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From: nevai@ops.mps.ohio-state.edu (Paul Nevai) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: WriteNow in black 3.1 Date: 30 Jun 1993 21:45:26 GMT Organization: Department of Mathematics, The Ohio State University Message-ID: <20t1hm$ieu@mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu> References: <20qm4v$n55@mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu> <1993Jun30.172422.17208@uriela.in-berlin.de> :> I noticed that WriteNow is missing in 3.1. Can I use the one from 3.0 (or :> earlier)? Will it work? Take care...Paul :> :There is no WriteNow in 3.0! :-( :Only in 2.0 (2.1) was WriteNow bundled. Let me rephrase the question and a simple YES or NO answer will suffice: will an earlier (whatever) version of a NeXT WriteNow work in a black 3.1? Thanks. Paul
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Good News: Mathematica for NS/FIP Date: 30 Jun 1993 22:30:04 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Distribution: world Message-ID: <20t45c$1i3@agate.berkeley.edu> References: <C9FwrL.3ro@ra.nrl.navy.mil> In article <C9FwrL.3ro@ra.nrl.navy.mil> yiannis@prologos.nrl.navy.mil (John Michopoulos) writes: > ... received a letter from WRI indicating the Mma will be available for >NEXTSTEP/Intel "later this year". The suggested list price for this version >will be $1245.00 for commercial versions and $995.00 for academic versions. Is the academic version crippled in some way? Or is it the same as commercial version but just discounted? -- Izumi Ohzawa [ $@Bg_78^=;(J ] USMail: University of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720 Telephone: (510) 642-6440 Fax: (510) 642-3323 Internet: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (NeXTMail OK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NXPGP1.0.1 Message-ID: <1993Jun30.171936.69601@cc.usu.edu> From: hcole@tumbleweed.idec.sdl.usu.edu (Howard R. Cole) Date: 30 Jun 93 17:19:31 MDT Distribution: usa Has anyone successfully used NXPGP? I've tried, but every time I attempt an encrypt, I get an error panel saying: pgp: illegal option -- z Sure enough, when I looked at the source code, it really looks like it's trying to send pgp a -z argument. What's the deal here? Oh, I'm using pgp version 2.1 Thanks. Howard Cole
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NXPGP1.0.1 Message-ID: <1993Jun30.174255.69602@cc.usu.edu> From: hcole@tumbleweed.idec.sdl.usu.edu (Howard R. Cole) Date: 30 Jun 93 17:42:53 MDT References: <1993Jun30.171936.69601@cc.usu.edu> Distribution: usa In article <1993Jun30.171936.69601@cc.usu.edu> writes: > > Has anyone successfully used NXPGP? I've tried, Never mind. Somehow, I managed to use the wrong #defines when I built pgp. Sorry. Howard Cole
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: andylee@oahu.cs.ucla.edu (Andrew A. Lee) Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP(3.0->3.1 black upgrade) I'm confused. Message-ID: <1993Jun30.231708.24967@cs.ucla.edu> Sender: usenet@cs.ucla.edu (Mr Usenet) Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department References: <REUVEN.93Jun29211738@alfredo.mit.edu> <1993Jun30.023348.27593@leland.Stanford.EDU> <1993Jun30.064451.1835@cs.ucla.edu> <REUVEN.93Jun30081428@al-burro.mit.edu> Date: Wed, 30 Jun 93 23:17:08 GMT reuven@athena.mit.edu (Reuven M. Lerner) writes: > >>>>>> On Wed, 30 Jun 93 06:44:51 GMT, andylee@oahu.cs.ucla.edu (Andrew >>>>>> A. Lee) said: > > Andy> I received two developer boxes Monday, but I ordered user + > Andy> developer upgrades. Someone goofed royally at NeXT. Also, > Andy> they didn't tell me about any backorder when I called them to > Andy> straight out this mistake. How long do we have to wait for > Andy> the user CD? >I didn't hear about any backorder either, but I wouldn't be surprised >if the goof-up were related to a shortage of user boxes. > >The woman at NeXT told me that the user package would be sent to me by >Airborne in the next few days, but she didn't give me an exact date. >It sounded like I would receive the user package soon, though, perhaps >before the Airborne guy comes to collect my second developer box. > Good news! I received my user box this morning via AirBorne Express. Now that's service! :-) Andy -- # Andy A. Lee # UCLA MS/PhD Graduate Student, AI Neural Networks # # andylee@cs.ucla.edu # Down-to-Earth Idealist & Independent NeXT Developer # # (310)824-7131 # "If you don't watch your figure, who will?" - TV Ad. # # (714)651-0763 # "Trust is earned, not given away." - Star Trek: TNG #
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: verket@venice.sedd.trw.com (Paul Verket) Subject: Serial speeds in 3.1 Message-ID: <1993Jul1.045037.17748@venice.sedd.trw.com> Sender: news@venice.sedd.trw.com (USENET News) Organization: TRW Systems Engineering & Development Division, Carson, CA Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1993 04:50:37 GMT ttydev.h has some interesting definitions under 3.1: /* * EXTA is 19200 baud * EXTB is 38400 baud * * NOTE: Not all hardware can effectively * support these higher baud rates. Beware. */ #define EXTA 14 #define EXTB 15 #define B14400 16 #define B28800 17 #define B43200 18 #define B57600 19 Has anyone tried driving their ports at the higher speeds like 57.6? Paul Verket (NeXTmail ok
From: steve@math.tamu.edu (Steve Johnson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: FAX software for USR sportster 14.4? Date: 1 Jul 1993 05:11:16 GMT Organization: Dept of Mathematics, Texas A&M University Distribution: world Message-ID: <20trlk$jo0@tamsun.tamu.edu> Keywords: fax modem sportster Pardon my ignorance, and this should probably be a FAQ, but does anyone know of the existence of FAX software that is compatible with the US Robotics Sportster 14.4k bps faxmodem? The price on these things is quite attractive. BTW, I'm running NS 2.1. - Steve ///////////////////////////////////////\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ Steve Johnson E-mail: Steve.Johnson@math.tamu.edu Unix Systems Manager Phone: (409) 845-0906 Dept of Mathematics FAX: (409) 845-6028 Texas A&M University College Station, TX 77843-3368 \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\////////////////////////////////////////
From: kucerarj@kucerarj.test.rose-hulman.edu (Ryan J Kucera) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP(3.0->3.1 black upgrade) I'm confused. Date: 1 Jul 1993 06:36:16 GMT Organization: News Service at Rose-Hulman Message-ID: <20u0l0INNlca@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu> References: <1993Jun30.064451.1835@cs.ucla.edu> I called Tuesday and they told me everything would be shipped Thursday. I've only had to wait over a month!. Ryan Kucera
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dgursky@andi.org (David M. Gursky) Subject: Improv Message-ID: <C9G4un.EA2@nextsrv1.andi.org> Sender: usenet@nextsrv1.andi.org (usenet) Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1993 18:03:59 GMT I had to reload our copy of Presentation Builder (the portion of Lotus Improv that does the graphs and so forth) from the distribution media, but it looks like age has somehow caught up with the disk, and one of the blocks has gone bad on me. I managed to install PB once, but I have yet to load it a second time. The copy I've loaded seems to work, and the log said it installed OK, but log also said pbqref.hlp had problems. I'd like to get some independent verification of these files. Would someone running Release 1.0 v108x0, dated 23 Jan 91, of Improv e-mail me the sum and sizes of their copies of the files PresentationBuilder/PresentationBuilder.app and PresentationBuilder/pbqref.hlp? Thanks! --------------------------------------------------------------------- David M. Gursky NeXTMail accepted Synex, Inc. e-mail: dgursky@nextsrv1.andi.org 5950 Symphony Woods Road voice: ............ (301) 621-5732 Columbia, MD 21044 fax: .............. (301) 621-6005
From: mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Alex) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: .compressed files vanishing from Workspace... Message-ID: <88225@ut-emx.uucp> Date: 1 Jul 93 06:12:15 GMT Sender: news@ut-emx.uucp Organization: Klatu Verata Necktie Whenever I try to decompres a .compressed file, using either the contents inspector or the workspace file menu, it whirrs and clicks for a moment, I see the greyed name of the uncompressed file... and then the compressed file *and* the uncompressed file vanish. I did this with the "AppsoftSolution.pkg.compressed" file from cs.orst.edu and both input and output vanish and my HD is credited the 4.58MB which the compressed file was using. I looked in /tmp, I looked for hidden files... I searched the drive with finder... gone. Clues? I am using the default tool for decompression (compression.bundle) under NS 3.0 on a NeXTCube 16/340. I just reinstalled 3.0 yesterday. Thank you for your suggestions. I will post the answer (if it appears). ---------------------------------- Alex Currier HotLine Technical Support Texas Union MicroCenter, UT Austin ----------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software From: rngu@mipos2.intel.com (Robert Ngu) Subject: COPY FILES TO DOS FLOPPY Message-ID: <C9GI5u.Bn@inews.intel.com> Sender: news@inews.intel.com (USENET News System) Organization: Intel Corporation, Santa Clara, CA USA Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1993 22:51:29 GMT Hi, I am trying to copy a file generated by GRAB.APP to a DOS floppy. I have renamed the file to fit DOS 8.3 name format and the floppy is initialized to have DOS format. The copy operation seems to work fine. In fact, in NextStep terminal session, the correct size was shown for the file copied. But when I use the "dir" command in DOS, it shows a file of 0 bytes with the right name and all but it is empty. Does anyone else out there have the same problem. This is on an Intel-based machine. Thanks, Bob Ngu
From: scheurer@lithnext.epfl.ch (Marco Scheurer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mathematica/mathremote question (summary) Date: 1 Jul 1993 09:15:58 GMT Organization: Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne Message-ID: <20ua0e$9qe@disuns2.epfl.ch> References: <20p3sj$5li@disuns2.epfl.ch> In article <20p3sj$5li@disuns2.epfl.ch> scheurer@lithnext.epfl.ch (Marco Scheurer) (me) writes: > Hi, > > Our only NeXT station with a Mathematica license died, and is waiting to be > repaired. So we are know trying to use Mathematica's NeXT frontend with the > kernel (mathremote) running on a Sun. It works, but graphics can't be rendered. > > The PostScript code returned can't be interpreted. It is full of undefined > commands: abbreviations like 'g' for setgray, 'm' for moveto, 'P' for gsave, > and so on. > > Do anyone knows how to solve this problem, without manually editing every > graphic's PS code? Thanks. Thanks to all those responded. The solution is to use the same version of Mathematica for the front end and the kernel. I was using a 2.0 front end on NeXT, with a 2.1 kernel on Sun. I'm a little surprised that such an incompability had been created between 2.0 and 2.1... (Another solution was to take the EPROM on the NeXT station with a licensed Mma copy, but that station is gone, and I'm not a hardware guy anyway. I could hardly tell the difference between an EPROM and a disk drive.) Thanks. --- Marco Scheurer scheurer@lithnext.epfl.ch (NeXTMail) Laboratoire d'Informatique Theorique Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne IN-Ecublens CH-1015 Lausanne (Switzerland) (+41) 21 693-2589
From: Robert_Claeson@sweden.dg.com (Robert Claeson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Connectivity to IBM AS/400? Date: 1 Jul 1993 09:07:40 GMT Organization: Data General AB, Stockholm, Sweden Distribution: world Message-ID: <20u9gs$q33@dgswe.sweden.dg.com> I need to connect to a NeXTSTEP system to an AS/400, so I guess I'll need an IBM 5250 terminal emulator. Is there one available from someone/somewhere? I still haven't received my NeXTSTEP software and hardware catlogue, thus the need to query the net. P.S. This posting should only go out in one copy, not nine, and in plain text format, not RTF. Promise. Believe me ;-) -- Robert Claeson, Data General AB, Sweden E-mail: Robert.Claeson@sweden.dg.com X.400: G=robert; S=claeson; P=data general; A=400net; C=se NeXTmail is accepted and in fact encouraged.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: hschulz@rzdspc14.informatik.uni-hamburg.de (Heiko Schulz) Subject: Re: .z files versus .Z files Message-ID: <hschulz.741523145@rzdspc14> Sender: news@informatik.uni-hamburg.de (Mr. News) Organization: University of Hamburg, Germany References: <20se8vINNhvb@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu> Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1993 10:39:05 GMT The .z files were compressed with GNU's gzip. The latest Version - as I know - is gzip-1.2.3, I found it on ftp.informatik.uni-hamburg.de in the pub/gnu dir, build with no hassle. Heiko Schulz EMail> hschulz@informatik.uni-hamburg.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: yiannis@prologos.nrl.navy.mil (John Michopoulos) Subject: Re: Good News: Mathematica for NS/FIP Message-ID: <C9HF7B.Mop@ra.nrl.navy.mil> Sender: usenet@ra.nrl.navy.mil Organization: Naval Research Lab, Washington, DC References: <20t45c$1i3@agate.berkeley.edu> Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1993 10:45:11 GMT In article <20t45c$1i3@agate.berkeley.edu> izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa) writes: > In article <C9FwrL.3ro@ra.nrl.navy.mil> yiannis@prologos.nrl.navy.mil (John Michopoulos) writes: > > > ... received a letter from WRI indicating the Mma will be available for > >NEXTSTEP/Intel "later this year". The suggested list price for this version > >will be $1245.00 for commercial versions and $995.00 for academic versions. > > Is the academic version crippled in some way? > Or is it the same as commercial version but just discounted? > > > -- > Izumi Ohzawa [ $@Bg_78^=;(J ] > USMail: University of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720 > Telephone: (510) 642-6440 Fax: (510) 642-3323 > Internet: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (NeXTMail OK) The academic version is NOT crippled by any means according to the literature they sent. Just discounted. --john m. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |Dr.John Michopoulos (yanni)| Tel: (202) 767-2165 or -2189 | | Research Scientist | Fax: (202) 767-9181 | | Naval Research Laboratory | e-mail: yiannis@prologos.nrl.navy.mil | | Code 6380 | michopoulos@ccf3.nrl.navy.mil | | 4555 Overlook Avenue, S.W.| michopoulos@anvil.nrl.navy.mil | | Washington DC 20375-5000 | send NeXTmail to prologos.nrl.navy.mil | ------------------------------------------------------------------------ | A glimpse of a dream: Let's build rational amplifiers to move facts | | swiftly and massively so instead of crafstmen we become artists of | | research and discovery in both the physical and the conceptual worlds.| | Dreams are facts in the conceptual world anyway. | ------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Darwish Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: WriteNow in black 3.1 Date: 1 Jul 1993 13:04:54 GMT Organization: HCF - Johns Hopkins University, Balitmore, Maryland, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <20undmINNa05@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> References: <20t1hm$ieu@mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu> In article <20t1hm$ieu@mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu> nevai@ops.mps.ohio-state.edu (Paul Nevai) writes: > Let me rephrase the question and a simple YES or NO answer will suffice: > will an earlier (whatever) version of a NeXT WriteNow work in a black 3.1? > > Thanks. Paul -- The answer is yes. I am running 3.1 on a 040Cube with my copy of WriteNow that came with 2.0. It works fine. Miladus Edenessi Barbelo|Derdeka|Sakla Abrasax|Sablo|Gamaliel|Micheu|Michar|Mnesinous zaina=silah=panoplia=armatura
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy From: marwood@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Marwood) Subject: MusicKit vs. MIDI Message-ID: <MARWOOD.93Jun30085134@fsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software Sender: news@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (News Manager) Organization: University of Calgary Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1993 15:51:34 GMT About 3 weeks back I posted an article asking if the NeXT MusicKit was capable of generating realistic instruments with precise timing and how well the MusicKit measured up to a MIDI box. Thanks to Jim Beauchamp <beaucham@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu> and David Jaffe <david@jaffe.com> for their responses. Also, thanks to Len Manzara, our local NeXT music expert, for his help. There were no conflicting reports; all the answers more or less supported each other. The solution to producing realistic music is _not_ to record it and play it back. It's too troublesome and difficult and can result in funny problems, such as waves getting cut in half and whatnot. Realistic music is, however, very possible. I'm sure all of you have heard demo score files, and Ensemble seems to be the definitive place to play with creating instruments. The music can be generated to very precise amounts of time, restricted by the sampling rate and what David Jaffe calls "envelope break-points times." He estimates 0.0003 second response time, more than enough for my purposes. How did the MusicKit measure up to MIDI. Everyone I talked to claims the MusicKit will give equal if not better control of the sound parameters than MIDI will as well as more flexibility. The MusicKit's one failing point was that there was not a well-made well-packaged set of realistic sample instruments. Following suggestions and the MusicKit manual, the best I could find were some sample score files from which I gleaned the following instrument parameters: clarinet, cello, bell, wind, flute, drum, bass, kalimba, conga, and gong. Unfortunately, to my (admittedly untrained) ear, many did not sound much like the instrument they were named after. This was an important requirement that MIDI was able to meet, and certainly not one I expected the MusicKit to fail. Including good sample instruments in the MusicKit seemed like an obvious thing to do. So, for those of you who are willing to go to great lengths for great music, it seems the MusicKit beats out all but the high-end MIDI boxes. For those of you looking to create simple, but realistic music, the MIDI box seems to provide what you need more easily. Thanks once again for all your help. - David Marwood - marwood@cpsc.ucalgary.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mross@antigone.com Subject: Utility to combine saved PostScript output? Message-ID: <1993Jul1.123356.3904@antigone.com> Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1993 12:33:56 GMT [ Article crossposted from comp.sys.next.sysadmin ] [ Author was mross@antigone.com ] [ Posted on Thu, 1 Jul 1993 07:20:02 GMT ] I need to combine several PostScript files generated with the Print Save... command so that I can use Preview to fax all the pages together (in one call) with one Print Fax command. I have successfully combined 2 PostScript files manually (and hacked the page numbers and headers) but this is convoluted and probably won't work if the headers and fonts are very different. Is there a utility to do this? If not, where can I find out about what NeXT does to the PostScript, and more specifically, multi-page PostScript documents... And what does (atend) mean? Thanks, Michael -- Michael Ross Antigone Press, San Francisco, California e-mail: mross@antigone.com FAX: +1 415 431 3650 -- Michael Ross Antigone Press, San Francisco, California e-mail: mross@antigone.com FAX: +1 415 431 3650
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: peer@ccrma.stanford.edu (Peer Landa) Subject: Re: MusicKit vs. MIDI Message-ID: <1993Jul1.143208.11456@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: DSO, Stanford University References: <MARWOOD.93Jun30085134@fsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> Date: Thu, 1 Jul 93 14:32:08 GMT David Marwood writes: [...] Realistic music is, however, very possible. Is there any unrealistic music around..? -- peer
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: iraf@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Ira Frosch) Subject: Re: Connectivity to IBM AS/400? Message-ID: <1993Jul01.141108.8320@rchland.ibm.com> Sender: icf@oliverwjones.rchland.ibm.com (Ira Frosch) Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1993 14:11:08 GMT Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM References: <20u9gs$q33@dgswe.sweden.dg.com> Organization: IBM Rochester Try Connexxtions (They have an emulator called 5250Vision), or just use telnet on the Ethernet. If you don't want to use TCP/IP, you need to buy some other package to do that IBM SNA thing. The 5250Vision guys will be able to tell you. -- Ira gypsy!iroo@csn.org (NeXTMAIL? Sure!) iraf@vnet.ibm.com (Sorry, No NeXTMAIL here :-)
From: hendryjl@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Jim Hendry) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Something IMPORTANT about you people... Date: 1 Jul 1993 15:30:15 GMT Organization: News Service at Rose-Hulman Message-ID: <20uvu7INNnon@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu> The readers of this newsgroup should be proud... Yesterday I posted an inquiry concerning .z and .Z files. I recieved over 15 responses. I consider that to show that you people have something to be proud of. Most newsgroups would simply flame someone with any question, but the helpfulness of those who took the time to mail a message was great. Everyone told be the answer, some gave me the FTP site to find the software, some even offered to NeXTmail it to me. This kind of behavior is what makes this newsgroup a pleasure to subscribe to. Sincerely, Jim Hendry Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology P.S. Special thanks to all who responded to my messsage.
From: joggl@neuro.tuwien.ac.at (Joachim Kainz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Emacs-19.15 Date: 28 Jun 1993 09:33:53 GMT Organization: Technical University Vienna, Austria Message-ID: <20mdu1$hro@email.tuwien.ac.at> Keywords: Emacs It seems there are people that are able to compile emacs-19 on a next without problems while others encounter an installation error when temacs tries to dump the initial data segment. Could somebody that was able to build the emacs provide the binaries on some anonymous-ftp host? Greetings from Vienna! Joachim. -- Joachim F. Kainz | Phone: ++43-1-58801-4132 VCNN, TU Wien | Fax: ++43-1-504-1580
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: gbol@nos40nm.shell.com (Gregory B. Lampshire) Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP(3.0->3.1 black upgrade) I'm confused. In-Reply-To: andylee@oahu.cs.ucla.edu's message of Wed, 30 Jun 93 06:44:51 GMT Message-ID: <GBOL.93Jul1081246@nos40nm.shell.com> Sender: usenet@shellgate.shell.com (USENET News System) Organization: Shell Offshore, Inc References: <REUVEN.93Jun29211738@alfredo.mit.edu> <1993Jun30.023348.27593@leland.Stanford.EDU> <1993Jun30.064451.1835@cs.ucla.edu> Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1993 13:12:46 GMT Same here! I received two developer boxes Monday, but I ordered user + developer upgrades. Someone goofed royally at NeXT. Also, they didn't tell me about any backorder when I called them to straight out this mistake. How long do we have to wait for the user CD? I encountered the same problem but it was resolved within three days (I got my user cd within three days of notifying them of a problem). They had someone come pickup the extra developer CD. They were very polite and moved swiftly to correct the problem. gregory gbol@rglnext.geol.vt.edu gbol@shell.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bstone@acs.ucalgary.ca (Blake Stone) Subject: Re: MusicKit vs. MIDI Message-ID: <Jul1.173801.22597@acs.ucalgary.ca> Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1993 17:38:01 GMT References: <MARWOOD.93Jun30085134@fsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta > About 3 weeks back I posted an article asking if the NeXT > MusicKit was capable of generating realistic instruments with > precise timing and how well the MusicKit measured up to a MIDI > box. > > ... There were no conflicting reports; all the answers more or > less supported each other. Which is pretty much as I'd expect. > The solution to producing realistic music is _not_ to record it > and play it back. It's too troublesome and difficult and can > result in funny problems, such as waves getting cut in half and > whatnot. Unfortunately that's NOT much the way I'd have expected it. I don't know about THEIR machines, but MINE seems to be quite happy playing back multi-minute 16bit stereo 44.1kHz samples! > [ MusicKit ravings deleted ] > > ow did the MusicKit measure up to MIDI. Everyone I talked to > claims the MusicKit will give equal if not better control of > the sound parameters than MIDI will as well as more flexibility. > The MusicKit's one failing point was that there was not a > well-made well-packaged set of realistic sample instruments. The failing isn't just bad luck. The MusicKit is running on a single DSP executing about 12.5 million instructions per second. You have nowhere NEAR the processing power you need there to resynthesize decent instruments in real time. > Including good sample instruments in the MusicKit seemed like > an obvious thing to do. Unfortunately, the architecture gives you next to no room for true samples (expanded to the maximum you STILL only get about 576k of RAM accessable directly to the DSP, DMA to main memory being way too slow for anything but utterly predictable linear playback). So you're stuck with synthesis. See above. > So, for those of you who are willing to go to great lengths for > great music, it seems the MusicKit beats out all but the > high-end MIDI boxes. For those of you looking to create > simple, but realistic music, the MIDI box seems to provide what > you need more easily. Excuse me, but I beg to differ. For significantly less than $1000 you can buy commercial MIDI boxes that offer 4 - 8MB of ROM samples and DSP power rivaling the NeXT. I have a keyboard downstairs (the Kurzweil K2000) that I paid less than $3000 for that: A) At the best estimates of DSP programmers I've talked to must be pulling about 200 million instructions / second to pull off what it does. and B) Can use up to 24MB of ROM and up to 64MB of RAM directly accessable to the DSP as a sample library. ---- Hmmmm... for non-realtime work, the NeXT is a wonderful tool, but it's never going to replace any MIDI gear in my setup! -- Blake W. Stone | DKW Systems Corporation Chief Technical Officer | A N[EXTSTEP,eXT[STEP,step,Step]] VAR bstone@acs.ucalgary.ca | | ... couldn't have been ME
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: claire@cubx.com (Claire Normand) Subject: Demo version of Cub'X-Window v4.0 for black hardware Message-ID: <1993Jun30.170742.29435@cubx.com> Sender: news@cubx.com Organization: Cub'x Systemes - Rueil Malmaison, France. Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1993 17:07:42 GMT The demo version of Cub'X-Window v4.0 for NeXT computers in archive server cs.orst.edu has been moved from directory /pub/next/submissions to /pub/next/XNeXT. The NSFIP demo version will soon follow. Claire Normand Cub'x Systemes Immeuble Sedgwick 7, Rue E. & A. Peugeot 92563 Rueil Malmaison Cedex - France Tel : (+33) (1) 47 08 74 40 Fax : (+33) (1) 47 08 74 41 e-mail : claire@cubx.com (NeXT mail OK)
From: ben@manfred.berkeley.edu (Ben Haze Bonham) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Sonogram/Hiroshi Momose ??? Date: 1 Jul 1993 18:45:23 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Message-ID: <20vbc3$i7d@agate.berkeley.edu> Hi folks - I'd like to find an updated version of Sonogram.app, which appears on the archive sites. If you have a more recent version than 0.90, or you are Hiroshi Momose (the author), can you send me a note? Thanks, -Ben
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: hussain@artsci.wustl.edu (G. H. Chinoy) Subject: Re: newsgrazer Message-ID: <1993Jul1.183247.3761@wuecl.wustl.edu> Sender: usenet@wuecl.wustl.edu (News Administrator) Organization: Washington University, School of Engineering, St. Louis MO References: <1993Jun29.180555.21@vax.nwc.com> Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1993 18:32:47 GMT In article <1993Jun29.180555.21@vax.nwc.com> writes: > > > When I try to let some other users run NewsGrazer, they keep getting prompted > for the connection info. Where's this stuff stored, and why cant' they get at > it? I don't mind running the config for each of them, but it won't even keep > that info. They get prompted EVERY time they try to start it. > > Thanks. > > ================================================================= > Eric Hall ehall@nwc.com > Director, East Coast Labs vox: 516-562-5288 > Network Computing Magazine fax: 516-562-7293 -- We've just gotten a newsfeed & I don't know how to make the newsgrazer app check our local newsserver? I guess it's a similar problem to that of Mr. Hall's. Anyone? Anyone? ________________________________ G. H. Chinoy hussain@artsci.wustl.edu
From: h0l847a@tamsun.tamu.edu (Hoseong La) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: WANTED: C-plot or TopDraw Date: 1 Jul 1993 14:50:31 -0500 Organization: tamu Distribution: world Message-ID: <20vf67$c70@tamsun.tamu.edu> Hi, there! Is there anything like C-plot or TopDraw for NeXT? It would be nice if there is, wouldn't it? Cheers, hs
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: root@azetsys.uucp (Operator) Subject: 3.1 user & dev. notes Message-ID: <1993Jul1.190236.370@azetsys.uucp> Organization: CleverLever Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1993 19:02:36 GMT Hi, Finaly received today the 3.1 dev. upgrade, this enabled me to upgrade the system, nothing unusual happened, the user installation ask if I want to retain the modified system files, it presents the list, and one has an option to retain it, or have it replaced. The Dev. system installs in three parts, Developer/Tools.pkg, Developer/Libs.pkg, and Developer/Doc.pkg One has an option to install either-or both Intel/mk68 components. The Sound.app included with the Development demos did not work, a window came up, with the info: this app is broken, so did the next best thing, compiled the source for Sound.App, and this new one works. I have no complaints with NeXT about this upgrade except that they failed to include my name as they were writing my address, this happened both with the user, and developer parts, even after calling them after the first time, when I was assured that my name is indeed included in my address of record. I guess they are pretty busy these days. (no flame intended). Geza..
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: ploeger@aplki.toppoint.de (Andreas Ploeger) Subject: Newer Opener than 3.0 (with .gz support)? Message-ID: <1993Jul1.170024.937@aplki.toppoint.de> Sender: ploeger@aplki.toppoint.de (Andreas Ploeger) Organization: Andreas Ploeger Date: Thu, 1 Jul 93 17:00:24 GMT Hi, Is there a newer Opener Version than 3.0? Does it support .gz Files? Is it adapted for ProjectBuilder? Thanks, Andreas -------------------------------------------------------------------- Andreas Ploeger E-Mail: ploeger@tpki.toppoint.de Kiel University Phone: (49) 431 597 1757 Clinic for Pediatric Cardiology FAX: (49) 431 597 1828 Schwanenweg 20, 2300 Kiel 1, Germany *** NeXT Mail welcome *** -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Andreas Ploeger E-Mail: ploeger@tpki.toppoint.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: fms@netcom.com (RAYCHEM) Subject: lost newsfeed Message-ID: <fmsC9I7Mp.L63@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1993 20:59:12 GMT I had been receiving and viewing newsfeeds with newsgrazer just fine. I added a few groups to my providers sys file and went to add them to my active file, a nd now I apparently am sent the feed but either my machine is rejecting everythi ng or newsgrazer can't find the articles. I haven't had any new news in almost a week. Any ideas? Fred Schenkelberg fms@chemelex.com (NeXTMail encouraged)
From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: 3.1 user & dev. notes Message-ID: <1993Jul1.212509.25301@leland.Stanford.EDU> Date: 1 Jul 93 21:25:09 GMT References: <1993Jul1.190236.370@azetsys.uucp> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: DSO, Stanford University Operator writes > I have no complaints with NeXT about this upgrade > except that they failed to include my name as they were writing > my address, this happened both with the user, and developer parts, > even after calling them after the first time, when I was assured > that my name is indeed included in my address of record. I guess > they are pretty busy these days. (no flame intended). My name was left off of my mailing label too. Sounds like somebody's mission-critical custom app could use a little finetuning. I hope that's not why I haven't received my User upgrade yet :-( -- - Stefano Pagiola Food Research Institute, Stanford University spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged) spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bff@teal.csn.org (Brendan Forsyth) Subject: GatorFTP Problem Message-ID: <C9IBIp.2uM@csn.org> Sender: news@csn.org (The Daily Planet) Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc. Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1993 22:23:12 GMT I have just gotten a SLIP connection into the Internet and am having difficulty getting GatorFTP+ to change directories on the remote site. I can connect without difficulty and it works with machines on my local net. Anyone have any suggestions about how to fix this? Thanks Brendan
From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: WriteNow in black 3.1 Message-ID: <68931@mimsy.umd.edu> Date: 1 Jul 93 21:51:34 GMT References: <20qm4v$n55@mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu> <1993Jun30.172422.17208@uriela.in-berlin.de> <20t1hm$ieu@mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu> Sender: news@mimsy.umd.edu Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742 In article <20t1hm$ieu@mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu> pali+@osu.edu writes: > Let me rephrase the question and a simple YES or NO answer will suffice: > will an earlier (whatever) version of a NeXT WriteNow work in a black 3.1? yes -- Alex Blakemore alex@cs.umd.edu NeXT mail accepted -------------------------------------------------------------- "Without an engaged and motivated human being at the keyboard, the computer is just another dumb box." William Raspberry
From: adams@ccr-p.ida.org (Jeffrey P. Adams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Modifying headers in Mail.app Date: 1 Jul 1993 18:49:01 -0400 Organization: Center for Communications Research - Princeton Distribution: world Message-ID: <20vpkt$n6v@runner.ccr-p.ida.org> I want Mail.app to add a header line every time I send a message. Something like: From: adams@pinochle To: mom@home Subject: How are things? *> Project: Verifying Fermat's Last Theorem I've wrestled with the on-line documentation, but am getting nowhere. Isn't there a template file or something I can muck around with to add the extra header line? Any suggestions welcome. Jeff -- Jeff ADAMS > When I die, I want to go quietly adams@bright.uoregon.edu > In my sleep, like my grandfather. > Not screaming, > Like the passengers in his car.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: scott@geom.umn.edu (Scott S. Bertilson) Subject: Re: MIDI interfaces for the NeXT Message-ID: <C9IIDA.8I9@news.cis.umn.edu> Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: Geometry Center, University of Minnesota References: <MARWOOD.93Jun30085134@fsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1993 00:49:53 GMT We looked last summer for manufacturers that would make the claim that their box would work well on the NeXT, but didn't do very well in terms of actual results. Many thought the Studio 3 would work well, and it did on *some* of our mono NextStations, but not on more than about 1/2 of them (we didn't go systematically through all 30 machines, but only about 2 out of 4 worked). Can anyone recommend a source for an inexpensive MIDI interface that works *well* on the NeXT? Thanks, Scott --
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: sherry@relief.com (Sherry Feiler) Subject: Re: Electronic AppWrapper Message-ID: <1993Jul1.211550.4051@relief.com> Sender: sherry@relief.com Organization: relief consulting References: <1993Jun28.044108.4152@nimno.wpa.com> Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1993 21:15:50 GMT In article <1993Jun28.044108.4152@nimno.wpa.com> john@wpa.com (John Bartley) writes: > Has the second EAW ever been issued? I eventually got the first one, but > haven't heard anything since. I thought this was supposed to be a > multiple-times-per-year subscription. What's the deal? I just talked to Peggy Thompson of Paget Press on Monday night at the local user group meeting and apparently they had some timing problems with the 2nd EAW (it was running REALLY slow) and have now corrected them. They should be getting it out this weekend, she hopes. They are already working on the 3rd, and the deadline for submissions is 7-15-93, I believe.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bcongdon@lotatg.lotus.com (Bob Congdon) Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP(3.0->3.1 black upgrade) I'm confused. Message-ID: <1993Jul1.183234.24898@lotus.com> Sender: news@lotus.com Organization: Lotus Development Corp. References: <1993Jun30.064451.1835@cs.ucla.edu> Date: Thu, 1 Jul 93 18:32:34 GMT In article <1993Jun30.064451.1835@cs.ucla.edu> andylee@oahu.cs.ucla.edu (Andrew A. Lee) writes: > spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) writes: > > > >Reuven M. Lerner writes > >>Stefano> Earlier, they had user upgrades but the developer upgrades > >>Stefano> were back-ordered. Now its the other way around. > >> > >> Heh... I received two developer boxes in the mail, one with an > > > >I was one of those other calls. That's how I know user is > >back-ordered. > > Same here! I received two developer boxes Monday, but I ordered user > + developer upgrades. Someone goofed royally at NeXT. Also, they > didn't tell me about any backorder when I called them to straight out > this mistake. How long do we have to wait for the user CD? Geez, I thought they just messed up my order. I got two copies of the skimpy 3.1 Developer upgrade on Monday as well. The guy at the 800 number seemed a little confused when I called, but at least he was friendly... But all is well now -- I received my 3.1 User upgrade today. Now when are they going to pick up the second 3.1 Developer upgrade that they sent me? --bob
From: statman@stat.ufl.edu (charles d. kincaid) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP(3.0->3.1 black upgrade) I'm confused. Date: 2 Jul 1993 03:16:46 GMT Organization: University of Florida Message-ID: <2109auINN14b@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu> References: <1993Jul1.183234.24898@lotus.com> In article <1993Jul1.183234.24898@lotus.com> bcongdon@lotatg.lotus.com (Bob Congdon) writes: > > But all is well now -- I received my 3.1 User upgrade today. Now when are they > going to pick up the second 3.1 Developer upgrade that they sent me? > > --bob Well, let's see. I think the law says that if you are sent something in the mail that you did not ask for (i.e. a second 3.1 Developer upgrade) then it is yours to keep. Congratulations! :-) :-) :-) -- Sincerely, charles d. kincaid -------------------------------------------------------------------- Dept. of Statistics 'Damn fine coffee...and hot, too!' Univ. of Florida Pres: G-ville NeXT Users Group NeXTMail preferred STOP BENDIN' THE SHAFTS!!!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: wfc@cl.cam.ac.uk (William Clocksin) Subject: Re: MusicKit vs. MIDI Message-ID: <1993Jul2.102625.3661@infodev.cam.ac.uk> Sender: news@infodev.cam.ac.uk (USENET news) Organization: U of Cambridge, England References: <MARWOOD.93Jun30085134@fsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1993 10:26:25 GMT marwood@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Marwood)'s posting was concerned mainly with realistic synthesis. There is one further consideration that needs to be taken into account: the number of voices that can be synthesised simultaneously. My music notation editor (soon to be released) can deal with hundreds of multiple voices, but the MusicKit is unable to synthesize more than about 10 or so, depending on circumstances. This is a problem even if you are not doing orchestral scores. Two simple examples: (a) piano duets when both performers play simultaneous chords with many noteheads; (b) music for broken consort, where the number of notes in chords played simultaneously by the 3 plucked instruments alone (lute, bandora, cittern) may sometimes exceed 16, on top of which there are the other instruments and choir (if any) to consider. Realistic synthesis is not as important here, when the need is for 'proof listening' of musical scores as they are input. At least with MIDI, the NeXT machine is concerned only with timing and channel selection, thereby leaving the synthesis task to other hardware such as one or more synthesizers. I like the MusicKit, but I wish the user had more control over the tradeoff between realistic synthesis and simultaneous voices. ---------------------------------------------------- W.F. Clocksin, Assistant Director of Research, Computer Laboratory, University of Cambridge Pembroke Street, Cambridge CB2 3QG, U.K. Internet: wfc@CL.cam.ac.uk (NeXTMail is acceptable) Tel UK: (0223) 334628. Tel (Int'l): +44 223-334628. Fax UK: (0223) 334678. Fax (Int'l): +44 223-334678.
From: sears@tree.egr.uh.edu (Paul S. Sears) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Intel Machines: Benchmarks? Comparisons? (Test results) Date: 2 Jul 1993 13:49:28 GMT Organization: University of Houston Message-ID: <211ed8$6am@menudo.uh.edu> References: <2119q7$pqb@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> In article <2119q7$pqb@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> zryx0376@awssg6.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel (Hiwi bei R.Rabenseifner)) writes: #In article <bbrown.93Jul272254@ganesha> bbrown@solana.com writes: #>Hi, #> I need an Intel box that runs NS/FIP. I will buy a new machine #> from one of the vendors which certifies their machines as #> NS/FIP-safe. But, I need information that allows me to #> compare and contrast the machines. So, I have some questions. #> #> Is there any standard windowing benchmark for NS/FIP? #Try NXBench, available via ano-ftp. # #> Does anyone have benchmark information for some of the #> Intel machines which support NS/FIP? # #NX Bench reports on my machine (DX/2 66 with ATI GUP VLB): # #Dhrystones: # ColorStation ca. 26000 # DX/2 ca. 62000 # #NX Factor (graphics performance): # Station 1.0 # ColorStation 0.6 # DX/2 ATI GUP VLB 0.6 # #JAWS or Wingine graphic adapters should smoke the ATI. # Our ATI Ultra Pro cards had and NXFactor of .81 and .82 respectively... Yeah they *should* but they don't in reality. The ATI Ultra Pro was the second fasted graphics card we tested. We conducted benchmark tests on the following systems (with the help of Wiltel of Houston): Gateway2000 4DX2-66V with ATI Ultra Pro VLB card (66Mhz) Compaq with QVision (66Mhz) Dell DGX with Jaws (50Mhz) Epson Progression with Wingine (50Mhz) Ecesys with Wingine (66Mhz) NeXTStation Mono (25Mhz) NeXTStation Color (25Mhz) The results are rather suprising. We used two benchmark programs: BenchPress 1.0 NXBench2.0 Our results are in a PostScript file and can be found at: uhoop.uh.edu:/pub/misc/BenchMarks.compressed or via gopher: gopher.uh.edu -> Engineering Gopher -> UHOOP Archive -> misc -> BenchMarks.compressed #/dev Markus Wenzel, University of Stuttgart #/usr/spool/mail wenzel@rus.uni-stuttgart.de #~/.ircrc/nick Marsu #/etc/motd NeXTSTEP for Intel - Come on and join! -- Paul S. Sears * sears@uh.edu (NeXT Mail OK) The University of Houston * suggestions@tree.egr.uh.edu (NeXT Engineering Computing Center * comments, complaints, questions) NeXT System Administration * DoD#1967 '83 NightHawk 650SC >>> SSI Diving Certification #755020059 <<< "Programming is like sex: One mistake and you support it a lifetime."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc From: rcs002@acad.drake.edu Subject: Re: Intel Machines: Benchmarks? Comparisons? (Test results) Message-ID: <1993Jul2.095510.1@acad.drake.edu> Sender: news@dunix.drake.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Drake University, Des Moines, Iowa, USA References: <2119q7$pqb@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> <211ed8$6am@menudo.uh.edu> Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1993 15:55:10 GMT In article <211ed8$6am@menudo.uh.edu>, sears@tree.egr.uh.edu (Paul S. Sears) writes: > In article <2119q7$pqb@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> > zryx0376@awssg6.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel (Hiwi bei > R.Rabenseifner)) writes: > #In article <bbrown.93Jul272254@ganesha> bbrown@solana.com writes: > #> > #> [munch] > #> > Our ATI Ultra Pro cards had and NXFactor of .81 and .82 respectively... > > Yeah they *should* but they don't in reality. The ATI Ultra Pro was the > second fasted graphics card we tested. We conducted benchmark tests on the > following systems (with the help of Wiltel of Houston): > > Gateway2000 4DX2-66V with ATI Ultra Pro VLB card (66Mhz) > Compaq with QVision (66Mhz) > Dell DGX with Jaws (50Mhz) > Epson Progression with Wingine (50Mhz) > Ecesys with Wingine (66Mhz) > NeXTStation Mono (25Mhz) > NeXTStation Color (25Mhz) > > The results are rather suprising. We used two benchmark programs: > > BenchPress 1.0 > NXBench2.0 > > Our results are in a PostScript file and can be found at: > > uhoop.uh.edu:/pub/misc/BenchMarks.compressed > > or via gopher: > > gopher.uh.edu -> Engineering Gopher -> UHOOP Archive -> misc -> > BenchMarks.compressed > Many of us who would like NS/I, but we don't currently have ability to display, or print a postscript file. If someone could take a few minutes and summarize the results, or even better type the document in, many of us would greatly appreciate it. Thanks > #/dev Markus Wenzel, University of Stuttgart > #/usr/spool/mail wenzel@rus.uni-stuttgart.de > #~/.ircrc/nick Marsu > #/etc/motd NeXTSTEP for Intel - Come on and join! > > -- > Paul S. Sears * sears@uh.edu (NeXT Mail OK) > The University of Houston * suggestions@tree.egr.uh.edu (NeXT > Engineering Computing Center * comments, complaints, questions) > NeXT System Administration * DoD#1967 '83 NightHawk 650SC > >>> SSI Diving Certification #755020059 <<< > "Programming is like sex: One mistake and you support it a lifetime." Robert C. Stiff rcs002@acad.drake.edu
From: ericw@its.COM (Eric Wespestad) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Utility to combine saved PostScript output? Date: 2 Jul 1993 11:34:07 -0400 Organization: The Ohio State University Sender: daemon@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Message-ID: <9307021441.AA06788@its.com> > I need to combine several PostScript files generated with > the Print Save... command so that I can use Preview to > fax all the pages together (in one call) with one Print > Fax command. > Is there a utility to do this? Yup, there is - and its incredibly cool! In addition to PostScript files it can "chain together" mixed files of type EPS, TIFF (even multi-page), FAX, RTF, RTFD, and ASCII. I fully recommend this application - it's a real bargain. PageChain v1.2.2 print + fax tool Pinnacle Research Inc. 4725 E. Sunrize Dr. #435 Tucson, AZ 85718 (602) 529-1135 (602) 299-9133 (FAX) pagechain@pri.com Regards, Eric Wespestad Information Technology Solutions, Inc. 400 W. Erie, Suite 301 Chicago, IL 60610 (312) 587-2000 (312) 587-2012 FAX eric_wespestad@its.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: vesely@next.heart.rri.uwo.ca (Ivan Vesely) Subject: Re: Mathematica/mathremote question (summary) Organization: University of Western Ontario Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1993 16:14:19 GMT Message-ID: <1993Jul2.161419.20972@julian.uwo.ca> References: <20ua0e$9qe@disuns2.epfl.ch> Sender: news@julian.uwo.ca (USENET News System) In article <20ua0e$9qe@disuns2.epfl.ch> scheurer@lithnext.epfl.ch (Marco Scheurer) writes: > In article <20p3sj$5li@disuns2.epfl.ch> scheurer@lithnext.epfl.ch (Marco > Scheurer) (me) writes: > > The PostScript code returned can't be interpreted. It is full of undefined > > commands: abbreviations like 'g' for setgray, 'm' for moveto, 'P' for gsave, > > and so on. > > Were you aware of the "PSfix" routine that comes with Mathematica that elables you to convert WRI non-standard postscipt to something more standard that can be displayed on the Next and printed? -- Ivan Vesely, Electrical Engineering and Medical Biophysics University of Western Ontario, vesely@next.heart.rri.uwo.ca
From: agm@doc.ic.ac.uk (Axel G Merk) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: graphics communications software Date: 2 Jul 1993 16:26:46 GMT Organization: Dept. of Computing, Imperial College, University of London, UK. Message-ID: <211nk6INNn0t@frigate.doc.ic.ac.uk> Hi there, I want to access a bulletin board whose output contains graphics at VGA resolution. Related to that I have two questions: * Is there a program on the NeXT that can communicate with such a program and produce the appropriate graphics output. * Would anyone know which communication programs on DOS/Windows machines have VGA sessions? Thanks, Axel p.s. please send email. I'll reply to 'me too' inquiries and/or post a summary of significant findings. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Axel Merk agm@doc.ic.ac.uk phone/fax +44-71-724 9089 -- -- 13 Archery Steps St. George's Fields Albion St London W2 2YF -- -- "One needs a certain amount of blindness to see perfection" -- ---------------------------------------------------- Christopher Nuzum ---
From: cedman@golem.ps.uci.edu (Carl Edman) Subject: Re: Modifying headers in Mail.app Message-ID: <CEDMAN.93Jul2084308@golem.uci.edu> In-reply-to: adams@ccr-p.ida.org's message of 1 Jul 1993 18:49:01 -0400 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software References: <20vpkt$n6v@runner.ccr-p.ida.org> Date: 2 Jul 93 15:43:19 GMT In article <20vpkt$n6v@runner.ccr-p.ida.org> adams@ccr-p.ida.org (Jeffrey P. Adams) writes: I want Mail.app to add a header line every time I send a message. Something like: From: adams@pinochle To: mom@home Subject: How are things? *> Project: Verifying Fermat's Last Theorem Oh no, you don't, that is what we've done here ! :-) Well, not exactly here but where here is when I'm not on vacation. I've wrestled with the on-line documentation, but am getting nowhere. Isn't there a template file or something I can muck around with to add the extra header line? As I explained a few days ago on this newsgroup, the answer to this question is in the FAQ. Unfortunately as was pointed out to me, the FAQ isn't any longer posted with sufficient regularity (and long enough expiry headers) to ensure that it is always available in every c.s.n.announce newsspool, as I for one think the FAQ should be. So the short of the answer to your question is to use the Custom Mailer expert option in Mail.app to have all your mail redirected to a little sh or perl script of your writing. This script then passes along its standard input (with your headers added) to the system MTA (/usr/lib/sendmail) which you invoke with the same arguments as the script. This is a very powerful mechanism which allows you to automaticlly perform all kinds of simple or complicated changes on your outgoing mail. Carl Edman
From: tyfung@uclink.berkeley.edu (Tin-Yau Fung) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Can't transfer license to SoftPC Date: 2 Jul 1993 18:30:41 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Distribution: world Message-ID: <211ush$djd@agate.berkeley.edu> Hi, Well, I'm stuck with 2.0 I posted earlier about possible transfer of license and called the support line. The answer is no ... Thanks for people who reply to me.
From: alec@carie.mcs.mu.edu (Alec Ellsworth) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Realtime FFT program for the 56001 DSP Date: 2 Jul 1993 18:35:57 GMT Organization: Marquette University - Department MSCS Distribution: world Message-ID: <211v6d$pvg@spool.mu.edu> Keywords: DSP, FFT Hello Nexters, I need to find a program or source for doing realtime FFT on the NeXT's DSP. Thanks in advance, Alec -- Alec Ellsworth Marquette University alec@carie.mcs.mu.edu (NeXTMail) School of Dentistry NeRD #3859 Milwaukee, WI 53233 "Blessed are those who engage in lively conversation with the helplessly mute--for they shall be called dentists."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: tommi@balou.stc.auc.dk Subject: HELP with Installer.app Message-ID: <1993Jul2.081728.11186@iesd.auc.dk> Keywords: Installer Help Sender: news@iesd.auc.dk (UseNet News) Organization: Mathematics and Computer Science, University of Aalborg Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1993 08:17:28 GMT Hi all, I have some strange problems with my Installer.app. Since a week or so it doesn't want to install or uninstall packages. It checks the contents then wants to start installation and then immediately after starting installation it says "Error while installing" and stops. Of course everytime I tried it as "root". Any suggestions? Thanks in advance, tommi ----------------------- Thomas Pfleiderer tommi@balou.stc.auc.dk NeXT-Mail preferred -----------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mzeller@gwdu03.gwdg.de (Meinrad Zeller) Subject: Re: .z files versus .Z files Message-ID: <1XZEBI0V@gwdu03.gwdg.de> Organization: GWDG, Goettingen References: <20se8vINNhvb@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu> Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1993 19:47:19 GMT Jim Hendry (hendryjl@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu) wrote: : I know this may sound naive, but Opener can't handle a '.z' file. : 'uncompress' wont either. What is this format and where can I get a : decompression program for it? Thanks in advance for help. Its the GNU compression format. To uncompress .z files, get gzip from any GNU ftp-server. And don't be confused if you see files with an .gz suffix very soon - its the new GNU compression suffix. They changed it from .z to .gz a couple of weeks ago. So be sure to get the newest version of gzip, which should handle both .z and .gz without renaming the files first. Actually I didn't test it, cause I'm still working w/ the older version, which refuses to uncompress .gz files :-( - so you first have to rename the file. Happy uncompressing Meinrad -- Meinrad Zeller Foehrenweg 1 D-3400 Goettingen Tel.: +49-551-300095
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: brill@sybase.com (Michael Brill) Subject: Re: newsgrazer Message-ID: <C9Jq7z.Bs5@sybase.com> Sender: usenet@sybase.com Organization: Sybase, Inc. References: <1993Jun29.180555.21@vax.nwc.com> <1993Jul1.183247.3761@wuecl.wustl.edu> Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1993 16:38:22 GMT Anyone know where I can find a copy of Newsgrazer for NS/Intel? Thanks, ...Michael
From: isbell@cats.ucsc.edu (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Sybase libraries - Sybase server incompatibities in 3.1 Date: 2 Jul 1993 20:58:05 GMT Organization: Cubic Solutions - NeXT software development and consulting Message-ID: <2127gtINNova@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> Keywords: Sybase, 3.1 Unfortunately, NeXT seems to have begun the process of dropping support for black hardware already (what happened to 1995 ?-( NeXT fixed a number of significant Sybase adaptor bugs in 3.1. However, for those of us running a Sybase server on black hardware, the new adaptor is incompatible because it is linked against v.4.6 of the Sybase DBLib library which won't run reliably against the old v.4.0 Sybase server running on black hardware. NeXT mentions this in the 3.1 release notes. This is unacceptable for those of us who are trying to deliver a product and need the bug fixes. Our customers will be running against a current Sybase server so will need the 3.1 adaptor with its later Sybase library, but we need the 3.1 adaptor linked against the 4.0 DBLib library so we don't all have to go buy an expensive HP server for our development testing (yes, we will eventually buy or lease one for final product testing, but we can't afford to have one at each of our development sites.) I haven't asked NeXT to provide this "mixed" adaptor and I really don't know whom to ask, so if enough of you are in the same boat, maybe we can get NeXT to help us. And apparently isql and who knows what other executables also are linked against the new DBLib. We've been seeing all sorts of wierdnesses since upgrading to 3.1 (we neglected to read the release notes until after the upgrade - OOPS :-) So I've just downgraded the Sybase client package back to 3.0 and hope I've gotten everything. -- Art Isbell Cubic Solutions NeXT Registered Developer #745 NEXTSTEP software development and consulting NeXTmail: isbell@cats.UCSC.EDU Voice: (408)335-1154 USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: (408)335-2515
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Scott Byer <byer@mv.us.adobe.com> Subject: Re: MusicKit vs. MIDI Message-ID: <1993Jul2.212050.23809@adobe.com> Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS) Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated References: <1993Jul2.102625.3661@infodev.cam.ac.uk> Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1993 21:20:50 GMT MIDI :: MusicKit RTF :: Bitmaps MIDI is a wonderful compression method, and gets around resource limitations quite well, though maybe not as elegantly as it could have. Of course, often the best thing is a synchronized combination of the two. -- Scott Byer NeXTMail: byer@mv.us.adobe.com Adobe Systems Incorporated These are *my* opinions, and 1585 Charleston Road, P.O. Box 7900 do not necessarily reflect Mountain View, CA 94039-7900 the opinions of my employer. ---------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Scott Byer <byer@mv.us.adobe.com> Subject: Re: MIDI interfaces for the NeXT Message-ID: <1993Jul2.211629.23645@adobe.com> Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS) Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated References: <C9IIDA.8I9@news.cis.umn.edu> Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1993 21:16:29 GMT Scott S. Bertilson writes > We looked last summer for manufacturers that would make the claim > that their box would work well on the NeXT, but didn't do very > well in terms of actual results. Many thought the Studio 3 would > work well, and it did on *some* of our mono NextStations, but not > on more than about 1/2 of them (we didn't go systematically through > all 30 machines, but only about 2 out of 4 worked). Can anyone > recommend a source for an inexpensive MIDI interface that works > *well* on the NeXT? Check into the MIDILink boxes availiable from PRI (info@pri.com). They're small, black, and don't need an external supply, and come with a serial cable for the NeXT. Plus they have nice blinking lights ;-). Disclaimer: I own two and have never had a problem with them. The # of inputs/outputs is small, but any serious musician is going to have a MIDI patch box anyway, right? -- Scott Byer NeXTMail: byer@mv.us.adobe.com Adobe Systems Incorporated These are *my* opinions, and 1585 Charleston Road, P.O. Box 7900 do not necessarily reflect Mountain View, CA 94039-7900 the opinions of my employer. ---------------------------------------------------------------------
From: isbell@cats.ucsc.edu (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP(3.0->3.1 black upgrade) I'm confused. Date: 2 Jul 1993 21:58:47 GMT Organization: Cubic Solutions - NeXT software development and consulting Message-ID: <212b2oINNq56@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> References: <1993Jun30.064451.1835@cs.ucla.edu> <1993Jul1.183234.24898@lotus.com> In article <1993Jul1.183234.24898@lotus.com> bcongdon@lotatg.lotus.com (Bob Congdon) writes: >But all is well now -- I received my 3.1 User upgrade today. Now when are they >going to pick up the second 3.1 Developer upgrade that they sent me? Send it to me!! I ordered the 3.1 upgrade in early May and received the User version about 3 weeks ago. When I called today, I was told that my Developer version had been sent from Buffalo to my home on the West Coast by UPS Ground a week ago :-( What kind of service is that? -- Art Isbell Cubic Solutions NeXT Registered Developer #745 NEXTSTEP software development and consulting NeXTmail: isbell@cats.UCSC.EDU Voice: (408)335-1154 USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: (408)335-2515
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: peter@madeline (Peter Eisch) Subject: Re: dwrite to autolaunch apps Message-ID: <C9K19H.6y9@news.cis.umn.edu> Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: University of Minnesota References: <1993Jul2.171528.9920@ncsu.edu> Distribution: usa Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1993 20:35:34 GMT or use TickleServices to have it administrate such... It does so painlessly. peter Bob Buchanan (buchanan@matagh.ncsu.edu) wrote: : A few days ago I asked about a Workspace drwite to autolaunch apps at : the time of Workspace startup. It seems there is sufficient interest : in the answer to warrant posting an answer: : dwrite Workspace LaunchPaths "path[;path]..." -- I felt his rocket science training was inadequate. peter@tahiti.umhc.umn.edu (Peter Eisch)
From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Utility to combine saved PostScript output? Message-ID: <68974@mimsy.umd.edu> Date: 3 Jul 93 04:06:22 GMT References: <1993Jul1.123356.3904@antigone.com> Sender: news@mimsy.umd.edu Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742 In article <1993Jul1.123356.3904@antigone.com> mross@antigone.com writes: > I need to combine several PostScript files generated with the Print Save... command > so that I can use Preview to fax all the pages together (in one call) > Is there a utility to do this? I think its called PageChain (or something similar) by Pinnacle Research They have placed demo programs on cs.orst.edu and sonata.cc.purdue.edu in the past, and there is probably one there now. Their WetPaint product is quite nice, so its possible this one is too :) -- Alex Blakemore alex@cs.umd.edu NeXT mail accepted -------------------------------------------------------------- "Without an engaged and motivated human being at the keyboard, the computer is just another dumb box." William Raspberry
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs From: chrisl@mindvox.phantom.com (Chris Lesher) Subject: NeXSTEP Intel and SERIAL PORT DRIVER == JOKE Message-ID: <LTo46B3w165w@mindvox.phantom.com> Sender: mindvox@mindvox.phantom.com (MindVox) Organization: [Phantom Access] / the MindVox system Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1993 07:18:32 GMT Having spent more hours than I care to count exposed to the Windows environment at work, and through an extended patronage of MindVox which seems to be something of a NeXT mecca full of converts and true believers, when the time came for me to purchase a new machine this fall for in-house evaluation and future planning, I was quite excited by the prospects of NeXTSTEP technology. After arranging to view some of the NeXT's at Vox I came away with a strange feeling that perhaps I should have listened to. I was stunned by the user environment and in an office full of machinery the only only ones that seemed to have any active use as workstations were two NeXT's, and a Super NES ;-). But for the life of me, other than the obvious observation that a lot of people smoke pot in a closed room, I was unable to figure out what anybody there used the NeXT's for other than $10,000 paper weights which served as terminals to be hooked through an ethernet to the servers, all of which were dull, dreary, with the monitors turned off, but every single machine was some kind of Sun. In fact MindVox which started on the NeXT had moved away from using them for anything except fancy terminals as quickly as they could. But no..... I listened to the advice of the people hanging around, read and re-read the evangelists postings and sunk nearly $10,000 of my company's money into a NeXTSTEP eval machine from Dell. And what I now proudly possess is my very own $10,000 paperweight. I plug it into the ethernet, RDP exception #6, the machine hangs every time within a matter of hours. I plug in a modem, guess what, oh SORRY, the serial port drivers have a few problems. I NEEDED A MACHINE THAT CAN COMMUNICATE WITH OTHER MACHINES. A STAND-ALONE SYSTEM IS NEARLY WORTHLESS TO ME AND RIGHT NOW, THAT'S WHAT I HAVE, BECAUSE ANY TIME I TRY TO PLUG IT INTO A NETWORK OR CONNECT A MODEM, IT HANGS. *EVERY SINGLE TIME* To suggest that the solution is waiting for NS3.2 to arrive in the 3rd quarter, or 4th quarter, or whenever it gets here, is absolutely preposterous. I have paid for something which does NOT work. For all its garbage, Windows DOES work and rarely crashes and right now I'm using a 486dx/33 to get my work done, while I look at the NeXT and realize what I should have known in the first place. The NeXT is a beautiful paper-weight, which is championed by the sort of people who have SGI Indigo^2's sitting in their houses because "they're so cool man", have wardrobes from Armani, cars from Porsche, and make a living selling ATTITUDE. In a word, that's the NeXT, because it certainly doesn't do anything like FUNCTION as expected. When I brought these problems back to the true believers I came away with the tremendous wisdom of "well, I dunno, right now I just use kermit on the SGI or tip out" followed by "NeXTSTEP is pretty to look at, but ya know, its like whatever, the Apple ][+ pretty much did everything I wanted a computer to do. It had a terminal program called AE pro, and a word processor. Everything else are neat toys to play with." BINGO. So now I'm using Windows. And looking at OS/2. NeXT, this is RIDICULOUS. Kindly assign one or two persons to take the 3 hours needed to fix your serial port and ethernet drivers and allow those of us who have invested into what you and your evangelists are espousing, to at least make use of what we have purchased. There is no way I could ever recommend NeXTSTEP to our purchasing department, I have this sinking feeling I'd be left holding the bag, a feeling many people who purchased black hardware in 1993 must be very familiar with. chrisl@phantom.com
From: cjp+@pitt.edu (Casimir J Palowitch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: NeXSTEP Intel and SERIAL PORT DRIVER == JOKE Message-ID: <15745@blue.cis.pitt.edu> Date: 3 Jul 93 13:21:31 GMT References: <LTo46B3w165w@mindvox.phantom.com> Sender: news+@pitt.edu Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: University of Pittsburgh After my evangelizing here at the Library, we brought in an evaluation copy of NS/FIP. We tested it out and after several installation quirks, got it running. However, it conks out after a period of a several hours on incoming IP packets. Not good. It is back in the box and on the shelf. Oh well, it was only $300. NeXT dropped the ball putting this release out for general consumption. It is UNUSABLE for network applications, the entire reason we are evaluating new operating systems. Unixware is back on the machine. C'est la NeXT! -- ** Casey Palowitch - cjp+@pitt.edu UWSA #570881 ** ** Networked Information Services Group / Technical Services ** ** U. of Pittsburgh Library Systems // NeXTSTEP... ** ** ...the most respected piece of software on the planet BYTE10/92 **
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: kent@infoserv.com Subject: Re: What should an upgrade of SoftPC 2 to SoftPC 3 cost? Message-ID: <C9H19w.37F@infoserv.com> Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard) Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting References: <1993Jun25.202042.27990@rna.indiv.nluug.nl> Distribution: na Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1993 05:44:20 GMT In article <1993Jun25.202042.27990@rna.indiv.nluug.nl> gerben@rna.indiv.nluug.nl writes: #Anybody know? Yep. $99 for Pro. $199 for Pro with windows. # #Is there an email address of insignia? I couldn't find it. Kent -- /* K.L. Shephard Consulting is my company. Infoserv only delivers my mail. */ /* Please direct mail to kent@infoserv.com other adresses may not work. */
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: compiling tar-1.11.2 Message-ID: <217hse$sh9@zippy.Telcom.Arizona.EDU> From: d_mc@mccube.tucson.az.us (Don McCollam) Date: 4 Jul 1993 21:25:34 GMT Distribution: na Organization: University of Arizona I'd appreciate any advice on compiling tar-1.11.2 (from prep.ai.mit.edu). I get warnings in the compile. I get segmentation faults when I try to execute it. Anyone compile this and use it successfully? I'm running NS3.0 (I want to backup some directories with long pathnames so that I can load NS3.1). Are there NeXT specific settings? Don McCollam citdem@happy.rc.arizona.edu (mail delivery reliable) d_mc@mccube.tucson.az.us (mail delivery iffy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: leen@dutnak2.tn.tudelft.nl (Leen Buitelaar) Subject: ftp-site for new drivers (DriversKit)? Message-ID: <leen.741599146@dutnak2> Summary: Is there a ftp-site for new drivers for NEXTSTEP (Intel)? Keywords: DriversKit,ftp-site,NEXTSTEP (Intel) Sender: news@dutrun2.tudelft.nl (UseNet News System) Organization: Delft University of Technology Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1993 07:45:46 GMT Are there any ftp-sites where I can find the most uptodate drivers for NEXSTEP (Intel)? For example for the graphics adaptor Diamond Viper 2MB VESA which is the fastest graphics board avaible. Thanks in advance, Leen Buitelaar Delft University of Technology.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Newer Opener than 3.0 (with .gz support)? Message-ID: <1993Jul5.093754.22442@urz.unibas.ch> From: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (Robert Frank) Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1993 09:37:54 GMT Sender: news@urz.unibas.ch (USENET News System) References: <1993Jul1.170024.937@aplki.toppoint.de> Organization: Institut fuer Informatik In article <1993Jul1.170024.937@aplki.toppoint.de> writes: > Hi, > > Is there a newer Opener Version than 3.0? > Does it support .gz Files? > Is it adapted for ProjectBuilder? > > Thanks, > > Andreas > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Andreas Ploeger E-Mail: ploeger@tpki.toppoint.de > Kiel University Phone: (49) 431 597 1757 > Clinic for Pediatric Cardiology FAX: (49) 431 597 1828 > Schwanenweg 20, 2300 Kiel 1, Germany *** NeXT Mail welcome *** > -- > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Andreas Ploeger E-Mail: ploeger@tpki.toppoint.de I havn't found one yet. I've tried to recompile under 3.0, but failed, as Opener uses methods no longer supported in 3.0 and I don't (yet) have any documentation for the 3.0 programmer's environment (Next delivers the CD, but no refernce books ...). Some day I'll give it another go. Making it work with PB is no problem, PB does this for you. -Robert -- Robert Frank tel. + (061) 321 99 67 Institut fuer Informatik fax + (061) 321 99 15 University of Basel, Switzerland Mittlere Strasse 142 rfc822: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (NeXT mail accepted) CH-4056 Basel X400: S=frank;OU=ifi;O=unibas;P=switch;A=arcom;C=ch ( if all fails try frank@urz.unibas.ch )
From: reuven@athena.mit.edu (Reuven M. Lerner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Compiling bash under 3.1 Date: 5 Jul 1993 12:52:10 GMT Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology Message-ID: <REUVEN.93Jul5085210@cacciatore.mit.edu> Has anyone managed to compile bash (the GNU shell) under NeXTSTEP 3.1 (black)? I had bash running just fine under 3.0, but brilliantly managed to wipe out my /usr/local directory in upgrading to 3.1. I know that a binary of 1.08 exists, but I'd rather use the most recent version (1.12). A list of diffs needed to do the compilation would be just fine. Reuven
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: arrouye@cosmos.imag.fr (Yves Arrouye) Subject: WideScreen and NS 3.1 (Intel) ? Pb... Message-ID: <ARROUYE.93Jul5155401@mistral.imag.fr> Sender: news@imag.fr Organization: Institut Imag, Grenoble, France Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1993 14:54:01 GMT I have compiled WideScreen0.5 with the 3.x patch, but I have problems executing it. When the application is launched, it hangs because of DPS errors. The error is produced by the [NXApp run] call, but I don't know where... If someone has built it with success on NS 3.1, I am interested in knowing how... Thenks in advance, Yves. P.S.: here is a transcript of the GDB session: (gdb) run Starting program: /me/arrouye/WideScreen-V0.5/WideScreen.app/WideScreen DPS client library error: PostScript program error, DPSContext dc44c %%[ Error: rangecheck; OffendingCommand: window ]%% DPS client library error: PostScript program error, DPSContext dc44c %%[ Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: num ]%% DPS client library error: PostScript program error, DPSContext dc44c %%[ Error: typecheck; OffendingCommand: currentwindowdict ]%% DPS client library error: PostScript program error, DPSContext dc44c %%[ Error: invalidid; OffendingCommand: currentwindowdict ]%% DPS client library error: PostScript program error, DPSContext dc44c %%[ Error: invalidid; OffendingCommand: windowdeviceround ]%% DPS client library error: PostScript program error, DPSContext dc44c %%[ Error: typecheck; OffendingCommand: setgstate ]%% DPS client library error: PostScript program error, DPSContext dc44c %%[ Error: typecheck; OffendingCommand: currentgstate ]%% DPS client library error: PostScript program error, DPSContext dc44c %%[ Error: invalidid; OffendingCommand: currentwindowdict ]%% DPS client library error: PostScript program error, DPSContext dc44c %%[ Error: typecheck; OffendingCommand: setgstate ]%% DPS client library error: PostScript program error, DPSContext dc44c %%[ Error: invalidid; OffendingCommand: flushgraphics ]%% DPS client library error: PostScript program error, DPSContext dc44c %%[ Error: invalidid; OffendingCommand: currentwindowlevel ]%% DPS client library error: Invalid tag in returned object, DPSContext dc44c, data 945888 DPS client library error: Invalid tag in returned object, DPSContext dc44c, data 945904 DPS client library error: Invalid tag in returned object, DPSContext dc44c, data 945920 DPS client library error: Invalid tag in returned object, DPSContext dc44c, data 945936 ^C Program received signal 2, Interrupt 0x5007d3c in msg_receive_trap () (gdb) And there is no explicit call to the window operator in the pswrap code... -- With one processor, we verify that the time spent Yves Arrouye in controlling parallelism is not too long. arrouye@mistral.imag.fr arrouye@imag.imag.fr -- Yannick Tre'molet, LMC (33) 76 57 48 61
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: chuck@cypher .cmhnet.org (Charles G. Bennett) Subject: Re: Mail.app is still busted in NS3.1 Message-ID: <1993Jul4.132002.11807@cypher.cmhnet.org> Sender: chuck@cypher.cmhnet.org Organization: BenaTong, inc. References: <20nnhe$c44@umd5.umd.edu> Date: Sun, 4 Jul 1993 13:20:02 GMT In article <20nnhe$c44@umd5.umd.edu> stoney@oyster.smcm.edu (Stanley Toney) writes: > In article <20m9rvINNg73@skeena.ucs.ubc.ca> wrob@unixg.ubc.ca (Robert > Wong) writes: > >In article <C98ou1.KE9@news2.cis.umn.edu> peter@corsica (Peter Eisch) > writes: > >>Why is this a problem? > >> > >>Robert Wong (wrob@unixg.ubc.ca) wrote: > >>: Well, I just installed the User version of NS3.1. According to the > >>: release notes, Mail.app will STILL not automatically retrieve new > >>: mail if you select "Hide on Auto-Launch". [munched] I have mine on Manual and it works just fine.. A lot of people don't realize that just because you select Manual for retrevial, NOTIFICATION of mail waiting still works the same.. I only mention this because the Bug (in 3.0) the poster speaks of doesn't seem to happen with Manual set.. Chuck -- Chuck Bennett Karnak the Great: "The answer is Rin Tin Tin, Lassie, Windows NT" The Question is, "Name two movie stars and a Dog.." chuck@benatong.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: nikos@cs.cornell.edu (Nikos P. Pitsianis) Subject: Octave or RLaB for NeXT ? Message-ID: <1993Jul5.155600.6024@cs.cornell.edu> Keywords: matlab Sender: news@cs.cornell.edu (USENET news user) Organization: Cornell University, CS Dept., Ithaca, NY Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1993 15:56:00 GMT Hi, did anybody compile either Octave or RLaB for NeXT? Please let me know. Nikos PS For the ones who don't know, these are matlab like programming languages only in the public domain. -- _____________________________________________________________________ Nikos P Pitsianis Internet : nikos@cs.cornell.edu Cornell University Phone : (607) 255 3042 4130 Upson Hall, Dept of Comp Sc FAX : (607) 255 4428 Ithaca, NY 14853 Home : (607) 277 7630
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Boris <Boris@Dylan.demon.co.uk> Subject: HELP! NEED HELP - WONT BOOT Message-ID: <C9p92J.v8@demon.co.uk> Sender: news@demon.co.uk Organization: BorMak Tech (Software consultants & Network Specialists) Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1993 16:13:30 GMT Hiya Folks, I need YOUR help. We just got hold of a Next Cube but we can't get it to work.(thats why it was given to us!) As far as we know, the machine is basically okay inside, just we need the boot disks!(simple enough) The machine specs are as follows; Model N1000 Cude System Release 1.0 System Software Mach/Unix It has one of them natty likkle optical drives in it, for booting I guess. The machine worked once a few months ago but died for no apparent reason. It was sitting in a store room for 3 years, brought into the world thorgh idle curiosity, died, shelved, scrapped (redirected to yours truly). It would be a sin to let the machine rot. PLEASE, SOMEBODY, HELP ME TO GET IT TO WORK! ANY HELP/HINTS/POINTERS(HANDLES?)>???? Where do I get system software? Can I get copies...send them to me...I'll pay charges obviously. HELP! HELP HELP HELP HELP! Lots of Peace, Love and Good Happiness Stuff Boris XXXxxxXXX
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer From: arrouye@imag.fr (Yves Arrouye) Subject: Help! DPS pb with WideScreen 0.5 on NS 3.1 (Intel) Message-ID: <1993Jul5.140701.18491@imag.fr> Sender: news@imag.fr Organization: Institut Imag, Grenoble, France Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1993 14:07:01 GMT I have compiled WideScreen 0.5 with the 3.x 1.1. patch, but it does not run and hang instead, after a DPS serever error. I would like help from someone who did run it, or has some time to try and investigate (I'm new to NS). Thanks in advance, Yves. Here is a gdb session running the executable: (gdb) run Starting program: /me/arrouye/WideScreen-V0.5/WideScreen.app/WideScreen DPS client library error: PostScript program error, DPSContext dc44c %%[ Error: rangecheck; OffendingCommand: window ]%% DPS client library error: PostScript program error, DPSContext dc44c %%[ Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: num ]%% DPS client library error: PostScript program error, DPSContext dc44c %%[ Error: typecheck; OffendingCommand: currentwindowdict ]%% DPS client library error: PostScript program error, DPSContext dc44c %%[ Error: invalidid; OffendingCommand: currentwindowdict ]%% DPS client library error: PostScript program error, DPSContext dc44c %%[ Error: invalidid; OffendingCommand: windowdeviceround ]%% DPS client library error: PostScript program error, DPSContext dc44c %%[ Error: typecheck; OffendingCommand: setgstate ]%% DPS client library error: PostScript program error, DPSContext dc44c %%[ Error: typecheck; OffendingCommand: currentgstate ]%% DPS client library error: PostScript program error, DPSContext dc44c %%[ Error: invalidid; OffendingCommand: currentwindowdict ]%% DPS client library error: PostScript program error, DPSContext dc44c %%[ Error: typecheck; OffendingCommand: setgstate ]%% DPS client library error: PostScript program error, DPSContext dc44c %%[ Error: invalidid; OffendingCommand: flushgraphics ]%% DPS client library error: PostScript program error, DPSContext dc44c %%[ Error: invalidid; OffendingCommand: currentwindowlevel ]%% DPS client library error: Invalid tag in returned object, DPSContext dc44c, data 945888 DPS client library error: Invalid tag in returned object, DPSContext dc44c, data 945904 DPS client library error: Invalid tag in returned object, DPSContext dc44c, data 945920 DPS client library error: Invalid tag in returned object, DPSContext dc44c, data 945936 ^C Program received signal 2, Interrupt 0x5007d3c in msg_receive_trap () (gdb) Note that there is no explicit call to the window operator in the sources... -- With one processor, we verify that the time spent Yves Arrouye in controlling parallelism is not too long. arrouye@mistral.imag.fr arrouye@imag.imag.fr -- Yannick Tre'molet, LMC (33) 76 57 48 61
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software From: brad%raven@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca (Brad Nelson) Subject: Ethernet address Message-ID: <1993Jul5.175550.772@raven.uucp> Sender: brad@raven.uucp (Brad Nelson) Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1993 17:55:50 GMT I have here a piece of code that someone claimed would return the ethernet address of a NeXT. It returns all zeros on my machine. (a 68040 cube) Anyone got a fix? --------- #include <stdio.h> #include <sys/types.h> #include <sys/socket.h> #include <net/if.h> #include <netinet/in.h> #include <netinet/if_ether.h> main() { char hname[65]; struct ether_addr ea; gethostname(hname, sizeof(hname)); ether_hostton(hname, &ea); printf("%s\n", ether_ntoa(&ea)); } --------- Failing that (or maybe better yet) does anyone know of a way of getting the ethernet address of a NeXT without rebooting and reading the messages displayed? I'd like to be able to do some admin stuff from remote - this is a pain! -- -Brad brad%shunda@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca bradley@cs.ualberta.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: giddings@whitewater.chem.wisc.edu (Michael Giddings) Subject: Re: NeXSTEP Intel and SERIAL PORT DRIVER == JOKE Message-ID: <1993Jul5.195442.813@pslu1.psl.wisc.edu> Sender: news@pslu1.psl.wisc.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Physical Sciences Lab, UW-Madison References: <LTo46B3w165w@mindvox.phantom.com> Date: Mon, 5 Jul 93 19:54:42 GMT In article <LTo46B3w165w@mindvox.phantom.com> chrisl@mindvox.phantom.com (Chris Lesher) writes: > (Ranting and Raving at NeXT for an "unuseable" release 3.1). I'll admit that installing 3.1 is a pain. However, once it is installed, it seems to work just fine. And, installing our ethernet was the EASIEST part of getting our systems going. Instead of complaining, why don't you describe your system configuration and the problems you are having to the group, and someone might actually be able to figure out what the problem is. If no one here can figure it out, then it most likeley IS a real problem. Are you using one of the listed Ethernet cards? Is the driver for that card installed etc. . . -- Michael Giddings | DNA sequencing technologies giddings@whitewater.chem.wisc.edu | Artificial Intelligence giddings@cs.wisc.edu | Sciences NeXT User Group founder |---------\-----------/|\------------/---------|
From: strauss@aero.org (Daryll J. Strauss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Wang files to NeXT Date: 5 Jul 1993 21:01:26 GMT Organization: The Aerospace Corporation Distribution: world Message-ID: <21a4r6$oth@news.aero.org> I remember reading quite a while ago about a company that was selling software to convert Wang data processing files into something that the NeXT can handle. We've got some folks that need to do just that. Does anyone have some contact information they can send me?
From: toml@skie.ECE.ORST.EDU (Tom Lieuallen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Ethernet address Keywords: arp ethernet Message-ID: <21a52cINNbgh@engr.orst.edu> Date: 5 Jul 93 21:05:16 GMT References: <1993Jul5.175550.772@raven.uucp> Organization: College of Engineering, Oregon State University In article <1993Jul5.175550.772@raven.uucp> brad%raven@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca (Brad Nelson) writes: > > Failing that (or maybe better yet) does anyone know of a way of > getting the ethernet address of a NeXT without rebooting and > reading the messages displayed? I'd like to be able to do some > admin stuff from remote - this is a pain! ping from a remote machine, then use arp. Example: kaveri /Net/skie/users/toml 78% ping skie 1 1 PING skie: 1 data bytes 9 bytes from 128.193.49.251: icmp_seq=0. ----skie PING Statistics---- 1 packets transmitted, 1 packets received, 0% packet loss kaveri /Net/skie/users/toml 79% arp skie skie (128.193.49.251) at 0:0:f:0:6d:5c kaveri /Net/skie/users/toml 80% ----------- Tom Lieuallen
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: yhe1@cc.swarthmore.edu (-Ye) Subject: Re: .z files versus .Z files Message-ID: <yhe1-050793224743@mac3.roberts.swarthmore.edu> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software Sender: news@cc.swarthmore.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Swarthmore College References: <20se8vINNhvb@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu> Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1993 02:48:01 GMT In article <20se8vINNhvb@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu>, hendryjl@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Jim Hendry) wrote: > > I know this may sound naive, but Opener can't handle a '.z' file. > 'uncompress' wont either. What is this format and where can I get a > decompression program for it? Thanks in advance for help. > Jim Hendry > Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology --------- I have the same question. So those folks who know the answer please don't forget to drop me a line. Thanks! -Ye
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: yhe1@cc.swarthmore.edu (-Ye) Subject: Off campus mail?? Message-ID: <yhe1-050793225332@mac3.roberts.swarthmore.edu> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software Sender: news@cc.swarthmore.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Swarthmore College Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1993 02:58:28 GMT Hello Everyone, I started doing NX programming this summer on a NXstation for my prof.s. But from the machine I can only receive from but cannot send anything to off campus addresses. Does anyone know possibly why? It works perfectly (bidirectionally) for on-campus email. Anyone has any idea? Thanks. -Ye He
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jimr@world.std.com (James A Robinson) Subject: Re: .z files versus .Z files Message-ID: <C9q4Fz.I7@world.std.com> Organization: The World @ Software Tool & Die References: <20se8vINNhvb@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu> <yhe1-050793224743@mac3.roberts.swarthmore.edu> Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1993 03:31:10 GMT yhe1@cc.swarthmore.edu (-Ye) writes: >In article <20se8vINNhvb@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu>, >hendryjl@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Jim Hendry) wrote: >> >> I know this may sound naive, but Opener can't handle a '.z' file. >> 'uncompress' wont either. What is this format and where can I get a >> decompression program for it? Thanks in advance for help. >> Jim Hendry >> Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology >--------- >I have the same question. So those folks who know the answer please don't >forget to drop me a line. Thanks! It is probably a gzip file, try gzip -d [filename] or zcat filename >(whereever) Jim jimr@world.std.com
From: gregory@brigham-circle.mit.edu (Greg Howland) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Help Displaying Weather Maps Date: 6 Jul 1993 07:19:13 GMT Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology Message-ID: <21b91h$ck3@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> I am trying to display the maps from the Weather.app. I get the undecoded gif files instead of a picture of a map. I have ViewGif2 placed in my Apps folder, I have typed make from that directory which produced this result: cc -O -g -Wall -c ViewBitmap.m -o obj/ViewBitmap.o ViewBitmap.m: In method `setup' ViewBitmap.m:108: `NX_ALLBUTTONS' undeclared (first use this function) ViewBitmap.m:108: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once ViewBitmap.m:108: for each function it appears in.) *** Exit 1 Stop. *** Exit 1 Stop. How can I get the ViewGif application to display the weather maps? Thanks in advance Greg -- NewsGrazer, a NeXTstep(tm) news reader, posting -- M>UQR=&8P7&%N<VE[7&9O;G1T8FQ<9C!<9G-W:7-S($AE;'9E=&EC83M]"EQM M87)G;#$R,`I<;6%R9W(Q,C`*7'!A<F1<='@U,S-<='@Q,#8W7'1X,38P,5QT M>#(Q,S5<='@R-C8X7'1X,S(P,EQT>#,W,S9<='@T,C<P7'1X-#@P,UQT>#4S M,S=<9C!<8C!<:3!<=6QN;VYE7&9S,C1<9F,P7&-F,"!)(&%M('1R>6EN9R!T M;R!D:7-P;&%Y('1H92!M87!S(&9R;VT@=&AE(%=E871H97(N87!P+B!)(&=E M="!T:&4@=6YD96-O9&5D(&=I9B!F:6QE<R!I;G-T96%D(&]F(&$@<&EC='5R M92!O9B!A(&UA<"X@22!H879E(%9I97=':68R('!L86-E9"!I;B!M>2!!<'!S M(&9O;&1E<BP@22!H879E('1Y<&5D(&UA:V4@9G)O;2!T:&%T(&1I<F5C=&]R M>2!W:&EC:"!P<F]D=6-E9"!T:&ES(')E<W5L=#I<"EP*("`@("!C8R`@+4\@ M+6<@+5=A;&P@("UC(%9I97=":71M87`N;2`M;R!O8FHO5FEE=T)I=&UA<"YO M7`H@("`@(%9I97=":71M87`N;3H@26X@;65T:&]D(&!S971U<"=<"B`@("`@ M5FEE=T)I=&UA<"YM.C$P.#H@8$Y87T%,3$)55%1/3E,G('5N9&5C;&%R960@ M*&9I<G-T('5S92!T:&ES(&9U;F-T:6]N*5P*("`@("!6:65W0FET;6%P+FTZ M,3`X.B`H16%C:"!U;F1E8VQA<F5D(&ED96YT:69I97(@:7,@<F5P;W)T960@ M;VYL>2!O;F-E7`H@("`@(%9I97=":71M87`N;3HQ,#@Z(&9O<B!E86-H(&9U M;F-T:6]N(&ET(&%P<&5A<G,@:6XN*5P*("`@("`J*BH@17AI="`Q7`H@("`@ M(%-T;W`N7`H@("`@("HJ*B!%>&ET(#%<"B`@("`@4W1O<"Y<"EP*2&]W(&-A M;B!)(&=E="!T:&4@5FEE=T=I9B!A<'!L:6-A=&EO;B!T;R!D:7-P;&%Y('1H M92!W96%T:&5R(&UA<',_7`I<"EP*5&AA;FMS(&EN(&%D=F%N8V5<"D=R96<* "?0IW `
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: .z files versus .Z files Message-ID: <1993Jul6.074758.21968@urz.unibas.ch> From: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (Robert Frank) Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1993 07:47:58 GMT Sender: news@urz.unibas.ch (USENET News System) References: <yhe1-050793224743@mac3.roberts.swarthmore.edu> Organization: Institut fuer Informatik In article <yhe1-050793224743@mac3.roberts.swarthmore.edu> writes: > In article <20se8vINNhvb@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu>, > hendryjl@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Jim Hendry) wrote: > > > > I know this may sound naive, but Opener can't handle a '.z' file. > > 'uncompress' wont either. What is this format and where can I get a > > decompression program for it? Thanks in advance for help. > > Jim Hendry > > Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology > --------- > I have the same question. So those folks who know the answer please don't > forget to drop me a line. Thanks! > > -Ye Opener _can_ handle .z files if you have gnu's gzip program and properly modified opener's configuration table. So, two steps: get gzip and then modify OpenerApp/Opener.table. You'll most probably figure out how yourself. The only nag is that Opener cannot automatically recognize the .gz suffix. If someone with NeXT OS 2.1 still installed could reconfigure and recompile Opener to recognize that suffix and then make that version available to the public? (Compiling under 3.0 isn't easy as Opener uses methods no logner supported in 3.0 [butstill available as calls]). -Robert -- Robert Frank tel. + (061) 321 99 67 Institut fuer Informatik fax + (061) 321 99 15 University of Basel, Switzerland Mittlere Strasse 142 rfc822: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (NeXT mail accepted) CH-4056 Basel X400: S=frank;OU=ifi;O=unibas;P=switch;A=arcom;C=ch ( if all fails try frank@urz.unibas.ch )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: michi@cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Michele Giardini) Subject: Re: ftp-site for new drivers (DriversKit)? References: <leen.741599146@dutnak2> Sender: news-mail@ghost.dsi.unimi.it (News mail user) Organization: Computer Science Dep. - Milan University Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1993 09:29:20 GMT Message-ID: <1993Jul6.092920.8304@ghost.dsi.unimi.it> Leen Buitelaar writes > Are there any ftp-sites where I can find the most uptodate drivers for > NEXSTEP (Intel)? For example for the graphics adaptor Diamond Viper 2MB > VESA which is the fastest graphics board avaible. As you probably know, NeXTAnswers distribute the uptodate drivers. Currently is available the new driver for the Epson Wingine Graphics Adapter. We have an uptodate version of ALL the Nextanwers, and it's available via ftp at our site (cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it). We are also maintaining a mirror of cs.orst.edu, if someone's interested. Ciao Michele > Thanks in advance, > > Leen Buitelaar > Delft University of Technology. -- Giardini Michele - So here I am once more (Marillion) - Computer Science Department State University of Milan - Coordinator of NeXT2You (The Italian NeXT User Group) Via Comelico 39/41 - 20135 Milano Tel. +39 2 55006385 Fax +39 2 55006373 Email: michi@cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (NeXT mail welcome)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: afm@vogon.mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Andreas Mueller) Subject: Re: Newer Opener than 3.0 (with .gz support)? Message-ID: <1993Jul6.092435.27481@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> Sender: news@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (NetNews) Organization: Matlab, University of Heidelberg References: <1993Jul1.170024.937@aplki.toppoint.de> <1993Jul5.093754.22442@urz.unibas.ch> Date: Tue, 6 Jul 93 09:24:35 GMT In article <1993Jul5.093754.22442@urz.unibas.ch> frank@ifi.unibas.ch writes: > I've tried to recompile under 3.0, but failed, as >Opener uses methods no longer supported in 3.0 and I don't (yet) have any >documentation for the 3.0 programmer's environment (Next delivers the CD, but >no refernce books ...). There is no problem to compile Opener under 3.0, one only has to fix imports of defaults.h, which was moved to another place. To get .z and .gz support, simply add lines to Opener.table and Opener.iconheader as described in the Opener documentation. There is no need to muck around with PB or IB. Hope this helps Andreas Mueller -- ------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Andreas Mueller afm@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de Mathematisches Institut der Univeristaet Im Neuenheimer Feld 288 D - 69120 Heidelberg
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bauer@galilei.lbm.mw.tu-muenchen.de (Sebastian Bauer) Subject: Re: Ethernet address Message-ID: <1993Jul6.115105.7032@news.lrz-muenchen.de> Sender: news@news.lrz-muenchen.de (Mr. News) Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany) References: <1993Jul5.175550.772@raven.uucp> Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1993 11:51:05 GMT In article <1993Jul5.175550.772@raven.uucp> brad%raven@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca (Brad Nelson) writes: > > [...] > Failing that (or maybe better yet) does anyone know of a way of > getting the ethernet address of a NeXT without rebooting and > reading the messages displayed? I'd like to be able to do some > admin stuff from remote - this is a pain! > > -- > -Brad brad%shunda@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca > bradley@cs.ualberta.ca A way to do that should be to look up the information in /usr/adm/messages: You could use for that: grep 'Ethernet address' /usr/adm/messages | tail -1 by logging in to the machine of which you need the address or by doing that with rsh. Sebastian Bauer (bauer@galilei.lbm.mw.tu-muenchen.de)
From: Robert.Claeson@sweden.dg.com (Robert Claeson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Video editing software? Date: 6 Jul 1993 13:42:14 GMT Organization: Data General AB, Stockholm, Sweden Distribution: world Message-ID: <21bvfm$7k2@dgswe.sweden.dg.com> I'm looking for a video editing software package that runs under NeXTSTEP. This is for professional use by a television broadcasting company. Is there anyone who has heard about or seen such a package? If so, please let me know. Thank's, Robert -- Robert Claeson, Data General AB, Sweden E-mail: Robert.Claeson@sweden.dg.com X.400: G=robert; S=claeson; P=data general; A=400net; C=se NeXTmail is accepted and in fact encouraged.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Tony_Wosnjuk Subject: Re: Ethernet address Message-ID: <1993Jul6.144621.9723@novell.com> Sender: news@novell.com (The Netnews Manager) Organization: Novell, Inc. References: <1993Jul6.115105.7032@news.lrz-muenchen.de> Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1993 14:46:21 GMT In article <1993Jul5.175550.772@raven.uucp> brad%raven@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca (Brad Nelson) writes: > > [...] > Failing that (or maybe better yet) does anyone know of a way of > getting the ethernet address of a NeXT without rebooting and > reading the messages displayed? I'd like to be able to do some > admin stuff from remote - this is a pain! > > -- > -Brad brad%shunda@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca > bradley@cs.ualberta.ca Do you have "/bin/hostid"? That seems to work pretty good for me. ie. >hostid 0x100c945 Substitute 0x1 for 00000F
From: neuss@igd.fhg.de (Christian Neuss ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: .z files versus .Z files Date: 6 Jul 93 13:41:25 GMT Organization: IGD Message-ID: <neuss.741966085@ramazzotti> References: <20se8vINNhvb@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu> hendryjl@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Jim Hendry) writes: >I know this may sound naive, but Opener can't handle a '.z' file. >'uncompress' wont either. What is this format and where can I get a >decompression program for it? Thanks in advance for help. Hm.. in th "Old Days" (TM), the .z extension used to stand for a compressor called "pack".. those files had to be "unpack"ed. When "compress" was developped, the use of "pack" was no longer encouraged. But methinks that recently I have seen ".z" as an extension of the gnu programm "gzip". Maybe you should check the archives for a NeXT version. Cheers, Chris /* * Christian Neuss % neuss@igd.fhg.de % ..in the humdrum */
From: anstine@uniblab.sas.upenn.edu (David Anstine) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Vacation Message-ID: <134684@netnews.upenn.edu> Date: 6 Jul 93 15:54:21 GMT Sender: news@netnews.upenn.edu Is there a NextStep app available for setting up vacation messages? -dave
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: eugene@nshade.uah.ualberta.ca (Eugene Mah) Subject: CircuitBuilder Message-ID: <1993Jul6.171553.7364@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1993 17:15:53 GMT I was playing with a copy of CircuitBuilder that was left over from when I had 2.1 on my systems, and I thought it was pretty neat. It's also something I thought a few people around here might like to play with, and I was wondering if anyone could tell me where (or if) the source code for it was available from. Many thanks. Please send replies to the address below. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Eugene Mah ----> eugene@uaneuro.uah.ualberta.ca (NeXT-Mail) grad student/sys admin "For I am a Bear of Very Department of Radiology Little Brain, and University of Alberta Hospitals long words bother me." Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Winnie the Pooh
From: janthony@nextsrv1.andi.org (Jay Anthony) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: FrameMaker 2.0 under NEXTSTEP 3.1 not working Date: 6 Jul 1993 12:49:50 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9307061750.AA04717@nextsrv1.andi.org> I'm running FrameMaker 2.0 (note *not* the most recent version) under NS 3.1 on black hardware. It was working fine under 3.0, but after updating the program will not start-up. The console reports: vvvvvvv maker: Using /LocalApps/FrameMaker.app/.fminit2.0 maker: DisplayWidth 1120 DisplayHeight 832 maker: starting postscript download Jul 6 13:26:53 localhost WindowServer[144]: Can't open `/tmp/debug': context is write-prohibited. maker: finished postscript download maker: Starting FrameMaker 2.0b. Copyright (c) 1986-1989 Frame Technology Corp. maker: Internal error 8. ^^^^^^^^ And then quits. If I boot off a 3.0 start-up disk it works correctly. Does anyone know what might cause this? I'm a little curious as to what "Can't open /tmp/debug" means...? Thanks for any help! -- Jay --- Jason W. Anthony NeXTmail: DigitalExpressions@andi.org Digital Expressions Inc. Voice/Fax: +1 518 346-0568
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: brad%raven@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca (Brad Nelson) Subject: Help with TransSys SLIP configuration Message-ID: <1993Jul6.175440.1773@raven.uucp> Sender: brad@raven.uucp (Brad Nelson) Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1993 17:54:40 GMT Help! I'm trying to set up a SLIP link between my machine at home and a SLIP server on the internet, both NeXTs, using TransSys DialUp-IP. I have it working to the point that I can telnet or ftp from the client at home to the server, but nothing else works. I can't telnet from another machine on the internet, even on the 109 subnet, to the client (109.203) nor can I telnet from the client to any machine other than the server (muscle - 109.202) I can't even telnet to muscle's ethernet address. (109.173) But maybe I shouldn't be trying that. Server IP address (on ethernet) 129.128.109.173 (muscle.uah.ualberta.ca) Server SLIP address 129.128.109.202 Client IP address (ethernet interface) 129.128.109.204 (shunda) Client SLIP address 129.128.109.203 What about all these addresses being on the same subnet? I notice in the SLIP docs that the server is on a different subnet from its slip address, and from the SLIP client. Do I need to use a different subnet for some of these? /etc/hostconfig: HOSTNAME=shunda INETADDR=129.128.109.204 ROUTER=-NO- IPNETMASK= IPBROADCAST=-AUTOMATIC- NETMASTER=-NO- YPDOMAIN=-NO- TIME=-AUTOMATIC- /etc/resolv.conf: domain uah.ualberta.ca nameserver 129.128.5.215 nameserver 129.128.4.241 Should I be using this file? (resolv.conf) The only thing it appears to accomplish is to confuse sendmail into trying to use the SLIP link instead of uucp. SLIP configuration: (/usr/dialupip/config/config.slip) SLIP0LOCAL=129.128.109.203 SLIP0REMOTE=129.128.109.202 SLIP0NETMASK=255.255.255.0 SLIP0CONFIG=SLIP SLIP0DEFAULT=YES Miscellaneous: There is nothing connected to the ethernet ports on the client machine. I've done the 'arp -s ...' thing on the server (muscle) Should I be running routed on muscle? (I think not) How about on the client? This thing is driving me nuts. Any help would be appreciated. -- -Brad brad%shunda@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca bradley@cs.ualberta.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: pjoey@charon.muc.de (Peter Eybert) Subject: Re: Help Displaying Weather Maps Message-ID: <1993Jul6.191850.719@charon.muc.de> Sender: pjoey@charon.muc.de Organization: Peter Eybert References: <21b91h$ck3@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1993 19:18:50 GMT In article <21b91h$ck3@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> gregory@brigham-circle.mit.edu (Greg Howland) writes: > I am trying to display the maps from the Weather.app. I get the undecoded gif files instead of a picture of a map. I have ViewGif2 placed in my Apps folder, I have typed make from that directory which produced this result: > > cc -O -g -Wall -c ViewBitmap.m -o obj/ViewBitmap.o > ViewBitmap.m: In method `setup' > ViewBitmap.m:108: `NX_ALLBUTTONS' undeclared (first use this function) One of the "improvements" in NS3.0. NX_ALLBUTTONS has been removed. You have to use (NX_CLOSEBUTTONMASK|NX_MINIATURIZEBUTTONMASK) instead. See NS3.0 ReleaseNotes/AppKit.rtf. Howdy, Peter. -- ____________________________________________________________ Peter Eybert pjoe@charon.muc.de Appenzellerstr. 123 Tel: +49-89-7593734 81475 Muenchen (wanted: NeXTMail) -- NewsGrazer, a NeXTstep(tm) news reader, posting -- M>UQR=&8P7&%N<VE[7&9O;G1T8FQ<9C!<9FUO9&5R;B!#;W5R:65R.UQF,5QF M<W=I<W,@2&5L=F5T:6-A.UQF,EQF;FEL(%1I;65S+5)O;6%N.WT*7&UA<F=L M,3(P"EQM87)G<C$R,`I[7&-O;&]R=&)L.UQR960P7&=R965N,%QB;'5E,#M] M"EQP87)D7'1X,3$U,EQT>#(S,#1<='@S-#4V7'1X-#8P.%QT>#4W-C!<='@V M.3$R7'1X.#`V-%QT>#DR,39<='@Q,#,V.%QT>#$Q-3(P7&8P7&(P7&DP7'5L M;F]N95QF<S(T7&9C,%QC9C`@7`I<"DEN(&%R=&EC;&4@/#(Q8CDQ:"1C:S-` M<V5N871O<BUB961F96QL;W<N34E4+D5$53X@9W)E9V]R>4!B<FEG:&%M+6-I M<F-L92YM:70N961U("A'<F5G($AO=VQA;F0I('=R:71E<SI<"@I<<&%R9%QT M>#!<='@Q,3(P7'1X,C(T,%QT>#,S-C!<='@T-#@P7'1X-38P,%QT>#8W,C!< M='@W.#0P7'1X.#DV,%QT>#$P,#@P7'1X,3$R,#!<='@Q,C,R,%QT>#$S-#0P M7'1X,30U-C!<='@Q-38X,%QT>#$V.#`P7'1X,3<Y,C!<='@Q.3`T,%QT>#(P M,38P7'1X,C$R.#!<9F,Q7&-F,2!<"@I<<&%R9%QT>#4R,%QT>#$P-C!<='@Q M-C`P7'1X,C$R,%QT>#(V-C!<='@S,C`P7'1X,S<R,%QT>#0R-C!<='@T.#`P M7'1X-3,R,%QF,5QF8S!<8V8P(#X@22!A;2!T<GEI;F<@=&\@9&ES<&QA>2!T M:&4@;6%P<R!F<F]M('1H92!796%T:&5R+F%P<"X@22!G970@=&AE('5N9&5C M;V1E9"!G:68@9FEL97,@:6YS=&5A9"!O9B!A('!I8W1U<F4@;V8@82!M87`N M($D@:&%V92!6:65W1VEF,B!P;&%C960@:6X@;7D@07!P<R!F;VQD97(L($D@ M:&%V92!T>7!E9"!M86ME(&9R;VT@=&AA="!D:7)E8W1O<GD@=VAI8V@@<')O M9'5C960@=&AI<R!R97-U;'0Z7`H^(%P*/B`@("`@(&-C("`M3R`M9R`M5V%L M;"`@+6,@5FEE=T)I=&UA<"YM("UO(&]B:B]6:65W0FET;6%P+F]<"CX@("`@ M("!6:65W0FET;6%P+FTZ($EN(&UE=&AO9"!@<V5T=7`G7`H^("`@("`@5FEE M=T)I=&UA<"YM.C$P.#H@8$Y87T%,3$)55%1/3E,G('5N9&5C;&%R960@*&9I M<G-T('5S92!T:&ES(&9U;F-T:6]N*5P*7`I/;F4@;V8@=&AE(")I;7!R;W9E M;65N=',B(&EN($Y3,RXP+B!.6%]!3$Q"55143TY3(&AA<R!B965N(')E;6]V M960N(%EO=2!H879E('1O("!U<V4@"EQF,EQF<S(X7&9C,5QC9C$@*`I<9C`@ M3EA?0TQ/4T5"55143TY-05-+?$Y87TU)3DE!5%5225I%0E545$].34%32PI< M9C(@*2!I;G-T96%D+@I<9C%<9G,R-%QF8S!<8V8P(%P*4V5E($Y3,RXP(%)E M;&5A<V5.;W1E<R]!<'!+:70N<G1F+EP*7`H)2&]W9'DL(%!E=&5R+EP*+2U< M"@I<<&%R9%QT>#$Q-3)<='@R,S`T7'1X,S0U-EQT>#0V,#A<='@U-S8P7'1X M-CDQ,EQT>#@P-C1<='@Y,C$V7'1X,3`S-CA<='@Q,34R,%QF8S!<8V8P(%]? M7U]?7U]?7U]?7U]?7U]?7U]?7U]?7U]?7U]?7U]?7U]?7U]?7U]?7U]?7U]? M7U]?7U]?7U]?7U]?7UP*4&5T97(@17EB97)T("`@("`@("`@("`@("`@("`@ M("`@("`@("`@("`@<&IO94!C:&%R;VXN;75C+F1E7`I!<'!E;GIE;&QE<G-T M<BX@,3(S("`@("`@("`@("`@("`@("`@("`@(%1E;#H@*S0Y+3@Y+3<U.3,W M,S1<"C@Q-#<U($UU96YC:&5N("`@("`@("`@("`@("`@("`@("`@("`@("`@ 6("AW86YT960Z($YE6%1-86EL*0I]"B`@ ` --
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) Subject: Any Word Processors Available for NS/Intel? Message-ID: <1993Jul6.145421.1601@news.mic.ucla.edu> Organization: UCLA, Anderson Graduate School Of Management Date: 6 Jul 93 14:54:21 PDT I just called WordPerfect (801-226-7654) to purchase WP/NS-FIP. They have no information when it will be shipping. I have also tried some other vendors, and always received the same information --- its not shipping. I had hoped that this would not be a problem, because I could just use SoftPC to run a Windows WP, but that is not available until August either. How difficult can it be to simply compile a NS/040 program into a fat new version? Is there any WordProcessor available for NS-FIP(and preferably one that can exchange text with some popular PC text processors)? NOW? /ivo welch
From: mfausett@bbn.com (Mark Fausett) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: looking for X11R5 x server for color nextstation; Date: 7 Jul 93 00:35:12 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <watchtm.742005312@kirin> Keywords: color X11 Some time ago I remember (was it Douglas Scott?) someone had released an X11 server for Mouse-X that supported color stations. Didn't have color at the time, so I didn't make a note. Does anyone know where this is? Thanks! Mark Fausett mfausett@bbn.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) Subject: Software for NS/I Message-ID: <1993Jul7.032450.22197@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: DSO, Stanford University Date: Wed, 7 Jul 93 03:24:50 GMT People have asked for lists of software for NS/I. There is such a list on the latest Electronic App Wrapper, which just came in the mail. Perhaps the folks at Paget could post it? -- - Stefano Pagiola Food Research Institute, Stanford University spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged) spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin) Subject: Re: Any Word Processors Available for NS/Intel? Message-ID: <bchin.742016956@news.andi.org> Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International References: <1993Jul6.145421.1601@news.mic.ucla.edu> Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1993 03:49:16 GMT iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) writes: >I just called WordPerfect (801-226-7654) to purchase WP/NS-FIP. They >have no information when it will be shipping. I have also tried some >other vendors, and always received the same information --- its not >shipping. I had hoped that this would not be a problem, because I >could just use SoftPC to run a Windows WP, but that is not available >until August either. How difficult can it be to simply compile a >NS/040 program into a fat new version? Whomever you called had incorrect information. WordPerfect for NeXTSTEP 3.x shipped around June 10th... I just ordered my interim upgrade. It is MAB (fat) and requires 3.x. -- Bill Chin, NeXTSTEP Developer, PRC Inc. VP Communications, Washington Area NeXT Users Group Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International Technical Staff bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org - NeXTmail welcomed
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bcongdon@lotatg.lotus.com (Bob Congdon) Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP(3.0->3.1 black upgrade) I'm confused. Message-ID: <C9r85G.oG@lotus.com> Sender: news@lotus.com Organization: Lotus Development References: <212b2oINNq56@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1993 17:48:51 GMT In article <212b2oINNq56@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> isbell@cats.ucsc.edu (Art Isbell) writes: > > In article <1993Jul1.183234.24898@lotus.com> bcongdon@lotatg.lotus.com (Bob Congdon) writes: > >But all is well now -- I received my 3.1 User upgrade today. Now when are they > >going to pick up the second 3.1 Developer upgrade that they sent me? > > Send it to me!! I ordered the 3.1 upgrade in early May and received the User > version about 3 weeks ago. When I called today, I was told that my Developer > version had been sent from Buffalo to my home on the West Coast by UPS Ground > a week ago :-( What kind of service is that? Pretty bad service, I'd say. By the way, Airbourne Express picked up my second 3.1 Devo package last Friday.... sorry. --bob congdon bcongdon@lotatg.lotus.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: cowboy@hobby.nl (Joe Rosenfeld) Subject: Surprise, Surprise, Emacs 19.16 compiles on NS 3.0 Message-ID: <1993Jul7.110438.21989@news.csuohio.edu> Summary: Emacs-19.16 compiles on NS 3.0 Keywords: emacs compiles compile 3.0 Sender: news@news.csuohio.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Cleveland State University Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1993 11:04:38 GMT I was very pleasantly surprised last night, when in a fit of compiling fever, I blindly reached out through FTP to get Emacs-19.16 from prep.ai.mit.edu:/pub/gnu, and found that after typing "configure next" and then doing a make [I use make-3.67 from GNU with standard cc from NeXTSTEP 3.0 CD], that it compiled without trouble. The install had one bug: it looked for a user bin which does not exist on Trans, my Turbo-Slab. I am running MouseX (2.3) with all developers files from that release on foxtrot, and the X part compiled too. It has the whole shebang, apparently, even GNUS, though I STILL prefer Tin, especially now that there is an X-post patch that works with it. It sure beats being behind, as is unfortunately the usual for NeXT users, due to non-POSIX compliant and other hare-brained ideas with their libraries, etc. Compliments to the folk at GNU and those who did the Emacs-19.16 release. Joe -- | Joe Rosenfeld cowboy@trans.csuohio.edu | CSU Law Library j.rosenfeld@csuohio.edu
From: brunkhorst@mayo.edu (Geoff Brunkhorst) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Any Word Processors Available for NS/Intel? Date: 7 Jul 1993 12:30:58 GMT Organization: Mayo Foundation Distribution: world Message-ID: <21efm2$kpg@fermat.mayo.edu> References: <bchin.742016956@news.andi.org> In article <bchin.742016956@news.andi.org> bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin) writes: > iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) writes: > > > >I just called WordPerfect (801-226-7654) to purchase WP/NS-FIP. They > >have no information when it will be shipping. I have also tried some > >other vendors, and always received the same information --- its not > >shipping. I had hoped that this would not be a problem, because I > >could just use SoftPC to run a Windows WP, but that is not available > >until August either. How difficult can it be to simply compile a > >NS/040 program into a fat new version? Well it's not hard to recompile it. What is hard is redesigning it for MAB. WordPerfect had cut a few corners in it's earlier releases. In talking to the developers at NWE, they have been busy making WordPerfect MAB-ready. The current release has removed all the TIFF images from the binary, uses nib files everywhere, and has NeXT-Help and Language support. This was not a simple recompile. > Whomever you called had incorrect information. WordPerfect for NeXTSTEP > 3.x shipped around June 10th... I just ordered my interim upgrade. > It is MAB (fat) and requires 3.x. Bill is right. I rec'd my version yesterday... Some facts: It is now 8.1MB installed (before the Font and Help files!) It used to be 4.6MB Most of the binaries doubled in size. The main binary only increased by 30%, but my guess is that the removal of images countered the code increase They added Drag and Drop text manipulation. It's a little clumsy, but it's intuitive. Not quite as nice as Word, however, since Word moves the 'cut' region visually. WordPerfect iconifies the cut region to a WP document Icon. They also added NeXT-Help and autosensing of ADB keyboards (for new black hardware). - Geoff ----------------------------------------------------------------- Geoffrey Brunkhorst brunkhorst@Mayo.edu Research Computing Facility, Guggenheim 10 (507) 284-1805 Mayo Foundation, Rochester MN, 55905, USA fax (507) 284-5231
From: dbo@statsdata.no Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: DIGITAL EYE - upgrade Date: 7 Jul 1993 13:07:01 GMT Organization: Statens Datasentral AS, Oslo, Norway Message-ID: <21ehpl$eg7@ratatosk.uninett.no> Hi, after some time without possibility of reading News (some of us leave universities) I have got this possibility again. I have a qiestion to you (who know SO much about NeXT): My company have DIGITAL EYE & EAR, which have not been used since NEXTSTEP 2.x. Now, I want to use the hardware on my brand new NEXTSTEP 3.1 but I suspect I must get an upgrade of software. Since our dealer here in Norway is out of business and I can not find mail address to the manufacturer I must ask you if you know anything about the harware and software I have found in a dusty room. -------------------------------------------------- Dariusz Bogacki dbo@statsdata.no
From: doko@cs.tu-berlin.de (Matthias Klose) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Emacs-19.15 Date: 07 Jul 93 16:07:13 GMT Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <21eor3$cs4@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> References: <20mdu1$hro@email.tuwien.ac.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-reply-to: joggl@neuro.tuwien.ac.at's message of 28 Jun 93 10:33:53 MET > From: joggl@neuro.tuwien.ac.at (Joachim Kainz) > Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software > Could somebody that was able to build the emacs provide the binaries on > some anonymous-ftp host? ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de:/pub/NeXT/gnu-bin/emacs-19.15-NeXTbin.tar.gz (configured --with-x, compiled with gcc -O2)
From: doko@cs.tu-berlin.de (Matthias Klose) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Compiling bash under 3.1 Date: 07 Jul 93 16:09:24 GMT Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <21eov5$cvm@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> References: <REUVEN.93Jul5085210@cacciatore.mit.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-reply-to: reuven@athena.mit.edu's message of 05 Jul 93 13:52:10 MET In article <REUVEN.93Jul5085210@cacciatore.mit.edu> reuven@athena.mit.edu (Reuven M. Lerner) writes: > I had bash running just fine under 3.0, but brilliantly managed to > wipe out my /usr/local directory in upgrading to 3.1. I know that a > binary of 1.08 exists, but I'd rather use the most recent version ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de:/pub/NeXT/gnu-bin/bash-1.12-NeXTbin.tar.gz
From: grant@Manticore.COM (Grant J. Munsey) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Display-Postscript coordinate transforms Message-ID: <383@gouche.UUCP> Date: 7 Jul 93 15:31:56 GMT Sender: grant@gouche.UUCP I would like to know how the appkit/display postscript transforms the floating point coordinates for the ends of a 0 width line into pixel coordinates. Is this documented somewhere. The basic question is do they round or truncate or ? I already understand about the ctm stuff, its just the conversion to actual integer pixel addresses that I want to know about. ---- Grant Munsey, Mainticore, Inc., (408)252-1135, fax: (408)446-9355 grant@manticore.com or uunet!ub-gate!gouche!grant
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: zalta@mally.Stanford.EDU (Ed Zalta) Subject: Quotations.app won't open--looks for .index in nonexistent directory Message-ID: <1993Jul7.182627.9410@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: DSO, Stanford University Date: Wed, 7 Jul 93 18:26:27 GMT I have finally had occasion to use Quotations, but it wouldn't open. Could someone please tell me where Quotations.app looks for information. When I try to open it, I get the following error message: > Couldn't open Quotations index > (/users/zalta/Library/Reference/Oxford Quotations//.index/index) But this location no longer exists. Before I upgraded to 3.0 last year, I stored the source material for Quotations on my larger external drive (to save disk space on my internal drive). I linked it back into the place on the internal drive where it was suppose to be found. However, after upgrading to 3.0, I left the "FrontMatter" on the CD-ROM (which runs continually as a SCSI device), and linked it back into /NextLibrary/References/OxfordQuotations, leaving a real copy of the index in the same directory on the internal drive. But apparently Quotations is being told to look in the old place, and I can't seem to find which .NeXT file in my home directory is causing this behavior. I think it must be such a file, for when I log on as root, Quotations works (opens) in the usual manner. Thanks for any pointers. Ed
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) Subject: Re: Any Word Processors Available for NS/Intel? Message-ID: <1993Jul7.104810.17467@news.mic.ucla.edu> Organization: UCLA, Anderson Graduate School Of Management References: <bchin.742016956@news.andi.org> <21efm2$kpg@fermat.mayo.edu> Date: 7 Jul 93 10:48:10 PDT As I just found out, NS/FIP WordPerfect is out---but only the non-educational version. It will take 10-14 more days before the educational version will ship. Also, WP 6.0 for NS is not scheduled before first quarter of 1994. There will be an upgrade fee at that time. WordPerfect IS SOFAR THE ONLY OPTION. /ivo welch PS: It is of course amusing that I sold my NS/040 WordPerfect, and now have to purchase a fat NS/040+FIP version.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Scott Byer <byer@mv.us.adobe.com> Subject: Re: Display-Postscript coordinate transforms Message-ID: <1993Jul7.204308.8698@adobe.com> Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS) Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated References: <383@gouche.UUCP> Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1993 20:43:08 GMT Grant J. Munsey writes > I would like to know how the appkit/display postscript transforms > the floating point coordinates for the ends of a 0 width line > into pixel coordinates. Is this documented somewhere. The basic > question is do they round or truncate or ? I already understand > about the ctm stuff, its just the conversion to actual integer > pixel addresses that I want to know about. This is documented in the RedBook; there's a section on scan conversion. The basic method is overscanning, with a half-open pixel definition. Note that the ends of the line are *not* rounded or truncated - sub-pixel information is kept. They may be adjusted slightly when strokeadjust is true. This becomes apparent if you try drawing several lines next to each other with slightly different top offsets, and note where the "jag" occurs. (e.g., "99 100 moveto 101.25 200 lineto stroke" compared to "99 100 moveto 101.75 200 lineto stroke"). (Why keep sub-pixel information about line ends? Think about clipping for a second :-) -- Scott Byer NeXTMail: byer@mv.us.adobe.com Adobe Systems Incorporated These are *my* opinions, and 1585 Charleston Road, P.O. Box 7900 do not necessarily reflect Mountain View, CA 94039-7900 the opinions of my employer. ---------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: brill@sybase.com (Michael Brill) Subject: UHDiagram_Kit - how to get Message-ID: <C9t02E.L80@sybase.com> Sender: usenet@sybase.com Organization: Sybase, Inc. Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1993 16:49:26 GMT I ftp'ed a copy of UH_DiagramKit from the University of Houston archives... but since it's set up for black hardware (which I no longer have), it's not much use - I tried emailing their address but my mail got bounced... anyone know how I can get ahold of anyone involved with the DiagramKit? Thanks, ...Michael
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: tim@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu (Tim Pugh) Subject: Re: Compiling bash under 3.1 Message-ID: <C9tHJC.HtB@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu> Organization: Johns Hopkins Continuing Professional Programs References: <REUVEN.93Jul5085210@cacciatore.mit.edu> <21eov5$cvm@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1993 23:06:48 GMT doko@cs.tu-berlin.de (Matthias Klose) writes: >In article <REUVEN.93Jul5085210@cacciatore.mit.edu> reuven@athena.mit.edu (Reuven M. Lerner) writes: >> I had bash running just fine under 3.0, but brilliantly managed to >> wipe out my /usr/local directory in upgrading to 3.1. I know that a >> binary of 1.08 exists, but I'd rather use the most recent version > ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de:/pub/NeXT/gnu-bin/bash-1.12-NeXTbin.tar.gz I am confused (so what's new :). I thought NS3.1 had POSIX compatability. Since POSIX.2 has already been signed off -- or at least I thought it had -- I assumed NeXT would be shipping the Korn Shell (ksh). Isn't it part of the POSIX.2 standard? Could someone please clear this up for me. The reason for asking this question in association with the earlier query is my understanding that bash is the GNU ksh workalike. --Tim -- Tim Pugh |MicroCALL Services tim@aplcenmp.apl.JHU.EDU |8713 Briarcroft Lane |Laurel, MD 20708-1355 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: brill@sybase.com (Michael Brill) Subject: Palettized Gantt charting Message-ID: <C9tE9v.7w1@sybase.com> Sender: usenet@sybase.com Organization: Sybase, Inc. Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1993 21:56:18 GMT A few weeks ago, someone posted an announcement for a set of objects that displayed Gantt chart (I believe from DBKit-supplied data?). If anyone knows of this, please give me a holler. Thanks, ...Michael
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: magnus@fisher.Stanford.EDU (Magnus Nordborg) Subject: SoftPC on NS/FIP Message-ID: <1993Jul8.011223.25512@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: DSO, Stanford University Date: Thu, 8 Jul 93 01:12:23 GMT Does anyone know when it is due? -Magnus -- Magnus Nordborg magnus@fisher.stanford.edu (NeXT mail preferred) Department of Biological Sciences Stanford University Stanford, CA 94305-5020 +1 (415) 723-4952 (office)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: mpro-request@netcom.com Subject: MAILING LIST: MicroPhone Pro for NEXTSTEP Message-ID: <thompsonC9tqx4.5KF@netcom.com> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc Sender: thompson@netcom.com (Eric Thompson) Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1993 02:29:27 GMT Hi, I have started a mailing list devoted to MicroPhone Pro for NEXTSTEP. Its purpose is to discuss the software, and to share hints, scripts, and other information with fellow users. Anonymous ftp will available for archives, scripts, etc. If you use MicroPhone Pro for NEXTSTEP, this is the place to be :-) SUBSCRIBE TO: mpro-request@netcom.com Eric Thompson MPRO Mailing List Manager
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.software From: dav@well.sf.ca.us (Paul Davilon) Subject: Buggy SERIAL PORT Drivers Message-ID: <C9txvo.A6J@well.sf.ca.us> Summary: boom crash Keywords: junk Sender: news@well.sf.ca.us Organization: The Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link, Sausalito, CA Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1993 04:59:47 GMT Unfortunately I too am stuck in the same situation that has apparently hit so many others here. My main source of information regarding NeXT has been MindVox and The WELL, along with comp.sys.next, which I unfortunately did not read often enough, or perhaps there were no posting prior to those of the last few weeks about the serial ports. Though (justifiably) angry, Mr. Mercke's (sp) well-stated letter summed up the way I'm feeling right now better than I could do it myself, so I'll let it stay with that and add in that I find it ridiculous that FREEWARE such as Linux or BSDI *CAN* have working, robust drivers, cross all kinds of platforms while NeXT says "A couple of weeks for testing." NeXT I would say to you: Make that as fast as you can, nothing you possibly release could be worse than it is. They plain and simple don't work. I am very slightly pacified by at least some response, but if I don't see some ACTION in the form of updated drivers VERY soon, then I'm going to start writing some letters and having conversations with people I consult for, starting with Viacom and moving on to the NeXT forums on MindVox and WELL, and ending with a direct mailing of every single person covering technology and Cyberspace issues on both Vox and WELL, and their number is quite large. Judging by the heat here I'm going to have a lot of comiserators happy to do the same thing. This is not a threat, its a statement of action. If as you claim NeXT is doing, and some new serial drivers come out, I'll be writing the same group of people letters, only this time it'll be how wonderful NeXT is to customer response, and how quickly they solve problems once they are made aware of them. Please give me the opportunity to say nice things, and give your customers what they paid for in the first place. Paul Pardon the typographic errors, I have grown used to cut and pasting and now I'm running Windows and using vi. dav@well.sf.ca.us dav@mindvox.phantom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Subject: Sybase from 2.x upgrade Message-ID: <1993Jul8.052450.1335@digifix.com> Sender: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Organization: Digital Fix Development Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1993 05:24:50 GMT Hi all... Well way back when I upgraded to 2.x I got a Sybase Limited Server (it was with the educational stuff way back then). Is this something that I can use under 3.1 now with the DBKit? Do I need to upgrade anything, or will it _just work_? -- - Scott Anguish - sanguish@digifix.com (NextMail) next-announce@digifix.com (comp.sys.next.announce submissions)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) Subject: Re: .z files versus .Z files Message-ID: <1993Jul8.061904.27781@csus.edu> Sender: news@csus.edu Organization: San Francisco State University References: <20se8vINNhvb@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu> <neuss.741966085@ramazzotti> Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1993 06:19:04 GMT In article <neuss.741966085@ramazzotti> neuss@igd.fhg.de (Christian Neuss ) writes: >Hm.. in th "Old Days" (TM), the .z extension used to stand for a >compressor called "pack".. those files had to be "unpack"ed. When >"compress" was developped, the use of "pack" was no longer encouraged. The vast majority of UNIX systems on the planet still use pack (which unquestionably does not violate anyone's intellectual property rights) and .z is RESERVED for this format. If you have a version of gzip that generates .z (rather than .gz) files, it is *defective* and should be replaced with the current GNU version. (Note that while gzip will *read* a variety of compressed formats--including proper .z files--its output should be considered proprietary.) In no case should you place a gzipped file with a .z suffix on an anonymous FTP site--this will only serve to create extreme confusion and resentment. -=EPS=-
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: tommi@balou.stc.auc.dk Subject: e-mail adress from Doug Wiebe wanted Message-ID: <1993Jul8.102313.3297@iesd.auc.dk> Sender: news@iesd.auc.dk (UseNet News) Organization: Mathematics and Computer Science, University of Aalborg Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1993 10:23:13 GMT Hi, does anybody know the e-mail adress from Doug Wiebe? I need it very urgend... Thanks, tommi ----------------------- Thomas Pfleiderer tommi@balou.stc.auc.dk NeXT-Mail preferred -----------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: raptor!rlove (Robert B. Love ) Subject: Squash & 3.1 Message-ID: <1993Jul8.023136.1491@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> Keywords: black h/w, Squash, 3.1 Sender: rlove@nugget.rmNUG.ORG Organization: Rocky Mountain NeXT Users' Group Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1993 02:31:36 GMT After I upgraded to 3.1 (black h/w) I find I can no longer drag 'n drop onto Squash. Anybody else have this problem? Services still work, luckily. -- Bob Love rlove@raptor.rmnug (NeXT Mail OK) BIX: rlove -- Bob Love rlove@raptor.rmnug (NeXT Mail OK) BIX: rlove
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: jamast00@bigdaddy.mik.uky.edu (John A. Mastrolia) Subject: Re: More Info About Mathematica for NSFIP Message-ID: <jamast00.742129697@mik.uky.edu> Keywords: Cheaper?? Sender: news@ms.uky.edu (USENET News System) Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences References: <C9Koov.FCr@news.iastate.edu> Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1993 11:08:17 GMT In <C9Koov.FCr@news.iastate.edu> tlm@feynman.scl.ameslab.gov (Dr. T. L. Marchioro II) writes: >Recently there has been some discussion about the availability of >Mathematica for NSFIP, with John Michopoulos (sorry if I got the spelling >wrong Yanni :) being kind enough to post that the price would be $1245 and >$995 academic. Personally, I consider these prices to be really "out of [Munch] >Finally, she said 2.2 for the NeXT should start shipping within a couple >of weeks (actually, she'd been told it would ship right after the 4th, >but cautioned me that "they usually miss those goals by a couple weeks." >Seems to be the golden rule of software :) Just read the other day in PC Week that Mathmatica Inc. has filed Chapter 11 protection from creditors. Guess those high prices kept paying customers away! Perhaps they will have the insight change their ways. -- John A. Mastrolia (Politically, Fashionably, and Aerodynamically Incorrect) jamast00@mik.uky.edu outland!jmast@ms.uky.edu University of Kentucky
From: lapj_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Rumplestiltskin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NASCORP's Order # for NS/FIP? Keywords: Academic Bundle NASCORP Message-ID: <1993Jul8.122837.18115@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> Date: 8 Jul 93 12:28:37 GMT Sender: news@galileo.cc.rochester.edu Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York I am trying to order a copy of NS/FIP but the usual NS academic distributor here doesn't go through NASCORP. He didn't even know about the academic package. I am sure that the bookstore here does work with NASCORP but they no longer distribute NeXTStuff. I saw posts a while ago that had the order number I could my bookstore for the academic bundle. Could some kind soul please send me that number? I foolishly thought the distribution channels here would be sufficient, and did not bother to write the number down. Thanks -Jason- Jason LaPierre University of Rochester lapj_ss@uhura.cc.rochester.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: vesely@next.heart.rri.uwo.ca (Ivan Vesely) Subject: Re: More Info About Mathematica for NSFIP Organization: University of Western Ontario Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1993 15:57:15 GMT Message-ID: <1993Jul8.155715.28856@julian.uwo.ca> References: <jamast00.742129697@mik.uky.edu> Sender: news@julian.uwo.ca (USENET News System) In article <jamast00.742129697@mik.uky.edu> jamast00@bigdaddy.mik.uky.edu (John A. Mastrolia) writes: > Just read the other day in PC Week that Mathmatica Inc. has filed Chapter 11 > protection from creditors. Guess those high prices kept paying customers > away! Perhaps they will have the insight change their ways. > Let's be clear about this. Is it "Wolfram Research" that has filed for Ch. 11? I've never heard of any "Mathematica Inc." Are you sure this is the right company? Let's not start any unsubstantiated rumours. -- Ivan Vesely, Electrical Engineering and Medical Biophysics University of Western Ontario, vesely@next.heart.rri.uwo.ca
From: isbell@cats.ucsc.edu (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Sybase libraries - Sybase server incompatibities in 3.1 Date: 8 Jul 1993 16:04:46 GMT Organization: Cubic Solutions - NeXT software development and consulting Message-ID: <21hgiuINNrae@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> References: <2127gtINNova@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> Keywords: Sybase, 3.1 In article <2127gtINNova@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> isbell@cats.ucsc.edu (Art Isbell) writes: > >Unfortunately, NeXT seems to have begun the process of dropping support for >black hardware already (what happened to 1995 ?-( > >NeXT fixed a number of significant Sybase adaptor bugs in 3.1. However, for >those of us running a Sybase server on black hardware, the new adaptor is >incompatible because it is linked against v.4.6 of the Sybase DBLib library >which won't run reliably against the old v.4.0 Sybase server running on black >hardware. NeXT mentions this in the 3.1 release notes. I have received private correspondence from NeXT indicating that my interpretation of the 3.1 release notes was not what NeXT intended. NeXT intended to warn against using new Sybase 4.6 features against a Sybase 4.0 database and states that the 3.1 Sybase adaptor is backward-compatible with Sybase 4.0 database servers. So NeXT has not begun dropping support for black hardware as it appeared. Therefore, the problems we have experienced should be considered bugs, not lack of support. However, the bottom line remains: the 3.1 Sybase adaptor cannot be reliably used with Sybase 4.0 database servers in our experience. Try these simple tests to determine whether you will have the same problems as we have seen: - Insert a new record with a duplicate key into a table on which a unique index exists on the key. After Sybase reports a "duplicate key" error, try to refetch data. Our experience is that the client app will then hang and must be killed. - Insert more than 256 characters into a Sybase text datatype data column. Repeatedly fetch this data. The client app should crash either on the save or on one of the subsequent fetches. The crash can occur immediately, or it may take several repeated fetches, but our experience indicates that crashing will eventually occur thus making the client app pretty unusable. - We have seen the following occur at 2 sites on 2 different occasions, but have not been able to reliably reproduce it. Run the 3.1 isql or possibly any other app linked against the Sybase 4.6 client libraries against a Sybase 4.0 database server. Concurrently, run a DBKit client app using the 3.1 Sybase adaptor against the same server. As long as another 4.6 app is running, data cannot be fetched using the DBKit app. As I indicated, I don't know the exact sequence of events or circumstances that leads to this problem, but if you suddenly cannot fetch data using your DBKit app, check whether any other 4.6 apps are accessing the server. We have produced a simple NEXTSTEP app (and sent it to NeXT) that demonstrates the first 2 bugs. By merely rerunning the same app using the 3.0 Sybase adaptor, the problems disappear. NeXT claims to have had only one other complaint about this apparent incompatibility between the 3.1 Sybase adaptor and the 4.0 Sybase server. If you experience similar problems (or any problems that you suspect result from this incompatibility), please report it to bug_next@next.com using BugNeXT.app so that NeXT can come up with a fix ASAP. -- Art Isbell Cubic Solutions NeXT Registered Developer NEXTSTEP software development and consulting NeXTmail: isbell@cats.UCSC.EDU Voice: (408)335-1154 USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: (408)335-2515
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: anderson (Ken Anderson) Subject: Re: Sybase from 2.x upgrade Message-ID: <1993Jul8.153649.5523@biztech.com> Sender: news@biztech.com Organization: Biztech, Inc. References: <1993Jul8.052450.1335@digifix.com> Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1993 15:36:49 GMT In article <1993Jul8.052450.1335@digifix.com> sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) writes: >Hi all... > > Well way back when I upgraded to 2.x I got a Sybase Limited Server (it >was with the educational stuff way back then). > > Is this something that I can use under 3.1 now with the DBKit? Do I >need to upgrade anything, or will it _just work_? > > >-- >- Scott Anguish - >sanguish@digifix.com (NextMail) >next-announce@digifix.com (comp.sys.next.announce submissions) The 5-user version of sybase from 2.x runs correctly under 3.x (obviously, only on NeXT hardware). Ken Anderson anderson@biztech.com Stamford, CT
From: zmonster@athena.mit.edu (Eric M Hermanson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NASCORP's Order # for NS/FIP? Date: 8 Jul 1993 16:47:10 GMT Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology Message-ID: <21hj2e$nc1@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> References: <1993Jul8.122837.18115@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> Keywords: Academic Bundle NASCORP In article <1993Jul8.122837.18115@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> lapj_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Rumplestiltskin) writes: > > I am trying to order a copy of NS/FIP but the usual NS academic distributor >order number I could my bookstore for the academic bundle. Could some kind >soul please send me that number? I foolishly thought the distribution >channels here would be sufficient, and did not bother to write the number down 1. Tell your campus store you want NEXTSTEP for Intel Processors 2. Tell your store to call NACSCORP at 1-800-321-3883 and place the order 3. Tell them to order the educational version (user + developer = $249) of NEXTSTEP (the NACSCORP id. number is ISBN #9301023296) -Eric
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: davis@sonata.cc.purdue.edu (Robert Davis) Subject: Re: Squash & 3.1 Message-ID: <C9ux4x.BD@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> Keywords: black h/w, Squash, 3.1 Sender: news@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (USENET News) Organization: Purdue University References: <1993Jul8.023136.1491@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1993 17:41:21 GMT In article <1993Jul8.023136.1491@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> raptor!rlove (Robert B. Love) writes: > >After I upgraded to 3.1 (black h/w) I find I can no longer drag 'n drop >onto Squash. Anybody else have this problem? Services still work, >luckily. > Well, I don't have Squash, but I can no longer drag things into Engage, either to add them to a dock or to open them with an application already in an Engage dock. This has happened since upgrading to 3.1. But I know Millenium has an upgrade of Engage in the works... Rob -- | Robert Davis davis@sonata.cc.purdue.edu | "Look up, Hannah." NeXT Mail accepted --
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: thf@zelator.in-berlin.de (Thomas Funke) Subject: Re: Help Displaying Weather Maps Message-ID: <1993Jul7.094102.982@gamelan> Sender: thomas@gamelan (thomas) Organization: Disorganization References: <21b91h$ck3@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1993 09:41:02 GMT In article <21b91h$ck3@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> gregory@brigham-circle.mit.edu (Greg Howland) writes: > I am trying to display the maps from the Weather.app. I get the undecoded gif files instead of a picture of a map. I have ViewGif2 placed in my Apps folder, I have typed make from that directory which produced this result: > > cc -O -g -Wall -c ViewBitmap.m -o obj/ViewBitmap.o > ViewBitmap.m: In method `setup' > ViewBitmap.m:108: `NX_ALLBUTTONS' undeclared (first use this function) > ViewBitmap.m:108: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once > ViewBitmap.m:108: for each function it appears in.) > *** Exit 1 > Stop. > *** Exit 1 > Stop. How about having a look in NeXTs documentation ? The constants NX_RESIZEBUTTONMASK and NX_ALLBUTTONS have been removed for 3.0. In place of using NX_RESIZEBUTTONMASK, you should create a window with style NX_RESIZEBARSTYLE. In place of NX_ALLBUTTONS you should use (NX_CLOSEBUTTONMASK|NX_MINIATURIZEBUTTONMASK). -- NewsGrazer, a NeXTstep(tm) news reader, posting -- M>UQR=&8P7&%N<VE[7&9O;G1T8FQ<9C!<9FUO9&5R;B!/:&QF<SM<9C%<9G-W M:7-S($AE;'9E=&EC83M<9C)<9FYI;"!4:6UE<RU2;VUA;CM<9C-<9FUO9&5R M;B!#;W5R:65R.WT*7&UA<F=L,3(P"EQM87)G<C$R,`I[7&-O;&]R=&)L.UQR M960P7&=R965N,%QB;'5E,#M]"EQP87)D7'1X,3$U,EQT>#(S,#1<='@S-#4V M7'1X-#8P.%QT>#4W-C!<='@V.3$R7'1X.#`V-%QT>#DR,39<='@Q,#,V.%QT M>#$Q-3(P7&8P7&(P7&DP7'5L;F]N95QF<S(T7&9C,%QC9C`@7`I<"DEN(&%R M=&EC;&4@/#(Q8CDQ:"1C:S-`<V5N871O<BUB961F96QL;W<N34E4+D5$53X@ M9W)E9V]R>4!B<FEG:&%M+6-I<F-L92YM:70N961U("A'<F5G($AO=VQA;F0I M('=R:71E<SI<"@I<<&%R9%QT>#!<='@Q,C@P7'1X,C4V,%QT>#,X-#!<='@U M,3(P7'1X-C0P,%QT>#<V.#!<='@X.38P7'1X,3`R-#!<='@Q,34R,%QT>#$R M.#`P7'1X,30P.#!<='@Q-3,V,%QT>#$V-C0P7'1X,3<Y,C!<='@Q.3(P,%QT M>#(P-#@P7'1X,C$W-C!<='@R,S`T,%QT>#(T,S(P7&9C,5QC9C$@7`H*7'!A M<F1<='@U,C!<='@Q,#8P7'1X,38P,%QT>#(Q,C!<='@R-C8P7'1X,S(P,%QT M>#,W,C!<='@T,C8P7'1X-#@P,%QT>#4S,C!<9C%<9F,P7&-F,"`^($D@86T@ M=')Y:6YG('1O(&1I<W!L87D@=&AE(&UA<',@9G)O;2!T:&4@5V5A=&AE<BYA M<'`N($D@9V5T('1H92!U;F1E8V]D960@9VEF(&9I;&5S(&EN<W1E860@;V8@ M82!P:6-T=7)E(&]F(&$@;6%P+B!)(&AA=F4@5FEE=T=I9C(@<&QA8V5D(&EN M(&UY($%P<',@9F]L9&5R+"!)(&AA=F4@='EP960@;6%K92!F<F]M('1H870@ M9&ER96-T;W)Y('=H:6-H('!R;V1U8V5D('1H:7,@<F5S=6QT.EP*/B!<"CX@ M("`@("!C8R`@+4\@+6<@+5=A;&P@("UC(%9I97=":71M87`N;2`M;R!O8FHO M5FEE=T)I=&UA<"YO7`H^("`@("`@5FEE=T)I=&UA<"YM.B!);B!M971H;V0@ M8'-E='5P)UP*/B`@("`@(%9I97=":71M87`N;3HQ,#@Z(&!.6%]!3$Q"5514 M3TY3)R!U;F1E8VQA<F5D("AF:7)S="!U<V4@=&AI<R!F=6YC=&EO;BE<"CX@ M("`@("!6:65W0FET;6%P+FTZ,3`X.B`H16%C:"!U;F1E8VQA<F5D(&ED96YT M:69I97(@:7,@<F5P;W)T960@;VYL>2!O;F-E7`H^("`@("`@5FEE=T)I=&UA M<"YM.C$P.#H@9F]R(&5A8V@@9G5N8W1I;VX@:70@87!P96%R<R!I;BXI7`H^ M("`@("`@*BHJ($5X:70@,5P*/B`@("`@(%-T;W`N7`H^("`@("`@*BHJ($5X M:70@,5P*/B`@("`@(%-T;W`N7`I<"@I<8B!(;W<@86)O=70@:&%V:6YG(&$@ M;&]O:R!I;B!.95A4<R!D;V-U;65N=&%T:6]N(#]<"@I<8C`@7`H*7'!A<F1< M='@P7'1X,3@P,%QT>#(Q-C!<='@R-30P7'1X,C@X,%QT>#<Y,C!<9C)<9G,R M.%QF:2TS-C!<;&DQ.#`P7&9C,5QC9C$@MPE4:&4@8V]N<W1A;G1S(`I<9C-< M8B!.6%]215-)6D5"55143TY-05-+"EQF,EQB,"`@86YD(`I<9C-<8B!.6%]! M3$Q"55143TY3"EQF,EQB,"`@:&%V92!B965N(')E;6]V960@9F]R(#,N,"X@ M($EN('!L86-E(&]F('5S:6YG(`I<9C-<8B!.6%]215-)6D5"55143TY-05-+ M"EQF,EQB,"`L('EO=2!S:&]U;&0@8W)E871E(&$@=VEN9&]W('=I=&@@<W1Y M;&4@"EQF,UQB($Y87U)%4TE:14)!4E-464Q%"EQF,EQB,"`N($EN('!L86-E M(&]F(`I<9C-<8B!.6%]!3$Q"55143TY3"EQF,EQB,"`@>6]U('-H;W5L9"!U M<V4@*`I<9C-<8B!.6%]#3$]314)55%1/3DU!4TM\3EA?34E.24%455))6D5" M55143TY-05-+"EQF,EQB,"`I+EP*"EQP87)D7'1X,3$U,EQT>#(S,#1<='@S M-#4V7'1X-#8P.%QT>#4W-C!<='@V.3$R7'1X.#`V-%QT>#DR,39<='@Q,#,V 7.%QT>#$Q-3(P7&9C,5QC9C$@7`H*?0HR ` -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Thomas Funke ** Unix-Consultant ** thf@zelator.in-berlin.de The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from. -- Andrew S. Tanenbaum
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software From: brad%raven@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca (Brad Nelson) Subject: SLIP configuration problem. Message-ID: <1993Jul8.180251.4828@shunda.uucp> Sender: brad@shunda.uucp (Brad Nelson) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1993 18:02:51 GMT I'm trying to connect my cube at home up to the local campus net using TransSys SLIP, with only limited success. My biggest problem seems to be that if I try to telnet (rlogin, ftp, whatever) any machine other than the slip server, no packets ever get sent out over the slip link. The same seems to happen when someone tries to get a my machine from somewhere on campus. Anyone care to offer some suggestions? I've been through the docs about 5 times, reinstalled, torn half my hair out, and am just on the verge of giving up entirely, or maybe going to Marble Teleconnect or something. Should I be running routed or something? Help! -- -Brad brad%shunda@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca bradley@cs.ualberta.ca
From: cedman@golem.ps.uci.edu (Carl Edman) Subject: Re: .z files versus .Z files Message-ID: <CEDMAN.93Jul8115251@golem.uci.edu> In-reply-to: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU's message of Thu, 8 Jul 1993 06:19:04 GMT Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software References: <20se8vINNhvb@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu> <neuss.741966085@ramazzotti> <1993Jul8.061904.27781@csus.edu> Date: 8 Jul 93 18:52:54 GMT In article <1993Jul8.061904.27781@csus.edu> eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) writes: In article <neuss.741966085@ramazzotti> neuss@igd.fhg.de (Christian Neuss ) writes: >Hm.. in th "Old Days" (TM), the .z extension used to stand for a >compressor called "pack".. those files had to be "unpack"ed. When >"compress" was developped, the use of "pack" was no longer encouraged. The vast majority of UNIX systems on the planet still use pack (which unquestionably does not violate anyone's intellectual property rights) and .z is RESERVED for this format. If you have a version of gzip that generates .z (rather than .gz) files, it is *defective* and should be replaced with the current GNU version. (Note that while gzip will *read* a variety of compressed formats--including proper .z files--its output should be considered proprietary.) The vast majority of the UNIX system on the planet ? Surely, you must be joking, Mr Scott. In the past decade of intensive ftping to literarily many thousand sites and transfering millions of files totaling countless gigabytes of data, I've seen many sights strange to the eye of man, but I can't recall _ever_ having seen one single file with a '.z' suffix which was packed. What archaic SysVism do you want us to bow to next ? Limit your filenames to 14, and identifiers to 6 characters or face the wrath of EPS ! In no case should you place a gzipped file with a .z suffix on an anonymous FTP site--this will only serve to create extreme confusion and resentment. Unfortunately the FSF has knuckled under to the pressure of some retrograde elements and changed the gzip suffix to .gz hence rendering a large number of real (instead of hypothetical) files incompatible. That was a silly thing to do, but now it can't be helped any longer. So put '.gz' suffices on your gzip files but don't forget to curse the memory of pack every time you do. Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: magnus@fisher.Stanford.EDU (Magnus Nordborg) Subject: Re: Squash & 3.1 Message-ID: <1993Jul8.192106.19052@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: DSO, Stanford University References: <1993Jul8.023136.1491@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> Date: Thu, 8 Jul 93 19:21:06 GMT In article <1993Jul8.023136.1491@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> raptor!rlove (Robert B. Love ) writes: > After I upgraded to 3.1 (black h/w) I find I can no longer drag 'n drop > onto Squash. Anybody else have this problem? Services still work, > luckily. > > -- > > Bob Love rlove@raptor.rmnug (NeXT Mail OK) > BIX: rlove I have Squash and 3.1. Everything works fine here. -- Magnus Nordborg magnus@fisher.stanford.edu (NeXT mail preferred) Department of Biological Sciences Stanford University Stanford, CA 94305-5020 +1 (415) 723-4952 (office)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: rngu@mipos2.intel.com (Robert Ngu) Subject: Info needed on need for SVGA cards Message-ID: <C9tC0x.7ny@inews.intel.com> Sender: news@inews.intel.com (USENET News System) Organization: Intel Corporation, Santa Clara, CA USA Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1993 21:07:45 GMT Hi, I was wondering if anyone out there can tell me if using a hi-res SVGA card actually makes a difference besides visually. A screen with 1024x768 resolution is much more pleasant to look at than 2-bit grayscale with a generic VGA but does it actually test a different part of NextStep? If so, what kind of code does it execute differently to display on a hi-res SVGA card? Are there any apps out there that require a hi-res VGA card to run? Thanks in advance, Bob Ngu P/S: I am using an Intel-based machine if that makes a difference.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software From: rngu@mipos2.intel.com (Robert Ngu) Subject: support for AHA1742 Message-ID: <C9v68L.LIn@inews.intel.com> Sender: news@inews.intel.com (USENET News System) Organization: Intel Corporation, Santa Clara, CA USA Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1993 20:57:56 GMT Hi, Can anyone tell me if support for the Adaptec 1742 SCSI controller is available yet? It is planned for R3.2 due to come out sometime in Sept??? I have a need for it now, so I would appreciate any info. THanks, Bob
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: eboltz@acoustica.mrd.bldrdoc.gov (Eric S. Boltz) Subject: Good, Free Perfmon Message-ID: <C9v6qM.BB7@dove.nist.gov> Sender: news@dove.nist.gov Organization: NIST Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1993 21:08:46 GMT I'm looking for a freeware perf. monitor like KPerfmon but without the growing swapfile. LoadEye looks decent, but isn't free. thanks in advance, Eric -- Eric S. Boltz, M.S.E. *eboltz@nist.gov* Materials Research Engineer eboltz@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu National Institute of Standards and Technology NeXTMail Accepted (Ph.D. Candidate, Johns Hopkins University) My views, opinions and statements in no way reflect those of the U.S. Gov't, the U.S. Department of Commerce or NIST.
From: treed@bmt.gun.com (Timothy Reed) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Sybase from 2.x upgrade... NOT Date: 8 Jul 1993 18:21:50 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <199307082321.AA05566@friday> The old Sybase SQL server and the new 3.1 Sybase adaptor do not work together. This has obvious implications for developers considering an OS upgrade... The 4.6 Sybase DB Client and the DBKit adaptor do not work with the NeXT-based Sybase SQL server. The solution for non-DBKit applications is to link against the version of libdb.a that came with NEXTSTEP 2.1 (probably the one with 3.0 but as well but my local Sybase god advises to stick with the original library). DBKit developers have a Hobson's choice: use the very buggy NEXTSTEP 3.0 Sybase adaptor with your NeXT-based SQL server or use the 3.1 adaptor with a non-NeXT-based 4.9 SQL server on another hardware platform. IMHO: two versions of the adaptor are needed from NeXT - one linked against the old 4.0 DB Client for use with the 4.0.2 NeXT SQL server, and one linked against the new 4.6 DB Client for use with non-NeXT-based SQL servers. Tim --- Tim Reed, Black Market Technologies Voice: +1 718 522-5090 Fax: +1 718 852-4249 E-mail: treed@bmt.gun.com "Written documentation is an admission of failure." In comp.sys.next.software article <1993Jul8.153649.5523@biztech.com> you wrote: > In article <1993Jul8.052450.1335@digifix.com> sanguish@digifix.com (Scott > Anguish) writes: > > > > Well way back when I upgraded to 2.x I got a Sybase Limited Server > (it > >was with the educational stuff way back then). > > > > Is this something that I can use under 3.1 now with the DBKit? Do > I > >need to upgrade anything, or will it _just work_? > > > > The 5-user version of sybase from 2.x runs correctly under 3.x (obviously, > only on NeXT hardware). >
From: matthews@is-next.umd.edu (Mike Matthews) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Squash & 3.1 Date: 8 Jul 1993 23:29:56 GMT Organization: University Of Maryland, College Park, MD Message-ID: <21ialk$f9i@umd5.umd.edu> References: <1993Jul8.023136.1491@nugget.rmnug.org> Keywords: black h/w, Squash, 3.1 In article <1993Jul8.023136.1491@nugget.rmnug.org> raptor!rlove (Robert B. Love ) writes: >After I upgraded to 3.1 (black h/w) I find I can no longer drag 'n drop >onto Squash. Anybody else have this problem? Services still work, >luckily. It's also rather difficult to drag 'n drop onto Engage!. I seem to remember a promised 3.0 version, but never got it... wonder if Jayson's busy on the 3.1 version? >Bob Love ------ Mike Matthews, matthewm@sgate.com (NeXTmail accepted) ------ A celebrity is a person who is known for his well-knownness.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: fermat@fermat.dartmouth.edu (Michael Glenn) Subject: Re: .z files versus .Z files Message-ID: <C9vC2A.AL@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> Sender: news@dartvax.dartmouth.edu (The News Manager) Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH References: <CEDMAN.93Jul8115251@golem.uci.edu> Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1993 23:03:45 GMT I think it is most ironic to mention that gunzip/zcat will recognize and uncompress "pack" files. Switching to gzip does not in anyway whatsoever take away your ability to uncompress these archaic files. Michael (NeXTMail please!)
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: .z files versus .Z files Date: 9 Jul 1993 03:08:51 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <21ing3$20b@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <CEDMAN.93Jul8115251@golem.uci.edu> cedman@golem.ps.uci.edu (Carl Edman) writes: > eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) writes: > In no case should you place a gzipped file with a .z suffix on > an anonymous FTP site--this will only serve to create extreme > confusion and resentment. > > Unfortunately the FSF has knuckled under to the pressure of some > retrograde elements and changed the gzip suffix to .gz hence rendering > a large number of real (instead of hypothetical) files incompatible. > That was a silly thing to do, but now it can't be helped any longer. > So put '.gz' suffices on your gzip files but don't forget to curse the > memory of pack every time you do. No, curse the memory of the person who felt that it was somehow critically important to reuse .z for gzip. There never was any good reason to go with the .z suffix. The confusion caused by reusing the suffix was not worth whatever benefits people imagined would occur by having a one-character suffix instead of a two-character suffix. We certainly had a number of people here at RPI who downloaded files multiple times because they thought there was a file transfer error when the ".z" file couldn't be unpacked. Now maybe the hours they wasted on such pointless retransmissions didn't come out of your hide so that it was OK with you, but I was certainly tired of seeing people go thru hassles like that for no, and I mean *NO* good reason. And I'm talking about real (not hypothetical) problems which were caused for real (not hypothetical) users which wasted real (not hypothetical) time getting them really (not hypothetically) frustrated. The FSF "knuckled under" because the *original* decision was the silly one. Gzip itself is pretty good, of course. I just don't buy any of the arguments for the .z suffix. Once I get NS3.1 installed, I'll be replacing the distributed gzip (which I was happy to see there, btw) with a version that uses the much less contentious suffix. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Good, Free Perfmon Date: 9 Jul 1993 03:52:18 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <21iq1j$3h4@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <C9v6qM.BB7@dove.nist.gov> eboltz@acoustica.mrd.bldrdoc.gov (Eric S. Boltz) writes: > > I'm looking for a freeware perf. monitor like KPerfmon but without > the growing swapfile. LoadEye looks decent, but isn't free. I'll send a message to Eric, but for the benefit of everyone else I'd like to note that there's a newer version of KPerfMon which includes a fix for the bug that caused the ever-growing swapfile. In fact, there's two versions available. One has just that bug fixed and runs under NeXTSTEP 2.1, and the other one has that bug fixed and a few other improvements (but requires NeXTSTEP 3.0). The version that requires NS3.0 is, I believe, on sonata and cs.orst.edu. It should say something about being version 1.2 of KPerfMon. If you need the version that runs under NeXTSTEP 2.1, it's available via anon FTO tp on my own machine, eclipse.its.rpi.edu. It's in directory NeXT/NS2.0, files KPerfMon1.0VM.tar.Z and KPerfMon1.0VM.README If you are running NS3.0 or greater, get version 1.2 of KPerfMon from the standard archives. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bff@teal.csn.org (Brendan Forsyth) Subject: DNS Problem Message-ID: <C9vpBH.B9s@csn.org> Sender: news@csn.org (The Daily Planet) Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc. Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1993 03:50:04 GMT I am in the process of configuring my NSTC for DNS, but am experiencing the following problem. I downloaded the root-services.txt file from NIC.DDN.MIL , but when I try to cache this file it complains about the keyword 'BIND' that terminates each line of the servers. (Unknown database type) Anybody know the proper syntax that NeXT will understand? Thanks Brendan PS. I am using Nutshell's BIND and DNS book as a guide. There is a reference to configuring the NEXT as a secondary server in the SysAdmin bookshelf but it does not give an example of this file.
From: treed@bmt.gun.com (Timothy Reed) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: CLARIFICATION: Re: Sybase from 2.x upgrade... NOT Date: 8 Jul 1993 23:40:28 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <199307090439.AA05751@friday> Recently I posted an article relating problems with 4.6 Sybase DB Client and the 4.0.2 Sybase SQL server. The problem with writing applications in 3.1 against the old SQL server that came with Nextstep is not in the adaptor but in the db client code you link with. You can use the 3.1 Sybase adaptor with a NeXT-based 4.0.2 SQL server if you link your application against the libsybdb.a that came with NEXTSTEP 3.0. Just don't use the version that came with 3.1 - it probably won't work unless you're using a more recent version of the dataserver than 4.0.2. Attention NeXT: in order for your customer base to maintain compatibility with the old SQL server that shipped with NEXTSTEP, you need to include both the old 4.0.2 as well as the new 4.6 versions of libsybdb.a. That way all us developers of mission-critical custom apps can keep working in the financial markets where Sybase is king! Just wanted to make all that clear. Tim --- Tim Reed, Black Market Technologies "Reading documentation is an admission of failure." >The 4.6 Sybase DB Client and the DBKit adaptor do not work with >the NeXT-based Sybase SQL server. The solution for non-DBKit >applications is to link against the version of libdb.a that came >with NEXTSTEP 2.1 (probably the one with 3.0 but as well but my >local Sybase god advises to stick with the original library). >DBKit developers have a Hobson's choice: use the very buggy NEXTSTEP >3.0 Sybase adaptor with your NeXT-based SQL server or use the 3.1 >adaptor with a non-NeXT-based 4.9 SQL server on another hardware >platform.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: tlm@tantalus.scl.ameslab.gov (Dr. T. L. Marchioro II) Subject: Re: More Info About Mathematica for NSFIP Message-ID: <C9vv3o.8Iv@news.iastate.edu> Sender: news@news.iastate.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA References: <1993Jul8.155715.28856@julian.uwo.ca> Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1993 05:55:00 GMT Ivan Vesely writes []In article <jamast00.742129697@mik.uky.edu> jamast00@bigdaddy.mik.uky.edu (John []A. Mastrolia) writes: [] []> Just read the other day in PC Week that Mathmatica Inc. has filed Chapter 11 []> protection from creditors. Guess those high prices kept paying customers []> away! Perhaps they will have the insight change their ways. []> []Let's be clear about this. Is it "Wolfram Research" that has filed for Ch. 11? []I've never heard of any "Mathematica Inc." Are you sure this is the right []company? Let's not start any unsubstantiated rumours. []-- []Ivan Vesely, Electrical Engineering and Medical Biophysics []University of Western Ontario, vesely@next.heart.rri.uwo.ca WRI is doing just fine thank you! No Chapter 11, no vanishing in the middle of the night like Neuron Inc. etc. etc. I do not know what Mathematica Inc. does (did?) but they are totally unrelated to WRI. I think there is even a mention of this fact in the Mathematica book. (Incidentally, no "blowing steam" here, I was talking to someone at WRI this afternoon and she swore up down and sideways they are doing fine). Hope this helps --- Tom -- Dr. Thomas L. Marchioro II Two-wheeled theoretical physicist Center for Physical and Computational Mathematics 515-294-6629 Ames Laboratory 515-233-1216 (home) Ames, Iowa 50011 tlm@iastate.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: tlm@tantalus.scl.ameslab.gov (Dr. T. L. Marchioro II) Subject: Re: Good, Free Perfmon Message-ID: <C9vvBB.8KM@news.iastate.edu> Sender: news@news.iastate.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA References: <C9v6qM.BB7@dove.nist.gov> Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1993 05:59:34 GMT Eric S. Boltz writes [] []I'm looking for a freeware perf. monitor like KPerfmon but without the []growing swapfile. LoadEye looks decent, but isn't free. [] []thanks in advance, Uh, which OS are you running? The KPerfMon I have (running under NS 3.0) has no problems with the swapfile (why? Because Andrew Loewenstern and Garance Drosehn were nice enough to fix a few bugs in Kenny's *wonderful* little app). Would be glad to NeXTmail you a copy, but again, it runs under *3.0* not 2.X. Tom -- Dr. Thomas L. Marchioro II Two-wheeled theoretical physicist Center for Physical and Computational Mathematics 515-294-6629 Ames Laboratory 515-233-1216 (home) Ames, Iowa 50011 tlm@iastate.edu
From: doko@cs.tu-berlin.de (Matthias Klose) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Bug in GNU find 3.8 ? Date: 09 Jul 93 08:50:26 GMT Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <21j803$mv5@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit find / -print does not descend in other file systems although the -xdev option is not specified (the fs is NOT a nfs mount). This happens with NS3.0 with cc, gcc 2.4.[35], compiled with and without -O (works correctly on SunOS 4.1, Ultrix ?.?). A workaround is to give find all mount points in the path. Could somebody verfify this on his machine (any version of NS)? Thank you, Matthias
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mihe@gordon.enea.se (Mike Henry) Subject: Re: .z files versus .Z files Message-ID: <1993Jul9.075334.25154@enea.se> Sender: usenet@enea.se Organization: ENEA DATA AB, Stockholm, Sweden References: <20se8vINNhvb@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu> <neuss.741966085@ramazzotti> <1993Jul8.061904.27781@csus.edu> <CEDMAN.93Jul8115251@golem.uci.edu> Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1993 07:53:34 GMT In article <CEDMAN.93Jul8115251@golem.uci.edu> cedman@golem.ps.uci.edu (Carl Edman) writes: >The vast majority of the UNIX system on the planet ? Surely, you must >be joking, Mr Scott. In the past decade of intensive ftping to >literarily many thousand sites and transfering millions of files >totaling countless gigabytes of data, I've seen many sights strange to >the eye of man, but I can't recall _ever_ having seen one single file >with a '.z' suffix which was packed. > > ... > >Unfortunately the FSF has knuckled under to the pressure of some >retrograde elements and changed the gzip suffix to .gz hence rendering >a large number of real (instead of hypothetical) files incompatible. >That was a silly thing to do, but now it can't be helped any longer. >So put '.gz' suffices on your gzip files but don't forget to curse the >memory of pack every time you do. Hear, hear!! > Carl Edman -Mike -- Mike Henry INET : mihe@enea.se /// Box 232 /// S-183 23 Taby TEL : +46 8 792-2500 \\\/// SWEDEN TFX : +46 8 768-4388 \XX/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Karl_Kraft@ensuing.com Subject: Re: More Info About Mathematica for NSFIP Message-ID: <C9w1px.24o@ensuing.com> Sender: karl@ensuing.com (Karl Kraft) Organization: Ensuing Technologies Inc. References: <1993Jul8.155715.28856@julian.uwo.ca> Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1993 08:17:56 GMT In article <1993Jul8.155715.28856@julian.uwo.ca> vesely@next.heart.rri.uwo.ca (Ivan Vesely) writes: > In article <jamast00.742129697@mik.uky.edu> > jamast00@bigdaddy.mik.uky.edu (John A. Mastrolia) writes: > > > Just read the other day in PC Week that Mathmatica Inc. has filed Chapter 11 > > protection from creditors. Guess those high prices kept paying customers > > away! Perhaps they will have the insight change their ways. > > Let's be clear about this. Is it "Wolfram Research" > that has filed for Ch. 11? I've never heard of any > "Mathematica Inc." Are you sure this is the right > company? Let's not start any unsubstantiated rumours. Why not, isn't that the charter of the Internet? -- _________ Karl Kraft Karl_Kraft@ensuing.com (NeXT mail)
From: k0s8160@chenext1.tamu.edu (Kenji Seto) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Nexs Grazer problems Date: 9 Jul 1993 12:26:51 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX Message-ID: <21jo6b$pp7@tamsun.tamu.edu> Greetings, I am running NewsGrazer (ver 72.2), and it has been working fine for months. Today, when I tried to read rec.food.cooking the application just dies, disappears, completely quits. I don't seem to have this problem with any other news group. I have tried reading this group on two other NeXTs (stations & turbos) and it happens on all machines repeatedly. Has anyone had a similar problem? Has my copy been corrupted in some way? I am going to try to get another from the FTP sites. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, -Kenji
From: k0s8160@chenext1.tamu.edu (Kenji Seto) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: NewsGrazer problems, addenum Date: 9 Jul 1993 12:36:54 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX Message-ID: <21jop6$qeh@tamsun.tamu.edu> I just downloaded v72.3 from sonata and it does the same thing. -Kenji
From: madler@cco.caltech.edu (Mark Adler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: .z files versus .Z files Date: 9 Jul 1993 14:08:22 GMT Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena Distribution: world Message-ID: <21ju4mINNlnk@gap.caltech.edu> References: <CEDMAN.93Jul8115251@golem.uci.edu> <21ing3$20b@usenet.rpi.edu> >> No, curse the memory of the person who felt that it was somehow critically >> important to reuse .z for gzip. No one felt it was critically important. What happened was that .z was picked and already in use before it was pointed out that the suffix had been used before for pack. A compromise was to have gzip able to decompress the old pack .z files. In other words, it was not felt critically important to change the .z at that time just because of pack. However, the compromise was not sufficient, and as usual the loud won and the suffix was changed to .gz, which has now introduced probably more confusion, since there are .z and .gz files out there, both made by gzip. (I have never ever seen a .z on an archive made by pack.) Anyway, gzip still recognizes the .z files, so there is still one answer to the question as to what those files are, which is "get gzip". Both the suffix .z and the name gzip were unfortunate choices, but these sorts of things are difficult to avoid, and probably inevitable in the infinite-number-of-flavors world of Unix. Mark Adler madler@cco.caltech.edu
From: k0s8160@chenext1.tamu.edu (Kenji Seto) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: NewsGrazer problems, cure for the problem Date: 9 Jul 1993 15:52:58 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX Message-ID: <21k48q$gdl@tamsun.tamu.edu> References: <21jop6$qeh@tamsun.tamu.edu> The recent problem I had with NewsGrazer arose from the fact that someone made a posting in the newsgroup, rec.food.cooking that had some sort of offending subject line that caused NewsGrazer to instantly crash. By restarting NewsGrazer repeatedly, and editing my .newsrc file I have determined that the offending article is somewhere between 42818 and 42838. The quick fix solution is to just hit [catch-up] before it gets to reading the subject line. I hope that the author of the code will try to investigate further. -Kenji
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: trebels@desdemona.theo-phys.gwdg.de (Stephan Trebels) Subject: Re: .z files versus .Z files Message-ID: <4O8EBYAU@gwdu03.gwdg.de> Sender: news@gwdu03.gwdg.de (USENET News System) Organization: GWDG, Goettingen References: <1993Jul8.061904.27781@csus.edu> Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1993 19:13:56 GMT Hi, normally I agree with EPS's posts, but this time there should be an answer! > In article <neuss.741966085@ramazzotti> neuss@igd.fhg.de > (Christian Neuss ) writes: > >Hm.. in th "Old Days" (TM), the .z extension used to stand for a > >compressor called "pack".. those files had to be "unpack"ed. When > >"compress" was developped, the use of "pack" was no longer encouraged. BTW, I agree > The vast majority of UNIX systems on the planet still use pack OOPS, most of them *have* pack, but be honest, have you ever seen anybody use it? I never saw anyone. compress is standard, ok, but who ever used pack in the last five years? Even more important, why should someone ever want to create pack files *today*? > (which unquestionably does not violate anyone's intellectual > property rights) and .z is RESERVED for this format. Do you propose any extension ever used by any wide spread program should be reserved? I think, .z has become free as it is no longer being created. I followed the discussion whether .z or .gz should be used, and I agree that .gz is better. We just differ why .gz is better. In my opinion the only flaw in .z is, that some non-U*ix systems are case-insensitive, so compress and gzip had the same extension there. > In no case should you place a gzipped file with a .z suffix on an > anonymous FTP site--this will only serve to create extreme > confusion and resentment. Not to me, and not to anyone I know. Ciao, Stephan -- +--------------------------------------------------------------+ / Stephan Trebels voice: +49 551 44690 /| +--------------------------------------------------------------+ | | <trebels@theo-phys.gwdg.de> "No NeXTmail yet, it's a HP" | + | <trebels@desdemona.theo-phys.gwdg.de> "NeXTmail welcome" |/ +--------------------------------------------------------------+
Message-ID: <eq$@byu.edu> Date: Fri, 9 Jul 93 13:45:10 MDT From: yackd@wyoming.et.byu.edu (Don Yacktman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Distribution: world References: <1993Jul8.061904.27781@csus.edu> <4O8EBYAU@gwdu03.gwdg.de> Organization: Brigham Young University, Provo UT USA Subject: Re: .z files versus .Z files I saw this question and couldn't resist being a smart-***: In article <4O8EBYAU@gwdu03.gwdg.de>, trebels@desdemona.theo-phys.gwdg.de (Stephan Trebels) writes: > > The vast majority of UNIX systems on the planet still use pack >OOPS, most of them *have* pack, but be honest, have you ever >seen anybody use it? I never saw anyone. compress is standard, ok, >but who ever used pack in the last five years? Me! :-) I actually have. Turns out that one of our systems here stores some of the man pages as pack files to save space. You wouldn't believe how long it took me to figure out what they were. (This is how I learned about pack for the first time.) So I have used it to install page on this system. By the way, the system has been sold as scrap since I used pack on it... :-) And this use of pack almost falls outside of your five-year range. :-) :-) >Even more important, >why should someone ever want to create pack files *today*? Beats me! Why bother when gzip and compress both do a better job and very few people -- until this thread -- knew about pack anyway. When I first saw the .z extensions on ftp sites, I wondered why on earth _anybody_ was using pack. Didn't take too long to figure out that they were gzip files, though... I still feel .gz is better, though, for the reason you state. The case insensitivity really causes problems with the VMS machines, since they think it's a compress file... (If you always use gzip to decompress, though, it makes no difference anyway. It's just that you have to get everyone to switch to it...) I've never seen a pack file anywhere except for what I mention above. Let's start a "get rid of 'pack'" campaign! :-) Later, Don_Yacktman@byu.edu -- Don_Yacktman@byu.edu Nepotism is a relative thing.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software From: marshall@software.org (Eric Marshall) Subject: Subclassing Matrix to use different sized cells? Message-ID: <1993Jul9.200752.20386@software.org> Sender: usenet@software.org (Usenet News/Mail Support) Organization: Software Productivity Consortium, Herndon, Virginia Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1993 20:07:52 GMT Has anyone out there subclassed Matrix to use different sized cells? I'd appreciate code samples of this :-) Thanks in advance. Eric Marshall Software Productivity Consortium SPC Building 2214 Rock Hill Road Herndon, VA 22070 (703) 742-7153 marshall@software.org
From: stoney@oyster.smcm.edu (Stanley Toney) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: newsgrazer Date: 9 Jul 1993 20:36:15 GMT Organization: University of Maryland, College Park Message-ID: <21kkrv$shq@umd5.umd.edu> References: <1993Jul1.183247.3761@wuecl.wustl.edu> In article <1993Jul1.183247.3761@wuecl.wustl.edu> hussain@artsci.wustl.edu (G. H. Chinoy) writes: >In article <1993Jun29.180555.21@vax.nwc.com> writes: >> >> >> When I try to let some other users run NewsGrazer, they keep getting prompted >> for the connection info. Where's this stuff stored, and why cant' they get at >> it? I don't mind running the config for each of them, but it won't even keep >> that info. They get prompted EVERY time they try to start it. >> >-- We've just gotten a newsfeed & I don't know how to make the newsgrazer app >check our local newsserver? I guess it's a similar problem to that of Mr. >Hall's. Anyone? Anyone? > easy meun item info, sub item preferences. choose Configuration from the pull bar at the top. second line is the place for the name of your newsfeed server. click ok and you should be set. -- Stanley Toney stoney@oyster.smcm.edu NeXTMail - OK Division of Mathematics and Natural Sciences St. Mary's College of Maryland St. Marys City MD 20686 my opinions are my own, not my employers
From: dav@sdphu1.ucsd.edu (David A Schurig) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: What CD-ROM discs are available for NeXT? Date: 9 Jul 1993 21:40:49 GMT Organization: Physics Department, UCSD Distribution: world Message-ID: <21kol1INN7nd@network.ucsd.edu> I see a lot of interesting CD-ROM titles in Mac ads. Can they be used on the NeXT? I am contemplating a drive purchase for my NeXTStation. dav
From: npratt@gecko.modsys (Nevin Pratt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: More Info About Mathematica for NSFIP Date: 9 Jul 1993 21:02:49 GMT Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <21kmdp$r5n@cnn.sim.es.com> References: <jamast00.742129697@mik.uky.edu> In article 742129697@mik.uky.edu, jamast00@bigdaddy.mik.uky.edu (John A. Mastrolia) writes: > Just read the other day in PC Week that Mathmatica Inc. has filed Chapter 11 > protection from creditors. Guess those high prices kept paying customers > away! Perhaps they will have the insight change their ways. Mathematica, Inc. is not Wolfram Research, Inc. Nevin
From: npratt@gecko.modsys (Nevin Pratt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: More Info About Mathematica for NSFIP Date: 9 Jul 1993 22:03:20 GMT Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <21kpv8$r5n@cnn.sim.es.com> References: <1993Jul8.155715.28856@julian.uwo.ca> In article 28856@julian.uwo.ca, vesely@next.heart.rri.uwo.ca (Ivan Vesely) writes: > In article <jamast00.742129697@mik.uky.edu> jamast00@bigdaddy.mik.uky.edu (John > A. Mastrolia) writes: > > > Just read the other day in PC Week that Mathmatica Inc. has filed Chapter 11 > > protection from creditors. Guess those high prices kept paying customers > > away! Perhaps they will have the insight change their ways. > > > Let's be clear about this. Is it "Wolfram Research" that has filed for Ch. 11? > I've never heard of any "Mathematica Inc." Are you sure this is the right > company? Let's not start any unsubstantiated rumours. Yes, there is a "Mathematica, Inc." And, yes, it is an entirely different company. "Mathematica, Inc." is not "Wolfram Research", and "Wolfram Research" is the company that sells the Mathematica program. Pretty confusing, isn't it? Nevin
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc From: gery@ares.fdn.org (Gery Divry) Subject: ARES announces ZZVolume version 1.4 for NEXTSTEP 3.1 Message-ID: <1993Jul9.231841.28553@arakis.fdn.org> Sender: news@arakis.fdn.org Organization: ARES - Lyon, France. Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1993 23:18:41 GMT News For more information, contact: ARES +33 72 80 16 30 +33 72 80 16 32 fax zz@ares.fdn.org USA: Alembic Systems, Inc (303)799-6223 (303)799-1435 fax infos@alembic.com FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE LYON , France, the 25 of June 1993 : ARES announces the availability of ZZVolume version 1.4 for NEXTSTEP 3.1 Motorola and Intel with new prices. ZZVOLUME NEW PUBLIC PRICES (Prices are in USD, taxes excluded). Retail Price : 1995 $ Education Price : 998 $ Prices subject to change without notice. Taxes, shipping and handling charges are additional, and vary with the size of your order. ZZVolume (TM) is the first architectural CAD program available on NEXTSTEP. As a powerfull modelisation tool, ZZVolume enable to create 3D spaces at an incredible speed - including entire buildings - and to virtualy tour the spaces you create. As a professional tool for architects, interior designers, booth designers, facilities managers, and anyone who needs to quikly plan and present space, ZZVolume is indispensable. Features Included: - Multiples support for importation and exportation including 2D and 3D DXF-Autocad , EPS, export RIB formats to Solid Thinking (TM), Datalink to intuitiv'3D (TM). - Wireframe,shadows, Postscript vectorial hidden faces with or without edge rendering, direct Renderman connexion . - All transformation, creation and connexions benefits of real CAD precision and can be done in any view, even perspective view. - Multiple Views, Multi Layering (up to 4000 layers in a project), User definable tool palette. - Support for walls (blocks), polylines, splines, circles, openings, objects and automatic sized frames and sashes. Features in development : - Animation (walk through your house). - Light directly included in objects - Connexion to database ZZVolume features interactivity like you wouldn't believe....... Please contact ARES or Alembic for any informations
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) Subject: Re: .z files versus .Z files Message-ID: <1993Jul10.080507.23276@csus.edu> Sender: news@csus.edu Organization: San Francisco State University References: <1993Jul8.061904.27781@csus.edu> <4O8EBYAU@gwdu03.gwdg.de> <eq$@byu.edu> Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1993 08:05:07 GMT In article <eq$@byu.edu> yackd@wyoming.et.byu.edu (Don Yacktman) writes: > Why bother when gzip and compress both do a better >job and very few people -- until this thread -- knew about pack >anyway. Look up "parochialism" in Webster. >Let's start a "get rid of 'pack'" campaign! :-) Uh, yeah. Right about the same time you start burning books because "everyone watches TV now." You guys just don't get it, do you? -=EPS=- -- If gzip is so great, why isn't there a fully functional, supported version for Macintosh?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: chuck@benatong.com (Charles G. Bennett) Subject: Driver problem for "New" EPSON Driver?! Message-ID: <1993Jul9.044120.4033@cypher.cmhnet.org> Sender: chuck@cypher.cmhnet.org Organization: BenaTong, inc. References: <1993Jul6.092920.8304@ghost.dsi.unimi.it> Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1993 04:41:20 GMT We picked up the "New" drivers for the Epson Wingine from the NeXTANSWERS FTP site... After installing the driver or screen looks like someone ripped it apart horizontally ONLY in 1120 x 832 mode. various refresh rates seem to change the amount of tearing. the 1024 x 768 still works reguardless of refresh rate. ie.. This used to be a box.. ********* * * * * * * * * ********* The system is an Epson Progression with the "Professional Series Monitor". Is anyone else seeing this or do we have a broken system? Thanks Chuck -- Chuck Bennett Karnak the Great: "The answer is Rin Tin Tin, Lassie, Windows NT" The Question is, "Name two movie stars and a Dog.." chuck@benatong.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: cooldude@amy13.stanford.edu (Imran Qureshi) Subject: Re: Subclassing Matrix to use different sized cells? Message-ID: <1993Jul10.081744.19372@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: DSO, Stanford University References: <1993Jul9.200752.20386@software.org> Date: Sat, 10 Jul 93 08:17:44 GMT In article <1993Jul9.200752.20386@software.org> marshall@software.org (Eric Marshall) writes: > Has anyone out there subclassed Matrix to use different > sized cells? I'd appreciate code samples of this :-) > > Thanks in advance. > > > Eric Marshall You can find my class VarMatrix on one of the FTP sites.(e.g, sonata.cc.purdue.edu) It comes with some sample code etc. Ciao, Imran
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dgursky@nextsrv1.andi.org Subject: ExactlyWrite Content-Type: text/plain Message-ID: <dg.93Jul911128@synex_hq> Sender: usenet@nextsrv1.andi.org (usenet) Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1993 16:12:08 GMT Recently, the good folks at RightBrain released a new word processor for the NeXT - ExactlyWrite. Two questions about it: 1 - What features does ExactlyWrite have? More specifically, how well does it support RTF and how completely does it exchange RTF documents with other applications (such as Word). 2 - To those of you who have used it, what do you think of it? --- David M. Gursky NeXTMail accepted Synex, Inc. e-mail: dgursky@nextsrv1.andi.org 5950 Symphony Woods Road voice: ............ (301) 621-5732 Columbia, MD 21044 fax: .............. (301) 621-6005
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mckelvey@fafnir.com (James W. McKelvey) Subject: Re: Sybase libraries - Sybase server incompatibities in 3.1 Message-ID: <C9xpyu.2yr@fafnir.com> Sender: mckelvey@fafnir.com (James W. McKelvey) Organization: Fafnir Software, Saugus, CA, USA References: <21hgiuINNrae@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1993 05:59:18 GMT In article <21hgiuINNrae@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> isbell@cats.ucsc.edu (Art Isbell) writes: > > In article <2127gtINNova@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> isbell@cats.ucsc.edu (Art Isbell) writes: > > > >Unfortunately, NeXT seems to have begun the process of dropping support for > >black hardware already (what happened to 1995 ?-( > > > >NeXT fixed a number of significant Sybase adaptor bugs in 3.1. However, for > >those of us running a Sybase server on black hardware, the new adaptor is > >incompatible because it is linked against v.4.6 of the Sybase DBLib library > >which won't run reliably against the old v.4.0 Sybase server running on black > >hardware. NeXT mentions this in the 3.1 release notes. > > I have received private correspondence from NeXT indicating that my > interpretation of the 3.1 release notes was not what NeXT intended. NeXT > intended to warn against using new Sybase 4.6 features against a Sybase 4.0 > database and states that the 3.1 Sybase adaptor is backward-compatible with > Sybase 4.0 database servers. > > So NeXT has not begun dropping support for black hardware as it appeared. > > Therefore, the problems we have experienced should be considered bugs, not lack > of support. > > However, the bottom line remains: the 3.1 Sybase adaptor cannot be reliably > used with Sybase 4.0 database servers in our experience. > > Try these simple tests to determine whether you will have the same problems as > we have seen: > > - Insert a new record with a duplicate key into a table on which a unique index > exists on the key. After Sybase reports a "duplicate key" error, try to > refetch data. Our experience is that the client app will then hang and must be > killed. > > - Insert more than 256 characters into a Sybase text datatype data column. > Repeatedly fetch this data. The client app should crash either on the save or > on one of the subsequent fetches. The crash can occur immediately, or it may > take several repeated fetches, but our experience indicates that crashing will > eventually occur thus making the client app pretty unusable. > > - We have seen the following occur at 2 sites on 2 different occasions, but > have not been able to reliably reproduce it. Run the 3.1 isql or possibly any > other app linked against the Sybase 4.6 client libraries against a Sybase 4.0 > database server. Concurrently, run a DBKit client app using the 3.1 Sybase > adaptor against the same server. As long as another 4.6 app is running, data > cannot be fetched using the DBKit app. As I indicated, I don't know the exact > sequence of events or circumstances that leads to this problem, but if you > suddenly cannot fetch data using your DBKit app, check whether any other 4.6 > apps are accessing the server. > > We have produced a simple NEXTSTEP app (and sent it to NeXT) that demonstrates > the first 2 bugs. By merely rerunning the same app using the 3.0 Sybase > adaptor, the problems disappear. > > NeXT claims to have had only one other complaint about this apparent > incompatibility between the 3.1 Sybase adaptor and the 4.0 Sybase server. If > you experience similar problems (or any problems that you suspect result from > this incompatibility), please report it to bug_next@next.com using BugNeXT.app > so that NeXT can come up with a fix ASAP. > -- > This discussion has been very interesting. I have a very specific question. Does the 4.6 library run reliably against the old 4.0 server, assuming that I do not use any new features? I don't care about the DBKit or adapters at this time. -- The gentle journey jars to stop. The drifting dream is done. The long gone goblins loom ahead; the deadly, that we thought were dead, stand waiting, every one. -- Walt Kelly Jim McKelvey mckelvey@fafnir.com
From: eystein@smyril.fi.uib.no (Eystein Dugstad) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: ExactlyWrite Message-ID: <1993Jul10.111709.10421@alf.uib.no> Date: 10 Jul 93 11:17:09 GMT References: <dg.93Jul911128@synex_hq> Sender: usenet@alf.uib.no (Bergen University Newsaccount) Organization: University of Bergen, Norway In article <dg.93Jul911128@synex_hq> dgursky@nextsrv1.andi.org writes: > Recently, the good folks at RightBrain released a new word processor for the NeXT - ExactlyWrite. Two questions about it: > > 1 - What features does ExactlyWrite have? More specifically, how well does it support RTF and how completely does it exchange RTF documents with other applications (such as Word). Here is what I got from RightBrain. I don't know if it's really released yet. Eystein, Norway ------------ The NEXTSTEP Word Processor for Everyone from RightBrain Software ExactlyWrite is a simple, very inexpensive word processor for NEXTSTEP, fully compatible with all NEXTSTEP hardware, including Intel Processors, NeXT 68040, and all future NEXTSTEP platforms. ExactlyWrite has the ability to read WriteNow documents, making it the perfect word processor for the new NEXTSTEP. FEATURES Full robust editing capability based on the NEXTSTEP Text object Extremely fast launching and editing speed Intuitive interface with many mini-breakthrough ideas Built-in spell checking Supports EMACS-style editing commands, including control-k & -y Support for colored text Drag-and-drop graphics (TIFF and EPS). Rulers, including first-line indent, left indent, and tab stops. QuickFonts, to let you access your favorite fonts with a keystroke Headers and footers, including automatic page numbering Ability to supress headers and/or footers on page 1 Convert selection to uppercase, lowercase, or mixed case Smart punctuation Page breaks Macro capability to record and replay keystrokes Compatibility with WriteNow files Save and Open ASCII and RTF files Many more time-saving features PRICING & CONTACT INFORMATION Single-User Licenses Retail Price $*** Educational $ ** Developer $ ** Site Licenses 20 - 199 seats $ ** per seat 200 - 499 seats $ ** per seat 500 or more seats $ ** per seat Address RightBrain Software 132 Hamilton Avenue Palo Alto, CA 94301 Phone & Email 415-326-2974 415-326-2977 fax 800-472-7246 orders info@rightbrain.com ADDITIONAL FEATURES We have deliberately kept ExactlyWrite fast and simple, and there are certain things that we don't provide in the current feature list. Since specifications never list what a product doesn't do, and since you alway have to call and ask, we thought we'd include a list of what the product doesn't do. If you're looking for sophisticated typography layout, multiple columns, and printing capabilities, we recommend our PasteUp product, which is a full-featured page layout program rivaling QuarkXPress and PageMaker . Some of these missing features will be added in future releases of ExactlyWrite, and have been marked with an asterisk* to indicate that we're interested in supporting them and may be working on it, but version 1.0 will not have that support. Not Supported Multiple columns Footnotes, end notes* In-line equation baseline shift Mail merge* Table or Equation editor Framemaker file compatibility Wordperfect file compatibility* Kerning Hyphenation Full justification of text
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: nico@imani.cam.org (Nicolas Dore) Subject: Re: More Info About Mathematica for NSFIP Message-ID: <1993Jul10.160825.282@imani.cam.org> Sender: nico@imani.cam.org References: <jamast00.742129697@mik.uky.edu> Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1993 16:08:25 GMT In article <jamast00.742129697@mik.uky.edu> jamast00@bigdaddy.mik.uky.edu (John A. Mastrolia) writes: > > [munch, munch, stuff 'bout Mathematica for NeXTSTEP FIP] > > Just read the other day in PC Week that Mathmatica Inc. has filed Chapter 11 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > protection from creditors. Guess those high prices kept paying customers > away! Perhaps they will have the insight change their ways. Putting aside the missing "e", are you referring to Wolfram Research (I believe this to be the correct spelling, not sure here), publishers of Mathematica, or a company named Mathematica Inc., probably not related to Mathematica, if it exists? Just asking Ciao > -- > John A. Mastrolia (Politically, Fashionably, and Aerodynamically Incorrect) > jamast00@mik.uky.edu > outland!jmast@ms.uky.edu > University of Kentucky -- Nicolas Dore nico@imani.cam.org - - - - - - - - - CAREFUL! POLITICAL COMMENT ZONE!! - - - - - - - - - > "If I can't dance, I don't want to be in your revolution!" < > Emma Goldman (to Vladimir Ilitch Oulianov [Lenin], 1917) <
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: nico@imani.cam.org (Nicolas Dore) Subject: Anybody got info on Espresso? Message-ID: <1993Jul10.163721.734@imani.cam.org> Sender: nico@imani.cam.org Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1993 16:37:21 GMT Hi I just read an ad for Espresso, from PSI. It is development-related stuff, and the ad says it "makes the development process easier", or something. These guys used to make what gave NeXT the basic idea for DBKit, so I guess this could be interesting. Hadn't heard of it, but would like to. Anybody have any info? Thanks Ciao -- Nicolas Dore nico@imani.cam.org - - - - - - - - - CAREFUL! POLITICAL COMMENT ZONE!! - - - - - - - - - > "If I can't dance, I don't want to be in your revolution!" < > Emma Goldman (to Vladimir Ilitch Oulianov [Lenin], 1917) <
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: trebels@desdemona.theo-phys.gwdg.de (Stephan Trebels) Subject: Re: .z files versus .Z files Message-ID: <EW9EBKDE@gwdu03.gwdg.de> Sender: news@gwdu03.gwdg.de (USENET News System) Organization: GWDG, Goettingen References: <21ing3$20b@usenet.rpi.edu> Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1993 21:13:20 GMT Hi, I followed this thread for a while, but perhaps it should be moved to c.s.n.misc or even c.s.n.advocacy? There seem to be quite theological opinions, so there will not be a solution. I will love to continue this argument in some other newsgroup. Perhaps the question whether .z caused any problems should sound: "Do you use U*ix for more than 10 years without changing habits?" ;-). You are the first person I ever heard of, that knew someone using pack/unpack. Tradition must be something nice... *I* first heard about pack when gzip was introduced, everyone else used compress, zip, zoo, or even arc. To be honest, I read about pack before, but I never thought, any U*ix would feature it. I have really been impressed to find the program on some U*ix machines but *noone* using it. I think this suffix leads to a similar but more important question regarding filetypes in NeXTSTEP. Should any filetype ever registered at NeXT be registered forever, even if the product is dead and there is a *compatible* replacement? I doubt it! Still thinking .z would have been ok for U*ix alone, but inacceptable if one wants multi-platform support... Stephan -- +--------------------------------------------------------------+ / Stephan Trebels voice: +49 551 44690 /| +--------------------------------------------------------------+ | | <trebels@theo-phys.gwdg.de> "No NeXTmail yet, it's a HP" | + | <trebels@desdemona.theo-phys.gwdg.de> "NeXTmail welcome" |/ +--------------------------------------------------------------+
Message-ID: <qq$@byu.edu> Date: Sat, 10 Jul 93 15:39:30 MDT From: pmarc@wyoming.et.byu.edu (Paul M. Cardon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Distribution: world References: <1993Jul8.061904.27781@csus.edu> <4O8EBYAU@gwdu03.gwdg.de> <eq$@byu.edu> <1993Jul10.080507.23276@csus.edu> Organization: Brigham Young University, Provo UT USA Subject: Re: .z files versus .Z files In article <1993Jul10.080507.23276@csus.edu>, eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) writes: >In article <eq$@byu.edu> yackd@wyoming.et.byu.edu (Don Yacktman) writes: >> Why bother when gzip and compress both do a better >>job and very few people -- until this thread -- knew about pack >>anyway. > >Look up "parochialism" in Webster. > >>Let's start a "get rid of 'pack'" campaign! :-) > >Uh, yeah. Right about the same time you start burning books >because "everyone watches TV now." > >You guys just don't get it, do you? > > -=EPS=- >-- >If gzip is so great, why isn't there a fully functional, >supported version for Macintosh? Now tell me, how many of _any_ of the GNU utilities have fully functional, supported versions for Macintosh? Paul
From: pdg@access.digex.net (Paul Guthrie) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: .z files versus .Z files Date: 10 Jul 1993 18:27:05 -0400 Organization: The League of Crafty Hackers Message-ID: <21nfnp$fom@access.digex.net> References: <21ing3$20b@usenet.rpi.edu> <EW9EBKDE@gwdu03.gwdg.de> In article <EW9EBKDE@gwdu03.gwdg.de> trebels@theo-phys.gwdg.de writes: >Perhaps the question whether .z caused any problems >should sound: "Do you use U*ix for more than 10 years >without changing habits?" ;-). You are the first person >I ever heard of, that knew someone using pack/unpack. >Tradition must be something nice... This is getting off of the subject a little (not too NeXT related), but pack gets lots of use in the real world. There are lots of people out there running "mission critical" applications on old System V machines like 3B2s with just the stock packages loaded. No compress, only pack. As a former consultant, I had to do various work at a few of these. You do find it. No matter how much better gzip of compress are, the GNU people had to face it: Pack is out there and is being used. -- Paul Guthrie pdg@vorpal.digex.net NeXT Mail paul@nsacray.chi.il.us Encouraged!
From: h0l847a@tamsun.tamu.edu (Hoseong La) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Looking for 'bdftopcf' for mouse-X on NeXT Date: 10 Jul 1993 19:09:24 -0500 Organization: tamu Distribution: world Message-ID: <21nlnk$4q@tamsun.tamu.edu> Hi, Does anybody know where I can find 'bdftopcf' for NeXT's X-window? Somehow mouse-X does not have 'bdftopcf' but has 'bdftosnf.' Please let me know where I can find this. Thanks in advance. hs
Message-ID: <rq$@byu.edu> Date: Sat, 10 Jul 93 19:19:27 MDT From: yackd@alaska.et.byu.edu (Don Yacktman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Distribution: world Followup-To: alt.flame References: <1993Jul8.061904.27781@csus.edu> <4O8EBYAU@gwdu03.gwdg.de> <eq$@byu.edu> <1993Jul10.080507.23276@csus.edu> Organization: Brigham Young University, Provo UT USA Subject: Re: .z files versus .Z files In article <1993Jul10.080507.23276@csus.edu>, eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) writes: >In article <eq$@byu.edu> yackd@wyoming.et.byu.edu (Don Yacktman) writes: >> Why bother when gzip and compress both do a better >>job and very few people -- until this thread -- knew about pack >>anyway. > >Look up "parochialism" in Webster. > >>Let's start a "get rid of 'pack'" campaign! :-) > >Uh, yeah. Right about the same time you start burning books >because "everyone watches TV now." > >You guys just don't get it, do you? No pal, *_YOU_* don't get it. That smiley stands for "this statement was made tongue in cheek." Why don't you take a pill and come back later? By the way, I'd e-mail this, but public abuse (you posted, after all) deserves a public retort. At any rate, I feel that your analogy is really not a very good one. You see, books (for me at least) have a distinct advantage over TV: they spark creativity, allow the mind to be exercised, and are a better method of storing information. TV definitely doesn't do the first two for me. On the other hand, give me a real benefit of the "pack" utility. The only benefit I see is that it's on every UNIX system...but that's a very diluted benefit because nobody I know uses it regularly and I have _never_ seen it used for distributing files. Since it is standard on UNIX systems, I agree that we can't really abolish it: why do you think I had a smiley there anyway? To waste keypresses? I also agree that the use of the .z extension, conflicting with an already "standard", even if forgotten, was a big mistake. But it was even more of a mistake because VMS, DOS, and several other OS's are case insensitive and thus the distinction between .z and .Z is lost. That distinction is very important! What if FSF had chosen to use .Z as the extension for gzip? I think anyone would agree that is a bad thing to do...and because of non-case sensitive OS's, they effectively did just that. This is the strongest reason for the change, IMHO, though both are important. (If I download a .Z file from a VMS archive and uncompress complains, I figure the file is corrupted...not gzipped. I'm smart enough to be aware of the problem and try GNU's zcat before deleting the file, but how many people would consider that as a solution? Not very many, since gzip is so relatively new, and especially not beginners.) Enough of this. This thread has now lapsed beyond silly into the inane. Don_Yacktman@byu.edu -- Don_Yacktman@byu.edu Nepotism is a relative thing.
Message-ID: <sq$@byu.edu> Date: Sat, 10 Jul 93 19:23:16 MDT From: yackd@alaska.et.byu.edu (Don Yacktman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Distribution: world Followup-To: alt.flame References: <1993Jul8.061904.27781@csus.edu> <4O8EBYAU@gwdu03.gwdg.de> <eq$@byu.edu> <1993Jul10.080507.23276@csus.edu> <qq$@byu.edu> Organization: Brigham Young University, Provo UT USA Subject: Re: .z files versus .Z files In article <qq$@byu.edu>, pmarc@wyoming.et.byu.edu (Paul M. Cardon) writes: > >In article <1993Jul10.080507.23276@csus.edu>, > eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) writes: >>If gzip is so great, why isn't there a fully functional, >>supported version for Macintosh? > >Now tell me, how many of _any_ of the GNU utilities have fully >functional, supported versions for Macintosh? In fact, where's "pack" for the Mac ? I don't believe that I've seen it lately... :-) -don -- Don_Yacktman@byu.edu Nepotism is a relative thing.
From: rww@mugwump.cl.msu.edu (Richard W. Wiggins) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Postscript hassles any less likely under 3.1? Date: 11 Jul 1993 02:42:09 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <21num1$164a@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> Thanks to an earlier posting here, I've learned that Nextstep 3.1 fixes the maddening slowdowns in system response when one starts a print job under 3.0. Next question: Does it *work* any better? I tried printing a file that was generated under MS-Word tonight, and the printer began my absolute favorite stunt: looping, printing out "Offending Command=" on a zillion sheets of paper. So I tried firing up Preview, to isolate the bad spot. Sure enough, I found the offending page -- first Preview seemed to loop a while, then my session was logged out!!! Does anyone know if 3.1 has more robust support for various Postscript flavors? Now that Next is purely a software company, can we expect them to fix shoddy behavior like this? /rich
From: h0l847a@tamsun.tamu.edu (Hoseong La) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <21nlnk$4q@tamsun.tamu.edu> Control: cancel <21nlnk$4q@tamsun.tamu.edu> Date: 10 Jul 1993 21:41:56 -0500 Organization: tamu Distribution: world Message-ID: <21nulk$c9t@tamsun.tamu.edu> <21nlnk$4q@tamsun.tamu.edu> was cancelled from within trn.
From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Subclassing Matrix to use different sized cells? Message-ID: <69196@mimsy.umd.edu> Date: 11 Jul 93 03:17:28 GMT References: <1993Jul9.200752.20386@software.org> Sender: news@mimsy.umd.edu Followup-To: comp.sys.next.programmer Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742 In article <1993Jul9.200752.20386@software.org> marshall@software.org (Eric Marshall) writes: > Has anyone out there subclassed Matrix to use different > sized cells? I'd appreciate code samples of this :-) Hi Eric, You may wish to check out the free VarMatrix class on sonata: from the README "The VarMatrix class is a subclass of Matrix that allows variable sized columns and rows. However the overall shape of the matrix has to be a rectangle." I think there may be a mini example about this too, but cant remember, -- Alex Blakemore alex@cs.umd.edu NeXT mail accepted -------------------------------------------------------------- "Without an engaged and motivated human being at the keyboard, the computer is just another dumb box." William Raspberry
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: ian_stewart@pyrian.com (Ian H. Stewart) Subject: Re: Vacation Message-ID: <C9zD9n.GL@pyrian.com> Sender: ian@pyrian.com (Ian H. Stewart) Organization: Pharaoh Computer, Inc. References: <134684@netnews.upenn.edu> Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1993 03:20:11 GMT In article <134684@netnews.upenn.edu> anstine@uniblab.sas.upenn.edu (David Anstine) writes: > Is there a NextStep app available for setting up vacation messages? > > -dave Yes There is a product called On Vacation that sells for $17.95 + $5 s&h until July 31, 1993. The price will go up to $29.95 after that. Available from: Pharaoh Computer, Inc. 236 W. Portal Ave. #341 San Francisco CA 94127 415-664-1170 or email me. Ian H. Stewart
From: nevai@math.ohio-state.edu (Paul Nevai) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.unix.questions Subject: Whats the difference between "relocatable" and "executable"? Date: 11 Jul 1993 11:41:08 GMT Organization: Department of Mathematics, The Ohio State University Sender: Paul Nevai Distribution: world Message-ID: <21ou8k$a6m@mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu> Originator: nevai@ops.mps.ohio-state.edu Whats the difference between "relocatable" and "executable"? EXAMPLE: % file sed sed.other sed: Mach-O relocatable (for architecture m68k) sed.other: Mach-O executable (for architecture m68k) Thanks. Take care...Paul Paul Nevai nevai@math.ohio-state.edu Dept Math - Ohio State University 1-614-292-3317 (Office) Columbus, Ohio 43210-1174, U.S.A. 1-614-292-1479 (Math Dept Fax)
From: shmelepv@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Pyotr Shmelev) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Russian-English/English-Russian dictionary for NeXT? Date: 11 Jul 1993 20:13:15 GMT Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology Message-ID: <21ps8r$6o5@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu> I'm looking for a Russian-English/English-Russian electronic dictionary for NeXT. Any information on the subject will be greatly appreciated. Peter < shmelepv@NeXTwork.rose-hulman.edu >
From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.unix.questions Subject: Re: Whats the difference between "relocatable" and "executable"? Message-ID: <69210@mimsy.umd.edu> Date: 11 Jul 93 19:51:39 GMT References: <21ou8k$a6m@mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu> Sender: news@mimsy.umd.edu Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742 In article <21ou8k$a6m@mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu> pali+@osu.edu writes: > Whats the difference between "relocatable" and "executable"? man ld & check out the -r option in short, relocatable files can still be linked with other object files -- Alex Blakemore alex@cs.umd.edu NeXT mail accepted -------------------------------------------------------------- "Without an engaged and motivated human being at the keyboard, the computer is just another dumb box." William Raspberry
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software From: brill@sybase.com (Michael Brill) Subject: Re: Sybase libraries - Sybase server incompatibities in 3.1 Message-ID: <CA0qrG.8Bz@sybase.com> Keywords: Sybase, 3.1 Sender: usenet@sybase.com Organization: Sybase, Inc. References: <2127gtINNova@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> <21hgiuINNrae@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1993 21:09:16 GMT isbell@cats.ucsc.edu (Art Isbell) writes: >However, the bottom line remains: the 3.1 Sybase adaptor cannot be reliably >used with Sybase 4.0 database servers in our experience. Don't just assume that the problems are between the 3.1 adaptor and SQL Server 4.0... I've run into a number of these problems (and more) using the adaptor with 4.9.x of SQL Server. It seems that very few people have actually reported bugs with DBKit in 3.1 - this is not a good thing as there are bugs. Since not many folks are actually going to put out production apps in 3.1, it's not such a bad thing. If DBKit is as buggy in 3.2, I'd imagine that quite a few people will be honing up their NT development skills :(. So, in support of Art's posting, if you do DBKit-based development, please do some testing with DBKit in 3.1 and report bugs to bug_next@next.com - either that or bone up on your DBLib skills! ...Michael
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: glen@netcom.com (Steven Kornreich) Subject: Where to find Cnews for NeXT Message-ID: <glenCA112B.4I6@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1993 00:51:46 GMT What ftp site and dir location has a version of Cnews that will compile correctly without modification for a NeXT system?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,co.general From: timothy@eddie.rmNUG.org Subject: Email for Mac, PC & NeXTSTEP Message-ID: <1993Jul12.033126.529@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> Followup-To: timothy@eddie.rmnug.org Sender: timothy@nugget.rmNUG.ORG (Tim Miller) Organization: Rocky Mountain NeXT Users' Group Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1993 03:31:26 GMT I'm setting up a new email system that uses PC's, Mac's, and hopefully NeXTSTEP all dialing in remotely. Any suggestions? Thanks, Tim Miller -- Tim Miller, Boulder, CO timothy@eddie.rmNUG.org [NeXTmail accepted]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: michi@cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Michele Giardini) Subject: Workshop on "3D modelling in NEXTSTEP" Sender: news-mail@ghost.dsi.unimi.it (News mail user) Organization: Computer Science Dep. - Milan University Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1993 10:02:34 GMT Message-ID: <1993Jul12.100234.2412@ghost.dsi.unimi.it> State University in Milan Computer Science Department Via Comelico 39/41 - Milan (Italy) Workshop July, 15th 1993, h. 16.00 Mr. Carlo Volpati will talk about "3D modelling in NEXTSTEP using solidThinking Modeler " Abstract solidThinking Modeler is a professional 3D modelling system composed by a complex primitive generator, morphing, an advanced 2d profile editor, multiple lofting and deformations that you can apply to extruded or rotated objects, automatic generation of shadows and reflection maps, unlimited output resolution. The interactive photorealistic rendering is done through Pixar's program RenderMan , included in NEXTSTEP. During the workshop, solidThinking modeler will be demonstrated by Carlo Volpati, co-author of the package. The workshop is organized by the Computer Science Department - State University in Milan, with the collaboration of NeXT2YOU - The Italian NEXTSTEP User Group -- Giardini Michele - Computer Science Department State University of Milan - Coordinator of NeXT2YOU (The Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) Via Comelico 39/41 - 20135 Milano Tel. +39 2 55006385 Fax +39 2 55006373 Email: michi@cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (NeXT mail welcome)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk (Scott A. McIntyre) Subject: Re: Squash & 3.1 Message-ID: <scott.742471643@shrug> Organization: University of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK, NE1 7RU Keywords: black h/w, Squash, 3.1 Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1993 10:07:23 GMT References: <1993Jul8.023136.1491@nugget.rmnug.org> <21ialk$f9i@umd5.umd.edu> matthews@is-next.umd.edu (Mike Matthews) writes: }It's also rather difficult to drag 'n drop onto Engage!. I seem to remember }a promised 3.0 version, but never got it... wonder if Jayson's busy on the }3.1 version? Well, there is a small workaround for this, if you are impatient (like me), just move the Engage icon off of the doc, not the application itself, but the Engage docking icon....if you have the grid movement set on, and move it just off the dock, you can drag and drop things onto it without a problem.. I would guess that the dock is just more sensitive in 3.1... Looking forward to the Engage! upgrade though... Scott -- EMAIL: S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk OR scott@shrug.dur.ac.uk (NeXTmail) SNAIL: Pyschment of Departology, University of Durham, Durham, DH1 3LE "Did you know that the computer invented itself?" - SNL
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mihe@gordon.enea.se (Mike Henry) Subject: Re: .z files versus .Z files Message-ID: <1993Jul12.090006.13824@enea.se> Sender: usenet@enea.se Organization: ENEA DATA AB, Stockholm, Sweden References: <1993Jul8.061904.27781@csus.edu> <4O8EBYAU@gwdu03.gwdg.de> <eq$@byu.edu> <1993Jul10.080507.23276@csus.edu> Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1993 09:00:06 GMT In article <1993Jul10.080507.23276@csus.edu> eps@cs.sfsu.edu writes: > -=EPS=- >-- >If gzip is so great, why isn't there a fully functional, >supported version for Macintosh? The reason why FSF does not support any free software on Apple hardware is included in a document that comes with GNU software (this one taken from emacs 19.16): Enjoy! -Mike ---- 8< ---- Start Included File: emacs-19.16/etc/APPLE -------------------- @unnumbered Special Report: Apple's New Look and Feel You might have read about the new look-and-feel copyright lawsuit, Apple vs. Hewlett Packard and Microsoft. Apple claims the power to stop people from writing any program that works even vaguely like a Macintosh. If they and other look-and-feel plaintiffs triumph, they will use this new power over the public to put an end to free software that could substitute for commercial software. In the weeks after the suit was filed, USENET reverberated with condemnation for Apple. GNU supporters Richard Stallman, John Gilmore, and Paul Rubin decided to take action against Apple's no-longer-deserved reputation as a force for progress. Apple's reputation comes from having made better computers; but now, Apple is working to make all non-Apple computers worse. If this deprives the public of the future work of many companies, the harm done would be many times the good that any one company does. Our hope was that if the user community realizes how destructive Apple's present actions are, Apple would lose customers and have more trouble finding employees. Our method of action was to print 5000 buttons that say ``Keep Your Lawyers Off My Computer'' and hand them out at the West Coast Computer Faire. The center of the button shows the rainbow-apple logo with a Gigeresque mouth full of ferocious teeth. The picture was drawn by Etienne Suvasa, who also drew the cover for the GNU Emacs manual. We call the picture ``Apple's New Look and Feel''. We gave out nearly 4000 buttons at the show (saving the rest for afterwards). The result was a great success: the extent of anger at Apple was apparent to everyone at the show. Many of the invited speakers at the show wore our buttons, spoke about them, or even waved them from the podium. The press noticed this: at least one Macintosh user's magazine carried a photo of the button afterwards. Some of you may be considering using, buying, or recommending Macintoshes; you might even be writing programs for them or thinking about it. Please think twice and look for an alternative. Doing those things means more success for Apple, and this could encourage Apple to persist in its aggression. It also encourages other companies to try similar obstructionism. [It is because of this boycott that we don't include support for Macintosh Unix in GNU software.] You might think that your current project ``needs'' a Macintosh now. If you find yourself thinking this way, consider the far future. You probably plan to be alive a year or two from now, and working on some other project. You will want to get good computers for that, too. But an Apple monopoly could easily make the price of such computers at that time several times what it would otherwise be. Your decision to use some other kind of machine, or to defer your purchases now, might make sure that the machines your next project needs are affordable when you need them. Newspapers report that Macintosh clones will be available soon. If you must buy a Macintosh-like machine, buy a clone. Don't feed the lawyers! If you would like further information about the boycott, or want to help please ask: League for Programming Freedom 1 Kendall Square #143 P.O. Box 9171 Cambridge, MA 02139 E-Mail: lpf@uunet.uu.net Phone: 617-243-4091 Dues: $42.00/yr for programmers $10.50/yr for students $21.00/yr for others. ---- 8< ---- End Included File: emacs-19.16/etc/APPLE -------------------- -- Mike Henry INET : mihe@enea.se /// Box 232 /// S-183 23 Taby TEL : +46 8 792-2500 \\\/// SWEDEN TFX : +46 8 768-4388 \XX/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: hussain@artsci.wustl.edu (G. H. Chinoy) Subject: audio tape lable maker Message-ID: <1993Jul12.141612.13298@wuecl.wustl.edu> Sender: usenet@wuecl.wustl.edu (News Administrator) Organization: Washington University, School of Engineering, St. Louis MO Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1993 14:16:12 GMT Does anyone know of a tape cover maker for the NeXT? ________________________________ G. H. Chinoy hussain@artsci.wustl.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: brill@sybase.com (Michael Brill) Subject: Re: Anybody got info on Espresso? Message-ID: <CA0sIH.8M3@sybase.com> Sender: usenet@sybase.com Organization: Sybase, Inc. References: <1993Jul10.163721.734@imani.cam.org> Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1993 21:47:05 GMT nico@imani.cam.org (Nicolas Dore) writes: >I just read an ad for Espresso, from PSI. It is development-related stuff, and >the ad says it "makes the development process easier", or something. These guys >used to make what gave NeXT the basic idea for DBKit, so I guess this could be >interesting. >Hadn't heard of it, but would like to. Since several people have posted, asking about Espresso - here's my first take: Should've picked up a copy for $295 at NWE. Basically it's a 4GL toolkit that sits on top of DBKit. You still use IB for creating apps and use Espresso objects in conjunction with regular Appkit/DBKit objects. Espresso objects extend the functionality of NeXT objects via the delegate mechanism. So without any coding, you can do things like qualify fetches, set field masks, swap views, pick lists and a few other things. The real power is in being able to write scripts in their 4GL without programming in Objective-C. By writing fairly simple scripts you can do thing like: * Drag and drop * Most any type of DBKit operation * Many Appkit functions * Improv access * Many standard 'C' type functions It's "sorta like" providing 4D (Macintosh database) capabilities to the development environment. It's completely extensible (you can write your own Espresso functions and objects in Objective C and then call them from the scripting language). Unfortunately, you cannot just call Objective C methods of standard objects from within the scripting language - this is a bummer. So, for instance, you might want to press a button, have Espresso build and execute a complex DBKit query and then send a message to a graphing object to graph the data retrieved. You either have to create an Espresso C API wrapper around the graphing object or create two buttons - one to fetch, one to graph (note that Espresso has its own mechanism for handling events which doesn't coexist with Appkit's [e.g., if you press a button - Espresso either grabs the event or you can handle it regularly - not both]). It's quite good for whipping up apps quickly. It comes with a pretty full featured set of commands and functions - if you've often wanted 4GL capability while getting access to the the OO facilities that the Appkit and DBKit give you, then this is a really cool product. The only danger is that 4GLs, in general, don't give you the many advantages of object orientation - but sometimes you just don't need it. I just used it for a basic tracking database that tracks product evaluations, form letters, emails generated, provides searching capabilities and a few other things... once I got up to speed on Espresso, I (re) wrote the thing in about 12 hours... it would have taken me a week in Objective C. So if you don't know Objective C well and you want to develop apps on NS, get it. If you know Objective C but are tired of dealing with DBRecordLists, DBProperties and DBQualifiers for very simple tasks - get it. You could have pretty much gotten that from NWE, since I haven't used the production version yet, I'll hold off on a real evaluation - but it looks like it does what it's supposed to. ...Michael
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: FrameMaker 2.0d on NS 3.1 Message-ID: <1993Jul12.112812.69915@cc.usu.edu> From: hcole@tumbleweed.idec.sdl.usu.edu (Howard R. Cole) Date: 12 Jul 93 11:28:09 MDT Distribution: usa I recently took the plunge and upgraded to 3.1. No problems with running out of processes :-) However, FrameMaker 2.0d is dying dead in the water when I try to launch it. Has anyone else experienced this? Does FrameMaker 3.0 or above run on NS 3.1? Thanks. Howard Cole hcole@tumbleweed.idec.sdl.usu.edu
From: balfanz@zorro.informatik.hu-berlin.de (Dirk Balfanz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: X11 for NeXTDimension Date: 12 Jul 1993 19:40:04 GMT Organization: Humboldt University Berlin, Department of Computer Science Distribution: world Message-ID: <21semk$a7j@hahn.informatik.hu-berlin.de> I'm looking for an X11 solution for a NeXTDimension. Mouse-X and Cub'X don't work on a ND (correct me if I'm wrong) and co-Xist is _much_ too slow (even in mono-mode it is a matter of minutes to include an article in a composition in xrn, and also xfig is merely not usable). Thanks in advance for any help. Dirk.
From: jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Joseph W Reiss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: net.opinion on dock extenders Date: 12 Jul 1993 20:55:50 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <21sj4m$rlv@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Hello! Well, I've just upgraded to a color 040 slab, and I've been ftping all kinds of software from everywhere. The result? I've learned what all of you have known for a long time now... THAT DOCK IS TOO DARN SMALL!!! So I'm looking for dock extenders. I tried the PD AltDock and Locus programs. The former seemed alright, but I couldn't get the latter to even read the .locus files it saved out! It would run, try to read the file package, and immediately exit! Anyway, I've been looking into commercial apps. I'm toying to the Engage demo, and I like what I see. I'm also interested in LaunchPad, though I haven't gotten a demo for it yet. But what I really want to know is what programs the people in net.land use and why. I'm looking for pros and cons, neat features and ugly bugs, the whole bit. And I'm not sure, but I think you might want to follow up instead of replying. There are probably a few others out there like me who'd be interested in knowing the results. Thanks! Joe -- __________ | jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu | |___) | """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" \_/OE | \EISS | Real programmers never write memos on paper. They `---- | send memos via electronic mail.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: hoymand@wissago.uwex.edu (Dirk Herr-Hoyman) Subject: Connecting Next to the Mbone Message-ID: <1993Jul12.185659.3389@pslu1.psl.wisc.edu> Sender: news@pslu1.psl.wisc.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Physical Sciences Lab, UW-Madison Date: Mon, 12 Jul 93 18:56:59 GMT Has anyone connected a Next to the Mbone? This is an experimental audiocast system which allows real time sound/video to be broadcast on the Internet. The only software I see out there is for a Sun. This is BSD based, so I presume a port to the Next would be possible. -- Dirk Herr-Hoyman | Tell me lies, Internet Publishing Specialist | tell me sweet little lies... Electronic Journal of Extension | Project Coordinator | University of Wisconsin-Extension | hoymand@joe.uwex.edu (NeXTmail accepted) | 608-265-3893 (voice) 608-265-2530 (fax) |
Control: cancel <CA19CE.Do1@research.canon.oz.au> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: greyham@research.canon.oz.au (Graham Stoney) Subject: cancel <CA19CE.Do1@research.canon.oz.au> Message-ID: <CA2qs4.336@research.canon.oz.au> Sender: news@research.canon.oz.au Organization: Canon Information Systems Research Australia Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1993 23:04:51 GMT cancel <CA19CE.Do1@research.canon.oz.au> in newsgroup comp.sys.next.software -- Graham Stoney Canon Information Systems Research Australia Ph: + 61 2 805 2909
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: johair@afit.af.mil (John R. O'hair) Subject: darken screen saver Message-ID: <johair.742531445@afit.af.mil> Sender: news@afit.af.mil Organization: Air Force Institute of Technology Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1993 02:44:05 GMT I recently downloaded the version of darken which works under 3.0, but yesterday my system got corrupted and I lost my copy along with lots of other stuff. I've managed to replace everything except darken. The version at cs.orst.edu is the old 2.1-2.2 version. Does anyone know where the latest version is? Or barring that, what changes need to be made to the old version to get it to compile and install under 3.0? Thanks John
From: dillon@moonshot.west.oic.com (Matthew Dillon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Where to find Cnews for NeXT Date: 12 Jul 1993 21:01:17 -0700 Organization: Homeless Electron Distribution: world Message-ID: <21tc2d$mr2@moonshot.west.oic.com> References: <glenCA112B.4I6@netcom.com> In article <glenCA112B.4I6@netcom.com> glen@netcom.com (Steven Kornreich) writes: :What ftp site and dir location has a version of Cnews that will compile :correctly without modification for a NeXT system? : I dunno, but you might want to consider INN instead. I was able to compile and install it with minimal work. You have to know your way around news, of course. My system is based around NNTP so INN suits it particularly well. I can't comment on its suitability in a uucp-based news system but I can say that it is extremely flexible when it comes to external feeds. Once I began to understand how it worked customizing it was trivial. INN is a complete self contained system, you just feed it and it maintains the news tree, etc etc etc. -Matt
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jingli@pythagoras.geom.umn.edu (Jing Rebecca Li) Subject: Music Kit + Music Analysis Message-ID: <CA3EL5.A78@news2.cis.umn.edu> Sender: news@news2.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: University of Minnesota Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1993 07:33:04 GMT I am about to write a program using the interface building that would let the user see the notes moving across the screen and at the same time tell the key that the piece is in, given MIDI files. I want to ask if anyone has seen software that is similiar in function and if they are available. thanks
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) Subject: Re: Connecting Next to the Mbone Message-ID: <1993Jul13.104604.14695@csus.edu> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.advocacy Sender: news@csus.edu Organization: San Francisco State University References: <1993Jul12.185659.3389@pslu1.psl.wisc.edu> Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1993 10:46:04 GMT In article <1993Jul12.185659.3389@pslu1.psl.wisc.edu> hoymand@wissago.uwex.edu (Dirk Herr-Hoyman) writes: >Has anyone connected a Next to the Mbone? It's not going to happen until NeXT gets around to integrating the June 1989 IP Multicast Extensions into their kernel. This was originally supposed to happen for 3.0, but at this point it looks like 4.0 at the earliest. That DEC, HP, SGI, Sun, etc. offer this capability now is irrelevant. NeXT gave up trying to compete with serious software vendors. -=EPS=- -- "If at first you don't succeed, lower your standards."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: hwr@pilhuhn.sub.org (Heiko W.Rupp) Subject: Re: DNS Problem References: <C9vpBH.B9s@csn.org> Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1993 09:27:15 GMT Organization: The home of the Pilhuhn Message-ID: <CA3JLG.ACz@pilhuhn.sub.org> bff@teal.csn.org (Brendan Forsyth) writes: >Anybody know the proper syntax that NeXT will understand? >PS. I am using Nutshell's BIND and DNS book as a guide. There is a reference >to configuring the NEXT as a secondary server in the SysAdmin bookshelf but >it does not give an example of this file. NeXT uses a standard bind - an older version, but standard. So the hints, you find in the nutshell book is what you are looking for. -- Heiko W.Rupp Gerwigstr.5 D-76131 Karlsruhe +49 721 9661521 In a Czechoslovakian tourist agency: Take one of our horse-driven city tours -- we guarantee no miscarriages.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jamast00@bigdaddy.mik.uky.edu (John A. Mastrolia) Subject: Re: net.opinion on dock extenders Message-ID: <jamast00.742560753@mik.uky.edu> Sender: news@ms.uky.edu (USENET News System) Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences References: <21sj4m$rlv@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1993 10:52:33 GMT In <21sj4m$rlv@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Joseph W Reiss) writes: [munch] >Anyway, I've been looking into commercial apps. I'm toying to the >Engage demo, and I like what I see. I'm also interested in LaunchPad, >though I haven't gotten a demo for it yet. But what I really want to >know is what programs the people in net.land use and why. I'm looking >for pros and cons, neat features and ugly bugs, the whole bit. I like Engage, but can't get in touch with the company for an upgrade. I also tried LaunchPad for a while, but it just didn't suit my needs. >And I'm not sure, but I think you might want to follow up instead of >replying. There are probably a few others out there like me who'd be >interested in knowing the results. >Thanks! >Joe >-- >__________ | jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu > | |___) | """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" >\_/OE | \EISS | Real programmers never write memos on paper. They > `---- | send memos via electronic mail. The app I use regularly is MetroSofts MetroTools. I has a very flexible dock extender with app launcher, a font converter, screen dimmer that can optionally lock the screen with a background option, a file archive utility, sound importer, font converter, and administrative tool to blank the login screen with a screen dimming module. Very flexable app, I like it better than the other commercial options available. If you're interested, contact mary@metrosoft.com. They're price is reasonable for their product as well. -- John A. Mastrolia (Politically, Fashionably, and Aerodynamically Incorrect) jamast00@mik.uky.edu outland!jmast@ms.uky.edu University of Kentucky
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: wfc@cl.cam.ac.uk (William Clocksin) Subject: AVAILABLE: Documentation for Music Publishing App Message-ID: <1993Jul13.133725.14133@infodev.cam.ac.uk> Sender: news@infodev.cam.ac.uk (USENET news) Organization: U of Cambridge, England Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1993 13:37:25 GMT Documentation for the Calliope music notation package is now available by anonymous ftp. The ftp directory is automounted, so you can't use a browser (like Gatorftp+). The documentation consists of several directories containing WriteNow (.wn) files. In order to read these files correctly, you MUST install the following fonts first: New Century Schoolbook, Sonata (both available from Adobe) and Calliope (included in the FTPdirectory). ftp to: ftp.cl.cam.ac.uk (that's CL, not c1). login in as anonymous with your id@address as password cd users/wfc You will see: Documentation.tar.Z Demonstration versions of Calliope will be available soon for NeXT hardware running 2.1 or 3.0. ---------------------------------------------------- W.F. Clocksin, Assistant Director of Research, Computer Laboratory, University of Cambridge Pembroke Street, Cambridge CB2 3QG, U.K. Internet: wfc@CL.cam.ac.uk (NeXTMail is acceptable) Tel UK: (0223) 334628. Tel (Int'l): +44 223-334628. Fax UK: (0223) 334678. Fax (Int'l): +44 223-334678.
From: jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Joseph W Reiss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Where is Nutation? Date: 13 Jul 1993 13:53:07 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <21ueo3$smg@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Hello. A while back, someone posted about a PD music notation program called Nutation (or Nutator, or something like that). I thought I had saved off the posting, but I can't find it now. I also can't find the program on any of the ftp sites, even using archie. Could someone tell me where I can get this program from? Thanks! Joe -- __________ | jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu | |___) | """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" \_/OE | \EISS | Real programmers never write memos on paper. They `---- | send memos via electronic mail.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mdstest1@bnr.ca (Rob Parkhill) Subject: UUCP manager Message-ID: <1993Jul13.131245.6577@bnr.ca> Sender: parkhill@nnepy220 (Rob Parkhill) Organization: Bell Northern Research Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1993 13:12:45 GMT Hi All: A friend of mine is attempting to set up a UUCP mail feed for his newly acquired NeXTstation. I seem to remember an app that would allow you to set up a feed quite easily (changed the hostname, set up the dial-in, messed with all the files for you. etc.) Anyone ever hear of such a thing? If so, could you email me with the details? (product name, company, email address, phone number, whatever you have) aTdHvAaNnKcSe Ert -- Ert Parkhill || WARNING: || These are my opinions. All mine! My REAL email address || Do not taunt || NO! I won't share them. Don't even is: mdstest1@bnr.ca || Happy Fun Ball || ask! Bwahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: neil@ms.uky.edu (Neil Greene) Subject: Re: net.opinion on dock extenders Message-ID: <CA3wuI.55u@ms.uky.edu> Organization: Kentucky NeXT User Group, Inc. References: <21sj4m$rlv@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <jamast00.742560753@mik.uky.edu> Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1993 14:13:29 GMT jamast00@bigdaddy.mik.uky.edu (John A. Mastrolia) writes: >In <21sj4m$rlv@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Joseph W Reiss) writes: >[munch] >>Anyway, I've been looking into commercial apps. I'm toying to the >>Engage demo, and I like what I see. I'm also interested in LaunchPad, >>though I haven't gotten a demo for it yet. But what I really want to >>know is what programs the people in net.land use and why. I'm looking >>for pros and cons, neat features and ugly bugs, the whole bit. >I like Engage, but can't get in touch with the company for an upgrade. >I also tried LaunchPad for a while, but it just didn't suit my needs. Try sending mail to jayson@millenium.com or to scott@millenium.com. They are alive and kick'in. >>And I'm not sure, but I think you might want to follow up instead of >>replying. There are probably a few others out there like me who'd be >>interested in knowing the results.
From: cahalan@clouds.gsfc.nasa.gov (Robert F. Cahalan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Where is Nutation? Date: 13 Jul 1993 14:29:47 GMT Organization: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center -- InterNetNews site Distribution: world Message-ID: <21ugsr$3bj@skates.gsfc.nasa.gov> References: <21ueo3$smg@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Look for "Nu" instead. Best place to get it is where all the music stuff is, at ccrma-ftp.stanford.edu in /pub/Nu.README and /pub/Nu.pkg.tar In article <21ueo3$smg@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Joseph W Reiss) writes: > > Hello. > > A while back, someone posted about a PD music notation program called > Nutation (or Nutator, or something like that). I thought I had saved > off the posting, but I can't find it now. I also can't find the > program on any of the ftp sites, even using archie. > > Could someone tell me where I can get this program from? > > Thanks! > Joe > -- > __________ | jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu > | |___) | """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" > \_/OE | \EISS | Real programmers never write memos on paper. They > `---- | send memos via electronic mail. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ .Dr. Robert F. Cahalan (Bob)...#..Laboratory for Atmospheres...... .cahalan@clouds.gsfc.nasa.gov..#..NASA-Goddard Space Flight Center .*** NeXTMail accepted ***.....#..Greenbelt, MD 20771............. .FAX: (301) 286-1627...........#..voice: (301) 286-4276........... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Allan <morrison@tegra.com> Subject: Afp? Message-ID: <CA3z7w.2y3@tegra.com> Sender: usenet@tegra.com (Usenet Admin) Organization: Tegra Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1993 15:04:43 GMT Does anybody know how to make a NeXT Cube act as an AFP server?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: tim@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu (Tim Pugh) Subject: Re: net.opinion on dock extenders Message-ID: <CA45BK.1tr@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu> Organization: Johns Hopkins Continuing Professional Programs References: <21sj4m$rlv@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1993 17:16:31 GMT jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Joseph W Reiss) writes: >Hello! >Well, I've just upgraded to a color 040 slab, and I've been ftping all >kinds of software from everywhere. The result? I've learned what all >of you have known for a long time now... THAT DOCK IS TOO DARN >SMALL!!! >So I'm looking for dock extenders. I tried the PD AltDock and Locus >programs. The former seemed alright, but I couldn't get the latter to >even read the .locus files it saved out! It would run, try to read >the file package, and immediately exit! >Anyway, I've been looking into commercial apps. I'm toying to the >Engage demo, and I like what I see. I'm also interested in LaunchPad, >though I haven't gotten a demo for it yet. But what I really want to >know is what programs the people in net.land use and why. I'm looking >for pros and cons, neat features and ugly bugs, the whole bit. >And I'm not sure, but I think you might want to follow up instead of >replying. There are probably a few others out there like me who'd be >interested in knowing the results. I am quite pleased with "MetroTools" by Metrosoft. I prefer it to Engage! but your milage may vary :-). My cheif complaint is that although Metro Tools has a nice screen saver facility, it takes a long time to launch and there is no keyboard alternative available to launch it with. It is not possible to define my own via preferences since MetroTools accesses each of its six builtin applications via a control pannel. I believe this design decision was a mistake and note that no other app I have seen uses this design approach. As to its principal strength, the dock extender function, it allows me to define a set of icons along the left side of the screen -- under the main menu area. Each icon represents a app category; e.g., Prog, Graphics, Games, DTP (Desk Top Pub), Calc, Admin, Etc. A control tab on each Category icon displays a string of associated app icons when depressed. Double clicking one of the apps causes the app to launh and the Category related icons to dissappear. Thus, it is quite easy to locate any frequently used app and yet not clutter you display space. Non App files may also be assigned to a Category for launching. At the bottom of the set of Category Icons is an autolaunch icon which can be associated with a goup of Apps you wish to auto launch at login time. All in all, its pretty slick. The configuration I have described is just one of several variations that can be selected. Unfortunately, I have forgotten the price but I believe it is reasonable (under $100?). Their E-mail address is tools@metrosoft.com --Tim -- Tim Pugh |MicroCALL Services tim@aplcenmp.apl.JHU.EDU |8713 Briarcroft Lane |Laurel, MD 20708-1355 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: russell@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Russell Schulz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,gnu.misc.discuss Subject: Re: .z files versus .Z files Message-ID: <930713.085515.5E9.rusnews.w164w@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1993 08:55:15 MDT References: <21ing3$20b@usenet.rpi.edu> <EW9EBKDE@gwdu03.gwdg.de> <21nfnp$fom@access.digex.net> Followup-To: gnu.misc.discuss Organization: Private System, Edmonton, AB, Canada this has absolutely nothing to do with NeXT anymore, people. pdg@access.digex.net (Paul Guthrie) writes: > This is getting off of the subject a little (not too NeXT related), please set followups then! gnu.misc.discuss for this one. > There are lots > of people out there running "mission critical" applications > on old System V machines like 3B2s with just the stock packages > loaded. No compress, only pack. and you're saying that these systems are greatly affected by a file on an ftp site ending in .z? please. anyway, this is all for gnu.misc.discuss.moot - it's been changed. I don't anticipate them changing it back -- Russell Schulz russell@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca ersys!rschulz Shad 86c
From: deborah@cs.ucsd.edu (Deborah K. Swanberg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: X Windows on NeXT Summary? Message-ID: <51849@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> Date: 13 Jul 93 21:46:19 GMT Sender: news@sdcc12.ucsd.edu Organization: CSE Dept., U.C. San Diego I've looked at FAQ lists, and in multiple usenet groups, but I haven't been able to find a very good summary of the different applications available to run X Windows on my NeXT machine, so please excuse the beginner question. Many years ago, something was available to run a X Window server on a Next that opened a window on the Next for the application. This is all I need. Is something like this still available? If so, where, what, how much, etc. is it? Deborah Swanberg deborah@cs.ucsd.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jpw@sansfoy.lib.virginia.edu (John Price-Wilkin) Subject: problem installing NSI on Insight ("No CD-ROM") Message-ID: <CA4I83.JFn@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU Organization: University of Virginia Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1993 21:55:14 GMT We've run into a problem installing NSI on an Insight 486-66. The machine has a Tseng Labs ET 4000 graphics card, a serial mouse, an Intel EtherExpress16 card, and a NEC scsi CD-ROM drive. Hard drive is IDE. With the floppy in we get a number of error messages. Unexpected ACK from keyboard. Problem with the mouse/pointing device. But finally and most decisively, it says "can't find CD-ROM" or "No CD-ROM." We've used the drive on a DOS machine for a while, so we know if works. Anyone have any clues about this? --- John Price-Wilkin Systems Librarian for Information Services Phone: 804.924.6082 Systems Office Fax: 804.924.4337 Alderman Library jpwilkin@virginia.edu University of Virginia jpw@sansfoy.lib.virginia.edu NeXTMail
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: net.opinion on dock extenders Date: 13 Jul 1993 22:56:16 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <21veih$51i@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <21sj4m$rlv@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Joseph W Reiss) writes: > So I'm looking for dock extenders. I tried the PD AltDock and Locus > programs. The former seemed alright, but I couldn't get the latter to > even read the .locus files it saved out! It would run, try to read > the file package, and immediately exit! > > Anyway, I've been looking into commercial apps. I'm toying to the > Engage demo, and I like what I see. I'm also interested in LaunchPad, > though I haven't gotten a demo for it yet. But what I really want to > know is what programs the people in net.land use and why. I've had LaunchPad, Engage, and Metrotools from Metrosoft. I was not at all happy with LaunchPad. I like Engage, but find that I prefer Metrotools over it (although I rip out the screen-saver portion of Metrotools). I really got Metrotools for some font-conversion chores, but the dock extender program is pretty nice too. I believe there is a newer version of Engage than the one I have, so it might be the better choice for dock extenders right now. To tell the truth I'm *using* Engage right now even though I liked Metrotools more, simply due to some NeXTstation shuffles I was doing (and am still doing, someday I'll straighten these three machines out...). -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: zeke@mode.css.gov (James Dehnert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Perl almost makes its test Date: 13 Jul 1993 23:53:50 GMT Organization: Science Applications International Corporation Distribution: world Message-ID: <ZEKE.93Jul13165350@mode.css.gov> I managed to get perl-4.036 to compile just fine on my machine, but the make test gives me this one failure, op/groups......group routines not implemented at ./op/groups.t line 11. FAILED on test 1 If you have run accross this problem, and fixed it, I'd like to hear from you. Thanks, Zeke
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Tunes from the CDROM drive (CDPlayer.app FAQ) Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software Date: 14 Jul 1993 00:20:57 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <21vjha$6ph@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <1993Jul11.124043.3142@holli.uucp> In the thread with the subject: No more Tunes from the CDROM drive (I don't get it - Help) uunet!sci34hub!tybrin4!holli!me (Trey McClendon) writes: > gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) writes: > > devadas@ecf.toronto.edu (DEVADASON CHRISTOPHER PAUL) writes: > > > The CDPlayer.app now on startup gives a message Note the phrase "on startup" > > > window stating : "CDPlayer > > > Couldn't open the CD-ROM drive." > > > > > > I assumed this has something to do with the CDROM drive going > > > from sd1 to sd2. [...etc...] > > > > My understanding is that CDPlayer.app simply will not work unless > > your CD-ROM drive is the second-highest SCSI id on your machine. > > It must be the sd1 device, from all that I've ever seen about it. > > > [ some deletia] I wish you had not deleted the second paragraph here... > We have a Toshiba 3401 CD-ROM drive on a SCSI chain like this: > SCSI ID DEVICE > 0 Quantum 105 > 2 Fujitsu 1.2G > 3 DEC 2.0G > 4 WangDAT 1300 > 5 Toshiba 3401 > > There have been no problems at all with this setup. CDPlayer.app > autolaunches like it is supposed to work. Now note the phrase "autolaunches". I realize Trey is just trying to be helpful here, but it seems I should clarify my remarks (and repeat the second paragraph) as I also got a number of email messages which hinted that I was confused in thinking that CDPlayer only works when the CD-ROM is device sd1. And, like Trey, they all skipped over my second paragraph (which I find a little annoying). There are two (common) ways to use CDPlayer.app to play music CD's: 1) Start up CDPlayer.app by double-clicking on it. The program asks you to insert the music CD in "external disk 1". If you can do that (if your CD-ROM is device sd1), then you're all set. If some other device is sd1, then it just gives you an error message and quits. 2) Turn on the "Public Window Server" option in the Unix section of Preferences.app (and then log out and log back in again for that change to take effect). With this option on, you can then stick a music CD in *without* starting CDPlayer.app, and NeXTSTEP will autolaunch the CDPlayer program. While this is nicer, it also means you have turned on that "Public Window Server" option, and that option is a serious security hole for any NeXT which is connected to a network. No network-connected NeXT should have this option on. For that matter, NeXT never should have implemented the option the way they did (ie, with zero security). The original poster mentioned that he got the error message when *starting up* CDPlayer.app. They were therefore using method #1. My first paragraph was meant for how that method works (or doesn't work, as the case may be). As far as I know, if you double-click on the application then it will *only* work if your CD-ROM drive is setup such that it's device sd1 (or, to be more precise, so that it can be reached at /dev/rsd1h). My phrasing in that paragraph did not make it clear that I was talking about a limitation that exists only with method #1, but my second paragraph seems to make the point about as clearly as I can think of: "The only option is to turn on the public window server option (which, by the way, I recommend that you *NOT* do, because it's a security risk), and then stick music CD's into the drive. In that case the application will work no matter what device the ------------------------------- CD-ROM drive is. However, if you start up the CDPlayer.app before putting in a music disc, then the application will look at device sd1 and only sd1 (which in your new configuration is a hard disk, and the program can not open that...)." Some of the confusion that has occurred in (the many) usenet threads on CDPlayer.app is because people are talking about different methods. Someone helpfully offers advice for how they are using method #X, and the other person can't get music CD's to work despite that help because they are using the other method. Now, let me say once again that I recommend that no one turn on the "Public Window Server" preference. That seems to leave you with method #1 -- and that limitation where the CD-ROM drive must be sd1. (aside: note that "sd1" does not necessarily mean the device at SCSI ID #1. If you don't know how SCSI ids map to device numbers, then read up about it or something). Well, this limitation sucks, so I futzed around a little last night and figured out how to run CDPlayer.app *without* turning on Public Window Server, and *without* restricting which device the CD-ROM drive must be. It turns out you can specify which device CDPlayer.app should to use when it starts up (in fact, that's all method #2 is really doing). You just have to give CDPlayer.app a text file which contains the name of the device that it should use. Note the text file needs to be *just* that device name (no characters after it, including linefeeds or carriage-returns). Also note that you have to have write access to that file (even though the program doesn't seem to write to the file). If you check the file /usr/filesystems/cdaudio.fs/cdaudio.device, you should see a file with the right format. Unfortunately that file is owned by root, and other userids don't have write access to it. So, what I did was copy that file to a file in my home directory with the command: cp -p /usr/filesystems/cdaudio.fs/cdaudio.device ~/SetUp/cdaudio.device This gives me a file that I have write access to (it'd probably be a good idea to check and see if this file lists the right unix device name to get to your CD-ROM drive, in my case it's /dev/rsd2h). I then created a simple shell script named Start_CD that has the following two lines in it (the second line is probably wrapped in this usenet article, sorry about that...): #!/bin/sh /NextDeveloper/Demos/CDPlayer.app/CDPlayer -NXOpen ~gad/SetUp/cdaudio.device & and put that shell script in a directory that's in my PATH (in my case, it's in /usr/local/bin/Start_CD). Then all I have to do is type Start_CD as a unix command and CDPlayer.app will start up and ask me to insert a disk in "external disk 2". Once I do that, I'm merrily playing my music CD's. Note that this method should even allow you to pick which CD-ROM player to use for playing music CD's (assuming you have more than one connected to your NeXT), but I doubt many people will care about that. I realize this seems like a lot of silly little steps just to play music CD's, but for some people this will be the only way to get CDPlayer.app to work. It'd be pretty trivial to write a NeXTSTEP application to handle these minor details, but I feel too silly about writing an application which does little more than launch some other application. This isn't really a complete FAQ list for the questions that come up with CDPlayer.app, but maybe it'll help clear up some questions for some people interested in using this demo program. I'm a bit of a CD fanatic (with a collection of music CD's to match) myself, so I wanted to figure this out and then pass the info along in case other people were interested. The other most common problem is when CDPlayer.app has lost it's setuid root status, and thus runs as the user who is logged in (and thus can't open any devices anywhere). I covered that in another recent article in comp.sys.next.sysadmin though, so I'll skip it here. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: mconners@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael R Conners) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: .z files (again - sorry) Date: 14 Jul 1993 00:32:06 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <21vk66$ki@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Summary: It's actually NeXT-related! A week or so ago *someone* wrote out the recipe to get Workspace Manager recognize .z files and appropriately unzip them. Would they (or whomever) mind posting that recipe again? (Or they could mail it to me...) -- *** Michael Conners - THE Ohio State University - Go Bucks! ***
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mdixon@parc.xerox.com (Mike Dixon) Subject: Re: net.opinion on dock extenders Message-ID: <mdixon.742616016@thelonius> Sender: news@parc.xerox.com Organization: Xerox PARC References: <21sj4m$rlv@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Date: 14 Jul 93 02:13:36 GMT > So I'm looking for dock extenders... i use TickleService's "Lauch App..." service. no icons, no alternate dock, no mouse action -- just cmd-A, type the first character of the app, and hit return. of course, TickleServices has hundreds of other features to recommend it, but that particular one makes dock extenders irrelevant as far as i'm concerned. .mike.
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: net.opinion on dock extenders Date: 14 Jul 1993 02:44:57 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <21vrv9$9sj@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <mdixon.742616016@thelonius> mdixon@parc.xerox.com (Mike Dixon) writes: > > So I'm looking for dock extenders... > > i use TickleService's "Lauch App..." service. no icons, no alternate > dock, no mouse action -- just cmd-A, type the first character of the > app, and hit return. > > of course, TickleServices has hundreds of other features to recommend it, > but that particular one makes dock extenders irrelevant as far as i'm > concerned. While I have (and have paid for) TickleServices, and it does have many many useful features to recommend it, the "Launch App..." service is not a satisfactory replacement for dock extenders. It does nothing to hide the icons of running applications, it does nothing for automatically launching applications when you log in, it doesn't organize applications by any criteria, it isn't good if you have multiple versions of an application (all of which have the same name), and it doesn't do a lot of other things that are nice features of Engage or Metrotools. The "Launch App..." service is quite useful, but it isn't a replacement for dock extenders. (just my opinion, obviously) -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) Subject: Re: Afp? Message-ID: <1993Jul14.071256.3383@csus.edu> Sender: news@csus.edu Organization: San Francisco State University References: <CA3z7w.2y3@tegra.com> Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1993 07:12:56 GMT In article <CA3z7w.2y3@tegra.com> Allan <morrison@tegra.com> writes: >Does anybody know how to make a NeXT Cube act as an AFP >server? Yes. Watch for an announcement later this summer. -=EPS=-
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: markp@vostok (Mark Pundurs) Subject: Re: X Windows on NeXT Summary? Message-ID: <markp.742671441@vostok> Sender: news@wri.com Organization: Wolfram Research, Inc. References: <51849@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1993 17:37:21 GMT deborah@cs.ucsd.edu (Deborah K. Swanberg) writes: >I've looked at FAQ lists, and in multiple usenet groups, but I haven't >been able to find a very good summary of the different applications >available to run X Windows on my NeXT machine, so please excuse the >beginner question. You're excused -- I didn't know there was more than one such application! >Many years ago, something was available to run a X Window server on a >Next that opened a window on the Next for the application. This is all >I need. Is something like this still available? If so, where, what, >how much, etc. is it? Sounds like co-Xist. Available from: Pencom Software 9050 Cpaital of Texas Highway North Austin, TX 78759 tel: (512) 343-1111 fax: (512) 343-9650 I don't know the price. -- Mark Pundurs any resemblance between my opinions and those of Wolfram Research, Inc. is purely coincidental
Message-ID: <fr$@byu.edu> Date: Wed, 14 Jul 93 09:11:35 MDT From: pmarc@wyoming.et.byu.edu (Paul M. Cardon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Distribution: world References: <51849@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> <markp.742671441@vostok> Organization: Brigham Young University, Provo UT USA Subject: Re: X Windows on NeXT Summary? In article <markp.742671441@vostok>, markp@vostok (Mark Pundurs) writes: >deborah@cs.ucsd.edu (Deborah K. Swanberg) writes: > > >>I've looked at FAQ lists, and in multiple usenet groups, but I haven't >>been able to find a very good summary of the different applications >>available to run X Windows on my NeXT machine, so please excuse the >>beginner question. > >You're excused -- I didn't know there was more than one such >application! Well actually, there is more than one. Cub'X X-Windows. This on a level with co-Xist and is faster in most areas. They have also just released an intel version. There is also a public domain X-server called mouseX which is also X11R5 but unlike the commercial options you don't get Motif. You can find Demos and more info for the Cub'X products by anonymous ftp from cs.orst.edu in /pub/next/submissions and /pub/next/XNeXT. All of the mouseX stuff is also in the /pub/next/XNeXT directory. There is also another commercial product, eXodus which hasn't impressed me nearly as much as the other two. If you opt for a commercial package, call Pencom and Cub'X (I don't know the number for the Cub'X distributor here in the states but it is probably in the demo packages) for their educational pricing if this applies to you. >>Many years ago, something was available to run a X Window server on a >>Next that opened a window on the Next for the application. This is all >>I need. Is something like this still available? If so, where, what, >>how much, etc. is it? > >Sounds like co-Xist. Available from: > >Pencom Software >9050 Cpaital of Texas Highway North >Austin, TX 78759 >tel: (512) 343-1111 >fax: (512) 343-9650 > >I don't know the price. >-- >Mark Pundurs > >any resemblance between my opinions and those >of Wolfram Research, Inc. is purely coincidental
From: sxl2259@ultb.isc.rit.edu (S.X. Li) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: [Q] News Reader Under NeXT Message-ID: <1993Jul14.152412.5164@ultb.isc.rit.edu> Date: 14 Jul 93 15:24:12 GMT Sender: news@ultb.isc.rit.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology Hello, Folks, I am not a NeXT user, but very interesting to know what kind of news reader is popular used for NeXT. Does it support the thread mode to read the news? or not? Just like to rn/trn which is run under Unix. Is there any BIG difference between Unix and NeXT OS? Any comment will be highly appreciated. -Bravo,
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jpowell@borg.lib.vt.edu (James Powell) Subject: Re: X Windows on NeXT Summary? Message-ID: <1993Jul14.161107.2006@ecsvax.uncecs.edu> Sender: usenet@ecsvax.uncecs.edu (News Administrator) Organization: UNC Educational Computing Service References: <markp.742671441@vostok> Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1993 16:11:07 GMT In article <markp.742671441@vostok> markp@vostok (Mark Pundurs) writes: > deborah@cs.ucsd.edu (Deborah K. Swanberg) writes: > > > >I've looked at FAQ lists, and in multiple usenet groups, but I haven't > >been able to find a very good summary of the different applications > >available to run X Windows on my NeXT machine, so please excuse the > >beginner question. .. How many X implementations are commercially available for NS/FIP? -- James Powell >>> Library Automation, University Libraries, VPI&SU >>> JPOWELL@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU >>> jpowell@borg.lib.vt.edu - NeXTMail welcome here >>> Owner of VPIEJ-L, a discussion list for Electronic >>> Journals
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: peter@cosy.sbg.ac.at (Peter Burgstaller) Subject: GL-Viewer for NeXTSTeP ?? Message-ID: <CA5x99.4ML@cosy.sbg.ac.at> Sender: news@cosy.sbg.ac.at Organization: University of Salzburg / Austria Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1993 16:17:32 GMT Hi folks! Has anyone a GL-viewer for NeXTSTeP *something like xgrasp for X* Thanks in advance! - Peter -- /--------------------------------------------------------\ | Peter Burgstaller| Student of Computerscience | | (peter@cosy.sbg.ac.at)| in Salzburg, Austria (Europe) | | "So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish" (Douglas Adams) | \--------------------------------------------------------/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) Subject: Icon.app under NS3.1 Message-ID: <1993Jul14.165355.21726@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: DSO, Stanford University Date: Wed, 14 Jul 93 16:53:55 GMT Several people, including myself, have posted that Icon.app, as patched to work under 3.0, no longer works under 3.1. It does work if you turn Public Window Server on in Preferences (Thanks to Scott Hess for the tip). Since this is a security risk, you may want to turn it back off after you're done using Icon. -- - Stefano Pagiola Food Research Institute, Stanford University spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged) spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
From: nagler@wat2213.ucr.edu (jonathan nagler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: postscript to .hp??? Keywords: postscript, hp Message-ID: <34069@galaxy.ucr.edu> Date: 14 Jul 93 17:07:05 GMT Sender: news@galaxy.ucr.edu I know the answer to this should be no, but is there a way to convert .ps files to something that can be printed by people with non-postscript hp laserjets (i.e., to ".hp" files)?? jonathan nagler nagler@wat2213.ucr.edu; assistant professor [NextMail Okay] department of political science IP: 138.23.106.51 university of california Voice: (909) 787-7258 riverside, ca. 92521-0118 Fax : (909) 787-3933
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: daruvala@shakti.ncst.ernet.in (Delsys) Subject: next contact Message-ID: <CA5H8v.Mp3@shakti.ncst.ernet.in> Organization: National Centre for Software Technology, India Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1993 10:31:43 GMT can anyone give me an email/fax contact for international marketing at next ?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bhill@physics.ucla.edu (Brian Hill) Subject: Re: postscript to .hp??? In-Reply-To: nagler@wat2213.ucr.edu's message of 14 Jul 93 17:07:05 GMT Message-ID: <BHILL.93Jul14115410@spike.physics.ucla.edu> Sender: usenet@physics.ucla.edu Organization: Dept. of Physics, UCLA References: <34069@galaxy.ucr.edu> Date: 14 Jul 93 11:54:10 In article <34069@galaxy.ucr.edu> nagler@wat2213.ucr.edu (jonathan nagler) writes: > I know the answer to this should be no, but is there > a way to convert .ps files to something that can be > printed by people with non-postscript hp laserjets > (i.e., to ".hp" files)?? Unless you count converting the postscript file to a bitmap and then having the hp print the bitmap, the answer is no. This is discussed in the comp.sys.hp newsgroup regularly. --Brian Hill
Newsgroups: comp.mail.multi-media,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.sun.apps From: drew@mtu.edu (Andrew Benson) Subject: NeXTmail and Sun's mail attachments Message-ID: <1993Jul14.175124.4879@mtu.edu> Sender: news@mtu.edu Organization: Michigan Technological University Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1993 17:51:24 GMT Hi -- I'm using Sun's Open Windows 3.0 Mailtool program, which supports 'attachments' in mail -- pictures, voice, etc.. NeXT also has a similar thing, but it's not compatible. Is there any way to convert them? I mean, I can go uudecode it myself, uncompress it, untar it, and then finally look at the picture, or play the audio file, but is there a simpler way? I suppose the best way would be a way to configure Mailtool to do it for me. Ideas? Thanks, Andrew Benson (drew@mtu.edu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: nikos@cs.cornell.edu (Nikos P. Pitsianis) Subject: Is it possible to install NS3.0 without a floppy drive? Message-ID: <1993Jul14.193628.5527@cs.cornell.edu> Followup-To: nikos@cs.cornell.edu Sender: news@cs.cornell.edu (USENET news user) Organization: Cornell University, CS Dept., Ithaca, NY Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1993 19:36:28 GMT Hi Net people, Is it possible to install NS3.0 without a floppy drive? Just using the OD and the CD-rom. No access to network. Supposing that the floppy contents are on the OD somehow... Thank you -- Nikos
From: john@klein.Mines.Colorado.EDU (John Stockwell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: office database manager for NeXT Message-ID: <1993Jul14.184659.25702@slate.mines.colorado.edu> Date: 14 Jul 93 18:46:59 GMT Sender: news@slate.mines.colorado.edu Organization: Colorado School of Mines Hello, I am interested in finding an office database managing program for the NeXT. This would be for telephone numbers, addresses, and the like. I have an old advertisement for a package called "SBook" by: Simson Garfinkel & Associates in Cambridge Mass. This application looks perfect for our needs, but when I tried calling their number I found that it has been disconnected. (I called information to try to get a line on their new number, without luck, so I have to assume they have gone out of business.) Does anybody out there know if it is possible to still get SBook? Can you recommend an alternative program? Please respond via e-mail to: john@dix.mines.colorado.edu Thanks in advance, John Stockwell Center for Wave Phenomena Golden, CO 80401 john@dix.mines.colorado.edu
From: lones@lones.mit.edu (Lones A. Smith) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: VIRUS CHECKING ON THE NeXT Date: 14 Jul 1993 19:55:16 GMT Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology Message-ID: <221ob4$6fj@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Today, I gave someone a Mac Diskette that I usually use either at home on my (unnetworked) SE/30 or here, and a virus was detected by their Mac. I know this is a different file system, but in general, does the NeXT check for viruses on diskettes, etc.? -- Lones A. Smith Department of Economics MIT E52-252C Cambridge MA 02139 v-mail: (617) 253-0914
From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: .z files (again - sorry) Message-ID: <69306@mimsy.umd.edu> Date: 14 Jul 93 20:51:33 GMT References: <21vk66$ki@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Sender: news@mimsy.umd.edu Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742 In article <21vk66$ki@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> mconners@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael R Conners) writes: > A week or so ago *someone* wrote out the recipe to get Workspace Manager > recognize .z files and appropriately unzip them. > Would they (or whomever) mind posting that recipe again? one good way to do this - any many other customizations is to get TickleServices.app from sonata. it comes with a gzip command that works within WorkSpace. The $20 shareware fee for students is a bargain. -- Alex Blakemore alex@cs.umd.edu NeXT mail accepted -------------------------------------------------------------- "Without an engaged and motivated human being at the keyboard, the computer is just another dumb box." William Raspberry
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: peter@corsica (Peter Eisch) Subject: Re: net.opinion on dock extenders Message-ID: <CA6Kqw.6Dt@news.cis.umn.edu> Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: University of Minnesota References: <mdixon.742616016@thelonius> <21vrv9$9sj@usenet.rpi.edu> Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1993 00:43:31 GMT But you don't have be a rocket scientist (or even a mildly macho programmer) to instruct TickleServices to do what you want. (Including just about anything dock extenders do. I hacked PostScript before ObjC (or tcl) so blasting windows around on the screen is 'trivial'.) Scott is always quick to remind me that I have a brain and can figure out how to do the stuff I do need to do without spending too much time on it... Again, just an opinion. But I also can make more money as a programmer now because I don't have to type "/*" and "*" and "*/" over and over and over... I've added a command-key equiv to the Format Comment command and blammo I can afford to actually take time to comment my code!!!! I know I'm rambling, but it's just too cool... peter Garance A. Drosehn (gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu) wrote: : mdixon@parc.xerox.com (Mike Dixon) writes: : > > So I'm looking for dock extenders... : > : > i use TickleService's "Lauch App..." service. no icons, no alternate : > dock, no mouse action -- just cmd-A, type the first character of the : > app, and hit return. : > : > of course, TickleServices has hundreds of other features to recommend it, : > but that particular one makes dock extenders irrelevant as far as i'm : > concerned. : While I have (and have paid for) TickleServices, and it does have many many : useful features to recommend it, the "Launch App..." service is not a : satisfactory replacement for dock extenders. It does nothing to hide the : icons of running applications, it does nothing for automatically launching : applications when you log in, it doesn't organize applications by any : criteria, it isn't good if you have multiple versions of an application (all : of which have the same name), and it doesn't do a lot of other things that : are nice features of Engage or Metrotools. : The "Launch App..." service is quite useful, but it isn't a replacement for : dock extenders. (just my opinion, obviously) : -- : Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu : ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) : Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA -- I felt his rocket science training was inadequate. peter@tahiti.umhc.umn.edu (Peter Eisch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software From: balu@jensen.cc.brandeis.edu (t balasubramanian) Subject: Help Subprocess Message-ID: <1993Jul15.002926.13197@news.cs.brandeis.edu> Sender: news@news.cs.brandeis.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Brandeis University Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1993 00:29:26 GMT Hi, This is probably a very simple question about the Subprocess program in \NextDeveloper\Examples\Unix\Subprocess. I am interested in including a button in the main NibFile ; when I click this button I want a command to be sent to the scroll window ( for example some text like ls). It should then execute that command like it does when one types the command in the scroll window. With my minimal amount of programming knowledge I tried all I can do and can't make this to work. Can someone who is more knowledgeable - please let me know how to do this and preferably send me a sample code. Thanks very much T. Balu
From: dabell@dabell-next.umd.edu (Dan T. Abell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Tunes from the CDROM drive (CDPlayer.app FAQ) Date: 15 Jul 1993 01:33:30 GMT Organization: University of Maryland, College Park Distribution: world Message-ID: <222c5a$fip@umd5.umd.edu> References: <21vjha$6ph@usenet.rpi.edu> In article <21vjha$6ph@usenet.rpi.edu> gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) writes: > > [...lotsa stuff deleted...] > > I futzed around a little last night and > figured out how to run CDPlayer.app *without* turning on Public Window > Server, and *without* restricting which device the CD-ROM drive must be. > > It turns out you can specify which device CDPlayer.app should to use when it > starts up (in fact, that's all method #2 is really doing). You just have to > give CDPlayer.app a text file which contains the name of the device that it > should use. Note the text file needs to be *just* that device name (no > characters after it, including linefeeds or carriage-returns). Also note > that you have to have write access to that file (even though the program > doesn't seem to write to the file). > > If you check the file /usr/filesystems/cdaudio.fs/cdaudio.device, you should > see a file with the right format. Unfortunately that file is owned by root, > and other userids don't have write access to it. So, what I did was copy > that file to a file in my home directory with the command: > > cp -p /usr/filesystems/cdaudio.fs/cdaudio.device ~/SetUp/cdaudio.device > > This gives me a file that I have write access to (it'd probably be a good > idea to check and see if this file lists the right unix device name to get > to your CD-ROM drive, in my case it's /dev/rsd2h). **** How do we check this? **** > > I then created a simple shell script named Start_CD that has the following > two lines in it (the second line is probably wrapped in this usenet article, > sorry about that...): > > #!/bin/sh > /NextDeveloper/Demos/CDPlayer.app/CDPlayer -NXOpen > ~gad/SetUp/cdaudio.device & > > and put that shell script in a directory that's in my PATH (in my case, it's > in /usr/local/bin/Start_CD). Then all I have to do is type Start_CD as a > unix command and CDPlayer.app will start up and ask me to insert a disk in > "external disk 2". Once I do that, I'm merrily playing my music CD's. > >[... other stuff deleted ...] > > -- > Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu > ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) > Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA Well I tried this, but it doesn't work for me. I'm certainly becoming frustrated trying to get my system to find the CD-ROM drive so that CDPlayer will work. I have an internal drive (SCSI target id 1), an external drive which is the boot device (SCSI target id 0), and a NeXT CD-ROM (SCSI target id 6 [but I also tried a target id of 2 as well]). On booting, I see the message .. : SONY CD-ROM CDU-541 Rev 2.6a as sd2 at sc0 target 6 lun 0 Furthermore, when I insert a CD-ROM, my NeXT recognizes it. But when I insert a CD-Audio disk---even as root(!)---the drive spits it back out at me. And if I try to launch CDPlayer.app---again, even as root(!)---an Alert Panel pops up with that irritating message we're all complaining about "Couldn't open the CD-ROM drive." I have followed the current thread fairly closely and have not yet figured out what I might be doing wrong. Please lend me any ideas you have. THANX!! -- Dan T. Abell (dabell@dabell-next.umd.edu) Department of Physics, University of Maryland College Park, MD 20742
Control: cancel <CRESPO.93Jul14191927@hpvclic.vcd.hp.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: crespo@vcd.hp.com (Ivan Crespo) Subject: cancel <CRESPO.93Jul14191927@hpvclic.vcd.hp.com> Sender: news@vcd.hp.com (News user) Message-ID: <CRESPO.93Jul14192215@hpvclic.vcd.hp.com> Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1993 03:22:15 GMT Organization: HP Vancouver Division Vancouver,WA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: crespo@vcd.hp.com (Ivan Crespo) Subject: Re: Tunes from the CDROM drive (CDPlayer.app FAQ) Sender: news@vcd.hp.com (News user) Message-ID: <CRESPO.93Jul14193208@hpvclic.vcd.hp.com> In-Reply-To: dabell@dabell-next.umd.edu's message of 15 Jul 1993 01:33:30 GMT Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1993 03:32:08 GMT References: <21vjha$6ph@usenet.rpi.edu> <222c5a$fip@umd5.umd.edu> Organization: HP Vancouver Division Vancouver,WA Well, CDPlayer.app is certainly the worst demo program I have ever seen... I fought with it for a while back when I first got NSFIP running, and with some help I was able to at least get it to find the CD-ROM. But it can't get it to play anything. After lunching it by hand it asks for a CD, I put one in and hit the play button it just lights up for a little while and then it just stops. On top of this, when CDPlayer is up things move veryyyyyyyy slowwwwwwly. So I gave given up for now, maybe one of these days I will get some more time to mess with it, but in the mean time; It's getting a little embarrasing having my fancy NS machine booted with MS-DOS whenever I want to listen to music :-) i. -- NextMail to: crespo@hpvcric.vcd.hp.com Non NextMail to: crespo@vcd.hp.com
From: martin@hagi.noguchi.riec.tohoku.ac.jp (martin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Kanji frontend for the NeXT Date: 15 Jul 93 14:25:29 Organization: Shiratori Lab., Tohoku Univ., Sendai, Japan Distribution: comp Message-ID: <MARTIN.93Jul15142529@hagi.noguchi.riec.tohoku.ac.jp> Hi there, Here's a question concerning the multi-language capabilities of the NeXT machine. I'm currently a Student of Tohoku University in Sendai, Japan, and would like to use my NeXT station at home to write letters etc. in Japanese. I already saw a Kanji front- end on some machines, but I couldn't figure out where it came from. As I cannot affort an expensive commercial implementation I still hope I can find one in the public domain. It seems there is one arround using X, but I couldn't find out where to get ONE COMPLETE SET OF COMPATIBLE FILES FROM. (One thing that might add to the problem is that I'm still running NS 2.1.) However, I don't insist on using X --- if there is some software available to supply NS 2.1 with a Kanji frontend I'd also be happy with that. Can anybody help me? Thanks, Martin -- ************************************************************************* //\/ phone: +81-22-227-6200 ext.341 // o Martin Moser fax: +81-22-263-9848 email: martin@noguchi.riec.tohoku.ac.jp 980 Aoba-ku, 2-1-1 Katahira, Tohoku University, Shiratori Lab., Japan *************************************************************************
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: botma@cs.utwente.nl (Bart Botma) Subject: Re: problem installing NSI on Insight ("No CD-ROM") Message-ID: <1993Jul15.074625.9365@cs.utwente.nl> Sender: usenet@cs.utwente.nl Organization: University of Twente, Dept. of Computer Science References: <CA4I83.JFn@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1993 07:46:25 GMT I got the same messages with my et4000/eisa/dpt/toshiba system. I'm now waiting for my ATI card before trying to fix these problems. But if you get any clues/suggestions/solutions please post/mail them. Bart -- ___/T\_______ Bart Botma, botma@cs.utwente.nl, University of Twente ,--_ |___\I/ _ __| Department of Computer Science, Tele-Informatics & /)_( ) | | O / \ (_ | Open Systems Group, P.O.Box 217, NL-7500 AE, Enschede (___ / |_|__S_\_/___)| The Netherlands,phone:+31-53-893755,fax:+31-53-333815 =/ \)
From: arrigo@cube.sublink.org (Arrigo Benedetti) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.windows.x Subject: Problems compiling X program on NeXT Message-ID: <1993Jul14.183216.178@cube.sublink.org> Date: 14 Jul 93 18:32:16 GMT Sender: arrigo@cube.sublink.org Organization: Arrigo Benedetti I have some troubles compiling xtexcad 1.2 on my NeXT cube running 3.0 and MouseX X11R5. The sources compiles with a lot of warnings but the linker says: /arrigo/tex/texcad% make -f Makefile.std cad cc -s -o xtexcad oberfl.o ereignis.o file_sel.o pickedit.o graphics.o io_trans.o yyscan.o -lXaw -lXmu -lXt -lXext -lX11 -lm -ll /bin/ld: Undefined symbols: __XExtensionErrorFunction *** Exit 1 Stop. I did not find any reference of the __XExtensionErrorFunction symbol in the sources, and, as I'm not an X wizard, I'm giving up. Does anyone know what's the problem? If I come to compile it succesfully I will post the patches and/or upload it to the archives. Thanks, Arrigo Benedetti -- Arrigo Benedetti e-mail: arrigo@cube.sublink.org (preferred) University of Bologna benedett@deis01.cineca.it Tel: (home) +39 59 224929 (office) +39 59 216688 (fax) +39 59 220727 - I WILL DESIGN CHIPS FOR FOOD! -
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: wfc@cl.cam.ac.uk (William Clocksin) Subject: AVAILABLE: Music Notation Examples in PostScript Message-ID: <1993Jul15.140421.25612@infodev.cam.ac.uk> Sender: news@infodev.cam.ac.uk (USENET news) Organization: U of Cambridge, England Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1993 14:04:21 GMT Sample files of PostScript output from the Calliope music notation editor are available by anonymous FTP. Each file is a complete musical work of about 2 or so pages exhibiting some of the capabilities of Calliope. They have all been produced using Calliope's default parameters, and have not been manually altered, retouched, or improved in any way. The files are all in PostScript, and require the following fonts in addition to Times and Symbol: New Century Schoolbook (Adobe font available from RightBrain) Sonata (Adobe font available from RightBrain) Calliope (supplied on the same archive directory) The files will not be legible unless these files are installed. Samples as of 15 July 1993: allison-ourfather.ps A setting of the Lord's Prayer by Richard Allison (1599) for four voices and broken (English) consort. Demonstrates tablatures for various intruments and closed-up formatting of large note values. daGagliano-Ofelice.ps From Da Gagliano's Ballo di Donne Turche (1614) Demonstrates hidden verses. danyels-like.ps A lute song by John Danyels (1614). Demonstrates beamed lute tablatures. dowland-forlorn.ps A keyboard arrangement of John Dowland's Forlorn Hope Fancy. Demonstrates multiple voice notation. Emphasis: all formatting, including resolving collisions of multiple voices and the placement of simultaneous chords (and their accidentals, dots, etc), was done entirely automatically, without manual intervention. fresco-dove.ps A monodic song from Frescobaldi's Arie Musicali (1630). Demonstrates figured bass (editorial). kaps-exurgat.ps A solo motet from Kapsberger's Motetti Passeggiati (1612). Demonstrates unequal note group notation (editorial). mass-viii.ps Mass VIII. Demonstrates Gregorian chant notation. posch-intradaV.ps Five-part instrumental piece by Isaac Posch (1621). strogers-Oheav.ps A lutesong probably by Nicholas Strogers (c 1580). Demonstrates lute tablature and automatic formatting of unusually complicated underlay. The file Samples.tar.Z may be obtained by anonymous FTP (automounted, so don't use a browser such as GatorFTP+) in the following way: Ftp to: ftp.cl.cam.ac.uk (that's CL, not c1). Login in as anonymous with your id@address as password cd users/wfc You will see: Calliope.font.tar.Z Documentation.tar.Z Samples.tar.Z Get the documentation (which can only be read if the fonts listed above are installed) if you haven't already. ---------------------------------------------------- W.F. Clocksin, Assistant Director of Research, Computer Laboratory, University of Cambridge Pembroke Street, Cambridge CB2 3QG, U.K. Internet: wfc@CL.cam.ac.uk (NeXTMail is acceptable) Tel UK: (0223) 334628. Tel (Int'l): +44 223-334628. Fax UK: (0223) 334678. Fax (Int'l): +44 223-334678.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bill@bilver.uucp (Bill Vermillion) Subject: Re: .z files versus .Z files Organization: W. J. Vermillion - Orlando / Winter Park, FL Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1993 15:24:43 GMT Message-ID: <1993Jul15.152443.23752@bilver.uucp> References: <1993Jul8.061904.27781@csus.edu> <4O8EBYAU@gwdu03.gwdg.de> In article <4O8EBYAU@gwdu03.gwdg.de> trebels@theo-phys.gwdg.de writes: >Hi, >normally I agree with EPS's posts, but this time there should >be an answer! >> The vast majority of UNIX systems on the planet still use pack >OOPS, most of them *have* pack, but be honest, have you ever >seen anybody use it? I never saw anyone. compress is standard, ok, >but who ever used pack in the last five years? Even more important, >why should someone ever want to create pack files *today*? I have done work at one site, that up until last year used pack. They had a system that had pack, and they had no c compiler to build compress. (this was pre-gzip). And on other system that uses it, does have a c compiler, but I think the gzip code would choke it. Can you say 1983 Unix System III running on a Z8000 processor - 8 users and 512K of ram. He is finally replacing that system this year. If you need to put code into one of those machines, pack helps - it gets about 30% compression max. I just tested it. A 90k file went to 65K. compress took it to 40k and gzip to about 28k. Backward compatibility is the name of this game. >> (which unquestionably does not violate anyone's intellectual >> property rights) and .z is RESERVED for this format. >Do you propose any extension ever used by any wide spread program >should be reserved? I think, .z has become free as it is no >longer being created. No longer being created by people with the newer machines. There are still hunks of old iron out there. -- Bill Vermillion - bill@bilver.uucp OR bill@bilver.oau.org
Newsgroups: comp.mail.multi-media,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.sun.apps From: co017418@mmc.mmmg.com (Paul T. Root) Subject: Re: NeXTmail and Sun's mail attachments Message-ID: <1993Jul15.154528.5121@mail.mmmg.com> Followup-To: comp.mail.multi-media,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.sun.apps Sender: news@mail.mmmg.com (Net News Administrator) Organization: 3M/Metal Matrix Composites Department References: <1993Jul14.175124.4879@mtu.edu> Date: Thu, 15 Jul 93 15:45:28 GMT Andrew Benson (drew@mtu.edu) wrote: : Hi -- I'm using Sun's Open Windows 3.0 Mailtool program, which : supports 'attachments' in mail -- pictures, voice, etc.. NeXT : also has a similar thing, but it's not compatible. Is there any : way to convert them? I mean, I can go uudecode it myself, uncompress : it, untar it, and then finally look at the picture, or play the audio : file, but is there a simpler way? I suppose the best way would be a : way to configure Mailtool to do it for me. : Ideas? They aren't at all compatible. But unpacking it would let you see the stuff. NeXT's generally have pictures in tiff, so you need a tiff viewer, probably xv will do it. The audio files usually are playable on either system. Text for the NeXT is the biggest problem, you'll need a Rich Text viewer/editor. I don't know where to get that. And yes, you can uudecode, uncompress, untar it yourself. I wrote a script that does this for you. I wrote it as a .forward script, but it must be used in conjunction with another filter (I used elm's) or your non-NeXT mail will drop on the floor, making a big mess. :-) I don't have must reason to fix it as I don't use NeXTs anymore. If you're interested, I'll send it to you. Oh, its written in perl, one of my first efforts, so it isn't as elegant as Larry might have done it... : Thanks, : Andrew Benson (drew@mtu.edu) Paul. -- Paul T. Root Nycor Corp ptroot@mmc.mmmg.com If you never make it off of the merry-go-round of lower-existence, then at least you have a great time! - Rubo C. Gari
From: dabell@dabell-next.umd.edu (Dan T. Abell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Tunes from the CDROM drive (CDPlayer.app FAQ) -- Tunes work!! Date: 15 Jul 1993 21:44:09 GMT Organization: University of Maryland, College Park Distribution: world Message-ID: <224j39$87f@umd5.umd.edu> References: <222c5a$fip@umd5.umd.edu> In article <222c5a$fip@umd5.umd.edu> dabell@dabell-next.umd.edu (Dan T. Abell) [that's me] writes: > In article <21vjha$6ph@usenet.rpi.edu> gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu > (Garance A. Drosehn) writes: > > > > [...lotsa stuff deleted...] > > > > I futzed around a little last night and figured out how to > > run CDPlayer.app *without* turning on Public Window Server, > > and *without* restricting which device the CD-ROM drive must be. > > > > It turns out you can specify which device CDPlayer.app should > > to use when it starts up (in fact, that's all method #2 is > > really doing). You just have to give CDPlayer.app a text file > > which contains the name of the device that it should use. Note > > the text file needs to be *just* that device name (no characters > > after it, including linefeeds or carriage-returns). Also note > > that you have to have write access to that file (even though the > > program doesn't seem to write to the file). > > > > If you check the file /usr/filesystems/cdaudio.fs/cdaudio.device, > > you should see a file with the right format. Unfortunately that > > file is owned by root, and other userids don't have write access > > to it. So, what I did was copy that file to a file in my home > > directory with the command: > > > > cp -p /usr/filesystems/cdaudio.fs/cdaudio.device ~/SetUp/cdaudio.device > > > > This gives me a file that I have write access to (it'd probably > > be a good idea to check and see if this file lists the right > > unix device name to get to your CD-ROM drive, in my case it's > > /dev/rsd2h). > > > > I then created a simple shell script named Start_CD that has > > the following two lines in it (the second line is probably wrapped > > in this usenet > > article, sorry about that...): > > > > #!/bin/sh > > /NextDeveloper/Demos/CDPlayer.app/CDPlayer -NXOpen > > ~gad/SetUp/cdaudio.device & > > > > and put that shell script in a directory that's in my PATH > > (in my case, it's in /usr/local/bin/Start_CD). Then all I have > > to do is type Start_CD as a unix command and CDPlayer.app will > > start up and ask me to insert a disk in "external disk 2". > > Once I do that, I'm merrily playing my music CD's. > > > >[... other stuff deleted ...] > > > > -- > > Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu > > ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) > > Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA > > [... more stuff deleted about how frustrated I was that this > did not work for me...] > G.A.D. was kind enough to e-mail me directly about another trick: gad> Open up a Unix window, and then type the command: gad> gad> dwrite CDPlayer CDDrive /dev/rsd2h gad> gad> Then see if launching the CDPlayer program works. Well this did not work for me either. But *NOW* when I use the earlier trick of creating the shell script NOW CDPlayer works. G.A.D. does not see why both tricks should be necessary (and I don't understand why either trick should be necessary :-)), but FWIW I pass this info along. Hopes this helps anyone else still struggling with this problem. -- Dan T. Abell (dabell@dabell-next.umd.edu) Department of Physics, University of Maryland College Park, MD 20742
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: net.opinion on dock extenders Date: 15 Jul 1993 22:00:11 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <224k1c$q63@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <CA6Kqw.6Dt@news.cis.umn.edu> peter@corsica (Peter Eisch) writes: > But you don't have be a rocket scientist (or even a mildly macho > programmer) to instruct TickleServices to do what you want. > (Including just about anything dock extenders do. I hacked > PostScript before ObjC (or tcl) so blasting windows around on > the screen is 'trivial'.) It depends on what you want to do. I know what Metrotools can do, and I've now seen an example of what the latest version of Engage can do. By the time you get a TickeService to do as nice a job of being a dock extender as either of these programs, you'll have wasted enough time that it would have been worth your while to just buy a regular dock extender. > Scott is always quick to remind me that I have a brain and can > figure out how to do the stuff I do need to do without spending > too much time on it... TickleServices is great for quick little jobs that are not worth writing a real application for. That doesn't mean it's the best way to implement every possible task. You're going to end up with a services menu that fills up your screen, which seems pretty silly. You can't implement everything as a service. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: lusty@lusty.tamu.edu (Lusty Wench) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: TransSys SLIP for NS/I? Date: 15 Jul 1993 22:46:43 GMT Organization: Me Message-ID: <224moj$ng9@tamsun.tamu.edu> I seem to recall seeing a plea for Louis Mamakos to compile a fat binary of his SLIP package for NeXTstep. Since I can't find it anywhere, I assume this is not yet available. The unreliable serial driver notwithstanding, is anyone running a SLIP implementation on NS/I? If so, what are you using? I haven't been able to find one that will compile. Diana
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programming From: bebeada@elof.iit.edu(Adam Beberg) Subject: Looking for a MOD player for NeXTSTEP Message-ID: <1993Jul16.022736.29640@iitmax.iit.edu> Sender: news@iitmax.iit.edu (News) Organization: Illinois Institute of Technology / Academic Computing Center Date: Fri, 16 Jul 93 02:27:36 GMT Greetings NeXT lovers... I am searching for a mod file ( the sound file format ) player... that summs it up, please send me mail if you have one... - Multa renascentur quae iam cecidere, cadentque | Adam Beberg. Quae nunc sunt in honore vocabula, si volet usus, | Golden Sphinx (tm) Quem penes arbitrium est et ius et norma loquendi. | bebeada@elof.iit.edu ))) In Sterio Where Available ((( | NeXTMail Welcome.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: coconut@crash.cts.com (Brian Dear) Subject: Adobe Fonts -- discontinued? Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA Date: 15 Jul 93 21:22:27 PDT Message-ID: <1993Jul15.212227.11182@crash> Can anyone confirm something I heard today -- that Font packages from Adobe have been officially discontinued for NeXT, at least for NeXT machines (don't know about NEXTSTEP/Intel)?
From: wrob@unixg.ubc.ca (Robert Wong) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Printing NeXTSTEP on-line help Date: 16 Jul 1993 07:10:40 GMT Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada Message-ID: <225k9gINN2vj@skeena.ucs.ubc.ca> Hi. I've got a couple of programs that use only NeXTSTEP help and there is no manual. Is there any way that one can print out all of the on-line help and use it as a manual? RWW. -- Robert W. Wong Jr. wrob@unixg.ubc.ca (ASCII only) Crasher of Automated Banking Machines and Keeper of the ZyXEL FAQ
From: ruppert@next1.rz.fh-heilbronn.de (Michael Ruppert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: CASE TOOL ??? Date: 16 Jul 1993 13:53:34 GMT Organization: FH Heilbronn (Rechenzentrum) News Message-ID: <226bsu$9be@risc1.rz.fh-heilbronn.de> HALLO out there, I m looking for a case tool. It should run on neXT STep 3.X on a NeXT Qube. If anybody has some information please drop me a mail. Thanks Michael Ruppert.
From: ruppert@next1.rz.fh-heilbronn.de (Michael Ruppert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Case toll ??? Date: 16 Jul 1993 13:54:25 GMT Organization: FH Heilbronn (Rechenzentrum) News Message-ID: <226buh$9bi@risc1.rz.fh-heilbronn.de> HALLO out there, I m looking for a case tool. It should run on neXT STep 3.X on a NeXT Qube. If anybody has some information please drop me a mail. Thanks Michael Ruppert.
From: yygold@yadin.phyast.pitt.edu (Yadin Y. Goldschmidt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Broken Applications? Message-ID: <16642@blue.cis.pitt.edu> Date: 16 Jul 93 13:32:27 GMT Sender: news+@pitt.edu I have recently encountered problems with two applications that used to work fine. 1. Weather no longer displays weather maps. It can not fetch the gif images. This may be due to a change in the name convention of maps on the server. Is there a solution or a newer version? Do other people have this problem? 2. Gopher 1.3.2 Does not open terminal window for telnet. I think this happend after upgrading to 3.1 OS. When e.g. going to the directory phonebooks/e-mail addresses/ and trying to connect to the bolder colorado server I get a panel: login as netfind and after clicking ok, nothing happens. Again do you have this problem? Any solution? Thanks. yygold@yadin.phyast.pitt.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jheiser@adobe.com (James Heiser) Subject: Re: Adobe Fonts -- discontinued? Message-ID: <1993Jul16.151553.10891@adobe.com> Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS) Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated References: <1993Jul15.212227.11182@crash> Distribution: na Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1993 15:15:53 GMT In article <1993Jul15.212227.11182@crash> coconut@crash.cts.com (Brian Dear) writes: > > > Can anyone confirm something I heard today -- that Font packages from > Adobe have been officially discontinued for NeXT, at least for > NeXT machines (don't know about NEXTSTEP/Intel)? > > The Type Set 1, 2, and 3 have been discontinued on ALL platforms for some time now. The Plus Pack was just recently discontinued for ALL platforms. Adobe, in the past, only carried about 30 out of over 300 families for NeXT. Those 30 families are no longer available from Adobe. However, the ENTIRE Type Library will continue to be distributed by RightBrain Software, as it has been in the past. This will provide NeXT users with a much BETTER selection of typefaces, GREAT support through RightBrain, and POSSIBLY LOWER prices since RightBrain frequently has 50% off sales (there is one going on now). Adobe almost always sold typefaces at full list price. RightBrain Software can be reached at (800)472-7246 or (415)326-2974. Hope this helps. -- James Heiser Adobe Systems Incorporated 1585 Charleston Road Mountain View, CA 94043 NeXTmail accepted
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: exw@fmeire.ireland (Emma Williams) Subject: project management software for UNIX Message-ID: <CA9Eqw.IA@frame.frame.com> Sender: news@frame.frame.com Organization: Frame Technology Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1993 13:28:08 GMT Hi everyone, I'm hoping that you might be able to advise me. I need advise/recommendations on suitable project management software that runs on UNIX (X Windows). I'm particularly interested in price, types of other project management file formats it can import from or export to, ease of use and quality of documentation. WE have already reviewed a product called ACCENT GraphicVUE in my dept. which does not meet any of our needs. There must be something out there! What do all you other UNIX people use? Thanks in advance! Emma Williams Research Analyst.
From: scott@nic.gac.edu (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: net.opinion on dock extenders Date: 16 Jul 93 17:06:54 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Distribution: world Message-ID: <SCOTT.93Jul16170654@nic.gac.edu> References: <CA6Kqw.6Dt@news.cis.umn.edu> <224k1c$q63@usenet.rpi.edu> In-reply-to: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu's message of 15 Jul 1993 22:00:11 GMT In article <224k1c$q63@usenet.rpi.edu>, gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) writes: >TickleServices is great for quick little jobs that are not worth >writing a real application for. That doesn't mean it's the best >way to implement every possible task. You're going to end up with >a services menu that fills up your screen, which seems pretty >silly. You can't implement everything as a service. But you can try :-). Seriously, though, as Garance notes, TickleServices is not _meant_ as a general replacement for all possible programs. Instead, it's meant as an easy way to do many custom jobs without having to descend into Objective-C and ProjectBuilder. No matter how easy it is to operate ObjC and PB, it _still_ requires a gawdawful amount of time to go through the edit-compile-run cycle, so much time that sometimes you'd rather just do the job by hand rather than automate it. It certainly wasn't meant to start arguments on the network :-). So far as "Workspace/Launch Apps..." is concerned, it was never meant as a replacement for dock extenders. Fact of the matter is, I had a greater need for easy access to all of my applications some of the time than I do for easy access some of my applications all of the time. Putting all of them into a dock extender would take up way to much screen real estate and way too much time, and just be confusing in the end. I used to just use "open -a Preferences" to launch Preferences, for instance. Now I do Command-Shift-A and hit 'p' until I get to Preferences. In other words, Launch Apps doesn't replace dock extenders for me, because dock extenders didn't really fit with my needs, whereas Launch Apps does. It greatly simplfies _my_ usage of my machine, and if it is useful for others, then all the better. Then again, I only have three apps on my dock, and one of those is TimeMon, so my needs are obviously a bit different than most people's. [I used to have four apps on there. Perhaps I should put IconBounce back?] I suspect that in the general case, Launch Apps would _complement_ the use of a dock extender rather than replace it. Later,
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc From: bebeada@elof.iit.edu(Adam Beberg) Subject: lzh/pkzip/zoo/arc - uncompressor for the NeXT??? Message-ID: <1993Jul17.001116.4229@iitmax.iit.edu> Sender: news@iitmax.iit.edu (News) Organization: Illinois Institute of Technology / Academic Computing Center Date: Sat, 17 Jul 93 00:11:16 GMT Greetings all.... i am looking for an app that will handle some or all of the compression formats in my subject line... basicly the problem is that they are mostly used on PC's not under unix... this is causing me problems getting data from FTP sites -> my NeXT... i have checked the normal FTP sites for NeXT-souce/binarys with no luck if you know of such an app please NeXTMail me.... - Multa renascentur quae iam cecidere, cadentque | Adam Beberg. Quae nunc sunt in honore vocabula, si volet usus, | Golden Sphinx (tm) Quem penes arbitrium est et ius et norma loquendi. | bebeada@elof.iit.edu ))) In Sterio Where Available ((( | NeXTMail Welcome.
From: slv0y@cc.usu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: CMYK tiffs & Color Separation...HELP! Message-ID: <1993Jul16.164100.70100@cc.usu.edu> Date: 16 Jul 93 16:41:00 MDT Organization: Utah State University Is anyone creating negatives on the NeXT and outputting CMYK color separated negatives? If so, what application(s) are you using? I am currently using Virtuoso, but it does not separate RGB Tiff files correctly. It will take a CMYK Tiff file and do that O.K., but now I have to find a program that will output a CMYK tiff. Image will do it, but I have yet to get a good tiff from it. The separation options do not appear to be doing what they say they are, and viewing the different CMYK channels only sometimes shows what is really in that color. A CMYK file saved from Image appears correct on the screen, but when I run a color proof, or negatives and make a color key, it is terrible. It is WAY dark, and changing the separation preferences does not seem to have any effect. Is anyone out there outputting color separated stuff from the NeXT successfully? I need something that can do this, like, yesterday. This job is scheduled to go on the press tuesday... It would be great if Virtuoso would fix it...(Are you listening Lorin. ;-) But in the mean-time...HELP! Your help is greatly appreciated! John Zollinger slv0y@cc.usu.edu
From: zmonster@athena.mit.edu (Eric M Hermanson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Printing Multiple Files, Multiple Terminal Sessions over Modem? Date: 17 Jul 1993 06:59:30 GMT Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology Distribution: world Message-ID: <22880i$ob8@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> I am sure this has been answered before, but does NEXTSTEP 3.x have a way of printing multiple postscript files at once? I had a need to do this today when I wanted to print out a batch of .ps documents, but quickly realized I had to resort to printing them one by one. I know NS lacked batch printing capabilities in the past, but if they haven't fixed it by now, they should be ashamed of themselves! Batch printing is commonplace enough for it to warrant being included at the NS/OS level (without going into UNIX). Secondly, while I am at it, is there a version of kermit that will support *multiple* sessions? I would like to download files while reading mail, etc, in another terminal window. If not kermit, is there any other public domain terminal software that allows multiple sessions over a modem? Thanks, Eric
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: swekla@ee.ualberta.ca (Brent Swekla) Subject: Enough about .z files already! Message-ID: <swekla.742892258@ee.ualberta.ca> Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1993 06:57:38 GMT The latest version of gzip (1.2.3) uses .gz as an extension. Enough said. -- Brent Swekla "I will not take adverbs from a stranger." swekla@ee.ualberta.ca -- Samuel Clemens' gardener
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bruce@TotSysSoft.com (Bruce Gingery) Subject: Re: Looking for a MOD player for NeXTSTEP Message-ID: <1993Jul17.124003.5444@ToTSySSoft.com> Sender: news@ToTSySSoft.com Organization: Total System Software References: <1993Jul16.022736.29640@iitmax.iit.edu> Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1993 12:40:03 GMT In article <1993Jul16.022736.29640@iitmax.iit.edu> bebeada@elof.iit.edu(Adam Beberg) writes: -> Greetings NeXT lovers... -> -> I am searching for a mod file ( the sound file format ) player... -> that summs it up, please send me mail if you have one... Just tried ModPlayer by Ingo Feulner, Matthias Zepf, and Markus Stoll v2.5 with v3.1 NEXTSTEP... Works! Bruce
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bruce@TotSysSoft.com (Bruce Gingery) Subject: Re: Printing Multiple Files, Multiple Terminal Sessions over Modem? Message-ID: <1993Jul17.125243.6216@ToTSySSoft.com> Sender: news@ToTSySSoft.com Organization: Total System Software References: <22880i$ob8@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1993 12:52:43 GMT In article <22880i$ob8@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> zmonster@athena.mit.edu (Eric M Hermanson) writes: -> I am sure this has been answered before, but does NEXTSTEP 3.x have a way -> of printing multiple postscript files at once? I had a need to do this -> today when I wanted to print out a batch of .ps documents, but quickly -> realized I had to resort to printing them one by one. -> -> I know NS lacked batch printing capabilities in the past, but if they haven't -> fixed it by now, they should be ashamed of themselves! Batch printing -> is commonplace enough for it to warrant being included at the NS/OS level -> (without going into UNIX). A product called ``PageChain'' as I recall ought to fix that request -> Secondly, while I am at it, is there a version of kermit that will support -> *multiple* sessions? I would like to download files while reading mail, -> etc, in another terminal window. If not kermit, is there any other public -> domain terminal software that allows multiple sessions over a modem? C-Kermit can run over SLIP or PPP links as one (or with multiple copies) multiple sessions -- use the -j hostname or set host. Z-Modem can also be run over the same links, or ftp... Bruce
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: fermat@fermat.dartmouth.edu (Michael Glenn) Subject: Re: Looking for a MOD player for NeXTSTEP Message-ID: <CABHno.7rs@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> Sender: news@dartvax.dartmouth.edu (The News Manager) Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH References: <1993Jul17.124003.5444@ToTSySSoft.com> Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1993 16:26:12 GMT In article <1993Jul17.124003.5444@ToTSySSoft.com> bruce@TotSysSoft.com (Bruce Gingery) writes: > In article <1993Jul16.022736.29640@iitmax.iit.edu> > bebeada@elof.iit.edu(Adam Beberg) writes: > -> Greetings NeXT lovers... > -> > -> I am searching for a mod file ( the sound file format ) > -> player... > -> that summs it up, please send me mail if you have one... > Just tried ModPlayer by Ingo Feulner, Matthias Zepf, and > Markus Stoll v2.5 with v3.1 NEXTSTEP... > Works! > > Bruce If you don't mind shareware, try Paula (by Christian Limpach). It works much better. The sound quality seems significantly better for some reason, and it allows you to open multiple .mod files, and cycle through them. Very nice interface. Sorry Paula people for not registering yet. My six week evaluation period has not yet expired. :) (Also, the procedure for getting you money seems to require jumping through a few hoops.) Michael (NeXTMail welcome)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: hussain@artsci.wustl.edu (G. H. Chinoy) Subject: changing ttyp's in Terminal.app Message-ID: <1993Jul17.182323.830@wuecl.wustl.edu> Sender: usenet@wuecl.wustl.edu (News Administrator) Organization: Washington University, School of Engineering, St. Louis MO Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1993 18:23:23 GMT Does anyone know how to do this (it may be more of a unix question): I have a ttyp open on another NeXT. On my present NeXT, I'd like to open the Terminal.app and switch to that ttyp that's on the other NeXT. Is there a way to do this? ________________________________ G. H. Chinoy hussain@artsci.wustl.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Zacharias J. Beckman <zac@dolphin.com> Subject: Re: VIRUS CHECKING ON THE NeXT Message-ID: <1993Jul18.054426.1623@dolphin.com> Sender: zac@dolphin.com Organization: Dolphin Software References: <221ob4$6fj@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Distribution: usa Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1993 05:44:26 GMT Lones A. Smith writes > Today, I gave someone a Mac Diskette that I usually use either at home on > my (unnetworked) SE/30 or here, and a virus was detected by their Mac. I > know this is a different file system, but in general, does the NeXT check > for viruses on diskettes, etc.? 'Fraid not... fortunately, it's much easier to write a virus on a Mac or DOS system than Mach. UNIX has security systems in place which, if properly configured, are nearly impossible to get around. The Mac and DOS have no security features... just about anyone can write a program that will instantly blow away the File Allocation Table--in an instant, destroying all your work. In UNIX, only the root user would have that kind of power... and most people don't use their machines as root, right? :-) -- Zacharias J. Beckman - Dolphin Technologies Inc. - zac@dolphin.com - NeXTMAIL! To be "matter of fact" about the world is to blunder into fantasy.... and dull fantasy at that, as the real world is strange and wonderful. --- R. A. Heinlen Those opinions I express herein are my own, I'm fairly sure. --- Z. J. Beckman
From: karthy@dannug.dk (Karsten Thygesen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Where to find Cnews for NeXT Date: 18 Jul 1993 09:52:45 GMT Organization: Dannug - Danish NeXT Users Group Distribution: world Message-ID: <KARTHY.93Jul18115246@dannug.dannug.dk> References: <glenCA112B.4I6@netcom.com> <21tc2d$mr2@moonshot.west.oic.com> In-reply-to: dillon@moonshot.west.oic.com's message of 12 Jul 1993 21:01:17 -0700 Matthew> Matthew> On 12 Jul 1993 21:01:17 -0700, dillon@moonshot.west.oic.com (Matthew Dillon) said: Matthew> I dunno, but you might want to consider INN instead. I was able to Matthew> compile and install it with minimal work. You have to know your way around Matthew> news, of course. My system is based around NNTP so INN suits it particularly Matthew> well. I can't comment on its suitability in a uucp-based news system but I Matthew> can say that it is extremely flexible when it comes to external feeds. Once Matthew> I began to understand how it worked customizing it was trivial. INN Matthew> is a complete self contained system, you just feed it and it maintains the Matthew> news tree, etc etc etc. At the Danish NeXT User group we use INN in cooperation with both UUCP and NNTP/NNRP and it works great with both systems. I can only recommend it... Karsten.
From: allan@heart Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: GIF: How to read? Message-ID: <allan.93Jul18134059@heart> Date: 18 Jul 93 04:40:59 GMT References: <1993Jul8.061904.27781@csus.edu> <4O8EBYAU@gwdu03.gwdg.de> Sender: news@tutkie.tut.ac.jp (Usenet News System) Distribution: fj Organization: Dept. of Know. Info. Eng., Toyohashi Univ. of Tech., JAPAN Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 I would like to read a file "uudecoded" (fly.gif), but I don't how to do it. Does anybody know how to do that in Next? Thank you, Allan Kardec Duailibe allan@heart.tutkie.tut.ac.jp
From: rjesse@oracle.uucp (Robert Jesse) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: program to turn a next laser printer off Message-ID: <1993Jul18.161433.27128@oracle.us.oracle.com> Date: 18 Jul 93 16:14:33 GMT Sender: usenet@oracle.us.oracle.com (Oracle News Poster) Organization: Oracle Corporation, Redwood Shores, CA at Oracle Corporation. The opinions expressed are those of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle. noticing the articles Re: commands to turn a next laser printer on and off: what i wanted was to not have the printer on all the time, but also to not have to think about turning it off. here's a little program (i start it up from /etc/rc.local) that turns the printer off after N minutes (given on the command line) of non-use. feel free to take/use/modify; no warranties expressed or implied; i'd appreciate hearing about bug fixes and improvements. - bob ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- # /* * nppowerd.c rjesse 19 oct 92 * * This daemon turns off a NeXT 400 dpi printer (/dev/np0) * that has been idle for more than "interval" minutes. * * Usage: nppowerd [interval minutes] */ #define INTERVAL (60*60) /* 60 minute default */ #include <stdio.h> #include <bsd/sys/types.h> #include <mach/boolean.h> #include <bsd/sys/ioctl.h> #include <bsd/sys/file.h> #include <bsd/sys/stat.h> #include <bsd/dev/npio.h> char printer[] = "/dev/np0"; time_t pmtime() { struct stat pstat; if (stat(printer, &pstat) < 0) { fputs("nppowerd: ", stderr); perror(printer); exit(1); } return pstat.st_mtime; } turnpoff() { struct npop op; register pfd; extern errno; errno = 0; if ((pfd=open(printer, O_WRONLY, 0)) < 0) return errno; op.np_op = NPSETPOWER; op.np_power = 0; ioctl(pfd, NPIOCPOP, &op); close(pfd); return errno; } main(ac, av) int ac; char **av; { time_t offtime, mtime, idle; register interval = INTERVAL; if (ac > 2) { fputs("Usage: nppowerd [minutes]\n", stderr); return 1; } switch (fork()) { default: return 0; case -1: return 1; case 0: ; /* child */ } if (ac > 1) interval = atoi(av[1]) * 60; if (interval<60 || interval>(24*60*60) ) interval = INTERVAL; /* * it seems (see NP(4)) to be impossible to test whether the * printer is on or off without first turning it on - opening * the device, even without O_WRONLY, turns it on. so we assume * that upon nppowerd invocation (probably from /etc/rc) that * the printer is on (it gets turned on during the boot sequence). */ offtime = 0; mtime = pmtime(); while (1) { if (mtime != offtime) { /* there has been some printer activity */ while ((idle = time() - mtime) < interval) { sleep(interval-idle+1); mtime = pmtime(); } if (turnpoff() == 0) offtime = mtime = pmtime(); } sleep(interval); mtime = pmtime(); } /*NOTREACHED*/ }
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bruce@TotSysSoft.com (Bruce Gingery) Subject: Re: nntp (wasWhere to find Cnews for NeXT) Message-ID: <1993Jul18.143951.3696@ToTSySSoft.com> Sender: news@ToTSySSoft.com Organization: Total System Software References: <KARTHY.93Jul18115246@dannug.dannug.dk> Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1993 14:39:51 GMT We found the problem with compiling NNTP server version 1.5.11 (10 February 1991) was merely lack of a -bsd switch furnished in CFLAGS. Now have it up with NewsGrazer and WHAT AN IMPROVEMENT!!!! at least over the SLIP link. Bruce Gingery bruce@TotSysSoft.com Total System Software -- the makers of DFax for NEXTSTEP
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: ntomczak@vega.math.ualberta.ca (N Tomczak-Jaegermann) Subject: Re: program to turn a next laser printer off Message-ID: <ntomczak.742961918@vega> Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada References: <1993Jul18.161433.27128@oracle.us.oracle.com> Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1993 02:18:38 GMT rjesse@oracle.uucp (Robert Jesse) writes: >noticing the articles Re: commands to turn a next laser printer on and off: >what i wanted was to not have the printer on all the time, but also to not >have to think about turning it off. here's a little program (i start it >up from /etc/rc.local) that turns the printer off after N minutes (given >on the command line) of non-use. feel free to take/use/modify; no warranties >expressed or implied; i'd appreciate hearing about bug fixes and improvements. >- bob Program deleted. This was posted a long time ago: --mj ----------------------------------------------------------------- #! /bin/csh -f # #From: dnanian@uw.com (Dave Nanian) # /private/adm/np0-off # # This script is run every 15 minutes by cron. It turns off # the np0 printer if it has been left on. # # # If there's no np0-off.time file, we don't look for it, and assume the # printer is on. Note that this will only happen the first time this script # turns the printer off. # if (-e /private/adm/np0-off.time) then set ison=(`find /usr/spool/NeXT/Local_Printer/lock -newer /usr/adm/np0-\ off.time -print`) else set ison='faked on, no np0-off file.' endif # # We don't want to try to turn the printer off if there are spool control # files, so we check for them explicitly. # set spooling=(`find /usr/spool/NeXT/Local_Printer -name 'cf*' -print`) if ($#ison && !($#spooling)) then /usr/etc/nppower off touch /usr/adm/np0-off.time endif #Note that at boot time, I also do the following in /etc/rc.local: #(echo -n ' initializing np0-off.time') >/dev/console #/bin/rm -f /usr/adm/np0-off.time
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: brian@wucs1.wustl.edu (Brian) Subject: Edit.app Man page problem Message-ID: <1993Jul19.004253.5181@wuecl.wustl.edu> Sender: usenet@wuecl.wustl.edu (News Administrator) Organization: Washington University, School of Engineering, St. Louis MO Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1993 00:42:53 GMT Is there a way I can make Edit.app recognize alternate man page paths? I have some man pages in the directory /pkg/local/man/man1 and I want Edit.app to look for them there. I was able to run Edit from a shell session where I had the MANPATH env variable set, but my AutoLaunched Edit won't find the path. Any help will be GREATLY appreciated. brian brian@wucs1.wustl.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.software From: dav@well.sf.ca.us (Paul Davilon) Subject: NS Serial Port Drivers Message-ID: <CAE5ys.HFu@well.sf.ca.us> Keywords: Is there anybody home? Sender: news@well.sf.ca.us Organization: The Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link, Sausalito, CA Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1993 03:06:28 GMT Looking up from my Windows desktop and gazing over at my personal edition of the "$10,000 paperweight" as someome so succiently put it I look at the calendar and am struck with the thought: hey, there are only a very few days left in mid-July, gosh I guess that means NeXT will be coming out with the new serial port drivers ANY MINUTE NOW! Looking at some of the glossy, shiny and happy junk mail that NeXT keeps sending me, to let me know its doing JUST FINE!(tm), I find myself lulled into a happy, idiotic stupor and am nearly certain that NeXT really can do things and deliver what it promises without a fire lit under its ass. Although, I must surely admit, I just haven't seen it happen yet I guess, since as all the mail I've received has been mixed in content, but very straightforward in pointing out that this "new" OS I'm trying to use, was WRITTEN ON the machine I'm trying to use it with (a Dell DGX), and so NeXT has had roughly 2+ years to write a f--king serial port driver for this piece of junk. "Woops, heh heh, who would have thought someone would want to use a modem or a printer? Gosh Steve, back to the drawing board, and lets rip out the disk drives while we're at it" * ANY DECENT Modem use ....... WHEN, where are the drivers? PS: To the "helpful" people who suggest running the serial port at 9600 until the "new drivers that work" come out somewhere over the rainbow. Nice thought, except, it doesn't work either. ANY use of the serial ports at ANY speed crashes the machine. (Ok, so being honest I DIDN'T try 300 or 1200 baud ;-)
From: rjesse@oracle.com (Robert Jesse) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: program to turn a next laser printer off Message-ID: <1993Jul19.035427.15660@oracle.us.oracle.com> Date: 19 Jul 93 03:54:27 GMT Sender: usenet@oracle.us.oracle.com (Oracle News Poster) Organization: Oracle Corporation, Belmont, CA at Oracle Corporation. The opinions expressed are those of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle. ntomczak@vega.math.ualberta.ca (N Tomczak-Jaegermann) writes: >rjesse@oracle.uucp (Robert Jesse) writes: > >>noticing the articles Re: commands to turn a next laser printer on and off: > >>what i wanted was to not have the printer on all the time, but also to not >>have to think about turning it off. here's a little program (i start it >>up from /etc/rc.local) that turns the printer off after N minutes (given >>on the command line) of non-use. feel free to take/use/modify; no warranties >>expressed or implied; i'd appreciate hearing about bug fixes and improvements. >>- bob > >Program deleted. This was posted a long time ago: > --mj [script deleted.] i believe these two schemes have different effects. the script you posted checks every 15 minutes, and if the printer is on and idle (nothing queued), turns it off (even if the most recent use was only a minute ago.) the .c program's effect is not tied to fixed clock intervals - it turns the printer off N minutes after its most recent use, whenever that may be. perhaps the difference seems small. i would guess that the latter strategy results in fewer on/off cycles and maybe longer printer life. - bob
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: rick@TotSysSoft.com (Richard Jacoby) Subject: Re: nntp (wasWhere to find Cnews for NeXT) Message-ID: <1993Jul18.235658.5056@ToTSySSoft.com> Sender: news@ToTSySSoft.com Organization: Total System Software References: <1993Jul18.143951.3696@ToTSySSoft.com> Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1993 23:56:58 GMT In article <1993Jul18.143951.3696@ToTSySSoft.com> bruce@TotSysSoft.com (Bruce Gingery) writes: > We found the problem with compiling NNTP server version > 1.5.11 (10 February 1991) was merely lack of a -bsd switch > furnished in CFLAGS. > > Now have it up with NewsGrazer and WHAT AN IMPROVEMENT!!!! > at least over the SLIP link. > > Bruce Gingery bruce@TotSysSoft.com > Total System Software -- the makers of DFax for NEXTSTEP PLus the addition of a #define sun in the config.h file.... Rick
From: David Pascua <dp3m+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: NS Fonts Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1993 10:24:33 -0400 Organization: Masters student, Information Networking Institute, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Distribution: inet Message-ID: <4gGeuVO00WBK82LmVr@andrew.cmu.edu> Hi, I need assistance in getting more fonts into our NeXTs. We have some Macs in our networks and someone asked me if we can port the TrueType fonts from our Macs into the NeXTs. If anyone has done anything like this, please let me know. Otherwise, are there any other sources (ftp, 3rd party, etc.) of fonts for NS? thanx, -dave
From: Stelios_Makrinos@macbeth.bellcore.com (Stelios Makrinos) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Problem installing NEXTSTEP 3.1 Message-ID: <1993Jul19.143109.28110@walter.bellcore.com> Date: 19 Jul 93 14:31:09 GMT Sender: news@walter.bellcore.com Organization: Bell Communications Research Hi, Here at work, we just purchased a copy of NEXTSTEP 3.1 Evaluation Kit, and we are trying to install it on a clone tower 486/33. The installation started smoothly enough, but after the mini-system was loaded and the system was rebooting to complete the installation, I get mouse and keyboard errors and when the screen comes up, to let me choose my system, the keyboard and mouse do not work. They keyboard is a KB101 (PS/2 style keyboard). And the mouse is a Microsoft Mouse. Some of the errors I got were as follows: Unexpected ack from keyboard. Mouse init failure Serial mouse not attached. I checked the PCs configuration, and the serial ports as set to the addressed specified in the installation booklet. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Stelios Makrinos Bell Communications Research
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Intel woes (was: Tunes from the CDROM drive) Message-ID: <1993Jul17.100637.14089@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <CRESPO.93Jul14193208@hpvclic.vcd.hp.com> Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1993 10:06:37 GMT In article <CRESPO.93Jul14193208@hpvclic.vcd.hp.com> crespo@vcd.hp.com (Ivan Crespo) writes: > > Well, CDPlayer.app is certainly the worst demo program I have ever > seen... > > I fought with it for a while back when I first got NSFIP running, and > with some help I was able to at least get it to find the CD-ROM. But > it can't get it to play anything. > > After lunching it by hand it asks for a CD, I put one in and hit the > play button it just lights up for a little while and then it just > stops. On top of this, when CDPlayer is up things move veryyyyyyyy > slowwwwwwly. > > So I gave given up for now, maybe one of these days I will get some > more time to mess with it, but in the mean time; It's getting > a little embarrasing having my fancy NS machine booted with MS-DOS > whenever I want to listen to music :-) > For al those nice HP guys who now, after all, learn about NEXTSTEP: CDPlayer.app is a tiny little app from the dark (black) times when NS still used to be spelled NeXTstep ;-) This innocent little app was just intended to show how easy it was to exploit the features of black hardware. I myself am VERY astonished tho hear it also runs (or creaps) on Intel stuff! I am prepared to see this as one of the wonders of NS portability. Definitely, I'm not prepared to see any "malfunction" of CDPlayer.app on Intel as a flaw in the NEXTSTEP philosophy. Without intending to evoke any insults over "Black Hardware" chauvinism: NeXT had good reasons to build it's own hardware. And I wouldn't trade my slab for a dozen Intel boxes! -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | NeXTmail welcome !!! # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bruce@TotSysSoft.com (Bruce Gingery) Subject: Re: Edit.app Man page problem Message-ID: <1993Jul19.115216.456@ToTSySSoft.com> Sender: news@ToTSySSoft.com Organization: Total System Software References: <1993Jul19.004253.5181@wuecl.wustl.edu> Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1993 11:52:16 GMT In article <1993Jul19.004253.5181@wuecl.wustl.edu> brian@wucs1.wustl.edu (Brian) writes: -> Is there a way I can make Edit.app recognize alternate -> man page paths? -> -> I have some man pages in the directory -> /pkg/local/man/man1 and I want Edit.app to look for -> them there. I was able to run Edit from a shell -> session where I had the MANPATH env variable set, -> but my AutoLaunched Edit won't find the path. -> -> Any help will be GREATLY appreciated. Brian, My suggestion is create a /NextLibrary/Documentation/[Unix]/ManPages/manl and related catl (that's man - L) and draw a soft link to each of the other local-custom man-pages. Be sure that the LINKS pointing to the -man roff formatted documents end in `.l' (again that's an L). Note that the presence of Unix in the path depends on NEXTSTEP version. Bruce Gingery bruce@TotSysSoft.com Total System Software -- the makers of DFax for NEXTSTEP
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: cdaggett@centipede.arcade.uiowa.edu (Cheyne Daggett) Subject: Wordperfect for NS/I Message-ID: <1993Jul19.182107.4693@news.weeg.uiowa.edu> Sender: news@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (News) Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1993 18:21:07 GMT Has WordPerfect announced a date for the release or has WordPerfect been released yet? I'm a little out of date right know, my last info was NeXTWorld's June/July edition which said that WordPerfect would be released at the Expo. Thanks....
From: rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us (Bob Peirce #305) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Thrid Party CDs hang NS3.1 Message-ID: <1993Jul19.114135.17143@investor.pgh.pa.us> Date: 19 Jul 93 11:41:35 GMT Organization: Cookson, Peirce & Co., Pittsburgh, PA I sent a bug report on this to NeXT and I posted a question to these groups about a week ago. There has been no reply from anyone so I am trying again. I need a way to mount a CD from the console on a freshly booted system. I am running NS3.1 on a 68040 Cube with 24Mb of RAM. My CDRom is on sd2. My boot device is sd0 and my old internal drive is sd1. I don't know if any of this matters. NeXT CDs automount on /dev/sd2a. Third party CDs automount on /dev/rsd2h. I don't know if that matters. Under NS3.0, a command like ls -lR on a mounted CD would run to comple- tion. Under NS3.1, this command works for NeXT CDs but with third party CDs the computer eventually will hang and the plug must be pulled to re- boot. There also will be a large number of files "not found." Tar on a large directory will do the same thing. Using workspace to copy a large number of files, say a big app, will produce errors from not being able to locate files. Since NS3.0 worked, I thought I could boot a 3.0 kernel, log into the console, mount the disk, do my work and re-boot under 3.1. However, I found that under both 3.0 and 3.1 I could not mount a CD with the mount command unless it had previously been mounted from within the workspace However, as you would expect, the 3.1 workspace crashes under the 3.0 kernel. Having gone to the trouble of loading 3.1, I don't want to go back to 3.0 just to read CDs. Does anybody have a command that will mount a CD from the console on a freshly booted system? -- Bob Peirce, Pittsburgh, PA rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us 412-471-5320 venetia@investor.pgh.pa.us [NeXT Mail] !uunet.uu.net!pitt!investor!rbp [UUCP]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: zalta@mally.Stanford.EDU (Ed Zalta) Subject: Mail.app gets confused - anyone notice this? Message-ID: <1993Jul19.192223.27260@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: DSO, Stanford University Date: Mon, 19 Jul 93 19:22:23 GMT When I am back at the console and unhide or open up Mail.app after having examined my Active.mbox from a remote terminal by using the command: mail -f ~/Mailboxes/Active.mbox/mbox, Mail.app gets confused about where messages end. When I click on the next message, the concluding line or two from the previous message appears on the first two lines. And so on throughout the rest of the messages. Does the use of the above command insert some foreign charactersinto the mbox, causing Mail.app to be confused? Ed
From: Roland Telfeyan <roland@gomidas.mi.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Adobe Illustrator on Black NeXTSTEP Date: 19 Jul 1993 20:06:41 GMT Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept. Distribution: world Message-ID: <22eush$i26@zip.eecs.umich.edu> Is there a version of Adobe Illustrator later than 3.0.1 in existence? Roland
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) Subject: Re: Wordperfect for NS/I Message-ID: <1993Jul19.195245.28489@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: DSO, Stanford University References: <1993Jul19.182107.4693@news.weeg.uiowa.edu> Date: Mon, 19 Jul 93 19:52:45 GMT Cheyne Daggett writes > Has WordPerfect announced a date for the release or has WordPerfect > been released yet? I'm a little out of date right know, my last > info was NeXTWorld's June/July edition which said that WordPerfect > would be released at the Expo. Thanks.... WP announced they were shipping a fat version of WordPerfect several weeks ago. -- - Stefano Pagiola Food Research Institute, Stanford University spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged) spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
From: Roland Telfeyan <roland@gomidas.mi.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: AVAILABLE: Documentation for Music Publishing App Date: 19 Jul 1993 20:13:40 GMT Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept. Distribution: world Message-ID: <22ev9k$ibb@zip.eecs.umich.edu> References: <1993Jul13.133725.14133@infodev.cam.ac.uk> In article <1993Jul13.133725.14133@infodev.cam.ac.uk> wfc@cl.cam.ac.uk (William Clocksin) writes: > Demonstration versions of Calliope will be available soon for NeXT hardware > running 2.1 or 3.0. BUT WHEN? The documentation looks truly wonderful!
From: Roland Telfeyan <roland@gomidas.mi.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: AVAILABLE: Documentation for Music Publishing App Date: 19 Jul 1993 20:14:00 GMT Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept. Distribution: world Message-ID: <22eva8$ibk@zip.eecs.umich.edu> References: <1993Jul13.133725.14133@infodev.cam.ac.uk> In article <1993Jul13.133725.14133@infodev.cam.ac.uk> wfc@cl.cam.ac.uk (William Clocksin) writes: > Demonstration versions of Calliope will be available soon for NeXT hardware > running 2.1 or 3.0. BUT WHEN? The documentation looks truly wonderful!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: fugue!william (William Wei) Subject: testing software... Message-ID: <1993Jul19.200735.2751@imagine.com> Sender: william@imagine.com Organization: Imagine Multimedia, Inc., Ann Arbor, MI, USA Distribution: usa Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1993 20:07:35 GMT Does anyone know any testing software that allow me to do progression tests as batch jobs? It has to handle NEXTSTEP apps' GUI EVENT. I'm looking for all kinds of testing solutions for NEXTSTEP apps. Thanks William -- +-----------------------------------------------------------------+ |William Wei Imagine Multimedia | | | |Ann Arbor, Michigan william@imagine.com |
From: yygold@yadin.phyast.pitt.edu (Yadin Y. Goldschmidt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Broken Applications? Message-ID: <16809@blue.cis.pitt.edu> Date: 19 Jul 93 20:10:29 GMT Sender: news+@pitt.edu Other people reported the same problems to me. I found a solution to the Weather problem. Go to the directory where Weather.app resides and open it as a folder. Go to the sub-directory 'other' and using the commander in the tools cancell the executable status of the file GetMap in that directory. Edit this file and change set p= images to set p= images/current.color save the file and change attributes back to executable. Wheather will be able to retrieve maps normally. I did not yet find a cure to the Gopher problem which is apparently related to NS 3.1. Any suggestion is welcome. Yadin. yygold@yadin.phyast.pitt.edu
From: h0l847a@tamsun.tamu.edu (Hoseong La) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Anyone heard of ScorePlayer.app? Date: 19 Jul 1993 16:41:13 -0500 Organization: tamu Distribution: world Message-ID: <22f4dp$m46@tamsun.tamu.edu> Hi, netters. I got some *.score's from sonata, then I do not know what to do with them. It says I can play with ScorePlayer, but I have not been able to locate any of ScorePlayer or ScorePlayer.app. Does anybody know what I should do? Thanks in advance. hs
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) Subject: Re: net.opinion on dock extenders Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1993 03:59:20 GMT Message-ID: <CA4z2w.38z@news.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <21sj4m$rlv@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <mdixon.742616016@thelonius> Sender: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) Originator: jbn35564@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana I totally agree with Mike Dixon here. I think that TS totally replaces my need for a dock extender as well as other applets like that. I think it's the best thing since Stuart, since it replaces so many apps, works so well and is so easily extendable. Hopefully with more extensions to this all you budding (and current) NS developer whizzes can work on apps for which people have been known to buy machines.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: windsor@symcom.math.uiuc.edu (Eric W. Blankenburg) Subject: Connecting NeXT and DOS PC -- HELP! Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1993 02:57:59 GMT Message-ID: <CAAG8n.4rH@news.cso.uiuc.edu> Distribution: usa Sender: usenet@news.cso.uiuc.edu (Net Noise owner) Organization: Math Dept., University of Illinois at Urbana/Champaign Does anyone have a clue on what it takes to ethernet a single DOS PC to NeXT Cube so I can use the NeXT as a file server for the PC as well as use its printer? Thanks in advance. Any responses (please somebody :-) ) can be sent to windsor@symcom.math.uiuc.edu Don't waste the bandwidth of the this news group to answer. Thanks in advance.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jheiser@adobe.com (James Heiser) Subject: Re: Adobe Illustrator on Black NeXTSTEP Message-ID: <1993Jul19.231800.3628@adobe.com> Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS) Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated References: <22eush$i26@zip.eecs.umich.edu> Distribution: na Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1993 23:18:00 GMT In article <22eush$i26@zip.eecs.umich.edu> Roland Telfeyan <roland@gomidas.mi.org> writes: > Is there a version of Adobe Illustrator later than 3.0.1 in existence? > > Roland 3.0.1 is the current shipping version. James Heiser Adobe Systems Incorporated
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dave@guinness.huma.yorku.ca (David Aspinall) Subject: Re: Wordperfect for NS/I (BUGS anyone ?) Message-ID: <CAFv9s.2t3@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca> Sender: news@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca (USENET News System) Organization: York University, Humanities Department References: <1993Jul19.195245.28489@leland.Stanford.EDU> Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1993 01:10:39 GMT We have a copy arriving on Friday of this week. Actually someone is driving down to Detroit (or Buffalo) and picking it up. Anyway, if anyone is interested I hope to have it running on a Network of 13 m68k machines and our first production Intel box Saturday afternoon. If anyone has a personal BUG they would like checked out let me know and I will test the app and post the results. If not I will keep my opinions to myself. David spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) writes: : Cheyne Daggett writes : > Has WordPerfect announced a date for the release or has WordPerfect : > been released yet? I'm a little out of date right know, my last : > info was NeXTWorld's June/July edition which said that WordPerfect : > would be released at the Expo. Thanks.... : : WP announced they were shipping a fat version of WordPerfect several : weeks ago. : : -- : - : Stefano Pagiola : Food Research Institute, Stanford University : spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged) : spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged) -- David Aspinall ---------- Former-Former-NeXT Campus Consultant E-mail : cs911409@ariel.yorku.ca | I'd rather be NeXTMail: dave@ccs.yorku.ca | rich than stupid V-mail : (416) 663-4997 | -- Jack Handey
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Tunes from the CDROM drive (CDPlayer.app FAQ) Date: 20 Jul 1993 03:31:14 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <22fou2$cfl@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <2210c0$1ao@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Joseph W Reiss) writes: [responding to an earlier article by Garance] > Well, this was ALMOST right, except... > > My NeXT CD drive is most definitely NOT sd1, but I can still run > CDPlayer.app and then insert the CD. It just tells me to insert the > CD in external drive 3. I haven't been able to get it to autorun when > I insert an audio CD yet, but I'm working on it. Hmm. I'd think all you have to do for auto-launch to work is turn on the public window server option (though I don't recommend doing that). > BTW, I ran strings on CDPlayer.app/CDPlayer. I've noticed that > CDPlayer sets a Volume entry in the defaults database. Well right > below (above?) the string Volume in the strings listing I got was the > string CDDrive (or something like this). Now I'm not sure, but it > seems that most apps keep their default strings pretty close together. > Is this a default, and if so does it do anything useful? As (probably) noted in some other articles, this default does seem to work. Or at least it works fine for me, though a few other people have *not* been able to get it to work. I brought up a unix window and typed: dwrite CDPlayer CDDrive /dev/rsd2h Now I just double-click on CDPlayer.app and sure enough it asks me to insert the music CD in external drive #2 (which is my CD-ROM drive). This works great for me, but I don't know why it doesn't work for some other people. Note, of course, that each user on the machine would have to set the above default value, as default-database values are saved on a per-user basis. Thanks to Joseph for thinking to run strings on the CDPlayer binary. That's the type of thing I *usually* think to do, but it didn't occur to me for this particular application. Oh well. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: isbell@cats.ucsc.edu (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Tunes from the CDROM drive (CDPlayer.app FAQ) Date: 20 Jul 1993 05:38:44 GMT Organization: Cubic Solutions - NeXT software development and consulting Distribution: world Message-ID: <22g0d4INNfae@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> References: <2210c0$1ao@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <22fou2$cfl@usenet.rpi.edu> In article <22fou2$cfl@usenet.rpi.edu> gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) writes: >Thanks to Joseph for thinking to run strings on the CDPlayer binary. That's >the type of thing I *usually* think to do, but it didn't occur to me for >this particular application. Oh well. I ran gdb on CDPlayer using EPS' magic defaults addresses under 3.1 and found no defaults variable called "CDDrive". I saw "Volume" which is adjacent to "CDDrive" in the CDPlayer executable and "Volume" is reported as a defaults variable by gdb. Because I've had no luck with the fix on my Cube with a NeXT CD-ROM drive, I assumed that the "CDDrive" dwrite didn't work, but now it seems that it's working for a lot of folks. I'm sure of my CD-ROM device (/dev/rsd2a) and I've tried becoming a Public Window Server (or not), neither of which works. My error is "can't open CD-ROM drive", not "can't find CD-ROM drive", so maybe something else is wrong. -- Art Isbell Cubic Solutions NeXT Registered Developer NEXTSTEP software development and consulting NeXTmail: isbell@cats.UCSC.EDU Voice: (408)335-1154 USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: (408)335-2515
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: temple@bragg.biology.yale.edu ("Temple Burling") Subject: Any plotting packages for the NeXT? Message-ID: <1993Jul20.140752.5361@cs.yale.edu> Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News) Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1993 14:07:52 GMT Does anyone know whether a decent scientific plotting package exists for the next, comercial or otherwise. I've used NXYplot which is ok for quick and dirty plots, I find SciPlot somewhat cumbersome. Lotus Improv is a pig and most of the stuff it does I don't want. I'm looking for something on the line of KaleidaGraph for the Mac, heck even something like cricket graph would be ok. Thanks for your help. P.S. are there any login windows out there with baseball players on them? I hate the one I have now.
From: jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Joseph W Reiss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Randomizing login images Date: 20 Jul 1993 14:27:29 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <22gvch$b3u@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Hi, all. I've been trying to do what the subject line says, randomize my login window images. I wrote a nice little script file that SHOULD do the trick. The problem is, I can't figure out what the best, most proper place to run this script from is. Does anyone out there have any suggestions, or any better ways to randomize the logins? After just finishing the conversion of the Bloom County images, I'd really like to be able to use more than just Opus! Joe -- __________ | NeXTMail accepted, but not preferred | |___) | """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" \_/OE | \EISS | No response on any Starfleet channel, sir. However, `---- | there is a related thread ongoing in rec.arts.startrek.
From: dpp@athena.com (David Pollak) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: The Second Annual Mesa Party Date: 20 Jul 1993 14:14:21 GMT Organization: Athena Design, Inc. Message-ID: <22gujt$1k3@hermes.athena.com> Hello, On August 4, 1992, Athena Design released Mesa. In the year since its introduction, Athena Design has upgraded Mesa 5 times adding new features such as 3D graphs, a BASIC-like scripting language, Palletized spreadsheet and graph objects, SQL database access and manipulation, and more. Athena Design has shown its commitment to NEXTSTEP by shipping Mesa as the first available NS/Intel application. Mesa is now the best-selling spreadsheet for NEXTSTEP and it's time to kick back, and throw a party! On Wednesday, August 4, 1993, at 7pm, the Second Annual We Really Did It: Mesa Release Party will commence. It will be at the Athena Design offices at 17 Saint Mary's Court, Boston. Please come. Please bring friends. We will have food, beverages, and fun. Please celebrate with us. Please RSVP to party@athena.com or call 617.734.6372 (MESA). Thanks and we'll see you there! David Directions: T (Subway for non-Bostonians): Take the MBTA Green "C" line to the Saint Mary's Street stop. This is the first above-ground stop on the "C" line. Get off the T and walk across Beacon street. The first street on your right is Saint Mary's Street. Walk down Saint Mary's street until you get to the first alley on your left. Walk down the alley. 17 Saint Mary's Court is the second red door on the right. Car: Saint Mary's Street is on the Boston-Brookline border on the 1000 block of Beacon Street. Drive outbound from Kenmore Square. Cross over the Mass Pike. Find parking after the first set of lights after you cross the Mass Pike. Saint Mary's Street is the first right after this set of lights. See above directions.
From: t146678@lehtori.cc.tut.fi (Tuominen Juha) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: PCB-CAD for NeXTstep Date: 20 Jul 1993 17:18:19 +0300 Organization: Tampere University of Technology, Computing Centre Distribution: world Message-ID: <22gurb$k8h@cc.tut.fi> Is there a pcb-cad for NeXTstep available? I don't need a huge Mentor style cad, just a plain pcb-cad so that I can design a board (by hand) and print it out. -- Juha Tuominen NeXTMail talks and disk drive walks Opiskelijankatu 30 B 42 Tampere University of Technology 33720 TAMPERE - FINLAND Mail: t146678@cc.tut.fi Phone: +358-31-182 851
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) Subject: Current NEXTSTEP EMACS front-end? Message-ID: <1993Jul20.162205.6813@cs.yale.edu> Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News) Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1993 16:22:05 GMT I grabbed something called "Emacs" off an archive site (readme shown below), but it dies when I try to compile it on a 3.0 system. 1. What's the fix for the bugs NeXT created when they moved the header files around in /usr/include? 2. If there an updated version of "Emacs"? > This directory contains the NeXTstep front-end to GNU Emacs. This > is the README for version 2.1. > > _.John G. Myers > jgm@fed.expres.cs.cmu.edu > > Emacs 2.1 Changes were written by J. Gregory (jgg@proforma.com) using > a Nextcube, 68040, running release 2.1 of the NeXTstep system. -- Nathan Janette Systems Manager, Axel T. Brunger Lab Internet: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu Voice: 203 432 5065 Fax: 203 432 3923
From: kbw@helios.ath.epa.gov (Kevin Weinrich) Newsgroups: comp.mail.multi-media,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.sun.apps Subject: Re: NeXTmail and Sun's mail attachments Date: 20 Jul 1993 16:25:44 GMT Organization: Computer Sciences Corp. Distribution: world Message-ID: <22h6a8$fdu@hermes.ath.epa.gov> References: <1993Jul14.175124.4879@mtu.edu> <1993Jul15.154528.5121@mail.mmmg.com> In article <1993Jul15.154528.5121@mail.mmmg.com>, co017418@mmc.mmmg.com (Paul T. Root) writes: |> |> They aren't at all compatible. But unpacking it would let you see the |> stuff. |> |> NeXT's generally have pictures in tiff, so you need a tiff viewer, |> probably xv will do it. The audio files usually are playable on either |> system. Text for the NeXT is the biggest problem, you'll need a Rich |> Text viewer/editor. I don't know where to get that. If the NeXT mail were in MIME format, he could get the "metamail" package, which I just installed and have begun playing with on my Sun. It lets me, with minimal pain, view Rich Text, play audio, and see images from Sun's mailtool. -- Kevin Weinrich Computer Sciences Corp. kbw@helios.ath.epa.gov
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bhill@physics.ucla.edu (Brian Hill) Subject: Re: Any plotting packages for the NeXT? In-Reply-To: temple@bragg.biology.yale.edu's message of Tue, 20 Jul 1993 14:07:52 GMT Message-ID: <BHILL.93Jul20105236@spike.physics.ucla.edu> Sender: usenet@physics.ucla.edu Organization: Dept. of Physics, UCLA References: <1993Jul20.140752.5361@cs.yale.edu> Date: 20 Jul 93 10:52:36 In article <1993Jul20.140752.5361@cs.yale.edu> temple@bragg.biology.yale.edu ("Temple Burling") writes: Does anyone know whether a decent scientific plotting package exists for the next, comercial or otherwise. I've used NXYplot which is ok for quick and dirty plots, I find SciPlot somewhat cumbersome. Lotus Improv is a pig and most of the stuff it does I don't want. I'm looking for something on the line of KaleidaGraph for the Mac, heck even something like cricket graph would be ok. Perhaps Gnuplot.app fits the bill. v 1.2 is on cs.orst.edu in /pub/next/binaries/plotting. --Brian Hill
From: sowa@amdew.llnl.gov (Erik C. Sowa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Tunes from the CDROM drive (CDPlayer.app FAQ) Date: 20 Jul 1993 18:29:06 GMT Organization: LLNL Chemistry and Materials Science Distribution: world Message-ID: <SOWA.93Jul20112906@amdew.llnl.gov> References: <2210c0$1ao@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <22fou2$cfl@usenet.rpi.edu> <22g0d4INNfae@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> In-reply-to: isbell@cats.ucsc.edu's message of 20 Jul 1993 05:38:44 GMT >>>>> "Art" == Art Isbell <isbell@cats.ucsc.edu> writes: Art> Because I've had no luck with the fix on my Cube with a NeXT CD-ROM drive, I Art> assumed that the "CDDrive" dwrite didn't work, but now it seems that it's Art> working for a lot of folks. Yet another data point. 25 MHz mono station running 3.1 standalone with next cd drive at SCSI 2. Internal hard disk at SCSI 1, external at 0. Package installed as root. The dwrite doesn't work--- "can't open CD-ROM drive". But sticking an audio disk in the drive autolaunches CDPlayer just fine, even *without* Public Window Server on. If you look in /usr/filesystems/cdaudio.fs, you may find the text file cdaudio.device. This is apparently written when the autolaunch of CDPlayer works successfully. The contents of this on my system are: "/dev/rsd2h". This is the string I tried in the dwrite with no success. -- erik sowa (sowa@amdew.llnl.gov)
From: work@dannug.dk (Michael Hallin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Anyone heard of ScorePlayer.app? Date: 20 Jul 1993 15:56:36 GMT Organization: Danish NeXT User Group Distribution: world Message-ID: <22h4jk$ab@localhost.dk> References: <22f4dp$m46@tamsun.tamu.edu> In article <22f4dp$m46@tamsun.tamu.edu> h0l847a@tamsun.tamu.edu (Hoseong La) writes: >>>Hi, netters. >>>I got some *.score's from sonata, then I do not know what to do with them. >>>It says I can play with ScorePlayer, but I have not been able to locate >>>any of ScorePlayer or ScorePlayer.app. >>>Does anybody know what I should do? stuff deleted Hi scores are playable with ScorePlayer, which was part of the NextDeveloper/Demos in the 2.x release of NeXTSTEP (and presumably before that as well). I can mail it to you if you want it. Michael --- _____________________________________________ Michael Hallin Copenhagen, Denmark NeXTMail: work@dannug.dk NonNeXTMail: mh.xeroxvang@rxdk.xerox.com Voice: Int + 45 43 53 34 33 Fax: Int + 45 43 53 34 33 _____________________________________________
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: wolf@beta.lanl.gov (David R. Wolf) Subject: Graphics Workshop - Need installation help Message-ID: <1993Jul20.175826.1510@newshost.lanl.gov> Sender: news@newshost.lanl.gov Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1993 17:58:26 GMT I've been trying to get Graphics Workshop going. The problem I'm having is that when using the thing it comes back and says "unable to link to /LocalLibrary/Converters/jbg.bcvt" (jpg file format is all I've tried). I checked all the permissions and that all the file were in the directory it thinks that they should be in. So, I guess the question is: is this an problem with 3.0, the installation, or Graphics Workshop? Hope someone who's had a similar problem knows the solution! wolf@beta.lanl.gov
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware From: jwdb@dutnak2.tn.tudelft.nl (Jan-Willem de Bruijn) Subject: Re: Problem installing NEXTSTEP 3.1 Message-ID: <jwdb.743191578@dutnak2> Sender: news@dutrun2.tudelft.nl (UseNet News System) Organization: Delft University of Technology References: <1993Jul19.143109.28110@walter.bellcore.com> Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1993 18:06:18 GMT In <1993Jul19.143109.28110@walter.bellcore.com> Stelios_Makrinos@macbeth.bellcore.com (Stelios Makrinos) writes: Sorry to have a kind of me-too posting, but our problem is almost exactly the same. I'll give a hardware specification below this excerpt of the original post. >The installation started smoothly enough, but after the mini-system was >loaded and the system was rebooting to complete the installation, I get >mouse and keyboard errors and when the screen comes up, to let me choose >my system, the keyboard and mouse do not work. >They keyboard is a KB101 (PS/2 style keyboard). And the mouse is a >Microsoft Mouse. >Some of the errors I got were as follows: >Unexpected ack from keyboard. >Mouse init failure >Serial mouse not attached. We have: VESA Localbus CPU board with 16 MB, IDE disk controller 428 MB, Adaptec 1542 B SCSI controller, ATI Ultra Pro VLB graphics card, Logitech serial mouse (COM1: IRQ#4), CD-ROM drive on SCSI id 0. Some combination of ATI card, CPU board and floppy drive controller does not work together. The floppy just gives out gibberish. Configuring the ATI card to its slowest mode relieves this problem. Installing went OK, although the keyboard and mouse messages mentioned above also appeared. Our hardware specialist said that the mouse on IRQ#12 (which is what the system figured out by itself) may not be right. But how to change this? The fact is, only after everything was installed, and the screen appeared where one is asked to choose a language and keyboard, did the mouse fail. Where before, while configuring the devices, it was working OK. The keyboard still functions, but hey! no one can live without a mouse. We blundered on by pressing RETURN a few times and got a realistic looking workspace for the user 'me', but no mouse functionality. It stays frozen in one spot, although it shows disk activity with a spinning disk. As long as you can do without the mouse (sort-of single tasking), like using a Terminal window, you're alright. :-) Anyone with these kind of symptoms, know what to do about them? Thanks in advance, Jan-Willem -- Jan-Willem de Bruijn jwdb@dutnak2.tn.tudelft.nl Lab. of Seismics and Acoustics NeXT-mail: jwdb@delphi.tn.tudelft.nl Dep. of Applied Physics Discipline is never an end in itself, Delft University of Technology only a means to an end.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jpowell@borg.lib.vt.edu (James Powell) Subject: X-windows for Intel Message-ID: <1993Jul20.200209.25090@ecsvax.uncecs.edu> Sender: usenet@ecsvax.uncecs.edu (News Administrator) Organization: UNC Educational Computing Service Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1993 20:02:09 GMT I posted a note a few days back requesting info about X-windows for NSFIP. Most people mentioned Cub'X and Co-Xist with some testimonials stating Cub'X is faster. I have tried to track down demo versions of one or both of these X implementations for _INTEL_SYSTEMS_ and have failed. The cub'X contribution at cs.orst.edu is corrupt and co-Xist is the old Motorola version. So can anyone point me to a demo version of one of these packages on the Internet? By the way, where is a good GIF viewer for NSFIP? Thanks. -- James Powell - Library Automation, University Libraries, VPI&SU jpowell@borg.lib.vt.edu - NeXTMail welcome here Owner of VPIEJ-L, a discussion list for Electronic Journals Archives: http://borg.lib.vt.edu:80/ gopher://borg.lib.vt.edu:70/ file://borg.lib.vt.edu/~ftp
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: cowboy@trans.csuohio.edu (Joe Rosenfeld) Subject: Re: Tunes from the CDROM drive (CDPlayer.app FAQ) Message-ID: <1993Jul20.195102.16803@news.csuohio.edu> Sender: news@news.csuohio.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Cleveland State University References: <1993Jul11.124043.3142@holli.uucp> <21vjha$6ph@usenet.rpi.edu> Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1993 19:51:02 GMT Try changing the mode of CDPlayer.app, as in: chmod 4755 CDPlayer. This will or should do it. -- | Joe Rosenfeld cowboy@trans.csuohio.edu | CSU Law Library j.rosenfeld@csuohio.edu | "If you always do what you always did, you will always get | what you always got!" B.S.
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Talus Imaging's phone # ?? Date: 20 Jul 1993 21:10:04 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Distribution: world Message-ID: <22hmvc$chv@agate.berkeley.edu> I am looking for the phone # of Talus Imaging. Can anyone tell me? I want to get ImageMate but can't get the ordering info. Thanks. -- Izumi Ohzawa [ $@Bg_78^=;(J ] USMail: University of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720 Telephone: (510) 642-6440 Fax: (510) 642-3323 Internet: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (NeXTMail OK)
From: gmdst4+@pitt.edu (Gretchen M Dick) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Any Sharware, PD, Demo CAD programs for Message-ID: <16900@blue.cis.pitt.edu> Date: 20 Jul 93 21:47:13 GMT Sender: news+@pitt.edu Organization: University of Pittsburgh Originator: gmdst4@unixd1.cis.pitt.edu Are there any PD, Shareware, or Demo CAD programs for Black Hardware that I could try out. If so please let me know so I don't have to use my PC. Gretchen -- Gretchen "Think's Mark needs his own account" Dick md3z@andrew.cmu.edu or gmdst4@pitt.edu Standard Disclaimers Apply
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware From: tgall@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Tom Gall) Subject: Re: Problem installing NEXTSTEP 3.1 Sender: news@rchland.ibm.com Message-ID: <1993Jul20.222624.36628@rchland.ibm.com> Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1993 22:26:24 GMT Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM References: <1993Jul19.143109.28110@walter.bellcore.com> <jwdb.743191578@dutnak2> Organization: IBM Rochester In article <jwdb.743191578@dutnak2>, jwdb@dutnak2.tn.tudelft.nl (Jan-Willem de Bruijn) writes: |> In <1993Jul19.143109.28110@walter.bellcore.com> Stelios_Makrinos@macbeth.bellcore.com (Stelios Makrinos) writes: |> [story of woah removed...] |> |> Installing went OK, although the keyboard and mouse messages mentioned |> above also appeared. Our hardware specialist said that the mouse on |> IRQ#12 (which is what the system figured out by itself) may not be right. |> But how to change this? well you'll want to figure out how to change the IRQ on your mouse. IRQ 12 is not right. But you did say you had a logitech set at IRQ 4...which does sound right. |> The fact is, only after everything was installed, and the screen |> appeared where one is asked to choose a language and keyboard, did |> the mouse fail. Where before, while configuring the devices, it was |> working OK. The keyboard still functions, but hey! no one can live |> without a mouse. By the sounds of THIS, you installed the wrong mouse driver. On the initial setup screen, after the very first reboot, (this is the screen where you set your video mode, mouse, Ethernet card, sound etc), the mouse setup DEFAULTS to a PS/2MOUSE. You MUST change this to a serial mouse. If you can navigate the Workspace with the keyboard and fire up the Configure.app from /NextAdmin great, if you can't, you've got to reinstall from the ground up. sorry 8-( (You may have to anyway, simply because, NeXTSTEP doesn't allow the user to control the mouse from the keyboard....HINT HINT NUDGE NUDGE WINK WINK WINK are you folks who work at NeXT listening??) |> We blundered on by pressing RETURN a few times and got a realistic |> looking workspace for the user 'me', but no mouse functionality. It |> stays frozen in one spot, although it shows disk activity with a spinning |> disk. As long as you can do without the mouse (sort-of single tasking), |> like using a Terminal window, you're alright. :-) |> |> Anyone with these kind of symptoms, know what to do about them? |> |> Thanks in advance, |> |> Jan-Willem |> |> |> -- |> Jan-Willem de Bruijn jwdb@dutnak2.tn.tudelft.nl |> Lab. of Seismics and Acoustics NeXT-mail: jwdb@delphi.tn.tudelft.nl |> Dep. of Applied Physics Discipline is never an end in itself, |> Delft University of Technology only a means to an end. Best of Luck! -- tgall@rchvmw2.vnet.ibm.com (work -- NeXTMail NOT ok) _________________________________________________________________________ |o|Tom Gall "Where's the ka-boom? There was supposed |o| |o|Dept 45 N to be an earth shattering ka-boom!" |o| |o|Performance Tools III -- Marvin Martian ____ |o| |o|006-2 / B209 /\___\ |o| |o|IBM Rochester 3-4558 #include<std.disclaimer.h> \/___/ |o|
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mgrubb@amadeus.axys.krldwa.mccaw.com (Monte Grubb) Subject: vt320 & vt220 emulation needed! Message-ID: <1993Jul20.232158.14775@mccaw.com> Sender: news@mccaw.com Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc. Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1993 23:21:58 GMT I need any information concerning commercial or shareware apps that have vt320 & vt220 terminal emulation. Any help would be appreciated! Respond to monte.grubb@mccaw.com thanx, Monte Grubb (206)827-4500 x1212
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: df@watershed.com (Dirk P. Fromhein) Subject: Re: Current NEXTSTEP EMACS front-end? Message-ID: <CAHrn6.LH@ripple.uunet> Sender: jaeger@ripple.uunet (Dirk P. Fromhein) Organization: Watershed Technologies, Inc. References: <1993Jul20.162205.6813@cs.yale.edu> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1993 01:47:30 GMT There is an Emacs 3.0 NeXTSTEP front end some place out there. cs.orst.edu comes to mind. (I can email you a copy if you wish) Yeah, I would love it if someone would create a real NeXTSTEP front end to emacs 19.16. We actually run X windows just to use emacs 19.16 with multiple Frames. It is one fantastic program. I have been looking at the emacs 19.16 code and since the front end is X based I think it would be a non-trivial port to NS. But it would be well worth the effort. I would pay good money to have such a beast. Oh well ... where have all the hackers gone ... :-) Dirk Fromhein df@watershed.com Watershed technologies, inc. In article <1993Jul20.162205.6813@cs.yale.edu> nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) writes: > I grabbed something called "Emacs" off an archive site (readme shown below), > but it dies when I try to compile it on a 3.0 system. > > 1. What's the fix for the bugs NeXT created when they moved the header > files around in /usr/include? > > 2. If there an updated version of "Emacs"? > > > This directory contains the NeXTstep front-end to GNU Emacs. This > > is the README for version 2.1. > > > > _.John G. Myers > > jgm@fed.expres.cs.cmu.edu > > > > Emacs 2.1 Changes were written by J. Gregory (jgg@proforma.com) using > > a Nextcube, 68040, running release 2.1 of the NeXTstep system. > > -- > Nathan Janette > Systems Manager, Axel T. Brunger Lab > > Internet: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu > Voice: 203 432 5065 > Fax: 203 432 3923
From: cedman@golem.ps.uci.edu (Carl Edman) Subject: Re: Current NEXTSTEP EMACS front-end? Message-ID: <CEDMAN.93Jul20202346@golem.uci.edu> In-reply-to: df@watershed.com's message of Wed, 21 Jul 1993 01:47:30 GMT Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software References: <1993Jul20.162205.6813@cs.yale.edu> <CAHrn6.LH@ripple.uunet> Date: 21 Jul 93 03:23:58 GMT In article <CAHrn6.LH@ripple.uunet> df@watershed.com (Dirk P. Fromhein) writes: Yeah, I would love it if someone would create a real NeXTSTEP front end to emacs 19.16. We actually run X windows just to use emacs 19.16 with multiple Frames. It is one fantastic program. I have been looking at the emacs 19.16 code and since the front end is X based I think it would be a non-trivial port to NS. But it would be well worth the effort. I would pay good money to have such a beast. Not only you. Oh well ... where have all the hackers gone ... :-) They went to Richard M Stallman of the Free Software Foundation and offered to write a complete NeXTstep interface to emacs with all the functionality of the X window interface. They asked for no support from the FSF. They offered to donate the code. All they asked was that the code be included in the official emacs so that they wouldn't need to write new patches every single time there was a new release of Emacs 19 which these days happens every other week and often more frequently than that. Mr Richard M Stallman with all his natural charm that won him so many friends gave them his best wishes for a trip to hell. That cooled off the interest of at least this hacker. Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: shill@ccsi.com (Sean L. Hill) Subject: Driver update disk Message-ID: <1993Jul20.181509.3139@ccsi.com> Sender: shill@ccsi.com Organization: Crystal Computer Systems, Inc. Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1993 18:15:09 GMT So does anybody know about that Driver Update Disk coming in July? Thanks for any information.. -- Sean L. Hill Ergo Science Incorporated shill@ccsi.com Compuserve: 73667,3355
From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Any plotting packages for the NeXT? Message-ID: <69476@mimsy.umd.edu> Date: 21 Jul 93 04:47:53 GMT References: <1993Jul20.140752.5361@cs.yale.edu> Sender: news@mimsy.umd.edu Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742 temple@bragg.biology.yale.edu ("Temple Burling") writes: > Does anyone know whether a decent scientific plotting package exists for > the next, comercial or otherwise. I've used NXYplot which is ok for quick > and dirty plots, I find SciPlot somewhat cumbersome. you might want to try GnuPlot (or gnuplot) available on the archives. its a popular free plotting package with lots of features. the command line version is useful by itself for generating postscript files and it runs on most Unix (and even VMS) platforms. There is a nice NeXT front end to it on sonata.cc.purdue.edu. one good thing is that if you like it, you can share plot files with people on lesser computers. or if you ever have to use one of the things, you would at least know the program features even if you had to type commands instead of push buttons. -- Alex Blakemore alex@cs.umd.edu NeXT mail accepted -------------------------------------------------------------- "Without an engaged and motivated human being at the keyboard, the computer is just another dumb box." William Raspberry
From: balfanz@zorro.informatik.hu-berlin.de (Dirk Balfanz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: xfig-ish program? Date: 21 Jul 1993 05:10:24 GMT Organization: Humboldt University Berlin, Department of Computer Science Distribution: world Message-ID: <22ij40$fab@hahn.informatik.hu-berlin.de> Is there something with the functionality of xfig for NeXT? That is drawing pictures without limitations (well...) and then incorporating them into TeX documents. (Among other things, of course). With NEXTSTEP it should be easy to paste those pictures via PostScript into *any* document! Has anybody seen something like that, preferably free? Thanks in advance. Dirk.
From: meo@pencom.com (Miles O'Neal) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.windows.x Subject: Re: Problems compiling X program on NeXT Message-ID: <1993Jul20.201324.5175@pencom.com> Date: 20 Jul 93 20:13:24 GMT References: <1993Jul14.183216.178@cube.sublink.org> Sender: usenet@pencom.com (Usenet Pseudo User) Organization: Pencom Software In article <1993Jul14.183216.178@cube.sublink.org>, arrigo@cube.sublink.org (Arrigo Benedetti) writes: | I have some troubles compiling xtexcad 1.2 on my NeXT cube running 3.0 | and MouseX X11R5. The sources compiles with a lot of warnings but the | linker says: | | /arrigo/tex/texcad% make -f Makefile.std cad | cc -s -o xtexcad oberfl.o ereignis.o file_sel.o pickedit.o graphics.o | io_trans.o yyscan.o -lXaw -lXmu -lXt -lXext -lX11 -lm -ll | /bin/ld: Undefined symbols: | __XExtensionErrorFunction Try moving -lXext after -lX11 and see what happens.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: CraftMan and NS3.1/FMP Message-ID: <22iltp$k8v@zippy.Telcom.Arizona.EDU> From: d_mc@mccube.tucson.az.us (Don McCollam) Date: 21 Jul 1993 05:58:17 GMT Distribution: world Organization: University of Arizona Anyone experiencing problems with CraftMan(1.1) under NS3.1/FMP (i.e. Motorola)? I'm getting "Open" errors on some stuff I wrote under NS3.0 and some of CraftMan's own Demo's have the same problem. Any advice? Don McCollam citdem@happy.rc.arizona.edu
From: marcus@ursula.ee.pdx.edu (Marcus Daniels) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Current NEXTSTEP EMACS front-end? Message-ID: <22ipth$f4d@ursula.ee.pdx.edu> Date: 20 Jul 93 17:06:25 GMT Article-I.D.: ursula.22ipth$f4d References: <1993Jul20.162205.6813@cs.yale.edu> <CAHrn6.LH@ripple.uunet> <CEDMAN.93Jul20202346@golem.uci.edu> >In article <CAHrn6.LH@ripple.uunet> df@watershed.com (Dirk P. Fromhein) writes: > Yeah, I would love it if someone would create a real NeXTSTEP front > end to emacs 19.16. We actually run X windows just to use emacs > 19.16 with multiple Frames. It is one fantastic program. I have > been looking at the emacs 19.16 code and since the front end is X > based I think it would be a non-trivial port to NS. But it would > be well worth the effort. I would pay good money to have such a > beast. >Not only you. How much? What would you use it for? [munch] >They offered to donate the code. All they asked was >that the code be included in the official emacs so that they wouldn't >need to write new patches every single time there was a new release of >Emacs 19 which these days happens every other week and often more >frequently than that. Mr Richard M Stallman with all his natural >charm that won him so many friends gave them his best wishes for a >trip to hell. >That cooled off the interest of at least this hacker. > Carl Edman To include NEXTSTEP support as part of the normal distribution would set a big precedent. It would mean the FSF was advocating, in a way, a particular proprietary O.S.. The FSF is on a shoestring budget, and it is not suprising RMS wouldn't want to open a whole new can of worms (legal, technical, and practical). It is not a just a matter of dropping in a few files now and then-- FSF, et. al would have to factor in NEXTSTEP with every change they made. Emacs19 is still very Xlib. Also remember that Lucid successfully maintains a parallel version of Emacs19 (which Lucid, Blandy, & RMS are slowly integrating). It is conceivable they same thing could be done in the NEXTSTEP world. RMS has expressed interest in continuing to improve the event handling mechanisms to be more generic; specifically, to use the Xt/Lucid model. People interested in a NS port should be helping with those efforts. To get the equivalent Emacs functionality for NS would be a (big) Unix/C hacking project. To make Emacs really useful in the NS environment (i.e. replace Edit, take on Project Builder functions, etc.) would be a equally big project of all new NS development. I'm interested in hearing how many NS developers would leave Edit for Emacs. At this point my attitude is that Emacs is what makes `other systems' approximate the integration of NEXTSTEP. If anyone has ideas on what advantages Emacs19 would offer in the NEXTSTEP environment, please post! marcus
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bauer@galilei.lbm.mw.tu-muenchen.de (Sebastian Bauer) Subject: Re: Any Sharware, PD, Demo CAD programs for Message-ID: <1993Jul21.103015.1114@news.lrz-muenchen.de> Sender: news@news.lrz-muenchen.de (Mr. News) Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany) References: <16900@blue.cis.pitt.edu> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1993 10:30:15 GMT In article <16900@blue.cis.pitt.edu> gmdst4+@pitt.edu (Gretchen M Dick) writes: > Are there any PD, Shareware, or Demo CAD programs for Black Hardware > that I could try out. If so please let me know so I don't have to > use my PC. > > Gretchen (md3z@andrew.cmu.edu or gmdst4@pitt.edu) I think the program OpenCAD3D is a very good program. You can get a demo at peanuts.pst.informatik.uni-muenchen.de (anonymous ftp), location /pub/next/Demos/OpenCAD3DDEMO.pkg.tar. Most likely, there is also a ftp-site in the US which carries this program. Sebastian -------------------------------------------------------------------- Sebastian Bauer e-mail: <bauer@lbm.mw.tu-muenchen.de> at the Institute B for Mechanics (NeXTmail welcome) Technical University Munich, Germany --------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jesper@harry (Jesper Lundh) Subject: Re: CraftMan and NS3.1/FMP Message-ID: <1993Jul21.111827.23418@sics.se> Sender: news@sics.se Organization: Swedish Institute of Computer Science, Kista References: <22iltp$k8v@zippy.Telcom.Arizona.EDU> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1993 11:18:27 GMT In article <22iltp$k8v@zippy.Telcom.Arizona.EDU> writes: > Anyone experiencing problems with CraftMan(1.1) under NS3.1/FMP (i.e. > Motorola)? I'm getting "Open" errors on some stuff I wrote under NS3.0 > and some of CraftMan's own Demo's have the same problem. Any advice? > Don McCollam > citdem@happy.rc.arizona.edu CraftMan 1.1 does *not* work properly under NS 3.1. The current version of CraftMan is 2.0 and it runs on 3.1 (Motorola & Intel). Registered CraftMan users have received an upgrade offer to CraftMan 2.0. Please contact craftman@xanthus.se if you have not received it. Programs created with CraftMan 1.x will automatically load into CraftMan 2.0, except for database objects. The CraftMan 2.0 upgrade comes with a converter app that allows you to convert old database objects to CraftMan 2.0. Jesper Lundh Xanthus jesper@xanthus.se
From: balfanz@zorro.informatik.hu-berlin.de (Dirk Balfanz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: bash? Date: 21 Jul 1993 11:29:29 GMT Organization: Humboldt University Berlin, Department of Computer Science Distribution: world Message-ID: <22j9ap$m66@hahn.informatik.hu-berlin.de> Has anybody managed to build the Bourne Againe Shell? I tried to do release 1.12 under NS 3.0 but failed. Before I put too much into it I thought I'd better ask. Thanks in advance. Dirk.
From: dgaw@coactive.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: how to generate Mac-readable Postscript ? Date: 20 Jul 1993 20:16:14 GMT Organization: Coactive Aesthetics Inc. Message-ID: <22hjqeINNc76@disc.coactive.com> Can someone tell me how to generate a Mac readable (e.g., Photoshop) postscript file from ANYTHING on the NeXT (e.g, Illustrator) ?? Thanks, David. --
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bnocker@cosy.sbg.ac.at (Bernhard Nocker) Subject: Sybase database avaialble for NSFIP? Message-ID: <CAIIwo.5vp@cosy.sbg.ac.at> Keywords: Sybase databases NSFIP Sender: news@cosy.sbg.ac.at Organization: University of Salzburg / Austria Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1993 11:36:23 GMT Dear all, has anyone informations concering sybase database server running under NSFIP? What other database servers are currently available under NSFIP (Oracle, Ingres, ...)? Any suggestions and comments appriciated. Many thanks in advance, Bernhard -- Bernhard Nocker University of Salzburg's Department of Computing Studies Jakob-Haringerstr. 5 5020 Salzburg Austria, Europe Tel: +43-662-8044/6316 bnocker@cosy.sbg.ac.at Fax: +43-662-8044/6316 or +43-662-8044/611
From: rcbaab@rwa.urc.tue.nl (Annard Brouwer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: QuickBase: is interesting? Date: 21 Jul 1993 13:09:25 +0200 Organization: Eindhoven University of Technology, The Netherlands Distribution: world Message-ID: <rcbaab.743252843@rwa.urc.tue.nl> Keywords: QuickBase, database, DBKit Hello, Can somebody tell me something about QuickBase? How fast/easy-to-use is it? Can you build complicated databases with it? Please mail me your experiences. I will put a summary on the net... Thanks, Annard -- | Annard Brouwer Bitnet : rcgbbaab@heitue51 | NeXTmail appreciated! Internet : rcbaab@urc.tue.nl
From: jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Joseph W Reiss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Current NEXTSTEP EMACS front-end? Date: 21 Jul 1993 12:22:12 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <22jcdk$cuo@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> References: <CAHrn6.LH@ripple.uunet> <CEDMAN.93Jul20202346@golem.uci.edu> <22ipth$f4d@ursula.ee.pdx.edu> Marcus@ursula.ee.pdx.edu (Marcus Daniels) wrote... >To get the equivalent Emacs functionality for NS would be a >(big) Unix/C hacking project. To make Emacs really useful in the NS >environment (i.e. replace Edit, take on Project Builder functions, >etc.) would be a equally big project of all new NS development. I'm >interested in hearing how many NS developers would leave Edit for >Emacs. Well, I'm a developer wannabe (gotta find time to learn ObjC, etc, then I'll dive in). I've already got Emacs3.0 set up as my default editor instead of Edit. I even have it edit source files when opened from the Workspace. I prefer emacs many times more than Edit. I've just never really been excited in any way by what Edit offers. Maybe it's just me and the fact that I already know and like emacs... a lot! >At this point my attitude is that Emacs is what makes `other systems' >approximate the integration of NEXTSTEP. > >If anyone has ideas on what advantages Emacs19 would offer in the NEXTSTEP >environment, please post! Aside from the fact that a large portion of UNIX developers are already familiar with emacs and wouldn't have to learn a whole new editing paradigm when they wanted to program for NeXTSTEP? I think that alone might help make the platform more attractive to developers. Plus, you have all the added functionality of emacs versus other editors. Extending that functionality is just a matter of adding new lisp modules, where as Edit requires an entire recompile from NeXT. The fact that emacs is freely distributable would be a huge plus, and the availability of source code is always nice. Developers (and users, for that matter) would be able to tailor their editing environment to better suit their personal tastes. Let's just put it this way. If Edit is truly the way to go, why does NeXT also put emacs on its system distribution? Why do we have this nifty Emacs front end? In case you can't tell, I WAN'T 19.16 FOR NEXTSTEP!!!! ;-D Joe -- __________ | NeXTMail accepted, but not preferred | |___) | """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" \_/OE | \EISS | Real programmers don't write in Cobol. Cobol is for `---- | wimpy applications programmers.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bauer@galilei.lbm.mw.tu-muenchen.de (Sebastian Bauer) Subject: Re: bash? Message-ID: <1993Jul21.132842.4546@news.lrz-muenchen.de> Sender: news@news.lrz-muenchen.de (Mr. News) Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany) References: <22j9ap$m66@hahn.informatik.hu-berlin.de> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1993 13:28:42 GMT In article <22j9ap$m66@hahn.informatik.hu-berlin.de> balfanz@zorro.informatik.hu-berlin.de (Dirk Balfanz) writes: > Has anybody managed to build the Bourne Againe Shell? I tried to do > release 1.12 under NS 3.0 but failed. Before I put too much into it > I thought I'd better ask. > Thanks in advance. > > Dirk. Maybe you just get the compiled version of it from ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de (anonymous ftp), pathname /pub/NeXT/gnu-bin/bash-1.12-m68k.tar.gz or /pub/NeXT/gnu-bin/bash-1.12-NeXTbin.tar.gz (fat). Both have to get uncompressed with gzip (in /pub/NeXT/gzip-1.2.2-NeXTbin.tar or /pub/NeXT/gzip-1.2.2.tar). Because of links to hidden directories and some strange behaviour of this ftp-site, you may have problems accessing these files with Archie (NeXTstep version 2.09a) and with GatorFTP+; so you may have to use ftp in the Terminal.app Sebastian -------------------------------------------------------------------- Sebastian Bauer e-mail: <bauer@lbm.mw.tu-muenchen.de> at the Institute B for Mechanics (NeXTmail welcome) Technical University Munich, Germany --------------------------------------------------------------------
From: anstine@uniblab.sas.upenn.edu (David Anstine) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: DialUp-IP for 3.1 (black) Message-ID: <136989@netnews.upenn.edu> Date: 21 Jul 93 15:08:32 GMT Sender: news@netnews.upenn.edu Is this available yet? -dave -------------------------------------------- David Anstine NeXT Support Specialist University of Pennsylvania (215)573-3285 anstine@uniblab.sas.upenn.edu
From: cedman@golem.ps.uci.edu (Carl Edman) Subject: Re: Current NEXTSTEP EMACS front-end? Message-ID: <CEDMAN.93Jul21091137@golem.uci.edu> In-reply-to: marcus@ursula.ee.pdx.edu's message of 20 Jul 93 17:06:25 GMT Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software References: <1993Jul20.162205.6813@cs.yale.edu> <CAHrn6.LH@ripple.uunet> <CEDMAN.93Jul20202346@golem.uci.edu> <22ipth$f4d@ursula.ee.pdx.edu> Date: 21 Jul 93 16:11:53 GMT In article <22ipth$f4d@ursula.ee.pdx.edu> marcus@ursula.ee.pdx.edu (Marcus Daniels) writes: >In article <CAHrn6.LH@ripple.uunet> df@watershed.com (Dirk P. Fromhein) writes: > Yeah, I would love it if someone would create a real NeXTSTEP front > end to emacs 19.16. We actually run X windows just to use emacs > 19.16 with multiple Frames. It is one fantastic program. I have > been looking at the emacs 19.16 code and since the front end is X > based I think it would be a non-trivial port to NS. But it would > be well worth the effort. I would pay good money to have such a > beast. >Not only you. How much? What would you use it for? The question is moot. It is impossible to write a fully integrated NeXTstep interface for emacs and to sell it without violating the GNU Public Virus. As for what one would GNU Emacs for that's not a moot question. That's a silly question. [munch] >They offered to donate the code. All they asked was >that the code be included in the official emacs so that they wouldn't >need to write new patches every single time there was a new release of >Emacs 19 which these days happens every other week and often more >frequently than that. Mr Richard M Stallman with all his natural >charm that won him so many friends gave them his best wishes for a >trip to hell. >That cooled off the interest of at least this hacker. To include NEXTSTEP support as part of the normal distribution would set a big precedent. It would mean the FSF was advocating, in a way, a particular proprietary O.S.. The FSF is on a shoestring budget, and it is not suprising RMS wouldn't want to open a whole new can of worms (legal, technical, and practical). It is not a just a matter of dropping in a few files now and then-- FSF, et. al would have to factor in NEXTSTEP with every change they made. Emacs19 is still very Xlib. So I take it the FSF is at the time of this writing advocating several dozen operating systems only very few of which aren't proprietary ? In that case doubtless they already have solved the legal problems relating to that. As for practical and technical problems, nobody asked it to solve them. That is what the hackers offered to do free of charge. Also remember that Lucid successfully maintains a parallel version of Emacs19 (which Lucid, Blandy, & RMS are slowly integrating). It is conceivable they same thing could be done in the NEXTSTEP world. The people at Lucid get paid to keep their emacs version up to date. The people who offered to write a NeXTstep interface for emacs would not have been. To demand of them daily updates in addition to the several weeks at least for the original port would be taking things a little far. RMS has expressed interest in continuing to improve the event handling mechanisms to be more generic; specifically, to use the Xt/Lucid model. People interested in a NS port should be helping with those efforts. People interested in cooperating with RMS on any matter even those in his or the FSFs best interest should be prepared for a generous quantity of abuse. To get the equivalent Emacs functionality for NS would be a (big) Unix/C hacking project. To make Emacs really useful in the NS environment (i.e. replace Edit, take on Project Builder functions, etc.) would be a equally big project of all new NS development. I'm interested in hearing how many NS developers would leave Edit for Emacs. This NeXTstep developer never went to Edit from Emacs. For all its features Edit.app is a toy compared to Emacs even in its current NeXTstep form. Quite likely years of emacs have spoiled me but at this point doing any major work in an editor which is not fully programmable causes my head to ache. At this point my attitude is that Emacs is what makes `other systems' approximate the integration of NEXTSTEP. Please, all of us here (well, almost all) like NeXTstep, even love it. But to compare what emacs can do to what the bundled development tools can do, shows at least very superficial knowledge of the former. If anyone has ideas on what advantages Emacs19 would offer in the NEXTSTEP environment, please post! Emacs19 can be programmed to do anything and to do whatever it does the way I like it to be done. There are literarily thousands of free emacs lisp programs for every conceivable purpose available now. Edit is a "dumb" editor. If you have Emacs all it is good for is the occasional RTF file or maybe doing some short edits from the Projectbuider.
From: cs438@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Denis Lafont) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Changing the date format for Writenow! Date: 21 Jul 1993 17:06:28 GMT Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA) Message-ID: <22jt2k$e5@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> Hi, I wanted to change the date format in Writenow. I used the method described in the NeXTanswers (Winter 93), but it does not work... Any ideas ? Thanks, Denis -- _________________________________________________________________ Denis LAFONT, Software Engineer e-mail : cs438@cleveland.freenet.edu -no NeXT Mail please ;-(- Disclaimer: Any opinions expressed are mine.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: magnus@fisher.Stanford.EDU (Magnus Nordborg) Subject: Re: Current NEXTSTEP EMACS front-end? Message-ID: <1993Jul21.165237.8214@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: DSO, Stanford University References: <22ipth$f4d@ursula.ee.pdx.edu> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 93 16:52:37 GMT In article <22ipth$f4d@ursula.ee.pdx.edu> marcus@ursula.ee.pdx.edu (Marcus Daniels) writes: > >In article <CAHrn6.LH@ripple.uunet> df@watershed.com (Dirk P. Fromhein) writes: > > Yeah, I would love it if someone would create a real NeXTSTEP front > > end to emacs 19.16. We actually run X windows just to use emacs > > 19.16 with multiple Frames. It is one fantastic program. I have > > been looking at the emacs 19.16 code and since the front end is X > > based I think it would be a non-trivial port to NS. But it would > > be well worth the effort. I would pay good money to have such a > > beast. > > >Not only you. > > How much? What would you use it for? More than I would pay for WordPerfect or any other wordprocessor. For usage see below. > If anyone has ideas on what advantages Emacs19 would offer in the > NEXTSTEP environment, please post! > > > marcus First there is the fact that emacs is well known by many already. Second, if you know emacs, there simply is no better alternative. Not only is it a better editor in and of itself, it has all the extension options. I write in TeX/LaTeX and could never be without auc-tex (which replaces TeXmenu and other NeXTApps). I use bibtex and could not be without the bibtex-mode (no NeXT replacement available). I use dired/ange-ftp (replaces and is superior to GatorFTP and such). I program in C++ and want c++-mode. I obviously run make and gdb from emacs (no advantage to edit here). I use outline-mode (no advantage...). I use emacs for news and mail when I have to login via dumb terminals. I use info for reading the GNU documentation (not to say that I wouldn't prefer using Librarian). Etc, etc. Summa summarum, I think Edit has two advantages over emacs -- proper mouse support and multiple windows. These would go away with Emacs-19. Edit is of course also easier to use than emacs, but with the proper NeXTstep menu implementation the need for beginners to ever touch Control or Meta keys would go away, and it would be possible to work towards mastery :-) In my opinion, such a product would replace Edit. We would certainly pay for it. -- Magnus Nordborg magnus@fisher.stanford.edu (NeXT mail preferred) Department of Biological Sciences Stanford University Stanford, CA 94305-5020 +1 (415) 723-4952 (office)
From: Hal.Varian@umich.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: how to make my screen display on a LAN of NeXTs Date: 21 Jul 1993 17:11:12 GMT Organization: University of Michigan - College of Literature, Science, and TheArts Distribution: world Message-ID: <22jtbg$1bf@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu> I recall hearing about some software that would allow me to display my screen on a local network of NeXTs. This would be useful for presentations, teaching, etc. Can anybody point me towards the producers of such products? -- Hal.Varian@umich.edu Hal Varian voice: 313-764-2364 Dept of Economics fax: 313-764-2364 Univ of Michigan Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1220
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: cjb@canopus.Stanford.EDU (Cecil Bloch) Subject: Experience with IconMaker? Message-ID: <1993Jul21.183901.12982@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: DSO, Stanford University Date: Wed, 21 Jul 93 18:39:01 GMT Has anyone used IconMaker from Blue Sky in Sherman Oaks -- the real thing, not the demo? Opinions? Recommendations?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: debaud@cc.gatech.edu (Jean-Marc Debaud) Subject: INSTALLATION BUG SOLVED ! Message-ID: <1993Jul21.194822.5723@cc.gatech.edu> Sender: news@cc.gatech.edu Organization: Georgia Tech College of Computing Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1993 19:48:22 GMT To everyone on the net who may have had this problem. System: Compaq 486/66M Qvision graphics NEC CD-ROM 74-1 SCSI id 1 Quatum 1225S SCSI id 0 NEC Multisync 5gf DPT 2012/B/90 SMC elite 16 card. Problem 1. Would not recognize cd-rom in system. Then: Configure DPT card for IRQ 15 edge trigerred. Choose I/O mode to secondary/non bootable. This with the EISA configure utility. then, Problem 2. System would then recognize the CD-ROM but still crashed later on after resetting the SCSI BUS. Actually it would loop forever on the cd-rom. then: Configure DPT card with a maximum SCSI bus transfer rate of 5 M/sec. I had 10 M/sec and it didn't work. Note: That may have been a problem with my particular CD-ROM. Installation will then proceed. JM debaud@cc.gatech.edu NOTE: FLAMES TO NeXT FOR THEIR INCAPACITY TO GIVE US MORE INSTALLATION DETAILS ON THE PLATFORM (HARWARE SUCH AS THE DPT CARD) THEY RECOMMENDED. THIS IS NOT ACCEPTABLE FROM A COMPANY THAT NOW RELIES ON SOFTWARE. I NEARLY GAVE UP. I MUST NOT BE THE ONLY ONE.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: rjp@netcom.com (Richard Plevin) Subject: 3.1 Upgrade app hanging due to Turbo serial port problem Message-ID: <rjpCAJ657.D0q@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1993 19:58:18 GMT DON'T DO WHAT I DID: I turned off my modem prior to running the 3.1 upgrade app as a simple (ha!) means of disabling the usual polling for mail. After the upgrade was complete, the upgrade program hung while trying to kill all processes, requiring a hard reboot, which left my boot disk in a nasty state. A few iterations later, I discovered that it was the FaxDaemon process that refused to die. Once I arranged to reboot without this process, I was able to complete the upgrade. Being an NXFax user, I emailed Black & White software to ask what they knew of this and received the following explanation: "There is a problem with the serial driver on Turbos which causes processes such as Fax drivers to hang when the modem is turned off. In general, any time you are going to turn the modem off you should first make the modem Unavailable through the PrintManager. This will prevent the fax driver from trying to communicate with the modem." I wish I knew this yesterday... -Rich
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: coconut@crash.cts.com (Brian Dear) Subject: Drawing/Graphics programs for NS/I Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA Date: 21 Jul 93 13:40:38 PDT Message-ID: <1993Jul21.134038.10856@crash> Ok, I'm confused. I need to do color, CMYK graphics artwork on a NEXTSTEP/Intel machine. What options do I have? * Virtuoso people say "wait 6-8 weeks" * Adobe Illustrator -- what's that? * ??? Is there ANYTHING available that has the equivalent of Virtuoso and Illustrator for NS/I? That I can buy THIS MINUTE and have arrive TOMORROW MORNING? Like, I need it immediately. Can anyone suggest some software that is available?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: df@watershed.com (Dirk P. Fromhein) Subject: Re: Any plotting packages for the NeXT? Message-ID: <CAHt7K.oL@ripple.uunet> Sender: jaeger@ripple.uunet (Dirk P. Fromhein) Organization: Watershed Technologies, Inc. References: <1993Jul20.140752.5361@cs.yale.edu> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1993 02:21:20 GMT Hi there, We create a commercial package called GraphRight that does some scientific plots (and will do more in the near future). You can see it in action at the Yale Police Department... I will admit that it is geared toward Financial and Business users, but I feel that as of today it is the best thing out for NeXTSTEP. It was mostly modeled after Cricket Graph on the Mac, but it has all the NeXT-aware features that one would expect. These include: -Rich API based on Distributed Objects for custom applications to use. -RTF word processor with spell checking in all languages that NeXT supports -Dynamic Object Linking Call us at (508)-460-9612 for a free evaluation copy. Dirk Fromhein df@watershed.com Watershed technologies, inc. (508)-460-9612 (508)-481-3955 Fax for info on send mail to graphright@watershed.com In article <1993Jul20.140752.5361@cs.yale.edu> temple@bragg.biology.yale.edu ("Temple Burling") writes: > Does anyone know whether a decent scientific plotting package exists for > the next, comercial or otherwise. I've used NXYplot which is ok for quick > and dirty plots, I find SciPlot somewhat cumbersome. Lotus Improv is a > pig and most of the stuff it does I don't want. I'm looking for something > on the line of KaleidaGraph for the Mac, heck even something like cricket > graph would be ok. > > Thanks for your help. > > P.S. are there any login windows out there with baseball players on them? > I hate the one I have now.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: df@watershed.com (Dirk P. Fromhein) Subject: Re: Current NEXTSTEP EMACS front-end? Message-ID: <CAIwIL.25F@ripple.uunet> Sender: jaeger@ripple.uunet (Dirk P. Fromhein) Organization: Watershed Technologies, Inc. References: <CEDMAN.93Jul20202346@golem.uci.edu> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1993 16:30:21 GMT Carl, Why not do it anyway... :-) No really, I'm sure that many other people would be interested... I have a feeling that it would not be all that much work once the core functionality was defined. Much of the code could be swiped from Emacs 3.0. I think that would be fantastic... RMS is a fantastic programmer, but has little in the ways of social graces. If the front end were done like Emacs 3.0, emacs could go through revisions without forcing a recompile every few weeks on the front end side. Go for it! Dirk Fromhein df@watershed.com In article <CEDMAN.93Jul20202346@golem.uci.edu> cedman@golem.ps.uci.edu (Carl Edman) writes: > In article <CAHrn6.LH@ripple.uunet> df@watershed.com (Dirk P. Fromhein) writes: > Yeah, I would love it if someone would create a real NeXTSTEP front > end to emacs 19.16. We actually run X windows just to use emacs > 19.16 with multiple Frames. [munch] > > Not only you. > > Oh well ... where have all the hackers gone ... :-) > > They went to Richard M Stallman of the Free Software Foundation and > offered to write a complete NeXTstep interface to emacs with all the > functionality of the X window interface. They asked for no support > from the FSF. They offered to donate the code. All they asked was > that the code be included in the official emacs so that they wouldn't > need to write new patches every single time there was a new release of > Emacs 19 which these days happens every other week and often more > frequently than that. Mr Richard M Stallman with all his natural > charm that won him so many friends gave them his best wishes for a > trip to hell. > > That cooled off the interest of at least this hacker. > > Carl Edman
From: anstine@uniblab.sas.upenn.edu (David Anstine) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Multiuser flat-file databases, anyone? Message-ID: <137083@netnews.upenn.edu> Date: 21 Jul 93 21:37:38 GMT Sender: news@netnews.upenn.edu I need something like DataPhile, but with multi-user capability, for some (very) simple databasing. Any suggestions? -dave
From: cedman@golem.ps.uci.edu (Carl Edman) Subject: Re: Current NEXTSTEP EMACS front-end? Message-ID: <CEDMAN.93Jul21152858@golem.uci.edu> In-reply-to: df@watershed.com's message of Wed, 21 Jul 1993 16:30:21 GMT Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software References: <CEDMAN.93Jul20202346@golem.uci.edu> <CAIwIL.25F@ripple.uunet> Date: 21 Jul 93 22:29:11 GMT In article <CAIwIL.25F@ripple.uunet> df@watershed.com (Dirk P. Fromhein) writes: Why not do it anyway... :-) No really, I'm sure that many other people would be interested... I have a feeling that it would not be all that much work once the core functionality was defined. Much of the code could be swiped from Emacs 3.0. Well, yes, a fully NeXTstep compatible version of Emacs 19 would be quite beautiful. Still porting Emacs 19 right would be a considerable task even for programmers who know Emacs, X windows _and_ NeXTstep very well. But add having to fight RMS and the FSF every step of the way and you have a task which I doubt anybody will do who is not paid for it. And given the GPV nobody is going to get paid for doing it (unless, possibly NeXT themselves decides to do it). That this seems unlikely to come about is just about the only reason I even consider an X windows system for my next workstation. I think that would be fantastic... RMS is a fantastic programmer, but has little in the ways of social graces. How true. Both statements. There is much to be told about that, but I guess we'll leave those matters for the unauthorized biography. :-) If the front end were done like Emacs 3.0, emacs could go through revisions without forcing a recompile every few weeks on the front end side. Nice idea, but Emacs 3.0 is close to how far that approach will go -- the cleverness it requires currently is amazing enough. Adapting it to be multi-window, multi-font, fully mouse and menu supporting without altering a single line of the basic emacs source I believe to be almost impossible. Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: grio@cse.psu.edu (Daniel L Grillo) Subject: NEXTSTEP MHish mail program Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID: <CAJH69.FnK@cs.psu.edu> Makemail: v1.9 Sender: news@cs.psu.edu (Usenet) Organization: Penn State Computer Science Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1993 23:56:32 GMT Dmail: v1.5g Is there a NEXTSTEP program floating around the net that can deal with mh mail folders? Please reply via email, I'll summarize. Thanks, --Dan -- Dan Grillo grio@cse.psu.edu [NeXTmail, PrivateMail, MIME welcome]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: magnus@fisher.Stanford.EDU (Magnus Nordborg) Subject: Re: Current NEXTSTEP EMACS front-end? Message-ID: <1993Jul22.000136.26437@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: DSO, Stanford University References: <CEDMAN.93Jul21152858@golem.uci.edu> Date: Thu, 22 Jul 93 00:01:36 GMT In article <CEDMAN.93Jul21152858@golem.uci.edu> cedman@golem.ps.uci.edu (Carl Edman) writes: > Well, yes, a fully NeXTstep compatible version of Emacs 19 would be > quite beautiful. Still porting Emacs 19 right would be a considerable > task even for programmers who know Emacs, X windows _and_ NeXTstep > very well. But add having to fight RMS and the FSF every step of the > way and you have a task which I doubt anybody will do who is not paid > for it. And given the GPV nobody is going to get paid for doing it > (unless, possibly NeXT themselves decides to do it). That this seems > unlikely to come about is just about the only reason I even consider > an X windows system for my next workstation. Is it necessarily the case that noone can get paid for it? Granted, all code would have to be public (like NeXT does with gcc), but I don't see why one could not ask for money. I'd pay. :-) -- Magnus Nordborg magnus@fisher.stanford.edu (NeXT mail preferred) Department of Biological Sciences Stanford University Stanford, CA 94305-5020 +1 (415) 723-4952 (office)
From: dwight@toolucky.llnl.gov ( Dwight Shih ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Current NEXTSTEP EMACS front-end? Date: 21 Jul 93 17:07:24 Organization: Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory Message-ID: <DWIGHT.93Jul21170724@toolucky.llnl.gov> References: <CEDMAN.93Jul20202346@golem.uci.edu> <CAIwIL.25F@ripple.uunet> <CEDMAN.93Jul21152858@golem.uci.edu> In-reply-to: cedman@golem.ps.uci.edu's message of 21 Jul 93 22:29:11 GMT In article <CEDMAN.93Jul21152858@golem.uci.edu> cedman@golem.ps.uci.edu (Carl Edman) writes: In article <CAIwIL.25F@ripple.uunet> df@watershed.com (Dirk P. Fromhein) writes: Why not do it anyway... :-) No really, I'm sure that many other people would be interested... I have a feeling that it would not be all that much work once the core functionality was defined. Much of the code could be swiped from Emacs 3.0. Well, yes, a fully NeXTstep compatible version of Emacs 19 would be quite beautiful. Still porting Emacs 19 right would be a considerable task even for programmers who know Emacs, X windows _and_ NeXTstep very well. But add having to fight RMS and the FSF every step of the way and you have a task which I doubt anybody will do who is not paid for it. And given the GPV nobody is going to get paid for doing it (unless, possibly NeXT themselves decides to do it). That this seems Opinions about the GPL/GPV aside, just why do you say that nobody is going to be paid for doing it? I would certainly be willing to lay out $100 for a good emacs-19 port. Of course, you would have to make the source available, but so what. And while I would probably apply simple upgrades to emacs 19 myself, I'm confident that the FSF will toss in the occasional complex bug fix that I'd just as soon pay someone else to take care of for me (ie, there's a healthy upgrade market as well). Of course, there's the fear of rampant legal piracy. But personally, I think that with appropriate pricing, the NeXT emacs community would just as soon pay to keep someone in business so that they could count on reasonably priced upgrades.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: df@watershed.com (Dirk P. Fromhein) Subject: Re: Current NEXTSTEP EMACS front-end? Message-ID: <CAJHMq.3B4@ripple.uunet> Sender: jaeger@ripple.uunet (Dirk P. Fromhein) Organization: Watershed Technologies, Inc. References: <22ipth$f4d@ursula.ee.pdx.edu> Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1993 00:06:26 GMT As I said before, we have already replaced Edit with Emacs. I've hacked Emacs 3.0 to add some functionality that I need, but I would like much more. I don't think it would be all that bad... the Emacs 3.0 front end already provides 80% of what one needs. Dirk Fromhein In article <22ipth$f4d@ursula.ee.pdx.edu> marcus@ursula.ee.pdx.edu (Marcus Daniels) writes: [munch munch munch] > > To get the equivalent Emacs functionality for NS would be a > (big) Unix/C hacking project. To make Emacs really useful in the NS > environment (i.e. replace Edit, take on Project Builder functions, > etc.) would be a equally big project of all new NS development. I'm > interested in hearing how many NS developers would leave Edit for > Emacs. > > At this point my attitude is that Emacs is what makes `other systems' > approximate the integration of NEXTSTEP. > > If anyone has ideas on what advantages Emacs19 would offer in the NEXTSTEP > environment, please post! > > > marcus
From: fbap3030@leonis.nus.sg () Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Deskjet driver Date: 22 Jul 1993 01:31:09 GMT Organization: National University of Singapore Message-ID: <22kqkt$e91@nuscc.nus.sg> Hi Netter, Does anyone know where I can get hold of the HP Deskjet driver? Someone told me that it is in sonata.cc.purdue.edu but I could not locate them. Please let me know if you have the answer. Thanks ------ ,,, sayoonara o o / ----------------------ooO--U--Ooo------------------------------------ Paul Wang Internet: fbap3030@nusunix.nus.sg Alink: paul.wang uucp: cmshost!spynet!paul mail: Blk 339, Hougang Ave 7, ------- __o #13-415, S(1953) ------- _`\<,_ Tel: (65) 2884184 ------- (*)/ (*) ---------------------------------------------------------------------
From: marcus@ursula.ee.pdx.edu (Marcus Daniels) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Current NEXTSTEP EMACS front-end? Message-ID: <22l44o$158@ursula.ee.pdx.edu> Date: 22 Jul 93 04:13:12 GMT References: <CEDMAN.93Jul20202346@golem.uci.edu> <CAIwIL.25F@ripple.uunet> <CEDMAN.93Jul21152858@golem.uci.edu> cedman@golem.ps.uci.edu (Carl Edman) writes: >In article <CAIwIL.25F@ripple.uunet> df@watershed.com (Dirk P. Fromhein) writes: > Why not do it anyway... :-) No really, I'm sure that many other > people would be interested... I have a feeling that it would not be > all that much work once the core functionality was defined. Much > of the code could be swiped from Emacs 3.0. Perhaps, depending on limited ambitions. >Well, yes, a fully NeXTstep compatible version of Emacs 19 would be >quite beautiful. Still porting Emacs 19 right would be a considerable >task even for programmers who know Emacs, X windows _and_ NeXTstep >very well. But add having to fight RMS and the FSF every step of the >way and you have a task which I doubt anybody will do who is not paid >for it. And given the GPV nobody is going to get paid for doing it >(unless, possibly NeXT themselves decides to do it). That this seems >unlikely to come about is just about the only reason I even consider >an X windows system for my next workstation. If it must be a comercial venture, so be it. Release the source. If that isn't acceptable, come up with some companion products to sell. I can imagine some nifty `service' based interfaces to Emacs. How about and ELISP interface to TickeServices? I'm probably overly idealistic, but hasn't the day of software cooperatives come? .. > I think that would be fantastic... RMS is a fantastic programmer, > but has little in the ways of social graces. >How true. Both statements. There is much to be told about that, but I >guess we'll leave those matters for the unauthorized biography. :-) Oh come on, RMS may be blunt and difficult to work with from the point of view of `the industry'. Hell, he is a volunteer! Probably 70% of Emacs19 users never submit bug reports or do anything but request features. I'd get miffed and be pretty cautions about starting new projects too. The GPL is obviously intended to be virus-like. And it is doing a pretty good job. Anyway.... > If the front end were done like Emacs 3.0, emacs could go through > revisions without forcing a recompile every few weeks on the front > end side. >Nice idea, but Emacs 3.0 is close to how far that approach will go -- >the cleverness it requires currently is amazing enough. Adapting it >to be multi-window, multi-font, fully mouse and menu supporting >without altering a single line of the basic emacs source I believe to >be almost impossible. I agree. To the extent possible that is a good approach, but Emacs19 would have to be enhanced significantly to be generic enough to support NS.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: magnus@fisher.Stanford.EDU (Magnus Nordborg) Subject: Re: Current NEXTSTEP EMACS front-end? Message-ID: <1993Jul22.045501.4781@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: DSO, Stanford University References: <22l44o$158@ursula.ee.pdx.edu> Date: Thu, 22 Jul 93 04:55:01 GMT How difficult would it be? If you can get $100 per copy and want $50/h (you get to have fun as well) you can spend 2 h per copy sold. How many users are there...? Of course, once you have added things like NeXTstep help interface to info, and thus created the Ultimate Editor, NeXT will buy it and throw out Edit while you retire to some tropical island (with your multi-processor NeXT) and write beautiful screensavers the rest of your life... -- Magnus Nordborg magnus@fisher.stanford.edu (NeXT mail preferred) Department of Biological Sciences Stanford University Stanford, CA 94305-5020 +1 (415) 723-4952 (office)
From: marcus@ursula.ee.pdx.edu (Marcus Daniels) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Current NEXTSTEP EMACS front-end? Message-ID: <22l6jn$1jp@ursula.ee.pdx.edu> Date: 21 Jul 93 14:55:19 GMT Article-I.D.: ursula.22l6jn$1jp References: <1993Jul20.162205.6813@cs.yale.edu> <CAHrn6.LH@ripple.uunet> <CEDMAN.93Jul20202346@golem.uci.edu> <22ipth$f4d@ursula.ee.pdx.edu> <CEDMAN.93Jul21091137@golem.uci.edu> cedman@golem.ps.uci.edu (Carl Edman) writes: > >Not only you. > How much? What would you use it for? >The question is moot. It is impossible to write a fully integrated >NeXTstep interface for emacs and to sell it without violating the GNU >Public Virus. As for what one would GNU Emacs for that's not a moot >question. That's a silly question. No it isn't, the FSF raises funds to develop software. I was simply suggesting doing the same thing. You can sell GPL'ed software. From Emacs19 GPL, `COPYING'. For example, if you distribute copies of such a program, whether gratis or for a fee, you must give the recipients all the rights that you have. You must make sure that they, too, receive or can get the source code. And you must show them these terms so they know their rights. > To include NEXTSTEP support as part of the normal distribution would > set a big precedent. It would mean the FSF was advocating, in a way, > a particular proprietary O.S.. The FSF is on a shoestring budget, and > it is not suprising RMS wouldn't want to open a whole new can of worms > (legal, technical, and practical). It is not a just a matter of > dropping in a few files now and then-- FSF, et. al would have to > factor in NEXTSTEP with every change they made. Emacs19 is still very > Xlib. >So I take it the FSF is at the time of this writing advocating several >dozen operating systems only very few of which aren't proprietary ? >In that case doubtless they already have solved the legal problems >relating to that. As for practical and technical problems, nobody >asked it to solve them. That is what the hackers offered to do free >of charge. No, in case I wasn't clear enough: the variation between different vendor's Unix OS's are relatively minor. Supporting a variety of Unix systems is just part of making a stable product. Supporting NEXTSTEP would be from the ground up specific to a particular vendor. Furthermore, X11 is publicly available, NEXTSTEP is not. > Also remember that Lucid successfully maintains a parallel version of > Emacs19 (which Lucid, Blandy, & RMS are slowly integrating). It > is conceivable they same thing could be done in the NEXTSTEP world. >The people at Lucid get paid to keep their emacs version up to date. >The people who offered to write a NeXTstep interface for emacs would >not have been. To demand of them daily updates in addition to the >several weeks at least for the original port would be taking things a >little far. I wasn't necessarily under the supposition that such a hypothetical group wouldn't get paid. > RMS has expressed interest in continuing to improve the event handling > mechanisms to be more generic; specifically, to use the Xt/Lucid model. > People interested in a NS port should be helping with those > efforts. >People interested in cooperating with RMS on any matter even those in >his or the FSFs best interest should be prepared for a generous >quantity of abuse. As been said many times, the FSF has socio-politcal goals. If one tries to discount these goals, developing products which neglect or damage this goal, it isn't suprising you might not be treated nicely. >This NeXTstep developer never went to Edit from Emacs. For all its >features Edit.app is a toy compared to Emacs even in its current >NeXTstep form. Quite likely years of emacs have spoiled me but at >this point doing any major work in an editor which is not fully >programmable causes my head to ache. > At this point my attitude is that Emacs is what makes `other systems' > approximate the integration of NEXTSTEP. >Please, all of us here (well, almost all) like NeXTstep, even love >it. But to compare what emacs can do to what the bundled development >tools can do, shows at least very superficial knowledge of the >former. I've been using Emacs for years too. But its design doesn't mesh in an immediate obvious way with the way NEXTSTEP does things. Using vm mail or the Emacs(18) gdb interface with NEXTSTEP just seems goofy. When I use X, Emacs19 (with GWM) are the environment -- I don't use xterm. X is anarchy, Emacs provides structure. When I use NEXTSTEP, Edit is obviously not the center of the enviornment. I could see how it would be nice to have better programmatic control over the NEXTSTEP workspace, but not by sidestepping it and living`inside' another program. Services, or a DO's daemon might be ways around this. I'm not saying Emacs couldn't take over Edit.app, I'm just saying it would be a waste of Emacs (since rightly or wrongly, NeXT clearly doesn't intend for Edit to be used for all the things Emacs can be). > If anyone has ideas on what advantages Emacs19 would offer in the NEXTSTEP > environment, please post! >Emacs19 can be programmed to do anything and to do whatever it does >the way I like it to be done. There are literarily thousands of free >emacs lisp programs for every conceivable purpose available now. Edit >is a "dumb" editor. If you have Emacs all it is good for is the >occasional RTF file or maybe doing some short edits from the >Projectbuider. For developers who mostly do NS stuff, `occasional' doesn't go with `RTF'. Edit lacks many things, but wouldn't you agree it is nice to be able to bring up five windows from Project builder and have it `just work' with gdb, etc.. Naturally all these things could be done (better) with Emacs. But at this point they are not. Using Emacs3.0 for NEXSTEP development is somewhat awkward. marcus
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: geoff@locus.com (Geoff Kuenning) Subject: Re: Current NEXTSTEP EMACS front-end? Message-ID: <1993Jul21.235259.620446@locus.com> Organization: Locus Computing Corporation, Los Angeles, California References: <CAHrn6.LH@ripple.uunet> <CEDMAN.93Jul20202346@golem.uci.edu> <22ipth$f4d@ursula.ee.pdx.edu> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 93 23:52:59 GMT In article <22ipth$f4d@ursula.ee.pdx.edu> marcus@ursula.ee.pdx.edu (Marcus Daniels) writes: > To include NEXTSTEP support as part of the normal distribution would > set a big precedent. It would mean the FSF was advocating, in a way, > a particular proprietary O.S. The precedent was set a long time ago. Emacs is loaded with bits special code so that it can support proprietary OS's and hardware. Just as one example, I note that the source directory contains header files for VMS. Next excuse, please? -- Geoff Kuenning geoff@prodnet.la.locus.com geoff@itcorp.com
From: cs438@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Denis Lafont) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Project Management Software Date: 22 Jul 1993 11:08:26 GMT Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA) Message-ID: <22lsfa$d42@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> Are there any software dealing with project management for NS ? Thanks, Denis -- _________________________________________________________________ Denis LAFONT, Software Engineer e-mail : cs438@cleveland.freenet.edu -no NeXT Mail please ;-(- Disclaimer: Any opinions expressed are mine.
From: gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: How to Get Emacs 3.0 to Work? Date: 22 Jul 1993 11:29:39 GMT Organization: University of Maryland, College Park Message-ID: <22ltn3$iuv@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> Hi, I have emacs installed and use it. However, when I try to use the front end (Emacs 3.0) I can't open any files, though I have permission, and I get an error message that my host is unknown. What obvious mistake am I making? Thanks A. Brooks
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software From: jpw@sansfoy.lib.Virginia.EDU (John Price-Wilkin) Subject: Tseng Labs and no color Message-ID: <CAKD89.483@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU Organization: University of Virginia Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1993 11:28:56 GMT We've got NSI installed on a 486-66 with a Tseng Labs ET 4000 graphics card and 1M VRAM. Eveerything seems to work wonderfully, but we get no color. Is there a trick to getting color with this card? John Price-Wilkin jpw@virginia.edu jpw@sansfoy.lib.Virginia.EDU (NeXTMail)
From: marcus@ursula.ee.pdx.edu (Marcus Daniels) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Current NEXTSTEP EMACS front-end? Date: 22 Jul 1993 05:36:26 -0700 Message-ID: <22m1ka$4tq@ursula.ee.pdx.edu> References: <CAHrn6.LH@ripple.uunet> <CEDMAN.93Jul20202346@golem.uci.edu> <22ipth$f4d@ursula.ee.pdx.edu> <1993Jul21.235259.620446@locus.com> geoff@locus.com (Geoff Kuenning) writes: >In article <22ipth$f4d@ursula.ee.pdx.edu> marcus@ursula.ee.pdx.edu >(Marcus Daniels) writes: >> To include NEXTSTEP support as part of the normal distribution would >> set a big precedent. It would mean the FSF was advocating, in a way, >> a particular proprietary O.S. >The precedent was set a long time ago. Emacs is loaded with bits >special code so that it can support proprietary OS's and hardware. >Just as one example, I note that the source directory contains header >files for VMS. >Next excuse, please? Yeah, just as I posted VMS occured to me. Good point. Gotta admit, though, a (emacs _19_) NS port is a wee bit larger project than a VMS port (yes I've used VMS emacs, and done VMS programming). What in the world did rms say to these good-charitable-NEXTSTEP-folks. I've asked him about an Emacs19 port before and maybe got what you would consider a cold shoulder.. But jeez, I'm sure they do have their hands full. I recieve the Objective-C mailing list, and RMS periodically contributes to the discussion, I never got the impression he was stonewalling the project or disliked NeXT. The FSF is one organization with a explicit set of goals. The way people talk about them (and particularly rms) you'd think the FSF was doing something fradulent. I realize people get annoyed when rms rejects patches. I'm sure it is done fairly frequently for non-techincal reasons. But people have this notion their entitled to the FSF's cooperation. o.k. rms is a bad person. :-) Now on the matter of porting Emacs.
From: brunkhorst@mayo.edu (Geoff Brunkhorst) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Deskjet driver Date: 22 Jul 1993 13:57:44 GMT Organization: Mayo Foundation Distribution: world Message-ID: <22m6co$a2j@fermat.mayo.edu> References: <22kqkt$e91@nuscc.nus.sg> In article <22kqkt$e91@nuscc.nus.sg> fbap3030@leonis.nus.sg () writes: > Does anyone know where I can get hold of the HP Deskjet driver? Someone > told me that it is in sonata.cc.purdue.edu but I could not > locate them. Please let me know if you have the answer. > should be on sonata:/pub/next/3.0/src/djf.tar.Z. This is the 3.0 version. NB: Officially, the use of this driver requires purchase of the Adobe RIP license for small (<$1000, <900dpi) computers @$US75. NeXT (1-800-848-NeXT) has a part number for this, and will accept personal checks, MC, VISA for payment. Under NS3.0, RIPping to a NonNeXT hardcopy device (fax modems don't count) is subject to this user license. - Geoff ----------------------------------------------------------------- Geoffrey Brunkhorst brunkhorst@Mayo.edu Research Computing Facility, Guggenheim 10 (507) 284-1805 Mayo Foundation, Rochester MN, 55905, USA fax (507) 284-5231
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software From: tgall@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Tom Gall) Subject: Re: Tseng Labs and no color Sender: news@rchland.ibm.com Message-ID: <1993Jul22.141404.10880@rchland.ibm.com> Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1993 14:14:04 GMT Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM References: <CAKD89.483@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> Organization: IBM Rochester In article <CAKD89.483@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, jpw@sansfoy.lib.Virginia.EDU (John Price-Wilkin) writes: |> We've got NSI installed on a 486-66 with a Tseng Labs ET 4000 |> graphics card and 1M VRAM. Eveerything seems to work wonderfully, |> but we get no color. Is there a trick to getting color with |> this card? |> Nope, there is no trick, the Tseng ET4000 will not do color in NeXTSTEP. There are a couple of technical reasons for this. The bottem line is, NeXT didn't impliment the Tseng ET4000 driver to do color. 1) If you are running in 1024x768, and want color, 1 Meg of VRAM will not be enough. (For 640x480 it would enough tho) 2) More than likely your graphics card isn't local bus. Color modes need to move many more bytes across the bus to get the job done. ISA can barely handle the job. (Have you noticed how jerky your display is when moving windows around in black and white? color would be much worse!) |> John Price-Wilkin |> jpw@virginia.edu |> jpw@sansfoy.lib.Virginia.EDU (NeXTMail) So sorry to say, you won't be able to do color, save up those pennies for a ATI local bus card or something to that effect. You'll be glad you did! Tom -- tgall@rchvmw2.vnet.ibm.com (work -- NeXTMail NOT ok) _________________________________________________________________________ |o|Tom Gall "Where's the ka-boom? There was supposed |o| |o|Dept 45 N to be an earth shattering ka-boom!" |o| |o|Performance Tools III -- Marvin Martian ____ |o| |o|006-2 / B209 /\___\ |o| |o|IBM Rochester 3-4558 #include<std.disclaimer.h> \/___/ |o|
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jmh@hamming (Jean-Marc Heneman) Subject: Re: QuickBase: is interesting? Message-ID: <1993Jul22.133320.18455@vlsi.polymtl.ca> Sender: news@vlsi.polymtl.ca (USENET News System) Organization: Ecole Polytechnique de Montreal References: <rcbaab.743252843@rwa.urc.tue.nl> Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1993 13:33:20 GMT Annard Brouwer (rcbaab@rwa.urc.tue.nl) wrote: : Hello, : : Can somebody tell me something about QuickBase? How fast/easy-to-use is it? : Can you build complicated databases with it? : Please mail me your experiences. I will put a summary on the net... : : Thanks, : Annard : -- : | Annard Brouwer Bitnet : rcgbbaab@heitue51 : | NeXTmail appreciated! Internet : rcbaab@urc.tue.nl hi annard, i'm currently in the process of evaluation of quickbase... i can't tell right now if it is interesting. my knowledge in this kind of software is perhaps too light. what i know is : yes you can build complicated database. i did not benchmark quickbase, thus i don't know if it is fast... i will call sofdesign for library question (is the environment package have libraries enough to be able to speak SQL to the server in order to transfer my old database?) -- jmh
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: frank@spock.physik.uni-konstanz.de (Frank Burgbacher) Subject: Problem with Edit and TeX Message-ID: <1993Jul22.152106.140254@eratu.rz.uni-konstanz.de> Keywords: Edit,TeX Sender: usenet@eratu.rz.uni-konstanz.de Organization: Uni Konstanz Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1993 15:21:06 GMT Hello My problem is, that not all text I enter with "Edit" seem to be visible to TeX. It happens, that a whole paragraph is missing. I assume that there are some hidden characters which are not visible in the Edit-window. Normally I can recover the text by deleting and reinserting of blanks or something like that, but this takes several runs of TeX to find the place. Any idea to avoid this ? It s annoying. Thank you Frank
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: marsu@palumbia.in-berlin.de (Henrik Hempelmann) Subject: Re: bash? Message-ID: <1993Jul21.214133.11589@palumbia.in-berlin.de> Organization: Palumbia, Home of the marsupilami References: <22j9ap$m66@hahn.informatik.hu-berlin.de> <1993Jul21.132842.4546@news.lrz-muenchen.de> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1993 21:41:33 GMT bauer@galilei.lbm.mw.tu-muenchen.de (Sebastian Bauer) writes: >In article <22j9ap$m66@hahn.informatik.hu-berlin.de> >balfanz@zorro.informatik.hu-berlin.de (Dirk Balfanz) writes: >> Has anybody managed to build the Bourne Againe Shell? I tried to do >Maybe you just get the compiled version of it from ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de >(anonymous ftp), pathname /pub/NeXT/gnu-bin/bash-1.12-m68k.tar.gz or >/pub/NeXT/gnu-bin/bash-1.12-NeXTbin.tar.gz (fat). Both have to get >uncompressed with gzip (in /pub/NeXT/gzip-1.2.2-NeXTbin.tar or >/pub/NeXT/gzip-1.2.2.tar). the *-NeXTbin.tar.gz are not FAT! they are compiled with 3.0 and are just links to *-m68k.tar.gz. Maybe this will change in the future, when 3.1 is installed on our campus-machines. bye, Henrik -- marsu@palumbia.in-berlin.de (NeXT-Mail) Henrik Hempelmann marsu@cs.tu-berlin.de NeXT ftp-admin >> Why should I tidy my room, when the whole world is in a mess ??? <<
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Current NEXTSTEP EMACS front-end? Message-ID: <SCOTT.93Jul22113434@nic.gac.edu> From: scott@nic.gac.edu (Scott Hess) Date: 22 Jul 93 11:34:34 References: <CEDMAN.93Jul20202346@golem.uci.edu> <CAIwIL.25F@ripple.uunet> Distribution: world Organization: Is a sign of weakness <CEDMAN.93Jul21152858@golem.uci.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: nic.gac.edu In-reply-to: cedman@golem.ps.uci.edu's message of 21 Jul 93 22:29:11 GMT In article <CEDMAN.93Jul21152858@golem.uci.edu>, cedman@golem.ps.uci.edu (Carl Edman) writes: >In article <CAIwIL.25F@ripple.uunet>, > df@watershed.com (Dirk P. Fromhein) writes: > Why not do it anyway... :-) No really, I'm sure that many other > people would be interested... I have a feeling that it would > not be all that much work once the core functionality was > defined. Much of the code could be swiped from Emacs 3.0. > >Well, yes, a fully NeXTstep compatible version of Emacs 19 would >be quite beautiful. Still porting Emacs 19 right would be a >considerable task even for programmers who know Emacs, X windows >_and_ NeXTstep very well. But add having to fight RMS and the FSF >every step of the way and you have a task which I doubt anybody >will do who is not paid for it. And given the GPV nobody is going >to get paid for doing it (unless, possibly NeXT themselves decides >to do it). Why not do like Cygnus did for the port of GCC to Solaris? I don't know how it went in the end, but what they were doing was basically "panhandling" for something like 100 companies to sign up and pay a couple thousand dollars, which was then used to bankroll development for the project. Since the Solaris C compiler was going to be a couple thousand dollars, it was a good investment. And Cygnus was _not_ "selling" GCC, they were developing the port, and they needed the money to bankroll it. Looking at how many people appear to be willing to contribute money to such an effort, and my own experience with the NeXT market's willingness to support skunkworks projects, you might just be able to pull it off. You won't make any money on it, but you should be able to pull enough to at least make it worth spending the time screwing around with support issues like porting to future versions of emacs. Heck, even I would probably pony up. And I'm the type of person who uses emacs only a couple times a week for quick and dirty jobs that I don't want to mess with edit for (for instance, editing /etc files while su'd root), and even then I fallback to vi as often as not. Later,
From: cedman@golem.ps.uci.edu (Carl Edman) Subject: Re: Current NEXTSTEP EMACS front-end? Message-ID: <CEDMAN.93Jul22100457@golem.uci.edu> In-reply-to: marcus@ursula.ee.pdx.edu's message of 21 Jul 93 14:55:19 GMT Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software References: <1993Jul20.162205.6813@cs.yale.edu> <CAHrn6.LH@ripple.uunet> <CEDMAN.93Jul20202346@golem.uci.edu> <22ipth$f4d@ursula.ee.pdx.edu> <CEDMAN.93Jul21091137@golem.uci.edu> <22l6jn$1jp@ursula.ee.pdx.edu> Date: 22 Jul 93 17:05:08 GMT In article <22l6jn$1jp@ursula.ee.pdx.edu> marcus@ursula.ee.pdx.edu (Marcus Daniels) writes: cedman@golem.ps.uci.edu (Carl Edman) writes: > >Not only you. > How much? What would you use it for? >The question is moot. It is impossible to write a fully integrated >NeXTstep interface for emacs and to sell it without violating the GNU >Public Virus. As for what one would GNU Emacs for that's not a moot >question. That's a silly question. No it isn't, the FSF raises funds to develop software. I was simply suggesting doing the same thing. You can sell GPL'ed software. From Emacs19 GPL, `COPYING'. For example, if you distribute copies of such a program, whether gratis or for a fee, you must give the recipients all the rights that you have. You must make sure that they, too, receive or can get the source code. And you must show them these terms so they know their rights. Exactly. If anybody in the world is allowed to freely copy the program, it is virtually impossible to sell it as the FSF itself found out when it tried to make money by selling tapes of their software even at a relatively modest price. In any case that is not the point. Several people (including myself) were perfectly willing to work on a NeXTstep port for free and would do so if RMS wasn't so extremely and deliberately rudely uncooperative. > RMS has expressed interest in continuing to improve the event handling > mechanisms to be more generic; specifically, to use the Xt/Lucid model. > People interested in a NS port should be helping with those > efforts. >People interested in cooperating with RMS on any matter even those in >his or the FSFs best interest should be prepared for a generous >quantity of abuse. As been said many times, the FSF has socio-politcal goals. If one tries to discount these goals, developing products which neglect or damage this goal, it isn't suprising you might not be treated nicely. Nobody is trying to discount those goals. Many people prefer to distribute their code freely without legal encumbrance and hence find themselves incapable of using much of the GNU code and tools in their own projects. But if the price for a NeXTstep Emacs 19 is that my code will be restricted under the GPV, I'd be willing to pay it. The problem is RMS character, not some ideological differences. > If anyone has ideas on what advantages Emacs19 would offer in > the NEXTSTEP environment, please post! >Emacs19 can be programmed to do anything and to do whatever it does >the way I like it to be done. There are literarily thousands of free >emacs lisp programs for every conceivable purpose available now. Edit >is a "dumb" editor. If you have Emacs all it is good for is the >occasional RTF file or maybe doing some short edits from the >Projectbuider. For developers who mostly do NS stuff, `occasional' doesn't go with `RTF'. Maybe not for those who've gone over to use RTF code. But for most of us, 90% of the files we work with are code and that code is in clear text. Emacs works just fine for that. Carl Edman
From: dnw@williams.physics.lsa.umich.edu (David N. Williams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Problem with Edit and TeX Date: 22 Jul 1993 17:37:38 GMT Organization: University of Michigan - College of Literature, Science, and TheArts Message-ID: <22mj93$7bc@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu> References: <1993Jul22.152106.140254@eratu.rz.uni-konstanz.de> In article <1993Jul22.152106.140254@eratu.rz.uni-konstanz.de> frank@spock.physik.uni-konstanz.de (Frank Burgbacher) writes: > Hello > > My problem is, that not all text I enter with "Edit" seem to be visible to TeX. > It happens, that a whole paragraph is missing. I assume that there are some > hidden characters which are not visible in the Edit-window. Normally I can > recover the text by deleting and reinserting of blanks or something like that, > but this takes several runs of TeX to find the place. > > Any idea to avoid this ? It s annoying. > > Thank you > Frank The problem is that Edit doesn't insert newline characters at the end of its autwrapped lines, only at the ends of paragraphs, while TeX has a fixed line buffer size which gets overrun. --David -- David N. Williams Phone: 1-(313)-764-5236 Physics Department Email: dnw@williams.physics.lsa.umich.edu University of Michigan David.N.Williams@um.cc.umich.edu Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1120 DWILLIAMS@umiphys.bitnet
From: mosscrp@next1.geog.umanitoba.ca (David R. Mosscrop) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXT interface for tape drives? Message-ID: <CAKvLE.Krs@ccu.umanitoba.ca> Date: 22 Jul 93 18:05:37 GMT Sender: news@ccu.umanitoba.ca Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada Hello; I have some data on an Exabyte tape. I know, and dislike, UNIX tape utilities like dd and tar. Is there a NeXT interface available for these utilies? Free would be good. What ftp site? Thanks David R. Mosscrop Programmer Analyst University of Manitoba
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: patrick@wbar.uta.edu (Patrick Phillips) Subject: Re: Problem with Edit and TeX Message-ID: <1993Jul22.184121.1384@news.uta.edu> Sender: news@news.uta.edu (USENET News System) Organization: University of Texas at Arlington References: <22mj93$7bc@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu> Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1993 18:41:21 GMT In article <22mj93$7bc@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu> dnw@williams.physics.lsa.umich.edu (David N. Williams) writes: > In article <1993Jul22.152106.140254@eratu.rz.uni-konstanz.de> > frank@spock.physik.uni-konstanz.de (Frank Burgbacher) writes: > > Hello > > > > My problem is, that not all text I enter with "Edit" seem to > > be visible to > TeX. > > The problem is that Edit doesn't insert newline characters at the > end of its autowrapped lines, only at the ends of paragraphs, > while TeX has a fixed line buffer size which gets overrun. A quick way around this would probably be to select the offending paragraphs (maybe the whole paper - I haven't checked to see how badly this will munge things up), and process it with the Services->Mail->ReformatText option of TickleServices. It simply breaks lines at the appropriate place. If this doesn't work in general, you could probably easily modify the TickleServices code to not mess up the embedded TeX commands. Gee Scott, I guess I'm finding TickleServices useful, I better register it :-). I use this particular service almost every day. Patrick Phillips University of Texas at Arlington patrick@wbar.uta.edu (NeXTMail) phil@decster.uta.edu
From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Looking for NeXTSTEP hypercard compatible software Message-ID: <69532@mimsy.umd.edu> Date: 22 Jul 93 16:23:53 GMT Sender: news@mimsy.umd.edu Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742 Is there a NeXTSTEP app that can read and execute Hypercard stacks? I seem to remember an announcement but couldnt find it in the csna archives on cs.orst.edu. I am looking to use existing stacks (esp from CDs) and not necessarily to author new ones. I know about Craftman which sounds great but it doesnt sound like it is for this use. (though I could be wrong) Is there another? -- Alex Blakemore alex@cs.umd.edu NeXT mail accepted -------------------------------------------------------------- "Without an engaged and motivated human being at the keyboard, the computer is just another dumb box." William Raspberry
From: ernest@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu (Ernest Prabhakar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Current NEXTSTEP EMACS front-end? - who? Date: 22 Jul 1993 19:39:02 GMT Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena Distribution: world Message-ID: <22mqcmINNav@gap.caltech.edu> References: <22m1ka$4tq@ursula.ee.pdx.edu> It seems we have reached a consensus. While the FSF is not wiling to devote the manpower to support NeXTSTEP ("a propreitary windowing system"), they certainly would distribute such a thing, and probably accept reasonable patches to the existing Emacs to support that. So, if we support RMS with a (mostly) modular fait accompli, I'm sure he'd accept it. Heck, if not, I'm sure somebody at NeXT would be willing to maintain the patch file. The only real question is who is willing to do it. I don't remember anyone volunteering, but is anyone at least persuadable? Sure, the person has to release the source code and allow free distribution, but that doesn't mean he can't take money. After all, I believe RMS' view is that programmers should be supported by the people who want to see the project done (out of the goodness of their hearts). So, any volunteers? Any bidders? Is anyone keeping track of who all promised money? You can put me in for $50 (student). I wonder if we could get ANDI to manage the project. Or should we start the "Port Emacs to NeXSTEP" non-profit corporation to fund it? :-) - Ernie P. -- Ernest N. Prabhakar Caltech High Energy Physics Member, League for Programming Freedom (league@prep.ai.mit.edu) CaJUN President NeXTMail:ernest@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu "...and ourselves, your servants for Jesus sake." - II Cor 4:5b #import <std/disclaimer.h>
From: ernest@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu (Ernest Prabhakar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Current NEXTSTEP EMACS front-end? - who? Date: 22 Jul 1993 19:39:18 GMT Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena Distribution: world Message-ID: <22mqd6INNb1@gap.caltech.edu> References: <22m1ka$4tq@ursula.ee.pdx.edu> It seems we have reached a consensus. While the FSF is not wiling to devote the manpower to support NeXTSTEP ("a propreitary windowing system"), they certainly would distribute such a thing, and probably accept reasonable patches to the existing Emacs to support that. So, if we support RMS with a (mostly) modular fait accompli, I'm sure he'd accept it. Heck, if not, I'm sure somebody at NeXT would be willing to maintain the patch file. The only real question is who is willing to do it. I don't remember anyone volunteering, but is anyone at least persuadable? Sure, the person has to release the source code and allow free distribution, but that doesn't mean he can't take money. After all, I believe RMS' view is that programmers should be supported by the people who want to see the project done (out of the goodness of their hearts). So, any volunteers? Any bidders? Is anyone keeping track of who all promised money? You can put me in for $50 (student). I wonder if we could get ANDI to manage the project. Or should we start the "Port Emacs to NeXSTEP" non-profit corporation to fund it? :-) - Ernie P. -- Ernest N. Prabhakar Caltech High Energy Physics Member, League for Programming Freedom (league@prep.ai.mit.edu) CaJUN President NeXTMail:ernest@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu "...and ourselves, your servants for Jesus sake." - II Cor 4:5b #import <std/disclaimer.h>
From: mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (alex) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: SupraFAX driver for NS 3.0? Message-ID: <88540@ut-emx.uucp> Date: 22 Jul 93 18:01:09 GMT Sender: news@ut-emx.uucp Organization: Klatu Verata Necktie I just bought a SupraFAX v.32bis modem for use with my NeXTcube and I am trying to determine if I need a special fax driver to use with the included Fax software. If I choose either of the existing faxmodem options I can either not handshake or I connect and receive garbage. Is there a Supra specific driver I can get and if so where do I look for it? I cruised cs.orst already but couldn't find anything regarding faxes (except for NXFax). Thanks for the assistance. Also, where can I get an updated FAQ? ---------------------------------- Alex Currier HotLine Technical Support Texas Union MicroCenter, UT Austin ----------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: alastair@farli.otago.ac.nz (Alastair Thomson) Subject: Re: Current NEXTSTEP EMACS front-end? Message-ID: <CAL4B0.8qK@news.otago.ac.nz> Sender: usenet@news.otago.ac.nz (News stuff) Organization: University of Otago References: <22ipth$f4d@ursula.ee.pdx.edu> Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1993 21:13:48 GMT In article <22ipth$f4d@ursula.ee.pdx.edu> writes: [Snip] > interested in hearing how many NS developers would leave Edit for > Emacs. > > At this point my attitude is that Emacs is what makes `other systems' > approximate the integration of NEXTSTEP. > > If anyone has ideas on what advantages Emacs19 would offer in the NEXTSTEP > environment, please post! > I have been using NeXTSTEP for about 8 months now and I love Edit, however, I have also started using emacs on DECstations, after using vi for I don't know how long! I certainly like emacs in an X environment, it makes things usable, I certainly agree there. However it's advantages to NeXTSTEP are very! debatable. The biggest thing I guess it that emacs is far more extensible than Edit currently is. For example, the ability to customise indentation style is great, especially for those of us who hack something other than C, or the interface to RCS it gives. My feeling is that I would prefer Edit to have facilities added similar to emacs, rather than the other way round. For me managing a team of programmers working on a project, the ability to add specific facilities (like RCS/CVS support) to suit us would be great. But then again, an emacs mode in Edit would be even better. Those who haven't found the light of NeXTSTEP yet :-) wouldn't have the hassles of learning Yet Another Editor to work with NeXTSTEP. Alastair -- Alastair Thomson, | Phone +64-3-479-8347 Chief Programmer, | Fax +64-3-479-8529 The Black Albatross Project, | e-mail: University of Otago, | alastair@farli.otago.ac.nz Dunedin, New Zealand
From: lones@lones.mit.edu (Lones A. Smith) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: WARNING: DISK has no RECYCLER --- What to do? Date: 22 Jul 1993 23:15:27 GMT Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology Message-ID: <22n72f$931@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Hi, I just dleted some stuff on a disk of mine, and NeXT chimed back with something like "warning, this disk has no recycler, and so deletion will permanently remove it". Now 1. What did I do wrong to end up with this? 2. How can I create a recycler? -- Lones A. Smith Department of Economics MIT E52-252C Cambridge MA 02139 v-mail: (617) 253-0914
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: wave@pixar.com (Michael B. Johnson) Subject: Re: Current NEXTSTEP EMACS front-end? Message-ID: <1993Jul22.220502.4009@pixar.com> Sender: news@pixar.com (Usenet Newsmaster) Organization: Pixar -- Point Richmond, California References: <1993Jul21.165237.8214@leland.Stanford.EDU> Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1993 22:05:02 GMT In article <1993Jul21.165237.8214@leland.Stanford.EDU> magnus@fisher.Stanford.EDU (Magnus Nordborg) writes: > << good stuff about why emacs is very useful > > Summa summarum, I think Edit has two advantages over emacs -- proper mouse > support and multiple windows. These would go away with Emacs-19. Edit is > of course also easier to use than emacs, but with the proper NeXTstep menu > implementation the need for beginners to ever touch Control or Meta keys > would go away, and it would be possible to work towards mastery :-) > This is interesting, because I think one of the big advantages of emacs is that it only has one window. Robert LaFerla was asking people one night at Expo what emacs was good for that Edit didn't do. Other than random bits of esoterica and inertia (which is important) my reply was the fact that with emacs, I could have a bazillion buffers and switch between them using the keyboard, while with Edit I'd have to mouse around (I think there are command key equivalents for moving windows up and down but not resizing...). Anyway, I'm always splitting my emacs screen in half and fourths and then going back to a single buffer. Guess I'm just a geek... BTW, given that I have Emacs dwritten to be my DefaultOpenApp (i.e., dwrite Workspace DefaultOpenApp Emacs), I can double click in the Workspace and PB and have emacs editing the file, I'm actually quite happy. If I could just figure out how to cut from emacs and paste somewhere else (the converse works fine) I'd be totally stoked... -- --> Michael B. Johnson -- wave@media.mit.edu, wave@pixar.com --> MIT Media Lab -- Computer Graphics & Animation Group --> P*I*X*A*R -- IceMan Group (for the summer)
From: gisli@liapunov.eecs.umich.edu (Gisli Ottarsson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Current NEXTSTEP EMACS front-end? - who? Date: 22 Jul 93 22:43:02 Organization: University of Michigan Distribution: world Message-ID: <GISLI.93Jul22224302@liapunov.eecs.umich.edu> References: <22m1ka$4tq@ursula.ee.pdx.edu> <22mqcmINNav@gap.caltech.edu> In-reply-to: ernest@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu's message of 22 Jul 1993 19:39:02 GMT >>>>> "cedman" == Carl Edman <cedman@golem.ps.uci.edu> writes: cedman> [All the hackers] went to Richard M Stallman of the Free cedman> Software Foundation and offered to write a complete NeXTstep cedman> interface to emacs with all the functionality of the X cedman> window interface. They asked for no support from the FSF. cedman> They offered to donate the code. All they asked was that cedman> the code be included in the official emacs so that they cedman> wouldn't need to write new patches every single time there cedman> was a new release of Emacs 19 which these days happens every cedman> other week and often more frequently than that. Mr Richard cedman> M Stallman with all his natural charm that won him so many cedman> friends gave them his best wishes for a trip to hell. >>>>> "ernest" == Ernest Prabhakar <ernest@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu> writes: ernest> ...While the FSF is not wiling to devote the manpower to ernest> support NeXTSTEP ("a propreitary windowing system"), they ernest> certainly would distribute such a thing, and probably accept ernest> reasonable patches to the existing Emacs to support that. ernest> So, if we support RMS with a (mostly) modular fait accompli, ernest> I'm sure he'd accept it ... The only real question is who is ernest> willing to do it. I don't remember anyone volunteering, but ernest> is anyone at least persuadable? Did I miss something? As presented by cedman it certainly sounded like volunteering. And if RMS's "bon voyage" was his way of accepting he would have fooled me. Gisli -- ............................................................................... Gisli Ottarsson Delenda est Carthago. University of Michigan gisli@engin.umich.edu ...............................................................................
From: gisli@liapunov.eecs.umich.edu (Gisli Ottarsson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Current NEXTSTEP EMACS front-end? Date: 22 Jul 93 23:15:05 Organization: University of Michigan Message-ID: <GISLI.93Jul22231505@liapunov.eecs.umich.edu> References: <22ipth$f4d@ursula.ee.pdx.edu> <CAL4B0.8qK@news.otago.ac.nz> In-reply-to: alastair@farli.otago.ac.nz's message of Thu, 22 Jul 1993 21:13:48 GMT >>>>> "AT" == Alastair Thomson <alastair@farli.otago.ac.nz> writes: AT> [emacs'] advantages to NeXTSTEP are very! debatable. what!? AT> The biggest thing I guess it that emacs is far more extensible AT> than Edit currently is. For example, the ability to customise AT> indentation style is great, especially for those of us who hack AT> something other than C, or the interface to RCS it gives. Customization of indentation style is not the first example that springs to mind when explaining the power of emacs. AT> My feeling is that I would prefer Edit to have facilities added AT> similar to emacs, rather than the other way round ... But then AT> again, an emacs mode in Edit would be even better. How about running the whole thing in a UNIX emulator on DOS !-) AT> Those who haven't found the light of NeXTSTEP yet :-) wouldn't AT> have the hassles of learning Yet Another Editor to work with AT> NeXTSTEP. I think the novice users of emacs (admitted or otherwise) should investigate this divine editor before promoting Edit.app as any kind of substitute. Gisli -- ............................................................................... Gisli Ottarsson Delenda est Carthago. University of Michigan gisli@engin.umich.edu ...............................................................................
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software From: root@pawpaw.mitre.org (Operator) Subject: sendmail.cf woes Message-ID: <1993Jul22.181808.29653@linus.mitre.org> Sender: news@linus.mitre.org (News Service) Organization: The MITRE Corporation Distribution: usa Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1993 18:18:08 GMT I am having a problem making sendmail work properly with our network. Our corporation's network is configured so that mail sent to user@mitre.org (mitre.org = domain) will get forwarded, using a database of names and addresses, to the person's prefered mail box. For example, mail sent to jblue@mitre.org gets forwarded to jblue@ocotillo.mitre.org. Also, we have a central mailhost (Sun server), mwunix.mitre.org. mwunix also handles most of the mail to user@mitre.org. The NeXTs, which are a subset of the corporate network, also have a local mailhost. This mailhost, pawpaw.mitre.org, only handles NeXT mail, and forwards everything else to mwunix. The problem is that the NeXT's sendmail.cf interprets (using last rule in rule set S6) mail to user@mitre.org to be mail to user@LOCAL, i.e. a local user. This is usally incorrect. To correct this problem, I added the following line to sendmail.mailhost.cf and to the file used by the clients, sendmail.shardsubsidiary.cf: R$*<@$=m> $1%$m<@$R.LOCAL> mitre.org to mail-relay (This line was added to rule set S6 before the last line.) On the mailhost (pawpaw), it works like a charm - addresses of the form user@mitre.org get forwarded up to mwunix. On the clients, it also works, but the address is changed to read "user%mitre.org@mailhost". If someone tries to reply with that address from a non-NeXT machine, they get an error that "host mailhost unknown". Any suggestions on how to correct this problem? Thank you, Jason D. Blue jblue@mitre.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: gvh@metrosoft.com (Gordon Van Huizen) Subject: MetroSuction 1.1 Message-ID: <1993Jul23.083530.2993@metrosoft.com> Sender: gvh@metrosoft.com Organization: Metrosoft Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1993 08:35:30 GMT Our latest press release in comp.sys.next.announce claims that the new 1.1 version of MetroSuction is on both sonata.cc.purdue.edu and cs.orst.edu. Due to repeated problems uploading to Purdue (which looked suspiciously like a disk full problem - it kept stopping at the same spot), it is currently only available at cs.orst.edu. We apologize for the inconvenience, and will continue to try to upload it to Purdue. If you have MetroSuction 1.0, we strongly urge you to grab 1.1. If you haven't tried MetroSuction, and you have some fat binaries to deal with, why not try it? It's completely freeware, so what do you have to lose? :-) Regards, Gordon -- Gordon Van Huizen vox: 619.488.9411 fax: 619.488.3045 Metrosoft gvh@metrosoft.com [NeXTmail welcome] "Our ship is coming in, it just isn't black." - MTD 2/93
From: marcus@ursula.ee.pdx.edu (Marcus Daniels) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Current NEXTSTEP EMACS front-end? - who? Date: 23 Jul 1993 02:21:30 -0700 Message-ID: <22oaiq$qaq@ursula.ee.pdx.edu> References: <22m1ka$4tq@ursula.ee.pdx.edu> <22mqcmINNav@gap.caltech.edu> ernest@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu (Ernest Prabhakar) writes: >It seems we have reached a consensus. While the FSF is not wiling to >devote the manpower to support NeXTSTEP ("a propreitary windowing >system"), --- >they certainly would distribute such a thing, and probably >accept reasonable patches to the existing Emacs to support that. This is not clear. >So, if we support RMS with a (mostly) modular fait accompli, I'm sure he'd >accept it. Heck, if not, I'm sure somebody at NeXT would be willing to >maintain the patch file. The FSF's relationship with Lucid may not be cosy, but the fact that people were clamoring for Lucid features did seem to warm them/rms up. As for NeXT, hey Unix users are just propeller heads, right? ;-) >The only real question is who is willing to do it. I don't remember >anyone volunteering, but is anyone at least persuadable? >Sure, the person has to release the source code and allow free >distribution, but that doesn't mean he can't take money. After all, I >believe RMS' view is that programmers should be supported by the people >who want to see the project done (out of the goodness of their hearts). Much of the hard work would be architectural work on Emacs19 (or Lucid?) and have no return value to NeXT users. That might be best left for volunteers (me included) until there was confidence that proceeding was practical. Perhaps, though, there are individuals (like Carl?) who have broad enough experience to more efficently take on the project themselves. It might also be that one person, who didn't have really broad experience, could do most of the work, but draw on other individuals to review and do re-writing. As for raising money, well, Cygnus may do well raising money (from companies) for compilers... But Emacs seems a little more frivolous -- but I know little of these matters. >So, any volunteers? Any bidders? Is anyone keeping track of who all >promised money? You can put me in for $50 (student). I wonder if we >could get ANDI to manage the project. Or should we start the "Port >Emacs to NeXSTEP" non-profit corporation to fund it? :-) Yes, who can do what when and for how much? I'd be willing to donate a big chunk of time to the project. As a product, a fully integrated NS emacs19 is several hundred $$ (to me anyway). I have two real years of NS programming experience. I know elisp, and can work with Emacs code (C & elisp). No real X programming experience, though. By August or September I could plan on devoting time to the project regularly. I once ask a couple of members of the Epoch development team about a NEXTSTEP project they attempted. Apparently a dismal failure, but reasons given (e.g. the claim that it was possible to develop apps without IB) made it sound like a somewhat hasty/limited attempt. P.S. as for my whining about using Edit because Emacs lacks RTF, hey, what an amusing elisp project that might be.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: frank@spock.physik.uni-konstanz.de (Frank Burgbacher) Subject: Re: Problem with Edit and TeX Message-ID: <1993Jul23.091409.143689@eratu.rz.uni-konstanz.de> Keywords: CR,Edit,TeX Sender: usenet@eratu.rz.uni-konstanz.de Organization: Uni Konstanz References: <22mj93$7bc@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu> Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1993 09:14:09 GMT In article <22mj93$7bc@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu> dnw@williams.physics.lsa.umich.edu (David N. Williams) writes: > In article <1993Jul22.152106.140254@eratu.rz.uni-konstanz.de> > frank@spock.physik.uni-konstanz.de (Frank Burgbacher) writes: > > Hello > > > > My problem is, that not all text I enter with "Edit" seem to be visible to > TeX. > > It happens, that a whole paragraph is missing. I assume that there are some > > hidden characters which are not visible in the Edit-window. Normally I can > > recover the text by deleting and reinserting of blanks or something like > that, > > but this takes several runs of TeX to find the place. > > > > Any idea to avoid this ? It s annoying. > > > > Thank you > > Frank > > The problem is that Edit doesn't insert newline characters at the end of its > autwrapped lines, only at the ends of paragraphs, while TeX has a fixed line > buffer size which gets overrun. > > --David > > -- > David N. Williams Phone: 1-(313)-764-5236 > Physics Department Email: dnw@williams.physics.lsa.umich.edu > University of Michigan David.N.Williams@um.cc.umich.edu > Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1120 DWILLIAMS@umiphys.bitnet After I read some messages I checked the lenght of the lines in which the problem occurs. Now I think it is not the problem. The problem is produced by CR charcters I do not know where they come from. I constructed the following TeX-File abc efg \bye In the first line, between c and e I inserted a 0D with a hex-editor 61 62 63 0D 65 66 67 0A 5C 62 79 65 ! and I reproduced the effect. Now the question: How do these CR's come into with Edit (I do not put them in through a hex-editor ;-) )? Frank
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bruce@TotSysSoft.com (Bruce Gingery) Subject: Re: DialUp-IP for 3.1 (black) Message-ID: <1993Jul23.055048.1236@ToTSySSoft.com> Keywords: SLIP, Dialup, 3.1 Sender: news@ToTSySSoft.com Organization: Total System Software References: <136989@netnews.upenn.edu> Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1993 05:50:48 GMT In article <136989@netnews.upenn.edu> anstine@uniblab.sas.upenn.edu (David Anstine) writes: -> Is this available yet? -> -> -dave -> -> -------------------------------------------- -> David Anstine -> NeXT Support Specialist -> University of Pennsylvania -> (215)573-3285 -> anstine@uniblab.sas.upenn.edu DialUp IP [920207] from Louis Mamatkos seems to work as well under 3.1 (Black) as it did on 2.1 and 3.0 -- Remote mounts, nntp, tcp-mail... Bruce Gingery
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bnocker@cosy.sbg.ac.at (Bernhard Nocker) Subject: Re: Problem with Edit and TeX Message-ID: <CAM871.MLG@cosy.sbg.ac.at> Sender: news@cosy.sbg.ac.at Organization: University of Salzburg / Austria References: <1993Jul23.091409.143689@eratu.rz.uni-konstanz.de> Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1993 11:35:25 GMT In article <1993Jul23.091409.143689@eratu.rz.uni-konstanz.de> frank@spock.physik.uni-konstanz.de (Frank Burgbacher) writes: > > Now the question: How do these CR's come into with Edit (I do not put them in > through a hex-editor ;-) )? > > Frank Do you use TeX both on NeXT and PC? Do you share files with DOS? Do you edit TeX files with DOS editors? Do you save that files on DOS disks? Some of the above mentioned items may cause that effect you worry about. Bernhard -- Bernhard Nocker University of Salzburg's Department of Computing Studies Jakob-Haringerstr. 5 5020 Salzburg Austria, Europe Tel: +43-662-8044/6316 bnocker@cosy.sbg.ac.at Fax: +43-662-8044/6316 or +43-662-8044/611
From: cahalan@clouds.gsfc.nasa.gov (Robert F. Cahalan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Problem with Edit and TeX Date: 23 Jul 1993 12:43:44 GMT Organization: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center -- InterNetNews site Distribution: world Message-ID: <22ome0$85n@skates.gsfc.nasa.gov> References: <CAM871.MLG@cosy.sbg.ac.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In article <CAM871.MLG@cosy.sbg.ac.at> bnocker@cosy.sbg.ac.at (Bernhard Nocker) writes: > In article <1993Jul23.091409.143689@eratu.rz.uni-konstanz.de> > frank@spock.physik.uni-konstanz.de (Frank Burgbacher) writes: > > > > Now the question: How do these CR's come into with Edit (I do not put them in > > through a hex-editor ;-) )? > > > > Frank > > Do you use TeX both on NeXT and PC? Do you share files with DOS? Do you edit > TeX files with DOS editors? Do you save that files on DOS disks? > > Some of the above mentioned items may cause that effect you worry about. > > Bernhard > -- > Bernhard Nocker > University of Salzburg's Department of Computing Studies > Jakob-Haringerstr. 5 5020 Salzburg Austria, Europe > Tel: +43-662-8044/6316 bnocker@cosy.sbg.ac.at > Fax: +43-662-8044/6316 or +43-662-8044/611 I don't know about Frank, but I don't do any of those things, and I have the exact same problem that Frank describes. That is, I create some TeX with Edit, TeX it (using TeXMenu in my case) and look at it with TeXView, and find gaps. Things are missing in the dvi file that appear fine when "Editing" the tex file. The solution is to delete the (apparent) 'space' at the start of the gap, and retype it. Then everything's fine. The 'space', of course, is really some unprintable (not a CR). To rephrase Frank's question : How do these unprintable's get into the tex file? According to dnw@williams.physics.lsa.umich.edu (David N. Williams): > The problem is that Edit doesn't insert newline characters at the end of > its autwrapped lines, only at the ends of paragraphs, while TeX has a > fixed line buffer size which gets overrun. Does this explain it? Depends on what TeX does when its line buffer gets overrun? Anyone know? -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ .Dr. Robert F. Cahalan (Bob)...#..Laboratory for Atmospheres...... .cahalan@clouds.gsfc.nasa.gov..#..NASA-Goddard Space Flight Center .*** NeXTMail accepted ***.....#..Greenbelt, MD 20771............. .FAX: (301) 286-1627...........#..voice: (301) 286-4276........... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: FTP Sites w/Intel Software Date: 23 Jul 1993 13:47:44 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL Distribution: world Message-ID: <22oq60$eem@news.acns.nwu.edu> I've had trouble finding NS/intel software among the FTP sites around the country. In particular I'm looking for SLIP, Emacs, kermit and some graphics freeware/shareware. I've been using the Black hardware to load up floppies at my office only to come home to find the images are not FAT. With most FTP sites its hard to tell whats new/old, especially while running Gator+. Anyone have a list of goodies and sites they would like to share. Thanks -- Jerry S. Weiss j-weiss@nwu.edu Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois %SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jpw@sansfoy.lib.virginia.edu (John Price-Wilkin) Subject: NeXT Mail.app won't start Message-ID: <CAMEDs.BK0@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU Organization: University of Virginia Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1993 13:49:02 GMT Very suddenly, after vm grew beyond all bounds, my Mail.app won't start anymore. I can send mail and receive it from the command line, but a double-click on the icon results in it returning quickly to a closed state. Anyone have experience with this? John Price-Wilkin jpw@virginia.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: tacchi@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Mark G. Tacchi) Subject: Re: WARNING: DISK has no RECYCLER --- What to do? Message-ID: <CAMF4B.9y8@ccu.umanitoba.ca> Sender: news@ccu.umanitoba.ca Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada References: <22n72f$931@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1993 14:04:58 GMT In <22n72f$931@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> lones@lones.mit.edu (Lones A. Smith) writes: >Hi, >I just dleted some stuff on a disk of mine, and NeXT chimed back with something >like "warning, this disk has no recycler, and so deletion will permanently >remove it". Now >1. What did I do wrong to end up with this? >2. How can I create a recycler? >-- Try the following on the disk that has the problems: localhost# mkdir .NextTrash localhost# chown root.wheel .NextTrash localhost# chmod 1777 .NextTrash localhost# ls -ldg .NextTrash drwxrwxrwt 19 root wheel 1024 Sep 30 10:42 .NextTrash/ Then reboot. -Mark -- Mark G. Tacchi tacchi@ccu.umanitoba.ca "Medicine will cure death and government will repeal taxes before Steve will fail." -G.Kawasaki
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: debaud@cc.gatech.edu (Jean-Marc Debaud) Subject: NeXT/i and connection to NOVELL Message-ID: <1993Jul23.143649.366@cc.gatech.edu> Sender: news@cc.gatech.edu Organization: Georgia Tech College of Computing Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1993 14:36:49 GMT Can someone on the net explain to me how I can connect my NeXT to a NOVELL server ? I have configured the SNC elite 16 card and the machine recognizes it well. I have only that NeXT on the net and I have left the installation software to configure it. What should I input in the Netinfo SimpleNetwork NFSnetwork + other programs relevant to get it to talk to netware ? (Note the netwaremanager was run and netware was enabled) Thanks ! JM debaud@cc.gatech.edu
From: disc@vector.intercon.com (David Casti) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.unix.admin Subject: Packet dumping from a NeXT Date: 23 Jul 1993 18:03:29 GMT Organization: InterCon Systems Corporation, Herndon, VA, USA Message-ID: <22p95h$bcv@news.intercon.com> Hi, I'm trying to capture packets on my NeXT, but I can't get tcpdump to compile. Has anyone successfully captured packets from a NeXT? What did it take? Thanks, David. ============================================================================= David Casti Internet: disc@vector.intercon.com Technical Support Engineer InterCon Systems Corporation ============================================================================= No official InterCon correspondence will ever have vector.intercon.com as the return address. =============================================================================
From: mikew@pencom.com (Michael E. Wren) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,alt.fan.bill-gates Subject: Re: From your friends at UNIXWorld Message-ID: <1993Jul23.144123.18893@pencom.com> Date: 23 Jul 93 14:41:23 GMT References: <1993Jul16.210211.21253@Princeton.EDU> Sender: usenet@pencom.com (Usenet Pseudo User) Distribution: usa Organization: Pencom Software In article <1993Jul16.210211.21253@Princeton.EDU> of next.sys.next.advocacy gpmenos@firestone.Princeton.EDU (Gerard Philippe Menos) writes: > From the Industry News section of UNIXWorld (August, 1993, page 20): > > [Steve Jobs] while giving his keynote address at Nextworld Expo, > where he launched the reborn software company, > ran into some technical glitches. > While he talked, an overflow crowd watched him on > closed-circuit television in three adjoining rooms.Twenty > minutes into his speech, the sound system in those > rooms died. Then an eerie rumbling was heard outside > the auditorium. > 'We want sound! We want sound!" The mob roared. > (Shouldn't they have been yelling, "We want applica- > tions!"?) Jobs looked confused, and then let the > Nextophiles into the packed auditorium. According to Steve Jobs, NeXT is #3 in the number of GUI apps, after Windows and the Mac. NextStep will also run: - Mainframe apps as a terminal or client/server. - Unix character apps. With 3rd party add-ons: - X Windows apps. - DOS/Windows apps (native mode on 486 machines). - Most Mac apps. After you have about a dozen different wordprocessors/DTP apps, how many more do you need? Yes, it is true that there aren't any applications for running a video store or auto repair shop, but who is going to buy NextStep to do that anyway? (There is software however, for running a shipping terminal.) Also there is a lack of games and elementary education software, compared to the PC. And compared to Sun, there aren't many science and engineering programs. THE BOTTOM LINE IS: People are buying NextStep primarily as the client in client/server mission-critical custom apps. They buy it because there is a generally agreed upon, well documented 5 to 1 to 10 to 1 productivity gain in developing software. The market is big enough and broad enough for several players. Not everyone is going to be a Microsoft. And isn't that the way it should be!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: obrooks@worf.hssc.ksc.nasa.gov (Oscar Brooks) Subject: CD Audio - Problem Message-ID: <1993Jul23.181239.4790@dale.ksc.nasa.gov> Keywords: CD Audio CDPlayer Sender: news@dale.ksc.nasa.gov Organization: NASA Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1993 18:12:39 GMT We have a small network of NeXT machines (8) each equiped with CD-ROMs from NeXT. On one of the machines everytime certain users place a music CD in the drive we get the following error in the console window: sd3 (6,0): ERROR op:0x28 sd_state:4 scsi status:0x0 cdaudio.util: CANNOT OPEN CDPlayer The Last line is the difference from normal operation. We get the preceeding lines of error during normal operation. I have checked permissions on the device and CDPlayer.app. Sticky bit is set on CDPlayer.app and the device is readable by everyone. The thing that is puzzling is that it only happens to certian user ids: 22, 33, etc. Everyone else has no problem with the same CD. Can anyone help??? Please!!! O ------------------------------------------------ Oscar Brooks Mail Code: DL-DSD-24 Kennedy Space Center, Fla. 32899 Internet: obrooks@worf.hssc.ksc.nasa.gov
From: sowa@amdew.llnl.gov (Erik C. Sowa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Current NEXTSTEP EMACS front-end? Date: 23 Jul 1993 19:27:22 GMT Organization: LLNL Chemistry and Materials Science Message-ID: <SOWA.93Jul23122722@amdew.llnl.gov> References: <1993Jul21.165237.8214@leland.Stanford.EDU> <1993Jul22.220502.4009@pixar.com> In-reply-to: wave@pixar.com's message of Thu, 22 Jul 1993 22:05:02 GMT >>>>> "Michael" == Michael B. Johnson <wave@pixar.com> writes: Michael> If I could just figure out how to cut from emacs and paste Michael> somewhere else (the converse works fine) I'd be totally stoked... With the Emacs 3.0 front end, you can do this in the following manner: 1) left click at start of selection (set point) 2) right click at end of selection (set mark) alternatively, drag from start to end 3) Edit/Copy (Command-C or from menu) to put region on pasteboard Edit/Cut also works 4) Go to the other app and Paste away... Check Reference/Mouse in the Help Panel for more goodies... -- erik sowa (sowa@amdew.llnl.gov)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sysadmin From: kent@infoserv.com Subject: Flatbed Scanners Message-ID: <CAMFnt.1qD@infoserv.com> Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard) Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting Distribution: na Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1993 14:16:41 GMT What do I need to do to get a SCSI flatbed scanner to work on my cube? I can get an Abaton 300/S16 or a 300/GS real cheap and I'd like to know what I have to do to get it to work? I know Abaton is no more, it was adivision of Everex but at the price I'm the scanner I don't care. Kent -- /* K.L. Shephard Consulting is my company. Infoserv only delivers my mail. */ /* Please direct mail to kent@infoserv.com other adresses may not work. */
From: sowa@amdew.llnl.gov (Erik C. Sowa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Current NEXTSTEP EMACS front-end? Date: 23 Jul 1993 19:32:56 GMT Organization: LLNL Chemistry and Materials Science Message-ID: <SOWA.93Jul23123256@amdew.llnl.gov> References: <1993Jul21.165237.8214@leland.Stanford.EDU> <1993Jul22.220502.4009@pixar.com> <SOWA.93Jul23122722@amdew.llnl.gov> In-reply-to: sowa@amdew.llnl.gov's message of 23 Jul 1993 19:27:22 GMT >>>>> "Michael" == Michael B. Johnson <wave@pixar.com> writes: Michael> If I could just figure out how to cut from emacs and paste Michael> somewhere else (the converse works fine) I'd be totally stoked... >>>>> "Erik" == Erik C. Sowa <sowa@amdew.llnl.gov> writes: Erik> With the Emacs 3.0 front end, you can do this in the following manner: and I listed some mouse tricks. But looking back on Michael's original post I see he wants to avoid the mouse. It works from the keyboard just fine, too. Set the point in the normal emacs manner, move the cursor to the other end of the desired chunk, and Command-C to put in on the pasteboard. It just works... -- erik sowa (sowa@amdew.llnl.gov)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bhill@physics.ucla.edu (Brian Hill) Subject: Re: bash? In-Reply-To: marsu@palumbia.in-berlin.de's message of 21 Jul 93 21:41:33 GMT Message-ID: <BHILL.93Jul23123006@spike.physics.ucla.edu> Sender: usenet@physics.ucla.edu Organization: Dept. of Physics, UCLA References: <22j9ap$m66@hahn.informatik.hu-berlin.de> <1993Jul21.132842.4546@news.lrz-muenchen.de> <1993Jul21.214133.11589@palumbia.in-berlin.de> Date: 23 Jul 93 12:30:06 >> Has anybody managed to build the Bourne Againe Shell? I tried to do The following is from Chet Ramey, Case Western Reserve University (chet@po.CWRU.Edu): Add -DHAVE_RESOURCE to SYSDEP_CFLAGS in the appropriate machines.h entry. It worked for me under NS 3.1 black. --Brian Hill
From: work@dannug.dk (Michael Hallin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXT interface for tape drives? Date: 23 Jul 1993 18:47:17 GMT Organization: Danish NeXT User Group Message-ID: <22pbnl$1b2@localhost.dk> References: <CAKvLE.Krs@ccu.umanitoba.ca> Hi David, If you get some useable answers, please forward them me Thnx Michael --- _____________________________________________ Michael Hallin Copenhagen, Denmark NeXTMail: work@dannug.dk NonNeXTMail: mh.xeroxvang@rxdk.xerox.com Voice: Int + 45 43 53 34 33 Fax: Int + 45 43 53 34 33 _____________________________________________ In article <CAKvLE.Krs@ccu.umanitoba.ca> mosscrp@next1.geog.umanitoba.ca (David R. Mosscrop) writes: >>>Hello; >>>I have some data on an Exabyte tape. >>>I know, and dislike, UNIX tape utilities like dd and tar. >>>Is there a NeXT interface available for these utilies? >>>Free would be good. >>>What ftp site? >>>Thanks >>>David R. Mosscrop >>>Programmer Analyst >>>University of Manitoba
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: VisualWorks Sybase driver? Message-ID: <22pf4o$2fj@zippy.Telcom.Arizona.EDU> From: d_mc@mccube.tucson.az.us (Don McCollam) Date: 23 Jul 1993 19:45:28 GMT Distribution: world Organization: University of Arizona Hi. If you own ParcPlace's VisualWorks for NeXT and have an operational Sybase driver, I'd like to hear from you. I'm looking for some guidance and maybe a way to avoid "re-inventing the wheel". [For those who have never heard of VisualWorks: VisualWorks is ParcPlace's implementation of SmallTalk80 with a GUI and development environment. What's nice about it is that it runs on MANY platforms: Unix, OS/2, DOS/Windows and Macintosh. Here at the UofA, were investigating VW's use as a development environment for producing client applications.] Don McCollam citdem@happy.rc.Arizona.EDU
From: ctm@ardi.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,alt.fan.bill-gates Subject: Re: From your friends at UNIXWorld Message-ID: <CAn1qn.BM7@cobra.cs.unm.edu> Date: 23 Jul 93 22:13:38 GMT Article-I.D.: cobra.CAn1qn.BM7 References: <1993Jul16.210211.21253@Princeton.EDU> <1993Jul23.144123.18893@pencom.com> Sender: news@cobra.cs.unm.edu Distribution: usa Organization: ARDI In article <1993Jul23.144123.18893@pencom.com> mikew@pencom.com (Michael E. Wren) writes: ... > >NextStep will also run: >- Mainframe apps as a terminal or client/server. >- Unix character apps. > >With 3rd party add-ons: >- X Windows apps. >- DOS/Windows apps (native mode on 486 machines). >- Most Mac apps. "Most Mac apps" is very misleading. If you were to take every Macintosh application that has ever been written and compare the number of them that run under Executor 1.2.2f (available via anonymous ftp from ftp.cs.unm.edu: pub/ardi/Executor_122f.tar), it might actually turn out that > 50% of them run, *but* that's only because the majority of applications have been written by students and hackers, using only "Inside Macintosh" and Tech Notes for their understanding of the Macintosh Operating System. When it comes to the "big-ticket" applications, *most* of them do not currently run under Executor. Of the big ticket applications, we mainly sell to people who want to use Word 4.0E and greater (current is 5.1), Excel 3.0a and greater (currerent is 4.0), Quicken 3.0 (we're fixing some bugs related to 4.0), or Managing Your Money 4.0. We also have a variety of games running including Lemmings, Prince of Persia, A Train, Where in Time is Carmen Sandiego and Sim Ant. The trouble is that for legal reasons and for performance considerations we have rewritten the Macintosh Operating System from scratch. That's a major reason why we can Macintos applications on i386 and i486 machines and Apple can't. HOWEVER, applications that are written by large software houses frequently make use of information about the Macintosh Operating System that is not known to the outside world at large. This means that even if a large program works 80% - 95% of the way, it still can take us a while to work final kinks out. Our goal was to have had all the big-ticket applications supported by now, but that goal was temporarily pushed aside so that we can release a version of Executor for NEXTSTEP/Intel and so we can release a version for DOS. The former is necessary to satisfy our current customer base, the latter is necessary because we need a cash cow. The good news is it looks like we'll see tremendous revenues from our DOS product. This will allow us to hire more engineers (it's been pretty sparse here since mid March) and get everything working. The still better news is that we're putting experimental versions of Executor out on ftp.cs.unm.edu for our current customers and for potential customers to try. Much demoware/shareware/courseware runs under Executor without trouble (the MacBreadboard Demo that we include with Executor is a real cool program!). Feel free to pick up a copy and test it out. It's on sale until the end of August, so it makes sense to check it out at least once by then. I wish my explanation didn't have to be so long, but Executor is one of, if not the most, complicated NEXTSTEP applications yet written. Unlike Soft-PC which gets their operating system from Microsoft, Executor contains an efficient synthetic CPU *and* a total rewrite of a non-trivial operating system. We aspire to the goal of "it just works", but it's not *yet* quite so simple. If you compare our work to our competitors, you'll see that we're the only company that has a software Macintosh emulator that works on PCs. If you're familiar with the works of our competitors, you'll realize that they are unlikely to have a PC based Mac emulator for a long time, if ever. --Cliff ctm@ardi.com
From: deborah@cs.ucsd.edu (Deborah K. Swanberg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: X Windows on NeXT Summary Message-ID: <52337@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> Date: 22 Jul 93 23:32:56 GMT Sender: news@sdcc12.ucsd.edu Organization: CSE Dept., U.C. San Diego A few weeks ago, I requested information regarding programs/products to run X Windows on my NeXT. Following is a summary of replies. This is all I know, so I can't answer any further questions. Also, I am merely summarizing the material I received, so I cannot vouch for it's accuracy. Perhaps someone could store this as an FAQ. Good Luck, Deborah Swanberg COMMERCIAL X CLIENTS Demos and info available via anonymous ftp on cs.orst.edu in /pub/next/submissions and /pub/next/XNeXT. eXodus Aproximate cost: $239 Manufacturer: White Pine Software X11R5 Simultaneously runs, side by side NeXTSTEP Complete color support fo all NeXT monitors Compatible with NeXTSTEP 3.0 Cub'X-Window Available for NeXTSTEP 486, OSF Motif 1.2 Full development environment available Full technical support in the US and Europe Interactive Technology, Inc For a demo version of CubX-Window: USA: (503) 644-0111 iti@inttech.com Europe: (33)-(1) 4708 7440 info@cubx.com One person claimed this is faster than co-Xist co-Xist approximate cost (educational) $170 server only $350 for developers Pencom 9050 Capital of Texas Highway North Austin, Texas 78759 tel (512) 343-6666 or 1-800-pencom4 or (512) 343-1111 fax (512) 343-9650 co-Xist_info@pencom.com info@pencom.com good tech support, rapid, thorough Full range of display options including Accelerated Rootless and Full-Screen Take-Over modes Complete funcionality with application launch panel, context-sensitive help, color support and much more Fast service and support via email, fax and toll-free hotline Expert X/Motif GUI development assistance available Available for NeXTSTEP 3.X on NeXT and Intel '486 platforms. Co-Xist, at least in some versions, allows X windows and NextStep windows to both appear on the screen at once; apparently by putting the X root in a NextStep window; new versions may now exist that make each X window a separate NextStep window. FREEWARE CLIENTS Mouse X Available from: foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu in /pub/X11R5-MouseX.tar.Z sonata.cc.purdue.edu, cs.orst.edu in /pub/next Source patches available as: X11R5-source.patch.tar.Z Needs 70MB of space for full X11R5, 30MB for just users installation takes some work does not work with NS/FIP flipping between NS and X is painful (an all or nothing deal) Mouse-X can coexist with NextStep in that you can switch back and forth, and even cut-and-paste between the two if you use the provided front-end to start it up. However, when X is being displayed, it takes over the whole screen. ****************************************************************************** README to accompany the new X11 R5 Xnext (Mouse-X) server ****************************************************************************** This new version of the public domain "Mouse-X" server is an X11 Release 5 server, and fully supports all the functionality of that release. The X source code was patched up through fix-21, and then modified for the NeXT platform. **** NOTE **** These binary files were compiled using Gnu gcc 2.3.3 on a NeXT running OS 3.0. None of this new release will run under OS 2.1. Sorry. A patch to allow others to compile the complete X tree and the server from the MIT source will be made available in the future. This will allow 2.1 users to compile their own set of binaries. **** Contents of the compressed tarfile: 1) Xnext and Xnext.color These are the two servers, one for running on monochrome machines, and one for color machines. The *same* server is used on Turbo and non-Turbo machines, with the only difference being a flag that is passed to the server via xinit (see below). None of the Mouse-X servers will run on a NextDimension machine. 2) Xfe.app By far the most effective way to run this server is to use the Xfe.app front end which is included. Install this in /LocalApps or ~/Apps. It includes a help window with fairly detailed instructions on how to use it. Running the server from xinit: For those users who wish to run this server from a script or from the command line, remember that if you do so, you cannot escape back to the NeXTstep window without quitting X entirely. The only new feature you must be aware of is the -turbo flag. If you are working on a Turbo machine (color or monochrome), add "-turbo" to the flags you give to xinit. This is done automatically by Xfe (the front end app). My heartiest thanks to those who either blazed the trail before me or who helped with my work: der Mouse (did the original work) Howie Kaye (worked on the front end and server) Paul Poh (did the original R5 color port of the server) Juergen Koller (assisted in getting final bugs out of the server)
From: bkeeley@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Brian Keeley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: CD sampling Message-ID: <52343@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> Date: 23 Jul 93 05:24:12 GMT Sender: news@sdcc12.ucsd.edu Followup-To: poster Howdy. This is a potentially stupid question, but here goes: Can anyone suggest what kind of software and hardware I might use to create sound files using a CompactDisc as the source? I essentially want to do some "sampling". I've seen CD-ROM players hooked up to NeXTs, but they seem to only have two capabilities: 1) read CD-ROM data and 2) *play* CDs through the NeXT speakers (or through the RCA jacks into a stereo system). I want to be able to read the data on a music CD into .snd, .au, or any other NeXT-playable sound file. Is there an obvious way to do this? Please email me... I'll report my findings back here. Thanks, Brian
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: chinacat@netcom.com (J. Petersen) Subject: Pages? Message-ID: <chinacatCAn5BB.n14@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1993 23:30:47 GMT What's the status on Pages? Is it as great as it was rumored to be going to be? How about its availability for black hardware? How much does it cost, are there student discounts, and for how long will it be supported/upgraded? Thanks for any info. -- Jim Petersen chinacat@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: chinacat@netcom.com (J. Petersen) Subject: NextStep 3.0 for black hardware... questions Message-ID: <chinacatCAn5FH.E5@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1993 23:33:17 GMT A few questions: first, generally, how is it? Is it as stable as 2.1? second, what are the details on upgrading? third, more specifically, did the bit about 3.0 being able to read and write to Macintosh disks pan out? Or did that disappear... Thanks for any info: I'm close to purchasing a 3.0 system and what to be sure what I'm getting into. -- Jim Petersen chinacat@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bob@jacobi.uucp (bob) Subject: Re: QuickBase: is interesting? Message-ID: <1993Jul24.004755.18884@cs.yale.edu> Keywords: database, SQL, NeXT, NEXTSTEP Sender: rlm@sss.com Organization: Software Services and Solutions, Inc. References: <rcbaab.743252843@rwa.urc.tue.nl> <1993Jul22.133320.18455@vlsi.polymtl.ca> Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1993 00:47:55 GMT Let me preface this by saying that Software Services and Solutions, Inc., has been using QuickBase-SQL for well over a year, since version 1.9beta. We have worked with SofDesign over this time on improving the product, notably in the area of DBKit interaction (we wrote the DBKit adaptor for QuickBase in our Pacific Northwest Office), and it has matured into a solid, reliable database server and set of related tools that is preferable to servers such as Sybase and Oracle for a wide variety of applications. QuickBase is extremely fast and easy to use. It supports all the features of the DBKit, including image storage, without any limitations (unlike Sybase, which cannot handle images of any reasonable size). DBKit programming with QuickBase is just like DBKit programming with any other relational database, which is to say, relatively easy for many applications. QuickBase also has its own object-based API which allows access to features, such as notification of database changes, that the DBKit cannot represent. SofDesign sells separately a library of objects, the QBTools, that builds on this API to give a range of high level objects (image views, table views, etc...) that take advantage of enterprise-wide notification of data changes and other QuickBase features. This provides an alternative to the DBKit, and these objects can do more than the equivalent objects on the DBKit palette. You can build any sort of relational model in QuickBase, and it supports a wide range of datatypes, including char *, int, long, date, time, blob (arbitrary object or binary data), and others. We use it extensively in a number of products, from both the DBKit interface and the QuickBase object-based API. We have a suite of applications that automate much of the administrative, dispatch, records management, and crime analysis functions for police departments of any size, and we have implemented the relational database schema for this set of cooperating applications in QuickBase, as well as in other relational databases, such as Sybase. QuickBase has no problem with this task, which involves a large number of tables with many complex relationships between them. The fact that QuickBase is about one tenth of the cost of Sybase allows us to package a complete solution incorporating our software and a relational database at prices that are attractive to small departments whose budgets preclude the purchase of a $10,000+ database server. One of our recently announced SS&S CASE Tools, CodeReviewer, uses a QuickBase database (included) to store historical information about projects, source code complexity, object revisions, and compatibility for analysis and to assist in planning and managing object-oriented development efforts. The low cost to developers of QuickBase made it possible for us to include in CodeReviewer functionality only possible with a full relational model for information storage. Flat files or our own indexed files would have been slower and less flexible, and providing a database interface without the option of using an included server would have meant that developers and sites without access to a relational database (which is most developers) would not have full use of the product. QuickBase allows us to provide full functionality to all without boosting the cost of the product prohibitively. Our PunchClock time management application uses QuickBase to store information about projects, individuals, tasks, and time, and it dynamically creates its database structure to best suit the environment in which it is being run. While this is possible with other servers, it is much easier in QuickBase than in Sybase, and QuickBase's low cost makes it possible for use to take full advantage of this and other aspects of the relational model from a low cost application. These are a few of the products and projects for which we have used QuickBase. Overall, I have found it to be a more friendly environment for development and database administration than Sybase, and the end-user applications built on it are as powerful or more powerful than those that can be created with a database server such as Sybase. Robert L. Masterson, Vice President Software Services and Solutions, Inc. rlm@sss.com --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Software Services and Solutions, Inc. Main Office Pacific Northwest Office 94 Murray Street 1222 East Crockett Street Meriden, Connecticut 06450 Seattle, Washington 98102 voice (203) 630-2000 voice (206) 860-9295 fax (203) 630-2020 fax (206) 860-6896 email sss@sss.com sss@pnw.sss.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dave@prim.demon.co.uk (Dave Griffiths) Subject: Edit suggestion Organization: Primitive Software Ltd. Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1993 18:32:38 +0000 Message-ID: <1993Jul23.183238.2064@prim> Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk I wish Edit would follow the following algorithm when a window is closed: If this window was opened as the result of a remote request and no other window has become key since it was opened then deactivate self It's annoying when you're in the Workspace Mangler and you just want to take a quick look at a file in Edit and bam! your screen's full of Edit windows and you have to search for the file viewer again. I'd like it so that closing that Edit window takes you back to the WM. Just a thought. Dave Griffiths
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: kent@infoserv.com Subject: Software for ND Message-ID: <CAKKsH.AD@infoserv.com> Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard) Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting Distribution: na Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1993 14:12:16 GMT What software, public domain or comrecial, is available to do cool stuff on a NeXTDimension? I now have a ND system and want to play around with some video stuff. Is there anything available that will allow you to overlay computer images with the live video, etc? Kent -- /* K.L. Shephard Consulting is my company. Infoserv only delivers my mail. */ /* Please direct mail to kent@infoserv.com other adresses may not work. */
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: louie@TransSys.COM (Louis A. Mamakos) Subject: Re: TransSys SLIP for NS/I? Message-ID: <22rfii$23o@wa3ymh.transsys.com> Sender: usenet@grebyn.com Organization: TransSys, Inc. References: <224moj$ng9@tamsun.tamu.edu> Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1993 14:05:06 GMT In article <224moj$ng9@tamsun.tamu.edu> lusty@lusty.tamu.edu (Lusty Wench) writes: > >I seem to recall seeing a plea for Louis Mamakos to compile a fat >binary of his SLIP package for NeXTstep. Since I can't find it >anywhere, I assume this is not yet available. Work is proceeding on a SLIP/CSLIP package for Intel-based (and Motorola, too) NeXTSTEP systems. It should be available "soon". All attempts at predicting a completion date have been incorrect so far.. This software is more than just a recompilation of the existing software, but a major feature upgrade, which is why its just not a "recompile and ship" situation. From what I've heard so far, the question of the serial drivers would make running SLIP problematic. I'm hoping to be able to get involved in the serial driver beta test, and if possible, distribute that driver along with the new software. -- Louis A. Mamakos TransSys, Inc.
From: jliu@cco.caltech.edu (Jianqiang Liu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Can't play music CD on Apple CD150 Date: 24 Jul 1993 20:45:20 GMT Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena Message-ID: <22s710INNei2@gap.caltech.edu> Summary: none Keywords: CD player Here is what I have done, double click CDPlayer.app. Then it ask me to insert a CD to driver 3(I have total 3 hard disks). After I put in one, the program load o.k. except there are no numbers of tracks displayed. Click 'play' has no response. I have no problems using it for data CD. I am running NS3.1 on NeXT turbo. CD player is Apple 150. Can someone give me some hint? Please reply to : jliu@touch.caltech.edu Thanks!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,alt.fan.bill-gates From: thayne@unislc.slc.unisys.com (Thayne Forbes) Subject: Re: From your friends at UNIXWorld References: <1993Jul16.210211.21253@Princeton.EDU> <1993Jul23.144123.18893@pencom.com> Message-ID: <1993Jul24.165535.3109@unislc.slc.unisys.com> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,alt.fan.bill-gates Organization: HomeVax Distribution: usa Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1993 16:55:35 GMT Michael E. Wren (mikew@pencom.com) wrote: : According to Steve Jobs, NeXT is #3 in the number of GUI apps, after : Windows and the Mac. So he beat out OS/2. Not something I would write home about. : The market is big enough and broad enough for several players. Not : everyone is going to be a Microsoft. And isn't that the way it should be! While I agree that the world is not better because MS has a monopoly on small OS and applications, I will note that I keep buying and using their shit cause it works better than most everything else (Mac excepted). I can't count the number of times I have gotten a new MS package and installed the whole bloody thing and been working in 15 minutes. No reconfiguring, no recompile, no sweat. Conversely, I am trying yet again to get Linux working correctly today. Not up yet.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bff@csn.org (Brendan Forsyth) Subject: Network Access to Oracle DB Message-ID: <CAoyo6.519@csn.org> Sender: news@csn.org (news) Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc. Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1993 23:02:29 GMT We are going to purchase a DG Aviion Server with Oracle as the database engine sometime next year. Does the OracleAdaptor require extra software to connect to the Oracle database on a remote system? Thanks Brendan Reply-To: bff@next.dev.pvh.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: neil@ms.uky.edu (Neil Greene) Subject: Re: Network Access to Oracle DB Message-ID: <CApLA5.Lsw@ms.uky.edu> Organization: Kentucky NeXT User Group, Inc. References: <CAoyo6.519@csn.org> Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1993 07:10:52 GMT bff@csn.org (Brendan Forsyth) writes: >We are going to purchase a DG Aviion Server with Oracle as the database engine >sometime next year. Does the OracleAdaptor require extra software to connect >to the Oracle database on a remote system? No, it sure doesn't. The client side of the sql*net distribution is already bundled under NEXTSTEP. Now, of course your DG server will need to be running sql*net and listening for connections on the appropriate port. Usually this is 1525 by default.
From: haggerty@acf2.nyu.edu (haggerty) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,alt.fan.bill-gates Subject: Re: From your friends at UNIXWorld Date: 25 Jul 1993 07:11:20 GMT Organization: New York University Distribution: usa Message-ID: <22tbmo$ecp@cmcl2.NYU.EDU> References: <1993Jul16.210211.21253@Princeton.EDU> <1993Jul23.144123.18893@pencom.com> <1993Jul24.165535.3109@unislc.slc.unisys.com> thayne@unislc.slc.unisys.com (Thayne Forbes) writes: >Michael E. Wren (mikew@pencom.com) wrote: >: According to Steve Jobs, NeXT is #3 in the number of GUI apps, after >: Windows and the Mac. >So he beat out OS/2. Not something I would write home about. >: The market is big enough and broad enough for several players. Not >: everyone is going to be a Microsoft. And isn't that the way it should be! >While I agree that the world is not better because MS has a monopoly >on small OS and applications, I will note that I keep buying and using >their shit cause it works better than most everything else (Mac excepted). ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >I can't count the number of times I have gotten a new MS package and >installed the whole bloody thing and been working in 15 minutes. No >reconfiguring, no recompile, no sweat. Conversely, I am trying yet >again to get Linux working correctly today. Not up yet. You have got to be kidding (or laying flame bait). Ya tried DOS or Windows as of late (or ever for that matter)?? If these worked better than everything else, you would find my machine on misc.forsale.computers in a New York minute!! Please don't bitch and moan about Linux, it is a BETA OS, if you are not prepared to handle that then don't download it in the first place. If by "a new MS package" you mean something like Word or Excel, then I should damn well hope it works out of the box. It is rare to find a commercial application (such as a word processor, spreadsheet etc.) that does not work out of the box 99% of the time. That is simply a MINIMUM requirement for a commercial application on any platform and from any company. Yes - NS/FIP has bugs, but I think that is to be expected for an operating system that does everything NeXTSTEP can. IMHO, even if you can't get NS/FIP working in 15 minutes, you will find that it is well worth the extra effort once it is up and running. -Bruce (haggerty@acf2.nyu.edu)
From: disc@vector.intercon.com (David Casti) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.unix.admin Subject: Re: Packet dumping from a NeXT Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.unix.admin Date: 25 Jul 1993 14:55:44 GMT Organization: InterCon Systems Corporation, Herndon, VA, USA Message-ID: <22u6tg$224@news.intercon.com> References: <22p95h$bcv@news.intercon.com> I (disc@vector.intercon.com) wrote: : I'm trying to capture packets on my NeXT, but I can't get tcpdump to compile. : Has anyone successfully captured packets from a NeXT? What did it take? So, it turns out this is completely impossible without thorough kernel mods -- not enough datagram buffers in the driver it seems. David.
From: cmaeda+@cs.cmu.edu (Christopher Maeda) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Current NEXTSTEP EMACS front-end? Message-ID: <CAqALL.B2p.1@cs.cmu.edu> Date: 25 Jul 93 16:17:44 GMT References: <CEDMAN.93Jul20202346@golem.uci.edu> <22ipth$f4d@ursula.ee.pdx.edu> <1993Jul21.235259.620446@locus.com> Sender: news@cs.cmu.edu (Usenet News System) Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon In article <1993Jul21.235259.620446@locus.com> geoff@locus.com (Geoff Kuenning) writes: >In article <22ipth$f4d@ursula.ee.pdx.edu> marcus@ursula.ee.pdx.edu >(Marcus Daniels) writes: > >> To include NEXTSTEP support as part of the normal distribution would >> set a big precedent. It would mean the FSF was advocating, in a way, >> a particular proprietary O.S. > >The precedent was set a long time ago. Emacs is loaded with bits >special code so that it can support proprietary OS's and hardware. >Just as one example, I note that the source directory contains header >files for VMS. > >Next excuse, please? I see both sides of this. On the one hand, I use emacs on a daily basis on Next machines and other machines. I would love to have a native nextstep emacs. On the other hand, I see why FSF could care less about nextstep support for emacs. Politics:: Remember that FSF wants to build GNU, a complete operating system from the kernel up. FSF has said that X will be the GNU Window system. Thus they see nextstep support as taking resources away from GNU development efforts. (Even though the development is free, supporting another window system like nextstep will require non-zero resources.) So I think Stallman's reaction was completely reasonable. So the question remains: how can we get a native nextstep emacs. I think the front end approach is a good one, mostly because it is the best breakdown of functionality given the political situation (Welcome to the Real World). It should be possible to figure out the minimal amount of support in emacs that will let it support "other window systems" like nextstep. This new code should somehow clean up the existing X code or else FSF won't pick it up. I agree with previous posters that Lucid Emacs is probably the right place to start from. They've already done a lot of work to clean up the event handling code. A Technical Proposal:: With the political ramblings aside, here's a strawman technical proposal for how to do things. We want to separate emacs into the emacs editor/kernel/interpreter and emacs terminals. Emacs terminals communicate with emacs editors using bytestream sockets (eg TCP sockets). The protocol used should basically map the lucid emacs event handling model onto a byte stream. Then we can write emacs terminals that speak the emacs protocol for both X and Nextep (or even Windows) and communicate with emacs editors running anywhere. How does that sound? -- Chris Maeda, Grad Student and RetroGrouch <cmaeda@cs.cmu.edu> "A unix signature isn't a return address, it's the ASCII equivalent of a black velvet clown painting. It's a rectangle of carets surrounding a quote from a literary giant of weeniedom like Heinlein or Dr. Who."
From: jblevins@uniwa.uwa.edu.au (Jim Blevins) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.text.tex Subject: Fatal format error running NeXTTeX with TeXsis Date: 25 Jul 93 18:51:47 Organization: University of Western Australia Distribution: world Message-ID: <JBLEVINS.93Jul25185147@uniwa.uwa.edu.au> After upgrading from NS 3.0 to 3.1, I reinstalled the extension packages, including NeXTTeX, which seems to have introduced a problem with the TeXsis macro package. When I now attempt to process a file using NeXTTeX 3.141 with TeXsis 2.15, I get the following error: (Fatal format file error; I'm stymied). The TeXbook (p. 299) explains that this error arises as the result of using a preloaded format prepared for a different version of TeX. I have accordingly deleted the old texsis.fmt format and texsis binary and reinstalled TeXsis. Yet the error persists. Any advice or suggestions would appreciated. /jim -- ---- Jim Blevins jblevins@uniwa.uwa.edu.au Centre for Linguistics phone: +61-9-380-1882 University of Western Australia fax: +61-9-380-1154 Nedlands, W.A. 6009
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: henry@trilithon.com (Henry McGilton) Subject: Re: Any plotting packages for the NeXT? Message-ID: <1993Jul21.163918.7318@trilithon.com> Sender: henry@trilithon.com Organization: Trilithon Software References: <1993Jul20.140752.5361@cs.yale.edu> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1993 16:39:18 GMT In article <1993Jul20.140752.5361@cs.yale.edu> temple@bragg.biology.yale.edu ("Temple Burling") writes: * Does anyone know whether a decent scientific plotting * package exists for the next, comercial or otherwise. I've * used NXYplot which is ok for quick and dirty plots, I find * SciPlot somewhat cumbersome. Lotus Improv is a pig and * most of the stuff it does I don't want. I'm looking for * something on the line of KaleidaGraph for the Mac, heck * even something like cricket graph would be ok. Try asking LogicStream in Palo Alto. E-mail to info@logicstream.com for details on their Espionage plotting program. ........ Henry
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: henry@trilithon.com (Henry McGilton) Subject: Re: NS Fonts Message-ID: <1993Jul19.185656.1629@trilithon.com> Sender: henry@trilithon.com Organization: Trilithon Software References: <4gGeuVO00WBK82LmVr@andrew.cmu.edu> Distribution: inet Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1993 18:56:56 GMT In article <4gGeuVO00WBK82LmVr@andrew.cmu.edu> dp3m+@andrew.cmu.edu (David Pascua) writes: * I need assistance in getting more fonts into our NeXTs. * We have some Macs in our networks and someone asked me if * we can port the TrueType fonts from our Macs into the NeXTs. * If anyone has done anything like this, please let me know. The following is extracted from the comp.fonts FAQ: ``In an effort to settle a long-running and oft-asked question, I'll be blunt: as of today [ 6/93 ] , THERE ARE NO NON-COMMERCIAL PROGRAMS WHICH WILL CONVERT FROM ONE SCALABLE FORMAT TO ANOTHER. Not from TrueType to PostScript Type 1, Type 3, Type 5, or any other scalable PostScript format. Not from PostScript Type 1 to TrueType. Not to or from Intellifont. Not to or from Sun F3 format.'' ``There are some commercial programs: AllType, Metamorphosis, Font Monger, and even MoreFonts (to/from some proprietary format, I believe). And there are probably other commercial programs as well. However, as several people have noted, conversion from one scalable format to another is a bad idea. If the original font was well hinted, the converted font will not be. Of course, if the original was poorly hinted, maybe it won't matter much.'' * Otherwise, are there any other sources (ftp, 3rd party, * etc.) of fonts for NS? RightBrain Software are the authorised distributor for all Adobe Type 1 fonts. Other font vendors do not bother with NEXTSTEP format fonts. If you have Macintosh or PC TYPE 1 format fonts you can obtain converters from Mac or PC to NEXTSTEP format from us at Trilithon Software. We also offer a font conversion service. E-mail to info@trilithon.com for details. There is a collection of Type 1 fonts for NEXTSTEP on sonata. Many of the fonts appear to be knockoffs of Adobe Type 1 fonts -- that is, they were generated by extracting the outlines from real Adobe fonts. As such, they are unhinted and of lower quality than real professionally designed fonts. ........ Henry
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: henry@trilithon.com (Henry McGilton) Subject: Re: NS Fonts Message-ID: <1993Jul25.182134.20105@trilithon.com> Sender: henry@trilithon.com Organization: Trilithon Software References: <4gGeuVO00WBK82LmVr@andrew.cmu.edu> Distribution: inet Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1993 18:21:34 GMT In article <4gGeuVO00WBK82LmVr@andrew.cmu.edu> dp3m+@andrew.cmu.edu (David Pascua) writes: In article <4gGeuVO00WBK82LmVr@andrew.cmu.edu> dp3m+@andrew.cmu.edu (David Pascua) writes: * I need assistance in getting more fonts into our NeXTs. * We have some Macs in our networks and someone asked me if * we can port the TrueType fonts from our Macs into the NeXTs. * If anyone has done anything like this, please let me know. The following is extracted from the comp.fonts FAQ: ``In an effort to settle a long-running and oft-asked question, I'll be blunt: as of today [ 6/93 ] , THERE ARE NO NON-COMMERCIAL PROGRAMS WHICH WILL CONVERT FROM ONE SCALABLE FORMAT TO ANOTHER. Not from TrueType to PostScript Type 1, Type 3, Type 5, or any other scalable PostScript format. Not from PostScript Type 1 to TrueType. Not to or from Intellifont. Not to or from Sun F3 format.'' ``There are some commercial programs: AllType, Metamorphosis, Font Monger, and even MoreFonts (to/from some proprietary format, I believe). And there are probably other commercial programs as well. However, as several people have noted, conversion from one scalable format to another is a bad idea. If the original font was well hinted, the converted font will not be. Of course, if the original was poorly hinted, maybe it won't matter much.'' * Otherwise, are there any other sources (ftp, 3rd party, * etc.) of fonts for NS? RightBrain Software are the authorised distributor for all Adobe Type 1 fonts. Other font vendors do not bother with NEXTSTEP format fonts. If you have Macintosh or PC TYPE 1 format fonts you can obtain converters from Mac or PC to NEXTSTEP format from us at Trilithon Software. We also offer a font conversion service. E-mail to info@trilithon.com for details. There is a collection of Type 1 fonts for NEXTSTEP on sonata. Many of the fonts appear to be knockoffs of Adobe Type 1 fonts -- that is, they were generated by extracting the outlines from real Adobe fonts. As such, they are unhinted and of lower quality than real professionally designed fonts. ........ Henry
From: rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us (Bob Peirce #305) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: Third Party CDs hang NS3.1 Message-ID: <1993Jul24.054336.27028@investor.pgh.pa.us> Date: 24 Jul 93 05:43:36 GMT Organization: Cookson, Peirce & Co., Pittsburgh, PA The other day I posted about a problem with third party CDs under NS3.1. N. Tomczak-Jaegermann at vega.math.ualberta.ca provided a solution that works. Here's what I did, based on his info. As ROOT cd /usr/filesystems mv CDROM.fs CDROM3.1.fs Load the NS3.0 CDRom and copy the CDROM.fs directory to /usr/filesystems. cd /usr/filesystems/CDROM.fs chmod u+s CDROM.util The last command is necessary so users other than root can use it. As near as I can tell you don't have to re-boot. When you put a CDRom in the OS goes out looking for these files fresh, each time. I had already re-booted before I noticed this. -- Bob Peirce, Pittsburgh, PA rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us 412-471-5320 venetia@investor.pgh.pa.us [NeXT Mail] !uunet.uu.net!pitt!investor!rbp [UUCP]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: cbaur@blabel.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de (Christian Baur) Subject: Re: FTP Sites w/Intel Software Message-ID: <1993Jul25.203321.3592@blabel.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> Organization: Home of BlackLabel References: <22oq60$eem@news.acns.nwu.edu> Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1993 20:33:21 GMT jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss) writes: >I've had trouble finding NS/intel software among the FTP sites around >the country. In particular I'm looking for SLIP, Emacs, kermit and >some graphics freeware/shareware. I've been using the Black hardware >to load up floppies at my office only to come home to find the images >are not FAT. With most FTP sites its hard to tell whats new/old, >especially while running Gator+. Anyone have a list of goodies and sites >they would like to share. > On ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de we maintain a file called 00DESC.tar.gz in ~ftp/pub/next, which contains all READMEs of our NeXT archive. In most cases it is mentioned in the READMEs if an app is also compiled 'fat'. Maybe this helps. Regards cb -- [ Christian Baur, Muenchen-Germany | Suicide is an urban disease ] [ cbaur@informatik.uni-muenchen.de | Spread by people and places like these ]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mjh@kronecker.mit.edu (Michael J. Hopkins) Subject: Re: Current NEXTSTEP EMACS front-end? Message-ID: <1993Jul26.014713.231@galois.mit.edu> Sender: news@galois.mit.edu Organization: MIT Department of Mathematics References: <1993Jul21.165237.8214@leland.Stanford.EDU> <1993Jul22.220502.4009@pixar.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 93 01:47:13 GMT Michael Johnson writes: >>> comments about how it is actually a benefit to have one window >>> in emacs... agree and munch > If I could just figure out how to cut from emacs and paste > somewhere else (the converse works fine) I'd be totally stoked... > Doesn't this just work. You have to use Emacs (the NS "front end") and then command-x and command-v work just like on a Macintosh!! Mike -- ----------------------------------- Mike Hopkins mjh@math.mit.edu -----------------------------------
From: jblevins@uniwa.uwa.edu.au (Jim Blevins) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.text.tex Subject: cmsg cancel <JBLEVINS.93Jul25185147@uniwa.uwa.edu.au> Control: cancel <JBLEVINS.93Jul25185147@uniwa.uwa.edu.au> Date: 26 Jul 93 11:02:41 Organization: University of Western Australia Distribution: world Message-ID: <JBLEVINS.93Jul26110241@uniwa.uwa.edu.au>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: joe@FreemanSoft.com (Joe Freeman) Subject: Re: The Second Annual Mesa Party Message-ID: <1993Jul25.192814.3099@FreemanSoft.com> Sender: jfreeman@FreemanSoft.com Organization: FreemanSoft Inc. References: <22gujt$1k3@hermes.athena.com> Distribution: usa Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1993 19:28:14 GMT In article <22gujt$1k3@hermes.athena.com> dpp@athena.com (David Pollak) writes: > > On August 4, 1992, Athena Design released Mesa. In the year since its > introduction, Athena Design has upgraded Mesa 5 times Its not clear that doing 5 upgrades in a year is something to crow about. That has some unpleasent implications with reguards to testing and qa. But, then I guess you are counting the "first company to release a fat binary product" which was built on a beta release of the systems tools. -- Joe Freeman FreemanSoft Inc. A NEXTSTEP software and consulting services company. Electronic Mail: Joe@FreemanSoft.com (NeXT Mail) Voice: 919.783.7033
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: wave@pixar.com (Michael B. Johnson) Subject: Re: Current NEXTSTEP EMACS front-end? Message-ID: <1993Jul26.073208.8402@pixar.com> Sender: news@pixar.com (Usenet Newsmaster) Organization: Pixar -- Point Richmond, California References: <1993Jul26.014713.231@galois.mit.edu> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1993 07:32:08 GMT In article <1993Jul26.014713.231@galois.mit.edu> mjh@kronecker.mit.edu (Michael J. Hopkins) writes: > Michael Johnson writes: > > >>> comments about how it is actually a benefit to have one window > >>> in emacs... agree and munch > > > If I could just figure out how to cut from emacs and paste > > somewhere else (the converse works fine) I'd be totally stoked... > > > > Doesn't this just work. You have to use Emacs (the NS "front end") > and then command-x and command-v work just like on a Macintosh!! > As many people have pointed, this *does* "just work". I didn't realize it, though... Anyway, now I don't have *any* complaints about the current Emacs.app! consider me stoked. -- --> Michael B. Johnson -- wave@media.mit.edu, wave@pixar.com --> MIT Media Lab -- Computer Graphics & Animation Group --> P*I*X*A*R -- IceMan Group (for the summer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: davis@sonata.cc.purdue.edu (Robert Davis) Subject: The best new feature in 3.1 Dev Message-ID: <CArnx1.1Lq@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> Sender: news@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (USENET News) Organization: Purdue University Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1993 10:03:01 GMT I've just discovered the best new feature of the 3.1 developer extensions: the emacs distribution includes the yow.lines. Type "/usr/lib/emacs/etc/yow" in a terminal window. Repeat ad infinitum. :-) Rob -- | Robert Davis davis@sonata.cc.purdue.edu | "Look up, Hannah." NeXT Mail accepted --
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: ijeff@hank.carleton.ca (Ian Jefferson) Subject: Re: TransSys SLIP for NS/I? Message-ID: <ijeff.743694500@cunews> Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator) Organization: Carleton University References: <224moj$ng9@tamsun.tamu.edu> <22rfii$23o@wa3ymh.transsys.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1993 13:48:20 GMT You might contact Benatong. They have a new serial driver. They could tell you who they spoke to to get it. Good luck. BTW If I wanted to run your software using cslip. Am I required to purchase one for each end? I have an Intel machine here at the university and a black box at home, and I would rather use my Intel machine as a slip server rather than our central annex server. Thanks Ian -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ian Jefferson ijeff@ccs.carleton.ca No NeXT mail please! ijeff@computeractive.on.ca NeXT mail please!
From: dbora@ils.nwu.edu (Donald Bora) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Question concerning CD-ROM and audio Date: 26 Jul 1993 15:01:18 GMT Organization: The Institute for the Learning Sciences Distribution: world Message-ID: <230rju$4d3@anaxagoras.ils.nwu.edu> To anyone: I have hooked up a NEC CD-ROM drive to my cube. I am trying to use the CDPlayer program to play cd-audio off the CD-ROM drive and it is not working. Any suggestions? -*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* Donald F. Bora | | | The Institute for the Learning Sciences | | O | Northwestern University | (--|--) Evanston, Ill | | e-mail: dbora@ils.nwu.edu | / \ work: (708) 467-1972 | --------Be excellent to each other--------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) Subject: Re: The Second Annual Mesa Party Message-ID: <1993Jul26.155814.6153@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: DSO, Stanford University References: <1993Jul25.192814.3099@FreemanSoft.com> Distribution: usa Date: Mon, 26 Jul 93 15:58:14 GMT Joe Freeman writes > David Pollak writes: > > On August 4, 1992, Athena Design released Mesa. In the year > > since its introduction, Athena Design has upgraded Mesa 5 times > > Its not clear that doing 5 upgrades in a year is something to > crow about. That has some unpleasent implications with reguards > to testing and qa. Nonsense. The upgrades all added functionality, as well as fixing some bugs. -- - Stefano Pagiola Food Research Institute, Stanford University spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged) spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: freedman@mpr.ca (Elliot Freedman) Subject: DriverDevlopment Kit for NEXTSTEP486 Message-ID: <1993Jul26.170636.6286@mprgate.mpr.ca> Sender: news@mprgate.mpr.ca Organization: MPR Teltech Ltd., Burnaby, B.C., Canada References: <CArnx1.1Lq@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1993 17:06:36 GMT Has the driver development kit been released for NEXTSTEP486? Elliot Freedman freedman@mpr.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: magnus@fisher.Stanford.EDU (Magnus Nordborg) Subject: Re: The best new feature in 3.1 Dev Message-ID: <1993Jul26.174832.10242@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: DSO, Stanford University References: <CArnx1.1Lq@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 93 17:48:32 GMT In article <CArnx1.1Lq@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> davis@sonata.cc.purdue.edu (Robert Davis) writes: > > I've just discovered the best new feature of the 3.1 developer > extensions: the emacs distribution includes the yow.lines. Type > "/usr/lib/emacs/etc/yow" in a terminal window. Repeat ad infinitum. > M-x yow works too. This didn't use to work!? Horror! Try M-x doctor, M-x dissociated-press and M-x hanoi for more serious stuff. -- Magnus Nordborg magnus@fisher.stanford.edu (NeXT mail preferred) Department of Biological Sciences Stanford University Stanford, CA 94305-5020 +1 (415) 723-4952 (office)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: davis@sonata.cc.purdue.edu (Robert Davis) Subject: Re: The best new feature in 3.1 Dev Message-ID: <CAsAvr.629@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> Sender: news@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (USENET News) Organization: Purdue University References: <CArnx1.1Lq@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> <1993Jul26.174832.10242@leland.Stanford.EDU> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1993 18:19:03 GMT magnus@fisher.Stanford.EDU (Magnus Nordborg) writes: >In article <CArnx1.1Lq@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> davis@sonata.cc.purdue.edu >(Robert Davis) writes: >> >> I've just discovered the best new feature of the 3.1 developer >> extensions: the emacs distribution includes the yow.lines. Type >> "/usr/lib/emacs/etc/yow" in a terminal window. Repeat ad infinitum. >> > >M-x yow works too. This didn't use to work!? In previous releases everything was in place except the file of quotes, which I grabbed from prep.ai.mit.edu or somewhere. This time, when I upgraded to 3.1, I was surprised to find that the only file conflict I had was yow.lines -- Upgrade.app was trying to add it to the filesystem. >Horror! Try M-x doctor, M-x dissociated-press and M-x hanoi for more >serious stuff. Yes, we are definitely interactive now. Am I SHOPLIFTING? Rob -- | Robert Davis davis@sonata.cc.purdue.edu | "Look up, Hannah." NeXT Mail accepted --
From: sowa@amdew.llnl.gov (Erik C. Sowa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: The best new feature in 3.1 Dev Date: 26 Jul 1993 19:35:45 GMT Organization: LLNL Chemistry and Materials Science Message-ID: <SOWA.93Jul26123545@amdew.llnl.gov> References: <CArnx1.1Lq@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> <1993Jul26.174832.10242@leland.Stanford.EDU> In-reply-to: magnus@fisher.Stanford.EDU's message of Mon, 26 Jul 93 17:48:32 GMT >>>>> "Magnus" == Magnus Nordborg <magnus@fisher.Stanford.EDU> writes: Magnus> M-x yow works too. This didn't use to work!? Magnus> Horror! Try M-x doctor, M-x dissociated-press and M-x hanoi for more Magnus> serious stuff. M-x psychoanalyze-pinhead (Eliza meets Zippy) -- erik sowa (sowa@amdew.llnl.gov)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,com From: jbowyer@cis.vutbr.cz (Bowyer Jeff) Subject: International Software Organization: Technical University of Brno, Czech Republic Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1993 07:21:33 GMT Message-ID: <1993Jul26.072133.2884@cis.vutbr.cz> Please share your expertise with our mailing list. INSOFT-L on LISTSERV@CIS.VUTBR.CZ Internationalization of Software Discussion List Internationalization of software relates to two subjects: 1. Software that is written so a user can easily change the language of the interface; 2. Versions of software, such as Czech WordPerfect, whose interface language differs from the original product. Topics discussed on this list include: -- Techniques for developing new software -- Techniques for converting existing software -- Internationalization tools -- Announcements of internationalized public domain software -- Announcements of foreign-language versions of commercial software -- Calls for papers -- Conference announcements -- References to documentation related to the internationalization of software This list is moderated. To subscribe to this list, send an electronic mail message to LISTSERV@CIS.VUTBR.CZ with the body containing the command: SUB INSOFT-L Yourfirstname Yourlastname Owner: Center for Computing and Information Services Technical University of Brno Udolni 19, 602 00 BRNO Czech Republic INSOFT-L-REQUEST@CIS.VUTBR.CZ
From: adunn@fnalnn.fnal.gov Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: SoftPC demo in NS/FIP ?? Date: 26 Jul 93 17:25:45 -0600 Organization: Fermi National Accelerator Lab Message-ID: <1993Jul26.172545.1@fnalnn.fnal.gov> In the June/July NeXTWORLD, it is stated that there is a demo version of SoftPC included with NS/FIP. Is this true? In particular, is the demo in the evaluation kit? Thanks, andy dunn dunn@mich.physics.lsa.umich.edu
From: zmonster@athena.mit.edu (Eric M Hermanson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Source Code/Binaries for some Intel programs Date: 26 Jul 1993 22:39:20 GMT Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology Distribution: world Message-ID: <231meo$7sl@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> I haven't been keeping up with this newsgroup, so forgive me if these question have been answered: I am looking for NS/Intel binaries for the following programs (in order of importance): 1. SciPlot 3.4 (!) 2. Newsgrazer (or rrn,trn if no newsgrazer) 3. Gator FTP ( or similar GUI type ftp program) 4. Opener 5 ImageViewer 6. Weather.app 6. f2c 7. DarkForest 8. MPEG Player 9. MOD Player 10. Yahtzee where are these located? If binaries aren't available, does anyone have modified source code that will compile under NS3.1 (Intel) that they could send me (a la NeXTMail)? Thanks, Eric
From: fischedj@ NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (David J. Fischer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: SoftPC demo in NS/FIP ?? Date: 26 Jul 1993 23:19:09 GMT Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology Message-ID: <231opd$9fo@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu> References: <1993Jul26.172545.1@fnalnn.fnal.gov> In article <1993Jul26.172545.1@fnalnn.fnal.gov> adunn@fnalnn.fnal.gov writes: > > In the June/July NeXTWORLD, it is stated that there is a demo version of > SoftPC included with NS/FIP. > > Is this true? In particular, is the demo in the evaluation kit? > > Thanks, > andy dunn > dunn@mich.physics.lsa.umich.edu It is to be included in NS/FIP v3.2. It is not included in NS/FIP v3.1 according to the documentation. -- David J. Fischer : fischedj@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu "What's more important, the plays of Shakespeare or the quill he used to write them down? If he'd used a mission critical custom quill with built-in spell checker, would his plays have been any better? " -- Dave Griffiths (in response to a NeXT advocate on c.s.n.m)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) Subject: Re: SoftPC demo in NS/FIP ?? Message-ID: <1993Jul26.232157.23238@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: DSO, Stanford University References: <1993Jul26.172545.1@fnalnn.fnal.gov> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 93 23:21:57 GMT adunn@fnalnn.fnal.gov writes > In the June/July NeXTWORLD, it is stated that there is a demo > version of SoftPC included with NS/FIP. > > Is this true? In particular, is the demo in the evaluation kit? NS/I 3.2 will have a SoftPC demo; supposedly it will run for 60 days or so; use after that will require a key. The current version of NS/I (3.1) does _not_ include a demo of SoftPC (it does include a free upgrade to 3.2, though--except if you buy the eval kit--so you'l eventually get it). The current version of NS/moto _does_ include a SoftPC demo for that architecture. It is fully functional but time-limited: it'll only run for 20min at a time. -- - Stefano Pagiola Food Research Institute, Stanford University spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged) spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
From: jfosback@darmok.uoregon.edu (Jason Fosback) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Creating more ttys... Date: 26 Jul 1993 23:35:53 GMT Organization: University of Oregon Network Services Message-ID: <231pop$jaa@pith.uoregon.edu> I tried creating more ttys (and ptys) with MAKEDEV, but I'm having problems. MAKEDEV pty2 created [pt]tyr[0-a], but the system doesn't seem to recognize them. Whenever I fill up ttyp0-ttyqf, I get the message: telnetd: All network ports in use. Some things to realize: * I did reboot after creating the new devices * The ttys exist in /etc/ttys Is there something I'm missing? Is there a NeXT kernel limitation that I'm bumping into? How can I get more ttys? (please, I need these ttys, so no flames) Thanks in advance. -jason _________________________________________________________________ Jason Fosback, User Support Analyst | No sir, I didn't like it ---- University of Oregon ---- | -R&S Internet: jfosback@oregon.uoregon.edu | Star Trek: NeXT mail: jfosback@darmok.uoregon.edu | The NeXT Generation...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: janet@lighthouse.com (Janet Hufnagel) Subject: Re: SUMMARY:Diagram.app blows up when starting - specific to user Message-ID: <1993Jul26.234554.1078@lighthouse.com> Sender: janet@lighthouse.com Organization: Lighthouse Design, Ltd. References: <1993Jul22.090837.2341@lighthouse.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1993 23:45:54 GMT Casey, Daniel and others, This is a problem with Diagram!1.1 running under NeXTStep 3.0, which can crash after the initial panel comes up. If it happens again, this dwrite should fix it: dwrite Diagram NXSystemFonts Helvetica If you have problems with Diagram you can write to diagram@lighthouse.com and we usually respond very quickly. Janet Hufnagel Lighthouse Design, Ltd. In article <1993Jul22.090837.2341@lighthouse.com> djiracek@thunder(Dan Jiracek) writes: > Thanks to Casey Palowitch who pegged it. I did a dremove -g NXFonts > (which may have been over kill), but it WORKED! > > > > Hi > > I've heard that changing the base system font with a dwrite will > cause certain versions of Diagram to crash. There is a patch available on > the > net, or, you can change the base font back to the standard (check > another machine). Hope this is the solution to your problem, > -- > ** Casey Palowitch - cjp+@pitt.edu UWSA #570881 ** > ** Networked Information Services Group / Technical Services ** > ** U. of Pittsburgh Library Systems // NeXTSTEP... ** > ** ...the most respected piece of software on the planet BYTE10/92 ** > > > In article <1993Jul21.163926.3567@fnbc.com> djiracek@thunder(Dan Jiracek) > writes: > > This user tries lauching Diagram.app and it blows up. Since it is user > > specific, I thought it might have something to do with his drwrite's for > > Diagram. But after removing all dwrites for Diagram, its still not > > working. Might it possibly be a different dwrite? And if so, does > anyone > > have a suggestion as to which one(s) it could be. > > > > Thanks, > > Dan > > > > -- > > Daniel Jiracek (312) 732-1421 > > Network Specialist Dan_Jiracek@fnbc.com > > First Chicago Bank NeXT Mail Accepted > > -- > Daniel Jiracek (312) 732-1421 > Network Specialist Dan_Jiracek@fnbc.com > First Chicago Bank NeXT Mail Accepted
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Re: QuickBase: is interesting? Date: 27 Jul 1993 00:46:50 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <231ttq$4ni@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <rcbaab.743252843@rwa.urc.tue.nl> On July 21 in comp.sys.next.software, rcbaab@rwa.urc.tue.nl (Annard Brouwer) wrote: > Can somebody tell me something about QuickBase? > How fast/easy-to-use is it? > Can you build complicated databases with it? First off, QuickBase is more of a database engine than a database program. By that I mean it's more of a programmer's resource than something that average users might use for building databases. It usually gets discussed in comp.sys.next.programmer instead of the software newsgroup. QuickBase lets the programmer use a relational database via a few different interfaces. You can either use some objects (in the programming sense) which understand SQL commands, or you can use the DBKit interface, or I think there might be some other options there too. One nice thing about this is that you can write both NeXTSTEP applications for your database, or regular command-line interfaces to the same database (which is nice if people telnet into your machine to access the information). I've only used QuickBase on a few fairly simple databases so far, but it certainly looks like you could build complicated databases using it. I even have some more elaborate databases that I want to build using QuickBase, but one of my NeXTstations is on loan to someone else, and that's thrown a wrench in a number of my plans. Right now I don't have Quickbase on any of my machines (I was out of hard disk space for awhile...). I've done some work with 4th Dimension on the Mac, and it really seems to me that the combination of QuickBase on the NeXT along with the Interface Builder would be a superior set of tools for creating small or medium-sized custom databases. For a large database, you'd probably want something running on a larger and faster machine than a NeXT anyway (QuickBase has the database itself on a NeXT, you aren't hooking up to some database server on a non-NeXTSTEP platform). If you're looking for more information on QuickBase, you could send a message to sdc@gun.com to get in touch with someone at SofDesign Solutions (note: there's no "t" in SofDesign...). You can also send a message to sdc_demo@gun.com to get a demo version of QuickBase. I believe this demo version is for NeXTstations only, but SofDesign was planning to have an NS-Intel version of QuickBase available soon (via a different email address). If you send to the demo account, you'll get nine messages mailed back to you (seven of which are NeXTmail). Be sure your message has a valid return email address, as it's an automatic daemon sending the messages, which only looks at the return address (nothing reads the text of the message you send it). Disclaimer time: I've done some beta testing for QuickBase, but I'm not part of the company. The guy who started the company is an RPI student who I used to be aquaintances with (which is how I got to be a beta tester). If you pick up the demo, you'll probably see my name pop up in one of the demo applications (I just took an older demo and spruced it up a bit). -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jr@sade.ka.sub.org (Jochen Richter) Subject: How to print from SoftPC to NeXTPrinter? Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1993 20:02:42 GMT Organization: The home of the Pilhuhn Sender: news@pilhuhn.sub.org (Das Newssystem auf pilhuhn) Message-ID: <CAqL0I.8y@pilhuhn.sub.org> How can I print from SoftPC to my NeXT laser printer? I have selected a postscript printer from Word5.5, but the generated file can neither be previewed nor printed. Any suggestions? -- Jochen Richter Phone +49-721-696922 Zahringerstrasse 57 Fax +49-721-696988 D-7500 Karlsruhe 1 e-mail: jr@sade.ka.sub.org Germany jr@resy.kfk.de (>50K)
From: kovarski@io.org (Mark Kovarski) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,alt.fan.bill-gates Subject: Re: From your friends at UNIXWorld Date: 27 Jul 1993 01:54:15 GMT Organization: Internex Online - Toronto, Canada (416) 363-3783 Distribution: usa Message-ID: <2321s7$8a9@ionews.io.org> References: <1993Jul16.210211.21253@Princeton.EDU> <1993Jul23.144123.18893@pencom.com> <1993Jul24.165535.3109@unislc.slc.unisys.com> <22tbmo$ecp@cmcl2.NYU.EDU> >thayne@unislc.slc.unisys.com (Thayne Forbes) writes: > >>So he beat out OS/2. Not something I would write home about. OS/2 2.x is here and is here to stay. I don't think NeXT has more NeXTStep applications but I think that if they can provide a good OS with reasonable requirements and good price, they will also be a serious player to deal with (or work with). >>While I agree that the world is not better because MS has a monopoly >>on small OS and applications, I will note that I keep buying and using >>their shit cause it works better than most everything else (Mac excepted). > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Well, Microsoft apps are very nice looking but once realibility comes to mind, that's where it all end. But than again. to have an entire reliable system you have to have a reliable operating system and this is where Windows and Windows NT fail. Well, maybe in 12 years they will come up with something better. (Or copy from somebody else like it usually is) <g> >>I can't count the number of times I have gotten a new MS package and >>installed the whole bloody thing and been working in 15 minutes. No >>reconfiguring, no recompile, no sweat. Conversely, I am trying yet >>again to get Linux working correctly today. Not up yet. As far as commercial packages and those kind of things. Most packages do work straight out of the box and they should. As far as Linux, well, you can not really complain because it is free and YOU had the choice to get it or not. It is still not completed and I think everybody is aware that there are still bugs. At least when you start programming and things like that you know there are no hidden calls, like some other company likes to do. So overall, while it may not be as stable YET, I am sure that it will be a fine product once it is fully debugged. Best Regards, Mark K.
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: FTP Sites w/Intel Software Date: 25 Jul 1993 11:59:03 -0000 Organization: Palumbian Research Labs Message-ID: <22tsi7$c3@marsu.tynet.sub.org> References: <22oq60$eem@news.acns.nwu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss) writes: >I've had trouble finding NS/intel software among the FTP sites around >the country. In particular I'm looking for SLIP, Emacs, kermit and >some graphics freeware/shareware. I've been using the Black hardware >to load up floppies at my office only to come home to find the images >are not FAT. With most FTP sites its hard to tell whats new/old, >especially while running Gator+. Anyone have a list of goodies and sites >they would like to share. SLIP: Not available for NSI yet. Doesn't make sense as long as the serial drivers aren't there, either. Emacs: 19.16 compiles with "configure next" from scratch perfectly. I don't know if someone already uploaded the binaries. If you have the developer stuff, compile youself. Kermit: Is not worth investigating without the serial drivers, like SLIP. freeware/shareware graphics software: I ported without trouble Utah Raster Toolkit 3.0 and TIFF lib. ImageViewer is available FAT. Gnuplot 1.2 is available as source. Most demos of commercial applications with release dates of June or later are also FAT, just try sonata or any other good ftp site. In most cases, you can figure out if they are FAT with the README file. Hope that helps, Markus. -- /dev Markus Wenzel, University of Stuttgart /usr/spool/mail mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org ~/.ircrc/nick Marsu /etc/motd NeXTSTEP for Cray computers? Where? When? How?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: neil@ms.uky.edu (Neil Greene) Subject: Re: FTP Sites w/Intel Software Message-ID: <CAtr4q.EFu@ms.uky.edu> Organization: Kentucky NeXT User Group, Inc. References: <22oq60$eem@news.acns.nwu.edu> <22tsi7$c3@marsu.tynet.sub.org> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1993 13:07:37 GMT mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel) writes: >jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss) writes: >>I've had trouble finding NS/intel software among the FTP sites around >>the country. In particular I'm looking for SLIP, Emacs, kermit and >>some graphics freeware/shareware. I've been using the Black hardware >>to load up floppies at my office only to come home to find the images >>are not FAT. With most FTP sites its hard to tell whats new/old, >>especially while running Gator+. Anyone have a list of goodies and sites >>they would like to share. >SLIP: Not available for NSI yet. Doesn't make sense as long as the serial > drivers aren't there, either. >Emacs: 19.16 compiles with "configure next" from scratch perfectly. I don't > know if someone already uploaded the binaries. If you have the > developer stuff, compile youself. >Kermit: Is not worth investigating without the serial drivers, like SLIP. >freeware/shareware graphics software: > I ported without trouble Utah Raster Toolkit 3.0 and TIFF lib. > ImageViewer is available FAT. > Gnuplot 1.2 is available as source. >Most demos of commercial applications with release dates of June or later >are also FAT, just try sonata or any other good ftp site. In most cases, >you can figure out if they are FAT with the README file. >Hope that helps, >Markus. TIFFany, digital image enhancement software, is available for Intel. Send email to info@bmd.com for a demo or for additional information.
From: shviid@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Steen H Hviid) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: HP terminal emulator needed Date: 27 Jul 1993 13:59:41 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Distribution: world Message-ID: <233ccd$nfr@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> I need to access a remote HP3000 computer, using telnet. Unfortunately, some of the programs I need to use only support HP's own proprietary terminal protocols, so Terminal and Stuart is not usable to me. Is there any terminal emulator out there, preferably freeware, which support HP terminal emulation? Thank you Steen Hansen Computer Specialist, Ohio State University email: hansen+@osu.edu (NeXTmail accepted)
From: t9116ts@tech.mis.cfc.com (Todd Swan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: The best new feature in 3.1 Dev Date: 27 Jul 1993 09:19:38 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9307271245.AA16926@tech.mis.cfc.com> In comp.sys.next.software article <1993Jul26.174832.10242@leland.Stanford.EDU> magnus@fisher.Stanford.EDU (Magnus Nordborg) wrote: > In article <CArnx1.1Lq@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> davis@sonata.cc.purdue.edu > (Robert Davis) writes: > > > > I've just discovered the best new feature of the 3.1 developer > > extensions: the emacs distribution includes the yow.lines. Type > > "/usr/lib/emacs/etc/yow" in a terminal window. Repeat ad infinitum. > > > > M-x yow works too. This didn't use to work!? > > Horror! Try M-x doctor, M-x dissociated-press and M-x hanoi for more > serious stuff. Try M-x psychoanalyze-pinhead for a big hoot... Todd -- Todd M. Swan - tms@cfc.com - Chrysler Financial, Centerline, MI "Life is a diamond we turn into dust..." - Rush
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.system From: dan@visix.COM (Daniel Appelquist) Subject: Previewing PS from Apple LW 8.0 on NeXT Sender: news@visix.com Message-ID: <CAsFCs.I1t@visix.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1993 19:55:40 GMT Organization: Visix Software, Reston, Virginia I'm having a problem where PostScript files created on a Mac using LaserWriter 8.0 (created as generic PostScript jobs with level 1 compatability) won't show up at all when previewed on a NeXT... If I actually dump it to the NeXT printer, the output is just fine, but if I try to preview it it looks like a bunch of blank pages. Does anybody have a clue what could be going on / how I can fix this? It isn't vital exactly, I'm just curious... (NeXTStep v3.0, NeXTStation Turbo Color, Mac IIci w/sys 7.1, laserwriter 8.0) Thanks, Dan -- Daniel K. Appelquist|QUANTA is the electronically published and distributed dan@visix.com |magazine of science fiction and fantasy. For more 703-758-2712 |information, send mail to quanta+@andrew.cmu.edu or, 703-758-0233 (Fax) |for back issues, ftp export.acs.cmu.edu, id:anonymous. -- NewsGrazer, a NeXTstep(tm) news reader, posting -- M>UQR=&8P7&%N<VE[7&9O;G1T8FQ<9C!<9FUO9&5R;B!#;W5R:65R.WT*7&UA M<F=L,3(P"EQM87)G<C$R,`I<<&%R9%QT>#$Q-3)<='@R,S`T7'1X,S0U-EQT M>#0V,#A<='@U-S8P7'1X-CDQ,EQT>#@P-C1<='@Y,C$V7'1X,3`S-CA<='@Q M,34R,%QF,%QB,%QI,%QU;&YO;F5<9G,R-%QF8S!<8V8P($DG;2!H879I;F<@ M82!P<F]B;&5M('=H97)E(%!O<W138W)I<'0@9FEL97,@8W)E871E9"!O;B!A M($UA8R!U<VEN9R!,87-E<E=R:71E<B`X+C`@*&-R96%T960@87,@9V5N97)I M8R!0;W-T4V-R:7!T(&IO8G,@=VET:"!L979E;"`Q(&-O;7!A=&%B:6QI='DI M('=O;B=T('-H;W<@=7`@870@86QL('=H96X@<')E=FEE=V5D(&]N(&$@3F58 M5"XN+B`@268@22!A8W1U86QL>2!D=6UP(&ET('1O('1H92!.95A4('!R:6YT M97(L('1H92!O=71P=70@:7,@:G5S="!F:6YE+"!B=70@:68@22!T<GD@=&\@ M<')E=FEE=R!I="!I="!L;V]K<R!L:6ME(&$@8G5N8V@@;V8@8FQA;FL@<&%G M97,N("!$;V5S(&%N>6)O9'D@:&%V92!A(&-L=64@=VAA="!C;W5L9"!B92!G M;VEN9R!O;B`O(&AO=R!)(&-A;B!F:7@@=&AI<S\@($ET(&ES;B=T('9I=&%L M(&5X86-T;'DL($DG;2!J=7-T(&-U<FEO=7,N+BY<"EP**$YE6%13=&5P('8S M+C`L($YE6%13=&%T:6]N(%1U<F)O($-O;&]R+"!-86,@24EC:2!W+W-Y<R`W M+C$L(&QA<V5R=W)I=&5R(#@N,"E<"EP*5&AA;FMS+%P*1&%N7`I<"BTM7`I$ M86YI96P@2RX@07!P96QQ=6ES='Q154%.5$$@:7,@=&AE(&5L96-T<F]N:6-A M;&QY('!U8FQI<VAE9"!A;F0@9&ES=')I8G5T961<"F1A;D!V:7-I>"YC;VT@ M("`@("`@?&UA9V%Z:6YE(&]F('-C:65N8V4@9FEC=&EO;B`@86YD("!F86YT M87-Y+B`@($9O<B`@;6]R95P*-S`S+3<U."TR-S$R("`@("`@("!\:6YF;W)M M871I;VXL('-E;F0@(&UA:6P@=&\@('%U86YT82M`86YD<F5W+F-M=2YE9'4@ M;W(L7`HW,#,M-S4X+3`R,S,@*$9A>"D@('QF;W(@8F%C:R!I<W-U97,L(&9T H<"!E>'!O<G0N86-S+F-M=2YE9'4L(&ED.F%N;VYY;6]U<RY<"@I]"G,L `
From: powell@tropic.aoml.erl.gov (Mark Powell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Source Code/Binaries for Intel Programs Date: 27 Jul 1993 15:13:48 GMT Organization: U.S. Department of Commerce, NOAA/AOML Message-ID: <233gnc$bp5@wave.aoml.erl.gov> I would like to second Eric Hermanson's request and add a couple of apps. Would it be possible to set up a seperate FAT/source area on sonata or at Oregon State for distribution of these programs? We are also looking for NS/Intel binaries for the following programs: 1. SciPlot 3.4 (!) 2. Newsgrazer 3. Gator FTP ( or similar GUI type ftp program) 4. Movie 2.51 or latest version 5. Weather.app 6. f2c 7. DarkForest 8. Hippodraw
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: martin@othello.math.uni-hannover.de (Martin Reinders) Subject: Re: Problem with Edit and TeX Message-ID: <1993Jul27.133839.1072@newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de> Sender: news@newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de (News Service) Organization: RRZN References: <1993Jul22.152106.140254@eratu.rz.uni-konstanz.de> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1993 13:38:39 GMT In article <1993Jul22.152106.140254@eratu.rz.uni-konstanz.de> frank@spock.physik.uni-konstanz.de (Frank Burgbacher) writes: > Hello > > My problem is, that not all text I enter with "Edit" seem to be visible to TeX. > It happens, that a whole paragraph is missing. I assume that there are some > hidden characters which are not visible in the Edit-window. Normally I can > recover the text by deleting and reinserting of blanks or something like that, > but this takes several runs of TeX to find the place. > > Any idea to avoid this ? It s annoying. > > Thank you > Frank This happens very often to me when I type "} " and press the <space>-bar before the <Alt>-key is released. This produces an "<Alt><Space>"-character in the text. It looks likes an ordinary space in Edit but causes TeX to ignore the rest of the line. (Try " cat -v textfile " and you'll see the mysterious characters.) Hope this helps, Martin. -- Martin Reinders (Martin.Reinders@cdc2.b.mathematik.uni-hannover.d400.de) Institut fuer Mathematik, Universitaet Hannover, Germany.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: austin@netcom.com (Tony Austin) Subject: Re: Adobe Illustrator on Black NeXTSTEP Message-ID: <austinCAu2Ct.88t@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) References: <1993Jul19.231800.3628@adobe.com> Distribution: na Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1993 17:10:04 GMT James Heiser (jheiser@adobe.com) wrote: : In article <22eush$i26@zip.eecs.umich.edu> Roland Telfeyan : <roland@gomidas.mi.org> writes: : > Is there a version of Adobe Illustrator later than 3.0.1 in existence? : > : > Roland : 3.0.1 is the current shipping version. I suspect that it will not be upgraded to 4.0 either. What a shame too. I bought my NEXT because of Adobe illustrator. Tony : James Heiser : Adobe Systems Incorporated
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,alt.fan.bill-gates From: thayne@unislc.slc.unisys.com (Thayne Forbes) Subject: Re: From your friends at UNIXWorld References: <1993Jul16.210211.21253@Princeton.EDU> <1993Jul23.144123.18893@pencom.com> <1993Jul24.165535.3109@unislc.slc.unisys.com> <22tbmo$ecp@cmcl2.NYU.EDU> <2321s7$8a9@ionews.io.org> Message-ID: <1993Jul27.152409.20253@unislc.slc.unisys.com> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,alt.fan.bill-gates Organization: HomeVax Distribution: usa Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1993 15:24:09 GMT Mark Kovarski (kovarski@io.org) wrote: : >thayne@unislc.slc.unisys.com (Thayne Forbes) writes: : >>While I agree that the world is not better because MS has a monopoly : >>on small OS and applications, I will note that I keep buying and using : >>their shit cause it works better than most everything else (Mac excepted). : > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ : Well, Microsoft apps are very nice looking but once realibility comes to : mind, that's where it all end. But than again. to have an entire : reliable system you have to have a reliable operating system and this is : where Windows and Windows NT fail. Well, maybe in 12 years they will come : up with something better. (Or copy from somebody else like it usually is) <g> As opposed to that stable Mac os. Tell me Mark. What is it about NT that makes it so unreliable that you cannot use it. Tell the truth. I thought so. : >>I can't count the number of times I have gotten a new MS package and : >>installed the whole bloody thing and been working in 15 minutes. No : As far as commercial packages and those kind of things. Most packages do : work straight out of the box and they should. Bull. MS apps do. CA apps do. Most of Borlands. The rest is a rather disappointing rabble. On one occasion, I sat down with a BETA app, and wrote up 24 bugs on the installation alone. This is not atypical. : As far as Linux, well, you can not really complain because it is free... What I meant was it takes a degree in CS just to get the damn thing loaded. It is an example to show the difference between a slick installation and a crappy one.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: patrick@wbar.uta.edu (Patrick Phillips) Subject: Re: Adobe Illustrator on Black NeXTSTEP Message-ID: <1993Jul27.175018.3523@news.uta.edu> Sender: news@news.uta.edu (USENET News System) Organization: University of Texas at Arlington References: <austinCAu2Ct.88t@netcom.com> Distribution: na Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1993 17:50:18 GMT In article <austinCAu2Ct.88t@netcom.com> austin@netcom.com (Tony Austin) writes: > : > Is there a version of Adobe Illustrator later than 3.0.1 in > : > existence? > : 3.0.1 is the current shipping version. > I suspect that it will not be upgraded to 4.0 either. What a > shame too. I bought my NEXT because of Adobe illustrator. About a year ago I reported a few (apparently known) bugs that showed up in Illustrator as soon as I started using it (mostly to do with page layout and printing). The support people took my name and told me that they were going to release a bug fix upgrade in the next month or so. That didn't even make it out the door. I use Illustrator all the time and like it alot, but I think that we got left holding the bag on this one. Patrick Phillips University of Texas at Arlington patrick@wbar.uta.edu (NeXTMail) phil@decster.uta.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Scott Byer <byer@mv.us.adobe.com> Subject: Re: Previewing PS from Apple LW 8.0 on NeXT Message-ID: <1993Jul27.174219.23054@adobe.com> Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS) Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated References: <CAsFCs.I1t@visix.com> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1993 17:42:19 GMT Daniel Appelquist writes > I'm having a problem where PostScript files created on a Mac using > LaserWriter 8.0 (created as generic PostScript jobs with level 1 > compatability) won't show up at all when previewed on a NeXT... > If I actually dump it to the NeXT printer, the output is just > fine, but if I try to preview it it looks like a bunch of blank > pages. Does anybody have a clue what could be going on / how I > can fix this? It isn't vital exactly, I'm just curious... Sometimes the NeXT Previewer gets confused about Document Structuring comments - even when they are correct :-(. Try editing the first line of the PostScript file to have only a "%!" on it. You won't be able to page backwards in Preview, but the file should show up. -- Scott Byer NeXTMail: byer@adobe.com Adobe Systems Incorporated These are my own opinions, and 1585 Charleston Road, P.O. Box 7900 do not necessarily reflect Mountain View, CA 94039-7900 the opinions of my employer.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Gregory_Mutzel@afs.com Subject: Re: How to print from SoftPC to NeXTPrinter? Message-ID: <1993Jul27.173318.3138@afs.com> Sender: mutz@afs.com References: <CAqL0I.8y@pilhuhn.sub.org> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1993 17:33:18 GMT In article <CAqL0I.8y@pilhuhn.sub.org> jr@sade.ka.sub.org (Jochen Richter) writes: > How can I print from SoftPC to my NeXT laser printer? I have selected a > postscript printer from Word5.5, but the generated file can neither be > previewed nor printed. Any suggestions? > You may want to try and use enscript to format your com or lpt output to postscript. Go to the Preferences Panel / Ports in SoftPC and choose pipe for the port your DOS app is printing to and in the textField type enscript. See the man pages for complete syntax. -- Gregory L. Mutzel, 215-653-0911 Anderson Financial Systems, Inc. email: Gregory_Mutzel@afs.com [NeXTmail Appreciated]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: scwg0600@ih-nxt01.cso.uiuc.edu (Steven C Weintz) Subject: Re: Pages? Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1993 19:13:34 GMT Message-ID: <CAu82M.Fu4@news.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <chinacatCAn5BB.n14@netcom.com> Sender: usenet@news.cso.uiuc.edu (Net Noise owner) Keywords: word processing, NeXT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana In article <chinacatCAn5BB.n14@netcom.com> chinacat@netcom.com (J. Petersen) writes: > What's the status on Pages? Is it as great as it was rumored to be > going to be? How about its availability for black hardware? How > much does it cost, are there student discounts, and for how long > will it be supported/upgraded? > > Thanks for any info. > -- > Jim Petersen > chinacat@netcom.com I got ahold of a nice person at Pages via e-mail back in June and recieved some info. Unfortunately I don't have the disk I save my old mail on with me today (ah, student accounts and their generous 1 MB limit...:-)) I'll post the details as soon as I can. Edu price quoted to me was $195. I strongly urged the creation of a "Thesis" Design Model (easily the biggest pain in the ass about grad school - thesis format "conventions", I mean) and she said that when the product is released they may very well sponsor a collegiate design contest to generate such models appropriate to various universities. Finally, such niceties as mail merge and auto TOC won't be supported till version 2.0. I'll correct any errors in this post when i have the file again. Regards, Steve Weintz scwg0600@sumter.cso.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Thierry.Desbois@metasoft.fdn.org Subject: Re: SoftPC demo in NS/FIP ?? Message-ID: <1993Jul27.143809.4017@metasoft.fdn.org> Sender: news@metasoft.fdn.org Organization: Metasoft - Rennes, France. References: <1993Jul26.232157.23238@leland.Stanford.EDU> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1993 14:38:09 GMT In article <1993Jul26.232157.23238@leland.Stanford.EDU> spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) writes: > adunn@fnalnn.fnal.gov writes > > In the June/July NeXTWORLD, it is stated that there is a demo > > version of SoftPC included with NS/FIP. > > > > Is this true? In particular, is the demo in the evaluation kit? > > NS/I 3.2 will have a SoftPC demo; supposedly it will run for 60 days > or so; use after that will require a key. The current version of > NS/I (3.1) does _not_ include a demo of SoftPC (it does include a > free upgrade to 3.2, though--except if you buy the eval kit--so you'l > eventually get it). Yes, but the question is also : Can we buy a NS/FIP 3.1 version of SoftPC... TODAY ?? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Thierry Desbois Tel: (+33) 99 31 68 00 Fax: (+33) 99 35 00 45 Metasoft ted@metasoft.fdn.org [NeXTmail welcome] ----------------------------------------------------------------------
From: ernest@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu (Ernest Prabhakar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Adobe Illustrator on Black NeXTSTEP - from RightBrain? Date: 27 Jul 1993 19:21:23 GMT Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena Distribution: na Message-ID: <233v7jINNobn@gap.caltech.edu> References: <austinCAu2Ct.88t@netcom.com> In article <austinCAu2Ct.88t@netcom.com> austin@netcom.com (Tony Austin) writes: > : 3.0.1 is the current shipping version. > > > I suspect that it will not be upgraded to 4.0 either. > Tony > > : James Heiser > : Adobe Systems Incorporated Has anyone read the blurb in NextWorld "RightBrain to offer Adobe DTP Products"? It says Adobe will "allow RightBrain Software to develop and market ... Illustrator and TouchType NEXTSTEP proucts." What all does this mean? Does RightBrain get source code? Will they be able to keep up with the latest updates to Illustrator on other platforms? Whats even more bizzarre (if I remember correctly) is that RightBrain initially sold the rights to "develop and market" TouchType to Adobe in the first place. Am I the only one whose head is spinning? Overall, of course, it sounds wonderful, although there was the "no timetable announced" disclaimer. Could anybody out there confirm this is happening (Glenn?) and give us any idea of when we'll see 4.0 on Black&White? - Ernie P. -- Ernest N. Prabhakar Caltech High Energy Physics Member, League for Programming Freedom (league@prep.ai.mit.edu) CaJUN President NeXTMail:ernest@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu "...and ourselves, your servants for Jesus sake." - II Cor 4:5b #import <std/disclaimer.h>
From: isbell@cats.ucsc.edu (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: HP 700/96 terminal emulation under SoftPC or Executor Date: 27 Jul 1993 19:58:45 GMT Organization: Cubic Solutions - NeXT software development and consulting Distribution: world Message-ID: <2341dlINN9bc@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> A client needs to access from NeXTSTEP a character-based application that runs under HP/UX and requires an HP 700/96 (or 700/92) terminal. I've considered several approaches: - Get Scott Hess to write a NeXTSTEP HP terminal emulator :-) - Run a DOS HP terminal emulator under SoftPC; - Run a Mac HP terminal emulator under Executor; - Establish a remote login session in Terminal (would HP/UX's VT100 termcap/terminfo entry do the right thing so that the app could be run without HP terminal emulation? If you have any thoughts or experience in these matters, please contact me. Thanks. -- Art Isbell Cubic Solutions NeXT Registered Developer NEXTSTEP software development and consulting NeXTmail: isbell@cats.UCSC.EDU Voice: (408)335-1154 USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: (408)335-2515
From: npratt@gecko.modsys (Nevin Pratt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Problem installing NEXTSTEP 3.1 Date: 27 Jul 1993 20:00:13 GMT Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <2341gd$rg0@cnn.sim.es.com> References: <1993Jul20.222624.36628@rchland.ibm.com> In article 36628@rchland.ibm.com, tgall@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Tom Gall) writes: [ munch ...] > By the sounds of THIS, you installed the wrong mouse driver. On the initial > setup screen, after the very first reboot, (this is the screen where you set your > video mode, mouse, Ethernet card, sound etc), the mouse setup DEFAULTS > to a PS/2MOUSE. You MUST change this to a serial mouse. > > If you can navigate the Workspace with the keyboard and fire up the > Configure.app from /NextAdmin great, if you can't, you've got to reinstall from > the ground up. sorry 8-( (You may have to anyway, simply because, NeXTSTEP > doesn't allow the user to control the mouse from the keyboard....HINT HINT > NUDGE NUDGE WINK WINK WINK are you folks who work at NeXT listening??) At the 'boot:' prompt, type a question mark '?', and you will be given a bunch of help information. Included with that information is the fact that you can type 'config=default' at the 'boot:' prompt, and you'll be given a chance (later) to reset your configuration for the serial mouse. Nevin
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bff@csn.org (Brendan Forsyth) Subject: SLIP/Sendmail Config Message-ID: <CAuFzr.BrM@csn.org> Sender: news@csn.org (news) Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc. Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1993 22:04:37 GMT Help. I have a slip connection to the internet and am having one helluva time getting mail delivered to the rest of my network. Here is a diagram of what we have. +------+ +--------+ | NeXT |<--SLIP--->|Internet| +------+ (pvh.org) +--------+ | Ethernet | +-----+ +-------The rest of my net--->| | +-----+ Does anyone have any suggestion about possible configurations of the NeXT to have it deliver mail? Thanks Brendan
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jheiser@adobe.com (James Heiser) Subject: Re: Adobe Illustrator on Black NeXTSTEP - from RightBrain? Message-ID: <jheiser-270793145947@macs566.sc.us.adobe.com> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS) Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated References: <austinCAu2Ct.88t@netcom.com> <233v7jINNobn@gap.caltech.edu> Distribution: na Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1993 22:30:24 GMT In article <233v7jINNobn@gap.caltech.edu>, ernest@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu (Ernest Prabhakar) wrote: > Has anyone read the blurb in NextWorld "RightBrain to offer Adobe DTP > Products"? It says Adobe will "allow RightBrain Software to develop > and market ... Illustrator and TouchType NEXTSTEP proucts." > > What all does this mean? Does RightBrain get source code? Will they > be able to keep up with the latest updates to Illustrator on other > platforms? > > Whats even more bizzarre (if I remember correctly) is that RightBrain > initially sold the rights to "develop and market" TouchType to Adobe in > the first place. Am I the only one whose head is spinning? > > Overall, of course, it sounds wonderful, although there was the "no > timetable announced" disclaimer. Could anybody out there confirm this > is happening (Glenn?) and give us any idea of when we'll see 4.0 on > Black&White? > > - Ernie P. > > -- > Ernest N. Prabhakar Caltech High Energy Physics > Member, League for Programming Freedom (league@prep.ai.mit.edu) > CaJUN President NeXTMail:ernest@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu > "...and ourselves, your servants for Jesus sake." - II Cor 4:5b > #import <std/disclaimer.h> Well my head isn't spinning, but it is a lot like watching the French Open (RightBrain->Adobe->RightBrain) :-). Now, I am no expert on the agreement between the two companies, but from what I (that's "I" not "Adobe") understand RightBrain will continue the enhancement of Adobe's products on NEXTSTEP. That would lead us to believe that they would be getting source (remember I am not an expert on this). As for what this all means; I'd say even better apps on NEXTSTEP! If RightBrain gets source to port Illustrator 5.0 to NEXTSTEP we will have a very cool app to play with... When will we see 4.0 on NeXT? Well we almost have it now. There were basicly two features that separated Illustrator 4.0 on the P.C. from Illustrator 3.2. on the Mac. The first was "Edit in Preview" (which we have on NeXT) and the second was the broad file format support. Personally, I think that "4.0" was a marketing thing allowing Windows users to believe that their Illustrator was "bigger" than others :-) What differentiates Illustrator for the P.C. from Illustrator for the NeXT is the broad file format support, but no other version of Illustrator has that. Enough rambling, James Heiser Adobe Systems Incorporated Standard Disclaimers Apply
From: ckuhn@sgcl1.unisg.ch Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Problems with ET4000 on ISA machine Message-ID: <1993Jul27.234719.902@sgcl1.unisg.ch> Date: 27 Jul 93 23:47:19 GMT Organization: University of St.Gallen, Switzerland Hi I have a Tseng Lag ET4000 card on my machine with .5 MB of memory, but unfortunatley I can only run NeXT successfully in VGA mode. When I install the ET4000 driver, the screen flickers (strong) when it changes to graphics mode. I have a NEC multysync 5D monitor which supports all the graphic levels of my card (I have verified that under DOS with a demo program). Does the ET4000 driver only support a certain ROM date of the Tseng cards or only from a special manufacturer? Thank you for any replies. Christoph Kuhn IWI_4 University of St. Gallen (CH)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Scott Byer <byer@mv.us.adobe.com> Subject: Re: Adobe Illustrator on Black NeXTSTEP - from RightBrain? Message-ID: <1993Jul28.002838.13153@adobe.com> Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS) Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated References: <jheiser-270793145947@macs566.sc.us.adobe.com> Distribution: na Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1993 00:28:38 GMT James Heiser writes > When will we see 4.0 on NeXT? Well we almost have it now. Small correction; there won't be any AI4.0 for the NeXT. Windows Illustrator 4.0 was a major version in name only - it is feature equivalent to Unix version 3.5. In any case, please don't go holding your breath yet. -- Scott Byer NeXTMail: byer@mv.us.adobe.com Adobe Systems Incorporated These are *my* opinions, and 1585 Charleston Road, P.O. Box 7900 do not necessarily reflect Mountain View, CA 94039-7900 the opinions of my employer. ---------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.databases.sybase From: vince@pons.umhc.umn.edu (Vince Netz) Subject: SYBASE Woes (was Re: Sybase database available for NSFIP?) Message-ID: <CAuowF.1D7@news.cis.umn.edu> Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities References: <CAIIwo.5vp@cosy.sbg.ac.at> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1993 01:15:26 GMT Bernhard Nocker writes in comp.sys.next.software: > > Dear all, > > has anyone information concerning sybase server running under NSFIP? I too was interested in getting Sybase running on NeXTs - both server and client - either on black or Intel hardware or preferably both. This isn't because I think Sybase is necessarily the best db available, but I need to interact easily with some existing "Sybases", the new Next Developer's package has the DBKit sybase interface, and there's ofcourse scads of NS-Sybase documentation (albeit a bit dated) both around the net and shipped with the new Nextstep release. After getting a lot of conflicting info, even from Next sales, I called Sybase and got a big pile of color brochures. They detailed many different available platforms and OS's, but I was disappointed to see that the word "Nextstep" appeared nowhere. After jumping through phone hoops, I finally talked to someone at Sybase who was NS knowledgeable (at least they knew what NS meant and that it's been ported to Intel - finding that person took awhile). Just today I received the following bad news, paraphrased from a conversation with pre-sales technical at 800-933-0044: The Sybase server which runs on NeXTs is designed only for Nextstep 2.0 - it's an old server version and is not qualified to run on higher NS versions. It does 'run' on NS 3.1 on black hardware, but only just, and it is not supported. If you're able to get it to work, more power to you. Neither the client nor the server work on NS-Intel machines. Their quote-of-the-day was: "Sybase has no commitment to move to Nexstep for Intel Processors - we might put out a client someday, but a server is definitely out. For now there are no NS products." Suddenly my previous confusing phonecalls to Sybase made sense - calls in which the regional sales office couldn't provide me price quotes and the local sales office didn't return my calls. Now I have to wonder why Next bothers shipping tantalizing Sybase interfaces, programming examples, hundreds of pages of online docs, and all the stuff in the /usr/sybase directory when the party line from Sybase seems to be that they're out of Nextstep for good? Does anyone have different information, preferably from Sybase directly? ===================================================================== Vince Netz, Systems Manager Phone +1 612 626 3136 Quality Assurance & Utilization Management FAX +1 612 626 3524 University of Minnesota Hospital & Clinic vince@pons.umhc.umn.edu Minneapolis, MN
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: SoftPC demo in NS/FIP ?? Message-ID: <1993Jul27.203359.2357@yvax.byu.edu> From: john@kolob.byu.edu (John Peterson) Date: 27 Jul 93 20:33:59 -0700 References: <1993Jul27.143809.4017@metasoft.fdn.org> In article <1993Jul27.143809.4017@metasoft.fdn.org> writes: > In article <1993Jul26.232157.23238@leland.Stanford.EDU> > spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) writes: > > adunn@fnalnn.fnal.gov writes > > > In the June/July NeXTWORLD, it is stated that there is a demo > > > version of SoftPC included with NS/FIP. > > > > > > Is this true? In particular, is the demo in the evaluation kit? > > > > NS/I 3.2 will have a SoftPC demo; supposedly it will run for 60 days > > or so; use after that will require a key. The current version of > > NS/I (3.1) does _not_ include a demo of SoftPC (it does include a > > free upgrade to 3.2, though--except if you buy the eval kit--so you'l > > eventually get it). > > Yes, but the question is also : > Can we buy a NS/FIP 3.1 version of SoftPC... TODAY ?? > No. I called them and asked. They said it will not be released until 3.2. -- John Peterson -- Networked Computer Support -- Brigham Young University Internet: John_Peterson@byu.edu Phone: (801) 378-5007
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: hv@uwasa.fi (Harri Valkama) Subject: Re: Problems with ET4000 on ISA machine Message-ID: <1993Jul28.054338.21096@uwasa.fi> Organization: University of Vaasa, Finland References: <1993Jul27.234719.902@sgcl1.unisg.ch> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1993 05:43:38 GMT In article <1993Jul27.234719.902@sgcl1.unisg.ch> ckuhn@sgcl1.unisg.ch writes: >Hi > >I have a Tseng Lag ET4000 card on my machine with .5 MB of memory, but >unfortunatley I can only run NeXT successfully in VGA mode. When I install the >ET4000 driver, the screen flickers (strong) when it changes to graphics mode. I think you need that 1 Mb of memory on that card. >I have a NEC multysync 5D monitor which supports all the graphic levels of my >card (I have verified that under DOS with a demo program). > >Does the ET4000 driver only support a certain ROM date of the Tseng cards or >only from a special manufacturer? > >Thank you for any replies. > >Christoph Kuhn >IWI_4 >University of St. Gallen (CH) -harri- -- ///// Harri Valkama, hv@uwasa.fi (also NeXTmail welcome) ///// University of Vaasa, P.O.Box 700, 65101 VAASA, Finland ///// Telephone: +358 61 324 8364 fax: +358 61 324 8465 ///// Anonymous ftp site moderator at garbo.uwasa.fi (128.214.87.1)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc From: kent@infoserv.com Subject: ND Software Message-ID: <CAupxM.5yE@infoserv.com> Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard) Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting Distribution: na Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1993 01:39:21 GMT I asked a very general question about ND software last week. I should have asked a more specific question. Is there any software to capture video clips and send them out the digital output on the board? Is the ND capable of mixing video from 2 of the inputs and sending it out the output? Is the ND capable of overlaying an image on the computer onto live video as is passes from the ND input to the output. last thing I got my ND from someone who had it sitting on a shelf with no Docs. If anyone has the docs or any technical info on the ND it would be nice if you can send it. NeXTmail is fine. I'll post all email responses to the net. Thanks, Kent -- /* K.L. Shephard Consulting is my company. Infoserv only delivers my mail. */ /* Please direct mail to kent@infoserv.com other adresses may not work. */
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,alt.fan.bill-gates,comp.os.linux From: abulhak@nyx.cs.du.edu (Andrew_-_Bulhak) Subject: Re: From your friends at UNIXWorld Message-ID: <1993Jul28.071054.24227@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> Sender: usenet@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu (netnews admin account) Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci. References: <1993Jul16.210211.21253@Princeton.EDU> <1993Jul23.144123.18893@pencom.com> <1993Jul24.165535.3109@unislc.slc.unisys.com> <22tbmo$ecp@cmcl2.NYU.EDU> <2321s7$8a9@ionews.io.org> <1993Jul27.152409.20253@unislc.slc.unisys.com> Distribution: world,happynet Date: Wed, 28 Jul 93 07:10:54 GMT thayne@unislc.slc.unisys.com (Thayne Forbes) writes: >: As far as Linux, well, you can not really complain because it is free... >What I meant was it takes a degree in CS just to get the damn thing >loaded. It is an example to show the difference between a slick >installation and a crappy one. If you don't like the lack of a slick installation procedure, what are you doing with Linux? People who can't hack Unix should stick with OS/2 and DOS. // Andrew Bulhak abulhak@nyx.cs.du.edu // Pardon the origin of this article, the Australian news gateway is // in desperate need of the Stark Fist of Removal...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: al@rbc.uucp (Al Davis) Subject: Re: SoftPC demo in NS/FIP ?? Message-ID: <1993Jul28.034821.4450@rbc.uucp> Sender: al@rbc.uucp (Al Davis) Organization: Huh? References: <1993Jul26.172545.1@fnalnn.fnal.gov> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1993 03:48:21 GMT adunn@fnalnn.fnal.gov writes > In the June/July NeXTWORLD, it is stated that there is a demo version of > SoftPC included with NS/FIP. I see this as an admission of failure. NS/FIP should run MSDOS and Windoze programs as if they were native, but it doesn't. The only reason Windoze sells is bacause of all the programs that run on it. NextStep (OS-2, Solaris, QNX, SCO unix, etc.) will never catch on if it won't run PC software. SoftPC's existence is an admission that it won't. Now you can if you can put up with something much worse than a real PC. The best so far is Sun's Wabi. It still works pretty bad but is so much better than anything else that it alone might be a reason to buy Solaris over Nextstep. NextStep will only succeed if it can run PC crap as easily as it runs its own stuff. It is not necessary to run everything, just most of it. If they do it right, the PC stuff should run BETTER on NewNextStep than on Windoze. This oversight is only making the Microsoft empire bigger. If they add this one feature they can take on Microsoft. I am thinking of buying a PC so I won't have to put up with SoftPC.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dgursky@nextsrv1.andi.org (David Gursky) Subject: Mail.app problem Message-ID: <dgursky.743788689@news.andi.org> Summary: Trying to open Active.mbox cause Mail.app to quit Keywords: Mail, Nextmail Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1993 15:58:09 GMT Just like the summary says folks - one of my coworker's has had their Active.mbox stepped on in some fashion, so that trying to open it causes Mail.app to quit most unceremoniously - it just ups and dies. I *suspect* the problem is that the Table Of Contents file within Active.mbox is corrupt. Is there some way I can manually or automatically regenerate this file? What about some running some higher-level scan on Active.mbox? I've looked at the mbox file and it looks fine, likewise the various enclosur es appear to be OK.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.system From: dgursky@nextsrv1.andi.org (David Gursky) Subject: Re: Previewing PS from Apple LW 8.0 on NeXT Message-ID: <dgursky.743795347@news.andi.org> Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International References: <CAsFCs.I1t@visix.com> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1993 17:49:07 GMT dan@visix.COM (Daniel Appelquist) writes: >I'm having a problem where PostScript files created on a Mac using >LaserWriter 8.0 (created as generic PostScript jobs with level 1 >compatability) won't show up at all when previewed on a NeXT... If I >actually dump it to the NeXT printer, the output is just fine, but if >I try to preview it it looks like a bunch of blank pages. Does >anybody have a clue what could be going on / how I can fix this? It >isn't vital exactly, I'm just curious... As an aside, it doesn't work if you specify Level 2 either, but I digress. If you create an EPS file (either with or eithout the preview), it will display correctly on the NeXT. You'll loose the page orientation however. Presumably Scott Byer will have a better answer than this...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: m@BlueRose.com (M Carling) Subject: Re: Talus Imaging's phone # ?? Message-ID: <1993Jul28.042445.3283@BlueRose.com> Sender: m@BlueRose.com Organization: Blue Rose Systems, Inc. References: <22hmvc$chv@agate.berkeley.edu> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1993 04:24:45 GMT In article <22hmvc$chv@agate.berkeley.edu> izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa) writes: > I am looking for the phone # of Talus Imaging. > Can anyone tell me? 713-561-0700 M Carling President, Bay Area NeXT Group
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,alt.fan.bill-gates,comp.os.linux From: Hans Becker <hans.becker@infolog.se> Subject: Re: From your friends at UNIXWorld Message-ID: <1993Jul28.093622.2732@infolog.se> Sender: news@infolog.se Organization: Infologics AB References: <1993Jul28.071054.24227@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1993 09:36:22 GMT In article <1993Jul28.071054.24227@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> Andrew_-_Bulhak, abulhak@nyx.cs.du.edu writes: >If you don't like the lack of a slick installation procedure, what are >you doing with Linux? People who can't hack Unix should stick with >OS/2 and DOS. Many people are quiet satisfied with NextStep. ----------------------------- hans.becker@infolog.se
From: ckuhn@sgcl1.unisg.ch Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Problem installing NEXTSTEP 3.1 Message-ID: <1993Jul28.085054.903@sgcl1.unisg.ch> Date: 28 Jul 93 08:50:51 GMT References: <1993Jul20.222624.36628@rchland.ibm.com> <2341gd$rg0@cnn.sim.es.com> Distribution: world Organization: University of St.Gallen, Switzerland In article <2341gd$rg0@cnn.sim.es.com>, npratt@gecko.modsys (Nevin Pratt) writes: > In article 36628@rchland.ibm.com, tgall@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Tom Gall) writes: > > [ munch ...] > >> By the sounds of THIS, you installed the wrong mouse driver. On the initial >> setup screen, after the very first reboot, (this is the screen where you set your >> video mode, mouse, Ethernet card, sound etc), the mouse setup DEFAULTS >> to a PS/2MOUSE. You MUST change this to a serial mouse. >> >> If you can navigate the Workspace with the keyboard and fire up the >> Configure.app from /NextAdmin great, if you can't, you've got to reinstall from >> the ground up. sorry 8-( (You may have to anyway, simply because, NeXTSTEP >> doesn't allow the user to control the mouse from the keyboard....HINT HINT >> NUDGE NUDGE WINK WINK WINK are you folks who work at NeXT listening??) > > At the 'boot:' prompt, type a question mark '?', and you will be given a bunch > of help information. Included with that information is the fact that you can > type 'config=default' at the 'boot:' prompt, and you'll be given a chance (later) > to reset your configuration for the serial mouse. > > Nevin > > PS: watch the spelling (case sensitive): config=Default
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jon@afs.com Subject: Re: SoftPC demo in NS/FIP ?? Message-ID: <1993Jul28.143458.1158@afs.com> Sender: jon@afs.com References: <1993Jul28.034821.4450@rbc.uucp> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1993 14:34:58 GMT In article <1993Jul28.034821.4450@rbc.uucp> al@rbc.uucp (Al Davis) writes: | adunn@fnalnn.fnal.gov writes | > In the June/July NeXTWORLD, it is stated that there is a demo version of | > SoftPC included with NS/FIP. | |I see this as an admission of failure. NS/FIP should run MSDOS and Windoze |programs as if they were native, but it doesn't. The only reason Windoze sells | is bacause of all the programs that run on it. NextStep (OS-2, Solaris, QNX, | SCO unix, etc.) will never catch on if it won't run PC software. SoftPC's | existence is an admission that it won't. Now you can if you can put up with | something much worse than a real PC. | |The best so far is Sun's Wabi. It still works pretty bad but is so much better | than anything else that it alone might be a reason to buy Solaris over | Nextstep. Two points: First of all, Soft PC is written by Insignia. Insignia not only has a license to the Windows code for use in their own products, but is producing the DOS/Windows compatability system for Windows NT (Risc versions). Do you honestly believe that Sun's WABI could be better than this??? MS will do everything they can to make sure that WABI will break. You can bet on it. Second, though it is "SoftPC," the processor no longer has to be emulated- it's running on the 486, so it will run much faster than in the emulated versions. The main purpose of the 486 version of SoftPC is to interface with NeXTSTEP. (translating Windows->display postscript, cut/paste, etc.) In other words, DOS/Windows *is* running natively. It just doesn't have a NeXT logo on the box. Big deal. Buy it if you want it. If it's important enough, they'll buy it. And it will cost less than upgrading all their DOS/Windows software to NT or DOS 4.0. I suggest you try the 486 version of SoftPC before you condemn it. It looked pretty speedy at NeXTWorld, though Steve's demo may have been smoke and mirrors. <Where they doing any real demoing at the Insignia booth? Anyone know?> (PS. The reason Windows sells so many copies is that it's on damn near all the PC's sold whether the buyer (or the PC vendor) likes it or not.) -- Jon Hendry It's a thousand classes, give or take a few, <jon@afs.com> I'll be writing more in a week or two. I can make it deeper if you like the style, I can change it round and I want to be an ObjectWare Writer
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) Subject: Re: SoftPC demo in NS/FIP ?? Message-ID: <1993Jul28.154415.19373@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: DSO, Stanford University References: <1993Jul28.034821.4450@rbc.uucp> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 93 15:44:15 GMT Al Davis writes > > In the June/July NeXTWORLD, it is stated that there is a > > demo version of SoftPC included with NS/FIP. > > I see this as an admission of failure. NS/FIP should run MSDOS > and Windoze programs as if they were native, but it doesn't. Yes, that would be ideal. But also far from trivial. Look at what happened when NeXT tried to do AppleTalk by itself. I think having a workable third-party solution is far better than a buggy, we'll-release-it-RSN in-house solution. Insignia already has the rights to MS's code to make DOS/Windows emulation work. To my mind, that is quite sufficient to convince people with legacy apps to switch (it convinced me, all of 3 years ago). > I am thinking of buying a PC so I won't have to put up with SoftPC. Why? Get an NS/I box; then if you really want to run DOS/Windows apps native just boot it in DOS mode. -- - Stefano Pagiola Food Research Institute, Stanford University spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged) spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
From: cedman@golem.ps.uci.edu (Carl Edman) Subject: Re: Mail.app problem Message-ID: <CEDMAN.93Jul28095355@schnorer.uci.edu> In-reply-to: dgursky@nextsrv1.andi.org's message of Tue, 27 Jul 1993 15:58:09 GMT Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Date: 28 Jul 93 16:54:07 GMT References: <dgursky.743788689@news.andi.org> In article <dgursky.743788689@news.andi.org> dgursky@nextsrv1.andi.org (David Gursky) writes: Just like the summary says folks - one of my coworker's has had their Active.mbox stepped on in some fashion, so that trying to open it causes Mail.app to quit most unceremoniously - it just ups and dies. I *suspect* the problem is that the Table Of Contents file within Active.mbox is corrupt. Is there some way I can manually or automatically regenerate this file? What about some running some higher-level scan on Active.mbox? I've looked at the mbox file and it looks fine, likewise the various en es appear to be OK. Almost certainly your problem is a leftover .lock file in the Mail.app directory. Delete it and you will be fine. This question comes up twice a week and is in the FAQ. To answer your other question: Mail.app is pretty good about detecting a corrupt Table_of_Contents file. If it does it will automatically and quietly recreate one from the mbox file. It will do the same if you just delete the Table_of_Contents file entirely or touch(1) the mbox file. Still, if you want to list the Table_of_Contents, get the mailapp-utilities-1.1 from any of the popular archives and listmail the mailbox in question. Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Scott Byer <byer@mv.us.adobe.com> Subject: Re: Previewing PS from Apple LW 8.0 on NeXT Message-ID: <1993Jul28.171041.25996@adobe.com> Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS) Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated References: <dgursky.743795347@news.andi.org> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1993 17:10:41 GMT David Gursky writes > Presumably Scott Byer will have a better answer than this... I didn't really; I suggested making the first line with just "%!" - you lose the ability to page backwards, but stuff will usually display. The NeXT Previwer seems to have a conflict sometimes with valid DSC (it really doesn't handle non-valid DSCs well at all, but that's another matter). The Mac driver people worked *very* hard to make sure the LaserWriter 8.0 driver generated valid DSCs - and I personally haven't had a problem with it yet. In general the LaserWriter 8.0 driver generates the second-best PostScript I've seen (generally NeXT apps generate the best - but there are exceptions). I had the same problem with some Dec documentation - it would appear in Preview upside down until I changed the first line of the PostScript file. -- Scott Byer NeXTMail: byer@mv.us.adobe.com Adobe Systems Incorporated These are *my* opinions, and 1585 Charleston Road, P.O. Box 7900 do not necessarily reflect Mountain View, CA 94039-7900 the opinions of my employer. ---------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: thf@zelator.in-berlin.de (Thomas Funke) Subject: Re: Third Party CDs hang NS3.1 Message-ID: <1993Jul27.105809.1023@gamelan> Sender: thomas@gamelan (thomas) Organization: Disorganization References: <1993Jul24.054336.27028@investor.pgh.pa.us> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1993 10:58:09 GMT In article <1993Jul24.054336.27028@investor.pgh.pa.us> rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us (Bob Peirce #305) writes: > > Load the NS3.0 CDRom and copy the CDROM.fs directory to > /usr/filesystems. > This seems to be one of the common NeXT-bugfix "on new systems several old things just don't work anymore." :-(( Can you really use a 3.0-filesystem on NS3.1 ?? Can other people confirm this bug ? -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Thomas Funke ** Unix-Consultant ** thf@zelator.in-berlin.de Brook's Law: Adding manpower to a late software project makes it later ------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware From: raf@shell.portal.com (Man Wei Tam) Subject: Re: Question concerning CD-ROM and audio Message-ID: <CAw12u.Kq3@unix.portal.com> Sender: news@unix.portal.com Organization: Portal Communications Company -- 408/973-9111 (voice) 408/973-8091 (data) References: <230rju$4d3@anaxagoras.ils.nwu.edu> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1993 18:37:41 GMT In article <230rju$4d3@anaxagoras.ils.nwu.edu> dbora@ils.nwu.edu (Donald Bora) writes: > I have hooked up a NEC CD-ROM drive to my cube. I am trying to use >the CDPlayer program to play cd-audio off the CD-ROM drive and it >is not working. Any suggestions? I have no advice to offer, I'm afriad BUT - I have the NEC CD-ROM drive on my machine also, except this time it's an Intel box. This drive is quite capable of playing audio from <gulp> MS Windows. Hmm...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dgursky@nextsrv1.andi.org (David Gursky) Subject: Re: Previewing PS from Apple LW 8.0 on NeXT Message-ID: <dgursky.743884927@news.andi.org> Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International References: <dgursky.743795347@news.andi.org> <1993Jul28.171041.25996@adobe.com> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1993 18:42:07 GMT Scott Byer <byer@mv.us.adobe.com> writes: >I didn't really; I suggested making the first line with just "%!" >- you lose the ability to page backwards, but stuff will usually >display. Actually, I have a follow-up question to you. Do you mean to add a line at the beginning of the file that is just "%!", or to change the first line of the from whatever it is (something akin to "%! Adobe"?) to "%!"? David M. Gursky NeXTMail accepted Synex, Inc. e-mail: dgursky@nextsrv1.andi.org 5950 Symphony Woods Road voice: ............ (301) 621-5732 Columbia, MD 21044 fax: .............. (301) 621-6005
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Scott Byer <byer@mv.us.adobe.com> Subject: Re: Previewing PS from Apple LW 8.0 on NeXT Message-ID: <1993Jul28.202650.6275@adobe.com> Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS) Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated References: <dgursky.743884927@news.andi.org> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1993 20:26:50 GMT David Gursky writes > Actually, I have a follow-up question to you. Do you mean to add > a line at the beginning of the file that is just "%!", or to > change the first line of the from whatever it is (something akin > to "%! Adobe"?) to "%!"? Either way; a first line of "%!PS-Adobe-..." means that the file thinks it conforms to the Document Structuring Convention. "%!" means plain PostScript. Preview cues on this, and tries to use the DSCs if the file says it complies - that's when things can get messed up. -- Scott Byer NeXTMail: byer@mv.us.adobe.com Adobe Systems Incorporated These are *my* opinions, and 1585 Charleston Road, P.O. Box 7900 do not necessarily reflect Mountain View, CA 94039-7900 the opinions of my employer. ---------------------------------------------------------------------
From: mcconnap@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Andy McConnell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Slpitting large files to DOS disk Date: 28 Jul 1993 21:01:31 GMT Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology Distribution: world Message-ID: <236pfb$nhd@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu> I need to split a large (5MB+) file onto several DOS formatted diskettes. The file then needs to be recombined on a DOS machine. (yeah, I know... but it's for a friend who has no net connection. He works on a SCO 386 (unix) and wants emacs badly. I have no access to SCO boxes, and he no access to NeXT's. Our plan: ftp->NeXT->DOS->SCO.) I am running NS 2.1 on a '040 slab. I am looking for a common (DOS?) archiver with source available so i can make it myself for the NeXT. arj is one example, but its creator hasn't released the source. If you know of any available programs to accomplish this, please let me know. Or if you can think of a better way, I'd love to hear it! Thanks in advance... -- Andy McConnell mcconnap@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu Fluid Science Learning Center Developer CS BS '93 Rose-Hulman Institute Of Technology "The beaurocratic mentality is the only constant in the universe."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: claire@cubx.com (Claire Normand) Subject: Cub'X-Window Demo for NS/FIP Message-ID: <1993Jul28.150119.22940@cubx.com> Sender: news@cubx.com Organization: Cub'x Systemes - Rueil Malmaison, France. Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1993 15:01:19 GMT Both Cub'X-Window demo packages placed on archive servers cs.orst.edu and sonata cc.purdue.edu are corrupted and cannot be installed. The package on cs.orst.edu in pub/next/submissions will be replaced in the very near future. Please accept our apologies for any inconvenience this may have created. Thanks, Claire Normand Cub'x Systemes Immeuble Sedgwick 7, Rue E. & A. Peugeot 92563 Rueil Malmaison Cedex - France Tel : (+33) (1) 47 08 74 40 Fax : (+33) (1) 47 08 74 41 e-mail : claire@cubx.com (NeXT mail)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,alt.fan.bill-gates,comp.os.linux From: Nik.Clayton@brunel.ac.uk (Nik Clayton) Subject: Re: From your friends at UNIXWorld Message-ID: <CAw70M.wK@brunel.ac.uk> Organization: Brunel University, West London, UK References: <2321s7$8a9@ionews.io.org> <1993Jul27.152409.20253@unislc.slc.unisys.com> <1993Jul28.071054.24227@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> Distribution: world,happynet Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1993 20:45:57 GMT In article <1993Jul28.071054.24227@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> abulhak@nyx.cs.du.edu (Andrew_-_Bulhak) writes: >thayne@unislc.slc.unisys.com (Thayne Forbes) writes: > >>: As far as Linux, well, you can not really complain because it is free... > >>What I meant was it takes a degree in CS just to get the damn thing >>loaded. It is an example to show the difference between a slick >>installation and a crappy one. > >If you don't like the lack of a slick installation procedure, what are >you doing with Linux? People who can't hack Unix should stick with >OS/2 and DOS. And people wonder why they sold millions? Well, DOS did anyway... Rgds, Nik -- =-=[Nik Clayton]=-=[Brunel University]=-=[User Support]=-=[Comp. Sci.]=-= =-=-=-=-=-=-=[Opinion, n: See the above text for an example]=-=-=-=-=-=-= "When you are in it up to your ears, keep your mouth shut."
From: dave@truth.asg.arlut.utexas.edu (Dave Slotnick) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Does anyone know of any good graphing software for NEXTSTEP? Message-ID: <88639@ut-emx.uucp> Date: 28 Jul 93 20:22:36 GMT Sender: news@ut-emx.uucp I'm looking for a commercial graphing package for NEXTSTEP? Something similar to (ugh) Cricket Graph or Delta Graph on the Macintosh. I've been using Improv, but I require a little more functionality. -- *** David Slotnick *** Applied Research Laboratories *** dave@truth.asg.arlut.utexas.edu NeXTmail desired and appreciated
From: david@jaffe.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: MusicKit vs. MIDI Date: 28 Jul 1993 22:30:50 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Message-ID: <236umq$shr@agate.berkeley.edu> References: <Jul1.173801.22597@acs.ucalgary.ca> As one of the designers of the Music Kit, I'd like to attempt to re-focus the discussion here. First, comparing the Music Kit and MIDI is asking the wrong question. You would probably not think to compare a Macintosh MIDI application with a MIDI synthesizer. The Music Kit provides both the scheduling/MIDI capabilities of the Macintosh application *AND* DSP synthesis. So it is much wiser to team up the Music Kit *with* MIDI. That is, the Music Kit is a tool kit for making DSP *and* MIDI applications. It's not necessarily a substitute for MIDI. Its most powerful usage is when it is combined with MIDI, with some sounds coming from the NeXT and some coming from external MIDI equipment, and with both controlled by external MIDI input devices. For example, in a piece I am now working on, I play my Zeta electric/MIDI violin, its acoustic sound enters the DSP through the DSP serial port, it is processed via filters and envelopes whose characteristics change dynamically according to algorithms running in the Music Kit, and this entire process is controlled by the pitch detection of the violin itself. Furthermore, the Music Kit is doing synthesis in parallel and outputting MIDI to external boxes. (Note: The DSP serial port support is not in the current versions of the Music Kit. It is in the new 4.0 Music Kit which is scheduled to be released "some time soon", meaning probably mid-September.) > > The MusicKit is running on a > single DSP executing about 12.5 million instructions per second. > You have nowhere NEAR the processing power you need there to > resynthesize decent instruments in real time. > "Decent instruments in real time" *are* possible in real time on a single DSP. In fact, how many "decent instruments" depends on the particular algorithm. For example, for some simple algorithms, the Music Kit can do about 30 voices in real time. For some complex algorithms, the Music Kit can do only one voice. It is also somewhat subjective what is "decent". It often depends on the musical context in which the sound is placed. The computer music literature is rich with algorithms that produce interesting, rich sounds. Some are quite efficient--others are not. I gather that at least one person who posted on this topic equates sampling (or sample-playing) with "realistic instruments". It is true, of course, that the DSP cannot do sampling in the usual way because there isn't enough DSP memory. But you *can* do sampling with the NeXTstep 3.0 sound support. This support can be nicely integrated with the Music Kit, allowing you to use the DSP for other music tasks in parallel with the sampling support--the sound from both is automatically mixed by the sound driver! For example, try running the 3.0 Music Kit version of Ensemble and select "PlaySound" as one of the "instruments". While Ensemble cannot substitute for a sampler (due to buffer latencies, coexistance with Mach, and other details) it can also do things that a sampler can't do. For example, it can play a disk file of unlimited size in response to incoming MIDI. Samplers, on the other hand, are restricted to what they can hold in RAM. It's important to realize that sampling is only one of many algorithms for producing sound. While it may be the most "realistic" in some ways, it is also extremely limited. Basically, you have a snapshot of a particular sound of a particular instrument playing in a particular style. It sounds great when you first hear it play one note. But it is a huge mistake to think that you have captured the sound of the instrument itself. Having said this, sampling is still a very effective computer music tool if used wisely. But there are also other techniques. A whole family of new "physical model" algorithims have tremendous potential. These are well-suited to implementation on the 56K with the Music Kit. In fact, their development has been carried out to a large extent using tools built on top of the Music Kit. For example, see Perry Cook's SPASM application, which produces singing voice sounds by modeling the human vocal tract. A copy of the application he developed as part of his doctoral thesis is available from ccrma-ftp.stanford.edu, I believe. One of the strengths of the physical model approach is the parametric control they provide, control over physical variables such as violin bow speed and bow position. I do agree that the sample instruments provided with the Music Kit (i.e. the Music Kit SynthPatch Library) are not the most innovative algorithms around. They were intended as examples of well-known generic techniques. The real power of the Music Kit DSP approach is that, unlike a commercial synthesizer or sampler, the Music Kit is an open architecture. It is *programmable* and allows the user (albeit the sophisticated user) to develop new algorithms. We are all familiar with the trade-off between generality and power. Since the Music Kit uses a general open DSP architecture, it may not get as many simultaneous voices as a special-purpose chip. But it's still a hell of a lot better than software synthesis running on the 040 and can even compete well against expensive RISC chips when doing many music algorithms. I should also mention that while one DSP does have limitations, 5 DSPs makes a great box! The Ariel QuintProcessor, a NeXTcube card which is being supported by an upcoming release of the Music Kit, features 5 DSPs, each with its own SRAM, as well as a bank of DRAM for samples and reverberation, a SCSI chip and a large number of serial ports. Getting back to the issue of why the Music Kit SynthPatches may not sound as refined as your MIDI box, please keep in mind the difference between one of the Music Kit SynthPatches and a "preset" on a commercial synthesizer. Each Music Kit SynthPatch is a different algorithm, whereas most commercial synthesizers provide a fixed set of possible algorithms. A "preset" in a commercial synthesizer is a particular set of parameters for a particular algorithm. This corresponds in the Music Kit to a set of parameter settings in a scorefile or Music Kit application. What makes your MIDI gear sound good is the many hours of work by the manufacturers in making "good-sounding presets." At NeXT, there were no teams of sound designers. Instead, we made a tool that is much more flexible than most commercial MIDI boxes. But it's up to the user to design sounds that interest him or her. This is more of a challenge than using a ROM voice in a sample-playing MIDI box, but it's also potentially more rewarding for some situations. In conclusion, the Music Kit combines MIDI processing and scheduling support with DSP synthesis and (in Music Kit 4.0) sound processing. It is well-suited to being used in conjunction with MIDI, as a MIDI control center with on-board tightly-coupled DSP synthesis and processing support of its own. It is also an excellent development environment for studying new computer music algorithms. By the way, many of you are probably wondering whether there is life after black hardware, with respect to the Music Kit and other music-related NeXT support. While I can't be specific right now, I can say that there is activity in this area and I'm (cautiously) optimistic. David A. Jaffe david@jaffe.com (I don't read the usenet regularly so if you really want me to respond, please copy me on the post.)
From: mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (alex) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Rocks1.8fat.tar requires gunzip? Message-ID: <88640@ut-emx.uucp> Date: 28 Jul 93 23:14:34 GMT Sender: news@ut-emx.uucp I was in the process of installing the Rocks.pkg and discovered that it could not be completed because the installation requires the presense of gunzip which I don't happen to have. Now I am going to have to dig around and find gunzip and probably I will have to compile it for NS (which means I will have to boot from an optical which has the developer system on it)... etc and so forth. Please folks, dont' assume that everyone has everything already on their system. If your application installer requires more than the normal you could at least let people know or even include the decompression program (GNU unzip is freeware after all). Pardon my raving. I do like Rocks but I don't look forward to having to search the net to find gunzip and all that. Would someone like to NeXTmail me the gunzip binary? -- =============================== Alex Currier mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu NeXTmail preferred! ===============================
From: danubius@halcyon.com (Joseph R. Pannon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,alt.fan.bill-gates,comp.os.linux Subject: Re: From your friends at UNIXWorld Date: 28 Jul 1993 18:28:59 -0700 Organization: "A World of Information at your Fingertips" Sender: news@nwfocus.wa.com Distribution: world,happynet Message-ID: <23794r$7r7@nwfocus.wa.com> References: <1993Jul16.210211.21253@Princeton.EDU> <2321s7$8a9@ionews.io.org> <1993Jul27.152409.20253@unislc.slc.unisys.com> <1993Jul28.071054.24227@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> In article <1993Jul28.071054.24227@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> abulhak@nyx.cs.du.edu (Andrew_-_Bulhak) writes: > >If you don't like the lack of a slick installation procedure, what are >you doing with Linux? People who can't hack Unix should stick with >OS/2 and DOS. That's one of the silliest arguments I've read in this group. How is one to learn to be a Unix hacker if he already has to be one to install a Unix? You obviously haven't the foggiest where many of the Linux enthusiasts are coming from. It's from the DOS world for whom the installation has to be something they find familiar from there. SLS is a step toward that, but it's not quite there yet. I feel that for a full acceptance of Linux a working QIC40/80 driver for tape drives common in the DOS world is also essential. Without it is just too much of a risk or inconvenience to commit Linux to any critical application. As it is right now, Linux, IMHO, can only enjoy its present popularity till a low cost, low resource hungry Unix clone is brought to the market with good and convenient backup capability. Many of the current Linux fans would probably scrape up the $100-200 for such a system even if they can enjoy Linux free. Who knows? The Mark Williams Co. just might be working on such a thing. Nothing in the above should be construed as a criticism of Linus and his helpers. They have already given too much of their time and talent to the rest of us to deserve anything but praise and gratitude. Joe Pannon
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,alt.fan.bill-gates,comp.os.linux From: vince@victrola.wa.com (Vince Skahan) Subject: Re: From your friends at UNIXWorld References: <1993Jul16.210211.21253@Princeton.EDU> <1993Jul23.144123.18893@pencom.com> <1993Jul24.165535.3109@unislc.slc.unisys.com> <22tbmo$ecp@cmcl2.NYU.EDU> <2321s7$8a9@ionews.io.org> <1993Jul27.152409.20253@unislc.slc.unisys.com> <1993Jul28.071054.24227@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> Organization: We Don't Need No Steekin' MS-DOS Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1993 01:03:27 GMT Message-ID: <CAwIxs.B6@victrola.wa.com> Distribution: world,happynet abulhak@nyx.cs.du.edu (Andrew_-_Bulhak) writes: >thayne@unislc.slc.unisys.com (Thayne Forbes) writes: >>: As far as Linux, well, you can not really complain because it is free... >>What I meant was it takes a degree in CS just to get the damn thing >>loaded. It is an example to show the difference between a slick >>installation and a crappy one. you must speak a different variant of english. I installed mcc-interim linux in one try with *barely* skimming the documentation. It was certainly simpler to install than building a DOS5.0 system with MS-Windows when you spend your whole day fighting config.sys to loadhi. I've also installed SLS in one try with *no* documentation. How simple are you looking for it to get ? -- ---------- Vince Skahan --------- vince@victrola.wa.com ------------- Seattle - where sunshine doesn't...
Newsgroups: comp.databases.sybase,comp.sys.next.software From: coconut@crash.cts.com (Brian Dear) Subject: Re: SYBASE Woes (was Re: Sybase database available for NSFIP?) Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA Date: 28 Jul 93 18:45:13 PDT Message-ID: <1993Jul28.184513.7935@crash> References: <CAuowF.1D7@news.cis.umn.edu> Thanks for being this Sybase issue up. Hmm, let's see. Here's my List Of Companies That Have Evidently Given Up on NEXTSTEP: Adobe Frame Lotus Sybase We considered getting Sybase but are now thinking such a move would be ill-advised. We're now thinking Quickbase. Parabase sounds nice, but doesn't it need Sybase? If Parabase is standalone then it's a contender. Ideal case: a database server and client setup that can run in NS3.1 on both NeXT and Intel machines, and is _supported_ by its vendor. Any hope?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) Subject: Re: Rocks1.8fat.tar requires gunzip? Message-ID: <1993Jul29.041212.24205@cs.yale.edu> Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News) Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT References: <88640@ut-emx.uucp> Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1993 04:12:12 GMT In article <88640@ut-emx.uucp> mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (alex) writes: > I was in the process of installing the Rocks.pkg and discovered that it could > not be completed because the installation requires the presense of gunzip > which I don't happen to have. Now I am going to have to dig around and find > gunzip and probably I will have to compile it for NS (which means I will have > to boot from an optical which has the developer system on it)... etc and so > forth. Please folks, dont' assume that everyone has everything already on > their system. If your application installer requires more than the normal you > could at least let people know or even include the decompression program (GNU > unzip is freeware after all). > > Pardon my raving. I do like Rocks but I don't look forward to having to search > the net to find gunzip and all that. Would someone like to NeXTmail me the > gunzip binary? Not only that, but it looks for the program in a hard-coded path, "/usr/bin/gunzip", so if like us you prefer to install such things in /usr/local/bin you'll need to make a link. Pretty shabby. -- Nathan "USENET" Janette PPP link from hilbert.csb.yale.edu Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
From: poole@cs.ubc.ca (David Poole) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: turning off next printer at boot time in 3.1 Message-ID: <237h8f$a88@cs.ubc.ca> Date: 29 Jul 93 03:47:27 GMT Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada I am running NeXTSTEP 3.1, and I can't get the printer to turn off at boot time. What used to work (I got this from this newsgroup) is to have in /etc/rc.local if [ -f /usr/etc/nppower ]; then sleep 3 /usr/etc/nppower off (echo 'powering off NeXTprinter') >/dev/console fi This used to work when I was running 2.0, but it doesn't work any more. Thanks for your help, David
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Rocks1.8fat.tar requires gunzip? Date: 29 Jul 1993 01:33:32 -0400 Organization: Digital Fix Development Distribution: world Message-ID: <237nfc$aq@digifix.digifix.com> References: <1993Jul29.041212.24205@cs.yale.edu> Nathan F. Janette writes > Not only that, but it looks for the program in a hard-coded path, > "/usr/bin/gunzip", so if like us you prefer to install such things in > /usr/local/bin you'll need to make a link. > > Pretty shabby. Looks like it was packaged under 3.1... NeXT includes gunzip in 3.1 and its path is /usr/bin/gunzip. Scott -- - Scott Anguish - sanguish@digifix.com (NextMail) next-announce@digifix.com (comp.sys.next.announce submissions)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.bill-gates,comp.os.linux,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software From: tfinn@crash.cts.com (Aaron Grier) Subject: Re: From your friends at UNIXWorld Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA Distribution: world,happynet Date: 28 Jul 93 23:25:39 PDT Message-ID: <1993Jul28.232539.25769@crash> References: <1993Jul27.152409.20253@unislc.slc.unisys.com> <1993Jul28.071054.24227@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> <23794r$7r7@nwfocus.wa.com> In article <23794r$7r7@nwfocus.wa.com> danubius@halcyon.com (Joseph R. Pannon) writes: >That's one of the silliest arguments I've read in this group. How is >one to learn to be a Unix hacker if he already has to be one to install >a Unix? Do it recursively! :-) tfinn@crash.cts.com (Preferred) The Finn/ VLA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: m@BlueRose.com (M Carling) Subject: Re: SYBASE Woes (was Re: Sybase database available for NSFIP?) Message-ID: <1993Jul29.042302.6289@BlueRose.com> Sender: m@BlueRose.com Organization: Blue Rose Systems, Inc. References: <CAuowF.1D7@news.cis.umn.edu> Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1993 04:23:02 GMT In article <CAuowF.1D7@news.cis.umn.edu> vince@pons.umhc.umn.edu (Vince Netz) writes: > Now I have to wonder why Next bothers shipping tantalizing Sybase > interfaces, programming examples, hundreds of pages of online docs, > and all the stuff in the /usr/sybase directory when the party line > from Sybase seems to be that they're out of Nextstep for good? Does > anyone have different information, preferably from Sybase directly? NeXT ships the Sybase client stuff because NEXTSTEP is a good client for connecting to Sybase running on big servers. Running Sybase on NEXTSTEP makes a lot less sense (the old version that was available was intended only for development, not for production use). Sybase (like most relational database engines) is optmized for OnLine Transaction Processing (OLTP) which few users are ever going to choose NEXTSTEP for. Rather, NEXTSTEP is a good server environment (given that NEXTSTEP is already the choice for the client side) for small to medium sized relational database applications that are oriented not to OLTP but to Decision Support i.e. many and sundry queries against a relatively stable data set. M Carling President, Blue Rose Systems, Inc.
From: wrob@unixg.ubc.ca (Robert Wong) Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems,comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXTstation serial ports and Kermit Date: 29 Jul 1993 09:55:22 GMT Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada Distribution: world Message-ID: <2386qa$6cm@skeena.ucs.ubc.ca> What is the fastest speed that a NeXTstation serial port can be clocked? Currently, I'm running kermit and I have /dev/cufa set at 38400. Can I clock it faster? RWW. -- Robert W. Wong Jr. wrob@unixg.ubc.ca (ASCII only) Crasher of Automated Banking Machines and Keeper of the ZyXEL FAQ
From: jcburt@gatsibm.larc.nasa.gov () Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,alt.fan.bill-gates,comp.os.linux Subject: Re: From your friends at UNIXWorld Date: 29 Jul 1993 13:01:50 GMT Organization: NASA Langley Research Center Distribution: world,happynet Message-ID: <238hnuINN72a@rave.larc.nasa.gov> References: <1993Jul27.152409.20253@unislc.slc.unisys.com> <1993Jul28.071054.24227@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> <CAw70M.wK@brunel.ac.uk> In article <CAw70M.wK@brunel.ac.uk> Nik.Clayton@brunel.ac.uk (Nik Clayton) writes: >In article <1993Jul28.071054.24227@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> abulhak@nyx.cs.du.edu (Andrew_-_Bulhak) writes: >>thayne@unislc.slc.unisys.com (Thayne Forbes) writes: >> >>>: As far as Linux, well, you can not really complain because it is free... >> >>>What I meant was it takes a degree in CS just to get the damn thing >>>loaded. It is an example to show the difference between a slick >>>installation and a crappy one. >> >>If you don't like the lack of a slick installation procedure, what are >>you doing with Linux? People who can't hack Unix should stick with >>OS/2 and DOS. > >And people wonder why they sold millions? > >Well, DOS did anyway... > So has OS/2, versions 2.0 & 2.1 anyway... John
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: darcy@solutions.ca (Darcy Brockbank) Subject: Re: Rocks1.8fat.tar requires gunzip? (which is fine) Message-ID: <1993Jul29.143536.17591@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca Organization: McGill University References: <1993Jul29.041212.24205@cs.yale.edu> Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1993 14:35:36 GMT In article <1993Jul29.041212.24205@cs.yale.edu> nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) writes: > In article <88640@ut-emx.uucp> mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (alex) writes: > > I was in the process of installing the Rocks.pkg and discovered that it > could > > not be completed because the installation requires the presense of gunzip > Not only that, but it looks for the program in a hard-coded path, > "/usr/bin/gunzip", so if like us you prefer to install such things in > /usr/local/bin you'll need to make a link. > > Pretty shabby. Well, if this package is a FAT binary, then it can only be run on 3.1 systems. If you are running it on a 3.1 system, the same system can be used for installation. Since NeXT ships gunzip and gzip (and they do reside in /usr/bin) there will never be a problem for anyone installing the package. - db
From: shenton@troll.gsfc.nasa.gov (Chris Shenton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,alt.fan.bill-gates,comp.os.linux Subject: Re: From your friends at UNIXWorld Date: 29 Jul 1993 15:05:53 GMT Organization: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center Distribution: world,happynet Message-ID: <SHENTON.93Jul29110554@troll.gsfc.nasa.gov> References: <1993Jul16.210211.21253@Princeton.EDU> <2321s7$8a9@ionews.io.org> <1993Jul27.152409.20253@unislc.slc.unisys.com> <1993Jul28.071054.24227@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> <23794r$7r7@nwfocus.wa.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-reply-to: danubius@halcyon.com's message of 28 Jul 1993 18:28:59 -0700 In article <1993Jul28.071054.24227@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> abulhak@nyx.cs.du.edu (Andrew_-_Bulhak) writes: > >If you don't like the lack of a slick installation procedure, what are > >you doing with Linux? People who can't hack Unix should stick with > >OS/2 and DOS. In article <23794r$7r7@nwfocus.wa.com> danubius@halcyon.com (Joseph R. Pannon) responds: > That's one of the silliest arguments I've read in this group. How is > one to learn to be a Unix hacker if he already has to be one to install > a Unix? There isn't anything to install for DOS: it's a non-OS. (The argument I can hear people composing right now is: ``oh yeah? then how do you explain the millions of copies they've sold?''. Sounds like justifying that McDonalds must be the best food in the world: 90 billion sold :-) DOS doesn't have anywhere near the size or complexity of UNIX/Linux. Therefore, it's not got the configuration hassles associated with UNIX/Linux. I've installed Linux a couple times, and a variety of UNIXes: SunOS, Apollo DomainOS, and Interactive Systems 386. The SLS installation was much less painfull than Interactive's or Apollo's, and only slightly harder than the Sun. My gratitude to the Linux and SLS folks! All complex OS's, though, need substantial configuration to tailor them to your environment, eg: your mailer gateway and UUCP/SLIP, networking, nameserver, user accounts, etc; these things don't even exist on DOS. There are a few minor SLS annoyances like file permissions and config file locations, but Linux is maturing. The recent announcements of tools to check and fix these type of problems is encouraging. Realize that commercial UNIXes have some of these problems too! I have no doubt that Windoze EmpTy will have it's share of configuration nightmares; unfortunate, the users won't have the wealth of knowledge to draw on as Linux users do from the UNIX community. > You obviously haven't the foggiest where many of the Linux enthusiasts > are coming from. It's from the DOS world for whom the installation has > to be something they find familiar from there. SLS is a step toward > that, but it's not quite there yet. DOS users: glad to see so many of you getting into a real OS; it great to see the enthusiasm. It's encumbent on you, however, to learn the UNIX stuff yourself -- the stuff that's not specific to Linux. The Linux newsgroups should concentrate on linux issues, not how to program csh, create undelete aliases, etc... (Plug for the O'Reilly books :-) That way, Linux can mature faster, become stable, and therefore get rid of more of the installation and configuration problems... Ciao! -- -- Chris.Shenton@gsfc.nasa.gov -- Vox 301-286-7905 -- Fax 301-286-5152 --
From: peterk@pknms.toppoint.de (Peter Kretzschmar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: EXTRA large bitmaps and NXImage Distribution: world Message-ID: <743968532peterk.postmast@pknms.toppoint.de> Sender: postmast@pknms.toppoint.de Date: Thu, 29 Jul 93 17:55:32 GMT Organization: private site Dear world, during the last days, i have installed NS Intel on my PC. I have had a try to port our OS/2 application to the great new platform, but, im running into big problems. Our application analyses very big scanned image (OCR, vectorization...) My problem is, that i can not display the images on screen. I've downloaded sample applications from ftp.next.com and sonata to find out, how to display tiff images on NS. All these apps (including the AppSoft Image.app from the Demo CD) are unable to handle my large tiff-files. I can inspect the files from workspace, prewiew displays them awfully slow, but it can display and zoom the files. I've coded a little app to display the images, using theImage=[NXImage loadFromFile...] and [theImage compositeTo...] I can display images smaller then 3000*3000*1 (1 bit depth) but when i try my large (greater 15000*15000*1) images, nothing's going on. I've tryed theBitmap=[NXBitmapImageRep:loadFromFile] theImage=[NXImage alloc] init] [theImage useRepresentation:theBitmap] ... For 'small' images, all seems to be ok, but when i try to load my big tiff's, nothing.... Now the questions, who can help ?? where can i find sample applications ?? is there another way to composite parts of large images to the sceen ?? hopefully Peter PS: my largest image is 1500*1000 mm, scanned with 500 dpi unpacked ~30000*20000*1 ->40MB -- Peter Kretzschmar +49 4321 41471 peterk@pknms.toppoint.de Grossflecken 54 24534 Neumuenster GERMANY
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc From: shiva@vega.Stanford.EDU (Marcos Javier Polanco) Subject: Sybase + NS3.0 Message-ID: <1993Jul29.181741.20615@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: DSO, Stanford University Date: Thu, 29 Jul 93 18:17:41 GMT Hello, My friend is about to upgrade to 3.0, but is worried about problems he may encounter running Sybase. I know there were some problems with the Administrator application; what were these? are there workarounds? any other caveats? Thanks. -marcos j. polanco -shiva@vega.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: brian@wucs1.wustl.edu (Brian) Subject: Re: Rocks1.8fat.tar requires gunzip? (which is fine) Message-ID: <1993Jul29.184752.12039@wuecl.wustl.edu> Sender: usenet@wuecl.wustl.edu (News Administrator) Organization: Washington University, School of Engineering, St. Louis MO References: <1993Jul29.143536.17591@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1993 18:47:52 GMT In article <1993Jul29.143536.17591@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> darcy@solutions.ca (Darcy Brockbank) writes: > Well, if this package is a FAT binary, then it can only be run on 3.1 > systems. If you are running it on a 3.1 system, the same system can > be used for installation. > > Since NeXT ships gunzip and gzip (and they do reside in /usr/bin) there > will never be a problem for anyone installing the package. Actually, you are wrong. Although it is a FAT binary, I am able to run it just fine on my NS 3.0 cube. I am not sure what the FAT format is, but I have been able to run several of the FAT binaries that have been posted on the ftp sites. In anycase, they way I fixed it was to go into the Rocks package and edit the runinstall script, or whatever it was called, and I replaced '/usr/bin/gunzip' with '/usr/local/bin/gunzip' and then re-did the install. That way, I don't mess up the system with random links. But I do agree that it is gross to run the progam from the hardcoded directory. brian
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Neil Greene <neil@kynug.org> Subject: Re: Multiuser flat-file databases, anyone? Message-ID: <1993Jul29.142235.29506@kynug.org> Sender: neil@kynug.org (Neil Greene) Organization: Kentucky NEXTSTEP User Group, Inc. References: <137083@netnews.upenn.edu> Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1993 14:22:35 GMT In article <137083@netnews.upenn.edu> anstine@uniblab.sas.upenn.edu (David Anstine) writes: > I need something like DataPhile, but with multi-user capability, for some > (very) simple databasing. Any suggestions? I think we all do. I think your next solution would be to move on up to Gupta's SQL database, you could even get it with Parabase if I am not mistaken. Is that deal still available?? Of course your next move would be to move all the way up and over to Oracle/Sybase on an HP. :-) Andrew, any plans to move multi-user capabilty, script language support and/or lookups to DataPhile? -- Neil Greene President, benchMark Developments, Inc. [NeXT VAR] President, Kentucky NeXT User Group, Inc. North American, TIFFany Distributor
From: jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Joseph W Reiss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Larger Terminal in MicroPhone Pro? Date: 29 Jul 1993 15:30:36 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <238qes$r62@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Hello, I just purchased MPPro about a week or so ago. I've been using it since, and I like what I see. The only problem is that prior to using MP, I was using Stuart and tip. I'd grown used to the nice 80x72 character terminal window. MP limits you to 80x24 (or 132x24, but that's not very helpful for me either). Has anyone managed some kind of hack to get MicroPhone to give a bigger terminal? What are the chances of this being builtin to future releases? As things stand right now, this is the only thing that is keeping me from thoroughly enjoying this program. Joe P.S.: Has anyone else had problems submitting to the MicroPhone mailing list? Has anyone gotten any messages from it recently? -- __________ | NeXTMail accepted, but not preferred | |___) | """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" \_/OE | \EISS | BORG ARE IRRELEVENT!!! <Hey, wait a minute.> <That's `---- | not right.> <Okay, who switched the scripts?>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dgursky@nextsrv1.andi.org (David Gursky) Subject: Digital Librarian woes... Message-ID: <dgursky.743974549@news.andi.org> Summary: Can only search online documentation completely on some NeXTs Keywords: Digital Librarian Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1993 19:35:49 GMT I've been struggling with a problem Digital Librarian has been giving me for some time now. I am unable to search the contents of /NextLibrary/Documentation (this includes the man pages, NeXT's online documentation, etc.) with any completeness on one of our NeXTs from my own user ID, but I can do it from root. On another of our NeXTs, it works just fine. [One is a NextStation Turbo Color, the other is a plain NextStation. Both are running 3.0] I've replaced the man pages directory, the index files, even Librarian.app on the errant machine to no avail. I've looked in the FAQ, Gopher, and Next Answers for anything resembling this problem and not come up with anything. Any net-readers have suggestions? David M. Gursky NeXTMail accepted Synex, Inc. e-mail: dgursky@nextsrv1.andi.org 5950 Symphony Woods Road voice: ............ (301) 621-5732 Columbia, MD 21044 fax: .............. (301) 621-6005
From: buckley@mayo.edu (Paul Buckley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Rocks1.8fat.tar requires gunzip? (which is fine) Date: 29 Jul 1993 15:58:48 GMT Organization: Mayo Foundation Message-ID: <238s3o$gk@fermat.mayo.edu> References: <1993Jul29.143536.17591@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> >Well, if this package is a FAT binary, then it can only be run on 3.1 >systems. If you are running it on a 3.1 system, the same system can >be used for installation. Not necessarily so. We're running a couple of fat apps on 3.0 black (but we haven't tried out the new Rocks) -Paul
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Rocks1.8fat.tar requires gunzip? (which is fine) Date: 29 Jul 1993 14:00:11 -0400 Organization: Digital Fix Development Distribution: world Message-ID: <23937b$4dr@digifix.digifix.com> References: <238s3o$gk@fermat.mayo.edu> Paul Buckley writes > >Well, if this package is a FAT binary, then it can only be run on 3.1 > >systems. If you are running it on a 3.1 system, the same system can > >be used for installation. > > Not necessarily so. We're running a couple of fat apps on 3.0 black (but we > haven't tried out the new Rocks) > I believe the problem with fat binaries was trying to load fat bundles under 3.0. Not running FAT apps under 3.0. -- - Scott Anguish - sanguish@digifix.com (NextMail) next-announce@digifix.com (comp.sys.next.announce submissions)
From: darcy@solutions.ca (Darcy Brockbank) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Rocks1.8fat.tar requires gunzip? (which is fine) Date: 29 Jul 1993 20:47:35 GMT Organization: School of Computer Science, McGill U, Montreal Message-ID: <239d17$n7e@homer.cs.mcgill.ca> References: <1993Jul29.184752.12039@wuecl.wustl.edu> In article <1993Jul29.184752.12039@wuecl.wustl.edu> brian@wucs1.wustl.edu (Brian) writes: > In article <1993Jul29.143536.17591@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> darcy@solutions.ca > (Darcy Brockbank) writes: > > Well, if this package is a FAT binary, then it can only be run on 3.1 > > systems. If you are running it on a 3.1 system, the same system can > > be used for installation. > > > > Since NeXT ships gunzip and gzip (and they do reside in /usr/bin) there > > will never be a problem for anyone installing the package. > > Actually, you are wrong. Although it is a FAT binary, I am able to run it > just fine on my NS 3.0 cube. I am not sure what the FAT format is, but I > have been able to run several of the FAT binaries that have been posted on > the ftp sites. > Be careful! The fact that you happened to be able to run a particular piece of 3.1 software on 3.0 is NOT A FEATURE OF 3.1. In fact, you will run the risk of data corruption, and application crashes in some cases since those 3.1 apps were developed with 3.1 shared libraries, and 3.1 development kits (which may not be compatible, or may introduce new objects, or may have fixed bugs which allow the app to run smoothly in 3.1, but terminate it on 3.0). This doesn't pose much of a problem for games, but for applications for which people expect to do serious work, it isn't really something they should mess with. - db
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: lorinr@altsys.com (Lorin Rivers III) Subject: Re: Adobe Illustrator on Black NeXTSTEP Message-ID: <1993Jul29.175333.24228@altsys.com> Organization: Altsys Corporation, Richardson, TX References: <austinCAu2Ct.88t@netcom.com> <1993Jul27.175018.3523@news.uta.edu> Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1993 17:53:33 GMT In article <1993Jul27.175018.3523@news.uta.edu> patrick@wbar.uta.edu (Patrick Phillips) writes: >In article <austinCAu2Ct.88t@netcom.com> austin@netcom.com (Tony Austin) >writes: >> : > Is there a version of Adobe Illustrator later than 3.0.1 in >> : > existence? >> : 3.0.1 is the current shipping version. >> I suspect that it will not be upgraded to 4.0 either. What a >> shame too. I bought my NEXT because of Adobe illustrator. > >About a year ago I reported a few (apparently known) bugs that showed up >in Illustrator as soon as I started using it (mostly to do with page >layout and printing). The support people took my name and told me that >they were going to release a bug fix upgrade in the next month or so. >That didn't even make it out the door. I use Illustrator all the time and >like it alot, but I think that we got left holding the bag on this one. > >Patrick Phillips >University of Texas at Arlington >patrick@wbar.uta.edu (NeXTMail) >phil@decster.uta.edu Altsys is firm in our committment to NEXTSTEP and we continue to develop our Best-of-Breed award winning graphics software, Virtuoso. We will release the FAT version of Virtuoso soon and are working on version 2.0 as well. Best of all (for you Illustrator users) is that Virtuoso saves and edits files in .ai format as well as native and FreeHand formats, enabling you to keep using the files you've been creating for some time. Thanks, -- Lorin Rivers Lorin_Rivers@altsys.com NEXTSTEP Sales Manager 214.680.2518 269 W. Renner Parkway NeXT Mail Expected Richardson, Texas 75080 I said it, not my boss
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,alt.fan.bill-gates,comp.os.linux From: turner@ug.cs.dal.ca (Shane Turner) Subject: Re: From your friends at UNIXWorld Message-ID: <CAy759.Bqy@cs.dal.ca> Sender: usenet@cs.dal.ca (USENET News) Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada References: <1993Jul27.152409.20253@unislc.slc.unisys.com> <1993Jul28.071054.24227@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> <CAwIxs.B6@victrola.wa.com> Distribution: world,happynet Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1993 22:43:56 GMT In article <CAwIxs.B6@victrola.wa.com> vince@victrola.wa.com (Vince Skahan) writes: >abulhak@nyx.cs.du.edu (Andrew_-_Bulhak) writes: >>thayne@unislc.slc.unisys.com (Thayne Forbes) writes: > >>>: As far as Linux, well, you can not really complain because it is free... > >>>What I meant was it takes a degree in CS just to get the damn thing >>>loaded. It is an example to show the difference between a slick >>>installation and a crappy one. > >you must speak a different variant of english. > >I installed mcc-interim linux in one try with *barely* skimming the >documentation. It was certainly simpler to install than building a >DOS5.0 system with MS-Windows when you spend your whole day fighting >config.sys to loadhi. > >I've also installed SLS in one try with *no* documentation. >How simple are you looking for it to get ? > >-- > ---------- Vince Skahan --------- vince@victrola.wa.com ------------- > Seattle - where sunshine doesn't... > This is the first mention I've seen of the MCC distribution I've seen in a while. I have to say I found it much easier to install than SLS, cleaner, and without all of the baggage that you get with SLS. I do have to admit that the SLS distribution is very comprehensive, but it also tends toward the over- whelming. I strongly suggest the MCC distribution to anyone new to Linux. The documentation is very well done and is a great help (provided you read decide to read it :) Ciao, Shane Turner -------------------------------- turner@ug.cs.dal.ca <-- school sturner@atrgmo.agr.ca <-- work
From: matthews@is-next.umd.edu (Mike Matthews) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: SoftPC demo in NS/FIP ?? Date: 30 Jul 1993 00:17:04 GMT Organization: University Of Maryland, College Park, MD Message-ID: <239pa0$6a2@umd5.umd.edu> References: <1993Jul26.172545.1@fnalnn.fnal.gov> <1993Jul28.034821.4450@rbc.uucp> In article <1993Jul28.034821.4450@rbc.uucp> davis@ee.rochester.edu writes: >adunn@fnalnn.fnal.gov writes >The best so far is Sun's Wabi. It still works pretty bad but is so much >better than anything else that it alone might be a reason to buy Solaris over >Nextstep. Now there's a good laugh. If you're so intent on running PC software, then I really think you should just get a PC and run DOS on it. NeXT is not in the game to be a better DOS machine. ------ Mike Matthews, matthewm@sgate.com (NeXTmail accepted) ------ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, and he'll invite himself over for dinner. - Calvin Keegan
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,alt.fan.bill-gates,comp.os.linux From: thayne@unislc.slc.unisys.com (Thayne Forbes) Subject: Re: From your friends at UNIXWorld References: <1993Jul16.210211.21253@Princeton.EDU> <1993Jul23.144123.18893@pencom.com> <1993Jul24.165535.3109@unislc.slc.unisys.com> <22tbmo$ecp@cmcl2.NYU.EDU> <2321s7$8a9@ionews.io.org> <1993Jul27.152409.20253@unislc.slc.unisys.com> <1993Jul28.071054.24227@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> <CAwIxs.B6@victrola.wa.com> Message-ID: <1993Jul30.004755.28026@unislc.slc.unisys.com> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,alt.fan.bill-gates,comp.os.linux Organization: HomeVax Distribution: world,happynet Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1993 00:47:55 GMT Vince Skahan (vince@victrola.wa.com) wrote: : abulhak@nyx.cs.du.edu (Andrew_-_Bulhak) writes: : >thayne@unislc.slc.unisys.com (Thayne Forbes) writes: : >>: As far as Linux, well, you can not really complain because it is free... : >>What I meant was it takes a degree in CS just to get the damn thing : >>loaded. It is an example to show the difference between a slick : >>installation and a crappy one. : you must speak a different variant of english. : I installed mcc-interim linux in one try with *barely* skimming the : documentation. It was certainly simpler to install than building a : DOS5.0 system with MS-Windows when you spend your whole day fighting : config.sys to loadhi. : I've also installed SLS in one try with *no* documentation. : How simple are you looking for it to get ? Hey Vince. Bite me. I distinctly remember you writing to me for advice and help loading Linux last February. Would it help you if I dredged up the old E-mail and posted it? And while we are at it. What does it say about you if you are having trouble loading a OS like DOS? Hell I know of retail stores that have twelve year old kids loading it.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: kurt@frsvnsvn.cts.com (Kurt Werle) Subject: EPS viewer wanted Message-ID: <1993Jul30.012442.15154@frsvnsvn.cts.com> Summary: Want to view EPS Organization: little to none Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1993 01:24:42 GMT I would like to view .eps files. Previewer don't seem to cut it (it does not get the bounding box right). I'd really like to zoom in/out, scroll, etc. Does this exist? Free? Please reply via EMAIL, Thanks, Kurt
From: bill@alamut.cognet.ucla.edu (William M. Eldridge) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Rocks1.8fat.tar requires gunzip? Date: 29 Jul 1993 21:12:43 -0700 Organization: UCLA Cognitive Science Research Program Message-ID: <23a73r$bf0@alamut.cognet.ucla.edu> References: <88640@ut-emx.uucp> >forth. Please folks, dont' assume that everyone has everything already on >could at least let people know or even include the decompression program (GNU I do like Rocks but I don't look forward to having to search >the net to find gunzip and all that. Since compress is proprietary, and gzip/gunzip is not, it does make sense to use it. Since it gets files down to 1/2 to 1/10 the size of compress, it makes sense to use it. Since it, like all the other GNU stuff, can be found at prep.ai.mit.edu, most people who know GNU stuff know where to find it. Since it takes up 100K as a binary, it doesn't make sense to copy it for each distribution. Since most people using Unix systems have C compilers, it's very easy to compile for most people. What you might ask someone at cs.orst or sonata to do is to keep a binary of the Next version in their archives. Or else you might post and ask someone to send you the binaries. I don't think gzip is so rare to warrant it being included everytime somebody puts something in an archive. It would make more sense that everyone use it for posting to archives so that there's more room for other stuff. -- Bill Eldridge bill@cognet.ucla.edu 310-206-3960 (3987 fax) More! Better! Faster! (80's motto) x x x x Hot, Toxic, and Shallow! (90's motto) x xx x x Free Rorschach Sig! (interpretation extra) x xx xx x
From: kkoym@pencom.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: BTrieve DBKit Adaptor Keywords: BTrieve DBKit Adaptor Message-ID: <1993Jul27.185006.9260@pencom.com> Date: 27 Jul 93 18:50:06 GMT Sender: usenet@pencom.com (Usenet Pseudo User) Organization: Pencom Software Hello All, Has anyone seen any news on a BTrieve DBKit Adaptor using Netware on the NeXT with DBKit? Drop me a line if you have, or call me directly. Thanks, Kevin Koym Pencom Software 800.PENCOM4
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: aris@mundoe.maths.mu.OZ.AU ( Aris Theocharides ) Subject: Multi Platform Binaries Message-ID: <aris.744013745@mundoe> Keywords: NeXT, Intel, NeXTSTEP Sender: news@cs.mu.OZ.AU Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1993 06:29:05 GMT Just by the was of interest (mine, and considerable investment in black hardware already...).... Am I right in thinking that: 1. It will be no problem to create MPB for Intel/Motorola/Other NS machines? 2. The limiting factor in usuability of a machine will be whether there is the OS release for it? EG: There will be a time that NeXTSTEP > 3.2 will not be available for black hardware. Any projections how far this is off? This is interesting because the Motorola 33MHz chips should be good/fast enough to run the next generaltion of OS's...I mean it runs NS 3.0, and one would expect it to run 4.x as well, no? I hope that NeXTstep will be around for all ports, until for some really good reason the OS release will not run well in the projected configuration. For black hardware this could be 32Mb RAM, 400 MB HDD (although buying RAM and HD shouldn't cost the earth comparitively). I guess speed is the principal thing. But I also assume that shear volume will mean that black hardware will be dumped at the end of 3.x :-( Aris Theocharides <aris@maths.mu.OZ.AU> name: aris theocharides. address: room g63, maths dept, melb uni, parkville, vic, australia, 3052. phone [+613] uni: 344.46.20, home: 489.90.14, fax: 344.45.99
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: aris@mundoe.maths.mu.OZ.AU ( Aris Theocharides ) Subject: Multi Platform Binaries Message-ID: <9321116.17489@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> Sender: news@cs.mu.OZ.AU Organization: Department of Mathematics, University of Melbourne Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1993 06:57:49 GMT Just by the was of interest (mine, and considerable investment in black hardware already...).... Am I right in thinking that: 1. It will be no problem to create MPB for Intel/Motorola/Other NS machines? 2. The limiting factor in usuability of a machine will be whether there is the OS release for it? EG: There will be a time that NeXTSTEP > 3.2 will not be available for black hardware. Any projections how far this is off? This is interesting because the Motorola 33MHz chips should be good/fast enough to run the next generation of OS's...I mean it runs NS 3.0, and one would expect it to run 4.x as well, no? I hope that NeXTstep will be around for all ports, until for some really good reason the OS release will not run well in the projected configuration. For black hardware this could be 32Mb RAM, 400 MB HDD (although buying RAM and HD shouldn't cost the earth comparitively). I guess speed is the principal thing. But I also assume that shear volume will mean that black hardware will be dumped at the end of 3.x :-( Aris Theocharides <aris@maths.mu.OZ.AU> name: aris theocharides. address: room g63, maths dept, melb uni, parkville, vic, australia, 3052. phone [+613] uni: 344.46.20, home: 489.90.14, fax: 344.45.99
From: jhj@daimi.aau.dk (Jens H|rup Jensen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: 600 dpi TeX-fonts Date: 30 Jul 1993 07:17:20 GMT Organization: DAIMI, Computer Science Dept. at Aarhus University Message-ID: <23ahu0$1n0@belfort.daimi.aau.dk> Summary: Where can I find 600dpi fonts for TeX Keywords: 600dpi TeX LaTeX Somewhere I have read, that it is possible to get 600dpi fonts for TeX and LaTeX for the NeXT computer. Does anybody know a ftp-site where these fonts can be obtained. Thanks in advance -- Jens Hoerup Jensen Denmark
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: m@BlueRose.com (M Carling) Subject: Re: SYBASE Woes (was Re: Sybase database available for NSFIP?) Message-ID: <1993Jul29.234731.395@BlueRose.com> Sender: m@BlueRose.com Organization: Blue Rose Systems, Inc. References: <1993Jul28.184513.7935@crash> Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1993 23:47:31 GMT In article <1993Jul28.184513.7935@crash> coconut@crash.cts.com (Brian Dear) writes: > We considered getting Sybase but are now thinking such a move would be > ill-advised. We're now thinking Quickbase. Parabase sounds nice, but doesn't > it need Sybase? If Parabase is standalone then it's a contender. Ideal > case: a database server and client setup that can run in NS3.1 on both > NeXT and Intel machines, and is _supported_ by its vendor. Any hope? Parabase interoperates with (in addition to Sybase): Gupta's SQLserver and, soon, Rosebase. Parabase supports Gupta's SQLserver (which they ported), and we support Rosebase (which we wrote for NEXTSTEP from scratch). Both run on black and white hardware. M Carling President, Blue Rose Systems, Inc.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mark@xexos.com (Mark Chamberlain) Subject: Re: The Second Annual Mesa Party Message-ID: <1993Jul27.102001.23612@xexos.com> Sender: news@xexos.com Organization: Xexos, Ltd (London) References: <1993Jul25.192814.3099@FreemanSoft.com> Distribution: usa Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1993 10:20:01 GMT In article <1993Jul25.192814.3099@FreemanSoft.com> joe@FreemanSoft.com (Joe Freeman) writes: > In article <22gujt$1k3@hermes.athena.com> dpp@athena.com (David Pollak) > writes: > > > > > On August 4, 1992, Athena Design released Mesa. In the year since its > > introduction, Athena Design has upgraded Mesa 5 times > > Its not clear that doing 5 upgrades in a year is something to crow about. > That has some unpleasent implications with reguards to testing and qa. Updates: Bug fixes, revisions etc. Bad to have a lot of them. Upgrades: Enhanced functionality, new features. Changes in features in response to user demands once in the field. Very Good to have them. Even better to give them to existing users. Shows that you listen. -- Mark Chamberlain +44 71 237 4535 Xexos Ltd fax +44 71 231 0844 London mark@xexos.com
From: fischedj@ NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (David J. Fischer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Need suggestions for NS/FIP software (LONG) Date: 29 Jul 1993 16:26:10 GMT Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology Message-ID: <238tn2$a4@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu> Salutations, I have recently ordered a Gateway computer on which to run NS/FIP. While waiting for it to arrive, I am looking for NS/FIP software to purchase or grab from an archive. I hope to find software with student (edu) prices of < $200. I love edu prices < $50 and shareware/freeware from the net is even better. In my search, I have been testing demo software on the ThirdParty CDROM on a 3.1 NeXT machine and I'll give some comments on what I have seen. I would be appreciate if anyone could suggest some software along these lines: Spreadsheet: I am looking for a Quattro Pro like app. Improv utterly fails by not providing scatter plots. Appsoft's's Solution fails by not providing useful scatter plotting nor fitting functions. Athena Design's Mesa fails by not providing fitting functions, and the interface is still unpolished (as compared to Solution). Also, Solution and Mesa are sluggish when navigating by keyboard. If nothing presents itself I will use Quattro Pro in DOS (ick). Mathematics: I have used MAPLE quite a lot, and Mathematica a small bit. I will get Mathematica if it has a reasonable price ($995 isn't reasonable; $200 is), though I prefer MAPLE. Any other tools out there? Also, if I can't find a spreadsheet with solid data analysis functions I will need another app to do that. MAPLE and Mathematica could do that. Is there any other sort of tool for data analysis? If nothing presents itself I will use MAPLE in DOS (ycuk) Word Processor: Edit meets ~80% of my needs. What I need beyond that is something with which to write scientific papers. This usually requires tiff/eps importing, a powerful equation editor, and page layout controls for making presentation overheads. FrameMaker (on 2.1 NeXTs) has met that need extremely well, but rumor is that Frame won't be ported to NS/FIP. Any suggestions? If nothing presents itself I will use MS-Word for Windows in Windows (ugh). Image Editing: This would be a toy for me. I have played with Appsoft's Image and Pinnacle's WetPaint. Both seem robust and intuitive. What's best? (Or is there something better?) I have also toyed with Appsoft's Perspective. Neat. If it is cheap enough I would also buy it to play around with. Drawing: Draw has met my needs well in the past for making simple charts of laboratory setups for school-work/research. I am now considering buying a more robust package. LightHouse Design's Diagram is powerful, but it seems more for organizational charting than drawing. Could I make an optics palette (that's what I study) with Laser, Lens, and Mirror objects? What about Appsoft's Draw -- is it a stable, powerful package? Telecommunications: Is there is anything to utilize a modem? This doesn't convcern me much now, but I know others who want this support as soon as they get NS/FIP installed. I have heard of SLiPCommander (sp?), but beyond that I am completely ignorant on the topic. Misc: I am always open to new and nifty apps, but the general productivity apps I have seen (Engage!, DarkForest, NoteBook, TaskMaster) don't serve any useful purpose for me. (If I had them, I'd use them. Without them I cope just fine) Pinnacle's VirtSpace is an exception. On a 800x600 NS/FIP display, I think this will be immensely useful. Are there any other "Gotta have it" apps out there? Games: If I want games, I'll probably buy a SNES, or King's Quest type games for DOS. But hey, maybe there is something worthwhile on the NeXT. Don't say Rocks!; $50 for Asteroids is too much. Thanks for your suggestions. I will post a summary. -- David J. Fischer : fischedj@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu "What's more important, the plays of Shakespeare or the quill he used to write them down? If he'd used a mission critical custom quill with built-in spell checker, would his plays have been any better? " -- Dave Griffiths (in response to a NeXT advocate on c.s.n.m)
From: aehall@calvin.seattleu.edu (OUTTA HERE!) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,alt.fan.bill-gates,comp.os.linux Subject: Re: From your friends at UNIXWorld Date: 29 Jul 1993 16:27:30 GMT Organization: Lasciate ogni speranza, voi que entrate. Distribution: world,happynet Message-ID: <238tpi$gu@bach.seattleu.edu> References: <1993Jul28.071054.24227@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> <23794r$7r7@nwfocus.wa.com> <SHENTON.93Jul29110554@troll.gsfc.nasa.gov> In article <SHENTON.93Jul29110554@troll.gsfc.nasa.gov> shenton@troll.gsfc.nasa.gov (Chris Shenton) writes: >There are a few minor SLS annoyances like file permissions and config >file locations, but Linux is maturing. The recent announcements of >tools to check and fix these type of problems is encouraging. Realize >that commercial UNIXes have some of these problems too! For file permission problems, you should check out the program (bash script actually) that I just uploaded to sunsite (/pub/Linux/Incoming/fixperms.tar.z). Fixperms will read a file that contains a list of files and their respective permissions/owner/group. It will then set the listed files with their proper permissions. This would have come in handy if a package like mail or lpd came with a permissions list. I know it took me a while to mess with the suid and sgid permissions for lpr and mail. Anthony -- Anthony Hall _ _ Unix System Administrator aehall@seattleu.edu /_/ /_/ Physician Micro Systems, Inc. _ _ 2033 6th Ave Suite 707 /_/ /_/ Seattle, WA 98122 206-441-8490
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,alt.fan.bill-gates,comp.os.linux From: wade@nb.rockwell.com (Wade Guthrie) Subject: Re: From your friends at UNIXWorld Message-ID: <wade.743961072@drexler> Organization: Rockwell International References: <1993Jul16.210211.21253@Princeton.EDU> <2321s7$8a9@ionews.io.org> <1993Jul27.152409.20253@unislc.slc.unisys.com> <1993Jul28.071054.24227@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> <23794r$7r7@nwfocus.wa.com> Distribution: world,happynet Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1993 15:51:12 GMT danubius@halcyon.com (Joseph R. Pannon) writes: >In article <1993Jul28.071054.24227@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> abulhak@nyx.cs.du.edu (Andrew_-_Bulhak) writes: >>If you don't like the lack of a slick installation procedure, what are >>you doing with Linux? People who can't hack Unix should stick with >>OS/2 and DOS. >That's one of the silliest arguments I've read in this group. How is >one to learn to be a Unix hacker if he already has to be one to install >a Unix? You're right, that's a silly argument. On the other hand, one doesn't have to be a Unix hack to install Linux -- you just have to have the courage to *TRY*. During the installation process, the hardest times I had were doing the research (through the various FAQs) to be sure I wasn't going to screw something up. The software (SLS, I don't remember the version) installed just fine and I didn't destroy any of my existing stuff. >You obviously haven't the foggiest where many of the Linux enthusiasts >are coming from. It's from the DOS world for whom the installation has >to be something they find familiar from there. SLS is a step toward >that, but it's not quite there yet. Man, what do you want from *FREE* software? I think what's there is WONDERFUL! One should expect to devote a little do-it-yourself effort when installing something that's free. Linux has the disadvantage that it's TOO GOOD. It looks too much like commercial software; so, when people see it, they get upset that it doesn't look *more* like commercial software. If I paid for it, I would agree with everyone else -- it needs some work. For free software, it is an outrageously awesome system!!! >I feel that for a full acceptance of Linux a working QIC40/80 driver for >tape drives common in the DOS world is also essential. Jeez. This is FREE SOFTWARE. If you want a QIC40/80 driver, WRITE ONE AND CONTRIBUTE IT. This is not a producer/consumer community; it's an everyone-gets-together-and-helps-out-his-neighbor sort of group. Besides, the timing issues of a QIC40/80 driver are difficult (if not impossible) to resolve in a multi-user non-real-time system. -- Wade Guthrie | Trying to program on MS-DOS is like trying wade@nb.rockwell.com | to shave with a chain-saw. Me be not speaking for the Rock. |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: patrick@wbar.uta.edu (Patrick Phillips) Subject: Re: Adobe Illustrator on Black NeXTSTEP Message-ID: <1993Jul30.134913.4977@news.uta.edu> Sender: news@news.uta.edu (USENET News System) Organization: University of Texas at Arlington References: <1993Jul29.175333.24228@altsys.com> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1993 13:49:13 GMT In article <1993Jul29.175333.24228@altsys.com> lorinr@altsys.com (Lorin Rivers III) writes: > Altsys is firm in our committment to NEXTSTEP and we continue to > develop our Best-of-Breed award winning graphics software, Virtuoso. There is no question that, unless and until RightBrain gets something going with Illustrator, this is the only way to go. The real question is, do you offer any kind of trade in program for Illustrator owners? It cost me > $350 (edu) for Illustrator and it works well enough for my purposes that I can't justify spending extra on Virtuoso. I could be persuaded with some inducements, however :-). Also, don't get me wrong, Illustrator is a great program, it just needs some bug fixes and needs to be better integrated into the NeXT environment. Patrick Phillips Biology Department University of Texas at Arlington patrick@wbar.uta.edu (NeXTMail) phil@decster.uta.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: crao@sangra.ncst.ernet.in (Mr.Sanjay R.Rao) Subject: Re: The best new feature in 3.1 Dev Message-ID: <CAzBJI.4nF@shakti.ncst.ernet.in> Sender: news@shakti.ncst.ernet.in (News account) Organization: National Centre for Software Technology, Bombay, India. References: <CArnx1.1Lq@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> <1993Jul26.174832.10242@leland.Stanford.EDU> <CAsAvr.629@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1993 13:16:30 GMT In article <CAsAvr.629@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> davis@sonata.cc.purdue.edu (Robert Davis) writes: >magnus@fisher.Stanford.EDU (Magnus Nordborg) writes: >>In article <CArnx1.1Lq@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> davis@sonata.cc.purdue.edu >>(Robert Davis) writes: >>> >>> I've just discovered the best new feature of the 3.1 developer >>> extensions: the emacs distribution includes the yow.lines. Type >>> "/usr/lib/emacs/etc/yow" in a terminal window. Repeat ad infinitum. >>> >> >>M-x yow works too. This didn't use to work!? > > In previous releases everything was in place except the file >of quotes, which I grabbed from prep.ai.mit.edu or somewhere. This >time, when I upgraded to 3.1, I was surprised to find that the only >file conflict I had was yow.lines -- Upgrade.app was trying to add it >to the filesystem. > > >>Horror! Try M-x doctor, M-x dissociated-press and M-x hanoi for more >>serious stuff. > > Yes, we are definitely interactive now. > > >Am I SHOPLIFTING? >Rob >-- >| Robert Davis davis@sonata.cc.purdue.edu >| "Look up, Hannah." NeXT Mail accepted >-- this is just a demo. please ignore it. thanks.
From: dpp@athena.com (David Pollak) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: The Second Annual Mesa Party Date: 29 Jul 1993 15:28:05 GMT Organization: Athena Design, Inc. Distribution: usa Message-ID: <238qa5$tk@hermes.athena.com> References: <1993Jul25.192814.3099@FreemanSoft.com> In article <1993Jul25.192814.3099@FreemanSoft.com> joe@FreemanSoft.com (Joe Freeman) writes: > In article <22gujt$1k3@hermes.athena.com> dpp@athena.com (David Pollak) > writes: > > > > > On August 4, 1992, Athena Design released Mesa. In the year since its > > introduction, Athena Design has upgraded Mesa 5 times > > Its not clear that doing 5 upgrades in a year is something to crow about. > That has some unpleasent implications with reguards to testing and qa. > But, then I guess you are counting the "first company to release a fat > binary product" which was built on a beta release of the systems tools. > > > -- Joe, It's folks like you who make selling software honestly difficult. Because you used to work at NeXT, there are people within NeXT that respect your opinion. You have just created (I believe with an understanding that you have done so) the perception that Mesa is a buggy product. This was wrong, both from the standpoint of Mesa's robustness (we are only tracking one serious bug in Mesa 1.5) and from the standpoint of being a cooperative member of this small community. We released Mesa a year ago. Terry Brandon from Preferred Health Care (one of Mesa's early supporters) called Mesa, "The most stable beta I have ever used." Mesa has a history of high quality. Yes, Mesa has had bugs. Many of which are due to the AppKit or PostScript, and some of which we have introduced and subsequently fixed. We have tracked and fixed on the order of 200 bugs in the year since Mesa was introduced (compared with almost 1,500 bugs currently being tracked in a popular word processing package). The vast majority of the bugs in Mesa we not "data loss" bugs, but simply problems with display formatting, etc. We have an extensive Q/A procedure including in-house testing followed by distribution to about 50 beta testers (some of whom attract bugs like magnets, Shawn) before final release. Let me tell you about Mesa's releases: AR-1 - August 4, 1992 1.1 - September 4, 1992 - added SQL capabilities, enhanced Object Library, cell shading 1.2 - November 4, 1992 - added 3D graphs 1.3 - January 8, 1993 - added MScript, Excel file read, Patterns 1.4 - March 31, 1993 - First Fat Binary NS app, 20/20 file read, SYLK read & write, Lotus .WK1 write 1.5 - May 21, 1993 - Spreadsheet and Graph palettized objects, enhanced SQL capabilities, interoperability with DataPhile The above list is a short description of the major features added to each version of Mesa. There have been hundreds of minor enhancements, additions to graph types, new functions, etc. that reflected the feedback that we have received from our thousands of customers. We have moved Mesa from being a dark horse in the NEXTSTEP spreadsheet market to the best selling, most powerful NEXTSTEP spreadsheet. We have gone from not even being able to get phone calls returned from our developer advocate at NeXT to having a good relationship with the top folks at NeXT. This is because we have a quality product and back it with quality service. Your comments undermine what we have been building and I find them personally offensive. We have created Mesa and sold it to customers. The early customers can upgrade to the most recent version of Mesa for free. Commercial versions of Mesa come with unlimited technical support. We upgrade and enhance our product to meet market and customer needs. Perhaps you should do some research before being a net-fool. David
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: alberto@parsec.mixcom.com (Alberto Ricart) Subject: Re: Rocks1.8fat.tar requires gunzip? (which is fine) Message-ID: <1993Jul30.041441.710@parsec.mixcom.com> Followup-To: smartsoft@parsec.mixcom.com Organization: SmartSoft, Inc. References: <1993Jul29.184752.12039@wuecl.wustl.edu> <239d17$n7e@homer.cs.mcgill.ca> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1993 04:14:41 GMT (Complaints about Rocks_1.8fat.pkg requiring gunzip and that the installation scripts were "assumed" that gunzip lived in /usr/bin...) [Sorry for not checking this group lately] As previously mentioned Rocks_1.8fat was distributed fat, and thus only intended for machines running 3.1 or above. All 3.1 or above systems DO have gunzip in the directory specified by the script. I wish we didn't have to do such complicated manuvers to distribute Rocks. But with 3.1, sndcompress (or the libraries for soundcompression) introduced a serious bug when doing ATC sound compression. Our sound files became rather large. At one point our alternative was a 3 disk installation package or using gzip for "extra" compression. Anyhow, software grows bigger everyday, and while disks are cheap packaging and the overhead for making them are not. For Rocks, 1.4MB size disk is as big as the package gets (for now anyway). Lately we decided to cheat a bit and our disks are actually DOS formatted giving us about an additional 300K left for more new stuff to fit) What do you think? We are going to post a thin MOTOROLA version, for all of you that have not upgraded yet. (You can call SmartSoft and order a 3.0 version). Later, -- --- Alberto Ricart SmartSoft, Inc. 2220 E. Linnwood Avenue, Milwaukee, WI 53211-3321
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: alberto@parsec.mixcom.com (Alberto Ricart) Subject: Re: Rocks1.8fat.tar requires gunzip? (which is fine) Message-ID: <1993Jul30.133026.499@parsec.mixcom.com> Followup-To: smartsoft@parsec.mixcom.com Organization: SmartSoft, Inc. References: <1993Jul29.184752.12039@wuecl.wustl.edu> <239d17$n7e@homer.cs.mcgill.ca> <1993Jul30.041441.710@parsec.mixcom.com> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1993 13:30:26 GMT The other thing to consinder, is that the NeXT installer (NeXTMail, the file chunker, WSM compress are under this category too) insist in compressing stuff even when the resultant compressed stuff is MUCH MUCH larger than the original file. Even the command line tools will abort the process if they do more damage than good. Newsgroups: smartsoft@parsec.mixcom.com Subject: Re: Rocks1.8fat.tar requires gunzip? (which is fine) References: <1993Jul29.184752.12039@wuecl.wustl.edu> <239d17$n7e@homer.cs.mcgill.ca> <1993Jul30.041441.710@parsec.mixcom.com> Organization: SmartSoft, Inc. The other thing to consinder, is that the NeXT installer (NeXTMail, the file chunker, WSM compress are under this category too) insist in compressing stuff even when the resultant compressed stuff is MUCH MUCH larger than the original file. Even the command line tools will abort the process if they do more damage than good. Makes me wonder... -- --- Alberto Ricart SmartSoft, Inc. 2220 E. Linnwood Avenue, Milwaukee, WI 53211-3321
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc From: chris@socrates.ads.com (Chris Smith) Subject: [Q] Cursor Exploder Program? Message-ID: <1993Jul30.153606.9561@ads.com> Sender: usenet@ads.com (USENET News) Organization: Advanced Decision Systems, Mtn. View, CA (415) 960-7300 Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1993 15:36:06 GMT I am a visually impaired user of NeXT computers, which can be a real challenge (black text on white backgrounds, for example). One of the problems I'm facing right now is that I frequently lose the cursor on the screen; I have to fling the mouse every which way until I can see the bloody pointer again. On the Macintoshes there are a couple of programs which, among other features, offer what is sometimes referred to as a cursor exploding feature. If the user presses a certain key or key combination, a one- or two-inch circle flashes for a second or so around the cursor. Comes in quite handy on large displays! Is there a program available that offers such a feature? If not, how difficult would it be to write one??? Thanks VERY much! ---------------------------------------------------- Christopher A. Smith Consultant, Booz-Allen & Hamilton Inc. Internet: chris@socrates.ads.com
From: npratt@madmax.modsys (Nevin Pratt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Multiuser flat-file databases, anyone? Date: 30 Jul 1993 15:34:51 GMT Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <23bf2r$egi@cnn.sim.es.com> References: <1993Jul29.142235.29506@kynug.org> In article 29506@kynug.org, Neil Greene <neil@kynug.org> () writes: > I think we all do. I think your next solution would be to move on up to > Gupta's SQL database, you could even get it with Parabase if I am not > mistaken. Is that deal still available?? Of course your next move would > be to move all the way up and over to Oracle/Sybase on an HP. :-) How does Gupta's SQL database compare with Quickbase? What are the pro's and con's of each when compared with the other? Anybody have any comments? Also, can you get Gupta *without* buying Parabase? Nevin
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,alt.fan.bill-gates,comp.os.linux From: thayne@unislc.slc.unisys.com (Thayne Forbes) Subject: Re: From your friends at UNIXWorld References: <1993Jul16.210211.21253@Princeton.EDU> <2321s7$8a9@ionews.io.org> <1993Jul27.152409.20253@unislc.slc.unisys.com> <1993Jul28.071054.24227@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> <23794r$7r7@nwfocus.wa.com> <wade.743961072@drexler> Message-ID: <1993Jul30.151758.10206@unislc.slc.unisys.com> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,alt.fan.bill-gates,comp.os.linux Organization: HomeVax Distribution: world,happynet Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1993 15:17:58 GMT Wade Guthrie (wade@nb.rockwell.com) wrote: : danubius@halcyon.com (Joseph R. Pannon) writes: : >In article <1993Jul28.071054.24227@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> abulhak@nyx.cs.du.edu (Andrew_-_Bulhak) writes: : >>If you don't like the lack of a slick installation procedure, what are : >>you doing with Linux? People who can't hack Unix should stick with : >>OS/2 and DOS. : >That's one of the silliest arguments I've read in this group. How is : >one to learn to be a Unix hacker if he already has to be one to install : >a Unix? : You're right, that's a silly argument. : Man, what do you want from *FREE* software? : Linux has the disadvantage that it's TOO GOOD. It looks too much like : commercial software; so, when people see it, they get upset that it : doesn't look *more* like commercial software. Now that is one of the more silly arguments I have seen. I just want good software. Some times I pay for it. Some times I get it free. Some times I write it. BUT. It should always be good and easy to install and use. I said that that is one of the things that I like about Microsoft products. I said that it was a disappointment in Linux. Are you saying that I should pay for Linux before I can bitch, or are you saying that we should all make it worse to install?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: zenon@resonex.com (Zenon Fortuna) Subject: Re: Slpitting large files to DOS disk Message-ID: <1993Jul30.085331.7069@resonex.com> Organization: Resonex Inc., Fremont CA References: <236pfb$nhd@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1993 08:53:31 GMT In article <236pfb$nhd@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu> mcconnap@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Andy McConnell) writes: >I need to split a large (5MB+) file onto several DOS formatted diskettes. The >file then needs to be recombined on a DOS machine. > [some text omitted ...] > ... NeXT->DOS->SCO ... >Andy McConnell mcconnap@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu > Fluid Science Learning Center Developer > CS BS '93 Rose-Hulman Institute Of Technology >"The beaurocratic mentality is the only constant in the universe." One crude method would be to divide the file into, say, 5 chunks and to combine them under SCO to get the original file. Using the Terminal under NeXT to work with shell, you can use "dd" to get the pieces: 1. dd if=big_file of=file1 bs=1024k count=1 dd if=big_file of=file2 bs=1024k count=1 skip=1 dd if=big_file of=file3 bs=1024k count=1 skip=2 dd if=big_file of=file4 bs=1024k count=1 skip=3 dd if=big_file of=file5 bs=1024k count=1 skip=4 etc. 2. put the file1, file2, ... onto DOS diskettes 3. get the file1, file2, ... into SCO filesystem 4. combine the files together using "cat" cat file1 file2 file3 ... > new_big_file (don't forget to remove the pieces ... :)) -Z.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: neil@ms.uky.edu (Neil Greene) Subject: Re: EXTRA large bitmaps and NXImage Message-ID: <CAzGH5.3LM@ms.uky.edu> Organization: Kentucky NeXT User Group, Inc. References: <743968532peterk.postmast@pknms.toppoint.de> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1993 15:03:04 GMT peterk@pknms.toppoint.de (Peter Kretzschmar) writes: >Dear world, >For 'small' images, all seems to be ok, but when i try to load my >big tiff's, nothing.... >Now the questions, > who can help ?? > where can i find sample applications ?? > is there another way to composite parts of large images to the sceen ?? During the expo, we were loading image ranging in size from 50-100 megabytes into TIFFany on a NeXTStation color 25Mhz system with 32M ram. Things worked fine. If anyone would like a free demo of TIFFany, send email to info@bmd.com and we will send you a disk. TIFFany II is now in beta with improved performance.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: hussain@artsci.wustl.edu (G. H. Chinoy) Subject: monitoring program Message-ID: <1993Jul30.185945.9791@wuecl.wustl.edu> Sender: usenet@wuecl.wustl.edu (News Administrator) Organization: Washington University, School of Engineering, St. Louis MO Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1993 18:59:45 GMT I was wondering if anyone had a NeXT.app or unix program that could organize finger/w/who info (or any other info) so that system administrators could glance at who's logged in & what's going on on their net? Anyone have any clues? -- ________________________________ G. H. Chinoy hussain@artsci.wustl.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: shiva@vega.Stanford.EDU (Marcos Javier Polanco) Subject: Re: Sybase + NS3.0 Message-ID: <1993Jul30.185808.1442@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: DSO, Stanford University References: <1993Jul29.181741.20615@leland.Stanford.EDU> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 93 18:58:08 GMT Although the Sybase situation is pretty dire, I learned from Andrew MacRae that a fix for Sybase Administrator is available directly from NeXT. Call 1-800-848-NeXT. According to reports, Sybase should work just fine on 3.0 black hardware. Thanks to everyone. -marcos j. polanco -shiva@vega.stanford.edu
From: byer@mv.us.adobe.com (Scott Byer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: EPS viewer wanted Message-ID: <1993Jul30.191759.11990@adobe.com> Date: 30 Jul 93 19:17:59 GMT References: <1993Jul30.012442.15154@frsvnsvn.cts.com> Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS) Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated Kurt Werle writes > I would like to view .eps files. Previewer don't seem to cut it > (it does not get the bounding box right). I'd really like to > zoom in/out, scroll, etc. Does this exist? Free? Preview does fine when the EPSs bounding box is correct - problem is that some applications don't put the bounding box in right. I think one of the archive sites has a program that will take arbitrary single-page PostScript and turn it into EPS by adding the right comments. Try running the EPS through that and see if it fixes it, or CMD-Drag the file onto Edit and fix the bounding box by hand. -- Scott Byer NeXTMail: byer@mv.us.adobe.com Adobe Systems Incorporated These are *my* opinions, and 1585 Charleston Road, P.O. Box 7900 do not necessarily reflect Mountain View, CA 94039-7900 the opinions of my employer. ---------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: fms@chemelex .com (Fred Schenkelberg) Subject: vt340 emulation Message-ID: <CAznF0.Ay@chemelex.com> Sender: fms@chemelex.com (Fred Schenkelberg) Organization: Research Group of Chemelex Division of Raychem Corporation Distribution: ba,na,usa,world Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1993 17:33:00 GMT Hi, anyone know where to find or buy a vt340 emulation for the black hardware? Or an emulation package which support hi res graphics and color? I want to display graphs in color while working with BBN's RS/1 on a VAX. -- Fred Schenkelberg fms@chemelex.com -- Fred Schenkelberg
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jesperse@rahul.net (Dennis Jespersen) Subject: nxyplot version 1.88 released Message-ID: <CAzt7C.GoL@rahul.net> Summary: nxyplot1.88 sent to cs.orst.edu Keywords: nxyplot, plotting, graphing Sender: news@rahul.net (Usenet News) Organization: a2i network Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1993 19:37:59 GMT Version 1.88 of nxyplot, a 2D plotting program for NeXT machines, was sent to cs.orst.edu today. I tried to upload to the purdue archive, but they are apparently out of disk space. It is currently in pub/next/submissions at orst, will presumably migrate to sources/plotting. This is primarily a bug fix release. Source code is included; it should compile and execute correctly under NeXTSTEP 3.1 (although I only have 3.0 and black hardware). Questions, comments, suggestions to jesperse@rahul.net. -- Dennis Jespersen Voice: (415) 969-3697 1617 Alison Avenue email: jesperse@rahul.net Mountain View, CA 94040 We have met the enemy and he is us. -- Pogo
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: lorinr@altsys.com (Lorin Rivers III) Subject: Re: SoftPC demo in NS/FIP ?? Message-ID: <1993Jul30.155609.1500@altsys.com> Organization: Altsys Corporation, Richardson, TX References: <1993Jul26.172545.1@fnalnn.fnal.gov> <1993Jul28.034821.4450@rbc.uucp> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1993 15:56:09 GMT In article <1993Jul28.034821.4450@rbc.uucp> davis@ee.rochester.edu writes: >adunn@fnalnn.fnal.gov writes >> In the June/July NeXTWORLD, it is stated that there is a demo version of >> SoftPC included with NS/FIP. > >I see this as an admission of failure. NS/FIP should run MSDOS and Windoze >programs as if they were native, but it doesn't. The only reason Windoze sells >is bacause of all the programs that run on it. NextStep (OS-2, Solaris, QNX, >SCO unix, etc.) will never catch on if it won't run PC software. SoftPC's >existence is an admission that it won't. Now you can if you can put up with >something much worse than a real PC. > >The best so far is Sun's Wabi. It still works pretty bad but is so much better >than anything else that it alone might be a reason to buy Solaris over >Nextstep. > >NextStep will only succeed if it can run PC crap as easily as it runs its own >stuff. It is not necessary to run everything, just most of it. If they do it >right, the PC stuff should run BETTER on NewNextStep than on Windoze. This >oversight is only making the Microsoft empire bigger. If they add this one >feature they can take on Microsoft. > >I am thinking of buying a PC so I won't have to put up with SoftPC. So Windows/NT is a failure too? -- Lorin Rivers Lorin_Rivers@altsys.com NEXTSTEP Sales Manager 214.680.2518 269 W. Renner Parkway NeXT Mail Expected Richardson, Texas 75080 I said it, not my boss
From: danubius@halcyon.com (Joseph R. Pannon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,alt.fan.bill-gates,comp.os.linux Subject: Re: From your friends at UNIXWorld Date: 30 Jul 1993 12:51:29 -0700 Organization: "A World of Information at your Fingertips" Sender: news@nwfocus.wa.com Distribution: world,happynet Message-ID: <23bu41$8l@nwfocus.wa.com> References: <1993Jul16.210211.21253@Princeton.EDU> <1993Jul28.071054.24227@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> <23794r$7r7@nwfocus.wa.com> <SHENTON.93Jul29110554@troll.gsfc.nasa.gov> In article <SHENTON.93Jul29110554@troll.gsfc.nasa.gov> shenton@troll.gsfc.nasa.gov (Chris Shenton) writes: >DOS users: glad to see so many of you getting into a real OS; it great >to see the enthusiasm. It's encumbent on you, however, to learn the >UNIX stuff yourself -- the stuff that's not specific to Linux. The >Linux newsgroups should concentrate on linux issues, not how to program >csh, create undelete aliases, etc... (Plug for the O'Reilly books :-) Yes, and let's add to all the would-be cooks out there that to learn cooking, all they need some good cook books. No kitchen. Just for the record: I did install my Linux on the first try with SLS but I learned form successive SLS releases that not all of them were as trouble-free as the one I installed. That fact alone is enough to discourage a lot of people from upgrade. Especially without a convenient way to restore what one had before (lack of tape backup). I know, I know ... What do I expect from a free software? Nothing, just mentioning some of the problems. Joe Pannon
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.bugs From: borrel@ludvigsen.dhhalden.no (Borre Ludvigsen) Subject: Apps that don't work with 3.1 - Icon & VideoApp Message-ID: <1993Jul30.220744.19823@dhhalden.no> Sender: news@dhhalden.no (Network News User) Organization: Ostfold College Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1993 22:07:44 GMT I had Icon working with 3.0, after upgrading to 3.1 only root can launch it. I get the following error message on the console: > Jul 30 22:04:20 mashallah Icon[864]: Pasteboard lookup failed on host mashallah: (Netnameserver: name not checked in) > Jul 30 22:04:21 mashallah last message repeated 12 times > Jul 30 22:04:21 mashallah Icon[864]: Invalid default font name: Helvetica > Jul 30 22:04:21 mashallah Icon[864]: Pasteboard lookup failed on host mashallah: (Netnameserver: name not checked in) Any suggestions? Also VideoApp and DVR refuse to run (I have a NextDimensions): > Jul 30 22:05:26 Workspace: Cannot exec /borrel/Apps/DVR/DVR : Bad executable (or shared library) > Jul 30 22:05:52 Workspace: Cannot exec /NextDeveloper/Demos/VideoApp : Bad executable (or shared library) Any suggestion? (email answers appreciated.) - Barre Ludvigsen <borrel@ludvigsen.dhhalden.no>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: rhill@maxwarp.nomos.com (Robert Hill) Subject: Re: Digital Librarian woes... Message-ID: <1993Jul30.205824.4394@visus.com> Sender: usenet@visus.com (Usenet news reciever) Organization: Visual Understanding Systems, Pgh PA References: <dgursky.743974549@news.andi.org> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1993 20:58:24 GMT In article <dgursky.743974549@news.andi.org> dgursky@nextsrv1.andi.org (David Gursky) writes: >I've been struggling with a problem Digital Librarian has been giving >me for some time now. I am unable to search the contents of >/NextLibrary/Documentation (this includes the man pages, NeXT's >online documentation, etc.) with any completeness on one of our >NeXTs from my own user ID, but I can do it from root. On another of >our NeXTs, it works just fine. [One is a NextStation Turbo Color, >the other is a plain NextStation. Both are running 3.0] I've >replaced the man pages directory, the index files, even Librarian.app >on the errant machine to no avail. I've looked in the FAQ, Gopher, >and Next Answers for anything resembling this problem and not come >up with anything. Any net-readers have suggestions? > >David M. Gursky NeXTMail accepted >Synex, Inc. e-mail: dgursky@nextsrv1.andi.org >5950 Symphony Woods Road voice: ............ (301) 621-5732 >Columbia, MD 21044 fax: .............. (301) 621-6005 I don't have an answer for you, but my entire domain here has the same problem. If anyone can help, i'd sure appreciate it. My sysadmin here thinks that it may be because we use yp instead of netinfo to manage our hosts, but i'm not sure. Rob
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: reed@prism.sps.mot.com (Tim Reed) Subject: Re: EPS viewer wanted Message-ID: <1993Jul30.220542.16177@newsgate.sps.mot.com> Sender: news@newsgate.sps.mot.com Organization: SPS References: <1993Jul30.191759.11990@adobe.com> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1993 22:05:42 GMT In article <1993Jul30.191759.11990@adobe.com> byer@mv.us.adobe.com (Scott Byer) writes: > I think one of the archive sites has a program that will take arbitrary > single-page PostScript and turn it into EPS by adding the right > comments. Try running the EPS through that and see if it fixes it, > or CMD-Drag the file onto Edit and fix the bounding box by hand. > I believe the App your thinking of is BBFig. -- ---------------------------------------------------------- Tim Reed Motorola SPS PRISM CIM Systems Administrator 2100 E. Elliot Rd. email: reed@prism.sps.mot.com MD: EL606 Phone: 602-897-4703 Tempe, AZ. 85282 Fax: 602-897-3549
From: strobel@dirac.phys.washington.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Any plotting packages for the NeXT? Date: 30 Jul 93 22:41:20 GMT Organization: University of Washington Distribution: na Message-ID: <strobel.744072080@dirac> References: <1993Jul20.140752.5361@cs.yale.edu> <69476@mimsy.umd.edu> alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore) writes: >temple@bragg.biology.yale.edu ("Temple Burling") writes: >> Does anyone know whether a decent scientific plotting package exists for >> the next, comercial or otherwise. I've used NXYplot which is ok for quick >> and dirty plots, I find SciPlot somewhat cumbersome. >you might want to try GnuPlot (or gnuplot) available on the archives. >its a popular free plotting package with lots of features. >the command line version is useful by itself for generating >postscript files and it runs on most Unix (and even VMS) platforms. >There is a nice NeXT front end to it on sonata.cc.purdue.edu. >one good thing is that if you like it, you can share plot files >with people on lesser computers. or if you ever have to use one >of the things, you would at least know the program features even if >you had to type commands instead of push buttons. >-- >Alex Blakemore alex@cs.umd.edu NeXT mail accepted I posted some diffs to gnuplot3.4 that added minor tic marks and x & y error bar capability to gnuplot. These were posted in the newsgroup comp.graphics.gnuplot. A lot of scientific graphs need the minor tic mark capability. I'm surprised that the nxyplot package is not adequate. I've used it for plots submitted to astronomy journals and the graphs look quite nice. I'm using a modified version of nxyplot1.87. Nick Strobel strobel@dirac.phys.washington.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Previewing PS from Apple LW 8.0 on NeXT Message-ID: <1993Jul30.075758.3821@urz.unibas.ch> From: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (Robert Frank) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1993 07:57:58 GMT Sender: news@urz.unibas.ch (USENET News System) References: <1993Jul27.174219.23054@adobe.com> Organization: Institut fuer Informatik In article <1993Jul27.174219.23054@adobe.com> writes: > > Daniel Appelquist writes > > > I'm having a problem where PostScript files created on a Mac using > > LaserWriter 8.0 (created as generic PostScript jobs with level 1 > > compatability) won't show up at all when previewed on a NeXT... > > If I actually dump it to the NeXT printer, the output is just > > fine, but if I try to preview it it looks like a bunch of blank > > pages. Does anybody have a clue what could be going on / how I > > can fix this? It isn't vital exactly, I'm just curious... > > Sometimes the NeXT Previewer gets confused about Document Structuring > comments - even when they are correct :-(. Try editing the first > line of the PostScript file to have only a "%!" on it. You won't > be able to page backwards in Preview, but the file should show up. > > -- > Scott Byer NeXTMail: byer@adobe.com > Adobe Systems Incorporated These are my own opinions, and > 1585 Charleston Road, P.O. Box 7900 do not necessarily reflect > Mountain View, CA 94039-7900 the opinions of my employer. There are two things that can be done: edit the ps file as mentioned above or let previewer open the file in simple mode and convert the CR's in the file to LF's. Although the PS interpreter should handle both correctly, it seems that preview doesn't like CR's that much. After converting CR to LF almost all files showed in preview. -Robert -- Robert Frank tel. + (061) 321 99 67 Institut fuer Informatik fax + (061) 321 99 15 University of Basel, Switzerland Mittlere Strasse 142 rfc822: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (NeXT mail accepted) CH-4056 Basel X400: S=frank;OU=ifi;O=unibas;P=switch;A=arcom;C=ch ( if all fails try frank@urz.unibas.ch )
From: iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: 600 dpi TeX-fonts Date: 31 Jul 1993 00:18:52 GMT Organization: UCLA, Anderson Graduate School Of Management Message-ID: <23cdpc$d61@news.mic.ucla.edu> References: <23ahu0$1n0@belfort.daimi.aau.dk> Keywords: 600dpi TeX LaTeX In article <23ahu0$1n0@belfort.daimi.aau.dk> jhj@daimi.aau.dk (Jens H|rup Jensen) writes: >Somewhere I have read, that it is possible to get 600dpi fonts >for TeX and LaTeX for the NeXT computer. Does anybody know a >ftp-site where these fonts can be obtained. > >Thanks in advance > >-- Jens Hoerup Jensen > Denmark > > It's already there. Here are Tom Rokicki's instruction to me: First, I recommend making up your own mode_def rather than using the one from the net. Just copy the one for imagen and give it the name laserjetiv and change the pixels_per_inch to 600; no other changes should be necessary. Make this addition in the file /usr/lib/mf/inputs/next.mf. Then, create a new METAFONT base file. Do the following commands: inimf "plain; input next; dump" su cp plain.base /usr/lib/mf/bases/plain.base cp plain.base /usr/lib/mf/bases/mf.base Now, edit /usr/bin/MakeTeXPK. About line 71, add the three lines elif test $BDPI = 600 then MODE=laserjetiv Now, edit /usr/lib/tex/ps/config.ps and change the line D 400 to D 600 If the line `D 400' doesn't exist, then just add `D 600' somewhere That should be all you need to do! Now run TeX/TeXview and try to print something. The first few times will be painfully slow because all of the fonts will need to be generated, but this will go away quickly.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) Subject: Re: Rocks1.8fat.tar requires gunzip? (which is fine) Message-ID: <1993Jul31.010210.24283@cs.yale.edu> Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News) Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT References: <1993Jul30.041441.710@parsec.mixcom.com> Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1993 01:02:10 GMT In article <1993Jul30.041441.710@parsec.mixcom.com> alberto@parsec.mixcom.com (Alberto Ricart) writes: > (Complaints about Rocks_1.8fat.pkg requiring gunzip and that the > installation scripts were "assumed" that gunzip lived in /usr/bin...) > As previously mentioned Rocks_1.8fat was distributed fat, and thus > only intended for machines running 3.1 or above. All 3.1 or above > systems DO have gunzip in the directory specified by the script. <deleted> > What do you think? I think you should *document* these facts more clearly in the readme file that resides with the archive file. Mine certainly doesn't indicate I was SOL if I didn't have a 3.1 system... -- Nathan "USENET" Janette PPP link from hilbert.csb.yale.edu Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) Subject: Re: rocks Message-ID: <1993Jul31.010326.24352@cs.yale.edu> Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News) Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1993 01:03:26 GMT In article <1993Jul30.041441.710@parsec.mixcom.com> alberto@parsec.mixcom.com (Alberto Ricart) writes: > (Complaints about Rocks_1.8fat.pkg requiring gunzip and that the > installation scripts were "assumed" that gunzip lived in /usr/bin...) > As previously mentioned Rocks_1.8fat was distributed fat, and thus > only intended for machines running 3.1 or above. All 3.1 or above > systems DO have gunzip in the directory specified by the script. <deleted> > What do you think? I think you should *document* these facts more clearly in the readme file that resides with the archive file. Mine certainly doesn't indicate I was SOL if I didn't have a 3.1 system... -- Nathan "USENET" Janette PPP link from hilbert.csb.yale.edu Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: wave@pixar.com (Michael B. Johnson) Subject: Re: Adobe Illustrator on Black NeXTSTEP Message-ID: <1993Jul31.001954.18419@pixar.com> Sender: news@pixar.com (Usenet Newsmaster) Organization: Pixar -- Point Richmond, California References: <1993Jul29.175333.24228@altsys.com> Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1993 00:19:54 GMT In article <1993Jul29.175333.24228@altsys.com> lorinr@altsys.com (Lorin Rivers III) writes: > > Altsys is firm in our committment to NEXTSTEP and we continue to > develop our Best-of-Breed award winning graphics software, Virtuoso. > We will release the FAT version of Virtuoso soon and are working on > version 2.0 as well. Best of all (for you Illustrator users) is that > Virtuoso saves and edits files in .ai format as well as native and > FreeHand formats, enabling you to keep using the files you've been > creating for some time. > Virtuoso is a stellar piece of software, especially for folks that live in the high-end Mac side of things, like my fiancee. She's a graphic designer, and does work on a Quadra 800 at work and we have a Centris 650 at home. I have a NeXTSTation color, and she does illustrations for me (for UI design, icons, etc.) which, for the most part, she uses Freehand, although sometimes Illustrator. The fact that she can hand me an HD Mac floppy with the files on it and I can open them up in Virtuoso, edit them, and save them back out again she can reedit them is mind boggling. Who needs Adobe Illustrator? Buy Virtuoso. You won't be sorry. We haven't been. Great manual, too. -- --> Michael B. Johnson -- wave@media.mit.edu, wave@pixar.com --> MIT Media Lab -- Computer Graphics & Animation Group --> P*I*X*A*R -- IceMan Group (for the summer)
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Source Code/Binaries for some Intel programs Date: 28 Jul 1993 08:39:25 -0000 Organization: Palumbian Research Labs Message-ID: <235dvt$14e@marsu.tynet.sub.org> References: <231meo$7sl@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit zmonster@athena.mit.edu (Eric M Hermanson) writes: >I am looking for NS/Intel binaries for the following programs (in order of >importance): >1. SciPlot 3.4 (!) ? No idea. >2. Newsgrazer (or rrn,trn if no newsgrazer) Not available yet. No information when it will be. Me, I compiled nn and tin. >3. Gator FTP ( or similar GUI type ftp program) Available FAT. >4. Opener They're working on it currently. >5 ImageViewer Available FAT. >6. Weather.app ? >6. f2c Compiles without problems. >7. DarkForest >8. MPEG Player >9. MOD Player >10. Yahtzee No idea about the last four items. >where are these located? Look into sonata.cc.purdue.edu, cs.orst.edu, ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de. Regards, Markus. -- /dev Markus Wenzel, University of Stuttgart /usr/spool/mail mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org ~/.ircrc/nick Marsu /etc/motd NeXTSTEP for Cray computers? Where? When?? How???
From: wrob@unixg.ubc.ca (Robert Wong) Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems,comp.sys.next.software Subject: (Summary) NeXTstation serial ports and Kermit Date: 31 Jul 1993 06:15:20 GMT Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada Distribution: world Message-ID: <23d2lo$cjp@skeena.ucs.ubc.ca> References: <2386qa$6cm@skeena.ucs.ubc.ca> In article <2386qa$6cm@skeena.ucs.ubc.ca> wrob@unixg.ubc.ca (Robert Wong) writes: >What is the fastest speed that a NeXTstation serial port can be clocked? >Currently, I'm running kermit and I have /dev/cufa set at 38400. Can I >clock it faster? The consensus is that the NeXTstation serial ports can be clocked at 38400, but not higher. If I wanted higher serial communications speed, apparently, a hardware product by the folks at Yrrid will do the job. It hooks onto the DSP port. Thanks to Mike Matthews (matthewm@sgate.com) and SHUCK EDWARD LEE (eshuck@slate.Mines.Colorado.EDU) for the quick response. RWW. -- Robert W. Wong Jr. wrob@unixg.ubc.ca (ASCII only) Crasher of Automated Banking Machines and Keeper of the ZyXEL FAQ
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) Subject: Re: monitoring program Message-ID: <1993Jul31.092920.5367@csus.edu> Sender: news@csus.edu Organization: San Francisco State University References: <1993Jul30.185945.9791@wuecl.wustl.edu> Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1993 09:29:20 GMT In article <1993Jul30.185945.9791@wuecl.wustl.edu> hussain@artsci.wustl.edu (G. H. Chinoy) writes: >I was wondering if anyone had a NeXT.app or unix program that could organize >finger/w/who info (or any other info) so that system administrators could >glance at who's logged in & what's going on on their net? >Anyone have any clues? Last year I released a prototype of something that might do what you want; it's a GUI rusers client that can show you a "floor plan" view of a network, who's logged in at consoles (using the Mail.app pictures), and clicking on a machine's icon pops up a detailed list of who's logged in (including remote users). sutro.SFSU.EDU [130.212.15.230] pub/RUsers-p1.tar.Z (contains m68k executable and documentation; no source) -=EPS=-
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) Subject: What is Open Sesame Message-ID: <1993Jul30.182121.3058@weston.com> Sender: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1993 18:21:21 GMT What is Open Sesame? What does it do. Thanks -- Wes Spears <-------> jspears@weston.com (NeXTMail Welcome) The Weston Group 8524 Highway 6 North, 162, Houston, TX 77095
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) Subject: Re: [Q] Cursor Exploder Program? Message-ID: <1993Jul31.100657.6836@csus.edu> Sender: news@csus.edu Organization: San Francisco State University References: <1993Jul30.153606.9561@ads.com> Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1993 10:06:57 GMT In article <1993Jul30.153606.9561@ads.com> chris@socrates.ads.com (Chris Smith) writes: >On the Macintoshes there are a couple of programs which, among other >features, offer what is sometimes referred to as a cursor exploding >feature. If the user presses a certain key or key combination, a one- or >two-inch circle flashes for a second or so around the cursor. Comes in >quite handy on large displays! Use Preferences to enable the right mouse button. -=EPS=-
Control: cancel <aris.744013745@mundoe> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: aris@mundoe.maths.mu.OZ.AU ( Aris Theocharides ) Subject: cancel <aris.744013745@mundoe> Message-ID: <9321220.15213@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> Sender: news@cs.mu.OZ.AU Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1993 10:46:08 GMT cancel <aris.744013745@mundoe> in newsgroup comp.sys.next.software name: aris theocharides. address: room g63, maths dept, melb uni, parkville, vic, australia, 3052. phone [+613] uni: 344.46.20, home: 489.90.14, fax: 344.45.99 e.mail: aris@mundoe.maths.mu.OZ.AU (NeXTmail)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: joe@FreemanSoft.com (Joe Freeman) Subject: Re: The Second Annual Mesa Party Message-ID: <1993Jul31.141731.903@FreemanSoft.com> Sender: jfreeman@FreemanSoft.com Organization: FreemanSoft Inc. References: <238qa5$tk@hermes.athena.com> Distribution: usa Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1993 14:17:31 GMT In article <238qa5$tk@hermes.athena.com> dpp@athena.com (David Pollak) writes: > In article <1993Jul25.192814.3099@FreemanSoft.com> joe@FreemanSoft.com (Joe > Freeman) writes: > > In article <22gujt$1k3@hermes.athena.com> dpp@athena.com (David Pollak) > > writes: > > > > > > > > On August 4, 1992, Athena Design released Mesa. In the year since > > > its introduction, Athena Design has upgraded Mesa 5 times > > > > Its not clear that doing 5 upgrades in a year is something to crow. > > about That has some unpleasent implications with reguards to testing > > and qa.But, then I guess you are counting the "first company to > > release a fatbinary product" which was built on a beta release of the > > systems tools. > > > > > > -- > > Joe, > > It's folks like you who make selling software honestly difficult. > > Because you used to work at NeXT, there are people within NeXT that > respect your opinion. You have just created (I believe with an > understanding that you have done so) the perception that Mesa is a buggy > product. This was wrong, both from the standpoint of Mesa's robustness > (we are only tracking one serious bug in Mesa 1.5) and from the > standpoint of being a cooperative member of this small community. I'm not sure whether Mesa is a buggy problem or not. The folks I know that are using it, seem to like it. My comments were really aimed at two different areas. 1) As listed in the schedule you posted, there has been a release every two months. Many of the releases included pretty major feature set enhancements, on pretty short development schedules. This "usually" implies a problem with repect to qa and correctness of implementaton. (Though in your case it is probably a reflection of massive feature upgrades) It also means that customers probably felt compelled to upgrade each time. Small companies or individuals really don't have a problem with that but any company using a piece of software to run their buisness should probably think twice. Not because the releases are buggy, but because any release for any product will have some changes and will impact the companies productivity. There are many companies in the NeXTSTEP world that are feature jamming during the first year/two of release. This is due to the quantity of competing products and the desire to sell product. In most cases, the products are useable and quite stable from day one. But, the feature sets are not quite complete. So, the companies can be thought as selling "revenue beta" where they are continuing to add features at a frantic pace. (NS is really good at supporting this kind of behavior) I have no problem and would rather see the products shipping and solving problems. 2) Some of the claims of compatability are a bit of a stretch. Claiming to have a SHIPPING FAT binary PRODUCT (not beta) on march 31 is pretty far fetched. There wasn't even an OS to base it on at that point. Claiming to be PA compatable is pretty ridiculous at this point since there is no way to veryify the claim. (Though, the product will probably run on PA when NS/PA finally comes out some time next year). << impressive bug numbers and closure rates deleted>> > Let me tell you about Mesa's releases: > > AR-1 - August 4, 1992 > 1.1 - September 4, 1992 - added SQL capabilities, enhanced Object Library, cell shading > 1.2 - November 4, 1992 - added 3D graphs > 1.3 - January 8, 1993 - added MScript, Excel file read, Patterns > 1.4 - March 31, 1993 - First Fat Binary NS app, 20/20 file read, SYLK read & > write, Lotus .WK1 write > 1.5 - May 21, 1993 - Spreadsheet and Graph palettized objects, enhanced SQL > capabilities, interoperability with DataPhile > > We have > moved Mesa from being a dark horse in the NEXTSTEP spreadsheet market to > the best selling, most powerful NEXTSTEP spreadsheet. We have gone from > not even being able to get phone calls returned from our developer > advocate at NeXT to having a good relationship with the top folks at > NeXT. This is because we have a quality product and back it > with quality service. I'm not arguing that you have a good product. Though, horn tooting at this point is probably premature. Right now you are the ONLY spreadsheet on intel and the only traditional spreadsheet on 68K. This means there is really no competition. > Your comments undermine what we have been building and I find them > personally offensive. We have created Mesa and sold it to customers. > The early customers can upgrade to the most recent version of Mesa for > free. Commercial versions of Mesa come with unlimited technical > support. We upgrade and enhance our product to meet market and customer > needs. Perhaps you should do some research before being a net-fool. I'm sorry if you took the comments personally. I have reread them to find comments made on a personal level without success. It is doubtful that any of your customers, or other folks on the net would make a decision based on the previous posting. (Its not like they have a choice in products in this vertical area). The free upgrades are a excellent policy that will insure customer loyalty. -- Joe Freeman FreemanSoft Inc. A NEXTSTEP software and consulting services company. Electronic Mail: Joe@FreemanSoft.com (NeXT Mail) Voice: 919.783.7033
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: coconut@crash.cts.com (Brian Dear) Subject: Will the following software run in 3.1... Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA Date: 31 Jul 93 22:49:32 PDT Message-ID: <1993Jul31.224932.25741@crash> Well, it is time to upgrade our old NeXT machines to 3.1. The question is, will all of the following software continue to run FINE: Adobe Illustrator 3.0.1 FrameMaker 3.0 Altsys Virtuoso 1.0 DarkForest Adobe FontInstaller Lotus Improv 1.0 If the answer is YES to ALL of the above, then I guess we should upgrade now. Otherwise we'll wait til closer to when the "deal" ends (Oct93) (see recent c.s.n.announce-ment regarding NeXT's price changes for upgrades from 3.0 -> 3.1). I would appreciate replies from anyone who has already done the 3.0 -> 3.1 upgrade for NeXT hardware, and has and uses the software listed above. -- brian dear coconut computing, inc.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: borrel@ludvigsen.dhhalden.no (Borre Ludvigsen) Subject: Re: Apps that don't work with 3.1 - Icon & VideoApp Message-ID: <1993Aug1.082450.7783@dhhalden.no> Sender: news@dhhalden.no (Network News User) Organization: Ostfold College References: <1993Jul30.220744.19823@dhhalden.no> Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1993 08:24:50 GMT Thnks for the answers. Icon needs to have the 3.0 patch, the 2.1 resources and the public window server preference on to work. As for VideoApp: > From: Marcel Waldvogel <Marcel.Waldvogel@nice.usergroup.ethz.ch> > To: borrel@ludvigsen.dhhalden.no > Subject: Re: Apps that don't work with 3.1 - Icon & VideoApp > Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.bugs > Organization: NiCE - NeXT User Group, Zurich, Switzerland > > In article <1993Jul30.220744.19823@dhhalden.no> you write: > >Also VideoApp and DVR refuse to run (I have a NextDimensions): > > > > > Jul 30 22:05:26 Workspace: Cannot exec /borrel/Apps/DVR/DVR : Bad executable > >(or shared library) > > > Jul 30 22:05:52 Workspace: Cannot exec /NextDeveloper/Demos/VideoApp : Bad > >executable (or shared library) > > What does 'ebadexec <path to executable>' say? > > -Marcel Marcel, Thank you kindly for the tip! This appears to be the workaround for now: > 3%ebadexec /NextDeveloper/demo/VideoApp > ebadexec: executable file: /NextDeveloper/demo/VideoApp does not exist (No such file or directory) The libvideo_s.A.shlib picked up from NS 3.0 just made the whole machine freeze up, so this appears to be the solution: > 6%ls -l /usr/shlib/libvideo_s.A.shlib > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root 18 Aug 1 07:29 /usr/shlib/libvideo_s.A.shlib -> libMedia_s.A.shlib@ Both VideoApp and DVR work now (though the DVR animations are not as smooth as I seem to remember them). Thanks again. - Barre Ludvigsen
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.software From: borrel@ludvigsen.dhhalden.no (Borre Ludvigsen) Subject: MailCall & 3.1 bug Message-ID: <1993Aug1.101344.8577@dhhalden.no> Sender: news@dhhalden.no (Network News User) Organization: Ostfold College Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1993 10:13:44 GMT MailCall has become indispensable. It displays from and subject in a small window in the lower left of the screen. You see the importance of incoming mail at a glance. With NS 3.1 a bug has crept in. Updating the display window after emptying /usr/spool/mail/<user> quits MailCall! How nice it would be if MailCall updated itself occasionally, emptying the window when the spool file is gone. As it is now, my workaround is to echo a space to create an empty spool file before upafating, that way at least it doesn't quit. Any one have a better fix? Is there somewone with programming abilities that feels called upon to fix and recompile the source? - Barre Ludvigsen
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bruce@TotSysSoft.com (Bruce Gingery) Subject: Re: NeXTstation serial ports and Kermit Message-ID: <1993Jul31.192243.10651@ToTSySSoft.com> Sender: news@ToTSySSoft.com Organization: Total System Software References: <2386qa$6cm@skeena.ucs.ubc.ca> Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1993 19:22:43 GMT In article <2386qa$6cm@skeena.ucs.ubc.ca> wrob@unixg.ubc.ca (Robert Wong) writes: -> What is the fastest speed that a NeXTstation serial -> port can be clocked? Currently, I'm running kermit -> and I have /dev/cufa set at 38400. Can I clock it -> faster? replies posted to comp.dcom.modems Also see serial cable wiring guide in csn.sysadmin
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: bruce@TotSysSoft.com (Bruce Gingery) Subject: Preparing large ftp files for EVERYONE! Message-ID: <1993Jul31.194404.10728@ToTSySSoft.com> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Keywords: chunk, splitting, large, huge, enormous, MAB, FAT Sender: news@ToTSySSoft.com Organization: Total System Software Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1993 19:44:04 GMT ====================================================== ATTENTION MAB Package posters -- PLEASE CHUNK YOUR ftp UPLOADS to smaller than 1-meg per chunk, though ftp.uu.net seems to prefer 250000bytes, to allow more access by those who have limited ftp access! So long as individual parts have distinctive sequence numbers, the reconstitution is easy... There have been quite a few postings I've bypassed, unwilling to pay the postage for server fetching via E-Mail, and my E-Mail is deliberately limited to 1meg per message anyways. ====================================================== After creating a large package it is NOT hard to chunk it down to managable pieces, and will provide greater distribution (which is the reason for posting for ftp anyways, isn't it?) On 2.1 systems, use /NextApps/Installer.app/chunk On 3.x systems, use /NextAdmin/Installer.app/chunk mkdir /tmp/ftpupload chunk 2500000 ENORMOUS.MAB.tar /tmp/ftpupload You'll find in /tmp/ftpupload the following files ENORMOUS.MAB.tar.1 ENORMOUS.MAB.tar.2 etc. Then upload the pieces. If you forget to delete the pieces after shipping them out, they'll disappear when /tmp is cleaned at your next boot. Bruce Gingery bruce@TotSysSoft.com Total System Software NeXT-Mail preferred
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bruce@TotSysSoft.com (Bruce Gingery) Subject: Re: Splitting large files (period) Message-ID: <1993Jul31.194417.10788@ToTSySSoft.com> Keywords: chunk, splitting, large, huge, enormous, MAB, FAT, ftp Sender: news@ToTSySSoft.com Organization: Total System Software References: <1993Jul30.085331.7069@resonex.com> Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1993 19:44:17 GMT ====================================================== ATTENTION MAB Package posters -- PLEASE CHUNK YOUR ftp UPLOADS to smaller than 1-meg per chunk, though ftp.uu.net seems to prefer 250000bytes, to allow more access by those who have limited ftp access! So long as individual parts have distinctive sequence numbers, the reconstitution is easy... There have been quite a few postings I've bypassed, unwilling to pay the postage for server fetching via E-Mail, and my E-Mail is deliberately limited to 1meg per message anyways. ====================================================== In article <1993Jul30.085331.7069@resonex.com> zenon@resonex.com (Zenon Fortuna) writes: [snip] -> One crude method would be to divide the file into, -> say, 5 chunks and to combine them under SCO to get -> the original file. -> -> Using the Terminal under NeXT to work with shell, -> you can use "dd" to get the -> pieces: [snip] As posted in E-Mail.. a better solution would be to use the chunk utility provided inside Installer.app on 2.1, 3.0, 3.1 NS, and probably other versions as well. Not well documented... Usage: chunk chunk_size [+first_chunk_pad] filename [dest_dir] chunk size is the MAX allowed size, which will be rounded (hmmm or was it truncated) by the app. First chunk pad (presumably) is extra space needed with the first chunk for overhead documentation (this was written for chunking .pkg files onto multiple diskettes) filename is the INPUT filename destdir is the desired output directory. cat part01 part02 .. | <unarchiving command> For example... BIG.compressed1 BIG.compressed2 BIG.compressed3 cat BIG.compressed1 BIG.compressed2 BIG.compressed3 | zcat | tar -xv[p]f - Then on your own system re-compress it with the workspace manager if desired. Bruce Gingery bruce@TotSysSoft.com NeXT-Mail preferred
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.marketplace,rec.aviation,rmnug.general From: karl@khaos.com (Karl Hanzel) Subject: Pilot's Logbook... in NeXTStep? 'Already been done? Message-ID: <1993Aug1.094724.4762@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> Keywords: flight logbook, nextstep app, reinventing rolling rocks with wood axles Sender: karl@nugget.rmNUG.ORG Organization: Rocky Mountain NeXT Users' Group Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1993 09:47:24 GMT Pilot programming project: {repeat three times, rapidly in succession .. ok it's not that bad} I have it in mind, to create a logbook_app for flight logging. Most certainly it's been done a bizillion times for other platforms (even though, to date, i've never played with one), and i'd bet a few bucks that it's already been done before for NeXTStep. If it has, heck, i'd even pay a few bucks to someone who's already done it, if they could show me a good demo. Heck, i'd even do it for myself, on the off chance that it hasn't been done already. Heck, i'd listen to your's or anyone else's suggestions about doing such a thing. Heck, i'd even like to collaborate with other interested persons and do a real nice job of it, together. What's the story netlandians? How do you/how would you feel about any of the above "heck's". 'Wanna hack? Please, no hecklers. Does anybody have experience in coordinating a distributed project over the net? NeXTMail is just the ticket for sharing of ideas... but project management is still very critical on this, i think. 'Maybe too much trouble? At one point, some interest was expressed by members of my Rocky Mountain NUG group to collaborate on a project... but nothing ever happened, so i'm just broadening the horizons here. A slick individual would just tackle it for themselves, sell it cheap to the masses, and call it good. Perhaps an adaptable product already out there (spreadsheat) would lend itself better to the task than a custom app? pax, Karl *-----> Karl Hanzel Private pilot, Glider (only), Aero Tow (only) NeXTStep programmer (barely) karl@khaos.com (NeXT Mail welcome!) (303)443-6602
From: pfkeb@kaon.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Paul F. Kunz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Source Code/Binaries for Intel Programs Message-ID: <PFKEB.93Aug1074209@kaon.SLAC.Stanford.EDU> Date: 1 Aug 93 14:42:11 GMT References: <233gnc$bp5@wave.aoml.erl.gov> Sender: news@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center In-Reply-To: powell@tropic.aoml.erl.gov's message of 27 Jul 1993 15:13:48 GMT >>>>> On 27 Jul 1993 15:13:48 GMT, powell@tropic.aoml.erl.gov (Mark Powell) said: > NNTP-Posting-Host: tropic.aoml.erl.gov > I would like to second Eric Hermanson's request and add a couple of apps. > Would it be possible to set up a seperate FAT/source area on sonata or at > Oregon State for distribution of these programs? > We are also looking for NS/Intel binaries for the following programs: > 1. SciPlot 3.4 (!) > 2. Newsgrazer > 3. Gator FTP ( or similar GUI type ftp program) > 4. Movie 2.51 or latest version > 5. Weather.app > 6. f2c Lastest f2c from research.att.com compiles FAT no problem. > 7. DarkForest > 8. Hippodraw Next release of HippoDraw (*real soon now*) will be submitted in FAT and Motorola only versions. The FAT version has problems on NS 3.0 in loading bundles. -- Paul F. Kunz Paul_Kunz@slac.stanford.edu (NeXT mail ok) Stanford Linear Accelerator Center, Stanford University Voice: (415) 926-2884 (NeXT) Fax: (415) 926-3587
From: ricardo@pencom.com (Ricardo Parada) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: DriverDevlopment Kit for NEXTSTEP486 Message-ID: <1993Jul31.223522.18636@pencom.com> Date: 31 Jul 93 22:35:22 GMT References: <1993Jul26.170636.6286@mprgate.mpr.ca> Sender: usenet@pencom.com (Usenet Pseudo User) Organization: Pencom Software In article <1993Jul26.170636.6286@mprgate.mpr.ca> freedman@mpr.ca (Elliot Freedman) writes: > Has the driver development kit been released for NEXTSTEP486? > > Elliot Freedman > freedman@mpr.ca Yes. It comes with NEXTSTEP DEVELOPER. That's what I've been using. Ricardo J. Parada Pencom Software Austin Texas
From: mike@doberman.com (Mike Panzitta) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Will the following software run in 3.1... Date: 1 Aug 1993 17:33:53 GMT Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation Distribution: world Message-ID: <23guq1$jig@cnn.sim.es.com> References: <1993Jul31.224932.25741@crash> In article <1993Jul31.224932.25741@crash> coconut@crash.cts.com (Brian Dear) writes: > The question is, will all of the following software continue to run FINE: > > Adobe Illustrator 3.0.1 > FrameMaker 3.0 > Altsys Virtuoso 1.0 > DarkForest > Adobe FontInstaller > Lotus Improv 1.0 I can't speak for all of these, but I do know that FrameMaker 3.0 and Lotus Improv 1.0 both work on black hardware under 3.1. I found it to be a fairly painless upgrade. -Mike
From: mike@doberman.com (Mike Panzitta) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Will the following software run in 3.1... Date: 1 Aug 1993 17:35:08 GMT Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation Distribution: world Message-ID: <23gusc$jp0@cnn.sim.es.com> References: <1993Jul31.224932.25741@crash> I can't speak for all of the apps mentioned, but I do know that FrameMaker 3.0 and Lotus Improv 1.0 both work on black hardware under 3.1. I found it to be a fairly painless upgrade. -Mike
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bob@hanszen.rice.edu (Robert Morrison Dana) Subject: GDB-4.9 compilation? Message-ID: <CB3LGz.1Hx@rice.edu> Sender: news@rice.edu (News) Organization: Rice University Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1993 20:41:23 GMT GDB downloaded from prep.ai.mit.edu does not support NeXT as one of the configurations for compilation. Has anyone done the work to get it to work? Or does the gdb that ships with 3.0 work with code generated by the newer versions of gcc? I'm using c++ for classwork here at school, so I pretty much have to use a newer version of gcc than the NeXT comes with. thanks for any info... -Robert -- Robert Dana <bob@rice.edu> ONCS UNIX Student Systems Programmer Rice University, Houston, TX
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: root@next1.scri.fsu.edu (Operator) Subject: IRC with NS interface Sender: usenet@mailer.cc.fsu.edu Organization: Florida State University ACNS Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1993 22:38:11 GMT Message-ID: <CB3qvn.JED@mailer.cc.fsu.edu> Is there an ftp site where I can get an IRC with NS interface program? Thanks for any info, - Steve Dekorte -- NewsGrazer, a NeXTstep(tm) news reader, posting -- M>UQR=&8P7&%N<VE[7&9O;G1T8FQ<9C!<9FYI;"!4:6UE<RU2;VUA;CM]"EQM M87)G;#$R,`I<;6%R9W(Q,C`*7'!A<F1<='@Y-C!<='@Q.3(P7'1X,C@X,%QT M>#,X-#!<='@T.#`P7'1X-3<V,%QT>#8W,C!<='@W-C@P7'1X.#8T,%QT>#DV M,#!<9C!<8C!<:3!<=6PP7&9S,C@@7`I)<R!T:&5R92!A;B!F='`@<VET92!W M:&5R92!)(&-A;B!G970@86X@25)#('=I=&@@3E,@:6YT97)F86-E(`IP<F]G M<F%M/UP*7`I4:&%N:W,@9F]R(&%N>2!I;F9O+%P*+2!3=&5V92!$96MO<G1E #"GT* `
From: jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Joseph W Reiss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: ImageViewer 0.9i filter services [?] Date: 2 Aug 1993 00:34:13 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <23hne5$2j0@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Hello, I'm trying to get ImageViewer 0.9i to do like the docs say it can do and automagically convert any image type (or at least those it supports) to TIFF files for use in other programs. I can't seem to get it to work, though. According to the docs, all I should need to do is drop it into one of the Apps folders (I'm using LocalApps). However, when I try to drag a GIF into PasteUp or look at it with the Inspector, etc, it doesn't display at all. I'm using NS3.1 on a color 040 slab. Anybody manage to get this to work? Am I doing something wrong? Am I misunderstanding what this filter service is supposed to do for me? Help! Joe -- __________ | NeXTMail accepted, but not preferred | |___) | """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" \_/OE | \EISS | Real programmers don't like the "team programming" `---- | concept, unless they are the Chief Programmer.
From: glenn@rightbrain.com (Glenn Reid) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Will the following software run in 3.1... Message-ID: <1291@rtbrain.rightbrain.com> Date: 2 Aug 93 00:46:18 GMT References: <1993Jul31.224932.25741@crash> Sender: glenn@rightbrain.com Brian Dear writes > > Well, it is time to upgrade our old NeXT machines to 3.1. > > The question is, will all of the following software continue to run FINE: > > Adobe Illustrator 3.0.1 > FrameMaker 3.0 > Altsys Virtuoso 1.0 > DarkForest > Adobe FontInstaller > Lotus Improv 1.0 I can vouch for ALL of them. We use these programs semi-regularly, and all of them run fine under 3.1. We only upgraded one of our machines to 3.0 when it came out, but we have upgraded all (but one) of our machines to 3.1. It seems to be very stable and works great. We have found no incompatibilities with any software, commercial, PD, old, new, whatever. Go for it. -- Glenn Reid NeXTmail: glenn@rightbrain.com RightBrain Software 415-326-2974 (NeXTfax 326-2977) Palo Alto, California Electronic Frontier Foundation, member #054
Newsgroups: comp.databases.sybase,comp.sys.next.software From: royce@splunge.uucp (Royce Howland) Subject: Re: SYBASE Woes (was Re: Sybase database available for NSFIP?) Message-ID: <1993Aug1.003947.4173@splunge.uucp> Organization: Ashley, Howland & Wood References: <CAuowF.1D7@news.cis.umn.edu> <1993Jul28.184513.7935@crash> Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1993 00:39:47 GMT coconut@crash.cts.com (Brian Dear) writes: >Thanks for being this Sybase issue up. >[...] >We considered getting Sybase but are now thinking such a move would be >ill-advised. We're now thinking Quickbase. Parabase sounds nice, but doesn't >it need Sybase? If Parabase is standalone then it's a contender. Ideal >case: a database server and client setup that can run in NS3.1 on both >NeXT and Intel machines, and is _supported_ by its vendor. Any hope? (Quick note: Parabase is not a database, it's a forms builder app that runs on top of a database.) I've also got a requirement for a NEXTSTEP-based database, and face the same decision-making process as Brian. I'm at the start of curve, and haven't done much research yet, but I have launched a lot of queries with these companies, and read what PR material I happened to get at Expo. Anything that anybody else can correct or add to the following list and brief summaries would be most appreciated. I will summarize anything I get back from the net or the companies I'm talking to. If anybody especially wants to hear what I find out, send me email and I will be sure to get back to you. Anyway, here are the players that I'm aware of, in alphabetical order: Gupta SQLBase: - Some client software (Parabase); can also use DBKit; haven't heard about Gupta's own client software or any third-party client tools. - New (3.x) server; not available on black; supported on white; unsure about accessing non-NEXTSTEP-based servers; unsure about access from non-NEXTSTEP clients. - Future prognosis seems good (modulo the fact that Gupta itself is not supporting the NEXTSTEP port, but it's done by a small NEXTSTEP-only company). Oracle: - No client software; use DBKit or third-party tools. - Old (2.x) server; not sure if supported on black 3.0 or newer; not sure of availability on white; can access non-NEXTSTEP-based servers; can be accessed from non- NEXTSTEP clients. - Don't know about future NEXTSTEP support plans. QuickBase: - Scads of client software; can also use DBKit; haven't heard of any third-party client tools. - New (3.x) server; supported on black and white; runs only on NEXTSTEP, so access to non-NEXTSTEP-based servers is n/a; don't know about access from non- NEXTSTEP clients. - Future prognosis seems good (modulo the small size and NEXTSTEP-only nature of the company) given all the available client apps, Rosebase: - Not sure about client software; can use DBKit; haven't heard of any third-party client tools. - New (3.x) server; supported on black and white; runs only on NEXTSTEP, so access to non-NEXTSTEP-based servers is n/a; don't know about access from non- NEXTSTEP clients. - Future prognosis seems less clear, given the low- profile nature of the company; it is also small and NEXTSTEP-only. Sybase: - No client software; use DBKit or third-party tools. - Old (2.x) server; not supported on black 3.0 or newer; not available on white at all; can access non-NEXTSTEP- based servers; can be accessed from non-NEXTSTEP clients. - No apparent plans for any future NEXTSTEP support. Versant: - Not sure about client software; haven't heard of any third-party client tools. - New (3.x) server; haven't heard about availability on white; don't know about accessing non-NEXTSTEP-based servers; don't know about access from non-NEXTSTEP clients. - Don't know about future NEXTSTEP support plans. Not listed: Dataspace, a very impressive-looking NEXTSTEP database workspace package, offers something called the Personal RDBMS, a bundled SQL database "for personal requirements". This doesn't sound like a full-fledged SQL back-end, so I didn't list it above. Rumored players: InterBase (listed on Parabase documentation as a supported server); ObjectStore (dead NS 4.0 deal, porting anyway?). -- Royce Howland, DKW Systems Corp. | "And since OS/2 2.0 is a 32-bit Everything is IMHO | operating system, programs are royce@splunge.uucp (NeXTMail OK) | easier to write and run faster, or kakwa!atlantis!splunge!royce | too." -ad for OS/2 2.0
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: royce@splunge.uucp (Royce Howland) Subject: Re: Rocks1.8fat.tar requires gunzip? Message-ID: <1993Aug1.005018.4395@splunge.uucp> Organization: Ashley, Howland & Wood References: <88640@ut-emx.uucp> Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1993 00:50:18 GMT mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (alex) writes: >I was in the process of installing the Rocks.pkg and discovered that it could >not be completed because the installation requires the presense of gunzip >which I don't happen to have. Now I am going to have to dig around and find >gunzip and probably I will have to compile it for NS (which means I will have >to boot from an optical which has the developer system on it)... etc and so >forth. Please folks, dont' assume that everyone has everything already on >their system. If your application installer requires more than the normal you >could at least let people know or even include the decompression program (GNU >unzip is freeware after all). >Pardon my raving. I do like Rocks but I don't look forward to having to search >the net to find gunzip and all that. Would someone like to NeXTmail me the >gunzip binary? It so happens that NS 3.1 includes gunzip, and so the Rocks people are likely depending on that fact. However, the above statement about letting people know the requirement for gunzip, or (better) including it in the package, stands. We all haven't yet managed to install our copies of 3.1. :~) Also, hacking a normally well-defined structure like .pkg, to support something beneficial but non-standard and thus subject to breakage, is probably not the best use of one's time. On the other hand, they might reasonably claim to be attempting to help raise the lowest common denominator, something we NeXT fans should be just a bit sympathetic towards. :~) -- Royce Howland, DKW Systems Corp. | "And since OS/2 2.0 is a 32-bit Everything is IMHO | operating system, programs are royce@splunge.uucp (NeXTMail OK) | easier to write and run faster, or kakwa!atlantis!splunge!royce | too." -ad for OS/2 2.0
From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: ImageViewer 0.9i filter services [?] Date: 2 Aug 1993 01:17:06 GMT Organization: Division of Information Technology, UW-Madison Message-ID: <23hpui$5cf@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <23hne5$2j0@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> In article <23hne5$2j0@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, Joseph W Reiss <jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> wrote: >I'm trying to get ImageViewer 0.9i to do like the docs say it can do >and automagically convert any image type (or at least those it >supports) to TIFF files for use in other programs. I can't seem to >get it to work, though. According to the docs, all I should need to >do is drop it into one of the Apps folders (I'm using LocalApps). >However, when I try to drag a GIF into PasteUp or look at it with the >Inspector, etc, it doesn't display at all. Try putting it in ~/Apps. The converters don't seem to load right otherwise. -- [Jess Anderson <> Division of Information Technology, University of Wisconsin] [Internet: anderson@macc.wisc.edu <-best, UUCP:{}!uwvax!macc.wisc.edu!anderson] [Room 3130 <> 1210 West Dayton Street / Madison WI 53706 <> Phone 608/262-5888] [-----------> There is more to life than the avoidance of death. <------------]
From: jmd@cube.handheld.com (Jim De Arras) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Processes limit in 3.1 solved? Date: 2 Aug 1993 02:12:17 GMT Organization: Hand Held Products, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <23ht61INN21u@clem.handheld.com> Has anyone figured out the processes limit issue? I'm hitting the "no more processes" error more and more, lately. Hostinfo shows about 60 processes active, and 100 threads, when this happens. I can telnet back in as another user, and easily start new processes, so it seems to be a per-user limit. Jim -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jim De Arras - WA4ONG | "Government is not reason; it is not eloquence; NRA,ILA | it is a force. Like fire, it is a dangerous jmd@handheld.com | servant and a fearful master." -- George Washington
From: glenn@rightbrain.com (Glenn Reid) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: ImageViewer 0.9i filter services [?] Message-ID: <1292@rtbrain.rightbrain.com> Date: 2 Aug 93 02:01:23 GMT References: <23hne5$2j0@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Sender: glenn@rightbrain.com Joseph W Reiss writes > I'm trying to get ImageViewer 0.9i to do like the docs say it can do > and automagically convert any image type (or at least those it > supports) to TIFF files for use in other programs. I can't seem to > get it to work, though. According to the docs, all I should need to > do is drop it into one of the Apps folders (I'm using LocalApps). > However, when I try to drag a GIF into PasteUp or look at it with the > Inspector, etc, it doesn't display at all. The problem may not be with ImageViewer, it's with PasteUp. PasteUp is currently compiled under 2.1, which doesn't support filters. If you convert the file to TIFF before you drag it into PasteUp, it should work fine. This problem should be fixed in an upcoming release of PasteUp. -- Glenn Reid NeXTmail: glenn@rightbrain.com RightBrain Software 415-326-2974 (NeXTfax 326-2977) Palo Alto, California Electronic Frontier Foundation, member #054
From: h0l847a@tamsun.tamu.edu (Hoseong La) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Copying between windows, any software? Date: 1 Aug 1993 22:00:58 -0500 Organization: tamu Distribution: world Message-ID: <23i01a$sc7@tamsun.tamu.edu> I have been trying to use Edit.app to edit some articles, but I do not know how to copy certain things from one article in one window to another article in another window. Those who used to use TPU edior on VAX will know what I want to do. Is there any software for NeXT so that I can do the same thing? Also, if there is one, does it work with .TIFF files, too? Please let me know if there is something I can use for this purpose. Thanks in advance. Hoseong La
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: MailCall & 3.1 bug Date: 2 Aug 1993 04:19:50 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <23i4l6$be2@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <1993Aug1.101344.8577@dhhalden.no> borrel@ludvigsen.dhhalden.no (Borre Ludvigsen) writes: > MailCall has become indispensable. It displays from and subject > in a small window in the lower left of the screen. You see the > importance of incoming mail at a glance. > > With NS 3.1 a bug has crept in. Updating the display window after > emptying /usr/spool/mail/<user> quits MailCall! > > How nice it would be if MailCall updated itself occasionally, > emptying the window when the spool file is gone. As it is now, > my workaround is to echo a space to create an empty spool file > before updating, that way at least it doesn't quit. > > Any one have a better fix? Just to be precise, these are all bugs in MailCall itself, and not really related to NS-3.1 (I can make all of them happen on a NS-2.1 system). MailCall was a "source code shareware" program, and I sent Dennis Smyers the money to get the source code from him when it came out. Since then I've occasionally played with it, and I have a version which fixes the above bugs (as well as some others) and adds a few new features. I never have to hit the "Update" menu item, for instance, and I added a default so each user can set where the MailCall window will show up. The only trick is, I'm not quite sure I should distribute it... I need to contact the original author and check with him first, I would think, just as a matter of being fair. Due to the above bug report I polished up the last few things I wanted to do, so I'll try to contact Dennis (via snail mail) this week. The version I have is compiled on a NS-2.1 system, is known to work on a NS-3.0 system, and should work fine on a NS-3.1 system. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: coconut@crash.cts.com (Brian Dear) Subject: Re: Will the following software run in 3.1... Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA Date: 01 Aug 93 21:11:50 PDT Message-ID: <1993Aug01.211150.1316@crash> References: <1291@rtbrain.rightbrain.com> Well, folks, the consensus seems to be that all the software I listed works OK in 3.1. >> Thanks to the many NeXTfolk who emailed me with their experiences. << FrameMaker 3.0, Illustrator 3.0, Virtuoso, Improv 1.0... all work according to those who responded. Only gotcha was that Robert Davis (davis@sonata.cc.purdue.edu) told me that DarkForest doesn't bark anymore in 3.1. :-( I think I can live with that, though. So, hey, NeXT, guess what -- you're about to get more money from Coconut. Here come our 3.1 upgrade orders... -- brian dear coconut computing, inc.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: burns@bellcore.com (James E. Burns) Subject: Marble Teleconnect on 3.1? for ISDN? Message-ID: <BURNS.93Aug2092016@gauss.bellcore.com> Sender: news@walter.bellcore.com Organization: Bellcore Distribution: usa Date: 2 Aug 93 09:20:16 I am about to purchase Marble Teleconnect, but their contact could not confirm it runs under 3.1. Can anyone vouch for it? Second question: Teleconnect is supposed to work with the Hayes ISDN adaptor. Will it also work with an AT&T ISDN phone? Thanks, jim burns James E. Burns burns@nova.bellcore.com Bellcore, NVC-3X114 Off: (908) 758-2819 331 Newman Springs Road Fax: (908) 758-4371 Red Bank, NJ 07701-5699, USA Home: (908) 219-6561 -- James E. Burns burns@nova.bellcore.com Bellcore, NVC-3X114 Off: (908) 758-2819 331 Newman Springs Road Fax: (908) 758-4371 Red Bank, NJ 07701-5699, USA Home: (908) 219-6561
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bruce@TotSysSoft.com (Bruce Gingery) Subject: Re: Copying between windows, any software? Message-ID: <1993Aug2.082039.3983@ToTSySSoft.com> Sender: news@ToTSySSoft.com Organization: Total System Software References: <23i01a$sc7@tamsun.tamu.edu> Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1993 08:20:39 GMT In article <23i01a$sc7@tamsun.tamu.edu> h0l847a@tamsun.tamu.edu (Hoseong La) writes: -> I have been trying to use Edit.app to edit some -> articles, but I do not know how to copy certain -> things from one article in one window to another -> article in another window. Those who used to use -> TPU edior on VAX will know what I want to do. Is -> there any software for NeXT so that I can do the -> same thing? -> -> Also, if there is one, does it work with .TIFF -> files, too? -> -> Please let me know if there is something I can use -> for this purpose. Never having used TPU, I'm not positive what your're asking but it is possible to copy text, with or without formatting between Rich Text (.rtf) files using Edit.app, and may include any graphics in embedded .tiff files (.rtfd packages). Hilight the area to be copied with the Mouse by double-clicking, triple-clicking, or dragging across the area to be copied from. Then either press Command-C (copy) or Command-X (cut) or select their options from the ``Edit'' submenu. Now activate the window where you wish to Paste the saved text (and graphics). Press Control-V, or select Paste from the Edit submenu and the text (and graphics) will appear. Can you copy from something which does not allow such hilighting, or from an application which does not have an Edit submenu? Yes, but generally only as a bitmap (.tiff) image, using another service such as Grab. It's too bad they removed the ``User'' NeXT-Library documentation from v3.1 NEXTSTEP, but it has been placed into the interactive help in most cases, at least in applications which support 3.x linked help. Bruce
From: perkins@sidney.cps.msu.edu (Stephen Perkins) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Is there a NEXTSTEP alternative to KMS Date: 2 Aug 1993 15:36:56 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Distribution: world Message-ID: <23jcao$1f9@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> Keywords: Hypertext I am looking for an authoring tool for the NeXT. I have previously used KMS under X, but it requires a three button mouse (not a mouse that can emulate three buttons). What I would like is a package that allows me to dynamically create frames (cards if your in Hypercard) and easily link between them. The weakness of the current products that I have heard about (Edit, Diagram!, Craftman) is that you must explicitely create files (and give them names) and link points (which, in many cases, you must also name). I start to run out of names (and I lose my train of thought). Anybody know of a software solution? I'll summarize if there is any interest. - Steve ==================================================================== Stephen Perkins | Department of Computer Science | perkins@cps.msu.edu Michigan State University |
From: lpratt@slate.mines.colorado.edu (Lorien Pratt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Looking for a BackSpace module that rereads screen image, for weather Message-ID: <1993Aug2.154848.22248@slate.mines.colorado.edu> Date: 2 Aug 93 15:48:48 GMT Sender: lpratt@slate.mines.colorado.edu (Lorien Pratt) Organization: Colorado School of Mines Hi, I posted a while ago asking about how to get weather images displayed on my background. I am almost all of the way there, except now I need to BackSpace module that will re-read the image that it shows every time it goes into idle mode. Does anybody have one? Thanks for any pointers or advice. FYI, I've also included instructions below on how to get regular weather updates. --Lori Every hour or so: ftp to vmd.cso.uiuc.edu, cd to directory WX, get SA.GIF, run: jpeg SA.GIF -o SA.tiff Set BackSpace to read SA.tiff. -- L. Y. Pratt Dept. of Math and Computer Science lpratt@franklinite.mines.colorado.edu Colorado School of Mines (303) 273-3878 (work) 402 Stratton (303) 278-4552 (home) Golden, CO 80401, USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: silbar@cantina.lanl.gov (Dick Silbar) Subject: Copying from Mail.app (Was: Copying between windows, any software?) Message-ID: <1993Aug2.174654.7156@newshost.lanl.gov> Sender: news@newshost.lanl.gov Organization: Los Alamos National Lab References: <1993Aug2.082039.3983@ToTSySSoft.com> Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1993 17:46:54 GMT In article <1993Aug2.082039.3983@ToTSySSoft.com> bruce@TotSysSoft.com (Bruce Gingery) writes: > In article <23i01a$sc7@tamsun.tamu.edu> > h0l847a@tamsun.tamu.edu (Hoseong La) writes: > [deleted, on copy and paste from Edit.app] One thing that has annoyed me above selecting something from a mail message for copying into an Edit window is that, doing so, always turns that Edit file into RTF. Which I thrn have to "make ASCII" to get back to where I wanted. But, maybe there is something I'm missing--is there a way to avoid this? Dick Silbar
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: nico@imani.cam.org (Nicolas Dore) Subject: Re: What is Open Sesame Message-ID: <1993Aug2.151719.3822@imani.cam.org> Sender: nico@imani.cam.org References: <1993Jul30.182121.3058@weston.com> Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1993 15:17:19 GMT In article <1993Jul30.182121.3058@weston.com> jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) writes: > What is Open Sesame? What does it do. While we're on the subject, does anybody know the load "- NXHost"ing (which is what Sesame lets you do without the command line) puts on a network? (i.e. How much traffic does the WindowServer-app generate?) Just wondering. Ciao > Thanks > -- > Wes Spears <-------> jspears@weston.com (NeXTMail Welcome) > The Weston Group > 8524 Highway 6 North, 162, Houston, TX 77095 -- Nicolas Dore nico@imani.cam.org - - - - - - - - - CAREFUL! POLITICAL COMMENT ZONE!! - - - - - - - - - > "If I can't dance, I don't want to be in your revolution!" < > Emma Goldman (to Vladimir Ilitch Oulianov [Lenin], 1917) <
From: madler@cco.caltech.edu (Mark Adler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Rocks1.8fat.tar requires gunzip? Date: 2 Aug 1993 19:49:12 GMT Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena Message-ID: <23jr3oINNcd@gap.caltech.edu> References: <88640@ut-emx.uucp> <23a73r$bf0@alamut.cognet.ucla.edu> >> takes up 100K as a binary, it doesn't make sense to copy it Try 40K. (It doesn't have to be fat, since it is only needed on pre-3.1 systems.) gzip saves far more than 40K on these sorts of archives, so it is always worthwhile to include it. Oh, and you can compress (old Unix compress) it to 27K. Mark Adler madler@cco.caltech.edu
From: annard@theborg.stack.urc.tue.nl (Annard Brouwer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: QuickBase information summary Date: 2 Aug 1993 10:40:27 GMT Organization: the Borg Distribution: world Message-ID: <23iqurINN88@theborg.stack.urc.tue.nl> Hi there, A long time ago I asked the net for some information about QuickBase by SofDesign, well after having been without net access for two weeks (*aaargh*) here's the summary I promised. Note that I've been reducing the information a bit and thus may violate the spirit of the original contents of the article. I have the originals here and can mail them to anyone who likes to receive them. Robert L. Masterson of Software Services and Solutions, Inc. wrote: They have been using the software for over a year since version 1.9beta and have worked with SofDesign to improve the product. # QuickBase is extremely fast and easy to use. It supports all the # features of the DBKit, including image storage, without any # limitations (unlike Sybase, which cannot handle images of any # reasonable size). DBKit programming with QuickBase is just like # DBKit programming with any other relational database, which is to # say, relatively easy for many applications. # # QuickBase also has its own object-based API which allows access to # features, such as notification of database changes, that the DBKit # cannot represent. SofDesign sells separately a library of objects, # the QBTools, that builds on this API to give a range of high level # objects (image views, table views, etc...) that take advantage of # enterprise-wide notification of data changes and other QuickBase # features. This provides an alternative to the DBKit, and these # objects can do more than the equivalent objects on the DBKit palette. # # You can build any sort of relational model in QuickBase, and it # supports a wide range of datatypes, including char *, int, long, # date, time, blob (arbitrary object or binary data), and others. # We use it extensively in a number of products, from both the DBKit # interface and the QuickBase object-based API. They seem to be very happy with the product especially with regard to the costs compared to other, more expensive, systems. Garance A. Drosehn of Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute wrote: # First off, QuickBase is more of a database engine than a database # program. By that I mean it's more of a programmer's resource than # something that average users might use for building databases. It # usually gets discussed in comp.sys.next.programmer instead of the # software newsgroup. # # QuickBase lets the programmer use a relational database via a few # different interfaces. You can either use some objects (in the # programming sense) which understand SQL commands, or you can use # the DBKit interface, or I think there might be some other options # there too. One nice thing about this is that you can write both # NeXTSTEP applications for your database, or regular command-line # interfaces to the same database (which is nice if people telnet # into your machine to access the information). # # I've done some work with 4th Dimension on the Mac, and it really # seems to me that the combination of QuickBase on the NeXT along # with the Interface Builder would be a superior set of tools for # creating small or medium-sized custom databases. For a large # database, you'd probably want something running on a larger and # faster machine than a NeXT anyway (QuickBase has the database itself # on a NeXT, you aren't hooking up to some database server on a # non-NeXTSTEP platform). Thanks for all the people who helped me finding information about this product. I've been given two email addresses to find out more: sdc@gun.com to get in contact with someone from SofDesign sdc_demo@gun.com to get a demo-version of QuickBase (at the moment for black hardware only) Annard --- Annard Brouwer annard@stack.urc.tue.nl (NeXTmail appreciated) People? You can forget it.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.marketplace,rec.aviation,rmnug.general From: jbrown@qdeck.com (Jordan Brown) Subject: Re: Pilot's Logbook... in NeXTStep? 'Already been done? Organization: Quarterdeck Office Systems, Santa Monica CA Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1993 21:49:41 GMT Message-ID: <1993Aug02.214941.6198@qdeck.com> Keywords: flight logbook, nextstep app, reinventing rolling rocks with wood axles References: <1993Aug1.094724.4762@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> In article <1993Aug1.094724.4762@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> karl@khaos.com writes: >I have it in mind, to create a logbook_app for flight logging. > >Most certainly it's been done a bizillion times for other platforms (even >though, to date, i've never played with one), and i'd bet a few bucks that >it's already been done before for NeXTStep. My personal solution is pretty low-tech, but works quite well. I have a text file containing logbook entries in pretty much the same format as my paper logbook. I have an awk program that eats the text file and spits out interesting statistics. Easy, portable, flexible, etc. If anybody wants a copy, drop me a line and I'll e-mail or post it. I posted a version a couple of years ago, but the newer version is better - it totals things like "retract time" and "tailwheel time" automagically based on aircraft type. (This also allowed me to eliminate the ASEL and AMEL columns. That was the real reason for the mod - I wanted to add another column (SIC I think) and there wasn't space!)
From: ford@euclid.uoregon.edu (Benjamin J. Ford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXTTeX question Date: 2 Aug 1993 22:24:54 GMT Organization: University of Oregon Network Services Distribution: usa Message-ID: <23k47m$i0j@pith.uoregon.edu> Keywords: TEXINPUTS Help! I want to store the postscript files which I include in a tex document in a directory of their own. I can change the environment variable TEXINPUTS so that tex and dvips can find the pictures, but I can't figure out how to get TeXView to find them. The NeXT TeX manual (ntman.dvi) says that TeXview uses the same environment variable (TEXINPUTS), but where does it get its value for TEXINPUTS? I can't figure out how to reset it because TeXview isn't running in any shell. exporting the value of TEXINPUT from a shell script doesn't help either. Thanks for any help. Replies by email please. Ben Ford ford@euclid.uoregon.edu
From: loki@goat.geo.arizona.edu (Quaeler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,sci.geo.geology,sci.geo.fluids Subject: Water 2.0 released Message-ID: <23k1f6$2g3@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu> Date: 2 Aug 93 21:37:42 GMT Organization: University of Arizona UNIX Users Group Water. written in NeXTStep. (anonymous ftp from nova.cc.purdue.edu) A program to calculate dependent state, thermodynamic, transport, and electrostatic properties of liquid and vapor in the H2O-System as a function of user-specified state conditions and unit and triple point conventions. Covers a range in temperature from circa -20 to 2250 C, and pressure circa 0.01 to 30000 bars; at temperatures less than about 220 bars the phases of ice I through VII bound the retrieval region. Water permits the curious user to the explore temperature, pressure and density space and retrieve corresponding property values or obtain incremental values of user selected properties. NXYPLOT by Jesperson and Pulliam provides support through Services for plotting. This equation of state has a critical point at P=220 bars and T = 374.15 C; a region where vigourous acitivity occurs within the earth's crust. Water 2.0 features the ability to examine H2-O characteristics through multiple parameter increments. Output formats can be user specified and include NXYPlot friendly, NeXTContour friendly, and verbose output. Water 2.0 reports data correctly over the 2-phase surface and provides an elaborate help section. Water 2.0 is compiled under NSOS3.0. The computing engine was written in C by M. Loki Demsey; it was optimized and rewritten from an original FORTRAN engine. James Johnson and Dr. Denis Norton wrote the code and added pieces of pre-written code from, Haar,Gallagher,Kell; NBS/NRC Steam Tables, Hemisphere Publishing Corp,1984, and Levelt, Sengers, et al., 1983. This code and its basis are documented in: Johnson; Subroutine H2O88, Theoretical Geochemistry Software Library, 1988 and in Johnson, and Norton; Critical Phenomena in Hydrothermal..., American Journal of Science,June 1991 Version 2.0, Freeware 1993. Demsey, Norton, Johnson. denis norton University of Arizona , Geology Department denis@quartz.tucson.az.us or nort@goat.geo.arizona.edu (NeXT mail ) m loki demsey (Quaeler Software) loki@goat.geo.arizona.edu
From: borchers@poogh.llnl.gov (Robert R. Borchers) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Adobe Acrobat Date: 2 Aug 1993 22:38:51 GMT Organization: Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, NCD Message-ID: <23k51r$hrr@lll-winken.llnl.gov> I just got copies of the Acrobat applications, Exchange and Distiller, for the Mac and Windows. I am very impressed with the results. In one case distiller took a 2 MByte postscript file and reduced it to 20K and the printed output still looks very good. It would really be nice if some kind soul out there would at least do a reader for the Acrobat Portable Document Format (PDF) files. I am told that the file spec is public. If that kind soul wants to practice, there are some PDF files on my machine in anonymous ftp. Bob -- Robert R. Borchers L-414 Livermore, Ca 94551 borchers@llnl.gov NeXTmail Welcome
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: moose@svcdudes.com Subject: Re: Larger Terminal in MicroPhone Pro? Message-ID: <1993Jul31.024445.28433@svcdudes.com> Sender: news@svcdudes.com Organization: Software Ventures, Inc. References: <238qes$r62@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Distribution: na Date: Sat, 31 Jul 93 02:44:45 GMT In article <238qes$r62@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Joseph W Reiss) writes: > > > Has anyone managed some kind of hack to get MicroPhone to give a > bigger terminal? What are the chances of this being builtin to future > releases? As things stand right now, this is the only thing that is > keeping me from thoroughly enjoying this program. This is the highest priority to fix for 2.0. But 2.0 may be a while yet. Then again, when serial ports work under Intel machines, maybe sales will justify a 2.0 :->. > > P.S.: Has anyone else had problems submitting to the MicroPhone > mailing list? Has anyone gotten any messages from it recently? I've been receiving notes. I even received yours. I responded to it, so I thought you had gotten it. -- Michael Rutman | moose@svcdudes.com Cubist | makes me a NeXT programmer Software Ventures | maker of MicroPhone Pro #include <std.disclaimer> | really offensive political statement
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Need suggestions for NS/FIP software (LONG) Date: 1 Aug 1993 17:12:01 -0000 Organization: Palumbian Research Labs Message-ID: <23gth1$h3@marsu.tynet.sub.org> References: <238tn2$a4@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit fischedj@ NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (David J. Fischer) writes: > Spreadsheet: Take a look at Xanthus Questor and Graphity. Don't ask me about their features, but they are said to be very professional. > Word Processor: Invesigate some time in learning TeX. It is worth the effort, believe me. And NeXTSTEP is one of the most beautiful and fastest platforms for TeX. > Image Editing: >Image and Pinnacle's WetPaint. Both seem robust and intuitive. What's best? Find out yourself - I did not make my own decision about this yet. Compose In Color is another neat app, but not available for Intel yet. > Drawing: Draw has met my needs well in the past for making simple >charts of laboratory setups for school-work/research. I am now considering >buying a more robust package. LightHouse Design's Diagram is powerful, but it >seems more for organizational charting than drawing. Could I make an optics >palette (that's what I study) with Laser, Lens, and Mirror objects? What about >Appsoft's Draw -- is it a stable, powerful package? The version of AppsoftDraw on the CD is the most unstable app I ever met. I cannot even import tiffs without crash. > Telecommunications: Is there is anything to utilize a modem? This >doesn't convcern me much now, but I know others who want this support as soon >as they get NS/FIP installed. I have heard of SLiPCommander (sp?), but beyond >that I am completely ignorant on the topic. I haven't heard of SLIP commander for NS/I. We have to wait for the serial driver update before adapting SLIP... >Are there any other "Gotta have it" apps out there? ImageViewer, MetroSuction, Digit, TickleServices, nn. > Games: If I want games, I'll probably buy a SNES, or King's Quest type >games for DOS. But hey, maybe there is something worthwhile on the NeXT. Don't >say Rocks!; $50 for Asteroids is too much. Xoxeroids, PacMan, Tetris. -- /dev Markus Wenzel, University of Stuttgart /usr/spool/mail mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org ~/.ircrc/nick Marsu /etc/motd NeXTSTEP for Cray computers? Where? When?? How???
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Cub'X-Window Demo for NS/FIP Date: 1 Aug 1993 17:15:43 -0000 Organization: Palumbian Research Labs Message-ID: <23gtnv$hu@marsu.tynet.sub.org> References: <1993Jul28.150119.22940@cubx.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit claire@cubx.com (Claire Normand) writes: >Both Cub'X-Window demo packages placed on archive servers cs.orst.edu and >sonata cc.purdue.edu are corrupted and cannot be installed. >The package on cs.orst.edu in pub/next/submissions will be replaced in >the very near future. >Please accept our apologies for any inconvenience this may have created. Who's paying my $10 phone bill to get it via modem to Germany? -- /dev Markus Wenzel, University of Stuttgart /usr/spool/mail mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org ~/.ircrc/nick Marsu /etc/motd NeXTSTEP for Cray computers? Where? When?? How???
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: What is Open Sesame Message-ID: <1993Aug2.230328.2405@yvax.byu.edu> From: john@kolob.byu.edu (John Peterson) Date: 2 Aug 93 23:03:28 -0700 References: <1993Aug2.151719.3822@imani.cam.org> In article <1993Aug2.151719.3822@imani.cam.org> writes: > While we're on the subject, does anybody know the load "- NXHost"ing > (which is what Sesame lets you do without the command line) > puts on a network? (i.e. How much traffic does the WindowServer-app > generate?) > Not much, really. My packet analyzer only hits about 3% utilization while I type this (about 100 packets/second). I can get up to 250 or so by typing fast or bringing up a window. But these are short bursts. It has a steady stream of what seems to be pointer info, so a lot of them on one wire might get bad. The packets are small, so it would be so bad. How's that for a nebulous answer? -- John Peterson -- Networked Computer Support -- Brigham Young University Internet: John_Peterson@byu.edu Phone: (801) 378-5007
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) Subject: Re: Adobe Acrobat Message-ID: <1993Aug3.050627.8248@csus.edu> Sender: news@csus.edu Organization: San Francisco State University References: <23k51r$hrr@lll-winken.llnl.gov> <23kb7k$7lk@news.mic.ucla.edu> Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1993 05:06:27 GMT In article <23kb7k$7lk@news.mic.ucla.edu> iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) writes: >There was a distiller.app on NeXT out there a long time ago---probably >the first there ever was. (I have a vague recollection that maybe >Glenn Reid had written it.) Sounds right. > The author abandoned it because NeXT/Adobe >took out the Display Postscript operator that allowed file-writing for >security reasons (one could destroy files by looking at a mailed >Postscript image). Real Pity. I liked distiller a lot, too. Well, actually, NeXT didn't take it out, they just sort of disabled it. Eventually they put out a NeXTanswer explaining an undocumented way to get it back, and then introduced a supported DPSCreateNonsecureContext() call with 3.0. -=EPS=-
From: glenn@rightbrain.com (Glenn Reid) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Adobe Acrobat Message-ID: <1295@rtbrain.rightbrain.com> Date: 3 Aug 93 05:43:58 GMT References: <23kb7k$7lk@news.mic.ucla.edu> Sender: glenn@rightbrain.com Ivo Welch writes > In article <23k51r$hrr@lll-winken.llnl.gov> borchers@llnl.gov writes: > >I just got copies of the Acrobat applications, Exchange and Distiller, for > >the Mac and Windows. I am very impressed with the results. In one case > >distiller took a 2 MByte postscript file and reduced it to 20K and the > >printed output still looks very good. > > There was a distiller.app on NeXT out there a long time ago---probably > the first there ever was. (I have a vague recollection that maybe > Glenn Reid had written it.) The author abandoned it because NeXT/Adobe > took out the Display Postscript operator that allowed file-writing for > security reasons (one could destroy files by looking at a mailed > Postscript image). Real Pity. I liked distiller a lot, too. Yeah, I wrote Distiller.app. It was a wrapper for a PostScript distillery that I had written even some years before that. It is perhaps the grandfather of the new Distiller app in Acrobat, and Adobe owns it (since I wrote it when I was there) but theirs is a full-blown PostScript interpreter modified to distill, whereas mine was simply a PostScript program that redefined everything in sight to do the distilling. Part of what this means is that the old Distiller.app that I wrote is incompatible with the Distiller that Adobe supplies with Acrobat (totally different output format, although it's a similar idea). My distiller wrote out PostScript files. Theirs writes out PDF files, which are not PostScript, although they're based on the same imaging model. It's all very cool stuff; I'm glad Adobe is moving forward with it. -- Glenn Reid NeXTmail: glenn@rightbrain.com RightBrain Software 415-326-2974 (NeXTfax 326-2977) Palo Alto, California Electronic Frontier Foundation, member #054
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: u8021804@cc.nctu.edu.tw () Subject: InstantTeX installation error Message-ID: <1993Aug3.065652.12571@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw> Sender: usenet@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw Organization: National Chiao Tung University Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1993 06:56:52 GMT Hi, I downloaded InstantTeX from cs.orst.edu. It is now free and is FAT. But when I installed it on a NS/FIP machine, I got some error at the end of the installa-tion. The error message is: Running installation program ... /private/tmp/.InstantTeX.tmp/InstantTeX.post_install: /InstantTeX/InstantTeX.pkg/TeXviewRemover.app/TeXviewRemover: cannot execute **** There were errors while installing InstantTeX.pkg. .. errors. Anyone knows what's wrong. And any install it sucessfully? TC Huang
From: madon@disuns2.epfl.ch (Dominik Madon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: InstantTeX installation error Date: 3 Aug 1993 07:42:56 GMT Organization: Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne Message-ID: <23l4u0$pj5@disuns2.epfl.ch> References: <1993Aug3.065652.12571@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw> u8021804@cc.nctu.edu.tw wrote: : Hi, : I downloaded InstantTeX from cs.orst.edu. It is now free and is FAT. But when : I installed it on a NS/FIP machine, I got some error at the end of the installa-tion. The error message is: : Running installation program ... /private/tmp/.InstantTeX.tmp/InstantTeX.post_install: /InstantTeX/InstantTeX.pkg/TeXviewRemover.app/TeXviewRemover: cannot execute : **** There were errors while installing InstantTeX.pkg. : .. errors. : Anyone knows what's wrong. And any install it sucessfully? I have the same problem. Dominik
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: giddings@whitewater.chem.wisc.edu (Michael Giddings) Subject: What happened to Marble Teleconnect Message-ID: <1993Aug3.005635.9811@pslu1.psl.wisc.edu> Sender: news@pslu1.psl.wisc.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Physical Sciences Lab, UW-Madison Date: Tue, 3 Aug 93 00:56:35 GMT I have been using Louis M.'s Transys SLIP package happily on black hardware, but checked the "Third Party Products" catalog to see if Marble might have their SLIP for NS/intel out (now or soon), and they weren't even listed. Does anyone know if they still exist? If so, how to contact them? Thanks, -- Michael Giddings | DNA sequencing technologies giddings@whitewater.chem.wisc.edu | Artificial Intelligence giddings@cs.wisc.edu | Sciences NeXT User Group founder |---------\-----------/|\------------/---------|
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Quick Guide to the comp.sys.next.* newsgroups Date: 3 Aug 1993 00:19:52 -0400 Organization: Next Announcements Distribution: world Message-ID: <23kp18$6e4@digifix.digifix.com> The current menagerie: comp.sys.next.advocacy This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. comp.sys.next.announce Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. comp.sys.next.bugs A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well. comp.sys.next.hardware Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. comp.sys.next.marketplace NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. comp.sys.next.misc For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! comp.sys.next.programmer Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. comp.sys.next.software This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. comp.sys.next.sysadmin Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Written by: Eric P. Scott eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU Minor editing: Scott Anguish -- - Scott Anguish - sanguish@digifix.com (NextMail) next-announce@digifix.com (comp.sys.next.announce submissions)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.bill-gates,comp.os.linux,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software From: ahern@cray.com (Sean Ahern) Subject: Re: From your friends at UNIXWorld Message-ID: <ahern.744367512@teak38> References: <1993Jul16.210211.21253@Princeton.EDU> <1993Jul23.144123.18893@pencom.com> <1993Jul24.165535.3109@unislc.slc.unisys.com> <22tbmo$ecp@cmcl2.NYU.EDU> <2321s7$8a9@ionews.io.org> <1993Jul27.152409.20253@unislc.slc.unisys.com> <1993Jul28.071054.24227@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> <CAwIxs.B6@victrola.wa.com> <1993Jul30.004755.28026@unislc.slc.unisys.com> Distribution: world,happynet Date: 3 Aug 93 03:46:25 CDT thayne@unislc.slc.unisys.com (Thayne Forbes) writes: >And while we are at it. What does it say about you if you are having >trouble loading a OS like DOS? Hell I know of retail stores that have >twelve year old kids loading it. But doesn't everyone know that twelve-year-olds are the smartest people on the planet when it comes to computers? I know *I* knew more about computers when I was 12 than after I went to college. -- Sean Ahern--------------------ahern@cray.com-------------------Cray Research Programming is an art form that fights back.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc From: bstone@acs.ucalgary.ca (Blake Stone) Subject: Re: Sybase + NS3.0 Message-ID: <Aug3.142744.70349@acs.ucalgary.ca> Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1993 14:27:44 GMT Distribution: na References: <1993Jul29.181741.20615@leland.Stanford.EDU> Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta > Hello, > > My friend is about to upgrade to 3.0, but is worried about > problems he may encounter running Sybase. I know there were > some problems with the Administrator application; what were > these? All administrator functions start two shells, both attempting the same thing at the same time. > are there workarounds? Yup. Close on of the shells really quickly. :-) Sybase (or NeXT?) did release an updated version compatible with 3.0, it may be difficult to find, though. > any other caveats? I've been using it without problems, but my use is quite light. -- Blake W. Stone | DKW Systems Corporation Chief Technical Officer | A N[EXTSTEP,eXT[STEP,step,Step]] VAR bstone@acs.ucalgary.ca | | ... couldn't have been ME
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: ParcPlace's VisualWorks Message-ID: <2AUG199308262483@violet.ccit.arizona.edu> From: citdem@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (MCCOLLAM, DON) Date: 2 Aug 1993 15:26:24 GMT Distribution: world Organization: University of Arizona News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41 [I didn't get much of a response to my earlier post; so I thought I'd try again.] If you have ParcPlace's VisualWorks for the NeXT, I'd like to hear from you. Specifically, I am looking for advice regarding the Sybase driver (based on Sun sources). Thanks. Don McCollam citdem@happy.rc.arizona.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bstone@acs.ucalgary.ca (Blake Stone) Subject: Re: Stop the MAB FUD! Message-ID: <Aug3.144537.29604@acs.ucalgary.ca> Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1993 14:45:37 GMT Distribution: na References: <1993Jul29.184752.12039@wuecl.wustl.edu> <239d17$n7e@homer.cs.mcgill.ca> Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta > > > Well, if this package is a FAT binary, then it can only be > > > run on 3.1 systems. If you are running it on a 3.1 system, > > > the same system can be used for installation. > > Actually, you are wrong. Although it is a FAT binary, I am > > able to run it just fine on my NS 3.0 cube. I am not sure > > what the FAT format is, but I have been able to run several > > of the FAT binaries that have been posted on the ftp sites. > Be careful! The fact that you happened to be able to run a > particular piece of 3.1 software on 3.0 is NOT A FEATURE OF > 3.1. Errr... it has been touted as one by NeXT. They tried as hard as they could to make sure that people running 3.0 could run new applications and messed up in a number of notable ways: - Only MABs work... fat bundles, (sigh) fat libraries, fat precompiled headers and so forth certainly don't - Anything using the Indexing Kit heavily is likely to break, not because of API incompatibilities, but because of the number of workarounds necessary to get it to work at all in 3.0... - DBKit shared some of the Indexing Kit quirkiness I certainly expect people to be able to run my software on both 3.0 and 3.1 and haven't heard otherwise! -- Blake W. Stone | DKW Systems Corporation Chief Technical Officer | A N[EXTSTEP,eXT[STEP,step,Step]] VAR bstone@acs.ucalgary.ca | | ... couldn't have been ME
From: iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Adobe Acrobat Date: 3 Aug 1993 00:24:20 GMT Organization: UCLA, Anderson Graduate School Of Management Message-ID: <23kb7k$7lk@news.mic.ucla.edu> References: <23k51r$hrr@lll-winken.llnl.gov> In article <23k51r$hrr@lll-winken.llnl.gov> borchers@llnl.gov writes: >I just got copies of the Acrobat applications, Exchange and Distiller, for >the Mac and Windows. I am very impressed with the results. In one case >distiller took a 2 MByte postscript file and reduced it to 20K and the >printed output still looks very good. There was a distiller.app on NeXT out there a long time ago---probably the first there ever was. (I have a vague recollection that maybe Glenn Reid had written it.) The author abandoned it because NeXT/Adobe took out the Display Postscript operator that allowed file-writing for security reasons (one could destroy files by looking at a mailed Postscript image). Real Pity. I liked distiller a lot, too. At this point, I'd be happy if there was some program competent enough to take all sort of "empirical" Postscript (i.e. that can be displayed by "Preview" although Preview starts with an error message), and produces eps. /ivo welch
From: iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTTeX question Date: 3 Aug 1993 00:27:22 GMT Organization: UCLA, Anderson Graduate School Of Management Distribution: usa Message-ID: <23kbda$7ls@news.mic.ucla.edu> References: <23k47m$i0j@pith.uoregon.edu> Keywords: TEXINPUTS The manual states that TeXView source .cshrc. I recently ran into TeXView problems after I deleted my .cshrc. (I switched to another shell (zsh).) /ivo welch In article <23k47m$i0j@pith.uoregon.edu> ford@euclid.uoregon.edu writes: >Help! >I want to store the postscript files which I include in a tex document in >a directory of their own. I can change the environment variable TEXINPUTS >so that tex and dvips can find the pictures, but I can't figure out how to >get TeXView to find them. The NeXT TeX manual (ntman.dvi) says that >TeXview uses the same environment variable (TEXINPUTS), but where does it >get its value for TEXINPUTS? I can't figure out how to reset it because >TeXview isn't running in any shell. exporting the value of TEXINPUT from >a shell script doesn't help either. > >Thanks for any help. Replies by email please. > >Ben Ford >ford@euclid.uoregon.edu
From: iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: InstantTeX installation error Date: 3 Aug 1993 15:29:48 GMT Organization: UCLA, Anderson Graduate School Of Management Message-ID: <23m09c$6i7@news.mic.ucla.edu> References: <1993Aug3.065652.12571@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw> <23l4u0$pj5@disuns2.epfl.ch> In article <23l4u0$pj5@disuns2.epfl.ch> madon@disuns2.epfl.ch (Dominik Madon) writes: I installed it on a NS/FIP machine, I got some error at the end of the installa-tion. The error message is: Running installation program ... /private/tmp/.InstantTeX.tmp/InstantTeX.post_install: /InstantTeX/InstantTeX.pkg/TeXviewRemover.app/TeXviewRemover: cannot execute **** There were errors while installing InstantTeX.pkg. .. errors. Are you trying to install this on a NS/Intel machine? If so, the reason for your problem is that TeXviewRemover is compiled only for 68040 code. Because other executables in IT may have the same problem, I decided to hand-remove all IT files from my system. I hope the author of IT will fix this problem. It looked like a very nice package "from afar." /ivo welch
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk (Scott A. McIntyre) Subject: Re: IRC with NS interface Message-ID: <scott.744391899@shrug> Organization: University of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK, NE1 7RU Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1993 15:31:39 GMT References: <CB3qvn.JED@mailer.cc.fsu.edu> There was a NeXTSTEP IRC interface program written by someone in Germany several months ago, but it was highly buggy and basically didn't work, since then anyway the servers ahve gone through a big change and most older clients won't work with them. If you want a nice userinterface on IRC and can use X, I suggest you get zircon, it's available from catless.ncl.ac.uk in pub/ you need Tcl/Tk and the DP extensions for tcl as well...but these all compiled fine on my NeXT running Cub'X 4.0.....its still in early beta but it is being developed and it can do most functions of the IRC II client at the moment... If anyone has questions about IRC, i can probably tell you the answer. scott -- EMAIL: S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk OR scott@shrug.dur.ac.uk (NeXTmail) SNAIL: Pyschment of Departology, University of Durham, Durham, DH1 3LE "Did you know that the computer invented itself?" - SNL
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: perstoro@uriela.in-berlin.de (Wilhelm Schaefer) Subject: what about inexpensive 2D-Animation Message-ID: <1993Aug3.143116.25268@uriela.in-berlin.de> Keywords: 2D-Animation Sender: perstoro@uriela.in-berlin.de Organization: NeXAPP Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1993 14:31:16 GMT I need informations about programs, which I may produce 2D-Animations or simple Titeling with. I need to output this via dimension-board. Any hints are welcome! my address: grisu@uriela.in-berlin.de -- *********************************************************************** *| Wilhelm Schaefer| perstoro@uriela.in-berlin.de | NeXTmail please! |* *| NeXT EnTHUSIAST | Voice +49 30 / 395 31 91 | FAX +49 30/39547 49|* ***********************************************************************
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: shawn@monitor.com Subject: NSFIP pared-down minimum space ???? Message-ID: <CB734r.104@monitor.com> Sender: shawn@monitor.com (Shawn Broderick) Organization: Monitor Company / IE Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1993 17:55:39 GMT does anyone know what MB ballpark you can trim down NSFIP to? i've trimmed down NS 3.0 black to 70MB before, but don't know what to expect for 3.1 on white hardware. any info? shawn -------------------------------------------------------- Shawn Broderick Monitor Company / Information Engineering Director, BCS NeXT shawn@monitor.com (617) 252-2090 -------------------------------------------------------- FADE IN A tenement building on Manhattan's Lower East Side. Early morning traffic is audible, as is the cry of the fishmongers. -------------------------------------------------------- -- -------------------------------------------------------- Shawn Broderick Monitor Company / Information Engineering Director, BCS NeXT
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,alt.fan.bill-gates,comp.os.linux Subject: Re: From your friends at UNIXWorld Message-ID: <1993Aug3.112036.8991@paperboy.ids.net> From: green@ids.net (Andy Green) Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1993 11:20:36 GMT Sender: usenet@paperboy.ids.net (Usenet) References: <1993Jul16.210211.21253@Princeton.EDU> <1993Jul23.144123.18893@pencom.com> <1993Jul30.004755.28026@unislc.slc.unisys.com> Organization: InteleCom Data Systems In article <1993Jul30.004755.28026@unislc.slc.unisys.com>, thayne@unislc.slc.unisys.com (Thayne Forbes) says: > >Vince Skahan (vince@victrola.wa.com) wrote: >: abulhak@nyx.cs.du.edu (Andrew_-_Bulhak) writes: >: >thayne@unislc.slc.unisys.com (Thayne Forbes) writes: > >: >>: As far as Linux, well, you can not really complain because it is free... > >: >>What I meant was it takes a degree in CS just to get the damn thing >: >>loaded. It is an example to show the difference between a slick >: >>installation and a crappy one. > >: you must speak a different variant of english. >: I installed mcc-interim linux in one try with *barely* skimming the >: documentation. It was certainly simpler to install than building a >: DOS5.0 system with MS-Windows when you spend your whole day fighting >: config.sys to loadhi. >: I've also installed SLS in one try with *no* documentation. >: How simple are you looking for it to get ? > >Hey Vince. Bite me. I distinctly remember you writing to me for >advice and help loading Linux last February. Would it help you if >I dredged up the old E-mail and posted it? > >And while we are at it. What does it say about you if you are having >trouble loading a OS like DOS? Hell I know of retail stores that have >twelve year old kids loading it. Well what can anyone expect, it's still a beta release... did you expect a gray wall to go along with your FREE unix operating system? (reference to VMS doc set, that is) Andy
From: alexk@sapwdf.UUCP (Alexander Koerner) Newsgroups: comp.databases.sybase,comp.sys.next.software,comp.databases.informix Subject: Re: SYBASE Woes (was Re: Sybase database available for NSFIP?) Message-ID: <4770@sapwdf.UUCP> Date: 3 Aug 93 18:47:35 GMT References: <CAuowF.1D7@news.cis.umn.edu> <1993Jul28.184513.7935@crash> <1993Aug1.003947.4173@splunge.uucp> Organization: Informix Software Germany In article <1993Aug1.003947.4173@splunge.uucp> royce@splunge.uucp (Royce Howland) writes: >Anything that anybody else can correct or add to the following list >and brief summaries would be most appreciated. I will summarize anything >I get back from the net or the companies I'm talking to. If anybody >especially wants to hear what I find out, send me email and I will be >sure to get back to you. > >Anyway, here are the players that I'm aware of, in alphabetical order: Hi, here is an additional entry (just for the records): Informix-SE 4.10UC2 - Originally compiled on NS 2.1 (black hardware), but still runs on 3.0/3.1 (black hardware) not certified. The port also includes Informix-NET, Informix-ESQL/C, Informix-SQL, Informix-4GL family, and C-ISAM. - There is a FREE Informix adaptor available on an unsupported AS IS basis. This adaptor can be obtained directly from me, but ONLY via email! - There is currently no version of Informix-SE for NS/FIP and logically no Informix adaptor for the same platform. - Requests regarding Informix products should be directed to Informix Menlo Park (NOT to me!). Greetings (currently) from a customer site (SAP AG), Alexander BTW, just for the facts: Informix-SE is a really easy to install and to use RDBMS for small up to medium sized DBs!!! :-) -- Alexander Koerner @ Informix Software Germany Email: alexk@informix.com (NeXTmail welcome) Fax : +49 89 960 98 500 Phone: +49 89 960 980
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Michael_Pizolato@afs.com (Michael Pizolato) Subject: MiniExample document numbers Message-ID: <1993Aug3.164232.6203@afs.com> Sender: Michael_Pizolato@afs.com Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1993 16:42:32 GMT What are the document numbers for the MiniExamples used for? Do they denote versions? For example, is 6519_AnExample.compressed older than 6542_AnExample.compressed? Or can't these kinds of combinations occur? Anybody know? Thanx, Michael -- Michael Pizolato gnihtyreve noitseuq michael_pizolato@afs.com NeXTMail appreciated
From: h0l847a@tamsun.tamu.edu (Hoseong La) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: LaTeX figures: where can I find pictex.tex, etc.? Date: 3 Aug 1993 15:31:14 -0500 Organization: tamu Distribution: world Message-ID: <23mhui$9qs@tamsun.tamu.edu> Does anyone know where I can find pictex.tex, prepictex.tex, postpictex.tex to run LaTeX figures on my NeXT? I could not use Texfigs.app to replace them either. Many thanks in advance. hs
From: mckelvey@suite.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: ManPagesFromHeaders? Date: 3 Aug 1993 18:49:06 GMT Organization: Suite Software Message-ID: <23mbv2$o9k@bilbo.suite.com> Where can I FTP the app ManPagesFromHeaders? I can't find it on sonata, or via archie. -- A man should not strive to eliminate his complexes, but to get in accord with them; they are legitimately what directs his conduct in the world. - Sigmund Freud Jim McKelvey mckelvey@suite.com
From: bostrov@curie.CS.ORST.EDU (Vareck Bostrom) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Ray.app - where, how, why not? Message-ID: <23mjhjINN7u3@flop.ENGR.ORST.EDU> Date: 3 Aug 93 20:58:27 GMT Article-I.D.: flop.23mjhjINN7u3 Distribution: world Organization: Computer Science Department, Oregon State University I can't seem to locate any 1.0 disks around here anymore and I'd like to play with Ray.app. Is there anyone who can NeXTMail it to me or point me in a direction to find it? (Source would be even better). Why is NeXT no longer including this? It was interesting. - Vareck
From: sowa@amdew.llnl.gov (Erik C. Sowa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: looking for BreakApp Date: 03 Aug 1993 21:58:21 GMT Organization: LLNL Chemistry and Materials Science Message-ID: <SOWA.93Aug3145821@amdew.llnl.gov> In a fit of disk-cleaning frenzy, I deleted the game BreakApp. My six-year-old is really upset! Hoping to restore her high opinion of me :-), I searched the usual archives for a replacement copy and failed to find it. Can anyone help? She gets frustrated with BoinkOut. -- erik sowa (sowa@amdew.llnl.gov)
From: sowa@amdew.llnl.gov (Erik C. Sowa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: looking for BreakApp Date: 03 Aug 1993 23:50:08 GMT Organization: LLNL Chemistry and Materials Science Message-ID: <SOWA.93Aug3165008@amdew.llnl.gov> References: <SOWA.93Aug3145821@amdew.llnl.gov> In-reply-to: sowa@amdew.llnl.gov's message of 03 Aug 1993 21:58:21 GMT >>>>> I wrote: Erik> In a fit of disk-cleaning frenzy, I deleted the game BreakApp. Silly me. The source is in /NextDeveloper/Examples/AppKit. I had it all the time. At least my daughter will be happy tonight. Thanks to all who responded so quickly. -- erik sowa (sowa@amdew.llnl.gov)
From: karuzis@wccf.mit.edu (GLENN HOLM) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Adobe Illustrator on Black NeXTSTEP Date: 3 Aug 1993 21:50 EST Organization: MIT - Whitaker College Distribution: world Message-ID: <3AUG199321505761@wccf.mit.edu> References: <1993Jul29.175333.24228@altsys.com> <1993Jul31.001954.18419@pixar.com> News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41 In article <1993Jul31.001954.18419@pixar.com>, wave@pixar.com writes... >In article <1993Jul29.175333.24228@altsys.com> lorinr@altsys.com (Lorin >Rivers III) writes: >> >> Altsys is firm in our committment to NEXTSTEP and we continue to >> develop our Best-of-Breed award winning graphics software, Virtuoso. >Virtuoso is a stellar piece of software, especially for folks that live in >the high-end Mac side of things, like my fiancee. She's a graphic . . >Who needs Adobe Illustrator? Buy Virtuoso. You won't be sorry. We >haven't been. Great manual, too. >--> Michael B. Johnson -- wave@media.mit.edu, wave@pixar.com >--> MIT Media Lab -- Computer Graphics & Animation Group >--> P*I*X*A*R -- IceMan Group (for the summer) additionally, any MAC-based service bureau (and i suppose that's most of them) can deal with your Virtuoso-generated .AI files without necessarily ever having heard of Virtuoso (or NeXT). ------------------------------------------------------------------ |Glenn Holm Internet:karuzis@wccf.mit.edu| |M.I.T Dept. of Brain + Cog. Sci. This VAX doesn't do NeXTmail | |Cambridge, MA 02139 "Real Neuroscientists don't do gels!" | ------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: nico@imani.cam.org (Nicolas Dore) Subject: Tying to reach Monte Grubb of Versatile Development Message-ID: <1993Aug4.032013.1513@imani.cam.org> Sender: nico@imani.cam.org Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1993 03:20:13 GMT Hey folks! I've been trying to get in touch with Monte Grubb of Tesseract fame. Anybody (himself?) know where he can be reached? (grubb@show10.csc.wsu.edu bounced with an "Unknown user") Thanks for any help. Ciao Nicolas Dore -- Nicolas Dore nico@imani.cam.org - - - - - - - - - CAREFUL! POLITICAL COMMENT ZONE!! - - - - - - - - - > "If I can't dance, I don't want to be in your revolution!" < > Emma Goldman (to Vladimir Ilitch Oulianov [Lenin], 1917) <
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: nico@imani.cam.org (Nicolas Dore) Subject: Re: What is Open Sesame Message-ID: <1993Aug4.040802.1866@imani.cam.org> Sender: nico@imani.cam.org References: <1993Aug2.230328.2405@yvax.byu.edu> Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1993 04:08:02 GMT In article <1993Aug2.230328.2405@yvax.byu.edu> writes: > In article <1993Aug2.151719.3822@imani.cam.org> writes: > > While we're on the subject, does anybody know the load "- NXHost"ing > > (which is what Sesame lets you do without the command line) > > puts on a network? (i.e. How much traffic does the WindowServer-app > > generate?) > > > Not much, really. My packet analyzer only hits about 3% utilization while I > type this (about 100 packets/second). I can get up to 250 or so by typing > fast or bringing up a window. But these are short bursts. It has a steady > stream of what seems to be pointer info, so a lot of them on one wire might > get bad. The packets are small, so it would be so bad. How's that for a > nebulous answer? Well, my level of confusion seems to say it's pretty damn good! 8^> Thanks. That's what I was asking. Ciao > -- > John Peterson -- Networked Computer Support -- Brigham Young University > Internet: John_Peterson@byu.edu Phone: (801) 378-5007 -- Nicolas Dore nico@imani.cam.org - - - - - - - - - CAREFUL! POLITICAL COMMENT ZONE!! - - - - - - - - - > "If I can't dance, I don't want to be in your revolution!" < > Emma Goldman (to Vladimir Ilitch Oulianov [Lenin], 1917) <
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dgursky@nextsrv1.andi.org (David Gursky) Subject: Re: Digital Librarian woes... Message-ID: <dgursky.744399291@news.andi.org> Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International References: <dgursky.743974549@news.andi.org> <1993Jul30.205824.4394@visus.com> Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1993 17:34:51 GMT In article <dgursky.743974549@news.andi.org> dgursky@nextsrv1.andi.org I wrote: >I've been struggling with a problem Digital Librarian has been giving >me for some time now. I am unable to search the contents of >/NextLibrary/Documentation (this includes the man pages, NeXT's >online documentation, etc.) with any completeness on one of our >NeXTs from my own user ID, but I can do it from root. On another of >our NeXTs, it works just fine. [One is a NextStation Turbo Color, >the other is a plain NextStation. Both are running 3.0] I've >replaced the man pages directory, the index files, even Librarian.app >on the errant machine to no avail. I've looked in the FAQ, Gopher, >and Next Answers for anything resembling this problem and not come >up with anything. Any net-readers have suggestions? And rhill@maxwarp.nomos.com (Robert Hill) followed up with: >I don't have an answer for you, but my entire domain here has the same >problem. If anyone can help, i'd sure appreciate it. My sysadmin here >thinks that it may be because we use yp instead of netinfo to manage our >hosts, but i'm not sure. The problem turned out to be the access control privileges on the various .index.store files. In order for Digital Librarian to correctly search a folder, the user must have *write* access to the corresponding .index.store Go figure. David M. Gursky MIME and NeXTMail accepted Synex, Inc. e-mail: dgursky@andi.org 5950 Symphony Woods Road voice: (301) 621-5732 Columbia, MD 21044 fax: (301) 621-6005
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,alt.fan.bill-gates,comp.os.linux From: meshkin@sol.cs.wmich.edu (Parental Advisory) Subject: Re: From your friends at UNIXWorld Message-ID: <1993Aug4.070852.2033@sol.cs.wmich.edu> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,alt.fan.bill-gates,comp.os.linux Organization: Western Michigan Univ. Comp. Sci. Dept. References: <1993Jul16.210211.21253@Princeton.EDU> <1993Jul23.144123.18893@pencom.com> <1993Jul30.004755.28026@unislc.slc.unisys.com> <1993Aug3.112036.8991@paperboy.ids.net> Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1993 07:08:52 GMT On Tue, 3 Aug 1993 11:20:36 GMT, Andy Green (green@ids.net) seemed to say: > Well what can anyone expect, it's still a beta release... did you expect a > gray wall to go along with your FREE unix operating system? (reference > to VMS doc set, that is) > Andy Awwwww... the good old ORANGE wall was more fun! The gray one can be mistaken for tiles, or brick mortar... but the orange ones were guarenteed to catch the eyes (and lunch) of anyone walking in! Hmmmm.... maybe the size of the documentation and the "ease-of-use" for an operating system are inversely proportional? <poke, poke, grin, sorry!> -Chris. -- ____ ____ ____ To seek out new structs, and polymorphism... // \\ // \\ ||// To boldy go where no to has gone before... \\__// \\__// || Chris Meshkin (meshkin@sol.cs.wmich.edu) > WMU <
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: stefan@initiera2 (Stefan Kruger) Subject: Problems w/ CirrusLogic Message-ID: <1993Aug4.075853.3833@sics.se> Sender: news@sics.se Organization: Swedish Institute of Computer Science, Kista Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1993 07:58:53 GMT Fellow netters, My graphics card seems to start up in the wrong resolution. My configuration: 50Mhz 486 AMI bios CirrusLogic GD542 1Mb VRAM MicroScan 4G ADI Screen The screen goes all flickery just as if the card uses a much higher resolution than the screen. Works fine running windows. The little display on the screen says that in the NeXT case the card does not properly inform the screen what resolution is being used. Any ideas ? Cheers /Stefan (stefan@initiera.upnet.se)
Organization: City University of New York Date: Wednesday, 4 Aug 1993 00:35:23 EDT From: <WBWQC@CUNYVM.BITNET> Message-ID: <93216.003523WBWQC@CUNYVM.BITNET> Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Installing X-Windows on NEXT Trying to install x-windows on Next, I try to run the Xnext.color and get: Couldn't open RGB_DB '/usr/lib/X11/rgb' PEXExtensionInit: Couldn't open default PEX font file Roman_M failed to set default font path 'usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc/, /usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/, /usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/, /usr/X11/fonts/75dpi/' Fatal server error: could not open default font 'fixed' [Process exited - exit code 1] I followed the installation"instructions" as well as I could, soft-linking the indicated directories, doing chmod..., even changing dir structures to accomodate it each time. I didn't find an 'RGB_DB' in the tarred binary, and I created an rgb dir with a copy of rpg.pag named RGB_DB just in case, but nothing. If a 'path' must be set, when, where and how is it done? After the mouse app runs? before it? before the xnext.color is run? Note that I've never installed any Unix application, nor installed nor run anything related to x-windows(sp on Next).I only know MSDOS and its apps well. If you can help, and would more specific info on what i've done so far, please send email. Thanks in advance. wbwqc@cunyvm.cuny.edu
From: kschulz@iva.k8.rt.bosch.de (Kay Schulz K8/IVA Tel. ++49-7121-35-1341) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: InstantTeX installation error Message-ID: <174@boschrt.rt.bosch.de.bosch.de> Date: 4 Aug 93 08:36:01 GMT References: <23m09c$6i7@news.mic.ucla.edu> Sender: news@rt.bosch.de.bosch.de Organization: Robert Bosch GmbH., Reutlingen, Germany. Hi I mailed to the developper of InstatTeX and he told me that they are working on it for NSI. Hopefully they are ready soon. I think we all need it, and we will love it. --- /* Kay Schulz kschulz@iva.k8.rt.bosch.de */ /* Man and nations will act rationally when all other */ /* possibilities have been exhausted. */
From: kevin@american.edu (Kevin Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: HELP --Installing MPEG Player 2.3 on NeXT Date: 4 Aug 1993 13:42:18 GMT Organization: The American University Computing Center Message-ID: <23oebqINN5p6@au-ns.american.edu> I am trying to build an MPEG Player (v.2.3) on a NeXT Cube but I keep getting these two errors: /NextDeveloper/Headers/bsd/sys/time.h:48: redefinition of `struct timeval' /NextDeveloper/Headers/bsd/sys/time.h:53: redefinition of `struct timezone' I do not know what this means. I've tried building it through the Project Builder as well as doing it by hand but I get the same messages. Anyone know what's going on? Could someone help? Thanks for the help. --Kevin --------------------------------------------------------------------- Kevin Cruz E-mail: kevin@american.edu Computer Science Dept. Phone: (202) 885-2767 The American University Washington, D.C.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Sybase + NS3.0 Message-ID: <23nga9$3v7@zippy.Telcom.Arizona.EDU> From: d_mc@mccube.tucson.az.us (Don McCollam) Date: 4 Aug 1993 05:09:29 GMT References: <Aug3.142744.70349@acs.ucalgary.ca> Distribution: world Organization: University of Arizona In article <Aug3.142744.70349@acs.ucalgary.ca> writes: > > Hello, > > > > My friend is about to upgrade to 3.0, but is worried about > > problems he may encounter running Sybase. I know there were > > some problems with the Administrator application; what were > > these? > > All administrator functions start two shells, both attempting the > same thing at the same time. > > > are there workarounds? > > Yup. Close on of the shells really quickly. :-) > > Sybase (or NeXT?) did release an updated version compatible with > 3.0, it may be difficult to find, though. > > > any other caveats? > > I've been using it without problems, but my use is quite light. > > -- > Blake W. Stone | DKW Systems Corporation > Chief Technical Officer | A N[EXTSTEP,eXT[STEP,step,Step]] VAR > bstone@acs.ucalgary.ca | > | ... couldn't have been ME On this subject: has anyone gotten a correct Sybase 4.6 DbLib sybdb.h header? I think what's delivered is still the 4.0.1 version. (Not that that's causing headaches .... no siree!) Don McCollam citdem@happy.rc.arizona.edu (REPLY HERE!) d_mc@mccube.tucson.az.us (NOT HERE! althought I'm posting from here)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,alt.fan.bill-gates,comp.os.linux From: bsa@kf8nh.wariat.org (Brandon S. Allbery) Subject: Re: From your friends at UNIXWorld References: <1993Jul16.210211.21253@Princeton.EDU> <23794r$7r7@nwfocus.wa.com> <wade.743961072@drexler> <1993Jul30.151758.10206@unislc.slc.unisys.com> Organization: Brandon's Linux box and AmPR node, Mentor, OH Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1993 16:07:21 GMT Message-ID: <1993Aug4.160721.3072@kf8nh.wariat.org> Distribution: world,happynet In article <1993Jul30.151758.10206@unislc.slc.unisys.com> thayne@unislc.slc.unisys.com (Thayne Forbes) writes: >Now that is one of the more silly arguments I have seen. I just want >good software. Some times I pay for it. Some times I get it free. >Some times I write it. BUT. It should always be good and easy to >install and use. I said that that is one of the things that I like >about Microsoft products. I said that it was a disappointment in >Linux. Are you saying that I should pay for Linux before I can >bitch, or are you saying that we should all make it worse to install? More accurately, it's *incomplete* free software. You want slick installation and easy maintenance, come back when all its components are out of alpha or beta test. ++Brandon -- Brandon S. Allbery kf8nh@kf8nh.ampr.org bsa@kf8nh.wariat.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software From: mlbm@lanl.gov (Mark Martinez) Subject: how to use dwrite Message-ID: <1993Aug4.191307.25722@newshost.lanl.gov> Sender: news@newshost.lanl.gov Organization: Los Alamos National Lab Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1993 19:13:07 GMT Are there any docs besides the man pages describing any of the following: how to use dwrite how to find out what defaults are available in an app defaults for commonly used NeXTapps and what they can do and if none of the above is available, could someone just tell me if it is possible to assign an app to an unregistered file extension: I want click on .au files and play them with Sound.app without renaming them to snd thanks mark
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: claire@cubx.com (Claire Normand) Subject: Cub'X-Window demo for NS/FIP Message-ID: <1993Aug4.175755.15798@cubx.com> Sender: news@cubx.com Organization: Cub'x Systemes - Rueil Malmaison, France. Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1993 17:57:55 GMT The corrupted demo package of Cub'X-Window v4.0 for NS/FIP has been replaced. A new demo version is now available on cs.orst.edu in directory /pub/next/submissions (or /pub/next/xnext). This new demo version has been tested and works perfectly well. For any information please contact : Cub'x Systemes Immeuble Sedgwick 7, Rue E. & A. Peugeot 92563 Rueil Malmaison Cedex - France Tel : (+33) (1) 47 08 74 40 Fax : (+33) (1) 47 08 74 41 info@cubx.com (NeXT mail welcome) Thanks, Claire Normand Cub'x Systemes Immeuble Sedgwick 7, Rue E. & A. Peugeot 92563 Rueil Malmaison Cedex - France Tel : (+33) (1) 47 08 74 40 Fax : (+33) (1) 47 08 74 41 e-mail : claire@cubx.com (NeXT mail)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: hess@cs.UAlberta.CA (Hess Andy Thomas) Subject: ~~~3DKIT~~~ please HELP!!!!!!! Message-ID: <1993Aug4.204649.1691@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> Summary: photoReal rendering problems on solo NeXT Keywords: 3D help Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca Organization: University of Alberta Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1993 20:46:49 GMT I am experimenting with the 3Dkit classes and my problem is that when I attempt to do photoReal rendering the panel pops up and asks to render on "localhost" (I guess this is the default?). However since my machine is not named "localhost" it does not render anything. Reading through the bugs report in ShaderInspector.app the author admits that he does not know of any other way to solve this problem on a non-networked(solo) NeXT except to rename your machine "localhost". This does work for me but there must be a better way than to change the name each time I want to run a photoReal rendering program. This problem does not occur for networked machines. Anyone out there who has any information that may be helpful to me; your input would be greatly appreciated. my machine: 040colorStation running 3.0 please mail me at: hess@cs.ualberta.ca Thanx in advance...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,de.comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.misc From: borris@boba.rhein-main.de (Borris Balzer) Subject: Urgent! Virtuoso-help needed! Message-ID: <1993Aug4.201553.1266@boba.rhein-main.de> Sender: borris@boba.rhein-main.de Organization: Borris Balzer - DeskTopPublishing Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1993 20:15:53 GMT Hi, NeXT-World! Virtuoso is a famous (but slow) software, but there's one LITTLE problem: A Virtuoso-created document, including german umlauts is printable without any problems at the NeXT-laserprinter. But I have to exposure my documets at an external Lino 300. All Linotype-service bureaus around Frankfurt are using funny little MacIntosh's to download printing-jobs to their Lino. So I tried to print my Virtuoso-documents in a file (print - save) to get a "virtuoso.ps". This file I sent to my exposurer and he tried to download it to his Lino-machine. He was able to exposure the document - but without the german umlauts. Instead of them I've got ASCII-codes on my film! The only workaround I know is to change every text to curves in any Virtuoso-document before sending it to an exposure-bureau. That couldn't be the right way! There must be another chance to create "real" PostScript without doing this mess. As I know the same problem apears by transferring Virtuoso-created imgages to FrameMaker documents using "cut-copy-and-paste". Trying this, I get the same result - no umlauts, but ASCII-codes. Is there anybody out there who could give me a hint? Please answer by e-mail - at the moment I'm not able to read News every day - I have to change lots of text to curves! Thanks in advance (and excuse my bad English - it isn't my native language) - Borris - -- borris@boba.rhein-main.de ist: Borris Balzer - Kennedyallee 34 D-60596 Frankfurt am Main - Tel +49-69-639266 - Fax +49-69-6312324
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jmh@iro.umontreal.ca (Jean-Marc Heneman) Subject: Re: QuickBase information summary Message-ID: <1993Aug4.224321.5399@vlsi.polymtl.ca> Sender: news@vlsi.polymtl.ca (USENET News System) Organization: Ecole Polytechnique de Montreal References: <23iqurINN88@theborg.stack.urc.tue.nl> Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1993 22:43:21 GMT Annard Brouwer (annard@theborg.stack.urc.tue.nl) wrote: : sdc@gun.com to get in contact with someone from SofDesign : sdc_demo@gun.com to get a demo-version of QuickBase (at the moment for : black hardware only) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ correction : I ran the demo of quickbase 2 weeks ago on a 486 NS/FIP! -- jmh jean-marc heneman = jmh@info.polymtl.ca if mail bounces, try jm_hene@pavo.concordia.ca or jmh@aircanada.ca I prefer ASCII mail for now, but you can send me NextMail for attachment __ / /_/ __/ / /
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: brian@wucs1.wustl.edu (Brian) Subject: NeXT Appletalk Message-ID: <1993Aug5.002131.18230@wuecl.wustl.edu> Sender: usenet@wuecl.wustl.edu (News Administrator) Organization: Washington University, School of Engineering, St. Louis MO Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1993 00:21:31 GMT With the advent of the Newtons arriving in St Louis, I was wondering if the Appletalk drivers on the NeXT (under 3.0) will be able to communicate with the Newton. Has anyone used the appletalk? How hard is it to get it working? brian
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: pwm@csis.dit.csiro.au (Peter Milne) Subject: FrameMaker 2.0d doesn't work under NeXTSTEP 3.1 Message-ID: <1993Aug5.005101.24500@csis.dit.csiro.au> Organization: CSIRO Division of Information Technology Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1993 00:51:01 GMT I run FrameMaker 2.0d on a NeXTStation. It worked fine under NeXTSTEP 3.0. I have just upgraded to NeXTSTEP 3.1 and now FrameMaker won't run. It reports the following on the console during launch: maker: Using /LocalApps/FrameMaker.app/.fminit2.0 maker: DisplayWidth 1120 DisplayHeight 832 maker: starting postscript download Aug 5 07:15:15 gringo WindowServer[145]: Can't open `/tmp/debug': context is write-prohibited. maker: finished postscript download maker: Starting FrameMaker 2.0b. Copyright (c) 1986-1989 Frame Technology Corp. maker: internal error 8. I am aware that other people have had similar problems after doing the NeXTSTEP 3.0 to 3.1 upgrade. I've checked the permissions on /tmp, the application should be able to write to it. FrameMaker fails in the same way way even if I run it as root. Creating /tmp/debug doesn't help. QUESTION: Does anyone know of a workaround? I know that FrameMaker 3.0 works okay under NeXTSTEP 3.1 but I don't really wish to upgrade unless I have to ... Cheers, Peter (milne@csis.dit.csiro.au)
From: jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Joseph W Reiss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: 3DReality Demo - Can't render Date: 5 Aug 1993 03:50:34 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <23q02a$8bs@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Get ready for a potentially stupid question, folks. I recently downloaded the newest version of 3DReality (Demo disabled) from orst. I run it, and everything works great. Obviously, I can't save. That's part of being a demo. But I don't remember the demo docs saying I couldn't render an image... When I use the InstaRender (QuickieRender, whatever it's called), things work alright. But when I select Render... from the Document menu, the program just quits on me. All the windows disappear and the program dies. Is this part of the demo disabling, or am I doing something wrong? See, I told you it was a stupid question :-) Joe -- __________ | NeXTMail accepted, but not preferred | |___) | """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" \_/OE | \EISS | Real programmers don't comment their code. If it was `---- | hard to write, it should be hard to read.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: CVS broken under 3.1 Message-ID: <CB9s4p.FAB@news.otago.ac.nz> From: alastair@farli.otago.ac.nz (Alastair Thomson) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1993 04:50:48 GMT Sender: usenet@news.otago.ac.nz (News stuff) Organization: University of Otago Keywords: CVS Hi, I have just upgraded the my NSTC to NS3.1 PR1, we still! haven't got the final release. Anyway, we can no longer use CVS. When we attempt to do a cvs update, it starts out fine, checking and merging as only cvs can. At some point it gets screwed up and starts printing all the merged files to stdout. This worked fine under 3.0, but not now. I recompiled CVS, RCS and diff to see if that was the problem, no change. Can someone who is using the final 3.1 m68k release tell me if this is just one of the problems with the beta, or does it still exist. Alastair -- Alastair Thomson, | Phone +64-3-479-8347 Programmer, | Fax +64-3-479-8529 Department of Computer Science | alastair@farli.otago.ac.nz University of Otago, Dunedin | New Zealand | NeXTmail Welcome
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.text.tex From: grw@oahu.cs.ucla.edu (George Wu) Subject: PostScript font display problem in TeXView on NeXT Message-ID: <1993Aug5.052543.20411@cs.ucla.edu> Sender: usenet@cs.ucla.edu (Mr Usenet) Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department Date: Thu, 5 Aug 93 05:25:43 GMT I have recently installed the NFSS and PSNFSS packages on my NeXTSTATION running NeXTSTEP 3.0 to allow the use of PostScript fonts in LaTeX documents. So far it's worked like a charm as far as printing is concerned but there is one problem with screen previewing using TeXView. At low resolutions, specifically 91dpi, the PostScript fonts are not displayed properly (i.e. the displayed font is not what it is supposed to be or the characters overlap each other). TeXView does not generate any warning messages at all. Am I doing something wrong or is TeXView screwing up ? Any help is appreciated. George
From: balfanz@zorro.informatik.hu-berlin.de (Dirk Balfanz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Current 3.0->3.1 Upgrade Price? Date: 5 Aug 1993 07:03:54 GMT Organization: Humboldt University Berlin, Department of Computer Science Distribution: world Message-ID: <23qbcq$e06@hahn.informatik.hu-berlin.de> Maybe this has already become a FAQ but I couldn't find it. What do I have to pay if I want to upgrade from 3.0 Extended Release (is this the right name? It has got all the developer stuff in it.) to 3.1 user + developer (black, of course). If memory serves right I think this changed recently. But silly me deleted the mails announcing the new price. But then, maybe I'm wrong. Thanks in advance. Dirk. P.S.: This is all educational. Is there an educational upgrade price?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bruce@TotSysSoft.com (Bruce Gingery) Subject: Re: Copying from Mail.app (Was: Copying between windows, any software?) Message-ID: <1993Aug3.170725.7431@ToTSySSoft.com> Sender: news@ToTSySSoft.com Organization: Total System Software References: <1993Aug2.174654.7156@newshost.lanl.gov> Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1993 17:07:25 GMT In article <1993Aug2.174654.7156@newshost.lanl.gov> silbar@cantina.lanl.gov (Dick Silbar) writes: -> > [deleted, on copy and paste from Edit.app] -> -> One thing that has annoyed me above selecting something -> from a mail message for copying into an Edit window is -> that, doing so, always turns that Edit file into -> RTF. Which I thrn have to "make ASCII" to get back -> to where I wanted. But, maybe there is something I'm -> missing--is there a way to avoid this? -> -> Dick Silbar Dick, Check your preferences in Edit.app for what kind of window you open with the File > New option. It's shipped set for Rich-Text if I'm not mistaken. Bruce
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.programmer From: bruce@TotSysSoft.com (Bruce Gingery) Subject: Pine (MIME) Mail for NS3.1/m68k+fip Message-ID: <1993Aug3.172139.7504@ToTSySSoft.com> Keywords: pine, mime, mail, fip, fat, mab Sender: news@ToTSySSoft.com Organization: Total System Software Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1993 17:21:39 GMT It seems that the trick to compiling is merely manually expanding ``va_arg'' and ``__va_rounded_size'' which for some reason do not import correctly from <ansi/[m68k,i386]/stdarg.h> and adding the appropriate -arch switches to the makefile. The needed expansions are in pine/args.c I have not yet had the opportunity to get it tested with FIP, but preliminary testing with a lipo'd m68k seems to only have the problem that ^X needs to be re-defined to the shell before invoking pine to prevent the untrapped interrupt from preventing posting (^X is the send command while posting in pico mode). That may be no problem if Edit.app may be specified as the editor. Bruce Gingery bruce@TotSysSoft.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: stefan@initiera.upnet.se (Stefan Kruger) Subject: Adding a .sig to mail Message-ID: <1993Aug5.091956.12654@sics.se> Sender: news@sics.se Organization: Swedish Institute of Computer Science, Kista Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1993 09:19:56 GMT Hi, is there a way to add a .signature file to NeXTmail messages ? Thanx -- _____________________________________________________________________ _ (_ |_ _ |_ _ _ |/ _ " _ _ _ Stefan Kruger _)| (/ | (_| |) |\ | (_| (_| (/ | Initiera Systemdesign AB | _) Email: stefan@initiera.upnet.se
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: alberto@parsec.mixcom.com (Alberto Ricart) Subject: Re: Rocks1.8fat.tar requires gunzip? Message-ID: <1993Aug5.034236.3847@parsec.mixcom.com> Organization: SmartSoft, Inc. References: <88640@ut-emx.uucp> <1993Aug1.005018.4395@splunge.uucp> Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1993 03:42:36 GMT A new version of Rocks 1.81 which will install on 3.0 or better systems has been put on the archives. Sorry for the inconvenience. We had been under the WRONG impression that 3.1 software was for 3.1 and above. The reality is that 3.1 fat software with the exception of dynamically loaded (fat) bundles and applications that make use of the indexing kit ARE compatible with 3.0 systems. Rocks does not fit into any of those categories, so it should install on 3.0 or better. The new version of Rocks includes funzip (a freely distributable zip/gzip extraction filter by Mark Adler) which allows us to gzip as much as we want without having to worry if the user has gzip or not. If you have downloaded the 1.8 and need the new scripts and funzip, to extract the package, please let us know. We will gladly email them to you. (So why all of this, because by gziping the package and compressing the sounds we reduce the package size from 3.02MB to just 1.25MB, IS worth it: more room in the archives, less bandwidth and best of all we can fit it into a single (well, IBM formatted - I'll have to play with tunefs...) disk. --- Alberto Ricart SmartSoft, Inc. 2220 E. Linnwood Avenue, Milwaukee, WI 53211 alberto@parsec.mixcom.com <NeXTMail Welcome> -- --- Alberto Ricart SmartSoft, Inc. 2220 E. Linnwood Avenue, Milwaukee, WI 53211-3321
From: falk@unixg.ubc.ca (David Falk) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,alt.fan.bill-gates,comp.os.linux Subject: Re: From your friends at UNIXWorld Date: 5 Aug 93 09:05:39 GMT Organization: The University of British Columbia Distribution: world,happynet Message-ID: <falk.744541539@unixg.ubc.ca> References: <1993Jul16.210211.21253@Princeton.EDU> <23794r$7r7@nwfocus.wa.com> <wade.743961072@drexler> <1993Jul30.151758.10206@unislc.slc.unisys.com> <1993Aug4.160721.3072@kf8nh.wariat.org> Linux, hard to install? I don't think so. Quite frankly, Microsoft Windows was a real pain to install compared to Linux. I found Linux to be quite easy to operate. I'm not a computer scientist, a scientist, or even a computer salesman. I'm a writer who graduated from university with a B.A.. In a sense I'm the least likely person to gravitate to Linux, yet I have. I think what the people at UNIXWorld are trying to tell us is that you have to read a couple of computer printouts before you can install Linux. Gee, they must think we are all a bunch of cabbage heads. I think Microsoft, on the other hand, has driven users from the DOS world to Linux. When the Evil Empire tried to convince us that we must have Windows and DOS was really no good on its own, people discovered that hey Windows was really redundant without DOS. Many of the people who've left Windows and DOS (made obsolete by the onrush of Windows applications) are the same people who chose IBM over Mac's in the early eighties. Like myself, they wanted a sensible GUI or a really powerful line interpreter. And here I am trying to make a perminant switch to the Linux World. BTW, I can't wait until v1.00. I hope it will still be free by that point. Dave. -- David Falk |"People always make the mistake of dismissing as untrue (falk@unixg.ubc.ca) | anything that happens only very seldom, or anything that | their minds cannot readily grasp..." -- Lucius Apuleius ===============================================================================
From: madon@disuns2.epfl.ch (Dominik Madon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: FrameMaker for NS/FIP Date: 5 Aug 1993 11:39:40 GMT Organization: Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne Message-ID: <23qrhs$2m6@disuns2.epfl.ch> Hi, Is there someone on the net how knew if FrameMaker will be ported on NS/FIP (or not) ? Thanks for answers Dominik
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: juha@seftinfo.cern.ch (Juha Lappalainen) Subject: From tiff to gif? Message-ID: <1993Aug5.124521.12659@dxcern.cern.ch> Sender: news@dxcern.cern.ch (USENET News System) Organization: CERN European Lab for Particle Physics Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1993 12:45:21 GMT Hi! Where could I find a program for NeXT that does tiff => gif conversions? JUha.
From: gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: PasteUp Templates, anyone? Date: 5 Aug 1993 13:39:36 GMT Organization: University of Maryland, College Park Message-ID: <23r2io$cdh@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> I've just bought PasteUp. In the hands of a graphic designer, I'm sure it's fine. However, I tend to produce messes. Has anyone templates I can try? The manual is far too sparse for me, and the sample templates are not very useful / instructive. It would also be nice to have some tips on using the app. There are oddities and a plethora of tools - quite confusing. Thanks Robert de Lucca JHU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: tmaas@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Tony Maas) Subject: Dataphile academic pricing Sender: news@rchland.ibm.com Message-ID: <1993Aug05.145725.24197@rchland.ibm.com> Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1993 14:57:25 GMT Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM Organization: IBM Rochester That's what I need information on... can anybody help? I want a phone number, place to order it, or an email address. Thanks. Tony Maas tmaas@rchland.vnet.ibm.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,de.comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.misc From: lorinr@altsys.com (Lorin Rivers III) Subject: Re: Urgent! Virtuoso-help needed! Message-ID: <1993Aug5.162003.7529@altsys.com> Organization: Altsys Corporation, Richardson, TX References: <1993Aug4.201553.1266@boba.rhein-main.de> Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1993 16:20:03 GMT In article <1993Aug4.201553.1266@boba.rhein-main.de> borris@boba.rhein-main.de (Borris Balzer) writes: > >Hi, NeXT-World! > >Virtuoso is a famous (but slow) software, but there's one LITTLE problem: > >A Virtuoso-created document, including german umlauts is printable without >any problems at the NeXT-laserprinter. But I have to exposure my documets >at an external Lino 300. All Linotype-service bureaus around Frankfurt are >using funny little MacIntosh's to download printing-jobs to their Lino. >So I tried to print my Virtuoso-documents in a file (print - save) to get >a "virtuoso.ps". This file I sent to my exposurer and he tried to download >it to his Lino-machine. He was able to exposure the document - but without >the german umlauts. Instead of them I've got ASCII-codes on my film! > >The only workaround I know is to change every text to curves in any >Virtuoso-document before sending it to an exposure-bureau. That couldn't >be the right way! There must be another chance to create "real" PostScript >without doing this mess. >As I know the same problem apears by transferring Virtuoso-created imgages >to FrameMaker documents using "cut-copy-and-paste". Trying this, I get the >same result - no umlauts, but ASCII-codes. > >Is there anybody out there who could give me a hint? Please answer by >e-mail - at the moment I'm not able to read News every day - I have to >change lots of text to curves! > >Thanks in advance (and excuse my bad English - it isn't my native >language) > >- Borris - >-- > >borris@boba.rhein-main.de ist: Borris Balzer - Kennedyallee 34 >D-60596 Frankfurt am Main - Tel +49-69-639266 - Fax +49-69-6312324 Borris, I have looked into your question. The Draw.app shipped with every NeXT exhibits the same behavior when cut-copied-and-pasted into a Frame document. Also, I have had no trouble downlowding Virtuoso PS files containing all kinds of non-ascii characters. I suspect you may need to add one step to your printing process. That is, make a virtual printer using PrintManager.app that is the same printer your service bureau uses. Then in the Print Option panel in the Print Panel of Virtuoso tell Viruoso to use PPD information. Then Save PostScript for chosen printer, include fonts. That should work for you. -- Lorin Rivers Lorin_Rivers@altsys.com NEXTSTEP Sales Manager 214.680.2518 269 W. Renner Parkway NeXT Mail Expected Richardson, Texas 75080 I said it, not my boss
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: kluge@avalon.physik.unizh.ch (Daniel G. Kluge) Subject: NeXTTeX_update: doesn't work ! Message-ID: <1993Aug5.162053.21001@ifi.unizh.ch> Sender: news@ifi.unizh.ch (USENET News Admin) Organization: University of Zurich, Department of Computer Science Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1993 16:20:53 GMT I just downloaded NeXTTeX_Update.tar.Z and installed the new inputs and binaries, as described in the README-File, but when I tried to recompile the .fmt files I got an error > vis-next# initex plain ! tex.pool doesn't match; tangle me again. When I asked a TeX-Wizard, I first had to hear some flames on NeXT, and he told me, that a new virtex is absolutely of no use without a new tex.pool. Anybody got a clue ?? I don't like the idea, to shovel the wohle TeX-package from my Station at home via diskettes to the ETH... - daniel -- Daniel G. Kluge @ Swiss Federal Institute of Technology Zuerich E-Mail : kluge@avalon.physik.unizh.ch (NeXT-Mail welcome) study-related stuff : dankluge@iiic.ethz.ch DECnet : EZINFO::CLUESCH
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,de.comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.misc From: ctm@ardi.com Subject: Re: Urgent! Virtuoso-help needed! Message-ID: <CBApG3.CEy@cobra.cs.unm.edu> Sender: news@cobra.cs.unm.edu Organization: ARDI References: <1993Aug4.201553.1266@boba.rhein-main.de> <1993Aug5.162003.7529@altsys.com> Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1993 16:50:29 GMT In article <1993Aug5.162003.7529@altsys.com> lorinr@altsys.com (Lorin Rivers III) writes: >In article <1993Aug4.201553.1266@boba.rhein-main.de> borris@boba.rhein-main.de (Borris Balzer) writes: >> >>Hi, NeXT-World! >> >>... [problem description elided] >> >Borris, > >>... [problem solution elided] > >-- >Lorin Rivers Lorin_Rivers@altsys.com >NEXTSTEP Sales Manager 214.680.2518 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Now that's the kind of sales manager that I like to see. Of course this begs the question about their technial support. When you talk to technical support, are they even more responsive and knowlegeable or is it like infants switched at birth and technical support's response is to try to sell you something you don't need? Pardon the slam on salespeople. Obviously I recognize that the above is a stereotype. I wanted to thank Lorin and the humorous question just popped into my head. --Cliff ctm@ardi.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.text.tex,comp.sys.next.software From: tlm@tantalus.scl.ameslab.gov (Tom Marchioro) Subject: Re: PostScript font display problem in TeXView on NeXT Message-ID: <CBAw2K.FC5@news.iastate.edu> Sender: news@news.iastate.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA References: <1993Aug5.052543.20411@cs.ucla.edu> Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1993 19:13:31 GMT George Wu writes [] [] I have recently installed the NFSS and PSNFSS packages on my []NeXTSTATION running NeXTSTEP 3.0 to allow the use of PostScript fonts []in LaTeX documents. So far it's worked like a charm as far as []printing is concerned but there is one problem with screen previewing []using TeXView. At low resolutions, specifically 91dpi, the PostScript []fonts are not displayed properly (i.e. the displayed font is not what []it is supposed to be or the characters overlap each other). TeXView []does not generate any warning messages at all. Am I doing something []wrong or is TeXView screwing up ? Any help is appreciated. My guess is you are encountering a bug in the NeXT font cache which Tom Rokicki and I spent (LITERALLY!!) weeks tracking down. It seems that the font Ohlfs has a completely screwy UniqueID, something that someone must have just made up one day, and if you start using too many PS fonts in a variety of applications you will eventually mess up the font cache. I first found this bug because I've switched to 100% Postscript TeX fonts, meaning the corruption was far more likely to occur. It turns out that how the bug manifests itself is extremely context dependent (i.e. it depends on what apps you have running, what fonts they cache and in what order, etc.) and that is why it took us so long to track it down. Since you are using lots of PS fonts in your TeXing then this corrupted font cache is probably at fault. I have a file for generating the bug in a specific way, and also a fix which seems to work just fine, but both are on a machine which will not be up until Monday (we're moving all of our computers to a new room). Will post the relevant information then. In the meantime, if the bug really bothers you I suggest you stop using Ohlfs for any application and reboot your machine. That should solve the problem. By the way, the fact that it is only your screen fonts that are messed up is purely a matter of luck based on your font caching arrangement. I had the same situation for a long time and tolerated it, but one day it was the *printed* versions that were messed up and that was when Rokicki and I decided enough was enough and tracked the sucker down. Hope this is helpful, more information to follow once our machines are back on line --- tom -- Dr. Thomas L. Marchioro II Two-wheeled theoretical physicist Center for Physical and Computational Mathematics 515-294-6629 Ames Laboratory 515-233-1216 (home) Ames, Iowa 50011 tlm@iastate.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jduteau@crow.ewd.dreo.dnd.ca (Jean-Henri Duteau) Subject: Other Language Dictionaries for WriteNow Message-ID: <1993Aug5.182733.26802@valet.dreo.dnd.ca> Sender: news@valet.dreo.dnd.ca Organization: DREO-EWD Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1993 18:27:33 GMT I am currently using my NeXTStation at home and my wife is interested in using the system for some thesis work, etc. However, the problem I have is that she is writing in French and I don't have a dictionary to support her. I wonder if there is such a thing as Other Language Dictionaries for WriteNow as there are for WordPerfect. If any one knows, please e-mail about them. Thanx, Make mine black (until they're all gone)... JDuteau@crow.ewd.dreo.dnd.ca
From: lones@lones.mit.edu (Lones A. Smith) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: f2c --- WHERE may I find it??? Date: 5 Aug 1993 20:21:23 GMT Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology Message-ID: <23rq43$ebt@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> and what is the path name too??? Thanks, Lones A. Smith Department of Economics MIT E52-252C Cambridge MA 02139 v-mail: (617) 253-0914
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software From: wbeeck@dart.de (Wilfried Beeck) Subject: Re: Can one use a HP Deskjet 500C with NS 3.1? Message-ID: <1993Aug5.211531.424@dart.de> Sender: wbeeck@dart.de Organization: d'ART Computersysteme GmbH References: <23qnmv$ab@email.tuwien.ac.at> Date: Thu, 5 Aug 93 21:15:31 GMT In article <23qnmv$ab@email.tuwien.ac.at> gadinger@galadriel.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Gadinger) writes: > O.K., it IS a silly question - is there a way to hook a HP DJ 500C to NS > 3.1 on a 486? Do HP sell a driver or something to make these lowmarket > things (software side) PostScriptable? Please tell if you know! > > Alex Wilkie, currently no email@addr! (sorry) We're selling a printer-driver, called "Dots", which allows you to output to many non-PostScript printing devices, including the HP Deskjet 500C. Dots uses NEXTSTEP Display PostScript to generate high quality PostScript output. Printers that are connected with Dots are available throughout the network, just like the NeXT Laserprinter. Currently there are four different categories: Dots monochrome supports Epson 24 dot matrix printers (and compatible) NEC 24 dot matrix printers (and compatible) IBM Proprinter XL24 AGM (and compatible) HP PCL II, III, V Canon BJ-300/330 (and compatible) Canon BJ-10/10e/10ex (and compatible) HP LaserJet II, III, IV (and compatible) HP DeskJet 500, 510 Dots color supports HP Deskjet 500C HP Deskjet 550C HP Deskjet 1200C HP Paintjet XL300 Dots CLC10 supports scanning and printing on the CJ 10 Canon Color Copier. Dots CLC500 supports scanning and printing on the CLC300 and CLC500 Canon Color Copiers. All versions require NEXTSTEP 3.0 or NEXTSTEP 3.1. Dots Version 3.3 or higher supports both Intel and Motorola CPUs. Here are the list prices for the Dots driver package (per printer): Europe International Dots monochrome 198 DM 149 Dollars Dots color 298 DM 199 Dollars Dots CLC10 1.398 DM 799 Dollars Dots CLC500 1.998 DM 1,199 Dollars IMPORTANT: If you are using NEXTSTEP on non-NeXT hardware, you must add the cost of a PostScript output license, which is (or will soon be) available from NeXT. Our current information is that the license fee for printers with a suggested US retail price below 1,000 dollars is 50 dollars. The HP Deskjet 500C and 550C are in that category. So the total cost for the printer driver (Dots + PostScript output license) would be 249 dollars. Dots is available from many NeXT resellers and distributors. Our Austrian distributor is Hard & Soft NeXTcenter, Vienna Our US distributor is Alembic Systems International, Englewood, Colorado d'ART Software GmbH Virchowstrasse 17-19 22767 Hamburg Germany (++49) 40-38023-0 (++49) 40-38023-290 fax
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: alastair@farli.otago.ac.nz (Alastair Thomson) Subject: Re: CVS broken under 3.1 Message-ID: <CBB3nB.Mpy@news.otago.ac.nz> Sender: usenet@news.otago.ac.nz (News stuff) Organization: University of Otago References: <CB9s4p.FAB@news.otago.ac.nz> Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1993 21:57:10 GMT Please find below the fix to the CVS problem. From: wjs@blorf.omnigroup.com (William Shipley) Subject: Re: What source/version control software is available? Date: 31 May 93 10:42:57 GMT Article-I.D.: news.1ucnfhINNfe3 References: <PFKEB.93May29210018@kaon.SLAC.Stanford.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: slip2-client.cpac.washington.edu Paul F. Kunz writes > Because the InterfaceBuilder generates nib directories, you really > have to use CVS. Even the simpliest of applications is a huge > mess of directories as far as RCS/SCCS is concerned. But CVS, > with the latest release of RCS handles it fine. Do get Art Isbell's > cvs.postamble from the archives to go along with CVS, however. Our company has encountered some problems with the latest version of CVS under NEXTSTEP 3.1beta. If there are too many files in a single directory, the "tmpnam(3s)" call fails after TMP_MAX times, which is defined to be: #define TMP_MAX 25 /* min unique file names */ /* from tmpnam */ The symptom is that when you update a directory with 25+ files, after the 25th the files simply start blatting out to the screen. The fix is to replace all calls to tmpnam(3s) with mktemp(3), which requires a little programming but not too much. Credit for this fix goes to Ken Case, a partner here at The Omni Group. We will be submitting this fix back to GNU, but figured it might be especially timely and relevant to readers of this group since NeXT's tmpnam craps out so early. -William Shipley The Omni Group --------- -- Alastair Thomson, | Phone +64-3-479-8347 Programmer, | Fax +64-3-479-8529 Department of Computer Science | alastair@farli.otago.ac.nz University of Otago, Dunedin | New Zealand | NeXTmail Welcome
From: carl@next2.sun1.mcsr.olemiss.edu (Carl Frederickson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: gzip Date: 5 Aug 1993 22:20:50 GMT Organization: Mississippi State University Message-ID: <23s142$5o4@Tut.MsState.Edu> Keywords: making gzip default compression I have a question obviuosly. How do I get gzip into the inspector tool so that I don't have to go into a terminal window to uncompress *.gz files? Thanks all Carl Frederickson
From: garity@MATH.ORST.EDU (Dennis Garity) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: InstantTeX installation error Keywords: InstantTeX Message-ID: <23s356$3te@gaia.ucs.orst.edu> Date: 5 Aug 93 22:55:34 GMT Article-I.D.: gaia.23s356$3te References: <1993Aug3.065652.12571@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw> Distribution: world Organization: University Computing Services - Oregon State University In article <1993Aug3.065652.12571@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw> u8021804@cc.nctu.edu.tw writes: > Hi, > I downloaded InstantTeX from cs.orst.edu. It is now free and is FAT. But > when > I installed it on a NS/FIP machine, I got some error at the end of the >installa-tion. The error message is: > Running installation program ... > /private/tmp/.InstantTeX.tmp/InstantTeX.post_install: > /InstantTeX/InstantTeX.pkg/TeXviewRemover.app/TeXviewRemover: cannot execute > **** There were errors while installing InstantTeX.pkg. > ... errors. > > Anyone knows what's wrong. And any install it sucessfully? > > TC Huang I encountered the same problem, but was able to successfully install it by doing the following: Edit the file "InstantTeX.post_install" (which is in the InstantTeX.pkg folder ) by removing the second line of the file. Then install the package. The problem seems to be that the installation process looks for a file "TeXViewRemover" which is missing. This package is definitely worth installing. ------------------ Dennis Garity Oregon State University
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mark@sirius.demon.co.uk (Mark Holt) Subject: Off line retrieval from a BBS Message-ID: <CBAMGt.Mov@demon.co.uk> Sender: news@demon.co.uk (Usenet Administration) Organization: Demon Internet Limited. Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1993 15:46:04 GMT I have a need to download a number of files using the ymodem protocol from a BBS in the states. Initially I tried to use Microphone Pro to access this BBS and all was sweetness and light until I tried to run the program from cron when I was not logged in. Microphone promply fell over (presumably because it could not open any windows). I was wondering whether anyone knows of a package available on Black Hardware, either PD or commercial, that will not complain about not being able to open a display. Thanks in advance... Mark Holt
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software From: fxars@camelot.acf-lab.alaska.edu (Al Sparks) Subject: Re: how to use dwrite In-Reply-To: mlbm@lanl.gov's message of Wed, 4 Aug 1993 19: 13:07 GMT Message-ID: <FXARS.93Aug5171246@ix.acf-lab.alaska.edu> Sender: news@raven.alaska.edu (USENET News System) Organization: University of Alaska Fairbanks References: <1993Aug4.191307.25722@newshost.lanl.gov> Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1993 02:12:46 GMT In article <1993Aug4.191307.25722@newshost.lanl.gov> mlbm@lanl.gov (Mark Martinez) writes: > and if none of the above is available, could someone just tell me if it is > possible to assign an app to an unregistered file extension: > > I want click on .au files and play them with Sound.app without renaming them to > snd > > thanks > > mark For an example, here's a partial listing of ~/.NeXT/suffixes3_0.wmd in my account. You should be able to get the idea. ==== Al tiff = (/LocalApps/ImageViewer.app/ImageViewer); pcx = (/LocalApps/GraphicsWorkshop.app/GraphicsWorkshop, unknown); .chess = (/NextDeveloper/Demos/Chess.app/Chess, ChessDoc); squfile = (/LocalApps/UnSquashOnly, squeeze); macpict = ("/LocalApps/Convert PICT.app/Convert PICT", macpict); composite = (/LocalApps/Icon.app/Icon, composite); wp = (/LocalApps/WordPerfect.app/WordPerfect, wpdoc); project = (/NextDeveloper/Apps/ProjectBuilder.app/ProjectBuilder, projfile); pbm = (/LocalApps/ImageViewer.app/ImageViewer, image); tar = (/LocalApps/Opener.app/Opener); ras = (/LocalApps/ImageViewer.app/ImageViewer, image); uu = (/LocalApps/Opener.app/Opener, uu); objlink = (/usr/lib/NextStep/Workspace.app/WM.app/WM, objlink); [rest deleted]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dkk@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (david.k.kallman) Subject: DateBook Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1993 17:18:05 GMT Message-ID: <CBAqq8.G6s@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> Folks, Could someone please NeXTmail me a copy of the DateBook application from NeXTStep 2.1? It disappeared on upgrade to 3.0 and now 3.1. I'll post a message as soon as I receive a copy. Thanks. Dave Kallman P.S.: Are there any good alternatives? -- ---- Dave Kallman, AT&T, 480 Red Hill Rd., Middletown, NJ 07748 d_k_kallman@att.com, (908)615-2989, fax: (908)615-2507
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: pwm@csis.dit.csiro.au (Peter Milne) Subject: Changed behavior of Mathematica 2.0.4 under NeXTSTEP 3.1 Message-ID: <1993Aug6.013143.15646@csis.dit.csiro.au> Organization: CSIRO Division of Information Technology Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1993 01:31:43 GMT Since I installed NeXTSTEP 3.1 on my NeXTstation my 2.0.4 version of Mathematica pops up a window titled Kernel Startup Messages the first time I ask it to evaluate an expression. The window contains the following: General::pwname: -- Message text not found -- (7)( /LocalApps/Mathematica.app/Kernel/NeXT/mathpass) (gringo) `gringo' is the hostname of my stand alone system. I am using a thin kernel. No such window used to appear under NeXTSTEP 3.0. Rebuilding the kernel (thin) didn't change things. Whilst Mathematica still seems to work okay under NS 3.1, I'd be happier if this message didn't come up.. QUESTIONS: 1. Is this a known `problem'? 2. Is it `serious'? 3. Is there a workaround? 4. Is it due to a change/bug NeXT have introduced with NS 3.1 or is it a Mathematica problem? 5. Is it likely to go away in NeXTSTEP 3.2? Thanks, Peter (milne@csis.dit.csiro.au)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: andrew@stone.com (Andrew Stone) Subject: Re: Dataphile academic pricing Message-ID: <1993Aug6.002233.28610@stone.com> Keywords: Stone Sender: andrew@stone.com Organization: Stone Design Corp References: <1993Aug05.145725.24197@rchland.ibm.com> Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1993 00:22:33 GMT In article <1993Aug05.145725.24197@rchland.ibm.com> tmaas@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Tony Maas) writes: > That's what I need information on... can anybody help? > > I want a phone number, place to order it, or an email > address. Thanks. > > Tony Maas > tmaas@rchland.vnet.ibm.com > email: info@stone.com human: (505) 345 4800 fax: (505) 345 3424 (FIL-FIBI) Or, if you want to order after hours or weekends, Try NeXT Connection. andrew -- ||<<->>||<<==>>||<<++>>||<<?>>||<<+>>||<<-->>||<<==>>||<<+>>|| !! Andrew Stone !! (505) 345-4800 !! !! andrew@stone.com <> Stone Design Corp !! ||<<->>||<<==>>||<<++>>||<<?>>||<<+>>||<<-->>||<<==>>||<<+>>||
From: glenn@rightbrain.com (Glenn Reid) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: TypeView fire sale Message-ID: <1303@rtbrain.rightbrain.com> Date: 6 Aug 93 03:16:58 GMT Sender: glenn@rightbrain.com Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc TypeView is a very cool application written by Vivid Publishing that we've been distributors for for a while. We recently discovered we have a huge inventory of them that are just sitting, and Vivid has asked us to offer a huge fire sale to try to reduce the inventory. Here's the scoop. TypeView is normally $129, but we're going to fire sale them for only $25. We've got a lot of them, but they may go pretty fast at this price. Here's a quick overview of TypeView's capabilities: Provides several "views" to look at characters sets of fonts Lets you compare fonts to each other visually Lets you copy/paste characters from symbolic fonts Lets you get at UNENCODED characters that are otherwise unaccessable Provides services for use with other applications This is a really great application. I use it every other day to find symbols in Zapf Dingbats that I can't remember how to type, to find fractions (they're in almost every font, but you can't type them!) and things like that. If nothing else, you can learn a lot about fonts from inspecting existing ones. Send us email at "info@rightbrain.com", fax us, or call 800-472-7246 to take advantage of this great sale on this great app. -- Glenn Reid NeXTmail: glenn@rightbrain.com RightBrain Software 415-326-2974 (NeXTfax 326-2977) Palo Alto, California Electronic Frontier Foundation #054 -- NewsGrazer, a NeXTstep(tm) news reader, posting -- M>UQR=&8P7&%N<VE[7&9O;G1T8FQ<9C!<9FUO9&5R;B!#;W5R:65R.WT*7&UA M<F=L,3(P"EQM87)G<C$R,`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`I<"DAE<F4G<R!T:&4@<V-O;W`N7`I< M"E1Y<&56:65W(&ES(&YO<FUA;&QY("0Q,CDL(&)U="!W92=R92!G;VEN9R!T M;R!F:7)E('-A;&4@=&AE;2!F;W(@;VYL>2`D,C4N7`I792=V92!G;W0@82!L M;W0@;V8@=&AE;2P@8G5T('1H97D@;6%Y(&=O('!R971T>2!F87-T(&%T('1H M:7,@<')I8V4N7`I<"DAE<F4G<R!A('%U:6-K(&]V97)V:65W(&]F(%1Y<&56 M:65W)W,@8V%P86)I;&ET:65S.EP*7`JW(%!R;W9I9&5S('-E=F5R86P@(G9I M97=S(B!T;R!L;V]K(&%T(&-H87)A8W1E<G,@<V5T<R!O9B!F;VYT<UP*MR!, M971S('EO=2!C;VUP87)E(&9O;G1S('1O(&5A8V@@;W1H97(@=FES=6%L;'E< M"K<@3&5T<R!Y;W4@8V]P>2]P87-T92!C:&%R86-T97)S(&9R;VT@<WEM8F]L M:6,@9F]N='-<"K<@3&5T<R!Y;W4@9V5T(&%T(%5.14Y#3T1%1"!C:&%R86-T M97)S('1H870@87)E(&]T:&5R=VES92!U;F%C8V5S<V%B;&5<"K<@4')O=FED M97,@<V5R=FEC97,@9F]R('5S92!W:71H(&]T:&5R(&%P<&QI8V%T:6]N<UP* M7`I4:&ES(&ES(&$@<F5A;&QY(&=R96%T(&%P<&QI8V%T:6]N+B`@22!U<V4@ M:70@979E<GD@;W1H97(@9&%Y('1O(&9I;F1<"G-Y;6)O;',@:6X@6F%P9B!$ M:6YG8F%T<R!T:&%T($D@8V%N)W0@<F5M96UB97(@:&]W('1O('1Y<&4L('1O M(&9I;F1<"F9R86-T:6]N<R`H=&AE>2=R92!I;B!A;&UO<W0@979E<GD@9F]N M="P@8G5T('EO=2!C86XG="!T>7!E('1H96TA*2!A;F1<"G1H:6YG<R!L:6ME M('1H870N("!)9B!N;W1H:6YG(&5L<V4L('EO=2!C86X@;&5A<FX@82!L;W0@ M86)O=70@9F]N=',@9G)O;5P*:6YS<&5C=&EN9R!E>&ES=&EN9R!O;F5S+EP* M7`I396YD('5S(&5M86EL(&%T(")I;F9O0')I9VAT8G)A:6XN8V]M(BP@9F%X M('5S+"!O<B!C86QL(#@P,"TT-S(M-S(T-B!T;UP*=&%K92!A9'9A;G1A9V4@ M;V8@=&AI<R!G<F5A="!S86QE(&]N('1H:7,@9W)E870@87!P+EP*7`HM+5P* M($=L96YN(%)E:60@("`@("`@(`D)3F585&UA:6PZ(&=L96YN0')I9VAT8G)A M:6XN8V]M7`H@4FEG:'1"<F%I;B!3;V9T=V%R90D)-#$U+3,R-BTR.3<T("A. M95A49F%X(#,R-BTR.3<W*5P*(%!A;&\@06QT;RP@0V%L:69O<FYI80D)16QE E8W1R;VYI8R!&<F]N=&EE<B!&;W5N9&%T:6]N(",P-31<"@I]"FYI `
From: glenn@rightbrain.com (Glenn Reid) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: ** RightBrain Sale continues into August Message-ID: <1304@rtbrain.rightbrain.com> Date: 6 Aug 93 03:19:21 GMT Sender: glenn@rightbrain.com Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc 75% off SALE! EDU RETAIL PasteUp: $199 $149 $795 We got a really great response to our 50% off sale last month, and it led us to an interesting observation. We had previously lowered the Educational price of PasteUp to $299, and during the 50% off sale it was only $149. Almost ALL of our sales last month were to educational people, evidently because we broke below a magic price barrier for a lot of people. That made us think that maybe a lot of people want to buy it, but haven't been able to convince themselves to spend the money for it. So this month we're extending the educational price of $149 for one more month for PasteUp, continuing to sell Adobe fonts at 50% off retail, and we're going to try reducing the price of regular old PasteUp from $795 to only $199 for the rest of this month to see whether it's simply price sensitivity or whether there really are a lot more educational people on the net than everybody else. This is a 75% discount! You can't possibly pass it up if you're even remotely interested in PasteUp. Our margins are very thin at this price, but we'd like to have a larger installed base, so we're willing to give it a shot. Send orders to "info@rightbrain.com" or double-click the following program to get more information about it from our file server: -- Glenn Reid NeXTmail: glenn@rightbrain.com RightBrain Software 415-326-2974 (NeXTfax 326-2977) Palo Alto, California Electronic Frontier Foundation #054 -- NewsGrazer, a NeXTstep(tm) news reader, posting -- M>UQR=&8P7&%N<VE[7&9O;G1T8FQ<9C!<9FUO9&5R;B!#;W5R:65R.UQF,5QF M<W=I<W,@2&5L=F5T:6-A.WT*7&UA<F=L,3(P"EQM87)G<C$R,`I[7&-O;&]R M=&)L7')E9#!<9W)E96XP7&)L=64P.WT*7'!A<F1<='@Q-S(P7'1X,S0T,%QT M>#4Q.#!<='@V.3`P7'1X.#8T,%QT>#$P,S8P7'1X,3(P.#!<='@Q,S@R,%QT M>#$U-30P7'1X,3<R.#!<9C!<8C!<:3!<=6PP7&9S,C1<9F,P(%P*"EQF,5QB M7&9S,S8@"0I<:2`W-24@;V9F"5-!3$4A"EQI,"`)"EQB,"!%1%4)4D5404E, M"EQB(%P*4&%S=&55<#H)"0I<:2`D,3DY"EQI,"`)"EQB,"`D,30Y"20W.34* M7&8P7&9S,C0@7`I<"E=E(&=O="!A(')E86QL>2!G<F5A="!R97-P;VYS92!T M;R!O=7(@-3`E(&]F9B!S86QE(&QA<W0@;6]N=&@L(&%N9"!I=%P*;&5D('5S M('1O(&%N(&EN=&5R97-T:6YG(&]B<V5R=F%T:6]N+B`@5V4@:&%D('!R979I M;W5S;'D@;&]W97)E9"!T:&5<"D5D=6-A=&EO;F%L('!R:6-E(&]F(%!A<W1E M57`@=&\@)#(Y.2P@86YD(&1U<FEN9R!T:&4@-3`E(&]F9B!S86QE(&ET('=A M<UP*;VYL>2`D,30Y+B`@06QM;W-T($%,3"!O9B!O=7(@<V%L97,@;&%S="!M M;VYT:"!W97)E('1O(&5D=6-A=&EO;F%L('!E;W!L92Q<"F5V:61E;G1L>2!B M96-A=7-E('=E(&)R;VME(&)E;&]W(&$@;6%G:6,@<')I8V4@8F%R<FEE<B!F M;W(@82!L;W0@;V8@<&5O<&QE+EP*5&AA="!M861E('5S('1H:6YK('1H870@ M;6%Y8F4@82!L;W0@;V8@<&5O<&QE('=A;G0@=&\@8G5Y(&ET+"!B=70@:&%V M96XG=%P*8F5E;B!A8FQE('1O(&-O;G9I;F-E('1H96US96QV97,@=&\@<W!E M;F0@=&AE(&UO;F5Y(&9O<B!I="Y<"EP*4V\@=&AI<R!M;VYT:"!W92=R92!E M>'1E;F1I;F<@=&AE(&5D=6-A=&EO;F%L('!R:6-E(&]F("0Q-#D@9F]R(&]N M92!M;W)E7`IM;VYT:"!F;W(@4&%S=&55<"P@8V]N=&EN=6EN9R!T;R!S96QL M($%D;V)E(&9O;G1S(&%T(#4P)2!O9F8@<F5T86EL+"!A;F1<"G=E)W)E(&=O M:6YG('1O('1R>2!R961U8VEN9R!T:&4@<')I8V4@;V8@<F5G=6QA<B!O;&0@ M4&%S=&55<"!F<F]M("0W.35<"G1O(&]N;'D@)#$Y.2!F;W(@=&AE(')E<W0@ M;V8@=&AI<R!M;VYT:"!T;R!S964@=VAE=&AE<B!I="=S('-I;7!L>2!P<FEC M95P*<V5N<VET:79I='D@;W(@=VAE=&AE<B!T:&5R92!R96%L;'D@87)E(&$@ M;&]T(&UO<F4@961U8V%T:6]N86P@<&5O<&QE(&]N7`IT:&4@;F5T('1H86X@ M979E<GEB;V1Y(&5L<V4N7`I<"E1H:7,@:7,@82`*7&8Q7&9S,S8@-S4E"EQF M,%QF<S(T("!D:7-C;W5N="$@(%EO=2!C86XG="!P;W-S:6)L>2!P87-S(&ET M('5P(&EF('EO=2=R92!E=F5N7`IR96UO=&5L>2!I;G1E<F5S=&5D(&EN(%!A M<W1E57`N("!/=7(@;6%R9VEN<R!A<F4@=F5R>2!T:&EN(&%T('1H:7,@<')I M8V4L7`IB=70@=V4G9"!L:6ME('1O(&AA=F4@82!L87)G97(@:6YS=&%L;&5D M(&)A<V4L('-O('=E)W)E('=I;&QI;F<@=&\@9VEV95P*:70@82!S:&]T+EP* M7`I396YD(&]R9&5R<R!T;R`B:6YF;T!R:6=H=&)R86EN+F-O;2(@;W(@9&]U M8FQE+6-L:6-K('1H92!F;VQL;W=I;F<@<')O9W)A;5P*=&\@9V5T(&UO<F4@ M:6YF;W)M871I;VX@86)O=70@:70@9G)O;2!O=7(@9FEL92!S97)V97(Z7`I< M"@I[>UQ.1T9O;&1E<C$S,#,@4V%L94EN9F\*-#@R($TG658P-%PJ4"HY+R1# M.4178"$H2C<L0E!(/"XG)"(M*D<D0#%@*$(K+59+-&`F)U$H0$`Y)E--6D$L M)S$*34A41#`L5D%,(24D0SDP5#DL5EL\2"0G(SA05#HM1BDX2RQ"4TE<7C\P M*"PJ)S1*5$HM)D,R*2Q*1S-`0@I-46!,43H]4EQ&*"TF0#@H4CA=(EQ@,B8B M(DE(4#M-.RPD,"8B(U!`3B)-2B0R/"PF,2A,63<N/C0\-"PF"DTA*217.%Y* M5$8T3"<[3"(A(3!>,BT\+E93+4Q2/$Y00"%"*$=3,414/2PS*#8^3R91.4!7 M.SI2+F`G)D<*32PY5%(H+D)`,C`O5T,Q3#!%75<L/C,L4%TE.%DY/"LL1C4L M)RU(0%H\3C507T1()U$E/E@X/#LP2C(N,`I-,S%;/S@^(V!&-4XF0RA:2S8[ M/BHT+$\V*S503BA.,S)-.$TW*U5>7V!`1#H_*"P](2XF(4%1+$\[3U!8"DU< M3C)(14,D2S8D2E]/3U=;7B\O2U=<7E]/7U]?8&`X2%@H8"0E1D-`0#!`1DHN M(B(C(SM(6"@L,#%"0T$*04$A,38Z+B8E)B8Z2%@X.#P]3D-!05(B)BHN*B@I M*3E(6$A$2$E*0T)"0#@B"F`*?0JL?5QP87)D7'1X,3<R,%QT>#,T-#!<='@U M,3@P7'1X-CDP,%QT>#@V-#!<='@Q,#,V,%QT>#$R,#@P7'1X,3,X,C!<='@Q M-34T,%QT>#$W,C@P7&8P7&(P7&DP7'5L,%QF<S(T7&9C,"!<"EP*+2U<"B!' 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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: andrew@stone.com (Andrew Stone) Subject: Re: 3DReality Demo - Can't render Message-ID: <1993Aug6.010852.29147@stone.com> Keywords: head butt Sender: andrew@stone.com Organization: Stone Design Corp References: <23q02a$8bs@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1993 01:08:52 GMT It's much, much better now, thank you! One of those way strange bugs of quite simplistic proportions when found, but totally a head butt until then. Apparently, we were writing to an NXRect * instead of an NXRect. The real 1.4 is: -rw-rw-rw- 1 ftp 3751936 Aug 3 21:02 Reality_1.4.tar sum Reality_1.4.tar 52259 3664 Accept no substitutes, the rendering works fine on the demo! andrew In article <23q02a$8bs@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Joseph W Reiss) writes: > > Get ready for a potentially stupid question, folks. > > I recently downloaded the newest version of 3DReality (Demo disabled) > from orst. I run it, and everything works great. Obviously, I can't > save. That's part of being a demo. But I don't remember the demo > docs saying I couldn't render an image... > > When I use the InstaRender (QuickieRender, whatever it's called), > things work alright. But when I select Render... from the Document > menu, the program just quits on me. All the windows disappear and the > program dies. Is this part of the demo disabling, or am I doing > something wrong? > > See, I told you it was a stupid question :-) > Joe > -- > __________ | NeXTMail accepted, but not preferred > | |___) | """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" > \_/OE | \EISS | Real programmers don't comment their code. If it was > `---- | hard to write, it should be hard to read. -- ||<<->>||<<==>>||<<++>>||<<?>>||<<+>>||<<-->>||<<==>>||<<+>>|| !! Andrew Stone !! (505) 345-4800 !! !! andrew@stone.com <> Stone Design Corp !! ||<<->>||<<==>>||<<++>>||<<?>>||<<+>>||<<-->>||<<==>>||<<+>>||
From: ravine@jnext.ucsd.edu (Michael Ravine) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Copying from Mail.app Date: 6 Aug 1993 04:14:17 GMT Organization: A poorly-installed InterNetNews site Message-ID: <23slqpINN4sf@network.ucsd.edu> References: <1993Aug3.170725.7431@ToTSySSoft.com> In article <1993Aug3.170725.7431@ToTSySSoft.com> bruce@TotSysSoft.com (Bruce Gingery) writes: > In article <1993Aug2.174654.7156@newshost.lanl.gov> > silbar@cantina.lanl.gov (Dick Silbar) writes: > -> > [deleted, on copy and paste from Edit.app] > -> > -> One thing that has annoyed me above selecting something > -> from a mail message for copying into an Edit window is > -> that, doing so, always turns that Edit file into > -> RTF. Which I thrn have to "make ASCII" to get back > -> to where I wanted. But, maybe there is something I'm > -> missing--is there a way to avoid this? > -> > -> Dick Silbar > > Dick, > Check your preferences in Edit.app for what kind of > window you open with the File > New option. It's shipped > set for Rich-Text if I'm not mistaken. > > Bruce I've had a similar problem using Edit under the Services menu from Mail.app. I want to save part of a Mail message as ASCII (a BinHexed Word or Excel file, typically) I have set the new file preference in Edit to ASCII and quit. Then, I selected text in a Mail window, and invoked Services > Edit > Save Selection. It brings up an Untitled.rtf window. And then sticks the Save panel in front of it, so I can't change it to ASCII without opening it again. That was with Edit's Developer preference. To add insult to injury, if I do the same thing in User mode, it has the same behavior, EXCEPT is brings up this other non-RTF window before it puts my selected text in an RTF window. Any insight into this problem would be appreciated. Mike Ravine
From: jeffk@garnet.msen.com (Jeff Kopmanis) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,alt.fan.bill-gates,comp.os.linux Subject: Re: From your friends at UNIXWorld Date: 6 Aug 1993 04:17:00 GMT Organization: Msen, Inc. -- Ann Arbor, Michigan Distribution: world,happynet Message-ID: <23slvt$eim@nigel.msen.com> References: <1993Jul30.151758.10206@unislc.slc.unisys.com> Thayne Forbes (thayne@unislc.slc.unisys.com) wrote: : Wade Guthrie (wade@nb.rockwell.com) wrote: : : danubius@halcyon.com (Joseph R. Pannon) writes: : : >In article <1993Jul28.071054.24227@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> abulhak@nyx.cs.du.edu (Andrew_-_Bulhak) writes: : : >>If you don't like the lack of a slick installation procedure, what are : : >>you doing with Linux? People who can't hack Unix should stick with : : >>OS/2 and DOS. : : >That's one of the silliest arguments I've read in this group. How is : : >one to learn to be a Unix hacker if he already has to be one to install : : >a Unix? : : You're right, that's a silly argument. : : Man, what do you want from *FREE* software? : : Linux has the disadvantage that it's TOO GOOD. It looks too much like : : commercial software; so, when people see it, they get upset that it : : doesn't look *more* like commercial software. : Now that is one of the more silly arguments I have seen. I just want : good software. Some times I pay for it. Some times I get it free. : Some times I write it. BUT. It should always be good and easy to : install and use. I said that that is one of the things that I like : about Microsoft products. I said that it was a disappointment in : Linux. Are you saying that I should pay for Linux before I can : bitch, or are you saying that we should all make it worse to install? You obviously haven't tried installing the Oracle ODBC drivers that Microsoft ships with MS Access. There is a small README.TXT file that has roughly 16 steps that you have to perform IN ADDITION TO THE WINDOZE INSTALL PROCEDURE to get the !@#$$% thing to work. THEN, if the Earth, Moon and Sun are all aligned correctly, and if you hold a half-blind canary near the ceiling and face a Window, then, and only then, will the thing work. That's the install. Should I talk about the Access software? Version 1.1 (a supposed bug-fix) doesn't seem to be all that bug-free compared to the last fiasco (i.e. "software release"). Should I talk about MS compilers? Versions 4.0, 5.0, 5.1 6.0 6.0a 6.0b and 7.0 have glaring bugs in them. Don't complain about SLS or MCC Linux installs. They may not be pretty, but they work "as advertised" with few surprises. The most difficult thing for me was to figure out how to correctly partition my hard drives to get everything to work together. I've been running Linux since December 1992, and its been a real performer. While Windoze and DOS have required the use of more and more powerful hardware, Linux screams on my older 386. It literally has prolonged the life of my machine. I don't use X, as I don't have quite the memory for it, but if I got 8MB instead of 4, I'd be all set. -Jeff. :) -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jeff Kopmanis (Ann Arbor, Michigan) | email: jeffk@msen.com Organizer of the Linux Software Map (LSM) | phone: (313) 393-4784 (work)
From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Need suggestions for NS/FIP software (LONG) Message-ID: <70115@mimsy.umd.edu> Date: 6 Aug 93 03:49:53 GMT References: <238tn2$a4@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu> <23gth1$h3@marsu.tynet.sub.org> Sender: news@mimsy.umd.edu Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742 fischedj@ NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (David J. Fischer) writes: > Telecommunications: Is there is anything to utilize a modem? This >doesn't convcern me much now, but I know others who want this support as soon >as they get NS/FIP installed. I have heard of SLiPCommander (sp?), but beyond >that I am completely ignorant on the topic. you can get a NS/FIP version of kermit from watson.columbia.edu for free in the directory /pub/kermit/bin -- read the READ.ME file for the file name. kermit uses commands instead of mouse clicks but is extremely easy to use, works everywhere, has lots of features, and its latest version is pretty reasonably fast. people used to seem to think that sz/rz were much faster, and least in the old days, but I found no difference compared to a properly configured version of the new C-kermit. actually kermit was faster more often than not. and its certainly easier to use. -- Alex Blakemore alex@cs.umd.edu NeXT mail accepted -------------------------------------------------------------- "Without an engaged and motivated human being at the keyboard, the computer is just another dumb box." William Raspberry
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: tlm@tantalus.scl.ameslab.gov (Tom Marchioro) Subject: Re: DateBook Message-ID: <CBBM1A.4tF@news.iastate.edu> Sender: news@news.iastate.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA References: <CBAqq8.G6s@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1993 04:34:22 GMT david.k.kallman writes []Folks, [] []Could someone please NeXTmail me a copy of the DateBook []application from NeXTStep 2.1? It disappeared on upgrade []to 3.0 and now 3.1. I'll post a message as soon as I []receive a copy. []P.S.: Are there any good alternatives? []-- If you haven't received one by now I'm more than happy to send it, but if your .mbox is full of copies of Date then. . .. . While there are some alternatives (Cassandra comes to mind) I must admit that after trying several demos, registering for Cassandra, etc. I have ended up just using Date. Really does the things that an individual user needs. The QUESTION IS, will there be some way to get the same functionality in NS-Intel? (we are loading up a machine tomorrow). Was the source to Date ever available? and if so could someone cross compile it? Tom -- Dr. Thomas L. Marchioro II Two-wheeled theoretical physicist Center for Physical and Computational Mathematics 515-294-6629 Ames Laboratory 515-233-1216 (home) Ames, Iowa 50011 tlm@iastate.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: chris@iastate.edu (Chris Wong) Subject: Re: Problems with ET4000 on ISA machine Message-ID: <chris.744615648@vincent2.iastate.edu> Sender: news@news.iastate.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA References: <1993Jul27.234719.902@sgcl1.unisg.ch> <1993Jul28.054338.21096@uwasa.fi> Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1993 05:40:48 GMT In <1993Jul28.054338.21096@uwasa.fi> hv@uwasa.fi (Harri Valkama) writes: >In article <1993Jul27.234719.902@sgcl1.unisg.ch> ckuhn@sgcl1.unisg.ch writes: >>Hi >> >>I have a Tseng Lag ET4000 card on my machine with .5 MB of memory, but >>unfortunatley I can only run NeXT successfully in VGA mode. When I install the What is the number on the ET4000 chip? It should be ET4000AX. <--- AX! -- Chris Wong | "Hardware is supposed to serve Software." chris@iastate.edu | Computer Engineering & Computer Science twba8@isuvax.iastate.edu | Iowa State University of Science and Technology
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: chris@iastate.edu (Chris Wong) Subject: Re: Larger Terminal in MicroPhone Pro? Message-ID: <chris.744615820@vincent2.iastate.edu> Sender: news@news.iastate.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA References: <238qes$r62@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <1993Jul31.024445.28433@svcdudes.com> Distribution: na Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1993 05:43:40 GMT In <1993Jul31.024445.28433@svcdudes.com> moose@svcdudes.com writes: >In article <238qes$r62@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> >jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Joseph W Reiss) writes: >> >> >> Has anyone managed some kind of hack to get MicroPhone to give a >> bigger terminal? What are the chances of this being builtin to future >> releases? As things stand right now, this is the only thing that is >> keeping me from thoroughly enjoying this program. >This is the highest priority to fix for 2.0. But 2.0 may be a while yet. Then >again, when serial ports work under Intel machines, maybe sales will justify a >2.0 :->. What kinds of modems are supported under MicroPhone Pro and NS/FIP? Is Hayes compatible modem supported? >> >> P.S.: Has anyone else had problems submitting to the MicroPhone >> mailing list? Has anyone gotten any messages from it recently? >I've been receiving notes. I even received yours. I responded to it, so I >thought you had gotten it. >-- >Michael Rutman | moose@svcdudes.com >Cubist | makes me a NeXT programmer >Software Ventures | maker of MicroPhone Pro >#include <std.disclaimer> | really offensive political statement -- Chris Wong | "Hardware is supposed to serve Software." chris@iastate.edu | Computer Engineering & Computer Science twba8@isuvax.iastate.edu | Iowa State University of Science and Technology
From: marc@ashley.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Marc Day) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Slpitting large files to DOS disk Date: 6 Aug 1993 09:10:48 GMT Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office Sender: marc@ashley (Marc Day) Distribution: world Message-ID: <23t76o$cun@news.mic.ucla.edu> References: <236pfb$nhd@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu> In article <236pfb$nhd@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu>, mcconnap@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Andy McConnell) writes: |> I need to split a large (5MB+) file onto several DOS formatted diskettes. The |> file then needs to be recombined on a DOS machine. |> |> (yeah, I know... but it's for a friend who has no net connection. He works on |> a SCO 386 (unix) and wants emacs badly. I have no access to SCO boxes, and he |> no access to NeXT's. Our plan: ftp->NeXT->DOS->SCO.) |> |> I am running NS 2.1 on a '040 slab. |> |> I am looking for a common (DOS?) archiver with source available so i can make |> it myself for the NeXT. arj is one example, but its creator hasn't released |> the source. |> |> If you know of any available programs to accomplish this, please let me know. |> Or if you can think of a better way, I'd love to hear it! |> |> Thanks in advance... |> |> -- |> Andy McConnell mcconnap@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu |> Fluid Science Learning Center Developer |> CS BS '93 Rose-Hulman Institute Of Technology |> "The beaurocratic mentality is the only constant in the universe." Try "shar". I got my copy from Archie, but the contact/author is listed as Rich $alz BBN Laboratories, Inc. 10 Moulton Street Cambridge, MA 02238 rsalz@bbn.com rsalz@uunet.uu.net Good Luck! PS. I use it on a Unix system, but he says it was also written for MSDOS. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marc Day, graduate student _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ Institute of Plasma Fusion Research _/_/ _ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ 44-139 Engineering IV _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/ University of California _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ Los Angeles, CA 90024-1597 _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ Internet: day@fusion.ucla.edu ...surf in peace, with your best friends --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: marc@ashley.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Marc Day) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: f2c --- WHERE may I find it??? Date: 6 Aug 1993 09:53:57 GMT Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office Sender: marc@ashley (Marc Day) Distribution: world Message-ID: <23t9nl$cun@news.mic.ucla.edu> References: <23rq43$ebt@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> In article <23rq43$ebt@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>, lones@lones.mit.edu (Lones A. Smith) writes: |> and what is the path name too??? |> |> Thanks, |> |> Lones A. Smith |> |> Department of Economics |> MIT E52-252C |> Cambridge MA 02139 |> v-mail: (617) 253-0914 -- Even I can get this one! Following describes NETLIB and ftp access. From the f2c distribution: ====== old index for f2c, now "readme from f2c" ============ FILES: f2c.h Include file necessary for compiling output of the converter. See the second NOTE below. f2c.1 Man page for f2c. f2c.1t Source for f2c.1 (to be processed by troff -man or nroff -man). libf77 Library of non I/O support routines the generated C may need. Fortran main programs result in a C function named MAIN__ that is meant to be invoked by the main() in libf77. libi77 Library of Fortran I/O routines the generated C may need. Note that some vendors (e.g., BSD, Sun and MIPS) provide a libF77 and libI77 that are incompatible with f2c -- they provide some differently named routines or routines with the names that f2c expects, but with different calling sequences. On such systems, the recommended procedure is to merge libf77 and libi77 into a single library, say libf2c, and to install it where you can access it by specifying -lf2c . The definition of link_msg in sysdep.c assumes this arrangement. f2c.ps Postscript for a technical report on f2c. After you strip the mail header, the first line should be "%!PS". fixes The complete change log, reporting bug fixes and other changes. (Some recent change-log entries are given below). fc A shell script that uses f2c and imitates much of the behavior of commonly found f77 commands. You will almost certainly need to adjust some of the shell-variable assignments to make this script work on your system. SUBDIRECTORY: f2c/src Source for the converter itself, including a file of checksums and source for a program to compute the checksums (to verify correct transmission of the source), is available: ask netlib to send all from f2c/src If the checksums show damage to just a few source files, or if the change log file (see "fixes" below) reports corrections to some source files, you can request those files individually "from f2c/src". For example, to get defs.h and xsum0.out, you would ask netlib to send defs.h xsum0.out from f2c/src "all from f2c/src" is about 640 kilobytes long; for convenience (and checksums), it includes copies of f2c.h, f2c.1, and f2c.1t. Tip: if asked to send over 99,000 bytes in one request, netlib breaks the shipment into 1000 line pieces and sends each piece separately (since otherwise some mailers might gag). To avoid the hassle of reassembling the pieces, try to keep each request under 99,000 bytes long. The final number in each line of xsum0.out gives the length of each file in f2c/src. For example, send exec.c expr.c from f2c/src send format.c format_data.c from f2c/src will give you slightly less hassle than send exec.c expr.c format.c format_data.c from f2c/src Alternatively, if all the mailers in your return path allow long messages, you can supply an appropriate mailsize line in your netlib request, e.g. mailsize 200k send exec.c expr.c format.c format_data.c from f2c/src If you have trouble generating gram.c, you can ask netlib to send gram.c from f2c/src Then `xsum gram.c` should report gram.c 205b188 57336 NOTE: For now, you may exercise f2c by sending netlib a message whose first line is "execute f2c" and whose remaining lines are the Fortran 77 source that you wish to have converted. Return mail brings you the resulting C, with f2c's error messages between #ifdef uNdEfInEd and #endif at the end. (To understand line numbers in the error messages, regard the "execute f2c" line as line 0. It is stripped away by the netlib software before f2c sees your Fortran input.) Options described in the man page may be transmitted to netlib by having the first line of input be a comment whose first 6 characters are "c$f2c " and whose remaining characters are the desired options, e.g., "c$f2c -R -u". This scheme may change -- ask netlib to send index from f2c if you do not get the behavior you expect. During the initial experimental period, incoming Fortran will be saved in a file. Don't send any secrets! FTP: All the material described above is now available by ftp from research.att.com (login: netlib; Password: your E-mail address; cd f2c). You must uncompress the .Z files once you have a copy of them, e.g., by uncompress *.Z Subdirectory msdos contains two PC versions of f2c, f2c.exe.Z and f2cx.exe.Z; the latter uses extended memory. The README in that directory provides more details. Current timestamps of files in "all from f2c/src", sorted by time, appear below (mm/dd/year hh:mm:ss). To bring your source up to date, obtain source files with a timestamp later than the time shown in your version.c. Note that the time shown in the current version.c is the timestamp of the source module that immediately follows version.c below: 6/18/1993 13:53:11 xsum0.out 6/18/1993 1:15:20 gram.dcl 6/18/1993 1:15:16 gram.head 6/04/1993 1:44:09 version.c 6/04/1993 1:43:59 formatdata.c 6/01/1993 23:10:00 f2c.h 6/01/1993 23:00:00 proc.c 6/01/1993 12:19:32 names.c 4/27/1993 16:06:59 makefile 4/23/1993 18:34:30 put.c 4/21/1993 16:53:08 exec.c 4/18/1993 19:53:34 equiv.c 4/17/1993 14:33:24 format.c 4/17/1993 14:12:45 putpcc.c 4/17/1993 9:47:04 misc.c 4/17/1993 9:14:52 niceprintf.c 4/17/1993 8:17:51 defs.h 4/06/1993 13:27:22 intr.c 3/30/1993 7:16:05 expr.c 3/18/1993 12:30:34 xsum.c 3/18/1993 12:29:39 README 3/08/1993 16:48:44 output.c 3/06/1993 14:13:58 gram.expr 3/04/1993 14:59:25 gram.exec 3/04/1993 14:00:19 main.c 3/04/1993 13:57:37 init.c 2/08/1993 15:03:27 lex.c 2/08/1993 14:52:58 error.c 2/05/1993 1:37:14 io.c 2/02/1993 12:20:34 f2c.1 2/01/1993 19:24:07 Notice 2/01/1993 8:37:12 sysdep.c 1/29/1993 12:29:27 f2c.1t 1/28/1993 9:03:16 ftypes.h 1/27/1993 10:22:56 mem.c 1/25/1993 11:26:33 defines.h 1/25/1993 10:36:05 data.c 1/20/1993 0:03:18 pread.c 1/19/1993 9:24:08 p1output.c 6/27/1992 14:50:07 vax.c 10/15/1991 1:26:39 sysdep.h 2/08/1991 11:29:18 malloc.c 7/26/1990 10:54:47 parse_args.c 7/26/1990 10:44:26 parse.h 4/18/1990 12:25:18 cds.c 4/06/1990 0:00:57 gram.io 3/27/1990 16:39:18 names.h 3/27/1990 10:05:15 p1defs.h 2/16/1990 10:37:27 tokens 2/14/1990 2:00:20 format.h 2/14/1990 1:38:46 output.h 2/14/1990 0:54:06 iob.h 2/03/1990 0:58:26 niceprintf.h 1/29/1990 13:26:52 memset.c 1/07/1990 1:20:01 usignal.h 11/27/1989 8:27:37 machdefs.h 7/01/1989 11:59:44 pccdefs.h -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marc Day, graduate student _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ Institute of Plasma Fusion Research _/_/ _ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ 44-139 Engineering IV _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/ University of California _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ Los Angeles, CA 90024-1597 _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ Internet: day@fusion.ucla.edu ...surf in peace, with your best friends --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: kschulz@iva.k8.rt.bosch.de (Kay Schulz K8/IVA Tel. ++49-7121-35-1341) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: FrameMaker for NS/FIP Message-ID: <189@boschrt.rt.bosch.de.bosch.de> Date: 6 Aug 93 12:40:34 GMT References: <23qrhs$2m6@disuns2.epfl.ch> Sender: news@rt.bosch.de.bosch.de Organization: Robert Bosch GmbH., Reutlingen, Germany. In article 2m6@disuns2.epfl.ch, madon@disuns2.epfl.ch (Dominik Madon) writes: >Hi, > >Is there someone on the net how knew if FrameMaker >will be ported on NS/FIP (or not) ? > >Thanks for answers > > > >Dominik Frame says they are not willing to port it to NSI... A lot of people in the NeXT surroundings wrote them emails (me , too) but the answer was, that FrameMaker for NeXT was a fast an dirty hack and they don't know if they can and want port it. I think they will wait and see, how many people buy this OS and then they decide. --- /* Kay Schulz kschulz@iva.k8.rt.bosch.de */ /* Man and nations will act rationally when all other */ /* possibilities have been exhausted. */
From: kimmel@nic.umass.edu (Matt Kimmel,A155 LGRC,(413) 545-1607,) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Dots availability in US? Date: 6 Aug 1993 13:08:59 GMT Organization: University of Massachusetts/Amherst Distribution: world Message-ID: <23tl5b$6qr@nic.umass.edu> Does anyone know of a source where I can purchase Dots (the full package, not the demo) in the US? Or anything similar? Basically I need a way to print to my LaserJet IIP-compatible non-postscript printer more reliably than with the public-domain DeskJet driver. Thanks! -Matt --- Matt Kimmel Networking Assistant Univ. of Mass. E-mail: kimmel@nic.umass.edu Phone: (413) 545-1607 Fax: (413) 545-3203 ------------ Opinions! Hundreds of 'em! And all MINE!! -------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,alt.fan.bill-gates,comp.os.linux From: scjack@ausvm1.austin.ibm.com[Jack Carter] Subject: Re: From your friends at UNIXWorld Sender: news@hawnews.watson.ibm.com (NNTP News Poster) Message-ID: <CBCBo9.GsE@hawnews.watson.ibm.com> Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1993 13:48:09 GMT Distribution: world,happynet News-Software: IBM OS/2 PM RN (NR/2) v0.17h by O. Vishnepolsky and R. Rogers Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM. References: <1993Jul30.151758.10206@unislc.slc.unisys.com> <23slvt$eim@nigel.msen.com> Organization: IBM Austin In <23slvt$eim@nigel.msen.com> jeffk@garnet.msen.com (Jeff Kopmanis) writes: >Thayne Forbes (thayne@unislc.slc.unisys.com) wrote: >: Wade Guthrie (wade@nb.rockwell.com) wrote: >: : danubius@halcyon.com (Joseph R. Pannon) writes: > >: : >In article <1993Jul28.071054.24227@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> abulhak@nyx.cs.du.edu (Andrew_-_Bulhak) writes: >: : >>If you don't like the lack of a slick installation procedure, what are >: : >>you doing with Linux? People who can't hack Unix should stick with >: : >>OS/2 and DOS. > >: : >That's one of the silliest arguments I've read in this group. How is >: : >one to learn to be a Unix hacker if he already has to be one to install >: : >a Unix? > >: : You're right, that's a silly argument. > >: : Man, what do you want from *FREE* software? >: : Linux has the disadvantage that it's TOO GOOD. It looks too much like >: : commercial software; so, when people see it, they get upset that it >: : doesn't look *more* like commercial software. > >: Now that is one of the more silly arguments I have seen. I just want >: good software. Some times I pay for it. Some times I get it free. >: Some times I write it. BUT. It should always be good and easy to >: install and use. I said that that is one of the things that I like >: about Microsoft products. I said that it was a disappointment in >: Linux. Are you saying that I should pay for Linux before I can >: bitch, or are you saying that we should all make it worse to install? > >You obviously haven't tried installing the Oracle ODBC drivers that >Microsoft ships with MS Access. There is a small README.TXT file that has >roughly 16 steps that you have to perform IN ADDITION TO THE WINDOZE INSTALL >PROCEDURE to get the !@#$$% thing to work. THEN, if the Earth, Moon and Sun >are all aligned correctly, and if you hold a half-blind canary near the >ceiling and face a Window, then, and only then, will the thing work. That's >the install. Should I talk about the Access software? Version 1.1 (a >supposed bug-fix) doesn't seem to be all that bug-free compared to the last >fiasco (i.e. "software release"). Should I talk about MS compilers? >Versions 4.0, 5.0, 5.1 6.0 6.0a 6.0b and 7.0 have glaring bugs in them. > >Don't complain about SLS or MCC Linux installs. They may not be pretty, but >they work "as advertised" with few surprises. The most difficult thing for >me was to figure out how to correctly partition my hard drives to get >everything to work together. > >I've been running Linux since December 1992, and its been a real performer. >While Windoze and DOS have required the use of more and more powerful >hardware, Linux screams on my older 386. It literally has prolonged the >life of my machine. I don't use X, as I don't have quite the memory for it, >but if I got 8MB instead of 4, I'd be all set. > >-Jeff. :) > >-- >----------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Jeff Kopmanis (Ann Arbor, Michigan) | email: jeffk@msen.com >Organizer of the Linux Software Map (LSM) | phone: (313) 393-4784 (work) Can we please take this stuff to alt.fan.linux of something ???? Come on , give us a break, I go to this news group to read more about how the evil Bill the Gates ( the Anti-Coder ) plans to steal the world, and to find where the pull down is going to be on my new 'Windos Toaster' to make good pop-tarts. Jack D. Carter Jr. I Speek for no-one ( not even myself....my wife does that ) Only working at IBM, not Representing IBM
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: gbol@nos40nm.shell.com (Gregory B. Lampshire) Subject: Re: Adobe Acrobat In-Reply-To: iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu's message of 3 Aug 1993 00:24:20 GMT Message-ID: <GBOL.93Aug5082516@nos40nm.shell.com> Sender: usenet@shellgate.shell.com (USENET News System) Organization: Shell Offshore, Inc References: <23k51r$hrr@lll-winken.llnl.gov> <23kb7k$7lk@news.mic.ucla.edu> Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1993 13:25:16 GMT In article <23k51r$hrr@lll-winken.llnl.gov> borchers@llnl.gov writes: >I just got copies of the Acrobat applications, Exchange and Distiller, for >the Mac and Windows. I am very impressed with the results. In one case >distiller took a 2 MByte postscript file and reduced it to 20K and the >printed output still looks very good. There was a distiller.app on NeXT out there a long time ago---probably the first there ever was. (I have a vague recollection that maybe Glenn Reid had written it.) The author abandoned it because NeXT/Adobe took out the Display Postscript operator that allowed file-writing for ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ security reasons (one could destroy files by looking at a mailed ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ If you start up a DPS connection via _DPS...() instead of DPS...() you can use the ps operator for file writing. Look for psh in hackkit or hackutils (or something like that on sonata). This worked under 2.1---don't know about 3.X. Postscript image). Real Pity. I liked distiller a lot, too. ^^^^^^^^^ <-- sounds interesting gregory gbol@rglnext.geol.vt.edu gbol@shell.com
From: rainer@fml.tuwien.ac.at (Rainer Staringer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Improv for NS/FIP? Date: 6 Aug 1993 15:56:32 GMT Organization: Financial Markets Lab, TU Vienna Distribution: world Message-ID: <23tuvg$3ns@email.tuwien.ac.at> I'd like to know if Improv is available for NS/FIP yet? If not, when is it going to get ported? Thanks, Rainer -- Rainer Staringer | rainer@fml.tuwien.ac.at Financial Markets Lab, TU Vienna | +43 (1) 58801/8138
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: wbeeck@dart.de (Wilfried Beeck) Subject: Re: Dots availability in US? Message-ID: <1993Aug6.164857.434@dart.de> Sender: wbeeck@dart.de Organization: d'ART Computersysteme GmbH References: <23tl5b$6qr@nic.umass.edu> Date: Fri, 6 Aug 93 16:48:57 GMT In article <23tl5b$6qr@nic.umass.edu> kimmel@nic.umass.edu (Matt Kimmel,A155 LGRC,(413) 545-1607,) writes: > Does anyone know of a source where I can purchase Dots (the full package, not > the demo) in the US? Or anything similar? Basically I need a way to print to > my LaserJet IIP-compatible non-postscript printer more reliably than with the > public-domain DeskJet driver. > Our US distributor for all d'ART products, including Screen Machine, Variodata and Dots is Alembic Systems International Ltd. 14 Inverness Drive East, Suite G-228 Englewood, Colorado 80112 303-799 6223 303-799 1435 fax info@alembic.com -- Wilfried Beeck d'ART Computer GmbH (49)40-38023-0 Virchowstrasse 17-19 (49)40-38023-290 fax
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: silbar@cantina.lanl.gov (Dick Silbar) Subject: Re: Copying from Mail.app (Was: Copying between windows, any software?) Message-ID: <1993Aug6.151323.22001@newshost.lanl.gov> Sender: news@newshost.lanl.gov Organization: Los Alamos National Lab References: <1993Aug3.170725.7431@ToTSySSoft.com> Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1993 15:13:23 GMT In article <1993Aug3.170725.7431@ToTSySSoft.com> bruce@TotSysSoft.com (Bruce Gingery) writes: > In article <1993Aug2.174654.7156@newshost.lanl.gov> > silbar@cantina.lanl.gov (Dick Silbar) writes: > -> > [deleted, on copy and paste from Edit.app] > -> > -> One thing that has annoyed me above selecting something > -> from a mail message for copying into an Edit window is > -> that, doing so, always turns that Edit file into > -> RTF. Which I then have to "make ASCII" to get back > -> to where I want to be. But, maybe there is something I'm > -> missing--is there a way to avoid this? > -> > -> Dick Silbar > > Dick, > Check your preferences in Edit.app for what kind of > window you open with the File > New option. It's shipped > set for Rich-Text if I'm not mistaken. > > Bruce Tain't that way, 'tis Open in ASCII. It's the damn boldface in the headers that screws this up. Dick
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: gvh@metrosoft.com (Gordon Van Huizen) Subject: Macro Utility Message-ID: <1993Aug6.162909.5547@metrosoft.com> Sender: gvh@metrosoft.com Organization: Metrosoft Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1993 16:29:09 GMT We will be releasing a macro utility this fall (called MetroKeys, oddly enough :-). It allows the creation of macro sequences that can be triggered by events such as keystrokes and timers. Any "last call" suggestions for features? Thanks! Gordon -- Gordon Van Huizen vox: 619.488.9411 fax: 619.488.3045 Metrosoft gvh@metrosoft.com [NeXTmail welcome]
From: ernest@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu (Ernest Prabhakar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: FrameMaker for NS/FIP Date: 6 Aug 1993 18:23:10 GMT Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena Distribution: world Message-ID: <23u7ieINN8ah@gap.caltech.edu> References: <189@boschrt.rt.bosch.de.bosch.de> In article <189@boschrt.rt.bosch.de.bosch.de> kschulz@iva.k8.rt.bosch.de (Kay Schulz K8/IVA Tel. ++49-7121-35-1341) writes: > Frame says they are not willing to port it to NSI... > A lot of people in the NeXT surroundings wrote them emails (me , too) > but the answer was, that FrameMaker for NeXT was a fast an dirty > hack and they don't know if they can and want port it. Is there any chance of some 'white knight' taking it over, as RightBrain did with Adobe Illustrator? I'm sure there are a couple small NeXT shops that would love the prestige of Frame and have the expertise and resources and market for doing a 'clean' FrameMaker port? In fact, I remember it being a fairly common practice at one point for companies to subcontract out specialized ports like that - although it usually did not include getting long-term licensing and distribution rights. Does anyone know if Frame is considering anything like this, or what it would involve for them to do so? After all, we don't care who sells it to us, as long as we can get it! -enp -- Ernest N. Prabhakar Caltech High Energy Physics Member, League for Programming Freedom (league@prep.ai.mit.edu) CaJUN President NeXTMail:ernest@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu "...and ourselves, your servants for Jesus sake." - II Cor 4:5b #import <std/disclaimer.h>
From: kaelin@Bridge.COM (Kaelin Colclasure) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: X11R5 available on NS/FIP??? Message-ID: <1669@racerx.bridge.COM> Date: 6 Aug 93 18:50:19 GMT Sender: kaelin@racerx.bridge.COM Organization: Bridge Information Systems Has a port of X11R5 been made available for NS/FIP yet? I have seen some references to a "demo" version of a commercial X-server for NextStep, but I'm looking for "the real thing" (ie. source). // Kaelin Colclasure --------------------------------------------------------- // EMail: kaelin@haji.bridge.com Mail: Bridge Information Systems, Inc. // Voice: (314)567-8463 717 Office Parkway // Fax: (314)432-5391 St. Louis, MO 63141
From: randyc@panix.com (Randy Clyde) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Virus software? Date: 6 Aug 1993 15:23:02 -0400 Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC Message-ID: <23ub2m$iiq@panix.com> Does anyone know about anti-virus software for Next's? Please post or E-mail any information. I would prefer software available over the net.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: rtomasso@Rapnet.Sanders.Lockheed.Com (Richard Tomasso x3061) Subject: NeXTStep on PowerPC Message-ID: <1993Aug6.203214.3224@Rapnet.Sanders.Lockheed.Com> Organization: Sanders Associates References: <23ub2m$iiq@panix.com> Date: Fri, 6 Aug 93 20:32:14 GMT Anyone know if the porting of NeXTStep to the PowerPC platform is planned in the near (or distant) future? It would seem to me to be a great place to try and establish some market share.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,de.comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.misc From: lorinr@altsys.com (Lorin Rivers III) Subject: Re: Urgent! Virtuoso-help needed! Message-ID: <1993Aug6.210042.860@altsys.com> Organization: Altsys Corporation, Richardson, TX References: <1993Aug4.201553.1266@boba.rhein-main.de> <1993Aug5.162003.7529@altsys.com> <CBApG3.CEy@cobra.cs.unm.edu> Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1993 21:00:42 GMT In article <CBApG3.CEy@cobra.cs.unm.edu> ctm@ardi.com writes: >In article <1993Aug5.162003.7529@altsys.com> lorinr@altsys.com (Lorin Rivers III) writes: >>In article <1993Aug4.201553.1266@boba.rhein-main.de> borris@boba.rhein-main.de (Borris Balzer) writes: >>> >>>Hi, NeXT-World! >>> >>>... [problem description elided] >>> >>Borris, >> >>>... [problem solution elided] >> >>-- >>Lorin Rivers Lorin_Rivers@altsys.com >>NEXTSTEP Sales Manager 214.680.2518 > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > >Now that's the kind of sales manager that I like to see. Of course this >begs the question about their technial support. When you talk to technical >support, are they even more responsive and knowlegeable or is it like infants >switched at birth and technical support's response is to try to sell you >something you don't need? > >Pardon the slam on salespeople. Obviously I recognize that the above >is a stereotype. I wanted to thank Lorin and the humorous question just >popped into my head. > > --Cliff > ctm@ardi.com The funny thing is, I was born a tester, transmogrified into a tech support dude and then became a salesman (all of the above at Altsys, a l'il chunk o' heaven). So I can find problems. solve problems or sell you something you do need (I haven't learned how to sell people stuff they don't need). Thanks, Cliff for the kudos.. -- Lorin Rivers Lorin_Rivers@altsys.com NEXTSTEP Sales Manager 214.680.2518 269 W. Renner Parkway NeXT Mail Expected Richardson, Texas 75080 I said it, not my boss
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Adobe Acrobat Date: 6 Aug 1993 21:34:54 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Distribution: world Message-ID: <23uipu$hcm@agate.berkeley.edu> References: <GBOL.93Aug5082516@nos40nm.shell.com> In article <GBOL.93Aug5082516@nos40nm.shell.com> gbol@nos40nm.shell.com (Gregory B. Lampshire) writes: > There was a distiller.app on NeXT out there a long time ago---probably > the first there ever was. (I have a vague recollection that maybe > Glenn Reid had written it.) The author abandoned it because NeXT/Adobe > took out the Display Postscript operator that allowed file-writing for > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > security reasons (one could destroy files by looking at a mailed > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > If you start up a DPS connection via _DPS...() instead of DPS...() > you can use the ps operator for file writing. Look for psh > in hackkit or hackutils (or something like that on sonata). This > worked under 2.1---don't know about 3.X. > _DPSCreateContext() is obsolete for 3.x. It was an undocumented function in 2.x, which later was documented as a NeXTAnswer entry. In 3.x, DPS context which has file write operators enabled can be created by DPSCreateNonsecureContext() and it is documented clearly. And this is the main reason why Public Window Server is very dangeous. I recall that Glenn's distiller for NeXT exec'ed a second copy of WindowServer (DPS interpreter) to do the work, and the capability to run more than one copy of WindowServer became disabled at some point. It seems though that if anyone wants to create a NS version of distiller, it should be possible without relying on either of these capabilities. -- Izumi Ohzawa [ $@Bg_78^=;(J ] USMail: University of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720 Telephone: (510) 642-6440 Fax: (510) 642-3323 Internet: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (NeXTMail OK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: borrel@ludvigsen.dhhalden.no (Borre Ludvigsen) Subject: Re: From tiff to gif? Message-ID: <1993Aug6.213712.16309@dhhalden.no> Sender: news@dhhalden.no (Network News User) Organization: Ostfold College References: <1993Aug5.124521.12659@dxcern.cern.ch> Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1993 21:37:12 GMT Juha Lappalainen writes > Hi! > > Where could I find a program for NeXT that does tiff => gif conversions? > > JUha. Try the pbmplus utilities: tifftopnm <file.tiff> | ppmquant 256 | ppmtogif > <file.gif> It works all the time for me. And the pbmplus package does all sorts of other useful things. Another (slow) alternative is running xv under X11 on your NeXT. - barre ludvigsen
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mdixon@parc.xerox.com (Mike Dixon) Subject: Re: Copying from Mail.app Message-ID: <mdixon.744674783@thelonius> Sender: news@parc.xerox.com Organization: Xerox PARC References: <1993Aug3.170725.7431@ToTSySSoft.com> <23slqpINN4sf@network.ucsd.edu> Date: 6 Aug 93 22:06:23 GMT ... Then, I selected text in a Mail window, and invoked Services > Edit > Save Selection. It brings up an Untitled.rtf window. And then sticks the Save panel in front of it, so I can't change it to ASCII without opening it again. No problem -- you should just be invoking Services > Tickle Services > Save ASCII... You do have TickleServices, right? Doesn't everyone? .mike.
From: glenn@rightbrain.com (Glenn Reid) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Adobe Acrobat Message-ID: <1307@rtbrain.rightbrain.com> Date: 6 Aug 93 23:36:14 GMT References: <23uipu$hcm@agate.berkeley.edu> Sender: glenn@rightbrain.com Izumi Ohzawa writes > I recall that Glenn's distiller for NeXT exec'ed a second copy of > WindowServer (DPS interpreter) to do the work, and the capability to > run more than one copy of WindowServer became disabled at some point. > > It seems though that if anyone wants to create a NS version of distiller, > it should be possible without relying on either of these capabilities. Yes, I think it should be easy enough to resurrect the distillery under 3.X, but it's probably not worth doing. Adobe's industrial-strength distillery is undoubtedly much better, although it generates PDF files instead of PS files. A more worthy endeavor would be to write the PDF->PS translator, rather than to dredge up my distillery. The reason I exec'ed a second copy of the WindowServer was just for efficiency. When you turn DPS loose on something like distilling a PS file, which requires executing a lot of PS, it made the user interface slow down to an absolute crawl, because the "time-slicing" in the DPS interpreter is not particularly good at favoring the UI over another process (like printing or faxing, as you know if your machine has either hooked up to it). If you ran a second copy of DPS, it didn't impact your window environment at all, thanks to the pre-emptive multi- tasking in Mach that works really well. -- Glenn Reid NeXTmail: glenn@rightbrain.com RightBrain Software 415-326-2974 (NeXTfax 326-2977) Palo Alto, California Electronic Frontier Foundation, member #054
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: steve@eps.netcom.com (Steven Kornreich) Subject: NewsGrazer Message-ID: <netnewsCBDKJE.C58@netcom.com> Sender: netnews@netcom.com (USENET Administration) Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) Date: Sat, 7 Aug 1993 05:57:14 GMT I am using Newsgrazer at home with a SLIP connection. Is there anyway for Newsgrazer just load the news groups that I;m interested only!!? RIght now when I start up Newsgrazer it takes a few minutes just to load all the news groups o USENET. -steve
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: ploeger@aplki.toppoint.de (Andreas Ploeger) Subject: For your .pipedict (Edit.app) Message-ID: <1993Aug6.135457.7063@aplki.toppoint.de> Sender: ploeger@aplki.toppoint.de (Andreas Ploeger) Organization: Andreas Ploeger Date: Fri, 6 Aug 93 13:54:57 GMT Hi, I often need to refer in one text file opened in Edit.app to another. Here is a quick little hack for .pipedict that copies the full pathname of a file to the pasteboard. You then just paste the filename into the other text file (by the way: you can then simply open it by selecting the pathname and Command-Shift_O - but you certainly knew that already). Name2PB . echo `pwd`'/'$file | copy Hope you like it, Andreas -------------------------------------------------------------------- Andreas Ploeger E-Mail: ploeger@tpki.toppoint.de Kiel University Phone: (49) 431 597 1757 Clinic for Pediatric Cardiology FAX: (49) 431 597 1828 Schwanenweg 20, 24105 Kiel 1, Germany *** NeXT Mail welcome *** -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Andreas Ploeger E-Mail: ploeger@tpki.toppoint.de
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software From: phaedrus@leland.Stanford.EDU (Avery Wang) Subject: Re: Can one use a HP Deskjet 500C with NS 3.1? Message-ID: <1993Aug6.170419.29038@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA References: <23qnmv$ab@email.tuwien.ac.at> <1993Aug5.211531.424@dart.de> Date: Fri, 6 Aug 93 17:04:19 GMT In article <1993Aug5.211531.424@dart.de> wbeeck@dart.de writes: >In article <23qnmv$ab@email.tuwien.ac.at> gadinger@galadriel.tuwien.ac.at >(Anton Gadinger) writes: >> O.K., it IS a silly question - is there a way to hook a HP DJ 500C to NS >> 3.1 on a 486? Do HP sell a driver or something to make these lowmarket >> things (software side) PostScriptable? Please tell if you know! >> >> Alex Wilkie, currently no email@addr! (sorry) > >We're selling a printer-driver, called "Dots", which allows you to output to >many non-PostScript printing devices, including the HP Deskjet 500C. > Instead of using Dots you might also want to take a look at the stuff I hacked together using Ghostscript for driving the HP550C. I posted the instructions on sonata.cc.purdue.edu several months ago. It's in /pub/next/lore/HPDeskJet550C.tar.Z You just have to select the 500C instead of the 550C when compiling Ghostscript. By now, Ghostscript has gone through several revisions and the instructions may have to be changed a little bit. My method results in passable quality color/text output. On the other hand, if you are willing to shell out the $250 for Dots, it is actually pretty good. I had a chance to see it in action where I work and I was impressed. Good luck, Avery Wang Institut fuer Neuroinformatik (until September 1993, then back) Ruhr-Universitaet Bochum (to Stanford) ND 03/32, Postfach 10 21 48 44780 Bochum Germany Tel: +49-234-700-7994 (office) -7094-210 (Fax) email: avery@ccrma.stanford.edu avery@neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jdc@selway.umt.edu (John-David Childs) Subject: Looking for NeXT .snd->.wav converter/translator Message-ID: <1993Aug5.175222.14458@selway.umt.edu> Organization: University of Montana, Missoula Distribution: usa Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1993 17:52:22 GMT Is there a NeXT program that can convert .snd->.wav files? Can this program play .wav files? What other features does it support. Looking primarily for pd/shareware, but send any info. Thanks. -- John-David Childs Senior Consultant, University of Montana CIS UM Student Health Service HEALTHLINE Gopher Admin jdc@selway.umt.edu, con_jdc@lewis.umt.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,alt.fan.bill-gates,comp.os.linux From: pdcawley@iest.demon.co.uk (Piers Cawley) Organization: NoCo Unlimted In-Reply-To: scjack@ausvm1.austin.ibm.com[Jack Carter]'s message of Fri, 6 Aug 1993 13:48:09 GMT Subject: Re: From your friends at UNIXWorld References: <1993Jul30.151758.10206@unislc.slc.unisys.com> <23slvt$eim@nigel.msen.com> <CBCBo9.GsE@hawnews.watson.ibm.com> Distribution: world,happynet Date: Sat, 7 Aug 1993 15:00:42 +0000 Message-ID: <PDCAWLEY.93Aug7160042@iest.demon.co.uk> Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk In article <CBCBo9.GsE@hawnews.watson.ibm.com> scjack@ausvm1.austin.ibm.com[Jack Carter] writes: >>>> Rather silly arguments about Linux installation removed; > > Can we please take this stuff to alt.fan.linux of something ???? > Come on , give us a break, I go to this news group to read more > about how the evil Bill the Gates ( the Anti-Coder ) plans to steal the > world, and to find where the pull down is going to be on my new > 'Windos Toaster' to make good pop-tarts. Coo, that will be clever if it can really be done. I always thought a good poptart was an oxymoron. -- +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Piers Cawley, 2 Widford Park Place, Chelmsford, ESSEX, CM2 8TB. | | pdcawley@iest.demon.co.uk pdcawley@cix.compulink.co.uk | | Once upon a time, and a very good time it was, there lived a . . . | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: kent@infoserv.com Subject: Re: NewsGrazer Message-ID: <CBECF6.1Dq@infoserv.com> Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard) Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting References: <netnewsCBDKJE.C58@netcom.com> Distribution: na Date: Sat, 7 Aug 1993 15:59:30 GMT In article <netnewsCBDKJE.C58@netcom.com> steve@eps.netcom.com (Steven Kornreich) writes: #I am using Newsgrazer at home with a SLIP connection. Is there anyway for #Newsgrazer just load the news groups that I;m interested only!!? #RIght now when I start up Newsgrazer it takes a few minutes just to load #all the news groups o USENET. Unsubscribe to the one's you aren't interested in looking at. Kent -- /* K.L. Shephard Consulting is my company. Infoserv only delivers my mail. */ /* Please direct mail to kent@infoserv.com other adresses may not work. */
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: john@wpa.com (John Bartley) Subject: Route optimization software for NEXTSTEP? Message-ID: <1993Aug8.023202.11065@nimno.wpa.com> Sender: john@nimno.wpa.com Organization: Workgroup Productivity Associates Date: Sun, 8 Aug 1993 02:32:02 GMT Several years ago the Third Party catalog had an entry for a company that was working on software that would do things like optimize cargo carriers on ships, or something along those lines. Does anyone know if any work has been done on optimizing delivery routes for truck lines, for example? I'm looking for routines that could be easily integrated into a NeXTSTEP app that could analyze customer inventory quantities and develop an optimal delivery schedule taking into account customer proximity, various delivery constraints, and minimizing the loaded miles driven. Most of the firms that have submitted proposals on this project have Ph D's in Operations Research on their project team who would be designing this optimization routine. As it stands now the system will end up running on a VAX. For other reasons, it would be terrific if this could be developed under NS instead. None of the big firms that are proposing solutions have chosen NS, however. If anybody, firms or individuals, has experience in this area and would like to discuss the possibilities with me, please follow up via e-mail for additional information. Thanks. John Bartley john@wpa.com
From: garyc@eecs.nwu.edu (Gary Chang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NewsGrazer Date: 8 Aug 1993 03:45:48 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL USA Distribution: na Message-ID: <241stc$rch@news.acns.nwu.edu> References: <CBECF6.1Dq@infoserv.com> In article <CBECF6.1Dq@infoserv.com> kent@infoserv.com writes: &- In article <netnewsCBDKJE.C58@netcom.com> steve@eps.netcom.com (Steven &- Kornreich) writes: &- #I am using Newsgrazer at home with a SLIP connection. Is there anyway for &- #Newsgrazer just load the news groups that I;m interested only!!? &- #RIght now when I start up Newsgrazer it takes a few minutes just to load &- #all the news groups o USENET. &- &- Unsubscribe to the one's you aren't interested in looking at. &- -- And subscribe those you like in LIST mode. +----------------+ | Gary I. Chang | +----------------+ Northwestern Univ. E-Mail: garyc@eecs.nwu.edu (NeXT-Mail O.K.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jeffblum@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Jeffrey Robert Blum) Subject: robustness of SoftPC for black hardware Message-ID: <1993Aug7.011052.18802@Princeton.EDU> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University Date: Sat, 7 Aug 1993 01:10:52 GMT Does anyone have considerable experience with SoftPC for black hardware running Windows? I am (probably irrationally) considering using it to run programs such as Visual Basic and Visual C++. Is this possible? It would be on a turbo cube. Also, how good is the CD-ROM support? Is it good enough to let you install applications? Can you copy and paste between NeXT and Windows apps? Thanks much for any experiences. -jeff -- "His eyes were eggs of unstable crystal, vibrating with a frequency whose name was rain and the sound of trains, suddenly sprouting a humming forest of hair-fine glass spines." --Neuromancer
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: kbacon@austin.onu.edu (C0d3 M0n$t3r) Subject: ModPlayer for NS/I Sender: usenet@austin.onu.edu (Network News owner) Message-ID: <1993Aug8.062450.49217@austin.onu.edu> Date: Sun, 8 Aug 1993 06:24:50 GMT Organization: Ohio Northern University Is there one? ModPlayer 2.5 and Paula seem to be sourceless and from what I hear are m68k asm anyway. If there isn't one avail. is someone working on one? Thanks for any info... Kyle C. Bacon kbacon@gauss.onu.ed
From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: TopDraw busted under 3.1 (black) Date: 8 Aug 1993 14:02:02 GMT Organization: Division of Information Technology, UW-Madison Message-ID: <24310q$pmb@news.doit.wisc.edu> TopDraw seems to be busted under 3.1. Now *that's* annoying! I have other options, but I also have a lot of TopDraw images. Anyone else run into (and solved) this? -- [Jess Anderson <> Division of Information Technology, University of Wisconsin] [Internet: anderson@macc.wisc.edu <> <> UUCP:{}!uwvax!macc.wisc.edu!anderson] [Room 3130 <> 1210 West Dayton Street / Madison WI 53706 <> Phone 608/262-5888] [--> Anger and intolerance are the twin enemies of correct understanding. <---]
From: green@ids.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,alt.fan.bill-gates,comp.os.linux Subject: Re: From your friends at UNIXWorld Date: 8 Aug 1993 13:21:48 GMT Organization: IDS World Network Internet Access Service Message-ID: <242ulc$io@paperboy.ids.net> In article <1993Aug4.070852.2033@sol.cs.wmich.edu> meshkin@sol.cs.wmich.edu (Parental Advisory) writes: >Awwwww... the good old ORANGE wall was more fun! The gray one can be >mistaken for tiles, or brick mortar... but the orange ones were guarenteed >to catch the eyes (and lunch) of anyone walking in! > >Hmmmm.... maybe the size of the documentation and the "ease-of-use" for an >operating system are inversely proportional? <poke, poke, grin, sorry!> Perhaps if you're like some of us, you have a grey-orange wall :-) A real sickly sight. Goes great with the soda stain on the floor :-) Andy
From: CRACKSTEP@next.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: PRESS RELEASE: MircoPhone Pro Date: Sun, 08 August 1993 19:46:16 GMT Organization: CRACKSTEP Sender: news.next.com Message-ID: <31947@news.next.com> FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE For additional information, contact: Alice CRACKSTEP Phone: (800) CRACKSTE FAX: (800) CRACKSTE Email: alice@wonderland.mil (NeXT Mail) CRACKSTEP International produly presents: MircoPhone Pro for Intel processors v1.0.1 (cracked) WONDERLAND, BC - CRACKSTEP Inc. today announced the crack-release of MircoPhone Pro v1.0.1, a telecommunications software for NEXTSTEP. "I believe that third-party cracks should be as easy to use as registered software. By providing complete high quality cracks and online documentation, and by posting clean cracks and crack tools on the USENET." says Alice, president of CRACKSTEP Int. [Binaries posted in group: comp.sys.next.misc] - Alice
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: austin@netcom.com (Tony Austin) Subject: Re: Adobe Illustrator on Black NeXTSTEP Message-ID: <austinCBGDqG.M2n@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) References: <3AUG199321505761@wccf.mit.edu> Date: Sun, 8 Aug 1993 18:23:03 GMT Adobe illustrator is the reason why I bought a NeXT. Virtuoso is a fine product as well and it really gets down to which one can you as an artist do better work in. I don't have a copy of Virtuoso yet mainly because I have Illustrator so wired that I just have been intimidated in learning something brand new. I am concerned that Adobe has handed Illustrator over to RIGHT BRAIN, which is a very fine company with good products, for I feel that the illustrator program will lose the giant machine of Adobe backing it up. With Adobe 5.0 coming out for the Mac with it's Dimensions program bundled with it I now have a mac on my desk. I wish NeXT would get more software companies to develope for them by inviting the user as well as the custom app crowd. Tony
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) Subject: Re: TopDraw busted under 3.1 (black) Date: Sun, 8 Aug 1993 21:28:40 GMT Message-ID: <jeffo.744845320@owens.slip.uiuc.edu> References: <24310q$pmb@news.doit.wisc.edu> Sender: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Jess Anderson writes: >TopDraw seems to be busted under 3.1. Now *that's* >annoying! I have other options, but I also have a lot of >TopDraw images. A perfect example of why it's so important for programs to support data formats other than their own. I don't know this for a fact, but I heard (way back when Appsoft's Draw came out) that it would support TopDraw files. Did this ever come to be? If so, perhaps loading them in that application might get you to a format that is supported with more widely-used tools (perhaps saving in AutoCAD format from Draw might help). It's a costly approach, but I don't know of any conversion app to convert from one drawing format to another. -- J.B. Nicholson-Owens
From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: DateBook Message-ID: <70192@mimsy.umd.edu> Date: 8 Aug 93 21:38:03 GMT References: <CBAqq8.G6s@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> Sender: news@mimsy.umd.edu Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742 In article <CBAqq8.G6s@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> dkk@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (david.k.kallman) writes: > Could someone please NeXTmail me a copy of the DateBook > P.S.: Are there any good alternatives? yes, PencilMeIn from Sarrus Software info@sarrus.com -- Alex Blakemore alex@cs.umd.edu NeXT mail accepted -------------------------------------------------------------- "Without an engaged and motivated human being at the keyboard, the computer is just another dumb box." William Raspberry
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: brian@wucs1.wustl.edu (Brian) Subject: Re: Copying from Mail.app (Was: Copying between windows, any software?) Message-ID: <1993Aug8.224942.25900@wuecl.wustl.edu> Sender: usenet@wuecl.wustl.edu (News Administrator) Organization: Washington University, School of Engineering, St. Louis MO References: <1993Aug6.151323.22001@newshost.lanl.gov> Date: Sun, 8 Aug 1993 22:49:42 GMT In article <1993Aug6.151323.22001@newshost.lanl.gov> silbar@cantina.lanl.gov (Dick Silbar) writes: > > Dick, > > Check your preferences in Edit.app for what kind of > > window you open with the File > New option. It's shipped > > set for Rich-Text if I'm not mistaken. > > > > Bruce > > Tain't that way, 'tis Open in ASCII. It's the damn boldface in the headers > that screws this up. > > Dick Select the message in Mail.app, but do not click inside the message body itself. Hit 'Copy', then open a new window in Edit and paste there. This will put the entire message, header and all, in ASCII in the window. brian
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Slpitting large files to DOS disk Message-ID: <1993Aug8.103525.10111@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <23t76o$cun@news.mic.ucla.edu> Date: Sun, 8 Aug 1993 10:35:25 GMT In article <23t76o$cun@news.mic.ucla.edu> marc@ashley.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Marc Day) writes: > In article <236pfb$nhd@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu>, mcconnap@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Andy McConnell) writes: > |> I need to split a large (5MB+) file onto several DOS formatted diskettes. The > |> file then needs to be recombined on a DOS machine. > |> > |> (yeah, I know... but it's for a friend who has no net connection. He works on > |> a SCO 386 (unix) and wants emacs badly. I have no access to SCO boxes, and he > |> no access to NeXT's. Our plan: ftp->NeXT->DOS->SCO.) > |> > |> I am running NS 2.1 on a '040 slab. > |> > |> I am looking for a common (DOS?) archiver with source available so i can make > |> it myself for the NeXT. arj is one example, but its creator hasn't released > |> the source. > |> > |> If you know of any available programs to accomplish this, please let me know. > |> Or if you can think of a better way, I'd love to hear it! > |> > > > Try "shar". I got my copy from Archie, but the contact/author is listed > as > > Rich $alz > BBN Laboratories, Inc. > 10 Moulton Street > Cambridge, MA 02238 > rsalz@bbn.com > rsalz@uunet.uu.net > > Good Luck! > > > PS. I use it on a Unix system, but he says it was also written for MSDOS. > The other way (the one that came to my mind first): uuencode the file (compressed tar would be fine), then cut it into pieces of appropriate size and label them consecutively (by use of an editor, as the result of uuencode is plain text). Now you can put it on DOS floppies. On the SCO UNIX you just proceed in reverse, namely paste together with editor, uudecode, uncompress & tar xf (or tar xzf, if GNU tar already made its way to SCO). -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | NeXTmail welcome !!! # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bacchus!eric (Eric Bloom) Subject: Re: From tiff to gif? Message-ID: <1993Aug9.044851.21749@bacchus.com> Sender: eric@bacchus.com Organization: Bacchus, Inc. References: <1993Aug6.213712.16309@dhhalden.no> Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1993 04:48:51 GMT In article <1993Aug6.213712.16309@dhhalden.no> borrel@ludvigsen.dhhalden.no (Borre Ludvigsen) writes: > Juha Lappalainen writes > > Hi! > > > > Where could I find a program for NeXT that does tiff => gif conversions? > > > > JUha. > > Try the pbmplus utilities: > > tifftopnm <file.tiff> | ppmquant 256 | ppmtogif > <file.gif> > > It works all the time for me. And the pbmplus package does all sorts of other > useful things. Another (slow) alternative is running xv under X11 on your NeXT. > > - barre ludvigsen For those that are not comfortable with UNIX command line programs, our Pixel Magician application handles TIFF to GIF and many other image format conversions. Other features include: batch conversion, image viewing, color quantization and dithering, alpha channel support, PostScript to raster, scaling, rotating, variable image resolutions and flexible output options. For more information send e-mail to: info@bacchus.com. Eric Bloom Bacchus, Inc. eric@bacchus.com
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago, academic Computer Center Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1993 03:41:06 CDT From: <U54876@uicvm.uic.edu> Message-ID: <93221.034106U54876@uicvm.uic.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: TopDraw busted under 3.1 (black) References: <24310q$pmb@news.doit.wisc.edu> <jeffo.744845320@owens.slip.uiuc.edu> In article <jeffo.744845320@owens.slip.uiuc.edu>, jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) says: > >Jess Anderson writes: >>TopDraw seems to be busted under 3.1. Now *that's* >>annoying! I have other options, but I also have a lot of >>TopDraw images. > >A perfect example of why it's so important for programs to support >data formats other than their own. I don't know this for a fact, but >I heard (way back when Appsoft's Draw came out) that it would support >TopDraw files. Did this ever come to be? If so, perhaps loading them >in that application might get you to a format that is supported with >more widely-used tools (perhaps saving in AutoCAD format from Draw >might help). It's a costly approach, but I don't know of any >conversion app to convert from one drawing format to another. >-- Appsoft Draw did (does?) support TopDraw files. (I ran away from Draw as quickly as possible when alternatives were released, so I don't know the current status of the product.) -tom nawara nirvana@boss.math.uic.edu ideaLABS
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) Subject: Re: Adobe Illustrator on Black NeXTSTEP Message-ID: <CBHJDM.Ao2@utstat.toronto.edu> Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics References: <3AUG199321505761@wccf.mit.edu> <austinCBGDqG.M2n@netcom.com> Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1993 09:22:33 GMT In article <austinCBGDqG.M2n@netcom.com> austin@netcom.com (Tony Austin) writes: [ ] > >I am concerned that Adobe has handed Illustrator over to RIGHT BRAIN, which >is a very fine company with good products, for I feel that the illustrator >program will lose the giant machine of Adobe backing it up. It seems to me you should be happy at this development. I can't think of a better company to handle Illustrator for the NeXT. As for falling behind, I doubt it. >With Adobe 5.0 coming out for the Mac with it's Dimensions program >bundled with it I now have a mac on my desk. Many people have several platforms. I suspect you will soon be wanting a 486 as sw appears there first. The Mac's marketshare is dropping and many of their key applications are now appearing first under Windows. > >I wish NeXT would get more software companies to develope for them by >inviting the user as well as the custom app crowd. No platform is perfect. The user part will come with the NS/I port as hardware prices continue to fall. There is no longer term future in the "custom app" business. -- Philip McDunnough University of Toronto philip@utstat.toronto.edu [Where sheep may safely graze...]
From: u288869@uebung3.rz.fh-reutlingen.de (Frank Martin Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Adobe Acrobat Date: 9 Aug 1993 10:07:43 GMT Organization: Fachhochschule fuer Technik und Wirtschaft, Reutlingen, Germany Message-ID: <2457lf$fqv@infoserv.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de> References: <23uipu$hcm@agate.berkeley.edu> <1307@rtbrain.rightbrain.com> Keywords: PostScript >Izumi Ohzawa writes: ... >> seems though that if anyone wants to create a NS version of distiller, >> it should be possible without relying on either of these capabilities. > >Glenn Reid writes: >Yes, I think it should be easy enough to resurrect the distillery under >3.X, but it's probably not worth doing. Adobe's industrial-strength >distillery is undoubtedly much better, although it generates PDF files >instead of PS files. A more worthy endeavor would be to write the >PDF->PS translator, rather than to dredge up my distillery. That's true, but as far as I know Adobe Acrobat does not run on NeXT (yet?) and it costs $$$. Therefore I would prefer a more hackish kind of still.ps solution, since for my personal use I don't need an industrial-strength distillery. I played a bit with the latest still.ps version (from ftp.adobe.com). It works without changes in pft. It even creates files, however it fails on NeXT-created PostScript documents that contains images. Looks like it does not like the colorimage operator, oh well... (beside of sucking 100% cpu) Has anyone a more elaborated version than this? I havn't seen the old Distiller.app Glenn Reid once wrote, was it public avaiable? Have a nice day Frank Siegert
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: rick@TotSysSoft.com (Richard Jacoby) Subject: Edit Message-ID: <1993Aug9.061411.2738@ToTSySSoft.com> Sender: news@ToTSySSoft.com Organization: Total System Software Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1993 06:14:11 GMT Does anyone know if there is a way to start Edit with a spesified line selected, from the shell. I mean somthing like this localhost> Edit -l80 Of courst that doesn't work. Rick
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.wais,comp.sys.next.software From: cowboy@trans.csuohio.edu (Joe Rosenfeld) Subject: Emergency NeXT freeWAIS-0.1 request Message-ID: <1993Aug9.103442.21415@news.csuohio.edu> Sender: news@news.csuohio.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Cleveland State University Law Library Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1993 10:34:42 GMT Due to an almost preposterous set of circumstances, last week, I have lost the NeXT 3.0 freeWAIS patches, and the name and email address of the person who so generously contributed them to me before. If this person reads this request, could you please email me the changes again or anonymously ftp them to trans.csuohio.edu:incoming [137.148.22.51]? I would be in your debt. Thanks and best regards- Joe -- | Joe Rosenfeld cowboy@trans.csuohio.edu | CSU Law Library j.rosenfeld@csuohio.edu | "If you always do what you always did, you will always get | what you always got!" B.S.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,alt.fan.bill-gates,comp.os.linux From: kevin@frobozz.sccsi.com (Kevin Brown) Subject: Re: From your friends at UNIXWorld References: <1993Jul30.151758.10206@unislc.slc.unisys.com> <23slvt$eim@nigel.msen.com> Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1993 08:11:58 GMT Distribution: world,happynet Organization: Frobozzco International Message-ID: <CBHG3y.2tH@frobozz.sccsi.com> In article <23slvt$eim@nigel.msen.com> jeffk@garnet.msen.com (Jeff Kopmanis) writes: >Thayne Forbes (thayne@unislc.slc.unisys.com) wrote: >: Wade Guthrie (wade@nb.rockwell.com) wrote: [...] >: : Man, what do you want from *FREE* software? >: : Linux has the disadvantage that it's TOO GOOD. It looks too much like >: : commercial software; so, when people see it, they get upset that it >: : doesn't look *more* like commercial software. > >: Now that is one of the more silly arguments I have seen. I just want >: good software. Some times I pay for it. Some times I get it free. >: Some times I write it. BUT. It should always be good and easy to >: install and use. I said that that is one of the things that I like >: about Microsoft products. I said that it was a disappointment in >: Linux. Are you saying that I should pay for Linux before I can >: bitch, or are you saying that we should all make it worse to install? [Windoze Access 1.1 install horror story deleted] >Don't complain about SLS or MCC Linux installs. They may not be pretty, but >they work "as advertised" with few surprises. The most difficult thing for >me was to figure out how to correctly partition my hard drives to get >everything to work together. Yup. Linux is really great stuff. Highest quality stuff *I've* ever seen. However, I also agree that if a user is having problems installing the software, then (to a point) the installation process could be better. It's a hard problem, though. But the solution is very obvious: if you're new to Linux, managed to install it, like Linux but think the installation could be made a lot easier, then you should get good with Linux (while keeping in mind the pain of installation) and create your own distribution that doesn't have those problems. >I've been running Linux since December 1992, and its been a real performer. >While Windoze and DOS have required the use of more and more powerful >hardware, Linux screams on my older 386. Microsloth doesn't know how to delete code, only how to add code. Code that is buggy and slow. >It literally has prolonged the >life of my machine. I don't use X, as I don't have quite the memory for it, >but if I got 8MB instead of 4, I'd be all set. You *would* like a 486 for X, I can tell you (having upgraded from a 25 MHz 386 to a 33 MHz 486). Even so, Linux hauls, *especially* on a 486. And it is as stable as a rock. I haven't managed to crash it *once* while doing normal Unix things. The only time it locked up on me was when I was playing with Dosemu (word of warning: don't try bringing up Jetfighter II under it. :-). I'm posting this from my Linux box. No problems. Most things compile right out of the box. A few things (BSD things, in particular) need a little coaxing, but it's not bad. Not bad at all. I *love* Linux. The people who have put the time and effort into it have done an *incredible* job. There's no way I could repay them. The tiny things I've contributed are not nearly enough. >-Jeff. :) -- Kevin Brown kevin@frobozz.sccsi.com This is your .signature virus: < begin 644 .signature (9V]T8VAA(0K0z end > This is your .signature virus on drugs: <> Any questions?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,alt.fan.bill-gates,comp.os.linux From: doolitt@cebaf4.cebaf.gov (Larry Doolittle) Subject: Re: From your friends at UNIXWorld Message-ID: <CBHuCr.5J2@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU Organization: CEBAF References: <CBHG3y.2tH@frobozz.sccsi.com> <1993Jul30.151758.10206@unislc.slc.unisys.com> <23slvt$eim@nigel.msen.com> Distribution: world,happynet Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1993 13:19:38 GMT In article <CBHG3y.2tH@frobozz.sccsi.com>, kevin@frobozz.sccsi.com (Kevin Brown) writes: > You *would* like a 486 for X, I can tell you (having upgraded from a 25 MHz > 386 to a 33 MHz 486). Even so, Linux hauls, *especially* on a 486. And it Don't remind me. I go back and forth between a 386DX/25 with ET-4000 (work) and a 486DX2/66 with S3-805 (home). Talk about night and day! > is as stable as a rock. I haven't managed to crash it *once* while doing > normal Unix things. The only time it locked up on me was when I was playing The only time my machine crashes is when the power goes out. I haven't sprung for a UPS yet :-( > with Dosemu (word of warning: don't try bringing up Jetfighter II under it. > :-). I'm posting this from my Linux box. No problems. Most things > compile right out of the box. A few things (BSD things, in particular) > need a little coaxing, but it's not bad. Not bad at all. > > I *love* Linux. The people who have put the time and effort into it have > done an *incredible* job. There's no way I could repay them. The tiny > things I've contributed are not nearly enough. I second the motion! - Larry Doolittle doolittle@cebaf.gov Get a Real OS. Get Linux.
From: ajee@cse.ucsc.edu (Alvin Jee ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: FrameMaker for NS/FIP Date: 7 Aug 1993 23:18:27 GMT Organization: University of California at Santa Cruz Sender: ajee@cad023 (Alvin Jee ) Distribution: world Message-ID: <241d83$pkk@ornews.intel.com> References: <189@boschrt.rt.bosch.de.bosch.de> <23u7ieINN8ah@gap.caltech.edu> In article <23u7ieINN8ah@gap.caltech.edu>, ernest@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu (Ernest Prabhakar) writes: |> Is there any chance of some 'white knight' taking it over, as |> RightBrain did with Adobe Illustrator? I'm sure there are a couple |> small NeXT shops that would love the prestige of Frame and have the |> expertise and resources and market for doing a 'clean' FrameMaker port? ... chomp ... |> Does anyone know if Frame is considering anything like this, or what it |> would involve for them to do so? After all, we don't care who sells it |> to us, as long as we can get it! Funny you should ask that. I called Frame and asked them the same thing. I spoke with one of the MS Windows developers about having contractors work on the GUI, but they didn't seem interested in doing that at all. They want to keep all development work in-house. It seems that the biggest problem for them is resources. They'd like to port to a lot of platforms and become _the_ DTP app for virtually every machine out there, but they don't have the resources for that right now. Alvin Jee alvin@cse.ucsc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: hschulz@rzdspc12.informatik.uni-hamburg.de (Heiko Schulz) Subject: Re: NeXTTeX_update: doesn't work ! Message-ID: <hschulz.744907430@rzdspc12> Sender: news@informatik.uni-hamburg.de (Mr. News) Organization: University of Hamburg, Germany References: <1993Aug5.162053.21001@ifi.unizh.ch> Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1993 14:43:50 GMT kluge@avalon.physik.unizh.ch (Daniel G. Kluge) writes: >I just downloaded NeXTTeX_Update.tar.Z and installed the new inputs and >binaries, as described in the README-File, but when I tried to recompile >the .fmt files I got an error > >vis-next# initex plain >! tex.pool doesn't match; tangle me again. Please be more precise, I opened the package in Installer and everything worked just fine. (Well, except linking virtex to latex, tex, slitex, because they already existed :-) >- daniel Heiko Schulz EMail> hschulz@informatik.uni-hamburg.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,alt.fan.bill-gates,comp.os.linux From: thayne@unislc.slc.unisys.com (Thayne Forbes) Subject: Re: From your friends at UNIXWorld References: <242ulc$io@paperboy.ids.net> Message-ID: <1993Aug9.135726.26895@unislc.slc.unisys.com> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,alt.fan.bill-gates,comp.os.linux Organization: HomeVax Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1993 13:57:26 GMT green@ids.net wrote: : In article <1993Aug4.070852.2033@sol.cs.wmich.edu> meshkin@sol.cs.wmich.edu (Parental Advisory) writes: : >Awwwww... the good old ORANGE wall was more fun! The gray one can be : >mistaken for tiles, or brick mortar... but the orange ones were guarenteed : >to catch the eyes (and lunch) of anyone walking in! : > : >Hmmmm.... maybe the size of the documentation and the "ease-of-use" for an : >operating system are inversely proportional? <poke, poke, grin, sorry!> : Perhaps if you're like some of us, you have a grey-orange wall :-) : A real sickly sight. Goes great with the soda stain on the floor :-) Naugh, Nothing beats the massive Black Wall of Intimidation (tm) that comes with your Unisys box. Nothing says depression quite like a wall of black slip cases with red writing. Well, maybe nothing except the thought that I am back here fixing it 4 years after it first shipped :-) Hey, that's funny stuff. I crack myself up sometimes.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: peter@corsica (Peter Eisch) Subject: Re: Edit Message-ID: <CBI0GD.Avq@news2.cis.umn.edu> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Sender: news@news2.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: University of Minnesota Hospital and Clinic, Labratory Information Services References: <1993Aug9.061411.2738@ToTSySSoft.com> Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1993 15:24:21 GMT openfile thefile:line an example: openfile /etc/rc:47 peter Richard Jacoby (rick@TotSysSoft.com) wrote: : Does anyone know if there is a way to start Edit with a spesified line : selected, from the shell. : I mean somthing like this : localhost> Edit -l80 : Of courst that doesn't work. : Rick -- Carpe Diem? peter@tahiti.umhc.umn.edu (Peter Eisch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dkk@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (david.k.kallman) Subject: Re: DateBook Organization: AT&T Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1993 15:02:45 GMT Message-ID: <CBHz4n.6I9@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> References: <CBAqq8.G6s@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> Folks, I received a copy from Tom Marchioro. Thanks Tom. Dave Kallman P.S.: It was actually Date I was looking for. -- ---- Dave Kallman, AT&T, 480 Red Hill Rd., Middletown, NJ 07748 d_k_kallman@att.com, (908)615-2989, fax: (908)615-2507
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: raf@shell.portal.com (Man Wei Tam) Subject: Re: ~~~3DKIT~~~ please HELP!!!!!!! Message-ID: <CBI3Lv.EJC@unix.portal.com> Keywords: 3D help Sender: news@unix.portal.com Organization: Portal Communications Company -- 408/973-9111 (voice) 408/973-8091 (data) References: <1993Aug4.204649.1691@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1993 16:39:29 GMT In article <1993Aug4.204649.1691@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> hess@cs.UAlberta.CA (Hess Andy Thomas) writes: > > I am experimenting with the 3Dkit classes and my problem is that > when I attempt to do photoReal rendering the panel pops up and asks > to render on "localhost" (I guess this is the default?). However since > my machine is not named "localhost" it does not render anything. > Reading through the bugs report in ShaderInspector.app the author > admits that he does not know of any other way to solve this problem on > a non-networked(solo) NeXT except to rename your machine "localhost". > Go into /NextDeveloper/Demos and run RenderManager.app - add a host, call it whatever your machine is called and then (save - I think) and quit. This will add your local machine as a RenderMan renderer. Then, the rendering panel when it pops up in future will have your machine listed, as well as 'localhost'. Click on yours, and away you go. Let me know how you get on, Brian Leake.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: PRESS RELEASE: MircoPhone Pro Message-ID: <1993Aug8.151239.70906@cc.usu.edu> From: jgalt@patience.com (John Galt) Date: 8 Aug 93 15:12:37 MDT References: <31947@news.next.com> Distribution: usa In article <31947@news.next.com> writes: > FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE > [Binaries posted in group: comp.sys.next.misc] > > - Alice Hey guys, *please* post a PGP public key, quick - there are things you should be made aware of.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Scott Byer <byer@mv.us.adobe.com> Subject: Re: Adobe Illustrator on Black NeXTSTEP Message-ID: <1993Aug9.183628.16670@adobe.com> Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS) Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated References: <austinCBGDqG.M2n@netcom.com> Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1993 18:36:28 GMT Tony Austin writes > I am concerned that Adobe has handed Illustrator over to RIGHT > BRAIN, which is a very fine company with good products, for I > feel that the illustrator program will lose the giant machine of > Adobe backing it up. Actually, this should be considered nothing but good news. RightBrain has the skill and incentive to give Illustrator the attention it deserves. I suspect that with Glenn at the helm of Illustrator for NEXTSTEP, you'll begin seeing the benefits of the NeXT development environment, and that Illustrator on NeXT may keep up with the Mac version far better than it has previously. -- Scott Byer NeXTMail: byer@mv.us.adobe.com Adobe Systems Incorporated These are *my* opinions, and 1585 Charleston Road, P.O. Box 7900 do not necessarily reflect Mountain View, CA 94039-7900 the opinions of my employer. ---------------------------------------------------------------------
From: jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Joseph W Reiss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Looking for NeXT .snd->.wav converter/translator Date: 9 Aug 1993 20:56:01 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Distribution: usa Message-ID: <246dl1$11e@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> References: <1993Aug5.175222.14458@selway.umt.edu> Jdc@selway.umt.edu (John-David Childs) wrote... >Is there a NeXT program that can convert .snd->.wav files? Can this program >play .wav files? What other features does it support. Looking primarily >for pd/shareware, but send any info. Thanks. I'm more interested in the other direction. Are there any PD/Shareware .wav->.snd convertors available? I've found several archives of Star Wars .wavs, and I'd love to hear them on my NeXT! Joe -- __________ | NeXTMail accepted, but not preferred | |___) | """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" \_/OE | \EISS | Dammit, Jim. I'm a doctor, not a repository of witty `---- | remarks. Face it. Wit's dead, Jim.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,alt.fan.bill-gates,comp.os.linux From: bsa@kf8nh.wariat.org (Brandon S. Allbery) Subject: Re: From your friends at UNIXWorld References: <242ulc$io@paperboy.ids.net> <1993Aug9.135726.26895@unislc.slc.unisys.com> Organization: Brandon's Linux box and AmPR node, Mentor, OH Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1993 23:49:45 GMT Message-ID: <1993Aug9.234945.6386@kf8nh.wariat.org> In article <1993Aug9.135726.26895@unislc.slc.unisys.com> thayne@unislc.slc.unisys.com (Thayne Forbes) writes: >Naugh, Nothing beats the massive Black Wall of Intimidation (tm) that >comes with your Unisys box. Nothing says depression quite like a wall >of black slip cases with red writing. Well, maybe nothing except the Don't tell me... "DON'T PANIC", right? ;-} ++Brandon -- Brandon S. Allbery kf8nh@kf8nh.ampr.org bsa@kf8nh.wariat.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: haker@whitewater.chem.wisc.edu (M Haker) Subject: Slip/Kermit for NS-intel Message-ID: <1993Aug9.220856.11638@pslu1.psl.wisc.edu> Sender: news@pslu1.psl.wisc.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Physical Sciences Lab, UW-Madison Date: Mon, 9 Aug 93 22:08:56 GMT I had read some posts a couple weeks ago that mamakos was close to releasing a FAT version of slip. Has anyone heard if it's available yet? In the meantime, I'm trying to get kermit working on one of our NS/I machines. I've had problems which I believe to be related to a bad cable. Is the serial driver working at all or am I completely spinning my wheels trying to get a modem working on this machine? Michael Haker University of Wisconsin - Madison haker@whitewater.chem.wisc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: royce@splunge.uucp (Royce Howland) Subject: Re: FrameMaker for NS/FIP Message-ID: <1993Aug8.161818.17988@splunge.uucp> Organization: Ashley, Howland & Wood References: <189@boschrt.rt.bosch.de.bosch.de> <23u7ieINN8ah@gap.caltech.edu> Date: Sun, 8 Aug 1993 16:18:18 GMT ernest@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu (Ernest Prabhakar) writes: >In article <189@boschrt.rt.bosch.de.bosch.de> >kschulz@iva.k8.rt.bosch.de (Kay Schulz K8/IVA Tel. ++49-7121-35-1341) >writes: >> Frame says they are not willing to port it to NSI... >> A lot of people in the NeXT surroundings wrote them emails (me , too) >> but the answer was, that FrameMaker for NeXT was a fast an dirty >> hack and they don't know if they can and want port it. >Is there any chance of some 'white knight' taking it over, as >RightBrain did with Adobe Illustrator? I'm sure there are a couple >small NeXT shops that would love the prestige of Frame and have the >expertise and resources and market for doing a 'clean' FrameMaker port? >In fact, I remember it being a fairly common practice at one point for >companies to subcontract out specialized ports like that - although it >usually did not include getting long-term licensing and distribution >rights. >Does anyone know if Frame is considering anything like this, or what it >would involve for them to do so? After all, we don't care who sells it >to us, as long as we can get it! If I'm not mistaken, I believe there's a precident for this sort of deal with Frame already. It is my impression that, years ago, Data General licensed and carried out the port of FrameMaker to its AViiON workstation line as a way to get a premier app ported to their new system. -- Royce Howland, DKW Systems Corp. | "And since OS/2 2.0 is a 32-bit Everything is IMHO | operating system, programs are royce@splunge.uucp (NeXTMail OK) | easier to write and run faster, or kakwa!atlantis!splunge!royce | too." -ad for OS/2 2.0
From: isbell@cats.ucsc.edu (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Slpitting large files to DOS disk Date: 10 Aug 1993 05:11:51 GMT Organization: Cubic Solutions - NeXT software development and consulting Message-ID: <247amnINN6ub@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> References: <23t76o$cun@news.mic.ucla.edu> <1993Aug8.103525.10111@nidat.sub.org> In article <1993Aug8.103525.10111@nidat.sub.org> Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) writes: >The other way (the one that came to my mind first): >uuencode the file (compressed tar would be fine), then cut it into pieces >of appropriate size and label them consecutively (by use of an editor, as >the result of uuencode is plain text). Now you can put it on DOS >floppies. On the SCO UNIX you just proceed in reverse, namely paste >together with editor, uudecode, uncompress & tar xf (or tar xzf, if GNU >tar already made its way to SCO). Don't be too certain that SCO UNIX has compress. Last I heard, SCO UNIX, one of NeXTSTEP FIP's competitors, was based on SystemV.3.2 which wasn't blessed with compress when I worked in that archaic environment on a variety of UNIX minis a couple of years ago. pack was the best one could do. But I have no experience with SCO UNIX even though I live less than 10 miles from their headquarters, so maybe compress is available. If not, you could always build GNU compress as I had to do. Watch out for that 14-character filename length limit. I'd better stop before I get carried away expressing my love for SystemV UNIX :-) -- Art Isbell Cubic Solutions NeXT Registered Developer NEXTSTEP software development and consulting NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: (408)335-1154 USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: (408)335-2515
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mckelvey@fafnir.com (James W. McKelvey) Subject: Re: TopDraw busted under 3.1 (black) Message-ID: <CBJ7Kt.DC@fafnir.com> Sender: mckelvey@fafnir.com (James W. McKelvey) Organization: Fafnir Software, Saugus, CA, USA References: <24310q$pmb@news.doit.wisc.edu> Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1993 07:02:52 GMT In article <24310q$pmb@news.doit.wisc.edu> anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) writes: > > TopDraw seems to be busted under 3.1. Now *that's* > annoying! I have other options, but I also have a lot of > TopDraw images. Anyone else run into (and solved) this? > > -- TopDraw wants the old-style font organization. The 3.1 installation purged the contents of the /NextLibrary/afm, bitmap, and outline directories. Just add links as: ln -s /NextLibrary/Fonts/Ohlfs.font/Ohlfs.afm /NextLibrary/Fonts/afm/ ln -s /NextLibrary/Fonts/Ohlfs.font/Ohlfs.bepf /NextLibrary/Fonts/bitmap/ ln -s /NextLibrary/Fonts/Ohlfs.font/Ohlfs /NextLibrary/Fonts/outline/ and similarly for Courier and Helvetica. This will make TopDraw happy. The writing of a shell script to automate this is left as an exercise. -- The gentle journey jars to stop. The drifting dream is done. The long gone goblins loom ahead; the deadly, that we thought were dead, stand waiting, every one. -- Walt Kelly Jim McKelvey mckelvey@fafnir.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: cgallagh@otis.cheg.nd.edu (Christopher T. Galagher) Subject: Re: Adding a .sig to mail Message-ID: <1993Aug10.153517.2947@news.nd.edu> Sender: news@news.nd.edu (USENET News System) Organization: University of Notre Dame References: <1993Aug5.091956.12654@sics.se> Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1993 15:35:17 GMT In article <1993Aug5.091956.12654@sics.se> stefan@initiera.upnet.se (Stefan Kruger) writes: > is there a way to add a .signature file to NeXTmail messages ? > I have a .signature file in my home directory and it is only used when I send a reply or a post from NewsGrazer. Does NewsGrazer signal the Mail.app to use the the .signature file or does it copy the contents of the file into the new mail message? -- /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ Christopher T. Gallagher cgallagh@otis.cheg.nd.edu Dept. of Chemical Engineerning University of Notre Dame lab (219) ND1-4350 Notre Dame, IN 46637
From: alanlb@thor.cs.vt.edu (Alan L. Batongbacal) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: HELP! When did 3.1 Dev for 68k first ship? Message-ID: <4873@creatures.cs.vt.edu> Date: 10 Aug 93 17:42:56 GMT Sender: usenet@creatures.cs.vt.edu Organization: Virginia Tech Computer Science Dept., Blacksburg, VA Hi there! I'm trying to track down my missing copy of 3.1 Developer for 68k systems which NeXT shipped to me last June 26. However, another NeXT user told me that 3.1 Developer for 68k wasn't even shipping then! Is this true? -- alan l. batongbacal
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: gerben@rna.indiv.nluug.nl Subject: SoftPC problem with serial port and root access. Message-ID: <1993Aug10.172614.1170@rna.indiv.nluug.nl> Sender: gerben@rna.indiv.nluug.nl (Gerben Wierda) Organization: G.R.O.S.S. Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1993 17:26:14 GMT Hello, world! I am running SoftPC 2.05. I'd like to use a PC program to communicate with my modem. However, this modem is not on /dev/ttya, nor on /dev/ttyb, but on /dev/cum (it's the mix data modem that runs on the DSP chip). When I try to set this value in preferences, I get: Device needed by comms adapter could not be accessed - check permissions. 'Com1' = '/dev/cum' But the permissions of /dev/ttya are the same as for /dev/cum: crw-rw-rw. I tried changing permissions to 777, but that did not help either. So I tried running SoftPC as root. But then I get "illegal instruction encountered" at startup time. I seem to be unable to run SOftPC 2.05 as root. I have three questions: Does someone know what I can do to use /dev/cum as serial device COM2? Are there known problems when running as root? Are these problems also in 3.0? (which has been ordered already, so I'll find out sooner or later). Thanks in advance for your help. -- Gerben Wierda [NeRD:7539] gerben@rna.indiv.nluug.nl "If you don't know where you are going, any road will take you there." From the Talmud(?), rephrased in Lewis Carroll, "Alice in Wonderland".
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: harryt@world.std.com (Harry D Tirrell) Subject: Ingres on Black HW Message-ID: <CBK5JH.ADy@world.std.com> Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1993 19:16:28 GMT Just wondering if anyone has ever ported University Ingres to NeXT harry -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- harryt@world.std.com All comments are my own and tirrellh@novavax.nova.edu bare no relationship to any
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software From: chris@iastate.edu (Chris Wong) Subject: How to install Stuart 2.4? Message-ID: <chris.745013161@du139-206.cc.iastate.edu> Keywords: stuart,nextstep,shell Sender: news@news.iastate.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1993 20:06:01 GMT Just how on the earth can I install Stuart shell on NeXTSTEP 3.1/FIP? Thanks for the help. Chris. -- Chris Wong | "Hardware is supposed to serve Software." chris@iastate.edu | Computer Engineering & Computer Science twba8@isuvax.iastate.edu | Iowa State University of Science and Technology
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jdeclari@is.rpslmc.edu (John-William DeClaris) Subject: Development Tools Message-ID: <1993Aug10.205157.2114@rpslmc.edu> Sender: news@rpslmc.edu Organization: Rush-Presbyterian-St. Luke's Medical Center Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1993 20:51:57 GMT I am having some problems installing the Developer Tools on my machine. Not all of the files get installed and after I have copied whatever else I could find, I still get this error. cc -g -O -Wall -I./sym -arch m68k -ObjC -sectcreate __ICON __header DoctorMate.iconheader -segprot __ICON r r -sectcreate __ICON app Stethoscope.tiff -o DoctorMate.app/DoctorMate m68k_obj/DoctorMate_main.o -lMedia_s -lNeXT_s ld: Can't locate file for: -lcrt0.o *** Exit 1 Stop. *** Exit 1 Stop. Does anyone know what this files is, where it is, and where I need to place it. I have not written a line of code, just used the Dev Tools, and the app worked while I was at the Dev Camp Class, but not here. Please e-mail your answers to me at jdeclari@is.rpslmc.edu Both my NeXT and I thank you. -- John-William DeClaris All comments made by me are mine and not reflective of RUSH or anyone else... even any spelling errors I most likely made. Live each day as if it were your last, because someday it will be.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: chris@iastate.edu (Chris Wong) Subject: How to install Stuart 2.4 under NS/fip Message-ID: <chris.745014649@du139-206.cc.iastate.edu> Keywords: stuart,nextstep,shell Sender: news@news.iastate.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1993 20:30:49 GMT The subject said it all. -- Chris Wong | "Hardware is supposed to serve Software." chris@iastate.edu | Computer Engineering & Computer Science twba8@isuvax.iastate.edu | Iowa State University of Science and Technology
From: jmeacham@sun1.clark.net (James D. Meacham) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Bibliography Software? Date: 11 Aug 1993 11:57:18 -0400 Organization: Clark Internet Services, Inc. Message-ID: <24b4su$jp0@sun1.clark.net> Does anyone know of any bibliographic software for the NeXT? I've tried using addbib, etc, but find it much too difficult to wrap my graphically oriented brain around. A NeXT-specific solution would be great, but at this point I'd be willing to settle for a unix terminal solution, as well. Any ideas? Peace, James
From: t9116ts@tech.mis.cfc.com (Todd Swan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: rocks Date: 11 Aug 1993 11:14:05 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9308111541.AA20274@tech.mis.cfc.com> In comp.sys.next.software article <1993Jul31.010326.24352@cs.yale.edu> nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) wrote: > In article <1993Jul30.041441.710@parsec.mixcom.com> alberto@parsec.mixcom.com > (Alberto Ricart) writes: > > (Complaints about Rocks_1.8fat.pkg requiring gunzip and that the > > installation scripts were "assumed" that gunzip lived in /usr/bin...) > > > As previously mentioned Rocks_1.8fat was distributed fat, and thus > > only intended for machines running 3.1 or above. All 3.1 or above > > systems DO have gunzip in the directory specified by the script. > > <deleted> > > > What do you think? > > I think you should *document* these facts more clearly in the readme > file that resides with the archive file. Mine certainly doesn't > indicate I was SOL if I didn't have a 3.1 system... Here's a hint. If the word 'fat' appears in the filename of something, you can pretty much bet the farm that it contains a fat binary and needs 3.1. This seems like common sense... (Major :-)'s) Todd -- Todd M. Swan - tms@cfc.com - Chrysler Financial, Centerline, MI "Life is a diamond we turn into dust..." - Rush
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: tlm@tantalus.scl.ameslab.gov (Tom Marchioro) Subject: Re: Bibliography Software? Message-ID: <CBLt78.MFx@news.iastate.edu> Sender: news@news.iastate.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA References: <24b4su$jp0@sun1.clark.net> Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1993 16:45:07 GMT James D. Meacham writes [] []Does anyone know of any bibliographic software for the NeXT? I've tried []using addbib, etc, but find it much too difficult to wrap my graphically []oriented brain around. A NeXT-specific solution would be great, but at []this point I'd be willing to settle for a unix terminal solution, as well. [] Any ideas? Peace, [] []James Well.....if I can ever find the time to get through my Garfinkle and Mahoney, this is at the top of my own "make a NeXTstep application" list. I want to make a program which generates a simple flat file bibliographic database which can then be output in one of several forms. In particular, for my work I want it to output in BibTeX format. Dataphile would probably be fine for this, and I'd spring for it, but as of this time Dataphile doesn't support BibTeX. Whether or not it supports the format you need I don't know, since you don't mention specifics. I'm seriously hoping to get to this programming project in the early fall (but, in April I was hoping to get to it this summer, got slowed down a bit by various things, including the flood of '93 :) If anyone else knows of something good in this regard I'd love to hear about it as well. Maybe Dataphile will finally add BibTeX support? how about it Andrew? Tom -- Dr. Thomas L. Marchioro II Two-wheeled theoretical physicist Center for Physical and Computational Mathematics 515-294-6629 Ames Laboratory 515-233-1216 (home) Ames, Iowa 50011 tlm@iastate.edu
From: rawyatt@phakt.usc.edu (Robert Alexander Wyatt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Looking for two apps...OpenSesame...MsgCntr... Date: 11 Aug 1993 10:40:43 -0700 Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA Sender: rawyatt@phakt.usc.edu Distribution: world Message-ID: <24baur$894@phakt.usc.edu> I am looking for two NEXTSTEP apps...I believe they are freeware... Open is called OpenSesame...It allows a user to run an application as root. The other is called MessageCenter...It is a simple messaging application that allows a message to be sent from one host to another... If anyone has either of these apps, please NeXTmail me copies to: rwyatt@ata.com Please do not respond to my posting address, as I cannot receive NeXTmail here (at least not without a hassle...) Thank you very much!!! -Rob rwyatt@ata.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,alt.fan.bill-gates From: zwang@vis.toronto.edu (Zhengyan Wang) Subject: Help with ghostscript screen Message-ID: <93Aug11.125419edt.16167@orasis.vis.toronto.edu> Summary: backgroud black for gs screen Keywords: gs backgroud Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Toronto References: <1993Jul30.151758.10206@unislc.slc.unisys.com> <23slvt$eim@nigel.msen.com> Distribution: comp.os.linux Date: 11 Aug 93 16:53:58 GMT Hi can anyone tell me how to turn the backgroud of the gs screen into black? I am using linux on a 486. In xdvi you can do xdvi -rv, but for gs I don't know how to get that. thanks in advance zw
From: Hal.Varian@umich.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Bibliography Software? Date: 11 Aug 1993 17:56:40 GMT Organization: University of Michigan - College of Literature, Science, and TheArts Distribution: world Message-ID: <24bbso$auh@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu> References: <24b4su$jp0@sun1.clark.net> In article <24b4su$jp0@sun1.clark.net> jmeacham@sun1.clark.net (James D. Meacham) writes: > > Does anyone know of any bibliographic software for the NeXT? I've tried > using addbib, etc, but find it much too difficult to wrap my graphically > oriented brain around. A NeXT-specific solution would be great, but at > this point I'd be willing to settle for a unix terminal solution, as well. > Any ideas? Peace, Check out: cerberus.cor.epa.gov anonymous FTP area. Tools to manipulate bibliographies. See biblio-README. Dana Jacobsen (jacobsd@cs.orst.edu) I used to use a set of tools called btt that serve as a terminal front end for bibtex. Now I've switched to using the bibtex mode for emacs which is fine (if you are an emacs person). I started to hack together a little NeXTstep frontend for btt, but I never finished it. This would be a nice software project for someone who wants to learn NeXTstep. -- Hal.Varian@umich.edu Hal Varian voice: 313-764-2364 Dept of Economics fax: 313-764-2364 Univ of Michigan Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1220
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dal@netcom.com (Dana Andre Letendre) Subject: Zmodem binaries Message-ID: <dalCBLw8C.H3I@netcom.com> Summary: Looking for Zmodem Binaries Keywords: zmodem Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1993 17:50:35 GMT I'm looking for the programs sz and rz for the Next. Can someone tell me where to find them? Thanks, Dana Letendre
From: jbrierre@telenet.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: FrameMaker for NS/FIP Summary: a NEW Frame would be nice! Message-ID: <1991@telenet.telenet.com> Date: 11 Aug 93 18:30:02 GMT References: <23qrhs$2m6@disuns2.epfl.ch> <189@boschrt.rt.bosch.de.bosch.de> Sender: news@telenet.com >Frame says they are not willing to port it to NSI... >A lot of people in the NeXT surroundings wrote them emails (me , too) >but the answer was, that FrameMaker for NeXT was a fast an dirty hack and >they don't know if they can and want port it. quite right! it is a hack and it shows. But they can right that if/when they feel the need to port to NS/FIP, well at least they should. Frame could be a nice platform if Frame Corp got off of its SunOS mind set and put out a decent product (as opposed to Frame3.1X) ------- Jacques Brierre Alcatel Data Networks 703-689-6511 rainbow!jbrierre@telenet.com
From: brinkley@synapse.biostr.washington.edu (Jim Brinkley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Bibliography Software? Date: 11 Aug 1993 19:27:09 GMT Organization: University of Washington Message-ID: <24bh6d$5ss@news.u.washington.edu> References: <24b4su$jp0@sun1.clark.net> In article <24b4su$jp0@sun1.clark.net> jmeacham@sun1.clark.net (James D. Meacham) writes: Does anyone know of any bibliographic software for the NeXT? I've tried using addbib, etc, but find it much too difficult to wrap my graphically oriented brain around. A NeXT-specific solution would be great, but at this point I'd be willing to settle for a unix terminal solution, as well. Any ideas? Peace, James Awhile ago I wrote a NeXTStep front end for the unix utilities lookbib and addbib which I've used for accessing bibtex bibliography files. I called it Pfind because it allows you to display all paragraphs in a set of files that contain search words you specify, where a paragraph is delineated by a blank line. Its got a few problems - the main being that it can't handle very long paragraphs. I think there is some limit in lookbib, which might be changed if I knew more about lookbib. But it seems to work fine for small paragraphs (ie bibtex entries without an abstract). Its available on sonata.cc.purdue.edu:next/1.0-release/source/Pfind.tar.Z. If you use it and make any improvements please let me know. I'm also thinking about writing a bibliography system that is more like Endnote or Procite, but if someone else does it first that would be great. Jim Brinkley
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mike@lorax.com (Mike Ferris) Subject: Re: NewsGrazer Message-ID: <CBLxII.5Fw@lorax.com> Sender: mike@lorax.com (Mike Ferris) Organization: Stultus Enterprises References: <241stc$rch@news.acns.nwu.edu> Distribution: na Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1993 18:18:17 GMT I don't think any of the answers so far understood the full situation. If you are connecting nntp-wise over a SLIP connection, the active file is not on your machine. Therefore, you can't really edit out the groups you don't want. Also, regardless of the groups in your .newsrc (the ones you're subscribed to), the whole active file is always scanned on startup. I don't think you can get around the problem without reconfiguring the way you get news. ____________________________________________________________ Mike Ferris You can't depend on your eyes mike@lorax.com when your imagination is out of Rubicon Software focus. (510) 652-2039 -Mark Twain
From: iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NewsBase Date: 11 Aug 1993 20:13:09 GMT Organization: UCLA, Anderson Graduate School Of Management Message-ID: <24bjsl$1tn@news.mic.ucla.edu> I am a bit surprised that noone is trying to get NewsBase to cleanly work/compile under NS 3.1, given all the heated discussion that NG-Pro was prized so highly. Here is an app, 99% finished, under the Gnu license. We do need alternatives under NS/FIP. /ivo welch
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: moose@svcdudes.com Subject: Re: Need suggestions for NS/FIP software (LONG) Message-ID: <1993Aug9.174430.25657@svcdudes.com> Sender: news@svcdudes.com Organization: Software Ventures, Inc. References: <70115@mimsy.umd.edu> Distribution: na Date: Mon, 9 Aug 93 17:44:30 GMT In article <70115@mimsy.umd.edu> alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore) writes: > fischedj@ NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (David J. Fischer) writes: > > Telecommunications: Is there is anything to utilize a modem? This > >doesn't convcern me much now, but I know others who want this support as soon > >as they get NS/FIP installed. I have heard of SLiPCommander (sp?), but beyond > >that I am completely ignorant on the topic. I'm happy to say that MicroPhone fip seems to be working with the latest serial drivers. I think that by the end of the week, the upgrade will be ready. NeXT has said that 3.2 will ship soon, so it looks like you can get MicroPhone fip within a month. -- Michael Rutman | moose@svcdudes.com Cubist | makes me a NeXT programmer Software Ventures | maker of MicroPhone Pro #include <std.disclaimer> | really offensive political statement
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: moose@svcdudes.com Subject: Re: Larger Terminal in MicroPhone Pro? Message-ID: <1993Aug9.175743.25812@svcdudes.com> Sender: news@svcdudes.com Organization: Software Ventures, Inc. References: <chris.744615820@vincent2.iastate.edu> Distribution: na Date: Mon, 9 Aug 93 17:57:43 GMT In article <chris.744615820@vincent2.iastate.edu> chris@iastate.edu (Chris Wong) writes: > In <1993Jul31.024445.28433@svcdudes.com> moose@svcdudes.com writes: > > > What kinds of modems are supported under MicroPhone Pro and NS/FIP? > Is Hayes compatible modem supported? > Since MicroPhone uses modifyable modem drivers, we support all modems. We ship with most modems, and any modem we don't have already, we can quickly create a modem driver for that modem. -- Michael Rutman | moose@svcdudes.com Cubist | makes me a NeXT programmer Software Ventures | maker of MicroPhone Pro #include <std.disclaimer> | really offensive political statement
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: farah@neuma (Joe Farah) Subject: X-Windows on the Next Black Hardware - What do you recommend Organization: Control Data Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1993 21:02:37 GMT Message-ID: <CBM54E.3CG@raistlin.udev.cdc.com> Sender: usenet@raistlin.udev.cdc.com (News poster) We have currently one Nextstation, which could increase in numbers if we find a quick and easy (and inexpensive) way to run X on the Next. Essentially, we need software which runs the server so that we can display remotely executed X programs on the Next. Ideally, we would also like to compile those programs so that they run on the Next in Motif style (even if its not the best), but this is a secondary concern. Does anyone have expertise as to the best Public Domain/Shareware software for: (1) Running an X-server on the NextStation (2) An X development environment so that X programs can run (ie. the clients) on the NextStation If the status of PD/Shareware software is pre-mature in this area, what are the best Commercial Offerings? Thanks. Please respond to: farah@neuma1.can.cdc.com Joe Farah Neuma Technology Corporation
From: fischedj@ NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (David J. Fischer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Where is source for BackSpace v3.0? Date: 11 Aug 1993 22:11:38 GMT Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology Message-ID: <24bqqq$a0v@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu> I am looking for the source code to BackSpace version 3.0. I hope to make it run on my NS/FIP machine (once I get my machine...). Is the code at any of the archives (sonata, cs.orst, nova)? -- David J. Fischer : fischedj@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu "What's more important, the plays of Shakespeare or the quill he used to write them down? If he'd used a mission critical custom quill with built-in spell checker, would his plays have been any better? " -- Dave Griffiths
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: clloyd@gleap (Charles C. Lloyd) Subject: Re: Need suggestions for NS/FIP software (LONG) Message-ID: <1993Aug11.222947.9873@gleap.sccsi.com> Sender: clloyd@gleap.sccsi.com Organization: GiantLeap Software References: <1993Aug9.174430.25657@svcdudes.com> Distribution: na Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1993 22:29:47 GMT moose@svcdudes.com writes >I'm happy to say that MicroPhone fip seems to be working with the latest serial >drivers. I think that by the end of the week, the upgrade will be ready. NeXT >has said that 3.2 will ship soon, so it looks like you can get MicroPhone fip >within a month. > Did I miss something? Did NeXT release an update to their serial drivers? This is the second subtle reference I've seen to this recently. Charles. -- Charles Lloyd clloyd@GLeap.sccsi.com GiantLeap Software (713) 292-2442 or 363-0887 (Hou) (713) 363-0936 (fax)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: vikram@viman.com (Vikram Duvvoori) Subject: Re: Slpitting large files to DOS disk Message-ID: <1993Aug11.212313.1366@viman.com> Keywords: file transfer, split, compress, SCO Sender: vikram@viman.com Organization: Viman Software, Santa Cruz, California References: <247amnINN6ub@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1993 21:23:13 GMT In article <247amnINN6ub@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> isbell@cats.ucsc.edu (Art Isbell) writes: > > > Don't be too certain that SCO UNIX has compress. Last I heard, SCO UNIX, one > of NeXTSTEP FIP's competitors, was based on SystemV.3.2 which wasn't blessed > with compress when I worked in that archaic environment on a variety of UNIX > minis a couple of years ago. pack was the best one could do. But I have no > experience with SCO UNIX even though I live less than 10 miles from their > headquarters, so maybe compress is available. If not, you could always build > GNU compress as I had to do. Watch out for that 14-character filename length > limit. I'd better stop before I get carried away expressing my love for > SystemV UNIX :-) > -- > > Art Isbell Cubic Solutions SCO and ODT have had compress for a while. We routinely transfer files between SCO, NEXTSTEP and 20 other hardware/OS platforms. Combinations of uuencode, uudecode, tar, compress, and split (or binary split) should let you transfer files between any systems. For help on any combination of systems drop me an email note. -- ________________________________________________________________ Vikram Duvvoori (vikram@viman.com) Viman Software , CA Developers of LicenseServ - The affordable network license manager 800-827-4590 (Toll Free); 408-459-0678 ; 408-458-2862 (Fax)
From: martin@hagi.noguchi.riec.tohoku.ac.jp (martin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NS 3.0-J Date: 12 Aug 93 12:26:46 Organization: Shiratori Lab., Tohoku Univ., Sendai, Japan Distribution: comp Message-ID: <MARTIN.93Aug12122646@hagi.noguchi.riec.tohoku.ac.jp> Hello everybody, Here's another question concerning NS-J 3.0: If I install NS-J 3.0, will all menues be in Japanese, i.e. also the Workspace Managers menues etc.? Will the menues change to English if I change the pre- ferred language to English with the Preferences program? I 'd be happy if somebody who used NS 3.x-J could write me about his or her experiences. Thanks for your kind efforts, Martin -- ************************************************************************* //\/ phone: +81-22-227-6200 ext.341 // o Martin Moser fax: +81-22-263-9848 email: martin@noguchi.riec.tohoku.ac.jp 980 Aoba-ku, 2-1-1 Katahira, Tohoku University, Shiratori Lab., Japan *************************************************************************
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Mail.app won't send NextMail anymore! Date: 12 Aug 1993 03:12:37 -0400 Organization: Digital Fix Development Distribution: world Message-ID: <24cqh5$5b6@digifix.digifix.com> In the past couple of days, all of a sudden my Mail.app doesn't seem to want to send NextMail to anyone. The bodies of the messages are empty. What's REALLY strange is that I can send it to myself, or to another account I have on an SCO machine, and it has the body there, uuencoded and all. Has anyone else seen this? The only thing I can recall changing was a couple of NetInfo settings for security stuff, as outlined in the SysAdmin docs. Any help???? Thanks Scott -- - Scott Anguish - sanguish@digifix.com (NextMail) next-announce@digifix.com (comp.sys.next.announce submissions)
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NS 3.0-J Date: 12 Aug 1993 08:56:18 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Message-ID: <24d0ji$1bi@agate.berkeley.edu> References: <MARTIN.93Aug12122646@hagi.noguchi.riec.tohoku.ac.jp> In article <MARTIN.93Aug12122646@hagi.noguchi.riec.tohoku.ac.jp> >martin@hagi.noguchi.riec.tohoku.ac.jp (martin) writes: >Here's another question concerning NS-J 3.0: If I install NS-J 3.0, >will all menues be in Japanese, i.e. also the Workspace Managers >menues etc.? Will the menues change to English if I change the pre- >ferred language to English with the Preferences program? I 'd be >happy if somebody who used NS 3.x-J could write me about his or her >experiences. I have not used NS 3.0J, but I have tried NS 2.1J. And I believe this aspect of GUI hasn't changed, so: On NS-J, the language for menus and other parts of GUI will be English if you set language Preference to English. So, on the same system, one user can have Japanese menus and alert messages while another can see them in English. Of course, even if your menus are in English, you can still create and edit documents in Japanese. Not only language preferences can be specified for each user, but NS-J in fact allows you to specify preferred lanugage for each application for each user. So, you can set the system up for yourself so that most applications use English menus and alerts while only a few apps such as ClareFrontend app display them in Japanese. Other users can use an entirely different language choices for their applications. I think it's the most flexible system I have seen as far as language choices are concerned. -- Izumi Ohzawa [ $@Bg_78^=;(J ] USMail: University of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720 Telephone: (510) 642-6440 Fax: (510) 642-3323 Internet: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (NeXTMail OK)
From: hugh@ear.mit.edu (Hugh Secker-Walker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Automatically opened attachments in Mail.app Date: 12 Aug 93 09:34:51 Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology Message-ID: <HUGH.93Aug12093451@ear.mit.edu> This question has been bugging me for a while and I don't recall seeing it discussed recently; it's not in NeXTanswers. How do you place an attachment in a NeXTMail so that it is opened/executed automatically as soon as the piece of mail is selected in the header window? I've seen this feature used in a couple of newsletters; I select the mail in the header window and an .eps attachment is immediately interpreted, splashing graphics all over the screen. The attachment is not visible in the mail body. None of the combinations of modifier keys I've tried while dragging the attachment into the compose window has worked. What's the trick? Thanks. Hugh -- Hugh Secker-Walker hugh@mit.edu (NeXTmail welcome!) MIT, Research Lab of Electronics
From: shin@sgtp.apple.juice.or.jp (Sugou Shinichirou) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cancel <SHIN.93Aug13002226@sgtp.sgtp.apple.juice.or.jp> Message-ID: <SHIN.93Aug13002726@sgtp.sgtp.apple.juice.or.jp> Date: 12 Aug 93 15:27:26 GMT Control: cancel <SHIN.93Aug13002226@sgtp.sgtp.apple.juice.or.jp> Sender: shin@sgtp.esug.co.jp Distribution: comp Organization: SG Total Planning, Japan
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From: shin@esug.co.jp (Sugou Shinichirou) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cancel <SHIN.93Aug13005141@sgtp.esug.co.jp> Message-ID: <SHIN.93Aug13005513@sgtp.esug.co.jp> Date: 12 Aug 93 15:55:12 GMT Control: cancel <SHIN.93Aug13005141@sgtp.esug.co.jp> Sender: shin@sgtp.esug.co.jp Distribution: comp Organization: SG Total Planning, Japan
From: shin@esug.co.jp (Sugou Shinichirou) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: ANNOUNCEMENT: DataBag delivery is started Message-ID: <SHIN.93Aug13005857@sgtp.esug.co.jp> Date: 12 Aug 93 15:58:57 GMT Sender: shin@sgtp.esug.co.jp Distribution: comp Organization: SG Total Planning, Japan We, SGPT, happily announces that we have started to deliver Databag. About DataBag ============= Using NeXT computer for the daily work, you often come across information/data which you want to save for later use. In such a case, use DataBag instead of the ordinal NeXTSTEP SavePanel. DataBag is a Personal Data Archiver application, which has the following aspects: (1) DataBag manages your valuable data for you. With DataBag, you can collect data in one place. Collecting them in one place generates many merits. (2) What you have to do is only one thing. Transfer data to DataBag using NeXTSTEP data input operation like Cut&Paste, file dragging, or Services Menu etc.. And DataBag takes care of the somewhat tedious settlement which is commonly associated with data management. For example, you need not to worry about the file name for data, nor about the key definition for later data search. (3) With DataBag, you can save all the data types which NeXTSTEP officially offers. Saving Emacs buffer/region content is also possible. (4) For data search, DataBag uses Librarian. The filter service program, with which Librarian can recognize DataBag data-format, is included. Because Librarian has powerful indexing function, it enables incredible fast search even if the data storage becomes large quantities. (5) You can launch data resided on the DataBag window by double clicking. This feature reduces the necessity of WorkSpace. Requirement =========== DataBag requires NEXTSTEP 3.0 or more. NEXTSTEP 2.* is unsuitable. We are delivering Black hardware version, but if you request, White hardware (Intel) version is also available now. Price ===== US$XXX.XX. We don't offer the educational price. How to Get DataBag Demo Version =============================== We will place DataBag demo version in some ftp-site in a week or so. Besides ftp, we can send it by e-mail(NeXTMail). The e-mail size is about 700Kbyte. If you prefer snail mail to e-mail, sending it by a floppy is also available. Please let us know your address in the latter case. The demo version can save maximum 50 data. Because 50 data is somewhat large quantities for a normal NeXT user, we think that you can experience DataBag thoroughly. Complete on-line manual is included in the demo version. Our Address =========== SGTP Nishi-Shinjuku 3-111-4 Hasuda city, Saitama pref. Japan 349-01 voice: 81-48-769-9560 (We can't speak English. Japanese only!) fax: 81-48-769-5154 e-mail: info@esug.co.jp Any questions/requests are welcome. Thank you. -- Shin'ichirou Sugou (NeXTmail acceptable)
From: basil@japonica.cs.odu.edu (-{Pygmy Cats beware}-) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NS/Intel Install.FAQ? Date: 12 Aug 1993 16:05:25 GMT Organization: Old Dominion University, Norfolk, Va Message-ID: <24dpo5$2ad@xanth.cs.odu.edu> Is there a NS/Intel installation FAQ? Or something listing all the discussed/documented problems with NS/Intel? In particular, I'd like to know if the serial problem exists for connections via ethernet. I'm thinking that a way around the current serial situation would be to use a terminal server connected via ethernet to handle modems/slip and whatnot. ?? basil
From: Mark-Tarbell@suite.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: TopDraw busted under 3.1 (black) Date: 12 Aug 1993 16:46:02 GMT Organization: Suite Software Message-ID: <24ds4a$5rf@bilbo.suite.com> References: <24310q$pmb@news.doit.wisc.edu> In article <24310q$pmb@news.doit.wisc.edu> anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) writes: > > TopDraw seems to be busted under 3.1. Now *that's* > annoying! I have other options, but I also have a lot of > TopDraw images. Anyone else run into (and solved) this? > > -- It's not exactly TopDraw's fault... The installation of NS3.1 broke the font links between the various folders. All you need to do is relink them, and TopDraw, which is dependent on the NS1.0 font setup, will work. Under the xxx.font folders, there are .afm, .bepf, and outline files. Set the links up so these files can be accessed from Fonts/afm, /Fonts/bitmap, and /Fonts/outline, respectively. pDraw's fault... The installation of NS3.1 broke the font links between the various folders. All you need to do is relink them, and TopDraw, which is depende
From: Mark-Tarbell@suite.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: TopDraw busted under 3.1 (black) Date: 12 Aug 1993 16:46:11 GMT Organization: Suite Software Message-ID: <24ds4j$5rg@bilbo.suite.com> References: <24310q$pmb@news.doit.wisc.edu> In article <24310q$pmb@news.doit.wisc.edu> anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) writes: > > TopDraw seems to be busted under 3.1. Now *that's* > annoying! I have other options, but I also have a lot of > TopDraw images. Anyone else run into (and solved) this? > > -- It's not exactly TopDraw's fault... The installation of NS3.1 broke the font links between the various folders. All you need to do is relink them, and TopDraw, which is dependent on the NS1.0 font setup, will work. Under the xxx.font folders, there are .afm, .bepf, and outline files. Set the links up so these files can be accessed from Fonts/afm, /Fonts/bitmap, and /Fonts/outline, respectively. pDraw's fault... The installation of NS3.1 broke the font links between the various folders. All you need to do is relink them, and TopDraw, which is depende
From: Mark-Tarbell@suite.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: TopDraw busted under 3.1 (black) Date: 12 Aug 1993 16:58:53 GMT Organization: Suite Software Message-ID: <24dssd$64i@bilbo.suite.com> References: <24310q$pmb@news.doit.wisc.edu> Sorry about the corrupted posts... Our news server ran out of spool space. It wasn't TopDraw's fault, really!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Screen Calibration Message-ID: <1993Aug12.125610.71116@cc.usu.edu> From: hcole@tumbleweed.idec.sdl.usu.edu (Howard R. Cole) Date: 12 Aug 93 12:56:08 MDT Distribution: usa About two weeks ago someone posted that there was an application put on the archives called Calibrator.app which could be used to fine tune the screen colors. Where is it? I've looked through sonata and cs.orst with no luck. Any help appreciated. Howard Cole USU Space Dynamics hcole@tumbleweed.idec.sdl.usu.edu
From: ksh@prl.ufl.edu (Kevin S Ho) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,alt.fan.bill-gates,comp.os.linux Subject: Re: From your friends at UNIXWorld Date: 12 Aug 1993 21:41:16 GMT Organization: University of Florida Parallel Reasearch Lab. Distribution: world,happynet Message-ID: <24eddtINNk4b@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu> References: <1993Jul30.151758.10206@unislc.slc.unisys.com> <23slvt$eim@nigel.msen.com> <CBHG3y.2tH@frobozz.sccsi.com> In article <CBHG3y.2tH@frobozz.sccsi.com>, kevin@frobozz.sccsi.com (Kevin Brown) writes: |> In article <23slvt$eim@nigel.msen.com> jeffk@garnet.msen.com (Jeff Kopmanis) writes: |> >Thayne Forbes (thayne@unislc.slc.unisys.com) wrote: |> >: Wade Guthrie (wade@nb.rockwell.com) wrote: |> [...] |> >: : Man, what do you want from *FREE* software? |> >: : Linux has the disadvantage that it's TOO GOOD. It looks too much like |> >: : commercial software; so, when people see it, they get upset that it |> >: : doesn't look *more* like commercial software. Well, no one I have seen ever bitches about Linux'es capabilities. They go down in flames over "ease of use" (more later) |> >: |> >: Linux. Are you saying that I should pay for Linux before I can |> >: bitch, or are you saying that we should all make it worse to install? |> |> [Windoze Access 1.1 install horror story deleted] |> |> >Don't complain about SLS or MCC Linux installs. They may not be pretty, but |> >they work "as advertised" with few surprises. The most difficult thing for |> >me was to figure out how to correctly partition my hard drives to get |> >everything to work together. Well, that's a good point, but take a total idiot and tell him to install linux....... |> |> Yup. Linux is really great stuff. Highest quality stuff *I've* ever seen. I agree, if you're willing to put in a few minutes of work for every program (except ones with precomp-binaries), because you are usually *porting to linux* and having to put up with the mutantness of linux (SYSV with some BSD with some hell if Iknow) |> |> However, I also agree that if a user is having problems installing the |> software, then (to a point) the installation process could be better. It's |> a hard problem, though. One word: SLS |> |> >I've been running Linux since December 1992, and its been a real performer. |> >While Windoze and DOS have required the use of more and more powerful |> >hardware, Linux screams on my older 386. |> |> Microsloth doesn't know how to delete code, only how to add code. Code that |> is buggy and slow. EXACTLY |> |> >It literally has prolonged the |> >life of my machine. I don't use X, as I don't have quite the memory for it, |> >but if I got 8MB instead of 4, I'd be all set. ROTFL ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) I have 8 megs, I'm choking back the tears. Try running X, emacs, a compile or 2 and Xtank and watch it swap! |> |> 386 to a 33 MHz 486). Even so, Linux hauls, *especially* on a 486. And it |> is as stable as a rock. I haven't managed to crash it *once* while doing Me too, I haven't been able to crash linux, and I think it would take a few minutes of work even if I TRIED |> normal Unix things. The only time it locked up on me was when I was playing |> with Dosemu (word of warning: don't try bringing up Jetfighter II under it. |> :-). I'm posting this from my Linux box. No problems. Most things |> compile right out of the box. A few things (BSD things, in particular) |> need a little coaxing, but it's not bad. Not bad at all. Well, usually it's just symlinking some #includes in from /usr/include/linux, but tell a secretary to do that. Linux is for those who want power and are willing to pay in sweat |> |> >-Jeff. :) |> KsH (no sig yet)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: abell@netcom.com (Steven T. Abell) Subject: Converting PS to ASCII Message-ID: <abellCBo4Hq.MJK@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) Distribution: na Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1993 22:44:14 GMT I have a .ps file that prints ok, but is unreadable on the screen. It's also unreadable as text. Is there a program that strips all of the Postscript out of a .ps file, leaving only its text content? Steve abell@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,alt.fan.bill-gates,comp.os.linux From: jhenders@jonh.wimsey.bc.ca (John Henders) Subject: Re: From your friends at UNIXWorld References: <1993Jul30.151758.10206@unislc.slc.unisys.com> <23slvt$eim@nigel.msen.com> <CBHG3y.2tH@frobozz.sccsi.com> <24eddtINNk4b@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu> Organization: St Dismas' Home for the Incurably Informed Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1993 00:31:54 GMT Message-ID: <1993Aug13.003154.3249@jonh.wimsey.bc.ca> Distribution: world,happynet ksh@prl.ufl.edu (Kevin S Ho) writes: >Well, that's a good point, but take a total idiot and tell him to install linux....... Take a total idiot and ask him to use linux, or any un*x. Or DOS. Getting linux installed is the price of admission. ;=) -- John Henders GO/MU/E d* -p+ c+++ l++ t- m--- s/++ g+ w+++ -x+
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: clarance@nshade.uah.ualberta.ca (Clarance Howatt) Subject: Indexing WriteNow docs Message-ID: <1993Aug13.010214.6639@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1993 01:02:14 GMT This could be a FAQ but I will ask anyway. One of the Doctors here at the hospital PURCHASED (are you happy Randy :-) ) WriteNow. I know that there is a way to make Librarian index his WriteNow docs but I can't seem to find it. Does anyone know how this magic is performed? ============================================================ Clarance Howatt Programmer, Information Systems University of Alberta Hospitals WMC 2C2.21, 8440 - 112th Street,
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mshaler@tdocad.sps.mot.com (Michael Shaler) Subject: Re: NS 3.0-J References: <MARTIN.93Aug12122646@hagi.noguchi.riec.tohoku.ac.jp> Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1993 05:02:45 GMT Distribution: comp Organization: Nippon Motorola Ltd., Tokyo, Japan Sender: news@tkymail.sps.mot.com Message-ID: <1993Aug13.050245.18208@tkymail.sps.mot.com> Martin Moser writes Here 's another question concerning NS-J 3.0: If I install NS-J 3.0, will all menues be in Japanese, i.e. also the Workspace Managers menues etc.? Will the menues change to English if I change the pre- ferred language to English with the Preferences program? I 'd be happy if somebody who used NS 3.x-J could write me about his or her experiences. Unlike the Mac (with the exception of Nisus/Mercury's SoloWriter), you can change your language of choice on the fly. Interfaces follow the behavior you describe to a "t," or to a "$B$?(J" or to a "$B%?(J".... %^). Cheers... --- Michael Shaler Tokyo Design Center Nippon Motorola Ltd. +813 3280 8245 voice +813 3440 0033 fax mshaler@tdocad.sps.mot.com [NeXTmail] -- NewsGrazer, a NeXTstep(tm) news reader, posting -- M>UQR=&8P7&%N<VE[7&9O;G1T8FQ<9C%<9FYI;"!2>75M:6Y4:6UE<RU,:6=H M=#M<9C!<9FYI;"!&:7AE9$=O=&AI8T)"0D-O=7)I97([?0I<;6%R9VPQ,C`* M7&UA<F=R,3(P"GM<8V]L;W)T8FP[7')E9#!<9W)E96XP7&)L=64P.WT*7'!A M<F1<='@U,C!<='@Q,#8P7'1X,38P,%QT>#(Q,C!<='@R-C8P7'1X,S(P,%QT M>#,W,C!<='@T,C8P7'1X-#@P,%QT>#4S,C!<9C%<8C!<:3!<=6QN;VYE7&9S M,CA<9F,Q7&-F,2!-87)T:6X@36]S97(@=W)I=&5S7`H@($AE<F4G<R!A;F]T M:&5R('%U97-T:6]N(&-O;F-E<FYI;F<@3E,M2B`S+C`Z("!)9B!)(&EN<W1A M;&P@3E,M2B`S+C`L(%P*("!W:6QL(&%L;"!M96YU97,@8F4@:6X@2F%P86YE M<V4L(&DN92X@86QS;R!T:&4@5V]R:W-P86-E($UA;F%G97)S(%P*("!M96YU M97,@971C+C\@(%=I;&P@=&AE(&UE;G5E<R!C:&%N9V4@=&\@16YG;&ES:"!I M9B!)(&-H86YG92!T:&4@<')E+5P*("!F97)R960@;&%N9W5A9V4@=&\@16YG M;&ES:"!W:71H('1H92!0<F5F97)E;F-E<R!P<F]G<F%M/R`@22`G9"!B92!< M"B`@:&%P<'D@:68@<V]M96)O9'D@=VAO('5S960@3E,@,RYX+4H@8V]U;&0@ M=W)I=&4@;64@86)O=70@:&ES(&]R(&AE<EP*("!E>'!E<FEE;F-E<RY<"EP* M56YL:6ME('1H92!-86,@*'=I=&@@=&AE(&5X8V5P=&EO;B!O9B!.:7-U<R]- M97)C=7)Y)W,@4V]L;U=R:71E<BDL(%P*>6]U(&-A;B!C:&%N9V4@>6]U<B!L M86YG=6%G92!O9B!C:&]I8V4@;VX@=&AE(&9L>2X@($EN=&5R9F%C97,@9F]L M;&]W('1H92!<"F)E:&%V:6]R('EO=2!D97-C<FEB92!T;R!A(")T+"(@;W(@ M=&\@82`BI+\B(&]R('1O(&$@(J6_(BXN+BX@)5XI+EP*7`H*7'!A<F1<='@Y M-C!<='@Q.3(P7'1X,C@X,%QT>#,X-#!<='@T.#`P7'1X-3<V,%QT>#8W,C!< M='@W-C@P7'1X.#8T,%QT>#DV,#!<9F,Q7&-F,2!#:&5E<G,N+BY<"BTM+5P* M36EC:&%E;"!3:&%L97)<"E1O:WEO($1E<VEG;B!#96YT97)<"DYI<'!O;B!- M;W1O<F]L82!,=&0N7`HK.#$S(#,R.#`@.#(T-2!V;VEC95P**S@Q,R`S-#0P M(#`P,S,@9F%X7`IM<VAA;&5R0'1D;V-A9"YS<',N;6]T+F-O;2!;3F585&UA &:6Q="GT* `
From: mouri@omega.cs.ritsumei.ac.jp (Koichi MOURI) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: X11R5 for NeXT Message-ID: <MOURI.93Aug13160345@omega.cs.ritsumei.ac.jp> Date: 13 Aug 93 07:03:45 GMT Sender: news@rucs.cs.ritsumei.ac.jp Distribution: comp Organization: Ritsumeikan University, Kyoto, Japan Hello. This is a first post to this news group. I use NeXT Cube(68040-25MHz,NeXT Dimension). I want to use X-Window system on my cube. There are some X-Window system for NeXT, but they don't support Dimension. If you know the system supports Dimension, let me know where it is, please. Thank you. -- ----- Koichi Mouri Department of Computer science, Ritsumeikan University, E-mail:mouri@omega.cs.ritsumei.ac.jp Kyoto, Japan.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.software From: dkk@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (david.k.kallman) Subject: Re: .ps icon mangled Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1993 22:13:15 GMT Message-ID: <CBo324.F36@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software References: <CBM6sD.5K4@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> In article <CBM6sD.5K4@cbnewsl.cb.att.com>, I wrote: > Folks, > > The icon for .ps files in WorkSpace Manager is mangled on > my system. The file icon shows up in black and white (it > used to be in color) and the title says "PS?". .eps files > show up fine in color and saying "EPS". > > I'm running 3.1 on a NextStation Color. > > Anyone seen this? Well, it seems that the 3.1 version of Opener also wants .ps files and that's what's causing the problem. Any suggestions? Thanks. Dave Kallman -- ---- Dave Kallman, AT&T, 480 Red Hill Rd., Middletown, NJ 07748 d_k_kallman@att.com, (908)615-2989, fax: (908)615-2507
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: stefan@initiera.upnet.se (Stefan Kruger) Subject: MathWorks' MatLab ?? Message-ID: <1993Aug13.093318.13667@sics.se> Sender: news@sics.se Organization: Swedish Institute of Computer Science, Kista Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1993 09:33:18 GMT Anyone knows anything about MatLab for NeXT ? Does it exist, and if so, is it any good ? I also would like to know email addresses to people at MathWorks Thanks ! Stefan Kruger, stefan@initiera.upnet.se -- sig under construction
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: rob@shw.optics.rochester.edu (Rob Smith) Subject: word processors for 486 machines Message-ID: <1993Aug13.092502.15413@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> Sender: news@galileo.cc.rochester.edu Organization: University of Rochester Computing Center Date: Fri, 13 Aug 93 09:25:02 GMT I'm starting an new job and think I'll get another Next. What are my options for word processors for NS running of a 486? Equation Builders? Drawing Packages? Opinions on quality appreciated Email prefered thanks rob
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software From: mark@cyantic.com (Mark T. Dornfeld) Subject: Scanner/software combo for fax service Organization: CYANTIC Systems Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1993 13:28:37 GMT Message-ID: <1993Aug13.132837.23778@cyantic.com> We all know how easy it is to fax from an application in NS, but every so often, a piece of paper or two needs to be faxed quickly. I'd like to not have to buy a fax machine, so I thought about hooking up a scanner to my black next that could be used as fax input. Are there any combinations of hardware and software that can perform this function adequately? I'd also prefer a SCSI interface for the scanner since both serial ports on my Turbo are presently occupied. Thanks -- Mark T. Dornfeld, CYANTIC Systems Voice: (416) 234-9048 101 Subway Crescent Suite 2103 Facsimile: (416) 234-0477 Etobicoke, Ontario, M9B 6K4 CANADA Email: mark@cyantic.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jdc@selway.umt.edu (John-David Childs) Subject: Please help w/ ixBuild and mail problems Message-ID: <1993Aug13.132131.3371@selway.umt.edu> Organization: University of Montana, Missoula Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1993 13:21:31 GMT I have two questions...first the easy one: I'm running NeXTStep 3.0 on a Turbo Cube...how do I include a previously created document in a mail message if the recipient is NOT on a NeXT (I'm talking the GUI mail program, not /usr/ucb/Mail (which is what I used when I finally gave up on the GUI mailer). I hope the answer isn't cut & paste...that would be dissapointing for an otherwise powerful enviornment Is there a better GUI mail interface? The other question involves using ixBuild to index documents for a gopher server. The man page is a little too obtuse for me to figure out. I need to index documents in an entire tree (e.g. ~/gopher/data/.....). However, these documents have short title names that are aliased using Gopher's .cap/ .names functionality and I want ixBuild to index the files using their long name. I've never used ixBuild before so I need a little hand-holding on this one. Thanks. -- John-David Childs Senior Consultant, University of Montana CIS UM Student Health Service HEALTHLINE Gopher Admin jdc@selway.umt.edu, con_jdc@lewis.umt.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: wkwong@lyapunov.eng.ohio-state.edu (Waihon Andrew Kwong) Subject: Re: .ps icon mangled Message-ID: <1993Aug13.134056.28165@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu> Sender: news@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu Organization: The Ohio State University Dept of Electrical Engineering References: <CBM6sD.5K4@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> <CBo324.F36@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1993 13:40:56 GMT In article <CBo324.F36@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> dkk@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (david.k.kallman) writes: >In article <CBM6sD.5K4@cbnewsl.cb.att.com>, I wrote: >> Folks, >> >> The icon for .ps files in WorkSpace Manager is mangled on >> my system. The file icon shows up in black and white (it >> used to be in color) and the title says "PS?". .eps files >> show up fine in color and saying "EPS". >> >> I'm running 3.1 on a NextStation Color. >> >> Anyone seen this? > >Well, it seems that the 3.1 version of Opener also >wants .ps files and that's what's causing the problem. Opener also wants my EPS files, too. I guess Opener is a little confused in .ps/.eps files. I have send mail to the author, but no return message yet. Andy > >Any suggestions? > >Thanks. > >Dave Kallman >-- >---- >Dave Kallman, AT&T, 480 Red Hill Rd., Middletown, NJ 07748 >d_k_kallman@att.com, (908)615-2989, fax: (908)615-2507
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: .ps icon mangled Date: 13 Aug 1993 10:01:44 -0400 Organization: Digital Fix Development Distribution: world Message-ID: <24g6s8$2t6@digifix.digifix.com> References: <CBo324.F36@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> david.k.kallman writes > > Well, it seems that the 3.1 version of Opener also > wants .ps files and that's what's causing the problem. > Opener 3.1 wants PS so that .PS (not .ps) files can open in Preview. I just ripped it out. Open the Opener Project in ProjectBuilder. Select attributes. Scroll till you find the .PS icon. DELETE. All the opener icons are an odd size too. 46x47. if you change them all to be 48x48 the look a lot better. -- - Scott Anguish - sanguish@digifix.com (NextMail) next-announce@digifix.com (comp.sys.next.announce submissions)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bruce@TotSysSoft.com (Bruce Gingery) Subject: Re: Mail.app won't send NextMail anymore! Message-ID: <1993Aug13.130628.7518@ToTSySSoft.com> Sender: news@ToTSySSoft.com Organization: Total System Software References: <24cqh5$5b6@digifix.digifix.com> Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1993 13:06:28 GMT In article <24cqh5$5b6@digifix.digifix.com> sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) writes: -> In the past couple of days, all of a sudden my Mail.app -> doesn't seem to want to -> send NextMail to anyone. -> -> The bodies of the messages are empty. Yes ... followup in comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: rlarson@semlab3.sbs.sunysb.edu (Richard Larson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Where Are Mail.app Addresses Stored? Date: 13 Aug 1993 16:15:58 GMT Organization: Institute For Theoretical Physics Message-ID: <24genu$gum@max.physics.sunysb.edu> Keywords: Mail.app The NEXTSTEP Mail application contains a facility for creating and saving addresses. Does anyone out there know where (i.e., in what files) those addresses are stored? I recently moved a network account from one machine to another and found that the addresses did not move with the account (even though I copied all the old mailboxes). I can't figure out where the addresses are stored, and really don't want to rebuild the whole addresses file from scratch. Help would be greatly appreciated! Please reply to: rlarson@semlab1.sbs.sunysb.edu (NeXTMail's fine)
From: rlarson@semlab3.sbs.sunysb.edu (Richard Larson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Where Are Mail.app Addresses Stored? Date: 13 Aug 1993 16:17:30 GMT Organization: Institute For Theoretical Physics Message-ID: <24geqq$gvv@max.physics.sunysb.edu> Keywords: Mail.app The NEXTSTEP Mail application contains a facility for creating and saving addresses. Does anyone out there know where (i.e., in what files) those addresses are stored? I recently moved a network account from one machine to another and found that the addresses did not move with the account (even though I copied all the old mailboxes). I can't figure out where the addresses are stored, and really don't want to rebuild the whole addresses file from scratch. Help would be greatly appreciated! Please reply to: rlarson@semlab1.sbs.sunysb.edu (NeXTMail's fine)
From: rlarson@semlab3.sbs.sunysb.edu (Richard Larson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Where Are Mail.app Addresses Stored? Date: 13 Aug 1993 16:18:05 GMT Organization: Institute For Theoretical Physics Message-ID: <24gert$h07@max.physics.sunysb.edu> Keywords: Mail.app The NEXTSTEP Mail application contains a facility for creating and saving addresses. Does anyone out there know where (i.e., in what files) those addresses are stored? I recently moved a network account from one machine to another and found that the addresses did not move with the account (even though I copied all the old mailboxes). I can't figure out where the addresses are stored, and really don't want to rebuild the whole addresses file from scratch. Help would be greatly appreciated! Please reply to: rlarson@semlab1.sbs.sunysb.edu (NeXTMail's fine)
From: bahder@admii.arl.army.mil (Tom Bahder ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Problem with make of gnu ispell-4.0 under NeXTStep3.1 (Black) Message-ID: <1296@aos.brl.mil> Date: 13 Aug 93 15:32:15 GMT Sender: news@aos.brl.mil Organization: U.S. Army Research Laboratory APG, MD. I am trying to compile ispell-4.0 on e NeXT (Black) under NeXTStep3.1. The configure seems to work O.K. (I have gcc-2.4.5 installed.) However, the make returns an error, see below. Does anone have any ideas on what is going on ? Is the make supposed to work ? Tom Bahder email and NeXT mail: bahder@tbb.arl.army.mil Applied Physics Branch U. S. Army Research Laboratory 2800 Powder Mill Road Adelphi, Maryland 20783 tel. 301-394-2042 fax: 301-394-2103 ----------- installation ----------------- tbb> ./configure checking for gcc checking how to run the C preprocessor checking whether -traditional is needed checking for install checking for BSD string and memory functions checking for BSD checking for i386 checking for -ltermlib checking for -lBSD checking for -lc checking for -lelf checking for -lucb checking for return type of signal handlers checking for working const checking for inline checking for working alloca.h checking for alloca checking for malloc.h checking for termios.h checking for termio.h checking for string.h checking for strings.h checking for checking for broken TIOCGWINSZ creating config.status creating Makefile tbb> make gcc -c -I. -DBSD=1 -DRETSIGTYPE=void -DHAVE_TERMIOS_H=1 -DHAVE_STRING_H=1 -DHAVE_STRINGS_H=1 -DDICT_LIB=\"/usr/local/lib/ispell\" -g build.c gcc -c -I. -DBSD=1 -DRETSIGTYPE=void -DHAVE_TERMIOS_H=1 -DHAVE_STRING_H=1 -DHAVE_STRINGS_H=1 -DDICT_LIB=\"/usr/local/lib/ispell\" -g mklextbl.c gcc -c -I. -DBSD=1 -DRETSIGTYPE=void -DHAVE_TERMIOS_H=1 -DHAVE_STRING_H=1 -DHAVE_STRINGS_H=1 -DDICT_LIB=\"/usr/local/lib/ispell\" -g access.c cp ./c-generic.c charset.c gcc -c -I. -DBSD=1 -DRETSIGTYPE=void -DHAVE_TERMIOS_H=1 -DHAVE_STRING_H=1 -DHAVE_STRINGS_H=1 -DDICT_LIB=\"/usr/local/lib/ispell\" -g charset.c gcc -c -I. -DBSD=1 -DRETSIGTYPE=void -DHAVE_TERMIOS_H=1 -DHAVE_STRING_H=1 -DHAVE_STRINGS_H=1 -DDICT_LIB=\"/usr/local/lib/ispell\" -g ctbl.c gcc -c -I. -DBSD=1 -DRETSIGTYPE=void -DHAVE_TERMIOS_H=1 -DHAVE_STRING_H=1 -DHAVE_STRINGS_H=1 -DDICT_LIB=\"/usr/local/lib/ispell\" -g downcase.c gcc -c -I. -DBSD=1 -DRETSIGTYPE=void -DHAVE_TERMIOS_H=1 -DHAVE_STRING_H=1 -DHAVE_STRINGS_H=1 -DDICT_LIB=\"/usr/local/lib/ispell\" -g exp.c gcc -c -I. -DBSD=1 -DRETSIGTYPE=void -DHAVE_TERMIOS_H=1 -DHAVE_STRING_H=1 -DHAVE_STRINGS_H=1 -DDICT_LIB=\"/usr/local/lib/ispell\" -g getopt.c gcc -c -I. -DBSD=1 -DRETSIGTYPE=void -DHAVE_TERMIOS_H=1 -DHAVE_STRING_H=1 -DHAVE_STRINGS_H=1 -DDICT_LIB=\"/usr/local/lib/ispell\" -g getopt1.c gcc -c -I. -DBSD=1 -DRETSIGTYPE=void -DHAVE_TERMIOS_H=1 -DHAVE_STRING_H=1 -DHAVE_STRINGS_H=1 -DDICT_LIB=\"/usr/local/lib/ispell\" -g hash.c gcc -c -I. -DBSD=1 -DRETSIGTYPE=void -DHAVE_TERMIOS_H=1 -DHAVE_STRING_H=1 -DHAVE_STRINGS_H=1 -DDICT_LIB=\"/usr/local/lib/ispell\" -g lexfsm.c gcc -c -I. -DBSD=1 -DRETSIGTYPE=void -DHAVE_TERMIOS_H=1 -DHAVE_STRING_H=1 -DHAVE_STRINGS_H=1 -DDICT_LIB=\"/usr/local/lib/ispell\" -g nextprime.c gcc -c -I. -DBSD=1 -DRETSIGTYPE=void -DHAVE_TERMIOS_H=1 -DHAVE_STRING_H=1 -DHAVE_STRINGS_H=1 -DDICT_LIB=\"/usr/local/lib/ispell\" -g suf.c gcc -c -I. -DBSD=1 -DRETSIGTYPE=void -DHAVE_TERMIOS_H=1 -DHAVE_STRING_H=1 -DHAVE_STRINGS_H=1 -DDICT_LIB=\"/usr/local/lib/ispell\" -g version.c gcc -c -I. -DBSD=1 -DRETSIGTYPE=void -DHAVE_TERMIOS_H=1 -DHAVE_STRING_H=1 -DHAVE_STRINGS_H=1 -DDICT_LIB=\"/usr/local/lib/ispell\" -g util.c gcc -g -o build build.o mklextbl.o access.o charset.o ctbl.o downcase.o exp.o getopt.o getopt1.o hash.o lexfsm.o nextprime.o suf.o version.o util.o -ltermlib gcc -c -I. -DBSD=1 -DRETSIGTYPE=void -DHAVE_TERMIOS_H=1 -DHAVE_STRING_H=1 -DHAVE_STRINGS_H=1 -DDICT_LIB=\"/usr/local/lib/ispell\" -g look.c gcc -g -o look look.o getopt.o getopt1.o util.o -ltermlib gcc -c -I. -DBSD=1 -DRETSIGTYPE=void -DHAVE_TERMIOS_H=1 -DHAVE_STRING_H=1 -DHAVE_STRINGS_H=1 -DDICT_LIB=\"/usr/local/lib/ispell\" -g ispell.c gcc -c -I. -DBSD=1 -DRETSIGTYPE=void -DHAVE_TERMIOS_H=1 -DHAVE_STRING_H=1 -DHAVE_STRINGS_H=1 -DDICT_LIB=\"/usr/local/lib/ispell\" -g case.c gcc -c -I. -DBSD=1 -DRETSIGTYPE=void -DHAVE_TERMIOS_H=1 -DHAVE_STRING_H=1 -DHAVE_STRINGS_H=1 -DDICT_LIB=\"/usr/local/lib/ispell\" -g gen.c gcc -c -I. -DBSD=1 -DRETSIGTYPE=void -DHAVE_TERMIOS_H=1 -DHAVE_STRING_H=1 -DHAVE_STRINGS_H=1 -DDICT_LIB=\"/usr/local/lib/ispell\" -g good.c gcc -c -I. -DBSD=1 -DRETSIGTYPE=void -DHAVE_TERMIOS_H=1 -DHAVE_STRING_H=1 -DHAVE_STRINGS_H=1 -DDICT_LIB=\"/usr/local/lib/ispell\" -g priv.c gcc -c -I. -DBSD=1 -DRETSIGTYPE=void -DHAVE_TERMIOS_H=1 -DHAVE_STRING_H=1 -DHAVE_STRINGS_H=1 -DDICT_LIB=\"/usr/local/lib/ispell\" -g screen.c gcc -c -I. -DBSD=1 -DRETSIGTYPE=void -DHAVE_TERMIOS_H=1 -DHAVE_STRING_H=1 -DHAVE_STRINGS_H=1 -DDICT_LIB=\"/usr/local/lib/ispell\" -g term.c term.c: In function `terminit': term.c:222: `TCGETA' undeclared (first use this function) term.c:222: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once term.c:222: for each function it appears in.) term.c:230: `termio' has an incomplete type term.c:231: invalid use of undefined type `struct termio' term.c:232: invalid use of undefined type `struct termio' term.c:233: invalid use of undefined type `struct termio' term.c:234: invalid use of undefined type `struct termio' term.c:235: invalid use of undefined type `struct termio' term.c:237: `TCSETA' undeclared (first use this function) term.c: In function `termuninit': term.c:248: `TCSETA' undeclared (first use this function) term.c: In function `termreinit': term.c:258: `TCSETA' undeclared (first use this function) term.c: At top level: term.c:217: storage size of `termio' isn't known term.c:217: storage size of `otermio' isn't known make: *** [term.o] Error 1 tbb>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: wfc@cl.cam.ac.uk (William Clocksin) Subject: odd behaviour of NXBitmapImageRep drawing Message-ID: <1993Aug13.165947.7379@infodev.cam.ac.uk> Sender: news@infodev.cam.ac.uk (USENET news) Organization: U of Cambridge, England Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1993 16:59:47 GMT Some tiff files, when read in using NXBitmapImageRep, do not render correctly using [image draw]. However, the same files render correctly using [image drawIn: &rect], for a suitable &rect, even if &rect specifies the same size as the image (and therefore a near-identity transformation). It is difficult for me to establish why certain tiff files do this, as their info seems OK. I am simply working around the problem by setting an NXRect to the size of the image, and using drawIn. It would be interesting to know why drawIn should work while draw doesn't work for the exact same images. Has anybody else noticed this? Sorry if there is a FAQ I didn't see. ---------------------------------------------------- W.F. Clocksin, Assistant Director of Research, Computer Laboratory, University of Cambridge Pembroke Street, Cambridge CB2 3QG, U.K. Internet: wfc@CL.cam.ac.uk (NeXTMail is acceptable) Tel UK: (0223) 334628. Tel (Int'l): +44 223-334628. Fax UK: (0223) 334678. Fax (Int'l): +44 223-334678.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: OBS_Inc@mindlink.bc.ca (OBS Inc) Subject: Re: Screen Calibration Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1993 14:53:51 GMT Message-ID: <27913@mindlink.bc.ca> Sender: news@deep.rsoft.bc.ca (Usenet News at rsoft.bc.ca) You will find Calibrator.app.tar.Z at roxette.mty.itesm.mx. Look in /pub/next/submissions. grant -- Objective Business Systems Inc. Phone: 604.682.0510 Fax: 604.682.6579 Email: OBS_Inc@MindLink.bc.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bruce@TotSysSoft.com (Bruce Gingery) Subject: Re: problems with kermit Message-ID: <1993Aug14.092528.8944@ToTSySSoft.com> Sender: news@ToTSySSoft.com Organization: Total System Software References: <1993Aug13.165544.4450@ncsu.edu> Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1993 09:25:28 GMT In article <1993Aug13.165544.4450@ncsu.edu> buchanan@matagh.ncsu.edu (Bob Buchanan) writes: -> -> I have been using C-Kermit 5A(189) ALPHA, 4 June 93, -> NeXT for modem communications and file transfer. I -> downloaded the source code for this kermit and built -> it under NeXTSTEP 3.0. It worked fine. I recently -> upgraded to NeXTSTEP 3.1 (black) and now when I start -> kermit I get the following messages: -> -> localhost.bob> kermit -> /dev/cufa: Permission denied -> Sorry, access to device denied: /dev/cufa -> ?Sorry, you must SET LINE first -> C-Kermit 5A(189) ALPHA, 4 June 93, NeXT -> Type ? or HELP for help -> C-Kermit> -> -> Is this a problem with the permissions and/or ownership -> of kermit and /dev/cufa OR could this be related to a -> serial port problem I heard a rumor about under NS3.1? -> If anyone has a solution or work-around I'd -> like to hear it. -> -> Thanks, -> Bob Buchanan (Bob_Buchanan@ncsu.edu) -> -> For the record these are my permissions: -> -> crw------- 1 uucp wheel 11,224 Aug 13 09:34 /dev/cufa -> -rwxr-xr-x 1 uucp wheel 376832 Jun 20 15:49 /usr/local/bin/kermit* -> -rwxr-xr-x 1 uucp wheel 32768 Jun 21 22:17 /usr/local/bin/rb* -> -rwxr-xr-x 1 uucp wheel 32768 Jun 21 22:17 /usr/local/bin/rx* -> -rwxr-xr-x 1 uucp wheel 32768 Jun 21 22:17 /usr/local/bin/rz* -> -rwxr-xr-x 1 uucp wheel 40960 Jun 21 22:17 /usr/local/bin/sb* -> -rwxr-xr-x 1 uucp wheel 40960 Jun 21 22:17 /usr/local/bin/sx* -> -rwxr-xr-x 1 uucp wheel 40960 Jun 21 22:17 /usr/local/bin/sz* -> Your .kermrc looks ok. but your permissions are probably killing you unless you are actually logged in as ``uucp'', which is unlikely as ``uucp'' generally has /usr/lib/uucp/uucico as default shell. As root... cd /usr/local/bin chmod 4755 kermit rz sz rm -f rx rb sx sb ln -s ./rz rb ln -s ./rz rc ln -s ./rz rx ln -s ./sz sb ln -s ./sz sx AND, if you have the 9202 version of Z-Modem, you can also do symbolic links for the zcommand stuff (to sz). Z-Modem uses the invocation name to determine the chosen protocol to use. Thus rz has rb, rc and rx built in. sz has sb and sx also built in. You may wish to be SURE that this works before actually removing the rb, rx, sb, sx binaries you have in the directory, but any *nix version I've seen in the last 6 or so years have worked this way. As for the rzsz9202 distribution of Z-Modem, as distributed it will NOT work under another terminal program such as C-Kermit unless you change the open, but works well from the commandline in any testing I've done, including rle compression (-Z) and Z-Modem resume (-r). Bruce Gingery bruce@TotSysSoft.com NeXT-Mail preferred, MIME-Mail ok
From: greg@brooks.async.vt.edu (Greg Foliente) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: PV-WAVE to reach NEXTSTEP Date: 14 Aug 1993 18:34:08 GMT Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia Message-ID: <24jb70$1sr@vtserf.cc.vt.edu> References: <CBpvFJ.Lzu@unix.portal.com> In article <CBpvFJ.Lzu@unix.portal.com> raf@shell.portal.com (Man Wei Tam) writes: > Okay, I can resist it any longer, here's the news - > > Within the past month or so, a large financial company, has been negotiating > with Precision-Visuals, to port PV-WAVE to NEXSTEP. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Wow !!!! This would make a great combination. But, did the negotiations work out? > > I belive the port will be for all NEXTSTEP hardware, including the new > HP-PA-RISC version. This is very good news for NeXT and is another vindication > that the platform is now being taken a lot more seriously. > > Don't pester Precision-Visuals. How about encouraging and thanking them? -- ................................................................. Greg Foliente NeXTmail: greg@brooks.async.vt.edu Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, VA pol2@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu .................................................................
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: chris@iastate.edu (Chris Wong) Subject: Re: Larger Terminal in MicroPhone Pro? Message-ID: <chris.745375806@vincent2.iastate.edu> Sender: news@news.iastate.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA References: <chris.744615820@vincent2.iastate.edu> <1993Aug9.175743.25812@svcdudes.com> Distribution: na Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1993 00:50:06 GMT In <1993Aug9.175743.25812@svcdudes.com> moose@svcdudes.com writes: >In article <chris.744615820@vincent2.iastate.edu> chris@iastate.edu (Chris >Wong) writes: >> In <1993Jul31.024445.28433@svcdudes.com> moose@svcdudes.com writes: >> >> >> What kinds of modems are supported under MicroPhone Pro and NS/FIP? >> Is Hayes compatible modem supported? >> >Since MicroPhone uses modifyable modem drivers, we support all modems. We ship >with most modems, and any modem we don't have already, we can quickly create a >modem driver for that modem. BTW, which brand/kind of modem best performed under NS/FIP? I heard some names ... telebit... Zylex? Just curious, what so great about them? And how do they compared with Hayes compatible modems? Thanks for any information. >-- >Michael Rutman | moose@svcdudes.com >Cubist | makes me a NeXT programmer >Software Ventures | maker of MicroPhone Pro >#include <std.disclaimer> | really offensive political statement -- Chris Wong | "Hardware is supposed to serve Software." chris@iastate.edu | Computer Engineering & Computer Science twba8@isuvax.iastate.edu | Iowa State University of Science and Technology
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: verket@venice.sedd.trw.com (Paul Verket) Subject: Re: NewsGrazer Message-ID: <1993Aug15.035142.10584@venice.sedd.trw.com> Originator: verket@verket-home Sender: news@venice.sedd.trw.com (USENET News) Organization: TRW Systems Engineering & Development Division, Carson, CA References: <CBLxII.5Fw@lorax.com> Distribution: na Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1993 03:51:42 GMT In article <CBLxII.5Fw@lorax.com> mike@lorax.com (Mike Ferris) writes: > I don't think any of the answers so far understood the full situation. If > you are connecting nntp-wise over a SLIP connection, the active file is > not on your machine. Therefore, you can't really edit out the groups you > don't want. Also, regardless of the groups in your .newsrc (the ones > you're subscribed to), the whole active file is always scanned on startup. > I don't think you can get around the problem without reconfiguring the way > you get news. I've looked at the nntp stream that NewsGrazer produces and it's just inefficient! It pops the server for the entire (remote) active file upon startup whether you have the news groups panel in browser mode or not. The list view can get by with the data from the "group" nntp command run against each subscribed group. Paul Verket (NeXTmail ok)
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NewsGrazer Date: 15 Aug 1993 02:40:29 -0400 Organization: Digital Fix Development Distribution: na Message-ID: <24klot$7jg@digifix.digifix.com> References: <1993Aug15.035142.10584@venice.sedd.trw.com> Paul Verket writes > I've looked at the nntp stream that NewsGrazer produces and it's just > inefficient! It pops the server for the entire (remote) active file upon > startup whether you have the news groups panel in browser mode or not. > > The list view can get by with the data from the "group" nntp command run > against each subscribed group. Paul... That would work, but you would lose the ability to automatically be able to access new newsgroups. -- - Scott Anguish - sanguish@digifix.com (NextMail) next-announce@digifix.com (comp.sys.next.announce submissions)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: bstone@acs.ucalgary.ca (Blake Stone) Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP is a memory HOG! Message-ID: <Aug15.073135.23769@acs.ucalgary.ca> Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1993 07:31:35 GMT References: <24gpam$2ut@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta Keywords: NESTSTEP MEMORY HOG DISK SPACE ***** BEFORE I BEGIN ***** This resembles the "oh my god, you can't have as many processes under 3.1 as you can under 3.0, look 'hostconfig' says so!" thread. Reading the output of applications like 'ps' and making sense of the results is HARD on a modern os and shouldn't be undertaken lightly. --- > I just ran a ps -aux on my 486/50DX2 with 20 megs of ram. > Guess what? The window server takes up 30% of the system > memory! I just ran ps on MY system, added up all of the "RSIZE"s (real size as opposed to virtual size, which is MUCH larger) and found out that my system, running only a few applications is using 40.152MB of RAM... that's 143% of system memory! Wait a sec... 143% is more than slightly over 100% and my system isn't CLOSE to swapping. How can this possibly be true? Well, for one thing, every application using a shared library reports the size of the shared libraries in both its virtual and real sizes. After all the library IS a part of the app's memory, and some of it is in RAM... but that part can be SHARED between multiple apps. Hence the name. How much of an application is shared libraries? Well, even a simple app created with Project Builder / Interface Builder winds up loading: libMedia: 451,508 bytes libNeXT: 2,145,380 bytes libIndexing: 498,384 bytes libsys: 953,412 bytes ... that's almost 4MB of virtual space, and potentially 4MB of REAL space that isn't actually a part of your application. So when "Solitaire.app" is listed as occupying 4.61MB of virtual memory, it's actually only about 700k! And that's virtual! What about REAL memory? 1.49MB is listed, but most of the is shared library. I wish I knew of a way to check in any depth offhand... but probably not a whole bunch is local to the application, only 56k is malloced, and most of the rest will be, what, stack? I'd guess we're looking at about 128k, total REAL memory, ignoring window backing store (but that's not part of my memory space, anyway). > Between the window server, the kernel, and other little things > my system uses over 60% of its memory! I could understand > NEXTSTEP needing 8 megs to run, but over 12 megs of RAM just to > load the system? Someone needs to trim this thing down to > size. Take it with a grain of salt. Realistically, in real memory it looks like 2MB for the window server, 3MB for the kernel, 1.5MB for shared libraries, 0.5MB for daemons. Net result: You really need about 7MB for the "base stuff". An 8MB machine has about 1MB left for applications and window backing storage without swapping which is quite tight. A full screen of windows on a 2-bit mono 640x480 occupies about .1MB, and an application like interface builder takes about 1.25MB to run... but you can ALMOST do it without swapping! Of course, when running 1120 x 832 with 12-bit color, a screen full of windows now occupies 1.5MB... so a 16MB system can run three "full screen" IB-style applications comfortably. > There is one other very intresting thing. The CPU utilization > for the whole system was under 25%. Nice to see that NEXTSTEP > dosen't really eat CPU time and memory. Get a grip and learn to look past the surface a bit before you start to gripe. Presuming you'd like your system to be properly utilized, 100% CPU utilization would be nice to see for the simplest of tasks, but you're waiting on video / interprocess / disk bottlenecks so 25% isn't bad... and most of that time will be WindowServer CPU (drawing those individual characters and scrolling bitmapped displays around...) now if the rest of the system were actually DOING something, that would be a different matter and CPU utilization would change accordingly. -- Blake W. Stone | DKW Systems Corporation Chief Technical Officer | A N[EXTSTEP,eXT[STEP,step,Step]] VAR bstone@acs.ucalgary.ca | | ... couldn't have been ME
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dgursky@nextsrv1.andi.org (David Gursky) Subject: cron gone awry? Message-ID: <dgursky.745372227@news.andi.org> Summary: cron not processing crontab.local Keywords: cron Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1993 23:50:27 GMT For some reason I can't figure out, cron has stopped processing the contents of my crontab.local file. I haven't check to see if it is doing the stuff in crontab. This one has pulled me up short. Although I've changed the file, cron has not been processing crontab.local for several days before I did so, and the crontab.local file had not been changed in several weeks. The access and ownership of the file appear correct, and the link between /private/etc /crontab.local and /usr/lib/crontab.local is in place correctly. Anyone have some clues as to why this is happening? David M. Gursky MIME and NEXTMAIL accepted Synex, Inc. e-mail: .. dgursky@nextsrv1.andi.org 5950 Symphony Woods Road voice: ............. (301) 621-5732 Columbia, MD 21044 fax: ............. (301) 621-6005
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: chris@nice.usergroup.ethz.ch (Christian Limpach) Subject: Re: ModPlayer for NS/I Message-ID: <CBtDAx.w3@arkin> Originator: chris@nice Sender: news@bernina.ethz.ch (USENET News System) Organization: welcome to nowhere... References: <1993Aug8.062450.49217@austin.onu.edu> Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1993 18:42:33 GMT C0d3 M0n$t3r (kbacon@austin.onu.edu) wrote: > Is there one? ModPlayer 2.5 and Paula seem to be sourceless and from > what I hear are m68k asm anyway. AFAIK ModPlayer is a port of the Sparc Tracker, which is written in C and should compile on NS/I. Paula uses the original Amiga ProTracker Sequencer, which is written in m68k-asm and can't be rewritten in C, as it's just a lot of code, randomly put together with branches from everywhere to nowhere :-) The only C-code in Paula is the Nextstep stuff... > If there isn't one avail. is someone working on one? I will not make Paula work on NS/I... christian
From: spot!ben@cs.indiana.edu (Ben Bernhard) Newsgroups: blgtn.cohorts,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Help!! (is stupid typo) Message-ID: <1993Aug15.160259.480@cs.indiana.edu> Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1993 16:02:59 GMT Sender: ben@cs.indiana.edu Organization: frogware I blew it and accidently deleted a rather important file in cnews: /usr/local/bin/news/input/newsrun If anybody out there is running CNEWS on a black NEXTSTEP machine, please e-mail me a copy of this file. otherwise: can somebody mail be the CNews source so I can recompile? thanks, ben --- __________________________________________________________________________ Ben Bernhard (NeXTMail Pref.) "Nothing that results from human progress 812/339-5304 (fax) is achieved with unanimous consent." spot!ben@cs.indiana.edu ---Christopher Columbus -- __________________________________________________________________________ Ben Bernhard (NeXTMail Pref.) "Nothing that results from human progress 812/339-5304 (fax) is achieved with unanimous consent."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Scanner/software combo for fax service Message-ID: <1993Aug15.124114.1592@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <1993Aug13.132837.23778@cyantic.com> Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1993 12:41:14 GMT In article <1993Aug13.132837.23778@cyantic.com> mark@cyantic.com (Mark T. Dornfeld) writes: > We all know how easy it is to fax from an application in NS, but every > so not often, a piece of paper or two needs to be faxed quickly. I'd > like to have to buy a fax machine, so I thought about hooking up a > scanner to my black next that could be used as fax input. > > Are there any combinations of hardware and software that can perform > this function adequately? I'd also prefer a SCSI interface for the > scanner since both serial ports on my Turbo are presently occupied. > HSD has a complete solution. It's much better than a separate fax though definitely not cheaper! -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | NeXTmail welcome !!! # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Virus software? Message-ID: <1993Aug15.124536.1651@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <1993Aug13.164058.23003@bmd.com> Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1993 12:45:36 GMT In article <1993Aug13.164058.23003@bmd.com> kevins@bmd.com writes: > In article <23ub2m$iiq@panix.com> randyc@panix.com (Randy Clyde) writes: > > Does anyone know about anti-virus software for Next's? Please post or > > E-mail any information. I would prefer software available over the net. > > hehe... heheh.... hehehehhahahahhehehe..... Loghin' !?! But this had to happen if you get onboard the PC-wagon! (Sorry! No offense to the original poster! It's just this sh.. PCs % ^/) -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | NeXTmail welcome !!! # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: chris@iastate.edu (Chris Wong) Subject: Re: Scanner/software combo for fax service Message-ID: <chris.745456979@vincent2.iastate.edu> Sender: news@news.iastate.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA References: <1993Aug13.132837.23778@cyantic.com> <1993Aug15.124114.1592@nidat.sub.org> Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1993 23:22:59 GMT In <1993Aug15.124114.1592@nidat.sub.org> Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) writes: >In article <1993Aug13.132837.23778@cyantic.com> mark@cyantic.com (Mark T. >Dornfeld) writes: >> We all know how easy it is to fax from an application in NS, but every >> so not often, a piece of paper or two needs to be faxed quickly. I'd >> like to have to buy a fax machine, so I thought about hooking up a >> scanner to my black next that could be used as fax input. >> >> Are there any combinations of hardware and software that can perform >> this function adequately? I'd also prefer a SCSI interface for the >> scanner since both serial ports on my Turbo are presently occupied. >> >HSD has a complete solution. It's much better than a separate fax though >definitely not cheaper! What is HSD? Thanks. >-- >Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth >Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and >D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked >GERMANY | NeXTmail welcome !!! # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5 -- Chris Wong | "Hardware is supposed to serve Software." chris@iastate.edu | Computer Engineering & Computer Science twba8@isuvax.iastate.edu | Iowa State University of Science and Technology
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: louie@TransSys.COM (Louis A. Mamakos) Subject: Re: Slip/Kermit for NS-intel Message-ID: <24mgoo$1a9@wa3ymh.transsys.com> Sender: usenet@grebyn.com Organization: TransSys, Inc. References: <1993Aug9.220856.11638@pslu1.psl.wisc.edu> Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1993 23:27:20 GMT In article <1993Aug9.220856.11638@pslu1.psl.wisc.edu> haker@whitewater.chem.wisc.edu (M Haker) writes: >I had read some posts a couple weeks ago that mamakos was close to >releasing a FAT version of slip. Has anyone heard if it's available yet? It's not available yet. I'd prefer not to predict the future and mention a date, since it seems I'm alway wrong.. Even though a few beta sites have an early, incomplete version it is still vaporware since you can't generally get it. -- Louis A. Mamakos TransSys, Inc.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jespiau@solent.oleane.com (Jean Espiau) Subject: Looking for NEXTSTEP healthcare solutions Message-ID: <1993Aug13.094850.338@solent.oleane.com> Sender: news@solent.oleane.com Organization: solent - Montpellier, France. Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1993 09:48:50 GMT Hello, I'm looking for information about existing NEXTSTEP healthcare solutions, companies which develop this kind of software and sites which are using these softwares. Thanks for information you can provide. ----------------------- Jean Espiau Email (NeXT Mail accepted) Societe SOLENT / NeXT VAD jespiau@solent.oleane.com Immeuble le Stratege Z.A. du Millenaire phone : (+33) 67 69 74 14 34000 Montpellier - France fax : (+33) 67 69 74 91
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: kris@black.toppoint.de (Kristian Koehntopp) Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP is a memory HOG! Message-ID: <1993Aug15.154903.25965@black.toppoint.de> Keywords: NESTSTEP MEMORY HOG DISK SPACE Organization: Toppoint Mailbox e.V. References: <24gpam$2ut@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> <Aug15.073135.23769@acs.ucalgary.ca> Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1993 15:49:03 GMT Reproduktion, auch auszugsweise, ausserhalb elektronischer, nichtkommerzieller Datennetze nur mit ausdruecklichem, schriftlichem Einverstaendnis des Autors. In <Aug15.073135.23769@acs.ucalgary.ca> bstone@acs.ucalgary.ca (Blake Stone) writes: >library. I wish I knew of a way to check in any depth offhand... >but probably not a whole bunch is local to the application, only >56k is malloced, and most of the rest will be, what, stack? I'd /NextDeveloper/Apps/ProcessMonitor.app, Processes window, Select a process, Control Inspector, Select mach memory from the Popup, In pages box: click each page and check owner and state or look at the summary above. This is the only way to get detailed memory usage statistics about a NeXTstep program. ps is a completely inadequate tool for this purpose. I am missing a system real/vm memory analyse tool: I want to have a pixel or a small block for each page and different color for the various usages of memory. Kristian -- Kristian Koehntopp, Harmsstrasse 98, 24114 Kiel 1, +49 431 676689 "Das Z-NETZ geht unter. Uebrigens schon seit acht Jahren." -- Rainer Schaeffner
From: kschulz@iva.k8.rt.bosch.de (Kay Schulz K8/IVA Tel. ++49-7121-35-1341) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: patch Message-ID: <201@boschrt.rt.bosch.de.bosch.de> Date: 16 Aug 93 06:40:55 GMT Sender: news@rt.bosch.de.bosch.de Organization: Robert Bosch GmbH., Reutlingen, Germany. Hi I am looking for the gnu patch program. I am unable to compile it under NSI 3.1 The configure script can't find the c library and the preprocessor and I don't know where they are and how they are called Help! --- /* Kay Schulz kschulz@iva.k8.rt.bosch.de */ /* ab 28.08.1993: kschulz@gold.t-informatik.ba-stuttgart.de */
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mgb@moksha.uucp (Michael Branton) Subject: Re: Scanner/software combo for fax service Message-ID: <CBt8ow.6y9@moksha.uucp> Sender: mgb@moksha.uucp (Michael Branton) Organization: Totally Disorganized References: <1993Aug13.132837.23778@cyantic.com> Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1993 17:02:56 GMT In article <1993Aug13.132837.23778@cyantic.com> mark@cyantic.com (Mark T. Dornfeld) writes: > We all know how easy it is to fax from an application in NS, but every so > often, a piece of paper or two needs to be faxed quickly. I'd like to not > have to buy a fax machine, so I thought about hooking up a scanner to my > black next that could be used as fax input. > > Are there any combinations of hardware and software that can perform > this function adequately? I'd also prefer a SCSI interface for the scanner > since both serial ports on my Turbo are presently occupied. > > Thanks > -- > > Mark T. Dornfeld, CYANTIC Systems Voice: (416) 234-9048 > 101 Subway Crescent Suite 2103 Facsimile: (416) 234-0477 > Etobicoke, Ontario, M9B 6K4 CANADA Email: mark@cyantic.com I think the latest version of HSD's scanner software let's you use your scanner act as fax input for outgoing faxes. -- -Michael
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mgb@moksha.uucp (Michael Branton) Subject: Re: Scanner/software combo for fax service Message-ID: <CBtuM8.7qF@moksha.uucp> Sender: mgb@moksha.uucp (Michael Branton) Organization: Totally Disorganized References: <CBt8ow.6y9@moksha.uucp> Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1993 00:56:31 GMT In article <CBt8ow.6y9@moksha.uucp> mgb@moksha.uucp (Michael Branton) writes: > In article <1993Aug13.132837.23778@cyantic.com> mark@cyantic.com (Mark T. > Dornfeld) writes: > > We all know how easy it is to fax from an application in NS, but every so > > often, a piece of paper or two needs to be faxed quickly. I'd like to not > > have to buy a fax machine, so I thought about hooking up a scanner to my > > black next that could be used as fax input. > > > > Are there any combinations of hardware and software that can perform > > this function adequately? I'd also prefer a SCSI interface for the scanner > > since both serial ports on my Turbo are presently occupied. > > > > Thanks > > -- > > > > Mark T. Dornfeld, CYANTIC Systems Voice: (416) 234-9048 > > 101 Subway Crescent Suite 2103 Facsimile: (416) 234-0477 > > Etobicoke, Ontario, M9B 6K4 CANADA Email: mark@cyantic.com > > I think the latest version of HSD's scanner software let's you use your Gad ! I hate it when morons misuse apostrophes ! ^ Where did this guy learn to write ! :-) --- -Michael mgb@moksha.UUCP mgb@stetson.BITNET NeXT mail welcome ! > scanner act as fax input for outgoing faxes. > -- > > > -Michael > -- -Michael
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jpw@sansfoy.lib.Virginia.EDU (John Price-Wilkin) Subject: getting rid of annoying stty (e.g., TIOCGWINSZ) messages Message-ID: <CBtKu6.GDH@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU Organization: University of Virginia Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1993 21:25:18 GMT When I do things like rsh between a NeXT and an RS/6000, I get annoying stty messages about TIOCGWINSZ and TXGETLD. Here's the most recent bunch: stty: TIOCGWINSZ: Operation not supported on socket stty: TXGETLD: Operation not supported on socket Is there any way to avoid getting these messages? What's happening here? jpw@virginia.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jolly@cis.uni-muenchen.de (Patrick Stein) Subject: DAT-Tapedevice && AudioDAT ? Sender: news@informatik.uni-muenchen.de (News System) Message-ID: <CBupuz.L4v@informatik.uni-muenchen.de> Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1993 12:11:23 GMT Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Universitaet Muenchen Does anybody know how to read audiodat-tapes with a NeXT (black) and a DAT-scsi-tapedevice ??? Is there already a hack for such a prob ? --- so long - jolly =================================================================== Jolly alias Patrick Stein = jolly@cis.uni-muenchen.de =================================================================== Rhythm is both - the song's manacle and it's demonic charge. It is the original breath, it is the whisper of unremitting demand. Singer: " What do you still want on me ? - What do you think you can still draw from my lips ? " A: " Exact presence that no fantasy can represent purveyor of the oldest secret alive with the blood that boils again and is pulsing where the rhythm is torn apart." ===================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: stefan@initiera.upnet.se (Stefan Kruger) Subject: dwrite - dread Message-ID: <1993Aug16.130449.14306@sics.se> Sender: news@sics.se Organization: Swedish Institute of Computer Science, Kista Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1993 13:04:49 GMT Hi, if I want to change the Keyboard "language" using dwrite eg: % dwrite NeXT1 Keymap/NextLibrary/Keyboards/USA the mapping does not seem to change. Do I somehow have to tell the system to re-read the defaults data base ? Any help appreciated Stefan Kruger (stefan@initiera.upnet.se) -- .sig under re-construction
From: jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.EDU (Joseph W Reiss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Removed Opener Icons from orst Date: 16 Aug 1993 09:28:15 -0400 Organization: The Ohio State University Sender: daemon@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Message-ID: <9308161327.AA01681@magnusug.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Hello, all. Just wanted to let everyone know that I'm deleting the OpenerTiffs.tar.gz stuff from the submissions directory of orst. Now that Opener 3.1.1 is out and includes these icons, there's no more reason to keep them there as far as I can see. That's it. Joe -- __________ | NeXTMail accepted, but not preferred | |___) | """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" \_/OE | \EISS | Real programmers don't like the "team programming" `---- | concept, unless they are the Chief Programmer.
From: Wolfgang Roeckelein <wolfgang@sirius.WHU-Koblenz.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: SYBASE Woes (was Re: Sybase database available for NSFIP?) Date: 16 Aug 1993 15:38:18 +0200 Organization: Smurf-O-Box Karlsruhe, FRG Sender: root@smurf.sub.org Message-ID: <9308161029.AA02744@sirius.WHU-Koblenz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Original-received: by NeXT Mailer (1.87.1) Pp-warning: Illegal Received field on preceding line > Gupta SQLBase: - Some client software (Parabase); can also use DBKit; Where is the DBKit adaptor available? Thank you all, wolfgang roeckelein --- Dipl.-Wirtsch.-Inf. Tel. +49 261 6509 173 Wolfgang Roeckelein Fax. +49 261 6509 179 WHU Koblenz Burgplatz 2 D-56179 Vallendar Germany
#################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: randall@redfish.atmos.colostate.edu (Dave Randall) Subject: presentation builder (improv) bug Sender: news@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU (News Account) Message-ID: <Aug13.183014.80470@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1993 18:30:14 GMT Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523 i have trouble with presentation builder sometimes (but not always) putting out bad eps files that then can't be imported by other software. does anyone have experience with this and know how to avoid it?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: buchanan@matagh.ncsu.edu (Bob Buchanan) Subject: problems with kermit Message-ID: <1993Aug13.165544.4450@ncsu.edu> Originator: buchanan@guest2.math.ncsu.edu Sender: news@ncsu.edu (USENET News System) Organization: NCSU Mathematics Dept. Distribution: usa Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1993 16:55:44 GMT I have been using C-Kermit 5A(189) ALPHA, 4 June 93, NeXT for modem communications and file transfer. I downloaded the source code for this kermit and built it under NeXTSTEP 3.0. It worked fine. I recently upgraded to NeXTSTEP 3.1 (black) and now when I start kermit I get the following messages: localhost.bob> kermit /dev/cufa: Permission denied Sorry, access to device denied: /dev/cufa ?Sorry, you must SET LINE first C-Kermit 5A(189) ALPHA, 4 June 93, NeXT Type ? or HELP for help C-Kermit> Is this a problem with the permissions and/or ownership of kermit and /dev/cufa OR could this be related to a serial port problem I heard a rumor about under NS3.1? If anyone has a solution or work-around I'd like to hear it. Thanks, Bob Buchanan (Bob_Buchanan@ncsu.edu) For the record these are my permissions: crw------- 1 uucp wheel 11,224 Aug 13 09:34 /dev/cufa -rwxr-xr-x 1 uucp wheel 376832 Jun 20 15:49 /usr/local/bin/kermit* -rwxr-xr-x 1 uucp wheel 32768 Jun 21 22:17 /usr/local/bin/rb* -rwxr-xr-x 1 uucp wheel 32768 Jun 21 22:17 /usr/local/bin/rx* -rwxr-xr-x 1 uucp wheel 32768 Jun 21 22:17 /usr/local/bin/rz* -rwxr-xr-x 1 uucp wheel 40960 Jun 21 22:17 /usr/local/bin/sb* -rwxr-xr-x 1 uucp wheel 40960 Jun 21 22:17 /usr/local/bin/sx* -rwxr-xr-x 1 uucp wheel 40960 Jun 21 22:17 /usr/local/bin/sz* Also, in case it has any effect here is my .kermrc file: set modem hayes set line /dev/cufa set speed 19200 set flow keep set incomplete keep set block 3 set window 3 set receive packet-length 2048 set send packet-length 2048 set dial directory ~/.dialing-dir ; ; send and receive Xmodem, Ymodem, Zmodem macros ; define sx !sx \%1 \%2 \%3 \%4 \%5 \%6 \%7 \%8 \%9 <\v(line) >\v(line) define rx !rx \%1 \%2 \%3 \%4 \%5 \%6 \%7 \%8 \%9 <\v(line) >\v(line) define sb !sb \%1 \%2 \%3 \%4 \%5 \%6 \%7 \%8 \%9 <\v(line) >\v(line) define rb !rb \%1 \%2 \%3 \%4 \%5 \%6 \%7 \%8 \%9 <\v(line) >\v(line) define sz !sz \%1 \%2 \%3 \%4 \%5 \%6 \%7 \%8 \%9 <\v(line) >\v(line) define rz !rz \%1 \%2 \%3 \%4 \%5 \%6 \%7 \%8 \%9 <\v(line) >\v(line) -- Bob Buchanan 919-515-2382 (work) 919-776-7371 (home) buchanan@math.ncsu.edu Math Dept, NCSU Box 8205, Raleigh, NC 27695-8205
From: jmb@merit.edu (Jim Blum) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: NEXTSTEP is a memory HOG! Date: 13 Aug 1993 19:16:38 GMT Organization: Merit Network, Inc. Ann Arbor, MI Distribution: world Message-ID: <24gpam$2ut@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> Keywords: NESTSTEP MEMORY HOG DISK SPACE I just ran a ps -aux on my 486/50DX2 with 20 megs of ram. Guess what? the window server takes up 30% of the system memory! Between the window server, the kernel, and other little things my system uses over 60% of its memory! I could understand NEXTSTEP needing 8 megs to run, but over 12 megs of RAM just to load the system? Someone needs to trim this thing down to size. There is one other very intresting thing. The CPU utilization for the whole system was under 25%. Nice to see that NEXTSTEP dosen't really eat CPU time and memory. jmb@merit.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: kevins@bmd.com Subject: Re: Virus software? Message-ID: <1993Aug13.164058.23003@bmd.com> Sender: kevins@bmd.com (Kevin Solie) Organization: benchMark Developments, Inc. References: <23ub2m$iiq@panix.com> Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1993 16:40:58 GMT In article <23ub2m$iiq@panix.com> randyc@panix.com (Randy Clyde) writes: > Does anyone know about anti-virus software for Next's? Please post or > E-mail any information. I would prefer software available over the net. hehe... heheh.... hehehehhahahahhehehe..... -- I'll cross my heart and hope to die but the needle's already in my eye. Kevin Solie -- I'll cross my heart and hope to die but the needle's already in my eye.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bff@csn.org (Brendan Forsyth) Subject: File Selection In Browser Message-ID: <CBprun.Ev1@csn.org> Sender: news@csn.org (news) Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc. Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1993 20:06:22 GMT Is there a way to have the Browser display filenames based upon a filter? eg. *.wkz or *.ps, etc. Thanks Brendan
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: tim@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu (Tim Pugh) Subject: Re: Screen Calibration Message-ID: <CBpIKC.Co6@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu> Organization: Johns Hopkins Continuing Professional Programs References: <1993Aug12.125610.71116@cc.usu.edu> Distribution: usa Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1993 16:45:48 GMT hcole@tumbleweed.idec.sdl.usu.edu (Howard R. Cole) writes: >About two weeks ago someone posted that there was >an application put on the archives called Calibrator.app >which could be used to fine tune the screen colors. >Where is it? I've looked through sonata and cs.orst with >no luck. >Any help appreciated. >Howard Cole >USU Space Dynamics >hcole@tumbleweed.idec.sdl.usu.edu Include me in also. I was unable to locate this very desirable tool. --Tim -- Tim Pugh |MicroCALL Services tim@aplcenmp.apl.JHU.EDU |8713 Briarcroft Lane |Laurel, MD 20708-1355 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: raf@shell.portal.com (Man Wei Tam) Subject: PV-WAVE to reach NEXTSTEP Message-ID: <CBpvFJ.Lzu@unix.portal.com> Sender: news@unix.portal.com Organization: Portal Communications Company -- 408/973-9111 (voice) 408/973-8091 (data) Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1993 21:23:41 GMT Okay, I can resist it any longer, here's the news - Within the past month or so, a large financial company, has been negotiating with Precision-Visuals, to port PV-WAVE to NEXSTEP. I belive the port will be for all NEXTSTEP hardware, including the new HP-PA-RISC version. This is very good news for NeXT and is another vindication that the platform is now being taken a lot more seriously. Don't pester Precision-Visuals.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: johannes@scribes.english.uiuc.edu (John Block Friedman) Subject: Filemaster & Scanning Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1993 21:14:40 GMT Message-ID: <CBpv0H.9Dp@news.cso.uiuc.edu> Sender: usenet@news.cso.uiuc.edu (Net Noise owner) Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Has anyone had an experience with Teledia Filemaster and does anyone know of a program which allows Microtek slide scanner 1850S to hook up to Next (black)? Thanks much.
From: jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Joseph W Reiss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: .ps icon mangled Date: 14 Aug 1993 00:26:29 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <24hbfl$8h2@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> References: <CBM6sD.5K4@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> <19073@news.duke.edu> Since several people have expressed interest in my NeXT style, color/mono Opener icons, I've uploaded them to cs.orst.edu. The files are OpenerTiffs.tar.gz and OpenerTiffs.README. Speaking of the README, here it is... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- These icons were design to replace the icons used in Opener 3.1. I "borrowed" the .tar, .Z and .ps icons from the various NeXT apps and modified them to go along with the various formats that Opener supports. To use these icons, simply copy them into the Opener.app directory and recompile (you might want to back up the old icons first, just in case). For those without the developers version, I've sent email to the people responsible for Opener 3.1 about getting these icons included in the next official release. Hopefully that'll come through and this archive will be unnecessary. But in the meantime... Enjoy, Joe Reiss ----------------------------------------------------------------------- If/when the icons become "official", they'll also be added to the info panels and help files for Opener, the way I've got them on my system. This is really just a matter of a bit of drag and drop work, and anybody who is familiar with that kinda thing can do it without too much trouble. See ya round! -- __________ | NeXTMail accepted, but not preferred | |___) | """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" \_/OE | \EISS | The Prime Directive forbids our interfering with a `---- | developing flame-war. But that's never stopped us.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: duane@shell.portal.com (Duane Takamine) Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP is a memory HOG! Message-ID: <CBq7Dr.74@unix.portal.com> Keywords: NESTSTEP MEMORY HOG DISK SPACE Sender: news@unix.portal.com Organization: Portal Communications Company -- 408/973-9111 (voice) 408/973-8091 (data) References: <24gpam$2ut@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1993 01:41:50 GMT In article <24gpam$2ut@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> jmb@merit.edu (Jim Blum) writes: >I just ran a ps -aux on my 486/50DX2 with 20 megs of ram. Guess what? >the window server takes up 30% of the system memory! Between the >window server, the kernel, and other little things my system uses over >60% of its memory! I could understand NEXTSTEP needing 8 megs to run, but >over 12 megs of RAM just to load the system? Someone needs to trim this thing >down to size. > >There is one other very intresting thing. The CPU utilization for the whole >system was under 25%. Nice to see that NEXTSTEP dosen't really eat CPU time >and memory. > >jmb@merit.edu > Is it possible that the window server was using the memory just because it was available, not because it "needed" it? Would the memory drop if you had less system memory, or if you began launching lots of apps that themselves needed lots of memory. I would call it a memory hog only if it took the memory, and then wouldn't give it back on request. Otherwise, its just good swap management. Duane -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Duane Takamine duane@shell.portal.com Island CD Creations Madd Hacker Productions Home of the Sound Site CDROM - nearly 1400 mods on disc
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: thompson@netcom.com (Eric Thompson) Subject: How can I get an image as a background on the screen? Message-ID: <thompsonCBqAHs.9LD@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1993 02:49:04 GMT Is there a program that will put an image in the background of the screen? (Like 'xloadimage -onroot' for X?) thanks, Eric
To: gnu-gcc-bug@cis.ohio-state.edu Distribution: world From: dkolbly@cs.utexas.edu (Donovan Kolbly) Newsgroups: gnu.gcc.bug,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Followup-To: gnu.gcc.bug Date: 13 Aug 1993 00:45:54 -0500 Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin Message-ID: <gnusenetm6makiINN21c@ozona.cs.utexas.edu> Keywords: gcc-2.4.5, m68k Subject: gcc 2.4.5 bug w.r.t. using a d-reg to hold a pointer There appears to be a bug in gcc 2.4.5 for m68k (NeXT) machines, when choosing to declare global register variables. In particular, a reproducible gcc-crash occurs in the appended program. The trigger appears to be when you want to treat the value in a (global variable) data register as a pointer. It only shows up in this particular program when compiling optimized; compiling unoptimized causes a regular call to be made to gvec_read(), so the fact that it's arg is from a data reg is not a problem. I also know this is a non-problem on a SPARC, presumably because it has fully general purpose register values. Sadly, I don't know enough about the workings of gcc to track down a possible fix. I can use address regs for now, but they are scarce on an m68k, so I'd rather not. Anyway, this particular var is often used as data, so it just makes more sense to put it in a data reg. ----------------- transcript --------------- skye:runtime> gcc -v Reading specs from /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/m68k-next/2.4.5/specs gcc version 2.4.5 skye:runtime> gcc -Wall -O breako2.c breako2.c: In function `multiLoop': breako2.c:25: internal error--unrecognizable insn: (insn/i 12 10 16 (set (reg:SI 30) (mem:SI (reg/v:SI 7 d7))) -1 (nil) (nil)) gcc: Internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 6 skye:runtime> -------------------- program -------------- typedef unsigned obj; register obj valueReg asm( #ifndef DONT_FAIL "d7" #else "a3" #endif ); static inline obj gvec_read( obj target, unsigned offset ) { return *(obj *)(target + offset); } static inline obj car( obj a ) { return gvec_read(a,0); } void *multiLoop( void ) { valueReg = car( valueReg ); return (void *)0; } ------------------------------------------- --- Donovan Kolbly dkolbly@cs.utexas.edu
From: cpesch@markov.fmi.uni-passau.de (Christoph Pesch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXT-TeX questions Date: 16 Aug 1993 14:16:49 GMT Organization: University of Passau, Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <CPESCH.93Aug16161649@markov.fmi.uni-passau.de> Hi! 1.) Can someone tell me if the sources for NeXT-TeX are available and from where? (I want to patch it so it understands the environment variable TEXFONTS_SUBDIR like the normal unixtex.) 2.) (Under NeXTStep 3.1) TeXview does not read in the environment-variables TEXPKS, etc. from ~/.cshrc as described in the manual. It always uses the standard pathes no matter which value TEXPKS has (even if you start it from a shell). Has someone else discovered this or is it just a problem of my installation? I fixed it the following way, but I am not sure if this is the "correct" way: I got the source code of texview3.a4 from ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de and found the following lines in the file initialize.c: void initialize() { char *getenv() ; void *mymalloc() ; (void)tempbuf(512L) ; setenvvars() ; configure() ; getdefaults("config.ps") ; getdefaults(0L) ; reportnewdpi() ; } After setenvvars() ; the values are correct and after getdefaults(0L) they are set back to the defaults. So one way is to remove getdefaults(0L) the other to repeat the call of setenvvars() after getdefaults(0L). Any suggestions what getdefaults(0L) is for and which fix is the better one? (I made a patch so TeXview can read in the variable TEXFONTS_SUBDIR (see (1.)!) too. I used sourcecode from dvips to do this. If someone is interested in it, I will mail it.) 3.) In the NeXTTeX-manual the substitution in the environment variable TEXPKS is described as %n --> fontname. In older versions of TeXview and dvips it was %f --> fontname. The new versions (NeXTStep 3.1) of dvips (and TeXview after patching it (see (2.)!)) still use %f --> fontname and do NOT understand %n!!! Is this a bug in dvips and TeXview or an error in the manual? Thanks in advance, Christoph Pesch (cpesch@markov.fmi.uni-passau.de --- NO NeXT-Mail please!)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: bstone@acs.ucalgary.ca (Blake Stone) Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP is a memory HOG! Message-ID: <Aug16.144355.25083@acs.ucalgary.ca> Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1993 14:43:55 GMT References: <24gpam$2ut@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> <Aug15.073135.23769@acs.ucalgary.ca> <1993Aug15.154903.25965@black.toppoint.de> Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta Keywords: NESTSTEP MEMORY HOG DISK SPACE > /NextDeveloper/Apps/ProcessMonitor.app, Processes window, > Select a process, Control Inspector, Select mach memory from > the Popup, In pages box: click each page and check owner and > state or look at the summary above. That was my recollection as well, and I checked it while writing my post. Oddly enough, ProcessMonitor seems to have lost the "Mach Memory" inspector under 3.1. Can anyone else verify this? -- Blake W. Stone | DKW Systems Corporation Chief Technical Officer | A N[EXTSTEP,eXT[STEP,step,Step]] VAR bstone@acs.ucalgary.ca | | ... couldn't have been ME
From: dkk@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (david.k.kallman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: .ps icon mangled Message-ID: <CBuwDw.E2v@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> Date: 16 Aug 93 14:32:18 GMT References: <CBM6sD.5K4@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.bugs Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories Folks, Thanks!! The resolution to my post last week was real quick (maybe it was in the works?). See the announcement of Opener_3.1.1 in comp.sys.next.announce. Thanks to the current authors of Opener.app, Denise Blakeley and Subrata Sircar, and Joseph Reiss for the new icons. Dave Kallman -- ---- Dave Kallman, AT&T, 480 Red Hill Rd., Middletown, NJ 07748 d_k_kallman@att.com, (908)615-2989, fax: (908)615-2507
From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: problems with kermit Message-ID: <70386@mimsy.umd.edu> Date: 16 Aug 93 15:06:37 GMT References: <1993Aug13.165544.4450@ncsu.edu> Sender: news@mimsy.umd.edu Distribution: usa Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742 In article <1993Aug13.165544.4450@ncsu.edu> buchanan@matagh.ncsu.edu (Bob Buchanan) writes: > when I start kermit I get the following messages: > /dev/cufa: Permission denied > For the record these are my permissions: > crw------- 1 uucp wheel 11,224 Aug 13 09:34 /dev/cufa this is fine > -rwxr-xr-x 1 uucp wheel 376832 Jun 20 15:49 /usr/local/bin/kermit* here's the problem, su to root and then chmod u+s /usr/local/bin/kermit -- Alex Blakemore alex@cs.umd.edu NeXT mail accepted -------------------------------------------------------------- "Without an engaged and motivated human being at the keyboard, the computer is just another dumb box." William Raspberry
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: obrooks@worf.hssc.ksc.nasa.gov (Oscar Brooks) Subject: Printer Banner Page Help! Message-ID: <1993Aug16.151014.28284@dale.ksc.nasa.gov> Keywords: Printer, Banner Page Sender: news@dale.ksc.nasa.gov Organization: NASA Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1993 15:10:14 GMT I have successfully setup my printer so that it produces a banner page for each printout. But how do you stop it from producing multiple banner pages whnen you request two or more copies of the same document? I would appreciate some help, we want to save some trees, O ------------------------------------------------ Oscar Brooks Mail Code: DL-DSD-24 Kennedy Space Center, Fla. 32899 Internet: obrooks@dale.ksc.nasa.gov
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) Subject: Re: Removed Opener Icons from orst Message-ID: <1993Aug16.164622.5025@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: Stanford University References: <9308161327.AA01681@magnusug.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Date: Mon, 16 Aug 93 16:46:22 GMT Joseph W Reiss writes > Just wanted to let everyone know that I'm deleting the > OpenerTiffs.tar.gz stuff from the submissions directory of orst. > Now that Opener 3.1.1 is out and includes these icons, there's > no more reason to keep them there as far as I can see. Amazing. Within one week of the initial complaints, somebody independently provides a solution, which is then almost instantly folded into the shipping product (which is still free!). Wow. Why I'm working on a NeXT, reason # 52342404 -- - Stefano Pagiola Food Research Institute, Stanford University spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged) spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc From: eric@whyanext.whyanext.com (Eric Schwartz) Subject: Bizarre request for NeXTmail attachment fans.. Message-ID: <ERIC.93Aug16111526@whyanext.whyanext.com> Sender: news@unix.portal.com Organization: WhyaNeXT, Inc. Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1993 19:15:26 GMT Hi, I am creating a NeXTmail birthday card for my girlfriend who is about to return from vacation. I'm trying to make a really snazzy message with lots of attachments - sounds, embedded TIFFs, and other applications that do interesting things when you click 'em. I'm also collecting voice clips (for Lip Service) via telephone from friends of hers that don't live nearby, so she can listen to birthday greetings from those people. (By the way, does anyone know how to change the lip TIFF that the Lip Service messages use, on a one-by-one basis?) This may seem like a bizarre request, but as Raquel (aka 'Rocky') is a net user and e-mail personality, I'd like to collect a few NeXTmail birthday greetings from people around the country and hopefully around the world. I don't think it really matters that she will not know these people, since it would be meaningful enough just to know that people would take the time to do something like this. (Do people really send anonymous people strange, entertaining e-mail messages on their birthdays? People do.) Also, I'm just beginning to poke around with my MIDI keyboard again, which is attached to my serial port B. Can anyone send me some kind of MIDI demo that would play a MIDI tune on the keyboard, or at least as a normal sound (ideally "Happy Birthday" of course!) when you double click it? Although I can't ask for the world, I would again be very grateful and impressed if a talented programmer could throw together a real quick thing to play a MIDI file on serial port B, if such a thing doesn't already exist. And if you really get a kick out of this idea and have a bunch of people around the computer when you're really bored, sing Happy Birthday to Rocky and send it to me for inclusion in the message! Thanks a lot, and if you have any problems with my message being inappropriate to this newsgroup or something, please send mail to me and not back to the group. Send contributions to the birthday card to me via NeXTmail: eric@whyanext.com. I'll be sure to include them. :-) Eric -- Eric Schwartz eric@whyanext.com (NeXTmail spoken here) Have you ever run into someone who was gruntled, ruly, or peccable?
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.software From: borris@boba.rhein-main.de (Borris Balzer) Subject: SoftPC-Questions Message-ID: <1993Aug16.171632.2077@boba.rhein-main.de> Sender: borris@boba.rhein-main.de Organization: Borris Balzer - DeskTopPublishing Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1993 17:16:32 GMT Hi there, now I've found the demo-version of SoftPC on my NeXT3.1 CD and installed it logged-in as "root". And the troubles started: Logged-in as a normal user, it seems to be, the "new" SoftPC irritates my old one (version 2.05). The old one isnt't any longer able to recognize the virtual disks - because it tries to get acces to the new ones which are installed at /root and there's no read/write-permission for normal users. Further it seems that a "root-installed" SoftPC is just usuable for "root" and not for other users The workaround might be to erase the new SoftPC from my disk - but It might be nice to own a licensed version of SoftPC for me. So before I'll buy this stuff I would like to ask other SoftPC-users (or insignia): Is SoftPC3.0/Windows really incompatible to SoftPC2.05? Do I really need to buy one SoftPC-license for each user at my NeXT? (it seems to be cheaper, to buy a no-name-PC for each user running Windows!). An upgrade from 2.X to SoftPC3.0 Professional here in Germany is about 300,- Deutschmarks. An upgrade from SoftPC2.X to SoftPC/Windows is about 800,- Deutschmarks. The difference fits exactly to a new Windows-license. But I own this already. So ist there a chance just to buy SoftPC Professional and installing Windows from my Windows installation-disks? And at least: Does anyboy know the e-mail-address of insignia? Thanks in advance for your answers - Borris - (I noticed it: my English grows better and better by reading and wirting news. But the sentence ist still neccessary: Please excuse my bad English - it isn't my native language.) -- borris@boba.rhein-main.de ist: Borris Balzer - Kennedyallee 34 D-60596 Frankfurt am Main - Tel +49-69-639266 - Fax +49-69-6312324
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc From: andersen@reality.glv.com (Robert Andersen) Subject: SQL Server FOR NSI, SYBASE Compatible? Message-ID: <1993Aug16.172839.7892@glv.uucp> Sender: usenet@glv.uucp Organization: Encompass Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1993 17:28:39 GMT Subject line says it all. I need to run an SQL server on an Intel box that closely resembles SYBASE, as long as it uses a common SQL it should be fine. Does anyone know of NSI SQL servers that fit this bill? --- Robert John Andersen andersen@reality.glv.com Encompass 919-460-3285
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: peter@corsica (Peter Eisch) Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP is a memory HOG! Message-ID: <CBvEF5.G7x@news.cis.umn.edu> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: University of Minnesota Hospital and Clinic, Labratory Information Services References: <24gpam$2ut@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> <Aug15.073135.23769@acs.ucalgary.ca> <1993Aug15.154903.25965@black.toppoint.de> <Aug16.144355.25083@acs.ucalgary.ca> Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1993 21:00:09 GMT The Mach Memory is indeed gone in 3.1. Running the 3.0 version of the app on 3.1 yields an alert panel that simply states: Mach Memory Inspector There is a problem with the Mach Memory Server Can't inspect Mach Memory OK bummer, eh? What's worse is that the info panel wears the same version number [2.0 (v19)]. A fine example of the need for an integrated version control system. peter Blake Stone (bstone@acs.ucalgary.ca) wrote: : > /NextDeveloper/Apps/ProcessMonitor.app, Processes window, : > Select a process, Control Inspector, Select mach memory from : > the Popup, In pages box: click each page and check owner and : > state or look at the summary above. : That was my recollection as well, and I checked it while writing : my post. Oddly enough, ProcessMonitor seems to have lost the : "Mach Memory" inspector under 3.1. Can anyone else verify this? : -- : Blake W. Stone | DKW Systems Corporation : Chief Technical Officer | A N[EXTSTEP,eXT[STEP,step,Step]] VAR : bstone@acs.ucalgary.ca | : | ... couldn't have been ME -- Bureaucratically speaking, I am a subversive to obstructionists... peter@tahiti.umhc.umn.edu (Peter Eisch)
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Quick Guide to the comp.sys.next.* newsgroups Date: 16 Aug 1993 17:36:46 -0400 Organization: Next Announcements Message-ID: <24oulc$gdi@digifix.digifix.com> The current menagerie: comp.sys.next.advocacy This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. comp.sys.next.announce Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. comp.sys.next.bugs A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well. comp.sys.next.hardware Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. comp.sys.next.marketplace NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. comp.sys.next.misc For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! comp.sys.next.programmer Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. comp.sys.next.software This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. comp.sys.next.sysadmin Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Written by: Eric P. Scott eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU Minor editing: Scott Anguish
From: annard@theborg.stack.urc.tue.nl (Annard Brouwer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Wanted: freeware/shareware icon editor Date: 16 Aug 1993 19:42:53 GMT Organization: the Borg Distribution: world Message-ID: <24onvt$rg@theborg.stack.urc.tue.nl> Help, I'm going to have to edit lot's of icons and after having edited a few I already am beginning to hate IconBuilder... Are there any proper utilities out there to do this? Thanks, Annard -- Annard Brouwer annard@stack.urc.tue.nl (NeXTmail appreciated) People? You can forget it.
From: ratlifc@ctron.com (Christian A. Ratliff) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.sgi.apps Subject: RTF and/or RTFD Viewer for Xwindows? Date: 16 Aug 1993 22:37:05 GMT Organization: Cabletron Systems, Inc. Sender: ratlifc@alexander (Christian A. Ratliff) Distribution: world Message-ID: <24p26hINN80i@ctron-news.ctron.com> Keywords: NeXT, RTF, X11, RTFD Does anyone know of an RTF/RTFD previewer for X11? I am running on an SGI Indigo so I don't have OpenLook. I did find an OpenLook RTF viewer some time ago, but that is obviously useless to me. thanks, christian --------- Christian Ratliff Cabletron Systems, Inc. EDGE System Developer Rochester, NH 03867 ratlifc@ctron.com <NeXTmail OK> Work: (603) 337-1209 "I'm a NeXTSTEP man; I'm an SGI guy." Home: (207) 780-NeXT Nobody at Cabletron knows, approves of, or recalls my opinions.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: giddings@whitewater.chem.wisc.edu (Michael Giddings) Subject: Appsoft Image Swapfile Explosion Message-ID: <1993Aug16.212506.4908@pslu1.psl.wisc.edu> Sender: news@pslu1.psl.wisc.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Physical Sciences Lab, UW-Madison Date: Mon, 16 Aug 93 21:25:06 GMT I just started up Appsoft Image (basically for the first time), and loaded in a 1 MB B&W image. Within two minutes, the swapfile had grown from 20MB to 64 MB, and the system was unuseable. A reboot and a fresh try (NO other apps running) didn't help. The swapfile grew to the max (64MB) again almost immediately. Is it just me, or is this program unuseable due to it's blatant memory hogging? Does anyone have any suggestions (before I send the program back?) Thanks, -- Michael Giddings | DNA sequencing technologies giddings@whitewater.chem.wisc.edu | Artificial Intelligence giddings@cs.wisc.edu | Sciences NeXT User Group founder |---------\-----------/|\------------/---------|
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: verket@venice.sedd.trw.com (Paul Verket) Subject: Re: NewsGrazer Message-ID: <1993Aug17.003424.10507@venice.sedd.trw.com> Organization: TRW Systems Engineering & Development Division, Carson, CA References: <1993Aug15.035142.10584@venice.sedd.trw.com> <24klot$7jg@digifix.digifix.com> Distribution: na Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1993 00:34:24 GMT Scott Anguish (sanguish@digifix.com) wrote: : Paul Verket writes : > I've looked at the nntp stream that NewsGrazer produces and it's just : > inefficient! It pops the server for the entire (remote) active file upon : > startup whether you have the news groups panel in browser mode or not. : > : > The list view can get by with the data from the "group" nntp command run : > against each subscribed group. : Paul... : That would work, but you would lose the ability to automatically be : able to access new newsgroups. I agree that there are points where popping the remote server for the active file is warrented. I was just argueing against doing it at _every_ startup. I think of it as a form of lazy evaluation. Paul Verket (NeXTmail ok)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: tom@ennex1.eng.utsa.edu (Tom Arnow) Subject: Help! System won't boot with NeXT Dimension Board Message-ID: <1993Aug17.001038.23588@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> Sender: news@ringer.cs.utsa.edu Organization: Univ of Texas at San Antonio Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1993 00:10:38 GMT Systen gives message "Init exited 1" and dies with NexT Dimension board installed. This comes right after "Master CPU on Slot 0" Works when NeXT dimension is removed. Please help me if you can! Thank Tom Arnow
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: haker@whitewater.chem.wisc.edu (M Haker) Subject: Re: Slip/Kermit for NS-intel Message-ID: <1993Aug16.221001.5479@pslu1.psl.wisc.edu> Sender: news@pslu1.psl.wisc.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Physical Sciences Lab, UW-Madison References: <1993Aug9.220856.11638@pslu1.psl.wisc.edu> Date: Mon, 16 Aug 93 22:10:01 GMT In article <1993Aug9.220856.11638@pslu1.psl.wisc.edu> haker@whitewater.chem.wisc.edu (M Haker) writes: > In the meantime, I'm trying to get kermit working on one > of our NS/I machines. I've had problems which I believe > to be related to a bad cable. Is the serial driver working > at all or am I completely spinning my wheels trying to get > a modem working on this machine? > thanks generally for the responses. I just wanted to respond that I seem to have gotten a 2400 v.42bis modem working with the serial line set at 9600 baud with kermit on a NS-intel machine. My problem was the cable. So it seems the serial driver isn't completely broken. Mike Haker
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Appsoft Image Swapfile Explosion Message-ID: <1993Aug16.192615.71286@cc.usu.edu> From: dayne@timberwolf.c1a.sdl.usu.edu (Dayne Medlyn) Date: 16 Aug 93 19:26:14 MDT References: <1993Aug16.212506.4908@pslu1.psl.wisc.edu> In article <1993Aug16.212506.4908@pslu1.psl.wisc.edu> writes: > I just started up Appsoft Image (basically for the first time), and loaded in a > 1 MB B&W image. Within two minutes, the swapfile had grown from 20MB to 64 MB, > and the system was unuseable. A reboot and a fresh try (NO other apps running) > didn't help. The swapfile grew to the max (64MB) again almost immediately. > > Is it just me, or is this program unuseable due to it's blatant memory hogging? > Does anyone have any suggestions (before I send the program back?) > > Thanks, > -- > Michael Giddings | DNA sequencing technologies > giddings@whitewater.chem.wisc.edu | Artificial Intelligence > giddings@cs.wisc.edu | Sciences NeXT User Group founder > |---------\-----------/|\------------/---------| We had the same problem. Go into the /etc/swaptab file and edit the entry for the swapfile from: /private/vm/swapfile lowat=16777216 # 16 Meg low water mark to: /private/vm/swapfile lowat=16777216, compress # 16 Meg low water mark The story is, if your ram is less then (I believe it is) 12 Mb for mono-station and 20 Mb for color-station, the default for the /etc/swaptab is compressed, but if you have more than the above amounts, the default is uncompressed. By specifying 'compressed' the swap is more efficient, because there is less to swap (or so the manual says). in general, I have seen it to be true. Hope that helps. Dayne Medlyn SDL Utah State University dayne@cc.usu.edu
From: alevine@ucsd.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: PhotoAlbum.app and multiple archives of slides. Date: 17 Aug 1993 02:34:32 GMT Organization: The Avant-Garde of the Now, Ltd. Distribution: world Message-ID: <24pg3oINN31k@network.ucsd.edu> Hello! I have a Photo CD containing a couple rolls of slides I had scanned to a single directory. PhotoAlbum.app (NS 3.1, black hardware) opens all the stored pix just fine. What I want to know is, can I or can I not have another roll scanned to the same disk and expect to view it with PhotoAlbum.app, on a NeXT (Sony) CD ROM drive, and a NeXTStation Color. I understand that there are (were) some issues regarding multisession incompatibilities, but I have no idea how serious they are. Can anyone enlighten me? -- Alexander Levine Department of Philosophy alevine@ucsd.edu 0302, UCSD NeXTMail fine La Jolla, CA 92093 ************************************************ Disclaimer: I am responsible for all opinions expressed by anyone at any time.
From: ins559n@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (Andrew Bulhak) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,alt.fan.bill-gates,comp.os.linux Subject: Re: From your friends at UNIXWorld Date: 15 Aug 1993 16:20:47 GMT Organization: People in a Position to Know, Inc. Distribution: world,happynet Message-ID: <24lnov$e81@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> References: <24eddtINNk4b@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu> Kevin S Ho (ksh@prl.ufl.edu) wrote: : : |> : |> >It literally has prolonged the : |> >life of my machine. I don't use X, as I don't have quite the memory for it, : |> >but if I got 8MB instead of 4, I'd be all set. : : ROTFL ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) : I have 8 megs, I'm choking back the tears. Try running X, emacs, a compile or 2 : and Xtank and watch it swap! My apologies if I have already mentioned this; at the moment I am running Linux, X386, XView, olvwm, an xterm, a clock and Seyon. I often run xv and gcc. My computer: a 16MHz 386sx with 4 megabytes of RAM; Linux has 50Mb of disk space plus 8Mb swap space. Sure it isn't as zippy as, say, a DECStation, but it is very usable. OS/2 2.0, by comparison, thrashed constantly, took 30 seconds to draw a window and periodically switched into text mode to display the "No swap space; do not ignore this message" error message. OS/2 lasted a total of one day before I nuked it. Linux, however, appears to be much more efficient and usable (perhaps it's because of the tried-and-tested UNIX formula) than OS/2, and probably than Windows/NT. Once the DOS emulator is improved a bit (I/O handling added, direct console I/O in text mode and direct [as opposed to xterm-based] display in X) and the Windows emulator is released (apparently they have it loading and relocating Windows binaries), Linux will be able to give IBM and Microsoft a run for their money. +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Andrew Bulhak | | | acb@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au | "I'm sorry Mr. Shergold, but you know the | | Monash Uni, Clayton, | rules -- no can tabs, no dialysis." | | Victoria, Australia | | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NewsGrazer Date: 16 Aug 1993 22:51:02 -0400 Organization: Digital Fix Development Distribution: na Message-ID: <24ph2m$hgf@digifix.digifix.com> References: <1993Aug17.003424.10507@venice.sedd.trw.com> Paul Verket writes > Scott Anguish (sanguish@digifix.com) wrote: > : Paul Verket writes > : > I've looked at the nntp stream that NewsGrazer produces and it's just > : > inefficient! It pops the server for the entire (remote) active file upon > : > startup whether you have the news groups panel in browser mode or not. > : > > : > The list view can get by with the data from the "group" nntp command run > : > against each subscribed group. > > : Paul... > > : That would work, but you would lose the ability to automatically be > : able to access new newsgroups. > > I agree that there are points where popping the remote server for the > active file is warrented. I was just argueing against doing it at > _every_ startup. > > I think of it as a form of lazy evaluation. I would say that you are probably right. I've actually been giving this alot of thought over the past few days. There is a NewGroups command, which would give you that functionality without having to get the whole shipload every time. Unfortunately, I don't have the head for trying to write the NNTP portion of a newsreader by myself. I've looked through the NewsBase code, and well, its difficult to understand. Ideally what we need is a NewsProtocol to be defined. And to have a bundle or a DBKit adapter that would actually do the article and header fetching. If you want to read from flat files stored on your own drive, then you use FlatAdaptor. If you want NNTP, NNTPAdaptor. Bundles seem like they would be an excellent way to go. Drop in Feed bundles for NNTP or Flat files. or MBOX files. Drop in an Address Book bundle that can be user written and customized as long as it obeys a protocol. Drop in Decoder Bundles for NEWSGRAZER, NEXTMAIL, MIME, smart bundles to deal with uuencoded bits and postscript peices. Drop in Encoder Bundles for NEWSGRAZER, NEXTMAIL, MIME, bundles that are smart enough to compress any TIFF files before hand, if you just drop in a Postscript file, to give you the option of including it in more of a shar format so that the non-Newsies would still have easy access, but the NewsFeeders would still be presented with a draggable Icon. Smart bundles that will hide the PGP signature if it is included, and automatically verify the integrity of the article. I have literally dozens of implementation ideas, many more at the conceptual level than the functionality level. If you want to discuss any of this, drop me a line. I'll set up a mailing list if there is interest. If you want to write code, the DEFINATELY contact me. -- - Scott Anguish - sanguish@digifix.com (NextMail) next-announce@digifix.com (comp.sys.next.announce submissions)
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Wanted: freeware/shareware icon editor Date: 16 Aug 1993 22:55:37 -0400 Organization: Digital Fix Development Distribution: world Message-ID: <24phb9$hgl@digifix.digifix.com> References: <24onvt$rg@theborg.stack.urc.tue.nl> Annard Brouwer writes > Help, I'm going to have to edit lot's of icons and after having edited a few I > already am beginning to hate IconBuilder... Are there any proper utilities out > there to do this? There appears to be a real shortage of Icon software. There is IconBuilder that comes with 3.0 3.1. You can apparently get Icon.app working, but seems to step forwards, one step back. Commercially there is IconMaker from Blue Sky - Tony Austin is the author, austin@netcom.com (from memory, so use with caution). Its a little pricy, but the ad looks good. Thats really about it. From there you go way up scale. WetPaint.app... All the goodies, all the settings. Image.app TIFFany.app (I know I'm leaving someone out... my apologies) -- - Scott Anguish - sanguish@digifix.com (NextMail) next-announce@digifix.com (comp.sys.next.announce submissions)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP is a memory HOG! Message-ID: <1993Aug17.030051.21418@csus.edu> Sender: news@csus.edu Organization: San Francisco State University References: <24gpam$2ut@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> <Aug15.073135.23769@acs.ucalgary.ca> <1993Aug15.154903.25965@black.toppoint.de> <Aug16.144355.25083@acs.ucalgary.ca> <CBvEF5.G7x@news.cis.umn.edu> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1993 03:00:51 GMT [not crossposted to comp.sys.next.misc] In article <CBvEF5.G7x@news.cis.umn.edu> peter@tahiti.umhc.umn.edu (Peter Eisch) writes: >The Mach Memory is indeed gone in 3.1. Running the 3.0 version of the >app on 3.1 yields an alert panel that simply states: > >Mach Memory Inspector > >There is a problem with the Mach Memory Server >Can't inspect Mach Memory What happens if you copy /usr/lib/{installKM,km_info_reloc} from 3.0? -=EPS=-
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NewsGrazer Date: 17 Aug 1993 04:25:43 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <24pmk7$gl3@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <1993Aug15.035142.10584@venice.sedd.trw.com> verket@venice.sedd.trw.com (Paul Verket) writes: > I've looked at the nntp stream that NewsGrazer produces and it's > just inefficient! It pops the server for the entire (remote) > active file upon startup whether you have the news groups panel > in browser mode or not. > > The list view can get by with the data from the "group" nntp > command run against each subscribed group. From the "For what it's worth" department: Back when Jason was working on NewsGrazer, my usenet administrator was upset about how NewsGrazer pounded the usenet machine when it was used over an NNTP connection. Not wanting to get shot by him, I contacted Jason, and Jason traded messages with the usenet administrator. The NNTP traffic you see now is based (to some extent) on advice from that administrator. The administrator was Dave Lawrence, alias "Tale". I'm not sure how much work Jason had to do to satisfy Tale, but I am sure that Tale is fairly well versed in the operation of usenet hubs... It may be that what is efficient for NNTP traffic is inefficient for the hub which is processing the commands. It may also be that the optimization was tuned for my usage (following 40-something usenet groups), my network connection (ethernet), and my preference settings at the time. I know Dave was a lot happier in a short amount of time, so I can't say that the optimization done applies to a wide range of NNTP usage. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: warren@cyberspace.com (Warren Victorian) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: What are these? Date: 16 Aug 1993 21:34:03 -0700 Organization: (CYBERSPACE) Public Internet 206.286.1600 Message-ID: <24pn3r$1l9@cyberspace.com> Cc: I found these wierd international phone sex lines in a magazine the otherday and I was just wondering how these people can offer a service like this for free. It makes no sence to me. Anyways it is pretty hardcore and anyone into that type of stuff should give it a shout. 011-239-129-2618 or 011-239-129-2620
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1993 04:46:15 GMT From: jik@GZA.COM (Jonathan I. Kamens) Message-ID: <jik.cancel.930817044615.137.169@GZA.COM> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,control Subject: cmsg cancel <24pn3r$1l9@cyberspace.com> Control: cancel <24pn3r$1l9@cyberspace.com> .
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: peter@corsica (Peter Eisch) Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP is a memory HOG! Message-ID: <CBwpzx.4ur@news.cis.umn.edu> Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: University of Minnesota Hospital and Clinic, Labratory Information Services References: <24gpam$2ut@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> <Aug15.073135.23769@acs.ucalgary.ca> <1993Aug15.154903.25965@black.toppoint.de> <Aug16.144355.25083@acs.ucalgary.ca> <CBvEF5.G7x@news.cis.umn.edu> <1993Aug17.030051.21418@csus.edu> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1993 14:07:48 GMT Very good! Copying over the /usr/lib/{installKM,km_info_reloc} and using the 3.0 version of ProcessMonitor.app will let you use the Mach Memory inspector. peter Eric P. Scott (eps@futon.SFSU.EDU) wrote: : [not crossposted to comp.sys.next.misc] : In article <CBvEF5.G7x@news.cis.umn.edu> : peter@tahiti.umhc.umn.edu (Peter Eisch) writes: : > : >There is a problem with the Mach Memory Server : >Can't inspect Mach Memory : What happens if you copy /usr/lib/{installKM,km_info_reloc} from : 3.0? : -=EPS=- -- Bureaucratically speaking, I am a subversive to obstructionists... peter@tahiti.umhc.umn.edu (Peter Eisch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (Michael Friendly) Subject: BiBTeX utility Message-ID: <CBx9B1.9w4@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca> Sender: news@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca (USENET News System) Organization: York University Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1993 21:06:36 GMT Does anyone know of any utilities for entering bibliographic info in bibtex style? -- Michael Friendly Internet: friendly@vm1.yorku.ca Psychology Department NeXTmail: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca York University 4700 Keele Street Toronto, ONT M3J 1P3 CANADA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (Michael Friendly) Subject: BiBTeX utility Message-ID: <CBx9B1.9w4@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca> Sender: news@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca (USENET News System) Organization: York University Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1993 21:06:36 GMT Does anyone know of any utilities for entering bibliographic info in bibtex style? -- Michael Friendly Internet: friendly@vm1.yorku.ca Psychology Department NeXTmail: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca York University 4700 Keele Street Toronto, ONT M3J 1P3 CANADA
From: jake@skatter.usask.ca Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: CLISP??? Date: 17 Aug 1993 21:37:00 GMT Organization: University of Saskatchewan Message-ID: <24rj1s$29a@tribune.usask.ca> References: <none> Good day. I wish to know if anyone has successfully compiled the CLISP implementation on a NeXTstation running the 2.x OS. If so, I would greatly appreciate knowledge of the exact procedure/changes. Thank you. jake -- Jason C. Breckenridge jake@skatter.usask.ca Why you wanna be readin' them long-haired books for, boy? - Foghorn Leghorn
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: wave@pixar.com (Michael B. Johnson) Subject: Re: PhotoAlbum.app and multiple archives of slides. Message-ID: <1993Aug17.202454.9013@pixar.com> Sender: news@pixar.com (Usenet Newsmaster) Organization: Pixar -- Point Richmond, California References: <24pg3oINN31k@network.ucsd.edu> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1993 20:24:54 GMT In article <24pg3oINN31k@network.ucsd.edu> alevine@ucsd.edu writes: > Hello! > > I have a Photo CD containing a couple rolls of slides I had scanned to a > single directory. PhotoAlbum.app (NS 3.1, black hardware) opens all the > stored pix just fine. What I want to know is, can I or can I not have > another roll scanned to the same disk and expect to view it with > PhotoAlbum.app, on a NeXT (Sony) CD ROM drive, and a NeXTStation Color. I > understand that there are (were) some issues regarding multisession > incompatibilities, but I have no idea how serious they are. Can anyone > enlighten me? > The NeXT CD ROM drive, as well as all other drives made back then (i.e. two years ago) is not a multi-session drive. Most of the double speed drives that you would buy today (i.e. the Apple SC300) ARE multi-session, but that still doesn't mean that it will work. To get the multi-session stuff to work you need (a) a multi-session drive and (b) software that understands how to get at the multiple session info from that particular drive. Currently, there seems to be a bit of confusion about how to implement all the various multi-session features among the various drive manufacturers, so... To my knowledge, PhotoAlbum.app doesn't know how to talk to any of the multi-session drives. Luckily, it's only about $2 more to get pictures put on a new disc rather than an old one. Seems wasteful, I know, to have this disc that isn't full, but most of mine only have 70 something images on them, but since they were all written in a single session, I'm confident that I can view them anywhere. Hope that helps. -- --> Michael B. Johnson -- wave@media.mit.edu, wave@pixar.com --> MIT Media Lab -- Computer Graphics & Animation Group --> P*I*X*A*R -- IceMan Group (for the summer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) Subject: Re: NewsGrazer: attachments/sorting news groups Message-ID: <1993Aug17.215720.21568@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: Stanford University References: <CBx8wE.9A8@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 93 21:57:20 GMT Michael Friendly writes > Perhaps a dumb question, but... I often find attachments in news > items, which appear as an icon and hence can be dragged out or > clicked. But I can't find any way in NewsGrazer or Mail to put > them in. I'm sure it will seem obvious once someone tells me > how it's done. In NeXTMail, make sure the NeXT Mail button is toggled; in NewsGrazer, toggle the `Make Rich' button in a post window. Then just position your cursor wherever you want your attachment to be, and drag it in from the Workspace. (But remember many people won't be able to extract those attachments easily; moreover, they can quickly make posts very large, which will make you unpopular with people who get their news over modems.) > Also, NewsGrazer keeps the list of active News Groups in the > order subscribed and I'd like to be able to sort them, Not exactly what you asked for, but in preferences, choose the `News Group' mode and check the `Bubble news groups' box. News groups that have unread articles will now rise to the top. -- - Stefano Pagiola Food Research Institute, Stanford University spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged) spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
From: mek@guinan.psu.edu (Mark E. Kotanchek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NewsGrazer: attachments/sorting news groups Date: 17 Aug 1993 22:57:33 GMT Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing Message-ID: <24rnot$b13@genesis.ait.psu.edu> References: <1993Aug17.215720.21568@leland.Stanford.EDU> In article <1993Aug17.215720.21568@leland.Stanford.EDU> spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) writes: > Michael Friendly writes > [munch] > > Also, NewsGrazer keeps the list of active News Groups in the > > order subscribed and I'd like to be able to sort them, > > Not exactly what you asked for, but in preferences, choose the `News > Group' mode and check the `Bubble news groups' box. News groups that > have unread articles will now rise to the top. > Actually, if you do a <ctrl>-drag, you can rearrange the groups into the order of your choice. Mark. -- Mark Kotanchek Guidance & Control Dept - 363 ASB Applied Research Lab/Penn State P.O. Box 30 State College, PA 16804
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: paul@np.com (Paul Nordstrom) Subject: Re: PhotoAlbum.app and multiple archives of slides. Message-ID: <CBxKrE.BH@np.com> Organization: NP Consulting, San Francisco References: <24pg3oINN31k@network.ucsd.edu> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1993 01:14:02 GMT In article <24pg3oINN31k@network.ucsd.edu> alevine@ucsd.edu writes: >Hello! > >stored pix just fine. What I want to know is, can I or can I not have >another roll scanned to the same disk and expect to view it with >PhotoAlbum.app, on a NeXT (Sony) CD ROM drive, and a NeXTStation Color. I >understand that there are (were) some issues regarding multisession >incompatibilities, but I have no idea how serious they are. Can anyone >enlighten me? I can't speak to the software compatibility, but I do know that it is mandatory that your CD ROM drive itself be "multi-session capable". Check your owner's manual. -- -- Paul Nordstrom NP Consulting paul@np.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: shenhr@ie1next.me.umn.edu (Hongru Shen) Subject: Re: PhotoAlbum.app and multiple archives of slides. Message-ID: <CBxsqA.BGJ@news.cis.umn.edu> Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities References: <CBxKrE.BH@np.com> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1993 04:04:26 GMT In article <CBxKrE.BH@np.com> paul@np.com (Paul Nordstrom) writes: > In article <24pg3oINN31k@network.ucsd.edu> alevine@ucsd.edu writes: > >Hello! > > > >stored pix just fine. What I want to know is, can I or can I not have > >another roll scanned to the same disk and expect to view it with > >PhotoAlbum.app, on a NeXT (Sony) CD ROM drive, and a NeXTStation Color. I > >understand that there are (were) some issues regarding multisession > >incompatibilities, but I have no idea how serious they are. Can anyone > >enlighten me? > > I can't speak to the software compatibility, but I do know that it is > mandatory that your CD ROM drive itself be "multi-session capable". > Check your owner's manual. > > > > -- > -- > Paul Nordstrom > NP Consulting > paul@np.com
From: rao@tree.egr.uh.edu (Jagannatha Rao) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: ProcessMonitor.app does not work for me.... Date: 17 Aug 1993 15:27:14 GMT Organization: University of Houston Distribution: usa Message-ID: <24qtci$air@menudo.uh.edu> ProcessMonitor.app does not work for me. When I launch the app, the processes window is just empty. The console has the following message: /usr/lib/fastps: Couldn't get host priviledge port. How do I fix this problem? If I run this app as root on my machine, everything is fine, so I guess I have some permission problems. Thanks. -- Jagannatha Rao E-mail:rao@tree.egr.uh.edu Department of Mechanical Engineering Tel :(713) 743-4535 University of Houston Fax :(713) 743-4503 Houston, TX 77204-4792
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Wanted: freeware/shareware icon editor Date: 17 Aug 1993 17:17:29 GMT Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office Distribution: world Message-ID: <24r3r9$e90@news.mic.ucla.edu> References: <24onvt$rg@theborg.stack.urc.tue.nl> <24phb9$hgl@digifix.digifix.com> Of course, what I would really want is a cheap paint app with basic features in 300dpi, 400dpi and 600dpi B&W mode---without colors and other whiz-bang stuff---that works on EPS Postscript files. Preferably, it would only change objects that are touched by some paint function. I will probably end up buying a mass-product Windows program, and run it in DOS on my NS/FIP, though. Ugly, but much cheaper. Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu Asst Prof of Finance iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu AGSM at UCLA
From: arrigo@cube.sublink.org (Arrigo Benedetti) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTTeX_update: doesn't work ! Message-ID: <1993Aug16.210312.547@cube.sublink.org> Date: 16 Aug 93 21:03:12 GMT References: <hschulz.744907430@rzdspc12> Sender: arrigo@cube.sublink.org Organization: Arrigo Benedetti In article <hschulz.744907430@rzdspc12> hschulz@rzdspc12.informatik.uni-hamburg.de (Heiko Schulz) writes: > kluge@avalon.physik.unizh.ch (Daniel G. Kluge) writes: > > >I just downloaded NeXTTeX_Update.tar.Z and installed the new inputs and > >binaries, as described in the README-File, but when I tried to recompile > >the .fmt files I got an error > > >vis-next# initex plain > >! tex.pool doesn't match; tangle me again. > What is this update about? -Arrigo -- Arrigo Benedetti e-mail: arrigo@cube.sublink.org (preferred) University of Bologna benedett@deis01.cineca.it Tel: (home) +39 59 224929 (office) +39 59 216688 (fax) +39 59 220727 - I WILL DESIGN CHIPS FOR FOOD! -
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: stiv@netcom.com (Stiv D. Ostenberg) Subject: Re: robustness of SoftPC for black hardware Message-ID: <stivCBx559.D8F@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) References: <1993Aug7.011052.18802@Princeton.EDU> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1993 19:36:44 GMT jeffblum@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Jeffrey Robert Blum) writes: >Does anyone have considerable experience with SoftPC for black hardware running >Windows? I am (probably irrationally) considering using it to run programs >such as Visual Basic and Visual C++. Is this possible? It would be on a turbo >cube. >Also, how good is the CD-ROM support? Is it good enough to let you install >applications? >Can you copy and paste between NeXT and Windows apps? >Thanks much for any experiences. >-jeff >-- Well, if these programs will run on a 286, SoftPC should handle them just fine. I suspect they may require 386 which means they will fail. Ya, you can install programs off CD-ROM. Cut and paste is limited to text, or you can use the screen grabber to grab graphic images from SoftPC. I will try to return to this group if you have more questions. -- Stiv Ostenberg stiv@netcom.netcom.com| Sable, Saltairwise, a Claighmore ---------------------------------------+ inverted Argent, a Rowan Branch Or Tech Support, Insignia Solutions | --<------ ------>-- ---------------------------------------+ Conner MacCiaran
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (Michael Friendly) Subject: NewsGrazer: attachments/sorting news groups Message-ID: <CBx8wE.9A8@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca> Sender: news@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca (USENET News System) Organization: York University Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1993 20:57:50 GMT Perhaps a dumb question, but... I often find attachments in news items, which appear as an icon and hence can be dragged out or clicked. But I can't find any way in NewsGrazer or Mail to put them in. I'm sure it will seem obvious once someone tells me how it's done. Also, NewsGrazer keeps the list of active News Groups in the order subscribed and I'd like to be able to sort them, but the .newsrc file seems to have all newsgroups, active and inactive and I'm reluctant to just sort that. Would that work? -- Michael Friendly Internet: friendly@vm1.yorku.ca Psychology Department NeXTmail: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca York University 4700 Keele Street Toronto, ONT M3J 1P3 CANADA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: animate@solomon.technet.sg (Jauder Ho) Subject: Re: NS/Intel info Message-ID: <CBy6tE.66D@newsserver.technet.sg> Sender: news@newsserver.technet.sg Organization: University of Michigan, High Energy Spin Phyics References: <1993Apr20.071053.15106@news.acns.nwu.edu> <C5rurx.AvG@mailer.cc.fsu.edu> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1993 09:10:26 GMT Could someone tell me what is the minimum and optimum configuration to effectively run NS/FIP? Thanks. Please e-mail to jauderho@umich.edu. -- Jauder Ho High Energy Spin Physics ========================================= jauderho@umich.edu jho@mich.physics.lsa.umich.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: kjellb@cs.umu.se (Kjell Borg) Subject: Re: Adding a .sig to mail Message-ID: <CByEz3.x8@cs.umu.se> Sender: news@cs.umu.se (News Administrator) Organization: Dep. of Info.Proc, Umea Univ., Sweden References: <1993Aug5.091956.12654@sics.se> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1993 12:06:39 GMT In article <1993Aug5.091956.12654@sics.se> stefan@initiera.upnet.se (Stefan Kruger) writes: > is there a way to add a .signature file to NeXTmail messages ? I'm also interested in this. For non-Next mails I am using the method described in a FAQ posting. I have a executable sh file with the following content: #!/bin/sh { if test -r ${HOME}/.add-header; then cat ${HOME}/.add-header; fi cat - if test -r ${HOME}/.signature; then echo "--"; cat ${HOME}/.signature; fi }| /usr/lib/sendmail "$@" And in the preferences/expert panel I have inserted the full path of this file as the new mailer. It works fine for non-Next mail, but not for Next mail. Kjell PS. OBS that you will have a header inserted if you have a .add-header file in your home directory. Actually, you can modify this file to do lots of interesting things to your mails. DS -- ----------------------------------------------------------------|||| | Mr Kjell Borg | Institute of Information Processing |||| | Email: kjellb@cs.umu.se | Universtity of Umea |||| | Phone: +46 90-166735 | S-901 87 UMEA |||| | Fax: +46 90-166126 | SWEDEN |||| ----------------------------------------------------------------||||
From: Thomas.J.Baker@UNH.edu (Thomas J. Baker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Automatic Font Inclusion in Print Jobs? Date: 18 Aug 1993 12:26:03 GMT Organization: University of New Hampshire - Durham, NH Distribution: world Message-ID: <24t74r$cvd@mozz.unh.edu> I have a LaserJet4m. I can hook it up serial at 38400 and it works perfectly, slowly. I bought an Emulex NetJet card that uses lpr/lpd protocol and it is much faster (obviously) than the serial connection. The one problem is that since the NeXT thinks it's printing to a remote host, it just hands the file off and there is no interaction with the printer. When the printer doesn't have a font, it can't tell the NeXT to send it. Since the available ROM fonts are described in the PPD file, why doesn't the NeXT printing software automatically include the other fonts in the print job. Is there anyway to make it do this? I know you can save to a file and include the fonts but can you make it just send the missing fonts from the print panel? Thanks for any info... tjb --- ========================================================================== | Thomas Baker - UNH Postmaster | Voice: (603) 862-4490 | | Networking & Unix Systems Manager | Fax: (603) 862-1085 | | Computing & Information Services ====================================| | University of New Hampshire | Internet: Thomas.J.Baker@UNH.edu | | M113 Kingsbury Hall | NeXTmail Encouraged! | | Durham, NH 03824 | PGP key available on request | ==========================================================================
From: x92pedler@gw.wmich.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Wanted: Mathematica Docs Message-ID: <1993Aug18.104032.11033@gw.wmich.edu> Date: 18 Aug 93 10:40:32 EST Organization: Western Michigan University Does anyone know where a person could FTP basic documentation for Mathematica 2.0 for the NeXT, or simply Mathematica 2.0? I would really appreciate any information. Thanks, Andy Pedler -Western Michigan universituy
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jdeclari@is.rpslmc.edu (John-William DeClaris) Subject: Project Builder Message-ID: <1993Aug18.155340.9877@rpslmc.edu> Sender: news@rpslmc.edu Organization: Rush-Presbyterian-St. Luke's Medical Center Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1993 15:53:40 GMT First, I would like to thank all those who responded to my first inquiry about Project Builder, and the error message I was getting. I would name all of those who helped but I got 42 responses!!! There was some interesting responses, and some very useful insight (crt === C run time), the -l in my error message is a library call. My original problem was that Project Builder could not find crt0.o. This happenned because PB did not install all the necessary files (The installation process is farely simple, just press install.). I know because I had to manually copy them and make all of the links. Once that was done, it worked farely simple, except that I got an occasional error saying that PB was looking for Media_s and NeXT_s. This occurred twice, and then it went away and I did not think much of it. By going away I mean that when I built my program, I no longer got that message. I had not made any changes except that I threw away the .app file and rebuilt. I got a program off of the I-net and i wanted to make a few modifications. I immediately got the same error message which as follows: Copied GIFology.nib cc -g -O -Wall -I./sym -arch m68k -I. -c Gif.m -o ./m68k_obj/Gif.o cc -g -O -Wall -I./sym -arch m68k -I. -c gif_main.m -o ./m68k_obj/gif_main.o cc -g -O -Wall -I./sym -arch m68k -ObjC -sectcreate __ICON __header gif.iconheader -segprot __ICON r r -sectcreate __ICON app icon.tiff -o gif.app/gif m68k_obj/Gif.o m68k_obj/gif_main.o GifDecode.o -lMedia_s -lNeXT_s ld: Can't locate file for: -lMedia_s *** Exit 1 Stop. *** Exit 1 Stop. This is the exact message displayed by PB. I checked the CD that has the original developer tools, and i did not see this anywhere. Does someone know what this message is and where these two files are hidden? I would be very grateful. Again, please mail me direct. Thanks very much. -- John-William DeClaris All comments made by me are mine and not reflective of RUSH or anyone else... even any spelling errors I most likely made. Live each day as if it were your last, because someday it will be.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dcode@netcom.com (Paul Marcos) Subject: Re: Automatic Font Inclusion in Print Jobs? Message-ID: <dcodeCByqAt.1Jo@netcom.com> Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1993 16:11:16 GMT Yes, in NetInfoManager create a property for the printer that you want fonts to be included. The properties name should be '_nxfinalform'. That will spool the file locally on the NeXT in its final form which will include all fo the fonts before sending it off to the printer. It's documented in the Release Notes...Printing.rtf to be exact, I think. Works for me printing to an AppleLaserWriter through a Sun print server. Paul -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- dCode | Internet: dcode@netcom.com | (415) 960-3539 NeXT Mail Happily Accepted
From: Hal.Varian@umich.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Wanted: Mathematica Docs Date: 18 Aug 1993 16:50:48 GMT Organization: University of Michigan - College of Literature, Science, and TheArts Distribution: world Message-ID: <24tml8$kpn@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu> References: <1993Aug18.104032.11033@gw.wmich.edu> In article <1993Aug18.104032.11033@gw.wmich.edu> x92pedler@gw.wmich.edu writes: > Does anyone know where a person could FTP basic documentation for > Mathematica 2.0 for the NeXT, or simply Mathematica 2.0? I would really > appreciate any information. > Thanks, > Andy Pedler -Western Michigan universituy ftp to wri.com. -- Hal.Varian@umich.edu Hal Varian voice: 313-764-2364 Dept of Economics fax: 313-764-2364 Univ of Michigan Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1220
From: Thomas.J.Baker@UNH.edu (Thomas J. Baker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Automatic Font Inclusion in Print Jobs? Date: 18 Aug 1993 17:55:52 GMT Organization: University of New Hampshire - Durham, NH Distribution: world Message-ID: <24tqf8$geu@mozz.unh.edu> References: <dcodeCByqAt.1Jo@netcom.com> In article <dcodeCByqAt.1Jo@netcom.com> dcode@netcom.com (Paul Marcos) writes: > Yes, in NetInfoManager create a property for the printer that you > want fonts to be included. The properties name should be '_nxfinalform'. > That will spool the file locally on the NeXT in its final form > which will include all fo the fonts before sending it off to the > printer. > > > Paul I'm using 3.0....I hope to recieve 3.1 by month's end. Meanwhile, Ray sez... I've got the same set up. I use the following off the net: <inclusion wintermute.unh.edu> ls -l total 7 -rw-r--r-- 1 tjb 1358 Jun 28 12:23 README -rwxr-xr-x 1 tjb 2392 Jun 28 12:13 listfonts.perl* -rwxr-xr-x 1 tjb 1887 Jun 28 12:20 npd-lpr* wintermute.unh.edu> excluded> This works great except for FrameMaker, which doesn't seem to properly output DocumentFonts, which is what the perl script keys on. I agree that this should be done automatically, though... -- Ray Ghanbari Mayo Foundation ray@mayo.edu --- ========================================================================== | Thomas Baker - UNH Postmaster | Voice: (603) 862-4490 | | Networking & Unix Systems Manager | Fax: (603) 862-1085 | | Computing & Information Services ====================================| | University of New Hampshire | Internet: Thomas.J.Baker@UNH.edu | | M113 Kingsbury Hall | NeXTmail Encouraged! | | Durham, NH 03824 | PGP key available on request | ==========================================================================
From: anstine@uniblab.sas.upenn.edu (David Anstine) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Success with Dots, anyone? Message-ID: <141826@netnews.upenn.edu> Date: 18 Aug 93 19:05:33 GMT Sender: news@netnews.upenn.edu Has anyone gotten Dots to work properly? Any suggestions on drivers for HP DeskJets or other cheap printers? Thanks in advance, -dave ____________________________________________________ __ / /\ / / \ David Anstine / / /\ \ NeXT Support Specialist / / /\ \ \ University of Pennsylvania / / / \ \ \ School of Arts and Sciences / / / \ \ \ anstine@uniblab.sas.upenn.edu / /_/______\ \ \ (215)573-3285 /____________\ \ \ \_______________\/
From: nevai@math.ohio-state.edu (Paul Nevai) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: what trick is needed to compile ispell-4.0 under NS 3.1? Date: 18 Aug 1993 21:37:53 GMT Organization: Department of Mathematics, The Ohio State University Sender: Paul Nevai Distribution: world Message-ID: <24u7fh$rr7@mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu> Originator: nevai@ops.mps.ohio-state.edu Can you tell me how to compile ispell-4.0 under NS 3.1? I have the developer stuff and also gcc but both die while attempting the job. I had no problems under N.S. 3.0. Please respond by email. Thanks. Take care...Paul Paul Nevai nevai@math.ohio-state.edu Dept Math - Ohio State University 1-614-292-3317 (Office) Columbus, Ohio 43210-1174, U.S.A. 1-614-292-1479 (Math Dept Fax)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: b44729@achilles.ctd.anl.gov (Samuel Pigg) Subject: Is there a ppp implementation for the NeXT (newer than 1991)? Message-ID: <B44729.93Aug18092052@achilles.ctd.anl.gov> Sender: usenet@mcs.anl.gov Organization: /Net/achilles/files3/b44729/.organization Distribution: usa Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1993 15:20:52 GMT I've looked around and the only ppp software I have seen is on sonata and is version 0.2 dated from 1991. Is there a newer implementation (freeware/shareware/commercial?) Thanks, Sam
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: uunet!lkba!lkb (Larry Blische) Subject: Re: PhotoAlbum.app and multiple archives of slides. Message-ID: <1993Aug18.134713.1370@lkba.uucp> Sender: lkb@lkba.uucp (Larry Blische) Organization: LKB Associates, Inc. References: <1993Aug17.202454.9013@pixar.com> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1993 13:47:13 GMT In article <1993Aug17.202454.9013@pixar.com> wave@pixar.com (Michael B. Johnson) writes: > In article <24pg3oINN31k@network.ucsd.edu> alevine@ucsd.edu writes: > > Hello! > > > > I have a Photo CD containing a couple rolls of slides I had scanned to a > > single directory. PhotoAlbum.app (NS 3.1, black hardware) opens all the > > stored pix just fine. What I want to know is, can I or can I not have > > another roll scanned to the same disk and expect to view it with > > PhotoAlbum.app, on a NeXT (Sony) CD ROM drive, and a NeXTStation Color. > I > > understand that there are (were) some issues regarding multisession > > incompatibilities, but I have no idea how serious they are. Can anyone > > enlighten me? > > > [...] > > Luckily, it's only about $2 more to get pictures put on a new disc rather > than an old one. Seems wasteful, I know, to have this disc that isn't > full, but most of mine only have 70 something images on them, but since > they were all written in a single session, I'm confident that I can view > them anywhere. Can I take my CD which has, say, 30 pics on it to Kodak along with a roll of film and get them to COPY the first CD to a new one and then ADD the new roll? Can I have old slides transferred? How much does this cost?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: verket@venice.sedd.trw.com (Paul Verket) Subject: Re: NewsGrazer Message-ID: <1993Aug19.000122.21751@venice.sedd.trw.com> Organization: TRW Systems Engineering & Development Division, Carson, CA References: <1993Aug15.035142.10584@venice.sedd.trw.com> <24pmk7$gl3@usenet.rpi.edu> Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1993 00:01:22 GMT : From the "For what it's worth" department: : Back when Jason was working on NewsGrazer, my usenet administrator was upset : about how NewsGrazer pounded the usenet machine when it was used over an : NNTP connection. Not wanting to get shot by him, I contacted Jason, and : Jason traded messages with the usenet administrator. The NNTP traffic you : see now is based (to some extent) on advice from that administrator. Earlier versions of Newsgrazer were pretty ruthless with NNTP! :-) Every article requested was prefaced with a "group" command since Jayson would shift reading article subjects based on which group you were in at the time. The group command also returns other information like the low/high article numbers and other stuff. He later added the optimization to not issue the group command if it wasn't needed. Other optimizations didn't make it though (and I didn't pester Jason for them unfortunately). For example, if you read a long post and decide to save it, it must be reread from the server. Paul Verket (NeXTmail ok) -- Real nerds don't need a fancy GUI, they use raw NNTP commands :-)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: wave@pixar.com (Michael B. Johnson) Subject: Re: PhotoAlbum.app and multiple archives of slides. Message-ID: <1993Aug19.001934.17715@pixar.com> Sender: news@pixar.com (Usenet Newsmaster) Organization: Pixar -- Point Richmond, California References: <1993Aug18.134713.1370@lkba.uucp> Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1993 00:19:34 GMT In article <1993Aug18.134713.1370@lkba.uucp> uunet!lkba!lkb (Larry Blische) writes: > In article <1993Aug17.202454.9013@pixar.com> wave@pixar.com (Michael B. > Johnson) writes: > > In article <24pg3oINN31k@network.ucsd.edu> alevine@ucsd.edu writes: > [...] > > > > Luckily, it's only about $2 more to get pictures put on a new disc rather > > than an old one. Seems wasteful, I know, to have this disc that isn't > > full, but most of mine only have 70 something images on them, but since > > they were all written in a single session, I'm confident that I can view > > them anywhere. > > Can I take my CD which has, say, 30 pics on it to Kodak along with a roll of > film and get them to COPY the first CD to a new one and then ADD the new > roll? No. At least not at any reasonable price point. You could certainly bring the original negatives along and have them redo it, but why wouldn't you just wait until you had 3 or 4 rolls of film... > > Can I have old slides transferred? How much does this cost? Sure. A little more than negatives, but not much. Remember, the most economical way to do this stuff is to have them develop your negatives and put them directly onto PhotoCD. Doing it after the fact (because they have to do manual labor - can't just stuff it into a machine) costs significantly more (when multiplied over a few hundred images). Y'all really should wander down to your local photofinisher and ask these questions, though... -- --> Michael B. Johnson -- wave@media.mit.edu, wave@pixar.com --> MIT Media Lab -- Computer Graphics & Animation Group --> P*I*X*A*R -- IceMan Group (for the summer)
From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP is a memory HOG! Keywords: NESTSTEP MEMORY HOG DISK SPACE Message-ID: <70491@mimsy.umd.edu> Date: 19 Aug 93 00:42:22 GMT References: <24gpam$2ut@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> <Aug15.073135.23769@acs.ucalgary.ca> <1993Aug15.154903.25965@black.toppoint.de> Sender: news@mimsy.umd.edu Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742 In article <1993Aug15.154903.25965@black.toppoint.de> kris@black.toppoint.de (Kristian Koehntopp) writes: > /NextDeveloper/Apps/ProcessMonitor.app > This is the only way to get detailed memory usage statistics > about a NeXTstep program. ps is a completely inadequate tool for this purpose. there is a really nice tool called Informer.app on the archives. It provides an easy way to find alot of information about the system, including memory stats. I dont think you can distinguish between amount of memory in shared libs vs. unique to an app in the current release, but the great thing is that Informer is extendible. there is an API, and some class definitions, and it will load bundles to allow you to add more informer tools (without writing another tool). there are 2 other tools that help a little, vm_stat and MallocDebug. neither does exactly what this thread is in search of though. > I am missing a system real/vm memory analyse tool: I want to have a > pixel or a small block for each page and different color for the various usages of memory. what a nice idea, it would make a great Informer module. -- Alex Blakemore alex@cs.umd.edu NeXT mail accepted -------------------------------------------------------------- "Without an engaged and motivated human being at the keyboard, the computer is just another dumb box." William Raspberry
From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXT-TeX questions Message-ID: <70492@mimsy.umd.edu> Date: 19 Aug 93 00:45:26 GMT References: <CPESCH.93Aug16161649@markov.fmi.uni-passau.de> Sender: news@mimsy.umd.edu Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742 cpesch@markov.fmi.uni-passau.de (Christoph Pesch) writes: >Can someone tell me if the sources for NeXT-TeX are available and from where? /usr/lib/tex/src/texview -- Alex Blakemore alex@cs.umd.edu NeXT mail accepted -------------------------------------------------------------- "Without an engaged and motivated human being at the keyboard, the computer is just another dumb box." William Raspberry
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Jim_Brownfield@radical.com (Jim Brownfield) Subject: Re: Adding a .sig to mail Message-ID: <1993Aug19.001728.2994@Radical.Com> Sender: jbrow@Radical.Com Organization: Radical System Solutions, Inc. References: <CByEz3.x8@cs.umu.se> Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1993 00:17:28 GMT Kjell Borg writes > In article <1993Aug5.091956.12654@sics.se> stefan@initiera.upnet.se (Stefan > Kruger) writes: > > is there a way to add a .signature file to NeXTmail messages ? > > I'm also interested in this. For non-Next mails I am using the method > described in a FAQ posting. I have a executable sh file with the following > content: > > #!/bin/sh > { > if test -r ${HOME}/.add-header; then cat ${HOME}/.add-header; fi > cat - > if test -r ${HOME}/.signature; then echo "--"; cat ${HOME}/.signature; > fi > }| /usr/lib/sendmail "$@" > > And in the preferences/expert panel I have inserted the full path of this file > as the new mailer. It works fine for non-Next mail, but not for Next mail. > > Kjell > > PS. OBS that you will have a header inserted if you have a .add-header file in > your home directory. Actually, you can modify this file to do lots of > interesting things to your mails. DS > -- Here's what I do... Note that I autolaunch Terminal.app from the dock upon login: Add a terminal services item of "Get Signature" with a command key of "0" (at least that's what I use). Define the command "cat /<yourLoginDirHere>/.fullSignature" (a file with the "--" as the first line followed by your signature), and set the command to "Run in the Background". After you've done this, you will notice a "Get Signature 0" as an item in the Services/Terminal submenu. Then, when you are finished writing your mail, you simply type <command>0 to add the signature. It's not pretty, it's not automated, but it works for NeXT and non-NeXT mail. -- Jim Brownfield (Jim_Brownfield@Radical.Com) NeXTmail accepted Radical System Solutions, Inc. rad i cal \'rad-i-kel\ n -- a basic principle: FOUNDATION
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) Subject: Re: Adding a .sig to mail Message-ID: <1993Aug19.031542.11838@csus.edu> Sender: news@csus.edu Organization: San Francisco State University References: <CByEz3.x8@cs.umu.se> <1993Aug19.001728.2994@Radical.Com> Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1993 03:15:42 GMT In article <1993Aug19.001728.2994@Radical.Com> Jim_Brownfield@radical.com (Jim Brownfield) writes: >> I'm also interested in this. For non-Next mails I am using the method >> described in a FAQ posting. I have a executable sh file with the following >> if test -r ${HOME}/.signature; then echo "--"; cat ${HOME}/.signature; >/<yourLoginDirHere>/.fullSignature" (a file with the "--" as the first line "-- " (*not* "--"); a subtle (but important!) difference. Whichever FAQ you were reading gave incorrect information--submit a correction. -=EPS=-
From: kdb@sunbar.mc.duke.edu (Kurt Bollacker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Mandelbrot Demo -SLOW in 3.1! Message-ID: <19317@news.duke.edu> Date: 19 Aug 93 05:14:04 GMT Sender: news@news.duke.edu Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc When showing my ColorStation off to friends, they'd always be amazed at how fast the NeXTcould generate mandelbrot set views. To my surprise, when I upgraded to NS3.1 I ran the demo, AND IT WAS ABOUT 3-4 TIMES SLOWER! I was sure I had somehow messed things up. Then I discovered later that Mandelbrot.app for 3.1 was compiled to use only 680X0 code on the NeXT, not for the DSP as in 3.0. I guess this was to make the demo MAB compatible with NSI, but it was still annoying. I promptly reinstalled my old 3.0 version of Mandelbrot.app and it runs much faster than a silly Intel-GX 486/66. I wonder what other "upgrades" NeXT has put in 3.1? Disappointed, ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + Kurt D. Bollacker Duke University Medical Center + + kdb@sunbar.mc.duke.edu Durham, NC 27710 + ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Control: cancel <1993Aug19.071416.18272@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.www,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer From: bradley@cs.UAlberta.CA (Nelson Bradley Glen) Subject: cmsg cancel <1993Aug19.071416.18272@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> Message-ID: <1993Aug19.071829.18455@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca Organization: University of Alberta References: <1993Aug19.071416.18272@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1993 07:18:29 GMT <1993Aug19.071416.18272@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> was cancelled from within rn.
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.www,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer From: bradley@cs.UAlberta.CA (Nelson Bradley Glen) Subject: WorldWideWeb for NS/Intel Message-ID: <1993Aug19.072452.18744@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca Organization: University of Alberta Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1993 07:24:52 GMT I think I'm in deep doo-doo. I've promised my boss that I could compile the NeXTStep WorldWideWeb browser (not the command-line one) for NeXTStep/Intel. We thought that the source was available on info.cern.ch. But it isn't, and nobody will respond to my email, not even Tim Berners-Lee, the author. Does anyone have this compiled already? Does anyone know if the source is available at all, and if so where I could get it? I'm gonna die a horrible death if this doesn't happen... My apologies if this gets posted more than once - our news server on campus here keeps barfing with "out of space" errors. Thanks, --- -Brad brad%shunda@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca bradley@cs.ualberta.ca
From: t9116ts@tech.mis.cfc.com (Todd Swan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Adding a .sig to mail Date: 19 Aug 1993 09:20:36 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9308191242.AA15652@tech.mis.cfc.com> In article <1993Aug19.031542.11838@csus.edu> eps@cs.sfsu.edu wrote: > In article <1993Aug19.001728.2994@Radical.Com> > Jim_Brownfield@radical.com (Jim Brownfield) writes: > >> I'm also interested in this. For non-Next mails I am using the method > >> described in a FAQ posting. I have a executable sh file with the following > > >> if test -r ${HOME}/.signature; then echo "--"; cat ${HOME}/.signature; > > >/<yourLoginDirHere>/.fullSignature" (a file with the "--" as the first line > > > "-- " (*not* "--"); a subtle (but important!) difference. > Whichever FAQ you were reading gave incorrect information--submit > a correction. OK, I'll bite. What's the difference? (You'll notice that the sig below, generated by NG, has no space...) Todd -- Todd M. Swan - tms@cfc.com - Chrysler Financial, Centerline, MI "Life is a diamond we turn into dust..." - Rush
From: rao@tree.egr.uh.edu (Jagannatha Rao) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: ProcessMonitor.app does not work for me.... Date: 17 Aug 1993 15:27:14 GMT Organization: University of Houston Distribution: usa Message-ID: <24qtci$air@menudo.uh.edu> ProcessMonitor.app does not work for me. When I launch the app, the processes window is just empty. The console has the following message: /usr/lib/fastps: Couldn't get host priviledge port. How do I fix this problem? If I run this app as root on my machine, everything is fine, so I guess I have some permission problems. Thanks. -- Jagannatha Rao E-mail:rao@tree.egr.uh.edu Department of Mechanical Engineering Tel :(713) 743-4535 University of Houston Fax :(713) 743-4503 Houston, TX 77204-4792
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Wanted: freeware/shareware icon editor Date: 17 Aug 1993 17:17:29 GMT Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office Distribution: world Message-ID: <24r3r9$e90@news.mic.ucla.edu> References: <24onvt$rg@theborg.stack.urc.tue.nl> <24phb9$hgl@digifix.digifix.com> Of course, what I would really want is a cheap paint app with basic features in 300dpi, 400dpi and 600dpi B&W mode---without colors and other whiz-bang stuff---that works on EPS Postscript files. Preferably, it would only change objects that are touched by some paint function. I will probably end up buying a mass-product Windows program, and run it in DOS on my NS/FIP, though. Ugly, but much cheaper. Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu Asst Prof of Finance iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu AGSM at UCLA
From: arrigo@cube.sublink.org (Arrigo Benedetti) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTTeX_update: doesn't work ! Message-ID: <1993Aug16.210312.547@cube.sublink.org> Date: 16 Aug 93 21:03:12 GMT References: <hschulz.744907430@rzdspc12> Sender: arrigo@cube.sublink.org Organization: Arrigo Benedetti In article <hschulz.744907430@rzdspc12> hschulz@rzdspc12.informatik.uni-hamburg.de (Heiko Schulz) writes: > kluge@avalon.physik.unizh.ch (Daniel G. Kluge) writes: > > >I just downloaded NeXTTeX_Update.tar.Z and installed the new inputs and > >binaries, as described in the README-File, but when I tried to recompile > >the .fmt files I got an error > > >vis-next# initex plain > >! tex.pool doesn't match; tangle me again. > What is this update about? -Arrigo -- Arrigo Benedetti e-mail: arrigo@cube.sublink.org (preferred) University of Bologna benedett@deis01.cineca.it Tel: (home) +39 59 224929 (office) +39 59 216688 (fax) +39 59 220727 - I WILL DESIGN CHIPS FOR FOOD! -
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: stiv@netcom.com (Stiv D. Ostenberg) Subject: Re: robustness of SoftPC for black hardware Message-ID: <stivCBx559.D8F@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) References: <1993Aug7.011052.18802@Princeton.EDU> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1993 19:36:44 GMT jeffblum@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Jeffrey Robert Blum) writes: >Does anyone have considerable experience with SoftPC for black hardware running >Windows? I am (probably irrationally) considering using it to run programs >such as Visual Basic and Visual C++. Is this possible? It would be on a turbo >cube. >Also, how good is the CD-ROM support? Is it good enough to let you install >applications? >Can you copy and paste between NeXT and Windows apps? >Thanks much for any experiences. >-jeff >-- Well, if these programs will run on a 286, SoftPC should handle them just fine. I suspect they may require 386 which means they will fail. Ya, you can install programs off CD-ROM. Cut and paste is limited to text, or you can use the screen grabber to grab graphic images from SoftPC. I will try to return to this group if you have more questions. -- Stiv Ostenberg stiv@netcom.netcom.com| Sable, Saltairwise, a Claighmore ---------------------------------------+ inverted Argent, a Rowan Branch Or Tech Support, Insignia Solutions | --<------ ------>-- ---------------------------------------+ Conner MacCiaran
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (Michael Friendly) Subject: NewsGrazer: attachments/sorting news groups Message-ID: <CBx8wE.9A8@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca> Sender: news@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca (USENET News System) Organization: York University Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1993 20:57:50 GMT Perhaps a dumb question, but... I often find attachments in news items, which appear as an icon and hence can be dragged out or clicked. But I can't find any way in NewsGrazer or Mail to put them in. I'm sure it will seem obvious once someone tells me how it's done. Also, NewsGrazer keeps the list of active News Groups in the order subscribed and I'd like to be able to sort them, but the .newsrc file seems to have all newsgroups, active and inactive and I'm reluctant to just sort that. Would that work? -- Michael Friendly Internet: friendly@vm1.yorku.ca Psychology Department NeXTmail: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca York University 4700 Keele Street Toronto, ONT M3J 1P3 CANADA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (Michael Friendly) Subject: BiBTeX utility Message-ID: <CBx9B1.9w4@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca> Sender: news@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca (USENET News System) Organization: York University Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1993 21:06:36 GMT Does anyone know of any utilities for entering bibliographic info in bibtex style? -- Michael Friendly Internet: friendly@vm1.yorku.ca Psychology Department NeXTmail: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca York University 4700 Keele Street Toronto, ONT M3J 1P3 CANADA
From: jake@skatter.usask.ca Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: CLISP??? Date: 17 Aug 1993 21:37:00 GMT Organization: University of Saskatchewan Message-ID: <24rj1s$29a@tribune.usask.ca> References: <none> Good day. I wish to know if anyone has successfully compiled the CLISP implementation on a NeXTstation running the 2.x OS. If so, I would greatly appreciate knowledge of the exact procedure/changes. Thank you. jake -- Jason C. Breckenridge jake@skatter.usask.ca Why you wanna be readin' them long-haired books for, boy? - Foghorn Leghorn
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: wave@pixar.com (Michael B. Johnson) Subject: Re: PhotoAlbum.app and multiple archives of slides. Message-ID: <1993Aug17.202454.9013@pixar.com> Sender: news@pixar.com (Usenet Newsmaster) Organization: Pixar -- Point Richmond, California References: <24pg3oINN31k@network.ucsd.edu> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1993 20:24:54 GMT In article <24pg3oINN31k@network.ucsd.edu> alevine@ucsd.edu writes: > Hello! > > I have a Photo CD containing a couple rolls of slides I had scanned to a > single directory. PhotoAlbum.app (NS 3.1, black hardware) opens all the > stored pix just fine. What I want to know is, can I or can I not have > another roll scanned to the same disk and expect to view it with > PhotoAlbum.app, on a NeXT (Sony) CD ROM drive, and a NeXTStation Color. I > understand that there are (were) some issues regarding multisession > incompatibilities, but I have no idea how serious they are. Can anyone > enlighten me? > The NeXT CD ROM drive, as well as all other drives made back then (i.e. two years ago) is not a multi-session drive. Most of the double speed drives that you would buy today (i.e. the Apple SC300) ARE multi-session, but that still doesn't mean that it will work. To get the multi-session stuff to work you need (a) a multi-session drive and (b) software that understands how to get at the multiple session info from that particular drive. Currently, there seems to be a bit of confusion about how to implement all the various multi-session features among the various drive manufacturers, so... To my knowledge, PhotoAlbum.app doesn't know how to talk to any of the multi-session drives. Luckily, it's only about $2 more to get pictures put on a new disc rather than an old one. Seems wasteful, I know, to have this disc that isn't full, but most of mine only have 70 something images on them, but since they were all written in a single session, I'm confident that I can view them anywhere. Hope that helps. -- --> Michael B. Johnson -- wave@media.mit.edu, wave@pixar.com --> MIT Media Lab -- Computer Graphics & Animation Group --> P*I*X*A*R -- IceMan Group (for the summer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) Subject: Re: NewsGrazer: attachments/sorting news groups Message-ID: <1993Aug17.215720.21568@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: Stanford University References: <CBx8wE.9A8@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 93 21:57:20 GMT Michael Friendly writes > Perhaps a dumb question, but... I often find attachments in news > items, which appear as an icon and hence can be dragged out or > clicked. But I can't find any way in NewsGrazer or Mail to put > them in. I'm sure it will seem obvious once someone tells me > how it's done. In NeXTMail, make sure the NeXT Mail button is toggled; in NewsGrazer, toggle the `Make Rich' button in a post window. Then just position your cursor wherever you want your attachment to be, and drag it in from the Workspace. (But remember many people won't be able to extract those attachments easily; moreover, they can quickly make posts very large, which will make you unpopular with people who get their news over modems.) > Also, NewsGrazer keeps the list of active News Groups in the > order subscribed and I'd like to be able to sort them, Not exactly what you asked for, but in preferences, choose the `News Group' mode and check the `Bubble news groups' box. News groups that have unread articles will now rise to the top. -- - Stefano Pagiola Food Research Institute, Stanford University spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged) spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
From: mek@guinan.psu.edu (Mark E. Kotanchek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NewsGrazer: attachments/sorting news groups Date: 17 Aug 1993 22:57:33 GMT Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing Message-ID: <24rnot$b13@genesis.ait.psu.edu> References: <1993Aug17.215720.21568@leland.Stanford.EDU> In article <1993Aug17.215720.21568@leland.Stanford.EDU> spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) writes: > Michael Friendly writes > [munch] > > Also, NewsGrazer keeps the list of active News Groups in the > > order subscribed and I'd like to be able to sort them, > > Not exactly what you asked for, but in preferences, choose the `News > Group' mode and check the `Bubble news groups' box. News groups that > have unread articles will now rise to the top. > Actually, if you do a <ctrl>-drag, you can rearrange the groups into the order of your choice. Mark. -- Mark Kotanchek Guidance & Control Dept - 363 ASB Applied Research Lab/Penn State P.O. Box 30 State College, PA 16804
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: paul@np.com (Paul Nordstrom) Subject: Re: PhotoAlbum.app and multiple archives of slides. Message-ID: <CBxKrE.BH@np.com> Organization: NP Consulting, San Francisco References: <24pg3oINN31k@network.ucsd.edu> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1993 01:14:02 GMT In article <24pg3oINN31k@network.ucsd.edu> alevine@ucsd.edu writes: >Hello! > >stored pix just fine. What I want to know is, can I or can I not have >another roll scanned to the same disk and expect to view it with >PhotoAlbum.app, on a NeXT (Sony) CD ROM drive, and a NeXTStation Color. I >understand that there are (were) some issues regarding multisession >incompatibilities, but I have no idea how serious they are. Can anyone >enlighten me? I can't speak to the software compatibility, but I do know that it is mandatory that your CD ROM drive itself be "multi-session capable". Check your owner's manual. -- -- Paul Nordstrom NP Consulting paul@np.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: shenhr@ie1next.me.umn.edu (Hongru Shen) Subject: Re: PhotoAlbum.app and multiple archives of slides. Message-ID: <CBxsqA.BGJ@news.cis.umn.edu> Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities References: <CBxKrE.BH@np.com> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1993 04:04:26 GMT In article <CBxKrE.BH@np.com> paul@np.com (Paul Nordstrom) writes: > In article <24pg3oINN31k@network.ucsd.edu> alevine@ucsd.edu writes: > >Hello! > > > >stored pix just fine. What I want to know is, can I or can I not have > >another roll scanned to the same disk and expect to view it with > >PhotoAlbum.app, on a NeXT (Sony) CD ROM drive, and a NeXTStation Color. I > >understand that there are (were) some issues regarding multisession > >incompatibilities, but I have no idea how serious they are. Can anyone > >enlighten me? > > I can't speak to the software compatibility, but I do know that it is > mandatory that your CD ROM drive itself be "multi-session capable". > Check your owner's manual. > > > > -- > -- > Paul Nordstrom > NP Consulting > paul@np.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc From: heberlei@cs.ucdavis.edu (Louis Todd Heberlein) Subject: Archie for NeXT Message-ID: <CC0LKL.J58@ucdavis.edu> Keywords: Archie, NeXT, sonata Sender: usenet@ucdavis.edu (News Administrator) Organization: University of California, Davis Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1993 16:24:21 GMT I am looking for an Archie client for the NeXTstation (black hardware running 3.0). I found a package called Archie on Sonata, but it fails to install. Apparently the installation process requires files from superc.che.udel.edu, but attempts to retrieve the files fail (even though I can reach the computer via finger). Does anyone know why I can't install the Archie package from Sonata? Does anyone know of any alternatives I could use? Thanks, Todd Heberlein heberlei@cs.ucdavis.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy From: giddings@whitewater.chem.wisc.edu (Michael Giddings) Subject: Appsoft status Message-ID: <1993Aug19.161123.13079@pslu1.psl.wisc.edu> Keywords: appsoft software next Sender: news@pslu1.psl.wisc.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Physical Sciences Lab, UW-Madison Date: Thu, 19 Aug 93 16:11:23 GMT Well, due to problems I had with Image, I have had several interesting discussions with Randy Adams of Appsoft. People have wondered what the status of this company is, and thus I thought I would forward what I've learned to the net. Basically, Randy has expressed that Appsoft intends to support its current products, but will not do any further new product development until NeXT has proved successful to Appsoft's contentment. This nixes any development for an Intel version of Write Now until futher notice (fortunately, Exactly Write will apparently take its place). Randy seems a bit wary of the whole NeXT market right now, which translates to a reluctance for Appsoft to invest any more on product development at the current time. This is unfortunate, but maybe if nothing else it will give some of the smaller software companies in the market to come out with more cool products. Randy has been helpful in trying to get the Image problem resolved, so it seems like Appsoft is willing to stand by their current products. -- Michael Giddings | DNA sequencing technologies giddings@whitewater.chem.wisc.edu | Artificial Intelligence giddings@cs.wisc.edu | Sciences NeXT User Group founder |---------\-----------/|\------------/---------|
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) Subject: Re: Adding a .sig to mail In-Reply-To: t9116ts@tech.mis.cfc.com's message of 19 Aug 93 14:20:36 GMT Message-ID: <CEDMAN.93Aug19121847@capitalist.princeton.edu> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University References: <9308191242.AA15652@tech.mis.cfc.com> Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1993 16:18:47 GMT In article <9308191242.AA15652@tech.mis.cfc.com> t9116ts@tech.mis.cfc.com (Todd Swan) writes: In article <1993Aug19.031542.11838@csus.edu> eps@cs.sfsu.edu wrote: > "-- " (*not* "--"); a subtle (but important!) difference. > Whichever FAQ you were reading gave incorrect information--submit > a correction. OK, I'll bite. What's the difference? (You'll notice that the sig below, generated by NG, has no space...) One might also add that Mail.app doesn't like "-- " for signatures. If the last character on a line is a space, Mail.app swallows both it and the following newline. BTW, here is an update to the signature script I wrote for the FAQ. The main difference is that it now works correctly not only with NeXTmail, but also with .rtf and even .rtfd signatures, so users can for example put their digitized real signatures in the ~/.signature.rtfd file and it will automatically be attached to all outgoing NeXTmail (non-NeXTmail will continue to have the ~/.signature file attached). Another possibility is a small tiff of the author. The installation is the same as for the script in the FAQ. Just put this in some central location (/usr/local/lib/sendmail-addheadsig seems like a good place), chmod +x it and alter the Mail.app Mailer expert preference to point to it. (Remember, no '~' expansion is performed on this string). The script should work under both NS 2.x and 3.x, though it is only tested under 3.1. Whether Nathan wants to replace the script in the FAQ with this one or if he considers it to be too large is of course his choice. Also I should point out that this script was written around 1 AM this morning and as such of course has gone through an extensive testing cycle so that I can give my word of honour that there couldn't possibly be any bug in it. Carl Edman #!/bin/sh
# # File: sendmail-addheadsig # Description: A sendmail filter for with Mail.app # Author: Carl Edman # Created: Thu Aug 19 12:08:55 1993 # Modified: Thu Aug 19 12:09:40 1993 (Carl Edman) cedman@capitalist.princeton.edu # Language: Bourne shell # Package: N/A # Status: Experimental (but distribute anyway) # # (C) Copyright 1993, but otherwise this file is perfect freeware. # ############################################################################### attach=`{ cat - ; echo ; } | sed -n '1,/^$/ !w /tmp/content'$$' /^$/,$ !w /tmp/header'$$' s/^Next-Attachment: \([^,]*\),.*$/\1/p;'` if test -z ""$attach then if test -r ${HOME}/.signature then echo "--" >>/tmp/content$$ cat ${HOME}/.signature >>/tmp/content$$ fi else if test -d ${HOME}/.signature.rtfd -o -r ${HOME}/.signature.rtf then mkdir /tmp/maildir$$ cd /tmp/maildir$$ uudecode /tmp/content$$ gnutar xzf $attach rm $attach /tmp/content$$ if test -d ${HOME}/.signature.rtfd then cp -rp ${HOME}/.signature.rtfd/* . else cp ${HOME}/.signature.rtf ./TXT.rtf fi sed '$ s/} *$//' < index.rtf >index-new.rtf sed '1 s/^ *{//; s/{\\NeXTGraphic\([0-9]*\) \(.*\) \\width[0-9]* \\height[0-9]*$/{{\\attachment218\1 \2/;' <TXT.rtf | tr -d '\254' >>index-new.rtf mv index-new.rtf index.rtf rm TXT.rtf gnutar czf - * | uuencode $attach >/tmp/content$$ cd /tmp fi fi { cat /tmp/header$$ if test -r ${HOME}/.add-header; then cat ${HOME}/.add-header; fi echo cat /tmp/content$$ }| /usr/lib/sendmail "$@" rm -rf /tmp/header$$ /tmp/content$$ /tmp/maildir$$
From: reza@magellan.ae.utexas.edu (Alireza Vali) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: "Fish" screensaver Date: 19 Aug 1993 18:35:30 GMT Organization: University of Texas at Austin Message-ID: <250h5i$2kj@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> Hi. Does anyone know where I may find an aquarium type screen saver for the next? I would prefer public domain or shareware, but a commercial product is okay as well. Any help is appreciated. Please respond by e-mail. Thanks in advance. -- Ali R. Vali - reza@magellan.ae.utexas.edu
From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Wanted: freeware/shareware icon editor Message-ID: <70530@mimsy.umd.edu> Date: 19 Aug 93 19:06:37 GMT References: <24onvt$rg@theborg.stack.urc.tue.nl> <24phb9$hgl@digifix.digifix.com> <24r3r9$e90@news.mic.ucla.edu> Sender: news@mimsy.umd.edu Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742 In article <24r3r9$e90@news.mic.ucla.edu> ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) writes: > Of course, what I would really want is a cheap paint app with basic features > in 300dpi, 400dpi and 600dpi B&W mode---without colors and other whiz-bang > stuff---that works on EPS Postscript files. Preferably, it would only change > objects that are touched by some paint function. > > I will probably end up buying a mass-product Windows program, and run it in > DOS on my NS/FIP, though. Ugly, but much cheaper. WHY, why not get WetPaint.app from Pinnacle. its a very full featured image editing program for close to DOS price apps. I think the student price was around $100, maybe $125. definitely worth it. I think there is a demo on sonata. Pinnacle seems to do very good work. give your business to someone who builds software for NEXTSTEP so they can create more apps, dont give it to the DOS apps builders -- Alex Blakemore alex@cs.umd.edu NeXT mail accepted -------------------------------------------------------------- "Without an engaged and motivated human being at the keyboard, the computer is just another dumb box." William Raspberry
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: gross@stimpy.ame.nd.edu (George B. Ross) Subject: Re: Archie for NeXT Message-ID: <1993Aug19.195818.25156@news.nd.edu> Sender: news@news.nd.edu (USENET News System) Organization: University of Notre Dame References: <CC0LKL.J58@ucdavis.edu> Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1993 19:58:18 GMT In article <CC0LKL.J58@ucdavis.edu> heberlei@cs.ucdavis.edu (Louis Todd Heberlein) writes: > I am looking for an Archie client for the NeXTstation (black hardware > running 3.0). I found a package called Archie on Sonata, but it fails > to install. Apparently the installation process requires files from > superc.che.udel.edu, but attempts to retrieve the files fail (even though > I can reach the computer via finger). > > Does anyone know why I can't install the Archie package from Sonata? > Does anyone know of any alternatives I could use? > > Thanks, > > Todd Heberlein heberlei@cs.ucdavis.edu Todd, I've had the same problem...so if anyone knows the answer please post. -george +------- Stop it, you're talking crazy--Stimpson J. Cat -------+ | George B. Ross University of Notre Dame | | gross@stimpy.ame.nd.edu Aerospace and Mechanical Engineering | +--------------------- NeXT mail welcome ----------------------+
From: nagler@wat2213.ucr.edu (jonathan nagler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: FAQ???? Where? Message-ID: <35665@galaxy.ucr.edu> Date: 19 Aug 93 19:47:41 GMT Sender: news@galaxy.ucr.edu Is the FAQ available these days? Any advice on where I should go to find out about mono vs color on NS/FIP?? -jonathan
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Has anyone else looked at Databag on cs.orst.edu Date: 19 Aug 1993 15:59:02 -0400 Organization: Digital Fix Development Distribution: world Message-ID: <250m26$3lb@digifix.digifix.com> I just downloaded the demo for Databag from cs.orst.edu.... For the life of me I can't figure out why anyone would pay anything for it let alone $100. Basically, what you have is a text editor that lets you drag documents into it. It saves them out in RTF format, (actually, sort of rtfd ish)... There doesn't seem to be any indexing or searching or anything special like that. You can do this with Edit.app now. Its free. Its debugged. Has lots of goodies. For that matter, you could whip this up in IB in very short order. The only hassle is that you need to implement the dragging of items out of the text object your self... (not difficult at all!) Have I missed something here? -- - Scott Anguish - sanguish@digifix.com (NextMail) next-announce@digifix.com (comp.sys.next.announce submissions)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: tlm@tantalus.scl.ameslab.gov (Tom Marchioro) Subject: Re: NeXT-TeX questions Message-ID: <CC0utn.G7L@news.iastate.edu> Sender: news@news.iastate.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA References: <CPESCH.93Aug16161649@markov.fmi.uni-passau.de> Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1993 19:44:10 GMT Christoph Pesch writes []Hi! [] []1.) Can someone tell me if the sources for NeXT-TeX are available and from []where? (I want to patch it so it understands the environment variable []TEXFONTS_SUBDIR like the normal unixtex.) [] The sources to NeXt-TeX itself are the property of NeXT and are not available. TeXview and dvips, on the other hand, are owned by Tom Rokicki and the sources are included with the distribution (look in /usr/lib/tex/src I think). I've already pointed out this subdirectory searching question to Rokicki and he is planning to add it "soon" which might mean in one of the incremental releases, but more likely not until 4.0 since it requires a complete recompilation of TeX. []2.) (Under NeXTStep 3.1) TeXview does not read in the environment-variables []TEXPKS, etc. <<etc. trimmed>> I have passed this information along to Rokicki. [] []3.) In the NeXTTeX-manual the substitution in the environment variable []TEXPKS is described as %n --> fontname. []In older versions of TeXview and dvips it was %f --> fontname. []The new versions (NeXTStep 3.1) of dvips (and TeXview after patching it [](see (2.)!)) still use %f --> fontname and do NOT understand %n!!! []Is this a bug in dvips and TeXview or an error in the manual? [] Seems to be a bug. Have passed it along as well. TLM -- Dr. Thomas L. Marchioro II Two-wheeled theoretical physicist Center for Physical and Computational Mathematics 515-294-6629 Ames Laboratory 515-233-1216 (home) Ames, Iowa 50011 tlm@iastate.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jscherer@inline (John Scherer) Subject: Digital Librarian for X??? Message-ID: <CC0o7E.GJ9@sybase.com> Sender: usenet@sybase.com Organization: Sybase, Inc. Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1993 17:21:13 GMT Is anyone aware of an app for Xwindows that is similar to NeXT's Digital Librarian? Even remotely! -John jscherer@sybase.com John Scherer
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (Michael Friendly) Subject: Re: Adding a .sig to mail Message-ID: <CC0vMx.FG2@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca> Sender: news@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca (USENET News System) Organization: York University References: <CEDMAN.93Aug19121847@capitalist.princeton.edu> Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1993 20:01:45 GMT People might note that Scott Hess has a nice TickleServices.app, available (I believe) in submissions at cs.orst. It provides a host of mail services (quoting text, adding .sig, etc), as well as file, archive and other services. what's more, it provides a general scheme and language (Tcl) for adding services to any app. -- Michael Friendly Internet: friendly@vm1.yorku.ca Psychology Department NeXTmail: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca York University 4700 Keele Street Toronto, ONT M3J 1P3 CANADA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (Michael Friendly) Subject: Extracting .uu and .shar stuff from mail -- reliably? Message-ID: <CC0w27.Fzu@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca> Sender: news@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca (USENET News System) Organization: York University Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1993 20:10:55 GMT I've gotten several files sent to me in mail as uuencoded or .shar files which contain compressed .Z components. I'm having trouble extracting these so that they will decode reliably. If I select the lines, and choose Services/Edit/SaveSelection, I wind up with a .rtf file which, even saved as non-rich gives errors in the attempt to uudecode. I have non-NeXT as default for Mail, but that doesn't seem to help on receipt. This is probably a FAQ, but I couldn't find an answer anywhere. Moreover, one such .shar file is huge, so I'd like to find some easier way (as well as a reliable one) of getting it out as a file. -- Michael Friendly Internet: friendly@vm1.yorku.ca Psychology Department NeXTmail: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca York University 4700 Keele Street Toronto, ONT M3J 1P3 CANADA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: stiv@netcom.com (Stiv D. Ostenberg) Subject: Re: SoftPC problem with serial port and root access. Message-ID: <stivCC0xq9.JKv@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) References: <1993Aug10.172614.1170@rna.indiv.nluug.nl> Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1993 20:46:56 GMT gerben@rna.indiv.nluug.nl writes: >Hello, world! >I am running SoftPC 2.05. I'd like to use a PC program to communicate with my >modem. However, this modem is not on /dev/ttya, nor on /dev/ttyb, but on >/dev/cum (it's the mix data modem that runs on the DSP chip). When I try to set >this value in preferences, I get: >Device needed by comms adapter could not be accessed - check permissions. >'Com1' = '/dev/cum' >But the permissions of /dev/ttya are the same as for /dev/cum: crw-rw-rw. >I tried changing permissions to 777, but that did not help either. >So I tried running SoftPC as root. But then I get "illegal instruction >encountered" at startup time. I seem to be unable to run SOftPC 2.05 as root. >I have three questions: > Does someone know what I can do to use /dev/cum as serial device COM2? > Are there known problems when running as root? > Are these problems also in 3.0? (which has been ordered already, so >I'll find out sooner or later). >Thanks in advance for your help. I have run into problems with non-standard serial devices on various Unix platforms. The problem with the serial port probably lies in the fact that most ns serial ports use their own drivers which do not respond properly to the device calls SoftPC makes. 3.0 may solve your problems but I wouldn't put a guarantee on it. There should not be a problem with root. There may be other problems on the system if this is happening. -- Stiv Ostenberg stiv@netcom.netcom.com| Sable, Saltairwise, a Claighmore ---------------------------------------+ inverted Argent, a Rowan Branch Or Tech Support, Insignia Solutions | --<------ ------>-- ---------------------------------------+ Conner MacCiaran
From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Has anyone else looked at Databag on cs.orst.edu Date: 19 Aug 93 21:09:54 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <jeffo.745794594@uiuc.edu> References: <250m26$3lb@digifix.digifix.com> Scott Anguish writes: >I just downloaded the demo for Databag from cs.orst.edu.... >For the life of me I can't figure out why anyone would pay anything for it >let alone $100. I got the exact same impression "Why would anyone need this, let alone pay *anything* for it?" when I read the announcement in c.s.n.announce. Perhaps I too just missed something while reading it and it actually can do something that can not be done with the supplied tools (namely, Edit, Digital Librarian and the File Viewer). It seems like it might make a good PD example app to show others how to program drag-and-drop, but that's about it. As far as I could determine, it seemed like another useless application to add to the NeXTSTEP software library. -- J.B. Nicholson-Owens
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: heller@nirvana.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de (Helmut Heller) Subject: WANTED: lint Message-ID: <1993Aug19.213105.25624@news.lrz-muenchen.de> Keywords: lint, program checking Sender: news@news.lrz-muenchen.de (Mr. News) Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1993 21:31:05 GMT Hello, I am looking for a lint that will run on my NeXTStation (black). Could you please point me in the right direction by mailing to heller@nirvana.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de ? Thanks a lot (archie and sonata did not come up with anything), -- Servus, Helmut (DH0MAD) ______________NeXT-mail accepted________________ Phone: ++89/2394-4565 "Knowledge must be gathered and cannot be given" heller@nirvana.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de ZEN, one of BLAKES7 FAX: ++89/2394-4607 ------------------------------------------------ Helmut Heller, Ludwig Maximilians University, Institute for Medical Optics Theoretical Biophysics Group, Room 230
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.software From: stiv@netcom.com (Stiv D. Ostenberg) Subject: Re: SoftPC-Questions Message-ID: <stivCC0y54.LM4@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) References: <1993Aug16.171632.2077@boba.rhein-main.de> Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1993 20:55:50 GMT borris@boba.rhein-main.de (Borris Balzer) writes: >Hi there, >now I've found the demo-version of SoftPC on my NeXT3.1 CD and installed >it logged-in as "root". And the troubles started: >Logged-in as a normal user, it seems to be, the "new" SoftPC irritates my >old one (version 2.05). The old one isnt't any longer able to recognize >the virtual disks - because it tries to get acces to the new ones which >are installed at /root and there's no read/write-permission for normal >users. Further it seems that a "root-installed" SoftPC is just usuable for >"root" and not for other users >The workaround might be to erase the new SoftPC from my disk - but It >might be nice to own a licensed version of SoftPC for me. So before I'll >buy this stuff I would like to ask other SoftPC-users (or insignia): >Is SoftPC3.0/Windows really incompatible to SoftPC2.05? >Do I really need to buy one SoftPC-license for each user at my NeXT? (it >seems to be cheaper, to buy a no-name-PC for each user running Windows!). >An upgrade from 2.X to SoftPC3.0 Professional here in Germany is about >300,- Deutschmarks. An upgrade from SoftPC2.X to SoftPC/Windows is about >800,- Deutschmarks. The difference fits exactly to a new Windows-license. >But I own this already. So ist there a chance just to buy SoftPC >Professional and installing Windows from my Windows installation-disks? >And at least: Does anyboy know the e-mail-address of insignia? >Thanks in advance for your answers >- Borris - The problem with 2.05 and 3.0 lies in the system preferences database. The following command will clear the current entries: dread -o SoftPC | dremove You can get around the "read only" problems by changing the permissions on the hard disk files SoftPC uses. THe name of the file will appear under the option for drive C file name. SoftPC Professional WILL run windows, but will NOT have the SoftPC windows driver which allows you to use the full NeXT screen for windows, and allows the mouse to pass from Unix to DOS without a specific command. E-mail for insignia is "insignia@netcom.com" Ciao -- Stiv Ostenberg stiv@netcom.netcom.com| Sable, Saltairwise, a Claighmore ---------------------------------------+ inverted Argent, a Rowan Branch Or Tech Support, Insignia Solutions | --<------ ------>-- ---------------------------------------+ Conner MacCiaran
Control: cancel <CC1172.8GB@world.std.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: lloyd@world.std.com (Chris Lloyd) Subject: cmsg cancel <CC1172.8GB@world.std.com> Message-ID: <CC11Jt.9v3@world.std.com> Sender: lloyd@world.std.com (Chris Lloyd) Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA References: <1993Aug10.172614.1170@rna.indiv.nluug.nl> <stivCC0xq9.JKv@netcom.com> <CC1172.8GB@world.std.com> Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1993 22:09:29 GMT <CC1172.8GB@world.std.com> was cancelled from within rn. -- :: Christopher Lloyd :: Yrrid Incorporated :: lloyd@world.std.com :: :: NEXTSTEP Special Forces ::
From: rao@tree.egr.uh.edu (Jagannatha Rao) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Problem with Next Tex.... Date: 19 Aug 1993 22:18:22 GMT Organization: University of Houston Distribution: usa Message-ID: <250u7e$ll8@menudo.uh.edu> Keywords: no uppercase Greek letters.. I just discovered that I cannot use uppercase Greek letters in Next TeX at all. It just ignores the input when I use \Delta, \Pi etc. I am running NS 3.0 on a mono Turbo. What am I doing wrong or what could be wrong with my set up? (lower case letters and other math symbols work just fine). Thanks. -- Jagannatha Rao E-mail:rao@tree.egr.uh.edu Department of Mechanical Engineering Tel :(713) 743-4535 University of Houston Fax :(713) 743-4503 Houston, TX 77204-4792
From: barry@localhost.cisco.com (Barry Friedman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Digital Librarian for X??? Date: 19 Aug 1993 22:30:10 GMT Organization: cisco Systems Message-ID: <250utjINNpft@cronkite.cisco.com> References: <CC0o7E.GJ9@sybase.com> In article <CC0o7E.GJ9@sybase.com> jscherer@inline (John Scherer) writes: > > Is anyone aware of an app for Xwindows that is similar to NeXT's Digital > Librarian? Even remotely! > -John > > jscherer@sybase.com > John Scherer Try looking into WAIS. It gives you text indexing tools similar to Librarian, but works in a client/server model so that it can be accessed over a network from WAIS clients. There are X, NEXTSTEP and other clients available (even from emacs I think). It's from Thinking Machines Corp and you can grab it for free from ftp.uu.net. Look in /networking/info-service/wais. For my development environment at the office, I set up a WAIS server on one of our Sun servers and indexed all of our source code, man pages and documentation. I can access it using xwais from my desktop at work, or via NeXT-WAIStation at home over a SLIP line. I run a cron job nightly to rebuild the indexes. Works great!! -- ---------------------------------------------- Barry Friedman | heisenbug: from Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle. Cisco Systems Inc | A bug that disappears or alters its behavior bfriedman@cisco.com | when one attempts to probe or isolate it.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: moose@svcdudes.com Subject: Re: Larger Terminal in MicroPhone Pro? Message-ID: <1993Aug17.224112.4377@svcdudes.com> Sender: news@svcdudes.com Organization: Software Ventures, Inc. References: <chris.745375806@vincent2.iastate.edu> Distribution: na Date: Tue, 17 Aug 93 22:41:12 GMT In article <chris.745375806@vincent2.iastate.edu> chris@iastate.edu (Chris Wong) writes: > > BTW, which brand/kind of modem best performed under NS/FIP? > I heard some names ... telebit... Zylex? Just curious, what so great > about them? And how do they compared with Hayes compatible modems? > Unless you have then beta serial drivers from NeXT, then none work at all. However, once you get this new driver, it comes down to almost a religious war on best modem. It's hard to recommend one modem over another as I have trouble telling the difference between the high end modems except for price and reliability. I leave me modems on for years at a time, so I need a modem that doesn't flake out on me. Therefore, I go for the more expensive ones like Motorolla. One the other hand, I also like the Supra because it's so cheap I can go through one a year for less than the Motorolla is going to cost. > > -- > Chris Wong | "Hardware is supposed to serve Software." > chris@iastate.edu | Computer Engineering & Computer Science > twba8@isuvax.iastate.edu | Iowa State University of Science and Technology -- Michael Rutman | moose@svcdudes.com Cubist | makes me a NeXT programmer Software Ventures | maker of MicroPhone Pro #include <std.disclaimer> | really offensive political statement
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: kramer@fragile.termfrost.org (Mike Andrews) Subject: CDPlayer.app questions (not the usual ones) Message-ID: <CC0nEo.6zA@fragile.termfrost.org> Organization: Terminal Frost, Springfield OH Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1993 17:03:59 GMT Somehow today while flipping between windows, all of a sudden, this came up on the Console: -------- Catalog start -------- Tracks: 1, 9 "Lead out" track start: 55:13:20 Track: 1, Start Time 0:02:33, Control: 0 Track: 2, Start Time 5:14:48, Control: 0 Track: 3, Start Time 13:40:50, Control: 0 Track: 4, Start Time 17:53:13, Control: 0 Track: 5, Start Time 24:26:73, Control: 0 Track: 6, Start Time 32:58:25, Control: 0 Track: 7, Start Time 39:56:28, Control: 0 Track: 8, Start Time 44:36:45, Control: 0 Track: 9, Start Time 48:17:38, Control: 0 -------- Catalog done -------- Question: How'd I do that and how can I do it again? ;-) Are there any other un-obvious features hidden in this thing? Also: according to the alt.cd-rom FAQ, the Toshiba 3401B is supposed to be able to read CD audio off the disc to the CPU in raw digital data format with a sequence of odd SCSI read commands. Anyone got software written up to do this? Would make for some REAL nice sampling... :-) The Apple CD300 is supposed to be able to do this, also. Here's the relevant FAQ bits (for the Toshiba-- the Sony's s'posed to be different): For the Toshiba drives, you issue a MODE SELECT command with density code 0x82 and then all read's with an lba inside a digital audio track will return 2352 bytes audio samples / block. The format of a CD-DA sector, that the Toshiba XM-3401 returns, is not too complicated: each sector contains 2352 bytes, these are devided into 588 16-bit signed stereo samples of 4 bytes each. The 16-bit samples are returned in 'low byte first' (i386, ...) byte order. The 16-bit samples in the sector are intended alternating for the left and right channel, starting with the left channel. struct cdda_sector { struct cdda_sample { char left_channel_lsb; char left_channel_msb; char right_channel_lsb; char right_channel_msb; } samples[588]; }; -- Mike Andrews root@fragile.termfrost.org [NeXTmail OK] kramer@wittenberg.edu (school) "This guy's pretty bizarre, Gus." kramer@mik.uky.edu (hometown) -- Primus
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: rane+@cs.cmu.edu (Aaron Hughes) Subject: NSI educational deal - what and where? Message-ID: <CC1MKu.2zq.3@cs.cmu.edu> Sender: news@cs.cmu.edu (Usenet News System) Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1993 05:43:41 GMT What exactly does the educational deal include? Someone told me that it includes both the user and developer sections as well as the ability the upgrade to further releases of the OS for about $300. Also, where can I get it? Thanks, Aaron -- Aaron Hughes DoD#0482 The Freedom Junkie rane+@pulsar.fac.cs.cmu.edu Bad cop. No donut.
From: cpesch@markov.fmi.uni-passau.de (Christoph Pesch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXT-TeX questions Date: 20 Aug 1993 11:24:40 GMT Organization: University of Passau, Germany Message-ID: <CPESCH.93Aug20132441@markov.fmi.uni-passau.de> References: <CPESCH.93Aug16161649@markov.fmi.uni-passau.de> <70492@mimsy.umd.edu> In-reply-to: alex@cs.umd.edu's message of 19 Aug 93 00:45:26 GMT On 19 Aug 93 00:45:26 GMT, alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore) said: >>Can someone tell me if the sources for NeXT-TeX are available and from where? > /usr/lib/tex/src/texview Thank you for your answer! But I am looking for the sources for tex itself and not for the previewer texview. I do have the unix-tex-sources but I need the sources for the NeXT version. Christoph Pesch (cpesch@markov.fmi.uni-passau.de --- NO NeXT-Mail please!)
Control: cancel <1993Aug20.115604.20222@midway.uchicago.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: trivedi@yukawa.uchicago.edu (Anil Trivedi) Subject: cmsg cancel <1993Aug20.115604.20222@midway.uchicago.edu> Message-ID: <1993Aug20.120233.20534@midway.uchicago.edu> Originator: trivedi@yukawa.uchicago.edu Sender: news@uchinews.uchicago.edu (News System) Organization: Enrico Fermi Institute, University of Chicago References: <70492@mimsy.umd.edu> <CPESCH.93Aug20132441@markov.fmi.uni-passau.de> <1993Aug20.115604.20222@midway.uchicago.edu> Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1993 12:02:33 GMT <1993Aug20.115604.20222@midway.uchicago.edu> was cancelled from within trn.
From: jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Joseph W Reiss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: CDPlayer.app questions (not the usual ones) Date: 20 Aug 1993 12:41:23 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <252gpj$j24@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> References: <CC0nEo.6zA@fragile.termfrost.org> Kramer@fragile.termfrost.org (Mike Andrews) wrote... >Somehow today while flipping between windows, all of a sudden, this came up >on the Console: > > [...CD information deleted...] > >Question: How'd I do that and how can I do it again? ;-) >Are there any other un-obvious features hidden in this thing? Well, I don't know if this has anything to do with what you saw (I never looked in my console window after trying it), but if you click on the CD icon in the upper left corner of CDPlayer, you can cycle through a display of the time spent playing the current track, the time spent playing the entire CD so far, or the length of the entire CD. I only found it out by accident, so I guess I'd call it un-obvious. Joe -- __________ | NeXTMail accepted, but not preferred | |___) | """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" \_/OE | \EISS | Dammit, Jim. I'm a doctor, not a repository of witty `---- | remarks. Face it. Wit's dead, Jim.
From: mek@guinan.psu.edu (Mark E. Kotanchek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Adding a .sig to mail Date: 20 Aug 1993 12:49:30 GMT Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing Message-ID: <252h8q$dmf@genesis.ait.psu.edu> References: <CC0vMx.FG2@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca> In article <CC0vMx.FG2@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca> friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (Michael Friendly) writes: > People might note that Scott Hess has a nice TickleServices.app, available (I > believe) in submissions at cs.orst. > > It provides a host of mail services (quoting text, adding .sig, etc), as well > as file, archive and other services. what's more, it provides a general > scheme and language (Tcl) for adding services to any app. > You might also want to check out MailHelper from cs.orst. It doesn't automatically add your .sig; however, it isn't much of an imposition to type cmd-. before you type cmd-D. Mark. -- Mark Kotanchek Guidance & Control Dept - 363 ASB Applied Research Lab/Penn State P.O. Box 30 State College, PA 16804
From: carl@next2.sun1.mcsr.olemiss.edu (Carl Frederickson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Archie for NeXT Date: 20 Aug 1993 13:53:26 GMT Organization: Mississippi State University Message-ID: <252l0m$co@Tut.MsState.Edu> References: <1993Aug19.195818.25156@news.nd.edu> In article <1993Aug19.195818.25156@news.nd.edu> gross@stimpy.ame.nd.edu (George B. Ross) writes: > In article <CC0LKL.J58@ucdavis.edu> heberlei@cs.ucdavis.edu (Louis Todd > Heberlein) writes: > > I am looking for an Archie client for the NeXTstation (black hardware > > running 3.0). I found a package called Archie on Sonata, but it fails > > to install. Apparently the installation process requires files from > > superc.che.udel.edu, but attempts to retrieve the files fail (even > though > > I can reach the computer via finger). > > > > Does anyone know why I can't install the Archie package from Sonata? > > Does anyone know of any alternatives I could use? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Todd Heberlein heberlei@cs.ucdavis.edu > Todd, > I've had the same problem...so if anyone knows the answer please > post. > -george There is always Archie under Gopher. I have given up trying to install the Archie version I got off sonata and just use the Gopher version. You can get a copy of Gopher from boombox.micro.umn.edu:/pud/gopher/NeXT As long as you can connect to the Gopher server it works OK for me. Carl Frederickson carl@next2.ncpa.olemiss.edu
From: rao@tree.egr.uh.edu (Jagannatha Rao) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: followup to printing uppercase greek letters in Next-TeX. Date: 20 Aug 1993 14:16:34 GMT Organization: University of Houston Distribution: usa Message-ID: <252mc2$jrd@menudo.uh.edu> Thanks to all who replied to my Next-TeX question of yesterday. I was not able to print uppercase greek letters like $\Delta$ and $\Gamma$ in my document; they were just ignored by TeX (or dvips, whatever). Here is what I have figured out so far: I was using palatino.sty when this problem was happening. Using the palatino font, usual math equations print fine but uppercase greek letters still don't appear. If I use times.sty, everything is fine. Why is this? I looked at the two .sty files and could not make out where the problem is. There is no problem using cm fonts, of course. -- Jagannatha Rao E-mail:rao@tree.egr.uh.edu Department of Mechanical Engineering Tel :(713) 743-4535 University of Houston Fax :(713) 743-4503 Houston, TX 77204-4792
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (Michael Friendly) Subject: Emacs-2.1.tar.Z wont make under NS3.0 Message-ID: <CC2DF1.6q0@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca> Sender: news@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca (USENET News System) Organization: York University Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1993 15:23:25 GMT Emacs-2.1 (in ./binaries/editors on cs.orst.edu) is a nice NeXT front end for emacs which I used a while ago under NS2.1. It will not compile under NS 3.0, as many, many entries in the makefile.dependencies file are different. Does anyone know of an updated source, or NS3.x binary for this? -- Michael Friendly Internet: friendly@vm1.yorku.ca Psychology Department NeXTmail: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca York University 4700 Keele Street Toronto, ONT M3J 1P3 CANADA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mark@cyantic.com (Mark T. Dornfeld) Subject: Re: CDPlayer.app questions (not the usual ones) Organization: CYANTIC Systems Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1993 16:27:00 GMT Message-ID: <1993Aug20.162700.17900@cyantic.com> References: <CC0nEo.6zA@fragile.termfrost.org> <252gpj$j24@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> In article <252gpj$j24@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Joseph W Reiss) writes: >Kramer@fragile.termfrost.org (Mike Andrews) wrote... >>Somehow today while flipping between windows, all of a sudden, this came up >>on the Console: >> >> [...CD information deleted...] >> >>Question: How'd I do that and how can I do it again? ;-) >>Are there any other un-obvious features hidden in this thing? > >Well, I don't know if this has anything to do with what you saw (I >never looked in my console window after trying it), but if you click >on the CD icon in the upper left corner of CDPlayer, you can cycle >through a display of the time spent playing the current track, the >time spent playing the entire CD so far, or the length of the entire >CD. I only found it out by accident, so I guess I'd call it >un-obvious. Rather than hidden features, I'd rather see CDPlayer improved to handle some database-like chores to manage audio CD's. A product called 'workman' for Sun will allow titling and descriptions of the CD, which tracks to play, default volume for the CD, preferred sequence, and a bunch of other useful stuff. I'd also like a labeling application so I can print a label for cassettes after recording a CD. Any takers, or is something already out there? -- Mark T. Dornfeld, CYANTIC Systems Voice: (416) 234-9048 101 Subway Crescent Suite 2103 Facsimile: (416) 234-0477 Etobicoke, Ontario, M9B 6K4 CANADA Email: mark@cyantic.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: willers@itp.unibe.ch (Moritz Willers) Subject: Re: followup to printing uppercase greek letters in Next-TeX. Message-ID: <1993Aug20.162215.2774@aragorn.unibe.ch> Sender: news@aragorn.unibe.ch Organization: University of Berne, Switzerland References: <252mc2$jrd@menudo.uh.edu> Distribution: usa Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1993 16:22:15 GMT In article <252mc2$jrd@menudo.uh.edu> rao@tree.egr.uh.edu (Jagannatha Rao) writes: > Thanks to all who replied to my Next-TeX question of yesterday. > > I was not able to print uppercase greek letters like $\Delta$ and $\Gamma$ in > my document; they were just ignored by TeX (or dvips, whatever). Here is what > I have figured out so far: > > I was using palatino.sty when this problem was happening. Using the palatino > font, usual math equations print fine but uppercase greek letters still don't > appear. If I use times.sty, everything is fine. Why is this? I looked at the > two .sty files and could not make out where the problem is. > > There is no problem using cm fonts, of course. > > > > -- > Jagannatha Rao E-mail:rao@tree.egr.uh.edu > Department of Mechanical Engineering Tel :(713) 743-4535 > University of Houston Fax :(713) 743-4503 > Houston, TX 77204-4792 use psgreek.sty with other postscript fonts than times -- Moritz Willers Institute for Theoretical Physics, Berne Switzerland willers@itp.unibe.ch
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: nando@ccrma.stanford.edu (Fernando Pablo Lopez Lezcano) Subject: Re: Emacs-2.1.tar.Z wont make under NS3.0 Message-ID: <1993Aug20.165818.20640@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: Stanford University References: <CC2DF1.6q0@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca> Date: Fri, 20 Aug 93 16:58:18 GMT Michael Friendly writes > Emacs-2.1 (in ./binaries/editors on cs.orst.edu) is a nice NeXT front end for > emacs which I used a while ago under NS2.1. > It will not compile under NS 3.0, as many, many entries in the > makefile.dependencies file are different. > > Does anyone know of an updated source, or NS3.x binary for this? > Try Emacs-3.0, it was modified to work under 3.x and has a number of new features. I found it right now using Archie in the submissions directory of nova.cc.purdue.edu. Seems to be the only place in the States. Hope this helps! -- Fernando nando@ccrma.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc From: heberlei@cs.ucdavis.edu (Louis Todd Heberlein) Subject: Thanks for Archie! Message-ID: <CC2IH8.8wq@ucdavis.edu> Keywords: Archie, NeXT Sender: usenet@ucdavis.edu (News Administrator) Organization: University of California, Davis Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1993 17:12:43 GMT Thanks a million to everyone who helped me with my problem installing Archie on my NeXT! The problem I was having was due to the fact that the package on sonata required anonymous FTP access to superc.che.udel.edu in order to download the actual files (neat way to reduce storage space on sonata). Unfortunately, superc.che.udel.edu no longer allows anonymous FTP. Fortunately, several of you pointed out that cs.orst.edu had a complete copy in /pub/next/binaries/wide-area-info (which also has gopher!). Two also sent the package via NeXTmail; Isn't multimedia mail wonderful! Once again, thanks a million for all your help! Todd Heberlein heberlei@cs.ucdavis.edu
From: stoney@oyster.smcm.edu (Stanley Toney) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Looking for Bar code generators Date: 20 Aug 1993 18:55:41 GMT Organization: University of Maryland, College Park Message-ID: <2536nd$68u@umd5.umd.edu> My Sysadmin showed me an old bar code thing from joe freeman. Does anyone know of others for the Next interface or where an update might be found. He remembers there are other bar code generators. Or alternatively a Postscript Barcode font. I need to do 3 of 9 bar codes in a 3x10 sheet. the only font i have found to date is a TrueType font and it does not convert well through a postscript interpreter. thanks in advance. stan -- Stanley Toney stoney@oyster.smcm.edu NeXTMail - OK Division of Mathematics and Natural Sciences St. Mary's College of Maryland St. Marys City MD 20686 my opinions are my own, not my employers
From: fischedj@ NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (David J. Fischer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NSI educational deal - what and where? Date: 20 Aug 1993 19:12:03 GMT Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology Message-ID: <2537m3$m4p@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu> References: <CC1MKu.2zq.3@cs.cmu.edu> In article <CC1MKu.2zq.3@cs.cmu.edu> rane+@cs.cmu.edu (Aaron Hughes) writes: > What exactly does the educational deal include? Someone > told me that it includes both the user and developer sections > as well as the ability the upgrade to further releases of > the OS for about $300. Also, where can I get it? > > Thanks, > > Aaron > > -- > Aaron Hughes DoD#0482 The Freedom Junkie > rane+@pulsar.fac.cs.cmu.edu Bad cop. No donut. You get: NS User, NS Developer (although you don't have a license to sell applications written with your developer kit), a free upgrade to 3.2. I purchased my copy through my campus bookstore. The cost (for me) was $252 including tax. -- David J. Fischer : fischedj@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu "Je chante bien, tres bien, merci beaucoup, a la garcon. I don't know the language but I got the accent down" -- John Austin (& and the Embarrassing Young)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: riley@nextchair.uwlax.edu (David Riley) Subject: NewsGrazer fat? Message-ID: <1993Aug20.175245.14238@purelogic.cs.uwlax.edu> Keywords: news, usenet Sender: usenet@purelogic.cs.uwlax.edu (News Poster) Organization: University of Wisconsin - La Crosse Computer Science Department Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1993 17:52:45 GMT I'm confident someone has already raised the issue. Is their an Intel version of NewsGrazer? If so, where? David Riley (riley@csfac.uwlax.edu) University of Wisconsin - La Crosse
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: wwright@shell.portal.com (Bradly William Wright) Subject: Ghostscript for NeXT? Message-ID: <CC2tIA.401@unix.portal.com> Keywords: Ghostscript, HP deskjet Sender: news@unix.portal.com Organization: Portal Communications Company Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1993 21:10:56 GMT Has anyone ported ghostscript to the Next. I'm trying to get my Deskjet to print. Brad Wright wwright@shell.portal.com wwright@premisys.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: andrew@stone.com (Andrew Stone) Subject: CMYK TIFF seps - it's a cinch with TIFFany Message-ID: <1993Aug20.203742.1623@stone.com> Keywords: CMYK,TIFFany Sender: andrew@stone.com Organization: Stone Design Corp Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1993 20:37:42 GMT A few weeks ago I posted how we *used to* get TIFF's converted to CMYK by using sneakernet and Adobe PhotoShop on the mac because AppSoft Image and Virtuoso's CMYK conversions failed to separate and RIP correctly. We got a demo of TIFFany from Caffeine software's US distributors, BenchMark Development. It did both the gamma corrections [converting to CMYK usually creates very muddy images] and the CMYK conversion very easily, and the local Lino house ripped the seps with no trouble at all. So there is a NEXTSTEP solution, and I hear they are working on an even better 2.0 rev. I have no connection with these people other than being a happy user of a very cool program. Thought I'd share the good news.... andrew PS: you can reach BenchMark at info@bmd.com or 1 800 872 3131 and Caffeine at caffeine@caffeine.ch. Gee, I wonder what their drug of choice is? -- ||<<->>||<<==>>||<<++>>||<<?>>||<<+>>||<<-->>||<<==>>||<<+>>|| !! Andrew Stone !! (505) 345-4800 !! !! andrew@stone.com <> Stone Design Corp !! ||<<->>||<<==>>||<<++>>||<<?>>||<<+>>||<<-->>||<<==>>||<<+>>||
From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP is a memory HOG! Date: 21 Aug 1993 13:17:27 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <255797$sgc@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <24gpam$2ut@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> Keywords: NESTSTEP MEMORY HOG DISK SPACE jmb@merit.edu (Jim Blum) writes: >60% of its memory! I could understand NEXTSTEP needing 8 megs to run, but >over 12 megs of RAM just to load the system? Someone needs to trim this thing >down to size. Welcome to UNIX Graphical User Environments. It's just not DOS. That's a Good Thing (tm). Guess what, Win NT will need a comparable amount of RAM. (and it's not even UNIX! Imagine what a real UNIX from Microsoft might take!) -- David Lemson (217) 244-1205 University of Illinois Computing & Comm Services Office System Administrator Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu UUCP :...!uiucuxc!uiucux1!lemson NeXTMail & MIME accepted BITNET : LEMSON@UIUCVMD
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: kluge@avalon.physik.unizh.ch (Daniel G. Kluge) Subject: Re: NeXTTeX_update: doesn't work ! Message-ID: <1993Aug21.150847.25204@ifi.unizh.ch> Sender: news@ifi.unizh.ch (USENET News Admin) Organization: University of Zurich, Department of Computer Science References: <hschulz.744907430@rzdspc12> <1993Aug16.210312.547@cube.sublink.org> Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1993 15:08:47 GMT Arrigo Benedetti (arrigo@cube.sublink.org) wrote: : In article <hschulz.744907430@rzdspc12> : hschulz@rzdspc12.informatik.uni-hamburg.de (Heiko Schulz) writes: : > kluge@avalon.physik.unizh.ch (Daniel G. Kluge) writes: : > : > >I just downloaded NeXTTeX_Update.tar.Z and installed the new inputs and : > >binaries, as described in the README-File, but when I tried to : recompile : > >the .fmt files I got an error > : > >vis-next# initex plain : > >! tex.pool doesn't match; tangle me again. : > : What is this update about? : -Arrigo : -- : Arrigo Benedetti e-mail: arrigo@cube.sublink.org (preferred) : University of Bologna benedett@deis01.cineca.it : Tel: (home) +39 59 224929 (office) +39 59 216688 : (fax) +39 59 220727 - I WILL DESIGN CHIPS FOR FOOD! - it was an Update for the NeXT-TeX package of NS 2.x, and is now rather obsolete :-) - daniel -- Daniel G. Kluge @ Swiss Federal Institute of Technology Zuerich E-Mail : kluge@avalon.physik.unizh.ch (NeXT-Mail welcome) study-related stuff : dankluge@iiic.ethz.ch DECnet : EZINFO::CLUESCH
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: rane+@cs.cmu.edu (Aaron Hughes) Subject: 3.2 - when? Message-ID: <CC4KG0.KyJ.3@cs.cmu.edu> Sender: news@cs.cmu.edu (Usenet News System) Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1993 19:50:24 GMT Anybody have any idea when 3.2 will be released - I haven't been watching too closely, so I may have missed any announcement that came through. -- Aaron Hughes DoD#0482 The Freedom Junkie rane+@pulsar.fac.cs.cmu.edu Bad cop. No donut.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Mathmatica on NeXT & IBM questions Message-ID: <1993Aug22.002423.1@vax2.winona.msus.edu> From: surion@vax2.winona.msus.edu Date: 22 Aug 93 00:24:23 CDT Organization: Winona State University Hello to all you out there on the internet... I need some help. I'm taking both Calculus and Physics this year, and need to use Mathmatica. The question arises here: I have a next cube at home (w/ 2,88 floppy drive) and may need to be able to use my Mathmatica files on an IBM running Mathmatica. So... 1. will my next mount IBM formatted disks (either HD or DD)? 2. will Mathmatica understand files from another machine; are the data structures of the files (not apps) the same? 3. can I use either of my Mac printers (stylewriter and Image writer II) with the next? Are there printer drivers out there to be had? 4. Is there anything else I should know regarding the above? Thanks so much in advance. answers (even partial :-) to these questions would be greatly appreciated seth o----------------o---------------------------------------o---------------o | (?) Stick- | Seth Urion | 662 Main St. | | _|_ figure | <surion@vax2.winona.msus.edu> | Winona, MN | | / \ Graphix | bloom county rules! well, ruled :-[ | 55987 USA | o----------------o---------------------------------------o---------------o If this .sig appears twice, don't kill me. The vax has only been posting it about every other time so...
From: mycroft@monolith.utexas.edu (Alex Currier) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Seeking Software Suggestions Date: 22 Aug 1993 08:06:41 GMT Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas Message-ID: <2579eh$41a@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> There are a couple of applications I need to buy and I would appreciate some comments and suggestions about what is available, general features, what to buy and what not to buy, where to get it, all that. Any comments (including advertisements) are welcome. Please respond via mail. I will summarize and post. The areas in which I need suggestions: Personal financial management. Up to now I have been using Managing Your Money for Macintosh. I would like something for NeXTSTEP which supports multiple accounts and transfers between them, budgeting, possibly charting of income and expenditures, budgeted vs. actuals, projected income, whatnot. I don't need it to print checks or manage investments. Image manipulation. Something I can use to open various formats and save to various formats (TIFF, GIF, JPG) plus do minor editing work, cut and paste, blending, occasional text overlay. Nothing really serious. Personal calendar/time manager. Something like NOW Up-To-Date for Macintosh. Monthly, weekly and daily calendars, repeating appointments, alarms, etc. Telephone/Address manager. Something nice and small (small screen footprint) with a logical information layout to store names, addresses, numbers and notes. Cost isn't of primary importance. Logical interface and flexibility/power are. Thank you in advance for your help. -- ==================================== Alex Currier mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu Multiple Architecture NeXTSTEP User NeXTmail preferred! ====================================
Newsgroups: comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer From: westes@netcom.com (Will Estes) Subject: Deciding Between UNIXWARE And NeXTSTEP? Message-ID: <westesCC6ELA.77I@netcom.com> Organization: Mail Group Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1993 19:39:09 GMT I am interested in getting information from others about the relative costs and merits of UNIXWARE versus NeXTSTEP as a general-purpose UNIX machine. Specifically, the requirements are: - support for SMTPD - support for standard UNIX mailers like elm - support for POP3 servers - support for IMAP servers - support for INND news server - support for generic UNIX x-clients - support for Motif x-clients - support for generic UNIX development tools like gcc/awk/sed/perl, etc. etc. I gather that UNIXWARE is the more standard UNIX-based architecture, but that many of these tools have not been ported yet. What about NeXTSTEP? It's proprietary nature is both a plus and a minus, but if all of the above already exist and are stable there this might not be as big an issue. Which of the environments presents a bigger porting challenge for a typical UNIX command-line or x-based application? -- Will Estes Internet: westes@netcom.com
From: jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.EDU (Joseph W Reiss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Amiga->Renderman (?) Date: 22 Aug 1993 19:49:24 -0400 Organization: The Ohio State University Sender: daemon@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Message-ID: <9308222348.AA15002@magnusug.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Well, in response to my inquiries about 3D Trek models, the only ones I've found are in Amiga Sculpt3D or VideoScape format. I made one of NCC-1701D using CAD-3D on an Atari ST. If anyone knows of a convertor that can turn any of these files into Renderman, then we might be able to have some Trek ships to play with. Otherwise, things don't look good until someone with 3D Reality or one of the other modelling packages creates one from scratch. BTW, I've gotten so many "Me too" queries from the net, I'll summarize any responses I get on csn.misc regarding these models. Later, Joe -- __________ | NeXTMail accepted, but not preferred | |___) | """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" \_/OE | \EISS | IBM isn't really that bad. In fact, they only have `---- | two problems: their hardware and their software.
From: ddaniel@bard.MIT.EDU (Daniel E. Bromberg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: 3.2 - when? Date: 23 Aug 1993 00:30:53 GMT Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology Message-ID: <25933t$aui@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> References: <CC4KG0.KyJ.3@cs.cmu.edu> In article <CC4KG0.KyJ.3@cs.cmu.edu> rane+@cs.cmu.edu (Aaron Hughes) writes: > > Anybody have any idea when 3.2 will be released - I haven't been watching > too closely, so I may have missed any announcement that came through. When I called NeXT, they told me it would probably be released late this fall (october.) Daniel Bromberg ddaniel@athena.mit.edu
Newsgroups: comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer From: mark@taylor.uucp (Mark A. Davis) Subject: Re: Deciding Between UNIXWARE And NeXTSTEP? Organization: Lake Taylor Hospital Computer Services Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1993 00:43:34 GMT Message-ID: <1993Aug23.004334.26476@taylor.uucp> References: <westesCC6ELA.77I@netcom.com> westes@netcom.com (Will Estes) writes: >I am interested in getting information from others about the >relative costs and merits of UNIXWARE versus NeXTSTEP as a >general-purpose UNIX machine. >I gather that UNIXWARE is the more standard UNIX-based architecture, >but that many of these tools have not been ported yet. What about >NeXTSTEP? It's proprietary nature is both a plus and a minus, but >if all of the above already exist and are stable there this might >not be as big an issue. I would veer away from any OS which is non main-stream. It seems Next is going out of their way to produce *YET ANOTHER* flavor of Unix and make it different and incompatible enough to be dysfunctional. I have heard NextStep is great looking and technically competitive, but in a world where Unix vendors should be and are trying to come together, Nt seems to be following the old mentality. I predict their failure unless they pull closer to other Unixes and fast! Does it support COFF? No. Does it support ELF? I don't think so. Who is going to port software to it (especially commercial software), when there are many other ESTABLISHED OS's to be considered first- SCO, Sun, V.4.2, DEC, etc... Applications make or break the OS. And if you are not application driven, then why not consider Linux? It is a lot more mainstream and likely to stay around longer. And it is certanly a whole lot cheaper than NextStep. (EEEK, SCO is cheaper, and it has 1000's of applications and has been around forever). >Which of the environments presents a bigger porting challenge for a >typical UNIX command-line or x-based application? Certainly X. Nextstep doesn't even use this standard Unix windowing system. Did they improve on X? Not really. Is it compatible with X? No. Will there be Next Windows Terminals? No. Did they even build on X? No. This just seems very strange. -- /--------------------------------------------------------------------------\ | Mark A. Davis | Lake Taylor Hospital | Norfolk, VA (804)-461-5001x431 | | Sys.Administrator| Computer Services | mark@taylor.wyvern.com .uucp | \--------------------------------------------------------------------------/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: tlm@tantalus.scl.ameslab.gov (Tom Marchioro) Subject: Re: Seeking Software Suggestions Message-ID: <CC6xo3.22H@news.iastate.edu> Sender: news@news.iastate.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA References: <2579eh$41a@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1993 02:31:15 GMT Alex Currier writes []There are a couple of applications I need to buy and I would appreciate some []comments and suggestions about what is available, general features, what to []buy and what not to buy, where to get it, all that. Any comments (including []advertisements) are welcome. Please respond via mail. I will summarize and []post. [] []The areas in which I need suggestions: [] []Personal calendar/time manager. Something like NOW Up-To-Date for Macintosh. []Monthly, weekly and daily calendars, repeating appointments, alarms, etc. [] Actually, I think that Date is just fine for most "personal" use. Schedules quite nicely, and you can get notifications by E-mail (the only sure way to get my attention :) If you want a more powerful for sale application, check out Pencil Me In. []Telephone/Address manager. Something nice and small (small screen footprint) []with a logical information layout to store names, addresses, numbers and []notes. [] Could there be anything better than SBook? Of course, SBook would be better if Simson would add a "salutation" field as well as the ability to do bulk physical mail (**Simson** I **have** mentioned both of these to you before :) [] []Cost isn't of primary importance. Logical interface and flexibility/power are. Gee, I'd like to have your job. . . . -- Dr. Thomas L. Marchioro II Two-wheeled theoretical physicist Center for Physical and Computational Mathematics 515-294-6629 Ames Laboratory 515-233-1216 (home) Ames, Iowa 50011 tlm@iastate.edu
Newsgroups: comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer From: bstone@acs.ucalgary.ca (Blake Stone) Subject: Re: Deciding Between UNIXWARE And NeXTSTEP? Message-ID: <Aug23.025415.31923@acs.ucalgary.ca> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1993 02:54:15 GMT References: <westesCC6ELA.77I@netcom.com> <1993Aug23.004334.26476@taylor.uucp> Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta > > I am interested in getting information from others about the > > relative costs and merits of UNIXWARE versus NeXTSTEP as a > > general-purpose UNIX machine. > > > > I gather that UNIXWARE is the more standard UNIX-based > > architecture, but that many of these tools have not been > > ported yet. What about NeXTSTEP? It's proprietary nature is > > both a plus and a minus, but if all of the above already > > exist and are stable there this might not be as big an issue. NeXTSTEP provides a pretty standard BSD face, so getting most UNIX tools up an running is pretty straightforward. Are there any in particular you are looking for? Noteworthy problems at this point: Sun's NFS sources have a broken file-locking mechanism, so NeXT's initial approach was to disable it entirely. I haven't heard anything more encouraging since. Also, if you're looking at the Intel version there are certainly problems with the serial port that are temporary in nature. NeXT has a fixed serial driver that is available on a limited basis with a public release scheduled any day now. However, if you need UUCP / SLIP right NOW, NeXTSTEP will disappoint you for another week or two. Despite the proprietary face, NeXTSTEP works well in a standard UNIX environment, so you can take advantage of NeXT-specific features while not sufferring incompatibility with the rest of the world. On the standards side, a straightforward VT100 terminal emulator and TN3270 come bundled, and wonderful emulations are available for a wide variety of other terminal types. Third-party X-Windows packages allow X apps to run side-by-side with NeXTSTEP and provide development tools necessary to write X apps using a NeXTSTEP machine. Despite internal use of NetInfo, NeXT's work fine with YP or NIS in a networked environment. On the NeXTSTEP side: NetInfo is a GREAT network management system once you take the time to learn and understand it. The whole NeXT windowing system is very elegant, based on a unified imaging model using Display PostScript. Having a sophisticated object-oriented development environment is wonderful if you're lucky enough to be able to target NeXTSTEP for deployment, but it works just as well for prototyping and personal productivity apps. Having Objective-C side by side with ANSI-C and C++ bundled in one package (assuming you buy the development tools) is a godsend. > I would veer away from any OS which is non main-stream. Then stick to DOS / Windows. > It seems NeXT is going out of their way to produce *YET > ANOTHER* flavor of Unix and make it different and incompatible > enough to be dysfunctional. They are simply taking a standard UNIX flavour (BSD), putting it on top of a decent kernel architecture (Mach) and extending it where current technology doesn't provide an adequate solution for a system designed to be used by end users (NetInfo). > I have heard NextStep is great looking and technically > competitive, but in a world where Unix vendors should be and > are trying to come together, NT seems to be following the old > mentality. I predict their failure unless they pull closer to > other Unixes and fast! NT? I assume you mean NeXTSTEP. The "coming together" of other vendors is a dream that will never come true. Sure I agree that there should be commonality at some level, but ALL vendors will try to differentiate themselves with additional functionality. Otherwise, why buy one vendor's product over another? The indistinguishable "common UNIX" will never happen. NeXT has given every indication of adopting standards that prove to be important to their users, not every standard that comes along. Hence, their commitment to POSIX, CORBA and DCE. If COSE actually produces something coherent which the market likes, I would suspect NeXTSTEP would migrate to support it. > Does it support COFF? No. Does it support ELF? I don't think > so. I don't know on either front, so I won't address it. Neither has been an issue for me. > Who is going to port software to it (especially commercial > software) ... WordPerfect? Oracle? Sybase? Insignia? Altsys? > ... when there are many other ESTABLISHED OS's to be considered > first-SCO, Sun, V.4.2, DEC, etc... Applications make or break > the OS. I agree, so application vendors will port applications to an environment that appeals to their user base. Many of the environments you refer to appeal to a technical and scientific user base, but don't carry so well in a standard business environment. Why does Sun lose so many financial, government and commercial hardware deals to NeXT? Because NeXT provides an ideal end-user environment (I should know, I was part of TWO such major competitions). > And if you are not application driven, then why not consider > Linux? And you said earlier "I would veer away from any OS which is non main-stream" and "Applications make or break the OS". The original poster asked about NeXTSTEP and UnixWare. > > Which of the environments presents a bigger porting challenge > > for a typical UNIX command-line or x-based application? Any command-line or X application designed to compile on a BSD system should have little or no trouble with a NeXTSTEP based system. For X applications you will need a third-party X terminal emulator and development libraries. > Certainly X. Nextstep doesn't even use this standard Unix > windowing system. Check again, NeXTSTEP certainly CAN use the X environment, side-by-side with native applications, it just isn't the standard windowing system under NeXTSTEP. > Did they improve on X? Not really. Care to back that up? Full Display PostScript Level II with device-independant color, an object-oriented development toolset, an end-user oriented environment and a MUCH more consistant look and feel (from Print Panels, Font Panels, Save Panels, Color Panels to menu layout and spell checking, NeXTSTEP applications share an incredible degree of commonality, beyond what you see on the Mac or Windows, never mind X which is a hodge-podge of interfaces). > Is it compatible with X? No. Ahem. Read above, again. > Will there be Next Windows Terminals? No. How can you state this for certain? Like X, NeXTSTEP can redirect input / output to another device on the net. Currently this has to be a NeXTSTEP equipped system, but there is no technical reason why a terminal couldn't be designed. There are no such devices available now. However, NeXTSTEP will run on quite inexpensive PC's. > Did they even build on X? No. This just seems very strange. Given their goals, it certainly does not. Even more so if you consider the state X was in when they originally evaluated it (what, 1986?). X STILL falls short in areas important to NeXTSTEP's designers. -- Blake W. Stone | DKW Systems Corporation Chief Technical Officer | A N[EXTSTEP,eXT[STEP,step,Step]] VAR bstone@acs.ucalgary.ca | | ... couldn't have been ME
Newsgroups: comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer From: duane@shell.portal.com (Duane Takamine) Subject: Re: Deciding Between UNIXWARE And NeXTSTEP? Message-ID: <CC7L5B.8Hz@unix.portal.com> Sender: news@unix.portal.com Organization: Portal Communications Company -- 408/973-9111 (voice) 408/973-8091 (data) References: <westesCC6ELA.77I@netcom.com> <1993Aug23.004334.26476@taylor.uucp> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1993 10:58:21 GMT In article <1993Aug23.004334.26476@taylor.uucp> mark@taylor.uucp (Mark A. Davis) writes: >westes@netcom.com (Will Estes) writes: > >>I am interested in getting information from others about the >>relative costs and merits of UNIXWARE versus NeXTSTEP as a >>general-purpose UNIX machine. > >>I gather that UNIXWARE is the more standard UNIX-based architecture, >>but that many of these tools have not been ported yet. What about >>NeXTSTEP? It's proprietary nature is both a plus and a minus, but >>if all of the above already exist and are stable there this might >>not be as big an issue. > >I would veer away from any OS which is non main-stream. It seems Next is >going out of their way to produce *YET ANOTHER* flavor of Unix and make it >different and incompatible enough to be dysfunctional. Actually, I think they simply feel that the Unix level is not as important as others do. Most users interact with the NS GUI environment, which is where they are putting most of their effort (and of course altering the kernel to support any changes they want to make at the NS GUI level). However, for the most part, the differences between NeXT Unix and any other tend to be more annoying than crippling. I would not call it dysfunctional. > >I have heard NextStep is great looking and technically competitive, but in >a world where Unix vendors should be and are trying to come together, Nt >seems to be following the old mentality. I predict their failure unless >they pull closer to other Unixes and fast! I agree that as a long term goal, NeXT should make their Unix layer conform to whatever the final, final, final version of Unix becomes. I am not as convinced as many others that that Unix is "obviously" this or "obviously" that, and even SVR4 is evolving (not radically, of course). So conforming is not just a simple task in and of itself, given the resources available to Next. Their focus is with their prime technology. The most "great looking" and "technically competitive" portions of NS have little or nothing to do with Unix (the NS environment, IB/PB, object kits, DPS, RenderMan, etc). Your prediction misses the point altogether. NeXT's fate has nothing really to do with the fate of Unix in general. General acceptance of Unix in the business community can help NeXT, but whether there is unity in the Unix community or not changes nothing with NeXT. Most NeXT apps are not as tightly coupled with the Unix API, and those NeXT-specific apps are really what sell NS. Perhaps you think that NeXT's goals are to capture 25% of the Unix market or maybe all of it. If so, yes they will fail, but most people in the NeXT community and I would think most people at NeXT would consider NeXT a success if they simply achieve successes in several niche markets which are capable of supporting the company and fund advances in the technology. It would be great, from my point of view, if NS was free and preloaded on every system on the planet, but the truth of it is that most people don't currently need all that NS provides, and thus shouldn't have to pay for it. However, many either need or can make productive use of NS technology, and those people should have it. I'd consider that an all around success. > >Does it support COFF? No. Does it support ELF? I don't think so. >Who is going to port software to it (especially commercial software), when >there are many other ESTABLISHED OS's to be considered first- SCO, Sun, >V.4.2, DEC, etc... Applications make or break the OS. I'll take the risk of sounding like a serious NeXT bigot and also of potentially being in great disagreement with lots of NeXT users. My own experience is that given the choice, NeXT users don't want *ports* of software, they want NeXT native software that has the same capabilities and works in comparable fashion, with all of the NeXT goodies added in integrated fashion. In otherwords, Wordperfect is nice to have on the NeXT, but but a written-for-NeXT-from-scratch word processor would probably be much nicer. Yes! Applications make or break an OS. People buy NS because 1) You can write your own custom software much, much faster than on any other platform, and in a business setting, that can be worth serious money. Even reducing development time in half can save several hundred thousand dollars, which pays for NeXTstep, extra memory, gargantuan hard drives, cable tv, the porsche, and a heated pool. 2) Commercial shrink wrapped apps tend to be of higher quality than on other platforms, and are nearly always more powerful, by virtue of running in the NS environment, and by virtue of NS freeing the developer to invest the time and effort to increase the power of their apps. People buy Unixware, or Solaris, or even Windows to run the apps that everyone else runs. People buy NS when they want to run better apps than those, or if the app they need doesn't exist anywhere, and they have to write it themselves. Apps sell all OS's, adn NeXT is no exception. > >And if you are not application driven, then why not consider Linux? >It is a lot more mainstream and likely to stay around longer. And it is >certanly a whole lot cheaper than NextStep. (EEEK, SCO is cheaper, >and it has 1000's of applications and has been around forever). I'll ignore the claim of Linux to be mainstream, and in fact I consider Linux to be a worthy and rather successful effort. BUT, NS has been around for a while now, and blithely stating that Linux has a better chance of staying around than NS is not a fair statement. NS defenders will claim the same ground as the Linux supporters, namely that if NeXT were to disappear tomorrow, many NS users would continue to support the platform to keep it going, and furthermore NS has a head start in many technologies which give NS supporters lots of breathing room before NS becomes obsolete, probably years. > >>Which of the environments presents a bigger porting challenge for a >>typical UNIX command-line or x-based application? > >Certainly X. Nextstep doesn't even use this standard Unix windowing system. >Did they improve on X? Not really. Is it compatible with X? No. >Will there be Next Windows Terminals? No. Did they even build on X? No. >This just seems very strange. This comparing NS to X is really starting to get under my skin. The COMPONENT of NS roughtly equivalent to X is DPS. The NS GUI is built on DPS, and the environment which coexists with the GUI has additional functionality. There is only one reason for supporting X, and that is to allow the running of X apps. Whether or not the NS GUI is itself built on X is totally irrelevant. And you can get X running on NeXT just like any other Unix platform. So this "compatible with X" thing is a completely vaporous criticism, as is "built with X." Now, why did they not build on X, which the poster thinks is strange. I would say that it is a safe bet that more than 100 times the man hours have gone into making simple X dev tools as have gone into making all of NeXTstep combined. Where is IB/PB for X? Either the NS implementation solves a lot of problems which X cannot, or pretty much everyone working outside of NeXT is a moron. Which of these two are you willing to accept? Now, the terminal argumment is valid. There are no DPS terminals, and there doesn't seem to be any on the horizon. Here, though, you are on somewhat philosophical ground. X terminals are popular now, kind of Wang word processors were popular once. That does not mean they will always be so. I never cared for terminals myself. I would prefer to be working in a client-server network where there is a real CPU on my desk. I understand the cost equations that X terminals solve, but personally I think terminals (X or otherwise) are at best a stopgap solution until the compute needs on the desk outstrip terminal capabilities and compute-power prices drop to the point where it is cost effective to buy general CPUs over terminals. Certainly, even now many business situations call for a CPU on every desk, and in those cases, NS power comes in handy. Put it this way, there is no such thing as a Windows 3.1 terminal, or a Mac Quickdraw terminal, but that does not severely hurt those platforms, because that is not the market they are targetting. The market NS targets happens to be those in which lots of power is desired everywhere; power either to process information or to present it in as human friendly a manner as possible (which also often requires serious crunching). There, terminals are useless, and therefore unneeded. Duane -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Duane Takamine duane@shell.portal.com Island CD Creations Madd Hacker Productions Home of the Sound Site CDROM - nearly 1400 mods on disc
From: js@balu.hnv.icem.de (Juergen Sell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: 3D - CAD - Software ? Date: 23 Aug 1993 10:33:11 GMT Organization: ICEM Systems Message-ID: <25a6d7$jlq@balu.hnv.icem.de> Hello, I wonder if there is any 'real' 3D - CAD Software running on NeXTs? Seems to me like it must be a hell of a job to circumvent the bottleneck od DPS dealing with 3D. If yoy know of any such program, please let me know. -- _ _ Juergen Sell E-Mail juergen.sell@icem.de ' | (_ Icem Systems ( NeXTMail welcome ) ,| _) Deisterstr. 18 Fax ++49-511-440617 (_| BRD 30449 Hannover Fon ++49-511-440688
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) Subject: Re: CDPlayer.app questions (not the usual ones) In-Reply-To: kramer@fragile.termfrost.org's message of 19 Aug 93 17:03:59 GMT To: kramer@fragile.termfrost.org (Mike Andrews) Message-ID: <CEDMAN.93Aug20094904@capitalist.princeton.edu> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University References: <CC0nEo.6zA@fragile.termfrost.org> Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1993 13:49:03 GMT In article <CC0nEo.6zA@fragile.termfrost.org> kramer@fragile.termfrost.org (Mike Andrews) writes: Question: How'd I do that and how can I do it again? ;-) Are there any other un-obvious features hidden in this thing? Also: according to the alt.cd-rom FAQ, the Toshiba 3401B is supposed to be able to read CD audio off the disc to the CPU in raw digital data format with a sequence of odd SCSI read commands. Anyone got software written up to do this? Would make for some REAL nice sampling... :-) The Apple CD300 is supposed to be able to do this, also. Here's the relevant FAQ bits (for the Toshiba-- the Sony's s'posed to be different): Yep, I wrote such a program a few months ago. So far it works just fine on black machines, though I've not tested it on Intels with Toshibas and 16 bit soundcards yet. The major reason it is not on the archives yet is that I've been too lazy writing the documentation. Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) Subject: Re: Deciding Between UNIXWARE And NeXTSTEP? In-Reply-To: westes@netcom.com's message of Sun, 22 Aug 1993 19:39:09 GMT To: westes@netcom.com (Will Estes) Message-ID: <CEDMAN.93Aug22173930@capitalist.princeton.edu> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University References: <westesCC6ELA.77I@netcom.com> Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1993 21:39:30 GMT In article <westesCC6ELA.77I@netcom.com> westes@netcom.com (Will Estes) writes: - support for SMTPD Actually, it is sendmail, but it comes with every NeXT and supports SMTP. Yes, this is the same sendmail which transmits mail on a majority of the workstations in the world. - support for standard UNIX mailers like elm All the standard mailers (including elm) compile just fine on NeXTs. - support for POP3 servers - support for IMAP servers - support for INND news server All of these are no problem. - support for generic UNIX x-clients - support for Motif x-clients This is harder. NeXTs as shipped do not run X windows. However, there are several good X servers for the NeXT available ranging in price from free to several hundred dollars. With those compiling X windows programs is just about as much of a problem as on your average X based workstation. - support for generic UNIX development tools like gcc/awk/sed/perl, etc. etc. All of these either come with every NeXT, or can easily be compiled from the sources available on the net. I gather that UNIXWARE is the more standard UNIX-based architecture, but that many of these tools have not been ported yet. No, all NeXTs run BSD 4.3 which is the standard UNIX architecture. While SysV based systems have been approaching that standard with SysVr4 there are still large areas of incompatibility. What about NeXTSTEP? It's proprietary nature is both a plus and a minus, but if all of the above already exist and are stable there this might not be as big an issue. Not quite. It is only the window system on NeXTs which is proprietary. The underlying operating system is just about as standard as they come. Which of the environments presents a bigger porting challenge for a typical UNIX command-line or x-based application? UNIX command-line tools are as easy to compile on NeXTs as on just about any system on the market and more so than most. X based applications compile reasonably easily with the separately available X servers. Porting X based applications to run on NeXTs natively is a formidable task. Ultimately, if you buy a NeXT you are paying mainly for one of the most powerful, efficient and elegant windowing systems and application development environments available today. If you still need to run an occasional X application or display an X window from another machine, the available servers will do an admirable job for you. But if you intend to run only X programs and completely ignore the NeXTstep world, a NeXT is not the optimal machine for you. Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer From: mark@taylor.uucp (Mark A. Davis) Subject: Re: Deciding Between UNIXWARE And NeXTSTEP? Organization: Lake Taylor Hospital Computer Services Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1993 13:18:41 GMT Message-ID: <1993Aug23.131841.2625@taylor.uucp> References: <westesCC6ELA.77I@netcom.com> <1993Aug23.004334.26476@taylor.uucp> <Aug23.025415.31923@acs.ucalgary.ca> bstone@acs.ucalgary.ca (Blake Stone) writes: >> > I am interested in getting information from others about the >> > relative costs and merits of UNIXWARE versus NeXTSTEP as a >> > general-purpose UNIX machine. >> > >> > I gather that UNIXWARE is the more standard UNIX-based >> > architecture, but that many of these tools have not been >> > ported yet. What about NeXTSTEP? It's proprietary nature is >> > both a plus and a minus, but if all of the above already >> > exist and are stable there this might not be as big an issue. >NeXTSTEP provides a pretty standard BSD face, so getting most >UNIX tools up an running is pretty straightforward. Are there >any in particular you are looking for? Yeah, and BSD faces are dead- they have been merged into System 5.4.2. >> I would veer away from any OS which is non main-stream. >Then stick to DOS / Windows. Get real. "DOS" / "Windows" is not an OS. Mainstream Unixes are like SCO, Sun, Dec, 5.4.2. >> It seems NeXT is going out of their way to produce *YET >> ANOTHER* flavor of Unix and make it different and incompatible >> enough to be dysfunctional. >They are simply taking a standard UNIX flavour (BSD), putting it >on top of a decent kernel architecture (Mach) and extending it >where current technology doesn't provide an adequate solution for >a system designed to be used by end users (NetInfo). BSD is not longer a standard Unix flavor (boy can I see the flames coming). It has been folded into the now standard Unix flavor- 5.4.2. I am not saying it is better or worse, just not standard now. >> I have heard NextStep is great looking and technically >> competitive, but in a world where Unix vendors should be and >> are trying to come together, NT seems to be following the old >> mentality. I predict their failure unless they pull closer to >> other Unixes and fast! >NT? I assume you mean NeXTSTEP. Yeowch- Yep, I meant NextStep, sorry. (Calling NextStep "NT" is certainly one of the top insults- it was done purely by mistake). >The "coming together" of other vendors is a dream that will never >come true. Sure I agree that there should be commonality at some >level, but ALL vendors will try to differentiate themselves with >additional functionality. Otherwise, why buy one vendor's >product over another? The indistinguishable "common UNIX" will >never happen. I am not suggesting that there will be ONE and only ONE version of Unix; but that the versions will be closer together. IE: no BSD only, no non-X displays, etc... I also am looking for binary compatibility on the same platform over different vendor's versions. The difference in the products can/will be the documentation, drivers, certain non-critial parts of the OS, support, tweaking, included value-added, included applications, package arrangements, pricing, etc, etc, etc... >NeXT has given every indication of adopting standards that prove >to be important to their users, not every standard that comes >along. Hence, their commitment to POSIX, CORBA and DCE. If COSE >actually produces something coherent which the market likes, I >would suspect NeXTSTEP would migrate to support it. Quite possible. >> Does it support COFF? No. Does it support ELF? I don't think >> so. >I don't know on either front, so I won't address it. Neither has >been an issue for me. Then you don't need to run commercial software. >> Who is going to port software to it (especially commercial >> software) ... >WordPerfect? Oracle? Sybase? Insignia? Altsys? Not anytime soon. >> ... when there are many other ESTABLISHED OS's to be considered >> first-SCO, Sun, V.4.2, DEC, etc... Applications make or break >> the OS. >I agree, so application vendors will port applications to an >environment that appeals to their user base. Many of the >environments you refer to appeal to a technical and scientific >user base, but don't carry so well in a standard business >environment. Why does Sun lose so many financial, government and >commercial hardware deals to NeXT? Because NeXT provides an >ideal end-user environment (I should know, I was part of TWO such >major competitions). But that is a fundimental problem I have with the scheme. Nobody can buy into a platform which will sterotypically fit them into some market segment. This has always caused me difficulties in getting all the software we need. >> And if you are not application driven, then why not consider >> Linux? >And you said earlier "I would veer away from any OS which is non >main-stream" and "Applications make or break the OS". The >original poster asked about NeXTSTEP and UnixWare. Linux is mainstream. Just not commercially mainstream. It is completely standard- from using the X interface to the 5.4.2'ish look and feel. It is built on all the common tools we all use such as gcc. >> > Which of the environments presents a bigger porting challenge >> > for a typical UNIX command-line or x-based application? >Any command-line or X application designed to compile on a BSD >system should have little or no trouble with a NeXTSTEP based >system. For X applications you will need a third-party X >terminal emulator and development libraries. >> Certainly X. Nextstep doesn't even use this standard Unix >> windowing system. >Check again, NeXTSTEP certainly CAN use the X environment, >side-by-side with native applications, it just isn't the standard >windowing system under NeXTSTEP. Hmm, OK. >> Did they improve on X? Not really. >Care to back that up? Yes, they improved on displaying and using graphics; not on improving the X window system. >> Did they even build on X? No. This just seems very strange. >Given their goals, it certainly does not. Even more so if you >consider the state X was in when they originally evaluated it >(what, 1986?). X STILL falls short in areas important to >NeXTSTEP's designers. I certainly don't deny that. Just pointing out that with the advent not of lots of X software, X terminals, and such, we are just starting to take advantage of the synergy of X. Kind of hard to throw it away now! Too bad the Display Postscript could not have been an extension of X rather than a replacement. Or at least at the price of Nextstep; it probably should have been included and "side-by-side" for comaptibility. -- /--------------------------------------------------------------------------\ | Mark A. Davis | Lake Taylor Hospital | Norfolk, VA (804)-461-5001x431 | | Sys.Administrator| Computer Services | mark@taylor.wyvern.com .uucp | \--------------------------------------------------------------------------/
Newsgroups: comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer From: mark@taylor.uucp (Mark A. Davis) Subject: Re: Deciding Between UNIXWARE And NeXTSTEP? Organization: Lake Taylor Hospital Computer Services Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1993 13:42:22 GMT Message-ID: <1993Aug23.134222.3748@taylor.uucp> References: <westesCC6ELA.77I@netcom.com> <1993Aug23.004334.26476@taylor.uucp> <CC7L5B.8Hz@unix.portal.com> duane@shell.portal.com (Duane Takamine) writes: >In article <1993Aug23.004334.26476@taylor.uucp> mark@taylor.uucp (Mark A. Davis) writes: >>westes@netcom.com (Will Estes) writes: >> > Actually, I think they simply feel that the Unix level is not as A very, very well written and thought out response. (See my corrections in other postings) (I don't agree with your assesment of Xterminals, but that's OK). Thanks for the insight. >----------------------------------------------------------------- > Duane Takamine duane@shell.portal.com > Island CD Creations Madd Hacker Productions > Home of the Sound Site CDROM - nearly 1400 mods on disc -- /--------------------------------------------------------------------------\ | Mark A. Davis | Lake Taylor Hospital | Norfolk, VA (804)-461-5001x431 | | Sys.Administrator| Computer Services | mark@taylor.wyvern.com .uucp | \--------------------------------------------------------------------------/
Newsgroups: comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer From: bstone@acs.ucalgary.ca (Blake Stone) Subject: Re: Deciding Between UNIXWARE And NeXTSTEP? Message-ID: <Aug23.155109.55345@acs.ucalgary.ca> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1993 15:51:09 GMT References: <1993Aug23.004334.26476@taylor.uucp> <Aug23.025415.31923@acs.ucalgary.ca> <1993Aug23.131841.2625@taylor.uucp> Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta I've followed most of the thread elsewhere, but I really do need to address: > > > Who is going to port software to it (especially commercial > > > software) ... > > WordPerfect? Oracle? Sybase? Insignia? Altsys? > Not anytime soon. Errr... the reason I listed all of the above is that they have ALL ported products to NeXTSTEP/Intel. WordPerfect is shipping. Oracle and Sybase client libraries are bundled with the system. SoftPC has been shipping on black for ages and will be available on the Intel platform shortly (two months?), Altsys' Virtuoso is shipping on black now, with their 2.0 version coming to black and white ('486) Sept / Oct. Where are these products for Linux? (cough, gasp) -- Blake W. Stone | DKW Systems Corporation Chief Technical Officer | A N[EXTSTEP,eXT[STEP,step,Step]] VAR bstone@acs.ucalgary.ca | | ... couldn't have been ME
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Quick Guide to the comp.sys.next.* newsgroups Date: 23 Aug 1993 14:34:46 -0400 Organization: Next Announcements Message-ID: <25b2k4$sv5@digifix.digifix.com> The current menagerie: comp.sys.next.advocacy This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. comp.sys.next.announce Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. comp.sys.next.bugs A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well. comp.sys.next.hardware Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. comp.sys.next.marketplace NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. comp.sys.next.misc For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! comp.sys.next.programmer Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. comp.sys.next.software This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. comp.sys.next.sysadmin Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Written by: Eric P. Scott eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU Minor editing: Scott Anguish
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: petcher@howdy.wustl.edu (Donald N. Petcher) Subject: Merging mailboxes across directories using Mail Message-ID: <1993Aug23.214506.29539@wuphys.wustl.edu> Sender: usenet@wuphys.wustl.edu (USENET) Organization: Physics Dept, Washington U in St Louis Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1993 21:45:06 GMT Is there any way to get Mail to acknowledge mailboxes in two different directories (on two different disks) at the same time? I would like to merge mailboxes on my hard disk with those backed up previously on an optical disk, but I don't see any way to get mail to recognize mailboxes in more than one directory at a time. If this is not possible (should be! NeXT?), I wouldn't mind writing a shell script to accomplish the task but I am not sure how to do it. I tried appending one mbox to the other, and moving all auxiliary files (that go with NeXTMail) over, but something went wrong with this. Any clues? Cheers, Don Petcher
Newsgroups: comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer From: duane@shell.portal.com (Duane Takamine) Subject: Re: Deciding Between UNIXWARE And NeXTSTEP? Message-ID: <CC8xG5.6u6@unix.portal.com> Sender: news@unix.portal.com Organization: Portal Communications Company -- 408/973-9111 (voice) 408/973-8091 (data) References: <1993Aug23.004334.26476@taylor.uucp> <Aug23.025415.31923@acs.ucalgary.ca> <1993Aug23.131841.2625@taylor.uucp> Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1993 04:21:41 GMT In article <1993Aug23.131841.2625@taylor.uucp> mark@taylor.uucp (Mark A. Davis) writes: >>> I would veer away from any OS which is non main-stream. > >>Then stick to DOS / Windows. > >Get real. "DOS" / "Windows" is not an OS. Mainstream Unixes are like >SCO, Sun, Dec, 5.4.2. The point, though, is that you either buy software (including OS's) for functionality, or for popularity. If you want popularity, go DOS/Windows, which UNix will not in the near future eclipse. If you buy for functionality then NeXTstep becomes a possibility again, even if it is not "main stream." For its users, NS is mainstream enough to coexist with and use prevalent technology, plus it offers innovative technology besides. > >I am not suggesting that there will be ONE and only ONE version of Unix; but >that the versions will be closer together. IE: no BSD only, no non-X >displays, etc... I also am looking for binary compatibility on the same >platform over different vendor's versions. > >The difference in the products can/will be the documentation, drivers, >certain non-critial parts of the OS, support, tweaking, included value-added, >included applications, package arrangements, pricing, etc, etc, etc... This is potentially a hairy subject. No matter how much effort you put into making a base platform which is uniform, the value-add stuff can easily itself become enabling technology which, if you build apps which rely on it (because there is no way to do it any other way) then the portablility problem comes up again. >>I don't know on either front, so I won't address it. Neither has >>been an issue for me. > >Then you don't need to run commercial software. Whoa. I run commercial software on NeXT all the time. And COFF and ELF is no big deal to me as well. Oh, I run NeXT commercial software, the stuff everyone says doesn't exist, not COFF or ELF binaries, so maybe I don't count. > >>> Who is going to port software to it (especially commercial >>> software) ... > >>WordPerfect? Oracle? Sybase? Insignia? Altsys? > >Not anytime soon. Buzz. Actually, some time ago. The original poster was naming companies which have already ported software to the platform. > >>> ... when there are many other ESTABLISHED OS's to be considered >>> first-SCO, Sun, V.4.2, DEC, etc... Applications make or break >>> the OS. > >>I agree, so application vendors will port applications to an >>environment that appeals to their user base. Many of the >>environments you refer to appeal to a technical and scientific >>user base, but don't carry so well in a standard business >>environment. Why does Sun lose so many financial, government and >>commercial hardware deals to NeXT? Because NeXT provides an >>ideal end-user environment (I should know, I was part of TWO such >>major competitions). > >But that is a fundimental problem I have with the scheme. Nobody can buy >into a platform which will sterotypically fit them into some market segment. >This has always caused me difficulties in getting all the software we need. Unless, of course, you are already in one of NeXT's stereotypical market segments, in which case no problem. Keep in mind that NeXT did not pick those areas to attack, and make a platform which they thought would suit those markets. They tried to build a platform which appealed to as wide a market as possible, given the technology they wanted to provide, and those markets were those which responded the most strongly. It was only when NeXT saw that that they began to target those markets with more emphasis. > >>> Did they improve on X? Not really. > >>Care to back that up? > >Yes, they improved on displaying and using graphics; not on improving the >X window system. Then, strictly speaking, they DID improve on X. They just didn't improve X. For NeXT end users, improving graphics support would seem to be more important than improving X. If you want X so badly, just get one of the X packages for NS and run X. If you think X isn't good enough, you can spend a lot of time improving it, or use DPS on NS. Which is not to belittle efforts to improve X; it is a laudable effort, but I'm not convinced that it can be improved to the refined point NS is at the moment. > >>> Did they even build on X? No. This just seems very strange. > >>Given their goals, it certainly does not. Even more so if you >>consider the state X was in when they originally evaluated it >>(what, 1986?). X STILL falls short in areas important to >>NeXTSTEP's designers. > >I certainly don't deny that. Just pointing out that with the advent not of >lots of X software, X terminals, and such, we are just starting to take >advantage of the synergy of X. Kind of hard to throw it away now! Too >bad the Display Postscript could not have been an extension of X rather than >a replacement. Or at least at the price of Nextstep; it probably should >have been included and "side-by-side" for comaptibility. Again, NeXT didn't prevent or prohibit X from running on NS. They don't include it with the shipping package, but there are freebee versions of X out there, and there are commercial packages which do not cost a lot on the third party market. That is NeXT's strength. On NS, I can run NS side by side with X. On an X station, or other platform, you can run X, and that's it. As a buyer, that should factor in. Duane -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Duane Takamine duane@shell.portal.com Island CD Creations Madd Hacker Productions Home of the Sound Site CDROM - nearly 1400 mods on disc
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: kent@infoserv.com Subject: Re: test Message-ID: <CC4xq8.1rD@infoserv.com> Sender: kent@infoserv.com (kent L. Shephard) Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting References: <C6Mnx2.Cs@infoserv.com> Distribution: na Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1993 00:37:20 GMT Sorry for the test but it was only supposed to be local to my machine. Once again, sorry. My machine went down real bad and I had to do a complete reinstall. Luckily I didn't lose any data, backups and I could get the stuff off the HD. Anyway saorry for the bandwidth. Kent -- /* K.L. Shephard Consulting is my company. Infoserv only delivers my mail. */ /* Please direct mail to kent@infoserv.com other adresses may not work. */
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) Subject: Re: Merging mailboxes across directories using Mail In-Reply-To: petcher@howdy.wustl.edu's message of Mon, 23 Aug 1993 21:45:06 GMT To: petcher@howdy.wustl.edu (Donald N. Petcher) Message-ID: <CEDMAN.93Aug23215403@capitalist.princeton.edu> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University References: <1993Aug23.214506.29539@wuphys.wustl.edu> Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1993 01:54:03 GMT In article <1993Aug23.214506.29539@wuphys.wustl.edu> petcher@howdy.wustl.edu (Donald N. Petcher) writes: Is there any way to get Mail to acknowledge mailboxes in two different directories (on two different disks) at the same time? I would like to merge mailboxes on my hard disk with those backed up previously on an optical disk, but I don't see any way to get mail to recognize mailboxes in more than one directory at a time. Well, there is no direct way of doing this I'm afraid. Probably the easiest solution is to create symbolic links from the mailboxes on the OD to your real Mailboxes directory. If this is not possible (should be! NeXT?), I wouldn't mind writing a shell script to accomplish the task but I am not sure how to do it. I tried appending one mbox to the other, and moving all auxiliary files (that go with NeXTMail) over, but something went wrong with this. Any clues? Actually that should work. Why did it fail in your case ? Of course, this will wipe out your table_of_contents file, but that will be regenerated almost completely. If you don't want to do that, try this: mv Old-Mailbox/*.attach New-Mailbox formail +1 -ds appnmail New-Mailbox <Old-Mailbox/mbox That should even save the table_of_contents file. Formail is part of the procmail distribution. Appnmail is part of the mailapp-utilities distribution. Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: botma@cs.utwente.nl (Bart Botma) Subject: I WANT BLACK SOFTWARE !!! Message-ID: <1993Aug24.120513.12170@cs.utwente.nl> Sender: usenet@cs.utwente.nl Organization: University of Twente, Dept. of Computer Science Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1993 12:05:13 GMT Sorry about the rude subject line but the fact is that the white text fields of Edit/Terminal/... are ruining my eyes. I've asked it before and I will ask it again: How <peep> do I get white text on black backgrounds in these apps ????? (frustrated) Bart -- ___/T\_______ Bart Botma, botma@cs.utwente.nl, University of Twente ,--_ |___\I/ _ __| Department of Computer Science, Tele-Informatics & /)_( ) | | O / \ (_ | Open Systems Group, P.O.Box 217, NL-7500 AE, Enschede (___ / |_|__S_\_/___)| The Netherlands,phone:+31-53-893755,fax:+31-53-333815 =/ \)
From: shin@esug.co.jp (Sugou Shinichirou) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Has anyone else looked at Databag on cs.orst.edu Message-ID: <SHIN.93Aug24222110@sgtp.esug.co.jp> Date: 24 Aug 93 13:21:10 GMT References: <250m26$3lb@digifix.digifix.com> <jeffo.745794594@uiuc.edu> Sender: shin@sgtp.esug.co.jp Organization: SG Total Planning, Japan In-reply-to: jeffo@uiuc.edu's message of 20 Aug 93 06:09:54 JST I am the creator of DataBag. I've read two persons' news articles today. Following is my opinion toward their articles. >> I just downloaded the demo for Databag from cs.orst.edu.... >> >> For the life of me I can't figure out why anyone would pay anything >> for it >> let alone $100. >> >> Basically, what you have is a text editor that lets you drag documents >> into it. >> It saves them out in RTF format, (actually, sort of rtfd ish)... >> >> There doesn't seem to be any indexing or searching or anything special >> like >> that. >> >> You can do this with Edit.app now. Its free. Its debugged. Has lots >> of >> goodies. >> >> For that matter, you could whip this up in IB in very short order. >> The only >> hassle is that you need to implement the dragging of items out of the text >> object your self... (not difficult at all!) >> >> Have I missed something here? >> I got the exact same impression "Why would anyone need this, let alone >> pay *anything* for it?" when I read the announcement in >> c.s.n.announce. Perhaps I too just missed something while reading it >> and it actually can do something that can not be done with the >> supplied tools (namely, Edit, Digital Librarian and the File Viewer). >> It seems like it might make a good PD example app to show others how >> to program drag-and-drop, but that's about it. >> >> As far as I could determine, it seemed like another useless >> application to add to the NeXTSTEP software library. DataBag's main feature is its saving/searching function (searching is done with the help of Librarian.app). Saving/Searching ================= If you use Edit.app instead of DataBag, when you save a data (file), you have to determine two elements. That is, first, you have to determine the directory where to place the data, then you have to determine the file-name with which you save the data. This is somewhat painful procedure. What our, computer users, hope is to merely tell a computer (or tell an application) only one command, "Save". We, human being, should not worry about such insignificant elements. If you use DataBag instead, once you decide to save a data, what you have to do is only one thing, clicking Edit/Save menu. No SavePanel opens. You need not to determine the directory to save in. You need not to produce a file name. Please let me describe one more feature which is related to saving feature. Once you install DataBag, you can save Emacs buffer/region content. This feature is useful for the Emacs user (like me). Suppose you are going to save the region. The ordinary procedure to do is to type 'M-x write-region'. Then Emacs asks you a directory and a file-name. Yes, you have to determine them. But if you are using DataBag, what you have to do is to type 'M-x write-region-DataBag' or one or two key(s) if you have binded that command to it. You are not asked directory/file-name. The region data is transferred to DataBag and DataBag takes care of saving procedure. If you have saved a data with Edit.app, your data files are scattered. That is, some files may be saved under ~/personalInfo directory, for example, other files may be saved under ~/buisinessInfo, some news articles may be saved under ~/Mail/valuableNews,... and so on. Under such an environment, if you want to search some data file, what you have to do first is to recall the directory where the data file should have been saved. Once you recall it, you try to search (with Librarian, perhaps) and may fail if your remembrance is not correct. Trying to search with Librarian from your home-directory (~) may be a nice idea, but what you are searching may reside not under ~ but under /LocalLibrary. Always to begin searching from root (/) is not a practical way. If you have used DataBag for saving data, it is guaranteed that the file which you are looking for must be under the special folder, 'DataBag Private Area', 'DBPA' in short (DataBag on-line manual says that you should register DBPA to Librarian's bookshelf window if it is your first installation). Therefore, when you are going to search, you need not to recall the directory where it should have been placed. What you have to do is to launch Librarian, select DBPA folder, then enter key-word or something. It is guaranteed that searching must result in success. Overlooking should not happen. Also, as you know, Librarian.app has the indexing feature. If you create the indexing file for DBPA using this feature, searching speed becomes fast. Using Librarian as searching tool, it is possible to search by 'word', 'prefix', AND-searching, or regular expression. Mr.Scott Anguish says that DataBag has no indexing feature, no searching feature. Yes, what he says is right, it has no such features. But please notice that it has the filter function which forces Librarian.app to recognize DataBag's data files (it is not RTFD but DataBag peculiar format, which makes some useful features available. See below). As a result, you can use the powerful features of Librarian.app when you search. I intentionally designed DataBag as such. Next, I want to describe about DataBag's trivial features. Though they are trivial, they make life easier. These features are implemented because DataBag (more precisely speaking, DataBag's data window) is not a editor, but a, hmmm..., data container. 1. Does Edit.app have Lock/Unlock feature? This feature prevents your valuable data from your unintentional change. 2. Does Edit.app have the feature that you can switch tiff/eps representation between 'Graphic Image' and 'Icon Image'? 3. Does Edit.app have 'Insertion direction' feature? As on-line manual says, this feature is useful when you transfer the ordered tiff images sequentially. As far as my concern, I don't know any other NeXT application which has some feature like this. 4. Does Edit.app can paste many kinds of data like DataBag can? For example, though this example is derived from on-line manual, Edit.app cannot copy&paste Sound.app's wave form data. 5. Does Edit.app can pick up data (files) which you have not opened recently? You may say that it is possible with 'find' command plus '-atime', '-mtime' or '-ctime' option. If you had opened (with Edit.app) and modified its content, you could be. But how about -------------------------------------------------------------------- "Opened because I needed to examine the data, then closed it without any modification". -------------------------------------------------------------------- DataBag can pick up such a data which has not been OPENED recently. These data are just what you should delete because they seem to have no valuable information in it. 6. DataBag has 'Icon Inspector' feature. It is important. Please read on-line manual about it. One concrete example why it is important is that: suppose you copied some data to DataBag and deleted the original one because overlapped data is not needed. What is important is not that you can access the data itself anytime, but that you can get the full-path of the original data from 'Icon Inspector' panel. That is, even if you have collected all of your valuable data to DataBag by copying&deleting, you can re-construct your file system environment as what it was because you can get data itself and its original path. There are a few more features which I don't mention, but I'm tired now because I'm not so good at English. Please suppose that you write some long article in Japanese using English->Japanese dictionary. If you want to know more, please read on-line manual. Of course, there are many nice features which Edit.app has but DataBag doesn't have. Object link is one example. But fundamentally, Edit.app and DataBag are different applications from each other. The former is a editor while the latter is 'data archiver'. Comparing them is the wrong way, I think. My hope is that please try DataBag for about 1 or 2 days (or save your data until the demo version says that maximum limit, 50 data, has come). And it is my hope too that please read on-line manual from the beginning to the end. If you feel that DataBag is useless, no valuable, garbage-like application after you have tried it, I say nothing. But if you don't do it yet, please do it. Finally, I didn't imagine such severe criticisms. The intention why I delivered DataBag is not to earn money but to provide a good application with reasonable price (yes, reasonable price) to the people who loves NeXT. My hope was that adding a good application (like NoteBook) to NeXTSTEP so that (wonderful) NeXTSTEP overcomes the (stupid) MicroSoft OS. My main job is not a computer programmer but a gynecologist. I resigned my job ago to create a NeXTSTEP application which really helps you because I love NeXT. But reading their articles, I have decided to abandon to deliver DataBag. I apologize you, the people who loves NeXT, for disturbing. -- Shin'ichirou Sugou (NeXTmail acceptable)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: gross@stimpy.ame.nd.edu (George B. Ross) Subject: Re: I WANT BLACK SOFTWARE !!! Message-ID: <1993Aug24.145838.10598@news.nd.edu> Sender: news@news.nd.edu (USENET News System) Organization: University of Notre Dame References: <1993Aug24.120513.12170@cs.utwente.nl> Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1993 14:58:38 GMT In article <1993Aug24.120513.12170@cs.utwente.nl> botma@cs.utwente.nl (Bart Botma) writes: > Sorry about the rude subject line but the fact is that > the white text fields of Edit/Terminal/... are ruining > my eyes. I've asked it before and I will ask it again: > > How <peep> do I get white text on black backgrounds > in these apps ????? > Stuart is a shareware VT100 terminal emulator that does some things Terminal can't, and it allows reverse video in either gray or black. Stuart can be found on most of the archive sites, cs.orst.edu, nova.cc.purdue.edu, and others. As for Edit...? -george +------- Stop it, you're talking crazy--Stimpson J. Cat -------+ | George B. Ross University of Notre Dame | | gross@stimpy.ame.nd.edu Aerospace and Mechanical Engineering | +--------------------- NeXT mail welcome ----------------------+
Newsgroups: comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer From: lorinr@altsys.com (Lorin Rivers III) Subject: Re: Deciding Between UNIXWARE And NeXTSTEP? Message-ID: <1993Aug24.150832.7885@altsys.com> Organization: Altsys Corporation, Richardson, TX References: <1993Aug23.004334.26476@taylor.uucp> <Aug23.025415.31923@acs.ucalgary.ca> <1993Aug23.131841.2625@taylor.uucp> Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1993 15:08:32 GMT In article <1993Aug23.131841.2625@taylor.uucp> mark@taylor.uucp (Mark A. Davis) writes: >bstone@acs.ucalgary.ca (Blake Stone) writes: > >>> > [read the thread] >>> > >Then you don't need to run commercial software. > >>> Who is going to port software to it (especially commercial >>> software) ... > >>WordPerfect? Oracle? Sybase? Insignia? Altsys? > >Not anytime soon. > Ahem. Two words: Altsys Virtuoso Thanks! -- Lorin Rivers Lorin_Rivers@altsys.com NEXTSTEP Sales Manager 214.680.2518 269 W. Renner Parkway NeXT Mail Expected Richardson, Texas 75080 I said it, not my boss
Newsgroups: comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer From: larry@gator.oau.org (Larry D Snyder) Subject: Re: Deciding Between UNIXWARE And NeXTSTEP? Message-ID: <CC9wMq.EnJ@gator.oau.org> Organization: Gator Communications, Orlando, Florida References: <westesCC6ELA.77I@netcom.com> <1993Aug23.004334.26476@taylor.uucp> <Aug23.025415.31923@acs.ucalgary.ca> <1993Aug23.131841.2625@taylor.uucp> Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1993 17:01:38 GMT mark@taylor.uucp (Mark A. Davis) writes: Linux can not be classified mainstream until we can call our local Unix vendor and order applications that execute under Linux. -- Larry Snyder Internet: larry@gator.oau.org Orlando, Florida UUCP: ..!uunet!tarpit!gator!larry
Newsgroups: comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer From: larry@gator.oau.org (Larry D Snyder) Subject: Re: Deciding Between UNIXWARE And NeXTSTEP? Message-ID: <CC9wnA.EoJ@gator.oau.org> Organization: Gator Communications, Orlando, Florida References: <1993Aug23.004334.26476@taylor.uucp> <Aug23.025415.31923@acs.ucalgary.ca> <1993Aug23.131841.2625@taylor.uucp> <Aug23.155109.55345@acs.ucalgary.ca> Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1993 17:01:58 GMT bstone@acs.ucalgary.ca (Blake Stone) writes: >Where are these products for Linux? (cough, gasp) They won't be there. Why should Word Perfect develop an application for an operating system that is free? -- Larry Snyder Internet: larry@gator.oau.org Orlando, Florida UUCP: ..!uunet!tarpit!gator!larry
From: npratt@glacier.sim.es.com (Nevin Pratt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: SYBASE Woes (was Re: Sybase database av Date: 24 Aug 1993 16:28:56 GMT Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <25dfk8$g98@cnn.sim.es.com> References: <9308161029.AA02744@sirius.WHU-Koblenz.de> I seem to remember that whoever started this thread indicated a problem with using the old Sybase server (4.0.1) with the Sybase client software that shipped with NS 3.1 (because it is version 4.8). I can't find the old posts, but now I'm faced with using the old Sybase against the new client. What exactly was the problem? What was the resolution? Did you grab the client stuff off of 3.0 to solve it? Thanks, Nevin
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: petcher@howdy.wustl.edu (Donald N. Petcher) Subject: Re: Merging mailboxes across directories using Mail Message-ID: <1993Aug24.162423.6426@wuphys.wustl.edu> Sender: usenet@wuphys.wustl.edu (USENET) Organization: Physics Dept, Washington U in St Louis References: <1993Aug23.214506.29539@wuphys.wustl.edu> <CEDMAN.93Aug23215403@capitalist.princeton.edu> Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1993 16:24:23 GMT In article <CEDMAN.93Aug23215403@capitalist.princeton.edu> cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes: >In article <1993Aug23.214506.29539@wuphys.wustl.edu> petcher@howdy.wustl.edu (Donald N. Petcher) writes: > Is there any way to get Mail to acknowledge mailboxes in two different > directories (on two different disks) at the same time? I would like to merge > mailboxes on my hard disk with those backed up previously on an optical > disk, but I don't see any way to get mail to recognize mailboxes in more > than one directory at a time. > >Well, there is no direct way of doing this I'm afraid. Probably the >easiest solution is to create symbolic links from the mailboxes on the >OD to your real Mailboxes directory. > > If this is not possible (should be! NeXT?), I wouldn't mind writing a shell > script to accomplish the task but I am not sure how to do it. I tried > appending one mbox to the other, and moving all auxiliary files (that go > with NeXTMail) over, but something went wrong with this. Any clues? > >Actually that should work. Why did it fail in your case ? Of course, >this will wipe out your table_of_contents file, but that will be >regenerated almost completely. If you don't want to do that, try Thanks Carl. I am not sure why it failed, and may repeat the experiement, but not immediately. But for now I will tuck away your second suggestion for when I need to write a shell script: >this: > > mv Old-Mailbox/*.attach New-Mailbox > formail +1 -ds appnmail New-Mailbox <Old-Mailbox/mbox > >That should even save the table_of_contents file. Formail is part of >the procmail distribution. Appnmail is part of the mailapp-utilities >distribution. > > Carl Edman > Alternatively, Robert Thil pointed out that double clicking on a mailbox causes it to be opened by mail no matter where it is. I didn't think of this (not being a former Macintosh user :-), but it works like a charm for my immediate needs. I should have known that there was some reason for forcing us to use that .mbox extension. I really should read that manual sometime..... Cheers, Don Petcher
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: petcher@howdy.wustl.edu (Donald N. Petcher) Subject: Re: Merging mailboxes across directories using Mail Message-ID: <1993Aug24.163236.6517@wuphys.wustl.edu> Sender: usenet@wuphys.wustl.edu (USENET) Organization: Physics Dept, Washington U in St Louis References: <1993Aug23.214506.29539@wuphys.wustl.edu> <CEDMAN.93Aug23215403@capitalist.princeton.edu> Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1993 16:32:36 GMT P.S. Thanks to those of you who replied by email and suggested creating soft links. That is the other solution that was suggested. --Don
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Allegro Common Lisp 3.1.20 and NextStep 3.1 Message-ID: <1993Aug24.115647.9496@msuvx2> From: slusse@next1.msci.memst.edu (Ellen L Sluss) Date: 24 Aug 93 11:56:47 -0600 References: <9308161029.AA02744@sirius.WHU-Koblenz.de> <25dfk8$g98@cnn.sim.es.com> Distribution: world Organization: Memphis State University, Memphis TN Please forgive me if this problem has already been hashed over in this group. I am not much of news reader. I just upgraded my Next machine from 2.1 to 3.1. I then found out my Franz Allegro Common Lisp 3.1.20 stopped working. I called Franz, Inc. and the customer support person said that Franz had stopped supporting 3.1.20 on the Next and that I would need to go to 4.whatever. She also mentioned that some people on the net were able to get ACL 3.1.20 working under Next 3.1 but she didn't know who they were or how they did it. If anyone has any information on this could you please let me know. -- Ellen Sluss e-sluss@memst.edu Dept of Math Sciences, Memphis State University, Memphis, TN 38152
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) Newsgroups: comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Re: Deciding Between UNIXWARE And NeXTSTEP? Followup-To: comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Date: 24 Aug 1993 17:12:24 GMT Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office Message-ID: <25di5o$44m@news.mic.ucla.edu> References: <1993Aug23.004334.26476@taylor.uucp> <Aug23.025415.31923@acs.ucalgary.ca> <1993Aug23.131841.2625@taylor.uucp> <Aug23.155109.55345@acs.ucalgary.ca> <CC9wnA.EoJ@gator.oau.org> Let me add 3 brief points: [1] UnixWare's ads claim they have a free 1-800 number for support. NeXT has a $200/call policy for individuals (or a few thousand dollars per institution)--- Unix for the rest of us? No way --- [2] NeXT has a pretty good standard Unix "bundled," but I must agree that they seem a bit impervious to fixing problems/nuisances with it. I understand this attitude may be changing. (For example, the upcoming inclusion of libg++ is a major step forward.) [3] I doubt that you will find a more elegant operating system/work environment than NeXT's anywhere. It is a pleasure to work with and develop for (as long as you do not require [1]). Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu Asst Prof of Finance iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu AGSM at UCLA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mshaler@tdocad.sps.mot.com (Michael Shaler) Subject: Re: I WANT BLACK SOFTWARE !!! References: <1993Aug24.120513.12170@cs.utwente.nl> Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1993 15:12:42 GMT Organization: Nippon Motorola Ltd., Tokyo, Japan Sender: news@tkymail.sps.mot.com Message-ID: <1993Aug24.151242.23379@tkymail.sps.mot.com> Bart Botma writes Sorry about the rude subject line but the fact is that the white text fields of Edit/Terminal/... are ruining my eyes. I've asked it before and I will ask it again: How <peep> do I get white text on black backgrounds in these apps ????? Stuart and Emacs, unless you want to subclass the Text Object and/or operating system... %^) Alternatively, build your own terminal using the Subprocess[hm] class and follow the directions given in /NextLibrary/Documentation/NextDev/DevTools/17_TextApp/TextApp.rtfd. IB allows this and much much more... --- Michael Shaler Tokyo Design Center Nippon Motorola Ltd. +813 3280 8245 voice +813 3440 0033 fax mshaler@tdocad.sps.mot.com [NeXTmail],
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: lloyd@world.std.com (Chris Lloyd) Subject: Re: I WANT BLACK SOFTWARE !!! Message-ID: <CCA073.M4w@world.std.com> Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA References: <1993Aug24.120513.12170@cs.utwente.nl> <1993Aug24.151242.23379@tkymail.sps.mot.com> Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1993 18:18:38 GMT In article <1993Aug24.151242.23379@tkymail.sps.mot.com> mshaler@tdocad.sps.mot.com (Michael Shaler) writes: >Bart Botma writes > Sorry about the rude subject line but the fact is that > the white text fields of Edit/Terminal/... are ruining > my eyes. I've asked it before and I will ask it again: > > How <peep> do I get white text on black backgrounds > in these apps ????? > >Stuart and Emacs, unless you want to subclass the Text >Object and/or operating system... %^) My company has a terminal/comm. application `Cables' in Pre-Release which allows you to set the colors for fore/back,cursor, attributes, selection, etc. Send email to yrrid@world.std.com for more info. -- :: Christopher Lloyd :: Yrrid Incorporated :: lloyd@world.std.com :: :: NEXTSTEP Special Forces ::
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mshaler@tdocad.sps.mot.com (Michael Shaler) Subject: Re: Has anyone else looked at Databag on cs.orst.edu References: <SHIN.93Aug24222110@sgtp.esug.co.jp> Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1993 16:53:28 GMT Organization: Nippon Motorola Ltd., Tokyo, Japan Sender: news@tkymail.sps.mot.com Message-ID: <1993Aug24.165328.23891@tkymail.sps.mot.com> Sugou Shinichirou writes I am the creator of DataBag. I've read two persons' news articles today. Following is my opinion toward their articles. [info deleted] My main job is not a computer programmer but a gynecologist. I resigned my job ago to create a NeXTSTEP application which really helps you because I love NeXT. But reading their articles, I have decided to abandon to deliver DataBag. I apologize you, the people who loves NeXT, for disturbing. c.s.n.* is not a community. It's a glass bowl filled with piranhas, some of whom have taken the job of MODERATER immoderately. In the 1960's, Norman O. Brown said, "Don't burn the flag, clean it." Constructive criticism still has a role to play, even in cyberspace. Apologies are in order here, even though it's probably too late. --- Michael Shaler Tokyo Design Center Nippon Motorola Ltd. +813 3280 8245 voice +813 3440 0033 fax mshaler@tdocad.sps.mot.com [NeXTmail] 0
Newsgroups: comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer From: mark@taylor.uucp (Mark A. Davis) Subject: Re: Deciding Between UNIXWARE And NeXTSTEP? Organization: Lake Taylor Hospital Computer Services Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1993 18:25:28 GMT Message-ID: <1993Aug24.182528.13192@taylor.uucp> References: <westesCC6ELA.77I@netcom.com> <1993Aug23.004334.26476@taylor.uucp> <Aug23.025415.31923@acs.ucalgary.ca> <1993Aug23.131841.2625@taylor.uucp> <CC9wMq.EnJ@gator.oau.org> larry@gator.oau.org (Larry D Snyder) writes: >mark@taylor.uucp (Mark A. Davis) writes: >Linux can not be classified mainstream until we can call our local >Unix vendor and order applications that execute under Linux. That depends on the way you define mainstream. I do call the design on which Linux is based "mainstream". However, it may not be mainstream itself. Besides, you can call some vendors and get software for OS-9, but I wouldn't consider THAT mainstream! I should have chosen another word, but nothing fit what I was looking for; perhaps "standard"? I give up. -- /--------------------------------------------------------------------------\ | Mark A. Davis | Lake Taylor Hospital | Norfolk, VA (804)-461-5001x431 | | Sys.Administrator| Computer Services | mark@taylor.wyvern.com .uucp | \--------------------------------------------------------------------------/
Newsgroups: comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer From: mark@taylor.uucp (Mark A. Davis) Subject: Re: Deciding Between UNIXWARE And NeXTSTEP? Organization: Lake Taylor Hospital Computer Services Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1993 18:26:41 GMT Message-ID: <1993Aug24.182641.13287@taylor.uucp> References: <1993Aug23.004334.26476@taylor.uucp> <Aug23.025415.31923@acs.ucalgary.ca> <1993Aug23.131841.2625@taylor.uucp> <Aug23.155109.55345@acs.ucalgary.ca> <CC9wnA.EoJ@gator.oau.org> larry@gator.oau.org (Larry D Snyder) writes: >bstone@acs.ucalgary.ca (Blake Stone) writes: >>Where are these products for Linux? (cough, gasp) >They won't be there. Why should Word Perfect develop an application >for an operating system that is free? That is a silly thing to say. COFF/ELF is under development for Linux. So it WABI. When they are complete, a vast array of software will be available. It can't get here fast enough for me, however.... -- /--------------------------------------------------------------------------\ | Mark A. Davis | Lake Taylor Hospital | Norfolk, VA (804)-461-5001x431 | | Sys.Administrator| Computer Services | mark@taylor.wyvern.com .uucp | \--------------------------------------------------------------------------/
From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Has anyone else looked at Databag on cs.orst.edu Date: 24 Aug 93 19:12:01 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <jeffo.746219521@uiuc.edu> References: <250m26$3lb@digifix.digifix.com> <jeffo.745794594@uiuc.edu> <SHIN.93Aug24222110@sgtp.esug.co.jp> After re-reading the description of the application and trying it as a demo, I've written to the author why I feel the way I do about DataBag. Sugou Shinichirou writes: >Finally, I didn't imagine such severe criticisms. I think your intention was quite noble and worthy of praise. I also realize that I could have said what I said before in a nicer way. In an attempt to make the author feel better about the application, I've sent e-mail constructively describing why I feel the way I do. Praise or criticism is most often stronger when the reasons standing behind the conclusion, so I've done what I could to illustrate what leads me to my conclusion. -- J.B. Nicholson-Owens
From: mycroft@monolith.utexas.edu (Alex Currier) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Has anyone else looked at Databag Date: 24 Aug 1993 19:25:12 GMT Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas Message-ID: <25dpuo$9ag@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> References: <1993Aug24.165328.23891@tkymail.sps.mot.com> In article <1993Aug24.165328.23891@tkymail.sps.mot.com> mshaler@tdocad.sps.mot.com (Michael Shaler) writes: > Sugou Shinichirou writes > > My main job is not a computer programmer but a gynecologist. I > resigned my job ago to create a NeXTSTEP application which really > helps you because I love NeXT. But reading their articles, I have > decided to abandon to deliver DataBag. I apologize you, the people > who loves NeXT, for disturbing. > > c.s.n.* is not a community. It's a glass bowl filled with > piranhas, some of whom have taken the job of MODERATER > immoderately. > > In the 1960's, Norman O. Brown said, "Don't burn the flag, > clean it." Constructive criticism still has a role to play, > even in cyberspace. > > Apologies are in order here, even though it's probably too late. I think maybe Mr. Shinichirou took the criticism of his work a bit too personally? I like to think that if I created what I felt was an innovative and useful product and got thrashed for it I would re-evaluate my product and attempt to address some of the criticism or point out where that criticism was wrong. Sugou, stick up for your product or at least listen to what people say (however they choose to say it) and consider their points when revising your application. Whether criticism is constructive or destructive all depends on how you take it. -- ==================================== Alex Currier mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu Multiple Architecture NeXTSTEP User NeXTmail preferred! ====================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: lloyd@world.std.com (Chris Lloyd) Subject: Re: Has anyone else looked at Databag on cs.orst.edu Message-ID: <CCA6Jx.v9@world.std.com> Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA References: <SHIN.93Aug24222110@sgtp.esug.co.jp> <1993Aug24.165328.23891@tkymail.sps.mot.com> Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1993 20:35:55 GMT In article <1993Aug24.165328.23891@tkymail.sps.mot.com> mshaler@tdocad.sps.mot.com (Michael Shaler) writes: >Sugou Shinichirou writes > > I am the creator of DataBag. I've read two persons' news > articles today. Following is my opinion toward their articles. >[...] > My main job is not a computer programmer but a gynecologist. I > resigned my job ago to create a NeXTSTEP application which really > helps you because I love NeXT. But reading their articles, I have > decided to abandon to deliver DataBag. I apologize you, the people > who loves NeXT, for disturbing. > >c.s.n.* is not a community. It's a glass bowl filled with >piranhas some of whom have taken the job of MODERATER immoderately. > >In the 1960's, Norman O. Brown said, "Don't burn the flag, >clean it." Constructive criticism still has a role to play, >even in cyberspace. > >Apologies are in order here, even though it's probably too late. Well, it's always hard to take abuse and criticism, but I have to wonder - if this person is getting upset over a couple random posts on the net, how are they going to deal with supporting the product. You can't sell something for a considerable amount of money and expect to be a spineless dweeb and give up the first time someone criticizes you, voices problems or says they want their money back. Life sucks, then you adapt, -- :: Christopher Lloyd :: Yrrid Incorporated :: lloyd@world.std.com :: :: NEXTSTEP Special Forces ::
From: adams@bright.uoregon.edu (Jeff Adams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Adobe's Sonata font & Nutation Date: 24 Aug 1993 20:47:50 GMT Organization: Dept. of Mathematics, University of Oregon, Eugene OR 97403-1222 Message-ID: <25dupm$ih4@pith.uoregon.edu> References: <SHIN.93Aug24222110@sgtp.esug.co.jp> <1993Aug24.165328.23891@tkymail.sps.mot.com> <CCA6Jx.v9@world.std.com> I was excited to hear about Nutation earlier this year, since I really want to do some notation things with my NeXT. I dutifully ordered the Sonata font from our college bookstore and bought an upgrade to 2.0. Now, three months after I ordered it, the bookstore says it can't get the Sonata font from the suppliers, and that (get this:) >> Adobe has stopped making fonts of any sort for the NeXT ! << Can it be? I thought Adobe and NeXT were like Peanut Butter & Jelly! If this is not true, can someone tell me how I could buy the font. If it *is* true, can someone tell me how I can get Sonata to work, or if anyone is willing to let me copy or buy their Sonata font. (Normally, I frown on piracy, but if they're not going to let me buy it, I really don't care.) Jeff Adams -- __________________________________________________________________________ Jeff Adams, Grad Student adams@euclid.uoregon.edu Department of Mathematics University of Oregon (Eugene)
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Databag and moderating comp.sys.next.announce Date: 24 Aug 1993 16:52:39 -0400 Organization: Digital Fix Development Distribution: world Message-ID: <25dv2n$5op@digifix.digifix.com> References: <1993Aug24.165328.23891@tkymail.sps.mot.com> Michael Shaler writes > Sugou Shinichirou writes > > I am the creator of DataBag. I've read two persons' news > articles today. Following is my opinion toward their articles. > > [info deleted] > > c.s.n.* is not a community. It's a glass bowl filled with > piranhas, some of whom have taken the job of MODERATER > immoderately. > I asked a question, hoping for clarification on what exactly I was missing. His message did clarify it. However, I still don't feel that there is significant difference between what DataBag does and what Edit.app does. Thats not a reason to stop marketing it, that is a reason to sit back and go, what do I need to do to make it better. I don't think the author of Databag should drop the product. It should be refined. As for my your comment that I as MODERATOR of comp.sys.next.announce should moderate my opinions in other areas... forget it. I'd drop moderating first rather than do that. My entire 'job' for comp.sys.next.announce is to make sure postings are appropriate for that group. I do that. According to the mail that I have recieved, some people feel I do it well. But I have to say that I am getting sick and tired of taking the grief that comes with the position. -- - Scott Anguish - sanguish@digifix.com (NextMail) next-announce@digifix.com (comp.sys.next.announce submissions)
From: tracy@athena.com (Tracy Kugelman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Databag and moderating comp.sys.next.announce Date: 24 Aug 1993 21:17:17 GMT Organization: Athena Design, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <25e0gt$pa6@hermes.athena.com> References: <25dv2n$5op@digifix.digifix.com> In article <25dv2n$5op@digifix.digifix.com> sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) writes: > Michael Shaler writes > > Sugou Shinichirou writes > > > > I am the creator of DataBag. I've read two persons' news > > articles today. Following is my opinion toward their articles. > > > > [info deleted] > > > > c.s.n.* is not a community. It's a glass bowl filled with > > piranhas, some of whom have taken the job of MODERATER > > immoderately. > > > > I asked a question, hoping for clarification on what exactly I was > missing. His message did clarify it. However, I still don't feel that > there is significant difference between what DataBag does and what Edit.app > does. Thats not a reason to stop marketing it, that is a reason to sit back > and go, what do I need to do to make it better. > > I don't think the author of Databag should drop the product. It > should be refined. > > As for my your comment that I as MODERATOR of comp.sys.next.announce > should moderate my opinions in other areas... forget it. I'd drop moderating > first rather than do that. > > My entire 'job' for comp.sys.next.announce is to make sure postings are > appropriate for that group. I do that. According to the mail that I have > recieved, some people feel I do it well. But I have to say that I am getting > sick and tired of taking the grief that comes with the position. > > -- > - Scott Anguish - > sanguish@digifix.com (NextMail) > next-announce@digifix.com (comp.sys.next.announce submissions) Scott has been doing a great job of moderating and it would be a loss to drive him out of the job. ----------------------------------------------------------- Tracy Kugelman, Director tel. 1.617.734.MESA (6372) Sales and Marketing Athena Design 17 St. Mary's Court Boston, MA 02146
From: mbehrens@cs.utexas.edu (Mikael Behrens) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: SBook info request Date: 24 Aug 1993 21:44:42 GMT Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas Distribution: usa Message-ID: <25e24a$cvc@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> Greetings, Could someone send me information about the program SBook, including its price and how to get it? An email contact would also be appreciated. Thanks, Mikael -- Mikael Behrens mbehrens@cs.utexas.edu (NeXTMail OK) Computer Science student University of Texas at Austin "Attack ships on fire, off the shoulder of Orion..."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bvrotney@ADS.COM (Bill Vrotney) Subject: Re: Allegro Common Lisp 3.1.20 and NextStep 3.1 In-Reply-To: slusse@next1.msci.memst.edu's message of 24 Aug 93 11:56:47 -0600 Message-ID: <1993Aug25.072714.28654@ads.com> Sender: usenet@ads.com (USENET News) Organization: Advanced Decision Systems, Mtn. View, CA (415) 960-7300 References: <9308161029.AA02744@sirius.WHU-Koblenz.de> <25dfk8$g98@cnn.sim.es.com> <1993Aug24.115647.9496@msuvx2> Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1993 07:27:14 GMT In article <1993Aug24.115647.9496@msuvx2> slusse@next1.msci.memst.edu (Ellen L Sluss) writes: > Please forgive me if this problem has already been hashed over in this group. > I am not much of news reader. > > I just upgraded my Next machine from 2.1 to 3.1. I then found out my Franz > Allegro Common Lisp 3.1.20 stopped working. I called Franz, Inc. and the > customer support person said that Franz had stopped supporting 3.1.20 on the > Next and that I would need to go to 4.whatever. > > She also mentioned that some people on the net were able to get ACL 3.1.20 > working under Next 3.1 but she didn't know who they were or how they did it. > > If anyone has any information on this could you please let me know. **** I didn't see Robert respond so here it is again (this is not in the FAQ, but it should be put there): ====================== Original Post ======================================== From freimer@cs.cornell.edu Tue Jul 20 22:16:55 1993 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer From: freimer@cs.cornell.edu (Robert Freimer) Subject: Using Allegro Common Lisp 3.1.20 under NeXTSTEP 3.1 Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853 Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1993 14:08:59 GMT When I upgraded my cube to 3.1, I discovered that ACL no longer worked. I tried rebuilding and received an error that _alloca was undefined. This is caused by the switch from GNU C 1.93 to 2.2.2. alloca() is no longer in the system library and now is an internal function to the C compiler. The fix is to rebuild with the non-shared versions of the 3.0 libraries. The following procedure for fixing a virgin Allegro Common Lisp is modified from a comp.sys.next.programmer article by Bill Vrotney. You should find all of the files mentioned here on your ACL distribution. I refer to the top level directory of this distribution as ACL/ and the build directory ACL/build. For upgrading from a system that worked with 3.0, follow steps 3, 4, and 6. Warning!!! (from Franz Inc.) This procedure results in creating a new ucl.o binary file. You may distribute this method but not the resulting ucl.o file. 1. Install the MusicKit_3.1.pkg available by anonymous ftp from ccrma-ftp.stanford.edu. The Music and DSP libraries are no longer supported by NeXT. This package includes the 3.1 version of libdsp. The other option is to drop -ldsp from the LIBRARIES statement in step 4 below. 2. First look at the byte size of the file ACL/build/ucl.o, if the size is 612364 bytes then skip to step 3. Otherwise look at the file ACL/dumplispPatch. This is a shell archive that will patch ucl.o with the "dump lisp" patch. More precisely cd ACL cp dumplispPatch build cd build /bin/sh dumplispPatch /bin/sh install_patch.sh Now ucl.o should be 612364 bytes long. Tthe original ucl.o will be saved in a file called ucl_orig.o. 3. Create symbolic links from the 3.0 non-shared libraries on CDROM. This saves space on your hard disk, since the libraries should not be needed, except when rebuilding ACL. Another option is to copy the libraries. ln -s /NeXTSTEP_3.0/lib/libsys_p.a /lib/libsys3.0_p.a ln -s /NeXTSTEP_3.0/usr/lib/libNeXT_p.a /usr/lib/libNeXT3.0_p.a 4. Edit the file ACL/build/config. You might want to save the orginal <config file. Replace the following lines LIBRARIES = -lNeXT_s -ldsp_s -lsys_s USYMS = -u libsys_s -u libNeXT_s -u libdsp_s with: LIBRARIES = -lNeXT3.0_p -ldsp -lsys3.0_p USYMS = 5. Edit the new binary file ACL/build/ucl.o in emacs and save the results. Go to ACL/build directory, run emacs and find-file ucl.o replace-string _rld _jld replace-string __bcopy _bcopy^@ save-buffer The ^@ above is the null character (000 byte) and can be entered in emacs using C-q C-<space> and will look in an emacs buffer as a single character ^@ and NOT two characters. 6. Finally reinstall ACL as usual. You do this by going to the ACL/build directory and /bin/sh config 7. The online version of the manual (cl-manual.tar.Z) is available by anonymous ftp from sonata.cc.purdue.edu, under /pub/next/docs. Also grab fi-gnu-clman.tar.Z, which contain the emacs lisp code to index the manual. -- -Robert -- Bill Vrotney BAH/Advanced Decision Systems
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bauer@galilei.lbm.mw.tu-muenchen.de (Sebastian Bauer) Subject: Re: Seeking Software Suggestions Message-ID: <1993Aug25.082417.24547@news.lrz-muenchen.de> Sender: news@news.lrz-muenchen.de (Mr. News) Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany) References: <MICHAEL.93Aug25030556@tar.wft.stack.urc.tue.nl> Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1993 08:24:17 GMT In article <MICHAEL.93Aug25030556@tar.wft.stack.urc.tue.nl> michael@tar.wft.stack.urc.tue.nl (Michael Brouwer) writes: > I used to use Date hapily until my harddisk filled up once due to an > overgrown swapfile. When I logged out Date created an empty > `Active.datebk' and moved this over `.Active.datebk' after a reboot, > the next time I logged in. Goodbye appointments. > > I would love to have the sources for Date to fix this stupid problem. > (Are you listening NeXT?) > > Michael And Date would be much more useful, if it had additional to the alert by popping up a window notification by sound (like Mail.app) - not every one is looking all the time at the screen of his computer during work. It's really a pity, that the NeXT engineers have forgotten this little feature in Date. Sebastian Bauer ------------------------------------------------------------------------ e-mail: <bauer@lbm.mw.tu-muenchen.de> (NeXTmail welcome) Institute B for Mechanics (Prof. F. Pfeiffer) Technical University, Munich, Germany -------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bauer@galilei.lbm.mw.tu-muenchen.de (Sebastian Bauer) Subject: Re: Where should METAFONTS plain.base be placed ? Message-ID: <1993Aug25.083942.24989@news.lrz-muenchen.de> Sender: news@news.lrz-muenchen.de (Mr. News) Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany) References: <CK.93Aug25084555@perkins.cs.tu-berlin.de> Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1993 08:39:42 GMT In article <CK.93Aug25084555@perkins.cs.tu-berlin.de> ck@cs.tu-berlin.de (Christian Kelling) writes: > please could anyone mail me where the plain.base file of METAFONT is > stored on his/her system and which links point to the location. plain.base has to go into /usr/lib/mf/bases and appearently there has to be a link to it from /usr/lib/mf/bases/mf.base: My installation script says about Metafont /usr/bin/inimf plain \\input next\; dump cp plain.base /usr/lib/mf/bases ln /usr/lib/mf/bases/plain.base /usr/lib/mf/bases/mf.base ln /usr/bin/virmf /usr/bin/mf (You have to clean up the current directory afterwards from the copy of plain.base and the .log-file). I hope, that helps. Sebastian Bauer ------------------------------------------------------------------------ e-mail: <bauer@lbm.mw.tu-muenchen.de> (NeXTmail welcome) Institute B for Mechanics (Prof. F. Pfeiffer) Technical University, Munich, Germany -------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mshaler@tdocad.sps.mot.com (Michael Shaler) Subject: Emacs3.0 goes south mighty fast... Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1993 08:21:01 GMT Organization: Nippon Motorola Ltd., Tokyo, Japan Sender: news@tkymail.sps.mot.com Message-ID: <1993Aug25.082101.28582@tkymail.sps.mot.com> I just compiled Emacs3.0 from sonata and launched--and crashed. The following console entries explain what happened: Aug 25 17:10:05 tdoplan Emacs[4956]: An uncaught exception was raised Aug 25 17:10:06 tdoplan Emacs[4956]: DPS client library error: PostScript program error, DPSContext 110258 Aug 25 17:10:06 tdoplan Emacs[4956]: %%[ Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: get ]%% Is this a problem with NS 3.0J, or with Emacs3.0, and if so, does anybody have the fix? Thanks in advance. I will summarize and follow up. --- Michael Shaler Tokyo Design Center Nippon Motorola Ltd. +813 3280 8245 voice +813 3440 0033 fax mshaler@tdocad.sps.mot.com [NeXTmail]client library error: PostScript program error, DPSContext 110258 Aug 25 17:10:06 tdoplan Emacs[4956]: %%[ Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: get ]%% Is this a problem with NS 3.0J, or with Emacs3.0, and if so, does anybody have the fix? Thanks in advance. I w
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: duane@shell.portal.com (Duane Takamine) Subject: Re: Deciding Between UNIXWARE And NeXTSTEP? Message-ID: <CCB9GD.42L@unix.portal.com> Sender: news@unix.portal.com Organization: Portal Communications Company -- 408/973-9111 (voice) 408/973-8091 (data) References: <1993Aug24.182528.13192@taylor.uucp> <25eb1r$gva@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1993 10:36:10 GMT In article <25eb1r$gva@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu writes: >In article <1993Aug24.182528.13192@taylor.uucp> mark@taylor.uucp (Mark A. >Davis) writes: > >> That depends on the way you define mainstream. I do call the design on >> which Linux is based "mainstream". However, it may not be mainstream >> itself. > >If you're going to define mainstream that way then we can say that NeXTSTEP is >mainstream because it is based on the BSD UNIX design which is based on the >blah blah and so forth. For that matter we could say dyed purple hair is >mainstream because it is based on "hair" which is definitely mainstream. It's >not fair arguing if you're going to redefine the words you use on every post. While I monitor Linux's progress, I'm not one of the developers. However, I think that calling Linux "mainstream Unix" (not just "mainstream" out of context) is fair, from the point of view that the kernel and shell layers of Linux are based on a wide consensus view of Unix; which is a reasonable definition of "mainstream." Whether or not this in and of itself is an advantage is another point entirely, however. Being mainstream does not grant Linux immortality (keep in mind it is neither the only nor the first attempt at a similar project, and is not definitely the last). It does not necessarily grant it "mainstream" business acceptance. For people who think a business person will look at NeXTstep and say "I'm not sure if this is mainstream enough" imagine that same business person discovering that Linux is primarily an amateur effort! I know that has no bearing on quality or performance, but he or she certainly won't know that. From the developer's point of view, a comparison between NS and Unix (say, Linux) is not so simple. Linux attempt to make as standard a version of Unix as possible, to making it easier for Unix developers and also to allow porting of a whole suite of Unix tools for developers and end users. From the point of a UNIX developer, this gives Linux the edge. NS offers a user and developer's environment which runs above a Unix kernel. To gain its benefits you have to run predominantly in that environment, and develop in that environment. From the point of view of a NeXT developer, this gives NeXT the edge. Without a good context, it is difficult to compare. I do know that I can get apps up and running faster under NS than generic Unix, no matter how much tools you pile on that Unix. For me, that usually overides other considerations, mainstream or not. Duane > > >-- >==================================== >Alex Currier >mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu >Multiple Architecture NeXTSTEP User >NeXTmail preferred! >==================================== -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Duane Takamine duane@shell.portal.com Island CD Creations Madd Hacker Productions Home of the Sound Site CDROM - nearly 1400 mods on disc
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: tlm@tantalus.scl.ameslab.gov (Tom Marchioro) Subject: Re: Seeking Software Suggestions Message-ID: <CCBFFJ.4Fn@news.iastate.edu> Sender: news@news.iastate.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA References: <MICHAEL.93Aug25030556@tar.wft.stack.urc.tue.nl> Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1993 12:45:16 GMT Michael Brouwer writes []>>>>> On Mon, 23 Aug 1993 02:31:15 GMT, tlm@tantalus.scl.ameslab.gov (Tom Marchioro) said: [] []Tom> Actually, I think that Date is just fine for most "personal" use. []Tom> Schedules quite nicely, and you can get notifications by E-mail (the only []Tom> sure way to get my attention :) If you want a more powerful for sale []Tom> application, check out Pencil Me In. [] []I used to use Date hapily until my harddisk filled up once due to an []overgrown swapfile. When I logged out Date created an empty `Active.datebk' []and moved this over `.Active.datebk' after a reboot, the next time I logged []in. Goodbye appointments. [] []I would love to have the sources for Date to fix this stupid problem. (Are []you listening NeXT?) I have, in fact, written to Bryan Yamamoto hoping to get the sources, both for a few minor changes (like not having Active.datbk in your home directory but instead hidden under ~/Library like it should be) and also so that we can recompile it fat. No response so far. Can anyone suggest another way to "get to the source"? TLM -- Dr. Thomas L. Marchioro II Two-wheeled theoretical physicist Center for Physical and Computational Mathematics 515-294-6629 Ames Laboratory 515-233-1216 (home) Ames, Iowa 50011 tlm@iastate.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: tlm@tantalus.scl.ameslab.gov (Tom Marchioro) Subject: Re: Where should METAFONTS plain.base be placed ? Message-ID: <CCBFMG.4Hu@news.iastate.edu> Sender: news@news.iastate.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA References: <CK.93Aug25084555@perkins.cs.tu-berlin.de> Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1993 12:49:28 GMT Christian Kelling writes []please could anyone mail me where the plain.base file of METAFONT is stored on []his/her system and which links point to the location. []When I need to generate I new font, METAFONT is called by TeXview and ends []with a error like "could not find plain.base" I searched for this file, but it []was nowhere on the disk. Finally I created a new one but now I dont no where []to place it. The manual says nothing ... [] Uhh...should just go in /usr/lib/mf/bases I think. No link needed, although you may need to re-run virmf to get things set up (I was once semi-fluent in Metafont, but since switching to all Postscript TeX fonts I've magically, and happily, forgotten almost all of it). Write me directly if the above proves insufficient and I'll got through the process myself to figure it out (although I'll be in Tokyo all of next week so there may be some turnaround time :) []Many thanks for the help. No problemo! Tom []-- []* Christian Kelling * email: ck@cs.tu-berlin.de * []* TU Berlin Sekr. FR2-2 * Phone: +49.30.314-73116 * []* Franklinstr. 28/29 * Fax: +49.30.314-21116 * []* 10587 Berlin GERMANY * * -- Dr. Thomas L. Marchioro II Two-wheeled theoretical physicist Center for Physical and Computational Mathematics 515-294-6629 Ames Laboratory 515-233-1216 (home) Ames, Iowa 50011 tlm@iastate.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: petitmermet@biocomp.mat.ethz.ch Subject: Looking for a NeXT-eps-to-Mac-pict-Converter Message-ID: <CCBGsA.943@bernina.ethz.ch> Sender: news@bernina.ethz.ch (USENET News System) Organization: BWB - ETH-Zuerich Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1993 13:14:33 GMT I am desperatly looking for a real *NeXT-eps-to-Mac-pict-Converter* !! For a publication I have to transfer my eps-files to a Mac, wether MS Word nor MacDraw Pro can read this eps-files. Why? Does anybody know a utility to convert NeXT-eps to Mac-eps? It's a pitty that PixelMagican generates only raster files!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: obrooks@worf.hssc.ksc.nasa.gov (Oscar Brooks) Subject: DMESG Problem Message-ID: <1993Aug25.131945.25869@dale.ksc.nasa.gov> Keywords: dmesg Sender: news@dale.ksc.nasa.gov Organization: NASA Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1993 13:19:45 GMT Everytime we try to run "dmesg" we get the following error: worf# dmesg Aug 25 09:03 Can't get kernel namelist worf# This being run on NeXTStation Color system (68030) running 3.1. Any hints ? Please!! O -- ------------------------------------------------ Oscar Brooks Mail Code: DL-DSD-24 Kennedy Space Center, Fla. 32899 Internet: obrooks@dale.ksc.nasa.gov
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: simsong@next.cambridge.ma.us (Simson L. Garfinkel) Subject: Re: SBook info request Message-ID: <1993Aug25.123302.7187@next.cambridge.ma.us> Sender: simsong@next.cambridge.ma.us Organization: Simson Garfinkel and Associates, Inc. References: <25e24a$cvc@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> Distribution: usa Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1993 12:33:02 GMT In article <25e24a$cvc@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> mbehrens@cs.utexas.edu (Mikael Behrens) writes: > Greetings, > > Could someone send me information about the program SBook, including its > price and how to get it? An email contact would also be appreciated. > Sarrus Software 565 Pilgrim Drive, Suite C Foster City, CA 94404 (415) 345-8950 sbook@sarrus.com -- ................................................................simson
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dagh@hsr.no (Dag Ove Hegreberg) Subject: Driver to HARDCARD 20/40 Message-ID: <1993Aug25.131318.19628@hsr.no> Keywords: Wanted Sender: news@hsr.no Organization: Rogaland University Centre Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1993 13:13:18 GMT Hello ! I have got a Harcard 20, and I need the driver to it to run it. I have to drives, so i need a driver called "PLUSDRV.SYS" to put in my config.sys to access the hardcard. Are there anyone out in the wild world who has this driver I would be mush happy if you could send it to me, or notice me that you have it. My adress is : dagh@hsr.no Thank you !
From: mek@guinan.psu.edu (Mark E. Kotanchek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Scrolling from the Keyboard Date: 25 Aug 1993 13:57:15 GMT Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing Message-ID: <25fr3r$5mo@genesis.ait.psu.edu> Howdy, As I sit here in the normal battle of wills with Mathematica, I am scrolling through the document to grab or inspect snippets of code or results. It is frustrating to have to take my hands from the keyboard, grab the mouse, move the view, go back to whence I came, etc. On my Mac I've defined universal QuicKeys to move up/down a line or up/down a page or to the extremes of the document; is a similar thing possible on the NeXT? If so, I've never managed to extract it from the manuals or on-line documentation. I sort of had the impression that such things could be done with Simon Says. Is that true and should I go and try to withstand the abuse for a requisition for yet another "toy"? Thanks much, Mark. -- Mark Kotanchek Guidance & Control Dept - 363 ASB Applied Research Lab/Penn State P.O. Box 30 State College, PA 16804
From: hibbitt@strings1.ph.qmw.ac.uk (John Hibbitt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Where should METAFONTS plain.base be placed ? Date: 25 Aug 1993 14:14:31 GMT Organization: Queen Mary & Westfield College, London, UK Message-ID: <25fs47$rjl@beta.qmw.ac.uk> References: <CCBFMG.4Hu@news.iastate.edu> In article <CCBFMG.4Hu@news.iastate.edu> tlm@tantalus.scl.ameslab.gov (Tom Marchioro) writes: > Christian Kelling writes > > []please could anyone mail me where the plain.base file of METAFONT is > stored on > []his/her system and which links point to the location. > []When I need to generate I new font, METAFONT is called by TeXview and > ends > []with a error like "could not find plain.base" I searched for this file, > but it > []was nowhere on the disk. Finally I created a new one but now I dont no > where > []to place it. The manual says nothing ... > [] > > Uhh...should just go in /usr/lib/mf/bases I think. No link needed, although > you may need to re-run virmf to get things set up (I was once semi-fluent > in Metafont, but since switching to all Postscript TeX fonts I've > magically, and happily, forgotten almost all of it). > > Write me directly if the above proves insufficient and I'll got through the > process myself to figure it out (although I'll be in Tokyo all of next week > so there may be some turnaround time :) I imagine this will work but the standard NeXTTeX installation puts 'mf' bases and inputs in '/NextLibrary/TeX/mf/bases' and '/NextLibrary/TeX/mf/inputs' respectively. The symbolic link '/usr/lib/mf' is then established to point to "/NextLibrary/TeX/mf'. John Hibbitt Dept of Physics Queen Mary & Westfield College (University of London) Mile End Road London E1 4NS United Kingdom Email: J.Hibbitt@qmw.ac.uk (including NeXTMail) Tel: +44 71-975-5055
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: antoine@arrakis.osd.ulaval.ca (Antoine Gautier) Subject: Help with WriteNow headers Message-ID: <CCBL1J.B7w@athena.ulaval.ca> Sender: news@athena.ulaval.ca Organization: CTI, Universite Laval Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1993 14:46:30 GMT Hello world, Well, I thought that WriteNow (2.0, v.37) was simple, but here is the problem: How does one remove headers/footers? I know that you can edit them and empty them, but this does not seem to actually remove them... (I also tried editing the file with edit.app, but it crashes WriteNow once the headers are removed). Help! -- +-------------------------------------------------------+ | Antoine Gautier | | Departement OSD, FSA | | Universite Laval, Quebec, PQ | +-------------------------------------------------------+ Disclaimer: I wish my employer had opinions... :+)
From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Seeking Software Suggestions Date: 25 Aug 1993 16:00:56 GMT Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742 Message-ID: <25g2bo$2rs@neomimsy.cs.umd.edu> References: <MICHAEL.93Aug25030556@tar.wft.stack.urc.tue.nl> <1993Aug25.082417.24547@news.lrz-muenchen.de> bauer@galilei.lbm.mw.tu-muenchen.de (Sebastian Bauer) writes: > And Date would be much more useful, if it had additional to the alert by > popping up a window notification by sound (like Mail.app) - not every one > is looking all the time at the screen of his computer during work. PencilMeIn does this and much more (keeping track of action items, and group scheduling) They also give 50% discounts to students. > Its really a pity, that the NeXT engineers have forgotten this little feature > in Date. its only a demo -- Alex Blakemore alex@cs.umd.edu NeXT mail accepted -------------------------------------------------------------- "Without an engaged and motivated human being at the keyboard, the computer is just another dumb box." William Raspberry
From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Scrolling from the Keyboard Date: 25 Aug 1993 16:08:42 GMT Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742 Message-ID: <25g2qa$2tc@neomimsy.cs.umd.edu> References: <25fr3r$5mo@genesis.ait.psu.edu> In article <25fr3r$5mo@genesis.ait.psu.edu> mek@guinan.psu.edu (Mark E. Kotanchek) writes: > As I sit here in the normal battle of wills with Mathematica, I am > scrolling through the document to grab or inspect snippets of code or > results. It is frustrating to have to take my hands from the keyboard, > grab the mouse, move the view, go back to whence I came, etc. this may not help with Mathematica, but if you spend any time in a Terminal window, try Stuart.app instead. you can use alt-arrow combinations to scroll up and down, page, goto top/bottom and switch between windows, even iconified ones. these features alone cut down drastically the number of times you have to reach for the mouse. this would even solve the Mathematic problem if you ran it from the shell instead of the notebook GUI. -- Alex Blakemore alex@cs.umd.edu NeXT mail accepted -------------------------------------------------------------- "Without an engaged and motivated human being at the keyboard, the computer is just another dumb box." William Raspberry
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: ctm@ardi.com Subject: Re: Looking for a NeXT-eps-to-Mac-pict-Converter Message-ID: <CCBME3.JtK@cobra.cs.unm.edu> Sender: news@cobra.cs.unm.edu Organization: ARDI References: <CCBGsA.943@bernina.ethz.ch> Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1993 15:15:41 GMT In article <CCBGsA.943@bernina.ethz.ch> petitmermet@biocomp.mat.ethz.ch writes: >I am desperatly looking for a real *NeXT-eps-to-Mac-pict-Converter* !! >For a publication I have to transfer my eps-files to a Mac, wether MS Word >nor MacDraw Pro can read this eps-files. Why? >Does anybody know a utility to convert NeXT-eps to Mac-eps? >It's a pitty that PixelMagican generates only raster files! In general all you have to do is change line-feeds (the end of line delimiter that UNIX uses) to carriage-returns (the end of line delimiter that the Mac uses). To do this from the command line you can use the "tr" command: faust% tr '\012' '\015' < next_file.eps > mac_file.eps \012 represents octal 12 which is control-j (line-feed) \015 represents octal 15 which is control-m (carraige-return) Executor running Word will automatically do the conversion as the file is read in if you have the "Newline Mapping" box checked in the Preferences... panel. NOTE: unless you go out of your way to merge in a "PICT resource" your EPS file will appear only as a labeled rectangle in your document but it should print properly. --Cliff ctm@ardi.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc From: hussain@artsci.wustl.edu (G. H. Chinoy) Subject: attaching a HP Scanner to a NeXT? Message-ID: <1993Aug25.174502.24607@wuecl.wustl.edu> Sender: usenet@wuecl.wustl.edu (News Administrator) Organization: Washington University, School of Engineering, St. Louis MO Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1993 17:45:02 GMT Does anyone know how to attach an HP Scanner to a NeXT? What scanning program would I need? I'm pretty much a novice with scanners. Thanks! - Hussain ________________________________ G. Hussain Chinoy Consultant, Arts & Sciences NeXT Lab Cupples I, Room 213 Washington University in St. Louis hussain@artsci.wustl.edu NeXT Mail Welcome
From: unsal@blackbox.cl.ee.vt.edu (Cem Unsal) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Q: olwm & xmosaic files? Date: 25 Aug 1993 17:12:43 GMT Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia Message-ID: <25g6ib$rj7@vtserf.cc.vt.edu> I'm looking for olwm and xmosaic for co-Xist/NS3.0. Any pointers? cem unsal -- unsal@blackbox.cl.ee.vt.edu (NeXTmail OK) "Adesso che ho perso la vista, ci vedo meglio di piu."
From: me@ienext.unl.edu (Dan Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Non-NeXT CD-ROM titles Date: 25 Aug 1993 18:16:44 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Message-ID: <25gaac$6m2@crcnis1.unl.edu> I am finally getting a CD-ROM player for my NeXTStation Color. My main motivation is because of upgrades, but I am also interested in purchasing some good CD-ROMs for general reference and entertainment. For example, I think I will get that Birds of Europe CD-ROM since it sounds cool. I also know there are some CD-ROMs that contain a lot of NeXT specific stuff and I expect to get some of these too. What I really wonder about is the large number of CD-ROMs that are produced for the IBMs and Macs. Are there any problems in using such disks? Are there any that you would particularly recommend? Thanks! ---------------------------------------------------------------- Dan Scott me@ienext.unl.edu NeXT mail welcome ----------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: gordie@cyclesoft.com (Gordie Freedman) Subject: Re: I WANT BLACK SOFTWARE !!! Message-ID: <1993Aug25.175519.8471@netcom.com> Sender: gordie@netcom.com Organization: Cyclesoft Media Works References: <1993Aug24.151242.23379@tkymail.sps.mot.com> Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1993 17:55:19 GMT In article <1993Aug24.151242.23379@tkymail.sps.mot.com> mshaler@tdocad.sps.mot.com (Michael Shaler) writes: > > Alternatively, build your own terminal using the > Subprocess[hm] class and follow the directions given in > /NextLibrary/Documentation/NextDev/DevTools/17_TextApp/TextApp.rtfd. > > IB allows this and much much more... > > --- I couldn't find any info on the Subprocess class in DL, but it sounds familiar... What am I missing? Thanks -- >>> Gordie Freedman -> gordie@cyclesoft.com NeXTMail Yes! >>> Thou shalt not inline functions more complicated than 20
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: gross@stimpy.ame.nd.edu (George B. Ross) Subject: Re: Non-NeXT CD-ROM titles Message-ID: <1993Aug25.182839.17436@news.nd.edu> Sender: news@news.nd.edu (USENET News System) Organization: University of Notre Dame References: <25gaac$6m2@crcnis1.unl.edu> Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1993 18:28:39 GMT In article <25gaac$6m2@crcnis1.unl.edu> me@ienext.unl.edu (Dan Scott) writes: > I am finally getting a CD-ROM player for my NeXTStation Color. > My main motivation is because of upgrades, but I am also > interested in purchasing some good CD-ROMs for general reference > and entertainment. For example, I think I will get that Birds of > Europe CD-ROM since it sounds cool. I also know there are some > CD-ROMs that contain a lot of NeXT specific stuff and I expect > to get some of these too. > > What I really wonder about is the large number of CD-ROMs that > are produced for the IBMs and Macs. Are there any problems in > using such disks? Are there any that you would particularly > recommend? > > Thanks! > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Dan Scott me@ienext.unl.edu NeXT mail welcome > ---------------------------------------------------------------- I am interested in the same info. I am finding it hard to justify the expense of a CD player to be used only for OS upgrades and playing music. -george +------- Stop it, you're talking crazy--Stimpson J. Cat -------+ | George B. Ross University of Notre Dame | | gross@stimpy.ame.nd.edu Aerospace and Mechanical Engineering | +--------------------- NeXT mail welcome ----------------------+
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: raptor!rlove (Robert B. Love ) Subject: GNU bc Message-ID: <1993Aug24.180026.3740@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> Sender: rlove@nugget.rmNUG.ORG Organization: Rocky Mountain NeXT Users' Group Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1993 18:00:26 GMT Has anyone built GNU bc for the NeXT? What is the secret? Or are the binaries available? Thanks for all assistance. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Love rlove@raptor.rmnug.org (NeXT Mail OK) BIX: rlove -----------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: obrooks@worf.hssc.ksc.nasa.gov (Oscar Brooks) Subject: Banner Page Problem Message-ID: <1993Aug25.185727.29216@dale.ksc.nasa.gov> Keywords: Banner , Printing Sender: news@dale.ksc.nasa.gov Organization: NASA Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1993 18:57:27 GMT How do you stop the Banner Page from printing when you request multiple copies of the same thing? For example, each copy has it own Banner Page associated with it. Trying to save some trees, HELP! O -- ------------------------------------------------ Oscar Brooks Mail Code: DL-DSD-24 Kennedy Space Center, Fla. 32899 Internet: obrooks@dale.ksc.nasa.gov
Newsgroups: comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer From: larry@gator.oau.org (Larry D Snyder) Subject: Re: Deciding Between UNIXWARE And NeXTSTEP? Message-ID: <CCC0vB.Buy@gator.oau.org> Organization: Gator Communications, Orlando, Florida References: <1993Aug23.004334.26476@taylor.uucp> <Aug23.025415.31923@acs.ucalgary.ca> <1993Aug23.131841.2625@taylor.uucp> <Aug23.155109.55345@acs.ucalgary.ca> <CC9wnA.EoJ@gator.oau.org> <1993Aug24.182641.13287@taylor.uucp> Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1993 20:28:22 GMT mark@taylor.uucp (Mark A. Davis) writes: >larry@gator.oau.org (Larry D Snyder) writes: >>bstone@acs.ucalgary.ca (Blake Stone) writes: >>>Where are these products for Linux? (cough, gasp) >>They won't be there. Why should Word Perfect develop an application >>for an operating system that is free? >That is a silly thing to say. COFF/ELF is under development for Linux. So it >WABI. When they are complete, a vast array of software will be available. But what are the chances that software vendors will support the Linux environment? I mean, if you call Progress and ask for support under Linux -- do you think they will support it? Chances are, Linux will not be a supported operating system even if Linux supports COFF/ELF. -- Larry Snyder Internet: larry@gator.oau.org Orlando, Florida UUCP: ..!uunet!tarpit!gator!larry
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: henry@trilithon.com (Henry McGilton) Subject: Re: Adobe's Sonata font & Nutation Message-ID: <1993Aug25.171626.21386@trilithon.com> Sender: henry@trilithon.com Organization: Trilithon Software References: <25dupm$ih4@pith.uoregon.edu> Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1993 17:16:26 GMT In article <25dupm$ih4@pith.uoregon.edu> adams@bright.uoregon.edu (Jeff Adams) writes: * Can it be? I thought Adobe and NeXT were like Peanut Butter * & Jelly! If this is not true, can someone tell me how I * could buy the font. If it *is* true, can someone tell me * how I can get Sonata to work, or if anyone is willing to * let me copy or buy their Sonata font. (Normally, I frown * on piracy, but if they're not going to let me buy it, I * really don't care.) Relax. RightBrain Software are the authorised distributors of Adobe fonts for NEXTSTEP. Call RightBrain at (415) 326-2974. Mail to info@rightbrain.com In the event that you can not obtain fonts in NEXTSTEP compatible format, we (Trilithon Software) offer Macintosh to NEXTSTEP or PC to NEXTSTEP font converters and installers. The packages convert the storage formats, sanity check the AFM files (and generate AFM's if needed) and install the fonts for you. E-mail to info@trilithon.com for details. ........ Henry
Newsgroups: comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer From: larry@gator.oau.org (Larry D Snyder) Subject: Re: Deciding Between UNIXWARE And NeXTSTEP? Message-ID: <CCC10I.C3F@gator.oau.org> Organization: Gator Communications, Orlando, Florida References: <1993Aug23.004334.26476@taylor.uucp> <Aug23.025415.31923@acs.ucalgary.ca> <1993Aug23.131841.2625@taylor.uucp> <Aug23.155109.55345@acs.ucalgary.ca> <CC9wnA.EoJ@gator.oau.org> <WAYNE.93Aug24200145@backbone.uucp> Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1993 20:31:29 GMT wayne@backbone.uucp (Wayne Schlitt) writes: > free/cheap that commercial companies won't support it. After all, > DOS is practically free as is OS/2 on IBM PS/2's, and Unix on most > workstations. Yes, but DOS is used slightly more than Linux, afterall, everyone has heard of DOS, but how many folks have heard of Linux? >2) The reason why Word Perfect _might_ develop an application for > Linux is because of it's install base, especially if it grows by > another order of magnitude, or two. Actually, WP is interested in the potential for making money for a specific environment -- -- Larry Snyder Internet: larry@gator.oau.org Orlando, Florida UUCP: ..!uunet!tarpit!gator!larry
From: jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Joseph W Reiss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Non-NeXT CD-ROM titles Date: 25 Aug 1993 20:59:33 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <25gjrl$ra2@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> References: <25gaac$6m2@crcnis1.unl.edu> <1993Aug25.182839.17436@news.nd.edu> In article <25gaac$6m2@crcnis1.unl.edu> me@ienext.unl.edu (Dan Scott) writes: > What I really wonder about is the large number of CD-ROMs that > are produced for the IBMs and Macs. Are there any problems in > using such disks? Are there any that you would particularly > recommend? What I'd be interested in finding is an encyclopedia that can be read using a CD ROM in the NeXT. I'm pretty sure such things are available on Macs and/or PCs. I'd love to have one for the NeXT. Then I could have a dictionary, thesaurus, quotation book, and the complete works of William Shakespeare on my hard drive, as well as the encyclopedia. My electronic reference set would be complete! Thanks! Joe -- __________ | NeXTMail accepted, but not preferred | |___) | """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" \_/OE | \EISS | Dammit, Jim. I'm a doctor, not a repository of witty `---- | remarks. Face it. Wit's dead, Jim.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: wegayl@enterprise (Wil Gayle) Subject: NeXT and HP Draftmaster Plotter Message-ID: <CCBvvH.AEt@nwpx12.mnet.uswest.com> Sender: usenet@nwpx12.mnet.uswest.com (usenet login) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1993 18:40:28 GMT Greetings. Does anyone have any experience plotting from a NeXT to a plotter - preferrably a HP DraftMaster Plotter? I'm looking for software to make this work. The ideal setup is to print via our corporate ethernet network instead of being directly connected to the plotter. Could anyone with experience share your setup with me. Thanks. Wil Gayle U S West Communications Minneapolis
From: shin@esug.co.jp (Sugou Shinichirou) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Databag and moderating comp.sys.next.announce Message-ID: <SHIN.93Aug26061701@sgtp.esug.co.jp> Date: 25 Aug 93 21:17:01 GMT References: <1993Aug24.165328.23891@tkymail.sps.mot.com> <25dv2n$5op@digifix.digifix.com> Sender: shin@sgtp.esug.co.jp Organization: SG Total Planning, Japan In-reply-to: sanguish@digifix.com's message of 25 Aug 93 05:52:39 JST In article <25dv2n$5op@digifix.digifix.com> sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) writes: >> I asked a question, hoping for clarification on what exactly I was >> missing. His message did clarify it. However, I still don't feel that >> there is significant difference between what DataBag does and what Edit.app >> does. Thats not a reason to stop marketing it, that is a reason to sit back >> and go, what do I need to do to make it better. I wrote "DataBag. What is it?" and posted it now to this news group. I tried to clarify the difference as much as I can. But if you have any more questions, please tell me straightforwardly (at your ease). >> As for my your comment that I as MODERATOR of comp.sys.next.announce >> should moderate my opinions in other areas... forget it. I'd drop moderating >> first rather than do that. >> >> My entire 'job' for comp.sys.next.announce is to make sure postings are >> appropriate for that group. I do that. According to the mail that I have >> recieved, some people feel I do it well. But I have to say that I am getting >> sick and tired of taking the grief that comes with the position. I don't mind that you are the moderator. On the contrary, you kindly pointed out that the price information was lacked when I was going to post to c.s.n.announce. Thanks. -- Shin'ichirou Sugou (NeXTmail acceptable)
From: shin@esug.co.jp (Sugou Shinichirou) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cancel <SHIN.93Aug26060225@sgtp.esug.co.jp> Message-ID: <SHIN.93Aug26063420@sgtp.esug.co.jp> Date: 25 Aug 93 21:34:20 GMT Control: cancel <SHIN.93Aug26060225@sgtp.esug.co.jp> Sender: shin@sgtp.esug.co.jp Distribution: comp Organization: SG Total Planning, Japan
From: shin@esug.co.jp (Sugou Shinichirou) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: DataBag. What is it? Message-ID: <SHIN.93Aug26064136@sgtp.esug.co.jp> Date: 25 Aug 93 21:41:36 GMT Sender: shin@sgtp.esug.co.jp Distribution: comp Organization: SG Total Planning, Japan Before I talk the main issue, I thank many people. I've gotten many e-mails, thank you. Many people posted articles to this news group, thank you. Especially I thank Mr.Scott Anguish and Mr.Nicholson-Owner. I have read Mr.Scott's second article subjected "Databag and moderating comp.sys.next.announce". I have gotten e-mail from Mr.Nicholson-Owner. In his e-mail, he described the reason in detail why he thinks so. I considered carefully the reason why the conflict had happened, and concluded that the responsibility mainly rests with me. That is, I could not explain well "What is DataBag?", "What is the difference from other NeXT application like Edit.app?". To explain it well is my duty. I'll try it. Concept ======= DataBag's concept has come from the following idea: Suppose you always carry a bag made from cloth. You drop in this bag any information which you think (to greater or lesser extend) valuable for you. I describe this life style(?) more in detail in the following sentence. Suppose you are having breakfast in the morning. You eat a bread reading the newspaper, "NewYork Times". You find the article saying "NeXT Inc. announces that NS/Sparc will be shipped soon...". You think it is valuable because you are interested in NeXT computer. Then, you cut that article out with a scissors and drop it in this bag. A few minutes later, you find the another valuable article on the newspaper. Again you cut it out and drop in. You repeat this action whenever you find any valuable article. You go to your company. You read the business document. You think that this document is important. Then you drop it in this bag. You repeat this action whenever you encounter the document which you think that it is important for you. This action is not restricted to READING. You hear a cassette tape. The music is favorite one. Then you drop that cassette tape in that bag. You admire (enjoy) a picture on which two girls are painted. You like the left girl. Then you cut her out and drop in this bag. You continue the above life style for a long time, and now the bag stores many many objects which should have (to a greater or lesser extent) valuable information for you. When you need any information about "NeXT" for example, you search this bag. You find some objects related to "NeXT", one of them is a cutting of newspaper, which says "NeXT Inc. announces that NS/Sparc...". Sometimes, you have to tidy up the content of this bag. You examine all of the objects kept in the bag and discard the object(s) which you think that it is garbage. Realization upon NeXT computer ============================== How does it become if I build up the above life style upon NeXT computer? It is DataBag. Suppose you read c.s.n.software articles with NewsGrazer. You read the article about NS/Intel. You find the sentence "NeXT announces that NS/Intel-3.1 supports XXX graphic board...". You think it is valuable. Then, you select and save this line. What you actually do is selecting it by mouse dragging and clicking Services/DataBag/NewData(background) menu. Clicking this menu, DataBag creates a new window in the background and the selected line is written to it. Because this movement is done in background, NewsGrazer is still active application. So, you can continue to read. A few minutes later, you find another valuable information, telephone number of NeXT Inc.. You think you should save it. What you have to do is the same. Select it and click the same menu. When you finish this procedure, you can continue to read. In the background, DataBag creates one more window and writes this information on it. If you think that telephone number should be written not to the newly created window but to the old "NS/Intel-3.1 supports..." window, you can select the different menu, Services/DataBag/ExistingData(background), and everything goes well. After you finish reading c.s.n. news, suppose you start your job work. You read a RTF-formatted business document with Edit.app, and you are convinced that you will use many data embedded in this document at the meeting held in November. Then, you select the whole content by command-a key (or clicking Edit/SelectAll menu), and click Services/DataBag/NewData(background) menu. Whole RTF-formatted content is copied to a newly created DataBag window. If you want to add some key-word like "Meeting at November" so as to find it easily by later Librarian.app searching, you select this DataBag window by mouse clicking, type "Meeting at November". Though the location where you type these words is not a important matter, as far as I am concerned, I always enter these key-word (or explanatory notes) at the beginning of a DataBag window. Next, you begin to write a RTF-formatted business paper. You start writing not with Edit.app but with DataBag (You'll understand the reason why you choose DataBag instead of Edit.app). You click DataBag's Data/New menu to open a new window, then start typing. 30 minutes later, you stop writing and decide to continue it tomorrow. What you have to do is to type something like "NotCompleted". That is all. You need not to determine the directory to place it in, or its file name(Please read more. You will do saving procedure when you stop your NeXT computer). Tomorrow, you can get this document by Librarian searching soon with the key-word "NotCompleted". What you can save to DataBag is not restricted to a text document. Anything on NeXTSTEP can be saved. For example, you open tiff file by double clicking. Suppose the picture image is displayed. The red flower is drawn at the center of the picture. You want to save this flower because you think you may paste it to another document in the future. You select the flower by mouse dragging and click Services/DataBag/NewData menu. Please notice that, this time, you select the little bit different menu which has no "(background)" appended. This menu makes DataBag active application. The reason why you select this menu is that you are going to enter some key-words for later searching. When you click this menu, DataBag opens a new window and the flower picture is pasted, and this window comes to the front because DataBag is now an active application. You click the beginning of the window and enter words, "tiff image, red flower". Now, you can get this data by Librarian with some proper key-word. "tiff", "flower", "red flower", or "tiff red flower" are some examples of key-word. If your key-word is loose one ("tiff" is a example), more data may be selected. On the contrary, if the key-word is tight ("tiff red flower" are examples. AND-searching is done if you enter two or more words), a very few may be selected. You record your voice with Sound.app for some reason. You launch Sound.app, click Record button, speak "Hello, World" and click Stop button. After recording completes, you come to save it for later usage. To do it, you click Edit button and select what you actually want to save. You may exclude the beginning&end blank space. After the selection completes, you do copy by Copy menu, open a new DataBag window, and paste it. Now, sound data is copied to DataBag window and you will see the ordinary SND icon displayed on it. You may add some key-word as a usual manner. If you want to hear this sound, double clicking the SND icon is sufficient. Sound.app is launched and you hear it. When you finish your computer work, you save these newly created DataBag windows. To do it, it is sufficient to click DataBag's Data/SaveAll menu. You are not asked the directory nor file name. When you retrieve the saved data, you can use the powerful Librarian feature like the indexing feature and regular expression searching. Of course, you can change the content of what you have saved. For example, you search and open the red flower picture by Librarian searching with "red flower". When the window opens, you can add "This picture is written by Picasso in 1950" at the end of the window. From now on, if you search by "Picasso" or "1950", this data is always selected. Or you can delete the red flower image by ordinary NeXTSTEP edit operation like Backspace or Edit/Delete menu. When you do delete, DataBag deletes the graphic image saved internally. DataBag does complete internal data managing. If you don't like accidental change against your (valuable) data, you can lock the window. DataBag has one more important feature: If you click a special button, DataBag lists up data which you have not opened for more than one year. Because these data are not considered to have any valuable information, it is a good idea to delete them from DataBag entries. I'm sorry for such a long article, but please let add two more important feature. When you copy non-text data (like tiff data or sound data as I described above), I wrote that you enter some key-word at the same time. But if you feel that it is nuisance, you can omit it temporarily. That is, you can click Services/DataBag/NewData(background) menu sequentially omitting entering key-word. When you have time to spare in the future, you can list up these 'visible character not included' data by clicking DataBag's special button. Once DataBag lists up, you can open it and enter some proper key-word. When it is completed, Librarian.app can search these data correctly. There are some data files whose content you cannot copy correctly by Cut&Paste. I'm not sure but WriteNow file may be such a example. If you try to copy and paste the content of WriteNow file to ordinary NeXTSTEP application (Edit.app, Mail.app, or DataBag etc.), the character content should be copied correctly but some information lacks (tab space? for example, though I'm not sure). If you are going to save such a file to DataBag, it is a good idea to do Copy&Paste anyway and also do Drag&Drop (drag this file to DataBag's window and file icon is displayed on the window). Once you have done, Library.app does searching fine because the character content has been copied correctly. When you need to look at the exact content of this file, you can do it by double clicking the icon. Double clicking launches WriteNow and open this file. You can look at the exact content, and also you can modify (and save) its content if you hope. Using this technique, DataBag can manage ALL data which runs on NeXT. Thank you. PS: I have placed DataBag demo to two ftp sites. Please try it if you are interested in. ---------------------------------------------------------- sonata.cc.purdue.edu: /pub/next/submissions -rw-r--r-- 1 ftp ftp 3916 Aug 19 12:14 DataBag-1.05b-README -rw-r--r-- 1 ftp ftp 784633 Aug 19 12:33 DataBag-1.05b.tar.Z cs.orst.edu: /pub/next/submissions -rw-rw-rw- 1 ftp student 3916 Aug 19 08:42 DataBag-1.05b-README -rw-rw-rw- 1 ftp student 784633 Aug 19 08:49 DataBag-1.05b.tar.Z ---------------------------------------------------------- -- Shin'ichirou Sugou (NeXTmail acceptable)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: gvh@metrosoft.com (Gordon Van Huizen) Subject: Re: Databag and moderating comp.sys.next.announce Message-ID: <1993Aug25.213116.7938@metrosoft.com> Sender: gvh@metrosoft.com Organization: Metrosoft References: <25e0gt$pa6@hermes.athena.com> Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1993 21:31:16 GMT In article <25e0gt$pa6@hermes.athena.com> tracy@athena.com (Tracy Kugelman) writes: > > Scott has been doing a great job of moderating and it would be a loss to > drive him out of the job. > Absolutely true, if an understatement. Gordon -- Gordon Van Huizen vox: 619.488.9411 fax: 619.488.3045 Metrosoft gvh@metrosoft.com [NeXTmail welcome]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: gvh@metrosoft.com (Gordon Van Huizen) Subject: Re: Has anyone else looked at Databag on cs.orst.edu Message-ID: <1993Aug25.214759.8055@metrosoft.com> Sender: gvh@metrosoft.com Organization: Metrosoft References: <jeffo.745794594@uiuc.edu> Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1993 21:47:59 GMT In article <jeffo.745794594@uiuc.edu> jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) writes: > I got the exact same impression "Why would anyone need this, let alone > pay *anything* for it?" when I read the announcement in > c.s.n.announce. > > [...munch...] > > As far as I could determine, it seemed like another useless > application to add to the NeXTSTEP software library. Yeah, but you nearly ALWAYS get that impression. Sort of like Crispin saying "Hey folks, I have a criticisim on NeXT"... :) As a (hopefully) humorous aside, does anyone else get the same impression I do from the product name "DataBag"? I can't help but think of the ST:TNG episode where a small alternative form of life refers to the humanoids of the Enterprise as "ugly bags of mostly water". :) :) :) for the humor-impaired. ========================================================= Disclaimer: The above comments are NOT based on any working knowledge of DataBag but are merely a product of my warped sense of humor. DataBag sounds like an interesting product but I haven't had time to check it out. I haven't even taken time to dig into the most innovative NEXTSTEP app I've ever seen, which is sitting on my hard disk waiting to be played with... ========================================================= -- Gordon Van Huizen vox: 619.488.9411 fax: 619.488.3045 Metrosoft gvh@metrosoft.com [NeXTmail welcome]
From: annard@theborg.stack.urc.tue.nl (Annard Brouwer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Adobe's Sonata font & Nutation Date: 24 Aug 1993 22:43:52 GMT Organization: the Borg Distribution: world Message-ID: <25e5j8$10r@theborg.stack.urc.tue.nl> References: <25dupm$ih4@pith.uoregon.edu> In article <25dupm$ih4@pith.uoregon.edu> adams@bright.uoregon.edu (Jeff Adams) writes: > > I was excited to hear about Nutation earlier this year, since I really want > to do some notation things with my NeXT. I dutifully ordered the Sonata font > from our college bookstore and bought an upgrade to 2.0. > > Now, three months after I ordered it, the bookstore says it can't get the > Sonata font from the suppliers, and that (get this:) > >> Adobe has stopped making fonts of any sort for the NeXT ! << > There is a way (two ways, no three ways. There are three ways): some tools (commercial and on the archives) are available for the NeXT which can convert fonts for Macs/Windogs to our Beloved System. Another approach is: go to a Mac, open a file in a application and type something in Sonata. Then print it to a PostScript file and hack out the part %%BeginFont ... %%EndFont. Now get the afm-file and your ready to Rock-n-Roll... Toodlepip, Annard -- Annard Brouwer annard@stack.urc.tue.nl (NeXTmail appreciated) People? You can forget it.
From: maurices@spock.dis.cccd.edu (Maurice Shihadi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Need net address of makers of Co-Xist (Pencom) and Planet X (?). Date: 25 Aug 1993 17:28:05 -0700 Organization: Coast Community College District, Costa Mesa, CA Message-ID: <25h02l$n0v@spock.dis.cccd.edu> Any help would be appreciated. maurices
From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Adobe's Sonata font & Nutation Date: 26 Aug 1993 00:09:18 GMT Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742 Distribution: world Message-ID: <25guve$3lh@neomimsy.cs.umd.edu> References: <25dupm$ih4@pith.uoregon.edu> <25e5j8$10r@theborg.stack.urc.tue.nl> In article <25e5j8$10r@theborg.stack.urc.tue.nl> rcbaab@urc.tue.nl writes: > Another approach is: go to a Mac, open a file in a application and type > something in Sonata. Then print it to a PostScript file and hack out the > part %%BeginFont ... %%EndFont. Now get the afm-file and your ready to Rock-n-Roll... of course this is after you purchased the Sonata font in Mac format and this is just the way to convert it for use on our beloved computer ... -- Alex Blakemore alex@cs.umd.edu NeXT mail accepted -------------------------------------------------------------- "Without an engaged and motivated human being at the keyboard, the computer is just another dumb box." William Raspberry
From: tim.spencer@mccaw.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Fat NewsGrazer or other GUI News readers? Date: 26 Aug 1993 00:43:21 GMT Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <25h0v9$c14@ftp-p.mccaw.com> Keywords: news fat Hello! I am interested in finding a fat version of some sort of GUI newsreader. I like NewsGrazer, but I must NXHost it from a black box and it does not run as snappily as I desire. I can certainly live with gnus, but it's nice to be able to have a native app to show people... I'm sure this has all been rehashed before, but I have very little time to read news! Consequently, if you could email me solutions at tim.spencer@mccaw.com, I would be eternally grateful for a couple of months :-). Have fun!
From: shin@esug.co.jp (Sugou Shinichirou) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Databag and moderating comp.sys.next.announce Message-ID: <SHIN.93Aug26102453@sgtp.esug.co.jp> Date: 26 Aug 93 01:24:53 GMT References: <25dv2n$5op@digifix.digifix.com> <25ejl5$k7i@usenet.rpi.edu> Sender: shin@sgtp.esug.co.jp Organization: SG Total Planning, Japan In-reply-to: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu's message of 25 Aug 93 11:43:49 JST Posting seems to have failed. Forgive me if this article is duplicated. In article <25dv2n$5op@digifix.digifix.com> sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) writes: >> I asked a question, hoping for clarification on what exactly I was >> missing. His message did clarify it. However, I still don't feel that >> there is significant difference between what DataBag does and what Edit.app >> does. Thats not a reason to stop marketing it, that is a reason to sit back >> and go, what do I need to do to make it better. I wrote "DataBag. What is it?" and posted it now to this news group. I tried to clarify the difference as much as I can. But if you have any more questions, please tell me straightforwardly (at your ease). >> As for my your comment that I as MODERATOR of comp.sys.next.announce >> should moderate my opinions in other areas... forget it. I'd drop moderating >> first rather than do that. >> >> My entire 'job' for comp.sys.next.announce is to make sure postings are >> appropriate for that group. I do that. According to the mail that I have >> recieved, some people feel I do it well. But I have to say that I am getting >> sick and tired of taking the grief that comes with the position. I don't mind that you are the moderator. On the contrary, you kindly pointed out that the price information was lacked when I was going to post to c.s.n.announce. Thanks. -- Shin'ichirou Sugou (NeXTmail acceptable)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer From: mark@taylor.uucp (Mark A. Davis) Subject: Re: Deciding Between UNIXWARE And NeXTSTEP? Organization: Lake Taylor Hospital Computer Services Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1993 02:10:41 GMT Message-ID: <1993Aug26.021041.19364@taylor.uucp> References: <1993Aug23.004334.26476@taylor.uucp> <Aug23.025415.31923@acs.ucalgary.ca> <1993Aug23.131841.2625@taylor.uucp> <Aug23.155109.55345@acs.ucalgary.ca> <CC9wnA.EoJ@gator.oau.org> <1993Aug24.182641.13287@taylor.uucp> <CCC0vB.Buy@gator.oau.org> larry@gator.oau.org (Larry D Snyder) writes: >mark@taylor.uucp (Mark A. Davis) writes: >>larry@gator.oau.org (Larry D Snyder) writes: >>>bstone@acs.ucalgary.ca (Blake Stone) writes: >>>>Where are these products for Linux? (cough, gasp) >>>They won't be there. Why should Word Perfect develop an application >>>for an operating system that is free? >>That is a silly thing to say. COFF/ELF is under development for Linux. So it >>WABI. When they are complete, a vast array of software will be available. >But what are the chances that software vendors will support the Linux >environment? I mean, if you call Progress and ask for support under >Linux -- do you think they will support it? Chances are, Linux will >not be a supported operating system even if Linux supports COFF/ELF. What would you do if you had a COFF commercial program for sale and a brand new market just popped up (rather large potential too) and could use your software without your hardly lifting a finger? And what if they don't directly support it? Use it unsupported. Call another company who mmight decide to pick up support for that app (strange, but I have seen stranger). I think your pessimism is too early.... -- /--------------------------------------------------------------------------\ | Mark A. Davis | Lake Taylor Hospital | Norfolk, VA (804)-461-5001x431 | | Sys.Administrator| Computer Services | mark@taylor.wyvern.com .uucp | \--------------------------------------------------------------------------/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bstone@acs.ucalgary.ca (Blake Stone) Subject: Re: Help with WriteNow headers Message-ID: <Aug26.032423.41410@acs.ucalgary.ca> Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1993 03:24:23 GMT References: <CCBL1J.B7w@athena.ulaval.ca> Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta > Well, I thought that WriteNow (2.0, v.37) was simple, but here > is the problem: How does one remove headers/footers? I know > that you can edit them and empty them, but this does not seem > to actually remove them... (I also tried editing the file with > edit.app, but it crashes WriteNow once the headers are > removed). > > Help! Use the View menu option "Show Markers", or command-y to display the header / footer codes graphically and delete them like you would any other form of text. You can also cut & paste them in this manner, which can come in handy. -- Blake W. Stone | DKW Systems Corporation Chief Technical Officer | A N[EXTSTEP,eXT[STEP,step,Step]] VAR bstone@acs.ucalgary.ca | | ... couldn't have been ME
Newsgroups: comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer From: mark@taylor.uucp (Mark A. Davis) Subject: Re: Deciding Between UNIXWARE And NeXTSTEP? Organization: Lake Taylor Hospital Computer Services Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1993 02:13:27 GMT Message-ID: <1993Aug26.021327.19497@taylor.uucp> References: <1993Aug23.004334.26476@taylor.uucp> <Aug23.025415.31923@acs.ucalgary.ca> <1993Aug23.131841.2625@taylor.uucp> <Aug23.155109.55345@acs.ucalgary.ca> <CC9wnA.EoJ@gator.oau.org> <WAYNE.93Aug24200145@backbone.uucp> <CCC10I.C3F@gator.oau.org> larry@gator.oau.org (Larry D Snyder) writes: >wayne@backbone.uucp (Wayne Schlitt) writes: >> free/cheap that commercial companies won't support it. After all, >> DOS is practically free as is OS/2 on IBM PS/2's, and Unix on most >> workstations. >Yes, but DOS is used slightly more than Linux, afterall, everyone has >heard of DOS, but how many folks have heard of Linux? According to statistics, millions at this point. >>2) The reason why Word Perfect _might_ develop an application for >> Linux is because of it's install base, especially if it grows by >> another order of magnitude, or two. >Actually, WP is interested in the potential for making money for >a specific environment -- It is doubtful that WP will port WP to Linux. They might, however, modify a few install scripts and tweek some things for the COFF version if it ran under Linux. The EXACT same thing they are doing for 5.4.2 at this time! -- /--------------------------------------------------------------------------\ | Mark A. Davis | Lake Taylor Hospital | Norfolk, VA (804)-461-5001x431 | | Sys.Administrator| Computer Services | mark@taylor.wyvern.com .uucp | \--------------------------------------------------------------------------/
From: dcurfman@perot.mtsu.edu (Mr. Don Curfman) Newsgroups: comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Re: Deciding Between UNIXWARE And NeXTSTEP? Date: 26 Aug 1993 03:37:11 GMT Organization: Middle Tennessee State University, Murfreesboro, Tennessee Message-ID: <25hb57$oak@perot.mtsu.edu> References: <westesCC6ELA.77I@netcom.com> <1993Aug23.004334.26476@taylor.uucp> <Aug23.025415.31923@acs.ucalgary.ca> <1993Aug23.131841.2625@taylor.uucp> In <1993Aug23.131841.2625@taylor.uucp> mark@taylor.uucp (Mark A. Davis) writes: >bstone@acs.ucalgary.ca (Blake Stone) writes: >>NeXTSTEP provides a pretty standard BSD face, so getting most >>UNIX tools up an running is pretty straightforward. Are there >>any in particular you are looking for? >Yeah, and BSD faces are dead- they have been merged into System 5.4.2. Having spent the last four months trying to get SysV R4.2 to talk to the Ultrix boxes on the lan, I couldn't disagree more. Software written on a BSD machine CANNOT be compiled on a SVR4.2 machine without extensive modifications. The file system is arranged differently, The BSD Sockets have given me fits (There are pieces missing), etc. etc. What USL has added is a certain degree of BSD Compatability (In an add-on package, NOT part of the foundation set). So you get things like nroff and troff etc. Nice, but far from making System V into BSD. If I was buying a UNIX system instead of working on one sombody else bought (without asking my opinion) I would not even consider System V, simply because of portability problems. >Mainstream Unixes are like SCO, Sun, Dec, 5.4.2. All propriatary to a certain extent. Especially Sun's solaris, it's strange... >>> It seems NeXT is going out of their way to produce *YET >>> ANOTHER* flavor of Unix and make it different and incompatible >>> enough to be dysfunctional. Nope, BSD 4.3 is not another flavor of UNIX. It's what our DEC Ultrix claims to be. Which you have declared to be standard. >BSD is not longer a standard Unix flavor (boy can I see the flames coming). >It has been folded into the now standard Unix flavor- 5.4.2. I am not >saying it is better or worse, just not standard now. In Univel's dreams only. >Linux is mainstream. Just not commercially mainstream. >It is completely standard- from using the X interface >to the 5.4.2'ish look and feel. It is built on all the common tools we all >use such as gcc. Linux has the MooLit toolkit? hmmmm... Does Univel know this? While I'm sure we all wish that every program would run on every platform and under every OS, reality dictates otherwise. Whatever you choose will exclude you from something. Only the end user can decide which capabilities are important and which can be sacrificed. (but LINUX? jeez...) Don Curfman
From: michael@denwa.info.com (Michael Gersten) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP is a memory HOG! Date: 25 Aug 1993 21:46:21 -0700 Organization: Info Connections, West Los Angeles Message-ID: <25hf6t$qnj@denwa.info.com> References: <24gpam$2ut@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> <Aug15.073135.23769@acs.ucalgary.ca> Keywords: NESTSTEP MEMORY HOG DISK SPACE In article <Aug15.073135.23769@acs.ucalgary.ca> bstone@acs.ucalgary.ca (Blake Stone) writes: >Take it with a grain of salt. Realistically, in real memory it >looks like 2MB for the window server, 3MB for the kernel, 1.5MB >for shared libraries, 0.5MB for daemons. > >Net result: You really need about 7MB for the "base stuff". > >An 8MB machine has about 1MB left for applications and window Well, let me give my measurements: I have an 8 meg, running 3.1. I've been up since the 16th, and it's the 25th right now (about 9 days.) (542) % vm_stat Mach Virtual Memory Statistics: (page size of 8192 bytes) Pages free: 24. Pages active: 347. Pages inactive: 260. Pages wired down: 278. "Translation faults": 11464006. Pages copy-on-write: 497805. Pages zero filled: 463953. Pages reactivated: 2584917. Pageins: 615016. Pageouts: 310735. Object cache: 236417 hits of 254507 lookups (92% hit rate) (543) % I have 278 pages wired; that's high. That's nearly reboot time, but I've got too many thing going on. (It's about 70 after reboot, 110 after starting the window server and terminal, and about 150 or so after starting workspace and a bunch of apps. It climbs slowly from there.) A test program shows that I can still get about 2.2 megs of space to a program that does no drawing of any kind (just page faults through memory repeatedly; csh's "time" output does the measurements). Under 3.0, I could eek out just under 3 megs; perhaps if I tried with a smaller wired down I can still get there. (lets see, 100 pages, 8K per page, that's 800K, or yep -- enough to get to 3 megs.) Michael -- Michael Gersten michael@stb.info.com NeXT Registered Developer (NeRD) # 3860 -- Hire me! (Ready around 10/93) Standing for a government of Integrity and No Special Cases; running for President on this platform in 2000. Contacts, volunteers, helpers needed.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) Subject: Re: 3.2 - when? Message-ID: <1993Aug26.070626.20912@csus.edu> Sender: news@csus.edu Organization: San Francisco State University References: <CC4KG0.KyJ.3@cs.cmu.edu> <25933t$aui@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1993 07:06:26 GMT Barring any last-minute "show stoppers," 3.2 is pretty much finished. If you have any MAJOR bug reports, send them in NOW. Otherwise, you'll have to wait until 3.3 (yes, it looks like there will be a 3.3 before there's a 4.0). -=EPS=-
From: shin@esug.co.jp (Sugou Shinichirou) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NS 3.0-J Message-ID: <SHIN.93Aug26173200@sgtp.esug.co.jp> Date: 26 Aug 93 08:32:00 GMT References: <MARTIN.93Aug12122646@hagi.noguchi.riec.tohoku.ac.jp> Sender: shin@sgtp.esug.co.jp Distribution: comp Organization: SG Total Planning, Japan In-reply-to: martin@hagi.noguchi.riec.tohoku.ac.jp's message of 12 Aug 93 12:26:46 JST In article <MARTIN.93Aug12122646@hagi.noguchi.riec.tohoku.ac.jp> martin@hagi.noguchi.riec.tohoku.ac.jp (martin) writes: Path: sgtp!iijnet!news.iij.ad.jp!wnoc-tyo-news!sh.wide!wnoc-snd-ss2!sakunami!sakunami!martin From: martin@hagi.noguchi.riec.tohoku.ac.jp (martin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Date: 12 Aug 93 12:26:46 JST Distribution: comp Organization: Shiratori Lab., Tohoku Univ., Sendai, Japan Lines: 24 NNTP-Posting-Host: hagi.noguchi.riec.tohoku.ac.jp Hello everybody, Here's another question concerning NS-J 3.0: If I install NS-J 3.0, will all menues be in Japanese, i.e. also the Workspace Managers menues etc.? Will the menues change to English if I change the pre- ferred language to English with the Preferences program? I 'd be happy if somebody who used NS 3.x-J could write me about his or her experiences. I'm using NS-J 3.0. What you say is right. You can change English<-->Japanese with Preference. Also, you can change the Language of each application. For example, you can set Edit.app Japanese mode while Librarian.app English. To do it, type following command from Terminal.app: % dwrite Edit.app NXLanguages Japanese NeXT is the only computer whose language related environment I'm completely satisfied with. Mac is not good. Canon did a great job. -- Shin'ichirou Sugou (NeXTmail acceptable)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: znih!dbhinz (David Hinz) Subject: Re: 3.2 - when? Message-ID: <1993Aug26.041530.1277@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> Keywords: 3.2 Sender: dbhinz@nugget.rmNUG.ORG Organization: Hz Consulting References: <25933t$aui@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1993 04:15:30 GMT In article <25933t$aui@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> ddaniel@bard.MIT.EDU (Daniel E. Bromberg) writes: | In article <CC4KG0.KyJ.3@cs.cmu.edu> rane+@cs.cmu.edu (Aaron Hughes) | writes: | > | > Anybody have any idea when 3.2 will be released - I haven't been | watching | > too closely, so I may have missed any announcement that came through. | | When I called NeXT, they told me it would probably be released late this | fall (october.) | Daniel Bromberg | ddaniel@athena.mit.edu I called and registered my 3.1 Developer and 3.1 User licenses on Monday, and was told that 3.2 won't be released until AT LEAST December 1st, probably January 1st. He wouldn't say why it has slipped. Hopefully, they are adding more features/bug fixes.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) Subject: Re: Non-NeXT CD-ROM titles In-Reply-To: me@ienext.unl.edu's message of 25 Aug 93 18:16:44 GMT To: me@ienext.unl.edu (Dan Scott) Message-ID: <CEDMAN.93Aug25161520@capitalist.princeton.edu> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University References: <25gaac$6m2@crcnis1.unl.edu> Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1993 20:15:19 GMT In article <25gaac$6m2@crcnis1.unl.edu> me@ienext.unl.edu (Dan Scott) writes: What I really wonder about is the large number of CD-ROMs that are produced for the IBMs and Macs. Are there any problems in using such disks? Are there any that you would particularly recommend? The good news is that there is a standard filesystem for CD ROMs called ISO 9660 in which virtually all CD ROMs for all systems are published. As a consequences you can in general buy CD ROMs for Macs or PCs, list directories and read files on them. The bad news is that many PC and Mac CD ROMs contain most of their data in proprietary file formats which can only be sensibly deciphered with access software on the CD ROM which won't run on NeXTs. So, if you want to buy a "PC" or "Mac" disk of ASCII text, postscript, rich text, source code, TIFF clipart or GIF pictures, you should be fine on a NeXT. On the other hand encyclopedias, atlases, animations, and most games won't work. A rare exception to the last are the Lost Treasure of Infocom compilations of all Infocom adventures on CD ROM, almost all of which will work without problems on NeXTs with any of the PD infocom interpreters. If I ever find myself with too much time on my hands, I intend to buy one of the PC encyclopedias, reverse engineer the text and index formats and write a free Webster-like interface for it, but when that will occur only the gods themselves know. Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer From: mark@taylor.uucp (Mark A. Davis) Subject: Re: Deciding Between UNIXWARE And NeXTSTEP? Organization: Lake Taylor Hospital Computer Services Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1993 12:49:13 GMT Message-ID: <1993Aug26.124913.23421@taylor.uucp> References: <westesCC6ELA.77I@netcom.com> <1993Aug23.004334.26476@taylor.uucp> <Aug23.025415.31923@acs.ucalgary.ca> <1993Aug23.131841.2625@taylor.uucp> <25hb57$oak@perot.mtsu.edu> dcurfman@perot.mtsu.edu (Mr. Don Curfman) writes: >In <1993Aug23.131841.2625@taylor.uucp> mark@taylor.uucp (Mark A. Davis) writes: >>bstone@acs.ucalgary.ca (Blake Stone) writes: >>>NeXTSTEP provides a pretty standard BSD face, so getting most >>>UNIX tools up an running is pretty straightforward. Are there >>>any in particular you are looking for? >>Yeah, and BSD faces are dead- they have been merged into System 5.4.2. >Having spent the last four months trying to get SysV R4.2 to talk to the >Ultrix boxes on the lan, I couldn't disagree more. Software written on >a BSD machine CANNOT be compiled on a SVR4.2 machine without extensive >modifications. The file system is arranged differently, The BSD Sockets >have given me fits (There are pieces missing), etc. etc. What USL has >added is a certain degree of BSD Compatability (In an add-on package, >NOT part of the foundation set). So you get things like nroff and >troff etc. Nice, but far from making System V into BSD. The last sentence of your statement is the key. System V.4 is not trying to BE BSD, just to incorporate some of the better features in an attempt to make the newer Unixes closer together and more featureful. >If I was buying a UNIX system instead of working on one sombody else bought >(without asking my opinion) I would not even consider System V, simply >because of portability problems. ?? It depends on what you are porting from. Certainly the point of making porting easier, and bringing Unix together into one is to merge people together, not choose opposing poles. >>Mainstream Unixes are like SCO, Sun, Dec, 5.4.2. >All propriatary to a certain extent. Especially Sun's solaris, it's >strange... Nothing could be stranger than pure BSD compared to pre release 4 of System V. You hit the nail on the head, anyway. Even close Unixes are still not close enough (at least for software interoperability). >>BSD is not longer a standard Unix flavor (boy can I see the flames coming). >>It has been folded into the now standard Unix flavor- 5.4.2. I am not >>saying it is better or worse, just not standard now. >In Univel's dreams only. >>Linux is mainstream. Just not commercially mainstream. >>It is completely standard- from using the X interface >>to the 5.4.2'ish look and feel. It is built on all the common tools we all >>use such as gcc. >Linux has the MooLit toolkit? hmmmm... Does Univel know this? Who said that MooLit is standard? I did not say that Unixware was THE standard right now, just that 5.4.X systems are. Motif is the declared standard now- determined by the market and COSE. Most things will gravitate to it. Will this hurt Novell if they don't fix Unixware, yes. >While I'm sure we all wish that every program would run on every >platform and under every OS, reality dictates otherwise. Whatever you >choose will exclude you from something. Only the end user can decide >which capabilities are important and which can be sacrificed. Unfortunately that is the market we currently live in :( -- /--------------------------------------------------------------------------\ | Mark A. Davis | Lake Taylor Hospital | Norfolk, VA (804)-461-5001x431 | | Sys.Administrator| Computer Services | mark@taylor.wyvern.com .uucp | \--------------------------------------------------------------------------/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Jon_Hendry@afs.com Subject: Re: Deciding Between UNIXWARE And NeXTSTEP? Message-ID: <1993Aug26.145317.5365@afs.com> Sender: jon@afs.com References: <1993Aug26.124913.23421@taylor.uucp> Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1993 14:53:17 GMT In article <1993Aug26.124913.23421@taylor.uucp> mark@taylor.uucp (Mark A. Davis) writes: | The last sentence of your statement is the key. System V.4 is not trying | to BE BSD, just to incorporate some of the better features in an attempt to | make the newer Unixes closer together and more featureful. NEXTSTEP is not trying to BE UNIX, just to incorporate some of the better features... -- Jon Hendry Give me your finest #11 vinyl headsack. Cost is no object! <jon@afs.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software From: (Horace Lim) hal@codex.com.au Subject: OOBBMS State of play in NeXT marketplace Message-ID: <1993Aug26.140815.1547@codex.oz.au> Keywords: OODBMS, NeXT, NEXTSTEP, Object Oriented, Data Base Sender: hal@codex.oz.au Organization: Codex Software Development Pty Ltd Date: Thu, 26 Aug 93 14:08:15 GMT I would like to know how widely used are Object Oriented Data Base Management Systems in the NeXT marketplace and industry in general. I understand, Versant is the only OODBMS shipping on NEXTSTEP. Do DBKit adapters exist for Versant? What about some of the others such as Objectivity and Object Design, Inc.'s Object Store. Certainly, OODBMS (at least client side) deserves to be strong under NEXTSTEP, it's the finest object oriented environment available! There aren't many decent CASE tools out therem let alone ones that support OODBMS. Several years back, I was involved in setting up a cataloguing/inventory database application on a IBM-C mainframe... I think we had close to 400 tables using a relational DBMS. If only I had a OODBMS to work with then... it would have been perfect and much less painful... Horace Lim (AKA HaL) Internet: HaL@xedoc.com.au -- --------------------------------------------------- Horace A. Lim (a.k.a. Hal) Internet : hal@xedoc.com.au (NeXTMail welcome and appreciated) AppleLink: AUST0335
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: bstone@acs.ucalgary.ca (Blake Stone) Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP is a memory HOG! Message-ID: <Aug26.174409.41065@acs.ucalgary.ca> Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1993 17:44:09 GMT References: <24gpam$2ut@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> <Aug15.073135.23769@acs.ucalgary.ca> <25hf6t$qnj@denwa.info.com> Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta Keywords: NESTSTEP MEMORY HOG DISK SPACE > I have 278 pages wired; that's high. That's nearly reboot time, > but I've got too many thing going on. (It's about 70 after > reboot, 110 after starting the window server and terminal, and > about 150 or so after starting workspace and a bunch of apps. > It climbs slowly from there.) Before anybody starts checking their "wired page" count and flipping out, this isn't my experience at all. Pages wired down: 328. Is what I get just after rebooting and opening a terminal. Of course, some of that is due to the number of buffers 3.1 automatically allocates for me, so if you have less memory, you won't have as much memory wired down. NONE of this memory has anything to do with applications. No application can even request to wire a page in memory! After starting another six applications: Pages wired down: 340. "But you said applications can wire down memory!". True. Kernel-level code and device drivers can, though. Since one of the applications I launced was CDPlayer, it loaded a new file system, which wired down memory. The same thing happens if you insert a DOS disk, or a CD-ROM. I just inserted one of the latter, and boom: Pages wired down: 348. ... due to loading a new filesystem. Proof? From a terminal as root, I type "kl_util -u CDROM" to unload the filesystem (after ejecting the disk!) and: Pages wired down: 340. Unloading this stuff won't occur normally, it just isn't loaded at startup time for efficiency's sake, but they stay around after dynamically loading unless you explicitly get rid of them. I am aware of NO wired memory leaks that force you to reboot your system occasionally (other memory leaks are another matter :-) ). Wired memory will go up as more servers are loaded but will reach an equilibrium and stop. All you're doing by rebooting is forcing them to all dynamically reload again and slowing the system down! -- Blake W. Stone | DKW Systems Corporation Chief Technical Officer | A N[EXTSTEP,eXT[STEP,step,Step]] VAR bstone@acs.ucalgary.ca | | ... couldn't have been ME
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: kgnome@cs.concordia.ca (S. Matis, 13th Generation) Subject: NoteBook Demo ? Message-ID: <CCDoxG.Lrt@newsflash.concordia.ca> Sender: usenet@newsflash.concordia.ca (USENET News System) Organization: Wolfnet Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1993 18:05:39 GMT I'm about to write a couple of books in the near future and decide to investigate NoteBook for it's abilities. Is it on any site or CD-ROM in Demo format ? Any help is much appreciated. S.I. Matis
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: scwg0600@ih-nxt01.cso.uiuc.edu (Steven C Weintz) Subject: Re: Non-NeXT CD-ROM titles Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1993 18:51:32 GMT Message-ID: <CCDr1w.G2t@news.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <1993Aug25.182839.17436@news.nd.edu> Sender: usenet@news.cso.uiuc.edu (Net Noise owner) Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana In article <1993Aug25.182839.17436@news.nd.edu> gross@stimpy.ame.nd.edu (George B. Ross) writes: > In article <25gaac$6m2@crcnis1.unl.edu> me@ienext.unl.edu (Dan Scott) > writes: > > I am finally getting a CD-ROM player for my NeXTStation Color. > > My main motivation is because of upgrades, but I am also > > interested in purchasing some good CD-ROMs for general reference > > and entertainment. For example, I think I will get that Birds of > > Europe CD-ROM since it sounds cool. I also know there are some > > CD-ROMs that contain a lot of NeXT specific stuff and I expect > > to get some of these too. > > > > What I really wonder about is the large number of CD-ROMs that > > are produced for the IBMs and Macs. Are there any problems in > > using such disks? Are there any that you would particularly > > recommend? > > > > Thanks! > I am interested in the same info. I am finding it hard to > justify the expense of a CD player to be used only for OS upgrades > and playing music. > Hmmm...another untapped market waiting to explode...and one i'd like to jump into. I'd like to get hands-on experience with Callisto and CraftMan. Callisto can make CD-I disks with the right hardware, but i don't know of any standard CD burner set up for NeXTSTEP. Wonder what Paget Press uses for the Electronic App Wrapper? Here we have the most awesome multimedia machines imaginable, and too little content so far to show for 4 years of sales! Steve Weintz
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: woo@polaris.scicntr.ortn.edu (J. W. Wooten) Subject: Software and Hardware to using lab instruments Message-ID: <1993Aug26.201714.21497@ornl.gov> Sender: usenet@ornl.gov (News poster) Organization: Oak Ridge National Laboratory Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1993 20:17:14 GMT Looking for software and hardware to use in teaching lab with TurboNeXTs. Want to measure termperature, salinity, ph, pressure, force, magnetic field, current, etc. Would prefer to use serial port. What instruments should I buy and what software is available for TurboNeXT? John W. Wooten Educational Technology Coordinator Oak Ridge National Laboratory
From: marcus@ursula.ee.pdx.edu (Marcus Daniels) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Desktop managers Date: 26 Aug 1993 13:51:25 -0700 Message-ID: <25j7od$20i@ursula.ee.pdx.edu> Summary: Looking for desktop manager which has smaller minimized icons. Keywords: small icons workspace desktop manager I thought I saw an advertisement once for a desktop manager which provided smaller icons for alternate docks and minimized icons. I tend to have tons of minimized documents, and am looking for a better way to manage 'em. Think I'm looking for some kind of smart shelf, programmable would be cool too. Is there such an app, or was I halluncinating? Any recomendations?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jpj@tinman (J Patrick Johnson) Subject: New Improved WriteNow ???? Message-ID: <1993Aug26.172755.29630@ximage.com> Sender: usenet@ximage.com (Usenet accout) Organization: XImage Corp. Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1993 17:27:55 GMT Any body have an idea what the latest release for WriteNow is for the black hardware ??? jpj@ximage.com
From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: New ideas for NS software (was: Re: Non-NeXT CD-ROM titles) Date: 26 Aug 93 21:26:21 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <jeffo.746400381@owens.slip.uiuc.edu> References: <25gaac$6m2@crcnis1.unl.edu> <CEDMAN.93Aug25161520@capitalist.princeton.edu> Carl Edman writes: >The bad news is that many PC and Mac CD ROMs contain most of their >data in proprietary file formats which can only be sensibly deciphered >with access software on the CD ROM which won't run on NeXTs. This bad news could be helped if there were (filters, readers, whatever you want to call them) that could read these formats. Something like the image filters being sold by (among others) the folks who make Pixel Magician. Something where you could buy a filter for, say, data from the mapping program MapInfo (runs on DOS and Windows) and have that filter convert it into some recognized structured format (I don't know what off the top of my head). -- J.B. Nicholson-Owens
From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: 3.2 - when? Date: 26 Aug 93 21:37:25 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <jeffo.746401045@owens.slip.uiuc.edu> References: <CC4KG0.KyJ.3@cs.cmu.edu> <25933t$aui@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> <1993Aug26.070626.20912@csus.edu> Eric P. Scott writes: >Otherwise, you'll have to wait until 3.3 (yes, it looks like >there will be a 3.3 before there's a 4.0). I've got three questions: 1) What will the upgrade policy be for 3.2 -> 3.3? 2) Is 3.3 going to be a bug fix release? 3) Any word on releasing the serial drivers for NS/Intel before the new year? Thanks. -- J.B. Nicholson-Owens
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: lloyd@world.std.com (Chris Lloyd) Subject: Re: New ideas for NS software (was: Re: Non-NeXT CD-ROM titles) Message-ID: <CCDzu4.G6y@world.std.com> Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA References: <25gaac$6m2@crcnis1.unl.edu> <CEDMAN.93Aug25161520@capitalist.princeton.edu> <jeffo.746400381@owens.slip.uiuc.edu> Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1993 22:01:15 GMT In article <jeffo.746400381@owens.slip.uiuc.edu> jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) writes: >Carl Edman writes: > >>The bad news is that many PC and Mac CD ROMs contain most of their >>data in proprietary file formats which can only be sensibly deciphered >>with access software on the CD ROM which won't run on NeXTs. > >This bad news could be helped if there were (filters, readers, >whatever you want to call them) that could read these formats. The problem is that even if you wanted desperately to write a filter, you need documentation for the format of the data, or spend a lot of time reverse engineering it - and the company that sells the disks with the access program might not be so congenial. >Something like the image filters being sold by (among others) the >folks who make Pixel Magician. Something where you could buy a filter >for, say, data from the mapping program MapInfo (runs on DOS and >Windows) and have that filter convert it into some recognized >structured format (I don't know what off the top of my head). The good news is that the places that sell these CD-ROMS don't typically conjure up all this information themselves, a lot of geological/map information can be bought very cheaply from the USGS on a variety of formats and reference material can be bought from the original source. Govt. provided information is very cheap, and free to distribute, but something like a ref. book would definitely incur a license fee. Of course you have to master the disks and so on, not cheap. The NeXT market is still too small to support anything like this tho, even if you could read PC/Mac disks, a good viewer program is still a lot of work. -- :: Christopher Lloyd :: Yrrid Incorporated :: lloyd@world.std.com :: :: NEXTSTEP Special Forces ::
From: madler@cco.caltech.edu (Mark Adler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: 3.2 - when? Date: 26 Aug 1993 23:45:57 GMT Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena Message-ID: <25jhvlINN7ld@gap.caltech.edu> References: <25933t$aui@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> <1993Aug26.041530.1277@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> Keywords: 3.2 >> Hopefully, they are adding more features/bug fixes. Hopefully, they are just adding bug fixes. Adding features is the same as adding more bugs, and could easily cancel the effect of the bug fixes. mark
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) Subject: Re: 3.2 - when? Message-ID: <1993Aug27.014823.28047@cs.yale.edu> Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News) Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT References: <25jhvlINN7ld@gap.caltech.edu> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1993 01:48:23 GMT In article <25jhvlINN7ld@gap.caltech.edu> madler@cco.caltech.edu (Mark Adler) writes: > > >> Hopefully, they are adding more features/bug fixes. > > Hopefully, they are just adding bug fixes. Adding features is the same > as adding more bugs, and could easily cancel the effect of the bug fixes. Ditto. NeXT must concentrate on bug fixes for 3.2! Release new features and drivers as separate packages, and leave the dot releases for bug fixes only, and freeze and distribute the damn releases on a reasonably tight schedule, like every four months. CDROMs are cheap; bad reputations for not fixing bugs are quite costly. -- Nathan "USENET" Janette PPP link from hilbert.csb.yale.edu Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
From: scwg0600@ih-nxt01.cso.uiuc.edu (Steven C Weintz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: New ideas for NS software (was: Re: Non-NeXT CD-ROM titles) Date: 27 Aug 1993 03:49:01 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <25k07d$os7@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <CCDzu4.G6y@world.std.com> In article <CCDzu4.G6y@world.std.com> lloyd@world.std.com (Chris Lloyd) writes: [mange, mange] > The good news is that the places that sell these CD-ROMS don't > typically conjure up all this information themselves, a lot of > geological/map information can be bought very cheaply from > the USGS on a variety of formats and reference material can be > bought from the original source. Govt. provided information is > very cheap, and free to distribute, but something like a ref. book > would definitely incur a license fee. Of course you have to master > the disks and so on, not cheap. > > The NeXT market is still too small to support anything like this tho, > even if you could read PC/Mac disks, a good viewer program is still a lot > of work. As a GIS user who's struggled with building printable maps within GRASS, the Army Corps of Engineers' PD GIS package, I can tell you that this field DESPERATELY needs NeXTSTEP's strengths. (Try drawing map symbols in vi!!!) I'd be real interested if someone with the know-how compiled GRASS 4.1 (it's UNIX stuff) on a NeXT and then built a proper graphical front-end. There's an X-GRASS that I hear is a royal pain to use. With DBKit, IXKit, 3DKit, IB and other tools NeXTSTEP should have a kick-ass-and-take-names GIS package. Steve Weintz University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (which I don't speak for) > :: Christopher Lloyd :: Yrrid Incorporated :: lloyd@world.std.com :: > :: NEXTSTEP Special Forces Hey, Chris, where do enlist? :-)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: frank@dendrite.sps.mot.com (Mark Frank) Subject: Word processor for NSI Message-ID: <1993Aug26.222608.8218@newsgate.sps.mot.com> Sender: news@newsgate.sps.mot.com Organization: SPS Distribution: usa Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1993 22:26:08 GMT Does anyone have any word processor recommendations for NSI? I actually liked WriteNow (it did most things I wanted, and was easy to learn), but I was told that there are no plans to port it to Intel. Any others out there? - Thanks, Mark -- Mark Frank frank@dendrite.sps.mot.com Motorola Inc. 2100 E. Elliot MD508 Tempe, AZ 85284
From: lusty@lusty.tamu.edu (Lusty Wench) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Adobe's Sonata font & Nutation Date: 25 Aug 1993 00:40:11 GMT Organization: Me Message-ID: <25ecdb$lfi@TAMUTS.TAMU.EDU> References: <1993Aug24.165328.23891@tkymail.sps.mot.com> <CCA6Jx.v9@world.std.com> <25dupm$ih4@pith.uoregon.edu> In article <25dupm$ih4@pith.uoregon.edu> adams@bright.uoregon.edu (Jeff Adams) writes: > <much wailing and gnashing of teeth over not being able to buy Adobe fonts> <for NeXT deleted > Call RightBrain Software at 415-326-2974, or send email to info@rightbrain.com. They are not only selling Adobe fonts for NeXT, they have them on sale for half price until the end of August :) Tell 'em Lusty sent you ;)
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Fat NewsGrazer or other GUI News readers? Date: 26 Aug 1993 07:29:12 +0100 Organization: me organized? That's a joke! Message-ID: <25hl7o$26r@steffi.demon.co.uk> References: <25h0v9$c14@ftp-p.mccaw.com> Keywords: news fat tim.spencer@mccaw.com wrote > Hello! I am interested in finding a fat version of some sort of >GUI newsreader. I like NewsGrazer, but I must NXHost it from a black box >and it does not run as snappily as I desire. I can certainly live with >gnus, but it's nice to be able to have a native app to show people... > I'm sure this has all been rehashed before, but I have very little >time to read news! Consequently, if you could email me solutions at >tim.spencer@mccaw.com, I would be eternally grateful for a couple of >months :-). Have fun! IMHO, Jayson would be very foolish if he or NeXT released a FAT version of NG. Basically a developer now has indicated that he's writing a product that will perform this service. Anybody who releases a FAT NG will be stepping on his toes. I don't think you will see a FAT NG unless it's NG-Pro.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bruce@TotSysSoft.com (Bruce Gingery) Subject: Re: Merging mailboxes across directories using Mail Message-ID: <1993Aug26.215337.13746@ToTSySSoft.com> Sender: news@ToTSySSoft.com Organization: Total System Software References: <1993Aug24.163236.6517@wuphys.wustl.edu> Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1993 21:53:37 GMT In article <1993Aug24.163236.6517@wuphys.wustl.edu> petcher@howdy.wustl.edu (Donald N. Petcher) wrote: -> Is there any way to get Mail to acknowledge mailboxes -> in two different directories (on two different disks)... As for SoftLinks -- Under 2.1 I set up a series of mbox diskettes, all with softlinks back to the primary ~/Mailboxes folder... I have not done anything with these since moving to 3.1, but presume that it would would still work Create new mailboxes with Mail.app Transfer messages to newly created mailboxe Close Mail.app Format a NeXT Floppy Name the NeXT-Floppy to exactly match the name of the mbox Command-Drag (move) the mbox to the floppy Control-Drag (link) the floppy copy back to the ~/Mailboxes If the appropriate diskette is inserted when Mail.app is started on subsequent uses, the mbox will be accessable. Bruce Gingery bruce@TotSysSoft.com NeXT-Mail preferred MIME-Mail ok
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: gvh@metrosoft.com (Gordon Van Huizen) Subject: Re: 3.2 - when? Message-ID: <1993Aug27.015310.11226@metrosoft.com> Sender: gvh@metrosoft.com Organization: Metrosoft References: <1993Aug26.041530.1277@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1993 01:53:10 GMT In article <1993Aug26.041530.1277@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> znih!dbhinz (David Hinz) writes: > I called and registered my 3.1 Developer and 3.1 User > licenses on Monday, and was told that 3.2 won't be > released until AT LEAST December 1st, probably January > 1st. He wouldn't say why it has slipped. Hopefully, they > are adding more features/bug fixes. Someone that should *definitely* know said "early November", as of this morning. Gordon -- Gordon Van Huizen vox: 619.488.9411 fax: 619.488.3045 Metrosoft gvh@metrosoft.com [NeXTmail welcome]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: gvh@metrosoft.com (Gordon Van Huizen) Subject: Re: Has anyone else looked at Databag on cs.orst.edu Message-ID: <1993Aug27.091539.11977@metrosoft.com> Sender: gvh@metrosoft.com Organization: Metrosoft References: <1993Aug25.214759.8055@metrosoft.com> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1993 09:15:39 GMT Following up on my own post, when I said... In article <1993Aug25.214759.8055@metrosoft.com> gvh@metrosoft.com (me, myself and I) wrote: > DataBag sounds like an > interesting product but I haven't had time to check it > out. I haven't even taken time to dig into the most > innovative NEXTSTEP app I've ever seen, which is sitting > on my hard disk waiting to be played with... I didn't really mean to solicit inquiries. I have received several, though. So for those of you that *are* curious (but not enough to click the "Reply" button) I was talking about Performance by Object Horizons. Chris Traynor was nice enough to send me a pre-beta, and I haven't yet had the time to sink my teeth into this gorgeous, significant product. But the weekend's coming... :-) Gordon -- Gordon Van Huizen vox: 619.488.9411 fax: 619.488.3045 Metrosoft gvh@metrosoft.com [NeXTmail welcome]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: simsong@next.cambridge.ma.us (Simson L. Garfinkel) Subject: Re: New Improved WriteNow ???? Message-ID: <1993Aug27.133718.10024@next.cambridge.ma.us> Sender: simsong@next.cambridge.ma.us Organization: NeXTWORLD Magazine References: <1993Aug26.172755.29630@ximage.com> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1993 13:37:18 GMT In article <1993Aug26.172755.29630@ximage.com> jpj@tinman (J Patrick Johnson) writes: > > Any body have an idea what the latest release for WriteNow is > for the black hardware ??? > > jpj@ximage.com Release 2.1 is the latest, greatest, and last. -- ................................................................simson
From: Darwish Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: console message Date: 27 Aug 1993 15:02:48 GMT Organization: HCF - Johns Hopkins University, Balitmore, Maryland, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <25l7moINNqb7@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> I keep getting the following message on my console: *** HashTable: count differs after rehashing; probably indicates a broken invariant: there are x and y such as isEqual(x, y) is TRUE but hash(x) != hash (y) Any idea what is causing it? Thanks. -- Miladus Edenessi Barbelo|Derdeka|Sakla Abrasax|Sablo|Gamaliel|Micheu|Michar|Mnesinous zaina=silah=panoplia=armatura
Newsgroups: comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer From: peter@nmti.com (peter da silva) Subject: Re: Deciding Between UNIXWARE And NeXTSTEP? Message-ID: <id.J9321.ALF@nmti.com> Organization: Network/development platform support, NMTI References: <westesCC6ELA.77I@netcom.com> <CEDMAN.93Aug22173930@capitalist.princeton.edu> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1993 16:19:04 GMT In article <CEDMAN.93Aug22173930@capitalist.princeton.edu> cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes: > No, all NeXTs run BSD 4.3 which is the standard UNIX architecture. Wow. That's two inoperative statements in one sentence. NeXT's OS is a BSD server running on top of Mach 2.5, and in most real-life terms System V is much more of a standard UNIX architecture than BSD these days. For all that BSD has less historical cruft, it's also gat far less market penetration. NeXTSTeP is a beautiful environment, and if Steve Jobs could figure out what business he needed to be in it'd be available for every UNIX box out there. The underlying O/S is nothing exceptional. -- Peter da Silva `-_-' Network Management Technology Incorporated 'U` 1601 Industrial Blvd. Sugar Land, TX 77478 USA +1 713 274 5180 "Hast Du heute schon Deinen Wolf umarmt?"
Newsgroups: comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer From: peter@nmti.com (peter da silva) Subject: Re: Deciding Between UNIXWARE And NeXTSTEP? Message-ID: <id.N9321.HRF@nmti.com> Organization: Network/development platform support, NMTI References: <1993Aug23.131841.2625@taylor.uucp> <Aug23.155109.55345@acs.ucalgary.ca> <CC9wnA.EoJ@gator.oau.org> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1993 16:23:11 GMT In article <CC9wnA.EoJ@gator.oau.org> larry@gator.oau.org (Larry D Snyder) writes: > They won't be there. Why should Word Perfect develop an application > for an operating system that is free? Why should Word Perfect care whether some random third party made any money from selling the O/S? -- Peter da Silva `-_-' Network Management Technology Incorporated 'U` 1601 Industrial Blvd. Sugar Land, TX 77478 USA +1 713 274 5180 "Hast Du heute schon Deinen Wolf umarmt?"
From: mlessin@cms.cc.wayne.edu (Matt Lessins) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: POP mail client for the NeXT Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1993 15:15:54 Organization: Wayne State University Message-ID: <mlessin.2.000F4452@cms.cc.wayne.edu> Is there a POP mail client for the NeXT? Thanks.... Matt Lessins mlessin@cms.cc.wayne.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc From: me@hal (David Wallin) Subject: NewsGrazer with different port. Message-ID: <1993Aug27.202945.6238@kth.se> Keywords: NewsGrazer Sender: usenet@kth.se Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, NADA Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1993 20:29:45 GMT Hi Net! I would like to know if it is possible to change what port NewsGrazer is using to connect to nntp. Default it is port 119, I want port <1000. -- David Wallin. (using erics' account) "somehow I imagined this experience d91-elu@nada.kth.se would be more rewarding." -Calvin. BEWARE: This .signature is a beta-version. It still contains some bugs.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: me@hal (David Wallin) Subject: NewsGrazer with different port. Message-ID: <1993Aug27.203048.6307@kth.se> Keywords: NewsGrazer Sender: usenet@kth.se Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, NADA Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1993 20:30:48 GMT Hi Net! I would like to know if it is possible to change what port NewsGrazer is using to connect to nntp. Default it is port 119, I want port <1000. -- David Wallin. (using erics' account) "somehow I imagined this experience d91-elu@nada.kth.se would be more rewarding." -Calvin. BEWARE: This .signature is a beta-version. It still contains some bugs.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: me@hal (David Wallin) Subject: NewsGrazer with different port. Message-ID: <1993Aug27.203237.6421@kth.se> Keywords: NewsGrazer Sender: usenet@kth.se Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, NADA Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1993 20:32:37 GMT Hi Net! I would like to know if it is possible to change what port NewsGrazer is using to connect to nntp. Default it is port 119, I want port <1000. -- David Wallin. (using erics' account) "somehow I imagined this experience d91-elu@nada.kth.se would be more rewarding." -Calvin. BEWARE: This .signature is a beta-version. It still contains some bugs.
Newsgroups: comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer From: mike@lorax.com (Mike Ferris) Subject: Re: Deciding Between UNIXWARE And NeXTSTEP? Message-ID: <CCFrnx.6yr@lorax.com> Sender: mike@lorax.com (Mike Ferris) Organization: Stultus Enterprises References: <25di5o$44m@news.mic.ucla.edu> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1993 20:59:56 GMT In article <25di5o$44m@news.mic.ucla.edu> ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) writes: > >[1] UnixWare's ads claim they have a free 1-800 number for > support. NeXT has a $200/call policy for individuals > (or a few thousand dollars per institution)--- Unix > for the rest of us? No way --- True. However, I have always gotten more prompt answers to my questions through comp.sys.next.programmer or the next-prog mailing list than I ever did from Next. This is not to say that Next isn't helpful, but there are thousands of people to answer your question through the net! In my opinion, this fact makes Next's support pricing less hard to bear. ____________________________________________________________ Mike Ferris God, to me... mike@lorax.com is a verb, not a noun, Rubicon Software proper or improper. (510) 652-2039 -Bucky Fuller
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: cbradley@bozell.com (Chris Bradley) Subject: Re: Word processor for NSI Message-ID: <1993Aug27.194733.2971@bozell.com> Sender: news@bozell.com Organization: Bozell, Jacobs, Kenyon & Eckhardt, Inc. References: <1993Aug26.222608.8218@newsgate.sps.mot.com> Distribution: usa Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1993 19:47:33 GMT In article <1993Aug26.222608.8218@newsgate.sps.mot.com> frank@dendrite.sps.mot.com (Mark Frank) writes: > Does anyone have any word processor recommendations for NSI? I actually > liked WriteNow (it did most things I wanted, and was easy to learn), but > I was told that there are no plans to port it to Intel. Any others out > there? WordPerfect for NEXTSTEP (WordPerfect Corp.) Pages (Pages Software) ExactlyWrite (RightBrain Software) These are some that come to mind right away. -- Chris Bradley | cbradley@bozell.com Techno-Slave, with Many Masters | +1 214 830 2273 vox Bozell, Jacobs, Kenyon & Eckhardt, Inc. | +1 214 830 2687 fax Advertising and Public Relations | "Born ready"
From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore) Newsgroups: comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Re: Deciding Between UNIXWARE And NeXTSTEP? Date: 28 Aug 1993 03:55:42 GMT Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742 Message-ID: <25mkvu$9uv@neomimsy.cs.umd.edu> References: <25di5o$44m@news.mic.ucla.edu> <CCFrnx.6yr@lorax.com> In article <25di5o$44m@news.mic.ucla.edu> ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) writes: > NeXT has a $200/call policy for individuals In article <CCFrnx.6yr@lorax.com> mike@lorax.com (Mike Ferris) writes: > True. NOT TRUE. user and sys admin support is $30 per 15 minutes talking to an engineer. ($120/hour billed in 15 minute increments) developer support is $200 per call (really per problem, may involve multiple calls) there are hotline subscriptions which make sense in a large organization but are out of scope for most individuals. you can even get premium support which includes your own NeXT engineer on call and 12 days with them on site. and for absolutely free, they provide the NeXTAnswers service by email, fax and ftp. so it looks like they have a range of services with plenty of options for both the little guy and the fortune 500 company. what more do you want them to do? -- Alex Blakemore alex@cs.umd.edu NeXT mail accepted -------------------------------------------------------------- "Without an engaged and motivated human being at the keyboard, the computer is just another dumb box." William Raspberry
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: peter@corsica (Peter Eisch) Subject: CD-ROM Disk Problem from a month or so ago... Message-ID: <CCGCu3.Bzq@news2.cis.umn.edu> Sender: news@news2.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: University of Minnesota Hospital and Clinic, Labratory Information Services Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1993 04:29:26 GMT A short time ago some folks experienced problems with their NeXT CD-ROMs where they had to be washed with water on the data side before they were readable. Could someone email me a pointer to the subject lines of that thread or a summary if someone who experienced this problem has a moment or two to spare. vielen danke, muchos grasias, merci, thanks, domo arigato, etc. peter -- The trouble with an impressionist, he looks at a log And he doesn't know who he is, standing, staring at this log... peter@tahiti.umhc.umn.edu (Peter Eisch) peter.a.eisch@uwrf.edu
From: michael@tar.wft.stack.urc.tue.nl (Michael Brouwer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Fat NewsGrazer or other GUI News readers? Date: 28 Aug 1993 01:27:55 GMT Organization: Eindhoven University of Technology Message-ID: <MICHAEL.93Aug28032755@tar.wft.stack.urc.tue.nl> References: <25h0v9$c14@ftp-p.mccaw.com> <25hl7o$26r@steffi.demon.co.uk> In-reply-to: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk's message of 26 Aug 1993 07:29:12 +0100 >>>>> On 26 Aug 1993 07:29:12 +0100, robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) said: Robert> IMHO, Jayson would be very foolish if he or NeXT released a FAT version of NG. Robert> Basically a developer now has indicated that he's writing a product that will Robert> perform this service. Anybody who releases a FAT NG will be stepping on his Robert> toes. I don't think you will see a FAT NG unless it's NG-Pro. Maybe, but I for one think something as basic as a newsreader should, just as NeXTMail, be free. If NewsGrazer Pro is a lot better than plain old NewsGrazer people will buy it. This doesn't mean NeXT can't release a MAB of the current NewsGrazer. Michael
From: mycroft@monolith.utexas.edu (Alex Currier) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: console message Date: 28 Aug 1993 04:42:10 GMT Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas Distribution: world Message-ID: <25mnn2$fnl@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> References: <25l7moINNqb7@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> In article <25l7moINNqb7@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> Darwish writes: > > I keep getting the following message on my console: > > *** HashTable: count differs after rehashing; probably indicates a broken > invariant: there are x and y such as isEqual(x, y) is TRUE but hash(x) != > hash (y) Well, NewsGrazer is the guilty party but I don't know enough about the program to tell you what is happening exactly or why. -- ==================================== Alex Currier mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu Multiple Architecture NeXTSTEP User NeXTmail preferred! ====================================
From: mriggs@lazerus.pencom.com (Michael R Riggs) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: DXF file format filter Keywords: autocad dxf Message-ID: <1993Aug27.184706.12544@pencom.com> Date: 27 Aug 93 18:47:06 GMT Sender: usenet@pencom.com (Usenet Pseudo User) Organization: Pencom Software Anyone know where i can find a DXF to Postscript filter? -- ~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Michael R. Riggs mriggs@pencom.com (Internet) Pencom Software Austin, Tx
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OOBBMS State of play in NeXT marketplace Message-ID: <CCG7zx.2vF@magdalen.dmc.com> From: magdalen!whs (Bill Southworth) Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1993 02:52:44 GMT Sender: whs@magdalen.dmc.com (Bill Southworth) References: <1993Aug26.140815.1547@codex.oz.au> Organization: Harvard Toolworks Inc., 91 Ann Lee Rd, Harvard MA, 508 772-4420 In article <1993Aug26.140815.1547@codex.oz.au> writes: > I would like to know how widely used are Object Oriented Data Base Management Systems in the NeXT marketplace and industry > in general. I understand, Versant is the only OODBMS shipping on NEXTSTEP. Recently I called the sales offices of both ODI and Versant to see if they planned to continue supporting NeXT and if they plan to provide Intel ports. Both claim continued support and neither plans to do an Intel port. As best I can determine, POET is the only OODBMS that currently supports NeXTstep in both the Moto and Intel incarnations. Their Intel version will be shipping by mid-September and is in beta now. We were first turned on to POET by a couple former customers of Versant and ODI that moved to POET for performance reasons. After hearing from these folks of the great technical support and reliability of the product, we decided to give it a try. So far, we're very pleased with our choice. If what you are looking for is a robust, multi-platform C++ persistent object store -- then POET is worth a look. -- Bill Southworth whs@magdalen.dmc.com
Newsgroups: comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) Subject: Re: Deciding Between UNIXWARE And NeXTSTEP? In-Reply-To: peter@nmti.com's message of Fri, 27 Aug 1993 16:19:04 GMT To: peter@nmti.com (peter da silva) Message-ID: <CEDMAN.93Aug27170204@capitalist.princeton.edu> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University References: <westesCC6ELA.77I@netcom.com> <CEDMAN.93Aug22173930@capitalist.princeton.edu> <id.J9321.ALF@nmti.com> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1993 21:02:02 GMT In article <id.J9321.ALF@nmti.com> peter@nmti.com (peter da silva) writes: In article <CEDMAN.93Aug22173930@capitalist.princeton.edu> cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes: > No, all NeXTs run BSD 4.3 which is the standard UNIX architecture. Wow. That's two inoperative statements in one sentence. NeXT's OS is a BSD server running on top of Mach 2.5, and in most real-life terms System V is much more of a standard UNIX architecture than BSD these days. For all that BSD has less historical cruft, it's also gat far less market penetration. Nope. The idea of separate servers sitting "on top of" a distinct mach kernel is at least in mach kernels preceding 3.0 (like all NeXT kernels to date) is just a nice abstraction but not in any way a functional description. If you don't believe me, go grab your BSD sources, the NeXT kernel and a disassembler. You'll find that virtually all the relevant parts were compiled straight from the BSD sources. SCO crowing forever about how many hundreds of thousands of system V derivatives it has sold running on single user unconnected 286 PCs doesn't alter the fact that most UN*X software was written for BSD derived systems. A quick scan of any of the major archives should convince you of that. The underlying O/S is nothing exceptional. Yes. It is just good old solid _standard_ BSD 4.3 with a few Mach extensions. As a matter of fact, this was one of the central reasons why I bought a NeXT once upon a time. Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: matt@drefla.mese.com (Matt Brandt) Subject: NewsGrazer loses my tabstops Message-ID: <1993Aug27.194514.9034@drefla.mese.com> Sender: matt@drefla.mese.com Organization: Applied Engineering Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1993 19:45:14 GMT Newsgrazer seems to have the annoying habit of starting up with all of the tabstops for the text window in column zero! I have tried setting up the ruler and it works as long as the program is still running but when I exit and restart the tabs are back to zero again. This makes some posts pretty ugly (as you can imagine). Is there any way to save the ruler so that NG will use it when it starts up? -- ----------------------------------------------------------- Matt Brandt | A short .sig matt@drefla.mese.com | is a good .sig
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Klaus@ideal.muc.de (Klaus Bscheid) Subject: Re: Non-NeXT CD-ROM titles Message-ID: <1993Aug27.164313.827@ideal.muc.de> Sender: me@ideal.muc.de (Klaus Bscheid) Organization: Eversmile References: <25gjrl$ra2@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1993 16:43:13 GMT In article <25gjrl$ra2@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Joseph W Reiss) writes: > In article <25gaac$6m2@crcnis1.unl.edu> me@ienext.unl.edu (Dan Scott) > writes: > > What I really wonder about is the large number of CD-ROMs that > > are produced for the IBMs and Macs. Are there any problems in > > using such disks? Are there any that you would particularly > > recommend? > > What I'd be interested in finding is an encyclopedia that can be read > using a CD ROM in the NeXT. I'm pretty sure such things are available > on Macs and/or PCs. I'd love to have one for the NeXT. Then I could > have a dictionary, thesaurus, quotation book, and the complete works > of William Shakespeare on my hard drive, as well as the encyclopedia. > My electronic reference set would be complete! > > Thanks! > Joe > -- > __________ | NeXTMail accepted, but not preferred > | |___) | """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" > \_/OE | \EISS | Dammit, Jim. I'm a doctor, not a repository of witty > `---- | remarks. Face it. Wit's dead, Jim. Try to get ToolsBook.app from Tools GmbH - info@Tools.DE and you can read and hear all the ElectronicBook which are out there. Electronic Book are 8cm CDROM/XA. You will get the CDROM/XA Driver with the ToolsBook.app. -- ____________________________________________________________ Klaus Bscheid, klaus@ideal.muc.de, voice/fax: +49 89 3103829 Germany, 85716 Unterschleissheim, Sportplatzstrasse 7
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Klaus@ideal.muc.de (Klaus Bscheid) Subject: Last Version of AppsoftDraw Message-ID: <1993Aug28.132700.674@ideal.muc.de> Keywords: AppsoftDraw Sender: me@ideal.muc.de (Klaus Bscheid) Organization: Eversmile Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1993 13:27:00 GMT Hey there I bought Appsoft Draw V.1.01 one year ago and since that day I'm waiting for an update. I tried to get information from Appsoft via fax but I got no answer. So maybe someone can tell me if there is a newer and better version out there or if he/she knows something about a newer version which is in development. thanks -- ____________________________________________________________ Klaus Bscheid, klaus@ideal.muc.de, voice/fax: +49 89 3103829 Germany, 85716 Unterschleissheim, Sportplatzstrasse 7
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: me@hal (David Wallin) Subject: Re: NewsGrazer with different port. Message-ID: <1993Aug28.184943.26340@kth.se> Sender: usenet@kth.se Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, NADA References: <1993Aug27.203237.6421@kth.se> Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1993 18:49:43 GMT In article <1993Aug27.203237.6421@kth.se> me@hal (David Wallin) writes: > > > Hi Net! > I would like to know if it is possible to change what port NewsGrazer > is using to connect to nntp. Default it is port 119, I want port <1000. I screwed up here read: >1024. I'm also very sorry I posted it 3 times. I blame NewsGrazer. -- David Wallin. (using erics' account) "somehow I imagined this experience d91-elu@nada.kth.se would be more rewarding." -Calvin. BEWARE: This .signature is a beta-version. It still contains some bugs.
Newsgroups: comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer From: larry@gator.oau.org (Larry D Snyder) Subject: Re: Deciding Between UNIXWARE And NeXTSTEP? Message-ID: <CCHJJE.LGq@gator.oau.org> Organization: Gator Communications, Orlando, Florida References: <1993Aug23.131841.2625@taylor.uucp> <Aug23.155109.55345@acs.ucalgary.ca> <CC9wnA.EoJ@gator.oau.org> <id.N9321.HRF@nmti.com> Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1993 19:59:37 GMT peter@nmti.com (peter da silva) writes: >In article <CC9wnA.EoJ@gator.oau.org> larry@gator.oau.org (Larry D Snyder) writes: >> They won't be there. Why should Word Perfect develop an application >> for an operating system that is free? >Why should Word Perfect care whether some random third party made any money >from selling the O/S? Because chances are that if folks run an operating system that is free, they expect applications to be free as well.. -- Larry Snyder Internet: larry@gator.oau.org Orlando, Florida UUCP: ..!uunet!tarpit!gator!larry
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy From: andrew@stone.com (Andrew Stone) Subject: *STONE DESIGN: change of Address* Message-ID: <1993Aug29.001541.16671@stone.com> Keywords: Stone Sender: andrew@stone.com Organization: Stone Design Corp Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1993 00:15:41 GMT Hey Folks, We've grown, and had to move to a bigger facility; please update your dataPhiles and sbooks accordingly: Stone Design 3725 Rio Grande NW Albuquerque, NM 87107-3041 Phone: (505) 345 4800 Fax : (505) 345 3424 Email: Information: info@stone.com File server: file-server@stone.com Bugs: bugs@stone.com me: andrew@stone.com ftp: ftp.cs.unm.edu in pub/stone I apologize for the shotgun posting, just wanted to cover all bases. andrew -- ||<<->>||<<==>>||<<++>>||<<?>>||<<+>>||<<-->>||<<==>>||<<+>>|| !! Andrew Stone !! (505) 345-4800 !! !! andrew@stone.com <> Stone Design Corp !! ||<<->>||<<==>>||<<++>>||<<?>>||<<+>>||<<-->>||<<==>>||<<+>>||
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) Subject: Re: Last Version of AppsoftDraw Message-ID: <1993Aug29.030002.23853@cs.yale.edu> Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News) Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT References: <1993Aug28.132700.674@ideal.muc.de> Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1993 03:00:02 GMT In article <1993Aug28.132700.674@ideal.muc.de> Klaus@ideal.muc.de (Klaus Bscheid) writes: > I bought Appsoft Draw V.1.01 one year ago and since that day > I'm waiting for an update. I tried to get information from Appsoft > via fax but I got no answer. V.1.2 is the last stable version. Randy Adams briefly released V.1.3, which was much faster, but had the rather annoying problem of corrupting any previously created and saved Draw files, so it was withdrawn. He and Media Logic continue to point fingers at each other while more and more Draw customers give up and move to other Apps where there's at least a chance of support. Good luck getting anything out of Appsoft. -- Nathan "USENET" Janette PPP link from hilbert.csb.yale.edu Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
From: shin@esug.co.jp (Sugou Shinichirou) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Has anyone else looked at Databag on cs.orst.edu Message-ID: <SHIN.93Aug29154513@sgtp.esug.co.jp> Date: 29 Aug 93 06:45:13 GMT References: <250m26$3lb@digifix.digifix.com> <jeffo.745794594@uiuc.edu> <SHIN.93Aug24222110@sgtp.esug.co.jp> Sender: shin@sgtp.esug.co.jp Organization: SG Total Planning, Japan In-reply-to: shin@esug.co.jp's message of 24 Aug 93 22:21:10 JST I am the creater of DataBag. I've gotten many suggestions by e-mail and by news article. Thank you. I considered carefully for these days about my future (and my company's future and DataBag's future). I came to the reluctant conclusion that I will not change my course, that is, I stop to delivey DataBag. But please don't misunderstand. The reason why I stop have NO relation to the past progress at all. I consulted my closed friends and they said that I am not suited for business. This is the reason. Please let me repeat once more. NOTHING upon c.s.n.software have influenced my final decision. So, don't blame anyone. By the way, I decided to treat DataBag as temporary (see the next paragraph about the meaning of 'temporary') free software. That is, if you install and actually try DataBag, and then if you think it is actually useful for you, and then if you think that the demo version's limitation is serious problem for you, please ask me for your registration key by e-mail. I send it with no charge. Unless all the conditions above is met, please don't ask me it. To calculate your registration key, I need your login name. Please read Info/ContactUs menu for more information. Here is the explanation about 'temprary'. There are already a few registered users in Japan. Before I reached this final decision, I offered them two choises: (1) I return the money back. You (the registered user) discard the right of the future support/new-version. (2) You (the registered user) don't request money back. You continue to have the right of the support/new-version. But, support will not be so quick as it was. It may take a VERY long time until a new version is completed. When the worst comes to the worst, no new version will be completed. They have choosen (2). So, I have to make a distinction between them and you because they had paid money. Even if you get the registration key, no new version is provided. Even if you have any question about DataBag, I MAY not answer it. I am sorry, but I have to do it. If you want more information about DataBag, please read the article "DataBag. What is it?" which I posted recently to this news group, c.s.n.software. Thank you. -- Shin'ichirou Sugou (NeXTmail acceptable)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: john@wpa.com (John Bartley) Subject: Re: console message Message-ID: <1993Aug29.051902.1257@nimno.wpa.com> Sender: john@nimno.wpa.com Organization: Workgroup Productivity Associates References: <25mnn2$fnl@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1993 05:19:02 GMT In article <25mnn2$fnl@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> mycroft@monolith.utexas.edu (Alex Currier) writes: > In article <25l7moINNqb7@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> Darwish writes: > > > > I keep getting the following message on my console: > > > > *** HashTable: count differs after rehashing; probably indicates a broken > > invariant: there are x and y such as isEqual(x, y) is TRUE but hash(x) != > > hash (y) > > Well, NewsGrazer is the guilty party but I don't know enough about the program > to tell you what is happening exactly or why. Whoa! Lot's of things can cause this little gem to erupt - I don't know why you're blaming NewsGrazer! I've seen this pop up when rebooting. I've had it occur when using DataPhile and Digital Librarian. I don't think it is fair to bash NewsGrazer for this.
Newsgroups: comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer From: mark@taylor.uucp (Mark A. Davis) Subject: Re: Deciding Between UNIXWARE And NeXTSTEP? Organization: Lake Taylor Hospital Computer Services Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1993 18:57:59 GMT Message-ID: <1993Aug29.185759.22001@taylor.uucp> References: <westesCC6ELA.77I@netcom.com> <CEDMAN.93Aug22173930@capitalist.princeton.edu> <id.J9321.ALF@nmti.com> <CEDMAN.93Aug27170204@capitalist.princeton.edu> cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes: >SCO crowing forever about how many hundreds of thousands of system V >derivatives it has sold running on single user unconnected 286 PCs >doesn't alter the fact that most UN*X software was written for BSD >derived systems. A quick scan of any of the major archives should >convince you of that. Good God are you on another planet. I think you need to include commercial software in your considerations, or at least specify which base of software your are "counting". There is a very big world out there which has nothing to do with internet archives. -- /--------------------------------------------------------------------------\ | Mark A. Davis | Lake Taylor Hospital | Norfolk, VA (804)-461-5001x431 | | Sys.Administrator| Computer Services | mark@taylor.wyvern.com .uucp | \--------------------------------------------------------------------------/
Newsgroups: comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer From: mark@taylor.uucp (Mark A. Davis) Subject: Re: Deciding Between UNIXWARE And NeXTSTEP? Organization: Lake Taylor Hospital Computer Services Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1993 18:59:40 GMT Message-ID: <1993Aug29.185940.22082@taylor.uucp> References: <1993Aug23.131841.2625@taylor.uucp> <Aug23.155109.55345@acs.ucalgary.ca> <CC9wnA.EoJ@gator.oau.org> <id.N9321.HRF@nmti.com> <CCHJJE.LGq@gator.oau.org> larry@gator.oau.org (Larry D Snyder) writes: >peter@nmti.com (peter da silva) writes: >>In article <CC9wnA.EoJ@gator.oau.org> larry@gator.oau.org (Larry D Snyder) writes: >>> They won't be there. Why should Word Perfect develop an application >>> for an operating system that is free? >>Why should Word Perfect care whether some random third party made any money >>from selling the O/S? >Because chances are that if folks run an operating system that is free, >they expect applications to be free as well.. So I guess nobody pays for MS-"DOS" or MS-"Windows" applications because they are essentially "free" (bundled with most systems). -- /--------------------------------------------------------------------------\ | Mark A. Davis | Lake Taylor Hospital | Norfolk, VA (804)-461-5001x431 | | Sys.Administrator| Computer Services | mark@taylor.wyvern.com .uucp | \--------------------------------------------------------------------------/
From: michael@denwa.info.com (Michael Gersten) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP is a memory HOG! Date: 29 Aug 1993 12:49:47 -0700 Organization: Info Connections, West Los Angeles Message-ID: <25r18r$ar8@denwa.info.com> References: <Aug15.073135.23769@acs.ucalgary.ca> <25hf6t$qnj@denwa.info.com> <Aug26.174409.41065@acs.ucalgary.ca> Keywords: NESTSTEP MEMORY HOG DISK SPACE I wrote: >> I have 278 pages wired; that's high. That's nearly reboot time, >> ... >> about 150 or so after starting workspace and a bunch of apps. >> It climbs slowly from there.) In article <Aug26.174409.41065@acs.ucalgary.ca> bstone@acs.ucalgary.ca (Blake Stone) writes: >Before anybody starts checking their "wired page" count and >flipping out, this isn't my experience at all. > >Pages wired down: 328. > >Is what I get just after rebooting and opening a terminal. Of > ... > >Unloading this stuff won't occur normally, it just isn't loaded >at startup time for efficiency's sake, but they stay around after >dynamically loading unless you explicitly get rid of them. > >I am aware of NO wired memory leaks that force you to reboot your >system occasionally (other memory leaks are another matter :-) ). >Wired memory will go up as more servers are loaded but will reach >an equilibrium and stop. All you're doing by rebooting is *NOT* true. I don't have to start any more applications, or load any more kernel servers, or anything, and I still climb. Today, for example, I'm up to 291 pages; that's 13 more than the last time. It does go up as I launch apps, but I have never seen it go down by any appriciable amount -- even logging out, exiting the window server, and going into the raw console doesn't lower it by more than about 20 pages, max. (usually less under 2.1, I haven't checked it under 3.x yet). On the other hand, after doing that, and restarting the window server, no more memory is wired. So this implies three things: 1. The kernel wires memory for its use, 2. It does not release it back to the general pool afterwards in all cases, 3. It does keep track of it for it's own re-use. Either that, or there's a lot more kernel utilities than just (34) % kl_util -s SERVER: slip Loaded SERVER: audio Loaded By rebooting, I am doing two things: 1. Forcing these servers/memory use to be re-allocated. This does slow things down a little. 2. Freeing an extra meg of memory for my applications. This has a big affect on the speed of services, and Improv's Presentation Builder (which is inherently a two application deal, and so, slow on an 8 meg machine. Yes, just changing an active app does paging, but under normal circumstances, thats all the paging I do on my machine. 8 megs does work on 680x0.) I don't know where the leak is. I do know that it is there. Here's an idea: why don't some other people start taking measurements of their wired down amounts, and see what it does over time. -- Michael Gersten michael@stb.info.com NeXT Registered Developer (NeRD) # 3860 -- Hire me! (Ready around 10/93) Standing for a government of Integrity and No Special Cases; running for President on this platform in 2000. Contacts, volunteers, helpers needed.
From: mycroft@monolith.utexas.edu (Alex Currier) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: console message Date: 29 Aug 1993 21:25:52 GMT Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas Message-ID: <25r6t0$c8d@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> In a previous message of unknown number john@wpa.com (John Bartley) points out... >In article <25mnn2$fnl@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> mycroft@monolith.utexas.edu >(Alex Currier) writes: > >> In article <25l7moINNqb7@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> Darwish writes: >>> >>> I keep getting the following message on my console: >>> >>> *** HashTable: count differs after rehashing; probably indicates a broken >>> invariant: there are x and y such as isEqual(x, y) is TRUE but hash(x) != >>> hash (y) >> >> Well, NewsGrazer is the guilty party but I don't know enough about the >> program to tell you what is happening exactly or why. > > Whoa! Lot's of things can cause this little gem to erupt - I don't know > why you're blaming NewsGrazer! I've seen this pop up when rebooting. I've > had it occur when using DataPhile and Digital Librarian. I don't think it > is fair to bash NewsGrazer for this. Okay. I take it back. My reason for blaming NewsGrazer is that I have only noticed this message after using NewsGrazer and so I made a guess and called it a fact. So I checked up on myself and discovered the same error message occured immediately after decompressing a .tar archive using the workspace content inspector and then deleting the .tar archive using the workspace file/delete menu option. I did it so quickly I don't know which action actually caused the error. While I may have been wrong in blaming NewsGrazer I may also not have been completely wrong, if such an error can occur in DataPhile and in DL and gnutar it could conceivably occur while using NewsGrazer. I was hasty to blame NG for the error but I didn't intend to bash it. I do wonder why you are so quick to defend it though... -- ==================================== Alex Currier mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu Multiple Architecture NeXTSTEP User NeXTmail preferred! ====================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: lloyd@world.std.com (Chris Lloyd) Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP is a memory HOG! Message-ID: <CCJMHC.JCq@world.std.com> Keywords: NESTSTEP MEMORY HOG DISK SPACE Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA References: <25hf6t$qnj@denwa.info.com> <Aug26.174409.41065@acs.ucalgary.ca> <25r18r$ar8@denwa.info.com> Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1993 22:58:23 GMT In article <25r18r$ar8@denwa.info.com> michael@denwa.info.com (Michael Gersten) writes: In article <Aug26.174409.41065@acs.ucalgary.ca> bstone@acs.ucalgary.ca (Blake St one) writes: >>I am aware of NO wired memory leaks that force you to reboot your >*NOT* true. I don't have to start any more applications, or load any more >kernel servers, or anything, and I still climb. There is nothing special about applications or kernel servers, any process may cause more wired memory to be allocated. Run this: main() { int i,p; for(i=0;i<5000;i++) port_allocate(task_self(),&p); } Be sure to vm_stat before, vm_stat after. Rerun repeatedly, and vm_stat after those. Port's are kernel objects which can consume wired memory, same with tasks, threads, files, etc etc. blah blah. >1. The kernel wires memory for its use, >2. It does not release it back to the general pool afterwards in all cases, >3. It does keep track of it for it's own re-use. This is exactly what's happening, whether it is a good algorithm is an entirely different subject - although I'm quite sure the NeXT kernel people know what they are doing... >I don't know where the leak is. I do know that it is there. See above, this not a leak. Your extrapolation of vm_stat information to a serious kernel programming error that reflects badly on NeXT is a little hasty and uninformed. For all you know, it could have been a bug in vm_stat.... shrug, -- :: Christopher Lloyd :: Yrrid Incorporated :: lloyd@world.std.com :: :: NEXTSTEP Monk ::
Newsgroups: comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer From: duane@shell.portal.com (Duane Takamine) Subject: Re: Deciding Between UNIXWARE And NeXTSTEP? Message-ID: <CCJoC4.M7q@unix.portal.com> Sender: news@unix.portal.com Organization: Portal Communications Company -- 408/973-9111 (voice) 408/973-8091 (data) References: <id.N9321.HRF@nmti.com> <CCHJJE.LGq@gator.oau.org> <1993Aug29.185940.22082@taylor.uucp> Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1993 23:38:25 GMT In article <1993Aug29.185940.22082@taylor.uucp> mark@taylor.uucp (Mark A. Davis) writes: >larry@gator.oau.org (Larry D Snyder) writes: > >>peter@nmti.com (peter da silva) writes: > >>>In article <CC9wnA.EoJ@gator.oau.org> larry@gator.oau.org (Larry D Snyder) writes: >>>> They won't be there. Why should Word Perfect develop an application >>>> for an operating system that is free? > >>>Why should Word Perfect care whether some random third party made any money >>>from selling the O/S? > >>Because chances are that if folks run an operating system that is free, >>they expect applications to be free as well.. > >So I guess nobody pays for MS-"DOS" or MS-"Windows" applications because they >are essentially "free" (bundled with most systems). People buy software. They just complain if it costs more than $99 these days. And lots and lots of people just steal the software, since they don't want to pay for anything. Duane -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Duane Takamine duane@shell.portal.com Island CD Creations Madd Hacker Productions Home of the Sound Site CDROM - nearly 1400 mods on disc
From: howie@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Howie Kaye) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.dcom.fax,alt.fax Subject: USRobotics Sportster 14,400 FAX on a NeXT Date: 30 Aug 1993 00:48:00 GMT Organization: Columbia University Message-ID: <25rio0$604@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> Has anyone gotten a Sportster to work in fax mode on a Next? The only supported modems that come with the system are class 2. ------------------------------------------------------------ Howie Kaye howie@columbia.edu Columbia University hlkcu@cuvma.bitnet UNIX Systems Group ...!rutgers!columbia!howie
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Source code for new version of Alphalock available Date: 30 Aug 1993 02:46:24 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <25rpm0$gq7@usenet.rpi.edu> NeXTSTEP on NeXT hardware comes with a shift-lock function which is activated by pressing "command-shift" (and nothing else) on the keyboard. I hate shift-lock. I haven't wanted to use shift-lock since I stopped programming fortran in the late 70's. So every time I trigger this shift-lock behavior (by accident), it really aggravates me. Some time ago, Felix Lugo wrote a little program which patches the running kernal to disable this brain-dead feature from ancient computer history. His version only worked on NS-2.1. I have improved the program so it can patch NS-2.2, NS-3.0/NS-3.0J, and NS-3.1. I've also improved it to be a little more careful about patching. I also added explicit "enable" and "disable" parameters to it (the program Felix wrote just toggled the setting). With a little bit of thought and a loginhook, someone could probably turn this shift-lock behavior into a user-setable preference. In my case, for my machines, I just turn the feature off when the machine boots up. The source code for this program is in the file alphalock.c which is available from eclipse.its.rpi.edu in directory /NeXT/sources. Note that I only distribute the source. This program must be run as root (you'll have to setuid it after you get it), and it's going to be patching your kernel on the fly. You shouldn't be picking up any object code off the net and just blindly trusting it in that kinda situation (not even if it's from me...). So, I only provide the source code so you can compile it and know what you're getting. This source code only makes sense on NeXT hardware, I have no idea what you'd do on NS/Intel systems. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) Subject: Re: 3.2 - when? Message-ID: <1993Aug30.031835.22156@csus.edu> Sender: news@csus.edu Organization: San Francisco State University References: <25933t$aui@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> <1993Aug26.041530.1277@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> <25jhvlINN7ld@gap.caltech.edu> Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1993 03:18:35 GMT In article <25jhvlINN7ld@gap.caltech.edu> madler@cco.caltech.edu (Mark Adler) writes: >Hopefully, they are just adding bug fixes. Adding features is the same >as adding more bugs, and could easily cancel the effect of the bug fixes. NeXT will always be adding new features. Customers and third party developers demand it. Bugs come with the territory. Unfortunately, NeXT doesn't have a beta test program (prereleases are for "seeding" selected developers, not used as a QA mechanism), so major bugs don't get squashed until it's too late. It's easy to criticize from the sidelines. There's still hope. -=EPS=-
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Version 2.9 of MailCall now available Date: 30 Aug 1993 03:31:55 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <25rsbb$ir4@usenet.rpi.edu> In January of 1992, Dennis Smyers wrote a useful little utility called MailCall. It checks the mail spool file for your userid, and if you have any incoming mail it beeps at you (with a user-settable beep sound) and displays the subject in a little text window. He made the program available to everyone, but asked that you send him some $$$ if you were interested in seeing the source code. That was version 2.1 of MailCall. I was interested, so I sent the money in. I've fixed various bugs along the way, and added an option or two. One of the bugs I fixed becomes much more significant if you are running NS-3.1, as Mail.app now deletes the mail spool file after it picks up the new mail. MailCall version 2.1 would react to that (no spool file) by simply quitting. There were other situations where MailCall would go into some kind of infinite loop. I have a new version of MailCall available now, which is compiled on NS-2.1 system and which should work on all releases after that. I'm calling it version 2.9, since any future versions of MailCall will probably require the person be running NS-3.0 or better. I'm releasing this binary now because I'll soon be upgrading my last NS-2.1 system to NS-3.0 or NS-3.1. The file is available via anonymous FTP from host eclipse.its.rpi.edu, in directory /NeXT/MailCall2.9.tar.Z. This is only the binary, as I haven't heard back from Dennis as to what he thinks would be fair WRT distributing the source code. If you're wondering why this is useful, I'll tell you want I do with it. I set my mail preferences so "New Mail Retrieval" is set to "Manual". Thus it doesn't pick up the mail from my spool file until I explicitly tell it to (with the menu item, or by clicking on the button). I then leave MailCall running. Besides writing the mail-header information into a little window, it also writes it to a file in /tmp space. If I'm away from my office, I can telnet into my machine and see what new mail has arrived by just copying out that file in /tmp. MailCall includes a little flag to indicate which messages are NeXTmail, so I'll know which ones there is no point in me trying to read via telnet. If there's a non-NeXTmail message which looks critical, I then read it using ucb mail. I always "x" out of it (instead of "q"-uiting) so all the messages remain in the spool file for when I get back to my office. This works out well for me. Your own mileage may vary. This would also let you have something checking for mail all the time, without having the entire mail application up and running. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: wave@pixar.com (Michael B. Johnson) Subject: Re: Fat NewsGrazer or other GUI News readers? Message-ID: <1993Aug30.001940.20605@pixar.com> Sender: news@pixar.com (Usenet Newsmaster) Organization: Pixar -- Point Richmond, California References: <MICHAEL.93Aug28032755@tar.wft.stack.urc.tue.nl> Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1993 00:19:40 GMT In article <MICHAEL.93Aug28032755@tar.wft.stack.urc.tue.nl> michael@tar.wft.stack.urc.tue.nl (Michael Brouwer) writes: > >>>>> On 26 Aug 1993 07:29:12 +0100, robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) said: > > Robert> IMHO, Jayson would be very foolish if he or NeXT released a FAT version of NG. > Robert> Basically a developer now has indicated that he's writing a product that will > Robert> perform this service. Anybody who releases a FAT NG will be stepping on his > Robert> toes. I don't think you will see a FAT NG unless it's NG-Pro. > > Maybe, but I for one think something as basic as a newsreader should, just > as NeXTMail, be free. If NewsGrazer Pro is a lot better than plain old > NewsGrazer people will buy it. This doesn't mean NeXT can't release a MAB > of the current NewsGrazer. > God - and people wonder where the 3rd party developers for NeXTSTEP are dropping like flies. sigh. -- --> Michael B. Johnson -- wave@media.mit.edu, wave@pixar.com --> MIT Media Lab -- Computer Graphics & Animation Group --> P*I*X*A*R -- IceMan Group (for the summer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: john@wpa.com (John Bartley) Subject: Re: console message Message-ID: <1993Aug30.031844.6385@nimno.wpa.com> Sender: john@nimno.wpa.com Organization: Workgroup Productivity Associates References: <25r6t0$c8d@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1993 03:18:44 GMT In article <25r6t0$c8d@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> mycroft@monolith.utexas.edu (Alex Currier) writes: > In a previous message of unknown number john@wpa.com (John Bartley) points > out... > > >In article <25mnn2$fnl@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> mycroft@monolith.utexas.edu > >(Alex Currier) writes: > > > >> In article <25l7moINNqb7@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> Darwish writes: > >>> > >>> I keep getting the following message on my console: > >>> > >>> *** HashTable: count differs after rehashing; probably indicates a broken > >>> invariant: there are x and y such as isEqual(x, y) is TRUE but hash(x) != > >>> hash (y) > >> > >> Well, NewsGrazer is the guilty party but I don't know enough about the > >> program to tell you what is happening exactly or why. > > > > Whoa! Lot's of things can cause this little gem to erupt - I don't know > > why you're blaming NewsGrazer! I've seen this pop up when rebooting. I've > > had it occur when using DataPhile and Digital Librarian. I don't think it > > is fair to bash NewsGrazer for this. > > Okay. I take it back. My reason for blaming NewsGrazer is that I have only > noticed this message after using NewsGrazer and so I made a guess and called > it a fact. So I checked up on myself and discovered the same error message > occured immediately after decompressing a .tar archive using the workspace > content inspector and then deleting the .tar archive using the workspace > file/delete menu option. I did it so quickly I don't know which action > actually caused the error. While I may have been wrong in blaming NewsGrazer I > may also not have been completely wrong, if such an error can occur in > DataPhile and in DL and gnutar it could conceivably occur while using > NewsGrazer. I was hasty to blame NG for the error but I didn't intend to bash > it. I do wonder why you are so quick to defend it though... Fair play, I suppose. You seemed to have picked NewsGrazer out of thin air to beat up on. The original post didn't even mention using NG. The fact that an error can occur during use of an app hardly means that it is to blame. I'm not a programmer, but it seems to me that if all sorts of apps and utilities cause this to happen, it would logically have to be a system level error of some sort that various apps can fall victim to. I don't understand why you object to my quickness in "defending" NG - from my perspective I was merely pointing out what I believed to be a gross inaccuracy in your assessment of the situation. ===================================== John Bartley john@wpa.com Multiple Architecture NEXTSTEP User Fast cars; fast computers; fast food! =====================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) Subject: Another NewsGrazer assassin Message-ID: <1993Aug30.044618.25613@csus.edu> Sender: news@csus.edu Organization: San Francisco State University Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1993 04:46:18 GMT There's a killer news article on the loose. :-) NG dies with a SIGSEGV when it tries to digest this. -=EPS=- ------- HEAD <1993Aug25.043751.8440@xenitec.on.ca> Newsgroups: biz.config,biz.sco.general,biz.sco.opendesktop From: edhew@xenitec.on.ca (Ed Hew) Subject: proposal to create biz.sco.wserver Organization: XeniTec Consulting, Kitchener, Ontario, CANADA Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1993 04:37:51 GMT Message-ID: <1993Aug25.043751.8440@xenitec.on.ca> Followup-To: biz.config,biz.sco.general Keywords: biz, create, newsgroups, wserver, TCL, SCO Motif widget server Proposal for the Creation of biz.sco.wserver -------------------------------------------- With the pre-release of an experimental version of the SCO widget server, biz.sco.wserver will serve as a newsgroup welcoming questions and discussion of technical topics specific to the SCO widget server. Wserver consists of a TCL shell with OSF/Motif(TM) extensions which communicates with a server that creates Motif widgets on an X server display. In some aspects it is similar to the Windowing Korn Shell, except that it is based on TCL instead of ksh, real Motif, and a client/server model. A more complete description of wserver is appended. I'm advised that SCO intends to participate in biz.sco.wserver discussions and that the widget server will be otherwise unsupported until it's final release. biz.sco.wserver will be bi-directionally gated to a mailing list, similar to those implemented for other biz.sco.* newsgroups, and will be archived at ftp.xenitec.on.ca along with the rest of biz.sco.*. Barring any strenuous objections, I will create biz.sco.wserver at the beginning of September. The interval is intended to allow for commentary and discussion of this proposal. ----- NAME: biz.sco.wserver CHARTER: biz.sco.wserver provides an un-moderated newsgroup to facilitate questions, answers and discussion of the SCO widget server. Lines: 53
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mross@netcom.com (Antigone Press) Subject: Re: Last Version of AppsoftDraw Message-ID: <mrossCCK2uG.2wH@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) References: <1993Aug28.132700.674@ideal.muc.de> Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1993 04:51:51 GMT Klaus Bscheid (Klaus@ideal.muc.de) wrote: : Hey there : I bought Appsoft Draw V.1.01 one year ago and since that day I'm waiting for : an update. I tried to get information from Appsoft via fax but I got no : answer. : So maybe someone can tell me if there is a newer and better version out there : or if he/she knows something about a newer version which is in development. : thanks : -- : ____________________________________________________________ : Klaus Bscheid, klaus@ideal.muc.de, voice/fax: +49 89 3103829 : Germany, 85716 Unterschleissheim, Sportplatzstrasse 7 -- -------------- Michael Ross mross@antigone.com (preferred) Antigone Press mross@netcom.com San Francisco CA FAX +1.415.431.3650
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: c_avery@rsgreet.andi.org (Christopher Avery) Subject: Xbase for NeXT (Chris Avery) Message-ID: <CCJK5x.FEC@nextsrv1.andi.org> Keywords: Lexx Yacc Xbase Sender: usenet@nextsrv1.andi.org (usenet) Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1993 22:08:20 GMT Has anyone created a Lex and Yacc file for the Xbase Language? -- Christopher Avery reply to:cavery@nextsrv1.andi.org (NeXTMail accepted)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: c_avery@rsgreet.andi.org (Christopher Avery) Subject: Xbase for NeXT? (Chris Avery) Message-ID: <CCJKA9.FFM@nextsrv1.andi.org> Keywords: Lex Yacc Xbase Sender: usenet@nextsrv1.andi.org (usenet) Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1993 22:10:57 GMT Has anyone developed a Lex and Yacc file for the Xbase Language? -- Christopher Avery reply to:cavery@nextsrv1.andi.org (NeXTMail accepted)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: pasqua@adobe.com Subject: Re: Source code for new version of Alphalock available Message-ID: <1993Aug30.170252.14288@adobe.com> Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS) Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated References: <25rpm0$gq7@usenet.rpi.edu> Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1993 17:02:52 GMT In article <25rpm0$gq7@usenet.rpi.edu> gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) writes: > NeXTSTEP on NeXT hardware comes with a shift-lock function which > is activated by pressing "command-shift" (and nothing else) on the > keyboard. > > I hate shift-lock. I haven't wanted to use shift-lock since I > stopped programming fortran in the late 70's. So every time I > trigger this shift-lock behavior (by accident), it really > aggravates me. > > [stuff deleted] > > This source code only makes sense on NeXT hardware, I have no idea > what you'd do on NS/Intel systems. On NS/Intel systems this is unneccesary. If you use USA.keymapping, then the CAPS LOCK key toggles the caps lock state and Cmd-Shift doesn't. If you use NextUSA.keymapping, then you get the Cmd-Shift behavoir. In general, if you have a keymapping that does not have any key assigned to be a CAPS LOCK key, then you get the Cmd-Shift behavior. If you do have a key assigned to CAPS LOCK, then you don't get it. Joe Pasqua
From: giddings@sadie.chem.wisc.edu (Michael Giddings) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Why is Canon trying to kill NeXT in Chinese market ? (Was Re: What's the solution for chinese system on NEXTSTEP Date: 30 Aug 1993 19:11:14 GMT Organization: Division of Information Technology Distribution: world Message-ID: <25tjci$qh0@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <1993Aug30.180932.17552@adobe.com> Keywords: software piracy academia In article <1993Aug30.180932.17552@adobe.com> Scott Byer <byer@mv.us.adobe.com> writes: > >The copying will happen to *much* different degrees. In the >university setting with which I presume you are familiar (you can >correct me if I'm wrong), copying software is done in great >disproportion to the rest of this country. > -- I've seen this stated by several people, but never backed up with facts or statistics. Is there anything more than anecdotal evidence on this? I've certainly seen a lot of copying go on in AND outside of the university. Maybe businesses themselves are concerned and somewhat avoid piracy (though there have been a number of cases where even large businesses have been caught doing large amounts of piracy), but I would be willing to bet that most of their employees are just as likely as anyone else to take home a copy or two of their favorite program . . I'm tired of seeing off-handed remarks bashing academia. Academia is not responsible for all the world's ills. Michael Giddings UW Madison Chemistry
From: woolf@colossus.isi.edu (Suzanne Woolf) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Pascal compiler for black hardware? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software Date: 30 Aug 1993 11:20:57 -0700 Organization: USC Information Sciences Institute Distribution: na Message-ID: <25tgea$4k2@colossus.isi.edu> Keywords: compiler, pascal, education I'm looking for a Pascal compiler for an educational installation (high school) of 8 NeXTstations. (We may eventually also want it for NS/FIP.) We need plain old standard Pascal, although some interface with C/ObjC would be nice. Cheap edu licensing would also be a big plus. I suspect this may have come up some time ago, so please just mail to me if you know of such a thing. I'll share answers with anyone else who's interested. thanks, Suzanne woolf@isi.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: glen@instep.wimsey.bc.ca Subject: Re: console message Message-ID: <1993Aug30.165038.1244@instep.wimsey.bc.ca> Sender: glen@instep.wimsey.bc.ca Organization: InStep Mobile Communications Inc. References: <25mnn2$fnl@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1993 16:50:38 GMT In article <25mnn2$fnl@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> mycroft@monolith.utexas.edu (Alex Currier) writes: > In article <25l7moINNqb7@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> Darwish writes: > > > > I keep getting the following message on my console: > > > > *** HashTable: count differs after rehashing; probably indicates a broken > > invariant: there are x and y such as isEqual(x, y) is TRUE but hash(x) != > > hash (y) > > Well, NewsGrazer is the guilty party but I don't know enough about the program > to tell you what is happening exactly or why. > > > > > Actually, lots of programs are guilty; including several that I have written. I think the problem, if indeed it is a problem, is with hash tables or the appkit. > ==================================== > Alex Currier > mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu > Multiple Architecture NeXTSTEP User > NeXTmail preferred! > ==================================== -- Glen Biagioni Software Developer glen@instep.wimsey.bc.ca (small NeXTmail accepted) 604 872-7116 604 872-7125 fax
From: Tim Pugh <tpugh@oce.orst.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: I WANT BLACK SOFTWARE !!! Date: 30 Aug 1993 21:42:57 GMT Organization: University Computing Services - Oregon State University Message-ID: <25ts92$rkt@gaia.ucs.orst.edu> References: <1993Aug25.175519.8471@netcom.com> In article <1993Aug25.175519.8471@netcom.com> gordie@cyclesoft.com (Gordie Freedman) writes: > In article <1993Aug24.151242.23379@tkymail.sps.mot.com> > mshaler@tdocad.sps.mot.com (Michael Shaler) writes: > > > > Alternatively, build your own terminal using the > > Subprocess[hm] class and follow the directions given in > > /NextLibrary/Documentation/NextDev/DevTools/17_TextApp/TextApp.rtfd. > > > > IB allows this and much much more... > > > > --- > > I couldn't find any info on the Subprocess class in DL, but it sounds > familiar... What am I missing? > -- Look in /NextDeveloper/Examples/UNIX/Subprocess. Subprocess is an example class in NeXT's Developer Example programs. --- Tim Pugh College of Oceanic and Atmospheric Sciences Oregon State University tpugh@oce.orst.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Neil Greene <neil@kynug.org> Subject: Re: Word processor for NSI Message-ID: <1993Aug30.142144.4410@KYnug.org> Sender: neil@KYnug.org (Neil Greene) Organization: Kentucky NEXTSTEP User Group, Inc. References: <1993Aug27.194733.2971@bozell.com> Distribution: usa Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1993 14:21:44 GMT In article <1993Aug27.194733.2971@bozell.com> cbradley@bozell.com (Chris Bradley) writes: > In article <1993Aug26.222608.8218@newsgate.sps.mot.com> > frank@dendrite.sps.mot.com (Mark Frank) writes: > > Does anyone have any word processor recommendations for NSI? I actually > > liked WriteNow (it did most things I wanted, and was easy to learn), but > > I was told that there are no plans to port it to Intel. Any others out > > there? > > WordPerfect for NEXTSTEP (WordPerfect Corp.) > Pages (Pages Software) > ExactlyWrite (RightBrain Software) Geez! It is said as hell to think that this platform doesn't even have a decent word processor. -- Neil Greene President, benchMark Developments, Inc. [NeXT VAR] President, Kentucky NeXT User Group, Inc. North American, TIFFany Distributor
Newsgroups: comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer From: bad@flatlin.ka.sub.org (Christoph Badura) Subject: Re: Deciding Between UNIXWARE And NeXTSTEP? Organization: Guru Systems/Funware Department Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1993 23:58:40 GMT Message-ID: <CCLJxt.M4K@flatlin.ka.sub.org> References: <westesCC6ELA.77I@netcom.com> <CEDMAN.93Aug22173930@capitalist.princeton.edu> <id.J9321.ALF@nmti.com> In <id.J9321.ALF@nmti.com> peter@nmti.com (peter da silva) writes: >In article <CEDMAN.93Aug22173930@capitalist.princeton.edu> cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes: >> No, all NeXTs run BSD 4.3 which is the standard UNIX architecture. >Wow. That's two inoperative statements in one sentence. And it wrong because some NeXTs run Plan 9. :-) -- Christoph Badura --- bad@flatlin.ka.sub.org --- +49 721 606137 Personally, I don't care whether someone is cool enough to quote Doug Gwyn--I only care whether Doug Gwyn is cool enough to quote. -- Larry Wall
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Allegro Common Lisp 3.1.20 and NeXTStep 3.1 Message-ID: <1993Aug30.203117.9671@msuvx2> From: slusse@next1.msci.memst.edu (Ellen L Sluss) Date: 30 Aug 93 20:31:16 -0600 Organization: Memphis State University, Memphis TN Thanks to everyone who replied about my problem of getting ACL 3.1.20 to work on my NeXTStep 3.1. I have been testing it and noticed a couple of problems that I would like to ask the group about. I built it with the 3.0 libraries libsys_p.a and libNeXT_p.a and set USYM= . I got into emacs and had it evaluate the following: (describe 'cons) (describe 'append) and I got these messages: Allegro CL 3.1.20 [NeXT] (3/7/91) Copyright (C) 1985-1990, Franz Inc., Berkeley, CA, USA <cl> ;Starting socket daemon ; Fast loading /usr/cl/lib/code/ipc.fasl. ; Fast loading /usr/cl/lib/code/process.fasl. ; Fast loading /usr/cl/lib/code/foreign.fasl. Warning: No address found for foreign function rld_unload ; Fast loading /usr/cl/lib/code/defctype.fasl. ; Loading TCP routines from C library...Error: :unrference-lib-names is unsupported on NeXT ACL [changing package from "user" to "ipc"] [1] <cl> Evaluating it a second time at this point proved successful. How do I fix this? I also tried to load the Objective-C example Calculator.cl in /usr/cl/examples/objc and it failed. Someone warned me that the objective C part was no longer working. Is there a fix for it? -- Ellen Sluss e-sluss@memst.edu Dept of Math Sciences, Memphis State University, Memphis, TN 38152
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Slip/Kermit for NS-intel Date: 29 Aug 1993 13:12:52 -0000 Organization: Palumbian Research Labs Message-ID: <25qa0k$81@marsu.tynet.sub.org> References: <1993Aug9.220856.11638@pslu1.psl.wisc.edu> <1993Aug16.221001.5479@pslu1.psl.wisc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit haker@whitewater.chem.wisc.edu (M Haker) writes: >So it seems the serial driver isn't completely broken. Believe me, it _is_ broken. One day you'll find out yourself, I'm absolutely sure. Regards, Markus. -- /dev Markus Wenzel, University of Stuttgart /usr/spool/mail mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org ~/.ircrc/nick Marsu /etc/motd NeXTSTEP for Cray computers? Where? When?? How???
From: besler@gdss.commerce.ubc.ca (Steven Besler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: console message Date: 31 Aug 1993 03:10:35 GMT Organization: The University of British Columbia Distribution: world Message-ID: <25uffb$k6r@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca> References: <1993Aug30.165038.1244@instep.wimsey.bc.ca> glen@instep.wimsey.bc.ca writes <In article <25mnn2$fnl@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> mycroft@monolith.utexas.edu <(Alex Currier) writes: <> In article <25l7moINNqb7@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> Darwish writes: <> <Actually, lots of programs are guilty; including several that I <have written. I think the problem, if indeed it is a problem, is <with hash tables or the appkit. I nominate IXKit ! -- Steven K. Besler <besler@gdss.commerce.ubc.ca> (NeXTmail) UBC 3.5th yr CS Coop Student & NeXTSTEP Application Developer "Being the richest man in the cemetery doesn't matter to me. Going to bed at night saying we've done something wonderful . . . that's what matters to me." Steven P. Jobs CEO of NeXT, Inc.
From: js@balu.hnv.icem.de (Juergen Sell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: PERL : GUI available ? Date: 31 Aug 1993 11:16:36 GMT Organization: ICEM Systems Message-ID: <25vbuk$7oq@balu.hnv.icem.de> Hello everybody. I wonder if there is a GUI-Toolkit/-Extension ( whatever the name ) to Perl. I have found Perl to be a great tool for Terminal-oriented tasks. What I do miss is a way to add the beloved touch of GUI to the Perl-Programs. Tickle-Services seems to have done something like that but I do for one do not want to get into another tool-command-language and would like to enhance my _existing_ Perl-scripts. Thanks a lot, Juergen -- _ _ Juergen Sell E-Mail juergen.sell@icem.de ' | (_ Icem Systems ( NeXTMail welcome ) ,| _) Deisterstr. 18 Fax ++49-511-440617 (_| BRD 30449 Hannover Fon ++49-511-440688
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: hbergh@nl.oracle.com (Herbert vd Bergh) Subject: how do I make a read-only file writable on a dos floppy? Message-ID: <CCMGCK.AMz@nl.oracle.com> Sender: news@nl.oracle.com Organization: Oracle Europe Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1993 11:38:43 GMT This is on a NeXTstation running 3.0. I have a MS-DOG format floppy with a read-only file in a subdirectory and I can't get rid of it. I tried chmod 666, chmod a+w and using the workspace Attributes Inspector, but none let me change the permissions on that file. The floppy is not write-protected. What do I do, besides reformatting the thing? Herbert van den Bergh Oracle Europe hbergh@nl.oracle.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: antoine@arrakis.osd.ulaval.ca (Antoine Gautier) Subject: Seeing page breaks in Edit.app Message-ID: <CCMr1q.H9I@athena.ulaval.ca> Sender: news@athena.ulaval.ca Organization: CTI, Universite Laval Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1993 15:29:50 GMT Hello World, I quite often have to print from Edit.app and it bothers me not to see where the pages will break; is there a way to show page breaks in Edit? (besides a print preview)? Thks! -- +-------------------------------------------------------+ | Antoine Gautier | | Departement OSD, FSA | | Universite Laval, Quebec, PQ | +-------------------------------------------------------+ Disclaimer: I wish my employer had opinions... :+)
From: Conrad_Geiger@NeXT.COM (Conrad Geiger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: SBook info request Date: 31 Aug 1993 12:46:40 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9308311654.AA11204@seawolf.next.com> In article <25e24a$cvc@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> mbehrens@cs.utexas.edu (Mikael Behrens) writes: > > Could someone send me information about the program SBook, > including its price and how to get it? An email contact would > also be appreciated. Stay tuned for more info on SBook from comp.sys.next.announce sometime next week. Conrad Geiger NeXT
From: Conrad_Geiger@NeXT.COM (Conrad Geiger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NEXTSTEP User Release 3.2 Features Date: 31 Aug 1993 14:15:19 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9308311857.AA11571@seawolf.next.com> Hello, Recently I posted the NEXTSTEP Developer Release 3.2 features. Below are some of the features included in the NEXTSTEP User Release 3.2 scheduled for early-mid Fall, including: - Third party Boot Drivers support - Third party Sound Drivers support - 32 bit Color support - Enhanced Pentium support - Additional Graphic and Sound Drivers support - Bundled SoftPC demo included - Network Install - Startup and Shutdown Graphics mode - Configuration cleanup - Additional On-line help - and of course, Bug Fixes Conrad Geiger NeXT ________________________________________________________________ Features of NEXTSTEP Release 3.2 Suggested Retail Price: $795 Product Includes software on CD-ROM, Installation floppy disk, and hard-copy documentation such as Release 3 User's Guide, Installing and configuring NEXTSTEP Release 3 for Intel Processors, and Here's How. Upgrade Pricing: FREE to 3.1 customers who send in their registration BEFORE 10/31/93. $195 for all other existing "non-3.1" NEXTSTEP customers. Price is the same for Intel and NeXT Computer versions. Please note the upgrade package does not include the Release 3 User's Guide and Here's How. Release 3.2 Objectives: * Enhance support for the Intel platform * Continue to improve NEXTSTEP's quality * Bundled SoftPC demo Intel platform support enhancements: * Third-parties Boot Drivers support Release 3.2 has been enhanced to enable the dynamic loading of boot drivers for devices such as SCSI drives and CD-ROM drives. This feature will greatly increase the number of configurations NEXTSTEP can support. * Third-parties Sound Drivers support A new set of public API's has been added to the SoundKit to enable developers to develop sound drivers that can be dynamically loaded into NEXTSTEP at run time. * 32 bit Color support The WindowServer has been enhanced to support third-party 32 bit graphics drivers. * Enhanced Pentium support Release 3.2 has been enhanced to take advantage of the Pentium processor for better graphics performance. * Additional Graphic Drivers support The ATI Graphics Ultra Pro and S3 805 drivers have been enhanced to provide support for additional RAM DAC and resolutions. In addition, S3 928 support has been added to Release 3.2. * Additional Sound Drivers support Support for Compaq Business Audio, Microsoft Sound System, and Intel GX Professional on-board sound system has been added to Release 3.2. BUNDLED SoftPC DEMO * SoftPC A demo version of SoftPC will be bundled with Release 3.2. To unlock this demo version into a full working copy, users can simply call Insignia and purchase a license number to unlock it into a full working copy. NeXT has been working closely with Insignia to develop the best solution possible to run DOS/Windows applications under NEXTSTEP for Intel Processors. In order to optimize the performance of SoftPC, NeXT has enhanced NEXTSTEP's window server to dramatically improve the performance of Microsoft Windows applications in a NEXTSTEP window while providing full cut/paste graphics and text integration with your NEXTSTEP applications. In addition SoftPC will support a full screen mode to allow DOS/Windows applications direct access to the PC's graphics system. Other NEXTSTEP Enhancements * Network Install To simplify the installation of NEXTSTEP for Intel processors at large sites, the core technology for network installation have been added to this Release. NeXT will ship some additional tools after 3.2 ships which will enable users and system administrators to install NEXTSTEP with a boot floppy and a network server. * Startup and Shutdown Graphics mode To improve the consistency of NEXTSTEP's "look and feel", the startup and shutdown of NEXTSTEP will be displayed with a graphical user interface. * Configuration cleanup The configuration application has been refined to improve "ease of use" and enhanced to support additional configurations. * Additional On-line help On-line help has been added to the Edit (in developer mode) and PrintManager application. * Bug fixing Over 500 bug fixes have been made based on customer feedback.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software From: skrbec@tophat4.rtsg.mot.com (Brad Skrbec) Subject: Taylor UUCP Message-ID: <1993Aug31.173148.17043@rtsg.mot.com> Keywords: UUCP Sender: news@rtsg.mot.com Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1993 17:31:48 GMT From the documentation that comes with it, it is apparent that Taylor UUCP has been compiled successfully under NeXTstep. Unfortunately, I have not been able to figure out what the magic incantation is to make this so. I feel like I'm playing a game of gopher-bash, where I hit one problem over the head and another pops up. Any suggestions as to what the conf.h, policy.h and other configuration files should look like? Any help would be appreciated! Thanks, Brad -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- | Brad Skrbec | "For it is the doom of men that they forget." | | Motorola Cellular | -- Merlin | | Arlington Heights, IL | Internet: skrbec@rtsg.mot.com | | | Home: brad@darby.chi.il.us | ------------------------------- NeXTMail Gladly Accepted ------------
From: gbrown@raven.ctr.columbia.edu (Glenn Brown) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Mathematica coming to NS486! Date: 31 Aug 1993 19:47:47 GMT Organization: Columbia University Center for Telecommunications Research Message-ID: <2609t3$kiu@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> According to the MathUser bulliten I got from WRI today: We received many requests from customers to produce a version of Mathematica running under NEXTSTEP for Intel. This version is now being tested. =-) The status of other platforms: NT: "being developed" Alpha: "being built" PowerPC: "working ... with Apple ... to develop" OS2: "planning for a native port ... has begun" --Glenn
From: fitzy@titan.ucs.umass.edu (JOSEPH E FITZGERALD) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP User Release 3.2 Features Date: 31 Aug 1993 19:57:59 GMT Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst Message-ID: <260ag7$hk2@nic.umass.edu> References: <9308311857.AA11571@seawolf.next.com> Conrad Geiger (Conrad_Geiger@NeXT.COM) wrote: : Suggested Retail Price: $795 : Product Includes software on CD-ROM, Installation floppy disk, and : hard-copy documentation such as Release 3 User's Guide, Installing : and configuring NEXTSTEP Release 3 for Intel Processors, and Here's : How. : Upgrade Pricing: : FREE to 3.1 customers who send in their registration BEFORE : 10/31/93. $195 for all other existing "non-3.1" NEXTSTEP : customers. Price is the same for Intel and NeXT Computer versions. : Please note the upgrade package does not include the Release 3 : User's Guide and Here's How. I am a student who got suckered into buying the Evaluation kit (before I knew there was an educational package). I very much like NeXTSTEP and am looking forward to v3.2 My question is, is the educational price of 3.2 going to be the same as it is for 3.1 (ie, $249)? I want to know becuase if it is going to go up, I will buy the academic version of 3.1 now and get the free upgrade. Any help will be appreciated... Joe Fitzgerald fitzy@titan.ucs.umass.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) Subject: Public Domain Backup Software Message-ID: <1993Aug31.185447.4725@weston.com> Sender: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1993 18:54:47 GMT I am looking for a Public Domain or Shareware Backup program to help me manage that task. I am looking to backup to floppy. Let me know what you know. Thanks -- Wes Spears <-------> jspears@weston.com (NeXTMail Welcome) The Weston Group 8524 Highway 6 North, 162, Houston, TX 77095
From: cnayak@bcm.tmc.edu (Chiraprakash Nayak) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Educational price for nextstep-386 Date: 31 Aug 1993 21:05:40 GMT Organization: Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Tx Message-ID: <260ef4$eg4@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> What is the current educational price for nextstep(developer's) on 386/486's. Do any h/w suppliers sell it bundlled at that price? Thanks a lot for all the info. --Chip (cnayak@bcm.tmc.edu)
From: rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us (Bob Peirce #305) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Problem with make of gnu ispell-4.0 under NeXTStep3.1 (Black) Message-ID: <1993Aug31.165431.24399@investor.pgh.pa.us> Date: 31 Aug 93 16:54:31 GMT References: <1296@aos.brl.mil> Organization: Cookson, Peirce & Co., Pittsburgh, PA In article <1296@aos.brl.mil> bahder@admii.arl.army.mil (Tom Bahder ) writes: >I am trying to compile ispell-4.0 on e NeXT (Black) under NeXTStep3.1. The >configure seems to work O.K. (I have gcc-2.4.5 installed.) However, >the make returns an error, see below. Does anone have any ideas on >what is going on ? Is the make supposed to work ? > >gcc -c -I. -DBSD=1 -DRETSIGTYPE=void -DHAVE_TERMIOS_H=1 -DHAVE_STRING_H=1 -DHAVE_STRINGS_H=1 -DDICT_LIB=\"/usr/local/lib/ispell\" -g term.c >term.c: In function `terminit': >term.c:222: `TCGETA' undeclared (first use this function) That's SysV. I think BSD uses something else. Check term.c to be sure that defining BSD=1 is really routing you through BSD code. -- Bob Peirce, Pittsburgh, PA rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us 412-471-5320 venetia@investor.pgh.pa.us [NeXT Mail] !uunet.uu.net!pitt!investor!rbp [UUCP]
From: rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us (Bob Peirce #305) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: presentation builder (improv) bug Message-ID: <1993Aug31.165712.24501@investor.pgh.pa.us> Date: 31 Aug 93 16:57:12 GMT References: <Aug13.183014.80470@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> Organization: Cookson, Peirce & Co., Pittsburgh, PA In article <Aug13.183014.80470@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> sh.atmos.colostate.edu (Dave Randall) writes: >i have trouble with presentation builder sometimes (but not always) putting >out bad eps files that then can't be imported by other software. does anyone >have experience with this and know how to avoid it? Probably related -- printing landscape mode doesn't always work. My solution is ALWAYS to preview and print that. You should be able to save the preview and import it. -- Bob Peirce, Pittsburgh, PA rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us 412-471-5320 venetia@investor.pgh.pa.us [NeXT Mail] !uunet.uu.net!pitt!investor!rbp [UUCP]
From: rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us (Bob Peirce #305) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: PV-WAVE to reach NEXTSTEP Message-ID: <1993Aug31.165821.24583@investor.pgh.pa.us> Date: 31 Aug 93 16:58:21 GMT References: <CBpvFJ.Lzu@unix.portal.com> Organization: Cookson, Peirce & Co., Pittsburgh, PA In article <CBpvFJ.Lzu@unix.portal.com> raf@shell.portal.com (Man Wei Tam) writes: >Within the past month or so, a large financial company, has been negotiating >with Precision-Visuals, to port PV-WAVE to NEXSTEP. What is PV-WAVE? -- Bob Peirce, Pittsburgh, PA rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us 412-471-5320 venetia@investor.pgh.pa.us [NeXT Mail] !uunet.uu.net!pitt!investor!rbp [UUCP]
From: idealogy@otto.bf.rmit.oz.au (Rob Coulson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Expressions with Digital Librarian Date: 1 Sep 93 11:19:17 GMT Organization: Royal Melbourne Institute of Technology, Melbourne, Australia. Message-ID: <idealogy.746882357@otto> Summary: Using complex expressions with digital librarian Keywords: Digital Librarian Expressions Hi, I need to use digital librarian to construct complex queries on data (i.e. not just "mouse usage summary") which is an implied and. I would like to construct arbitrarily complex queries using and, or, not and brackets. I have tried the 'word' mode and cannot figure out 'expression' mode. I cannot find any documentation on librarian and it has no help! I would appreciate any information or leads on where I could find such information (either on my NS486 3.1 system or the net). Thanks in advance, Richard :-) idealogy@otto.bf.rmit.oz.au
From: greg@brooks.async.vt.edu (Greg Foliente) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: PV-WAVE to reach NEXTSTEP Date: 1 Sep 1993 14:47:23 GMT Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia Message-ID: <262clr$bv4@vtserf.cc.vt.edu> References: <1993Aug31.165821.24583@investor.pgh.pa.us> In article <1993Aug31.165821.24583@investor.pgh.pa.us> rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us (Bob Peirce #305) writes: > In article <CBpvFJ.Lzu@unix.portal.com> raf@shell.portal.com (Man Wei Tam) writes: > >Within the past month or so, a large financial company, has been negotiating > >with Precision-Visuals, to port PV-WAVE to NEXSTEP. > > What is PV-WAVE? > -- > Bob Peirce, Pittsburgh, PA rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us 412-471-5320 > venetia@investor.pgh.pa.us [NeXT Mail] !uunet.uu.net!pitt!investor!rbp [UUCP] PV-WAVE is a scientific/data visualization software (similar to Spyglass's Dicer and Transform, if you've heard of them), allowing graphical representation of complex and huge data sets (e.g., 50 dimensional data; imagine 50D vs 3D!). It's used in scientific research, engineering design, analysis and manufacturing, and financial analysis and modeling, among others. It is from Precision Visuals out of Boulder, CO. It is , however, an expensive piece of software (PV-WAVE Command Language is ~$4950 and PV-WAVE Point and Click is ~$2495) and is available only, so far, for Unix and VMS. Hope this helps, Greg -- ................................................................. Greg Foliente NeXTmail: greg@brooks.async.vt.edu Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, VA pol2@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu .................................................................
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: eboltz@acoustica.mrd.bldrdoc.gov (Eric S. Boltz) Subject: Re: PV-WAVE to reach NEXTSTEP Message-ID: <CCoqL8.JAp@dove.nist.gov> Sender: news@dove.nist.gov Organization: NIST References: <262clr$bv4@vtserf.cc.vt.edu> Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1993 17:15:07 GMT Anyone have the original article? I either missed it or it show at my site. thanks Eric ........ -- Eric S. Boltz, M.S.E. *eboltz@nist.gov* Materials Research Engineer eboltz@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu National Institute of Standards and Technology NeXTMail Accepted (Ph.D. Candidate, Johns Hopkins University) My views, opinions and statements in no way reflect those of the U.S. Gov't, the U.S. Department of Commerce or NIST.
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: Michael_Pizolato@afs.com (Michael Pizolato) Subject: Quick & dirty "dock extender" Message-ID: <1993Sep1.153052.1652@afs.com> Sender: Michael_Pizolato@afs.com Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1993 15:30:52 GMT If you only want to launch additional apps, and don't want any other feature of a dock extender, do this: dwrite Workspace LaunchPaths "anyExecutableFile;anyOtherExecutableFile" for example, mine: dwrite Workspace LaunchPaths "/LocalApps/TickleServices.app/TickleServer.daemon;/LocalApps/BackSpace.app/BackSpace" Apologies for the length of the above line - there's no good place to break it because the list of paths has no spaces. I haven't tested whether spaces are ok, but for sure the quotes are necessary or csh (at least) thinks the semicolons are command separators. Semicolons are the only separators that work - I tried spaces and colons, too. I'm running NS3.1, but I'm pretty sure this will also work in NS3.0. I discovered this while looking at dwrite output for an entirely different reason. I had seen the LaunchPaths default before, after installing TickleServices, but it only struck me today that it might be able to launch _any_ executable. Cheap & dirty, but effective. -m -- Michael Pizolato gnihtyreve noitseuq Michael_Pizolato@afs.com NeXTMail appreciated
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: raf@shell.portal.com (Man Wei Tam) Subject: Re: Seeing page breaks in Edit.app Message-ID: <CCp1B0.9Mw@unix.portal.com> Sender: news@unix.portal.com Organization: Portal Communications Company -- 408/973-9111 (voice) 408/973-8091 (data) References: <CCMr1q.H9I@athena.ulaval.ca> Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1993 21:06:34 GMT In article <CCMr1q.H9I@athena.ulaval.ca> antoine@arrakis.osd.ulaval.ca (Antoine Gautier) writes: >Hello World, > >I quite often have to print from Edit.app and it bothers me not to >see where the pages will break; is there a way to show page breaks >in Edit? (besides a print preview)? > I think not. This really grinds on me. Such a simple thing to add. So, I went and bought PasteUp, which is really great (if a little sluggish). Lots of columns, graphics, fancy font tricks, wizzing, turning oohhh.... Who needs pagemaker on a mac? Brian Leake, Fox River Financial Resources, Inc.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: troyw@csn.org (Troy Weingart) Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP User Release 3.2 Features Message-ID: <CCp0vK.ExG@csn.org> Sender: news@csn.org (news) Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc. References: <9308311857.AA11571@seawolf.next.com> <260ag7$hk2@nic.umass.edu> Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1993 20:57:19 GMT JOSEPH E FITZGERALD (fitzy@titan.ucs.umass.edu) wrote: :I am a student who got suckered into buying the Evaluation kit (before I knew :there was an educational package). I very much like NeXTSTEP and am looking :forward to v3.2 My question is, is the educational price of 3.2 going to be :the same as it is for 3.1 (ie, $249)? I want to know becuase if it is going :go up, I will buy the academic version of 3.1 now and get the free upgrade. :Any help will be appreciated... Will buyers of NS3.2 get a free upgrade to 3.3? -- * Troy Weingart Internet: troyw@csn.org * * 6825 Ashley Drive AT&Tnet: 719.574.9844 * * Colo Sprgs, CO 80922 *
Newsgroups: comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer From: darcy@druid.uucp (D'Arcy J.M. Cain) Subject: Re: Deciding Between UNIXWARE And NeXTSTEP? Message-ID: <1993Sep1.115142.6734@druid.uucp> Organization: D'Arcy Cain Consulting References: <CC9wnA.EoJ@gator.oau.org> <id.N9321.HRF@nmti.com> <CCHJJE.LGq@gator.oau.org> Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1993 11:51:42 GMT larry@gator.oau.org (Larry D Snyder) writes: >peter@nmti.com (peter da silva) writes: >>Why should Word Perfect care whether some random third party made any money >>from selling the O/S? >Because chances are that if folks run an operating system that is free, >they expect applications to be free as well.. This is something I happened to be thinking about the other day. Let's face it. Anyone can get a free OS of whatever stripe they want. They just steal (copy from a friend) it. If they care about intellectual property rights and happen to be frugal then they choose Linux because they get it for free without stealing. Other than those banging on the source, most Linux users probably know someone who will let them copy their USG, Esix, SCO whatever so one might argue that Linux users are the safer bet. And since they didn't spend anything on the OS they have more money available for applications. Anyway, if I was selling a major package like that I would consider a Linux port and include the OS in the package. :-) -- D'Arcy J.M. Cain (darcy@druid.com) | D'Arcy Cain Consulting | There's no government Toronto, Ontario, Canada | like no government! +1 416 424 2871 DoD#0082 |
From: gt8134b@prism.gatech.EDU (Howlin' Bob) Newsgroups: comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Re: Deciding Between UNIXWARE And NeXTSTEP? Message-ID: <111209@hydra.gatech.EDU> Date: 1 Sep 93 23:57:07 GMT References: <CC9wnA.EoJ@gator.oau.org> <id.N9321.HRF@nmti.com> <CCHJJE.LGq@gator.oau.org> <1993Sep1.115142.6734@druid.uucp> Sender: news@prism.gatech.EDU Followup-To: comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit darcy@druid.uucp (D'Arcy J.M. Cain) writes: >larry@gator.oau.org (Larry D Snyder) writes: >>peter@nmti.com (peter da silva) writes: >>>Why should Word Perfect care whether some random third party made any money >>>from selling the O/S? >>Because chances are that if folks run an operating system that is free, >>they expect applications to be free as well.. This is a silly statement. The fact that I run Linux does not impair my judgement in any way. What about people who run a costly operating system: can they not comprehend freeware? >just steal (copy from a friend) it. If they care about intellectual >property rights and happen to be frugal then they choose Linux because >they get it for free without stealing. Other than those banging on Exactly. >are the safer bet. And since they didn't spend anything on the OS they >have more money available for applications. True again. >Anyway, if I was selling a major package like that I would consider a >Linux port and include the OS in the package. :-) There's more to it than that: if you need something that's not in the OS, you can add it. You can include a kernel patch (or patched kernel) in your package, and even send the patch to Linus to include in the standard kernel. You don't need to work around kernel bugs, you can fix them (and don't tell me that the USL-derived Unixes don't have bugs). And, as you said, you don't need to tell someone they need to buy a $1000+ OS just to run your program, you can give one to them. -- Robert Sanders Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332 uucp: ...!{decvax,hplabs,ncar,purdue,rutgers}!gatech!prism!gt8134b Internet: gt8134b@prism.gatech.edu
From: theharv@csld.ucr.edu (Brian Harvey) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: installing gcc2.4.5 Message-ID: <36131@galaxy.ucr.edu> Date: 2 Sep 93 01:07:10 GMT Sender: news@galaxy.ucr.edu I plan on installing gcc 2.4.5 on my system and would appreciate any helpful tips or suggestions. Thank you. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Brian Harvey * theharv@csld.ucr.edu University of California, Riverside * brian@cs.ucr.edu UOB 221 Ext. 2842 C.S.L.D. System Administrator (NeXT Mail preferred everywhere!) Systems Group - College of Engineering -----------------------------------------------------------------
From: edbson@sionext.uio.no (Stein Onsrud) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: E mail to Rightbrain software Date: 2 Sep 1993 11:06:16 GMT Organization: University of Oslo Message-ID: <264k38$iii@hermod.uio.no> Anyone got the E mail to Rightbrain software ? Stein Onsrud SiO DataRightbrain software ?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bauer@galilei.lbm.mw.tu-muenchen.de (Sebastian Bauer) Subject: Re: E mail to Rightbrain software Message-ID: <1993Sep2.124406.23688@news.lrz-muenchen.de> Sender: news@news.lrz-muenchen.de (Mr. News) Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany) References: <264k38$iii@hermod.uio.no> Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1993 12:44:06 GMT In article <264k38$iii@hermod.uio.no> edbson@sionext.uio.no (Stein Onsrud) writes: > Anyone got the E mail to Rightbrain software ? info@rightbrain.com -- Sebastian Bauer (bauer@lbm.mw.tu-muenchen.de)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: fms@chemelex .com (Fred Schenkelberg) Subject: .wn files and no Write Now Message-ID: <CCLEJL.p9@chemelex.com> Sender: fms@chemelex.com (Fred Schenkelberg) Organization: Research Group of Chemelex Division of Raychem Corporation Distribution: ba,na,usa,world Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1993 22:02:08 GMT Hi, is there a freeware or shareware Write Now compatible format available? This is for black hardware running nextstep vers 3.1. Thanks, --- Fred Schenkelberg fms@chemelex.com -- Fred Schenkelberg
From: David.Kelman@launchpad.unc.edu (David Kelman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Having problems setting up SLIP line. Help! Date: 2 Sep 1993 14:14:20 GMT Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service Distribution: world Message-ID: <264v3s$ked@samba.oit.unc.edu> I posted a request for help on comp.sys.next.sysadmin last night about this, but I don't know how widely that list is read. Sorry if youare reading this for the second time. I got the SLIP920905A.tar from sonata, installed it and configured it as per the instructions. I rebooted and tried to telnet somewhere. I got he response "network is unreachable", implying ot me that it is still trying to go through the ethernet, which given that this is a stand alone machine, is not attached. One possible clue is that the rc.slip file mentions that any changes to it should be made in slip.config. There is no slip.config in the package anywhere. Can anyone with experience with SLIP lines help me out? Thanks in advance. David Kelman kelman@niehs.nih.gov -- The opinions expressed are not necessarily those of the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, the Campus Office for Information Technology, or the Experimental Bulletin Board Service. internet: laUNChpad.unc.edu or 152.2.22.80
From: Matthias Imhof <gondwana@basalt.mit.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: LaTeX, NeXT and a HP4Si Laserprinter Date: 2 Sep 1993 14:29:09 GMT Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology Message-ID: <264vvl$jii@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> we have a hp laserjet 4si over here. and as you know that printer has a resolution of 600 dpi. the printout of a latexfile done by dvips is very ugly. in the console log i find the following: This is GFtoPK, C Version 2.4 'METAFONT output 1993.09.02:0916' 6028 bytes packed to 2600 bytes. This is dvips 5.51 Copyright 1986, 1993 Radical Eye Software ' TeX output 1993.09.01:1904' -> !lpr -P hp4 - MakeTeXPK cmbx10 657 600 magstep\(0.5\) I don't know the mode for 600 Have your system admin update MakeTeXPK dvips: Font cmbx10.480pk at 657 not found; scaling 480 instead. dvips: Such scaling will generate extremely poor output. - MakeTeXPK cmmi8 600 600 magstep\(0.0\) Appending font creation commands to missfont.log dvips: Font cmmi8.100pk at 600 not found; scaling 100 instead. - MakeTeXPK cmr8 600 600 magstep\(0.0\) dvips: Font cmr8.400pk at 600 not found; scaling 400 instead. - MakeTeXPK cmr10 657 600 magstep\(0.5\) dvips: Font cmr10.480pk at 657 not found; scaling 480 instead. - MakeTeXPK cmmi10 657 600 magstep\(0.5\) dvips: Font cmmi10.480pk at 657 not found; scaling 480 instead. - MakeTeXPK cmex10 600 600 magstep\(0.0\) dvips: Font cmex10.480pk at 600 not found; scaling 480 instead. - MakeTeXPK cmsy8 600 600 magstep\(0.0\) dvips: Font cmsy8.400pk at 600 not found; scaling 400 instead. - MakeTeXPK cmr6 600 600 magstep\(0.0\) dvips: Font cmr6.400pk at 600 not found; scaling 400 instead. - MakeTeXPK cmbx12 600 600 magstep\(0.0\) dvips: Font cmbx12.400pk at 600 not found; scaling 400 instead. - MakeTeXPK cmsy10 657 600 magstep\(0.5\) dvips: Font cmsy10.480pk at 657 not found; scaling 480 instead. - MakeTeXPK cmti10 657 600 magstep\(0.5\) dvips: Font cmti10.480pk at 657 not found; scaling 480 instead. - MakeTeXPK cmsy6 600 600 magstep\(0.0\) dvips: Font cmsy6.400pk at 600 not found; scaling 400 instead. so how do i update MakeTeXPK to solve this problem. or is there anything else i can try? matthias --- *************************************************************************** * Matthias G.Imhof phone: (617) 253 7835 * * MIT Earth Resource Lab E34/370 fax: (617) 253 6385 * * 42 Carlton St * * Cambridge MA 02142 email: mgi@erl.mit.edu * * There is no dark side of the moon really. Matter of fact it's all dark * ***************************************************************************
From: aj681@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Carlin Wiegner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Looking for a BBS package.... Date: 2 Sep 1993 16:32:21 GMT Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA) Message-ID: <26576l$ma5@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> Would like modem/internet access options... CW P.S. email me nay answers or questions... -- Ryan Wiegner aj681 on Cleveland Freenet
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: ddj+@cs.cmu.edu (Doug DeJulio) Subject: Cheap word processor for students? Message-ID: <CCqMF5.7oD.2@cs.cmu.edu> Sender: news@cs.cmu.edu (Usenet News System) Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1993 17:40:15 GMT I'm a student, looking for an inexpensive word processor that will run at least semi-adiquately on my NS/FIP system with only 8M RAM and only a 640x480 display. Any advice (besides "upgrade to a reasonable system")? -- Doug DeJulio ddj+@cmu.edu
From: Rebecca.Hunter@launchpad.unc.edu (Rebecca Hunter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Help! Date: 2 Sep 1993 20:36:26 GMT Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service Distribution: world Message-ID: <265lga$3jn@samba.oit.unc.edu> Hi y'all! A friend of mine is currently in exile from the net, but she was hoping somebody could help with the following incomprehensible, technical question: Within a code segment, what message can I send that will return the full name of the current user or the full name of a user (given their login ID)? Well...incomprehensible to me, since I don't know NeXT! If some kind person can assist, please e-mail the answer to [ rhunter@kosmos.agu.org ] (since I don't follow this newsgroup). I'm sure we'll both be eternally grateful. -rlh "I wish I could drink like a lady; I can take one or two at the most. Three and I'm under the table--Four and I'm under the host!" --Dorothy Parker -- The opinions expressed are not necessarily those of the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, the Campus Office for Information Technology, or the Experimental Bulletin Board Service. internet: laUNChpad.unc.edu or 152.2.22.80
From: rawyatt@phakt.usc.edu (Robert Alexander Wyatt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: WHAT IS A .gz EXTENSION??? Date: 2 Sep 1993 14:59:43 -0700 Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA Sender: rawyatt@phakt.usc.edu Distribution: world Message-ID: <265qcf$90f@phakt.usc.edu> Just a quick question I hope some kind net-soul will help me out with... I have been seeing a lot of files uploaded recently with ".gz" after the ".tar" extension. I am running NS 3.0 on black hardware. Is the ".gz" something new to NS 3.1? A new compression app? Any help would be much appreciated! And...if there is a compression app involved, could someone NeXTmail it to me??? Thanks!!! Best Regards, Rob Robert A. Wyatt rawyatt@scf.usc.edu (ASCII only!!!) rwyatt@ata.com <--------- NeXTmail
From: isbell@cats.ucsc.edu (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Sybase client-server connection problem Date: 2 Sep 1993 22:06:26 GMT Organization: Cubic Solutions - NeXT software development and consulting Distribution: world Message-ID: <265qp2INN41u@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> I have run out of ideas why I cannot connect to a Sybase server port on black hardware from a client on an Intel GX/Professional with an EtherLink III Ethernet card. I have used black hardware as a client with no problem, but I've not set up clients very often, so I've probably done something wrong. Basically, I can successfully telnet from the client to a variety of well-known ports on the server with no problem (telnet port, rlogin port, etc.). But I get a "Connection refused" message when I try to connect to the Sybase port from the client (I can connect to the same port from the server with no problem). Can some hardware setup be to blame? What UNIX permissions or setup problems might cause this problem? Any help would be appreciated. -- Art Isbell Cubic Solutions NeXT Registered Developer NEXTSTEP software development and consulting NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: +1 408 335 1154 USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: +1 408 335 2515
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: eric@whyanext.whyanext.com (Eric Schwartz) Subject: Getting started with MIDI on the NeXT Message-ID: <ERIC.93Sep2171436@whyanext.whyanext.com> Sender: news@unix.portal.com Organization: WhyaNeXT, Inc. Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1993 01:14:36 GMT MIDI freaks, I have had a NeXT for quite a few years, and have successfully hooked up a MIDI keyboard through an Opcode MIDI Translator. Can anyone send me some kind of run-down on the best software that exists on the NeXT for music composition, performance, and DSP synthesis? I'm interested in both commercial packages and (even better) public domain stuff or Unixware that has been ported to the NeXT. But I'd really like to hear from people who are really into MIDI and have done a lot of great things with it on their NeXT's. I want to squeeze as much out of this machine as possible. Does software exist to exchange MIDI data over the net in pseudo-real-time? How about programs on the NeXT to generate music in response to movements of a Mattel PowerGlove hooked up to the DSP port? My MIDI interface has one input and three outputs - how do I make the two unused outputs do something? Are there any guitarists out there who have done musical things with the NeXT? And of course, if anyone could recommend a really good technical book on MIDI for engineers and/or programmers, I'm interested in that too. Eager to have a net jam, Eric -- Eric Schwartz eric@whyanext.com (NeXTmail spoken here) Have you ever run into someone who was gruntled, ruly, or peccable?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mreynold@netcom.com (Marc B. Reynolds) Subject: Re: WHAT IS A .gz EXTENSION??? Message-ID: <mreynoldCCrC0v.KEI@netcom.com> Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) References: <265qcf$90f@phakt.usc.edu> Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1993 02:53:18 GMT In article <265qcf$90f@phakt.usc.edu> rawyatt@phakt.usc.edu (Robert Alexander Wyatt) writes: >Just a quick question I hope some kind net-soul will help me out with... > >I have been seeing a lot of files uploaded recently with ".gz" after the >".tar" extension. I am running NS 3.0 on black hardware. Is the ".gz" >something new to NS 3.1? A new compression app? Those are gzip (GNU zip) file...just pick up gunzip somewhere. FYI: Often gzip files end in .z (Note the lowercase). >Any help would be much appreciated! And...if there is a compression app >involved, could someone NeXTmail it to me??? Thanks!!! > >Best Regards, >Rob > >Robert A. Wyatt >rawyatt@scf.usc.edu (ASCII only!!!) >rwyatt@ata.com <--------- NeXTmail > -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marc B. Reynolds W: (510) 814-6384 mreynold@netcom.com H: (510) 814-9385 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: aj681@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Carlin Wiegner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Any good shareware telecommunications programs... Date: 3 Sep 1993 03:10:35 GMT Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA) Message-ID: <266cjb$d5s@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> Are they are good telecommunications programs for the NeXT? IComm is nice but anything more advanced? Thanx.... CW -- Ryan Wiegner aj681 on Cleveland Freenet
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bvrotney@ADS.COM (Bill Vrotney) Subject: Re: WHAT IS A .gz EXTENSION??? In-Reply-To: mreynold@netcom.com's message of Fri, 3 Sep 1993 02:53:18 GMT Message-ID: <1993Sep3.034040.11852@ads.com> Sender: usenet@ads.com (USENET News) Organization: Advanced Decision Systems, Mtn. View, CA (415) 960-7300 References: <265qcf$90f@phakt.usc.edu> <mreynoldCCrC0v.KEI@netcom.com> Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1993 03:40:40 GMT In article <mreynoldCCrC0v.KEI@netcom.com> mreynold@netcom.com (Marc B. Reynolds) writes: > Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software > Path: ads.com!decwrl!decwrl!csus.edu!netcom.com!mreynold > From: mreynold@netcom.com (Marc B. Reynolds) > Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) > References: <265qcf$90f@phakt.usc.edu> > Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1993 02:53:18 GMT > Lines: 27 > > In article <265qcf$90f@phakt.usc.edu> rawyatt@phakt.usc.edu (Robert Alexander Wyatt) writes: > >Just a quick question I hope some kind net-soul will help me out with... > > > >I have been seeing a lot of files uploaded recently with ".gz" after the > >".tar" extension. I am running NS 3.0 on black hardware. Is the ".gz" > >something new to NS 3.1? A new compression app? > > Those are gzip (GNU zip) file...just pick up gunzip somewhere. > FYI: Often gzip files end in .z (Note the lowercase). > aeneas.mit.edu /pub/gnu/gzip-1.0.7.tar.z = gzip compression utility -- Bill Vrotney BAH/Advanced Decision Systems
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bvrotney@ADS.COM (Bill Vrotney) Subject: Re: WHAT IS A .gz EXTENSION??? In-Reply-To: bvrotney@ADS.COM's message of Fri, 3 Sep 1993 03:40:40 GM Message-ID: <1993Sep3.035738.12187@ads.com> Sender: usenet@ads.com (USENET News) Organization: Advanced Decision Systems, Mtn. View, CA (415) 960-7300 References: <265qcf$90f@phakt.usc.edu> <mreynoldCCrC0v.KEI@netcom.com> <1993Sep3.034040.11852@ads.com> Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1993 03:57:38 GMT In article <1993Sep3.034040.11852@ads.com> bvrotney@ADS.COM (Bill Vrotney) writes: > Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software > Path: ads.com!bvrotney > From: bvrotney@ADS.COM (Bill Vrotney) > Sender: usenet@ads.com (USENET News) > Organization: Advanced Decision Systems, Mtn. View, CA (415) 960-7300 > References: <265qcf$90f@phakt.usc.edu> <mreynoldCCrC0v.KEI@netcom.com> > Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1993 03:40:40 GMT > > In article <mreynoldCCrC0v.KEI@netcom.com> mreynold@netcom.com (Marc B. Reynolds) writes: > > > Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software > > Path: ads.com!decwrl!decwrl!csus.edu!netcom.com!mreynold > > From: mreynold@netcom.com (Marc B. Reynolds) > > Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) > > References: <265qcf$90f@phakt.usc.edu> > > Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1993 02:53:18 GMT > > Lines: 27 > > > > In article <265qcf$90f@phakt.usc.edu> rawyatt@phakt.usc.edu (Robert Alexander Wyatt) writes: > > >Just a quick question I hope some kind net-soul will help me out with... > > > > > >I have been seeing a lot of files uploaded recently with ".gz" after the > > >".tar" extension. I am running NS 3.0 on black hardware. Is the ".gz" > > >something new to NS 3.1? A new compression app? > > > > Those are gzip (GNU zip) file...just pick up gunzip somewhere. > > FYI: Often gzip files end in .z (Note the lowercase). > > > > > aeneas.mit.edu /pub/gnu/gzip-1.0.7.tar.z = gzip compression utility > Oops, I sould have said /pub/gnu/gzip-1.2.4.tar -- Bill Vrotney BAH/Advanced Decision Systems
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: ed@cubx.com (Erik Dasque) Subject: Kapiti Limited, makers of FIST - The Complete Dealing Room System Message-ID: <1993Sep2.085112.5929@cubx.com> Keywords: Kapiti, FIST, Complete Dealing Room System, Where, Where on earth ? Sender: news@cubx.com Organization: Cub'x Systemes - Rueil Malmaison, France. Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1993 08:51:12 GMT Hi, I am looking for a contact number for Kapiti Limited, makers of FIST - The Complete Dealing Room System. The number in the OBJECTWARE catalog (page 55) : (071) 587 0033 doesn't seem to correspond to any country or location on the planet Earth. Does anyone know if this company actually exist ? Ed -- Erik Dasque "The French Guy" Cub'x Systemes only SMALL NeXTMAIL pleeeeease... ed@cubx.com It all started 2 full back-up ago...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) Subject: Re: WHAT IS A .gz EXTENSION??? Message-ID: <1993Sep3.052530.10070@csus.edu> Sender: news@csus.edu Organization: San Francisco State University References: <265qcf$90f@phakt.usc.edu> <mreynoldCCrC0v.KEI@netcom.com> Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1993 05:25:30 GMT In article <mreynoldCCrC0v.KEI@netcom.com> mreynold@netcom.com (Marc B. Reynolds) writes: > FYI: Often gzip files end in .z (Note the lowercase). Thankfully, that mistake has been rectified in The Real World. Hopefully NeXT will "get with the program" come 3.2. -=EPS=-
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) Subject: Re: WHAT IS A .gz EXTENSION??? Message-ID: <1993Sep3.060618.1540@cs.yale.edu> Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News) Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT References: <265qcf$90f@phakt.usc.edu> Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1993 06:06:18 GMT In article <265qcf$90f@phakt.usc.edu> rawyatt@phakt.usc.edu (Robert Alexander Wyatt) writes: > Just a quick question I hope some kind net-soul will help me out with... > > I have been seeing a lot of files uploaded recently with ".gz" after the > ".tar" extension. I am running NS 3.0 on black hardware. Is the ".gz" > something new to NS 3.1? A new compression app? Archive-name: NEXTSTEP-Utilities-FAQ Last-modified: Fri Aug 27 01:27:51 EDT 1993 Version: 3.0 Subject: I8. What are these ".z" files which appear all over the archives ? Should I just rename them to ".Z" so that compress can uncompress them ? [From: Carl Edman <cedman@capitalist.princeton.edu>] These files were created with GNU gzip. Gzip is a replacement for compress which achieves about 30% better compression rates and uncompresses faster. Gzip can also uncompress ".Z" file. Unfortunately compress can not uncompress ".z" files, so you will have to get and compile gzip on your machine before you can read any ".z" files. Gzip is available via anon ftp from prep.ai.mit.edu and should configure, compile and install without problem on any NEXTSTEP system. [From: sanguish@digifix.com] Needs to be updated to address the .gz file change. There are also precompiled MAB versions of gzip available on cs.orst.edu. -- Nathan "USENET" Janette PPP link from hilbert.csb.yale.edu Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
From: isbell@cats.ucsc.edu (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Sybase client-server connection problem Date: 3 Sep 1993 06:05:45 GMT Organization: Cubic Solutions - NeXT software development and consulting Distribution: world Message-ID: <266mrpINNcq0@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> References: <265qp2INN41u@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> I have solved my Sybase client-server connection problem by "massaging" NetInfo. Why this worked I'm not sure. I had defined a hostname alias for localhost which is identical to the hostname of my NetInfo server (they are the same physical machine, but maybe this was confusing). I had also specified the same Ethernet address for this same localhost and the NI server (again, they're the same machine, but maybe this was confusing). This all happened when I made my standalone a NI server so that I could create a NI network for the additiona of the Intel machine. I obviously don't understand NI as well as I should (but I know a lot more now than I did 48 hours ago :-) Thanks to those who offered assistance. -- Art Isbell Cubic Solutions NeXT Registered Developer NEXTSTEP software development and consulting NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: +1 408 335 1154 USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: +1 408 335 2515
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.sgi.apps From: rice@imag.fr (Jonathan Rice) Subject: Re: RTF and/or RTFD Viewer for Xwindows? Message-ID: <CCs5FE.HHw@imag.fr> Keywords: NeXT, RTF, X11, RTFD Organization: IMAG Institute, University of Grenoble, France References: <24p26hINN80i@ctron-news.ctron.com> Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1993 13:28:26 GMT ratlifc@ctron.com (Christian A. Ratliff) writes: > Does anyone know of an RTF/RTFD previewer for X11? I am running on an >SGI Indigo so I don't have OpenLook. I did find an OpenLook RTF viewer >some time ago, but that is obviously useless to me. I would like to find such a program too, so I don't have to actually sit in front of our lone NeXT in order to read its online docs (don't get me wrong - I'd *like* to sit in front of it, but so would quite a few other people). I have fiddled around briefly with the rtf2TeX route (rtf2TeX, tex, xdvi), but this really doesn't work very well (i.e. what you finally get out is often quite garbled - layout wrong and odd characters in various places). I'm sure it won't handle images either. Has anyone got this to work at all reasonably? A more realistic option, maybe, would be for the NeXT to produce a postscript version of the RTF or RTFD document which could then be slurped over the net and viewed with ghostscript or somesuch on an X display. This can be done I guess by saving PS output to a file when printing from Edit or some other NeXT app, but is there any way to do it from the Unix command line - i.e. with no actual intervention at the NeXT console? -- Jonathan o------------------------------o--------------------------o | Jonathan Rice | Laboratoire ARTEMIS-IMAG | o------------------------------o B.P. 53 | | Email: Jonathan.Rice@imag.fr | 38041 GRENOBLE Cedex 9 | | Phone: (33) 76 63 58 80 | FRANCE | | Fax: (33) 76 63 84 23 | | o------------------------------o--------------------------o -- | Jonathan Rice | Laboratoire ARTEMIS-IMAG | | Email: Jonathan.Rice@imag.fr | B.P. 53 | | Phone: (33) 76 63 58 80 | 38041 GRENOBLE Cedex 9 | | Fax: (33) 76 63 84 23 | FRANCE |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software From: dlgover@dlgsys.cuc.ab.ca (Donald L. Gover) Subject: Cirrus logic video how???? Message-ID: <1993Sep2.201715.834@dlgsys.cuc.ab.ca> Organization: DLG Systems Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1993 20:17:15 GMT I'm trying to run NS For Intel with a Cirrus logic GD542X board and a view sonic 6FS monitor. All works ok in 640x480 mode the H/W guide states that this should run in 1024x768 2 bit grey. When I enable the Cirrus logic driver I get the 1024x768 but there are vertical bars at the top and bottom of the screen as if the monitor can't sync. Any ideas as to what is wrong here??? Don.... -- ============================================================================= Donald L. Gover New Era Systems Services PHONE: (403) 231-9818 INTERNET: DLGover@dlgsys.cuc.ab.ca
From: dpp@athena.com (David Pollak) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Kapiti Limited, makers of FIST - The Complete Dealing Room System Date: 3 Sep 1993 14:00:34 GMT Organization: Athena Design, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <267im3$c50@hermes.athena.com> References: <1993Sep2.085112.5929@cubx.com> In article <1993Sep2.085112.5929@cubx.com> ed@cubx.com (Erik Dasque) writes: > Hi, > > I am looking for a contact number for Kapiti Limited, makers of FIST - The > Complete Dealing Room System. The number in the OBJECTWARE catalog (page > 55) : (071) 587 0033 doesn't seem to correspond to any country or location > on the planet Earth. > > Does anyone know if this company actually exist ? > The number for Kapiti that you have is in London and the country code is 44. Also, Kapiti has a US office in New York: 212-626-7800. Kapiti is a reseller for Mesa and has an AddIn to Mesa to allow real time data feeds from their feed into Mesa. They are still in business. David
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: pitre@n5160d.nrl.navy.mil (Richard Pitre) Subject: gcc for NS/FIP Message-ID: <CCs8pp.F02@ra.nrl.navy.mil> Sender: usenet@ra.nrl.navy.mil Organization: Naval Research Lab, Washington, DC Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1993 14:39:24 GMT Where can I get gcc and gdb executable for nextstep for intel ? - Richard
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (Michael Friendly) Subject: Color postscript output from SAS Message-ID: <CCsC60.J9u@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca> Sender: news@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca (USENET News System) Organization: York University, Psychology Department Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1993 15:54:00 GMT I am trying to generate color postscript output files from SAS/GRAPH to print on a NeXT Color Laser on our net. So far, all I get are .ps files which render color as greyscale, both in PreView and on the printer. The files generated by all the SAS/GRAPH postscript drivers have essentially no Postscript header-- just %! followed by some postscript definitions: %! save /RS {dup stringwidth -1 mul exch -1 mul exch rmoveto show} def /CS {dup stringwidth -0.5 mul exch -0.5 mul exch rmoveto show} def /S {show} def /RL {rlineto}def /M {moveto}def /np {stroke newpath}def /cp {closepath}def /PF {closepath eofill}def /MK {makefont setfont}def /sg {setgray }def /FND {findfont}def /SC {scalefont setfont}def /pie {arc closepath fill}def /sd {setdash}def /LC {setlinecap}def /LJ {setlinejoin}def /LW {setlinewidth}def /rgb {setrgbcolor}def This causes Preview to print the message, 'This file does not have the proper PostScript header.'. Nonetheless, it does render the file, although color is lost, replaced by greyscale. I am in touch with technical support at SAS Institute, but they don't know enough about the NeXT to determine what the problem is or how to fix it. I also do not have any color .ps files, so I can't tell what a proper header should be like. Can anyone (a) tell me what is required for .ps files to be successfully rendered in color, and (b) send me a simple color .ps file I can use for testing. Any help greatly appreciated. --- Michael Friendly Internet: friendly@vm1.yorku.ca Psychology Department NeXTmail: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca York University 4700 Keele Street Toronto, ONT M3J 1P3 CANADA -- Michael Friendly Internet: friendly@vm1.yorku.ca Psychology Department NeXTmail: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca York University 4700 Keele Street
From: wuj9@wfu.edu (joe wu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: ppp for the NeXT? Date: 3 Sep 1993 15:50:26 GMT Organization: Wake Forest University Message-ID: <267p42$1ta@quad.wfunet.wfu.edu> Summary: Where can I find ppp for the NeXT? Keywords: ppp Please email me the FTP site and directory where I can find ppp for the NeXT. Thanks. -Joe
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: yuchou@benard (Yuchou Hu) Subject: qustioin: key binding for Edit Message-ID: <1993Sep3.163922.4453@newshost.lanl.gov> Keywords: scroll, edit Sender: news@newshost.lanl.gov Organization: Los Alamos National Lab Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1993 16:39:22 GMT This is a new user's question: In the NeXT Edit, is there some sort of key binding for some commonly used cursor movement command? I've just found out that Alt-scroll-button moves the text one page up/down at a time, but is there an equivelent key combination that does the same thing without the mouse? For that matter, is there a key combo that allows cursor movement between words? I'm just getting tired of pressing the arrow keys 20 times to get to the 3rd word from the current position or having to lift my hand off the keyboard to use the mouse. Thansk for any info on this Yuchou
From: madler@cco.caltech.edu (Mark Adler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: WHAT IS A .gz EXTENSION??? Date: 3 Sep 1993 17:11:47 GMT Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena Message-ID: <267tsjINNpr4@gap.caltech.edu> References: <265qcf$90f@phakt.usc.edu> <mreynoldCCrC0v.KEI@netcom.com> <1993Sep3.052530.10070@csus.edu> >> Hopefully NeXT will "get with the program" come 3.2. I wouldn't be too hard on NeXT. The .gz version of gzip wasn't out when NeXT was freezing 3.1. mark
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.sgi.apps From: offer@robots.ox.ac.uk (Richard Offer) Subject: Re: RTF and/or RTFD Viewer for Xwindows? Message-ID: <1993Sep3.172658.21554@cato.robots.ox.ac.uk> Originator: offer@cato.robots Keywords: NeXT, RTF, X11, RTFD Organization: Robotics Research Group, Engineering Science Dept, Oxford, UK. References: <24p26hINN80i@ctron-news.ctron.com> <CCs5FE.HHw@imag.fr> Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1993 17:26:58 GMT There is a free RTF widget called ( i think ) XcRichText. The bad news is thats all i know, i'm not at my desk/workstation/bookshelf so i can't even tell you where it is. But i seem to remember that was documented in the X Resource last year. The good news is there is xarchie -- ____________________________________________________________________________ | richard Offer | #include <jobP.h> | | offer@robots.ox.ac.uk | Oxford University Robotics Group | ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: garity@MATH.ORST.EDU (Dennis Garity) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: CDPlayer.app Date: 3 Sep 1993 17:52:15 GMT Organization: University Computing Services - Oregon State University Distribution: world Message-ID: <26808f$9sf@gaia.ucs.orst.edu> Keywords: CDPlayer, CDROM I couldn't find this in the FAQ, so I'll ask here. I just installed the 3.1 operating system, and can't get CDPlayer.app to work. Logged in as root, the app starts up and appears to be playing a CD, but no sound comes out. Logged in as myself, the app can't find the CD ROM drive. I checked and CDPlayer.app is owned by root with group wheel. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance. Dennis Garity Mathematics Department Oregon State University
From: gt5870c@prism.gatech.EDU (Noah White) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Next mailing list software?? Message-ID: <111432@hydra.gatech.EDU> Date: 3 Sep 93 20:55:25 GMT Organization: Universal Exports Is there any NeXT specific applications for running a mailing list (automated) from a NeXT Cube. -Noah
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Scott Byer <byer@mv.us.adobe.com> Subject: Re: Color postscript output from SAS Message-ID: <1993Sep3.212715.8976@adobe.com> Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS) Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated References: <CCsC60.J9u@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca> Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1993 21:27:15 GMT Michael Friendly writes > I am trying to generate color postscript output files from > SAS/GRAPH to print on a NeXT Color Laser on our net. So far, > all I get are .ps files which render color as greyscale, both in > PreView and on the printer. > The files generated by all the SAS/GRAPH postscript drivers have > essentially no Postscript header-- just %! followed by some > postscript definitions: "%!" is the PostScript header. What usually comes after is something like "PS-Adobe-3.0". This is a declaration that the file follows the Document Structuring Conventions - a stylized way of using PostScript and comments to inform a previer or other program where pages begin and where other important parts of the document are. These comments aren't necessary for rendering the file. The file seems to be prepared to render in color, but it's up to the producing program to make sure that it actually does. If all the output ever uses is "setgray", or "setrgbcolor" with all three values equal, then the file will produce nothing but gray. A simple test file would be: %! 1 0 0 setrgbcolor 100 100 moveto 200 100 lineto 200 200 lineto 100 200 lineto closepath fill showpage This should render a single red square on the page. -- Scott Byer NeXTMail: byer@mv.us.adobe.com Adobe Systems Incorporated These are *my* opinions, and 1585 Charleston Road, P.O. Box 7900 do not necessarily reflect Mountain View, CA 94039-7900 the opinions of my employer. ---------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: john@wpa.com (John Bartley) Subject: Can't export 2nd partition on an IDE disk Message-ID: <1993Sep3.224124.29752@nimno.wpa.com> Sender: john@nimno.wpa.com Organization: Workgroup Productivity Associates Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1993 22:41:24 GMT One of the disadvantages of buying pre-configured Intel machines is that it can be difficult to find out exactly how the machine is set up. In my case, I got a 1GB IDE disk, which the integrator partitioned as follows: Filesystem kbytes used avail capacity Mounted on /dev/hd0a 439335 260232 135169 66% / /dev/hd1a 499655 13 449676 0% /IDE I don't know why the disk had to be partitioned, but that's the way I got it. I tried to export it using NFSmanager. It would allow the selection, but would get upset if I tried to remove the mount. There were error messages generated at boot time saying that /IDE couldn't be exported or something. When I used NFSmanager on a black machine, the IDE partition didn't show up at all (which I suppose makes sense, since there was something that NS didn't like about it when booting. What are the "rules" in effect for this? I don't really understand what the status of the hd1a partition is from the NS point of view? What do I need to do in order to make it available to other machines on the net? Can a 1GB IDE drive be treated as a single volume, or is the partitioning necessary? Where should I be looking to find out more information about this?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: steve@NETSYS.COM (Steve Eigsti) Subject: Re: Last Version of AppsoftDraw Message-ID: <steve.747120531@netsys.com> Keywords: AppsoftDraw Sender: news@netsys.com Organization: Netsys Inc. References: <1993Aug28.132700.674@ideal.muc.de> Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1993 05:28:51 GMT Klaus@ideal.muc.de (Klaus Bscheid) writes: >Hey there >I bought Appsoft Draw V.1.01 one year ago and since that day I'm waiting for >an update. I tried to get information from Appsoft via fax but I got no >answer. >So maybe someone can tell me if there is a newer and better version out there >or if he/she knows something about a newer version which is in development. >thanks >-- >____________________________________________________________ >Klaus Bscheid, klaus@ideal.muc.de, voice/fax: +49 89 3103829 >Germany, 85716 Unterschleissheim, Sportplatzstrasse 7 The version I bought at Next Expo says 1.02. After numerous crashes I complained to Appsoft and Randy Adams of Appsoft replied HE was still waiting for an update from Media Logic, who wrote it. I don't think they have the numbers of users to make good support worthwhile. Steve Eigsti Western Engineering and Satellite Technology Menlo Park, CA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: simsong@next.cambridge.ma.us (Simson L. Garfinkel) Subject: Re: Color postscript output from SAS Message-ID: <1993Sep4.140050.447@next.cambridge.ma.us> Sender: simsong@next.cambridge.ma.us Organization: NeXTWORLD Magazine References: <CCsC60.J9u@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca> Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1993 14:00:50 GMT Suggest that the folks at SAS take a look at Appendix G: Document Structuring Conventions---Version 3.0 of the PostScript Language Reference Manual Second Edition (the red book). You may also wish to give them a sample PostScript file generated from Create, AdobeIllustrator, or even Edit on NeXTSTEP. -- ................................................................simson
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bill@bilver.uucp (Bill Vermillion) Subject: Re: WHAT IS A .gz EXTENSION??? Organization: W. J. Vermillion - Orlando / Winter Park, FL Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1993 15:23:27 GMT Message-ID: <1993Sep4.152327.18224@bilver.uucp> References: <265qcf$90f@phakt.usc.edu> <mreynoldCCrC0v.KEI@netcom.com> In article <mreynoldCCrC0v.KEI@netcom.com> mreynold@netcom.com (Marc B. Reynolds) writes: >In article <265qcf$90f@phakt.usc.edu> rawyatt@phakt.usc.edu (Robert Alexander Wyatt) writes: >>Just a quick question I hope some kind net-soul will help me out with... >> >>I have been seeing a lot of files uploaded recently with ".gz" after the >>".tar" extension. I am running NS 3.0 on black hardware. Is the ".gz" >>something new to NS 3.1? A new compression app? > Those are gzip (GNU zip) file...just pick up gunzip somewhere. > FYI: Often gzip files end in .z (Note the lowercase). Be warned however that not all .z files are gzip. The .gz extension was adopted after someone discovered that the .z was used by the pack utility in Unix. The .Z is used by compress. However - gzip is nice in that it will extract pack, compress and gzip files. It's a universal decoder. -- Bill Vermillion - bill@bilver.uucp OR bill@bilver.oau.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: gbol@nos40nm.shell.com (Gregory B. Lampshire) Subject: Re: Color postscript output from SAS In-Reply-To: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca's message of Fri, 3 Sep 1993 15:54:00 GMT Message-ID: <GBOL.93Sep4091644@nos40nm.shell.com> Sender: usenet@shellgate.shell.com (USENET News System) Organization: Shell Offshore, Inc References: <CCsC60.J9u@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca> Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1993 14:16:44 GMT > I am trying to generate color postscript output files from >SAS/GRAPH to print on a NeXT Color Laser on our net. So far, all I >get are .ps files which render color as greyscale, both in PreView and >on the printer. Are you generating these graphis from an IBM mainframe (with tn3270)? If you are let me know and I can probably remember the way that I set up to have them popup on your NeXT screen. Anyway, you should just be able to stick the standard ps header above the text %!PS-Adobe-2.0 %%EndComments %%BeginProlog %%EndProlog and use %%%Page: # # (put the sequential page number in the #s) to get preview, page flipping and color. The PS generated by SAS is the pits, barebones awful spew. The prologue is the key for color I believe. As usual, no guarn. :-) gregory
From: suckow@uropax.contrib.de (Ralf Suckow) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: How to compile perl on NS3.1? Date: 4 Sep 1993 20:03:23 +0200 Organization: Contributed Software GbR Message-ID: <26al9b$6h6@uropax.contrib.de> This question has already been asked some weeks ago but since I wasn't using 3.1 I passed it. I want to compile perl 4.035 (any important differences to 4.036?) for NS3.1 on white and on black hardware. The main problem seems to be the POSIX_SOURCE/ANSI versus BSD/NEXT_SOURCE incompatibilities. Does the GNU configure program know about the (NeXT)gcc feature to take the ansi/*.h and bsd/*.h headers in this order? O.K., I got it compiled, after adding some definitions like #define _POSIX_SOURCE (to get the DIR datatype etc.) and #define STANDARDS_H (to suppress strict ansi checking) but the readdir function doesn't work even then, and I'm not sure how stable the generated perl will be beyond the built in tests. If you know how to compile perl (and gnutar-1.11.2, the same problem) please mail me. I need this help, if possible, until tomorrow(sunday). Thanks, Ralf -- Ralf Suckow, Berlin | suckow@contrib.de | Do you think it's difficult to speak Russian? Contributed Software | Every Moscow kid aged 5 years speaks it perfectly. only delivers my mail.|
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (Michael Friendly) Subject: Re: Color postscript output from SAS Message-ID: <CCuL95.6oo@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca> Sender: news@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca (USENET News System) Organization: York University, Psychology Department References: <1993Sep3.212715.8976@adobe.com> Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1993 21:05:29 GMT Scott Byer <byer@mv.us.adobe.com> writes: : Michael Friendly writes : : > I am trying to generate color postscript output files from : > SAS/GRAPH to print on a NeXT Color Laser on our net. So far, : > all I get are .ps files which render color as greyscale, both in : > PreView and on the printer. : : > The files generated by all the SAS/GRAPH postscript drivers have : > essentially no Postscript header-- just %! followed by some : > postscript definitions: : ... : A simple test file would be: : : %! : 1 0 0 setrgbcolor : 100 100 moveto 200 100 lineto 200 200 lineto 100 200 lineto closepath fill : showpage : : : This should render a single red square on the page. Thanks for the simple test -- in PreView, and on the printer, this renders in grey, just like my SAS graphs. PreView complains that there is an improper PostScript header. I've examined other .ps files, but I can't tell what the MINIMUM required information consists of. --- Michael Friendly Internet: friendly@vm1.yorku.ca Psychology Department NeXTmail: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca York University 4700 Keele Street Toronto, ONT M3J 1P3 CANADA -- Michael Friendly Internet: friendly@vm1.yorku.ca Psychology Department NeXTmail: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca York University 4700 Keele Street
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (Michael Friendly) Subject: Re: Color postscript output from SAS Message-ID: <CCuMLH.8FA@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca> Sender: news@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca (USENET News System) Organization: York University, Psychology Department References: <CCsC60.J9u@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca> Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1993 21:34:29 GMT Taking a page out of Shakespeare (from Copyright.ps), I discovered that the following does render in RED! I'm not clear whether the pageBBox and PageSetup are both required, but I can experiment. %!PS-Adobe-2.0 %%EndComments %%BeginProlog %%EndProlog %%Page: 0 1 %%PageBoundingBox: 32.000000 108.000000 566.000000 684.000000 %%BeginPageSetup %%EndPageSetup %%Pages: 1 1 1 0 0 setrgbcolor 100 100 moveto 200 100 lineto 200 200 lineto 100 200 lineto closepath fill showpage -Michael -- Michael Friendly Internet: friendly@vm1.yorku.ca Psychology Department NeXTmail: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca York University 4700 Keele Street
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: uli@zoodle.robin.de (Ulrich Grepel) Subject: Re: LaTeX, NeXT and a HP4Si Laserprinter Message-ID: <CCsq5E.AC@zoodle.robin.de> Sender: uli@zoodle.robin.de (Ulrich Grepel) Organization: meow!!! References: <264vvl$jii@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1993 20:56:01 GMT In article <264vvl$jii@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Matthias Imhof <gondwana@basalt.mit.edu> writes: > we have a hp laserjet 4si over here. and as you know that printer has a > resolution of 600 dpi. > > the printout of a latexfile done by dvips is very ugly. in the console log i > find the following: > [...] > - MakeTeXPK cmbx10 657 600 magstep\(0.5\) > I don't know the mode for 600 > Have your system admin update MakeTeXPK > dvips: Font cmbx10.480pk at 657 not found; scaling 480 instead. > dvips: Such scaling will generate extremely poor output. > [...] You should look into /usr/bin/MakeTeXPK You'll find an 'elif test $BDPI = xxx then MODE=yyy' cascade. You'll surely see yourself how to add another mode. Next you'll have to look into /usr/lib/mf/inputs/next.mf This file contains the definitions for the supported printers. Best and easiest would probably be to copy one of the laser printer entries and change the pixels_per_inch variable. You should know what kind of engine the HP4Si is using (black-on-white or white-on-black) if you want to have the optimum output, since 600 dpi != 600 dpi != 600 dpi with metafont. Pixels can be round, squared, overlapping, too small, very BLACK, grey, ... You might want to search for an existing definition somewhere else (maybe you should ask in comp.text.tex for one). Next you have to use inimf to regenerate your /usr/lib/mf/bases/plain.base and .../mf.base (one file only, the other is a hard link), consider the manpage of mf on how to do this. And finally, if you want to have an easier life, you should think of putting all the changes above into separate files so that you can more easily upgrade in the future. Comments in and manpages for the stuff mentioned should help. Bye, Uli
From: claspac@tallis.ucsc.edu (Jas-Russell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: PopUpLists Date: 5 Sep 1993 02:14:14 GMT Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz Message-ID: <26bi1mINNsnd@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> Keywords: AppKit PopUpList GUI Dear Folks, I would be happy to pay a little something for the answer to this nagging question I have: I am writing an application in which the user can dynamically add to a PopUpList of items. They add these items using a text-field which targets a controller object which in turn calls [myPopUpList addItem: newStringName] What I haven't been able to do is to get this new item to be the one selected and showing in the PopUpList. I have tried removeItem: and insertItemAt:: and [cell setTitle:] and [matrix selectCellAt::] in combination with [myPopUpList update] and so on. Nothing seems to work to get the item I just added programatically to be the selected item of a PopUpList. What should I be doing? /* Please assume I have the variables: */ { PopUpList * myPopUpList ; // and I want to programatically add char * newStringName // AND make newStringName the current // selection of the popUpList. /* your code here? */ } Thanks for your help, Will Russell claspac@tallis.ucsc.edu 408-459-2060 P.s. I will submit my VISA# to you if necessary to get a reply that works.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: kkoym@pencom.com Subject: DXF to EPS Utility Message-ID: <1993Sep1.185131.23114@pencom.com> Keywords: DXF EPS Utility Sender: usenet@pencom.com (Usenet Pseudo User) Organization: Pencom Software Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1993 18:51:31 GMT A while back there was a utility on the NeXT that converted DXF to EPS. It is not listed in the Third Party Catalog for Winter 1992 or Spring 1993. Does anyone remember who had it, what it cost, and where to get it from? Like I said it was a simple utility for converting between the two. Any info would be appreciated. Please respond directly to me here at: kkoym@pencom.com. Thanks, Kevin Koym Pencom Software
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mohenly@malahat.library.uvic.ca (Michael O'Henly) Subject: Where are curses symbols (i.e. 'A_UNDERLINE') defined? Message-ID: <1993Sep5.034252.21160@sol.UVic.CA> Sender: news@sol.UVic.CA Organization: University of Victoria Date: Sun, 5 Sep 93 03:42:52 GMT I'm trying to compile an editor (REDT 2.3) under NeXTstep 3.0. This package has a curses interface and needs to interact with the curses library. I've gotten over the first hurdle -- 3.0's relocated header files. The second hurdle is this: the source refers to display attributes like A_BLINK, A_UNDERLINE, etc. According to REDT's author, these are standard objects and they should be defined in the curses header file. I can't find them referred to anywhere in /usr/include/bsd/*.h. Can you help me? Where are these attributes defined? Many thanks. Michael -- o --/-- __\ Michael O'Henly \ mohenly@malahat.Library.UVic.CA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dylan@angst.com (Dylan Kohler) Subject: Re: PopUpLists Message-ID: <1993Sep5.122308.757@Angst.COM> Sender: dylan@Angst.COM Organization: Angst Animation Post Production References: <26bi1mINNsnd@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1993 12:23:08 GMT In article <26bi1mINNsnd@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> claspac@tallis.ucsc.edu (Jas-Russell) writes: > > Dear Folks, > > I would be happy to pay a little something for the > answer to this nagging question I have: > > I am writing an application in which the user can > dynamically add to a PopUpList of items. > > They add these items using a text-field which targets > a controller object which in turn calls > [myPopUpList addItem: newStringName] > > What I haven't been able to do is to get this new item > to be the one selected and showing in the PopUpList. > > I have tried removeItem: and insertItemAt:: > and [cell setTitle:] and [matrix selectCellAt::] > in combination with [myPopUpList update] and so on. > > Nothing seems to work to get the item I just added > programatically to be the selected item of a > PopUpList. > > What should I be doing? > > /* Please assume I have the variables: */ { > > PopUpList * myPopUpList ; // and I want to programatically > add > char * newStringName // AND make newStringName the > current > // selection of the popUpList. > > /* your code here? */ > } > > > Thanks for your help, > > Will Russell > claspac@tallis.ucsc.edu > 408-459-2060 > > P.s. I will submit my VISA# to you if > necessary to get a reply that works. The key is to get the id of the button that "covers" the PopUpList. If you've created your list in IB, just make an outlet in your controller object that you connect to this button. If you've created it programmatically, you'll already have it. [myPopUpList addItem: newStringName]; [myPopUpButton setTitle:newStringName]; [[myPopUpButton sizeToFit] display]; Include the last line only if you want the button and list to automatically adjust to long entries. Hope this helps. That'll be $0.001. :-) -- ___________________________________ Dylan Kohler Angst Animation Post Production dylan@angst.com (NeXTmail welcome)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.bugs From: artek@mindvox.phantom.com (Ardal Technologies) Subject: Serial port drivers Message-ID: <mJye0B1w165w@mindvox.phantom.com> Originator: artek@mindvox Keywords: still broken Sender: news@mindvox.phantom.com Organization: [Phantom Access] / the MindVox system Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1993 17:02:57 GMT I posted a message describing my problems and extreme frustration at the constant system crashes associated with trying to use the serial ports on a Intel system running NeXTSTEP (at ANY speed, including 2400). I posted this message in the beginning of JULY. I subsequently received about 20 letters saying different things, most of which came down to "please be patient, a patch will be released mid-July." I in fact received these words from TWO SEPERATE people sending from next.com. It is now SEPTEMBER, I have been VERY PATIENT, I have controlled my anger and frustration and not given up on NS even if one of the primary things I need it for is to run SLIP and use a modem to connect to a company system from home. But it is now nearly 2 months after the promised fix date. I keep hearing that the drivers have been fixed and are now being tested. I put forth that NOTHING can possibly be worse than the drivers that exist right now, and I am getting very, VERY tired of being told that they are COMING REAL SOON NOW. I specifically purchased a Dell JAWS machine to evaluate NS after being told that NS Intel was primarily developed on the JAWS system because I wanted to be assured the maximum stability possible. This seems to have been a waste of time and money. NeXT, new serial port drivers are HIGHLY OVERDUE... Sincerely, Tired of the run-around
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Ralph_Jung@radical.com (Ralph Jung) Subject: Re: PopUpLists Message-ID: <1993Sep5.161913.762@radical2.radical.com> Sender: ralph@radical2.radical.com Organization: Radical System Solutions, Inc. References: <1993Sep5.122308.757@Angst.COM> Distribution: usa Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1993 16:19:13 GMT In article <1993Sep5.122308.757@Angst.COM> dylan@angst.com (Dylan Kohler) writes: > In article <26bi1mINNsnd@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> claspac@tallis.ucsc.edu > (Jas-Russell) writes: > > > > Dear Folks, > > > > I would be happy to pay a little something for the > > answer to this nagging question I have: > > > > I am writing an application in which the user can > > dynamically add to a PopUpList of items. > > > > They add these items using a text-field which targets > > a controller object which in turn calls > > [myPopUpList addItem: newStringName] > > > > What I haven't been able to do is to get this new item > > to be the one selected and showing in the PopUpList. > > > > I have tried removeItem: and insertItemAt:: > > and [cell setTitle:] and [matrix selectCellAt::] > > in combination with [myPopUpList update] and so on. > > > > Nothing seems to work to get the item I just added > > programatically to be the selected item of a > > PopUpList. > > > > What should I be doing? > > > > /* Please assume I have the variables: */ { > > > > PopUpList * myPopUpList ; // and I want to programatically > > add > > char * newStringName // AND make newStringName the > > current > > // selection of the popUpList. > > > > /* your code here? */ > > } > > > > > > Thanks for your help, > > > > Will Russell > > claspac@tallis.ucsc.edu > > 408-459-2060 > > > > P.s. I will submit my VISA# to you if > > necessary to get a reply that works. > > The key is to get the id of the button that "covers" the PopUpList. If > you've created your list in IB, just make an outlet in your controller > object that you connect to this button. If you've created it > programmatically, you'll already have it. > > [myPopUpList addItem: newStringName]; > [myPopUpButton setTitle:newStringName]; > [[myPopUpButton sizeToFit] display]; > > Include the last line only if you want the button and list to > automatically adjust to long entries. > > Hope this helps. That'll be $0.001. :-) > > -- > ___________________________________ > Dylan Kohler > Angst Animation Post Production > dylan@angst.com (NeXTmail welcome) You will also need to know the cell, tag, OR index of the new item you just added and then choose ONE of your favorites from the following select's: id myPopUpButton; // Set from IB id myPopUpList = [myPopUpButton target]; id myItemList = [myPopUpList itemList]; [myItemList selectCell: [myPopUpList addItem: newStringName]]; [myItemList selectCellAt: [myPopUpList indexOfItem: newStringName] : 0]; [myItemList selectCellWithTag: [[myPopUpList indexOfItem: newStringName] tag]]; I hope this helps. Small unmarked bills or SIMM's accepted. :-) -- Ralph Jung ( Ralph_Jung@Radical.Com ) Radical System Solutions, Inc. NeXTmail accepted rad~i~cal \'rad-i-kel\ adj. - marked by a considerable departure from the usual or traditional: EXTREME
From: gshaw@kralizec.zeta.org.au (Greg Shaw) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: New fonts for NS/FIP Date: 5 Sep 1993 12:10:45 +1000 Organization: Kralizec Dialup Unix Sydney: +61-2-837-1183 V.32bis Message-ID: <26bhr5INNe18@kralizec.zeta.org.au> Hi all, I am new to NeXTSTEP and would like to know what is involved in adding new fonts to the four that were supplied with NS 3.1. Is there a supply of public domain fonts? As PS2 fonts are used is there a standard format used such that I would simply need to get any Postscript font file and not one specifically for NS? Thanks in advance, Greg Shaw.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) Subject: Re: New fonts for NS/FIP Message-ID: <1993Sep6.052932.1926@cs.yale.edu> Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News) Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT References: <26bhr5INNe18@kralizec.zeta.org.au> Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1993 05:29:32 GMT In article <26bhr5INNe18@kralizec.zeta.org.au> gshaw@kralizec.zeta.org.au (Greg Shaw) writes: > Hi all, > I am new to NeXTSTEP and would like to know what > is involved in adding new fonts to the four that > were supplied with NS 3.1. Archive-name: NEXTSTEP-Printing-FAQ Last-modified: Fri Aug 27 01:27:51 EDT 1993 Version: 3.0 Every four weeks (depending on the phase of the moon) a number of postings are made to comp.sys.next.announce which are a compilation of answers to frequently asked questions in the comp.sys.next.* Usenet newsgroups. The FAQ list is broken into sections and posted separately. These sections focus on various aspects of NEXTSTEP and NeXT machines. Items that appear within sections are not in any particular order, and get added and removed over time. Posting the sections separately allows people to find the sections interesting to them quickly. Within each section each question will be preceded by a "Subject:" field, allowing news readers to break up the file into separate questions. Each question has its own unique number. The FAQ is kept on-line at several ftp sites, including: cs.orst.edu sonata.cc.purdue.edu srawgw.sra.co.jp [133.137.4.3] Many FAQs, including this one, are available via FTP on the archive site rtfm.mit.edu in the directory pub/usenet/news.answers. The name under which this FAQ is archived appears in the Archive-nameline above. Questions marked with a "+" are new to this issue, and questions with changes since the last issue are marked by a "!". Submissions, corrections, comments, input, etc., should be directed to Nathan Janette <nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu>. ____________________________________________________________________________ Subject: H2. What fonts can I use with NEXTSTEP? Properly packaged Type 1 or 3 PostScript fonts will work with NEXTSTEP, but certain conversions may be necessary to get them to work. Freeware and shareware fonts are available on various ftp archives. There are utilities with NEXTSTEP to download fonts into postscript printers. Freeware and shareware Type 1 and 3 fonts in files Fonts-1.0-free.tar.Z and Fonts-2.0-sw.tar.Z. Each file unpacks into it's own directory. Within each directory is a ReadMe.rtf and a Makefile. See the ReadMe.rtf for more font descriptions and installation instructions. (You may also find comments in the Makefile of interest.) These packages were prepared by Doug Brenner <dbrenner@umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu>. The same directory contains fonts Shalom (Hebrew and Yiddish in Old Style, Stick and Script typefaces, by Jonathan Brecher, shareware) and CyrillicGothic (san serif, by Jay Sekora). These were packaged by Jacob Gore <jacob@gore.com> to work with the Installer application. WSI-Fonts for NEXTSTEP #1 Abstract Software POB 25045 Seattle, WA 98125-1945 Voice: 206 361 5080 info@abstractsoft.com Fonts may be purchased from Adobe (800 USA FONTS) or from The Font Hotline, a new division of RightBrain Software. For more information: RightBrain/The Font Hotline Voice: 415 326 2974 Some fonts in Type 1 format for NEXTSTEP are also available from Y&Y: Y&Y, 106 Indian Hill, Carlisle MA 01741 USA Voice: 800 742 4059 Voice: 508 371 3286 Fax: 508 371 2004 71172,524 on CompuServe 71172.524@compuserve.com from InterNet -- Nathan "USENET" Janette PPP link from hilbert.csb.yale.edu Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
From: claspac@tallis.ucsc.edu (Jas-Russell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: PopUpLists Date: 6 Sep 1993 07:10:09 GMT Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz Message-ID: <26enohINNrua@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> I didn't see anywhere in the documentation where they mentioned that for every PopUpList there is really a Button AND a PopUpList. Now I understand that the covering Button informs the accomanying PopUpList of its own title. Therefore adding to a PopUpList an item which you want selected requires both: [myPopUpList addItem: myNewTitle] [myPopUpListsCoverButton setTitle: myNewTitle] Just these two calls make the PopUpList have the new item AND make the PopUpList select the item with the new title, AND make the cover button show the new title. Thanks to everyone who responded for your help. Will Russell claspac@tallis.ucsc.edu 408-459-2060
From: wildi@urz.unibas.ch Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: e-mail address of StatSci, USA Message-ID: <1993Sep6.090506.43117@urz.unibas.ch> Date: 6 Sep 93 09:05:05 MET Organization: University of Basel, Switzerland Hello, does anybody know the e-mail address of the company : Statistical Sciences Inc. 1700 Westlake Ave. N. Suite 500 Seattle, WA 98109 USA Thank you in andvance, M. Wildi wildi@urz.unibas.ch
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Neil Greene <neil@bMD.com> Subject: GNU Gnats 3.01 on NS 3.1 Message-ID: <1993Sep5.194650.18127@bmd.com> Sender: neil@bmd.com Organization: benchMark Developments, Inc. Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1993 19:46:50 GMT Has anyone gotten GNU Gnats (bug tracking system) to complile under NEXTSTEP 3.1? If so, send me your config files or insructions. Thanks
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dekorte@ibm19.scri.fsu.edu (Stephen L. DeKorte) Subject: Questions Sender: usenet@mailer.cc.fsu.edu Organization: Supercomputer Computations Research Institute Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1993 08:35:28 GMT Message-ID: <CCxBv4.KAA@mailer.cc.fsu.edu> Is there any decent PD modem software for NeXT? (I only know about IComm) Where can I find it? Are there any PD classes for dealing with the serial port? Thanks for any help, Steve Dekorte dekorte@scri.fsu.edu PS. Please respond by email
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: flo@pezzi.freiburg.sub.org (Florian Wolpert) Subject: Re: Next mailing list software?? Message-ID: <CCwI2x.17t@pezzi.freiburg.sub.org> Organization: Flo & Co, a FreiNet site References: <111432@hydra.gatech.EDU> Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1993 21:52:08 GMT Noah White (gt5870c@prism.gatech.EDU) wrote: : Is there any NeXT specific applications for running a mailing : list (automated) from a NeXT Cube. what do you mean ? take a look at the sendmail man-page: ... Aliases may also have the syntax ``:include:filename'' to ask sendmail to read the named file for a list of reci- pients. For example, an alias such as: poets: ":include:/usr/local/lib/poets.list" would read /usr/local/lib/poets.list for the list of addresses making up the group. ... - Flo
From: disc@vector.intercon.com (David Casti) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Compiling tin Date: 6 Sep 1993 13:19:28 GMT Organization: InterCon Systems Corporation, Herndon, VA, USA Message-ID: <26fdd1$3a5@news.intercon.com> Hi folks, I can't seem to get the latest version of tin compiled on my 3.0 '040 cube. It dies on /bin/ld: Undefined symbols: _getcwd If someone knows the appropriate work-around, or simply has a binary I can snag, please let me know. Thanks, David.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: zaphod@ctrg.rri.uwo.ca (Lance R. Bailey) Subject: Re: Compiling tin Organization: University of Western Ontario Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1993 14:03:22 GMT Message-ID: <1993Sep6.140322.3878@julian.uwo.ca> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin References: <26fdd1$3a5@news.intercon.com> Sender: news@julian.uwo.ca (USENET News System) on 6 Sep 1993 13:19:28 GMT David Casti wrote in comp.sys.next.sysadmin: > I can't seem to get the latest version of tin compiled on my 3.0 '040 > cube. It dies on > /bin/ld: Undefined symbols: > _getcwd if you compile with "make bsd" and check the code, you will see that if BSD is defined, then getcwd(path,len) is defined as a call to getwd(path) i beat on this one sunday afternoon to make it link. no matter what i did, it wouldn't make the define work. sigh. since it *was* sunday afternoon, i made a stub file "stub.c" that contained: getcwd(p,l) char *p; int l; { return getwd(p);} and linked stub.o with the rest of the .o files. linked just fine. sigh. -- Lance R. Bailey System/Network Manager Robarts Research Institute NeXT/email: zaphod@ctrg.rri.uwo.ca box: Clinical Trials Resources Group fax: +1 519 663 3789 P.O. Box 5015, 100 Perth Dr. vox: +1 519 663 3787 x4108 London, Canada N6A 5K8 Cats Hate it: when you won't share your food.
From: renz@dbulm1.uucp Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Prolog and NeXT3.1? Message-ID: <1993Sep6.134533.579@dbulm1.uucp> Date: 6 Sep 93 13:45:33 +0200 Organization: Daimler-Benz, Forschungszentrum Ulm Since August I have to do my job on NeXT. My preferred programming language is Prolog. Who has experiences with Prolog and NeXT 3.1 and knows a sensible Prolog for NeXT 3.1? "Sensible" means - Edinburgh style - interface to C and Objective C - integration with a system programmed in C and Objective C If you could help me, please give me the information about Prolog (company, prize, conditions, your experiences). Thank you! -------------------- Ingrid Renz Daimler Benz AG Forschung und Technik - F3T Postfach 2360 D-89013 Ulm Germany
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.bugs From: davida@guinness.huma.yorku.ca (David Aspinall) Subject: Re: Serial port drivers Message-ID: <CCyIEo.3G9@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca> Sender: news@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca (USENET News System) Organization: York University, Humanities Department References: <mJye0B1w165w@mindvox.phantom.com> Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1993 23:54:24 GMT I agree, even if an improved serial drive is "beta" it could not possibly be worse than the current driver. We had a heck of a time with the HP 4m printers until we figured out how to make the second parallel port active THE point is, there are many capable NEXT users who would happily test new driver code, and submit bug reports and be GRATEFUL for the new code (and the "effort" from NEXT), and all of this would cost NEXT .. nothing! All it would take is a "USE_AT_YOUR_OWN_RISK" directory on ftp.next.com. Is it really too much to ask? PS: if anyone from NEXT is reading this, I could use this serial driver ASAP, I'm tired of losing FAXes on my FAX Modem! artek@mindvox.phantom.com (Ardal Technologies) writes: : : I posted a message describing my problems and extreme frustration at the : constant system crashes associated with trying to use the serial ports on : a Intel system running NeXTSTEP (at ANY speed, including 2400). I posted : this message in the beginning of JULY. I subsequently received about 20 : letters saying different things, most of which came down to "please be : patient, a patch will be released mid-July." : : I in fact received these words from TWO SEPERATE people sending from : next.com. It is now SEPTEMBER, I have been VERY PATIENT, I have : controlled my anger and frustration and not given up on NS even if one of : the primary things I need it for is to run SLIP and use a modem to connect : to a company system from home. But it is now nearly 2 months after the : promised fix date. I keep hearing that the drivers have been fixed and : are now being tested. I put forth that NOTHING can possibly be worse than : the drivers that exist right now, and I am getting very, VERY tired of : being told that they are COMING REAL SOON NOW. : : I specifically purchased a Dell JAWS machine to evaluate NS after being : told that NS Intel was primarily developed on the JAWS system because I : wanted to be assured the maximum stability possible. This seems to have : been a waste of time and money. : : NeXT, new serial port drivers are HIGHLY OVERDUE... : : Sincerely, : Tired of the run-around -- David Aspinall ---------- Former-Former-NeXT Campus Consultant E-mail : cs911409@ariel.yorku.ca | I'd rather be NeXTMail: dave@ccs.yorku.ca | rich than stupid V-mail : (416) 663-4997 | -- Jack Handey
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: uwe@orchide.stgt.sub.org Subject: Request for Information from Digital Instrumentation Technology, Inc Message-ID: <1993Sep6.221523.274@orchide.novalis.public.sub.org> Sender: uwe@orchide.novalis.public.sub.org Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1993 22:15:23 GMT Hi there, do you know, if the email-adress cd-request@dit.com still exists? I have send some questions to cd-request@dit.com, but didn t get an answer. Does somebody from digi read the email for this adress? bis demNeXT Uwe -- => Uwe Kraul Fama crescit eundo => Oberriedterstr. 33 Das Geröcht wÙchst, wÙhrend es sich verbreitet => 75365 Calw / Black-Forest => uwe@orchide.stgt.sub.org NeXT-Mail ok
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Quick Guide to the comp.sys.next.* newsgroups Date: 6 Sep 1993 21:14:59 -0400 Organization: Next Announcements Message-ID: <26gnag$1f2@digifix.digifix.com> The current menagerie: comp.sys.next.advocacy This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. comp.sys.next.announce Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. comp.sys.next.bugs A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well. comp.sys.next.hardware Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. comp.sys.next.marketplace NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. comp.sys.next.misc For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! comp.sys.next.programmer Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. comp.sys.next.software This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. comp.sys.next.sysadmin Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. related Newsgroups comp.soft-sys.nextstep Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. comp.lang.objective-c Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. comp.object Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Written by: Eric P. Scott eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU Minor editing: Scott Anguish Additions from: Greg Anderson (greg@afs.com) and Michael Pizolato (michael@afs.com)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: henry@trilithon.com (Henry McGilton) Subject: Re: New fonts for NS/FIP Message-ID: <1993Sep7.004521.1881@trilithon.com> Sender: henry@trilithon.com Organization: Trilithon Software References: <26bhr5INNe18@kralizec.zeta.org.au> Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1993 00:45:21 GMT In article <26bhr5INNe18@kralizec.zeta.org.au> gshaw@kralizec.zeta.org.au (Greg Shaw) writes: * I am new to NeXTSTEP and would like to know what is involved * in adding new fonts to the four that were supplied with NS 3.1. * Is there a supply of public domain fonts? There are a collection of fonts on sonata. * As PS2 fonts are used is there a standard format used such * that I would simply need to get any Postscript font file * and not one specifically for Although Adobe are the only major vendor supplying fonts in NEXTSTEP format, we (Trilithon Software) supply utilities to convert Macintosh or PC fonts to NEXTSTEP format and install them for you. The utilities perform a considerable amount of checking and cleanup on the AFM files, which is the downfall of most converted fonts. E-mail to info@trilithon.com for details. ........ Henry
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: steve@eps.netcom.com (Steven Kornreich) Subject: Cnews HELP!! Message-ID: <netnewsCCywsM.CE8@netcom.com> Sender: netnews@netcom.com (USENET Administration) Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1993 05:05:09 GMT I have been running uucp and Cnews for quite some time with know problem until all of the sudden, I have been unable to receive my news batches. I recieve ther first file of the batch then I get an-- BAD READ (expected ANY got FAIL (2)) and my connection dies. any Ideas.. I;m not sure weather the problem is on my side or my feed site. Thanks -steve
From: droux@info.isbiel.ch (Nicolas Droux) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,sci.math.symbolic Subject: Mathematica related documents style Date: 7 Sep 1993 09:04:04 GMT Organization: Biel School of Engineering, CH-2501 Biel, Switzerland Distribution: world Message-ID: <26hiq4$k4h@vega.info.isbiel.ch> We are actually writing the manual of a project which is controlled by the user from Mathematica. It would be very preferable for us, and for the future users of our system, to use the same documenting style as most Mathematica related documents such as Wolfram's book, Mathematica conference's article and other WRI papers. Does somebody knows if the style used to write these papers is publicly available ? And if it is the case, is it available for LaTeX ? Thanks, Nicolas Droux.
From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,sci.math.symbolic Subject: Re: Mathematica related documents style Date: 7 Sep 1993 09:33:18 -0400 Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742 Distribution: world Message-ID: <26i2iu$9ul@seine.cs.umd.edu> References: <26hiq4$k4h@vega.info.isbiel.ch> In article <26hiq4$k4h@vega.info.isbiel.ch> droux@info.isbiel.ch (Nicolas Droux) writes: > It would be very preferable ... to use the same documenting style as most > Mathematica related documents such as Wolfram's book, Mathematica > conference's article and other WRI papers. > Does somebody knows if the style used to write these papers is publicly > available ? And if it is the case, is it available for LaTeX ? I think most of the WRI papers were written entirely within Mathematica, using it as wordprocessor as well as mathprocessor. I know this is the case for the book "Exploring Mathematics with Mathematica" One clue that the WRI papers were created this way, besides their appearance, is that the following line appears near the top of the postscript file. %%Creator: Mathematica another interesting line appears further down. %%BeginDocument: /usr/lib/NextStep/printPackage.ps so if you want your doc to look like a WRI doc, use Mathematica instead of LaTeX. -- Alex Blakemore alex@cs.umd.edu NeXT mail accepted -------------------------------------------------------------- "Without an engaged and motivated human being at the keyboard, the computer is just another dumb box." William Raspberry
From: Hal.Varian@umich.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mathematica related documents style Date: 7 Sep 1993 14:12:16 GMT Organization: University of Michigan - College of Literature, Science, and TheArts Distribution: world Message-ID: <26i4s0$pu7@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu> References: <26hiq4$k4h@vega.info.isbiel.ch> In article <26hiq4$k4h@vega.info.isbiel.ch> droux@info.isbiel.ch (Nicolas Droux) writes: > > We are actually writing the manual of a project which is controlled by the > user from Mathematica. It would be very preferable for us, and for the > future users of our system, to use the same documenting style as most > Mathematica related documents such as Wolfram's book, Mathematica > conference's article and other WRI papers. > > Does somebody knows if the style used to write these papers is publicly > available ? And if it is the case, is it available for LaTeX ? > WRI will give authors a program called nb2tex which will convert Mathematica Notebooks to TeX. Generally a little bit of hand massaging is required afterwards, but not much. We used this technique for a book I edited called "Economic and Financial Modeling with Mathematica" and I was quite happy with the results. Send e-mail to glenn@wri.com and ask him about nb2tex. -- Hal.Varian@umich.edu Hal Varian voice: 313-764-2364 Dept of Economics fax: 313-764-2364 Univ of Michigan Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1220
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.bugs From: mark@cyantic.com (Mark T. Dornfeld) Subject: Re: Serial port drivers Organization: CYANTIC Systems Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1993 14:09:03 GMT Message-ID: <1993Sep07.140903.10205@cyantic.com> Keywords: still broken References: <mJye0B1w165w@mindvox.phantom.com> In article <mJye0B1w165w@mindvox.phantom.com> artek@mindvox.phantom.com (Ardal Technologies) writes: > >I posted a message describing my problems and extreme frustration at the >constant system crashes associated with trying to use the serial ports on >a Intel system running NeXTSTEP (at ANY speed, including 2400). I posted >this message in the beginning of JULY. I subsequently received about 20 >letters saying different things, most of which came down to "please be >patient, a patch will be released mid-July." It looks like the fix is long in coming, and when it does, there is no guarantee that it will be up to par. I have always avoided pushing PC serial ports too far under any operating system. They are too limited for high speed transfers. While this may avoid the real problem, I have tried to use outboard serial ports whenever possible, either with dedicated hardware such as Digiboard or Computone offer, or through terminal/communications servers. The least expensive communications box I have seen on the market recently is the Net Hopper from Sea Change. I know it handles PPP, but I don't think it does SLIP. The NetBlazer from Telebit handles both. I know this is an extra, large expense for the single user but small workgroups could profit from putting their serial connections on boxes like these. Xylogics, Xyplex, and quite a few other companies have really nice hardware that offloads the computer from communications duties and puts the equipment on the Ethernet where it can do the most good in a work group. Any hardware manufacturers want to take up the challenge for an under-$1000 comm server? -- Mark T. Dornfeld, CYANTIC Systems Voice: (416) 234-9048 101 Subway Crescent Suite 2103 Facsimile: (416) 234-0477 Etobicoke, Ontario, M9B 6K4 CANADA Email: mark@cyantic.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: lorinr@altsys.com (Lorin Rivers III) Subject: Re: New fonts for NS/FIP Message-ID: <1993Sep7.143717.9169@altsys.com> Organization: Altsys Corporation, Richardson, TX References: <26bhr5INNe18@kralizec.zeta.org.au> Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1993 14:37:17 GMT In article <26bhr5INNe18@kralizec.zeta.org.au> gshaw@kralizec.zeta.org.au (Greg Shaw) writes: >Hi all, >I am new to NeXTSTEP and would like to know what >is involved in adding new fonts to the four that >were supplied with NS 3.1. > >Is there a supply of public domain fonts? > >As PS2 fonts are used is there a standard format >used such that I would simply need to get any >Postscript font file and not one specifically for >NS? > >Thanks in advance, >Greg Shaw. > Also, if you have Macs, you could buy Metamorphosis Professional which will convert TrueType, Type 3 and Type 1 fonts to NeXT format. I work for Altsys, BTW. -- Lorin Rivers Lorin_Rivers@altsys.com NEXTSTEP Sales Manager 214.680.2518 269 W. Renner Parkway NeXT Mail Expected Richardson, Texas 75080 I said it, not my boss
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.bugs From: ian@mindvox.phantom.com (Ian Bainbridge) Subject: Re: Serial port drivers Message-ID: <X3Li0B1w165w@mindvox.phantom.com> Originator: ian@mindvox Keywords: still broken Sender: news@mindvox.phantom.com Organization: [Phantom Access] / the MindVox system References: <1993Sep07.140903.10205@cyantic.com> Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1993 16:24:08 GMT mark@cyantic.com (Mark T. Dornfeld) writes: > >a Intel system running NeXTSTEP (at ANY speed, including 2400). I posted > >this message in the beginning of JULY. I subsequently received about 20 > >letters saying different things, most of which came down to "please be > >patient, a patch will be released mid-July." > > It looks like the fix is long in coming, and when it does, there is no > guarantee that it will be up to par. > > I have always avoided pushing PC serial ports too far under any operating > system. They are too limited for high speed transfers. While this may > avoid the real problem, I have tried to use outboard serial ports whenever > possible, either with dedicated hardware such as Digiboard or Computone > offer, or through terminal/communications servers. Yes, true, BUT ... there aren't any drivers to support any of these cards, unless I have somehow missed that option every single time. > The least expensive communications box I have seen on the market recently > is the Net Hopper from Sea Change. I know it handles PPP, but I don't > think it does SLIP. The NetBlazer from Telebit handles both. > > I know this is an extra, large expense for the single user but small > workgroups could profit from putting their serial connections on boxes like > these. Xylogics is quite good, Digicom is all right, there are many excellent terminal servers on the market. However, to suggest that in order to use a temrinal program or run a SLIP on a personal NeXT system, one should have to buy an ethernet card AND a terminal server, is nice, but of little practical use in that place called "the real world" where most people would like to just plug in a modem and not have the system grind to a halt. ian ################# @ #Ian Bainbridge # mindvox. # ############################################### phantom. # I am not responsible for my opinons, I don't know or care! # com ###############################################################
From: juliana@semlab1.sbs.sunysb.edu (Juliana L. Silva) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Prolog and NeXT3.1? Date: 7 Sep 1993 18:52:03 GMT Organization: Institute For Theoretical Physics Message-ID: <26il8j$npk@max.physics.sunysb.edu> References: <1993Sep6.134533.579@dbulm1.uucp> In article <1993Sep6.134533.579@dbulm1.uucp> renz@dbulm1.uucp writes: > Since August I have to do my job on NeXT. My preferred programming language > is Prolog. Who has experiences with Prolog and NeXT 3.1 and knows a sensible > Prolog for NeXT 3.1? > "Sensible" means > - Edinburgh style > - interface to C and Objective C > - integration with a system programmed in C and Objective C > > If you could help me, please give me the information about Prolog (company, > prize, conditions, your experiences). > > Thank you! > > -------------------- > Ingrid Renz > Daimler Benz AG > Forschung und Technik - F3T > Postfach 2360 > D-89013 Ulm > Germany (Ingrid, I tried to send this message directly to your address, but it always bounces) I have been using XSB Prolog with NeXT3.0 and 3.1. XSB is free, and you can ftp it from "cs.sunysb.edu". It comes with a quite detailed manual and you get free technical support. It also can interface with C, and for our project, our group wrote an interface for Objective C. Juliana L. Silva juliana@cs.sunysb.edu juliana@semlab1.sbs.sunysb.edu (<---NeXT)
From: woolf@colossus.isi.edu (Suzanne Woolf) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Pascal compiler for black hardware? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software Date: 7 Sep 1993 09:51:08 -0700 Organization: USC Information Sciences Institute Distribution: na Message-ID: <26ie5s$1p0@colossus.isi.edu> References: <25tgea$4k2@colossus.isi.edu> Summary: compiler found Keywords: compiler, pascal, education In article <25tgea$4k2@colossus.isi.edu> woolf@colossus.isi.edu (Suzanne Woolf) writes: > >I'm looking for a Pascal compiler for an educational installation >(high school) of 8 NeXTstations. (We may eventually also want it for >NS/FIP.) We need plain old standard Pascal, although some interface >with C/ObjC would be nice. Cheap edu licensing would also be a big >plus. There was, and is, an ISO standard Pascal compiler available from the University of Virginia. It runs on a variety of platforms, including NeXTs, and may require some work (I'm informed not much) to run under NS 3.x. Contact: Mr. Jack Davidson University of Virginia Department of Computer Science, Thornton Hall Charlottesville CA 22903 (804) 982-2209 (804) 982-2214 FAX jwd@virginia.edu (or uvapc@virginia.edu) There is a postscript FAQ-type document available via anonymous ftp at uvacs.cs.virginia.edu, in the pub/dist directory. Several responses I got indicated that the compiler wasn't available anymore, but reports of its demise appear to have been exaggerated-- I'm currently being offered a source license for $150 (Edu site, commercial is more). I had some replies I'll answer individually, but thanks to everyone who replied. I'll be trying to get the updated information into the NeXT FAQ, also. --Suzanne
From: zmonster@athena.mit.edu (Eric M Hermanson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Would you like some serial? Date: 7 Sep 1993 20:44:03 GMT Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology Distribution: world Message-ID: <26irqj$hkh@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Looks like the good people at NeXT worked a little bit over the labor day weekend. From the directory /pub/NeXTanswers/Files/Drivers on ftp.next.com: drwxr-xr-x 2 na 1024 Aug 11 23:33 EpsonWingineDriver.18502.1 drwxr-xr-x 2 na 1024 Aug 26 21:05 EtherExpressDriver.41190.1 drwxr-xr-x 2 na 1024 Jul 28 20:33 SCSITapeDriver.06819.1 drwxr-xr-x 2 na 1024 Sep 7 19:32 SerialPortDriver.22106.1 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Eric
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Serial port drivers Message-ID: <sean-070993152153@128.187.73.66> From: sean@digaudio.byu.edu (Sean Luke) Date: 7 Sep 93 15:22:10 -0700 Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.bugs References: <mJye0B1w165w@mindvox.phantom.com> <1993Sep07.140903.10205@cyantic.com> Distribution: world Organization: Brigham Young University In article <1993Sep07.140903.10205@cyantic.com>, mark@cyantic.com (Mark T. Dornfeld) wrote: > > In article <mJye0B1w165w@mindvox.phantom.com> artek@mindvox.phantom.com (Ardal Technologies) writes: > > > >I posted a message describing my problems and extreme frustration at the > >constant system crashes associated with trying to use the serial ports on > >a Intel system running NeXTSTEP (at ANY speed, including 2400). I posted > >this message in the beginning of JULY. I subsequently received about 20 > >letters saying different things, most of which came down to "please be > >patient, a patch will be released mid-July." > > It looks like the fix is long in coming, and when it does, there is no > guarantee that it will be up to par. Hate to sun on everyone's parade :-), but I thought ya oughta know: The serial drivers are here. FTP 'em from ftp.next.com. ____________________________________________________________ Sean Luke Brigham Young University MILK: It Comes From Cows sean@digaudio.byu.edu ____________________________________________________________
From: David Pascua <dp3m+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: problem connecting to Sybase Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1993 17:45:32 -0400 Organization: Masters student, Information Networking Institute, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <MgXE3wa00iUz09Imw6@andrew.cmu.edu> Hi all, I've set up a Sybase server over my network and I can start up an isql session on the server machine as well as remote machines with no problems. The problem is that I can't connect to the database over the network using the Sybase adaptor on remote machines. When I try to run the DBKit example, AddressBook, I get the Sybase Authentication panel (requesting name, DB password, DB server and DB name). When I try to run the same AddressBook application on the server machine, it runs fine (I don't even see the Auth. panel). Has anyone else run into this problem? Anyone have a clue how I can fix this? Oh, I'm running NS 3.0 on black HW. Thanx in advance, -dave
From: jfosback@darkwing.uoregon.edu (Jason Fosback) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: ANY news reader alread complied for Intel platform? Date: 7 Sep 1993 22:04:34 GMT Organization: University of Oregon Message-ID: <26j0hi$6q2@pith.uoregon.edu> References: <harrywan.20.0@symantec.com> <CCu276.EE9@news.cis.umn.edu> In article <CCu276.EE9@news.cis.umn.edu>, peter@corsica (Peter Eisch) writes: > > > I have (and use daily) tin compiled fat, if anyone is interested. Source > and binary are in separate packages. > > peter > > -- > The trouble with an impressionist, he looks at a log > And he doesn't know who he is, standing, staring at this log... > peter@tahiti.umhc.umn.edu (Peter Eisch) peter.a.eisch@uwrf.edu > > I have put a FAT copy of NewsBase v3.02 on cs.orst.edu in /pub/next/sumissions and on ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de in /pub/next/submissions as NewsBase302.FAT.compressed. NewsBase is a GUI newsreader similar to NewsGrazer. Please see the readme files that are with the distribution. -jason ___________________________________________________________________ Jason Fosback, User Support Analyst | No sir, I didn't like it ---- University of Oregon ---- | -R&S Internet: jfosback@oregon.uoregon.edu | Star Trek: NeXT mail: jfosback@darkwing.uoregon.edu | The NeXT Generation...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software From: vanguard@oar.net (Tyler Gingrich) Subject: Re: problem connecting to Sybase Message-ID: <1993Sep7.231028.944@oar.net> Organization: Ohio Academic Resources Network References: <MgXE3wa00iUz09Imw6@andrew.cmu.edu> Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1993 23:10:28 GMT In article <MgXE3wa00iUz09Imw6@andrew.cmu.edu> David Pascua <dp3m+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes: > >The problem is that I can't connect to the database over the network >using the Sybase adaptor on remote machines. When I try to run the DBKit >example, AddressBook, I get the Sybase Authentication panel (requesting >name, DB password, DB server and DB name). When I try to run the same >AddressBook application on the server machine, it runs fine (I don't >even see the Auth. panel). > >Has anyone else run into this problem? Anyone have a clue how I can fix this? > What you are probably missing is the following dwrite... dwrite SybaseAdaptor SybaseInterfacesFile fullpathname replace fullpathname with the fully qualified path to your Sybase Interfaces file. Tyler Gingrich tyler@dbkit.com Vanguard Software, Corp.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: paulk@mindvox.phantom.com (Paul Kerrios) Subject: Kermit? Message-ID: <0L7i0B3w165w@mindvox.phantom.com> Originator: paulk@mindvox Sender: news@mindvox.phantom.com Organization: [Phantom Access] / the MindVox system Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1993 23:47:44 GMT I have just finished download the fat version of kermit and installed it into /usr/local/bin with the permissions set to rwx-r-x-r-x which works under NS for black hardware. Everything works fine under root, but when I run it as any user but root, I get this; [next2): kermit /dev/cufa: Permission denied Sorry, access to device denied: /dev/cufa ?Sorry, you must SET LINE first ?No keywords match - rts/cts C-Kermit 5A(188), 23 Nov 92, NeXT Type ? or HELP for help C-Kermit>q yet when I type tip cufa by hand there is NO PROBLEM This is my .kermrc: set line /dev/cufa set modem hayes set speed 38400 set parity none set terminal bytesize 8 set flow-control rts/cts set file type binary set file name literal set send packet-length 9024 set receive packet-length 9024 set block 1 set transfer locking-shift off set escape-character 28 set buffers 128000 128000 set window 8 Can anyone offer any advice? This is driving me crazy! Also, for some reason I can't do df under any account except for root either, /etc/mtab keeps getting reset back to rw root only, it didn't used to do this under black hardware either. Am I missing something obvious? Thank you! //=======================================\\ Paul Kerrios /=/ Society has made me what I am today. \=\ \=\ Ok so maybe I just watch too much TV! /=/ \\=======paulk@mindvox.phantom.com=======//
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: drobinso@mindvox.phantom.com (Dylan Robinson) Subject: Re: Kermit? In-Reply-To: <0L7i0B3w165w@mindvox.phantom.com> Message-ID: <ug9i0B1w165w@mindvox.phantom.com> Originator: drobinso@mindvox Keywords: serial Sender: news@mindvox.phantom.com Organization: [Phantom Access] / the MindVox system Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1993 00:27:41 GMT Look to see if there is a lock on cufa, look in usr/spool/LCK/ if memory serves me correctly. If this is obvious to you, please disregard this message.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: andrew@stone.com (Andrew Stone) Subject: Re: Would you like some serial? Message-ID: <1993Sep8.013704.1195@stone.com> Sender: andrew@stone.com Organization: Stone Design Corp References: <26irqj$hkh@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1993 01:37:04 GMT In article <26irqj$hkh@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> zmonster@athena.mit.edu (Eric M Hermanson) writes: > Looks like the good people at NeXT worked a little bit over the labor day > weekend. From the directory /pub/NeXTanswers/Files/Drivers on ftp.next.com: > > drwxr-xr-x 2 na 1024 Aug 11 23:33 EpsonWingineDriver.18502.1 > drwxr-xr-x 2 na 1024 Aug 26 21:05 EtherExpressDriver.41190.1 > drwxr-xr-x 2 na 1024 Jul 28 20:33 SCSITapeDriver.06819.1 > drwxr-xr-x 2 na 1024 Sep 7 19:32 SerialPortDriver.22106.1 > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > Eric > Once again, NeXT is showing the world that it's an organization that listens to what people need, and they get it out the door, Just In Time. Kudos to those working late holiday hours! andrew -- ||<<->>||<<==>>||<<++>>||<<?>>||<<+>>||<<-->>||<<==>>||<<+>>|| !! Andrew Stone !! (505) 345-4800 !! !! andrew@stone.com <> Stone Design Corp !! ||<<->>||<<==>>||<<++>>||<<?>>||<<+>>||<<-->>||<<==>>||<<+>>||
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: paulk@mindvox.phantom.com (Paul Kerrios) Subject: Re: Kermit? In-Reply-To: <0L7i0B3w165w@mindvox.phantom.com> Message-ID: <JRiJ0B1w165w@mindvox.phantom.com> Originator: paulk@mindvox Sender: news@mindvox.phantom.com Organization: [Phantom Access] / the MindVox system Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1993 04:10:06 GMT First of all thank you to all the people who sent me mail both about the serial drivers and kermit! Both problems have been dealt with very quickly. The serial drivers were just stupidity by me, in missing that I was not in the directory (the drivers are there!). Kermit on the other hand netted a total of 36 respones so far, with all kinds of different solutions and 5 or 6 people with similar problems. Here is the "proper" solution that seemed to work perfectly for me: Change the ownership of /usr/local/bin/kermit like so, chown uucp kermit chmod u+s kermit It just works. Suggestions which do not work so well or create problems: Make kermit run suid root. The new kermit will not let you run it like this, it errors out and prints a frantic help screen warning you that you're doing something stupid. Changing permissions on cufa, apparently this is necessary on black hardware running ns 3.0, I don't know, but it has no effect on the intel version. Thank you very much to everyone who helped from the net, and the people on my home site at mindvox who were also immediately helpful! My only remaining question is: ?No keywords match - rts/cts is the last error message. What has, set flow-control rts/cts been changed to in the newer kermits? (C-Kermit 5A(188), 23 Nov 92, NeXT) thanks again! //=======================================\\ Paul Kerrios /=/ Society has made me what I am today. \=\ \=\ Ok so maybe I just watch too much TV! /=/ \\=======paulk@mindvox.phantom.com=======//
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc From: thompson@netcom.com (Eric Thompson) Subject: DATABASE: info on SQL front-end/client programs needed ASAP Message-ID: <thompsonCD0up3.2FD@netcom.com> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Saperstein, et al., 510/763-9800 Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1993 06:15:03 GMT Hi, Right now I spend a lot of my time writing SQL code for an Informix SE server running on a Data General Aviion. The company I work for is investigating NEXTSTEP, and if I could show them an "SQL client" or front-end for SQL that would let me easily generate queries, reports, and possibly forms, etc., they would probably be sold on it due to the large productivity gains. What programs are available as a solution to this? I have a Turbo Color hooked to the machine the Informix server is on right now, so if there are demo or evaluation products I can test, I would be glad to. The program would have to run on Intel too, however, since that's what they would be buying. Also, do I need a separate "Informix adaptor" or is that something that would be provided with a product like the above? If not, where would I find it (assuming one exists)? Any and all information is greatly appreciated, and I will summarize upon request. I have e-mailed the following companies already with requests for information.. but any information about any products is welcome: info@object.com info@oceansoft.com info@dbsa.com rosebase@BlueRose.com objects@targetdev.com Please contact me at: Eric Thompson thompson@netcom.com Saperstein, et al. 510/763-9800
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher,comp.sys.next.software From: cschneid@itr.ch (Schneider Christian) Subject: NeXT Gopher client with big font Message-ID: <1993Sep8.081613.3248@itr.ch> Sender: usenet@itr.ch Organization: Interkantonales Technikum Rapperswil (ITR) Switzerland Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1993 08:16:13 GMT I have to do some presentations with Gopher on NeXT Computers. My problem now is that when we do a projection from the NeXT screen with a video projector, it is impossible to read the menus and the text of the NeXT Gopher program . My question now is does anyone has a NeXT Gopher client with bigger fonts (for example 18.0 pt) or has anyone the source code of the NeXT Gopher 1.3.2, so I can modify it myself? I'm running NEXTSTEP 3.0. Thanks -- * Christian Schneider; Assistent Netzwerke * Interkantonales Technikum Rapperswil (ITR) * Oberseestrasse 10 * CH-8640 Rapperswil; Switzerland * Phone: +41 55 23 47 14; Fax: +41 55 23 44 00 * EMAIL: cschneid@itr.ch
From: wind1289@med.unc.edu (Stuart Kossover) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: SoftPC-peripherals Date: 8 Sep 1993 09:44:29 GMT Organization: UNC-CH School of Medicine Distribution: world Message-ID: <26k9ht$c97@samba.oit.unc.edu> Originator: wind1289@addor Salutations all; I have a monoslab (25mHz,200/8) and some IBM compatible stuff like a PSION hand held computer. I would like to back-up the PSION memory on the NeXT. The ideal way is theory. Can I use SoftPC and use one of the NeXT's serial ports (where the hard link would go) and have a pseudo IBM compatible? In other words, will SoftPC interpret Serial port input from an IBM compatible like like it runs IBM software? If you have not heard of PSION, drop me a line and I'll fill you in. If you live NeXT, you'll love PSION. It blows the HP-95 out of the water and it fits great in your pocket. ============================================================================== X X xX Xx _-. -xX-----.------( .. )------.-----Xx- STUART KOSSOVER, M.D \!!/ * ; xX ;' ` ' '; Xx \!!/ ,.. ' X .; ..,/""\,.. ;. X UNC Hospital ,;'\/" /..,"". ' ' ."",..\ `. \/ `:,: ' :,' _.;;._ `, :;:,:' wind1289@med.unc.edu "||`''. ``` : : ''' ,|| ,.' ' ' NeXT Mail Welcome ` \/ " " `.,.,. ==============================================================================
From: hal@alfred.econ.lsa.umich.edu (Hal Varian) Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXT Gopher client with big font Date: 8 Sep 1993 12:42:29 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Message-ID: <26kjvl$226@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu> References: <1993Sep8.081613.3248@itr.ch> In article <1993Sep8.081613.3248@itr.ch> cschneid@itr.ch (Schneider Christian) writes: > >I have to do some presentations with Gopher on NeXT Computers. My problem >now is that when we do a projection from the NeXT screen with a video >projector, it is impossible to read the menus and the text of the NeXT >Gopher program . >My question now is does anyone has a NeXT Gopher client with bigger fonts >(for example 18.0 pt) or has anyone the source code of the NeXT Gopher >1.3.2, so I can modify it myself? I'm running NEXTSTEP 3.0. > One simple idea would be to use the standard Unix gopher in Terminal, and set a large font for Terminal. -- Hal.Varian@umich.edu Hal Varian voice: 313-764-2364 Dept of Economics fax: 313-764-2364 Univ of Michigan Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1220
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: (Horace Lim) hal@codex.com.au Subject: LOBR Financial Trading Applications Message-ID: <1993Sep8.114853.984@codex.oz.au> Keywords: finance,trading,treasury,help Sender: hal@codex.oz.au Organization: Codex Software Development Pty Ltd Date: Wed, 8 Sep 93 11:48:53 GMT Can anyone advise me about a Financial Trading package developed by "LOBR" from Liddle, O'Brein and Ruben. We have a major NEXTSTEP opportunity, one of the apps they really like is what was done by LOBR. Pls help, where does one look? Thanks in advance... Horace haL@xedoc.com.au -- ------------------------------------------------------- Horace A. Lim (a.k.a. Hal, Hayashi) ªInorder to succeed in technology... you have to share itº Internet : hal@xedoc.com.au (NeXTMail really appreciated) AppleLink: AUST0335 (only if you have to)
From: fwilliam@oyster.smcm.edu (Frank Williams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Sound Converter Date: 8 Sep 1993 13:11:55 GMT Organization: University of Maryland, College Park Message-ID: <26klmr$9ll@umd5.umd.edu> Can anyone tell me how to convert NeXT sounds to Mac format. Please E-mail to fwilliam@oyster.smcm.edu Thanks in advance Frank Williams
From: David Pascua <dp3m+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Re: problem connecting to Sybase Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1993 09:47:51 -0400 Organization: Masters student, Information Networking Institute, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <0gXS_7C00iV2M2=p4O@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <1993Sep7.231028.944@oar.net> Excerpts from mail: 7-Sep-93 Re: problem connecting to S.. by Tyler Gingrich@oar.net > What you are probably missing is the following dwrite... > > dwrite SybaseAdaptor SybaseInterfacesFile fullpathname > > replace fullpathname with the fully qualified path to your Sybase Interfaces > file. > The dwrite worked!! Thanks to Tyler Gingrich and everyone else who reponded. -- dave
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mosscrp@ccu.umanitoba.ca (David R. Mosscrop) Subject: Can't write to DOS floppy Message-ID: <mosscrp-080993084600@cc-k-box17.cc.umanitoba.ca> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software Sender: news@ccu.umanitoba.ca Organization: University of Manitoba Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1993 13:42:05 GMT Hi; I have black hardware, running 3.0. I can't write files to a DOS floppy. The DOS floppy appears in WM and I can read from it. I have even tried ;mv file /'dos floppy'/file and I get the same error. The error is: File error for /'DOS floppy name'/file: Invalid argument This is really bugging me, can any one help! Thanks David R. Mosscrop Programmer Analyst University of Manitoba Geography Department mosscrp@ccu.umanitoba.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bauer@galilei.lbm.mw.tu-muenchen.de (Sebastian Bauer) Subject: Re: Can't write to DOS floppy Message-ID: <1993Sep8.150815.3120@news.lrz-muenchen.de> Sender: news@news.lrz-muenchen.de (Mr. News) Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany) References: <mosscrp-080993084600@cc-k-box17.cc.umanitoba.ca> Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1993 15:08:15 GMT In article <mosscrp-080993084600@cc-k-box17.cc.umanitoba.ca> mosscrp@ccu.umanitoba.ca (David R. Mosscrop) writes: > I have black hardware, running 3.0. > I can't write files to a DOS floppy. > The DOS floppy appears in WM and I can read from it. > I have even tried ;mv file /'dos floppy'/file and I get the same > error. The error is: > File error for /'DOS floppy name'/file: Invalid argument Probably the file you want to copy to the DOS floppy doesn't conform to the DOS file naming conventions: under UNIX, the DOS-file has to be all lower case (under DOS it is then shown uppercase, anyway), and there have to be maximal eight characters before the (optional) extension consisting in a period and then up to three characters. NEXTSTEP still doesn't seem to have automatic file name conversion for UNIX-to-DOS file copying! Sebastian -- Sebastian Bauer e-mail: bauer@lbm.mw.tu-muenchen.de (NeXTmail welcome) Institute B for Mechanics (Prof. F. Pfeiffer) Technical University Munich, Germany
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: eric@whyanext.whyanext.com (Eric Schwartz) Subject: Upgrading to NS 3.0 from 2.1 Message-ID: <ERIC.93Sep8070017@whyanext.whyanext.com> Sender: news@unix.portal.com Organization: WhyaNeXT, Inc. Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1993 15:00:17 GMT I'm still struggling along with NEXTSTEP 2.1 on my NeXTstation, and I'm finally considering upgrading to 3.0. I have several questions and concerns, so if you can provide an answer to even one, that would be a big help. Here they are: Has anyone successfully upgraded their 2.1 station using the Kanji 3.0 CD? Are there any problems with doing this, as long as the upgrade supports English? If there are problems with this, what are my other options for obtaining a legal 3.0 disk? (I are a college student, by the way. ;-) How much hard disk space does the 3.0 installer require to run, and how much damage does it do to my existing system? Will I have to reinstall everything that I've installed in /usr/bin, /usr/local/bin, etc? Will I need to reinstall Emacs, TeX, C News, and Louis Mamakos' SLIP package, and more importantly, will they still run without problems under 3.0? (This part is important - I'd like to hear from someone who has done this exact upgrade and can tell me what went right or wrong.) What is the best way to handle backing up my entire system before starting with the upgrade? Do most SCSI tape backup drives or DAT drives work with the NeXT if I have the proper SCSI-II to SCSI-I cable? Once I have a drive, how exactly can I go about backing up in a way that will allow me to recover from tape if my machine gets totally hosed? Finally, are there any other major gotchas with the upgrade? Does anyone have a list of software that ran under 2.1 but no longer does under 3.0? Thanks in advance for any information you can offer. Eric -- Eric Schwartz eric@whyanext.com (NeXTmail spoken here) Have you ever run into someone who was gruntled, ruly, or peccable?
From: briggman@rock.concert.net (David B Briggman -- Personal Account) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: WHAT IS A .gz EXTENSION??? Date: 8 Sep 1993 15:41:16 GMT Organization: MCNC Center for Communications -- PUBLIC ACCESS UNIX Message-ID: <26kues$s65@inxs.concert.net> References: <265qcf$90f@phakt.usc.edu> <mreynoldCCrC0v.KEI@netcom.com> <1993Sep3.034040.11852@ads.com> A little utility called "Opener.app" available from the usual archive sights has been modified by a buddy of mine, Denise Blakeley at Duke Medical Center Information Systems, to open .gz files. Cheers, Dave Briggman -- ___________________________________________________________________________ Advanced Business Systems (919) 682-8553 [voice] 19 Joci Court (919) 682-1126 [fax] Durham, North Carolina 27704 briggman@rock.concert.net
From: djh@next11.math.pitt.edu (dj hebert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mathematica related documents style Message-ID: <965@blue.cis.pitt.edu> Date: 8 Sep 93 15:56:51 GMT References: <26hiq4$k4h@vega.info.isbiel.ch> Sender: news+@pitt.edu In article <26hiq4$k4h@vega.info.isbiel.ch> droux@info.isbiel.ch (Nicolas Droux) writes: > > We are actually writing the manual of a project which is controlled by the > user from Mathematica. It would be very preferable for us, and for the > future users of our system, to use the same documenting style as most > Mathematica related documents such as Wolfram's book, Mathematica > conference's article and other WRI papers. > > Does somebody knows if the style used to write these papers is publicly > available ? And if it is the case, is it available for LaTeX ? > > Thanks, > > Nicolas Droux. From information supplied at a recent Mathematica Developers Conference: A set of LaTeX macros called WRILaTeX is available from Wolfram Research (WRI) to authors who want to produce a book or technical report on Mathematica. With this I think you can duplicate the style of Wolfram's book. To use it you must sign a contract that you will not use the macros for publishing non-Mathematica-related work. For more information contact Publications Manager, WRI, or email: wri-latex@wri.com. Also: Cameron Smith has a Notebook to TeX converter called csnb2tex described in his recent article in the Mathematica Journal v3 summer 1993. He says it is available from MathSource, i.e. the anonymous ftp site mathsource.wri.com, but I dont know where to look among the large number of directories there. -DJ Hebert Dept. of Math/Stat University of Pittsburgh Pittsburgh, PA 15260
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.text.tex From: carlip@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Walter C3arlip) Subject: NeXT TeX Message-ID: <1993Sep8.144401.21797@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu> Organization: Ohio University Mathematics Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1993 14:44:01 GMT Our NeXt station came with a nice implementation of TeX distributed as a tar file called NeXT-TeX. Is there a new version available by ftp anywhare (perhaps one that will build TeX with NFSS and AMSLaTeX)? Thanks, --Walter _____________________________________________________________________________ Walter C3arlip **** carlip@ace.cs.ohiou.edu **** (the "3" is silent) _____________________________________________________________________________ -- _____________________________________________________________________________ Walter C3arlip **** carlip@ace.cs.ohiou.edu **** (the "3" is silent) _____________________________________________________________________________
From: Hal.Varian@umich.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXT TeX Date: 8 Sep 1993 16:51:54 GMT Organization: University of Michigan - College of Literature, Science, and TheArts Distribution: world Message-ID: <26l2ja$31r@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu> References: <1993Sep8.144401.21797@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu> In article <1993Sep8.144401.21797@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu> carlip@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Walter C3arlip) writes: > > Our NeXt station came with a nice implementation of TeX distributed > as a tar file called NeXT-TeX. Is there a new version available > by ftp anywhare (perhaps one that will build TeX with NFSS and AMSLaTeX)? > This is on the 3.1 upgrade disk. -- Hal.Varian@umich.edu Hal Varian voice: 313-764-2364 Dept of Economics fax: 313-764-2364 Univ of Michigan Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1220
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs From: jmbreuer@trek.nbg.sub.org Subject: Re: NeXSTEP Intel and SERIAL PORT DRIVER == JOKE Message-ID: <1993Sep7.134921.1503@trek.nbg.sub.org> Organization: private References: <LTo46B3w165w@mindvox.phantom.com> Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1993 13:49:21 GMT chrisl@mindvox.phantom.com (Chris Lesher) writes: >Having spent more hours than I care to count exposed to the Windows >environment at work, and through an extended patronage of MindVox which >seems to be something of a NeXT mecca full of converts and true believers, >when the time came for me to purchase a new machine this fall for in-house >evaluation and future planning, I was quite excited by the prospects of >NeXTSTEP technology. > After arranging to view some of the NeXT's at Vox I came away with >a strange feeling that perhaps I should have listened to. I was stunned >by the user environment and in an office full of machinery the only only >ones that seemed to have any active use as workstations were two NeXT's, >and a Super NES ;-). But for the life of me, other than the obvious >observation that a lot of people smoke pot in a closed room, I was unable >to figure out what anybody there used the NeXT's for other than $10,000 >paper weights which served as terminals to be hooked through an ethernet >to the servers, all of which were dull, dreary, with the monitors turned >off, but every single machine was some kind of Sun. In fact MindVox which >started on the NeXT had moved away from using them for anything except >fancy terminals as quickly as they could. > > But no..... I listened to the advice of the people hanging around, >read and re-read the evangelists postings and sunk nearly $10,000 of my >company's money into a NeXTSTEP eval machine from Dell. > > And what I now proudly possess is my very own $10,000 paperweight. > I plug it into the ethernet, RDP exception #6, the machine hangs every >time within a matter of hours. I plug in a modem, guess what, oh SORRY, >the serial port drivers have a few problems. I NEEDED A MACHINE THAT CAN >COMMUNICATE WITH OTHER MACHINES. A STAND-ALONE SYSTEM IS NEARLY WORTHLESS >TO ME AND RIGHT NOW, THAT'S WHAT I HAVE, BECAUSE ANY TIME I TRY TO PLUG IT >INTO A NETWORK OR CONNECT A MODEM, IT HANGS. *EVERY SINGLE TIME* To >suggest that the solution is waiting for NS3.2 to arrive in the 3rd >quarter, or 4th quarter, or whenever it gets here, is absolutely >preposterous. I have paid for something which does NOT work. For all its >garbage, Windows DOES work and rarely crashes and right now I'm using a What exactly does "rarely" for you? Once every half an hour? :-| I once TRIED to do some "amateur" DTP using Windows (and the two thousand utilities you need to run it). Oh, no... >486dx/33 to get my work done, while I look at the NeXT and realize what I >should have known in the first place. The NeXT is a beautiful >paper-weight, which is championed by the sort of people who have SGI >Indigo^2's sitting in their houses because "they're so cool man", have >wardrobes from Armani, cars from Porsche, and make a living selling ATTITUDE. > > In a word, that's the NeXT, because it certainly doesn't do >anything like FUNCTION as expected. When I brought these problems back to >the true believers I came away with the tremendous wisdom of "well, I >dunno, right now I just use kermit on the SGI or tip out" followed by >"NeXTSTEP is pretty to look at, but ya know, its like whatever, the Apple >][+ pretty much did everything I wanted a computer to do. It had a >terminal program called AE pro, and a word processor. Everything else are >neat toys to play with." > > BINGO. So now I'm using Windows. And looking at OS/2. > > NeXT, this is RIDICULOUS. Kindly assign one or two persons to >take the 3 hours needed to fix your serial port and ethernet drivers and >allow those of us who have invested into what you and your evangelists are >espousing, to at least make use of what we have purchased. There is no >way I could ever recommend NeXTSTEP to our purchasing department, I have >this sinking feeling I'd be left holding the bag, a feeling many people >who purchased black hardware in 1993 must be very familiar with. > > chrisl@phantom.com Hmmm... maybe those people [NeXT Inc.] should have kept on making the real thing. I was quite upset with DOS/Windoze, and finally replaced my I-Blame-Myself-compatible equipment with a NeXTcube w/ dimension. And, whoa!, the machine stayed up for one week, two weeks, three weeks, a month, half a year... and, in fact, is still running and doing anything I need and want to do. I do not experience any strange problems with connecting the cube to about any Ethernet Network or modem, (how else could I write this letter), and I still have not seen any GUI comparable to NS. The problem mentioned above comes down to the basic philosophy of buying computers: Either you try to stay "in fashion" (good luck to your bank account or wherever you get your money from), or you try and find a computer that does anything you want it to do with the speed you need it being done, and do not really need to keep up to date. I, personally, chose the second option, and I cannot imagine replacing the Cube with anything else. It does what I want it to do, and it does not need hours of personal care. Have you tried to configure, say, an IBM-Comp. to run one of these wonderful memory managers (like QEMM, which is not bad at all) and something weird like a CD-ROM driver to have more than 450 KB of base memory free (which Windoze desperatly needs to run)? Yes, it works, but good luck, take your time, and don't ever dare to add some more peripherals which need drivers... or take the time again. If DOS/Windows does everything you want your computer to do, fine! I don't try to persuade anyone to turn away from a working equipment. I just want to tell those people who do want to work with their computers (instead of doing a full-time-job configuring them) that I found a solution which works fine for me. I am not pro-NeXT (well, at least not in the extreme), I just don't like equipment that does not work, imagine a car sold with the following instructions: Yes, the new engine can be put in "enhanced mode", which gives you some hundred percent more performance, but it also uses a different kind of fuel, which is very difficult to get (although it really is not); and the other parts of the car were not really built to facilitate the engine being run in enhanced mode. Therefore we recommend you to run your engine in "compatibility mode". ... that is about the reason why I am "anti-IBM". Again, this is not meant to be a flame, I would just like to put things a bit differently: NeXT did make a mistake, that's right, they moved to unsuitable hardware for NS and are now (apparently) not able to handle it. IBM somehow managed to sell its "it-just-might-work...perhaps"- Computers to about everyone... and now you blame NeXT for not being able to cope with old-fashioned architecture restrictions. Just wanted to say that, Joe -- | Joachim Breuer | Usenet: | | Weichselgartenstrasse 34a | jmbreuer@trek.nbg.sub.org | | 91301 Forchheim +---------------------------+ | Germany | Data: +49 9191 33915 |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: gvh@metrosoft.com (Gordon Van Huizen) Subject: Re: ANY news reader alread complied for Intel platform? Message-ID: <1993Sep8.173902.4740@metrosoft.com> Sender: gvh@metrosoft.com Organization: Metrosoft References: <26j0hi$6q2@pith.uoregon.edu> Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1993 17:39:02 GMT In article <26j0hi$6q2@pith.uoregon.edu> jfosback@darkwing.uoregon.edu (Jason Fosback) writes: > NewsBase is a GUI newsreader similar to NewsGrazer. > Please see the readme files that are with the > distribution. Would somebody mind saying how it compares to NewsGrazer? Gordon -- Gordon Van Huizen vox: 619.488.9411 fax: 619.488.3045 Metrosoft gvh@metrosoft.com [NeXTmail welcome]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: csp@ohm.york.ac.uk (Colin Perkins) Subject: Re: Compiling tin Message-ID: <1993Sep8.215728.8414@ohm.york.ac.uk> Organization: Computer Systems Engineering Group, University of York, UK. References: <26fdd1$3a5@news.intercon.com> <1993Sep6.140322.3878@julian.uwo.ca> Date: Wed, 8 Sep 93 21:57:28 GMT Lance R. Bailey (zaphod@ctrg.rri.uwo.ca) wrote: >on 6 Sep 1993 13:19:28 GMT David Casti wrote in comp.sys.next.sysadmin: >> I can't seem to get the latest version of tin compiled on my 3.0 '040 >> cube. It dies on >> /bin/ld: Undefined symbols: >> _getcwd >if you compile with "make bsd" and check the code, you will see that >if BSD is defined, then getcwd(path,len) is defined as a call to getwd(path) Assuming you mean tin1.2PL1, I got this going in the end, and it was just a single line patch! Near the end of misc.c (in the make_post_process_cmd function) there is a call to getcwd(currentdir, sizeof(currentdir)); Change this to get_cwd(currentdir); and all should work! Hope this helps, Colin -- Colin Perkins Computer Systems Engineering Group, Email: csp@ohm.york.ac.uk University of York, YO1 5DD, UK. Phone: +44 904 432379
From: audun@doek.uoregon.edu (Audun S. Runde) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: PF1 -- PF4 keys in NS3.1 Terminal.app? Date: 8 Sep 1993 23:52:11 GMT Organization: University of Oregon Message-ID: <26lr7b$j9m@pith.uoregon.edu> Keywords: 3.1 Terminal.app VT100 Dear NeXT users, I recently upgraded to NeXTSTEP 3.1 on my NeXTSTATION. With this came a new Terminal.app -- and new problems. Using Terminal as a VT100 emulator, with the keypad in "appliation" mode, used to work, but not any more (well, it works partly, but not quite like a VT100). After reading the documentation (without luck) and trying quite a number of different combinations of Alt, Command, Shift etc. together with the four top keys on my keypad (`=/*) I have so far been unable to generate the appropriate codes for PF1 through PF4. Is there a trick to this? Can it be done (and if so, PLEASE tell me!)? And if PF1-PF4 are "unrecoverable", can I go back to the 3.0 Terminal (which worked) under 3.1? Thanks for any help in this -- I will of course summarize any responses. Audun S. Runde Statistical Programmer/Consultant University of Oregon Computing Center Eugene, OR 97403
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs From: dav@well.sf.ca.us (Paul Davilon) Subject: Re: NeXSTEP Intel and SERIAL PORT DRIVER == JOKE Organization: The Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link, Sausalito, CA Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1993 05:59:13 GMT Message-ID: <CD2oMq.8o5@well.sf.ca.us> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs References: <LTo46B3w165w@mindvox.phantom.com> <1993Sep7.134921.1503@trek.nbg.sub.org> Sender: news@well.sf.ca.us jmbreuer@trek.nbg.sub.org wrote: : chrisl@mindvox.phantom.com (Chris Lesher) writes: : >Having spent more hours than I care to count exposed to the Windows : >environment at work, and through an extended patronage of MindVox which : >seems to be something of a NeXT mecca full of converts and true believers, : >when the time came for me to purchase a new machine this fall for in-house : >evaluation and future planning, I was quite excited by the prospects of : >NeXTSTEP technology. : > After arranging to view some of the NeXT's at Vox I came away with : >a strange feeling that perhaps I should have listened to. I was stunned : >by the user environment and in an office full of machinery the only only : >ones that seemed to have any active use as workstations were two NeXT's, : >and a Super NES ;-). But for the life of me, other than the obvious : >observation that a lot of people smoke pot in a closed room, I was unable : >to figure out what anybody there used the NeXT's for other than $10,000 : >paper weights which served as terminals to be hooked through an ethernet : >to the servers, all of which were dull, dreary, with the monitors turned : >off, but every single machine was some kind of Sun. In fact MindVox which : >started on the NeXT had moved away from using them for anything except : >fancy terminals as quickly as they could. : > : > But no..... I listened to the advice of the people hanging around, : >read and re-read the evangelists postings and sunk nearly $10,000 of my : >company's money into a NeXTSTEP eval machine from Dell. : > : > And what I now proudly possess is my very own $10,000 paperweight. : > I plug it into the ethernet, RDP exception #6, the machine hangs every : >time within a matter of hours. I plug in a modem, guess what, oh SORRY, : >the serial port drivers have a few problems. I NEEDED A MACHINE THAT CAN : >COMMUNICATE WITH OTHER MACHINES. A STAND-ALONE SYSTEM IS NEARLY WORTHLESS : >TO ME AND RIGHT NOW, THAT'S WHAT I HAVE, BECAUSE ANY TIME I TRY TO PLUG IT : >INTO A NETWORK OR CONNECT A MODEM, IT HANGS. *EVERY SINGLE TIME* To : >suggest that the solution is waiting for NS3.2 to arrive in the 3rd : >quarter, or 4th quarter, or whenever it gets here, is absolutely : >preposterous. I have paid for something which does NOT work. For all its : >garbage, Windows DOES work and rarely crashes and right now I'm using a : What exactly does "rarely" for you? Once every half an hour? :-| : I once TRIED to do some "amateur" DTP using Windows (and the two : thousand utilities you need to run it). Oh, no... : >486dx/33 to get my work done, while I look at the NeXT and realize what I : >should have known in the first place. The NeXT is a beautiful : >paper-weight, which is championed by the sort of people who have SGI : >Indigo^2's sitting in their houses because "they're so cool man", have : >wardrobes from Armani, cars from Porsche, and make a living selling ATTITUDE. : > : > In a word, that's the NeXT, because it certainly doesn't do : >anything like FUNCTION as expected. When I brought these problems back to : >the true believers I came away with the tremendous wisdom of "well, I : >dunno, right now I just use kermit on the SGI or tip out" followed by : >"NeXTSTEP is pretty to look at, but ya know, its like whatever, the Apple : >][+ pretty much did everything I wanted a computer to do. It had a : >terminal program called AE pro, and a word processor. Everything else are : >neat toys to play with." : > : > BINGO. So now I'm using Windows. And looking at OS/2. : > : > NeXT, this is RIDICULOUS. Kindly assign one or two persons to : >take the 3 hours needed to fix your serial port and ethernet drivers and : >allow those of us who have invested into what you and your evangelists are : >espousing, to at least make use of what we have purchased. There is no : >way I could ever recommend NeXTSTEP to our purchasing department, I have : >this sinking feeling I'd be left holding the bag, a feeling many people : >who purchased black hardware in 1993 must be very familiar with. : > : > chrisl@phantom.com : Hmmm... maybe those people [NeXT Inc.] should have kept on making the : real thing. : I was quite upset with DOS/Windoze, and finally replaced my : I-Blame-Myself-compatible equipment with a NeXTcube w/ dimension. : And, whoa!, the machine stayed up for one week, two weeks, three : weeks, a month, half a year... and, in fact, is still running and : doing anything I need and want to do. : I do not experience any strange problems with connecting the cube to : about any Ethernet Network or modem, (how else could I write this : letter), and I still have not seen any GUI comparable to NS. : The problem mentioned above comes down to the basic philosophy of : buying computers: Either you try to stay "in fashion" (good luck to : your bank account or wherever you get your money from), or you try and : find a computer that does anything you want it to do with the speed : you need it being done, and do not really need to keep up to date. I, : personally, chose the second option, and I cannot imagine replacing : the Cube with anything else. It does what I want it to do, and it does : not need hours of personal care. Have you tried to configure, say, an : IBM-Comp. to run one of these wonderful memory managers (like QEMM, : which is not bad at all) and something weird like a CD-ROM driver to : have more than 450 KB of base memory free (which Windoze desperatly : needs to run)? Yes, it works, but good luck, take your time, and don't : ever dare to add some more peripherals which need drivers... or take : the time again. : If DOS/Windows does everything you want your computer to do, fine! : I don't try to persuade anyone to turn away from a working equipment. : I just want to tell those people who do want to work with their : computers (instead of doing a full-time-job configuring them) that I : found a solution which works fine for me. : I am not pro-NeXT (well, at least not in the extreme), I just don't like : equipment that does not work, imagine a car sold with the following : instructions: : Yes, the new engine can be put in "enhanced mode", which : gives you some hundred percent more performance, but it : also uses a different kind of fuel, which is very difficult : to get (although it really is not); and the other parts of : the car were not really built to facilitate the engine being : run in enhanced mode. Therefore we recommend you to run your : engine in "compatibility mode". : ... that is about the reason why I am "anti-IBM". : Again, this is not meant to be a flame, I would just like to put : things a bit differently: : NeXT did make a mistake, that's right, they moved to unsuitable : hardware for NS and are now (apparently) not able to handle it. : IBM somehow managed to sell its "it-just-might-work...perhaps"- : Computers to about everyone... and now you blame NeXT for not : being able to cope with old-fashioned architecture restrictions. : Just wanted to say that, : Joe : -- : | Joachim Breuer | Usenet: | : | Weichselgartenstrasse 34a | jmbreuer@trek.nbg.sub.org | : | 91301 Forchheim +---------------------------+ : | Germany | Data: +49 9191 33915 |
From: "James Gaines" <p00378@psilink.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: EMAIL ON NeXTStep 3.0 Date: Wed, 08 Sep 93 23:37:25 -0600 Organization: GCC Message-ID: <2956631723.2.p00378@psilink.com> I own black hardware with NS3.0 running. What apps are available to access the Internet in a user-friendly manner? James
From: briggman@rock.concert.net (David B Briggman -- Personal Account) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: EMAIL ON NeXTStep 3.0 Date: 9 Sep 1993 07:24:02 GMT Organization: MCNC Center for Communications -- PUBLIC ACCESS UNIX Message-ID: <26mlmi$d4u@inxs.concert.net> References: <2956631723.2.p00378@psilink.com> There are two applications currently available although I have not used either. The first is Connect It! from Black Market Technologies, email info@bmt.gun.com and they apparently directly support PSI and many other providers. The second app is UUCP-EZ by Pharoh Computer in San Francisco...if any one has there EMAIL address, I am sure it would be appreciated. Dave -- Advanced Business Systems (919) 682-8553 [voice] 19 Joci Court (919) 682-1126 [fax] Durham, North Carolina 27704 briggman@rock.concert.net Intel - Digital - Epson - Goldstar - Hewlett Packard
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: outland!jmast@ms.uky.edu (John A. Mastrolia) Subject: Re: E mail to Rightbrain software Message-ID: <CD2IAw.1BL@outland.uucp> Sender: jmast@outland.uucp (John A. Mastrolia) Organization: Kentucky NeXT Users Group (KYNUG) References: <1993Sep2.124406.23688@news.lrz-muenchen.de> Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1993 03:42:31 GMT In article <1993Sep2.124406.23688@news.lrz-muenchen.de> bauer@galilei.lbm.mw.tu-muenchen.de (Sebastian Bauer) writes: > In article <264k38$iii@hermod.uio.no> edbson@sionext.uio.no (Stein > Onsrud) writes: > > Anyone got the E mail to Rightbrain software ? > > info@rightbrain.com > > -- > Sebastian Bauer (bauer@lbm.mw.tu-muenchen.de) RightBrain is moving until 15 September. This was on their answering machine when I attempted to call last week. -- John A. Mastrolia (Politically, Fashionably, and Aerodynamically Incorrect)
From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: EMAIL ON NeXTStep 3.0 Date: 9 Sep 1993 11:01:46 -0400 Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742 Message-ID: <26nggq$n2b@seine.cs.umd.edu> References: <2956631723.2.p00378@psilink.com> In article <2956631723.2.p00378@psilink.com> "James Gaines" <p00378@psilink.com> writes: > I own black hardware with NS3.0 running. What apps are available to > access the Internet in a user-friendly manner? as someone pointed out there are apps to get you connected easily: Connect It! and UUCP-EZ since you asked for a user-friendly Internet: once on, you might try the GUI versions of many of the command line tools: Gator-FTP, and NXArchie provide NEXTSTEP front ends for ftp and archie. there is a also NeXT front end for WAIS. I don't know about gopher or WWW. there are also NEXTSTEP newsreaders: NewsGrazer and NewsBase most of this can be found on sonata.cc.purdue.edu -- Alex Blakemore alex@cs.umd.edu NeXT mail accepted -------------------------------------------------------------- "Without an engaged and motivated human being at the keyboard, the computer is just another dumb box." William Raspberry
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mark@xexos.com (Mark Chamberlain) Subject: Re: Kapiti Limited, makers of FIST - The Complete Dealing Room System Message-ID: <1993Sep3.173250.14163@xexos.com> Sender: news@xexos.com Organization: Xexos, Ltd (London) References: <1993Sep2.085112.5929@cubx.com> Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1993 17:32:50 GMT In article <1993Sep2.085112.5929@cubx.com> ed@cubx.com (Erik Dasque) writes: > Hi, > > I am looking for a contact number for Kapiti Limited, makers of FIST - The > Complete Dealing Room System. The number in the OBJECTWARE catalog (page > 55) : (071) 587 0033 doesn't seem to correspond to any country or location > on the planet Earth. > > Does anyone know if this company actually exist ? > Yeah, they exist. 071 is a London number. Drop the 0, and add 44. Mark -- Mark Chamberlain +44 71 237 4535 Xexos Ltd fax +44 71 231 0844 London mark@xexos.com
From: wonko@rock.concert.net (Jason L Rahaim -- Personal Account) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: TERM Date: 9 Sep 1993 16:40:54 GMT Organization: MCNC Center for Communications -- PUBLIC ACCESS UNIX Message-ID: <26nmam$lu9@inxs.concert.net> Has Anyone managed to get TERM (The program that simulates an internet connection over a modem) to work under 3.1 (Intel)? Jason Rahaim
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) Subject: Re: NeXT TeX Message-ID: <1993Sep9.173327.18201@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> Sender: news@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (NetNews) Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany References: <1993Sep8.144401.21797@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu> <26l2ja$31r@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu> Date: Thu, 9 Sep 93 17:33:27 GMT Hal.Varian@umich.edu wrote: : In article <1993Sep8.144401.21797@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu> : carlip@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Walter C3arlip) writes: : > : > Our NeXt station came with a nice implementation of TeX distributed : > as a tar file called NeXT-TeX. Is there a new version available : > by ftp anywhare (perhaps one that will build TeX with NFSS and AMSLaTeX)? : > : This is on the 3.1 upgrade disk. What do you mean with 3.1 upgrade disk ? Is there something new that I missed ? The NeXTTeX.pkg on the 3.1 Users Enviroment CD-ROM includes just Plain TeX and LaTeX (2.09). But it's just a matter of minutes to install AMSLaTeX and NFSS if you go and get the original packages from the AMS (e.g. ftp to e-math.ams.com:/ams/amslatex). I've not yet heard that there's an upgrade DISK for 3.1. If I'm wrong please correct me. Gregor | Gregor Hoffleit admin MATHInet / contact HeidelNeXT | | MAIL: Mathematisches Institut PHONE: (49)6221 56-5771 | | INF 288, 69120 Heidelberg, Germany FAX: 56-3812 | | EMAIL: flight@vogon.mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (NeXTmail) | \O__x ride o o it!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: ed@cubx.com (Erik Dasque) Subject: Soft PC .hdfd files, dumb question Message-ID: <1993Sep9.130824.22602@cubx.com> Sender: news@cubx.com Organization: Cub'x Systemes - Rueil Malmaison, France. References: <1993Sep8.013704.1195@stone.com> Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1993 13:08:24 GMT Has anyone succedeed using the .hdfd files in SoftPC.app (The one that Insignia has put onto the NS/68k User CD-ROM) SoftPC doesn't seem to like those .hdfd (it looks for .hdf files, like those in my old beta, which work with the new SoftPC) Are those Insignia PC-Hard Disk files, how do you use them ? P.S. (Changing therir name to *.hdf doesn't work...) Ed.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: yut@haley.ecn.purdue.edu (Greg Yut) Subject: Re: Mathematica related documents style Message-ID: <CD3uJJ.59J@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> Sender: news@noose.ecn.purdue.edu (USENET news) Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network References: <26hiq4$k4h@vega.info.isbiel.ch> <965@blue.cis.pitt.edu> Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1993 21:04:31 GMT In article <965@blue.cis.pitt.edu> djh@next11.math.pitt.edu (dj hebert) writes: >In article <26hiq4$k4h@vega.info.isbiel.ch> droux@info.isbiel.ch (Nicolas >Droux) writes: >> >> Does somebody knows if the style used to write these papers is publicly >> available ? And if it is the case, is it available for LaTeX ? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Nicolas Droux. > > >Cameron Smith has a Notebook to TeX converter called csnb2tex >described in his recent article in the Mathematica Journal v3 summer 1993. >He says it is available from MathSource, i.e. the anonymous >ftp site mathsource.wri.com, but I dont know where to look among the >large number of directories there. > >-DJ Hebert > My MathSource directory has the following entry: 0203-768: Notebook to TeX Converter for NeXT Platforms (November 1992) It also has similar entries for Mac and Sun. To get started, send the email message 'Help Intro' to mathsource@wri.com. The response should tell you how to retrieve this and other material from MathSource. Greg
From: bagera@hifnext.lbl.gov (Christopher A. Friesen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: tty emulation when logging into the next from other systems... Date: 9 Sep 1993 22:29:47 GMT Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory, Berkeley CA Distribution: world Message-ID: <26oaor$d1t@overload.lbl.gov> When logging into the next workstations in our research group from a machine other than a NeXT the text displayed does not behave. It will not consistantly start at the left side of the display, but is often moved to the right in steps, each following line getting moved to the right by a chunk of white space. What is the fix? thanks -chris
From: scwg0600@ih-nxt01.cso.uiuc.edu (Steven C Weintz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: DXF to EPS Utility Date: 9 Sep 1993 22:33:28 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <26oavo$6nd@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <1993Sep1.185131.23114@pencom.com> Keywords: NeXT, conversion utilities, graphics In article <1993Sep1.185131.23114@pencom.com> kkoym@pencom.com writes: > > > A while back there was a utility on the NeXT that converted DXF to EPS. It is > not listed in the Third Party Catalog for Winter 1992 or Spring 1993. > > Does anyone remember who had it, what it cost, and where to get it from? Like > I said it was a simple utility for converting between the two. > > Any info would be appreciated. Please respond directly to me here at: > kkoym@pencom.com. I'll piggyback on this thread and ask for pointers, tips and such for a whole raft of converter utilities. I've found promising-looking things in the archives, but I'm looking to put together a suite of tools for sending output seamlessly to the mac-equipped service bureaus in town, as well as digest GIS and USGS data for proper map work. Besides the Convert utilities and the pbm plus stuff, and PixelMagician (Bacchus, expect an order soon!), what else is out there? DXF is such a common format that converters should pop up everywhere. I like what Gestel Italia and Ares have done with their products; both will read DXF, Wavefront, and some other formats as well as RIB, and ZZvolume will output DXF as well. Any comments? Steve Weintz
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: PF1 -- PF4 keys in NS3.1 Terminal.app? Message-ID: <1993Sep9.175110.2641@yvax.byu.edu> From: john@kolob.byu.edu (John Peterson) Date: 9 Sep 93 17:51:10 -0700 References: <26lr7b$j9m@pith.uoregon.edu> Try the numbers 1-4 on the keypad--that's what works on NS/I. (Although it's still ugly!) In article <26lr7b$j9m@pith.uoregon.edu> writes: > Dear NeXT users, > > I recently upgraded to NeXTSTEP 3.1 on my NeXTSTATION. With this came a > new Terminal.app -- and new problems. Using Terminal as a VT100 emulator, > with the keypad in "appliation" mode, used to work, but not any more > (well, it works partly, but not quite like a VT100). > > After reading the documentation (without luck) and trying quite a number > of different combinations of Alt, Command, Shift etc. together with the > four top keys on my keypad (`=/*) I have so far been unable to generate > the appropriate codes for PF1 through PF4. Is there a trick to this? Can > it be done (and if so, PLEASE tell me!)? > > And if PF1-PF4 are "unrecoverable", can I go back to the 3.0 Terminal > (which worked) under 3.1? > > Thanks for any help in this -- I will of course summarize any responses. > > Audun S. Runde > Statistical Programmer/Consultant > University of Oregon Computing Center > Eugene, OR 97403 -- John Peterson -- Networked Computer Support -- Brigham Young University Internet: John_Peterson@byu.edu Phone: (801) 378-5007
From: keiblin@cs.tu-berlin.de (Alexander Keiblinger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Anyone got rz/sz working on NSI ? Date: 10 Sep 1993 00:25:36 GMT Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <26ohi0$pi2@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hy there, my little C knowledge was not enough to compile Z-Modem on NSI. Seems to be a problem with the funny include-scheme. Any hints ? -- "I'm sorry Dave, but I can't do that"
From: terryt@cs.athabascau.ca (Terry Tanski) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: AI packages for the Next Message-ID: <2984@aupair.cs.athabascau.ca> Date: 10 Sep 93 02:22:55 GMT Followup-To: poster Organization: Athabasca University Hi everyone, I am posting this for a friend. Can anyone suggest any good AI packages, purchased or public domain/shareware, for the Next? Please reply via mail since I don't follow this group. Thanks in advance, Terry Tanski ********* Terry Tanski, B.Sc. ********** . **** Athabasca University - Computing Services .. **** Box 10,000 .... **** Athabasca, Alberta CANADA ..........**** terryt@cs.athabascau.ca
From: terryt@cs.athabascau.ca (Terry Tanski) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: AI packages for the Next Message-ID: <2986@aupair.cs.athabascau.ca> Date: 10 Sep 93 02:29:08 GMT References: <2984@aupair.cs.athabascau.ca> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Athabasca University To be more specific, here is the request my friend gave me. Could you please send a query out into the net or wherever it is you read stuff from/to regarding if anyone knows of an expert system (that actually works ... and well) for the NeXTstation turbo (grey scale - megapixle) Terry ********* Terry Tanski, B.Sc. ********** . **** Athabasca University - Computing Services .. **** Box 10,000 .... **** Athabasca, Alberta CANADA ..........**** terryt@cs.athabascau.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jrhoads@netcom.com (Jason Rhoads) Subject: SLIP for NS on Intel Message-ID: <jrhoadsCD4A2u.I6D@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1993 02:40:06 GMT Now that we have a new serial port driver, does anyone know when slip will be available? jrhoads@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jrhoads@netcom.com (Jason Rhoads) Subject: ZOOM V.32 & NS Intel Message-ID: <jrhoadsCD4CnC.C4q@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1993 03:35:35 GMT Has anyone got a Zoom V.32 (14.4K baud) modem to send and receive faxes correctly? I thought all Group 3 fax/modems were compatible - but I guessed wrong. Until today I thought it was because of the serial driver that was buggy. I tested it with the new driver (1326_serialportdriver) still no dice. Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated. jrhoads@netcom.com
From: 0603dp35@uhdvx3.dt.uh.edu (Zaldivar, Edward) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Dos/NeXtstep Date: 10 Sep 1993 00:19 CST Organization: University of Houston-Downtown Sender: 0603dp35@uhdvx3.dt.uh.edu (Zaldivar, Edwar) Distribution: world Message-ID: <10SEP199300194725@uhdvx3.dt.uh.edu> News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.42 Is it possible to have Dos and NeXtstep on the same HD? If so is it possible to have a choice at bootup? Any answers will be appreciated
From: isbell@cats.ucsc.edu (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Archived software problems Date: 10 Sep 1993 05:45:03 GMT Organization: Cubic Solutions - NeXT software development and consulting Message-ID: <26p48vINNfi5@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> I've just spent 2 HOURS (!!) downloading a demo from a NeXT archive and have spent another half hour substituting the non-standard NEXTSTEP fonts in the 8.8 MB User manual with Helvetica so the manual is readable (ever tried search and replace on an 8.8 MB file in Edit ?-( I have a really bad taste in my mouth about this demo app because of these hassles and I haven't even started the demo! So, please, when you post a demo or other software to an archive site, consider your likely users. I don't have high-speed connection to the Internet as I imagine many (most?) NeXT owners don't. I do have a 14.4 V.32bis modem, so I'm doing about as well as I can for bandwidth, but I just had to download over 6 MB of compressed files almost half of which I don't need for a demo. Much of the problem is due to MAB support. I'd like to suggest the several packages be placed on archives: 1. Source with no compiled files of any kind 2. Motorola binaries 3. Intel binaries 4. Documentation What I downloaded had 1-3 plus source and compiled examples in a single compressed package which covers just about all bases but about half of which many folks don't need, especially for demo testing. If I like the Motorola version, then I'll get the Intel version later and use lipo to combine them. At least 4 was in a separate file. And if you really want to make a good impression and increase the chances that you might actually receive money for a license, then take the time to produce a version of your documentation that uses standard NEXTSTEP fonts for those of us who are font-challenged (which I'll bet are the majority of NEXTSTEP owners). You can explain that the actual, better-looking documentation is available with the "good" fonts for those who have them. -- Art Isbell Cubic Solutions NeXT Registered Developer NEXTSTEP software development and consulting NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: +1 408 335 1154 USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: +1 408 335 2515
From: rogata@is-next.umd.edu (Richard Scott Ogata) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: tty emulation when logging into the next from other systems... Date: 10 Sep 1993 06:01:39 GMT Organization: University Of Maryland, College Park, MD Message-ID: <26p583$nvi@umd5.umd.edu> References: <26oaor$d1t@overload.lbl.gov> In article <26oaor$d1t@overload.lbl.gov> bagera@hifnext.lbl.gov (Christopher A. Friesen) writes: > > When logging into the next workstations in our research group from a >machine other than a NeXT the text displayed does not behave. It will not >consistantly start at the left side of the display, but is often moved to the >right in steps, each following line getting moved to the right by a chunk of >white space. What is the fix? > >thanks >-chris stty -extproc ; tset Rich Ogata rogata@arpa.mil
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: eric@whyanext.whyanext.com (Eric Schwartz) Subject: Vacation daemon Message-ID: <ERIC.93Sep9231843@whyanext.whyanext.com> Sender: news@unix.portal.com Organization: WhyaNeXT, Inc. Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1993 07:18:43 GMT Can anyone recommend a good vacation daemon to run under NEXTSTEP 2.1? Thanks, Eric -- Eric Schwartz eric@whyanext.com (NeXTmail spoken here) Have you ever run into someone who was gruntled, ruly, or peccable?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software From: schwartz@mindvox.phantom.com (Dave Schwartz) Subject: NSintel and Canon bj-200 printer? Message-ID: <oZFN0B1w165w@mindvox.phantom.com> Originator: schwartz@mindvox Sender: news@mindvox.phantom.com Organization: [Phantom Access] / the MindVox system Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1993 07:00:35 GMT I have installed nextstep 3.1 and found that it only support postscript printers. Is there some sort of driver either public domain or commercially supported to allow the Canon BJ-200 to work under NS? its a very nice inkjet, supports 360dpi, and works well, if it did work under ns that is! -]Dave
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: schwartz@mindvox.phantom.com (Dave Schwartz) Subject: Image or WetPaint? Message-ID: <giHN0B1w165w@mindvox.phantom.com> Originator: schwartz@mindvox Sender: news@mindvox.phantom.com Organization: [Phantom Access] / the MindVox system Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1993 07:33:27 GMT I am interested in image editing under NS Intel, in looking at the thirdparty disk supplied I see two programs in particular that interest me. These being WetPaint and Image. Can anyone who is using either one of these give me their views on why one is better over the other? Also is there a photoshop available under NS yet? thank you -]Dave
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: schwartz@mindvox.phantom.com (Dave Schwartz) Subject: GIF MPEG GL Grasp on NS/Intel? Message-ID: <qJHN0B2w165w@mindvox.phantom.com> Originator: schwartz@mindvox Sender: news@mindvox.phantom.com Organization: [Phantom Access] / the MindVox system Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1993 07:34:13 GMT I'm new to the NeXTSTEP Intel system, what graphics tools are available for NS on white hardware that support reading and writing the various file formats (gif, jpg, pcx, etc), and what kind of support is there for the MPEG, GL and Grasp formats? Public domain or commercial are of about equal interest, if something is really exceptional I'm happy to pay for it, but if its just simple and loads files and is public domain that would be useful too. thank you in advance -]Dave
From: mycroft@monolith.utexas.edu (Alex Currier) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: A humble request... Date: 10 Sep 1993 07:31:46 GMT Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas Message-ID: <26pah2$c8u@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> I have something of a favor to ask. I own a cube and no floppy drive and I need a copy of the UpgradePrep.app from the floppy disk which accompanys the NS3.0 CD-ROM. In addition to that, I have a brand new copy of Lotus Improv sitting on my bookshelf being unused because I can't load the software onto my machine. Basically what I am asking here is for some kind soul with a few megs of drive space to spare for a few hours to please make these items available to me via ftp. I already have the 3.0 release (and upgradeprep would be useless anyway if I didn't) and all I need of Improv is the un-serialized software, I already have my own serial number. Given that I am not asking someone to break any laws here (please correct me if I am) I would deeply appreciate this favor. If you are willing to help me here please reply to the net so that others who might also offer to help will not do so needlessly. Thank you. -- ==================================== Alex Currier mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu Laugh while you can, Monkeyboy. NeXTmail preferred! ====================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bebeada@elof.acc.iit.edu (Adam Beberg) Subject: FSP client for NS 3.1....?? Message-ID: <1993Sep10.084858.8569@iitmax.iit.edu> Sender: news@iitmax.iit.edu (News) Organization: Illinois Institute of Technology, Chicago Date: Fri, 10 Sep 93 08:48:58 GMT Greetings NeXTStep users... i need to get FSP working on a NeXT cube with NS 3.1 i got the source but got a bunch of errors from _really_ wierd stuff.. i was wondering if anyone out there could mail/NeXTMail me the modified for NeXT sources...it would be highly appreciated.... - Adam Beberg. Golden Sphinx (tm) bebeada@elof.iit.edu NeXTMail Welcome. ))) In Sterio Where Available (((
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) Subject: Re: Soft PC .hdfd files, dumb question Message-ID: <1993Sep9.215334.22322@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: Stanford University References: <1993Sep9.130824.22602@cubx.com> Date: Thu, 9 Sep 93 21:53:34 GMT Erik Dasque writes > Has anyone succedeed using the .hdfd files in SoftPC.app (The > one that Insignia has put onto the NS/68k User CD-ROM) SoftPC > doesn't seem to like those .hdfd (it looks for .hdf files, like > those in my old beta, which work with the new SoftPC) > > Are those Insignia PC-Hard Disk files, how do you use them ? I haven't had much luck getting this demo to work consistently, but to get around this particular problem, just create a new hard disk using the preferences panel in SoftPC. If i remember correctly, that should do the trick; its been a while since I had the same problem. Also make sure you've selected a sufficiently large amount of RAM you want SoftPC to see; low values also seem to hang it. The times I've succeeded in making this demo run, it has successfully run every bit of DOS or Windows software that I've thrown at it, and performance on my 25MHz mono slab has been quite acceptable. But actually getting it to launch into Windows is very much a hit or miss affair. I wish it did launch reliably; it would be real useful to use it to show DOS/Windows users that under NeXTSTEP they'd still have access to all their old software. When I'm demoing NeXTSTEP to Mac users, I always bring up Executor and watch them stare goggle-eyed. Wish I could do the same to DOS/Windows users, but methinks bringing up an app that hangs or worse isn't going to be terribly convinving. -- - Stefano Pagiola Food Research Institute, Stanford University spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged) spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
Newsgroups: sci.math.symbolic,comp.sys.next.software From: jensting@ic.ac.uk (Jens Tingleff) Subject: Re: Mathematica related documents style (LONG) Message-ID: <1993Sep10.104716.12726@cc.ic.ac.uk> Keywords: TeX/Mathematica Organization: Elec. Eng. Imperial College, London References: <26hiq4$k4h@vega.info.isbiel.ch> Date: Fri, 10 Sep 93 10:47:16 BST In article <26hiq4$k4h@vega.info.isbiel.ch>, droux@info.isbiel.ch (Nicolas Droux) writes: > > We are actually writing the manual of a project which is controlled by the > user from Mathematica. It would be very preferable for us, and for the > future users of our system, to use the same documenting style as most > Mathematica related documents such as Wolfram's book, Mathematica > conference's article and other WRI papers. The TeX-mathematica system does quite a lot of what you want. INparticular, it defines boxes around you Mathematica input examples, in Emacs you can call up Mathematica to reevaluate the expressions, etc etc. Here's the README file ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- TeX/Mathematica is a set of tools that provide facilities of Mathematica Notebooks in a UNIX environment, under GNU Emacs. They permit interaction between a text and a Mathematica buffer and, if desired, the use of TeX/LaTeX to annotate Mathematica-based explorations and programs. Inclusion of Mathematica-generated graphics in TeX/LaTeX documents printed using PostScript is supported. The tools also support the automatic generation of Mathematica packages from Mathematica documents. With these tools one can interactively develop and refine teaching and research documents. The interactive nature of the tools encourages Mathematica-based exploration as a natural part of the writing process. Getting TeX/Mathematica *********************** The TeX/Mathematica tools are available from Internet host `chem.bu.edu' [128.197.30.18] by anonymous `ftp' in directory `/pub/tex-mathematica'. The author can be reached at Internet address `dan@chem.bu.edu'. The `ftp' directory contains four files * `README', which duplicates the information in this node. * `CHANGES', which describes changes that have been made. * `tex-mma-j.ps.Z', the compressed PostScript documentation/example. * `tex-mma.tar.Z', the TeX/Mathematica distribution kit (includes the first three files). In addition to these files, the directory `/pub/matrix-mechanics' contains the source of a paper written with TeX/Mathematica. It illustrates package generation from a TeX/Mathematica document (*Note Packages::). See the file `README' there for further details. LaTeX description of TeX/Mathematica ==================================== The PostScript document `tex-mma-j.ps.Z' is derived from the LaTeX description of TeX/Mathematica. Transfer the document from the `ftp' directory in binary (image) mode and then print it with zcat tex-mma-j.ps.Z | lpr The source for this document is the LaTeX file `tex-mma-j.tex' and the BibTeX file `tex-mma-j.bib'. You can use `tex-mma-j.tex' as a LaTeX example of a TeX/Mathematica document. Files in the distribution kit ============================= The file `tex-mma.tar.Z' contains the TeX/Mathematica tools. These consist of the following: Documentation things: * `tex-mma.texinfo', Texinfo documentation of TeX/Mathematica * `tex-mma.ps.Z', compressed Texinfo document formatted with TeX into PostScript * `tex-mma.info', Info file (this file) for on-line Emacs documentation * `tex-mma-j.tex', LaTeX description/example of TeX/Mathematica * `tex-mma-j.bib', BibTeX file for `tex-mma-j.tex' * `tex-mma-j.ps.Z', compressed LaTeX documentation formatted in PostScript * `sin3x.ps', Mathematica-generated figure included in `tex-mma-j.tex' * `tex-mma-tex.tex', TeX example of TeX/Mathematica * `texinfo.tex', TeX macros used to format `tex-mma.texinfo' GNU Emacs things: * `tex-mma.el', the `tex-mathematica' package * `math.el', David Jacobson's Mathematica mode package (*Note math::) * `unix-tex-mma.el', example implementation of cell-type `unix' TeX/LaTeX things: * `mathematica10pt.tex', TeX 10 point TeX/Mathematica interface * `mathematica12pt.tex', TeX 12 point TeX/Mathematica interface * `mathematica.sty', LaTeX generic TeX/Mathematica interface * `mathematica.tex', macros for formatting TeX/Mathematica documents, used by the preceding files * `mathematicag.sty', `mathematicag.tex', `mma-tex-mma.tex' and `unix-tex-mma.tex' are as alternatives to `mathematica.sty' and `mathematica.tex' for multiple-cell types. *Note Macros::. Shell scripts and Mathematica commands for processing graphics, and shell script and template file for Mathematica package assembly: * `PSTeX.m', generates `psfig'-adapted graphics to a file, without PostScript prolog * `addBBox', shell script called by `PSTeX' * `PSTeXpro.m', generates `psfig'-adapted graphics to a file, with PostScript prolog * `addBBoxpro', shell script called by `PSTeXpro' * `addBBoxpro.awk', `awk' script called by `addBBoxpro' * `PSFile.m', generates full-page graphics to a file, with PostScript prolog * `tex-mma-assemble-package', shell script for Mathematica package assembly * `tex-mma-assemble-package.tmplt', Emacs Lisp template used by `tex-mma-assemble-package' This is from Cameron Smith (*Note addBBox::): * `mma.pro.1.2', Mathematica Version 1.2 PostScript prolog. Note that a different prolog will be needed for Mathematica Version 2.0. This will be available from the author (*Note Getting tex-math::). These are from Trevor Darrell's `psfig/tex' distribution (*Note psfig::): * `psfig.pro', `psfig' PostScript prolog. * `psfig.sty', `psfig' for LaTeX. * `psfig.tex', `psfig' for TeX. Installation procedure ====================== 1. Transfer `tex-mma.tar.Z' in binary (image) mode into an empty directory, and extract its contents, with (for example) zcat tex-mma.tar.Z | tar xvf - 2. Install the Info on-line documentation file `tex-mma.info' where your Emacs looks for Info file. If desired, add a pointer to it to your Info directory file so that it will appear in the Info top-level menu. The source for `tex-mma.info' is `tex-mma.texinfo'. The file `tex-mma.ps.Z' is the compressed TeX formatted version, made using the `texinfo.tex' included in the distribution (see the beginning of `tex-mma.texinfo' for directions). The formatted version can be printed with zcat tex-mma.ps.Z | lpr It contains complete details of the TeX/Mathematica tools. 3. Edit `tex-mma.el' to * set `tex-mma-process-string' to the command you use to start Mathematica (default is `math'); * set `tex-mma-info-file' to point to where you put the file `tex-mma.info' * set `tex-mma-temp-dir' to the directory to be used for cell assembly 4. Run `M-x byte-compile' on `tex-mma.el' and store the resulting `tex-mma.elc' wherever your GNU Emacs looks for files. 5. Add the following to the GNU Emacs initialization file (autoload 'tex-mathematica "tex-mma" "Major-mode for interaction with Mathematica from TeX." t) (autoload 'plain-tex-mathematica "tex-mma" "Major-mode for interaction with Mathematica from TeX." t) (autoload 'latex-mathematica "tex-mma" "Major-mode for interaction with Mathematica from TeX." t) 6. If you do not have David Jacobson's Mathematica mode package `math.el', install it following the instructions in `math.el'. If you do have `math.el', make sure your version is at least as current as the one here, which contains changes necessary for use with `tex-mma.el'. Make sure you place the file `math.el' (or, better, the byte-compiled file `math.elc') where your Emacs looks for libraries, so that `tex-mma.elc' will be able to load it if it is not already loaded. 7. Edit `mathematica.tex' (at the end) to specify where the PostScript prolog files `psfig.pro' and `mma.pro.1.2' will be, and put the prolog files there. 8. If you are using a LaTeX *earlier* than 2 May 90, edit `mathematica.sty' according to the comments there. 9. Put `mathematica.tex', `mathematica.sty', `mathematica12pt.tex', `mathematica10pt.tex', `psfig.sty', and `psfig.tex' where your TeX looks for macro files. 10. Put `PSTeX.m', `PSTeXpro.m' and `PSFile.m' where your Mathematica looks for packages. 11. Edit `addBBoxpro' to specify which `awk' you use (default is GNU awk, `gawk'). 12. Edit `tex-mma-assemble-package' to set the variables `bindir', `tmpdir' and `tmpdirsed' for your system, as described in the comments there and then place `tex-mma-assemble-package.tmplt' in `bindir'. 13. Put `addBBox', `addBBoxpro', `addBBoxpro.awk' and `tex-mma-assemble-package' on your system's binary search path, make sure they have execute status, and then execute `rehash'. You should be ready to go: Startup emacs, run `M-x tex-mathematica' and have fun. Note: The output marker has been changed in this version (1.31) from a blank line to a `.' line. Use C-c h, *Note Marker:: for how to convert documents prepared with earlier versions to the new non-blank marker (recommended), or how to change the default marker back to a blank line (*not* recommended). -- Mr Jens Tingleff, M.Sc.EE. PhD student at Imperial College, Dept of EE, Exhibition Road, London SW7 2BT, England jensting@ic.ac.uk or jensting@dinghy.ee.ic... (used to be jensting@diku.dk) "you can't live here like this, 'cause your man he ain't gonna like it" JJ Cale
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: fms@chemelex .com (Fred Schenkelberg) Subject: vt340 emulator Message-ID: <CD3qGr.221@chemelex.com> Sender: fms@chemelex.com (Fred Schenkelberg) Organization: Research Group of Chemelex Division of Raychem Corporation Distribution: ba,na,usa,world Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1993 19:36:27 GMT Hi, I'm looking for a vt340 emulator for a cube. Know of one? Thanks, --- Fred Schenkelberg fms@chemelex.com -- Fred Schenkelberg
From: gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: SBook Upgrades Date: 10 Sep 1993 14:26:35 GMT Organization: University of Maryland, College Park Message-ID: <26q2qr$4vm@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> Has anyone obtained the new vers. (3.1) of SBook from Sarrus Software? I emailed them twice to the address they give, but they are keeping as silent as a clam (and I'm not happy as one). I ask because apparently they've added support for printers other than the Next laser: that is, envelopes can be fed horizontally (most printers I know, including my Laserjet 4M) instead of Next-vertically. SBook EXISTS for envelopes, in my opinion. Thanks Robert de Lucca
Newsgroups: sci.math.symbolic,comp.sys.next.software From: umyin@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Qing Yin) Subject: Re: Mathematica related documents style (LONG) Message-ID: <CD5757.7Kw@ccu.umanitoba.ca> Keywords: TeX/Mathematica Sender: news@ccu.umanitoba.ca Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada References: <26hiq4$k4h@vega.info.isbiel.ch> <1993Sep10.104716.12726@cc.ic.ac.uk> Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1993 14:34:19 GMT This is great! Thanks you for posting this information. -- Vincent Q. Yin umyin@ccu.umanitoba.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,alt.binaries.pictures.utilities From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) Subject: Re: GIF MPEG GL Grasp on NS/Intel? Message-ID: <1993Sep10.152938.10976@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: Stanford University References: <qJHN0B2w165w@mindvox.phantom.com> Date: Fri, 10 Sep 93 15:29:38 GMT Dave Schwartz writes > > I'm new to the NeXTSTEP Intel system, what graphics tools are > available for NS on white hardware that support reading and > writing the various file formats (gif, jpg, pcx, etc), and what > kind of support is there for the MPEG, GL and Grasp formats? > There's a PD app called ImageViewer that supports most common graphics formats (list appended at end of this post). I'm not sure if its been recompiled for NS/Intel, though. There's also a commercial app, PixelMagician, that adds several more standards to the list, has more write support, and a more polished interface. There are two MPEG players (see the FAQ in alt.binaries.pictures.utilities) for NS, but again I'm not sure they've been compiled for NS/Intel. I believe at least one of them has full source, though, so if you have the NS developer system you should be able to compile them yourself. Formats supported by ImageViewer 0.9i: Filetype Desciption Operations atkras Andrew Rasterfiles (binary and ascii) read gif Graphics Interchange Format read itex ITEX Framegrabber Files read write pbm Jef Poskanzer's Portable Bitmaps (binary) read write pgm Jef Poskanzer's Portable Graymaps (binary) read write ppm Jef Poskanzer's Portable Pixmaps (binary) read write jpg3 JPEG File Interchange Format (JFIF) read write macp1 MacPaint Documents read write mtek Mikrotek Scanner Files read eps PostScript Encapsulated Files read write ps PostScript (plain) write ras2 Sun Rasterfiles read write rle UTAH Run-length Encoded Rasterfiles read icon Sun Icon Files (old and new format) read write tiff Tagged Image File Format read write face USENET Face Files read write xbm X11 Bitmaps read write ilisp Xerox Interlisp-D Source read brush Xerox Brush/Press Files read ais Xerox Array of Intensity Samples read -- - Stefano Pagiola Food Research Institute, Stanford University spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged) spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
From: fateman@peoplesparc.Berkeley.EDU (Richard J Fateman) Newsgroups: sci.math.symbolic,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mathematica related documents style (LONG) Date: 10 Sep 1993 16:04:57 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Message-ID: <26q8j9$h43@agate.berkeley.edu> References: <26hiq4$k4h@vega.info.isbiel.ch> <1993Sep10.104716.12726@cc.ic.ac.uk> <CD5757.7Kw@ccu.umanitoba.ca> Keywords: TeX/Mathematica I doubt that this package is what the original enquirer was looking for. The TeX-mma stuff provides lots of "stuff", but at least when I last looked at it, almost none of it provided templates to make your document look consistent with Wolfram's style (e.g. font selection, chapter formats, headers, footers, indexing, figures). And it was rather bulky and complicated to install and use, for what it provided (essentially a macro for "mathematica commands" that was like verbatim mode in latex, and a macro for inserting ps figures). Some of the complication is to deal with the many variations of TeX that might be encountered. Presumably WRI or the mathematica journal people could make the right TeX style file available to an author, since they seem to like a consistent view. WRI hasn't said anything though. Some people might like you to think that you must have a NeXT computer to to duplicate the WRI style. This seems unlikely. What I've found useful, in the unix environment, is Jacobson's math.el file (math mode for emacs). If you run that, inserting TeX or plaintext equations and commands into a paper is simple. Executing commands in a paper by putting them into mathematica is also easy. Inserting figures is doable, but hairy, even with TeX-mma. (caveat: I haven't used TeX-mma in several years, and it may have changed.) RJF -- Richard J. Fateman fateman@cs.berkeley.edu 510 642-1879
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Klaus@ideal.muc.de (Klaus Bscheid) Subject: Re: Can't write to DOS floppy Message-ID: <1993Sep10.165712.848@ideal.muc.de> Sender: me@ideal.muc.de (Klaus Bscheid) Organization: Eversmile References: <mosscrp-080993084600@cc-k-box17.cc.umanitoba.ca> Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1993 16:57:12 GMT In article <mosscrp-080993084600@cc-k-box17.cc.umanitoba.ca> mosscrp@ccu.umanitoba.ca (David R. Mosscrop) writes: > Hi; > I have black hardware, running 3.0. > I can't write files to a DOS floppy. > The DOS floppy appears in WM and I can read from it. > I have even tried ;mv file /'dos floppy'/file and I get the same error. > The error is: > File error for /'DOS floppy name'/file: Invalid argument > > This is really bugging me, can any one help! > Thanks > David R. Mosscrop > > Programmer Analyst > University of Manitoba > Geography Department > > mosscrp@ccu.umanitoba.ca I guess to remember that I had such a problem when I wrote in uppercase letters. Try it. klaus -- ____________________________________________________________ Klaus Bscheid, klaus@ideal.muc.de, voice/fax: +49 89 3103829 Germany, 85716 Unterschleissheim, Sportplatzstrasse 7
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) Subject: Re: Can't write to DOS floppy Message-ID: <1993Sep10.182810.16661@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: Stanford University References: <1993Sep10.165712.848@ideal.muc.de> Date: Fri, 10 Sep 93 18:28:10 GMT David R. Mosscrop writes: > I have black hardware, running 3.0. I can't write files to a > DOS floppy. The DOS floppy appears in WM and I can read from > it. I have even tried ;mv file /'dos floppy'/file and I get > the same error. The error is: File error for /'DOS floppy > name'/file: Invalid argument > > This is really bugging me, can any one help! Make sure the files you're trying to copy adhere to DOS naming conventions (8.3) and are in all *lower-case* letters. Why NeXT didn't put in a simple filter that at least changes the case of the letters automagically, and perhaps also transforms file names to 8.3 (eg like SoftPC does), is a mystery to me. This is one of those things that should `just work.' -- - Stefano Pagiola Food Research Institute, Stanford University spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged) spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: lacsap@media.mit.edu (Pascal Chesnais) Subject: World Wide Web NeXTStep front end for 3.1 Message-ID: <1993Sep10.190518.2279@news.media.mit.edu> Sender: news@news.media.mit.edu (USENET News System) Organization: MIT Media Laboratory Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1993 19:05:18 GMT Is there one around? Or does someone know where the 3.0 sources can be found so I can do a port of them? thanks, pasc
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Scott Byer <byer@mv.us.adobe.com> Subject: Re: Image or WetPaint? Message-ID: <1993Sep10.202028.15348@adobe.com> Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS) Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated References: <giHN0B1w165w@mindvox.phantom.com> Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1993 20:20:28 GMT Dave Schwartz writes > I am interested in image editing under NS Intel, in looking at > the thirdparty disk supplied I see two programs in particular > that interest me. These being WetPaint and Image. Can anyone who > is using either one of these give me their views on why one is > better over the other? I've got Image. I liked the gradients better, and the interesting capabilities such as being able to "spray-paint" using a pattern or gradient (spray-painting with a gradient is broken though :-(. It has some annoying bugs, I'm not sure how long AppSoft is going to be around to support it (doing okay guys?). It's missing multi-tiff support, and some of it's filters are annoyingly slow. But the interface is Photoshop-like, the mask capabilities are nice. It's not quite as flexible on channel editing as it could be. Just try both demo versions. I don't think there are any "major" reasons for choosing on over the other. -- Scott Byer NeXTMail: byer@mv.us.adobe.com Adobe Systems Incorporated These are *my* opinions, and 1585 Charleston Road, P.O. Box 7900 do not necessarily reflect Mountain View, CA 94039-7900 the opinions of my employer. ---------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) Subject: Re: World Wide Web NeXTStep front end for 3.1 Message-ID: <1993Sep10.211705.21816@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: Stanford University References: <1993Sep10.190518.2279@news.media.mit.edu> Date: Fri, 10 Sep 93 21:17:05 GMT Pascal Chesnais writes > Is there one around? Or does someone know where the > 3.0 sources can be found so I can do a port of them? Yes, there is. The latest version I know of is 0.16. I don't remember where I got it; probably CERN. Try asking on comp.infosystems.www -- - Stefano Pagiola Food Research Institute, Stanford University spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged) spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
From: yygold@yadin.phyast.pitt.edu (Yadin Y. Goldschmidt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: PF1 -- PF4 keys in NS3.1 Terminal.app? Message-ID: <1223@blue.cis.pitt.edu> Date: 10 Sep 93 20:22:48 GMT References: <26lr7b$j9m@pith.uoregon.edu> Sender: news+@pitt.edu Audun S. Runde (audun@doek.uoregon.edu) wrote: : Dear NeXT users, : I recently upgraded to NeXTSTEP 3.1 on my NeXTSTATION. With this came a : new Terminal.app -- and new problems. Using Terminal as a VT100 emulator, : with the keypad in "appliation" mode, used to work, but not any more : (well, it works partly, but not quite like a VT100). : After reading the documentation (without luck) and trying quite a number : of different combinations of Alt, Command, Shift etc. together with the : four top keys on my keypad (`=/*) I have so far been unable to generate : the appropriate codes for PF1 through PF4. Is there a trick to this? Can : it be done (and if so, PLEASE tell me!)? : And if PF1-PF4 are "unrecoverable", can I go back to the 3.0 Terminal : (which worked) under 3.1? : Thanks for any help in this -- I will of course summarize any responses. : Audun S. Runde : Statistical Programmer/Consultant : University of Oregon Computing Center : Eugene, OR 97403 I had exactly the same problem and what I did was getting back the Terminal application from my 3.0 disk. It works fine !!! I don't know how to do it in 3.1. I wrote NeXT, but no answer. Yadin.
From: darcy@solutions.ca (Darcy Brockbank) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Where are curses symbols (i.e. 'A_UNDERLINE') defined? (try SysV) Date: 10 Sep 1993 23:16:03 GMT Organization: The Hutchison Avenue Software Corp. Message-ID: <26r1rj$2b3@amber.solutions.ca> References: <1993Sep5.034252.21160@sol.UVic.CA> In article <1993Sep5.034252.21160@sol.UVic.CA> mohenly@malahat.library.uvic.ca (Michael O'Henly) writes: > The second hurdle is this: the source refers to display attributes > like A_BLINK, A_UNDERLINE, etc. According to REDT's author, these are > standard objects and they should be defined in the curses header file. > I can't find them referred to anywhere in /usr/include/bsd/*.h. They are standard in SysV, not in BSD. NextStep is a BSD variant, and doesn't have those things. In any event, I went to War with Curses on NextStep and HPUX, and I came back heavily maimed, and barely able to walk anymore. I said, "No wonder they call it CURSES", Curses on Curses! My program was much more fluid, and much better overall when I just used the termcap entries to control the display myself. Much much better... - darcy
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: uli@zoodle.robin.de (Ulrich Grepel) Subject: Re: ANY news reader alread complied for Intel platform? Message-ID: <CD1pnz.17F@zoodle.robin.de> Sender: uli@zoodle.robin.de (Ulrich Grepel) Organization: meow!!! References: <26j0hi$6q2@pith.uoregon.edu> Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1993 17:23:58 GMT In article <26j0hi$6q2@pith.uoregon.edu> jfosback@darkwing.uoregon.edu (Jason Fosback) writes: > In article <CCu276.EE9@news.cis.umn.edu>, peter@corsica (Peter Eisch) > writes: > I have put a FAT copy of NewsBase v3.02 on cs.orst.edu in > /pub/next/sumissions and on ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de in > /pub/next/submissions as NewsBase302.FAT.compressed. > > NewsBase is a GUI newsreader similar to NewsGrazer. Please see the readme > files that are with the distribution. Does it support flat files? Or do I have to install an NNTP server on my not-networked machine? My last try with NewsBase (2.1.1) resultet in this need. BTW: Is there any GUI newsreader for the NeXT (black and white) that is able to use the ISO Latin-1 char set? Bye, Uli
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: stephane@planon.qc.ca Subject: Is there any Object-oriented design software for NS? Message-ID: <1993Sep10.191108.1331@CAM.ORG!planon> Sender: stephane@CAM.ORG!planon Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1993 19:11:08 GMT I would like to know if someone know of any Object-oriented design software for NEXTSTEP. There is some on Windows, dos, macintosh, sun... but i saw none on the best object-orinted platform! So, if anybody has saw something, please let me know! P.S. Please indicate which notation method does it use. Stephane Savard Director R&D Planon Telexpertise Inc. 1370 Joliot-Curie #708 Boucherville, Qu bec Canada, J4B 7L9 Email: stephane%planon@CAM.ORG (NeXTmail accepted and appreciated!)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: fleminmk@feserve.cc.purdue.edu (Michael K Fleming) Subject: Re: Anyone got rz/sz working on NSI ? Message-ID: <fleminmk.747706169@feserve.cc.purdue.edu> Sender: news@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (USENET News) Organization: Purdue University References: <26ohi0$pi2@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1993 00:09:29 GMT keiblin@cs.tu-berlin.de (Alexander Keiblinger) writes: >Hy there, >my little C knowledge was not enough to compile Z-Modem on NSI. Seems to >be a problem with the funny include-scheme. >Any hints ? Yeah, there was a little trick to it, as I remember. I had sucessfully compiled kermit and sz/rz....and both of them needed a little modding. I seem to remember a stupid #define causing the problem, but that could have been kermit... I never did get them working reliably, of course, because of the serial driver tragedy. Now, with the new drivers, kermit works flawless so I can only assume rz/sz do too. If you want, I can email them to you. If there's no fat sz/rz up on sonata and I get these working reliably, perhaps I'll put these up there too. (comments, anyone?) >-- > "I'm sorry Dave, but I can't do that"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) Subject: Re: FSP client for NS 3.1....?? Message-ID: <1993Sep11.011056.18389@csus.edu> Sender: news@csus.edu Organization: San Francisco State University References: <1993Sep10.084858.8569@iitmax.iit.edu> Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1993 01:10:56 GMT In article <1993Sep10.084858.8569@iitmax.iit.edu> bebeada@elof.acc.iit.edu (Adam Beberg) writes: >i need to get FSP working on a NeXT cube with NS 3.1 >i got the source but got a bunch of errors from _really_ wierd stuff.. I take it you don't get, don't know about, or don't read alt.comp.fsp? Here's a reposting. -=EPS=- ------- Nonstandard software required: gzip, patch NeXTSTEP 2.x: gzcat fsp.271.tar.gz|tar xvopBf - cd fsp patch -p <this-article setenv DEFS -bsd configure >>> edit Makefile to add -bsd to DEFS= line [The default compiler settings are inappropriate, as usual] >>> edit include/tweak.h to #undef HAVE_LOCKF [NeXT has both flock() and lockf()--they're incompatible] make merge Ignore the warnings: ranlib: warning: libcommon.a(random.o): no symbol table [random.o isn't needed] (many) warning: argument passing between incompatible pointer types [these are all signal type conflicts] N.B. I have not looked at the server side at all NEXTSTEP 3.1: same as above, except >>> edit Makefile to add -bsd -fno-builtin to DEFS= line (For MAB executable, also append -arch m68k -arch i386 to both DEFS= and EX_LIBS= lines) ------- *** setup.orig Fri Apr 16 19:36:56 1993 --- setup *************** *** 13,19 **** alias ffind \(set noglob\; exec ffindcmd \!\*\) alias fget \(set noglob\; exec fgetcmd \!\*\) alias fgrab \(set noglob\; exec fgrabcmd \!\*\) ! alias fhost 'eval `fhostcmd \!\*`' alias fless \(set noglob\; exec fcatcmd \!\* \| less\) alias fls \(set noglob\; exec flscmd \!\*\) alias fmore \(set noglob\; exec fcatcmd \!\* \| more\) --- 13,19 ---- alias ffind \(set noglob\; exec ffindcmd \!\*\) alias fget \(set noglob\; exec fgetcmd \!\*\) alias fgrab \(set noglob\; exec fgrabcmd \!\*\) ! alias fhost eval \`fhostcmd \!\*\` alias fless \(set noglob\; exec fcatcmd \!\* \| less\) alias fls \(set noglob\; exec flscmd \!\*\) alias fmore \(set noglob\; exec fcatcmd \!\* \| more\) *** bsd_src/find.c.orig Fri May 7 12:54:02 1993 --- bsd_src/find.c *************** *** 46,52 **** --- 46,54 ---- #include <sys/errno.h> #include <stdio.h> #include "my-string.h" + #ifndef __STRICT_BSD__ #include <stdlib.h> + #endif #include "find.h" extern int isoutput; *** bsd_src/fnmatch.c.orig Fri May 21 10:31:27 1993 --- bsd_src/fnmatch.c *************** *** 46,51 **** --- 46,54 ---- #endif #endif #include "my-string.h" + #ifndef NULLP + #define NULLP ((char *)0) + #endif #define EOS '\0' *************** *** 61,73 **** */ for (ok = 0; (c = *pattern++) != ']';) { ! if (c == EOS) return(NULL); /* illegal pattern */ if (*pattern == '-' && (c2 = pattern[1]) != EOS && c2 != ']') { if (c <= test && test <= c2) ok = 1; pattern += 2; } else if (c == test) ok = 1; } ! return(ok == negate ? NULL : pattern); } int fnmatch PROTO2(register char *, pattern, register char *, string) --- 64,76 ---- */ for (ok = 0; (c = *pattern++) != ']';) { ! if (c == EOS) return(NULLP); /* illegal pattern */ if (*pattern == '-' && (c2 = pattern[1]) != EOS && c2 != ']') { if (c <= test && test <= c2) ok = 1; pattern += 2; } else if (c == test) ok = 1; } ! return(ok == negate ? NULLP : pattern); } int fnmatch PROTO2(register char *, pattern, register char *, string) *************** *** 97,103 **** return(0); case '[': if ((test = *string++) == EOS) return(0); ! if ((pattern = rangematch(pattern, test)) == NULL) return(0); break; case '\\': if ((c = *pattern++) == EOS) { --- 100,106 ---- return(0); case '[': if ((test = *string++) == EOS) return(0); ! if ((pattern = rangematch(pattern, test)) == NULLP) return(0); break; case '\\': if ((c = *pattern++) == EOS) { *** man/man1/fgrabcmd.1.orig Tue Apr 20 23:23:06 1993 --- man/man1/fgrabcmd.1 *************** *** 1,4 **** ! .TH FGET 1 "27 January 1993" .SH NAME fgrabcmd, fgrab \- download files from the FSP database .SH SYNOPSIS --- 1,4 ---- ! .TH FGRAB 1 "27 January 1993" .SH NAME fgrabcmd, fgrab \- download files from the FSP database .SH SYNOPSIS *** man/man1/frmdircmd.1.orig Fri Apr 16 19:42:50 1993 --- man/man1/frmdircmd.1 *************** *** 1,4 **** ! FRMDIR 1 "8 December 1991" .SH NAME frmdircmd, frmdir \- remove directories from the FSP database .SH SYNOPSIS --- 1,4 ---- ! .TH FRMDIR 1 "8 December 1991" .SH NAME frmdircmd, frmdir \- remove directories from the FSP database .SH SYNOPSIS *** man/man1/fhostcmd.1.orig Fri Apr 16 19:41:30 1993 --- man/man1/fhostcmd.1 *************** *** 1,4 **** ! .TH FSETHOST 1 "7 April 1993" .SH NAME fhostcmd, fhost \- set environment variables .SH SYNOPSIS --- 1,4 ---- ! .TH FHOST 1 "7 April 1993" .SH NAME fhostcmd, fhost \- set environment variables .SH SYNOPSIS *** man/man5/fsp_prof.5.orig Fri Apr 16 20:01:22 1993 --- man/man5/fsp_prof.5 *************** *** 1,4 **** ! .TH FSTRC 5 "19 October 1988" .SH NAME fsp_prof \- file for fsp remote login data .SH DESCRIPTION --- 1,4 ---- ! .TH FSP_PROF 5 "19 October 1988" .SH NAME fsp_prof \- file for fsp remote login data .SH DESCRIPTION
From: jmd@cube.handheld.com (Jim De Arras) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Black Hardware, 8 bit serial I/O + even parity? Date: 10 Sep 1993 19:47:10 GMT Organization: Hand Held Products, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <26qljuINNt6k@clem.handheld.com> Is it possible to have 8 bit data AND even parity I/O on a NeXT? I have a box I need to talk to that requires it! Thanks, Jim jmd@cube.handheld.com
From: jmd@cube.handheld.com (Jim De Arras) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXT Gopher client with big font Date: 10 Sep 1993 21:47:36 GMT Organization: Hand Held Products, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <26qsloINNt80@clem.handheld.com> References: <1993Sep8.081613.3248@itr.ch> In article <1993Sep8.081613.3248@itr.ch> cschneid@itr.ch (Schneider Christian) writes: > I have to do some presentations with Gopher on NeXT Computers. My problem > now is that when we do a projection from the NeXT screen with a video > projector, it is impossible to read the menus and the text of the NeXT > Gopher program . > My question now is does anyone has a NeXT Gopher client with bigger fonts > (for example 18.0 pt) or has anyone the source code of the NeXT Gopher > 1.3.2, so I can modify it myself? I'm running NEXTSTEP 3.0. > > Thanks Just open the .app, and use IB to edit gopher.nib. Add the text and font menu items from the menu palette to the gopher palette by just dragging them into it. Then save and quit. Next time you launch Gopher, you'll be able to set the text font and size in the text window! If you need to change the size of the browser, etc, I think you can do it from prefs. > > -- > * Christian Schneider; Assistent Netzwerke > * Interkantonales Technikum Rapperswil (ITR) > * Oberseestrasse 10 > * CH-8640 Rapperswil; Switzerland > * Phone: +41 55 23 47 14; Fax: +41 55 23 44 00 > * EMAIL: cschneid@itr.ch -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jim De Arras - WA4ONG | "Government is not reason; it is not eloquence; NRA,ILA | it is a force. Like fire, it is a dangerous jmd@handheld.com | servant and a fearful master." -- George Washington
From: tyf@volga.EECS.Berkeley.EDU (Tin-Yau Fung) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: ExactlyWrite out yet? Date: 11 Sep 1993 03:30:42 GMT Organization: University of California, at Berkeley Distribution: world Message-ID: <26rgp2$rpa@agate.berkeley.edu> Hi, Is ExactlyWrite released yet? I've sent email to info@rightbrain.com but received no reply. Any info is appreciated. Thanks. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Tin-Yau Fung @ UC Berkeley Email: tyfung@uclink, tyf@ucsee or tyf@parker.eecs + .berkeley.edu NeXTmail Addict!!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: martin@cube.han.de Subject: Re: Compiling tin Message-ID: <1993Sep10.120133.203@cube.han.de> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Organization: not organized References: <26fdd1$3a5@news.intercon.com> <1993Sep6.140322.3878@julian.uwo.ca> <1993Sep8.215728.8414@ohm.york.ac.uk> Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1993 12:01:33 GMT Colin Perkins (csp@ohm.york.ac.uk) wrote: : Lance R. Bailey (zaphod@ctrg.rri.uwo.ca) wrote: : >on 6 Sep 1993 13:19:28 GMT David Casti wrote in comp.sys.next.sysadmin: : >> I can't seem to get the latest version of tin compiled on my 3.0 '040 : >> cube. It dies on : >> /bin/ld: Undefined symbols: : >> _getcwd : just a single line patch! Near the end of misc.c (in the : make_post_process_cmd function) there is a call to : getcwd(currentdir, sizeof(currentdir)); : Change this to : get_cwd(currentdir); : and all should work! well, I have done the same hack a week ago and it works, too. However, tin 1.21 creates a dead.article when I post to a group while tin 1.20 does not. Does this happen on your system also ? Ciao, -Martin
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: peter@corsica (Peter Eisch) Subject: Re: Compiling tin Message-ID: <CD71C8.Fpn@news.cis.umn.edu> Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: University of Minnesota Hospital and Clinic, Labratory Information Services References: <26fdd1$3a5@news.intercon.com> <1993Sep6.140322.3878@julian.uwo.ca> <1993Sep8.215728.8414@ohm.york.ac.uk> <1993Sep10.120133.203@cube.han.de> Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1993 14:22:10 GMT martin@cube.han.de wrote: : Colin Perkins (csp@ohm.york.ac.uk) wrote: : : Lance R. Bailey (zaphod@ctrg.rri.uwo.ca) wrote: : : >on 6 Sep 1993 13:19:28 GMT David Casti wrote in comp.sys.next.sysadmin: : well, I have done the same hack a week ago and it works, too. However, tin 1.21 creates a dead.article when I post to a group while tin 1.20 does not. : Does this happen on your system also ? I've used 1.2 PL0 and PL1 and have never seen the behavior you describe. I've also been using tin (daily) since last spring (pre 1.2) and haven't ever seen any "wierd" behaviors or experienced any side effects. peter -- Advice found in a pamphlet found on a university campus: "Sex for the sake of scoring is dumb!" peter@tahiti.umhc.umn.edu (Peter Eisch) peter.a.eisch@uwrf.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NeXT and a Quickdraw printer? Message-ID: <1993Sep12.005844.1@vax2.winona.msus.edu> From: surion@vax2.winona.msus.edu Date: 12 Sep 93 00:58:44 CDT Organization: Winona State University Can anybody ut there answer a couple of questions? Even partial answers (wrong ones too :-) are appreciated. 1) Does anybody know if it's possible to drive an Apple Stylewriter with my next 030 cube. Connecting the thing isn't a problem through the serial interface, but making them talk seems harder than it should be. I know that the next is running display postscript and that the printer is Quickdraw, so I should only need a software implementation of Postscript like ATM for the Mac or software RIP (though I shudder at the prices of these). I talked to somebody who had run an HP inkjet from his cube, but I don't know what software he used. Can anybody out there on the net give me any info on possible solutions? 2) Related, though not entirely the same; is it possible to convert the PS outline fonts on the next to work with ATM on my Mac? What would I need. Again I heard rumors of a shareware piece to convert from Mac to the unix platform, but not vice-versa. Any help on this one would be much appreciated. Thanks to all you who answered some of my other NeXT questions sincerely, seth
From: alex@garnet.msen.com (Alex Popadich) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Mathematica installation help Date: 12 Sep 1993 14:10:40 GMT Organization: Msen, Inc. -- Ann Arbor, MI (account info: +1 313 998-4562) Message-ID: <26val0$k60@nigel.msen.com>
From: cfleming@reis27.alleg.edu (Chuck Fleming) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: S3-805 driver? Date: 10 Sep 1993 18:59:43 GMT Organization: Allegheny College Distribution: world Message-ID: <26qiqv$r6j@ftp.alleg.edu> Keywords: driver, video Does anyone know what the status of the S3-805 video driver is? We've been eagerly waiting for this driver so that we can decide what low end machines to buy. Thanks. -- ########################################### Chuck Fleming (cfleming@alleg.edu) Educational Computing Services Allegheny College NeXTMail welcome ###########################################
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software From: dave@prim.demon.co.uk (Dave Griffiths) Subject: Cock-up or conspiracy? Organization: Primitive Software Ltd. Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1993 13:59:11 +0000 Message-ID: <1993Sep8.135911.3622@prim.demon.co.uk> Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk The RTF spec defines a certain type of group known as a "destination". It has the following syntax: {\myDestination and here are some parameters} The font table is an example of a destination group. Rich Text Format has a fairly well defined syntax. So if you were going to extend it with your own control words/destinations, you'd stick to the standard syntax, right? Wrong. Not if you're NeXT. That would be too easy. :-) I tried to create my own destination control word and have it recognized by the Text class using registerDirective:forClass:. But it didn't work because I was using the standard syntax for destination groups. It turns out that the Text class expects _this_ syntax: {{\myDestination and here are some parameters},} Now this is very odd. It breaks the rules. Any other RTF parser would treat that extra "," as part of the text. So why did NeXT do it this way? It's so bizarre and unnecessary I'm wondering if it was done deliberately to prevent non-NeXT editors from understanding NeXT RTF. Or was it just a cock-up? Dave Griffiths
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bmhahn@poseidon.knoware.nl (Bernhard Hahn) Subject: Help needed with Gopher v1.3.2 Sender: news@knoware.nl (News Account) Message-ID: <CD9nAL.Jq5@knoware.nl> Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1993 00:13:33 GMT Organization: Knoware Nederland Hello, I use Gopher v1.3.2 on a 25 MHz 68040 NeXTcube operating under NeXTSTEP 3.1, my connection to the Internet is a dialup SLIP connection. If I start an application on a remote computer which should launch Terminal, an error message like the following is generated in the console: Sep 13 00:42:44 Workspace: Cannot exec /tmp/termscr145405 : Exec format error Any hint what I can do to fix this is welcome! Thanks, --- Bernhard Hahn Holtrichtersveld 802 7327 DG Apeldoorn The Netherlands Tel: +31-55-339220 Fax: +31-55-339220 email: bmhahn@poseidon.knoware.nl
From: jmd@cube.handheld.com (Jim De Arras) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Hardware map memory map of black hardware, anyone? Date: 13 Sep 1993 01:32:04 GMT Organization: Hand Held Products, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <270iikINN4b7@clem.handheld.com> I'm specifically looking for the actual address of the Zilog serial I/O chip. Any pointers appreciated! Jim -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jim De Arras - WA4ONG | "Government is not reason; it is not eloquence; NRA-ILA, GOA, CCRKBA, | it is a force. Like fire, it is a dangerous GSSF, VSRRA | servant and a fearful master." jmd@handheld.com | -- George Washington
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: simsong@next.cambridge.ma.us (Simson L. Garfinkel) Subject: Re: SBook Upgrades Message-ID: <1993Sep11.104952.3171@next.cambridge.ma.us> Sender: simsong@next.cambridge.ma.us Organization: NeXTWORLD Magazine References: <26q2qr$4vm@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1993 10:49:52 GMT In article <26q2qr$4vm@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks) writes: > I ask because apparently they've added support for printers other than > the Next laser: that is, envelopes can be fed horizontally (most > printers I know, including my Laserjet 4M) instead of Next-vertically. > SBook EXISTS for envelopes, in my opinion. > Strange you should say that SBook EXISTS for envelopes. In fact, SBook is a descendent of two programs that I deeloped between 1983 and 1991. The first was called "g" which printed envelopes. The second was called "tout" which printed address books. They used a common name-address database format (SBook ASCII, incidentally). SBook is what happened when I put them together. As for what the story is with SBook 3.1, you'll have to contact Sarrus. They are charging $7.50 for the upgrade to all registered owners. -- ................................................................simson
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: simsong@next.cambridge.ma.us (Simson L. Garfinkel) Subject: Re: NSintel and Canon bj-200 printer? Message-ID: <1993Sep11.105039.3234@next.cambridge.ma.us> Sender: simsong@next.cambridge.ma.us Organization: NeXTWORLD Magazine References: <oZFN0B1w165w@mindvox.phantom.com> Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1993 10:50:39 GMT In article <oZFN0B1w165w@mindvox.phantom.com> schwartz@mindvox.phantom.com (Dave Schwartz) writes: > I have installed nextstep 3.1 and found that it only support postscript > printers. Is there some sort of driver either public domain or > commercially supported to allow the Canon BJ-200 to work under NS? its a > very nice inkjet, supports 360dpi, and works well, if it did work under ns > that is! Dots from D'Arts (and distributed by Aelembic) works very well. Look for a review in an upcoming issue of NeXTWORLD. -simson -- ................................................................simson
From: ck@cs.tu-berlin.de (Christian Kelling) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: What is NXJisho Date: 13 Sep 1993 06:32:57 GMT Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <27146p$g9u@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello, I found on the archive a program called NXJisho. Before I install the amounts of data (6MB) I would like to know what kind of software it is. Many thanks, Christian -- * Christian Kelling * email: ck@cs.tu-berlin.de * * TU Berlin Sekr. FR2-2 * Phone: +49.30.314-73116 * * Franklinstr. 28/29 * Fax: +49.30.314-21116 * * 10587 Berlin GERMANY * *
From: hkusumo@socs.uts.EDU.AU (Haris Kusumo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXT OS Date: 13 Sep 1993 18:27:55 +1000 Organization: School of Computer Science, UTS Message-ID: <271aub$sg9@saturn.socs.uts.edu.au> Summary: NeXT OS Keywords: NeXT OS Hi, I just wondering if you can tell me what's the different between NeXT OS and NeXT OS for student?, Is NeXT OS for student is a strip down version of NeXT OS ? Does NeXT OS for student include Development module as well or just the run-time?. Thanks in adavance.
From: jblevins@uniwa.uwa.edu.au (Jim Blevins) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Viewing aft2tfm'd PostScript fonts in TeXview? Date: 13 Sep 93 16:52:43 Organization: University of Western Australia Distribution: world Message-ID: <JBLEVINS.93Sep13165243@uniwa.uwa.edu.au> How exactly does one create/access TeXview-viewable PostScript fonts? I have successfully obtained .tfm and .vf fonts from the .afm files (for the Tekton family), as described in the NeXTTeX manual. The fonts print out in hardcopy, and in saved .ps files, when viewed by Preview, though display as shaded boxes in TeXview. The TeXview console indicates that MakeTeXPK fails because it is unable to locate the Metafont source. (The Tekton .afm files were installed in /LocalLibrary/Fonts, whereas the original PostScript fonts are in /NextLibrary/Fonts, if this makes a difference.) Any suggestions, even a pointer to a relevant FAQ, appreciated, /jim -- ---- Jim Blevins jblevins@uniwa.uwa.edu.au Centre for Linguistics phone: +61-9-380-1882 University of Western Australia fax: +61-9-380-1154 Nedlands, W.A. 6009
From: murshid@unit.edu (Murshid) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Non-linear video editing Date: 13 Sep 1993 10:19:42 GMT Organization: A poorly-installed InterNetNews site Distribution: world Message-ID: <271hfuINNh7b@network.ucsd.edu> Keywords: video editing Is there a non-linear video editing software with a NeXTstep interface? murshid@unit.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mshaler@tdocad.sps.mot.com (Michael Shaler) Subject: Re: What is NXJisho References: <27146p$g9u@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1993 08:50:12 GMT Organization: Nippon Motorola Ltd., Tokyo, Japan Sender: news@tkymail.sps.mot.com Message-ID: <1993Sep13.085012.13246@tkymail.sps.mot.com> Christian Kelling writes Hello, I found on the archive a program called NXJisho. Before I install the amounts of data (6MB) I would like to kn ow what kind of software it is. It is a surprisingly fast Japanese-English dictionary that makes exemplary use of the IXKit, and one of the most subtle icons in the NeXTWorld... %^) Scott Violet is the author and deserves kudos. Many thanks, Christian -- * Christian Kelling * email: ck@cs.tu-berlin.de * * TU Berlin Sekr. FR2-2 * Phone: +49.30.314-73116 * * Franklinstr. 28/29 * Fax: +49.30.314-21116 * * 10587 Berlin GERMANY * *- * Christian Kelling *
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: albatros@wings.micro.umn.edu (Bob Alberti) Subject: Wanted: Simple User-display tool Message-ID: <CDAvB3.Gn9@news2.cis.umn.edu> Sender: news@news2.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1993 15:55:46 GMT I'm looking for a small, simple display program which will show what users are on line, dynamically, at my console, whether or not I'm logged in. This might also prevent my coworkers from powering down my system while I'm in the middle of a remotely-run compile, which happened the other day... >:-( Does such a tool exist?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) Subject: Pictures in Webster? Message-ID: <1993Sep13.162604.25191@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: Stanford University Date: Mon, 13 Sep 93 16:26:04 GMT What happened to the pictures in Digital Webster? There's a big folder full of them on my HD, but Webster doesn't seem to want to display them. Webster's Preferences panel used to have a `display pictures?' choice, but now its gone. Any ideas how I can get them to show up? -- - Stefano Pagiola Food Research Institute, Stanford University spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged) spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
From: sowa@amdew.llnl.gov (Erik C. Sowa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Viewing aft2tfm'd PostScript fonts in TeXview? Date: 13 Sep 1993 18:51:55 GMT Organization: LLNL Chemistry and Materials Science Distribution: world Message-ID: <SOWA.93Sep13115155@amdew.llnl.gov> References: <JBLEVINS.93Sep13165243@uniwa.uwa.edu.au> In-reply-to: jblevins@uniwa.uwa.edu.au's message of 13 Sep 93 16:52:43 >>>>> "Jim" == Jim Blevins <jblevins@uniwa.uwa.edu.au> writes: Jim> NNTP-Posting-Host: uniwa.uwa.edu.au Jim> How exactly does one create/access TeXview-viewable PostScript fonts? Jim> I have successfully obtained .tfm and .vf fonts from the .afm files Jim> (for the Tekton family), as described in the NeXTTeX manual. The Jim> fonts print out in hardcopy, and in saved .ps files, when viewed by Jim> Preview, though display as shaded boxes in TeXview. The TeXview Jim> console indicates that MakeTeXPK fails because it is unable to locate Jim> the Metafont source. (The Tekton .afm files were installed in Jim> /LocalLibrary/Fonts, whereas the original PostScript fonts are in Jim> /NextLibrary/Fonts, if this makes a difference.) No, that shouldn't make a difference. You still have to tell TeXView how to find the ps font. Jim> Any suggestions, even a pointer to a relevant FAQ, appreciated, Check out my file tekton4tex.tar.Z, which was submitted to the usual archives some time ago and contains complete instructions for NS 2.1. I have not had to change anything for NS 3.0 or 3.1. If you can't find the file, I can send it by email. -- erik sowa (sowa@amdew.llnl.gov)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware From: mark@cyantic.com (Mark T. Dornfeld) Subject: HP ScanJet IIc/p software Organization: CYANTIC Systems Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1993 19:17:23 GMT Message-ID: <1993Sep13.191723.28884@cyantic.com> Is there scanner support in NS/FIP for the HP ScanJet family of scanners? I have heard that HP just released a SCSI version of their scanners. -- Mark T. Dornfeld, CYANTIC Systems Voice: (416) 234-9048 101 Subway Crescent Suite 2103 Facsimile: (416) 234-0477 Etobicoke, Ontario, M9B 6K4 CANADA Email: mark@cyantic.com
From: marcos@kaleida.com (Paul Marcos) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Cheating in Rocks.... Date: 13 Sep 1993 19:26:40 GMT Organization: Kaleida Labs, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <272hhgINNri4@golden.kaleida.com> For those of you cheats out in the world :) you can get into a "cheat" mode in Rocks. Open the Info panel. While playing a game, Control-Shift-Command click on the letter 'A' of the word Alberto. This will give you Long Range, Rapid File, Multiple Fire and Retro Rockets. It only lasts for the life of the ship so you have to do it again when you die. Paul ................................................................... Paul Marcos NeXTMail appreciated Kaleida Labs, Inc. marcos@kaleida.com ...................................................................
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: wwright@shell.portal.com (Bradly William Wright) Subject: Where can I get a version of Kermit that will compile with 3.1 FIP Message-ID: <CDB8zF.37n@unix.portal.com> Sender: news@unix.portal.com Organization: Portal Communications Company Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1993 20:59:37 GMT Which FTP site has a version of kermit that will compile cleanly under 3.1 FIP. I pulled a version from cs.orst.edu that doesn't compile. Thanks, Brad Wright ================================================== | Software Engineer (Massivus Nerdus) | | Premisys Communications (The Access Company) | | 1032 Elwell Court, Palo Alto California 94303 | | wwright@premisys.com, wwright@shell.portal.com | --------------------------------------------------
From: keiblin@cs.tu-berlin.de (Alexander Keiblinger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: MouseX for NS/Intel available ? Date: 13 Sep 1993 21:33:56 GMT Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <272p04$4f3@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hy, is there a version of MouseX, the NeXT X11-Server available or is anybody working on this ? Bye ... Alex Keiblinger -- "I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: alibaba@mindvox.phantom.com (Nick Mordanzo) Subject: ZyXEL Fax Software NS/FIP Message-ID: <XJeu0B1w165w@mindvox.phantom.com> Originator: alibaba@mindvox Sender: news@mindvox.phantom.com Organization: [MindVox] / Phantom Access Technologies / (+1 800-MindVox) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1993 01:12:44 GMT I have a ZyXEL U-1496E modem which I bought about a year ago, well before I had NeXTSTEP 486. I am now led to understand that they're out to get me and it won't send or receive faxes without another fax object or app to let it be used. What's the software that I would need for this, and where is it up, or who sells it? I need this for white hardware. Thank u $%$%$%$%$%$%$% ($) Ali Baba ($) %$%$%$%$%$%$%$
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: thompson@netcom.com (Eric Thompson) Subject: Re: Cheating in Rocks.... Message-ID: <thompsonCDBHr8.A4A@netcom.com> Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) References: <272hhgINNri4@golden.kaleida.com> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1993 00:09:07 GMT In article <272hhgINNri4@golden.kaleida.com> marcos@kaleida.com writes: >For those of you cheats out in the world :) you can get into a "cheat" >mode in Rocks. Open the Info panel. While playing a game, >Control-Shift-Command click on the letter 'A' of the word Alberto. This >will give you Long Range, Rapid File, Multiple Fire and Retro Rockets. It >only lasts for the life of the ship so you have to do it again when you >die. Does this work on the demo? Hmmm.. yet another reason to buy Rocks, so I can cheat :-) Eric
From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Where can I get a version of Kermit that will compile with 3.1 FIP Date: 13 Sep 1993 22:40:14 -0400 Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742 Message-ID: <273aue$is7@seine.cs.umd.edu> References: <CDB8zF.37n@unix.portal.com> In article <CDB8zF.37n@unix.portal.com> wwright@shell.portal.com (Bradly William Wright) writes: > Which FTP site has a version of kermit that will compile cleanly under > 3.1 FIP. I pulled a version from cs.orst.edu that doesn't compile. the latest binary for black and white hardware (and about everything else ever made) can be found on watson.columbia.edu you need to read the README files to decipher the naming convention docs, man pages and source is there too. I have no idea if it requires any tricks to compile. why bother if someone already has? its not like kermit needs to be setuid root or anything. -- Alex Blakemore alex@cs.umd.edu NeXT mail accepted -------------------------------------------------------------- "Without an engaged and motivated human being at the keyboard, the computer is just another dumb box." William Raspberry
From: mycroft@monolith.utexas.edu (Alex Currier) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Locking files... Date: 14 Sep 1993 04:20:23 GMT Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas Message-ID: <273gq7$d22@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> Is it possible to place a file in /tmp and lock it down permanently? I have made a link to /tmp in my home directory want to put .dir.tiff and opendir.tiff files in /tmp so that it won't look so ugly on my shelf. Of course, everytime I reboot the machine the .dir files are deleted. Is it possible to protect them from deletion or is there any other way to do what I am explaining? Yeah, it's not exactly the most pressing of questions but I would like to have it this way. Thank you. -- ======================================================================== Alex Currier | History is made at night... mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu | Character is what you are in the dark. ========================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mross@netcom.com (Antigone Press) Subject: Re: ZyXEL Fax Software NS/FIP Message-ID: <mrossCDBwry.G4n@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) References: <XJeu0B1w165w@mindvox.phantom.com> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1993 05:33:33 GMT Nick Mordanzo (alibaba@mindvox.phantom.com) wrote: : I have a ZyXEL U-1496E modem which I bought about a year ago, well before : I had NeXTSTEP 486. I am now led to understand that they're out to get me : and it won't send or receive faxes without another fax object or app to : let it be used. : What's the software that I would need for this, and where is it up, or who : sells it? I need this for white hardware. Black and White software sells NXFax. The black version is wonderful. They've been working on the white version but I don't know if it's ready. Write nxfax@bandw.com for info. -- -------------- Michael Ross mross@antigone.com (preferred) Antigone Press mross@netcom.com San Francisco CA FAX +1.415.431.3650
From: wrob@unixg.ubc.ca (Robert Wong) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: ZyXEL Fax Software NS/FIP Date: 14 Sep 1993 07:35:26 GMT Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada Message-ID: <273s7u$194@nnrp.ucs.ubc.ca> References: <XJeu0B1w165w@mindvox.phantom.com> In article <XJeu0B1w165w@mindvox.phantom.com> alibaba@mindvox.phantom.com (Nick Mordanzo) writes: > >I have a ZyXEL U-1496E modem which I bought about a year ago, well before >I had NeXTSTEP 486. I am now led to understand that they're out to get me >and it won't send or receive faxes without another fax object or app to >let it be used. > >What's the software that I would need for this, and where is it up, or who >sells it? I need this for white hardware. NXFax is made by Black and White Software. It is a good product. DFax is sold by Alembic Systems. It is supposed to be a good product. DFax does not support ZyXEL modems, but will in the near future. Currently neither product is shipping for Intel. RWW. -- Robert W. Wong Jr. wrob@unixg.ubc.ca (ASCII only) Crasher of Automated Banking Machines, Keeper of the ZyXEL modem FAQ, University of British Columbia NeXT Users Group Leader and collector of titles.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: philip@zetetic.com (Philip Smith) Subject: Problem with Librarian indices Message-ID: <1993Sep13.131306.1054@zetetic.uucp> Keywords: Digital Librarian Sender: philip@zetetic.uucp Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1993 13:13:06 GMT I recently upgraded to 3.1 from 3.0 and found that when I opened up Digital Librarian to browse the developer documentation. What I found was that none of the DL targets had indices. As a result the search for keywords was painfully slow. When I looked each target directory had a `.index.store' file. After I changed the permission from _r__r__r__ to _rw_rw_r__ on all the .index.store files I was able to use the indices again. The indices were owned by root.wheel. This happend twice - once when I upgraded from 2.? to 3.0. I fixed the problem then and just forgot about it. Then I hit the same problem when I upgrade to 3.1. What I expected was that the pre-built indices should be accessible and useable. Other people must have a different experience because I cannot believe that novices using DL are expected to go in and change file access privileges on hidden files to be able to browse the Literature targets. I must be missing something somewhere. Any ideas? Cheers. Philip. -- Philip Smith philip@zetetic.com (814) 861-5781 Fax: (814) 861-5175
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: josh@cs.rochester.edu Subject: (none) Message-ID: <9309141516.AA12133@vein.cs.rochester.edu> Sender: josh@cs.rochester.edu (Josh Tenenberg) Organization: University of Rochester Computer Science Dept Date: Tue, 14 Sep 93 11:16:05 -0400 Can anyone recommend a Common LISP development environment? I am running NS 3.0 on black hardware. I particularly would like a LISP that offers a good tracing and debugging interface and smooth integration with function editing, and for which excellent documentation (both hard and soft) is available. I'd like this all to cost < $500. Thanks, Josh D. Tenenberg Department of Mathematics and Computer Science Indiana University at South Bend 1700 Mishawaka Avenue P.O. Box 7111 South Bend, Indiana 46634 (219) 237-4525 fax: (219) 237-4538 josh@natasha.iusb.indiana.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: simsong@next.cambridge.ma.us (Simson L. Garfinkel) Subject: Pencil Me In Calendars Message-ID: <1993Sep14.164812.4701@next.cambridge.ma.us> Sender: simsong@next.cambridge.ma.us Organization: NeXTWORLD Magazine Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1993 16:48:12 GMT Has anybody typed in a list of all of the holidays into a PencilMeIn Calendar? Is it available on the net? -simson -- ................................................................simson
From: jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Joseph W Reiss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: BackSpace CornerView.[hm] Date: 14 Sep 1993 19:06:47 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <2754o7$2hf@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Hey, folks! I've just been browsing through the BackSpace 3.0 source code, and I stumbled across this CornerView Objective-C class. I'm not sure, but from what I can tell by looking at the code and the icon that the class uses, it looks like this was designed to allow the user to specify a "sleeping" corner of the screen such that the Screen Saver wouldn't be activated if the mouse was in that corner. Kinda like ScreenPeace does on Windoze. However, it doesn't look like this class is actually USED in BackSpace. Has anyone figured out a way to cobble this in? Let's start a BackSpace 3.1 (4.0?) wish list... 1) Sleep corner 2) Activation service - Bind a hotkey to it, then lock your screen with a Command-Keypress from anywhere 3) Separate selections for background and screen saver modules - Someone emailed me once upon a time and said they'd done this and just had to finish writing some background modules to do some image tiling stuff before they uploaded it to the ftp sites, but I haven't heard anything more about that for a while now 4) MonsterShelf compatability / functionality - As someone else said, I hate to have to choose one or the other So, any enterprising NEXTSTEP programmers out there care to tackle any of these challenges? Joe -- __________ | NeXTMail accepted, but not preferred | |___) | """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" \_/OE | \EISS | Golly, gee whiz, Sir. My experiment disabled our warp `---- | engines, and weapons, and left us inside Romulan space!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: borrel@ludvigsen.dhhalden.no (Borre Ludvigsen) Subject: NeXT Dimension Video experience? Message-ID: <1993Sep14.190351.18216@dhhalden.no> Sender: news@dhhalden.no (Network News User) Organization: Ostfold College Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1993 19:03:51 GMT Does anyone have any experience of putting video input to the NeXTDimension onto a "raw" video file as mentioned in Gary Arakaki's documentation for yav? - Barre Ludvigsen
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) Subject: Looking for Anthony Berno Message-ID: <1993Sep14.204549.14824@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: Stanford University Date: Tue, 14 Sep 93 20:45:49 GMT Apologies for the use of bandwidth... I'm looking for Anthony Berno of Saltwater City Software; I somehow managed to nuke my file with his address. Any pointers to his email address would be welcome. -- - Stefano Pagiola Food Research Institute, Stanford University spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged) spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: huck@nise-ch.nosc.mil (Craig Huckabee) Subject: Mail.app in 3.2 to support MIME ??? Message-ID: <1993Sep14.214243.27887@nosc.mil> Sender: usenet@nosc.mil (Network News) Organization: NCCOSC RDT&E Division, San Diego, CA Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1993 21:42:43 GMT Simple question: Will the Mail.app in NeXTStep 3.2 support MIME or is there a mail application for NeXTStep that will? --Craig
From: Hal.Varian@umich.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mail.app in 3.2 to support MIME ??? Date: 14 Sep 1993 22:01:54 GMT Organization: University of Michigan - College of Literature, Science, and TheArts Distribution: world Message-ID: <275f0i$9i3@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu> References: <1993Sep14.214243.27887@nosc.mil> In article <1993Sep14.214243.27887@nosc.mil> huck@nise-ch.nosc.mil (Craig Huckabee) writes: > Simple question: > > Will the Mail.app in NeXTStep 3.2 support MIME or is there a mail > application for NeXTStep that will? > > --Craig Pine supports mime. It is available on the archives and works well. -- Hal.Varian@umich.edu Hal Varian voice: 313-764-2364 Dept of Economics fax: 313-764-2364 Univ of Michigan Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1220
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: westner@picasso.pst.informatik.uni-muenchen.de (Dominik Westner) Subject: ISDN Kit Sender: news@informatik.uni-muenchen.de (News System) Message-ID: <CDECt7.Do6@informatik.uni-muenchen.de> Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1993 13:15:06 GMT Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Universitaet Muenchen Keywords: ISDN I was woundering what happened to the NeXT Phone Project. I've been quite excited about the Phone Kit provided with 3.0, but just learned now that this was not anymore provided with 3.1. What happened? Is it going to be a separate package or is it just not supported anymore? This may have been discussed before, but I couldn't find anything in FAQs. I'm in need of setting up an ISDN connection. As far as I know the Phone Managment Software doesn't support European standards. Has anybody ever succesfully used the ISDN Software in the States or in Europe. Please mail me some hints, suggestions, comments. I'm going to post a summary. -- Dominik Westner "Everything is possible in an infinite universe" ______________________________________________________Willi, the painter Dominik Westner Muenchen-Germany HOME: dominik@blackmagic.guug.de [NeXTMail welcome]
From: jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Joseph W Reiss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: BackSpace CornerView.[hm] Date: 15 Sep 1993 02:28:38 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <275ukn$36e@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> References: <2754o7$2hf@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Joseph W Reiss) wrote... >However, it doesn't look like this class is actually USED in >BackSpace. Has anyone figured out a way to cobble this in? D'oh! Why didn't somebody TELL me when I upgraded to NS3.1 that I had to recompile BackSpace? That fixed things up nicely, and the CornerView class magically appeared. Chalk another one up to blind, stupid, dumb luck at my deciding to try recompiling "just in case". (Oh, in case I'm not the only one who hasn't figured this out yet, moving the mouse to the corner with this feature on doesn't disable the screen saver... it causes it to engage) >Let's start a BackSpace 3.1 (4.0?) wish list... That'd be 4.0. This new version *IS* 3.01. Boy, do I feel silly. But anyway, the rest of my wish list items still stand -- namely a corner to turn OFF the screen saver temporarily, separate selections for background and screensaver modules, and MonsterShelf support. That's all. Please pardon my brain-fart. Joe -- __________ | NeXTMail accepted, but not preferred | |___) | """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" \_/OE | \EISS | Real programmers don't read manuals. Reliance on a `---- | reference book is the mark of the novice & the coward.
From: dbora@ils.nwu.edu (Donald Bora) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXTStep 486 on Allur Date: 15 Sep 1993 02:48:41 GMT Organization: The Institute for the Learning Sciences Distribution: world Message-ID: <275vq9$eek@anaxagoras.ils.nwu.edu> Ok all of you out there in net land, here is a question for you all about trying to get NeXTStep to run on a 486DX (or DX2) Allur machine. I am having trouble with the SCSI controller. I am going to try and get a hold of this company and see if they know what might be up with a specific SCSI controller.. but in the mean time... I am trying to install NeXTStep (evaluation kit) 486 and during the boot off the floppy, the system halts when it tries to reset the SCSI bus... any clues? If anyone has any information at all please e-mail me... before I am completely bald ;) Thanx! -*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* Donald F. Bora | | | The Institute for the Learning Sciences | | O | Northwestern University | (--|--) Evanston, Ill | | e-mail: dbora@ils.nwu.edu | / \ work: (708) 467-1972 | --------Be excellent to each other--------
From: jmd@cube.handheld.com (Jim De Arras) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: BackSpace CornerView.[hm] Date: 15 Sep 1993 02:19:34 GMT Organization: Hand Held Products, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <275u3mINN9sm@clem.handheld.com> References: <2754o7$2hf@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> In article <2754o7$2hf@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Joseph W Reiss) writes: > > Hey, folks! > > I've just been browsing through the BackSpace 3.0 source code, and I > stumbled across this CornerView Objective-C class. I'm not sure, but > from what I can tell by looking at the code and the icon that the > class uses, it looks like this was designed to allow the user to > specify a "sleeping" corner of the screen such that the Screen Saver > wouldn't be activated if the mouse was in that corner. Kinda like > ScreenPeace does on Windoze. > > However, it doesn't look like this class is actually USED in > BackSpace. Has anyone figured out a way to cobble this in? > > Let's start a BackSpace 3.1 (4.0?) wish list... > > 1) Sleep corner It's got it already, 3.01, at least has it! > 2) Activation service > - Bind a hotkey to it, then lock your screen with a > Command-Keypress from anywhere > 3) Separate selections for background and screen saver modules > - Someone emailed me once upon a time and said they'd done this and > just had to finish writing some background modules to do some > image tiling stuff before they uploaded it to the ftp sites, but > I haven't heard anything more about that for a while now > 4) MonsterShelf compatability / functionality > - As someone else said, I hate to have to choose one or the other It's only a conflict if you use BackSpace as a background for your workspace. They work together fine, if you only use the screensaver part! > > So, any enterprising NEXTSTEP programmers out there care to tackle any > of these challenges? > > Joe [...] Jim -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jim De Arras - WA4ONG | "Government is not reason; it is not eloquence; NRA-ILA, GOA, CCRKBA, | it is a force. Like fire, it is a dangerous GSSF, VSRRA | servant and a fearful master." jmd@handheld.com | -- George Washington
From: marc@ashley.ucla.edu (Marc Day) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Kermit help needed! Date: 15 Sep 1993 06:36:45 GMT Organization: ucla Sender: marc@ashley (Marc Day) Distribution: world Message-ID: <276d5t$pag@news.mic.ucla.edu> I am using an ancient 2400 baud modem to get to work from my NeXTSTATION 040 running 3.0. I cannot figure out how to "esacape to the local system" to start "receiving" and and file that was "send"'ed. In other words, I cannot transfer files back and forth over kermit. Could someone please tell me the secret. Better yet, how 'bout a better piece of software for this, preferably one written in NeXTSTEP to run on my end. Thanks for any suggestions. Please use Email to respond. I'll post any successful suggestions, but am more likely to see responses mailed to me. M -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | __________________ oOOOOOO\ \oSSSo/ / \ /oOO OO| _-OSSSSSO-_ | Send money to: | oOO/ -OSSSSSO- | | /OOO /oSSSo\ | Marc Day | /oOOOOO| _O___ | | Institute of Plasma | oOOOOOOOo / \ | Fusion Research | /oOOOOOOOOOOo |\ | 44-139 Eng'g IV | ooOOOOOOOOOOOOOo ___|_|___ | University of CA | oOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO / OOOooooooo | Los Angeles, CA | OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooo | 90024-1597 | OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooo \___________________/ Surf till you can't, Eat till you can't, Sleep till you can't. Excess is the key to life! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ALL OTHER MATTERS... Internet: day@fusion.ucla.edu --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: marc@ashley.ucla.edu (Marc Day) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Quicken spreadsheet software??? Date: 15 Sep 1993 06:38:51 GMT Organization: ucla Sender: marc@ashley (Marc Day) Distribution: world Message-ID: <276d9r$pag@news.mic.ucla.edu> Some friends have a Mac (ew, yuck!!!), and highly praise the software "Quicken" for personal finance organization. Is there a versio of this, or some hacked NeXT equivalent that has many of the same features? Thanks. Please Email responses, will post results, but am more likely to receive Email first. M -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | __________________ oOOOOOO\ \oSSSo/ / \ /oOO OO| _-OSSSSSO-_ | Send money to: | oOO/ -OSSSSSO- | | /OOO /oSSSo\ | Marc Day | /oOOOOO| _O___ | | Institute of Plasma | oOOOOOOOo / \ | Fusion Research | /oOOOOOOOOOOo |\ | 44-139 Eng'g IV | ooOOOOOOOOOOOOOo ___|_|___ | University of CA | oOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO / OOOooooooo | Los Angeles, CA | OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooo | 90024-1597 | OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooo \___________________/ Surf till you can't, Eat till you can't, Sleep till you can't. Excess is the key to life! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ALL OTHER MATTERS... Internet: day@fusion.ucla.edu --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: zazula@soliton.physics.arizona.edu (Ralph Zazula) Subject: Re: Image or WetPaint? Message-ID: <1993Sep13.151719.22446@galileo.physics.arizona.edu> Sender: zazula@pri.com (Ralph Zazula) Organization: Pinncale Research, Inc. Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1993 15:17:19 GMT Scott Byer writes >Dave Schwartz writes > >> I am interested in image editing under NS Intel, in looking at >> the thirdparty disk supplied I see two programs in particular >> that interest me. These being WetPaint and Image. Can anyone who >> is using either one of these give me their views on why one is >> better over the other? > > [...] > >Just try both demo versions. I don't think there are any "major" >reasons for choosing on over the other. Major reason #1 for buying WetPaint: $450 in your pocket! Ralph --- Ralph Zazula President Pinnacle Research, Inc. THE NEXTSTEP UTILITY LAB zazula@pri.com (NeXTmail) voice: (602)529-1135 fax: (602)529-0117 / (602)299-9133
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: zazula@soliton.physics.arizona.edu (Ralph Zazula) Subject: Re: Image or WetPaint? Message-ID: <1993Sep13.153509.23166@galileo.physics.arizona.edu> Sender: zazula@pri.com (Ralph Zazula) Organization: Pinnacle Research, Inc. Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1993 15:35:09 GMT Scott Byer writes >Dave Schwartz writes > >> I am interested in image editing under NS Intel, in looking at >> the thirdparty disk supplied I see two programs in particular >> that interest me. These being WetPaint and Image. Can anyone who >> is using either one of these give me their views on why one is >> better over the other? > >I've got Image. I liked the gradients better, and the interesting >capabilities such as being able to "spray-paint" using a pattern >or gradient (spray-painting with a gradient is broken though :-(. > WetPaint allows you to use ANY tool to paint with a pattern, gradient or any of the image processing filters! Spray on edge-detection, gradient lines, patterened text, etc. WetPaint also uses multi-point color sources for creating gradients that we feel gives more flexibility than simple linear gradients. Along with standard "cross-fade" gradients, you can create interesting specular highlight and color combination effects. >It has some annoying bugs, I'm not sure how long AppSoft is going >to be around to support it (doing okay guys?). It's missing >multi-tiff support, and some of it's filters are annoyingly slow. > WetPaint has been, and will continue to be revised as needed to provide bug-fixes and enhancments. It has multi-tiff support (added in v1.2) and the filters scream! WetPaint - Works Great! Costs Less! Okay, enough from me... Ralph --- Ralph Zazula President Pinnacle Research, Inc. THE NEXTSTEP UTILITY LAB zazula@pri.com (NeXTmail) voice: (602)529-1135 fax: (602)529-0117 / (602)299-9133
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: steinarb@falch.no (Steinar Bang) Subject: Re: Mail.app in 3.2 to support MIME ??? In-Reply-To: Hal.Varian@umich.edu's message of 14 Sep 1993 22:01:54 GMT Message-ID: <STEINARB.93Sep15085951@flame.falch.no> Sender: Falch Newsfeed <usenet@falch.no> Organization: Falch Hurtigtrykk, Oslo, Norway References: <1993Sep14.214243.27887@nosc.mil> <275f0i$9i3@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu> Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1993 07:59:51 GMT >>>>> On 14 Sep 1993 22:01:54 GMT, Hal.Varian@umich.edu said: > In article <1993Sep14.214243.27887@nosc.mil> huck@nise-ch.nosc.mil (Craig > Huckabee) writes: >> Will the Mail.app in NeXTStep 3.2 support MIME or is there a mail >> application for NeXTStep that will? > Pine supports mime. It is available on the archives and works well. But a text/terminal oriented application like Pine is not what you want when you're working on a NeXT. You want a GUI mail tool that will let you receive MIME and NeXT mail messages equally well and transparently switching between the two. You want a mail tool that'll let you send both types of mail as well as ordinary old-fashioned rfc-821 style mail. Just my ECU.02 - Steinar
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin) Subject: Re: Where can I get a version of Kermit that will compile with 3.1 FIP Message-ID: <CDDt60.1G7@andi.org> Sender: bchin@andi.org (Bill Chin) Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International References: <273aue$is7@seine.cs.umd.edu> Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1993 06:10:47 GMT In article <273aue$is7@seine.cs.umd.edu> alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore) writes: > the latest binary for black and white hardware (and about everything else ever made) > can be found on watson.columbia.edu > > you need to read the README files to decipher the naming convention > docs, man pages and source is there too. > > I have no idea if it requires any tricks to compile. > why bother if someone already has? > its not like kermit needs to be setuid root or anything. You can grab the latest C-kermit, version 189 (cku189.tar.Z) from the bin directory. NeXTSTEP is already in the Makefiles, however RTS/CTS flow control was not turned on. I added it in one of the header files (just grep for rts & NeXT). I also changed the optimization flags and compiled it FAT - it seems to work just fine. If there is a demand, I'll put up the exact changes. -- Bill Chin - bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org - NeXTmail welcomed
From: treed@friday.bmt.gun.com (Timothy Reed) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Graphing applications? Date: 15 Sep 1993 13:15:28 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9309151807.AA01033@friday.bmt.gun.com> Can anyone recommend graphing software - something that takes user input or includes an API for messaging from my applications. Vendor contacts are useful (for example, who is selling Graphity in the States?). Thanks, Tim --- Timothy Reed, Black Market Technologies Voice: +1 718 522-5090 Fax: +1 718 852-4249 E-mail: treed@bmt.gun.com "Reading documentation is an admission of failure." "Also, my cat Arthur was FTPing hundreds of terabytes of PD software from Epsilon Eridani in the year 4741 A.D. over the faster-than-light Ethernet interface I built for him, and this may have been loading the Net a little yesterday. My sincere apologies to everyone who noticed any performance degradation."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: nico@imani.cam.org (Nicolas Dore) Subject: Re: BackSpace CornerView.[hm] Message-ID: <1993Sep15.155329.7107@imani.cam.org> Sender: nico@imani.cam.org References: <2754o7$2hf@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1993 15:53:29 GMT In article <2754o7$2hf@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Joseph W Reiss) writes: > > Hey, folks! > > I've just been browsing through the BackSpace 3.0 source code, and I > stumbled across this CornerView Objective-C class. I'm not sure, but > from what I can tell by looking at the code and the icon that the > class uses, it looks like this was designed to allow the user to > specify a "sleeping" corner of the screen such that the Screen Saver > wouldn't be activated if the mouse was in that corner. Kinda like > ScreenPeace does on Windoze. > > However, it doesn't look like this class is actually USED in > BackSpace. Has anyone figured out a way to cobble this in? > > Let's start a BackSpace 3.1 (4.0?) wish list... > > 1) Sleep corner > 2) Activation service > - Bind a hotkey to it, then lock your screen with a > Command-Keypress from anywhere > 3) Separate selections for background and screen saver modules > - Someone emailed me once upon a time and said they'd done this and > just had to finish writing some background modules to do some > image tiling stuff before they uploaded it to the ftp sites, but > I haven't heard anything more about that for a while now > 4) MonsterShelf compatability / functionality > - As someone else said, I hate to have to choose one or the other 5) Have the Teapot inspector back! I'm only getting standard Backspace modules inspectors now, but I seem to remember I once got it for Teapot. Now I can't. Anybody got an idea? Ciao > So, any enterprising NEXTSTEP programmers out there care to tackle any > of these challenges? I second that. > Joe -- Nicolas Dore nico@imani.cam.org - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > "Le calembour est la fiente du mot qui vole." < > Victor Hugo <
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mross@netcom.com (Antigone Press) Subject: Re: Mail.app in 3.2 to support MIME ??? Message-ID: <mrossCDDuGC.D55@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) References: <275f0i$9i3@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu> Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1993 06:38:35 GMT Hal.Varian@umich.edu wrote: : Pine supports mime. It is available on the archives and works well. That is a matter of opinion. I find it particularly braindead myself. - No way to display multipart contents. - No way to incorporate attachments except at the end. - No way to incorporate Postscript as application/postscript; it comes out as application/octet-stream. Utterly useless, and not just on the NeXT, folks. However, Pine as a _simple_ test mail interface is quite pleasant. Just don't raise your expectations. -- -------------- Michael Ross mross@antigone.com (preferred) Antigone Press mross@netcom.com San Francisco CA FAX +1.415.431.3650
From: sasha1@cats.ucsc.edu (Lars Elias Pave) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: How to reach Total System Software? Date: 15 Sep 1993 19:00:43 GMT Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz Distribution: usa Message-ID: <277oorINNlq7@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> Hello Everyone, Can someone tell me how to reach Total System Software? Is there a new address or phone number? This is concerning DFax software. Thanks in advance, Sasha Pave sasha1@cats.ucsc.edu
From: Chuyen_L._Tran.DlosLV300@xerox.com Subject: Colorize a PostScript file in FrameMaker with screening off? Message-ID: <"15-Sep-938:25:53".*.Chuyen_L._Tran.DlosLV300@Xerox.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Date: 15 Sep 93 13:26:47 GMT Hello folks, Is there a way to colorize a PostScript file on a Next workstation without turning screening on? I am using FrameMaker to do this. My apologies if this is a FAQ question. If it is, please tell me where to get the FAQ. Thanks for any and all information. Best regards, CLT ctran.dlosLV300@xerox.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jblencoe@blencoe.chem.ornl.gov (James G. Blencoe) Subject: Re: Quicken spreadsheet software??? Message-ID: <1993Sep15.134015.24212@ornl.gov> Keywords: CheckSum Sender: usenet@ornl.gov (News poster) Organization: Oak Ridge National Laboratory References: <276d9r$pag@news.mic.ucla.edu> Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1993 13:40:15 GMT In article <276d9r$pag@news.mic.ucla.edu> marc@ashley.ucla.edu (Marc Day) writes: > > Some friends have a Mac (ew, yuck!!!), and highly praise the software > "Quicken" for personal finance organization. Is there a versio of > this, or some hacked NeXT equivalent that has many of the same > features? > [Munch] Marc, Try CheckSum, from Sirius Solutions, Inc. (415-957-9044, checksum@sirius.com) Jim
From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Quicken spreadsheet software??? Date: 15 Sep 1993 09:40:04 -0400 Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742 Distribution: world Message-ID: <2775vk$sam@seine.cs.umd.edu> References: <276d9r$pag@news.mic.ucla.edu> Summary: Checksum is a capable personal finance package for NEXTSTEP Keywords: accounting software NeXT Send-To: marc@ashley.ucla.edu In article <276d9r$pag@news.mic.ucla.edu> marc@ashley.ucla.edu (Marc Day) writes: > Some friends have a Mac (ew, yuck!!!), and highly praise the software > "Quicken" for personal finance organization. Is there a versio of > this, or some hacked NeXT equivalent that has many of the same > features? CheckSum is a good bet. mail to checksum@sirius.com or get a demo off the archives its low priced capable personal (and small biz) finance app with good educational discounts you even get free phone support while getting started it works pretty well and can import and export quicken files. its pretty easy to use as well. I have a few minor interface gripes with the first version, but they are truly minor, and will probably be addressed in the second version. as far as functionality goes, it works pretty well. btw, it is a single entry system. I think they plan a double entry one as well. -- Alex Blakemore alex@cs.umd.edu NeXT mail accepted -------------------------------------------------------------- "Without an engaged and motivated human being at the keyboard, the computer is just another dumb box." William Raspberry
From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Image or WetPaint? Date: 15 Sep 1993 20:12:22 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <277sv6$49n@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <1993Sep13.153509.23166@galileo.physics.arizona.edu> Originator: jbn35564@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu Given that Appsoft has said they're not going to be doing much with their apps for a while (e.g., bug fixes and new releases might come, they might not) and that I've never heard anyone say anything good about Image's handling of data when it comes to freeing it (leading to abnormally huge swapfiles and slow response for the entire machine, if not crashing), I'd lean toward WetPaint. -- J.B. Nicholson-Owens (no NeXTmail please)
From: danon@aludra.usc.edu (Alexander Danon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Movies and the next Date: 15 Sep 1993 13:18:05 -0700 Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA Sender: danon@aludra.usc.edu Message-ID: <277t9t$4rc@aludra.usc.edu> References: <1993Aug5.091956.12654@sics.se> <CByEz3.x8@cs.umu.se> I have an NextDimension board, and 727 ps files, and I want to make a movie out of them and get a video tape of it. Any Suggestions? (I'm a first time Next User) Alex
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago, ADN Computer Center Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1993 12:01:06 CDT From: <U53076@uicvm.uic.edu> Message-ID: <93258.120106U53076@uicvm.uic.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Trouble installing newsreaders Hi Folks, I'm runninf NS 3.1 on a monochrome nextstation, and I want to use one of the nice newsreaders that are available. I get my news from an nntp server called uicvm.cc.uic.edu. I have had no luck with NewsGrazer of NewsBase. The only thing I've had luck with is an old version of News, but it is a beta release that doesn't allow me to post. So, I need some help configuring either NewsGrazer of News Base. NewsGrazer launches and then hangs forver while it loo ks for the active newsgroups. NewsBase finds the active groups but crashes as soon as I selwect an article to read. NewsBase Help also appears with bizzare symbolic character gibberish. What am I doing wrong. Please be specific about how to set my preferences, how to set the flat file options, what to do with my .newsrc file, how to modify defaults, and so on. I'm pretty naive about this stuff. Thanks in advance. Bruce Lambert
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: thor@sushi.uib.no Subject: Newsgrazer - show only subscribed groups??? Message-ID: <1993Sep15.203241.28913@alf.uib.no> Sender: usenet@alf.uib.no (Bergen University Newsaccount) Organization: University of Bergen, Norway Date: Wed, 15 Sep 93 20:32:41 GMT Hi. Sorry for the waste of andwidth, I didn't find it in the help file or in the documentation I have for NNTP NetNews. I'm on a SLIP line and would like to avoid Newsgrazer getting the entire group hierarchy every time I connect. Isn't there a simple way to retrieve only groups which are subscribed to? Regards, -- Thor Legvold | "This is the strangest life NorNeXT User Group leader | I've ever known..." University of Bergen | -Jim Morrison, The Doors NORWAY | edmtl@edb.uib.noT
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: zalta@mally.Stanford.EDU (Ed Zalta) Subject: Bug in Chess.app? Message-ID: <1993Sep15.212513.22292@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: Stanford University Date: Wed, 15 Sep 93 21:25:13 GMT I thought I would try to follow one of the recent chess matches being played between Short and Kasparov by putting the moves up on Chess.app (I know, this shows I am not a real chess player). But, after configuring the Preferences of Chess.app to play a game of Human against Human, Chess.app still automatically played black after I put up the first move by white. Is there any way to shut this off, so that I can just use the on-line graphics to view a game? Ed
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago, ADN Computer Center Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1993 16:16:15 CDT From: <U53076@uicvm.uic.edu> Message-ID: <93258.161615U53076@uicvm.uic.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: News articles by number not message id Hi, I'm having trouble getting newsreaders to work here at U. of I at Chicago because our nntp server, an IBM mainframe, uses a version of nntp that only recognizes individual news articles by message number; whereas, the news readers for the Next recognize individual articles by <message_id>. Does anyone know how I can fix this problem from my end. The IBM version of nntp will be fixed eventually, but I'd rather not wait. Thanks in advance. Bruce Lambert
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: huck@nosc.mil (Craig Huckabee) Subject: Re: Mail.app in 3.2 to support MIME ??? Message-ID: <huck.748134418@nise-ch> Sender: usenet@nosc.mil (Network News) Organization: NCCOSC RDT&E Division, San Diego, CA References: <1993Sep14.214243.27887@nosc.mil> <275f0i$9i3@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu> <STEINARB.93Sep15085951@flame.falch.no> Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1993 23:06:58 GMT steinarb@falch.no (Steinar Bang) writes: >>>>>> On 14 Sep 1993 22:01:54 GMT, Hal.Varian@umich.edu said: >> In article <1993Sep14.214243.27887@nosc.mil> huck@nise-ch.nosc.mil (Craig >> Huckabee) writes: >>> Will the Mail.app in NeXTStep 3.2 support MIME or is there a mail >>> application for NeXTStep that will? >> Pine supports mime. It is available on the archives and works well. >But a text/terminal oriented application like Pine is not what you >want when you're working on a NeXT. EXACTLY - and it's not what I want that even matters, it's what I need. I have a site with lots of NeXT mail and lots of PCs/MACs/Suns who all talk (or will soon be talking) MIME mail. >You want a GUI mail tool that will let you receive MIME and NeXT mail >messages equally well and transparently switching between the two. You >want a mail tool that'll let you send both types of mail as well as >ordinary old-fashioned rfc-821 style mail. You have stated what I wanted perfectly. Hey NeXT programming experts! Are you listening?!? This is something that could be worth $$$, I am sure I'm not the only person who wants MIME compliance. Especially if the look and feel of the mail app remained the same, just gave a choice of how to send (as stated above). NeXT, are you listening?!?!?!?!?!?!?! --Craig >Just my ECU.02 >- Steinar -- ****************************************************** * __ * * __ __ __ /_/| * * /_/\ /_/\ / /\ | || *
From: glenn@iridium.digex.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Newsgrazer - show only subscribed groups??? Date: 16 Sep 1993 00:39:55 GMT Organization: Express Access Online Communications, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <278ckr$9a6@news1.digex.net> References: <1993Sep15.203241.28913@alf.uib.no> In article <1993Sep15.203241.28913@alf.uib.no> thor@sushi.uib.no writes: > Hi. > > Sorry for the waste of andwidth, I didn't find it in the help file or in the > documentation I have for NNTP NetNews. I'm on a SLIP line and would like to > avoid Newsgrazer getting the entire group hierarchy every time I connect. > Isn't there a simple way to retrieve only groups which are subscribed to? > > Regards, > -- > Thor Legvold | "This is the strangest life > NorNeXT User Group leader | I've ever known..." > University of Bergen | -Jim Morrison, The Doors > NORWAY | edmtl@edb.uib.noT Try Info -> Preferences -> NewsGroups -> Default View -> List or Group -> List View Glenn -- Glenn D. Rempe (NeXTMAIL) glenn@iridium.digex.net
From: glenn@iridium.digex.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Need some help with my broken SLIP connection... Date: 16 Sep 1993 00:42:48 GMT Organization: Express Access Online Communications, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <278cq8$9d7@news1.digex.net> Hi Everyone, I have been having a problem recently with my SLIP connection, and I have tried to diagnose it with my SLIP provider to no avail. Could you take a minute to look this over to see if you have any ideas? I have my SLIP connection to Digital Express Group based in MD. Up untill a few weeks ago the biggest problem I had with SLIP was finding a line with them that was not busy so I could log on. They have since corrected that problem, but now an entirely new one has shown up (Isn't it always that way! :-( ) My SLIP connection, up untill about two weeks ago "Just worked!" as Steve Jobs would say. I had no problem with FTP, mail news irc, etc. Once I was logged in things were transparent and smooth. Then all of a sudden something broke! Here are the symtoms: The line would come up normally and I can ping other hosts with no problem. I can usually start NewsGrazer and read news without difficulty, but sometimes It will hang in midstream. I can see mail coming through via the activity lights on my modem but then the interface will hang sometimes and the mail will not make it through. The easiest way I have found to kill the link is to use ftp. It will start to receive a file but then all of a sudden the link will lock up, transmission stops and there is nothing that can be done. When the link locks I cannot do anything. not even ping another host. But then a strange thing will sometimes happen. I will try to ping a host to test the interface and my system will then hang at the command line. Even if I ^c out of the ping attempt I cannot do anything at the command line! I cannot do a ps-aux, or cd or ls or anything. Its as if all of my CPU time has just been eaten up. Then all of a sudden the system will clear itself and the ls or cd or ps -aux or whatever that has been hung will then work. It seems to me as if some process is trying desperately hard to do something and is stuck, then all of a sudden it times out or something and the system frees itself! Here is a copy of a portion of my /usr/dialupip/log/syslog during one of these episodes: ----------------------------------- Sep 12 23:51:44 iridium duioctl[2915]: Enabled calling on "slip0" Sep 12 23:51:44 iridium duioctl[2915]: Set MTU on "slip0" to 256 bytes Sep 12 23:51:44 iridium duioctl[2915]: Set ATIMEO on "slip0" to 9999999 Sep 12 23:51:44 iridium duioctl[2915]: BRINGUP on "slip0" Sep 12 23:51:44 iridium tcldiald[63]: Started pid 2916 to bring up interface slip0 Sep 12 23:51:47 iridium diald-slip0[2916]: makecall: Attempting connection to "pm1.digex.net" via "slip0" Sep 12 23:51:47 iridium diald-slip0[2916]: (Source scripts hooks.tcl,dial-hsd.tcl, and login-digex.tcl from slip-srv.script.tcl for interface slip0 site pm1.digex.net) Sep 12 23:51:47 iridium diald-slip0[2916]: (Now invoking hooks.tcl script.) Sep 12 23:51:47 iridium diald-slip0[2916]: (mtu 256 atimeo 10000000 wtimeo 300 ipkts 32963 opkts 24060) Sep 12 23:51:47 iridium diald-slip0[2916]: (Now invoking dial-zyxel.tcl script.) Sep 12 23:51:47 iridium diald-slip0[2916]: (Start of ZyXEL dialing script, dialing *70,301-220-4231) Sep 12 23:51:53 iridium diald-slip0[2916]: (set parameters) Sep 12 23:51:53 iridium diald-slip0[2916]: (Dialing *70,301-220-4231) Sep 12 23:52:17 iridium diald-slip0[2916]: (Connected ^M) Sep 12 23:52:17 iridium diald-slip0[2916]: (Now invoking login-digex.tcl script.) Sep 12 23:52:17 iridium diald-slip0[2916]: (Begin digex.net login) Sep 12 23:52:19 iridium diald-slip0[2916]: (Entering SLIP mode) Sep 12 23:52:19 iridium mach: duinit: unit 0 ds x10f92000 Sep 12 23:52:19 iridium diald-slip0[2916]: duconnect: Did SIOCSIFADDR on "slip0" Sep 12 23:52:19 iridium diald-slip0[2916]: Changing silo delay for /dev/cufa from 4000 usec to 67108392 usec Sep 12 23:52:19 iridium diald-slip0[2916]: Connected to "pm1.digex.net" via "slip0" Sep 12 23:52:19 iridium diald-slip0[2916]: (Link UP event (bringup) for slip0 for pm1.digex.net) Sep 12 23:52:19 iridium diald-slip0[2916]: Timeout for "slip0" set to 300 Sep 12 23:52:19 iridium diald-slip0[2916]: Outbound interface "slip0" starting ipkts = 32963, opkts = 24060 Sep 12 23:52:19 iridium diald-slip0[2916]: (slip0/pm1.digex.net IF flags changed from 0x0 => 0x11) Sep 12 23:52:19 iridium diald-slip0[2916]: (slip0/pm1.digex.net SOFT flags changed from 0x0 => 0x320) Sep 12 23:52:59 iridium mach: durend: packet too large Sep 12 23:54:51 iridium last message repeated 7 times Sep 12 23:55:52 iridium mach: durend: packet too large Sep 12 23:56:21 iridium last message repeated 3 times Sep 12 23:57:42 iridium mach: durend: packet too large Sep 12 23:58:11 iridium last message repeated 3 times Sep 13 00:03:11 iridium mach: durend: packet too large Sep 13 00:03:15 iridium mach: durend: packet too large Sep 13 00:03:40 iridium last message repeated 2 times Sep 13 00:05:58 iridium mach: durend: packet too large Sep 13 00:06:27 iridium last message repeated 3 times Sep 13 00:12:23 iridium diald-slip0[2916]: (SLIP interface slip0 up 20 minutes.) Sep 13 00:12:56 iridium mach: durend: packet too large Sep 13 00:13:25 iridium last message repeated 3 times Sep 13 00:14:49 iridium mach: durend: packet too large Sep 13 00:15:18 iridium last message repeated 3 times Sep 13 00:16:16 iridium duioctl[3095]: Enabled calling on "slip0" Sep 13 00:16:16 iridium duioctl[3095]: BRINGDOWN on "slip0" Sep 13 00:16:21 iridium mach: dutimer: unit 0 [slip0] - bringing down line due to inactivity. Sep 13 00:16:21 iridium mach: dutnetclose: ds 10f92000 dstty 40a2bb4 unit 0 Sep 13 00:16:21 iridium mach: dutnetclose: unit 0 sending HUP/CONT signal to pgrp 2916 Sep 13 00:16:21 iridium mach: dutclose line xbe0 Sep 13 00:16:21 iridium diald-slip0[2916]: hangup: Process 2916 got signal 1 for "slip0" Sep 13 00:16:21 iridium diald-slip0[2916]: hangup: Outbound interface "slip0" up 1442 seconds Sep 13 00:16:21 iridium diald-slip0[2916]: hangup: Inpackets = 437, Outpackets = 509, Average = 0.66 packets/sec Sep 13 00:16:21 iridium diald-slip0[2916]: Timeout for "slip0" set to 10000000 Sep 13 00:16:22 iridium diald-slip0[2916]: (Link DOWN event for slip0 for pm1.digex.net) Sep 13 00:16:23 iridium diald-slip0[2916]: hangup: Disconnected "slip0" Sep 13 00:16:23 iridium tcldiald[63]: Child pid 2916 for slip0/pm1.digex.net exited. ------------------------------------------ Notice on this attempt I had the MTU set to 256, I strayed from the default of 1006 because when I saw this message I thought that maybe this had something to do with it. I am not sure if this helps or not., or if it is even related to my problem. I spoke with Digex today to see if they had any ideas and they did not know what it could be except for maybe one thing that immediately came to mind. They recently upgraded their terminal server, it is now the following: Livingston Portmaster Default MTU 1006 no header compression com os 2.4, beta 7 Could the problem be a bug in the server software? No one else at Digex has reported any SLIP problems since the change. They said that in the next week they will try to bring the old terninal server back on line on one of their modems to see if all works well then so that we can isolate the problem. Do you have any ideas about what this could be????? I am not knowlegable enough on the subject to really diagnose it, but I sure would like to have my SLIP link healthy again! :-) Any ideas would be greatly appreciated!!!! Thanks in advance, Glenn -- Glenn D. Rempe (NeXTMAIL) glenn@iridium.digex.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: pan@math.psu.edu (Garth Payne) Subject: filter to split long lines Message-ID: <CDF8zH.JHD@cse.psu.edu> Sender: news@cse.psu.edu (Usenet) Organization: Penn State Department of Mathematics Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1993 00:50:04 GMT I need a filter that splits long lines but respects words. This is what 'fmt -s' is supposed to do, but it chokes on long lines. 'fold' is no good because it doesn't respect words. My current method is to paste the text into WriteNow and use the option 'save with line breaks', but I'd like to have something I could use from the command line. Thanks. Garth Payne pan@math.psu.edu (No NeXT mail)
From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Newsgrazer - show only subscribed groups??? Date: 16 Sep 1993 01:25:21 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <278fa1$120@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <1993Sep15.203241.28913@alf.uib.no> <278ckr$9a6@news1.digex.net> Originator: jbn35564@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu Thor Legvold asks: > Isn't there a simple way to retrieve only groups which are > subscribed to? Glenn D. Rempe replies: > Try Info -> Preferences -> NewsGroups -> Default View -> List > or > Group -> List View I believe this will only make it so you display the groups you are interested in, not actually limiting downloading the entire group tree on startup. If you switch from List view to Browser view after the program has completed the initial data gathering process, you will see that it takes no more effort to look at the entire group tree than it does your subscribed groups, hence I think that what NG actually does is just download the names of *all* the groups at your news site then act according to whatever view you want (Browser or List) where List view shows you the groups you've got in your .newsrc that aren't commented out and Browser view shows you all the groups on the news site. I believe fixing NG so that it only downloads information for the groups you're subscribed to would require access to NG's source code. If you don't mind not using NG, there are other freely available newsreaders that will only download information on the groups you or users on your machine want to read. Most of these newsreaders provide much more power than NG at the cost of being a CLI app instead of a GUI app. -- J.B. Nicholson-Owens (no NeXTmail please)
From: isbell@cats.ucsc.edu (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Where can I get a version of Kermit that will compile with 3.1 FIP Date: 16 Sep 1993 01:55:49 GMT Organization: Cubic Solutions - NeXT software development and consulting Message-ID: <278h35INNs9@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> References: <273aue$is7@seine.cs.umd.edu> <CDDt60.1G7@andi.org> In article <CDDt60.1G7@andi.org> bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org writes: >NeXTSTEP is already in the Makefiles, however RTS/CTS >flow control was not turned on. I added it in one of the header >files (just grep for rts & NeXT). Frank da Cruz, kermit's author, has pointed out in a private email message that NEXTSTEP uses different device names to detemine whether RTS/CTS flow control is used (/dev/cuf[ab] uses RTS/CTS flow control and /dev/cu[ab] doesn't). Therefore, kermit's ability to control whether RTS/CTS flow control is used doesn't work under NEXTSTEP, so the RTS/CTS flow control setting was removed purposely. Changing kermit's source to add this useless feature will at best have no affect and at worst, will break kermit. "set flow none" works fine. -- Art Isbell Cubic Solutions NeXT Registered Developer NEXTSTEP software development and consulting NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: +1 408 335 1154 USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: +1 408 335 2515
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jag@seguente (Jagdish Narasimhan) Subject: FAX modem and software Message-ID: <1993Sep15.022645.23628@ximage.com> Sender: usenet@ximage.com (Usenet accout) Organization: XImage Corp. Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1993 02:26:45 GMT Hi: I am just setting up a NeXTstation at home....I would like to get recommendationon a modem and software for being able to send and receive faxes from this machine... Any help is appreciated... Thanks jag@ximage.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: wfc@cl.cam.ac.uk (William Clocksin) Subject: App for displaying PICT files? Message-ID: <1993Sep16.181014.9351@infodev.cam.ac.uk> Sender: news@infodev.cam.ac.uk (USENET news) Organization: U of Cambridge, England Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1993 18:10:14 GMT Does anyone have an app that will display PICT files? This is one of the few formats ImageViewer does not seem to handle. ---------------------------------------------------- W.F. Clocksin, Assistant Director of Research, Computer Laboratory, University of Cambridge Pembroke Street, Cambridge CB2 3QG, U.K. Internet: wfc@CL.cam.ac.uk (NeXTMail is acceptable) Tel UK: (0223) 334628. Tel (Int'l): +44 223-334628. Fax UK: (0223) 334678. Fax (Int'l): +44 223-334678.
From: tyf@po.EECS.Berkeley.EDU (Tin-Yau Fung) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: CircuitBuilder in r1.0 Date: 16 Sep 1993 18:43:01 GMT Organization: University of California, at Berkeley Distribution: world Message-ID: <27ac3l$gqu@agate.berkeley.edu> Hi, Could someone please NeXTmail me a copy of CircuitBuilder bundled with r1.0? I have the NeXT Edu CD and I can send you back anything there in return. Thanks. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Tin-Yau Fung @ UC Berkeley Email: tyfung@uclink, tyf@ucsee or tyf@parker.eecs + .berkeley.edu NeXTmail Addict!!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: rob@polestar.facl.mcgill.ca (Robert Macfarlane) Subject: No MIME in 3.2 (was Re: Mail.app in 3.2 to support MIME ???) Message-ID: <1993Sep16.183001.12144@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca Organization: McGill University References: <1993Sep14.214243.27887@nosc.mil> Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1993 18:30:01 GMT In article <1993Sep14.214243.27887@nosc.mil> huck@nise-ch.nosc.mil (Craig Huckabee) writes: > Simple question: > > Will the Mail.app in NeXTStep 3.2 support MIME or is there a mail > application for NeXTStep that will? > > --Craig No. And it's a real shame. It wasn't mentioned in the 'Features' propaganda piece for 3.2 user, and I think it's safe to say NeXT would have mentioned such an important capability. I would pay $$ for a mailer which would do (a) MIME (b) properly 'internet-formatted' message quotes (i.e.) '>' and (c) some sort of rule-based sorting of incoming mail into mailboxes (for mailing lists, etc.) With a nice NeXTstep interface, of course. Rob Macfarlane Faculty of Arts Computer Lab McGill University
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) Subject: Re: App for displaying PICT files? Message-ID: <1993Sep16.185220.21204@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: Stanford University References: <1993Sep16.181014.9351@infodev.cam.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 16 Sep 93 18:52:20 GMT William Clocksin writes > Does anyone have an app that will display PICT files? This is > one of the few formats ImageViewer does not seem to handle. Use David Burrowes' ConvertPICT app, available on the archives, to convert it to an .eps file. -- - Stefano Pagiola Food Research Institute, Stanford University spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged) spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
From: ctm@ardi.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: App for displaying PICT files? Message-ID: <CDGo01.93E@cobra.cs.unm.edu> Date: 16 Sep 93 19:12:04 GMT Article-I.D.: cobra.CDGo01.93E References: <1993Sep16.181014.9351@infodev.cam.ac.uk> Sender: news@cobra.cs.unm.edu Organization: ARDI In article <1993Sep16.181014.9351@infodev.cam.ac.uk> William.Clocksin@cl.cam.ac.uk writes: >Does anyone have an app that will display PICT files? This is one of the few >formats ImageViewer does not seem to handle. Included below is the readme for Convert_PICT available from cs.orst.edu in pub/next/macintosh. I know John has done some more work since this version was released, but I think the new version (which supports filter services) is still in beta. BTW, David John is modest. I don't think the other PICT converters that are out there do all the stuff that his freeware does (of course I could be misinformed, but this is a pet interest of mine). --Cliff[ord T. Matthews] ctm@ardi.com Convert PICT 1.0 a PICT file conversion utility What it is: This utility allows you to convert Macintosh pictures in the PICT format (either PICT I or II) to the eps format on the NeXT. Why it exists: I believe there are other programs out there that do some conversion on PICT files. So, why add another? These are the main reasons: * I wanted a utility that would convert all the contents of a PICT file (rectangles, lines, etc), not just the bitmaps (the app(s) I've seen to date only extract the bitmap part(s)) * I did not want to convert the PICT file to a single bitmap image, for I wanted to retain the `scalability' of the PICT data (so it looked good on printer & screen) * For my own interests, I wanted the program to have the option of generating eps files that were easy for humans to read. * I wanted it to be easy to enhance the conversions without needing to recompile the app (that is, I wanted the PS code, which is crucial to the conversion process, to be easily accessible). Notes about using this utility: Full details about what is not converted perfectly is provided in the help window online. An oversimplified summary would be: Pict Comments are not supported, no inversion operatiors. Limited mode support. (yes, it does the usual stuff (rects, rrects, ovals, arcs, lines polygons, text, regions and bitmaps) pretty well). Credits: This utility was written by David John Burrowes. If you have questions, comments, bugs, or whatever, you can presently (April 1993) find me at the following email addresses: davidjohn@kira.net.netcom.com (NeXT mail welcomed) death@netcom.com (plain unix account. No NeXTmail)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: csp@ohm.york.ac.uk (Colin Perkins) Subject: Re: Compiling tin Message-ID: <1993Sep16.193556.13924@ohm.york.ac.uk> Organization: Computer Systems Engineering Group, University of York, UK. References: <26fdd1$3a5@news.intercon.com> <1993Sep6.140322.3878@julian.uwo.ca> <1993Sep8.215728.8414@ohm.york.ac.uk> <1993Sep10.120133.203@cube.han.de> Date: Thu, 16 Sep 93 19:35:56 GMT martin@cube.han.de wrote: >Colin Perkins (csp@ohm.york.ac.uk) wrote: >: Lance R. Bailey (zaphod@ctrg.rri.uwo.ca) wrote: >: >on 6 Sep 1993 13:19:28 GMT David Casti wrote in comp.sys.next.sysadmin: > >: >> I can't seem to get the latest version of tin compiled on my 3.0 '040 >: >> cube. It dies on > >: >> /bin/ld: Undefined symbols: >: >> _getcwd >: just a single line patch! Near the end of misc.c (in the >: make_post_process_cmd function) there is a call to > >: getcwd(currentdir, sizeof(currentdir)); > >: Change this to > >: get_cwd(currentdir); > >: and all should work! > >well, I have done the same hack a week ago and it works, too. However, >tin 1.2.1 creates a dead.article when I post to a group while tin 1.20 >does not. > >Does this happen on your system also ? It used to happen before I made the modification described above, but the problem seems to have solved itself now... -- Colin Perkins Computer Systems Engineering Group, Email: csp@ohm.york.ac.uk University of York, YO1 5DD, UK. Phone: +44 904 432379
From: curt@doumi.ucr.edu (Curt Burgess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: e-mail address of StatSci, USA Date: 12 Sep 1993 23:12:36 GMT Organization: A poorly-installed InterNetNews site Distribution: usa Message-ID: <270ad4$hcd@galaxy.ucr.edu> References: <1993Sep6.090506.43117@urz.unibas.ch> In article <1993Sep6.090506.43117@urz.unibas.ch> wildi@urz.unibas.ch writes: > Hello, > > does anybody know the e-mail address of the company : > > Statistical Sciences Inc. > 1700 Westlake Ave. N. Suite 500 > Seattle, WA 98109 USA joe@statsci.com (Joe Eisenberg) is a sales rep there and will be able to direct any questions. -- Dr. Curt Burgess, Cognitive Psychology Program Department of Psychology, Univ Calif-Riverside, Riverside, CA 92521-0426 USA Internet: curt@cassandra.ucr.edu <<< NeXT mail ok MaBellNet: (909) 787-2392 FAX: (909) 787-3985
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: edmtl@taxus.uib.no (Thor Legvold) Subject: SUMMARY: NewsGrazer show only subscribed Message-ID: <1993Sep16.215106.21442@alf.uib.no> Sender: edmtl@alf.uib.no (Thor Legvold) Organization: University of Bergen, Norway Date: Thu, 16 Sep 93 21:51:06 GMT The answer to my question regarding configuration of NewsGrazer so that it only retreives subscribed group info was to choose List View in preferences menu of NG. I shall try this later to confirm it works. Too bad though, I really like the browser view best, as I am often browsing through many different groups. Thanks again for the help - NetNews never fails to amaze me. Regards, Thor -- Thor Legvold | This is the strangest life NorNeXT User Group leader | I've ever known... University of Bergen | - Jim Morrison, The Doors
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: oschmid@cube.de (Ottmar Schmid) Subject: Callisto-Multmedia Software Message-ID: <1993Sep16.091454.232@cubenx.cube.de> Sender: oschmid@cubenx.cube.de Organization: Cube Informationssysteme, GmbH Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1993 09:14:54 GMT Has anybody experieneces with the multimedia tool Callisto? (it allows to create interactive publishing applications for CD-I players. A friend of mine send an email to Imagine Multimedia, Inc., but got no reaction. Thanks in advance, Ottmar Email please to oschmid@cube.de
From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Any new DTP apps or word processors coming out? Date: 17 Sep 1993 01:36:27 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <27b4ar$t59@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Originator: jbn35564@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu All I've heard is that RightBrain is coming out with something based on the Text object (is this still the gameplan? If so, why the Text object?) and Pages is coming out with Pages sometime (I haven't heard any word if it's shipping yet, but it could very well be shipping). -- J.B. Nicholson-Owens (no NeXTmail please)
From: buckley@mayo.edu (Paul Buckley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mail.app in 3.2 to support MIME ??? Date: 17 Sep 1993 02:52:45 GMT Organization: Mayo Foundation Message-ID: <27b8pt$17b@fermat.mayo.edu> References: <huck.748134418@nise-ch> In article <huck.748134418@nise-ch> huck@nosc.mil (Craig Huckabee) writes: > steinarb@falch.no (Steinar Bang) writes: > > >>>>>> On 14 Sep 1993 22:01:54 GMT, Hal.Varian@umich.edu said: > > >> In article <1993Sep14.214243.27887@nosc.mil> huck@nise-ch.nosc.mil (Craig > >> Huckabee) writes: > > >>> Will the Mail.app in NeXTStep 3.2 support MIME or is there a mail > >>> application for NeXTStep that will? > Find a copy of MailManager.app by Mark Crispin (University of Washington) They're up to at least v2.3.63 -- _________________________________________ Paul Buckley Mayo Graduate School (NeXT Mail) Guggenheim 14 buckley@mayo.edu 200 First Street SW FAX 507-284-9349 Rochester, MN TEL 507-284-2065 55905 _________________________________________ "This is the America the Kerner Commission warned us about twenty-five years ago". Ed Garvey pretending to be Bill Clinton.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: alibaba@mindvox.phantom.com (Nick Mordanzo) Subject: NS/FIP PGP? Message-ID: <Nc9Z0B5w165w@mindvox.phantom.com> Originator: alibaba@mindvox Sender: news@mindvox.phantom.com Organization: [MindVox] / Phantom Access Technologies / (+1 800-MindVox) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1993 04:44:22 GMT Is there a version of PGP that has been modified to work with NeXTSTEP 486? Also is there some kind of front-end for this thing, I remember something like NXPGP around some of the archives, has it been compiled FAT and to work with the latest version of PGP? thanks $%$%$%$%$%$%$% ($) Ali Baba ($) %$%$%$%$%$%$%$
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: b44729@achilles.ctd.anl.gov (Samuel Pigg) Subject: ppp0.2 difficulties. (ioctl's) Message-ID: <B44729.93Sep17003246@achilles.ctd.anl.gov> Sender: usenet@mcs.anl.gov Organization: /Net/achilles/files3/b44729/.organization Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1993 06:32:46 GMT Has anyone actually gotten the freeware version of ppp to work for them? (merit.edu:pub/ppp/next-ppp0.2.tar.Z version). Using an 030 cube running 3.0 (therefore cua rather than cufa) I am unable to get it to even connect properly. When it connects to the remote host, and the ppp process begins, it dies complaining about: ppp: ioctl(TIOCSETD): No such device or address or ppp: ioctl (SIOCGIFFLAGS): No such device or address Does anyone actually use this version of ppp? If so, what is the script you're using to activate the ppp process? Thanks, Sam
From: jblevins@uniwa.uwa.edu.au (Jim Blevins) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <JBLEVINS.93Sep13165243@uniwa.uwa.edu.au> Control: cancel <JBLEVINS.93Sep13165243@uniwa.uwa.edu.au> Date: 17 Sep 93 13:22:17 Organization: University of Western Australia Distribution: world Message-ID: <JBLEVINS.93Sep17132217@uniwa.uwa.edu.au>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mross@netcom.com (Antigone Press) Subject: Re: FAX modem and software Message-ID: <mrossCDHGp1.9tD@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) References: <1993Sep15.022645.23628@ximage.com> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1993 05:31:48 GMT Jagdish Narasimhan (jag@seguente) wrote: : I am just setting up a NeXTstation at home....I would like to : get recommendationon a modem and software for being able to send and : receive faxes from this machine... Black & White Software <nxfax@bandw.com> will sell you an excellent ZyXEL modem and their even more excellent NXFax software. They are having a $100 rebate sale right now. They are friendly people too! A very satisfied customer. -- -------------- Michael Ross mross@antigone.com (preferred) Antigone Press mross@netcom.com San Francisco CA FAX +1.415.431.3650
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mross@netcom.com (Antigone Press) Subject: Re: No MIME in 3.2 (was Re: Mail.app in 3.2 to support MIME ???) Message-ID: <mrossCDHGx0.A9y@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) References: <1993Sep16.183001.12144@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1993 05:36:36 GMT Robert Macfarlane (rob@polestar.facl.mcgill.ca) wrote: : In article <1993Sep14.214243.27887@nosc.mil> huck@nise-ch.nosc.mil (Craig : Huckabee) writes: : > Will the Mail.app in NeXTStep 3.2 support MIME or is there a mail : > application for NeXTStep that will? : No. And it's a real shame. : It wasn't mentioned in the 'Features' propaganda piece for 3.2 user, and I : think it's safe to say NeXT would have mentioned such an important capability. : I would pay $$ for a mailer which would do (a) MIME (b) properly : 'internet-formatted' message quotes (i.e.) '>' and (c) some sort of rule-based : sorting of incoming mail into mailboxes (for mailing lists, etc.) : With a nice NeXTstep interface, of course. There does exist a NeXTmail to MIME converter, called n2m. You may ftp it from: nexus.yorku.ca:pub/n2m.shar As for "'internet-formatted' message quotes", try TickleServices, available from sonata.cc.purdue.edu. It does all sorts of wonderful things! No NeXTSTEP interface on n2m, though. -- -------------- Michael Ross mross@antigone.com (preferred) Antigone Press mross@netcom.com San Francisco CA FAX +1.415.431.3650
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: nico@imani.cam.org (Nicolas Dore) Subject: Re: No MIME in 3.2 (was Re: Mail.app in 3.2 to support MIME ???) Message-ID: <1993Sep17.050642.12162@imani.cam.org> Sender: nico@imani.cam.org References: <1993Sep16.183001.12144@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1993 05:06:42 GMT In article <1993Sep16.183001.12144@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> rob@polestar.facl.mcgill.ca (Robert Macfarlane) writes: > In article <1993Sep14.214243.27887@nosc.mil> huck@nise-ch.nosc.mil (Craig > Huckabee) writes: > > Simple question: > > > > Will the Mail.app in NeXTStep 3.2 support MIME or is there a mail > > application for NeXTStep that will? > > > > --Craig > > No. And it's a real shame. > > It wasn't mentioned in the 'Features' propaganda piece for 3.2 user, and I > think it's safe to say NeXT would have mentioned such an important capability. > > I would pay $$ for a mailer which would do (a) MIME (b) properly > 'internet-formatted' message quotes (i.e.) '>' and (c) some sort of rule-based > sorting of incoming mail into mailboxes (for mailing lists, etc.) > > With a nice NeXTstep interface, of course. Hi Rob! An English company (Jump in anytime, please!) is working on a NeXTMail-equivalent product, only better. I don't know what the status is. Didn't anything I recall about such features as those you wish. I believe it was Xexos Inc., and mark@xexos.com (Mark Chamberlain) used to do a fair amount of posting about this and other stuff. You may wish to inquire to him. Or maybe they could give us all an update? Ciao > Rob Macfarlane > Faculty of Arts Computer Lab > McGill University Nicolas Dore BTW People were saying BEFORE NG Pro was announced that they would pay $$$ for a supported, enhanced NG. What [insert name of NG Pro makers, 'coz I don't remember] announced would be the price ended up being WAY too $$$ for many. That, without them even seeing it or gauging its benefits to them. Let's hope Xexos (or whoever) delivers at a reasonable price a lot of features (price being dependant on features). Anyway, just an additinonnal thought. -- Nicolas Dore nico@imani.cam.org - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > "Le calembour est la fiente du mot qui vole." < > Victor Hugo <
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: uunet!molly!vlcek (Jim Vlcek) Subject: Appsoft Draw Message-ID: <CDHFzH.6BJ@molly.uucp> Sender: vlcek@molly.uucp (James Vlcek) Organization: The Black Box of Lowertown Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1993 05:16:29 GMT I bought Appsoft Draw v1.0 some time back, when they had a special sale on it for $150. I've used it off and on since then; it's generally decent but has some noticeable bugs. What kind of experiences have people had with Appsoft Draw v2.0? Is it worth it for me to upgrade the version I have? -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jim Vlcek UNIX for $166! uunet!molly!vlcek Novell UnixWare from Information Foundation Beautiful downtown St. Paul (303) 572-6486 sales@if.com
From: malloggi@cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Rubens Malloggi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Virtuoso for NEXTSTEP Date: 17 Sep 1993 11:14:16 GMT Organization: Computer Science Dep. - Milan University Message-ID: <27c668$kd3@ghost.sm.dsi.unimi.it> Hi, does anybody have info on the availability of Virtuoso for NEXTSTEP? I saw it running on an Intel box at NeXTWorld Expo, but after that I had no more news about it. Thanks. ---------------------------------------------------- Rubens MALLOGGI INTERSOFT S.r.l. - NeXT VAD Via Prarostino 16 10143 Torino - Italy Tel.: +39 - 11 - 771.48.88 Fax: +39 - 11 - 771.41.08 NeXT e-mail: malloggi@intersoft.next.it
From: field@galaxy.uci.agh.edu.pl (System Service account) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Sybase tools for NeXT platform Date: 17 Sep 1993 13:25:44 +0200 Organization: University of Mining & Metallurgy Message-ID: <27c6roINNdim@galaxy.uci.agh.edu.pl> Hello, What tools mey be used as alternate for listed below Sybase tools products on NeXT hardware platform: DWB (Data Workbench) APT (Application Toolkit) APT Execute Report Execute SQR Workbench SQR Execute Sybase doesn't have any versions of these products for NeXT. Does anybody have experience with some alternate tools? Thanx Henryk Michalec.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: randall@redfish.atmos.colostate.edu (Dave Randall) Subject: Re: Appsoft Draw Sender: news@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU (News Account) Message-ID: <Sep17.141018.93521@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1993 14:10:18 GMT References: <CDHFzH.6BJ@molly.uucp> Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523 In article <CDHFzH.6BJ@molly.uucp> uunet!molly!vlcek (Jim Vlcek) writes: > I bought Appsoft Draw v1.0 some time back, when they had a special sale on it > for $150. I've used it off and on since then; it's generally decent but has > some noticeable bugs. > > What kind of experiences have people had with Appsoft Draw v2.0? Is it worth > it for me to upgrade the version I have? > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Jim Vlcek UNIX for $166! > uunet!molly!vlcek Novell UnixWare from Information Foundation > Beautiful downtown St. Paul (303) 572-6486 sales@if.com I was not aware that there was a version 2.0. Are you sure? When did it come out?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: cleelacj@agedwards.com (Chris Cleeland) Subject: Re: No MIME in 3.2 (was Re: Mail.app in 3.2 to support MIME ???) Message-ID: <CDI7EC.81v@agedwards.com> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1993 15:08:36 GMT References: <mrossCDHGx0.A9y@netcom.com> Organization: A. G. Edwards & Sons, Inc. Antigone Press (mross@netcom.com) wrote: : There does exist a NeXTmail to MIME converter, called n2m. You may ftp it : from: : nexus.yorku.ca:pub/n2m.shar : As for "'internet-formatted' message quotes", try TickleServices, : available from sonata.cc.purdue.edu. It does all sorts of wonderful things! : No NeXTSTEP interface on n2m, though. Sounds like yet another job for TickleServices... Regarding n2m -- is there a corresponding m2n? Would it be difficult to write based on the code for n2m? -cj -- ============================================================================== Chris Cleeland | Internet: cleelacj@agedwards.com BOS Dev. Team | USnail: 3878 Connecticut St. Louis 63116 | BellNet: (314) 289-5372
From: me@ienext.unl.edu (Dan Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Writing Math `Text' On CD-ROM? Date: 17 Sep 1993 16:54:32 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Message-ID: <27cq49$n2j@crcnis1.unl.edu> I am thinking about starting a rather big project. I would like to write a mathematics `textbook'. However, I don't want to do the same old thing. I would like to write my `text' in electronic form and distribute it on a CD-ROM. An electronic form, of course, allows many possibilities that a book cannot have (e.g. fancy indexing, hypertext, animation, plotting abilities, interaction etc.). As we all know, there are already quite a number of electronic `books' out there. But I don't know if there are any *math* books. Well, I *do* know that there are a number of Mathematica notebooks that are somewhat textbook like. While such notebooks have the power of Mathematica available, they also suffer from its limitations. I am looking for some authoring program which would allow me to display mathematically formattted text (like TeX---Very important!), would allow hypertext linking, provide flexible indexing capabilities, allow programs to be run for demonstration purposes when a user clicks on a button, run animations, include sound, and probably more that I haven't thought of. I am a long-time NeXT user so I would like to do this under NeXTSTEP if possible. (Yes, I know that the marketing potential is not yet there, but maybe it will be some day---and there is always porting that can be done.) Are there any programs on NeXT that could handle this job? Would Xanthus Craftsman work? What about @image?, MediaStation? My biggest concern is the display of mathematical formulas. The formulas would really have to look nice in order for someone to want to learn their math at a computer. Certainly I can get nice formulas from TeX---but can I display them easily under the authoring system, and can I index material like that? Thanks in advance for any information you can give me on this! ---------------------------------------------------------------- Dan Scott me@ienext.unl.edu NeXT mail welcome ----------------------------------------------------------------
From: Hal.Varian@umich.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Writing Math `Text' On CD-ROM? Date: 17 Sep 1993 18:01:42 GMT Organization: University of Michigan - College of Literature, Science, and TheArts Distribution: world Message-ID: <27cu26$q5p@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu> References: <27cq49$n2j@crcnis1.unl.edu> In article <27cq49$n2j@crcnis1.unl.edu> me@ienext.unl.edu (Dan Scott) writes: > I am thinking about starting a rather big project. I would like > to write a mathematics `textbook'. However, I don't want to do > the same old thing. I would like to write my `text' in > electronic form and distribute it on a CD-ROM. > Take a look at "Exploring Mathematics with Mathematica", Addison-Wesley. The whole book is on a CD ROM. Mathematica 2.3 is going to included TeX-like equation formatting. -- Hal.Varian@umich.edu Hal Varian voice: 313-764-2364 Dept of Economics fax: 313-764-2364 Univ of Michigan Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1220
From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Writing Math `Text' On CD-ROM? Date: 17 Sep 1993 14:23:18 -0400 Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742 Message-ID: <27cvam$gtb@seine.cs.umd.edu> References: <27cq49$n2j@crcnis1.unl.edu> Summary: You can paste EPS into a Mathematica notebook Send-To: me@ienext.unl.edu In article <27cq49$n2j@crcnis1.unl.edu> me@ienext.unl.edu writes: > I am thinking about starting a rather big project. I would like > to write a mathematics `textbook'. However, I don't want to do > the same old thing. I would like to write my `text' in > electronic form and distribute it on a CD-ROM. great, > While such notebooks have the power of Mathematica available, > they also suffer from its limitations. which ones do you find most limiting? perhaps there are ways to cope. Mathematica sure seems like a natural for this. > I am looking for some authoring program which would allow me to > display mathematically formattted text (like TeX---Very important!), this you CAN do, though I dont know how well. for example generate the TeX for an equation, use Equation Builder to convert it to EPS and paste it into a graphics cell in Mathematica the problem would be each cell would have to be either built completely with TeX (with Mathematica generating the TeX commands) and pasted into the notebook, or completely with Mathematica, which is reasonably convenient for text paragraphs. if you had a lot of paragraphs of text with in line equations, then this reduces to simply using Latex to write your book and pasting into a Mathematica notebook - which might be ok too. > would allow hypertext linking, good point, ask Wolfram to support it using NS 3.X > provide flexible indexing capabilities, cant say > allow programs to be run for > demonstration purposes when a user clicks on a button, run > animations, include sound, but this is where Mathematica shines. it would be a shame if you had to choose between this and readable equations and links. -- Alex Blakemore alex@cs.umd.edu NeXT mail accepted -------------------------------------------------------------- "Without an engaged and motivated human being at the keyboard, the computer is just another dumb box." William Raspberry
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) Subject: Re: Appsoft Draw Message-ID: <1993Sep17.193132.29439@cs.yale.edu> Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News) Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT References: <CDHFzH.6BJ@molly.uucp> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1993 19:31:32 GMT In article <CDHFzH.6BJ@molly.uucp> uunet!molly!vlcek (Jim Vlcek) writes: > I bought Appsoft Draw v1.0 some time back, when they had a special sale on it > for $150. I've used it off and on since then; it's generally decent but has > some noticeable bugs. > > What kind of experiences have people had with Appsoft Draw v2.0? Is it worth > it for me to upgrade the version I have? v1.02 was the last official release. Avoid the aborted 1.03 release at all costs. -- Nathan "USENET" Janette PPP link from hilbert.csb.yale.edu Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: chuston@nugget.rmNUG.ORG (Chris Huston) Subject: Laser printed checks Message-ID: <1993Sep17.163810.15384@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> Organization: Rocky Mountain NeXT Users' Group Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1993 16:38:10 GMT Hello, I'm looking for a check printing package for ei- ther NeXTSTEP or HP/UX that works with laser printers. I want to take an ascii table and have it printed on checks. A hitch may be that the check stub may have multiple pages for every check. Any suggestions? Thanks, Chris Huston I.S. Manager D.C. Dudley & Associates
From: jfosback@darkwing.uoregon.edu (Jason Fosback) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: SLIP with dynamically-allocated IP addresses Date: 17 Sep 1993 21:25:39 GMT Organization: University of Oregon Distribution: world Message-ID: <27da0j$j3s@pith.uoregon.edu> References: <278kbp$9qe@usenet.rpi.edu> <27ar67$ilg@pith.uoregon.edu> I have submitted a copy of the U of O SLIP configuration to: cs.orst.edu:/pub/next/submissions/UofO_SLIP_configuration.compressed sonata.cc.purdue.edu:/pub/next/submissions/UofO_SLIP_configuration.compressed Here is the included README: Here is the default configuration for the University of Oregon's SLIP network. The config directory included in this distribution contains the configuration information that needs to be located in /usr/dialupip/config. These configuration files are compatible with the most recent version of SLIP from Louis Mamakos (sp?). Of interest is the file login-uonet.tcl. This file contains the script to wait for a dynamically assigned IP address, and then configures the IP address of your machine. I have also included a copy of the standard University of Oregon sendmail.cf file. It's set up in such a way that you can specify a replacement value for your machine name. For example, if your machine name is localhost, outgoing mail is translated from jfosback@localhost to jfosback@darkwing.uoregon.edu, or any other name that you specify. Also please note the simple resolv.conf file. This is a simple name resolver that goes into /etc and points to name servers so that you can resolve name conflicts at home (or wherever else you are). I hope that these can serve as an example of how to configure your machine. -jason ___________________________________________________________________ Jason Fosback, User Support Analyst | No sir, I didn't like it ---- University of Oregon ---- | -R&S Internet: jfosback@oregon.uoregon.edu | Star Trek: NeXT mail: jfosback@darkwing.uoregon.edu | The NeXT Generation...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: imagine.com!michael (Michael Ellis) Subject: Master/Detail problems with DBKit Message-ID: <1993Sep17.211047.1443@imagine.com> Keywords: DBKit, Sybase, Adapter Sender: michael@imagine.com (Michael Ellis) Organization: Imagine Multimedia, Inc., Ann Arbor, MI, USA Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1993 21:10:47 GMT Any DBKit wizards out there? When I create a Master/Detail interface with two DBTableViews the interface works once and then stops working. That is to say, the first time I do a fetch-all both tables are filled but further fetches only fill the master table and selecting master records does not update the detail table. The tables I am using are related one-to-many through a Compound-key. In the release notes for the DBKit in NeXTStep 3.1 there is a reference to a fixed bug (bug #30480) that says: Fetching master-detail data through a relationship that uses a compound key sometimes fails. I am finding that it works once and ALWAYS fails thereafter. Has anyone else had this problem? I am using the connection technique described in 3.1 docs NextDev/Concepts/Database/04_Project.rtfd which uses two DBModules and the detail DBModule is connected to the master table such that the master becomes the root fetch group. I am running NeXTStep 3.1 on an Intel box with the 4.1 limited Sybase server running on a black box which is also running 3.1. Michael Ellis Imagine Multimedia Inc.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXTSTEP 3.1 Black Hardware - what is its size? Message-ID: <CDIDH5.8tA@latcs1.lat.oz.au> From: vincentn@amdahl2.lat.oz.au (Nicole A Vincent) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1993 17:19:53 GMT Sender: news@latcs1.lat.oz.au (news) Organization: Comp Sci, La Trobe Uni, Australia Hi I have just installed NeXTSTEP 3.1 Black Hardware onto my NeXTstation,... It was actually an UPGRADE from 3.0 to 3.1,..... However, I was shocked to find out that it "seems" to take up 50 MB more on the Hard Disk,... Is this the same as what everyone else has experienced, or am I experiencing something unusual? How large (in Megabytes) is the NeXTSTEP 3.1 Black Hardware User Edition,... could someone please outline how much space the Essentials and Extensions should take up, and how much space is required for a full Developer System. Thanx very much for any replies in advance Regards Nicole PS If this is the same as the disk requirements for the NeXTSTEP for Intel Processors edition, then please say so as well,... :-) +--------------------------------------------------------+ | Nicole Vincent | | NeXTmail Accepted and Preferred | | | | email : nicolev@number_one.apana.org.au | | vincentn@amdahl2.lat.oz.au | | cs193597404@lusta.latrobe.edu.au | +--------------------------------------------------------+ | It looked good-natured, she thought; | | Still it had very long claws and a great many teeth, | | So she felt it ought to be treated with respect. | +--------------------------------------------------------+
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) Subject: Mounting an AFP Volume- is NFS needed? Message-ID: <CDIx8x.ByA@utstat.toronto.edu> Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1993 00:26:56 GMT This is an ongoing problem. I have a NeXT on an Appletalk network and I own both uShare and Partner from IPT. uShare sets up the NeXT as an AppleShare server, allows one to print ( if you have uPrint) to an Appletalk printer- and allows a Mac to print to a NeXT printer- and Partner is supposed to allow printing from a NeXT to an Appletalk printer ( ths it does great) and allow a NeXT to mount an AFP volume from an AppleShare server ( or a mac publishing a volume under system 7.x). I have been able to get Partner to print to a printer ( which I already could do in any case) but mounting of an AFP volume fails. One possible reason why mounting an AFP volume from a Mac fails may be that Partner apparently uses NFS to set up mount points. I have the NeXT set up as a standalone computer and have tried every "simple" approach to setting it up as an NFS thing- I simply have no knowledge of NFS/NetInfo. Has anyone encountered this situation? In either case, how would one set up a NeXT so that it could mount volumes via NFS ( and vice versa). I clearly don't want to be a client of an NFS host as there are no NFS computers on the network. Any help would be very appreciated... -- Philip McDunnough University of Toronto philip@utstat.toronto.edu [Where sheep may safely graze...]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: phyd@interaccess.com (Brian Leake) Subject: Re: NeXT Dimension Video experience? References: <1993Sep14.190351.18216@dhhalden.no> Sender: news@interaccess.com (Usenet News) Organization: InterAccess, Chicago's best Internet service provider. Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1993 19:38:47 GMT Message-ID: <1993Sep17.193847.10450@interaccess.com> In article <1993Sep14.190351.18216@dhhalden.no>, Borre Ludvigsen <borrel@ludvigsen.dhhalden.no> wrote: > >Does anyone have any experience of putting video input to the NeXTDimension >onto a "raw" video file as mentioned in Gary Arakaki's documentation for yav? > >- Barre Ludvigsen I don't think it was possible. I put together an improved version of NeXTVideoApp not long ago and found that it just takes too damn long to write the image to a file. It may be possible, however, to store a limited number of images to memory, and dump them out later. This will likely not work either, since 32Mb isn't really even enough for more than a few seconds of video, assuming all is free, and no swapping is occuring. There is also a substantial bottleneck on the NeXTbus in shifting data. The dimention never gives the video frame to the machine per-se, it just passes it through it's own curcuitry and chucks it out of the video out ports, under software control. Sorry if I'm waffling a bit here, just outlining the problems. Originally the board was also to have an MPEG chip, but it was so late that they issued the board without it. Brian Leake. -- _____________________________________________________________________ Image Art "No problems... Only Solutions" Brian Leake phyd@interaccess.com _____________________________________________________________________
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) Subject: Answering Machine Software Message-ID: <1993Sep18.035639.730@weston.com> Sender: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1993 03:56:39 GMT Can someone help me locate answering machine software for black hardware and a Zyxel modem. I thought I saw a posting several months ago. Thanks -- Wes Spears <-------> jspears@weston.com (NeXTMail Welcome) The Weston Group 8524 Highway 6 North, 162, Houston, TX 77095
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: matt@drefla.mese.com (Matt Brandt) Subject: Serial port programming question Message-ID: <1993Sep17.202536.843@drefla.mese.com> Sender: matt@drefla.mese.com Organization: Applied Engineering Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1993 20:25:36 GMT I'm having trouble programming the serial port on my slab. Basically I open the port for RAW mode access and set up the baud rate and stuff and it all works fine until I close the port and re-open it. Then I never get any data back from the port. Transmitting characters works fine both before and after the re-open. The really wierd thing is that when I run the program under the debugger it works ok both times. The only real symptom is that after re-opening the port the read() calls always return zero length (the port is fcntl'ed with FNDELAY). Anyone have any idea what could cause this kind of behavior? It's a little difficult to debug since it works ok under the debugger... matt -- ----------------------------------------------------------- Matt Brandt | A short .sig matt@drefla.mese.com | is a good .sig
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: peter@corsica (Peter Eisch) Subject: Re: NeXT Dimension Video experience? Message-ID: <CDJxIJ.CyL@news2.cis.umn.edu> Sender: news@news2.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: University of Minnesota Hospital and Clinic, Labratory Information Services References: <1993Sep14.190351.18216@dhhalden.no> <1993Sep17.193847.10450@interaccess.com> Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1993 13:21:35 GMT Brian Leake (phyd@interaccess.com) wrote: : In article <1993Sep14.190351.18216@dhhalden.no>, : Borre Ludvigsen <borrel@ludvigsen.dhhalden.no> wrote: : > : >Does anyone have any experience of putting video input to the NeXTDimension : >onto a "raw" video file as mentioned in Gary Arakaki's documentation for yav? : > : >- Barre Ludvigsen : I don't think it was possible. I put together an improved version of : NeXTVideoApp not long ago and found that it just takes too damn long to : write the image to a file. It may be possible, however, to store a limited : number of images to memory, and dump them out later. This will likely not : ... Well, yes and no. I built an app nearly two years ago that grab images as fast as the system can. The will get you about 7 frames per second (fps) for a 64x64 size image down to about 1.8 fps for a full screen grab. Perhaps not the performace necessary. What happens if you make the process more controlled rather than natural? In other words, freeze the frame on your video player, grab the image, save it to disk, step to the next frame, ... If you take a moment and apply some real world constraints pertaining to the raw size of a full size frame of 24-bit video, it may be best to do a little post processing. To follow NeXTIME and the other live video formats it may be best to scale the images down to 320x240 or thereabouts. This would maintain the full video image while only requiring 1/4 the data. If the image has good video qualities (color, saturation, white balance, etc.) the result will be a decent video. Further if the video will be played back on non-dimension systems, it may be worthwhile to write multiple representations of each tiff into each of the tiffs in the animation. (Probably only 2-bit and 12-bit only) This could be done as part of the process that scales the images. My $0.02 peter -- ...future author of: "Safe Cellular Compilations at Speeds Greater Than 140 kph." peter@tahiti.umhc.umn.edu (Peter Eisch) peter.a.eisch@uwrf.edu
From: treedo@bmt.gun.com (Timoshi Reedo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Wingz and too many fonts... Date: 18 Sep 1993 14:19:50 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <199309181912.AA20166@nobugs> Recently I asked about a problem I was having with Wingz - Wingz failed to launch from the viewer, and printed an 'Illegal instruction' when run from the shell. I got a few responses regarding the 'dwrite Wingz WingzDirectory /LocalApps/Wingz.app' fix, which as it turns out I had already set correctly. This did not fix the problem. Turns out that my network has 'too many fonts' - I unmounted my /LocalLibrary folder and Wingz ran fine. Thanks to Ed Wright <ed_wright@gun.com>, Jim Ahokas <jim_ahokas@gun.com> and everyone else who responded. Tim --- Timothy Reed treed@gun.com
From: zmonster@athena.mit.edu (Eric M Hermanson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP 3.1 Black Hardware - what is its size? Date: 18 Sep 1993 20:14:03 GMT Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology Message-ID: <27fq6b$990@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> References: <CDIDH5.8tA@latcs1.lat.oz.au> In article <CDIDH5.8tA@latcs1.lat.oz.au> vincentn@amdahl2.lat.oz.au (Nicole A Vincent) writes: >How large (in Megabytes) is the NeXTSTEP 3.1 Black Hardware User Edition,... >could someone please outline how much space Essentials and Extensions should >take up, and how much space is required for a full Developer System. THIS IS A SUMMARY OF THE REQUIREMENTS FOR NEXTSTEP 3.1 (Intel and Motorola) NEXTSTEP *Requires* 8 MB Memory for 2-bit Greyscale NEXTSTEP *Requires* 12 MB Memory for 8-bit Greyscale NEXTSTEP *Requires* 16 MB Memory for 16-bit Color NeXT *Recommends* 12 MB Memory for 2-bit Greyscale NeXT *Recommends* 16 MB Memory for 8-bit Greyscale NeXT *Recommends* 24 MB Memory for 16-bit Color *SUMMARY* of NEXTSTEP Hard Drive Space *Requirements*: NEXTSTEP *Requires* 120 MB for User Environment NEXTSTEP *Requires* 330 MB for User Environment + Developer Tools NeXT *Recommends* 200 MB For User Environment (full install) NeXT *Recommends* 400 MB For User Environment + Developer Tools (full install) Full User Environment: 136 MB (NeXT *Recommends* 200 MB for User) Compressed User Environment: 109 MB Bare User Environment: 50 MB All Developer Tools: 100 MB (These numbers are the dev TOOLS only) Compressed Dev. Tools: 78 MB Bare Developer Tools: 66 MB FULL USER + DEVELOPER: **236 MB (NeXT *Recommends* 400 MB for User+Dev) Compressed USER + DEV: 187 MB Bare USER + DEVELOPER: 116 MB ** THE ENTIRE USER+DEVELOPER RELEASE OF NEXTSTEP TAKES UP APPROXIMATELY 236 MB *Detailed* Hard Drive Requirements: NEXTSTEP consists of a number of independent packages, some of which can be optionally installed. USER ENVIRONMENT: ** INDICATES OPTIONAL PACKAGE NEXTSTEP Essentials This is the required software, including all the cool NeXT Applications Installed Size 47.1 MB Languages Users can install up to six languages on the system, each one takes up 3 MB English 3MB, Italian, Sweedish, German, French, Spanish **DigitalWebster.pkg This package contains the Digital Webster application, the electronic edition of Webster's Ninth New Collegiate Dictionary. InstalledSize 18.8 MB CompressedSize 16.3 MB **Literature.pkg This package contains the complete works of Shakespeare, the Oxford Dictionary of Quotations, and the pictures for Digital Webster. InstalledSize 40.7 MB CompressedSize 29.9 MB **Documentation.pkg This package contains the NEXTSTEP Network and System Administration manual and the UNIX manual pages. It also contains the complete set of PostScript Printer Description (PPD) files. InstalledSize 18 MB CompressedSize 8 MB **NeXTTeX.pkg This is a full implementation of TeX (LaTeX) and METAFONT. InstalledSize 8.1 MB CompressedSize 4.5 MB ============================================================================= TOTAL USER ENVIRONMENT: 136 MB Full Install 109 MB Compressed Optional Stuff 50 MB No Optional Software DEVELOPER TOOLS: ** INDICATES OPTIONAL PACKAGE DeveloperTools.pkg This package contains applications and files you need for NEXTSTEP development. InstalledSize 36.4 MB CompressedSize 18.6 MB DeveloperLibs.pkg This package contains software libraries you need to develop NEXTSTEP software. InstalledSize 30 MB CompressedSize 14.5 MB **DeveloperDoc.pkg This package contains the on-line edition of the NEXTSTEP Developer's Library. InstalledSize 30 MB CompressedSize 10 MB **Demonstrations.pkg This package contains demonstration applications and images. InstalledSize 3 MB CompressedSize 2 MB ============================================================================= TOTAL DEVELOPER TOOLS: 100 MB Size of All Developer Tools 78 MB Size with Optional Stuff Compressed 66 MB Size with no Optional Software Installed
From: pgriffin@uful07.phys.ufl.edu (Paul A. Griffin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: BackSpace CornerView.[hm] Date: 18 Sep 1993 20:40:37 GMT Organization: University of Florida, Gainesville Message-ID: <27fro5INNp0v@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu> References: <2754o7$2hf@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <1993Sep15.155329.7107@imani.cam.org> In article <1993Sep15.155329.7107@imani.cam.org> nico@imani.cam.org (Nicolas Dore) writes: >In article <2754o7$2hf@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> >jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Joseph W Reiss) writes: Wish list stuff deleted ... >> 3) Separate selections for background and screen saver modules >> - Someone emailed me once upon a time and said they'd done this and >> just had to finish writing some background modules to do some >> image tiling stuff before they uploaded it to the ftp sites, but >> I haven't heard anything more about that for a while now > >> So, any enterprising NEXTSTEP programmers out there care to tackle any >> of these challenges? More stuff deleted ... I have submitted a hack of the BackSpace source that comes with the 3.1 developer cd-rom to the Oregon State and Munich (Muenchen) archives. It lets one use different BackSpace modules for background and screen saver modes. (BackSpaceDuo.tar.Z and BackSpaceDuo.README are now in pub/next/submissions of cs.orst.edu, and pub/comp/next/submissions of ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de .) I use a heavily hacked version of Aquarium, by Brian Glaeske, as my background module. The fish float around on the usual dark gray background of my nextstation, making this module unsuitable for screen saver duties. (I guess I should post this module eventually.) Being able to differentiate between background and screen saver modules opens up a new vista for BackSpace hackers. It would be nice if someone could convert "BackGround", Scott Hess's tiff tiler, into a BackSpace module. Along a similar line, I would like to see a GIF viewer module. I have not had the time do do this yet. --Paul -- Paul A. Griffin, pgriffin@phys.ufl.edu Physics Department, University of Florida, Gainesville, FL, 32611
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: peter@corsica (Peter Eisch) Subject: Re: BackSpace CornerView.[hm] Message-ID: <CDKn7s.731@news.cis.umn.edu> Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: University of Minnesota Hospital and Clinic, Labratory Information Services References: <2754o7$2hf@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <1993Sep15.155329.7107@imani.cam.org> <27fro5INNp0v@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu> Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1993 22:43:23 GMT Paul A. Griffin (pgriffin@uful07.phys.ufl.edu) wrote: : I use a heavily hacked version of Aquarium, by Brian Glaeske, as my : background module. The fish float around on the usual dark gray background : of my nextstation, making this module unsuitable for screen saver duties. : (I guess I should post this module eventually.) Why not have the fish float on the user selected background 'color'? dread NeXT1 BackgroundColor You could register a default color appropriate to what NeXT ships as a default. peter -- ...future author of: "Safe Cellular Compilations at Speeds Greater Than 140 kph." peter@tahiti.umhc.umn.edu (Peter Eisch) peter.a.eisch@uwrf.edu
From: jimw@bonds.EBay.Sun.COM (James Wilson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXT Software to convert EPS/TIFF images to PICT/BMP Date: 19 Sep 1993 02:33:26 GMT Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc. Distribution: usa Message-ID: <27ggdm$6qc@male.EBay.Sun.COM> I'm looking for software on the NeXT that allows conversion of EPS or TIFF images to PICT or BMP format. The software will have to convert 50-80 images each night, so it would have to run from a shell script without prompting the user for any input. If you know of any software that meets this requirement, please send me email. Thanks in advance, James Wilson
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXT Donald Duck Demo for Intel? Message-ID: <Sep.19.02.10.17.1993.7457@gandalf.rutgers.edu> Date: 19 Sep 93 06:10:18 GMT Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J. Hi All, Does anyone out there know where one can get that cool demo app that NeXT often uses?? The one with the ferrari, donald duck and the motoring cubic monolith (renderman). I think it may have been called composite, but I may easily be wrong. I had a copy of this on my black hardware and would love a copy that would run on my intel platform. Its a neeto thing to show off and help sell some more copies of NS :) Anyway, any help in getting this app would be appreciated. Be well. Later, John
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: nicolev@number_one.apana.org.au Subject: What is the latest release (version) of CNews.app for NS3.1? Message-ID: <CDLpwp.9E@number_one.apana.org.au> Sender: nicolev@number_one.apana.org.au (Nicole A Vincent) Organization: Cafe Seacombe,.... (-: :-) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1993 12:41:12 GMT Hi Could someone please advise as to the most recent version of CNews.app for NS3.1,... at present I am using version 2.0,... Thanx for any replies in advance. Regards Nicole
From: qiu@tree.egr.uh.edu (Feng Qiu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Boot to DOS from a second hard disk? Date: 19 Sep 1993 18:56:50 GMT Organization: University of Houston Message-ID: <27ia1i$857@menudo.uh.edu> My system is a 486/DX2 66MHz with a 525 M hard disk loaded with NeXTStep3.1. I have a second hard disk bootable for DOS and Windows but without NeXTStep partition. My question is how can you boot to the second hard disk to DOS? Now in order to run DOS(I have no SoftPC) I have to disconnect the hard disk for NeXTStep and set it at master mode then reboot. Any opinions? Fen qiu@tree.egr.uh.edu
From: glenn@rightbrain.com (Glenn Reid) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.misc Subject: Turn your NeXT into a Mac !!? Message-ID: <1335@rtbrain.rightbrain.com> Date: 19 Sep 93 20:44:40 GMT Sender: glenn@rightbrain.com Followup-To: comp.sys.next.advocacy The October issue of Publish magazine has a very interesting little tidbit in the "Technology News Beat" column. I won't type in the precise text, but it says that Quix Computerware (whoever they are) has a box called Daydream ROM box that will run a COMPLETE Macintosh 7.1 OPERATING SYSTEM instead of NeXTSTEP. It apparently still supports all SCSI devices and ethernet, and "will turn a NeXTstation or NeXTcube 040 into the performance equivalent of a Quadra 900 and 950, respectively. It uses old Macintosh LC ROMs. Very interesting. They don't, however, provide any contact information for Quix Computerware. Has anybody heard of this thing or the company that makes it? -- Glenn Reid NeXTmail: glenn@rightbrain.com RightBrain Software 415-326-2974 (NeXTfax 326-2977) Palo Alto, California Electronic Frontier Foundation, member #054
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: nicolev@number_one.apana.org.au Subject: Date application from 2.0 Message-ID: <CDM4tn.1F3@number_one.apana.org.au> Keywords: Date application lost find etc,... Sender: nicolev@number_one.apana.org.au (Nicole A Vincent) Organization: Cafe Seacombe - the Virtual NeXTSTEP Cafe Downunder. Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1993 18:03:23 GMT Hi Does anybody have, or does anybody know of where I can pick up a copy of the late NeXTSTEP 2.0 application Date which was part of the Examples bundled with the release,... it was basically a smart calendar which could send reminder mails and so forth. After upgrading to 3.1 I seem to have lost the application somewhere,... Thanx for all responces in advance. Regards Nicole +--------------------------------------------------------+ | Nicole Vincent | | NeXTmail Accepted and Preferred | | | | email : nicolev@number_one.apana.org.au | | vincentn@amdahl2.lat.oz.au | | cs193597404@lusta.latrobe.edu.au | +--------------------------------------------------------+ | It looked good-natured, she thought; | | Still it had very long claws and a great many teeth, | | So she felt it ought to be treated with respect. | +--------------------------------------------------------+
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: tutui@ics.kula.kyoto-u.ac.jp (Takashi TSUTSUI) Subject: NSFIP worked fine with PCI + 805 on PCI Message-ID: <TUTUI.93Sep20111426@pipi.ics.kula.kyoto-u.ac.jp> Sender: news@kuis.kyoto-u.ac.jp Organization: Dept. of Medinfo. kyoto Univ. Hospital Distribution: comp Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1993 02:14:26 GMT Ns FIP worked fine with PCI MB + 805 PCI Display card at VGA/SVGA mode + Adaptec 1542B/C on isa. The Mb have phoenix bios for PCI. The performance is good enough but I have not enough memory to use NSFIP, my memory size is 4MB * 2, I still cannot figure out the true performance of the system. NeXTSTEP worked fine with colour. :o The MB is made in thailand, using intel Version 2 saturn chipset, there are no further large chips on the MB, except NCR SCSI II IF, 256kb write back Cache (expandable to 512), and 2 bank 32bit*2*2 simm slots. I have heard that there are some problems on the 'data acknowledge?' when used with OS2. But I use nextstep without problems. I forgot the brand of the MB, but there seems only 2 vendors of MB on PCI market in Thailand. My one have a title PCI system... on the board. I will try on PCI IDE cache card for the NSFIP. I will make report on further detail. -- TAKASHI Tsutsui M.D. tutui@silk.imel.kyoto-u.ac.jp Dept. of Medical Informatics ,KYOTO Univ. Hospital SAKYO-ku KYOTO JAPAN Zip 606 Phone +81-75-751-3647 Fax +81-75-771-3826
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (Willem van Schaik) Subject: Re: FAX modem and software Message-ID: <1993Sep20.063351.12453@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl> Sender: news@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (USENET News System) Organization: Philips Communications & Processing Services, Eindhoven References: <1993Sep15.022645.23628@ximage.com> <mrossCDHGp1.9tD@netcom.com> Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1993 06:33:51 GMT mross@netcom.com (Antigone Press) writes: >Jagdish Narasimhan (jag@seguente) wrote: >: I am just setting up a NeXTstation at home....I would like to >: get recommendationon a modem and software for being able to send and >: receive faxes from this machine... >Black & White Software <nxfax@bandw.com> will sell you an excellent ZyXEL >modem and their even more excellent NXFax software. They are having a $100 >rebate sale right now. They are friendly people too! I'm in the same position, looking for a Fax/Data modem. However, what confuses me, if extra software is required. Is it enough just to buy a Hayes-compatible + Group 1 and 3 compatible modem or is the game more complicated. What makes it all very confusing is that when you look at the modems listed in PrintManager, there are only two and rather uncommon ones. So to frase my question differently, is a package like NXFax required or just handy. Second question: lots of people recommend Practical Periferals or ZyXEL modems, but are they also suitable for European (Dutch) PTTs and are can you buy them in Europe. If anyone has any experience with these problems, please post or mail, thanks. Willem
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP 3.1 Black Hardware - what is its size? Date: 20 Sep 1993 08:58:01 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <27jraq$e8d@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <27fq6b$990@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> What follows is part of an email message I sent to the original poster: (original poster writes:) > It was actually an UPGRADE from 3.0 to 3.1,..... > > However, I was shocked to find out that it "seems" to take up 50 MB > more on the Hard Disk,... Is this the same as what everyone else > has experienced, or am I experiencing something unusual? There was an article on this in comp.sys.next.bugs a few weeks ago. Yes, probably everyone experiences it. Some of it is goof-ups in the installation (goof-ups which were also in the NS-3.0 upgrade, if you upgraded from NS-2.x), some of it is added size due to more Intel-related support being included. A number of include files got larger, for instance, due to Intel-related code. You can reduce the disk usage a lot by: 1) log in as root 2) Look under your /NextLibrary/Receipts directory. You will see receipts in it for every (human) language that NeXT supports, even those that you did not install. For every language that you do *not* want, double-click on the matching package file. When the installer comes up, click on the "Delete" button. 3) Look in directory /NextLibrary/References/Webster-Dictionary If you have a file named Dictionary *and* a file named CompactDictionary, then destroy the one named CompactDictionary. Note that a few European languages did get considerably bigger in NS-3.1, so if you *are* including those languages then the size NeXTSTEP uses will go up on you. One of the ones that grew a lot was German, the other one was probably French. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: kho@hubble.fokus.gmd.de (Klaus Hofrichter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: MPEG Player for NS/I ? Keywords: MPEG, Video, NS/I Intel Message-ID: <1993Sep20.122405.3587@fokus.gmd.de> Date: 20 Sep 93 12:24:05 GMT Sender: news@fokus.gmd.de (News system) Organization: GMD-Fokus Hi folks, I have tried to compile an run mpeg_play from Gary K. Arakaki (thank you for the sources!) on NS/I, and - what a suprise - it works. But the colors are not correct. Is there any patch available? Gary has no access to a NeXT machine, so he can't help. The performance is ok, with >10 Frames/Sec on a non-VBL Nec PowerMate 66MHz. Any experience outside with local bus graphics? - Klaus ---- GMD Fokus (Research Corporation for Mathematics and Data Processing) Klaus Hofrichter (kho@fokus.gmd.de)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) Subject: Other Risk Computer players beside Chaotic Message-ID: <1993Sep19.010859.502@weston.com> Sender: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1993 01:08:59 GMT I wondered if anyone had written, or had in their posession any other player types for the computer player in Risk. If you do, please send that .cp folder, or send me a message. Thanks Wes Spears -- Wes Spears <-------> jspears@weston.com (NeXTMail Welcome) The Weston Group 8524 Highway 6 North, 162, Houston, TX 77095
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: verket@venice.sedd.trw.com (Paul Verket) Subject: Re: FAX modem and software Message-ID: <1993Sep20.163427.12806@venice.sedd.trw.com> Organization: TRW Systems Engineering & Development Division, Carson, CA References: <1993Sep15.022645.23628@ximage.com> <mrossCDHGp1.9tD@netcom.com> <1993Sep20.063351.12453@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl> Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1993 16:34:27 GMT Willem van Schaik (schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl) wrote: : mross@netcom.com (Antigone Press) writes: : >Black & White Software <nxfax@bandw.com> will sell you an excellent ZyXEL : >modem and their even more excellent NXFax software. They are having a $100 : >rebate sale right now. They are friendly people too! : I'm in the same position, looking for a Fax/Data modem. However, what : confuses me, if extra software is required. Is it enough just to buy : a Hayes-compatible + Group 1 and 3 compatible modem or is the game : more complicated. ... The NXFax software is often required. While the Class II fax software spec. tightened down the interface quite a bit, there are still quirks that caused _my_ class II modem to fail. I can personnally attest to the fact that the NXFax people are _great_ on support as my modem will be supported in their next version. For details on NXFax and what modems they support contact info@bandw.com BTW, the additional functionality that NXFax adds to the usability of the modem by sharing the line with other applications makes the package well worth the cost. Incoming calls can be routed to a login prompt or to the fax receive program. Outgoing applications like slip and kermit also work seemlessly. A happy customer... Paul Verket (NeXTmail ok)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: W.H.Edmondson@cs.bham.ac.uk (William Edmondson) Subject: Next software for pcs Message-ID: <CDnvBK.n0I@cs.bham.ac.uk> Sender: news@cs.bham.ac.uk Organization: School of Computer Science, The University of Birmingham, UK Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1993 16:33:20 GMT I'm looking for a replacement for Vista eXceed/W which is flakey. Someone recommended I try Next software - could anyone oblige me with some details - what do I need? How much...... My Pc is an Apricot xen-lsII, with a cdrom drive. Apart from PC usage (running Windows3.1) I use it as an x-term. Please reply direct to my email address. Ta. WILLIAM
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: lorinr@altsys.com (Lorin Rivers III) Subject: Re: Virtuoso for NEXTSTEP Message-ID: <1993Sep20.155924.1987@altsys.com> Organization: Altsys Corporation, Richardson, TX References: <27c668$kd3@ghost.sm.dsi.unimi.it> Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1993 15:59:24 GMT In article <27c668$kd3@ghost.sm.dsi.unimi.it> malloggi@cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Rubens Malloggi) writes: >Hi, > >does anybody have info on the availability of Virtuoso for NEXTSTEP? >I saw it running on an Intel box at NeXTWorld Expo, but after that I had >no more news about it. > >Thanks. >---------------------------------------------------- >Rubens MALLOGGI >INTERSOFT S.r.l. - NeXT VAD >Via Prarostino 16 >10143 Torino - Italy >Tel.: +39 - 11 - 771.48.88 >Fax: +39 - 11 - 771.41.08 > >NeXT e-mail: malloggi@intersoft.next.it We are currently working on a release version of Virtuoso 1.01. It will be fat, that is run on both Intel and NeXT hardware. All registered users will receive upgrade info in the mail (so send in your registration card if you haven't already). I am sorry, but I don't have a firm release date. It should be soon. Please contact me if you have further questions! -- Lorin Rivers Lorin_Rivers@altsys.com NEXTSTEP Sales Manager 214.680.2518 269 W. Renner Parkway NeXT Mail Expected Richardson, Texas 75080 I said it, not my boss
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: gtoews@fulford.UVic.CA (Greg Toews) Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP 3.1 Black Hardware - what is its size? Message-ID: <1993Sep20.183808.11462@sol.UVic.CA> Sender: news@sol.UVic.CA Organization: University of Victoria References: <27jraq$e8d@usenet.rpi.edu> Date: Mon, 20 Sep 93 18:38:08 GMT I read awhile ago that some people were NOT using the upgrade method but were instead just wiping their drives clean and doing a build disk from the 3.0 CD. I have the instructions for this somewhere but what I was wondering is, can I do this with the 3.1 CDs. I have ordered the user and developer 3.1 upgrade, so I want to know if I can do the following: (in order to go from 2.2 -> 3.1) - copy my personal files/directories/apps etc. to floppies - somehow wipe the drive clean - build my disk from the 3.1 CDs Any help would be appreciated.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: BrianW@SoundS.WA.com (Brian Willoughby) Subject: Re: PopUpLists Message-ID: <CDo0E0.E2B@sounds.wa.com> Sender: brianw@sounds.wa.com (Brian Willoughby) Organization: Sound Consulting, Bellevue, WA, USA References: <26enohINNrua@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1993 18:22:48 GMT Jas-Russell writes | I didn't see anywhere in the documentation where they | mentioned that for every PopUpList there is really | a Button AND a PopUpList. | | Now I understand that the covering Button informs the | accomanying PopUpList of its own title. | | Therefore adding to a PopUpList an item which you | want selected requires both: | | [myPopUpList addItem: myNewTitle] | [myPopUpListsCoverButton setTitle: myNewTitle] | | Just these two calls make the PopUpList have the new item | AND make the PopUpList select the item with the new title, | AND make the cover button show the new title. | | Will Russell That last paragraph is not entirely true. The item will not be selected until *after* you click on the button. For most cases, this doesn't really matter, because most programs do not directly access the PopUpList except in response to Action methods (which will, of course, only occur after the mouse click). However, if your program does save the PopUpList id and message it directly to determine the selected item, you'll probably find that it isn't changed by -addItem:, and certainly not by the Button when it receives -setTitle:. This is from memory, and I haven't coded up a test program to verify what I just said. Whether or not anyone actually wanted to hear my conjecture remains to be seen :-) -- Brian Willoughby Software Design Engineer, BSEE from NCSU NeXTmail welcome Sound Consulting: Software Design and Development BrianW@SoundS.WA.com Bellevue, WA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: chris@iastate.edu (Chris Wong) Subject: Re: Where can I get a version of Kermit that will compile with 3.1 FIP Message-ID: <chris.748554299@du139-202.cc.iastate.edu> Sender: news@news.iastate.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA References: <CDB8zF.37n@unix.portal.com> <273aue$is7@seine.cs.umd.edu> Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1993 19:44:59 GMT In <273aue$is7@seine.cs.umd.edu> alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore) writes: >In article <CDB8zF.37n@unix.portal.com> wwright@shell.portal.com (Bradly William Wright) writes: > >> Which FTP site has a version of kermit that will compile cleanly under >> 3.1 FIP. I pulled a version from cs.orst.edu that doesn't compile. >the latest binary for black and white hardware (and about everything else ever made) >can be found on watson.columbia.edu >you need to read the README files to decipher the naming convention >docs, man pages and source is there too. >I have no idea if it requires any tricks to compile. >why bother if someone already has? >its not like kermit needs to be setuid root or anything. If you complied the sources yourself, type: cp makefile Makefile make next make install Advice: read the makefile. -- Chris Wong | "Hardware is supposed to serve Software." chris@iastate.edu | Computer Engineering & Computer Science twba8@isuvax.iastate.edu | Iowa State University of Science and Technology
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: opus@ipnh.mv.com (David C. Jedlinsky) Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP 3.1 Black Hardware - what is its size? References: <27jraq$e8d@usenet.rpi.edu> <1993Sep20.183808.11462@sol.UVic.CA> Sender: usenet@mv.mv.com (Rob Chesler) Organization: <Insert Penguin Noise Here> Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1993 19:56:44 GMT Message-ID: <CDo4qL.Goo@mv.mv.com> In article <1993Sep20.183808.11462@sol.UVic.CA> gtoews@fulford.UVic.CA (Greg Toews) writes: > >I read awhile ago that some people were NOT using the upgrade method but were >instead just wiping their drives clean and doing a build disk from the 3.0 >CD. I have the instructions for this somewhere but what I was wondering is, >can I do this with the 3.1 CDs. > >I have ordered the user and developer 3.1 upgrade, so I want to know if I can >do the following: (in order to go from 2.2 -> 3.1) > >- copy my personal files/directories/apps etc. to floppies >- somehow wipe the drive clean >- build my disk from the 3.1 CDs > >Any help would be appreciated. Yes, you can do this. Make your backup, then boot from the 3.1 CDROM. It will warn you that everything is going to be trashed, asks a few more questions, then does it. Reboot and restore your customizations, and you have 3.1 (user) installed. 3.1 (developer) can be installed via the Installer.app, after you've rebooted. This is documented in the 3.1 Release Notes, along with the appropriate monitor commands to boot from the CDROM. -Dave Jedlinsky opus@ipnh.mv.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: silbar@cantina.lanl.gov (Dick Silbar) Subject: Re: NSintel and Canon bj-200 printer? Message-ID: <1993Sep20.215044.3228@newshost.lanl.gov> Sender: news@newshost.lanl.gov Organization: Los Alamos National Lab References: <1993Sep11.105039.3234@next.cambridge.ma.us> Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1993 21:50:44 GMT In article <1993Sep11.105039.3234@next.cambridge.ma.us> simsong@next.cambridge.ma.us (Simson L. Garfinkel) writes: > In article <oZFN0B1w165w@mindvox.phantom.com> schwartz@mindvox.phantom.com > (Dave Schwartz) writes: > > I have installed nextstep 3.1 and found that it only support postscript > > printers. Is there some sort of driver either public domain or > > commercially supported to allow the Canon BJ-200 to work under NS? its a > > very nice inkjet, supports 360dpi, and works well, if it did work under ns > > that is! > > Dots from D'Arts (and distributed by Aelembic) works very well. Look for a > review in an upcoming issue of NeXTWORLD. > > -simson > -- > > .................................................................simson But, apparently, the d"Arts people aren't going to support the Canon BubbleJets on Intel hardware! [Let's see now, I've never drawn one of these unhappy faces: :-( Ok, that works!] -- Dick Silbar (NeXTMail OK) 505-667-5253
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: davis@sonata.cc.purdue.edu (Robert Davis) Subject: Re: Where can I get a version of Kermit that will compile with 3.1 FIP Message-ID: <CDoAs6.25M@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> Sender: news@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (USENET News) Organization: Purdue University References: <CDB8zF.37n@unix.portal.com> <273aue$is7@seine.cs.umd.edu> <chris.748554299@du139-202.cc.iastate.edu> Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1993 22:07:17 GMT In article <chris.748554299@du139-202.cc.iastate.edu> chris@iastate.edu (Chris Wong) writes: > >>I have no idea if it requires any tricks to compile. >>why bother if someone already has? >>its not like kermit needs to be setuid root or anything. > >If you complied the sources yourself, >type: > cp makefile Makefile > make next > make install > I'd suggest a 'make nextc' instead of 'make next'. That will include curses support which will allow you to use the command 'set display fullscreen' which gives you some nifty statistics during final transfers (like estimated time remaining, etc.) Rob -- | Robert Davis davis@sonata.cc.purdue.edu | "Look up, Hannah." NeXT Mail accepted --
From: scwg0600@ih-nxt01.cso.uiuc.edu (Steven C Weintz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NSintel and Canon bj-200 printer? Date: 20 Sep 1993 23:43:26 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <27lf6u$5bt@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <1993Sep20.215044.3228@newshost.lanl.gov> In article <1993Sep20.215044.3228@newshost.lanl.gov> silbar@cantina.lanl.gov (Dick Silbar) writes: > In article <1993Sep11.105039.3234@next.cambridge.ma.us> > simsong@next.cambridge.ma.us (Simson L. Garfinkel) writes: > > In article <oZFN0B1w165w@mindvox.phantom.com> schwartz@mindvox.phantom.com > > (Dave Schwartz) writes: [mucho munchage] > But, apparently, the d"Arts people aren't going to support the Canon BubbleJets > on Intel hardware! [Let's see now, I've never drawn one of these unhappy > faces: :-( Ok, that works!] This is sorta tangential, but I recall reading a thoughtful post here a few weeks ago from someone regarding the Canon-brand version of the NeXT Color Printer. What I remember is that the writer said that the driver implementation for Canon's own printer was much better - more bits per pixel maybe? It's been a while and now i can't find the article. Any light shed is appreciated. Steve Weintz scwg0600@sumter.cso.uiuc.edu
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago, ADN Computer Center Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1993 16:24:03 CDT From: <U54876@uicvm.uic.edu> Message-ID: <93263.162403U54876@uicvm.uic.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: 3.1 upgrade for black hardware? i seem to have lost all my info regarding the educational upgrade to 3.1 for black hardware, and it's getting very close to september 30th. can anyone clue me in (e-mail because this has been posted before) to how i go about getting my campus bookstore to order the upgrade? i know that NACSCORP can be reached at 1.800.321.3883, but i don't know the correct ISBN # or pricing for the *black hardware* upgrade. also, could anyone who has actually received the upgrade get in touch with me so i know it can be done? sorry for asking about old info... -tom nawara nirvana@boss.math.uic.edu ideaLABS 708.383.9858
From: alex@garnet.msen.com (Alex Popadich) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Mathematica installation help Date: 21 Sep 1993 00:56:15 GMT Organization: Msen, Inc. -- Ann Arbor, MI (account info: +1 313 998-4562) Message-ID: <27ljff$kru@nigel.msen.com> Can anyone please help me find a place to get support from wolfram on the internet. Is there a support site, e.g. an FTP site where I can get FAQs and any other material for Mathematica. My real problem is that I've lost my installation instructions for Mathematica 2.0 for my NeXT computer. Frankly, I can't remember if the installation instructions came as an online file or if it was in the folder of documentation supplied with my package. If anyone can help me find an electronic version of the installation guide I would really appreciate it. -- alex
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Quick Guide to the comp.sys.next.* newsgroups Date: 20 Sep 1993 23:04:59 -0400 Organization: Next Announcements Message-ID: <27lr0p$khb@digifix.digifix.com> The current menagerie: comp.sys.next.advocacy This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. comp.sys.next.announce Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. comp.sys.next.bugs A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well. comp.sys.next.hardware Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. comp.sys.next.marketplace NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. comp.sys.next.misc For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! comp.sys.next.programmer Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. comp.sys.next.software This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. comp.sys.next.sysadmin Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. related Newsgroups comp.soft-sys.nextstep Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. comp.lang.objective-c Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. comp.object Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Written by: Eric P. Scott eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU Minor editing: Scott Anguish Additions from: Greg Anderson (Greg_Anderson@afs.com) and Michael Pizolato (Michael_Pizolato@afs.com)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: nicolev@number_one.apana.org.au Subject: Thank you to all those who replied,... Message-ID: <CDowE5.419@number_one.apana.org.au> Sender: nicolev@number_one.apana.org.au (Nicole A Vincent) Organization: Cafe Seacombe - the Virtual NeXTSTEP Cafe Downunder. Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1993 05:54:04 GMT Hi Just a "thank you" to all those who replied to my request to send me the 2.0 bundled application Date. I got around 9 to 10 people sending me the actual app, and another 20 or so offering to send it,... Overall it is very "heart-warming" :-) I can not help thinking that NeXT should re-bundle Date together with its sources with NS3.2. It is an easy to use, no-frills productivity app. Maybe all those who feel strongly enough about seeing Date re-bundled with NS3.2 could send an email to NeXT indicating this :-) ,...... just a suggestion. Thanx again, and happy netting Regards Nicole +--------------------------------------------------------+ | Nicole Vincent | | NeXTmail Accepted and Preferred | | | | email : nicolev@number_one.apana.org.au | | vincentn@amdahl2.lat.oz.au | | cs193597404@lusta.latrobe.edu.au | +--------------------------------------------------------+ | It looked good-natured, she thought; | | Still it had very long claws and a great many teeth, | | So she felt it ought to be treated with respect. | +--------------------------------------------------------+
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: seungwoo@hecto.cs.umn.edu (Seung-Woo Kim) Subject: latex Message-ID: <seungwoo.748595800@hecto> Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1993 07:16:40 GMT I accedentally removed tex installation package from my slab. Is there any place where I can ftp it again? Thanks in advance. Seung-Woo
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) Subject: Re: No MIME in 3.2 (was Re: Mail.app in 3.2 to support MIME ???) In-Reply-To: rob@polestar.facl.mcgill.ca's message of Thu, 16 Sep 1993 18:30:01 GMT To: rob@polestar.facl.mcgill.ca (Robert Macfarlane) Message-ID: <CEDMAN.93Sep20191301@capitalist.princeton.edu> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University References: <1993Sep14.214243.27887@nosc.mil> <1993Sep16.183001.12144@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1993 23:13:01 GMT In article <1993Sep16.183001.12144@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> rob@polestar.facl.mcgill.ca (Robert Macfarlane) writes: In article <1993Sep14.214243.27887@nosc.mil> huck@nise-ch.nosc.mil (Craig Huckabee) writes: > Simple question: > > Will the Mail.app in NeXTStep 3.2 support MIME or is there a mail > application for NeXTStep that will? > > --Craig No. And it's a real shame. It wasn't mentioned in the 'Features' propaganda piece for 3.2 user, and I think it's safe to say NeXT would have mentioned such an important capability. I would pay $$ for a mailer which would do (a) MIME (b) properly 'internet-formatted' message quotes (i.e.) '>' and (c) some sort of rule-based sorting of incoming mail into mailboxes (for mailing lists, etc.) With a nice NeXTstep interface, of course. Well, you can have at least (b) and (c) today with Mail.app. (b) Any number of PD programs will provide services which do mail formatting for you at the drop of a command key. Of all of them probably the most powerful and versatile is TickleServices.app. (c) Either procmail or deliver will deliver this in conjunction with the Mail.app utilities. (a) This could also be added to Mail.app fairly easily. All you need to do is write a NeXTmail to MIME filter and stick it in the Mail.app Mailer field and a MIME to NeXTmail filter and instruct procmail to apply it to incoming MIME mail. Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy From: john@wpa.com (John Bartley) Subject: The future of FrameMaker for NEXTSTEP Message-ID: <CDou5G.EB6@nimno.wpa.com> Sender: john@nimno.wpa.com (John Bartley) Organization: Workgroup Productivity Associates Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1993 05:05:39 GMT I'd like to pass along some comments I've received from Frame Technology with regard to future upgrades for NEXTSTEP users. I've been holding out hope for a long time, but it looks like the honeymoon period for NS/FIP has not been impressive and the future of FrameMaker appears bleak - not so much for white hardware users (especially those with Pentium systems) but primarily black hardware users who are unlikely to be able to run a PC version under SoftPC fast enough to be easy to use. My guess is that white HW + SoftPC + Frame for Windows might be a workable alternative. Just in case it isn't too late to influence Frame, you can send your cards and letters of support to: comments@frame.com and reference TS Case 96778. [........] > We are still working out the details of a formal announcement > which I expect will be made within the next week, or two. The > details will include information for our customers who have > purchased a software maintenance agreement for NeXT Black box. > > As I have said, we are constantly monitoring > business/customer demand for ports to additional platforms as > well as upgrades for platforms already supported. At the > moment, there is no viable business model for > porting/upgrading FrameMaker 4 to NeXT (black box or Intel). > As a public company, we have a responsibility to our > shareholders to be active in profitable markets; at this time, > the NeXT platforms mentioned above do not appear to have this > characteristic. > > > Would Frame consider selling a third party > > developer the rights to develop and market a > > NEXTSTEP version of Frame? If not, why not? > > Actually, this is something that has been "on the table" of > our upper management team. It is not beyond reason but there > are a lot of conditions that would have to be met. I'd have > to say that figuring out who is going to support such a > product is a MAJOR issue. > > I have copied quite a few key players who are still at work on > what exactly our position is with respect to NeXTSTEP. > > Namely: Jeff Young, Vice President of Engineering > Peter Cassady, Interim Consultant (Marketing) > Craig Yappert, Product Marketing Manager > Carol Kaplan, Director Investor Relations > (Corporate Communications) > > jey@midas.corp.frame.com > pcassady@midas.corp.frame.com > cby@midas.corp.frame.com > cbk@midas.corp.frame.com > > > Your message is well timed as I expect the future of "NeXTSTEP" at > Frame is likely to be a topic of an upcoming executive staff meeting. > > [..........] > > If you have more input, I would encourage you to write back > and copy those on the Cc line above. >
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.next.misc,comp.mail.sendmail From: ashley@chaz.demon.co.uk Subject: NS & Pop mail server? Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID: <CDp8CI.19r@demon.co.uk> Sender: news@demon.co.uk (Usenet Administration) Organization: Demon Internet Limited. Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1993 18:09:03 GMT Hi - Has anybody had any experience setting up NeXTSTEP for Intel as a POP mail server? I'd like to set up our NeXT to act as a POP post office for DOS machines on the same ethernet. Any hints? Thanks in advance... Charles.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: ron@nosc.mil (Ron Broersma) Subject: Re: NS & Pop mail server? Message-ID: <1993Sep21.132244.26570@nosc.mil> Keywords: pop Sender: usenet@nosc.mil (Network News) Organization: NCCOSC RDT&E Division, San Diego, CA References: <CDp8CI.19r@demon.co.uk> Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1993 13:22:44 GMT In article <CDp8CI.19r@demon.co.uk> ashley@chaz.demon.co.uk writes: > > Hi - > > Has anybody had any experience setting up NeXTSTEP for Intel as a POP mail > server? I'd like to set up our NeXT to act as a POP post office for DOS > machines on the same ethernet. Any hints? > > Thanks in advance... > > Charles. We set up both pop2 and pop3 servers on NeXT supporting PCs and Macs. It works well. --Ron
From: jamastro@indyvax.iupui.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: FrameMaker 4 due out 10/8/93 Message-ID: <1993Sep21.085031.2042@ivax> Date: 21 Sep 93 08:50:31 -0500 Good news for you FrameMaker types out there. At a computer symposium today I found out that FrameMaker will be releasing version 4 of their product for the NeXTSTEP platform. The person I talked two was knowledgable and showed me in writing that their product would be available for NeXT, SUN, HP and a few other platforms by the end of September 1993. Expected date on the street: 8 October 1993. This was in black and white folks. No hearsay.
From: dave@truth.asg.arlut.utexas.edu (Dave Slotnick) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Can Edit be made to use spaces for tabs? Date: 21 Sep 1993 14:36:39 GMT Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas Message-ID: <27n3hn$akq@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> Hello! I'm looking for a way to make Edit use spaces for tabs, in exactly the way emacs does when indent-tabs-mode is set to nil. I use both Edit and emacs, but when I load up a document created with Edit into Emacs the tabs screw up my indentation scheme. -- *** David Slotnick *** Applied Research Laboratories *** dave@truth.asg.arlut.utexas.edu NeXTmail desired and appreciated
From: droege@infko.uni-koblenz.de (Detlev Droege) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mail.app in 3.2 to support MIME ??? Date: 21 Sep 1993 14:34:31 GMT Organization: CC/CS Uni-Koblenz Distribution: world Message-ID: <27n3dnINN44b@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de> References: <1993Sep14.214243.27887@nosc.mil> In article <1993Sep14.214243.27887@nosc.mil> huck@nise-ch.nosc.mil (Craig Huckabee) writes: > Simple question: > > Will the Mail.app in NeXTStep 3.2 support MIME or is there a mail > application for NeXTStep that will? At the German Unix fair (GUUG) last week Steve Jobs was asked about this. He answered, that Mail.app will support MIME in the first half of the next year. This obviously rules out MIME support in 3.2. BTW: 3.2 was said to be presented at the "Systems '93" fair in Munich in November (heard from a NeXT Germany representative). Detlev -- Detlev Droege, Universitaet Koblenz, | droege@infko.uni-koblenz.de Institut fuer Informatik | (NeXTmail ok) Rheinau 1, | Voice: +49 261 9119-421 D-56075 Koblenz, Germany | Fax: +49 261 9119-499
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) Subject: DATE (was Re: Thank you to all those who replied,...) Message-ID: <1993Sep21.155823.26838@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: Stanford University References: <CDowE5.419@number_one.apana.org.au> Date: Tue, 21 Sep 93 15:58:23 GMT nicolev@number_one.apana.org.au writes > I can not help thinking that NeXT should re-bundle Date together > with its sources with NS3.2. It is an easy to use, no-frills > productivity app. > > Maybe all those who feel strongly enough about seeing Date > re-bundled with NS3.2 could send an email to NeXT indicating this > :-) ,...... just a suggestion. I agree. Date adds a usefule little bit of functionality and yet is so simple that it should not pose any threat to the much more full-featured and polished apps like Pencil-Me-In; indeed, every time I use Date I end up thinking how much I'd like to have Pencil-Me-In. If only its price wasn't so high... (even at the recently announced bundle price with SBook, its far outside my reach for that class of application). -- - Stefano Pagiola Food Research Institute, Stanford University spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged) spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) Subject: Re: Mathematica installation help Message-ID: <1993Sep21.155234.26547@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: Stanford University References: <27ljff$kru@nigel.msen.com> Date: Tue, 21 Sep 93 15:52:34 GMT Alex Popadich writes > My real problem is that I've lost my installation instructions > for Mathematica 2.0 for my NeXT computer. Frankly, I can't remember > if the installation instructions came as an online file or if it > was in the folder of documentation supplied with my package. I don't remember an installation guide, either printed or online. Just double-click on the package to launch Installer and let it install Mma for you. The run the MathInstall app and follow the instructions in there. Nothing very difficult about it. -- - Stefano Pagiola Food Research Institute, Stanford University spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged) spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago, ADN Computer Center Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1993 09:57:44 CDT From: <U53076@uicvm.uic.edu> Message-ID: <93264.095745U53076@uicvm.uic.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NewsGrazer Problems Hi people, I am trying to use NewsGrazer to read news from an IBM mainframe news server. Until recently it did not let NewsGrazer identify articles by message-id. Now it let's me get at some articles, but for most articles it says 'MMEdit cannot find end of message header' and in the console it says 'IConvertMIME:No Msg ID in the header'. What's going on and what can be done?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jmastrol@etsun.tech.iupui.edu (John Alan Mastrolia) Subject: Re: FAX modem and software Message-ID: <CDpsHG.Ct2@iupui.edu> Sender: usenet@iupui.edu (UseNet Poster) Organization: Purdue University - School of Engr. and Tech. References: <1993Sep15.022645.23628@ximage.com> <mrossCDHGp1.9tD@netcom.com> Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1993 17:27:15 GMT In article <mrossCDHGp1.9tD@netcom.com> mross@netcom.com (Antigone Press) writes: >Jagdish Narasimhan (jag@seguente) wrote: > >: I am just setting up a NeXTstation at home....I would like to >: get recommendationon a modem and software for being able to send and >: receive faxes from this machine... > >Black & White Software <nxfax@bandw.com> will sell you an excellent ZyXEL >modem and their even more excellent NXFax software. They are having a $100 >rebate sale right now. They are friendly people too! > >A very satisfied customer. > > >-- >-------------- >Michael Ross mross@antigone.com (preferred) >Antigone Press mross@netcom.com >San Francisco CA FAX +1.415.431.3650 Make that a "Ditto." I strongly suggest Black and White Software's NXFax with ZyXEL modems. It works great! From another satisfied customer. --- John A. Mastrolia (Politically, Fashionably, and Aerodinamically Incorrect) jmastrol@etsun.tech.iupui.edu -- --- John A. Mastrolia (Politically, Fashionably, and Aerodinamically Incorrect) jmastrol@etsun.tech.iupui.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jmastrol@etsun.tech.iupui.edu (John Alan Mastrolia) Subject: Re: Laser printed checks Message-ID: <CDpsn4.Cv1@iupui.edu> Sender: usenet@iupui.edu (UseNet Poster) Organization: Purdue University - School of Engr. and Tech. References: <1993Sep17.163810.15384@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1993 17:30:39 GMT In article <1993Sep17.163810.15384@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> chuston@nugget.rmNUG.ORG (Chris Huston) writes: >Hello, > I'm looking for a check printing package for ei- >ther NeXTSTEP or HP/UX that works with laser printers. I want to >take an ascii table and have it printed on checks. A hitch may be >that the check stub may have multiple pages for every check. > >Any suggestions? > >Thanks, > Chris Huston > I.S. Manager > D.C. Dudley & Associates > Try FiscalDimensions by AXSYS. It's a full financial package that supports laser printed checks. It's released on Black hardware, but I'm not sure if they've ported to white just yet. They are based out of Pennsylvania.... Great package. It does everything you would expect a financial package to do and then some. -- --- John A. Mastrolia (Politically, Fashionably, and Aerodinamically Incorrect) jmastrol@etsun.tech.iupui.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: stiv@netcom.com (Stiv D. Ostenberg) Subject: Re: Soft PC .hdfd files, dumb question Message-ID: <stivCDpwCr.KL6@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) References: <1993Sep8.013704.1195@stone.com> <1993Sep9.130824.22602@cubx.com> Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1993 18:50:50 GMT ed@cubx.com (Erik Dasque) writes: >Has anyone succedeed using the .hdfd files in SoftPC.app (The one that >Insignia has put onto the NS/68k User CD-ROM) SoftPC doesn't seem to like >those .hdfd (it looks for .hdf files, like those in my old beta, which >work with the new SoftPC) >Are those Insignia PC-Hard Disk files, how do you use them ? >P.S. (Changing therir name to *.hdf doesn't work...) Ed; The .hdfd is the data file containing the information SoftPC uses to create a hard disk file. They cannot be used as hard drives. Note: If you have an old version (2.x) of SoftPC and are having troubles with SoftPC 3.x, try resetting your system preferences with the command: dread -o SoftPC | dremove This will cause the new version of SoftPC to start properly. Stiv Ostenberg -- Stiv Ostenberg stiv@netcom.netcom.com| Sable, Saltairwise, a Claighmore ---------------------------------------+ inverted Argent, a Rowan Branch Or Tech Support, Insignia Solutions | --<------ ------>-- ---------------------------------------+ Conner MacCiaran
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jhfreeman@iworks.ecn.uiowa.edu (James H Freeman) Subject: TeXview problem in printing eps files Summary: TeXview displays graphic but does not print it. Sender: news@news.uiowa.edu (News) Message-ID: <1993Sep21.185801.22752@news.uiowa.edu> Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1993 18:58:01 GMT References: <1993Sep15.022645.23628@ximage.com> <mrossCDHGp1.9tD@netcom.com> <CDpsHG.Ct2@iupui.edu> Organization: International HP Workstation users' group (InterWorks) Keywords: TeXview Followup-To: freeman@cornell-Iowa.edu I have a strange problem with TeXview. If I include an eps file into a tex document and display the dvi file in TeXview, the included eps file displays properly on the screen. If I try to print the dvi file out of TeXview, I get an error message in the TeXview console to the effect that the eps file could not be found. If I run TeXview as root, the div file will print properly with the included eps file. I have also tried running dvips by hand out of a regular user account and everything prints properly. It appears to me that the problem is either a protection problem or a problem with an environment variable, TEXINPUTS being the most likely candidate. I put TEXINPUTS manually into .cshrc and did a ps e to verify that the variable was properly defined for a running TeXview process. The included eps file still did not print. I admit I am at a loss. I do not know why the graphic will display on the screen, but can't be found when you try to print it. Does anyone know if this is a known problem, or have I hosed my system in some way. Thank you for any help you can provide. Since our news feed is almost a week behind, could replys be sent to freeman@Cornell-Iowa.edu. Thank you very much. James Freeman Department of Mathematics Cornell College Mount Vernon, Iowa 52314 freeman@Cornell-Iowa.edu
From: giddings@whitewater.chem.wisc.edu (Michael Giddings) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Watch for NS/I viruses! Date: 21 Sep 1993 19:35:31 GMT Organization: Division of Information Technology Distribution: world Message-ID: <27nl23$k17@news.doit.wisc.edu> Last week I had my Toshiba 4400C portable at a service center for some work. A few days later they called me and told me it had a virus that had infected their disks. I did not beleive them as it is soleley configured as a NeXTSTEP machine, with no DOS partition. However, the symptoms they described as occuring with this virus have been happening on the machine, so today I scanned the hard drive using the McAffee associates virus scan utility (with the /maint option). It found the "Joshi" virus within the partition table. This virus has infected other disks (this is the one that the service people told me infected their disks from my machine). I do not know yet whether it was responsible for the strange floppy/mouse problems I've been having, but it is supposed to cause those types of problems in DOS/Windows. It seems I was able to remove the virus with the "clean" program also by Mcaffee. I hope that this is the only way DOS viruses can affect NeXTSTEP (through the partition table). However, people should be on the lookout. Another "bonus" of the Intel computer world revealed . . . -- Michael Giddings | DNA sequencing technologies giddings@whitewater.chem.wisc.edu | Artificial Intelligence giddings@cs.wisc.edu | Sciences NeXT User Group founder |---------\-----------/|\------------/---------|
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jblue@ocotillo.mitre.org (Jason D. Blue) Subject: (BSD) date - anyone converted to NeXT? Message-ID: <1993Sep21.194244.23037@linus.mitre.org> Sender: news@linus.mitre.org (News Service) Organization: The MITRE Corporation Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1993 19:42:44 GMT Has anyone succesfuly converted/compiled the BSD version of the UNIX 'date' command? I would like to get the capability to specify the format of the output, which the 'date' command supplied with the NeXT does not provide. Thanks, Jason -- Jason D. Blue NeXT Network and Systems Administrator The MITRE Corporation, McLean, VA jblue@mitre.org (NeXT Mail Encouraged!) TIP#081
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: phyd@interaccess.com (Brian Leake) Subject: Re: No MIME in 3.2 (was Re: Mail.app in 3.2 to support MIME ???) References: <1993Sep14.214243.27887@nosc.mil> <1993Sep16.183001.12144@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> <CEDMAN.93Sep20191301@capitalist.princeton.edu> Sender: news@interaccess.com (Usenet News) Organization: InterAccess, Chicago's best Internet service provider. Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1993 14:31:52 GMT Message-ID: <1993Sep21.143152.1395@interaccess.com> In article <CEDMAN.93Sep20191301@capitalist.princeton.edu>, Carl Edman <cedman@princeton.edu> wrote: > > It wasn't mentioned in the 'Features' propaganda piece for 3.2 > user, and I think it's safe to say NeXT would have mentioned such > an important capability. > > I would pay $$ for a mailer which would do (a) MIME (b) properly > 'internet-formatted' message quotes (i.e.) '>' and (c) some sort of > rule-based sorting of incoming mail into mailboxes (for mailing > lists, etc.) > > With a nice NeXTstep interface, of course. If anybody has any ideas about stuff to add to NEXTSTEP then you should mail - product_feedback@next.com and tell them all about it. I'm sure this is one of the best ways to let NeXT know directly what you want. Brian Leake. -- _____________________________________________________________________ Image Art "No problems... Only Solutions" Brian Leake phyd@interaccess.com _____________________________________________________________________
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu Subject: Can only log in as Root Message-ID: <1993Sep21.182017.1@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu> Sender: news@dmi.stevens-tech.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Stevens Institute Of Technology Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1993 23:20:17 GMT I just got NSi installed and was having no problems for the last few days. But recently, I locked up and had to reset my machine - on the reboot, NS cleaned up the disk and then rebooted. At the login window, I entered the proper username and password I had set up for myself - and I wasn't able to log in. I tried several other test accounts I had made, and they couldn't log in either. Only Root is able to log in. (I even logged in as Root, created a new account, and was still unable to log in). I did notice one error when trying to drop something into the recycler. It said '/ not writeable' (or something like that). Help!?!?! Scott Davenport sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu
From: The Dean Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: language labs to learn French Date: 22 Sep 1993 00:06:22 GMT Organization: The University of British Columbia Distribution: world Message-ID: <27o4tu$s7f@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca> Hi All Does anyone know if there are language labs available the NeXT say to learn French? ___________________________________________________ B.Olav Anderson Autodidact NeXTSTEP CyberSurfer e-mail olav@emerson.physics.ubc.ca "I know of no more encouraging fact than the unquestionable ability of man to elevate his life by a conscious endeavor." H.D.Thoreau
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mgb@moksha.uucp (Michael Branton) Subject: Re: No MIME in 3.2 (was Re: Mail.app in 3.2 to support MIME ???) Message-ID: <CDpG3t.5Cr@moksha.uucp> Sender: mgb@moksha.uucp (Michael Branton) Organization: Totally Disorganized References: <CEDMAN.93Sep20191301@capitalist.princeton.edu> Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1993 12:59:53 GMT In article <CEDMAN.93Sep20191301@capitalist.princeton.edu> cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes: > In article <1993Sep16.183001.12144@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> rob@polestar.facl.mcgill.ca (Robert Macfarlane) writes: > In article <1993Sep14.214243.27887@nosc.mil> huck@nise-ch.nosc.mil (Craig > Huckabee) writes: > > Simple question: > > > > Will the Mail.app in NeXTStep 3.2 support MIME or is there a mail > > application for NeXTStep that will? > > > > --Craig > > No. And it's a real shame. > > It wasn't mentioned in the 'Features' propaganda piece for 3.2 > user, and I think it's safe to say NeXT would have mentioned such > an important capability. > > I would pay $$ for a mailer which would do (a) MIME (b) properly > 'internet-formatted' message quotes (i.e.) '>' and (c) some sort of > rule-based sorting of incoming mail into mailboxes (for mailing > lists, etc.) > > With a nice NeXTstep interface, of course. > > Well, you can have at least (b) and (c) today with Mail.app. > > (b) Any number of PD programs will provide services which do mail > formatting for you at the drop of a command key. Of all of them > probably the most powerful and versatile is TickleServices.app. > > (c) Either procmail or deliver will deliver this in conjunction with > the Mail.app utilities. > > (a) This could also be added to Mail.app fairly easily. All you need > to do is write a NeXTmail to MIME filter and stick it in the > Mail.app Mailer field and a MIME to NeXTmail filter and instruct > procmail to apply it to incoming MIME mail. > > Carl Edman > I've done the first part of (a). I used David Collier-Brown's n2m as the filter (available from nexus.yorku.ca) I haven't been able to extensively test it yet, but I have sent NeXT mail that I then read using Mark Crispin's MIME-compliant MailManager. Anyone know of a filter for MIME->NeXTMAIL ? --- -Michael mgb@thoth.stetson.edu mgb@moksha.UUCP NeXT mail welcome ! -- -Michael
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: dean@world.std.com (Dean S Banfield) Subject: Re: Boot to DOS from a second hard disk? In-Reply-To: qiu@tree.egr.uh.edu's message of 19 Sep 1993 18:56:50 GMT Message-ID: <DEAN.93Sep21234457@world.std.com> Sender: dean@world.std.com (Dean S Banfield) Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA References: <27ia1i$857@menudo.uh.edu> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1993 04:44:57 GMT In article <27ia1i$857@menudo.uh.edu> qiu@tree.egr.uh.edu (Feng Qiu) writes: :: My system is a 486/DX2 66MHz with a 525 M hard disk loaded with :: NeXTStep3.1. I have a second hard disk bootable for DOS and Windows but :: without NeXTStep partition. My question is how can you boot to the second :: hard disk to DOS? Now in order to run DOS(I have no SoftPC) I have to :: disconnect the hard disk for NeXTStep and set it at master mode then :: reboot. :: Two choices, neither too pleasant: 1) Partition your 525 Next drive to add a small DOS partition. Install DOS on it, and have your AUTOEXEC transfer immediately to theother drive. With the DOS partition on the NS disk, you will be given the DOS option at boot time. You will have to scratch your NS partition ot do this. The DOS partition can be *quite* small, but if you make it too small, you must install DOS very manually on the 'D:' drive. The DOS install wants to be on the 'C:' drive. I run with a 5 MB DOS partition on my NS primary drive and it works fine when booted to DOS. 2) Create a diskette with your AUTOEXEC and CONFIG files on it. Place it in the primary drive when you wish to boot to DOS. Have your AUTOEXEC trans- fer control immediately to your D: drive. This is a bear, since any time the system needs to reload command.com, it will do it from the A: (diskette) drive, which is quite slow. Hope this is some help. -Dean -- Dean S. Banfield Voice: (203) 656-1500 Real Decisions Corporation FAX : (203) 656-1659 22 Thorndal Circle email: dean@world.std.com Darien, CT 06820
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Is anyone using SSS's CASE Tools? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software Date: 21 Sep 1993 23:53:18 -0400 Organization: Digital Fix Development Distribution: world Message-ID: <27oi7e$qvk@digifix.digifix.com> I'm looking for some information on the CASE tools that Software Services and Solutions is offering. They seem to have two products. I'd really like to hear from someone who is using either of them. Both of their products are for revision control. [followups set to comp.sys.next.software] -- - Scott Anguish - sanguish@digifix.com (NextMail) next-announce@digifix.com (comp.sys.next.announce submissions)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mshaler@tdocad.sps.mot.com (Michael Shaler) Subject: Re: NewsGrazer Problems References: <93264.095745U53076@uicvm.uic.edu> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1993 02:45:55 GMT Organization: Nippon Motorola Ltd., Tokyo, Japan Sender: news@tkymail.sps.mot.com Message-ID: <1993Sep22.024555.6929@tkymail.sps.mot.com> <U53076@uicvm.uic.edu> writes Hi people, I am trying to use NewsGrazer to read news from an IBM mainframe news server. Until recently it did not let NewsGrazer identify articles by message-id. Now it let's me get at some articles, but for most articles it says 'MMEdit cannot find end of message header' and in the console it says 'IConvertMIME:No Msg ID in the header'. What's going on and what can be done? I thought that MMEdit is a MIME-compatible editor used in tandem with NewsBase. Are you sure that you are using NewsGrazer? If so, check to see what MMEdit is doing in there with your system... --michael
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: aris@mundoe.maths.mu.OZ.AU (Aris Theocharides ) Subject: Mathematica and NeXTstep cohesion Message-ID: <9326518.15746@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> Sender: news@cs.mu.OZ.AU Organization: Department of Mathematics, University of Melbourne Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1993 08:25:29 GMT I am interested in any source or demo apps that use Mathematica as a work engine with a NeXTstep front end. I used to have some plotting programs a while back but lost the origin. Anyone have any? Or know where to look? Send by NeXTmail is okay and preferred, but anything will be appreciated. Aris Theocharides OZNeXT User Group Vice-President <aris@maths.mu.OZ.AU> -- name: aris theocharides. address: room g63, maths dept, melb uni, parkville, vic, australia, 3052. phone [+613] uni: 344.40.21, home: 489.90.14, fax: 344.45.99 e.mail: aris@mundoe.maths.mu.OZ.AU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) Subject: Re: (BSD) date - anyone converted to NeXT? Message-ID: <1993Sep22.092654.4815@csus.edu> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.programmer Sender: news@csus.edu Organization: San Francisco State University References: <1993Sep21.194244.23037@linus.mitre.org> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1993 09:26:54 GMT In article <1993Sep21.194244.23037@linus.mitre.org> jblue@mitre.org (Jason D. Blue) writes: >Has anyone succesfuly converted/compiled the BSD version of the UNIX 'date' >command? I would like to get the capability to specify the format of the >output, which the 'date' command supplied with the NeXT does not provide. Looks pretty straightforward. Here's some quick-and-dirty more or less mindless patches to get the NET2 date command to compile under NeXTSTEP 2.1. 3.x folks, well, I'll let you figure out where NeXT hid the various headers. :-) BTW, I don't claim that this works--just that it compiles. I really didn't spend more than a couple of minutes on it. Followups to c.s.n.p -=EPS=- ------- *** Makefile.orig Tue Dec 4 22:07:15 1990 --- Makefile *************** *** 1,8 **** ! # @(#)Makefile 5.3 (Berkeley) 12/4/90 ! PROG= date ! SRCS= date.c netdate.c ! DPADD= ${LIBUTIL} ! LDADD= -lutil ! .include <bsd.prog.mk> --- 1,15 ---- ! CFLAGS=-O ! LDFLAGS=-s ! OBJS=date.o netdate.o logwtmp.o ! LOADLIBES= ! all: date ! date: $(OBJS) ! $(CC) -o $@ $(LDFLAGS) $(OBJS) $(LOADLIBES) ! ! logwtmp.o: logwtmp.c ! $(CC) -c $(CFLAGS) -D_PATH_WTMP=\"/usr/adm/wtmp\" $*.c ! ! clean: ! rm -rf date $(OBJS) *** date.c.orig Thu Apr 4 18:19:45 1991 --- date.c *************** *** 45,51 **** --- 45,55 ---- #include <sys/time.h> #include <sys/file.h> #include <syslog.h> + #ifdef NeXT + #include <libc.h> + #else #include <unistd.h> + #endif #include <stdio.h> #include <stdlib.h> #include <string.h> *************** *** 53,58 **** --- 57,65 ---- time_t tval; int retval, nflag; + #ifdef NeXT + int gflag; + #endif main(argc, argv) int argc; *************** *** 79,85 **** --- 86,96 ---- tval = atol(optarg); break; case 'u': /* do everything in GMT */ + #ifdef NeXT + gflag = 1; + #else (void)setenv("TZ", "GMT0", 1); + #endif break; case 't': /* minutes west of GMT */ /* error check; don't allow "PST" */ *************** *** 109,115 **** --- 120,130 ---- exit(1); } + #ifdef NeXT + format = "%a %b %d %H:%M:%S %Z %Y\n"; + #else format = "%a %b %e %H:%M:%S %Z %Y\n"; + #endif /* allow the operands in any order */ if (*argv && **argv == '+') { *************** *** 125,131 **** --- 140,151 ---- if (*argv && **argv == '+') format = *argv + 1; + #ifdef NeXT + (void)strftime(buf, sizeof(buf), format, + gflag ? gmtime(&tval) : localtime(&tval)); + #else (void)strftime(buf, sizeof(buf), format, localtime(&tval)); + #endif (void)printf("%s", buf); exit(retval); } *************** *** 143,149 **** --- 163,173 ---- if (!isdigit(*t) && (*t != '.' || dot++)) badformat(); + #ifdef NeXT + lt = gflag ? gmtime(&tval) : localtime(&tval); + #else lt = localtime(&tval); + #endif if (t = index(p, '.')) { /* .ss */ *t++ = '\0'; *** netdate.c.orig Thu Apr 4 18:19:45 1991 --- netdate.c *************** *** 43,49 **** --- 43,51 ---- #include <netdb.h> #define TSPTYPES #include <protocols/timed.h> + #ifndef NeXT #include <unistd.h> + #endif #include <stdio.h> #include <string.h>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) Subject: Re: (BSD) date - anyone converted to NeXT? Message-ID: <1993Sep22.094352.5696@csus.edu> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.programmer Sender: news@csus.edu Organization: San Francisco State University References: <1993Sep21.194244.23037@linus.mitre.org> <1993Sep22.092654.4815@csus.edu> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1993 09:43:52 GMT In article <1993Sep22.092654.4815@csus.edu> I wrote: >! $(CC) -c $(CFLAGS) -D_PATH_WTMP=\"/usr/adm/wtmp\" $*.c hmm... better make that ! $(CC) -c $(CFLAGS) -DLIBC_SCCS -D_PATH_WTMP=\"/usr/adm/wtmp\" $*.c for the sake of the "what" command. Sorry. (It's late and I'm tired...) -=EPS=-
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: westner@picasso.pst.informatik.uni-muenchen.de (Dominik Westner) Subject: HELP: installing C-NEWS Sender: news@informatik.uni-muenchen.de (News System) Message-ID: <CDrEHq.IMz@informatik.uni-muenchen.de> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1993 14:20:14 GMT Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Universitaet Muenchen Keywords: USENET NEWS Cnews Hi, I've got problems to install Cnews Release 17.Feb under 3.0. I already have the CNews installing instructions but they seem to be for an older release. Has anybody succeeded in compiling it and might mail me the config for it. Thanks --- Dominik Westner "Everything is possible in an infinite universe" ______________________________________________________Willi, the painter Dominik Westner Muenchen-Germany HOME: dominik@blackmagic.guug.de [NeXTMail welcome] UNI: westner@informatik.uni-muenchen.de [NeXTMail welcome]
From: yygold@yadin.phyast.pitt.edu (Yadin Y. Goldschmidt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Boot to DOS from a second hard disk? Message-ID: <2254@blue.cis.pitt.edu> Date: 22 Sep 93 13:45:37 GMT References: <27ia1i$857@menudo.uh.edu> <DEAN.93Sep21234457@world.std.com> Sender: news+@pitt.edu Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Dean S Banfield (dean@world.std.com) wrote: : In article <27ia1i$857@menudo.uh.edu> qiu@tree.egr.uh.edu (Feng Qiu) writes: : :: My system is a 486/DX2 66MHz with a 525 M hard disk loaded with : :: NeXTStep3.1. I have a second hard disk bootable for DOS and Windows but : :: without NeXTStep partition. My question is how can you boot to the second : :: hard disk to DOS? Now in order to run DOS(I have no SoftPC) I have to : :: disconnect the hard disk for NeXTStep and set it at master mode then : :: reboot. : :: : Two choices, neither too pleasant: 1) Partition your 525 Next drive to add : a small DOS partition. Install DOS on it, and have your AUTOEXEC transfer : immediately to theother drive. With the DOS partition on the NS disk, you : will be given the DOS option at boot time. You will have to scratch your : NS partition ot do this. The DOS partition can be *quite* small, but if : you make it too small, you must install DOS very manually on the 'D:' drive. : The DOS install wants to be on the 'C:' drive. I run with a 5 MB DOS : partition on my NS primary drive and it works fine when booted to DOS. 2) : Create a diskette with your AUTOEXEC and CONFIG files on it. Place it : in the primary drive when you wish to boot to DOS. Have your AUTOEXEC trans- : fer control immediately to your D: drive. This is a bear, since any time : the system needs to reload command.com, it will do it from the A: (diskette) : drive, which is quite slow. Hope this is some help. : -Dean : -- : Dean S. Banfield Voice: (203) 656-1500 : Real Decisions Corporation FAX : (203) 656-1659 : 22 Thorndal Circle email: dean@world.std.com : Darien, CT 06820 This is not quite right since if I remember correctly from my DOS days you can issue the command 'set shell=d:\command.com' or something like that in the autoexec.bat file and then the system will look for command.com on drive d: and not on drive a:. Yadin.
From: yygold@yadin.phyast.pitt.edu (Yadin Y. Goldschmidt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Boot to DOS from a second hard disk? Message-ID: <2255@blue.cis.pitt.edu> Date: 22 Sep 93 13:51:15 GMT References: <27ia1i$857@menudo.uh.edu> <DEAN.93Sep21234457@world.std.com> <2254@blue.cis.pitt.edu> Sender: news+@pitt.edu Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc Actually the right command is set comspec=d:\command.com
From: Langche Zeng <lz22+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: NS/I, DOS partition, TeX. Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1993 11:49:25 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Distribution: inet Message-ID: <Ygc7E5y00WB2A7ZF8k@andrew.cmu.edu> Hi there! First of all, I'd like to thank everyone who responded to my last message asking for help concerning the "CD ROM not ready" error in installing NS/I. Among the many suggestions was one that asked me to check whether the cd itself was milky. It was! It's that simple... Who would think that a brand new cd just taken out of the package is dirty! But apperently this is not a rarely problem for cd's from NeXT. So here is a lesson: if anyone is ever going to install NS/I, the very first thing to do is to check whether the cd is clean. Otherwise, you might waste a whole day or more to check for nonexisting problems elsewhere (like us). Now I got two more (unrelated) questions to ask: 1. NS/I and DOS partition. We were installing NS/I on a Gateway 4DX2/66v. The machine was shipped with DOS/WINDOWS on it. It was running DOS/WINDOWS fine untill we accidentally made it into an unusable state (system disk missing). We installed NS/I at that point, made a 300 meg partition for DOS and 900 for NS/I (chooing option 2 in the menu). Now the strange thing happens: we were told by everyone that installing NS/I with a DOS partition using option 2 would delete everything on the HD and we'd need to reinstall DOS/WINDOWS later. But surprisingly,when NS/I was up the DOS partition showed up in the workspace, everything was there, and we were able to reboot the machine into DOS right away! This was a happy surprise. But the unhappy thing was that DOS seemed not to recognized the fact that it was a partition now and had only 300 meg at its dispense: it kept saying something like more than 900 meg free... This really confused us. Does this mean DOS will just keep boasting about its vast territory even if it doesn't really own it, or does this mean that DOS does have access to the whole hard disk and could write randomly anywhere and therefore cause much problems to NS/I later? Please enlighten me! 2. The second question is about software for NS/I: Ns/I 3.1 doesn't come with TeX/LaTeX, which is really dissapointing. Do you know where I could get it? I use Latex a lot and cann't live happily without it... Many thanks in advance. Langche PS. I'd appreciate if you could reply by e-mail or send me a copy if you post.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore) Subject: Re: HELP: installing C-NEWS Message-ID: <CDrn07.Ir@genoa.com> Sender: alex@genoa.com (Alex Blakemore) Organization: Genoa Software Systems References: <CDrEHq.IMz@informatik.uni-muenchen.de> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1993 17:24:07 GMT In article <CDrEHq.IMz@informatik.uni-muenchen.de> westner@picasso.pst.informatik.uni-muenchen.de (Dominik Westner) writes: > I've got problems to install Cnews Release 17.Feb under 3.0. > I already have the CNews installing instructions but they seem to be for > an older release. > Has anybody succeeded in compiling it and might mail me the config for it. speaking as someone who just suffered through this. the easiest solution is to get the precompiled version from cs.orst.edu which is in NeXT installer format. you then dont have to compile/install - only configure. it comes with pretty good instructions. one thing it doesnt tell you is that you must create the directory /usr/spool/news/out.master and have it be owned by news good luck -- Alex Blakemore alex@cs.umd.edu NeXT mail accepted
From: jamastro@indyvax.iupui.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: FrameMaker 4 due out 10/8/93 Message-ID: <1993Sep22.134312.2050@ivax> Date: 22 Sep 93 13:43:12 -0500 References: <1993Sep21.085031.2042@ivax> In article <1993Sep21.085031.2042@ivax>, jamastro@indyvax.iupui.edu writes: > Good news for you FrameMaker types out there. At a computer symposium > today I found out that FrameMaker will be releasing version 4 of their > product for the NeXTSTEP platform. > > The person I talked two was knowledgable and showed me in writing that > their product would be available for NeXT, SUN, HP and a few other > platforms by the end of September 1993. Expected date on the street: > 8 October 1993. This was in black and white folks. No hearsay. > > A few notes have come to my attention since I posted this the other day. FrameMaker contacted me via e-mail saying they were not committed to releasing a new version for NeXTSTEP systems. Only that they would make an announcement in the next 2-3 weeks detailing their product line. Second, when I stated that "This was in black and white", my intended meaning was the release dates were in writing and were presented in a rather large promotional pack outlining their FrameMaker 4 product line (at the Computer Symposium).. Sorry if there was any confusion, but FrameMaker is not yet saying what their plans are for FrameMaker 4 on NeXTSTEP.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: coconut@crash.cts.com (Brian Dear) Subject: Re: FrameMaker 4 due out 10/8/93 Organization: Coconut Computing, Inc., La Jolla, CA Date: 22 Sep 93 11:14:41 PDT Message-ID: <1993Sep22.111441.25261@crash> References: <1993Sep21.085031.2042@ivax> jamastro@indyvax.iupui.edu wrote: : Good news for you FrameMaker types out there. At a computer symposium : today I found out that FrameMaker will be releasing version 4 of their : product for the NeXTSTEP platform. : : The person I talked two was knowledgable and showed me in writing that : their product would be available for NeXT, SUN, HP and a few other : platforms by the end of September 1993. Expected date on the street: : 8 October 1993. This was in black and white folks. No hearsay. : The minute I read this I called Frame Technology and talked to a sales guy who said the official word from Frame is that the above information is a "false rumor" and that Frame is still taking a "wait-and-see" attitude regarding any further FrameMaker product development for NS/NeXT or NS/Intel. Rats. I kinda had my hopes up there for a minute. :-( -- brian dear -- coconut computing, inc. -- brian@coconut.com --
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: uunet!lkba!lkb (Larry Blische) Subject: Receiving NeXTMail on non-NeXT machines Message-ID: <1993Sep22.223237.3118@lkba.uucp> Sender: lkb@lkba.uucp (Larry Blische) Organization: LKB Associates, Inc. Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1993 22:32:37 GMT I didn't see this in the FAQ so... I would like to find a program that would enable a Sun user to receive my NeXTMail. I only need to be able to send files and folders, not sound or images, etc. Does this exist? Thanks --- Larry Blische lkba!lkb@uunet.UU.NET LKB Associates, Inc. NeXTmail Welcome! 3118 Dunglow Road 410 285 2262 Dundalk, Maryland 21222-5304 USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: heberlei@cs.ucdavis.edu (Louis Todd Heberlein) Subject: PPP software Message-ID: <CDs4rq.4qF@ucdavis.edu> Keywords: PPP, NeXT Sender: usenet@ucdavis.edu (News Administrator) Organization: University of California, Davis Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1993 23:47:49 GMT What PPP software is available for NeXTstations running NS 3.0 and/or 3.1? I am interested in both commercial and public domain software. I just downloaded ppp-0.3.tar.gz from orst; is this software stable? (I still need to get software to uncompress gz files). I have Marble's Teleconnect software for SLIP, but my university has stopped supporting SLIP at any speed over 2400 bps, so I need to switch to PPP. Any help would be appreciated. Todd Heberlein heberlei@cs.ucdavis.edu NeXTmail OK
From: jhs3478@tamsun.tamu.edu (Jeffery H. Stephens) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXT <--> Mac file transfer software ????? Date: 23 Sep 1993 03:33:39 -0500 Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station Distribution: usa Message-ID: <27rn13$smq@tamsun.tamu.edu> I'm looking for some sotware to connect my Mac Powerbook (serial port) to my NeXTstation (serial port) for file transfers. I would prefer shareware. Thanks. jeffs@tamu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: uunet!molly!vlcek (Jim Vlcek) Subject: Re: Appsoft Draw Message-ID: <CDsFzy.DIJ@molly.uucp> Sender: vlcek@molly.uucp (James Vlcek) Organization: The Black Box of Lowertown References: <1993Sep17.193132.29439@cs.yale.edu> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1993 03:50:21 GMT In response to my question about Appsoft Draw, I learned: - The latest version is 1.02 (not 2.01, as I originally posted) - There was an abortive version 1.03 which should be avoided - My upgrade from Appsoft is free of charge (fancy that!) Thanks to all who responded. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jim Vlcek UNIX for $166! uunet!molly!vlcek Novell UnixWare from Information Foundation Beautiful downtown St. Paul (303) 572-6486 sales@if.com
From: gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Appsoft Draw Date: 23 Sep 1993 11:21:09 GMT Organization: University of Maryland, College Park Message-ID: <27s0r5$9dt@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> References: <1993Sep17.193132.29439@cs.yale.edu> <CDsFzy.DIJ@molly.uucp> The "latest version" of Draw (1.02) is quite old, flawed, and seems to be going the way of WriteNow, i.e. dying if not dead. -RKD
From: danders@carn3.alleg.edu (Dave Anderson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: language labs to learn French Date: 23 Sep 1993 12:41:26 GMT Organization: Allegheny College Distribution: world Message-ID: <27s5hm$8mu@ftp.alleg.edu> References: <27o4tu$s7f@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca> In article <27o4tu$s7f@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca> The Dean writes: > Hi All > > Does anyone know if there are language labs available the NeXT say to learn > French? > > ___________________________________________________ > B.Olav Anderson > Autodidact > NeXTSTEP CyberSurfer > e-mail olav@emerson.physics.ubc.ca > > "I know of no more encouraging fact than the unquestionable ability of man to > elevate his life by a conscious endeavor." > H.D.Thoreau Allegheny College has developed a number of NexT applications for foreign langauge training. They are available on our ftp site pellns.alleg.edu .
From: mek@guinan.psu.edu (Mark E. Kotanchek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXT <--> Mac file transfer software ????? Date: 23 Sep 1993 14:28:26 GMT Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing Distribution: usa Message-ID: <27sbqa$hiu@genesis.ait.psu.edu> References: <27rn13$smq@tamsun.tamu.edu> In article <27rn13$smq@tamsun.tamu.edu> jhs3478@tamsun.tamu.edu (Jeffery H. Stephens) writes: > I'm looking for some sotware to connect my Mac Powerbook (serial port) > to my NeXTstation (serial port) for file transfers. I would prefer shareware. > Thanks. > jeffs@tamu.edu Not shareware, but relatively cheap is MacLinkPlus/PC which has cables as well as software for data transfer and translation. In fact, to convert FrameMaker files on the NeXT into WordPerfect for the PC, I go through my Powerbook 170. Mark. -- Mark Kotanchek Guidance & Control Dept - 363 ASB Applied Research Lab/Penn State P.O. Box 30 State College, PA 16804
From: lje0106@sigma.tamu.edu (Louis J. Everett) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Appsoft Draw Date: 23 Sep 1993 14:25:18 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX Distribution: world Message-ID: <27sbke$m38@TAMUTS.TAMU.EDU> References: <27s0r5$9dt@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> In article <27s0r5$9dt@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks) writes: | The "latest version" of Draw (1.02) is quite old, | flawed, and seems to be going the way of WriteNow, | i.e. dying if not dead. | | -RKD | I tend to agree with the flawed comment. If it is dying, what do you suggest as a replacement? -- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Louis Everett lje0106@sigma.tamu.edu NeXT mail welcome
From: rogata@is-next.umd.edu (Richard Scott Ogata) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: PPP software Date: 23 Sep 1993 15:04:25 GMT Organization: University Of Maryland, College Park, MD Message-ID: <27sdtp$g3u@umd5.umd.edu> References: <CDs4rq.4qF@ucdavis.edu> Keywords: PPP, NeXT In article <CDs4rq.4qF@ucdavis.edu> heberlei@cs.ucdavis.edu writes: >What PPP software is available for NeXTstations running >NS 3.0 and/or 3.1? I am interested in both commercial and >public domain software. I just downloaded ppp-0.3.tar.gz >from orst; is this software stable? (I still need to get >software to uncompress gz files). > You need to get MorningStar PPP. It is available for Black hardware, and they have written a version for Intel as well, but last I spoke to them it was having problems due to the poor serial drivers. That was before the updated drivers came out though, so it may be ready now. The price is relatively high, but the product is very good. The public domain ppp may be usable, but I could never get it to work properly (or at all, for that matter). I did get it to panic my machine a few times before I threw it away, however. Rich Ogata rogata@arpa.mil
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: silbar@cantina.lanl.gov (Dick Silbar) Subject: need phone number for Maple Message-ID: <1993Sep23.144140.1581@newshost.lanl.gov> Sender: news@newshost.lanl.gov Organization: Los Alamos National Lab Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1993 14:41:40 GMT Also an e-mail and Fax number, if available. Thanks. -- Dick Silbar (NeXTMail OK) 505-667-5253
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: kuocy@ecn.purdue.edu (Chun-Yen Kuo) Subject: Re: language labs to learn French Message-ID: <CDtBA1.LxD@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> Sender: news@noose.ecn.purdue.edu (USENET news) Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network References: <27o4tu$s7f@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca> <27s5hm$8mu@ftp.alleg.edu> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1993 15:06:01 GMT In article <27s5hm$8mu@ftp.alleg.edu>, danders@carn3.alleg.edu (Dave Anderson) writes: |> In article <27o4tu$s7f@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca> The Dean writes: |> > Hi All |> > |> > Does anyone know if there are language labs available the NeXT say to |> learn |> > French? |> > |> > ___________________________________________________ |> > B.Olav Anderson |> > Autodidact |> > NeXTSTEP CyberSurfer |> > e-mail olav@emerson.physics.ubc.ca |> > |> > "I know of no more encouraging fact than the unquestionable ability of |> man to |> > elevate his life by a conscious endeavor." |> > H.D.Thoreau |> |> Allegheny College has developed a number of NexT applications for foreign |> langauge training. They are available on our ftp site pellns.alleg.edu . I had try it. The ftp site had been changed tp ftp.alleg.edu. Chun-Yen
From: alfred@ca-risc.co.at Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Informix on NeXT Date: 23 Sep 1993 16:32:35 GMT Organization: EUnet EDV-Dienstleistungsgesellschaft m.b.H Message-ID: <27sj33$arn@hp4at.eunet.co.at> We are about to change our database server from Sybase to Informix. We use a (real) DEC Alpha as server and, of course, NeXTs (black hardware) as front ends/development. Now, everything is on hold because the latest version of Informix is not (yet) available on NeXT and nobody at Informix seems to be able to tell us whether it will be and if yes, when. Does anyone know? Its quite important to us. Alfred H. Corrodi Risk Manager Creditanstalt-Bankverein Vienna alfred@ca-risc.co.at
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: tom@enterprise.bsd.uchicago.edu (& Karas) Subject: NewsGrazer Configuration Message-ID: <1993Sep23.180717.22742@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@uchinews.uchicago.edu (News System) Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic & Public Computing Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1993 18:07:17 GMT Hello-- Do any of you know what files/directories contain user-based configuration information for NewsGrazer? -- Tom Karas BSD Information Systems The University of Chicago "I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, de-briefed or numbered! My life is my own." -- Number 6, "The Prisoner"
From: Roland Telfeyan <roland@gomidas.mi.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: FrameMaker 4 due out 10/8/93 Date: 23 Sep 1993 18:16:36 GMT Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept. Distribution: world Message-ID: <27sp64$fk1@zip.eecs.umich.edu> References: <1993Sep22.134312.2050@ivax> Keywords: frame framemaker next nextstep To anybody who would order FrameMaker 4 for NEXTSTEP: Send mail to Frame Technology. Let them know you want it.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: phyd@interaccess.com (Brian Leake) Subject: Re: FAX modem and software References: <1993Sep15.022645.23628@ximage.com> <mrossCDHGp1.9tD@netcom.com> <1993Sep20.063351.12453@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl> <1993Sep20.163427.12806@venice.sedd.trw.com> Sender: news@interaccess.com (Usenet News) Organization: InterAccess, Chicago's best Internet service provider. Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1993 15:17:59 GMT Message-ID: <1993Sep23.151759.475@interaccess.com> In article <1993Sep20.163427.12806@venice.sedd.trw.com>, Paul Verket <verket@venice.sedd.trw.com> wrote: >Willem van Schaik (schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl) wrote: >: mross@netcom.com (Antigone Press) writes: > >: >Black & White Software <nxfax@bandw.com> will sell you an excellent ZyXEL >: >modem and their even more excellent NXFax software. They are having a $100 >: >rebate sale right now. They are friendly people too! ... > >I can personnally attest to the fact that the NXFax people are _great_ >on support as my modem will be supported in their next version. For >details on NXFax and what modems they support contact info@bandw.com > I third that. The people at Black and White are very helpful. I popped over to see them at the Expo and they handed me an update disk there and then. Great bunch of people. Go with them if I were you. Brian Leake. -- _____________________________________________________________________ Image Art "No problems... Only Solutions" Brian Leake phyd@interaccess.com _____________________________________________________________________
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: phyd@interaccess.com (Brian Leake) Subject: Re: FrameMaker 4 due out 10/8/93 References: <1993Sep21.085031.2042@ivax> Sender: news@interaccess.com (Usenet News) Organization: InterAccess, Chicago's best Internet service provider. Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1993 15:20:57 GMT Message-ID: <1993Sep23.152057.559@interaccess.com> In article <1993Sep21.085031.2042@ivax>, <jamastro@indyvax.iupui.edu> wrote: >Good news for you FrameMaker types out there. At a computer symposium >today I found out that FrameMaker will be releasing version 4 of their >product for the NeXTSTEP platform. > >The person I talked two was knowledgable and showed me in writing that >their product would be available for NeXT, SUN, HP and a few other >platforms by the end of September 1993. Expected date on the street: >8 October 1993. This was in black and white folks. No hearsay. > > This really is very strange. I personally had a letter by e-mail from Frame, and they gave some shpiel about 'responsibilities to shareholders' and NeXT not being a competetive market for them. Is this a case of the right-hand not knowing what the left-hand is doing, or did they change their minds? Brian Leake. -- _____________________________________________________________________ Image Art "No problems... Only Solutions" Brian Leake phyd@interaccess.com _____________________________________________________________________
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jblue@ocotillo.mitre.org (Jason D. Blue) Subject: Re: (BSD) date - anyone converted to NeXT? GOT IT! Message-ID: <1993Sep23.201000.29606@linus.mitre.org> Sender: news@linus.mitre.org (News Service) Organization: The MITRE Corporation References: <1993Sep21.194244.23037@linus.mitre.org> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1993 20:10:00 GMT In article <1993Sep21.194244.23037@linus.mitre.org> jblue@ocotillo.mitre.org (Jason D. Blue) writes: > > Has anyone succesfuly converted/compiled the BSD version of the UNIX 'date' > command? I would like to get the capability to specify the format of the > output, which the 'date' command supplied with the NeXT does not provide. > > Thanks, > Jason Thanks to all who responded to my note. I think Bob Brown's note summarizes it the best: > From: brown@quorum.com (Robert E. Brown) > > I believe that the the GNU version of "date" allows one to specify the format > of the output. It's available via FTP from prep.ai.mit.edu in directory > /pub/gnu. > > bob In fact, the GNU version offers the same features and more than the BSD version. I am in the process of downloading and installing it now. Thanks Again! Jason -- Jason D. Blue NeXT Network and Systems Administrator The MITRE Corporation, McLean, VA jblue@mitre.org (NeXT Mail Encouraged!) TIP#081
From: lje0106@sigma.tamu.edu (Louis J. Everett) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Is X Windows available for Next Black? Date: 23 Sep 1993 22:16:43 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX Distribution: world Message-ID: <27t78b$a@TAMUTS.TAMU.EDU> Is this even a legitimate question? -- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Louis Everett lje0106@sigma.tamu.edu NeXT mail welcome
From: lje0106@sigma.tamu.edu (Louis J. Everett) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Is X Windows available for Next Black? Date: 23 Sep 1993 22:17:02 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX Distribution: world Message-ID: <27t78u$15@TAMUTS.TAMU.EDU> Is this even a legitimate question? -- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Louis Everett lje0106@sigma.tamu.edu NeXT mail welcome
From: lje0106@sigma.tamu.edu (Louis J. Everett) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Is X Windows available for Next Black? Date: 23 Sep 1993 22:17:13 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX Distribution: world Message-ID: <27t799$18@TAMUTS.TAMU.EDU> Is this even a legitimate question? -- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Louis Everett lje0106@sigma.tamu.edu NeXT mail welcome
From: joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu (Joe Panico) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Can't install NSI 3.1 on my pc-clone Message-ID: <149172@netnews.upenn.edu> Date: 23 Sep 93 18:15:54 GMT Sender: news@netnews.upenn.edu Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: Dept. of Neuroscience, U. of Pennsylvania Hi, I am trying (so far unsuccesfully) to install NSI 3.1 on my pc-clone. All the components of my system are listed in the hardware compatability guide: ISA brand Motherboard w/ ATI BIOS Adaptec 1542b NEC Intersect SCSI CDROM drive I can reliably get to the Software Installation Window (where it gives a list of languages and what-not that can be checked off for installation), but the system invariably crashes at some point after the installation has begun (though never in the same place twice). The system either hangs or reboots. NeXTAnswers says that NSI 3.1 does not officially support the floppy drive controller integrated onto the adaptec 1542b-- could this be my problem? If I can't use the integrated floppy controller on the 1542b, what CAN i use to controll the floppies? Any help much appreciated. Thanks. Joe Panico joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu
From: joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu (Joe Panico) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Can't install NSI 3.1 on my pc-clone Message-ID: <149174@netnews.upenn.edu> Date: 23 Sep 93 18:18:46 GMT Sender: news@netnews.upenn.edu Organization: Dept. of Neuroscience, U. of Pennsylvania Hi, I am trying (so far unsuccesfully) to install NSI 3.1 on my pc-clone. All the components of my system are listed in the hardware compatability guide: ISA brand Motherboard w/ ATI BIOS Adaptec 1542b NEC Intersect SCSI CDROM drive I can reliably get to the Software Installation Window (where it gives a list of languages and what-not that can be checked off for installation), but the system invariably crashes at some point after the installation has begun (though never in the same place twice). The system either hangs or reboots. NeXTAnswers says that NSI 3.1 does not officially support the floppy drive controller integrated onto the adaptec 1542b-- could this be my problem? If I can't use the integrated floppy controller on the 1542b, what CAN i use to controll the floppies? Any help much appreciated. Thanks. Joe Panico joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: andrew@stone.com (Andrew Stone) Subject: Re: Appsoft Draw Message-ID: <1993Sep23.205030.3846@stone.com> Keywords: Create Sender: andrew@stone.com Organization: Stone Design Corp References: <27sbke$m38@TAMUTS.TAMU.EDU> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1993 20:50:30 GMT In article <27sbke$m38@TAMUTS.TAMU.EDU> lje0106@sigma.tamu.edu (Louis J. Everett) writes: > In article <27s0r5$9dt@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea > Brooks) writes: > | The "latest version" of Draw (1.02) is quite old, > | flawed, and seems to be going the way of WriteNow, > | i.e. dying if not dead. > | > | -RKD > | > I tend to agree with the flawed comment. If it is dying, what do you suggest as > a replacement? > Create 2.0 begins where Draw ends, if I don't say so, myself.* It's supports all the cool new 3.x features like object linking, it has PS level 2 features like patterns, it supports muliple page documents, etc. But best of all, it's totally supported. It ships MAB in 7 days, and I'll place demos on the net so you can judge for yourself. andrew *how can you trust the author to tell the truth? Check it out! -- ||<<->>||<<==>>||<<++>>||<<?>>||<<+>>||<<-->>||<<==>>||<<+>>|| !! Andrew Stone !! (505) 345-4800 !! !! andrew@stone.com <> Stone Design Corp !! ||<<->>||<<==>>||<<++>>||<<?>>||<<+>>||<<-->>||<<==>>||<<+>>||
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore) Subject: Looking for FormKit Message-ID: <CDtu5t.2ny@genoa.com> Sender: alex@genoa.com (Alex Blakemore) Organization: Genoa Software Systems Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1993 21:53:53 GMT The book Objects in Action gives a nice description of a OO kit developed in house at NeXT to facilitate writing forms based apps. (automated expense forms, purchasing forms etc). It was called, of course, FormKit. Was this ever released in any form (grown), even unsupported or as an example? -- Alex Blakemore alex@cs.umd.edu NeXT mail accepted
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex,comp.sys.next.software From: gbol@nos40nm.shell.com (Gregory B. Lampshire) Subject: NeXT TeXview and dvi font substitution Message-ID: <GBOL.93Sep21120806@nos40nm.shell.com> Sender: usenet@shellgate.shell.com (USENET News System) Organization: Shell Offshore, Inc Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1993 17:08:06 GMT I need to preview some dvi files under NeXT's TeXview that were texed with fonts which I do not have the pk or tfm files for. The TeXview error window tells me which fonts I need (by trying to run MakeTeXPK) so when I run dvips I just stick the proper entry into the psfonts.map and I can dvips the dvi file properly. The fonts it is requesting are derived from PS fonts so I would like to do the same with TeXview, tell it to use font X (which I have) for font Y (which I don't have) but there does not seem to be any obvious way to do this with TeXview. X and Y have the same metrics. Is it possible to change a dvi file and change the font names and especially switch from a font that has pk files to one that uses PS fonts under TeXview? Or can this be done dynamically under TeXview? gregory gbol@shell.com gbol@rglnext.geol.vt.edu
From: irving@Happy-Man.com (Irving_Wolfe) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: (BSD) date - anyone converted to NeXT? Message-ID: <1993Sep23.151045.17660@Happy-Man.com> Date: 23 Sep 93 15:10:45 GMT Article-I.D.: Happy-Ma.1993Sep23.151045.17660 References: <1993Sep21.194244.23037@linus.mitre.org> Organization: Happy Man Corp, 4410 Pt Robinson, Vashon, WA 98070 206/463-9399 In <1993Sep21.194244.23037@linus.mitre.org> jblue@ocotillo.mitre.org (Jason D. Blue) writes: >I would like to get the capability to specify the format of the >output, which the 'date' command supplied with the NeXT does not provide. I'm using the GNU date command here. It does what you want, but seems not to get the timezone stuff right when setting the system clock, so I still use /bin/date for that. If the NET2 date will do both parts right or someone can tell me how to configure the GNU date to do it, that would be nice. -- Irving_Wolfe@Happy-Man.com 206/463-9399 x101 fax 206/463-9255 Happy Man Corp. 4410 SW Pt. Robinson Rd., Vashon, WA 98070-7399 We publish SOLID VALUE for the intelligent investor. NextMail OK Info. packet free. Send POSTAL address: Solid-Value@Happy-Man.com
From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: What is the market for daydream? Date: 24 Sep 1993 06:19:38 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <27u3hq$c2g@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Originator: jbn35564@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu I don't understand who daydream is aimed at. Reading the ad in the latest NeXTworld, I see that it: * Runs System 7.1 out of the box (good) * Runs "virtually" every Mac-compatible app. ("virtually" is right from their ad) * requires black NeXT hardware (I didn't realize there was any market for making anything aimed at only black NeXT hardware owners) * Converts your black NeXT machine to a Mac. (doesn't run concurrently with NS?) Unfortunately, you cannot (according to an article in NeXTworld): * use a modem (you could on a real mac) * read 800KB diskettes (you could on a real mac - aren't quite a few Mac vendors shipping 800KB formatted diskettes?) * print to a NeXT laser printer (if the Mac unit takes over the NeXT hardware turning it into a Mac, I guess I wouldn't expect this to work, nor would I expect any interaction between NS apps and Mac apps). I don't get why folks wouldn't simply get a real Mac and system 7.1, running in color (I get the impression running this Mac gadget won't make your NeXT a color Mac), multiprocess Mac and NS apps (running the Mac right next to their NS machine would allow for absolutely no CPU contention, no chance that one Mac process would screw up any NS process) and know that a well-known company--Apple is behind their product for the length of the warranty. There might even be problems getting Mac vendors to support you if you run their Mac app on your daydream Mac. If a Mac emulator must be purchased, it might actually be cheaper to get a small Amiga + Amax (a Mac emulator much like daydream). Last time I looked, Amax was quite a bit under the advertised price for daydream, but that was months ago, so things may have changed. -- J.B. Nicholson-Owens (no NeXTmail please)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: alibaba@mindvox.phantom.com (Nick Mordanzo) Subject: Compiling PGP on NeXT Message-ID: <ZacDac1w165w@mindvox.phantom.com> Originator: alibaba@mindvox Sender: news@mindvox.phantom.com Organization: [MindVox] / Phantom Access Technologies / (+1 800-MindVox) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1993 06:38:34 GMT I tried out PGP but I'm having a problem with generating keys on it. It reads in existing keys fine, but when I try to generate one, it doesn't work and corrupts the current pubkey file, like this: (horace): pgp -kc Pretty Good Privacy 2.3a - Public-key encryption for the masses. (c) 1990-1993 Philip Zimmermann, Phil's Pretty Good Software. 1 Jul 93 Date: 2006/06/12 17:20 GMT Key ring: '/users/alibaba/.pgp/pubring.pgp' Type bits/keyID Date User ID Could not read key from file '/users/alibaba/.pgp/pubring.pgp'. Keyring check error. Maintenance pass error. For a usage summary, type: pgp -h For more detailed help, consult the PGP User's Guide. It NEVER works to generate a key, as test, or otherwise, but everything else including encrypting text seems to work fine. When I try to generate a key it corrupts the pubring.pgp file totally and I have to copy it back over from a backup. What's the deal with the next version of pgp2.3a, has anyone compiled this FAT, or did I just do something wrong? All I did was type 'make next' and there were no errors. When I copy a Sun keyring over, its no problem, it just will NOT generate a new key. Has anyone else ahd this problem or am I doing something dumb? advice? $%$%$%$%$%$%$% ($) Ali Baba ($) %$%$%$%$%$%$%$
From: madon@disuns2.epfl.ch (Dominik Madon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: The future of FrameMaker for NEXTSTEP Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy Date: 24 Sep 1993 09:05:28 GMT Organization: Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne Message-ID: <27ud8o$h6u@disuns2.epfl.ch> I've just called a local Frame seller. The salesman told me that Frame is quiet decided about NS. There will be no port on NS on the near futur. Even in few years... Is there anything equivalent to Framemaker on NS (with indexes, cross-refs, ..) or should I buy SoftPC+Windoze+Frame for Windoze ? Dominik ------------------------------------------------------------- madon@eig.unige.ch
From: ctm@ardi.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: What is the market for daydream? Message-ID: <CDuqEv.627@cobra.cs.unm.edu> Date: 24 Sep 93 09:30:33 GMT Article-I.D.: cobra.CDuqEv.627 References: <27u3hq$c2g@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Sender: news@cobra.cs.unm.edu Organization: ARDI In article <27u3hq$c2g@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) writes: >I don't understand who daydream is aimed at. Reading the ad in the >latest NeXTworld, I see that it: > >* Runs System 7.1 out of the box (good) > >* Runs "virtually" every Mac-compatible app. ("virtually" is right >from their ad) > >* requires black NeXT hardware (I didn't realize there was any market >for making anything aimed at only black NeXT hardware owners) > >* Converts your black NeXT machine to a Mac. (doesn't run concurrently >with NS?) > >Unfortunately, you cannot (according to an article in NeXTworld): > >* use a modem (you could on a real mac) > >* read 800KB diskettes (you could on a real mac - aren't quite a few >Mac vendors shipping 800KB formatted diskettes?) > >* print to a NeXT laser printer (if the Mac unit takes over the NeXT >hardware turning it into a Mac, I guess I wouldn't expect this to >work, nor would I expect any interaction between NS apps and Mac >apps). > >I don't get why folks wouldn't simply get a real Mac and system 7.1, >running in color (I get the impression running this Mac gadget won't >make your NeXT a color Mac), multiprocess Mac and NS apps (running the >Mac right next to their NS machine would allow for absolutely no CPU >contention, no chance that one Mac process would screw up any NS >process) and know that a well-known company--Apple is behind their >product for the length of the warranty. There might even be problems >getting Mac vendors to support you if you run their Mac app on your >daydream Mac. > >If a Mac emulator must be purchased, it might actually be cheaper to >get a small Amiga + Amax (a Mac emulator much like daydream). Last >time I looked, Amax was quite a bit under the advertised price for >daydream, but that was months ago, so things may have changed. >-- >J.B. Nicholson-Owens (no NeXTmail please) I don't know what the market for daydream would be either. I can say that it's highly unlikely that there will ever be an application that allows NeXTs to read 800K disks (the drives physically can't do it). Just because we haven't been advertising much since February, doesn't mean that work on Executor has stopped. Mostly we've been caught up with making it work under NeXTSTEP/Intel and DOS, but Executor/DOS should ship starting October 15 and then we'll get back to making more applications work under Executor. For the record: Executor *does* let you use a modem (on black hardware; modems used to crash your machine on white hardware--not our fault). Executor *does* let you print to your NeXT laser printer and Executor *does* play nicely with NEXTSTEP (allowing rich text cut and paste and PICT cut and paste (which can be converted to EPS with David Burrowe's ConvertPICT freeware)). Executor *doesn't* require Black hardware, but will run faster on it than on white hardware. NOTE: The reason other emulators run more software than Executor is that other emulators use Apple's ROMs or System File, while we've rewritten that ourselves. Unfortunately we haven't had sufficient revenue from the NeXT marketplace to hire enough engineers to get as far along compatibility-wise as we'd like, luckily our DOS revenues should clear that up. As for comparing Amax and daydream, I don't think Amax comes ready to use, does it? I think it requires the end user to obtain Mac ROMs, but I could be mistaken. --Cliff ctm@ardi.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: westner@picasso.pst.informatik.uni-muenchen.de (Dominik Westner) Subject: Re: What is the market for daydream? Sender: news@informatik.uni-muenchen.de (News System) Message-ID: <CDuxzF.wv@informatik.uni-muenchen.de> Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1993 12:14:03 GMT References: <CDuqEv.627@cobra.cs.unm.edu> Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Universitaet Muenchen In article <CDuqEv.627@cobra.cs.unm.edu> ctm@ardi.com writes: > I don't know what the market for daydream would be either. I can say > that it's highly unlikely that there will ever be an application that > allows NeXTs to read 800K disks (the drives physically can't do it). > > Just because we haven't been advertising much since February, doesn't > mean that work on Executor has stopped. Mostly we've been caught up > with making it work under NeXTSTEP/Intel and DOS, but Executor/DOS > should ship starting October 15 and then we'll get back to making more > applications work under Executor. > > For the record: Executor *does* let you use a modem (on black hardware; > modems used to crash your machine on white hardware--not our fault). > Executor *does* let you print to your NeXT laser printer and Executor *does* > play nicely with NEXTSTEP (allowing rich text cut and paste and PICT > cut and paste (which can be converted to EPS with David Burrowe's ConvertPICT > freeware)). Executor *doesn't* require Black hardware, but will run faster > on it than on white hardware. > > NOTE: The reason other emulators run more software than Executor is that > other emulators use Apple's ROMs or System File, while we've rewritten > that ourselves. Unfortunately we haven't had sufficient revenue from > the NeXT marketplace to hire enough engineers to get as far along > compatibility-wise as we'd like, luckily our DOS revenues should clear > that up. > > As for comparing Amax and daydream, I don't think Amax comes ready to use, > does it? I think it requires the end user to obtain Mac ROMs, but I could > be mistaken. > > --Cliff > ctm@ardi.com The problem with Executor is, that you really just can use it for Word and Excel. We have Executor here at our lab and I once tried to run Ragtime3.1, but there wasn't the slightest chance to get more than the info panel. So while talking about Executor you can't really say that it is a full blown Mac emulator that's just not true. I really like the idea of Executor with all the copy and paste and so on, but it just doesn't work really stable. Perhaps 2.0 will bring the real boost. --- Dominik Westner "Everything is possible in an infinite universe" ______________________________________________________Willi, the painter Dominik Westner Muenchen-Germany HOME: dominik@blackmagic.guug.de [NeXTMail welcome] UNI: westner@informatik.uni-muenchen.de [NeXTMail welcome]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: westner@picasso.pst.informatik.uni-muenchen.de (Dominik Westner) Subject: cnews or INN - what is better? Sender: news@informatik.uni-muenchen.de (News System) Message-ID: <CDuy9o.10L@informatik.uni-muenchen.de> Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1993 12:20:12 GMT Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Universitaet Muenchen Hi, A few days ago I asked for help to install CNews. I got some replies to this. I understand that I can get a NeXT specific CNews package at cs.orst.edu. Somebody else recommended me to install INN instead. So right now I don't know, what is the right choice for me. I'm going to install it on a standalone NeXT running UUCP. Can anybody recommend me what to take or explain me the differences between CNEWS and INN. Thanks --- Dominik Westner "Everything is possible in an infinite universe" ______________________________________________________Willi, the painter Dominik Westner Muenchen-Germany HOME: dominik@blackmagic.guug.de [NeXTMail welcome] UNI: westner@informatik.uni-muenchen.de [NeXTMail welcome]
From: reuven@athena.mit.edu (Reuven M. Lerner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: What is the market for daydream? Date: 24 Sep 1993 12:50:54 GMT Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology Message-ID: <REUVEN.93Sep24085054@bolognese.mit.edu> References: <CDuqEv.627@cobra.cs.unm.edu> <CDuxzF.wv@informatik.uni-muenchen.de> In-reply-to: westner@picasso.pst.informatik.uni-muenchen.de's message of Fri, 24 Sep 1993 12:14:03 GMT >>>>> On Fri, 24 Sep 1993 12:14:03 GMT, >>>>> westner@picasso.pst.informatik.uni-muenchen.de (Dominik Westner) >>>>> said: Dominik> We have Executor here at our lab and I once tried to run Dominik> Ragtime3.1, but there wasn't the slightest chance to get Dominik> more than the info panel. Dominik> So while talking about Executor you can't really say that Dominik> it is a full blown Mac emulator that's just not true. All of the advertising I've seen from ARDI has been very open regarding what Executor will and won't run. They don't claim to have a Macintosh emulator (yet), only a program that will run a limited number of Macintosh programs. I don't own Executor, because I have no need to run Macintosh software. But I feel good whenever I see ARDI's literature, if only because it seems like they're setting an example of honesty in advertising, something the software industry sorely needs. (Of course, I don't have the product, so it's possible that they overstate things a bit... but the extensive disclaimers make me think otherwise.) Reuven
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: westner@picasso.pst.informatik.uni-muenchen.de (Dominik Westner) Subject: Re: What is the market for daydream? Sender: news@informatik.uni-muenchen.de (News System) Message-ID: <CDv1pn.1vv@informatik.uni-muenchen.de> Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1993 13:34:34 GMT References: <REUVEN.93Sep24085054@bolognese.mit.edu> Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Universitaet Muenchen In article <REUVEN.93Sep24085054@bolognese.mit.edu> reuven@athena.mit.edu (Reuven M. Lerner) writes: > >>>>> On Fri, 24 Sep 1993 12:14:03 GMT, > >>>>> westner@picasso.pst.informatik.uni-muenchen.de (Dominik Westner) > >>>>> said: > > Dominik> We have Executor here at our lab and I once tried to run > Dominik> Ragtime3.1, but there wasn't the slightest chance to get > Dominik> more than the info panel. > > Dominik> So while talking about Executor you can't really say that > Dominik> it is a full blown Mac emulator that's just not true. > > All of the advertising I've seen from ARDI has been very open > regarding what Executor will and won't run. They don't claim to have > a Macintosh emulator (yet), only a program that will run a limited > number of Macintosh programs. > > I don't own Executor, because I have no need to run Macintosh > software. But I feel good whenever I see ARDI's literature, if only > because it seems like they're setting an example of honesty in > advertising, something the software industry sorely needs. > > (Of course, I don't have the product, so it's possible that they > overstate things a bit... but the extensive disclaimers make me think > otherwise.) > > Reuven What I'm trying to say is, that daydream would really be the first product which could claim to run nearly every MacApp (Ok, no modem, no printer). Therefore I can see a market for it. However a price >$1000 is just to much (probably the apple roms are really expensive). --- Dominik Westner "Everything is possible in an infinite universe" ______________________________________________________Willi, the painter Dominik Westner Muenchen-Germany HOME: dominik@blackmagic.guug.de [NeXTMail welcome] UNI: westner@informatik.uni-muenchen.de [NeXTMail welcome]
From: cireyes Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Postscrip NeXT to HP PCL Date: 24 Sep 1993 08:45:17 -0600 Organization: ITESM, Campus Monterrey Sender: root@mtecv2.mty.itesm.mx Distribution: world Message-ID: <27v15t$1ovi@mtecv2.mty.itesm.mx> I'm looking for an utility that let me convert Postscrip files to PCL files for to print them in a HP printer and display those PCL files in a NeXT monitor and/or other divices. If I could need something else for one of that tasks (HW/SW) please let me know it. I will apreciate your help. Thanks Carmen Isabel Reyes Peraza Servicios de Informacion Escolar Instituto Tecnologico y de Estudios Superiores de Monterrey. Campus Monterrey.
From: cireyes Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Postscrip NeXT to HP PCL Date: 24 Sep 1993 08:43:37 -0600 Organization: ITESM, Campus Monterrey Sender: root@mtecv2.mty.itesm.mx Distribution: alt Message-ID: <27v12p$1fl7@mtecv2.mty.itesm.mx> I'm looking for an utility that let me convert Postscrip files to PCL files for to print them in a HP printer and display those PCL files in a NeXT monitor and/or other divices. If I could need something else for one of that tasks (HW/SW) please let me know it. I will apreciate your help. Thanks Carmen Isabel Reyes Peraza Servicios de Informacion Escolar Instituto Tecnologico y de Estudios Superiores de Monterrey. Campus Monterrey.
From: slv0y@cc.usu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: What is the market for daydream? Message-ID: <1993Sep24.085147.992@cc.usu.edu> Date: 24 Sep 93 08:51:47 MDT References: <27u3hq$c2g@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Organization: Utah State University In article <27u3hq$c2g@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>, jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) writes: > I don't understand who daydream is aimed at. Reading the ad in the > latest NeXTworld, I see that it: [features/limitations mentioned...] > I don't get why folks wouldn't simply get a real Mac and system 7.1, > running in color (I get the impression running this Mac gadget won't > make your NeXT a color Mac), multiprocess Mac and NS apps (running the > Mac right next to their NS machine would allow for absolutely no CPU > contention, no chance that one Mac process would screw up any NS > process) and know that a well-known company--Apple is behind their > product for the length of the warranty. There might even be problems > getting Mac vendors to support you if you run their Mac app on your > daydream Mac. > > If a Mac emulator must be purchased, it might actually be cheaper to > get a small Amiga + Amax (a Mac emulator much like daydream). Last > time I looked, Amax was quite a bit under the advertised price for > daydream, but that was months ago, so things may have changed. > -- > J.B. Nicholson-Owens (no NeXTmail please) The reason is simple. I have a few Mac apps that I need to run. I have black hardware already. I would love to have a Mac...but only if it was running NEXTSTEP. ;-) Why spend at least $2000+ for some more hardware to clutter my already overflowing desk when I can get a neat little box that turns my NeXT into what I need? I don't like Macs, I don't like the Mac OS, I think Quark Xpress sucks, but...Clients use it, so must I. What I want to know (I havn't seen the add), can it work over the network? Is there an Intel version in the works? Looking forward to it, John Zollinger slv0y@cc.usu.edu "Life is too important to take seriously."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore) Subject: has NeXT unbundled multiple languages ? Message-ID: <CDv3qA.3zM@genoa.com> Sender: alex@genoa.com (Alex Blakemore) Organization: Genoa Software Systems Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1993 14:18:10 GMT The latest price list for NS3.1 posted to csn.announce seems to imply that NeXT is unbundling the different languages, and selling them separately. Is that true? If so, I would be very sad to see it. I doubt it will raise revenue, but it could surely undercut one of their selling points of being a true international computer. Does this mean that after upgrading to 3.2, I'll lose support for non English languages? after PhoneKit, MusicKit, AppleTalk, and possibly now internationalization, I don't think I can stand any more "upgrades". Please tell me I misunderstand. > N5542 Release 3.1 upgrade for NeXT computers, English (from 3.0) > Price: > 10/1/93 Now > $195 $75 > N5553 Release 3.1 upgrade for NeXT computers, French (from 3.0) > Price: > 10/1/93 Now > $195 $75 -- Alex Blakemore alex@cs.umd.edu NeXT mail accepted
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: lorinr@altsys.com (Lorin Rivers III) Subject: Re: Appsoft Draw Message-ID: <1993Sep24.150732.2486@altsys.com> Organization: Altsys Corporation, Richardson, TX References: <27s0r5$9dt@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> <27sbke$m38@TAMUTS.TAMU.EDU> Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1993 15:07:32 GMT In article <27sbke$m38@TAMUTS.TAMU.EDU> lje0106@sigma.tamu.edu writes: >In article <27s0r5$9dt@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea >Brooks) writes: >| The "latest version" of Draw (1.02) is quite old, >| flawed, and seems to be going the way of WriteNow, >| i.e. dying if not dead. >| >| -RKD >| >I tend to agree with the flawed comment. If it is dying, what do you suggest as >a replacement? > >-- >^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >Louis Everett >lje0106@sigma.tamu.edu >NeXT mail welcome If I may be so bold, I might suggest you try Altsys Virtuoso. Virtuoso won the Best-of-Breed award from NeXTWorld and is a full featured drawing and single-page layout tool for anyone from hobbyist to professional graphic artist. Please contact me for more information. I will have a demo of Virtuoso 1.01 soon as well. -- Lorin Rivers Lorin_Rivers@altsys.com NEXTSTEP Sales Manager 214.680.2518 269 W. Renner Parkway NeXT Mail Expected Richardson, Texas 75080 I said it, not my boss
From: slv0y@cc.usu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: What is the market for daydream? Message-ID: <1993Sep24.085518.993@cc.usu.edu> Date: 24 Sep 93 08:55:18 MDT References: <27u3hq$c2g@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <CDuqEv.627@cobra.cs.unm.edu> Organization: Utah State University [stuff about Daydream & Executor deleted] > As for comparing Amax and daydream, I don't think Amax comes ready to use, > does it? I think it requires the end user to obtain Mac ROMs, but I could > be mistaken. > > --Cliff > ctm@ardi.com This is true. Amax does require Mac ROMs, but works quite nicely. John Zollinger slv0y@cc.usu.edu
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: has NeXT unbundled multiple languages ? Date: 24 Sep 1993 18:00:13 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <27vcjd$hsf@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <CDv3qA.3zM@genoa.com> alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore) writes: > The latest price list for NS3.1 posted to csn.announce seems to > imply that NeXT is unbundling the different languages, and selling > them separately. > > Is that true? ... > Please tell me I misunderstand. > > > N5542 Release 3.1 upgrade for NeXT computers, English (from 3.0) > > Price: > > 10/1/93 Now > > $195 $75 > > > N5553 Release 3.1 upgrade for NeXT computers, French (from 3.0) > > Price: > > 10/1/93 Now > > $195 $75 There has always been separate language versions of NeXTSTEP. In the past, what the difference has been is what language the *printed* documentation comes in. While I love a computer that can handle multiple languages, I really don't want to receive paper copies of all the NeXT manuals printed out in all the languages... I assume that's what this price list is refering to. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jr@sade.ka.sub.org (Jochen Richter) Subject: Re: What is the market for daydream? References: <CDv1pn.1vv@informatik.uni-muenchen.de> Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1993 18:20:14 GMT Organization: The home of the Pilhuhn Sender: news@pilhuhn.sub.org (Das Newssystem auf pilhuhn) Message-ID: <CDvExr.CwB@pilhuhn.sub.org> In article <CDv1pn.1vv@informatik.uni-muenchen.de> westner@picasso.pst.informatik.uni-muenchen.de (Dominik Westner) writes: > In article <REUVEN.93Sep24085054@bolognese.mit.edu> reuven@athena.mit.edu > (Reuven M. Lerner) writes: > > >>>>> On Fri, 24 Sep 1993 12:14:03 GMT, > > >>>>> westner@picasso.pst.informatik.uni-muenchen.de (Dominik Westner) > > >>>>> said: > > > > Dominik> We have Executor here at our lab and I once tried to run > > Dominik> Ragtime3.1, but there wasn't the slightest chance to get > > Dominik> more than the info panel. > > > > Dominik> So while talking about Executor you can't really say that > > Dominik> it is a full blown Mac emulator that's just not true. > > > > All of the advertising I've seen from ARDI has been very open > > regarding what Executor will and won't run. They don't claim to have > > a Macintosh emulator (yet), only a program that will run a limited > > number of Macintosh programs. > > > > I don't own Executor, because I have no need to run Macintosh > > software. But I feel good whenever I see ARDI's literature, if only > > because it seems like they're setting an example of honesty in > > advertising, something the software industry sorely needs. > > > > (Of course, I don't have the product, so it's possible that they > > overstate things a bit... but the extensive disclaimers make me think > > otherwise.) > > > > Reuven > > What I'm trying to say is, that daydream would really be the first product > which could claim to run nearly every MacApp (Ok, no modem, no printer). > Therefore I can see a market for it. However a price >$1000 is just to > much (probably the apple roms are really expensive). > From what I've heard it will retail US$795. It will run with a modem and use the NeXT Printer. And it support 12Bit on Color Stations and 24Bit on NeXTDimensions. Don't compare it with Executor (this is just child's play)! What most of you might have heard out there are still problems in the beta release or even before that. I consider this product a bomb! I am not affiliated with Quix in any way. -- Jochen Richter Phone +49-721-696922 Zahringerstrasse 57 Fax +49-721-696988 D-76133 Karlsruhe e-mail: jr@sade.ka.sub.org Germany jr@resy.kfk.de (>50K)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: lloyd@world.std.com (Chris Lloyd) Subject: Re: What is the market for daydream? Message-ID: <CDvH7v.JLD@world.std.com> Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA References: <CDv1pn.1vv@informatik.uni-muenchen.de> <CDvExr.CwB@pilhuhn.sub.org> Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1993 19:09:31 GMT Does daydream work on '030s? With some sort of video output solution that would be a cool use for the spare 030 boards out there. Another monitor/kb or maybe a little box which could switch the signals from each board to one monitor, flip/flop between a Mac and NEXTSTEP on your screen/kb. <shrug> not that I'd buy it, -- :: Christopher Lloyd :: Yrrid Incorporated :: lloyd@world.std.com ::
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs From: chris@iastate.edu (Chris Wong) Subject: Better color in Windooze than in NS? Message-ID: <chris.748897239@vincent1.iastate.edu> Sender: news@news.iastate.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1993 19:00:39 GMT It's amazing that viewing GIF files under Windooze or OS/2 is much much much better than viewing them under NS/FIP. Those images (GIFs) are copied from my DOS floppy and viewed under NS/FIP 3.1 with Dell 450DE/2 DGX. The difference between viewing these images under Windooze and NS/FIP is that.... the images seems to be "whitened" for a certain degree by DPS. Anything wrong with my hardware or NS? Those NS TIFFs icons are pretty. BTW, postscript images (not in EPS format) has the same problem as GIF's. (I created the postscript file under xv for X from an GIF file.) Any help would be appreciated. -- Chris Wong | "Hardware is supposed to serve Software." chris@iastate.edu | Computer Engineering & Computer Science twba8@isuvax.iastate.edu | Iowa State University of Science and Technology
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: ctm@cobra.cs.unm.edu (Clifford T. Matthews) Subject: Executor Explained (was Re: What is the market for daydream?) Message-ID: <CDvG96.EGy@cobra.cs.unm.edu> Sender: news@cobra.cs.unm.edu Organization: ARDI References: <27u3hq$c2g@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <CDuqEv.627@cobra.cs.unm.edu> <1993Sep24.085518.993@cc.usu.edu> Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1993 18:48:43 GMT To clear things up, we do push Executor primarily as a tool to run Word and Excel. Now that there's an ftp'able fully functional (for limited time) demo available on cs.unm.edu in pub/ardi, people are free to try it out with other apps to see what works and what doesn't. Just to make sure we're not stepping over the line, our first release of Executor for DOS will be billed as a tool for reading and writing Mac formatted floppies and priced accordingly (even though it *is* able to run a bunch of Mac programs). There are two ways to do a Mac emulator, "clean" and "dirty". A clean implementation is done exclusively by people with no inside information about how Macs actually do what they do. Furthermore clean people never talk to people with such information or try to glean such information by examining a Mac in detail (i.e. disassembling the ROMs or System File). As far as I know, there are only three companies who have done clean implementations of enough Mac stuff to have some Mac software running on non-Macs. ARDI with Executor, NuTek with their proprietary hardware and Quorum with Equal (available for SPARCs and MIPSs). Daydream, Amax and a wide variety of others were done "dirty", meaning the engineers have looked at the Mac ROMs enough to figure out what glue is necessary to get the job done. Amax requires you to obtain ROMs, I believe Daydream will come with ROMs from who knows where. By using Apple ROMs, dirty emulators can have a much higher degree of compatiblity than Executor currently has, although they usually either need a 680x0 underneath them or run *very* slowly on non-680x0 machines. One of the most expensive things about developing a clean-room reimplentation of Apple's OS is the manpower necessary to test all software and correct all differences. When we first started selling Executor, almost two years ago, the NeXT market looked very promising. The slabs were competitive price/performance wise and people *appeared* to be buying them. Unlike Quorum and NuTek, we had no funding, but it looked like we'd be able to get by on our NeXT sales. The first year was tight, but we were growing, in fact, last January we had three testers and moved into a larger office suite and had a couple of full page ads in the queue for NeXTWORLD. We really expected Executor to run most things within a year. February hit and our orders dropped to almost nothing at all. Luckily we had already embarked on the synthetic CPU project that we would have to complete before Executor would run on Intel processors. We shifted into high gear and have spent almost all of our time (there are fewer of us now) working on the synthetic CPU and our DOS port. That was the right thing to do, because if we had to live on our NeXT sales now, we just wouldn't get by. A Mac emulator made some sense on NeXT hardware, under NS/Intel it is very much a niche product. We actually advise people to seriously consider Soft-PC on Intel hardware instead of Executor if your goal is to run Word or Excel. We have always tried to be exceedingly honest. Executor comes with free updates until we support color. Originally the free updates were until October 1993, but we extended them to be capability based instead of time based because we lost so much time working on the Intel/DOS ports. In the long run, the benefits of us not using Apple's ROMs will far outweigh the compatibility deficiency that Executor still experiences. If you get a chance, compare Liken which uses the Mac ROMs and runs on SPARCs to Equal which doesn't use the Mac ROMs and runs on SPARCs to Executor/DOS and I think you'll agree that our core technology is the best (Executor will be available for SPARCs probably in November). I hope this doesn't sound too much like doom and gloom. Actually things are going exceedingly well over here. Robert Cringeley just mentioned in InfoWorld and luckily we have a press liason, so her, not my, phone is happily ringing off the hook. Even though some people pooh pooh it, emulation technology is going to be very big in the mid nineties; we're one of the firms looks scheduled to reap tremendous profits from our work in this area. I should have proofread my Daydream response more carefully and stressed that Executor as it stands now won't hold a candle to Daydream w.r.t. compatibility, but you should keep on eye on us; we're not abandoning the NeXT platform, our DOS revenue will be spent on core technology that will make all the Executors (NEXTSTEP, DOS, X-Windows and probably NT down the road) much more compatible. Here's your reward for reading this far: If you'd like to play around with a beta copy of Executor/DOS, and you're willing to write two paragraphs summarizing your experience, send me e-mail and I can tell you where you can pick up a copy via anonymous ftp. --Cliff[ord T. Matthews] ctm@ardi.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: chris@iastate.edu (Chris Wong) Subject: Can't install InstantTeX on NS/FIP Message-ID: <chris.748903324@vincent1.iastate.edu> Keywords: InstantTeX,tex,NS/FIP Sender: news@news.iastate.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1993 20:42:04 GMT I can't get InstantTeX installed. I stop with errors during installation. I found an 68k specific program binaries in the InstantTeX.pkg. Can someone compile a FAT version and place it in sonata? Thanks for any help. Chris. -- Chris Wong | "Hardware is supposed to serve Software." chris@iastate.edu | Computer Engineering & Computer Science twba8@isuvax.iastate.edu | Iowa State University of Science and Technology
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: ctm@ardi.com Subject: Re: Executor Explained (was Re: What is the market for daydream?) Message-ID: <CDvtJE.GuE@cobra.cs.unm.edu> Sender: news@cobra.cs.unm.edu Organization: ARDI References: <CDuqEv.627@cobra.cs.unm.edu> <1993Sep24.085518.993@cc.usu.edu> <CDvG96.EGy@cobra.cs.unm.edu> Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1993 23:35:39 GMT In article <CDvG96.EGy@cobra.cs.unm.edu> ctm@cobra.cs.unm.edu (Clifford T. Matthews) writes: ... >If you get a chance, compare Liken which uses the Mac ROMs and runs on SPARCs >to Equal which doesn't use the Mac ROMs and runs on SPARCs to Executor/DOS >and I think you'll agree that our core technology is the best (Executor >will be available for SPARCs probably in November). Oops. My mistake. Liken does not use the Mac ROMs per-se. Instead it requires that the user obtain a copy of the Macintosh System file and it uses that instead. Speedwise, there's not too much difference though because they're probably loading in all of the patches that the System File uses to update really old machines, so in essence the same code that's in the ROMs is being used. Part of this is conjecture on my part because I haven't ever played with our competitors products, but I do read reviews carefully, even reading between the lines when I have to. --Cliff ctm@ardi.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: action@indirect.com (Action) Subject: Attn: Steve Jobs What a Product Message-ID: <1993Sep25.001725.21998@indirect.com> Sender: action@indirect.com (Action) Organization: Internet Direct Inc. -- (602) 274-0100 Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1993 00:17:25 GMT By writing this I am sure I will get some flames but.. I called the 800-TRY-NEXT number for info on the software offer at $299.00. The people were very honest... More than I can say for NEXT. Steve Jobs if you read this I hope you take what I have to say serious. The NEXT computer died, now the software is left. Ver 3.1 is defective ! I would not expect to buy any product and have to pay for support. In the case of NEXT software I was told that "Installation Support" was available at the cost of $2.00 a minute on a 900 number. Installation support is something that I have to pay for ? And NO Upgrade at the $299 price. People, there are many operating systems in the Unix environment that have FREE lifetime support. I suggest that you are "CLEARING OUT" old, bugg ridden product in exchange for $$$. Steve, thats a great way to head to Chapter 7 again. Why don't you keep the cost in a real area, have real people available for support and charge $ 0 for it. Otherwise Novell, ESIX and others are going to do in your product. I saw the waste that went on at the hardware div. and I would not pay for you to continue to live the "GOOD LIFE" while you sell a defective product. Software people are tired of all promises and no performance. Jump at the chance to get ahead in the market. Fix the product and take the DOS area on strong - Mickey Soft needs to have a run for their money. If you continue on as you are,,I will wait and buy my software at the sale ! -- Jay William
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer From: jgg@LoftTech.com (J. G. Gregory) Subject: LoftTech seeks testers for Engineering Automation product Message-ID: <1993Sep25.013150.1346@LoftTech.com> Sender: jgg@LoftTech.com Organization: LoftTech Incorporated Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1993 01:31:50 GMT My company is readying a preliminary release of a new type of application called an "Engineering Automation Shell". We are seeking individuals and companies to evaluate the preliminary release. An engineering automation shell is a combination of CAD, spreadsheet, and expert system. Like a CAD system, you create geometry interactively. Like a spreadsheet, you can use formulas to relate any item to any other item. Like an expert system shell, you use it to create a system that automates a set of expert design rules. Unlike a CAD system, the result is not a flat database of geometric primitives, but a hierarchical, object-oriented, language-based description which captures design relationships in a way that can be reviewed, altered, or expanded at a later date. Unlike a spreadsheet, the objects related by formulas are not structured cells, but are named "slots" within model entities. Unlike an expert system shell, evaluation is not "fuzzy", but is efficient, directed, and demand driven. The product is called "Defigner(tm)" (silent g). It is targeted at mechanical engineers and designers. It could also be used for any modeling task that is complicated enough to make change of the model a hassle. The following description was recently posted to alt.cad.autocad: "Defigner allows engineers and programmers to define any relationship between any object and control how that relationship is used. Not only can you do simple things like move something while maintaining its relationships (like moving an arc and having lines tangent to it be updated as well), but you can incorporate all kinds of engineering that performs analyses and builds the design based upon the results. One of our examples is how a lightening hole conditionally appears depending on whether there is strength enough for it or not. Using Defigner, you create geometry interactively, just like you do in AutoCAD or other CAD systems. The entities are related to each other automatically, according to how you create them. As you want the objects to have more complex/specific/controlled relationships, (i.e., more "knowledge",) you can add formulas to specify any aspect of the definition of the geometry. Formulas can be as simple or as complex as you need them to be, ranging from simple numeric constants and arithmetic expressions, to IF statements, to user-supplied C code. The use of formulas is seamlessly and naturally integrated into Defigner, much like spreadsheets like Excel and 1-2-3. Formulas can be used to define non-geometric attributes as well, such as costs and material properties. Any attribute, whether geometric or not, can use the value of any other attribute. More advanced features: Defigner automatically creates an assembly hierarchy as you use it. Defigner lets you combine sets of formulas in an object-oriented style. Various windows let you examine formulas and values. A debugger helps you find mistakes. Full undo and redo capability means you can explore possibilities without fear of breaking something. The current version only interacts with AutoCAD via DXF files. We are exploring the interest in a version that is tied into ADS and uses AutoCAD more directly. One of the issues is whether customers interested in such an advanced product are willing to put up with the limitations of AutoCAD's database." The preliminary version available now runs on NeXTSTEP 3.1 and uses the NeXT-supplied 3Dkit exclusively. The real product will use real geometric modeling subsystems which are not (and may never be) available under NeXTSTEP. The range of available geometry in the preliminary version is limited. However, Defigner is a very open system which allows users to add new capabilities or override existing ones to solve a problem. We seek people who would be interested in trying out the product and giving us that essential feedback that makes a great application. You will be required to sign a non-disclosure agreement. Previous CAD and geometric modeling experience would be a plus. If you would like to apply to be a tester, send email to info@LoftTech.com. --J Gregory
From: russell@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Russell Schulz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Beginner Needs help with compiling Message-ID: <930923.220826.6i6.rusnews.w164w@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1993 22:08:26 MDT References: <27cdl4$658@mtu.edu> <27d8ll$ojs@mtu.edu> Followup-To: alt.flame.msdos Organization: Private System, Edmonton, AB, Canada jpweage@mathlab.mtu.edu (Joshua P. Weage) writes: > Sorry, I posted to quickly, I forgot everything I learned from > MS-DOS. that's a _good_ thing! -- Russell Schulz russell@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca ersys!rschulz Shad 86c
From: mycroft@monolith.utexas.edu (Alex Currier) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXTcube '040 and Opcode MIDI Translator II Inteface? Date: 25 Sep 1993 02:26:38 GMT Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas Message-ID: <280a8u$7nk@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> I was told this combination would work (NeXTcube '040 and Opcode MIDI Translator II Inteface) but upon taking it home I get input to the NeXT but no output. I'm running a demo of Presto v0.9.6b and can get neither pass through or playback of MIDI data. Do I need a special cable (if so, which lines need to be connected where?) or should I be using comm port A instead of B? Is there another program that I could use to test MIDI receive and send? Is there anyone out there doing MIDI on a NeXT who would like to be my mentor for a while? Does Diet Doctor Pepper really taste more like Regular Doctor Pepper? Does anyone care? Thanks! -- ======================================================================== Alex Currier | History is made at night... mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu | Character is what you are in the dark. ========================================================================
From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: What is the market for daydream? Date: 25 Sep 93 03:58:04 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <jeffo.748929484@uiuc.edu> References: <CDv1pn.1vv@informatik.uni-muenchen.de> <CDvExr.CwB@pilhuhn.sub.org> ctm@ardi.com writes: >I can say that it's highly unlikely that there will ever be an >application that allows NeXTs to read 800K disks (the drives >physically can't do it). Actually, with the latest Amax, the Amiga drives (also CLV drives) are said to be able to read and write 400k and 800k Mac diskettes. Jochen Richter writes: >From what I've heard [daydream] will retail US$795. Actually, it will go for that much until December 31, 1993, according to the ad in the most recent NeXTworld. >It will run with a modem and use the NeXT Printer. And it support 12Bit on >Color Stations and 24Bit on NeXTDimensions. Don't compare it with Executor >(this is just child's play)! I think comparisons with Executor are bound to be made because Executor is the only other product for NeXT hardware (and NS/I) that offers any level of Mac compatibility. Although it is good that daydream will work with System 7.1 and in color on color NeXT hardware, it might very well be that $800 is too much to justify on a 2-bit display NeXT machine. How much are 2-bit display Macs going for? For color though, if you've already got color NeXT hardware (especially an ND) and want to make it a Mac, I would guess you wouldn't be able to purchase a 24-bit color Mac for US$1000, so daydream could be a great buy. -- J.B. Nicholson-Owens (No NeXTmail please)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: lloyd@world.std.com (Chris Lloyd) Subject: Re: What is the market for daydream? Message-ID: <CDw6wB.Jxr@world.std.com> Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA References: <CDv1pn.1vv@informatik.uni-muenchen.de> <CDvExr.CwB@pilhuhn.sub.org> <jeffo.748929484@uiuc.edu> Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1993 04:24:10 GMT In article <jeffo.748929484@uiuc.edu> jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) writes: >ctm@ardi.com writes: > >>I can say that it's highly unlikely that there will ever be an >>application that allows NeXTs to read 800K disks (the drives >>physically can't do it). > >Actually, with the latest Amax, the Amiga drives (also CLV drives) are >said to be able to read and write 400k and 800k Mac diskettes. I wouldn't be surprised. Isn't the only basic difference that the 400/800k drives have variable rotational speeds while the 700/1400/2800 ones are constant? I would think you could ex/interpolate the fixed velocity readings from a 1400K disk into the 400/800k data, and with a 2.88 drive you could get even better samples to work with. Somewhat akin to disk nibblers used to copy games with funky disk formats. than again, I'm no expert, -- :: Christopher Lloyd :: Yrrid Incorporated :: lloyd@world.std.com ::
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) Subject: Re: Attn: Steve Jobs What a Product Message-ID: <1993Sep25.043434.8603@cs.yale.edu> Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News) Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT References: <1993Sep25.001725.21998@indirect.com> Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1993 04:34:34 GMT In article <1993Sep25.001725.21998@indirect.com> action@indirect.com (Action) writes: > The NEXT computer died, now the software is left. Ver 3.1 is defective ! > I would not expect to buy any product and have to pay for support. In > the case of NEXT software I was told that "Installation Support" was > available at the cost of $2.00 a minute on a 900 number. Installation > support is something that I have to pay for ? And NO Upgrade at the $299 > price. People, there are many operating systems in the Unix environment > that have FREE lifetime support. I'd like to know what companies sell $299 Unix systems with lifetime free support. Even uSoft just announced that it will begin charging for software support. 900 number support can be fairly priced if you don't get charged for waiting on hold for 20 minutes. I'd rather NeXT that NeXT charged a fair price for support and could afford many support staff. -- Nathan "USENET" Janette PPP link from hilbert.csb.yale.edu Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jjfeiler@relief.com (John Jay Feiler) Subject: Re: Looking for FormKit Message-ID: <1993Sep25.034305.18312@relief.com> Sender: jjfeiler@relief.com Organization: relief consulting References: <CDtu5t.2ny@genoa.com> Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1993 03:43:05 GMT In article <CDtu5t.2ny@genoa.com> alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore) writes: > The book Objects in Action gives a nice description of a OO kit > developed in house at NeXT to facilitate writing forms based apps. > (automated expense forms, purchasing forms etc). > > It was called, of course, FormKit. > > Was this ever released in any form (grown), even unsupported or as an > example? > -- > Alex Blakemore > alex@cs.umd.edu NeXT mail accepted Last I heard (NWE), there was some kind of deal between NeXT and Pencom involving FormKit and PhoneKit, but I haven't heard anything since then..... John -- John Feiler jjfeiler@relief.com 4926 152nd St. SW NeXTmail Welcome!!! Edmonds, WA 98026-4433 Independent NeXTSTEP Developer
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Better color in Windooze than in NS? Date: 25 Sep 1993 07:36:49 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <280seh$dsl@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <chris.748897239@vincent1.iastate.edu> chris@iastate.edu (Chris Wong) writes: > It's amazing that viewing GIF files under Windooze or OS/2 is much > much much better than viewing them under NS/FIP. > > Those images (GIFs) are copied from my DOS floppy and viewed under > NS/FIP 3.1 with Dell 450DE/2 DGX. The difference between viewing > these images under Windooze and NS/FIP is that.... the images seems > to be "whitened" for a certain degree by DPS. Most images, such as GIF images, are stored with a gamma (brightness) correction in them. As I understand it, the reason for this is historical, it is an artifact of the way that monitors work (or to be more specific, the away the original TV sets worked). For some discussion on this, check the help information in the PhotoAlbum.app which comes with NeXTSTEP-3.1. Under the "Preferences" part of the help information, there is a paragraph on gamma correction. The difference in how DPS on a color NeXT handles brightness and the way most other OS's handle brightness is quite noticable. Assuming you have on your NeXT the same programs I have on mine, you can see this difference by: open up a GIF image (in PixelMagician, in my case) & save it as TIFF open up the TIFF file (in TIFFany, in my case) & use a Brightness Control panel (in the Color Control inspector) to apply a gamma of 0.4545 (or maybe a little higher, 0.5 or 0.6). Compare the result of that with the original image. If the original was created for some other platform, the above transformation will result in a much more realistic looking picture. The funny thing is that many pictures won't seem to look all that bad until you have the corrected version of the picture to compare it against. Things get a little tricker than even that, as people with greyscale NeXTstations do not get the type of brightness processing that a user gets when using NeXTSTEP on a Color machine. Thus, a picture which looks too bright on a color NeXT will probably look about right on a greyscale machine. And if you correct the brightness so things look right on the color machine, it will look much too dark on the greyscale machine. As I understand it, there is good reason for the way NeXTSTEP handles brightness on a color display. However, the consequence of that is that "generic viewers" (such as GIF viewers) need to have some way to adjust the brightness level of images that they display. Note that this has to be an *option* - it can't be automatically done all the time - if for no other reason than images on greyscale NeXT's would come out wrong. I do believe that there are some GIF viewers for NeXTSTEP which have that ability, but I don't know which ones those would be. I really can't imagine the rationale behind the brightness being handled differently between color and greyscale NeXT's. I find this rather irritating, in fact. It means that any image (such as face-tiffs for mail) really have to be setup as two images, one for color and one for greyscale, in order to get the brightness level right on all NeXTSTEP machines. Arrrrggggggg!! (note that I don't know if NS/Intel running on greyscale PC's works like greyscale NeXTstations or like color NeXTstations. It's clear from your comment that NS/Intel on color PC's works like color NeXTstations). Disclaimer: I make no pretensions of being an expert in this area. I'm sure that someone who understands the issues more would do a better job at explaining it. Added rambling: People have complained that NS-3.0 icons look "muddy" (or something) on greyscale machines. I wonder if this might be partially due to this brightness mismatch between color and greyscale machines? -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: marsella@athos.rutgers.edu (Stacy Marsella) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: ACL 3.1.20 on NS 3.1 Message-ID: <Sep.24.23.33.03.1993.6074@athos.rutgers.edu> Date: 25 Sep 93 03:33:04 GMT Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J. Has anyone successfully built a Franz Allegro CL 3.1.20 image under NextStep 3.1? I am having problems. I just upgraded Nextstep 3.0 to 3.1 and noticed the patched version of Franz Allegro CL 3.1.20 I built that ran under Nextstep 3.0 would no longer work. So I rebuilt CL using the ucl.o and lib (e.g. libdsp.a) patches that worked for NS 3.0. That SEEMED to work at first but something is flaky - because when I rebuilt CommonMusic (basically a dumped lisp image) it no longer could successfully access libdsp.a. Now there are alot of things that could be going amiss here and, as the 3.0 patch suggested, the fix may be arcane. So I was wondering if anyone had got this to work and, if so, how? On a related note, where can I find an akcl that works (my 3.1 developer kit is backordered so unfortunatelt there is a limit to what I can do in this regard at the moment) And to think I was happily composing just yesterday - Thanks for any help Stacy Marsella marsella@ruccs.rutgers.edu
From: gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: SBook Gets it Wrong? Date: 25 Sep 1993 11:37:03 GMT Organization: University of Maryland, College Park Message-ID: <281agv$i86@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> I was overjoyed when Sarris upgraded SBook so that it would print envelopes on Non-Next printers (i.e. envelopes fed into printer aligned with edges of tray, not in a middle slot). But imagine my dismay when I realized that SBook expects envelopes to be fed in with stamp side down. My HP Laserjet 4M wants the stamp side up, as, I imagine, 80% of laser printers (and 80% of them may be HP printers, for all I know). The defect in SBook results in upsidedown addressing. Stuff printed on correct side of envelope, but UPSIDEDOWN. Sigh. - Anathea University of Maryland
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.software From: dave@prim.demon.co.uk (Dave Griffiths) Subject: Re: Better color in Windooze than in NS? Message-ID: <1993Sep25.105734.4031@prim.demon.co.uk> Organization: Primitive Software Ltd. References: <chris.748897239@vincent1.iastate.edu> <280seh$dsl@usenet.rpi.edu> Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1993 10:57:34 GMT In article <280seh$dsl@usenet.rpi.edu> gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) writes: > >As I understand it, there is good reason for the way NeXTSTEP handles >brightness on a color display. However, the consequence of that >is that "generic viewers" (such as GIF viewers) need to have some >way to adjust the brightness level of images that they display. Note >that this has to be an *option* - it can't be automatically done all >the time - if for no other reason than images on greyscale NeXT's >would come out wrong. I do believe that there are some GIF viewers >for NeXTSTEP which have that ability, but I don't know which ones >those would be. I've just compared a monalisa.gif under ViewGif3 and ImageViewer 0.7 on my monochrome display and the results are strikingly different. The ImageViewer version looks over-exposed, while the ViewGif3 one is darker and richer. Dave Griffiths PS: Does anyone know of a Filter Service for GIFs?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software From: jpw@sansfoy.lib.Virginia.EDU (John Price-Wilkin) Subject: SLIP server for NeXT Message-ID: <CDx46F.3tH@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU Organization: University of Virginia Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1993 16:23:02 GMT Does anyone have experience configuring Louis Mamakos's DialUP-IP software as a SLIP server on a NeXT for a single user? I'm at a loss as to where to start with editing the /etc/ttys and /etc/gettytab. A pointer to an FAQ, man pages, or a just a report of experience in getting something like this set up would be appreciated. John Price-Wilkin jpw@virginia.edu
From: gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Envelopes with SBook 3.1 (solved) Date: 25 Sep 1993 17:07:18 GMT Organization: University of Maryland, College Park Message-ID: <281ts6$mf7@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> Well, nothing like experiment. SBook 3.1 will print envelopes with an HP printer if the envelope is feed STAMP AT LOWER RIGHT. -Anathea
Organization: Penn State University Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1993 12:48:33 EDT From: <CEW108@psuvm.psu.edu> Message-ID: <93268.124833CEW108@psuvm.psu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: TAR Does anybody know of a good TAR program? I have several files that are compact ed with tar and I can't find a program to undo the process.
From: tjhendry@mcs.drexel.edu (Jonathan Hendry) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Attn: Steve Jobs What a Product Message-ID: <1993Sep25.165649.21363@netnews.noc.drexel.edu> Date: 25 Sep 93 16:56:49 GMT References: <1993Sep25.001725.21998@indirect.com> Sender: news@netnews.noc.drexel.edu Organization: Drexel University, Dept. of Math. and Comp. Sci. Action (action@indirect.com) wrote: : going to do in your product. I saw the waste that went on at the hardware : div. and I would not pay for you to continue to live the "GOOD LIFE" while : you sell a defective product. Software people are tired of all promises : and no performance. Jump at the chance to get ahead in the market. Fix : the product and take the DOS area on strong - Mickey Soft needs to have : a run for their money. If you continue on as you are,,I will wait and : buy my software at the sale ! Guess what? Microsoft charges for support too. It's how things work these days. Get used to it.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dsiebert@icaen.uiowa.edu (Doug Siebert) Subject: Re: What is the market for daydream? Sender: news@news.uiowa.edu (News) Message-ID: <1993Sep25.190447.11677@news.uiowa.edu> Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1993 19:04:47 GMT References: <CDv1pn.1vv@informatik.uni-muenchen.de> <CDvExr.CwB@pilhuhn.sub.org> <jeffo.748929484@uiuc.edu> Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) writes: >ctm@ardi.com writes: >>I can say that it's highly unlikely that there will ever be an >>application that allows NeXTs to read 800K disks (the drives >>physically can't do it). >Actually, with the latest Amax, the Amiga drives (also CLV drives) are >said to be able to read and write 400k and 800k Mac diskettes. >Jochen Richter writes: >>From what I've heard [daydream] will retail US$795. >Actually, it will go for that much until December 31, 1993, according >to the ad in the most recent NeXTworld. >>It will run with a modem and use the NeXT Printer. And it support 12Bit on >>Color Stations and 24Bit on NeXTDimensions. Don't compare it with Executor >>(this is just child's play)! >I think comparisons with Executor are bound to be made because >Executor is the only other product for NeXT hardware (and NS/I) that >offers any level of Mac compatibility. >Although it is good that daydream will work with System 7.1 and in >color on color NeXT hardware, it might very well be that $800 is too >much to justify on a 2-bit display NeXT machine. How much are 2-bit >display Macs going for? For color though, if you've already got color >NeXT hardware (especially an ND) and want to make it a Mac, I would >guess you wouldn't be able to purchase a 24-bit color Mac for US$1000, >so daydream could be a great buy. You can get Macs with 24 bit color for $1000, I think the LC III can do 24 bit color on a 640x480 screen. Apple is about to go through another product realignment and price cut, the new Quadra 605 will surely do 24 bit color on a small screen, and be able to do at least 8 bit color (all most Mac users not doing photo or video stuff really need anyway) and maybe 16 bit color on a larger monitor. You can probably hook up a 17" or 21" NeXT monitor to a Mac with an appropriate cable, and get at least 8 bit color. And the Q605 will probably not cost much more than $1000, probably less than that educational, at a guess. Would you rather pay $795 to make your NeXT run Mac stuff, or pay a couple hundred more and have a whole complete Mac to do that stuff? I know what I'd do... If that product was under $400 I might consider it for my color slab, but for $795 I'll buy a Mac if I need to run Mac stuff (right now I have a Q800 that will soon be a Q840av at work I can use so I probably wouldn't buy it unless it was <$200) Anyone know how much Apple is charging them for licensing the LC ROMs? That is probably why the product is so expensive. Maybe it can be purchased at a discount if you supply your own ROMs? There must be a few dead LC's here and there, their ROMs are useless since Amiga Mac emulators use Plus ROMs, so they can probably be had fairly cheaply if you find one... -- Doug Siebert dsiebert@isca.uiowa.edu "Had this been an actual emergency, we would have fled in terror, and you would not have been informed." --Someone more clever than I
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: DATE (was Re: Thank you to all those who replied,...) Message-ID: <Sep.21.17.33.57.1993.20397@gandalf.rutgers.edu> Date: 21 Sep 93 21:33:57 GMT References: <CDowE5.419@number_one.apana.org.au> <1993Sep21.155823.26838@leland.Stanford.EDU> Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J. spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) writes: >I use Date I end up thinking how much I'd like to have Pencil-Me-In. >If only its price wasn't so high... (even at the recently announced >bundle price with SBook, its far outside my reach for that class of >application). Ditto! I remember when SBook was going for 50bux edu. I wanted to get it, but when I tried they changed the price to something too high in my opinion (for that catagory of app). That 250 bundle deal is still too high. 100 bux for the both and I'd be all over that package, but until then I'll just use my watch and notepad. But I'll keep waiting...Eventually there will be a sale or some one selling their copy etc. and I'll suck both SBook and Pencil Me In up because they are great products. Hopefully w e'll get some more NeXTSTEP users and the margins on NS programs will come down. later, John
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: TAR Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1993 15:34:06 -0400 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Chemistry, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <Ugd9oiW00YUo9cgs4n@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <93268.124833CEW108@psuvm.psu.edu> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 25-Sep-93 TAR by CEW108@psuvm.psu.edu > Does anybody know of a good TAR program? I have several files that are > compacted with tar and I can't find a program to undo the process. TAR isn't a "compaction" utility, it's an archiver: (TAR = Tape ARchiver). Tar is often used to group a set of files together in a single file. You then compress this file (known as a .tar file) with your favorite utility, such as compress or gzip. Anyway, to get the files out of a .tar file, try "tar xvf <my_file>.tar", replacing <my_file> with the right name. If you don't have tar on your system, try compiling GNU tar which is available from prep.ai.mit.edu it /pub/gnu. Good luck, -Chuck Charles William Swiger -- CMU...*crunch*! | 1. You can't fly. ------------------------------------------+ 2. Cars are always real, even AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | when they're not. Failing that: cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu | 3. Police are not your friends. NeXTmail: chuck@mon.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | 4. Fire burns.
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: PPP software Keywords: PPP, NeXT Message-ID: <Sep.23.22.15.48.1993.27511@gandalf.rutgers.edu> Date: 24 Sep 93 02:15:48 GMT References: <CDs4rq.4qF@ucdavis.edu> Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J. heberlei@cs.ucdavis.edu (Louis Todd Heberlein) writes: >I have Marble's Teleconnect software for SLIP, but my university >has stopped supporting SLIP at any speed over 2400 bps, so I >need to switch to PPP. Speaking of which, Marble does not have a version of SLIP for NSi. Is there ANY version of SLIP availible on NSi? Thanks, John
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: NSFIP worked fine with PCI + 805 on PCI Date: 23 Sep 1993 09:26:15 +0100 Organization: Palumbian Research Labs Distribution: comp Message-ID: <27rmj8$1k8@marsu.tynet.sub.org> References: <TUTUI.93Sep20111426@pipi.ics.kula.kyoto-u.ac.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit tutui@ics.kula.kyoto-u.ac.jp (Takashi TSUTSUI) writes: >Ns FIP worked fine with PCI MB + 805 PCI Display card at VGA/SVGA mode > + Adaptec 1542B/C on isa. The Mb have phoenix bios for PCI. >The performance is good enough but I have not enough memory to use >NSFIP, my memory size is 4MB * 2, I still cannot figure out the >true performance of the system. >NeXTSTEP worked fine with colour. :o >The MB is made in thailand, using intel Version 2 saturn chipset, there are no >further large chips on the MB, except NCR SCSI II IF, 256kb write back >Cache (expandable to 512), and 2 bank 32bit*2*2 simm slots. >I have heard that there are some problems on the 'data acknowledge?' >when used with OS2. But I use nextstep without problems. I'd say only 8 MB RAM is a really severe problem! But if you can fill your banks up to at least 16 or 24 MB, could you please run NXBench and report the results of the graphics performance? My dream is a PCI board with S3-928P graphics - it should outperform any NS/I box and TurboColorStation. -- /dev Markus Wenzel, University of Stuttgart /usr/spool/mail mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org ~/.ircrc/nick Marsu /etc/motd Yesterday MS-DOS reformatted my NeXTSTEP partiton.
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Appsoft Draw Date: 23 Sep 1993 09:47:07 +0100 Organization: Palumbian Research Labs Message-ID: <27rnqb$1mt@marsu.tynet.sub.org> References: <CDHFzH.6BJ@molly.uucp> <Sep17.141018.93521@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit randall@redfish.atmos.colostate.edu (Dave Randall) writes: >In article <CDHFzH.6BJ@molly.uucp> uunet!molly!vlcek (Jim Vlcek) writes: >> I bought Appsoft Draw v1.0 some time back, when they had a special sale on it >> for $150. I've used it off and on since then; it's generally decent but has >> some noticeable bugs. >> >> What kind of experiences have people had with Appsoft Draw v2.0? Is it worth >> it for me to upgrade the version I have? >I was not aware that there was a version 2.0. Are you sure? When did it come >out? I don't know by hard which version the one on the 3rd-party demo CD included in NS 3.1 is, but it crashes any time you want to :-(( -- /dev Markus Wenzel, University of Stuttgart /usr/spool/mail mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org ~/.ircrc/nick Marsu /etc/motd Yesterday MS-DOS reformatted my NeXTSTEP partiton.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jfr@aspen.pdh.com (Jon F. Rosen) Subject: Re: What is the market for daydream? Message-ID: <CDx86z.EIK@pdh.com> Sender: news@pdh.com (USENET News Account) Organization: PDH, Inc. References: <jeffo.748929484@uiuc.edu> Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1993 17:49:46 GMT J.B. Nicholson-Owens writes >[munch] > Although it is good that daydream will work with System 7.1 and > in color on color NeXT hardware, it might very well be that $800 > is too much to justify on a 2-bit display NeXT machine. How much > are 2-bit display Macs going for? For color though, if you've > already got color NeXT hardware (especially an ND) and want to > make it a Mac, I would guess you wouldn't be able to purchase a > 24-bit color Mac for US$1000, so daydream could be a great buy. Actually, its pretty close on price. There aren't any 2-bit Macs that I know of, only 1-bit mono, 4-bit color/mono, 8-bit color/mono, 16-bit color and 32-bit color. There also are only a FEW 24-bit NeXTs (Dimensions). I have heard that there will be 24-bit/32-bit NS/FIP but I think that doesn't happen until 3.2. In any case, you can get a MacII vx WITH a CD-ROM built-in, 4meg of memory and 80meg hard disk for $1283 at Fry's today (this includes an Apple instant rebate of $150). You have to add $49 for a keyboard and some kind of monitor (although you might be able to use your NeXT color monitor). Mac LC IIIs are slightly cheaper but with fewer features. These are all 8-bit color machines. With both a Mac and a NeXT, you can use your NeXT as a print spooler, I believe. With daydream, no use of the NeXT printer at all. The Mac Color Classic is $1195 including keyboard and monitor (all built-in). Its screen is small, but it is a cool machine too. I think $795 is WAY too high for an almost-Mac-alike with some serious deficiencies and no interoperability with the NeXT. Better get a real Mac. Also, 800K disks are still shipped with many products because there are still a lot of Macs out there that don't support the 1.4M disk. Jon Rosen
From: wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu (Wassim M. Jabi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Where is "Pages"? Date: 25 Sep 1993 22:01:05 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor Distribution: usa Message-ID: <282f31INN47o@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> Hi: Did anyone see/try "Pages by Pages"? It is listed in the "Third-Party Products" catalog, with availability in June 93!!!!. I tried e-mailing the company (info@pages.com). A "Susan Peterson" apparently read my message (Receipt option is great). But, no one replied. I'm trying to decide what package to write my dissertation with. Any information about this product is greatly appreciated. Thank you. -- Wassim M. Jabi (313) 936-0229 Doctoral Program in Architecture, University of Michigan 2000 Bonisteel Boulevard Ann Arbor Michigan 48105-2313 wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu NeXTMail-friendly
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: ctm@ardi.com Subject: Re: What is the market for daydream? Message-ID: <CDxnFr.18z@cobra.cs.unm.edu> Sender: news@cobra.cs.unm.edu Organization: ARDI References: <CDvExr.CwB@pilhuhn.sub.org> <jeffo.748929484@uiuc.edu> <CDw6wB.Jxr@world.std.com> Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1993 23:19:05 GMT In article <CDw6wB.Jxr@world.std.com> lloyd@world.std.com (Chris Lloyd) writes: >In article <jeffo.748929484@uiuc.edu> jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) writes: >>ctm@ardi.com writes: >> >>>I can say that it's highly unlikely that there will ever be an >>>application that allows NeXTs to read 800K disks (the drives >>>physically can't do it). >> >>Actually, with the latest Amax, the Amiga drives (also CLV drives) are >>said to be able to read and write 400k and 800k Mac diskettes. > > I wouldn't be surprised. Isn't the only basic difference that the > 400/800k drives have variable rotational speeds while the 700/1400/2800 > ones are constant? I would think you could ex/interpolate the fixed > velocity readings from a 1400K disk into the 400/800k data, and with > a 2.88 drive you could get even better samples to work with. Somewhat > akin to disk nibblers used to copy games with funky disk formats. Well, *perhaps* it is possible to make the drives physically read and maybe even write 800K disks, but then you need to do some severe mucking with NeXTSTEP to either patch your driver on top of theirs, or to at least bypass their driver selectively. If anyone knows specifically how Amax does their magic, and wants to pass the info on to me, I'll give it a shot. I'm not particularly shy about trying to get computers to do goofy things. However, it's still possible that the Amiga drives are sufficiently different from what's inside a NeXT that it really is impossible to do what you want to do, as opposed to just sufficiently difficult that you won't see it done for such a small potential market. As to disk nibblers, I thought that stuff was all done one machines (like the Mac) that had controllers that allowed much greater control of the disk drive than is now available. It is my impression that new disk controllers just don't allow you to play the games that older ones did. I can't say I'm familiar with the specifics though. --Cliff ctm@ardi.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: netcom.com!kira!davidjohn (David John Burrowes) Subject: Text to Speech Message-ID: <1993Sep25.144057.813@kira.net.netcom.com> Sender: davidjohn@kira.net.netcom.com Organization: No organization at this time. Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1993 14:40:57 GMT I've noticed that Trillium Sound Research has a TextToSpeech kit available for NeXTSTEP. Does anyone have any experience with this product in any form? How good is the sound? Are there demos anywhere, etc? Thanks \david john burrowes davidjohn@kira.net.netcom.com
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Attn: Steve Jobs What a Product Date: 26 Sep 1993 00:38:18 -0400 Organization: Digital Fix Development Distribution: world Message-ID: <2836bq$50r@digifix.digifix.com> References: <1993Sep25.165649.21363@netnews.noc.drexel.edu> Jonathan Hendry writes > Action (action@indirect.com) wrote: > > : going to do in your product. I saw the waste that went on at the hardware > : div. and I would not pay for you to continue to live the "GOOD LIFE" while > > Guess what? Microsoft charges for support too. It's how things work > these days. Get used to it. Plus ANYONE who thinks that Steve is living the 'GOOD LIFE'* off of NeXT and NEXTSTEP at this point is seriously whacked! Now if someone was to say that Bill Gates was living the 'GOOD LIFE'* at the expense of all those poor MS-DOS, WINDOZE, WINDOZE NT and the soon to be released WINDOZE NT Toaster, Oven, Blender and foot massager... well I'd have a hard time arguing the point! Anyone remember the MS-DOS 6.0 release? * GOOD LIFE interpreted as making money. -- - Scott Anguish - sanguish@digifix.com (NextMail) next-announce@digifix.com (comp.sys.next.announce submissions)
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: DATE (was Re: Thank you to all those who replied,...) Date: 26 Sep 1993 00:40:56 -0400 Organization: Digital Fix Development Distribution: world Message-ID: <2836go$510@digifix.digifix.com> References: <Sep.21.17.33.57.1993.20397@gandalf.rutgers.edu> John Kheit writes > spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) writes: > > >I use Date I end up thinking how much I'd like to have Pencil-Me-In. > >If only its price wasn't so high... (even at the recently announced > >bundle price with SBook, its far outside my reach for that class of > >application). > Ditto! I remember when SBook was going for 50bux edu. I wanted to get it, but when I tried they changed the price to something too high in my opinion (for that catagory of app). That 250 bundle deal is still too high. 100 bux for the both and I'd be all over that package, but until then I'll just use my watch and notepad. But I'll keep waiting...Eventually there will be a sale or some one selling their copy etc. and I'll suck both SBook and Pencil Me In up because they are great products. Hopef You should look at InTouch! Its on the archives as a demo, and it has all that SBook has and then some. And edu price is $50! I'm not involved with it, I just posted the announcement and had a look at it right away. -- - Scott Anguish - sanguish@digifix.com (NextMail) next-announce@digifix.com (comp.sys.next.announce submissions)
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: PPP software Date: 26 Sep 1993 00:44:04 -0400 Organization: Digital Fix Development Distribution: world Message-ID: <2836mk$513@digifix.digifix.com> References: <Sep.23.22.15.48.1993.27511@gandalf.rutgers.edu> John Kheit writes > heberlei@cs.ucdavis.edu (Louis Todd Heberlein) writes: > >I have Marble's Teleconnect software for SLIP, but my university > >has stopped supporting SLIP at any speed over 2400 bps, so I > >need to switch to PPP. > Speaking of which, Marble does not have a version of SLIP for NSi. Is there ANY version of SLIP availible on NSi? Marble has no SLIP for NSi? Good! There NeXT 68K version sucked. I own it, but I use Louis' software. Louis tells you up front about the potential lack of support/hand-holding, and yet often helps out. Marble??? Nope. They charge you, and then ignore you! Hopefully Louis will have an intel version soon now that we have new serial drivers. If you MUST get something now, Morningstar has PPP (and SLIP) for NEXTSTEP (680x0 and Intel) and its supported! -- - Scott Anguish - sanguish@digifix.com (NextMail) next-announce@digifix.com (comp.sys.next.announce submissions)
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: TAR Date: 26 Sep 1993 00:45:58 -0400 Organization: Digital Fix Development Distribution: world Message-ID: <2836q6$51c@digifix.digifix.com> References: <Ugd9oiW00YUo9cgs4n@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes > Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 25-Sep-93 TAR by > CEW108@psuvm.psu.edu > > Does anybody know of a good TAR program? I have several files that are > > compacted with tar and I can't find a program to undo the process. > > TAR isn't a "compaction" utility, it's an archiver: (TAR = Tape ARchiver). [munch ] > > If you don't have tar on your system, try compiling GNU tar which is > available from prep.ai.mit.edu it /pub/gnu. > Uh Chuck... if he doesn't have tar, he probably doesn't have a compiler, and for sure he will not be able to untar the gnu-tar that he downloads. Then of course, if he doesn't have tar, he also probably doesn't have gzip and .... well, I think you see where I am headed ! :-) -- - Scott Anguish - sanguish@digifix.com (NextMail) next-announce@digifix.com (comp.sys.next.announce submissions)
From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: What is the market for daydream? Date: 26 Sep 93 05:45:47 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <jeffo.749022347@uiuc.edu> References: <CDv1pn.1vv@informatik.uni-muenchen.de> <CDvExr.CwB@pilhuhn.sub.org> <jeffo.748929484@uiuc.edu> <1993Sep25.190447.11677@news.uiowa.edu> Jon Rosen writes: >Also, 800K disks are still shipped with many products because there >are still a lot of Macs out there that don't support the 1.4M disk. I think this alone might be enough to tip the scales in favor of getting a real Mac. What a hassle it would be to have to deal with these disks on a drive that can't read them. Doug Siebert writes: >Would you rather pay $795 to make your NeXT run Mac stuff, or pay a >couple hundred more and have a whole complete Mac to do that stuff? I >know what I'd do... I would definately get the Mac. Being able to do true multiprocessing of Mac and NS apps with no chance that any NS app will screw up or cause problems for any Mac app (and vice versa) is appealing. Also, not having to settle for a non-System-7 and non-color Mac would be very important for being able to keep up with upgrades and features in the latest Mac apps (some Mac apps simply *require* System-7, no argument about it). With two machines, you'd also get to use the neat Unix apps and great file manipulation utilities from the net on the NS machine and use the well-supported and competitive word processing and DTP apps on the Mac. -- J.B. Nicholson-Owens (No NeXTmail please)
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: TAR Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1993 02:59:43 -0400 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Chemistry, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Distribution: world Message-ID: <0gdHrTW00WB98Z9JR0@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <2836q6$51c@digifix.digifix.com> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 26-Sep-93 Re: TAR by Scott Anguish@digifix.co > Uh Chuck... if he doesn't have tar, he probably doesn't have a > compiler, and for sure he will not be able to untar the gnu-tar that he > downloads. Then of course, if he doesn't have tar, he also probably > doesn't have gzip and .... well, I think you see where I am headed ! :-) All unix systems (that I know of, anyway) have tar. If he doesn't have tar, then he's almost certainly on an IBM PC system. The FTP site I listed has IBM PC binaries of many basic unix programs (specifically, gzip & tar - and *not* in the tar/compressed format), so he can get what he needs from there. -Chuck Charles William Swiger -- CMU...*crunch*! | 1. You can't fly. ------------------------------------------+ 2. Cars are always real, even AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | when they're not. Failing that: cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu | 3. Police are not your friends. NeXTmail: chuck@mon.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | 4. Fire burns.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jr@sade.ka.sub.org (Jochen Richter) Subject: Re: What is the market for daydream? References: <CDx86z.EIK@pdh.com> Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1993 07:44:05 GMT Organization: The home of the Pilhuhn Sender: news@pilhuhn.sub.org (Das Newssystem auf pilhuhn) Message-ID: <CDyAtI.9z0@pilhuhn.sub.org> In article <CDx86z.EIK@pdh.com> jfr@aspen.pdh.com (Jon F. Rosen) writes: > I think $795 is WAY too high for an almost-Mac-alike with some > serious deficiencies and no interoperability with the NeXT. Better > get a real Mac. > This machine does neither have a 68040, nor 12bit color, nor a big drive ... For any *serious* application (i.e. Photoshop etc.) it is just too slow. -- Jochen Richter Phone +49-721-696922 Zahringerstrasse 57 Fax +49-721-696988 D-76133 Karlsruhe e-mail: jr@sade.ka.sub.org Germany jr@resy.kfk.de (>50K)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: uunet!sci34hub!tybrin4!holli!me (Trey McClendon) Subject: Re: DATE (was Re: Thank you to all those who replied,...) Message-ID: <1993Sep26.033528.4611@holli.uucp> Sender: me@holli.uucp (My Account) Organization: TYBRIN Corporation -- Huntsville, AL References: <Sep.21.17.33.57.1993.20397@gandalf.rutgers.edu> Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1993 03:35:28 GMT In article <Sep.21.17.33.57.1993.20397@gandalf.rutgers.edu> kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) writes: > spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) writes: > > >I use Date I end up thinking how much I'd like to have Pencil-Me-In. > >If only its price wasn't so high... (even at the recently announced > >bundle price with SBook, its far outside my reach for that class of > >application). > Ditto! I remember when SBook was going for 50bux edu. I wanted to get it, but when I tried they changed the price to something too high in my opinion (for that catagory of app). That 250 bundle deal is still too high. 100 bux for the both and I'd be all over that package, ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Dittos here, too. but until then I'll just use my watch and notepad. But I'll keep waiting...Eventually there will be a sale or some one selling their copy etc. and I'll suck both SBook and Pencil Me In up because they are great products. Hopefully w > > e'll get some more NeXTSTEP users and the margins on NS programs will come down. > > later, John Trey -- Trey McClendon, Madison, AL
From: t89djo@albireo (David Jonsson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Boot to DOS from a second hard disk? Date: 26 Sep 1993 11:21:14 GMT Organization: Uppsala University Message-ID: <283tva$odd@corax.udac.uu.se> References: <27ia1i$857@menudo.uh.edu> qiu@tree.egr.uh.edu (Feng Qiu) writes: : : My system is a 486/DX2 66MHz with a 525 M hard disk loaded with : NeXTStep3.1. I have a second hard disk bootable for DOS and Windows but : without NeXTStep partition. My question is how can you boot to the second : hard disk to DOS? Now in order to run DOS(I have no SoftPC) I have to : disconnect the hard disk for NeXTStep and set it at master mode then : reboot. Shortly after reboot where you normally type <return> or sd()mach_kernel you can type the n:th partition of the m:th IDE drive hd(n,m)Mach_kernel or similar if you want to boot from a SCSI drive. David -- David Jonsson Voice&Fax +46-18-24 51 52 P.O Box 353 Postal giro 499 40 54-7 S-751 06 UPPSALA Internet E-mail t89djo@tdb.uu.se SWEDEN
From: t89djo@albireo (David Jonsson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Use the Developer from CD Date: 26 Sep 1993 11:29:40 GMT Organization: Uppsala University Message-ID: <283uf4$odd@corax.udac.uu.se> How do I use the Developer from the 3.1 CD instead of installing it on my HD? It is a big waste of HD space to install the Developer and it is only slightly slower to run from a CD. The files are on the CD so I guess they are usable. Do I have to make the CD unmountable to use the Developer? David -- David Jonsson Voice&Fax +46-18-24 51 52 P.O Box 353 Postal giro 499 40 54-7 S-751 06 UPPSALA Internet E-mail t89djo@tdb.uu.se SWEDEN
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore) Subject: Intouch vs SBook (was Re: DATE) Message-ID: <CDyr7x.1IA@genoa.com> Sender: alex@genoa.com (Alex Blakemore) Organization: Genoa Software Systems References: <2836go$510@digifix.digifix.com> Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1993 13:38:20 GMT sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) writes: > You should look at InTouch! Its on the archives as a demo, and it has > all that SBook has and then some. And edu price is $50! I had a quick look too, and was also impressed, but its not completely fair to say it has _all_ that SBook has (more accurate to say _most_) as far as I could tell, it doesnt have SBook's logging or address book printing features. (it doesnt have SBook's price either) You're right. it does have several features that SBook lacks, but there are at least some areas where SBook comes out ahead too. I suppose it depends which features are most important to you. lets hear it for competition ! -- Alex Blakemore alex@cs.umd.edu NeXT mail accepted
From: Pop Tart Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Changing recycler icons Date: 26 Sep 1993 16:52:42 GMT Organization: Allegheny College Message-ID: <284hcq$36a@ftp.alleg.edu> Being new to the NeXT I was wondering if there was any way to change the icons of your recycler without using SuperHack.app? It does really screwy things to my account. Perhaps someone knows a better way to change the icons without messing up the account. Thanks for any info anyone may be able to provide. -- ///////////////////////////////\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ "Virtue is like a rich stone, best plain set." - Francis Bacon "If the dream is won, though everything is lost, We will pay the price, but we will not count the cost..." -Rush \\\\ Jeremy Bussard <-> C.J. <-> bussarj@alleg.EDU ////
From: Pop Tart Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Changing recycler icons Date: 26 Sep 1993 16:52:58 GMT Organization: Allegheny College Message-ID: <284hda$36b@ftp.alleg.edu> Being new to the NeXT I was wondering if there was any way to change the icons of your recycler without using SuperHack.app? It does really screwy things to my account. Perhaps someone knows a better way to change the icons without messing up the account. Thanks for any info anyone may be able to provide. -- ///////////////////////////////\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ "Virtue is like a rich stone, best plain set." - Francis Bacon "If the dream is won, though everything is lost, We will pay the price, but we will not count the cost..." -Rush \\\\ Jeremy Bussard <-> C.J. <-> bussarj@alleg.EDU ////
From: Pop Tart Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Changing icons of the recycler Date: 26 Sep 1993 16:59:47 GMT Organization: Allegheny College Message-ID: <284hq3$3c1@ftp.alleg.edu> Is there any way to change the recycler icons without running SuperHack? It (SuperHack) does very screwy things to my account and I would like to find another way even if it involves a little more work. Any info would be greatly appreciated! -- ///////////////////////////////\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ "Virtue is like a rich stone, best plain set." - Francis Bacon "If the dream is won, though everything is lost, We will pay the price, but we will not count the cost..." -Rush \\\\ Jeremy Bussard <-> C.J. <-> bussarj@alleg.EDU ////
From: nagler@wat2213.ucr.edu (jonathan nagler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NewsGrazer Configuration Date: 26 Sep 1993 20:23:52 GMT Organization: University of California, Riverside Message-ID: <284too$cdl@galaxy.ucr.edu> References: <1993Sep23.180717.22742@midway.uchicago.edu> & Karas writes > Hello-- > > Do any of you know what files/directories contain user-based configuration > information for NewsGrazer? > I second this request. I seem to kill newsgrazer everytime I try to read comp.sys.next.hardware. Pretty bad timing given that I'd like to buy a machine soon. -jonathan nagler
From: nagler@wat2213.ucr.edu (jonathan nagler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NewsGrazer Configuration Date: 26 Sep 1993 20:24:01 GMT Organization: University of California, Riverside Message-ID: <284tp1$cdn@galaxy.ucr.edu> References: <1993Sep23.180717.22742@midway.uchicago.edu> & Karas writes > Do any of you know what files/directories contain user-based configuration > information for NewsGrazer? > I second this request. I seem to kill newsgrazer everytime I try to read comp.sys.next.hardware. Pretty bad timing given that I'd like to buy a machine soon. -jonathan nagler
From: jhs3478@tamsun.tamu.edu (Jeffery H. Stephens) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Problems w/ Executor (version 2.2g) package Date: 26 Sep 1993 16:27:57 -0500 Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station Distribution: usa Message-ID: <2851gt$t24@tamsun.tamu.edu> After downloading the package from sonata, Installer couldn't install it because it said it couldn't find the size of the folder (any folder) in which I wanted to install the program. Any similar problems? -jeff
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dsiebert@icaen.uiowa.edu (Doug Siebert) Subject: Can I use Hypercard stacks on a NeXT? Sender: news@news.uiowa.edu (News) Message-ID: <1993Sep26.215005.4724@news.uiowa.edu> Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1993 21:50:05 GMT Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA Can I do this? Is there a NeXT app that'll read Hypercard stacks, even one that is buggy and barely works? I haven't tried Executor, I'm guessing it is not targeted at being able to do this, though. But if there isn't anything designed to do this I'll have to give Executor a shot. Its strange the things I never knew I'd miss going from a Mac to a NeXT :-) Note I just want to be able to read them and navigate them in some form. I don't want to do any programming of them or "run" any of the complicated ones that do really oddball things like FTP or newsreading. -- Doug Siebert dsiebert@isca.uiowa.edu "Had this been an actual emergency, we would have fled in terror, and you would not have been informed." --Someone more clever than I
From: marcus@ursula.ee.pdx.edu (Marcus Daniels) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: wanted: multithreaded NeXT librarian Date: 26 Sep 1993 15:32:08 -0700 Message-ID: <285598$puk@ursula.ee.pdx.edu> Summary: Librarian peeve I'm sick of waiting for documents to open/format with NeXT librarian. It doesn't seem like it would be to hard to have librarian text objects open in a seperate thread. I could probably think of other apps this applies to, but librarian is the most annoying.
From: gmk@pegasos.ccsr.uiuc.edu (Gottfried Mayer-Kress) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Sound conversion AIF (SGI) to snd ( NeXT) ? Date: 26 Sep 1993 23:33:03 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <2858rf$8jq@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> I used GISO on my NeXT cube to convert those sound files. It doesn't run under 3.1 Does anyone know how to fix that or some other methods to do the format conversion from aif to snd? Thanks, -- Gottfried Mayer-Kress Center for Complex Systems Research, Department of Physics 3025 Beckman Institute, 405 N Mathews, Urbana, Il 61801 gmk@pegasos.ccsr.uiuc.edu (NeXT-Mail) gmk@goshawk.lanl.gov, gmk@santafe.edu (217)-244-5877 (voice/fax modem),x8371(fax), x1994 (msg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mark@xexos.com (Mark Chamberlain) Subject: WAIS - stripped version? Message-ID: <1993Sep26.225522.12814@xexos.com> Sender: news@xexos.com Organization: Xexos, Ltd (London) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1993 22:55:22 GMT I seem to recall that the version of WAIS on purdue/orst etc is actually a non-stripped binary totalling some 1.9Mb. Would some kind person who has US access and already downloaded this monster, strip the binary (it was uploaded un-stripped) and NeXTMail it to me, or submit a new version? -- Mark Chamberlain +44 71 237 4535 Xexos Ltd fax +44 71 231 0844 London mark@xexos.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: pclark@is.com (Pete Clark) Subject: Re: wanted: multithreaded NeXT librarian Message-ID: <CDzK48.15C@is.com> Sender: pclark@is.com (Pete Clark) Organization: Integrity Solutions, Inc. References: <285598$puk@ursula.ee.pdx.edu> Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1993 00:02:32 GMT In article <285598$puk@ursula.ee.pdx.edu> marcus@ursula.ee.pdx.edu (Marcus Daniels) writes: > I'm sick of waiting for documents to open/format with NeXT librarian. > It doesn't seem like it would be to hard to have librarian text > objects open in a seperate thread. Appkit classes are traditionally considered thread unsafe. I'd bet that the Text class is more so than most others. Hopefully, this will be at least considered when the Text class is rewritten for 4.0, but making things thread-safe adds overhead. Another issue to remember about background threads is that they still take up cpu time. If it takes 8 seconds to format that nroff man page before it displays, it'll still take 8 seconds before you see it whether it's in one thread or two. Best, Pete C -- ********************************************************************* Pete Clark - Software Engineer | You know that way that Integrity Solutions, Inc. | you always are? pclark@is.com NeXTMail preferred | Don't be that way.
From: kerry@totara.cs.waikato.ac.nz (Kerry Guise) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Sound conversion AIF (SGI) to snd ( NeXT) ? Date: 27 Sep 1993 02:00:47 GMT Organization: The University of Waikato Message-ID: <285hgf$ufb@thebes.cc.waikato.ac.nz> References: <2858rf$8jq@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Keywords: GISO 3.1 sox In article <2858rf$8jq@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> gmk@pegasos.ccsr.uiuc.edu (Gottfried Mayer-Kress) writes: > I used GISO on my NeXT cube to convert those sound files. > It doesn't run under 3.1 > Does anyone know how to fix that or some other methods to do the format > conversion from aif to snd? You could try using sox, the program bundled inside GISO.app. That should build and run OK (although I'm not in a position to prove that). Kerry Guise University of Waikato
From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: wanted: multithreaded NeXT librarian Date: 27 Sep 93 02:02:38 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <jeffo.749095358@uiuc.edu> References: <285598$puk@ursula.ee.pdx.edu> <CDzK48.15C@is.com> Pete Clark writes: > Another issue to remember about background threads is that they still >take up cpu time. True, but I would rather spend that time doing more than one thing at once. In the Digital Librarian example, this could be formatting the nroff man page plus some other activity inside DL. Therefore, I too would prefer the multithreaded approach. -- J.B. Nicholson-Owens (No NeXTmail please)
From: tjhendry@mcs.drexel.edu (Jonathan Hendry) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: wanted: multithreaded NeXT librarian Message-ID: <1993Sep27.014837.12796@netnews.noc.drexel.edu> Date: 27 Sep 93 01:48:37 GMT References: <285598$puk@ursula.ee.pdx.edu> Sender: news@netnews.noc.drexel.edu Organization: Drexel University, Dept. of Math. and Comp. Sci. Marcus Daniels (marcus@ursula.ee.pdx.edu) wrote: : I'm sick of waiting for documents to open/format with NeXT librarian. : It doesn't seem like it would be to hard to have librarian text : objects open in a seperate thread. : I could probably think of other apps this applies to, but librarian is : the most annoying. Well, you could just have Edit open them. You lose some of the perks of having Librarian open them, but it's faster. - Jon
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) Subject: Re: Can I use Hypercard stacks on a NeXT? Message-ID: <CDzos6.LF4@utstat.toronto.edu> Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics References: <1993Sep26.215005.4724@news.uiowa.edu> Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1993 01:43:15 GMT In article <1993Sep26.215005.4724@news.uiowa.edu> dsiebert@icaen.uiowa.edu (Doug Siebert) writes: > >Can I do this? Is there a NeXT app that'll read Hypercard stacks, even one >that is buggy and barely works? I haven't tried Executor, I'm guessing it >is not targeted at being able to do this, though. But if there isn't anything >designed to do this I'll have to give Executor a shot. Get HyperSense. It will make you forget Hypercard, and it will read most HC stacks ( they get translated). HyperSense is from Thoughtful Software. It's a really neat product. They have educational pricing. You can get more info from info@thoughtful.com or mishelle@thoughtful.com . I really like this product. [ ] -- Philip McDunnough University of Toronto philip@utstat.toronto.edu [Where sheep may safely graze...]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: duane@shell.portal.com (Duane Takamine) Subject: Re: Attn: Steve Jobs What a Product Message-ID: <CDzv0x.G8z@unix.portal.com> Sender: news@unix.portal.com Organization: Portal Communications Company -- 408/973-9111 (voice) 408/973-8091 (data) References: <1993Sep25.001725.21998@indirect.com> Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1993 03:58:07 GMT In article <1993Sep25.001725.21998@indirect.com> action@indirect.com (Action) writes: > By writing this I am sure I will get some flames but.. > >I called the 800-TRY-NEXT number for info on the software offer at >$299.00. The people were very honest... More than I can say for NEXT. >Steve Jobs if you read this I hope you take what I have to say serious. > >The NEXT computer died, now the software is left. Ver 3.1 is defective ! >I would not expect to buy any product and have to pay for support. In >the case of NEXT software I was told that "Installation Support" was >available at the cost of $2.00 a minute on a 900 number. Installation >support is something that I have to pay for ? And NO Upgrade at the $299 >price. People, there are many operating systems in the Unix environment >that have FREE lifetime support. I suggest that you are "CLEARING OUT" >old, bugg ridden product in exchange for $$$. Steve, thats a great way >to head to Chapter 7 again. Most companies are charging for support these days, or are seriously considering it. 90% of calls to tech support are stuff that people could have looked up for in the manual. And I hope I don't shatter any of your precious illusions, but *everyone* pays for tech support. If you don;t pay by the minute, then they simply take the cost of all those banks of people and spread it out among all the copies of software. It is just that if you *don't* call, you pay anyway. Great idea, yeah? If you are going to refuse to buy any software that does not offer you free support, adios to you, you'll be completely out of the computer industry very soon. And If they offered upgrades on the $299 evaluation copy, what brain-damaged person is going to buy the retail copy? > >Why don't you keep the cost in a real area, have real people available >for support and charge $ 0 for it. Otherwise Novell, ESIX and others are >going to do in your product. I saw the waste that went on at the hardware >div. and I would not pay for you to continue to live the "GOOD LIFE" while >you sell a defective product. Software people are tired of all promises >and no performance. Jump at the chance to get ahead in the market. Fix >the product and take the DOS area on strong - Mickey Soft needs to have >a run for their money. If you continue on as you are,,I will wait and >buy my software at the sale ! >-- >Jay William I got a better idea. Why not give NS away for free, and pay the tech support staff with gravel. What waste did you see in the hardware division, anyway? Duane
From: william@pinoko.berkeley.edu (William E. Grosso) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Attn: Steve Jobs What a Product Date: 27 Sep 1993 04:11:02 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Message-ID: <285p4m$3f2@agate.berkeley.edu> References: <CDzv0x.G8z@unix.portal.com> > [response to obviously brain-damaged person deleted] > > What waste did you see in the hardware division, anyway? > There was a recent Forbes article on Borland's new "campus". The basic gist of the article was "lots of money spent on a non-product" But, they mentioned a few other companies that had, in Forbes' opinion, overindulged. One was NeXT. NeXT had a very extravagant HQ for a small company (including a floating staircase that SJ commisioned from I.M. Pei). BTW, does anybody else out there read Forbes ? I've noticed that Forbes is trying to increase their coverage of high-tech / computer companies. This seems to be translating into 1) ignorance (cf: their "hacker" stories). 2) Pro-MS bs (not just the usual MS hype. Forbes adds to it in some very bizarre ways). I subscribed because they seemed to know about "business" (read: traditional businesses and the stock market). But, given their willingness to write wrong / misguided computer articles, my confidence has been (badly) shaken. Bill Grosso
From: marcus@ursula.ee.pdx.edu (Marcus Daniels) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: wanted: multithreaded NeXT librarian Message-ID: <28691e$6b5@ursula.ee.pdx.edu> Date: 26 Sep 93 18:42:21 GMT Article-I.D.: ursula.28691e$6b5 References: <285598$puk@ursula.ee.pdx.edu> <CDzK48.15C@is.com> <jeffo.749095358@uiuc.edu> jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) writes: >Pete Clark writes: >> Another issue to remember about background threads is that they still >>take up cpu time. >True, but I would rather spend that time doing more than one thing at >once. In the Digital Librarian example, this could be formatting the >nroff man page plus some other activity inside DL. Therefore, I too >would prefer the multithreaded approach. Better the computer's cpu time than my cpu time :-). But, since they are threads, after all, they would take less. And realizing that I could just use Edit for most things (other than nroff), a multithread API of some kind would make it less likely that future apps like Librarian would exhibit this behavior. marcus
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: mark@cyantic.com (Mark T. Dornfeld) Subject: Sybase adaptor and costs on NeXTSTEP Organization: CYANTIC Systems Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1993 11:52:54 GMT Message-ID: <1993Sep27.115254.10264@cyantic.com> I'd like to find out an approximate list price for Sybase running on a Sun SPARC 10 dual processor machine, but more importantly, I need to know whether there are addtional costs for NeXTSTEP clients running on Intel HW. Is the Sybase adaptor included in the User Package? Is the environment ready to run given an application is present? -- Mark T. Dornfeld, CYANTIC Systems Voice: (416) 234-9048 101 Subway Crescent Suite 2103 Facsimile: (416) 234-0477 Etobicoke, Ontario, M9B 6K4 CANADA Email: mark@cyantic.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: has NeXT unbundled multiple languages ? Message-ID: <1993Sep26.092128.2869@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <27vcjd$hsf@usenet.rpi.edu> Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1993 09:21:28 GMT In article <27vcjd$hsf@usenet.rpi.edu> gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) writes: ...munch... > > There has always been separate language versions of NeXTSTEP. > > In the past, what the difference has been is what language the > *printed* documentation comes in. While I love a computer that > can handle multiple languages, I really don't want to receive > paper copies of all the NeXT manuals printed out in all the > languages... > > I assume that's what this price list is refering to. > I can support this interpretation from my experience. The German NS 3.1 upgrade came with full international language packages. It's just that manuals (printed and Librarian docu) are available in English, French and German and you only get one printed version with your package. But there is only one CD for all. And if your disk can room it you can install all three language Librarian docu sets. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | NeXTmail welcome !!! # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy From: ashley@chaz.demon.co.uk Subject: NS/I and ISDN Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID: <CE0rB1.Ku4@demon.co.uk> Sender: news@demon.co.uk (Usenet Administration) Organization: Demon Internet Limited. Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1993 23:28:51 GMT Hi - I'm wondering if anybody has had any experience with NS Intel and ISDN. I've got a Intel NS machine at work, and i'd like to have one at home. Since I've got a spare 64k ISDN channel on a router already (at work), I'm thinking about getting NS for home, and linking home to the network at work via ISDN. 1) Is there any ISDN hardware that NSFIP supports? 2) " " ISDN software " " ? 3) Is there any hardware NSFIP will not work with? 4) Has anybody done this? Thanks for your help, Charles Ashley ashley@chaz.demon.co.uk
From: nevai@math.ohio-state.edu (Paul Nevai) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: gnus's time-1.5 on a black NeXT Cube with OS 3.1 - how to compile? Date: 27 Sep 1993 15:51:55 GMT Organization: Department of Mathematics, The Ohio State University Sender: Paul Nevai Message-ID: <28726r$dv3@mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu> Originator: nevai@ops.mps.ohio-state.edu I couldn't compile gnu's time-1.5 on my black NeXT Cube with OS 3.1. Can you help? Please respond by email. Thanks. Take care...Paul Paul Nevai nevai@math.ohio-state.edu Dept Math - Ohio State University 1-614-292-3317 (Office) Columbus, Ohio 43210-1174, U.S.A. 1-614-292-1479 (Math Dept Fax)
From: nevai@math.ohio-state.edu (Paul Nevai) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: gnus's gnuplot-3.4 on a black NeXT Cube with OS 3.1 - how to compile? Date: 27 Sep 1993 15:53:26 GMT Organization: Department of Mathematics, The Ohio State University Sender: Paul Nevai Message-ID: <28729m$e07@mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu> Originator: nevai@ops.mps.ohio-state.edu I couldn't compile gnu's gnuplot-3.4 on my black NeXT Cube with OS 3.1. Can you help? Please respond by email. Thanks. Take care...Paul Paul Nevai nevai@math.ohio-state.edu Dept Math - Ohio State University 1-614-292-3317 (Office) Columbus, Ohio 43210-1174, U.S.A. 1-614-292-1479 (Math Dept Fax)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc From: CCGREG@mizzou1.missouri.edu (Greg Johnson) Subject: Re: Changing icons of the recycler Message-ID: <16C569877.CCGREG@mizzou1.missouri.edu> Sender: news@mont.cs.missouri.edu Organization: University of Missouri References: <284hq3$3c1@ftp.alleg.edu> Date: Mon, 27 Sep 93 10:50:18 CDT In article <284hq3$3c1@ftp.alleg.edu> Pop Tart writes: > Is there any way to change the recycler icons... On 3.1, see /usr/lib/NextStep/WorkSpace.app/WM.app/trash*
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: verket@venice.sedd.trw.com (Paul Verket) Subject: Re: NewsGrazer Configuration Message-ID: <1993Sep27.164406.14126@venice.sedd.trw.com> Organization: TRW Systems Engineering & Development Division, Carson, CA References: <1993Sep23.180717.22742@midway.uchicago.edu> <284too$cdl@galaxy.ucr.edu> Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1993 16:44:06 GMT jonathan nagler (nagler@wat2213.ucr.edu) wrote: : & Karas writes : > Hello-- : > : > Do any of you know what files/directories contain user-based configuration : > information for NewsGrazer? : > : I second this request. I seem to kill newsgrazer everytime I try : to read comp.sys.next.hardware. Pretty bad timing given that I'd : like to buy a machine soon. NewsGrazer (and most other NeXT programs) don't have configuration files like those found under X or MS-Windows. Instead, they log their information to a per-user database. This database can be accessed with the dread, dwrite and dremove programs. For example: "dread -o NewsGrazer" will list all the config items "owned" by NewsGrazer to stdout. Paul Verket (NeXTmail ok)
From: dean@thrall.com (Dean Johnson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Appsoft Image? Date: 27 Sep 1993 17:13:15 GMT Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <2876vb$2fv@nwfocus.wa.com> Can somebody that uses Image drop me a quick note letting me know if it's any good? I'm thinking about purchasing it, but would like some info first. Thanks for your time, Dean -- NeXTmail Please | More computer stuff! | dean@thrall.com | - My wife |
From: giddings@sadie.chem.wisc.edu (Michael Giddings) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NEED WORD PROCESSOR NOW! (attn: RightBrain or anyone!) Date: 27 Sep 1993 17:24:47 GMT Organization: Division of Information Technology Distribution: world Message-ID: <2877kv$kif@news.doit.wisc.edu> Keywords: word processor NEXTSTEP HAS A BIG VOID! We need a simple, straightforward word processor running on NS/I. On a 25MHZ intel machine, Executor just isn't fast enough (though it's fine on a Motorola box in many respects). Attention RightBrain - release ExactlyWrite, PLEASE! (or WordPerfect, release an UPDATED version of your software)! It has been promised for several months now, and every time we contact Rightbrain, it has been delayed. I just read in NeXTWORLD that Rightbrain is thinking up some "new" or "different" type of release scheme for it. Great, but please do it soon! There is a market for a real word processor here. Even if there are only 75,000 NeXTSTEP users, I'm sure a significant portion of those would like an inexpensive, straightforward, and SUPPORTED word processor. Normal users just aren't going to buy an OS without a decent word processor. And if they don't buy the OS, then that means even less third party sales in the future. Michael Giddings
From: brunkhorst@mayo.edu (Geoff Brunkhorst) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NEED WORD PROCESSOR NOW! (attn: RightBrain or anyone!) Date: 27 Sep 1993 17:44:42 GMT Organization: Mayo Foundation Distribution: world Message-ID: <2878qa$l2@fermat.mayo.edu> References: <2877kv$kif@news.doit.wisc.edu> In article <2877kv$kif@news.doit.wisc.edu> giddings@sadie.chem.wisc.edu (Michael Giddings) writes: > NEXTSTEP HAS A BIG VOID! > > We need a simple, straightforward word processor running on NS/I. On a 25MHZ > intel machine, Executor just isn't fast enough (though it's fine on a Motorola > box in many respects). > > Attention RightBrain - release ExactlyWrite, PLEASE! (or WordPerfect, release > an UPDATED version of your software)! It has been promised for several months > now, and every time we contact Rightbrain, it has been delayed. > [...] > Michael Giddings What on the WP/NSI release requires an upgrade? I'm curious to know if you are complaining for the same reasons I am? (no 5.1 document support) - Geoff ----------------------------------------------------------------- Geoffrey Brunkhorst brunkhorst@Mayo.edu Research Computing Facility, Guggenheim 10 (507) 284-1805 Mayo Foundation, Rochester MN, 55905, USA fax (507) 284-5231
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: AppSoft Image Date: 27 Sep 1993 17:54:47 GMT Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office Message-ID: <2879d7$2br@news.mic.ucla.edu> Not too much of a surprise that AppSoft essentially went under. However, now that they are selling Image for $99, I was wondering if it was worth it. Is it stable? How does it compare to other (educationally-priced) painting programs? Does it come as "fat" software? Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu Asst Prof of Finance iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu AGSM at UCLA
From: disc@vector.intercon.com (David Casti) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: showcurs Date: 27 Sep 1993 19:33:02 GMT Organization: InterCon Systems Corporation, Herndon, VA, USA Message-ID: <287f5f$t0b@news.intercon.com> Hi, I'm looking for the "showcurs utility" which will redisplay my Next cursor after X exits. The utility is referred to in the MouseX help files, but I can't find it on cs.orst.edu... Please advise, David.
From: disc@vector.intercon.com (David Casti) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: utree? Date: 27 Sep 1993 19:34:08 GMT Organization: InterCon Systems Corporation, Herndon, VA, USA Message-ID: <287f7g$t0b@news.intercon.com> Hi, Has anyone managed to compile utree successfully on their NeXT? I couldn't get it to compile under either 3.0 or 3.1. Thanks, David.
From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NEED WORD PROCESSOR NOW! (attn: RightBrain or anyone!) Date: 27 Sep 93 20:01:38 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <jeffo.749160098@uiuc.edu> References: <2877kv$kif@news.doit.wisc.edu> Keywords: word processor Michael Giddings writes: >We need a simple, straightforward word processor running on NS/I. I think all of NS (not just NS/I) could benefit from a well-done word processor. I also think NS has been aching for one since the first cubes came out. WriteNow is a cute toy, but definately not what I consider competitive. I realize the political climate at WP Corp. is not conducive to allowing the WP/NS programmers do what they'd like to do (probably making WP/NS the flagship product in terms of features for the money), but aside from WP/NS, you have to spend a lot of money to get something competitive with Microsoft Word. >Attention RightBrain - release ExactlyWrite, PLEASE! ExactlyWrite and Pages are the only two word processing/DTP products for NS that have any chance of being regularly supported for some time to come. From what I've heard, WP Corp. is just dying to cut off NS, unfortunately. I too wish both of these products would come out before long. >(or WordPerfect, release an UPDATED version of your software)! I don't know if you've had the problems I did, but last I tried importing files from WP51 was troublesome. >Normal users just aren't going to buy an OS without a decent word processor. I totally agree with this, but more and more I get the feeling that NS simply isn't for end-users, it's for developers. If you don't want to make your own word processor, don't bother considering NS. It's such a shame to see an interface and OS that (in my view) looks like it was built for word processing and DTP apps. I can't imagine something more conducive to letting people easily access other applications' features (like looking up words in Webster [which could also use an update, btw] and all the bazillions of things you can do with TickleServices). Such built-in support of RTF and Postscript, a unified imaging model for more accurate WYSIWYG is hard to come by as well. It's a shame that there are no apps ready to take advantage of all this and give Word Perfect and MS Word a run for the money (or at least make NS a platform worth serious consideration for competitive word processing and DTP work). -- J.B. Nicholson-Owens (No NeXTmail please)
From: js@balu.hnv.icem.de (Juergen Sell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Mail Search app ? Date: 27 Sep 1993 12:40:33 GMT Organization: ICEM Systems Message-ID: <286n01$rl@balu.hnv.icem.de> Hi, I am looking for a decent way to search in my various mboxes for keywords. Mail.app only seems to allow for searching in the titles of the current mbox. Any known apps? I did try MailSearchBeta.app but it crashes on startup all the time. Thanks, Juergen -- _ _ Juergen Sell E-Mail juergen.sell@icem.de ' | (_ Icem Systems ( NeXTMail welcome ) ,| _) Deisterstr. 18 Fax ++49-511-440617 (_| BRD 30449 Hannover Fon ++49-511-440688
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Quick Guide to the comp.sys.next.* newsgroups Date: 27 Sep 1993 16:26:40 -0400 Organization: Next Announcements Message-ID: <287i9t$dof@digifix.digifix.com> The current menagerie: comp.sys.next.advocacy This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. comp.sys.next.announce Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. comp.sys.next.bugs A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well. comp.sys.next.hardware Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. comp.sys.next.marketplace NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. comp.sys.next.misc For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! comp.sys.next.programmer Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. comp.sys.next.software This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. comp.sys.next.sysadmin Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. related Newsgroups comp.soft-sys.nextstep Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. comp.lang.objective-c Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. comp.object Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Written by: Eric P. Scott eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU Minor editing: Scott Anguish Additions from: Greg Anderson (Greg_Anderson@afs.com) and Michael Pizolato (Michael_Pizolato@afs.com)
From: joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu (Joe Panico) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: 8bit color driver for S3-805 graphics card Message-ID: <150137@netnews.upenn.edu> Date: 27 Sep 93 20:15:42 GMT Sender: news@netnews.upenn.edu Organization: Dept. of Neuroscience, U. of Pennsylvania Hi, I'm considering buying a DECpc 466 to run NSI. The machine would have the S3-805 video card, and the Hardware compatability guide says that some driver is needed to support 8bit color on this card. Is the S3 driver available? Does it really work? If so, where do I get it? Any help much appreciated. Joe Panico joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: klett@sunrayce.solar.umn.edu (James P. Klett) Subject: .sig for NeXT Mail.app?? Message-ID: <CE19H8.Iv8@news2.cis.umn.edu> Sender: news@news2.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1993 21:58:53 GMT How can I set up a .sig file for the mail app?? A file called .sig in the user root dir dosn't work. And, if you know the answer to this one, then how about using the same sig for newsgrazer???? Thanks -- _/_/_/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ | | | Programmer James P. Klett | | klett@sunrayce.solar.umn.edu | | | \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
From: Olav Anderson Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: French dictionary Date: 27 Sep 1993 22:12:03 GMT Organization: The University of British Columbia Distribution: world Message-ID: <287ofj$rv5@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca> Hi All, Is there a French Dictionary available? ___________________________________________________ B.Olav Anderson Autodidact NeXTSTEP CyberSurfer e-mail olav@emerson.physics.ubc.ca NeXT Mail? Of course! "I know of no more encouraging fact than the unquestionable ability of man to elevate his life by a conscious endeavor." H.D.Thoreau
From: Olav Anderson Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: French dictionary Date: 27 Sep 1993 22:12:31 GMT Organization: The University of British Columbia Distribution: world Message-ID: <287ogf$rv6@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca> Hi All, Is there a French Dictionary available? ___________________________________________________ B.Olav Anderson Autodidact NeXTSTEP CyberSurfer e-mail olav@emerson.physics.ubc.ca NeXT Mail? Of course! "I know of no more encouraging fact than the unquestionable ability of man to elevate his life by a conscious endeavor." H.D.Thoreau
From: Olav Anderson Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: French dictionary Date: 27 Sep 1993 22:32:45 GMT Organization: The University of British Columbia Distribution: world Message-ID: <287pmd$s22@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca> Hi All, Is there a French Dictionary available? ___________________________________________________ B.Olav Anderson Autodidact NeXTSTEP CyberSurfer e-mail olav@emerson.physics.ubc.ca NeXT Mail? Of course! "I know of no more encouraging fact than the unquestionable ability of man to elevate his life by a conscious endeavor." H.D.Thoreau
From: Olav Anderson Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: french dictionary Date: 27 Sep 1993 22:34:21 GMT Organization: The University of British Columbia Distribution: world Message-ID: <287ppd$s26@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca> Hi All, Is there a French Dictionary available? ___________________________________________________ B.Olav Anderson Autodidact NeXTSTEP CyberSurfer e-mail olav@emerson.physics.ubc.ca NeXT Mail? Of course! "I know of no more encouraging fact than the unquestionable ability of man to elevate his life by a conscious endeavor." H.D.Thoreau
From: annard@theborg.stack.urc.tue.nl (Annard Brouwer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Can I use Hypercard stacks on a NeXT? Date: 26 Sep 1993 23:34:37 GMT Organization: the Borg Distribution: world Message-ID: <2858ud$q8@theborg.stack.urc.tue.nl> References: <1993Sep26.215005.4724@news.uiowa.edu> In article <1993Sep26.215005.4724@news.uiowa.edu> dsiebert@icaen.uiowa.edu (Doug Siebert) writes: > > Can I do this? Is there a NeXT app that'll read Hypercard stacks, even one > that is buggy and barely works? I haven't tried Executor, I'm guessing it > is not targeted at being able to do this, though. But if there isn't anything > designed to do this I'll have to give Executor a shot. > I have seen a demonstration of such a program on either the Educational CD-ROM or the 3.0 DemoCD, forgotten the name though :-(( Can anyone with direct access to these CD-ROMs verify this? Annard -- Annard Brouwer annard@stack.urc.tue.nl (NeXTmail appreciated) People? You can forget it.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bauer@galilei.lbm.mw.tu-muenchen.de (Sebastian Bauer) Subject: Adobe Illustrator Documents are not opened from Workspace Message-ID: <1993Sep28.091400.3307@news.lrz-muenchen.de> Sender: news@news.lrz-muenchen.de (Mr. News) Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1993 09:14:00 GMT Hi, On my NeXTstation with Adobe Illustrator Version 3.0.1 there seems to be no way to open .ai-files automatically from the Workspace by double-clicking on them. Within the Workspace-inspector-panel the only tool that shows up for .ai-files is Edit.app. And obviously the icon of ai-files is the one of simple text-files. I had installed Illustrator in a directory "/2.Harddisk/LocalApps" which was linked to "/LocalApps" (and which I once have put into the application search-path). I also tried to have Illustrator physically in "/NextApps" and in "~/Apps". Nothing helped! All the other applications in "/2.Harddisk/LocalApps", "/NextApps" and "~/Apps" are doing as they are supposed to. Thanks for any help. Sebastian ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Sebastian Bauer, e-mail <bauer@lbm.mw.tu-muenchen.de> (NeXTmail welcome) Institute B for Mechanics (Prof. F. Pfeiffer) Technical University Munich, Germany -------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bauer@galilei.lbm.mw.tu-muenchen.de (Sebastian Bauer) Subject: Re: Adobe Illustrator Documents are not opened from Workspace Message-ID: <1993Sep28.092224.3552@news.lrz-muenchen.de> Sender: news@news.lrz-muenchen.de (Mr. News) Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany) References: <1993Sep28.091400.3307@news.lrz-muenchen.de> Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1993 09:22:24 GMT Sorry for the double posting, but I found another, maybe helpful, symptom. In article <1993Sep28.091400.3307@news.lrz-muenchen.de> bauer@galilei.lbm.mw.tu-muenchen.de (Sebastian Bauer) writes: > Hi, > > On my NeXTstation with Adobe Illustrator Version 3.0.1 there seems to be > no way to open .ai-files automatically from the Workspace by > double-clicking on them. Within the Workspace-inspector-panel the only > tool that shows up for .ai-files is Edit.app. And obviously the icon of > ai-files is the one of simple text-files. > I had installed Illustrator in a directory "/2.Harddisk/LocalApps" which > was linked to "/LocalApps" (and which I once have put into the > application search-path). I also tried to have Illustrator physically in > "/NextApps" and in "~/Apps". Nothing helped! All the other applications > in "/2.Harddisk/LocalApps", "/NextApps" and "~/Apps" are doing as they > are supposed to. > > Thanks for any help. One symptom that I noticed is that every time I start Adobe Illustrator there appears the following message on the console: Sep 28 10:15:52 galilei Adobe_Illustrator[234]: Assertion failed: loadNIBSection: could not find data Sebastian ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Sebastian Bauer, e-mail <bauer@lbm.mw.tu-muenchen.de> (NeXTmail welcome) Institute B for Mechanics (Prof. F. Pfeiffer) Technical University Munich, Germany -------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bauer@galilei.lbm.mw.tu-muenchen.de (Sebastian Bauer) Subject: Mouse-X doesn't work after upgrading to NS 3.1 Message-ID: <1993Sep28.092912.3740@news.lrz-muenchen.de> Sender: news@news.lrz-muenchen.de (Mr. News) Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1993 09:29:12 GMT Hi, After upgrading to NS 3.1 (black hardware), Mouse-X doesn't work any more. About 18 s after starting it from Xfe (and seeing the mouse-pointer spinning), Xfe quits. The console shows the following message: Fatal server error: no screens found giving up. xinit: Connection refused (errno 61): unable to connect to X server xinit: No such process (errno 3): Server error. Thanks for any help. Sebastian ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Sebastian Bauer, e-mail <bauer@lbm.mw.tu-muenchen.de> (NeXTmail welcome) Institute B for Mechanics (Prof. F. Pfeiffer) Technical University Munich, Germany -------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (Axel Habermann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mouse-X doesn't work after upgrading to NS 3.1 Date: 28 Sep 1993 11:52:09 GMT Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <2898h9$667@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> References: <1993Sep28.092912.3740@news.lrz-muenchen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit bauer@galilei.lbm.mw.tu-muenchen.de (Sebastian Bauer) writes: >Hi, >After upgrading to NS 3.1 (black hardware), Mouse-X doesn't work any >more. About 18 s after starting it from Xfe (and seeing the mouse-pointer >spinning), Xfe quits. The console shows the following message: >Fatal server error: >no screens found >giving up. >xinit: Connection refused (errno 61): unable to connect to X server >xinit: No such process (errno 3): Server error. I'm running mouseX under 3.1 without problems - wait, you have to set read/write permissions on /dev/vid0 for everyone, else something like the message you mentioned will appear on the console. I made a startup-script with setuid-root to set the rights accordingly, because the problem is, that the permissions get reset everytime you reboot. If you don't want to run your xterms under root, you have to do something like this: startXfe: (this one without setuid-root) --------- #!/bin/sh chvid0 open Apps/Xfe.app chvid0: (this one with setuid-root) ------ #!/bin/sh chmod ugo+rw /dev/vid0 Hope that helps. Axel P.S.: Don't try to enable setuid-root on xinit or XNext or something. I tried it and found that after a clean startup it was not possible to get back into X after leaving it with CMD-CMD-DEL. >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Sebastian Bauer, e-mail <bauer@lbm.mw.tu-muenchen.de> (NeXTmail welcome) >Institute B for Mechanics (Prof. F. Pfeiffer) >Technical University Munich, Germany >------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Axel Habermann \\|// FaxFon: +49 30 4543046 Fehmarnerstr. 4 )o o( eMail: kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de 13353 Berlin (Wedding) \ | / "Wenn Du nicht weisst Germany \~/ was du tust, mach's mit Eleganz!"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: gjudd@hackatg.demon.co.uk (Graham Judd) Subject: Re: .sig for NeXT Mail.app?? Message-ID: <1993Sep28.114241.1133@hackatg.demon.co.uk> Sender: gjudd@hackatg.demon.co.uk Organization: Hackwood Service Company References: <CEDMAN.93Sep27224546@capitalist.princeton.edu> Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1993 11:42:41 GMT In article <CEDMAN.93Sep27224546@capitalist.princeton.edu> cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes: > In article <CE19H8.Iv8@news2.cis.umn.edu> klett@sunrayce.solar.umn.edu (James P. Klett) writes: > How can I set up a .sig file for the mail app?? A file called .sig > in the user root dir dosn't work. > And, if you know the answer to this one, then how about using the > same sig for newsgrazer???? > > RTFFAQ. > > Carl Edman Carl, why not just answer the question instead of being discourteous. -- Graham Judd gjudd@hackatg.demon.co.uk [NeXTMail OK] Hackwood Service Co gjudd@rattle.attmail.com [NeXTMail OK] 59-67 Gresham St gjudd@cix.compulink.co.uk [No NeXTMail] London EC2V 7JA +44 71 606 7080 voice England +44 71 606 5113 fax -- Graham Judd gjudd@hackatg.demon.co.uk [NeXTMail OK] Hackwood Service Co gjudd@rattle.attmail.com [NeXTMail OK] 59-67 Gresham St gjudd@cix.compulink.co.uk [No NeXTMail] London
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: steveg@bytech.demon.co.uk (Steve Gailey) Subject: Re: 8bit color driver for S3-805 graphics card Message-ID: <CE2G37.Crs@demon.co.uk> Sender: news@demon.co.uk (Usenet Administration) Organization: Demon Internet Limited. References: <150137@netnews.upenn.edu> Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1993 13:28:19 GMT In article <150137@netnews.upenn.edu> joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu (Joe Panico) writes: > > Hi, > > > I'm considering buying a DECpc 466 to run NSI. The machine would have > the S3-805 video card, and the Hardware compatability guide says that > some driver is needed to support 8bit color on this card. Is the S3 > driver available? Does it really work? If so, where do I get it? > Any help much appreciated. > > Joe Panico > joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu > I Think you will find that it is only 8 Bit grey Scale steveg@bytech.demon.co.uk
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NEED WORD PROCESSOR NOW! (attn: RightBrain or anyone!) Keywords: word processor Message-ID: <Sep.28.09.37.43.1993.16180@gandalf.rutgers.edu> Date: 28 Sep 93 13:37:43 GMT References: <2877kv$kif@news.doit.wisc.edu> Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J. giddings@sadie.chem.wisc.edu (Michael Giddings) writes: >NEXTSTEP HAS A BIG VOID! >There is a market for a real word processor here. Even if there are only >75,000 NeXTSTEP users, I'm sure a significant portion of those would like an >inexpensive, straightforward, and SUPPORTED word processor. Which begs the question... Will NeXT roll WriteNow back into NeXT? Obviosly its unacceptable to have so LITTLE wordprocessing options, especially on the intel platforms... Later, John
From: dbora@ils.nwu.edu (Donald Bora) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Setting the resolution on a VGA monitor Date: 28 Sep 1993 14:07:14 GMT Organization: The Institute for the Learning Sciences Distribution: world Message-ID: <289gei$5uv@anaxagoras.ils.nwu.edu> OK! Since I received such awesome help on my last problem... the new one proves to be difficult. It is not really a problem just a preference. I would like to change the resolution on my monitor. I have installed NS/I with a VGA monitor. I have checked the manual for the monitor which proceeded to tell me about all of the different modes the current configuration (512k VRAM) would support. The manual then proceeded to tell me about how one would go about setting these different modes... DOS utilities. I have checked the NeXTStep documentation which I have and found nothing about changing resolution modes. Any clues? -*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* Donald F. Bora | | | The Institute for the Learning Sciences | | O | Northwestern University | (--|--) Evanston, Ill | | e-mail: dbora@ils.nwu.edu | / \ work: (708) 467-1972 | --------Be excellent to each other--------
From: lones@lones.mit.edu (Lones A. Smith) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: pkzip/pkunzip 2.04g for the NeXT anyone?? Date: 28 Sep 1993 14:37:35 GMT Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology Message-ID: <289i7f$ajj@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Hi, I really need the above utilty. Any specific help is much appreciated. Sincerely, Lones A. Smith Department of Economics, MIT E52-252C, Cambridge MA 02139 voice: (617) 253-0914 [fax: (617) 258-6915]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: hannes@elin-ekt.co.at (J.J.Deepwell) Subject: Sybase for NSI Message-ID: <1993Sep28.150555.437@elin-ekt.co.at> Keywords: sybase database NSI Sender: hannes@elin-ekt.co.at Organization: ELIN Energieanwendungen Ges.m.b.H. Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1993 15:05:55 GMT Has anyone heard about a intel version of Sybase? I heard, that Sybase refuses to create one. -- J.J.Deepwell hannes@elin-ekt.co.at NeXTmail ok! -- J.J.Deepwell hannes@elin-ekt.co.at NeXTmail ok!
From: bailey@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Bill Leeke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: telnet timeout over SLIP? Date: 28 Sep 1993 16:32:46 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL USA Message-ID: <289ove$57t@news.acns.nwu.edu> When I initiate a SLIP connection with (telnet hostname) I invariably get a timeout from telnet. Is telnet getting this from a TCL script or is there a default timeout for telnet? (couldn't find any timeout for telnet in man pgs) Thanks, Bill -- "Beaten paths are for beaten men." bailey@casbah.acns.nwu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: pkzip/pkunzip 2.04g for the NeXT anyone?? Message-ID: <1993Sep28.165518.119251@embl-heidelberg.de> From: tuparev@EMBL-Heidelberg.DE (Georg Tuparev) Date: 28 Sep 93 16:55:17 +0100 References: <289i7f$ajj@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> In article <289i7f$ajj@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> writes: > Hi, > I really need the above utilty. Any specific help is much appreciated. > If you can wait till end of october, one bulgarian software house will start selling a package containing all kind of zip, pkzip .... stuff. (I think ~$40 for edu people) -- georg --
From: basiji@stein3.u.washington.edu (David Basiji) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: telnet timeout over SLIP? Date: 28 Sep 1993 17:13:03 GMT Organization: University of Washington Message-ID: <289rav$1an@news.u.washington.edu> References: <289ove$57t@news.acns.nwu.edu> bailey@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Bill Leeke) writes: >When I initiate a SLIP connection with (telnet hostname) I invariably get a >timeout from telnet. Is telnet getting this from a TCL script or is there a >default timeout for telnet? (couldn't find any timeout for telnet in man >pgs) I believe the stock timeout period is sixty seconds. I usually initiate the SLIP connection before telnetting or, when it times out, I just give the telnet command again. David Basiji UW Bioengineering
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) Subject: Re: Adobe Illustrator Documents are not opened from Workspace Message-ID: <1993Sep28.170742.28721@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: Stanford University References: <1993Sep28.091400.3307@news.lrz-muenchen.de> Date: Tue, 28 Sep 93 17:07:42 GMT Sebastian Bauer writes > On my NeXTstation with Adobe Illustrator Version 3.0.1 there > seems to be no way to open .ai-files automatically from the > Workspace by double-clicking on them. Do the .ai documents appear as illustrator icons? Sounds like you might have a permissions problem. Check that Illustrator is set with execute permissions for the users who are trying to use it. -- - Stefano Pagiola Food Research Institute, Stanford University spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged) spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) Subject: Re: NEED WORD PROCESSOR NOW! (attn: RightBrain or anyone!) Message-ID: <1993Sep28.172221.29351@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: Stanford University References: <jeffo.749160098@uiuc.edu> Date: Tue, 28 Sep 93 17:22:21 GMT J.B. Nicholson-Owens writes > > Normal users just aren't going to buy an OS without a > > decent word processor. > > I totally agree with this, but more and more I get the feeling > that NS simply isn't for end-users, it's for developers. If you > don't want to make your own word processor, don't bother > considering NS. NS _is_ for end-users, for precisely all the reasons you state. Its NeXT that seems to not realize it. > It's such a shame to see an interface and OS that (in my view) > looks like it was built for word processing and DTP apps. I > can't imagine something more conducive to letting people easily > access other applications' features (like looking up words in > Webster [which could also use an update, btw] and all the > bazillions of things you can do with TickleServices). Such > built-in support of RTF and Postscript, a unified imaging model > for more accurate WYSIWYG is hard to come by as well. Amen. > It's a shame that there are no apps ready to take advantage of > all this and give Word Perfect and MS Word a run for the money > (or at least make NS a platform worth serious consideration for > competitive word processing and DTP work). Here I differ. I'd rather be running WordPerfect under NeXTSTEP, with all its limitations, than any other word processor in any other environment. The word processing may be better elsewhere, but producing a document is much more than just formatting words, and all the other platforms are really poor at providing these ancillary services. I would suggest that with PasteUp available now and Pages around the corner, all the good image processing and illustration apps available, and cool apps like GoldLeaf's scanner software, NS already is very competitive in DTP. But its obvious that NeXT is not going to realize this until they're hit on the head with it. How such technically brilliant people with so much vision about where computers are going can be so obtuse about what they have is a little beyond me. But why wait for NeXT? Maybe the companies that are active in the horizontal DTP market could get together and start pushing on their own. RightBrain, Pages, GoldLeaf, LightHouse? NeXT isn't going to be telling potential buyers how good your products are and how well they work under NS to do DTP. If you don't want to go the way of AppSoft, you'd better get going. -- - Stefano Pagiola Food Research Institute, Stanford University spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged) spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) Subject: Re: pkzip/pkunzip 2.04g for the NeXT anyone?? Message-ID: <1993Sep28.172443.29595@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: Stanford University References: <289i7f$ajj@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Date: Tue, 28 Sep 93 17:24:43 GMT Lones A. Smith writes > I really need the above utilty. Any specific help is much > appreciated. Are these DOS .zip files? Opener opens them just fine. Don't know about making them, though. -- - Stefano Pagiola Food Research Institute, Stanford University spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged) spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
From: disc@vector.intercon.com (David Casti) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: showcurs Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Date: 28 Sep 1993 17:33:10 GMT Organization: InterCon Systems Corporation, Herndon, VA, USA Message-ID: <289sgm$d30@news.intercon.com> References: <287f5f$t0b@news.intercon.com> David Casti (disc@vector.intercon.com) wrote: : I'm looking for the "showcurs utility" which will redisplay my Next cursor : after X exits. The utility is referred to in the MouseX help files, but I : can't find it on cs.orst.edu... A little brain-damage there... I should have thought to look in the X distribution itself... Thanks to those who responded. David.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: ringger@cs.rochester.edu Subject: Re: gnus's gnuplot-3.4 on a black NeXT Cube with OS 3.1 - how to compile? In-Reply-To: Your message of "27 Sep 93 15:53:26 GMT." Message-ID: <9309281713.AA05330@slate.cs.rochester.edu> Sender: ringger@cs.rochester.edu (Eric Ringger) Organization: University of Rochester Computer Science Dept Date: Tue, 28 Sep 93 13:13:29 -0400 >I couldn't compile gnu's gnuplot-3.4 on my black NeXT Cube with OS 3.1. Can >you help? Please respond by email. Thanks. Take care...Paul Hi, Paul. Have you seen the NeXT front-end to gnuplot-3.4? If not, check it out via anonymous ftp on cs.orst.edu. I think you'll find it under pub/next/binaries/plotting. It not only gives you a NeXT front-end, but allows you to run it from the command-line or via scripts as you might have done on other systems. I think it's one of the better NeXT custom apps I've seen. --Eric --- Eric K. Ringger ringger@cs.rochester.edu Dept. of Computer Science University of Rochester Phone: (716) 275-0922 Rochester NY 14627-0226 FAX: (716) 461-2018 ||| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |||
From: disc@vector.intercon.com (David Casti) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: ftpconversions? Date: 28 Sep 1993 17:54:54 GMT Organization: InterCon Systems Corporation, Herndon, VA, USA Message-ID: <289tpe$d30@news.intercon.com> Hi, I'm using the wu-ftpd ftp server, and I can't get any of the ftp conversions to work. If I try to get ABOUT.VECTOR.Z for example, I get the message "Opening BINARY mode data connection for /bin/compress" and then a file of 0 bytes is downloaded. An answer to either of these questions would be great: 1. How can I fix wu-ftpd so the compress-on-the-fly stuff works? or 2. Can someone point me to some other NeXT ftpd that will do the conversions? Thanks, David.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: john@wpa.com (John Bartley) Subject: Re: NEED WORD PROCESSOR NOW! (attn: RightBrain or anyone!) Message-ID: <CE2wwr.519@nimno.wpa.com> Sender: john@nimno.wpa.com (John Bartley) Organization: Workgroup Productivity Associates References: <2877kv$kif@news.doit.wisc.edu> Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1993 19:31:39 GMT In article <2877kv$kif@news.doit.wisc.edu> giddings@sadie.chem.wisc.edu (Michael Giddings) writes: > Attention RightBrain - release ExactlyWrite, PLEASE! (or WordPerfect, release > an UPDATED version of your software)! It has been promised for several months > now, and every time we contact Rightbrain, it has been delayed. > > I just read in NeXTWORLD that Rightbrain is thinking up some "new" or > "different" type of release scheme for it. Great, but please do it soon! I hope RightBrain sticks around and releases ExactlyWrite. If they don't, are there any other current or planned word processing apps that can read and write WriteNow files? I hadn't really worried to much about fat binary compatibility for WriteNow until I realized that there wasn't ever going to be one. I now vaguely remember discussion on the net a while back, but it obviously didn't stick in my mind. The only alternative I know of is using OpenSesame to run WriteNow on genuine black hardware. Are there any other options that would allow .wn documents to stay .wn documents?
From: mycroft@monolith.utexas.edu (Alex Currier) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: .sig for NeXT Mail.app?? Date: 28 Sep 1993 20:45:33 GMT Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas Message-ID: <28a7pd$4fo@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> References: <1993Sep28.114241.1133@hackatg.demon.co.uk> In article <1993Sep28.114241.1133@hackatg.demon.co.uk> gjudd@hackatg.demon.co.uk (Graham Judd) writes: > > How can I set up a .sig file for the mail app?? A file called .sig > > in the user root dir dosn't work. > > And, if you know the answer to this one, then how about using the > > same sig for newsgrazer???? > > RTFFAQ. > Why not just answer the question instead of being discourteous. I agree. I may be way off base here but I consider the FAQ to be a concentration of knowlege and experience which is designed to give people quick access to common questions and as such, a great help in using and administering a NeXT. I do not consider the existence of a FAQ an excuse to be rude to someone. Maybe said person was unaware of the FAQ or forgot about it. Maybe they tried the FAQ already and didn't find an acceptable answer. Maybe even they're just too lazy to look at the FAQ for themselves, for whatever reason. In any case the very least you could do is politely mention that their problem is addressed in the FAQ and tell them where to find the FAQ or offer to send them a copy. At best you could email them with a good attempt at an answer and develop a helpful relationship with them (Hi Jim, how's the SLIP going?). Your assuming they are just too stupid or lazy to help themselves and responding with rudeness and expletives (yes, it's still rude say Read The Fucking FAQ even though the words themselves aren't spelled out) is really uncalled for. If you can't answer a polite question with something at least civil then don't say anything at all. -- ======================================================================== Alex Currier | History is made at night... mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu | Character is what you are in the dark. ========================================================================
From: mycroft@monolith.utexas.edu (Alex Currier) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,rec.music.makers.synth Subject: NeXTSTEP Music Kit Demo Apps? Date: 28 Sep 1993 21:04:53 GMT Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas Message-ID: <28a8tl$580@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> Hello. When I bought my cube it came with NS 3.0 pre installed. Now I find out there are several Music application demos which came with NS 2.X. Would it be possible for me to get copies of those apps and if so where should I look for them? I already consulted the FAQ and it said nothing about these demo apps. I am NeXTmail capable so if any kind soul would like to send them to me, specifically one which allows you to record and play back MIDI sequences, I would be eternally grateful. Thank you. -- ======================================================================== Alex Currier | History is made at night... mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu | Character is what you are in the dark. ========================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller) Subject: Re: What is the market for daydream? References: <1993Sep26.085536.1326@proximus.north.de> Sender: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller) Organization: Gerhard Moeller, German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg. Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1993 21:43:13 GMT Message-ID: <1993Sep27.214313.4203@proximus.north.de> In article <27u3hq$c2g@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) writes: > I don't understand who daydream is aimed at. Reading the ad in the > latest NeXTworld, I see that it: Simple. ME. "Give me a telephone number and I'd call them." (Do you recognize this ;-)? ) I would pay about 600 US$ (I am a student, so this is a lot of money for me) for it (if it runs well and the ROMS are included...) as I have to do a lot of work at university on Macs. I would prefer doing that work at home... > * Runs System 7.1 out of the box (good) This has to work. > * Runs "virtually" every Mac-compatible app. ("virtually" is right > from their ad) Well, what means "virtually"... Doesn't it use the ROMS? > * requires black NeXT hardware (I didn't realize there was any market > for making anything aimed at only black NeXT hardware owners) As far as I understand it needs the DSP. But as far as I know there are vendors working on DSP cards for white h/w. > * Converts your black NeXT machine to a Mac. (doesn't run concurrently > with NS?) I was told that you can choos between starting the NeXT as a NeXT or as a "Quadra" (isn't it nice: cube<->quadra...) If you need something that runs inside NEXTSTEP, try Executor, ARDI. It runs really good but is of course slower than a quadra and not 100% compatible. > Unfortunately, you cannot (according to an article in NeXTworld): > > * use a modem (you could on a real mac) I hope that this will be fixed in furure versions. (I need access to the serial ports as I have a DeskJet as printer and want to use some comm apps that only run on Macs.) > * read 800KB diskettes (you could on a real mac - aren't quite a few > Mac vendors shipping 800KB formatted diskettes?) It is not possible to read 800K floppies for h/w reasons. The old Macdrive is able to vary the speed. Most vendors now ship their software on 1.4 disks. Anyhow, if you buy a program, I bet _EVERY_ vendor will copy it for you on a 1.4 disk. If he/she doesn't -- change your dealer. > * print to a NeXT laser printer (if the Mac unit takes over the NeXT > hardware turning it into a Mac, I guess I wouldn't expect this to > work, nor would I expect any interaction between NS apps and Mac > apps). The ability to print is important. But maybe there is a workarount? > I don't get why folks wouldn't simply get a real Mac and system 7.1, > running in color (I get the impression running this Mac gadget won't > make your NeXT a color Mac), multiprocess Mac and NS apps (running the > Mac right next to their NS machine would allow for absolutely no CPU > contention, no chance that one Mac process would screw up any NS > process) and know that a well-known company--Apple is behind their > product for the length of the warranty. There might even be problems > getting Mac vendors to support you if you run their Mac app on your > daydream Mac. 2 reasons: (1) daydream has to be significantly cheaper than a Mac and (2) I need some space on my desk for writing letters by hand or reading books... > If a Mac emulator must be purchased, it might actually be cheaper to > get a small Amiga + Amax (a Mac emulator much like daydream). Last > time I looked, Amax was quite a bit under the advertised price for > daydream, but that was months ago, so things may have changed. What is the pricing for daydream? Gerhard. -- +---------------------------< principiis obsta! >---------------------------+ N Gerhard Moeller, Teichstr. 12, 26122 Oldenburg (FRG) [*: 02/21/1968] N e Private: gemoe@proximus.north.de Phone (voice): +49-441-75520 e X Uni: Gerhard.Moeller@arbi.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE NeXTmail X T Z-Net: Gerhard.Moeller@uniol.zer encouraged! T +-> NoGeNUG - Northern German NeXT User Group: NoGeNUG@proximus.north.DE <-+
From: csmith@blackplague.gmu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: GUI Tar App? Date: 28 Sep 1993 22:06:56 GMT Organization: The Gnomes of Zurich (shhh!) Distribution: world Message-ID: <28aci1$fsd@news.intercon.com> Is there anything out there public domain/freeware/shareware/etc that is a gui to tar? just wondering. I've looked on the most common sites and not found anything. Thanks for any help. -- Christian Smith aka Blackplague PGP Public Key available by finger or request.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) Subject: Re: GUI Tar App? Message-ID: <1993Sep28.224252.12163@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: Stanford University References: <28aci1$fsd@news.intercon.com> Date: Tue, 28 Sep 93 22:42:52 GMT csmith@blackplague.gmu.edu writes > Is there anything out there public domain/freeware/shareware/etc > that is a gui to tar? just wondering. I've looked on the most > common sites and not found anything. For untarring, you already have a GUI: its called NeXTSTEP. Call up the contents inspector panel in Workspace (cmd-2) and hit uncompress. -- - Stefano Pagiola Food Research Institute, Stanford University spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged) spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
From: gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NEED WORD PROCESSOR NOW! (attn: RightBrain or anyone!) Date: 28 Sep 1993 23:20:25 GMT Organization: University of Maryland, College Park Message-ID: <28agrp$nlt@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> References: <jeffo.749160098@uiuc.edu> <1993Sep28.172221.29351@leland.stanford.edu> >the other platforms are really poor at providing these ancillary >services. I would suggest that with PasteUp available now and Pages >around the corner, all the good image processing and illustration >apps available, and cool apps like GoldLeaf's scanner software, NS >already is very competitive in DTP. > >Stefano Pagiola >Food Research Institute, Stanford University Am I alone in liking PasteUp but finding it largely unusable? I mean to say that for one or two page layouts, it's marvelous, but as soon as the text gets much longer (I'm talking about a 5-20 page paper, not a book) things are maddeningly slow and/or unpredictable. I LIKE it and would pay for the (hopefully timely!) upgrades. I can't wait to see PasteUp running smoothly! If this strikes you all as wrong, let me know what I might be doing wrong with PasteUp. I have 32mb in this NSTC and running only that app is still sloooow. Robert de Lucca Johns Hopkins University
From: annard@theborg.stack.urc.tue.nl (Annard Brouwer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Appsoft Image? Date: 28 Sep 1993 20:35:45 GMT Organization: the Borg Distribution: world Message-ID: <28a771$b4@theborg.stack.urc.tue.nl> References: <2876vb$2fv@nwfocus.wa.com> In article <2876vb$2fv@nwfocus.wa.com> dean@thrall.com (Dean Johnson) writes: > > Can somebody that uses Image drop me a quick note letting me know if it's any > good? I'm thinking about purchasing it, but would like some info first. > Since another person also asked for an opinion, I'll give mine now in public. I cursed and hated the program a lot today (I was playing with the demo version). It is way to slow with "real" scans unless you have a terrible amount of RAM and only with icon-sized stuff was it rather fast. If it sells for 99$ it might be worth it but I wouldn't have bought it for the full price. Remember this is just my experience from today and I only wanted to see if I could edit a photo-scan and make it into a little tiff for email. I haven't used most features of the program. (Note in the end I used Grab amd IconBuilder can you image that?) Tooldlepip, Annard -- Annard Brouwer annard@stack.urc.tue.nl (NeXTmail appreciated) People? You can forget it.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: ctm@ardi.com Subject: Re: What is the market for daydream? Message-ID: <CE35EE.6A4@cobra.cs.unm.edu> Sender: news@cobra.cs.unm.edu Organization: ARDI References: <1993Sep26.085536.1326@proximus.north.de> <1993Sep27.214313.4203@proximus.north.de> Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1993 22:35:05 GMT Please do not read this as an attempt to sell Executor over DayDream. If DayDream works as claims and you want compatibility with almost all Mac programs now and you have black hardware, and the price is right, use DayDream. However, as the founder of ARDI, I would like to clear up a couple points. In article <1993Sep27.214313.4203@proximus.north.de> gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller) writes: >In article <27u3hq$c2g@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. >Nicholson-Owens) writes: ... >As far as I understand it needs the DSP. But as far as I know there >are vendors working on DSP cards for white h/w. ... As far as I know, DayDream uses the 68040 that is present in black hardware but is notably absent in white hardware. Of course it *is* possible to write a synthetic CPU (we know; we've done it), but I don't think they've ever claimed to have done that. > >> * Converts your black NeXT machine to a Mac. (doesn't run concurrently >> with NS?) > >I was told that you can choos between starting the NeXT as a NeXT or >as a "Quadra" (isn't it nice: cube<->quadra...) If you need something >that runs inside NEXTSTEP, try Executor, ARDI. It runs really good but >is of course slower than a quadra and not 100% compatible. The not 100% compatible is an *understatement*. We sell Executor primarily to people who want to run Word and Excel. We'll have more compatibility in the future, but of late we've been sidetracked with our Intel releases. The "of course" here is probably not deserved. There are four components of speed that are appropriate to consider when comparing Executor to DayDream: DayDream Executor Integer Computation native '040 native '040 Floating Point Computation native '040* native '040* System Calls In General Mac ROMs ARDI's ROM rewrite Screen Updates direct access through display PostScript For computation in general, DayDream and Executor are going to run at the same rate. There may be a little difference in the floating point numbers because Apple doesn't hand the numbers directly over to the FPU, but those numbers should be comparable. Now when programs make Operating System calls, we start to see a divergence. Apple has hand tweaked their assembly to run quickly on "680x0"s; we have not. On the other hand, we assume you have a bunch of memory and Apple does not. Still, usually, Apple's ROMs are quicker than our ROM-alikes, but in a compute intensive application, this component is totally irrelevant. When run on black hardware, doing compute intensive things, DayDream and Executor are going to run exactly the same speed. Now the last component is interesting, and right now (besides the compatibility issue) DayDream has us beat. The trouble is Display PostScript is not particularly efficient for emulators. We hacked in an "accelerated graphics" feature over here, but as of yet it still doesn't work on Turbo machines (ick). NeXT has some routines that allow emulators to bypass Display PostScript. We've even been told that we'll get use of said routines, in fact, we were told that *months* ago... When we get that, then our screen updates will be pretty close to DayDream's. DayDream will continue to have an edge because the way NeXT's routines work, we'll still have to do our work in an offscreen bitmap and ship the differences across, but believe me, that really won't slow us down much. Summary: As it stands now compute intensive tasks are going to run just as quickly under Executor as under DayDream. When NeXT gets around to getting us the "interceptor" routines, Executor will wind up being very close to DayDream in performance, *but NOT compatibility*. >What is the pricing for daydream? The NeXTWORLD ad says $795 through December. Those Mac ROMs don't come cheaply. Executor/NEXTSTEP is pretty pricey these days ($249 SRP Educational, $499 SRP Commercial). I don't blame people if they hold off until we lower the price again. Our July/August sale was very successful. For the next month we'll be concentrating on the launch of Executor/DOS, then we'll reevaluate our NeXT channels and go from there. By the time the HP port is in beta hands, we should have Executor/X-Windows running on a Dec Alpha. The Alpha port is making us rework some stuff to nicely handle 64 bit pointers. Luckily, we only have to do that once, so Executor/NEXTSTEP/HP should be a no brainer. Thanks for your interest. --Cliff ctm@ardi.com
From: slv0y@cc.usu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Image gone...other alternatives?? Message-ID: <1993Sep28.161847.1199@cc.usu.edu> Date: 28 Sep 93 16:18:47 MDT Organization: Utah State University Ok, now that Appsoft is no more, what alternatives to Image are there? Even though Image was rather buggy, it still had some neat editing features. Are there any good applications out there for large image editing, and processing? I have looked at TIFFany, and it does image processing, but it lacks the tools to be an image editor...any others? John Z. slv0y@cc.usu.edu
From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: What is the market for daydream? Date: 29 Sep 93 01:11:32 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <jeffo.749265092@uiuc.edu> References: <1993Sep26.085536.1326@proximus.north.de> <1993Sep27.214313.4203@proximus.north.de> This thread seemed to basically say that unless you have an exceptionally well-equipped NeXTdimension, getting a real Mac might be the best choice. Personally, I think the added advantage of doing real multitasking of different OS apps where one OS won't harm or disturb the other is significant enough to make the case for getting a real Mac. Gerhard Moeller writes: >I would pay about 600 US$ (I am a student, so this is a lot of money >for me) [..] Unfortunately, you'll need another US$200 to buy it even at the special introductory price that expires Dec. 31, 1993. After that, you'll probably need more money. So far, I think you're better off getting a real Mac. There was no mention of any educational pricing, however, perhaps that's within your price range. You might want to take a second look at Executor, if you can live without color, sound or System 7. >Well, what means "virtually"... Doesn't it use the ROMS? I don't know exactly what it means in the context of this ad, but I do know that even on Amax, an older and more widely-used Mac emulator for the Amiga using Mac ROMS, not absolutely everything works even using the supported Mac Systems. That is, not every System 7 app runs as well as it would on a comprable real Mac running the same System 7. For true compatibility with supported Systems, it's been my experience that you should get a real Mac. >As far as I understand it needs the DSP. But as far as I know there >are vendors working on DSP cards for white h/w. I think there are DSPs for Intel machines, but none are supported for NS. Then again, if daydream takes over the whole NS box, thereby making no use of NS whatsoever, perhaps there's a chance this could be ported for use with some combination of DSP card and 68k-family chip (I think the use of the Motorola 68k-family chip is important since that's what real Macs currently use, but I don't have any technical reason to back that up, only that all the ROM-based emulators I know of are on machines that use Motorola 68k CPUs). >I was told that you can choos between starting the NeXT as a NeXT or >as a "Quadra" (isn't it nice: cube<->quadra...) Well, that's a little misleading. Unless you attach a mono monitor to a Quadra, all Quadras are color machines. However, all NeXT hardware is not color and using daydream in color requires color NeXT hardware. Using a color monitor and b&w NeXT hardware won't give you a color daydream-ed Mac. So, depending on what hardware you attach to the daydream, you may or may not get Quadra-quality output. Also, just going by the ad in the latest NeXTWORLD magazine, it makes no reference to being Quadra-speed or Quadra-anything. In fact, only the minority of NeXT hardware has enough color to somewhat justify the purchase of daydream. Also, with some Macs (most?) you can attach two (more than two?) monitors and either copy the output from monitor to monitor or set up a virtual monitor or video wall. Only the NeXTdimension supports this arrangement, and there are the following items to consider: * Depending on where you plug the extra monitor(s) in on the dimension, you will get either a video-wall effect (virtual desktop) or copied output. * To get more than two monitors working in this arrangement, you need more than one dimension card in the cube. * It has not been said whether the daydream will work with multiple- monitor NeXTdimensions. >I hope that this will be fixed in furure versions. (I need access to the >serial ports as I have a DeskJet as printer and want to use some comm >apps that only run on Macs.) Someone posted (sorry, I didn't save the thread so I can't properly attribute any information) that the serial port and printing were going to be functional in the released daydream, despite the coverage to the contrary in NeXTWORLD (which may have been based on some really early beta daydream). >It is not possible to read 800K floppies for h/w reasons. The same thing was said of the Amiga Mac emulator, yet with Amax II (the latest Amax) you can read and write such diskettes with the standard Amiga disk drive (which is also a CLV drive). I'm not saying that the Amiga drive and the NeXT drive are the same, just that they're both CLV. >Anyhow, if you buy a program, I bet _EVERY_ vendor will >copy it for you on a 1.4 disk. If he/she doesn't -- change your dealer. It was said by someone else that 800k Mac disks are still quite common (in fact the Mac apps I recently purchased arrived on 800k diskettes). Also, it is simply not the case (even in the Mac market where there is good competition for most products) that it's so easy to change dealers and still get the same product with precisely the same functionality. You might have a very good reason for buying a particular app from a particular vendor and might not want to go with something else. It's also a hassle to have to send your product back to the vendor and/or wait for them to ship you a product on a particular diskette. >(1) daydream has to be significantly cheaper than a Mac Unfortunately, so far, it's not. According to what others have posted (and what I've found in my spare time) it's simply more money and hassle to go this route unless you have absolutely no need for DD-Mac diskettes (aka 400k and 800k diskettes) and you have a well-equipped NeXT machine (like a NeXTdimension). Finding ND's are rare enough, finding people who also want Mac app capability and have no need for reading and writing DD Mac disks is something I would guess to be so rare as to be virtually zero. Since you don't have standard Mac equipment from soup to nuts, you could be fighting an uphill battle with aforementioned issues (as well as application warranties which might explicitly state that their software is not to be used on emulators, not guaranteed to run on emulators or possibly both) all to avoid not having another box on your desk. >(2) I need some space on my desk for writing letters by hand or >reading books... I suggest getting a larger desk. I bought two inexpensive small cafeteria-style tables and when placed in an L-shaped arrangement they work excellently, leaving room for all my computer needs and my handwriting needs. They look great and fit perfectly into the corner of the office-size room where they currently reside. >What is the pricing for daydream? According to NeXTWORLD: Quix's advertisement says it's US$795 until December 31, 1993 and the article about the product on the next page says it will be "under [US]$1000" Perhaps a System-7 capable, color version of Executor will come along in enough time to satisfy your Mac-on-a-NeXT needs, but for now if you need is to run Mac apps, I can't see much reason not to purchase a real Mac. -- J.B. Nicholson-Owens (No NeXTmail please)
From: jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Joseph W Reiss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mouse-X doesn't work after upgrading to NS 3.1 Date: 29 Sep 1993 03:14:54 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <28auje$9uk@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> References: <1993Sep28.092912.3740@news.lrz-muenchen.de> Bauer@galilei.lbm.mw.tu-muenchen.de (Sebastian Bauer) wrote... >Hi, > >After upgrading to NS 3.1 (black hardware), Mouse-X doesn't work any >more. About 18 s after starting it from Xfe (and seeing the mouse-pointer >spinning), Xfe quits. The console shows the following message: > >Fatal server error: >no screens found >giving up. >xinit: Connection refused (errno 61): unable to connect to X server >xinit: No such process (errno 3): Server error. In a Terminal window, su to root, then try the following... chmod a+rw /dev/vid0 This should give the X server the ability to access the screen properly. I remember getting this problem myself when I copied the files to another system and tried to reinstall it without reading the docs (silly me, thinking that I know everything just from doing this once :-) As for where it mentions this in the docs, I really can't remember for the life of me, but it's in there somewhere. Joe -- __________ | NeXTMail accepted, but not preferred | |___) | """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" \_/OE | \EISS | I love emacs. But it has this one little problem... `---- | It thinks it's an operating system.
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: The FAQs Re: .sig for NeXT Mail.app?? Date: 28 Sep 1993 23:29:50 -0400 Organization: Digital Fix Development Distribution: world Message-ID: <28avfe$n5j@digifix.digifix.com> References: <28a7pd$4fo@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> Alex Currier writes > Maybe said person was unaware of the FAQ or forgot about it. Maybe they tried > the FAQ already and didn't find an acceptable answer. Maybe even they're just > too lazy to look at the FAQ for themselves, for whatever reason. In any case I maybe partially responsible here. I had made some changes to the weekly postings to point out that the FAQs where posted to comp.sys.next.announce, but it was pointed out to me today that that information still wasn't in there. I must have not saved the changes. It has been corrected, and I'm also going to add the information to my weekly summaries. -- - Scott Anguish - sanguish@digifix.com (NextMail) next-announce@digifix.com (comp.sys.next.announce submissions)
From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NEED WORD PROCESSOR NOW! (attn: RightBrain or anyone!) Date: 29 Sep 93 01:42:24 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <jeffo.749266944@uiuc.edu> References: <jeffo.749160098@uiuc.edu> <1993Sep28.172221.29351@leland.Stanford.EDU> Stefano Pagiola writes: >NS _is_ for end-users, for precisely all the reasons you state. Its >NeXT that seems to not realize it. I completely agree that NeXT doesn't realize that NS has end-user potential, but I am at a loss to see where NS fits in in some lucrative or potentially lucrative end-user markets like: video work (the Amiga Toaster seems to fit the bill for small-end video, SGI and professional hardware for producers who want to move up from the Toaster and have no budget constraints), music (the Amiga works quite well here [I used to work on a setup that had a large array of MIDI and various video equipment working well with the Music-X, Toaster and Bars and Pipes applications), desktop video (without something akin to QuickTime, I can't see any reason to spend money on NS for this. NS has high potential to be great here, but the Mac has QuickTime apps running and has had them for some time now), games (the number of games on other platforms is many times the number of games on NS) and even just to have a Unix box (a PC running a freely available Unix is far cheaper than NS). For database use, I see a few large databases that can handle many simultaneous users but are also priced so high they're well out of the range of any single end-user. The Mac continues to have small databases that (the more successful of which) can at least read other small database files. In word processor areas, what I've been told about WP/NS (the only big-name still-supported word processor for NS) is that WP Corp. is just itching to pull support for it and doesn't consider it a significant success. For more business-oriented markets there are similar (if not the same) apps running on other platforms as well. If NS is not doing so well with end-users, perhaps the end-users feel similarly? The kinds of apps I see coming out for NS seem to me to cater to programmers (mainly), people interested in sharing data (e-mail apps, scheduling apps) and sysadmins (there's even a port of NetInfo for Sun machines, I believe). To me, none of these markets seem lucrative or targeted at what end-users do from day to day. All in all, I hope NS does well because I've got an NS machine, but I just can't get too excited about NS' future with the message of making custom apps. That doesn't even seem to me to fit in with the idea of using an object-oriented system that well (where the benefits come from sharing programming, not remaking something from scratch or near scratch because your business needs it). >Here I differ. I'd rather be running WordPerfect under NeXTSTEP, >with all its limitations, than any other word processor in any other >environment. I'm glad that you found something that works for you. I stand corrected that this is a much more subjective issue than I had previously thought. For me, the features present in the current batch of supported NS word processing and DTP apps just don't compare to what I can do on other platforms and make me feel like there's no good reason for sticking with NS to get this job done. Unfortunately for me, I've got an NS machine so I'm in a position where I'm using other hardware I don't own so that I can get what I need to do done. >all the other platforms are really poor at providing these ancillary >services. True, to a certain degree I too prefer the elements of NS that make integrating elements easier. I think this could be taken a step further, though. Integrating portions of documents is great and necessary, but being able to integrate entire documents or just plain save the investment made in another app would be great. In my opinion, this is something NS apps lack -- the ability to load other documents of the same ilk (for instance, MS Word loading and saving Word Perfect files and vice versa, in addition to the other apps that can load each other's data). If I want to keep my work which is currently mostly Frame and MS Word files, I require something that can load either (or preferably both) of those formats. However, none of the word processors I've seen for NS can reliably do that. I realize it's financially and programmatically tough to do this, but since the others can do it I think it's simply something that works against the collection of NS apps I've seen; something that makes me choose the competition over the NS apps. [I should note that I've been told it might be one of Pages' features to load Frame files, which I think would be wonderful since I could use Frame/Mac to load most of my MS Word files into Frame and save them in Frame format (I don't know if it can load the very latest output from MS Word/Mac)] >But why wait for NeXT? Maybe the companies that are active in the >horizontal DTP market could get together and start pushing on their >own. I think this is a fine idea. As you point out, NeXT isn't going to do it for them, and I'd like to add that I don't think there are enough totally satisfied NS users to do the work for them either. The more I hear NS developers talk about this though, I get the feeling advertising costs are really high and advertising budgets are quite low. As some constructive input for how this could be helped, I suggest comparing applications across platforms. This seems to me to be quite important (if not imperative) in wooing people to one's product. Giving them a reason not to go ahead with the Mac, Windows, OS/2 or DOS purchase is one of the items that I feel is needed. In order to do this, making your application work with their systems and work with their data is required, and this means being able to read formats other than the proprietary formats of the company that makes the application. For example, PasteUp has been said to be competitive with Quark, yet it doesn't read or write Quark format data. So, I wonder if this isn't something significant numbers of Quark users find forbidding about PasteUp? If I were faced with this decision, being told that my investment in Quark (with important Quark files) is going to have to be lost should I switch to PasteUp would seem pretty important to me. [When I mentioned this before, I was told that the users of PasteUp don't think this is a big deal, but I think they might not be the most beneficial users to ask. Instead of confirming this with the installed userbase of PasteUp, I suggest confirming it with those that aren't using PasteUp and mark this as a significant reason why they're not.] -- J.B. Nicholson-Owens (No NeXTmail please)
From: arrigo@cube.sublink.org (Arrigo Benedetti) Newsgroups: comp.text.tex,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Printing TeX document on a Linotronic 300 Message-ID: <1993Sep26.101857.333@cube.sublink.org> Date: 26 Sep 93 10:18:57 GMT Sender: arrigo@cube.sublink.org Organization: Arrigo Benedetti I need to print my thesis front page on a Linotype Linotronic 300 typesetter. I use CM bitmapped fonts, so I think that I have to specify the resolution in the print dialog box when printing from TeXview. I remember, from my Mac hacking in a previous life, that the Lino has two basic relution, 1270 dpi (?) and 2540 dpi (??). Is 1270 the number I have to type in the ``Custom resolution'' field? Thanks in advance for your help, -Arrigo -- Arrigo Benedetti e-mail: arrigo@cube.sublink.org (preferred) University of Bologna benedett@deis01.cineca.it Tel: (home) +39 59 224929 (office) +39 59 216688 (fax) +39 59 220727 - I WILL DESIGN CHIPS FOR FOOD! -
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) Subject: Re: NEED WORD PROCESSOR NOW! (attn: RightBrain or anyone!) Message-ID: <1993Sep29.043045.24137@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: Stanford University References: <28agrp$nlt@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> Date: Wed, 29 Sep 93 04:30:45 GMT L. Anathea Brooks writes > Am I alone in liking PasteUp but finding it largely > unusable? I mean to say that for one or two page > layouts, it's marvelous, but as soon as the text gets > much longer (I'm talking about a 5-20 page paper, not > a book) things are maddeningly slow and/or unpredictable. > I LIKE it and would pay for the (hopefully timely!) upgrades. I've only used the demo and had no problems with it. A bit of a learning curve, but otherwise easy to use. bear in mind it is a page layout program and is not geared to longish documents. It can do them, but as you say, you can tell it wasn't meant for that. As a page layout app is seems to be very good, though. -- - Stefano Pagiola Food Research Institute, Stanford University spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged) spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) Subject: Re: NEED WORD PROCESSOR NOW! (attn: RightBrain or anyone!) Message-ID: <1993Sep29.044410.24426@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: Stanford University References: <jeffo.749266944@uiuc.edu> Date: Wed, 29 Sep 93 04:44:10 GMT J.B. Nicholson-Owens writes > Stefano Pagiola writes: > > But why wait for NeXT? Maybe the companies that are active in > > the horizontal DTP market could get together and start pushing > > on their own. > > I think this is a fine idea. As you point out, NeXT isn't going > to do it for them, and I'd like to add that I don't think there > are enough totally satisfied NS users to do the work for them > either.... > > As some constructive input for how this could be helped, I suggest > comparing applications across platforms. This seems to me to be > quite important (if not imperative) in wooing people to one's > product. I'm not sure that's entirely the right approach. You're unlikely to make somebody change systems on the strength of one app, no matter how good. And many individual Mac or Windows apps are in fact quite good. What neither of these other platforms can offer is the degree of integration between many different apps that NeXT provides. That's why a joint approach would be best. Show people how they can scan in stuff with GoldLeaf's scanner, retouch it with Compose-In-Color, combine it with graphics drawn in Create or Virtuoso, drop them onto a PasteUp document, and then simultaneously send the whole shebang to film and fax it to Australia (using SBook or InTouch to dial the modem) in less time than the typical Windows app takes to refresh itself. > Giving them a reason not to go ahead with the Mac, > Windows, OS/2 or DOS purchase is one of the items that I feel is > needed. Absolutely. > In order to do this, making your application work with > their systems and work with their data is required, and this > means being able to read formats other than the proprietary > formats of the company that makes the application. Agreed entirely. By and large, I don't think NeXTSTEP does badly in this regard. reading and writing DOS and Mac disks. Reading and writing WP, Lotus, Excel files. Not a bad start. But certainly one would like to be able to convert existing files to whatever NeXTSTEP standard is chosen easily and painlessly. > For example, PasteUp has been said to be competitive with Quark, > yet it doesn't read or write Quark format data. Agreed 100%. You can't hope people will switch if it means leaving everything behind. I would not have switched if NeXT hadn't been able to read my DOS disks and my WP and Lotus files and had not had SoftPC to run the few DOS-based things I still needed. Even a kludgey solution is better than no solution. -- - Stefano Pagiola Food Research Institute, Stanford University spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged) spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) Subject: Re: .sig for NeXT Mail.app?? In-Reply-To: mycroft@monolith.utexas.edu's message of 28 Sep 1993 20:45:33 GMT To: mycroft@monolith.utexas.edu (Alex Currier) Message-ID: <CEDMAN.93Sep29000243@capitalist.princeton.edu> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University References: <1993Sep28.114241.1133@hackatg.demon.co.uk> <28a7pd$4fo@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1993 04:02:42 GMT In article <28a7pd$4fo@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> mycroft@monolith.utexas.edu (Alex Currier) writes: In article <1993Sep28.114241.1133@hackatg.demon.co.uk> gjudd@hackatg.demon.co.uk (Graham Judd) writes: > > How can I set up a .sig file for the mail app?? A file called .sig > > in the user root dir dosn't work. > > And, if you know the answer to this one, then how about using the > > same sig for newsgrazer???? > > RTFFAQ. > Why not just answer the question instead of being discourteous. I agree. I may be way off base here but I consider the FAQ to be a concentration of knowlege and experience which is designed to give people quick access to common questions and as such, a great help in using and administering a NeXT. I do not consider the existence of a FAQ an excuse to be rude to someone. I was not rude. Instead I helped the original poster by pointing him straight at the source for the answer to his problem. As for the broader question, FAQs were not created as generic sysadmin tools. As the very name suggests, they were created to reduce the huge amounts of bandwidth consumed in most technical groups by recurring questions the answers of which are well known. Explicitly answering questions listed in the FAQ defeats this purpose and is second in bad netiquette only to asking questions listed in the FAQ and less excusable as the answerer in general can not blame ignorance of the FAQ for his misbehaviour. I have to admit that in the past I have on more than one occasion been guilty of the later misdemeanour myself. However, in the future I do not intend to answer FAQs any more other than by the above acronym. I do encourage other posters to these newgroups to act in a similar manner. Maybe said person was unaware of the FAQ or forgot about it. Maybe they tried the FAQ already and didn't find an acceptable answer. Maybe even they're just too lazy to look at the FAQ for themselves, for whatever reason. Such behavior is unbearably inconsiderate. Only the fact that the size of the usenet is not instinctively apparent to some users makes it possible that otherwise reasonable people would even consider so behaving. If the mass of readers wasn't hidden by the illusion of a private conversation with a computer, people would not post questions to the usenet because they are too lazy to read a short document any more than they'd stop their cars in the middle of a busy bridge and take a nap. In any case the very least you could do is politely mention that their problem is addressed in the FAQ and tell them where to find the FAQ or offer to send them a copy. At best you could email them with a good attempt at an answer and develop a helpful relationship with them (Hi Jim, how's the SLIP going?). Your assuming they are just too stupid or lazy to help themselves and responding with rudeness and expletives (yes, it's still rude say Read The Fucking FAQ even though the words themselves aren't spelled out) is really uncalled for. I do not use such language either in person or on the internet. RTFFAQ means Read the Friendly FAQ if I use it. The obscenities are all yours. If you can't answer a polite question with something at least civil then don't say anything at all. This is an international newsgroup, not your dinner table. Much as politeness and generosity towards the minor imperfections of other human beings are necessary and desirable components in all relationships, there is a point at which it becomes unconscionable to ignore the costs. And the costs of questions like the above which are asked in these groups more than once a month are very real and very significant. First, there is the actual cost of transmission and storage of the original message (and possibly the repeated lengthy answers) to hundreds of thousands of computers worldwide. This has been variously estimated at up to several thousand dollars for a question like the above one. Second, and more importantly there is the opportunity cost accrued to up to several million readers of the message, many of which are highly skilled professionals whose time is valuable. Responding to such a frequently asked question with just a short pointer to the FAQ list helps reduce the amount of wasted bandwidth in two ways: Such a pointer generally is much shorter than a complete answer. And the mild embarrassment suffered the poster of the original question will encourage others to read the FAQ before posting. Carl Edman
From: smg@orb.com ("Samuel M. Goldberger") Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Compiling Archie--Help Date: 29 Sep 1993 05:27:18 GMT Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access Distribution: world Message-ID: <28b6bm$dqc@nntp.crl.com> I picked up the latest version of Archie from the Archives, and tried to install it, but apparently it requires files that live on a machine called "superch.udel.edu" in order to install. However, this machine apparently isn't accepting ftp connections, so I can't finish the installation of the package. Anyone have this already compiled that they could NeXT-Mail to me, or who can provide a pointer on doing it myself? Thanks... -- Samuel M. Goldberger/smg@orb.com Spherical Solutions 22 Miller Avenue, Suite A Mill Valley, CA 94941 415-380-0383--voice 415-380-0381--fax
From: mycroft@monolith.utexas.edu (Alex Currier) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: .sig for NeXT Mail.app?? Date: 29 Sep 1993 06:33:43 GMT Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas Message-ID: <28ba87$lj0@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> References: <CEDMAN.93Sep29000243@capitalist.princeton.edu> In article <CEDMAN.93Sep29000243@capitalist.princeton.edu> cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes: <munch> First off, this pleasant discussion has used up more bandwidth than answering the original question would have so in the interest of conservation neither of us should have said anything. My point is that all but the most flagrant abuses of bandwidth usually go along unnoticed with the day's traffic. I agree that the various FAQs reduce unnecessary net traffic to a degree but I honestly doubt that is their whole intent. I prefer to believe there is a spirit of those-who-know trying to help out those-who-don't. While you might adhere to the letter of netiquette (as you see it) I choose to follow the spirit. The FAQs serve their purposes to share knowlege, help people with their problems, and reduce net traffic quite admirably but the idea that no FAQ question should ever be answered again is going a bit too far. I agree this is arguable but what I feel is not arguable is that these questions should not be met with rudeness. In my opinion your single word (or acronym, if you will) response to the original question was in fact rude. Most everyone knows that the "F" in RTFM and RTFFAQ does *NOT* stand for "Friendly". As netwise as you appear to be you must have realized how your reply would be interpreted. I maintain that if your intent had been to assist the questioner rather than abuse him your reply should have contained helpful info about the FAQ, where it can be found, etc. Either that or, by your own logic of bandwidth preservation, you should have said nothing at all. I do not claim the net is my dinner plate. I am well aware of the scope of what we do here. What I do claim, however, is that this is much more than a global network. It is personal interaction. The machines and wires and countless bits mean nothing without the individuals who sit at the terminals. If you are too busy counting bits to remember that there are people out here who have problems to solve and feelings to protect then I feel you have been sitting at your terminal a bit too long. I can excuse "unbearable breaches of netiquette" now and then because we are, after all, only human. What I can't excuse is rudeness. Life is difficult enough without people being rude for no reason. To paraphrase Robert Heinlein, the beginning of a society's downfall can be marked by a drastic decline in politeness and consideration. When people starting being rude to each other, they're on the way out. I honestly don't see how you can talk about the "costs of politeness and generosity". My apologies to the rest of the world for having to wade through my venting. -- ======================================================================== Alex Currier | History is made at night... mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu | Character is what you are in the dark. ========================================================================
From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NEED WORD PROCESSOR NOW! (attn: RightBrain or anyone!) Date: 29 Sep 93 07:07:29 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <jeffo.749286449@owens.slip.uiuc.edu> References: <jeffo.749266944@uiuc.edu> <1993Sep29.044410.24426@leland.Stanford.EDU> Stefano Pagiola writes: >What neither of these other platforms can offer is the degree of >integration between many different apps that NeXT provides. That's >why a joint approach would be best. I think that's right on. If I could go back and change that article I wrote, I would, a joint approach is key. In fact, to show the power of the on-line data linking, one of the biggest advances about NeXTSTEP (to me) is the Services menu alone. I think that's such a great app linker, it could really make a good ad for NS, I think. Now that I'm getting into it more I'm finding that TickleServices just makes that menu shine (although now I've got so many Services if I turn them all on I'll have a menu that's too long for the screen) and saves me from having to use the terminal line for a lot of short Unix tasks. >Agreed 100%. You can't hope people will switch if it means leaving >everything behind. I would not have switched if NeXT hadn't been >able to read my DOS disks and my WP and Lotus files and had not had >SoftPC to run the few DOS-based things I still needed. That describes a situation I had quite recently. After I thought I was out of the DOS woods for a while, I had to get some old data from an MS Word document into Edit.app. Up comes SoftPC and the DOS disk reading NeXTSTEP provides. Perhaps some real life encounters would make for convincing NeXTSTEP ads? Maybe if NeXT gets out of the 'sell to the developer' mode... -- J.B. Nicholson-Owens (No NeXTmail please)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: ctm@ardi.com Subject: Re: What is the market for daydream? Message-ID: <CE3t0v.904@cobra.cs.unm.edu> Sender: news@cobra.cs.unm.edu Organization: ARDI References: <1993Sep26.085536.1326@proximus.north.de> <1993Sep27.214313.4203@proximus.north.de> <jeffo.749265092@uiuc.edu> Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1993 07:05:21 GMT In article <jeffo.749265092@uiuc.edu> jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) writes: ... >Perhaps a System-7 capable, color version of Executor will come along >in enough time to satisfy your Mac-on-a-NeXT needs, but for now if you >need is to run Mac apps, I can't see much reason not to purchase a >real Mac. Don't count on it. I mean this literally. Feel free to hope for it, we are certainly going to be working very hard on color and parts of System 7, but so far every prediction we've ever made has been off significantly. I truly believe that with DOS revenue helping us out that things will be different this time; I know a lot of you are rooting for us, but it's one thing to hope for something, it's another to actually make decisions based on speculation. If Executor doesn't cut it, but DayDream does and you can afford it, go with DayDream. Feel free to keep picking up Executor from the archives as we get back in the swing of getting more experimental releases out. See if Executor is right for you and consider buying it if it is, but I'm not going to make any more predictions until I see how well Executor/DOS sells. Right now it's looking like it will be a monster. --Cliff ctm@ardi.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller) Subject: Re: What is the market for daydream? -> Speed matters References: <CE35EE.6A4@cobra.cs.unm.edu> Sender: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller) Organization: Gerhard Moeller, German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg. Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1993 07:37:15 GMT Message-ID: <1993Sep29.073715.2601@proximus.north.de> In article <CE35EE.6A4@cobra.cs.unm.edu> ctm@ardi.com writes: [...] > In article <1993Sep27.214313.4203@proximus.north.de> gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller) writes: [...] >>that runs inside NEXTSTEP, try Executor, ARDI. It runs really good >>but is of course slower than a quadra and not 100% compatible. [...] > The "of course" here is probably not deserved. There are four components > of speed that are appropriate to consider when comparing Executor to DayDream: > > DayDream Executor > Integer Computation native '040 native '040 > Floating Point Computation native '040* native '040* > System Calls In General Mac ROMs ARDI's ROM rewrite > Screen Updates direct access through display PostScript That is true, but when I was talking about speed I meant the speed the USER sees. I tried Executor with Word 5.0 and _huge_ documents. (At that time I was editing a book with Word) The calculating things like searching and the like are amazingly _fast_ (And I mean fast.) That was the fun part. But not so funny was the screen output. And if you know Word you know that it is slow in paging by default. But with the slower output it was even worse. Then I run the benchmarks from Macintosh and the speed calculated there was indeed fantastic. Anyhow, there is a difference in the speed the user "sees" and the machine "has". Another point was for me that I needed (and now need to for the next book) to edit a lot of graphics. For one thing, Executor died when I was trying to edit a graphic inside Word. (ARDI, this is a bug! -- but I was seeing this in an old version of Executor...) And unfortunately it is not so easy to get the graphics from the Word document in another drawing program as MacDraw. Copy and Paste only works inside _one_ Executor window. But as Executor has no System 7 below it, you cannot run Word and MacDraw at the same time. Of course you can start 2 Executors, but copying in one instance and pasting in the other does not work. (ARDI, you can change that, I guess. Please do so! Executor would gain even more functionality!) After those tests I decided not to buy Executor for the moment. This is not so much because I did not like it -- in fact it's a great thing -- but more because of lack of money. (After all, I'm just a student and have about 300 US$ a month for living (after paying the rent for my room)) [...] > >What is the pricing for daydream? > > The NeXTWORLD ad says $795 through December. Those Mac ROMs don't > come cheaply. Is there an edu pricing available? Does this _include_ the Mac-Roms? > Executor/NEXTSTEP is pretty pricey these days ($249 SRP Educational, > $499 SRP Commercial). I don't blame people if they hold off until we > lower the price again. Our July/August sale was very successful. For > the next month we'll be concentrating on the launch of Executor/DOS, > then we'll reevaluate our NeXT channels and go from there. There are a few things in favour of Executor/ARDI: (1) The support seems to be outstanding marvellous, fantastic, tremendous, etc. (2) ARDI tells the truth - no fancy advertisings that make you believe more than tere is - WYRIWYG (What you read...) (3) It's still cheaper. ;-) > By the time the HP port is in beta hands, we should have > Executor/X-Windows running on a Dec Alpha. The Alpha port is > making us rework some stuff to nicely handle 64 bit pointers. > Luckily, we only have to do that once, so Executor/NEXTSTEP/HP > should be a no brainer. Good luck and good sellings to you. > Thanks for your interest. Thanks for your information! Gerhard. -- +---------------------------< principiis obsta! >---------------------------+ N Gerhard Moeller, Teichstr. 12, 26122 Oldenburg (FRG) [*: 02/21/1968] N e Private: gemoe@proximus.north.de Phone (voice): +49-441-75520 e X Uni: Gerhard.Moeller@arbi.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE NeXTmail X T Z-Net: Gerhard.Moeller@uniol.zer encouraged! T +-> NoGeNUG - Northern German NeXT User Group: NoGeNUG@proximus.north.DE <-+
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: twilson@risc.uni-linz.ac.at (Todd Wilson) Subject: au2snd? Message-ID: <CE40Jy.3H2@risc.uni-linz.ac.at> Keywords: sound, Sun Sender: jschicho@risc.uni-linz.ac.at (schicho josef) Organization: RISC Linz Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1993 09:47:58 GMT Does software exist to convert between Sun's audio format (*.au) and that of the NeXT (*.snd), or to otherwise play *.au files?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: gjudd@hackatg.demon.co.uk (Graham Judd) Subject: Re: .sig for NeXT Mail.app?? Message-ID: <1993Sep29.104431.12905@hackatg.demon.co.uk> Sender: gjudd@hackatg.demon.co.uk Organization: Hackwood Service Company References: <CEDMAN.93Sep29000243@capitalist.princeton.edu> Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1993 10:44:31 GMT In article <CEDMAN.93Sep29000243@capitalist.princeton.edu> cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes: [chomp] > I do not use such language either in person or on the internet. > RTFFAQ means Read the Friendly FAQ if I use it. The obscenities are > all yours. It might mean that to you but unfortunately that is not how ?most people will have read it. [chomp] > Responding to such a frequently asked question with just a short > pointer to the FAQ list helps reduce the amount of wasted bandwidth in > two ways: Such a pointer generally is much shorter than a complete > answer. And the mild embarrassment suffered the poster of the original > question will encourage others to read the FAQ before posting. Pity then that you did not point the questioner to the location of the FAQ. This would have been much more helpful than the RTFFAQ, which is all too readily misinterpreted. Also, if you are concerned about bandwidth, you must have realised that someone would respond to your 'curt' response. Whither the bandwidth now? Most people's time is valuable to someone or other, whether they be highly skilled professional or not, a professional does not, IMO, respond rudely when asked a naive, stupid, or obvious question. I'm sure that you are a fine human-being and always try to be friendly but this is not how you came across, which is a pity. > Carl Edman > Phew! I feel better now... Kindest regards Graham
From: alfred@ca-risc.co.at Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: VT200/320 for NeXT Date: 29 Sep 1993 11:34:28 GMT Organization: EUnet EDV-Dienstleistungsgesellschaft m.b.H Message-ID: <28brs4$q5k@hp4at.eunet.co.at> I am looking for VT200 / VT320 emulations for the black hardware. Any suggestions? Thanks Alfred -- ================================ Alfred H. Corrodi "Capitalism is based on the assumption Risk Manager that you can win the game. Communism Creditanstalt-Bankverein is based on the assumption that you can alfred@ca-risc.co.at (NeXT) break even. Mysticism is based on the Tel/43/1/531311967 Fax/5337341 assumption that you can leave the game."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: arrouye@petole Subject: Re: BackSpace CornerView.[hm] Content-Type: text/plain Message-ID: <arrouye.93Sep29142712@petole> Sender: news@imag.fr Organization: Institut Imag, Grenoble, France References: <2754o7$2hf@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <1993Sep15.155329.7107@imani.cam.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Distribution: fj Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1993 13:27:12 GMT > Hey, folks! > > I've just been browsing through the BackSpace 3.0 source code, and I > stumbled across this CornerView Objective-C class. I'm not sure, but > from what I can tell by looking at the code and the icon that the > class uses, it looks like this was designed to allow the user to > specify a "sleeping" corner of the screen such that the Screen Saver > wouldn't be activated if the mouse was in that corner. Kinda like > ScreenPeace does on Windoze. > > However, it doesn't look like this class is actually USED in > BackSpace. Has anyone figured out a way to cobble this in? > > Let's start a BackSpace 3.1 (4.0?) wish list... > > 1) Sleep corner You have them. There is even a section about them in the online documentation. The CornerView/[hm] files just define a class that draws itself as a square, eventually with a cross in it. But the SleepView class does the real stuff: a SleepView is put by BackSpace into a window of a high-level tier (18 if I remember correctly). This window has an exposure color the same gray your background has (on a mono monitor, but it works well on a color one with the default background color.) The SleepView owns a tracking rectangle of the window's contents. When the view receives a mouse entered event, it starts a timer, and loops getting events until the timer expires or it gets a mouse exited event. In the latter case, nothing is done, otherwise the screen saver is started. > 2) Activation service > - Bind a hotkey to it, then lock your screen with a > Command-Keypress from anywhere It is not possible, except if you get the event *before* all other applications (which may use this key...), which is really heavy to do. Yves
From: ernst@cs.tu-berlin.de (Ernst Kloecker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: GUI Tar App? Date: 29 Sep 1993 15:54:01 GMT Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <28cb2p$987@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> References: <28aci1$fsd@news.intercon.com> <1993Sep28.224252.12163@leland.Stanford.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) writes: >csmith@blackplague.gmu.edu writes >> Is there anything out there public domain/freeware/shareware/etc >> that is a gui to tar? just wondering. I've looked on the most >> common sites and not found anything. Try Opener.app, it supports .tar, .tar.Z, .zip, .arj, .gz ...., is easy to install and use, comes with source code, it's just perfect. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ernst Kloecker phone: ++49-30-6181635 e-mail: ernst@cs.tu-berlin.de -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) Subject: Re: au2snd? Message-ID: <1993Sep29.155707.7264@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: Stanford University References: <CE40Jy.3H2@risc.uni-linz.ac.at> Date: Wed, 29 Sep 93 15:57:07 GMT Todd Wilson writes > Does software exist to convert between Sun's audio format (*.au) > and that of the NeXT (*.snd), or to otherwise play *.au files? Yes. it consists of renaming the .au files to .snd. The formats are identical. (Wouldn't it make sense for Sound.app to recognize this and open .au files when double-clicked?) -- - Stefano Pagiola Food Research Institute, Stanford University spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged) spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
From: lusty@lusty.tamu.edu (Lusty Wench) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Linotronic 630 ppd problems? Date: 29 Sep 1993 18:21:44 GMT Organization: Me Message-ID: <28cjno$pak@TAMUTS.TAMU.EDU> So much for my optimistic post about going straight to film ;) I have a document in PasteUp that I dumped to a "postscript with fonts" file using the Linotronic 300 ppd that came with the NS/I distribution. My printer successfully downloaded this file to their Lino 300 (to paper). I then did the same thing, using the Linotronic 630 ppd that came with the NS/I distribution, but it will not successfully download to their Lino 630. I checked the LH630__1.PPD on the Adobe ftp site and found it to be different, and apparently more recent, than the 630 ppd that came with NS/I, so I tried again with this one. It downloads longer to the 630, but still bombs out. The printer is unable to tell me why it's bombing. Does anybody know why this would be happening? Am I doing something wrong? Is there a known problem with this device/ppd? Diana
From: mikes@velo.ucr.edu (Mike Shebanek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NEED WORD PROCESSOR NOW! (attn: RightBrain or anyone!) Date: 28 Sep 1993 01:08:58 GMT Organization: University of California, Riverside Distribution: world Message-ID: <2882ra$msm@galaxy.ucr.edu> References: <2877kv$kif@news.doit.wisc.edu> Buy Pages (by Pages). It's hot. No, I don't get any kickbacks. I just remember seeing it at NWexpo and liked it a lot. --- Mike Shebanek Computing and Communications University of California, Riverside Riverside, CA 92521 mikes@velo.ucr.edu (NeXTMail Accepted) In article <2877kv$kif@news.doit.wisc.edu> giddings@sadie.chem.wisc.edu (Michael Giddings) writes: > NEXTSTEP HAS A BIG VOID! > > We need a simple, straightforward word processor running on NS/I. On a 25MHZ > intel machine, Executor just isn't fast enough (though it's fine on a Motorola > box in many respects). >
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: hannes@elin-ekt.co.at (J.J.Deepwell) Subject: Re: NewsGrazer Configuration Message-ID: <1993Sep29.181243.1147@elin-ekt.co.at> Keywords: NewsGrazer configuration Sender: hannes@elin-ekt.co.at Organization: ELIN Energieanwendungen Ges.m.b.H. References: <1993Sep23.180717.22742@midway.uchicago.edu> Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1993 18:12:43 GMT In article <1993Sep23.180717.22742@midway.uchicago.edu> tom@enterprise.bsd.uchicago.edu (& Karas) writes: > Hello-- > > Do any of you know what files/directories contain user-based configuration > information for NewsGrazer? > The file ~/.newsrc is one of them. In it the read articles and unsubscribed groups are stored. The entrys have the following format: comp.misc! /* [comp.misc is unsubscribed] */ comp.sys.next.programmer: 874-876,878-894,917-925 /* the listed articles in this group are read */ -- J.J.Deepwell hannes@elin-ekt.co.at NeXTmail ok! -- J.J.Deepwell hannes@elin-ekt.co.at NeXTmail ok!
From: theharv@csld.ucr.edu (Brian Harvey) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Application compatibility Date: 28 Sep 1993 19:53:20 GMT Organization: University of California, Riverside Message-ID: <28a4ng$sti@galaxy.ucr.edu> I'm planning on upgrading a lab of 30 NeXTstations from 3.0 to 3.1. I need to know if the following software packages (which ran under 2.x and 3.0) still work under 3.1 before I upgrade: WriteNow SoftPC 2.0 Improv NewsGrazer Please let me know if these packages work under 3.1. Thanks! ----------------------------------------------------------------- Brian Harvey * theharv@csld.ucr.edu University of California, Riverside * brian@cs.ucr.edu UOB 221 Ext. 2842 C.S.L.D. System Administrator (NeXT Mail preferred everywhere!) -----------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) Subject: Re: Application compatibility Message-ID: <1993Sep29.185811.14901@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: Stanford University References: <28a4ng$sti@galaxy.ucr.edu> Date: Wed, 29 Sep 93 18:58:11 GMT Brian Harvey writes > I'm planning on upgrading a lab of 30 NeXTstations from 3.0 to > 3.1. I need to know if the following software packages (which > ran under 2.x and 3.0) still work under 3.1 before I upgrade: > > WriteNow > SoftPC 2.0 > Improv > NewsGrazer > they all do in my experience (but Improv and NG are the only two I've used heavily). -- - Stefano Pagiola Food Research Institute, Stanford University spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged) spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
From: luomat@alleg.edu (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: .sig for NeXT Mail.app?? Date: 29 Sep 1993 19:28:10 GMT Organization: Allegheny College Distribution: world Message-ID: <28cnka$mn5@ftp.alleg.edu> References: <1993Sep29.104431.12905@hackatg.demon.co.uk> If one did not want to take up bandwidth and wanted to help, he or she could have simply emailed the person who responded. A message of about 10 lines would have explained it, it would have been much more helpful, and it would have taken much less time than the discussion the original responder has now created. As it is, the person who began this because of his superior attitude has wasted much more time and effort than would have been necessary if he had simply gone on to the next message rather than respond. If he felt that people who don't know as much as he does are a burden, then he could have simply ignored the post, rather than telling them to read the FAQ. And anyone who is so intellectually superior to the person who asked this simple question should be smart enough to realize the general understanding of RTFFAQ. So as by saying he was using it as "Friendly" either makes him a liar OR not as smart as he would like the rest of us to believe. I am not inclined towards one option any more than another, as they both seem plausible to me. -- Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu [NeXT Mail Welcomed] Allegheny College -- Meadville PA USA
From: ken@synoptics.com (Ken Krieger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: .sig for NeXT Mail.app?? Message-ID: <CE4vqL.KtF@synoptics.com> Date: 29 Sep 93 21:01:33 GMT References: <1993Sep29.104431.12905@hackatg.demon.co.uk> Sender: news@synoptics.com Organization: SynOptics Communications, Inc. So, all that said... where do we find the FAQ? thanks, ken
From: annard@theborg.stack.urc.tue.nl (Annard Brouwer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Image gone...other alternatives?? Date: 29 Sep 1993 19:55:06 GMT Organization: the Borg Distribution: world Message-ID: <28cp6q$9u@theborg.stack.urc.tue.nl> References: <1993Sep28.161847.1199@cc.usu.edu> In article <1993Sep28.161847.1199@cc.usu.edu> slv0y@cc.usu.edu writes: > Ok, now that Appsoft is no more, what alternatives to Image are there? Even > though Image was rather buggy, it still had some neat editing features. Are > there any good applications out there for large image editing, and processing? > I have looked at TIFFany, and it does image processing, but it lacks the tools > to be an image editor...any others? > There are two that I know off: WetPaint and ComposeInColor. Both are neat apps, demo versions can be found on the archives. Toodlepip, Annard -- Annard Brouwer annard@stack.urc.tue.nl (NeXTmail appreciated) People? You can forget it.
From: annard@theborg.stack.urc.tue.nl (Annard Brouwer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NEED WORD PROCESSOR NOW! (attn: RightBrain or anyone!) Date: 29 Sep 1993 20:01:26 GMT Organization: the Borg Distribution: world Message-ID: <28cpim$a1@theborg.stack.urc.tue.nl> References: <jeffo.749286449@owens.slip.uiuc.edu> The following is just a rough idea description, but I would like to hear opinions... What I would like to see is a very good (extensible) text object which can be used by others to make a wordprocessor they like. I would like this to be developed out of the efforts of other companies like RightBrain and others. This object could be sold commercially and then capered for specific usage by other developers for their needs. In my opinion such a valuable text object would take much of the current barriers away and would really open up the way to an abundant array of wordprocessors to choose from. What do you think? Annard -- Annard Brouwer annard@stack.urc.tue.nl (NeXTmail appreciated) People? You can forget it.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: kevin@media.mit.edu (Kevin McGee) Subject: Help with file recovery Message-ID: <1993Sep29.214931.21186@news.media.mit.edu> Sender: news@news.media.mit.edu (USENET News System) Organization: MIT Media Laboratory References: <1993Sep24.085518.993@cc.usu.edu> <CDvG96.EGy@cobra.cs.unm.edu> <CDvtJE.GuE@cobra.cs.unm.edu> Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1993 21:49:31 GMT Is there a way to recover a file once the recycler has been emptied? Please mail (rather than post) any replies. Thanks. kevin@media.mit.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson) Subject: Re: NEED WORD PROCESSOR NOW! (attn: RightBrain or anyone!) Message-ID: <1993Sep29.210228.870@afs.com> Sender: greg@afs.com References: <2882ra$msm@galaxy.ucr.edu> Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1993 21:02:28 GMT In article <2882ra$msm@galaxy.ucr.edu> mikes@velo.ucr.edu (Mike Shebanek) writes: > Buy Pages (by Pages). It's hot. > > No, I don't get any kickbacks. I just remember seeing it at NWexpo and > liked it a lot. The only way Pages can be called "hot" is if you're using a stolen copy. Despite two months of NeXTWORLD ads stating otherwise, it's not shipping. -- Gregory H. Anderson | "History is the fiction we invent to Revisionist Autobiographer | persuade ourselves that events are Anderson Financial Systems | knowable and that life has order and greg@afs.com (NeXTmail OK) | direction." -- Calvin & Hobbes, 7/19/93 at NWexpo and > liked it a lot. The only way Pages can be called "hot" is if you're using a stolen copy. Despite two months of NeXTWORLD ads stating otherwise, it's not shipping. -- Gregory H. Anderson | "History is the fiction we invent to Revisionist Autobiographer | persuade ourselves that events are Anderson Financial Systems | kn
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Neil Greene <neil@kynug.org> Subject: Re: Image gone...other alternatives?? Message-ID: <1993Sep29.201526.14102@KYnug.org> Sender: neil@KYnug.org (Neil Greene) Organization: Kentucky NEXTSTEP User Group, Inc. References: <1993Sep28.161847.1199@cc.usu.edu> Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1993 20:15:26 GMT In article <1993Sep28.161847.1199@cc.usu.edu> slv0y@cc.usu.edu writes: > Ok, now that Appsoft is no more, what alternatives to Image are there? Even > though Image was rather buggy, it still had some neat editing features. Are > there any good applications out there for large image editing, and processing? > I have looked at TIFFany, and it does image processing, but it lacks the tools > to be an image editor...any others? I think you will be happy to know that TIFFany II was shipped out on Monday in Beta and the final release will have more tools as requested. -- Neil Greene President, benchMark Developments, Inc. [NeXT VAR] President, Kentucky NeXT User Group, Inc. North American, TIFFany Distributor
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Neil Greene <neil@kynug.org> Subject: Re: Image gone...other alternatives?? Message-ID: <1993Sep29.201808.14161@KYnug.org> Sender: neil@KYnug.org (Neil Greene) Organization: Kentucky NEXTSTEP User Group, Inc. References: <1993Sep28.161847.1199@cc.usu.edu> Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1993 20:18:08 GMT In article <1993Sep28.161847.1199@cc.usu.edu> slv0y@cc.usu.edu writes: > Ok, now that Appsoft is no more, what alternatives to Image are there? Even > though Image was rather buggy, it still had some neat editing features. Are > there any good applications out there for large image editing, and processing? > I have looked at TIFFany, and it does image processing, but it lacks the tools > to be an image editor...any others? Ohh yeah. Anyone interested in a demo copy of TIFFany may contact benchMark Developments at info@bMD.com. Those of you that would like to send in suggestions for tools, developer API, etc., etc. may send these comments into TIFFany-Suggestions@bMD.com. The developers are working hard to add the most requested items to the next release of TIFFany, now is your chance to get those suggestions in. Thanks! -- Neil Greene President, benchMark Developments, Inc. [NeXT VAR] President, Kentucky NeXT User Group, Inc. North American, TIFFany Distributor
From: anderson@sapir.cog.jhu.edu (Stephen Anderson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Gourmet and Mma 2.2? Date: 29 Sep 1993 21:15:54 GMT Organization: Dept. of Cognitive Science, The Johns Hopkins University Message-ID: <ANDERSON.93Sep29171555@sapir.cog.jhu.edu> Does anyone know how to get the old calculator app "Gourmet" to run (under OS3.1, on a cube) with the current version of Mathematica (2.2.1)? It claims Mma won't launch properly, and that it's looking for Mma 2 in LocalApps or Mma 1 in NextApps. When 2.2 installs, it does so in /LocalApps/Mathematica22.app. I tried putting symbolic links to this from /NextApps/Mathematica.app, /LocalApps/Mathematica.app, etc. (and including a link within /LocalApps/Mathematica22.app from Mathematica22 to Mathematica), but no luck. What is it actually looking for, and how can I provide it? --Steve Anderson
From: anderson@sapir.cog.jhu.edu (Stephen Anderson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Gourmet and Mma 2.2? Date: 29 Sep 1993 21:23:02 GMT Organization: Dept. of Cognitive Science, The Johns Hopkins University Message-ID: <ANDERSON.93Sep29172302@sapir.cog.jhu.edu> References: <ANDERSON.93Sep29171555@sapir.cog.jhu.edu> In-reply-to: anderson@sapir.cog.jhu.edu's message of 29 Sep 1993 21:15:54 GMT Sorry to follow up so quickly on my own question, but running strings on Gourmet, I found a reference to /usr/bin/math right around those to /LocalApps/Mathematica.app.... etc. I had installed math in /usr/local/bin, and a symbolic link from /usr/bin/math to /usr/local/bin/math made Gourmet happy. More apologies for wasted bandwidth. --Steve Anderson
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) Subject: Re: .sig for NeXT Mail.app?? In-Reply-To: luomat@alleg.edu's message of 29 Sep 1993 19:28:10 GMT To: luomat@alleg.edu (Timothy J. Luoma) Message-ID: <CEDMAN.93Sep29205813@capitalist.princeton.edu> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University References: <1993Sep29.104431.12905@hackatg.demon.co.uk> <28cnka$mn5@ftp.alleg.edu> Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1993 00:58:13 GMT In article <28cnka$mn5@ftp.alleg.edu> luomat@alleg.edu (Timothy J. Luoma) writes: If one did not want to take up bandwidth and wanted to help, he or she could have simply emailed the person who responded. A message of about 10 lines would have explained it, it would have been much more helpful, and it would have taken much less time than the discussion the original responder has now created. That would not have served the purpose. It would not: a) have prevented anyone else from giving the customary answer on this network. b) have encouraged the original poster to read the FAQ before posting again. c) informed others to do so as well before posting. As it is, the person who began this because of his superior attitude has wasted much more time and effort than would have been necessary if he had simply gone on to the next message rather than respond. But not at all. Within the past six months far more bandwidth has been used answering the original question over and over and over again than this little debate has used and without the benefits listed above. If he felt that people who don't know as much as he does are a burden, This network thrives on information gradients and I'm always happy to supply any technical information desired in this newsgroup which I happen to possess as quite likely hundreds of people reading this message can personally attest. However, endlessly repeated redundant questions to not serve any purpose other than discouraging experienced users from sharing their knowledge. A short, public RTFFAQ is the easiest and mildest way of stemming this tide. then he could have simply ignored the post, rather than telling them to read the FAQ. And anyone who is so intellectually superior to the person who asked this simple question should be smart enough to realize the general understanding of RTFFAQ. So as by saying he was using it as "Friendly" either makes him a liar OR not as smart as he would like the rest of us to believe. I am not inclined towards one option any more than another, as they both seem plausible to me. This point could easily be argued, but please forgive me if I do not as to put it bluntly your continued high regard is a matter of supreme indifference to me. Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bau@cs.cornell.edu (David Bau) Subject: Any success compiling unix software under NS 3.1/intel? Message-ID: <1993Sep30.030427.27342@cs.cornell.edu> Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853 Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1993 03:04:27 GMT How much success have other people had in compiling unix software for Nextstep 3.1 intel? I have heard that Nextstep is supposed to be standard enough unix that I should have no trouble compiling most unix programs for it, but I'm having trouble. Has anybody compiled: tcsh, gnu tar, gnu zip, bison, flex... etc under 3.1? For the time being, I especially miss tcsh (although i realize the next csh has some tcsh features). Well, at least we have emacs (although stuck in a single window). David
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: df@watershed.com (Dirk P. Fromhein) Subject: FAX hardware and software... Message-ID: <CE4uDz.727@ripple.uunet> Sender: jaeger@ripple.uunet (Dirk P. Fromhein) Organization: Watershed Technologies, Inc. Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1993 20:32:23 GMT What are our choices these days as far as FAX software/hardware goes? I have NO need to use both uucp and FAX at the same time (there are two serial ports after all), and have no need for a high speed modem (they will not be connected to anything but local ethernet). I'm looking for a simple and cheap solution for one of our customers. Thanks, -- Dirk Fromhein df@watershed.com Watershed Technologies, Inc. (508)-460-9612 Voice
From: ctm@ardi.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: What is the market for daydream? -> Speed matters Message-ID: <CE580D.DM0@cobra.cs.unm.edu> Date: 30 Sep 93 01:26:39 GMT Article-I.D.: cobra.CE580D.DM0 References: <CE35EE.6A4@cobra.cs.unm.edu> <1993Sep29.073715.2601@proximus.north.de> Sender: news@cobra.cs.unm.edu Organization: ARDI In article <1993Sep29.073715.2601@proximus.north.de> gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller) writes: >In article <CE35EE.6A4@cobra.cs.unm.edu> ctm@ardi.com writes: ... [speed discussion elided] Please note, once NeXT starts letting us use their "Interceptor" hooks around DPS, the screen access speed will go up considerably. We tried to do something similar by ourselves and for non-turbo NeXTstations, it is a win, but we don't have any turbo machines in house and we never expect to have one of each PC out there, so we really need the "Interceptor" stuff. NeXT has already said they'd allow us to use it. They even told us that we'd have it in a few weeks... trouble is, that was a couple of months ago. [bug in old version of Executor elided] I believe the bug that Gerhard described has already been fixed, but we leave Executor out on ftp sites so you can test things yourself to be sure that it is suitable for your use. That is something we didn't do initially but over time we learn from our customers. ... >And unfortunately it is >not so easy to get the graphics from the Word document in another >drawing program as MacDraw. Copy and Paste only works inside _one_ >Executor window. No. This is not true. Copy and Paste work between Executor and other programs running under NEXTSTEP, including additional instances of Executor. Executor supports Text, Rich Text and PICT types for cutting and pasting. The latter are predominantly a Macintosh construct, but David John Burrowe's ConvertPICT utility can handle them and make them available to programs that want to see EPS instead. DJB's utility is a relatively recent addition, but the cut and paste support has been there from day one (almost 2 years ago). However, there was specifically a bug related to MacDraw (which we don't officially support--don't get Executor in order to run MacDraw) that has been fixed. We never noticed it because we don't as of yet support MacDraw. >But as Executor has no System 7 below it, you cannot >run Word and MacDraw at the same time. Of course you can start 2 >Executors, but copying in one instance and pasting in the other does not >work. (ARDI, you can change that, I guess. Please do so! Executor >would gain even more functionality!) I think the misunderstanding comes specifically from MacDraw. MacDraw under Executor is unusable because there are incompatibilities that prevent scrolling from working. Until we can hire a few more engineers (hopefully as soon as Executor/DOS is shipping), we will not work much on MacDraw. However, one of our customers is using MacDraw anyway and he pointed out the cut and paste problem, so we fixed it (it was simple and it applied to MacDraw, but not cut and paste between Word and Excel, for example). NOTE: by having two Executors running, you don't have to worry about one program crashing and taking out the other one. We still use Word on a Macintosh and it crashes over there sometimes. Sorry. >After those tests I decided not to buy Executor for the moment. This >is not so much because I did not like it -- in fact it's a great thing >-- but more because of lack of money. (After all, I'm just a student and >have about 300 US$ a month for living (after paying the rent for my >room)) No problem. Many people took us up on our sale for July and August. Most people right now don't want to pay our current price for Executor ($499 commercial, $249 educational) and we understand. However, those prices come with free updates until we have color working and basically all major apps supported. Once we have cash coming in steadily from Executor/DOS, we will reevaluate our pricing policy. Remember too that that price is for a floating license and that Executor is "fat" (i.e. can run on both Motorola and Intel platforms). >There are a few things in favour of Executor/ARDI: >(1) The support seems to be outstanding marvellous, fantastic, > tremendous, etc. I thank you for the compliment, we try hard, but right now we're incredibly undermanned. I predict this will change for the better very soon (we've been getting about 100 calls a day, which is about as much as our primitive phone system can handle since Robert X. Cringely gave out our phone number and a brief description of Executor/DOS). >(2) ARDI tells the truth - no fancy advertisings that make you believe > more than tere is - WYRIWYG (What you read...) We try. Originally Executor was priced $80 and I explicitly said that we were charging $80 instead of $75.95 because I thought it was more honest. Now our prices are one dollar short of a nice round amount. We've been told by a variety of people to do that, partly because it may allow a purchase to slide into petty cash instead of a full blown purchase order. Oh well, what can you do. ... --Cliff ctm@ardi.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: .sig for NeXT Mail.app?? Message-ID: <1993Sep29.081425.3730@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <1993Sep28.114241.1133@hackatg.demon.co.uk> Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1993 08:14:25 GMT In article <1993Sep28.114241.1133@hackatg.demon.co.uk> gjudd@hackatg.demon.co.uk (Graham Judd) writes: > In article <CEDMAN.93Sep27224546@capitalist.princeton.edu> > cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes: > > In article <CE19H8.Iv8@news2.cis.umn.edu> klett@sunrayce.solar.umn.edu > (James P. Klett) writes: > > How can I set up a .sig file for the mail app?? A file called .sig > > in the user root dir dosn't work. > > And, if you know the answer to this one, then how about using the > > same sig for newsgrazer???? > > > > RTFFAQ. > > > > Carl Edman > > Carl, why not just answer the question instead of being discourteous. > I'd guess, if you've seen the same question twice a week for more than year, although it is already in the FAQ, you simply can't stand to answer it another time. Somtimes our courtesy gets eaten up. That's human nature! P.S.: The original posters .sig ist definitely larger than the body of his posting. Also nothing to make me more humble towards his question. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | NeXTmail welcome !!! # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: smcgrew@theocean Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: 3D modeling software Solidthinking Date: 29 Sep 93 21:36:43 Organization: University of Oregon Distribution: fj Message-ID: <smcgrew.93Sep29213643@theocean> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain This is in respose to several questions I have received about 3D modeling software on the Next platform. I have tested several packages and have found that Solidthinking MODELER is by far the most flexible and powerful of all of the packages that I have tried. I also feel that because of the upcomming animation and shader packages that will be available it is the only choice that I am aware of for broadcast quality animation work. I do feel that other programs are perhaps easier to learn and have a more uniform user interface but do not have the control and abilities that the MODELER have. It is spendy, however they provide excellent support and are more than willing to help solve problems and answer questions. If anyone else has any input about modeling/Animation packages please let me know. I am always interested in comments and reviews. Currently I am working on an animation project at the University of Oregon and welcome any suggestions or input. Steven McGrew University or Oregon Yes I really do live here! smcgrew@uoregon.edu Nextmail gladly accepted! (Finally! I have a NeXT-wanna-be)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: .sig for NeXT Mail.app?? Message-ID: <1993Sep29.232541.7304@ccsvax.sfasu.edu> From: deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu (Kelly Cunningham) Date: 29 Sep 93 23:25:40 CST References: <CE19H8.Iv8@news2.cis.umn.edu> Organization: As little as I can get away with... In article <CEDMAN.93Sep27224546@capitalist.princeton.edu>, Carl Edman <cedman@princeton.edu> pontificates: >In article <CE19H8.Iv8@news2.cis.umn.edu> klett@sunrayce.solar.umn.edu > (James P. Klett) writes: > How can I set up a .sig file for the mail app?? > >RTFFAQ. > > Carl Edman ESADYSSSOPC. -- kc
From: jhs3478@tamsun.tamu.edu (Jeffery H. Stephens) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Can I fit NS3.0 on my internal 105MB drive? Date: 29 Sep 1993 23:48:15 -0500 Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station Distribution: usa Message-ID: <28doef$bin@tamsun.tamu.edu> I understand that 3.0 takes up much more than 105MB, but can I just put the "important stuff" on my drive to upgrade?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: billc@iceCuBE.rain.com (William J. Coldwell) Subject: Re: .sig for NeXT Mail.app?? References: <28ba87$lj0@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> Sender: news@percy.rain.com (John Cavanaugh) Organization: /etc/organization Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1993 06:47:51 GMT Message-ID: <CE5Mvs.I67@percy.rain.com> In article <28ba87$lj0@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> mycroft@monolith.utexas.edu (Alex Currier) writes: > In article <CEDMAN.93Sep29000243@capitalist.princeton.edu> > cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes: > > <munch> [yum] So, you've managed to waste a 100 times more bandwidth complaining about someone who didn't read/find a FAQ, rather than to tell the 1 sentence solution to the problem? Try NeXTMail next time, and draw pretty pictures to each other... or better yet, answer the question, and point the person to the *Friendly* FAQ. Geez! -- William J. Coldwell - Amiga Attitude Adjuster - Cryogenic Software cryo@shell.portal.com (play) cryo.rain.com (BBX: port 42) billc@iceCuBE.rain.com (home) elite.intel.com (work) If you wouldn't ask dumbass questions, I wouldn't give smartass answers.
From: mbehrens@cs.utexas.edu (Mikael Behrens) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Should I install 3.1? Date: 30 Sep 1993 05:24:00 GMT Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas Distribution: usa Message-ID: <28dqhg$2b3@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> Howdy, I just received the 3.1 upgrade package (both user and developer) for my NeXTStation, and I'm trying to decide whether or not to install it. Of course I'll register it to get the free upgrade, but with 3.2 coming out at the end of Oct, is installation of 3.1 worth the trouble? Mikael -- Mikael Behrens mbehrens@cs.utexas.edu (NeXTMail OK) Computer Science student University of Texas at Austin "Attack ships on fire, off the shoulder of Orion..."
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: .sig for NeXT Mail.app?? Date: 30 Sep 1993 08:09:47 -0400 Organization: Digital Fix Development Distribution: world Message-ID: <28eiab$8pa@digifix.digifix.com> References: <CE5Mvs.I67@percy.rain.com> William J. Coldwell writes > In article <28ba87$lj0@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> mycroft@monolith.utexas.edu (Alex > Currier) writes: > > In article <CEDMAN.93Sep29000243@capitalist.princeton.edu> > > cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes: > > > > <munch> > [yum] > > So, you've managed to waste a 100 times more bandwidth complaining about > someone who didn't read/find a FAQ, rather than to tell the 1 sentence solution > to the problem? Try NeXTMail next time, and draw pretty pictures to each > other... or better yet, answer the question, and point the person to the > *Friendly* FAQ. > > Geez! Actually, the solution is more like a 50 line shell script, which Carl happened to write, and which makes the lack of this capability in Mail.app totally irrelevant. Carl's solution just works. You didn't have anything of any value to add to this thread, where as Carl often contributes to this group and others, along with writing freely available software, and his contributions to the FAQs. As for the historical significance of RTFFAQ, you need only remember the name of the FTP site that many FAQs are stored at. rtfm.mit.edu so its not really appropriate to flame Carl for this. -- - Scott Anguish - sanguish@digifix.com (NextMail) next-announce@digifix.com (comp.sys.next.announce submissions)
From: bchuang@css.itd.umich.edu (Galactus) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Should I Upgrade TODAY (Sep30)? Date: 30 Sep 1993 12:53:08 GMT Organization: Univeristy of Michigan ITD/User Services Message-ID: <28ekrk$1o6@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> to make a long story short, I'm a part time sys admin for a department at U of M that has a half dozen NeXTs. My real job is writing docs for our dce efforts, so I don't read these groups much anymore. I just got a message this morning that some users in the office heard about the 3.1 deal, which gives you free 3.2, and they are afraid that you can't upgrade directly from 3.0 to 3.2 I sent them a recommendation saying wait for 3.2. I own a NeXT myself, and I went through this debate about 3 months ago, but I'm sure things have changed. If anyone has the time, please mail me you suggestions, so that we can decide if we need to order by the end of the business day :) -- -----------------------------------------------v.1--- my name: Benjamin S. Chuang (Ben Chuang) my uniqname: bchuang my X.500 info: type "finger bchuang@umich.edu" <any U of M person with a uniqname can be fingered too>
From: samurai@amber.hasc.ca (Darcy Brockbank) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Attn: Steve Jobs What a Product Date: 30 Sep 1993 14:42:53 GMT Organization: The Hutchison Avenue Software Corp. Message-ID: <28er9d$i33@amber.hasc.ca> References: <1993Sep25.165649.21363@netnews.noc.drexel.edu> In article <1993Sep25.165649.21363@netnews.noc.drexel.edu> tjhendry@mcs.drexel.edu (Jonathan Hendry) writes: > Action (action@indirect.com) wrote: > > : going to do in your product. I saw the waste that went on at the hardware > : div. and I would not pay for you to continue to live the "GOOD LIFE" while > : you sell a defective product. Software people are tired of all promises > : and no performance. Jump at the chance to get ahead in the market. Fix > : the product and take the DOS area on strong - Mickey Soft needs to have > : a run for their money. If you continue on as you are,,I will wait and > : buy my software at the sale ! > > Guess what? Microsoft charges for support too. It's how things work > these days. Get used to it. Microsoft and IBM both give a 3 month period (or something like that) where you get free support. After that you pay... I think what NeXT should do is amortize the cost of 15 minutes of support per user into the price of NS. That'd be a difference of $30 in the price, and allow them to offer one hour of support advice (basically installing the !$@!$&^%$ system) for each person that buys (assuming that 1 in 4 will call). - db -- "No man should be discouraged from entering business through fear of taxation." -- N. Machiavelli "Oh God, I've got to catch Matlock at the courthouse and let him know that we've been tricked!" -- Me, (very confused) on awakening, Sep 24, 1993 ----- Opionions expressed by me, are not necessarily those of HASC -------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: john@wpa.com (John Bartley) Subject: Need Parabase help Message-ID: <CE1HE1.Kw@nimno.wpa.com> Sender: john@nimno.wpa.com (John Bartley) Organization: Workgroup Productivity Associates Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1993 00:58:49 GMT I need some help in converting Parabase text notes (stored as blobs) from a Sybase server to a Gupta server. Parabase sent me some software to supposedly accomplish this using their API, but it crashes after 60 records. Even though they agreed in writing to provide conversion software to handle this specific case, they are now renegging and refuse to support this. The kicker was today when I told them that the Parabase-supplied code crashed Parabase and they replied "sorry, we don't support customer C code." Sheeesh. I didn't write one word of code, it all came from Parabase. Is ANYBODY out there using Parabase? Does anybody know anything about the Parabase API? It's a little irritating to buy $4,800 worth of Parabase products and be told that they refuse to honor a key element of the reason for buying the new version of their software (i.e., the automated conversion program.) Not to mention paying by cashier's check months in advance of actually receiving bug-ridden software. Most NeXT software vendors I've bought from would bend over backwards to make sure things work right, but my experience with Parabase has been the exact opposite. If anyone has solved the blob-extraction process in Sybase and knows how to do what I'm talking about, get in touch with me ASAP. I'll make it worth your while$. John Bartley john@wpa.com PS - I'll apologize in advance for not using the Parabase user group e-mail list. Since Parabase runs it, I doubt that a request such as this would be allowed to pass through.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) Subject: Re: .sig for NeXT Mail.app?? In-Reply-To: klett@sunrayce.solar.umn.edu's message of Mon, 27 Sep 1993 21:58:53 GMT To: klett@sunrayce.solar.umn.edu (James P. Klett) Message-ID: <CEDMAN.93Sep27224546@capitalist.princeton.edu> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University References: <CE19H8.Iv8@news2.cis.umn.edu> Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1993 02:45:46 GMT In article <CE19H8.Iv8@news2.cis.umn.edu> klett@sunrayce.solar.umn.edu (James P. Klett) writes: How can I set up a .sig file for the mail app?? A file called .sig in the user root dir dosn't work. And, if you know the answer to this one, then how about using the same sig for newsgrazer???? RTFFAQ. Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bruce@TotSysSoft.com (Bruce Gingery) Subject: Re: pkzip/pkunzip 2.04g for the NeXT anyone?? Message-ID: <1993Sep30.035929.8472@ToTSySSoft.com> Sender: news@ToTSySSoft.com Organization: Total System Software References: <289i7f$ajj@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1993 03:59:29 GMT In article <289i7f$ajj@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> lones@lones.mit.edu (Lones A. Smith) writes: -> Hi, -> I really need the above utilty. Any specific help -> is much appreciated. Opener.app, and its contained source and .zip, .lzh, .arj, tar.Z, .gz, .tar.gz ... is the way to go for NEXTSTEP, at least for now. It won't CREATE .arj files, but will open them. It can both create and open .zip files, and I believe that the create .zip is optionally compatible. There's a better lzh handler for the next version. Bruce Gingery bruce@TotSysSoft.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bruce@TotSysSoft.com (Bruce Gingery) Subject: Re: Use the Developer from CD Message-ID: <1993Sep30.041416.8677@ToTSySSoft.com> Sender: news@ToTSySSoft.com Organization: Total System Software References: <283uf4$odd@corax.udac.uu.se> Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1993 04:14:16 GMT In article <283uf4$odd@corax.udac.uu.se> t89djo@albireo (David Jonsson) writes: -> How do I use the Developer from the 3.1 CD instead -> of installing it on my HD? It is a big waste of HD -> space to install the Developer and it is only -> slightly slower to run from a CD. The files are -> on the CD so I guess they are usable. Do I have -> to make the CD unmountable to use the Developer? Soft link all directories to your HD, and expect to run at a small fraction of full speed (well under half), unless your system is running from an OD boot/swap disk. You'll have to create some of them. I don't recall any Developer apps that have to run suid-root, but if you don't hard-mount the cd, it'll take the current-user's ID on ALL files. Of course that's no danger to overwrite anything on the CD-ROM :-) You might wish to consider actually installing the gdb components on your H/D, as it runs REALLY slow from CD-ROM Bruce Gingery bruce@TotSysSoft.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bruce@TotSysSoft.com (Bruce Gingery) Subject: .clr under 3.1 Mono (was Re: Adobe Illustrator Documents are not opened from Workspace) Message-ID: <1993Sep30.032022.7982@ToTSySSoft.com> Sender: news@ToTSySSoft.com Organization: Total System Software References: <1993Sep28.170742.28721@leland.Stanford.EDU> Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1993 03:20:22 GMT In article <1993Sep28.170742.28721@leland.Stanford.EDU> spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) writes: -> Sebastian Bauer writes -> > On my NeXTstation with Adobe Illustrator Version -> > 3.0.1 there seems to be no way to open .ai-files -> > automatically from the Workspace by double-clicking -> > on them. -> -> Do the .ai documents appear as illustrator icons? -> Sounds like you might have a permissions problem. -> Check that Illustrator is set with execute permissions -> for the users who are trying to use it. In a similar note, I just happened to peek into the 3.1 /NextDeveloper/Examples/Appkit/BreakApp source, and was surprised when the BreakApp.clr file showed an Icon. Having inspected no .clr files in the past, I double clicked it, and nothing happened. Pulling up the Workspace inspector, Workspace was the first (selected) option, and Edit the second. Yet, when I clicked in all combinations for Workspace to display it, nothing happened -- or the Inspector panel would switch to contents and display the "No Contents Inspector" message. Did I miss something (and not miss it until now on this Monochrome cube) on my 3.1 from-scratch install, or is something missing from the distribution? Thanks, Bruce Gingery bruce@TotSysSoft.com Next-mail preferred, Mime-mail ok, any plain RFC822 ok
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bruce@TotSysSoft.com (Bruce Gingery) Subject: Re: cnews or INN - what is better? Message-ID: <1993Sep30.034634.8368@ToTSySSoft.com> Sender: news@ToTSySSoft.com Organization: Total System Software References: <CDuy9o.10L@informatik.uni-muenchen.de> Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1993 03:46:34 GMT In article <CDuy9o.10L@informatik.uni-muenchen.de> westner@picasso.pst.informatik.uni-muenchen.de (Dominik Westner) writes: -> Hi, -> -> A few days ago I asked for help to install CNews. -> I got some replies to this. I understand that I can -> get a NeXT specific CNews package at cs.orst.edu. -> -> Somebody else recommended me to install INN instead. -> -> So right now I don't know, what is the right choice for me. -> I'm going to install it on a standalone NeXT running UUCP. -> -> Can anybody recommend me what to take or explain me -> the differences between CNEWS and INN. We're using inews,v 1.21 91/02/08 18:29:35, locally, and via slip with cnews for the compressed bundle handling via our UUCP link, and quite happy with both. Newsgrazer talks with inews quite well on nntp (service port 119) and on-system is really indistinguishable from flat-files. INN, according to the docs, was designed so that hot-net systems could have the latest news at all times. The docs for versions we've seen indicate that it should NOT be used with uucp news, but I've since read of many who DO combine INN with uucp. Bruce Gingery bruce@TotSysSoft.com NeXT-mail preferred, Mime-mail ok, any plain rfc822 ok
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jhh@genesis5.physics.yale.edu (Jim Horne) Subject: Getting ntpd to set clock properly Message-ID: <1993Sep30.183849.28740@cs.yale.edu> Keywords: #$!& NeXT clock stinks Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News) Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1993 18:38:49 GMT This question should be in the FAQs, but I couldn't find it. I have a NeXTstation Turbo running 3.0 (3.1 as soon as we find a CD-ROM player). As many people have noticed, the clocks on NeXTs really stink, losing about 1 minute every day. Unix has a standard daemon to fix this problem, ntpd, which can check some reliable time server and adjust the clock on the NeXT to the correct time. The problem is that NeXT seems to have rewritten ntpd so that you can only use other NeXTs! This is useless, as all NeXTs have rotten clocks. Does anyone know how I can tell ntpd to look at a timeserver outside my NetInfo domain? The ntpd on the NeXT ignores /etc/ntp.conf, which I'm told is the standard Unix place to put the name of the timeserver. Any suggestions? Do I need to get xntpd and compile it? Librarian is almost completely silent on this issue. -- Jim Horne jhh@waldzell.physics.yale.edu "With stupidity the gods themselves struggle in vain." Friedrich von Schiller
From: jcs@cco.caltech.edu (John C. Stevenson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: help with .compressed format Date: 30 Sep 1993 19:39:30 GMT Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena Message-ID: <28fcliINNju3@gap.caltech.edu> How do I uncompress a package with .compressed suffix? I tried changing it to .Z and using uncompress and the package won't open. advTHANKSance jcs@alumni.caltech.edu
From: anstine@uniblab.sas.upenn.edu (David Anstine) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: SLIP over a telnet connection Message-ID: <151123@netnews.upenn.edu> Date: 30 Sep 93 17:46:25 GMT Sender: news@netnews.upenn.edu Does SLIP work over a telnet connection, or must the connection be completely serial? Here's why I ask: I want to dial-in from my home NeXT to our modem pool and Annex terminal server. Instead of invoking SLIP here and getting a dynamic address, I want to telnet to my NeXT at work (which is configured as a slip server) and login as slip as the slip user (slip0), which will execute dudisc. Will this work? The main advantage here is that I could use my own ip addresses and not have to deal with the university's dynamic addressing. Once dudisc is executed on the server side, how would I enable slip on the client side? -dave
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: Clarance Howatt Subject: Report writer and Graphical Query Application ???????? Message-ID: <1993Sep30.202844.9950@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1993 20:28:44 GMT I know that there are at least a couple of ReportWriters and a couple of graphical query applications out there. The problem is that I have changed offices and can't find anything. If you are working on an application or know of one can you e-mail me please. Commercial applications only (sorry) Thanks in advance Clarance ============================================================ Clarance Howatt Programmer, Information Systems University of Alberta Hospitals WMC 2C2.21, 8440 - 112th Street,
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: brad@instep.wimsey.bc.ca Subject: Video Card driver for #9 GXe VL? Message-ID: <1993Sep30.211216.12434@instep.wimsey.bc.ca> Sender: brad@instep.wimsey.bc.ca (Bradley Head) Organization: InStep Mobile Communications Inc. Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1993 21:12:16 GMT I had heard that a driver was being written for the #9 GXe VL Video Card that Dell is using in the new Dimension 450/XPS and Dimension 466/XPS. Does anyone know if it is available yet? Thanks. brad... -- Bradley Head Software Developer, InStep Mobile Communications Inc. brad@instep.wimsey.bc.ca (NeXTmail accepted) 604 872-7116 fax: 604 872-7125
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) Subject: Re: help with .compressed format Message-ID: <1993Sep30.204900.3398@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: Stanford University References: <28fcliINNju3@gap.caltech.edu> Date: Thu, 30 Sep 93 20:49:00 GMT John C. Stevenson writes > How do I uncompress a package with .compressed suffix? I tried > changing it to .Z and using uncompress and the package won't > open. Call up the contents inspector and hit the uncompress button. -- - Stefano Pagiola Food Research Institute, Stanford University spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged) spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
From: t9116ts@tech.mis.cfc.com (Todd M. Swan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: TAR Date: 27 Sep 93 14:26:25 Organization: Chrysler Financial, MIS, Center Line, MI Distribution: world Message-ID: <T9116TS.93Sep27142625@litespeed.tech.mis.cfc.com> References: <0gdHrTW00WB98Z9JR0@andrew.cmu.edu> In-reply-to: Charles William Swiger's message of Sun, 26 Sep 1993 02:59:43 -0400 In article <0gdHrTW00WB98Z9JR0@andrew.cmu.edu>, Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes: >Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 26-Sep-93 Re: TAR by Scott >Anguish@digifix.co >> Uh Chuck... if he doesn't have tar, he probably doesn't have a >> compiler, and for sure he will not be able to untar the gnu-tar that he >> downloads. Then of course, if he doesn't have tar, he also probably >> doesn't have gzip and .... well, I think you see where I am headed ! :-) > >All unix systems (that I know of, anyway) have tar. If he doesn't have >tar, then he's almost certainly on an IBM PC system. The FTP site I >listed has IBM PC binaries of many basic unix programs (specifically, >gzip & tar - and *not* in the tar/compressed format), so he can get what >he needs from there. Uh Chuck... If he posts to comp.sys.next.software, isn't reasonable to assume that he is using NEXTSTEP? To answer the question: I believe both the user and developer versions have tar. If it isn't there something wasn't installed right or someone deleted it. Todd -- Todd M. Swan - tms@cfc.com - Chrysler Financial, Center Line, MI Member - SPWWLSSURLA and BTBS - Disclaimer: "I said it, not CFC." "If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice" - Rush
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: thf@zelator.in-berlin.de (Thomas Funke) Subject: Re: showcurs Message-ID: <1993Sep29.114314.1125@gamelan> Sender: thomas@gamelan (thomas) Organization: Disorganization References: <287f5f$t0b@news.intercon.com> Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1993 11:43:14 GMT In article <287f5f$t0b@news.intercon.com> disc@vector.intercon.com (David Casti) writes: > > I'm looking for the "showcurs utility" which will redisplay my > Next cursor after X exits. The utility is referred to in the > MouseX help files, but I can't find it on cs.orst.edu... > ---------- cut here --------- #! /bin/sh echo showcursor | pft ----------------------------- -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Thomas Funke ** Unix-Consultant ** thf@zelator.in-berlin.de Brook's Law: Adding manpower to a late software project makes it later ------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson) Subject: An open letter to PasteUp customers from the new owner Message-ID: <1993Sep30.225516.1706@afs.com> Sender: greg@afs.com Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1993 22:55:16 GMT I apologize for the impersonal nature of this communication, but I thought it was important to get this information in front of as many customers as quickly as possible to avoid misunderstandings and confusion. This letter will be sent to all existing PasteUp customers individually over the next week. Dear PasteUp customer: As you may have heard by now, Anderson Financial Systems has acquired the rights to PasteUp from RightBrain Software, effective October 1. I am writing to assure you of AFS's total commitment to supporting and enhancing the product as the NEXTSTEP market grows and matures. AFS has 11 years of experience as a software developer, the last 2 1/2 of which have been dedicated primarily to NEXTSTEP. As a result of our success in delivering NEXTSTEP-based Wall Street trading applications, and our improved opinion about NeXT's long-term viability, our Board of Directors recently decided to expand our presence in the NeXT market. PasteUp is the first in a series of purchased and internally developed software packages to be introduced over the next year. We expect to offer unparalleled customer service over the long run, but I hope you can appreciate that October will be a transition month with the usual fits and starts and surprises that accompany such events. Our negotiation with RightBrain was opened and closed in less than a month, during which time we have been training frantically to serve you effectively. Thanks in advance for your patience and indulgence during the next few weeks. I assure you the situation is temporary, and we will address priority needs on a priority basis. Our upgrade plans for PasteUp 3.0 and beyond include a programming API, an enhanced markup language, additional document import formats, long-form document support, and numerous other improvements. As an existing customer, your opinions about features that would make PasteUp more useful will be especially valuable. AFS is excited about owning PasteUp and expanding our presence in the NeXT community. You will soon receive a detailed message describing our support procedures, business hours, and contact personnel. In the meantime, if you have any questions or comments, please send email to PasteUp@afs.com, or use the address and phone numbers listed above. Yours truly, Gregory H. Anderson Chairman and CEO Anderson Financial Systems Inc. Greg_Anderson@afs.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson) Subject: Re: NEED WORD PROCESSOR NOW! (attn: RightBrain or anyone!) Message-ID: <1993Sep30.230131.1761@afs.com> Sender: greg@afs.com References: <2877kv$kif@news.doit.wisc.edu> Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1993 23:01:31 GMT In article <2877kv$kif@news.doit.wisc.edu> giddings@sadie.chem.wisc.edu (Michael Giddings) writes: > NEXTSTEP HAS A BIG VOID! Not anymore. Scurry on over to comp.sys.next.announce and let me know what you think. -- Gregory H. Anderson | "History is the fiction we invent to Revisionist Autobiographer | persuade ourselves that events are Anderson Financial Systems | knowable and that life has order and greg@afs.com (NeXTmail OK) | direction." -- Calvin & Hobbes, 7/19/93
From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NEED WORD PROCESSOR NOW! (attn: RightBrain or anyone!) Date: 30 Sep 93 22:44:56 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <jeffo.749429096@uiuc.edu> References: <jeffo.749286449@owens.slip.uiuc.edu> <28cpim$a1@theborg.stack.urc.tue.nl> Annard Brouwer writes: >What I would like to see is a very good (extensible) text object which can be >used by others to make a wordprocessor they like. Wasn't there just such a thing from some third-party company last year (or two years ago)? What ever happened to it? Were any *applications* made with it, or just more objects? Although I can see how it seems good when looking at how many developers can't or don't use the supplied text object to get their work done, I don't think this idea gets NS users any closer than we have been in the past to getting what NS word processing and DTP users need most -- applications. -- J.B. Nicholson-Owens (No NeXTmail please)
From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NEED WORD PROCESSOR NOW! (attn: RightBrain or anyone!) Date: 1 Oct 93 00:47:52 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <jeffo.749436472@uiuc.edu> References: <2882ra$msm@galaxy.ucr.edu> <1993Sep29.210228.870@afs.com> Gregory H. Anderson writes: >The only way Pages can be called "hot" is if you're using a stolen >copy. Despite two months of NeXTWORLD ads stating otherwise, it's not >shipping. Any idea on when it *will* ship? It's been vaporware for a couple of years now, hasn't it? Perhaps someone from pages.com could let us know what's up? -- J.B. Nicholson-Owens (No NeXTmail please)
From: perkins@sidney.cps.msu.edu (Stephen Perkins) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Anybody using a different version of cron? Date: 1 Oct 1993 02:12:40 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Distribution: world Message-ID: <28g3mo$rcl@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> Keywords: cron, crontab Howdy NeXT SW folks. I'm rather disappointed with the cron/crontab that is available on the NeXT. Normal users (i.e. not root) have no way to make things happen automagically on a regular basis. Has anybody compiled a cron/crontab that behaves like that on Sun OS? By this I mean a cron that will also allow users to maintain their own personal crontab file. Regards, Steve P.S. I realize that you may make 'at' files that reinstate themselves at a future date. Rather a crock in my opinion. I'd rather have an enhanced cron. ==================================================================== Stephen Perkins | Department of Computer Science | perkins@cps.msu.edu Michigan State University |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) Subject: GISO Message-ID: <1993Oct1.020921.16001@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: Stanford University Date: Fri, 1 Oct 93 02:09:21 GMT I've been trying to compile GISO, which I got from the archives. But although the compilation seems to run fine, the app crashes immediately after launch, and the following appears on the console: Sep 30 18:59:29 frinext GISO[1998]: File effects is missiong from app Sep 30 18:59:29 frinext GISO[1998]: File filetype is missiong from app Sep 30 18:59:29 frinext GISO[1998]: File rate missing Is this something that broke going from 2.x to 3.x? (The GISO source is in the 2.0-release/source folder in the archives.) -- - Stefano Pagiola Food Research Institute, Stanford University spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged) spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
From: maurices@spock.dis.cccd.edu (Maurice Shihadi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Use the Developer from CD Date: 30 Sep 1993 23:27:55 -0700 Organization: Coast Community College District, Costa Mesa, CA Message-ID: <28gilb$qul@spock.dis.cccd.edu> References: <283uf4$odd@corax.udac.uu.se> <1993Sep30.041416.8677@totsyssoft.com> In article <1993Sep30.041416.8677@totsyssoft.com>, Bruce Gingery <bruce@TotSysSoft.com> wrote: >In article <283uf4$odd@corax.udac.uu.se> t89djo@albireo (David >Jonsson) writes: >-> How do I use the Developer from the 3.1 CD instead >-> of installing it on my HD? It is a big waste of HD >-> space to install the Developer and it is only >-> slightly slower to run from a CD. The files are >-> on the CD so I guess they are usable. Do I have >-> to make the CD unmountable to use the Developer? > HA! Good luck. I dealt with that silliness with NS 2.1 and it drove me crazy. Finally, I went and got a 2 gig drive out of sheer aggravation. Life is so nice now with a 120 meg of free space. The only thing worse was waiting 5+ min per DOS disc to download binary internet data, cat everthing together and then have nothing work anyway. Oh well.... Sure hope it works out better for you. Maybe things a happening with 3.0-3.1-3.2. See ya, maurices
From: maurices@spock.dis.cccd.edu (Maurice Shihadi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,rec.music.makers.synth Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP Music Kit Demo Apps? Date: 30 Sep 1993 23:33:06 -0700 Organization: Coast Community College District, Costa Mesa, CA Message-ID: <28giv2$r0j@spock.dis.cccd.edu> References: <28a8tl$580@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> Music Kit demo apps can be found inside of the Music and Sound kit distribution found at: CCRMA-FTP@stanford.edu. CCRMA was supposed to release 4.0 in August then September. Anyone know whats up? maurices
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bob@anasazi.com (Bob Carroll) Subject: Re: NEED WORD PROCESSOR NOW! (attn: RightBrain or anyone!) Organization: Anasazi Inc, Phoenix AZ USA Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1993 01:14:52 GMT Message-ID: <bob.749438092@misty> References: <2882ra$msm@galaxy.ucr.edu> <1993Sep29.210228.870@afs.com> <jeffo.749436472@uiuc.edu> Sender: usenet@anasazi.com (Usenet News) jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) writes: >Any idea on when it *will* ship? It's been vaporware for a couple of >years now, hasn't it? Perhaps someone from pages.com could let us >know what's up? pages was demo'ed for the Phoneix NeXT Users Group a few days ago and it was very nice. I had the impression they would be shipping soon (next month?), but then I don't know how long they have been showing "betas". -- bob@anasazi.com Robert Carroll Anasazi, Inc. 7500 North Dreamy Draw Drive, Suite 120 Phoenix, Az 85020 USA
From: scott@nic.gac.edu (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: .sig for NeXT Mail.app?? Date: 1 Oct 93 01:39:39 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Message-ID: <SCOTT.93Oct1013939@nic.gac.edu> References: <CE19H8.Iv8@news2.cis.umn.edu> <1993Sep29.232541.7304@ccsvax.sfasu.edu> In-reply-to: deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu's message of 29 Sep 93 23:25:40 CST In article <1993Sep29.232541.7304@ccsvax.sfasu.edu>, deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu (Kelly Cunningham) writes: In article <CEDMAN.93Sep27224546@capitalist.princeton.edu>, Carl Edman <cedman@princeton.edu> pontificates: >In article <CE19H8.Iv8@news2.cis.umn.edu> klett@sunrayce.solar.umn.edu > (James P. Klett) writes: > How can I set up a .sig file for the mail app?? > >RTFFAQ. ESADYSSSOPC. Wow, everyone seems so intent on saying "Screw off and die you stupid idiot, would it have been so hard to just tell him the answer" that they all seem to be forgetting to tell the original poster the answer. Hopefully that poster, who in all likelihood is currently cowering under his bed in fear of the Usenet.Gods, eventually finds the courage to read some more of the discussion so that he gets to this post, wherein someone is actually going to _answer_ the original question! [No flames, please.] Answer A: It can't be done. Mail.app doesn't support it. Answer B: You can hack it into a custom script for Mail to use to send mail. Basically, Mail hands email to your script which then hacks in the info. For that, you really _should_ read the FAQ, because it's sort of involved to get it handling all cases (skeptics consider NeXTMail). Answer C: Snarf one of the many programs out there that provide new entries in your Services menu, one of which is "Insert Signature" or somesuch, which, when combined with a Command-key equivalent, makes it pretty easy indeed to insert .sigs. These programs come in many flavors, though I'm partial to TickleServices (get it and you'll see why). There's also MailHelper, and probably 85 or more others. Most offer a plethora of other features designed to make them desirable to the user (how do you think programs spread their genes? By convincing a programmer to make them useful enough that lots of people spread them all over the place willingly). Actually, Answer C is the path of least resistance for most people. Sort of a no-brainer. Now you're going to say "Scott, I, too, desire to partake of these wonders, but I do not perceive the way." Well, that's another FAQ ... the short answer is ftp sonata.cc.purdue.edu or cs.orst.edu and poke around. And, if you don't know what I'm talking about, use email ... Later, -- scott hess <shess@ssesco.com> <To the BatCube, Robin> 12901 Upton Avenue South, #326 Burnsville, MN 55337 (612) 895-1208 Anytime!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bvrotney@ADS.COM (Bill Vrotney) Subject: Scene under NS 3.1? Message-ID: <1993Oct1.074957.27039@ads.com> Sender: usenet@ads.com (USENET News) Organization: Advanced Decision Systems, Mtn. View, CA (415) 960-7300 Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1993 07:49:57 GMT Has anyone gotten Scene to work under NS 3.1? -- Bill Vrotney BAH/Advanced Decision Systems
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dmm0t@rincewind.mech.virginia.edu (David Meyer) Subject: Re: Getting ntpd to set clock properly Message-ID: <CE73L3.F8n@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> Keywords: #$!& NeXT clock stinks Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU Organization: University of Virginia References: <1993Sep30.183849.28740@cs.yale.edu> Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1993 01:46:15 GMT In article <1993Sep30.183849.28740@cs.yale.edu>, Jim Horne <jhh@genesis5.physics.yale.edu> wrote: > >This question should be in the FAQs, but I couldn't find it. > >I have a NeXTstation Turbo running 3.0 (3.1 as soon as we find a CD-ROM >player). As many people have noticed, the clocks on NeXTs really stink, losing >about 1 minute every day. Unix has a standard daemon to fix this problem, ntpd, >which can check some reliable time server and adjust the clock on the NeXT to >the correct time. The problem is that NeXT seems to have rewritten ntpd so that >you can only use other NeXTs! This is useless, as all NeXTs have rotten clocks. > >Does anyone know how I can tell ntpd to look at a timeserver outside my NetInfo >domain? The ntpd on the NeXT ignores /etc/ntp.conf, which I'm told is the >standard Unix place to put the name of the timeserver. Any suggestions? Do I >need to get xntpd and compile it? Librarian is almost completely silent on this >issue. I'd suggest you get the latest ntp daemon from louie.udel.edu:/pub/ntp/xntp3.3.tar.Z I believe it's still a beta, but it compiles and runs just fine on NeXTs (both 3.0 and 3.1). I've been using it for months with no problems. You could get xntp3-old.tar.Z if you're uptight about using a beta. Dave -- David M. Meyer Mechanical & Aerospace Engineering dmm0t@rincewind.mech.virginia.edu University of Virginia NeXTmail ok
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mross@antigone.com Subject: Re: Getting ntpd to set clock properly Message-ID: <1993Oct1.092738.1002@antigone.com> Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco References: <1993Sep30.183849.28740@cs.yale.edu> Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1993 09:27:38 GMT Jim Horne (jhh@genesis5.physics.yale.edu) wrote: : This question should be in the FAQs, but I couldn't find it. : I have a NeXTstation Turbo running 3.0 (3.1 as soon as we find a CD-ROM : player). As many people have noticed, the clocks on NeXTs really stink, losing : about 1 minute every day. Unix has a standard daemon to fix this problem, ntpd, : which can check some reliable time server and adjust the clock on the NeXT to : the correct time. The problem is that NeXT seems to have rewritten ntpd so that : you can only use other NeXTs! This is useless, as all NeXTs have rotten clocks. : Does anyone know how I can tell ntpd to look at a timeserver outside my NetInfo : domain? The ntpd on the NeXT ignores /etc/ntp.conf, which I'm told is the : standard Unix place to put the name of the timeserver. Any suggestions? Do I : need to get xntpd and compile it? Librarian is almost completely silent on this : issue. Kludge: If you trust a non-NeXT host's time, put an entry in your crontab.local to rdate it every 20 minutes or so: 0,20,40 * * * * root /usr/ucb/rdate mac >/dev/null -- Michael Ross Antigone Press, San Francisco, California e-mail: mross@antigone.com FAX: +1 415 431 3650
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: miker@abilene.webo.dg.com (miker) Subject: Re: Getting ntpd to set clock properly Sender: usenet@webo.dg.com (Usenet Administration) Message-ID: <1993Oct1.123504.26842@webo.dg.com> Date: Fri, 1 Oct 93 12:35:04 GMT References: <1993Sep30.183849.28740@cs.yale.edu> Organization: Data General Corp. Keywords: NTPD Time In article <1993Sep30.183849.28740@cs.yale.edu> jhh@genesis5.physics.yale.edu (Jim Horne) writes: > > This question should be in the FAQs, but I couldn't find it. > > I have a NeXTstation Turbo running 3.0 (3.1 as soon as we find a CD-ROM > player). As many people have noticed, the clocks on NeXTs really stink, losing > about 1 minute every day. Unix has a standard daemon to fix this problem, ntpd, > which can check some reliable time server and adjust the clock on the NeXT to > the correct time. The problem is that NeXT seems to have rewritten ntpd so that > you can only use other NeXTs! This is useless, as all NeXTs have rotten clocks. > > Does anyone know how I can tell ntpd to look at a timeserver outside my NetInfo > domain? The ntpd on the NeXT ignores /etc/ntp.conf, which I'm told is the > standard Unix place to put the name of the timeserver. Any suggestions? Do I > need to get xntpd and compile it? Librarian is almost completely silent on this > issue. > > -- > Jim Horne jhh@waldzell.physics.yale.edu > > "With stupidity the gods themselves struggle in vain." > Friedrich von Schiller Pick a NTP server that you would like to use. The document clock.txt (can be found with archie) contains lists that you can use. Enter the selected host with hostmanager and do either: 1. using Hostmanager->Network->Network Time Configuration set the new host to be Master and reboot. 2. Using NetinfoManager create /locations/ntp with the following proerties name = ntp server = SERVERNAME Where SERVERNAME is the host you picked. This works great for me.
From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Scene under NS 3.1? Date: 1 Oct 1993 13:27:21 GMT Organization: Division of Information Technology, UW-Madison Message-ID: <28hb7p$1js@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <1993Oct1.074957.27039@ads.com> In article <1993Oct1.074957.27039@ads.com>, Bill Vrotney <bvrotney@ADS.COM> wrote: >Has anyone gotten Scene to work under NS 3.1? Yep. Turn on the public window server in Preferences and watch out for security leaks. -- [Jess Anderson <> Division of Information Technology, University of Wisconsin] [Internet: anderson@macc.wisc.edu {o"o} UUCP:{}!uwvax!macc.wisc.edu!anderson] [Room 3130 <> 1210 West Dayton Street / Madison WI 53706 <> Phone 608/262-5888] [-----------> Cynicism is an unpleasant way of saying the truth. <------------]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: mark@cyantic.com (Mark T. Dornfeld) Subject: Re: Report writer and Graphical Query Application ???????? Organization: CYANTIC Systems Date: Fri, 01 Oct 1993 13:21:59 GMT Message-ID: <1993Oct01.132159.22776@cyantic.com> References: <1993Sep30.202844.9950@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> In article <1993Sep30.202844.9950@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> clarance@uaneuro.uah.ualberta.ca writes: >I know that there are at least a couple of ReportWriters and a couple of >graphical query applications out there. The problem is that I have >changed offices and can't find anything. If you are working on an >application or know of one can you e-mail me please. Commercial >applications only (sorry) Objective Technologies has announced a beta program for their DBKit based report writer Impress. Also, Athena Design's Mesa spreadsheet has a SQL query engine. Hope this helps. -- Mark T. Dornfeld, CYANTIC Systems Voice: (416) 234-9048 101 Subway Crescent Suite 2103 Facsimile: (416) 234-0477 Etobicoke, Ontario, M9B 6K4 CANADA Email: mark@cyantic.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mark@cyantic.com (Mark T. Dornfeld) Subject: Re: Video Card driver for #9 GXe VL? Organization: CYANTIC Systems Date: Fri, 01 Oct 1993 13:34:35 GMT Message-ID: <1993Oct01.133435.22880@cyantic.com> References: <1993Sep30.211216.12434@instep.wimsey.bc.ca> In article <1993Sep30.211216.12434@instep.wimsey.bc.ca> brad@instep.wimsey.bc.ca writes: >I had heard that a driver was being written for the >#9 GXe VL Video Card that Dell is using in the new Dimension 450/XPS and >Dimension 466/XPS. > >Does anyone know if it is available yet? I was talking to our Dell rep about an installation of few NS/FIP systems last week and he said the driver is just about finished. They are working quite closely with NeXT to get it done ASAP. Another month or so, was what I heard. They seem to like the XPS line a lot, and didn't have much good to say about the problems with ATI compatibility. Something is definitely wrong at ATI. He also said the volume of calls requesting info about NeXT/Dell has risen significantly in the past few weeks. -- Mark T. Dornfeld, CYANTIC Systems Voice: (416) 234-9048 101 Subway Crescent Suite 2103 Facsimile: (416) 234-0477 Etobicoke, Ontario, M9B 6K4 CANADA Email: mark@cyantic.com
From: neuss@igd.fhg.de (Christian Neuss ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: .sig for NeXT Mail.app?? Date: 1 Oct 93 14:06:19 GMT Organization: IGD Darmstadt Message-ID: <neuss.749484379@ramazzotti> References: <CEDMAN.93Sep29000243@capitalist.princeton.edu> <28ba87$lj0@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> mycroft@monolith.utexas.edu (Alex Currier) writes: [munch] > Life is difficult enough without people being rude for no >reason. To paraphrase Robert Heinlein, the beginning of a society's downfall >can be marked by a drastic decline in politeness and consideration. When >people starting being rude to each other, they're on the way out. [munch] I agree completely, Alex.. But to something completely different :-) .. Could somebody please answer the question SHEEPISH GRIN cause somebody recently suggested adding a terminal service to add the signature to both nextmail and non-next mail (by pressing cmd-something). The solution in the FAW doesn't allow for this.. But.. I didna get it to work. And no, I didn't ask here, since I expected RTFMs. But now that we're on the subject _anyway_, maybe some kind soul could post the solution, perhaps together with his or her flame? :-) Thank you kindly, Chris
From: Pop Tart Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Application compatibility Date: 1 Oct 1993 14:13:17 GMT Organization: Allegheny College Message-ID: <28hdtt$6bh@ftp.alleg.edu> References: <28a4ng$sti@galaxy.ucr.edu> Brian Harvey writes <->I'm planning on upgrading a lab of 30 NeXTstations from 3.0 to 3.1. <->I need to know if the following software packages (which ran under 2.x <->and 3.0) still work under 3.1 before I upgrade: <-> <->WriteNow <->SoftPC 2.0 <->Improv <->NewsGrazer <-> <->Please let me know if these packages work under 3.1. Thanks! <-> <->----------------------------------------------------------------- <->Brian Harvey * theharv@csld.ucr.edu <->University of California, Riverside * brian@cs.ucr.edu <->UOB 221 Ext. 2842 <->C.S.L.D. System Administrator (NeXT Mail preferred everywhere!) <->----------------------------------------------------------------- Improv, NewsGrazer, and WriteNow all work fine on the network I'm on. I'm not really sure about SoftPC 2.0 though. -- ///////////////////////////////\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ "Virtue is like a rich stone, best plain set." - Francis Bacon "If the dream is won, though everything is lost, We will pay the price, but we will not count the cost..." -Rush \\\\ Jeremy Bussard <-> C.J. <-> bussarj@alleg.EDU ////
From: andrew@stone.com (Andrew Stone) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: .clr under 3.1 Mono (was Re: Adobe Illustrator Documents are not opened from Workspace) Keywords: color Message-ID: <1993Oct1.135807.242@stone.com> Date: 1 Oct 93 13:58:07 GMT Article-I.D.: stone.1993Oct1.135807.242 References: <1993Sep30.032022.7982@ToTSySSoft.com> Sender: andrew@stone.com Organization: Stone Design Corp In article <1993Sep30.032022.7982@ToTSySSoft.com> bruce@TotSysSoft.com (Bruce Gingery) writes: > In article <1993Sep28.170742.28721@leland.Stanford.EDU> > spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) writes: > -> Sebastian Bauer writes > -> > On my NeXTstation with Adobe Illustrator Version > -> > 3.0.1 there seems to be no way to open .ai-files > -> > automatically from the Workspace by double-clicking > -> > on them. > -> > -> Do the .ai documents appear as illustrator icons? > -> Sounds like you might have a permissions problem. > -> Check that Illustrator is set with execute permissions > -> for the users who are trying to use it. > > In a similar note, I just happened to peek into the 3.1 > /NextDeveloper/Examples/Appkit/BreakApp source, and was > surprised when the BreakApp.clr file showed an Icon. Having > inspected no .clr files in the past, I double clicked it, and > nothing happened. Pulling up the Workspace inspector, > Workspace was the first (selected) option, and Edit the > second. Yet, when I clicked in all combinations for Workspace > to display it, nothing happened -- or the Inspector panel > would switch to contents and display the "No Contents > Inspector" message. > Did I miss something (and not miss it until now on this > Monochrome cube) on my 3.1 from-scratch install, or is > something missing from the distribution? > > Thanks, > Bruce Gingery bruce@TotSysSoft.com > Next-mail preferred, Mime-mail ok, any plain RFC822 ok Only unix people can lv thngs wth n vwls lk clr. Drag that .clr file into your Color Well when it is in List Mode - it's a list of custom colors. andrew -- ||<<->>||<<==>>||<<++>>||<<?>>||<<+>>||<<-->>||<<==>>||<<+>>|| !! Andrew Stone !! (505) 345-4800 !! !! andrew@stone.com <> Stone Design Corp !! ||<<->>||<<==>>||<<++>>||<<?>>||<<+>>||<<-->>||<<==>>||<<+>>||
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: simsong@next.cambridge.ma.us (Simson L. Garfinkel) Subject: InTouch vs. SBook Message-ID: <1993Oct1.134757.2554@next.cambridge.ma.us> Sender: simsong@next.cambridge.ma.us Organization: NeXTWORLD Magazine Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1993 13:47:57 GMT Could somebody please post a comparison of the features in InTouch vs. those in SBook? I tried using InTouch and have some thoughts about what it is doing, but as I'm a little biased on this matter, I would rather hear what other people have to say. Thanks. -Simson Garfinkel -- ................................................................simson
From: scwg0600@ih-nxt01.cso.uiuc.edu (Steven C Weintz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: InTouch vs. SBook Date: 1 Oct 1993 15:26:23 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <28hi6v$hq2@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <1993Oct1.134757.2554@next.cambridge.ma.us> In article <1993Oct1.134757.2554@next.cambridge.ma.us> simsong@next.cambridge.ma.us (Simson L. Garfinkel) writes: > Could somebody please post a comparison of the features in InTouch vs. those in > SBook? I tried using InTouch and have some thoughts about what it is doing, > but as I'm a little biased on this matter, I would rather hear what other > people have to say. > > Thanks. > > -Simson Garfinkel > -- > > .................................................................simson Hmm...I'd like to see more such comparisons, as a general thing. I like NeXTWORLD's comparison articles, but they leave me hungry for more. There does appear to be several niches in the NeXTSTEP app market that now have several competing products, and it would also be good to get informed comparisons with equivalent apps on other platforms. Bove and Rhodes' articles are good in this regard. We need more, in print and on the Net. Like, just as an example, how do WetPaint (which I'm partial to), TIFFany 2, and ComposeInColor stack up to each other and to Photoshop? Steve Weintz scwg0600@sumter.cso.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Michael_Pizolato@afs.com (Michael Pizolato) Subject: Re: help with .compressed format Message-ID: <1993Oct1.141425.297@afs.com> Sender: Michael_Pizolato@afs.com References: <28fcliINNju3@gap.caltech.edu> Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1993 14:14:25 GMT John C. Stevenson writes >How do I uncompress a package with .compressed suffix? >I tried changing it to .Z and using uncompress and >the package won't open. .compressed is .tar.Z. You can uncompress them by double-clicking in Workspace, or by changing the extension to .tar.Z and using the usual utilities. OTOH, you can also change .tar.Z to .compressed and uncompress it in Workspace, too. -m -- Michael_Pizolato@afs.com NeXTMail accepted
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software From: Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson) Subject: PasteUp support and prices have changed! Message-ID: <1993Oct1.152828.2302@afs.com> Sender: greg@afs.com Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1993 15:28:28 GMT Reply-To: Greg_Anderson@afs.com Effective October 1, 1993 (today), Anderson Financial Systems Inc. has taken over RightBrain Software's PasteUp(tm) application. This message summarizes new support and pricing information. SUPPORT Email support is available at the following addresses: PasteUp@afs.com - general information and ordering PasteUp-support@afs.com - customer assistance PasteUp-bugs@afs.com - reproduceable bug reports Phone support for all topics is available at +1 215 653 0911. SALES Pricing has changed as follows: Commercial license - $495 Academic license - $249 Upgrade to 2.1 - $25 Site licenses - negotiable All prices include domestic shipping and handling. Foreign surcharges depend on location and method of shipment. Pennsylvania customers add 6% sales tax. AFS will introduce a new low-cost word processor called WriteUp at the end of the year. Formal specifications will be announced by October 15, 1993. It will be priced as follows: Commercial license - $199 Academic license - $99 5-user license pack - $795 Site licenses - negotiable Orders for WriteUp are being accepted immediately with a unique guarantee: If the product does not ship by December 31, 1993, AFS will rebate $1 per day until it does. Credit cards will not be billed and checks will not be cashed until shipment, so there is no risk to the purchaser. This special "bet against the house" offer is good until December 1, and payment must accompany the order. Through December 31, 1993, all purchasers of PasteUp will receive a FREE copy of WriteUp when it ships. This offer will not be extended. Once WriteUp is shipping, both products must be purchased separately. And in a bold attempt to sell a copy of PasteUp to Nathan Janette, I hereby promise to disable the "RTF" button in my NewsGrazer... 8^) -- Gregory H. Anderson | "History is the fiction we invent to Revisionist Autobiographer | persuade ourselves that events are Anderson Financial Systems | knowable and that life has order and greg@afs.com (NeXTmail OK) | direction." -- Calvin & Hobbes, 7/19/93
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jq@phcs.com (Jim Quick) Subject: Re: Getting ntpd to set clock properly Message-ID: <CE89qo.9nF@phcs.com> Keywords: #$!& NeXT clock stinks Organization: Private Healthcare Systems, Inc References: <1993Sep30.183849.28740@cs.yale.edu> Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1993 16:56:48 GMT In article <1993Sep30.183849.28740@cs.yale.edu> jhh@genesis5.physics.yale.edu (Jim Horne) writes: > >This question should be in the FAQs, but I couldn't find it. > >I have a NeXTstation Turbo running 3.0 (3.1 as soon as we find a CD-ROM >player). As many people have noticed, the clocks on NeXTs really stink, losing >about 1 minute every day. Unix has a standard daemon to fix this problem, ntpd, I have been running timed (with no args) on my cube at work for a couple of years. In a net containing SUNs, SGIs and Pyramids, it has done the job well. I'm usually within 20-50ms as reported by timedc. -- ___ ___ mail: uunet!phcs!jq PHCS, Inc. Advanced Technology Group / / / or jq@phcs.com It's spelled "Luxury Yacht", but it's \_/ (_\/ Fax: (617) 863-8575 pronounced "Throat-Warbler Mangrove". ) Voice: (617) 861-5579 NeXTMail O.K.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: twilson@risc.uni-linz.ac.at (Todd Wilson) Subject: au2snd: summary Message-ID: <CE899E.JFo@risc.uni-linz.ac.at> Keywords: Sun, Sound Sender: jschicho@risc.uni-linz.ac.at (schicho josef) Organization: RISC Linz Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1993 16:46:26 GMT The overwhelming response to my enquiry on how to convert *.au files to *.snd files was simply to rename them: mv XXX.au XXX.snd Apparently, the Sun format is identical to the NeXT format--or as one respondent said, identical to one of the formats that NeXT reads. I thank everyone who responded. --Todd Wilson School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, and Research Institute for Symbolic Computation, Linz, Austria.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: ntomczak@PROBLEM_WITH_INEWS_GATEWAY_FILE (N Tomczak-Jaegermann) Subject: Re: pkzip/pkunzip 2.04g for the NeXT anyone?? Message-ID: <1993Oct1.164850.25031@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada References: <289i7f$ajj@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> <1993Sep28.165518.119251@embl-heidelberg.de> Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1993 16:48:50 GMT Georg Tuparev (tuparev@EMBL-Heidelberg.DE) wrote: > If you can wait till end of october, one bulgarian software house will start > selling a package containing all kind of zip, pkzip .... stuff. (I think ~$40 > for edu people) It has to be funny market though. Without any waiting you may get source from ftp.uu.net:pub/archivers for zip.2.01 and unzip unzip5.0.1 and compile, without any strain, on NeXT. They work just fine. For GUI interface TickleServices already support zip/unzip. It is likely that compiled executables are already on ftp archives, but I am not sure. Michal Jaegermann ntomczak@vega.math.ualberta.ca
From: nerella@boron.chem.duq.edu (Nadhamuni Nerella) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: X terminal Keywords: x Message-ID: <28hm08$ll5@noether.mathcs.duq.edu> Date: 1 Oct 93 16:31:04 GMT Organization: Duquesne University Hi, I am trying to run an X application on a NeXT. I have 'Xfe' on my system. But I am not sure how to use it. Can someone help me setup my NeXt such that I can run X applications. Also, the X application is residing on a remote m/c to which I have to 'telnet' first. I possibly cannt move that application to the NeXT. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks. Muni -- ****************************************************************************** )_+&$%^#@!~`(-: Nadhamuni Gupta Nerella :-)>?!~`@#$%^&* School of Pharmacy || nerella@next.duq.edu (NeXT) Duquesne University || nerella@duq3.cc.duq.edu (VMS) Pittsburgh PA 15282 || 412-396-5980(W) / 362-8972 (H) *******************************************************************************
From: greg@brooks.async.vt.edu (Greg Foliente) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NEED WORD PROCESSOR NOW! (attn: RightBrain or anyone!) Date: 1 Oct 1993 17:29:43 GMT Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia Message-ID: <28hpe7$egg@vtserf.cc.vt.edu> References: <bob.749438092@misty> In article <bob.749438092@misty> bob@anasazi.com (Bob Carroll) writes: > jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) writes: > >Any idea on when it *will* ship? It's been vaporware for a couple of > >years now, hasn't it? Perhaps someone from pages.com could let us > >know what's up? > > pages was demo'ed for the Phoneix NeXT Users Group a few days ago and it was > very nice. I had the impression they would be shipping soon (next month?), but > then I don't know how long they have been showing "betas". > -- > bob@anasazi.com > > Robert Carroll > Anasazi, Inc. 7500 North Dreamy Draw Drive, Suite 120 Phoenix, Az 85020 USA Someone from Pages replied to me that "...we expect to ship in early October." (This was from a 07 Sept e-mail.) -- ................................................................. Greg Foliente NeXTmail: greg@brooks.async.vt.edu Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, VA pol2@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu .................................................................
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: pjoey@charon.muc.de (Peter Eybert) Subject: Re: help with .compressed format Message-ID: <1993Oct1.182128.1022@charon.muc.de> Sender: pjoey@charon.muc.de Organization: Peter Eybert References: <28fcliINNju3@gap.caltech.edu> Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1993 18:21:28 GMT In article <28fcliINNju3@gap.caltech.edu> jcs@cco.caltech.edu (John C. Stevenson) writes: > How do I uncompress a package with .compressed suffix? > I tried changing it to .Z and using uncompress and > the package won't open. > advTHANKSance > jcs@alumni.caltech.edu Simply use Workspace->File->Decompress. Or rename the file to .tar.Z, and then Workspace->File->Decompress twice. -- ____________________________________________________________ Peter Eybert pjoe@charon.muc.de Appenzellerstr. 123 Tel: +49-89-7593734 81475 Muenchen (NeXTMail welcome) --
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) Subject: Game Request - Poker or Blackjack Message-ID: <1993Oct1.161818.1460@weston.com> Sender: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1993 16:18:18 GMT I would like a NeXTSTEP poker or blackjack game. I checked the archives, but I could find nothing. All help is appreciated. Thanks -- Wes Spears <-------> jspears@weston.com (NeXTMail Welcome) The Weston Group 8524 Highway 6 North, 162, Houston, TX 77095
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jag@seguente (Jagdish Narasimhan) Subject: gzip...? Message-ID: <1993Oct1.172709.8937@ximage.com> Sender: usenet@ximage.com (Usenet accout) Organization: XImage Corp. Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1993 17:27:09 GMT Hi: Will some kind soul point me in the direction of the archives that has gunzip ? Thanks... jag@ximage.com
From: alk@et.msc.edu (Anthony L. Kimball) Newsgroups: comp.sys.powerpc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP for PPC? Date: 1 Oct 1993 21:02:35 GMT Organization: Message-ID: <28i5tb$amk@uc.msc.edu> References: <1993Sep29.042704.29048@fcom.cc.utah.edu> <1993Sep30.032508.28322@tkymail.sps.mot.com> <1993Sep30.212817.8752@fcom.cc.utah.edu> Followups-to: comp.sys.powerpc,comp.sys.next.software A Wizard of Earth C (terry@cs.weber.edu) wrote: : You are deluded if you believe NeXTStep will be able to compete with the : projected NT street price of $65-$85 while carrying Adobe DPS licensing : around on its back. : Yes, DPS is incredible, but it will never be a player in the commodity : market unless Adobe is willing to trade their 100% of 1% for 90% of 60% : and lower the end user costs. They've shown no signs of this. Damn straight. Next should awake, and build their own DPS system on top of ghostscript/ghostiview.
From: anstine@uniblab.sas.upenn.edu (David Anstine) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Getting ntpd to set clock properly Message-ID: <151426@netnews.upenn.edu> Date: 1 Oct 93 18:29:46 GMT References: <1993Sep30.183849.28740@cs.yale.edu> Sender: news@netnews.upenn.edu In article <1993Sep30.183849.28740@cs.yale.edu> jhh@genesis5.physics.yale.edu (Jim Horne) writes: > > Does anyone know how I can tell ntpd to look at a timeserver outside my NetInfo > domain? The ntpd on the NeXT ignores /etc/ntp.conf, which I'm told is the > standard Unix place to put the name of the timeserver. Any suggestions? Do I > need to get xntpd and compile it? Librarian is almost completely silent on this > issue. > If you are on a net with a time server, add this machine to your root domain's /machines directory. Then with HostManager's Network Time Configuration, designate this machine as your master and click time service enabled. This will add /locations/ntp to netinfo's root domain. Then reboot, or try issuing /usr/etc/ntpd as this may also work. -dave
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: InTouch vs. SBook Message-ID: <Oct.1.17.27.30.1993.26823@gandalf.rutgers.edu> Date: 1 Oct 93 21:27:30 GMT References: <1993Oct1.134757.2554@next.cambridge.ma.us> Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J. simsong@next.cambridge.ma.us (Simson L. Garfinkel) writes: >Could somebody please post a comparison of the features in InTouch vs. those in >SBook? I tried using InTouch and have some thoughts about what it is doing, >but as I'm a little biased on this matter, I would rather hear what other >people have to say. Well, first its much more appropriately priced (IMHO) for this class of product and one of the reasons I bought it. 2nd, I think this app's aesthetics look better (but thats highly subjective) than SBook. 3rd, the way it integrates into the print/fax panel is great for mass faxing--this is an awsome feature. What SBook still does better... SBook's parsing is right now much more robust thatn InTouch. It figures out phone numbers, if theres a dash, if there isnt a dash, if there are parens, if there aren't parens etc. (Although I believe that Intouch knows fax #'s if you type fax around the phone number--which it has to since thats how it integrates into NS). Also, SBook's parser makes less mistakes in diagnosis of an element. SBOOK picks up addresses better and doesn't double up on long address... InTouch has an anoying tendancy to make t he country code after the zip into another address. Also there is no way to un icon-ize a parsed entry in Intouch. Finally SBOOk is better at dialing... It dials faster, it knows about prefixes and and droping area codes and adding 1's etc.. Now, I talked with the people at InTouch and most of these problems will be taken care of in future versions, plus much more robust add in modules like calandars etc... Anyhow, InTouch for me does my dialing just fine, thank you, looks good, and does cool faxing through NeXT's fax panel for free, plus its only 50bux edu. I was waiting for SBOOK to come down in price, but even it's sale with the calandar program was too high for me. Then InTouch came around, and well I like it!!! So I bought it. Besides, they make that cool game rocks :) Later, John
From: rmorris@post.its.mcw.edu (Robert Morris) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: hp laserjet4 printer driver Date: 1 Oct 1993 16:41:22 -0500 Organization: Medical College of Wisconsin; Milwaukee Wisconsin Message-ID: <28i862$rf6@post.its.mcw.edu> Where can I find a functional printer driver for a laserjet 4m printer for use with a nextstation running nextstep 3.0? (The copy I got from the archive server seems to have a bug) Thanks
From: ratlifc@ctron.com (Christian A. Ratliff) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NEED WORD PROCESSOR NOW! (attn: RightBrain or anyone!) Date: 1 Oct 93 14:34:46 Organization: Cabletron Systems, Inc.; Rochester, NH Distribution: world Message-ID: <RATLIFC.93Oct1143446@alexander.ctron.com> References: <jeffo.749286449@owens.slip.uiuc.edu> <28cpim$a1@theborg.stack.urc.tue.nl> <jeffo.749429096@uiuc.edu> In-reply-to: jeffo@uiuc.edu's message of 30 Sep 93 22:44:56 GMT In article <jeffo.749429096@uiuc.edu> jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) writes: >>What I would like to see is a very good (extensible) text object which can be >>used by others to make a wordprocessor they like. >Wasn't there just such a thing from some third-party company last year >(or two years ago)? What ever happened to it? Were any >*applications* made with it, or just more objects? Yes. There was such an object. It was a product put out called the "Archetype Document Engine" written by Archetype, Inc. of Waltham, MA. The producted was introed at Seybold '92. It was designed for complex, multi-user document management and authoring. It was a very interesting product built around a multi-platform Objective-C kernel. They have been working with Objective-C for a very long time and have ported the "Document Engine" to many platforms as the kernel for their own DTP package. christian [I am not actually very familiar with the product, just enough to know what it was when I interviewed with them] -- ----------- Raptor: `intention based security' | Christian Ratliff it does more than stop | ratlifc@ctron.com crackers; it reads their | Sales Systems Administrator minds... | Cabletron Systems, Inc.
From: mycroft@monolith.utexas.edu (Alex Currier) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: .sig for NeXT Mail.app?? Date: 2 Oct 1993 00:22:21 GMT Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas Message-ID: <28ihjt$c15@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> References: <neuss.749484379@ramazzotti> In article <neuss.749484379@ramazzotti> neuss@igd.fhg.de (Christian Neuss ) writes: > mycroft@monolith.utexas.edu (Alex Currier) writes: > [munch] > I agree completely, Alex.. > But to something completely different :-) .. Could somebody > please answer the question SHEEPISH GRIN...maybe some kind soul > could post the solution, perhaps together with his or her flame? > :-) In my consumption with religious ferver I completely neglected to even try to answer the original question. Fortunately Scott Hess has already done so (he answered both the original question and pointed to the location of the relevant FAQ). Thank you Scott. -- ======================================================================== Alex Currier | History is made at night... mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu | Character is what you are in the dark. ========================================================================
From: hsla@vtcc1.cc.vt.edu (Hoseong La) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: HELP: how to make *.ps? Date: 1 Oct 1993 20:46 EDT Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia Sender: hsla@vtcc1.cc.vt.edu (SHERRI TURNER) Distribution: world Message-ID: <1OCT199320460507@vtcc1.cc.vt.edu> News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41 I need help! First, my dvips in NS3.0 is kinda crazy. It first picks up some weird starting page number, then it keeps going and going without actually stopping. Is this a bug? IS there any place I can get a corrected dvips? Second, is there any way I can make *.ps in NeXTTeX and save it as *.ps. NeXTTeX obviously creates *.ps but it does not save *.ps. What am I missing here? Many thanks in advance. hs
From: nagler@wat2213.ucr.edu (jonathan nagler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: edit: SIMPLE question Date: 2 Oct 1993 01:41:26 GMT Organization: University of California, Riverside Message-ID: <28im86$1hj@galaxy.ucr.edu> Is there some way to put edit into a 'typeover' or 'replace' mode as opposed to the usual 'insertion' mode for typing?? -jonathan nagler jonathan nagler nagler@wat2213.ucr.edu; assistant professor [NextMail Okay] department of political science IP: 138.23.106.51 university of california Voice: (909) 787-7258 riverside, ca. 92521-0118 Fax : (909) 787-3933
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: uli@zoodle.robin.de (Ulrich Grepel) Subject: Re: NEED WORD PROCESSOR NOW! (attn: RightBrain or anyone!) Message-ID: <CE6x92.1o5@zoodle.robin.de> Sender: uli@zoodle.robin.de (Ulrich Grepel) Organization: meow!!! References: <1993Sep29.044410.24426@leland.Stanford.EDU> Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1993 23:29:25 GMT In article <1993Sep29.044410.24426@leland.Stanford.EDU> spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) writes: > Agreed entirely. By and large, I don't think NeXTSTEP does badly in > this regard. reading and writing DOS and Mac disks. Reading and > writing WP, Lotus, Excel files. Not a bad start. But certainly one > would like to be able to convert existing files to whatever NeXTSTEP > standard is chosen easily and painlessly. And again, wouldn't this be easy by putting the right stuff into /LocalLibrary/Services? The system is built for this kind of stuff. It's absolutely unneccessary that everyone writes a let's say MS-Word to rtf converter. (A good) One is enough. Bye, Uli
From: murshid@unit.edu (Murshid) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Scene Date: 2 Oct 1993 06:04:59 GMT Organization: The Avant-Garde of the Now, Ltd. Distribution: world Message-ID: <28j5mbINN1l1@network.ucsd.edu> Keywords: 3.1 Iwould like to run a copy of Scene under 3.1. I now understand that is possible. My copy in 2.1 hasn t survived my learning curve. If you have a Scene NeXTmail me a copy with any known tips for running it to: murshid@unit.edu A NeXT user for 2.5 years
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software From: burns@sparc4.cs.uiuc.edu (Edward John Burns) Subject: Help on writing packet sniffer network-related kernServer Message-ID: <CE99sz.JID@sparc0a.cs.uiuc.edu> Summary: Looking for an example packet sniffer kernServer Sender: news@sparc0a.cs.uiuc.edu Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1993 05:55:46 GMT I need to write a packet sniffer network-related kernel server. I tried looking at the source for MazeWar, but found it to be beyond what I would like to do. Really, I'd just like to use the if_ipackets() function to get the number of packets that come on the network for a given timeslice. I don't know what the netif_t netif should be or what the ipackets should be. Could someone point me to an example of a packet sniffer network-related kernel server? Thanks +-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^+ | Ed Burns | ACM Secretary, U of IL Urbana | h 217-332-3281| | e-burns@uiuc.edu | SigMicro 6:00 Wednesdays | o 217-333-5828| +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore) Subject: What happened to Archetype? Message-ID: <CE8otM.K5@genoa.com> Sender: alex@genoa.com (Alex Blakemore) Organization: Genoa Software Systems References: <RATLIFC.93Oct1143446@alexander.ctron.com> Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1993 22:22:34 GMT In article <RATLIFC.93Oct1143446@alexander.ctron.com> ratlifc@ctron.com (Christian A. Ratliff) writes: > There was such an object. It was a product put out called > the "Archetype Document Engine" written by Archetype, Inc. of > Waltham, MA. ...It was designed for complex, multi-user document > management and authoring. It was a very interesting product built > around a multi-platform Objective-C kernel. They have ... ported > the "Document Engine" to many platforms as the kernel for their > own DTP package. so what happened to Archetype? They've been awfully silent for a long time. Did they quietly go away?, go into the custom app biz? or (unrealistic hope :) are they about to introduce the killer app we heard so much about? -- Alex Blakemore alex@cs.umd.edu NeXT mail accepted
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: alberto@parsec.mixcom.com (Manuel Alberto Ricart) Subject: Re: InTouch vs. SBook Message-ID: <1993Oct2.160451.299@parsec.mixcom.com> Sender: alberto@parsec.mixcom.com Organization: SmartSoft, Inc. References: <Oct.1.17.27.30.1993.26823@gandalf.rutgers.edu> Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1993 16:04:51 GMT >Well, first its much more appropriately priced (IMHO) for this >class of product and one of the reasons I bought it. 2nd, I think >this app's aesthetics look better (but thats highly subjective) >than SBook. 3rd, the way it integrates into the print/fax panel >is great for mass faxing--this is an awsome feature. > >What SBook still does better... SBook's parsing is right now much >more robust thatn InTouch. It figures out phone numbers, if theres >a dash, if there isnt a dash, if there are parens, if there aren't >parens etc. (Although I believe that Intouch knows fax #'s if you >type fax around the phone number--which it has to since thats how >it integrates into NS). Also, SBook's parser makes less mistakes >in diagnosis of an element. SBOOK picks up addresses better and >doesn't double up on long address... InTouch has an anoying tendancy >to make the country code after the zip into another address. Also there is InTouch's parser isn't as developed as SBook's - YET, but it will be - and VERY soon, we are dedicating several resources to this. The international version due out this month will address all these problems. Right now InTouch expects addresses to be laid out the way that the US Post Office recommends - usually the important line is the last and the decisive factor in the recognition sequence. For US addresses: City, State Zip For Foreign addresses: City, Whatever Zip COUNTRY IN CAPS >no way to un icon-ize a parsed entry in Intouch. Yes there is - all you have to do delete the icon using your backspace key. >Finally SBOOk is better at dialing... >It dials faster, It dials faster when using the speaker because they use the DSP to generate the signals live. This presents a problem with INTEL machines that don't have the DSP. We took a slightly different approach - we play sounds that we created with the DSP, but recorded into sound files. Any PC capable of playing sounds will be able to dial using the internal speaker. - This way we insure a lower common denominator at a negligible performance loss (actually true for the first number dialed) - after that we are just as fast. People with NEXTSTEP on PC are likely to have sound capabilities more often than DSP's. >it knows about prefixes and >and droping area codes and adding 1's etc.. InTouch will do this as well. But because we use the system database, we have to store numbers the way they are dialed for faxes, rather than making a decision at run time. We are not always guaranteed to be the ones dialing the number. (the fax panel or other .addresses format smart app) > >Now, I talked with the people at InTouch and most of these problems >will be taken care of in future versions, plus much more robust >add in modules like calandars etc... Right now, we offer Emacs keybinding to many of the text operations. Also, there are special modules, that will send data to recipients in various formats automatically (this will be free of charge to current InTouch customers. Better label printing support (you'll be able to add graphics) There will also be a flexible import feature, so that you can bring in data from whatever source you like (DataPhile, etc). In the January 94 upgrade, will add many other features for displaying and searching groups. > >Anyhow, InTouch for me does my dialing just fine, thank you, looks >good, and does cool faxing through NeXT's fax panel for free, plus >its only 50bux edu. I was waiting for SBOOK to come down in price, >but even it's sale with the calandar program was too high for me. >Then InTouch came around, and well I like it!!! So I bought it. >Besides, they make that cool game rocks :) > >Later, John Thank you Alberto -- --- Alberto Ricart SmartSoft, Inc. 2220 E. Linnwood Avenue, Milwaukee, WI 53211-3321
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) Subject: Re: NEED WORD PROCESSOR NOW! (attn: RightBrain or anyone!) Message-ID: <1993Oct2.173145.10569@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: Stanford University References: <CE6x92.1o5@zoodle.robin.de> Date: Sat, 2 Oct 93 17:31:45 GMT Ulrich Grepel writes > > Agreed entirely. By and large, I don't think NeXTSTEP does badly > > in this regard. reading and writing DOS and Mac disks. Reading > > and writing WP, Lotus, Excel files. Not a bad start. But > > certainly one would like to be able to convert existing files to > > whatever NeXTSTEP standard is chosen easily and painlessly. > > And again, wouldn't this be easy by putting the right stuff into > /LocalLibrary/Services? The system is built for this kind of > stuff. It's absolutely unneccessary that everyone writes a let's > say MS-Word to rtf converter. (A good) One is enough. Good point. No reason such a filter could not be developed and sold in its own right. Still, there's a difference between doing word->rtf and doing word->WP format (or pages format, or whatever); word processor developers might still want to have specialized filters. Either way, though, the main point is that moving to NeXT should not imply having to leave data behind, and the move has to be as easy as possible: completely transparent if possible. I was lucky in my own transition that this was the case, thanks to WP/NeXT and Improv (which read 123 files). Others will have a harder time. -- - Stefano Pagiola Food Research Institute, Stanford University spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged) spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: royce@splunge.uucp (Royce Howland) Subject: Re: NEED WORD PROCESSOR NOW! (attn: RightBrain or anyone!) Message-ID: <1993Sep30.174843.16744@splunge.uucp> Keywords: word processor Organization: Ashley, Howland & Wood References: <2877kv$kif@news.doit.wisc.edu> <Sep.28.09.37.43.1993.16180@gandalf.rutgers.edu> Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1993 17:48:43 GMT kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) writes: >giddings@sadie.chem.wisc.edu (Michael Giddings) writes: >>NEXTSTEP HAS A BIG VOID! >>There is a market for a real word processor here. Even if there are only >>75,000 NeXTSTEP users, I'm sure a significant portion of those would like an >>inexpensive, straightforward, and SUPPORTED word processor. >Which begs the question... > Will NeXT roll WriteNow back into NeXT? Obviosly its unacceptable to have so LITTLE wordprocessing options, especially on the intel platforms... WriteNow is a dead product, in all likelihood. A big reason Appsoft took so long to do anything with it is that the app makes heavy use of 68K assembly language. How are you going to port that to Intel? More importantly, why bother? Why not just build something new from scratch? And build something better, while at the task. WriteNow is a middle-weight word processor, a product that is essential in an OS' well-rounded app lineup, but not a product that you'd want to expend tremendous effort bringing into being in a new environment, for its own sake. Unfortunately, while the NeXT market-place formerly seemed merely indifferent to most third-party shrink-wrapped app developers, it now appears to be turning inimical to them (minus a few, e.g. those who have found ways to leverage their apps along the lines of the excellent comments on this situation in the October NeXTWORLD). I can't see too many folks champing at the bit to run out and put their bacon on the line these days to build and sell shrink-wrapped apps like word-processors, on spec, for an OS whose manufacturer's mandate is exclusively to tackle Fortune 100 companies in the financial trading market place, and maybe medicine and a few other high-leverage MCCA markets. This is depressing for me, because if it's true, it means that in a short while, the system I want to use for professional purposes (development and consulting) won't be the same one I use for personal purposes, or even for all aspects of professional use. (Consultants have to write documents, too, and I refuse to be limited to Word Perfect as my only option, even if I liked the product.) Maybe it's time to start shopping for a Mac or Windows/NT box to run shrink- wrapped apps. -- Royce Howland Everything is IMHO royce@splunge.uucp (NeXTMail OK) or kakwa!atlantis!splunge!royce
From: ratlifc@ctron.com (Christian A. Ratliff) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: What happened to Archetype? Date: 2 Oct 93 18:50:39 Organization: Cabletron Systems, Inc.; Rochester, NH Distribution: world Message-ID: <RATLIFC.93Oct2185039@alexander.ctron.com> References: <RATLIFC.93Oct1143446@alexander.ctron.com> <CE8otM.K5@genoa.com> In-reply-to: alex@cs.umd.edu's message of Fri, 1 Oct 1993 22:22:34 GMT In article <CE8otM.K5@genoa.com> alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore) writes: >so what happened to Archetype? >They've been awfully silent for a long time. >Did they quietly go away?, go into the custom app biz? >or (unrealistic hope :) are they about to introduce the killer app >we heard so much about? Archetype had successful applications and a successful DE kernel for quite a while. I assume they've just scaled back on their NeXTstep development, for obvious reasons. christian ----------- Christian Ratliff <ratlifc@ctron.com> [|] Cabletron Systems, Inc. Sales Systems Administrator [|] 36 Industrial Way "You goto END in viewonly. try <F1>" [|] Rochester, NH -Barstowian Error [|] #include <sys/disclaimer.h> -- ----------- Christian Ratliff <ratlifc@ctron.com> [|] Cabletron Systems, Inc. Sales Systems Administrator [|] 36 Industrial Way "You goto END in viewonly. try <F1>" [|] Rochester, NH -Barstowian Error [|] #include <sys/disclaimer.h>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: uli@zoodle.robin.de (Ulrich Grepel) Subject: Re: au2snd? Message-ID: <CE8nFM.E1@zoodle.robin.de> Sender: uli@zoodle.robin.de (Ulrich Grepel) Organization: meow!!! References: <1993Sep29.155707.7264@leland.Stanford.EDU> Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1993 21:52:33 GMT In article <1993Sep29.155707.7264@leland.Stanford.EDU> spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) writes: > Todd Wilson writes > > Does software exist to convert between Sun's audio format (*.au) > > and that of the NeXT (*.snd), or to otherwise play *.au files? > > Yes. it consists of renaming the .au files to .snd. The formats are > identical. > > (Wouldn't it make sense for Sound.app to recognize this and open .au > files when double-clicked?) This unfortunately doesn't work. If you use segedit to first extract then modify then replace the Sound.iconheader file from the Sound.app executable then the WorkspaceManager knows (after renaming Sound.app or removing the appcache and of course re-login) about a program called Sound.app that is supposed to handle .au files. Supposed to. It even starts Sound.app. But then the same happens as if you do /NextDeveloper/Demos/Sound.app/Sound xxx.au & namely the great and wise Sound.app decides that it can't really handle the xxx.au file and brings up an empty window. It's remarkable that you can drop .au files into the icon well in that window - Sound.app recognizes them then. BTW: Is there any way to make the WorkspaceManager to recognize the 'correct' icon for the sound files? Is there any way to get documentation about these things? Or better: what do you have to enter in DL to find it? Bye, Uli
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NEED WORD PROCESSOR NOW! (attn: RightBrain or anyone!) Date: 3 Oct 1993 01:18:23 -0400 Organization: Digital Fix Development Distribution: world Message-ID: <28lnav$nqd@digifix.digifix.com> References: <1993Sep30.174843.16744@splunge.uucp> Royce Howland writes > WriteNow is a dead product, in all likelihood. A big reason Appsoft > took so long to do anything with it is that the app makes heavy use > of 68K assembly language. How are you going to port that to Intel? hey! We need Cliff at ARDI to start working on a NEXTSTEP 68K emulator for NEXSTEP Intel! :-) -- - Scott Anguish - sanguish@digifix.com (NextMail) next-announce@digifix.com (comp.sys.next.announce submissions)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: ctm@ardi.com Subject: Re: NEED WORD PROCESSOR NOW! (attn: RightBrain or anyone!) Message-ID: <CEB7po.E4q@cobra.cs.unm.edu> Sender: news@cobra.cs.unm.edu Organization: ARDI References: <1993Sep30.174843.16744@splunge.uucp> <28lnav$nqd@digifix.digifix.com> Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1993 07:05:50 GMT In article <28lnav$nqd@digifix.digifix.com> sanguish@digifix.com writes: >Royce Howland writes >> WriteNow is a dead product, in all likelihood. A big reason Appsoft >> took so long to do anything with it is that the app makes heavy use >> of 68K assembly language. How are you going to port that to Intel? > > hey! We need Cliff at ARDI to start working on a NEXTSTEP 68K emulator >for NEXSTEP Intel! :-) > >-- >- Scott Anguish - >sanguish@digifix.com (NextMail) >next-announce@digifix.com (comp.sys.next.announce submissions) Here's a funny story. About a year and a half ago, while many people were talking about the NRW (NeXT RISC Worksatation), I offered ARDI's services to NeXT to do a synthetic CPU. Rumor has it that they were also talking to Insignia at the time. The amount of money that we were asking for was small, and it even looked like NeXT might bite, but for various reasons, we never did the deal. ARDI is probably very lucky that we didn't get the synthetic CPU job back then, because it probably would have meant that I personally would have done the implementation (I had already done the design while I was recovering from pneumonia). Instead, the synthetic CPU got put on the backburner and eventually I had to contract the work out to Mat Hostetter, a person I really didn't know but who had a killer reputation in certain small circles. I figured I'd give him my design and hold his hands as necessary. RIGHT! Mat had his own ideas and they were better than mine. In fact, when we had a disagreement, we'd talk it over, and almost invariably, I'd see things his way. In fact, he implemented and tested our current synthetic CPU in six weeks. I consider myself a pretty talented programmer. I've done some cool things in a relatively short period of time, but Mat _rocked_. I'm sure I could have developed a synthetic CPU that performed just as quickly as Mat's, but it probably would have taken me twice as long, it wouldn't have been as portable and it wouldn't have been as clean. So, it is my conclusion that NeXT not taking us up on my offer was a win for us. In fact, NeXT's dropping of hardware has been a major win for us as well, even though it's made the last 8 months pretty difficult. --Cliff ctm@ardi.com
From: mycroft@monolith.utexas.edu (Alex Currier) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXTSTEP WWW client? Date: 3 Oct 1993 07:47:10 GMT Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas Message-ID: <28m01u$rsu@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> Just the other day I saw a very nice WWW client for Macintosh written by the folks at NCSA. The phrase that leaps to mind is "ultimate Net surfboard". For those who haven't seen WWW it's kinda like gopher but full hypertext with embedded pictures, sounds, quicktime movies and the like. No cryptic commands and no hierarchical menu structures to browse through. Information practically flows out of it. I want this for NeXTSTEP. Does such a thing exist yet or am I going to have to take a crash course in NS development and do it myself? As always, your help and/or flames are greatly appreciated. -- ======================================================================== Alex Currier | History is made at night... mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu | Character is what you are in the dark. ========================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bruce@TotSysSoft.com (Bruce Gingery) Subject: Re: au2snd? = /bin/mv Message-ID: <1993Oct3.020235.6580@ToTSySSoft.com> Sender: news@ToTSySSoft.com Organization: Total System Software References: <CE40Jy.3H2@risc.uni-linz.ac.at> Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1993 02:02:35 GMT In article <CE40Jy.3H2@risc.uni-linz.ac.at> twilson@risc.uni-linz.ac.at (Todd Wilson) writes: -> Does software exist to convert between Sun's audio -> format (*.au) and that of the NeXT (*.snd), or to -> otherwise play *.au files? For all I've tried -- a few megs, it has been merely a matter of renaming the ".au" to ".snd" Bruce Gingery bruce@TotSysSoft.com NeXT-mail preferred, Mime-mail ok,
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bruce@TotSysSoft.com (Bruce Gingery) Subject: Re: help with .compressed format Message-ID: <1993Oct3.032039.6894@ToTSySSoft.com> Sender: news@ToTSySSoft.com Organization: Total System Software References: <28fcliINNju3@gap.caltech.edu> Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1993 03:20:39 GMT In article <28fcliINNju3@gap.caltech.edu> jcs@cco.caltech.edu (John C. Stevenson) writes: -> How do I uncompress a package with .compressed suffix? -> I tried changing it to .Z and using uncompress and -> the package won't open. -> advTHANKSance -> jcs@alumni.caltech.edu zcat < file.compressed | tar -xpf - Note that the "p" may not work non-root. Add a v to the tar flags to see what's being extracted as it goes. Of course, you could just use Workspace, either the menu or inspector. HOWEVER, since one of the Workspace defaults deals with "Always tar for compress", it is possible that some compressed files may only actually convert to ".Z" -- I'm not at all certain about thus as a possibility. Bruce Gingery bruce@TotSysSoft.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: simsong@next.cambridge.ma.us (Simson L. Garfinkel) Subject: Re: InTouch vs. SBook Message-ID: <1993Oct3.154043.1463@next.cambridge.ma.us> Sender: simsong@next.cambridge.ma.us Organization: NeXTWORLD Magazine References: <1993Oct2.160451.299@parsec.mixcom.com> Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1993 15:40:43 GMT In article <1993Oct2.160451.299@parsec.mixcom.com> alberto@parsec.mixcom.com (Manuel Alberto Ricart) writes: > It dials faster when using the speaker because they use > the DSP to generate the signals live. This presents a problem > with INTEL machines that don't have the DSP. We took a > slightly different approach - we play sounds that we created > with the DSP, but recorded into sound files. Any PC capable > of playing sounds will be able to dial using the internal > speaker. - This way we insure a lower common denominator at > a negligible performance loss (actually true for the > first number dialed) - after that we are just as fast. > People with NEXTSTEP on PC are likely to have sound capabilities > more often than DSP's. > Buzz. Sorry, thanks for playing, Alberto. I don't make statements about how the internals of InTouch works. Please don't make statements about SBook, okay? SBook does not use the DSP to dial. > InTouch will do this as well. But because we use the system > database, we have to store numbers the way they are dialed > for faxes, rather than making a decision at run time. > We are not always guaranteed to be the ones dialing > the number. (the fax panel or other .addresses format > smart app) > You know, SBook will export to the NeXT fax address list. It will also make all of those decisions about whether or not to press the 1, dial the area code, &c. The advantage of the SBook way of doing this is that you can have one address book and move it around from area code to area code, and it still does the right thing (all you do is tell SBook you are in a new area code). -- ................................................................simson
From: andrew@wire.gatech.EDU (andrew abernathy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Page Layout under NeXTSTEP Date: 3 Oct 1993 12:17:34 -0400 Organization: The Ohio State University Sender: daemon@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Message-ID: <9310031615.AA00393@wire.gatech.edu> Some friends of mine were hoping to build a business doing desktop publishing on NeXTSTEP. They would be basically laying out magazines (40+ pages, I think) - beyond that I'm not sure what they need, though I do know they would like color separation. The initial plan was to use PasteUp or Pages. Pages continues to slip and PasteUp has turned out not to be up to the job. They have Virtuoso and love it, but it doesn't do multiple-page layout and looks unlikely to soon. The question comes down to this: is there someone out there doing serious page layout under NeXTSTEP who can recommend tools that can handle this type of work? They are rapidly approaching the point where they have to make a decision as to whether or not to proceed, and the way things are right now, they would have to not continue, so any help would be greatly appreciated! --- andrew_abernathy@wire.gatech.edu (NeXTmail ok) Powered by Motorola
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP WWW client? Message-ID: <1993Oct3.170528.5546@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: Stanford University References: <28m01u$rsu@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> Date: Sun, 3 Oct 93 17:05:28 GMT Alex Currier writes > Just the other day I saw a very nice WWW client for Macintosh > written by the folks at NCSA. The phrase that leaps to mind is > "ultimate Net surfboard". For those who haven't seen WWW it's > kinda like gopher but full hypertext with embedded pictures, > sounds, quicktime movies and the like. No cryptic commands and > no hierarchical menu structures to browse through. Information > practically flows out of it. I want this for NeXTSTEP. Does such > a thing exist yet or am I going to have to take a crash course > in NS development and do it myself? As always, your help and/or > flames are greatly appreciated. There is a WWW "browser" for NeXTSTEP. In fact, the WWW itself was originally designed on NeXTs, at CERN in Switzerland. Problem is, there are few NeXTs around, so most of the work has moved on to other platforms. The current NS WWW browser (version 0.16, I believe) is pretty ancient compared to things like Mosaic available on other platforms. I believe you can get the NS WWW browser from info.cern.ch in /hypertext/WWW/Clients. Some time ago, Tim Berners-Lee, the WWW's originator, asked if anybody was interested/willing in maintaining and extending the NS WWW browser. I don't know that anyone took him up on it. -- - Stefano Pagiola Food Research Institute, Stanford University spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged) spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
From: mycroft@monolith.utexas.edu (Alex Currier) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP WWW client? Date: 3 Oct 1993 17:46:27 GMT Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas Message-ID: <28n35j$c9t@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> References: <1993Oct3.170528.5546@leland.Stanford.EDU> In article <1993Oct3.170528.5546@leland.Stanford.EDU> spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) writes: > There is a WWW "browser" for NeXTSTEP. In fact, the WWW itself was > originally designed on NeXTs, at CERN in Switzerland. Problem is, > there are few NeXTs around, so most of the work has moved on to other > platforms. I ftp'd WordWideWeb.app from the cern site and ran it... it gave me a dialogue box saying "Can't find internet node name 'cernvax.cern.ch'." and when I hit OK it quit without giving me a chance to select another www server. Unless there is a dwrite for the www server or unless cernvax is just temporarily offline this app appears to be useless. -- ======================================================================== Alex Currier | History is made at night... mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu | Character is what you are in the dark. ========================================================================
From: jhs3478@tamsun.tamu.edu (Jeffery H. Stephens) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: where is Backspace.app for 3.0? Gone from archives? Date: 3 Oct 1993 13:51:24 -0500 Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station Distribution: usa Message-ID: <28n6vc$8rm@tamsun.tamu.edu> Has Backspace for 3.0 been removed from the ftp sites? I can't seem to find it out there anywhere!?!?!?!!!!! Thanks.... -jeff
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) Subject: Re: where is Backspace.app for 3.0? Gone from archives? Message-ID: <1993Oct3.192230.8847@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: Stanford University References: <28n6vc$8rm@tamsun.tamu.edu> Distribution: usa Date: Sun, 3 Oct 93 19:22:30 GMT Jeffery H. Stephens writes > Has Backspace for 3.0 been removed from the ftp sites? I can't > seem to find it out there anywhere!?!?!?!!!!! Thanks.... Look in your hard disk in /NextDeveloper/Examples/AppKit. -- - Stefano Pagiola Food Research Institute, Stanford University spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged) spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Page Layout under NeXTSTEP Date: 3 Oct 93 21:07:00 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <jeffo.749682420@uiuc.edu> References: <9310031615.AA00393@wire.gatech.edu> I think it'll be some time before NS becomes a competitive DTP platform. Unless your friends feel like waiting to see what AFS does with PasteUp or Pages with Pages, I can't think of anything off the top of my head for NS (besides TeX, of course) to do 40+ page documents. -- J.B. Nicholson-Owens (ASCII mail only)
From: hickman@cse.unl.edu (Hubert B. Hickman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Scantastic + NS/FIP Date: 3 Oct 1993 22:23:19 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Distribution: world Message-ID: <28njcn$el1@crcnis1.unl.edu> Is anyone using Scantastic to connect to scanners under NS/FIP? We seem to be having a hard time getting it to work. We are using Compaq DeskPros and a ScanJet IIC. We have tried both the Adaptec and DPT SCSI cards without much luck. Are there any other options for driving the IIC from NS/FIP? Thanks, Hubert Hickman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: balu@jensen.cc.brandeis.edu (t balasubramanian) Subject: crystallography Message-ID: <1993Oct4.021752.9095@news.cs.brandeis.edu> Sender: news@news.cs.brandeis.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Brandeis University Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1993 02:17:52 GMT Hi, Is there any program on the ftp sites for crystallography for the NeXT. It should be capable of viewing any crystal along variuos planes and if possible also see the reciprocal latice. I would appreciate if the info can be emailed to me. Thanks T. Balasubramanian
From: hamm@mbcl.rutgers.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: NEXTSTEP re-entry: advice sought Message-ID: <2951.2caf3cce@mbcl.rutgers.edu> Date: 4 Oct 93 00:57:50 GMT Greetings, I am attempting to re-acquaint myself with NEXTSTEP. A few years back, I attended Developer's Camp, and never really had the time to work extensively with the system after that. I have access to a (mono) '040 cube, and now want to spend some time working on it. I need a jump-start on a few issues, and would appreciate whatever advice anyone can give. 1) The thing is still running version 2.x, but I have the upgrades to 3.0 and 3.1. I first need to decide whether or not to upgrade. Does any of the software installed on the 2.x system (Improv, WordPerfect, WriteNow, Sybase, Lisp, Co-Xist, Mathematica) still work with 3.x? For which of these do upgrades exist, and how costly are they? 2) How much of the development environment has changed? Should I toss my camp notes, or is most of the stuff still applicable? Or should I re-do the exercises under 2.x, and *then* upgrade? 3) If the move to 3.x is really dire, is it possible to partition my disk (it's big) and have *both* systems installed, booting each as needed? 4) I may also have access to a NeXtDimension board and display. Is this even supported under 3.x? Is it worth installing? How does it impact performance of the rest of the system for "ordinary" tasks? 5) Finally, what's the current wisdom on FAX modems and software ? The state of play the last time I looked was that NeXT had put FAX services into the system, but there was a lot of net traffic about problems, bugs, etc. What's the deal now? Thanks in advance to anyone who can help with advice and/or pointers! Greg - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Gregory H. Hamm || Phone: (908)932-4864 Director, Molecular Biology Computing Lab || FAX: (908)932-5735 Waksman Institute/CABM || BITNET: hamm@biovax P.O. Box 759, Rutgers University || Internet: hamm@mbcl.rutgers.edu Piscataway, NJ 08855-0759 * USA || - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: paulk@mindvox.phantom.com (Paul Kerrios) Subject: Gopher, Mosaic, Archie, MAB Message-ID: <qNTVac1w165w@mindvox.phantom.com> Originator: paulk@mindvox Sender: news@mindvox.phantom.com Organization: [MindVox] / Phantom Access Technologies / (+1 800-MindVox) Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1993 06:10:13 GMT Are there MAB versions of any of the following usual internet tools that I use on my Sun with X Windows, available under NeXTSTEP for intel? Gopher Archie WWW WAIS and most of all MOSAIC Any information or leads are appreciated. //=======================================\\ Paul Kerrios /=/ Society has made me what I am today. \=\ \=\ Ok so maybe I just watch too much TV! /=/ \\=======paulk@mindvox.phantom.com=======//
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: wass@sics.se (Anders Wass) Subject: Free PPP? Message-ID: <1993Oct4.090713.20104@sics.se> Sender: news@sics.se Organization: Swedish Institute of Computer Science, Kista Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1993 09:07:13 GMT Someone mentioned that there was a free PPP version available a while ago. Of course I didn't write it down and now I can't find it in any archive...where do I look? Anders Wass wass@sics.se SICS/Swedish Television
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Jelske Kloppenburg <Jelske.Kloppenburg@gmd.de> Subject: Re: Adobe Illustrator Documents are not opened from Workspace Message-ID: <1993Oct4.092903.25940@gmd.de> Sender: news@gmd.de (USENET News) Organization: GMD, Sankt Augustin, Germany References: <1993Sep28.091400.3307@news.lrz-muenchen.de> Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1993 09:29:03 GMT In article <1993Sep28.091400.3307@news.lrz-muenchen.de> bauer@galilei.lbm.mw.tu-muenchen.de (Sebastian Bauer) writes: > Hi, > > On my NeXTstation with Adobe Illustrator Version 3.0.1 there seems to be > no way to open .ai-files automatically from the Workspace by > double-clicking on them. Within the Workspace-inspector-panel the only > tool that shows up for .ai-files is Edit.app. And obviously the icon of > ai-files is the one of simple text-files. > I had installed Illustrator in a directory "/2.Harddisk/LocalApps" which > was linked to "/LocalApps" (and which I once have put into the > application search-path). I also tried to have Illustrator physically in > "/NextApps" and in "~/Apps". Nothing helped! All the other applications > in "/2.Harddisk/LocalApps", "/NextApps" and "~/Apps" are doing as they > are supposed to. > > Thanks for any help. > Sebastian > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Sebastian Bauer, e-mail <bauer@lbm.mw.tu-muenchen.de> (NeXTmail welcome) > Institute B for Mechanics (Prof. F. Pfeiffer) > Technical University Munich, Germany > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Get the program 'Adobe_Illustrator_3.0.1' out of the app-wrapper. -- Jelske Kloppenburg, +49 2241 14-2433, <Jelske.Kloppenburg@gmd.de> GMD (German National Research Center for Computer Science) "Don't kill the Winners!" Dennis Tsichritzis
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Jelske Kloppenburg <Jelske.Kloppenburg@gmd.de> Subject: Re: Adobe Illustrator Documents are not opened from Workspace Message-ID: <1993Oct4.093312.26444@gmd.de> Sender: news@gmd.de (USENET News) Organization: GMD, Sankt Augustin, Germany References: <1993Sep28.092224.3552@news.lrz-muenchen.de> Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1993 09:33:12 GMT In article <1993Sep28.092224.3552@news.lrz-muenchen.de> bauer@galilei.lbm.mw.tu-muenchen.de (Sebastian Bauer) writes: > Sorry for the double posting, but I found another, maybe helpful, symptom. > > In article <1993Sep28.091400.3307@news.lrz-muenchen.de> > bauer@galilei.lbm.mw.tu-muenchen.de (Sebastian Bauer) writes: > > Hi, > > > > On my NeXTstation with Adobe Illustrator Version 3.0.1 there seems to be > > no way to open .ai-files automatically from the Workspace by .. > > > > Thanks for any help. > > One symptom that I noticed is that every time I start Adobe Illustrator > there appears the following message on the console: > > Sep 28 10:15:52 galilei Adobe_Illustrator[234]: Assertion failed: > loadNIBSection: could not find data > > Sebastian > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Sebastian Bauer, e-mail <bauer@lbm.mw.tu-muenchen.de> (NeXTmail welcome) > Institute B for Mechanics (Prof. F. Pfeiffer) > Technical University Munich, Germany > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- That's another 'feature'. AI tries to load a nib section which misses. I forgot the name, but it seemed unimportant to me. just ignore it. gruss j.k. -- Jelske Kloppenburg, +49 2241 14-2433, <Jelske.Kloppenburg@gmd.de> GMD (German National Research Center for Computer Science) "Don't kill the Winners!" Dennis Tsichritzis
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bauer@galilei.lbm.mw.tu-muenchen.de (Sebastian Bauer) Subject: Summary to: Adobe Illustrator Documents are not opened from Workspace Message-ID: <1993Oct4.142036.12062@news.lrz-muenchen.de> Sender: news@news.lrz-muenchen.de (Mr. News) Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany) References: <1993Oct4.093312.26444@gmd.de> Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1993 14:20:36 GMT In article <1993Sep28.091400.3307@news.lrz-muenchen.de> bauer@galilei.lbm.mw.tu-muenchen.de (Sebastian Bauer) writes: > [...] > On my NeXTstation with Adobe Illustrator Version 3.0.1 there seems to be > no way to open .ai-files automatically from the Workspace by > double-clicking on them. Within the Workspace-inspector-panel the only > tool that shows up for .ai-files is Edit.app. And obviously the icon of > ai-files is the one of simple text-files. > [...] For all that are interested in that topic: I have received an answer from James B. Heiser from Adobe Systems, Incorporated (jheiser@adobe.com - NeXTmail accepted). The fix works! The ability of NeXTstep to properly handle app-wrapper directories, which contain more than one period in their name has been removed from NeXTSTEP 2.x to NeXTSTEP 3.x. So, if you use Adobe Illustrator under NeXTSTEP 3.x you have to rename the app-wrapper directory (Adobe_Illustrator_3.0.1.app) and, within that, the application (Adobe_Illustrator_3.0.1) to Adobe_Illustrator.app and Adobe_Illustrator, respectively. To make the Workspace know of that change, "update the workspace" <Command - u>, and it will handle .ai files correctly. Sebastian -- Sebastian Bauer <bauer@lbm.mw.tu-muenchen.de> (NeXTmail welcome) Institute B for Mechanics (Prof. F. Pfeiffer) Technical University Munich, Germany
From: yjwu@unix.cie.rpi.edu (Yeun-Jung Wu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Error message during make. Something wrong with dpsNeXT.h? Date: 4 Oct 1993 15:33:34 GMT Organization: CIE, Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY Message-ID: <28pfoe$628@usenet.rpi.edu> Summary: Error message during make. Keywords: make I was trying to compile some programs but more than often the compiling process stop with the following error message. Can anyone point to me what it really means? Thank you in advance! cc -O -g -Wall -c Controller.m -o obj/Controller.o /NextDeveloper/Headers/dpsclient/dpsNeXT.h:91: missing right curly brace, found ' *** Exit 1 Stop. *** Exit 1 Stop. Yeun-Jung Wu yjwu@phys.sinica.edu.tw yjwu@unix.cie.rpi.edu b0190@ntou66.ntou.edu.tw
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: gross@stimpy.ame.nd.edu (George B. Ross) Subject: compiling GLE Graphics Package Message-ID: <1993Oct4.164333.29101@news.nd.edu> Sender: news@news.nd.edu (USENET News System) Organization: University of Notre Dame Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1993 16:43:33 GMT I've been trying to compile the GLE graphics package with little success. Has anyone successfully compiled this package. I'm working on black hardware with NS 3.2. The documentation is little help about specific UN*X platforms except for Sun machines. Any and all help would be greatly appreciated. -george +------- Stop it, you're talking crazy--Stimpson J. Cat -------+ | George B. Ross University of Notre Dame | | gross@stimpy.ame.nd.edu Aerospace and Mechanical Engineering | +--------------------- NeXT mail welcome ----------------------+
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: silbar@cantina.lanl.gov (Dick Silbar) Subject: Re: InTouch vs. SBook Message-ID: <1993Oct4.162354.7576@newshost.lanl.gov> Sender: news@newshost.lanl.gov Organization: Los Alamos National Lab References: <28hi6v$hq2@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1993 16:23:54 GMT In article <28hi6v$hq2@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> scwg0600@ih-nxt01.cso.uiuc.edu (Steven C Weintz) writes: > Hmm...I'd like to see more such comparisons, as a general thing. I like > NeXTWORLD's comparison articles, but they leave me hungry for more. There > does appear to be several niches in the NeXTSTEP app market that now have > several competing products, and it would also be good to get informed > comparisons with equivalent apps on other platforms. Bove and Rhodes' > articles are good in this regard. We need more, in print and on the Net. > Like, just as an example, how do WetPaint (which I'm partial to), TIFFany > 2, and ComposeInColor stack up to each other and to Photoshop? I have a subscription to NeXTWatch, which USED to do this sort of comparison. However, I have not received any issues of NeXTWatch since the February hardware announcement. -- Dick Silbar (NeXTMail OK) 505-667-5253
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Paul_Kunz@slac.stanford.edu (Paul Kunz) Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP WWW client? Message-ID: <CEDtJK.H2@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center References: <28n35j$c9t@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1993 16:52:31 GMT In article <28n35j$c9t@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> mycroft@monolith.utexas.edu (Alex Currier) writes: > I ftp'd WordWideWeb.app from the cern site and ran it... it gave me a dialogue > box saying "Can't find internet node name 'cernvax.cern.ch'." and when I hit > OK it quit without giving me a chance to select another www server. Unless > there is a dwrite for the www server or unless cernvax is just temporarily > offline this app appears to be useless. > cernvax.cern.ch was decomissioned a long time ago. There's a way around that problem but I forget how. The NeXT www browser does work once you get around it. Try posting to comp.infosystems.www to get the answer. -- Paul F. Kunz Paul_Kunz@slac.stanford.edu (NeXT mail ok) Stanford Linear Accelerator Center, Stanford University Voice: (415) 926-2884 (NeXT) Fax: (415) 926-3587
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: silbar@cantina.lanl.gov (Dick Silbar) Subject: Re: NEED WORD PROCESSOR NOW! (attn: RightBrain or anyone!) Message-ID: <1993Oct4.163845.10675@newshost.lanl.gov> Sender: news@newshost.lanl.gov Organization: Los Alamos National Lab References: <jeffo.749436472@uiuc.edu> Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1993 16:38:45 GMT In article <jeffo.749436472@uiuc.edu> jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) writes: > Gregory H. Anderson writes: > > >The only way Pages can be called "hot" is if you're using a stolen > >copy. Despite two months of NeXTWORLD ads stating otherwise, it's not > >shipping. > > Any idea on when it *will* ship? It's been vaporware for a couple of > years now, hasn't it? Perhaps someone from pages.com could let us > know what's up? > -- > J.B. Nicholson-Owens (No NeXTmail please) I certainly don't know when it will ship, but a sales rep was here two weeks ago demoing it for our User's Group. We were shocked to learn that the V1.0 which will ship will not be able to handle subscripts or superscripts! (And please remember that this sales rep knowingly came to visit what used to be known as the Los Alamos Scientific Laboratory.) Attn: Bruce Webster! Fix this!!! The inability to even write H2O has GOT to kill enormous segments of the market for your product. -- Dick Silbar (NeXTMail OK) 505-667-5253
From: perkins@sidney.cps.msu.edu (Stephen Perkins) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Portable Software Guidelines Date: 4 Oct 1993 19:33:07 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Distribution: world Message-ID: <28ptpj$khk@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> For some years I have been amazed at the amount of effort needed to make software (namely GNU stuff) run on many different platforms. For those about to embark on new software ventures, where might we go to learn about writing portable code? References to software engineering books are not exactly what I'm interested in. More to documents or tools that describe/use current techniques that help map between 16/32 bit machines, machine configurations, etc. Folks who work at GNU already have the knowledge that I seek. I'm hoping that its documented in some manner (for example lists of rules and guidelines of what and what not to do). Since I'm writing apps from the ground up, I would like to make sure that they compile and run on as many architectures (16 and 32 bit, big-endian and little-endian, etc...) with as little trouble as is possible. A trip to several bookstores only turned up one book that described specific techniques for writing "bug free" software. No books on techniques for writing portable code. Further, since I'm working on a NeXT, I'd like to take advantage of any tools/libraries that may make generating and checking "portable code" easier. Any thoughts about this would be sincerely apprecitaed. - Steve ==================================================================== Stephen Perkins | Department of Computer Science | perkins@cps.msu.edu Michigan State University |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: cew@quark.Stanford.EDU (Carlin E. Wiegner) Subject: shareware address book Message-ID: <1993Oct4.194140.4990@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: Stanford University Date: Mon, 4 Oct 93 19:41:40 GMT Are there any good personal address books (with a GUI) out there for the NeXT.... thanks.... CW Please email replies and I'll repost results... -- NewsGrazer, a NeXTstep(tm) news reader, posting -- M>UQR=&8P7&%N<VE[7&9O;G1T8FQ<9C!<9FUO9&5R;B!#;W5R:65R.WT*7&UA M<F=L,3(P"EQM87)G<C$R,`I<<&%R9%QT>#$Q-3)<='@R,S`T7'1X,S0U-EQT M>#0V,#A<='@U-S8P7'1X-CDQ,EQT>#@P-C1<='@Y,C$V7'1X,3`S-CA<='@Q M,34R,%QF,%QB,%QI,%QU;&YO;F5<9G,R-%QF8S!<8V8P($%R92!T:&5R92!A M;GD@9V]O9"!P97)S;VYA;"!A9&1R97-S(&)O;VMS("AW:71H(&$@1U5)*2!O M=70@=&AE<F4@9F]R('1H92!.95A4+BXN+EP*=&AA;FMS+BXN+EP*0U=<"EP* M4&QE87-E(&5M86EL(')E<&QI97,@86YD($DG;&P@<F5P;W-T(')E<W5L=',N %+BX*?0IE `
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: patt@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Sam Li) Subject: Warning for those who think Image! worths $99 Message-ID: <CEDpt3.I4q@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> Keywords: Image Sender: news@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (USENET News) Organization: Purdue University Distribution: usa Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1993 15:31:51 GMT For those of you who want to purchase Image for $99, here is my personal experience with the program: The program is so buggy that not even constantly halt the program, it actually constantly mess up the Workspace Manager and the system fonts!!!! After using for a few times, I didn't even risk my NS by trying to load up a 3 megs eps file( actually it takes the program 10 minutes to load up that file)! So for those of you who think the $99 price tag is attractive, watch out, I personally don't think the program worth $99 when it try to spread bugs around the workspace!! What do you think.Does anyone have the same problem? Sam. Can by reach at patt@sage.cc.purdue.edu $
From: mdd@zeke.Rockefeller.EDU (Mark D. Doyle) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: More ntpd questions (Or Bus error on ntp -F) Message-ID: <1993Oct4.151927.26085@rockyd.rockefeller.edu> Organization: Rockefeller University Date: Mon, 4 Oct 93 15:19:27 EDT Spurred on by recent posts about using ntpd to sync drifting clocks, I finally got around to doing it for my Turbo running 3.1. However, the clock doesn't seem to be getting synchronized automagically. I can set the clock as root using ntp -s, but ntp -F gives a bus error without adjusting the clock. Using the sync button in Preferences also gives a root error (probably just tries to do a ntp -F anyway). So, the question is, do I have to recompile ntpd so that it uses -s instead of -F so that my clock will sync automatically? Also, I can't seem to find error messages from ntpd that would tell me that I have bus errors. You would think they would go somewhere. Thanks, Mark Doyle mdd@zeke.rockefeller.edu
From: scwg0600@ih-nxt01.cso.uiuc.edu (Steven C Weintz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Page Layout under NeXTSTEP Date: 4 Oct 1993 23:26:26 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Distribution: world Message-ID: <28qbf2$s1h@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <jeffo.749682420@uiuc.edu> In article <jeffo.749682420@uiuc.edu> jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) writes: > I think it'll be some time before NS becomes a competitive DTP > platform. Unless your friends feel like waiting to see what AFS does > with PasteUp or Pages with Pages, I can't think of anything off the > top of my head for NS (besides TeX, of course) to do 40+ page > documents. My solution: e-mail Greg Anderson (Greg_Anderson@afs.com), the new owner of PasteUp, with your wish-list. I'm betting he's gonna come through! Best Regards, Steve Weintz scwg0600@sumter.cso.uiuc.edu Hi, Jeff!
From: scwg0600@ih-nxt01.cso.uiuc.edu (Steven C Weintz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Gopher, Mosaic, Archie, MAB Date: 4 Oct 1993 23:29:16 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Distribution: world Message-ID: <28qbkc$s84@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <qNTVac1w165w@mindvox.phantom.com> In article <qNTVac1w165w@mindvox.phantom.com> paulk@mindvox.phantom.com (Paul Kerrios) writes: > Are there MAB versions of any of the following usual internet tools that I > use on my Sun with X Windows, available under NeXTSTEP for intel? > > Gopher > Archie > WWW > WAIS > > and most of all > > MOSAIC > > > Any information or leads are appreciated. Loudly and lustily seconded. MORE COOL TOOLS! (Actually, the WWW folks got enough positive responses to build an NeXTSTEP update. Call or write!) Steve Weintz
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Portable Software Guidelines Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1993 19:21:08 -0400 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Chemistry, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Distribution: world Message-ID: <Agg_zYa00WB9BWCCN3@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <28ptpj$khk@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 4-Oct-93 Portable Software Guidelines by Stephen Perkins@sidney.c > For some years I have been amazed at the amount of effort needed to make > software (namely GNU stuff) run on many different platforms. For those > about to embark on new software ventures, where might we go to learn > about writing portable code? References to software engineering books > are not exactly what I'm interested in. More to documents or tools that > describe/use current techniques that help map between 16/32 bit > machines, machine configurations, etc. Folks who work at GNU already > have the knowledge that I seek. I'm hoping that its documented in some > manner (for example lists of rules and guidelines of what and what not > to do). Exactly. Check out the GNU program 'autoconf', which you can use to help automate the process of creating portable code. Also check out how autoconf is actually used for things like gcc or emacs, etc.... > Since I'm writing apps from the ground up, I would like to make sure > that they compile and run on as many architectures (16 and 32 bit, > big-endian and little-endian, etc...) with as little trouble as is > possible. A trip to several bookstores only turned up one book that > described specific techniques for writing "bug free" software. No books > on techniques for writing portable code. Further, since I'm working on > a NeXT, I'd like to take advantage of any tools/libraries that may make > generating and checking "portable code" easier. Many potential problems can be fixed by enabling '-Wall' and actually going through and fixing all of the errors. Things like pointer/integer arithmetic, or injudicious bitfield usage tend to not be portable. Don't try to be excessively clever with what you do; I've seen many examples of code that will not work without telling the compiler to handle misaligned accesses, writable string 'constants' and so forth. Good luck, -Chuck Charles William Swiger -- CMU...*crunch*! | 1. You can't fly. ------------------------------------------+ 2. Cars are always real, even AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | when they're not. Failing that: cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu | 3. Police are not your friends. NeXTmail: chuck@mon.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | 4. Fire burns.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: henry@trilithon.com (Henry McGilton) Subject: Re: Page Layout under NeXTSTEP Message-ID: <1993Oct4.195311.6751@trilithon.com> Sender: henry@trilithon.com Organization: Trilithon Software References: <jeffo.749682420@uiuc.edu> Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1993 19:53:11 GMT In article <jeffo.749682420@uiuc.edu> jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) writes: * I think it'll be some time before NS becomes a competitive * DTP platform. Unless your friends feel like waiting to * see what AFS does with PasteUp or Pages with Pages, I can't * think of anything off the top of my head for NS (besides * TeX, of course) to do 40+ page documents. I used TROFF for our book ``PostScript by Example''. ``PostScript by Example'' is 640 pages and includes just over 750 PostScript illustrations. I tried using Frame but quickly gave up. Just as a benchmark, the TROFF group of pre- and post-processors formats the 640 page book (it needs two passes to resolve page level cross references) in eleven minutes on a standard NeXT Station. Try that on your Mac with MS-Word. ........ Henry
From: scwg0600@ih-nxt01.cso.uiuc.edu (Steven C Weintz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP WWW client? Date: 4 Oct 1993 23:46:53 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Distribution: world Message-ID: <28qcld$b6@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <CEDtJK.H2@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU> In article <CEDtJK.H2@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU> Paul_Kunz@slac.stanford.edu (Paul Kunz) writes: > In article <28n35j$c9t@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> mycroft@monolith.utexas.edu > (Alex Currier) writes: > > I ftp'd WordWideWeb.app from the cern site and ran it... it gave me a > dialogue > > box saying "Can't find internet node name 'cernvax.cern.ch'." and when I > hit > > OK it quit without giving me a chance to select another www server. Unless > > there is a dwrite for the www server or unless cernvax is just temporarily > > offline this app appears to be useless. > > > cernvax.cern.ch was decomissioned a long time ago. There's a way around > that problem but I forget how. The NeXT www browser does work once you get > around it. Try posting to comp.infosystems.www to get the answer. Marco Scheurer [scheurer@lithnext.epfl.ch (NeXTMail)] nicely responded to my query about this last month. He said several people at CERN decided to upgrade the NeXTSTEP WWW browser, starting "sometime this month". Encouraging noises would probably be appreciated. Also, quoting Alan Braverman (alanb@ncsa.uiuc.edu), "There is a contributed (unsupported) NeXT version [of Mosaic] available on [the NCSA] ftp server: ftp.ncsa.uiuc.edu in /Mosaic/xmosaic-contrib Looks like the latest NeXT port is version 1.1, though." Regards, Steve Weintz scwg0600@sumter.cso.uiuc.edu
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: More ntpd questions (Or Bus error on ntp -F) Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1993 19:55:17 -0400 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Chemistry, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <Qgg=TZ_00WB9RWC2A_@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <1993Oct4.151927.26085@rockyd.rockefeller.edu> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 4-Oct-93 More ntpd questions (Or Bus.. by Mark D. Doyle@zeke.Rocke > Spurred on by recent posts about using ntpd to sync drifting clocks, I > finally got around to doing it for my Turbo running 3.1. However, the > clock doesn't seem to be getting synchronized automagically. I can > set the clock as root using ntp -s, but ntp -F gives a bus error without > adjusting the clock. Using the sync button in Preferences also gives a > root error (probably just tries to do a ntp -F anyway). So, the question > is, do I have to recompile ntpd so that it uses -s instead of -F so that > my clock will sync automatically? Also, I can't seem to find error > messages from ntpd that would tell me that I have bus errors. You would > think they would go somewhere. A 'bus error' means that the version of ntp you're running has crashed. If you're using the one that NeXT provides, you should send a bug report describing this to NeXT. I would suggest getting xntp3, which should be available from louie.udel.edu in /pub/ntp.... That site has much documentation on the issue of computerized timekeeping, and can answer questions better than I can. -Chuck Charles William Swiger -- CMU...*crunch*! | 1. You can't fly. ------------------------------------------+ 2. Cars are always real, even AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | when they're not. Failing that: cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu | 3. Police are not your friends. NeXTmail: chuck@mon.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | 4. Fire burns.
From: hal@alfred.econ.lsa.umich.edu (Hal Varian) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP WWW client? Date: 5 Oct 1993 00:07:58 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Distribution: world Message-ID: <28qdsu$60d@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu> References: <CEDtJK.H2@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU> <28qcld$b6@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> In article <28qcld$b6@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> scwg0600@sumter.cso.uiuc.edu writes: >Marco Scheurer [scheurer@lithnext.epfl.ch (NeXTMail)] nicely responded to >my query about this last month. He said several people at CERN decided to >upgrade the NeXTSTEP WWW browser, starting "sometime this month". >Encouraging noises would probably be appreciated. This is great news. >Also, quoting Alan Braverman (alanb@ncsa.uiuc.edu), > >"There is a contributed (unsupported) NeXT version [of Mosaic] available >on [the NCSA] ftp server: > > ftp.ncsa.uiuc.edu in /Mosaic/xmosaic-contrib > >Looks like the latest NeXT port is version 1.1, though." This is the version I compiled a few months ago. Version 1.1 compiles just fine, too. (You have to make one tiny change to correct a small glitch in the code.) However, please note that this is for X-windows only! (It runs fine under coXist.) -- Hal.Varian@umich.edu Hal Varian voice: 313-764-2364 Dept of Economics fax: 313-764-2364 Univ of Michigan Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1220
From: slv0y@cc.usu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Where do we get NEXT fonts now? Message-ID: <1993Oct4.170451.1433@cc.usu.edu> Date: 4 Oct 93 17:04:51 MDT Organization: Utah State University Now that RightBrain has closed up shop, where does a NEXTSTEP user go to get fonts? John Z. slv0y@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) Subject: Re: Where do we get NEXT fonts now? Message-ID: <1993Oct5.020833.26101@cs.yale.edu> Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News) Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT References: <1993Oct4.170451.1433@cc.usu.edu> Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1993 02:08:33 GMT In article <1993Oct4.170451.1433@cc.usu.edu> slv0y@cc.usu.edu writes: > > Now that RightBrain has closed up shop, where does a NEXTSTEP user go to get > fonts? I can't answer for the Adobe fonts, but we're very happy with the inexpensive fonts offered by this company: WSI-Fonts for NEXTSTEP #1 Abstract Software POB 25045 Seattle, WA 98125-1945 Voice: 206 361 5080 info@abstractsoft.com There are also free fonts on the archives. -- Nathan "USENET" Janette PPP link from hilbert.csb.yale.edu Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: netcom.com!kira!davidjohn (David John Burrowes) Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP for PPC? Message-ID: <1993Oct5.014342.423@kira.net.netcom.com> Sender: davidjohn@kira.net.netcom.com Organization: No organization at this time. References: <28i5tb$amk@uc.msc.edu> Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1993 01:43:42 GMT In article <28i5tb$amk@uc.msc.edu> alk@et.msc.edu (Anthony L. Kimball) writes: > A Wizard of Earth C (terry@cs.weber.edu) wrote: > : You are deluded if you believe NeXTStep will be able to compete with the > : projected NT street price of $65-$85 while carrying Adobe DPS licensing > : around on its back. > > : Yes, DPS is incredible, but it will never be a player in the commodity > : market unless Adobe is willing to trade their 100% of 1% for 90% of 60% > : and lower the end user costs. They've shown no signs of this. > > Damn straight. Next should awake, and build their own DPS system on > top of ghostscript/ghostiview. Unless my memory is mistaken (or, more likely, the world has changed), wasn't the Object DBMS that NeXT is going to replace their filesystem with just the Versant Object DBMS repackaged a bit? Aren't they paying some kinda liscencing for the BSD portions of their OS? This is to say, I doubt it is just Adobe that is adding price to our fine OS. \david john burrowes davidjohn@kira.net.netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.protocols.ppp From: alastair@farli.otago.ac.nz (Alastair Thomson) Subject: Dialup PPP Message-ID: <CEEMHC.G0t@news.otago.ac.nz> Sender: usenet@news.otago.ac.nz (News stuff) Organization: University of Otago Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1993 03:17:36 GMT Hi there, Is there somewhere I can get dialup PPP for NeXT in source form? I have one version for Solaris, but if I can avoid porting it I will. Thanks Alastair -- Alastair Thomson, | Phone +64-3-479-8347 Chief Programmer, Black Albatross, | Fax +64-3-479-8529 Department of Computer Science, | University of Otago, | alastair@farli.otago.ac.nz Dunedin, New Zealand | NeXTmail Welcome
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) Subject: Re: Gopher, Mosaic, Archie, MAB Message-ID: <1993Oct5.042220.25594@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: Stanford University References: <28qbkc$s84@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Date: Tue, 5 Oct 93 04:22:20 GMT Steven C Weintz writes > (Actually, the WWW folks got enough positive responses to build an > NeXTSTEP update. Call or write!) Is this recent? Last I heard from them (a few months back) they were looking for someone to take over the NeXTSTEP frontend for WWW. Very sad, considering WWW was created on a NeXT. It'd be great news if an updated version of the current (version 0.16, would you believe) NeXTSTEP WWW browser was in the works. -- - Stefano Pagiola Food Research Institute, Stanford University spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged) spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Quick Guide to the comp.sys.next.* newsgroups Date: 5 Oct 1993 00:01:26 -0400 Organization: Next Announcements Message-ID: <28qrik$2q5@digifix.digifix.com> The current menagerie: comp.sys.next.advocacy This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. comp.sys.next.announce Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) The NEXTSTEP FAQs are posted here monthly as well. This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. comp.sys.next.bugs A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well. comp.sys.next.hardware Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. comp.sys.next.marketplace NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. comp.sys.next.misc For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! comp.sys.next.programmer Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. The NEXTSTEP programmer FAQs are posted here. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. comp.sys.next.software This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. comp.sys.next.sysadmin Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. related Newsgroups comp.soft-sys.nextstep Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. comp.lang.objective-c Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. comp.object Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Written by: Eric P. Scott eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU Minor editing: Scott Anguish Additions from: Greg Anderson (Greg_Anderson@afs.com) and Michael Pizolato (Michael_Pizolato@afs.com)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.protocols.ppp From: ggerard@Alex.Engr.Trinity.Edu (Greg Gerard) Subject: From NIS to NetInfo: Pointers needed for NeXTSTEP junkie, SunOS sysad Message-ID: <1993Oct5.035221.10632@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> Sender: news@ringer.cs.utsa.edu Organization: Trinity University, San Antonio TX. USA References: <CEEMHC.G0t@news.otago.ac.nz> Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1993 03:52:21 GMT Where would be a good place to get started in looking into the entrails of NetInfo? I have browsed the man pages, but from what I've found, they're designed for the NetInfo guru, not rookie. Also, what files are really used by NS? (eg, it ignores my entries into the /etc/fstab file and several others.) Also, how does one add a user via the command line or a large list of users? I love the UserManager for adding one user at a time, but when adding anything above 10, it gets stale. My scripts under SunOS handled this, but I dare not start messing about with things until I know something about that with which I muck. greg
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson) Subject: ISV Health, Part 2 (was Re: shareware address book) Message-ID: <1993Oct5.025357.4439@afs.com> Sender: greg@afs.com References: <1993Oct4.194140.4990@leland.Stanford.EDU> Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1993 02:53:57 GMT >In article <1993Oct4.194140.4990@leland.Stanford.EDU> >cew@quark.Stanford.EDU (Carlin E. Wiegner) writes: >Are there any good personal address books (with a GUI) out there for the >NeXT....thanks.... In the following gripe, I don't mean to pick on you personally, Carlin. But your post is one of several like it that I've read recently, and I feel compelled to comment. There are two commercial products for this purpose--SBook and InTouch-- that are priced reasonably, particularly for academic users (assuming you qualify as such). For two weeks, I've been reading outraged articles about the sick health of the NeXT ISV market, and how IT'S ALL NEXT'S FAULT, AND WE SHOULDN'T STAND FOR IT, AND BLAH, BLAH, BLAH. So what do we get: "Does anyone know where I can find some free software?" In this instance, there is no lack of capable, reasonably priced commercial software. Why won't you *buy* it? The community is going to get the kind of ISV market it deserves. If you're not willing to support them (oops, I guess it's "us" now), don't complain when we disappear. -- Gregory H. Anderson | "History is the fiction we invent to Revisionist Autobiographer | persuade ourselves that events are Anderson Financial Systems | knowable and that life has order and greg@afs.com (NeXTmail OK) | direction." -- Calvin & Hobbes, 7/19/93
From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Page Layout under NeXTSTEP Date: 5 Oct 93 05:16:41 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <jeffo.749798201@uiuc.edu> References: <jeffo.749682420@uiuc.edu> <1993Oct4.195311.6751@trilithon.com> Henry McGilton writes: >I used TROFF for our book ``PostScript by Example''. [..] >Just as a benchmark, the TROFF group of pre- and post-processors >formats the 640 page book (it needs two passes to resolve page level >cross references) in eleven minutes on a standard NeXT Station. Try >that on your Mac with MS-Word. Try what on a Mac with MS-Word? Try formatting the TROFF code for your book in under 11 minutes? I doubt it would be able to make head or tail of a single line of the code. Try to use only MS-Word/Mac as the sole DTP app for your book? I'd rather not, nor would I recommend using it to others in your position. It would probably have trouble doing heavy cross-referencing and (possibly trouble with) heavy use of PS graphic examples. But then again, I would never pick a relatively lightweight app such as MS-Word/Mac to do the job of handling the data in your book. I would probably pick Frame. You said Frame wasn't to your liking, so you found something that worked for you. Since I don't use TROFF for my DTP work, I don't know if 11 minutes is a good length of time to make the two passes you required for your book or not. Although the data you provide is a good point for comparing TROFF execution speeds for your data, I don't understand how that figure comes into play in this particular thread. The original question seemed to me to ask what [GUI--explained below] options are available for DTP work on NS. Taking a look at the question that started this thread: Andrew Abernathy wrote: > Some friends of mine were hoping to build a business doing desktop > publishing on NeXTSTEP. They would be basically laying out > magazines (40+ pages, I think) - beyond that I'm not sure what > they need, though I do know they would like color separaton. > > The initial plan was to use PasteUp or Pages. Pages continues > to slip and PasteUp has turned out not to be up to the job. They > have Virtuoso and love it, but it doesn't do multiple-page layout > and looks unlikely to soon. > > The question comes down to this: is there someone out there > doing serious page layout under NeXTSTEP who can recommend tools > that can handle this type of work? They are rapidly approaching > the point where they have to make a decision as to whether or > not to roceed, and the way things are right now, they would have > to not continue, so any help would be greatly appreciated! I get the feeling that one of the criteria for an applicable application was that it had a GUI. I get that feeling because all the choices mentioned are GUI apps. I also imagine more people would choose to layout a magazine and deal with color seperation in an environment where they can see what's going on at each step in the process. TROFF might be perfectly capable of filling the bill if these folks were to learn how to use TROFF commands, but I don't think it's too much to imply that TROFF would probably not be what's called for to solve this particular problem. You didn't mention how long it took you to learn TROFF, how intuitive you found TROFF's functions or how TROFF handled the color seperation for your book (if any was needed). Perhaps this information would be of more assistance to Andrew Abernathy's friends. -- J.B. Nicholson-Owens (ASCII mail only)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) Subject: Re: gzip...? Message-ID: <1993Oct5.064304.10263@csus.edu> Sender: news@csus.edu Organization: San Francisco State University References: <1993Oct1.172709.8937@ximage.com> Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1993 06:43:04 GMT In article <1993Oct1.172709.8937@ximage.com> jag@ximage.com (Jagdish Narasimhan) writes: >Will some kind soul point me in the direction of the archives that has >gunzip ? Sources are available from prep.ai.mit.edu:pub/gnu/gzip-1.2.4.tar (and various mirror sites worldwide) 1.2.4 is the first release that doesn't require brain surgery to compile properly under NEXTSTEP. Try: setenv DEFS -bsd setenv G g configure make next -or- make next-fat Executables for "Black Hardware" running NS 2.1 or later are available from sutro.sfsu.edu:pub/gzip-1.2.4-bin.tar.Z All users with older versions should upgrade. -=EPS=-
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: alberto@parsec.mixcom.com (Manuel Alberto Ricart) Subject: Re: InTouch vs. SBook Message-ID: <1993Oct5.042531.1259@parsec.mixcom.com> Sender: alberto@parsec.mixcom.com Organization: SmartSoft, Inc. References: <1993Oct3.154043.1463@next.cambridge.ma.us> Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1993 04:25:31 GMT In article <1993Oct3.154043.1463@next.cambridge.ma.us> simsong@next.cambridge.ma.us (Simson L. Garfinkel) writes: (Correction regarding my presumption on how SBook plays sounds - DELETED) (Tidbit on how SBook can export fax numbers to the fax database - ZAPPED) Simson, I am apologize to have envisaged the notion that YourBook played the DSP. I must have been hallucinating about some original InTouch feature now forever lost in our time continuum. Perhaps the 210 hour-long work weeks spent working on InTouch had something to do with it. Humans have been known NOT to need virtual reality apparatus after long periods of stress for self amusement. (I think I'll be back to normal soon, I just heard something great: plop, plop, fizz, fizz). =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+CUT HERE=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+ /* Save as my.score - This WILL play on your DSP with /usr/bin/playscore */ info samplingRate:44100.00, tempo:3000; part low; low synthPatchCount:1, synthPatch:"Simp"; part high; high synthPatchCount:1, synthPatch:"Simp"; BEGIN; t 0; /* Hello? Whom do you wish to call? - Hello? (the Kinks) */ low (500) freq:350.00, amp:-15dB; high (500) freq:440.00, amp:-15dB; END; /* (Back to billable time) */ =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+CUT HERE=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+ -- --- Alberto Ricart SmartSoft, Inc. 2220 E. Linnwood Avenue, Milwaukee, WI 53211-3321
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: westner@cezanne.pst.informatik.uni-muenchen.de (Dominik Westner) Subject: Re: InTouch vs. SBook Sender: news@informatik.uni-muenchen.de (News System) Message-ID: <CEFBIL.GGu@informatik.uni-muenchen.de> Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1993 12:18:20 GMT References: <1993Oct1.134757.2554@next.cambridge.ma.us> Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Universitaet Muenchen In article <1993Oct1.134757.2554@next.cambridge.ma.us> simsong@next.cambridge.ma.us (Simson L. Garfinkel) writes: > Could somebody please post a comparison of the features in InTouch vs. those in > SBook? I tried using InTouch and have some thoughts about what it is doing, > but as I'm a little biased on this matter, I would rather hear what other > people have to say. > > Thanks. > > -Simson Garfinkel > -- > > .................................................................simson I just was playing around with SBook today and I had a hard time to import my system address book. I didn t find a way to do it without spending some time. As far as I know InTouch works fine with the system addresses. Or did I just got something wrong? -- --- Dominik Westner "Everything is possible in an infinite universe" ______________________________________________________Willi, the painter Dominik Westner Muenchen-Germany HOME: dominik@blackmagic.guug.de [NeXTMail welcome] UNI: westner@informatik.uni-muenchen.de [NeXTMail welcome]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.protocols.ppp From: jq@phcs.com (Jim Quick) Subject: Re: From NIS to NetInfo: Pointers needed for NeXTSTEP junkie, SunOS sysad Message-ID: <CEFB9n.K84@phcs.com> Organization: Private Healthcare Systems, Inc References: <CEEMHC.G0t@news.otago.ac.nz> <1993Oct5.035221.10632@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1993 12:12:59 GMT In article <1993Oct5.035221.10632@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> ggerard@Alex.Engr.Trinity.Edu (Greg Gerard) writes: >Where would be a good place to get started in looking into the entrails of >NetInfo? I have browsed the man pages, but from what I've found, they're >designed for the NetInfo guru, not rookie. Also, what files are really >used by NS? (eg, it ignores my entries into the /etc/fstab file and several >others.) > >Also, how does one add a user via the command line or a large list of users? >I love the UserManager for adding one user at a time, but when adding anything >above 10, it gets stale. My scripts under SunOS handled this, but I dare not >start messing about with things until I know something about that with which >I muck. > >greg Read the man pages for nidump and niload. niload can be used to commit batches of changes to any of the following: aliases bootptab bootparams exports fstab group hosts networks passwd printcap protocols rpc services For adminsistrators of a mixed net this also enables porting the old textual definitions to a NeXT then running niload TYPE / or niload -d /. For those who prefer doing all but batch changes in Netinfo tools an nidump has the benefit of providing text backup of configuration changes, and NeXT naive unix users can grep for what they need to know about a host. -- ___ ___ mail: uunet!phcs!jq PHCS, Inc. Advanced Technology Group / / / or jq@phcs.com It's spelled "Luxury Yacht", but it's \_/ (_\/ Fax: (617) 863-8575 pronounced "Throat-Warbler Mangrove". ) Voice: (617) 861-5579 NeXTMail O.K.
From: perkins@sidney.cps.msu.edu (Stephen Perkins) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: M4 Macro Processor Date: 5 Oct 1993 13:31:27 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Distribution: world Message-ID: <28rsvf$hco@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> Has anybody successfully compiled the latest version of GNU's M4 macro processor (version m4-1.0.3 I think)? I downloaded it, but couldn't get it to compile. I did run the checks that came with this version using NeXT's m4, but many tests failed. Regards, Steve ==================================================================== Stephen Perkins | Department of Computer Science | perkins@cps.msu.edu Michigan State University |
From: ray@mayo.edu (Ray Ghanbari) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: From NIS to NetInfo: Pointers needed for NeXTSTEP junkie, SunOS sysad Date: 5 Oct 1993 13:45:05 GMT Organization: Mayo Foundation Message-ID: <28rtp1$qaj@fermat.mayo.edu> References: <1993Oct5.035221.10632@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> In article <1993Oct5.035221.10632@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> ggerard@Alex.Engr.Trinity.Edu (Greg Gerard) writes: > Where would be a good place to get started in looking into the entrails of > NetInfo? I have browsed the man pages, but from what I've found, they're > designed for the NetInfo guru, not rookie. Also, what files are really > used by NS? (eg, it ignores my entries into the /etc/fstab file and several > others.) > [...] > greg I suggest grabbing the Summer '93 issue of NEXTSTEP InFocus from ftp.next.com. There is a _very_ nice discussion of the innards of netinfo and how it really works. -- Ray Ghanbari Mayo Foundation ray@mayo.edu
From: neuss@igd.fhg.de (Christian Neuss ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP WWW client? Date: 5 Oct 93 13:49:28 GMT Organization: IGD Darmstadt Message-ID: <neuss.749828968@ramazzotti> References: <28m01u$rsu@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> mycroft@monolith.utexas.edu (Alex Currier) writes: >Just the other day I saw a very nice WWW client for Macintosh written by the >folks at NCSA. The phrase that leaps to mind is "ultimate Net surfboard". For >those who haven't seen WWW it's kinda like gopher but full hypertext with >embedded pictures, sounds, quicktime movies and the like. No cryptic commands >and no hierarchical menu structures to browse through. Information >practically flows out of it. I want this for NeXTSTEP. Does such a thing >exist yet or am I going to have to take a crash course in NS development >and do it myself? As always, your help and/or flames are greatly appreciated. Yuh.. WWW is the hottest thing since sliced bread... Unfortunately, the NeXT browser is kinda old and lacks too many features. Especially the multimedia extensions to www become kinda popular. Hopefully, somebodys gonna come up with a NeXT browser soon.. until then, the best way to go is IMHO using xmosaic (you can get a NeXT compiled binary from ftp.ncsa.uiuc.edu) and running it under an X emulation like CoXist for example. Hope that helps, Chris /* * Christian Neuss % neuss@igd.fhg.de % ..in the humdrum */
From: brunkhorst@mayo.edu (Geoff Brunkhorst) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Gopher, Mosaic, Archie, MAB Date: 5 Oct 1993 14:21:02 GMT Organization: Mayo Foundation Distribution: world Message-ID: <28rvse$qtb@fermat.mayo.edu> References: <1993Oct5.042220.25594@leland.Stanford.EDU> In article <1993Oct5.042220.25594@leland.Stanford.EDU> spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) writes: > Steven C Weintz writes > > (Actually, the WWW folks got enough positive responses to build an > > NeXTSTEP update. Call or write!) > > Is this recent? Last I heard from them (a few months back) they were > looking for someone to take over the NeXTSTEP frontend for WWW. Very > sad, considering WWW was created on a NeXT. It'd be great news if an > updated version of the current (version 0.16, would you believe) > NeXTSTEP WWW browser was in the works. I have just played with a buggy 1.00 version. Does gopher and ftp but dies a lot and corrupts documents in edit mode... ;-( It has hope, but I haven't seen a MAB or a less buggy version of this... -- - Geoff ----------------------------------------------------------------- Geoffrey Brunkhorst brunkhorst@Mayo.edu Research Computing Facility, Guggenheim 10 (507) 284-1805 Mayo Foundation, Rochester MN, 55905, USA fax (507) 284-5231
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: kent@infoserv.com Subject: Re: gzip...? Message-ID: <CEEoyn.13E@infoserv.com> Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard) Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting References: <1993Oct1.172709.8937@ximage.com> Distribution: na Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1993 04:11:10 GMT In article <1993Oct1.172709.8937@ximage.com> jag@seguente (Jagdish Narasimhan) writes: #Hi: #Will some kind soul point me in the direction of the archives that has #gunzip ? # Can't tell you where it is except to check the NeXT 3.1 distribution. I was suprised to find gzip, gunzip, gnutar, gzcat, gzexe in /usr/bin. Kent -- /* K.L. Shephard Consulting is my company. Infoserv only delivers my mail. */ /* Please direct mail to kent@infoserv.com other adresses may not work. */
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: willers@itp.unibe.ch (Moritz Willers) Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP WWW client? Message-ID: <1993Oct5.143507.20612@aragorn.unibe.ch> Sender: news@aragorn.unibe.ch Organization: University of Berne, Switzerland References: <1993Oct3.170528.5546@leland.Stanford.EDU> Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1993 14:35:07 GMT In article <1993Oct3.170528.5546@leland.Stanford.EDU> spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) writes: [...] > There is a WWW "browser" for NeXTSTEP. In fact, the WWW itself was > originally designed on NeXTs, at CERN in Switzerland. Problem is, > there are few NeXTs around, so most of the work has moved on to other > platforms. The current NS WWW browser (version 0.16, I believe) is > pretty ancient compared to things like Mosaic available on other > platforms. I've got a version 1.0 alpha only (a test version) which is stable, requires NS 3.0 and produces an awful lot of windows. Nevertheless I was able to impress a Sun user with it. > I believe you can get the NS WWW browser from > info.cern.ch in /hypertext/WWW/Clients. I'm sorry but I don't remember where I got it. Maybe there as well. My WWW is called 'WorldWideWeb.app' [...] > - > Stefano Pagiola In article <28qcld$b6@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> scwg0600@ih-nxt01.cso.uiuc.edu (Steven C Weintz) writes: [..] > > Marco Scheurer [scheurer@lithnext.epfl.ch (NeXTMail)] nicely responded to > my query about this last month. He said several people at CERN decided to > upgrade the NeXTSTEP WWW browser, starting "sometime this month". > Encouraging noises would probably be appreciated. yes do so, please !!! [...] > Regards, Steve Weintz > scwg0600@sumter.cso.uiuc.edu -- Moritz Willers Institute for Theoretical Physics, Berne Switzerland willers@itp.unibe.ch
From: unsal@blackbox.cl.ee.vt.edu (Cem Unsal) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: REQUEST: listserv for NS 3.0 Date: 5 Oct 1993 16:48:03 GMT Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia Message-ID: <28s8g3$q75@vtserf.cc.vt.edu> Hi; Does anyone have a listserv program compiled on NS 3.0? Can you send it to me? (I couldn't compile what i've found on ftp sites.) Cem Unsal -- unsal@blackbox.cl.ee.vt.edu (NeXTmail OK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: henry@trilithon.com (Henry McGilton) Subject: Re: Where do we get NEXT fonts now? Message-ID: <1993Oct5.162344.8449@trilithon.com> Sender: henry@trilithon.com Organization: Trilithon Software References: <1993Oct4.170451.1433@cc.usu.edu> Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1993 16:23:44 GMT In article <1993Oct4.170451.1433@cc.usu.edu> slv0y@cc.usu.edu writes: * Now that RightBrain has closed up shop, where does a NEXTSTEP * user go to get fonts? While the interregnum on Adobe fonts lasts, be aware that we (Trilithon Software) provide Mac to NEXTSTEP and PC (PFB) to NEXTSTEP conversion and installtion tools, and we also offer a font conversion service. E-mail to info@trilithon.com for details. ........ Henry
From: t9116ts@tech.mis.cfc.com (Todd M. Swan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Any success compiling unix software under NS 3.1/intel? Date: 4 Oct 93 15:38:54 Organization: Chrysler Financial, MIS, Center Line, MI Message-ID: <T9116TS.93Oct4153854@litespeed.tech.mis.cfc.com> References: <1993Sep30.030427.27342@cs.cornell.edu> In-reply-to: bau@cs.cornell.edu's message of Thu, 30 Sep 1993 03:04:27 GMT In article <1993Sep30.030427.27342@cs.cornell.edu>, bau@cs.cornell.edu (David Bau) writes: >How much success have other people had in compiling unix software >for Nextstep 3.1 intel? I have heard that Nextstep is supposed to >be standard enough unix that I should have no trouble compiling >most unix programs for it, but I'm having trouble. > >Has anybody compiled: >tcsh, gnu tar, gnu zip, bison, flex... etc under 3.1? > >For the time being, I especially miss tcsh (although i realize the >next csh has some tcsh features). > >Well, at least we have emacs (although stuck in a single window). I've compiled all these things without much difficulty. 'tcsh' tells you in one of the READMEs how to compile for NeXT. (It used a mach file and a next file, if I remember right.) If there are no NeXT specifice instruction included try using a generic BSD4.3 build. Also, most of the GNU stuff has a very smart config script that will figure out a lot of things for you. Todd -- Todd M. Swan - tms@cfc.com - Chrysler Financial, Center Line, MI Member - SPWWLSSURLA and BTBS - Disclaimer: "I said it, not CFC." "If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice" - Rush
From: jmf@strings4 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Any success compiling unix software under NS 3.1/intel? Date: 06 Oct 93 00:37:56 Organization: Queen Mary & Westfield College, London, UK Distribution: fj Message-ID: <jmf.93Oct603756@strings4> References: <1993Sep30.030427.27342@cs.cornell.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/richtext <nl> <f0>> How much success have other people had in compiling unix software <nl> <f0>> for Nextstep 3.1 intel? I have heard that Nextstep is supposed to <nl> <f0>> be standard enough unix that I should have no trouble compiling <nl> <f0>> most unix programs for it, but I'm having trouble. <nl> <nl> <f0>> Has anybody compiled: <nl> <f0>> tcsh, gnu tar, gnu zip, bison, flex... etc under 3.1? <nl> <nl> <f0>> For the time being, I especially miss tcsh (although i realize the <nl> <f0>> next csh has some tcsh features). <nl> <nl> <f0>> Well, at least we have emacs (although stuck in a single window). <nl> <nl> <f0> Have you tried Emacs.app in cs.orst.edu??? <nl> <f0> It compiled fine in NS/intel and you can even make <nl> <f0> Emacs the default editor ! <nl> <f0>> David <nl> <nl> <f0>- jose <nl> <nl> <nl> <nl> <nl> <nl> <nl>
From: perkins@sidney.cps.msu.edu (Stephen Perkins) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: M4 Macro Processor Date: 6 Oct 1993 00:40:58 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Distribution: world Message-ID: <28t46q$10vj@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> References: <28rsvf$hco@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> In article <28rsvf$hco@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> perkins@sidney.cps.msu.edu (Stephen Perkins) writes: > > > Has anybody successfully compiled the latest version of GNU's M4 > macro processor (version m4-1.0.3 I think)? I downloaded it, but > couldn't get it to compile. I did run the checks that came with > this version using NeXT's m4, but many tests failed. > It turns out that the solution (specifically if running 3.1 on black) is to compile with the compiler argument: -traditional-cpp More specifically (if anybody plans to build it), this will work: ./configure make CFLAGS=-traditional-cpp Regards, Steve
From: xepo@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Scott R Violet) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Game Request - Poker or Blackjack Date: 6 Oct 1993 02:37:48 GMT Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee Message-ID: <28tb1sINN8ti@uwm.edu> References: <1993Oct1.161818.1460@weston.com> In article <1993Oct1.161818.1460@weston.com> jspears@weston.com writes: >I would like a NeXTSTEP poker or blackjack game. I checked the archives, >but I could find nothing. Well, I don't know where to find one, but if we are on the wish list thing I would like to see Mah Jong available (not the tile matching one but the poker like version). Better yet, if some one fully understands how to play and wouldn't mind explaining it to me I just might be able to make my own. -- -Scott Violet (xepo@csd4.csd.uwm.edu)
From: mconners@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael R Conners) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.protocols.ppp Subject: Re: Dialup PPP Date: 6 Oct 1993 03:48:48 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <28tf70$srm@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> References: <CEEMHC.G0t@news.otago.ac.nz> In article <CEEMHC.G0t@news.otago.ac.nz> alastair@farli.otago.ac.nz writes: >Hi there, >Is there somewhere I can get dialup PPP for NeXT in source form? I >have one version for Solaris, but if I can avoid porting it I will. > >Thanks >Alastair >-- >Alastair Thomson, | Phone +64-3-479-8347 >Chief Programmer, Black Albatross, | Fax +64-3-479-8529 >Department of Computer Science, | >University of Otago, | alastair@farli.otago.ac.nz >Dunedin, New Zealand | NeXTmail Welcome > Yep- MorningStar PPP. I've got it for my NeXT and it's great. Does SLIP too. marketing@morningstar.com. -- *** Michael Conners - THE Ohio State University *** ** Compare and Contrast: ** Carter Administration Clinton Administration - Elvis dead - Barbra Streisand all too lively
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) Subject: Re: gzip...? Message-ID: <1993Oct6.043348.28438@csus.edu> Sender: news@csus.edu Organization: San Francisco State University References: <1993Oct1.172709.8937@ximage.com> <CEEoyn.13E@infoserv.com> Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1993 04:33:48 GMT In article <CEEoyn.13E@infoserv.com> kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard) writes: >Can't tell you where it is except to check the NeXT 3.1 distribution. >I was suprised to find gzip, gunzip, gnutar, gzcat, gzexe in /usr/bin. These are ancient, buggy versions. NeXT knew this when they froze 3.1. Everyone should upgrade to 1.2.4. -=EPS=- -- It turns out that files for which compress outperforms gzip are actually quite common. The official documentation for the latest version of gzip finally admits that gzip isn't all some people have tried to make it out to be.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: vince@sisystems.com (Vince DeMarco) Subject: Re: M4 Macro Processor In-Reply-To: perkins@sidney.cps.msu.edu's message of 5 Oct 1993 13:31:27 GMT Message-ID: <VINCE.93Oct5205908@pacific.sisystems.com> Sender: news@sisystems.com Organization: SI Systems Ltd References: <28rsvf$hco@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1993 02:59:08 GMT >>>>> On 5 Oct 1993 13:31:27 GMT, perkins@sidney.cps.msu.edu (Stephen Perkins) said: Stephen> NNTP-Posting-Host: sidney.cps.msu.edu Stephen> Has anybody successfully compiled the latest version of GNU's M4 macro Stephen> processor (version m4-1.0.3 I think)? I downloaded it, but couldn't get Stephen> it to compile. I did run the checks that came with this version using Stephen> NeXT's m4, but many tests failed. I have GNU m4 installed on my machine. I installed it on my machine so i could upgrade to sendmail 8.7beta. All you need to do is make sure non of the posix stuff gets included into the source for example unistd.h dirent.h vince
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: vince@sisystems.com (Vince DeMarco) Subject: Re: gzip...? In-Reply-To: kent@infoserv.com's message of Tue, 5 Oct 1993 04:11:10 GMT Message-ID: <VINCE.93Oct5210034@pacific.sisystems.com> Sender: news@sisystems.com Organization: SI Systems Ltd References: <1993Oct1.172709.8937@ximage.com> <CEEoyn.13E@infoserv.com> Distribution: na Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1993 03:00:34 GMT >>>>> On Tue, 5 Oct 1993 04:11:10 GMT, kent@infoserv.com said: kent> In article <1993Oct1.172709.8937@ximage.com> jag@seguente (Jagdish Narasimhan) kent> writes: kent> #Hi: kent> #Will some kind soul point me in the direction of the archives that has kent> #gunzip ? kent> # kent> Can't tell you where it is except to check the NeXT 3.1 distribution. kent> I was suprised to find gzip, gunzip, gnutar, gzcat, gzexe in /usr/bin. The problem is that NeXT is shipping an ancient version of gzip. Get the latest from prep.ai.mit.edu:/pub/gnu/gzip-1.2.4.tar.gz /pub/gnu/gzip-1.2.4.tar /pub/gnu/gzip-1.2.4.shar vince
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: irving@Happy-Man.com (Irving_Wolfe) Subject: Re: Anybody using a different version of cron? Message-ID: <1993Oct6.050332.21318@Happy-Man.com> Keywords: cron, crontab Organization: Happy Man Corp, 4410 Pt Robinson, Vashon, WA 98070 206/463-9399 References: <28g3mo$rcl@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1993 05:03:32 GMT In <28g3mo$rcl@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> perkins@sidney.cps.msu.edu (Stephen Perkins) writes: >I'm rather disappointed with the cron/crontab that is available on the >NeXT. Normal users (i.e. not root) have no way to make things happen Paul Vixie wrote a very nice crontab replacement that we've been using successfully here for over a year. His latest version is somewhere on gatekeeper.dec.com and I uploaded an earlier version, with changes for Nextstep, to the Purdue archive about a year ago. -- Irving_Wolfe@Happy-Man.com 206/463-9399 x101 fax 206/463-9255 Happy Man Corp. 4410 SW Pt. Robinson Rd., Vashon, WA 98070-7399 We publish SOLID VALUE for the intelligent investor. NextMail OK Info. packet free. Send POSTAL address: Solid-Value@Happy-Man.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jmack@skye.phys.ualberta.ca Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP WWW client? Message-ID: <1993Oct6.071016.15913@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> Keywords: WorldWideWeb Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada References: <CEDtJK.H2@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU> Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1993 07:10:16 GMT In article <CEDtJK.H2@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU> Paul_Kunz@slac.stanford.edu (Paul Kunz) writes: > In article <28n35j$c9t@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> mycroft@monolith.utexas.edu > (Alex Currier) writes: > > I ftp'd WordWideWeb.app from the cern site and ran it... it gave me a > dialogue > > box saying "Can't find internet node name 'cernvax.cern.ch'." and when I > hit > > OK it quit without giving me a chance to select another www server. Unless > > there is a dwrite for the www server or unless cernvax is just temporarily > > offline this app appears to be useless. > > > cernvax.cern.ch was decomissioned a long time ago. There's a way around > that problem but I forget how. The NeXT www browser does work once you get > around it. Try posting to comp.infosystems.www to get the answer. > -- > Paul F. Kunz Paul_Kunz@slac.stanford.edu (NeXT mail ok) > Stanford Linear Accelerator Center, Stanford University > Voice: (415) 926-2884 (NeXT) Fax: (415) 926-3587 check the file WorldWideWeb.app/default.html (editable default home page) If 'cernvax.cern.ch' is listed there, change all ocurrances to 'info.cern.ch' or better yet, use this one (since the old default file may not have the current file-link hierarchy): ---- WorldWideWeb.app/default.html ------ <title>Overview of the Web</title> <h1>General Overview</h1> There is no "top" to the World-Wide Web. You can look at it from many points of view. If you have no other bias, here are some ways of looking for information. <DL> <DT><a href="http://info.cern.ch/hypertext/DataSources/Overview.html">by Subject</a> <DD>A classification by subject of interest. Incomplete but easiest to use. <DT><a href="http://info.cern.ch/hypertext/DataSources/ByAccess.html">by Type</a> <DD>Looking by type of service (access protocol, etc) may allow to find things if you know what you are looking for. </DL> If you have to use a "top" node, we recommend either this node or the subject list. See also: <a href="http://info.cern.ch/hypertext/WWW/TheProject.html">About the W3 project</a>. -------------------- Do a ping on info.cern.ch to see if it's up. (right now it ain't), but I do know that info.cern.ch is a functioning server, since we have a link to it from our W3 daemon server. -- James S. MacKinnon Office: P-139 Avahd-Bhatia Physics Lab Computing/Networking Phone : (403) 492-8226 Department of Physics email : jmack@phys.ualberta.ca University of Alberta uucp : uofaphys!jmack iskye!jmack Edmonton, Canada T6G 2N5 bitnet: jmack@triumfcl jsm1@ualtamts
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore) Subject: Re: InTouch vs. SBook Message-ID: <CEFFn5.43E@genoa.com> Sender: alex@genoa.com (Alex Blakemore) Organization: Genoa Software Systems References: <CEFBIL.GGu@informatik.uni-muenchen.de> Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1993 13:47:28 GMT Dominik Westner writes > I just was playing around with SBook today and I had a hard time to import > my system address book. I didn t find a way to do it without spending some > time. its a little easier if you generate an ascii file from the .addresses book (using the contents inspector). you can edit the template to get rid of extra space etc, generate the file, convert it to ascii. then its easier to get into SBook, but I still wasnt able to make it fully automated. -- Alex Blakemore alex@cs.umd.edu NeXT mail accepted
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mzeller@gwdu03.gwdg.de (Meinrad Zeller) Subject: Re: Page Layout under NeXTSTEP Message-ID: <M9XHBXH@gwdu03.gwdg.de> Organization: GWDG, Goettingen References: <jeffo.749682420@uiuc.edu> Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1993 11:44:58 GMT J.B. Nicholson-Owens (jeffo@uiuc.edu) wrote: : I think it'll be some time before NS becomes a competitive DTP : platform. Unless your friends feel like waiting to see what AFS does : with PasteUp or Pages with Pages, I can't think of anything off the : top of my head for NS (besides TeX, of course) to do 40+ page : documents. Well, FrameMaker comes to my mind. FrameMaker is really a great product and a lot of people are using it to write reports, newspapers, magazines and books. Actually I think that Framemaker is just the SW those guys need. You can get a Demoversion of Frame e.g. from the 3rd party CD-ROM. Only saving is disabled. Have a look at it! I don't use FrameMaker daily, but I've written several "newspapers" and reports > 20 pages with it and I'm going to write a book with it. Best SW I can think of to do s.th. like that. My .2 cents. Meinrad -- Meinrad Zeller Foehrenweg 1 D-37077 Goettingen Tel.: +49-551-300095
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bauer@galilei.lbm.mw.tu-muenchen.de (Sebastian Bauer) Subject: looking for arc version 6.0 (for including subdirectories) Message-ID: <1993Oct6.143735.19115@news.lrz-muenchen.de> Sender: news@news.lrz-muenchen.de (Mr. News) Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany) Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1993 14:37:35 GMT Hi, at times, when I was using an Atari, I used the program "arc" for creating file archives and compressing files. In its version 6.0, it had the capability to put whole directory-trees (that means including subdirectories) into an archive. For unpacking these archives on my NeXTstation, I only have arc version 5.21 which doesn't have this subdirectory feature. Does anybody know, where to find the newer version? Thanks for any help. Sebastian -- Sebastian Bauer <bauer@lbm.mw.tu-muenchen.de> (NeXTmail welcome) Institute B for Mechanics (Prof. F. Pfeiffer) Technical University Munich, Germany
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: crystallography Message-ID: <1993Oct6.175020.120410@embl-heidelberg.de> From: tuparev@EMBL-Heidelberg.DE (Georg Tuparev) Date: 6 Oct 93 17:50:17 +0100 References: <1993Oct4.021752.9095@news.cs.brandeis.edu> In article <1993Oct4.021752.9095@news.cs.brandeis.edu> writes: > Hi, > Is there any program on the ftp sites for crystallography for the > NeXT. It should be capable of viewing any crystal along variuos planes > and if possible also see the reciprocal latice. I would appreciate if the > info can be emailed to me. > > Thanks > > T. Balasubramanian Hmmm... I'm just porting WHATIF, a system for protein design, NMR, protein & DNA crystallography etc. WHATIF has no special tools for small molecule X-ray crystallography. I hope, I'll finish the port till the end of this year. -- georg --
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: gseng@ctp.com (Greg Sengle) Subject: Elm under NEXTSTEP 3.1 Message-ID: <1993Oct6.182744.15500@ctp.com> Sender: news@ctp.com Organization: Cambridge Technology Partners Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1993 18:27:44 GMT I've recently moved my NeXT station into an environment where I can no longer receive mail on my machine, but I can NFS mount the mail directory where my mail is received. I have a copy of elm which someone gave me which points at /usr/spool/mail I would like to recompile elm to point at /usr/spool/nfsmail, or something like that. I tried this with elm source I had a while back, and couldn't get it to compile. Would anyone who has succesfully compiled elm for 3.1 send me some tips, specifics, and place to get source? Any help would be appreciated. I thought I had it set up correctly for NeXT but it failed badly. Thanks, Greg Sengle -- Gregory R. Sengle gseng@ctp.com tel 617 3748509 fax 617 3748300 Cambridge Technology Partners 304 Vassar Street Cambridge MA 02139
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: wgilbert@fatou.UWaterloo.ca (William Gilbert) Subject: Find in Improv Message-ID: <CEHqzE.EwC@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca> Sender: news@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1993 19:47:36 GMT Is there an easy way to find an ASCII string in an Improv worksheet? I know about the Improv function FIND. I would like something like CMD-f in Edit that beings up a NeXT Find Panel. --- +------------------------------------------------------+ Will Gilbert, Pure Math Dept, University of Waterloo wgilbert@fatou.UWaterloo.ca [NeXT mail welcome] Will.Gilbert@UWaterloo.ca
From: fl2a503@rznext01.rrz.uni-hamburg.de (Winfried Wille) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,de.comp.sys.next Subject: SUBMISSION: Grouper1.21 a Improv API Toolkit module Date: 6 Oct 1993 20:44:52 GMT Organization: University of Hamburg -- Germany Message-ID: <28vao4$t4t@rzsun02.rrz.uni-hamburg.de> Keywords: Improv, Improv API-Toolkit, NeXT Grouper V1.21 a Improv API-Toolkit Modul Automatic grouping for Lotus Improv! - you need the Improv API Toolkit. The Improv API-Toolkit V 1.0 is free, you can ftp it from most NeXT ftp-sites. The code was created at the end of 1991 under NS2.1 and recompiled with 3.0, source is included. This modul allows you to arrange items in groups by the value of a item in another castegory. The ungroup command of this module deletes automaticall any formulars which reference the group. I uploaded the following files to cs.orst.edu and ftp.rrz.uni-hamburg.de: Grouper1.21Pack.README [2117] Grouper1.21Pack.tar.gz [68670] On cs.orst.edu, you can find them in /pub/next/submission. On ftp.rrz.uni-hamburg.de you can find them under /pub/next/local. This code is free, but you have to mention me, when you use this code or parts of it. I don t know if anyone still uses Improv on NeXT-Computers and is interested in this stuff. But I think its time for all of us, espically NeXT, to put some code out to give the word Objectware a meaning. If you like the code and/or use it frequently, feel free to send me $15. I wrote a introducing article to the Improv API-Toolkit, which appears in the german mag Workout 4/92 under the title "Entwicklungshilfe f r Rechenkuenstler". I have a lot of other stuff, sorting in categorys, Sybase SQL Interpreter with Improv Interface, and some DB-Kit stuff in alpha-versions. But I currently can't afford to invest much time in unpayed work. The programming project was stopped in March 1992, because my contacts with Lotus gave me a very bad feeling about the coming support from Improv on NeXT. Thanks to the german company Xpand (registrated NeXTDeveloper), espically Michael Thun, who recently donated a NeXTstep 3.0 license and give me some work in the macintosh area. Beware the comments in the source-files are in german =:^) Have Fun Winfried Wille you can reach me as wwille@wwille.hanse.de
From: madler@cco.caltech.edu (Mark Adler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: gzip...? Date: 6 Oct 1993 20:40:14 GMT Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena Message-ID: <28vaffINN60m@gap.caltech.edu> References: <1993Oct1.172709.8937@ximage.com> <1993Oct5.064304.10263@csus.edu> >> 1.2.4 is the first release that doesn't require brain surgery to >> compile properly under NEXTSTEP. Try: Now be gentle. 1.2.4 is the first to compile under NeXTstep 3.1 with no problems. All versions of gzip from pre-1.0 on compiled flawlessly under NeXTstep 2.x and 3.0. Mark Adler madler@cco.caltech.edu
From: lpratt@slate.mines.colorado.edu (Lorien Pratt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Looking for public domain image processing for NeXT Message-ID: <1993Oct6.154046.45058@slate.mines.colorado.edu> Date: 6 Oct 93 15:40:46 GMT Sender: lpratt@slate.mines.colorado.edu (Lorien Pratt) Organization: Colorado School of Mines Can anybody recommend a public domain image processing package for the NeXT? I'm looking for something like X's Khoros -- a package that provides a variety of image manipulation tools, like frequency filters, edge detection, etc. Thanks! -Lori -- L. Y. Pratt Dept. of Math and Computer Science lpratt@franklinite.mines.colorado.edu Colorado School of Mines (303) 273-3878 (work) 402 Stratton (303) 278-4552 (home) Golden, CO 80401, USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: sherwood@arafel (System Administrator) Subject: Re: From NIS to NetInfo: Pointers needed for NeXTSTEP junkie, SunOS sysad Message-ID: <1993Oct6.212035.16266@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada References: <CEEMHC.G0t@news.otago.ac.nz> <1993Oct5.035221.10632@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1993 21:20:35 GMT Greg Gerard (ggerard@Alex.Engr.Trinity.Edu) wrote: : Where would be a good place to get started in looking into the entrails of : NetInfo? I have browsed the man pages, but from what I've found, they're : designed for the NetInfo guru, not rookie. Also, what files are really : used by NS? (eg, it ignores my entries into the /etc/fstab file and several : others.) Netinfo is less than trivial. Using parts of it is somewhat like eating one salted peanut. One change leads to another to another... If netinfo is running then certain files are not looked at at all. /etc/fstab is a good example, being read only at start up for local disks. Some others will be read if the information is not found in the netinfo domain. Unfortunately this takes time to check. /etc/passwd comes to mind. So if you didn't want to use netinfo for password stuff, then remove all but the psuedo users, and put the rest in yellow pages, or local passwd files. If you do a man on the appropriate flat file, and see a note at the bottom to the effect, "This file is not consulted if Netinfo is running." then you know. The actual information is stored in a binary format in /etc/netinfo/local.nidb and /etc/netinfo/network.nidb on the master server. : Also, how does one add a user via the command line or a large list of users? : I love the UserManager for adding one user at a time, but when adding anything : above 10, it gets stale. My scripts under SunOS handled this, but I dare not : start messing about with things until I know something about that with which : I muck. See the man page for nu. UserManager is just a fancy interface on top of nu. You will want to spend some time configuring the nu.cf file, as it can save you incredible amounts of grief. : greg -- => Sherwood Botsford sherwood@space.ualberta.ca <= => University of Alberta Lab Manager, Space Physics Group <= => tel:403 492-3713 fax: 403 492-4256 <=
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Looking for public domain image processing for NeXT Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1993 18:24:48 -0400 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Chemistry, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <IggoKku00WB3EORZoJ@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <1993Oct6.154046.45058@slate.mines.colorado.edu> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 6-Oct-93 Looking for public domain i.. by Lorien Pratt@slate.mines > Can anybody recommend a public domain image processing package for the > NeXT? I'm looking for something like X's Khoros -- a package that provides > a variety of image manipulation tools, like frequency filters, edge > detection, etc. Jef Poskanzers' "Portable BitMap" (or PBM) utilities can do most or all of what you're looking for. It's available from ftp.uu.net in /usenet/comp.sources.misc somewhere. (Get the index and search for "pbm"....) -Chuck Charles William Swiger -- CMU...*crunch*! | 1. You can't fly. ------------------------------------------+ 2. Cars are always real, even AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | when they're not. Failing that: cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu | 3. Police are not your friends. NeXTmail: chuck@mon.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | 4. Fire burns.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: joe@FreemanSoft.com (Joe Freeman) Subject: cnews for intel processors Message-ID: <1993Oct6.232004.2977@FreemanSoft.com> Sender: jfreeman@FreemanSoft.com Organization: FreemanSoft Inc. Distribution: usa Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1993 23:20:04 GMT Does anyone have cnews compiled up and running under NS/FIP? I have put on the new serial drivers and would like to bring up a new UUCP link for a news feed. (I guess I should have asked if anyone has done that yet) Any pointers would be appreciated. <joe> -- Joe Freeman FreemanSoft Inc. A NEXTSTEP software and consulting services company. Electronic Mail: Joe@FreemanSoft.com (NeXT Mail) Voice: 919.783.7033
From: t9116ts@tech.mis.cfc.com (Todd M. Swan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.protocols.ppp Subject: Re: From NIS to NetInfo: Pointers needed for NeXTSTEP junkie, SunOS sysad Date: 6 Oct 93 11:18:27 Organization: Chrysler Financial, MIS, Center Line, MI Message-ID: <T9116TS.93Oct6111827@litespeed.tech.mis.cfc.com> References: <CEEMHC.G0t@news.otago.ac.nz> <1993Oct5.035221.10632@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> In-reply-to: ggerard@Alex.Engr.Trinity.Edu's message of Tue, 5 Oct 1993 03:52:21 GMT In article <1993Oct5.035221.10632@ringer.cs.utsa.edu>, ggerard@Alex.Engr.Trinity.Edu (Greg Gerard) writes: >Where would be a good place to get started in looking into the entrails of >NetInfo? I have browsed the man pages, but from what I've found, they're >designed for the NetInfo guru, not rookie. Also, what files are really >used by NS? (eg, it ignores my entries into the /etc/fstab file and several >others.) > >Also, how does one add a user via the command line or a large list of users? >I love the UserManager for adding one user at a time, but when adding anything >above 10, it gets stale. My scripts under SunOS handled this, but I dare not >start messing about with things until I know something about that with which >I muck. I believe the "NEXTSTEP Network and System Administration" book has a decent intro to NetInfo. Then the man pages are the place to go. Here are the pertinent ones: netinfo (3N) - library routines for NetInfo calls netinfo (5) - network administrative information netinfod (8) - NetInfo daemon nibindd (8) - NetInfo binder nidomain (8) - NetInfo domain utility nidump (8) - extract text or UNIX-format data from NetInfo niload (8) - load text or UNIX-format data into NetInfo niutil (8) - NetInfo utility Especially look at niload and nidump. This will help you in adding users in bulk. NetInfo overrides (or supplements) the following files: /etc/sendmail/aliases /etc/bootptab /etc/bootparams /etc/exports /etc/fstab /etc/group /etc/hosts /etc/networks /etc/passwd /etc/printcap /etc/protocols /etc/rpc /etc/services The NetInfo database(s) are stored in /etc/netinfo. Good luck, Todd -- Todd M. Swan - tms@cfc.com - Chrysler Financial, Center Line, MI Member - SPWWLSSURLA and BTBS - Disclaimer: "I said it, not CFC." "If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice" - Rush
From: bohlkejh@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Jon H. Bohlke II) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP WWW client? Date: 7 Oct 1993 02:07:57 GMT Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology Message-ID: <28vtlt$jdq@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu> References: <1993Oct6.071016.15913@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> In article <1993Oct6.071016.15913@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> jmack@skye.phys.ualberta.ca writes: > In article <CEDtJK.H2@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU> Paul_Kunz@slac.stanford.edu > (Paul Kunz) writes: > > In article <28n35j$c9t@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> mycroft@monolith.utexas.edu Check the file NewsAccess.m in the source directory... it has the reference there. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Jon Bohlke bohlkejh@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu "This gnaws at my gut like a Billy Tubbs post-game interview." - Michael Lerner GO HUSKERS!!!!!! -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
From: jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Joseph W Reiss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.emacs Subject: Emacs 19.19 on a NeXT w/ Mouse-X Date: 7 Oct 1993 03:11:59 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <2901dv$2oe@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Hello, I've got the newest version of emacs up on my NeXT, as you can tell from the subject, and I'm lovin' it. But I have one problem, and I'm not quire sure whose problem it is (hence the crossposting). I can't seem to figure out how to rebind the numerical keypad on the NeXT so that emacs recognizes them as different keys from those on the main keyboard. According to xmodmap, they are bound to KP_xxx as they should be, but emacs insists on just viewing them as 0, 1, 2, +, -, etc. Can anybody tell me what I need to do to get this set up properly? I'd greatly appreciate it! Joe -- __________ | NeXTMail accepted, but not preferred | |___) | """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" \_/OE | \EISS | IBM isn't really that bad. In fact, they only have `---- | two problems: their hardware and their software.
From: David Pascua <dp3m+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: VERY Slow FrameMaker on NeXTstation Color Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1993 00:29:27 -0400 Organization: Masters student, Information Networking Institute, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <Yggtgbi00WBOAFTUwV@andrew.cmu.edu> Hi, I've just recently acquired a 16/400 NeXTstation Color running NS 3.0. On the whole I've been very happy with the system. However, when I run FrameMaker (v 3.0.1), I get VERY slow response rate. Almost all of the time, I'm typing ahead of the echoed characters (and I am NOT a good typist by anyone's standard). Has anyone else run into this problem? Does anyone have any suggestions for improving the response rate? I've run the same version of Frame on (non-Color) 20/400 NeXTstations, and I don't get the same slow response that I do on the color station. Running on a 16/600 '040 cube yields an acceptable response rate as well. Maybe I need more memory? -Dave non-NeXT mail:dp3m@andrew.cmu.edu NeXTmail:dp3m@gs131.sp.cs.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: westner@picasso.pst.informatik.uni-muenchen.de (Dominik Westner) Subject: Re: Dialup PPP Sender: news@informatik.uni-muenchen.de (News System) Message-ID: <CEIzon.DEq@informatik.uni-muenchen.de> Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1993 11:53:11 GMT References: <28tf70$srm@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Universitaet Muenchen In article <28tf70$srm@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> mconners@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael R Conners) writes: > In article <CEEMHC.G0t@news.otago.ac.nz> alastair@farli.otago.ac.nz writes: > >Hi there, > >Is there somewhere I can get dialup PPP for NeXT in source form? I > >have one version for Solaris, but if I can avoid porting it I will. > > > >Thanks > >Alastair > >-- > >Alastair Thomson, | Phone +64-3-479-8347 > >Chief Programmer, Black Albatross, | Fax +64-3-479-8529 > >Department of Computer Science, | > >University of Otago, | alastair@farli.otago.ac.nz > >Dunedin, New Zealand | NeXTmail Welcome > > > Yep- MorningStar PPP. I've got it for my NeXT and it's great. Does SLIP too. > marketing@morningstar.com. > -- > *** Michael Conners - THE Ohio State University *** > ** Compare and Contrast: ** > Carter Administration Clinton Administration > - Elvis dead - Barbra Streisand all too lively Can anybody enlighten me, how to do SLIP with the PPP 0.3 Morning Star version. I tried it out, but didn't succeed. Thanks -- Dominik Westner "Everything is possible in an infinite universe" ______________________________________________________Willi, the painter Dominik Westner Muenchen-Germany HOME: dominik@blackmagic.guug.de [NeXTMail welcome]
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: VERY Slow FrameMaker on NeXTstation Color Date: 7 Oct 1993 05:44:53 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Distribution: world Message-ID: <290acl$bql@agate.berkeley.edu> References: <Yggtgbi00WBOAFTUwV@andrew.cmu.edu> In article <Yggtgbi00WBOAFTUwV@andrew.cmu.edu> David Pascua <dp3m+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes: >I've just recently acquired a 16/400 NeXTstation Color running NS 3.0. >On the whole I've been very happy with the system. > >However, when I run FrameMaker (v 3.0.1), I get VERY slow response rate. > Almost all of the time, I'm typing ahead of the echoed characters (and >I am NOT a good typist by anyone's standard). Has anyone else run into >this problem? >Does anyone have any suggestions for improving the response rate? > >I've run the same version of Frame on (non-Color) 20/400 NeXTstations, >and I don't get the same slow response that I do on the color station. >Running on a 16/600 '040 cube yields an acceptable response rate as well. > >Maybe I need more memory? It's the Window Depth conversion problem from 2-bits backing store to 24-bits in the frame buffer. This process is slow. Solution: Promote the backing store depth to match the VRAM depth by selecting a tiny portion of your text to any color. You can then change the color back to black text and you will see a dramatic improvement in speed on Color station as long as you have that window open. Perhaps, you can have a tiny colored "." char (or something not highly visible) at the top of the document to automatically promote your document window backing store to RGB depth, until when you print the final copy. -- Izumi Ohzawa [ $@Bg_78^=;(J ] USMail: University of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720 Telephone: (510) 642-6440 Fax: (510) 642-3323 Internet: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (NeXTMail OK)
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: VERY Slow FrameMaker on NeXTstation Color Date: 7 Oct 1993 07:04:17 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Distribution: world Message-ID: <290f1h$cpj@agate.berkeley.edu> References: <290acl$bql@agate.berkeley.edu> In article <290acl$bql@agate.berkeley.edu> izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa) writes: In article <Yggtgbi00WBOAFTUwV@andrew.cmu.edu> David Pascua <dp3m+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes: >I've just recently acquired a 16/400 NeXTstation Color running NS 3.0. >On the whole I've been very happy with the system. > >However, when I run FrameMaker (v 3.0.1), I get VERY slow response rate. > Almost all of the time, I'm typing ahead of the echoed characters (and >I am NOT a good typist by anyone's standard). Has anyone else run into >this problem? >Does anyone have any suggestions for improving the response rate? > >I've run the same version of Frame on (non-Color) 20/400 NeXTstations, >and I don't get the same slow response that I do on the color station. >Running on a 16/600 '040 cube yields an acceptable response rate as well. > >Maybe I need more memory? It's the Window Depth conversion problem from 2-bits backing store to 24-bits in the frame buffer. This process is slow. Solution: Promote the backing store depth to match the VRAM depth by selecting a tiny portion of your text to any color. You can then change the color back to black text and you will see a dramatic improvement in speed on Color station as long as you have that window open. Perhaps, you can have a tiny colored "." char (or something not highly visible) at the top of the document to automatically promote your document window backing store to RGB depth, until when you print the final copy. -- Izumi Ohzawa [ $@Bg_78^=;(J ] USMail: University of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720 Telephone: (510) 642-6440 Fax: (510) 642-3323 Internet: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (NeXTMail OK) -- Izumi Ohzawa [ $@Bg_78^=;(J ] USMail: University of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720 Telephone: (510) 642-6440 Fax: (510) 642-3323 Internet: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (NeXTMail OK)
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: VERY Slow FrameMaker on NeXTstation Color Date: 7 Oct 1993 07:05:45 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Distribution: world Message-ID: <290f49$cql@agate.berkeley.edu> References: <290acl$bql@agate.berkeley.edu> In article <290acl$bql@agate.berkeley.edu> izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa) writes: >It's the Window Depth conversion problem from 2-bits backing store >to 24-bits in the frame buffer. This process is slow. Ooops, I meant 12/16 bits/pixel frame buffer. -- Izumi Ohzawa [ $@Bg_78^=;(J ] USMail: University of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720 Telephone: (510) 642-6440 Fax: (510) 642-3323 Internet: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (NeXTMail OK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: Michael_Pizolato@afs.com (Michael Pizolato) Subject: Looking for source for "feathers" Message-ID: <1993Oct6.210111.1058@afs.com> Sender: Michael_Pizolato@afs.com Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1993 21:01:11 GMT Does anyone have the source code for "feathers," or know where I can get it? Feathers is a tar clone that doesn't have the file name length restriction. I tried using the gnutar that ships with NEXTSTEP, but it also has problems with some of the file name lengths I have do deal with. Any and all help will be greatly appreciated. Thanx, Michael -- Michael_Pizolato@afs.com NeXTMail accepted
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jq@phcs.com (Jim Quick) Subject: Re: Any success compiling unix software under NS 3.1/intel? Message-ID: <CEIBqo.2CM@phcs.com> Organization: Private Healthcare Systems, Inc References: <1993Sep30.030427.27342@cs.cornell.edu> <T9116TS.93Oct4153854@litespeed.tech.mis.cfc.com> Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1993 03:16:00 GMT In article <T9116TS.93Oct4153854@litespeed.tech.mis.cfc.com> tms@cfc.com writes: >In article <1993Sep30.030427.27342@cs.cornell.edu>, bau@cs.cornell.edu (David Bau) writes: >>Has anybody compiled: >>tcsh, gnu tar, gnu zip, bison, flex... etc under 3.1? >> >>For the time being, I especially miss tcsh (although i realize the >>next csh has some tcsh features). >> >I've compiled all these things without much difficulty. 'tcsh' tells >you in one of the READMEs how to compile for NeXT. (It used a mach >file and a next file, if I remember right.) If there are no NeXT >specifice instruction included try using a generic BSD4.3 build. >Also, most of the GNU stuff has a very smart config script that will >figure out a lot of things for you. > >Todd > >-- >Todd M. Swan - tms@cfc.com - Chrysler Financial, Center Line, MI >Member - SPWWLSSURLA and BTBS - Disclaimer: "I said it, not CFC." >"If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice" - Rush Gnu configure scripts usually do a good job on 3.1. There is usually only one thing that configure consistenly guesses wrong about: the dirent.h (that is there for future POSIX support). Make sure to check for the the use of struct direct instead of struct dirent. Some packages get fooled into thinking that 3.1 uses ulimit(). Just make sure that the package knows you do not have ulimit(), and that you have getrlimit() getrusage() instead. Finally, taylor uucp was confused about what type of statfs() was there. NextStep 3.1 uses two argument statfs() whose vfs structre contains the member f_bsize so make sure that STAT_STATFS2_BSIZE is correctly defined in conf.h. Gnu m4, required only adding -traditional-cpp flag to CFLAGS. Thanks go to Stephen Perkins at Michigan state for telling me about this requirement before I had to RTFM for that one. All of the following were pretty easy ports to 3.1: autoconf-1.3 bash-1.12 bison-1.19 cvs-1.3 diff-2.2 gzip-1.0.5 m4-1.0.3 make-3.63 make-3.63 perl-4.036 rcs-5.6 smail-3.1.28 texinfo-2.16 uucp-1.04 I'd be happy to share info on these if anyone needs a hand. p.s. Got a really pleasant surprise today while trying to debug a failure of gethostbyname() with my netinfo defs. I'm a bash user and was using the 3.1 gdb for the first time last night. I thought I was in bash but was still in gdb when I hit a cursor key. I had not realized that the GNU readline functions were compiled into gdb. Happy happy. . . Joy Joy. -- ___ ___ mail: uunet!phcs!jq PHCS, Inc. Advanced Technology Group / / / or jq@phcs.com It's spelled "Luxury Yacht", but it's \_/ (_\/ Fax: (617) 863-8575 pronounced "Throat-Warbler Mangrove". ) Voice: (617) 861-5579 NeXTMail O.K.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: fey@wolf.cs.washington.edu (Curran Fey) Subject: Use of pswrap Message-ID: <FEY.93Oct7091036@wolf.cs.washington.edu> Sender: news@beaver.cs.washington.edu (USENET News System) Organization: /homes/iws/fey/.organization Distribution: comp Date: 7 Oct 93 09:10:36 Can anyone mail me an example of passing an integer array created in C to PostScript via the pswrap command? Is such an action possible? Thanks.
From: csmith@blackplague.gmu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Spreadsheets for NeXTStep Date: 7 Oct 1993 16:27:16 GMT Organization: The Gnomes of Zurich (shhh!) Distribution: world Message-ID: <291g15$o1r@news.intercon.com> Does anybody out there have any opinions they would like to share with me (and the rest of the net) on the relative merits of different spredsheet programs for the NeXT? I am most interested in comparisons between Mesa, Questor, and Appsoft Solution. These are the three I have seen the most of (ie they came on the third party disk with NeXTStep Intel) and if there are others, please feel free to discourse on these as well. Thanks for the time, -- Christian Smith aka Blackplague PGP Public Key available by finger or request.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: gtoews@fulford.UVic.CA (Greg Toews) Subject: Will Improv Mathmatica SoftPC Diagram work when I go 2.2 -> 3.1 ??? Message-ID: <1993Oct7.163202.19485@sol.UVic.CA> Sender: news@sol.UVic.CA Organization: University of Victoria Date: Thu, 7 Oct 93 16:32:02 GMT I upgraded my WordPerfect to the latest release but I am wondering if the above programs will still run when I upgrade my machine to 3.1. BTW I'm not going to do the incremental upgrade method, I'm going to do a full install of 3.1 over 2.2 so I guess I'll have to re-install all of my programs which could be a pain if I've lost the passwords for MMatica and Diagram. Greg
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc From: cew@quark.Stanford.EDU (Carlin E. Wiegner) Subject: Load monitoring software.... Message-ID: <1993Oct7.174448.5045@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: Stanford University Date: Thu, 7 Oct 93 17:44:48 GMT Is there any piece of software out there that can graphically let me have a window up showing NFS transactions, load, performance, packets, etc. I'd like something like what comes with SunOS or XWindows.... thanks for the info....please email replies and I'll get a repost.... CW -- NewsGrazer, a NeXTstep(tm) news reader, posting -- M>UQR=&8P7&%N<VE[7&9O;G1T8FQ<9C!<9FUO9&5R;B!#;W5R:65R.WT*7&UA M<F=L,3(P"EQM87)G<C$R,`I<<&%R9%QT>#$Q-3)<='@R,S`T7'1X,S0U-EQT M>#0V,#A<='@U-S8P7'1X-CDQ,EQT>#@P-C1<='@Y,C$V7'1X,3`S-CA<='@Q M,34R,%QF,%QB,%QI,%QU;&YO;F5<9G,R-%QF8S!<8V8P($ES('1H97)E(&%N M>2!P:65C92!O9B!S;V9T=V%R92!O=70@=&AE<F4@=&AA="!C86X@9W)A<&AI M8V%L;'D@;&5T(&UE(&AA=F4@82!W:6YD;W<@=7`@<VAO=VEN9R!.1E,@=')A M;G-A8W1I;VYS+"!L;V%D+"!P97)F;W)M86YC92P@<&%C:V5T<RP@971C+EP* M7`I))V0@;&EK92!S;VUE=&AI;F<@;&EK92!W:&%T(&-O;65S('=I=&@@4W5N M3U,@;W(@6%=I;F1O=W,N+BXN7`IT:&%N:W,@9F]R('1H92!I;F9O+BXN+G!L M96%S92!E;6%I;"!R97!L:65S(&%N9"!))VQL(&=E="!A(')E<&]S="XN+BY< ("D-77`H*?0II `
From: madler@cco.caltech.edu (Mark Adler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: gzip...? Date: 7 Oct 1993 17:35:52 GMT Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena Message-ID: <291k1oINN207@gap.caltech.edu> References: <1993Oct1.172709.8937@ximage.com> <CEEoyn.13E@infoserv.com> <1993Oct6.043348.28438@csus.edu> >> These are ancient, buggy versions. NeXT knew this when they >> froze 3.1. Eh? It (1.0.7) was not at all buggy. At least not on the NeXT. (There were some VMS bugs fixed since then.) Most of the changes from 1.0.7 to 1.2.4 were to accomodate various operating systems and compilers. The big change, and the main reason to use 1.2.4 instead of 1.0.7 is the use of the .gz instead of .z suffix. mark
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: cew@quark.Stanford.EDU (Carlin E. Wiegner) Subject: REPOST: Address Book Programs.... Message-ID: <1993Oct7.175110.5317@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: Stanford University Date: Thu, 7 Oct 93 17:51:10 GMT This is a repost of the responses I received from several individuals about any inexpensive address books out there.... Here are my findings: The two biggies are: SBook v3.0.3 $90 InTouch by SmartSoft v1.02 $50 **** Note: This are educational prices **** Demos for both are on cs.orst.edu (and probably on sonata as well). The general trend was that SBook was a little slicker but at twice the price I would hope so. ********************************************************************* ******* Thanks for everyone's help.... Catch y'all later.... CW -- NewsGrazer, a NeXTstep(tm) news reader, posting -- M>UQR=&8P7&%N<VE[7&9O;G1T8FQ<9C!<9FUO9&5R;B!#;W5R:65R.WT*7&UA M<F=L,3(P"EQM87)G<C$R,`I<<&%R9%QT>#$Q-3)<='@R,S`T7'1X,S0U-EQT M>#0V,#A<='@U-S8P7'1X-CDQ,EQT>#@P-C1<='@Y,C$V7'1X,3`S-CA<='@Q M,34R,%QF,%QB,%QI,%QU;&YO;F5<9G,R-%QF8S!<8V8P(%1H:7,@:7,@82!R M97!O<W0@;V8@=&AE(')E<W!O;G-E<R!)(')E8V5I=F5D(&9R;VT@<V5V97)A M;"!I;F1I=FED=6%L<R!A8F]U="!A;GD@:6YE>'!E;G-I=F4@861D<F5S<R!B M;V]K<R!O=70@=&AE<F4N+BXN7`I<"DAE<F4@87)E(&UY(&9I;F1I;F=S.EP* M7`I4:&4@='=O(&)I9V=I97,@87)E.EP*4T)O;VL@=C,N,"XS"0D))#DP7`I) M;E1O=6-H(&)Y(%-M87)T4V]F="!V,2XP,@DD-3!<"EP**BHJ*B!.;W1E.B!4 M:&ES(&%R92!E9'5C871I;VYA;"!P<FEC97,@*BHJ*EP*7`I$96UO<R!F;W(@ M8F]T:"!A<F4@;VX@8W,N;W)S="YE9'4@*&%N9"!P<F]B86)L>2!O;B!S;VYA M=&$@87,@=V5L;"DN7`I<"E1H92!G96YE<F%L('1R96YD('=A<R!T:&%T(%-" M;V]K('=A<R!A(&QI='1L92!S;&EC:V5R(&)U="!A="!T=VEC92!T:&4@<')I M8V4@22!W;W5L9"!H;W!E('-O+B!<"EP*7`HJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ M*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ M*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ7`I4:&%N:W,@9F]R(&5V97)Y;VYE)W,@:&5L<"XN+BY< ="D-A=&-H('DG86QL(&QA=&5R+BXN+EP*0U<*?0IY `
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: nwc (Nick Christopher) Subject: Re: Looking for source for "feathers" Message-ID: <CEJp2q.4tE@ny.shl.com> Sender: usenet@ny.shl.com (Net News) Organization: SHL Systemhouse Inc. References: <1993Oct6.210111.1058@afs.com> Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1993 21:01:37 GMT Use /NextAdmin/Installer.app/installer_bigtar - it handles long pathnames. \n Nicholas Christopher Systemhouse Nick_Christopher@ny.shl.com -- "At the same time, recalling my insignificance, I affirm nothing, but submit all these opinions to the judgment of the more sage; I wish no one to believe anything I have written, unless he is personally persuaded by the evidence of reason." - Rene Descartes... basically.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dekorte@next1.scri.fsu.edu (Stephen Lee Dekorte) Subject: NetInfo: fax modem problem References: <T9116TS.93Oct6111827@litespeed.tech.mis.cfc.com> Sender: usenet@mailer.cc.fsu.edu Organization: Florida State University ACNS Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1993 21:18:54 GMT Message-ID: <CEJpvJ.8uJ@mailer.cc.fsu.edu> Although the docs seem to cover everything else, I can't find any info on how to add a fax modem to the fax_modems directory in NetInfoManager. What properties and values are required? Any help would be much appreciated, Steve
Message-ID: <a8$@byu.edu> Date: Thu, 7 Oct 93 16:11:36 MDT Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Music Composition on NeXT From: Dennis Haag <Dennis_Haag@byu.edu> Distribution: world Organization: Brigham Young University Does anyone know of a good application that allows you to create score files? I have looked at Presto, but was hoping for something a lot less expensive (free?). Any information on score files would be appreciated. Thanks Dennis Haag Dennis_Haag@byu.edu haagd@sirius.byu.edu (NeXT Mail)
From: Roland Telfeyan <roland@gomidas.mi.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Find in Improv Date: 7 Oct 1993 22:13:32 GMT Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept. Distribution: world Message-ID: <2924ac$eqm@zip.eecs.umich.edu> References: <CEHqzE.EwC@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca> There is no find function in the NeXT Improv. Pretty brain-dead. Does the Windows version have a find panel?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: eric@whyanext.com (Eric Schwartz) Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP WWW client? Message-ID: <CEL1Gs.L8v@unix.portal.com> Sender: news@unix.portal.com Organization: Portal Communications Company References: <neuss.749828968@ramazzotti> Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1993 14:26:50 GMT > Hopefully, somebodys gonna come up with a NeXT browser soon.. until > then, the best way to go is IMHO using xmosaic (you can get a NeXT > compiled binary from ftp.ncsa.uiuc.edu) and running it under an X > emulation like CoXist for example. > > Hope that helps, > Chris > /* > * Christian Neuss % neuss@igd.fhg.de % ..in the humdrum > */ What's the best way to run X on a 2.1 system? Before I invest in coXist, I'd like to get my feet wet in X using a public domain implementation. What kind of disk space does XNeXT hog up? Thanks, Eric
From: wich1820@maynard.ww.tu-berlin.de (Thorsten Wichmann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Help needed with NNStat Date: 8 Oct 1993 16:12:19 GMT Organization: TUBerlin/ZRZ Message-ID: <2943h3$5ni@mailgzrz.TU-Berlin.DE> Hi there, did anybody out there install the network monitoring program NNStat. As far as I can see it needs the right hacks to change it from Sun BSD to Next. Any hints would be appreciated. Thorsten -- ------------------------------------------------------ wich1820@maynard.ww.tu-berlin.de Thorsten Wichmann voice: +49 30 314-24142 Dept of Economics fax: +49 30 314-23249 Tech. Univ. Berlin ===============> NeXT-Mail welcome <==================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) Subject: Re: Will Improv Mathmatica SoftPC Diagram work when I go 2.2 -> 3.1 ??? Message-ID: <1993Oct8.162753.10458@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: Stanford University References: <1993Oct7.163202.19485@sol.UVic.CA> Date: Fri, 8 Oct 93 16:27:53 GMT Greg Toews writes > I upgraded my WordPerfect to the latest release but I am wondering > if the above programs will still run when I upgrade my machine > to 3.1. Improv and Mma definitely work. SoftPC also works (but I've used it very little, so it didn't get a full workout). I'm pretty sure Diagram works, but I upgraded to Diagram2 at about the same time, so I can't say for sure. I'd say Diagram2 is well worth upgrading to, anyway. -- - Stefano Pagiola Food Research Institute, Stanford University spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged) spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
From: perkins@sidney.cps.msu.edu (Stephen Perkins) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: ANSI vs. POSIX Date: 8 Oct 1993 16:42:37 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Distribution: world Message-ID: <29459t$oun@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> Keywords: portability, coding style, POSIX, ANSI, GNU Out of the GNU coding Standards Manual: --------------------------------------------------------------- Compatibility with Other Implementations **************************************** With certain exceptions, utility programs and libraries for GNU should be upward compatible with those in Berkeley Unix, and upward compatible with ANSI C if ANSI C specifies their behavior, and upward compatible with POSIX if POSIX specifies their behavior. When these standards conflict, it is useful to offer compatibility modes for each of them. --------------------------------------------------------------- Does anybody know of a concise document that might describe the important differences between these? I'm interested in writing code that is highly portable (possibly even for MS-DOG systems). Thanks, Steve ==================================================================== Stephen Perkins | Department of Computer Science | perkins@cps.msu.edu Michigan State University |
Newsgroups: sci.math.symbolic,comp.sys.next.software From: hozak@next.cc.wmich.edu (Kurt Hozak) Subject: Next Maple Session ---> Mac Maple Message-ID: <1993Oct8.153010.27806@sol.cs.wmich.edu> Keywords: Maple Sender: news@sol.cs.wmich.edu (Usenet Maintenance) Organization: Western Michigan Univ. Comp. Sci. Dept. Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1993 15:30:10 GMT I apologize if this is obvious, but how can I save a session of Maple done on a NeXTstep system so that a Mac can read in the session? When I try to open or import on the mac, the session is either badly garbled or the entire Mac crashes with a system error. I used a normal (ie, from the menu) save on the NeXT side. I don't have any information on the significance of the internals.m file or the mapledoc files that are produced when I save, and I suppose that is the key... Thanks! Kurt Hozak 92hozak@lab.cc.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: seungwoo@myria.cs.umn.edu (Seung-Woo Kim) Subject: mail with slip Message-ID: <seungwoo.750111536@myria> Keywords: mail, slip Sender: news@news2.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities Distribution: umn.edu Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1993 20:18:56 GMT I've been using SLIP for a while - everything works - rlogin, telnet, ftp, even X-window. But I can't get my mail sent over the slip line(626-1920). Normally, it doesn't pose any problem as long as it's just ASCII files since I can rlogin to the university and use elm. But when I want to send NeXTmail, it's quite bothersome. Can someone help me have this configured? When I tried to send mail from my localhost, it always bounce with the following message: ----- Transcript of session follows ----- 550 mailhost (ether)... 550 Host unknown 554 seungwoo@cs.umn.edu... 550 Host unknown (Authoritative answer from name server) ----- Unsent message follows ----- Return-Path: <seungwoo> Received: by localhost.gw.umn.edu (NX5.67c/NX3.0S) id AA00245; Fri, 8 Oct 93 15:10:13 -0600 Date: Fri, 8 Oct 93 15:10:13 -0600 From: Seung-Woo Kim <seungwoo> Message-Id: <9310082110.AA00245@localhost.gw.umn.edu> To: seungwoo@cs.umn.edu Subject: hello test I'd appreciate it very much if anybody help me out. Thank you many times. Seung-Woo
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.scitech,sci.math.symbolic,comp.sys.next.software From: John Brewer <jbrewer@wri.com> Subject: International Mathematica Users Message-ID: <1993Oct8.210114.9667@wri.com> Sender: news@wri.com ( ) Organization: Wolfram Research, Inc. Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1993 21:01:14 GMT We are currently in the process of making some major changes to the text editor in the Front End for Mathematica. These will bring all sorts of benefits (which I really can't discuss here, or even via e-mail with people who aren't non-disclosed). They also carry the risk of less than optimal support for international users who don't speak up now. Our new text editor engine will completely replace the system text editing engines on the Mac and NextStep. As a result, we will not be getting the built-in support of non-Roman writing systems anymore -- some additional programming work on our part will be required to support them. Our goal for version 2.3 is to provide international support at least as good as that in previous versions. Therein lies our problem. We are a relatively small company, and just don't have the capability to regression test our editing engine against the over 30 international versions of Apple's System Software, let alone various international versions of NextStep. So, we'd like to hear from anyone who is using a non-Roman writing system with Mathematica. This way we'll get a better idea of what the status quo is, so that we can maintain it in version 2.3. We'd also like to hear where our current international support falls short, so we can improve it in subsequent versions. Please e-mail your observations to <jbrewer@wri.com>. I'd also be glad to hear any other suggestions you might have for the Front End. We're very late in the development cycle for 2.3, so any major changes will probably have to wait for subsequent versions. Also, please feel free to forward this message to anyone else you think might be able to help. Please do not send requests to beta test. I am not in charge of the beta tester list. I will, however, be glad to pass along the name of anyone who provides useful information. John Brewer Wolfram Research, Inc.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: sinclair@cs.brandeis.edu (David A. Sinclair) Subject: Problem with imake (XNeXT on 3.0 slab) Message-ID: <1993Oct8.205015.28887@news.cs.brandeis.edu> Sender: news@news.cs.brandeis.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Brandeis University - Computer Science Dept. Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1993 20:50:15 GMT Hello, netland. I'm having a problem trying to use xmkmf with the XNeXT distribution I've installed on my 3.0 station. I get: imake -DUseInstalled imake: file not found (I think that's the exact message -- I'm at work, not at home with my NeXT right now! :) I think there may be a file missing in my /usr/lib/X11/config directory. Would anyone be willing to email (can't receive NeXTmail yet -- just ascii email) a listing of what they have in their config directory? Or, if you think something else is my problem, I'd love to hear about that too! Thanks for any/all replies, David Sinclair sinclair@cs.brandeis.edu -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- David A. Sinclair - "Chester" sinclair@cs.brandeis.edu
Newsgroups: rec.aviation.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.marketplace,rmnug.general From: jbrown@qdeck.com (Jordan Brown) Subject: Logbook program Organization: Quarterdeck Office Systems, Santa Monica CA Date: Fri, 08 Oct 1993 22:14:54 GMT Message-ID: <1993Oct08.221454.10896@qdeck.com> Quite some time ago somebody asked about a program to help a pilot keep a logbook, analyze it, etc. I posted that I had a simple system that I was willing to give out. There was a fair amount of interest, so here it is. Sorry for the delay... "readme" has some information, but basically the documentation is included in the sample files and as usage messages in sumlog.sh and sumlog.bat. sumlog.sh hasn't been extensively tested - I've been running this under MSDOS for quite some time, and only recreated a UNIX shell script for this release. Questions, comments, fixes, suggestions, drop me a line... jbrown@qdeck.com is fine. The readme gives jbrown@quake.com, since that address will (hopefully) persist through any job changes. I would expect this to work under MSDOS or UNIX, with any competent AWK. Nawk is not required. #! /bin/sh # This is a shell archive. Save it in a file, remove anything before # this line, and then unpack it by entering "sh file". Note, it may # create directories; files and directories will be owned by you and # have default permissions. # # This archive contains: # # ex.rc # fixlog.awk # log.out # log.smp # readme # sumlog.awk # sumlog.bat # sumlog.sh # types.lst # echo x - ex.rc sed 's/^X//' >ex.rc << 'END-of-ex.rc' Xmap! #1 pa24-180 n6755p Xmap! #2 pa38-112 n2429k END-of-ex.rc echo x - fixlog.awk sed 's/^X//' >fixlog.awk << 'END-of-fixlog.awk' X#! /bin/awk -f X# Credit: Original 1993 Jordan Brown X# PUBLIC DOMAIN - see readme X X# this is used to reformat the log file when necessary. Xlength==0 { print; next; } # copy blank lines X$1=="." { print; next; } # copy comments X { X # date type n X printf "%6s %-10s %-6s",$1,$2,$3; X # app ldg X printf " %-2d %-2d",$4,$5; X # xc day X printf " %-3s %-3s",$6,$7; X # ngt actI simI X printf " %-3s %-3s %-3s",$8,$9,$10; X # dual pic sic tot X printf " %-3s %-3s %-3s %-3s",$11,$12,$13,$14; X printf "\n"; X } END-of-fixlog.awk echo x - log.out sed 's/^X//' >log.out << 'END-of-log.out' X 0 InstApp 15 Ldgs 0.0 Other 5.3 ASEL 0.0 AMEL X 0.9 XC 3.9 Day 1.4 Night 0.0 ActIns 0.3 SimIns X 0.0 Simul 3.0 Dual 1.6 PIC 0.7 SIC X X 2.3 Retract 3.0 TailWhl 2.3 Trike X X 5.3 Total X XBy type: (4 types) X7eca 1.1 8kcab 1.9 c-172rg 0.7 Xpa24-180 1.6 X XBy airplane: (5 airplanes) Xn1119e 0.7 n4962v 0.7 n5035n 1.2 n6755p 1.6 n57404 1.1 END-of-log.out echo x - log.smp sed 's/^X//' >log.smp << 'END-of-log.smp' X. Credit: Original 1993 Jordan Brown X. PUBLIC DOMAIN - see readme X X. Format of log file: X X. The log file has two basic kinds of lines: comments and data lines. X. Comments start with a ". " (space required); data lines don't. X. Comments can contain any text. As you'll observe, I use them X. for the "remarks" and "from/to" columns in the log book. X X. Data lines have 14 columns, in the same order they appear in the X. "Standard Pilot Log": X X. Date Date of the flight, as YYMMDD. (Format is important - X. it's used for comparisons.) X. Type Aircraft type. Arbitrary, but be consistent so that X. time gets classified right. You'll be warned if you X. use a type that's not in types.lst. X. N Aircraft ID. Arbitrary, but again be consistent so that X. per-airplane totals work right. X. Ap Number of instrument approaches. X. Ld Number of landings. X. Various "Time" fields. Use "-" if the column is blank. X. Note that "SEL", "MEL", etc are derived from the aircraft type. X. XC Cross-country time. X. Day Day time. X. Ngt Night time. X. AcI Actual Instrument time. X. SmI Simulated Instrument time. X. Ins Instructed time. X. PIC Pilot In Command time. X. SIC Second In Command time. X. Total Total time. X X. Date Type N Ap Ld XC Day Ngt AcI SmI Ins PIC SIC Total X881003 8kcab n1119e 0 1 - 0.7 - - - 0.7 - - 0.7 X. SZP LCL, Hammerhead turns, slow rolls left, 1/2 rolls left, 5-turn spin. X. Rich Stowell X881004 c-172rg n4962v 0 0 - - 0.7 - - - - 0.7 0.7 X. EMT LGB EMT, safety for J. Kounis (SIC). ILS-30 LGB, NDB-19R SNA, X. ILS-19R SNA, VOR-A EMT. X881010 8kcab n5035n 0 1 - 0.6 - - - 0.6 - - 0.6 X. SZP LCL, akro sequence - 1/2 square loop, inv spin, 1/2 cuban, loop, h-head, X. 4-pt roll. Rich Stowell X881011 pa24-180 n6755p 0 1 - - 0.7 - - - 0.7 - 0.7 X. SMO SMO, Valley, Downtown, WLA tour. Linda Wald X881014 7eca n57404 0 10 - 1.1 - - - 1.1 - - 1.1 X. SZP LCL, 7eca checkout for CP aviation OK. Melody Rich X881017 8kcab n5035n 0 1 - 0.6 - - - 0.6 - - 0.6 X. SZP LCL, 1/2 snap rolls L+R, Full roll L, unusual attitudes, pattern work X. 1 go around. Rich Stowell X881023 pa24-180 n6755p 0 1 0.9 0.9 - - 0.3 - 0.9 - 0.9 X. SBA SZP SMO, return from LAFI. MVFR SMO. B. Horn safety. D. Lipman. END-of-log.smp echo x - readme sed 's/^X//' >readme << 'END-of-readme' XLegal Stuff X XThe files in this package (listed below) are hereby placed into the PUBLIC XDOMAIN. That means you can do anything you want with them - redistribute Xthem, modify them, sell them, print them out and make paper airplanes out Xof them, etc. X XIt would be nice if you left in any "Credit" lines, and if you added Xdescriptions of any modifications you make. If you find the program Xuseful, drop me a note. X XJordan Brown Xjbrown@quake.com (This isn't the best address, but it's probably the one X that'll be good the longest.) X XFiles included: Xreadme This file. Xsumlog.sh Bourne shell script to analyze log file. Xsumlog.bat MS-DOS batch file to analyze log file. Xlog.smp Sample log file. Xlog.out Output of "sumlog -type -airplane log.smp". Xtypes.lst Classifications of various types of aircraft. Xex.rc .exrc file defining useful function keys for vi. Xfixlog.awk AWK program useful for reformatting log file. Xsumlog.awk AWK program that does log file analysis. X XRevision History: X X09/29/93 Jordan Brown XAutomatic type categorization. Miscellaneous cleanup. X XA-Long-Time-Ago Jordan Brown XFirst public release. X Xsumlog.sh and sumlog.bat will print usage messages if invoked with no Xarguments. log.smp and types.lst include documentation on their respective Xformats. X Xex.rc defines function keys 1 and 2 to enter the ID and type of the aircraft XI fly most frequently, to reduce slightly the typing required. X Xfixlog.awk is an AWK program that reads a log file and, well, writes it Xout unmodified. It's useful as a skeleton for a conversion program when Xthe log file format changes. X XUnder MSDOS I use PolyAWK, which used to be published by Polytron. XI think they got bought and I don't know who publishes it now. XAny UNIX awk should work. END-of-readme echo x - sumlog.awk sed 's/^X//' >sumlog.awk << 'END-of-sumlog.awk' X#! /bin/awk -f X# Credit: Original 1993 Jordan Brown X# PUBLIC DOMAIN - see readme X XBEGIN { X bytype = 0; X byairplane = 0; X start = 0; X stop = 999999; X } X X$1=="option" && $2=="stop" && NF==3 { X stop = $3; X next; X } X X$1=="option" && $2=="start" && NF==3 { X start = $3; X next; X } X X$1=="option" && $2=="progress" && NF==3 { X progress = $3; X next; X } X X$1=="option" && $2=="type" && NF==2 { X bytype = 1; X next; X } X X$1=="option" && $2=="airplane" && NF==2 { X byairplane = 1; X next; X } X X$1=="option" { X printf "Warning: Bad option line ignored:\n"; X print; X next; X } X XNR%100==0 { X printf "." > progress; X } X Xlength==0 { next; } # ignore blank lines X X$1=="." { next; } # ignore comments X X$1=="type" { X type_known[$2] = 1; X for(i = 3; i <= NF; i++) { X cat[$i] += type[$2]; X } X next; X } X X$1>=start && $1<=stop { X type[$2]+=$14; X airplane[$3]+=$14; X X app+=$4; X ldg+=$5; X X xc+=$6; X day+=$7; X night+=$8; X acti+=$9; X simi+=$10; X X dual+=$11; X pic+=$12; X sic+=$13; X } X XEND { X printf "\n" > progress; X X # Print the columns that are in my logbook ("The Standard X # Pilot Log"); if you use a different logbook you might X # want this different. X X printf "%6d InstApp %6d Ldgs ",app,ldg; X X printf "%6.1f Other ", cat["Other"]; X cat_printed["Other"] = 1; X printf "%6.1f ASEL ", cat["ASEL"]; X cat_printed["ASEL"] = 1; X printf "%6.1f AMEL ", cat["AMEL"]; X cat_printed["AMEL"] = 1; X X printf "\n"; X X printf "%6.1f XC ",xc; X printf "%6.1f Day ",day; X printf "%6.1f Night ",night; X printf "%6.1f ActIns ",acti; X printf "%6.1f SimIns ",simi; X X printf "\n"; X X printf "%6.1f Simul ", cat["Simul"]; X cat_printed["Simul"] = 1; X X printf "%6.1f Dual ",dual; X printf "%6.1f PIC ",pic; X printf "%6.1f SIC ",sic; X X # Total is printed separately X cat_printed["Total"] = 1; X X printf "\n"; X X # Print any "unknown" categories X j = 0; X for (i in cat) { X if(cat[i] > 0 && !cat_printed[i]) { X if(j++%5 == 0) printf "\n"; X else printf " "; X printf "%6.1f %-7s", cat[i], i; X } X } X if(j > 0) printf "\n"; X X printf "\n%6.1f Total\n",cat["Total"]; X X j = 0; X for (i in type) { X if(!type_known[i]) { X if(j == 0) { X printf "WARNING: Uncategorized types:"; X } X if(j++%3 == 0) printf "\n"; X else printf " "; X printf "%6.1f %-11s", type[i], i; X } X } X if(j) printf "\n\n"; X X X if(bytype) { X j = 0; X for (i in type) { X if(type[i] > 0) j++; X } X printf "\nBy type: (%d types)", j; X j = 0; X for (i in type) { X if(type[i] > 0) { X if(j++%3 == 0) printf "\n"; X else printf " "; X printf "%-11s%6.1f",i,type[i]; X } X } X printf "\n"; X } X X if(byairplane) { X j = 0; X for (i in airplane) j++; X printf "\nBy airplane: (%d airplanes)", j; X j = 0; X for (i in airplane) { X if(j++%5 == 0) printf "\n"; X else printf " "; X printf "%-6s%6.1f",i,airplane[i]; X } X printf "\n"; X } X } END-of-sumlog.awk echo x - sumlog.bat sed 's/^X//' >sumlog.bat << 'END-of-sumlog.bat' X@echo off Xrem Credit: Original 1993 Jordan Brown Xrem PUBLIC DOMAIN - see readme X Xrem "option progress" is required! Xecho option progress con > sumlog.tmp X Xset sumlog_out= X X:loop X Xif not "%1" == "-type" goto loop_1 Xecho option type >> sumlog.tmp Xshift Xgoto loop X:loop_1 X Xif not "%1" == "-plane" goto loop_2 Xecho option airplane >> sumlog.tmp Xshift Xgoto loop X:loop_2 X Xif not "%1" == "-quiet" goto loop_3 Xecho option progress nul >> sumlog.tmp Xshift Xgoto loop X:loop_3 X Xif not "%1" == "-out" goto loop_4 Xif "%2" == "" goto err Xset sumlog_out=%2 Xshift Xshift Xgoto loop X:loop_4 X Xif not "%1" == "-start" goto loop_5 Xif "%2" == "" goto err Xecho option start %2 >> sumlog.tmp Xshift Xshift Xgoto loop X:loop_5 X Xif not "%1" == "-stop" goto loop_6 Xif "%2" == "" goto err Xecho option stop %2 >> sumlog.tmp Xshift Xshift Xgoto loop X:loop_6 X Xif not "%2" == "" goto err Xif not "%1" == "" goto doit X:err Xecho usage: sumlog [options] logfile Xecho logfile is the name of the log file. (Duh.) Xecho Options are: Xecho -type gives a summary by type. Xecho -plane gives a summary by individual aircraft. Xecho -quiet suppresses the dot printed every 100 lines while reading the log. Xecho -start yymmdd sets start date Xecho -stop yymmdd sets stop date Xecho -out filename writes output to filename. Xgoto done X:doit Xif "%sumlog_out%" == "" goto noout Xawk -f sumlog.awk sumlog.tmp %1 types.lst > %sumlog_out% Xgoto done X:noout Xawk -f sumlog.awk sumlog.tmp %1 types.lst X:done Xerase sumlog.tmp Xset sumlog_out= END-of-sumlog.bat echo x - sumlog.sh sed 's/^X//' >sumlog.sh << 'END-of-sumlog.sh' X#! /bin/sh X# Credit: Original 1993 Jordan Brown X# PUBLIC DOMAIN - see readme X Xtmp=/tmp/sumlog.$$ Xtrap 'rm $tmp' 0 X X# "option progress" is required! Xecho option progress /dev/tty > $tmp X Xwhile : Xdo X case "$1" in X -type) X echo option type >> $tmp X shift X ;; X -plane) X echo option airplane >> $tmp X shift X ;; X -quiet) X echo option progress /dev/null >> $tmp X shift X ;; X -start) X echo option start $2 >> $tmp X shift X shift X ;; X -stop) X echo option stop $2 >> $tmp X shift X shift X ;; X *) X break X ;; X esac Xdone X Xcase $# in X1) X ;; X*) X cat << '/' Xusage: sumlog [options] logfile Xlogfile is the name of the log file. (Duh.) XOptions are: X-type gives a summary by type. X-plane gives a summary by individual aircraft. X-quiet suppresses the dot printed every 100 lines while reading the log. X-start yymmdd sets start date X-stop yymmdd sets stop date X/ X exit X ;; Xesac X Xawk -f sumlog.awk $tmp $1 types.lst END-of-sumlog.sh echo x - types.lst sed 's/^X//' >types.lst << 'END-of-types.lst' X. Credit: Original 1993 Jordan Brown X. PUBLIC DOMAIN - see readme X X. This file describes how flight time is to be categorized based on aircraft X. type. X X. The first column must be "type". The second column must be an aircraft X. type, as from the third column of the log file. X. The third and later columns are categories this aircraft type "counts for". X. They are relatively arbitrary, but by convention the third is "Total" X. if this type counts for total time (some people say simulators don't), X. the fourth is the logbook column it goes in, and the fifth and later are X. arbitrary classifications. X X. NOTE THAT TYPES NOT LISTED HERE WILL NOT BE COUNTED AGAINST ANY OF THESE X. CATEGORIES, INCLUDING "TOTAL"!!! X X. Sumlog.awk will give a warning for any type encountered in the log which X. is not listed here. X Xtype 7eca Total ASEL TailWhl Xtype 8kcab Total ASEL TailWhl Xtype as-rv-7 Total Other HotAir Xtype ast-300 Simul ME-Sim Xtype bc-12 Total ASEL TailWhl Xtype c-310p Total AMEL Trike Retract Xtype c-177rg Total ASEL Trike Retract Xtype c-172 Total ASEL Trike Xtype c-172rg Total ASEL Trike Retract Xtype c-152 Total ASEL Trike Xtype c-152a Total ASEL Trike Xtype c-150 Total ASEL Trike Xtype grob103 Total Other Glider Xtype j3c-85hp Total ASEL TailWhl Xtype pa24-180 Total ASEL Trike Retract Xtype pa28-236 Total ASEL Trike Xtype pa28-181 Total ASEL Trike Xtype pa28-161 Total ASEL Trike Xtype pa28r-201 Total ASEL Trike Retract Xtype pa32-260 Total ASEL Trike Xtype pa32r-301t Total ASEL Trike Retract Xtype pa38-112 Total ASEL Trike END-of-types.lst exit
From: smcgrew@theocean Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Spreadsheets Date: 08 Oct 93 15:40:03 Organization: University of Oregon Distribution: fj Message-ID: <smcgrew.93Oct815403@theocean> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Hello all. I am in desprate need of good FAT spreadsheet program for little $ . Any recommendations? I am using MESA right now (the demo) and think that it is OK. I however am not a spreadsheet expert so any advice would be much appreciated. thanks. Steven McGrew smcgrew@theocean.uoregon.edu
From: stiller@rhombus.cs.jhu.edu (Lewis Stiller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.scitech,sci.math.symbolic,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: International Mathematica Users Date: 8 Oct 1993 20:36:44 -0400 Organization: The Johns Hopkins University CS Department Message-ID: <29512s$2in@rhombus.cs.jhu.edu> References: <1993Oct8.210114.9667@wri.com> In article <1993Oct8.210114.9667@wri.com>, John Brewer <jbrewer@wri.com> wrote: >We are currently in the process of making some major changes to the text >editor in the Front End for Mathematica. These will bring all sorts of >benefits (which I really can't discuss here, or even via e-mail with >people who aren't non-disclosed). They also carry the risk of less than >optimal support for international users who don't speak up now. > >Our new text editor engine will completely replace the system text >editing engines on the Mac and NextStep. As a result, we will not be >getting the built-in support of non-Roman writing systems anymore -- >some additional programming work on our part will be required to support >them. > Unless this actually gives things like context-sensitive user-definable WYSIWYG input and output of mathematical notation, I think its a waste of disc space. I hate using huge programs that spend all this time and energy on their proprietary built in editors: I just use the various emacs modes and get much more power and those users that don't, should. I'd invest the manpower in improving emacs mode, although it is currently excellent thanks to David Jacobsen. On the other hand, if you can actually do things like get the output to look like real math rather than Mathematica code, and be able to do editing on that output, for instance, click on the upperlimit of an integral and change it or something, then I'm all for it. And if you could recognize handwritten mathematical input I think you'd have an impressive system. -- Lewis Stiller Dept. of Computer Science, The Johns Hopkins University Baltimore, MD 21218-2194 email: stiller@cs.jhu.edu
From: OBS_Inc@mindlink.bc.ca (OBS Inc) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Accounting Packages for NeXT? Date: 9 Oct 93 01:19:33 GMT Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada Distribution: world Message-ID: <30243@mindlink.bc.ca> I would like information on available accounting packages for NEXTSTEP. Thanks, grant -- Objective Business Systems Inc. Phone: 604.682.0510 Fax: 604.682.6579 Email: OBS_Inc@MindLink.bc.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: lwilson@netcom.com (Louis Wilson) Subject: Modem Interface Message-ID: <lwilsonCEM0zD.JBy@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1993 03:14:00 GMT Summary: Keywords:Modem, NeXTStep 2.1 I am still running the 2.1 operating system on my slab. Does anyone know of a good modem interface application still available for 2.1??? Louis Wilson lwilson@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: oschmid@cube.de (Ottmar Schmid) Subject: Server configuration NSFIP Message-ID: <1993Oct7.093247.11154@cubenx.cube.de> Sender: oschmid@cubenx.cube.de Organization: Cube Informationssysteme, GmbH Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1993 09:32:47 GMT We tried to install a Intel PC as server with Simple Network Starter. After selecting the mounts and services I tried to build the Network. NS told me that there is not enough space or memory. (I used a 1 GB drive - 800 MB free - and 32 MB RAM). The only posibility that NS gave me was to abort. After trying several different configurations I was succesful. But I had to deselect all mounts and "e-mail post office" and to erase a small DOS partition. A friend of mine had the same problem and could solve it in a slightly different way(deselect only "post office") Any suggestions? Has anybody installed an Intel server without problems? Thanks in advance, Ottmar Schmid E-mail to oschmid@cube.de
From: hal@alfred.econ.lsa.umich.edu (Hal Varian) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.scitech,sci.math.symbolic,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: International Mathematica Users Date: 9 Oct 1993 12:10:52 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Message-ID: <2969oc$tt@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu> References: <1993Oct8.210114.9667@wri.com> <29512s$2in@rhombus.cs.jhu.edu> In article <29512s$2in@rhombus.cs.jhu.edu> stiller@rhombus.cs.jhu.edu (Lewis Stiller) writes: > >In article <1993Oct8.210114.9667@wri.com>, >John Brewer <jbrewer@wri.com> wrote: >>We are currently in the process of making some major changes to the text >>editor in the Front End for Mathematica. These will bring all sorts of >>benefits (which I really can't discuss here, or even via e-mail with >>people who aren't non-disclosed). >>optimal support for international users who don't speak up now. > >Unless this actually gives things like context-sensitive >user-definable WYSIWYG input and output of mathematical notation, I >think its a waste of disc space... >On the other hand, if you can actually do things like get the output >to look like real math rather than Mathematica code, and be able to do >editing on that output, for instance, click on the upperlimit of an >integral and change it or something, then I'm all for it. And if you >could recognize handwritten mathematical input I think you'd have >an impressive system. Steven Wolfram gave a "Mathematica Days" talk here a couple of weeks ago where he demoed the alpha version of the 2.3? Mac front end. It does precisely what you are describing---produces real mathematical output (a la TeX) with editable pieces. Also, the latest MathUser newsletter depicts the math font they intend to use. Wolfram was quite careful to say that this is still in development and is not promised for 2.3. But he also indicated that it would be available in the next one or two releases. -- Hal.Varian@umich.edu Hal Varian voice: 313-764-2364 Dept of Economics fax: 313-764-2364 Univ of Michigan Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1220
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: simsong@next.cambridge.ma.us (Simson L. Garfinkel) Subject: Kermit at high speed Message-ID: <1993Oct9.043124.5122@next.cambridge.ma.us> Sender: simsong@next.cambridge.ma.us Organization: NeXTWORLD Magazine Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1993 04:31:24 GMT anybdy have a version of Kermit for NeXTSTEP that knows about 38,400-baud serial ports? -- ................................................................simson
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: aburczyk@tnd171 (Adam Burczyk) Subject: Support costs (was Attn: Steve Jobs What a Product) Message-ID: <1993Oct9.183034.17627@fnbc.com> Sender: news@fnbc.com Organization: First National Bank Of Chicago, Chicago IL, USA Date: Sat, 9 Oct 93 18:30:34 GMT What exactly are the support costs that can be directly attributed to information that is easily found in technical documentation? I read 90% somewhere, but what is easily known by technicians on the phone is different than what is easily *knowable* to novices to the NeXT, or any other platform, for that matter. I'm sure there are Pareto charts available for the types of questions asked, and their number of incidence. Then there is the literacy curve: certain questions cropping up only when thresholds are broken. Certain questions can then be calibrated to stages of personal development on the platform, as with an almanac in a curriculum. Far cheaper to provide this as online help than with answering questions on the phone. Adam
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: program@oingo.umn.edu (Jim's Programming Account) Subject: PopOver not connecting! Message-ID: <CEnGGt.Mtv@news.cis.umn.edu> Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1993 21:43:40 GMT Hi, For some reason PopOver NeXT won't log onto my system to get mail. It says invalid username but I know its valid 'cause It has worked in the past. It's just my account on the net at port 110 like usuall. Any ideas?? Thanks,
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: program@oingo.umn.edu (Jim's Programming Account) Subject: NewsGrazer unsubscribe???? Message-ID: <CEnGKK.MwE@news.cis.umn.edu> Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1993 21:45:57 GMT Anybody know how to stop NewsGrazer from displaying every group even though it's not subscribed?? It's a little tiring having to weed through all 6000+ news groups *:o) thanks,
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: kevins@bmd.com Subject: Multi-disk packages Message-ID: <1993Oct9.033614.19401@bMD.com> Sender: kevins@bMD.com (Kevin Solie) Organization: benchMark Developments, Inc. (Lex, KY) Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1993 03:36:14 GMT Anyone know what's up with 3.1 and multi disk packages... I have installed multi disk packages that were made under 3.0 or lower but the ones I create under 3.1 seem to have a problem ejecting the first disk.... Any ideas???? -- I'll cross my heart and hope to die but the needle's already in my eye. Kevin Solie -- I'll cross my heart and hope to die but the needle's already in my eye.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) Subject: Re: NewsGrazer unsubscribe???? Message-ID: <1993Oct9.234319.24821@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: Stanford University References: <CEnGKK.MwE@news.cis.umn.edu> Date: Sat, 9 Oct 93 23:43:19 GMT Jim's Programming Account writes > Anybody know how to stop NewsGrazer from displaying every group > even though it's not subscribed?? It's a little tiring having to > weed through all 6000+ news groups *:o) thanks, Choose List View on the Group menu. -- - Stefano Pagiola Food Research Institute, Stanford University spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged) spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
From: doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu (Douglas Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Problem with imake (XNeXT on 3.0 slab) Date: 9 Oct 1993 23:22:53 GMT Organization: Center for Computer Music Research and Composition, U.C.S.B. Message-ID: <297h4d$se0@hub.ucsb.edu> References: <1993Oct8.205015.28887@news.cs.brandeis.edu> In article <1993Oct8.205015.28887@news.cs.brandeis.edu> sinclair@cs.brandeis.edu (David A. Sinclair) writes: ] ] ]Hello, netland. ] ]I'm having a problem trying to use xmkmf with the XNeXT distribution ]I've installed on my 3.0 station. I get: ] ]imake -DUseInstalled ]imake: file not found ] ](I think that's the exact message -- I'm at work, not at home with my ]NeXT right now! :) I think there may be a file missing in my ]/usr/lib/X11/config directory. Would anyone be willing to email ](can't receive NeXTmail yet -- just ascii email) a listing of what ]they have in their config directory? Or, if you think something else ]is my problem, I'd love to hear about that too! ] Firstly, it would be nice to know *which* XNeXT distribution you have. Mine from foxtrot, or an older one from columbia.edu? imake is a binary, and should be in /usr/bin/X11 with all the other X binaries like xterm, twm, etc. Do you have /usr/bin/X11 in your path? I guess so, if you have xmkmf working. I know imake is part of the distribution on my machine's archive, so it should be part of what you have, assuming you got it from my site. -- Douglas Scott | Senior Development Engineer Tel: (805) 893-8352 | Center for Computer Music Research and Composition Internet (NeXTMail ok): | Music Department <doug@ccmrc.ucsb.edu> | University of California, Santa Barbara
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: eric@whyanext.com (Eric Schwartz) Subject: Speech synthesis Message-ID: <CEnoI4.HF5@unix.portal.com> Sender: news@unix.portal.com Organization: Portal Communications Company Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1993 00:39:36 GMT Here it is once again...(this seems to be a recurring question without an answer, but maybe the right person will catch it eventually): Does anyone have any software to produce synthesised voices on the NeXT (NS 2.1 in particular)? Thanks, Eric
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: anoop@netcom.com (Anoop Tewari) Subject: Help: SLIP on NeXT workstation Message-ID: <anoopCEno7z.L6B@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1993 00:33:34 GMT I am attempting to install SLIP on NEXT workstation running version 3.0 of NEXTSTEP. I have setup DialUpIp SLIP for NeXT OS Release 2.1 by Louis A Mamakos. It is setup for dialup on demand. When I start to ping SLIP server address it times out with error log - incorrect version unable to patch kernel. Is there a version that will run with my hardware and OS version? Or is there a way to fix what I have? Please help anoop ---------------------- Anoop Tewari anoop@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jlam@shw.optics.rochester.edu (John Lam) Subject: Re: Kermit at high speed Message-ID: <1993Oct10.015251.16281@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> Sender: news@galileo.cc.rochester.edu Organization: StyleBook References: <1993Oct9.043124.5122@next.cambridge.ma.us> Date: Sun, 10 Oct 93 01:52:51 GMT Forget modem spoofing and stuff. For serial port data transfer, I just use V.42 and V.42bis. For text transfers--and uuencoded transfers, too--speeds reach between 3100-3800 chars/sec; that's a bit rate equivalent to 31000-38000. When I got my modem, before I set CTS/RTS flow control, I had gotten X-OFF/X-ON trails at the end of some transfers, because the wimpy serial port was crying "my silo is full." Two meg transfers take 10 minutes. This feature works great with tip's "take" and "put" commands. John
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: netcom.com!kira!davidjohn (David John Burrowes) Subject: SimonSays demo (Should it work under NS 3.1?) Message-ID: <1993Oct9.155550.741@kira.net.netcom.com> Sender: davidjohn@kira.net.netcom.com Organization: No organization at this time. Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1993 15:55:50 GMT Is the SimonSays demo on sonata working properly under NS 3.1? I grabbed a copy to talke a look at it (so to speak), found I needed to set my clock back for it to get started up, and then it didn't seem to respond to commands or even show all the windows the doc implied should be there. (I'm on black hardware) Thanks \david john
From: mconners@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael R Conners) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Problem with imake (XNeXT on 3.0 slab) Date: 10 Oct 1993 04:25:32 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <2982rs$bc1@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> References: <1993Oct8.205015.28887@news.cs.brandeis.edu> <297h4d$se0@hub.ucsb.e In article <297h4d$se0@hub.ucsb.edu> doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu (Douglas Scott ) writes: >In article <1993Oct8.205015.28887@news.cs.brandeis.edu> sinclair@cs.brandeis.e du (David A. Sinclair) writes: >] >] >]Hello, netland. >] >]I'm having a problem trying to use xmkmf with the XNeXT distribution >]I've installed on my 3.0 station. I get: >] >]imake -DUseInstalled >]imake: file not found >] > >Firstly, it would be nice to know *which* XNeXT distribution you have. Mine >from foxtrot, or an older one from columbia.edu? > >imake is a binary, and should be in /usr/bin/X11 with all the other X binaries >like xterm, twm, etc. Do you have /usr/bin/X11 in your path? I guess so, if >you have xmkmf working. I know imake is part of the distribution on my >machine's archive, so it should be part of what you have, assuming you got it >from my site. > There is a README file on foxtrot that mentions the imake problem and how to fix it. If you can't find it, mail me and I'll find it for you. -- *** Michael Conners - THE Ohio State University *** ** Compare and Contrast: ** Carter Administration Clinton Administration - Elvis dead - Barbra Streisand all too lively
From: rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us (Bob Peirce #305) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Appsoft Draw Message-ID: <1993Oct6.150208.20336@investor.pgh.pa.us> Date: 6 Oct 93 15:02:08 GMT References: <27s0r5$9dt@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> <27sbke$m38@TAMUTS.TAMU.EDU> Organization: Cookson, Peirce & Co., Pittsburgh, PA In article <27sbke$m38@TAMUTS.TAMU.EDU> lje0106@sigma.tamu.edu writes: >In article <27s0r5$9dt@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea >Brooks) writes: >| The "latest version" of Draw (1.02) is quite old, >| flawed, and seems to be going the way of WriteNow, >| i.e. dying if not dead. >| >I tend to agree with the flawed comment. If it is dying, what do you >suggest as a replacement? Create.app. -- Bob Peirce, Pittsburgh, PA rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us 412-471-5320 venetia@investor.pgh.pa.us [NeXT Mail] !uunet.uu.net!pitt!investor!rbp [UUCP]
From: root@blackplague.gmu.edu (Christian Smith) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NewsGrazer unsubscribe???? Date: 10 Oct 1993 13:01:41 GMT Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax Va. Message-ID: <29913l$a50@news.intercon.com> References: <CEnGKK.MwE@news.cis.umn.edu> Try using the "list" viewer instead of the browser viewer. This option is located in the Tool menu of the Group menu, I forget which. -- Christian Smith aka Blackplague PGP Public Key available by finger or request.
From: cahalan@clouds.gsfc.nasa.gov (Robert F. Cahalan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: International Mathematica Users Date: 10 Oct 1993 16:40:48 GMT Organization: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center -- InterNetNews site Distribution: world Message-ID: <299dug$c36@skates.gsfc.nasa.gov> References: <2969oc$tt@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In article <2969oc$tt@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu> hal@alfred.econ.lsa.umich.edu (Hal Varian) writes: > In article <29512s$2in@rhombus.cs.jhu.edu> stiller@rhombus.cs.jhu.edu (Lewis Stiller) writes: > > > >In article <1993Oct8.210114.9667@wri.com>, > >John Brewer <jbrewer@wri.com> wrote: > >>We are currently in the process of making some major changes to the text > >>editor in the Front End for Mathematica. These will bring all sorts of > >>benefits (which I really can't discuss here, or even via e-mail with > >>people who aren't non-disclosed). > >>optimal support for international users who don't speak up now. > > > >Unless this actually gives things like context-sensitive > >user-definable WYSIWYG input and output of mathematical notation, I > >think its a waste of disc space... > >On the other hand, if you can actually do things like get the output > >to look like real math rather than Mathematica code, and be able to do > >editing on that output, for instance, click on the upperlimit of an > >integral and change it or something, then I'm all for it. And if you > >could recognize handwritten mathematical input I think you'd have > >an impressive system. > > Steven Wolfram gave a "Mathematica Days" talk here a couple of > weeks ago where he demoed the alpha version of the 2.3? Mac > front end. It does precisely what you are describing---produces > real mathematical output (a la TeX) with editable pieces. > Also, the latest MathUser newsletter depicts the math font they > intend to use. Wolfram was quite careful to say that this > is still in development and is not promised for 2.3. But he > also indicated that it would be available in the next one or > two releases. > > > -- > Hal.Varian@umich.edu Hal Varian > voice: 313-764-2364 Dept of Economics > fax: 313-764-2364 Univ of Michigan > Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1220 This sounds like a good idea, but only if it interfaces nicely with TeX. People who write papers which are heavy in equations typically rely on TeX. Not all these equations are Mathematica-compatible, even for people who often use Mathematica, like me. It would be nice to have a little more WYSIWYG interface in MMA, but it's even more important to make it easier to get those MMA equations into TeX so we can publish them. (i.e. easier to use than the current notebook to TeX converter.) People working on this for Wolfram Research should look at EquationBuilder on the NeXT, for example. That gives you a WYSIWYG way to build equations, but the key thing is that the results can be quickly copied via the clipboard into either a TeX document (as TeX) or a WYSIWYG wordprocessor (as EPS). -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ .Dr. Robert F. Cahalan (Bob)...#..Laboratory for Atmospheres...... .cahalan@clouds.gsfc.nasa.gov..#..NASA-Goddard Space Flight Center .*** NeXTMail accepted ***.....#..Greenbelt, MD 20771............. .FAX: (301) 286-1627...........#..voice: (301) 286-4276........... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: sinclair@cs.brandeis.edu (David A. Sinclair) Subject: Re: Problem with imake (XNeXT on 3.0 slab) Message-ID: <1993Oct10.210831.7666@news.cs.brandeis.edu> Sender: news@news.cs.brandeis.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Brandeis University - Computer Science Dept. References: <1993Oct8.205015.28887@news.cs.brandeis.edu> <297h4d$se0@hub.ucsb.edu> Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1993 21:08:31 GMT In article <297h4d$se0@hub.ucsb.edu> doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu (Douglas Scott) writes: >In article <1993Oct8.205015.28887@news.cs.brandeis.edu> sinclair@cs.brandeis.edu (David A. Sinclair) writes: >] >] >]Hello, netland. >] >]I'm having a problem trying to use xmkmf with the XNeXT distribution >]I've installed on my 3.0 station. I get: >] >]imake -DUseInstalled >]imake: file not found >] > >Firstly, it would be nice to know *which* XNeXT distribution you have. Mine >from foxtrot, or an older one from columbia.edu? > Yes, it is the distribution from foxtrot, and the *exact* error message I get (from imake) is: %49 sinclair:/home/sinclair/src/c/usenet/xfract => xmkmf mv Makefile Makefile.bak imake -DUseInstalled -I/usr/lib/X11/config imake: No such file or directory: No description file. Stop. %50 sinclair:/home/sinclair/src/c/usenet/xfract => What is the file that imake is looking for and not finding? Much thanks for any helpful (or simply well-intentioned! :) pointers/advice! Cheers, David -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- David A. Sinclair - "Chester" sinclair@cs.brandeis.edu
From: doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu (Douglas Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Problem with imake (XNeXT on 3.0 slab) Date: 11 Oct 1993 05:28:59 GMT Organization: Center for Computer Music Research and Composition, U.C.S.B. Message-ID: <29aqur$cml@hub.ucsb.edu> References: <1993Oct8.205015.28887@news.cs.brandeis.edu> <297h4d$se0@hub.ucsb.edu> <1993Oct10.210831.7666@news.cs.brandeis.edu> In article <1993Oct10.210831.7666@news.cs.brandeis.edu> sinclair@cs.brandeis.edu (David A. Sinclair) writes: ] ]In article <297h4d$se0@hub.ucsb.edu> doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu (Douglas Scott) writes: ]>In article <1993Oct8.205015.28887@news.cs.brandeis.edu> sinclair@cs.brandeis.edu (David A. Sinclair) writes: ]>] ]>] ]>]Hello, netland. ]>] ]>]I'm having a problem trying to use xmkmf with the XNeXT distribution ]>]I've installed on my 3.0 station. I get: ]>] ]>]imake -DUseInstalled ]>]imake: file not found ]>] ]> ]>Firstly, it would be nice to know *which* XNeXT distribution you have. Mine ]>from foxtrot, or an older one from columbia.edu? ]> ] ]Yes, it is the distribution from foxtrot, and the *exact* error ]message I get (from imake) is: ] ]%49 sinclair:/home/sinclair/src/c/usenet/xfract => xmkmf ]mv Makefile Makefile.bak ]imake -DUseInstalled -I/usr/lib/X11/config ]imake: No such file or directory: No description file. Stop. ]%50 sinclair:/home/sinclair/src/c/usenet/xfract => ] ]What is the file that imake is looking for and not finding? Much ]thanks for any helpful (or simply well-intentioned! :) ]pointers/advice! Sorry -- if I had seen the complete error messages I would have made different comments. Here are the files you must have in /usr/lib/X11/config to use imake: -rw-r--r-- 1 root 2229 Apr 5 1993 Next.cf -r--r--r-- 1 root 2186 Jan 28 1993 site.def -r--r--r-- 1 root 21600 Jan 7 1993 Imake.tmpl -r--r--r-- 1 root 7979 Jan 7 1993 imakemdep.h -r--r--r-- 1 root 19639 Jan 5 1993 Project.tmpl -r--r--r-- 1 root 44221 Oct 6 1991 Imake.rules and maybe these two: -r--r--r-- 1 root 712 May 6 1991 Server.tmpl -r--r--r-- 1 root 3164 May 5 1992 Library.tmpl These are all in the original distribution. -- Douglas Scott | Senior Development Engineer Tel: (805) 893-8352 | Center for Computer Music Research and Composition Internet (NeXTMail ok): | Music Department <doug@ccmrc.ucsb.edu> | University of California, Santa Barbara
From: enyaw@quark.uucp (Wayne Simila-Dickinson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Adobe Illustrator Documents are not opened from Workspace Message-ID: <znr749959338k@quark.uucp> Date: 7 Oct 93 02:02:18 GMT Article-I.D.: quark.znr749959338k References: <1993Sep28.091400.3307@news.lrz-muenchen.de> Organization: Wayne's World (hiz home) In article <1993Sep28.091400.3307@news.lrz-muenchen.de> bauer@galilei.lbm.mw.tu-muenchen.de writes: > > Hi, > > On my NeXTstation with Adobe Illustrator Version 3.0.1 there seems to be > no way to open .ai-files automatically from the Workspace by > double-clicking on them. Within the Workspace-inspector-panel the only > tool that shows up for .ai-files is Edit.app. And obviously the icon of > ai-files is the one of simple text-files. > I had installed Illustrator in a directory "/2.Harddisk/LocalApps" which > was linked to "/LocalApps" (and which I once have put into the > application search-path). 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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software From: eric@whyanext.com (Eric Schwartz) Subject: Routing software on a NeXTstation? Message-ID: <CEqJxE.7vM@unix.portal.com> Sender: news@unix.portal.com Organization: Portal Communications Company Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1993 13:53:36 GMT I have a NeXTstation hooked up to the net via Mamakos' SLIP, and 3 other machines hooked up to the NeXT via ethernet. Can anyone tell me whether the NeXT (in NS 2.1) has the routing software to allow the other hosts on my LAN to send/receive TCP/IP packets to and from _Internet_ hosts using the NeXT as a gateway? I can telnet to any Internet site from the NeXT, and I receive nameservice from a host listed in /etc/resolv.conf. At the moment, the only way to do 'telnets' and 'ftps' from the Mac and the 2 PC's in question is to login to the NeXT and do it from there. I noticed the 'Router:' entry in NetManager's Local panel, so I clicked it on and rebooted. A 'netstat -s' showed an entry for the IP number that was had showed up in NetManager, but I'm not sure what this means. I've also heard of 2 PD packages that perform this routing function: BIND, and 'gated'. Perhaps someone could explain whether or not these software routers are even necessary on the NeXT, and if so, how they would be installed. Thanks, Eric
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: crath@bnr.ca (Christopher Rath) Subject: Wanted: CMN (Common Music Notation) binary Message-ID: <CRATH.93Oct11114515@bcarh911.bnr.ca> Sender: usenet@bcars6a8.bnr.ca (Use Net) Organization: Bell Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada Distribution: comp Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1993 16:45:15 GMT Can anyone point me to a binary distribution of CMN? I tried compiling it using the PCL binary on sonata, but I ran out of disk space in /tmp. Does someone have an executable version I can ftp? Thank, Christopher -- Christopher Rath | crath@bnr.ca BNR Lab 5 | Ottawa, ON, Canada | "Hydrogen is a colourless, odourless gas which, given (613) 765-3141 | enough time, turns into people." -- Henry Hiebert
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: crath@bnr.ca (Christopher Rath) Subject: Wanted: CMN (Common Music Notation) binary Message-ID: <CRATH.93Oct11115035@bcarh911.bnr.ca> Sender: usenet@bcars6a8.bnr.ca (Use Net) Organization: Bell Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada Distribution: comp Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1993 16:50:35 GMT Can anyone point me to a binary distribution of CMN? I tried compiling it using the PCL binary on sonata, but I ran out of disk space in /tmp. Does someone have an executable version I can ftp? Thank, Christopher -- Christopher Rath | crath@bnr.ca BNR Lab 5 | Ottawa, ON, Canada | "Hydrogen is a colourless, odourless gas which, given (613) 765-3141 | enough time, turns into people." -- Henry Hiebert
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bil@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt) Subject: Re: Wanted: CMN (Common Music Notation) binary Message-ID: <1993Oct11.164432.10849@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: Stanford University References: <CRATH.93Oct11114515@bcarh911.bnr.ca> Distribution: comp Date: Mon, 11 Oct 93 16:44:32 GMT In article <CRATH.93Oct11114515@bcarh911.bnr.ca> crath@bnr.ca (Christopher Rath) writes: > Can anyone point me to a binary distribution of CMN? I tried > compiling it using the PCL binary on sonata, but I ran out of disk > space in /tmp. Does someone have an executable version I can ftp? Is this CMN from ccrma (i.e. is it my program you're trying to run?). If so, which lisp are you using? If it's some version of ACL from Franz, I believe it's illegal to make an executable binary available. If it's akcl, I've never tried to save the lisp image as a separate program in akcl, so I'm not sure how big it would be -- in ACL it comes to about 10 or 11 MBytes, which is too big for our limited ftp server disk space. bil@ccrma.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: abell@netcom.com (Steven T. Abell) Subject: TipTop Message-ID: <abellCEqr6p.C6@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) Distribution: na Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1993 16:30:24 GMT Has anyone run Pedja Bogdanovich's TipTop program as setuid uucp.daemon? Any problems? Steve abell@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: wfc@cl.cam.ac.uk (William Clocksin) Subject: Does Mac have anything like Edit? Message-ID: <1993Oct11.165603.19709@infodev.cam.ac.uk> Sender: news@infodev.cam.ac.uk (USENET news) Organization: U of Cambridge, England Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1993 16:56:03 GMT Sorry for the stupid question, but can anybody tell me whether an application like NeXTStep's Edit.app is available for the Mac? Given that NeXT users who know the Mac are more numerous than Mac users who know the NeXT, posting to this newsgroup is not as daft as it looks.
From: jfosback@darkwing.uoregon.edu (Jason Fosback) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: PopOver not connecting! Date: 11 Oct 1993 19:49:03 GMT Organization: University of Oregon Message-ID: <29cdbf$d0v@pith.uoregon.edu> References: <CEnGGt.Mtv@news.cis.umn.edu> In article <CEnGGt.Mtv@news.cis.umn.edu>, program@oingo.umn.edu (Jim's Programming Account) writes: > > Hi, > For some reason PopOver NeXT won't log onto my system to get mail. It > says invalid username but I know its valid 'cause It has worked in the > past. It's just my account on the net at port 110 like usuall. > Any ideas?? > Thanks, Did PopOver ever work before? It sounds like it did from your post, but I want to make sure. Can you still connect normally to your account? If you can, try this: % telnet <host> 110 And see if it connects. If it does, type QUIT, and let me know. Please reply via e-mail. -jason ___________________________________________________________________ Jason Fosback, User Support Analyst | No sir, I didn't like it ---- University of Oregon ---- | -R&S Internet: jfosback@oregon.uoregon.edu | Star Trek: NeXT mail: jfosback@darkwing.uoregon.edu | The NeXT Generation...
From: herring@dannug.dk (Erick Herring) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: InTouch vs. SBook Date: 11 Oct 1993 19:59:27 GMT Organization: Danish NeXT Users Group Message-ID: <HERRING.93Oct11205928@brutus.dannug.dk> References: <Oct.1.17.27.30.1993.26823@gandalf.rutgers.edu> <1993Oct2.160451.299@parsec.mixcom.com> In-reply-to: alberto@parsec.mixcom.com's message of Sat, 2 Oct 1993 16:04:51 GMT [ No, this is not _really_ a flame -- you can tell because you are ] [ walking away from the scene unscathed -- but I am a teensy bit ] [ irritated... ] Alberto sez: | InTouch's parser isn't as developed as SBook's - YET, but | it will be - and VERY soon, we are dedicating several | resources to this. | The international version due out this month will | address all these problems. Right now InTouch expects | addresses to be laid out the way that the US Post Office | recommends - usually the important line is the last and | the decisive factor in the recognition sequence. | | For US addresses: | City, State Zip | | For Foreign addresses: | City, Whatever Zip | COUNTRY IN CAPS OK, I normally do not reply to nine day old threads, but this has just pushed me over the edge. Both SBook and InTouch are so hopelessly Americanocentric. I am an American. I live in Europe. Based on these qualifications, and being that I am a software buyer and developer, I feel perfectly secure saying that 99% of US-based developers wouldn't know an internationalization-issue if it bit them on the ass. To the point, though. Alberto, we don't _want_ you telling us about our address and telephone formats. Here in Denmark, it is not uncommon to see addresses that look like this: H Data H Data v/ Erick Herring Att.: Erick Herring Sonderbro 4B, 4.tv. -or- Sonderbro 4B, 4.tv. DK-9000 Aalborg 9000 Aalborg Danmark Denmark On the other hand, I have yet to see an address of the format that you describe above. Except when we have to get things from the US. Addresses in the above format actually make our post office irritable and prone to misplace things. It can get even "wierder" other places in Europe. As to telephone numbers, InTouch and SBook just lose. In Europe, one cannot rely on a set number of digits, a consistent "area-code" format, a consistent country code format, or a convention of using dashes or spaces. The following are all normal representations of a telephone number in Denmark: +45 98 10 92 57 (+45) 98.10.92.57 45'98'10'92'57 45 98 10 92 57 (+45) 98109257 +45-98109257 45-98109257 My message is this: Do it right, or don't bother. The only "right" way for a company that does not have internationalization resources is to make a template file so that the user can "code" her own format. You could always contract someone in the target country to write a default template for that country, and "power-users" could customize to their heart's content. Regards, Erick -- ----- Erick Herring | Computation is the art of carefully throwing H Data, Aalborg | away information [and] Life is the art of SysAdmin & Programming | carefully throwing away opportunities, an herring@dannug.dk | interesting coincidental parallel. (+45) 98 10 92 57 | - Guy L. Steele Jr.
Control: cancel <CRATH.93Oct11114515@bcarh911.bnr.ca> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: crath@bnr.ca (Christopher Rath) Subject: cancel <CRATH.93Oct11114515@bcarh911.bnr.ca> Message-ID: <CRATH.93Oct11140015@bcarh20d.bnr.ca> Sender: usenet@bcars6a8.bnr.ca (Use Net) Organization: Bell Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada Distribution: comp Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1993 19:00:15 GMT
Control: cancel <CRATH.93Oct11115035@bcarh911.bnr.ca> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: crath@bnr.ca (Christopher Rath) Subject: cancel <CRATH.93Oct11115035@bcarh911.bnr.ca> Message-ID: <CRATH.93Oct11140034@bcarh20d.bnr.ca> Sender: usenet@bcars6a8.bnr.ca (Use Net) Organization: Bell Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada Distribution: comp Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1993 19:00:34 GMT
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: crath@bnr.ca (Christopher Rath) Subject: CMN (Common Music Notation) binary Message-ID: <CRATH.93Oct11140144@bcarh20d.bnr.ca> Sender: usenet@bcars6a8.bnr.ca (Use Net) Organization: Bell Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada Distribution: comp Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1993 19:01:44 GMT Can anyone point me to a binary distribution of CMN? I tried compiling it using the PCL binary on sonata, but I ran out of disk space in /tmp. Does someone have an executable version I can ftp? Thanks, Christopher -- Christopher Rath | crath@bnr.ca BNR Lab 5 | Ottawa, ON, Canada | "Hydrogen is a colourless, odourless gas which, given (613) 765-3141 | enough time, turns into people." -- Henry Hiebert
From: farach@dimacs.rutgers.edu (Martin Farach) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: help with term Message-ID: <FARACH.93Oct11215806@dimacs.rutgers.edu> Date: 12 Oct 93 02:58:06 GMT Sender: farach@dimacs.rutgers.edu Organization: /dimacs/u5/farach/.organization Dear NeTWoRLD, I've been trying to get "term" to work over a serial line. The instruction suggest typing term >/dev/cua </dev/cua but directing stuff into or out of /dev/cua give a "Permission Denied", even when I change the ownership of term to uucp. Any idea? Thanks, Martin Farach -- Martin Farach farach@cs.rutgers.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: netcom.com!kira!davidjohn (David John Burrowes) Subject: SUMMARY: Text to speach Message-ID: <1993Oct12.003409.452@kira.net.netcom.com> Sender: davidjohn@kira.net.netcom.com Organization: No organization at this time. Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1993 00:34:09 GMT I posted the following message recently: > I've noticed that Trillium Sound Research has a TextToSpeech kit available > for NeXTSTEP. Does anyone have any experience with this product in any > form? How good is the sound? Are there demos anywhere, etc? I recieved more requests for whatever I learned than actual information. So, I'm posting this summary of what I learned. One person reported that they had the software, but found the voice to be somewhat synthetic (because it used synthesis of phonemes rather than samplings of human voices) One person said that they believed (but was not certain) that the software package is a commercial version of an older program called BigMouth (which they reported did not have very good quality). The person I emailed with from Trillium, Leonard Manzara, said that their product has no relation, however. Finally, the fellow at Trillium sent me a copy of an old blurb about the product which I'm including at the end of this. One of my big questions is, of course, how good is the speech quality in reference to that which I am familiar with (Macintalk and the newer PlainTalk stuff that Apple has released). he did say that the quality was better than Macintalk. I'd still really like to hear from anyone else in net-land who has used this product and can compare it with others. \david john burrowes Package: TextToSpeech Kit Platform: NeXT Computers, Intel hardware under NeXTSTEP (needs additional sound hardware) Description: The TextToSpeech Kit does unrestricted conversion of English text to synthesized speech in real-time. The user has full control over speaking rate, median pitch, stereo balance, volume, and intonation type. Text of any length can be spoken, and several text messages can be queued up, from multiple applications if desired. Real-time controls such as pause, continue, and erase are included. Pronunciations are derived primarily by dictionary look-up. The Main Dictionary has nearly 100,000 hand-edited pronunciations. These pronunciations can be supplemented or overridden with the User and Application dictionaries, which are created by the user with the PrEditor utility. A sophisticated number parser handles all numbers in any form. A letter-to-sound knowledge base provides pronunciations for words not in the Main or customized dictionaries. Dictionary search order is under user control. Special modes of text input are available for spelling and emphasis of words or phrases. The actual conversion of text to speech is done by the TextToSpeech Server. The Server runs as an independent task in the background, and can handle up to 50 client connections. The operation of the Server is completely transparent to the programmer and user. The TextToSpeech Kit comes in two packages: the Developer Kit and the User Kit. The Developer Kit enables developers to build and test applications which incorporate text-to-speech. It includes the TextToSpeech Server, the TextToSpeech Object (which provides client access to the Server for applications), the pronunciation editor PrEditor, several example applications including a general text-to-speech service provider, special phonetic fonts (for PrEditor), example source code, and full developer documentation. The User Kit provides the functionality to support any application which incorporates text-to-speech. It is a subset of the Developer Kit, and includes the TextToSpeech Server, PrEditor, the general text-to-speech application, and phonetic fonts for PrEditor. The User Kit can be upgraded to the Developer Kit at reasonable cost. Hardware: Uses standard NeXT Computer hardware. Intel hardware needs additional sound hardware. We plan to support boards made by Harvard Toolworks and iLink; support for other boards will be announced as they become available. Please note that the above cards and their drivers are not yet shipping; contact the manufacturers for current availability. Cost: TextToSpeech User Kit: $175 CDN ($145 US) **SPECIAL OFFER** $115 CDN ($95 US), till July 31st, 1993 TextToSpeech Developer Kit: $350 CDN ($290 US) Upgrade from User to Developer Kit: $175 CDN ($145 US) Please note that the Kits for Intel are expected to ship in the 4th quarter of 1993, depending upon availability of 3rd Party sound hardware and drivers. Motorola versions have been shipping since August of 1992. Availability: Trillium Sound Research 1500, 112 - 4th Ave. S.W. Calgary, Alberta, Canada T2P 0H3 Tel: (403) 284-9278 Fax: (403) 282-6778 Order Desk: 1-800-L-ORATOR (US and Canada only) Email: manzara@cpsc.UCalgary.CA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: preuss@netcom.com (Peter Preuss) Subject: Re: help with term Message-ID: <preussCErLKs.J3@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) References: <FARACH.93Oct11215806@dimacs.rutgers.edu> Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1993 03:26:52 GMT Martin Farach (farach@dimacs.rutgers.edu) wrote: : Dear NeTWoRLD, : I've been trying to get "term" to work over a serial line. The : instruction suggest typing : term >/dev/cua </dev/cua : but directing stuff into or out of /dev/cua give a "Permission : Denied", even when I change the ownership of term to uucp. I just picked up term a couple of days ago and it works like a charm with the following setup: permissions in /dev: crw-rw-rw- 1 uucp wheel 11,192 Oct 8 21:19 cua crw-rw-rw- 1 uucp wheel 11,193 Oct 3 14:42 cub crw-rw-rw- 1 uucp wheel 11,224 Oct 11 20:11 cufa crw-rw-rw- 1 uucp wheel 11,225 May 5 00:39 cufb the following in ~/.kermrc: set line /dev/cufa <- I have a hardware-handshakeable cable set speed 19200 set esc 24 set buffers 16384 16384 set sen pack 1024 set rec pack 1024 set window 8 set modem hayes define netcom dial 985-5650 define cis dial 434-1580 define rz run rz </dev/cufa >/dev/cufa define term run term </dev/cufa >/dev/cufa I start my session from a Terminal window, invoke kermit, connect to netcom, log on and start "term" there (no greeting, term seems to be terse). Then I escape to the local kermit prompt (CTRL-X C in my case) and invoke the macro term. After opening more Terminal windows and issueing "trsh" I end up with a couple of virtual sessions on netcom. 1 [netcom4] /u39/preuss > ps PID TT STAT TIME COMMAND 22749 pa IW 0:00 -tcsh (tcsh) 22765 pa S 1:00 term 22950 r9 IW 0:00 -usr/local/bin/tcsh (tcsh) 28011 r9 IW 0:03 /usr/local/bin/tin118 -q 28624 r9 IW 0:00 sh -c /usr/ucb/vi /u39/preuss/.article 28625 r9 S 0:01 /usr/ucb/vi /u39/preuss/.article 22782 tb IW 0:00 -usr/local/bin/tcsh (tcsh) 22791 tb S 0:00 iostat 60 29790 u9 S 0:00 -usr/local/bin/tcsh (tcsh) 29835 u9 R 0:00 ps 22799 v7 IW 0:00 -usr/local/bin/tcsh (tcsh) 2 [netcom4] /u39/preuss > Transfers in the background can be done with "tupload". Peter. PS: Did anybody figure out the "tredir" part? Or an -NXHost replacement for "txconn"? -- preuss@futon.sfsu.edu San Francisco State University
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jeffblum@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Jeffrey Robert Blum) Subject: Re: SUMMARY: Text to speach Message-ID: <1993Oct12.032729.21804@Princeton.EDU> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University References: <1993Oct12.003409.452@kira.net.netcom.com> Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1993 03:27:29 GMT It would be nice if Trillium would put a few samples of their kit's output on the archives, or perhaps NeXTmail sample sounds of particular strings to potential customers. This would at least give some idea of the kit's capabilities. Or maybe there is a good reason why they haven't that I haven't thought of. Or maybe they already have, and I just missed it. -jeff -- "His eyes were eggs of unstable crystal, vibrating with a frequency whose name was rain and the sound of trains, suddenly sprouting a humming forest of hair-fine glass spines." --Neuromancer
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: cew@quark.Stanford.EDU (Carlin E. Wiegner) Subject: co-Xist question..... Message-ID: <1993Oct12.033422.4839@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: Stanford University Date: Tue, 12 Oct 93 03:34:22 GMT Two questions: 1) If I'm in takeover mode how do I flip back to NeXTSTEP without quitting? 2) How do I change my preferences back to integrated from takeover if everytime co-Xist boots up it goes directly into take over mode? CW Please email replies...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: wkwong@bode.eng.ohio-state.edu (Waihon Andrew Kwong) Subject: Re: help with term Message-ID: <1993Oct12.041855.8610@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu> Sender: news@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu Organization: The Ohio State University Dept of Electrical Engineering References: <FARACH.93Oct11215806@dimacs.rutgers.edu> Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1993 04:18:55 GMT In article <FARACH.93Oct11215806@dimacs.rutgers.edu> farach@dimacs.rutgers.edu (Martin Farach) writes: >Dear NeTWoRLD, > >I've been trying to get "term" to work over a serial line. The >instruction suggest typing > >term >/dev/cua </dev/cua > >but directing stuff into or out of /dev/cua give a "Permission >Denied", even when I change the ownership of term to uucp. > >Any idea? Did you try to use the TipTop from FTP site?? It is just plug and play! Andy
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Quick Guide to the comp.sys.next.* newsgroups Date: 12 Oct 1993 00:34:31 -0400 Organization: Next Announcements Message-ID: <29dc4k$1qd@digifix.digifix.com> The current menagerie: comp.sys.next.advocacy This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. comp.sys.next.announce Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) The NEXTSTEP FAQs are posted here monthly as well. This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. comp.sys.next.bugs A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well. comp.sys.next.hardware Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. comp.sys.next.marketplace NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. comp.sys.next.misc For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! comp.sys.next.programmer Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. The NEXTSTEP programmer FAQs are posted here. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. comp.sys.next.software This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. comp.sys.next.sysadmin Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. related Newsgroups comp.soft-sys.nextstep Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. comp.lang.objective-c Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. comp.object Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep-d next-advocacy-d next-announce-d next-bugs-d next-hardware-d next-marketplace-d next-misc-d next-programmer-d next-software-d next-sysadmin-d (For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to <digestif@antigone.com>). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's. To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying: SUB Listname YourName Example: SUB next-hardware-d John Doe -------------------------------------------------------------------- Written by: Eric P. Scott eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU Minor editing: Scott Anguish sanguish@digifix.com Additions from: Greg Anderson (Greg_Anderson@afs.com) and Michael Pizolato (Michael_Pizolato@afs.com)
From: Roland Telfeyan <roland@gomidas.mi.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: maximize free space on 100MB slab ? Date: 12 Oct 1993 05:49:51 GMT Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept. Distribution: world Message-ID: <29dghv$m5t@zip.eecs.umich.edu> For NS 3.1 on a 100 MB slab, I'd like to clear out as many files as I can just to run basic NEXTSTEP applications like Edit, WriteNow, PasteUp, Diagram, Draw, Illustrator, SoftPC, and the like. I'd like to remove all Unix things except perhaps a few basic ucb text processing things. Is there a list or FAQ lying around that tells what files can safely be pruned? Thanks a lot, Roland
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: gvh@metrosoft.com (Gordon Van Huizen) Subject: Re: SimonSays demo (Should it work under NS 3.1?) Message-ID: <1993Oct12.014351.3350@metrosoft.com> Sender: gvh@metrosoft.com Organization: Metrosoft References: <1993Oct9.155550.741@kira.net.netcom.com> Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1993 01:43:51 GMT In article <1993Oct9.155550.741@kira.net.netcom.com> netcom.com!kira!davidjohn (David John Burrowes) writes: > Is the SimonSays demo on sonata working properly under NS > 3.1? I grabbed a copy to talke a look at it (so to speak), > found I needed to set my clock back for it to get started up, > and then it didn't seem to respond to commands or even show > all the windows the doc implied should be there. (I'm on > black hardware) SimonSays is now a Metrosoft product, and to be honest I didn't know there was a demo copy on Purdue. It most definately won't run under NS 3.1. We'll place a current demo copy out there soon (assuming there is room on sonata - last time we attempted to place software there it was full). In the meantime a demo that runs on 3.1 is available on the Electronic AppWrapper. Sorry for the inconvenience. If you have any other questions about Simon or any of the other Metrosoft products, feel free to send e-mail to info@metrosoft.com. Regards, Gordon Van Huizen President, Metrosoft -- Gordon Van Huizen vox: 619.488.9411 fax: 619.488.3045 Metrosoft gvh@metrosoft.com [NeXTmail welcome]
From: bostrov@flurry (Vareck Bostrom) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: help with term Message-ID: <29djevINNdtq@flop.ENGR.ORST.EDU> Date: 12 Oct 93 06:39:27 GMT Article-I.D.: flop.29djevINNdtq References: <preussCErLKs.J3@netcom.com> Distribution: world Organization: College of Engineering, Oregon State University Peter Preuss writes > > Peter. > PS: Did anybody figure out the "tredir" part? Or an -NXHost replacement > for "txconn"? tredir part? Well, it allows you to redirect sockets across the term link. For example, right now I'm at home on a NeXT reading news from the school's news server (via NNTP). Once you have term up and running, redirect your local news socket to the remote socket on the news server. My home machine is called "venus", the machine I run term on at school (the other end of the term link) is called "pong" and "flop.engr.orst.edu" is the NNTP server. So: from "venus" : venus:# tredir 119 flop.engr.orst.edu:119 (you must be root to redirect the news socket) FIre up newsgrazer and set it's nntp server to "venus" and it'll work just fine. I don't know if that is what you wanted to know..but there you go. - Vareck
From: enyaw@quark.uucp (Wayne Simila-Dickinson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Game Request - Poker or Blackjack Message-ID: <znr750289444k@quark.uucp> Date: 10 Oct 93 21:44:04 GMT Article-I.D.: quark.znr750289444k References: <28tb1sINN8ti@uwm.edu> Organization: Wayne's World (hiz home) In article <28tb1sINN8ti@uwm.edu> xepo@csd4.csd.uwm.edu writes: > > In article <1993Oct1.161818.1460@weston.com> jspears@weston.com writes: > >I would like a NeXTSTEP poker or blackjack game. I checked the archives, > >but I could find nothing. > > Well, I don't know where to find one, but if we are on the wish list > thing I would like to see Mah Jong available (not the tile matching > one but the poker like version). Better yet, if some one fully > understands how to play and wouldn't mind explaining it to me I just > might be able to make my own. I believe that 2.1 shiped w/poker as a demo... I think that's where I got it... -- more later. -Wayne ++===================================================================++ || Friends don't let friends use QWK on USENET || ++===================================================================++
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: simsong@next.cambridge.ma.us (Simson L. Garfinkel) Subject: Re: InTouch vs. SBook Message-ID: <1993Oct12.121300.4692@next.cambridge.ma.us> Sender: simsong@next.cambridge.ma.us Organization: NeXTWORLD Magazine References: <HERRING.93Oct11205928@brutus.dannug.dk> Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1993 12:13:00 GMT In article <HERRING.93Oct11205928@brutus.dannug.dk> herring@dannug.dk (Erick Herring) writes: > H Data H Data > v/ Erick Herring Att.: Erick Herring > Sonderbro 4B, 4.tv. -or- Sonderbro 4B, 4.tv. > DK-9000 Aalborg 9000 Aalborg > Danmark Denmark > SBook will parse the address on the right correctly. It won't get the one on the left hand side, because Denmark is spelled Danmark. SBook wasn't written with foreign addresses in mind, but it does okay with some of them. I should point out that, while I am somewhat familiar with the workings of SBook, it is now being maintained and marketed by Sarrus software. > As to telephone numbers, InTouch and SBook just lose. In Europe, one > cannot rely on a set number of digits, a consistent "area-code" > format, a consistent country code format, or a convention of using > dashes or spaces. The following are all normal representations of a > telephone number in Denmark: > > +45 98 10 92 57 > (+45) 98.10.92.57 > 45'98'10'92'57 > 45 98 10 92 57 > (+45) 98109257 > +45-98109257 > 45-98109257 > SBook recognizes the last one of these as a phone number. Now that you have told us, it will recognize the others as well. -- ................................................................simson
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: joc@ubszh.net.ch Subject: Sharing calendars betweeb NEXTSTEP and MS-DOS Content-Type: text/plain Message-ID: <joc.93Oct12135653@nol502> Sender: usenet@ubszh.net.ch (news) Organization: Union Bank of Switzerland Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1993 12:56:53 GMT We would like to share calendars, addresss books etc. between MS-DOS and NEXTSTEP. Does anyone have experience/suggestions? charles Union Bank of Switzerland Charles Johler LHIS/LHDD-JOC Flurstrasse 68 CH-8048 Zurich Switzerland phone: +41 1 236 38 64 fax: +41 1 236 84 04 RFC822: joc@ubszh.net.ch (NeXT-Mail ok) X.400: charles.johler@zh001.ubs.ubs.arcom.ch
Newsgroups: sci.math.symbolic,comp.sys.next.software From: katherle@daisy.uwaterloo.ca (Kate Atherley) Subject: Re: Next Maple Session ---> Mac Maple Message-ID: <CEsHEx.7FA@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca> Keywords: Maple Sender: news@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (USENET News System) Organization: University of Waterloo References: <1993Oct8.153010.27806@sol.cs.wmich.edu> Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1993 14:54:32 GMT In article <1993Oct8.153010.27806@sol.cs.wmich.edu>, Kurt Hozak <92hozak@lab.cc.wmich.edu> wrote: >I apologize if this is obvious, but how can I save a session of Maple done >on a NeXTstep system so that a Mac can read in the session? When I try to >open or import on the mac, the session is either badly garbled or the >entire Mac crashes with a system error. I used a normal (ie, from the >menu) save on the NeXT side. I don't have any information on the >significance of the internals.m file or the mapledoc files that are >produced when I save, and I suppose that is the key... It is not possible to transfer worksheets between Maple V for NeXT and Maple V or Maple V Release 2 for Mac. Worksheets are designed to be transferable between all versions of Release 2, but since the NeXT is not yet at Release 2, this won't be possible. To achieve a standard save format for worksheets for Release 2, some changes were necessary from the Release 1 worksheet save format. If you have further questions, please contact Technical Support at support@maplesoft.on.ca . Kate Waterloo Maple Software Technical Support support@maplesoft.on.ca
From: jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Joseph W Reiss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.mail.elm Subject: Problems w/ Elm 2.4 on NS 3.1 Date: 12 Oct 1993 16:08:07 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <29ekp7$ij6@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Hey, lo! I'm having problems getting elm to work on my NeXTStation Color running NeXTSTEP 3.1. Having just brought my SLIP connection up this past weekend, I've been enjoying the perks of mail access from my home base here without the need to login to my actual account on the campus net. But I've also found that there are some things that I really don't like using Mail for (such as including the output of scripts in my mail, which is something I do routinely). I missed elm and being able to edit with a full blown emacs, etc. So I pulled down elm 2.4 from an ftp site and built it. The compile seemed to go just fine, but things start going wacko when I actually run the program. First, if I try to use the .elm directory from my campus account, elm starts spitting out all sorts of garbage, complaining that it can't interpret parts of my elmrc file. But the strings it shows are complete gibberish and appear nowhere in elmrc. If I rename .elm and try to have it create a new one, the program just terminates when it tries to make the directory. Similar behavior occurs with the ~/Mail directory. If I hand make those two directories, elm runs, but it maps keys all wrong. If I go into options, it won't recognize when I type ">" to save the options. It says something about an unrecognized command. I have to hold down the shift key when I type "i" to return to the index. Many other places also require me to use the shift key when I shouldn't have to. The result is complete and utter confusion on my part. Does anybody out there know what's going wrong? As always, any and all help is greatly appreciated! Joe -- __________ | NeXTMail? We can do NeXTMail!!! | |___) | """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" \_/OE | \EISS | But Keptin...evweyone knows that .sigs vere inwented `---- | by a wittle old lady in Wussia? In SIGovia, I beweive.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: isenhour@linac.fnal.gov (John Isenhour x3401) Subject: New to NeXT, need advice Message-ID: <IO41-S76S@linac.fnal.gov> Sender: isenhour@linac.fnal.gov (John Isenhour x3401) Organization: Fermiland, Batavia, IL Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1993 16:08:30 GMT I'd like to set up a PD mail/fileserver similar to a listserve on a NeXT machine and I'm not sure what would build easiest. I'd also like to setup an anonymouse ftp (i/o) area in a secure manner. I'm new to this machine and would appreicate any advice. Is there a faq for comp.sys.next.*? Also wondering about: is there, or does it doable - ksh or bash for a shell (I'll do remote login most of the time) and what about elm? I'd appreicate direct mail replies, and can summarize if its worth it. tnx! John isenhour@hep.net or isenhour@lambic.fnal.gov
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: tlm@tantalus.scl.ameslab.gov (Tom Marchioro) Subject: Re: InTouch vs. SBook Message-ID: <CEsLr1.Fwq@news.iastate.edu> Sender: news@news.iastate.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA References: <1993Oct12.121300.4692@next.cambridge.ma.us> Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1993 16:28:13 GMT Simson L. Garfinkel writes: <<information about making SBook more internationalized>> []I should point out that, while I am somewhat familiar with the workings of []SBook, it is now being maintained and marketed by Sarrus software. [] []SBook recognizes the last one of these as a phone number. Now that you have []told us, it will recognize the others as well. [] Well, given the comments above I'm not sure who to bug, errr.... ooops, shouldn't say "bug" to a programmer, how about "who to bother" instead.... about a couple of things I've wanted added to SBook from the beginning (and I say that as someone who loves his copy and has publicly praised the product on several occasions). On the InTouch side I guess Manuel is the obvious person to aim this at (by the way Mr. Ricart, while it seems to be a nice little program, three minutes is a completely inadequate period for demonstration purposes. I want to see what some of the fancier features are compared to SBook, and it's all I can do to get the basic layout of the program in 3 minute blocks). Anyway, there are two things I would like to see added to both of these programs: 1) An optional "Salutation" field (this should be absolutely trivial) for the bulk E-mailings, etc. That is, when I send these out I would like some of them to say something like "Dear Professor Miller" for someone I don't know that well, and "Dear Bill" for someone I do, and to have this preprended to the message. Even some of the PD programs I've seen on DOS and Mac have this feature, so I really miss it on SBook and InTouch. 2) I would love to see the ability to do BULK PHYSICAL MAIL added as well, probably via Edit.app and a template would be good enough. Despite the rise of the Internet, I still find it necessary on a fairly regular basis to communicate with lots of people by the post office. For example, I just finished a paper and it's so brilliant and insightful (why is my nose getting so large? :) that I want to send copies of it to about 25-30 people in the immediate field. A nice little one page cover letter, with suitable salutation as above, would be perfect, and I have all of the names in one of my SBook files, but I end up going through a special set of TeX macros (not particularly user friendly ones at that) to do the job instead. I'm also involved in a couple of DOE education projects where we have fairly large lists of people we send bulk mail to (application forms for fellowships and the like) and all of the cover letters are either handled on other platforms or else are completely generic, with no salutation, etc. I'd really like to see this feature added to one, or both, of these applications. Is there some reason it's missing? The info sheet on InTouch mentions "ability to mail merge with WriteNow" etc. but I'm not entirely sure what that means, could not find information on it in the Help section, nor could I figure out how to do it in the 3 minute period. By the way, just yesterday I was told to order copies of a "NeXTstep address manager" for all the people involved in one of the DOE projects above. Whichever of you can add these features gets the order :) Hope this proves helpful --- Tom -- Dr. Thomas L. Marchioro II Two-wheeled theoretical physicist Center for Physical and Computational Mathematics 515-294-5543 Ames Laboratory 515-233-1216 (home) Ames, Iowa 50011 tlm@iastate.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc From: jburke@bodacious.csc.wsu.edu (John L. Burke) Subject: SLIP and dialup availability Message-ID: <1993Oct12.231819.9783@serval.net.wsu.edu> Sender: news@serval.net.wsu.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Washington State University Date: Tue, 12 Oct 93 23:18:19 GMT Can anyone tell me if this is possible? I have a NeXTStation with NeXTStep 3.0 (soon to be 3.1) and I have a 9600 baud modem available to it. What I would like to do is attach the modem to the NeXT, then be able to dial up from home and connect into the NeXT and have multiple session and such. Is this possible? Can SLIP do this? ie, could I run a SLIP protocol from home over a dialup line and connect directly to my NeXT? Any and all replies will be most welcomed!!!! Thanks! John -- ********************************************************************* * John Burke * jburke@bodacious.csc.wsu.edu * * Washington State University * NeXTStation Mono * * Systems & Computing * NeXTMail Welcome! * *********************************************************************
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: thompson@netcom.com (Eric Thompson) Subject: Re: TipTop Message-ID: <thompsonCEtGFA.LCH@netcom.com> Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) References: <abellCEqr6p.C6@netcom.com> Distribution: na Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1993 03:30:45 GMT abell@netcom.com (Steven T. Abell) writes: >Has anyone run Pedja Bogdanovich's TipTop program as setuid uucp.daemon? >Any problems? Yes, I've been running it since it came out. Awesome app! No problems at all. Eric thompson@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software From: mike@lorax.com (Mike Ferris) Subject: MOKit Version 0.9 Release 1 now available Message-ID: <CEt3tq.67F@lorax.com> Sender: mike@lorax.com (Mike Ferris) Organization: Stultus Enterprises Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1993 22:58:38 GMT Hi, I have just uploaded the first release of a kit of objects called MOKit (for Mike's Object Kit) to cs.orst.edu and sonata.cc.purdue.edu. It should be in pub/next/submissions at both sites until the moderators migrate them elsewhere. Here is some info from the ReadMe file: ------------Begin README--------------- MOKit Version 0.9, release 1 ---------------------------- Welcome to the first release of MOKit! What is MOKit? -------------- MOKit is a set of objects which I have written. I am making it available for use by whoever wants to use it. Full source is provided for all the classes, palettes, and examples. The following notice appears in each header file in the kit. // ABOUT MOKit // // MOKit is a collection of useful and general objects. Permission is // granted by the author to use MOKit in your own programs in any way // you see fit. All other rights to the kit are reserved by the author // including the right to sell these objects as part of a LIBRARY or as // SOURCE CODE. In plain English, I wish to retain rights to these // objects as objects, but allow the use of the objects as pieces in a // fully functional program. NO WARRANTY is expressed or implied. The author // will under no circumstances be held responsible for ANY consequences to // you from the use of these objects. Since you don't have to pay for // them, and full source is provided, I think this is perfectly fair. As outlined above, anyone is free to use these objects in their own applications. There is NO WARRANTY express or implied. Now on to more interesting details. What classes are in MOKit? -------------------------- MOKit currently contains 7 classes, one palette, and one example app. There is full Next-style class documentation for each class. Here's a brief description of each class included in this release: MOString - yet another string class. This class basically provides a wrapper for a c-style null-terminated string. The class knows about Next-style unique strings as well. Many methods for accessing and modifying the string are provided including a fairly complete set of covers for the regular ANSI string library functions. MOSybaseString - a subclass of MOString which adds a few methods for dealing with string's that will be used to build qualifiers for Sybase. Primarily the class provides a way to make a given string case-insensitive SQL-style (eg. changing "a" to "[aA]"). It also provides a method for converting unix style wildcard characters into their SQL equivalents. MORegexFormCell - a subclass of FormCell which adds input validation via regular expression pattern matching. Each cell can have a list of regular expressions associated with it. When the user tabs out of the field, the entry is checked against the regular expressions. The entry must match at least one of the cell's expressions or it is not accepted and the field does not allow editing to end. It is possible to check a wide variety of input formats via regular expressions. MORegexTextCell - a subclass of TextFieldCell which is to TextFieldCell what MORegexFormCell is to FormCell. MODateFormCell - a subclass of MORegexFormCell specifically set up to check dates. Dates cannot be checked completely by regular expression matching, so this class lets regular expressions do what they can and then finishes validating the date. The class also allows customizable reformatting of entered dates via a printf style format string. MODateTextCell - a subclass of MORegexTextCell similar to MODateFormCell except that it is a TextFieldCell by ancestry. MOMatrix - a subclass of Matrix that allows variably sized rows and columns. What else is in MOKit? ---------------------- As well as the class sources, headers, and documentation, MOKit contains several other peices. There is one palette which has several Forms with preconfigured MORegexFormCells in them, several Matrix's with preconfigured MORegexTextCells in them, one Form with a MODateFormCell in it, and one Matrix with a MORegexDateCell in it. The palette provides attribute inspectors for each of the four cell classes. There is an example program which demonstrates the use of MOMatrix. There are separate bundles for each class in the library. The bundles are not for use in normal apps. They are useful for apps that will do a lot of dynamic loading and for IB palettes. See the REDAME file in the Bundle directory for more info. How do I install it? -------------------- There is a master Makefile in the top-level MOKit directory (the directory where this README file was). The default install location is various directories under /LocalDeveloper. If you want to change this, edit the first few lines of the master Makefile. Once the installation locations are set up like you want, cd into the MOKit directory and type make install. This will build all the necessary binaries and install everything (library, headers, documentation, and palettes). How do I uninstall it? ---------------------- cd into the top-level MOKit directory and do a make uninstall. How do I clean out the object code and binaries and such? --------------------------------------------------------- cd into the top-level MOKit directory and do a make distclean. What else can the top-level Makefile do? ---------------------------------------- These are the supported targets... lib: builds the optimized library bundles: builds the individual class bundles examples: builds the example apps (depends on lib) palettes: builds the IB palettes (depends on bundles) all: build the lib, bundles, examples, and palettes targets install: installs the library, docs, headers, and palettes (depends on lib and palettes) uninstall: removes all traces of MOKit from the installation area distclean: removes all derived and backup files from the MOKit distribution directory More specialized control over building can be accomplished by using the Makefiles in the individual directories. Specifically, debug and profile versions of the library can be made. The top-level install target will install any versions of the library that exist when it is called. It will only create the optimized version, though. So if you want to install all three, first make the debug and profile versions using the Source directory Makefile, then use the install target at the top level. Future Directions ----------------- I plan to keep adding objects to this kit. I have several in the works now that didn't quite make it into this release. This release is number 0.9 because it will be the first release to be used by people besides me. When I have had some comments and bug reports, I will create a 1.0 version. For now, consider this a beta release. I have also considered merging this project with the MiscKit effort currently being organised by Dan Yacktman. I want to wait until their policy and such settles down, though, and I didn't want to delay letting people at these objects, so here they are. Let me know what you think! Well, that's all for now. Please let me know if you use the kit. Bugs, comments, and suggestions can be sent to: Mike Ferris mike@lorax.com Happy hacking -Mike ------------End README---------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software From: Aris Theocharides <aris@maths.mu.OZ.AU> Subject: PS fonts and TeX Message-ID: <9328620.27149@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> Sender: news@cs.mu.OZ.AU Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1993 10:29:06 GMT My problem is sort of simple: I know one can set up NFSS(2) and PSNFSS(2) to work on the NeXT for TeX. And I know how to set up PS fonts for the NeXT. What fonts do I need to put on the NeXT (PostScript) to keep TeX happy? Thanks for any help,... especially if someone (must) has done this before. Aris. -- (OZNeXT Vice President: Australian NeXT User Group) name: aris theocharides. address: room g63, maths dept, melb uni, parkville, vic, australia, 3052. phone [+613] uni: 344.40.21, home: 489.90.14, fax: 344.45.99 e.mail: aris@foucault.maths.mu.OZ.AU (NeXTmail)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: wkwong@bode.eng.ohio-state.edu (Waihon Andrew Kwong) Subject: Re: TipTop Message-ID: <1993Oct13.143916.11268@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu> Sender: news@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu Organization: The Ohio State University Dept of Electrical Engineering References: <abellCEqr6p.C6@netcom.com> <thompsonCEtGFA.LCH@netcom.com> Distribution: na Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1993 14:39:16 GMT In article <thompsonCEtGFA.LCH@netcom.com> thompson@netcom.com (Eric Thompson) writes: >abell@netcom.com (Steven T. Abell) writes: >>Has anyone run Pedja Bogdanovich's TipTop program as setuid uucp.daemon? >>Any problems? > >Yes, I've been running it since it came out. Awesome app! No problems >at all. I'll second it. TipTop is a cool NeXTApp. Andy > >Eric >thompson@netcom.com
From: mcc@ciup1.ncc.up.pt (Manuel Eduardo Correia) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Gopher for NextStep (Where ???)... Date: 13 Oct 93 12:19:21 Organization: Universidade do Porto Message-ID: <MCC.93Oct13121921@ciup1.ncc.up.pt> Hello, I need a gopher client binary that runs under NextStep without any X support... Is there any ??? If yes, Where ??? Cheers.. -- =============================================================================== Manuel Eduardo C. D. Correia (Phd. Student) =============================================================================== Centro de Informatica da Universidade do Porto (CIUP), Rua do Campo Alegre, 823, 4100 Porto, PORTUGAL Tel: (351-02) 600 1672, Ext: 113, Fax: (351-02) 600 3654, Internet: mcc@ciup1.ncc.up.pt ===============================================================================
From: kelly@shogun.nersc.gov Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Developer vs. User Kits Date: 13 Oct 1993 15:25:15 GMT Organization: Energy Sciences Network Distribution: world Message-ID: <29h6kr$91s@osi-east2.nersc.gov> >> I just upgraded to NeXTStep 3.1 on my next. There seems to be a >> problem now - I can't find cc on my disk anywhere so I can't run >> C programs atthe moment. Can someone send me cc via NeXTMail? >> Thanks. > >There are two 3.1 upgrades available from NeXT: User and Developer. > >cc (and all the libraries) are part of the Developer upgrade. cc >alone would not do you much good, so you are essentially asking for >the better contents of a CD-ROM. This is not only impractical, it is >not legal, as NeXTstep is commercial software. This is the first time that NeXT separated the two. Even though I purchased the Developer kit it was a surprise to me to find out the libraries and compiler were not part of the User kit. I do not develop NEXTSTEP applications, but I do develop code, or used to. The Developer disk was bad so I only got part way through the install. So now I can compile, but not load. I think removing the compiler tools from the User kit is a BIG MISTAKE on the part of NeXT. We have to pay more money for a bunch of stuff we do not want, just to get the compiler. -- Bruce Kelly L-561, P O Box 5509, Livermore, CA, 94551 kelly@nersc.gov National Energy Research Supercomputer Center 510-423-0640, fax:510-422-0435 Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: crath@bnr.ca (Christopher Rath) Subject: SOLUTION: CMN (Common Music Notation) binary In-Reply-To: crath@bnr.ca's message of Mon, 11 Oct 1993 19:01:44 GMT Message-ID: <CRATH.93Oct13114023@bcarh20d.bnr.ca> Sender: usenet@bcars6a8.bnr.ca (Use Net) Organization: Bell Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada References: <CRATH.93Oct11140144@bcarh20d.bnr.ca> Distribution: comp Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1993 16:40:23 GMT In article <CRATH.93Oct11140144@bcarh20d.bnr.ca> crath@bnr.ca (Christopher Rath) writes: > Can anyone point me to a binary distribution of CMN? I tried > compiling it using the PCL binary on sonata, but I ran out of disk > space in /tmp. Does someone have an executable version I can ftp? The disk space problem turned out to be the swap file growing to eat up the the free 10 meg I had on the boot disk. In order to overcome the problem I logged into my NeXTstation in console mode. That meant that a minimum number of processes were running, and I was able to get through the compile without running out of swap space. Christopher -- Christopher Rath | crath@bnr.ca BNR Lab 5 | Ottawa, ON, Canada | "Hydrogen is a colourless, odourless gas which, given (613) 765-3141 | enough time, turns into people." -- Henry Hiebert
From: mcc@ciup1.ncc.up.pt (Manuel Eduardo Correia) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NewsReader for NeXTStep (Where ???)... Date: 13 Oct 93 20:19:35 Organization: Universidade do Porto Message-ID: <MCC.93Oct13201935@ciup1.ncc.up.pt> Hello, I need a good NewsReader binary that runs under NextStep without any X support... Do you know where I can find one ??? Cheers... -- =============================================================================== Manuel Eduardo C. D. Correia (Phd. Student) =============================================================================== Centro de Informatica da Universidade do Porto (CIUP), Rua do Campo Alegre, 823, 4100 Porto, PORTUGAL Tel: (351-02) 600 1672, Ext: 113, Fax: (351-02) 600 3654, Internet: mcc@ciup1.ncc.up.pt ===============================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software From: manroe@manki.toppoint.de(Manfred Roehr) Subject: ATARI on the NeXT Message-ID: <CEur15.Ay@manki.toppoint.de> Sender: manroe@manki.toppoint.de (Manfred Roehr) Organization: arts Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1993 20:17:29 GMT Hi, does anybody know, if it could be possible, running ATARI on the NeXT? There is very good german DTP-software running fast on the ATARI. Tja... Manfred
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: SLIP for NS/I Date: 13 Oct 1993 21:18:08 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL USA Message-ID: <29hrag$hlv@news.acns.nwu.edu> Okay the (mostly) fixed serial drivers have been out for a while, anyone have SLIP for NeXTstep Intel ready yet? Kermit is such a drag. -- Jerry S. Weiss j-weiss@nwu.edu Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois %SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc From: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) Subject: Command Line RTF -> Postscript Converter Message-ID: <1993Oct14.042009.4087@weston.com> Sender: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1993 04:20:09 GMT I need a command line RTF to postscript converter. Also, a command line utility to concatenate postscript files would alos be helpful. Thanks -- Wes Spears <-------> jspears@weston.com (NeXTMail Welcome) The Weston Group 8524 Highway 6 North, 162, Houston, TX 77095
From: squish@hitl.washington.edu (Squish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: need a Next WriteNow to ANYTHING converter Date: 14 Oct 1993 10:17:41 GMT Organization: Human Interface Technology Lab, Seattle, WA Message-ID: <29j905$cu8@news.u.washington.edu> Sorry to barge into this newsgroup like a bull in a china shop but I am looking for a WriteNow to ANYTHING converter (perferably MS-Word or ASCII). Does such a beast exist? Please send me email for I don't read this group. Thanks! - mike almquist (squish@hitl.washington.edu) -- The chess board is the world, the pieces are the phenomena of the universe, the rules of the game are what we call the laws of Nature. - Thomas Henry Huxley, "A Liberal Education"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: arrouye@petole.imag.fr (Yves Arrouye) Subject: Re: Multi-disk packages In-Reply-To: kevins@bmd.com's message of Sat, 9 Oct 1993 03:36:14 GMT Message-ID: <ARROUYE.93Oct14101413@petole.imag.fr> Sender: news@imag.fr Organization: Institut Imag, Grenoble, France References: <1993Oct9.033614.19401@bMD.com> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1993 09:14:13 GMT In article <1993Oct9.033614.19401@bMD.com> kevins@bmd.com writes: Anyone know what's up with 3.1 and multi disk packages... I have installed multi disk packages that were made under 3.0 or lower but the ones I create under 3.1 seem to have a problem ejecting the first disk.... Any ideas???? Shell scripts within the 3.1 Installer distribution are reputed to be bugfull. The "solution" is either to make the package with 3.0 (which is not possible for NS/FIP), or to manually install the archive, by concatenating all tar files before extrcating them. Yves -- Elle e'tait comme je vous la raconte sans que vous Yves Arrouye puissiez voir son visage ni entendre ses paroles, Yves.Arrouye@imag.fr pas plus que je ne l'ai vu ni ne les ai entendues, (33) 76 57 48 64 moi qui pourtant les ai si bien connus. NeXT Mail
From: robert@amo.mit.edu(Robert Lutwak) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: ld -FAT? Date: 14 Oct 1993 13:12:03 GMT Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology Message-ID: <29jj73$36v@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Hi. I was just trying to compile /NextDeveloper/Examples/AppKit/BackspaceViews/* for use on multiple architectures. I have no problem producing fat object files (*.o) but after linking them with ld, per the makefiles, the BackO modules are only single architecture. I assume that this is because ld is including standard startup libraries for only one machine by default. Is there a flag to ld to tell it to produce fat output? Thanks, Robert -- Robert Lutwak robert@amo.mit.edu MIT Atomic Resonance and Spectroscopy Laboratory ---- NeXTmail always welcome ----
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: fflak@acad3.alaska.edu (kelly alonzo h) Subject: moving Mathematica to new Next Message-ID: <14OCT199307482014@acad3.alaska.edu> News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41.UAC Keywords: mathematica, licensing, upgrade Sender: news@raven.alaska.edu (USENET News System) Organization: University of Alaska - Fairbanks Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1993 15:48:00 GMT Does anyone have experience with moving the Mathematica that was included in the academic bundle to a different machine? I called the company, and explained that I had upgraded to a new cube, and wanted to move the license to the new machine. This seemed to pose a problem for Wolfram, perhaps because the package is keyed to the machine number. I know this issue must have come up before, and it would help me in my dealings with Wolfram if I knew how they handled it in those cases. Thanks, Lon
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) Subject: Re: moving Mathematica to new Next Message-ID: <1993Oct14.161208.12429@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: Stanford University References: <14OCT199307482014@acad3.alaska.edu> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 93 16:12:08 GMT kelly alonzo h writes > Does anyone have experience with moving the Mathematica > that was included in the academic bundle to a different > machine? I called the company, and explained that I had > upgraded to a new cube, and wanted to move the license > to the new machine. This seemed to pose a problem for > Wolfram, perhaps because the package is keyed to the > machine number. I know this issue must have come up before, > and it would help me in my dealings with Wolfram if I knew > how they handled it in those cases. I had to re-install Mma after getting a motherboard swap. Just called Wolfram and they gave me a new licence number keyed to the new host-id, right over the phone (and later sent me a new licence agreement with the new number on it). This was early this year. -- - Stefano Pagiola Food Research Institute, Stanford University spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged) spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
From: mconners@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael R Conners) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Pascal for NeXT? Date: 14 Oct 1993 16:52:42 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <29k04q$qk9@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> I'm looking for a Pascal compiler for NeXT so that I can do my homework at home instead of the clogged computer labs. Is anything available? -- *** Michael Conners - THE Ohio State University *** ** Compare and Contrast: ** Carter Administration Clinton Administration - Elvis dead - Barbra Streisand all too lively
From: g12770@garnet.berkeley.edu () Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Need Help With Gopher/Wais Clients For Intel Date: 14 Oct 1993 16:59:41 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Distribution: usa Message-ID: <29k0ht$l9p@agate.berkeley.edu> Hi, I'm looking for help with compiling the NeXT clients for archie, gopher, and wais for NeXTstep 3.1 FIP. I grabbed source for gopher 1.12, WAISstation 1.19, and archie 1.3 from cs.osrst.edu. I'm willing to bet someone has tread this path before me. I'm assuming these are the latest versions of the client software? ProjectBuilder compiles gopher, but when I try to run the applicatoin it bombs with the message: objc: NXBrowserCell: does not recognize selector -setRemoteName WAIStation and archie both stop with error messgaes during build. I'm new to NeXTSTEP and would appreciate any advice on how to proceed. Thanks! Carl ========================================================================= Carl Jones Internet: cjones@lucy.wellesley.edu Systems Librarian Voice: (617) 283-2172 Margaret Clapp Library Wellesley College Wellesley, MA 02181 =========================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: tlm@tantalus.scl.ameslab.gov (Tom Marchioro) Subject: Re: moving Mathematica to new Next Message-ID: <CEwCuD.DJF@news.iastate.edu> Sender: news@news.iastate.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA References: <1993Oct14.161208.12429@leland.Stanford.EDU> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1993 17:06:12 GMT Stefano Pagiola writes []kelly alonzo h writes []> Does anyone have experience with moving the Mathematica []> that was included in the academic bundle to a different []> machine? I called the company, and explained that I had []> upgraded to a new cube, and wanted to move the license []> to the new machine. This seemed to pose a problem for []> Wolfram, perhaps because the package is keyed to the []> machine number. I know this issue must have come up before, []> and it would help me in my dealings with Wolfram if I knew []> how they handled it in those cases. [] []I had to re-install Mma after getting a motherboard swap. Just []called Wolfram and they gave me a new licence number keyed to the new []host-id, right over the phone (and later sent me a new licence []agreement with the new number on it). This was early this year. [] I'll second that. Have moved my Mma license once before because of a bad board, and have discussed moving another copy ('cuz it's on an 030 machine and we want to move it to an 040) and in both cases WRI just said "get a new key and uninstall the old version". No problemo. The only caveat I'll offer is that WRI, while basically a fine place, is big and at times confused. If you get someone who thinks there is going to be a problem be firm (but polite) about speaking to someone who knows what is going on. I suggest talking to whomever is the sales rep for your University. Lori Gilmore handles ISU and dealing with her has been extremely pleasant and helpful. Hope this helps --- Tom -- Dr. Thomas L. Marchioro II Two-wheeled theoretical physicist Center for Physical and Computational Mathematics 515-294-5543 Ames Laboratory 515-233-1216 (home) Ames, Iowa 50011 tlm@iastate.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mshaler@tdocad.sps.mot.com (Michael Shaler) Subject: FYI: Canon's word processor, WritingDesk.app Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1993 15:56:27 GMT Organization: Nippon Motorola Ltd., Tokyo, Japan Sender: news@tkymail.sps.mot.com Message-ID: <1993Oct14.155627.1019@tkymail.sps.mot.com> I recently attended Canon's NeXTSTEP Technology Forum here in Tokyo, where Canon announced NSFIP, etc. They will ship 3.1J for beige hardware mid-October and 3.2J for black and beige by year's end. The smoothest semantic finesse (a killer marketing move, you'd have to say) was attaching a Canon logo to the front of an Intel GX box and calling it--you guessed it--a "NeXTstation." One o f the most notable items on the list is Canon's own word processing app, WritingDesk.app, which is really pretty good. (They are bundling a demo with each copy of NeXTSTEP/J). It looks a lot like WriteNow, basically. I don't know what kind of file format they are using, but they support RTF, object links, Japanese text-handling features like boten, mesh, ruby, and tables (!). In fact, the tables module is the best part of the app and deserves a lot of praise for a VERY easy-to-use interface. Unfortuna tely, Canon left out the spell check and mail merge features that some might expect in a full-fledged word processor. All in all, not a bad implementation. FYI. --- Michael Shaler Tokyo Design Center Nippon Motorola Ltd. +813 3280 8245 voice +813 3440 0033 fax mshaler@tdocad.sps.mot.com [NeXTmail]$B8L(J
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software From: jblencoe@blencoe.chem.ornl.gov (James G. Blencoe) Subject: Re: Steve's lunatic pricing scheme Message-ID: <1993Oct14.184729.22874@ornl.gov> Keywords: Virtuoso Sender: usenet@ornl.gov (News poster) Organization: Oak Ridge National Laboratory References: <1993Oct14.144848.1413@altsys.com> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1993 18:47:29 GMT In article <1993Oct14.144848.1413@altsys.com> lorinr@altsys.com (Lorin Rivers III) writes: > In article <CEurAK.ML5@mailer.cc.fsu.edu> dekorte@next1.scri.fsu.edu (Stephen Lee Dekorte) writes: > >(Duane Takamine) writes: > >>(Steve Dekorte) writes: > >> >(Duane Takamine) writes: > >> > (Steve Dekorte) writes: > >> > > >> >>>Q: What developer is going to work on an OS that practically no > >> >>> one is using? > >> >>>A: *Very* few. > >> >>> > >.. That is why *I* do it, anyway. > > > >The point is that the *top* DTP, and business software isn't on NS > >and probably won't be ported to it unless it's clear that NSFIP will > >be alot more popular than NS FBHW. Given NeXT's pricing scheme this > >is not clear. But I'd be glad to be shown wrong - Anyone now when > >QuarkExpress will be on NS??? > > [munch] > > Virtuoso's about to win a major DTP award as the best graphics ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > application on ANY paltform. So there Mr. SmartyPants. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > -- > Lorin Rivers Lorin_Rivers@altsys.com > NEXTSTEP Sales Manager 214.680.2060 > 269 W. Renner Parkway NeXT Mail Expected > Richardson, Texas 75080 I said it, not my boss Touche! I love it! Thanks, Lorin, you just made my day. BTW, when can you be more specific about the award? Inquiring minds want to know. Jim
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next From: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) Subject: Mail Software that will take a file and UUENCODE it Message-ID: <1993Oct14.180247.419@weston.com> Sender: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1993 18:02:47 GMT I would like to be able to drag and drop one file to a amil message and have the mail app just uuencode it. This is so that on the other end, the adressee can get the message and deal with it, regardless of OS. Any suggestions? Thanks Wes Spears -- Wes Spears <-------> jspears@weston.com (NeXTMail Welcome) The Weston Group 8524 Highway 6 North, 162, Houston, TX 77095
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: atownley@cs.umr.edu (Andrew S. Townley) Subject: Re: mail with slip References: <seungwoo.750111536@myria> Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1993 23:26:40 GMT Distribution: umn.edu Organization: University of Missouri-Rolla, Missouri's Technological University Sender: cnews@umr.edu (UMR Usenet News Administration) Message-ID: <1993Oct12.232640.21116@umr.edu> In article <seungwoo.750111536@myria> seungwoo@myria.cs.umn.edu (Seung-Woo Kim) writes: > > I've been using SLIP for a while - everything works - rlogin, telnet, > ftp, even X-window. But I can't get my mail sent over the slip line(626-1920). > Normally, it doesn't pose any problem as long as it's just ASCII files > since I can rlogin to the university and use elm. But when I want to > send NeXTmail, it's quite bothersome. Can someone help me have this > configured? When I tried to send mail from my localhost, it always > bounce with the following message: [munch] Ok, having just done this for myself, I'll try and help you. First of all, I need to know exactly how your system is set up. Can you type telnet name.dom.ain and get it to understand this from your machine? If you can't, you need to set up a nameserver. To do this, edit your resolv.conf file to point to a machine that is the nameserver for your network locally (for the SLIP end). Then what you need to do is use the sendmail.subsidiary.cf file located in /etc/sendmail to have your machine forward all m ail to another machine that can communicate with the outside world. You could also set it up so your machine talks to the outside world, but the way our network is set up, that's impossible. Anyway, here's a diff of the file I have that works for my installation and what the original NeXTSTEP 3.1 file is: *** sendmail.subsidiary.cf Thu Sep 30 05:19:34 1993 --- sendmail.subsidiary.cf.ns3.1 Tue Mar 30 19:19:20 1993 *************** *** 20,38 **** FV|/usr/bin/uuname # my fully qualified hostname, $j, is now set by sendmail internally ! #Dj$?m$w.$m$|$w$. # taken out 9/30/93 by atownley ! Dj$w # major relay mailer DMether # major relay host ! DRyour.mail.host.dom.ain.goes.here ! CRyour.mail.host.dom.ain.goes.here - # our internet aliases - Cw lowercase_alias UPPERCASE_ALIAS - ############################################################ ##### ##### General configuration information --- 20,34 ---- FV|/usr/bin/uuname # my fully qualified hostname, $j, is now set by sendmail internally ! #Dj$?m$w.$m$|$w$. # major relay mailer DMether # major relay host ! DRmailhost ! CRmailhost ############################################################ ##### ##### General configuration information *************** *** 44,51 **** # name you would like to have appear in your mail headers is different # from your Internet domain name, edit and uncomment the following to # be your mail domain name. ! Dmdomain.name.here ! DDdomain.name.here # Version number of configuration file DVNX3.0S --- 40,46 ---- # name you would like to have appear in your mail headers is different # from your Internet domain name, edit and uncomment the following to # be your mail domain name. ! # DmPodunk.EDU # Version number of configuration file DVNX3.0S *************** *** 56,62 **** # name used for error messages DnMailer-Agent # UNIX header format ! DlFrom $g@$D $d # delimiter (operator) characters Do.:%@!^=/[] # format of a total name --- 51,57 ---- # name used for error messages DnMailer-Agent # UNIX header format ! DlFrom $g $d # delimiter (operator) characters Do.:%@!^=/[] # format of a total name *************** *** 195,201 **** R$*<@$+>$* $:$1<@$[$2$]>$3 find canonical hostname R$*<@$*$=m>$* $1<@$2LOCAL>$4 convert local domain - ############################################################ ##### ##### Local and Program Mailer specification --- 190,195 ---- *************** *** 220,226 **** Mether, P=[TCP], F=msDFMuX, S=11, R=21, A=TCP $h S11 R$*<@$+>$* $@$1<@$2>$3 already ok ! R$+ $@$1<@dom.ain> tack on our hostname S21 # None needed. --- 214,220 ---- Mether, P=[TCP], F=msDFMuX, S=11, R=21, A=TCP $h S11 R$*<@$+>$* $@$1<@$2>$3 already ok ! R$+ $@$1<@$w> tack on our hostname S21 # None needed. If this doesn't make any sense to you, I'll try to be more specific, but you can try this first. This fixed my problem for me and I hope it helps you. > I'd appreciate it very much if anybody help me out. Thank you many times. you're welcome. :) > > Seung-Woo Andrew
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) Subject: Mail Preprocessor that will correct UUNECODED files to NeXTMail Message-ID: <1993Oct14.182027.553@weston.com> Sender: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1993 18:20:27 GMT I am curious to know if it has been done, or if anyone has any suggestions. I will be receiving a great deal of mail in the future from sites and the mail will contain uuencoded files. I would love for that file to come into Mail.app as NeXTMail, so this would be a pain, but the mail should be uudecoded to the file, then, I think, tarred, compressed, then uuencoded and placed back with the original headers. Then passed to NeXT mail which would undo all that. Or I guess the preprocessor could simply create the correct format and append the message directly to the NeXTMailbox. Any suggestions? Thanks Wes Spears -- Wes Spears <-------> jspears@weston.com (NeXTMail Welcome) The Weston Group 8524 Highway 6 North, 162, Houston, TX 77095
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) Subject: Re: Mail Software that will take a file and UUENCODE it Message-ID: <1993Oct14.203859.22734@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: Stanford University References: <1993Oct14.180247.419@weston.com> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 93 20:38:59 GMT Wes Spears writes > I would like to be able to drag and drop one file to a amil > message and have the mail app just uuencode it. This is so that > on the other end, the adressee can get the message and deal with > it, regardless of OS. Isn't this the way it works already? I know I've sent NeXTMail to people on non-NeXTSTEP systems and they've all been able to deal with it, once I told them all they had to do was uudecode it. I guess there is an extra step in that some of the stuff is probably tar.Z'd as well. But nothing very difficult. -- - Stefano Pagiola Food Research Institute, Stanford University spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged) spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller) Subject: Re: edit: SIMPLE question References: <28im86$1hj@galaxy.ucr.edu> Sender: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller) Organization: Gerhard Moeller, German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg. Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1993 09:50:23 GMT Message-ID: <1993Oct14.095023.6062@proximus.north.de> In article <28im86$1hj@galaxy.ucr.edu> nagler@wat2213.ucr.edu (jonathan nagler) writes: > Is there some way to put edit into a 'typeover' or > 'replace' mode as opposed to the usual 'insertion' > mode for typing?? No. -- +---------------------------< principiis obsta! >---------------------------+ N Gerhard Moeller, Hetzg. 31/11, A-1030 Wien (Austria) [*: 02/21/1968] N e Private: gemoe@proximus.north.de Phone (voice): +43-1-7151531 e X Uni: Gerhard.Moeller@arbi.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE NeXTmail X T Z-Net: Gerhard.Moeller@uniol.zer encouraged! T +-> NoGeNUG - Northern German NeXT User Group: NoGeNUG@proximus.north.DE <-+
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller) Subject: Re: Multi-disk packages References: <1993Oct9.033614.19401@bMD.com> Sender: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller) Organization: Gerhard Moeller, German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg. Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1993 10:06:01 GMT Message-ID: <1993Oct14.100601.6186@proximus.north.de> In article <1993Oct9.033614.19401@bMD.com> kevins@bmd.com writes: > Anyone know what's up with 3.1 and multi disk packages... I have installed > multi disk packages that were made under 3.0 or lower but the ones I create > under 3.1 seem to have a problem ejecting the first disk.... > > Any ideas???? This is an known bug in release 3.1. You have to use the 3.0 tools to build a multi volume package. It's documented... Gerhard. PS: Try to fix your inews. You got the signature twice. (locate the "sed 4q" in the inews script) Or fix the problem inside your NUA (news user agent = newsreader) -- +---------------------------< principiis obsta! >---------------------------+ N Gerhard Moeller, Hetzg. 31/11, A-1030 Wien (Austria) [*: 02/21/1968] N e Private: gemoe@proximus.north.de Phone (voice): +43-1-7151531 e X Uni: Gerhard.Moeller@arbi.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE NeXTmail X T Z-Net: Gerhard.Moeller@uniol.zer encouraged! T +-> NoGeNUG - Northern German NeXT User Group: NoGeNUG@proximus.north.DE <-+
From: rruth@studio.disney.com (Richard Ruth) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: C-News or INN? Date: 14 Oct 1993 21:19:26 GMT Organization: The Walt Disney Company Message-ID: <29kfou$qbs@angmar.sat.disney.com> I have a remote NeXT Station that receives a partial news feed (2 meg/day) via uucp (Taylor uucp). I was about to rebuild the c-news system and was wondering if I should use INN instead. Any comments or suggestions on c-news vs. INN? What are the latest versions? Thanks rruth@studio.disney.com
From: brunkhorst@mayo.edu (Geoff Brunkhorst) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mail Software that will take a file and UUENCODE it Date: 14 Oct 1993 22:41:23 GMT Organization: Mayo Foundation Distribution: world Message-ID: <29kkij$j16@fermat.mayo.edu> References: <1993Oct14.203859.22734@leland.Stanford.EDU> In article <1993Oct14.203859.22734@leland.Stanford.EDU> spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) writes: > Wes Spears writes > > I would like to be able to drag and drop one file to a amil > > message and have the mail app just uuencode it. This is so that > > on the other end, the adressee can get the message and deal with > > it, regardless of OS. > > Isn't this the way it works already? I know I've sent NeXTMail to > people on non-NeXTSTEP systems and they've all been able to deal with > it, once I told them all they had to do was uudecode it. I guess > there is an extra step in that some of the stuff is probably tar.Z'd > as well. But nothing very difficult. How about Tickle Services service that takes the file name, uuencodes its contents into the pasteboard and then mails the selection into a Mail.app compose screen? You could even set the service with a keyaccelerator... Instead of drag and drop it could be as easy as click-click. No. I haven't done it. And it's likely you would need one of the mailtools to properly message Mail.app to open a new compose window... but whatever... I'm an ideas guy... I don't want to get lost in coding details;-) - Geoff ----------------------------------------------------------------- Geoffrey Brunkhorst brunkhorst@Mayo.edu Research Computing Facility, Guggenheim 10 (507) 284-1805 Mayo Foundation, Rochester MN, 55905, USA fax (507) 284-5231
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jeffblum@ernie.Princeton.EDU (Jeffrey Robert Blum) Subject: Re: need a Next WriteNow to ANYTHING converter Message-ID: <1993Oct14.191108.28475@Princeton.EDU> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University References: <29j905$cu8@news.u.washington.edu> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1993 19:11:08 GMT In article <29j905$cu8@news.u.washington.edu>, Squish <squish@hitl.washington.edu> wrote: >Sorry to barge into this newsgroup like a bull in a china shop but I am >looking for a WriteNow to ANYTHING converter (perferably MS-Word or ASCII). >Does such a beast exist? Please send me email for I don't read this group. >Thanks! > >- mike almquist (squish@hitl.washington.edu) >-- >The chess board is the world, the pieces are the phenomena of the universe, the >rules of the game are what we call the laws of Nature. > - Thomas Henry Huxley, "A Liberal Education" I believe that you can just go to "Save As..." in the File menu and select RTF or ASCII to save in... -jeff -- "His eyes were eggs of unstable crystal, vibrating with a frequency whose name was rain and the sound of trains, suddenly sprouting a humming forest of hair-fine glass spines." --Neuromancer
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: kevins@bmd.com Subject: Re: Appsoft Draw Message-ID: <1993Oct14.042723.675@bMD.com> Sender: kevins@bMD.com (Kevin Solie) Organization: benchMark Developments, Inc. (Lex, KY) References: <1993Oct6.150208.20336@investor.pgh.pa.us> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1993 04:27:23 GMT In article <1993Oct6.150208.20336@investor.pgh.pa.us> rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us (Bob Peirce #305) writes: > In article <27sbke$m38@TAMUTS.TAMU.EDU> lje0106@sigma.tamu.edu writes: > >In article <27s0r5$9dt@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea > >Brooks) writes: > >| The "latest version" of Draw (1.02) is quite old, > >| flawed, and seems to be going the way of WriteNow, > >| i.e. dying if not dead. > >| > >I tend to agree with the flawed comment. If it is dying, what do you > >suggest as a replacement? > > Create.app. > -- > Bob Peirce, Pittsburgh, PA rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us 412-471-5320 > venetia@investor.pgh.pa.us [NeXT Mail] !uunet.uu.net!pitt!investor!rbp [UUCP] Virtuoso is cool too. -- I'll cross my heart and hope to die but the needle's already in my eye. Kevin Solie -- I'll cross my heart and hope to die but the needle's already in my eye.
From: tg@chmsr.gatech.edu (T. Govindaraj) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: DFax alive? Date: 15 Oct 1993 13:27:13 GMT Organization: Center for Human-Machine Systems Research - Georgia Tech Distribution: world Message-ID: <29m8fh$kk8@news.gatech.edu> Keywords: fax, DFax, SupraFax I bought DFax from Total Systems Software sometime ago. I was one of their 'pre-release' customers. I use DFax with a SupraFax modem. Even though the original release was delayed several times, I was reasonably happy once I received and installed my copy. Now I am not happy with DFax, and am very reluctant to recommend it to anyone. I have had several problems that I will list here. The first problem is that it is often unreliable. I am never sure if a fax I sent out was delivered. If it has graphics (done in Virtuoso, which I really like, or other software) it sometimes sends it but not always. (I don't even try it now.) Support used to be prompt and good, but I guess they have other problems to worry about. The second problem concerns upgrades. A few months ago there was an article here announcing version 1.4 and how one might be able to download it. Since I use SLIP, I have not need for kermit or other such protocols. However, since kermit was the easiest option that I could use to dial up their number, after I received a special account for downloads, I installed kermit and tried to move the files. After a couple of failed attempts, I connected but the line dropped before the transfer was complete. Having already wasted time and money, with no guarantee that the telephone connection will stay intact, I gave up. I sent mail to Total Systems Software immediately, explaining the problem and asking for other options (such as paying for the upgrade disk and reasonable charges for shipping and handling). This was few months ago, and I am yet to hear anything. While they may have their reasons for using this method of downloading, which seems rather antiquated, especially when ARDI does such a nice job with ftp accessible upgrades for their nice product, Executor, I cannot see why DFax cannot be similarly upgraded. Perhaps the time has come for me to give up on DFax and get a copy of NXFax from Black and White Software, about which I have only heard good things. (When I paid for (not received) DFax, NXFax was not available for SupraFax, and I already had the modem.) govind I hesitated to post this, since I have been very reluctant to say anything bad about *any* NeXT developer/ISV. I even bought a copy of PasteUp several months ago, even though I didn't have an immediate need since I felt I had to support it. (I like PasteUp, and while I too am sorry to see RightBrain go, I wish Glenn Reid and his tribe well; I plan to upgrade from AFS.) T. Govindaraj +1 404 894 3873, 894 2301 (fax) NeXTmail welcome. - - (accent on o, a; da pronounced dha) TG, Govind OK (NOT Govin) Member, League for Programming Freedom (Info from: lpf@uunet.uu.net) ISyE-0205, Georgia Tech, 765 Ferst Drive, Atlanta, GA 30332-0205, USA.
From: reuven@athena.mit.edu (Reuven M. Lerner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: DFax alive? Date: 15 Oct 1993 13:43:03 GMT Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology Distribution: world Message-ID: <REUVEN.93Oct15094303@vongole.mit.edu> References: <29m8fh$kk8@news.gatech.edu> In-reply-to: tg@chmsr.gatech.edu's message of 15 Oct 1993 13:27:13 GMT I want to echo Govind's comments. DFax worked fairly well for me under NS 3.0, although it would have been nice if the program were able to notify me when faxes weren't sent. I have tried to download the upgraded software many (about 10) times, and haven't yet been successful. I've tried kermit, ASCII, and Zmodem, and not once has the transfer completed successfully. My e-mail to Total System Software asking about these problems has gone unanswered. I don't have a pressing need to send faxes from my computer at home. But it's nice to know that I can, especially when I paid about $100 to people who were working on such a program. It's not yet clear what I'm going to do about this, since it's clear that the TSS folks don't answer their e-mail. I guess I'll just have to fax things the old-fashioned way for now (printing and faxing from a "standard" machine). Which is really too bad. Reuven
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: herbst@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (robert.s.herbst) Subject: ksh for NS/Intel Organization: AT&T Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1993 15:37:31 GMT Message-ID: <CEy3Er.LoM@cbnewsj.cb.att.com> Keywords: ksh NS3.1/I Does anyone out there have a copy of ksh for NS 3.1/Intel that they could send me, or is it available from orst or purdue?? Any help would be appreciated. Almost forgot: also, does anyone know if 3.2/I will support internal fax modems?? Thanks, Bob Herbst AT&T Bell Labs Middletown, NJ bobh@mtketc1.att.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: gjudd@hackatg.demon.co.uk (Graham Judd) Subject: Spreadsheet alternatives Message-ID: <1993Oct15.155838.4883@hackatg.demon.co.uk> Sender: gjudd@hackatg.demon.co.uk Organization: Hackwood Service Company Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1993 15:58:38 GMT Are there any other spreadsheet apps for White other than Mesa and Questar? Thanks Graham Judd gjudd@hackatg.demon.co.uk [NeXTMail OK] gjudd@cix.compulink.co.uk [No NeXTMail]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: eboltz@acoustica.mrd.bldrdoc.gov (Eric S. Boltz) Subject: Re: need a Next WriteNow to ANYTHING converter Message-ID: <CEyKDE.1Kv@dove.nist.gov> Sender: news@dove.nist.gov Organization: NIST References: <1993Oct14.191108.28475@Princeton.EDU> Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1993 21:44:01 GMT In article <1993Oct14.191108.28475@Princeton.EDU> jeffblum@ernie.Princeton.EDU (Jeffrey Robert Blum) writes: > In article <29j905$cu8@news.u.washington.edu>, > Squish <squish@hitl.washington.edu> wrote: > >Sorry to barge into this newsgroup like a bull in a china shop but I am > >looking for a WriteNow to ANYTHING converter (perferably MS-Word or ASCII). > >Does such a beast exist? > I believe that you can just go to "Save As..." in the File menu and > select RTF or ASCII to save in... > Unless you don't have a copy of WriteNow! -- Eric S. Boltz My views, opinions and statements in no way reflect those of the U.S. Gov't, the U.S. Department of Commerce or NIST.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: eboltz@acoustica.mrd.bldrdoc.gov (Eric S. Boltz) Subject: Re: moving Mathematica to new Next Message-ID: <CEyKIE.1or@dove.nist.gov> Sender: news@dove.nist.gov Organization: NIST References: <14OCT199307482014@acad3.alaska.edu> Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1993 21:47:01 GMT In article <14OCT199307482014@acad3.alaska.edu> fflak@acad3.alaska.edu (kelly alonzo h) writes: > Does anyone have experience with moving the Mathematica > that was included in the academic bundle to a different > machine? I called the company, and explained that I had > upgraded to a new cube, and wanted to move the license > to the new machine. This seemed to pose a problem for > Wolfram, perhaps because the package is keyed to the > machine number. I know this issue must have come up before, > and it would help me in my dealings with Wolfram if I knew > how they handled it in those cases. > > Thanks, > Lon You have them send or fax you a license transfer form, fill it out, sign it, mail it back, and get a new password. Hasn't been a problem for me when I switched motherboards, but it would've been nice if NeXT had a hostid chip that you could just swap. (ala Sun) -- Eric S. Boltz My views, opinions and statements in no way reflect those of the U.S. Gov't, the U.S. Department of Commerce or NIST.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: todd@atlas.cb.att.com Subject: Re: DFax alive? Organization: AT&T Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1993 21:38:56 GMT Message-ID: <CEyK52.Iuo@cbnewsm.cb.att.com> References: <29m8fh$kk8@news.gatech.edu> <REUVEN.93Oct15094303@vongole.mit.edu> Sender: news@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (NetNews Administrator) Reuven M. Lerner wrote in article <REUVEN.93Oct15094303@vongole.mit.edu> : >I have tried to download the upgraded software many (about 10) times, >and haven't yet been successful. I've tried kermit, ASCII, and >Zmodem, and not once has the transfer completed successfully. My >e-mail to Total System Software asking about these problems has gone >unanswered. I think I also had difficulty with zmodem. My memory of how I obtained the upgrade is vague, but I think that I eventually got either zmodem or xmodem to work properly. I dialed into their system using pcomm (pro-comm like package available from various ftp sites). Faxxing seemed to work pretty well again after I got the update. >I don't have a pressing need to send faxes from my computer at home. >But it's nice to know that I can, especially when I paid about $100 to >people who were working on such a program. I agree completely. >It's not yet clear what I'm going to do about this, since it's clear >that the TSS folks don't answer their e-mail. I guess I'll just have >to fax things the old-fashioned way for now (printing and faxing from >a "standard" machine). Which is really too bad. I too have had difficulty getting a response to e-mail. I have sent a couple of queries to them requesting information on their future plans and how their current software reacts with the various ROM upgrades for the SupraFaxModem. Unfortunately, I received no response to either e-mail. Does anyone else out there know if they still exist? Thanks, Todd
From: ctm@ardi.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: DFax alive? Keywords: fax, DFax, SupraFax Message-ID: <CEyp2K.4r8@cobra.cs.unm.edu> Date: 15 Oct 93 23:25:34 GMT Article-I.D.: cobra.CEyp2K.4r8 References: <29m8fh$kk8@news.gatech.edu> Sender: news@cobra.cs.unm.edu Organization: ARDI In article <29m8fh$kk8@news.gatech.edu> tg@chmsr.gatech.edu (T. Govindaraj) writes: ... >While they may have their reasons for using this method of downloading, >which seems rather antiquated, especially when ARDI does such a nice job >with ftp accessible upgrades for their nice product, Executor, I cannot >see why DFax cannot be similarly upgraded. ... We didn't make upgrades available via FTP until we canned our separate demo copy and merged the ability to run in demo mode (for 10 minutes at a crack) into Executor proper. It may be that DFax can't do that. We still send upgrades out by floppy, although a few percent of our customers will be getting them via FTP instead. NOTE: 1.3 is *not* ready yet. Some bugs showed up in our testing of Executor/DOS that are present in Executor/NEXTSTEP. They've since been fixed, and I'm hoping for code freeze on both products this weekend. --Cliff ctm@ardi.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: alberto@smartsoft.com (Manuel Alberto Ricart) Subject: Re: InTouch vs. SBook Message-ID: <1993Oct15.225632.1556@parsec.mixcom.com> Sender: alberto@parsec.mixcom.com Organization: SmartSoft, Inc. References: <HERRING.93Oct11205928@brutus.dannug.dk> Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1993 22:56:32 GMT [Good demonstration on how the NEXTSTEP community is really world wide and products for NS should be available for all markets] We are currently working to localize InTouch to other languages/countries. An international version of InTouch will be available in French, German, Sweedish, Danish and Spanish by the end of the month. That release also makes InTouch smart about addresses and phone numbers in those countries. As well as add several new features to the program. Keep tuned. -- Alberto Ricart SmartSoft, Inc. 2220 E. Linnwood Avenue, Milwaukee, WI 53211-3321
From: ccas57@ccsun.strath.ac.uk ( "Gabor.Freivogel") Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Info abut ZZVolume needed. Date: 16 Oct 1993 12:51:07 GMT Organization: University of Strathclyde Sender: ccas57@ccsun.strath.ac.uk ( "A.Freivokel") Distribution: world Message-ID: <29oqnr$k8n@loch2.cc.strath.ac.uk> Hallo I am trying to get some info about ZZVolume, but I dont know how to get hold of any information. I have sent several e-mails in the last month to Alembic, but I have never received any answer. Can somebody tell me please, how and where can I get details about this product? Is a Demo available on some FTP sites? I was told that ZZVolume is a french product. Is there a way to cantact the this company directly? Thanks for any information. Gabor E mail (NeXT-mail) : ccas57@strath.ac.uk or gabor@architektur.uni-kassel.de
From: lones@lones.mit.edu (Lones A. Smith) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: CHINESE WATER TORTURE = File transfer to DOS diskettes ("File name too long!") Date: 16 Oct 1993 17:49:41 GMT Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology Message-ID: <29pc7l$puc@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Hi, I am trying to download a zillion pk files to my laptop, which unfortunately is DOS based. I just can't do it. I have tried unix commands (cp file disk) and simply dragging them. Always I get "file name too long", and it gives the whole unix-style path name as the name. Of course this is more than the idiotic 8.3 character limit. (Whoever thought of that limit for DOS should have been the first one fired by Big Blue, but I digress...) I even moved all my pk files to / level hoping to shorten the path name. Still no luck. How can I possibly achieve this clearly usually mindless task? Sincerely, Lones A. Smith Department of Economics, MIT E52-252C, Cambridge MA 02139 voice: (617) 253-0914 [fax: (617) 258-6915]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bksmith@onyx (Brian Smith) Subject: FTP interface for the NS/FIP Sender: news@slate.mines.colorado.edu Message-ID: <1993Oct15.213658.41312@slate.mines.colorado.edu> Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1993 21:36:58 GMT Organization: Colorado School of Mines Is there a new version of GatorFTP for intel hardware or will there be one soon. Also, if GatorFTP is not available is there something else like it. - Brian
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jeffblum@ernie.Princeton.EDU (Jeffrey Robert Blum) Subject: Re: need a Next WriteNow to ANYTHING converter Message-ID: <1993Oct16.173814.12262@Princeton.EDU> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University References: <1993Oct14.191108.28475@Princeton.EDU> <CEyKDE.1Kv@dove.nist.gov> Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1993 17:38:14 GMT In article <CEyKDE.1Kv@dove.nist.gov>, Eric S. Boltz <eboltz@nist.gov> wrote: >In article <1993Oct14.191108.28475@Princeton.EDU> jeffblum@ernie.Princeton.EDU >(Jeffrey Robert Blum) writes: >> In article <29j905$cu8@news.u.washington.edu>, >> Squish <squish@hitl.washington.edu> wrote: >> >Sorry to barge into this newsgroup like a bull in a china shop but I am >> >looking for a WriteNow to ANYTHING converter (perferably MS-Word or ASCII). >> >Does such a beast exist? > >> I believe that you can just go to "Save As..." in the File menu and >> select RTF or ASCII to save in... >> > >Unless you don't have a copy of WriteNow! > Good point. The executable command-line program that does this is inside the WriteNow.app folder as a separate filter. Perhaps Appsoft would be willing to license just this filter? Then again, if it is just a few files, perhaps someone would be willing to convert them for you... (Drop me a line...) -jeff -- "His eyes were eggs of unstable crystal, vibrating with a frequency whose name was rain and the sound of trains, suddenly sprouting a humming forest of hair-fine glass spines." --Neuromancer
From: statman@stat.ufl.edu (Charles D. Kincaid) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: need a Next WriteNow to ANYTHING converter Date: 16 Oct 1993 20:01:01 GMT Organization: University of Florida Distribution: world Message-ID: <29pjttINNcrh@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu> References: <1993Oct16.173814.12262@Princeton.EDU> In article <1993Oct16.173814.12262@Princeton.EDU> jeffblum@ernie.Princeton.EDU (Jeffrey Robert Blum) writes: > > Good point. The executable command-line program that does this is inside > the WriteNow.app folder as a separate filter. Perhaps Appsoft would be > willing to license just this filter? Then again, if it is just a few > files, perhaps someone would be willing to convert them for you... (Drop > me a line...) > I thought that it was intended to include a "ReadNow", i.e. a read only version of WriteNow, kind of like "UnSquashOnly". I also have a few wn files that I might want some day. I could illegally get my old copy of WriteNow (if it will run on NS3.1) and use that, but I'd much rather use a filter as mentioned above. On the other hand, they (who owns WriteNow, right now? :-) wouldn't necessarily want to release a free filter if it encourages everyone to switch from .wn to .rtf, for example. -- Sincerely (or not), charles d. kincaid -------------------------------------------------------------------- Dept. of Statistics 'Damn fine coffee...and hot, too!' Univ. of Florida Pres: G-ville NeXT Users Group
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software From: boyan@tmnxt1.iit.edu (Boyan I. Boyanov) Subject: HELP!!! f2c hates me :-) Message-ID: <1993Oct16.222804.30591@iitmax.iit.edu> Sender: news@iitmax.iit.edu (News) Organization: Illinois Institute of Technology / Academic Computing Center Distribution: usa Date: Sat, 16 Oct 93 22:28:04 GMT Today (10/16/93) I got the f2c source code form research.att.com and attempted to compile it on a NeXTStation running NeXTStep 2.1 and GNU C compiler as distributed by NeXT. Everything went fine, and the f2c convertor itself seems to work OK, but I can't compile the C code it produces. Here are some specifics: 1) f2c ft.f -> this produces ft.c with no complaints 2) cc -I/usr/local/include -L/usr/local/lib -lF77 -lI77 -lm -o deriv deriv.c libF77.a and libI77.a are in /usr/local/lib f2c.h is in /usr/local/include This produces the error message /bin/ld: Undefined symbols: _s_stop _s_wsfe _do_fio _e_wsfe _s_rsle _do_lio _e_rsle _s_rsfe _e_rsfe _f_back _pow_ri Neither of the files libF77.a and libI77.a are present on the system hard drive prior to installation of f2c. Both s_stop.o and pow_ri.o are present in libF77.a. The content of libI77.a is as follows: __.SYMDEF SORTED Version.o backspace.o close.o dfe.o dolio.o due.o endfile.o err.o fmt.o fmtlib.o iio.o ilnw.o inquire.o lread.o lwrite.o open.o rdfmt.o rewind.o rsfe.o rsli.o rsne.o sfe.o sue.o typesize.o uio.o util.o wref.o wrtfmt.o wsfe.o wsle.o wsne.o xwsne.o If, however, I link directly with the .o files, e.g. cc -lm -o ft ft.c ~/misc/f2c/libs/libI77/*.o ~/misc/f2c/libs/libF77/*.o everything goes OK, and the executable runs beautifully. It appears than for one reason or another the loader cannot read the libraries properly. I tried to recompile with the libraries and f2c.h in "standard" localtions, i.e. /usr/lib and /usr/include, with no success. Any suggestions regarding this proglem will be very welcome. Thank you in advance for you time! Regards, Boyan Boyanov boyan@tmnxt1.iit.edu
From: lrogers@mahler (Layla M. Rogers) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Postscript error! (black hardware) Date: 16 Oct 1993 23:41:39 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Distribution: world Message-ID: <29q0rj$5f5@agate.berkeley.edu> Hi--I'm fairly new to NeXT and just made a document in Create that will not print due to a Postscript error. I previewed the document in Preview and it looks okay. Also, I couldn't save the the document as a Create document after I had made some changes. I was able to save it as a Postscript doc in Preview. Messages I get on the console are: Oct 16 16:12:13 Workspace: Cannot open /Net/coltrane/dizzy/Helpasst/sched.template93.create Oct 16 16:12:13 mahler Create[2341]: DPS client library error: PostScript program error, DPSContext 10e230 Oct 16 16:12:13 mahler Create[2341]: %%[ Error: undefinedresult; OffendingCommand: show ]%% Oct 16 16:12:13 mahler Create[2341]: DPS client library error: PostScript program error, DPSContext 10e230 Oct 16 16:12:13 mahler Create[2341]: %%[ Error: undefinedresult; OffendingCommand: show ]%% Oct 16 16:12:14 mahler Create[2341]: DPS client library error: Invalid tag in returned object, DPSContext 10e230, data 1061756 Oct 16 16:12:14 mahler Create[2341]: DPS client library error: Invalid tag in returned object, DPSContext 10e230, data 1061772 Oct 16 16:28:34 mahler Preview[2361]: DPS client library error: PostScript program error, DPSContext 1f0dc Oct 16 16:28:34 mahler Preview[2361]: %%[ Error: undefinedresult; OffendingCommand: show ]%% I'm on an older cube with a NeXTdimension board installed running NeXTstep 3.0. This is a rather important document that took some time to make and any suggestions on how I could force a print would be greatly appreciated. Please email at: lrogers@ella.mills.edu (regular mail) lrogers@mingus.mills.edu (NeXTmail) THANKS!!!!!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: robert@ictv.com (Robert Patrick Thille) Subject: Re: need a Next WriteNow to ANYTHING converter Message-ID: <1993Oct17.014235.1641@ictv.com> Sender: usenet@ictv.com Organization: ICTV, Santa Clara, CA (408) 562-9200 References: <CEyKDE.1Kv@dove.nist.gov> Distribution: usa Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1993 01:42:35 GMT Eric S. Boltz writes > In article <1993Oct14.191108.28475@Princeton.EDU> jeffblum@ernie.Princeton.EDU > (Jeffrey Robert Blum) writes: > > In article <29j905$cu8 @news.u.washington.edu>, > > Squish <squish@hitl.washington.edu> wrote: > > >Sorry to barge into this newsgroup like a bull in a china shop but I am > > >looking for a WriteNow to ANYTHING converter (perferably MS-Word or ASCII). > > >Does such a beast exist? > > > I believe that you can just go to "Save As..." in the File menu and > > select RTF or ASCII to save in... > > > > Unless you don't have a copy of WriteNow! But if you have access to a Mac with ClarisWorks, it will read WriteNow NeXT format files. > > -- > Eric S. Boltz -- Robert Thille NeXTMail robert@ictv.com OK At All 1548 Maple Ave. RWC CA 94063 Addresses
Organization: Queen's University at Kingston Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1993 22:03:34 EDT From: <HARRAPR@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> Message-ID: <93289.220334HARRAPR@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Archive FTP Problems... I've been having a problem with the CS.ORST.EDU archive for some time, and thought that maybe someone out there knows what I'm doing wrong... When I download from Purdue, everything is fine. When I download from Oregon, almost always I get a console message saying that the file isn't a tar or is corrupt. What gives? I'm downloading to a Sparc10, I always set to BIN before I begin to download, and as I mentioned Purdue donwloads are fine.... Any help would be appreciated... Rob Harrap Geological Sciences Queen's University Kingston, Ontario Canada Harrapr@qucdn.queensu.ca
From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: ksh for NS/Intel Date: 17 Oct 1993 03:10:37 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <29qd3d$m1i@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <CEy3Er.LoM@cbnewsj.cb.att.com> Keywords: ksh NS3.1/I herbst@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (robert.s.herbst) writes: >Does anyone out there have a copy of ksh for NS 3.1/Intel that they could >send me, or is it available from orst or purdue?? I never had any trouble compiling ksh on NS on Motorola hardware, so I would imagine that ksh sources would compile cleanly on Intel hardware, as well. You will have to get those source from somewhere else, though, because they are licensed from AT&T. Given your employer, however, you might be able to find them around. :-) You won't find ksh on archive sites, though. (some will say that zsh or bash have similar features, it goes without saying) -- David Lemson (217) 244-1205 University of Illinois Computing & Comm Services Office System Administrator Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu UUCP :...!uiucuxc!uiucux1!lemson NeXTMail & MIME accepted BITNET : LEMSON@UIUCVMD
From: danno@CSOS.ORST.EDU (Daniel Bigelow) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Frame 3.0.1 dies on black NS3.1 Message-ID: <29qssd$9mb@jadzia.CSOS.ORST.EDU> Date: 17 Oct 93 07:39:57 GMT Article-I.D.: jadzia.29qssd$9mb Organization: not very well Hi NextKin, Having installed my version 3.0.1 of frame on 030 cube running NS3.1... I remember a thread describing problems folks were having right after 3.1 came out. I was not *nearly* as interested in the solution then as I am *now*... Was anything figured out, is mine the latest version, and will this version work on my system? Email me at danno@csos.orst.edu and I'll summarize thanx a MIP, --danno
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.text.tex From: hickman@cwis.unomaha.edu (Betty Hickman) Subject: epsf macro, NeXT TeX questions Message-ID: <hickman.750873551@cwis> Sender: news@news.unomaha.edu (UNO Network News Server) Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1993 15:59:11 GMT I'm using the epsf macro to include postscript files generated from Diagram!2 into a TeX document - all under Nextstep and have a few questions: 1. For purposes of this macro, are the actual values of the bounding box specification important, or does it just need the implied information regarding the width and length of the box, e.g., are the bounding box specifications [0 0 200 100] and [72 620 272 720] equivalent (again, just for purposes of this macro)? 2. What is the best way to center (horizontally) graphics included using epsf? I tried $$\epsffile...$$, and it seems to work sometimes, but not always. 3. When I create a PostScript file from Diagram!2, it always gives me a bounding box which includes the entire vertical length of the page, even though the actual figure covers only a few vertical inches. I've tried various things, the most obvious of course is changing the page size, but nothing seems to work. I've had to do the painful measuring, etc to adjust the bounding box parameters appropriately. Is there any help for this situation? Betty Hickman hickman@felix.unomaha.edu
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From: robinc@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Robert Delucca) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Problems with StarShipView Backspace Mod Date: 17 Oct 1993 15:56:04 -0400 Organization: Homewood Academic Computing, Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore, Md, USA Message-ID: <29s80kINN89u@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> Greetings, I cannot get the StarShipView Backspace Module to work on this NSTC. Note that I downloaded the already compiled version, as I lack Project Builder on this machine. The README file states that I should be able to use the compiled module (placing it in ~/Library /BackSpaceView or /LocalLibrary/BackSpaceViews) but I always get "Unable to Dynamically Load Classes" on startup. Can some kind soul explain what this means? Thanks L.A. Brooks
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: christov@nazgul.st.hmc.edu (Christopher R. Douty) Subject: Re: ksh for NS/Intel Message-ID: <CF2A7I.tx@news.claremont.edu> Sender: news@news.claremont.edu (The News System) Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont CA 91711 References: <29qd3d$m1i@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1993 21:54:53 GMT In article <29qd3d$m1i@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson) writes: > herbst@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (robert.s.herbst) writes: > > >Does anyone out there have a copy of ksh for NS 3.1/Intel that they could > >send me, or is it available from orst or purdue?? > You will have to get those source from somewhere else, though, > because they are licensed from AT&T. Given your employer, however, > you might be able to find them around. :-) Ah, but you forget that AT&T doesn't own unix anymore, the Mormons, er, Novell does. And things continue to get more interesting... -- Christopher Douty cdouty@nazgul.st.hmc.edu | MIME and | "I ask you, which government Christopher_Douty@hmc.edu | NeXTmail OK | is more threat to liberty, the ----------------------------------------------+ weak, severely limited government of 1789, or the mega-state of today that takes 40 to 50 percent of our income, has minions as numerous as the stars in the heavens and
From: jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Joseph W Reiss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Problems with StarShipView Backspace Mod Date: 18 Oct 1993 01:10:22 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <29sqdu$5nh@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> References: <29s80kINN89u@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> Robinc@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Robert Delucca) wrote... > >Greetings, > >I cannot get the StarShipView Backspace Module to >work on this NSTC. > >I always get "Unable to Dynamically Load Classes" on >startup. Can some kind soul explain what this means? Same response I'm getting on my NS(not-T)C. This looks like it could be a really cool screen saver, but if I can't get it to load... Anybody who can tip us off as to what (if anything) we can do to fix this, PLEASE POST! Joe -- __________ | NeXTMail? We can do NeXTMail!!! | |___) | """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" \_/OE | \EISS | Real programmers don't comment their code. If it was `---- | hard to write, it should be hard to read.
From: chris@stokeisland.ohi.com (Christopher J. Traynor) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: DFAX Date: 17 Oct 1993 23:50:40 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9310180357.AA01516@stokeisland.ohi.com> For those of you out there trying to download the upgrade to DFax, let me save you the bother! To put it bluntly, it sucks. I called them so many times about an upgrade that works that they could see me comming and stopped allowing me to talk to their customer support. I told them about all the problems I was having under 3.1 and they told me the new version would solve them. *NOT* First of all, I may be going out on a limb here but, I thought that people bought faxing software so they could send faxes...Call me looney, but I'm tired of performing voodoo on this thing to get it to work. Now they tell me that they don't support the 9600bd modem from Supra. I specifically told them my modem type EVERY time I called an no-one told me anything. As a matter of fact, they told me to get the upgrade ROMs from Supra so that it would work and I did. Still no good. I am very cautious about flaming companies about things, never having done it before, but this situation borders on a scam. I too am a NeXT developer and am the president of my firm. How could they put this "product" on the market with a comic book for an instruction manual and then leave their customers without support. That kind of irresponsibility makes a small market like this one look bad. I leave them no excuse. You're all invited to join me on the NXFax line. I'll bring the donuts. Cheers, Christopher J. Traynor President Object Horizons
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: BrianW@SoundS.WA.com (Brian Willoughby) Subject: SoftPC on NeXTdimension? Message-ID: <CF3AGM.1xH@sounds.wa.com> Sender: brianw@sounds.wa.com (Brian Willoughby) Organization: Sound Consulting, Bellevue, WA, USA Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1993 10:57:57 GMT Hi folks, I got a copy of the SoftPC demo on either the 3.0 or 3.1 User CDs, I forget which. It doesn't run Windows on my NeXTdimension, although it does run DOS. Does anyone have an e-mail address for the makers of SoftPC? I would like to ask them why I would want to buy their product if the demo doesn't work on my system... -- Brian Willoughby Software Design Engineer, BSEE from NCSU NeXTmail welcome Sound Consulting: Software Design and Development BrianW@SoundS.WA.com Bellevue, WA
From: murao@kobe-u.ac.jp Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Problems with StarShipView Backspace Mod Message-ID: <murao.93Oct18151036@blueslab> Date: 18 Oct 93 20:10:36 GMT References: <29s80kINN89u@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> <29sqdu$5nh@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Sender: news@icluna.kobe-u.ac.jp (news-admin) Distribution: comp Organization: Information Processing Center Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 Hi netter, > Robinc@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Robert Delucca) wrote... > > > >Greetings, > > > >I cannot get the StarShipView Backspace Module to > >work on this NSTC. > > > >I always get "Unable to Dynamically Load Classes" on > >startup. Can some kind soul explain what this means? > > Same response I'm getting on my NS(not-T)C. This looks like it could > be a really cool screen saver, but if I can't get it to load... > > Anybody who can tip us off as to what (if anything) we can do to fix > this, PLEASE POST! > > Joe I've got same message on NeXT cube with FAT version of StarShipView. Please try to use non-FAT version of StarShipView, this works well on my machine. --- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hajime Murao <murao@kobe-u.ac.jp> -*- NeXTmail gladly accepted !! Graduate School of Science and Technology, Kobe University, Japan Phone 078-881-1212 (ext.2733) / FAX 078-882-4888 / NIFTY NAA01617
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software From: jq@phcs.com (Jim Quick) Subject: Re: HELP!!! f2c hates me :-) Message-ID: <CF3KFA.rL@phcs.com> Organization: Private Healthcare Systems, Inc References: <1993Oct16.222804.30591@iitmax.iit.edu> Distribution: usa Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1993 14:33:10 GMT In article <1993Oct16.222804.30591@iitmax.iit.edu> boyan@tmnxt1.iit.edu writes: >Today (10/16/93) I got the f2c source code form >research.att.com and attempted to compile it on a >NeXTStation running NeXTStep 2.1 and GNU C compiler as >distributed by NeXT. Everything went fine, and the f2c >convertor itself seems to work OK, but I can't compile >the C code it produces. Here are some specifics: > >1) f2c ft.f -> this produces ft.c with no complaints >2) cc -I/usr/local/include -L/usr/local/lib -lF77 -lI77 >-lm -o deriv deriv.c >Boyan Boyanov >boyan@tmnxt1.iit.edu Libraries should be searched only after the symbols to be included from them are referenced. So, try moving the '-l' options to the end of the command line. -- ___ ___ mail: uunet!phcs!jq PHCS, Inc. Advanced Technology Group / / / or jq@phcs.com It's spelled "Luxury Yacht", but it's \_/ (_\/ Fax: (617) 863-8575 pronounced "Throat-Warbler Mangrove". ) Voice: (617) 861-5579 NeXTMail O.K.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson) Subject: Re: need a Next WriteNow to ANYTHING converter Message-ID: <1993Oct18.141753.4144@afs.com> Sender: greg@afs.com References: <1993Oct16.173814.12262@Princeton.EDU> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1993 14:17:53 GMT In article <1993Oct16.173814.12262@Princeton.EDU> jeffblum@ernie.Princeton.EDU (Jeffrey Robert Blum) writes: > In article <CEyKDE.1Kv@dove.nist.gov>, Eric S. Boltz <eboltz@nist.gov> wrote: > >In article <1993Oct14.191108.28475@Princeton.EDU> jeff blum@ernie.Princeton.EDU > >(Jeffrey Robert Blum) writes: > >> In article <29j905$cu8@news.u.washington.edu>, > >> Squish <squish@hitl.washington.edu> wrote: > >> >Sorry to barge into this newsgroup like a bull in a china shop but I > >> >am looking for a WriteNow to ANYTHING converter (perferably MS-Word > >> >or ASCII).Does such a beast exist? > > > >> I believe that you can just go to "Save As..." in the File menu and > >> select RTF or ASCII to save in... > > > >Unless you don't have a copy of WriteNow! > > Good point. The executable command-line program that does this is inside > the WriteNow.app folder as a separate filter. Perhaps Appsoft would be > willing to license just this filter? Then again, if it is just a few > files, perhaps someone would be willing to convert them for you... (Drop > me a line...) In 2 1/2 months, there will be a WriteNow converter called WriteUp(tm). Perhaps you've seen the announcements... 8^) In the meantime, AFS just acquired the source code to the wn2rtf filter inside WriteNow. Since NeXT was kind enough to license it to us free (thanks, Steve!), we will make it publicly available once we figure out how to make it work from the command line. -- Gregory H. Anderson | "History is the fiction we invent to Revisionist Autobiographer | persuade ourselves that events are Anderson Financial Systems | knowable and that life has order and greg@afs.com (NeXTmail OK) | direction." -- Calvin & Hobbes, 7/19/93
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) Subject: Conversion (Was Re: need a Next WriteNow to ANYTHING) Message-ID: <1993Oct18.165149.22061@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: Stanford University References: <1993Oct18.141753.4144@afs.com> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 93 16:51:49 GMT Gregory H. Anderson writes > In the meantime, AFS just acquired the source code to the wn2rtf > filter inside WriteNow. Since NeXT was kind enough to license it > to us free (thanks, Steve!), we will make it publicly available > once we figure out how to make it work from the command line. That's great. But here's a suggestion. It would be much more in keeping with NeXTSTEP's drag-and-drop to have a graphical way to do this. Something like David Burrowes' excellent Mac format conversion applets. Not that we don't also need a command-line version; just that a graphical version would be nice. Which leads me to thinking that this would be an excellent extension of the workspace inspector panel. An extra panel in this panel would provide a standard interface to all available filters. Bringing up this panel would produce something that looks like the Tools panel, but shows all the formats to which the selected file could be converted to (eg for a WriteNow file, to ascii or rtf). Clicking on the relevant one would make it so (perhaps prompting for a new name) (I say perhaps because the default of using the old name with the new extension seems perfectly reasonable). There might be an option for "destructive conversion" (ie replace the original with the converted version). App providers and others would simply write filters which would be stored in /LocalLibrary/Filters. This would be another way in which NeXT could provide a very powerful extensible tool for its users. -- - Stefano Pagiola Food Research Institute, Stanford University spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged) spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
From: doug_wiebe@next.com (Doug Wiebe) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Multi-disk packages Date: 15 Oct 1993 20:29:38 GMT Organization: NeXT, Inc. Message-ID: <29n17i$if1@rosie.next.com> References: <ARROUYE.93Oct14101413@petole.imag.fr> > Anyone know what's up with 3.1 and multi disk packages... I have > installed multi disk packages that were made under 3.0 or lower but > the ones I create under 3.1 seem to have a problem ejecting the first > disk.... > Any ideas???? > Shell scripts within the 3.1 Installer distribution are reputed to be > bugfull. The "solution" is either to make the package with 3.0 (which i > not possible for NS/FIP), or to manually install the archive, by > concatenating all tar files before extrcating them. The 3.1 Installer "package" script is not the problem. Installer "bom" (bill of materials) files changed from a textual format used in 2.X and 3.0 to a binary IXStoreFile-based format in 3.1. However, in 3.1 there is a bug in IXStoreFile that leaves a file descriptor for the backing file open after the IXStoreFile object is freed. This open fd prevents the ejection of the first floppy disk. Unfortunately this bug was not found until it was too late to fix for 3.1. It is fixed in subsequent releases. As mentioned in the included text above, NeXT recommends that developers use the 3.0 package script *in the case of multi-floppy packages.* The 3.1 package script does work whenever the package will not be distributed as a multi-floppy package. There is a downside to the workaround: m68k/i386 "fat" multi-floppy packages that are generated using the 3.0 package script must be installed fat by the customer since there is insufficient information in the textual bom to allow Installer to "thinstall" such a package. BTW, the 3.0 package script works OK under NS/FIP. On the customer side, the "generate a single on-line package from the floppy packages" technique mentioned above can be used in the unfortunate case where the customer receives a multi-floppy package generated without the workaround. Doug Wiebe Software Engineering NeXT Computer, Inc. P.S. Here is a (slightly bug-fixed) 3.0 package script for those who need it (NewsGrazer will probably wrap long lines in the script so it might take some editing on your end to unwrap those lines). ---------------------------------------------------------- #! /bin/csh -ef set prog = `/usr/bin/basename $0` set usage = "Usage: $prog [-B] [-f] root-dir info-file [tiff-file] [-d dest-dir]" set noglob # gather parameters if ($#argv == 0) then echo $usage exit(1) endif while ( $#argv > 0 ) switch ( $argv[1] ) case -d: if ( $?destDir ) then echo ${prog}: dest-dir parameter already set to ${destDir}. echo $usage exit(1) else if ( $#argv < 2 ) then echo ${prog}: -d option requires destination directory. echo $usage exit(1) else set destDir = $argv[2] shift; shift breaksw endif case -f: if ( $?rootDir ) then echo ${prog}: root-dir parameter already set to ${rootDir}. echo $usage exit(1) else if ( $#argv < 2 ) then echo ${prog}: -f option requires package root directory. echo $usage exit(1) else set rootDir = $argv[2] set fflag shift; shift breaksw endif case -B: set bigTarFlag shift breaksw case -*: echo ${prog}: Unknown option: $argv[1] echo $usage exit(1) case *.info: if ( $?info ) then echo ${prog}: info-file parameter already set to ${info}. echo $usage exit(1) else set info = "$argv[1]" shift breaksw endif case *.tiff: if ( $?tiff ) then echo ${prog}: tiff-file parameter already set to ${tiff}. echo $usage exit(1) else set tiff = "$argv[1]" shift breaksw endif default: if ( $?rootDir ) then echo ${prog}: unrecognized parameter: $argv[1] echo $usage exit(1) else set rootDir = "$argv[1]" shift breaksw endif endsw end # check for mandatory parameters if ( ! $?rootDir ) then echo ${prog}: missing root-dir parameter. echo $usage exit(1) else if ( ! $?info) then echo ${prog}: missing info-file parameter. echo $usage exit(1) endif # destDir gets default value if unset on command line if ( $?destDir ) then /bin/mkdirs $destDir else set destDir = `/bin/pwd` endif # derive the root name for the package from the root name of the info file set root = `/usr/bin/basename $info .info` # create package directory set pkg = ${destDir}/${root}.pkg echo Generating Installer package $pkg ... if ( -e $pkg ) /bin/rm -rf $pkg /bin/mkdirs -m 755 $pkg # tar and compress root directory to package archive set pkgArchive = $pkg/$root.tar.Z echo -n " creating package archive ... " if ( $?fflag ) then set pkgTop = ${rootDir:t} set parent = ${rootDir:h} if ( "$parent" == "$pkgTop" ) set parent = "." if ( $?bigTarFlag ) then (cd $parent; /NextAdmin/Installer.app/installer_bigtar cf - $pkgTop) | /usr/ucb/compress -f -c > $pkgArchive else (cd $parent; /bin/tar cf - $pkgTop) | /usr/ucb/compress -f -c > $pkgArchive endif else if ( $?bigTarFlag ) then (cd $rootDir; /NextAdmin/Installer.app/installer_bigtar cf - .) | /usr/ucb/compress -f -c > $pkgArchive else (cd $rootDir; /bin/tar cf - .) | /usr/ucb/compress -f -c > $pkgArchive endif endif /bin/chmod 444 $pkgArchive echo done. # copy info file to package set pkgInfo = $pkg/$root.info echo -n " copying ${info:t} ... " /bin/cp $info $pkgInfo /bin/chmod 444 $pkgInfo echo done. # copy tiff file to package if ( $?tiff ) then set pkgTiff = $pkg/$root.tiff echo -n " copying ${tiff:t} ... " /bin/cp $tiff $pkgTiff /bin/chmod 444 $pkgTiff echo done. endif # generate bom file set pkgBom = $pkg/$root.bom echo -n " generating bom file ... " if ( $?bigTarFlag ) then /usr/ucb/zcat $pkgArchive | /NextAdmin/Installer.app/installer_bigtar tvf - > $pkgBom else /usr/ucb/zcat $pkgArchive | /NextAdmin/Installer.app/installer_tar tvf - > $pkgBom endif /bin/chmod 444 $pkgArchive echo done. # generate sizes file set pkgSizes = $pkg/$root.sizes echo -n " generating sizes file ... " # compute number of files in package set numFiles = `/bin/cat $pkgBom | /usr/ucb/wc -l` # compute package size when compressed @ compressedSize = `/bin/du -s $pkg | /bin/awk '{print $1}'` @ compressedSize += 3 # add 1KB each for sizes, location, status files @ infoSize = `/bin/ls -s $pkgInfo | /bin/awk '{print $1}'` @ bomSize = `/bin/ls -s $pkgBom | /bin/awk '{print $1}'` if ( $?tiff ) then @ tiffSize = `/bin/ls -s $pkgTiff | /bin/awk '{print $1}'` else @ tiffSize = 0 endif @ installedSize = `/bin/du -s $rootDir | /bin/awk '{print $1}'` @ installedSize += $infoSize + $bomSize + $tiffSize + 3 # echo size parameters to sizes file echo NumFiles $numFiles > $pkgSizes echo InstalledSize $installedSize >> $pkgSizes echo CompressedSize $compressedSize >> $pkgSizes echo done. echo " ... finished generating $pkg." exit(0) # end package
From: davida@hamlet.umd.edu (David Arnold) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: SLIP - Help needed Date: 18 Oct 1993 12:19:59 -0400 Organization: University of Maryland, College Park Distribution: na Message-ID: <29ufnf$j7n@hamlet.umd.edu> I am a consultant for the CSC here at the Univ. of Maryland, College Park. I was campus NeXT support until NeXT pulled their support from underneath me, so now I get along as best I can. I have a user who just called with a problem with Marble Teleconnect. He had a NeXTstation at home running 3.0 and decided to upgrade to 3.1. After he did so, the only thing he couldn't get back up and working was the M.T. software. He followed up with Marble, and they informed him that there was a problem with their software and the 3.1 kernel, so he was basically out of luck. They did not give him any indication that either a patch existed or that they would be fixing the problem. He called me in a panic, because he and others do real work on that system, and now he has no SLIP access anymore. Does anyone out there have either a patch for this problem, or know of alternate software he can use instead of Marble Teleconnect? If this is in a FAQ somewhere, just point me in the right direction. Thanks, David Arnold (301)405-7636 Inet: davida@umd5.umd.edu Consultant, CSC Bitnet: davida%umd5.umd.edu@cunyvm University of Maryland UUCP: uunet!umd5.umd.edu!davida College Park, MD 20742 NeXTmail: davida@anagram.umd.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Eric Noyau <e_noyau@cubx.com> Subject: Re: Info abut ZZVolume needed. Message-ID: <1993Oct18.101015.2231@pelane.cubx.com> Sender: noyau@pelane.cubx.com Organization: Cub'x systemes References: <29oqnr$k8n@loch2.cc.strath.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1993 10:10:15 GMT "Gabor.Freivogel" writes > [...] > I was told that ZZVolume is a french product. Is there a way to cantact the > this company directly? > Try gery@ares.fdn.org. Amicalement, Eric -- % e_noyau@cubx.com (Eric Noyau) Small NeXTMail ok % /d{def}def/i{add d}d/Z{rand 2147483647 div mul d}d 99 -2 9{-1 1/X 500 Z/Y 700 Z/C .3 Z{C setgray/r exch d X Y r 0 360 arc fill/X X .5 i/Y Y .6 i/C C 1 C sub r div i}for}for showpage % Be carefull ! I'm a .signature virus...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: stiv@netcom.com (Stiv D. Ostenberg) Subject: Re: SoftPC on NeXTdimension? Message-ID: <stivCF3wEy.LL0@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) References: <CF3AGM.1xH@sounds.wa.com> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1993 18:52:09 GMT BrianW@SoundS.WA.com (Brian Willoughby) writes: >Hi folks, >I got a copy of the SoftPC demo on either the 3.0 or 3.1 User CDs, I forget >which. It doesn't run Windows on my NeXTdimension, although it does run DOS. There are two options for the type of hard disk file SoftPC creates when you first start it up. Sounds like you didn't push the Windows button. You can create a new disk drive with Windows on it and use that and you should be fine. >Does anyone have an e-mail address for the makers of SoftPC? I would like to >ask them why I would want to buy their product if the demo doesn't work on my >system... Try "insignia@netcom.com". "stiv@netcom.com" is my personal account and I will answer questions I recieve here, but I make no promises as to when I will log in. The Stiv -- Stiv Ostenberg stiv@netcom.netcom.com| Sable, Saltairwise, a Claighmore ---------------------------------------+ inverted Argent, a Rowan Branch Or Tech Support, Insignia Solutions | --<------ ------>-- ---------------------------------------+ Conner MacCiaran
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: gideon@otago.ac.nz (Gideon King) Subject: Re: Problems with StarShipView Backspace Mod Message-ID: <CF42pq.5wH@news.otago.ac.nz> Sender: usenet@news.otago.ac.nz (News stuff) Organization: University of Otago References: <29sqdu$5nh@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1993 21:08:13 GMT I mailed a response to Robert Delucca after his first post - I guess as others are interested, I'll put it here as well: ! >I cannot get the StarShipView Backspace Module to ! >work on this NSTC. ! ! Anybody who can tip us off as to what (if anything) we can do to fix ! this, PLEASE POST! ! I grabbed it just the other day, and shoved it in the backspace app wrapper and it works fine from there. --- The Black Albatross Gideon King | Phone +64-3-479 8347 University of Otago | Fax +64-3-479 8529 Department of Computer Science | e-mail gideon@otago.ac.nz P.O. Box 56 | Dunedin | NeXT mail ok New Zealand |
From: bkowal@aludra.usc.edu (Brian A. Kowal) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Zmodem, Tiptop, Icomm Date: 18 Oct 1993 14:32:03 -0700 Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA Sender: bkowal@aludra.usc.edu Message-ID: <29v20j$h45@aludra.usc.edu> I have been trying to get the resume feature of Zmodem working. I have tried both Tiptop and Icomm that impliment Zmodem. From what I understand, Zmodem will continue a download after a breakdown in communication has occured. Whenever I have tried it, Zmodem starts from scratch and overwrites the existing file rather than checking out the size of the aborted send and resumeing the send at the point where it was left off. Any advice is greatly appreciated. Regards, Brian A. Kowal <><, Unix Technical Support (213) 740-9338 University Computing Services University of Southern California kowal@usc.edu
From: wilsobr@storm.cs.orst.edu (Blooberry Muffins! 8-}) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: "Pencil-Me-In" ---does anyone know about? Message-ID: <29v460INNsfl@flop.ENGR.ORST.EDU> Date: 18 Oct 93 22:09:04 GMT Article-I.D.: flop.29v460INNsfl Organization: Computer Science Department, Oregon State University I have just found out about this program and a few of its features, but would like more info. If anyone knows who to contact, where to FTP... anything that might put me on the trail to getting more information; it would be very helpful. Thanks, Brian Wilson wilsobr@storm.cs.orst.edu -- --- Brian Wilson wilsobr@storm.cs.orst.edu
From: matthewm@sgate.com (Mike Matthews) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Engage! Desktop Date: 18 Oct 1993 12:10:23 -0400 Organization: Collins International Services Company Message-ID: <29uf5f$cjf@sgate.com> I'm having some difficulties with Workspace Errors (you know, the kind that pretty much force you to log out), and I'm trying to determine if this is a NEXTSTEP 3.1 bug or something triggered by third party software. Engage! Desktop frequently has a problem with PostScript errors, so I'm wondering if anyone else has had Workspace Errors with Engage! Desktop, and if those errors go away if you don't use E! Desktop. It's been too sporadic for me to tell. Also, if anyone gets this, please Email me -- it's a first attempt at posting to the outside world. There's no way to get NIS reverse-alias mapping for INN, is there? ------ Mike Matthews, Mike_Matthews@sgate.com (NeXTmail accepted) ------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: Neil Greene <neil@bMD.com> Subject: [Q]: Setting up slip server under NS3.1 Message-ID: <1993Oct17.223247.15870@bMD.com> Sender: neil@bMD.com Organization: benchMark Developments, Inc. (Lex, KY) Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1993 22:32:47 GMT I am using Louis A. Mamakos slip software and would like to set up one of our NeXT machines as a SLIP server. I have everything installed; but, what exactly needs to be done to set up the server side. I have the config.slip file set correctly, "as far as I can tell." I have tried excepting a call by issuing the "slip0 DISABLECALL" and by the default configuration of "slip0 ENABLECALL". Permissions are set correctly for the sliptest account with the correct start-up shell. Here is a copy of my syslog with the error I am still getting: Oct 14 12:49:50 deepthought mach: dialupip: Installing new line discipline 4 Oct 14 12:49:50 deepthought mach: dialupip: Installing new major device 16 for /dev/dialup0 Oct 14 12:49:51 deepthought mach: dialupip: feature mask 0x1, serial number 1000001 Oct 14 12:49:50 deepthought tcldiald[206]: DialUp IP [920904] dialing daemon started Oct 14 12:49:50 deepthought tcldiald[206]: Kernel driver is version 920904 Oct 14 12:49:50 deepthought tcldiald[206]: kernel driver supports 2 interfaces Oct 14 12:49:50 deepthought tcldiald[206]: dialupip: kernel syslog facility is 152 Oct 14 12:49:50 deepthought tcldiald[206]: File /usr/dialupip/config/keyfile.slip: Serial number 1000001 owned by SLIP-only unlimited use Oct 14 18:05:43 deepthought -dudisc[2140]: Setting uid to root Oct 14 18:05:43 deepthought -dudisc[2140]: Can't find device name in program name ("-dudisc")
From: slv0y@cc.usu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Anyone using Daydream yet? Message-ID: <1993Oct18.144400.2135@cc.usu.edu> Date: 18 Oct 93 14:44:00 MDT Organization: Utah State University Is anyone out there using the Daydream soft/hardware that was mentioned in the October NextWorld? I would be curious to know how easy it was to install, and how well it works. I am looking at getting it to run PhotoShop. Thanks in advance, John Zollinger slv0y@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: coconut@crash.cts.com (Brian Dear) Subject: QUESTION: Big Ben sound for NS3.1? Organization: Coconut Computing, Inc., La Jolla, CA Date: 18 Oct 93 17:13:28 PDT Message-ID: <1993Oct18.171328.7843@crash> I seem to recall that in the distant past someone mentioned a neat-oo "Big Ben chimes" application for NeXT such that at 15 minutes past, 30 past, 45 past, and on the hour, the traditional Big Ben bell sounds chimed out of the NeXT's speaker (this is for a NeXTcube w/ MegaPixel display). So I guess it would have to be a little app that sits in the background and monitors the system clock. Anyone know if this exists, and if so, where (i.e., anon ftp)? - bd * brian dear * coconut computing, inc. * brian@coconut.com *
From: jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Joseph W Reiss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Problems with StarShipView Backspace Mod Date: 19 Oct 1993 00:56:58 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <29ve0r$8q4@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> References: <29sqdu$5nh@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <CF42pq.5wH@news.otago.ac.nz> Gideon@otago.ac.nz (Gideon King) wrote... >! >I cannot get the StarShipView Backspace Module to >! >work on this NSTC. >! >! Anybody who can tip us off as to what (if anything) we can do to fix >! this, PLEASE POST! > >I grabbed it just the other day, and shoved it in the backspace app >wrapper and it works fine from there. ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGH! Is this going to be the next CDPlayer.app? You know, the kind of program where 1/3 of the people get it working with no trouble, 1/3 of the people get it working at various amounts of fiddling, and 1/3 of the people just don't get it to work at all?!? I've tried the non-FAT version, as someone suggested. I've tried putting StarShipView.BackModule in /LocalLibrary/BackSpaceViews, ~/Library/BackSpaceViews, and even in /LocalLibrary/BackSpace.app. I even tried putting it into BackSpace.app without the .BackModule wrapper, but nothing seems to work. It's always the same old "Cannot dynamically load class: StarShipView" message. Maybe it's just me (wouldn't be the first time). Is anyone else having the same bad luck that I am? Joe -- __________ | NeXTMail? We can do NeXTMail!!! | |___) | """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" \_/OE | \EISS | Captain, I sense a presence. It's...it's horrible, `---- | vile, evil. It's...it's...a SPLIT!!! (Arrrrrrgh!)
From: alvin@cheddar.cse.ucsc.edu (Alvin Jee) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Problems with StarShipView Backspace Mod Date: 19 Oct 1993 04:42:31 GMT Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz Message-ID: <29vr7n$8st@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> References: <29ve0r$8q4@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Hello netters! I just looked at StarShipView-FAT.BackModule.tar.Z and StartShipView.tar.Z off of sonata.cc.purdue.edu and they looked like they are incomplete. In order for BackSpace to be able to load the module, there had to have been a file called StarShipView.o or something like that in the tar file. None was there. So, I figured maybe I need to compile it. Well, I couldn't find all the source and header files--let alone a Makefile--to build the thing. So, to cut it short, sonata doesn't have a good version of the whatever it's supposed to be. How have other people gotten this thing to run? Which ftp site did you grab it from? Maybe the person who submitted it should make a new tar file and get rid of the bad ones. -- Alvin Jee e-mail: alvin@cse.ucsc.edu NeXTMail gleefully accepted!
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Quick Guide to the comp.sys.next.* newsgroups Date: 19 Oct 1993 00:34:34 -0400 Organization: Next Announcements Message-ID: <29vqoo$slo@digifix.digifix.com> The current menagerie: comp.sys.next.advocacy This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. comp.sys.next.announce Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) The NEXTSTEP FAQs are posted here monthly as well. This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. comp.sys.next.bugs A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well. comp.sys.next.hardware Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. comp.sys.next.marketplace NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. comp.sys.next.misc For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! comp.sys.next.programmer Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. The NEXTSTEP programmer FAQs are posted here. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. comp.sys.next.software This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. comp.sys.next.sysadmin Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. related Newsgroups comp.soft-sys.nextstep Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. comp.lang.objective-c Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. comp.object Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep-d next-advocacy-d next-announce-d next-bugs-d next-hardware-d next-marketplace-d next-misc-d next-programmer-d next-software-d next-sysadmin-d (For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to <digestif@antigone.com>). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's. To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying: SUB Listname YourName Example: SUB next-hardware-d John Doe -------------------------------------------------------------------- Written by: Eric P. Scott eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU Minor editing: Scott Anguish sanguish@digifix.com Additions from: Greg Anderson (Greg_Anderson@afs.com) and Michael Pizolato (Michael_Pizolato@afs.com)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: burns@sparc4.cs.uiuc.edu (Edward John Burns) Subject: Summary of Packet Sniffer Responses Message-ID: <CF4qA9.56o@sparc0a.cs.uiuc.edu> Sender: news@sparc0a.cs.uiuc.edu Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1993 05:37:20 GMT Thanks to all who responded to my request for information on network related kernal servers and their packet sniffing applications. Here is a summary of the generous and helpful responses I received: Don McGregor (mcgredo@crl.com) pointed me to Chase Turner, who had done some work with this in the past. Michael Shaler (mshaler@tdocad.sps.mot.com) pointed me to cs.orst. Alexander Konstantinou (akonstan@math.macalstr.edu) warned me of a hardware bug that gets triggered when one puts the NeXT in promiscuous mode. (I haven't tried, so as far as I'm concerned I don't know if this is true or not) Tim Pugh (tpugh@orst.edu) again pointed to Chase Turner and Cory Jones, chase@marble.com and jonesc@tsunami.intel.com respectively. Chase himself mailed me and told of his and Cory's non-disclosure agreement with NeXT about their packet sniffer project. He then pointed me to a very nice and illustrative package called eni, available by anonymous ftp at: Host binkley.cs.mcgill.ca Location: /pub/next DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x 512 Feb 23 1993 eni Once again, thanks for the replies and I hope this summary is somewhat helpful. Ed +-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^+ | Ed Burns | ACM Secretary, U of IL Urbana | h 217-332-3281| | e-burns@uiuc.edu | SigMicro 6:00 Wednesdays | o 217-333-5828| | "Open your thighs to fate." e.e. cummings, "Conceive a man" | +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: spock!charlie (Karl Prager) Subject: CASE tools for NS Message-ID: <1993Oct14.162306.261@elin-ekt.co.at> Sender: charlie@elin-ekt.co.at Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1993 16:23:06 GMT Does anyone have information about CASE tools working with NeXTstep like thouse avalaible for Sun. The software should have an Objective-C output. I want to use it for planning and structured system design for greater projects. If there is also administration for projects to manage modules from different programmers in the network - it would be great. Thanks Charlie.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Florian.Gutzwiller@open.ch (Florian Gutzwiller) Subject: Re: "Pencil-Me-In" ---does anyone know about? -> major drawback! Message-ID: <CF51K2.6vA@eunet.ch> Sender: usenet@eunet.ch (News Administrator) Organization: EUnet Switzerland References: <29v460INNsfl@flop.ENGR.ORST.EDU> Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1993 09:40:48 GMT Blooberry Muffins! 8-} writes > > I have just found out about this program and a few of its features, but > would like more info. If anyone knows who to contact, where to FTP... > anything that might put me on the trail to getting more information; it > would be very helpful. We use PencilMeIn. It's really outstanding and has powerful group scheduling capabilities. It sends mail to my pager half an hour before my next meeting, and it has a very nice user interface. Andy Turk (andy@sarrus.com) will be happy to send you more information. -> BUT! There is NO way to synchronize PMI with handheld organizers such as the IQ-9000 or the Apple Newton. We'd be willing to write our own, but Sarrus Software wouldn't even provide us with a minimal API or data format specs. Andy! If you read this please do something before we have to set up a PMI reverse engineering task force!! Both changing views (Day/Week/WeekDetail/...) and updating group calendars is very slow since the graphics are fancy and everything is based on files. Still. I'd rather dump my Newton and burn Lotus Organizer for PMI. -Florian
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,sci.math.symbolic From: yiannis@prologos.nrl.navy.mil (John Michopoulos) Subject: Transfering Mathematica to NSI Message-ID: <CF56B8.6sC@ra.nrl.navy.mil> Sender: usenet@ra.nrl.navy.mil Organization: Naval Research Lab, Washington, DC Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1993 11:23:31 GMT Has anybody tried to Xfer a Mathenatica license from black to white (for NSI) NeXT hardware? Is there any feedback on performance differences between the two platforms from Mma's point of view? -- john m. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |Dr.John Michopoulos (yanni)| Tel: (202) 767-2165 or -2189 | | Research Scientist | Fax: (202) 767-9181 | | Naval Research Laboratory | e-mail: yiannis@prologos.nrl.navy.mil | | Code 6380 | michopoulos@ccf3.nrl.navy.mil | | 4555 Overlook Avenue, S.W.| michopoulos@anvil.nrl.navy.mil | | Washington DC 20375-5000 | send NeXTmail to prologos.nrl.navy.mil | ------------------------------------------------------------------------ | A glimpse of a dream: Let's build rational amplifiers to move facts | | swiftly and massively so instead of crafstmen we become artists of | | research and discovery in both the physical and the conceptual worlds.| | Dreams are facts in the conceptual world anyway. | ------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: tg@chmsr.gatech.edu (T. Govindaraj) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: DFAX Date: 19 Oct 1993 12:05:49 GMT Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology Message-ID: <2a0l6t$h11@news.gatech.edu> References: <9310180357.AA01516@stokeisland.ohi.com> chris@stokeisland.ohi.com (Christopher J. Traynor) writes: > ... Now they tell me that they >don't support the 9600bd modem from Supra. I specifically told them my modem I guess this explains it, perhaps, I mean my woes with upgrades. I was rather mild and polite in my earlier posting, but I too can/will flame now. :-) I would stay away from DFax and go with NXFax next time I need fax software that works. >I am very cautious about flaming companies about things, never having done >it before, but this situation borders on a scam. I agree with Christopher. >am the president of my firm. How could they put this "product" on the market >with a comic book for an instruction manual and then leave their customers >without support. That kind of irresponsibility makes a small market like this >one look bad. I leave them no excuse. > You're all invited to join me on the NXFax line. I'll bring the donuts. > Agreed, once again. > >Cheers, >Christopher J. Traynor govind T. Govindaraj +1 404 894 3873, 894 2301 (fax) NeXTmail welcome. - - (accent on o, a; da pronounced dha) TG, Govind OK (NOT Govin) Member, League for Programming Freedom (Info from: lpf@uunet.uu.net) ISyE-0205, Georgia Tech, 765 Ferst Drive, Atlanta, GA 30332-0205, USA.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: thompson@netcom.com (Eric Thompson) Subject: Re: Problems with StarShipView Backspace Mod Message-ID: <thompsonCF5G38.H0v@netcom.com> Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) References: <29ve0r$8q4@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <29vr7n$8st@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1993 14:54:43 GMT > How have other people gotten this thing to run? Which ftp site did you grab >it from? Maybe the person who submitted it should make a new tar file and get >rid of the bad ones. I got it from orst and I'm using BackSpaceDuo to run it under 3.1 on a color turbo. No problems. Eric
From: murao@kobe-u.ac.jp Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Problems with StarShipView Backspace Mod Message-ID: <murao.93Oct19223718@blueslab> Date: 20 Oct 93 03:37:18 GMT References: <29ve0r$8q4@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <29vr7n$8st@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> Sender: news@icluna.kobe-u.ac.jp (news-admin) Distribution: comp Organization: Information Processing Center Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 Hi folks, > How have other people gotten this thing to run? Which ftp site did you grab > it from? Maybe the person who submitted it should make a new tar file and get > rid of the bad ones. I've got it from cs.orst.edu. That works fine. Please try. --- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hajime Murao <murao@kobe-u.ac.jp> -*- NeXTmail gladly accepted !! Graduate School of Science and Technology, Kobe University, Japan Phone 078-881-1212 (ext.2733) / FAX 078-882-4888 / NIFTY NAA01617
From: rhess@consilium.COM (Richard L. Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mail Software that will take a file and UUENCODE it Message-ID: <RHESS.93Oct19121239@consilium.COM> Date: 19 Oct 93 19:12:39 GMT References: <1993Oct14.203859.22734@leland.Stanford.EDU> <29kkij$j16@fermat.mayo.edu> Sender: root@cimshop.UUCP Organization: Consilium Inc., Mountain View, California. In-reply-to: brunkhorst@mayo.edu's message of 14 Oct 93 22:41:23 GMT >>>>> "Geoff" == Geoff Brunkhorst <brunkhorst@mayo.edu> writes: Geoff> How about Tickle Services service that takes the file name, uuencodes Geoff> its contents into the pasteboard and then mails the selection into a Geoff> Mail.app compose screen? You could even set the service with a Geoff> keyaccelerator... Here's a custom mail "package" for Tickle Services that I have been working/playing with. 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From: carlos@nexus (Juan Carlos De Martin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: X on a 2.1 monochrome NextStation Date: 19 Oct 1993 20:57:34 GMT Organization: University of California, Santa Barbara Message-ID: <2a1kbu$h0k@hub.ucsb.edu> I am looking for a public domain X-port for a 2.1 monochrome NextStation. Thanks in advance for your help! --juan carlos _____________________________________________________________________ Juan Carlos De Martin carlos@nexus.ece.ucsb.edu
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NS 3.2 Date: 19 Oct 1993 22:10:26 GMT Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office Message-ID: <2a1okj$gq8@news.mic.ucla.edu> What is the current ship-date on NS 3.2? Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu Asst Prof of Finance iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu AGSM at UCLA
From: bill@alamut.cognet.ucla.edu (William M. Eldridge) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Speech recognition software available? Date: 19 Oct 1993 15:04:09 -0700 Organization: UCLA Cognitive Science Research Program Message-ID: <2a1o8p$t20@alamut.cognet.ucla.edu> Title says it - looking for speech recognition software/development tools for the Next. Bill -- Bill Eldridge "Hung with care bill@cognet.ucla.edu by a jury de rigeur" 310-206-3960 (3987 fax) ..................
From: dick@pobre.ucsc.edu (Dick Jensen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NS 3.2 BLACK have anything? Date: 19 Oct 1993 22:59:20 GMT Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz Message-ID: <2a1rg8$hm4@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> Keywords: NS 3.2 Conrad Geiger and ohters have announced the availability of NS 3.2 for early November. Since the entire focus of that release seemed to be the availability of Insignia's SoftPC for Intel, I wonder if there's anything in there Black Hardware? Dick Jensen
From: gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Any NeXT OCR Experiences? Date: 19 Oct 1993 23:24:32 GMT Organization: University of Maryland, College Park Message-ID: <2a1svg$f4@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> I'm interested in hearing anyone's experiences with OCR work with Nextstep. What software is out there? How does it compare with, for example, a fast Mac and Omnipage? Please describe experience, not sales pitches. Thanks. Robert de Lucca Johns Hopkins University
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Mesa Graph Bounding Boxes Date: 20 Oct 1993 00:05:31 GMT Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office Message-ID: <2a1vcc$h1c@news.mic.ucla.edu> Does anyone know how to get rid of bounding boxes in Mesa? I'd be happy to do it by editing the postscript output in emacs if I only knew which line(s) to delete. -- Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu Asst Prof of Finance iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu AGSM at UCLA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mark@xexos.com (Mark Chamberlain) Subject: Re: "Pencil-Me-In" ---does anyone know about? -> major drawback! Message-ID: <1993Oct19.174629.4333@xexos.com> Sender: news@xexos.com Organization: Xexos, Ltd (London) References: <CF51K2.6vA@eunet.ch> Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1993 17:46:29 GMT In article <CF51K2.6vA@eunet.ch> Florian.Gutzwiller@open.ch (Florian Gutzwiller) writes: > > -> BUT! There is NO way to synchronize PMI with handheld organizers such as the > IQ-9000 or the Apple Newton. We'd be willing to write our own, but Sarrus > Software wouldn't even provide us with a minimal API or data format specs. Andy! > If you read this please do something before we have to set up a PMI reverse > engineering task force!! We get asked this by clients, over and over again. Now that we too are becoming a NewtonHouse, its something that we're keen to do as well. Love to see it. -- Mark Chamberlain +44 71 237 4535 Xexos Ltd fax +44 71 231 0844 London mark@xexos.com
From: Aaron Herskowitz <aherskow@alleg.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Mailing List Software Date: 20 Oct 1993 01:34:01 GMT Organization: Allegheny College Distribution: world Message-ID: <2a24i9$t4s@ftp.alleg.edu> I am looking for software to administer mailing lists. Although it will be ÿrun on a NeXT, it does not need to be NeXT specific. Some features I would like are: 1. ability to administer multiple mailing lists 2. circulation of messages only from list members 3. paced circulation rate (i.e. don't send 200 messages at once - spare the mail server) 4. archive messages I have asked several list administrators but haven't really heard of anything public domain/shareware that fits the bill. I am also interested in commercial products if they can meet my needs. If anyone knows of any software that would perform the above (or something close), please post/e-mail me. Thanks a lot, Aaron --- Aaron Herskowitz [NeXTmail Welcomed] E-Mail: aherskow@alleg.edu Academic Systems Manager, Technical and Network Services Allegheny College, Meadville, Pennsylvania
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: cew@quark.Stanford.EDU (Carlin E. Wiegner) Subject: Re: Mailing List Software Message-ID: <1993Oct20.034410.28790@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: Stanford University References: <2a24i9$t4s@ftp.alleg.edu> Date: Wed, 20 Oct 93 03:44:10 GMT Aaron, let me know what you find..... CW
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: gvh@metrosoft.com (Gordon Van Huizen) Subject: Re: Multi-disk packages Message-ID: <1993Oct19.192212.15746@metrosoft.com> Sender: gvh@metrosoft.com Organization: Metrosoft References: <29n17i$if1@rosie.next.com> Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1993 19:22:12 GMT In article <29n17i$if1@rosie.next.com> doug_wiebe@next.com (Doug Wiebe) writes: > As mentioned in the included text above, NeXT recommends > that developers use the 3.0 package script *in the case of > multi-floppy packages.* The 3.1 package script does > work whenever the package will not be distributed as a > multi-floppy package. There is a downside to the > workaround: m68k/i386 "fat" multi-floppy packages > that are generated using the 3.0 package script must be > installed fat by the customer since there is > insufficient information in the textual bom to allow > Installer to "thinstall" such a package. This was the key reason that we developed the MetroSuction freeware utility -- so people would be able to easily thin application once installed from multi-disk packages using a NEXTSTEP GUI utility. It's been available for some time now, and we've received a lot of positive feedback on it (the only person it seems to have confused is Dan Lavin). Version 1.1 is availabe via anonymous FTP at purdue and cs.orst. Version 1.0 had a few problems and should be discarded in favor of 1.1. Regards, Gordon -- Gordon Van Huizen vox: 619.488.9411 fax: 619.488.3045 Metrosoft gvh@metrosoft.com [NeXTmail welcome]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: coconut@crash.cts.com (Brian Dear) Subject: OPINIONS SOUGHT: Parabase Organization: Coconut Computing, Inc. Date: 19 Oct 93 20:31:47 PDT Message-ID: <1993Oct19.203147.4935@crash> We're considering Parabase for our company's database needs. Before we take the plunge on Parabase and the Gupta SQLBase, I'd love to hear from other customers who have already bought and installed these programs. I'm interested in anecdotes, opinions, comments, advice, etc. If I get any interesting replies I will summarize on the net if there's interest. Thanks, bd brian dear * coconut computing, inc. * la jolla, california * brian@coconut.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: coconut@crash.cts.com (Brian Dear) Subject: OPINIONS SOUGHT: Parabase Organization: Coconut Computing, Inc. Date: 19 Oct 93 20:32:46 PDT Message-ID: <1993Oct19.203246.4967@crash> We're considering Parabase for our company's database needs. Before we take the plunge on Parabase and the Gupta SQLBase, I'd love to hear from other customers who have already bought and installed these programs. I'm interested in anecdotes, opinions, comments, advice, etc. If I get any interesting replies I will summarize on the net if there's interest. Thanks, bd * brian dear * coconut computing, inc. * la jolla, ca * brian@coconut.com *
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mgb@moksha.uucp (Michael Branton) Subject: Re: SoftPC on NeXTdimension? Message-ID: <CF5BF3.H09@moksha.uucp> Sender: mgb@moksha.uucp (Michael Branton) Organization: Totally Disorganized References: <stivCF3wEy.LL0@netcom.com> Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1993 13:13:50 GMT In article <stivCF3wEy.LL0@netcom.com> stiv@netcom.com (Stiv D. Ostenberg) writes: > BrianW@SoundS.WA.com (Brian Willoughby) writes: > > > >Hi folks, > > >I got a copy of the SoftPC demo on either the 3.0 or 3.1 User CDs, I forget > >which. It doesn't run Windows on my NeXTdimension, although it does run DOS. > There are two options for the type of hard disk file SoftPC creates when > you first start it up. Sounds like you didn't push the Windows button. > You can create a new disk drive with Windows on it and use that and you > should be fine. > > >Does anyone have an e-mail address for the makers of SoftPC? I would like to > >ask them why I would want to buy their product if the demo doesn't work on my > >system... > Try "insignia@netcom.com". "stiv@netcom.com" is my personal account and I > will answer questions I recieve here, but I make no promises as to when I > will log in. > The Stiv > -- > Stiv Ostenberg stiv@netcom.netcom.com| Sable, Saltairwise, a Claighmore > ---------------------------------------+ inverted Argent, a Rowan Branch Or > Tech Support, Insignia Solutions | --<------ ------>-- > ---------------------------------------+ Conner MacCiaran Even if you get it running on your dimension system, you will be disappointed in the performance, as the display updates are really sloooow on a dimension system, since the tricks that were played to get a faster display don't work for the dimension. It's really quite painful to run windows. On a slab, however, it's not too bad. -- -Michael mgb@thoth.stetson.edu -- -Michael
From: marcus@ursula.ee.pdx.edu (Marcus Daniels) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Can anyone offer opinions on Tailor? Date: 20 Oct 1993 00:00:42 -0700 Message-ID: <2a2nmq$psq@ursula.ee.pdx.edu> Summary: Tailor to good to be true? Just grabbed Tailor of cs.orst.edu. Mighty impressive. Could anyone comment on what it does with output? Is it DSC?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bmhahn@poseidon.knoware.nl (Bernhard Hahn) Subject: Help with Gopher 1.3.2 Sender: news@knoware.nl (News Account) Message-ID: <CF731o.JDL@knoware.nl> Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1993 12:08:11 GMT Organization: Knoware Nederland Keywords: gopher Hello, I use Gopher v1.3.2 on a 25 MHz 68040 NeXTcube operating under NeXTSTEP 3.1, my connection to the Internet is a dialup SLIP connection. The program works fine in all aspects, behalve launching Terminal or Stuart. If I start an application on a remote computer which should launch Terminal, this generates an error in the console, or just does nothing. Any idea what I can do to make it work? Thanks, --- Bernhard Hahn Holtrichtersveld 802 7327 DG Apeldoorn The Netherlands Tel: +31-55-339220 Fax: +31-55-339220 email: bmhahn@poseidon.knoware.nl
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: lmccullo@nyx.cs.du.edu (Michael McCulloch) Subject: Re: Problems with StarShipView Backspace Mod Message-ID: <1993Oct20.140255.1751@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> of Denver for the Denver community. The University has neither control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users. Sender: usenet@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu (netnews admin account) Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept. References: <29s80kINN89u@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> <29sqdu$5nh@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Date: Wed, 20 Oct 93 14:02:55 GMT In article <29sqdu$5nh@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Joseph W Reiss) writes: > Robinc@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Robert Delucca) wrote... >> >> I cannot get the StarShipView Backspace Module to >> work on this NSTC. >> >> I always get "Unable to Dynamically Load Classes" on >> startup. Can some kind soul explain what this means? > > Same response I'm getting on my NS(not-T)C. This looks like it could > be a really cool screen saver, but if I can't get it to load... > > Anybody who can tip us off as to what (if anything) we can do to fix > this, PLEASE POST! I believe Backspace.app uses bundles to load the various screensavers. 3.1 compiled bundles will not run under 3.0. Persons who submit programs to the Net must include a 3.0 compiled version when bundles are utilized in their program if they want 3.0 users to be able to run it. -- Michael McCulloch michael@hsv.tybrin.com (NextMail Accepted!) Huntsville, Alabama
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,de.comp.sys.next From: snk@pampero.ka.sub.org (Sebastian Kowalski) Subject: S: Software to set, transpose and print music Message-ID: <CF72Fq.233@pampero.ka.sub.org> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software Sender: snk@pampero.ka.sub.org (Sebastian Kowalski) Organization: Just another one's black hardware scene in Karlsruhe, Germany Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1993 11:55:02 GMT Hi, is there anybody who can help me? I'm looking for some cheep software to set, transpose and print music in common notes style for NEXTSTEP (3.1 on black hardware). Multiple staffs (up to 6) are also important. Playing the notes set would be nice, but I don't need midi features. Please, email me, I'll post a summary. Thanks in advance -- Sebastian Kowalski, Karlsruhe, Germany | snk@pampero.ka.sub.org (NeXTMail OK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software From: burns@sparc1.cs.uiuc.edu (Edward John Burns) Subject: Obj-C Category question from a beginner Message-ID: <CF7AAI.Mt6@sparc0a.cs.uiuc.edu> Keywords: Objective-C Category MusicKit Sender: news@sparc0a.cs.uiuc.edu Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1993 14:44:42 GMT I have written some extension methods to an existing class and I am using the category feature to add them to the class as instance methods so I can call them from my program. However, I can't seem to get the methods I have added to be executed. When debugging, the code just gets stepped over and none of the things that are supposed to happen in the method tale effect. The interface looks like: @interface TuningSystem (Syntonon) - (double *)getScaleArray:(double)freq; @end And a portion of the implementation is: @implementation TuningSystem (Syntonon) - (double *)getScaleArray:(double)freq; { /* code here */ return ArrayPointer; } @end So I would have this in the main program: { static TuningSystem *theSystem; double freq = MKKeyNumToFreq(keyBend), * scale; scale = [theSystem getScaleArray:freq]; } But for some reason, getScaleArray never gets executed. Am I missing something fundamental here? Thank you very much. Ed
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jq@phcs.com (Jim Quick) Subject: Re: Problems with StarShipView Backspace Mod Message-ID: <CF7AMz.695@phcs.com> Organization: Private Healthcare Systems, Inc References: <29sqdu$5nh@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <CF42pq.5wH@news.otago.ac.nz> <29ve0r$8q4@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1993 14:52:11 GMT In article <29ve0r$8q4@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Joseph W Reiss) writes: >Gideon@otago.ac.nz (Gideon King) wrote... >>! >I cannot get the StarShipView Backspace Module to >>! >work on this NSTC. ... >>I grabbed it just the other day, and shoved it in the backspace app >>wrapper and it works fine from there. > ... > >I've tried the non-FAT version, as someone suggested. I've tried >putting StarShipView.BackModule in /LocalLibrary/BackSpaceViews, >~/Library/BackSpaceViews, and even in /LocalLibrary/BackSpace.app. I >even tried putting it into BackSpace.app without the .BackModule >wrapper, but nothing seems to work. It's always the same old "Cannot >dynamically load class: StarShipView" message. > I'm not familiar with that particular view, but if a .nib is associated with the backspace view you must copy the .nib to the same place you put the view (e.g. /LocalLibarary/BackspaceViews etc.). -- ___ ___ mail: uunet!phcs!jq PHCS, Inc. Advanced Technology Group / / / or jq@phcs.com It's spelled "Luxury Yacht", but it's \_/ (_\/ Voice: (617) 861-5579 pronounced "Throat-Warbler Mangrove". ) NeXTMail O.K.
Newsgroups: sci.math.symbolic,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc From: yiannis@prologos.nrl.navy.mil (John Michopoulos) Subject: Re: Transfering Mathematica to NSI Message-ID: <CF7D37.AnI@ra.nrl.navy.mil> Sender: usenet@ra.nrl.navy.mil Organization: Naval Research Lab, Washington, DC References: <CF56B8.6sC@ra.nrl.navy.mil> Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1993 15:45:07 GMT In article <CF56B8.6sC@ra.nrl.navy.mil> yiannis@prologos.nrl.navy.mil (John Michopoulos) writes: > Has anybody tried to Xfer a Mathenatica license from black to white (for NSI) > NeXT hardware? Is there any feedback on performance differences between the two > platforms from Mma's point of view? > > -- john m. > Well, after calling the WRI rep (who BTW was extremely helpfull and responsive) for the east coast at Boston, I was informed that the cost of the transfer will be $175.00/licence. They expect to ship in mid-November. Still have not heard any comments on performance differences between Mathematicas running on NeXT black and white hardware. Thanks to all the kind people that replied to my original posting. --jm ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |Dr.John Michopoulos (yanni)| Tel: (202) 767-2165 or -2189 | | Research Scientist | Fax: (202) 767-9181 | | Naval Research Laboratory | e-mail: yiannis@prologos.nrl.navy.mil | | Code 6380 | michopoulos@ccf3.nrl.navy.mil | | 4555 Overlook Avenue, S.W.| michopoulos@anvil.nrl.navy.mil | | Washington DC 20375-5000 | send NeXTmail to prologos.nrl.navy.mil | ------------------------------------------------------------------------ | A glimpse of a dream: Let's build rational amplifiers to move facts | | swiftly and massively so instead of crafstmen we become artists of | | research and discovery in both the physical and the conceptual worlds.| | Dreams are facts in the conceptual world anyway. | ------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: bleimeyer@mayo.edu (Robert Bleimeyer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Subject: Are there Ingres DB adaptors that run on NextStep for Intel Date: 20 Oct 1993 16:40:50 GMT Organization: Mayo Foundation Message-ID: <2a3pmi$3q4@fermat.mayo.edu> Keywords: DBkit,Ingres,NS-486 We have developed a database application for our clinical research center on NeXTSTEP. We are using the normal array of NeXT's objects, including DBkit. During development and beta testing, we have been using Sybase as the database engine. Our group currently deploys all of it's DBMS efforts in Ingres. Some of our relevant 'enterprise' information is in these Ingres databases, and we have good Ingres support within our group. While Sybase is workable, Ingres offers more to us for this application and has some strategic importance in other areas. As such, we would like to port our NeXT DBkit applications to an Ingres Server engine as soon as possible. We are aware of the DBConnect for Ingres adaptor from Pentultimate: Development (and/or Rathe Inc., depending to whom you talk) and have evaluated it for our purposes. The current release of the Ingres adaptor from penUltimate only runs on the black hardware. Given the fact our client requires Intel support, we have had discussions with penUltimate and it's partners to provide support for Ingres code. Due to pressures within our own project timetable and other factors too lengthy to address here. We are attempting to reevaluate our options in locating/developing technology to address the need for a suitable Ingres adapter. Another option is of course to remain with Sybase as a database engine within this project but that would require significant effort to bridge the Sybase and Ingres repositories here. We are seeking answers from the net to the following questions: Is there another Ingres (version 6.4 compliant) adaptor available or nearly available for NeXTSTEP for Intel? If so, can someone comment on their functionality? Is anybody interested in building an Ingres adaptor? Are you holding back because there is purportedly one on the market? Are you looking for some purchase commitments before undertaking development? Are there other users of penUltimate's Ingres adaptor that are looking for Intel support, or other enhancements to the adaptor? Please email me with the responses... I will summarize and repost if there is enough interest. ------------------------------------------------------ Robert R. Bleimeyer Internet: bleimeyer@mayo.edu Mayo Foundation 200 SW First Street Rochester, MN 55905 ------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: gvh@metrosoft.com (Gordon Van Huizen) Subject: Re: Speech recognition software available? Message-ID: <1993Oct20.171628.18458@metrosoft.com> Sender: gvh@metrosoft.com Organization: Metrosoft References: <2a1o8p$t20@alamut.cognet.ucla.edu> Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1993 17:16:28 GMT In article <2a1o8p$t20@alamut.cognet.ucla.edu> bill@alamut.cognet.ucla.edu (William M. Eldridge) writes: > Title says it - looking for speech recognition > software/development tools for the Next. We sell an end-user product called SimonSays which performs speaker-dependent trainable voice recognition for NEXTSTEP. It allows sequences of actions (such as mouse clicks, keystrokes, opening files, launching programs, etc.) to be triggered by voice or keystrokes. For more information on Simon and other Metrosoft products, please send e-mail to info@metrosoft.com. Regards, Gordon -- Gordon Van Huizen vox: 619.488.9411 fax: 619.488.3045 Metrosoft gvh@metrosoft.com [NeXTmail welcome]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: herbst@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (robert.s.herbst) Subject: Need Reliable PPP or SLIP Pkg Organization: AT&T Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1993 17:47:20 GMT Message-ID: <CF7Ir8.J5A@cbnewsj.cb.att.com> Keywords: PPP SLIP I am looking for a reliable, easy to install/configure PPP or SLIP package for NeXTSTEP for Intel 3.1. I have a Hayes compatible 14.4 Fax modem (AT&T Paradyne Dataport) and would prefer to use PPP. Is there a proxy pkg or demo out there that someone can reccomend?? I have called Morning Star, it seems that there product was recalled for the Intel platform. Thanks in advance, Bob Herbst AT&T Bell Labs Middletown, NJ bobh@mtketc1.att.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: nicolev@number_one.apana.org.au Subject: Re: Speech recognition software available? Message-ID: <CF703J.13x@number_one.apana.org.au> Sender: nicolev@number_one.apana.org.au (Nicole A Vincent) Organization: Cafe Seacombe - the Virtual NeXTSTEP Cafe Downunder. References: <2a1o8p$t20@alamut.cognet.ucla.edu> Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1993 11:04:30 GMT In article <2a1o8p$t20@alamut.cognet.ucla.edu> bill@alamut.cognet.ucla.edu (William M. Eldridge) writes: > Title says it - looking for speech recognition > software/development tools for the Next. > > Bill You can try contacting Visus,... They make a speaker independent speech to text conversion kit,... The contact is Tom Thibadeau,... email: tom@visusatl.com. I also have some info on it for those interested. Regards Nicole
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: aba@netcom.com (Alan Atlas) Subject: Re: InTouch vs. SBook Message-ID: <abaCF7Koq.Mz@netcom.com> Sender: Alan Atlas Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) References: <1993Oct3.154043.1463@next.cambridge.ma.us> <1993Oct5.042531.1259@parsec.mixcom.com> Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1993 18:29:09 GMT I just saw a product for the Mac called InTouch 2.0 by Advanced Software of Sunnyvale, CA. It is some kind of contact manager. ] Anybody know if this is related to th InTouch being discussed here? alan
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mzeller@gwdu03.gwdg.de (Meinrad Zeller) Subject: Re: Looking for public domain image processing for NeXT Message-ID: <36DIB8IG@gwdu03.gwdg.de> Organization: GWDG, Goettingen References: <1993Oct6.154046.45058@slate.mines.colorado.edu> Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1993 19:49:32 GMT Lorien Pratt (lpratt@slate.mines.colorado.edu) wrote: : Can anybody recommend a public domain image processing package for the : NeXT? I'm looking for something like X's Khoros -- a package that provides : a variety of image manipulation tools, like frequency filters, edge : detection, etc. Khoros has been ported to X-NeXT. I'm running it under Mouse-X. Should also run under comercial Xs. Available at ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de (only binaries, rest at the usual sites) Hope this helps Meinrad -- Meinrad Zeller Foehrenweg 1 D-37077 Goettingen Tel.: +49-551-300095
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: seungwoo@myria.cs.umn.edu (Seung-Woo Kim) Subject: MIDI under SoftPC? Message-ID: <seungwoo.751149267@myria> Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1993 20:34:27 GMT Does anybody know which MIDI interfaces work under SoftPC, if at all? I have MIDILink and Presto which is fine for what it does. Still there are many other useful softwares that don't run on NeXTstation. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Seung-Woo
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: alastair@farli.otago.ac.nz (Alastair Thomson) Subject: Re: Any NeXT OCR Experiences? Message-ID: <CF7s82.810@news.otago.ac.nz> Sender: usenet@news.otago.ac.nz (News stuff) Organization: University of Otago References: <2a1svg$f4@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1993 21:12:01 GMT In article <2a1svg$f4@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks) writes: > I'm interested in hearing anyone's experiences with > OCR work with Nextstep. What software is out there? How > does it compare with, for example, a fast Mac and Omnipage? > > Please describe experience, not sales pitches. Thanks. > > > Robert de Lucca > Johns Hopkins University We use ElectroWorX here, we use it to OCR pages and pages of knitting patterns. We love it for a couple of reasons: Firstly it is good, we have used OmniPage on a Quadra, and it leaves it for dead in accuracy, even without training. With training, we get around 90% accuracy including the detection of bold, italic, point-size etc. Secondly, ElectroWorX allows you to OCR in batch mode, set up a queue of TIFF files, and let it do it overnight. Finally, the fact that it runs as a client/server application. You have the server running on a machine, and you can the run the UI section from any other machine on the net. It uses a floating license server to make sure you don't use more copies than you are allowed to. Not a sales pitch, but it is the best OCR software I have seen, and at around US$1,300 it really is good value. Alastair -- Alastair Thomson, | Phone +64-3-479-8347 Chief Programmer, | Fax +64-3-479-8529 The Black Albatross Project, | University of Otago, | alastair@farli.otago.ac.nz Dunedin, New Zealand | NeXTmail Welcome
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: clarance@nshade.uah.ualberta.ca (Clarance Howatt) Subject: Re: "Pencil-Me-In" ---does anyone know about? -> major drawback! Message-ID: <1993Oct20.232009.25839@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada References: <1993Oct19.174629.4333@xexos.com> Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1993 23:20:09 GMT Don't quote me but I have been told that there WILL be a PMI API out soon. -- ============================================================ Clarance Howatt Programmer, Information Systems \\\ /// University of Alberta Hospitals \\\ /\ /// WMC 2C2.21, 8440 - 112th Street, \\\ //\\ /// Edmonton, Alberta \\\///\\\///
From: turnbull@datarev.datarev.COM (Steve Turnbull) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: BBS Software available for NeXT? Date: 20 Oct 1993 22:48:12 -0400 Organization: The Ohio State University Sender: daemon@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Message-ID: <9310210247.AA06003@datarev.datarev.com> Hello, I am looking for BBS software to run on a NeXT 040 cube and would like to know if anything is available. I need to setup a BBS in the near future and hate the thought of having to setup a PC based system. Thanks in advance Steve Turnbull turnbull@datarev.com NeXTMail Welcome
From: alevine@ucsd.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: talk: can't figure out network address Date: 21 Oct 1993 02:21:08 GMT Organization: The Avant-Garde of the Now, Ltd. Distribution: world Message-ID: <2a4rmkINNqeh@network.ucsd.edu> What causes the above message, and how can it be corrected? Any clues? -- Alexander Levine Department of Philosophy alevine@ucsd.edu 0302, UCSD NeXTMail fine La Jolla, CA 92093 ************************************************ Disclaimer: I am responsible for all opinions expressed by anyone at any time.
From: mycroft@colourbox.utexas.edu (Alex Currier) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: BBS Software available for NeXT? Date: 21 Oct 1993 04:37:12 GMT Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas Message-ID: <2a53lo$eso@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> References: <9310210247.AA06003@datarev.datarev.com> In article <9310210247.AA06003@datarev.datarev.com> turnbull@datarev.datarev.COM (Steve Turnbull) writes: > I am looking for BBS software to run on a NeXT 040 cube and would like to know > if anything is available. I need to setup a BBS in the near future and hate > the thought of having to setup a PC based system. This may not be the kind of answer you're looking for but you could always use the built in UNIX tools to do most of the things a BBS would do. UserManager, ftp, newsgroups, mail, security... all of that can be done easily on a NeXT. You could add some things like pine mail reader and rn to make things easier and if you're good you could do interesting things with shell scripts and whatnot to tie it all together into a BBS kind of thing. Administering it all might be kind of tough but it is possible to have most things keep extensive logs if you like. Please don't ask me how to do it though because I have no clue (though I would be interested in finding out what you come up with. -- ========================================================================= Alex Currier | I get no kick from champagne... mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu | mere alcohol doesn't thrill me at all NeXTmail capable! | but I get a kick out of UNIX. =========================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org (Thomas Engel) Subject: Any Basic sysadmin Tool up to now ? Message-ID: <CEyG6J.Aw@shinto.nbg.sub.org> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Sender: tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org (Thomas Engel) Organization: Molecule Modelling Lab. Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1993 20:13:30 GMT Hello! Well it s just an idea. But is there a simple admin Tool that has this aim: Managing those ever growing Files of UNIX-Logs etc.. I think it might be pretty easy an maybe I would try this one as some kind of programming experiece trip...if it is not already on the archives. - Organizing log-files in a tree-style browser (system,fax,news,uucp,etc) - Adding them by drag and drop - Always sen the size of the group and the files (like DarkForest) - Being able to read the contents in a simple textfield - Erase the contens without changing the permissions etc.pp - Being able to Erase all the file-data wiht one click - Ok sure only run as ROOT As far as I m concernd with NeXTSTEP it should be easy. Some Draging and drop and some browser programming with a text-object and unix-app-forking Could be a nice mini-example as well. I m kind of new to UNIX so i don t know realy what else an Admin Tool needs but this would be enought for what I (and maybe other not UNIXpeople) may find useful. There certainly is a way to that stuff with Workspace and some UNIX scripts or Tickle (linking the files to a hierarchin in the filesystem and that on but this App could make it easyier .. even if it does the same thing: running a UNIX script to erase the stuff, mapping the hierarchie to some place in /Library ...) I never had a PC/DOS virus but I do beleave there are some people that would be glad for such a tool (me included). Any comments ? Tom -- ____________________________________________________ (tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org) Thomas Engel Neptunstr. 9
From: paulej@vccnw03.its.rpi.edu (Jeffrey R Paules) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: SLIP with bootp support Date: 21 Oct 1993 05:53:58 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY. Distribution: world Message-ID: <2a585m$9dr@usenet.rpi.edu> I'm looking for a SLIP package with support for the bootp protocol that will run under NS 3.1 on black hardware. I am trying to connect to the net through my university and I need bootp support to get past our modem pool. I know that Marble's Teleconnect supports bootp, but they're not supporting Teleconnect on 3.1. I haven't installed 3.1 yet, so I can still opt for Teleconnect, but I'd rather not shell out my money on a product with no future. Can anybody give me help with other products or workarounds? Please send non-NeXT mail. I'll post a summary if I get much response.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) Subject: Re: Mailing List Software In-Reply-To: Aaron Herskowitz's message of 20 Oct 1993 01:34:01 GMT To: Aaron Herskowitz <aherskow@alleg.edu> Message-ID: <CEDMAN.93Oct20093838@capitalist.princeton.edu> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University References: <2a24i9$t4s@ftp.alleg.edu> Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1993 13:38:38 GMT In article <2a24i9$t4s@ftp.alleg.edu> Aaron Herskowitz <aherskow@alleg.edu> writes: I am looking for software to administer mailing lists. Although it will be ÿrun on a NeXT, it does not need to be NeXT specific. [ ... ] If anyone knows of any software that would perform the above (or something close), please post/e-mail me. There are several package which do what you want which should compile without great problems on the NeXT, among them ListServ and MajorDomo. Personally, I use procmail which gives myself and other users very advanced handling for incoming mail and complete mailing list management which I believe does everything you need. Be sure to get procmail 2.92 as older versions between 2.70 and 2.92 have problems compiling under NS 3.1. If you intend to use procmail in conjunction with Mail.app, you should also get the mailapp utilities 1.2 from nova.cc.purdue.edu or cs.orst.edu. Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: coconut@crash.cts.com (Brian Dear) Subject: Re: QUESTION: Big Ben sound for NS3.1? Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA Date: 21 Oct 93 01:53:59 PDT Message-ID: <1993Oct21.015359.14649@crash> References: <1993Oct18.171328.7843@crash> Brian Dear (coconut@crash.cts.com) wrote: : : I seem to recall that in the distant past someone mentioned a neat-oo : "Big Ben chimes" application for NeXT such that at 15 minutes past, 30 : past, 45 past, and on the hour, the traditional Big Ben bell sounds chimed : out of the NeXT's speaker (this is for a NeXTcube w/ MegaPixel display). : So I guess it would have to be a little app that sits in the background : and monitors the system clock. Anyone know if this exists, and if so, : where (i.e., anon ftp)? : : - bd : : * brian dear * coconut computing, inc. * brian@coconut.com * : Several folks NeXTmailed me the code to chimes.c written by Scott Hess. I compiled the code and it compiled fine. HOWEVER, upon rying to run the program, I get the following output: playscore reading /tmp/.bong010177.score... ...done Can't open DSP. I've tried everything. This is on a NeXTcube with 24MB RAM, running NS3.1. playscore is installed from NS2.1. Anyone know what's wrong? I can't find any processes messing around with the DSP, so I don't know why I am getting that error message. -- bd
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: chris@sartre.ads.com (Chris Smith) Subject: AppleTalk for NeXTSTEP 3.1 Message-ID: <1993Oct21.124940.9852@ads.com> Sender: usenet@ads.com (USENET News) Organization: Advanced Decision Systems, Mtn. View, CA (415) 960-7300 Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1993 12:49:40 GMT We are currently looking for a stable implementation of AppleTalk suitable for use with NeXTSTEP 3.1. We have tried the implementation NeXT provided with version 3.0, but it wasn't very stable, and system crashes weren't uncommon. According to the documentation we have for it, it's not being supported. Are there any third-party commercial implementations of AppleTalk for the NeXT? If so, any information -- functionality of product, name & phone number of company, etc. -- would be greatly appreciated! ---------------------------------------------------- Christopher A. Smith Consultant, Booz-Allen & Hamilton Inc. Internet: chris@sartre.ads.com *** These views DO NOT represent those of Booz-Allen & Hamilton ***
From: brunkhorst@mayo.edu (Geoff Brunkhorst) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: AppleTalk for NeXTSTEP 3.1 Date: 21 Oct 1993 14:31:55 GMT Organization: Mayo Foundation Distribution: world Message-ID: <2a66gr$iv7@fermat.mayo.edu> References: <1993Oct21.124940.9852@ads.com> In article <1993Oct21.124940.9852@ads.com> chris@sartre.ads.com (Chris Smith) writes: > We are currently looking for a stable implementation of AppleTalk suitable > for use with NeXTSTEP 3.1. We have tried the implementation NeXT provided > with version 3.0, but it wasn't very stable, and system crashes weren't > uncommon. According to the documentation we have for it, it's not being > supported. > > Are there any third-party commercial implementations of AppleTalk for the > NeXT? If so, any information -- functionality of product, name & phone > number of company, etc. -- would be greatly appreciated! we have had negative results using the IPT partner package from IPT. We are currently using KA_share, KA_atalk, and KA_spool from Helios software. It runs on a Sun and provides bidirectional file service from any NFS server/client to any Mac client/server and bidirectional printing. I think it will also run on HP. Sorry, I don't have the Helios name now, but email me if you want the info... I'll beat it out of our networking people;-) As a testimonial, I am using the 3.1beta AppleTalk client for NeXT (oops, I guess I'll have to kill you now;-), and get about 80% the speed accessing NFS data via Appletalk as I do accessing it via NFS. Macs are about the same I understand. We bought a Sun IPC and a GB of disk (for print spooling), and this allows access to any NFS-exported partition on the net, and any Appleshare volume on the net. It does require kernal mods to solaris 1.1, but is very stable (Since installation, we have not had a loss of service event on the box). email if you want the helios info. - Geoff ----------------------------------------------------------------- Geoffrey Brunkhorst brunkhorst@Mayo.edu Research Computing Facility, Guggenheim 10 (507) 284-1805 Mayo Foundation, Rochester MN, 55905, USA fax (507) 284-5231
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: brian@cadaver.acm.ndsu.NoDak.edu (Brian) Subject: Re: QUESTION: Big Ben sound for NS3.1? Sender: usenet@ns1.nodak.edu (Usenet login) Message-ID: <CF974v.pHr@ns1.nodak.edu> Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1993 15:31:43 GMT References: <1993Oct18.171328.7843@crash> <1993Oct21.015359.14649@crash> Organization: University of Southern North Dakota, Hoople In article <1993Oct21.015359.14649@crash> coconut@crash.cts.com (Brian Dear) writes: >I compiled the code and it compiled fine. HOWEVER, upon rying >to run the program, I get the following output: > > playscore reading /tmp/.bong010177.score... > ...done > Can't open DSP. > >I've tried everything. This is on a NeXTcube with 24MB RAM, >running NS3.1. playscore is installed from NS2.1. I have playscore from NS3.1 since I did a brand new install on my NeXTstation. I cannot play any score files. Does anybody have a clue about the problem? -- Brian Glaeske glaeske@plains.NoDak.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Men Rule. Rap Sucks. Eat Fatty Food." The PIPC, Outland
From: Roland Telfeyan <roland@gomidas.mi.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: SQL servers -- Sybase ? Date: 21 Oct 1993 16:52:28 GMT Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept. Distribution: world Message-ID: <2a6eoc$tn@zip.eecs.umich.edu> Is anybody doing anything with Sybase? Is it still alive on the NeXT? I am developing a client-server DB app and I need an SQL server. I'm using the 4.x version of Sybase that came with my 2.0 upgrade and it works, but the documentation is messed up, and the Administrator app is messed up. Anybody have any suggestions on SQL servers? Thanks, Roland --------------------------------------------------------------- Roland Telfeyan Internet: roland@gomidas.mi.org 1697 Broadway, Suite 104 Phone: +1 313 761 9590 Ann Arbor, MI 48105-1865 Fax: +1 313 761 9890 ---------------------------------------------------------------
From: brunkhorst@mayo.edu (Geoff Brunkhorst) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: AppleTalk for NeXTSTEP 3.1 Date: 21 Oct 1993 17:24:06 GMT Organization: Mayo Foundation Distribution: world Message-ID: <2a6gjm$m1l@fermat.mayo.edu> References: <2a66gr$iv7@fermat.mayo.edu> In article <2a66gr$iv7@fermat.mayo.edu> brunkhorst@mayo.edu I wrote: > In article <1993Oct21.124940.9852@ads.com> chris@sartre.ads.com (Chris Smith) > writes: > >[...] > > Are there any third-party commercial implementations of AppleTalk for the > > NeXT? If so, any information -- functionality of product, name & phone > > number of company, etc. -- would be greatly appreciated! > > we have had negative results using the IPT partner package from IPT. > > We are currently using KA_share, KA_atalk, and KA_spool from Helios > software. It runs on a Sun [...] > >[...] > > email if you want the helios info. Wrong. Yes, I am on drugs today (anti-histamines). Xinet makes the Kseries software, not Helios. Helios was another nolo contendre in our Appleshare saga Sorry for the confusion... -- - Geoff ----------------------------------------------------------------- Geoffrey Brunkhorst brunkhorst@Mayo.edu Research Computing Facility, Guggenheim 10 (507) 284-1805 Mayo Foundation, Rochester MN, 55905, USA fax (507) 284-5231
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: BBS Software available for NeXT? Date: 21 Oct 1993 10:04:56 +0100 Organization: me organized? That's a joke! Message-ID: <2a5jbo$oi@steffi.demon.co.uk> References: <9310210247.AA06003@datarev.datarev.com> turnbull@datarev.datarev.COM (Steve Turnbull) wrote >I am looking for BBS software to run on a NeXT 040 cube and would like to know There's is an FAQ posted in comp.unix.questions detailing all the publically available Vanilla Unix BBS systems. try ftp pit-manager.mit.edu:pub/usenet/comp.unix.questions
From: Christopher_Lane@Med.Stanford.EDU Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: (Doubly) MAB AKCL? Date: 21 Oct 1993 18:53:08 GMT Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <2a6lqk$1le@morrow.stanford.edu> Does anyone have, or is working on, a doubly MAB version of AKCL for NeXTSTEP 3.1? We'd like to have a version that runs 'fat' and is able to compile 'fat' and load 'fat' so that we don't have to worry about which hardware we're on when compiling or loading lisp files. (It looks like the 2.0 NeXTSTEP version of AKCL would need to be updated to know about Mach-O files in MAB format and other fixes.) Thanks for any information, - Christopher
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: klett@sunrayce.solar.umn.edu (James P. Klett) Subject: NeXTStep irc??? Message-ID: <CF9In3.G9z@news.cis.umn.edu> Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1993 19:37:39 GMT Is there a NeXTStep irc that utilizes Slip or will there be on soon??? -- /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ | | | Programmer James P. Klett | | klett@sunrayce.solar.umn.edu | | | \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: rm@califhistsoc.org (Robert MacKimmie) Subject: OCR/ICR Good Experiences!! Message-ID: <CF87zs.9Ep@califhistsoc.org> Keywords: OCR/ICR Good Experiences!! Sender: rm@califhistsoc.org (one) Organization: California Historical Society - Bringing the 19th Century, kicking and screaming, into the 21st! 415 567-1848 or fax 415 567-2394. Distribution: comp.sys.next.software Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1993 02:52:39 GMT From the post: >>>Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software >>>Subject: Any NeXT OCR Experiences? >>>Date: 19 Oct 1993 23:24:32 GMT >>>Organization: University of Maryland, College Park >>> >>>I'm interested in hearing anyone's experiences with >>>OCR work with Nextstep. What software is out there? How >>>does it compare with, for example, a fast Mac and Omnipage? >>> >>>Please describe experience, not sales pitches. Thanks. >>>Robert de Lucca >>>Johns Hopkins University ElectroWorX, the Xerox technology bump to NeXTSTEP by Insight Software in Portland is EXCELLENT! I was fortunate to be a beta tester and can say it has made life wonderful. It is not perfect and there are some things that just don't seem within the gameplan, like underlined material. However, it is very sound and robust, far and away beyond comparison to other products like...It is more expensive, and if you do serious OCR work, you will need a serious scanner with a serious price tag. Through the beta period, I used an HSD with a sheetfeeder. Though great for flatbed scanning, it was painfully slow AND if the sheetfeeder jammed, there was no hardware signal to ease the system pain---the whole network went down. Back to an isolated machine off the network? For me, not so easy as the license is tied to a specific IP address. It wasn't rocket science-so how did I solve my heartache???? Got the Fujitsu high speed document scanner. Beautiful! Serious $$$, but worth it if you use it. Life is great. I am productive. A product like ElectroWorX with a great hardware tool like the Fujitsu scanner really makes the NeXT environment shine like the lightyears ahead user environment that it is. Praise, gratitude and feeling of well-being. If all of life was as wonderful. As a final testimony, late one night I effortlessly ran several project documents through the paces and was so overwhelmed with glee and delight that I e-mailed a thankful note of praise to Ted and the gang at Insight. He responded that seldom did people write to express "good" things. I responded with a note of "too much work, too little money" and he could then sleep at night, I suppose. So there you are: SUCCESS, SUCCESS. ANOTHER REASON WHY NEXTSTEP IS THE GREATEST USER ENVIRONMENT ON THE PLANET!!!! IT JUST WORKS, AND HOW! No affiliation, etc.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: rm@califhistsoc.org (Robert MacKimmie) Subject: OPINIONS SOUGHT: Parabase Message-ID: <CF88G3.9GF@califhistsoc.org> Keywords: OPINIONS SOUGHT: Parabase Sender: rm@califhistsoc.org (one) Organization: California Historical Society - Bringing the 19th Century, kicking and screaming, into the 21st! 415 567-1848 or fax 415 567-2394. Distribution: comp.sys.next.software Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1993 03:02:27 GMT So far, Parabase seems to be an EZ and powerful front end for Sybase. I haven't spent serious time with it yet because I am waiting for a version with tab delimited import. (Brad, Robert????) Most of my work deals with imported text data sets (with many commas and quotes), so getting the files bumped over has been like making aardvarks jump through fiery hoops, and lots of them.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: coconut@crash.cts.com (Brian Dear) Subject: SUMMARY: Opinions Found on PARABASE Organization: Coconut Computing, Inc., La Jolla, CA Date: 21 Oct 93 15:13:00 PDT Message-ID: <1993Oct21.151300.19176@crash> Dear friends, I got a lot of responses regarding my "OPINIONS SOUGHT: Parabase" inquiry. Too many messages to reply to individually, I'm afraid. So I'm posting this summary to the dozens of folks who asked me to summarize my findings. Bottom line? I heard nothing but positive comments from real users who have bought and installed the product. The consensus seems to be that the GUPTA SQLBase is better than SYBASE. I was glad to hear this because our company has been considering buying the $2995 "Workgroup" package deal from PARABASE. The only complaints I got were of the following nature: "as with any high-level tool, every now and then you wish it was more flexible (i.e., programmable)" and a couple of complaints about being tedious to arrange format/fonts, etc. But as far as I am concerned, I am more interested in quickly cranking out some basic database applications for our NeXTSTEP network that don't force me to hire a database contract programmer. Everyone who uses the product seemed to praise its "programmerless" qualities and seems to put up with a few design flaws here and there. More important, really, than a committment to PARABASE for us is a committment to NeXTSTEP. We've enjoyed and benefitted from using it in our office environment for a few years. But with all the topsy-turvy stuff going on in 1993, we were beginning to question whether it was safe (or better yet, sane!) to stick with an OS that only 50,000 people use. The feedback we've gotten regarding PARABASE, plus the hope for products like PAGES, give us enough confidence to want to stick in there with NeXTSTEP for another round. So... bottom line -- we're ordering it. I hope others do too -- I like it when companies we buy from are getting lots of orders. That creates warm and fuzzy feelings, rather than RightBrain/ AppSoft anxieties :-). So, PARABASE, here we come! - bd brian dear / coconut computing, inc / brian@coconut.com
From: bkowal@aludra.usc.edu (Brian A. Kowal) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Perl 4.036 Date: 21 Oct 1993 15:59:09 -0700 Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA Sender: bkowal@aludra.usc.edu Message-ID: <2a747t$7kv@aludra.usc.edu> I would like to compile Perl 4.036 on my NeXT (Black Hardware). Has anyone already done this? If so, could you please either email me or post the steps that you took to get it to work. Thanks in Advance Brian A. Kowal UCS Unix Tech Support kowal@usc.edu
From: rruth@studio.disney.com (Richard Ruth) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Perl - make problem (68040) Date: 21 Oct 1993 22:56:34 GMT Organization: The Walt Disney Company Message-ID: <2a7433$h43@angmar.sat.disney.com> I am attempting to get Perl running on a NeXT Station under NEXTSTEP 3.1. While running "make" there were a few warnings about unknown variables, but no fatal errors. Below is part of the output from "make test" runner> make test cd t && chmod +x TEST */*.t cd t && (rm -f perl; ln -s ../perl perl) && ./perl TEST </dev/tty base/cond......ok .. comp/cmdopt....ok comp/cpp.......:10: unterminated string or character constant ok comp/decl......ok .. op/goto........ok op/groups......group routines not implemented at ./op/groups.t line 11. FAILED on test 1 op/index.......ok .. Failed 1 test. *** Exit 2 (ignored) Any ideas on what changes are needed to have perl work? Thanks Richard rruth
From: robin@fisher.bio.uci.edu (Robin Bush) Subject: Opinion Neede: Appsoft Image & TIFFany Message-ID: <2CC7131F.16745@news.service.uci.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Date: 21 Oct 93 22:54:23 GMT I need a raster based paint program to use on the NeXT. I see I can get AppSoft Image pretty cheap right now. Does anyone use it? Do you like it? Any criticisms? Is it buggy? The only other paint program I have much experience with is SuperPaint for the Mac, which I liked quite a bit. Anybody know how the two compare? Also, benchMark Developments, Inc. has a TIFFany upgrade offer available to Appsoft Image owners. Has any used this program? What does it do that Appsoft Image can't? Thanks, ---------------------------------------------------------- Robin
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXT Comm Programs?!? Message-ID: <1993Oct20.223640.1@vax1.umkc.edu> From: dbarlow@vax1.umkc.edu Date: 20 Oct 93 22:36:40 CST Organization: University of Missouri - Kansas City I am looking for a communication program that fully supports Kermit and VT terminal emulation. Is there an FTP site that has such programs? Can anyone recommend a commercial package? Thanks Dustin Barlow
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: flo@pezzi.freiburg.sub.org (Florian Wolpert) Subject: Re: Problems with StarShipView Backspace Mod Message-ID: <CF8v0G.14K@pezzi.freiburg.sub.org> Organization: Flo & Co, a FreiNet site References: <29sqdu$5nh@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <CF42pq.5wH@news.otago.ac.nz> <29ve0r$8q4@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1993 11:09:51 GMT Joseph W Reiss (jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu) wrote: : Gideon@otago.ac.nz (Gideon King) wrote... : >! >I cannot get the StarShipView Backspace Module to : >! >work on this NSTC. : >! : >! Anybody who can tip us off as to what (if anything) we can do to fix : >! this, PLEASE POST! : > : >I grabbed it just the other day, and shoved it in the backspace app : >wrapper and it works fine from there. : ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGH! : .... : Maybe it's just me (wouldn't be the first time). Is anyone else : having the same bad luck that I am? Yes, me too :-( - Flo.
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: FYI: Canon's word processor, WritingDesk.app Date: 22 Oct 1993 05:22:51 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <2a7qnb$t45@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <1993Oct14.155627.1019@tkymail.sps.mot.com> In article <1993Oct14.155627.1019@tkymail.sps.mot.com> mshaler@tdocad.sps.mot.com (Michael Shaler) writes: > I recently attended Canon's NeXTSTEP Technology Forum here in Tokyo, > where Canon announced NSFIP, etc. They will ship 3.1J for beige > hardware mid-October and 3.2J for black and beige by year's end. Hmm. Will these still be expensive (or impossible...) to get anywhere outside of Japan? > One of the most notable items on the list is Canon's own word > processing app, WritingDesk.app, which is really pretty good. > (They are bundling a demo with each copy of NeXTSTEP/J). It looks > a lot like WriteNow, basically. I don't know what kind of file > format they are using, but they support RTF, object links, Japanese > text-handling features like boten, mesh, ruby, and tables (!). > In fact, the tables module is the best part of the app and deserves > a lot of praise for a VERY easy-to-use interface. This sound interesting too. Did they say anything about the availability of WritingDesk worldwide? > Unfortunately, > Canon left out the spell check and mail merge features that some > might expect in a full-fledged word processor. Can you plug in spell-checkers from other sources? The HSD ones, for instance? -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: ron@jaws.nosc.mil (Ron Broersma) Subject: Re: Mail Preprocessor that will correct UUNECODED files to NeXTMail Message-ID: <1993Oct22.051040.4153@nosc.mil> Sender: usenet@nosc.mil (Network News) Organization: NCCOSC RDT&E Division, San Diego, CA References: <1993Oct14.182027.553@weston.com> Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1993 05:10:40 GMT Wes Spears writes: > I am curious to know if it has been done, or if anyone has any > suggestions. I will be receiving a great deal of mail in the future from > sites and the mail will contain uuencoded files. I would love for that > file to come into Mail.app as NeXTMail, so this would be a pain, but the > mail should be uudecoded to the file, then, I think, tarred, compressed, > then uuencoded and placed back with the original headers. Then passed to > NeXT mail which would undo all that. Yes, it has been done. I wrote a replacement for Mail.app/MailFetch that makes an initial pass over the spool file to determine if there are any chunks of uuencoded stuff in the body of any of the messages. It then uudecodes it and re-issues the message in NeXTmail format so that the user sees what looks like normal NeXTmail with an attachment. It really makes life easier for people that receive a lot of mail with uuencoded attachments from other mail systems, like cc:Mail. --Ron ron@nosc.mil
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: ron@jaws.nosc.mil (Ron Broersma) Subject: mosaic client for NeXTSTEP? Message-ID: <1993Oct22.051700.4239@nosc.mil> Sender: usenet@nosc.mil (Network News) Organization: NCCOSC RDT&E Division, San Diego, CA Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1993 05:17:00 GMT Has anyone done a NeXT client for mosaic? There are clients for Windoze, Mac, and X but not a native NeXT App. We have to run the xmosaic for NeXT under co-Xist or other X package but a native NeXT app would be so much nicer. If you haven't seen mosaic, you should check it out. It is about the hottest Internet browsing tool that's out there at the moment. --Ron ron@nosc.mil
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Problems with StarShipView Backspace Mod Date: 22 Oct 1993 06:50:34 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL USA Message-ID: <2a7vrq$d4r@news.acns.nwu.edu> References: <29sqdu$5nh@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <CF42pq.5wH@news.otago.ac.nz> <29ve0r$8q4@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <CF8v0G.14K@pezzi.freiburg.sub.org> In article <CF8v0G.14K@pezzi.freiburg.sub.org>, Florian Wolpert <flo@pezzi.freiburg.sub.org> wrote: >Joseph W Reiss (jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu) wrote: >: Gideon@otago.ac.nz (Gideon King) wrote... >: >! >I cannot get the StarShipView Backspace Module to >: >! >work on this NSTC. >: >! >: >! Anybody who can tip us off as to what (if anything) we can do to fix >: >! this, PLEASE POST! >: > >: >I grabbed it just the other day, and shoved it in the backspace app >: >wrapper and it works fine from there. > >: ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGH! > >: .... >: Maybe it's just me (wouldn't be the first time). Is anyone else >: having the same bad luck that I am? >Yes, me too :-( > I had trouble also until I downloaded a copy from cs.orst.edu. The files there seem to work okay. The other common site has bad files I think. -- Jerry S. Weiss j-weiss@nwu.edu Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois %SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software From: mross@antigone.com Subject: Re: Mailing List Software Message-ID: <1993Oct22.025852.25240@antigone.com> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco References: <2a24i9$t4s@ftp.alleg.edu> Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1993 02:58:52 GMT Aaron Herskowitz (aherskow@alleg.edu) wrote: : I am looking for software to administer mailing lists. Although it will be : ÿrun on a NeXT, it does not need to be NeXT specific. UNIX ListProc is available from cs.bu.edu in /pub/listserv (I think). It is quite complex and full-featured. I used to run NEXT-L on it. I had problems compiling the latest version, and gave up due to lack of time, but others seem to have done it successfully on the NeXT, so fear not! -- Michael Ross Antigone Press, San Francisco, California e-mail: mross@antigone.com FAX: +1 415 431 3650
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Perl 4.036 Date: 22 Oct 1993 10:20:11 +0100 Organization: me organized? That's a joke! Message-ID: <2a88kb$i2@steffi.demon.co.uk> References: <2a747t$7kv@aludra.usc.edu> bkowal@aludra.usc.edu (Brian A. Kowal) wrote > >I would like to compile Perl 4.036 on my NeXT (Black Hardware). Has >anyone already done this? If so, could you please either email me or >post the steps that you took to get it to work. > >Thanks in Advance > >Brian A. Kowal >UCS Unix Tech Support kowal@usc.edu Folks, how about we form some kinda of FAQ for common unix utilities? Anyway, Perl requires some fidgiting before it will work under NeXSTEP. Note I say work and not compile. You must run make tests in perl and it should not fail any tests. Owning to NeXT's include tree perl's Configure will not correctly autoconfig properly since it looks at the wrong paths and finds files that although they exist they shouldn't be configured. ie. dirent.h I hacked Configure so that it did things right. You should just be able to use this config.sh and just accept the defaults and when it asks "old was blablabla do you wish to keep old value say yes" This IMHO, is probably the easiest way to install perl. Let me know how you go. This is tested for 3.1 black. Here is a config.sh that will properly configure perl. #!/bin/sh # config.sh # This file was produced by running the Configure script. d_eunice='undef' define='define' eunicefix=':' loclist=' cat cp echo expr grep mkdir mv rm sed sort tr uniq ' expr='/bin/expr' sed='/bin/sed' echo='/bin/echo' cat='/bin/cat' rm='/bin/rm' mv='/bin/mv' cp='/bin/cp' tail='' tr='/usr/bin/tr' mkdir='/bin/mkdir' sort='/usr/bin/sort' uniq='/usr/bin/uniq' grep='/bin/grep' trylist=' Mcc bison cpp csh egrep line nroff perl test uname yacc ' test='test' inews='' egrep='/usr/bin/egrep' more='' pg='' Mcc='Mcc' vi='' mailx='' mail='' cpp='/lib/cpp' perl='/usr/local/bin/perl' emacs='' ls='' rmail='' sendmail='' shar='' smail='' tbl='' troff='' nroff='/usr/bin/nroff' uname='uname' uuname='' line='line' chgrp='' chmod='' lint='' sleep='' pr='' tar='' ln='' lpr='' lp='' touch='' make='' date='' csh='/bin/csh' bash='' ksh='' lex='' flex='' bison='bison' Log='$Log' Header='$Header' Id='$Id' lastuname='Configure: uname: not found' alignbytes='2' bin='/usr/local/bin' installbin='/usr/local/bin' byteorder='4321' contains='grep' cppstdin='cc -E' cppminus='-' d_bcmp='define' d_bcopy='define' d_safebcpy='define' d_bzero='define' d_castneg='define' castflags='0' d_charsprf='undef' d_chsize='undef' d_crypt='define' cryptlib='' d_csh='define' d_dosuid='undef' d_dup2='define' d_fchmod='define' d_fchown='define' d_fcntl='define' d_flexfnam='define' d_flock='define' d_getgrps='define' d_gethent='define' d_getpgrp='define' d_getpgrp2='undef' d_getprior='define' d_htonl='define' d_index='undef' d_isascii='undef' d_killpg='define' d_lstat='define' d_memcmp='define' d_memcpy='define' d_safemcpy='undef' d_memmove='define' d_memset='define' d_mkdir='define' d_msg='undef' d_msgctl='undef' d_msgget='undef' d_msgrcv='undef' d_msgsnd='undef' d_ndbm='define' d_odbm='define' d_open3='define' d_readdir='define' d_rename='define' d_rewindir='undef' d_rmdir='define' d_seekdir='define' d_select='define' d_sem='undef' d_semctl='undef' d_semget='undef' d_semop='undef' d_setegid='define' d_seteuid='define' d_setpgrp='define' d_setpgrp2='undef' d_setprior='define' d_setregid='define' d_setresgid='undef' d_setreuid='define' d_setresuid='undef' d_setrgid='define' d_setruid='define' d_shm='undef' d_shmat='undef' d_voidshmat='undef' d_shmctl='undef' d_shmdt='undef' d_shmget='undef' d_socket='define' d_sockpair='define' d_oldsock='undef' socketlib='' d_statblks='define' d_stdstdio='define' d_strctcpy='define' d_strerror='define' d_symlink='define' d_syscall='define' d_telldir='define' d_truncate='define' d_vfork='define' d_voidsig='define' d_tosignal='int' d_volatile='define' d_vprintf='define' d_charvspr='undef' d_wait4='define' d_waitpid='undef' gidtype='gid_t' groupstype='int' i_fcntl='undef' i_gdbm='undef' i_grp='define' i_niin='define' i_sysin='undef' i_pwd='define' d_pwquota='define' d_pwage='undef' d_pwchange='undef' d_pwclass='undef' d_pwexpire='undef' d_pwcomment='define' i_sys_file='define' i_sysioctl='define' i_time='undef' i_sys_time='define' i_sys_select='undef' d_systimekernel='undef' i_utime='undef' i_varargs='define' i_vfork='undef' /* hmmm */ intsize='4' libc='/lib/libsys_s.a' nm_opts='' libndir='' i_my_dir='undef' i_ndir='undef' i_sys_ndir='undef' i_dirent='undef' i_sys_dir='define' d_dirnamlen='undef' ndirc='' ndiro='' mallocsrc='' mallocobj='' d_mymalloc='undef' mallocptrtype='void' mansrc='/usr/local/man/mann' manext='n' models='none' split='' small='' medium='' large='' huge='' optimize='-O' ccflags=' -I/usr/include' cppflags=' -I/usr/include' ldflags='' cc='cc' nativegcc='define' libs='-ldbm -lsys_s' n='-n' c='' package='perl' randbits='31' scriptdir='/usr/local/bin' installscr='/usr/local/bin' sig_name='ZERO HUP INT QUIT ILL TRAP ABRT EMT FPE KILL BUS SEGV SYS PIPE ALRM TERM URG STOP TSTP CONT CHLD TTIN TTOU IO XCPU XFSZ VTALRM PROF WINCH LOST USR1 USR2' spitshell='cat' shsharp='true' sharpbang='#!' startsh='#!/bin/sh' stdchar='char' uidtype='uid_t' usrinclude='/usr/include/bsd' inclPath='' void='' voidhave='7' voidwant='7' w_localtim='1' w_s_timevl='1' w_s_tm='1' yacc='/usr/bin/yacc' lib='' privlib='/usr/local/lib/perl' installprivlib='/usr/local/lib/perl' PATCHLEVEL=36 CONFIG=true libswanted='dbm sys_s' usemymalloc='n'
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software From: jladwig@soils.umn.edu (John Ladwig) Subject: Re: Mailing List Software Message-ID: <jladwig.751291680@saturn> Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: UMN Soils GIS Lab References: <2a24i9$t4s@ftp.alleg.edu> <1993Oct22.025852.25240@antigone.com> Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1993 12:08:00 GMT In <1993Oct22.025852.25240@antigone.com> mross@antigone.com writes: >Aaron Herskowitz (aherskow@alleg.edu) wrote: >: I am looking for software to administer mailing lists. Although it will be >: ÿrun on a NeXT, it does not need to be NeXT specific. >UNIX ListProc is available from cs.bu.edu in /pub/listserv (I think). >It is quite complex and full-featured. I used to run NEXT-L on it. >I had problems compiling the latest version, and gave up due to lack >of time, but others seem to have done it successfully on the NeXT, so >fear not! Unix ListProc (note new name please), is running *extremely* well for me on NeXTSTEP 2.1, and I have reports that it runs well on 3.0, but I'm not sure about 3.1. I'm currently delivering 20-30 messages a day to almost 400 subscribers scattered all over the planet, several dozen of whom are receiving a user-selectable digested version of the mailing list traffic. It also make nice gopher-izable message archives retrievable via FTP or email as well. A *very* satisfied LISTPROC user. Now, if only my '030 cube would go faster without any monetary inputs... -jml There is a mailing list at unix-listproc@stormking.com, subscribe to: listproc@stormking.com with message body subscribe unix-listproc Your Realname_not_address eg subscribe unix-listproc John Ladwig -- UMN Department of Soil Science; St. Paul, MN Internet: john.ladwig@soils.umn.edu Fidonet: John Ladwig 1:282/341 (home) John.Ladwig@p19.f341.n282.z1.tdkt.kksys.com GAS: d* -p+ c++ l++ m+ s g+ w++ t r- x+
From: wscomalo@bs.win.tue.nl (Malo Hautus) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mail Preprocessor that will correct UUNECODED files to NeXTMail Date: 22 Oct 1993 14:38:12 GMT Organization: Eindhoven University of Technology, The Netherlands Distribution: world Message-ID: <2a8r8k$ebn@svin01.win.tue.nl> References: <1993Oct22.051040.4153@nosc.mil> In article <1993Oct22.051040.4153@nosc.mil> ron@jaws.nosc.mil (Ron Broersma) writes: > Yes, it has been done. I wrote a replacement for Mail.app/MailFetch that > makes an initial pass over the spool file to determine if there are any > chunks of uuencoded stuff in the body of any of the messages. It then > uudecodes it and re-issues the message in NeXTmail format so that the user > sees what looks like normal NeXTmail with an attachment. It really makes > life easier for people that receive a lot of mail with uuencoded > attachments from other mail systems, like cc:Mail. This sounds interesting. Is it available? __________________________________________________ Malo Hautus Department of Mathematics and Computer Science Eindhoven University of Technology P.O. Box 513 5600 MB Eindhoven | Tel. +31 40 472628 | NeXT mail wscomalo@win.tue.nl
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: cmumford@iat.holonet.net (Chris Mumford) Subject: Anything but IComm???? Message-ID: <CFAzrD.819@iat.holonet.net> Organization: HoloNet National Internet Access System: 510-704-1058/modem Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1993 14:47:35 GMT
From: dhess@net.tamu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: NEXTSTEP upgrade goofiness... Date: 22 Oct 1993 16:02:27 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX Distribution: world Message-ID: <2a906j$f5s@TAMUTS.TAMU.EDU> Ok, can anyone shed light on this? My university computer store carries NEXTSTEP but only the Intel version. They do not carry it for NeXT Computers at all and can't order upgrades for them (so they say). Apparently, NeXT or the distributor will not let them order it for NeXT Computers. Then I call the upgrade center in Buffalo and they say that there is no academic pricing on the upgrade at this time. Academic must pay $195 + $495 to upgrade to 3.1. I thought academic pricing for the entire thing was $249. What the hell is going on? Did I wait too long and now am doomed to this kind of pricing? Does $249 only apply to the Intel version? Why can't I order the NeXT Computer version from my campus store? Is this just an oversight that will be corrected soon? Confused and confounded, Dave -- David K. Hess Network Analyst David-Hess@tamu.edu Computing and Information Services - Network Group (409) 845-0372 (work) Texas A&M University
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: magnus@fisher.Stanford.EDU (Magnus Nordborg) Subject: Re: Perl 4.036 Message-ID: <1993Oct22.162130.11421@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: Stanford University References: <2a88kb$i2@steffi.demon.co.uk> Date: Fri, 22 Oct 93 16:21:30 GMT In article <2a88kb$i2@steffi.demon.co.uk> robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) writes: > Folks, how about we form some kinda of FAQ for common unix > utilities? I agree, but think it is important to remember that the best thing is if those capable of making changes (not just uninformed hacks) inform the authors so as to make the next release work (this process would of course be facilitated if NeXT did not change the include files with each release). Nonetheless, it would be very helpful to have a list of programs that a) compiles without any problems, b) compiles with modifications, and c) shouldn't even be attempted. -- Magnus Nordborg magnus@fisher.stanford.edu (NeXT mail preferred) Department of Biological Sciences Stanford University Stanford, CA 94305-5020 +1 (415) 723-4952 (office)
From: statman@stat.ufl.edu (Charles D. Kincaid) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Xnext loses mouse -- help please? Date: 22 Oct 1993 16:49:56 GMT Organization: University of Florida Distribution: world Message-ID: <2a92vkINNrs4@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu> Hello, I downloaded Xfe.app and the X11R5 user stuff off of the archives a couple of weeks ago. I am pretty sure that I installed it correctly (on my NeXTstation running NS3.1), but I'm having a weird and serious problem. When I start it up the first time everything is fine. However, if I switch back to NeXTSTEP and then back to X, I lose my cursor. A couple of times I can get it back, but most of the time not. I remember a few people having this problem in the earlier version. I even had this problem once or twice with X11R4 and NS2.1, but switching back and forth fixed it. However, it's not helping this time. Does anyone have any ideas or suggestions? All help is greatly appreciated -- Sincerely, charles d. kincaid -------------------------------------------------------------------- Dept. of Statistics 'Damn fine coffee...and hot, too!' Univ. of Florida Pres: G-ville NeXT Users Group
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: rsbrown@trane.nosc.mil (Robert S. Brown) Subject: Re: Problems with StarShipView Backspace Mod Message-ID: <1993Oct22.164435.9433@nosc.mil> Sender: usenet@nosc.mil (Network News) Organization: NCCOSC RDT&E Division, San Diego, CA References: <1993Oct20.140255.1751@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1993 16:44:35 GMT The StarShipView modules uses loadable bundles. Unfortunately a bug in NextStep caused a problem when you tried to load bundles from different compiled versions. The secret is to make sure that the BackSpace app that you are running is compiled under the same version of NextStep as the StarShipView module. I believe the fat version is for 3.1 and the non fat is for 3.0 but I'm not sure. The compiled module should be put in ~/Library/BackSpaceViews If anyone is still having trouble, send email to rsbrown@nosc.mil. I should be able to help you get it going since I wrote it ;-) The files on sonata.cc.purdue.edu are corrupted. I tried a couple times to resend without success. Does anyone know how to remove the files? I'll send the request to the management. The files that are good are at cs.orst.edu. good luck!! --RS
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jon@mercury.mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon Haveman) Subject: Re: Mail Preprocessor that will correct UUNECODED files to NeXTMail Message-ID: <CFB5un.9s6@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> Sender: news@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (USENET News) Organization: Purdue University References: <2a8r8k$ebn@svin01.win.tue.nl> Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1993 16:59:10 GMT In article <2a8r8k$ebn@svin01.win.tue.nl> wscomalo@bs.win.tue.nl (Malo Hautus) writes: > In article <1993Oct22.051040.4153@nosc.mil> ron@jaws.nosc.mil (Ron > Broersma) writes: > > > Yes, it has been done. I wrote a replacement for Mail.app/MailFetch > that > > makes an initial pass over the spool file to determine if there are any > > chunks of uuencoded stuff in the body of any of the messages. It then > > uudecodes it and re-issues the message in NeXTmail format so that the > user > > sees what looks like normal NeXTmail with an attachment. It really > makes > > life easier for people that receive a lot of mail with uuencoded > > attachments from other mail systems, like cc:Mail. > > This sounds interesting. Is it available? Please say that it is - PLEASE. -- Jon Haveman Asst. Prof. of Economics ,_~o jon@mgmt.purdue.edu Krannert School of Mgmt _-\_<, (317) 494-6156 (Office) Purdue University (*)/'(*) (317) 494-9658 (Fax) W. Lafayette, IN 47907-1310 (317) 497-3527 (Home)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) Subject: WordPerfect Message-ID: <1993Oct22.042306.220@weston.com> Sender: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1993 04:23:06 GMT Is WordPerfect for Intel shipping? Thanks Wes Spears -- Wes Spears <-------> jspears@weston.com (NeXTMail Welcome) The Weston Group (UUCP and SENDMAIL Consultation) 8524 Highway 6 North, 162, Houston, TX 77095
From: giddings@sadie.chem.wisc.edu (Michael Giddings) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Where to find DarkForest for Intel? Date: 22 Oct 1993 19:05:08 GMT Organization: Division of Information Technology Distribution: world Message-ID: <2a9at4$nss@news.doit.wisc.edu> Does a version of DarkForest for NS/I exist? I checked it out and it seems like a great utility, but where I really need it is on a small drive on an Intel portable I use. Does anyone know if NeXT ever released the sources, or is considering releasing a FAT version? Thanks for any info. Michael Giddings UW Madison Chemistry
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: fermat@fermat.dartmouth.edu (Michael Glenn) Subject: Re: Xnext loses mouse -- help please? Message-ID: <CFBBB5.Evo@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> Sender: news@dartvax.dartmouth.edu (The News Manager) Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH References: <2a92vkINNrs4@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu> Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1993 18:57:03 GMT > When I start it up the first time everything is fine. > However, if I switch back to NeXTSTEP and then back to > X, I lose my cursor. A couple of times I can get it > back, but most of the time not. Yeah, it does this quite often. My only fix is to logout, then put "exit" as username (restarting the login app). This gets the cursor back for me. Is there an easier way to get the cursor back? A small command line program to do it would be useful. :) Michael
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) Subject: Re: WordPerfect Message-ID: <1993Oct22.202636.21172@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: Stanford University References: <1993Oct22.042306.220@weston.com> Date: Fri, 22 Oct 93 20:26:36 GMT Wes Spears writes > Is WordPerfect for Intel shipping? Yes. -- - Stefano Pagiola Food Research Institute, Stanford University spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged) spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
From: sam_s@NeXT.com (Sam Streeper) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Problems with StarShipView Backspace Mod Date: 22 Oct 1993 17:30:00 GMT Organization: NeXT, Inc. Message-ID: <2a95ao$r9o@rosie.next.com> References: <1993Oct22.164435.9433@nosc.mil> rsbrown@trane.nosc.mil (Robert S. Brown) writes: > The StarShipView modules uses loadable bundles. Unfortunately a bug > in NextStep caused a problem when you tried to load bundles from different > compiled versions. Close... nExtstep 3.0 supported fat applications, but not fat loadable code (bundles and the like). Loading of fat bundles was fixed in 3.1. I wonder if everyone that's having trouble is running 3.0? -sam -- Opinions expressed herein are not those of my employer. They're not even mine. They're probably wrong besides. How did they get in here, anyway?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: hlam@bmerh170.bnr.ca (Hayward Lam) Subject: QuickBase Question Message-ID: <1993Oct22.164107.8517@bmers95.bnr.ca> Sender: hlam@bmerh170 (Hayward Lam) Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1993 16:41:07 GMT Has anybody tried QuickBase? How much does it cost? How easy is it to use? I'm interested some inexpensive database server running on NeXT black or white hardware. Any comments welcomed. Thanks. Hayward
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software From: westes@netcom.com (Will Estes) Subject: Anyone make a dialup router for NeXT? Message-ID: <westesCFBo1r.In4@netcom.com> Organization: Mail Group Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1993 23:32:14 GMT Does anyone make any software that will turn a NeXT into a dialup router? I need a device I can stick on my network that will automatically complete a TCP connection to Internet via SLIP whenever a node on the network tries to initiate a TCP connection to a host on Internet. The dedicated dialup routers like Telebit Netblazers are both extremely expensive and featureless. Ideas? -- Will Estes Internet: westes@netcom.com
From: jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Joseph W Reiss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Problems with StarShipView Backspace Mod Date: 23 Oct 1993 04:10:59 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <2aaasj$mph@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> References: <1993Oct22.164435.9433@nosc.mil> <2a95ao$r9o@rosie.next.com> Sam_s@NeXT.com wrote... >Close... nExtstep 3.0 supported fat applications, but not fat >loadable code (bundles and the like). Loading of fat bundles was >fixed in 3.1. I wonder if everyone that's having trouble is running >3.0? Nope. Running NS3.1 on a NeXTStation Color. Got every different version of StarShipView off of cs.orst.edu. Neither of the precompiled versions work. Compiling my own doesn't work. Recompiling BackSpaceDuo doesn't work. Those have been the main suggestions for fixing this problem that I've seen. Anybody else tried anything more esoteric that actually yielded success? Joe -- __________ | NeXTMail? We can do NeXTMail!!! | |___) | """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" \_/OE | \EISS | .SIG? Ah! Signature, conclusion, ending, termination, `---- | closing, good-bye, farewell, adieu, witty remark...
From: doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu (Douglas Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Xnext loses mouse -- help please? Date: 23 Oct 1993 04:35:42 GMT Organization: Center for Computer Music Research and Composition, U.C.S.B. Message-ID: <2aacau$44e@hub.ucsb.edu> References: <2a92vkINNrs4@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu> <CFBBB5.Evo@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> Summary: Read the help window, please In article <CFBBB5.Evo@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> fermat@fermat.dartmouth.edu (Michael Glenn) writes: > > >> When I start it up the first time everything is fine. >> However, if I switch back to NeXTSTEP and then back to >> X, I lose my cursor. A couple of times I can get it >> back, but most of the time not. > >Yeah, it does this quite often. My only fix is to logout, then put "exit" >as username (restarting the login app). This gets the cursor back for me. > >Is there an easier way to get the cursor back? A small command line >program to do it would be useful. :) > The X cursor disappears? Is this what you really mean? This is very strange. I have been using Xnext continuously for the past 3 years, and have *never* once had the X cursor disappear on me. From the solution posted above, it sounds like you are talking about the *NextStep* cursor -- why else would you restart the login app?? To restart the X cursor, just restart X. I lose the *NextStep* cursor every now and then, and that is what the 'showcurs'utility is for. It is mentioned in the sometimes-annoying help window for Xfe.app -- have you perused this information lately? :-) Hope this helps. -- Douglas Scott | Senior Development Engineer Tel: (805) 893-8352 | Center for Computer Music Research and Composition Internet (NeXTMail ok): | Music Department <doug@ccmrc.ucsb.edu> | University of California, Santa Barbara
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc From: hbu@wag.ch (Hans Burkard) Subject: FaxReader: Main Window Size Message-ID: <CFB1AD.EF@wag.ch> Keywords: FaxReader Sender: usenet@wag.ch Organization: workstation ag, Rohrstr. 36/38, CH-8152 Glattbrugg, Switzerland Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1993 15:20:36 GMT We have installed NS on Laptop using the standard VGA display modus. Everything works perfectly accept... The main window of FaxReader is optimized for the "normal" screen resolutions (1120x832 or 1024x768). However the window size is far too large for a small screen on a labtop. Question: How can I define the default window size for the FaxReader application? Maybe there is an entry in NeXT default database? Thanks for your help! Hans e-mail: hbu@wag.ch
From: gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Problems with StarShipView Backspace Mod Date: 23 Oct 1993 11:47:04 GMT Organization: University of Maryland, College Park Message-ID: <2ab5jo$72v@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> References: <1993Oct22.164435.9433@nosc.mil> <2a95ao$r9o@rosie.next.com> <2aaasj$mph@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> In article <2aaasj$mph@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, Joseph W Reiss <jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> wrote: >Sam_s@NeXT.com wrote... >>Close... nExtstep 3.0 supported fat applications, but not fat >>loadable code (bundles and the like). Loading of fat bundles was >>fixed in 3.1. I wonder if everyone that's having trouble is running >>3.0? > >Nope. Running NS3.1 on a NeXTStation Color. Got every different >version of StarShipView off of cs.orst.edu. Neither of the >precompiled versions work. Compiling my own doesn't work. >Recompiling BackSpaceDuo doesn't work. > >Those have been the main suggestions for fixing this problem that I've >seen. Anybody else tried anything more esoteric that actually yielded >success? > >Joe > What worked in the end is using the BackSpace included with BackSpaceDuo also available via ftp at cs.orst.edu. I don't know WHY it works as I imagine the BS version is the same, but that's what I did. Nice module, but I hate the white "frame". Robert de Lucca "Minchiolini ha sempre ragione".
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: volker@abulafia.in-berlin.de (Volker Safran) Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP upgrade goofiness... Message-ID: <1993Oct22.204935.14238@abulafia.in-berlin.de> Sender: volker@abulafia.in-berlin.de Organization: Volker Safran, Interprint, Berlin, Germany References: <2a906j$f5s@TAMUTS.TAMU.EDU> Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1993 20:49:35 GMT In article <2a906j$f5s@TAMUTS.TAMU.EDU> dhess@net.tamu.edu writes: > > Ok, can anyone shed light on this? > > My university computer store carries NEXTSTEP but only the Intel version. They > do not carry it for NeXT Computers at all and can't order upgrades for them > (so they say). Apparently, NeXT or the distributor will not let them order > it for NeXT Computers. > > Then I call the upgrade center in Buffalo and they say that there is no > academic pricing on the upgrade at this time. Academic must pay $195 + $495 > to upgrade to 3.1. > > I thought academic pricing for the entire thing was $249. What the hell > is going on? Did I wait too long and now am doomed to this kind of pricing? > Does $249 only apply to the Intel version? Why can't I order the NeXT Computer > version from my campus store? Is this just an oversight that will be corrected > soon? > > Confused and confounded, I am wondering about this point, too. I am a student. I paid for NEXTStep 2.1 when I bought my Station, don't know how much. I paid about $300 for my 2.1 -> 3.0 upgrade (it was the bundle) and now I should pay another $700 for 3.2. A student, that buys 3.2 for Intel now, will pay $250 or $300 for the whole thing. I think, there is something really strange in NEXTs pricing policy. Perhaps someone at NEXT can explain this? > > Dave > Volker -- ************************************************************ * Volker Safran, FB20, TU Berlin, PHONE: +49 30 4542303 * * EMail: FAX: +49 30 4537157 * * volker@abulafia.in-berlin.de (NeXTMail very welcome)* * safran@fb3-s7.math.TU-Berlin.DE (no NeXTMail, sorry) * ************************************************************
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) Subject: Re: Mail Preprocessor that will correct UUNECODED files to NeXTMail In-Reply-To: jon@mercury.mgmt.purdue.edu's message of Fri, 22 Oct 1993 16:59:10 GMT To: jon@mercury.mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon Haveman) Message-ID: <CEDMAN.93Oct22193815@capitalist.princeton.edu> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University References: <2a8r8k$ebn@svin01.win.tue.nl> <CFB5un.9s6@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1993 23:38:15 GMT In article <CFB5un.9s6@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> jon@mercury.mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon Haveman) writes: In article <2a8r8k$ebn@svin01.win.tue.nl> wscomalo@bs.win.tue.nl (Malo Hautus) writes: > In article <1993Oct22.051040.4153@nosc.mil> ron@jaws.nosc.mil (Ron > Broersma) writes: > > > Yes, it has been done. I wrote a replacement for Mail.app/MailFetch > > that > > makes an initial pass over the spool file to determine if there are > > any > > chunks of uuencoded stuff in the body of any of the messages. It then > > uudecodes it and re-issues the message in NeXTmail format so that the > > user > > sees what looks like normal NeXTmail with an attachment. It really > > makes > > life easier for people that receive a lot of mail with uuencoded > > attachments from other mail systems, like cc:Mail. > > This sounds interesting. Is it available? Please say that it is - PLEASE. The concept is certainly nice, but implementing it in MailFetch is a hack. The source for MailFetch is not publicly available, so few people outside of NeXT know for sure everything that MailFetch does. Even if they do, there are no guarantees that MailFetch will not change from one version of NS to the NeXT, so your MailFetch replacement may break at any time. Finally, MailFetch is run synchroneously by Mail.app, rather than by sendmail so performance will suffer. A better solution is to install procmail. In addition to its many other powerful mail handling capabilities adding a little filter which transforms uuencoded mail to NeXTmail should only be a matter of a few lines of shell script. Carl Edman
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP upgrade goofiness... Date: 23 Oct 1993 20:33:59 GMT Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz Distribution: world Message-ID: <2ac4fn$4t6@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> References: <1993Oct22.204935.14238@abulafia.in-berlin.de> In article <1993Oct22.204935.14238@abulafia.in-berlin.de> volker@abulafia.in-berlin.de (Volker Safran) writes: > I am wondering about this point, too. I am a student. I paid for > NEXTStep 2.1 when I bought my Station, don't know how much. I paid about > $300 for my 2.1 -> 3.0 upgrade (it was the bundle) and now I should pay > another $700 for 3.2. I don't know about any market but the U.S., but all black hardware owners here have had since April until the recent price increase to order the 3.1 User and Developer upgrades for about $180 total. This includes the 3.2 upgrade at no extra cost. So I guess I don't have much sympathy for those who chose not to purchase during the 6 months that the price was lower. NeXT gave advanced warning of the price increase as well. Now we could debate whether NeXT should have charged anything for a minor upgrade (3.0->3.1), but I think everyone needs to realize that even minor upgrades cost NeXT big bucks and NeXT's major source of revenue is OS software sales. So if we require that NeXT give away all minor 3.x upgrades, then NeXT may not be around to sell us 4.0. OS software is incredibly inexpensive relative to all other categories of software, especially considering its complexity and functionality. Maybe NeXT should do as Microsoft has done and compete with its 3rd-party developers in various shrink-wrap categories so that it could afford to lower the OS software prices. I don't think that most developers would welcome this approach considering the tough times for 3rd-party developers in the small NEXTSTEP market. > A student, that buys 3.2 for Intel now, will pay $250 or $300 for the > whole thing. I think, there is something really strange in NEXTs pricing > policy. Perhaps someone at NEXT can explain this? Educational discounts are a good marketing move and should lead to future full-price sales when these students who were able to purchase NEXTSTEP at a low price enter the real world. This pricing policy is certainly not NeXT's innovation here in the U.S. market. Most vendors offer educational pricing. -- Art Isbell Cubic Solutions NeXT Registered Developer NEXTSTEP software development and consulting NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: +1 408 335 1154 USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: +1 408 335 2515
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mesa Graph Bounding Boxes Date: 23 Oct 1993 22:18:15 GMT Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office Message-ID: <2acaj7$1qt@news.mic.ucla.edu> References: <2a1vcc$h1c@news.mic.ucla.edu> Apparently, there is a color well in the graph inspector. So, it is really easy to change---I just didn't see it. Ivo Welch (ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu) wrote: : Does anyone know how to get rid of bounding boxes in Mesa? I'd be happy to : do it by editing the postscript output in emacs if I only knew which line(s) : to delete. Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu Asst Prof of Finance iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu AGSM at UCLA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.databases.oracle From: goofy!stephens (robert stephens) Subject: Help Connecting to Oracle_6 Message-ID: <1993Oct20.211910.559@goofy.uucp> Keywords: oracle_6,NEXTSTEP_3.1,OracleDemo Sender: stephens@goofy.uucp Organization: open road Distribution: usa Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1993 21:19:10 GMT I have installed Oracle version 6.0.33.2.1 on a stand alone server running NEXTSTEP 3.1 and am able to start up the database from a shell. I am also able to query the demo database when logging in as "scott". However, when trying to connect to a running Oracle database from the login window of the Database Kit example "OracleDemo", the same login used from a shell for "scott" does not work. Any ideas ? Is there another demo database which must be installed other than the one supplied by oracle for the example NEXTSTEP program "OracleDemo"? Thanks, robert stephens stephens@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: goofy!stephens (robert stephens) Subject: Help connecting Oracle_6 to NEXTSTEP3.1 Message-ID: <1993Oct23.082427.259@goofy.uucp> Keywords: Oracle_6, NEXTSTEP3.1 Sender: stephens@goofy.uucp Organization: open road Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1993 08:24:27 GMT I have installed Oracle version 6.0.33.2.1 on a stand alone server running NeXTSTEP 3.1 and am able to start up the database from a shell. I am also able to query the demo database when logging in as "scott". However, when trying to connect to a running Oracle database from the login window of the Database Kit example "OracleDemo", the same login used from a shell for "scott" does not work. Any ideas ? Is there another demo database which must be installed other than the one supplied by oracle for the example NeXTSTEP program "OracleDemo"? Thanks, robert stephens stephens@netcom.com
From: statman@stat.ufl.edu (Charles D. Kincaid) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: New statement of problem (was Re: Xnext loses mouse -- help please?) Date: 24 Oct 1993 18:10:18 GMT Organization: University of Florida Distribution: world Message-ID: <2aegeaINN4n6@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu> References: <2aacau$44e@hub.ucsb.edu> In article <2aacau$44e@hub.ucsb.edu> doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu (Douglas Scott) writes: > In article <CFBBB5.Evo@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> fermat@fermat.dartmouth.edu (Michael Glenn) writes: > > > > > >> When I start it up the first time everything is fine. > >> However, if I switch back to NeXTSTEP and then back to > >> X, I lose my cursor. A couple of times I can get it > >> back, but most of the time not. > > > >Yeah, it does this quite often. My only fix is to logout, then put "exit" > >as username (restarting the login app). This gets the cursor back for me. > > > >Is there an easier way to get the cursor back? A small command line > >program to do it would be useful. :) > > > > The X cursor disappears? Is this what you really mean? > > This is very strange. I have been using Xnext continuously for the past 3 > years, and have *never* once had the X cursor disappear on me. From the > solution posted above, it sounds like you are talking about the *NextStep* > cursor -- why else would you restart the login app?? To restart the X cursor, > just restart X. > > I lose the *NextStep* cursor every now and then, and that is what the 'showcurs'utility is for. It is mentioned in the sometimes-annoying help window for > Xfe.app -- have you perused this information lately? :-) > > Hope this helps. Hello, I'm the one that posted the original request for help. I should have been clearer about the problem. Mea culpa. What happens is the following. I start up Xfe.app and then start X-windows. It comes up fine and I can work fine. If I 'hot-key' back to NeXTSTEP and then resume X-windows, the cursor shows but I can't use it for anything. Once, I think that it eventually started working, but every other time, even after repeatedly switching back and forth, the cursor is there but clicking either right, left or both buttons does nothing. I have the other button enabled, so that's not it. I have never had the problem of losing the NeXTSTEP cursor. (knock plastic. we don't have any wood :-) So, has anyone had _this_ problem? Thanks for the help so far. -- Sincerely, charles d. kincaid -------------------------------------------------------------------- Dept. of Statistics 'Damn fine coffee...and hot, too!' Univ. of Florida Pres: G-ville NeXT Users Group
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Question: Background picture app for NeXT? Message-ID: <1993Oct23.164250.25084@yang.earlham.edu> From: apumpkin@rana.math.earlham.edu (Only Wanting Contact) Date: 23 Oct 93 16:42:49 EST Distribution: world Is there an application for the NeXT that allows one to replace the blank background with a picture file? -- Aaron G. Stock, etc.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: magnusson!kris (Kristopher Magnusson) Subject: Re: Info abut ZZVolume needed. Message-ID: <CF3t1n.186@magnusson.uucp> Sender: kris@magnusson.uucp (Kristopher Magnusson) Organization: Salt Lake area NeXT Group References: <29oqnr$k8n@loch2.cc.strath.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1993 17:39:22 GMT In article <29oqnr$k8n@loch2.cc.strath.ac.uk> ccas57@ccsun.strath.ac.uk ( "Gabor.Freivogel") writes: > > Hallo I am trying to get some info about ZZVolume, but I dont know how to get > hold of any information. I have sent several e-mails in the last month to Alembic, > but I have never received any answer. > > Can somebody tell me please, how and where can I get details about this product? > Is a Demo available on some FTP sites? > > I was told that ZZVolume is a french product. Is there a way to cantact the this > company directly? > > Thanks for any information. > > > Gabor > > > > E mail (NeXT-mail) : ccas57@strath.ac.uk > or > gabor@architektur.uni-kassel.de We resell Alembic products. Call _me_ up and I'll talk to you--and set up a conference call with Alembic if need be. 801/268-8877 Kris ers in cases like that. You can't stop the conversation > to send and receive a fax, even if turnaround were instantaneous. > > -- > - > Stefano Pagiola > Food Research Institute, Stanford University > spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail enco -- Kris Magnusson <hellgate!uplherc!cusa!neb!magnusson!kris> Alpine Computing ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- #import <salespitchforcloneEpsonIntelDECALRASTCompaqNECHPandwrittenguarantee.h> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous." --Marvin Gardner
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: magnusson!kris (Kristopher Magnusson) Subject: Re: TipTop Message-ID: <CF3t7x.19M@magnusson.uucp> Sender: kris@magnusson.uucp (Kristopher Magnusson) Organization: Salt Lake area NeXT Group References: <1993Oct13.143916.11268@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu> Distribution: na Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1993 17:43:09 GMT In article <1993Oct13.143916.11268@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu> wkwong@bode.eng.ohio-state.edu (Waihon Andrew Kwong) writes: > In article <thompsonCEtGFA.LCH@netcom.com> thompson@netcom.com (Eric Thompson) writes: > >abell@netcom.com (Steven T. Abell) writes: > >>Has anyone run Pedja Bogdanovich's T ipTop program as setuid uucp.daemon? > >>Any problems? > > > >Yes, I've been running it since it came out. Awesome app! No problems > >at all. > > I'll second it. TipTop is a cool NeXTApp. > > Andy > > > > >Eric > >thompson@netcom.com > > I love TipTop so much I'm including a fully licensed version with the next few boxes we ship. I'm definitely a TipTop junkie. Kris 8877 Kris ers in cases like that. You can't stop the conversation > to send and receive a fax, even if turnaround were instantaneous. > > -- > - > Stefano Pagiola > Food Research Institute, Stanford University > spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail enco -- Kris Magnusson <hellgate!uplherc!cusa!neb!magnusson!kris> Alpine Computing ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- #import <salespitchforcloneEpsonIntelDECALRASTCompaqNECHPandwrittenguarantee.h> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous." --Marvin Gardner
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Improv dwrite to get color charts? Message-ID: <Oct.24.21.12.05.1993.29561@gandalf.rutgers.edu> Date: 25 Oct 93 01:12:05 GMT Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J. Hi all, I remember some one once mentioned that you can get improv/presentation builder to output color charts by enabling some dwrite option. I'd appreciate it, if you know what the dwrite is, if some one could tell me what the dwrite is to get the color capability. Thanks, Later, John
From: statman@stat.ufl.edu (Charles D. Kincaid) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: New statement of problem (was Re: Xnext loses mouse -- help please?) Date: 25 Oct 1993 01:11:12 GMT Organization: University of Florida Distribution: world Message-ID: <2af93gINNa89@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu> References: <2aegeaINN4n6@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu> In article <2aegeaINN4n6@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu> statman@stat.ufl.edu (Charles D. Kincaid) writes: > > What happens is the following. I start up Xfe.app and then start > X-windows. It comes up fine and I can work fine. If I 'hot-key' > back to NeXTSTEP and then resume X-windows, the cursor shows but > I can't use it for anything. Once, I think that it eventually > started working, but every other time, even after repeatedly > switching back and forth, the cursor is there but clicking either > right, left or both buttons does nothing. > Hello, after a helpful person (John Todd) sent me a message with the solution that worked for them (moving the mouse in a circle of about an inch or so while in transition from NS to X), but didn't work for me I found the solution (actually my solution. Your mileage may vary). BTW, I am using version 2.3. If I clicked in the menu to resume the X windows session, then I would lose mouse control. Clicking did nothing. However, if I used the command key sequence, cmd-X, then voila! all is as it should be. I'm sure that there is a reasonable explanation, but I don't know it. And I'm sure that if I were Mark Crispin I wouldn't take this lying down. :-) :-) :-) (It's a joke!!!! (copyright David Letterman)) :-) :-) :-) Does anyone know why this functions as it does? -- Sincerely (only a little bit. It's been a long weekend), charles d. kincaid -------------------------------------------------------------------- Dept. of Statistics 'Damn fine coffee...and hot, too!' Univ. of Florida Pres: G-ville NeXT Users Group statman@stat.ufl.edu *****NeXTMail preferred****** (904) 392-1941x206 The Statistical Janitor -------------------------------------------------------------------- 'I just saw Regis Filbin out on the side of the street... is that anything?' -- Car Phone Night with David Letterman --------------------------------------------------------------------
From: ccwf@russel.klab.caltech.edu (Charles Fu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mail Preprocessor that will correct UUNECODED files to NeXTMail Date: 25 Oct 1993 04:06:29 GMT Organization: FTL Enterprises, Inc. Message-ID: <2afjc5$kh0@gap.cco.caltech.edu> References: <2a8r8k$ebn@svin01.win.tue.nl> <CFB5un.9s6@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> <CEDMAN.93Oct22193815@capitalist.princeton.edu> In article <CEDMAN.93Oct22193815@capitalist.princeton.edu>, Carl Edman <cedman@princeton.edu> wrote: >The concept is certainly nice, but implementing it in MailFetch is a >hack. The source for MailFetch is not publicly available, so few >people outside of NeXT know for sure everything that MailFetch does. You could also write a filter and put it in .forward.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: kramer@fragile.termfrost.org (Mike Andrews) Subject: Getting Kermit (189) to respond to carrier loss Message-ID: <CFFw9J.5K1@fragile.termfrost.org> Organization: Terminal Frost, Springfield OH Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1993 06:20:07 GMT I'm trying to get Kermit to drop back to its local command mode when it sees a loss of carrier. It SEEMS like the documentation says "set carrier on" will do this, but it dosen't work. (The general idea is that I've got a dedicated dial-out account on my home machine that loads Kermit in its .login, dials a number and goes into terminal mode, and when Kermit exits, the window closes/logs out. I'd like Kermit to drop to its command mode as soon as it loses carrier; there won't be any file transfers on this account anyway) All combos of "set carrier" don't have any effect, yet "show comm" shows that it's detecting carrier OK. (My modem is NOT set to force carrier high by default like most modems are...) Any ideas? -- Mike Andrews root@fragile.termfrost.org [NeXTmail OK] kramer@wittenberg.edu (school) "This guy's pretty bizarre, Gus." kramer@mik.uky.edu (hometown) -- Primus
From: erland@spock.physik.uni-konstanz.de (Erland Wittkoetter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: SoftPC Date: 23 Oct 1993 13:25:16 GMT Organization: University of Constance Message-ID: <2abbbs$dqd@hermes.uni-konstanz.de> Hey Is SoftPC for Intel already available ? How much does it cost ? Thanks Erland -- -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- Erland Wittkoetter -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_ Uni Konstanz, Dept.of Physics, LS Dehnen, PO.Box 5560, 78434 Konstanz Phone: +(49) 7531-88-3747 FAX. +(49) 7531-88-3888 (priv.) Abendbergweg 7, 78465 Konstanz,Germany, Phone:+(49)7531-43078 E-mail: erland@spock.physik.uni-konstanz.de
From: jbell@spiffy.cybernet.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Date.app on Intel Date: 25 Oct 93 10:05:53 Organization: Msen, Inc. -- Ann Arbor, Michigan Distribution: fj Message-ID: <jbell.93Oct2510553@spiffy> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Despite Date.app's simple features, I've come to rely on it. Now I'm working on Intel and I could sure use it. I remembered it came with 2.1, but was there source available? So, if anyone has source, or has compiled Data for Intel, I'd much appreciate being filled in. --- J. Shan Bell Cybernet Systems Corportation jbell@cybernet.com (NeXTMail accepted) Research and Development (313) 668-2567 Voice (313) 668-8780 Fax Ann Arbor, MI
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: cuilla@black_silk (Chris Cuilla) Subject: Re: QuickBase Question Message-ID: <1993Oct25.133115.19149@il.us.swissbank.com> Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator) Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division References: <1993Oct22.164107.8517@bmers95.bnr.ca> Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1993 13:31:15 GMT Hayward Lam writes > Has anybody tried QuickBase? How much does it cost? How easy is it to > use? > I'm interested some inexpensive database server running on NeXT black or > white hardware. > > Any comments welcomed. > > > Thanks. > Hayward I have used it on a project. I liked it. It has a pretty simple/straight-forward API for sending SQL code and getting results back. I'm withholding my opinion on the DBAdaptor ow, since I have yet to determine if certain problems I've experienced are there's or mine. But...overall it's very good. Support from SofDesign is terrific. Cost...you'll have to check...they have a variety of items on their menu. I wish I had their number handy for you...sorry. -- Chris Cuilla --- Opinions voiced are my own and only my own and I defend to the death my right to deny anything I've said. --------------------------------------------------------------------- "There's no such thing a as 'part-time' perfectionist." --------------------------------------------------------------------- P.S. I do not work for, consult for or have any interest in QuickBase/SofDesign Solutions.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: ron@jaws.nosc.mil (Ron Broersma) Subject: Re: Mail Preprocessor that will correct UUNECODED files to NeXTMail Message-ID: <1993Oct25.144759.1420@nosc.mil> Sender: usenet@nosc.mil (Network News) Organization: NCCOSC RDT&E Division, San Diego, CA References: <CEDMAN.93Oct22193815@capitalist.princeton.edu> Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1993 14:47:59 GMT > The concept is certainly nice, but implementing it in MailFetch is a > hack. The source for MailFetch is not publicly available, so few > people outside of NeXT know for sure everything that MailFetch does. > Even if they do, there are no guarantees that MailFetch will not > change from one version of NS to the NeXT, so your MailFetch > replacement may break at any time. Finally, MailFetch is run > synchroneously by Mail.app, rather than by sendmail so performance > will suffer. I agree it is a hack, but until now I haven't found a better way to accomplish this. As for future versions of NEXTSTEP, I am assuming that eventually NeXT will get it right and this will become a non-issue. I cannot have sendmail do the job for the following reasons. The translation process cannot happen before you put incoming mail into /usr/spool/mail/user. The reason is (for us) because we have more than NeXTmail users on our server. Some read mail using elm, msg, Mail, and various pop clients. If we translate to NeXTmail too early, then users of these other mail agents will get the translated version, which we don't want. So, it has to be done as part of MailFetch or later, not before. Ideal situation would be if it worked like newsgrazer. But with lack of sources, I've used the only option available to me, a wrapper for MailFetch. > A better solution is to install procmail. In addition to its many > other powerful mail handling capabilities adding a little filter which > transforms uuencoded mail to NeXTmail should only be a matter of a few > lines of shell script. I'm not familiar with procmail. --Ron
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: ron@jaws.nosc.mil (Ron Broersma) Subject: Re: Mail Preprocessor that will correct UUNECODED files to NeXTMail Message-ID: <1993Oct25.145708.1537@nosc.mil> Sender: usenet@nosc.mil (Network News) Organization: NCCOSC RDT&E Division, San Diego, CA References: <2afjc5$kh0@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1993 14:57:08 GMT In article <2afjc5$kh0@gap.cco.caltech.edu> ccwf@russel.klab.caltech.edu (Charles Fu) writes: > You could also write a filter and put it in .forward. Again, the problem is that sometimes people read mail with the NeXTmail app, other times they read mail using some other mail client (user agent). Although the .forward scheme is a slick way to handle it on a per user basis, users are going to have to remember to turn it on and off at the appropriate times. Our typical user will use NeXTmail all day and then use elm or Mail while dialled in from home at night, or when on travel. You only want to convert to NeXTmail format if you know for certain that the end user is going to read that particular message with NeXTmail. That's because NeXTmail format is a heck of a lot harder to decode with Unix commands than something that's simply uuencoded. Someday, everything will be MIME compliant and this problem will go away. I'm just trying to hack things up to hold us over until that time. --Ron
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: gtoews@fulford.UVic.CA (Greg Toews) Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP upgrade goofiness... Message-ID: <1993Oct25.162850.19839@sol.UVic.CA> Sender: news@sol.UVic.CA Organization: University of Victoria References: <2a906j$f5s@TAMUTS.TAMU.EDU> Date: Mon, 25 Oct 93 16:28:50 GMT Do you have to post this to EVERY group!!!!!!!!!!!
From: seubert@cip.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Klemens Seubert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: TIFF -> PostScript Converter Date: 25 Oct 1993 17:56:15 GMT Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany Message-ID: <2ah3vv$3vq@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> I need a TIFF to PostScript converter. Is there such a program available in the public domain? Thanks -- Klemens Seubert (ssubert@cip.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: thf@zelator.in-berlin.de (Thomas Funke) Subject: Re: Xnext loses mouse -- help please? Message-ID: <1993Oct24.120903.756@gamelan> Sender: thomas@gamelan (thomas) Organization: Disorganization References: <CFBBB5.Evo@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1993 12:09:03 GMT In article <CFBBB5.Evo@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> fermat@fermat.dartmouth.edu (Michael Glenn) writes: > > Is there an easier way to get the cursor back? A small command line > program to do it would be useful. :) > --- cut here ---- #! /bin/sh echo showcursor | pft ----------------- Isn't postscript easy ? -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Thomas Funke ** Unix-Consultant ** thf@zelator.in-berlin.de Brooks's Law: Adding manpower to a late software project makes it later ------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: volker@abulafia.in-berlin.de (Volker Safran) Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP upgrade goofiness... Message-ID: <1993Oct24.163238.837@abulafia.in-berlin.de> Sender: volker@abulafia.in-berlin.de Organization: Volker Safran, Interprint, Berlin, Germany References: <2ac4fn$4t6@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1993 16:32:38 GMT In article <2ac4fn$4t6@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) writes: > In article <1993Oct22.204935.14238@abulafia.in-berlin.de> > volker@abulafia.in-berlin.de (Volker Safran) writes: > > I am wondering about this point, too. I am a student. I paid > > for NEXTStep 2.1 when I bought my Station, don't know how > > much. I paid about $300 for my 2.1 -> 3.0 upgrade (it was > > the bundle) and now I should pay another $700 for 3.2. > > I don't know about any market but the U.S., but all black > hardware > owners here have had since April until the recent price increase > to order the 3.1 User and Developer upgrades for about $180 > total. This includes the 3.2 upgrade at no extra cost. So I > guess I don't have much sympathy for those who chose not to > purchase during the 6 months that the price was lower. NeXT > gave advanced warning of the price increase as well. I know about this fact. It is the same here in Germany. But perhaps someone had really no money at this time or has not seen the advantages of 3.1 vs. 3.0 on black hardware or whatever. I just think, they have to keep the price proportions between Intel and Moto right. Moto must not be cheaper, but I think it is really not nice to "old" NEXT customers to be treated like that. > Now we could debate whether NeXT should have charged anything > for a > minor upgrade (3.0->3.1), but I think everyone needs to realize > that even minor upgrades cost NeXT big bucks and NeXT's major > source of revenue is OS software sales. So if we require that > NeXT give away all minor 3.x upgrades, then NeXT may not be > around to sell us 4.0. > OS software is incredibly inexpensive relative to all other > categories > of software, especially considering its complexity and functionality. > Maybe NeXT should do as Microsoft has done and compete with its > 3rd-party developers in various shrink-wrap categories so that > it could afford to lower the OS software prices. I don't think > that most developers would welcome this approach considering > the tough times for 3rd-party developers in the small NEXTSTEP > market. I don't want to discuss these points here: free, cheaper, more expensive, special cheap offers for anyone, unbundling this and that. It is just my opinion, that they should not take more money for the Moto version than they take for Intel. > > > A student, that buys 3.2 for Intel now, will pay $250 or $300 > > for the whole thing. I think, there is something really > > strange in NEXTs pricing policy. Perhaps someone at NEXT can > > explain this? > > Educational discounts are a good marketing move and should lead > to future full-price sales when these students who were able > to purchase NEXTSTEP at a low price enter the real world. This > pricing policy is certainly not NeXT's innovation here in the > U.S. market. Most vendors offer educational pricing. Has this anything to do with my question? Volker -- ************************************************************ * Volker Safran, FB20, TU Berlin, PHONE: +49 30 4542303 * * EMail: FAX: +49 30 4537157 * * volker@abulafia.in-berlin.de (NeXTMail very welcome)* * safran@fb3-s7.math.TU-Berlin.DE (no NeXTMail, sorry) * ************************************************************
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) Subject: Re: TIFF -> PostScript Converter Message-ID: <1993Oct25.182309.22126@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: Stanford University References: <2ah3vv$3vq@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> Date: Mon, 25 Oct 93 18:23:09 GMT Klemens Seubert writes > I need a TIFF to PostScript converter. > Is there such a program available in the public domain? You can always just open the tiff file, call up the print panel, and hit "save". The result is a postscript file. Adjust the "page size" first to avoid a lot of white space around your image. You can also import the tiff into a graphics program (like Draw or Create); you can then save out from there as .eps. -- - Stefano Pagiola Food Research Institute, Stanford University spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged) spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: vfr750@netcom.com (Will Hartung) Subject: Librarian topics Message-ID: <vfr750CFFyKq.7KE@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1993 07:10:01 GMT Maybe I'm confused, but I seem to recall, maybe long ago, that there was a way for Digital Librarian to display a subject or summary along with the file name after you've done a search or a List Titles. So, I'm wondering: a) Am I hallucinating? Did this ever happen? b) If 'a' is Yes, what little thing do I have to do to the file to get the topic/summary line to show up? This is on 3.1. Thanx for any pointers. Will (vfr750@netcom.com) -- Will Hartung - Hermosa Beach, Lower Left Coast. vfr750@netcom.com, it's not just a login, it's RED!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dcode@netcom.com (Paul Marcos) Subject: Re: New statement of problem (was Re: Xnext loses mouse -- help please?) Message-ID: <dcodeCFGF8x.CEn@netcom.com> Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) References: <2aacau$44e@hub.ucsb.edu> <2aegeaINN4n6@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu> Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1993 13:10:09 GMT Yes, I've had _this_problem :) My solution was to Command-Click (or possibly Command-Click Both mouse buttons at the same time - I forget). At any rate I had the same thing happen and just happened to stumble across the workaround one day. Also, what window manager are you using in X? I was using twm and suspected the problem to possibly be associated with that window manager. I have since stopped using X on my NeXT but do remember this problem fondly! If you can't get it working drop me a line and I'll try to give more detail. Good Luck! Paul -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- dCode | Internet: dcode@netcom.com | (415) 960-3539 NeXT Mail Happily Accepted
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: smith@nextone.niehs.nih.gov (Howard C. Smith) Subject: Re: CHINESE WATER TORTURE = File transfer to DOS diskettes ("File name too long!") Message-ID: <1993Oct25.191518.943@alw.nih.gov> Keywords: dos is death Sender: postman@alw.nih.gov (AMDS Postmaster) Organization: National Institutes of Health References: <29pc7l$puc@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1993 19:15:18 GMT In article <29pc7l$puc@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> lones@lones.mit.edu (Lones A. Smith) writes: > Hi, > I am trying to download a zillion pk files to my laptop, which > unfortunately is DOS based. I just can't do it. I have tried unix commands Try this: You'll have to modify the source and destination directories of course... -------------------------- copydos.csh --------------------------- #/bin/csh set src = "/tmp" set dest = "/Untitled" set extension = ".pk" set files = `ls $src/*$extension` foreach file ($files) echo "processing $file ..." set infile = $file set outf = `basename $file $extension` set outfile = `echo $outf | awk '{ printf("%.8s",$1) }' ` echo "copying $infile to $dest/$outfile$extension" # cp $infile $dest/$outfile$extension end --------------------- snip snip --------------- -- Howard C. Smith smith@nextone.niehs.nih.gov
From: yygold@yadin.phyast.pitt.edu (Yadin Y. Goldschmidt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: New statement of problem (was Re: Xnext loses mouse -- help please?) Message-ID: <5093@blue.cis.pitt.edu> Date: 25 Oct 93 18:56:35 GMT References: <2aacau$44e@hub.ucsb.edu> <2aegeaINN4n6@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu> Sender: news+@pitt.edu Charles D. Kincaid (statman@stat.ufl.edu) wrote: : In article <2aacau$44e@hub.ucsb.edu> doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu (Douglas : Scott) writes: : > In article <CFBBB5.Evo@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> : fermat@fermat.dartmouth.edu (Michael Glenn) writes: : > > : > > : > >> When I start it up the first time everything is fine. : > >> However, if I switch back to NeXTSTEP and then back to : > >> X, I lose my cursor. A couple of times I can get it : > >> back, but most of the time not. : > > : > >Yeah, it does this quite often. My only fix is to logout, then put : "exit" : > >as username (restarting the login app). This gets the cursor back for : me. : > > : > >Is there an easier way to get the cursor back? A small command line : > >program to do it would be useful. :) : > > : > : > The X cursor disappears? Is this what you really mean? : > : > This is very strange. I have been using Xnext continuously for the past : 3 : > years, and have *never* once had the X cursor disappear on me. From the : > solution posted above, it sounds like you are talking about the : *NextStep* : > cursor -- why else would you restart the login app?? To restart the X : cursor, : > just restart X. : > : > I lose the *NextStep* cursor every now and then, and that is what the : 'showcurs'utility is for. It is mentioned in the sometimes-annoying help : window for : > Xfe.app -- have you perused this information lately? :-) : > : > Hope this helps. : Hello, : I'm the one that posted the original request for help. I should : have been clearer about the problem. Mea culpa. : What happens is the following. I start up Xfe.app and then start : X-windows. It comes up fine and I can work fine. If I 'hot-key' back to : NeXTSTEP and then resume X-windows, the cursor shows but I can't use it : for anything. Once, I think that it eventually started working, but every : other time, even after repeatedly switching back and forth, the cursor is : there but clicking either right, left or both buttons does nothing. I : have the other button enabled, so that's not it. I have never had the : problem of losing the NeXTSTEP cursor. (knock plastic. we don't have any : wood :-) : So, has anyone had _this_ problem? Thanks for the help so far. : -- : Sincerely, : charles d. kincaid : -------------------------------------------------------------------- : Dept. of Statistics 'Damn fine coffee...and hot, too!' : Univ. of Florida Pres: G-ville NeXT Users Group Add the following lines to your .xinitrc file just before the line calling the window manager (olwm or twm) xmodmap - << EOF remove mod1 = Meta_L Meta_R remove mod2 = Alt_L Alt_R keysym Meta_L = Alt_L keysym Meta_R = Alt_R keysym Alt_L = Meta_L keysym Alt_R = Meta_R add mod1 = Meta_L Meta_R add mod2 = Alt_L Alt_R EOF This should fix your problem. Yadin.
From: doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu (Douglas Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: New statement of problem (was Re: Xnext loses mouse -- help please?) Date: 25 Oct 1993 19:33:11 GMT Organization: University of California, Santa Barbara Distribution: world Message-ID: <2ah9ln$ism@hub.ucsb.edu> References: <2af93gINNa89@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu> In article <2af93gINNa89@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu> statman@stat.ufl.edu (Charles D. Kincaid) writes: ] In article <2aegeaINN4n6@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu> statman@stat.ufl.edu ] (Charles D. Kincaid) writes: ] > ] > What happens is the following. I start up Xfe.app and then start ] > X-windows. It comes up fine and I can work fine. If I 'hot-key' ] > back to NeXTSTEP and then resume X-windows, the cursor shows but ] > I can't use it for anything. Once, I think that it eventually ] > started working, but every other time, even after repeatedly ] > switching back and forth, the cursor is there but clicking either ] > right, left or both buttons does nothing. ] > ] ] Hello, after a helpful person (John Todd) sent me a message with ] the solution that worked for them (moving the mouse in a circle of about ] an inch or so while in transition from NS to X), but didn't work for me I ] found the solution (actually my solution. Your mileage may vary). BTW, I ] am using version 2.3. If I clicked in the menu to resume the X windows ] session, then I would lose mouse control. Clicking did nothing. However, ] if I used the command key sequence, cmd-X, then voila! all is as it should ] be. I'm sure that there is a reasonable explanation, but I don't know it. ] And I'm sure that if I were Mark Crispin I wouldn't take this lying down. ] :-) :-) :-) (It's a joke!!!! (copyright David Letterman)) :-) :-) :-) ] ] Does anyone know why this functions as it does? ] I have never had this problem either -- but one perhaps related: when switching into NeXTStep from X, often times there is a keydown or mousedown event in the pipe at the moment of transition. When you arrive *back* in X, it still thinks that key or mouse button is down, and often is in a grab mode waiting for the up-event to match. Unfortunately, that event is gone, having shown up in the NeXTStep half of things. One way to reduce this problem is to remap the X keys so the <command> key(s) are no longer the meta keys for X, instead functioning ONLY as the hot keys for the switch. This way the keydown events from them dont matter. Put the following in your .xinitrc file, prior to starting up any other programs: # The following lines can be used to reverse the function of the # <command> and the <alt> keys on the NeXT keyboard so that the <alt> key # functions as the meta key for the window server xmodmap - << EOF remove mod1 = Meta_L Meta_R remove mod2 = Alt_L Alt_R keysym Meta_L = Alt_L keysym Meta_R = Alt_R keysym Alt_L = Meta_L keysym Alt_R = Meta_R add mod1 = Meta_L Meta_R add mod2 = Alt_L Alt_R EOF If there is somehow a mouse event getting stuck, I dont yet have any answer to that one. Hope this helps. -- Douglas Scott | Senior Development Engineer Tel: (805) 893-8352 | Center for Computer Music Research and Composition Internet (NeXTMail ok): | Music Department <doug@ccmrc.ucsb.edu> | University of California, Santa Barbara
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: clarance@nshade.uah.ualberta.ca (Clarance Howatt) Subject: Re: WordPerfect Message-ID: <1993Oct25.194450.29255@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada References: <1993Oct22.202636.21172@leland.Stanford.EDU> Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1993 19:44:50 GMT I just heard today that WordPerfect has "frozen" all development for NEXTSTEP. Is this true? What does this mean to NEXTSTEP (can a platform survive without a proven popular word processor?) -- ============================================================ Clarance Howatt Programmer, Information Systems \\\ /// University of Alberta Hospitals \\\ /\ /// WMC 2C2.21, 8440 - 112th Street, \\\ //\\ /// Edmonton, Alberta \\\///\\\///
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: cleelacj@agedwards.com (Chris Cleeland) Subject: Re: Perl - make problem (68040) Message-ID: <CFGvGr.1E3@agedwards.com> Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1993 19:00:26 GMT References: <2a7433$h43@angmar.sat.disney.com> Organization: A. G. Edwards & Sons, Inc. Richard Ruth (rruth@studio.disney.com) wrote: : I am attempting to get Perl running on a NeXT Station under : NEXTSTEP 3.1. While running "make" there were a few warnings : about unknown variables, but no fatal errors. Haven't built perl under 3.1 yet, but will draw upon past experiences... : Below is part of the output from "make test" : comp/cpp.......:10: unterminated string or character constant No idea 'bout this... : op/groups......group routines not implemented at ./op/groups.t line 11. : FAILED on test 1 This tests perl's ability to go in and look at Unix group stuff (which is normally stored in /etc/group). This doesn't work b/c of NetInfo. If you really need this functionality, you'll have to patch up the perl code (I've thought about doing this, but never had the need). Optionally, if you just need it in places, you could provide NeXT-specific subroutines in a package and use those. They would be based on the ni utilities. -cj -- ============================================================================== Chris Cleeland | NeXTMail: chris@milo.st-louis.mo.us BOS Dev. Team | MIMEMail: cleeland@agedwards.com | BellNet: (314) 289-5372
From: annard@theborg.stack.urc.tue.nl (Annard Brouwer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: AppleTalk for NeXTSTEP 3.1 Date: 25 Oct 1993 09:22:28 GMT Organization: the Borg Distribution: world Message-ID: <2ag5sl$7h@theborg.stack.urc.tue.nl> References: <1993Oct21.124940.9852@ads.com> In article <1993Oct21.124940.9852@ads.com> chris@sartre.ads.com (Chris Smith) writes: > Are there any third-party commercial implementations of AppleTalk for the > NeXT? If so, any information -- functionality of product, name & phone > number of company, etc. -- would be greatly appreciated! > According to a very old NeXTWORLD I have over here, there is (was?) a product called uShare, which turned you NeXT into an AppleTalk server. Here's the info: Information Presentation Technologies 555 Choro St., St. A San Luis Obispo, CA 93401 805/541-3000 info@iptech.com Hope this helps, Annard -- Give me enough bandwidth and I can transmit the earth. - Annard Brouwer annard@stack.urc.tue.nl (NeXTmail appreciated)
From: annard@theborg.stack.urc.tue.nl (Annard Brouwer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: newest WWW-software for NEXTSTEP? Date: 25 Oct 1993 21:45:50 GMT Organization: the Borg Distribution: world Message-ID: <2ahhee$gj@theborg.stack.urc.tue.nl> Hello world, Does anybody know if there is someone working on a new version of WWW software for NEXTSTEP? I have been playing with some very old versions but they leave a lot to be desired... Is source-code available? This program could really be a great example of the superiority of NEXTSTEP! Toodlepip, Annard -- Give me enough bandwidth and I can transmit the earth. - Annard Brouwer annard@stack.urc.tue.nl (NeXTmail appreciated)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: atownley@cs.umr.edu (Andrew S. Townley) Subject: Why? (was:Re: CHINESE WATER TORTURE = File transfer to DOS...) References: <1993Oct25.191518.943@alw.nih.gov> Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1993 02:12:37 GMT Organization: University of Missouri-Rolla, Missouri's Technological University Sender: cnews@umr.edu (UMR Usenet News Administration) Message-ID: <1993Oct26.021237.9142@umr.edu> In article <1993Oct25.191518.943@alw.nih.gov> smith@nextone.niehs.nih.gov (Howard C. Smith) writes: > In article <29pc7l$puc@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> lones@lones.mit.edu (Lones A. > Smith) writes: > > Hi, > > I am trying to download a zillion pk files to my laptop, which > > unfortunately is DOS based. I just can't do it. I have tried unix commands > > Try this: > You'll have to modify the source and destination directories > of course... > > -------------------------- copydos.csh ---------- ----------------- [stuff deleted ] > -- > Howard C. Smith > smith@nextone.niehs.nih.gov Why on earth did NeXT break this nice feature of 2.1 for 3.x? I used to do this all the time. I have gotten so pissed off at having to rename files to get them to be splatted to a DOS disk that I was wondering if there was a way to make a Workspace module that would intercept that damn error message and make the appropriate change for me automagikly. I'm sure this was discussed before, but I missed it because I upgraded from 2.1 -> 3.1 about three weeks ago. I was really just curious as to the motivati on that made such fixes thoughtfully posted by Mr. Smith necessary. Regards, Andrew -- Andrew S. Townley Voice: 314-364-7244 1705 Pine Street FAX: 314-364-8471 Rolla, MO 65401 email: atownley@cs.umr.edu. I want to instantiate a new GraphicsObject which I'm loading with the values of the old one and then returning the duplicateObject. Pretty straightforward, r
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Quick Guide to the comp.sys.next.* newsgroups Date: 25 Oct 1993 23:54:01 -0400 Organization: Next Announcements Message-ID: <2ai70m$787@digifix.digifix.com> The current menagerie: comp.sys.next.advocacy This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. comp.sys.next.announce Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) The NEXTSTEP FAQs are posted here monthly as well. This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. comp.sys.next.bugs A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well. comp.sys.next.hardware Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. comp.sys.next.marketplace NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. comp.sys.next.misc For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! comp.sys.next.programmer Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. The NEXTSTEP programmer FAQs are posted here. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. comp.sys.next.software This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. comp.sys.next.sysadmin Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. related Newsgroups comp.soft-sys.nextstep Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. comp.lang.objective-c Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. comp.object Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep-d next-advocacy-d next-announce-d next-bugs-d next-hardware-d next-marketplace-d next-misc-d next-programmer-d next-software-d next-sysadmin-d (For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to <digestif@antigone.com>). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's. To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying: SUB Listname YourName Example: SUB next-hardware-d John Doe -------------------------------------------------------------------- Written by: Eric P. Scott eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU Minor editing: Scott Anguish sanguish@digifix.com Additions from: Greg Anderson (Greg_Anderson@afs.com) and Michael Pizolato (Michael_Pizolato@afs.com)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: baday@nero.rice.edu (Brad Allen Day 216Cox x3545) Subject: How to use FSF GCC with 3.1(2) User Version? Message-ID: <CFHJrI.Jv2@rice.edu> Sender: news@rice.edu (News) Organization: Rice University Distribution: usa Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1993 03:45:17 GMT I have run into the need (desire) to upgrade from a complete version of NeXTSTEP 3.0 to a 3.1(2) user version on black hardware. I have a need to periodically use the C-compiler to generate ansi C code, but can not readily justify the cost of a full developer version of 3.1(2). Question: Can one obtain the FSF GCC compiler and use it in conjunction with the user version of 3.1(2) and have the ability to program in ansi C? If the answer to the above question is yes, does anyone have additional information as to how to go about setting things up? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Please send e-mail to baday@nero.rice.edu and I will gladly summarize if there is interest. Brad Day -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Brad A. Day Department of Mechanical Engineering Research Assistant and Materials Science baday@rice.edu Rice University
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) Subject: Emacs 19 under NS natively (was: Get events without [NXApp run]?) In-Reply-To: sowa@amdew.llnl.gov's message of 25 Oct 1993 18:38:54 GMT To: sowa@amdew.llnl.gov (Erik C. Sowa) Message-ID: <CEDMAN.93Oct25154204@capitalist.princeton.edu> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University References: <1993Oct24.225053.125583@embl-heidelberg.de> <CEDMAN.93Oct24214909@capitalist.princeton.edu> <SOWA.93Oct25113854@amdew.llnl.gov> Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1993 19:42:04 GMT In article <SOWA.93Oct25113854@amdew.llnl.gov> sowa@amdew.llnl.gov (Erik C. Sowa) writes: >>>>> "Carl" == Carl Edman <cedman@princeton.edu> writes: Carl> we ported Emacs 19.19 to run under NS natively. Do tell. Not much to tell. Michael Brouwer and I ported emacs 19.19 to run under NS just as it does under X. It works. Multiple windows/multiple fonts/mouse support aso. are all there. Even most X based modes like hilit19.el and others work without modification. You can even compile a single binary which brings up a NS emacs when double-clicked in the workspace, an X emacs when started from an xterm and just the standard curses based emacs otherwise. I've been using it for months as my primary editor without crashes or other problems. I'm even posting this from a GNUS running in its own emacs window. The reason it is not on the archives yet is that the Free Software Foundation and Richard Stallman consider our NeXT port a nuisance at best and have refused to accept our code. (No, it is very modular, doesn't break any existing X code and is smaller in total size than e.g. the VMS support code). Neither Michael nor I have the time to create new NS patches in parallel to the patch of the week for emacs. If emacs for NS ever becomes publicly available we'll be sure to make a post to comp.sys.next.announce. Sorry, Carl Edman
Control: cancel <1993Oct26.093704.20028@iitmax.iit.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bebeada@elof.acc.iit.edu (Adam Beberg) Subject: cancel Message-ID: <1993Oct26.093745.7044@iitmax.iit.edu> Sender: news@iitmax.iit.edu (News) Organization: Illinois Institute of Technology / Academic Computing Center Date: Tue, 26 Oct 93 09:37:45 GMT <1993Oct26.093704.20028@iitmax.iit.edu> was cancelled from within trn. -- - Adam Beberg. Golden Sphinx (tm) bebeada@elof.iit.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bebeada@elof.acc.iit.edu (Adam Beberg) Subject: Wanted: Truetype -> NeXT fonts... Message-ID: <1993Oct26.094123.8167@iitmax.iit.edu> Summary: convert Truetype to NeXT useable fonts... Sender: news@iitmax.iit.edu (News) Organization: Illinois Institute of Technology, Chicago Date: Tue, 26 Oct 93 09:41:23 GMT Greetings... I would like to be able to use my Truetype fonts, on a NeXT ( black HW running NS 3.1 ). 1. Is this possible? 2. What software do i need to convert them if possible? Thanks in advance, please reply via E-Mail... - Adam Beberg. Golden Sphinx (tm) bebeada@elof.iit.edu NeXTMail Welcome. ))) In Sterio Where Available (((
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) Subject: Re: Mail Preprocessor that will correct UUNECODED files to NeXTMail In-Reply-To: ron@jaws.nosc.mil's message of Mon, 25 Oct 1993 14:47:59 GMT To: ron@jaws.nosc.mil (Ron Broersma) Message-ID: <CEDMAN.93Oct25162726@capitalist.princeton.edu> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University References: <CEDMAN.93Oct22193815@capitalist.princeton.edu> <1993Oct25.144759.1420@nosc.mil> Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1993 20:27:26 GMT In article <1993Oct25.144759.1420@nosc.mil> ron@jaws.nosc.mil (Ron Broersma) writes: I cannot have sendmail do the job for the following reasons. The translation process cannot happen before you put incoming mail into /usr/spool/mail/user. The reason is (for us) because we have more than NeXTmail users on our server. Some read mail using elm, msg, Mail, and various pop clients. If we translate to NeXTmail too early, then users of these other mail agents will get the translated version, which we don't want. So, it has to be done as part of MailFetch or later, not before. I see your problem, but every user has his own procmail filters. Poor deluded souls who use elm, msg or Mail, just wouldn't put the automatic translation into their ~/.procmailrc files. > A better solution is to install procmail. In addition to its many > other powerful mail handling capabilities adding a little filter which > transforms uuencoded mail to NeXTmail should only be a matter of a few > lines of shell script. I'm not familiar with procmail. The most useful program on the net for people who use mail a lot. Always find the latest version at ftp.informatik.rwth-aachen.de in pub/unix. Carl Edman
From: jhermann@node_24045.dadd.ti.com (John Hermann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: ShareWare game: SpaceWar.app Date: 26 Oct 1993 12:52:12 GMT Organization: Design Automation Division, Texas Instruments. Message-ID: <2aj6hs$iv7@barracuda.dadd.ti.com> Summary: Is this game worth $5? Keywords: game space war I was wondering if anyone has tried the game SpaceWar.app that is located on cs.orst.edu It is a ShareWare program that costs $5. Is it worth $5?
From: reuven@athena.mit.edu (Reuven Lerner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Emacs 19 under NS natively (was: Get events without [NXApp run]?) Date: 26 Oct 1993 14:17:32 GMT Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology Message-ID: <REUVEN.93Oct26101733@alexander-hamilton.mit.edu> References: <1993Oct24.225053.125583@embl-heidelberg.de> <CEDMAN.93Oct24214909@capitalist.princeton.edu> <SOWA.93Oct25113854@amdew.llnl.gov> <CEDMAN.93Oct25154204@capitalist.princeton.edu> In-reply-to: cedman@princeton.edu's message of Mon, 25 Oct 1993 19:42:04 GMT >>>>> On Mon, 25 Oct 1993 19:42:04 GMT, cedman@princeton.edu (Carl >>>>> Edman) said: Carl> Michael Brouwer and I ported emacs 19.19 to run under NS just Carl> as it does under X. It works. Carl> Neither Michael nor I have the time to create new NS patches Carl> in parallel to the patch of the week for emacs. I wouldn't presume to speak for everyone, but I certainly wouldn't mind using an "outdated" version of Emacs 19. So what if it's not the absolute latest version? Reuven
From: perkins@sidney.cps.msu.edu (Stephen Perkins) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Emacs 19 under NS natively (was: Get events without [NXApp run]?) Date: 26 Oct 1993 16:04:37 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Distribution: world Message-ID: <2ajhql$smt@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> References: <REUVEN.93Oct26101733@alexander-hamilton.mit.edu> In article <REUVEN.93Oct26101733@alexander-hamilton.mit.edu> reuven@athena.mit.edu (Reuven Lerner) writes: > >>>>> On Mon, 25 Oct 1993 19:42:04 GMT, cedman@princeton.edu (Carl > >>>>> Edman) said: > > Carl> Michael Brouwer and I ported emacs 19.19 to run under NS just > Carl> as it does under X. It works. > > Carl> Neither Michael nor I have the time to create new NS patches > Carl> in parallel to the patch of the week for emacs. > > I wouldn't presume to speak for everyone, but I certainly wouldn't > mind using an "outdated" version of Emacs 19. So what if it's not > the absolute latest version? > > Reuven I'd love to see it also! - Steve ==================================================================== Stephen Perkins | Department of Computer Science | perkins@cps.msu.edu Michigan State University |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: magnus@fisher.Stanford.EDU (Magnus Nordborg) Subject: Re: Emacs 19 under NS natively (was: Get events without [NXApp run]?) Message-ID: <1993Oct26.164828.29667@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: Stanford University References: <CEDMAN.93Oct25154204@capitalist.princeton.edu> Date: Tue, 26 Oct 93 16:48:28 GMT In article <CEDMAN.93Oct25154204@capitalist.princeton.edu> cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes: > In article <SOWA.93Oct25113854@amdew.llnl.gov> sowa@amdew.llnl.gov (Erik C. Sowa) writes: > >>>>> "Carl" == Carl Edman <cedman@princeton.edu> writes: > > Carl> we ported Emacs 19.19 to run under NS natively. > > Do tell. > > Not much to tell. Michael Brouwer and I ported emacs 19.19 to run > under NS just as it does under X. It works. Multiple > windows/multiple fonts/mouse support aso. are all there. Even most X > based modes like hilit19.el and others work without modification. You > can even compile a single binary which brings up a NS emacs when > double-clicked in the workspace, an X emacs when started from an xterm > and just the standard curses based emacs otherwise. I've been using > it for months as my primary editor without crashes or other problems. > I'm even posting this from a GNUS running in its own emacs window. > > The reason it is not on the archives yet is that the Free Software > Foundation and Richard Stallman consider our NeXT port a nuisance at > best and have refused to accept our code. (No, it is very modular, > doesn't break any existing X code and is smaller in total size than > e.g. the VMS support code). Neither Michael nor I have the time to > create new NS patches in parallel to the patch of the week for emacs. > If emacs for NS ever becomes publicly available we'll be sure to make > a post to comp.sys.next.announce. > > Sorry, > Carl Edman I would also not mind using an outdated Emacs 19 if that is what it takes. But do you think there is anything we could do to convince Richard Stallman? We could at least start to collect names... Does anyone know which version of Emacs is in 3.2? Maybe NeXT could be convinced to patch it up to that version? I still think it is strange that NeXT support would be a problem given the existence of VMS support. Maybe we should bring this up on gnu.misc.discuss? -- Magnus Nordborg magnus@fisher.stanford.edu (NeXT mail preferred) Department of Biological Sciences Stanford University Stanford, CA 94305-5020 +1 (415) 723-4952 (office)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.marketplace From: westes@netcom.com (Will Estes) Subject: Medical Applications For NeXT? Message-ID: <westesCFIGMJ.IGt@netcom.com> Organization: Mail Group Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1993 15:35:07 GMT I'm looking for commercial applications, or NeXT systems integrators, with a focus on medical and clinical care systems: medical records, scheduling, patient care, etc. If you know of existing NeXT applications or projects in this area, could you please post or send me some mail? -- Will Estes Internet: westes@netcom.com
From: jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Joseph W Reiss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Emacs 19 under NS natively (was: Get events without [NXApp run]?) Date: 26 Oct 1993 17:52:25 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <2ajo4p$3kj@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> References: <CEDMAN.93Oct25154204@capitalist.princeton.edu> <1993Oct26.164828.29667@leland.Stanford.EDU> "Carl" == Carl Edman <cedman@princeton.edu> writes: > we ported Emacs 19.19 to run under NS natively. Chalk up one more member of the growing contingent of NeXT users who'd love to see this put out into public access. Number one, I wouldn't mind putting up with slightly out of date software myself. Number two, if the source code is released along with it (and according to the GNU Manifesto, I believe it would have to be), then maybe someone else in the NeXT community with a little more time could work on keeping the source up to date with new patches. Maybe it could even become a community project kinda thing. In short... release it, PLEASE!!! Pretty PLEEEEEEEEEEASE, with sugar and a cherry on top! PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEASE!!! Joe :-) -- __________ | NeXTMail? We can do NeXTMail!!! | |___) | """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" \_/OE | \EISS | The addition of a witty remark to a .SIG is illogical. `---- | Nevertheless, it is a fascinating concept worth study.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software From: speters@samsun.us.oracle.com (Stephen Peters) Subject: Re: Emacs 19 under NS natively (was: Get events without [NXApp run]?) In-Reply-To: reuven@athena.mit.edu's message of 26 Oct 1993 14:17:32 GMT Message-ID: <SPETERS.93Oct26105228@samsun.us.oracle.com> Sender: usenet@oracle.us.oracle.com (Oracle News Poster) Organization: Oracle Corporation., Redwood City, CA, USA References: <1993Oct24.225053.125583@embl-heidelberg.de> <CEDMAN.93Oct24214909@capitalist.princeton.edu> <SOWA.93Oct25113854@amdew.llnl.gov> <CEDMAN.93Oct25154204@capitalist.princeton.edu> <REUVEN.93Oct26101733@alexander-hamilton.mit.edu> Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1993 17:52:27 GMT at Oracle Corporation. The opinions expressed are those of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle. In article <REUVEN.93Oct26101733@alexander-hamilton.mit.edu> reuven@athena.mit.edu (Reuven Lerner) writes: > >>>>> On Mon, 25 Oct 1993 19:42:04 GMT, cedman@princeton.edu (Carl > >>>>> Edman) said: > Carl> Michael Brouwer and I ported emacs 19.19 to run under NS just > Carl> as it does under X. It works. > Carl> Neither Michael nor I have the time to create new NS patches > Carl> in parallel to the patch of the week for emacs. > I wouldn't presume to speak for everyone, but I certainly wouldn't > mind using an "outdated" version of Emacs 19. So what if it's not the > absolute latest version? Same here. 19.19 is quite stable, frankly -- I don't see any pressing needs to worry about future revisions just yet. Make source available (since that's the GNU way :-), and add a note saying that you will not be able to actively support it in parallel to the standard moving-target GNU releases. Who knows? Get enough people using the NS Emacs version and there's no telling what can happen -- maybe someone else can pick up the support of it. Stephen Peters
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: heinle@cmf.nrl.navy.mil (Glenn Heinle) Subject: Re: Emacs 19 under NS natively (was: Get events without [NXApp run]?) Message-ID: <CFIsB5.vp@ra.nrl.navy.mil> Sender: usenet@ra.nrl.navy.mil Organization: Naval Research Lab, Washington, DC References: <2ajo4p$3kj@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1993 19:47:28 GMT In article <2ajo4p$3kj@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Joseph W Reiss) writes: > "Carl" == Carl Edman <cedman@princeton.edu> writes: > > we ported Emacs 19.19 to run under NS natively. > > In short... release it, PLEASE!!! Pretty PLEEEEEEEEEEASE, with sugar > and a cherry on top! PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEASE!!! > ditto
From: ernest@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu (Ernest Prabhakar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Emacs 19 under NS natively Date: 26 Oct 1993 20:33:38 GMT Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena Distribution: world Message-ID: <2ak1j3$q0p@gap.cco.caltech.edu> References: <1993Oct26.164828.29667@leland.Stanford.EDU> In article <1993Oct26.164828.29667@leland.Stanford.EDU> magnus@fisher.Stanford.EDU (Magnus Nordborg) writes: > In article <CEDMAN.93Oct25154204@capitalist.princeton.edu> > cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes: > > Not much to tell. Michael Brouwer and I ported emacs 19.19 to run > > under NS just as it does under X. It works. > > The reason it is not on the archives yet is that the Free Software > > Foundation and Richard Stallman consider our NeXT port a nuisance > > at best and have refused to accept our code. > But do you think there is anything we could do to convince Richard > Stallman? We could at least start to collect names... > I still think it is strange that NeXT support would be a problem > given the > existence of VMS support. Maybe we should bring this up on > gnu.misc.discuss? I understand that if the FSF objects, we can't put Carl's version (NeXmacs?) on their archives. However, is there anything to prevent you from putting your hacked version on a separate archives, as long as you include source? Or could you even just create a "diff" set of patches which could be applied to version 19.19 (or possibly later)? I also agree with Marcus this issue might be worth taking up through other channels. Richard Stallman, last I checked, is not necessarily the definitive policy maker for the FSF. It is possible that you caught him on a bad day, or rubbed him the wrong way. I think the VMS analogy is a good one: They don't support it, but they don't mind distributing the patches if someone else provides them. So, a) anybody with a good relationship with RMS want to check this again (Simpson? Dan?) b) Should we try to open a discussion on gnu.misc.discuss? Any FSF members out there who could do that with more credibility? Is there a better public forum? c) Does anybody know exactly how they provide VMS compatibility? Are there some rules or restrictions we should be aware of? d) Is part of the issue having someone to provide support, and make sure the patches are up to date? Are there any volunteers? NeXT? Scott? Don (could we make this part of MiscKit?!?!)? e) In the meantime, would Carl consider putting the stuff on the archives, so other people can try to push it? Are there any legal restrictions to doing so? f) Should we setup a mailing list to coordinate all these activities, as well as perhaps future development? I'd do it myself, but I'm leaving the country next week. :-( Here's to a windowful future for Emacs under NeXTSTEP? -- Ernie P. ------ Ernest N. Prabhakar Caltech High Energy Physics Member, League for Programming Freedom (league@prep.ai.mit.edu) CaJUN President NeXTMail:ernest@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu "...and ourselves, your servants for Jesus sake." - II Cor 4:5b #import <std/disclaimer.h>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: heberlei@cs.ucdavis.edu (Louis Todd Heberlein) Subject: SoftPC for Motorola HW Message-ID: <CFIu19.3sr@ucdavis.edu> Keywords: SoftPC motorola Sender: usenet@ucdavis.edu (News Administrator) Organization: University of California, Davis Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1993 20:24:44 GMT In a recent NeXT press release, NeXT went on and on about SoftPC for the Intel version of NeXTSTEP but said nothing about SoftPC and NeXTSTEP for Motorola. I was initially very disappointed as I was looking forward to investing quite a bit in software upgrades (from 3.0 to 3.2, Cub'X for X apps, SoftPC combined with Microsoft Office or the Lotus Suite). The goal being to build a complete solution in one system (NeXT, X, and Windows). I could finally get my Mac SE/30 off my desk and take it home. However, I called SoftPC today, and they said they would support NeXTSTEP 3.2 for Motorola hardware!! Has anyone had any experience with their software? How well will it work with the Microsoft or Lotus integrated packages? Has NeXT forgotten people still run NEXTSTEP on NeXTstations? Thanks, Todd Heberlein heberlei@cs.ucdavis.edu
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: CHINESE WATER TORTURE = File transfer to DOS diskettes ("File name too long!") Date: 26 Oct 1993 21:37:50 GMT Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office Message-ID: <2ak5be$8lg@news.mic.ucla.edu> References: <29pc7l$puc@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> <1993Oct25.191518.943@alw.nih.gov> Is there a copy (cp) command that works on subdirectories, and handles the file name translation problem to DOS (i.e., intelligent 8+3 naming)? Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu Asst Prof of Finance iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu AGSM at UCLA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: cew@quark.Stanford.EDU (Carlin E. Wiegner) Subject: Having a couple of problems with Cub'X Message-ID: <1993Oct26.214247.12689@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: Stanford University Date: Tue, 26 Oct 93 21:42:47 GMT I'm having a couple problems with Cub'X.... I can't get it to actually run X Windows....I hit Command-r and the cursor spins and then the dialog box pops up that says I can run Cub'X again by pressing Command-r again. I'm trying to run it in interactive mode..... Second of all, I got it to run once in take-over (outside NeXTSTEP) mode and tried to run netrek and all it said was the font 6X10 missing. How can I check if this is true? CW
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Scott Byer <byer@mv.us.adobe.com> Subject: Emacs 3.0 tweaks anyone? Message-ID: <1993Oct26.214631.3350@adobe.com> Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS) Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1993 21:46:31 GMT I've got an Emacs 3.0 with some small tweaks, and I wanted to see if anyone was interested. I can't upload from here, so some kind soul would have to accept NeXTMail and upload it for me. The tweaks are: - Two-way services now work. I got tired of having Emacs crash on me everytime I accidently hit CMD-something. Plus, it lets you do some really funky things with TickleServices. - I added a Listener that can take openFile:onHost:atTrueLine: messages. Those are the kind Project Builder spits out when you click on a compile error. I got tired of ending up in an editor which didn't know indenting from tabs :-). (PB in 3.1 has the editor as a preference - simply set it to Emacs and go.) (Click on an error, and the right file will open up, and the overlay arrow will point at the right place.) - Mouse responsiveness is better. As you drag, the cursor will follow the mouse, and then snap back to the point when done. Really makes cut and pasting a lot nicer. Although, with a native emacs19, I don't know how many people would want this... (I've also got a tweaked MonterShelf which optionally uses the AppBackground tile - makes the appearence much nicer. The e-mail address for the author in the info panel seems to be bogus...) -- Scott Byer NeXTMail: byer@mv.us.adobe.com Adobe Systems Incorporated These are *my* opinions, and 1585 Charleston Road, P.O. Box 7900 do not necessarily reflect Mountain View, CA 94039-7900 the opinions of my employer. ---------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: silbar@cantina.lanl.gov (Dick Silbar) Subject: a curious thing about BoinkOut Message-ID: <1993Oct26.185551.12854@newshost.lanl.gov> Sender: news@newshost.lanl.gov Organization: Los Alamos National Lab Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1993 18:55:51 GMT I have been using the BoinkOut.app in demo mode to 'burn in' the new Intel computers. Funny thing happens whenever one gets the permanent blocks in an "S" formation. (Remember, the one with the two moving blocks that guard the entrance to the insides of the "S".) It is almost invariably the case that the UPPER cavity (the one facing east) gets cleared out before the LOWER cavity (facing west). There seems to be something in the algorithm that makes it much harder to get a bouncing ball on the inside from the west! -- Dick Silbar WhistleSoft, Inc. NeXTMail: silbar@cantina.lanl.gov
From: annard@theborg.stack.urc.tue.nl (Annard Brouwer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Librarian topics Date: 26 Oct 1993 10:53:47 GMT Organization: the Borg Distribution: world Message-ID: <2aivjr$a3@theborg.stack.urc.tue.nl> References: <vfr750CFFyKq.7KE@netcom.com> In article <vfr750CFFyKq.7KE@netcom.com> vfr750@netcom.com (Will Hartung) writes: > Maybe I'm confused, but I seem to recall, maybe long ago, that there > was a way for Digital Librarian to display a subject or summary along > with the file name after you've done a search or a List Titles. > So, I'm wondering: > a) Am I hallucinating? Did this ever happen? > b) If 'a' is Yes, what little thing do I have to do to the file > to get the topic/summary line to show up? This seems to be a real problem. Here are the answers (only for 3.1): a) Not about this subject, yes it did! b) Wait for 3.2 or go back to 3.0, it's a bug which NeXT has admitted (or so I believe). It's a real miss especially with manual pages... Annard -- Give me enough bandwidth and I can transmit the earth. - Annard Brouwer annard@stack.urc.tue.nl (NeXTmail appreciated)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: esprit@netcom.com (Alan F. Perry) Subject: What fax modems will work with FaxReader in 3.0? Message-ID: <espritCFJ5E8.G9I@netcom.com> Organization: /dev/null Software Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1993 00:30:08 GMT Excuse me if this is a newbie question, but I guess I am a NeXT newbie. I noticed there is an app called "FaxReader" or something on my system running 3.0. What kind of hardware do I need to use this? Just any old FAX modem? I tried RTFM'ing for an answer, but can't seem to find the info. -- ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Alan F. Perry | Life is short, but by achieving greater speeds esprit@netcom.com (home) | a man can make his life a little longer and allan@lynx.com (work) | more affluent - Soichiro Honda
From: matthewm@sgate.com (Mike Matthews) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: WordPerfect Date: 26 Oct 1993 10:11:53 -0400 Organization: Collins International Services Company Message-ID: <2ajb79$onp@sgate.com> References: <1993Oct22.202636.21172@leland.Stanford.EDU> <1993Oct25.194450.29255@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> In article <1993Oct25.194450.29255@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> clarance@nshade.uah.ualberta.ca (Clarance Howatt) writes: >I just heard today that WordPerfect has "frozen" all development for >NEXTSTEP. Is this true? What does this mean to NEXTSTEP (can a >platform survive without a proven popular word processor?) It has so far... I wouldn't call WordPerfect on NEXTSTEP "proven" for any seriously positive adjective... Which is why products like WriteUp and ExactlyWrite have a pretty good shot at filling a large market hole. ... As long as they're compatible with the WP file format, that is. >Clarance Howatt ------ Mike Matthews, Mike_Matthews@sgate.com (NeXTmail accepted) ------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Scanning/OCR software Message-ID: <1993Oct26.125919.2638@cc.usu.edu> From: hcole@tumbleweed.nrcabq.com (Howard R. Cole) Date: 26 Oct 93 12:59:19 MDT Distribution: usa Does anyone have any experience with the error rate of the various OCR software packages available, eg OCR Servant and eXTRAREAD. Is either of these much better than the other? -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Howard Cole | Nichols Research Corp. | hcole@tumbleweed.nrcabq.com 2201 Buena Vista SE | Suite 203 | "I'd give my right arm Albuquerque, NM 87106 | to be ambidextrous" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: ggerard@Alex.Engr.Trinity.Edu (Greg Gerard) Subject: Where is a JPEG viewer for NS/i? Message-ID: <1993Oct27.030535.4581@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> Sender: news@ringer.cs.utsa.edu Organization: Trinity University, San Antonio TX. USA Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1993 03:05:35 GMT could not find anything that looked appropriate on the archives. thanks, greg
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jpw@sansfoy.lib.virginia.edu (John Price-Wilkin) Subject: compiling fat binaries Message-ID: <CFIpts.7pF@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU Organization: University of Virginia Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1993 18:53:52 GMT Sorry this question is so braindead, but can someone tell me what the process is for compiling fat binaries under 3.1? I've done a complete install and used the option for both Intel and Black. When I did a make on something I'd compiled under 3.0, I thought that I would automagically end up with something that would run on both platforms. Not so. So, is there a simple-minded solution for this simple-minded approach? John Price-Wilkin jpw@virginia.edud Black. When I did a make on something I'd compiled under 3.0, I thought that I would automagically end up with something that would run on both platforms.
From: Robert.Claeson@sweden.dg.com (Robert Claeson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Wanted: Truetype -> NeXT fonts... Date: 27 Oct 1993 08:42:39 GMT Organization: Data General AB, Stockholm, Sweden Distribution: world Message-ID: <2alc9v$dvo@dgswe.sweden.dg.com> References: <1993Oct26.094123.8167@iitmax.iit.edu> Adam Beberg writes > Greetings... > > I would like to be able to use my Truetype fonts, on a NeXT > ( black HW running NS 3.1 ). > > 1. Is this possible? > 2. What software do i need to convert them if possible? How 'bout bugging NeXT to include a TrueType renderer in NEXTSTEP? Nah... -- Robert Claeson, Data General AB, Box 28, S-164 93 KISTA, Sweden Email: Robert.Claeson@sweden.dg.com X.400: G=Robert; S=Claeson; P=Data General; A=400net; C=SE Tel: +46 (0)8-92 55 00 Fax: +46 (0)8-751 36 22
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore) Subject: Re: Emacs 19 under NS natively (was: Get events without [NXApp run]?) Message-ID: <CFJ36I.8B@genoa.com> Sender: alex@genoa.com (Alex Blakemore) Organization: Genoa Software Systems References: <REUVEN.93Oct26101733@alexander-hamilton.mit.edu> Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1993 23:42:18 GMT cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) said: > Michael Brouwer and I ported emacs 19.19 to run under NS > Neither Michael nor I have the time to create new NS patches > in parallel to the patch of the week for emacs. Reuven Lerner writes > I wouldn't presume to speak for everyone, but I certainly wouldn't > mind using an "outdated" version of Emacs 19. Carl, First, I agree with Reuven, let us use the outdated version please. It will certainly be more up to date than NeXT's latest release. Second, If FSF won't accept your changes, why not donate then to NeXT? They can then maintain them and upgrade to the latest emacs with each release. That way everyone wins. -- Alex Blakemore alex@cs.umd.edu NeXT mail accepted
From: martin@hagi.noguchi.riec.tohoku.ac.jp (martin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NEmacs Date: 27 Oct 93 20:13:47 Organization: Shiratori Lab., Tohoku Univ., Sendai, Japan Distribution: comp Message-ID: <MARTIN.93Oct27201347@hagi.noguchi.riec.tohoku.ac.jp> Hi everybody, Here a question from the small group of people that use NS-J 3.0, the japanese version of NextStep. All I would like to know is the name of a ftp site, where I can get NEmacs, i.e. the japanese version of Emacs from. Preferably, I would like to use the one with the nice NextStep frontend. I would also be happy, if it was a complete package or, even better, the binary. Thanks for you help, Martin -- ************************************************************************* //\/ phone: +81-22-227-6200 ext.341 // o Martin Moser fax: +81-22-263-9848 email: martin@noguchi.riec.tohoku.ac.jp 980 Aoba-ku, 2-1-1 Katahira, Tohoku University, Shiratori Lab., Japan *************************************************************************
From: martin@momiji.noguchi.riec.tohoku.ac.jp (martin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Software list Date: 27 Oct 93 20:58:59 Organization: Shiratori Lab., Tohoku Univ., Sendai, Japan Distribution: comp Message-ID: <MARTIN.93Oct27205859@momiji.noguchi.riec.tohoku.ac.jp> Hello folks, Is there any commented list of at least some of the public domain software available for the Next? (I find it very annoying to load down megabytes, only because the name of most of the stuff exhibits little about its functionality.) Furthermore, is there currently any version of X11R5 for the Next in the public domain? (Is there a X11R5 version of XNext? If yes, where?) Thanks to everybody for your answer, Martin -- ************************************************************************* //\/ phone: +81-22-227-6200 ext.341 // o Martin Moser fax: +81-22-263-9848 email: martin@noguchi.riec.tohoku.ac.jp 980 Aoba-ku, 2-1-1 Katahira, Tohoku University, Shiratori Lab., Japan *************************************************************************
Sender: news@stasys.sta.sub.org From: ram@ramsys.sta.sub.org (Reimer A. Mellin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Emacs 19 under NS natively Date: 27 Oct 1993 06:34:12 GMT Organization: at home Distribution: world Message-ID: <2al4p4$3p1@ramsys.sta.sub.org> References: <2ak1j3$q0p@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Ernest Prabhakar writes > In article <1993Oct26.164828.29667@leland.Stanford.EDU> > magnus@fisher.Stanford.EDU (Magnus Nordborg) writes: > > In article <CEDMAN.93Oct25154204@capitalist.princeton.edu> > > cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes: > > > Not much to tell. Michael Brouwer and I ported emacs 19.19 to run > > > under NS just as it does under X. It works. > > > > The reason it is not on the archives yet is that the Free Software > > > Foundation and Richard Stallman consider our NeXT port a nuisance > > > at best and have refused to accept our code. > I understand that if the FSF objects, we can't put Carl's version > (NeXmacs?) on their archives. However, is there anything to prevent > you from putting your hacked version on a separate archives, as long as > you include source? Or could you even just create a "diff" set of > patches which could be applied to version 19.19 (or possibly later)? Getting your port included into the FSF distribution is quite a different thing from putting your port onto the archives, as long as you include your SOURCE ! When I ported some GNUish stuff some years ago for OS-9, nobody hindered me to distribute it in SOURCE and for FREE (see GNU license). Thats the whole idea behind GNU. Alas, I can not think of any reasons why carl could not put his sources onto the archives. But of cause nobody can force him to do it :-) The bad thing of not getting included into the official distribtution is the hunt for applying the monthly/weekly/daily/hourly patches. This is annoying! Take care Reimer --- Q: "Whats a TLA?" A:"A cafu!?" Reimer A. Mellin, ram@ramsys.sta.sub.org Aidenbachstr. 131/6, 81479 Muenchen, + 49 89 7849411
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) Subject: Re: Emacs 19 under NS natively (was: Get events without [NXApp run]?) In-Reply-To: magnus@fisher.Stanford.EDU's message of Tue, 26 Oct 93 16:48:28 GMT To: magnus@fisher.Stanford.EDU (Magnus Nordborg) Message-ID: <CEDMAN.93Oct26170714@capitalist.princeton.edu> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University References: <CEDMAN.93Oct25154204@capitalist.princeton.edu> <1993Oct26.164828.29667@leland.Stanford.EDU> Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1993 21:07:14 GMT In article <1993Oct26.164828.29667@leland.Stanford.EDU> magnus@fisher.Stanford.EDU (Magnus Nordborg) writes: I would also not mind using an outdated Emacs 19 if that is what it takes. Actually, emacs 19.19 is still the latest public release. But it is also clearly still in development with features like support for proportional and variable size fonts half implemented. Considering how useful these would be in particular in a NS environment, I wouldn't want to condemn emacs for NS to be emacs 19.19 for ever. But do you think there is anything we could do to convince Richard Stallman? We could at least start to collect names... I would have suggested it if I believed that it has any chance of success whatsoever. But given RMS personality if he gets the impression that we or anyone on the net is trying to put organized pressure on him, he is less likely to support NS. Does anyone know which version of Emacs is in 3.2? No, but I doubt that NeXT will go with emacs 19 yet. Probably it will be emacs 18.59, once again. Maybe NeXT could be convinced to patch it up to that version? If NeXT was willing to do that and distribute the code, I (and I think Michael as well) would be only too happy to let them have it. But then I don't think that NeXT wants to put their own Edit.app out of business just yet. :-) I still think it is strange that NeXT support would be a problem given the existence of VMS support. Maybe we should bring this up on gnu.misc.discuss? Feel free to. But as I said I don't have much hope that anything will be able to convince RMS to change his stand. Carl Edman
Control: cancel <1993Oct27.143605.5010@altsys.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: lorinr@altsys.com (Lorin Rivers III) Subject: cmsg cancel <1993Oct27.143605.5010@altsys.com> Message-ID: <1993Oct27.144045.5146@altsys.com> Sender: lorinr@altsys.com (Lorin Rivers III) Organization: Altsys Corporation, Richardson, TX References: <1993Oct26.094123.8167@iitmax.iit.edu> <1993Oct27.143605.5010@altsys.com> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1993 14:40:45 GMT <1993Oct27.143605.5010@altsys.com> was cancelled from within trn. -- Lorin Rivers Lorin_Rivers@altsys.com NEXTSTEP Sales Manager 214.680.2060 269 W. Renner Parkway NeXT Mail Expected Richardson, Texas 75080 I said it, not my boss
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: lorinr@altsys.com (Lorin Rivers III) Subject: Re: Wanted: Truetype -> NeXT fonts... Message-ID: <1993Oct27.144244.5256@altsys.com> Organization: Altsys Corporation, Richardson, TX References: <1993Oct26.094123.8167@iitmax.iit.edu> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1993 14:42:44 GMT In article <1993Oct26.094123.8167@iitmax.iit.edu> bebeada@elof.acc.iit.edu (Adam Beberg) writes: >Greetings... > >I would like to be able to use my Truetype fonts, on a NeXT >( black HW running NS 3.1 ). > >1. Is this possible? >2. What software do i need to convert them if possible? > >Thanks in advance, please reply via E-Mail... >- > Adam Beberg. > Golden Sphinx (tm) > bebeada@elof.iit.edu > NeXTMail Welcome. > ))) In Sterio Where Available ((( > Your only option (that I'm aware of) is Metamorphosis Professional from Altsys. Note, however, TrueType fonts are poor candidates for conversion to Type 1. It has to do with the number of points defining each character (TT is based on quadratic not bezier curves) so the fonts are bigger (in bytes) and print slower (after being converted) Also, Meta Pro runs on the Mac only, but it does a great job of converting fonts on all kinds of platforms. -- Lorin Rivers Lorin_Rivers@altsys.com NEXTSTEP Sales Manager 214.680.2060 269 W. Renner Parkway NeXT Mail Expected Richardson, Texas 75080 I said it, not my boss
From: isbell@cats.ucsc.edu (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: HELP: TERM1.0.7 problem Date: 27 Oct 1993 15:30:02 GMT Organization: Cubic Solutions - NeXT software development and consulting Distribution: usa Message-ID: <2am45q$h9m@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> References: <1993Oct26.233521.3756@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu> <2akmos$cn3@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> In article <2akmos$cn3@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> isbell@cats.ucsc.edu (Art Isbell) writes: >In article <1993Oct26.233521.3756@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu> wkwong@bode.eng.ohio-state.edu (Waihon Andrew Kwong) writes: >>I was using the TERM for a while until today, it suddenly does not work. It >>seems like it is running, but I can use the "trsh" to connect to the TERM >>server...... Any clue? >I'm having exactly the same experience! I've been using the term binary >shipped with TipTop for about a week with no problems, and now today, any term >client (ncftp, trsh, NewsGrazer after tredir has redirected the news port, >etc.) all hang when run :-( >Has some sort of timebomb been compiled into TipTop's term? Or is this a >national conspiracy ?-) No, no national conspiracy, just a programmer's bug in which time values were stored in ints that overflowed on 26 October 1993 :-) From term's author: > Michael, > Several NeXT users around the U.S. awakened on 26 Oct. 1993 to discover > that their "term" 1.0.7 no longer functions! Everything appears normal until > > one of term's clients is run like trsh which hangs. Running term under "test > " > also results in trsh hanging. > However, if the system clock is set back to before 26 Oct. 1993, "test" > works again as expected!! > Do you have any explanation or fix for this? Yes, .... Forward this to anyone you know how may be using term.... > > Topics: > Stumped: term suddenly stopped working? Yes, this is a form letter. :) Get term108 tartarus.uwa.edu.au:/pub/oreillym/term/term108.tar.gz alternatively, here's a partial patch... (thanks jeff) diff -C 5 term.old/main.c term/main.c *** term.old/main.c Mon Mar 8 23:12:19 1993 --- term/main.c Tue Oct 26 03:57:55 1993 *************** *** 19,29 **** * basically consists of select() and then calls things based on the select(). * */ /*------------------------------------------------------------------------*/ /* truely global vars. Used everywhere. */ ! int current_time = 0; int do_shutdown = 0; int debug = 0; int compressing = 1; /*------------------------------------------------------------------------*/ /* Various global variables. Note that most of these vars are local to */ --- 19,29 ---- * basically consists of select() and then calls things based on the select(). * */ /*------------------------------------------------------------------------*/ /* truely global vars. Used everywhere. */ ! unsigned long current_time = 0; int do_shutdown = 0; int debug = 0; int compressing = 1; /*------------------------------------------------------------------------*/ /* Various global variables. Note that most of these vars are local to */ *************** *** 39,49 **** int fudge_flow = 0; /* should we generate periodic control-Q's */ int byte_shift = 0; /* So we can map less frequently uses section down to */ /* 0-32 */ int window_size = 3; /* A convenient number. 9600 baud users should probly */ /* go to 2. */ ! int packet_timeout = 70; /* wait 3.5 seconds for a packet to time out */ int do_forceing = 1; /* weather or not to automatically transmit packets */ /* if the window is full, and the out */ /* buffer is empty. */ int write_noise = 0; /* whether we should print out all the the serial stuff */ /* we get that we don't understand.. */ --- 39,49 ---- int fudge_flow = 0; /* should we generate periodic control-Q's */ int byte_shift = 0; /* So we can map less frequently uses section down to */ /* 0-32 */ int window_size = 3; /* A convenient number. 9600 baud users should probly */ /* go to 2. */ ! unsigned long packet_timeout = 70; /* wait 3.5 seconds for a packet to time out */ int do_forceing = 1; /* weather or not to automatically transmit packets */ /* if the window is full, and the out */ /* buffer is empty. */ int write_noise = 0; /* whether we should print out all the the serial stuff */ /* we get that we don't understand.. */ diff -C 5 term.old/misc.c term/misc.c *** term.old/misc.c Sun Mar 7 20:07:44 1993 --- term/misc.c Tue Oct 26 04:02:01 1993 *************** *** 10,27 **** void update_time(void) { struct timeval t; extern int bytes_left; ! long old_time = current_time; #ifdef SVR4 gettimeofday(&t); #else gettimeofday(&t, (struct timezone *) 0 ); #endif ! current_time = t.tv_sec * 20 + t.tv_usec / 50000; bytes_left += (((current_time - old_time) * baudrate) / 200); if (bytes_left > (baudrate/10)) bytes_left = (baudrate/10); if (bytes_left < 0) bytes_left = 0;/* sanity check */ } --- 10,28 ---- void update_time(void) { struct timeval t; extern int bytes_left; ! unsigned long old_time = current_time; #ifdef SVR4 gettimeofday(&t); #else gettimeofday(&t, (struct timezone *) 0 ); #endif ! current_time = ((unsigned long)t.tv_sec) * (unsigned long)20 + ! (unsigned long)(t.tv_usec / 50000); bytes_left += (((current_time - old_time) * baudrate) / 200); if (bytes_left > (baudrate/10)) bytes_left = (baudrate/10); if (bytes_left < 0) bytes_left = 0;/* sanity check */ } diff -C 5 term.old/serial.c term/serial.c *** term.old/serial.c Sun Feb 14 23:30:08 1993 --- term/serial.c Tue Oct 26 03:56:10 1993 *************** *** 204,214 **** /* packet timeout period and that we */ /* actually found a packet. */ if (p_out[l].type < 0) return; ! if (current_time - p_out[l].timeout < packet_timeout) return; /* And then we send it. */ if (fudge_flow && p_out[l].timeout) put_serial(19); --- 204,214 ---- /* packet timeout period and that we */ /* actually found a packet. */ if (p_out[l].type < 0) return; ! if (current_time < (p_out[l].timeout + packet_timeout)) return; /* And then we send it. */ if (fudge_flow && p_out[l].timeout) put_serial(19); diff -C 5 term.old/term.h term/term.h *** term.old/term.h Mon Mar 8 23:12:35 1993 --- term/term.h Tue Oct 26 03:56:43 1993 *************** *** 20,34 **** /* compressed packet */ /* packed (sevenbit) packet */ /* ack packet */ /* main.c */ extern int - current_time, remote, clients_waiting, - packet_timeout, debug, window_size, write_noise, byte_shift, term_errno, --- 20,33 ---- /* compressed packet */ /* packed (sevenbit) packet */ /* ack packet */ /* main.c */ + extern unsigned long current_time, packet_timeout; extern int remote, clients_waiting, debug, window_size, write_noise, byte_shift, term_errno, *************** *** 84,94 **** /* serial.c */ struct Packet_out { un_char data[260]; int type; /* flag for compressed or not */ int len; ! int timeout; /* What time it will timeout */ int trans; }; struct Packet_in { un_char data[260]; --- 83,93 ---- /* serial.c */ struct Packet_out { un_char data[260]; int type; /* flag for compressed or not */ int len; ! unsigned long timeout; /* What time it will timeout */ int trans; }; struct Packet_in { un_char data[260]; -- Art Isbell Cubic Solutions NeXT Registered Developer NEXTSTEP software development and consulting NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: +1 408 335 1154 USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: +1 408 335 2515
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) Subject: Re: Where is a JPEG viewer for NS/i? Message-ID: <1993Oct27.160736.16395@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: Stanford University References: <1993Oct27.030535.4581@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 93 16:07:36 GMT Greg Gerard writes > could not find anything that looked appropriate on the archives. ImageViewer. It displays JPEG and most other formats. And its free. -- - Stefano Pagiola Food Research Institute, Stanford University spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged) spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
From: ren@nin.asd.sgi.com (Ron Nikel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: BackSpace 3.0 Date: 27 Oct 1993 16:34:34 GMT Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <2am7uq$d52@fido.asd.sgi.com> Where do I locate BackSpace 3.0? Can't seem to locate it anywhere. You can reply directly. Thanks in advance. ren@sgi.com Ron.
From: averill@bela.music.washington.edu (Ron Averill) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Screen saver problem Date: 27 Oct 1993 16:48:25 GMT Organization: University of Washington Message-ID: <2am8op$1s3@news.u.washington.edu> We have a screen saver program called VidLev which is called in LogoutHook, so when a user logs out, the screen saver automatically comes on. After installing system 3.1, we began having problems with the screens constantly going dark. We finally discovered that the VidLev program was being called over and over. As there were no problems with it before system 3.1, I assume that the new operating system is causing it not to work. My question is: does anyone have a suggestion for an alternative method of saving the screen? There is a screen saver which the operating system uses, but it doesn't kick in for about an hour and I haven't been able to find a way to make it start up sooner. Thanks for your help. Ron Averill University of Washington School of Music Computer Center raverill@u.washington.edu
From: trung@cs.bu.edu (Trung Dung) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Hayes ISDN extender on analog lines? Date: 27 Oct 1993 17:05:30 GMT Organization: Computer Science Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <2am9oq$4vv@news.bu.edu> Originator: trung@cs Subject: Hayes ISDN extender on analog lines? I would like to program my NeXTstation to have similar capabilities as your average voice-mail system. I was under the impression that the Hayes ISDN extender has the analog phone line hardware that I need, but I'm not entirely sure. I was hoping someone who has one could answer some questions and put my mind at ease before I plunk down $280 (or whatever NeXTconnection is selling it for). 1) Does it have the *analog* phone line interfacing that I want? To be specific: o Ring detection o On/Off hook o Touch Tone decoding o Sound in/out 2) Am I going to be able to program this thing? When I called to order one, NeXTconnection warned me that the PhoneKit only works with the ISDN extended on ISDN lines, not analog lines. Is this true? If so, where can I get information on how to write a driver for it? Any help or information anyone can give me would be most appreciated. -Trung Dung trung@cs.bu.edu
From: rjackson@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Randy W Jackson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: WordPerfect Date: 27 Oct 1993 18:08:49 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <2amdfh$747@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> References: <1993Oct22.202636.21172@leland.Stanford.EDU> <1993Oct25.194450.2925 The really bad news is that WordPerfect for NeXT doesn't even recognize the WordPerfect 6.0 file format. So, if you are working on a DOS platform in 6.0, save the file and try to read it into WP for NeXT, you lose. At least when the DOS versions were 5.x, you could open all DOS (WP) files, even if some attributes were marked as "unknown." So, let's hope that WP does eventually provide a 6.0 compatible version for NeXT! Randy Jackson jackson+@osu.edu
Message-ID: <z'%@byu.edu> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 93 12:40:03 MDT From: yackd@alaska.et.byu.edu (Don Yacktman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Distribution: world References: <1993Oct26.185551.12854@newshost.lanl.gov> Organization: Brigham Young University, Provo UT USA Subject: Re: a curious thing about BoinkOut Here's another interesting one... You'll note that when a ball bounces of a perma-brick, it is given a bit of a kick...and the moving bricks really kick it. Well, as it turns out, when you have a moving brick near two horizontally adjacent bricks, you can get the moving brick to kick the ball between the perma-bricks, and the bal will then bounce back and forth between the perma-bricks forever. This actually ends up pretty easy to do. As a result, I often get stuck in one of the levels in the forties, I forget which one, because all the balls get stuck. :-( Maybe Same will fix this one day. Since source isn't available, I can't fix it... but what needs to be done is to detect if the ball has hit the same two bricks several times in succession, and if so, kick the ball in a different direction once. -- Don_Yacktman@byu.edu Nepotism is a relative thing.
From: hussain@artsci.wustl.edu (G. H. Chinoy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: remote mounting of a disk Date: 27 Oct 1993 18:39:26 GMT Organization: Washington University, St. Louis, MO Message-ID: <2amf8u$6g3@wuecl.wustl.edu> Hi y'all, I was wondering if someone could help me with this question: How do I remotely mount a hard disk on another machine? NeXTmail welcome ________________________________ G. Hussain Chinoy Consultant, Arts & Sciences NeXT Lab Cupples I, Room 213 Washington University in St. Louis hussain@artsci.wustl.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dicosmo@dmi.ens.fr (Roberto DiCosmo) Subject: Re: Emacs 19 under NS natively (was: Get events without [NXApp run]?) Message-ID: <1993Oct27.161514.7252@ens.fr> Sender: news@ens.fr (USENET News System) Organization: Ecole Normale Superieure, PARIS, France References: <CFJ36I.8B@genoa.com> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 93 16:15:14 GMT In article <CFJ36I.8B@genoa.com> alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore) writes: > cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) said: > > Michael Brouwer and I ported emacs 19.19 to run under NS > > Neither Michael nor I have the time to create new NS patches > > in parallel to the patch of the week for emacs. > > Reuven Lerner writes > > I wouldn't presume to speak for everyone, but I certainly wouldn't > > mind using an "outdated" version of Emacs 19. > > Carl, > > First, I agree with Reuven, let us use the outdated version please. > It will certainly be more up to date than NeXT's latest release. > > Second, If FSF won't accept your changes, why not donate then to NeXT? > They can then maintain them and upgrade to the latest emacs with each > release. That way everyone wins. > > -- > Alex Blakemore > alex@cs.umd.edu NeXT mail accepted I agree: _please_ do it! That would be a very big enhancement for so many of us! -- Roberto Di Cosmo <dicosmo@dmi.ens.fr> LIENS Ecole Normale Superieure 45, Rue d'Ulm 75005 Paris FRANCE
From: heading@signal.dra.hmg.gb (Anthony J.R. Heading) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NS Emacs 19 - a defence of RMS Date: 27 Oct 1993 18:59:28 GMT Organization: Defence Research Agency Message-ID: <2amgegINN9t7@signal.dra.hmg.gb> References: <2ak1j3$q0p@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Ernest Prabhakar writes : I think the VMS : analogy is a good one: They don't support it, but they don't mind : distributing the patches if someone else provides them. So, Well, I've been "discussing" this with RMS, and to be honest, I think he has a point. He has said: > I have been too willing in the past to give in to entreaties to > help users of some proprietary system today instead of focusing > on my real goal. This probably includes VMS. The point is that if he distributes the code, he gets the bug reports and has to do the maintenance. I've read Carl & Michael's Emacs code over the past couple of weeks, and you can believe me when I say that there is a _large_ amount of NS expertise in it. I doubt RMS is familiar with this, and I doubt he has time and inclination to be. > It seems to me that it is sufficient for the people who are > interested in NeXTStep support to distribute the files for NeXTStep > support on their own. Then people who want that can use it. I attempted to argue that DPS is a useful thing for GNU to support: > I don't think it makes sense to consider alternatives to X within > the GNU project. Any replacement for X would be a very large job, > and I'm sure I wouldn't want to support that either. Now if it is the case that there are a significant number of architectures which use DPS, or that anyone else *is* thinking of developing DPS for GNU, then there is a strong case for inclusion. Evidence would suggest against it, though. At the moment, though, it would be beneficial to us end-users to have RMS supporting and maintaning Emacs in the context of NS, and it would be particulary useful for Carl and Michael to be spared the effort of having to supply and update patches. But *someone* has to do it, and I think if RMS says he has enough on his plate then we probably should believe him... Anthony
From: mnb2@konichiwa.cc.columbia.edu (Mark Nathan Broadie) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: GIF or TIFF to EPS Date: 27 Oct 1993 19:28:02 GMT Organization: Columbia University Sender: mbroadie@research.gsb.columbia.edu (Mark Broadie) Message-ID: <2ami42$hr@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> I have some pictures created on a PC that I would like to move to my NeXT and include in a TeX document. The pictures (screen captures) are .GIF files that I can translate to .EPS files using ImageViewer or Create. Unfortunately, the tiny .GIF files (e.g., 12K) are save as huge .EPS files (e.g., 1.5M), probably because they are saved as bit maps. Does anybody have a solution to this problem, i.e., a way to convert .GIF to relatively small .EPS files? -mark broadie mbroadie@research.gsb.columbia.edu
From: theharv@csld.ucr.edu (Brian Harvey) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: A good database... Date: 27 Oct 1993 20:33:54 GMT Organization: University of California, Riverside Message-ID: <2amlvi$pii@galaxy.ucr.edu> Keywords: database Can someone recommend a good general-use database that runs under black hardware? We are looking for a database to be used in our lower division NeXT lab by non-computer science students. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! ----------------------------------------------------------------- Brian Harvey * theharv@csld.ucr.edu University of California, Riverside * brian@cs.ucr.edu UOB 221 Ext. 2842 C.S.L.D. System Administrator (NeXT Mail preferred everywhere!) -----------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: cleelacj@agedwards.com (Chris Cleeland) Subject: Re: Emacs 19 under NS natively (was: Get events without [NXApp run]?) Message-ID: <CFKLMF.CHy@agedwards.com> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1993 19:18:14 GMT References: <2ajo4p$3kj@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Organization: A. G. Edwards & Sons, Inc. Joseph W Reiss (jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu) wrote: : "Carl" == Carl Edman <cedman@princeton.edu> writes: : > we ported Emacs 19.19 to run under NS natively. : In short... release it, PLEASE!!! Pretty PLEEEEEEEEEEASE, with sugar : and a cherry on top! PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEASE!!! MeToo!!MeToo!!MeToo!!MeToo!!MeToo!!MeToo!!MeToo!!MeToo!!MeToo!!MeToo!!MeToo!! Anyway, should we start a mail campaign to rms@prep.ai.mit.edu (or wherever he has his primary account)? Is the problem that they don't have a copy of the software? Perhaps somebody (NeXT, maybe) could donate a copy to them. RMS is a pretty militant and principalled (sp?) fellow; if his stubbornness is based on some vendetta he's got against the platform, then it's probably going to be a long, uphill battle. :-( We should be able to find enough competent people on the net to maintain. The hard part will be when a new version is released. However, if the lag time btw. 18 and 19 is any indication, we won't have to worry about that for awhile. -cj -- ============================================================================== Chris Cleeland | NeXTMail: chris@milo.st-louis.mo.us BOS Dev. Team | MIMEMail: cleeland@agedwards.com | BellNet: (314) 289-5372
From: ernest@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu (Ernest Prabhakar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: SpaceWar.app Date: 27 Oct 1993 21:08:57 GMT Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena Distribution: world Message-ID: <2amo19$64d@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Hello, I remember a question being asked about this, but I'm not sure where. Hopefully the curious person will see this. Also, the author did not include an email address, so I can't send him my comments directly. SpaceWar is a $5 shareware game by John Hermann (Abilene, Texas). As far as I know, this is the only two-player NeXTSTEP arcade-style game, and certainly worth the money as that. However, that is about all, which is a real shame because the game has great potential. SpaceWars lives up to its namesake, the original computer game of two spaceships orbiting a star and firing bullets at each other. The animation is nice, and he provides bungwads of options for tuning the behavior. The most annoying thing about the game (for me) is the controls. Using the keyboard and keypad is a good, standard idea for two-player games. HOwever, the setting is: Left Right Thrust FIRE As opposed (what I consider) the much more natural, one-handed: Left THRUST Right Fire Even better, of course, would be customizable key bindings, as (I think) Rocks has. There's lots of annoying little things (difficult to read help, inability to cut and paste, no email address). If John is out there somewhere, I would *really* encourage him to pick up a copy of GameKit, which would make it easy to add all the bells and whistles that make a game "feel" professional. He's got a great idea, and did a very nice engine, but it could really use some polish. -- Ernie P. -- Ernest N. Prabhakar Caltech High Energy Physics Member, League for Programming Freedom (league@prep.ai.mit.edu) CaJUN President NeXTMail:ernest@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu "...and ourselves, your servants for Jesus sake." - II Cor 4:5b #import <std/disclaimer.h>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) Subject: Re: A good database... Message-ID: <1993Oct27.222523.2750@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: Stanford University References: <2amlvi$pii@galaxy.ucr.edu> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 93 22:25:23 GMT Brian Harvey writes > Can someone recommend a good general-use database that runs > under black hardware? We are looking for a database to be used in > our lower division NeXT lab by non-computer science > students. DataPhile is very nice. There should be a demo on the archives. -- - Stefano Pagiola Food Research Institute, Stanford University spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged) spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) Subject: Re: GIF or TIFF to EPS Message-ID: <1993Oct27.222701.2851@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: Stanford University References: <2ami42$hr@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 93 22:27:01 GMT Mark Nathan Broadie writes > I have some pictures created on a PC that I would like to > move to my NeXT and include in a TeX document. The pictures > (screen captures) are .GIF files that I can translate to .EPS > files using ImageViewer or Create. Unfortunately, the tiny > ..GIF files (e.g., 12K) are save as huge .EPS files (e.g., 1.5M), > probably because they are saved as bit maps. Does anybody > have a solution to this problem, i.e., a way to convert .GIF to > relatively small .EPS files? How about translating them to tiff using ImageViewer and then LZW-compressing them? That should result in pretty small files, and should work just as well in any NeXT document (I have no experience with TeX, though). -- - Stefano Pagiola Food Research Institute, Stanford University spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged) spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson) Subject: Re: How to use FSF GCC with 3.1(2) User Version? Message-ID: <1993Oct27.221716.18031@news.media.mit.edu> Sender: news@news.media.mit.edu (USENET News System) Organization: MIT Media Laboratory References: <CFHJrI.Jv2@rice.edu> Distribution: usa Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1993 22:17:16 GMT Brad Allen Day 216Cox x3545 writes > I have run into the need (desire) to upgrade from a complete version > of NeXTSTEP 3.0 to a 3.1(2) user version on black hardware. I have a need > to periodically use the C-compiler to generate ansi C code, but can not > readily justify the cost of a full developer version of 3.1(2). > > Question: Can one obtain the FSF GCC compiler and use it in conjunction > with the user version of 3.1(2) and have the ability to > program in ansi C? > > If the answer to the above question is yes, does anyone have additional > information as to how to go about setting things up? Any help would be > greatly appreciated. > > Please send e-mail to baday@nero.rice.edu and I will gladly summarize if > there is interest. > > Brad Day > > -- > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Brad A. Day Department of Mechanical Engineering > Research Assistant and Materials Science > baday@rice.edu Rice University You do realize that for educational customers, the whole of NS, including developer tools, is $299? -- --> Michael B. Johnson --> MIT Media Lab -- Computer Graphics & Animation Group --> (617) 253-0663 -- wave@media-lab.media.mit.edu --> NeXT Mail accepted at wave@nordine.media.mit.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mhenry@zeus.UWaterloo.ca (Mark Henry) Subject: Hardware Mac Emulator? Message-ID: <CFKv1M.GL9@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca> Sender: news@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1993 22:41:45 GMT Hi, Recently I saw a post about a box that plugged into the NeXT to provide Macintosh compatibility. The post seems to have expired at my site. If anybody saved it can they e-mail it to me (mhenry@zeus.uwaterloo.ca)? Best Regards, Mark
From: scwg0600@ih-nxt01.cso.uiuc.edu (Steven C Weintz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: newest WWW-software for NEXTSTEP? Date: 27 Oct 1993 23:40:20 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Distribution: world Message-ID: <2an0t4$l6m@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <2ahhee$gj@theborg.stack.urc.tue.nl> In article <2ahhee$gj@theborg.stack.urc.tue.nl> annard@theborg.stack.urc.tue.nl (Annard Brouwer) writes: > Hello world, > > Does anybody know if there is someone working on a new version of WWW software > for NEXTSTEP? I have been playing with some very old versions but they leave a > lot to be desired... Is source-code available? > This program could really be a great example of the superiority of NEXTSTEP! We're all in luck! As a result of conversations with Marco Scheurer at the Swiss Federal Institute of echnology and some folks at NCSA, i can report the following: 1) NCSA won't build a native NeXTSTEP version of Mosaic, but they think it's perhaps the very best platform for it, and 2) marco and some old friends from CERN who developed the original WWW on NeXTs are going ahead with a Mosaic-like front-end for NS! Rejoice, O ye who wander in the Valley of the Shadow of Bill! Netsurfers, multimedia and kick-ass-and-take-names games - THESE are what will sell OS's!!! (end tirade) Steve Weintz
From: ernest@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu (Ernest Prabhakar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NS Emacs 19 - a defence of RMS Date: 27 Oct 1993 23:34:54 GMT Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena Distribution: world Message-ID: <2an0iv$asi@gap.cco.caltech.edu> References: <2amgegINN9t7@signal.dra.hmg.gb> In article <2amgegINN9t7@signal.dra.hmg.gb> heading@signal.dra.hmg.gb (Anthony J.R. Heading) writes: > Ernest Prabhakar writes > : I think the VMS > : analogy is a good one: They don't support it, but they don't mind > : distributing the patches if someone else provides them. So, > > Well, I've been "discussing" this with RMS, and to be honest, I > think he has a point. He has said: > > I have been too willing in the past to give in to entreaties to > > help users of some proprietary system today instead of focusing > > on my real goal. Well, if RMS is taking a consistent stand against any proprietary system, including VMS, I can't really complain. The question is how much effort is it for US (the NeXT community) to support NeXmacs (anybody got a better name than Emacs for NeXTSTEP?) ourselves? Carl, if you don't want to publish and support it yourself, would you be willing to let somebody else have all your work so they can do it? Is it really even important to have somebody "in charge" of it? Could it just be stuck on cs.orst.edu with a bunch of disclaimers, and whoever complains about bugs gets put in charge of fixing them? - Ernie P. -- Ernest N. Prabhakar Caltech High Energy Physics Member, League for Programming Freedom (league@prep.ai.mit.edu) CaJUN President NeXTMail:ernest@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu "...and ourselves, your servants for Jesus sake." - II Cor 4:5b #import <std/disclaimer.h>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: root@wsm.com (System Manager) Subject: NeXTStep on Intel: What Fax/Modems are usable? Message-ID: <1993Oct28.004012.688@wsm.com> Organization: Western Scientific Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1993 00:40:12 GMT Hello, Thank you for reading this posting! I am thinking (hard) about buying NeXTStep for the Intel platform. I am reluctant after my horrible experience of buying Windows NT (truely "Not There") and besides finding out how slow it was on a 486/50 with 16MB memory I was also astonished by the amount of my hardware that was not usable in NT. The worst of all was my (too expensive) Intel Satisfaxtion 400i internal Fax/14.4Modem board. I rely on this thing alot for in/out faxes and SLIP to internet. Does anyone know if the Intel 400i works under NeXTStep? And if so is it possible to Fax In/Out and use the modem? Does it run its full ability or degraded (just modem)? The controlers I have I worry about are: Adaptec 1542b Intel 400i Fax/Modem Orchid Prodesigner IIs SVGA controller Any and all replies are greatly appreciated!! -Jeff jeff@wsm.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dsiebert@icaen.uiowa.edu (Doug Siebert) Subject: How to print Mac postscript stuff on a NeXT? Message-ID: <1993Oct28.035321.16957@icaen.uiowa.edu> Sender: usenet@icaen.uiowa.edu (UseNet News daemon) Organization: Iowa Computer Aided Engineering Network, University of Iowa Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1993 03:53:21 GMT Supposedly the NeXT "just works". I don't find that the case many times when I get postscript stuff printed from a Mac on my NeXT, however. I see errors in the Previewer or Print app that are logged as Postscript program errors. Now I'm sure someone will say Apple doesn't follow the rules for Postscript and does their own thing to some extent, but I find many, if not most, of these documents will print on a NeWSPrinter (Sun's Postscript + NeWS printer) just fine. Is there any way to get these things to print on my NeXT? Having this great integrated DPS machine doesn't do me much good when I can't import many postscript documents others have no trouble with. Maybe NeXT will fix this in some manner in a future release (I'm using 3.0) and make their PS implementation more robust? Thanks for any help anyone can provide. -- Doug Siebert dsiebert@isca.uiowa.edu "Had this been an actual emergency, we would have fled in terror, and you would not have been informed." --Someone more clever than I
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org (Thomas Engel) Subject: Installer.app? Does it..or will it handle .gz ?? Message-ID: <CFIsst.5u@shinto.nbg.sub.org> Sender: tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org (Thomas Engel) Organization: Molecule Modelling Lab. Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1993 19:58:04 GMT Hello! Packages are realy a nice installation feature NeXTSTEP offers. But using the normal compress makes pkg files bigger than they would be using gzip (and not just some bytes) I m running v3.0. And providing a pkg with a tar.gz does not work. Does it in v3.1 or will it with v3.2. ?? Moving to MAB Files would have made it easy to make this change. With MAB requireing v3.1 to run there would have been no backwards compatibility problem. Did NeXT think about this one ? And does the Installer show what architectures are supported within the binary and let you choose the ones you need ?? Are there Programms the let me create a pkg. (Documentation on the format would be good too) ? Thanks Tom -- ____________________________________________________ (tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org) Thomas Engel Neptunstr. 9
From: luomat@alleg.edu (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: MaillCall from cs.orst. Date: 28 Oct 1993 05:11:41 GMT Organization: Allegheny College Distribution: world Message-ID: <2ankad$od9@ftp.alleg.edu> Does anyone have a working copy of this util? I Ftp'd it from cs.orst and it uncompressed and untar'd fine, but it would begin to launch and then quit, with no error message or anything. The readme did not list an email address for the author, so I thought I'd ask if anyone had a working version. It is on pub/next/binaries/util if anyone is interested. Thanks -- Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu NeXT Mail Welcomed Home: Hudson, MA Current: Allegheny College, Meadville PA If it does not please you to serve the Lord, decide today whom you will serve - Joshua 24:15
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,gnu.misc.discuss From: ben@fizz.fdn.org (Benoit Grange) Subject: Re: Emacs 19 under NS natively (was: Get events without [NXApp run]?) In-Reply-To: speters@samsun.us.oracle.com's message of Tue, 26 Oct 1993 17:52:27 GMT Message-ID: <BEN.93Oct27225957@fizz.fdn.org> Sender: ben@fizz.fdn.org (Benoit Grange) Organization: Me References: <1993Oct24.225053.125583@embl-heidelberg.de> <CEDMAN.93Oct24214909@capitalist.princeton.edu> <SOWA.93Oct25113854@amdew.llnl.gov> <CEDMAN.93Oct25154204@capitalist.princeton.edu> <REUVEN.93Oct26101733@alexander-hamilton.mit.edu> <SPETERS.93Oct26105228@samsun.us.oracle.com> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1993 21:59:57 GMT In article <CEDMAN.93Oct25154204@capitalist.princeton.edu> cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes: The reason it is not on the archives yet is that the Free Software Foundation and Richard Stallman consider our NeXT port a nuisance at best and have refused to accept our code. I don't really understand why the FSF does not 'accept' it. Put this code into the "unsupported goodies". Or publish it elsewere. An APOLLO port also exists, and is maybe "not so useful", but it does exist. Who prevents you from releasing yours ??? *FREE* Software Fundation ?!?!?!? I use emacs 18.55 and emacs 19.12 at different sites, and I don't mind not having the latest version. If you port works for emacs 19.19, it is ok for me. Please DO post the sources. Benoit. -- Benoit Grange - PARIS - FRANCE ---- Mail to : ben@fizz.fdn.org (SMALL NeXTMails accepted)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: gsl@netcom.com (Greg Lindholm) Subject: Opener.app where is it? Message-ID: <gslCFLJ9H.HnJ@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1993 07:24:53 GMT Where can I find Opener.app for Intel ? Which archive site? Sources are perfered if available. Thanks, Greg Lindholm gsl@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) Subject: Re: NS Emacs 19 - a defence of RMS In-Reply-To: heading@signal.dra.hmg.gb's message of 27 Oct 1993 18:59:28 GMT To: heading@signal.dra.hmg.gb (Anthony J.R. Heading) Message-ID: <CEDMAN.93Oct27163546@capitalist.princeton.edu> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University References: <2ak1j3$q0p@gap.cco.caltech.edu> <2amgegINN9t7@signal.dra.hmg.gb> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1993 20:35:46 GMT In article <2amgegINN9t7@signal.dra.hmg.gb> heading@signal.dra.hmg.gb (Anthony J.R. Heading) writes: Well, I've been "discussing" this with RMS, and to be honest, I think he has a point. He has said: > I have been too willing in the past to give in to entreaties to > help users of some proprietary system today instead of focusing > on my real goal. This probably includes VMS. The point is that if he distributes the code, he gets the bug reports and has to do the maintenance. I've read Carl & Michael's Emacs code over the past couple of weeks, and you can believe me when I say that there is a _large_ amount of NS expertise in it. I doubt RMS is familiar with this, and I doubt he has time and inclination to be. That's certainly true and asking RMS to get familiar with our code and update, improve or even test it would be to ask too much. But all we ask is that it be added to the standard distribution. Systems without NS will auto-configure themselves so that all the NS code is dead and can be completely ignored by the maintainers. Every few patches, Michael and I would get the standard distribution, do whatever is needed in the NeXT code and send RMS the small patches relative to that. I imagine that is the same way the VMS code is maintained. So as you see, nobody asks the FSF for much work. Michael and I have done the work. All we ask is official blessing and distribution. Carl Edman
From: med@D012S648.zfe.siemens.de (T.Hoellrich) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NS Emacs 19 - a defence of RMS Date: 28 Oct 1993 17:36:08 GMT Organization: Siemens-Nixdorf Informationssystem AG Distribution: world Message-ID: <MED.93Oct28113608@D012S648.zfe.siemens.de> References: <2amgegINN9t7@signal.dra.hmg.gb> <2an0iv$asi@gap.cco.caltech.edu> In-reply-to: ernest@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu's message of 27 Oct 1993 23:34:54 GMT In article <2an0iv$asi@gap.cco.caltech.edu> ernest@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu (Ernest Prabhakar) writes: >Is it really even important to have somebody "in charge" of it? Could >it just be stuck on cs.orst.edu with a bunch of disclaimers, and >whoever complains about bugs gets put in charge of fixing them? > I second that! I think there are really a lot of people out there who will love to see a native NeXTStep-Emacs (me in first place!). So Carl, put it on cs.orst.edu and *we all* take care of it and keep it up to the newest Emacs version. RMS has really to much to do! Can't wait to get in touch with your port! Tobias -- ____/| Tobias Hoellrich, Nietzschestr.26, 80807 Muenchen, Germany \ o.O| phone: +49-89-359 03 54 =(_)= email: med@d012s648.zfe.siemens.de U NeXTMail: tobias@nextix.muc.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) Subject: Re: How to print Mac postscript stuff on a NeXT? Message-ID: <1993Oct28.105421.19145@csus.edu> Sender: news@csus.edu Organization: San Francisco State University References: <1993Oct28.035321.16957@icaen.uiowa.edu> Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1993 10:54:21 GMT Have you installed LaserWriter 8.1.1 on your Mac? (If not, why not?) ftp.apple.com:dts/mac/sys.soft/imaging/laserwriter.8.1/ laserwriter-8-1-readme.txt really important stuff laserwriter-8-1-image-800-1.hqx laserwriter-8-1-image-800-2.hqx "DD" diskette images -or- laserwriter-8-1-image-1440.hqx "HD" diskette image (if you don't have DiskCopy 4.2, grab dts/utils/diskcopy-4-2.hqx first) -=EPS=-
From: jclannom@mathlab.mtu.edu (Joe Lannom) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: GIF or TIFF to EPS Date: 28 Oct 1993 13:48:42 GMT Organization: Michigan Technological University Message-ID: <2aoijq$bs1@mtu.edu> References: <1993Oct27.222701.2851@leland.Stanford.EDU> Originator: jclannom@next1 Stefano Pagiola writes > Mark Nathan Broadie writes > > I have some pictures created on a PC that I would like to > > move to my NeXT and include in a TeX document. The pictures > > (screen captures) are .GIF files that I can translate to .EPS > > files using ImageViewer or Create. Unfortunately, the tiny > > ..GIF files (e.g., 12K) are save as huge .EPS files (e.g., 1.5M), > > probably because they are saved as bit maps. Does anybody > > have a solution to this problem, i.e., a way to convert .GIF to > > relatively small .EPS files? > > How about translating them to tiff using ImageViewer and then > LZW-compressing them? That should result in pretty small files, and > should work just as well in any NeXT document (I have no experience > with TeX, though). > .tiff files don't include well into TeX documents. .eps files are the only ones besides .pic's that I've been able to get displayed right. I think you're stuck with the 1.5M .eps files. Appsoft Draw will allow you to select only certain object and will set the window dimensions appropriately so that you don't get the entire page saved as the .eps file.... thats the only help I can offer. If I'm wrong, someone please enlighten me!! 8-) joe -- jclannom@mathlab.mtu.edu | Michigan Technological University If you think my opinions represent those of MTU.. Seek help. >>>--> When "wide open spaces" brings parking to mind, die.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs From: jhh@genesis5.physics.yale.edu (Jim Horne) Subject: Bug in MouseX? Message-ID: <1993Oct28.141805.18910@cs.yale.edu> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News) Organization: Yale Physics Department Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1993 14:18:05 GMT I have a NeXTstation Turbo (ADB keyboard) running NeXTSTEP 3.0, and I installed MouseX version 2.3 over the weekend. I got it from foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu and just followed the instructions. It compiled fine and works almost perfectly. The problem is that in some text fields, the "a" key is interpreted as DELETE, and the delete key is ignored. For example, in the search field of xmosaic, and anywhere in the crossfire window. By random fiddling, I discovered a painful workaround: typing alt-a alt-a does give an "a". This is extremely annoying. The sole reason I installed MouseX was to run xmosaic (okay, I admit to wanting to play crossfire too), and this bug greatly decreases its functionality. Anyone know how to fix it? Also, how does one fool it into thinking you have a middle mouse button? The documentation seems to be silent. -- Jim Horne jhh@genesis5.physics.yale.edu "With stupidity the gods themselves struggle in vain." Friedrich von Schiller
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: markm@wri.com Subject: Re: MaillCall from cs.orst. Message-ID: <1993Oct28.145030.25076@wri.com> Sender: news@wri.com ( ) Organization: Wolfram Research, Inc. References: <2ankad$od9@ftp.alleg.edu> Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1993 14:50:30 GMT In article <2ankad$od9@ftp.alleg.edu> luomat@alleg.edu (Timothy J. Luoma) writes: > > > Does anyone have a working copy of this util? I Ftp'd it from cs.orst > and it uncompressed and untar'd fine, but it would begin to launch and > then quit, with no error message or anything. The readme did not list > an email address for the author, so I thought I'd ask if anyone had a > working version. > > It is on pub/next/binaries/util if anyone is interested. > First, I'm pretty sure Mail Call doesn't run under 3.x. Second, I wouldn't recommend that anyone still running 2.x use the program. I discovered that it can do nasty things if just the right things happen in at the right time. As far as I can tell, if a message is being written to your mail spool file (/usr/spool/mail/username), at the same time that Mail.app is trying to retrieve new messages, at the same time the MailCall is checking the spool file for new messages, all subsequent messages will get dumped straight into the proverbial bit-bucket. --Mark
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dcode@netcom.com (Paul Marcos) Subject: Re: How to print Mac postscript stuff on a NeXT? Message-ID: <dcodeCFM558.1Jp@netcom.com> Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) References: <1993Oct28.035321.16957@icaen.uiowa.edu> Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1993 15:17:31 GMT In article <1993Oct28.035321.16957@icaen.uiowa.edu> dsiebert@icaen.uiowa.edu (Doug Siebert) writes: > >postscript documents others have no trouble with. Maybe NeXT will fix this in >some manner in a future release (I'm using 3.0) and make their PS >implementation more robust? Thanks for any help anyone can provide. > Instead, fix the Mac end. Use the LaserWriter 8.0 instead of 7.X. It works *much* better when moving .ps files from a Mac to a NeXT! I think that you can get the LW8.0 off of public archive sites as well as AOL or Compuserve. Paul -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- dCode | dcode@netcom.com | NeXT Mail Happily Accepted
From: sanchezp@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu (Paul J. Sanchez) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NS Emacs 19 - a defence of RMS Date: 28 Oct 1993 16:30:36 GMT Organization: University of Arizona UNIX Users Group Message-ID: <SANCHEZP.93Oct28093036@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu> References: <2ak1j3$q0p@gap.cco.caltech.edu> <2amgegINN9t7@signal.dra.hmg.gb> <CEDMAN.93Oct27163546@capitalist.princeton.edu> In-reply-to: cedman@princeton.edu's message of Wed, 27 Oct 1993 20:35:46 GMT In article <CEDMAN.93Oct27163546@capitalist.princeton.edu> cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes: >In article <2amgegINN9t7@signal.dra.hmg.gb> >heading@signal.dra.hmg.gb (Anthony J.R. Heading) writes: >> Well, I've been "discussing" this with RMS, and to be honest, I >> think he has a point. He has said: >> > I have been too willing in the past to give in to entreaties to >> > help users of some proprietary system today instead of focusing >> > on my real goal. >> This probably includes VMS. The point is that if he distributes >> the code, he gets the bug reports and has to do the maintenance. >> I've read Carl & Michael's Emacs code over the past couple of weeks, >> and you can believe me when I say that there is a _large_ amount of >> NS expertise in it. I doubt RMS is familiar with this, and I doubt >> he has time and inclination to be. >That's certainly true and asking RMS to get familiar with our code and >update, improve or even test it would be to ask too much. But all we >ask is that it be added to the standard distribution. Systems without >NS will auto-configure themselves so that all the NS code is dead and >can be completely ignored by the maintainers. Every few patches, >Michael and I would get the standard distribution, do whatever is >needed in the NeXT code and send RMS the small patches relative to >that. I imagine that is the same way the VMS code is maintained. >So as you see, nobody asks the FSF for much work. Michael and I have >done the work. All we ask is official blessing and distribution. > Carl Edman I'd like to see an NS native copy of emacs, too, but I understand RMS's position. It's like having your kids ask to adopt a cat. Sure, they promise they'll feed it and clean the litterbox, but all too often they lose interest after a while. Meanwhile, you can't unadopt a cat, all you can do is wait until it dies of old age. I doubt RMS will change his mind, which means that the only way this will be distributed is unofficially. Emacs 19.19 may be the first and last version to run in native NS mode, but I could manage to live with that - it's more than I've got now. I don't expect FSF to adopt it, though. They've got their own agenda and more than enough work to do. -- --paul paul@whimsy.umsl.edu ================================================================= A free society is one where it is safe to be unpopular. -- Adlai Stevenson =================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: magnus@fisher.Stanford.EDU (Magnus Nordborg) Subject: Re: newest WWW-software for NEXTSTEP? Message-ID: <1993Oct28.162851.2799@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: Stanford University References: <2an0t4$l6m@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Date: Thu, 28 Oct 93 16:28:51 GMT > In article <2an0t4$l6m@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> scwg0600@ih-nxt01.cso.uiuc.edu (Steven C Weintz) writes: > > In article <2ahhee$gj@theborg.stack.urc.tue.nl> > > annard@theborg.stack.urc.tue.nl (Annard Brouwer) writes: > > Hello world, > > > > Does anybody know if there is someone working on a new version of > > WWW software for NEXTSTEP? I have been playing with some very > > old versions but they leave a lot to be desired... Is source-code > > available? This program could really be a great example of the > > superiority of NEXTSTEP! > > We're all in luck! As a result of conversations with Marco Scheurer > at the Swiss Federal Institute of echnology and some folks at > NCSA, i can report the following: > > 1) NCSA won't build a native NeXTSTEP version of Mosaic, but they > think it's perhaps the very best platform for it, and > > 2) marco and some old friends from CERN who developed the original > WWW on NeXTs are going ahead with a Mosaic-like front-end for NS! > > Rejoice, O ye who wander in the Valley of the Shadow of Bill! > Netsurfers, multimedia and kick-ass-and-take-names games - THESE > are what will sell OS's!!! (end tirade) > > Steve Weintz I agree! The amount of network information is exploding. The ENORMOUS field of molecular biology is increasingly dependent on various databases (like GENBANK). The problem is that biologists hate computers and tend to be hooked on Macintosh. Thus all this software on the Macs, which do not have the power to do anything with the data (sequence alignment is a REAL problem) and are utterly unsuitable to be networked in the first place. This is a market for a Unix OS with a NICE GUI. I know only one... If NeXT and some developers aimed at these institution it would be progress. Problem is that the competition is largely places like NCSA. I hope they change their minds about native versions of software (imagine all this effort going into Mac programming -- I bet the NeXT versions could be done in very little time). There is a public domain package, the Genetic Data Enivironment (GDE), available from golgi.harvard.edu, which attempt to create a basic sequence editor to which it is easy to add module of other programs for analysis. The whole thing is written in C and for X/OpenWindows! Now imagine a OO sequence editor, and a well documented data interface so that one could dynamically add analysis program. The whole thing should of course also have capabilities to talk to the main data bases... PLEASE WRITE IT SOMEONE! :-) To quote the original author: "end tirade" -- Magnus Nordborg magnus@fisher.stanford.edu (NeXT mail preferred) Department of Biological Sciences Stanford University Stanford, CA 94305-5020 +1 (415) 723-4952 (office)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jpw@sansfoy.lib.virginia.edu (John Price-Wilkin) Subject: fat binaries: fat sometimes, sometimes not? Message-ID: <CFLxDz.65q@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU Organization: University of Virginia Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1993 12:29:59 GMT I've just compiled tcsh, elm2.4, perl4, and the gopher client with the "-arch m68k -arch i386" CFLAGS set. tcsh and gopher resulted in fat binaries. perl and elm did not, though clearly throughout the make process the arch switches were being used. Is it the case that some things cannot be compiled fat? If so, is there a way to tell beforehand which those things are? John Price-Wilkin jpw@virginia.edur resulted in fat binaries. perl and elm did not, though clearly throughout the make process the arch switches were being used. Is it the case that some things cannot be compiled fat? If so, is there a way to tell beforehand which th
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: magnus@fisher.Stanford.EDU (Magnus Nordborg) Subject: Re: NS Emacs 19 - a defence of RMS Message-ID: <1993Oct28.164659.3491@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: Stanford University References: <CEDMAN.93Oct27163546@capitalist.princeton.edu> Date: Thu, 28 Oct 93 16:46:59 GMT In article <CEDMAN.93Oct27163546@capitalist.princeton.edu> cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes: > In article <2amgegINN9t7@signal.dra.hmg.gb> heading@signal.dra.hmg.gb (Anthony J.R. Heading) writes: > Well, I've been "discussing" this with RMS, and to be honest, I > think he has a point. He has said: > > I have been too willing in the past to give in to entreaties to > > help users of some proprietary system today instead of focusing > > on my real goal. > > This probably includes VMS. The point is that if he distributes > the code, he gets the bug reports and has to do the maintenance. > I've read Carl & Michael's Emacs code over the past couple of weeks, > and you can believe me when I say that there is a _large_ amount of > NS expertise in it. I doubt RMS is familiar with this, and I doubt > he has time and inclination to be. > > That's certainly true and asking RMS to get familiar with our code and > update, improve or even test it would be to ask too much. But all we > ask is that it be added to the standard distribution. Systems without > NS will auto-configure themselves so that all the NS code is dead and > can be completely ignored by the maintainers. Every few patches, > Michael and I would get the standard distribution, do whatever is > needed in the NeXT code and send RMS the small patches relative to > that. I imagine that is the same way the VMS code is maintained. > > So as you see, nobody asks the FSF for much work. Michael and I have > done the work. All we ask is official blessing and distribution. > > Carl Edman Is it absolutely clear that RMS understands that this is all you are asking? It seems like there may be some misunderstanding... Basically you would need to add a few new configuration headers, a nxsrc subdir, and make changes in the basic configuration file, right? I sure hope someone manages to convince FSF that this is reasonable. If, however, this cannot be done, I would still ask you to make it available. I realize that it would be too horrible to keep up with the constant updates, but I would be more than happy to keep your pace in versions. I do not think just releasing the sources and hoping the Net will keep things up to date is a very good idea: I fear horrible confusion. Just remember how awful it used to be to get gnuplot working before Nick Strobel's NeXTstep driver was included in the distribution. There were at least six disparate drivers on the archives, none of which was usually compatible with the latest gnuplot. Now, of course, there is Robert Davis' excellent Gnuplot.app, which includes pretty much all of the basic gnuplot distribution. If you put a Emacs.app with the entire sources on the archives, I would submit bug reports, and happily stay with Emacs 19.19 until you have time to put out another version. I really wish I could help you somehow, but I am not enough of a programmer. -- Magnus Nordborg magnus@fisher.stanford.edu (NeXT mail preferred) Department of Biological Sciences Stanford University Stanford, CA 94305-5020 +1 (415) 723-4952 (office)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: cew@quark.Stanford.EDU (Carlin E. Wiegner) Subject: Newsgrazer problem.... Message-ID: <1993Oct28.171048.4211@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: Stanford University Date: Thu, 28 Oct 93 17:10:48 GMT I'm having a hard time flipping through old articles because I can only get the articles that I have read since I last booted the program. I want to be able to go back 500 messages or so..... CW Please email replies and I will post summaries....
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: clarance@nshade.uah.ualberta.ca (Clarance Howatt) Subject: SLIP on NSI (fact or fiction) Message-ID: <1993Oct28.184032.13257@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1993 18:40:32 GMT So I have finally made the plunge and am running NSI.(No problems at all) Now I want to take it one step farther. I want to run SLIP (oh my God say it isn't so). Is there currently software to do this? Will there be software for this in the future? Thanks in advance: -- ============================================================ Clarance Howatt Programmer, Information Systems \\\ /// University of Alberta Hospitals \\\ /\ /// WMC 2C2.21, 8440 - 112th Street, \\\ //\\ /// Edmonton, Alberta \\\///\\\///
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dsiebert@icaen.uiowa.edu (Doug Siebert) Subject: Re: How to print Mac postscript stuff on a NeXT? Message-ID: <1993Oct28.190520.20941@icaen.uiowa.edu> Sender: usenet@icaen.uiowa.edu (UseNet News daemon) Organization: Iowa Computer Aided Engineering Network, University of Iowa References: <1993Oct28.035321.16957@icaen.uiowa.edu> <dcodeCFM558.1Jp@netcom.com> Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1993 19:05:20 GMT dcode@netcom.com (Paul Marcos) writes: >In article <1993Oct28.035321.16957@icaen.uiowa.edu> dsiebert@icaen.uiowa.edu (Doug Siebert) writes: >> >>postscript documents others have no trouble with. Maybe NeXT will fix this in >>some manner in a future release (I'm using 3.0) and make their PS >>implementation more robust? Thanks for any help anyone can provide. >> >Instead, fix the Mac end. Use the LaserWriter 8.0 instead of 7.X. It >works *much* better when moving .ps files from a Mac to a NeXT! I think >that you can get the LW8.0 off of public archive sites as well as AOL or >Compuserve. That'd be great if *I* were the one printing PS stuff on my Mac -- I'm not, I get things from others or off the net and can't control (and often don't know) what version of the LaserWriter driver they are using. But I'm glad the newer Mac drivers work better, that means eventually I'll start seeing fewer broken Mac PS items since Macs are selling like crazy and eventually everyone will have a new Mac with new System software ;-) -- Doug Siebert dsiebert@isca.uiowa.edu "Had this been an actual emergency, we would have fled in terror, and you would not have been informed." --Someone more clever than I
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) Subject: Re: Newsgrazer problem.... Message-ID: <1993Oct28.200416.10890@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: Stanford University References: <1993Oct28.171048.4211@leland.Stanford.EDU> Date: Thu, 28 Oct 93 20:04:16 GMT Carlin E. Wiegner writes > I'm having a hard time flipping through old articles because I > can only get the articles that I have read since I last booted > the program. I want to be able to go back 500 messages or so..... Select "show all articles" from the group menu. It will show all unexpired articles. -- - Stefano Pagiola Food Research Institute, Stanford University spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged) spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: magnus@fisher.Stanford.EDU (Magnus Nordborg) Subject: Re: newest WWW-software for NEXTSTEP? Message-ID: <1993Oct28.205906.13089@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: Stanford University References: <1993Oct28.162851.2799@leland.Stanford.EDU> Date: Thu, 28 Oct 93 20:59:06 GMT In article <1993Oct28.162851.2799@leland.Stanford.EDU> magnus@fisher.Stanford.EDU (Magnus Nordborg) writes: > The amount of network information is exploding. The ENORMOUS field > of molecular biology is increasingly dependent on various databases > (like GENBANK). See Science, 1993, 262:502-505 if you don't believe me. Please, please will some innovative NS software company get on this! -- Magnus Nordborg magnus@fisher.stanford.edu (NeXT mail preferred) Department of Biological Sciences Stanford University Stanford, CA 94305-5020 +1 (415) 723-4952 (office)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: FAT Versions Message-ID: <1993Oct28.113151.7272@nic.csu.net> From: vqueved@nssnext.calstatela.edu (Victor Quevedo) Date: 28 Oct 93 11:31:49 PDT Keywords: FAT BINARIES NeXT Black White Is ther a list of Generally available apps that now include FAT binaries. Does anyone have a list of (previously ftp-able apps) that now come in FAT versions? Programs such as ImageViewer...MPEG Player GatorFTP...Wheather App? If there is a list or perhaps a site that has them seperated. Thanks In Advance.. -Victor Quevedo vqueved@nssnext.calstatela.edu (NeXT mail welcome)
From: annard@theborg.stack.urc.tue.nl (Annard Brouwer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: How to print Mac postscript stuff on a NeXT? Date: 28 Oct 1993 22:03:26 GMT Organization: the Borg Distribution: world Message-ID: <2apfje$b2@theborg.stack.urc.tue.nl> References: <1993Oct28.035321.16957@icaen.uiowa.edu> In article <1993Oct28.035321.16957@icaen.uiowa.edu> dsiebert@icaen.uiowa.edu (Doug Siebert) writes: > > Supposedly the NeXT "just works". I don't find that the case > many times when I get postscript stuff printed from a Mac on my > NeXT, however. > It's time for a shameless plug: if you get Tailor.app you can even edit those Macintosh PostScript files and print them on your NeXTSTEP machine. But I would seriously consider to get LaserWriter8.x too! Good luck, Annard -- Give me enough bandwidth and I can transmit the earth. - Annard Brouwer annard@stack.urc.tue.nl (NeXTmail appreciated)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software From: Jamie Zawinski <jwz@lucid.com> Subject: Re: Emacs 19 under NS natively In-Reply-To: cedman@princeton.edu's message of Mon, 25 Oct 1993 19:42:04 GMT Message-ID: <JWZ.93Oct28171918@thalidomide.lucid.com> Sender: usenet@lucid.com Organization: Lucid, Inc., Menlo Park, CA References: <1993Oct24.225053.125583@embl-heidelberg.de> <CEDMAN.93Oct24214909@capitalist.princeton.edu> <SOWA.93Oct25113854@amdew.llnl.gov> <CEDMAN.93Oct25154204@capitalist.princeton.edu> Date: 29 Oct 1993 00:19:18 GMT Carl Edman <cedman@princeton.edu> wrote: > > Not much to tell. Michael Brouwer and I ported emacs 19.19 to run under NS > just as it does under X. It works. Multiple windows/multiple fonts/mouse > support aso. are all there. Even most X based modes like hilit19.el and > others work without modification. You can even compile a single binary > which brings up a NS emacs when double-clicked in the workspace, an X emacs > when started from an xterm and just the standard curses based emacs > otherwise. Sounds great! > The reason it is not on the archives yet is that the Free Software > Foundation and Richard Stallman consider our NeXT port a nuisance at > best and have refused to accept our code. (Sigh.) I would love to see a version of Lucid Emacs that worked with a window system other than X; while redesigning the event loop, we always tried to keep window system independence in mind. (And tried not to make this mean "pretend all window systems are really just fancy dumb-ttys.") If you (or anyone else) would like to try to make similar changes to Lucid Emacs, I'll help out in any way I can (including putting it in the standard distribution.) -- Jamie
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: TIP: dwrite Mail MailFilter to remove unwanted header lines Date: 29 Oct 1993 02:06:39 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Distribution: world Message-ID: <2aptrf$qv4@agate.berkeley.edu> Keywords: Mail, NeXT, NEXTSTEP, header This may already be known, but... If you want to remove mail headers like "X-Vms-To", "Precedence", or "Content-Transfer-Encoding" from appearing in Mail.app, do from Terminal (as one line): dwrite Mail MailFilter "Received:From :Status:Message-Id:Return-Path:Next-Reference:Errors-To:X-Sequence:Precedence:Content-Length:Conten t-Type:X-Vms-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Mime-Version:X-Mailer" (add more as needed separating each item by ":") Then quit Mail.app and restart it. To go back to original Mail.app behavior do: dremove Mail MailFilter Default MailFilter string for 3.0 is: MailFilter "Received:From :Status:Message-Id:Return-Path:Next-Reference" There is also: MailMarker "Subject:From:To:Cc:Attachment:Date:Reply-To:Sender:In-Reply-To" which I don't know the function of, but you can probably guess. -- Izumi Ohzawa [ $@Bg_78^=;(J ] USMail: University of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720 Telephone: (510) 642-6440 Fax: (510) 642-3323 Internet: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (NeXTMail OK)
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: MaillCall from cs.orst. Date: 29 Oct 1993 03:35:39 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <2aq32b$md0@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <1993Oct28.145030.25076@wri.com> In article <1993Oct28.145030.25076@wri.com> markm@wri.com writes: > luomat@alleg.edu (Timothy J. Luoma) writes: > > Does anyone have a working copy of this util? I Ftp'd it from > > cs.orst and it uncompressed and untar'd fine, but it would > > begin to launch and then quit, with no error message or > > anything. The readme did not list an email address for the > > author, so I thought I'd ask if anyone had a working version. To answer Tim's question, there is a fixed up version of MailCall available, version 2.9. The one you found on cs.orst is probably version 2.1. I'm not the original author of MailCall, but I did get the source at some point and fixed a number of bugs. The fixed version is available by ftp-ing to: host eclipse.its.rpi.edu [ ip = 128.113.24.91 ] diretory NeXT file MailCall2.9.tar.Z This program is still only compiled for NeXT hardware. I don't remember if I ever uploaded it to cs.orst or sonata. I intended too, but I wanted to contact the original author first. He hasn't written back to me though. > First, I'm pretty sure Mail Call doesn't run under 3.x. The behavior of Mail.app changed under release 3.1 (not 3.0), in that the spool file is now removed after Mail.app gets the new mail. This causes MailCall to crash, because it's always assumed the spool file existed. This is one of the bugs fixed in version 2.9. > Second, I wouldn't recommend that anyone still running 2.x use > the program. I discovered that it can do nasty things if just > the right things happen in at the right time. I use MailCall 2.9 on a NS-2.1 system, and on a NS-3.0 system. Seems to work fine. And I get a lot of email on that NS-2.1 system. > As far as I can > tell, if a message is being written to your mail spool file > (/usr/spool/mail/username), at the same time that Mail.app is > trying to retrieve new messages, at the same time the MailCall > is checking the spool file for new messages, all subsequent > messages will get dumped straight into the proverbial bit-bucket. I've never had this happen to me (even though I'd love it if it did...). I stayed logged in for days at a time, and given the amount of mail I receive I have to be hitting that combo frequently enough to notice. And since I do stay logged in for days at a time, I'd really notice if all subsequent mail was bit-bucketted. Still, I've wondered if there's some locking step I should add to MailCall. I haven't bothered to yet, but maybe I should check closer into it. What kinda locking do the mail programs (sendmail, mail, Mail.app, etc) use for that spool file? -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) Subject: Re: How to print Mac postscript stuff on a NeXT? Message-ID: <1993Oct29.051549.27118@csus.edu> Sender: news@csus.edu Organization: San Francisco State University References: <1993Oct28.035321.16957@icaen.uiowa.edu> <dcodeCFM558.1Jp@netcom.com> <1993Oct28.190520.20941@icaen.uiowa.edu> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1993 05:15:49 GMT In article <1993Oct28.190520.20941@icaen.uiowa.edu> dsiebert@icaen.uiowa.edu (Doug Siebert) writes: >That'd be great if *I* were the one printing PS stuff on my Mac -- I'm not, >I get things from others or off the net and can't control (and often don't >know) what version of the LaserWriter driver they are using. Apple screwed up. Apple fixed it. Granted, they took their sweet time, but they *did* fix it. It's not NeXT's responsibility to deal with the problem--it's not NeXT's problem, nor it it a NeXT-specific problem. Apple screwed up. If you are hopelessly stuck with broken documents, there is FREE software available that will help: Anonymous FTP from sumex-aim.stanford.edu info-mac/prn/macps-23-unix.shar You'll still want to upgrade your Mac printing software to get "new" features like n-Up printing (which we in the NeXT community have had for years, heh heh), etc. -=EPS=-
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jblue@ocotillo.mitre.org (Jason D. Blue) Subject: Re: MaillCall from cs.orst. Message-ID: <1993Oct28.223054.18332@linus.mitre.org> Sender: news@linus.mitre.org (News Service) Organization: The MITRE Corporation References: <1993Oct28.145030.25076@wri.com> Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1993 22:30:54 GMT > In article <2ankad$od9@ftp.alleg.edu> luomat@alleg.edu (Timothy J. Luoma) > writes: > > > > > > Does anyone have a working copy of this util? I Ftp'd it from cs.orst > > and it uncompressed and untar'd fine, but it would begin to launch and > > then quit, with no error message or anything. The readme did not list > > an email address for the author, so I thought I'd ask if anyone had a > > working version. > > > > It is on pub/next/binaries/util if anyone is interested. > > MailCall works fine under 3.0. The 'feature' you describe is what happens when you do not have a /usr/spool/mail/user for the user who is running MailCall. NeXT Mail.app will make sure to leave the file behind even if it is empty, but UNIX (BSD) mail is not as nice, and that is when MailCall will disappear on you. At least that is the only way I have ever been able to make it disappear. The fix is simple: touch /usr/spool/mail/$user Jason -- Jason D. Blue NeXT Network and Systems Administrator The MITRE Corporation, McLean, VA jblue@mitre.org (NeXT Mail Encouraged!) Parasplats, TIP#081, IPPA#7341
From: neuss@igd.fhg.de (Christian Neuss ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: SpaceWar.app Date: 29 Oct 93 09:59:33 GMT Organization: IGD Darmstadt Message-ID: <neuss.751888773@ramazzotti> References: <2amo19$64d@gap.cco.caltech.edu> ernest@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu (Ernest Prabhakar) writes: >Hello, >I remember a question being asked about this, but I'm not sure where. >Hopefully the curious person will see this. Also, the author did not >include an email address, so I can't send him my comments directly. >SpaceWar is a $5 shareware game by John Hermann (Abilene, Texas). As >far as I know, this is the only two-player NeXTSTEP arcade-style game, >and certainly worth the money as that. However, that is about all, >which is a real shame because the game has great potential. [munch] Neato.. a nice game would sure be worth the five bux. But.. uh.. where can one pick this up? Is it available on some archive? Cheers, Chris
From: jhermann@node_24045.dadd.ti.com (John Hermann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: ShareWare game: SpaceWar.app Date: 29 Oct 1993 13:12:42 GMT Organization: Design Automation Division, Texas Instruments. Message-ID: <2ar4sa$qq1@barracuda.dadd.ti.com> Keywords: game space OK, I have a confession. I am the programmer of SpaceWar.app I posted the article inquiring whether it was worth $5. I wrote the game because I didn't have anything better to do. That is the reason it is rough. Also, I couldn't understand why I didn't have a single person want to keep the program. My roommate and I played that thing for hours on end. It was kind of like an obsession. My roomy was the one that thought I should put it on the net. He said that it was definitely worth $5. I am not a CS major, so my programming methods have much to be desired. Consequently the program has some limitations. I invite you to "try" the game for yourself to see. If you don't like it you can delete it. However, understand that quite a bit of time (primarily weekends) was invested to develope the game. I might eventually make the changes suggested by people who read this news group. There was a comment about the keys not being user defineable. I admit I liked the way I had it set up, and I didn't anticipate anybody not liking it. Also, I didn't add sounds, because I have the problem of game play slowing down terribly due to the sound methods. You can send your comments to: jherman@ee.tamu.edu (This is a temporary account; Yes, I am an ex-Aggie) Best Wishes, John Hermann
From: burton@pion (Joshua W. Burton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Mamakos DialupIP w/ dynamic IP numbers??? Date: 29 Oct 1993 14:38:57 GMT Organization: Brown University Physics Department Distribution: world Message-ID: <2ar9u1$6jp@cat.cis.Brown.EDU> I just downloaded Louis Mamakos's SLIP package, and have been trying to set it up to give me SLIP access to my Internet-linked university account from my stand-alone NeXTcube at home. Problem: I come in through a modem pool to a term server that assigns me an IP number dynamically. The documentation for the SLIP package assumes that I will know my IP number (and the remote machine's) in advance, so I can put it in the config.slip file. 1st Question: Am I scrod from the start? If there is no way to use dynamic addresses with this package, would some kind soul please clue me in, so I don't tear out a lot of hairs I'd be better off keeping? 2nd Question: Assuming that I _can_ configure DialupIP to understand the number that the remote site is assigning me, there must be someone who has done this all before. Could you please email me a copy of your config.slip, your diald.conf, and any other relevant files, and explain briefly to me what you did? I'll post a summary...or perhaps this belongs in the FAQ? Thanks! Looking forward to saying goodbye to C-Kermit.... And I said, with my Net +-------------------------------+ I can get them, I bet. | Joshua W Burton 401/435-6370 | I bet with my Net I can get those Things yet! | burton@het.brown.edu | -- The Cat in the Hat (or was it a gopher?) +-------------------------------+
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software From: gsk@world.std.com (Geoffrey S Knauth) Subject: problem posting from NewsGrazer Message-ID: <CFnyL3.37J@world.std.com> Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1993 14:51:01 GMT Posting from NewsGrazer, I get the following error: Post failed: canonhdr: ^A^C^A^K@: not found canonhdr: T: not found canonhdr: syntax error at line 3: `^W' unexpected /projects/knownet/news/newsbin/inject/injnews: article in /home/gsk/dead.article If you know why this is happening, please send email to "gsk@marble.com". Thank you! Geoffrey -- Geoffrey S. Knauth, Marble Associates, Inc. Member BCS-NeXT, LPF gsk@marble.com, (617) 891-5555 Standard Disclaimers
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: hj@bach (Henrique Joao Lopes Domingos) Subject: www client Message-ID: <1993Oct28.160934.13715@fct.unl.pt> Sender: news@fct.unl.pt (USENET News System) Organization: Universidade Nova de Lisboa, PORTUGAL Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1993 16:09:34 GMT Hello ... Where can I get a NextStep www client (if exists) ? thanks. /hj _________ --------- |____________________________________ | = = |-----------------------------------|| | |__| | Henrique Joao L. Domingos || | |Joao | hj@fct.unl.pt || | = = |-----------------------------------| --------- --------------------------------------------------------------- Dep. de Informatica - Fac. de Ciencias e Tecnologia Universidade Nova de Lisboa - Monte da Caparica ---------------------------------------------------------------
From: eullman@saturn (Eric Ullman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NewsGrazer for Intel Date: 29 Oct 1993 14:40:51 GMT Organization: Rogers Communications Distribution: NA Message-ID: <2ara1j$pfb@mail.Rogers.Com> Is there a version of NewsGrazer that runs on Intel? Eric Ullman eullman@corpit.cantel.rogers.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: michal@gortel (Michal Jaegermann) Subject: Re: GIF or TIFF to EPS Message-ID: <1993Oct29.161552.21963@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada References: <2ami42$hr@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1993 16:15:52 GMT Mark Nathan Broadie (mnb2@konichiwa.cc.columbia.edu) wrote: : : I have some pictures created on a PC that I would like to : move to my NeXT and include in a TeX document. The pictures : (screen captures) are .GIF files that I can translate to .EPS : files using ImageViewer or Create. Unfortunately, the tiny : .GIF files (e.g., 12K) are save as huge .EPS files (e.g., 1.5M), I had pretty good results including into TeX various pictures in many PC graphics formats using bm2font program. C sources for the current version should be available from ftp.shsu.edu, or any other of CTAN archives. A version I tried compiled on NeXT without problems. The program generates a font, in pk format, needed to produce a picture, a metric file for this this font, and a TeX code you have to insert in your TeX sources to get a printout. The code is generic enough to work with most (all?) TeX macro packages without any modifications. Disadvantages: - created fonts are resolution dependent, so you will have to make separate pk's for printing and previewing; a simple shell script took care about all my need, but if you are printing on linotype these font files will be big once again; in the later case you may also run out of "letters" and you will have to hack the program itself - TeXview often gets spooked and shows pretty strange pictures, but they print fine on a printer - no GUI (this can be listed under "Advantages", depending on your leanings :-)). Michal
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,gnu.misc.discuss From: trebels@PROBLEM_WITH_INEWS_GATEWAY_FILE (Stephan Trebels) Subject: Re: Emacs 19 under NS natively (was: Get events without [NXApp run]?) Message-ID: <V2NIBDPQ@gwdu03.gwdg.de> Sender: news@gwdu03.gwdg.de (USENET News System) Organization: GWDG, Goettingen References: <BEN.93Oct27225957@fizz.fdn.org> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1993 17:18:24 GMT Benoit Grange (ben@fizz.fdn.org) wrote: > In article <CEDMAN.93Oct25154204@capitalist.princeton.edu> > cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes: > > The reason it is not on the archives yet is that the Free Software > Foundation and Richard Stallman consider our NeXT port a nuisance > at best and have refused to accept our code. > > I don't really understand why the FSF does not 'accept' it. Put this > code into the "unsupported goodies". Or publish it elsewere. I agree, VMS is also no open OS and there have always been VMS Changes. But anyway, please put these changes to the archives. It could be called "example patch for emacs 19.19 NS". If a Readme states clearly, that these patches are NOT SUPPORTED and NO QUESTIONS are answered, I can't see any problem for you. Of course this should be placed on the NeXTSTEP archives, not the FSF archives. If RMS doesn't want this in the emacs distribution, ok! It's his choice, but I *do* believe, that there will be a race for creating new patches whenever a new version of emacs is released by FSF. Look at the development of Linux. There is no need for a regular maintainance. This would be nice, but try without it now! Give the community of NeXTSTEP programmers a chance. Anything that helps other people *today*, should be given to the community, even if RMS doesn't want this. I would love to see it. Ciao, Stephan -- trebels@theo-phys.gwdg.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dushyant@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Dushyant Pathak) Subject: Re: WordPerfect Message-ID: <1993Oct29.173757.4733@cs.yale.edu> Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News) Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT References: <2amdfh$747@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1993 17:37:57 GMT In article <2amdfh$747@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> rjackson@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Randy W Jackson) writes: > The really bad news is that WordPerfect for NeXT doesn't even recognize the > WordPerfect 6.0 file format. So, if you are working on a DOS platform in 6.0, > save the file and try to read it into WP for NeXT, you lose. At least when the > DOS versions were 5.x, you could open all DOS (WP) files, even if some > attributes were marked as "unknown." > > So, let's hope that WP does eventually provide a 6.0 compatible version for > NeXT! > > Randy Jackson > jackson+@osu.edu I'm afraid I don't quite understand what the flap is about. Wordperfect hasn't stated that they have "discontinued" development for NeXTStep, simply that they have "frozen" it. What is frozen can thaw. I suspect they're responding to the fact that NeXT, in their infinite ( and already proven !!) marketing wisdom, have decided not to target the general personal computer user, but rather specialist cerporate accounts, and WordPerfect is waiting to see how and where this progresses. Additionally, WordPerfect is backwards compatible and permits you to save your documents in 5.0/5.1 format which can be read by WordPerfect for Next and WordPerfect for Windows and WordPerfect for Mac. Therefore all you have to do is save your document in this standard format and transfer to whichever platform you want to. What is a problem is that NeXT is once again shooting itself in the foot by following a marketing policy or non-policy seemingly designed to alienate "mainstream" users and developers alike. In its present incarnation NeXT runs the risk of alienating members, like myself, of the tiny niche market of non-specialized mainstream personal computer users who have been fans of NeXTstep since the days of the CUBE. *********************************************************************** Dushyant Pathak * phone: 203-432-9771 Yale University * fax: MB&B Dept. * 235 BCMSB * 260 Whitney Avenue *
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dushyant@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Dushyant Pathak) Subject: Re: WordPerfect Message-ID: <1993Oct29.173516.4607@cs.yale.edu> Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News) Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT References: <2amdfh$747@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1993 17:35:16 GMT In article <2amdfh$747@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> rjackson@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Randy W Jackson) writes: > The really bad news is that WordPerfect for NeXT doesn't even recognize the > WordPerfect 6.0 file format. So, if you are working on a DOS platform in 6.0, > save the file and try to read it into WP for NeXT, you lose. At least when the > DOS versions were 5.x, you could open all DOS (WP) files, even if some > attributes were marked as "unknown." > > So, let's hope that WP does eventually provide a 6.0 compatible version for > NeXT! > > Randy Jackson > jackson+@osu.edu I'm afraid I don't quite understand what the flap is about. Wordperfect hasn't stated that they have "discontinued" development for NeXTStep, simply that they have "frozen" it. What is frozen can thaw. I suspect they're responding to the fact that NeXT, in their infinite ( and already proven !!) marketing wisdom, have decided not to target the general personal computer user, but rather specialist cerporate accounts, and WordPerfect is waiting to see how and where this progresses. Additionally, WordPerfect is backwards compatible and permits you to save your documents in 5.0/5.1 format which can be read by WordPerfect for Next and WordPerfect for Windows and WordPerfect for Mac. Therefore all you have to do is save your document in this standard format and transfer to whichever platform you want to. What is a problem is that NeXT is once again shooting itself in the foot by following a marketing policy or non-policy seemingly designed to alienate "mainstream" users and developers alike. In its present incarnation NeXT runs the risk of alienating members, like myself, of the tiny niche market of non-specialized mainstream personal computer users who have been fans of NeXTstep since the days of the CUBE. *********************************************************************** Dushyant Pathak * phone: 203-432-9771 Yale University * fax: MB&B Dept. * 235 BCMSB * 260 Whitney Avenue *
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dan@visix.COM (Daniel Appelquist) Subject: Public Domain X Server? Sender: news@visix.com Message-ID: <CFo76t.Lxv@visix.com> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1993 17:56:53 GMT Organization: Visix Software, Reston, Virginia Seems like this should be on a FAQ, but if so I can't find it. Is there a public domain X server that will work on a NeXTstation Turbo COLOR (black hardware, obviously)? Thanks! Dan dan@visix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dushyant@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Dushyant Pathak) Subject: Re: WordPerfect Message-ID: <1993Oct29.191752.5996@cs.yale.edu> Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News) Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT References: <2amdfh$747@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1993 19:17:52 GMT In article <2amdfh$747@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> rjackson@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Randy W Jackson) writes: > The really bad news is that WordPerfect for NeXT doesn't even recognize the > WordPerfect 6.0 file format. So, if you are working on a DOS platform in 6.0, > save the file and try to read it into WP for NeXT, you lose. At least when the > DOS versions were 5.x, you could open all DOS (WP) files, even if some > attributes were marked as "unknown." > > So, let's hope that WP does eventually provide a 6.0 compatible version for > NeXT! > > Randy Jackson > jackson+@osu.edu I'm afraid I don't quite understand what the flap is about. Wordperfect hasn't stated that they have "discontinued" development for NeXTStep, simply that they have "frozen" it. What is frozen can thaw. I suspect they're responding to the fact that NeXT, in their infinite ( and already proven !!) marketing wisdom, have decided not to target the general personal computer user, but rather specialist cerporate accounts, and WordPerfect is waiting to see how and where this progresses. Additionally, WordPerfect is backwards compatible and permits you to save your documents in 5.0/5.1 format which can be read by WordPerfect for Next and WordPerfect for Windows and WordPerfect for Mac. Therefore all you have to do is save your document in this standard format and transfer to whichever platform you want to. What is a problem is that NeXT is once again shooting itself in the foot by following a marketing policy or non-policy seemingly designed to alienate "mainstream" users and developers alike. In its present incarnation NeXT runs the risk of alienating members, like myself, of the tiny niche market of non-specialized mainstream personal computer users who have been fans of NeXTstep since the days of the CUBE. -- *********************************************************************** Dushyant Pathak * phone: 203-432-9771 Yale University * fax: MB&B Dept. * 235 BCMSB * 260 Whitney Avenue *
From: jhermann@node_24045.dadd.ti.com (John Hermann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: ShareWare game: SpaceWar.app Date: 29 Oct 1993 18:55:15 GMT Organization: Design Automation Division, Texas Instruments. Message-ID: <2arouj$7br@barracuda.dadd.ti.com> In response to availability... The program SpaceWar.app can be taken via anonymous ftp from: cs.orst.edu. It is located under: /pub/next/binaries/games/SpaceWar.app.tar.Z
From: bill@alamut.cognet.ucla.edu (William M. Eldridge) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP upgrade goofiness... Date: 29 Oct 1993 12:54:40 -0700 Organization: UCLA Cognitive Science Research Program Message-ID: <2arse0$lin@alamut.cognet.ucla.edu> References: <1993Oct22.204935.14238@abulafia.in-berlin.de> <2ac4fn$4t6@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> The problem is that I don't know if I even want 3.2, since Appleshare (which I use a lot) and the Novell Netware clients are going away, and from what I see, 3.0 seems sufficient. Unfortunately, we have no guarantee that academic prices for 4.0 will be this low, and maybe, just maybe the upgrade price will be worth it. Considering we bought our TurboColors in January, this is rather a pain in the ass. Someone expressed no sympathy for anyone who hadn't upgraded yet, but it's rather irritating to have to pay $180 per machine upgrades for a $7000 machine you just bought. An upgrade with fewer features (though with bug fixes). And if Next had had its shit together, it would have at least offered the 3.2 upgrade before, instead of spending part of its income on sending out 3.1 copies that people won't install, because they're not really buying 3.1 - they're buying 3.2. Is this just a marketing ploy, so they can tout the number of 3.1 sales? (sounds like a Microsoft trick). Wouldn't pre-release sales of 3.2 be just as impressive, or would that have prevented counting sales twice? -- Bill Eldridge "Hung with care bill@cognet.ucla.edu by a jury de rigeur" 310-206-3960 (3987 fax) ..................
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Wanted: Truetype -> NeXT fonts... Message-ID: <john-291093150506@johnppp.byu.edu> From: john@compricorn.byu.edu (John K. Peterson) Date: 29 Oct 93 15:11:38 -0700 Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software References: <1993Oct26.094123.8167@iitmax.iit.edu> <1993Oct27.144244.5256@altsys.com> Distribution: world Organization: Brigham Young University In article <1993Oct27.144244.5256@altsys.com>, lorinr@altsys.com (Lorin Rivers III) wrote: > each character (TT is based on quadratic not bezier curves) so the It probably doesn't really matter, but just for correctness--TrueType is based on quadradic bezier curves and Type 1 PostScript on cubic bezier curves. The difference being that a quadradic requires three control points and a cubic four. jp
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: claire@cubx.com (Claire Normand) Subject: Re: Having a couple of problems with Cub'X Message-ID: <1993Oct27.175121.2440@cubx.com> Sender: news@cubx.com Organization: Cub'x Systemes - Rueil Malmaison, France. Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1993 17:51:21 GMT In comp.sys.next.software article <1993Oct26.214247.12689@leland.Stanford.EDU> you wrote: > I'm having a couple problems with Cub'X.... > > I can't get it to actually run X Windows....I hit Command-r and the > cursor spins and then the dialog box pops up that says I can run Cub'X > again bypressing Command-r again. I'm trying to run it in interactive > mode..... 1. Did you run the following command : /usr/bin/X11/installX to set up the X Window environment in your home directory? 2. If yes, did you reboot your computer? This is required in order to install in the kernel the device driver which permits to speed up Cub'X-Window. > Second of all, I got it to run once in take-over (outside NeXTSTEP) mode > and tried to run netrek and all it said was the font 6X10 missing. How > can I check if this is true? The size of Cub'X-Window Demo has been reduced to the minimum so it can easily be downloaded from ftp sites. To provide the smallest possible package, the demo presents very limited apps and fonts. If you have another computer in the network which runs an X Window environment, you can use the following command on this computer : xlsfonts -display mynext:0 where mynext is your NeXT computer or PC that runs Cub'X-Window. You can also check the fonts included in Cub'X-Window Demo in /usr/lib/X11/fonts. Regards, Claire Normand Intuitive Technologies - new name of Cub'x Systemes Immeuble Sedgwick 7, Rue E. & A. Peugeot 92563 Rueil Malmaison Cedex - France +33 1 47 08 74 40 +33 1 47 08 74 41 fax claire@cubx.com (NeXTmail welcome)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,su.computers.next From: tamarind@leland.Stanford.EDU (Ranjini Ramachandran) Subject: CAP 6.0 on NexTStep3.0 Message-ID: <1993Oct29.220846.28880@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: Stanford University, California Distribution: ba Date: Fri, 29 Oct 93 22:08:46 GMT I'm having problems installing CAP6 on a NeXT3.0? No problems during the install. I ran aarpd. I start atis, and start-cap-servers ( which starts aufs among other things, I suppose...) and set up the afpvols, etc.,etc., The fileserver never shows up in the Chooser and also, the "getzones" program that is supposed to give a list of zones, returns an error; error -1096 getting zone list Any suggestions? ( an e-mail messahe would be highly appreciated...) Thanks Ranjini
From: karthy@dannug.dk (Karsten Thygesen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mailing List Software Date: 29 Oct 1993 20:32:24 GMT Organization: Dannug - Danish NeXT Users Group Message-ID: <KARTHY.93Oct29213224@dannug.dannug.dk> References: <2a24i9$t4s@ftp.alleg.edu> <1993Oct22.025852.25240@antigone.com> <jladwig.751291680@saturn> In-reply-to: jladwig@soils.umn.edu's message of Fri, 22 Oct 1993 12:08:00 GMT >>>>> On Fri, 22 Oct 1993 12:08:00 GMT, jladwig@soils.umn.edu (John Ladwig) said: John> In <1993Oct22.025852.25240@antigone.com> mross@antigone.com writes: John> Unix ListProc (note new name please), is running *extremely* well for John> me on NeXTSTEP 2.1, and I have reports that it runs well on 3.0, but John> I'm not sure about 3.1. Just for the record: it works just great on 3.1 - no problems at all except the NeXT lack of locks... We use it internally in the Danish NeXT User Group to distribute both local and global information. It's a great program!! Regards, Karsten. -- Karsten Thygesen I Aalborg, Denmark karthy@dannug.dk (NeXT-Mail welcome) I Voice: +45 98 12 42 59 President, Danish NeXT Users Group I Fax: +45 98 12 44 81
From: richard@cicero.jpl.nasa.gov ( Richard Weidner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Anybody build gcc 2.5.0a on NS 3.1? (g++ hosed) Date: 29 Oct 1993 23:25:08 GMT Organization: Image Analysis Systems Group, JPL Distribution: usa Message-ID: <2as8ok$oif@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov> I have just built gcc2.5.0a on NS3.1 on Black Hardware. It works ok for hello world and building itelf. But g++ does not work. It fails due to internal errors. I can not build libg++ because gcc fails when trying to compile it. I have already mailed a not to FSF, but I would be interested in any information someone in the NeXT community might have. Thanks Richard
From: brunkhorst@mayo.edu (Geoff Brunkhorst) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: WordPerfect Date: 29 Oct 1993 23:52:27 GMT Organization: Mayo Foundation Distribution: world Message-ID: <2asabr$ep9@fermat.mayo.edu> References: <1993Oct29.191752.5996@cs.yale.edu> In article <1993Oct29.191752.5996@cs.yale.edu> dushyant@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Dushyant Pathak) writes: > I'm afraid I don't quite understand what the flap is about. > Wordperfect hasn't stated that they have "discontinued" development for > NeXTStep, simply that they have "frozen" it. What is frozen can thaw. I > suspect they're responding to the fact that NeXT, in their infinite ( and > already proven !!) marketing wisdom, have decided not to target the > general personal computer user, but rather specialist cerporate accounts, > and WordPerfect is waiting to see how and where this progresses. Officially WP has nevered stated a delivery date for an upgrade beyond WP 1.0 (1.0.1 is a bug-fix, in their eyes, and never added features) I talked with WP today, and yes, they are looking for people to write their Unix Marketing Group to solicit WP to change their mind and continue work on WP 6.0 on the NeXT. > Additionally, WordPerfect is backwards compatible and permits you > to save your documents in 5.0/5.1 format which can be read by WordPerfect > for Next and WordPerfect for Windows and WordPerfect for Mac. Therefore > all you have to do is save your document in this standard format and > transfer to whichever platform you want to. That's not portable. I lose my equations and my tables. Usually 5 pages of text is easy to retype. 1 table or 1 equation (in WP) will take the same amount of time as those 5 pages to type in. 5.0 is not 5.1 or 6.0. THIS IS SOMETHING PROMISED BY WORDPERFECT SINCE THE 1.0 NEXT RELEASE. My groups are being forced to buy other solutions because they can't collaborate with other 'standard' WordPerfect users. 1.0.1 is not enough for me to stay with WP on the NeXT. Or NeXT for that matter (anybody at NeXT listening). WP and NeXTSTEP are not on my list of offered choices. - Geoff ----------------------------------------------------------------- Geoffrey Brunkhorst brunkhorst@Mayo.edu Research Computing Facility, Guggenheim 10 (507) 284-1805 Mayo Foundation, Rochester MN, 55905, USA fax (507) 284-5231
From: scwg0600@ih-nxt01.cso.uiuc.edu (Steven C Weintz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: WordPerfect Date: 30 Oct 1993 01:26:25 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Distribution: world Message-ID: <2asfs1$csa@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <2asabr$ep9@fermat.mayo.edu> In article <2asabr$ep9@fermat.mayo.edu> brunkhorst@mayo.edu (Geoff Brunkhorst) writes: [...] > I talked with WP today, and yes, they are looking for people to write > their Unix Marketing Group to solicit WP to change their mind and > continue work on WP 6.0 on the NeXT. So, upon whom do we vent our spleen (Oops, I mean inquire of further product development)? Steve Weintz scwg0600@sumter.cso.uiuc.edu
From: kenr@shl.com (Ken Rossen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: SLIP on NSI (fact or fiction) Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1993 21:49:45 -0500 Organization: SHL Systemhouse Message-ID: <kenr-291093214945@slip-kjr.shl.com> References: <1993Oct28.184032.13257@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> In article <1993Oct28.184032.13257@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>, clarance@nshade.uah.ualberta.ca (Clarance Howatt) wrote: > So I have finally made the plunge and am running NSI.(No problems at all) > Now I want to take it one step farther. I want to run SLIP (oh my God > say it isn't so). Is there currently software to do this? Will there be > software for this in the future? This gets asked so much that it seems silly not to post the following auto-generated reply I got in response to my inquiry about SLIP and NS/I. I have no association with TransSys, other than waiting eagerly to be a customer. What I don't know is when it will be available. "Real soon," it says. When is "real soon??" If others have comparable packages in the works, let's hear about it! -- KENR@SHL.COM -----Begin forwarded messages: From: TransSys Information Robot <info@TransSys.COM> To: Ken Rossen <kenr@shl.com> Precedence: bulk X-Auto-Reply: for message <Mailstrom.1.03.25218.15089.kenr@shl.com> This is an experimental service. In case of problems or errors, please notify postmaster@TransSys.COM In-Reply-To: your message <Mailstrom.1.03.25218.15089.kenr@shl.com> of Sat, 23 Oct 93 22:36:50 -0500 Subject: INFO REPLY - general In reference to your message on the subject: Info on SLIP for Intel TransSys PNI Info (Thu Oct 21 23:13:34 EDT 1993) Thank you for your inquiry regarding TransSys SLIP/CSLIP software. Due to the many requests for information received lately, I've resorted to a "form letter" which may answer some of the questions you might have. If I've missed something, please drop me an email message, and I'll be happy to provide more details. TransSys DialUp-IP ================== TransSys DialUp-IP is an SLIP (Serial Line IP) and CSLIP (SLIP with Van Jacboson TCP Header Compression) implementation for Motorola-based NeXTSTEP systems only. The current version is 920904-A, which will run on the 2.0, 2.1, 2.2, 3.0 and 3.1 releases of NeXTSTEP. It is not yet been tested on release 3.2 of NeXTSTEP for Motorola platforms. TransSys DialUp-IP is available in two forms. First, a SLIP-only version can be obtained at no cost via Internet anonymous FTP from the following archive sites: CS.ORST.EDU /pub/next/binaries/comm/SLIP_920904-A.tar SONATA.CC.PURDUE.EDU FTP /pub/next/2.0/binaries/SLIP19920904A This version is a fully functional SLIP implementation and has no limitations on its use. The CSLIP version of this package can be licensed at an additional cost from TransSys, Inc. It is identical to the SLIP version with the additional capability of use the TCP header compression varient of SLIP, commonly refered to as "CSLIP". CSLIP reduces the size of the TCP and IP headers on the "wire", making interactive sessions over a SLIP connection much more responsive. The CSLIP license is available for $150.00 ($75.00 for an educational-site user). A demo license key can be obtained prior to licensing the CSLIP version. (Please note that the demo license included in the FTP archive site version has expired and won't work; contact TransSys to obtain one.) An order form is included in the software distribution that is available for anonymous FTP. TransSys PNI ============ A new implementation of TransSys SLIP/CSLIP networking software is currently being worked on. The tenatively name for this package is ``TransSys PNI''. (PNI - Pseudo Network Interface) The new software package is a complete reimplementation of the TransSys DialUp-IP software which has been available and in wide use for some time now on NeXT computer systems. TransSys PNI will support NEXTSTEP/Intel as well as continuing to support NeXT's "black" Motorola based hardware. It will also support additional serial I/O devices, such as TTYDSP and various SCSI-attached serial port expansion devices. Along with this is support for doing SLIP connections OVER rlogin/telnet sessions (that is, using ptys). These were some of the more requested features. The new software, however, goes much futher than this; it contains very sophisticated IP packet filtering for transmitted and received packets. It is also possible to create IP "tunnels"; that is, rather than sending the packets out a serial port, they can be wrapped up in UDP datagrams and sent out over any existing network connection. This can be used to create private network that are "layered" over existing IP networks. Another feature is to add a layer of security or assurance to protect the data being transmitted over tunnels or links from tampering. Various mechanisms can be used, such as cryptographically strong digest algorithm (MD5). It is also possible to DES encrypt the data to protect against tampering as well as eavesdropping. It is not yet clear if that software can be sold without registering as a supplier of "defense articles" to be in compliance with various nasty-looking regulations. Sigh. Questions and answers: When can you get it? Not yet, but Real Soon. I'm stil doing a bit of development and beta testing. The software is stable, though there are some features that are not yet completely implemented. Because of the large interest and demand for an NeXTSTEP/Intel SLIP product, an early, intrim version will be made available which is still incomplete. How much will this cost? Final pricing has not yet been done, but I expect that versions of the software which have equivalent functions to the ``TransSys Dial-Up IP'' software package will cost about the same. That means that Just Plain SLIP will (still) be free; a version that does CSLIP will be in the $150-$200 range. Versions that do the fancy packet filtering, IP tunnels, and DES encryption will be more. Does it work on Intel platforms? Yes, it seems to. It has not been extensively tested on the serial ports, and there are reports that the tty drivers in NEXTSTEP 3.1 hang the machine under load. You will certainly need the updated serial drivers. All the other features seem to be working (DES encryption, tunnels, packet filters, SLIP/CSLIP, etc). What about existing licensees of TransSys DialUp-IP? Existing customers that have license TransSys DialUp-IP software at any time in the past are entitled to a free upgrade to the new version (maybe a few dollars for a floppy if you can't get it from an FTP archive site). How about PPP? There are plans to implement PPP (the IETF Point-to-Point Protocol), and that was in fact one of the major factors for a complete reimplementation rather than just a port or modifications to the existing software. The new software will allow a PPP module to be quite literally "dropped in" as an Objective-C loadable class from a bundle, just like SLIP/CSLIP is done in the new version. Louis Mamakos TransSys, Inc.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,su.computers.next From: neilc@wallaby.stanford.edu (Neil Crellin) Subject: Re: CAP 6.0 on NexTStep3.0 In-Reply-To: tamarind@leland.Stanford.EDU's message of Fri, 29 Oct 93 22:08:46 GMT Message-ID: <NEILC.93Oct29200849@wallaby.stanford.edu> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: Department of Statistics, Stanford University References: <1993Oct29.220846.28880@leland.Stanford.EDU> Distribution: ba Date: 30 Oct 1993 03:08:49 GMT tamarind@leland.Stanford.EDU (Ranjini Ramachandran) writes: I'm having problems installing CAP6 on a NeXT3.0? No problems during the install. I ran aarpd. I start atis, and start-cap-servers ( which starts aufs among other things, I suppose...) and set up the afpvols, etc.,etc., The fileserver never shows up in the Chooser and also, the "getzones" program that is supposed to give a list of zones, returns an error; error -1096 getting zone list Check you have the 4 at-* services in the 200 range in your netinfo services. Read the CAP FAQ or Networking's notes on CAP to figure out which is at-zip, at-nbp, at-rtmp, etc. Don't forget to niload the services, and make sure that in HostManager you've set your subnet mask as 255.255.0.0 and your broadcast address as 35.<subnet>.255.255. -Neil, ResComputing
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software From: speters@samsun.us.oracle.com (Stephen Peters) Subject: Re: Emacs 19 under NS natively In-Reply-To: Jamie Zawinski's message of 29 Oct 1993 00:19:18 GMT Message-ID: <SPETERS.93Oct29172254@samsun.us.oracle.com> Sender: usenet@oracle.us.oracle.com (Oracle News Poster) Organization: Oracle Corporation., Redwood City, CA, USA References: <1993Oct24.225053.125583@embl-heidelberg.de> <CEDMAN.93Oct24214909@capitalist.princeton.edu> <SOWA.93Oct25113854@amdew.llnl.gov> <CEDMAN.93Oct25154204@capitalist.princeton.edu> <JWZ.93Oct28171918@thalidomide.lucid.com> Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1993 00:22:54 GMT at Oracle Corporation. The opinions expressed are those of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle. Those still following this debate might like to know that RMS just posted his position on supporting NeXT code within the FSF releases of Emacs to gnu.misc.discuss. Those interested can look it up -- the message ID is <9310292352.AA28989@mole.gnu.ai.mit.edu>. To summarize it here, he basically states that there is no reason that the NeXT support for Emacs can't release it, but feels that incorporating specific NS support into FSF Emacs would be a mistake, simply because NS will not be part of the future GNU O/S, and supporting NS would simply take away time towards their eventual goal. Also, he states that he regards the VMS decision as having done "more harm than good", and does not wish to repeat the mistake. Stephen Peters
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: john@wpa.com (John Bartley) Subject: Oracle tools for NEXTSTEP? Message-ID: <CFp8Gr.KM5@nimno.wpa.com> Sender: john@nimno.wpa.com (John Bartley) Organization: Workgroup Productivity Associates Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1993 07:22:01 GMT PC Magazine, Nov. 9, 1993 issue, page 294, commenting on Oracle Cooperative Development Environment (CDE), states: "Oracle is also pursuing an aggressive cross-platform strategy. At press time, Windows was the only client platform supported, but ports of the full tool bundle are under way for a braod range of clients, including Macintosh, NeXTStep (sic), and many Unix flavors. All are slated to ship by year's end." I'm a little skeptical of this claim with respect to NS. It took Oracle a long time to finally get a server available for black hardware. Unless a miracle has happened recently, I'm not aware of any work being done on NS versions of their toolset, so I just wonder how they'll suddenly have all this out by the end of the year. Anybody know the inside scoop on this? It would be great to see, but based on Oracle's past performance and previously stated philosophy with respect to Oracle tools for NS it just doesn't seem likely.
From: pkron@corona.com (Peter Kron) Organization: Corona Design, Inc., Seattle, WA Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1993 06:00:32 PDT Message-ID: <1993Oct30.130032.421@corona.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Experience with Interbase? Anyone have experience with the Borland Interbase database on NEXTSTEP? Interbase is a database based on work done at DEC that I was familiar with years ago. It uses an innovative versioning mechanism for concurrency control, as opposed to the usual logging/lockout mechanisms. (In essence, every transaction sees a distinct "snapshot" of the database, with separate versions of table rows maintained as necessary. Result is very low overhead for concurrent "read-mostly" transactions.) --- NeXTMail:Peter_Kron@corona.com Corona Design, Inc. P.O. Box 51022 Seattle, WA 98115-1022
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Oracle tools for NEXTSTEP? Date: 30 Oct 1993 16:44:40 GMT Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz Distribution: world Message-ID: <2au5lo$qik@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> References: <CFp8Gr.KM5@nimno.wpa.com> In article <CFp8Gr.KM5@nimno.wpa.com> john@wpa.com (John Bartley) writes: > Unless a > miracle has happened recently, I'm not aware of any work being done on NS > versions of their toolset, so I just wonder how they'll suddenly have all > this out by the end of the year. The "miracle" may have already occurred: Oracle's CEO (Larry Ellison - sp?) is on NeXT's Board of Directors. -- Art Isbell Cubic Solutions NeXT Registered Developer NEXTSTEP software development and consulting NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: +1 408 335 1154 USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: +1 408 335 2515
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: sela@iastate.edu (Brian J Morrison) Subject: mpg viewer, fsp app/where? Message-ID: <CFq159.9ru@news.iastate.edu> Sender: news@news.iastate.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1993 17:41:33 GMT I am running NS 2.1. Is there a mpg viewer out there that I could use, and if so, where? Also, (pardon the ignorance here, I really don't know much about fsp) is there an app like GatorFTP or Gopher.app for fsp access? Brian sela@iastate.edu -- Brian sela@iastate.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: aba@netcom.com (Alan Atlas) Subject: WP Paragraph Numbering -- help please Message-ID: <abaCFq2J7.FHC@netcom.com> Sender: Alan Atlas Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) Distribution: usa Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1993 18:11:30 GMT Well, I have a document that I just put into WP and I want to number theparagraphs like 1., 1.1, 2., 2.1, 2.1.1, etc. No matter what I do, WP only puts a 1 in front of a paragraph. Plus, when I go into the Define... dialog and set up my numbering format and go back later, it seems to have forgotten it. I only have online help, and it isn't telling me something. Could somebody else tell me what to do? Does this part of WP work? Thanks a mega. alan
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software From: al@rbc.uucp (Al Davis) Subject: Re: Emacs 19 under NS natively Message-ID: <1993Oct30.150908.1450@rbc.uucp> Organization: Huh? References: <CEDMAN.93Oct25154204@capitalist.princeton.edu> <JWZ.93Oct28171918@thalidomide.lucid.com> <SPETERS.93Oct29172254@samsun.us.oracle.com> Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1993 15:09:08 GMT In article <SPETERS.93Oct29172254@samsun.us.oracle.com> speters@samsun.us.oracle.com (Stephen Peters) writes: >Also, he states that he regards the VMS decision as having done "more >harm than good", and does not wish to repeat the mistake. There is another difference between NeXTSTEp and VMS that might make it ok to support VMS but not NS. VMS is an old crusty os that is used only because it has been for a long time. By supporting VMS it is possible to move their users over to GNU a piece at a time. The VMS users that use emacs and gcc don't want to use VMS. It is forced on them by the administration. al.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) Subject: Re: WP Paragraph Numbering -- help please Message-ID: <1993Oct30.203307.27272@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: Stanford University References: <abaCFq2J7.FHC@netcom.com> Distribution: usa Date: Sat, 30 Oct 93 20:33:07 GMT Alan Atlas writes > Well, I have a document that I just put into WP and I want to > number theparagraphs like 1., 1.1, 2., 2.1, 2.1.1, etc. > > No matter what I do, WP only puts a 1 in front of a paragraph. > Plus, when I go into the Define... dialog and set up my numbering > format and go back later, it seems to have forgotten it. I only > have online help, and it isn't telling me something. Call up Tools->Outline->Define. Select the legal outline style from the pop-up list. Now every first-level para number will be 1., every second-level number 1.1, 1.2, etc. What distinguishes para levels? If you use the "insert para number" command on the Tools->Outline menu, the para level is determined by tab position (ie every para number code at the first tab is 1., 2., etc, every para number at the second tab is 1.1, 1.2, 1.3, etc). On the other hand, if you choose define again and use the "insert outline level" code at bottom left on the panel, you can specify what level numbering you want from the pop-up list; in this case the numbering will be as you set it independent of the tab position (unless you choose "auto"). Its more confusing to explain than it is to do. Try it. -- - Stefano Pagiola Food Research Institute, Stanford University spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged) spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: xinwei@otter.Stanford.EDU (Sha Xin Wei) Subject: Re: TIFF -> PostScript Converter Message-ID: <1993Oct30.221132.28943@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: Stanford University References: <1993Oct25.182309.22126@leland.Stanford.EDU> Date: Sat, 30 Oct 93 22:11:32 GMT In article <1993Oct25.182309.22126@leland.Stanford.EDU> spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) writes: > Klemens Seubert writes > > I need a TIFF to PostScript converter. > > Is there such a program available in the public domain? > > You can always just open the tiff file, call up the print panel, and > hit "save". The result is a postscript file. Adjust the "page size" > first to avoid a lot of white space around your image. > > You can also import the tiff into a graphics program (like Draw or > Create); you can then save out from there as .eps. > > -- > - > Stefano Pagiola > Food Research Institute, Stanford University > spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged) > spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged) Or you can use one of several utilities, like the public domain pbmplus package Copyright (C) 1989, 1991 by Jef Poskanzer. tifftopnm x.tiff | pnmtops > x.eps OR use a commercial app like PixelMagician. Both are overkill, but multi-talented. Sha Xin Wei Stanford University
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: xinwei@otter.Stanford.EDU (Sha Xin Wei) Subject: Re: Mail Preprocessor that will correct UUNECODED files to NeXTMail Message-ID: <1993Oct30.222925.29367@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: Stanford University References: <1993Oct25.145708.1537@nosc.mil> Date: Sat, 30 Oct 93 22:29:25 GMT In comp.sys.next.software article <1993Oct25.145708.1537@nosc.mil> Ron wrote: > > Again, the problem is that sometimes people read mail with the NeXTmail > app, other times they read mail using some other mail client (user agent). .. > Someday, everything will be MIME compliant and this problem will go away. > I'm just trying to hack things up to hold us over until that time. > > --Ron In a few months, I hope to run two classes where the students will be encouraged to exchange docs over NeXTMail. They'll all have AFS accounts, with mail pointed to ordinary (X) unix mbox'es. It's ok, for now, if on an X machine they see cryptic junk from NeXTMail -- we'll tell them to login to a NeXT to read such mail. Is it possible for students to log into their afs accounts on a NeXT, and get a view of the _same_ mbox, without .forward? If you come up with something transparent, could you send us a copy? Mac + NeXT: Another twist, many folk on campus use a Mac program (eg. Eudora), to download mail into thier local Macs. I've been told that large attachments can jam the Mac and leave corrupted files on both their Mac and unix directories. Is this true? I'm told that Eudora is not smart enough to check in advance to see if the the file may be too big or contains attachments. Xin Wei
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: I need a Spreadsheet!!! Message-ID: <1993Oct27.112157.1@vax1.umkc.edu> From: dbarlow@vax1.umkc.edu Date: 27 Oct 93 11:21:57 CST Organization: University of Missouri - Kansas City I am looking for a spreadsheet type program that will do mathematical operations on a column of information stored as a standard text file. I am working with CSound on the NeXT, and need to be able to generate score files in ASCII format, in column form. I believe that a spreadsheet program is what I am looking for. Can anyone recommend a program either ftp, or commercial? It is very important that the program has the option to save the data as a text file. Is this possible? Dustin
From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Oracle tools for NEXTSTEP? Date: 30 Oct 93 23:21:24 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <jeffo.752023284@uiuc.edu> References: <CFp8Gr.KM5@nimno.wpa.com> <2au5lo$qik@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> Art Isbell writes: >The "miracle" may have already occurred: Oracle's CEO (Larry Ellison - >sp?) is on NeXT's Board of Directors. I think this is treating a possibility like something that has happened. If this is such a guaranteed good thing, when can we expect to see continued Oracle upgrades for NS? -- J.B. Nicholson-Owens (ASCII mail only)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) Subject: Re: Mamakos DialupIP w/ dynamic IP numbers??? In-Reply-To: burton@pion's message of 29 Oct 1993 14:38:57 GMT To: burton@pion (Joshua W. Burton) Message-ID: <CEDMAN.93Oct30105527@capitalist.princeton.edu> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University References: <2ar9u1$6jp@cat.cis.Brown.EDU> Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1993 14:55:27 GMT In article <2ar9u1$6jp@cat.cis.Brown.EDU> burton@pion (Joshua W. Burton) writes: I just downloaded Louis Mamakos's SLIP package, and have been trying to set it up to give me SLIP access to my Internet-linked university account from my stand-alone NeXTcube at home. An old message. Carl Edman In article <1993Feb25.205005.13882@umr.edu> dwendeln@cs.umr.edu (Dan Wendeln) wr ites: This is my problem: The university here has a new dialup which is slip capable. The bummer, however, is that it dynamicaly gives you an address when you iniciate "SLIP" on the server. So what I would like to do is use the current SLIP package available on the net, but bypass the dial on demand feature and basicaly just dialup the server by hand get the address of the day and iniciate the proper SLIP command to get it running. I've read the docs that came with the package but I am not a UNIX guru (slowly getting there :-)). Any help would be appreciated. Email to dwendeln@cs.umr.edu NeXT mail accepted. You can do better. If your terminal server is among the more common types you can write scripts for Louis Mamakos dialupip (which I take it you are using ? -- there are also other SLIP packages for the NeXT) which gets the IP address from the remote server on connect and then configures your system to have that address. If you do this make certain that starting dialupip doesn't happen in rc.local (as the documentation suggestion), but much earlier eg. right after the syslog daemon is started in rc. This is necessary as some daemons (like eg. sendmail) get the local hostname once on startup and hence dialupip must have connected and re-configured the hostname before they start. This is the best you can do with local configuration and works reasonably well once you have the configuration done correctly -- but getting there is not for the faint of heart. If you want a better solution, convince your SLIP administrator to do what the SLIP administrator here at Princeton does ie. configure the server so that you can chose your own hostname (with password protection) when you start slip. This is the proper solution in the long run, but getting some admins to do things right can take a long time. Carl Edman
From: rcfa@andi.org (Ronald C.F. Antony) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXTSTEP and GNU (was: Re: Emacs 19 under NS natively (was: Get events without [NXApp run]?)) Date: 31 Oct 1993 08:49:04 GMT Organization: IDS World Network Internet Access Service, (401) 884-9002 GUEST Distribution: world Message-ID: <2avu60$h1a@paperboy.ids.net> References: <V2NIBDPQ@gwdu03.gwdg.de> I think RMS position is quite understandable if one just sees NS as yet another proprietary system. However what I think we should convey is the fact that NS is technically far superior in its object oriented approach and unified display/printing/3D system. The point here is that we are not asking to make an NT port part of the standard release but an NS port, which is by far the best system that is available today. In other words, there are people like me who really love the idea of the GNU project, but who love even more to have the technically most elegant solution available, even if it costs some. NeXT could not, even if they wanted, give away Adobe's and Pixar's technology, so the system has to be proprietary. Nevertheless, as the C compiler proves, NeXT and FSF can gain a lot from working with each other rather than against each other. In my ideal world would NeXT eventually drop their OS group or pay them to co-develop the GNU operating system. GNU's OS is supposed to be BSD and POSIX compatible and is based on MACH, i.e. it has all that NeXT needs and wants in an OS to be able to run NS on top. There is no need to put a lot of time into maintaining UNIX utilities and an OS with a lot of monetary effort, if a few support people and some money paid to Cygnus Support or the FSF directly, could solve the OS issue for NeXT much cheaper than paying Novell royalties plus salaries for many programmers. In addition, NeXT could be one of the few companies that ship source to their OS for free. Let Microsoft try that :-) NeXT doesn't loose much, since that's not where NeXT's money is. Even if NeXT wants to come out with the object oriented file system / persistent object store, that could be incorporated into the GNU OS considering its modularity. The GNU people could in turn gain monetary and personnel support from NeXT. In addition, having NeXT ship the GNU OS would expose a lot more people to the GNU idea, particularly in areas that are now not even aware of the FSF. If the rumored XSTEP GNU project goes anywhere, NS and XSTEP support should be almost identical in most apps anyway. And while NS is supported in GNU apps, GNU could start on a DisplayGhostscript and Gender man... To summarize: NeXT should save by leveraging more on FSF and GNU FSF/RMS should realize that sometimes cheap/free is not enough and that some people just don't want to put up with X just because it is free. NS should be supported by FSF not because we want it, but because it's excellent. I'd be the first to complain if FSF were to waste time on NT ports and crap like that. -- Ronald ============================================================================== "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man." G.B. Shaw ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ rcfa@cubiculum.com rcfa@NeXT-BUG.org rcfa@ANDI.org rcfa@sleepy.cis.brown.edu the OS issue for NeXT much cheaper than paying Novell royalties plus salaries for many programmers. In addition, NeXT could be one of the few companies that ship source to their OS for free. Let Microsoft try that :-) NeXT doesn't loose much, since that's not where NeXT's money is. Even if NeXT wants to come out with the object oriented file system / persistent object store, that could be incorporated into the GNU OS considering its modularity. The GNU people could in turn gain monetary and personnel support from NeXT. In addition, having NeXT ship the GNU OS would expose a lot more people to the GNU idea, particularly in areas that are now not even aware of the FSF. If the rumored XSTEP GNU project goes anywhere, NS and XSTEP support should be almost identical in most apps anyway. And while NS is supported in GNU apps, GNU could start on a DisplayGhostscript and Gender
From: rcfa@andi.org (Ronald C.F. Antony) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: .jpg to jpeg compressed .tiff conversion? Date: 31 Oct 1993 09:19:43 GMT Organization: IDS World Network Internet Access Service, (401) 884-9002 GUEST Distribution: world Message-ID: <2avvvf$h6b@paperboy.ids.net> Keywords: lossless conversion wanted Does anyone know of a filter that converts .jpg files directly into jpeg compressed .tiff files WITHOUT first decompressing the file into some portable bitmap/standard tiff format and then recompressing it? Using the various tools available it is no problem to convert .jpg into .tiff (even jpeg compressed ones), but decompressi ng and recompressing with a lossy algorithm produces a noticable loss of image quality. Therefore, if someone knows a tool that converts simply the file format without doing any manipulation to the image data itself I'd be glad to know about it. Also, if someone knows where to find precise documentation for both the .jpg and the jpeg compressed .tiff format that would allow the implementation of such a filter, let me know. Please send me e-mail, I might not be here in the next few days. I will post a summary if there are any relevant answers. -- Ronald ============================================================================== "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man." G.B. Shaw ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ rcfa@cubiculum.com rcfa@NeXT-BUG.org rcfa@ANDI.org rcfa@sle epy.cis.brown.edu ng with a lossy algorithm produces a noticable loss of image quality. Therefore, if someone knows a tool that converts simply the file format without doing any manipulation to the image data itself I'd be glad to know about it. Also, if someone knows where to find precise documentation for both the .jpg and the jpeg compressed .tiff format that would allow the implementation of such a filter, let me know. Please send me e-mail, I might not be here in the next few days. I will post a summary if there are any relevant answers. -- Ronald ============================================================================== "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man." G.B. Shaw ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ rcfa@cubiculum.com rcfa@NeXT-BUG.org rcfa@ANDI.org rcfa@slees that ship source to their OS for free. Let Microsoft try that :-) NeXT doesn't loose much, since that's not where NeXT's money is. Even if NeXT wants to come out with the object oriented file system / persistent object store, that could be incorporated into the GNU OS considering its modularity. The GNU people could in turn gain monetary and personnel support from NeXT. In addition, having NeXT ship the GNU OS would expose a lot more people to the GNU idea, particularly in areas that are now not even aware of the FSF. If the rumored XSTEP GNU project goes anywhere, NS and XSTEP support should be almost identical in most apps anyway. And while NS is supported in GNU apps, GNU could start on a DisplayGhostscript and Gender
From: rcfa@andi.org (Ronald C.F. Antony) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: PhoneKit? (was: Re: Hayes ISDN extender on analog lines?) Date: 31 Oct 1993 09:29:56 GMT Organization: IDS World Network Internet Access Service, (401) 884-9002 GUEST Distribution: world Message-ID: <2b00ik$h7s@paperboy.ids.net> References: <2am9oq$4vv@news.bu.edu> > I called to order one, NeXTconnection warned me > that the PhoneKit only works with the ISDN > extended on ISDN lines, not analog lines. Is this > true? If so, where can I get information on how > to write a driver for it? For the (quite buggy) PhoneKit that was in NS 3.0 it depends on the features you want. Data transmission would only work over ISDN, touch tone detection, voice recording and playback would also work over POTS. HOWEVER, who is supporting/selling/giving away a version of the PhoneKit that has a) the bugs fixed b) works with NS 3.x (where x>1) ??? Right now I have the Hayes adapter, but it is a quite useless piece of hardware since I don't have a version of the PhoneKit that works. Any news in that direction would be helpful... Please reply by e-mail, I might not be here in the next few days... -- Ronald ============================================================================== "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man." G.B. Shaw --------------------------------------------------- --------------------------- rcfa@cubiculum.com rcfa@NeXT-BUG.org rcfa@ANDI.org rcfa@sleepy.cis.brown.edu ction, voice recording and playback would also work over POTS. HOWEVER, who is supporting/selling/giving away a version of the PhoneKit that has a) the bugs fixed b) works with NS 3.x (where x>1) ??? Right now I have the Hayes adapter, but it is a quite useless piece of hardware since I don't have a version of the PhoneKit that works. Any news in that direction would be helpful... Please reply by e-mail, I might not be here in the next few days... -- Ronald ============================================================================== "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man." G.B. Shaw ----------------------------------------------------------------------- rcfa@cubiculum.com rcfa@NeXT-BUG.org rcfa@ANDI.org rcfa@slees that ship source to their OS for free. Let Microsoft try that :-) NeXT doesn't loose much, since that's not where NeXT's money is. Even if NeXT wants to come out with the object oriented file system / persistent object store, that could be incorporated into the GNU OS considering its modularity. The GNU people could in turn gain monetary and personnel support from NeXT. In addition, having NeXT ship the GNU OS would expose a lot more people to the GNU idea, particularly in areas that are now not even aware of the FSF. If the rumored XSTEP GNU project goes anywhere, NS and XSTEP support should be almost identical in most apps anyway. And while NS is supported in GNU apps, GNU could start on a DisplayGhostscript and Gender
From: rcfa@andi.org (Ronald C.F. Antony) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: WordPerfect Date: 31 Oct 1993 10:42:34 GMT Organization: IDS World Network Internet Access Service, (401) 884-9002 GUEST Distribution: world Message-ID: <2b04qq$hg7@paperboy.ids.net> References: <1993Oct29.191752.5996@cs.yale.edu> In article <1993Oct29.191752.5996@cs.yale.edu> dushyant@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Dushyant Pathak) writes: > What is a problem is that NeXT is once again shooting itself in > the foot by following a marketing policy or non-policy seemingly designed > to alienate "mainstream" users and developers alike. In its present > incarnation NeXT runs the risk of alienating members, like myself, of the > tiny niche market of non-specialized mainstream personal computer users > who have been fans of NeXTstep since the days of the CUBE. All too true. Unfortunately NeXT either is not clear enough or does not want to be clear about the fact, that custom apps without shrink-wrap software only fill half the equation. Obviously there are "mission-critical" applications that specialized from company to company and from industry to industry. However there are also mission critical activities like letter writing, layout (and be it only for the annual employee BBQ announcement) etc. Creating a too singleminded marketing message about custom apps makes NeXTSTEP about as useless as ParcPlace Smalltalk: A very nice system, but of no practical use, since at least I, next to programming have also other work to do and refuse categorically to have more than one kind of work environment. What is/was great about NeXTSTEP is the fact that it is a great development and a great working environment. If NeXTs marketing cuts out the standard apps, they might be used at traders desks until the next 'HOT' product comes along, and then be history. Traders go in and out of markets quickly. And so they use their tools. If NeXTSTEP makes money today, they are in, if something else makes money tomorrow, NeXTSTEP is out. No sentiments. Custom apps is a nice niche to get the foot in the door, but if NeXT looses the vision aiming to be on everybodies desk rather than just being on traders' then they are loosing not only me but their credibility as a world-class software company. If they don't send a clear message as mainstream software company, then they better get out of the operating system market and sell their tools under windows (puke!). After all there are a lot more development systems sold in that market... So I hope to hear some strong noise from NeXT that they want to compete in the general OS market, that they want to be a viable alternative to Windows in EVERY respect (not just custom app development), that they want and LOVE shrink wrap general productivity apps etc. (Amen :-) ) -- Ronald PS: NeXT or how to have the perfect product and the always the right marketing message at the wrong time... OD as HD replacement, not enough RAM: myth of the slow cube Competing against PCs (while SUN was slow): myth of the high price Competing against SUN (when SUN had new hardware, and prices were finally in the PC range): myth of slow stations Interpersonal computing (when people had no idea was a network was): lost message, one that now might actually work again... Trying to be a publishing platform (without any software other than the right technology): can't work Trying to be a general purpose platform (while there were not enough shrink wrap products): loss of the custom app market Focusing totally on custome apps (when the shrink warp finally started to appear): kills software producers Ahhh :-( Take NeXT's marketing messages, reorder them, change the timing and NeXT could have a lot more success ... ============================================================================== "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man." G.B. Shaw ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ rcfa@cubiculum.com rcfa@NeXT-BUG.org rcfa@ANDI.org rcfa@sleepy.cis.brown.edu ystem market and sell their tools under windows (puke!). After all there are a lot more development systems sold in that market... So I hope to hear some strong noise from NeXT that they want to compete in the gene
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: peter@corsica (Peter Eisch) Subject: Re: PhoneKit? (was: Re: Hayes ISDN extender on analog lines?) Message-ID: <CFrq4z.An3@news.cis.umn.edu> Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: University of Minnesota Hospital and Clinic, Labratory Information Services References: <2am9oq$4vv@news.bu.edu> <2b00ik$h7s@paperboy.ids.net> Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1993 15:36:16 GMT Ronald C.F. Antony (rcfa@andi.org) wrote: : HOWEVER, who is supporting/selling/giving away a version of the PhoneKit : that has : a) the bugs fixed : b) works with NS 3.x (where x>1) : ??? : Right now I have the Hayes adapter, but it is a quite useless piece of : hardware since I don't have a version of the PhoneKit that works. Any news : in that direction would be helpful... Some time back I (through a proxy) and someone in CA, that was not or apparently had never been a NeXT employee, were negotiating with NeXT to take it over. NeXT hadn't decided if they were going to "throw it over the wall" or take that party in as a partner with the PhoneKit. After 4 or 5 indecisive phone calls I said "screw it". I have a set of classes that sit on top of PhoneKit's meagre existence and give me a good and reliable API to it. All of my use of PhoneKit is POTS as Ameritech doesn't know what ISDN is, how any would use it if they knew what it was, or why anyone wouldn't want Sw56 instead... A friend has been using (for quite some time now) a hacked version of MessageCenter.app on 3.1 as an answering machine successfully. The caveats include a cron job that kills the PhoneServer daemon each morning at 3am and restarts the app then as well. I could make that available if someone would find it useful. She enjoys it as it gives the date/time the call came in, she can keep them for as long as she wants and she has random access to the messages (and she can use parts of the messages for her outgoing message). peter -- Always looking for a handy place to nap... peter@tahiti.umhc.umn.edu (Peter Eisch) peter.a.eisch@uwrf.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer From: pjoe@charon.muc.de (Peter Eybert) Subject: Problem with zsh and cc1obj Message-ID: <1993Oct31.113051.643@charon.muc.de> Sender: pjoe@charon.muc.de Organization: Peter Eybert Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1993 11:30:51 GMT Hello, I've seen a problem with zsh (v2.2.0) and cc1obj: If I compile several .c files in a directory the following occurs: ~/Maths/cephes1/lib1 12% for i (*.c) > { > cc -c -O -o `basename $i .c`.o $i > } cc1obj: /usr/tmp/cc000495.i: No such file or directory cc1obj: /usr/tmp/cc000499.i: No such file or directory [... in total 20 times] In lib1 there are 31 .c files and the temporary files in /usr/tmp/ which cc1obj doesn't find DO exist. Furthermore, they don't vanish either as they should. Maybe it has something to do with a #define in conf.h of the zsh which is /* default prefix for temporary files */ #define DEFTMPPREFIX "/tmp/zsh" but I don't know. It seems that this errors don't do any harm, since the resulting library in lib1 works without errors as I've seen so far. Please could anybody post the reason for this behaviour? -- ____________________________________________________________ Peter Eybert pjoe@charon.muc.de Appenzellerstr. 123 Tel: +49-89-7593734 81475 Muenchen (NeXTMail welcome) --
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mbarnes@world.std.com (michael j barnes) Subject: Gupta SQL-Base Message-ID: <CFrxsF.K6w@world.std.com> Summary: Anyone Using SQL-Base? Keywords: Next Gupta Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA Distribution: usa Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1993 18:24:14 GMT We are considering porting from Sybase to SQL-Base. However, Because we use the C-API libs, Parabase is forcing us to purchase a $2500 support contract!!! Thus a Five user version of SQL-Base (1995) + the API libs (995) and the support contract will cost us about 5500. To make matters worse, Parabase refuses to offer a demo or evaluation copy, and they say our purchase is non-refundable (Not my idea of Good Business). Anyway, does anybody have any comments on Gupta performance VS Sybase, particularly multiple (7+) table joins. Thanks.
From: dlynn@awk.valverde.edu (Darrell Lynn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NS 3.1 Screen Saver Date: 31 Oct 1993 20:49:32 GMT Organization: University of California, Riverside Message-ID: <2b18cs$a22@galaxy.ucr.edu> Keywords: Screen Saver Does anyone know how to change the default for the time in takes to activate the automatic NS screen saver in 3.1. I would like to make it activate sooner.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: boyan@tmnxt1.iit.edu (Boyan I. Boyanov) Subject: HELP: problems with "quarto" Message-ID: <1993Oct31.225107.2173@iitmax.iit.edu> Sender: news@iitmax.iit.edu (News) Organization: Illinois Institute of Technology / Academic Computing Center Distribution: usa Date: Sun, 31 Oct 93 22:51:07 GMT Hi, I am trying to print a postScript file double-sided with "quarto" and am constantly having the same problem - the first page prints OK, but everything after that looks as if it is printed on a (bad) dot-matrix printer. If I try to print the PS file directly (w/o piping it through quarto) it prints just fine. I tried recompiling the source code and getting it from the original source (media-lab.mit.edu), but this did not help. The author either did not receive my numerous email messages or chose to ignore them, so I would appreciate any help I can get from the net. Thanks. Here are some details. The PS file is created from a TeX dvi file with dvips, e.g. dvips -o file.ps file dvi and is then piped through quarto and lpr quarto -p odd file.ps | lpr The printer is a NeXT 400 dpi printer, and I am (still) running NS 2.1. Please reply by email to boyan@tmnxt1.iit.edu Thanks! Boyan -- -------------------------------------------------------------- Boyan Boyanov | boyan@tmnxt1.iit.edu Department of Physics | boyaboy@karl.iit.edu Illinois Institute of Technology | BOYABOY@IITVAX (Bitnet) Chicago, IL 60616 | (312) 567-6833 ****** I ain't stupid, just don't know squat 'bout Unix ****** --------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) Subject: CD Player for Intel Message-ID: <1993Oct30.043043.6185@weston.com> Sender: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1993 04:30:43 GMT Is there a beast available for Intel that will play music CD's. I can use either a commercial or non-commercial app. THanks -- Wes Spears <-------> jspears@weston.com (NeXTMail Welcome) The Weston Group (UUCP and SENDMAIL Consultation) 8524 Highway 6 North, 162, Houston, TX 77095
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: blenko-tom@CS.YALE.EDU (Tom M. Blenko) Subject: DialUpIP and -NXHost Message-ID: <1993Nov1.014713.25843@cs.yale.edu> Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News) Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1993 01:47:13 GMT We put Mamakos' package up here this week (without CSLIP at this moment), and everything is running fine (ping Internet address, name service, ftp-rsh-rlogin), except... -NXHost doesn't work. We can use -NXHost fine across machines connected by ethernet, but running it between the remote and local machines from either side over SLIP gives an error: DPS client library error: Could not form connection, host XXX Has anyone else seen this, or figured out what might be going on? Tom
From: burton@het.brown.edu (Joshua W. Burton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: PROGRESS (Was: Mamakos DialupIP w/ dynamic IP numbers???) Date: 1 Nov 1993 03:30:48 GMT Organization: Brown University Distribution: world Message-ID: <2b1vt8$5c3@cat.cis.Brown.EDU> References: <2ar9u1$6jp@cat.cis.Brown.EDU> Well, I promised to summarize, so---good news first: Louis Mamakos's SLIP package _does_ (hurrah!) handle dynamically allocated IP numbers without jumping through hoops. There is a package in the submissions directory at cs.orst.edu (called UofO_SLIP_configuration) that makes it all clear, but there is really enough information in the Mamakos package to solve it without that...once you understand what's going on. The solution is to go ahead and preset any old IP number for the local (home) machine, then when the SLIP server at the other end comes up and assigns you a real IP number, you have your script exec the ifconfig program, which resets the IP address on the fly. This would even work if the _remote_ machine also had an unpredictable IP number, and Mr. Mamakos all but does it for you in a commented-out line in his sample script. I can give details if anyone needs them, but this description (or the UofO sample scripts) should be enough if you have gotten this far. Now for the next pair of problems. The first one is probably fairly straightforward, at least for anyone who understands the syntax of sendmail.cf, which I don't. The UofO example shows what must be done to hack sendmail.cf so that it gives the right domain name on outgoing mail, routes it out through the SLIP line, and so on...all OK. But my problem is that my login name on my home machine (joshua) and on my work machine (burton) are different...and I would like my outgoing mail from home to show <burton@het.brown.edu> as the outgoing address, as that is the name that the machine at work recognizes for incoming replies. So what do I do to sendmail.cf to make it look up a name somewhere for outgoing mail, instead of using local account names? The NeXTanswers have an entry (sysadmin.296) that frustratingly half-explains this: it says that I have to replace the lines: # Sender Field Pre-rewriting S1 # None needed. with something like: DZmail.byaddr # Sender Field Pre-rewriting S1 R$- $:$>3${Z$1$} invert account to alias (which I can do), and then put the desired alias into `the mail.byaddr NIS map', which is gibberish to me. I'm running this standalone machine as a non-NetInfo network---do I even have an NIS map? Could someone please explain this to me in words of one syllable? The second problem is weird enough that I can only hope someone has experienced it before me and can advise. When I fire up an Internet-using application, or telnet or rlogin or ftp from the command line, the phone dials (correctly), and the scripts for both modem-dialing and annex-server handshaking work perfectly. I get a SLIP connection from the remote end, and then...everything goes quiescent. My modem sends an outgoing blurp about every five seconds, and the remote machine never replies...and after two minutes or so the app times out with `unknown host' or `network down' or whatever it likes to say to tell me it's talking to Tumbolia. Now here's the weird part: the phone line is still up, just not sending any packets, and if I now launch the app _again_ (or launch a different app that sends packets) everything is suddenly fine, and the app works immediately. I can go on working for as long as the SLIP line remains up, using as many apps as I want---but if I ever let it go down I have to go through the same Kabuki dance to bring it back. In other words, the app that makes the phone dial never gets through, but the link does come up. Has anyone an inkling of what might be going on? Joshua W. Burton (confused Internet almost-peer) burton@het.brown.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: cew@quark.Stanford.EDU (Carlin E. Wiegner) Subject: Why can't I cancel my own article.... Message-ID: <1993Nov1.074639.11243@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: Stanford University Date: Mon, 1 Nov 93 07:46:39 GMT Why can't I cancel my own article? It says you can only can your own article.... CW
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: marketing@nextsrv1.andi.org (Marketing Director) Subject: Re: PhoneKit? (was: Re: Hayes ISDN extender on analog lines?) Message-ID: <CFsMCE.G8C@nextsrv1.andi.org> Keywords: ANDI,PENCOM,ISDN,PhoneKit<NeXT Sender: usenet@nextsrv1.andi.org (usenet) Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International References: <CFrq4z.An3@news.cis.umn.edu> Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1993 03:14:38 GMT In article <CFrq4z.An3@news.cis.umn.edu> peter@corsica (Peter Eisch) writes: > Ronald C.F. Antony (rcfa@andi.org) wrote: > > who is supporting/selling/giving away a version of the PhoneKit It is in the hands of PENCOM who is trying determine if there is enough of a demand (demand=cash flow [my interpretation]) to release it. Send mail to: jortiz@pencom.com (Joe Ortiz) who is in charge of the PhoneKit at PENCOM in Austin, TX. phone 512-343-6666 Joe asked me about the interest level in the PhoneKit at the recent UNIX EXPO in New York in September. I said there are a number of organizations who are interested in the PhoneKit and asked what the bottom line was in getting it released, that is how much money do they need to make it commercially viable. No response from that inquiry. PhoneKit RIP???? I hope not!!!! According to the people who supplied NeXT with ISDN code for the PhoneKit it should be capable of handling SS7 enabled switches and according to the same source, that same code could be a stepping stone to ATM. Call or email Joe, and let me know if you are interested in working to get the PhoneKit back on the market again. --- Bill Strehl Executive Director ANDI reply to:marketing@nextsrv1.andi.org
From: mauriti@cs.tu-berlin.de (Frank Hartlep) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Pasting in Framemaker Date: 1 Nov 1993 10:13:44 GMT Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <2b2ngo$ruj@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I'm having some trouble when pasting a Diagram 1.? object into a Framemaker 3.0 document. There are umlaut characters in the box and arrow labels of my Diagram objects that don't make it through when pasting in Framemaker. The PostScript code of the pasted graphic reveals that the escape characters have disappeared, e.g. o dieresis is originally represented as octal code '\360' in the 'show' commands, but Framemaker deletes the \ and thus I'm seeing '360' instead of an o dieresis. Could anybody explain how to get around this problem? Many thanks, Frank
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: ed@joker.fdn.org (Erik Dasque) Subject: Tailor.app : Anyone using it ? Message-ID: <1993Oct31.141010.1844@joker.fdn.org> Sender: ed@joker.fdn.org Organization: French Guy Corp. - Paris, France. Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1993 14:10:10 GMT Subject says it all. How good is it ? Robust ? Worth the (I dunnon how much) green bills ? TXS in advance, Ed. -- Erik Dasque "The French Guy" only SMALL NeXTMAIL pleeeeease... Work Address : ed@cubx.com / Personal Address : ed@joker.fdn.org "I am actually PAID to read news." * "Microsoft doesn't exist."
From: ray@mayo.edu (Ray Ghanbari) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Pasting in Framemaker Date: 1 Nov 1993 13:45:15 GMT Organization: Mayo Foundation Distribution: world Message-ID: <2b33tb$k2v@fermat.mayo.edu> References: <2b2ngo$ruj@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> In article <2b2ngo$ruj@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> mauriti@cs.tu-berlin.de (Frank Hartlep) writes: > I'm having some trouble when pasting a Diagram 1.? object > into a Framemaker 3.0 document. There are umlaut characters > in the box and arrow labels of my Diagram objects that don't > make it through when pasting in Framemaker. The PostScript code > of the pasted graphic reveals that the escape characters have > disappeared, e.g. o dieresis is originally represented as octal > code '\360' in the 'show' commands, but Framemaker deletes the \ > and thus I'm seeing '360' instead of an o dieresis. > Could anybody explain how to get around this problem? > > Many thanks, > Frank Frame has a bug that corrupts EPS when pasting. We've run into this several times with EquationBuilder. The solution is to save the graphic as an EPS file and import it into your Frame document by drag and drop or via the Import... menu item. Unfortunately, given the likelihood we'll see an upgrade of Frame for NEXTSTEP, this may be the only solution... -- Ray Ghanbari Mayo Foundation ray@mayo.edu
From: brunkhorst@mayo.edu (Geoff Brunkhorst) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: WordPerfect Date: 1 Nov 1993 14:41:12 GMT Organization: Mayo Foundation Distribution: world Message-ID: <2b3768$kom@fermat.mayo.edu> References: <2asfs1$csa@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> In article <2asfs1$csa@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> scwg0600@ih-nxt01.cso.uiuc.edu (Steven C Weintz) writes: > > I talked with WP today, and yes, they are looking for people to write > > their Unix Marketing Group to solicit WP to change their mind and > > continue work on WP 6.0 on the NeXT. > > So, upon whom do we vent our spleen (Oops, I mean inquire of further > product development)? WordPerfect Corporation Attention: Unix/NeXT Marketing, MS C221 1555 North Technology Way Orem UT 84057 - Geoff ----------------------------------------------------------------- Geoffrey Brunkhorst brunkhorst@Mayo.edu Research Computing Facility, Guggenheim 10 (507) 284-1805 Mayo Foundation, Rochester MN, 55905, USA fax (507) 284-5231
From: jbell@spiffy.cybernet.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP upgrade goofiness... Date: 01 Nov 93 11:07:06 Organization: Msen, Inc. -- Ann Arbor, Michigan Distribution: fj Message-ID: <jbell.93Nov11176@spiffy> References: <1993Oct22.204935.14238@abulafia.in-berlin.de> <2ac4fn$4t6@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> <2arse0$lin@alamut.cognet.ucla.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain > The problem is that I don't know if I even want 3.2, since > Appleshare (which I use a lot) and the Novell Netware clients > are going away, and from what I see, 3.0 seems sufficient. > Is this true? Netware goes away in 3.2? So what else is missing that we haven't been told about? I like the way that the DSP access what taken out of 3.1 (is there a work around for this?), I can no longer play score files. --- J. Shan Bell Cybernet Systems Corportation jbell@cybernet.com (NeXTMail accepted) Research and Development (313) 668-2567 Voice (313) 668-8780 Fax Ann Arbor, MI
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) Subject: Re: Tailor.app : Anyone using it ? Message-ID: <1993Nov1.162300.20156@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: Stanford University References: <1993Oct31.141010.1844@joker.fdn.org> Date: Mon, 1 Nov 93 16:23:00 GMT Erik Dasque writes > Subject says it all. How good is it ? Robust ? Worth the (I dunnon > how much) green bills ? Tailor was demoed at a recent BANG meeting, and looked VERY impressive. -- - Stefano Pagiola Food Research Institute, Stanford University spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged) spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: DavidKelman@abyss.niehs.nih.gov Subject: Educational discounted software - What's good? Message-ID: <DavidKelman.12.0@abyss.niehs.nih.gov> Sender: postman@alw.nih.gov (AMDS Postmaster) Organization: National Institutes of Health Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1993 17:34:40 GMT Hello, I'm a grad student and have a non-turbo NeXTStation. I know that a number of software houses offer educational discounts, but I was wondering if anyone could recommend good packages to purchase. I already have a few (Executor, DataPhile 1.1). I'm in the biological/physical sciences (molecular biophysics), and have thus far seen little need for certain things, like speadsheets or accounting software. If you chose to reply rather than followup, please use one of the addresses below. Thanks in advance David Kelman kelman@niehs.nih.gov david@flanaess.niehs.nih.gov (NeXTMail)
From: whitem@jester.usask.ca (Matt White) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,su.computers.next Subject: Re: CAP 6.0 on NexTStep3.0 Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,su.computers.next Date: 1 Nov 1993 16:35:19 GMT Organization: University of Saskatchewan Distribution: ba Message-ID: <2b3ds7$hj3@tribune.usask.ca> References: <1993Oct29.220846.28880@leland.Stanford.EDU> On Fri, 29 Oct 93 22:08:46 GMT, Ranjini Ramachandran (tamarind@leland.Stanford.EDU) wrote: : I'm having problems installing CAP6 on a NeXT3.0? : No problems during the install. : I ran aarpd. I start atis, and start-cap-servers : ( which starts aufs among other things, I suppose...) and : set up the afpvols, etc.,etc., : The fileserver never shows up in the Chooser and also, : the "getzones" program that is supposed to give a list : of zones, returns an error; : error -1096 getting zone list : Any suggestions? : ( an e-mail messahe would be highly appreciated...) : Thanks : Ranjini First of all, unless you've done some hard work, Ethertalk is not supported on NeXT machines, which means you must use IPTalk. aarpd is only used for Ethertalk, so shouldn't be run. IPTalk requires an Appletalk bridge that talks IPTalk (such as the Kinetics/Shiva Fastpath, Webster Multiport, etc). If you (or anyone...) has been able to get CAP running with Ethertalk on a NeXT, PLEASE let me know..... --------------------My real computer is an Amiga--------------------- - Matt White Matt.White@usask.ca - - Client Services whitem@jester.usask.ca - - Dept. of Computing Services University of Saskatchewan - --------------------------------------------------------------------- It sure is Monday... Ain't it a sin I've gotta work my way thru the week again. - Mark Chesnutt..."Sure Is Monday"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) Subject: Re: Educational discounted software - What's good? Message-ID: <1993Nov1.170233.21548@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: Stanford University References: <DavidKelman.12.0@abyss.niehs.nih.gov> Date: Mon, 1 Nov 93 17:02:33 GMT DavidKelman@abyss.niehs.nih.gov writes > I'm a grad student and have a non-turbo NeXTStation. I know > that a number of software houses offer educational discounts, > but I was wondering if anyone could recommend good packages to > purchase. I already have a few (Executor, DataPhile 1.1). I'm > in the biological/physical sciences (molecular biophysics), and > have thus far seen little need for certain things, like speadsheets > or accounting software. If you chose to reply rather than > followup, please use one of the addresses below. Definitely put Diagram! on your list. Its a real cool drawing app, and at $25 for students you can't go wrong. You'll also want to consider EquationBuilder, which is by far the best equation editor i've seen on any platform. I believe their edu price is about $50. You say you don't have much use for spreadsheets. Spreadsheets are so versatile that I find that hard to believe. Anyway, if/when you get around to wanting/needing one, Mesa is really nice and has a good edu price. In the general utility category, look into InTouch, which is a really nice address book. Demos of all of the above should be on the archives, so try them and see for yourself before sending any money. -- - Stefano Pagiola Food Research Institute, Stanford University spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged) spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
From: mezzino@gauss.cl.uh.edu (Mike Mezzino) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: GatorFTP Version 1.4 Date: 1 Nov 1993 17:36:47 GMT Organization: University of Houston Message-ID: <2b3hff$spi@menudo.uh.edu> Keywords: ftp Hello GatorFTP Users: GatorFTP_1.4 contains four new features resulting from sugestions by various individuals. The new version can be found on our new archive site uhoop.egr.uh.edu under /pub/misc as GatorFTP_NS3.0_1.4.app.tar.Z (NeXTstep version 3.0) GatorFTP_NS486_1.4.app.tar.Z (NeXTstep 486 fat binary) NEW FEATURES: 1) Each site now includes a comment window. You may display the window with a menu item or a Command-d. If displayed, the window will remain open until you close it or logon to a site. In addition, GatorFTP also keeps track of the last time you logged-on to that site. 2) GatorFTP now recognizes Windows NT servers and displays the directories and transfers files in the "correct" way. 3) Two new VMS options have been added to Preferences. Prior to storing the file on your computer, you may strip the revision and you may lowercase the filename. 4) For those who like to hide GatorFTP during long file receives, the app icon is now animated with the percent-of-transfer dial to reflect the current state of the fetch. Regards, Mike Mezzino mezzino@gauss.cl.uh.edu
From: tomcoop@bcarh775.bnr.ca (Steven K. Besler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: PhoneKit? (was: Re: Hayes ISDN extender on analog lines?) Date: 1 Nov 1993 17:57:07 GMT Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada Sender: tomcoop@bcarh775 (Steven K. Besler) Distribution: world Message-ID: <2b3ilj$js8@bcars64a.bnr.ca> References: <2am9oq$4vv@news.bu.edu> <2b00ik$h7s@paperboy.ids.net> <CFrq4z.An3@news.cis.umn.edu> In article <CFrq4z.An3@news.cis.umn.edu>, peter@corsica (Peter Eisch) writes: |> Ronald C.F. Antony (rcfa@andi.org) wrote: [munch] |> A friend has been using (for quite some time now) a hacked version of |> MessageCenter.app on 3.1 as an answering machine successfully. The |> caveats include a cron job that kills the PhoneServer daemon each morning |> at 3am and restarts the app then as well. I could make that available if |> someone would find it useful. She enjoys it as it gives the date/time |> the call came in, she can keep them for as long as she wants and she has |> random access to the messages (and she can use parts of the messages for |> her outgoing message). [munch] I'm convinced that one could do this with more simple hardware. Couldn't you just rip apart an old modem, get a cheap phone, hack it together so that when the modem goes off-hook, so does the phone. Rip the phone apart, take the speaker out & connect it to a jack into your mic port. Rip the mic off the phone, and attach it your headphone input. Monitor the serial port for rings and then issue the "off-hook" command to the modem. That's the basic idea I had, but you get the idea... -- Steven Besler | "Abstraction + Chaos = Beauty" WORK PHONE: (613) 765-2230 | Personal Email: ak866@freenet.carleton.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: eric_t@cs.uiuc.edu (Eric de_la_Tribouille) Subject: Re: Educational discounted software - What's good? Message-ID: <CFtt0w.89r@cs.uiuc.edu> Sender: news@cs.uiuc.edu Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL References: <DavidKelman.12.0@abyss.niehs.nih.gov> Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1993 18:36:31 GMT In article <DavidKelman.12.0@abyss.niehs.nih.gov> DavidKelman@abyss.niehs.nih.gov writes: > Hello, > > I'm a grad student and have a non-turbo NeXTStation. I know that a number > of software houses offer educational discounts, but I was wondering if anyone > could recommend good packages to purchase. I already have a few (Executor, > DataPhile 1.1). I'm in the biological/physical sciences (molecular > biophysics), and have thus far seen little need for certain things, like > speadsheets or accounting software. If you chose to reply rather than > followup, please use one of the addresses below. > > Thanks in advance > > David Kelman > kelman@niehs.nih.gov > david@flanaess.niehs.nih.gov (NeXTMail) You should take Cub'X-Window (the fastest / most featured / cheapest implementation of X11R5 under NEXTSTEP) at only $100 (user + developer) for universities (and students and prof...). infos : academic@cubx.com Cheers, - Eric --- _____________________________________________________________________ | Eric de la Tribouille | Advanced Collaborative Systems Lab. eric_t@cs.uiuc.edu | Department of Computer Science | University of Illinois at | Urbana-Champaign | 1304W. Springfield Avenue NeXT-Mail very welcome ! | Urbana, ILL 61801, USA ?;?)/ TOMORROW's TOOLS TODAY ! _____________________________________________________________________ Opinions expressed are my own. "The trouble with our times is that the future is not what it used to be." - Paul Valery
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: ed@joker.fdn.org (Erik Dasque) Subject: Re: NS 3.1 Screen Saver Message-ID: <1993Nov1.110829.3665@joker.fdn.org> Sender: ed@joker.fdn.org Organization: French Guy Corp. - Paris, France. References: <2b18cs$a22@galaxy.ucr.edu> Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1993 11:08:29 GMT In article <2b18cs$a22@galaxy.ucr.edu> dlynn@awk.valverde.edu (Darrell Lynn) writes: > Does anyone know how to change the default for the time it takes to > activate the automatic NS screen saver in 3.1. I would like to make it > activate sooner. dwrite loginwindow TimeToDim 10 <dwrite loginwindow TimeToDim seconds> That's all. Ed. -- Erik Dasque "The French Guy" only SMALL NeXTMAIL pleeeeease... Work Address : ed@cubx.com / Personal Address : ed@joker.fdn.org "I am actually PAID to read news." * "Microsoft doesn't exist."
From: dubois@uakari.primate.wisc.edu (Paul DuBois) Newsgroups: comp.text,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.next.software Subject: RTF Specification available online Date: 1 Nov 1993 14:50:22 -0600 Organization: Castra Parvulorum Message-ID: <2b3sqeINNepa@uakari.primate.wisc.edu> For several months now I've had a version of Microsoft's Rich Text Format (RTF) specification online for anonymous FTP and gopher access. This was created from a paper copy that I scanned in and manually corrected. I've now been sent an electronic copy that was posted on CompuServe. This is better since it contains the index entries and such that scanning doesn't preserve. :-) The specification is available for anonymous FTP on ftp.primate.wisc.edu in /pub/RTF, and for gopher access from gopher.primate.wisc.edu under "Primate Center Software Archives". The document is available as a binhexed Macintosh Word document, and as an RTF document. -- Paul DuBois dubois@primate.wisc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dave@alembicla.com(David W. Fahrney) Subject: Re: Can anyone offer opinions on Tailor? Message-ID: <CFp1Fz.1x6@alembicla.com> Sender: dave@alembicla.com (David W. Fahrney) Organization: Alembic Systems International, Ltd. References: <2a2nmq$psq@ursula.ee.pdx.edu> Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1993 04:50:22 GMT In article <2a2nmq$psq@ursula.ee.pdx.edu> marcus@ursula.ee.pdx.edu (Marcus Daniels) writes: !> Just grabbed Tailor of cs.orst.edu. Mighty impressive. !> Could anyone comment on what it does with output? Is it DSC? !> !> Can you be more specific about your question? What is DSC? -- David W. Fahrney =:-) Alembic Systems International, Los Angeles V: 310.371.6226 F: 310.371.0886
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: stiv@netcom.com (Stiv D. Ostenberg) Subject: SoftPC for NeXT Intel Message-ID: <stivCFtxHy.ApD@netcom.com> Summary: Product Release Keywords: Dos SoftPC Next Microsoft Windows Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1993 20:13:09 GMT For all you folks out there who have been asking about SoftPC for NeXTStep Intel, here is your answer: SoftPC w/Windows for NeXTStep Intel will be shipped with the 3.2 version of NeXTStep. The version is a demo version that will install and run for thirty days to allow users to evaluate it's speed and performance. Some other questions: How much does it cost to upgrade from my existing SoftPC to the Intel version? Sorry, SoftPC for Intel is a new product and will be sold as such. There is no upgrade to the new version. What are the differences between this version and the old one? Aside from running on a new hardware platform, SoftPC now includes support for NetWare and DOS TCP/ip to allow the "PC" access to the network. Running on native hardware gives it a performance boost to near native speeds. How much does it cost? Sorry, I am out of the loop here. As I said, SoftPC demo is included with your 3.2 OS. Give it a try. If you need specs or sales info, call our Boston office at (508) 682-7600. -- Stiv Ostenberg stiv@netcom.netcom.com| Sable, Saltairwise, a Claighmore ---------------------------------------+ inverted Argent, a Rowan Branch Or Tech Support, Insignia Solutions | --<------ ------>-- ---------------------------------------+ Conner MacCiaran
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: SoftPC for NeXT Intel Date: 1 Nov 1993 22:03:20 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Distribution: world Message-ID: <2b4138$2ur@agate.berkeley.edu> References: <stivCFtxHy.ApD@netcom.com> In article <stivCFtxHy.ApD@netcom.com> stiv@netcom.com (Stiv D. Ostenberg) writes: >SoftPC w/Windows for NeXTStep Intel will be shipped with the 3.2 >version of NeXTStep. The version is a demo version that will install >and run for thirty days to allow users to evaluate. 30 days, starting WHEN? Fixed calender date or fixed # of days after install? If I can't install 3.2 immediately (like having it back-ordered), do I only get a disabled copy when finally installed? Is there any provision for giving, e.g, a refreshed 30-day trial password for those users who gets to it a little late? -- Izumi Ohzawa [ $@Bg_78^=;(J ] USMail: University of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720 Telephone: (510) 642-6440 Fax: (510) 642-3323 Internet: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (NeXTMail OK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jmeacham@ants.ci.net (James D. Meacham 3rd) Subject: Looking for Old Version of Time Flies Message-ID: <1993Nov1.191805.1053@ants.ci.net> Sender: jmeacham@ants.ci.net Organization: Andover Newton Theological School Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1993 19:18:05 GMT Hi All, I'm looking for a version of TimeFlies that will run on NS 2.1, which, according to the company, is version 2.0. If anyone has a copy of this and wouldn't mind NeXTMailing it to me, I'd like to talk to you. Thanks in advance. Peace, James --- _____________________________________________________________________ James David Meacham, 3rd M.Div. Candidate Andover Newton Theological School e-mail:jmeacham@ants.ci.net 7 Flint Road Phone: 617-926-6024 Watertown, MA 02172 NeXTMAIL accepted Intern Minister 64-66 Marlborough Street First and Second Church in Boston Boston, MA 02116 (Unitarian Universalist) 617-267-6730 _____________________________________________________________________ -- _____________________________________________________________________ James David Meacham, 3rd M.Div. Candidate
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: ly@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Eric Ly) Subject: NCSA Mosaic Message-ID: <1993Nov1.223220.7174@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University. Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1993 22:32:20 GMT Please forgive me if this subject has been discussed before. Is there a version of Mosaic for NeXTSTEP? Our research group here is about to embark on a project here with distributed information systems, and Mosaic seems like a good tool. If someone can point me to one, that would be much appreciated. If there isn't one available, I would be willing to help in creating a version for NeXTSTEP. Eric Ly CS PhD Student Stanford University
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software From: markus@isolde.stgt.sub.org (Markus Stoll) Subject: Re: Emacs 19 under NS natively (was: Get events without [NXApp run]?) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Message-ID: <1993Oct31.091649.6840@isolde.stgt.sub.org> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Organization: GbR Stoll & Stoeffler, Stuttgart, Germany References: <SPETERS.93Oct26105228@samsun.us.oracle.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1993 09:16:49 GMT Stephen Peters (speters@samsun.us.oracle.com) wrote: > In article <REUVEN.93Oct26101733@alexander-hamilton.mit.edu> reuven@athena.mit.edu (Reuven Lerner) writes: > > >>>>> On Mon, 25 Oct 1993 19:42:04 GMT, cedman@princeton.edu (Carl > > >>>>> Edman) said: > > > Carl> Michael Brouwer and I ported emacs 19.19 to run under NS just > > Same here. 19.19 is quite stable, frankly -- I don't see any pressing > needs to worry about future revisions just yet. Make source available > (since that's the GNU way :-), and add a note saying that you will not > be able to actively support it in parallel to the standard > moving-target GNU releases. Yes, PLEASE release this stuff! -- Markus Stoll, markus@isolde.stgt.sub.org (NeXTMail preferred) stoll@vaxph.mpi-stuttgart.mpg.de
From: hal@alfred.econ.lsa.umich.edu (Hal Varian) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NCSA Mosaic Date: 2 Nov 1993 00:50:13 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Message-ID: <2b4as5$h78@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu> References: <1993Nov1.223220.7174@csd-newshost.stanford.edu> In article <1993Nov1.223220.7174@csd-newshost.stanford.edu> ly@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Eric Ly) writes: >Please forgive me if this subject has been discussed before. Is there >a version of Mosaic for NeXTSTEP? Our research group here is about to >embark on a project here with distributed information systems, and >Mosaic seems like a good tool. If someone can point me to one, that >would be much appreciated. If there isn't one available, I would be >willing to help in creating a version for NeXTSTEP. There's a version of xmosaic that runs under NeXTstep in the contrib directory at ncsa. (The standard release of xmosaic compiles with very minor changes.) There's a project at CERN to update the WWW NeXTstep app, but I don't know when it will be released. -- Hal.Varian@umich.edu Hal Varian voice: 313-764-2364 Dept of Economics fax: 313-764-2364 Univ of Michigan Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1220
From: zmonster@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Eric M Hermanson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Educational discounted software - What's good? Date: 2 Nov 1993 02:20:46 GMT Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology Message-ID: <2b4g5u$2oa@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> References: <DavidKelman.12.0@abyss.niehs.nih.gov> <CFtt0w.89r@cs.uiuc.edu> In article <CFtt0w.89r@cs.uiuc.edu> eric_t@cs.uiuc.edu writes: >In article <DavidKelman.12.0@abyss.niehs.nih.gov> >DavidKelman@abyss.niehs.nih.gov writes: >> Hello, >> >> I'm a grad student and have a non-turbo NeXTStation. I know that a number >> of software houses offer educational discounts, but I was wondering if anyon >> could recommend good packages to purchase. 1. SciPlot 3.6. This shareware 2-D plotting package is one of the most advanced packages I have seen on ANY platform. It is available via anonymous ftp on cs.orst.edu, and the author asks that you send him $35 if you use it regularly. 2. From Lighthouse Design you should look into Concurrence, an inexpensive but very versatile presentation program. 3. Cub-X-Windows allows full integration of NEXTSTEP and X environments, and I believe it is only $100 for students (user+developer). 4. I don't have it yet, but Executor seems to be a good buy to stay compatible with the Macintosh labs here on campus. It is only $100 for students, I think. 5. Virtuoso is a must for any artists. 6. Too bad Improv 2.0 is not available for NEXTSTEP. I use Improv all the time for spreadsheeting. See if you can't pick up a used copy of Improv1.0. You should be able to get a good deal on this very useful program from comp.sys.next.marketplace. 7. Equation Builder is helpful with equation editing when I am writing a paper. It's compatibility with NeXT TeX makes it more useful. This is also very inexpensive, sold by Digital Toolworks. Good Luck, Eric
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mal2n@fulton.seas.Virginia.EDU (Matt Leonard) Subject: NS 3.2 Academic Pricing Message-ID: <CFu773.GCH@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU Organization: University of Virginia Distribution: usa Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1993 23:42:39 GMT What is the price of NS FIP 3.2 for a full time student? Is there a full working model or evaluation version? Thanks, Matt Leonard
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) Subject: CAP 6.0 on NexTStep3.0 Message-ID: <1993Nov2.050831.12076@csus.edu> Sender: news@csus.edu Organization: San Francisco State University References: <1993Oct29.220846.28880@leland.Stanford.EDU> <2b3ds7$hj3@tribune.usask.ca> Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1993 05:08:31 GMT In article <2b3ds7$hj3@tribune.usask.ca> whitem@jester.usask.ca (Matt White) writes: >First of all, unless you've done some hard work, Ethertalk is not >supported on NeXT machines, which means you must use IPTalk. I believe that all changed when UAR was released. >If you (or anyone...) has been able to get CAP running with Ethertalk on >a NeXT, PLEASE let me know..... I've made several offers in the past to work with any qualified site that wanted to attempt this, and there were *no* volunteers. Unfortunately, I no longer have time to spare... :-( -=EPS=-
From: bjohnson@nevis.verity.com (Brett M. Johnson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Emacs 19 under NS natively (was: Get events without [NXApp run]?) Date: 1 Nov 1993 22:44:56 GMT Organization: Verity Inc. - Home of TOPIC Text Retreive System. Message-ID: <2b43h8$i1j@hawaii.verity.com> References: <CEDMAN.93Oct25154204@capitalist.princeton.edu> In article <CEDMAN.93Oct25154204@capitalist.princeton.edu> cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes: > In article <SOWA.93Oct25113854@amdew.llnl.gov> sowa@amdew.llnl.gov (Erik C. Sowa) writes: > >>>>> "Carl" == Carl Edman <cedman@princeton.edu> writes: > > Carl> we ported Emacs 19.19 to run under NS natively. > I had been looking at the task of writing a NS version of Lucid Emacs 19 but wanted to check the net to see if someone had already done so. I find it disappointing to find that yes the work has been done, but no I can't have it. Carl, please post your NS Emacs 19 port. It would make many folks very happy. Brett Johnson bjohnson@verity.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: coconut@crash.cts.com (Brian Dear) Subject: Re: SoftPC for NeXT Intel Organization: Coconut Computing, Inc., La Jolla, CA Date: 01 Nov 93 22:11:23 PST Message-ID: <1993Nov01.221123.24368@crash> References: <stivCFtxHy.ApD@netcom.com> Stiv D. Ostenberg (stiv@netcom.com) wrote: : [....] : Sorry, SoftPC for Intel is a new product and will be sold as : such. There is no upgrade to the new version. : : [....] : Sorry, I am out of the loop here. As I said, SoftPC demo is : included with your 3.2 OS. Give it a try. If you need specs : or sales info, call our Boston office at (508) 682-7600. : [....] : : Tech Support, Insignia Solutions | --<------ ------>-- : ---------------------------------------+ Conner MacCiaran Sorry, indeed. I predict that the SoftPC for Intel "deal" will in time be looked back upon with the same kind of criticism given to the "Improv deal" and other "deals" NeXT has come up with. I think NeXT should not have "bundled" a fake SoftPC package with 3.2, followed by misleading press releases claiming "Windows and DOS support" in 3.2, when there is no such thing in 3.2. You get a demo of a third party app. What's the difference between this kind of demo and the kinds of demos you get on the "Third Party CD-ROM" that NeXT includes with 3.1? We don't see announcements from NeXT saying that "Concurrence" and "PasteUp" and "Appsoft Image" and "Mesa" and so on are part of 3.2. I think that this SoftPC thing may backfire. I also feel cheated that Insignia won't offer at least some kind of consolation for those suckers (me included) who bought SoftPC for NeXT machines. I think some small discount just to keep some goodwill would have been a good move. But, I guess the answer is "Sorry." Indeed. - bd
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,su.computers.next From: mpetach@storm.Stanford.EDU (Matthew N. Petach) Subject: Re: CAP 6.0 on NexTStep3.0 Message-ID: <1993Nov2.064722.23384@leland.Stanford.EDU> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,su.computers.next Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: Stanford University References: <1993Oct29.220846.28880@leland.Stanford.EDU> Distribution: ba Date: Tue, 2 Nov 93 06:47:22 GMT NB: Bounce to user. Ranjini Ramachandran (tamarind@leland.Stanford.EDU) wrote: : I'm having problems installing CAP6 on a NeXT3.0? : No problems during the install. : I ran aarpd. I start atis, and start-cap-servers : ( which starts aufs among other things, I suppose...) and : set up the afpvols, etc.,etc., : The fileserver never shows up in the Chooser and also, : the "getzones" program that is supposed to give a list : of zones, returns an error; : error -1096 getting zone list : Any suggestions? : ( an e-mail messahe would be highly appreciated...) : Thanks : Ranjini Make sure you have the necessary links in /etc, and make sure your /etc/atalk.local files are setup correctly: here's ours; modify as necessary. Storm.Stanford.EDU:/users/user/mpetach> more /etc/at* #host's appletalk network, node of machine, zone 21.1 189 Sweet2 #bridge's appletalk network, node, and Kbox's ip address 21.1 138 36.21.0.138 If you're not sure of this info, send a note back indicating what zone you're in and what your IP address is, and I can send you an example of what the correct file should be. Hope this helps! Matt Petach Yes, we have CAP6.0 running perfectly under NS3.0 :-)
From: jmd@cube.handheld.com (Jim De Arras) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: compiling fat binaries Date: 30 Oct 1993 03:53:10 GMT Organization: Hand Held Products, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <2asof6INNfhi@clem.handheld.com> References: <CFIpts.7pF@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> In article <CFIpts.7pF@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> jpw@sansfoy.lib.virginia.edu (John Price-Wilkin) writes: > Sorry this question is so braindead, but can someone tell me what the > process is for compiling fat binaries under 3.1? I've done a complete > install and used the option for both Intel and Black. When I did > a make on something I'd compiled under 3.0, I thought that I would > automagically end up with something that would run on both platforms. > Not so. So, is there a simple-minded solution for this simple-minded > approach? > > John Price-Wilkin > jpw@virginia.edud Black. When I did > a make on something I'd compiled under 3.0, I thought that I would > automagically end up with something that would run on both platforms. I assume this is not an IB project. In the CC compiler options, add "-ARCH i386 -ARCH m68k" I may have the caps wrong. Jim -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jim De Arras - WA4ONG | "Government is not reason; it is not eloquence; NRA-ILA, GOA, CCRKBA, | it is a force. Like fire, it is a dangerous GSSF, VSRRA | servant and a fearful master." jmd@handheld.com | -- George Washington
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: gsl@netcom.com (Greg Lindholm) Subject: Re: CD Player for Intel Message-ID: <gslCFutn3.8EB@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) References: <1993Oct30.043043.6185@weston.com> Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1993 07:47:27 GMT Wes Spears (jspears@weston.com) wrote: : Is there a beast available for Intel that will play music CD's. I can use : either a commercial or non-commercial app. : THanks : -- : Wes Spears <-------> jspears@weston.com (NeXTMail Welcome) : The Weston Group (UUCP and SENDMAIL Consultation) : 8524 Highway 6 North, 162, Houston, TX 77095 A TEAC CD-50 works just fine with the CDPlayer.app in Demos. I first tried a Toshiba(in IBM box) and then an NEC-74 which didn't play. Greg Lindholm gsl@netcom.com
Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.sys.next.software From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) Subject: Re: NeXT support in Emacs In-Reply-To: dtm@booyaa.ebay.sun.com's message of 30 Oct 1993 19:07:26 GMT To: dtm@booyaa.ebay.sun.com (Duane T. Mun) Message-ID: <CEDMAN.93Oct31100023@capitalist.princeton.edu> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University References: <9310292352.AA28989@mole.gnu.ai.mit.edu> <2atqi8$pou@nic.lth.se> <DTM.93Oct30120726@booyaa.ebay.sun.com> Distribution: gnu Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1993 15:00:22 GMT In article <DTM.93Oct30120726@booyaa.ebay.sun.com> dtm@booyaa.ebay.sun.com (Duane T. Mun) writes: "Christian" == Christian Brunschen <d89cb@efd.lth.se> writes: Christian> NeXT users want a native port of Emacs to NeXTstep, one Christian> that is "official" such that there aren't 6 different, Christian> slightly-incompatible-with-each-other ports floating Christian> around. Which of the six will become the _official_ port? It would be up to the people doing the port to coordinate this, right? So... Right now there is only _one_ port. But as soon as the source is released to be freely hacked upon by anyone and without a central location to collect improvements there _will_ be six different incompatible versions. Why does this port _have_ to be part of the distribution? There could be a pointer to the diffs of the _offical_ port in the Next FAQ (I am assuming there is one) and/or the Emacs FAQ. Because this port requires changes in the main part of the Emacs code. These changes are not particularily big and we tried our best to keep them as small as possible over almost any other consideration. But a few simple ones remain. Simple things like calling foo_bar instead of x_foo_bar where foo_bar is a function which automatically dispatches to x_foo_bar or dps_foo_bar or baz_foo_bar if baz ever gets supported by Emacs 19. Doing the same not only in C code, but also in the emacs lisp code. Refering to "the window system" instead of "the X window system" in the documentation of generic functions. Doing '#ifdef HAVE_WINDOW_SYSTEM' instead of '#ifdef HAVE_X11' in many places. Small things like that which cause no net increase in work for the FSF. By no means do we expect the FSF to fix bugs in the DPS code, or to add features to it or even to do a test compile on it every time there is a no release. However, if the NeXT distribution is not added, one of two things will happen: a) Michael or I will have to get the source distribution for every single new patch (and that means another 40 patches if emacs 19 proves as patchable as emacs 18) and go through it _again_ line by line. We did it once and that is a lot of work. Writing the code with the awareness that there is more than one window system out there is almost no work for the maintainers. b) Emacs 19 for NeXTstep will remain at patchlevel 19 forever. That would be particularily unfortunate as the NS window system would benefit greatly from some currently half-implemented-but-disabled features like variable size fonts and proportional fonts because almost all fonts on that system are proportional and their sizes in general are not commensurate. I think both of these outcomes would be unfortunate. Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk (Scott A. McIntyre) Subject: Re: NCSA Mosaic Message-ID: <scott.752243276@shrug> Organization: University of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK, NE1 7RU Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1993 12:27:56 GMT References: <1993Nov1.223220.7174@csd-newshost.stanford.edu> <2b4as5$h78@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu> hal@alfred.econ.lsa.umich.edu (Hal Varian) writes: }In article <1993Nov1.223220.7174@csd-newshost.stanford.edu> ly@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Eric Ly) writes: }>Please forgive me if this subject has been discussed before. Is there }>a version of Mosaic for NeXTSTEP? Our research group here is about to }>embark on a project here with distributed information systems, and }>Mosaic seems like a good tool. If someone can point me to one, that }>would be much appreciated. If there isn't one available, I would be }>willing to help in creating a version for NeXTSTEP. }There's a version of xmosaic that runs under NeXTstep in }the contrib directory at ncsa. (The standard release }of xmosaic compiles with very minor changes.) There's }a project at CERN to update the WWW NeXTstep app, but }I don't know when it will be released. Ummm, this could be slightly confusing for those that don't know X and the diffrence between that and NeXTSTEP...if I understand the question correctly, Eric Ly wants to know if there is a version of Mosaic that will work with NeXTSTEP, to which the answer, in so far as I am aware, is "no". However, Hal Varian's reply seems to suggest that there is... Unless I am way off (and I don't think I am, considering how much X'ing i've been doing), xmosaic *will not run without X on a NeXT computer*. In other words, getting the XMosaic client precompiled and attempting to run it on you NeXTSTEP machine will not give you any joy, unless you are running a X server such as Cub'X or Co-Xist. There is a version of a NeXTSTEP WWW browser from CERN, but it is nothing like Xmosaic (IMHO). One more thing about xmosaic, it doesn't like NeXT colour machines as they run in 16 bit image depth, and mosaic wants 2, 8 or 24. As a result if you're running a X server in native NeXT colour mode, you may find you can't display images or that xmosaic will crash (ironically, early versions of mosaic could handle this depth, but more recents can not). If I'm wrong, please tell me. -- EMAIL: scott@shrug.org (NeXTmail accepted) OR S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk SNAIL: Pyschment of Departology, University of Durham, Durham, DH1 3LE "In another novel, I *am* you"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Michael_Pizolato@afs.com (Michael Pizolato) Subject: Newsgrazer Pro? Message-ID: <1993Nov2.133437.4020@afs.com> Sender: Michael_Pizolato@afs.com Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1993 13:34:37 GMT Has Newsgrazer Pro shipped (I think it was due sometime last month)? If it did, I missed the announcement. Thanx, Michael -- Michael_Pizolato@afs.com NeXTMail accepted
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: joe@FreemanSoft.com (Joe Freeman) Subject: splitting directories for mailing Message-ID: <1993Nov2.145827.17893@FreemanSoft.com> Sender: jfreeman@FreemanSoft.com Organization: FreemanSoft Inc. Distribution: usa Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1993 14:58:27 GMT I sometimes have the need to mail a large directory to some offsite user. And, many times they have a 1.0MB limit for email messages. What tools do people use to cut their packages into smaller chunks so that they can be emailed. It would be really nice if NeXT mail would do this for me but of course, it can't. Heck, it would be nice if NeXT mail would even tell me how big the package was before I sent it. And.... -- Joe Freeman FreemanSoft Inc. A NEXTSTEP software and consulting services company. Electronic Mail: Joe@FreemanSoft.com (NeXT Mail) Voice: 919.783.7033
From: wherndon@smiley.mitre.org (William Herndon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Opener.app - drag & drop doesn't work? Date: 2 Nov 1993 14:32:47 GMT Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean, VA Message-ID: <2b5r2g$hrc@newsflash.mitre.org> I've installed the latest version of Opener.app on my NeXTStation, but for some reason, the drag & drop facility for archiving files/director- ies isn't working. Anybody got any ideas? Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Thanks much. - Max | William R. Herndon \ The MITRE Corporation, Dept. G023 | | EMail: wherndon@mitre.org \ Secure Information Technology | | NeXTMail: <out of order> \ MS-Z231, 703.883.6393 | | | | "The world bores you when you're cool." - Calvin |
From: cahalan@clouds.gsfc.nasa.gov (Robert F. Cahalan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NCSA Mosaic Date: 2 Nov 1993 15:32:29 GMT Organization: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center -- InterNetNews site Distribution: world Message-ID: <2b5uid$e1@skates.gsfc.nasa.gov> References: <scott.752243276@shrug> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In article <scott.752243276@shrug> S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk (Scott A. McIntyre) writes: > hal@alfred.econ.lsa.umich.edu (Hal Varian) writes: > > }In article <1993Nov1.223220.7174@csd-newshost.stanford.edu> ly@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Eric Ly) writes: > > }>Please forgive me if this subject has been discussed before. Is there > }>a version of Mosaic for NeXTSTEP? Our research group here is about to > }>embark on a project here with distributed information systems, and > }>Mosaic seems like a good tool. If someone can point me to one, that > }>would be much appreciated. If there isn't one available, I would be > }>willing to help in creating a version for NeXTSTEP. > > }There's a version of xmosaic that runs under NeXTstep in > }the contrib directory at ncsa. (The standard release > }of xmosaic compiles with very minor changes.) There's > }a project at CERN to update the WWW NeXTstep app, but > }I don't know when it will be released. > STUFF DELETED .... > xmosaic *will not run without X on a NeXT computer*. > In other words, getting the XMosaic client precompiled and attempting to > run it on you NeXTSTEP machine will not give you any joy, unless you are > running a X server such as Cub'X or Co-Xist. > There is a version of a NeXTSTEP WWW browser from CERN, but it is > nothing like Xmosaic (IMHO). > -- > EMAIL: scott@shrug.org (NeXTmail accepted) OR S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk > SNAIL: Pyschment of Departology, University of Durham, Durham, DH1 3LE > "In another novel, I *am* you" I agree with Scott that Xmosaic doesn't run well on NeXT, and that the current www browser, version 0.14, isn't as nice. Just to add some things: the browser was developed on the NeXT, then ported it to X, Mac and PC (MSwindows), and given to NCSA to maintain. Someone (hello?) recently claimed in this forum that somebody at CERN was porting it BACK to NeXT. I followed this up with mail to both the poster (hello?) and to www-bug@info.cern.ch, but so far have gotten no reply. Obviously, we'd like to see the NeXT version spiffed up with all the bells and whistles currently in Xmosaic. Running it inside a CoXist window on the dimension is a real dog! Video works s.l.o.w.l.y... and sound doesn't work at all. I prefer the 0.14 browser to that, even though it's only text. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ .Dr. Robert F. Cahalan (Bob)...#..Laboratory for Atmospheres...... .cahalan@clouds.gsfc.nasa.gov..#..NASA-Goddard Space Flight Center .*** NeXTMail accepted ***.....#..Greenbelt, MD 20771............. .FAX: (301) 286-1627...........#..voice: (301) 286-4276........... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: Hal.Varian@umich.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NCSA Mosaic Date: 2 Nov 1993 16:02:48 GMT Organization: University of Michigan - College of Literature, Science, and TheArts Distribution: world Message-ID: <2b60b8$kv3@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu> References: <2b5uid$e1@skates.gsfc.nasa.gov> In article <2b5uid$e1@skates.gsfc.nasa.gov> cahalan@clouds.gsfc.nasa.gov (Robert F. Cahalan) writes: > Running it inside a CoXist window on the dimension > is a real dog! Video works s.l.o.w.l.y... and sound doesn't work at all. > I prefer the 0.14 browser to that, even though it's only text. I'm running xmosaic using coXist on a TurboColor. I would say that the performance is on the slow side, but not what I would call a real dog. Video, postscript and sound all work fine, once you use the right trick. Here's what I do: Create an ascii file called "showaudio" which contains the following commands: mv $1 $1.snd open $1.snd Use chmod to make showaudio executable and put it somewhere in your path. You can do the same thing for PostScript and MPEG files, but this will only work if you are not using a full screen X-window system. One other thing: the current (alpha) version of WWW is 1.0. Apparently it has lots of bugs, but it appears that work is progressing. -- Hal.Varian@umich.edu Hal Varian voice: 313-764-2364 Dept of Economics fax: 313-764-2364 Univ of Michigan Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1220
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: eric_t@cs.uiuc.edu (Eric de_la_Tribouille) Subject: Re: NCSA Mosaic Message-ID: <CFvJLM.5FK@cs.uiuc.edu> Sender: news@cs.uiuc.edu Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL References: <scott.752243276@shrug> Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1993 17:08:10 GMT In article <scott.752243276@shrug> S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk (Scott A. McIntyre) writes: > hal@alfred.econ.lsa.umich.edu (Hal Varian) writes: > > }In article <1993Nov1.223220.7174@csd-newshost.stanford.edu> ly@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Eric Ly) writes: > [...] > Ummm, this could be slightly confusing for those that don't know X and > the diffrence between that and NeXTSTEP...if I understand the question > correctly, Eric Ly wants to know if there is a version of Mosaic that > will work with NeXTSTEP, to which the answer, in so far as I am aware, > is "no". However, Hal Varian's reply seems to suggest that there is... > > Unless I am way off (and I don't think I am, considering how much X'ing > i've been doing), xmosaic *will not run without X on a NeXT computer*. > > In other words, getting the XMosaic client precompiled and attempting to run > it on you NeXTSTEP machine will not give you any joy, unless you are running > a X server such as Cub'X or Co-Xist. > > There is a version of a NeXTSTEP WWW browser from CERN, but it is nothing > like Xmosaic (IMHO). > > One more thing about xmosaic, it doesn't like NeXT colour machines as > they run in 16 bit image depth, and mosaic wants 2, 8 or 24. As a result > if you're running a X server in native NeXT colour mode, you may find > you can't display images or that xmosaic will crash (ironically, early > versions of mosaic could handle this depth, but more recents can not). > > If I'm wrong, please tell me. > > > -- > EMAIL: scott@shrug.org (NeXTmail accepted) OR S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk > SNAIL: Pyschment of Departology, University of Durham, Durham, DH1 3LE > "In another novel, I *am* you" Hi Folks ! Well, Cub'X-Window's cost is only $100 for students. A good investment, don't you think ? Try academic@cubx.com to get some info. BTW, I'm using the version of Xmosaic compiled on NeXT with Cub'X-Window, and it run perfectly. Cub'X-Window run in 2 or 12 bit colors and emulate the 8 bit pseudo color. Cheers, - Eric --- _____________________________________________________________________ | Eric de la Tribouille | Advanced Collaborative Systems Lab. eric_t@cs.uiuc.edu | Department of Computer Science | University of Illinois at | Urbana-Champaign | 1304W. Springfield Avenue NeXT-Mail very welcome ! | Urbana, ILL 61801, USA ?;?)/ TOMORROW's TOOLS TODAY ! _____________________________________________________________________ Opinions expressed are my own. "The trouble with our times is that the future is not what it used to be." - Paul Valery
From: kay@cs.tu-berlin.de (Kay Neuenhofen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Request for user experience with PhoneKit Date: 2 Nov 1993 18:48:47 GMT Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <2b6a2f$28m@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Is there anyone out there using PhoneKit ? Where do you use it for ? (connectivity or telephony ?) Positive/negative experience ? Please reply via email to kay@cs.tu-berlin.de, I'll summarize. Thanks
From: dubois@primate.wisc.edu (Paul DuBois) Newsgroups: comp.text,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: RTF Specification available online Date: 2 Nov 1993 12:42:16 -0600 Organization: Castra Parvulorum Sender: dubois@uakari.primate.wisc.edu Message-ID: <2b69m8INNl6d@uakari.primate.wisc.edu> References: <2b3sqeINNepa@uakari.primate.wisc.edu> Yesterday I posted a message about the availability of the RTF specification online. The spec has some embedded pictures in it that some RTF readers do not handle well. For people who just want to *print* the specification, I've converted it to PostScript and made that available as well. The file name is RTF-Spec.ps. See below for location. From article <2b3sqeINNepa@uakari.primate.wisc.edu>, by dubois@uakari.primate.wisc.edu (Paul DuBois): > > The specification is available for anonymous FTP on ftp.primate.wisc.edu > in /pub/RTF, and for gopher access from gopher.primate.wisc.edu under > "Primate Center Software Archives". -- Paul DuBois dubois@primate.wisc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mshaler@tdocad.sps.mot.com (Michael Shaler) Subject: Re: splitting directories for mailing Message-ID: <CFvJnG.EFK@tdocad.sps.mot.com> Sender: news@tdocad.sps.mot.com Organization: Nippon Motorola Ltd., Tokyo, Japan References: <1993Nov2.145827.17893@FreemanSoft.com> Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1993 17:09:14 GMT Joe Freeman writes I sometimes have the need to mail a large directory to some offsite user. [munch] Xanthus has an app called SplitReceiver/SplitBuilder which puts a nice front end on the chunky stuff...%^) It works quite well for exactly this purpose. --- Michael Shaler Tokyo Design Center Nippon Motorola Ltd. +813 3280 8245 voice +813 3440 0033 fax mshaler@tdocad.sps.mot.com [NeXTmail]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: glen@netcom.com (Steven Kornreich) Subject: News reader for NS_FIP Message-ID: <glenCFvLsG.7DH@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1993 17:55:28 GMT am looking fo a compiled version of tin, or rn or anything that will read flatfile news.. -steve
From: agm@doc.ic.ac.uk (Axel G Merk) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Linear & Nonlinear Programming: What software is available? Date: 2 Nov 1993 18:57:59 GMT Organization: Dept. of Computing, Imperial College, University of London, UK. Distribution: world Message-ID: <2b6ajn$8oe@frigate.doc.ic.ac.uk> Hi there, if you write linear/nonlinear programs, could you email me what routines/package you use on the NeXT (Motorola)? Thank you for sharing your experience. My advisor is not keen on my writing a dissertation with an 'incompatible' machine (he means the NeXT) - so, if you know of routines that are available on other platforms as well, all the better (for him). If you, however, know of routines that are implemented in Obj-C, all the better (for me). Thanks! Axel ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Axel Merk agm@doc.ic.ac.uk phone/fax +44-71-724 9089 -- -- 13 Archery Steps St. George's Fields Albion St London W2 2YF -- -- "One needs a certain amount of blindness to see perfection" -- ---------------------------------------------------- Christopher Nuzum ---
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: heberlei@cs.ucdavis.edu (Louis Todd Heberlein) Subject: RCS in a heterogeneous environment Message-ID: <CFvn2F.J6M@ucdavis.edu> Keywords: RCS, heterogeneous Sender: usenet@ucdavis.edu (News Administrator) Organization: University of California, Davis Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1993 18:23:01 GMT Summary: Two different RCS packages on Suns are using timestamps which do not match local time, by my NeXT uses timestamps with local time. The result, we cannot share a common RCS directory. I ran into an interesting problem the other day. I was co-writing a proposal with several colleagues, and we chose to use RCS to help maintain the different sections of the proposal. We created a common RCS directory and everyone mounted that directory onto their local machine. The machines in use were a NeXTstation running NS 3.0 (my machine) and a number of SPARCstations (from a SPARC 1 to a SPARC 10). On these machines, we were using three different sets of RCS binaries: one distributed with NEXTSTEP and two different packages compiled by two different people for the Suns. Unfortunately, I was having troubles losing changes and not being able to check-in modified files. The problem it turned out was that the RCS timestamps recorded by the two Sun versions were adding eight hours to the time (Since I am in California, I suspect the times were GMT), while the RCS timestamps recorded by my NeXT was using local times. Are the RCS timestamps supposed to be saved in local time or GMT? Are the two different Sun packages wrong, or is my NeXT wrong? Thanks, Todd Heberlein heberlei@cs.ucdavis.edu PS. I took a quick look at the RCS source code on the Sun (not the easiest code to follow), but I couldn't find any obvious swiches in the Makefile or #defines in the source code to get it to use local time in the timestamps.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: gvh@metrosoft.com (Gordon Van Huizen) Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP upgrade goofiness... Message-ID: <1993Nov2.192022.8594@metrosoft.com> Sender: gvh@metrosoft.com Organization: Metrosoft References: <jbell.93Nov11176@spiffy> Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1993 19:20:22 GMT In article <jbell.93Nov11176@spiffy> jbell@spiffy.cybernet.com writes: > I like the way that the > DSP access what taken out of 3.1 (is there a work around for this?), > I can no longer play score files. This is not strictly accurate. DSP access itself works fine with 3.1, I use it nearly daily from a variety of programs that access it via the SoundKit. ScorePlayer and Ensemble are built on top of the MusicKit, which is another matter. The MusicKit has been removed from NEXTSTEP releases and is available via anonymous FTP at ccrma-ftp.stanford.edu, as well as on the BANG CD-ROM. It appears that there are problems running apps built against previous versions of the MusicKit on 3.1, but I could have that wrong. Are David Jaffe or Julius Smith around? Gordon -- Gordon Van Huizen vox: 619.488.9411 fax: 619.488.3045 Metrosoft gvh@metrosoft.com [NeXTmail welcome]
From: mdd@zeke.Rockefeller.EDU (Mark D. Doyle) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Opener.app - drag & drop doesn't work? Message-ID: <1993Nov2.145725.11469@rockyd.rockefeller.edu> Organization: Rockefeller University References: <2b5r2g$hrc@newsflash.mitre.org> Date: Tue, 2 Nov 93 14:57:25 EST In article <2b5r2g$hrc@newsflash.mitre.org> wherndon@smiley.mitre.org (William Herndon) writes: > I've installed the latest version of Opener.app on my NeXTStation, but > for some reason, the drag & drop facility for archiving files/director- > ies isn't working. > > Anybody got any ideas? Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks much. > I noticed that this happens if Opener is on the dock. It works fine for me if I don't put it on the dock. It seems to be a bug of some sort. Mark Doyle mdd@zeke.rockefeller.edu
From: dzoey@terminus.apexgrp.com (Joe Herman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Interface to NeXT Mail front end Date: 2 Nov 1993 15:34:43 -0500 Organization: The Apex Group Distribution: world Message-ID: <2b6g93$il8@terminus.apexgrp.com> Hello, I'm trying to figure out a way to have the NeXT mail program call my programs to send and receive mail. I want to replace sendmail when sending the mail and (here's the hard part) have the mail client call my program when retrieving mail instead of looking in the file system. Unfortunatly, the interface to the mail program doesn't seem to support this kind of direction. I'd rather not write my own client because I like the system Mail client. Anyone have any suggestions or pointers? Thanks, Joe Herman dzoey@apexgrp.com P.S. B.C., if you're out there, drop me a note or give me a call.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (Michael Friendly) Subject: NewsGrazer crashes Message-ID: <CFvw2G.46G@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca> Sender: news@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca (USENET News System) Organization: York University Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1993 21:37:27 GMT When viewing articles from the List view, NewsGrazer (v72.3) dies shortly after I click on the first article - it displays the article, but then all its windows disappear. There's no message in the console log. This does not happen when viewing articles from the Browser view, so I can still use NewsGrazer. Still it's annoying. Has anyone else experienced this problem or discovered what causes it, or how to fix it? I'm running NS 3.0 on black HW. -- Michael Friendly Internet: friendly@vm1.yorku.ca Psychology Department NeXTmail: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca York University 4700 Keele Street Toronto, ONT M3J 1P3 CANADA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: gerald@kurt.in-berlin.de (Gerald Erdmann) Subject: Re: Tailor.app : Anyone using it ? Message-ID: <1993Nov1.230328.2559@kurt.in-berlin.de> Sender: gerald@kurt.in-berlin.de References: <1993Oct31.141010.1844@joker.fdn.org> Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1993 23:03:28 GMT In article <1993Oct31.141010.1844@joker.fdn.org> ed@joker.fdn.org (Erik Dasque) writes: > Subject says it all. How good is it ? Robust ? Worth the (I dunnon how > much) green bills ? > Try it yourself, the latest demo (v1.0) is located on several ftp-server. -------------------------------------------------------------- | GERALD ERDMANN | email: gerald @ kurt.in-berlin.de (NeXTmail welcome) | voice: +49 30 372 43 10 (Germany - Berlin) |
From: a5g192@rick.cs.ubc.ca (Wei-Yuen Tan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: X for NeXT Date: 2 Nov 1993 14:26:08 -0800 Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada Distribution: world Message-ID: <2b6mq0INN6v9@gambier.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca> Does anyone out there know of something that allows me to run X off a remote server? I'm currently TA'ing in a class full of NeXT machines running NeXTStep 2.0, and would like to run X apps off my own account somewhere else in the building. It's highly unlikely that my boss would consider installing the full X11R5 stuff onto the NeXT server, and I only have a 6 megabyte disc quota to work with. I want to be able to telnet into my account and start up remote X-apps on the remote server (which happens to be a HP-UX machine). Anyone have any bright ideas?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: stiv@netcom.com (Stiv D. Ostenberg) Subject: Re: SoftPC for NeXT Intel Message-ID: <stivCFvx3x.28A@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) References: <stivCFtxHy.ApD@netcom.com> <1993Nov01.221123.24368@crash> Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1993 21:59:56 GMT coconut@crash.cts.com (Brian Dear) writes: >Sorry, indeed. I predict that the SoftPC for Intel "deal" will in time >be looked back upon with the same kind of criticism given to the "Improv >deal" and other "deals" NeXT has come up with. I think NeXT should not >have "bundled" a fake SoftPC package with 3.2, followed by misleading >press releases claiming "Windows and DOS support" in 3.2, when there is >no such thing in 3.2. You get a demo of a third party app. What's the >difference between this kind of demo and the kinds of demos you get on >the "Third Party CD-ROM" that NeXT includes with 3.1? We don't see >announcements from NeXT saying that "Concurrence" and "PasteUp" and >"Appsoft Image" and "Mesa" and so on are part of 3.2. I think that >this SoftPC thing may backfire. >I also feel cheated that Insignia won't offer at least some kind >of consolation for those suckers (me included) who bought SoftPC for >NeXT machines. I think some small discount just to keep some goodwill >would have been a good move. But, I guess the answer is "Sorry." >Indeed. >- bd Brian; First, the "demo" you mention is a full working copy that croaks after 30 days. You can call in and get a new license passcode and have a full working copy in 5 minutes. This release is listed as part of the NeXT OS because the DOS/Windows emulation is so critical on an Intel box. The NeXTStep Intel version of SoftPC required an awful lot of time and work by our engineers, and IS an entirely different product and platform. It is not an "upgrade" of SoftPC, it is a new product we had to develop. In the way of discounts, I understand the price is going to be around $250. Considering that WE have to pay royalties back to Microsoft on the licensed copies of DOS and Windows that ship with SoftPC (how much would you pay for those in a store?) I think that we are being pretty fair about pricing. Considering we have never offered SoftPC at these prices (it runs twice that on other platforms) I don't think you have fair cause for complaint. Stiv -- Stiv Ostenberg stiv@netcom.netcom.com| Sable, Saltairwise, a Claighmore ---------------------------------------+ inverted Argent, a Rowan Branch Or Tech Support, Insignia Solutions | --<------ ------>-- ---------------------------------------+ Conner MacCiaran
From: jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Joseph W Reiss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Trouble with Elm 2.4 Date: 2 Nov 1993 23:55:03 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <2b6s0n$5i@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> I posted about this a while ago, but never got any response, so I thought I'd try again. I'm trying to get elm v2.4 up on my NeXT, cause there are just some times when the good ol' text interface and editing in emacs come in handy. However, we all know that it can't be that simple. First, if I try to use a copy of my .elm directory from my school account, I get error messages like the following... I can't understand sort key "%$)4/2" in line 13 in your ".elm/elmrc" file I can't understand sort key "%3#!0%" in line 16 in your ".elm/elmrc" file I can't understand sort key "&5,,.!-%" in line 19 in your ".elm/elmrc" file I can't understand sort key "2%#%)6%$-!)," in line 22 in your ".elm/elmrc" file I can't understand sort key "-!),$)2" in line 25 in your ".elm/elmrc" file I can't understand sort key "4-0$)2" in line 28 in your ".elm/elmrc" file ...and this goes on and on for many, many lines. Second, if I get rid of my .elm directory, I get the following message when I run... Notice: This version of ELM requires the use of a .elm directory in your home directory to store your elmrc and alias files. Shall I create the directory .elm for you and set it up (y/n/q)? Quit. OK. Bailing out of ELM. ...even though I type a "y" at the prompt. The same thing happens with the ~/Mail directory prompt. If I create empty directories by hand for these two, then elm will run. But it screws up a lot of the key presses. For instance, if I enter the options menu, it complains when I type "i" to return to the mail list. That should work, but I have to type "I" (Shift-i) to exit. Several other places seem to have the shift key similarly hosed. Could someone please tell me what I might be doing wrong here and what I can do to correct it? As far as I know, it could be anything. I'd tend to think I misconfigured something when I tried to build the program, but I don't know what. If anyone has gotten elm 2.4 to work on their machine, could you please send me your "config.h" and "config.sh" files? Maybe if I recompile with proper configurations, something will give. Help! Anybody!!! Joe -- __________ | NeXTMail? We can do NeXTMail!!! | |___) | """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" \_/OE | \EISS | BORG ARE IRRELEVENT!!! <Hey, wait a minute.> <That's `---- | not right.> <Okay, who switched the scripts?>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bmhahn@poseidon.knoware.nl (Bernhard Hahn) Subject: Help with placing NeXT .EPS files in PageMaker 5.0 (Windows) Sender: news@knoware.nl (News Account) Message-ID: <CFvEoB.2s2@knoware.nl> Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1993 15:21:46 GMT Organization: Knoware Nederland Keywords: EPS, Windows, PageMaker Hi, I used DAN 2.0 to prepare some scientific graphics files in .EPS format on my NeXTcube (68040, NS 3.1) and sent them on a DOS formatted floppy to a publishing company. They use PageMaker 5.0 on a Windows machine and tried to place my .EPS files into their layout without success. The only thing they manage to do, is to get a grey rectangle, not only on the screen (as expected), but also when printing on a PostScript printer. On my NeXT system every application that can work with .EPS files shows and prints this files wihtout any problem. Do I need somekind of .EPS (NeXT) -> .EPS (DOS) converter, or what is going on here? If anyone can come up with a hint, please mail it directly to me, because I'm not sure wether all news reaches my local news server. I will summarize any results and post it back to this newsgroup. Thanks, --- Bernhard Hahn Holtrichtersveld 802 7327 DG Apeldoorn The Netherlands Tel: +31-55-339220 Fax: +31-55-339220 email: bmhahn@poseidon.knoware.nl (NeXT mail OK)
From: mbehrens@cs.utexas.edu (Mikael Behrens) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Object linking problem Date: 3 Nov 1993 02:20:25 GMT Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas Distribution: world Message-ID: <2b74h9$51l@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> Keywords: link Hi, I was experimenting with object linking in NS 3.1 on my NeXTStation, and things didn't seem to work as documented. In Draw.app I selected a figure and published it as a link. I got a .objlink file with the arrow icon. I opened an RTFD file in edit and dragged the .objlink file in, and all I get is the arrow icon. The picture that the link file represents doesn't show up in the edit file. This seems pretty useless. Am I missing something? -- Mikael Behrens mbehrens@cs.utexas.edu (NeXTMail OK) Computer Science student University of Texas at Austin "Attack ships on fire, off the shoulder of Orion..."
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: QuickBase Question Date: 3 Nov 1993 04:50:29 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <2b7dal$dve@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <1993Oct25.133115.19149@il.us.swissbank.com> cuilla@black_silk (Chris Cuilla) writes: > Hayward Lam writes > > Has anybody tried QuickBase? How much does it cost? How easy is it to > > use? > > I'm interested some inexpensive database server running on NeXT black > > or white hardware. > > > > Any comments welcomed. I've used it on black hardware. I like it. > > Hayward > > I have used it on a project. I liked it. It has a pretty > simple/straight-forward API for sending SQL code and getting results > back. I'm withholding my opinion on the DBAdaptor ow, since I have > yet to determine if certain problems I've experienced are there's > or mine. I know they are working to improve something in the DBKit adaptor. I too have used the original API instead of the DBKit adaptor. That was just because I was using QuickBase before NeXT released any of the DBKit stuff. > But...overall it's very good. Support from SofDesign is terrific. > > Cost...you'll have to check...they have a variety of items on their > menu. I wish I had their number handy for you...sorry. Try sending an email message to sdc@gun.com. If you want regular mail, try: SofDesign Solutions 47 Arch Street Greenwich, CT 06830 > Chris Cuilla > --- > P.S. I do not work for, consult for or have any interest in > QuickBase/SofDesign Solutions. In my case I've met the guy who started up SofDesign (he was a grad student here at RPI), but I don't have any financial connections to the company. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: theharv@csld.ucr.edu (Brian Harvey) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: DBASE style database for Next Date: 3 Nov 1993 05:15:17 GMT Organization: University of California, Riverside Message-ID: <2b7ep5$im8@galaxy.ucr.edu> Does anyone know if there is a flatfile database for the NeXTs that uses some sort of procedural language (i.e. DBASE)? Any information would be greatly appreciated! ----------------------------------------------------------------- Brian Harvey * theharv@csld.ucr.edu University of California, Riverside * brian@cs.ucr.edu UOB 221 Ext. 2842 C.S.L.D. System Administrator (NeXT Mail preferred everywhere!) Head Room Monitor -----------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.sys.next.software From: speters@samsun.us.oracle.com (Stephen Peters) Subject: Re: NeXT support in Emacs In-Reply-To: cedman@princeton.edu's message of Sun, 31 Oct 1993 15:00:22 GMT Message-ID: <SPETERS.93Nov2214806@samsun.us.oracle.com> Sender: usenet@oracle.us.oracle.com (Oracle News Poster) Organization: Oracle Corporation., Redwood City, CA, USA References: <9310292352.AA28989@mole.gnu.ai.mit.edu> <2atqi8$pou@nic.lth.se> <DTM.93Oct30120726@booyaa.ebay.sun.com> <CEDMAN.93Oct31100023@capitalist.princeton.edu> Distribution: gnu Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1993 05:48:05 GMT at Oracle Corporation. The opinions expressed are those of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle. In article <CEDMAN.93Oct31100023@capitalist.princeton.edu> cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes: > In article <DTM.93Oct30120726@booyaa.ebay.sun.com> dtm@booyaa.ebay.sun.com (Duane T. Mun) writes: > Which of the six will become the _official_ port? It would be up to > the people doing the port to coordinate this, right? So... > Right now there is only _one_ port. But as soon as the source is > released to be freely hacked upon by anyone and without a central > location to collect improvements there _will_ be six different > incompatible versions. Personally, I doubt this, but that's just my rather optimistic view of the world :-) > These changes are not particularily big and we tried our best to keep > them as small as possible over almost any other consideration. But a > few simple ones remain. Simple things like calling foo_bar instead of > x_foo_bar where foo_bar is a function which automatically dispatches > to x_foo_bar or dps_foo_bar or baz_foo_bar if baz ever gets supported > by Emacs 19. Doing the same not only in C code, but also in the emacs > lisp code. Refering to "the window system" instead of "the X window > system" in the documentation of generic functions. Doing '#ifdef > HAVE_WINDOW_SYSTEM' instead of '#ifdef HAVE_X11' in many places. Small > things like that which cause no net increase in work for the FSF. *Very* interesting. If I'm to understand this correctly, these core changes that you've written basically implement a foundation for easily adding alternate window systems into Emacs19, correct? This seems like an extremely worthwhile change to Emacs, and certainly one which should be added in, simply because it has a far greater impact than a NS-specific change would create. Making the windowing system less dependent on X and more modular can only be a *good* thing. I still balk at providing *all* the NS code in there, however. It seems to me that adding the modular windowing interface to the core code should be sufficient in making the NS patch (or indeed, a patch for any other windowing system, such as Motif, OpenLook, CDE, Windows, etc.) easily maintainable. Carl, am I correct in that assumption, or are there other issues at hand here? If the modular window system was in place, how easy would maintaining a patch for NS separate from the FSF distribution be? > However, if the NeXT distribution is not added, one of two things will > happen: > > a) Michael or I will have to get the source distribution for every > single new patch (and that means another 40 patches if emacs 19 > proves as patchable as emacs 18) and go through it _again_ line by > line. > b) Emacs 19 for NeXTstep will remain at patchlevel 19 forever. > > I think both of these outcomes would be unfortunate. Agreed, but I'm a little confused by the "all-or-nothing" possibilities we have here. From the above, I assume that either NS-Emacs19 has to be upgraded every time Emacs is, or it will never be upgraded at all. Surely, if it came to this, some middle ground could be found, such as NS-Emacs19 stays at one patchlevel until the useful features are added and become stable, and then a new NS-Emacs based on the higher patchlevel is created. In any event, I think the best solution for Emacs as a whole is to incorporate the code making the window systems more modular. I'm not convinced that all the NS code should be added to the FSF distribution, but it would be ideal (IMHO) if this core piece could be added. Stephen Peters
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software From: patt@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Sam Li) Subject: Anyone has experience with "Text-to-speech" yet? Message-ID: <CFwJIz.5B3@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> Followup-To: poster Keywords: text-to-speech Sender: news@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (USENET News) Organization: Purdue University Distribution: usa Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1993 06:04:10 GMT Hi, I am thinking of whether to try the Text-to-speech application or not. So, has anyone try that program yet? I think it has been on the market for a while, but I have never seen any review or comment on that yet! Can anyone tell me your experience and comments on the product? The most important thing is the accuracy of the program. Thanks! I can be reach at patt@sage.cc.purdue.edu <<<<Non-NeXTmail ONLY!!!>>>> Sam.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: john@wpa.com (John Bartley) Subject: 3.2 ships soon Message-ID: <CFvxnz.HIv@nimno.wpa.com> Sender: john@nimno.wpa.com (John Bartley) Organization: Workgroup Productivity Associates Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1993 22:11:58 GMT According to a NeXT Sales Manager today, 3.2 is at the plant being produced this week and should ship next week. Not an exact quote, but I believe that is the gist of his explanation.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: pat%cesar@cam.org (Patrique Lalonde) Subject: Power Fax and power Copy Message-ID: <1993Nov3.065838.2928@cesar.uucp> Sender: pat@cesar.uucp Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1993 06:58:38 GMT Hello, I just got the PowerScan, PowerCopy and PowerFax bundle. All it came with was the PowerScan user's manual. I can't seem to get the PowerCopy or PowerFax to work. All it does is hang while it is loading. HELP! P.S. Please reply by e-mail if possible. Patrique --- Patrique Lalonde pat%cesar
From: scheurer@lithnext.epfl.ch (Marco Scheurer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.infosystems.www Subject: NEXTSTEP, WWW, and NCSA Mosaic (was Re: NCSA Mosaic) Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software Date: 3 Nov 1993 12:42:22 GMT Organization: Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne Distribution: world Message-ID: <2b88ve$p6s@disuns2.epfl.ch> References: <2b5uid$e1@skates.gsfc.nasa.gov> In article <2b5uid$e1@skates.gsfc.nasa.gov> cahalan@clouds.gsfc.nasa.gov (Robert F. Cahalan) writes: > Someone (hello?) > recently claimed in this forum that somebody at CERN was porting it BACK > to NeXT. I followed this up with mail to both the poster (hello?) and to > www-bug@info.cern.ch, but so far have gotten no reply. Obviously, we'd > like to see the NeXT version spiffed up with all the bells and whistles > currently in Xmosaic. That someone might be me. I have received a lot of email (but none from you, sorry) about the announcement I've made that our lab was starting a NEXTSTEP WWW browser project. Everybody seems to like the idea and is very supportive. Here is all the information we can give at this time: - CERN has nothing to do with it. This project is undertaken here at EPFL (Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne - Swiss Federal Institute of Technology in Lausanne). One participant, formerly at CERN, from the team that developed WWW and the original NeXT browser will be helping. We will also contact Tim Berners-Lee, the CERN WWW project leader, about eventual code reuse from the current NeXT WWW browsers, and other subjects. - NCSA has nothing to do with it. NCSA has no plan to write a NEXTSTEP version of Mosaic. That's why we are going along with that project. We will probably reuse source code from Mosaic, and respect all copyright issues. - Our browser will not be called NCSA Mosaic for NEXTSTEP or anything like that. - We hope to include all Mosaic functionality, as well as edition capability. - Our browser should be made available with a license similar to CERN's, or NCSA's. - We don't have any time frame now. Work on this project should really begin in January 94. - About the current available versions of a NEXTSTEP browser, you should check, by anonymous ftp, /pub/www/bin/next at info.cern.ch, where the README file gives information about WWW 0.16 and WWW 1.0. Basically, 0.16 is a rudimentary browser AND an editor, while 1.0 implements more protocols for browsing (ftp for instance) but edition does not work. A better alternative to either 0.16 or 1.0 might be to use XMosaic with Cub'x or CoXist. - All the persons who expressed interest or support in that project will receive information on how things are going as soon as we get started. We'll be back on this news group when something worth using is ready for beta test. Crossposted to comp.infosystems.www Follow up to comp.sys.next.software Thanks, m --- Marco Scheurer scheurer@lithnext.epfl.ch (NeXTMail) Laboratoire d'Informatique Theorique Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne IN-Ecublens CH-1015 Lausanne (Switzerland) (+41) 21 693-2589
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: displaying .avi files -- NeXTStep 2.1 Message-ID: <1993Nov2.200104.11604@msuvx2.memst.edu> From: ananthm@next1.msci.memst.edu (Mangalam S Ananth) Date: 2 Nov 93 20:01:03 -0500 Distribution: tn Organization: Memphis State University, Memphis TN Summary: looking out for freeware/shareware for viewing .avi files Hi! We have a computer running NeXTStep 2.1. I want to see and hear a few .avi files. The Scene app didn't work. I ran out of options :-). Is there any freeware/shareware program available at a ftp site which I could use? Could some good samaritan please help? A bunch of us are eagerly awaiting your help! Ananth -- Mangalam S. Ananth Memphis State University Phone: (O) (901) 678-2482 (R): (901) 452-9170 Winfield Dunn #373 Fax: (901) 678-2480 Memphis TN 38152
From: andrewd@sematech.tamu.edu (Andrew Duchowski) Newsgroups: comp.text.tex,comp.sys.next.software Subject: (latex, dvips) problems with env.sty Date: 3 Nov 1993 04:58:04 GMT Organization: Sematech Research, Texas A&M University Message-ID: <2b7dos$9n7@TAMUTS.TAMU.EDU> Summary: printing errors on NeXT dvips 5.491 Keywords: latex dvips env envelope landscape asis [please note the crosspost] I recently obtained env.sty from the archives. I tried it out and got it to work 'as advertised' except for printing. That is, LaTeX (NeXT version 3.141) grind out the output file, and I could view it with TeXView on the next ('040, NS3.0). I couldn't print though (dvips versin 5.491) due to OffendingCommand asis, and landscape. Preview on the NeXT also complained but did show the output. For the tex people: is there a workaround to env.sty or something else I can use? I'd really like to get bar codes printed. I tried make-env but couldn't get it to work. For the NeXT people: is there a better dvips or something I can use to print out the .ps file? I suspect other printers would do it. I'd appreciate any comments via email: andrewd@cs.tamu.edu Thanks! Andrew -- -- Andrew Duchowski | #include <std/disclaimer.h> -- -- | #include <std/apologies.h> -- -- Texas A&M University | #include <std/salutations.h> -- -- andrewd@cs.tamu.edu (NeXTmail ok) | #include <std/asbestos.h> --
From: robert@amo.mit.edu(Robert Lutwak) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: SoftPC for NeXT Intel Date: 3 Nov 1993 14:58:45 GMT Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology Message-ID: <2b8gv5$9p6@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> References: <stivCFvx3x.28A@netcom.com> First of all, let me remind everyone that all of NSI's OS competitors provide DOS/WINDOWS compatibility out of the box, and I agree that NeXT is guilty of false advertising here. That said, I'd like to address: In article <stivCFvx3x.28A@netcom.com> stiv@netcom.com (Stiv D. Ostenberg) writes: Considering that WE have to pay royalties back to Microsoft on > the licensed copies of DOS and Windows that ship with SoftPC (how much > would you pay for those in a store?) I think that we are being pretty > fair about pricing. In a store, we might pay $150 for DOS/Windows. Supposing y'all pay Microsoft $100 for the same package, you ought to be able to sell SoftPC for $150 to all of us who got DOS/Windows licenses with our Intel Boxes. I imagine this amounts to at least 75% of us. I, for one, have so many unused, legal copies of DOS/WIN lying around that I don't even waste diskette boxes on them anymore. How about it Insignia? By the way, why didn't y'all work out a deal with NeXT in the first place so that they wouldn't be lying about DOS/WINDOWS support? I imagine that if you had worked with NeXT on this one you could have a done a superior job. -- Robert Lutwak robert@amo.mit.edu MIT Atomic Resonance and Spectroscopy Laboratory ---- NeXTmail always welcome ----
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: simsong@next.cambridge.ma.us (Simson L. Garfinkel) Subject: Re: NS Emacs 19 - a defence of RMS Message-ID: <1993Nov3.133455.3838@next.cambridge.ma.us> Sender: simsong@next.cambridge.ma.us Organization: NeXTWORLD Magazine References: <SANCHEZP.93Oct28093036@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu> Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1993 13:34:55 GMT In article <SANCHEZP.93Oct28093036@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu> sanchezp@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu (Paul J. Sanchez) writes: > I doubt RMS will change his mind, which means that the only way this > will be distributed is unofficially. Emacs 19.19 may be the first and > last version to run in native NS mode, but I could manage to live with > that - it's more than I've got now. I don't expect FSF to adopt it, > though. They've got their own agenda and more than enough work to do. > -- Not quite; it can be distributed officially, simply not by the Free Software Foundation. For example, NeXT could distribute it officially. The AppWrapper could distribute it officially as an added bonus. Carl Edman could even distribute it officially. Nobody has appointed FSF the High Progammer's Council. Witness the spread of Linux. The whole point of free software is that if somebody can do it better than you, they can take distribution away from you. Users are no more locked into proprietary decisions from Stallman as they are locked into decisions by Bill Joy. -- ................................................................simson
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: lorinr@altsys.com (Lorin Rivers III) Subject: Re: Object linking problem Message-ID: <1993Nov3.160443.812@altsys.com> Keywords: link Organization: Altsys Corporation, Richardson, TX References: <2b74h9$51l@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1993 16:04:43 GMT In article <2b74h9$51l@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> mbehrens@cs.utexas.edu writes: >Hi, > >I was experimenting with object linking in NS 3.1 on my NeXTStation, and >things didn't seem to work as documented. In Draw.app I selected a >figure and published it as a link. I got a .objlink file with the arrow >icon. I opened an RTFD file in edit and dragged the .objlink file in, >and all I get is the arrow icon. The picture that the link file >represents doesn't show up in the edit file. This seems pretty useless. >Am I missing something? > >-- >Mikael Behrens mbehrens@cs.utexas.edu (NeXTMail OK) >Computer Science student University of Texas at Austin >"Attack ships on fire, off the shoulder of Orion..." The easiest way to accomplish this is to: Create the object you want to be the linker in the app. Save. Copy the object to be linked. Open the the target doc. Go to the edit menu. Execute paste and link. There you are. -- Lorin Rivers Lorin_Rivers@altsys.com NEXTSTEP Sales Manager 214.680.2060 269 W. Renner Parkway NeXT Mail Expected Richardson, Texas 75080 I said it, not my boss
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: joe@FreemanSoft.com (Joe Freeman) Subject: Re: SoftPC for NeXT Intel Message-ID: <1993Nov3.170128.517@FreemanSoft.com> Sender: jfreeman@FreemanSoft.com Organization: FreemanSoft Inc. References: <2b8gv5$9p6@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Distribution: usa Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1993 17:01:28 GMT In article <2b8gv5$9p6@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> robert@amo.mit.edu(Robert Lutwak) writes: > First of all, let me remind everyone that all of NSI's OS competitors > provide DOS/WINDOWS compatibility out of the box, and I agree that > NeXT is guilty of false advertising here. > > That said, I'd like to address: > > In article <stivCFvx3x.28A@netcom.com> stiv@netcom.com (Stiv D. Ostenberg) > writes: > Considering that WE have to pay royalties back to Microsoft on > > the licensed copies of DOS and Windows that ship with SoftPC (how much > > would you pay for those in a store?) I think that we are being pretty > > fair about pricing. > By the way, why didn't y'all work out a deal with NeXT in the > first place so that they wouldn't be lying about DOS/WINDOWS > support? I imagine that if you had worked with NeXT on this one you > could have a done a superior job. I think you are really attacking the wrong company in your reply. They are providing a great value for the money. The whole DOS/Windows compatability issue belongs in NeXT's hands. They are the ones doing the advertising, and they are the ones that need that functionallity to continue to exist. Its hard to believe they couldn't have come up with a better plan than this piece of garbage. I cut out one of your most interesting point: Everyone already gets a copy of DOS and Windows with their machine. Why should they have to pay for another copy with SoftPC. Under Motorola hardware, this made sense, but under Intel hadware it doesn't. (Once again I think this is an issue for NeXT to resolve, on their software platform) -- Joe Freeman FreemanSoft Inc. A NEXTSTEP software and consulting services company. Electronic Mail: Joe@FreemanSoft.com (NeXT Mail) Voice: 919.783.7033
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: stiv@netcom.com (Stiv D. Ostenberg) Subject: Re: SoftPC for NeXT Intel Message-ID: <stivCFxEy8.L9A@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) References: <stivCFvx3x.28A@netcom.com> <2b8gv5$9p6@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1993 17:22:55 GMT robert@amo.mit.edu(Robert Lutwak) writes: >First of all, let me remind everyone that all of NSI's OS competitors >provide DOS/WINDOWS compatibility out of the box, and I agree that >NeXT is guilty of false advertising here. >That said, I'd like to address: >In article <stivCFvx3x.28A@netcom.com> stiv@netcom.com (Stiv D. Ostenberg) >writes: >Considering that WE have to pay royalties back to Microsoft on >> the licensed copies of DOS and Windows that ship with SoftPC (how much >> would you pay for those in a store?) I think that we are being pretty >> fair about pricing. >In a store, we might pay $150 for DOS/Windows. Supposing y'all pay >Microsoft $100 for the same package, you ought to be able to sell >SoftPC for $150 to all of us who got DOS/Windows licenses with our >Intel Boxes. I imagine this amounts to at least 75% of us. > I, for one, have so many unused, legal copies of DOS/WIN >lying around that I don't even waste diskette boxes on them anymore. > How about it Insignia? > By the way, why didn't y'all work out a deal with NeXT in the >first place so that they wouldn't be lying about DOS/WINDOWS >support? I imagine that if you had worked with NeXT on this one you >could have a done a superior job. I believe one reason we have bundled the DOS/Windows under SoftPC is because by doing so WE control the initial setup of the Software, and we can include our own drivers pre-installed for better performance. We did a release on the Sun that did not have Windows pre-installed, and the sheer volume of calls we got in support from people trying to configure Windows was staggering. This way it is plug-n-play out of the box and we avoid having to go the the hassle of setting up DOS/Windows configurations for people who may not be familiar with them. While most users do know what they are doing, the amount of time and money we spend supporting a user who does not know DOS/Windows and wants to save $100 does not make sense and negates any value of providing an unbundled version. Having a tested and tried working environment immediately at install I think will make most people happy, and makes supporting people a lot easier as we can always go back to the "pure" environment without trying to debug a users install. Make a deal with NeXT in first place...? You re talking to the wrong person. Being in Technical Support, I try to stay as far away from the Sales and Marketing issues as I can. I can't even tell you what NeXT is saying, but I have a pretty darn good idea why they would say it. If what you are saying is true (I am not saying it isn't) then we have a classic example of a marketing department giving a misconception of a product for publicity reasons. And a classic example of why I make it a point of personal philosophy not to get involved in this side of the market. Stiv -- Stiv Ostenberg stiv@netcom.netcom.com| Sable, Saltairwise, a Claighmore ---------------------------------------+ inverted Argent, a Rowan Branch Or Tech Support, Insignia Solutions | --<------ ------>-- ---------------------------------------+ Conner MacCiaran
From: giddings@sadie.chem.wisc.edu (Michael Giddings) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Music publishing software on NeXT? Date: 3 Nov 1993 20:21:04 GMT Organization: Division of Information Technology Distribution: world Message-ID: <2b93rg$2sd@news.doit.wisc.edu> Hi, This query is for a friend (but any responses can be sent to me): Is there any software for NeXTSTEP that allows manipulation of musical symbols on a staff, for publishing one's own music? If there is enough information, I will summarize to the group. Thanks, Michael Giddings UW Madison Chemistry
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: cew@quark.Stanford.EDU (Carlin E. Wiegner) Subject: Re: Music publishing software on NeXT? Message-ID: <1993Nov3.213842.5785@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: Stanford University References: <2b93rg$2sd@news.doit.wisc.edu> Date: Wed, 3 Nov 93 21:38:42 GMT In article <2b93rg$2sd@news.doit.wisc.edu> giddings@sadie.chem.wisc.edu (Michael Giddings) writes: > Hi, > This query is for a friend (but any responses can be sent to me): > > Is there any software for NeXTSTEP that allows manipulation of musical symbols > on a staff, for publishing one's own music? > > If there is enough information, I will summarize to the group. > > Thanks, > Michael Giddings > UW Madison Chemistry Here's the deal.... the music ftp server is @ princeton.edu the mailing list for more information is: nextmusic@wri.com and here are two products I've found: In comp.sys.next.software article <2b93rg$2sd@news.doit.wisc.edu> you wrote: > Hi, > This query is for a friend (but any responses can be sent to me): > > Is there any software for NeXTSTEP that allows manipulation of musical symbols > on a staff, for publishing one's own music? > > If there is enough information, I will summarize to the group. > > Thanks, > Michael Giddings > UW Madison Chemistry Here's some packages: (see what fits).... PINNACLE SEQUENCE Pinnacle Research, Inc. Application integrating MIDI sequencing and DSP music synthesis Price: $295 Availability: Motorola now, Intel call 602-529-1135 602-299-9133 fax info@pri.com RHYTHM KING Ciusa, Inc. Rhythm pattern creator and sample sound player with track control Price: $99 Availability: Motorola now, Intel Sept. 1993 612-822-1604 612-922-4426 fax info@ciusa.com you may also want to check comp.sys.next.software newsgroup CW
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jq@phcs.com (Jim Quick) Subject: Re: RCS in a heterogeneous environment Message-ID: <CFxq11.3K@phcs.com> Keywords: RCS, heterogeneous Organization: Private Healthcare Systems, Inc References: <CFvn2F.J6M@ucdavis.edu> Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1993 21:22:13 GMT In article <CFvn2F.J6M@ucdavis.edu> heberlei@cs.ucdavis.edu writes: >Summary: Two different RCS packages on Suns are using timestamps > which do not match local time, by my NeXT uses timestamps > with local time. The result, we cannot share a common RCS > directory. > Get your hands on the newest release of rcs. Starting in v 5.6 GMT times are supported. The README int 5.6 states: RCS can now be used by development groups that span timezone boundaries. All times are now displayed in GMT, and GMT is the default timezone. To use local time with co -d, append ` LT' to the time. When interchanging RCS files with sites running older versions of RCS, time stamp discrepancies may prevent checkins; to work around this, use `ci -d' with a time slightly in the future. -- ___ ___ mail: uunet!phcs!jq PHCS, Inc. Advanced Technology Group / / / or jq@phcs.com It's spelled "Luxury Yacht", but it's \_/ (_\/ Voice: (617) 861-5579 pronounced "Throat-Warbler Mangrove". ) NeXTMail O.K.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: antoine@arrakis.osd.ulaval.ca (Antoine Gautier) Subject: Taylor.app and TeX-created ps files Message-ID: <CFxr46.rB@athena.ulaval.ca> Sender: news@athena.ulaval.ca Organization: CTI, Universite Laval Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1993 21:45:41 GMT Did anyone out there manage to open the latter with the former (demo mode, basic NeXTSted 3.1 fonts installed)? [ I did not, keep getting an error message ] -- +-------------------------------------------------------+ | Antoine Gautier | | Departement OSD, FSA | | Universite Laval, Quebec, PQ | +-------------------------------------------------------+ Disclaimer: I wish my employer had opinions... :+)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: cowboy@omega.csuohio.edu (Joe Rosenfeld) Subject: Re: SoftPC for NeXT Intel Message-ID: <1993Nov3.235205.15283@news.csuohio.edu> Sender: news@news.csuohio.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Cleveland State University References: <stivCFvx3x.28A@netcom.com> <2b8gv5$9p6@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> <stivCFxEy8.L9A@netcom.com> Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1993 23:52:05 GMT I do not blame or even feel any anger whatsoever with Insignia. The news about Netware and TCP/IP support is really welcome, indeed, and I expect to have to pay something for such software. $250.00 seems reasonable to me, and I just wanted to go on the record as saying thanks for putting in the TCP/IP and NetWare support. These features were the most important to me in the end. Nice going! Tell us more about these features--is the TCP/IP support packet driver support? I hope so. Regards- Cowboy -- | Joe Rosenfeld j.rosenfeld@csuohio.edu | Automation Librarian (216) 687-6881 [FAX] | CSU Law Library trans.csuohio.edu [ANON FTP] | NeXTMail and MIME ok
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer From: atownley@cs.umr.edu (Andrew S. Townley) Subject: NeXTSTEP <-> IBM DB2 connectivity? Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1993 23:22:50 GMT Organization: University of Missouri-Rolla, Missouri's Technological University Sender: cnews@umr.edu (UMR Usenet News Administration) Message-ID: <1993Nov3.232250.9253@umr.edu> Hopefully, someone out there will be able to help me, or at least point me in the right direction. I'm evaluating the feasibility of using NeXTSTEP platforms for an alternative client to an IBM mainframe running DB2. I really don't know the best place to start, but I figured that my best bet would be to post here. I know there are fronts for Sybase, Oracl e, etc, but the SQL that this application will use will be DB2 on an IBM Mainframe. One of the things I would like to know is if there are any commercial products available which would meet this need. Secondly, if there are no commercial packages, or the packages are prohibitively expensive, how difficult it would be to write something which would communicate with the mainframe system. If anyone has any information which would be applicable to this project, please send the information via e-mail. If there is enough response, or interest, I'll post a summary. Ideally, I would like to be able to make my proposal sometime mid to late December. Any help would be wonderful. Thank you, Andrew -- Andrew S. Townley Voice: 314-364-7244 1705 Pine Street FAX: 314-364-8471 Rolla, MO 65401 email: atownley@cs.umr.edu
From: adams@bright.uoregon.edu (Jeff Adams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: MIDI connections Date: 3 Nov 1993 23:49:03 GMT Organization: Dept. of Mathematics, University of Oregon, Eugene OR 97403-1222 Distribution: world Message-ID: <2b9g1f$j95@pith.uoregon.edu> I want to connect my synth to my NeXT. Can anyone point me in the right direction where I can find out what cables/connectors I will need? My friend has loaned me some MIDI cables, and a box she used with a MAC, but I don't have any way of plugging this into my cube, and I don't know if the same box should work or not. Any help appreciated. Jeff -- __________________________________________________________________________ Jeff Adams, Grad Student adams@euclid.uoregon.edu Department of Mathematics University of Oregon (Eugene)
From: mbehrens@cs.utexas.edu (Mikael Behrens) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Object linking problem Date: 3 Nov 1993 23:58:00 GMT Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas Distribution: world Message-ID: <2b9gi8$9b2@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> References: <1993Nov3.160443.812@altsys.com> Lorin Rivers III writes | | The easiest way to accomplish this is to: | | Create the object you want to be the linker in the app. | Save. | Copy the object to be linked. | Open the the target doc. | Go to the edit menu. | Execute paste and link. | | There you are. | Thanks, but I already knew this. What I'm asking is, what is the Edit->Link->Publish Selection... menu option for? According to the user manual, it creates an .objlink file which you can drag into documents to create links WITHOUT having to copy the object from another application. But dragging the link file into a document doesn't display the image it represents. It displays the .objlink icon. Mikael -- Mikael Behrens mbehrens@cs.utexas.edu (NeXTMail OK) Computer Science student University of Texas at Austin "Attack ships on fire, off the shoulder of Orion..."
From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: SoftPC for NeXT Intel Date: 3 Nov 93 23:58:08 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <jeffo.752371088@uiuc.edu> References: <stivCFvx3x.28A@netcom.com> <2b8gv5$9p6@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> <stivCFxEy8.L9A@netcom.com> On any Intel box that runs NS, how much slower is SoftPC's DOS or Windows than simply running it native? -- J.B. Nicholson-Owens (*NO* NeXTmail please)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: marketing@nextsrv1.andi.org (Marketing Director) Subject: Re: SoftPC for NeXT Intel Message-ID: <CFx6oM.MnI@nextsrv1.andi.org> Keywords: NEXT,ANDI,NEXTSTEP,SoftPC Sender: usenet@nextsrv1.andi.org (usenet) Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International References: <stivCFvx3x.28A@netcom.com> Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1993 14:24:21 GMT In article <stivCFvx3x.28A@netcom.com> stiv@netcom.com (Stiv D. Ostenberg) writes: > would you pay for those in a store?) I think that we are being pretty fair about pricing. Considering we have never offered SoftPC at these prices (it runs twice that on other platforms) I don't think you have fair cause for complaint. > Stiv > -- > Stiv Ostenberg ---------------------------------------+ Tech Support, Insignia Solutions ---------------------------------------+ I would have to agree with Stiv. You would have to pay almost double for SoftPC on other platforms. Based upon our experiences at two PC Expos and Unix Expo, people interested in NeXTSTEP always ask about running their Windows Apps. I do have to agree with Brian Dear of Coconut that even a small discount for "converting" from Soft PC on NeXT to Intel would go a long way in public relations which the entire community could use more of. --- Bill Strehl Executive Director ANDI - Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International reply to:marketing@nextsrv1.andi.org "Take the NeXTSTEP and Keep on Truckin'..."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: lmccullo@nyx.cs.du.edu (Michael McCulloch) Subject: SUBMISSION: Colorized Version of Solitaire Message-ID: <1993Nov4.090955.1483@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> of Denver for the Denver community. The University has neither control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users. Sender: usenet@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu (netnews admin account) Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept. Date: Thu, 4 Nov 93 09:09:55 GMT With Blake Stone's permission, I have released version 1.02 of his Solitaire application with a colorized cardset and playing surface. Performance is still a little slow on black HW, however, it plays great on a 66MHz local-bus PC. The files are probably still in the submissions directories of the following sites: cs.orst.edu nova.cc.purdue.edu ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de The files are: Solitaire-1.02-Source.tar.gz (Modified PB directory) Solitaire-1.02-MAB.tar.gz (m68k and i486 binary) Solitaire-1.02-README Enjoy! -- Michael McCulloch michael@hsv.tybrin.com (NextMail Accepted!) Huntsville, Alabama
From: robert@amo.mit.edu(Robert Lutwak) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: SoftPC for NeXT Intel Date: 4 Nov 1993 13:32:08 GMT Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology Message-ID: <2bb08o$34e@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> References: <stivCFxEy8.L9A@netcom.com> In article <stivCFxEy8.L9A@netcom.com> stiv@netcom.com (Stiv D. Ostenberg) writes: > robert@amo.mit.edu(Robert Lutwak) writes: > >In a store, we might pay $150 for DOS/Windows. Supposing y'all pay > >Microsoft $100 for the same package, you ought to be able to sell > >SoftPC for $150 to all of us who got DOS/Windows licenses with our > >Intel Boxes. I imagine this amounts to at least 75% of us. > > I, for one, have so many unused, legal copies of DOS/WIN > >lying around that I don't even waste diskette boxes on them anymore. > I believe one reason we have bundled the DOS/Windows under SoftPC is > because by doing so WE control the initial setup of the Software I agree that y'all at Insignia do us a great service by preconfiguring the DOS/Windows setup. After all the contortions we go through to get get NSI up and running it'll be a pleasure to NOT have to go back and learn the ins and outs of Windows as well. In fact, this is a service that I'll gladly pay for (what's that, maybe $25 of our $250?). Why, though, does this mean that we have to shell out another $100, through you, to MicroSoft? Why can't I just send you $150 and some proof of purchase for my bundled DOS/Windows? Why do I have to shell out twice for an OS that I'm not even booting? Semi-personal to Stiv Ostenberg: Please don't take any of this personally, I greatly appreciate your presence on the net, and expect it to be beneficial to all once 3.2 ships. I understand that you are unconnected with any of these marketing decisions, but who knows, maybe the marketing guys never even thought of this? Robert -- Robert Lutwak robert@amo.mit.edu MIT Atomic Resonance and Spectroscopy Laboratory ---- NeXTmail always welcome ----
From: giddings@sadie.chem.wisc.edu (Michael Giddings) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Unsuccessful remote execution Date: 4 Nov 1993 16:34:52 GMT Organization: Division of Information Technology Distribution: world Message-ID: <2bbavc$rlu@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <2b9l7f$grd@hub.ucsb.edu> Keywords: dps incompatibility remote execution In article <2b9l7f$grd@hub.ucsb.edu> carlos@nexus.ece.ucsb.edu (Juan Carlos De Martin) writes: > > I am trying a remote application execution between a mono-NextStation 2.1 > (localhost) and a NextDimension 3.0 (remotehost). I followed the standard > steps, i.e. > - I made localhost a Public Window Server; > - I telneted remotehost; > - I typed in a terminal window "Application -NXHost localhost" > ... > --carlos > _____________________________________________________________________ > Juan Carlos De Martin carlos@nexus.ece.ucsb.edu > There is some incompatibility between Display Postscript on 2.1 and 3.x. I have tried this before and had the same problem. You MAY (I'm not sure) be able to display FROM the 2.1 machine TO the 3.x machine, but I'm sure it won't work the other way around because new DPS features were added. The only way I can think of to solve the problem is to upgrade the 2.1 machine to 3.x (or, to downgrade the 3.x machine to 2.1!). Maybe a DPS guru can pipe in here with some other ideas . . . Michael Giddings UW Madison Chemistry
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: lorinr@altsys.com (Lorin Rivers III) Subject: Re: Object linking problem Message-ID: <1993Nov4.165215.2565@altsys.com> Organization: Altsys Corporation, Richardson, TX References: <1993Nov3.160443.812@altsys.com> <2b9gi8$9b2@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1993 16:52:15 GMT In article <2b9gi8$9b2@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> mbehrens@cs.utexas.edu writes: >Lorin Rivers III writes >| >| The easiest way to accomplish this is to: >| >| Create the object you want to be the linker in the app. >| Save. >| Copy the object to be linked. >| Open the the target doc. >| Go to the edit menu. >| Execute paste and link. >| >| There you are. >| > >Thanks, but I already knew this. What I'm asking is, what is the >Edit->Link->Publish Selection... menu option for? According to the user >manual, it creates an .objlink file which you can drag into documents to >create links WITHOUT having to copy the object from another application. >But dragging the link file into a document doesn't display the image it >represents. It displays the .objlink icon. > >Mikael >-- >Mikael Behrens mbehrens@cs.utexas.edu (NeXTMail OK) >Computer Science student University of Texas at Austin >"Attack ships on fire, off the shoulder of Orion..." You are correct. I experienced the same results. Hmmmm. I tried Control-dragging a Draw.app file and I got a link, but again the Edit file showed the Draw icon, not the object. -- Lorin Rivers Lorin_Rivers@altsys.com NEXTSTEP Sales Manager 214.680.2060 269 W. Renner Parkway NeXT Mail Expected Richardson, Texas 75080 I said it, not my boss
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.software From: twilson@risc.uni-linz.ac.at (Todd Wilson) Subject: Active.mbox corruption? Swapfile explosion? Message-ID: <CFz62n.565@risc.uni-linz.ac.at> Sender: netnews@risc.uni-linz.ac.at (Netnews SW Account) Organization: RISC Linz Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1993 16:06:23 GMT It's happened to me twice, now, and I'd like to see if anyone knows about it. The problem is that somehow my Active.mbox becomes corrupted, and because of this Mail.app won't start up. It took some time to figure out that if I simply moved Mailboxes/* to, say, Mailboxes.old/*, then Mail.app _would_ start up and create Mailboxes/Active.mbox/* for me, and I could then open my various mailboxes in Mailboxes.old. All of these mailboxes would open fine, except for Active.mbox, which caused Mail.app to crash immediately whenever I tried to open it. The only thing that happened between today, when I had the problem, and yesterday, when I didn't, was that I had to reboot my machine after getting NO SPACE ON HARD DISK messages due to, apparently, a swapfile that had grown out of control. The reboot reset the swapfile, and after that there was no space problem, but then the Mail problem appeared. Both times this happened to me only Active.mbox was corrupted. Also, it is possible that this swapfile problem has something to do with Mathematica, since I seem to recall that these problems occured after I did some computations with Mathematica, which I have done only rarely. But I'm not sure about this at all. Ring any bells? Please mail me any responses, and I will post a summary. Thank you, --Todd Wilson
From: csmith@blackplague.gmu.edu (Christian Smith) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: X11R5 Date: 4 Nov 1993 17:39:59 GMT Organization: The Gnomes of Zurich (shhh!) Distribution: world Message-ID: <2bbepf$bat@news.intercon.com> I'm trying to install mit's X11R5 client software on my NextCube running 3.1 and am running into dificulties. Has anybody done the modifications necessary to get this up and running and could send them to me? Or is there a site with src code all ready to compile on the Next? Thanks for the info.. -- Christian Smith aka Blackplague PGP Public Key available by finger or request.
From: doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu (Douglas Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: X for NeXT Date: 4 Nov 1993 17:24:53 GMT Organization: University of California, Santa Barbara Distribution: world Message-ID: <2bbdt5$fq8@hub.ucsb.edu> References: <2b6mq0INN6v9@gambier.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca> In article <2b6mq0INN6v9@gambier.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca> a5g192@rick.cs.ubc.ca (Wei-Yuen Tan) writes: ] ] Does anyone out there know of something that allows me to run X off a remote ] server? I'm currently TA'ing in a class full of NeXT machines running NeXTStep ] 2.0, and would like to run X apps off my own account somewhere else in the ] building. It's highly unlikely that my boss would consider installing the full ] X11R5 stuff onto the NeXT server, and I only have a 6 megabyte disc quota to ] work with. I want to be able to telnet into my account and start up remote ] X-apps on the remote server (which happens to be a HP-UX machine). ] ] Anyone have any bright ideas? You *have* to install the X server binary and the X11/lib stuff in order to run X on any machine. You can run everything else (xterm, tvtwm, etc) remotely, though. You should be able to use the 'fs' font server on another machine to supply fonts to the NeXT, and that will cut down further on the space required. Six megs aint much to work with, but you might be able to squeeze by...of course you will swap *way* more that 6 megs! :-) -- Douglas Scott | Senior Development Engineer Tel: (805) 893-8352 | Center for Computer Music Research and Composition Internet (NeXTMail ok): | Music Department <doug@ccmrc.ucsb.edu> | University of California, Santa Barbara
From: powell@tropic.aoml.erl.gov (Mark Powell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: SoftPC for Motorola NEXTSTEP at Non-dog speeds? Date: 4 Nov 1993 15:49:16 GMT Organization: U.S. Department of Commerce, NOAA/AOML Message-ID: <2bb89s$kld@wave.aoml.erl.gov> Will a new version of SoftPC for Motorola NEXTSTEP blackboxes be available that runs at decent (equivalent to the Intel version) speeds? We have SoftPC Pro which has Windows and Dos 5.0 built in but it is extremely slow. I have only held on to it with the faith that Insignia was doing its best and would eventually have it running at near 486 speeds. Does anyone know if the NeXT version will be able to run at the same speeds as the Intel version and what the upgrade prices will be? -- Dr. Mark D. Powell Research Meteorologist, CCM (Swimmer, Windsurfer, user of NEXTSTEP) NOAA Hurricane Research Division (appropriate disclaimers apply) Miami, Fl 33149 Voice (305) 361-4403 Fax (305) 361-4402
From: hadden@cobber.cord.edu (Anonymous) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Experiences w/ 3Dmodelling SW wanted (SolidThinking....etc) Date: 4 Nov 1993 14:33:29 -0600 Organization: Concordia College, Moorhead Minnesota Distribution: na Message-ID: <2bboup$prl@cobber.cord.edu> I would really appreciate it if anyone who has acquired any 3d Modelling software for NS could email or post their experiences. Especially, I would like to know about your experiences with SolidThinking Modeller and SolidThinking Animator. Other packages also: Intuitiv'3d 3D Reality. I am ready to purchase some software for my intel machine and any info that may be a good basis for my purchase decisions would be grately appreciated. Thanks a million. doroin@cobber.cord.edu doroin@wonka.cord.edu (NeXTmail)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (Michael Friendly) Subject: crontab.local - why won't it work? Message-ID: <CFzLIw.4q4@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca> Sender: news@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca (USENET News System) Organization: York University Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1993 21:40:08 GMT I'm wondering if there is some trick to get cron to work with entries in the file crontab.local -- I have several tasks I'd like performed automatically, but nothing seems to be happening based on the entries in my crontab.local. (I used crontab.local to keep my mods separate from system stuff.) Here are the directory entries: hotspur:gout [115] % ls -l /etc/cron* -rw-r--r-- 1 root 236 Dec 9 1991 /etc/crontab -rw-r--r-- 1 root 96 Oct 28 14:45 /etc/crontab.local And here's the crontab.local file: 30 2 * * * root /bin/csh /usr/lib/find/updatedb 0 * * * * root /bin/sh /usr/adm/hours/hourly Can anyone spot what is wrong? Pls reply direct, to me at hotspur. -- Michael Friendly Internet: friendly@vm1.yorku.ca Psychology Department NeXTmail: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca York University 4700 Keele Street Toronto, ONT M3J 1P3 CANADA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: gerben@rna.indiv.nluug.nl Subject: Re: splitting directories for mailing Message-ID: <1993Nov4.215437.676@rna.indiv.nluug.nl> Sender: gerben@rna.indiv.nluug.nl (Gerben Wierda) Organization: G.R.O.S.S. References: <CFvJnG.EFK@tdocad.sps.mot.com> Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1993 21:54:37 GMT In article <CFvJnG.EFK@tdocad.sps.mot.com> mshaler@tdocad.sps.mot.com (Michael Shaler) writes: > Joe Freeman writes > I sometimes > have the need to mail a large directory to some offsite user. > > [munch] > > Xanthus has an app called SplitReceiver/SplitBuilder which puts a nice front end on the chunky stuff...%^) > > It works quite well for exactly this purpose. > Or you can instal Zend.app on both sides (available from sun4nl.nluug.nl) and drag/drop your directory, large file or whatever. -- Gerben Wierda [NeRD:7539] gerben@rna.indiv.nluug.nl "If you don't know where you are going, any road will take you there." From the Talmud(?), rephrased in Lewis Carroll, "Alice in Wonderland".
From: giddings@whitewater.chem.wisc.edu (Michael Giddings) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Painless Zmodem/Ymodem/Xmodem on NeXTSTEP? Date: 4 Nov 1993 23:02:14 GMT Organization: Division of Information Technology Distribution: world Message-ID: <2bc1lm$6dh@news.doit.wisc.edu> Hi, I was trying to download some stuff from a bulletin board that supports only YModem, XModem, and Zmodem protocols. I got the sz/rz stuff, but I can't figure out a reasonable way to first navigate through all the menus on the bulletin board (using kermit), then to escape from kermit and to get rz to connect to the other machine to download (I don't think it was meant to work this way). Are there any easy solutions for downloading stuff using Z, Y, or X modem on NeXTSTEP? Thanks, -- Michael Giddings | DNA sequencing technologies giddings@whitewater.chem.wisc.edu | Artificial Intelligence giddings@cs.wisc.edu | Sciences NeXT User Group founder |---------\-----------/|\------------/---------|
From: mbehrens@cs.utexas.edu (Mikael Behrens) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Object linking problem... resovled Date: 5 Nov 1993 00:23:07 GMT Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas Distribution: world Message-ID: <2bc6db$i45@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> References: <2b9gi8$9b2@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> Mikael Behrens writes | Lorin Rivers III writes | | | | The easiest way to accomplish this is to: | | | | Create the object you want to be the linker in the app. | | Save. | | Copy the object to be linked. | | Open the the target doc. | | Go to the edit menu. | | Execute paste and link. | | | | There you are. | | | | Thanks, but I already knew this. What I'm asking is, what is the | Edit->Link->Publish Selection... menu option for? According to the user | manual, it creates an .objlink file which you can drag into documents to | create links WITHOUT having to copy the object from another application. | But dragging the link file into a document doesn't display the image it | represents. It displays the .objlink icon. | | Mikael It was pointed out to me that this does not work because Edit doesn't support that behavior. If you drag an objlink file into a DRAW document, the image that the file is linked to shows up just like the user manual describes. -- Mikael Behrens mbehrens@cs.utexas.edu (NeXTMail OK) Computer Science student University of Texas at Austin "Attack ships on fire, off the shoulder of Orion..."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: stiv@netcom.com (Stiv D. Ostenberg) Subject: Re: SoftPC for NeXT Intel Message-ID: <stivCFzr6n.7py@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) References: <stivCFvx3x.28A@netcom.com> <2b8gv5$9p6@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> <stivCFxEy8.L9A@netcom.com> <jeffo.752371088@uiuc.edu> Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1993 23:42:23 GMT jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) writes: >On any Intel box that runs NS, how much slower is SoftPC's DOS or >Windows than simply running it native? >-- I refuse to provide an "official" answer because I got my figures from marketing. I would guess a machine would run at 1/2 native speed (a 486 50 runs like a 486-25). Hope that helps. BTW, since the demo versionis included with NeXTStep 3.2, give it a try and let me know what YOUR impression of the speed is. Stiv -- Stiv Ostenberg stiv@netcom.netcom.com| Sable, Saltairwise, a Claighmore ---------------------------------------+ inverted Argent, a Rowan Branch Or Tech Support, Insignia Solutions | --<------ ------>-- ---------------------------------------+ Conner MacCiaran
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: sela@iastate.edu (Brian J. Morrison) Subject: mpg viewer for NeXTSTEP Message-ID: <CFzu4K.9oF@news.iastate.edu> Sender: news@news.iastate.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1993 00:45:56 GMT I can't believe it, but I've been looking for over a week now and still have not found a mpg viewer for NeXTSTEP. Does it not exist? -- **********************IOWA***STATE***UNIVERSITY********************** * Brian Morrison sela@iastate.edu (NeXT Mail welcome!) * * -------------------------------------------------------------- * * He who throws mud loses ground. * *********************************************************************
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: stiv@netcom.com (Stiv D. Ostenberg) Subject: Re: SoftPC for NeXT Intel Message-ID: <stivCFzs5q.9Mr@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) References: <stivCFxEy8.L9A@netcom.com> <2bb08o$34e@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1993 00:03:25 GMT robert@amo.mit.edu(Robert Lutwak) writes: >In article <stivCFxEy8.L9A@netcom.com> stiv@netcom.com (Stiv D. Ostenberg) >writes: >> robert@amo.mit.edu(Robert Lutwak) writes: >> >In a store, we might pay $150 for DOS/Windows. Supposing y'all pay >> >Microsoft $100 for the same package, you ought to be able to sell >> >SoftPC for $150 to all of us who got DOS/Windows licenses with our >> >Intel Boxes. I imagine this amounts to at least 75% of us. >> > I, for one, have so many unused, legal copies of DOS/WIN >> >lying around that I don't even waste diskette boxes on them anymore. >> I believe one reason we have bundled the DOS/Windows under SoftPC is >> because by doing so WE control the initial setup of the Software >I agree that y'all at Insignia do us a great service by preconfiguring >the DOS/Windows setup. After all the contortions we go through to get >get NSI up and running it'll be a pleasure to NOT have to go back and >learn the ins and outs of Windows as well. In fact, this is a service >that I'll gladly pay for (what's that, maybe $25 of our $250?). >Why, though, does this mean that we have to shell out another $100, >through you, to MicroSoft? Why can't I just send you $150 and some >proof of purchase for my bundled DOS/Windows? >Why do I have to shell out twice for an OS that I'm not even booting? I think it was a decision based on the hassels involved in getting proof of purchase on the Microsoft OS. We would have to deal with people who lost their proof-of-purchase, and want to try to send us photocopies of disks or such. I would guess administrative overhead and the amount of paperwork involved had a big influence on this decision. Also, having never seen the agreement we made with Microsoft to get our hands on the source code for DOS and Windows there may be a contractual obligation to Microsoft that requires us to do this. It may not even be our choice........ Please bear in mind that this is pure speculation on my part, I neither know nor care to ask marketing the reasons for their decisions lest I become one of them. Stiv P.S. Also allow me to state that my presence on this board is not as an official Insignia representative, I am here off a personal account on the Internet and I do this in my spare time because I enjoy doing so. I am happy to answer any questions I can, but I am not responsible for decisions made by marketing or by NeXT. If your gripe lies with one of these parties please take it up with them. P.P.S. I plan to stay around this group even if I keep getting these flames. (Such as appeared in my mail). In the future I will either ignore or send a brief disclaimer to these people, so don't worry about my being driven off. -- Stiv Ostenberg stiv@netcom.netcom.com| Sable, Saltairwise, a Claighmore ---------------------------------------+ inverted Argent, a Rowan Branch Or Tech Support, Insignia Solutions | --<------ ------>-- ---------------------------------------+ Conner MacCiaran
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: stiv@netcom.com (Stiv D. Ostenberg) Subject: Re: SoftPC for Motorola NEXTSTEP at Non-dog speeds? Message-ID: <stivCFztMy.CpG@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) References: <2bb89s$kld@wave.aoml.erl.gov> Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1993 00:35:21 GMT powell@tropic.aoml.erl.gov (Mark Powell) writes: >Will a new version of SoftPC for Motorola NEXTSTEP blackboxes be available >that runs at decent (equivalent to the Intel version) speeds? We have >SoftPC Pro which has Windows and Dos 5.0 built in but it is extremely >slow. I have only held on to it with the faith that Insignia was doing >its best and would eventually have it running at near 486 speeds. Does >anyone know if the NeXT version will be able to run at the same speeds as >the Intel version and what the upgrade prices will be? Before I answer this question, allow me to say that I will be trying to give you straight answers here, whether you like them or not. If my answers sound a little 'harsh' it is because they are not padded with marketing rhetoric. Mark I am afraid I do not have good news for you. There will not be a newer release of SoftPC for the NeXT black box. (Whoa! Hold it! Direct complaints to marketing, not me!). As to the existing speed of the emulation, if there is any help for you on the current version you will find it in the fax document I put together (dial (800) 876-3872 and request document 404). As to the speed of the new release you were hoping for, even if we did come out with it, I would not expect it to have anything like the speed of the Intel version. Logically, we have to emulate a CPU on the NeXT, which is going to be a lot slower than the real thing on the Intel platform which we can access directly. Without knowing which NeXT hardware you are running, I cannot guess how fast you could/should be running, though memory is usually the big performance assassin. The bottom line is that you cannot expect SoftPC to run as fast as a 486-33 when you have a NeXT machine with a 68030-25. There just is not the horsepower there to go that fast, and it has to keep running Unix while it is doing so. Machines that have the horsepower to handle Unix and an emulation at the same time can approach these speeds, but many of the old NeXTs just aren't that fast. Stiv -- Stiv Ostenberg stiv@netcom.netcom.com| Sable, Saltairwise, a Claighmore ---------------------------------------+ inverted Argent, a Rowan Branch Or Tech Support, Insignia Solutions | --<------ ------>-- ---------------------------------------+ Conner MacCiaran
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu Subject: SoftPC as separate package? Message-ID: <1993Nov4.212537.1@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu> Sender: news@dmi.stevens-tech.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Stevens Institute Of Technology Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1993 02:25:37 GMT I called Insignia inquiring about SoftPC. I have the NSi Eval Kit and wanted to see how SoftPC performs. However, I was told that it will only be shipping with NS 3.2 and will not be sold as a separate package. Why is this? I do understand that most people will probably upgrade, but unfortunately I will not be doing so in the immediate future. Will SoftPC ever be sold as a separate package, and if so will it work with 3.1? Scott Davenport sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu (no NeXTMail to date)
From: spb@news.uoregon.edu (Steven Berry) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: mpg viewer for NeXTSTEP Date: 5 Nov 1993 03:28:37 GMT Organization: University of Oregon Message-ID: <2bch95$aat@pith.uoregon.edu> References: <CFzu4K.9oF@news.iastate.edu> Brian J. Morrison (sela@iastate.edu) wrote: : I can't believe it, but I've been looking for over a week now and still : have not found a mpg viewer for NeXTSTEP. Try cs.orst.edu! Spiffo Stevo
From: rcfa@andi.org (Ronald C.F. Antony) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: SoftPC for NeXT Intel Date: 5 Nov 1993 06:42:10 GMT Organization: IDS World Network Internet Access Service, (401) 884-9002 GUEST Distribution: world Message-ID: <2bcsk2$423@paperboy.ids.net> References: <2b8gv5$9p6@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> In article <2b8gv5$9p6@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> robert@amo.mit.edu(Robert Lutwak) writes: > First of all, let me remind everyone that all of NSI's OS competitors > provide DOS/WINDOWS compatibility out of the box, and I agree that > NeXT is guilty of false advertising here. Well. What was the exact wording? SUPPORT for DOS/Windows? In that case NeXT's advertising might be misleading, but not false. From what I understand NeXT put specific features into NeXTSTEP to allow Insignia to write a product that does what it does: emulate a DOS/Windows machine at almost native speed without CPU emulation. That included special hooks in the window server etc. from what I have heard as rumors. In that sense there is SUPPORT for DOS/ Windows compatibility, while there is no COMPATIBILITY per ser included, that needs an additional $250.- for SoftPC/Windows. > In article <stivCFvx3x.28A@netcom.com> stiv@netcom.com (Stiv D. Ostenberg) > writes: > > Considering that WE have to pay royalties back to Microsoft on > > the licensed copies of DOS and Windows that ship with SoftPC (how much > > would you pay for those in a store?) I think that we are being pretty > > fair about pricing. > > In a store, we might pay $150 for DOS/Windows. Supposing y'all pay > Microsoft $100 for the same package, you ought to be able to sell > SoftPC for $150 to all of us who got DOS/Windows licenses with our > Intel Boxes. I imagine this amounts to at least 75% of us. > I, for one, have so many unused, legal copies of DOS/WIN > lying around that I don't even waste diskette boxes on them anymore. > How about it Insignia? You raise a very interesting issue here: all PC hardware manufacturers are these days FORCED BY UNFAIR TRADE PRACTICE of Microsoft to buy a MS-DOS license for every single machine shipped. Almost all of them, these days also ship Windows for free. I see this as yet another attempt of Microsoft to attack fair trade laws. Not even force they all PC users and manufacturers to pay for MS-DOS regardless of whether they use it or not, it now seems that they even force some manufacturers and users to pay TWICE. Why the hell should Insignia pay for a MESS-DOS and WINDOZE license when all the NeXTSTEP/Intel users already paid for it when they bought their hardware? And since it is pretty hard to run SoftPC/Windows for Intel on NeXT hardware or PA-RISC or ... it is fairly safe to assume that everybody already has a license. (Or maybe they made a pirate copy of a REAL PC? Now that would be a feat!) I think Insignia should renegotiate that contract with Microsoft and if and when successful, lower their price. Otherwise we need some sue-happy lawer who finally kicks Microsofts behind. -- Ronald ============================================================================== "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man." G.B. Shaw ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ rcfa@cubiculum.com rcfa@NeXT-BUG.org rcfa@ANDI.org rcfa@sleepy.cis.brown.edu ll pay > Microsoft $100 for the same package, you ought to be able to sell > SoftPC for $150 to all of us who got DOS/Windows licenses with our > Intel Boxes. I imagine this amounts to at least 75% of us. > I, for one, have so many unused, legal copies of DOS/WIN > lying around that I don't even waste diskette boxes on them anymore. > How about it Insignia? You raise a very interesting issue here: all PC hardware manufacturers are these days FORCED BY UNFAIR TRADE PRACTICE of Microsoft to buy a MS-DOS license for every single machine shipped. Almost all of them, these days also ship Windows for free. I see this as yet another attempt of Microsoft to attack fair trade laws. Not even force they all PC users and manufacturers to pay for MS-DOS regardless of whether they use it or not, it now seems that they even force some manufacturers and users to pay TWICE. Why the hell should Insignia pay for a MESS-DOS and WINDOZE license when all the NeXTSTEP/Intel users already paid for it when they bought their hardware? And since it is pretty hard to run SoftPC/Windows for Intel on NeXT hardware or PA-RISC or ... it is fairly safe to assume that everybody already has a license. (Or ma
From: rcfa@andi.org (Ronald C.F. Antony) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: SoftPC for NeXT Intel Date: 5 Nov 1993 06:51:25 GMT Organization: IDS World Network Internet Access Service, (401) 884-9002 GUEST Distribution: world Message-ID: <2bct5d$42p@paperboy.ids.net> References: <1993Nov3.235205.15283@news.csuohio.edu> Keywords: security hole and stupid joke In article <1993Nov3.235205.15283@news.csuohio.edu> cowboy@omega.csuohio.edu (Joe Rosenfeld) writes: > I do not blame or even feel any anger whatsoever with Insignia. The > news about Netware and TCP/IP support is really welcome, indeed [...] > and I just wanted to go on the record as saying > thanks for putting in the TCP/IP and NetWare support. These features > were the most important to me in the end. Nice going! Now those of us with small networks can finally simulate how it is to administer a big PC network. Just run multiple instances of SoftPC, and put each PC on the net :-) Couldn't resist making that stupid comment... (Don't get me wrong: it is a great feature!) Besides that: does it open up the same security problems as a real PC, i.e. can I buy some NetSniffing software and run it on my SoftPC and then look at all the passwords that fly by or is there a filter involved that pretends that there are no packets on the net except those that are addressed to the pseudo-PC's IP address? -- Ronald ============================================================================== "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man." G.B. Shaw ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ rcfa@cubiculum.com rcfa@NeXT-BUG.org rcfa@ANDI.org rcfa@sleepy.cis.brown.edu , have so many unused, legal copies of DOS/WIN > lying around that I don't even waste diskette boxes on them anymore. > How about it Insignia? You raise a very interesting issue here: all PC hardware manufacturers are these days FORCED BY UNFAIR TRADE PRACTICE of Microsoft to buy a MS-DOS license for every single machine shipped. Almost all of them, these days also ship Windows for free. I see this as yet another attempt of Microsoft to attack fair trade laws. Not even force they all PC users and manufacturers to pay for MS-DOS regardless of whether they use it or not, it now seems that they even force some manufacturers and users to pay TWICE. Why the hell should Insignia pay for a MESS-DOS and WINDOZE license when all the NeXTSTEP/Intel users already paid for it when they bought their hardware? And since it is pretty hard to run SoftPC/Windows for Intel ple instances of SoftPC, and put each PC on the net :-) Couldn't resist making that stupid comment... (Don't get me wrong: it is a great feature!) Besides that: does it open up the same security problems as a real PC, i.e. can I buy some NetSniffing software and run it on my SoftPC and then look at all the passwords that fly by or is there a filter involved that pretends that there are no packets on the net except those that are addressed to the pseudo-PC's IP address? -- Ronald ============================================================================== "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man." G.B. Shaw ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ rcfa@cubiculum.com rcfa@NeXT-BUG.org rcfa@ANDI.org rcfa@sleepy.cis.brown.edu , have so many unused, legal copies of DOS/WIN > lying around that I don't even waste diskette boxes on them anymore. > How about it Insignia? You raise a very interesting issue here: all PC hardware manufacturers are these days FORCED BY UNFAIR TRADE PRACTICE of Microsoft to buy a MS-DOS license for every single machine shipped. Almost all of them, these days also ship Windows for free. I see this as yet another attempt of Microsoft to attack fair trade laws. Not even force they all PC users and manufacturers to pay for MS-DOS regardless of whether they use it or not, it now seems that they even force some manufacturers and users to pay TWICE. Why the hell should Insignia pay for a MESS-DOS and WINDOZE license when all the NeXTSTEP/Intel users already paid for it when they bought their hardware? And since it is pretty hard to run SoftPC/Windows for Intel on NeXT hardware or PA-RISC or ... it is fairly safe to assume that everybody already has a license. (Or ma
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: gerben@rna.indiv.nluug.nl Subject: WordPerfect 5.1- or 6.0-compatible for NS black/white? Message-ID: <1993Nov4.221001.919@rna.indiv.nluug.nl> Sender: gerben@rna.indiv.nluug.nl (Gerben Wierda) Organization: G.R.O.S.S. Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1993 22:10:01 GMT Does anybody know if a WP5.1 or maybe even WP6.1 compatible WP for NS will be available soon? -- Gerben Wierda [NeRD:7539] gerben@rna.indiv.nluug.nl "If you don't know where you are going, any road will take you there." From the Talmud(?), rephrased in Lewis Carroll, "Alice in Wonderland".
From: apsmith@carson.u.washington.edu (Arthur Smith) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: X on 486 NEXTSTEP Date: 5 Nov 1993 21:28:34 GMT Organization: University of Washington Distribution: world Message-ID: <2begi2$gnh@news.u.washington.edu> Summary: Where can I get it? Keywords: X, NS/IP I've been trying to locate sources of X software for a 486 running NextStep which we haven't actually put together yet. I know mouseX (Xfe.app) was recently made compatible with NS3.0 on black hardware - has anybody tried running it (will it even compile?) on the Intel machines? Also, which of the vendors actually have running versions so far? And does anybody have experience with using them? Please e-mail to asmith@mammoth.chem.washington.edu and I'll post replies (if any). Arthur Smith
From: marca@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Marc Andreessen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.infosystems.www Subject: Re: version numbers on libwww Date: 5 Nov 93 16:34:48 Organization: Nat'l Center for Supercomputing Applications Distribution: world Message-ID: <MARCA.93Nov5163448@wintermute.ncsa.uiuc.edu> References: <2b5uid$e1@skates.gsfc.nasa.gov> <2b88ve$p6s@disuns2.epfl.ch> <Agqaw1C00hsBMsFqRS@cs.cmu.edu> In-reply-to: Michael.Witbrock@cs.cmu.edu's message of Fri, 5 Nov 1993 10:19:29 -0500 In article <Agqaw1C00hsBMsFqRS@cs.cmu.edu> Michael.Witbrock@cs.cmu.edu writes: Why is the libwww directory included in the xmosiac source distribution, when nothing in it is currently used, and similarly, why has the libwww-2.09a directory (which is used) been called 2.09a even though there are several thousand lines of context diffs between the one in pre-6 and pre-7. Couldn't it be allowed to be called 2.09b by now :-) 1/2 laziness/busyness, 1/2 I'm scared to death of CVS... Marc -- Marc Andreessen Software Development Group National Center for Supercomputing Applications marca@ncsa.uiuc.edu (MIME welcomed here)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: stiv@netcom.com (Stiv D. Ostenberg) Subject: Re: SoftPC as separate package? Message-ID: <stivCG1JsI.JAG@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) References: <1993Nov4.212537.1@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu> Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1993 22:57:52 GMT sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu writes: >Will SoftPC ever be sold as a separate package, and if so will it work with >3.1? As soon as the I find out I will pass it on. Needless to say, there are politics involved. (((Shudder))) Stiv -- Stiv Ostenberg stiv@netcom.netcom.com| Sable, Saltairwise, a Claighmore ---------------------------------------+ inverted Argent, a Rowan Branch Or Tech Support, Insignia Solutions | --<------ ------>-- ---------------------------------------+ Conner MacCiaran
From: pedja@cs.umd.edu (& Bogdanovich) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: SUBMISSION: SpewView BackSpace module available Date: 06 Nov 1993 12:37:45 GMT Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742 Distribution: world Message-ID: <PEDJA.93Nov6073745@midgard.cs.umd.edu> Spew BackSpace module uses Greg Smith's spew program to generate National Enquirer-like headlines, and displays the headlines by randomly picking the location, font, and color. SpewView is available from cs.orst.edu:/pub/next/submissions. BackSpace module written by Pedja Bogdanovich <pedja%luka@umiacs.umd.edu>. SpewView uses Greg Smith's spew program. Installation ============ 1. Uncompress the file SpewView.compressed from the Workspace. This will make a single directory SpewView/ with all the sources. 2. From a shell, cd SpewView, and type make to compile the module. 3. To install the module in ~/Apps/Backspace.app, type make install. To install it elsewhere, for example in /LocalLibrary/BackSpaceViews, type make install INSTALLDIR=/LocalLibrary/BackSpaceViews.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: swekla@ee.ualberta.ca (Brent Swekla) Subject: Re: convert .wav to .snd (vice-versa)? Message-ID: <swekla.752611403@ee.ualberta.ca> Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada References: <1993Nov5.161651.21313@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com> Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1993 18:43:23 GMT ssegur@next3.corp.mot.com (Shawn Segur) writes: >Any utility out there which will convert .voc and .wav files into .aub >or .snd (vice-versa)? >Thanks, >Shawn Yes. Try GISO which is a wrapper for the gnu sound conversion utility "sox" (SOund eXchange). The only place I have been able to find it so far is in the directory "/pub/next/2.0-release/source" on sonata.cc.purdue.edu. It just works! It's free!!! -- Brent Swekla "Never put off until tomorrow what you can do swekla@ee.ualberta.ca the day after tomorrow" - Mark Twain
From: matthewm@sgate.com (Mike Matthews) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: DFax_Class2_Fax_Modem ? Date: 6 Nov 1993 14:33:25 -0500 Organization: Collins International Services Company Message-ID: <2bgu65$e26@sgate.com> I just tried to fax something for the first time since my upgrade to NEXTSTEP 3.1. Seems I didn't notice that the file /usr/lib/NextPrinter/DFax_Class2_Fax_Modem was wiped out. Until now. Assuming this file ever existed, since it ain't on the original DFax disk. If anyone has it, could they please NeXTmail it to me? Thanks. [This is the error I get: Nov 6 14:09:38 tirk lpd[17550]: cannot execv /usr/lib/NextPrinter/DFax_Class2_Fax_Modem I tried linking DFax_... to Class2_Fax_Modem just for kicks, but that resulted in a panel telling me to reboot the computer.] ------ Mike Matthews, Mike_Matthews@sgate.com (NeXTmail accepted) ------ I have seen the future and it is just like the present, only longer. -- Kehlog Albran
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com Subject: Re: 3.2 in production on time? - bunch of posts from NeXT.com Message-ID: <1993Nov6.232610.1338@hot.com> Sender: robertl@hot.com Organization: Hot Technologies References: <2bes4a$hik@agate.berkeley.edu> Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1993 23:26:10 GMT Yes. See forwarded message below. Robert La Ferla Hot Technologies From: Eric_Bragg@NeXT.COM Date: Wed, 3 Nov 93 20:06:05 -0500 To: bcs-next@MIT.EDU Subject: 3.2 Ships! Begin forwarded message: From: Paul_Hegarty (Paul Hegarty) Date: Wed, 3 Nov 93 09:15:12 -0800 To: next Subject: 3.2 Ships! The 3.2 Cross-Functional Team has just signed off on the shipment of 3.2. First shipments is scheduled to go out on Friday. Congratulations to all involved. This is the second release in a row (and only the second in NeXT's history) which was shipped on schedule! Paul Hegarty and Eric Chu In article <2bes4a$hik@agate.berkeley.edu> izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa) writes: > I notice a little flood of postings from NeXT employees. > This means that 3.2 is out the door of NeXT, on time ?!! > > -- > Izumi Ohzawa [ $@Bg_78^=;(J ] > USMail: University of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720 > Telephone: (510) 642-6440 Fax: (510) 642-3323 > Internet: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (NeXTMail OK)
From: svensson@unixg.ubc.ca (Anders Svensson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: printing (and SoftPC) Date: 7 Nov 93 01:42:54 GMT Organization: The University of British Columbia Message-ID: <svensson.752636574@unixg.ubc.ca> Summary: What does "lpr file.ps" send to the printer? Keywords: SoftPC, DOS, printer codes A colleague of mine has a document written with the DOS program Chi-Writer that he would like to print out on his (black, 3.1) NeXT using SoftPC. The problem is that none of the supplied printer drivers (for a variety of PostScript printers) create anything remotely resembling PostScript (which we see by sending the output to a file rather than piping it to lpr). As I understand it, the output we're seeing contains "printer codes" which are understood by whatever printer the printer driver is for but I'm not really sure what this means! When I say "lpr file.ps" what is it that gets sent to the printer? I know next to nothing about DOS but am I right in assumming that to print the Chi-Writer document we would need a printer driver that creates PostScript? Any help would be appreciated. Anders
Newsgroups: uw.next,comp.sys.next,comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.software From: fineman@cs.washington.edu (Daniel Fineman) Subject: More NS questions! Message-ID: <1993Nov7.054231.13758@beaver.cs.washington.edu> Sender: fineman@cs.washington.edu Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle References: <1993Nov2.025251.24265@beaver.cs.washington.edu> Date: Sun, 7 Nov 93 05:42:31 GMT hey all - thanks to everyone who's been replying to my pleas for help. Here's the next (in an assuredly infinite number) problem i'm having: I'm noticing that every time i boot up & attempt to run "tiptop", i need to su to root and change the permissions on the /dev/cu* files, or any non-root account can't use the port. Is there a way around this? and, Is there some software out there that will swap the capslock/control keys? and, I ran builddisk on another hard disk, and the system showed that a bunch of files had been removed/changed. When i removed the new hard disk, were these files returned/restored? Is this going to be a problem? and, Can i download just any old source for tcsh, and compile it? Is there one specific to NeXTStep? Where might i find it? thnx lots dan fineman@u.washington.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) Subject: CD Music Playing Software (Repost) Message-ID: <1993Nov6.151122.3978@weston.com> Sender: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1993 15:11:22 GMT Does anyone know of any commercial or public domain software to play CD's of the musical type on Intel. Surely out of all of these copies of NS/FIP being sold and installed via CD, there must be someon who wants to listen to some tunes. What's the word? Thanks Wes -- Wes Spears <-------> jspears@weston.com (NeXTMail Welcome) The Weston Group (UUCP and SENDMAIL Consultation) 8524 Highway 6 North, 162, Houston, TX 77095
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) Subject: Font Distributor Message-ID: <1993Nov7.015200.710@weston.com> Sender: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1993 01:52:00 GMT I have seen the discussion about who distributes Fonts now, but I have not seen the answer I need. Short of the PD fonts on the archives, what options do I now have. I welcome any suggestions even the buy X Fonts for the Y and convert them with Z to NeXT Fonts. Thanks in advance. Wes _______________________________________________________ Wes Spears <-------> jspears@weston.com (NeXTMail Welcome) The Weston Group (UUCP and SENDMAIL Consultation) 8524 Highway 6 North, #162 Houston, TX 77095 (713) 827-2650 FAX (713) 856-7851 -- Wes Spears <-------> jspears@weston.com (NeXTMail Welcome) The Weston Group (UUCP and SENDMAIL Consultation) 8524 Highway 6 North, 162, Houston, TX 77095
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson) Subject: Re: Font Distributor Message-ID: <1993Nov7.065737.25349@news.media.mit.edu> Sender: news@news.media.mit.edu (USENET News System) Organization: MIT Media Laboratory References: <1993Nov7.015200.710@weston.com> Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1993 06:57:37 GMT In article <1993Nov7.015200.710@weston.com> jspears@weston.com writes: >>I have seen the discussion about who distributes Fonts now, but I have not >>seen the answer I need. Short of the PD fonts on the archives, what >>options do I now have. I welcome any suggestions even the buy X Fonts for >>the Y and convert them with Z to NeXT Fonts. >> I have very successfully used Trilithon Software's MacToPFA software, which literaly lets me drag-and-drop Mac Postscript fonts into my NeXT. I just converted over the whole of the BCS's PD font library the other day. In other words, buy a Mac font, buy MacToPFA, and you're all set. There are some other Mac font converters too, but I found MacToPFA very reasonably priced, and so... -- --> Michael B. Johnson -- wave@media.mit.edu --> MIT Media Lab -- Computer Graphics & Animation Group --> 20 Ames St. E15-023G -- (617) 253-0663 (day office) --> Cambridge, MA 02139 -- (617) 547-0563 (night office)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,andi.misc From: marketing@nextsrv1.andi.org (Marketing Director) Subject: Re: SoftPC for NeXT Intel Message-ID: <CG2oqu.KM8@nextsrv1.andi.org> Keywords: ANDI,SoftPC,Intel Sender: usenet@nextsrv1.andi.org (usenet) Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International References: <stivCFzr6n.7py@netcom.com> Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1993 13:42:29 GMT In article <stivCFzr6n.7py@netcom.com> stiv@netcom.com (Stiv D. Ostenberg) writes: > > >On any Intel box that runs NS, how much slower is SoftPC's DOS or > >Windows than simply running it native? >I would guess a machine would run at 1/2 native speed (a 486 50 > runs like a 486-25). Hope that helps. You will find that the "performance" varies based upon the program you are running. For example, an app the does a lot of screen redrawing such as Powerpoint is noticably slower. The "apparent" performance will also vary depending on how much RAM you have, the speed of the hard drive, and graphics card you use. --- Bill Strehl Executive Director ANDI - Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International, Inc. reply to:marketing@nextsrv1.andi.org "Take the NeXTSTEP and Keep on Truckin'..."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: c_avery@rsgreet.andi.org (Christopher Avery) Subject: Disk file fragmentation in UNIX Message-ID: <CG3Jwo.1Mz@nextsrv1.andi.org> Keywords: Disk Fragmentation Sender: usenet@nextsrv1.andi.org (usenet) Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1993 00:55:36 GMT About a month ago I posted a query about utilities that would optimize NeXT disk files similar to what Norton Disk optimizeer does for DOS. I got back about 4 replies telling me that FF took care of this an in the UNIX world files do not get fragmented. So I went to bed and slept soundly at night. Then I just got a SunWorld magazine with an article that says UNIX files do fragment just like DOS files and a company by the name of Eagle Software is selling the utility to fix that. Hopefully someone with greater knowledge of the Mach file system will read that article and pass on some definitive info. -- Christopher Avery reply to:cavery@andi.org (NeXTMail accepted)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: [Q]Convert X fonts to NeXT fonts? Message-ID: <1993Nov4.044332.56061@gmuvax> From: skahng@mason1.gmu.edu (Soonam Kahng) Date: 4 Nov 93 04:43:31 -0500 Distribution: world Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, USA Hi.. I would like to convert the fonts of X-window to ones of NeXTStep. Is there a way to convert them? Please let me know. The fonts don't need to be outline fonts. Bitmap or whatever( non-scalelable :) is fine. In addition... How can I use Bitmap fonts with NeXTStep for apps and programming. Thanks in advance. <Soonam> soonam@isse.gmu.edu
From: erikd@ccvax.ucd.ie Newsgroups: comp.lang.prolog,comp.sys.next.software Subject: SWI-Prolog and NeXTSTEP 3.1 Message-ID: <1993Nov5.130151.52542@ccvax.ucd.ie> Date: 5 Nov 93 13:01:51 WET Organization: University College Dublin Has anyone out there succeeded in compiling SWI-Prolog under NeXTSTEP 3.1? I'm having some problems with the termios and shared memory/dynamic stacks which are supposed to work with 3.0... Please respond via e-Mail to "erikd@ollamh.ucd.ie" since I don't normally read these groups. thanks in advance erik
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: cowboy@omega.csuohio.edu (Joe Rosenfeld) Subject: Re: SoftPC for NeXT Intel Message-ID: <1993Nov7.151617.10484@news.csuohio.edu> Sender: news@news.csuohio.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Cleveland State University References: <stivCFvx3x.28A@netcom.com> <2b8gv5$9p6@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> <stivCFxEy8.L9A@netcom.com> <jeffo.752371088@uiuc.edu> <stivCFzr6n.7py@netcom.com> Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1993 15:16:17 GMT Stiv D. Ostenberg (stiv@netcom.com) wrote: : jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) writes: : >On any Intel box that runs NS, how much slower is SoftPC's DOS or : >Windows than simply running it native? : >-- : I refuse to provide an "official" answer because I got my figures from : marketing. I would guess a machine would run at 1/2 native speed (a 486 50 : runs like a 486-25). Hope that helps. : BTW, since the demo versionis included with NeXTStep 3.2, give it a try and : let me know what YOUR impression of the speed is. : Stiv Not only does Stiv refuse to provide this answer, but he, apparently, refuses to tell us more about the NetWare and TCP/IP support. The lack of an answer is mysterious. I am more surprised because of my support for Insignia. Why not just answer my question and ease the minds of some of us NeXTSTEP users? -- | Joe Rosenfeld j.rosenfeld@csuohio.edu | Automation Librarian (216) 687-6881 [FAX] | CSU Law Library trans.csuohio.edu [ANON FTP] | NeXTMail and MIME ok
From: a5g192@rick.cs.ubc.ca (Wei-Yuen Tan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: X for NeXT, more questions Date: 7 Nov 1993 08:59:17 -0800 Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada Message-ID: <2bj9h5INN10h@keats.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca> OK, thanks to all who responded to my pleas for help. Anyways, I've found XMouse-v2.3 to be my best choice for now, but it only runs on 3.0 OS's. The black machines I'm dealing with all run OS 2.1. There is a note in the readme for Xmouse that says patches are available to make XMouse run on 2.1 machines, or at least the source code is available so I can compile it myself. However, there is no indication whatsoever where I can contact the authors of XMouse. Can someone point me in the direction of an email address or a ftp site where I can get the necessary patches?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.dec,comp.sys.hp.misc,comp.sys.isis,comp.sys.mips,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.prime,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.pyramid,comp.sys.ti From: sehrlich@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu Subject: Ham radio software wanted Message-ID: <1993Nov7.165846.453@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu> Organization: Northeastern University, Boston, MA. 02115, USA Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1993 16:58:46 GMT I maintain the FTP archives on world.std.com, directory: /pub/hamradio I am looking for any and all ham radio related software for ALL platforms, hardware and software. The world writable directory in the hamradio area is /pub/hamradio/Incoming If you have something to offer, please place it there, then e-mail me telling me the name of the program you placed there, what system supports it, a short description of the program, and, if necessary, where you recommend I place it within the directory tree. DOS software is readily available, and the Macintosh section is growing. I'd still like programs for these two systems, but I'd also REALLY like to expand to as many other systems as possible, be it any of the systems represented in the newsgroup you are reading this in, or any other system which may not be represented on Usenet. Please propogate this message as wide as possible. Thank you very much. Scott wy1z@neu.edu -- =============================================================================== | Scott Ehrlich Internet: wy1z@neu.edu | | Amateur Radio: wy1z AX.25: wy1z@wa1phy.#ema.ma.usa.na | |-----------------------------------------------------------------------------|
From: joggl@neuro.tuwien.ac.at (Joachim Kainz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Speech Recognition for NeXT, II Date: 7 Nov 1993 18:09:38 GMT Organization: Technical University Vienna, Austria Message-ID: <2bjdl2$smn@email.tuwien.ac.at> I know that this question was already posted here some weeks ago, but somehow I missed the answer: So please may somebody be patient with me and tell me if there is good speech recognition software for the NeXT. BTW: I already tried SimonSays but that application only recognizes a very tiny subset of natural language. (But, if somebody would like to control the NeXT-UI with voice <-> it works great for that restricted task!) Greetings from Vienna, Joachim. -- Joachim F. Kainz | Phone: ++43-1-58801-4132 VCNN, TU Wien | Fax: ++43-1-504-1580
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) Subject: Re: SUBMISSION: SpewView BackSpace module available Message-ID: <1993Nov7.182344.1636@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: Stanford University References: <PEDJA.93Nov6073745@midgard.cs.umd.edu> Date: Sun, 7 Nov 93 18:23:44 GMT & Bogdanovich writes > Spew BackSpace module uses Greg Smith's spew program to generate > National Enquirer-like headlines, and displays the headlines by > randomly picking the location, font, and color. I downloaded this and followed the installation instruction, but have been getting the "Could not dynamically load class: SpewView" error message that others have reported getting with other BackSpace modules. Was a solution to that ever found? This is on black hw, running 3.1. -- - Stefano Pagiola Food Research Institute, Stanford University spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged) spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: alastair@farli.otago.ac.nz (Alastair Thomson) Subject: Re: SoftPC for NeXT Intel Message-ID: <CG50sq.3r7@news.otago.ac.nz> Sender: usenet@news.otago.ac.nz (News stuff) Organization: University of Otago References: <1993Nov05.162315.1016@corona.com> Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1993 19:58:02 GMT In article <1993Nov05.162315.1016@corona.com> pkron@corona.com (Peter Kron) writes: > I think complaints should really be directed toward Insignia. They're > the ones who are making you buy a second copy of something you own, > assuming they are actually distributing vanilla copies of the Windows > ..EXE files. Even they, though have a valid reason to charge for > specialized drivers and increased support costs for configuring > Windows. Just one small point, as far as I am aware, what Insignia has done for both NT and NS, is much more than an emulator, it actaully re-implements much of Windows for the Un*x like environment. This apparently includes the Windows GDI (someone may correct me on this). My understanding is the SoftPC/Intel is a *very* different product to SoftPC/Motorola, in the same way is Sun's DOS/Windows compatibility package (whatever it's called) is not the same as the usual emulators. The only difference between Sun's product and Insignia's is that Sun reverse engineered the whole thing, whereas Insignia had a whole lot of help from MediocreSoft (and NeXT of course!) -- Alastair Thomson, | Phone +64-3-479-8347 Chief Programmer, | Fax +64-3-479-8529 The Black Albatross Project, | University of Otago, | alastair@farli.otago.ac.nz Dunedin, New Zealand | NeXTmail Welcome
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: henry@trilithon.com (Henry McGilton) Subject: Re: Font Distributor Message-ID: <1993Nov7.235041.2991@trilithon.com> Sender: henry@trilithon.com Organization: Trilithon Software References: <1993Nov7.015200.710@weston.com> Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1993 23:50:41 GMT In article <1993Nov7.015200.710@weston.com> jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) writes: * I have seen the discussion about who distributes Fonts now, I wish I had! Every now and then segments of net news seem to avoid the Bay Area and I only see the responses to other postings. * but I have not seen the answer I need. Short of the PD * fonts on the archives, what options do I now have. I * welcome any suggestions even the buy X Fonts for the Y and * convert them with Z to NeXT Fonts. Anyway, we [Trilithon Software] are an Adobe authorised reseller and can supply Adobe Type 1 fonts in NEXTSTEP format. If the fonts you want are not Adobe fonts [most other font vendors will only ship Mac or PC fonts], you can obtain Mac or PC fonts and purchase our Mac to NEXTSTEP or PC to NEXTSTEP font converters/installers. E-mail info@trilithon.com Telephone (415) 325-0767 FAX (415) 325-0768 ........ Henry
From: burton@het.brown.edu (Joshua W. Burton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Aliases in Mail.app? Date: 8 Nov 1993 05:49:46 GMT Organization: Brown University Message-ID: <2bkmlq$128@cat.cis.Brown.EDU> Finally have my SLIP connection running (almost) the way I want it--- thank you, Louis Mamakos! Also, thanks to everyone who helped me with the set-up; I'll return the favor by helping someone else get himself set up the same way.... A few remaining questions, mostly concerning NeXTmail: 1.) Is there any way to make Mail.app source the aliases in your regular Unix ~/.mailrc file? Assuming there isn't, I wrote a sed script that translates my .mailrc into the (colon- and comma-delimited) format that Mail.app puts into ~/.NeXT/.mailalias, with limited success. The format seems to be right, and the aliases do show up in Mail.app under Private Groups, but.... 2.) The Private Group aliases turn up in some random nonalphabetic order, even though they came from a strictly-alphabetized .mailrc file. I can't imagine where the weird ordering comes from, or where it is stored, but I would like to get rid of it. How do I force the Private Group aliases to realphabetize themselves? 3.) When I send NeXTmail to, say, 'hillary@whitehouse.gov', using an alias, say 'boss', the mail actually gets sent to the right address, but the 'From' line on outgoing mail shows 'boss@mynext.brown.edu', which can be embarrassing when my nice mnemonic nickname for someone is not something I want to share with him or her. I don't think this is a problem with my sendmail.cf, because it doesn't happen to regular Unix mail sent from home. Does anyone else use aliases in Mail.app, and if so have you seen this problem---and solved it? Thanks for any advice. I'll summarize if I learn anything. Joshua W. Burton <burton@het.brown.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: sola@cirfid.unibo.it (Stefano Sola) Subject: Re: Unsuccessful remote execution Message-ID: <CG4xFw.6MA@dm.unibo.it> Sender: news@dm.unibo.it Organization: Department of Mathematics, University of Bologna, Italy References: <2b9l7f$grd@hub.ucsb.edu> Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1993 18:45:31 GMT In article <2b9l7f$grd@hub.ucsb.edu> carlos@nexus.ece.ucsb.edu (Juan Carlos De Martin) writes: > > I am trying a remote application execution between a mono-NextStation 2.1 > (localhost) and a NextDimension 3.0 (remotehost). I followed the standard > steps, i.e. > - I made localhost a Public Window Server; > - I telneted remotehost; > - I typed in a terminal window "Application -NXHost localhost" > > but, with different applications, I always get the following error > messages: > > DPS client library error: PostScript program error, DPSContext 2a258 > %%[ Error: invalidid; OffendingCommand: currentwindowbounds ]%% > An uncaught exception was raised > DPS client library error: PostScript program error, DPSContext 2a258 > %%[ Error: invalidid; OffendingCommand: currentwindowbounds ]%% > > Any idea about the possible cause? Yes, I think; because NextStep 3.0 uses postscript istructions unknown by Version 2.1.; I have to use the same version of NextStep. Hope this helps! Stefano Sola
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: arnim@umn.edu (Arnim Walter Sauerbier) Subject: Newsgroup for NS/486? Message-ID: <CG648n.6Ly@news.cis.umn.edu> Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1993 10:07:10 GMT Stupid question: IS there a newsgroup for NS/486? Where can I get info on this way-cool sounding product? From NeXT? -Arnim Sauerbier Technophile
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jblencoe@blencoe.chem.ornl.gov (James G. Blencoe) Subject: Help with Mathematica requested Message-ID: <1993Nov8.140548.18984@ornl.gov> Keywords: Mathematica Sender: usenet@ornl.gov (News poster) Organization: Oak Ridge National Laboratory Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1993 14:05:48 GMT Before upgrading to NS 3.0, I used the following Mathematica code to: (1) pass numerical values to an external C program called "solvus.exe," (2) execute the program, and (3) retrieve three numerical results produced by the program: Pathname = "!/manuscripts_JGB/Pg-Ms_Micas/Solvus_Data/Computer_Calcs/"; Filename = "solvus.exe 2000. 300. 592. 9.73333 3"; File = StringJoin[Pathname,Filename]; SolvusDataFromExternalProgram = ReadList[File,{Number,Number,Number}]; However, now that I've upgraded to NS 3.0, this code doesn't work anymore, nor does any other Mathematica "piping" or "run" commands that I've tried as an alternative to the code presented above. I strongly suspect that others have encountered this difficulty and have developed a workaround. I would be very grateful if someone would send me an e-mail message explaining their solution to the problem. Thanks in advance. Jim
From: matthewm@sgate.com (Mike Matthews) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <2bgu65$e26@sgate.com> Control: cancel <2bgu65$e26@sgate.com> Date: 8 Nov 1993 08:13:31 -0500 Organization: Collins International Services Company Message-ID: <2blglr$m37@sgate.com> <2bgu65$e26@sgate.com> was cancelled from within trn.
From: jhermann@node_24045 (John Hermann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: X11R5 Date: 8 Nov 1993 14:18:29 GMT Organization: Design Automation Division, Texas Instruments. Message-ID: <2blkfl$7qc@barracuda.dadd.ti.com> I have the mouse X11R5 interface, but it didn't come with the libraries necessary to compile X11R5 stuff. The README that came with mouse X11R5 said that the libraries would be released in the future. Its been about a year since I got X11R5, and haven't found or heard of the libraries availability. Has anyone heard of the X11R5 stuff being available in the public domain for mono NeXTstations. Best Regards, John Hermann jhermann@lobby.ti.com
From: Ada Scorsone <as8t+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: HELP- new video board installation Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1993 10:32:01 -0500 Organization: Graduate School of Industrial Administr., Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <IgraNlK00iV1I54WYN@andrew.cmu.edu> Any help in this matter would be greatly appreciated. Q1. I am trying to install a new video board onto my computer. The video board is ODIVGA by Oak Technologies. I have removed dos from my computer. I have installed the driver for the board -(next already had it) - so, I selected it, turned off the machine, put in the new card and the pc won't boot up. Any suggestions on how to install the new card ?? this is frustrating... Q2. My old video card is Cirrus. DOes anybody know where I can find an SVGA driver for the card? Is the manufacturer the only way to get the driver?? Thanks in advance. --Ada Scorsone Research Computing Analyst GSIA - Carnegie Mellon University 412-268-5880 Thanks, --Ada Scorsone x5880 GSIA Computing Group
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc From: wucolin@popeye.CIS.McMaster.CA (Colin Wu) Subject: Anyone built curseperl on a Slab running 3.0? Message-ID: <1993Nov8.154413.8831@mcshub.dcss.mcmaster.ca> Sender: usenet@mcshub.dcss.mcmaster.ca Organization: McMaster University, Hamilton, Ontario. Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1993 15:44:13 GMT I posed this question in comp.lang.perl last week but haven't received any responses yet, so I thought I'd try here. I'm getting some compililation errors. The perl distribution is 4.036. Thanks for any pointers. -- __ _ _ Colin Wu / ) // ' ) / Network Analyst / __|/ o ____ / / / . . Computing & Information Services (__/ (_) \_<_/ / <_ (_(_/ (_/_ McMaster University (905)525-9140 ext 24050
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: wucolin@popeye.CIS.McMaster.CA (Colin Wu) Subject: Anyone built curseperl on a Slab running 3.0? Message-ID: <1993Nov8.155006.9387@mcshub.dcss.mcmaster.ca> Sender: usenet@mcshub.dcss.mcmaster.ca Organization: McMaster University, Hamilton, Ontario. Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1993 15:50:06 GMT I posed this question in comp.lang.perl last week but haven't received any responses yet, so I thought I'd try here. I'm getting some compililation errors. The perl distribution is 4.036. Thanks for any pointers. -- __ _ _ Colin Wu / ) // ' ) / Network Analyst / __|/ o ____ / / / . . Computing & Information Services (__/ (_) \_<_/ / <_ (_(_/ (_/_ McMaster University (905)525-9140 ext 24050
From: Ada Scorsone <as8t+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next Subject: Best PC HW configuration Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1993 10:35:42 -0500 Organization: Graduate School of Industrial Administr., Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <EgraRCu00iV1A54X8M@andrew.cmu.edu> What is the best PC hardware configuration for a PC running nextstep 486?? Board name brands, cdrom host adapter brands, video card brand, speciations for the motherboard, etc. My guess is a 32 bit machine with 32 Mb memory, but I don't know the rest. Thanks in advance. --Ada Scorsone GSIA Carnegie Mellon University 412-268-5880
From: sbeck@math.lsu.edu (Stephen David Beck) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: convert .wav to .snd (vice-versa)? Date: 8 Nov 1993 16:48:54 GMT Organization: Louisiana State University InterNetNews Site(test mode) Message-ID: <2blt9m$20v7@te6000.otc.lsu.edu> References: <1993Nov5.161651.21313@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com> In article <1993Nov5.161651.21313@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com> ssegur@next3.corp.mot.com (Shawn Segur) writes: > Any utility out there which will convert .voc and .wav files into .aub > or .snd (vice-versa)? > There is a NS app called GISO which is a front-end to sox, a sound file convertion program. I think it will do what you want. It is available from the ircam ftp site (ftp.ircam.fr).
From: Cuong Van Nguyen <cn0x+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: tar: CHECKSUM error Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1993 12:04:48 -0500 Organization: Junior, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <QgrbkkK00WB54rnrYQ@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <EgraRCu00iV1A54X8M@andrew.cmu.edu> Hi all, Does anyone know how to retrieve files inside a tar file with a checksum error? I ftp'ed the tar file to and from a server on AFS in binary mode. It seems like the tar file still contains the info, but it must have been corrupted somehow while on the AFS server. I can only retrieve a few of the files. Here's what I got: --------------- nguyen> tar xvf bin.tar x bin/a5p.dda5p.snd.compressed, 2072 bytes, 5 tape blocks x bin/dbfile.txt, 453 bytes, 1 tape blocks x bin/foo.snd, 1712 bytes, 4 tape blocks x bin/listfile, 49 bytes, 1 tape blocks x bin/m.ma4i.snd, 2114 bytes, 5 tape blocks tar: directory checksum error (2858 != 2790) nguyen> ---------------------- Thanks in advance for any help, Cuong
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: byer@mv.us.adobe.com (Scott Byer) Subject: Re: [Q]Convert X fonts to NeXT fonts? In-Reply-To: skahng@mason1.gmu.edu's message of 4 Nov 93 04:43:31 -0500 Message-ID: <BYER.93Nov8093316@birch.mv.us.adobe.com> Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS) Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View, CA References: <1993Nov4.044332.56061@gmuvax> Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1993 17:33:16 GMT Soonam Kahng writes: > I would like to convert the fonts of X-window to ones of NeXTStep. > Is there a way to convert them? Please let me know. The fonts > don't need to be outline fonts. Bitmap or whatever( non-scalelable > :) is fine. > In addition... > How can I use Bitmap fonts with NeXTStep for apps and programming. You can convert Type 1 fonts that are used with X to Type 1 fonts that NeXT can use. All that it takes is pfb2pfa and some file renaming. As far as using bitmaps, you can, as long as you have a Type 1 font to go with it. You need to take the X BDF format fonts, strip out the X specific junk at the top, and run it through "prebuild". If you have bitmaps that have to corresponding outline font, you can make another Type 1 font (such as Courier) pretend to be the bitmap font for the non-bitmap sizes by renaming the file. This is how Olfs works. Note that this kind of font will not print out as expected, especially if the intent is to use a glyph or decoration bitmapped font. There may be commercial programs to help do this, I'm not sure. You have to ask yourself why you want to use bitmaps. If it's to try and improve screen display, you'll probably be dissapointed - most of the bitmap fonts avaliable under X haven't been touched by human hands. They will look no better - and you have to be extremely careful not to get bitmaps and outlines fonts confused. If it's to get a specific set of symbols, such as the Cursors font, a better way would be to turn the specific glyphs that you need into tiff files, and use those. Then printing with those symbols will also work. As rasterization gets better and screen resolutions improve, bitmapped fonts will become a thing of the past. Hopefully soon. They really complicate things, and don't provide any additional functionality. -- Scott Byer NeXTMail: byer@mv.us.adobe.com Adobe Systems Incorporated These are *my* opinions, and 1585 Charleston Road, P.O. Box 7900 do not necessarily reflect Mountain View, CA 94039-7900 the opinions of my employer. ---------------------------------------------------------------------
From: bora@ils.nwu.edu (Don Bora) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Executor Date: 8 Nov 1993 19:41:53 GMT Organization: The Institute for the Learning Sciences Distribution: world Message-ID: <2bm7e1$4js@anaxagoras.ils.nwu.edu> I have found out that executor is a Mac emulator that runs under NeXTStep. How much does this thing run for? -*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* Donald F. Bora | | | The Institute for the Learning Sciences | | O | Northwestern University | (--|--) Evanston, Ill | | e-mail: dbora@ils.nwu.edu | / \ work: (708) 467-1972 | --------Be excellent to each other--------
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Quick Guide to the comp.sys.next.* newsgroups Date: 8 Nov 1993 14:55:59 -0500 Organization: Next Announcements Message-ID: <2bm88d$bq3@digifix.digifix.com> The current menagerie: comp.sys.next.advocacy This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. comp.sys.next.announce Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) The NEXTSTEP FAQs are posted here monthly as well. This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. comp.sys.next.bugs A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well. comp.sys.next.hardware Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. comp.sys.next.marketplace NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. comp.sys.next.misc For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! comp.sys.next.programmer Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. The NEXTSTEP programmer FAQs are posted here. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. comp.sys.next.software This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. comp.sys.next.sysadmin Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. related Newsgroups comp.soft-sys.nextstep Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. comp.lang.objective-c Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. comp.object Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep-d next-advocacy-d next-announce-d next-bugs-d next-hardware-d next-marketplace-d next-misc-d next-programmer-d next-software-d next-sysadmin-d (For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to <digestif@antigone.com>). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's. To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying: SUB Listname YourName Example: SUB next-hardware-d John Doe -------------------------------------------------------------------- Written by: Eric P. Scott eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU Minor editing: Scott Anguish sanguish@digifix.com Additions from: Greg Anderson (Greg_Anderson@afs.com) and Michael Pizolato (Michael_Pizolato@afs.com)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jwdb@dutnak2.tn.tudelft.nl (Jan-Willem de Bruijn) Subject: GatorFTP.app version 1.3 FAT anyone ? Message-ID: <jwdb.752789211@dutnak2> Summary: 1.4 is not an improvement Keywords: ftp gatorftp fat version Sender: news@news.tudelft.nl (UseNet News System) Organization: Delft University of Technology Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1993 20:06:51 GMT The 1.4 update to GatorFTP.app is not an improvement, as it crashes too often with the message: unlocked focus on wrong view (or such). On both architectures. Also the promised animated icon does not materialize. Can anyone point me to where they still keep a copy of version 1.3 (FAT) In our enthousiasm we deleted the previous version a little tiny bit too early. Or if some one wants to mail me a copy, that's OK of course, but please reply to this article first. Thanks in advance, Jan-Willem NeXT-mail: jwdb@delphi.tn.tudelft.nl -- Jan-Willem de Bruijn jwdb@dutnak2.tn.tudelft.nl Lab. of Seismics and Acoustics NeXT-mail: jwdb@delphi.tn.tudelft.nl Dep. of Applied Physics Discipline is never an end in itself, Delft University of Technology only a means to an end.
From: cooncat@gershwin (Jessica L. Mosher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Opener.app Date: 8 Nov 1993 20:50:45 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Distribution: world Message-ID: <2bmbf5$6v2@agate.berkeley.edu> I have a bunch of files archived with xxx.tar.gz that are supposively decompressible with Opener.app, but it won't recognise them. Any suggestions?
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Experiences w/ 3Dmodelling SW wanted (SolidThinking....etc) Message-ID: <Nov.8.16.04.18.1993.18055@gandalf.rutgers.edu> Date: 8 Nov 93 21:04:18 GMT References: <2bboup$prl@cobber.cord.edu> Distribution: na Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J. hadden@cobber.cord.edu (Anonymous) writes: >I would really appreciate it if anyone who has acquired any 3d Modelling >Especially, I would like to know about your experiences with >SolidThinking Modeller and SolidThinking Animator. >Other packages also: >Intuitiv'3d >3D Reality. Well, everybody seems to say that if you are going to do professional work you need the "SOLID" apps. I used there demo and it seemed EXTREMELY unNextish to me so I didnt like it--because of its interface--seemingly a port from another system. I used the demo of Intuitiv 3d, and although that isnt a 'Completely' Next user interface abider, it is very nice and much more powerful than all the rest of the industry except the SOLID products. So if you have to make a living at it, get the SOLID products, if you wont be making Terminator 3 (the only good animator is the SOLID product), Intuitive is probably the best way to go--if you can afford it. Later, John
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: I actually like a NeXT marketing ploy!!! Message-ID: <Nov.8.16.09.38.1993.18843@gandalf.rutgers.edu> Date: 8 Nov 93 21:09:39 GMT Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J. I just realized that NeXT may be doing something very good. The buy our OS and your first Software Update is free on us. Buy 3.1, get 3.2 free. Buy 3.2, get 3.3 free, etc... This will make people appreciate there upgrades and want to buy the next upgrade. Well, it kinda sounds nice to me, anyway. What do others think? Maybe everyone thinks that NeXT needs every cent it can get a hold on, and should charge all the time. I think it will lure people to invest now, say instead of waiting for the next major revision. Why should I wait for 4.0, when I can get 3.9 now and I'll still get 4.0? Later, John
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: kent@infoserv.com Subject: Re: convert .wav to .snd (vice-versa)? Message-ID: <CG2xFK.H4@infoserv.com> Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard) Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting References: <1993Nov5.161651.21313@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com> Distribution: na Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1993 16:50:08 GMT In article <1993Nov5.161651.21313@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com> ssegur@next3.corp.mot.com (Shawn Segur) writes: #Any utility out there which will convert .voc and .wav files into .aub #or .snd (vice-versa)? # #Thanks, #Shawn It may sound like overkill but SoundWorks 3.0 will do this with the added benefit of playlist editing, mixing, etc. I'm sure there is something cheaper than SoundWorks just to convert the file but you might want to manipulate it also. Kent -- /* K.L. Shephard Consulting is my company. Infoserv only delivers my mail. */ /* Please direct mail to kent@infoserv.com other adresses may not work. */
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: gerald@kurt.in-berlin.de (Gerald Erdmann) Subject: Re: Disk file fragmentation in UNIX Message-ID: <1993Nov7.231501.1167@kurt.in-berlin.de> Sender: gerald@kurt.in-berlin.de References: <CG3Jwo.1Mz@nextsrv1.andi.org> Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1993 23:15:01 GMT In article <CG3Jwo.1Mz@nextsrv1.andi.org> c_avery@rsgreet.andi.org (Christopher Avery) writes: > About a month ago I posted a query about utilities that would optimize > NeXT disk files similar to what Norton Disk optimizeer does for DOS. I > got back about 4 replies telling me that FF took care of this an in the > UNIX world files do not get fragmented. So I went to bed and slept > soundly at night. Then I just got a SunWorld magazine with an article > that says UNIX files do fragment just like DOS files and a company by the > name of Eagle Software is selling the utility to fix that. Hopefully > someone with greater knowledge of the Mach file system will read that > article and pass on some definitive info. Sorry, but mach WILL DO THAT FOR YOU! If you run fsck mostly you'll get a fragmentation <1%! Believe it! Gerald -------------------------------------------------------------- | GERALD ERDMANN | email: gerald @ kurt.in-berlin.de (NeXTmail welcome) | voice: +49 30 372 43 10 (Germany - Berlin) |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: gerald@kurt.in-berlin.de (Gerald Erdmann) Subject: Re: WordPerfect 5.1- or 6.0-compatible for NS black/white? Message-ID: <1993Nov7.232022.1240@kurt.in-berlin.de> Sender: gerald@kurt.in-berlin.de References: <1993Nov4.221001.919@rna.indiv.nluug.nl> Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1993 23:20:22 GMT In article <1993Nov4.221001.919@rna.indiv.nluug.nl> gerben@rna.indiv.nluug.nl writes: > Does anybody know if a WP5.1 or maybe even WP6.1 compatible WP for NS will be > available soon? Only WP5.1 IS available. A WP6.1 compatible WordPerfect is CANCELLED - said WordPerfect! No, not really canceled but suspended ... for ... hopefully not a long time :-) Have fun Gerald -------------------------------------------------------------- | GERALD ERDMANN | email: gerald @ kurt.in-berlin.de (NeXTmail welcome) | voice: +49 30 372 43 10 (Germany - Berlin) |
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Experiences w/ 3Dmodelling SW wanted (SolidThinking....etc) Message-ID: <Nov.8.17.44.02.1993.921@gandalf.rutgers.edu> Date: 8 Nov 93 22:44:02 GMT References: <2bboup$prl@cobber.cord.edu> <Nov.8.16.04.18.1993.18055@gandalf.rutgers.edu> Distribution: na Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J. kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) writes: >So if you have to make a living at it, get the SOLID products, >if you wont be making Terminator 3 (the only good animator is the SOLID >product), Intuitive is probably the best way to go--if you can afford it. Some how I was under the brain dead impression that Intuitive cost 1500, but I was corrected and told that it goes for 150.00--At that price it is a STEAL!!! Also, I didnt mean to imply that Intuitive is NOT a native NS app--i.e. its not a port. I just have some problems with some of its UI implementations-- the kind of problems you will have with ANY NS app--Ill post those objections up later, because right now Im late for class :-) Later, John
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: meekel@corp.mot.com (Jacques Meekel) Subject: Frame 4.0. not available on the NeXT Organization: MOTOROLA Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1993 21:37:45 GMT Message-ID: <1993Nov8.213745.10612@schbbs.mot.com> Sender: news@schbbs.mot.com (Net News) Few weeks ago, Frame 4.0. was released simultaneously for the Mac and the Sun platforms. I have been told by Frame that, so far, no decision has been made regarding the port of Frame 4.0. on NEXTSTEP. In a multi-configurations environment like mine, the future incompatibility with the Mac and Sun platforms will lead me to move on and drop my Next. Does someone see any hope or know a way to put some pressure on NeXT and Frame? --- Jacques Meekel Motorola Corporate Software Research and Development 3701 Algonquin, #600 Rolling Meadows,IL 60008 meekel@corp.mot.com 708 538 3019 Fax: 708 576 2025
From: Andrew Joseph Kompanek <ak10+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NextStep 486 Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1993 18:48:57 -0500 Organization: Sponsored account, School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <IgrhfdS00WB4NOZV5t@andrew.cmu.edu> I'd love to hear from anyone who has had any experience with NextStep running on an Intel machine. I've heard rumors but that's about all. Anyone out there in Netland who's running it? Only thing I know about is that you send mail to next.com. Any discussion out there? Drew
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: ctm@ardi.com Subject: Re: Executor Message-ID: <CG72LC.43n@cobra.cs.unm.edu> Sender: news@cobra.cs.unm.edu Organization: ARDI References: <2bm7e1$4js@anaxagoras.ils.nwu.edu> Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1993 22:32:03 GMT In article <2bm7e1$4js@anaxagoras.ils.nwu.edu> bora@ils.nwu.edu (Don Bora) writes: > >I have found out that executor is a Mac emulator that runs under >NeXTStep. How much does this thing run for? Executor has many limitations; it is best that you check it out before you buy (available via anonymous ftp as ftp.cs.unm.edu:pub/ardi/Executor_130.tar). The current suggested retail prices are $499 commercial and $249 educational and that includes free updates until we support color (hopefully by spring/summer '94). Executor/NEXTSTEP 1.3 will soon be sent via US mail to everyone who is entitled to free updates (the disks should be back from the duplicators tomorrow). You may be able to get a better deal from PC Connection (now handling NeXTConnection's affairs) or from MacAdam. Both of those places had a few copies in stock a while back. Their stock may be slightly out of date, but those copies are entitled to the free updates, so they're still worth buying. I believe Alpine Computing will start selling Executor soon. More info can be had by sending e-mail to questions@ardi.com --Cliff ctm@ardi.com
From: bill@alamut.cognet.ucla.edu (William M. Eldridge) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: X for NeXT Date: 8 Nov 1993 17:29:28 -0800 Organization: UCLA Cognitive Science Research Program Message-ID: <2bmrpo$evc@alamut.cognet.ucla.edu> References: <2b6mq0INN6v9@gambier.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca> <2bbdt5$fq8@hub.ucsb.edu> >] Does anyone out there know of something that allows me to run X off a remote >] server? I'm currently TA'ing in a class full of NeXT machines running >NeXTStep >] 2.0, and would like to run X apps off my own account somewhere else in the >] building. You should be able to mount your remote disk NFS, and if you mount it in the right place, you can run X (so that X can find the libraries, etc.) -- Bill Eldridge "Hung with care bill@cognet.ucla.edu by a jury de rigeur" 310-206-3960 (3987 fax) ..................
From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Frame 4.0. not available on the NeXT Date: 9 Nov 93 04:20:46 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <jeffo.752818846@uiuc.edu> References: <1993Nov8.213745.10612@schbbs.mot.com> Jacques Meekel writes: >In a multi-configurations environment like mine, the future >incompatibility with the Mac and Sun platforms will lead me to move on >and drop my Next. Does someone see any hope or know a way to put some >pressure on NeXT and Frame? Unless you're into waiting for some 3rd-party to release something worthwhile, I think you should drop NeXT and go with a vendor where you can get your work done on software that doesn't have such a dicey future. In my opinion, all NS has now is the *potential* to be a DTP leader, unfortunately I can't think of any NS apps with a strong NS future that actually take advantage of this. I'd like to see suggestions of a significant NS DTP app that's here *now* that can't be used elsewhere or done better on another platform or will provide a strong reason to stick with NS. TeX is the strongest reason I can think of to use NS, but since I require a GUI for my DTP work (especially on a machine with the graphic power of NS) and since TeX is available elsewhere, I see no reason to buy an NS machine for it. If NS DTP becomes competitive, you will probably be able to get a '486 machine relatively cheaply. But until then, I think NS DTP is just a coulda-been-great and not worth the hassle of dealing with old software. -- J.B. Nicholson-Owens (*NO* NeXTmail please)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Middle button for X? Message-ID: <1993Nov8.220100.56164@gmuvax> From: skahng@mason1.gmu.edu (Soonam Kahng) Date: 8 Nov 93 22:00:59 -0500 Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, USA Where is the middle button of mouse with mouseX? What the combination should I use to emulate the middle button.... need help.. <Soonam>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: henry@trilithon.com (Henry McGilton) Subject: Re: [Q]Convert X fonts to NeXT fonts? Message-ID: <1993Nov9.004853.5575@trilithon.com> Sender: henry@trilithon.com Organization: Trilithon Software References: <BYER.93Nov8093316@birch.mv.us.adobe.com> Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1993 00:48:53 GMT In article <BYER.93Nov8093316@birch.mv.us.adobe.com> byer@mv.us.adobe.com (Scott Byer) writes: * Soonam Kahng writes: * > I would like to convert the fonts of X-window to ones * > of NeXTStep. Is there a way to convert them? Please * > let me know. The fonts don't need to be outline fonts. * > Bitmap or whatever( non-scalelable :) is fine. * You can convert Type 1 fonts that are used with X to Type * 1 fonts that NeXT can use. All that it takes is pfb2pfa * and some file renaming. * There may be commercial programs to help do this, I'm not sure. You can convert PFB fonts to NEXTSTEP PFA format and install them on your NEXTSTEP system using PfbToPfa from us (Trilithon Software). No file renaming is needed as PfbToPfa figures out the correct names of the fonts by using the DPS server to interrogate the font for its name. PfbToPfa also generates AFM files if none exist. PfbToPfa -- a PC to NeXT font converter and installer. PfbToPfa: o converts PC storage format to NeXT PFA format. o converts and sanitises AFM file (is there is one). o converts PFM (if there is one) to AFM. o generates AFM file (if neither AFM nor PFM exist). o installs the font for you. o Available now for Black Hardware and Intel Hardware We also supply a similar package to convert and install Macintosh fonts on NEXTSTEP systems. For details on Mac or PC format to NEXTSTEP font converters/installers, contact: Trilithon Software, Two Ohlone, Portola Valley, California 94028. Telephone: 415-325-0767 FAX: 415-325-0768 E-Mail: info@trilithon.com ........ Henry
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,andi.misc From: marketing@nextsrv1.andi.org (Marketing Director) Subject: Looking for Device driver writers Message-ID: <CG6HJp.Hvt@nextsrv1.andi.org> Keywords: ANDI,NeXTSTEP,drivers Sender: usenet@nextsrv1.andi.org (usenet) Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1993 14:57:25 GMT With the release of 3.2, ANDI is looking for people who want to or are interested in writing device drivers. Through our tradeshow experiences we have found a number of companies interested in having drivers written. Please let us know what previous experience you have in this area. --- Bill Strehl Executive Director ANDI - Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International, Inc. reply to:marketing@nextsrv1.andi.org "Take the NeXTSTEP and Keep on Truckin'..."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: img@aisb.ed.ac.uk (Ian Green) Subject: Re: X11R5 In-Reply-To: jhermann@node_24045's message of 8 Nov 1993 14:18:29 GMT Message-ID: <IMG.93Nov9100856@achtriochtan.aisb.ed.ac.uk> Sender: news@aisb.ed.ac.uk (Network News Administrator) Organization: Department of Artificial Intelligence, University of Edinburgh References: <2blkfl$7qc@barracuda.dadd.ti.com> Date: 9 Nov 93 10:08:56 jhermann@node_24045 (John Hermann) wrote: > I have the mouse X11R5 interface, but it didn't come with > the libraries necessary to compile X11R5 stuff. The README > that came with mouse X11R5 said that the libraries would be > released in the future. Its been about a year since I got > X11R5, and haven't found or heard of the libraries availability. > Has anyone heard of the X11R5 stuff being available in the > public domain for mono NeXTstations. John and other X11ers, I'm not sure what you have at the moment, but you can ftp everything from pub/next/XNeXT on cs.orst.edu. This is a complete server and patches for MITx11r5.pl22 for the NeXT. If you are running NS2.x and need some help compiling the server (it expects 3.x), let me know and I can give you the patches. -ian
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bmhahn@poseidon.knoware.nl (Bernhard Hahn) Subject: Any OOA/OOD CASE tool for NeXTSTEP!? Sender: news@knoware.nl (News Account) Message-ID: <CG87My.H9y@knoware.nl> Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1993 13:18:32 GMT Organization: Knoware Nederland Keywords: OOA, OOD, CASE Hi, I'm desperately looking for a good OOA/OOD CASE tool for NeXTSTEP. Isn't it strange, that the one and only OO computing platform does not have one such tool. NeXT's Interface Builder/Objective C centered development environment is great for UI Design and OOP but provides very little support for OOA/OOD. It is my opinion, that a good OOA/OOD CASE tool for NeXTSTEP not only makes sense, but would be an ideal completion to the NeXT supplied development environment. For now I use Diagram!2 with it's fine Attachment Link features as my personal OOA/OOD tool, but of course this is more HASE (Human Aided Software Engineering) than CASE. What I would like to see, is something like ObjecTool by Object International. I've send email to Peter Coad (Author of several OOA/OOD/OOP books and Chairman of Object International Inc.), trying to convince him of releasing a NeXTSTEP version of ObjecTool, but he didn't comment. Perhaps if he gets (many) more such requests, he will think about it? Perhaps I've overlooked some existing tool, if so, please let me know. If someone is working on such a tool and is looking for someone to participate in the development, please send me email. Thanks, --- Bernhard Hahn Holtrichtersveld 802 7327 DG Apeldoorn The Netherlands Tel: +31-55-339220 Fax: +31-55-339220 email: bmhahn@poseidon.knoware.nl (NeXT mail OK)
From: cahalan@clouds.gsfc.nasa.gov (Robert F. Cahalan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Middle button for X? Date: 9 Nov 1993 13:33:36 GMT Organization: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center -- InterNetNews site Distribution: world Message-ID: <2bo67g$bju@skates.gsfc.nasa.gov> References: <1993Nov8.220100.56164@gmuvax> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In article <1993Nov8.220100.56164@gmuvax> writes: > Where is the middle button of mouse with mouseX? > What the combination should I use to emulate the middle button.... > need help.. > > <Soonam> The default on the NeXT is that the right button acts like the left button, so pressing either or both has the same effect. To change this, go into Preferences (double-click the calendar icon), select the leftmost "mouse" icon, and under mouse preferences you'll see that "menu button" is disabled. Select "enabled" and "right". Reboot to make this take effect. Then the right button will bring up the main menu in any app, and under X you can access the "third button" by pressing both at the same time. --Bob-- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ .Dr. Robert F. Cahalan (Bob)...#..Laboratory for Atmospheres...... .cahalan@clouds.gsfc.nasa.gov..#..NASA-Goddard Space Flight Center .*** NeXTMail accepted ***.....#..Greenbelt, MD 20771............. .FAX: (301) 286-1627...........#..voice: (301) 286-4276........... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: brunkhorst@mayo.edu (Geoff Brunkhorst) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: WordPerfect 5.1- or 6.0-compatible for NS black/white? Date: 9 Nov 1993 13:59:06 GMT Organization: Mayo Foundation Distribution: world Message-ID: <2bo7na$6m4@fermat.mayo.edu> References: <1993Nov7.232022.1240@kurt.in-berlin.de> In article <1993Nov7.232022.1240@kurt.in-berlin.de> gerald@kurt.in-berlin.de (Gerald Erdmann) writes: > In article <1993Nov4.221001.919@rna.indiv.nluug.nl> > gerben@rna.indiv.nluug.nl writes: > > Does anybody know if a WP5.1 or maybe even WP6.1 compatible WP for NS > will be > > available soon? > > Only WP5.1 IS available. A WP6.1 compatible WordPerfect is CANCELLED - > said WordPerfect! No, not really canceled but suspended ... for ... > hopefully not a long time :-) Correction WP5.1 is not available. 5.0 compatibility is available in WP 1.0.1, and that compatibility is somewhat weak. As for the suspension... this is true. See my previous posts as who and how to contact WP as to your feelings about this. - Geoff ----------------------------------------------------------------- Geoffrey Brunkhorst brunkhorst@Mayo.edu Research Computing Facility, Guggenheim 10 (507) 284-1805 Mayo Foundation, Rochester MN, 55905, USA fax (507) 284-5231
From: wilson@cs.umd.edu (Anne Wilson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Edit bug Date: 9 Nov 1993 09:40:07 -0500 Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742 Distribution: world Message-ID: <2boa47$444@ringding.cs.umd.edu> There is a bug in Edit. I'm not sure what invokes it, but the scenario always goes like this: I keep an Edit Windows menu off to the side as I open and shut many files. At some point, I click on one of the entries in the Windows menu to pop that window to the front, at least that's what I try to do, but instead Edit closes all the windows and quits, losing everything that wasn't saved. Arrrrggghhh!! I'd say this has happened to me about four times now. I've tried to duplicate this bug, but can't. Is this a known bug? Is there a work around? Please email to me directly. I will summarize and post if there appears to be general interest. Thank you! Anne Wilson
From: jbell@spiffy.cybernet.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Frame 4.0. not available on the NeXT Date: 09 Nov 93 10:09:05 Organization: Msen, Inc. -- Ann Arbor, Michigan Distribution: fj Message-ID: <jbell.93Nov91095@spiffy> References: <1993Nov8.213745.10612@schbbs.mot.com> <jeffo.752818846@uiuc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain J.B. Nicholson-Owens writes: > Jacques Meekel writes: > > >In a multi-configurations environment like mine, the future > >incompatibility with the Mac and Sun platforms will lead me to move on > >and drop my Next. Does someone see any hope or know a way to put some > >pressure on NeXT and Frame? > > Unless you're into waiting for some 3rd-party to release something > worthwhile, I think you should drop NeXT and go with a vendor where > you can get your work done on software that doesn't have such a dicey > future. In my opinion, all NS has now is the *potential* to be a DTP > leader, unfortunately I can't think of any NS apps with a strong NS > future that actually take advantage of this. > > I'd like to see suggestions of a significant NS DTP app that's here > *now* that can't be used elsewhere or done better on another platform > or will provide a strong reason to stick with NS. TeX is the > strongest reason I can think of to use NS, but since I require a GUI > for my DTP work (especially on a machine with the graphic power of NS) > and since TeX is available elsewhere, I see no reason to buy an NS > machine for it. > I wouldn't hold out for Frame to get anything out for NS anytime soon. If you're organization depends on having Frame, then you'll need to dump your NeXT. If you aren't tied that tightly to Frame you might want to consider Pages. Pages != Frame as far as functionality goes, but I've used Pages and find that the output is generally better than Frame and can be achieved much more quickly (this of course depends on your ability to use DTP tools, Pages is really geared for the person who does not know very much about design). It is too bad that the NeXT didn't take off in the area of DTP, the OS is really set up nicely for this task. --- J. Shan Bell Cybernet Systems Corportation jbell@cybernet.com (NeXTMail accepted) Research and Development (313) 668-2567 Voice (313) 668-8780 Fax Ann Arbor, MI
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: kai@rhein-main.de (Kai Augustin) Subject: TransSys DialUp IP error -HELP !!!!!! Message-ID: <1993Nov8.135822.319@shumway.rhein-main.de> Sender: kai@shumway.rhein-main.de (Kai Augustin) Organization: Kai Augustin (Gordon Shumway Productions) Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1993 13:58:22 GMT Hi When I invoke DialUp Ip [920904] (booting or <sh /etc/rc.local>) i get in my Console something like that : ... Begin SLIP configuration. Configuring interface slip0 duioctl: SETADDR, enabling interface slip1 duioctl DialUp IP [920904] slip0 Can't disable compression: SIOCBISSOFTFLAGS: Invalid argument add host ...etc ... What is wrong and where is the mistake? I think it has to do with an argument that shoud be invoked in the /usr/dialupip/config/hooks.tcl or so. byebye Kai
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: kai@rhein-main.de (Kai Augustin) Subject: TransSys DialUp IP error -HELP !!!!!! Message-ID: <1993Nov8.195344.709@shumway.rhein-main.de> Sender: kai@shumway.rhein-main.de (Kai Augustin) Organization: Kai Augustin (Gordon Shumway Productions) Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1993 19:53:44 GMT Hi When I invoke DialUp Ip [920904] (booting or <sh /etc/rc.local>) i get in my Console something like that : ... Begin SLIP configuration. Configuring interface slip0 duioctl: SETADDR, enabling interface slip1 duioctl DialUp IP [920904] slip0 Can't disable compression: SIOCBISSOFTFLAGS: Invalid argument add host ...etc ... What is wrong and where is the mistake? I think it has to do with an argument that shoud be invoked in the /usr/dialupip/config/hooks.tcl or so. byebye Kai
From: blake015@mc.duke.edu (Denise Blakeley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Opener.app Message-ID: <23352@news.duke.edu> Date: 9 Nov 93 16:20:57 GMT References: <2bmbf5$6v2@agate.berkeley.edu> Sender: news@news.duke.edu Jessica L. Mosher writes > > I have a bunch of files archived with xxx.tar.gz that are supposively > decompressible with Opener.app, but it won't recognise them. > > Any suggestions? Which version of Opener are you running? The earliest version that handled .gz files was 3.0; the latest version is 3.1.1. Denise -- Denise Blakeley | PROGRAM, tr. v., An activity similar Duke Med Center Info Systems | to banging one's head against a wall, Durham, NC | but with fewer opportunities for (919) 286-6468 W | reward. blake015@mc.duke.edu | NeXTMail welcome!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: max@elija.unibe.ch (Max Hoesle) Subject: kermit ? Message-ID: <1993Nov9.163947.18092@aragorn.unibe.ch> Sender: news@aragorn.unibe.ch Organization: University of Berne, Switzerland Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1993 16:39:47 GMT Where I can find source code and manual from C-kermit -- Maximilian Hoesle Phone: ++41 (0)31 631 89 49 University of Berne Fax: ++41 (0)31 631 37 65 Institute of applied Physics Sidlerstrasse 5 Internet: hoesle@iap.unibe.ch CH-3012 Berne Next-Mail: max@elija.unibe.ch Switzerland
From: mek@guinan.psu.edu (Mark E. Kotanchek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Frame under Windows under NS486? (was Re: Frame 4.0. not available ...) Date: 9 Nov 1993 16:55:34 GMT Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing Message-ID: <2boi26$k5r@genesis.ait.psu.edu> References: <1993Nov8.213745.10612@schbbs.mot.com> In article <1993Nov8.213745.10612@schbbs.mot.com> meekel@corp.mot.com (Jacques Meekel) writes: > Few weeks ago, Frame 4.0. was released simultaneously for the Mac and the Sun > platforms. I have been told by Frame that, so far, no decision has been made > regarding the port of Frame 4.0. on NEXTSTEP. In a multi-configurations > environment like mine, the future incompatibility with the Mac and Sun > platforms will lead me to move on and drop my Next. Does someone see any hope > or know a way to put some pressure on NeXT and Frame? > I dearly love my NeXTstation -- primarily due to having consistent imaging models (i.e., display postscript) and a "real" operating system as well as the best GUI I've ever faced. Alas, MY mission-critical apps are Mathematica, MATLAB, and FrameMaker. While I can scrape by with Mma and RLaB on the NeXT or run MATLAB on my Powerbook if need be, I refuse to go back to LaTeX and Pages cannot handle my equation-laden documents. I also would like to be able to work on the road with my Powerbook. Thus, it would appear that I'm stuck with choosing between a Sun or HP workstation or a high-end Mac for my next machine. (A Windows machine doesn't qualify. ;) Needless to say, the apparent indifference of NeXT and Frame to my desires makes me fairly cranky. That said, I was wondering how the Windows versions of FrameMaker (and MATLAB) integrated with NS/I? Is it feasible and non-painful to run these applications under NS486 and to be able to take stuff from Diagram or Create or .... and slap it into a FrameMaker document? What compromises will I have to make? It appears that I'm going to be forced to compromise either with the GUI, the OS, or the applications. I'm now trying to determine a minimum-pain path. Thanks for the insights and opinions, Mark. -- Mark Kotanchek Guidance & Control Dept - 363 ASB Applied Research Lab/Penn State P.O. Box 30 State College, PA 16804
From: agm@doc.ic.ac.uk (Axel G Merk) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: using 'term' instead of SLIP, downloading news Date: 9 Nov 1993 17:33:54 GMT Organization: Dept. of Computing, Imperial College, University of London, UK. Distribution: world Message-ID: <2boka2$7fi@frigate.doc.ic.ac.uk> Michael O'Reilly wrote a program called "term" which provides a SLIP-like connection (without being SLIP). It is a server for multiple communication channels on a serial link. In particular, one can redirect any local port to a remote port across a modem line. If you use this program to receive and send news, could you give me a hand at setting this up on my NeXT ('040 cube)? I would suspect one simply compiles the program on both ends and one is ready to 'go'. There's even a Makefile.next. Well, I have attempted to compile it and received complaints about missing libraries. Maybe, I could solve it investigating the problems in detail, but if you have installed 'term', you could seriously speed up my efforts. In addition, I'm not a 'news'-hacker and would start from scratch on how to connect what to what. Please email directly to me. If I am successful and receive requests, I will post a summary on how to proceed. (If that's been done already, please refer me to it) THANKS! Axel ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Axel Merk agm@doc.ic.ac.uk phone/fax +44-71-724 9089 -- -- 13 Archery Steps St. George's Fields Albion St London W2 2YF -- -- "One needs a certain amount of blindness to see perfection" -- ---------------------------------------------------- Christopher Nuzum --- p.s. term is available from anonymous ftp on tartarus.uwa.edu.au:/pub/oreillym/term/term???.tar.z and nic.funet.fi:/pub/OS/Linux/BETA/term???.tar.z
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: tt@panda.unibe.ch (Thomas Tschannen) Subject: Re: kermit ? Message-ID: <1993Nov9.170032.19656@aragorn.unibe.ch> Keywords: kermit, filetransfer Sender: news@aragorn.unibe.ch Organization: University of Berne, Switzerland References: <1993Nov9.163947.18092@aragorn.unibe.ch> Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1993 17:00:32 GMT In article <1993Nov9.163947.18092@aragorn.unibe.ch> max@elija.unibe.ch (Max Hoesle) writes: > Where I can find source code and manual from C-kermit > > -- > Maximilian Hoesle Phone: ++41 (0)31 631 89 49 > University of Berne Fax: ++41 (0)31 631 37 65 > Institute of applied Physics > Sidlerstrasse 5 Internet: hoesle@iap.unibe.ch > CH-3012 Berne Next-Mail: max@elija.unibe.ch > Switzerland You should look at ftp.cc.columbia.edu. -- Hope this helps, Thomas.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: gary@nshade.uah.ualberta.ca (Gary Ritchie) Subject: VOID game Message-ID: <1993Nov9.180603.8403@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1993 18:06:03 GMT RightBrain (at least I think it was RightBrain) had a networkable game called VOID which they released a year or two ago. Now that they are (sadly) defunct, has anyone heard any noise about what they will do with this product? -- Gary Ritchie : NeXT Programmer Department of Medicine (Neurology) : University of Alberta Hospital gary@uaneuro.uah.ualberta.ca : NEXTMAIL Welcome (403) 492-8648
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: esprit@netcom.com (Alan F. Perry) Subject: MusicKit 4.0 problems on an 030 Cube Message-ID: <espritCG8Jsn.Bzx@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1993 17:41:10 GMT I recently installed MusicKit 4.0 on my 030 Cube and I am having some problems using it. When I launch (is that the term? gotta learn the NeXTerminology) Ensemble or WaveEdit, the system does the spinning wheel for a very long time (the longest that I let it sit was 15 minutes). If I hit the power switch, the machine will eventually shut down. When it comes to ScorePlayer, I am able to launch it and load score files, however when I play them, I get no sound and if I click on Stop, the machine goes into the same state as when I try to run Ensemble or WaveEdit. I had an old disk with Ensemble and ScorePlayer on it (version unknown) and they worked on my machine, which prompted me to get the latest (I presume) stuff off ccrma-ftp.stanford.edu and I now I have these problems. Any ideas? -- ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Alan F. Perry | Life is short, but by achieving greater speeds esprit@netcom.com (home) | a man can make his life a little longer and allan@lynx.com (work) | more affluent - Soichiro Honda
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: gross@stimpy.ame.nd.edu (George B. Ross) Subject: Application to output animationto video? Message-ID: <1993Nov9.191328.12151@news.nd.edu> Sender: news@news.nd.edu (USENET News System) Organization: University of Notre Dame Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1993 19:13:28 GMT Hey there, I'm looking for an application that will output a series of images (eps prefered, but tiff or others ok too) to the NeXTdimension board. This would be a combination of the applications Movie (by Patrick J. Flinn) and the VideoApp (from the /NextDeveloper/Examples/AppKit directory, by Jeff Martin). Does anyone know of an application like this (hopefully free/shareware). -george George B. Ross______NeXT mail welcome_______gross@stimpy.ame.nd.edu University of Notre Dame_______Aerospace and Mechanical Engineering Stop it, you're talking crazy--Stimpson J. Cat
From: jbell@spiffy.cybernet.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Frame under Windows under NS486? (was Re: Frame 4.0. not available ...) Date: 09 Nov 93 15:07:54 Organization: Msen, Inc. -- Ann Arbor, Michigan Distribution: fj Message-ID: <jbell.93Nov915754@spiffy> References: <1993Nov8.213745.10612@schbbs.mot.com> <2boi26$k5r@genesis.ait.psu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Mark E. Kotanchek writes: > I dearly love my NeXTstation -- primarily due to having consistent imaging > models (i.e., display postscript) and a "real" operating system as well as > the best GUI I've ever faced. Alas, MY mission-critical apps are > Mathematica, MATLAB, and FrameMaker. While I can scrape by with Mma and > RLaB on the NeXT or run MATLAB on my Powerbook if need be, I refuse to go > back to LaTeX and Pages cannot handle my equation-laden documents. I also > would like to be able to work on the road with my Powerbook. Thus, it > would appear that I'm stuck with choosing between a Sun or HP workstation > or a high-end Mac for my next machine. (A Windows machine doesn't qualify. > ;) Needless to say, the apparent indifference of NeXT and Frame to my > desires makes me fairly cranky. > So is Pages and EquationBuilder together not a solution? While I was in school I used EquationBuilder with WriteNow or LaTeX depending on how complicated the document was. What's the problem with Mma? Wolfram was releasing 2.2 for NS according to what I heard? Not flaming, just curious. --- J. Shan Bell Cybernet Systems Corportation jbell@cybernet.com (NeXTMail accepted) Research and Development (313) 668-2567 Voice (313) 668-8780 Fax Ann Arbor, MI
From: jbell@spiffy.cybernet.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: VOID game Date: 09 Nov 93 15:11:59 Organization: Msen, Inc. -- Ann Arbor, Michigan Distribution: fj Message-ID: <jbell.93Nov9151159@spiffy> References: <1993Nov9.180603.8403@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Gary Ritchie writes: > RightBrain (at least I think it was RightBrain) had a networkable game > called VOID which they released a year or two ago. Now that they are > (sadly) defunct, has anyone heard any noise about what they will do with > this product? > I think this was done by LightHouse. I seriously doubt that any updates are on the way. :-( --- J. Shan Bell Cybernet Systems Corportation jbell@cybernet.com (NeXTMail accepted) Research and Development (313) 668-2567 Voice (313) 668-8780 Fax Ann Arbor, MI
From: jbell@spiffy.cybernet.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Application to output animationto video? Date: 09 Nov 93 15:14:19 Organization: Msen, Inc. -- Ann Arbor, Michigan Distribution: fj Message-ID: <jbell.93Nov9151419@spiffy> References: <1993Nov9.191328.12151@news.nd.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain > Hey there, > I'm looking for an application that will output a series > of images (eps prefered, but tiff or others ok too) to the > NeXTdimension board. This would be a combination of the > applications Movie (by Patrick J. Flinn) and the VideoApp > (from the /NextDeveloper/Examples/AppKit directory, by Jeff > Martin). Does anyone know of an application like this > (hopefully free/shareware). > > -george > George B. Ross______NeXT mail welcome_______gross@stimpy.ame.nd.edu > University of Notre Dame_______Aerospace and Mechanical Engineering > Stop it, you're talking crazy--Stimpson J. Cat > Why not use Movie (or Icon.app did this also with tiffs) and then use ScreenScape? --- J. Shan Bell Cybernet Systems Corportation jbell@cybernet.com (NeXTMail accepted) Research and Development (313) 668-2567 Voice (313) 668-8780 Fax Ann Arbor, MI
From: ray@mayo.edu (Ray Ghanbari) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: VOID game Date: 9 Nov 1993 20:11:24 GMT Organization: Mayo Foundation Message-ID: <2bothc$c4m@fermat.mayo.edu> References: <1993Nov9.180603.8403@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> In article <1993Nov9.180603.8403@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> gary@nshade.uah.ualberta.ca (Gary Ritchie) writes: > RightBrain (at least I think it was RightBrain) had a networkable game > called VOID which they released a year or two ago. Now that they are > (sadly) defunct, has anyone heard any noise about what they will do with > this product? > > -- > Gary Ritchie : NeXT Programmer > Department of Medicine (Neurology) : University of Alberta Hospital > gary@uaneuro.uah.ualberta.ca : NEXTMAIL Welcome > (403) 492-8648 Actually, the game is put out by Lighthouse Design. I think you can get it from PCConnection. The big question is when Void2 is going to be released???? -- Ray Ghanbari Mayo Foundation ray@mayo.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: eboltz@acoustica.mrd.bldrdoc.gov (Eric S. Boltz) Subject: Re: Disk file fragmentation in UNIX Message-ID: <CG8qsC.J5y@dove.nist.gov> Sender: news@dove.nist.gov Organization: NIST References: <1993Nov7.231501.1167@kurt.in-berlin.de> Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1993 20:12:11 GMT In article <1993Nov7.231501.1167@kurt.in-berlin.de> gerald@kurt.in-berlin.de (Gerald Erdmann) writes: > In article <CG3Jwo.1Mz@nextsrv1.andi.org> c_avery@rsgreet.andi.org > (Christopher Avery) writes: > > About a month ago I posted a query about utilities that would optimize > > NeXT disk files similar to what Norton Disk optimizeer does for DOS. I > > got back about 4 replies telling me that FF took care of this an in the > > UNIX world files do not get fragmented. So I went to bed and slept > > soundly at night. Then I just got a SunWorld magazine with an article > > that says UNIX files do fragment just like DOS files and a company by > the > > name of Eagle Software is selling the utility to fix that. Hopefully > > someone with greater knowledge of the Mach file system will read that > > article and pass on some definitive info. > > Sorry, but mach WILL DO THAT FOR YOU! If you run fsck mostly you'll get a > fragmentation <1%! Believe it! > Sorry but the fragmentation % reported by fsck is NOT the same thing. Post this query to c.s.n.sysadmin. -- Eric S. Boltz My views, opinions and statements in no way reflect those of the U.S. Gov't, the U.S. Department of Commerce or NIST.
From: blake015@mc.duke.edu (Denise Blakeley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: WordPerfect Suspends Work On WordPerfect 6.0 for NeXTSTEP Message-ID: <23382@news.duke.edu> Date: 9 Nov 93 21:43:43 GMT Sender: news@news.duke.edu Followup-To: comp.sys.next.advocacy Sorry, I had to use a customer's account to post this - any replies should be made directly to briggman@rock.concert.net. Advanced Business Systems has been patiently waiting for WordPerfect Corporation to send me a beta of WordPerfect 6.0...just a couple of minutes ago, I received this facsimile from Nathan S. Hatch (Manager, UNIX Product Marketing for WordPerfect Corporation) The following is the text of the letter. "Dear Mr. Briggman: WordPerfect Corporation has enjoyed a good working relationship with NeXT over the years in developing WordPerfect for NeXTSTEP. After evaulating our efforts in the NeXTSTEP operating environment, WordPerfect Corporation has made the decision to suspend work on WordPerfect 6.0 for NeXTSTEP. This decision has been based on revenues and available resources. Each WordPerfect product division operates as its own profit center and must be able to fund development on that platform. WordPerfect for NeXTSTEP has not generated enough revenue to finance future development, therefore at this time there are no future plans for NeXTSTEP development. There will be an interim release of WordPerfect 1.0.1 for NeXTSTEP available in January 1994 and technical support will continue for one year from the date of the interim release. The interim release will include the following enhancements and fixes: Correct mapping of NeXT German Keyboard Link language files (fixed in UK interim) ASCII converter fixes Primary merge paper size is now saved during merge Macro editor extended character use corrected German/French versions updated to current US/UK versions We apologize for our delayed response on this issue, but feel this decision is necessary to accomplish our corporate objectives. Thank you for your loyalty to our products. If you have any concerns or questions about this decision, please contact the UNIX marketing group at 801-228-7253. Sincerely, Nathan S. Hatch Manager, UNIX Product Marketing" I suggest using WordPerfect's toll free number of 800-451-5151 and ask for the UNIX Product Group -- Denise Blakeley | PROGRAM, tr. v., An activity similar Duke Med Center Info Systems | to banging one's head against a wall, Durham, NC | but with fewer opportunities for (919) 286-6468 W | reward. blake015@mc.duke.edu | NeXTMail welcome!
From: blake015@mc.duke.edu (Denise Blakeley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: WordPerfect Suspends Work On WordPerfect 6.0 for NeXTSTEP Message-ID: <23384@news.duke.edu> Date: 9 Nov 93 21:44:23 GMT Sender: news@news.duke.edu Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware Sorry, I had to use a customer's account to post this - any replies should be made directly to briggman@rock.concert.net. Advanced Business Systems has been patiently waiting for WordPerfect Corporation to send me a beta of WordPerfect 6.0...just a couple of minutes ago, I received this facsimile from Nathan S. Hatch (Manager, UNIX Product Marketing for WordPerfect Corporation) The following is the text of the letter. "Dear Mr. Briggman: WordPerfect Corporation has enjoyed a good working relationship with NeXT over the years in developing WordPerfect for NeXTSTEP. After evaulating our efforts in the NeXTSTEP operating environment, WordPerfect Corporation has made the decision to suspend work on WordPerfect 6.0 for NeXTSTEP. This decision has been based on revenues and available resources. Each WordPerfect product division operates as its own profit center and must be able to fund development on that platform. WordPerfect for NeXTSTEP has not generated enough revenue to finance future development, therefore at this time there are no future plans for NeXTSTEP development. There will be an interim release of WordPerfect 1.0.1 for NeXTSTEP available in January 1994 and technical support will continue for one year from the date of the interim release. The interim release will include the following enhancements and fixes: Correct mapping of NeXT German Keyboard Link language files (fixed in UK interim) ASCII converter fixes Primary merge paper size is now saved during merge Macro editor extended character use corrected German/French versions updated to current US/UK versions We apologize for our delayed response on this issue, but feel this decision is necessary to accomplish our corporate objectives. Thank you for your loyalty to our products. If you have any concerns or questions about this decision, please contact the UNIX marketing group at 801-228-7253. Sincerely, Nathan S. Hatch Manager, UNIX Product Marketing" I suggest using WordPerfect's toll free number of 800-451-5151 and ask for the UNIX Product Group -- Denise Blakeley | PROGRAM, tr. v., An activity similar Duke Med Center Info Systems | to banging one's head against a wall, Durham, NC | but with fewer opportunities for (919) 286-6468 W | reward. blake015@mc.duke.edu | NeXTMail welcome!
From: blake015@mc.duke.edu (Denise Blakeley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: WordPerfect Bags NeXTSTEP Message-ID: <23385@news.duke.edu> Date: 9 Nov 93 21:45:41 GMT Sender: news@news.duke.edu Followup-To: comp.sys.next.marketplace Sorry, I had to use a customer's account to post this - any replies should be made directly to briggman@rock.concert.net. Advanced Business Systems has been patiently waiting for WordPerfect Corporation to send me a beta of WordPerfect 6.0...just a couple of minutes ago, I received this facsimile from Nathan S. Hatch (Manager, UNIX Product Marketing for WordPerfect Corporation) The following is the text of the letter. "Dear Mr. Briggman: WordPerfect Corporation has enjoyed a good working relationship with NeXT over the years in developing WordPerfect for NeXTSTEP. After evaulating our efforts in the NeXTSTEP operating environment, WordPerfect Corporation has made the decision to suspend work on WordPerfect 6.0 for NeXTSTEP. This decision has been based on revenues and available resources. Each WordPerfect product division operates as its own profit center and must be able to fund development on that platform. WordPerfect for NeXTSTEP has not generated enough revenue to finance future development, therefore at this time there are no future plans for NeXTSTEP development. There will be an interim release of WordPerfect 1.0.1 for NeXTSTEP available in January 1994 and technical support will continue for one year from the date of the interim release. The interim release will include the following enhancements and fixes: Correct mapping of NeXT German Keyboard Link language files (fixed in UK interim) ASCII converter fixes Primary merge paper size is now saved during merge Macro editor extended character use corrected German/French versions updated to current US/UK versions We apologize for our delayed response on this issue, but feel this decision is necessary to accomplish our corporate objectives. Thank you for your loyalty to our products. If you have any concerns or questions about this decision, please contact the UNIX marketing group at 801-228-7253. Sincerely, Nathan S. Hatch Manager, UNIX Product Marketing" I suggest using WordPerfect's toll free number of 800-451-5151 and ask for the UNIX Product Group -- Denise Blakeley | PROGRAM, tr. v., An activity similar Duke Med Center Info Systems | to banging one's head against a wall, Durham, NC | but with fewer opportunities for (919) 286-6468 W | reward. blake015@mc.duke.edu | NeXTMail welcome! -- Denise Blakeley | PROGRAM, tr. v., An activity similar Duke Med Center Info Systems | to banging one's head against a wall, Durham, NC | but with fewer opportunities for (919) 286-6468 W | reward. blake015@mc.duke.edu | NeXTMail welcome!
From: lparkyn@saturn (Lyle Parkyn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Frame 4.0. not available on the NeXT Date: 9 Nov 1993 17:08:18 GMT Organization: Rogers Communications Distribution: NA Message-ID: <2boiq2$9g8@mail.Rogers.Com> References: <jbell.93Nov91095@spiffy> Keywords: NeXT, Frame In article <jbell.93Nov91095@spiffy> jbell@spiffy.cybernet.com writes: > > J.B. Nicholson-Owens writes: > > I wouldn't hold out for Frame to get anything out for NS anytime > soon. If you're organization depends on having Frame, then you'll need > to dump your NeXT. If you aren't tied that tightly to Frame you might > want to consider Pages. Pages != Frame as far as functionality goes, but... > (munch) It is too bad that the NeXT didn't take off in the area of DTP, > the OS is really set up nicely for this task. Frame is reluctant to update for NeXTSTEP because they perceive there isn't a market any more. I think, hope :), they're awaiting for a few customers to indicate in a positive way that they need Frame. This means making a firm commitment to buying NeXTSTEP Frame, i.e. orders. For Frame Technologies to consider producing the upgrade they need to know they can sell it. Of course most existing and potential users don't want to commit to buying what doesn't exist, but that's probably what it will take. This really shouldn't be such a big deal. A number of sites have made major commitments to NeXTSTEP, particularly for mission critical app development. They're gearing major parts of their business around NeXTSTEP, spending many thousands on HW, training, development and apps (including earlier Frame versions) and yet now they don't want ensure that they'll continue to have an excellent documentation tool available to them. I think that if a small number of larger customers committed to buying Frame if were updated, then it would happen. This would benefit not only those customers but the entire NeXT community. -- Lyle D. Parkyn (416)250-4810 lparkyn@corpit.cantel.rogers.com NeXT Mail welcome Opinions expressed are my own.
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: SoftPC for NeXT Intel Date: 9 Nov 1993 22:46:44 GMT Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office Message-ID: <2bp6kk$f67@news.mic.ucla.edu> References: <stivCFvx3x.28A@netcom.com> <2b8gv5$9p6@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> <stivCFxEy8.L9A@netcom.com> I, for one, am pleased that Insignia is developing for NS/Intel, and will be buying SoftPC. My biggest fear is that Insignia might abandon NS/Intel in the future, and I will be sitting on an obsolete product that I bought for $250. It is high time for NeXT to start subsidizing cross-porting of popular software. No software, no computer purchases. Very simple. We still do not have a good DTP/word-processor on NS/Intel. PasteUp does not work (too buggy), WordPerfect is a very old version and somewhat slow (but the best there is), and Edit fails the mark. We need some recognized names. Frame's departure hurt; WordPerfect's implicit departure hurt. Lotus' (even for Improv, not only AMI Pro) departure hurt. Don't misunderstand me: I like small firms' products, too, but we also need large firms' products to pull people from other platforms. It costs money to push a new computer into a market; software development expenses are part of it. /ivo
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: SoftPC for NeXT Intel Date: 9 Nov 1993 22:52:08 GMT Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office Message-ID: <2bp6uo$f67@news.mic.ucla.edu> References: <1993Nov05.162315.1016@corona.com> <CG50sq.3r7@news.otago.ac.nz> Does the SoftPC Intel provide some safeguards against viruses? E.g., can it somehow intercept calls to reformat entire hard-disks or partitions? I am particularly worried about DOS programs wiping out NS partitions (as did the DOS 6.0 upgrade---and it was not a virus). /ivo
From: scott@nic.gac.edu (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Disk file fragmentation in UNIX Date: 9 Nov 93 16:54:12 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Message-ID: <SCOTT.93Nov9165412@nic.gac.edu> References: <CG3Jwo.1Mz@nextsrv1.andi.org> <1993Nov7.231501.1167@kurt.in-berlin.de> In-reply-to: gerald@kurt.in-berlin.de's message of Sun, 7 Nov 1993 23:15:01 GMT In article <1993Nov7.231501.1167@kurt.in-berlin.de>, gerald@kurt.in-berlin.de (Gerald Erdmann) writes: >In article <CG3Jwo.1Mz@nextsrv1.andi.org>, > c_avery@rsgreet.andi.org (Christopher Avery) writes: >> About a month ago I posted a query about utilities that would optimize >> NeXT disk files similar to what Norton Disk optimizeer does for DOS. I >> got back about 4 replies telling me that FF took care of this an in the >> UNIX world files do not get fragmented. So I went to bed and slept >> soundly at night. Then I just got a SunWorld magazine with an article >> that says UNIX files do fragment just like DOS files and a company by the >> name of Eagle Software is selling the utility to fix that. Hopefully >> someone with greater knowledge of the Mach file system will read that >> article and pass on some definitive info. > >Sorry, but mach WILL DO THAT FOR YOU! If you run fsck mostly you'll get a >fragmentation <1%! Believe it! Well, Mach doesn't have a filesystem, so Mach really won't do it for you. But, since NeXTSTEP runs BSD4.3 Unix over Mach, we get to use the BSD FFS. So, The Magic of FFS (as gleaned from reading "The Design and Implementation of BSD4.3 Unix" a couple years ago, alongside my tendancy to enjoy reading about esoteric data in various industry rags. Please keep in mind that this is a horrendous simplification, since I am not capable of comprehending the full beauty of FFS): Under DOS and similar operating systems, disk space is allocated on a first-come, first-served basis. Consider this disk: |................................................................| If we create a small file A, then a small file B, and then expand A, we get something like: |AAAABBBBaaaa....................................................| (The a's are the part of A that was expanded, and is now fragmented.) Now, create C, delete B, and expand C: * |AAAAccccaaaaCCCC................................................| Oops. Note how the first part of C is at the end, and the last part is stuck in between the two parts of A! This can get even worse. Erase the disk and create A again: |AAAAAAAA........................................................| Now, say we have a process that reads from A and writes out two new files based on that data, B and C, with the writing to those files interspersed. We might end up with something like: ** |AAAAAAAABBCBCBCBCCBCBBCC........................................| Eeek! If you want to read B or C, you can't just find it and then _read_, you have to continuously find where the next block is, because they aren't stored in a decent linear fashion. Now you want to go sic your disk defragger on * and **, and you'll end up with something like: * |AAAAaaaaCCCCcccc................................................| ** |AAAAAAAABBBBBBBBCCCCCCCC........................................| Since all of the parts of each file are now adjacent, reading each file is faster, because we don't have to traipse all over the disk to find them. But, once we start using the system again, the fragmentation will also start up again (consider expanding A or B above). How's it work with FFS? FFS doesn't allocate blocks from the disk in a linear start-to-end fashion. Instead, if spreads files all over the place. If we do the original "create A, create B" scenario, we might end up with something like: |AAAA............BBBB............................................| Instead of putting B right after A, it's put off somewhere else. I like to think of this as "pre-fragmenting" the disk (note that I said disk, not files). Instead of having fragmentation be a liability, it's an advantage, because the space between the fragments on the disk is available to expand those files. Now, if we expand A, we can stuff those new blocks right after the main part of the file: |AAAAaaaa........BBBB............................................| If we create C and delete B, it might look like: |AAAAaaaa........................CCCC............................| Again, we can stuff new C blocks right after the current position of the file, because those blocks haven't been allocated to anything else yet: *' |AAAAaaaa........................CCCCcccc........................| It's easy enough to see that accesses to A or C should be decent, because all of their blocks are stored together. Now, erase the disk and create A again: |AAAAAAAA........................................................| And start the process that turns A into B and C: |AAAAAAAA........BB..............C...............................| As you can see, as new blocks of B and C are required, they can easily be added at the end of the currently allocated blocks, and you end up like: **' |AAAAAAAA........BBBBBBBB........CCCCCCCC........................| Again, the blocks are all together. Isn't this all neat? So, where's the problem? Well, at _some_ point, the disk starts getting full: |AAAAAAAA........BBBBBBBB........CCCCCCCC........DDDDDDDD........| Now, if we want to create E, where does it go? Well, we'll obviously _have_ to start eating into those free areas which were allowing us to expand files: |AAAAAAAAEEEEEEEEBBBBBBBB........CCCCCCCC........DDDDDDDD........| If we want to expand A, we're stuck - we have to fragment the file: |AAAAAAAAEEEEEEEEBBBBBBBBaaaaaaaaCCCCCCCC........DDDDDDDD........| Now we've blocked off B, too, so it would have to be fragmented if expanded (though note that neither C nor D would have to be if they were expanded a bit). This is where the 10% space overhead comes from that FFS disks like to have. That space is reserved from use by general users in order to allow the storage algorithms to work in the manner demonstrated above. In the examples above, that %10 wouldn't help much because the file sizes were significant fraction of the disk size. On a 1Gig disk, for instance, the files would be on the order of 120Meg or more apiece. This is _not_ the norm! In general, the disk is orders of magnitude larger than the files stored on it, so instead of having a few large files as above there will be thousands of tiny files. With that in mind, %10 (100M for a 1Gig disk) gives you plenty of room to allow files to expand in an orderly fashion. That's why you'll generally only have %1 or %2 fragmentation on FFS disks. How's this all impinge on the original poster's question? First off, it strongly indicates that the value you would get for an FFS defragmenter would be much less than the value you would get from a DOS defragmenter. Also consider that the FFS defragmenter is probably going to cost an order of magnitude more than the DOS one - so you're paying more for less value! FFS is no _guarantee_ that files won't get fragmented - but where DOS FAT filesystem has no protection again fragmentation, FFS does. Defragmenting a DOS disk can often result in easily noticable improvements - whereas defragmenting an FFS disk might require precise measurements to determine if there was any improvement. [Throw this all out the door for non-FFS Unix filesystems. I have no idea how they work, and I noticed that the original poster quoted "UNIX files do fragment", an important point. From my readings, though, I'm pretty sure that newer filesystems like the new NT filesystem and OS/2 HPFS (or whatever) use very similar concepts. In fact, it's sort of odd to read about them because it almost seems like they take FFS and do a global find and replace on the terms so that instead of "inode" we have "hnode" or something of the sort, and many other terms are similarily different in odd ways so that at first glance you think they're talking about FFS, but they aren't.] Later, -- scott hess <scott@nic.gac.edu> <I can handle NeXTMail, but don't like it> 12901 Upton Avenue South, #326 Burnsville, MN 55337 (612) 895-1208 Anytime! <C++: ... One Language to bring them all and in the darkness bind them> <In the Land of Redmond where the Shadows lie.>
From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Frame 4.0. not available on the NeXT Date: 10 Nov 93 02:01:05 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Distribution: world Message-ID: <jeffo.752896865@uiuc.edu> References: <1993Nov8.213745.10612@schbbs.mot.com> <jeffo.752818846@uiuc.edu> <jbell.93Nov91095@spiffy> [What's 'fj' distribution? I changed it to 'world'.] jbell@spiffy.cybernet.com writes: >If you aren't tied that tightly to Frame you might >want to consider Pages. Does this mean Pages is shipping now? Last I heard, Pages wasn't shipping, but the advertisement in NeXTWORLD magazine said it was. Has anyone read a full review of the product (not a preview, but a review of the released software) or would anyone care to share one with the rest of the c.s.n.software readers? -- J.B. Nicholson-Owens (*NO* NeXTmail please)
From: andrew@cubetech.com (Andrew Loewenstern) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Disk file fragmentation in UNIX Date: 9 Nov 1993 19:24:13 -0600 Organization: Cube Technologies, Inc Message-ID: <2bpfrt$h9j@valinor.cubetech.com> References: <CG3Jwo.1Mz@nextsrv1.andi.org> <1993Nov7.231501.1167@kurt.in-berlin.de> In article <1993Nov7.231501.1167@kurt.in-berlin.de> gerald@kurt.in-berlin.de (Gerald Erdmann) writes: >> soundly at night. Then I just got a SunWorld magazine with an article >> that says UNIX files do fragment just like DOS files and a company by >the >> name of Eagle Software is selling the utility to fix that. Hopefully >> someone with greater knowledge of the Mach file system will read that >> article and pass on some definitive info. > >Sorry, but mach WILL DO THAT FOR YOU! If you run fsck mostly you'll get a >fragmentation <1%! Believe it! I believe that when fsck refers to 'fragmentation' it is referring to the percentage of file allocation blocks that are partially full ('frags') and not the number of files that are not located on the disk in contiguous blocks. So the Berkeley FFS does get fragmented and the only way to defrag it is to back everything up, reformat, and restore it all at once... andrew -- andrew@cubetech.com | "We cannot dwell in the time that is to come, Andrew Loewenstern | lest we lose our now for a phantom of our Cube Technologies, Inc. | own design." - Erendis e-me for my public key
From: joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu (Joe Panico) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Sybase server included with NSI 3.1 Academic bundle? Message-ID: <161191@netnews.upenn.edu> Date: 10 Nov 93 00:49:21 GMT Sender: news@netnews.upenn.edu Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: Dept. of Neuroscience, U. of Pennsylvania Hi, I'm now the proud father of a baby NSI 3.1 system. The acedemic (developers) edition includes the DBKit, used for developing a front end to a database server, but does it include an oracle or sybase server (engine)? I can't tell' ffrom my cursory examination of the documentation, although it appears that a sybase server may be included. Any tips much appreciated. Thanks. Joe Panico joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu
From: rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us (Bob Peirce #305) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Librarian topics Message-ID: <1993Nov9.194200.1833@investor.pgh.pa.us> Date: 9 Nov 93 19:42:00 GMT References: <vfr750CFFyKq.7KE@netcom.com> <2aivjr$a3@theborg.stack.urc.tue.nl> Organization: Cookson, Peirce & Co., Pittsburgh, PA In article <2aivjr$a3@theborg.stack.urc.tue.nl> rcbaab@urc.tue.nl writes: >In article <vfr750CFFyKq.7KE@netcom.com> vfr750@netcom.com (Will Hartung) >writes: >> was a way for Digital Librarian to display a subject or summary along >> with the file name after you've done a search or a List Titles. >> b) If 'a' is Yes, what little thing do I have to do to the file >> to get the topic/summary line to show up? > >This seems to be a real problem. Here are the answers (only for 3.1): >b) Wait for 3.2 or go back to 3.0, it's a bug which NeXT has admitted (or so I You cannot just copy over ixbuild from 3.0. I did not originate the following but somebody sent it to me and it works. Copy shlib from /usr on the 3.0 disk to /3.0 on your HD. Use emacs (yes, isn't this amazing? It was to me) to edit ixbuild. Search for /usr/shlib and change /usr to /3.0. Save and ixbuild -g will work again. And thanks to whoever came up with this. Sorry I cannot give proper recognition. -- Bob Peirce, Pittsburgh, PA rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us 412-471-5320 venetia@investor.pgh.pa.us [NeXT Mail] !uunet.uu.net!pitt!investor!rbp [UUCP]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: al@rbc.uucp (Al Davis) Subject: Re: Opener.app Message-ID: <1993Nov9.235042.954@rbc.uucp> Organization: Huh? References: <2bmbf5$6v2@agate.berkeley.edu> <23352@news.duke.edu> Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1993 23:50:42 GMT >> I have a bunch of files archived with xxx.tar.gz that are supposively >> decompressible with Opener.app, but it won't recognise them. >> Any suggestions? > >Which version of Opener are you running? The earliest version that handled .gz >files was 3.0; the latest version is 3.1.1. It will handle anything you want if you edit the file "Opener.table".
From: briggman@rock.concert.net (David B Briggman -- Personal Account) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Font Distributor Date: 10 Nov 1993 07:25:43 GMT Organization: CONCERT-Connect Public Access UNIX Message-ID: <2bq51n$2nn@inxs.concert.net> References: <1993Nov7.015200.710@weston.com> <1993Nov7.065737.25349@news.media.mit.edu> MetroTools also has a drag and drop Macintosh font installer. and it works great. Dave -- Advanced Business Systems (919) 682-8553 "A NeXTSTEP-only Reseller" (919) 682-1126 [fax]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,andi.misc From: marketing@nextsrv1.andi.org (Marketing Director) Subject: Chance to have your software shown at COMDEX Message-ID: <CG98AM.B9B@nextsrv1.andi.org> Keywords: ANDI,NeXTSTEP,COMDEX Sender: usenet@nextsrv1.andi.org (usenet) Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1993 02:30:22 GMT Greetings NeXTSTEPPERS: There is a very high probability that ANDI will be at COMDEX. This means that if you are a software developer, you have a chance to have your product literature distributed. We will know for sure tomorrow, but we wanted to let you know right now. COMDEX is the largest computer tradeshow in the United States. In addition, if you have a working copy of your app we would be happy to showcase it. Let us know immediately if you are interested. We would be looking for approximately 500-1000 pieces of literature if you have it. We have made arrangements to have you send it directly to Las Vegas. ANDI will also send out an announcement of our booth number and the names of the organizations we will be representing to help generate leads for your product. This offer is limited to developers. --- Bill Strehl Executive Director ANDI - Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International, Inc. reply to:marketing@nextsrv1.andi.org "Take the NeXTSTEP and Keep on Truckin'..."
From: madon@disuns2.epfl.ch (Dominik Madon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Frame 4.0. not available on the NeXT Date: 10 Nov 1993 09:03:30 GMT Organization: Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne Message-ID: <2bqap2$j9c@disuns2.epfl.ch> References: <1993Nov8.213745.10612@schbbs.mot.com> Jacques Meekel (meekel@corp.mot.com) wrote: : or know a way to put some pressure on NeXT and Frame? I spoke recently with some vendors who sell (creates) products for NeXTSTEP and one of them told me that contacts with Frame have been made to port a 3.1 release of Framemaker on Intel boxes. At this time I don't know who is going to do the job. It may be Frame or not. This seller reports that many of their customers (NS/FIP) are asking for an Intel version. Unfortunatly, I think that to get a 4.0 release, we need that NeXT sells more OS. Dominik Madon --------------------------------------------------------------------- madon@di.epfl.ch madon@eig.unige.ch ---------------------------------------------------------------------
From: michi@cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Michele Giardini) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Objectware Workshop Date: 10 Nov 1993 11:45:29 GMT Organization: Computer Science Dep. - Milan University Message-ID: <2bqk8p$hku@ghost.sm.dsi.unimi.it> The Italian NEXTSTEP User Group in collaboration with State University in Milan Department of Computer Science and Intersoft Objectware Workshop The object's advantage The aim of this workshop is to show the power of NEXTSTEP developing environment (or, as someone says, the "Advantage of objects"). After a brief introduction to object oriented environment, we'll show the main features of NEXTSTEP operative system and its development kit. The core part of the workshop will be a well detailed demonstration about development of object oriented application, built using existing objects (bundled or third party) and writing less code as possible The workshop will be held at the Computer Science Dept. of the State University in Milan (Italy), November 12, 1993, h. 2:30pm. The address is: Via Comelico, 39 - Milan Speakers: Prof. Giovanni Degli Antoni (Computer Science Dept.) Introduction Dott. Roberto Grande (IT Studio) Why Object Oriented ? Rubens Malloggi (InterSoft, Italian VAD) NEXTSTEP Gianfranco Pocecai (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) Objects at work (Demo) Questions & Answers Free entrance PS: A feedback will be post ASAP. I also want to THANK John Yanefski (Target Development), Mike Panzitta (Doberman Systems), Valerie Birk (Professional Software), Scott Opitz (Conextions, Inc.) and all the people that have submitted their objects (not so many, but really useful) Giardini Michele - Computer Science Department State University of Milan - Coordinator of The Italian NEXTSTEP User Group Via Comelico 39/41 - 20135 Milano Tel. +39 2 55006385 Fax +39 2 55006373 Email: michi@cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (NeXT mail welcome)
From: mek@guinan.psu.edu (Mark E. Kotanchek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Frame under Windows under NS486? (was Re: Frame 4.0. not available ...) Date: 10 Nov 1993 14:53:44 GMT Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing Message-ID: <2bqv9o$95d@genesis.ait.psu.edu> References: <jbell.93Nov915754@spiffy> In article <jbell.93Nov915754@spiffy> jbell@spiffy.cybernet.com writes: > > Mark E. Kotanchek writes: > > > [munch] > So is Pages and EquationBuilder together not a solution? While I > was in school I used EquationBuilder with WriteNow or LaTeX depending > on how complicated the document was. > What's the problem with Mma? Wolfram was releasing 2.2 for NS > according to what I heard? Not flaming, just curious. > The problem is that FrameMaker provides a reasonable (although not complete) subset of the LaTeX formatting and cross-referencing along with "ease-of-use". EquationBuilder (which I use with other NeXT apps) isn't as easy to use as FrameMath and Pages (according to their literature) won't be able to handle the cross-references to equations and figures which I need. Mark. -- Mark Kotanchek Guidance & Control Dept - 363 ASB Applied Research Lab/Penn State P.O. Box 30 State College, PA 16804
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson) Subject: Re: Frame 4.0. not available on the NeXT Message-ID: <1993Nov10.141144.6147@afs.com> Sender: greg@afs.com References: <jeffo.752896865@uiuc.edu> Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1993 14:11:44 GMT In article <jeffo.752896865@uiuc.edu> jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) writes: > [What's 'fj' distribution? I changed it to 'world'.] > > jbell@spiffy.cybernet.com writes: > >If you aren't tied that tightly to Frame you might > >want to consider Pages. > > Does this mean Pages is shipping now? Last I heard, Pages wasn't > shipping, but the advertisement in NeXTWORLD magazine said it was. No. As I posted the other day, Pages is NOT shipping. They have even stopped promising a date when they WILL ship. -- Gregory H. Anderson | "History is the fiction we invent to Revisionist Autobiographer | persuade ourselves that events are Anderson Financial Systems | knowable and that life has order and greg@afs.com (NeXTmail OK) | direction." -- Calvin & Hobbes, 7/19/93
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) Subject: FAT DarkForest ?? Message-ID: <1993Nov10.153457.23054@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> Sender: news@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (NetNews) Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany Date: Wed, 10 Nov 93 15:34:57 GMT Hi, there were a lot of people that claimed DarkForest as an especially useful tool. Now I would like to run it on my Intel machine. The version found on cs.orst.edu is only a m68k binary. The info panel tells copyright NeXT Inc. Is there anyone at NeXT or elsewhere who could make a fat version ? Gregor -- | Gregor Hoffleit admin MATHInet / contact HeidelNeXT | | MAIL: Mathematisches Institut PHONE: (49)6221 56-5771 | | INF 288, 69120 Heidelberg / Germany FAX: 56-3812 | | EMAIL: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (NeXTmail) |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software From: Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson) Subject: Re: WordPerfect Suspends Work On WordPerfect 6.0 for NeXTSTEP Message-ID: <1993Nov10.145440.6325@afs.com> Sender: greg@afs.com References: <23382@news.duke.edu> Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1993 14:54:40 GMT In article <23382@news.duke.edu> blake015@mc.duke.edu (Denise Blakeley) writes: > Advanced Business Systems has been patiently waiting for WordPerfect > Corporation to send me a beta of WordPerfect 6.0...just a couple of > minutes ago, I received this facsimile from Nathan S. Hatch (Manager, > UNIX Product Marketing for WordPerfect Corporation) > > [munch text of WordPerfect's letter] This is ... difficult ... news, but for people who need cross-platform WordPerfect document compatibility, all is not lost. Please read Anderson Financial Systems' press release (in c.s.n.announce) concerning some new features for our pending word processor, WriteUp. -- Gregory H. Anderson | "History is the fiction we invent to Revisionist Autobiographer | persuade ourselves that events are Anderson Financial Systems | knowable and that life has order and greg@afs.com (NeXTmail OK) | direction." -- Calvin & Hobbes, 7/19/93
From: vamp@wren.acs.csulb.edu (VampLestat) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Q: Configure Terminal.app for white characters on black background? Date: 10 Nov 1993 23:05:57 GMT Organization: Cal State Long Beach Message-ID: <2brs4l$pl0@garuda.csulb.edu> Is it possible to configure Terminal.app to have a black background and a white foreground? The white background wears on my eyes after a long time, and I wanted to know if I could configure a black background, instead of having to pump up the font size. :) -- _O_ Ryan L. Watkins <vamp@beach.csulb.edu> finger for pgp public key | Academic Computing Services - California State University Long Beach | finger me for my current "Depeche Mode Collection For Sale list" Formerly VampLestat at FajitaDIKU, now at 'telnet nots.colorado.edu 4000'
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: sela@iastate.edu (Brian J. Morrison) Subject: Circuit designing software? Message-ID: <CGAvJ2.A4J@news.iastate.edu> Sender: news@news.iastate.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1993 23:49:49 GMT Are there any apps available under NeXTSTEP, particularly, NS 2.1, that could aid me in putting together circuit schematics? Please e-mail replies to sela@iastate.edu. Thanks. Brian -- **********************IOWA***STATE***UNIVERSITY********************** * Brian Morrison sela@iastate.edu (NeXT Mail welcome!) * * -------------------------------------------------------------- * * He who throws mud loses ground. * *********************************************************************
From: mycroft@colourbox.utexas.edu (Alex Currier) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Demo of SoftPC (Windows) not working on my ND. Help? Date: 11 Nov 1993 01:02:34 GMT Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas Message-ID: <2bs2va$a69@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> I've tried running the demo of SoftPC supplied on the 3.1 disk but it doesn't work. I installed it as root and when I run it it asks me to select a drive, I select Windows drive at 13MB and the DOS part comes up fine but when it tries to launch Windows I get the Windows logo and then a notice that Windows is coming up and then it hangs for what seems like way too long. I have a ND system, 16/16/660. Would acute memory shortage cause it to lock up for an extended period of time? Should I just relax and wait? Is Windows just too slow and I'm not used to waiting? Regards, -- ============================================================================== Alex Currier | mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu | Time is just one damn thing after another. NeXTmail capable! | ==============================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: stiv@netcom.com (Stiv D. Ostenberg) Subject: Re: SoftPC for NeXT Intel Message-ID: <stivCGAuLM.JI3@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) References: <1993Nov05.162315.1016@corona.com> <CG50sq.3r7@news.otago.ac.nz> Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1993 23:29:46 GMT alastair@farli.otago.ac.nz (Alastair Thomson) writes: >Kron) writes: >> I think complaints should really be directed toward Insignia. >They're >> the ones who are making you buy a second copy of something you own, >> assuming they are actually distributing vanilla copies of the >Windows >> ..EXE files. Even they, though have a valid reason to charge for >> specialized drivers and increased support costs for configuring >> Windows. >Just one small point, as far as I am aware, what Insignia has done >for both NT and NS, is much more than an emulator, it actaully >re-implements much of Windows for the Un*x like environment. This >apparently includes the Windows GDI (someone may correct me on this). >My understanding is the SoftPC/Intel is a *very* different product to >SoftPC/Motorola, in the same way is Sun's DOS/Windows compatibility >package (whatever it's called) is not the same as the usual >emulators. The only difference between Sun's product and Insignia's >is that Sun reverse engineered the whole thing, whereas Insignia had >a whole lot of help from MediocreSoft (and NeXT of course!) A pretty good synopsis I think. The "help" from Microsoft came in the form of the source code for Windows...... -- Stiv Ostenberg stiv@netcom.netcom.com| Sable, Saltairwise, a Claighmore ---------------------------------------+ inverted Argent, a Rowan Branch Or Tech Support, Insignia Solutions | --<------ ------>-- ---------------------------------------+ Conner MacCiaran
From: agm@doc.ic.ac.uk (Axel G Merk,346H,7541,) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Installing CNews, help appreciated Date: 11 Nov 1993 01:33:53 -0000 Organization: Dept. of Computing, Imperial College, University of London, UK. Distribution: world Message-ID: <2bs4q1$d8h@swan.doc.ic.ac.uk> Hi netters, I want CNews, term and NewsGrazer to work together. I've been able to install term and NewsGrazer and can read news if I directly connect to the news-server from NewsGrazer. (term is a program that allows one to redirect a local port to a remote port; from a standalone system, one can thus pretend to be accessing the newsserver as if the machine was located on the network) Since local calls are expensive here (in London), I want to gather the news with CNews in batches, and then run NewsGrazer. I'm sure someone out there has done this before. If you have, I would appreciate a hand. I don't manage to post news at the moment. Once I set up a term connection and redirect port 119 (nntp), and newsrun, I get the article posted to 'junk' on my local machine only. Following the installation notes of the CNews package of cs.orst.edu, I set the following parameters: The registered domain (the remote end of term) is: dolphin.doc.ic.ac.uk the news server is: news.doc.ic.ac.uk my local machine is: idefix (the name is not mentioned below) cnews, works with either uucp or nntp. The instructions supposingly work for both, but since not everything works together yet, I haven't specified everything correctly. The following files are edited in /usr/local/news/lib: * 'mailname' simply gives my domain name: dolphin.doc.ic.ac.uk * 'mailpaths' gives mail paths from the UUCP backbone to my site. If I'm on the internet, it should simply be the domain name: dolphin.doc.ic.ac.uk * 'organization' is the Organizaton line in news headers. I put a string. * 'whoami' file gives my uucp hostname. "Make shure it's correct." it says - I don't know whether to specify it and if so to what. I also wrote dolphin.doc.ic.ac.uk * 'sys' contains a list of newsgroup hierarchies I receive from the feed. The unmodified file should do for now, I suppose. * 'active' file lists all newsgroups I receive. By default, this includes just about anything out there. I haven't changed it. Finally, it says, that if I'm connected to the internet, or will be serving the machine as a server for a network, nntp is advisable. Using tredir, I can pretend to be on the internet. A nntp server is included in the package, and all that needs to be done to enable it is to add the following lines to the end of the /etc/inetd.conf file: #route nntp packets to the nntpd daemon nntp stream tcp nowait news /usr/local/bin/nntpd nntpd Having done that (and kill -HUP inetd_process_id) - I can no longer redirect port 119 since it is now taken already. Consequently, I commented the line out again. I'm not sure, however, whether cnews knows at this stage that I want it to employ nntp. Thanks for any suggestions. Please email them directly to me. Once I've got this working, I can access postings directly. Axel ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Axel Merk agm@doc.ic.ac.uk phone/fax +44-71-724 9089 -- -- 13 Archery Steps St. George's Fields Albion St London W2 2YF ----- -- "One needs a certain amount of blindness to see perfection" ----- ---------------------------------------------------- Christopher Nuzum ---
From: hurlbut@burgundy.hon.uky.edu (Jesse Hurlbut) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: XMosaic clone for NeXT? Date: 11 Nov 1993 02:29:28 GMT Organization: University of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences Message-ID: <2bs828$ddr@s.ms.uky.edu> I sure wish I could do on my color NeXTStation everything XMosaic lets X-users do. I've been reluctant to load all the X libraries on my machine because of diskspace, but also because I don't use X for anything else. Isn't there a decent clone out there. (I already know about the WorldWideWeb.apps from cern, that's what i use when I need a quick Web fix, but there are so many bells and whistles missing....) Jesse Hurlbut hurlbut@burgundy.hon.uky.edu
From: pkron@corona.com (Peter Kron) Organization: Corona Design, Inc., Seattle, WA Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1993 21:45:24 PST Message-ID: <1993Nov11.054524.1255@corona.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: How to uncompress a .compressed by command-line References: <2brhil$k8i@wave.aoml.erl.gov> From: bakker@cyclon.aoml.erl.gov (Cary Bakker) > I tried to uncompress some files that were compressed > thru the workspace manager to "*.compressed" files. It > supposedly uses the unix compress command, so I tries > uncompress as well as zcat after changing the > ".compressed" extension to ".Z". These were regular > files and not directories, so they were not tar-ed. They're still tar-ed even though they're single files. --- NeXTMail:Peter_Kron@corona.com Corona Design, Inc. P.O. Box 51022 Seattle, WA 98115-1022
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,andi.business From: marketing@nextsrv1.andi.org (Marketing Director) Subject: ANDI to showcase NeXTSTEP software at COMDEX Message-ID: <CGB6n4.7J@nextsrv1.andi.org> Keywords: ANDI,NeXTSTEP,JCIS Sender: usenet@nextsrv1.andi.org (usenet) Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1993 03:49:51 GMT ANDI - the Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International is pleased to announce that it will be showcasing NeXTSTEP applications for Intel processors at the COMDEX show in Las Vegas next week. ANDI will be at the Sands Convention Center, booth S647 with JC Information Systems. The Association promises to have more NeXTSTEP applications up and running than any other booth in the show. For more information on ANDI, NeXTSTEP, or how to have your product shown contact us at: --- Bill Strehl Executive Director ANDI - Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International, Inc. reply to:marketing@nextsrv1.andi.org phone 301-681-0613 fax 301-681-0616 "Take the NeXTSTEP and Keep on Truckin'..."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,andi.business From: marketing@nextsrv1.andi.org (Marketing Director) Subject: Showcase your product to the Government and get 3 more events for free Message-ID: <CGB7I6.EK@nextsrv1.andi.org> Keywords: ANDI, NEXTSTEP Sender: usenet@nextsrv1.andi.org (usenet) Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1993 04:08:27 GMT ANDI will be showcasing NeXTSTEP at the following events: November FedUNIX - Washington, DC - 11/29-12/3 December Meeting Planners International - Anaheim - 12/4-7 Washington Area NeXTSTEP Users Group - Washington, DC - 12/8 January, 1994 International Association of Jazz Educators - Boston - 1/13-15 If you are interested in having your products shown, want to exhibit, or have your literature distributed, let us know. --- Bill Strehl Executive Director ANDI - Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International, Inc. reply to:marketing@nextsrv1.andi.org "Take the NeXTSTEP and Keep on Truckin'..."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore) Subject: Re: Q: Configure Terminal.app for white characters on black background? Message-ID: <CGB6rs.52o@genoa.com> Sender: alex@genoa.com (Alex Blakemore) Organization: Genoa Software Systems References: <2brs4l$pl0@garuda.csulb.edu> Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1993 03:52:40 GMT VampLestat writes > Is it possible to configure Terminal.app to have a black background and a > white foreground? The white background wears on my eyes after a long time, It wears on my eyes too. If you have black hardware, get Stuart.app from the archives and save your eyes some strain, plus get several other niceties, (e.g. scroll from the keyboard) its shareware, but with at a very reasonable cost, esp for students. -- Alex Blakemore alex@cs.umd.edu NeXT mail accepted
From: jhj@daimi.aau.dk (Jens H|rup Jensen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: How to uncompress a .compressed by command-line Date: 11 Nov 1993 08:34:14 GMT Organization: DAIMI, Computer Science Dept. at Aarhus University Message-ID: <2bste6$e7m@belfort.daimi.aau.dk> References: <2brhil$k8i@wave.aoml.erl.gov> Thus spake bakker@cyclon.aoml.erl.gov (Cary Bakker): >I tried to uncompress some files that were compressed thru the workspace >manager to "*.compressed" files. It supposedly uses the unix compress command, >so I tries uncompress as well as zcat after changing the ".compressed" >extension to ".Z". These were regular files and not directories, so they were >not tar-ed. you should try: mv blabla.compressed blabla.tar.Z and then uncompress blabla.tar.Z and final tar xvf blabla.tar and then you are done -- Jens
From: erland@spock.physik.uni-konstanz.de (Erland Wittkoetter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: SMTP, POPserver,... Date: 11 Nov 1993 11:11:52 GMT Organization: University of Constance Message-ID: <2bt6lo$8vv@hermes.uni-konstanz.de> Hey I want to install a POPserver on my NeXTStation. What kind of software do I need, and where do I get it from. Thank you very much. Erland -- -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- Erland Wittkoetter -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_ Uni Konstanz, Dept.of Physics, LS Dehnen, PO.Box 5560, 78434 Konstanz Phone: +(49) 7531-88-3747 FAX. +(49) 7531-88-3888 (priv.) Abendbergweg 7, 78465 Konstanz,Germany, Phone:+(49)7531-43078 E-mail: erland@spock.physik.uni-konstanz.de phwitt@nyx.uni-konstanz.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Frame 4.0. not available on the NeXT Message-ID: <1993Nov11.110630.1842@urz.unibas.ch> From: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (Robert Frank) Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1993 11:06:30 GMT Sender: news@urz.unibas.ch (USENET News System) References: <2boiq2$9g8@mail.Rogers.Com> Distribution: NA Organization: Institut fuer Informatik In article <2boiq2$9g8@mail.Rogers.Com> writes: [...] > I think that if a small number of larger customers committed to buying > Frame if were updated, then it would happen. This would benefit not only > those customers but the entire NeXT community. > > -- > Lyle D. Parkyn (416)250-4810 > lparkyn@corpit.cantel.rogers.com NeXT Mail welcome > Opinions expressed are my own. At a local show I was told by one of the local Frame vendors that Frame wants approx. 1000 definitive orders (non-edu?) before it will consider porting version 4.0 to NeXTSTEP. Can we get that many together? -Robert -- Robert Frank tel. +41 (0)61 321 99 67 Institut fuer Informatik fax +41 (0)61 321 99 15 University of Basel, Switzerland Mittlere Strasse 142 rfc822: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (NeXT mail ok) CH-4056 Basel X400: S=frank;OU=ifi;O=unibas;P=switch;A=arcom;C=ch ( if all fails try frank@urz.unibas.ch )
From: thor@sushi.uib.no Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Canon BJC 600 on NeXTSTEP??? Date: 11 Nov 1993 13:52:27 GMT Organization: University of Bergen, Norway Distribution: world Message-ID: <2btg2r$sga@due.uninett.no> Hi. I'm buying a printer for my NeXT, and have come down to a choice between two printers - the HP DJ550C and Canons new BJC600. They cost the same at the offers I've received. Easy question - does the BJC600 work on NeXTSTEP? Here's why I wonder... I know that there are PD support programs (drivers) for the HP, but the quality of the Canon looks much better, both output, use of ink, and cost per page. I have verified with Canon that the engine is _better_ tha the BJC800 used in the NeXT Color printer. However, although Canon said that the 600's control language was compatible with the 800, they beleive that NeXT has designed their own controller for the NeXT Color printer. I have looked at the printing package and modified a PPD and pmdb file for use with a 600 on a serial port (slow, I know) through the standard NXColorBJ driver. I haven't a printer to try - but if the controller is Canons standard in the NeXT printer, it _should_ work with the 600 as well... So - I _really_ want to buy the Canon. Is there: 1) existing drivers in 3.1, 3.2, or available PD/Shareware to controll this model? 2) anyone out there who has used this printer with NeXTSTEP? 3) anyone out there who knows that a driver is under way? I would buy the printer today and use it in Epson (B/W) compatibility mode for 6 months if I knew a driver was being written... I'd write it myself if I had the faintest idea how to :-) I imagine with all the Intel users getting NeXTSTEP _someone_ must have a BJC600 they have hacked to work with NS, no? Please e-mail replies. Regards, -- Thor Legvold | "This is the strangest life NorNeXT User Group leader | I've ever known..." University of Bergen | -Jim Morrison, The Doors NORWAY | edmtl@edb.uib.no
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: kho@hubble.fokus.gmd.de (Klaus Hofrichter) Subject: Re: Frame 4.0. not available on the NeXT Message-ID: <1993Nov11.142650.11505@fokus.gmd.de> Sender: news@fokus.gmd.de (News system) Organization: GMD-Fokus References: <1993Nov11.110630.1842@urz.unibas.ch> Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1993 14:26:50 GMT In article <1993Nov11.110630.1842@urz.unibas.ch> Frank writes: > At a local show I was told by one of the local Frame vendors that Frame > wants approx. 1000 definitive orders (non-edu?) before it will consider > porting version 4.0 to NeXTSTEP. > ... > Robert Frank tel. +41 (0)61 321 99 67 > Institut fuer Informatik fax +41 (0)61 321 99 15 > University of Basel, Switzerland > Mittlere Strasse 142 rfc822: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (NeXT mail ok) > CH-4056 Basel X400: S=frank;OU=ifi;O=unibas;P=switch;A=arcom;C=ch > ( if all fails try frank@urz.unibas.ch ) With no offer we can't order. My company would need 6 to 10 Frame Licences for NeXT (both black and white). But we need them more ore less now, not with NS4. So I doubt that there is any chance to collect a reasonable number of "orders", and there is nobody who counts... Is there any experience with Frame-4 MIF Files out there? Can I save a Frame-4 doc as Frame-3 MIF (and lose some features, e.g. colors)? - Klaus GMD Fokus (Research Corporation for Mathematics and Data Processing) Klaus Hofrichter Hardenbergplatz 2 D-10623 Berlin Germany E-Mail smtp kho@fokus.gmd.de (preferred) E-Mail X.400 <S=hofrichter;OU=fokus;OU=berlin;P=gmd;A=d400;C=de> Voice +49 30 254 99 211 NeXT,Openwin 3.x and MIME mail ok
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: coconut@crash.cts.com (Brian Dear) Subject: Re: Frame 4.0. not available on the NeXT Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA Date: 11 Nov 93 07:14:25 PST Message-ID: <1993Nov11.071425.21297@crash> References: <1993Nov11.142650.11505@fokus.gmd.de> Klaus Hofrichter (kho@hubble.fokus.gmd.de) wrote: : In article <1993Nov11.110630.1842@urz.unibas.ch> Frank writes: : > At a local show I was told by one of the local Frame vendors that Frame : > wants approx. 1000 definitive orders (non-edu?) before it will consider : > porting version 4.0 to NeXTSTEP. : > ... : > Robert Frank tel. +41 (0)61 321 99 67 : > Institut fuer Informatik fax +41 (0)61 321 99 15 : > University of Basel, Switzerland : > Mittlere Strasse 142 rfc822: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (NeXT mail ok) : > CH-4056 Basel X400: S=frank;OU=ifi;O=unibas;P=switch;A=arcom;C=ch : > ( if all fails try frank@urz.unibas.ch ) : : With no offer we can't order. : : My company would need 6 to 10 Frame Licences for NeXT (both black and : white). But we need them more ore less now, not with NS4. So I doubt that : there is any chance to collect a reasonable number of "orders", and there : is nobody who counts... : : Is there any experience with Frame-4 MIF Files out there? Can I save a : Frame-4 doc as Frame-3 MIF (and lose some features, e.g. colors)? : : - Klaus : : GMD Fokus (Research Corporation for Mathematics and Data Processing) : Klaus Hofrichter Hardenbergplatz 2 D-10623 Berlin Germany : E-Mail smtp kho@fokus.gmd.de (preferred) : E-Mail X.400 <S=hofrichter;OU=fokus;OU=berlin;P=gmd;A=d400;C=de> : Voice +49 30 254 99 211 NeXT,Openwin 3.x and MIME mail ok Our company would order 3-4 copies but we need support for NS3.2. We won't wait until NS4.0, and I think Frame knows that. I think this is a pretty lame offer. I think if they said they'd port Frame4 to NS3.2 (Black & White HW) they'd get a lot of orders. Our check is right here, Frame. Come and get it. - brian dear - coconut computing, inc. - brian@coconut.com -
From: agm@doc.ic.ac.uk (Axel G Merk,346H,7541,) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: c-news source code: where? Date: 11 Nov 1993 15:40:42 -0000 Organization: Dept. of Computing, Imperial College, University of London, UK. Distribution: world Message-ID: <2btmdq$8ed@swan.doc.ic.ac.uk> Supposingly, the source code for c-news is on uunet.uu.net. I can't seem to ftp to this address, it seems. Has the address changed? If you know where I can find the source code to c-news, please let me know (by email). Thanks, axel p.s. I know there's a compiled version for the NeXT on cs.orst.edu, but I need the source code. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Axel Merk agm@doc.ic.ac.uk phone/fax +44-71-724 9089 -- -- 13 Archery Steps St. George's Field Albion St London W2 2YF -- -- "One needs a certain amount of blindness to see perfection" -- ---------------------------------------------------- Christopher Nuzum ---
From: agm@doc.ic.ac.uk (Axel G Merk) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: uunet.uu.net location Date: 11 Nov 1993 15:45:00 GMT Organization: Department of Computing, Imperial College, University of London, UK. Distribution: world Message-ID: <2btmls$9ti@frigate.doc.ic.ac.uk> References: <2btmdq$8ed@swan.doc.ic.ac.uk> I believe one used to be able to ftp to uunet.uu.net? It does not seem to work for me. Please tell me if you know an alternate address. Thanks axel ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Axel Merk agm@doc.ic.ac.uk phone/fax +44-71-724 9089 -- -- 13 Archery Steps St. George's Fields Albion St London W2 2YF -- -- "One needs a certain amount of blindness to see perfection" -- ---------------------------------------------------- Christopher Nuzum ---
From: sam_s@NeXT.com (Sam Streeper) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Disk file fragmentation in UNIX Date: 9 Nov 1993 02:32:33 GMT Organization: NeXT, Inc. Message-ID: <2bmvg1$2kv@rosie.next.com> References: <1993Nov7.231501.1167@kurt.in-berlin.de> gerald@kurt.in-berlin.de (Gerald Erdmann) writes: > c_avery@rsgreet.andi.org (Christopher Avery) writes: > > I just got a SunWorld magazine with an article > > that says UNIX files do fragment just like DOS files and a company by > the > > name of Eagle Software is selling the utility to fix that. Hopefully > > someone with greater knowledge of the Mach file system will read that > > article and pass on some definitive info. > > Sorry, but mach WILL DO THAT FOR YOU! If you run fsck mostly you'll get a > fragmentation <1%! Believe it! This comes up from time to time. The Berkeley fast file system (used by NeXT and most other un*x vendors) will write unfragmented files whenever it can. If you keep "some" amount of space on your disk free, then your file system will stay fast and happy. Files that you write while the disk is nearly full may be fragmented; they will defragment the next time you re-write them if the file system has adequate free contiguous space. -sam ps maybe you can use this to justify a PO for a bigger disk 8^) -- Opinions expressed herein are not those of my employer. They're not even mine. They're probably wrong besides. How did they get in here, anyway?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: esprit@netcom.com (Alan F. Perry) Subject: Re: Frame 4.0. not available on the NeXT Message-ID: <espritCGC47A.Kos@netcom.com> Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest) References: <1993Nov11.110630.1842@urz.unibas.ch> <1993Nov11.142650.11505@fokus.gmd.de> Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1993 15:54:46 GMT In article <1993Nov11.142650.11505@fokus.gmd.de> kho@hubble.fokus.gmd.de (Klaus Hofrichter) writes: >In article <1993Nov11.110630.1842@urz.unibas.ch> Frank writes: >> At a local show I was told by one of the local Frame vendors that Frame >> wants approx. 1000 definitive orders (non-edu?) before it will consider >> porting version 4.0 to NeXTSTEP. >> ... >> Robert Frank tel. +41 (0)61 321 99 67 >> Institut fuer Informatik fax +41 (0)61 321 99 15 >> University of Basel, Switzerland >> Mittlere Strasse 142 rfc822: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (NeXT mail ok) >> CH-4056 Basel X400: S=frank;OU=ifi;O=unibas;P=switch;A=arcom;C=ch >> ( if all fails try frank@urz.unibas.ch ) > >With no offer we can't order. > >My company would need 6 to 10 Frame Licences for NeXT (both black and >white). But we need them more ore less now, not with NS4. So I doubt that >there is any chance to collect a reasonable number of "orders", and there >is nobody who counts... This is the answer that I got from Frame Tech Support on the question of FM4 support for Black hardware: We do support our existing users who purchased FrameMaker for NeXT. It is doubtful that FM4 will be released for NeXT Black Box although we continue to evaluate the market potential of NeXTSTEP on other hardware platforms. Just one more data point on the subject. -- ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Alan F. Perry | Life is short, but by achieving greater speeds esprit@netcom.com (home) | a man can make his life a little longer and allan@lynx.com (work) | more affluent - Soichiro Honda
From: blake015@mc.duke.edu (Denise Blakeley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Opener.app Message-ID: <23492@news.duke.edu> Date: 11 Nov 93 16:32:06 GMT References: <1993Nov9.235042.954@rbc.uucp> Sender: news@news.duke.edu Al Davis writes > >> I have a bunch of files archived with xxx.tar.gz that are supposively > >> decompressible with Opener.app, but it won't recognise them. > >> Any suggestions? > > > >Which version of Opener are you running? The earliest version that handled gz > >files was 3.0; the latest version is 3.1.1. > > > It will handle anything you want if you edit the file "Opener.table". Not entirely true. You also need to stick the proper utility executable inside the app wrapper. Denise -- Denise Blakeley | PROGRAM, tr. v., An activity similar Duke Med Center Info Systems | to banging one's head against a wall, Durham, NC | but with fewer opportunities for (919) 286-6468 W | reward. blake015@mc.duke.edu | NeXTMail welcome!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: michal@gortel (Michal Jaegermann) Subject: Re: How to uncompress a .compressed by command-line Message-ID: <1993Nov11.182328.5931@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada References: <2brhil$k8i@wave.aoml.erl.gov> Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1993 18:23:28 GMT Cary Bakker (bakker@cyclon.aoml.erl.gov) wrote: : : I tried to uncompress some files that were compressed thru the workspace : manager to "*.compressed" files. It supposedly uses the unix compress command, : so I tries uncompress as well as zcat after changing the ".compressed" : extension to ".Z". These were regular files and not directories, so they were : not tar-ed. : : What did I miss and how do I do it? : You do not need to change names for zcat, since zcat does not care about such details. ".compressed" is always "tar-ed". Therefore the simplest command line method to unpack such files is: zcat file.compressed | tar -xf - You may use '-xvf' for tar options to get an info about what is happening. --mj
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: gary@nshade.uah.ualberta.ca (Gary Ritchie) Subject: Re: How to uncompress a .compressed by command-line Message-ID: <1993Nov11.182555.6031@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada References: <2bste6$e7m@belfort.daimi.aau.dk> Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1993 18:25:55 GMT > you should try: > mv blabla.compressed blabla.tar.Z > and then > uncompress blabla.tar.Z > and final > tar xvf blabla.tar > and then you are done > Actually, I think that last step should be: gnutar xvf blabla.tar This only matters if the tar file contains really long path names (as often happens with NEXT apps). -- Gary Ritchie : NeXT Programmer Department of Medicine (Neurology) : University of Alberta Hospital gary@uaneuro.uah.ualberta.ca : NEXTMAIL Welcome (403) 492-8648
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software From: crespo@vcd.hp.com (Ivan Crespo) Subject: Re: Canon BJC 600 on NeXTSTEP??? Sender: news@vcd.hp.com (News user) Message-ID: <CRESPO.93Nov11115653@hpvclic.vcd.hp.com> In-Reply-To: thor@sushi.uib.no's message of 11 Nov 1993 13:52:27 GMT Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1993 19:56:52 GMT References: <2btg2r$sga@due.uninett.no> Organization: Hewlett-Packard VCD > I'm buying a printer for my NeXT, and have come down to a choice > between two printers - the HP DJ550C and Canons new BJC600. > They cost the same at the offers I've received. > > Easy question - does the BJC600 work on NeXTSTEP? Here's why > I wonder... > > I know that there are PD support programs (drivers) for the HP, > but the quality of the Canon looks much better, both output, > use of ink, and cost per page. Well, the BJC600 is a very nice color printer. But in my opinion, Canon compromised black print quality in order to get good results with color. The HP 550C, on the other hand, gives you very good color without compromising black only output. So I would say that if you need only a color printer, buy the BJC600, but if you want a color printer that will also give you good black print quality then take another look at the DJ550C. Another option would be the DJ1200C which is a great color printer with great black print quality and it supports Postscript.. i. -- PS. I tried to make a fair comparison, but of course I am very biased... I work for HP, AND I worked on the HP550C.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller) Subject: Re: Why is Outgoing MBox 1.3 megs? References: <1993Nov4.071417.3499@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller) Organization: Gerhard Moeller, German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg. Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1993 08:45:39 GMT Message-ID: <1993Nov11.084539.2988@proximus.north.de> In article <1993Nov4.071417.3499@leland.Stanford.EDU> cew@quark.Stanford.EDU (Carlin E. Wiegner) writes: > I think some programs I NeXTMailed are still in there...How can I > delete them? > CW After you delete mails in any mbox, you have to "compress" (Cmd-k) the mbox. Otherwise the mails are just marked to be deleted. -- +---------------------------< principiis obsta! >---------------------------+ N Gerhard Moeller, Hetzg. 32/11, A-1030 Wien (Austria) [*: 02/21/1968] N e Private: gemoe@proximus.north.de Phone (voice): +43-1-7151531 e X Uni: Gerhard.Moeller@arbi.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE NeXTmail X T Z-Net: Gerhard.Moeller@uniol.zer encouraged! T +-> NoGeNUG - Northern German NeXT User Group: NoGeNUG@proximus.north.DE <-+
From: mconners@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael R Conners) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Rocks1.8 question... Date: 11 Nov 1993 21:28:50 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <2buaqi$shb@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> I just got Rocks1.8 - is there a way to um...."cheat" with the settings - i.e. secret mouse clicks? thanks... -- *** Michael Conners - THE Ohio State University *** ** Compare and Contrast: ** Carter Administration Clinton Administration - Elvis dead - Barbra Streisand all too lively
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: hj@bach (Henrique Joao Lopes Domingos) Subject: Conversion PostScript<-> gifs Message-ID: <1993Nov11.162355.5178@fct.unl.pt> Sender: news@fct.unl.pt (USENET News System) Organization: Universidade Nova de Lisboa, PORTUGAL Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1993 16:23:55 GMT Hello. I am locking for an application to convert between postscript images and gifs. Does anyone know something to do this conversion ? ThankX in advance My Email: hj@fct.unl.pt _________ --------- |____________________________________ | = = |-----------------------------------|| | |__| | Henrique Joao L. Domingos || | |Joao | hj@fct.unl.pt || | = = |-----------------------------------| --------- --------------------------------------------------------------- Dep. de Informatica - Fac. de Ciencias e Tecnologia Universidade Nova de Lisboa - Monte da Caparica ---------------------------------------------------------------
From: brunkhorst@mayo.edu (Geoff Brunkhorst) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: WordPerfect Date: 11 Nov 1993 21:58:59 GMT Organization: Mayo Foundation Distribution: world Message-ID: <2bucj3$k4d@fermat.mayo.edu> References: <2bu8of$g26@news.u.washington.edu> In article <2bu8of$g26@news.u.washington.edu> bassuk@stein3.u.washington.edu (James Bassuk) writes: > Is there a mailing address for WP's Unix Marketing Group that we can > write to? Unix Marketing Manager WordPerfect Corporation 1555 North Technology Way Orem UT 84057 - Geoff ----------------------------------------------------------------- Geoffrey Brunkhorst brunkhorst@Mayo.edu Research Computing Facility, Guggenheim 10 (507) 284-1805 Mayo Foundation, Rochester MN, 55905, USA fax (507) 284-5231
From: bassuk@stein3.u.washington.edu (James Bassuk) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: WordPerfect Date: 11 Nov 1993 20:53:35 GMT Organization: University of Washington Message-ID: <2bu8of$g26@news.u.washington.edu> References: <1993Oct29.191752.5996@cs.yale.edu> <2asabr$ep9@fermat.mayo.edu> brunkhorst@mayo.edu (Geoff Brunkhorst) writes: >Officially WP has nevered stated a delivery date for an upgrade beyond >WP 1.0 (1.0.1 is a bug-fix, in their eyes, and never added features) >I talked with WP today, and yes, they are looking for people to write >their Unix Marketing Group to solicit WP to change their mind and >continue work on WP 6.0 on the NeXT. Is there a mailing address for WP's Unix Marketing Group that we can write to? ******************************************************** Jim Bassuk, Ph.D. Dept. Biological Structure, Univ. of Washington NetworkAddress: Bassuk@U.Washington.Edu 'Did I say what I meant or did I mean what I said?' ********************************************************
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: aba@netcom.com (Alan Atlas) Subject: Intel OnDuty -- When? Message-ID: <abaCGCFEn.AHA@netcom.com> Sender: Alan Atlas Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1993 19:56:46 GMT Hi. Just wondering if anybody knows if and when we might see an Intel version of OnDuty from DIT. Also, whether or not they will be adding a monthly view calendar any time soon. Thanks. alan -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Alan Atlas (714)707-5705 aba@netcom.com NEXTMail to alan@sarrus.com --------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: cleelacj@agedwards.com (Chris Cleeland) Subject: Re: Middle button for X? Message-ID: <CGCE7y.L1M@agedwards.com> Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1993 19:31:10 GMT References: <2bo67g$bju@skates.gsfc.nasa.gov> Organization: A. G. Edwards & Sons, Inc. Robert F. Cahalan (cahalan@clouds.gsfc.nasa.gov) wrote: : In article <1993Nov8.220100.56164@gmuvax> writes: : > Where is the middle button of mouse with mouseX? : > What the combination should I use to emulate the middle button.... : > need help.. : > : > <Soonam> : To change [mouse button behavior], : go into Preferences (double-click the calendar icon), select the leftmost : "mouse" icon, and under mouse preferences you'll see that "menu button" is : disabled. Select "enabled" and "right". Reboot to make this take effect. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Really, there is no need for so drastic an action to make this "stick". You can simply log out and log back in. If, however, you have the 'me' account as boxes come set up, then you will probably need to reboot Or, can you just quit the Workspace Manager and go from there... -cj -- ============================================================================== Chris Cleeland | NeXTMail: chris@milo.st-louis.mo.us BOS Dev. Team | MIMEMail: cleeland@agedwards.com | BellNet: (314) 289-5372
From: sowa@amdew.llnl.gov (Erik C. Sowa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Opener.app Date: 11 Nov 1993 22:10:45 GMT Organization: LLNL Chemistry and Materials Science Message-ID: <SOWA.93Nov11141045@amdew.llnl.gov> References: <1993Nov9.235042.954@rbc.uucp> <23492@news.duke.edu> In-reply-to: blake015@mc.duke.edu's message of 11 Nov 93 16:32:06 GMT >>>>> "Denise" == Denise Blakeley <blake015@mc.duke.edu> writes: >> It will handle anything you want if you edit the file "Opener.table". Denise> Not entirely true. You also need to stick the proper utility Denise> executable inside the app wrapper. Or tell Opener.table the full path name if you prefer to keep the executable elsewhere... -- erik sowa (sowa@amdew.llnl.gov)
From: lparkyn@saturn (Lyle Parkyn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Frame 4.0. not available on the NeXT Date: 11 Nov 1993 19:51:10 GMT Organization: Rogers Communications Distribution: NA Message-ID: <2bu53e$7p@mail.Rogers.Com> References: <1993Nov11.110630.1842@urz.unibas.ch> In comp.sys.next.software article <1993Nov11.110630.1842@urz.unibas.ch> you wrote: > In article <2boiq2$9g8@mail.Rogers.Com> writes: > At a local show I was told by one of the local Frame vendors that Frame > wants approx. 1000 definitive orders (non-edu?) before it will consider > porting version 4.0 to NeXTSTEP. > > Can we get that many together? > I think that the demand is probably there, or pretty close. The problem is getting the decision makers to overcome their fear of "buying something that won't be around next year or buying that which few others are buying". The herd instinct is very strong in business, particularly when it comes to computer technology- safety in numbers etc.. I am sure that Frame requires even fewer orders to justify an Intel port of the existing Frame version. It's hard to understand buyers fears about Frame. It's not like this is a product that only runs on NeXTSTEP. If you're a Frame shop already (or even if you aren't) so what if you can't get Frame anymore on a particular OS. Frame on other OSs and even later versions of Frame will still read Frame documents. So why worry about the NeXTSTEP version dying out. It becomes a self-fulfilling prophesy "I'am afraid to buy Frame for NeXTSTEP because they might not produce the future versions". Buy it now and reap the benefits for a year or two, by then there be so many changes in technology that the latest version of an application will be a minor worry. Word Perfect is suffering from similar problems -- Lyle D. Parkyn (416)250-4810 lparkyn@corpit.cantel.rogers.com NeXT Mail welcome Opinions expressed are my own.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: john@slinky.bsd.uchicago.edu (John Lodder) Subject: Re: uunet.uu.net location Message-ID: <1993Nov11.221857.29913@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@uchinews.uchicago.edu (News System) Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic & Public Computing References: <2btmls$9ti@frigate.doc.ic.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1993 22:18:57 GMT In article <2btmls$9ti@frigate.doc.ic.ac.uk> agm@doc.ic.ac.uk (Axel G Merk) writes: > > I believe one used to be able to ftp to uunet.uu.net? It does not seem > to work for me. Please tell me if you know an alternate address. > > Thanks > > axel try ftp.uu.net --or-- (if you're looking for usenet comp.sources.* archives) ftp gatekeeper.dec.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: nico@imani.cam.org (Nicolas Dore) Subject: Re: Frame 4.0. not available on the NeXT Message-ID: <1993Nov11.232800.17027@imani.cam.org> Sender: nico@imani.cam.org References: <1993Nov11.071425.21297@crash> Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1993 23:28:00 GMT In article <1993Nov11.071425.21297@crash> coconut@crash.cts.com (Brian Dear) writes: > Klaus Hofrichter (kho@hubble.fokus.gmd.de) wrote: > : In article <1993Nov11.110630.1842@urz.unibas.ch> Frank writes: > : > At a local show I was told by one of the local Frame vendors that Frame > : > wants approx. 1000 definitive orders (non-edu?) before it will consider > : > porting version 4.0 to NeXTSTEP. > : > ... > : > Robert Frank tel. +41 (0)61 321 99 67 > : > : With no offer we can't order. > : > : My company would need 6 to 10 Frame Licences for NeXT (both black and > : white). But we need them more ore less now, not with NS4. So I doubt that ^^^ > : there is any chance to collect a reasonable number of "orders", and there > : is nobody who counts... > : > : - Klaus > > > Our company would order 3-4 copies but we need support for NS3.2. > We won't wait until NS4.0, and I think Frame knows that. I think ^^^^^ > this is a pretty lame offer. I think if they said they'd port > Frame4 to NS3.2 (Black & White HW) they'd get a lot of orders. > Our check is right here, Frame. Come and get it. > > - brian dear - coconut computing, inc. - brian@coconut.com - Let's read the top part again... it's FM that's at 4.0, not NS! Frame won't port an old version of FM to anything, it would be highly stupid. They would want to port the latest version, 4.0, to whichever NS is available at the time (3.2, or later, depending on the release date...). Now, let's get on with this thread... Ciao -- Nicolas Dore nico@imani.cam.org - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > "Le calembour est la fiente du mot qui vole." < > Victor Hugo <
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: kho@hubble.fokus.gmd.de (Klaus Hofrichter) Subject: Re: Frame 4.0. not available on the NeXT Message-ID: <1993Nov12.094418.21186@fokus.gmd.de> Sender: news@fokus.gmd.de (News system) Organization: GMD-Fokus References: <1993Nov11.232800.17027@imani.cam.org> Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1993 09:44:18 GMT Nicolas Dore (nico@imani.cam.org) writes: >> Klaus Hofrichter (kho@hubble.fokus.gmd.de) wrote: >>: My company would need 6 to 10 Frame Licences for NeXT (both black and >>: white). But we need them more ore less now, not with NS4. ... > ^^^ ..[stuff deleted] > Let's read the top part again... it's FM that's at 4.0, not NS! The characters "NS4" refer to some day in the future, more than XYZ month away, where NeXTSTEP 4.x is released. They should read like "a-sunny-day-which-is-not-announced-jet". It was not my intention to raise a discussion about the availability of NeXTSTEP4.x for this topic. The problem with Frame is, that people do not stop working while waiting for a piece of software, especially, if it is not announced. So, till the end of this year we have to decide about our inhouse strategy for textprocessing in our multi-vendor environment (Mac, Sun/Solaris, NeXTSTEP, PC/Windows): (a) drop Frame, (b) drop NeXT or (c) stay with Frame3 for (a) we need an alternative for (b) we need 10 new workstations for (c) we need ... well, why not? Any suggestions? - Klaus ******************************************************************** GMD Fokus (Research Corporation for Mathematics and Data Processing) Klaus Hofrichter Hardenbergplatz 2 D-10623 Berlin Germany E-Mail smtp kho@fokus.gmd.de (preferred) E-Mail X.400 <S=hofrichter;OU=fokus;OU=berlin;P=gmd;A=d400;C=de> Voice +49 30 254 99 211 NeXT,Openwin 3.x and MIME mail ok Fax +49 30 254 99 202 There is a re-examination, but no re-party ********************************************************************
From: jhj@daimi.aau.dk (Jens H|rup Jensen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Program from NS 2.1 (or 2.2) wanted! Date: 12 Nov 1993 10:07:51 GMT Organization: DAIMI, Computer Science Dept. at Aarhus University Message-ID: <2bvn9n$gmc@belfort.daimi.aau.dk> Keywords: 2.1 2.2 wanted software Hi, I remember a program in NeXTSTEP 2.1 (or 2.2) which was a scanner program and a simple pixel editing program, which could change the gamma curves for R,G and B. If anyone has the program, I would be very happy if he/she mailed it (NeXTmail Ok) to me. Thanks in advance -- Jens
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: celia@tuba.music (Celia Duffy) Subject: NoteAbility from Ciusa Inc Message-ID: <CGDIA6.I7K@udcf.glasgow.ac.uk> Sender: news@udcf.glasgow.ac.uk Organization: Glasgow University Computing Service Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1993 09:56:29 GMT Does anyone know the postal address of the company Ciusa Inc which produces the music notation software NoteAbility? Their e-mail address won't work and phoning is too expensive from Scotland! Also has anyone used NoteAbility? Thanks Celia
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bauer@galilei.lbm.mw.tu-muenchen.de (Sebastian Bauer) Subject: Mouse-X (mono): possibility to get window-depth=8 ? Message-ID: <1993Nov12.134536.27970@news.lrz-muenchen.de> Sender: news@news.lrz-muenchen.de (Mr. News) Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany) Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1993 13:45:36 GMT Hi, I would like to use my NeXT (black, Turbo-Mono) with the X-windows server Mouse-X to display programs that need a window depth of 8. In the moment, these programs crash with the message: WiX Bug in wx_init_cmap: Unimplemented feature: depth=2. Is there any possibility to make the programs believe, that there is a window server that allows a window depth of 8? Currently xdpyinfo shows: [...] supported pixmap formats: depth 1, bits_per_pixel 1, scanline_pad 32 depth 2, bits_per_pixel 2, scanline_pad 32 [...] Thank you very much for any help, Sebastian -- Sebastian Bauer <bauer@lbm.mw.tu-muenchen.de> (NeXTmail welcome) Institute B for Mechanics (Prof. F. Pfeiffer) Technical University Munich, Germany
From: agm@doc.ic.ac.uk (Axel G Merk,346H,7541,) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cnews/inews Date: 12 Nov 1993 14:39:50 -0000 Organization: Dept. of Computing, Imperial College, University of London, UK. Message-ID: <2c077m$fm4@swan.doc.ic.ac.uk> I want to use a combination of term, slurp, cnews and newsgrazer to get a newsfeed for selected articles at home. term is a program setting up a slip-like connection which lets one redirect ports. slurp fetches news selectively from a news-server. cnews, newsgrazer: you know (maybe the other ones, too, but they are not causing the problem). So far, I can receive articles at home, but are far from posting any. To receive articles, I: * log on to my internet account (agm@dolphin.doc.ic.ac.uk) * start term and redirect my home port 119 to news.doc.ic.uk:119 * issue a 'slurp localhost' command and slurp accesses the redirected local news-port to fetch the most recent postings of newsgroups specified in a file slurp.sys * I run NewsGrazer which reads from the flat files positioned by slurp. I also compiled c-news.tar.Z from ftp.uu.net (I couldn't use the precompile version that's on the net because slurp requires a library, 'dbz', that was not provided). When I post an article to, say, comp.sys.next.bugs (unmoderated) using NewsGrazer, it is correctly fed to inews. Inews, however, never forwards it to relaynwes (no error messages). If I feed relaynews manually with the output of 'injnews -N <article' then the article is placed into /usr/spool/news/comp/sys/next/bugs. It is not placed in any directory of /usr/spool/news/out.going/aHost, where aHost should be a host specified in /usr/local/lib/news/sys. I want to achieve the following: 1) want to invoke inews or injnews and have the article correctly placed in its directory (/usr/spool/news/comp/sys/next/software, working), and /usr/spool/news/out.going/aHost/togo is correctly specified. 2) want to upload stored articles using 'sendbatches' ad 1) The only place I can imagine that needs correction is /usr/local/lib/news/sys. Here's as much info as possibe: permissions: -rw-r--r-- 1 news news 3303 Nov 12 12:32 /usr/local/lib/news/sys I'm not sure which host I have to specify for the uploading. I assume it is localhost, since I will redirect the port of localhost again later to upload the data. I simplified the sys file to have only the following uncommented entries: # note I believe the ME line is irrelevant because I use slurp to download ME:all/all:f localhost:comp.sys.next.bugs/all:Lf: I've reduced /usr/local/lib/news/active to contain only 1 line: -rw-rw-r-- 1 news news 37 Nov 12 13:42 active comp.sys.next.bugs 0000007 0000001 y I haven't quite figured out what I need in mailname, mailpaths and whoami. I believe it should not matter at this stage. mailname: dolphin.doc.ic.ac.uk mailpaths: dolphin.doc.ic.ac.uk (originally, mailpaths was given as: 'all uunet!%s' - do I need the 'all' part?) whoami: dolphin.doc.ic.ac.uk ad 2) is still a way off I will have to edit sendbatches properly. Using the method described above, I believe I could get away with the single entry: # site size queue builder muncher sender # ---- ---- ----- ------- ------- ------ localhost 1000000 20 batcher compcun viauux I'm little concerned whether viauux will work, since the transfer is directly on the internet (using term, the news-server will believe I'm on the network and can act as dolphin.doc.ic.ac.uk). Thanks for any hints - Axel ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Axel Merk agm@doc.ic.ac.uk phone/fax +44-71-724 9089 -- -- 13 Archery Steps St. George's Fields Albion St London W2 2YF -- -- "One needs a certain amount of blindness to see perfection" -- ---------------------------------------------------- Christopher Nuzum ---
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc From: wucolin@popeye.CIS.McMaster.CA (Colin Wu) Subject: Curseperl on NS 3.0: Here's how. Message-ID: <1993Nov12.144242.21222@mcshub.dcss.mcmaster.ca> Sender: usenet@mcshub.dcss.mcmaster.ca Organization: McMaster University, Hamilton, Ontario. Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1993 14:42:42 GMT I've had a number of requests for information since I posted a note asking if anyone had successfully built curseperl under NS3.0, so here's how for those who wanted to know but were afraid to ask: Modify /NextDeveloper/Headers/bsd/curses.h by changing all references to VOID to something else like XVOID, then compile the puppy. That's it. I haven't done any rigorous tests but the demo programs for menu.pl and forms.pl work. -- __ _ _ Colin Wu / ) // ' ) / Network Analyst / __|/ o ____ / / / . . Computing & Information Services (__/ (_) \_<_/ / <_ (_(_/ (_/_ McMaster University (905)525-9140 ext 24050
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Douglas Moore Subject: Remembering SimCity CD Rumors... Message-ID: <CGDyr9.26B@news.cis.umn.edu> Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1993 15:49:31 GMT Does anybody else out there have any curiosity about what happened to this project? Last I heard we were going to get this cool 400Mb game on CD, including imagery, but that must have been a year ago. Is this dead? If so, why and can it be salvaged. -- Douglas Moore 1 GFLOP on the desktop or bust, 172 East Sixth Street #2106 for under $10^4 please. St Paul, MN 55101 (anybody want to donate a T1 line?) moor0002@gold.tc.umn.edu <---NeXTMail via SLIP, send me some!!!
From: statman@stat.ufl.edu (Charles D. Kincaid) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Middle button for X? Date: 12 Nov 1993 15:44:33 GMT Organization: University of Florida Distribution: world Message-ID: <2c0b11INN1i5@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu> References: <CGCE7y.L1M@agedwards.com> In article <CGCE7y.L1M@agedwards.com> cleelacj@agedwards.com (Chris Cleeland) writes: > Robert F. Cahalan (cahalan@clouds.gsfc.nasa.gov) wrote: > : To change [mouse button behavior], > : go into Preferences (double-click the calendar icon), select the leftmost > : "mouse" icon, and under mouse preferences you'll see that "menu button" is > : disabled. Select "enabled" and "right". Reboot to make this take effect. > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > Really, there is no need for so drastic an action to make this "stick". > You can simply log out and log back in. If, however, you have the 'me' > account as boxes come set up, then you will probably need to reboot > Or, can you just quit the Workspace Manager and go from there... > > -cj > -- Hmmm, is even that necessary? I can go to my Preferences and the changes are immediate. I have NS3.1 on a slab. -- Sincerely, charles d. kincaid -------------------------------------------------------------------- Dept. of Statistics 'Damn fine coffee...and hot, too!' Univ. of Florida Pres: G-ville NeXT Users Group
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: ron@jaws.nosc.mil (Ron Broersma) Subject: Re: SMTP, POPserver,... Message-ID: <1993Nov12.162521.15392@nosc.mil> Sender: usenet@nosc.mil (Network News) Organization: NCCOSC RDT&E Division, San Diego, CA References: <2bt6lo$8vv@hermes.uni-konstanz.de> Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1993 16:25:21 GMT > I want to install a POPserver on my NeXTStation. What kind > of software do I need, and where do I get it from. We use the pop3 server from Berkeley on our NS machines. Here's the reference from the README file... The POP server is available via anonymous ftp from ftp.CC.Berkeley.EDU (128.32.136.9, 128.32.206.12). It is in two files in the pub directory: a compressed tar file popper-version.tar.Z and a Macintosh StuffIt archive in BinHex format called MacPOP.sit.hqx. --Ron
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: ron@jaws.nosc.mil (Ron Broersma) Subject: Re: XMosaic clone for NeXT? Message-ID: <1993Nov12.162919.15517@nosc.mil> Sender: usenet@nosc.mil (Network News) Organization: NCCOSC RDT&E Division, San Diego, CA References: <2bs828$ddr@s.ms.uky.edu> Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1993 16:29:19 GMT In article <2bs828$ddr@s.ms.uky.edu> hurlbut@burgundy.hon.uky.edu (Jesse Hurlbut) writes: > I sure wish I could do on my color NeXTStation everything XMosaic lets > X-users do. I've been reluctant to load all the X libraries on my machine > because of diskspace, but also because I don't use X for anything else. > Isn't there a decent clone out there. (I already know about the > WorldWideWeb.apps from cern, that's what i use when I need a quick Web > fix, but there are so many bells and whistles missing....) > > Jesse Hurlbut > hurlbut@burgundy.hon.uky.edu There was some discussion of this a few weeks ago. Because of such great interest in a native mosaic app for NeXT, I believe the CERN folks said they were going to upgrade/replace their old web client with something newer. Sorry, I didn't save the reference. I sure hope someone is working on it. xmosaic 2.0 just came out. It sure is a pain having to run it under X. --Ron
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.comm From: mohenly@malahat.library.uvic.ca (Michael O'Henly) Subject: PPP/SLIP for Mac <-> NeXT... Message-ID: <1993Nov12.161959.9199@sol.UVic.CA> Sender: news@sol.UVic.CA Organization: University of Victoria Date: Fri, 12 Nov 93 16:19:59 GMT I want to create a dialup IP connection between a Mac and a NeXTstation. I have a budget of $0.00 to do this with (sigh)... There's a fair bit of SLIP software on the NeXT side, but I don't think there are any no-cost SLIP tools for the Mac. There is, however, a free PPP package (Merit Network's MacPPP). 1. Is there a PPP server for the NeXT (NeXTstep 3.0)? 2. If not, are you aware of any no-cost SLIP tools for the Mac? Thank you! Michael -- o --/-- __\ Michael O'Henly \ mohenly@malahat.Library.UVic.CA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) Subject: I need some questions answered on features of Gopher and Wais Message-ID: <1993Nov12.155941.4905@weston.com> Sender: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1993 15:59:41 GMT I need to communicate with someone who is very in tune with Gopher and Wais. I do not want to eat up the bandwidth in asking the questions, so if you know alot about either or both of these, and are willing to communicate somewith me over the next few weeks, let me know. Thanks Wes _______________________________________________________ Wes Spears <-------> jspears@weston.com (NeXTMail Welcome) The Weston Group (UUCP and SENDMAIL Consultation) 8524 Highway 6 North, #162 Houston, TX 77095 (713) 827-2650 FAX (713) 856-7851 -- Wes Spears <-------> jspears@weston.com (NeXTMail Welcome) The Weston Group (UUCP and SENDMAIL Consultation) 8524 Highway 6 North, 162, Houston, TX 77095
Newsgroups: uw.next,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next From: fineman@cs.washington.edu (Daniel Fineman) Subject: Installing tcsh on NSFIP 3.1 Message-ID: <1993Nov12.181813.24198@beaver.cs.washington.edu> Sender: news@beaver.cs.washington.edu (USENET News System) Organization: The Heart of the Sun Date: Fri, 12 Nov 93 18:18:13 GMT Here's a problem: I downloaded the source for tcsh-6.01 from somewhere in utah, and compiled it just fine on a black cube running 3.0. I had to copy config/config.bsd to config.h, and change the Makefile to say "CC=cc" and to use the flags for an older version of gcc. Then, i used the exact same Makefile, and un-tarred the source (a clean copy) at my home NSFIP 3.1 machine, and it didn't compile. I had homework to do last night, so i didn't really spend more than a few minutes working on it. does anyone know offhand what would be different for the two machines? I'll post the error messages up (messages that didn't pop up when it was compiled on the black 3.0 machine) later if no one responds... thanx dan
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.comm From: mohenly@malahat.library.uvic.ca (Michael O'Henly) Subject: Re: PPP/SLIP for Mac <-> NeXT... Message-ID: <1993Nov12.184849.13594@sol.UVic.CA> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.comm Sender: news@sol.UVic.CA Organization: University of Victoria References: <1993Nov12.161959.9199@sol.UVic.CA> Date: Fri, 12 Nov 93 18:48:49 GMT I (mohenly@malahat.library.uvic.ca) wrote: > I want to create a dialup IP connection between a Mac and a > NeXTstation. I have a budget of $0.00 to do this with (sigh)... > There's a fair bit of SLIP software on the NeXT side, but I don't > think there are any no-cost SLIP tools for the Mac. There is, however, > a free PPP package (Merit Network's MacPPP). > 1. Is there a PPP server for the NeXT (NeXTstep 3.0)? > 2. If not, are you aware of any no-cost SLIP tools for the Mac? OK. Since posting this, I've learned a bit more... a) Merit.edu (in ~/pub/ppp/) has a lot of PPP stuff and I've taken a scan through some of it. However, it's mostly rocket science to me and I'm not sure it will run on a NeXT. (There is a NeXT hack, but author doesn't promise much, other than that it will probably crash your system...) Is anyone running no-cost PPP server software on a NeXT? b) InterCon offers a free, ftpable SLIP tool for the Mac. It looks like Louis Mamakos' TranSys Dial-Up IP package is the only (free) NeXT-specific SLIP software. Unfortuately, it's a NeXTstep app and since my access to this system is via dialup, I can't run it. So my question should be, is there generic unix SLIP server software that will compile under NS3.0? Thanks again! Michael -- o --/-- __\ Michael O'Henly \ mohenly@malahat.Library.UVic.CA
From: ray@mayo.edu (Ray Ghanbari) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: SMTP, POPserver,... Date: 12 Nov 1993 21:33:46 GMT Organization: Mayo Foundation Distribution: world Message-ID: <2c0vfq$9v2@fermat.mayo.edu> References: <1993Nov12.162521.15392@nosc.mil> In article <1993Nov12.162521.15392@nosc.mil> ron@jaws.nosc.mil (Ron Broersma) writes: > > I want to install a POPserver on my NeXTStation. What kind > > of software do I need, and where do I get it from. > > We use the pop3 server from Berkeley on our NS machines. Here's the > reference from the README file... > > The POP server is available via anonymous ftp from ftp.CC.Berkeley.EDU > (128.32.136.9, 128.32.206.12). It is in two files in the pub directory: > a compressed tar file popper-version.tar.Z and a Macintosh StuffIt archive > in BinHex format called MacPOP.sit.hqx. > > --Ron If you go to Berkeley to try and find this package, you find the following in a README file: The MacPOP distribution is no longer available here. It is no longer used at UC Berkeley, and the author has declared it obsolete. If you are looking for a POP client for the Macintosh, you should consider Eudora. For the latest information about Eudora, send mail to "eudora-info@qualcomm.com" Ken Lindahl lindahl@violet.berkeley.edu Data Communication and Network Services University of California, Berkeley July 13, 1993 -- Ray Ghanbari Mayo Foundation ray@mayo.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jdeclari@is.rpslmc.edu (John-William DeClaris) Subject: Re: X for NeXT Message-ID: <1993Nov12.215954.19843@rpslmc.edu> Sender: news@rpslmc.edu Organization: Rush-Presbyterian-St. Luke's Medical Center References: <2bmrpo$evc@alamut.cognet.ucla.edu> Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1993 21:59:54 GMT I have tried the Dfe.app to run W xindows on the NeXT. I got installed and it runs, quite fast actually. It was weird to see my old X account running on a NeXT. The only problem with it that I see is that if you want to go to NeXT, you have to exit X, and lose any telnets that you had made. We are just looking into this, but is there an application that will run X as an xterm, but still give you NeXT, so that if you are running an application on X, you can go to a NeXT application, and run that at the same time. Sort of like Xterm for Openwindows. If anyone knows of some public domain or even an application that has to be bought, please post. I would be interested in seeing it. Thanks. -- John-William DeClaris All comments made by me are mine and not reflective of RUSH or anyone else... even any spelling errors I most likely made. Live each day as if it were your last, because someday it will be.
From: dekorte@next1.scri.fsu.edu (Stephen Lee Dekorte) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Mac and MS Windows emulators? Date: 12 Nov 1993 22:13:35 GMT Organization: Florida State University Distribution: world Message-ID: <2c11qf$q8l@mailer.fsu.edu> Hi, A friend of mine is deciding between a Mac, PC, or NeXT hardware. He needs to run Quark Express and Photoshop and use a color scanner. I need answers to the following to help him decide: What are the best Mac and MSWindows emulators for NS? Will they run on both Intel and NeXT hardware? Can the Intel floppy drives read NeXT and Mac disks??? Will *all* Mac II software work with the best Mac emulator? Will *all* MS Windows work with the MS Windows emulator? What are the *average* speed differences?(I need a number) Also, Are Image and Virtuoso availible for NS Intel? Thanks for any info, Steve PS. Please respond by email.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: keith@ursa.com (Keith Hollister) Subject: Re: uunet.uu.net location Message-ID: <1993Nov12.204240.287@ursa.com> Sender: keith@ursa.com Organization: Ursa Systems References: <2btmls$9ti@frigate.doc.ic.ac.uk> Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1993 20:42:40 GMT In article <2btmls$9ti@frigate.doc.ic.ac.uk> agm@doc.ic.ac.uk (Axel G Merk) writes: > > I believe one used to be able to ftp to uunet.uu.net? It does not seem > to work for me. Please tell me if you know an alternate address. > ftp.uu.net -- Keith Hollister keith@ursa.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bacchus!eric (Eric Bloom) Subject: Re: Conversion PostScript<-> gifs Message-ID: <1993Nov12.223415.20544@bacchus.com> Sender: eric@bacchus.com Organization: Bacchus, Inc. References: <1993Nov11.162355.5178@fct.unl.pt> Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1993 22:34:15 GMT In article <1993Nov11.162355.5178@fct.unl.pt> hj@bach (Henrique Joao Lopes Domingos) writes: > Hello. > I am locking for an application to convert between postscript > images and gifs. > > Does anyone know something to do this conversion ? > > ThankX in advance > > My Email: hj@fct.unl.pt > > _________ > --------- |____________________________________ > | = = |-----------------------------------|| > | |__| | Henrique Joao L. Domingos || > | |Joao | hj@fct.unl.pt || > | = = |-----------------------------------| > --------- > --------------------------------------------------------------- > Dep. de Informatica - Fac. de Ciencias e Tecnologia > Universidade Nova de Lisboa - Monte da Caparica > --------------------------------------------------------------- Our commercial application, Pixel Magician, can handle this task. You can also scale the PS files ( up to 10,000 points ) and then rasterize into GIF images or any other supported raster format. Pixel Magician can also handle mass conversions, i.e., preset your scaling, quantizing and other parameters, and then perform batch conversions. For more information, please contact: Bacchus, Inc. info@bacchus.com 310 820-9145 310 820-5930 ( fax )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: skwong@cuse1.se.cuhk.hk (Wong Sai Kee (Graduate Assistant)) Subject: Where is the free lunch InstantTeX 3.0 ? Message-ID: <CGEu0n.FoA@sparc15.cs.cuhk.hk> Sender: news@sparc15.cs.cuhk.hk Organization: Engineering Faculty, The Chinese U. of Hong Kong Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1993 03:07:35 GMT I had read an announcements in Aug: > From: dmitri@physics.stanford.edu > Subject: PRESS RELEASE: InstantTeX 3.0 FREE > Date: 1 Aug 1993 18:27:27 -0400 > PALO ALTO, CA - July 28, 1993 - InstantTeX today announced the > release of InstantTeX 3.0 software for NeXT computers which will be > distributed for free. > cs.orst.edu:pub/next/submissions/InstantTeX.tar > or pub/next/binaries/editors/InstantTeX.tar But I can't find it, it is really a free lunch ? Mr.WONG Sai Kee Graduate Student
From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Remembering SimCity CD Rumors... Date: 13 Nov 93 01:52:18 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <jeffo.753155538@uiuc.edu> References: <CGDyr9.26B@news.cis.umn.edu> Douglas Moore writes: >Does anybody else out there have any curiosity about what happened to this >project? I do, but I'm not sure anyone on the net has the authority to talk about what happened to the project. Conversely, someone from Id software says a couple of their games will be released soon (see the original article for details on how soon; I think it was around December). -- J.B. Nicholson-Owens (*NO* NeXTmail please)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bhill@physics.ucla.edu (Brian Hill) Subject: Re: How to uncompress a .compressed by command-line In-Reply-To: gary@nshade.uah.ualberta.ca's message of Thu, 11 Nov 1993 18:25:55 GMT Message-ID: <BHILL.93Nov12182101@sting.physics.ucla.edu> Sender: usenet@physics.ucla.edu Organization: Dept. of Physics, UCLA References: <2bste6$e7m@belfort.daimi.aau.dk> <1993Nov11.182555.6031@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> Date: 12 Nov 93 18:21:01 In article <1993Nov11.182555.6031@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> gary@nshade.uah.ualberta.ca (Gary Ritchie) writes: > > you should try: > > mv blabla.compressed blabla.tar.Z > > and then > > uncompress blabla.tar.Z > > and final > > tar xvf blabla.tar > > and then you are done > > > > Actually, I think that last step should be: > gnutar xvf blabla.tar > This only matters if the tar file contains really long path names > (as often happens with NEXT apps). As long as you are using gnu tar how about condensing the last two steps to tar xvzf blabla.tar.Z
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software From: mohenly@malahat.library.uvic.ca (Michael O'Henly) Subject: Re: SLIP for Mac <-> NeXT... Message-ID: <1993Nov13.020907.2722@sol.UVic.CA> Sender: news@sol.UVic.CA Organization: University of Victoria References: <1993Nov12.161959.9199@sol.UVic.CA> <1993Nov12.184849.13594@sol.UVic.CA> Date: Sat, 13 Nov 93 02:09:07 GMT Michael O'Henly (mohenly@malahat.library.uvic.ca) wrote: > I want to create a dialup IP connection between a Mac and a > NeXTstation. I have a budget of $0.00 to do this with (sigh)... OK. I've made some progress today thanks to one kind soul who pointed out that Louis Mamakos' TranSys Dial-Up IP package _can_ be installed and configured remotely (assuming, of course, one has root privileges -- which I do). I've retrieved the software and now I'd like to set it up. Unfortunately, the docs are in RTF, PS, and WriteNow formats and I'm not making much progress in attempts to decipher them. The configuration I'm after is fairly simple. I want a SLIP connection into the NeXT from my Mac at home. There will only ever be one SLIP line and one user of this setup. I'm not interested in running a client on the NeXT -- only having the server communicate with the client on my Mac. The modems at both ends support hardware handshaking and are already configured. If you have something like this in place and would be willing to some of my questions, I would be most grateful. Also, if you know of any ASCII documentation that would help, I'd appreciate that as well. Michael -- o --/-- __\ Michael O'Henly \ mohenly@malahat.Library.UVic.CA
From: rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us (Bob Peirce #305) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Need help to force a modem to hang up Message-ID: <1993Nov12.134411.10056@investor.pgh.pa.us> Date: 12 Nov 93 13:44:11 GMT Organization: Cookson, Peirce & Co., Pittsburgh, PA I don't suppose this is a problem unique to NeXT, but the solution may be unique. The NeXT machine at home polls the office machine to transfer mail. If the office hangs up, so will the NeXT. However, if any job is running that connects to that terminal, it doesn't disconnect. It puts up a new login message. This causes the phone connection to be maintained until somebody discovers it and cycles the modem off-on. The office machine is a SysV Rel.2.2 machine if that matters, My question is: Can somebody provide a piece of software or make a suggestion for a command I can add to my polling script that will force a disconnect at the NeXT end after the poll is complete? On SysV, I have used cu to establish a connectin to a modem so I can send a +++ and an ath. However, NeXT's cu is not the same and tip cannot be run from a script. It needs a terminal connmection. I tried saying echo -n '+++' > /dev/cua sleep 3 echo ath > /dev/cua This does not work either. Nor does it work using the system function from a C program run by root, so it seems like a dead-end. I suspect I will need a small C program to make a connection and hang up the line but I don't know enough about BSD to attempt that. Does anybody have such a program? Thanks. -- Bob Peirce, Pittsburgh, PA rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us 412-471-5320 venetia@investor.pgh.pa.us [NeXT Mail] !uunet.uu.net!pitt!investor!rbp [UUCP]
From: rcfa@cubiculum.com (Ronald C.F. Antony) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Logic font for bus timing diagrams Date: 13 Nov 1993 08:54:37 GMT Organization: NeXT-BUG (NeXT at Brown University Group) Distribution: world Message-ID: <2c27cd$622@tunix.cubiculum.com> Keywords: logic font postscript I have a bunch of documents describing the NBIC and NeXTbus in electronic form. Unfortunately they use for some of the timing diagrams a font called Logic. Does anyone know where to get that font? Any hints are very welcome! -- Ronald ============================================================================== "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man." G.B. Shaw ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ rcfa@cubiculum.com rcfa@ANDI.org rcfa@sleepy.cis.brown.edu | NeXT-mail welcome
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: [Q]termftp ? Message-ID: <1993Nov13.044544.56256@gmuvax> From: skahng@mason1.gmu.edu (Soonam Kahng) Date: 13 Nov 93 04:45:41 -0500 Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, USA Hi.. I installed "term" on NeXTStep3.0 with B/W. It works fine and it's reallt cool progeam. I really like this.!! So, now.. I am internested in using "termftp" that I found when I ftp "term". Unfortunately,there is not NeXT version patches. I am not the guru,either. so, anybody installed "termftp" on your NeXT? Please tell me some way. <Soonam>
From: rcfa@cubiculum.com (Ronald C.F. Antony) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NewsGrazer FAT??? Date: 13 Nov 1993 12:32:26 GMT Organization: NeXT-BUG (NeXT at Brown University Group) Distribution: world Message-ID: <2c2k4q$9cj@tunix.cubiculum.com> Keywords: news NewsGrazer NewsGraszerPro fat mab I have heared that there is a fat version of NewsGrazer, but the one that I found on the archives is not. Am I missing something or am I just badly informed? Also when is NewsGrazerPro supposed to ship? When does/did it go into beta? What added features will it have? What is going to be the price? -- Ronald ============================================================================== "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man." G.B. Shaw ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ rcfa@cubiculum.com rcfa@ANDI.org rcfa@sleepy.cis.brown.edu | NeXT-mail welcome
From: louie@uunet.uu.net (Louis A. Mamakos) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: uunet.uu.net location Date: 13 Nov 1993 12:58:49 -0500 Organization: UUNET Technologies Inc, Falls Church, VA, USA Message-ID: <2c378pINNqis@rodan.UU.NET> References: <2btmdq$8ed@swan.doc.ic.ac.uk> <2btmls$9ti@frigate.doc.ic.ac.uk> The location of UUNET.UU.NET? Why, just down the hall and 'round the corner. >I believe one used to be able to ftp to uunet.uu.net? It does not seem >to work for me. Please tell me if you know an alternate address. Try FTP.UU.NET instead for access to the anonymous FTP archives. For the DNS impaired, the IP address is currently 192.48.96.9. -- Louis A. Mamakos louie@uunet.uu.net UUNET Technologies, Inc. uunet!louie 3110 Fairview Park Dr., Suite 570 Voice) +1 703 204 8000 Falls Church, Va 22042 Fax) +1 703 204 8001
From: briggman@rock.concert.net (David B Briggman -- Personal Account) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: WordPerfect Suspends Work On WordPerfect 6.0 for NeXTSTEP Date: 13 Nov 1993 20:54:33 GMT Organization: CONCERT-Connect Public Access UNIX Message-ID: <2c3hi9$jis@inxs.concert.net> References: <23382@news.duke.edu> <1993Nov10.145440.6325@afs.com> <rawyattCGADDv.Es9@netcom.com> Also, for what it's worth...my Data General rep informed me that WordPerfect Corporation is paid by Data General to keep the product current on it's proprietary platform. While most well-entrenched NeXTSTEP users believe that WordPerfect's Departure from support of the platform is not a big deal, resellers and those trying to get the platform into larger DOS/Windows or Macintosh-based companies will find their efforts will not have just doubled. WordPerfect is a name that users of all platforms recognize while we who introduce NeXTSTEP to new potential users still get - NEC??? WordPerfect has not kept up with the feature set found in the DOS/WINDOWS/ MAC environments (tabling to name just one), however it did work and with the exception of mainly that one feature, cross-platform compatibility was there. In closing, the WordPerfect development team had assured me and most everybody who cared at NeXTworld, that there would be a 6.0, not just a FAT version of 1.0.1. Doesn't anybody find it strange that we hear nothing out of NeXT about this? Dave -- Advanced Business Systems 919.682.8553 19 Joci Court [fax] 919.682.1126 Durham, North Carolina 27704 briggman@rock.concert.net A NeXTSTEP-only Reseller Hardware, Software and Peripherals
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software From: chris@iastate.edu (Chris Wong) Subject: Re: WordPerfect Suspends Work On WordPerfect 6.0 for NeXTSTEP Message-ID: <CGG8yG.BAs@news.iastate.edu> Sender: news@news.iastate.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA References: <23382@news.duke.edu> <1993Nov10.145440.6325@afs.com> <rawyattCGADDv.Es9@netcom.com> <2c3hi9$jis@inxs.concert.net> Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1993 21:27:51 GMT In article <2c3hi9$jis@inxs.concert.net> briggman@rock.concert.net (David B Briggman -- Personal Account) writes: >In closing, the WordPerfect development team had assured me and most >everybody who cared at NeXTworld, that there would be a 6.0, not just a >FAT version of 1.0.1. I wouldn't trust a dishonor company who didn't keep its promise. If WP promised to ship WP 6.0 for NeXTSTEP, it should keep its promise. I guess WP is gonna lose its credit. >Doesn't anybody find it strange that we hear nothing out of NeXT about >this? What can NeXT do about this? Pay WP to release WP6? NeXT would rather save the money for marketing... >Dave >-- >Advanced Business Systems 919.682.8553 >19 Joci Court [fax] 919.682.1126 >Durham, North Carolina 27704 briggman@rock.concert.net >A NeXTSTEP-only Reseller Hardware, Software and Peripherals -- Chris Wong | "Hardware is supposed to serve Software." chris@iastate.edu | Computer Engineering & Computer Science twba8@isuvax.iastate.edu | Iowa State University of Science and Technology
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) Subject: Re: Mac and MS Windows emulators? Message-ID: <1993Nov14.002135.5742@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: Stanford University References: <2c11qf$q8l@mailer.fsu.edu> Date: Sun, 14 Nov 93 00:21:35 GMT Stephen Lee Dekorte writes > A friend of mine is deciding between a Mac, PC, or NeXT hardware. > He needs to run Quark Express and Photoshop and use a color > scanner. I need answers to the following to help him decide: If he HAS to run those specific apps, then he has no choice but to get a Mac. Emulators just won't cut it. If he wants the functionality that these apps offer, then NeXTSTEP might be viable. > What are the best Mac and MSWindows emulators for NS? Will they > run on both Intel and NeXT hardware? Will *all* Mac II software > work with the best Mac emulator? Mac: Executor, from ARDI (email info@ardi.com for info). Runs well on Motorola hw, but does NOT run all Mac apps. On Motorola hw, performance is quite good. I'm not sure if Executor is shipping for Intel yet. I expect performance won't be quite so good. But if anyone can squeeze performance out of an emulator, Cliff Matthews can. So write them and ask your specific questions. I think you'll find them to be brutally honest (a rare and refreshing trait these days); if their software won't do what you want, they'll tell you so. There's also something called DayDream which basically adds Apple ROMs to a NeXTstation and allows it to run as a full-fledged Mac, at better-than-Quadra performance. But apparently there's some unresolved legal problems. > Can the Intel floppy drives read NeXT and Mac disks??? I suppose you meant DOS and Mac, since obviously a floppy drive on a NeXT will read NeXT-format disks. The answer is yes for DOS and yes for HD Mac disks; DD Mac disks can't be read. > Will *all* MS Windows work with the MS Windows emulator? What > are the *average* speed differences?(I need a number) SoftPC is the emulator. All Windows apps that I've tried work. Performance is a little sluggish on Motorola boxes; apparently performance will be quite good in Intel boxes (80-90% native speed is the figure usually cited). So you have a trade-off if you go with NeXT. You can get an original NeXT box and be able to run Mac apps pretty fast but Windows apps somewhat slowly, or get an Intel box and have the reverse. > Are Image and Virtuoso availible for NS Intel? I believe Virtuoso is. Dunno about Image. -- - Stefano Pagiola Food Research Institute, Stanford University spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged) spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
From: russell@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Russell Schulz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.databases.xbase.misc Subject: Re: DBASE style database for Next Message-ID: <931113.092308.4o4.rusnews.w164w@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1993 09:23:08 MST References: <2b7ep5$im8@galaxy.ucr.edu> Organization: Private System, Edmonton, AB, Canada theharv@csld.ucr.edu (Brian Harvey) writes: > Does anyone know if there is a flatfile database for the NeXTs that > uses some sort of procedural language (i.e. DBASE)? or even one for Unix in general? I haven't touched the trivial subset I was working on in months. the `dbf' code was recently posted to comp.sources.*, but it doesn't have a language. and the language I'd already implemented was all of maybe 3 commands. -- Russell Schulz russell@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca ersys!rschulz Shad 86c
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.comm From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) Subject: Re: PPP/SLIP for Mac <-> NeXT... In-Reply-To: mohenly@malahat.library.uvic.ca's message of Fri, 12 Nov 93 18:48:49 GMT To: mohenly@malahat.library.uvic.ca (Michael O'Henly) Message-ID: <CEDMAN.93Nov12231834@capitalist.princeton.edu> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.comm Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University References: <1993Nov12.161959.9199@sol.UVic.CA> <1993Nov12.184849.13594@sol.UVic.CA> Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1993 04:18:34 GMT In article <1993Nov12.184849.13594@sol.UVic.CA> mohenly@malahat.library.uvic.ca (Michael O'Henly) writes: It looks like Louis Mamakos' TranSys Dial-Up IP package is the only (free) NeXT-specific SLIP software. Unfortuately, it's a NeXTstep app and since my access to this system is via dialup, I can't run it. Nonsense. No part of dialupip makes any use of the window manager or the GUI. Of course you can install it even if your only access is via a tty interface. Carl Edman
From: stolcke@ICSI.Berkeley.EDU (Andreas Stolcke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: gcc >2.3.3 on NeXT rel 2.1 ? Date: 14 Nov 1993 02:39:33 GMT Organization: International Computer Science Institute, Berkeley, CA, U.S.A. Message-ID: <2c45p5$t6q@agate.berkeley.edu> gcc 2.3.3 was the last version that compiled out-of-the-box for me on a 68040 NeXT cube running Release 2.1 (no flames please). With 2.4.x and now with 2.5.3 I get messages from the assembler complaining about undefined labels, and the build fails when trying to run the self-compiled enquire program. Are there any patches for this phenomenon out there? Thanks a lot in advance for any hints. (please reply in e-mail). -- Andreas Stolcke stolcke@icsi.berkeley.edu International Computer Science Institute stolcke@ucbicsi.bitnet 1947 Center St., Suite 600, Berkeley, CA 94704 (510) 642-4274 ext. 126
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: eric@whyanext.com (Eric Schwartz) Subject: Sound/mixing software for NS 2.1 Message-ID: <CGGo9H.84w@unix.portal.com> Sender: news@unix.portal.com Organization: Portal Communications Company Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1993 02:58:26 GMT Help! I'm desperately looking for a no-frills (well, maybe a few frills) sound mixing or editing program that will run on NS 2.1 for an emergency project. I'm playing with sndMucker right now, and I also have Mixer from the archives years ago. If anyone has a program that can do both mixing and playlists/transitions (like the sndMucker/Mixer combination sort of can), or anything else that might be useful for stringing together a few sounds, PLEASE let me know right away! Or just go ahead and NeXTmail it to me! I anticipate some, "When are you going to upgrade?" flames, so if you have any tips on upgrading (i.e., backing up my system without a tape drive, obtaining a NS 3.x CD with no money, and installing the new system without any disk space!) I'll appreciate those, too. Thanks, Eric
From: doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu (Douglas Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: X for NeXT Date: 14 Nov 1993 05:12:41 GMT Organization: Center for Computer Music Research and Composition, U.C.S.B. Message-ID: <2c4eo9$sna@hub.ucsb.edu> References: <2bmrpo$evc@alamut.cognet.ucla.edu> <1993Nov12.215954.19843@rpslmc.edu> In article <1993Nov12.215954.19843@rpslmc.edu> jdeclari@is.rpslmc.edu writes: >I have tried the Dfe.app to run W xindows on the NeXT. I got installed and it >runs, quite fast actually. It was weird to see my old X account running on a >NeXT. The only problem with it that I see is that if you want to go to NeXT, >you have to exit X, and lose any telnets that you had made. We are just [ remainder deleted ] You do not have to exit anything to return to NeXTStep from X. The hot key sequence described in the help window merely hides the X root window, leaving everything running just as it was. I assume you mean Xfe.app, not Dfe.app, or is there some other version floating around? -- Douglas Scott | Senior Development Engineer Tel: (805) 893-8352 | Center for Computer Music Research and Composition Internet (NeXTMail ok): | Music Department <doug@ccmrc.ucsb.edu> | University of California, Santa Barbara
From: doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu (Douglas Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mouse-X (mono): possibility to get window-depth=8 ? Date: 14 Nov 1993 05:17:47 GMT Organization: Center for Computer Music Research and Composition, U.C.S.B. Message-ID: <2c4f1r$ss0@hub.ucsb.edu> References: <1993Nov12.134536.27970@news.lrz-muenchen.de> In article <1993Nov12.134536.27970@news.lrz-muenchen.de> bauer@galilei.lbm.mw.tu-muenchen.de (Sebastian Bauer) writes: > >Hi, > >I would like to use my NeXT (black, Turbo-Mono) with the X-windows server >Mouse-X to display programs that need a window depth of 8. In the moment, >these programs crash with the message: > >WiX Bug in wx_init_cmap: Unimplemented feature: depth=2. > >Is there any possibility to make the programs believe, that there is a >window server that allows a window depth of 8? > This would involve substantial changes/additions to the server code. I am not quite enough of an X-pert to do this, especially since I have found few programs that complain, though of course there are a few. You are welcome to work on this yourself -- all the server code changes are public domain, and the patches for the MIT source are available on cs.orst.edu in pub/next/XNeXT. -- Douglas Scott | Senior Development Engineer Tel: (805) 893-8352 | Center for Computer Music Research and Composition Internet (NeXTMail ok): | Music Department <doug@ccmrc.ucsb.edu> | University of California, Santa Barbara
From: a5g192@rick.cs.ubc.ca (Wei-Yuen Tan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: X for NeXT Date: 14 Nov 1993 00:46:16 -0800 Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada Message-ID: <2c4r8oINNkti@gambier.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca> References: <2bmrpo$evc@alamut.cognet.ucla.edu> <1993Nov12.215954.19843@rpslmc.edu> <2c4eo9$sna@hub.ucsb.edu> In article <2c4eo9$sna@hub.ucsb.edu> doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu (Douglas Scott) writes: >You do not have to exit anything to return to NeXTStep from X. The hot key >sequence described in the help window merely hides the X root window, leaving >everything running just as it was. > >I assume you mean Xfe.app, not Dfe.app, or is there some other version >floating around? Seems like you know what you're talking about, so you could probably help me here. I work in a lab with black hardware running OS 2.1 on monochrome monitors. I've downloaded Xfe.app, and tried to run it, but to no avail. The console listings display an error message something like "couldn't find XNeXT- Paste". I downloaded XNeXTPaste, still couldn't start it up. Wierd. Do I have to download the entire XNeXT-complete.tar.Z package and compile it? Do you have any idea where I could find the XNeXT-minimal.tar.Z archive? I'm trying to run xapps of my account which resides on an HP-UX machine.
From: bublitz@mdd.comm.mot.com (Martin Bublitz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Newsgrazer inefficient: always does DNS lookups Date: 14 Nov 1993 09:18:46 GMT Organization: Motorola - Wireless Data Group; Richmond, BC Distribution: na Message-ID: <2c4t5m$7pf@mmddvan.mdd.comm.mot.com> When I start up Newsgrazer over the SLIP link, I am able to read news no problem. It is a super program. However, when specifying the newsserver, I can only choose a machine name - not its internet address. Thus, it seems that each time it needs to look for a message title when doing its initial scan, it looks up the name of the newsserver in the remote DNS - thus getting a message title at a rate of about 1 per second. Is there a way to somehow change this so that it doesn't do the remote DNS lookup each time. Is it possible to have a local DNS name cache on my local system so once it reads a name it doesn't have to during that session anymore. If so, how can I set this up? If it matters, the remote computer is a SparcStation running SunOS 4.1.3. I know this has to be something with NewsGrazer because running XWindows, xrn doesn't take so long. However, I prefer the GUI of NewsGrazer to xrn or xvnews. Thanks, Martin Bublitz
From: don@b62178.student.CWRU.Edu (Donald J. Siegel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXTTeX: 600dpi possible? Date: 14 Nov 1993 19:35:54 GMT Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA) Message-ID: <2c61aq$fdt@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> I'd like to generate 600dpi versions of ComputerModern Math Italic (I use PostScript fonts for text), however, I'm having problems with MakeTeXPK. Here's a sample: ------------------ [b62178]/don/lab3> dvips -D 600 lab3.dvi -o out1 This is dvips 5.51 Copyright 1986, 1993 Radical Eye Software ' TeX output 1993.11.04:1330' -> out1 - MakeTeXPK cmmi10 600 600 magstep\(0.0\) I don't know the mode for 600 Have your system admin update MakeTeXPK dvips: Font cmmi10.400pk at 600 not found; scaling 400 instead. dvips: Such scaling will generate extremely poor output. - MakeTeXPK cmmi9 600 600 magstep\(0.0\) Appending font creation commands to missfont.log ------------------- Later, when I attempt to execute missfont.log, I get: contents of missfont.log: ------------------- MakeTeXPK cmmi10 600 600 magstep\(0.0\) ------------------- as output: ------------------- MakeTeXPK cmmi10 600 600 magstep\(0.0\) I don't know the mode for 600 Have your system admin update MakeTeXPK ------------------- So, what am I doing wrong? Thanks in advance, don...
From: kerry@totara.cs.waikato.ac.nz (Kerry Guise) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Q: Configure Terminal.app for white characters on black background? Date: 14 Nov 1993 19:41:37 GMT Organization: The University of Waikato Message-ID: <2c61lh$7us@thebes.cc.waikato.ac.nz> References: <CGB6rs.52o@genoa.com> In article <CGB6rs.52o@genoa.com> alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore) writes: > VampLestat writes > > Is it possible to configure Terminal.app to have a black background and a > > white foreground? The white background wears on my eyes after a long time, > > It wears on my eyes too. > If you have black hardware, get Stuart.app from the archives > and save your eyes some strain, plus get several other niceties, > (e.g. scroll from the keyboard) > > its shareware, but with at a very reasonable cost, esp for students. > -- > Alex Blakemore > alex@cs.umd.edu NeXT mail accepted However, Stuart.app seems to have a bug in writing to the utmp file (even with the correct Preferences selection). This will of course cause problems with programs such as [ny]talk and many others. I wonder if this has been fixed in a later version ? Kerry Guise
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: grw@oahu.cs.ucla.edu (George Wu) Subject: Printer paper jam problem Distribution: usa Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department Message-ID: <1993Nov12.194024.8674@cs.ucla.edu> Date: Fri, 12 Nov 93 19:40:24 GMT Lately my NeXT laser printer has been printing black streaks on most of the printouts so I cleaned: 1. The toner cartridge wire 2. The transfer wires 3. The transfer guide 4. The discharge pins Now, my printer jams just about all the time. It seems to start to feed paper initially but never gets it under the metal roller inside the printer. The problem seems to be the rubber roller wheel that pulls the paper in from the cassette but I don't see anything wrong with it and I can't see how the cleaning I have don't could have cause this condition. The rare few times that the printer actually prints out anything it always pulls more than 1 sheet of paper through at a time. But the black streaks are gone now. Does anyone know how and what to check to make the paper feeding mechanism is OK ? Any comments and help are greatly appreciated. George
From: wegmann@linguistics.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Frank Wegmann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: SLIP/PPP under NeXTSTEP/Intel? Date: 14 Nov 1993 20:30:04 GMT Organization: Sprachwiss. Institut, Ruhr-Universitaet Bochum Distribution: world Message-ID: <2c64gc$l9q@rubb.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> Keywords: slip,ppp,white hardware I'm looking for a SLIP/PPP version that runs under NeXTSTEP/Intel. Is there a version of the Mamakos package available or am I forced to look for a commercial version (probably Morning Star if at all)? I plan to use it under 3.2 on a NoName486. Are there any restrictions concerning the serial interface? Frank Wegmann --- =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+ Frank Wegmann voice: +49 234 700 24 61 Sprachwiss. Institut fax : +49 234 70 94 137 Ruhr-Universitaet Bochum Internet : wegmann@linguistics.ruhr-uni-bochum.de 44780 Bochum X.400: G=Frank; S=Wegmann; OU1=rz; OU2=ruba; Germany PRMD=ruhr-uni-bochum; ADMD=d400; C=de =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+
From: ndevnani@mcs.dundee.ac.uk (Nigel Devnani) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Next Visual Programming Tool. Date: 14 Nov 1993 20:27:20 GMT Organization: Information Technology Services , Dundee University, Scotland, UK Message-ID: <2c64b8$lgi@dux.dundee.ac.uk> Summary: Visual Programming Tool for Next Keywords: Visual, Hi All, Is there anyone who knows enough about Next to tell me if they have some form of tool for graphically designing code? (Not a user interface builder visual progamming environment). I heard there was perhaps something they have/are working on which allows you to "draw the code" with diagrams (like flow charts) and out pops the code for you. If they do not have such a tool does anyone know if any such thing exists. Many thanks if you can shed some light on this for me. Nigel Devnani, Dept of Maths and Comp. Sci., University of Dundee, Scotland. e:mail ndevnani@uk.ac.dundee.mic
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: skwong@cuse1.se.cuhk.hk (Wong Sai Kee (Graduate Assistant)) Subject: Re: Where is the free lunch InstantTeX 3.0 ? I got it! Message-ID: <CGH949.pB@sparc15.cs.cuhk.hk> Sender: news@sparc15.cs.cuhk.hk Organization: Engineering Faculty, The Chinese U. of Hong Kong References: <CGEu0n.FoA@sparc15.cs.cuhk.hk> Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1993 10:28:56 GMT Thanks to Dmitri Linde. I got it. SK
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore) Subject: Re: Q: Configure Terminal.app for white characters on black background? Message-ID: <CGI6sI.B2H@genoa.com> Sender: alex@genoa.com (Alex Blakemore) Organization: Genoa Software Systems References: <2c61lh$7us@thebes.cc.waikato.ac.nz> Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1993 22:36:18 GMT Kerry Guise writes > However, Stuart.app seems to have a bug in writing to the utmp file (even > with the correct Preferences selection). This will of course cause > problems with programs such as [ny]talk and many others. I wonder if this > has been fixed in a later version ? this is not a bug, just a symptom that Stuart was not correctly installed. writing to utmp requires special privilege - typically requiring the program be setuid root - a security hole. Stuart comes with a small utility in source form called slog. If you make slog setuid root (after inspecting the source for safety) then you can use talk and friends without problem, and not have to make all of Stuart setuid root. this is documented on line -- Alex Blakemore alex@cs.umd.edu NeXT mail accepted
From: bwp@engin.umich.edu (Bruce Wayne Patton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Forth compiler for NeXT? Date: 15 Nov 1993 01:01:02 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor Distribution: world Message-ID: <2c6kceINNc94@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> Is there a Forth compiler (either public domain or commercial) available for Next Motorola hardware? Thanks for any info.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jclippin@nyx10.cs.du.edu (James Clippinger) Subject: Pascal compiler wanted Message-ID: <1993Nov15.035929.6330@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> of Denver for the Denver community. The University has neither control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users. Keywords: pascal Sender: usenet@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu (netnews admin account) Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept. Date: Mon, 15 Nov 93 03:59:29 GMT I'm seeking a freely-available Pascal compiler for the Next. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. ---------- James Clippinger jclip@csnext.colgate.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: gsl@netcom.com (Greg Lindholm) Subject: GIF gamma correction (McFilter & ImageViewer) Message-ID: <gslCGIL96.1p3@netcom.com> Keywords: GIF McFLITER ImageViewer Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1993 03:48:41 GMT I'm trying to view GIF's and I have both ImageViewer and McFilter loaded on my system. I want to use the McFilter's gamma correction because the images look washed-out without it. As soon as I loaded ImageViewer then Preview.app and others started using it's GIF to TIFF service instead of McFilter's. So my GIF's are again washed-out. Question: How do I make Preview.app etc use the McFilter's service instead of the ImageViewer's? (I would also like ImageViewer to use it as well.) The only way I've found so far is to use a .giff extension which is not recognized by ImageViewer but is by McFilter, but I can't double-click the giff's icon because it isn't tied to an app. Also, with ImageViewer and McFilter installed Preview.app can view gif's and jpg's etc but the ToolInspector doesn't list Preview.app how come? Can this be changed? Thanks in advance. Greg Lindholm gsl@netcom.com
From: murao@kobe-u.ac.jp Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: GatorFTP v.1.4 can't run on my white NeXT Message-ID: <murao.93Nov10223057@blueslab> Date: 11 Nov 93 03:30:57 GMT Sender: news@icluna.kobe-u.ac.jp (news-admin) Distribution: comp Organization: Information Processing Center Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 Hi netter, I've got new GatorFTP v1.4 (GatorFTP_NS486_1.4.app.tar.Z), and it can not correctly run on my white NeXT. If there is .gatorftprc (regardless of its version), just when I try to get a file (push "get" button on the window), GatorFTP crash and give out of following error message on the console. ----- Nov 10 22:04:54 blueslab GatorFTP[274]: Assertion failed: Unlocking Focus on wrong View ----- Of course, if there is no .gatorftprc, GatorFTP seems to run correctly. Is this problem occurred only on my NeXT? Has GatorFTP run correctly on your white NeXT? I wonder about a bug of GatorFTP for Intel. Kindly please give me some suggestion about it. Thanks in advance. --- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hajime Murao <murao@kobe-u.ac.jp> -*- NeXTmail gladly accepted !! Graduate School of Science and Technology, Kobe University, Japan Phone 078-881-1212 (ext.2733) / FAX 078-882-4888 / NIFTY NAA01617
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software From: se10@mahler.cefriel.it (Fabiano Cattaneo) Subject: WD8003 driver for NeXTstep 3.1 Organization: C.d.C-Politecnico di Milano Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1993 16:30:15 GMT Message-ID: <1993Nov15.163015.5637@cdc486.cdc.polimi.it> Sender: netnews@cdc486.cdc.polimi.it (NetNews) Is there (anybody working on) a WD8003 driver for NeXTStep 3.1 running on Intel platforms? Please answer by e-mail.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) Subject: Parser for Archived c.s.n.x Files Message-ID: <1993Nov14.194653.2600@weston.com> Sender: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1993 19:46:53 GMT I have obtained a couple of archived comp.sys.next.software files. Each of these is split into 1 month of traffic. Question: Does anyone have a utility which will parse this file and create a NewsGrazer directory, or even a mailbox for nextmail? Thanks Wes Spears -- Wes Spears <-------> jspears@weston.com (NeXTMail Welcome) The Weston Group (UUCP and SENDMAIL Consultation) 8524 Highway 6 North, 162, Houston, TX 77095
From: pfp@marmeladinger.adv.magwien.gv.at (Peter Pflaeging) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Installing tcsh on NSFIP 3.1 Date: 15 Nov 1993 14:23:17 GMT Organization: Gemeinde Wien MD-ADV/Ma; A-1010 Wien; Austria Message-ID: <PFP.93Nov15152317@marmeladinger.adv.magwien.gv.at> References: <1993Nov12.181813.24198@beaver.cs.washington.edu> In-reply-to: fineman@cs.washington.edu's message of Fri, 12 Nov 93 18:18:13 GMT #>>>>> "D" == Daniel Fineman <fineman@cs.washington.edu> writes: D> Here's a problem: I downloaded the source for tcsh-6.01 from D> somewhere in utah, and compiled it just fine on a black cube D> running 3.0. I had to copy config/config.bsd to config.h, and D> change the Makefile to say "CC=cc" and to use the flags for an D> older version of gcc. D> Then, i used the exact same Makefile, and un-tarred the source D> (a clean copy) at my home NSFIP 3.1 machine, and it didn't D> compile. I had homework to do last night, so i didn't really D> spend more than a few minutes working on it. D> does anyone know offhand what would be different for the two D> machines? I'll post the error messages up (messages that D> didn't pop up when it was compiled on the black 3.0 machine) D> later if no one responds... I compiled tcsh6.04 last night on NS/IP. It's very easy. The only restriction si, that you have to do it from /bin/sh _not_ from csh! Maybe there's a bug in make that causes the generation of the headers make by csh, and this doesn't work! But ist's running great after this! peter -- _ / _ / Peter.Pflaeging@magwien.gv.at / / / / Grabmayrg. 18/6; A-1210 Wien; Austria/Europe ___/ ___/ (Phone) +43 1 387872 or 40133 677 __/eter __/flaeging (Fax) +43 1 4000 7141
From: pfp@marmeladinger.adv.magwien.gv.at (Peter Pflaeging) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Where is the free lunch InstantTeX 3.0 ? Date: 15 Nov 1993 14:24:39 GMT Organization: Gemeinde Wien MD-ADV/Ma; A-1010 Wien; Austria Message-ID: <PFP.93Nov15152439@marmeladinger.adv.magwien.gv.at> References: <CGEu0n.FoA@sparc15.cs.cuhk.hk> In-reply-to: skwong@cuse1.se.cuhk.hk's message of Sat, 13 Nov 1993 03:07:35 GMT >>>>> "W" == Wong Sai Kee (Graduate Assistant) <skwong@cuse1.se.cuhk.hk> writes: W> I had read an announcements in Aug: >> From: dmitri@physics.stanford.edu Subject: PRESS RELEASE: >> InstantTeX 3.0 FREE Date: 1 Aug 1993 18:27:27 -0400 >> PALO ALTO, CA - July 28, 1993 - InstantTeX today announced the >> release of InstantTeX 3.0 software for NeXT computers which >> will be distributed for free. >> cs.orst.edu:pub/next/submissions/InstantTeX.tar or >> pub/next/binaries/editors/InstantTeX.tar Is it available for NS/IP, or for Black hardware only? peter -- _ / _ / Peter.Pflaeging@magwien.gv.at / / / / Grabmayrg. 18/6; A-1210 Wien; Austria/Europe ___/ ___/ (Phone) +43 1 387872 or 40133 677 __/eter __/flaeging (Fax) +43 1 4000 7141
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mshaler@tdocad.sps.mot.com (Michael Shaler) Subject: Re: Parser for Archived c.s.n.x Files Message-ID: <CGJFtL.Fy6@tdocad.sps.mot.com> Sender: news@tdocad.sps.mot.com Organization: Nippon Motorola Ltd., Tokyo, Japan References: <1993Nov14.194653.2600@weston.com> Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1993 14:48:56 GMT Wes Spears writes: I have obtained a couple of archived comp.sys.next.software files. Each of these is split into 1 month of traffic. Question: Does anyone have a utility which will parse this file and create a NewsGrazer directory, or even a mailbox for nextmail? I've sent Wes a copy of News2Mail, which archives articles--one at at time--as c.s.n.a.mbox directories. It's useful on a day to day basis, but chokes on batched files. If anybody has a more useful tool (I'm fairly sure that a perl script exists for such purposes), please let net.land know. Inquiring minds... --- Michael Shaler Tokyo Design Center Nippon Motorola Ltd. +813 3280 8245 voice +813 3440 0033 fax mshaler@tdocad.sps.mot.com [NeXTmail]
From: depetris@dingo.imag.fr (thierry depetris) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Somebody use Mathlink ? Date: 15 Nov 1993 16:47:49 GMT Organization: I.M.A.G. Institute, University of Grenoble, France Sender: depetris@dingo (thierry depetris) Distribution: world Message-ID: <2c8brl$e1l@imag.imag.fr> I want to do something like that : Display[Plot[f[x],{x,min,max}]] Not directly in Mathematica but in a C programm using Mathlink. Is it possible ?? How to do that ????
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: michal@gortel (Michal Jaegermann) Subject: Re: NeXTTeX: 600dpi possible? Message-ID: <1993Nov15.171013.29663@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada References: <2c61aq$fdt@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1993 17:10:13 GMT Previous mail to the originator address bounces with strange errors, so I am posting this here. Donald J. Siegel (don@b62178.student.CWRU.Edu) wrote: : I'd like to generate 600dpi versions of ComputerModern Math Italic (I use : PostScript fonts for text), however, I'm having problems with MakeTeXPK. : as output: : ------------------- : MakeTeXPK cmmi10 600 600 magstep\(0.0\) : I don't know the mode for 600 : Have your system admin update MakeTeXPK : ------------------- : : So, what am I doing wrong? Exactly what you were told that you are doing. Your MakeTeXPK does not have a "mode" for 600 dpi. You have to get an editor and add one there (MakeTeXPK is a shell script located in /usr/bin/MakeTeXPK). The above, obviously, assumes that your Metafont knows about new mode and that this is a correct mode for your printer. If you do not know what I am talking about, then ftp to ftp.shsu.edu, read various README files which describe how to look for things there and how to retrieve them, and get "Metafont for Beginners" - around 20 pages writeup. Read and follow instructions. Required printer mode can be likely found in a file modes.mf on the same server. It has to be added to a file /usr/lib/mf/inputs/next.mf before you will run inimf to dump a new Metafont "base". Michal Jaegermann michal@gortel.phys.ualberta.ca ntomczak@vm.ucs.ualberta.ca
From: bora@ils.nwu.edu (Don Bora) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Printing fonts without a printer Date: 15 Nov 1993 18:00:46 GMT Organization: The Institute for the Learning Sciences Distribution: world Message-ID: <2c8g4f$3v9@anaxagoras.ils.nwu.edu> I have a problem. I have a NeCT Cube but no printer. I was hoping I could just make a postscript dump of the file I was working on... convert that to a tiff file and then back to a postscript file (so that the printer need not be concerned with the type of font the original file is using.. had I not converted the file to a tiff the postscript print would have just used some default helvetica font or something like that) WheN I printed the file out on a 300dpi printer I got the ol' 92dpi (NeXT screen resolution) blocky print. Is there anyway around this no-printer printing delima? -*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* Donald F. Bora | | | The Institute for the Learning Sciences | | O | Northwestern University | (--|--) Evanston, Ill | | e-mail: dbora@ils.nwu.edu | / \ work: (708) 467-1972 | --------Be excellent to each other--------
From: terry_marrs@wiltel.com(Terry Marrs) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Tetris Date: 15 Nov 1993 18:46:31 GMT Organization: WilTel Message-ID: <2c8iq7$ib7@gateway.wiltel.com> Anyone got a FAT version of Tetris? I've had no luck with the source. -- |Terry Marrs |terry_marrs@wiltel.com |WilTel | NeXTmail OK -- NewsGrazer, a NeXTstep(tm) news reader, posting -- M>UQR=&8P7&%N<VE[7&9O;G1T8FQ<9C!<9FUO9&5R;B!#;W5R:65R.WT*7&UA M<F=L,3(P"EQM87)G<C$R,`I<<&%R9%QT>#$Q-3)<='@R,S`T7'1X,S0U-EQT M>#0V,#A<='@U-S8P7'1X-CDQ,EQT>#@P-C1<='@Y,C$V7'1X,3`S-CA<='@Q M,34R,%QF,%QB,%QI,%QU;&YO;F5<9G,R-%QF8S!<8V8P(%P*06YY;VYE(&=O M="!A($9!5"!V97)S:6]N(&]F(%1E=')I<S\@22=V92!H860@;F\@;'5C:R!W M:71H('1H92!S;W5R8V4N7`I<"BTM7`I\5&5R<GD@36%R<G-<"GQT97)R>5]M M87)R<T!W:6QT96PN8V]M7`I\5VEL5&5L"0D)"2!\("`@("`@("`@($YE6%1M ,86EL($]+(%P*"GT* `
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: snl@paneer.ndim.edrc.cmu.edu (Sean Levy) Subject: test Message-ID: <SNL.93Nov15134713@paneer.ndim.edrc.cmu.edu> Sender: news@cs.cmu.edu (Usenet News System) Organization: n-dim Group, Engineering Design Research Center, CMU Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1993 18:47:13 GMT Please excuse this. It is a test. --Sean -- -- Sean Levy, n-dim Group, EDRC, CMU, 5000 Forbes Ave, PGH, PA 15213 Email: snl+@cmu.edu, Phone: +1 412 268 5221, Fax: +1 412 268 5229
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: skwong@cuse1.se.cuhk.hk (Wong Sai Kee (Graduate Assistant)) Subject: Re: Here is the free lunch InstantTeX 3.0 Message-ID: <CGJH6v.Bn1@sparc15.cs.cuhk.hk> Sender: news@sparc15.cs.cuhk.hk Organization: Engineering Faculty, The Chinese U. of Hong Kong References: <CGEu0n.FoA@sparc15.cs.cuhk.hk> <CGH949.pB@sparc15.cs.cuhk.hk> Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1993 15:18:31 GMT Since two equiries was send to me within 24hrs. So I upload the one send to me by Dmitri Linde without prior notice to the author. Please find it in cs.orst.edu:pub/next/submissions/InstantTeX.uue Enjoy. SK
From: scott@nic.gac.edu (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Q: Configure Terminal.app for white characters on black background? Date: 15 Nov 93 14:00:06 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Message-ID: <SCOTT.93Nov15140006@nic.gac.edu> References: <CGB6rs.52o@genoa.com> <2c61lh$7us@thebes.cc.waikato.ac.nz> In-reply-to: kerry@totara.cs.waikato.ac.nz's message of 14 Nov 1993 19:41:37 GMT In article <2c61lh$7us@thebes.cc.waikato.ac.nz>, kerry@totara.cs.waikato.ac.nz (Kerry Guise) writes: >In article <CGB6rs.52o@genoa.com> > alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore) writes: >> VampLestat writes >> > Is it possible to configure Terminal.app to have a black >> > background and a white foreground? The white background wears >> > on my eyes after a long time, >> >> It wears on my eyes too. >> If you have black hardware, get Stuart.app from the archives and >> save your eyes some strain, plus get several other niceties, (e.g. >> scroll from the keyboard) >> >> its shareware, but with at a very reasonable cost, esp for students. >> -- >> Alex Blakemore >> alex@cs.umd.edu NeXT mail accepted > >However, Stuart.app seems to have a bug in writing to the utmp >file (even with the correct Preferences selection). This will of >course cause problems with programs such as [ny]talk and many >others. I wonder if this has been fixed in a later version ? It is fixed in the version you have. Check the online manual entries "Installation" or "Trouble Shooting/talk Isn't Working" (I tried to make these as obvious as possible :-). The basic problem is one of permissions, which NeXT gets to sidestep handily by pre-installing things for you. Under early versions of Stuart (pre-2.3), Stuart itself had to be setuid root, but for security reasons later versions use a separate program that must be installed setuid root (StuartLog for Stuart2.3, slog for Stuart2.4). This program includes source code, so the user can verify that it really is reasonably secure, rather than having to blindly trust in my abilities ... Later, -- scott hess <scott@nic.gac.edu> <I can handle NeXTMail, but don't like it> 12901 Upton Avenue South, #326 Burnsville, MN 55337 (612) 895-1208 Anytime! <C++: ... One Language to bring them all and in the darkness bind them> <In the Land of Redmond where the Shadows lie.>
From: lparkyn@saturn (Lyle Parkyn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Frame 4.0. not available on the NeXT Date: 15 Nov 1993 18:37:39 GMT Organization: Rogers Communications Distribution: NA Message-ID: <2c8i9j$5b6@mail.Rogers.Com> References: <1993Nov12.094418.21186@fokus.gmd.de> In article <1993Nov12.094418.21186@fokus.gmd.de> kho@hubble.fokus.gmd.de (Klaus Hofrichter) writes: > The problem with Frame is, that people do not stop working while waiting > for a piece of software, especially, if it is not announced. So, till the > end of this year we have to decide about our inhouse strategy for > textprocessing in our multi-vendor environment (Mac, Sun/Solaris, > NeXTSTEP, PC/Windows): > (a) drop Frame, > (b) drop NeXT or > (c) stay with Frame3 > > for (a) we need an alternative > for (b) we need 10 new workstations > for (c) we need ... well, why not? Any suggestions? > Stay with Frame 3, stay with NeXT. You said it yourself, "people do not stop working while waiting for a piece of software". Similarly, people do not stop working just because a newer version of software is available. Up until now Frame 3 on NeXT was fine, it still is. I doubt that FM4 is so much better that everyone has to have it now or they can't do their work. I didn't experience much of a gain going from FM2 to FM3 unless I had to do tables (rarely) and that was about the biggest improvement provided by FM3. Unless FM4 has some new feature that is critical to your company's documentation needs there's no real urgency to upgrade, unless of course you have excess money to give to Frame. -- Lyle D. Parkyn (416)250-4810 lparkyn@corpit.cantel.rogers.com NeXT Mail welcome Opinions expressed are my own.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: xinwei@otter.Stanford.EDU (Sha Xin Wei) Subject: Re: Parser for Archived c.s.n.x Files Message-ID: <1993Nov15.221139.9178@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: Stanford University References: <CGJFtL.Fy6@tdocad.sps.mot.com> Date: Mon, 15 Nov 93 22:11:39 GMT In article <CGJFtL.Fy6@tdocad.sps.mot.com> mshaler@tdocad.sps.mot.com (Michael Shaler) writes: > Wes Spears writes: > I have obtained a couple of archived comp.sys.next.software files. > Each of these is split into 1 month of traffic. > > Question: Does anyone have a utility which will parse this file > and create a NewsGrazer directory, or even a mailbox for nextmail? > > I've sent Wes a copy of News2Mail, which archives articles--one at > at time--as c.s.n.a.mbox directories. It's useful on a day to day > basis, but chokes on batched files. If anybody has a more useful > tool (I'm fairly sure that a perl script exists for such purposes), > please let net.land know. Inquiring minds... > > --- > Michael Shaler How about a "News2DigitalLibrarian" ? Sha Xin Wei ASD, Stanford University
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: xinwei@otter.Stanford.EDU (Sha Xin Wei) Subject: DL and RTF Message-ID: <1993Nov15.220955.9077@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: Stanford University Date: Mon, 15 Nov 93 22:09:55 GMT I drag a folder of RTF files, originally created by Mac/Microsofft Word 5.x, into Digital Librarian, then ask DL to index it. But a search by word fails to show anything. Are there filters for rtf or WriteNow that I need? If you have anything, I can take'm in nextmail: xinwei@otter.stanford.edu. thanks, Xin Wei ASD, Stanford University
From: Airborne Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Tetris Date: 15 Nov 1993 23:07:05 GMT Organization: Allegheny College Message-ID: <2c922p$97s@ftp.alleg.edu> References: <2c8iq7$ib7@gateway.wiltel.com> Terry Marrs writes Anyone got a FAT version of Tetris? I've had no luck with the source. -- |Terry Marrs |terry_marrs@wiltel.com |WilTel | NeXTmail OK I have been working on improvements to a Tetris program to make it more like the arcade version. If you're interested, I can send you a compiled version of the game to see how you like it. -- <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Virtue is like a rich stone, best plain set." - Francis Bacon "Yesterday, all my troubles seemed so far away, Now it looks as though they're here to stay, oh I believe, in yesterday..." - (you know who) <<<< Jeremy Bussard <-> Airborne <-> bussarj@alleg.EDU >>>> -- NewsGrazer, a NeXTstep(tm) news reader, posting -- M>UQR=&8P7&%N<VE[7&9O;G1T8FQ<9C!<9FUO9&5R;B!#;W5R:65R.WT*7&UA M<F=L,3(P"EQM87)G<C$R,`I[7&-O;&]R=&)L.UQR960X-5QG<F5E;C@U7&)L M=64X-3M]"EQP87)D7'1X,3$U,EQT>#(S,#1<='@S-#4V7'1X-#8P.%QT>#4W M-C!<='@V.3$R7'1X.#`V-%QT>#DR,39<='@Q,#,V.%QT>#$Q-3(P7&8P7&(P M7&E<=6QN;VYE7&9S,C1<9F,P7&-F,"!<"EP*5&5R<GD@36%R<G,@=W)I=&5S M7`H*7'!A<F1<='@P7'1X,3$R,%QT>#(R-#!<='@S,S8P7'1X-#0X,%QT>#4V M,#!<='@V-S(P7'1X-S@T,%QT>#@Y-C!<='@Q,#`X,%QT>#$Q,C`P7'1X,3(S M,C!<='@Q,S0T,%QT>#$T-38P7'1X,34V.#!<='@Q-C@P,%QT>#$W.3(P7'1X M,3DP-#!<='@R,#$V,%QT>#(Q,C@P7&9C,5QC9C$@7`H*7'!A<F1<='@Q,30P M7'1X,C,P,%QT>#,T-#!<='@T-C`P7'1X-3<V,%QT>#8Y,#!<='@X,#8P7'1X M.3(P,%QT>#$P,S8P7'1X,3$U,C!<:3!<9F,P7&-F,"!<"D%N>6]N92!G;W0@ M82!&050@=F5R<VEO;B!O9B!4971R:7,_($DG=F4@:&%D(&YO(&QU8VL@=VET M:"!T:&4@<V]U<F-E+EP*7`HM+5P*?%1E<G)Y($UA<G)S7`I\=&5R<GE?;6%R M<G-`=VEL=&5L+F-O;5P*?%=I;%1E;`D)"0D@?"`@("`@("`@("!.95A4;6%I M;"!/2R!<"@I<<&%R9%QT>#$Q-3)<='@R,S`T7'1X,S0U-EQT>#0V,#A<='@U M-S8P7'1X-CDQ,EQT>#@P-C1<='@Y,C$V7'1X,3`S-CA<='@Q,34R,%QF8S!< M8V8P(%P*22!H879E(&)E96X@=V]R:VEN9R!O;B!I;7!R;W9E;65N=',@=&\@ M82!4971R:7,@<')O9W)A;2!T;R!M86ME(&ET(&UO<F4@;&EK92!T:&4@87)C M861E('9E<G-I;VXN($EF('EO=2=R92!I;G1E<F5S=&5D+"!)(&-A;B!S96YD M('EO=2!A(&-O;7!I;&5D('9E<G-I;VX@;V8@=&AE(&=A;64@=&\@<V5E(&AO M=R!Y;W4@;&EK92!I="Y<"BTM7`H\/#P\/#P\/#P\/#P\/#P\/#P\/#P\/#P\ M/#P\/#X^/CX^/CX^/CX^/CX^/CX^/CX^/CX^/CX^/CX^/CX^/CX^(%P*(E9I M<G1U92!I<R!L:6ME(&$@<FEC:"!S=&]N92P@8F5S="!P;&%I;B!S970N(B`M M($9R86YC:7,@0F%C;VX@("!<"B)997-T97)D87DL(&%L;"!M>2!T<F]U8FQE M<R!S965M960@<V\@9F%R(&%W87DL("`@("`@("`@("`@("`@("!<"B`@("`@ M3F]W(&ET(&QO;VMS(&%S('1H;W5G:"!T:&5Y)W)E(&AE<F4@=&\@<W1A>2P@ M;V@@22!B96QI979E+"!<"B`@("`@("`@("`@("`@:6X@>65S=&5R9&%Y+BXN M(B`@("`@("`@("`M("AY;W4@:VYO=R!W:&\I("`@("`@("`@("`@("`@("`@ M("`@("`@("`@("`@("`@("`@("`@("`@("`@("`@("`@("`@("`@(%P*/#P\ M/"`@2F5R96UY($)U<W-A<F0@("`\+3X@06ER8F]R;F4@/"T^(&)U<W-A<FI` 586QL96<N1415("`@/CX^/EP*"GT* `
From: giddings@whitewater.chem.wisc.edu (Michael Giddings) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Painless Zmodem/Ymodem/Xmodem on NeXTSTEP? (summary) Date: 15 Nov 1993 23:27:59 GMT Organization: Division of Information Technology Distribution: world Message-ID: <2c939v$4gr@news.doit.wisc.edu> Thanks a bunch to everyone who responded to my query about easy ways to do zmodem transfers in NeXTSTEP. Here is a summary of what I received: ********* Try TipTop.app on the archive. [cs.orst.edu] I never dialed out from a Unix machine before and never used tip, or sz/rz. In 5 min after launching TipTop, I could down-load a 300kb binary file via zmodem from a BBS at 14.4baud successfully within its 15min demo time limit. It implements most protocols. I think this is a $25 shareware. I don't need it much, but when you need it, it beats tip/kermit hand down. -- Izumi Ohzawa [ $@Bg_78^=;(J ] USMail: University of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720 Telephone: (510) 642-6440 Fax: (510) 642-3323 Internet: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (NeXTMail OK) ********* [There were several other recommendations for TipTop] ********* If you use black hardware, just download Icomm from sonata (in /pub/next/1.0/binaries). It's a primative but free terminal emulator that supports zmodem. --Glenn - ********* Just follow this path: - use csh,tcsh,bash or zsh - log in using kermit - execute sz BLABLA.tar.Z (or similar) on the remote side - Escape to the kermit command prompt (CRTL-SHIFT-] here, you should know it on your side) - press CRTL-Z, kermit is now suspended - type rz </dev/ttyfb >/dev/ttyfb (or your interface opened by kermit) - receive data - type fg - (now in kermit) type c (this will not work under NS/FIP, since kermit blocks after the rz due to a bug in the serial driver) Regards Frank ********* -- MicroPhone Pro does X, Y, and Z-modem transfers. 510-644-3232 product@svcdudes.com -- -------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Pugh email: tpugh@oce.orst.edu Oceanic and Atmospheric Sciences voice: 503-737-2270 Oregon State University fax: 503-737-2064 NeXTmail ok! -------------------------------------------------------------- ********* You may run sz/rz from inside kermit with 'run' command. Details differ slightly with versions of sz/rz (some of which redirect stdin/stdout, and some don't). There are examples in kermit docs. I tried some hacked up varians putting the following in my .kermrc ; ; Send specified file(s) with ZMODEM ; define sz if = \v(argc) 1 FATAL {Send what file ?}, - if not exist \%1 FATAL {File \%1 not found.}, - run tipsz -Z -. \v(ttyfd) -: 9600 - \%1 \%2 \%3 \%4 \%5 \%6 \%7 \%8 \%9 , - echo \13\10\10, connect ; Receive file or files with ZMODEM ; define rz run tiprz -Z -. \v(ttyfd) -: 9600, echo \13\10, connect Your commands will likely differ, but the principle is the same. Michal ********* _________________________________________ FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE For more information, contact: David Ferrero Zion Software & Consulting. 56D Nanel Drive Glastonbury, CT 06033 USA 203 / 659-4257 email: info@zion.com Price: $89.00 + shipping Full-time students: $45.00 + shipping. ****** AVAILABLE NOW ****** _______________________________________________________ Zion Software & Consulting Ships MAB TeleComm 1.0b Affordable/Flexible Telecommunications has arrived for NEXTSTEP! Glastonbury, Conn., November 4, 1993 - Zion Software & Consulting announced the release of TeleComm: a telecommunications NeXTSTEP application for both Motorola and Intel based NEXTSTEP computers running version 3.1. "We have designed TeleComm with price and flexibility in mind." said David Ferrero, President at Zion. "The Terminal Emulation API and File Transfer API open up unlimited possibilities for serial communications and custom apps communicating over serial connections." "The user also benefits. With simple straight forward setup and dialing and a low price, anyone can connect to remote systems for BBS access, file transfer, and information browsing offered by many online service providers." PRODUCT HIGHLIGHTS * Easy to use NeXTSTEP Graphical User Interface for serial/Modem communications and file transfer. * File Transfer using XMODEM, YMODEM, ZMODEM. * VT100 terminal emulation. * IBMPC terminal emulation. * ANSI color support. * Terminal Emulation API (for custom data handling). * File Transfer API (for custom data handling). * Scrollback buffer. * Copy/Paste/Find support. * Font Panel support. * User Preferences. * Phone Directory with stored configurations. * Online Help. * More... AVAILABILITY: TeleComm is available on Internet archive servers (sonata.cc.purdue.edu and cs.orst.edu) as a demo that runs for 10 minutes at a time. You may enable the TeleComm demo by obtaining a registration number from Zion Software & Consulting for $89 or $45 for full-time students with valid ID. TeleComm is also available directly from Zion Software & Consulting, or on Paget Press's AppWrapper CD-ROM due out for the Holiday edition. Zion Software & Consulting is based in Connecticut, and specializes in custom software development and consulting with NEXTSTEP. TeleComm is a trademark of Zion Software & Consulting. NEXTSTEP is a registered trademark of NeXT Computer, Inc. All other trademarks are the property of their respective owners. ********* -- Michael Giddings | DNA sequencing technologies giddings@whitewater.chem.wisc.edu | Artificial Intelligence giddings@cs.wisc.edu | Sciences NeXT User Group founder |---------\-----------/|\------------/---------|
From: luomat@alleg.edu (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Possible answer to why Opener.app drag and drop doesn't work Date: 15 Nov 1993 23:12:04 GMT Organization: Allegheny College Distribution: world Message-ID: <2c92c4$9d3@ftp.alleg.edu> Keywords: Workspace DockOnTop possible culprit? There has been a bit of talk going on in these two groups about not being able to drag and drop files into Opener.app's icon to get packing/unpacking done. It seemed like a few of us could get it to work but the majority could not. The other day, I was looking at Workspace's defaults and saw: Workspace DockOnTop 0 I didn't know what it meant until a few days later when I was talking with my sys admin who showed me the [alt-click on NeXT icon] command which toggles the dock from always being on top of any window or icon to being underneath it/covered by it. When I have it set to 0 [ not on top ] then I can drag and drop files into Opener.app. When I have it set to 1 [ on top ] then I cannot. Do those of you who cannot drag and drop have your Workspace DockOnTop set to O or 1? I thought this might be a possible solution. Perhaps someone can answer this as well... the Recycler can be used on the dock no matter if Workspace DockOnTop is set to 0 or 1.... If the recycler can do it, shouldn't there be a way to get Opener.app to do the same, or is there some basic difference I am not seeing? Thanks -- Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu NeXT Mail Welcomed Home: Hudson, MA Current: Allegheny College, Meadville PA
From: goliath@next13pg2.wam.umd.edu (Bryan D. Sivils) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: .snd Soundfiles.. Can they be converted to PC .wav files? Date: 16 Nov 1993 00:11:24 GMT Organization: University of Maryland College Park Message-ID: <2c95rc$8c5@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> One question.. Could someone please tell me if it is possible to convert .snd sound files used on a next, to PC soundblaster compatible wav files. If so, how can i do this and where can i get the relevent software to achieve this.. I would really appriciate it.. Also please mail me if you have an answer. My e-mail address is goliath@wam.umd.edu Thanks Goliath
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: scott@abyss.ATMOS.ColoState.Edu (Scott Denning) Subject: Where is sz/rz? Sender: news@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU (News Account) Message-ID: <Nov16.002118.6174@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1993 00:21:18 GMT Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523 Is there a version of the zmodem serial communications programs sz/rz for the NeXT? I have searched the man pages, Librarian docs, and my system admisnistrator in vain. There are generic unix zmodem packages at some of the ftp sites, but we have not been able to compile them successfully. Is anybody using sz/rz? Did they come with your system? Did you get them from archive sites? If so, how did you compile them? Would you consider emailing sources? Thanks for any help! -- A. Scott Denning (303)491-8346 <scott@abyss.atmos.colostate.edu> Dept. of Atmospheric Science Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523
From: gezelter@neon.cchem.berkeley.edu (Dan Gezelter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: X server for NS 2.1 Date: 16 Nov 1993 00:33:02 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Distribution: world Message-ID: <2c973v$4pf@agate.berkeley.edu> Howdy. I've got a monochrom NextStation slab running NS 2.1. Does anyone out there have a precompiled version of the Xserver that they could give to me? I've tried the one on sonata, but I get that oh-so-nice looking polka-dot effect when I try to run it. Thanks in advance, --Dan -- _________________________________________________________________________ Don't step on my blue suede .sig gezelter@neon.cchem.berkeley.edu -------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: petcher@howdy.wustl.edu (Donald N. Petcher) Subject: Calendar program? Message-ID: <1993Nov16.000910.9715@wuphys.wustl.edu> Sender: usenet@wuphys.wustl.edu (USENET) Organization: Physics Dept, Washington U in St Louis Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1993 00:09:10 GMT Is there a nifty little calendar program (PD or otherwise) for NS Motorola that can be used to set appointments and ring reminder alarms for meetings and the like? I haven't seen one, and I could use one. Cheers, Don
From: mconners@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael R Conners) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: .snd Soundfiles.. Can they be converted to PC .wav files? Date: 16 Nov 1993 01:38:13 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <2c9au5$f6@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> References: <2c95rc$8c5@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> In article <2c95rc$8c5@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> All writes: > >One question.. Could someone please tell me if it is possible to >convert .snd sound files used on a next, to PC soundblaster compatible >wav files. If so, how can i do this and where can i get the relevent >software to achieve this.. I would really appriciate it.. Also please >mail me if you have an answer. My e-mail address is >goliath@wam.umd.edu > Yep. Get GISO (Garbage In Sound Out) from any of the ftp archive sites. If you're running 3.0+, get the one off of ftp.ircam.fr. -- *** Michael Conners - THE Ohio State University *** ** Compare and Contrast: ** Carter Administration Clinton Administration - Elvis dead - Barbra Streisand all too lively
From: doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu (Douglas Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: X for NeXT Date: 16 Nov 1993 01:58:19 GMT Organization: Center for Computer Music Research and Composition, U.C.S.B. Message-ID: <2c9c3s$hhj@hub.ucsb.edu> References: <2bmrpo$evc@alamut.cognet.ucla.edu> <1993Nov12.215954.19843@rpslmc.edu> <2c4eo9$sna@hub.ucsb.edu> <2c4r8oINNkti@gambier.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca> In article <2c4r8oINNkti@gambier.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca> a5g192@rick.cs.ubc.ca (Wei-Yuen Tan) writes: >In article <2c4eo9$sna@hub.ucsb.edu> doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu (Douglas Scott) writes: [ worldly advice deleted ] > >Seems like you know what you're talking about, so you could probably help me If you read the README file, you would see that the reason I know this stuff is that I designed the last few versions of Xfe and Xnext for NeXTOS 3.x. >here. I work in a lab with black hardware running OS 2.1 on monochrome >monitors. I've downloaded Xfe.app, and tried to run it, but to no avail. The I dont know if this is in the README (it should be), but none of this stuff will run under 2.1. >console listings display an error message something like "couldn't find XNeXT- >Paste". I downloaded XNeXTPaste, still couldn't start it up. Wierd. Do I have >to download the entire XNeXT-complete.tar.Z package and compile it? Do you have >any idea where I could find the XNeXT-minimal.tar.Z archive? I'm trying to run >xapps of my account which resides on an HP-UX machine. Where is this stuff coming from if not from my archive (foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu) or from cs.orst.edu? How did you get the version you have? XNeXT-complete.tar.Z is not something to compile...it is the compiled binaries, libraries, and fonts, ready to install and use. All you people who (for whatever reason) are still using OS 2.x and who wish to use Xnext should get in contact, because I do not support the old 2.x versions at all. -- Douglas Scott | Senior Development Engineer Tel: (805) 893-8352 | Center for Computer Music Research and Composition Internet (NeXTMail ok): | Music Department <doug@ccmrc.ucsb.edu> | University of California, Santa Barbara
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: sela@iastate.edu (Brian J Morrison) Subject: mpeg viewer for NS2.1? Message-ID: <CGKDGq.D4@news.iastate.edu> Sender: news@news.iastate.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1993 02:55:37 GMT Does anyone out there have a non X windows mpeg viewer that runs under NS2.1? If you do, would you PLEASE send it to me? I've tried to tweak the ones that I have found on the regular sites with no luck. I'd really appreciate a working version. Thanks in advance. Brian --- **********************IOWA***STATE***UNIVERSITY********************** * Brian Morrison sela@iastate.edu (NeXT Mail welcome!) * * -------------------------------------------------------------- * * He who throws mud loses ground. * ********************************************************************* -- Brian sela@iastate.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: volker@abulafia.in-berlin.de (Volker Safran) Subject: Re: NeXTTeX: 600dpi possible? Message-ID: <1993Nov15.092304.2225@abulafia.in-berlin.de> Sender: volker@abulafia.in-berlin.de Organization: Volker Safran, Interprint, Berlin, Germany References: <2c61aq$fdt@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1993 09:23:04 GMT In article <2c61aq$fdt@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> don@b62178.student.CWRU.Edu (Donald J. Siegel) writes: > I'd like to generate 600dpi versions of ComputerModern Math Italic (I use > PostScript fonts for text), however, I'm having problems with MakeTeXPK. > Here's a sample: > > ------------------ > [b62178]/don/lab3> dvips -D 600 lab3.dvi -o out1 > > This is dvips 5.51 Copyright 1986, 1993 Radical Eye Software > ' TeX output 1993.11.04:1330' -> out1 > - MakeTeXPK cmmi10 600 600 magstep\(0.0\) > I don't know the mode for 600 > Have your system admin update MakeTeXPK > dvips: Font cmmi10.400pk at 600 not found; scaling 400 instead. > dvips: Such scaling will generate extremely poor output. > - MakeTeXPK cmmi9 600 600 magstep\(0.0\) > Appending font creation commands to missfont.log > ------------------- > > Later, when I attempt to execute missfont.log, I get: > > contents of missfont.log: > ------------------- > MakeTeXPK cmmi10 600 600 magstep\(0.0\) > ------------------- > > as output: > ------------------- > MakeTeXPK cmmi10 600 600 magstep\(0.0\) > I don't know the mode for 600 > Have your system admin update MakeTeXPK > ------------------- > > > So, what am I doing wrong? You have to change two things: 1. Add a mode for 600dpi in /usr/lib/mf/inputs/next.mf like this one: mode_def nexthi = % nexthi mode: for 400 dpi NeXT (Canon engine) proofing:=0; % no, we're not making proofs fontmaking:=1; % yes, we are making a font tracingtitles:=0; % no, don't show titles in the log pixels_per_inch:=400; blacker:=0; % Canon engine is black enough fillin:=.2; % and it tends to fill in diagonals o_correction:=.6; % enddef; If you don't have a mode_def for your specific printer, just give the mode a name and change pixels_per_inch:=400 to 600. It may not be perfect, but it will work. 2. Add the following entry in /usr/bin/MakeTeXPK (it's a shell script): elif test $BDPI = 600 then MODE=the_name_of_the_mode_you_gave_before Now it should work. > > Thanks in advance, > don... No reason. CIAO Volker -- ************************************************************ * Volker Safran, FB20, TU Berlin, PHONE: +49 30 4542303 * * EMail: FAX: +49 30 4537157 * * volker@abulafia.in-berlin.de (NeXTMail very welcome)* * safran@fb3-s7.math.TU-Berlin.DE (no NeXTMail, sorry) * ************************************************************
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) Subject: Re: Calendar program? Message-ID: <1993Nov16.041150.24072@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: Stanford University References: <1993Nov16.000910.9715@wuphys.wustl.edu> Date: Tue, 16 Nov 93 04:11:50 GMT Donald N. Petcher writes > Is there a nifty little calendar program (PD or otherwise) for > NS Motorola that can be used to set appointments and ring reminder > alarms for meetings and the like? I haven't seen one, and I could > use one. There used to be a demo app called Date on NS2. Not very fancy, but as far as I know it still runs. -- - Stefano Pagiola Food Research Institute, Stanford University spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged) spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
From: isc10033@leonis.nus.sg (Tan Chee Heng) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: WD8003 driver for NeXTstep 3.1 Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Date: 16 Nov 1993 07:13:32 GMT Organization: National University of Singapore Message-ID: <2c9uis$sc4@nuscc.nus.sg> References: <1993Nov15.163015.5637@cdc486.cdc.polimi.it> Fabiano Cattaneo (se10@mahler.cefriel.it) wrote: : Is there (anybody working on) a WD8003 driver for NeXTStep 3.1 running on Intel platforms? : Please answer by e-mail. Other than the WD8013 card being 16bit, the WD8003 driver is the same. So you can use the SMC Elite 16 driver. It has been tested fine with a few of the WD and SMC Software configurable WD8003/SMC Elite cards. Quite robust.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bauer@galilei.lbm.mw.tu-muenchen.de (Sebastian Bauer) Subject: Indexing News (was: Re: Parser for Archived c.s.n.x Files) Message-ID: <1993Nov16.083054.3772@news.lrz-muenchen.de> Sender: news@news.lrz-muenchen.de (Mr. News) Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany) References: <1993Nov15.221139.9178@leland.Stanford.EDU> Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1993 08:30:54 GMT In article <1993Nov15.221139.9178@leland.Stanford.EDU> xinwei@otter.Stanford.EDU (Sha Xin Wei) writes: > How about a "News2DigitalLibrarian" ? If you just want to index archived news files (from NewsGrazer), you don't have to do any conversion. Just make a symbolic link to the news-folder (*.nfold-directory) in ~/Library/NewsGrazer/NewsFolders from an other location on your disk, but give the link a name without the nfold-extension. Then use this directory as a target (i.e. through Services) for Digital Librarian. As an example if you have your own NewsFolder "myNews" in NewsGrazer, it puts all the news articles that you archive to that folder into the directory ~/Library/NewsGrazer/NewsFolders/myNews.nfold. Now create i.e. a directory ~/Library/News and a link ~/Library/News/myNews -> ~/Library/NewsGrazer/NewsFolders/myNews.nfold. Than use ~/Library/News/myNews as a target for Digital Librarian (in WorkspaceManager select that directory and click Services-Librarian-Target) and index it. Sebastian -- Sebastian Bauer <bauer@lbm.mw.tu-muenchen.de> (NeXTmail welcome) Institute B for Mechanics (Prof. F. Pfeiffer) Technical University Munich, Germany
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: gvh@metrosoft.com (Gordon Van Huizen) Subject: Re: keyboard invocation of "docked" applications Message-ID: <1993Nov16.023354.1213@metrosoft.com> Sender: gvh@metrosoft.com Organization: Metrosoft References: <2bro6v$50k@TAMUTS.TAMU.EDU> Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1993 02:33:54 GMT In article <2bro6v$50k@TAMUTS.TAMU.EDU> ravir@riddler.tamu.edu (Ravi Ramachandran) writes: > I was wondering if it was possible to launch an > application from my dock using the keyboard (i.e. > without having to double click on the applications > icon). > > i.e. control-t to launch terminal.app, control-m to > launch mail etc. You'll be able to when MetroKeys comes out. Speaking of which - I should get back to work! :-) For info on MetroKeys (which does a lot of other stuff too), you can e-mail info@metrosoft.com. Gordon -- Gordon Van Huizen vox: 619.488.9411 fax: 619.488.3045 Metrosoft gvh@metrosoft.com [NeXTmail welcome]
From: wscomalo@bs.win.tue.nl (Malo Hautus) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Calendar program? Date: 16 Nov 1993 10:10:01 GMT Organization: Eindhoven University of Technology, The Netherlands Message-ID: <2ca8tp$hp0@svin01.win.tue.nl> References: <1993Nov16.041150.24072@leland.Stanford.EDU> In article <1993Nov16.041150.24072@leland.Stanford.EDU> spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) writes: > Donald N. Petcher writes > > Is there a nifty little calendar program (PD or otherwise) for > > NS Motorola that can be used to set appointments and ring reminder > > alarms for meetings and the like? I haven't seen one, and I could > > use one. > > There used to be a demo app called Date on NS2. Not very fancy, but > as far as I know it still runs. > > Stefano Pagiola > Food Research Institute, Stanford University > spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged) > spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged) You can also you use Cassandra (at the site cs.orst.edu, directory /pub/next/binaries/misc). It works quite satisfacorily. There are also sources available. (directory /pub/next/submissions) __________________________________________________ Malo Hautus Department of Mathematics and Computer Science Eindhoven University of Technology P.O. Box 513 5600 MB Eindhoven | Tel. +31 40 472628 | NeXT mail
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: lmccullo@nyx.cs.du.edu (Michael McCulloch) Subject: Re: Possible answer to why Opener.app drag and drop doesn't work Message-ID: <1993Nov16.153249.28789@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> of Denver for the Denver community. The University has neither control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users. Keywords: Workspace DockOnTop possible culprit? Sender: usenet@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu (netnews admin account) Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept. References: <2c92c4$9d3@ftp.alleg.edu> Date: Tue, 16 Nov 93 15:32:49 GMT In article <2c92c4$9d3@ftp.alleg.edu>, Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@alleg.edu> wrote: > There has been a bit of talk going on in these two groups about not > being able to drag and drop files into Opener.app's icon to get > packing/unpacking done. > > It seemed like a few of us could get it to work but the majority could > not. The other day, I was looking at Workspace's defaults and saw: > > Workspace DockOnTop 0 > > I didn't know what it meant until a few days later when I was talking > with my sys admin who showed me the [alt-click on NeXT icon] command > which toggles the dock from always being on top of any window or icon to > being underneath it/covered by it. > > When I have it set to 0 [ not on top ] then I can drag and drop files > into Opener.app. When I have it set to 1 [ on top ] then I cannot. Having the DockOnTop set also interferes with drag 'n' drop when using Engage!Deskto -- if your Engage! dock is in the same location as the WorkSpace dock. -- Michael McCulloch michael@hsv.tybrin.com (NextMail Accepted!) Huntsville, Alabama
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software From: lmccullo@nyx.cs.du.edu (Michael McCulloch) Subject: Re: WordPerfect Suspends Work On WordPerfect 6.0 for NeXTSTEP Message-ID: <1993Nov16.152408.28333@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> of Denver for the Denver community. The University has neither control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users. Sender: usenet@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu (netnews admin account) Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept. References: <23382@news.duke.edu> <rawyattCGADDv.Es9@netcom.com> <2c3hi9$jis@inxs.concert.net> <CGG8yG.BAs@news.iastate.edu> Date: Tue, 16 Nov 93 15:24:08 GMT In article <CGG8yG.BAs@news.iastate.edu>, Chris Wong <chris@iastate.edu> wrote: > What can NeXT do about this? Pay WP to release WP6? NeXT would > rather save the money for marketing... I'd rather see NeXT develop apps in-house before they resort to paying companies to produce products like WP. If the market can't support it, then it ain't good product. %^) Note to Frame: The reason you aren't selling any copies of FrameMaker for NEXTSTEP is because you're ignoring the new customers. NeXT's HW was discontinued. It's hard to sell an app for a platform that is not generating new seats. I've got the cash, waiting for product... -- Michael McCulloch michael@hsv.tybrin.com (NextMail Accepted!) Huntsville, Alabama
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software From: jr@media.com (JR Jesson) Subject: NeXT Format CD-ROM Burner?? Message-ID: <1993Nov16.152354.4313@media.com> Organization: Multimedia Learning, Inc. Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1993 15:23:54 GMT We are looking for a hardware/software combination that will allow us to burn NeXT CD-ROMs. My understanding is that we need to burn ISO 9960/Rockridge format discs, which we cannot do at the present time. We now have a Phillips CDD-521 CD-ROM burner with Mac and PC software, so it would be great if we could reuse the hardware. I'm not quite sure where to start the search, so any pointers would be appreciated... jr -- -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ J.R. Jesson Chief Development Dude, All-Around Nice Guy, Wirehead Multimedia Learning, Inc. (214)869-8282
From: citdem@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (MCCOLLAM, DON) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: WriteNow and Icon replacements? Date: 16 Nov 1993 09:40 MST Organization: University of Arizona Distribution: world Message-ID: <16NOV199309404792@violet.ccit.arizona.edu> News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41 [I didn't see my posting; so if two such messages from me appear, sorry.] I'd like to get your recommendations on software to replace Icon and WriteNow. [I have Adobe Illustrator and FrameMaker.] What is a good .tiff "painter"? What is a good but simple word processor that understand object linking (capable of sending and receiving link info)? Your recommendations are appreciated. Don McCollam citdem@happy.rc.arizona.edu
From: kelly@shogun.nersc.gov Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Calendar program? Date: 16 Nov 1993 16:59:42 GMT Organization: National Energy Research Supercomputer Center Distribution: usa Message-ID: <2cb0tu$qs9@cronkite.nersc.gov> References: <1993Nov16.000910.9715@wuphys.wustl.edu> In article <1993Nov16.000910.9715@wuphys.wustl.edu> petcher@howdy.wustl.edu (Donald N. Petcher) writes: > Is there a nifty little calendar program (PD or otherwise) for NS Motorola > that can be used to set appointments and ring reminder alarms for meetings > and the like? I haven't seen one, and I could use one. > > Cheers, > Don There is a program called Cassandra which is available at the next archive sites, either orst or sonata. The latest seems to be at orst.cs.edu. -- Bruce Kelly L-561, P O Box 5509, Livermore, CA, 94551 kelly@nersc.gov National Energy Research Supercomputer Center 510-423-0640 Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory Fax: 510-422-0435 University of California
From: citdem@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (MCCOLLAM, DON) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: WriteNow and Icon replacements? Date: 16 Nov 1993 12:05 MST Organization: University of Arizona Distribution: world Message-ID: <16NOV199312050929@violet.ccit.arizona.edu> References: <16NOV199309404792@violet.ccit.arizona.edu> News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41 In article <16NOV199309404792@violet.ccit.arizona.edu>, citdem@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (MCCOLLAM, DON) writes... [stuff] >I'd like to get your recommendations on software to replace Icon and WriteNow. [ditto] I forgot one other thing: What's a good .tiff -> (other formats) / (other formats) -> .tiff converter application? Thanks (again). Don McCollam citdem@happy.rc.arizona.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: petcher@howdy.wustl.edu (Donald N. Petcher) Subject: Re: Calendar program? Message-ID: <1993Nov16.195649.19859@wuphys.wustl.edu> Sender: usenet@wuphys.wustl.edu (USENET) Organization: Physics Dept, Washington U in St Louis References: <1993Nov16.000910.9715@wuphys.wustl.edu> <2cb0tu$qs9@cronkite.nersc.gov> Distribution: usa Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1993 19:56:49 GMT In article <2cb0tu$qs9@cronkite.nersc.gov> kelly@shogun.nersc.gov writes: >In article <1993Nov16.000910.9715@wuphys.wustl.edu> >petcher@howdy.wustl.edu (Donald N. Petcher) writes: >> Is there a nifty little calendar program (PD or otherwise) for NS >Motorola >> that can be used to set appointments and ring reminder alarms for >meetings >> and the like? I haven't seen one, and I could use one. >> >> Cheers, >> Don > >There is a program called Cassandra which is available at the >next archive sites, either orst or sonata. The latest seems >to be at orst.cs.edu. > Thanks to you and others for pointing this out. I couldn't tell this was a calendar program just by its name, when I first poked around the archives looking for one. I just downloaded it, and a quick look at the docs indicates that it is (or at least contains as a subset), just what I am looking for. Thanks again. >-- >Bruce Kelly L-561, P O Box 5509, Livermore, CA, 94551 >kelly@nersc.gov National Energy Research Supercomputer Center >510-423-0640 Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory >Fax: 510-422-0435 University of California --Don
From: gvh@metrosoft.com (Gordon Van Huizen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Remembering SimCity CD Rumors... Message-ID: <1993Nov16.173831.2814@metrosoft.com> Date: 16 Nov 93 17:38:31 GMT References: <jeffo.753155538@uiuc.edu> Sender: gvh@metrosoft.com Organization: Metrosoft In article <jeffo.753155538@uiuc.edu> jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) writes: > Douglas Moore writes: > >Does anybody else out there have any curiosity about what happened to this > >project? > > I do, but I'm not sure anyone on the net has the authority to talk > about what happened to the project. Authority? Unless there's a part of the story that I'm missing, the company that was doing the NEXTSTEP port (along with nifty 3D-Kit-generated graphics) disappeared from the face of the earth. Gordon -- Gordon Van Huizen vox: 619.488.9411 fax: 619.488.3045 Metrosoft gvh@metrosoft.com [NeXTmail welcome]
From: blake015@mc.duke.edu (Denise Blakeley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Possible answer to why Opener.app drag and drop doesn't work Message-ID: <23770@news.duke.edu> Date: 16 Nov 93 21:55:04 GMT References: <2c92c4$9d3@ftp.alleg.edu> Sender: news@news.duke.edu Timothy J. Luoma writes > Do those of you who cannot drag and drop have your Workspace DockOnTop > set to O or 1? I thought this might be a possible solution. This default is not set at all on my system--i.e., it doesn't show up when I do a dread -l. I can't drag and drop onto Opener in my dock (along the side). Denise -- Denise Blakeley | PROGRAM, tr. v., An activity similar Duke Med Center Info Systems | to banging one's head against a wall, Durham, NC | but with fewer opportunities for (919) 286-6468 W | reward. blake015@mc.duke.edu | NeXTMail welcome!
From: kerry@totara.cs.waikato.ac.nz (Kerry Guise) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Possible answer to why Opener.app drag and drop doesn't work Date: 17 Nov 1993 00:05:10 GMT Organization: The University of Waikato Distribution: world Message-ID: <2cbprm$1k93@thebes.cc.waikato.ac.nz> References: <2c92c4$9d3@ftp.alleg.edu> In article <2c92c4$9d3@ftp.alleg.edu> luomat@alleg.edu (Timothy J. Luoma) writes: > > There has been a bit of talk going on in these two groups about not > being able to drag and drop files into Opener.app's icon to get > packing/unpacking done. > > It seemed like a few of us could get it to work but the majority could > not. The other day, I was looking at Workspace's defaults and saw: > > Workspace DockOnTop 0 > > I didn't know what it meant until a few days later when I was talking > with my sys admin who showed me the [alt-click on NeXT icon] command > which toggles the dock from always being on top of any window or icon to > being underneath it/covered by it. This alt-clicking thing (on the NeXT icon in the dock ?) sounds potentially very useful ; only I can't make it work. Am I missing something ? Kerry Guise
From: kerry@totara.cs.waikato.ac.nz (Kerry Guise) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Possible answer to why Opener.app drag and drop doesn't work Date: 17 Nov 1993 00:05:30 GMT Organization: The University of Waikato Distribution: world Message-ID: <2cbpsa$1k94@thebes.cc.waikato.ac.nz> References: <2c92c4$9d3@ftp.alleg.edu> In article <2c92c4$9d3@ftp.alleg.edu> luomat@alleg.edu (Timothy J. Luoma) writes: > > There has been a bit of talk going on in these two groups about not > being able to drag and drop files into Opener.app's icon to get > packing/unpacking done. > > It seemed like a few of us could get it to work but the majority could > not. The other day, I was looking at Workspace's defaults and saw: > > Workspace DockOnTop 0 > > I didn't know what it meant until a few days later when I was talking > with my sys admin who showed me the [alt-click on NeXT icon] command > which toggles the dock from always being on top of any window or icon to > being underneath it/covered by it. This alt-clicking thing (on the NeXT icon in the dock ?) sounds potentially very useful ; only I can't make it work. Am I missing something ? Kerry Guise
From: kerry@totara.cs.waikato.ac.nz (Kerry Guise) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Possible answer to why Opener.app drag and drop doesn't work Date: 17 Nov 1993 00:06:04 GMT Organization: The University of Waikato Distribution: world Message-ID: <2cbptc$1k9c@thebes.cc.waikato.ac.nz> References: <2c92c4$9d3@ftp.alleg.edu> In article <2c92c4$9d3@ftp.alleg.edu> luomat@alleg.edu (Timothy J. Luoma) writes: > > There has been a bit of talk going on in these two groups about not > being able to drag and drop files into Opener.app's icon to get > packing/unpacking done. > > It seemed like a few of us could get it to work but the majority could > not. The other day, I was looking at Workspace's defaults and saw: > > Workspace DockOnTop 0 > > I didn't know what it meant until a few days later when I was talking > with my sys admin who showed me the [alt-click on NeXT icon] command > which toggles the dock from always being on top of any window or icon to > being underneath it/covered by it. This alt-clicking thing (on the NeXT icon in the dock ?) sounds potentially very useful ; only I can't make it work. Am I missing something ? Kerry Guise
From: kerry@totara.cs.waikato.ac.nz (Kerry Guise) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Possible answer to why Opener.app drag and drop doesn't work Date: 17 Nov 1993 00:06:18 GMT Organization: The University of Waikato Distribution: world Message-ID: <2cbptq$1k9d@thebes.cc.waikato.ac.nz> References: <2c92c4$9d3@ftp.alleg.edu> In article <2c92c4$9d3@ftp.alleg.edu> luomat@alleg.edu (Timothy J. Luoma) writes: > > There has been a bit of talk going on in these two groups about not > being able to drag and drop files into Opener.app's icon to get > packing/unpacking done. > > It seemed like a few of us could get it to work but the majority could > not. The other day, I was looking at Workspace's defaults and saw: > > Workspace DockOnTop 0 > > I didn't know what it meant until a few days later when I was talking > with my sys admin who showed me the [alt-click on NeXT icon] command > which toggles the dock from always being on top of any window or icon to > being underneath it/covered by it. This alt-clicking thing (on the NeXT icon in the dock ?) sounds potentially very useful ; only I can't make it work. Am I missing something ? Kerry Guise
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: ben@fizz.fdn.org (Benoit Grange) Subject: Re: Indexing News (was: Re: Parser for Archived c.s.n.x Files) In-Reply-To: bauer@galilei.lbm.mw.tu-muenchen.de's message of Tue, 16 Nov 1993 08:30:54 GMT Message-ID: <BEN.93Nov16230743@fizz.fdn.org> Sender: ben@fizz.fdn.org (Benoit Grange) Organization: Me References: <1993Nov15.221139.9178@leland.Stanford.EDU> <1993Nov16.083054.3772@news.lrz-muenchen.de> Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1993 22:07:43 GMT I had written a small service added to the librarian that will make the news article appear by Title, instead of by path (comp/sys/next/100) in the result of a search, this helps finding the correct article. If some of you are interested, e-mail me at ben@fizz.fdn.org. Benoit. -- Benoit Grange - PARIS - FRANCE ---- Mail to : ben@fizz.fdn.org (SMALL NeXTMails accepted)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: chris@iastate.edu (Chris Wong) Subject: Re: X for NeXT Message-ID: <CGM221.ILq@news.iastate.edu> Sender: news@news.iastate.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA References: <2bmrpo$evc@alamut.cognet.ucla.edu> <2c4eo9$sna@hub.ucsb.edu> <2c4r8oINNkti@gambier.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca> <2c9c3s$hhj@hub.ucsb.edu> Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1993 00:44:25 GMT In article <2c9c3s$hhj@hub.ucsb.edu> doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu (Douglas Scott) writes: >you have? XNeXT-complete.tar.Z is not something to compile...it is the >compiled binaries, libraries, and fonts, ready to install and use. Is a FAT/MAB version of XNeXT planned? >-- >Douglas Scott | Senior Development Engineer >Tel: (805) 893-8352 | Center for Computer Music Research and Composition >Internet (NeXTMail ok): | Music Department ><doug@ccmrc.ucsb.edu> | University of California, Santa Barbara -- Chris Wong | "Hardware is supposed to serve Software." chris@iastate.edu | Computer Engineering & Computer Science twba8@isuvax.iastate.edu | Iowa State University of Science and Technology
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: silbar@cantina.lanl.gov (Dick Silbar) Subject: Re: kermit ? Message-ID: <1993Nov16.231456.15710@newshost.lanl.gov> Sender: news@newshost.lanl.gov Organization: Los Alamos National Lab References: <1993Nov9.170032.19656@aragorn.unibe.ch> Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1993 23:14:56 GMT In article <1993Nov9.170032.19656@aragorn.unibe.ch> tt@panda.unibe.ch (Thomas Tschannen) writes: > In article <1993Nov9.163947.18092@aragorn.unibe.ch> max@elija.unibe.ch > (Max Hoesle) writes: > > Where I can find source code and manual from C-kermit > > > > -- > > Maximilian Hoesle Phone: ++41 (0)31 631 89 49 > > University of Berne Fax: ++41 (0)31 631 37 65 > > Institute of applied Physics > > Sidlerstrasse 5 Internet: hoesle@iap.unibe.ch > > CH-3012 Berne Next-Mail: max@elija.unibe.ch > > Switzerland > > You should look at ftp.cc.columbia.edu. > Well, the source (including one for NS/Intel!) is there, but WHERE is the manual? -- Dick Silbar WhistleSoft, Inc. NeXTMail: silbar@cantina.lanl.gov
From: mjl@squid.jpl.nasa.gov (Mark J Lysek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Calendar program? Date: 17 Nov 1993 01:48:58 GMT Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory - Pasadena CA Distribution: usa Message-ID: <2cbvua$7u1@netline-fddi.jpl.nasa.gov> References: <1993Nov16.000910.9715@wuphys.wustl.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Keywords: Cassandra,calendar In article <2cb0tu$qs9@cronkite.nersc.gov> kelly@shogun.nersc.gov writes: > >There is a program called Cassandra which is available at the >next archive sites, either orst or sonata. The latest seems >to be at orst.cs.edu. Does anyone know about a version of Cassandra for intel hardware? The one on cs.orst.cs.edu is great, but only works on black machines. I tried to compile a FAT version, but it didn't seem to work (3.1). Thanks, Mark Lysek, MJL@SQUID.JPL.NASA.GOV, (818) 354-1190 Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA
From: Sean.Levy@cs.cmu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,cmu.cs.unix.forum Subject: NeXT cube, NS3.1, TransSys CSLIP problems Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1993 15:00:31 -0500 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <gguH5Tm00hMgArNXcX@cs.cmu.edu> Summary: I'm trying to get TransSys' CSLIP package working between my NeXT cube and the CMU CS ether frontends, which support CSLIP. I'm having some troubles. The environment is NeXTSTEP 3.1 on a '040 cube. After fiddling with a number of things, I was still unable to get it so that /usr/dialupip/config/rc.slip could be run from /etc/rc.local without hanging the machine shortly after startup. I'll append the tail of /usr/adm/messages to this missive, but basically I would get "Cannot send multicall packet to 255.255.255.255" logged from netinfod and then nothing could be done except to reboot. When I took the rc.slip out of rc.local and did it by hand as root instead after booting, this problem went away. However, things still do not work properly. I can bring SLIP up with an explicit BRINGUP request, and I can ping hosts and use nslookup (and, it seems, most things that use UDP are OK), but if I attempt to telnet, it hangs. The behavior is actually a little wierder than this, but before going into long-winded detail, I was wondering if perhaps this sounded like a familiar problem to anyone reading this. The remote-side MTU is 1524, and I am setting the local MTU to match. Is this right? Are there any other tips that folks out there can suggest? The remote end is a CISCO (modem type unknown), my modem is a MultiTech ZOOM V.32bis modem (not the multitech that the dial-multitech.tcl is written for, but it was a simple hack to convert it). I've tried this both with a BNC+2 terminators plugged in and without one, still have the same problem. Perhaps there is /etc/hostconfig magick involved? Any help appreciated. Please respond via e-mail to snl+@cmu.edu. Cheers, -- Sean ----------- last bit of /usr/adm/messages ----------- Nov 2 23:02:36 damrak mach: NeXT ROM Monitor 2.5 v66 Nov 2 23:02:36 damrak mach: NeXT Mach 3.1: Fri Apr 30 08:31:15 PDT 1993; root( Nov 2 23:02:36 damrak mach: FPU version 0x41 Nov 2 23:02:36 damrak mach: physical memory = 16.00 megabytes. Nov 2 23:02:36 damrak mach: available memory = 14.17 megabytes. Nov 2 23:02:36 damrak mach: using 102 buffers containing 0.79 megabytes of memory Nov 2 23:02:36 damrak mach: NBIC present Nov 2 23:02:36 damrak mach: fc0 at 0x2114100 Nov 2 23:02:36 damrak mach: SCSI 53C90A Controller, Target 7, as sc0 at 0x2114000 Nov 2 23:02:36 damrak mach: MAXTOR XT-8760S Rev B5G as sd0 at sc0 target 1 lun 0 Nov 2 23:02:36 damrak mach: Disk Label: Disk Nov 2 23:02:36 damrak mach: Disk Capacity 660MB, Device Block 1024 bytes Nov 2 23:02:36 damrak mach: PLI SUPER FLOPPY Rev 1.50 as sd1 at sc0 target 5 lun 0 Nov 2 23:02:36 damrak mach: sd1: UNIT ATTENTION Nov 2 23:02:36 damrak mach: Waiting for drive to come ready Nov 2 23:02:36 damrak mach: ................... Nov 2 23:02:36 damrak mach: Generic SCSI Device as sg0 at sc0 target 7 lun 7 Nov 2 23:02:36 damrak mach: Generic SCSI Device as sg1 at sc0 target 7 lun 7 Nov 2 23:02:36 damrak mach: Generic SCSI Device as sg2 at sc0 target 7 lun 7 Nov 2 23:02:36 damrak mach: Generic SCSI Device as sg3 at sc0 target 7 lun 7 Nov 2 23:02:36 damrak mach: odc0 at 0x2112000 Nov 2 23:02:36 damrak mach: od0 at odc0 slave 0 Nov 2 23:02:36 damrak mach: drive ROM v8, servo ROM v8 Nov 2 23:02:36 damrak mach: od1 at odc0 slave 1 Nov 2 23:02:36 damrak mach: en0 at 0x2106000 Nov 2 23:02:36 damrak mach: en0: Ethernet address 00:00:0f:01:11:24 Nov 2 202:36 damrak mach: IP protocol enabled for interface en0, type "10MB Ethernet" Nov 2 23:02:36 damrak mach: dsp0 at 0x2108000 Nov 2 23:02:36 damrak mach: np0 at 0x200f000 Nov 2 23:02:36 damrak mach: sound0 at 0x200e000 Nov 2 23:02:36 damrak mach: root on sd0 Nov 2 23:02:46 damrak mach: Dial-Up IP: a Compressed SLIP driver for the NeXT, version 920904 Nov 2 23:02:46 damrak mach: Copyright 1991,1992 Louis A. Mamakos. All rights reserved. Nov 2 23:02:46 damrak mach: See distribution package and documentation for redistribution information. Nov 2 23:02:49 damrak reboot: Reboot complete Nov 2 23:02:57 damrak mach: audio kernel server initialized Nov 2 23:03:09 damrak netinfod[83]: Cannot send multicall packet to 255.255.255.255: Network is down Nov 2 23:03:17 damrak last message repeated 4 times Nov 2 23:03:20 damrak lookupd[86]: netinfo sleeping: RPC: Timed out Nov 2 23:03:25 damrak netinfod[83]: Cannot send multicall packet to 255.255.255.255: Network is down -- Sean Levy, n-dim Group, EDRC, CMU, 5000 Forbes Ave, PGH, PA 15213 Email: snl+@cmu.edu, Phone: +1 412 268 5221, Fax: +1 412 268 5229
From: luomat@alleg.edu (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Possible answer to why Opener.app drag and drop doesn't work Date: 17 Nov 1993 03:06:48 GMT Organization: Allegheny College Distribution: world Message-ID: <2cc4g8$bf0@ftp.alleg.edu> References: <2cbptq$1k9d@thebes.cc.waikato.ac.nz> In article <2cbptq$1k9d@thebes.cc.waikato.ac.nz> kerry@totara.cs.waikato.ac.nz (Kerry Guise) writes: This alt-clicking thing (on the NeXT icon in the dock ?) sounds potentially very useful ; only I can't make it work. Am I missing something ? Kerry Guise Well it is not the smoothest feature ever developed... I usually have to hold down the alt key and click 2 or 3 times (waiting in between to see if it will change the setting). Make sure you have a window near it to see if things are actually changing. -- Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu NeXT Mail Welcomed Home: Hudson, MA Current: Allegheny College, Meadville PA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) Subject: Re: kermit ? Message-ID: <1993Nov17.031848.19034@csus.edu> Sender: news@csus.edu Organization: San Francisco State University References: <1993Nov9.170032.19656@aragorn.unibe.ch> <1993Nov16.231456.15710@newshost.lanl.gov> Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1993 03:18:48 GMT In article <1993Nov16.231456.15710@newshost.lanl.gov> silbar@cantina.lanl.gov (Dick Silbar) writes: >Well, the source (including one for NS/Intel!) is there, but WHERE is the >manual? If you look in the files accompanying the source you'll find: |DOCUMENTATION | |C-Kermit 5A is documented in the book "Using C-Kermit" by Frank da Cruz and |Christine M. Gianone, 1993, Digital Press, Burlington, MA, USA. Digital Press |ISBN: 1-55558-108-0; Prentice-Hall ISBN: 0-13-037490-3. Price: US $34.95. In |USA, call DECdirect at 1-800-344-4825, refer to order number EY-J896E-DP. Or |Order from Columbia University by calling 1-212-854-3703. Please purchase the |documentation: it should answer most of your questions, and sales help to fund |the Kermit development and support effort. The software itself is still FREE. -=EPS=- -- And it's FASTER than zmodem!
From: bublitz@mdd.comm.mot.com (Martin Bublitz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Voice recognition Help Wanted Date: 17 Nov 1993 06:27:03 GMT Organization: Motorola - Wireless Data Group; Richmond, BC Distribution: na Message-ID: <2ccg7n$d26@mmddvan.mdd.comm.mot.com> I'm doing a project in voice recognition and I'm wondering if anyone has/knows of routines to do FFT or other transformations on samples of voice in order to create the templates as well as compare the incoming samples to these templates. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. Martin Bublitz bublitz@sfu.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mrothste@keiko.acs.calpoly.edu (Rothstein) Subject: Re: Speech Recognition for NeXT, II Message-ID: <1993Nov16.231951.100760@zeus.aix.calpoly.edu> Sender: news@zeus.calpoly.edu Organization: Cal Poly State University, San Luis Obispo References: <2bjdl2$smn@email.tuwien.ac.at> Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1993 23:19:51 GMT In article <2bjdl2$smn@email.tuwien.ac.at> joggl@neuro.tuwien.ac.at (Joachim Kainz) writes: > > I know that this question was already posted here some weeks ago, but > somehow I missed the answer: So please may somebody be patient with me and > tell me if there is good speech recognition software for the NeXT. > > BTW: I already tried SimonSays but that application only recognizes a very > tiny subset of natural language. (But, if somebody would like to control > the NeXT-UI with voice <-> it works great for that restricted task!) > > Greetings from Vienna, > Joachim. > > -- > > Joachim F. Kainz | Phone: ++43-1-58801-4132 > VCNN, TU Wien | Fax: ++43-1-504-1580 The answer is yes and no. The best (to my knowledge) speaker independent software available anyware was developed on and is still available for NeXTSTEP. The original project was called SPHINX and was a Carnigie (sic) Melon University. I believe it is now controlled and sold by CMs software company (sorry I don't have the info on they handy). It was from this project that Apple got the person responsible for casper. The no is that personal computers are not yet fast enough to do direct dictation (realtime-speaker independent-analog->digital conversion and hashing on a dictionary large enough for dication perposes). -Mont NeXTmail OK :-) mrothste@data.acs.calpoly.edu
From: jmm@king.econ.lsa.umich.edu (Jeffrey K. MacKie-Mason) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Can't dynamically load class (SpewView) Date: 17 Nov 1993 13:19:14 GMT Organization: University of Oslo Distribution: world Message-ID: <2cd8ci$83s@hermod.uio.no> I grabbed the SpewView module for BackSpace off the archives and loaded it. But when BackSpace tries to load it, it gives me an error panel saying "Could not dynamically load class: Spew View." Can someone tell me what obvious, stupid thing I've done wrong? -- -- Prof. Jeff MacKie-Mason internet: jmm@umich.edu Dept. of Economics bitnet: usergc76@umichum Univ. of Michigan phone: 313-764-7438 Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1220 fax: 313-763-9181
From: anderson@sapir.cog.jhu.edu (Stephen Anderson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: CAP60 on NeXT problem Date: 17 Nov 1993 13:55:23 GMT Organization: Dept. of Cognitive Science, The Johns Hopkins University Message-ID: <ANDERSON.93Nov17085523@sapir.cog.jhu.edu> I'm trying to build cap60.162 for NeXT (OS 3.1/Motorola). Using the default configuration parameters, everything makes all right except applications/lwserv, where I get the following errors: cc -O -DNeXT -DADDRINPACK -c lwsrv.c lwsrv.c: In function `childdone': lwsrv.c:394: warning: passing arg 1 of `wait' from incompatible pointer type lwsrv.c: In function `childjob': lwsrv.c:1174: warning: passing arg 1 of `wait' from incompatible pointer type lwsrv.c:1187: request for member `w_S' in something not a structure or union lwsrv.c:1187: request for member `w_T' in something not a structure or union *** Exit 1 Stop. Since others seem to have built this successfully, I thought I'd ask here about whether there's a straightforward fix before attempting to work it out for myself. Thanks in advance for any help, --Steve Anderson
From: mdw@sitar.jazz.att.com (Mark Wuest-nscst-tnt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Need help to force a modem to hang up Message-ID: <CGn6M3.A4t@cbfsb.cb.att.com> Date: 17 Nov 93 15:20:27 GMT References: <1993Nov12.134411.10056@investor.pgh.pa.us> Sender: news@cbfsb.cb.att.com Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories Originator: news@cbnewsg.cb.att.com You cannot just send "+++" all at once - the Hayes escape sequence (this is the thing they were sueing everyone and their dog about...) requires a little break between each "+". This is how it distinguishes a string of "+++++" in data from a human trying to get the modem's attention. In kermit, this might look like: hangup: output + pause 1 output + pause 1 output + input 10 OK output ATH0 Mark -- Mark Wuest mdw@sitar.jazz.att.com (NeXT Mail Ok)
From: citdem@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (MCCOLLAM, DON) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Mesa question Date: 17 Nov 1993 08:43 MST Organization: University of Arizona Distribution: world Message-ID: <17NOV199308435252@violet.ccit.arizona.edu> News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41 Hi. I'm new to Mesa. Is it really true that I _always_ must specify a range for the (SQL) Query tool? There's no defaults or dynamic sizing? (I tried a "growable" range name; but the tool seems to ignore the fact that the range can grow.) Any advice or comments? [It's a nusiance when I'm doing something like "select * from table_name" and I don't know how many rows or columns may be returned." In that case specifying a range is really meaningless (or could cause the illusion that all the rows/columns are displayed, when of course they're not if the range was exceeded.] Don McCollam citdem@happy.rc.arizona.edu
From: luomat@alleg.edu (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Puppet.app? Date: 17 Nov 1993 15:27:36 GMT Organization: Allegheny College Distribution: world Message-ID: <2cdft8$o34@ftp.alleg.edu> Awhile ago I heard someone talking about an app or executable called 'Puppet' or 'puppeteer' and I was wondering if it is on the archives anywhere. I haven't been able to find it so far on the usual ones... Thanks TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu NeXT Mail Welcomed Home: Hudson, MA Current: Allegheny College, Meadville PA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: hbergh@nl.oracle.com (Herbert vd Bergh) Subject: Re: Possible answer to why Opener.app drag and drop doesn't work Message-ID: <CGn0wA.6Ks@nl.oracle.com> Sender: news@nl.oracle.com Organization: Oracle Europe References: <2c92c4$9d3@ftp.alleg.edu> <2cbptq$1k9d@thebes.cc.waikato.ac.nz> Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1993 13:16:57 GMT Kerry Guise (kerry@totara.cs.waikato.ac.nz) wrote: : This alt-clicking thing (on the NeXT icon in the dock ?) sounds : potentially very useful ; only I can't make it work. Am I missing : something ? I think what you're missing is NS 3.1. I can't get it to work on my 3.0 system either. Herbert.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: img@aisb.ed.ac.uk (Ian Green) Subject: Re: X for NeXT In-Reply-To: doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu's message of 16 Nov 1993 01:58:19 GMT Message-ID: <IMG.93Nov17181325@achtriochtan.aisb.ed.ac.uk> Sender: news@aisb.ed.ac.uk (Network News Administrator) Organization: Department of Artificial Intelligence, University of Edinburgh References: <2bmrpo$evc@alamut.cognet.ucla.edu> <1993Nov12.215954.19843@rpslmc.edu> <2c4eo9$sna@hub.ucsb.edu> <2c4r8oINNkti@gambier.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca> <2c9c3s$hhj@hub.ucsb.edu> Date: 17 Nov 93 18:13:25 Thanks to Doug's help, I compiled Xnext x11r5 on a nextstation under NS2.1 If there is sufficient interest, I can make the binary ftp-able from `my' machine. Drop me a line and I will give details. (Due to a cock-up on my part, Xfe doesnt work on my machine; but who wants to leave X anyway? :-) Please note that I cant make the client side ftp-able too, just the server. -ian In article <2c9c3s$hhj@hub.ucsb.edu> doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu (Douglas Scott) writes: In article <2c4r8oINNkti@gambier.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca> a5g192@rick.cs.ubc.ca (Wei-Yuen Tan) writes: >In article <2c4eo9$sna@hub.ucsb.edu> doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu (Douglas Scott) writes: [ worldly advice deleted ] > >Seems like you know what you're talking about, so you could probably help me If you read the README file, you would see that the reason I know this stuff is that I designed the last few versions of Xfe and Xnext for NeXTOS 3.x. >here. I work in a lab with black hardware running OS 2.1 on monochrome >monitors. I've downloaded Xfe.app, and tried to run it, but to no avail. The I dont know if this is in the README (it should be), but none of this stuff will run under 2.1. >console listings display an error message something like "couldn't find XNeXT- >Paste". I downloaded XNeXTPaste, still couldn't start it up. Wierd. Do I have >to download the entire XNeXT-complete.tar.Z package and compile it? Do you have >any idea where I could find the XNeXT-minimal.tar.Z archive? I'm trying to run >xapps of my account which resides on an HP-UX machine. Where is this stuff coming from if not from my archive (foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu) or from cs.orst.edu? How did you get the version you have? XNeXT-complete.tar.Z is not something to compile...it is the compiled binaries, libraries, and fonts, ready to install and use. All you people who (for whatever reason) are still using OS 2.x and who wish to use Xnext should get in contact, because I do not support the old 2.x versions at all. -- Douglas Scott | Senior Development Engineer Tel: (805) 893-8352 | Center for Computer Music Research and Composition Internet (NeXTMail ok): | Music Department <doug@ccmrc.ucsb.edu> | University of California, Santa Barbara
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: byer@mv.us.adobe.com (Scott Byer) Subject: Re: Can't dynamically load class (SpewView) In-Reply-To: jmm@king.econ.lsa.umich.edu's message of 17 Nov 1993 13:19:14 GMT Message-ID: <BYER.93Nov17114108@birch.mv.us.adobe.com> Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS) Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View, CA References: <2cd8ci$83s@hermod.uio.no> Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1993 19:41:08 GMT In article <2cd8ci$83s@hermod.uio.no> jmm@king.econ.lsa.umich.edu (Jeffrey K. MacKie-Mason) writes: > I grabbed the SpewView module for BackSpace off the archives and > loaded it. But when BackSpace tries to load it, it gives me > an error panel saying "Could not dynamically load class: Spew > View." Can someone tell me what obvious, stupid thing I've > done wrong? Most likely, you're running 3.0 and it's a 3.1 module. FAT bundles don't work in 3.0. -- Scott Byer NeXTMail: byer@mv.us.adobe.com Adobe Systems Incorporated These are *my* opinions, and 1585 Charleston Road, P.O. Box 7900 do not necessarily reflect Mountain View, CA 94039-7900 the opinions of my employer. ---------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: gary@uaneuro.uah.ualberta.ca (Gary Ritchie) Subject: Weather.app update Message-ID: <1993Nov17.201510.10689@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1993 20:15:10 GMT This is an update to my recent message that appeared in c.s.n.announce. Submitted to cs.orst.edu: Weather-1.1-MAB.tar.gz Weather-1.1-MAB.tar.gz.README Removed from cs.orst.edu: Weather-1.1-486.tar.gz Weather-1.1-486.tar.gz.README Thanks to Robert Brown for supplying me with the MAB version. -- Gary Ritchie : NeXT Programmer Department of Medicine (Neurology) : University of Alberta Hospital gary@uaneuro.uah.ualberta.ca : NEXTMAIL Welcome (403) 492-8648
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: gary@uaneuro.uah.ualberta.ca (Gary Ritchie) Subject: Stripping submissions Message-ID: <1993Nov17.202608.11189@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1993 20:26:08 GMT I'm sure this has been mentioned a million times, but people seem to be ignoring it: Strip programs before submitting them to ftp archive sites!!! You can do this by "make install" which can be done from 3.1 ProjectBuilder, or by manually using "strip" on the binary inside the app wrapper. Programs which dynamically load bundles and other such magic can't be completely stripped, but these are still quite rare. See BackSpace for an example of how to set up the Makefiles so "make install" will work. For example, someone sumitted a MAB version of Weather.app to cs.orst.edu today, unstripped. The archive file was about 550K. The unarchived program was over 2MB! I submitted a stripped version of the same thing; the archive was about 130K and the uncompressed application was under 500K. -- Gary Ritchie : NeXT Programmer Department of Medicine (Neurology) : University of Alberta Hospital gary@uaneuro.uah.ualberta.ca : NEXTMAIL Welcome (403) 492-8648
From: M.Crawford@dcs.sheffield.ac.uk (Malcolm Crawford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NoteAbility from Ciusa Inc Date: 17 Nov 1993 15:44:19 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9311171732.AA18599@dcs.shef.ac.uk> Sorry, I haven't used NoteAbility properly, but saw the demo at the Expo and it looked rather good. The contact details I have for Ciusa are as follows: Gerard T. Schwartz (President) 3208 W. Lake Street Suite 133 Minneapolis MN 55416 Vox: (612) 822 1604 Email: g_schwartz@ciusa.com If anybody knows different would they pleae let me know. Have fun, mmalcolm. --- SHeffield Auditory Group | Vox : (+44) 742 768555 ext 5569 Dept. Computer Science | direct : 825569 Sheffield University | Fax : (+44) 742 780972 Regent Court | Email: malc@dcs.shef.ac.uk 211 Portobello Street | (NeXTMail welcome) Sheffield S1 4DP, UK. | (Read-Receipts discouraged :-)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: "Kathi Fisler" <kfisler@cs.indiana.edu> Subject: problem scaling eps files in Diagram2! Message-ID: <1993Nov17.164428.6783@news.cs.indiana.edu> Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1993 16:44:24 -0500 I've got a Diagram2! document saved to both diagram2 and eps formats. I want the eps version to be scaled to 50% of the size of the original drawing. I know in the old version of Diagram one could do this by zooming the drawing window and then using SaveTo. I have tried both that and setting the "scale" feature under Page Layout, but nothing seems to affect the size of the eps file that I get out (the diagram format file does save with the set scaling factor though). Any suggestions? I can edit the eps file by hand to get the desired effect, but I'd rather find a way to do this directly from Diagram2!. Thanks. -- Kathi Fisler kfisler@cs.indiana.edu Visual Inference and Hardware Methods Laboratories, Indiana University
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore) Subject: Re: Calendar program? Message-ID: <CGL7rF.Lr@genoa.com> Sender: alex@genoa.com (Alex Blakemore) Organization: Genoa Software Systems References: <1993Nov16.000910.9715@wuphys.wustl.edu> Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1993 13:50:03 GMT Donald N. Petcher writes > Is there a nifty little calendar program (PD or otherwise) for NS Motorola > that can be used to set appointments and ring reminder alarms for meetings > and the like? I haven't seen one, and I could use one. PencilMeIn.app from Sarrus is very nice, but a little pricey info@sarrus.com -- Alex Blakemore alex@cs.umd.edu NeXT mail accepted
From: johannes@scribes.english.uiuc.edu (John B. Friedman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: OD backup software Date: 17 Nov 1993 23:48:19 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <2ced83$gco@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Can anyone suggest a piece of software on Sonata for backing up the OS and Apps as well as files on a cube onto an OD? Thanks very much. John Friedman
From: karuzis@wccf.mit.edu (GLENN HOLM) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Tickle Service for CR - > LF etc. Date: 17 Nov 1993 19:49 EST Organization: MIT - Whitaker College Distribution: world Message-ID: <17NOV199319490062@wccf.mit.edu> News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41 does such exist? i keep getting such from ascii downloads to a Mac which are then read by NeXT. I can do it in Emacs clumsily, but would like this to happen as a Tickle Service. oh, by the way, anyone else notice that under the new 3.01 Emacs front end that the left mouse button still scrolls down when clicked in the lower right corner of the text window, but the right mouse button no longer scrolls up? ------------------------------------------------------------------ |Glenn Holm Internet:karuzis@wccf.mit.edu| |M.I.T Dept. of Brain + Cog. Sci. This VAX doesn't do NeXTmail | |Cambridge, MA 02139 "Real Neuroscientists don't do gels!" | ------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch) Subject: Re: Mesa question Message-ID: <1993Nov17.214844.4844@seer.demon.co.uk> Sender: paul@seer.demon.co.uk Organization: P & L Systems References: <17NOV199308435252@violet.ccit.arizona.edu> Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1993 21:48:44 GMT In article <17NOV199308435252@violet.ccit.arizona.edu> citdem@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (MCCOLLAM, DON) writes: > Hi. I'm new to Mesa. Is it really true that I _always_ must specify a > range for the (SQL) Query tool? There's no defaults or dynamic sizing? > (I tried a "growable" range name; but the tool seems to ignore the fact > that the range can grow.) Any advice or comments? [It's a nusiance when > I'm doing something like "select * from table_name" and I don't know > how many rows or columns may be returned." In that case specifying a > range is really meaningless (or could cause the illusion that all the > rows/columns are displayed, when of course they're not if the range > was exceeded.] Don Yes, you do have to give a location for the query output to be placed. You may not have noticed that if you ask for it to be placed into a named range, the size of that range will match exactly the amount of data retrieved, so you do have access to the amount of data returned. If you want to cross check the number of rows retrieved, a simple "select count(*) from table_name" into a single cell as another query will do. You can usually get rapid responses to questions on Mesa by mailing feedback@athena.com. Paul -- Paul Lynch P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk Tel: (0494)671501 paull@cix.compulink.co.uk Fax: (0494)680228 76711.451@compuserve.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: ken@phys.titech.ac.jp (Ken-ichiro Aoki) Subject: Re: kermit ? In-Reply-To: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU's message of Wed, 17 Nov 1993 03:18:48 GMT Message-ID: <KEN.93Nov18121624@nobunaga.phys.titech.ac.jp> Summary: electronic docs for kermit Sender: news@phys.titech.ac.jp (Usenet News System) Organization: Dept. of Physics, Tokyo Institute of Technology References: <1993Nov9.170032.19656@aragorn.unibe.ch> <1993Nov16.231456.15710@newshost.lanl.gov> <1993Nov17.031848.19034@csus.edu> Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1993 03:16:24 GMT In article <1993Nov17.031848.19034@csus.edu> eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) writes: In article <1993Nov16.231456.15710@newshost.lanl.gov> silbar@cantina.lanl.gov (Dick Silbar) writes: >Well, the source (including one for NS/Intel!) is there, but WHERE is the >manual? If you look in the files accompanying the source you'll find: |DOCUMENTATION | |C-Kermit 5A is documented in the book "Using C-Kermit" by Frank da Cruz and |Christine M. Gianone, 1993, Digital Press, Burlington, MA, USA. Digital Press |ISBN: 1-55558-108-0; Prentice-Hall ISBN: 0-13-037490-3. Price: US $34.95. .... There ARE also docs at watsun (or ftp.cc.columbia.edu) kermit/b -rw-rw-r-- 1 4505 1327 251390 Nov 23 1992 ckuker.doc <- ASCII -rw-rw-r-- 1 4505 1327 407290 Nov 23 1992 ckuker.ps <- formatted (watsun has cryptic acronyms/abbrevs, c-kermit-unix-kermit, I think is what it stands for.) Supporting free software by buying DOCS is a good thing though. However, in a pinch, you might not have the time to wait for the book to arrive. The software itself is still FREE. Indeed; and it's a fine software. -=EPS=- -- And it's FASTER than zmodem! Make sure to set the packet sizes to be large to achieve high speed transfers. Hope this helps somebody. -- Kenichiro Aoki (ken@phys.titech.ac.jp), Department of Physics, Tokyo Institute of Technology, Oh-okayama, Meguro-ku, Tokyo, JAPAN $@@DLZ7r(J$@0lO:!$El5~9)6HBg3XM}3XItJ*M}3X2J!$")(J152 $@El5~ETL\9u6hBg2,;3(J
From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: WordPerfect Suspends Work On WordPerfect 6.0 for NeXTSTEP Date: 18 Nov 93 03:31:46 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <jeffo.753593506@uiuc.edu> References: <23382@news.duke.edu> <rawyattCGADDv.Es9@netcom.com> <2c3hi9$jis@inxs.concert.net> <CGG8yG.BAs@news.iastate.edu> <1993Nov16.152408.28333@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> Michael McCulloch writes: >Note to Frame: >The reason you aren't selling any copies of FrameMaker for NEXTSTEP is >because you're ignoring the new customers. I would also add that Frame/NS didn't have much going for it above what Frame could do on other OSs. That is, Frame/NS wasn't significantly superior to Frame/Mac (for example). In fact, when comparing just how much of an NS app Frame/NS was, I'd say it made a really poor one because it lacked some of the important cross-application facilities that make NS unique and easy to use. Given other apps running on the Mac system, apps from other major vendors that continue to be supported and used by so many DTP and word processing users, I can't see much reason to stick with Frame/NS as it was. To make Frame/NS worth the while, I'd ask that it be made into a real NS-compliant application including exporting services, use of NS standard panels and layout including NS Help. With recent changes in NS, I would think this would be easier than in the NS 2.x days, but since Frame seems to like to keep their apps on different platforms all the same, I'm not betting that any of this will happen. -- J.B. Nicholson-Owens (*NO* NeXTmail please)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) Subject: Re: Tickle Service for CR - > LF etc. Message-ID: <1993Nov18.042428.24942@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: Stanford University References: <17NOV199319490062@wccf.mit.edu> Date: Thu, 18 Nov 93 04:24:28 GMT GLENN HOLM writes > does such exist? i keep getting such from ascii downloads to a > Mac which are then read by NeXT. I can do it in Emacs clumsily, > but would like this to happen as a Tickle Service. get ConvertTEXT from the archives; its a little utility that converts Mac ASCII to NS ascii. There's also other utilities that convert other Mac formats into NS. -- - Stefano Pagiola Food Research Institute, Stanford University spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged) spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
From: diego@ds5000.dgsca.unam.mx (Diego Martin Zamboni) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Good CAD program for NS/FIP? Message-ID: <2cetda$i5b@gaia.ucs.orst.edu> Date: 18 Nov 93 04:24:10 GMT Organization: UNIVERSIDAD NACIONAL AUTONOMA DE MEXICO Hi: Among other things, I'm going to use my NS/FIP machine to design (and, if possible, test) some mechanical parts. Can somebody recomend me some good CAD package for NS? I need on that is available for Intel machines, obviously. Thanks a lot. -- ************************************************************************* * Diego Martin Zamboni * Depto. de Administracion de Supercomputo * * diego@ds5000.dgsca.unam.mx * D.G.S.C.A., UNAM, Mexico. * * (132.248.204.8) * * *************************************************************************
From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Remembering SimCity CD Rumors... Date: 18 Nov 93 04:49:54 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <jeffo.753598194@uiuc.edu> References: <jeffo.753155538@uiuc.edu> <1993Nov16.173831.2814@metrosoft.com> Gordon Van Huizen writes: >Authority? Unless there's a part of the story that I'm >missing, the company that was doing the NEXTSTEP port >(along with nifty 3D-Kit-generated graphics) >disappeared from the face of the earth. Perhaps my post wasn't clear. I wasn't aware that anyone from the company was on the net and able to talk about the product publicly. Has anyone any plans to make any games of any kind anytime soon? -- J.B. Nicholson-Owens (*NO* NeXTmail please)
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Quick Guide to the comp.sys.next.* newsgroups Date: 18 Nov 1993 01:53:25 -0500 Organization: Next Announcements Message-ID: <2cf653$hl@digifix.digifix.com> The current menagerie: comp.sys.next.advocacy This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. comp.sys.next.announce Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) The NEXTSTEP FAQs are posted here monthly as well. This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. comp.sys.next.bugs A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well. comp.sys.next.hardware Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. comp.sys.next.marketplace NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. comp.sys.next.misc For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! comp.sys.next.programmer Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. The NEXTSTEP programmer FAQs are posted here. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. comp.sys.next.software This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. comp.sys.next.sysadmin Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. related Newsgroups comp.soft-sys.nextstep Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. comp.lang.objective-c Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. comp.object Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep-d next-advocacy-d next-announce-d next-bugs-d next-hardware-d next-marketplace-d next-misc-d next-programmer-d next-software-d next-sysadmin-d (For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to <digestif@antigone.com>). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's. To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying: SUB Listname YourName Example: SUB next-hardware-d John Doe -------------------------------------------------------------------- Written by: Eric P. Scott eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU Minor editing: Scott Anguish sanguish@digifix.com Additions from: Greg Anderson (Greg_Anderson@afs.com) and Michael Pizolato (Michael_Pizolato@afs.com)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: esprit@netcom.com (Alan F. Perry) Subject: Upgrade problems Message-ID: <espritCGoDIG.5ot@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1993 06:47:04 GMT I have some problems with installing an upgrade. Maybe YOU can help. I have an '030 cube that I am running 3.0 on. I built an OD with 3.0 and now I am trying to upgrade it to 3.0J (the Japanese release of 3.0). I run Upgrade3.0 (or whatever it is called), select OD and click on Plan Upgrade and I get a message that there was an error and I should check out the logs. I look in the logs and see "set: Syntax error". I tried this same thing with my normal, U.S. release of 3.0 with the same results. (When I bought my system, it came with 3.0 and the 3.0 Upgrade CD, no other NeXTSTEP media.) Does Upgrade3.0 not like to upgrade from 3.0? Is there a way to work around this? Am I hosed? Anyone in the Bay Area willing to put 2.x on my OD so I can upgrade it to 3.0J? Any better ideas? -- ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Alan F. Perry | Life is short, but by achieving greater speeds esprit@netcom.com (home) | a man can make his life a little longer and allan@lynx.com (work) | more affluent - Soichiro Honda
From: bill@alamut.cognet.ucla.edu (William M. Eldridge) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Middle button for X? Date: 17 Nov 1993 13:20:00 -0800 Organization: UCLA Cognitive Science Research Program Message-ID: <2ce4i0$nvv@alamut.cognet.ucla.edu> References: <2bo67g$bju@skates.gsfc.nasa.gov> <CGCE7y.L1M@agedwards.com> >: > Where is the middle button of mouse with mouseX? >: > What the combination should I use to emulate the middle button.... In co-Xist, the middle button is emulated by hitting both buttons at once. Is this what you're looking for? -- Bill Eldridge "Hung with care bill@cognet.ucla.edu by a jury de rigeur" 310-206-3960 (3987 fax) ..................
From: Sean.Levy@cs.cmu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: DialUpIP problem solved Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1993 03:07:10 -0500 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <Mgumoiq00hNP8RB1Nt@cs.cmu.edu> The solution was the following bit of non-intuitive NS hackery: # niutil -t -destroyprop localhost/local /machines/broadcasthost serves If I didn't have a friend who used to work for NeXT.COM, I doubt I'd have ever figured this out. The problem was that at some point after the network came up via SLIP, lookupd decided to try and synchronize its cache with whatever the hell it could find out there, which eventually casued my machine to lock up, as more and more things that wanted to use netinfo began to think they could (but, of course, they couldn't). In this case, the culprit seems to have been the fact that I had /etc/resolv.conf set up; I didn't make the connection initially that % telnet 128.2.214.233 was OK, but % telnet paneer.ndim.edrc.cmu.edu eventually triggered a lockup until after my friend explained to me what lookupd does. Sigh. At any rate, I'm now happily slipping into the net. I hope this missive helps someone else who runs into this. Cheers, -- Sean -- Sean Levy, n-dim Group, Engineering Design Research Center prototype (n) - Postal: EDRC, CMU, 5000 Forbes Ave., PGH, PA 15213, USA something you can Phones: +1 (412) 268-5222 (vox) +1 (412) 268 5229 (fax) throw away when E-mail: snl+@cmu.edu (MIME, ATK) you're done with snl@damrak.slip.cs.cmu.edu (NeXTMail) it, but somehow never do.
From: jmm@king.econ.lsa.umich.edu (Jeffrey K. MacKie-Mason) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Can't dynamically load class (SpewView) (SOLVED) Date: 18 Nov 1993 11:07:23 GMT Organization: University of Oslo Distribution: world Message-ID: <2cfl1b$38r@hermod.uio.no> References: <BYER.93Nov17114108@birch.mv.us.adobe.com> > > > I grabbed the SpewView module for BackSpace off the archives and > > loaded it. But when BackSpace tries to load it, it gives me > > an error panel saying "Could not dynamically load class: Spew > > View." Can someone tell me what obvious, stupid thing I've > > done wrong? > > Most likely, you're running 3.0 and it's a 3.1 module. FAT bundles > don't work in 3.0. Since several people mailed me that they'd had similar problems, I'll post the solution that worked for me. Just the opposite of what Scott Byer suggested: I am running NS 3.1, but I didn't compile the 3.1 version of BackSpace that is in the AppKit examples. Once I compiled the new version of BS, Spew works just fine.
From: terry_marrs@wiltel.com(Terry Marrs) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Remembering SimCity CD Rumors... Date: 18 Nov 1993 14:47:57 GMT Organization: WilTel Message-ID: <2cg1ut$7iv@gateway.wiltel.com> References: <jeffo.753598194@uiuc.edu> > Has anyone any plans to make any games of any kind anytime soon? I wouldn't hold my breath... -- |Terry Marrs |terry_marrs@wiltel.com |WilTel | NeXTmail OK
From: mdd@zeke.Rockefeller.EDU (Mark D. Doyle) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Possible answer to why Opener.app drag and drop doesn't work Message-ID: <1993Nov18.114119.14201@rockyd.rockefeller.edu> Keywords: Workspace DockOnTop possible culprit? Organization: Rockefeller University References: <2c92c4$9d3@ftp.alleg.edu> Date: Thu, 18 Nov 93 11:41:19 EST In article <2c92c4$9d3@ftp.alleg.edu> luomat@alleg.edu (Timothy J. Luoma) writes: > >There has been a bit of talk going on in these two groups about not >being able to drag and drop files into Opener.app's icon to get >packing/unpacking done. > >It seemed like a few of us could get it to work but the majority could >not. The other day, I was looking at Workspace's defaults and saw: > >Workspace DockOnTop 0 > >I didn't know what it meant until a few days later when I was talking >with my sys admin who showed me the [alt-click on NeXT icon] command >which toggles the dock from always being on top of any window or icon to >being underneath it/covered by it. > >When I have it set to 0 [ not on top ] then I can drag and drop files >into Opener.app. When I have it set to 1 [ on top ] then I cannot. > >Do those of you who cannot drag and drop have your Workspace DockOnTop >set to O or 1? I thought this might be a possible solution. > >Perhaps someone can answer this as well... the Recycler can be used on >the dock no matter if Workspace DockOnTop is set to 0 or 1.... If the >recycler can do it, shouldn't there be a way to get Opener.app to do the >same, or is there some basic difference I am not seeing? > >Thanks >-- >Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu NeXT Mail Welcomed >Home: Hudson, MA Current: Allegheny College, Meadville PA Sure enough this is the problem! It never occured to me that this was it. Thanks a lot for pointing this out. Later, Mark Doyle mdd@zeke.rockefeller.edu
From: shaman@halcyon.com (Russell Wilcoxon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Boot/Rescue disk for white 3.1? Date: 18 Nov 1993 08:24:04 -0800 Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. Sender: news@nwfocus.wa.com Message-ID: <2cg7j4$sq6@nwfocus.wa.com> Keywords: white 3.1 'm trying to figure out how to make a boot-disk or rescue-disk for NeXT 3.1-intel. I'ts really a drag testing different Graphics card configurations and having to re-load the entire thing every time. (The drivers mess with the Defaults.table when they're loaded.) Thanks for info.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mohenly@malahat.library.uvic.ca (Michael O'Henly) Subject: Compiling ispell 4.0 on NeXT... Message-ID: <1993Nov18.171121.17882@sol.UVic.CA> Sender: news@sol.UVic.CA Organization: University of Victoria Date: Thu, 18 Nov 93 17:11:21 GMT Has anyone built ispell 4.0 under NS3.0? I get this error... cc -c -I. -DBSD=1 -DRETSIGTYPE=void -DHAVE_STRING_H=1 -DHAVE_STRINGS_H=1 -DDICT_ LIB=\"/usr/local/lib/ispell\" -g build.c build.c: In function `find_slot': build.c:421: argument `hindex' doesn't match function prototype build.c:421: a formal parameter type that promotes to `int' build.c:421: can match only `int' in the prototype *** Exit 1 Stop. As usual (sigh), I would appreciate any advice. Thanks! Michael -- o --/-- __\ Michael O'Henly \ mohenly@malahat.Library.UVic.CA
From: pedja@cs.umd.edu (& Bogdanovich) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Where to get TipTop from (Was: Re: Future of MicroPhone - or why we should only support small developers) Date: 18 Nov 1993 17:55:22 GMT Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742 Distribution: world Message-ID: <PEDJA.93Nov18125522@midgard.cs.umd.edu> References: <2cehpu$vb@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> <2cf5g9$99o@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> In-reply-to: kdb@sunbar.mc.duke.edu's message of 18 Nov 1993 06:42:17 GMT In article <2cf5g9$99o@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> kdb@sunbar.mc.duke.edu (Kurt D. Bollacker) writes: > Where the heck is it? I just checked cs.osrt.edu and sonata.cc.purdue.edu > and could not find TipTop anywhere! TipTop has been moved into cs.orst.edu:/pub/next/binaries/comm: -r--r--r-- 1 ftp 192983 Oct 7 11:17 TipTop_0.93-ok.compressed -r--r--r-- 1 ftp 2062 Oct 7 01:53 TipTop_0.93.README -r--r--r-- 1 ftp 174288 Oct 10 11:37 TipTop_0.93_for_3.0.compressed TipTop for NS/FIP is available by email --- send an email message to <pedja@umiacs.umd.edu> with the subject line containing "send tiptop intel". You will receive a uuencoded file which is ~290K. Pedja <pedja%luka@umiacs.umd.edu>
From: scwg0600@ih-nxt01.cso.uiuc.edu (Steven C Weintz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Remembering SimCity CD Rumors... Date: 18 Nov 1993 18:07:21 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Distribution: world Message-ID: <2cgdkp$3e6@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <2cg1ut$7iv@gateway.wiltel.com> In article <2cg1ut$7iv@gateway.wiltel.com> terry_marrs@wiltel.com(Terry Marrs) writes: > > Has anyone any plans to make any games of any kind anytime soon? > > I wouldn't hold my breath... I am! (hhHUUUHHAAHHH *pweep*...) :-) There was a thread on this a few weeks ago and some nice soul from Id Software said they were doing a port of Wolfenstein 3D and Doom to NeXTSTEP! Also, theres a neat project involving Don Yacktman and Ernie Prabahkar, among many others, to build a 'WarGameKit" that ought to greatly ease development of Sim* type games. Judging from the Net.response, this market alone would grow NS sales! Best Regards, Steve Weintz scwg0600@sumter.cso.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) Subject: Re: NextMail question In-Reply-To: rajas@duke.NMR.EMBL-Heidelberg.DE's message of 18 Nov 93 13:09:54 +0100 To: rajas@duke.NMR.EMBL-Heidelberg.DE (Raj Thiagarajan) Message-ID: <CEDMAN.93Nov18104734@capitalist.princeton.edu> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University References: <1993Nov18.130954.128312@embl-heidelberg.de> Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1993 15:47:33 GMT In article <1993Nov18.130954.128312@embl-heidelberg.de> rajas@duke.NMR.EMBL-Heidelberg.DE (Raj Thiagarajan) writes: I am running NextStep 3.0 on my Next Station. 1. I was wondering whether I could setup aliases for sending mails outside using NextMailer - if yes ? how would I do it - I tried settting up an alias in my .cshrc file (it didn't work..) If you want to have aliases to be used for all mailers and all users of your system add them to /etc/sendmail/aliases and run newaliases. If you want to have private aliases for a particular MUA different from Mail.app you'll have to read the documentation for that particular mailer. 2. is it possible to have signature option in the NextMailer. RTF[riendly]FAQ. Carl Edman
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa) Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,alt.sources Subject: SUMMARY: Code to turn B/W PostScript into White-on-Blue Date: 18 Nov 1993 20:09:13 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Distribution: world Message-ID: <2cgkp9$lar@agate.berkeley.edu> References: <2ccos0$inm@agate.berkeley.edu> Keywords: slide, film recorder, color remapping, PostScript I asked: >Is it possible turn a regular black-on-white PostScript >into white-on-blue PS, by adding some code at the beginning >of a PS file? > >The reason I want to do this is to produce a slide of B/W PostScript. >Unfortunately, most film recorders can't produce thin black lines >on white background with good contrast. And making the PS into >white-on-blue can prevent the loss of contrast. The intent is to duplicate the effect one gets from a special photographic process that gives you white-on-blue slides from B/W originals, but instead using color film recorders. Thank you everyone who responded, especially James E. Burns, and Marcel Weiher who sent in code. I modified Marcel's code to map grayscale onto a line in color space. With that you can actually convert black-on-white to anything, e.g., yellow-on-blue, or white-on-red, etc. Caveat: It doesn't work with "image" operator and many pattern fill schemes. There are probably more things in PS that break this code. If you can fix it, please send me the fix. Both Marcel's and Jim's codes are included. Use whichever that works for you. ### 1: ----- cut here ---- %! % GrayToColor.ps [V0.90, 93-11-17] % % The following sniplet of PostScript code will turn a black-on-white drawing % into white-on-blue drawing, by defalut. % % Actually, it is possible to map the gray scale to a series of colors % that lie on a line segment in color space defined by two end-point colors. % % This is useful when producing a slide of a black-on-white PostScript % because most film recorders cannot produce thin black lines on white % background with high contrast (due to scattered light and finite spot size). % % Insert the following code (except for the test code) at the % beginning of a black-on-white PostScript. % But after all those obligatory DSC comments, preferably after % "%%EndComments" line. % % Tested and works with simple PS files generated by: % (old) FreeHand (New version will probably work.) % Virtuoso (NEXTSTEP) % TopDraw (NEXTSTEP) % GMT-System (v2.1) % % It does not work with "image" operator. Images will still be rendered % as black-and-white. Pattern fills often doesn't work either. % There are probably more things that break this code. % % It does not work with "image" operator. Images will still be rendered % as black-and-white. There are probably more things that break this code. % % Original by Marcel Weiher <marcel@cs.tu-berlin.de> % Modified by Izumi Ohzawa <izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu> % setcmykcolor support % flexible mapping of gray scale to any line in linear color space %-------------------------------------------------------------------------- % ### Color Remapping Defintions -- Modify the following to suit your taste. % RGB value of new background color to which white is mapped % (default= 60% of Blue and 10% of Red) /_r_BG 0.1 def /_g_BG 0 def /_b_BG 0.6 def % RGB value of new marking color to which black is mapped (default=white) /_r_MK 1 def /_g_MK 1 def /_b_MK 1 def /_new_setgray %-- Do the color reversal { %-- (gray to inverted blue scale) 1 exch sub % i (inverted setgray value (1-gray)) dup dup % i i i _r_MK _r_BG sub mul % i i (i*(r_MK-r_BG)) _r_BG add % i i (i*(r_MK-r_BG)+r_BG) 3 1 roll % (i*(r_MK-r_BG)+r_BG) i i _g_MK _g_BG sub mul _g_BG add exch % (i*(r_MK-r_BG)+r_BG) (i*(g_MK-g_BG)+g_BG) i _b_MK _b_BG sub mul _b_BG add setrgbcolor } bind def %---- Make sure (some) alternative methods for %---- specifying color are also covered %---- "setcmykcolor" (level-2) implemented by Izumi %---- Missing: Level 2 setcolor /nxsetgray /_new_setgray load def %--- NeXT gray setting operator /setgray /_new_setgray load def /setrgbcolor { 3 copy dup % r g b r g b b 4 1 roll eq % r g b b r (g==b) 3 1 roll eq % r g b (g==b) (b==r) and { % (r==g==b), so still gray pop pop _new_setgray } { % not a gray, so render as color setrgbcolor } ifelse } bind def /nxsetrgbcolor /setrgbcolor load def %--- NeXT calibrated RGB color setting op. /setcmykcolor % Level 2 { 4 copy pop dup % c m y k c m y y 4 1 roll eq % c m y k y c (m==y) 3 1 roll eq % c m y k (m==y) (y==c) and { % (c == m == y) % c m y k add % c m (y+k) 1 exch sub % c m (1-(y+k)) _new_setgray pop pop } { % not a gray value setcmykcolor } ifelse } bind def %--- Important: fill background with new backgound color, %--- because PostScript's default white background is implicit. 1 1 1 setrgbcolor clippath fill %--- End of color remmaping code. ------------------------------- %==== Remove Test Code Below Before Using ================= /Helvetica findfont 30 scalefont setfont /temp-str 10 string def 20 20 moveto 0 0.1 1 { dup setgray % change gray from 0 to 1 in 0.1 steps gsave temp-str cvs show ( setgray) show grestore 0 30 rmoveto } for gsave 0 0 0 setrgbcolor (0 0 0 setrgbcolor ) show grestore 0 30 rmoveto gsave 0 0 0 1 setcmykcolor (0 0 0 1 setcmykcolor ) show grestore 0 30 rmoveto gsave 1 1 1 0 setcmykcolor (1 1 1 0 setcmykcolor ) show grestore showpage %=== End of Test Code ### 2: ----- cut here ---- %! % whiteonblue.ps % % This can be prepended to a black & white PostScript file % to print white on blue. Grays will map to shades of blue. % It is assumed that the original file doesn't reset the % graphics state (e.g., with grestoreall or initgraphics). % % James E. Burns, 11/17/93, burns@nova.bellcore.com % (Based on whiteonblack.ps 4/20/93) systemdict begin { 0 0 1 setrgbcolor % Dark blue background clippath fill % Suggested by: andrew@frip.wv.tek.com (Andrew Klossner) 1 setgray % Default white foreground } bind dup exec /showpage [ /showpage load 4 3 roll /exec load ] cvx { 1 exch sub dup dup 1 setrgbcolor } bind end % systemdict /setgray exch def % setgray def % showpage % -- End of remmaping code -- %==== Remove Test Code Below Before Using ================= /Helvetica findfont 30 scalefont setfont /temp-str 10 string def 20 20 moveto 0 0.1 1 { dup setgray % change gray from 0 to 1 in 0.1 steps gsave temp-str cvs show ( setgray) show grestore 0 30 rmoveto } for % ---------- I cannot test the following, but vshastry@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Vijay Shastry) also noted: "xv-3.00 can do what you want. It uses ghostscript to display PS files in X window environment. You can also edit colours and save the resulting file again in postscript or a variety of other formats." I don't know if xv-3.00 can output PostScript that is not a bitmap, but you might check what it does if interested. -- Izumi Ohzawa [ $@Bg_78^=;(J ] USMail: University of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720 Telephone: (510) 642-6440 Fax: (510) 642-3323 Internet: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (NeXTMail OK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: debaud@cc.gatech.edu (Jean-Marc Debaud) Subject: NEXTSTEP and MS DOS 6.2 boot manager Message-ID: <1993Nov18.203043.22875@cc.gatech.edu> Sender: news@cc.gatech.edu Organization: College of Computing Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1993 20:30:43 GMT I am wondering if anyone has upgraded his intel machine with the latest MS DOS 6.2 onto their old DOS version when NEXTSTEP was also present (as another partition). We all know that NEXTSTEP install a boot manager that allows us to boot what OS we want. Would intalling DOS 6.2 change any of this ? Would I have to reintall NEXTSTEP ? JM debaud@cc.gatech.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: wucolin@popeye.CIS.McMaster.CA (Colin Wu) Subject: Converting .draw to .raster or .tiff format Message-ID: <1993Nov18.202953.18288@mcshub.dcss.mcmaster.ca> Sender: usenet@mcshub.dcss.mcmaster.ca Organization: McMaster University, Hamilton, Ontario. Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1993 20:29:53 GMT Greetings, Does anyone know of a program/way/incantations for converting a .draw file to either raster or Tiff format? Failing that, is there a decent drawing program on the NeXT that will save files in .tiff or raster format? Any tips appreciated. -- __ _ _ Colin Wu / ) // ' ) / Network Analyst / __|/ o ____ / / / . . Computing & Information Services (__/ (_) \_<_/ / <_ (_(_/ (_/_ McMaster University (905)525-9140 ext 24050
From: swift@acs3.nntp-read.bu.edu (Matthew Swift) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: 3.0 ixbuild bugs (-T, -g options)? Date: 18 Nov 93 16:26:16 Organization: Boston University Information Technology Boston, MA USA Distribution: comp Message-ID: <SWIFT.93Nov18162616@acs3.nntp-read.bu.edu> 1] I cannot get ixbuild (3.0 black) to ignore file types listed in the .index.itype file (even with an explicity -T option). It simply goes ahead and indexes every file that comes along. My entries are simply, such as - - - - *.dvi I tested using a .index.ftype file, and it works fine, at least to assign file types to file extensions. 2] I also cannot get ixbuild to build descriptions properly, with the -g option. I have a filter service for ".tex" files installed, and it seems to work fine, and properly calls a "detex" file. But the descriptions come up blank, even when the "tex-desc" file called by the service is a simple echo -n "This is a TeX file" In v 2.x there was an undocumented feature to get boldface and perhaps italics in the descriptions, by using something like \b \u in the descriptions (I found these out by accident). Anyone know if something like that holds for 3.0? That is, assuming that I can get custom descriptions to work at all. My service looks like this: Filter: Port: NXUNIXSTDIO Send Type: NXTypedFilenamePboardType:tex Return Type: IXFileDescriptionPboardType Executable: /LocalApps/tex-desc and it shows up after a "make_services debug" like this: Filter #44: <0> Port: <1751> NXUNIXSTDIO Path: <1821> /swift/Library/Services/tex-desc Send Type(s): (192) <1763> NXTypedFilenamePboardType:tex Return Type(s): (194) <1793> IXFileDescriptionPboardType isHead: YES Next: 0 Head: 13 And: prompt% tex-desc foo.tex This is a TeX file prompt% 3} BY THE WAY, the NeXTanswers tells us that we can't supply our own miniicons to Librarian, but I found out you can -- just put a miniicon in Librarian.app/Images with the others, with the names <ext>.tiff and <ext>H.tiff. Matthew Swift swift@bu.edu
Message-ID: <^d%@byu.edu> Date: Thu, 18 Nov 93 15:29:10 MST From: yackd@alaska.et.byu.edu (Don Yacktman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Distribution: world References: <2cg1ut$7iv@gateway.wiltel.com> <2cgdkp$3e6@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Organization: Brigham Young University, Provo UT USA Subject: Re: Remembering SimCity CD Rumors... In article <2cgdkp$3e6@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>, scwg0600@ih-nxt01.cso.uiuc.edu (Steven C Weintz) writes: >In article <2cg1ut$7iv@gateway.wiltel.com> terry_marrs@wiltel.com(Terry >Marrs) writes: >> > Has anyone any plans to make any games of any kind anytime soon? >> >> I wouldn't hold my breath... > >I am! (hhHUUUHHAAHHH *pweep*...) :-) Yeah. There will be more NEXTSTEP games if I can do anything about it, and I can, you can be sure of that! >There was a thread on this a few weeks ago and some nice soul from Id >Software said they were doing a port of Wolfenstein 3D and Doom to >NeXTSTEP! Also, theres a neat project involving Don Yacktman and Ernie >Prabahkar, among many others, to build a 'WarGameKit" that ought to >greatly ease development of Sim* type games. Judging from the >Net.response, this market alone would grow NS sales! :-) Now, the WarKit effort is moving kinda slow at the moment, since we're trying to hammer out lots of architectural decisions at the moment. I've also been quite busy with projects that actually put food on my table. Despite all this, I _do_ have five different game projects in varying stages of completion that are separate from the WarKit effort. (And although I haven't coded anything, I've also done a lot of thinking about details for how I'd implement SimCity and Lemmings types of games. I'm addicted to both on my SNES, and would really like to see NEXTSTEP versions of both games...and since no one else will be doing either, to my knowledge, my attitude is that I'll just have to do it myself. :-) ) I'd also like to do an xpilot-style of game, and a game like crossfire, but those would have to wait until I finish the projects I've already started. Well, here's what I've been working on: (1) UnderMiner -- like gold digger (LodeRunner) but with a few more tricks and traps, and a level editor. I can make the little man run around, but he ignores the maze. :-) The maze code is about 50% done, and I need to add the computer bad guys. However, the level editor _does_ work fine. (2) NX_Invaders -- this will be done pretty soon, actually. It's meant to be an example of my GameKit. I had it working a while ago, but am doing a rewrite to make it use the GameKit. (Plus the old version was really inefficient, read: sssllllooooowwww.) This code will be turned into a tutorial on how to use my GameKit, to appear in an unnamed, upcoming publication, most likely... :-) (3) PipeWorks -- like xpipeman, or the NES PipeDream. Pretty far along, actually...you can build pipes and the fluid flows. Needs cleaning up, and the obstacles and special items need to be finished. (4) Hextris -- on the back burner. We have enough of these types of games, and that's partly my fault. :-) (5) RatPatrol -- a port of a game I wrote back in my Apple ][ days where you are a snake going around the screen eating up mice and stuff. (It was unique in that the snake could shed it's skin, leaving behind a maze you had to navigate.) You also had to avoid this falcon that would fly around trying to eat _you_... (Unless you got it from me or a pirate board, though, you would not have seen this game. it was never released, even though it was one of my faves.) If any of those seem particularly interesting to anyone, let me know. The one that gets the most "votes" will be likely the one you will see finished first. I intend to eventually do all of them, I just can't promise when I'll finish because I have other (paying) projects that take a lot of time. (Note that there are improvements to my released games in the queue, as well. Like tunnels and a level editor in PacMan, etc.) Anyone want to do some artwork for a SimCity-like game? Anyone want to make some nifty backgrounds and other artwork for a Lemmings type of game? Anyone want to write some nifty music for either? I could code these games up quite rapidly, especially Lemmings, but good artwork takes me _forever_ to do. That's where most of my time on PacMan was spent, and it's still not perfect! Anything that gets sent to me along these lines would help, and I know that some of the folks aching for games, while they aren't programmers, are decent artists, so... (oh, but if you _do_ want to do artwork, contact me first, because bitmap sizes need to be coordinated with program code, etc., for things to work out well.) Later, -don -- Don_Yacktman@byu.edu Nepotism is a relative thing.
From: scott@nic.gac.edu (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Tickle Service for CR - > LF etc. Date: 18 Nov 93 16:15:41 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Distribution: world Message-ID: <SCOTT.93Nov18161541@nic.gac.edu> References: <17NOV199319490062@wccf.mit.edu> In-reply-to: karuzis@wccf.mit.edu's message of 17 Nov 1993 19:49 EST In article <17NOV199319490062@wccf.mit.edu>, karuzis@wccf.mit.edu (GLENN HOLM) writes: >does such exist? i keep getting such from ascii downloads to a >Mac which are then read by NeXT. I can do it in Emacs clumsily, >but would like this to happen as a Tickle Service. It didn't, but it does now ... to suck this set of services into TickleServices, select from "# Begin TickleServices ..." to "# End TickleServices ...", and then do "Tickle Services/Save ASCII..." and save the file to an appropriate TickleServices directory (like ~/Library/TickleServices) as "Conversions.ts". Launch the front-end to update the daemon, and away you go. Alternately, you could select the same text, copy it using "Tickle Services/Copy as Service", and then go to a .ts window and hit Paste. Anyhow, one set of services provides conversions of selected text, while another provides conversions of selected files. Feel free to hack on these to your heart's content ... # Begin TickleServices Version 1.02mab Data "Divider" = "228.000000"; "Menu Item" = "!Initialization!"; "Tcl" = "\ # Scott Hess # 12901 Upton Avenue South, #326 # Burnsville, MN 55337 # home (612) 895-1208 # work (612) 890-1332 # scott@nic.gac.edu # # This file is in the public domain. # # These services provide some conversion facilities for conversion # of text file CR (carriage return) and LF (line feed/newline) # sequences. For instance, \"Convert CR to LF\" converts CR characte\ rs # to LF in the selectin and returns it. \"Convert CR to LF In\" can # be applied to a file or directory. # # Note that the services herein use the Tcl regsub function to # search for a string and replace it with another. This _could_ # easily be done using a variety of commands from Unix, such as tr # or sed. If these are used, though, be certain to snarf the nexec # proc from TickleServices.ts. The default exec proc removes the # trailing newline from the stdout of the command it runs, which # is no good for filters. # Find $search and replace it with $replace in $text, returning # the processed version of $text. proc replace {search replace text} { regsub -all $search $text $replace text return $text } # Apply replace to the pasteboard data as a filter. proc preplace {search replace} { pasteboard write [replace $search $replace [pasteboard read]] } # Reads the specified file and returns the text. proc readfile {filename {hexcode 0}} { set fileId [open $filename r] if {$hexcode} { set ret [read -hexcode $fileId] } else { set ret [read $fileId] } close $fileId return $ret } # Writes the text to the specified file. proc writefile {filename text {hexcode 0}} { set fileId [open $filename w] if {$hexcode} { set ret [puts -nonewline -hexcode $fileId $text] } else { set ret [puts -nonewline $fileId $text] } close $fileId return $ret } # Replace $search with $replace in $filename If $bak is # specified the original file is moved to that position. proc freplace {search replace filename {bak \"\"}} { if {$bak!=\"\"} { set ofilename $filename$bak exec mv $filename $ofilename } else { set ofilename $filename } writefile $filename [replace $search $replace [readfile $ofilenam\ e]] } # replace $search with $replace in files matching $glob withing # $dirname. Example to convert CR to LF for all .h and .c # files in /Users/scott/project: # dreplace \"\\015\" \"\\012\" \"/Users/scott/project\" \"*.[\ hc]\" proc dreplace {search replace dirname glob} { foreach file [split [exec find $dirname -name $glob -print] \"\\n\ \"] { freplace $search $replace $file .bak } } proc filenames {} { global NXFilenamePboardType return [split [pasteboard read $NXFilenamePboardType] \"\\t\"] } proc replacein {search replace filenames} { set glob \"\" foreach filename $filenames { if {[file isdirectory $filename]} { if {$glob==\"\"} { set glob \"*\" } set glob [promptpanel \"Which Files in `[file tail $filename]'?\"\ $glob] if {$glob==\"\"} { set glob \"*\" } dreplace $search $replace $filename $glob } else { freplace $search $replace $filename .bak } } } proc preplacein {search replace} { return [replacein $search $replace [filenames]] } "; "Window Size" = "{ 709.000, 402.000}"; | "Menu Item" = "Conversions/Convert CR to CRLF"; "Receive Type" = "NXAsciiPboardType"; "Send Type" = "NXAsciiPboardType"; "Tcl" = "\ preplace \"\\015\" \"\\015\\012\" "; | "Menu Item" = "Conversions/Convert CR to LF"; "Receive Type" = "NXAsciiPboardType"; "Send Type" = "NXAsciiPboardType"; "Tcl" = "\ preplace \"\\015\" \"\\012\" "; | "Menu Item" = "Conversions/Convert CR to LF In"; "Send Type" = "NXFilenamePboardType"; "Tcl" = "\ preplacein \"\\015\" \"\\012\" "; | "Menu Item" = "Conversions/Convert CRLF to CR"; "Receive Type" = "NXAsciiPboardType"; "Send Type" = "NXAsciiPboardType"; "Tcl" = "\ preplace \"\\015\\012\" \"\\015\" "; | "Menu Item" = "Conversions/Convert CRLF to LF"; "Receive Type" = "NXAsciiPboardType"; "Send Type" = "NXAsciiPboardType"; "Tcl" = "\ preplace \"\\015\\012\" \"\\012\" "; | "Menu Item" = "Conversions/Convert CRLF to LF In"; "Send Type" = "NXFilenamePboardType"; "Tcl" = "\ preplacein \"\\015\\012\" \"\\012\" "; | "Menu Item" = "Conversions/Convert LF to CR"; "Receive Type" = "NXAsciiPboardType"; "Send Type" = "NXAsciiPboardType"; "Tcl" = "\ preplace \"\\012\" \"\\015\" "; | "Menu Item" = "Conversions/Convert LF to CRLF"; "Receive Type" = "NXAsciiPboardType"; "Send Type" = "NXAsciiPboardType"; "Tcl" = "\ preplace \"\\012\" \"\\015\\012\" "; | "Menu Item" = "Conversions/Convert LF to CRLF In"; "Send Type" = "NXFilenamePboardType"; "Tcl" = "\ preplacein \"\\012\" \"\\015\\012\" "; | "Menu Item" = "Conversions/Remove CR"; "Receive Type" = "NXAsciiPboardType"; "Send Type" = "NXAsciiPboardType"; "Tcl" = "\ preplace \"\\015\" \"\" "; | "Menu Item" = "Conversions/Remove CR In"; "Send Type" = "NXFilenamePboardType"; "Tcl" = "\ preplacein \"\\015\" \"\" "; | "Menu Item" = "Conversions/Remove LF"; "Receive Type" = "NXAsciiPboardType"; "Send Type" = "NXAsciiPboardType"; "Tcl" = "\ preplace \"\\012\" \"\" "; # End TickleServices Data Later, -- scott hess <scott@nic.gac.edu> <I can handle NeXTMail, but don't like it> 12901 Upton Avenue South, #326 Burnsville, MN 55337 (612) 895-1208 Anytime! <C++: ... 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From: luomat@alleg.edu (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NextMail question Date: 18 Nov 1993 23:11:28 GMT Organization: Allegheny College Distribution: world Message-ID: <2cgvf0$5ff@ftp.alleg.edu> References: <CEDMAN.93Nov18104734@capitalist.princeton.edu> In article <CEDMAN.93Nov18104734@capitalist.princeton.edu> cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes: RTF[riendly]FAQ. =-=-= Thanks for clarifying the acronym Carl, so hot headed young pups won't shoot of their mouth before they really know you! {anyone who has been around this group for awhile should catch the reference. For clarification, "he" can be reached at the below email addess listed in my sig file :-} -- Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College, Meadville PA USA Using: NS 3.1 Black NeXT Mail Welcomed
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: tjhendry@mcs.drexel.edu (Jonathan Hendry) Subject: Re: Can't dynamically load class (SpewView) Message-ID: <1993Nov18.042523.17780@netnews.noc.drexel.edu> Sender: news@netnews.noc.drexel.edu Organization: Drexel University, Dept. of Math. and Comp. Sci. References: <2cd8ci$83s@hermod.uio.no> <BYER.93Nov17114108@birch.mv.us.adobe.com> Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1993 04:25:23 GMT Scott Byer (byer@mv.us.adobe.com) wrote: : In article <2cd8ci$83s@hermod.uio.no> jmm@king.econ.lsa.umich.edu (Jeffrey K. MacKie-Mason) writes: : > I grabbed the SpewView module for BackSpace off the archives and : > loaded it. But when BackSpace tries to load it, it gives me : > an error panel saying "Could not dynamically load class: Spew : > View." Can someone tell me what obvious, stupid thing I've : > done wrong? : Most likely, you're running 3.0 and it's a 3.1 module. FAT bundles : don't work in 3.0. Actually, I discovered that it was having trouble with "fmod()". libm.a isn't linked in, apparently. fmod is used when setting the text color. Since I have a mono cube I just commented it out, rebuilt the module, and it works fine. If you want color, I suppose you'll have to get it to link in the math library. -- Jonathan W. Hendry Inexpensive NeXTSTEP Consulting tjhendry@mcs.drexel.edu For Your "Not-So-Mission-Critcal" Apps
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Middle button for X? Date: 18 Nov 1993 22:23:25 -0000 Organization: me organized? That's a joke! Message-ID: <2cgskt$5p5@steffi.demon.co.uk> References: <2bo67g$bju@skates.gsfc.nasa.gov> <CGCE7y.L1M@agedwards.com> <2ce4i0$nvv@alamut.cognet.ucla.edu> Don't forget you have to turn the right button on in Preferences.
From: claspac@tallis.ucsc.edu (Jas-Russell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Wanted: source for Terminal Emulation Window or Vi like Text Object Date: 19 Nov 1993 03:33:24 GMT Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz Message-ID: <2cheq4$ngn@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> Keywords: palette library source I would like to build an app style front end to Vi with better hooks than are possible with Stuart and Terminal tricks. It would be really neat to have a set of code that builds on the NeXT supplied "sup-process" example which provides its own filter of some kind to handle the terminal emulation of Vt100 for the sub-process. The source for simpler versions of the Terminal or Stuart apps is what I am hoping to find or buy. Also handy would be a sub-class of the text object which provides Vi style editing functionality and a block cursor rather than the blinking insert cursor. Anybody done this? If there is anybody who can provide a hint as to public domain sources for this stuff or who would like to sell their own code for this stuff please contact me. Thanks! E-mail: claspac@cats.ucsc.edu Voice: 408-459-2060 FAX: 408-429-0146
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: janet@lighthouse.com (Janet Hufnagel) Subject: Re: problem scaling eps files in Diagram2! Message-ID: <1993Nov19.053409.821@lighthouse.com> Keywords: diagram eps Sender: janet@lighthouse.com Organization: Lighthouse Design, Ltd. References: <1993Nov18.100327.15566@lighthouse.com> Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1993 05:34:09 GMT Kathi, You're right that in Diagram!1.1, if you resize the document via Page Layout or Zoom, and then save to EPS, the EPS reflects the on-screen size of the document; however, in Diagram!2.0 neither the Page Layout nor Zoom affects the size of saved EPS. All you can do is resize the drawing. (You may know this, but if you use the Alt key when you resize, it will resize proportionately.) We've heard about this from several people... we'll definately consider putting it back for a future version of Diagram! If you have problems or questions you can mail to diagram@lighthouse.com and we usually respond fairly quickly. Janet Hufnagel Lighthouse Design In article <1993Nov18.100327.15566@lighthouse.com> "Kathi Fisler" <kfisler@cs.indiana.edu> writes: > I've got a Diagram2! document saved to both diagram2 and eps formats. > I want the eps version to be scaled to 50% of the size of the original > drawing. I know in the old version of Diagram one could do this by > zooming the drawing window and then using SaveTo. I have tried both > that and setting the "scale" feature under Page Layout, but nothing > seems to affect the size of the eps file that I get out (the diagram > format file does save with the set scaling factor though). Any > suggestions? I can edit the eps file by hand to get the desired > effect, but I'd rather find a way to do this directly from Diagram2!. > Thanks. > -- > Kathi Fisler kfisler@cs.indiana.edu > > Visual Inference and Hardware Methods Laboratories, Indiana University
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: raptor!rlove (Robert B. Love ) Subject: Re: NoteAbility from Ciusa Inc Message-ID: <1993Nov19.070917.2312@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> Sender: rlove@nugget.rmNUG.ORG Organization: Rocky Mountain NeXT Users' Group References: <9311171732.AA18599@dcs.shef.ac.uk> Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1993 07:09:17 GMT In article <9311171732.AA18599@dcs.shef.ac.uk> M.Crawford@dcs.sheffield.ac.uk (Malcolm Crawford) writes: > The contact details I have for Ciusa are as follows: > > Gerard T. Schwartz (President) > 3208 W. Lake Street > Suite 133 > Minneapolis > MN 55416 > > Vox: (612) 822 1604 > Email: g_schwartz@ciusa.com > Is Ciusa really in business? I've been after them for 4 weeks to send me an evaluation copy of DateWise, their calendar program. Multiple calls are always answered with "maybe next week" Has anybody actually bought anything from them? -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Love rlove@raptor.rmnug.org (NeXT Mail OK) BIX: rlove -----------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: root@flute.music.gla.ac.uk Subject: Parabase and Reporting Message-ID: <CGp2FK.A7x@udcf.glasgow.ac.uk> Sender: news@udcf.glasgow.ac.uk Organization: Glasgow University Computing Service Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1993 15:44:04 GMT We've got version 1.1 of IP Design's Parabase database application. Has anybody out their got the Reporting to work properly? If so I'd really appreciate some pointers or examples. Ken
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: cowboy@omega.csuohio.edu (Joe Rosenfeld) Subject: Re: Compiling ispell 4.0 on NeXT... Message-ID: <1993Nov19.141339.7560@news.csuohio.edu> Sender: news@news.csuohio.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Cleveland State University References: <1993Nov18.171121.17882@sol.UVic.CA> Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1993 14:13:39 GMT Michael O'Henly (mohenly@malahat.library.uvic.ca) wrote: : Has anyone built ispell 4.0 under NS3.0? : I get this error... : cc -c -I. -DBSD=1 -DRETSIGTYPE=void -DHAVE_STRING_H=1 : -DHAVE_STRINGS_H=1 -DDICT_ : LIB=\"/usr/local/lib/ispell\" -g build.c : build.c: In function `find_slot': : build.c:421: argument `hindex' doesn't match function prototype : build.c:421: a formal parameter type that promotes to `int' : build.c:421: can match only `int' in the prototype : *** Exit 1 : Stop. : As usual (sigh), I would appreciate any advice. I had the same trouble until I used gcc (version 2.4.5 then) to compile it and all was well. Cowboy -- | Joe Rosenfeld j.rosenfeld@csuohio.edu | Automation Librarian (216) 687-6881 [FAX] | CSU Law Library trans.csuohio.edu [ANON FTP] | NeXTMail and MIME ok
From: brunkhorst@mayo.edu (Geoff Brunkhorst) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Where do I get the Intel Pro/GX SCSI Driver for 3.2 Date: 19 Nov 1993 16:32:57 GMT Organization: Mayo Foundation Distribution: world Message-ID: <2cisfp$605@fermat.mayo.edu> in NeXTAnswers posting 1209 NeXT writes.... >The Intel GX Professional displays at a resolution of1024 x 768 This is noted as being obsolete a couple of paragraphs down... >in16 bit color under NEXTSTEP. The computer offers a high degree >of built-in integration including video (the ATI Mach 32 chip >set), sound, SCSI, and IDE. The integrated sound and SCSI are >supported under NEXTSTEP Release 3.2. On-board SCSI is supported >by a third party driver. Who and how do I get this yet-to-be-named 3rd party driver? It's not in the Compatibility Guide nor in this NeXTanswer... Thanks -- - Geoff ----------------------------------------------------------------- Geoffrey Brunkhorst brunkhorst@Mayo.edu Research Computing Facility, Guggenheim 10 (507) 284-1805 Mayo Foundation, Rochester MN, 55905, USA fax (507) 284-5231
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Alexis Rzewski <rzewski@NorthStar.com> Subject: question about Parabase Message-ID: <9311191644.AA03409@NorthStar.com> Sender: root@news.cs.indiana.edu (Operator) Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University Date: Fri, 19 Nov 93 11:44:04 -0500 Hi, does anyone know wether it is possible to access an existing database in Gupta Technology's SQLBase using Parabase? I created a database and a bunch of tables and indexes using Gupta's Sqltalk, but Parabase doesn't see it. Am I missing something? Also, I noticed that when creating a database using Parabase, the data types of the columns that where created using Parabase's UI objects CharTextField, and TimeField from the palette, are of type VARCHAR and FLOAT; is there a way to force them to be CHAR and TIMESTAMP (or DATETIME) instead? - Alexis
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: davec@comspec.com (Dave Carlton) Subject: Free/Shareware FAX software available by FTP for Cube? Organization: Comspec Communications, Inc. Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1993 07:51:56 GMT Message-ID: <CGqB6L.8wK@comspec.com> - My friend recently upgraded his USRobotics modem to the 21.4K Dual with Fax. He's in need of a FAX package for his 040-25Mhz Cube. Ideas? He's dying to use it, and I've not yet noticed such a beast on the 'net... Thanks in advance and please Email me if you have any info. - -- | Dave Carlton - davec@comspec.com | Path: uunet.ca!comspec!davec | | What's the matter, you dissentious rogues, That, rubbing the poor | | itch of your opinion, make yourselves scabs? - SHAKESPEARE, Coriolanus |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: rab@cs.cmu.edu (Robert Brennan) Subject: Re: Speech Recognition for NeXT, II Message-ID: <CGqvun.H40.2@cs.cmu.edu> Sender: news@cs.cmu.edu (Usenet News System) Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon References: <1993Nov16.231951.100760@zeus.aix.calpoly.edu> Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1993 15:18:20 GMT In article <1993Nov16.231951.100760@zeus.aix.calpoly.edu> mrothste@keiko.acs.calpoly.edu (Rothstein) writes: > In article <2bjdl2$smn@email.tuwien.ac.at> joggl@neuro.tuwien.ac.at > (Joachim Kainz) writes: > > > > I know that this question was already posted here some weeks ago, but > > somehow I missed the answer: So please may somebody be patient with me > and > > tell me if there is good speech recognition software for the NeXT. > > > > BTW: I already tried SimonSays but that application only recognizes a > very > > tiny subset of natural language. (But, if somebody would like to control > > the NeXT-UI with voice <-> it works great for that restricted task!) > > > > Greetings from Vienna, > > Joachim. > > > > -- > > > > Joachim F. Kainz | Phone: ++43-1-58801-4132 > > VCNN, TU Wien | Fax: ++43-1-504-1580 > > The answer is yes and no. The best (to my knowledge) speaker independent > software available anyware was developed on and is still available for > NeXTSTEP. The original project was called SPHINX and was a Carnigie (sic) > Melon University. I believe it is now controlled and sold by CMs software > company (sorry I don't have the info on they handy). It was from this > project that Apple got the person responsible for casper. > > The no is that personal computers are not yet fast enough to do direct > dictation (realtime-speaker independent-analog->digital conversion and > hashing on a dictionary large enough for dication perposes). > > -Mont > > NeXTmail OK :-) > mrothste@data.acs.calpoly.edu Our belief is that the best speaker-independent continuous-speech recognition systems available today are a result of the SPHINX project at Carnegie Mellon University (CMU). Obviously this is a very biased opinion given that I am part of the speech project at CMU. Much of the SPHINX work has been done on NeXT computers because 4 years ago they were about the only machine that allowed simple high quality audio input via the DSP port. Today that restriction is not as prevalent because many machines come with the ability to have high quality audio input or can easily be configured to have it. However the speech effort at CMU has never relied on any single platform for development. We currently have an environment that consists of NeXTs (dozens), Dec alphas (dozens), HP 7000 series (a few), windows NT based PCS, Sun (Sparcs and older machines), Dec 5000 series machines and probably others that I have failed to list. We are not tied to any one machine, haven't been and will not be in the future. As for the availability of the SPHINX software: Carnegie Mellon does not have a 'software company' as far as I am aware of. However there are a number of spinoff companies that commercialize the technology developed at CMU. The SPHINX technology is available from Applied Speech Technologies is a product called the SpeechKit. The SpeechKit is a toolkit for building speech recognition capabilities into your own custom applications. SpeechKit comfortably handles up to 2000 word vocabularies and allows the person to speak in natural sentences without pausing between words and without training the system to his/her voice. It is ideal for applications such as form filling or other data entry in applications where a user's hands and/or eyes are busy doing something else. Currently the SpeechKit runs on NeXT computers (Motorola) and will run on Intel as soon as NeXT provides reliable/stable sound support (hopefully in 3.2). There are also ports of the SpeechKit to Sun Sparc computers and to Windows NT machines (66MHz and higher). Again these comments are also very biased because I am the founder of Applied Speech Technologies. If you want more info send me some email or talk to Paget Press. The SpeechKit is available on the current release of the Electronic AppWrapper from Paget Press. As for unlimited dictation: CMU has systems that are getting very good at unlimited dictations types of tasks but unfortunately you cannot afford the hardware necessary to run such systems just now. As we continue to improve the recognition technology, as hardware prices continue to fall, and as the efficiency of the algorithms improve; we will start seeing commercially available recognition products that are based on this latest CMU technology. But you may have to wait a little while yet. Bob -- +----------------------------------------------------------------+ | Robert Brennan | | Carnegie Mellon University email: Robert_Brennan@cmu.edu | | School of Computer Science phone: 412-268-3806 | | 5000 Forbes Avenue fax: 412-452-6763 | | Pittsburgh, PA 15213-3891 |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: cedar@cedar.demon.co.uk (Cedar Systems) Subject: Where can I get ShowAndTell? Distribution: world Organization: Cedar Systems Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1993 16:56:20 +0000 Message-ID: <753728180snz@cedar.demon.co.uk> Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk Hi, I was just looking at NXJournaler class and it mentions the ShowAndTell application in /NextDeveloper/Demos. I have a second-hand machine and this demo is not on it. Can someone tell me where I can get hold of it? Thanks, Paul.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore) Subject: Re: problem scaling eps files in Diagram2! Message-ID: <CGq2rI.EJ@genoa.com> Sender: alex@genoa.com (Alex Blakemore) Organization: Genoa Software Systems References: <1993Nov17.164428.6783@news.cs.indiana.edu> Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1993 04:50:04 GMT "Kathi Fisler" <kfisler@cs.indiana.edu> writes > I've got a Diagram2! document saved to both diagram2 and eps formats. > I want the eps version to be scaled to 50% of the size of the original > drawing. I know in the old version of Diagram one could do this by > zooming the drawing window and then using SaveTo. ------------------------------------------ if you are making eps files to include in latex documents, you can instead control the scale inside the .tex file. thats easier anyway. put the next line before \begin{document} \def\epsfsize#1#2{0.75#1} % change 0.75 to any zoom factor you want % Put that at the beginning of your text, or within % a single {figure}, before the \epsffile command, if you want to scale each % eps file differently. -- Alex Blakemore alex@cs.umd.edu NeXT mail accepted
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc From: esprit@netcom.com (Alan F. Perry) Subject: What the hell is this? Message-ID: <espritCGr8A2.AzB@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1993 19:46:49 GMT In response to a problem that I was having with my machine, someone sent me a uuencoded file called .tar.584.Re__Upgrade_problem.attach. What is it and how do I use it to fix my problem? The problem is with upgrading 3.0 to 3.0J. -- ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Alan F. Perry | Life is short, but by achieving greater speeds esprit@netcom.com (home) | a man can make his life a little longer and allan@lynx.com (work) | more affluent - Soichiro Honda
From: bestor@caracal.cs.wisc.edu (Gareth Bestor) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Q: Jana CD-ROM news - Any news? Message-ID: <1993Nov19.220706.11206@cs.wisc.edu> Date: 19 Nov 93 22:07:06 GMT Sender: news@cs.wisc.edu (The News) Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept. Has anyone received issue 4 of Jana's CD-ROM news yet?!? - Gareth (bestor@cs.wisc.edu)
From: hkusumo@socs.uts.EDU.AU (Haris Kusumo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: pages Date: 20 Nov 1993 08:56:48 +1100 Organization: School of Computer Science, UTS Message-ID: <2cjff0$7u2@syzygy.socs.uts.edu.au> Summary: pages Keywords: pages Hello. Can any body tell me what is pages by pages is ? is it the same as pasteUp ? Can you tell me if they have a student version for pages by pages ? Does diagram is a flowcharting program ? Can you also tell me if diagram has a student version ? Thanks is advance. I'll be appreciated if you could send me some e-mail. My e-mail address : hkusumo@socs.uts.edu.au
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jimbo@oingo.umn.edu Subject: Pasting to Mail Message-ID: <CGrMwI.43A@news2.cis.umn.edu> Sender: news@news2.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1993 00:59:30 GMT Ok, often times I want to copy an article I've read off the NewsNet and paste it into NeXT's Mail app to mail to people who don't have the time to readthe news. When I paste into the mail app, the mail becomes a NeXT mail message and the people Im mailing to cant read it. Even when I change the font to currier it still stays NeXTMail! Anyone know how to get around this?? --- -------------------------------------------------------------------- James P. Klett klett@sunrayce.solar.umn.edu jimbo@oingo.umn.edu (SLIP) -------------------------------------------------------------------- Slip Slipping' away... --------------------------------------------------------------------
From: bihr@next.informatik.hu-berlin.de (Tom Bihr) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Converting .draw to .raster or .tiff format Date: 19 Nov 1993 08:59:27 GMT Organization: Humboldt University Berlin, Department of Computer Science Distribution: world Message-ID: <2ci1tf$n6u@hahn.informatik.hu-berlin.de> References: <1993Nov18.202953.18288@mcshub.dcss.mcmaster.ca> In article <1993Nov18.202953.18288@mcshub.dcss.mcmaster.ca> wucolin@popeye.CIS.McMaster.CA (Colin Wu) writes: > Does anyone know of a program/way/incantations for converting a .draw file to > either raster or Tiff format? Failing that, is there a decent drawing program > on the NeXT that will save files in .tiff or raster format? I think, Draw.app does the job by itself. There is the menu entry Document-Save in. It appeares a Dialog containing radio buttons "Save File as" o Draw o PostScript o TIFF. Tom P.S.: For E-Mail please use adress bihr@hp832.informatik.hu-berlin.de --- Tom Bihr Humboldt-Universitaet zu Berlin Fachbereich 16 - Informatik - Sitz: Lindenstrasse 54a Unter den Linden 6 10099 Berlin Telefon: +49 30 20181306 E-Mail (NeXT-Mail willkommen): bihr@informatik.hu-berlin.de ___ _ | | ) Let the good times Roll... | |_)
From: mallen@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Mark Allen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: SLIP problems Date: 20 Nov 1993 01:58:20 GMT Organization: Pickled Herring Lobby Message-ID: <2cjtjs$o1e@news.acns.nwu.edu> I am having a few problems setting up DialUp IP and was looking for some help. I know that someone else out in netland was also having problems with a loopback. Unfortunately I missed out on the thread. Could he or someone else give me some hints on what it going wrong exactly? The problem is that the modem picks up right after the daemon is started. The computer then thinks that it is connected to a remote site and starts sending packets. This endlessly loops... I left the machine on for three hours thinking it would give up, but to no avail. I finally had to use the hardware interrupts and get single user status... No NeXT mail please! (At least not yet!) :) -- mallen@nwu.edu Quis custodiet ipsos custodes. Juvenal, Satires, VI, 347
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: cbradley@bozell.com (Chris Bradley) Subject: Re: question about Parabase Message-ID: <1993Nov19.224525.25630@bozell.com> Sender: news@bozell.com Organization: Bozell, Jacobs, Kenyon & Eckhardt, Inc. References: <9311191644.AA03409@NorthStar.com> Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1993 22:45:25 GMT In article <9311191644.AA03409@NorthStar.com> Alexis Rzewski <rzewski@NorthStar.com> writes: > Hi, > > does anyone know wether it is possible to access an existing database > in Gupta Technology's SQLBase using Parabase? I created a database > and a bunch of tables and indexes using Gupta's Sqltalk, but Parabase > doesn't see it. Am I missing something? Yes; Robert Dyas of IP Design has recently (< 6 mo. ago) announced a strategic partnership with Gupta, and has been porting Gupta's SQLbase to NEXTSTEP. He has also been working on a Parabase adapter for SQLbase. Emails to: info@parabase.com -- Chris Bradley | cbradley@bozell.com Techno-Slave, with Many Masters | +1 214 830 2273 vox Bozell, Jacobs, Kenyon & Eckhardt, Inc. | +1 214 830 2687 fax Advertising and Public Relations | "Born ready"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: smb3u@delton.psyc.virginia.edu (Steven M. Boker) Subject: Re: Q: Jana CD-ROM news - Any news? Message-ID: <CGryuB.LxJ@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU Organization: University of Virginia, Department of Psychology References: <1993Nov19.220706.11206@cs.wisc.edu> Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1993 05:20:34 GMT In article <1993Nov19.220706.11206@cs.wisc.edu> bestor@caracal.cs.wisc.edu (Gareth Bestor) writes: >Has anyone received issue 4 of Jana's CD-ROM news yet?!? > Yes, and I must say that I'm extremely disappointed. There are about 10 or 15 NeXT programs on the disk. The rest is Linux stuff. I don't know how these guys sleep at night knowing that they sold people a bimonthly subscription to a CDROM for a year. I've received a total of 4 issues, and now they say "that's all folks". Chalk it up to bad karma, I guess. Steve -- #====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====# # Steven M. Boker # "Two's bifurcation # # boker@virginia.edu # but three's chaotic" # #====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com (Ron Pomeroy x(Coop)) Subject: Re: Pasting to Mail Message-ID: <CGs0Bz.7JK@dvorak.amd.com> Sender: news@dvorak.amd.com (Usenet News) Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin TX References: <CGrMwI.43A@news2.cis.umn.edu> Distribution: usa Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1993 05:52:47 GMT In article <CGrMwI.43A@news2.cis.umn.edu> jimbo@oingo.umn.edu writes: >>Ok, often times I want to copy an article I've read off >>the NewsNet and paste it into NeXT's Mail app to mail to >>people who don't have the time to readthe news. When I >>paste into the mail app, the mail becomes a NeXT mail >>message and the people Im mailing to cant read it. Even >>when I change the font to currier it still stays NeXTMail! >>Anyone know how to get around this?? >> Yea, select Non-NeXT at the top of the compose window -- Ronald Pomeroy Advanced Micro Devices CAM Applications Group rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jgg@LoftTech.com (J. G. Gregory) Subject: Re: Q: Jana CD-ROM news - Any news? Message-ID: <1993Nov20.035705.2015@LoftTech.com> Sender: jgg@LoftTech.com Organization: LoftTech Incorporated References: <1993Nov19.220706.11206@cs.wisc.edu> Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1993 03:57:05 GMT In article <1993Nov19.220706.11206@cs.wisc.edu> bestor@caracal.cs.wisc.edu (Gareth Bestor) writes: >Has anyone received issue 4 of Jana's CD-ROM news yet?!? > >- Gareth (bestor@cs.wisc.edu) I got something resembling a distribution from JANA, but I don't really know what it is. Here is why: The disk has absolutely no markings. The disk has very strange and apparently broken files on it. There is only one directory under "next", and it is called Utilities. This directory contains a bunch of files like Foo.app.README that I couldn't read, and no Foo.app anywhere. I don't have the CD drive connected at the moment, or I would post the directory listing, but it appears that I got the CD-ROM equivalent of a "short shot". If anyone got a real disk, let me know. --J Gregory
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,de.comp.sys.next From: manroe@manki.toppoint.de(Manfred Roehr) Subject: FRAME Makers address? Message-ID: <CGsw4G.88@manki.toppoint.de> Sender: manroe@manki.toppoint.de (Manfred Roehr) Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1993 17:19:28 GMT Hi, I want to know e-mail address from FRAME MAKER. Can anybody tell me? I ve heard about lower price now, is it so? thanks for it Manfred -- *************************************************************** * Manfred Roehr e-mail: manroe@toppoint.de * * Elisabethstrasse 88 fax: +49 431 733 483 * * 24143 Kiel phone: +49 431 73 45 39 * * Germany NeXT-mail welcome * ***************************************************************
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: pages Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Date: 20 Nov 1993 18:30:14 GMT Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office Message-ID: <2clnnm$dpj@news.mic.ucla.edu> References: <2cjff0$7u2@syzygy.socs.uts.edu.au> Pages is a completely different program from pasteup. pasteup is more traditional, pages more radical. From what I understand, pasteup is the "draw" of the dtp world, pages is the "diagram" of the dtp world (where draw and diagram refer to popular NS programs). There are some problems with both. PasteUp needs quite a bit of little bug-fixing to reliably work, as expected by a user. With a new enthusiastic owner, I am optimistic. Pages has been promised to ship for months, and hasn't yet. Diagram!2 has one of the greatest edu deals for students, ever. Call NeXTConnection at (800) 800-NeXT. It works great for flow-charting. /ivo Haris Kusumo (hkusumo@socs.uts.EDU.AU) wrote: : Hello. : Can any body tell me what is pages by pages is ? : is it the same as pasteUp ? : Can you tell me if they have a student version for pages by pages ? : Does diagram is a flowcharting program ? : Can you also tell me if diagram has a student version ? : Thanks is advance. : I'll be appreciated if you could send me some e-mail. : My e-mail address : hkusumo@socs.uts.edu.au -- Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu Asst Prof of Finance iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu AGSM at UCLA
From: lones@lones.mit.edu (Lones A. Smith) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Remote use of NeXTMail Date: 20 Nov 1993 20:32:23 GMT Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology Message-ID: <2clusn$27u@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Hi, When I am logged into my NeXT via telnet from another location, how do I NeXTMail a ps file, say? Sincerely curious, Lones A. Smith Department of Economics, MIT E52-252C, Cambridge MA 02139 voice: (617) 253-0914 [fax: (617) 253-6915]
From: luomat@alleg.edu (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Remote use of NeXTMail Date: 20 Nov 1993 20:46:03 GMT Organization: Allegheny College Distribution: world Message-ID: <2clvmc$14p@ftp.alleg.edu> References: <2clusn$27u@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> In article <2clusn$27u@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> lones@lones.mit.edu (Lones A. Smith) writes: When I am logged into my NeXT via telnet from another location, how do I NeXTMail a ps file, say? If you ftp cs.orst.edu, cd to /pub/next/submissions, there are two files: send_attach.README, and send_attach.compressed. Get both of those, uncompress send_attach.compressed, install it in your ~/Unix/bin. You can mail any file or folder with this. It's great. It is the end product of the work of: Joe Freeman Electronic Mail Joe@FreemanSoft.com (NeXT Mail) -- Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College, Meadville PA USA Using: NS 3.1 Black NeXT Mail Welcomed
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller) Subject: Lucid Emacs? (was: Re: Emacs 19 under NS natively) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 References: <JWZ.93Oct28171918@thalidomide.lucid.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Organization: Gerhard Moeller, German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg. Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1993 13:19:13 GMT Message-ID: <1993Nov20.131913.794@proximus.north.de> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, though this thread is really old (looks like I haven't had time to read news for a while...): Jamie Zawinski (jwz@lucid.com) wrote: > Carl Edman <cedman@princeton.edu> wrote: > > [...Port of emacs 19.19 to NS...] > > Sounds great! It sure is. Is it available on an archive by now? Where? If not, why? > > The reason it is not on the archives yet is that the Free Software > > Foundation and Richard Stallman consider our NeXT port a nuisance at > > best and have refused to accept our code. Well, I think you can release it anyhow, it's just not distributed by FSF. So what? I would really love to have it... ;-) > [...Lucid Emacs...:] > If you (or anyone else) would like to try to make similar changes to Lucid > Emacs, I'll help out in any way I can (including putting it in the standard > distribution.) Now, this sounds good, doesn't it? Is there someone in the community who is on that? Gerhard. -- +---------------------------< principiis obsta! >---------------------------+ N Gerhard Moeller, Hetzg. 32/11, A-1030 Wien (Austria) [*: 02/21/1968] N e Private: gemoe@proximus.north.de Phone (voice): +43-1-7151531 e X Uni: Gerhard.Moeller@arbi.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE NeXTmail X T Z-Net: Gerhard.Moeller@uniol.zer encouraged! T +-> NoGeNUG - Northern German NeXT User Group: NoGeNUG@proximus.north.DE <-+
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller) Subject: Re: Calendar program? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 References: <1993Nov16.000910.9715@wuphys.wustl.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Organization: Gerhard Moeller, German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg. Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1993 09:46:04 GMT Message-ID: <1993Nov19.094604.263@proximus.north.de> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Donald N. Petcher (petcher@howdy.wustl.edu) wrote: > Is there a nifty little calendar program (PD or otherwise) for NS Motorola > that can be used to set appointments and ring reminder alarms for meetings > and the like? I haven't seen one, and I could use one. Cassandra.app -> Shareware/PD (Archives) Date.app -> prior NeXT demo (Ask someone with 2.1) Dater.app -> 42ToolDisk [info@forty-2.de] PMI.app -> PencilMeIn [Sarrus, I don't have the email Adress handy, sorry.] PMI is really good, but expensive and more a group scheduler. So if you want to use it alone, it is too expensive. PMI in its latest version has an interface to SBook. Make sure to check out the 42 Tooldisk. The Program Dater.app is really great and has an interface to Adress.app which is on the Tooldisk as well. (Also Album.app (like the Mac Album) and ASCIIConverter, which converts ASCII und RTF Format between NeXT, Mac and PeeCee.) Cassandra was shareware, but is -- I THINK - released to PD. (Please check.) But I didn't like the interface. Hope it helped, Gerhard. -- +---------------------------< principiis obsta! >---------------------------+ N Gerhard Moeller, Hetzg. 32/11, A-1030 Wien (Austria) [*: 02/21/1968] N e Private: gemoe@proximus.north.de Phone (voice): +43-1-7151531 e X Uni: Gerhard.Moeller@arbi.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE NeXTmail X T Z-Net: Gerhard.Moeller@uniol.zer encouraged! T +-> NoGeNUG - Northern German NeXT User Group: NoGeNUG@proximus.north.DE <-+
From: briggman@rock.concert.net (David B Briggman -- Personal Account) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Update on WordPerfect for NeXTSTEP 6.0 Date: 21 Nov 1993 00:18:03 GMT Organization: CONCERT-Connect Public Access UNIX Message-ID: <2cmc3r$373@inxs.concert.net> I had a call from WordPerfect's UNIX Group yesterday. Supposedly, because of EXTREME competition from Microsoft Corporation, WordPerfect has not only put development of 6.0 on hold for NeXTSTEP, but has ceased development on ALL UNIX platforms until they see if they are going to "weather the storm." Its too bad really, after using WordPerfect for the Macintosh, we had pretty good things to look forward to. I was also informed that WordPerfect and NeXT were supposed to have made a joint announcement regarding WordPerfect - but now I don't think it'll happen. Dave -- Advanced Business Systems 919.682.8553 19 Joci Court [fax] 919.682.1126 Durham, North Carolina 27704 briggman@rock.concert.net A NeXTSTEP-only Reseller Hardware, Software and Peripherals
From: hkusumo@socs.uts.EDU.AU (Haris Kusumo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: login prompt Date: 21 Nov 1993 10:59:05 +1100 Organization: School of Computer Science, UTS Message-ID: <2cmb09$g3m@syzygy.socs.uts.edu.au> Summary: login prompt Keywords: login prompt Hi, guys. I am new to NeXT, I just manage to install NeXT 3.1 on my machine. Can you tell me how come when I startup the computer or logout from my workspace I don't get my login window. Can you tell me how to activate it so it display the login window whenever I logout or startup my computer. The problem is I want to install development packages and it requires root previleges. If I couldn't get the login window prompt, how can I login as a root. I'll be appreciated if you could send me (e-mail) for the reply as soon as possible. Thanks in advance. Note: my e-mail address: hkusumo@socs.uts.edu.au
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: login prompt Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1993 21:17:32 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Chemistry, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <Igvgywi00iV6I7zpQn@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <2cmb09$g3m@syzygy.socs.uts.edu.au> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.misc: 21-Nov-93 login prompt by Haris Kusumo@socs.uts.EDU > I am new to NeXT, I just manage to install NeXT 3.1 on my machine. > Can you tell me how come when I startup the computer or logout from my > workspace I don't get my login window. > > Can you tell me how to activate it so it display the login window whenever > I logout or startup my computer. The problem is I want to install > development packages and it requires root previleges. If I couldn't get the > login window prompt, how can I login as a root. You should create a password for your default account (user "me"). You can do this from the Preferences app or by entering "passwd" in a Terminal window. From "man loginwindow": If there is an account for the user 'me', and that account has no password, then the loginwindow program does not actu- ally go through the login procedure; rather, it immediately executes the Workspace for that user. This can be disabled by holding down the left mouse button while loginwindow is starting. Once you do this, then you can logout and then login as root (and you definitely should set a root password as well, once you're in.) -Chuck Charles William Swiger -- CMU...*splat*! | 1. You can't fly. --------------------------------------------+ 2. Cars are always real, even AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | when they're not. Failing that: cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu | 3. Police are not your friends. NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | 4. Fire burns.
From: ctm@ardi.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Update on WordPerfect for NeXTSTEP 6.0 Message-ID: <CGtIsC.9p5@boa.cs.unm.edu> Date: 21 Nov 93 01:29:02 GMT Article-I.D.: boa.CGtIsC.9p5 References: <2cmc3r$373@inxs.concert.net> Sender: news@boa.cs.unm.edu Organization: ARDI If NEXTSTEP makes it to 6.0, I bet WordPerfect will port to it. --Cliff ctm@ardi.com
From: theharv@csld.ucr.edu (Brian Harvey) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Using gzip instead of compress Date: 21 Nov 1993 07:30:19 GMT Organization: University of California, Riverside Message-ID: <2cn5eb$eph@galaxy.ucr.edu> Is there anyway of changing which "program" is used in the WorkSpace Menu's Compress and Decompress menu items? Instead of it using "compress", can I set it up to use "gzip" and "gunzip"? ----------------------------------------------------------------- Brian Harvey * theharv@csld.ucr.edu University of California, Riverside * brian@cs.ucr.edu -----------------------------------------------------------------
From: hkusumo@socs.uts.EDU.AU (Haris Kusumo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXT driver Date: 22 Nov 1993 00:28:57 +1100 Organization: School of Computer Science, UTS Message-ID: <2cnqep$l6e@syzygy.socs.uts.edu.au> Summary: NeXT driver Keywords: NeXT driver Hello. First I'd like to thanks for the reply about the login window probs. have a #9GXE video card, since I only have NeXT 3.1 and NeXT 3.1 doesn't support #9GXE card, I just wondering if I get the driver from NeXT 3.2 and install it on my NeXT 3.1 (will it works ?). If not can you tell me where I can get the driver for video driver that I can use with #9GXE card. I know NeXT 3.2 support it, its just I could not get the hold of it until next year (thats what NeXT dealer told me). So for the time being I am stuck with standard vga (640x480 res and in grey scale. arch.....) I'll be appreciated if you could send me some e-mail. Thanks in advance. Note: my e-mail address: hkusumo@socs.uts.edu.au
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore) Subject: Re: Using gzip instead of compress Message-ID: <CGuFvB.13r@genoa.com> Sender: alex@genoa.com (Alex Blakemore) Organization: Genoa Software Systems References: <2cn5eb$eph@galaxy.ucr.edu> Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1993 13:23:35 GMT Brian Harvey writes > Is there anyway of changing which "program" is used in the WorkSpace > Menu's Compress and Decompress menu items? Instead of it using "compress", > can I set it up to use "gzip" and "gunzip"? yes, try something like dwrite Workspace compress /usr/bin/gzip dwrite Workspace uncompress /usr/bin/gunzip dwrite Workspace AlwaysTarForCompress Yes dwrite DarkForest compress /usr/bin/gzip you then must of course be careful exporting compressed files to other people (rename them .tar.gz or something) but it saves more than enough disk space to be worth it IMHO. Importing compressed files from others isnt a problem of course due to gunzips flexibility. -- Alex Blakemore alex@cs.umd.edu NeXT mail accepted
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mark@xexos.com (Mark Chamberlain) Subject: Re: NeXT driver Message-ID: <1993Nov21.152140.18554@xexos.com> Sender: news@xexos.com Organization: Xexos, Ltd (London) References: <2cnqep$l6e@syzygy.socs.uts.edu.au> Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1993 15:21:40 GMT In article <2cnqep$l6e@syzygy.socs.uts.edu.au> hkusumo@socs.uts.EDU.AU (Haris Kusumo) writes: > Hello. > > First I'd like to thanks for the reply about the login window probs. > > have a #9GXE video card, since I only have NeXT 3.1 and NeXT 3.1 > doesn't support #9GXE card, I just wondering if I get the driver > from NeXT 3.2 and install it on my NeXT 3.1 (will it works ?). > 3.2 drivers don't work under 3.1. Wait for the upgrade to 3.2. 3.2 using the #9 GXE card looks really nice. 1280x1024x8bit mono. -- Mark Chamberlain +44 71 237 4535 Xexos Ltd fax +44 71 231 0844 London mark@xexos.com
From: luomat@alleg.edu (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Using gzip instead of compress Message-ID: <2cocof$4u8@ftp.alleg.edu> Date: 21 Nov 93 18:41:19 GMT References: <CGuFvB.13r@genoa.com> Organization: Allegheny College If I were to do this, how could I make opener.app able to unarchive files with a .compressed extention. I do not have write permissions for the app (opener) itself, so I can't add anything to the app itself. Is there a dwrite I could use to tell Opener.app where to look for the compression.bundle? Thanks~ TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College, Meadville PA USA Using: NS 3.1 Black NeXT Mail Welcomed
From: luomat@alleg.edu (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Using gzip instead of compress Message-ID: <2coeep$5kb@ftp.alleg.edu> Date: 21 Nov 93 19:10:17 GMT References: <2cocof$4u8@ftp.alleg.edu> Organization: Allegheny College Well, I think I have the answer to my own question, please correct me if I am wrong. WM will still know how to unarchive .compressed files even if you change the default of which archive it uses. No matter which method you use, you will get a .compressed extention on the file. Thanks for any corrections. TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College, Meadville PA USA Using: NS 3.1 Black NeXT Mail Welcomed
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller) Subject: Re: Painless Zmodem/Ymodem/Xmodem on NeXTSTEP? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 References: <2bc1lm$6dh@news.doit.wisc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Organization: Gerhard Moeller, German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg. Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1993 16:16:03 GMT Message-ID: <1993Nov21.161603.3047@proximus.north.de> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Michael Giddings (giddings@whitewater.chem.wisc.edu) wrote: > Hi, > I was trying to download some stuff from a bulletin board that supports only > YModem, XModem, and Zmodem protocols. I got the sz/rz stuff, but I can't > figure out a reasonable way to first navigate through all the menus on the > bulletin board (using kermit), then to escape from kermit and to get rz to > connect to the other machine to download (I don't think it was meant to work > this way). > > Are there any easy solutions for downloading stuff using Z, Y, or X modem on > NeXTSTEP? There is a commercial application, MicroPhone, which would be perfect for things like that. But there should be a few PD or Shareware applications on the archives as well. G. -- +---------------------------< principiis obsta! >---------------------------+ N Gerhard Moeller, Hetzg. 32/11, A-1030 Wien (Austria) [*: 02/21/1968] N e Private: gemoe@proximus.north.de Phone (voice): +43-1-7151531 e X Uni: Gerhard.Moeller@arbi.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE NeXTmail X T Z-Net: Gerhard.Moeller@uniol.zer encouraged! T +-> NoGeNUG - Northern German NeXT User Group: NoGeNUG@proximus.north.DE <-+
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller) Subject: Re: Remembering SimCity CD Rumors... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 References: <^d%@byu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Organization: Gerhard Moeller, German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg. Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1993 16:39:39 GMT Message-ID: <1993Nov21.163939.3189@proximus.north.de> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Don Yacktman (yackd@alaska.et.byu.edu) wrote: [...] > Well, here's what I've been working on: [...] WOW! -- Can't wait to get my productivity level below 60%...! :-) BTW: I also would like to get a nethack with GUI ... ;-) (Just kidding, or maybe not?...) Gerhard. -- +---------------------------< principiis obsta! >---------------------------+ N Gerhard Moeller, Hetzg. 32/11, A-1030 Wien (Austria) [*: 02/21/1968] N e Private: gemoe@proximus.north.de Phone (voice): +43-1-7151531 e X Uni: Gerhard.Moeller@arbi.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE NeXTmail X T Z-Net: Gerhard.Moeller@uniol.zer encouraged! T +-> NoGeNUG - Northern German NeXT User Group: NoGeNUG@proximus.north.DE <-+
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller) Subject: Re: Parser for Archived c.s.n.x Files Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 References: <1993Nov15.221139.9178@leland.Stanford.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Organization: Gerhard Moeller, German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg. Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1993 16:47:00 GMT Message-ID: <1993Nov21.164700.3270@proximus.north.de> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sha Xin Wei (xinwei@otter.Stanford.EDU) wrote: [...] > How about a "News2DigitalLibrarian" ? This was posted a long time ago, it worked then but I'm not sure if it still does. Try it and maybe modify it acordingly. (Plese post me a copy of the running script... ;-) ) I forgot who the author was. Gerhard. ------------------8< -------------------------- #!/bin/csh # Grab the "Subject:" line for the description echo '#\!/bin/sh' >/tmp/getDesc echo 'grep "^Subject: " $1 | sed "s@Subject: @$1 @g"' >>/tmp/getDesc chmod u+x /tmp/getDesc foreach file (`find . \( -name ".?*" -prune \) -o -type f -print`) set grazerLine =3D `/usr/bin/egrep -n '^\-\- NewsGrazer, a NeXTstep\(tm\) news reader, posting \-\-$' < $file | cut -f1 -d":"` if ("$grazerLine" !=3D "") then /usr/local/bin/printf "File:\t%s\nZeile:\t%s\n\n" $file $grazerLine cp $file $file.bak head -$grazerLine $file > $file.tmp mv $file.tmp $file echo $file | ixBuild -r -V -d'/tmp/getDesc %s' mv $file.bak $file else echo $file | ixBuild -r -V -d'/tmp/getDesc %s' endif end ------------------8< -------------------------- -- +---------------------------< principiis obsta! >---------------------------+ N Gerhard Moeller, Hetzg. 32/11, A-1030 Wien (Austria) [*: 02/21/1968] N e Private: gemoe@proximus.north.de Phone (voice): +43-1-7151531 e X Uni: Gerhard.Moeller@arbi.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE NeXTmail X T Z-Net: Gerhard.Moeller@uniol.zer encouraged! T +-> NoGeNUG - Northern German NeXT User Group: NoGeNUG@proximus.north.DE <-+
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller) Subject: Re: DL and RTF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 References: <1993Nov15.220955.9077@leland.Stanford.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Organization: Gerhard Moeller, German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg. Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1993 16:51:34 GMT Message-ID: <1993Nov21.165134.3339@proximus.north.de> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sha Xin Wei (xinwei@otter.Stanford.EDU) wrote: > I drag a folder of RTF files, originally created by Mac/Microsofft Word 5.x, > into Digital Librarian, then ask DL to index it. But a search by word fails to > show anything. > > Are there filters for rtf or WriteNow that I need? > If you have anything, I can take'm in nextmail: xinwei@otter.stanford.edu. rtf-ascii should be (beyond other *-ascii) programs either in your $PATH or in /usr/lib/indexing This should work, Gerhard. -- +---------------------------< principiis obsta! >---------------------------+ N Gerhard Moeller, Hetzg. 32/11, A-1030 Wien (Austria) [*: 02/21/1968] N e Private: gemoe@proximus.north.de Phone (voice): +43-1-7151531 e X Uni: Gerhard.Moeller@arbi.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE NeXTmail X T Z-Net: Gerhard.Moeller@uniol.zer encouraged! T +-> NoGeNUG - Northern German NeXT User Group: NoGeNUG@proximus.north.DE <-+
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: ggerard@Alex.Engr.Trinity.Edu (Greg Gerard) Subject: rwho is broken -- how can I fix it? Message-ID: <1993Nov21.222920.2097@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> Sender: news@ringer.cs.utsa.edu Organization: Trinity University, San Antonio TX. USA Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1993 22:29:20 GMT rwho and ruptime both return negative or absurd values for machines on our network. I have a feeling that it somehow relies on byte ordering by not using network byte ordering utils (this is white hardware and so the natural form of things is little-endian and not big-endian(nwbo).) Is there a drop in replacement for these two utilities? thanks, greg
From: Roland Telfeyan <roland@gomidas.mi.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Demo of SoftPC (Windows) not working on my ND. Help? Date: 22 Nov 1993 01:10:46 GMT Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept. Distribution: world Message-ID: <2cp3im$bfk@zip.eecs.umich.edu> References: <2bs2va$a69@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> I've noticed this strange behavior as well. Try making sure that at all times the SoftPC window is NOT the active window or SoftPC is NOT the active application until you actually get your MS Windows workspace to come up. Seems to work every time! Roland
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: chipsig@kaiwan.com (<Chip> H. Sieglinger) Subject: intuitiv3d Message-ID: <CGvCyD.B1v@kaiwan.com> Organization: KAIWAN Internet Access (310-527-4279,714-539-0829,830-6061,818-579-6701) Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1993 01:18:12 GMT I've just started playing with intuitiv3d, a modelling and rendering program for black hardware. I purchased it educationally, so it's by guess and by golly figuring the app out. Is anyone working with the program, and is there a place on the net where info is exchanged specific to intuitiv3d? Is anyone using another 3d program that they like? This app is good, but I've yet to break the full code. As an aside, is there any software that takes advantage of the power of the NeXTdimension? I had hoped to see an accelerated graphics environment with the ND, but within the limits of my software I have not. thanks all, Chip
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Sale$ Figure$ Message-ID: <1993Nov20.154837.1@fac.cabot.nf.ca> From: cs2a2@fac.cabot.nf.ca Date: 20 Nov 93 15:48:37 +1000 I am looking for some information (preferably some sales figures) about how much software has been sold last year. A one-year total rounded to the nearest billion would be sufficient and much appreciated. Tony....
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: ror@netcom.com (RatSnatcher) Subject: Hooking a NeXT to the net... Message-ID: <rorCGvrss.DBy@netcom.com> Summary: What's the best way to hook a NeXT up to the Internet? Keywords: Internet, communications Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1993 06:38:51 GMT I am currently dialing into a shell account using TIP from my NeXT box (Intel), but I find it kind of crazy. I want to hook it up so that I can receive NeXTMail and maybe use the some client programs. What's the best thing to do? Should I go with a UUCP connection? Can I use PPP? I can get a UUCP, a PPP, or a SLIP connection with no problem, but I only have a 14.4 modem connection. I'm sort of leaning towards UUCP right now because then I could at least sent and receive mail from my own machine (right?). Do I need any special software? If so what should I buy? Is anyone else doing what I'm talking about here? Thanks, Zach -- ror@netcom.com ~RoR-Alucard~
From: murao@kobe-u.ac.jp Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: GatorFTP.app version 1.3 FAT anyone ? Message-ID: <murao.93Nov22154347@blueslab> Date: 22 Nov 93 20:43:47 GMT References: <jwdb.752789211@dutnak2> Sender: news@icluna.kobe-u.ac.jp (news-admin) Distribution: comp Organization: Information Processing Center Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 Dear Sir: > The 1.4 update to GatorFTP.app is not an improvement, as it crashes too > often with the message: unlocked focus on wrong view (or such). On both > architectures. Also the promised animated icon does not materialize. I had pointed out this phenominon and wondered about bug of GatorFTP1.4 for Intel. GatorFTP1.4MAB works well if there is no .gatorftprc, but if there is .gatorftprc (in spite of version), GatorFTP crashes with above message. > Can anyone point me to where they still keep a copy of version 1.3 (FAT) > In our enthousiasm we deleted the previous version a little tiny bit > too early. > Or if some one wants to mail me a copy, that's OK of course, but please > reply to this article first. I know only two sites CIRCUS.YORKU.CA(130.63.216.22) and GRADIENT.SCITEC.KOBE-U.AC.JP(133.30.90.16). --- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hajime Murao <murao@kobe-u.ac.jp> -*- NeXTmail gladly accepted !! Graduate School of Science and Technology, Kobe University, Japan Phone 078-881-1212 (ext.2733) / FAX 078-882-4888 / NIFTY NAA01617
From: joggl@neuro.tuwien.ac.at (Joachim Kainz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Update on WordPerfect for NeXTSTEP 6.0 Date: 22 Nov 1993 09:41:25 GMT Organization: Technical University Vienna, Austria Message-ID: <2cq1g5$p8r@email.tuwien.ac.at> References: <CGtIsC.9p5@boa.cs.unm.edu> ctm@ardi.com writes > If NEXTSTEP makes it to 6.0, I bet WordPerfect will port to it. Is there really doubt about it? Don't worry, develop apps and be happy! NS is a lot better then NT 6.0 can be. -- Phone: ++43-1-58801-4132 Fax: ++43-1-504-15 Email: Joachim.Kainz@neuro.tuwien.ac.at
From: seubert@cip.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Klemens Seubert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Database Application Date: 22 Nov 1993 13:25:47 GMT Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany Message-ID: <2cqekr$rke@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> Hi, I am looking for a database-application that runs on black hardware with NS 3.0. A graphic userinterface (a la NeXTSTEP) would be great. Thanks, Klemens -- Klemens Seubert Universitaet Wuerzburg Institut fuer Angewandte Mathematik email: seubert@cip.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de NeXTmail welcome
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Hooking a NeXT to the net... Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1993 10:24:20 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Chemistry, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <wgwBaYu00iV6M2N7ZA@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <rorCGvrss.DBy@netcom.com> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 22-Nov-93 Hooking a NeXT to the net... by RatSnatcher@netcom.com > I want to hook it up so that I can receive NeXTMail and maybe use the some > client programs. What's the best thing to do? Should I go with a UUCP > connection? Can I use PPP? I can get a UUCP, a PPP, or a SLIP connection > with no problem, but I only have a 14.4 modem connection. > > I'm sort of leaning towards UUCP right now because then I could at least > sent and receive mail from my own machine (right?). UUCP would only allow you to do mail, and would be a pain to set up correctly. Use either SLIP or PPP; they will do mail correctly, and will also allow you to ftp and telnet directly from your machine. You can even have multiple connections open at the same time, although don't expect good interactive response if you try to ftp & do something else at the same time. > Do I need any special software? If so what should I buy? Is anyone else > doing what I'm talking about here? Yes. I would suggest getting DialUpIP SLIP by Louis Mamakos; which is available now for black hardware for free (I don't know about NS/FIP). This is available from FTP sites like sonata.cc.purdue.edu & cs.orst.edu under a name like SLIP_<some_date>.tar. This is also a commercial product; if you want to get better performance, you can pay to get support & use CSLIP, which is faster. He's working on PPP, as well. Anyway, I use it and I'm very happy with this version of SLIP. -Chuck Charles William Swiger -- CMU...*splat*! | 1. You can't fly. --------------------------------------------+ 2. Cars are always real, even AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | when they're not. Failing that: cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu | 3. Police are not your friends. NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | 4. Fire burns.
From: scwg0600@ih-nxt01.cso.uiuc.edu (Steven C Weintz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: intuitiv3d Date: 22 Nov 1993 15:42:44 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Distribution: world Message-ID: <2cqmlk$1cs@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <CGvCyD.B1v@kaiwan.com> Keywords: 3D graphics, NeXTSTEP In article <CGvCyD.B1v@kaiwan.com> chipsig@kaiwan.com (<Chip> H. Sieglinger) writes: > I've just started playing with intuitiv3d, a modelling and rendering program > for black hardware. I purchased it educationally, so it's by guess and by > golly figuring the app out. Is anyone working with the program, and is there > a place on the net where info is exchanged specific to intuitiv3d? Is anyone > using another 3d program that they like? This app is good, but I've yet to > break the full code. I really like intuitiv'3d and have mucked with the demo version for several months now. I'm only now starting to really use the full edu version. Definitely check out the superb (and large) PS-format Tutorial. Open the intuitiv'3d app folder and find the Tutorial folder; drag it into your workspace or simply open it with Preview. It's about 30 pages and very well done. As far as I know there isn't yet a NeXTSTEP 3D watering hole, though we need one. There are RenderAmn discussion groups with much relevent and useful stuff. Gestel Italia's solidThinking MODELER is extremely powerful and will do just about anything. I personally don't care for the interface. Alembic Systems Int'l. is the US distributor; talk to Tyler Janisch (tyler@alembic.com) for more info. >As an aside, is there any software that takes advantage > of the power of the NeXTdimension? I had hoped to see an accelerated graphics > environment with the ND, but within the limits of my software I have not. Unfortunately, an ND doesn't apparently accelerate anything. I say apparently, because it gives you true-color PostScript with alpha (no mean feat) at mono speeds. So there is substantial acceleration, but it goes into providing an awesome color space, not quicker screen draws or rendering. And you can send your animations out to videotape, too! The real keys to the ND are RAM and more RAM. Other things help. I'm running a Turbo ND and it benefits greatly from the faster CPU and optimized motherboard, because so much processing really takes place in the '040, not the i860. When Matt Brandt begins distributing his 68060 upgrade next year black hardware will get a shot in the arm, although the future is a fully tweaked Pentium/Snake combo (once I'm rich and famous, of course!) Best Regards, Steve Weintz scwg0600@sumter.cso.uiuc.edu main man, EthnoGraphics a NeXTSTEP-based multimedia/graphics shop serving the anthropological profession
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) Subject: Re: Database Application Message-ID: <1993Nov22.170207.24664@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: Stanford University References: <2cqekr$rke@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> Date: Mon, 22 Nov 93 17:02:07 GMT Klemens Seubert writes > I am looking for a database-application that runs on black hardware > with NS 3.0. A graphic userinterface (a la NeXTSTEP) would be > great. Check out DataPhile. There should be a demo on the archives. -- - Stefano Pagiola Food Research Institute, Stanford University spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged) spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
From: charlesa@mailhost.learned.co.uk Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: makefile question Date: Mon, 22 Nov 93 18:40:12 PST Organization: EUnet GB Message-ID: <2cr1gk$4cu@marble.Britain.EU.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi - I'm trying to compile some code with "make" without success. When I try to run "make" in a terminal window & also using the ProjectBuilder, I get a whole slew of error messages (posted below). Before running "make", I edit a file called "config.h" (listed below) and put in info like hostname and directory. If I run "make" with the default config.h (listed here), it complies fine. Only when I edit the config.h does it complain. The "make" process doesn't seem to like any field which I remove the hash sign. beginner question: am i correct in thinking that I have to remove the hash sign for any line I want to edit, allowing "make" to 'see'? For example, the default "config.h" has the line: #define HOSTNAME "your.host.edu" which I edited to read: define HOSTNAME "my.host.edu" removing the hash at the beginning of the line so it could be recognized. I'm using NS 3.1 user+developer on Intel. I'm no programmer, and was told to just simply follow the documentation, which i've done! (promise). I'm wondering if it is something specific to NS; like maybe I need to give the makefile a different CC= setting for NS (also listed below). Thoughts would be appreciated. Charles. charlesa@mailhost.learned.co.uk ===================== error messages ===================== Making mkcache (cd mkcache; make CC="cc" CFLAGS="-I.. -I../gn " LIBS="" INSTALL="/usr/bin/install" BINDIR="/usr/local/etc") cc -I.. -I../gn -c mkcache.c ./config.h:7: undefined type, found `define' ./config.h:7: illegal external declaration, missing `;' after `HOSTNAME' ./config.h:12: undefined type, found `define' ./config.h:12: illegal external declaration, missing `;' after `ROOT_DIR' ./config.h:20: undefined type, found `define' ./config.h:20: illegal external declaration, missing `;' after`ROOT_MENU_NAME' ./config.h:25: undefined type, found `define' ./config.h:25: illegal external declaration, missing `;' after `DEFAULTPORT' ./config.h:31: undefined type, found `define' ./config.h:31: illegal external declaration, missing `;' after `ACCESSFNAME' ./config.h:33: undefined type, found `define' ./config.h:33: illegal external declaration, missing `;' after `CACHEFNAME' ./config.h:35: undefined type, found `define' ./config.h:35: illegal external declaration, missing `;' after `MENUFNAME' ./config.h:37: undefined type, found `define' ./config.h:37: illegal function prototype, found `10' ./config.h:37: illegal function definition, found `)' ./config.h:39: undefined type, found `define' ./config.h:39: illegal external declaration, missing `;' after `DECOMPRESS' ./config.h:41: undefined type, found `define' ./config.h:41: illegal function prototype, found `300' ./config.h:41: illegal function definition, found `)' *** Exit 1 Stop. *** Exit 1 Stop. ==================== config.h ==================== /* CONFIGURATION FILE FOR THE GN PACKAGE (vers 1.0) */ /* * Enter your fully qualified host name here */ #define HOSTNAME "your.host.edu" /* * Enter the complete path of your root data directory here. */ #define ROOT_DIR "/root/dir/path" /* * The ROOT_MENU_NAME set below is used as a <title> and heading * <h2> for the root menu in HTTP transactions. It has no effect * on gopher transactions. Just make it something descriptive of * your server. */ #define ROOT_MENU_NAME "GN -- A Gopher/HTTP Server" /* * If you wish to run at a different port than 70, edit this line. */ #define DEFAULTPORT "70" /* * If you wish you can change the following defaults. */ #define ACCESSFNAME ".access" #define CACHEFNAME ".cache" #define MENUFNAME "menu" #define MAXDEPTH (10) /* maximum depth of menus */ #define DECOMPRESS "/usr/net/bin/zcat" #define TIMEOUT (300) /* Time in seconds to wait before timeout */ /* Five minutes should be adequate */ ==================== top-file makefile: ==================== # # Configurable Part. # # Choice of Compiler. CC = cc #CC = gcc # # Compiler Flags (-I.. *MUST* be included) # INCLUDES= -I.. -I../gn CFLAGS = $(INCLUDES) # -DSYSV # # Libraries to be included. # LIBS = #Use this with SysV #LIBS = -lsocket -lc # # install program. SysV without GNU Utils - use cp # #INSTALL = cp INSTALL = /usr/bin/install # # Where to put the programs # BINDIR = /usr/local/etc all: gn mkcache uncache install: inst-gn inst-mkcache inst-uncache gn: gn/gn mkcache: mkcache/mkcache uncache: uncache/uncache gn/gn: @echo "Making gn" (cd gn; make CC="$(CC)" CFLAGS="$(CFLAGS)" LIBS="$(LIBS)" \ INSTALL="$(INSTALL)" BINDIR="$(BINDIR)" ) mkcache/mkcache: config.h @echo "Making mkcache" (cd mkcache; make CC="$(CC)" CFLAGS="$(CFLAGS)" LIBS="$(LIBS)" \ INSTALL="$(INSTALL)" BINDIR="$(BINDIR)") uncache/uncache: config.h @echo "Making uncache" (cd uncache; make CC="$(CC)" CFLAGS="$(CFLAGS)" LIBS="$(LIBS)" \ INSTALL="$(INSTALL)" BINDIR="$(BINDIR)") inst-gn: @echo "Installing gn" (cd gn; make CC="$(CC)" CFLAGS="$(CFLAGS)" LIBS="$(LIBS)" \ INSTALL="$(INSTALL)" BINDIR="$(BINDIR)" install ) touch inst-gn inst-mkcache: @echo "Installing mkcache" (cd mkcache; make CC="$(CC)" CFLAGS="$(CFLAGS)" LIBS="$(LIBS)" \ INSTALL="$(INSTALL)" BINDIR="$(BINDIR)" install ) touch inst-mkcache inst-uncache: @echo "Installing uncache" (cd uncache; make CC="$(CC)" CFLAGS="$(CFLAGS)" LIBS="$(LIBS)" \ INSTALL="$(INSTALL)" BINDIR="$(BINDIR)" install ) touch inst-uncache clean: @echo "Cleaning in gn" (cd gn ; make clean) @echo "Cleaning in mkcache" (cd mkcache ; make clean) @echo "Cleaning in uncache" (cd uncache ; make clean)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: esprit@netcom.com (Alan F. Perry) Subject: Running NeXTSTEP 2.x vs 3.x on a '030 NeXT (summary) Message-ID: <espritCGwq10.5Iz@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1993 18:58:12 GMT A while ago I put out a query on the differences between running NeXTSTEP 2.x on a '030 NeXT machine and running NeXTSTEP 3.x. I thought maybe others might be interested in the responses that I got. Here is my initial posting >I am running NS 3.0 on my '030 and I have been reading the FAQ which says >that NS 2.x is optimized for the '030 while NS 3.x is optimized for the '040. From: smg@orb.com (Samuel M. Goldberger) >It is true that '030 cubes run a bit faster on the earlier systems, but I do >not think the difference is worth the loss of functionality. I'd run 3.1 if I >were you. But other may feel differently, in which case I'll be happy to help. From: Peter Eisch <peter@corsica.umhc.umn.edu> >3.X is slow on an 030. But then, 2.X was slow on an 030 too. I'd suggest >that while the FAQ is correct about the optimization, maintaining two >different releases of OS' is a bit more difficult than running 3.X on the >030. In the same light, it might be fun to have 2.1 around to see the >difference between the two releases. Just a personal reaction. From: Reagen Ward <ward@hydra.cche.olemiss.edu> >2 is MUCH faster on a 030. trust me.. MUCH faster. >3 is nice, but the added productivity stuff (like renderman) really needs >more power than the 030 offers. Stick with 2.1. From: cdl@mpl.UCSD.EDU (Carl Lowenstein) >The optimization is for floating-point computations. NS2.2 and all >previous releases used floating point libraries that were optimized for >the 68030/68882 combination. This software has a lot of system overhead >when run on the 68040 because the floating point instruction set of the >'040 is incomplete with respect to the '882, and many instructions have >to be emulated in system software. > >Starting with NS3.0, a better software emulation for the '040 was >implemented, using subroutine calls rather than unimplemented- >instruction traps. This, however, slows down the 68030/68882. -- ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Alan F. Perry | Life is short, but by achieving greater speeds esprit@netcom.com (home) | a man can make his life a little longer and allan@lynx.com (work) | more affluent - Soichiro Honda
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: eric_t@cs.uiuc.edu (Eric de_la_Tribouille) Subject: Re: intuitiv3d Message-ID: <CGwrHI.3Fo@cs.uiuc.edu> Sender: news@cs.uiuc.edu Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL References: <CGvCyD.B1v@kaiwan.com> Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1993 19:29:42 GMT In article <CGvCyD.B1v@kaiwan.com> chipsig@kaiwan.com (<Chip> H. Sieglinger) writes: > I've just started playing with intuitiv3d, a modelling and rendering program > for black hardware. I purchased it educationally, so it's by guess and by > golly figuring the app out. Is anyone working with the program, and is there > a place on the net where info is exchanged specific to intuitiv3d? Is anyone > using another 3d program that they like? This app is good, but I've yet to > break the full code. As an aside, is there any software that takes advantage > of the power of the NeXTdimension? I had hoped to see an accelerated graphics > environment with the ND, but within the limits of my software I have not. > thanks all, Chip intuitiv'3d does not run only on Black hardware of course. It also obviously run under PCs running NEXTSTEP ! The package is FAT. BTW, if you are interested by beautiful 3D images designed and rendered with i3d, check the followinf packages on the FTP server cs.orst.edu in the folder /pub/next/demos/graphics : intuitiv3d-images.tar intuitiv3d-new-images.tar Those images are really great. I myself put some in my background using Scene. You will also find a demo of i3d in the same folder, as well as the i3d's FREE API which enable you to ad new modules to i3d. Best regards, - Eric ------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: ggerard@Alex.Engr.Trinity.Edu (Greg Gerard) Subject: gopher for intel machines: where's the gui version? Message-ID: <1993Nov22.203203.20378@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> Sender: news@ringer.cs.utsa.edu Organization: Trinity University, San Antonio TX. USA Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1993 20:32:03 GMT subject says it all. thanks, greg
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware From: dpeter@hsd.com Subject: HSD Products for NEXTSTEP--Complete Info Message-ID: <CGwtLu.1tC@hsd.com> Sender: usenet@hsd.com Organization: HSD Microcomputer, U.S., Inc. Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1993 20:15:29 GMT HSD Microcomputer U.S., Inc. 1095 East Duane Ave., Suite 209 Sunnyvale, CA 94086 PH. (408) 774-1400 Fax (408) 774-1402 Email: info@hsd.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- HSD Products for NEXTSTEP Product Name: PowerScan Professional Scanning Bundle List Price: $495.00 Availability: Shipping now for Motorola and Intel-based NEXTSTEP Product description: PowerScan Professional is a complete bundle of full-featured scanning applications for computers running NEXTSTEP. The PowerScan Professional bundle includes three applications: PowerScan 2.0, for scanning and image manipulation; PowerCopy, a "Services" based application which utilizes your scanner and printer to simulate a copy machine; PowerFax, a "Services" based application which utilizes your scanner and fax modem to simulate a paper fax machine. PowerScan 2.0 is a full-featured scanning and image editing application that is flawlessly integrated with the NEXTSTEP. PowerScan can be used as a service or a stand-alone application. Features include preview scanning, brightness, contrast and threshold adjustment, scaling, filtering, image manipulation, image conversion, and saving in a variety of compressed and non-compressed formats. PowerScan also supports Spectrum Enhancement, HSD's proprietary scan enhancement technology which allows you to finely tune the scanners dynamic range before scanning an image. The results are rich, vibrant images that come alive with color and contain the subtle details and nuances other scanners would miss. PowerScan 2.0 works with all HSD and Umax scanners and includes support for an optional automatic document feeder and transparency adapter. Support for additional scanners will be available soon. PowerFax is a "Services" based application which utilizes your scanner and fax modem to simulate a paper fax machine--with just a single click of your mouse! Simply put a document in your scanner, select PowerFax from the Services menu, then enter a fax number in the fax panel. Your document is automatically scanned and faxed to the destination you chose. PowerCopy is a "Services" based application which utilizes your scanner and printer to simulate a copy machine with just a single click of your mouse! Just put a document in your scanner, select PowerCopy from the Services menu, then enter the number of copies to print in the print panel. Your document is automatically scanned and the number of copies you specify are sent to your printer. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Product Name: OCR Servant List Price: $295.00 Availability: Shipping now for Motorola and Intel-based NEXTSTEP Product description: OCR Servant is an Optical Character Recognition (OCR) utility based on omnifont technology that makes text recognition of TIFF or FAX images quick and easy. Just select a region of text from a displayed image, or an entire file in the file viewer, then start OCR Servant simply by selecting it from the Services menu, just as you would select NeXTmail or Digital Webster. OCR Servant recognizes text and then displays the text in it's built-in text editor. You can then edit the text, check spelling, set fonts, adjust the layout of the text, copy and paste the text to your favorite word processor, or take advantage of other services which accept text as input. OCR Servant recognizes most common fonts and typestyles at speeds from 40 to over 200 characters per second with an accuracy rate of up to 100 percent. It supports character sizes from 8 to 36 points at resolutions between 200 and 400 dpi. OCR Servant converts scanned documents, high-resolution faxes and TIFF images into ASCII text and saves text in Rich Text Format (RTF). Features 1. High Accuracy 2. Fast Recognition Speed 3. Utilizes "omnifont" technology Benefits 1. Up to 100 percent accuracy with documents of good, scanned image quality or high-resolution computer generated fax. 2. Recognizes 40 to over 200 characters per second for fast processing of multiple pages or long documents. 3. OCR Servant utilizes "omnifont" technology to automatically recognize text. It is not necessary to "train" the system recognize characters. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Product Name: HSD Spell List Price: $149.00 includes two languages Additional Languages: $99 each Availability: Shipping now for Motorola and Intel-based NEXTSTEP Product description: HSD Spell is the international spelling software for NEXTSTEP that automatically integrates multiple language spelling capabilities into your existing applications. HSD spell can also be used as a stand- alone application or accessed as a Service from other applications. HSD Spell supports 11 international languages including Danish, Dutch, English, Finnish, French, German, Italian, Norwegian, Portuguese, Spanish and Swedish. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Company: HSD Microcomputer U.S., Inc. Product Name: UC 630 Color Scanner List Price: $1495 Includes HSD PowerScan Professional Availability: Shipping now for Motorola and Intel-based NEXTSTEP Product description: The UC 630 color scanner is built to provide users a convenient and cost-efficient tool to capture high resolution color, grayscale and line-art images into their computer. Bundled with HSD's PowerScan Professional software for NEXTSTEP, the UC 630 is a fully integrated professional scanning solution. The UC 630 has a brilliant eye for color, recognizing up to 16.8 million of them at 24-bits per pixel. Using an advanced CCD image capturing device, the UC 630 scans a color image in three passes to capture images that burst with vividness and vitality. The UC 630 supports resolution of up to 600 dpi for color and grayscale images and up to 2400 dpi for line art. It supports scanning of documents up to U.S. Legal size. Speed is another virtue of the UC 630. Average scanning time for a full size color image is just over two minutes, one of the fastest in the industry. The UC 630 has a built-in SCSI II compatible interface for easily connecting to your NeXT computer or PC running NEXTSTEP and it comes bundled with all necessary cables. The UC 630 has a one-year warranty and is backed by HSD's 30-day return policy. The UC 630 is shipped with HSD's PowerScan Professional Scanning Series--a complete bundle of full-featured scanning applications for computers running NEXTSTEP. The PowerScan Professional bundle includes three applications: PowerScan 2.0, for scanning and image manipulation; PowerCopy, a "Services" based application which utilizes your scanner and printer to simulate a copy machine; PowerFax, a "Services" based application which utilizes your scanner and fax modem to simulate a paper fax machine. PowerScan 2.0 is a full-featured scanning and image editing application that is flawlessly integrated with the NEXTSTEP. PowerScan can be used as a service or a stand-alone application. Features include preview scanning, brightness, contrast and threshold adjustment, scaling, filtering, image manipulation, image conversion, and saving in a variety of compressed and non-compressed formats. Options Include: Automatic Document Feeder--25 sheet Automatic Document Feeder for batch-scanning of multi-page documents: $495. Transparency Adapter--Transparency adapter for scanning slides, X- ray film, and transparencies: $795. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Company: HSD Microcomputer U.S., Inc. Product Name: UC 840 Color Scanner List Price: $1695 Includes HSD PowerScan Professional Availability: Shipping now for Motorola and Intel-based NEXTSTEP Product description: The UC 840 color scanner captures16.8 million colors at resolutions up to 800 dpi for grayscale or color images and up to 2400 dpi for line art. It supports scanning of documents up to U.S. Legal size. The UC 840 merges award-winning technology with state-of-the art craftsmanship, presenting crisp, clear images. Bundled with HSD's PowerScan Professional software for NEXTSTEP, the UC 840 is a powerful and versatile professional scanning solution. And with an average scanning time for a full-size color image at just under two minutes, it is one of the fastest desktop color scanners available. The UC 840 has a built-in SCSI II compatible interface for easily connecting to your NeXT computer or PC running NEXTSTEP and it comes bundled with all necessary cables. The UC 840 has a one-year warranty and is backed by HSD's 30-day return policy. The UC 840 is shipped with HSD's PowerScan Professional Scanning Series--a complete bundle of full-featured scanning applications for computers running NEXTSTEP. The PowerScan Professional bundle includes three applications: PowerScan 2.0, for scanning and image manipulation; PowerCopy, a "Services" based application which utilizes your scanner and printer to simulate a copy machine; PowerFax, a "Services" based application which utilizes your scanner and fax modem to simulate a paper fax machine. PowerScan 2.0 is a full-featured scanning and image editing application that is flawlessly integrated with the NEXTSTEP. PowerScan can be used as a service or a stand-alone application. Features include preview scanning, brightness, contrast and threshold adjustment, scaling, filtering, image manipulation, image conversion, and saving in a variety of compressed and non-compressed formats. Options Include: Automatic Document Feeder--25 sheet Automatic Document Feeder for batch-scanning of multi-page documents: $495. Transparency Adapter--Transparency adapter for scanning slides, X- ray film, and transparencies: $795. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Company: HSD Microcomputer U.S., Inc. Product Name: UC 1260 Color Scanner List Price: $2495 Includes HSD PowerScan Professional Availability: Shipping now for Motorola and Intel-based NEXTSTEP Product description: The UC 1260 color scanner captures over 16 million colors at resolutions up to 2400 dpi. And with a hardware resolution of 1200 x 600 dpi it is among the highest resolution desktop scanners available. The price/performance ratio of the UC 1260 makes it unbeatable in it's class and the perfect tool for DTP users, pre-press professionals and graphics designers. The UC 1260 utilizes proprietary Ultra View technology and built-in gamma correction so that scanned colors will always match the originals with unbeatable quality. The UC 1260 also scans grayscale and line-art images with superb results. The UC 1260 has a built-in SCSI II compatible interface for easily connecting to your NeXT computer or PC running NEXTSTEP and it comes bundled with all necessary cables. The UC 1260 has a one-year warranty and is backed by HSD's 30-day return policy. The UC 1260 is shipped with HSD's PowerScan Professional Series--a complete bundle of full-featured scanning applications for computers running NEXTSTEP. The PowerScan Professional bundle includes three applications: PowerScan 2.0, for scanning and image manipulation; PowerCopy, a "Services" based application which utilizes your scanner and printer to simulate a copy machine; PowerFax, a "Services" based application which utilizes your scanner and fax modem to simulate a paper fax machine. PowerScan 2.0 is a full-featured scanning and image editing application that is flawlessly integrated with the NEXTSTEP. PowerScan can be used as a service or a stand-alone application. Features include preview scanning, brightness, contrast and threshold adjustment, scaling, filtering, image manipulation, image conversion, and saving in a variety of compressed and non-compressed formats. Options Include: Automatic Document Feeder--25 sheet Automatic Document Feeder for batch-scanning of multi-page documents: $495. Transparency Adapter--Transparency adapter for scanning slides, X- ray film, and transparencies: $795.
From: perkins@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Steve Perkins) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: ConnectIt and TransSys PNI on NS/FIP Message-ID: <Nov.22.16.33.07.1993.24790@andromeda.rutgers.edu> Date: 22 Nov 93 21:33:08 GMT Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J. If you are using ConnectIt on NS/FIP with a Hayes compatible modem, please contact me by plain email telling me how you got it to accept your pre- ference settings. The save boox remains dimmed and does not respond. From reading the docs with TransSys PNI, my understanding it that it only works with a static SLIP/PPP connection, i.e., it can not connect to a dynamic SLIP/PPP address. Is that correct? So, besides ConnectIt, is there another NS/FIP communications program which recognizes Hayes compatible modems? TIA, Steven C. Perkins perkins@andromeda.rutgers.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: lorinr@altsys.com (Lorin Rivers III) Subject: Re: Mac and MS Windows emulators? Message-ID: <1993Nov22.220247.15088@altsys.com> Organization: Altsys Corporation, Richardson, TX References: <2c11qf$q8l@mailer.fsu.edu> Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1993 22:02:47 GMT In article <2c11qf$q8l@mailer.fsu.edu> dekorte@next1.scri.fsu.edu (Stephen Lee Dekorte) writes: > >Hi, >A friend of mine is deciding between a Mac, PC, or NeXT hardware. >He needs to run Quark Express and Photoshop and use a color scanner. >I need answers to the following to help him decide: > >What are the best Mac and MSWindows emulators for NS? >Will they run on both Intel and NeXT hardware? >Can the Intel floppy drives read NeXT and Mac disks??? >Will *all* Mac II software work with the best Mac emulator? >Will *all* MS Windows work with the MS Windows emulator? >What are the *average* speed differences?(I need a number) > >Also, > >Are Image and Virtuoso availible for NS Intel? > >Thanks for any info, >Steve > >PS. Please respond by email. Virtuoso is not currently *shipping* for Intel, but call me anyway. We anticipate early Q1. -- Lorin Rivers Lorin_Rivers@altsys.com NEXTSTEP Sales Manager 214.680.2060 269 W. Renner Parkway NeXT Mail Expected Richardson, Texas 75080 I said it, not my boss
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.muc.de (Maximilian Goedel) Subject: Re: Database Application Message-ID: <CGws5z.820@muaddib.isar.muc.de> Sender: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.muc.de (Maximilian Goedel) Organization: Michael Maximilian Goedel References: <2cqekr$rke@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> Distribution: all Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1993 19:44:23 GMT In article <2cqekr$rke@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> seubert@cip.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Klemens Seubert) writes: > Hi, > > I am looking for a database-application that runs on black hardware > with NS 3.0. > A graphic userinterface (a la NeXTSTEP) would be great. > > Thanks, > Klemens > -- > Klemens Seubert > Universitaet Wuerzburg > Institut fuer Angewandte Mathematik > email: seubert@cip.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de > NeXTmail welcome Try to get for example DATAPHILE from STONE-Design Nice Greetings from Munich -- Michael Maximilian Goedel _____________________ e-mail: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.muc.de Address: Gerhardstrasse 33 - 81543 Muenchen Telephone: +49 89 65 29 18
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: scott@abyss.ATMOS.ColoState.Edu (Scott Denning) Subject: convert ps or eps to Macintosh (epsf )? Sender: news@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU (News Account) Message-ID: <Nov22.232659.70954@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1993 23:26:59 GMT Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523 Does anybody have a utility to produce Mac-readable encapsulated postscript (with the bitmapped preview header) from real PostScript or NeXT .eps files? -- A. Scott Denning (303)491-8346 <scott@abyss.atmos.colostate.edu> Dept. of Atmospheric Science Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: makefile question Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1993 18:48:35 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Chemistry, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <ogwIzHK00WBOI=tbU9@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <2cr1gk$4cu@marble.Britain.EU.net> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.programmer: 22-Nov-93 makefile question by charlesa@mailhost.learne > If I run "make" with the default config.h (listed here), it complies fine. > Only when I edit the config.h does it complain. The "make" process doesn't > seem to like any field which I remove the hash sign. beginner question: > am i correct in thinking that I have to remove the hash sign for any line I > want to edit, allowing "make" to 'see'? > > For example, the default "config.h" has the line: > #define HOSTNAME "your.host.edu" > which I edited to read: > define HOSTNAME "my.host.edu" > removing the hash at the beginning of the line so it could be recognized. No. Do not remove the hash marks, simply change it to: #define HOSTNAME "my.host.edu" By the way, what are you trying to compile that requires the *hostname* to be compiled in like that?? -Chuck Charles William Swiger -- CMU...*splat*! | 1. You can't fly. --------------------------------------------+ 2. Cars are always real, even AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | when they're not. Failing that: cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu | 3. Police are not your friends. NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | 4. Fire burns.
From: csmith@blackplague.gmu.edu (Christian Smith) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: AFS client software Date: 23 Nov 1993 00:06:11 GMT Organization: The Gnomes of Zurich (shhh!) Distribution: world Message-ID: <2crk5j$4u8@news.intercon.com> Does anybody know if anyone has ported AFS client software to the NeXT? Thanks, -- Christian Smith aka Blackplague PGP Public Key available by finger or request.
From: cooncat@gershwin (Jessica L. Mosher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: MahJong Game--alternative source? Date: 23 Nov 1993 00:57:27 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Distribution: world Message-ID: <2crn5n$c24@agate.berkeley.edu> Hi. The tarred file for MahJong on sonata.cc.purdue.edu is missing tiffs, and archie won't cough up any other places to get this game. Does anyone know another place where I can get it? .tar.Z format is preferable, but .tar.gz is okay. Thanks!!!!!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc From: esd@slurpee.colorado.edu (Ed DeBolt) Subject: Is there a librarian type program for non NeXT machines Message-ID: <CGx4C5.8Cy@Colorado.EDU> Keywords: Librarian non-NeXT Sender: news@Colorado.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: University of Colorado at Boulder Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1993 00:07:16 GMT My Digital librarian is great. Reason alone to own NeXTSTEP but are there any programs out there for SUN's and/or SGI's that will accomplish most of the same function. I would not expect it to open up the document with a double click but if you could specify a target directory and it gave back a list of documents with the number of times the phrase matched and on what line numbers there was a match. Any Ideas? I would post this to a SUN or SGI group but they wouldn't get the concept. Thanks --- Ed DeBolt Jr esd@slurpee.colorado.edu National Snow and Ice Data Center Boulder Colorado
From: hal@alfred.econ.lsa.umich.edu (Hal Varian) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Is there a librarian type program for non NeXT machines Date: 23 Nov 1993 01:20:06 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Message-ID: <2crog7$mro@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu> References: <CGx4C5.8Cy@colorado.edu> Keywords: Librarian non-NeXT In article <CGx4C5.8Cy@colorado.edu> esd@slurpee.colorado.edu (Ed DeBolt) writes: > > >My Digital librarian is great. Reason alone to own NeXTSTEP but are >there any programs out there for SUN's and/or SGI's that will accomplish >most of the same function. > >I would not expect it to open up the document with a double click but if >you could specify a target directory and it gave back a list of >documents with the number of times the phrase matched and on what line >numbers there was a match. > >Any Ideas? > Sure--WAIS. I use it all the time; for most things it is better than Digital Librarian, because it understands more formats (mboxes, news, man pages, etc.) Ask Archie for the site nearest you... -- Hal.Varian@umich.edu Hal Varian voice: 313-764-2364 Dept of Economics fax: 313-764-2364 Univ of Michigan Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1220
From: wayne@unixg.ubc.ca (Wayne Henriques) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Mail Merge and WriteNow2.1 Examples Please!?! Date: 23 Nov 1993 01:45:34 GMT Organization: The University of British Columbia Message-ID: <2crpvu$jtv@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> I need help building a merge template in WriteNow 2.1; could someone please take a moment and NeXTMAIL me a couple examples. Thanks wayne
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: cowboy@omega.csuohio.edu (Joe Rosenfeld) Subject: Anyone used SoftPC on 3.2 FIP yet? Message-ID: <1993Nov23.030805.17530@news.csuohio.edu> Sender: news@news.csuohio.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Cleveland State University Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1993 03:08:05 GMT Hey can anyone report on how SoftPC running on a white 3.2 machine performs? I am curious about speed, clarity of graphics, how the DOS tcp/ip works, and how the Novell NetWare connectivity is. Please go easy on the MessyDOS comments :-) I don't much like it meself. regards- Joe -- | Joe Rosenfeld j.rosenfeld@csuohio.edu | Automation Librarian (216) 687-6881 [FAX] | CSU Law Library trans.csuohio.edu [ANON FTP] | NeXTMail and MIME ok
From: mycroft@colourbox.utexas.edu (Alex Currier) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: CD-ROM software Date: 23 Nov 1993 03:21:31 GMT Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas Message-ID: <2crvjr$dq4@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> After seeing the new JANA CD-ROM I've decided that I'm going to release a disk of my own. I figure I can just copy the contents of my tmp directory onto a CD every three or four months and ship it, forget about silkscreened labels or inserts or even a jewelbox or shrinkwrap. I'm sure everyone would be happy to pay me $50 or $60 a year for a subscription. Honestly though, how hard could it be? I've got several hundred megs of quality G rated GIFs/TIFFs and JPEGs, a hundred or so megs of soundfiles and I scam at least 150MB of apps and demos a month from the various archives (and I test them and arrange them by topic and recompress them uniformly). Maybe I should print a CD (and I could put my own art and music on it too, with switches that let you turn them off if you don't like them). Anyone want to commit to purchasing a membership so I can see what kind of demand there might be? -- ============================================================================== Alex Currier * mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu * NeXTmail capable!! 0000000700F6208F479D391F0D205D6F055500000007DB58CE6FCA79D9FB19BCD42807B6 ==============================================================================
From: scott@nic.gac.edu (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Using gzip instead of compress Date: 22 Nov 93 23:06:52 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Message-ID: <SCOTT.93Nov22230652@nic.gac.edu> References: <2cn5eb$eph@galaxy.ucr.edu> <CGuFvB.13r@genoa.com> In-reply-to: alex@cs.umd.edu's message of Sun, 21 Nov 1993 13:23:35 GMT In article <CGuFvB.13r@genoa.com>, alex@genoa.com (Alex Blakemore) writes: Brian Harvey writes >> Is there anyway of changing which "program" is used in the >> WorkSpace Menu's Compress and Decompress menu items? Instead of >> it using "compress", can I set it up to use "gzip" and "gunzip"? > >yes, try something like > >dwrite Workspace compress /usr/bin/gzip >dwrite Workspace uncompress /usr/bin/gunzip >dwrite Workspace AlwaysTarForCompress Yes > >dwrite DarkForest compress /usr/bin/gzip > > >you then must of course be careful exporting compressed files to >other people (rename them .tar.gz or something) but it saves more >than enough disk space to be worth it IMHO. Importing compressed >files from others isnt a problem of course due to gunzips flexibility. Another option is to avoid subverting the .compressed file type and use this nice little TickleService which was posted to the tickle-services mailing list a couple months ago. To install it copy it using "Services/Tickle Services/Copy As Service" (copy from "# Begin ..." to "# End ...") and paste it into your Archive.ts file. It uses findcmd to find the tar and gzip commands (findcmd searches likely spots and asks you if what it finds is acceptable). It also uses the WSNotify auxiliary program to keep the Workspace up-to-date under NS3.x. Usage is simple, and is noted in the comments at the top of the file. It's slick with the Command-Shift-Z accelerator because you can just hit the accelerator and forget about it. # Begin TickleServices Version 1.02mab Data "Key Equivalent" = "Z"; "Menu Item" = "Archive/Gzip"; "Send Type" = "NXFilenamePboardType"; "Tcl" = "\ # Generic gzip service # (original from David Meyer <dmm0t@rincewind.mech.virginia.edu>) # (Modifications from Scott Hess <scott@nic.gac.edu>) # If a directory is selected, tar and gzip it # If a .tar.[zZ] or .tar.gz is selected, gunzip and untar it. # If a .compressed is selected, gunzip and untar it, and delete .com\ pressed file # (same behavior as Workspace) # if a .[zZ] or .gz is selected, gunzip it # otherwise, gzip whatever is selected. # Make certain the target directory is writable. set filenames [filenames] set dirname [file dirname [lindex $filenames 0]] if {![file writable $dirname]} { alertpanel \"Gzip\" \"`$dirname' is not writable.\" return } # Locate critical executables foreach prog \"gzip tar\" { if {[findcmd $prog]==\"\"} { return } } foreach file $filenames { set fname [file tail $file] case $file { {*.tar.Z *.tar.z *.tar.gz *.compressed} { set pwd [pwd] cd $dirname if {[catch {exec [findcmd gzip] -dc $fname | [findcmd tar\ ] -xf -} msg]!=0} { set savedInfo $errorInfo cd $pwd if {$msg==\"\\n gzip: stdout: Broken pipe\"} { error $msg $savedInfo } } cd $pwd WSNotify if {[string match *.compressed $file]} { exec [findcmd rm] -f $file } WSNotify } {*.Z *.z *.gz} { exec [findcmd gzip] -d $file WSNotify } default { if {[file isdirectory $file]} { set pwd [pwd] cd $dirname if {[catch {exec [findcmd tar] -cf - $fname | [findcm\ d gzip] -c > $fname.tar.gz} msg]!=0} { set savedInfo $errorInfo catch {exec [findcmd rm] -rf $fname.tar.gz} cd $pwd } cd $pwd WSNotify if {[alertpanel \"Gzip\" \"Created `$fname.tar.gz', r\ emove `$file'?\" \"Remove\" \"Don't Remove\"]==1} { exec [findcmd rm] -rf $file } WSNotify } else { exec [findcmd gzip] $file WSNotify } } } } WSNotify "; # End TickleServices Data Later, -- scott hess <scott@nic.gac.edu> <I can handle NeXTMail, but don't like it> 12901 Upton Avenue South, #326 Burnsville, MN 55337 (612) 895-1208 Anytime! <C++: ... One Language to bring them all and in the darkness bind them> <In the Land of Redmond where the Shadows lie.>
From: ringger@cs.rochester.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Diagram!2: Using Diagrams & Palettes from v.1.0 Message-ID: <199311230501.AAA10303@slate.cs.rochester.edu> Date: 23 Nov 93 05:01:20 GMT Sender: ringger@cs.rochester.edu (Eric Ringger) Organization: University of Rochester Computer Science Dept Cc: info@lighthouse.com Hi. I'm running Diagram!2 on a non-Turbo NeXTstation. I'm also the proud owner of Diagram!1.0 and have many documents and palettes from my v.1.0 days. However, I haven't been able to successfully use either my 1.0 diagrams or palettes in Diagram!2. I'm aware of the fact that Lighthouse has significantly improved the document file format. But did they provide backward compatibility for their old file format? I hope so. Please let me know by mail, and I'll summarize the responses. An unrelated question: Is it possible to change the size of arrow-heads in version 2.0? Thanks, --Eric --- Eric K. Ringger ringger@cs.rochester.edu Dept. of Computer Science University of Rochester Phone: (716) 275-0922 Rochester NY 14627-0226 FAX: (716) 461-2018 ||| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |||
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: AFS client software Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1993 01:32:15 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Chemistry, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Distribution: world Message-ID: <QgwOtju00iV44FOuoR@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <2crk5j$4u8@news.intercon.com> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 23-Nov-93 AFS client software by Christian Smith@blackpla > Does anybody know if anyone has ported AFS client software to the NeXT? If you are referring to the Andrew File System, then yes. Contact info@transarc.com (I believe that's the right userid) for more information. -Chuck Charles William Swiger -- CMU...*splat*! | 1. You can't fly. --------------------------------------------+ 2. Cars are always real, even AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | when they're not. Failing that: cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu | 3. Police are not your friends. NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | 4. Fire burns.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software From: mike@lorax.com (Mike Ferris) Subject: MOKit Version 0.9 Release 2 Available Message-ID: <CGxGn2.1M8@lorax.com> Sender: mike@lorax.com (Mike Ferris) Organization: Stultus Enterprises Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1993 04:33:01 GMT Hello, Announcing MOKit Version 0.9 Release 2 -------------------------------------- This is to let anyone who's interested know that a new version of MOKit is available at cs.orst.edu. For those who missed the first version, MOKit is a collection of Objective-C objects which provide a variety of useful functions. They are available in source code form. Many of the objects are palettized for IB. Others have example programs which show their use. See the README file at cs.orst.edu for more details. The new release is version 0.9 Release 2. It adds two new objects, upgrades a few more, and has a lot of other minor changes and bug fixes. If you are using release 1, I urge you to use release 2 instead. ____________________________________________________________ Mike Ferris When you're up to your ass in mike@lorax.com alligators, it's hard to remember Rubicon Software your initial objective was to (510) 652-2039 drain the swamp.
From: riley@nextchair.csfac.uwlax.edu (David Riley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: gopher for intel machines: where's the gui version? Date: 23 Nov 1993 13:49:39 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin - La Crosse Message-ID: <2ct4dj$93@alfred.acs.uwlax.edu> References: <1993Nov22.203203.20378@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> I am also interested. I've emailed Jim Lebay (lebay@mercury.cl.msu.edu) twice and have yet to receive a reply. Has anyone recompiled the gopher client FAT? Does anyone have source for the NeXT client software? David D. Riley (Dave) Computer Science Professor (608) 785-6806 Acting Director of Academic Computing (608) 785-8029 University of Wisconsin - La Crosse La Crosse, WI 54601
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: img@aisb.ed.ac.uk (Ian Green) Subject: XNeXT x11r5 server on cs.orst.edu Message-ID: <IMG.93Nov23140424@achtriochtan.aisb.ed.ac.uk> Sender: news@aisb.ed.ac.uk (Network News Administrator) Organization: Department of Artificial Intelligence, University of Edinburgh Date: 23 Nov 93 14:04:24 I have put a monochrome Xnext X11R5 server in pub/next/submissions/XNeXT-R5-Server-NS2.1-binary on cs.orst.edu. This was compiled from the XNeXT sources packaged by Doug Scott, on a nextstation running NS 2.1. It works on my machine, but no promises. (ftp this in binary mode, then install it +x as $XBIN/Xnext. You must ensure that /dev/vid0 can be read/written by Xnext when it is executing) -ian
From: cahalan@clouds.gsfc.nasa.gov (Robert F. Cahalan) Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.programm,comp.sys.next.software Subject: OpenStep Date: 23 Nov 1993 16:31:04 GMT Organization: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center -- InterNetNews site Distribution: world Message-ID: <2ctds8$jch@skates.gsfc.nasa.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In June 1994 NeXT will release "OpenStep" to the public domain This will be a full and open version of their operating system interface, with the full object heirarchy, the Interface Builder, and the underlying messaging system. NeXT expects to have a full port running on Sparc by Q4, and Sun expects to have the interface, with DPS, running on top of Solaris, and bundled with every version of Solaris sometime in 1995. Apparently, Sun is moving away from X in favor of NeXT, but not necessarily in favor of Mach. The Gnu folks have discussed the production of a public domain heirarchy of Objective C objects, but not much has happened partly because they wanted to avoid conflict with NeXT commercial products. This new announcement means that GNU can simply build on NeXT's existing heirarchy of objects. Comments, Dr. Stallmann? Also, how about a version of OpenStep for linux? Comments, linux developers? --Bob-- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ .Dr. Robert F. Cahalan (Bob)...#..Laboratory for Atmospheres...... .cahalan@clouds.gsfc.nasa.gov..#..NASA-Goddard Space Flight Center .*** NeXTMail accepted ***.....#..Greenbelt, MD 20771............. .FAX: (301) 286-1627...........#..voice: (301) 286-4276........... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: gary@nshade.uah.ualberta.ca (Gary Ritchie) Subject: Weather.app bug Message-ID: <1993Nov23.155216.27102@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1993 15:52:16 GMT There is a bug in the current version of Weather.app (1.1) which sometimes causes it to say "Conneccting" forever. If you see this, chances are it *has* connected (after the usual network delays) and the menu items will work. The "fetch these fields after connecting" stuff won't work when this problem occurs. I have a good idea why this is happening, but it may be a week before I have the time to fix it and release a new vesrion. -- Gary Ritchie : NeXT Programmer Department of Medicine (Neurology) : University of Alberta Hospital gary@uaneuro.uah.ualberta.ca : NEXTMAIL Welcome (403) 492-8648
From: cahalan@clouds.gsfc.nasa.gov (Robert F. Cahalan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programm,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: The SunSoft/NeXT Agreement Date: 23 Nov 1993 16:46:28 GMT Organization: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center -- InterNetNews site Distribution: world Message-ID: <2ctep4$jpi@skates.gsfc.nasa.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Contact: Karen Andre SunSoft 415-336-3890 or Karen Logsdon NeXT Computer, Inc. 415-780-3786 or Emily Cohen Hi-Tech Communications 415-904-7000 SUNSOFT AND NeXT PARTNER TO DRIVE VOLUME OBJECT STANDARD NeXT to Publish Open Specification; SunSoft Licenses Implementation for Use in Solaris SAN FRANCISCO, November 23, 1993 To accelerate the standardization of object technology, SunSoft, the system software subsidiary of Sun Microsystems, Inc., and NeXT Computer, Inc. today announced a series of agreements where NeXT will publish an open specification, called OpenStep, and SunSoft will license NEXTSTEP's application environment for use in its Solaris enterprise system software. NeXT will "open up" NEXTSTEP by freely licensing the APIs (Application Programming Interfaces) and the OpenStep trademark to all independent implementations which pass an OpenStep test suite. OpenStep is based on the operating system-independent layers of NEXTSTEP 3.2, which NeXT is shipping today. "I believe that object technology is one of the core technologies that will drive enterprise computing in the '90s," said Scott McNealy, chairman and CEO of Sun Microsystems, Inc. "We are pleased that we can now integrate NeXT's proven object technology with SunSoft's distributed computing environment. Sun is now in a great position to drive a volume object standard for the future." "Solaris is the highest volume UNIX-based operating system," said Steven P. Jobs, chairman and CEO of NeXT Computer, Inc. "SunSoft's choosing of NEXTSTEP parallels Apple's choosing of PostScript 10 years ago. We feel that this relationship will drive NEXTSTEP to become the object-oriented standard for open systems computing." The SunSoft/NeXT Agreement: NeXT will publish an interface specification, called OpenStep, which is based on the operating system independent layers of NEXTSTEP Release 3.2 APIs. This allows applications which only use these APIs to be portable across multiple OpenStep implementations regardless of the underlying operating system. The OpenStep specification will be published by June 30, 1994 and submitted to an appropriate standards organization, such as the OMG (Object Management Group) and X/Open, for adoption. SunSoft has licensed the NEXTSTEP application environment and will use this technology to develop an implementation of the OpenStep specification for use in its Solaris Distributed Object Environment (DOE). Sun Microsystems, Inc. will make a minority equity investment in NeXT Computer, Inc. NeXT will port the native NEXTSTEP operating system to the SPARC architecture with marketing and technical assistance from Sun's SPARC Technology Business (a business unit of Sun Microsystems, Inc.). SunSoft has licensed to NeXT its implementations of networking and distributed object technologies, including CORBA (Common Object Request Broker Architecture), the Object Management Group's IDL (Interface Definition Language) and NFS (Network File System). Object programming is widely recognized as the next wave of software application development, greatly reducing the time it takes to construct applications, increasing their reliability and allowing the reuse and leverage of software components. According to Chris Stone, president of the Object Management Group (OMG), "Now that NeXT is opening up the NEXTSTEP API and Sun is teaming up with them to promote it, the OpenStep specification has a great chance to become the ubiquitous object interface for application developers." "SunSoft firmly believes it will have a distinct time-to-market advantage for a complete object-based, enterprise caliber operating environment as application developers and end users make the inevitable move to object technology," said Edward J. Zander, SunSoft president. "We evaluated all of the object-oriented alternatives and we chose NeXT because it offers the best technology for building object-oriented applications, and it is proven technology which has been shipping for years. This agreement brings together world-class technology from both vendors to allow SunSoft to offer a best-of-breed distributed software environment for enterprise-level computing." -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ .Dr. Robert F. Cahalan (Bob)...#..Laboratory for Atmospheres...... .cahalan@clouds.gsfc.nasa.gov..#..NASA-Goddard Space Flight Center .*** NeXTMail accepted ***.....#..Greenbelt, MD 20771............. .FAX: (301) 286-1627...........#..voice: (301) 286-4276........... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.programm,comp.sys.next.software From: rv@cs.brown.edu (rodrigo vanegas) Subject: Re: OpenStep In-Reply-To: cahalan@clouds.gsfc.nasa.gov's message of 23 Nov 1993 16:31:04 GMT Message-ID: <RV.93Nov23121954@fiji.cs.brown.edu> Sender: news@cs.brown.edu Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, Brown University References: <2ctds8$jch@skates.gsfc.nasa.gov> Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1993 17:19:54 GMT In article <2ctds8$jch@skates.gsfc.nasa.gov>, cahalan@clouds.gsfc.nasa.gov (Robert F. Cahalan) writes: > In June 1994 NeXT will release "OpenStep" to the public domain > This will be a full and open version of their operating system > interface, with the full object heirarchy, the Interface > Builder, and the underlying messaging system. April 1st is hardly around the corner... is this for real? rodrigo vanegas rv@cs.brown.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: peter@corsica (Peter Eisch) Subject: Re: gopher for intel machines: where's the gui version? Message-ID: <CGyJHG.2LC@news.cis.umn.edu> Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: University of Minnesota Hospital and Clinic, Laboratory Information Services References: <1993Nov22.203203.20378@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> <2ct4dj$93@alfred.acs.uwlax.edu> Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1993 18:29:00 GMT David Riley (riley@nextchair.csfac.uwlax.edu) wrote: : I am also interested. I've emailed Jim Lebay (lebay@mercury.cl.msu.edu) : twice and have yet to receive a reply. Has anyone recompiled the gopher : client FAT? Does anyone have source for the NeXT client software? Not looking to stomp on Jim's turf, I can build a fat version (1.3.3b) for the archives. We've been it using on-site for many months now. The version number is Jim's, not mine. If it's ok to distribute the binary, I'd do it as "v1.3.3b MAB". peter -- Always looking for a handy place to nap... peter@tahiti.umhc.umn.edu (Peter Eisch) peter.a.eisch@uwrf.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Robert Aich <raich@ganesh.muc.de> Subject: Q: Experiences with Tailor.app Message-ID: <CGwKE4.1px@ganesh.muc.de> Sender: robert@ganesh.muc.de (Robert Aich) Organization: No Org Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1993 16:56:27 GMT Does anybody already use Tailor V1.x? Is it stable? Are all promised features available? I used a demo-version from the electronic appwrapper and it seemed very powerful. E.g. I could display and manipulate a .eps-graphik produced by a high-end 3D-CAD-Package (Pro/ENGINEER). The Preview.app was not able to display this graphik. All Postscript-Previewers (I tested on SUN and SGI) c r a s h e d when I tried to display this graphik. Taylor just did it!!! Before I order a full featured copy I would be interested in your experiences. Thanx Robert raich@ganesh.muc.de -- NewsGrazer, a NeXTstep(tm) news reader, posting -- M>UQR=&8P7&%N<VE[7&9O;G1T8FQ<9C!<9FYI;"!";V]K;6%N+4QI9VAT.WT* M7&UA<F=L,3(P"EQM87)G<C$R,`I<<&%R9%QT>#8Q-%QT>#$R,CA<='@Q.#0S M7'1X,C0U-UQT>#,P-S%<='@S-C@V7'1X-#,P,%QT>#0Y,35<='@U-3(Y7'1X M-C$T,UQF,%QB,%QI,%QU;&YO;F5<9G,R-%QF8S!<8V8P($1O97,@86YY8F]D M>2!A;')E861Y('5S92!486EL;W(@5C$N>#\@($ES(&ET('-T86)L93\@07)E M(&%L;"!P<F]M:7-E9"!F96%T=7)E<R!A=F%I;&%B;&4_7`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`I" M969O<F4@22!O<F1E<B!A(&9U;&P@9F5A='5R960@8V]P>2!)('=O=6QD(&)E M(&EN=&5R97-T960@:6X@>6]U<B!E>'!E<FEE;F-E<RY<"EP*5&AA;GA<"EP* @4F]B97)T7`IR86EC:$!G86YE<V@N;75C+F1E7`H*?0I< `
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Robert Aich <raich@ganesh.muc.de> Subject: Q: New word-processors for NEXTSTEP available? Message-ID: <CGwKIo.1qo@ganesh.muc.de> Sender: robert@ganesh.muc.de (Robert Aich) Organization: No Org Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1993 16:59:11 GMT If this is a FAQ - I beg your pardon. I m new on the net. I look for a new, state-of-the-art word-processor for NEXTSTEP to replace WriteNow. I read about WriteUp and got some information about it, but I would like to know if there are some more announcements or products to consider. I m not sure if WriteUp will support all features of NEXTSTEP 3.xx e.g. object-linking. Who knows about this? Would it make sense to use Pages instead of a simple word-processor or is this overkill? Robert raich@ganesh.muc.de -- NewsGrazer, a NeXTstep(tm) news reader, posting -- M>UQR=&8P7&%N<VE[7&9O;G1T8FQ<9C!<9FYI;"!";V]K;6%N+4QI9VAT.WT* M7&UA<F=L,3(P"EQM87)G<C$R,`I<<&%R9%QT>#8Q-%QT>#$R,CA<='@Q.#0S M7'1X,C0U-UQT>#,P-S%<='@S-C@V7'1X-#,P,%QT>#0Y,35<='@U-3(Y7'1X M-C$T,UQF,%QB,%QI,%QU;&YO;F5<9G,R-%QF8S!<8V8P($EF('1H:7,@:7,@ M82!&05$@+2!)(&)E9R!Y;W5R('!A<F1O;BX@2<)M(&YE=R!O;B!T:&4@;F5T M+EP*7`I)(&QO;VL@9F]R(&$@;F5W+"!S=&%T92UO9BUT:&4M87)T('=O<F0M M<')O8V5S<V]R(&9O<B!.15A44U1%4"!T;R!R97!L86-E(%=R:71E3F]W+B!) M(')E860@86)O=70@5W)I=&55<"!A;F0@9V]T('-O;64@:6YF;W)M871I;VX@ M86)O=70@:70L(&)U="!)('=O=6QD(&QI:V4@=&\@:VYO=R!I9B!T:&5R92!A M<F4@<V]M92!M;W)E(&%N;F]U;F-E;65N=',@;W(@<')O9'5C=',@=&\@8V]N M<VED97(N7`I)PFT@;F]T('-U<F4@:68@5W)I=&55<"!W:6QL('-U<'!O<G0@ M86QL(&9E871U<F5S(&]F($Y%6%135$50(#,N>'@@92YG+B!O8FIE8W0M;&EN M:VEN9RX@5VAO(&MN;W=S(&%B;W5T('1H:7,*/UP*7`I7;W5L9"!I="!M86ME M('-E;G-E('1O('5S92!086=E<R!I;G-T96%D(&]F(&$@<VEM<&QE('=O<F0M M<')O8V5S<V]R(&]R(&ES('1H:7,@;W9E<FMI;&P_7`I<"E)O8F5R=%P*<F%I 88VA`9V%N97-H+FUU8RYD90I<"EP*"GT* `
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: OpenStep and DPS ? Date: 23 Nov 1993 19:00:40 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Distribution: world Message-ID: <2ctmko$qd3@agate.berkeley.edu> The Sun/NeXT news is better than I expected. Now, OpenStep will be based on OS-independent API portion of NS 3.2, getting divorced from Mach OS, and that's fine with me as long as the underlying OS is good. What then will be the relationship between OpenStep and DPS, the current imaging model for NEXTSTEP? Is DPS part of OpenStep API, or does OpenStep also become independent of DPS as the imaging model? -- Izumi Ohzawa [ $@Bg_78^=;(J ] USMail: University of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720 Telephone: (510) 642-6440 Fax: (510) 642-3323 Internet: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (NeXTMail OK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: fe@free.fr Subject: Re: Anyone used SoftPC on 3.2 FIP yet? Message-ID: <1993Nov23.164034.24964@free.fdn.org> Sender: news@free.fdn.org Organization: Fabien Roy Electronic Engineering (F.R.E.E.) - Paris, France. References: <1993Nov23.030805.17530@news.csuohio.edu> Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1993 16:40:34 GMT In article <1993Nov23.030805.17530@news.csuohio.edu> cowboy@omega.csuohio.edu (Joe Rosenfeld) writes: > Hey can anyone report on how SoftPC running on a white 3.2 machine > performs? I am curious about speed, clarity of graphics, how the DOS > tcp/ip works, and how the Novell NetWare connectivity is. > > Please go easy on the MessyDOS comments :-) I don't much like it > meself. > > regards- > Joe > > -- > > | Joe Rosenfeld j.rosenfeld@csuohio.edu > | Automation Librarian (216) 687-6881 [FAX] > | CSU Law Library trans.csuohio.edu [ANON FTP] > | NeXTMail and MIME ok -- it seems to work fine. I've tried dos and windows. Graphics are exactly the same, and speed is a little slower than windows under dos but it is ok. I've not tried much things under windows but I can make tests for you, e-mail me your suggestions. -- Francois-Eric Daveau (a.k.a. FE) E-Mail : fe@free.fdn.org (work, NeXT-Mail welcome) ris@epita.fr (school)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: janet@lighthouse.com (Janet Hufnagel) Subject: Re: Diagram!2: Using Diagrams & Palettes from v.1.0 Message-ID: <1993Nov23.193621.859@lighthouse.com> Sender: janet@lighthouse.com Organization: Lighthouse Design, Ltd. References: <199311230501.AAA10303@slate.cs.rochester.edu> Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1993 19:36:21 GMT Hi Eric, First: you can open old Diagram!1 files in version 2.0/2.1. The old files should appear in the Open panel; if they don't, log out and back in or do a make_services in a Terminal window. (The conversion is done through a filter service.) However, if you are running Diagram!2.1 with NeXTStep 3.0, the filter service won't run because it is fat. Email us and I'll send the NeXT-only version of the filter. Now, if you can see the files, but there is an error when trying to open them, that is a different problem, which you should email us about. >Is it possible to change the size of arrow-heads in version 2.0? Only through changing the thickness of the line (in the Style Inspector). If you have problems or questions, you can mail to diagram@lighthouse.com and we usually respond very quickly. By the way, version 2.1 is available through NeXTConnection for a media fee. It fixed some bugs in 2.0 and runs on Intel. Thanks, Janet Hufnagel Lighthouse Design, Ltd. In article <199311230501.AAA10303@slate.cs.rochester.edu> ringger@cs.rochester.edu writes: > Hi. > > I'm running Diagram!2 on a non-Turbo NeXTstation. I'm also the proud > owner of Diagram!1.0 and have many documents and palettes from my > v.1.0 days. However, I haven't been able to successfully use either > my 1.0 diagrams or palettes in Diagram!2. > > I'm aware of the fact that Lighthouse has significantly improved the > document file format. But did they provide backward compatibility for > their old file format? I hope so. Please let me know by mail, and > I'll summarize the responses. > > An unrelated question: Is it possible to change the size of > arrow-heads in version 2.0? > > Thanks, > --Eric > > --- > Eric K. Ringger ringger@cs.rochester.edu > Dept. of Computer Science > University of Rochester Phone: (716) 275-0922 > Rochester NY 14627-0226 FAX: (716) 461-2018 > ||| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |||
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.bugs,news.software.readers From: hbu@wag.ch (Hans Burkard) Subject: NewsGrazer crashes... Message-ID: <CGy88x.JF@wag.ch> Keywords: NewsGrazer Sender: usenet@wag.ch Organization: workstation ag, Rohrstr. 36/38, CH-8152 Glattbrugg, Switzerland Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1993 14:29:21 GMT Since weeks I am using NewsGrazer without any problem. However since today NewsGrazer is crashing regulary and I have no idea why! We are using C-News and a local nntp-Server. I know this topic was already discussed. Has anybody a collection of answers? Thanks -Hans- ============================ Hans Burkard workstation ag, Switzerland e-mail: hbu@wag.ch
From: rasmussn@jupiter.eecs.umich.edu (Craig E Rasmussen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: App conversion to NS/Intel 3.1 Date: 23 Nov 1993 20:41:27 GMT Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept. Message-ID: <2ctshn$scr@zip.eecs.umich.edu> A very strange bug that maybe someone with more experience with NS/Intel can help me with. I just started converting our graphics program with multiple windows to our Intel 486 this morning. Everything went very well until run time, when an intermitent crash occurs on reading a window from a nib file (sometimes on closing the window too). The error message is memory access exception on address 0xfffffff8 (sometimes 0x0, and sometimes at what looks like a valid address). The error occurs at various places in the code which reads the nib file and instantiates and sets up various objects in the window. The last calls on the stack are always nxzonefree and nxzonefreenolock. Because the error is not repeatable and occurs at various locations in the code, I am tempted to think something is interupting the code, but can't imagine what. By the way, I am communicating with distributed objects, but not in this portion of the code. Lost in Ann Arbor, MI Craig Rasmussen AI Lab/Space Physics
From: mcglk@cpac.washington.edu (Ken McGlothlen) Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.programm,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OpenStep Date: 23 Nov 93 12:46:51 Organization: Dubious. Distribution: world Message-ID: <MCGLK.93Nov23124651@yang.cpac.washington.edu> References: <2ctds8$jch@skates.gsfc.nasa.gov> In-reply-to: cahalan@clouds.gsfc.nasa.gov's message of 23 Nov 93 16:31:04 GMT cahalan@clouds.gsfc.nasa.gov (Robert F. Cahalan) writes: | In June 1994 NeXT will release "OpenStep" to the public domain. This will be | a full and open version of their operating system interface, with the full | object heirarchy, the Interface Builder, and the underlying messaging system. Uh . . . that's not what I've been reading. If my interpretation of the articles are correct, OpenStep will simply be an API of base objects. That's it. In addition, OpenStep will be operating-system independent, though it hasn't been made clear *how* OS-independent they will be (Mach-independent? Unix-independent?). Are you getting hard information on this, or are you just not reading very carefully? OpenStep does not include IB, according to what I've been reading. | NeXT expects to have a full port running on Sparc by Q4, [...] NeXT expects to have a full port of NeXTstep running on Sparc, not OpenStep. OpenStep isn't an operating system. | and Sun expects to have the interface, with DPS, running on top of Solaris, | and bundled with every version of Solaris sometime in 1995. You may be reading too much into the announcements. Again, is this hard information, or just a guess? | Apparently, Sun is moving away from X in favor of NeXT, but not necessarily | in favor of Mach. Absolutely no evidence of that in the articles so far. In fact, OpenStep will be going to the X/Open committee for standardization. Again, do you have any hard information at all on this? | This new announcement means that GNU can simply build on NeXT's existing | heirarchy of objects. Wrong again. OpenStep will be an OS-independent API. GNU might be able to build on top of OpenStep objects (depending on legal issues), but that does not mean that GNU can just start using NeXTstep objects. | Also, how about a version of OpenStep for linux? It's possible, once the OpenStep draft goes to the appropriate standardization committees. But don't expect NeXTstep-like functionality from OpenStep. ---Ken McGlothlen mcglk@cpac.washington.edu mcglk@cpac.bitnet
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: byer@mv.us.adobe.com (Scott Byer) Subject: Re: OpenStep and DPS ? In-Reply-To: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu's message of 23 Nov 1993 19:00:40 GMT Message-ID: <BYER.93Nov23133550@birch.mv.us.adobe.com> Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS) Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View, CA References: <2ctmko$qd3@agate.berkeley.edu> Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1993 21:35:50 GMT In article <2ctmko$qd3@agate.berkeley.edu> izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa) writes: > Is DPS part of OpenStep API, or does OpenStep also become independent > of DPS as the imaging model? Uhm, the specification for the DPS API is already published (PostScript Language Reference Manual and Programming the Display PostScript System with X). And why would NeXT want to divorce itself from that? Beside, DPS is part of Solaris, isn't it? :-) -- Scott Byer NeXTMail: byer@mv.us.adobe.com Adobe Systems Incorporated These are *my* opinions, and 1585 Charleston Road, P.O. Box 7900 do not necessarily reflect Mountain View, CA 94039-7900 the opinions of my employer. ---------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.programm,comp.sys.next.software From: draphsor@deathstar.Stanford.EDU (Matt Rollefson) Subject: Re: OpenStep Message-ID: <1993Nov23.215408.18021@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: Stanford University References: <2ctds8$jch@skates.gsfc.nasa.gov> Date: Tue, 23 Nov 93 21:54:08 GMT In comp.sys.next.advocacy cahalan@clouds.gsfc.nasa.gov (Robert F. Cahalan) writes: >In June 1994 NeXT will release "OpenStep" to the public domain >This will be a full and open version of their operating system >interface, with the full object heirarchy, the Interface >Builder, and the underlying messaging system. Please read the press release. What will be released is the API specifications; not an actual implementation. Developing an implementation will be up to the companies interested in doing so, the FSF, etc. (Just trying to head off any wild rumors early.) Rollie -- Matt Rollefson ("Rollie") draphsor@deathstar.stanford.edu Residential Computing, Stanford University NeXTmail accepted
From: cahalan@clouds.gsfc.nasa.gov (Robert F. Cahalan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OpenStep Date: 23 Nov 1993 21:50:55 GMT Organization: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center -- InterNetNews site Distribution: world Message-ID: <2cu0jv$qku@skates.gsfc.nasa.gov> References: <2ctds8$jch@skates.gsfc.nasa.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In article <2ctds8$jch@skates.gsfc.nasa.gov> cahalan@clouds.gsfc.nasa.gov I wrote: > In June 1994 NeXT will release "OpenStep" to the public domain > ..... fascinating discussion of GNU and linux deleted ........ Sorry, I didn't really mean to use a legal term. I'm not a lawyer! Again, for those who haven't seen it yet, here's the real scoop: FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Contact: Karen Andre SunSoft 415-336-3890 or Karen Logsdon NeXT Computer, Inc. 415-780-3786 or Emily Cohen Hi-Tech Communications 415-904-7000 SUNSOFT AND NeXT PARTNER TO DRIVE VOLUME OBJECT STANDARD NeXT to Publish Open Specification; SunSoft Licenses Implementation for Use in Solaris SAN FRANCISCO, November 23, 1993 To accelerate the standardization of object technology, SunSoft, the system software subsidiary of Sun Microsystems, Inc., and NeXT Computer, Inc. today announced a series of agreements where NeXT will publish an open specification, called OpenStep, and SunSoft will license NEXTSTEP's application environment for use in its Solaris enterprise system software. NeXT will "open up" NEXTSTEP by freely licensing the APIs (Application Programming Interfaces) and the OpenStep trademark to all independent implementations which pass an OpenStep test suite. OpenStep is based on the operating system-independent layers of NEXTSTEP 3.2, which NeXT is shipping today. "I believe that object technology is one of the core technologies that will drive enterprise computing in the '90s," said Scott McNealy, chairman and CEO of Sun Microsystems, Inc. "We are pleased that we can now integrate NeXT's proven object technology with SunSoft's distributed computing environment. Sun is now in a great position to drive a volume object standard for the future." "Solaris is the highest volume UNIX-based operating system," said Steven P. Jobs, chairman and CEO of NeXT Computer, Inc. "SunSoft's choosing of NEXTSTEP parallels Apple's choosing of PostScript 10 years ago. We feel that this relationship will drive NEXTSTEP to become the object-oriented standard for open systems computing." The SunSoft/NeXT Agreement: NeXT will publish an interface specification, called OpenStep, which is based on the operating system independent layers of NEXTSTEP Release 3.2 APIs. This allows applications which only use these APIs to be portable across multiple OpenStep implementations regardless of the underlying operating system. The OpenStep specification will be published by June 30, 1994 and submitted to an appropriate standards organization, such as the OMG (Object Management Group) and X/Open, for adoption. SunSoft has licensed the NEXTSTEP application environment and will use this technology to develop an implementation of the OpenStep specification for use in its Solaris Distributed Object Environment (DOE). Sun Microsystems, Inc. will make a minority equity investment in NeXT Computer, Inc. NeXT will port the native NEXTSTEP operating system to the SPARC architecture with marketing and technical assistance from Sun's SPARC Technology Business (a business unit of Sun Microsystems, Inc.). SunSoft has licensed to NeXT its implementations of networking and distributed object technologies, including CORBA (Common Object Request Broker Architecture), the Object Management Group's IDL (Interface Definition Language) and NFS (Network File System). Object programming is widely recognized as the next wave of software application development, greatly reducing the time it takes to construct applications, increasing their reliability and allowing the reuse and leverage of software components. According to Chris Stone, president of the Object Management Group (OMG), "Now that NeXT is opening up the NEXTSTEP API and Sun is teaming up with them to promote it, the OpenStep specification has a great chance to become the ubiquitous object interface for application developers." "SunSoft firmly believes it will have a distinct time-to-market advantage for a complete object-based, enterprise caliber operating environment as application developers and end users make the inevitable move to object technology," said Edward J. Zander, SunSoft president. "We evaluated all of the object-oriented alternatives and we chose NeXT because it offers the best technology for building object-oriented applications, and it is proven technology which has been shipping for years. This agreement brings together world-class technology from both vendors to allow SunSoft to offer a best-of-breed distributed software environment for enterprise-level computing." SunSoft, Inc. SunSoft headquartered in Mountain View, Calif., is a subsidiary of Sun Microsystems, Inc., the exclusive computer supplier to World Cup USA 1994. The company has offices in North America, Europe and Asia. SunSoft is a leading supplier of 32-bit system software solutions for SPARC and Intel 80386/486-based computers. The products are licensed by SunSoft and distributed through major computer manufacturers worldwide. NeXT Computer, Inc. NeXT develops and markets the award-winning NEXTSTEP object-oriented software for industry-standard computer architectures. Customers use NEXTSTEP to develop and deploy custom client/server applications, using both custom and shrink-wrapped software. Headquartered in Redwood City, California, with offices throughout the world, NeXT serves customers requiring enterprise-wide, object-oriented productivity environments. # # # # NeXT, the NeXT logo and NEXTSTEP are registered trademarks of NeXT Computer, Inc. Sun Microsystems, Inc., SunSoft and Solaris are trademarks or registered trademarks of Sun Microsystems, Inc. UNIX is a registered trademark of UNIX Systems Laboratories. Intel is a registered trademark of Intel Corporation. All other products or service names mentioned are trademarks of their respective owners.
From: robin@pencom.com (Robin D. Wilson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: How to uncompress a .compressed by command-line Date: 23 Nov 1993 23:02:05 GMT Organization: Pencom Sofware Message-ID: <2cu4pd$hkq@digdug.pencom.com> References: <BHILL.93Nov12182101@sting.physics.ucla.edu> In article <BHILL.93Nov12182101@sting.physics.ucla.edu> bhill@physics.ucla.edu (Brian Hill) writes: :In article <1993Nov11.182555.6031@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> gary@nshade.uah.ualberta.ca (Gary Ritchie) writes: : :> > you should try: :> > mv blabla.compressed blabla.tar.Z :> > and then :> > uncompress blabla.tar.Z :> > and final :> > tar xvf blabla.tar :> > and then you are done :> > :> :> Actually, I think that last step should be: :> gnutar xvf blabla.tar :> This only matters if the tar file contains really long path names :> (as often happens with NEXT apps). : :As long as you are using gnu tar how about condensing the last two :steps to : :tar xvzf blabla.tar.Z Or just start with "gnutar xvzf file.compressed". Seems to work on my box. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- *** These are my opinions... Mine! All Mine! Minemineminemineminemine! *** ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Robin D. Wilson robin@pencom.com Pencom Software 701 Canyon Bend Dr. 9050 Capital of Texas Hwy Pflugerville, TX 78660 Austin, TX 78759
From: rasmussn@jupiter.eecs.umich.edu (Craig E Rasmussen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: App conversion to NS/Intel 3.1 Date: 23 Nov 1993 23:38:37 GMT Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept. Message-ID: <2cu6tt$2q1@zip.eecs.umich.edu> References: <2ctshn$scr@zip.eecs.umich.edu> In article <2ctshn$scr@zip.eecs.umich.edu> rasmussn@jupiter.eecs.umich.edu (Craig E Rasmussen) writes: > A very strange bug that maybe someone with more experience with NS/Intel > can help me with. I just started converting our graphics program with > multiple windows to our Intel 486 this morning. Everything went very > well until run time, when an intermitent crash occurs on reading a > window from > a nib file (sometimes on closing the window too). The error message is > memory access exception on address 0xfffffff8 (sometimes 0x0, and > sometimes at what looks like a valid address). The error occurs at > various places in the code which reads the nib file and instantiates and > sets up various objects in the window. The last calls on the stack are > always nxzonefree and nxzonefreenolock. I found the bug. It seems that 3.1 or the Intel is more stringent on memory allocation errors. I was allocating memory for a string and forgot to grab enough memory to terminate the string. So basically, there seem to no major difficulties in converting software to run on white hardware. Anyone disagree? No longer Lost in Ann Arbor, MI Craig Rasmussen AI Lab/Space Physics
From: rasmussn@jupiter.eecs.umich.edu (Craig E Rasmussen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: App conversion to NS/Intel 3.1 Date: 23 Nov 1993 23:38:52 GMT Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept. Message-ID: <2cu6uc$2q8@zip.eecs.umich.edu> References: <2ctshn$scr@zip.eecs.umich.edu> In article <2ctshn$scr@zip.eecs.umich.edu> rasmussn@jupiter.eecs.umich.edu (Craig E Rasmussen) writes: > A very strange bug that maybe someone with more experience with NS/Intel > can help me with. I just started converting our graphics program with > multiple windows to our Intel 486 this morning. Everything went very > well until run time, when an intermitent crash occurs on reading a > window from > a nib file (sometimes on closing the window too). The error message is > memory access exception on address 0xfffffff8 (sometimes 0x0, and > sometimes at what looks like a valid address). The error occurs at > various places in the code which reads the nib file and instantiates and > sets up various objects in the window. The last calls on the stack are > always nxzonefree and nxzonefreenolock. I found the bug. It seems that 3.1 or the Intel is more stringent on memory allocation errors. I was allocating memory for a string and forgot to grab enough memory to terminate the string. So basically, there seem to no major difficulties in converting software to run on white hardware. Anyone disagree? No longer Lost in Ann Arbor, MI Craig Rasmussen AI Lab/Space Physics
From: rasmussn@jupiter.eecs.umich.edu (Craig E Rasmussen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: App conversion to NS/Intel 3.1 Date: 23 Nov 1993 23:39:04 GMT Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept. Message-ID: <2cu6uo$2qb@zip.eecs.umich.edu> References: <2ctshn$scr@zip.eecs.umich.edu> In article <2ctshn$scr@zip.eecs.umich.edu> rasmussn@jupiter.eecs.umich.edu (Craig E Rasmussen) writes: > A very strange bug that maybe someone with more experience with NS/Intel > can help me with. I just started converting our graphics program with > multiple windows to our Intel 486 this morning. Everything went very > well until run time, when an intermitent crash occurs on reading a > window from > a nib file (sometimes on closing the window too). The error message is > memory access exception on address 0xfffffff8 (sometimes 0x0, and > sometimes at what looks like a valid address). The error occurs at > various places in the code which reads the nib file and instantiates and > sets up various objects in the window. The last calls on the stack are > always nxzonefree and nxzonefreenolock. I found the bug. It seems that 3.1 or the Intel is more stringent on memory allocation errors. I was allocating memory for a string and forgot to grab enough memory to terminate the string. So basically, there seem to no major difficulties in converting software to run on white hardware. Anyone disagree? No longer Lost in Ann Arbor, MI Craig Rasmussen AI Lab/Space Physics
From: rasmussn@jupiter.eecs.umich.edu (Craig E Rasmussen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: App conversion to NS/Intel 3.1 Date: 23 Nov 1993 23:40:00 GMT Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept. Message-ID: <2cu70g$2qj@zip.eecs.umich.edu> In article <2ctshn$scr@zip.eecs.umich.edu> rasmussn@jupiter.eecs.umich.edu (Craig E Rasmussen) writes: > A very strange bug that maybe someone with more experience with NS/Intel > can help me with. I just started converting our graphics program with > multiple windows to our Intel 486 this morning. Everything went very > well until run time, when an intermitent crash occurs on reading a > window from > a nib file (sometimes on closing the window too). The error message is > memory access exception on address 0xfffffff8 (sometimes 0x0, and > sometimes at what looks like a valid address). The error occurs at > various places in the code which reads the nib file and instantiates and > sets up various objects in the window. The last calls on the stack are > always nxzonefree and nxzonefreenolock. I found the bug. It seems that 3.1 or the Intel is more stringent on memory allocation errors. I was allocating memory for a string and forgot to grab enough memory to terminate the string. So basically, there seem to no major difficulties in converting software to run on white hardware. Anyone disagree? No longer Lost in Ann Arbor, MI Craig Rasmussen AI Lab/Space Physics
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: shayman@Trimark.com (Steve Hayman) Subject: JANA CD-ROM software Message-ID: <1993Nov23.165959.6589@trimark.com> Sender: news@trimark.com Organization: Trimark Investment Management, Toronto Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1993 16:59:59 GMT Let's give JANA a chance here - I think that there must have been some sort of production mistake in getting this CD out. I spoke with someone at JANA who agreed that there was *supposed* to be 80 Mb of software on the disk, but did not know what happened. Let's give them a chance to figure it out before jumping all over them complaining of ripoffs. Steve --- Steve Hayman Steve Hayman + Associates NeXTSTEP Consulting Toronto, Ontario shayman@Objectario.com (416) 769 8995
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mark@xexos.com (Mark Chamberlain) Subject: Re: Anyone used SoftPC on 3.2 FIP yet? Message-ID: <1993Nov23.145923.2855@xexos.com> Sender: news@xexos.com Organization: Xexos, Ltd (London) References: <1993Nov23.030805.17530@news.csuohio.edu> Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1993 14:59:23 GMT In article <1993Nov23.030805.17530@news.csuohio.edu> cowboy@omega.csuohio.edu (Joe Rosenfeld) writes: > Hey can anyone report on how SoftPC running on a white 3.2 machine > performs? I am curious about speed, clarity of graphics, how the DOS > tcp/ip works, and how the Novell NetWare connectivity is. > > Please go easy on the MessyDOS comments :-) I don't much like it > meself. Its surprisingly good. Netware connectivity actually works, speed and graphics are as more than useable. Haven't done any intensive testing on it yet, but a lot better than I thought it would be. -- Mark Chamberlain +44 71 237 4535 Xexos Ltd fax +44 71 231 0844 London mark@xexos.com
From: robin@pencom.com (Robin D. Wilson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: How to uncompress a .compressed by command-line Date: 23 Nov 1993 23:53:55 GMT Organization: Pencom Sofware Message-ID: <2cu7qj$fos@digdug.pencom.com> References: <2cu4pd$hkq@digdug.pencom.com> In article <2cu4pd$hkq@digdug.pencom.com> robin@pencom.com (Robin D. Wilson) writes: :In article <BHILL.93Nov12182101@sting.physics.ucla.edu> :bhill@physics.ucla.edu (Brian Hill) writes: ::In article <1993Nov11.182555.6031@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> :gary@nshade.uah.ualberta.ca (Gary Ritchie) writes: :: ::> > you should try: ::> > mv blabla.compressed blabla.tar.Z ::> > and then ::> > uncompress blabla.tar.Z ::> > and final ::> > tar xvf blabla.tar ::> > and then you are done ::> > ::> ::> Actually, I think that last step should be: ::> gnutar xvf blabla.tar ::> This only matters if the tar file contains really long path names ::> (as often happens with NEXT apps). :: ::As long as you are using gnu tar how about condensing the last two ::steps to :: ::tar xvzf blabla.tar.Z : :Or just start with "gnutar xvzf file.compressed". Seems to work on my box. And you can use the same thing to create a .compressed file on the command line: gnutar -cvzf file.compressed <file list> rm -r <file list> # this step isn't required, but is effectively what # compress does. Does anybody know if 'gnutar' supports a flag to remove a file after it is archived and verified? -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- *** These are my opinions... Mine! All Mine! Minemineminemineminemine! *** ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Robin D. Wilson robin@pencom.com Pencom Software 701 Canyon Bend Dr. 9050 Capital of Texas Hwy Pflugerville, TX 78660 Austin, TX 78759
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) Subject: Re: NewsGrazer crashes... Message-ID: <1993Nov23.234611.22340@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: Stanford University References: <CGy88x.JF@wag.ch> Date: Tue, 23 Nov 93 23:46:11 GMT Hans Burkard writes > Since weeks I am using NewsGrazer without any problem. However > since today NewsGrazer is crashing regulary and I have no idea > why! Probably a corrupt article. Note which group you're switching to when NG crashes, then go to your newsrc file and increment the counter for that group to skip a couple of articles. Then relaunch NG. Usually works for me. -- - Stefano Pagiola Food Research Institute, Stanford University spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged) spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.programm,comp.sys.next.software From: bsa@kf8nh.wariat.org (Brandon S. Allbery) Subject: Re: OpenStep References: <2ctds8$jch@skates.gsfc.nasa.gov> <RV.93Nov23121954@fiji.cs.brown.edu> Organization: Brandon's Linux box and AmPR node, Mentor, OH Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1993 23:29:19 GMT Message-ID: <1993Nov23.232919.11274@kf8nh.wariat.org> In article <RV.93Nov23121954@fiji.cs.brown.edu> rv@cs.brown.edu (rodrigo vanegas) writes: >In article <2ctds8$jch@skates.gsfc.nasa.gov>, cahalan@clouds.gsfc.nasa.gov (Robert F. Cahalan) writes: >> In June 1994 NeXT will release "OpenStep" to the public domain >> This will be a full and open version of their operating system >> interface, with the full object heirarchy, the Interface >> Builder, and the underlying messaging system. > >April 1st is hardly around the corner... is this for real? You mean I'm not the only one who finds this dubious? Consider, folks: * NeXTStep for Intel only just came out, with a price tag which will limit its spread. If OpenStep were released, companies could easily undercut NeXT. * Sun going with a NeXTStep clone is rather unlikely now that they've taken a major traumatic step in adopting Motif to support COSE. And, most importantly: * NeXTStep is NeXT's only product now!* I have real trouble imagining them staying in business at all after this move... unless this announcement is for real, in which case I'd say its NeXT's way of annoucing that they've suddenly decided that they can't cut it as a software company. (Well, yes, they could be turning into a Cygnus-like organization, but it seems a rather strange move to me.) ++Brandon ======== *Yeah, they have the CORBA stuff they're doing for HP, but wouldn't that be subsumed by this as well? -- Brandon S. Allbery kf8nh@kf8nh.ampr.org bsa@kf8nh.wariat.org "MSDOS didn't get as bad as it is overnight -- it took over ten years of careful development." ---dmeggins@aix1.uottawa.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: geoff@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Geoff Kuenning) Subject: Re: Compiling ispell 4.0 on NeXT... References: <1993Nov18.171121.17882@sol.UVic.CA> Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department Message-ID: <1993Nov24.005722.1453@cs.ucla.edu> Date: Wed, 24 Nov 93 00:57:22 GMT In article <1993Nov18.171121.17882@sol.UVic.CA> mohenly@malahat.library.uvic.ca (Michael O'Henly) writes: > Has anyone built ispell 4.0 under NS3.0? Why would anyone want to? Ispell 3.0.09 compiles just fine under 3.0 (unsurprisingly, since that's where I developed it) and has much more functionality. -- Geoff Kuenning geoff@maui.cs.ucla.edu geoff@ITcorp.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: coconut@crash.cts.com (Brian Dear) Subject: HELP: Accidental deletion of mail messages Organization: CTS Network Services (CTSNET/crash), San Diego, CA Date: 23 Nov 93 16:32:11 PST Message-ID: <1993Nov23.163211.7783@crash> Every now and then I accidentally delete a mail message in Mail.app by accidentally hitting the Delete button or clicking on the Delete icon. There is no confirmation dialog box or anything and you have no chance to undo the deletion. Or _is_ there some way I don't know of? I wish there was a Preference option to toggle whether or not I want confirmation of deletion actions. -- bd * brian dear * coconut computing, inc. * brian@coconut.com *
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: joe@FreemanSoft.com (Joe Freeman) Subject: Serial drivers under 3.2? Message-ID: <1993Nov24.020831.17922@FreemanSoft.com> Sender: jfreeman@FreemanSoft.com Organization: FreemanSoft Inc. Distribution: usa Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1993 02:08:31 GMT My 3.2 hasn't shown up yet :-( Has anyone had a chance to play with the serial drivers under 3.2? I am wondering if: A) Can they can do 19,200 or even 9600 baud reliably? B) Do they make use of the buffers on 16550 UARTS (setting in config or auto)? <<waiting until I see answers before putting editorial remarks on serial support for NS>> Thanks, -- Joe Freeman FreemanSoft Inc. A NEXTSTEP software and consulting services company. Electronic Mail: Joe@FreemanSoft.com (NeXT Mail) Voice: 919.783.7033
From: zmonster@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Eric M Hermanson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OpenStep and DPS ? Date: 24 Nov 1993 03:36:22 GMT Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology Distribution: world Message-ID: <2cukrm$m5f@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> References: <2ctmko$qd3@agate.berkeley.edu> In article <2ctmko$qd3@agate.berkeley.edu> izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu writes: >What then will be the relationship between OpenStep and >DPS, the current imaging model for NEXTSTEP? >Is DPS part of OpenStep API, or does OpenStep also become independent >of DPS as the imaging model? The following information is what I received from a software engineer at NeXT: OpenStep includes the full NEXTSTEP GUI. Part of the OpenStep spec is that it retains the same appearance and behavior as NEXTSTEP. Here's specifically what the spec will include at the minimum (I may have left something out here): * DisplayPostscript * Distributed Objects * the AppKit * Databasekit * Objective-C Eric
From: gysin@mugwump.ucsd.edu (Reality) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: CD-sampling (a summary of replies) Date: 23 Nov 1993 23:29:18 GMT Organization: The Avant-Garde of the Now, Ltd. Message-ID: <2cu6ceINNdh2@network.ucsd.edu> Some six months or so ago, I posted the following question and then promptly lost access to News. I'm living up to my NetResponsibility by (belatedly) posting the answers I got. I won't summarize them, because the answers solutions are too significantly different to compress. My original question: >Howdy. This is a potentially stupid question, but here goes: > >Can anyone suggest what kind of software and hardware I might use to > create sound files using a Compact Disc as the source? I essentially > want to do some "sampling". > > I've seen CD-ROM players hooked up to NeXTs, but they seem to only > have two capabilities: 1) read CD-ROM data and 2) *play* CDs through > the NeXT speakers (or through the RCA jacks into a stereo system). > I want to be able to read the data on a music CD into .snd, .au, or > any other NeXT-playable sound file. Here are the responses: ------------------------------------------------------------ From: t19@nikhef.nl (Geert J v Oldenborgh) I have a CDat box manufactured by a guy in Berlin for ~ $800,= which allows you to hook up the CD (or DAT) to the DSP port. It works. Make sure you have plenty of disk space, though, and I am not sure the price is worth it. Geert Jan van Oldenborgh ------------------------------------------------------------ From: brown@quorum.com (Robert E. Brown) To grab CDROM sound over your SCSI bus, you'll need a CDROM drive that can do this. So far, there are only a few with this ability -- I know the Toshiba 3401 and the Apple CD-300 (some Sony mechanism) work. You'll also need a bit of custom software on your Next. bob ------------------------------------------------------------ From: john@wpa.com (John Bartley) One way is to use hardware like the Ariel Digital Microphone (has stereo input lines for your audio source) or Digital Ears and use software like Soundworks to control the process. You can select a range of sound configurations from 8 khz mono to 22 khz or 44.1 khz stereo or 88 khz mono. I believe there might be some apps on the archives somewhere that allow all sorts of other processing with the sounds you sample. I did a lot of this when I first bought my NeXT several years ago, but the equipment has been gathering dust since then. Hope this helps you get started. ------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jul 93 20:37:17 -0400 From: Glenn Brown <gbrown@raven.ctr.columbia.edu> CDROM drives are designed not to allow this. To make a CDROM drive, you must get a license from Sony, which prohibits the manufacture of CDROM drives that read the audio data directly. The only ways I know of getting samples straight off of CD is: 1) Get a CD player with digital out and connect it to an interface that connects to the NeXT DSP port and will allow the data to be recorded digitally. (A source for such a device is mentioned in the Info dialog box in the MonsterScope freeware app.) 2) By the recording on DAT tape and use a DAT drive that can read the audio directly. These do exist. --Glenn ------------------------------------------------------------ From: S. Port <scp@math.ucla.edu> Carl Edman at cedman@princeton.edu posted a while back about how he wrote a short program allowing his NeXT to read data off CD audios and playback via DSP. He used a Toshiba 3401 CD-ROM to achieve this. Just remember, certain uses of this may be illegal, if you are writing music. Please post your results and/or email me. I'd appreciate what you dig up. Charlie Dvorak ------------------------------------------------------------ From: Torsten Belschner <belsaggc@w272zrz.zrz.tu-berlin.de> You will merely need one piece of hardware -- provided you still use black hardware and want to do 44kHz, 16bit sampling. Connect one of the several available audio-interfaces (digital ears, RDAT etc.) to the DSP-port and sample to disk from your HiFi-CD-player's digital out via SoundWorks 3.0 (Metaresearch) or one of those PD editors floating around (SE, Sonogram) which "work" pretty well. Rumors are spread that an even more sophisticated sampling software, MetroTracks (MetroSoft), although renounced several times, is going to come up in late summer. This is going to be a real hard-disk-recording software, not a mere sample editor. ----- Torsten Belschner belsaggc@w271zrz.zrz.tu-berlin.de ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks to all for all the input. Any other comments? -- ------ Brian Keeley --- UCSD Philosophy --- SIO Heiligenberg Lab ------ Phone:(619)534-2127(lab) - PGP public key available - NeXTmail accepted "Exterminate all rational thought." - W.S. Burroughs
From: gysin@mugwump.ucsd.edu (Reality) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: HyperTeXT anyone? Date: 23 Nov 1993 23:51:13 GMT Organization: The Avant-Garde of the Now, Ltd. Message-ID: <2cu7lhINNdp4@network.ucsd.edu> Is anybody out there using a hypertext system? Maybe something like HyperCard or StoryLine for Macs? Does anybody want to suggest an app (or to warn me away from another)? I once heard a program called "I-think" (EyeThink??), but I've never seen it in the flesh, as it were. Thanks in advance, Brian -- ------ Brian Keeley --- UCSD Philosophy --- SIO Heiligenberg Lab ------ Phone:(619)534-2127(lab) - PGP public key available - NeXTmail accepted "Exterminate all rational thought." - W.S. Burroughs
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Compiling ispell 4.0 on NeXT... Date: 24 Nov 1993 11:09:53 -0000 Organization: me organized? That's a joke! Message-ID: <2cvfe1$6r3@steffi.demon.co.uk> References: <1993Nov18.171121.17882@sol.UVic.CA> <1993Nov24.005722.1453@cs.ucla.edu> geoff@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Geoff Kuenning) wrote >In article <1993Nov18.171121.17882@sol.UVic.CA> >mohenly@malahat.library.uvic.ca (Michael O'Henly) writes: > >> Has anyone built ispell 4.0 under NS3.0? > >Why would anyone want to? > >Ispell 3.0.09 compiles just fine under 3.0 (unsurprisingly, since >that's where I developed it) and has much more functionality. >-- > Geoff Kuenning geoff@maui.cs.ucla.edu geoff@ITcorp.com Seems to be working for me ok. root:/>ispell GNU Ispell, version 4.0. Copyright (C) 1990, 1993 Free Software Foundation, Inc. Ispell comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details run "ispell -W" This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it under certain conditions; run "ispell -C" for details. word:
From: hkusumo@socs.uts.EDU.AU (Haris Kusumo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: next file format Date: 25 Nov 1993 00:57:34 +1100 Organization: School of Computer Science, UTS Message-ID: <2cvp8e$qqo@syzygy.socs.uts.edu.au> Summary: next file format Keywords: next file format Hi, guys. I just wondering if you can tell me if NeXT uses the same unix file format as the other Unix. I have a problem when I down load the S3 driver and I stored the file into floppy from Sparc using tar command, and when I got home I try to load it into my NeXt and NeXT complaining about bad format. can you tell me what happened, do I have to stored it in DOS format ? If any of you have tried to install S3 driver from ftp.next.com, can you tell me how to install it please. Note: I am new to NeXT. I'll be appreciated if you could send me some e-mail to hkusumo@socs.uts.edu.au Thanks in advance.
From: murshid@unit.edu (Murshid) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Is there an app. with "center" and "size to fit" for 3.1 Date: 24 Nov 1993 15:57:39 GMT Organization: The Avant-Garde of the Now, Ltd. Distribution: world Message-ID: <2d009jINNnd4@network.ucsd.edu> Keywords: "center" and "size to fit" Scene had two features in its print panel: "center" and "size to fit". Is there an app that runs under 3.1 with these features?
From: pkron@corona.com (Peter Kron) Organization: Corona Design, Inc., Seattle, WA Distribution: world Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1993 06:17:07 PST Message-ID: <1993Nov24.141707.399@corona.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Anyone used SoftPC on 3.2 FIP yet? References: <1993Nov23.030805.17530@news.csuohio.edu> From: cowboy@omega.csuohio.edu (Joe Rosenfeld) > Hey can anyone report on how SoftPC running on a white > 3.2 machine performs? Yes, I received 3.2 last Friday and installed the SoftPC package. Installation and startup are pretty basic. I have tried accessing UNIX directories, floppies, and CD-ROM and all have worked, although I get some odd complaints about the floppy drive occasionally. Still seems to work though. I'm disappointed somewhat in the speed though. (I have a DX2/50.) Even DOS shell stuff in a window feels very sluggish. Full-screen is better, more like what I'd expect from emulated DOS. But even full-screen, Windows seems slow (gives a whole new meaning to "dragging" the mouse). Cut/Copy are terrible--probably due to preparing for paste into NEXTSTEP apps. I note that others claim it "screams"...so see for yourself. On the plus side, I copied Excel to a NEXTSTEP folder and mounted it on SoftPC. It came up and ran without a hitch...opened my ugliest spreadsheet and looks good. --- NeXTMail:Peter_Kron@corona.com Corona Design, Inc. P.O. Box 51022 Seattle, WA 98115-1022
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: lorinr@altsys.com (Lorin Rivers III) Subject: Re: HELP: Accidental deletion of mail messages Message-ID: <1993Nov24.170426.1339@altsys.com> Organization: Altsys Corporation, Richardson, TX References: <1993Nov23.163211.7783@crash> Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1993 17:04:26 GMT In article <1993Nov23.163211.7783@crash> coconut@crash.cts.com (Brian Dear) writes: >Every now and then I accidentally delete a mail message in Mail.app >by accidentally hitting the Delete button or clicking on the Delete >icon. There is no confirmation dialog box or anything and you have >no chance to undo the deletion. > >Or _is_ there some way I don't know of? I wish there was a Preference >option to toggle whether or not I want confirmation of deletion actions. > >-- bd > >* brian dear * coconut computing, inc. * brian@coconut.com * > Mail messages aren't actually deleted until you compact (Utilities=>Compact) your Mailbox (cmd-k). You can undelete (Edit=> Undelete) messages by pressing cmd-u. Other mail tips: the delete key deletes messages, cmd-D delivers... there's many more. Cheers -- Lorin Rivers Lorin_Rivers@altsys.com NEXTSTEP Sales Manager 214.680.2060 269 W. Renner Parkway NeXT Mail Expected Richardson, Texas 75080 I said it, not my boss
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy From: thompson@netcom.com (Eric Thompson) Subject: 3.2 black ship date Message-ID: <thompsonCH0I2y.KJA@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1993 19:56:58 GMT Just a reference point: I called NeXT 5 minutes ago and they said my 3.2 black would ship today or Monday (both User and Developer). can't wait, Eric thompson@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller) Subject: Re: Database Application Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 References: <2cqekr$rke@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Organization: Gerhard Moeller, German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg. Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1993 16:48:08 GMT Message-ID: <1993Nov24.164808.1003@proximus.north.de> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Klemens Seubert (seubert@cip.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de) wrote: > Hi, > > I am looking for a database-application that runs on black hardware > with NS 3.0. > A graphic userinterface (a la NeXTSTEP) would be great. There is DataPhile from StoneDesign and VarioData from ?? (some German Company) Both are flatfile Databases. VarioData has more features, I think. It also is said to understand SQL and is more flexible. (Can directly import to FrameMaker in MIF Format) Also there are many SQL Servers, which are expensive. Best to buy NeXTWORLD 11/93 (or 12/93?) -- There is a long article about DB engines on NeXT in it. Gerhard. -- +---------------------------< principiis obsta! >---------------------------+ N Gerhard Moeller, Hetzg. 32/11, A-1030 Wien (Austria) [*: 02/21/1968] N e Private: gemoe@proximus.north.de Phone (voice): +43-1-7151531 e X Uni: Gerhard.Moeller@arbi.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE NeXTmail X T Z-Net: Gerhard.Moeller@uniol.zer encouraged! T +-> NoGeNUG - Northern German NeXT User Group: NoGeNUG@proximus.north.DE <-+
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software From: mcentral@netcom.com (Media Central) Subject: is there a FAQ on NeXT-related-stuff ? Message-ID: <mcentralCH0J2w.M3A@netcom.com> Followup-To: poster Keywords: FAQ NEXT Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1993 20:18:32 GMT Hi folks, Suddenly Iam finding NeXT is the real thing and I would like to know more about it. Lets start with the FAQ, is their one ? cheers, shahid
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: next file format Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1993 17:15:27 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Chemistry, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <Ygwxnzy00iV004W4Uw@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <2cvp8e$qqo@syzygy.socs.uts.edu.au> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.misc: 25-Nov-93 next file format by Haris Kusumo > I just wondering if you can tell me if NeXT uses the same unix file format > as the other Unix. I have a problem when I down load the S3 driver and I > stored the file into floppy from Sparc using tar command, and when I got > home I try to load it into my NeXt and NeXT complaining about bad format. > can you tell me what happened, do I have to stored it in DOS format ? NeXT uses the BSD 4.3 filesystem, which is used by some other unixes. However, Sun is stuck with using the older BSD 4.2 filesystem, and they are not compatible, as you have discovered. :-) You could use DOS format to transfer the files; you could also write to the disk in raw format using tar: tar xvf /dev/fd0a _files_ (or whatever device the floppy drive maps to on the Sun).... -Chuck Charles William Swiger -- CMU...*splat*! | 1. You can't fly. --------------------------------------------+ 2. Cars are always real, even AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | when they're not. Failing that: cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu | 3. Police are not your friends. NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | 4. Fire burns.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: coconut@crash.cts.com (Brian Dear) Subject: Re: HELP: Accidental deletion of mail messages Organization: Coconut Computing, Inc., La Jolla, CA Date: 24 Nov 93 16:42:50 PST Message-ID: <1993Nov24.164250.23514@crash> References: <1993Nov24.170426.1339@altsys.com> Thanks to the dozens and DOZENS and I mean DOZENS of helpful NeXTfolk who set me straight on Undeleting NeXT mail messages. All these years, and I didn't even think of trying it. I have, by the way, been using the Compact option (Cmd-K) for years. I just didn't know about Cmd-U. I still think there should be a Preference for confirmation of deleted msgs. Again, thanks to all that helped. I think I heard from everyone. :-) -- bd * brian dear * coconut computing, inc. * brian@coconut.com *
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: ggerard@Alex.Engr.Trinity.Edu (Greg Gerard) Subject: printing the GCC manuals under TeXview Message-ID: <1993Nov25.004619.22565@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> Sender: news@ringer.cs.utsa.edu Organization: Trinity University, San Antonio TX. USA References: <2d0tg2$b5p@cmcl2.NYU.EDU> Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1993 00:46:19 GMT I have the texinfo.tex stuff that the .texi format requires and the docs print. Here's the problem: I am printing to a 600 dpi Apple LaserWriterPro 630 and the output is truly atrocious. Some parts are good, most is ho-hum, and some parts look like a 10 pt bitmap that has been scaled. I have added stuff to MakeTeXPK so that it can find the 600 dpi thing. The base files have been changed to reflect this. When I go to print, dvips complains to no end about fonts not being at the right size and says it is scaling from a very low quality font. What's going on? thanks, greg
From: guy@Auspex.COM (Guy Harris) Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: cancel Message-ID: <19097@auspex-gw.auspex.com> Date: 25 Nov 93 01:35:30 GMT Control: cancel <19095@auspex-gw.auspex.com> Sender: news@auspex-gw.auspex.com Followup-To: gnu.misc.discuss <19095@auspex-gw.auspex.com> was cancelled from within trn.
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Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.programm,comp.sys.next.software From: sjh@unixuser.chi.il.us Subject: Re: OpenStep References: <2ctds8$jch@skates.gsfc.nasa.gov> <RV.93Nov23121954@fiji.cs.brown.edu> <1993Nov23.232919.11274@kf8nh.wariat.org> Organization: UNIX USER BBS System Batavia, IL Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1993 01:56:47 GMT Message-ID: <1993Nov25.015647.24340@unixuser.chi.il.us> In <1993Nov23.232919.11274@kf8nh.wariat.org> bsa@kf8nh.wariat.org (Brandon S. Allbery) writes: >In article <RV.93Nov23121954@fiji.cs.brown.edu> rv@cs.brown.edu (rodrigo vanegas) writes: >>In article <2ctds8$jch@skates.gsfc.nasa.gov>, cahalan@clouds.gsfc.nasa.gov (Robert F. Cahalan) writes: >>> In June 1994 NeXT will release "OpenStep" to the public domain >>> This will be a full and open version of their operating system >>> interface, with the full object heirarchy, the Interface >>> Builder, and the underlying messaging system. >> >>April 1st is hardly around the corner... is this for real? >You mean I'm not the only one who finds this dubious? >Consider, folks: >* NeXTStep for Intel only just came out, with a price tag which will limit its > spread. If OpenStep were released, companies could easily undercut NeXT. >* Sun going with a NeXTStep clone is rather unlikely now that they've taken > a major traumatic step in adopting Motif to support COSE. >And, most importantly: >* NeXTStep is NeXT's only product now!* I have real trouble imagining them > staying in business at all after this move... unless this announcement is > for real, in which case I'd say its NeXT's way of annoucing that they've > suddenly decided that they can't cut it as a software company. (Well, yes, > they could be turning into a Cygnus-like organization, but it seems a rather > strange move to me.) Here we go again. This is the same confusion people were spreading over Motif becoming "free". The SPECS are going to be released, not the code. Theoretically of course, once the specs are released somebody could write a NeXTStep clone. But that would be a LOT of work.
From: mycroft@colourbox.utexas.edu (Alex Currier) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: JOB: Entertainment company seeking NEXTSTEP programmers Date: 25 Nov 1993 07:41:38 GMT Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas Message-ID: <2d1nji$dgo@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> References: <2cuoa2$hu7@digifix.digifix.com> In article <2cuoa2$hu7@digifix.digifix.com> gdevine@well.sf.ca.us (Graeme Devine) writes: > Trilobyte, an entertainment CD-ROM company in Southern Oregon, is looking > some new programming staff. Trilobyte designed and produced "The Seventh > Guest", for the IBM PC & Macintosh platform. Since it's launch in April > 1993, The Seventh Guest has remained at the #1 position in CD-ROM > entertainment sales. It's sequel, XIth Hour will be released in February on > the IBM/Macintosh/3DO platforms. > Trilobyte is looking for people with the following interests and skills > > - Video Compression > - Physical Dynamic Systems > - Authoring Tools > - Interest in the Gaming field > - Experience programming in NEXTSTEP, DOS, Macintosh, Assembler, C > - Relocation to Southern Oregon > - can drink lots of coffee Can this mean that we might start seeing some serious CD-ROM based games for NeXTSTEP? -- ============================================================================== Alex Currier * mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu * NeXTmail capable!! 0000000700F6208F479D391F0D205D6F055500000007DB58CE6FCA79D9FB19BCD42807B6 ==============================================================================
From: mycroft@colourbox.utexas.edu (Alex Currier) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: New hope for NeXTSTEP software market? Date: 25 Nov 1993 08:17:41 GMT Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas Message-ID: <2d1pn5$e38@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> With the rising hopes for NeXTSTEP springing from recent announcements I wonder if current developers feel more stable about investing time and money in their NeXTSTEP products. Will we see updates for Frame, Illustrator and WordPerfect? More to the point, will proposed NeXTSTEP projects which have lain dormant be picked up again? Last year I was very excited about some literature I received from MetroSoft about a MIDI sequencing project they had in the works. Might MetroTracks become a reality? I think NeXTSTEP and NeXT hardware (and intel based machines with DSP add ons) are uniquely suited for MIDI and digital audio production. I would like to see a professional quality sequencer app (which can take advantage of the 128 MIDI channel MOTU Midi Time Piece) with integrated digital audio. I would like to see a nice patch editor/librarian and notation software. I suppose I'd like to have Digital Performer, Mosaic and Unisyn for NeXTSTEP but a choice of quality apps designed specifically for NS would be nice. I guess all in all my question is will new custom markets open up as a result of the SUN announcement? Will NeXT's new credibility fuel the development of the general use desktop market? Will we start seeing Mac and Windows developers scrambling to get in on the ground floor of NeXTSTEP/OpenStep? Can I begin to hope for a wide variety of high quality applications and a dramatic increase in shareware/PD development for NeXTSTEP starting now? The news that Trilobyte (the makers of 7th Guest CD-ROM game for DOS) are hiring NeXTSTEP developers is interesting... could this be the start of a trend? I'd like to hear that we NS users will have wider avenues of choice for software in the very near future. Even better I'd like to hear that I can go to Computer City and demo/buy NeXTSTEP software. -- ============================================================================== Alex Currier * mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu * NeXTmail capable!! 0000000700F6208F479D391F0D205D6F055500000007DB58CE6FCA79D9FB19BCD42807B6 ==============================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,andi.misc From: marketing@nextsrv1.andi.org (Marketing Director) Subject: Re: HyperTeXT anyone? Message-ID: <CH0EM6.5JL@nextsrv1.andi.org> Keywords: ANDI,Hypersense,Thoughtful Sender: usenet@nextsrv1.andi.org (usenet) Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International References: <2cu7lhINNdp4@network.ucsd.edu> Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1993 18:42:05 GMT In article <2cu7lhINNdp4@network.ucsd.edu> gysin@mugwump.ucsd.edu (Reality) writes: > Is anybody out there using a hypertext system? Maybe something like > HyperCard or StoryLine for Macs? Does anybody want to suggest an app Contact Thoughtful Software about their new program Hypersense. Their email address is: dsimons@thoughtful.com --- Bill Strehl Executive Director ANDI - Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International, Inc. reply to:marketing@nextsrv1.andi.org "Take the NeXTSTEP and Keep on Truckin'..."
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Quick Guide to the comp.sys.next.* newsgroups Date: 25 Nov 1993 02:48:50 -0500 Organization: Next Announcements Message-ID: <2d1o12$824@digifix.digifix.com> The current menagerie: comp.sys.next.advocacy This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. comp.sys.next.announce Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) The NEXTSTEP FAQs are posted here monthly as well. This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. comp.sys.next.bugs A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well. comp.sys.next.hardware Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. comp.sys.next.marketplace NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. comp.sys.next.misc For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! comp.sys.next.programmer Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. The NEXTSTEP programmer FAQs are posted here. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. comp.sys.next.software This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. comp.sys.next.sysadmin Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. related Newsgroups comp.soft-sys.nextstep Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. comp.lang.objective-c Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. comp.object Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep-d next-advocacy-d next-announce-d next-bugs-d next-hardware-d next-marketplace-d next-misc-d next-programmer-d next-software-d next-sysadmin-d (For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to <digestif@antigone.com>). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's. To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying: SUB Listname YourName Example: SUB next-hardware-d John Doe -------------------------------------------------------------------- Written by: Eric P. Scott eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU Minor editing: Scott Anguish sanguish@digifix.com Additions from: Greg Anderson (Greg_Anderson@afs.com) and Michael Pizolato (Michael_Pizolato@afs.com)
Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.programm,comp.sys.next.software From: bsa@kf8nh.wariat.org (Brandon S. Allbery) Subject: Re: OpenStep References: <2ctds8$jch@skates.gsfc.nasa.gov> <RV.93Nov23121954@fiji.cs.brown.edu> <1993Nov23.232919.11274@kf8nh.wariat.org> <1993Nov25.015647.24340@unixuser.chi.il.us> Organization: Brandon's Linux box and AmPR node, Mentor, OH Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1993 13:40:01 GMT Message-ID: <1993Nov25.134001.21384@kf8nh.wariat.org> In article <1993Nov25.015647.24340@unixuser.chi.il.us> sjh@unixuser.chi.il.us writes: >In <1993Nov23.232919.11274@kf8nh.wariat.org> bsa@kf8nh.wariat.org (Brandon S. Allbery) writes: >>In article <RV.93Nov23121954@fiji.cs.brown.edu> rv@cs.brown.edu (rodrigo vanegas) writes: >>>In article <2ctds8$jch@skates.gsfc.nasa.gov>, cahalan@clouds.gsfc.nasa.gov (Robert F. Cahalan) writes: >>>> In June 1994 NeXT will release "OpenStep" to the public domain >>>> This will be a full and open version of their operating system >>>> interface, with the full object heirarchy, the Interface >>>> Builder, and the underlying messaging system. >>> >>>April 1st is hardly around the corner... is this for real? > >>You mean I'm not the only one who finds this dubious? >>Consider, folks: >>* NeXTStep for Intel only just came out, with a price tag which will limit its >> spread. If OpenStep were released, companies could easily undercut NeXT. >Here we go again. This is the same confusion people were spreading over >Motif becoming "free". The SPECS are going to be released, not the >code. That was my point: I disbelieved the claim that the *implementation* was being released, and posted reasons why I considered it unlikely. I have since received clarification from NeXT about it, confirming that it is in fact the *specifications* that are being released. So can we lay this to rest now? ++Brandon -- Brandon S. Allbery kf8nh@kf8nh.ampr.org bsa@kf8nh.wariat.org "MSDOS didn't get as bad as it is overnight -- it took over ten years of careful development." ---dmeggins@aix1.uottawa.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: mark@cyantic.com (Mark T. Dornfeld) Subject: Downloading fonts to non-NeXT printers Organization: CYANTIC Systems Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1993 21:15:45 GMT Message-ID: <1993Nov24.211545.23497@cyantic.com> Is there a way to download non-resident fonts to non-Next PS printers. I thought I had seen something on about this a while back. -- Mark T. Dornfeld, CYANTIC Systems Voice: (416) 234-9048 101 Subway Crescent Suite 2103 Facsimile: (416) 234-0477 Etobicoke, Ontario, M9B 6K4 CANADA Email: mark@cyantic.com
From: mitroo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Varun Mitroo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: CD-sampling (a summary of replies) Date: 25 Nov 1993 20:07:55 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <2d33ar$si@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> References: <2cu6ceINNdh2@network.ucsd.edu> In article <2cu6ceINNdh2@network.ucsd.edu> reality@ucsd.edu writes: >Some six months or so ago, I posted the following question and then >promptly lost access to News. I'm living up to my NetResponsibility by >(belatedly) posting the answers I got. I won't summarize them, because >the answers solutions are too significantly different to compress. > >My original question: > >>Howdy. This is a potentially stupid question, but here goes: >> >>Can anyone suggest what kind of software and hardware I might use to >> create sound files using a Compact Disc as the source? I essentially >> want to do some "sampling". >> >> I've seen CD-ROM players hooked up to NeXTs, but they seem to only >> have two capabilities: 1) read CD-ROM data and 2) *play* CDs through >> the NeXT speakers (or through the RCA jacks into a stereo system). >> I want to be able to read the data on a music CD into .snd, .au, or >> any other NeXT-playable sound file. > >Here are the responses: > >------------------------------------------------------------ [DELETED] I was experimenting with my NeXTstep/Intel system, and I came across a built- in way of doing this in DOS/Windows: My hardware includes a Toshiba 3401 SCSI CD-ROM connected to a ProAudio Spectrum-16 sound card. Using the included MediaPlayer program in Windows and the PocketRecorder and PocketMixer programs included with the PAS-16, I can record directly off the cd as a .WAV file. There are options for setting the sampling rate from 8.0 to 44.1 KHz, mono/stereo, and 8 or 16 bit sampling. Using the Mixer program, you can change the recording level, balance, bass, and treble. You can even combine sound from different sources - play music off the CD-ROM while playing back a wav file or while talking into the microphone. I tried making a 4 minute sample at 44.1 KHz, Stereo, 16 bit sampling off an audio CD. The size of the file was over 44 megs without compression! Varun
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller) Subject: Re: HELP: Accidental deletion of mail messages Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 References: <1993Nov23.163211.7783@crash> Mime-Version: 1.0 Organization: Gerhard Moeller, German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg. Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1993 21:37:52 GMT Message-ID: <1993Nov24.213752.2157@proximus.north.de> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Brian Dear (coconut@crash.cts.com) wrote: > Every now and then I accidentally delete a mail message in Mail.app > by accidentally hitting the Delete button or clicking on the Delete > icon. There is no confirmation dialog box or anything and you have > no chance to undo the deletion. > > Or _is_ there some way I don't know of? I wish there was a Preference > option to toggle whether or not I want confirmation of deletion actions. Easy. Just click Cmd-u and your last deleted message reappears, unless you have compressed your mbox (Cmd-k). (Sorry, I don't know the menu-entry. I just use the keys...) Hope it helped, Gerhard. BTW: Why not Click Cmd-? and look for "undelete" or "delete" or "undo"? -- +---------------------------< principiis obsta! >---------------------------+ N Gerhard Moeller, Hetzg. 32/11, A-1030 Wien (Austria) [*: 02/21/1968] N e Private: gemoe@proximus.north.de Phone (voice): +43-1-7151531 e X Uni: Gerhard.Moeller@arbi.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE NeXTmail X T Z-Net: Gerhard.Moeller@uniol.zer encouraged! T +-> NoGeNUG - Northern German NeXT User Group: NoGeNUG@proximus.north.DE <-+
From: alevine@ucsd.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: 3.2 black ship date Date: 25 Nov 1993 22:20:08 GMT Organization: A poorly-installed InterNetNews site Distribution: world Message-ID: <2d3b2oINN3tg@network.ucsd.edu> References: <thompsonCH0I2y.KJA@netcom.com> In article <thompsonCH0I2y.KJA@netcom.com> thompson@netcom.com (Eric Thompson) writes: > Just a reference point: I called NeXT 5 minutes ago and they said > my 3.2 black would ship today or Monday (both User and Developer). > > can't wait, > > Eric > thompson@netcom.com Hmm. I got my developer CD a week ago. Still waiting for the user CD, though. -- Alexander Levine Department of Philosophy alevine@ucsd.edu 0302, UCSD NeXTMail fine La Jolla, CA 92093 ************************************************ Disclaimer: I am responsible for all opinions expressed by anyone at any time.
From: rcfa@cubiculum.com (Ronald C.F. Antony) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NSI installation... Date: 25 Nov 1993 23:43:49 GMT Organization: NeXT-BUG (NeXT at Brown University Group) Distribution: world Message-ID: <2d3fvl$bgk@tunix.cubiculum.com> Keywords: Handbook NSI Installation Boot Floppy I just got a new toy: a Gateway 2000 Handbook 486DX-2 40MHz, with a 120MB HD. This is a really cute thing, weighs about 3lbs. Great display (at least for its size). Just the thing to take with you wherever you go. The only grief so far is Windows. I could not imagine it is THAT BAD. Even playing with the control panel, playing MineSweep etc. crashes Windows about 3 times in an hour :-( And yes, it is Windows and not the hardware, since after Windows crashes, you are at the DOS prompt and can keep working there, if you are so inclined. Well end of diatribe. Of course I did not buy this thin to run DOS/Windows, but I hope to get NSI running on this machine, since it has just about the minimum specs. It should be fine for running emacs, getting UUCP mail etc. So here the question: Did anyone manage to install NSI without a CD-ROM, by doing some strange thing with boot floppies, serial cable, kermit etc.? If so any hints are welcome. Also, is it at all possible to get a boot floppy on a 1.44MB disk? Besides that, if nobody knows how to do that, I might have to take the thing apart and stick the disk drive (IDE) into a "REAL" PC with NSI, and then run Builddisk on it, then stick it back... Thanks. Please send copies of replies by email to me, I might not be able to keep up with news... And yes: I will post something, if (or if not) I succeed installing NSI on that cute little thing... :-) -- Ronald ============================================================================== "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man." G.B. Shaw ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ rcfa@cubiculum.com rcfa@ANDI.org rcfa@sleepy.cis.brown.edu | NeXT-mail welcome
From: dan@quiensabe.az.stratus.com (Dan Danz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Downloading fonts to non-NeXT printers Date: 26 Nov 1993 01:51:41 GMT Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA Message-ID: <2d3nfd$s5i@transfer.stratus.com> References: <1993Nov24.211545.23497@cyantic.com> Mark T. Dornfeld writes > Is there a way to download non-resident fonts to non-Next PS printers. > I thought I had seen something on about this a while back. fontloader(1) UNIX Programmer's Manual fontloader(1) NAME fontloader - Install typefaces in non-NeXT printer SYNOPSIS fontloader [ -p password ] typeface ... -- L. W. "Dan" Danz (WA5SKM) VOS Mail: Dan_Danz@vos.stratus.com Sr Consulting Software SE NeXT Mail: dan@az.stratus.com Customer Assistance Center Voice Mail/Pager: (602) 852-3107 Telecommunications Division Customer Service: (800) 828-8513 Stratus Computer, Inc. 4455 E. Camelback #115-A, Phoenix AZ 85018
From: mpetach@storm.Stanford.EDU (Matthew N. Petach) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NSI installation... Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Date: 26 Nov 1993 07:04:16 GMT Organization: Stanford University Distribution: world Message-ID: <2d49pg$4nd@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> References: <2d3fvl$bgk@tunix.cubiculum.com> NB: bounce to user. Ronald C.F. Antony (rcfa@cubiculum.com) wrote: : I just got a new toy: a Gateway 2000 Handbook 486DX-2 40MHz, with a 120MB HD. : This is a really cute thing, weighs about 3lbs. Great display (at least for : its size). Just the thing to take with you wherever you go. I assume you have a parallel port on this? : Of course I did not buy this thin to run DOS/Windows, but I hope to get NSI : running on this machine, since it has just about the minimum specs. It should : be fine for running emacs, getting UUCP mail etc. Yes, you should have enough to do it... : So here the question: Did anyone manage to install NSI without a CD-ROM, by : doing some strange thing with boot floppies, serial cable, kermit etc.? : If so any hints are welcome. : Also, is it at all possible to get a boot floppy on a 1.44MB disk? The 3.1 boot floppy _is_ a 1.44 MB floppy. :-) Well, not a boot floppy per se, but an installer floppy. I would suggest you get one of Trantor's Parallel->SCSI adapters for the unit so that you can connect a CD-ROM to the machine and try installing it that way. : Besides that, if nobody knows how to do that, I might have to take the thing : apart and stick the disk drive (IDE) into a "REAL" PC with NSI, and then run : Builddisk on it, then stick it back... If you can do that, you'd probably be safest doing that. Don't actually configure the machine until the drive is back in the notebook; just install the software, then put the HD back, then run the configure program so it can set the hardware that is actually in the notebook correctly. : Thanks. Please send copies of replies by email to me, I might not be able to : keep up with news... Wish I could, but this newsreader won't let me. I'll bounce a copy of this once it shows up on our nntp server. : And yes: I will post something, if (or if not) I succeed installing NSI on : that cute little thing... :-) : -- Ronald Great! Matt
From: charlesa@learned.co.uk Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Nextmail & MIME Date: Fri, 26 Nov 93 11:31:25 GMT Organization: EUnet GB Message-ID: <2d4pku$hqe@marble.Britain.EU.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Anybody know if NeXTMail can do MIMEmail?? Anybody know of any plans/projects to get it to do so?? Thanks. Charles charlesa@learned.co.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: antoine@arrakis.osd.ulaval.ca (Antoine Gautier) Subject: How to toggle window // full screen Message-ID: <CH3sow.LDC@athena.ulaval.ca> Sender: news@athena.ulaval.ca Organization: CTI, Universite Laval Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1993 14:38:55 GMT Hi there, Just wondering if anyone has written a TickleService or other trick to toggle any application between, say, regular size window (1/4 screen) and full screen. I would find that truly useful when working with several apps as the same time. Cheers! -- +-------------------------------------------------------+ | Antoine Gautier | | Departement OSD, FSA | | Universite Laval, Quebec, PQ | | Internet: Antoine@arrakis.osd.ulaval.ca | +-------------------------------------------------------+
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: A.leene@research.ptt.nl (Arnaud Leene) Subject: strange noises from my pizzabox Message-ID: <1993Nov26.141113.17381@spider.research.ptt.nl> Sender: usenet@spider.research.ptt.nl (USEnet News) Organization: PTT Research, The Netherlands Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1993 14:11:13 GMT Hai, Ijust got my NeXTstation and I am trying to work things out. I hear a strange noise coming from the box each time as something changes on the screen. Thus when I move a window, let a menu pop-up or something else it it makes noise. I guess I am hearing my harddrive, but is not so loud as a real disk-access. So my guess is that I have some swap problem. Anybody know what the problem is and how I can solve it? Arnaud Dr. Arnaud Leene !!!!NeXTmail Welcome!!!! PTT Research Tele-informatics Post: P.O. Box 15000, 9700 CD Groningen. Fysical: Winschoterdiep OZ 46, 9723 AC Groningen Voice: +31 50 821086 Fax: +31 50 122415 Email (Internet): A.Leene@research.ptt.nl Email (X.400): C=NL;A=400Net;P=PTT Research;S=Leene
From: fxg@gimli.tolkien.imib.rwth-aachen.de (Felix Gatzemeier #Alwd#) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Re: makefile question Date: 26 Nov 1993 15:03:47 GMT Organization: Rechnerbetrieb Informatik - RWTH Aachen Message-ID: <FXG.93Nov26160349@gimli.tolkien.imib.rwth-aachen.de> References: <2cr1gk$4cu@marble.Britain.EU.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-reply-to: charlesa@mailhost.learned.co.uk's message of Mon, 22 Nov 93 18:40:12 PST Well. The error you made here is to think tha the .h file will be read by make. It won't (in most cases). A name.h (or name.m, name.c, for that matter) will be read by the C compiler that is invoked by make. The programs use different Syntax. In C, a comment starts with "/*" and ends with "*/". In makefiles, comments start with "#" and end with a line break. C uses the hash to mark Preprocessor commands in C. Make has some file-timestamp - based rules on when to "see" files, plus the non-comment lines in the makefile. Thus, make will "see" your config.h once it's newer than the file you want as the result of the compilation (and if it's listed correctly in the makefile you got, what youu should be able to count on). The C compiler still counts on the #. #define ID "text" tells C to replace instances of "ID" with ""text"" (including the inner quotes). define ID "text" makes no particular sense, but could be read as: Create a variable with Name ID and type define, then choke on "text". Which may explain some of the errors. -- Felix (fxg@(([Pool|I3].Informatik)|(Tolkien.ImIB)).RWTH-Aachen.de NeXT-Mail ok, but slow)
From: rgc@wam.umd.edu (Ross Garrett Cutler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: MAB version of AcChen? Date: 26 Nov 1993 15:18:25 GMT Organization: University of Maryland, College Park Message-ID: <2d56o1$rjm@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> Is there a MAB versino of AcChen available? This was one of the best games on black hardware. Thanks, Ross. -- Ross Cutler University of Maryland, College Park Internet: rgc@wam.umd.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) Subject: Re: HyperTeXT anyone? Message-ID: <CH2uEx.MK0@utstat.toronto.edu> Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics References: <2cu7lhINNdp4@network.ucsd.edu> Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1993 02:18:33 GMT In article <2cu7lhINNdp4@network.ucsd.edu> reality@ucsd.edu writes: >Is anybody out there using a hypertext system? Maybe something like >HyperCard or StoryLine for Macs? Does anybody want to suggest an app (or >to warn me away from another)? I use HyperSense from Thoughtful Software (info@thoughtful.com). It's better than HyperCard. In any case you can convert HC stacks for the most part. It runs on black and white NeXT's. I really like this program. > -- Philip McDunnough University of Toronto philip@utstat.toronto.edu [Where sheep may safely graze...]
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NSI installation... Date: 26 Nov 1993 17:23:06 GMT Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office Distribution: world Message-ID: <2d5e1r$s52@news.mic.ucla.edu> References: <2d3fvl$bgk@tunix.cubiculum.com> <2d49pg$4nd@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> I know that no parallel port or PCMCIA SCSI adapter have been certified for NS. I believe none have even been reported to work (either during or after installation). If my information is incorrect, I'd love to know. Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu Asst Prof of Finance iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu AGSM at UCLA PS: 120MB is VERY VERY small for a NS system. I'd probably look into something smaller, like Linux.
From: gregory@athena.mit.edu (Gregory B Howland) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Nextmail & MIME Date: 26 Nov 1993 17:39:17 GMT Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology Distribution: world Message-ID: <2d5f05$f98@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> References: <2d4pku$hqe@marble.Britain.EU.net> It is now possible to fax for free using email with MIME. I found this article in the Washington Post last summer. I have not been able to get it to work yet. If anyone is succesful at it please post how you did it. Reprinted from the Washington Post: INTERNET'S E-MAIL-TO-FAX Log another first for the Internet: free E-mail-to-fax service. Meeting in Amersterdam, engineers from the global computer network announced last week that they had rejiggered things so that E-Mail messages can emerge as shiny paper. For now, you can send faxes only to certain places, including Japan, Ireland, Silicon Valley and yes, the Washington [D.C.] area. Also for now, the service works only with E-mail software using the MIME standard. But try it. Send to: remote-printer@"faxnumber"tpc.int. The fax number must be written in reverse (that is, backward), include country and area code and have periods between each digit.
From: jauderho@umich.edu (Jauder Ho) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Looking for WWW on NeXT Date: 26 Nov 1993 17:54:57 GMT Organization: University of Michigan, High Energy Spin Phyics Distribution: usa Message-ID: <2d5fth$3sa@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> Originator: jauderho@terence.ccs.itd.umich.edu I found the WWW browser fot NeXT that day. But I seem to have lost it as I just left in in /tmp. I also seem to have forgotten the ftp address for the program. If someone could e-mail me with the address, I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks. --Jauder -- ADVISORY: There Is an Extremely Small but Nonzero Chance That, Through a Process Known as 'Tunneling,' This Message May Spontaneously Disappear from Its Present Location and Reappear at Any Random Place in the Universe, Including Your Neighbour's Kitchen. The Author Will Not Be
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Anyone used SoftPC on 3.2 FIP yet? Date: 26 Nov 1993 18:25:47 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL USA Message-ID: <2d5hnb$le7@news.acns.nwu.edu> References: <1993Nov23.030805.17530@news.csuohio.edu> <1993Nov24.141707.399@corona.com> In article <1993Nov24.141707.399@corona.com>, Peter Kron <pkron@corona.com> wrote: >From: cowboy@omega.csuohio.edu (Joe Rosenfeld)>> Hey can anyone report on how SoftPC running on a white >> 3.2 machine performs? > >Yes, I received 3.2 last Friday and installed the SoftPC package. >Installation and startup are pretty basic. I have tried accessing UNIX >directories, floppies, and CD-ROM and all have worked, although I get >some odd complaints about the floppy drive occasionally. Still seems >to work though. I've had trouble with my DOS partition. It mounts but all the directories and contents come up bad or with sector read error. Chkdsk reports the directories as "illegal". Going back to DOS/NEXT the directories and files appear as fine. The dos partition is >100 mb and some others have reported problems with partitions >64 mb under Nextstep. The partition was created with 6.0 dos and Softpc is 5.0 dos, but I'd be suprised if that was the difference. I am not using any disk-doubling. > >I'm disappointed somewhat in the speed though. (I have a DX2/50.) Even >DOS shell stuff in a window feels very sluggish. Full-screen is >better, more like what I'd expect from emulated DOS. But even >full-screen, Windows seems slow (gives a whole new meaning to >"dragging" the mouse). Cut/Copy are terrible--probably due to >preparing for paste into NEXTSTEP apps. I note that others claim it >"screams"...so see for yourself. My DX2/66 is sluggish too. Takes forever for windows to start. I've only got 16mb ram, so at first I thought it was a memory crunch, but disk I/O is almost non-existant so I don't think I'm swaping. I've not been able to get full screen mode to work. Switching to it gives me a completely black screen. Fortunately ctrl-alt-del returns control to Softpc/Next and I can kill softpc in a controlled manner. I'm using a Gateway with ATI XLR board running 1120 x 832 16 bit color. These are extremely early results. Its entirely possible I messed up something in the upgrade. -- Jerry S. Weiss j-weiss@nwu.edu Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois %SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Sluggish NewsGrazer (Re: NeXT and Sun - RTF readers only) Date: 26 Nov 1993 22:16:48 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Distribution: world Message-ID: <2d5v8g$iac@agate.berkeley.edu> References: <1993Nov26.190625.294@gleap.sccsi.com> In article <1993Nov26.190625.294@gleap.sccsi.com> clloyd@gleap (Charles C. Lloyd) writes: >Art Isbell writes >>> >>> Now why does that RTF post make my NewsGrazer go a little bit haywire? >> >>Yeah, mine, too. After reading this article, NewsGrazer (2.0 v.72.3) >>became very sluggish when scrolling articles and displaying new articles. >>Probably a bug that we'll have to live with. > >Not all rtf posts cause this problem. It's only when a color is used that this >happens. You must be talking about lazy WindowDepth promotion from 2-bit gray to RGB color. It's not a bug, but it is a feature, unless NG also becomes sluggish on Mono cubes and stations after viewing color RTF. If you want to avoid sluggishness and are willing to lose color capability for NewsGrazer, do from shell: dwrite NewsGrazer NXWindowDepthLimit TwoBitGray This will prevent NewsGrazer windows from promotings its window depth to color. Don't do this with FrameMaker or WordPerfect, though, they run faster when their windows are in RGB depth on Color stations. What NEXTSTEP should support is *user-activated* Window Depth un-promotion (or should I say "demotion" (?, I am not native)), whereby we can explicitly reduce the window depth of a specified window without destroying and recreating it. Or, maybe we all just need faster machines after all. -- Izumi Ohzawa [ $@Bg_78^=;(J ] USMail: University of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720 Telephone: (510) 642-6440 Fax: (510) 642-3323 Internet: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (NeXTMail OK)
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Emacs 19 under Co-Xist? Date: 26 Nov 1993 23:10:15 -0000 Organization: me organized? That's a joke! Message-ID: <2d62cn$29s@steffi.demon.co.uk> Has anybody compiled the latest Emacs 19 that works with Co-Xist? (NS3.1) How big is the binary compared to the enormous source distribution?
From: gwh@cs.mcgill.ca (Gene W HOMICKI) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: AFS client software Date: 26 Nov 1993 23:54:18 GMT Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada Distribution: world Message-ID: <2d64va$2ga@homer.cs.mcgill.ca> References: <QgwOtju00iV44FOuoR@andrew.cmu.edu> In article <QgwOtju00iV44FOuoR@andrew.cmu.edu>, Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> wrote: > >If you are referring to the Andrew File System, then yes. Contact >info@transarc.com (I believe that's the right userid) for more >information. > To my knowledge Transarc has not updated their AFS client software for NeXT machines running 3.x. So, to run AFS, you need black hardware running 2.x. If this is no longer the case, I'd also like to know about it. Please do send mail to transarc about it though. A show of support is usually helpful anyway. :-) --Gene gwh@cs.mcgill.ca
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Emacs 19 under Co-Xist? Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1993 19:20:38 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Chemistry, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <kgxdpKm00WBOM3uUwu@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <2d62cn$29s@steffi.demon.co.uk> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 26-Nov-93 Emacs 19 under Co-Xist? by Robert Nicholson@steffi. > Has anybody compiled the latest Emacs 19 that works with Co-Xist? (NS3.1) > > How big is the binary compared to the enormous source distribution? I have compiled emacs-19.21 *without* X...it's 893K. I'd imagine the X version would be around 1.2MB. Note that you can greatly reduce the size of the distribution because you can delete most of the files. Specifically, once you've gotten a compilation that works well, you can delete src/, lib-src/, everything in etc/ except DOC* and TUTORIAL, all of the .el files in lisp _that_have_.elc_files_ (*very important warning*). You should also kill the *Changelog, README, and other miscellaneous documentation files. You can also delete a lot of the .elc files that don't do anything for you, like the mail handling stuff. My /usr/local/emacs dir is about 9.5MB... -Chuck Charles William Swiger -- CMU...*splat*! | 1. You can't fly. --------------------------------------------+ 2. Cars are always real, even AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | when they're not. Failing that: cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu | 3. Police are not your friends. NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | 4. Fire burns.
From: hal@alfred.econ.lsa.umich.edu (Hal Varian) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: AFS client software Date: 27 Nov 1993 00:37:10 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Distribution: world Message-ID: <2d67fm$fgb@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu> References: <QgwOtju00iV44FOuoR@andrew.cmu.edu> <2d64va$2ga@homer.cs.mcgill.ca> In article <2d64va$2ga@homer.cs.mcgill.ca> gwh@cs.mcgill.ca (Gene W HOMICKI) writes: > >In article <QgwOtju00iV44FOuoR@andrew.cmu.edu>, >Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> wrote: >> >>If you are referring to the Andrew File System, then yes. Contact >>info@transarc.com (I believe that's the right userid) for more >>information. >> > > To my knowledge Transarc has not updated their AFS client >software for NeXT machines running 3.x. So, to run AFS, you need >black hardware running 2.x. If this is no longer the case, I'd also >like to know about it. I've been running AFS on NS 3.0, 3.1 and 3.2. The only problem that I have encountered is that I can't get a clean reboot; other than that, it seems to work fine. -- Hal.Varian@umich.edu Hal Varian voice: 313-764-2364 Dept of Economics fax: 313-764-2364 Univ of Michigan Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1220
Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.programm,comp.sys.next.software From: person@plains.NoDak.edu (Brett Person) Subject: Re: OpenStep Sender: usenet@ns1.nodak.edu (Usenet login) Message-ID: <CH4sJJ.3vrD@ns1.nodak.edu> Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1993 03:33:18 GMT References: <2ctds8$jch@skates.gsfc.nasa.gov> Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network In article <2ctds8$jch@skates.gsfc.nasa.gov> cahalan@clouds.gsfc.nasa.gov (Robert F. Cahalan) writes: >In June 1994 NeXT will release "OpenStep" to the public domain >This will be a full and open version of their operating system >interface, with the full object heirarchy, the Interface >Builder, and the underlying messaging system. > >Also, how about a version of OpenStep for linux? >Comments, linux developers? Yeah! I'd support this! I've been considering working on something I've named XStep. I love the next interface. IB is great and it will be fun to have it for Linux. What does this say for the future of Next? Are they as on the rocks as I think they are? They've gone from a good soft/hardware company to just a software company and now they are giving the software away?? What DOES this say for Next? -- Brett Person North Dakota State University person@plains.nodak.edu || person@plains.bitnet
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: tjhendry@mcs.drexel.edu (Jonathan Hendry) Subject: Re: OpenStep and DPS ? Message-ID: <1993Nov27.061940.26832@netnews.noc.drexel.edu> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Sender: news@netnews.noc.drexel.edu Organization: Drexel University, Dept. of Math. and Comp. Sci. References: <2ctmko$qd3@agate.berkeley.edu> <2cukrm$m5f@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1993 06:19:40 GMT Eric M Hermanson (zmonster@ATHENA.MIT.EDU) wrote: : OpenStep includes the full NEXTSTEP GUI. Part of the OpenStep spec is that it : retains the same appearance and behavior as NEXTSTEP. : Here's specifically what the spec will include at the minimum (I may have : left something out here): : * DisplayPostscript : * Distributed Objects : * the AppKit : * Databasekit : * Objective-C Wouldn't it be possible to write an OpenStep implementation without using DPS? For instance, an implementation based on Pink's OS layers, with imaging done in Quickdraw GX (or whatever they use). As long as it follows the API, and does what is expected, shouldn't it work? -- Jonathan W. Hendry Inexpensive NeXTSTEP Consulting tjhendry@mcs.drexel.edu For Your "Not-So-Mission-Critcal" Apps
Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.programm,comp.sys.next.software From: person@plains.NoDak.edu (Brett Person) Subject: Re: OpenStep Sender: usenet@ns1.nodak.edu (Usenet login) Message-ID: <CH5Asy.87G7@ns1.nodak.edu> Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1993 10:07:45 GMT References: <CH4sJJ.3vrD@ns1.nodak.edu> <1993Nov27.043958.29563@kf8nh.wariat.org> <1993Nov27.044354.29651@kf8nh.wariat.org> Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network Thanks for clearring that up. The more I thought about Next giving up the copyright on Nextstep the sillier it seemed. I still maintain that Next is really in trouble, but thats a topic for another group :-) -- Brett Person North Dakota State University person@plains.nodak.edu || person@plains.bitnet
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: scott@corybant.rmnug.org (Scott Meyer) Subject: building gcc 2.5.4 Message-ID: <1993Nov26.235744.2147@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> Sender: scott@nugget.rmNUG.ORG Organization: Rocky Mountain NeXT Users' Group Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1993 23:57:44 GMT When building GCC 2.5.4 under NS 2.0, the stage1 or 2 compilers assembler output seems to annoy as. It generates the following complaints: /usr/tmp/cc002033.s:6624:Rest of line ignored. 1st junk character valued 44. /usr/tmp/cc002033.s:6626:Rest of line ignored. 1st junk character valued 44. /usr/tmp/cc002033.s:6628:Rest of line ignored. 1st junk character valued 44. which seem to relate to an unexpected second argument to the .lcomm directive. The macro to output this directive comes either from config/nextstep.h or config/m68k/next.h, I'm not sure which. Aside from generating assembler warnings, the extra argument seems to have no ill effect. Has anyone else seen this behavior? Better yet, do you know of a fix for it? Thanks in advance, -Scott -- Scott Meyer scott@corybant.rmNUG.ORG - NeXT mail is welcome.
Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.programm,comp.sys.next.software From: bsa@kf8nh.wariat.org (Brandon S. Allbery) Subject: Re: OpenStep References: <2ctds8$jch@skates.gsfc.nasa.gov> <CH4sJJ.3vrD@ns1.nodak.edu> Organization: Brandon's Linux box and AmPR node, Mentor, OH Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1993 04:39:58 GMT Message-ID: <1993Nov27.043958.29563@kf8nh.wariat.org> In article <CH4sJJ.3vrD@ns1.nodak.edu> person@plains.NoDak.edu (Brett Person) writes: >In article <2ctds8$jch@skates.gsfc.nasa.gov> cahalan@clouds.gsfc.nasa.gov (Robert F. Cahalan) writes: >>In June 1994 NeXT will release "OpenStep" to the public domain >>This will be a full and open version of their operating system >>interface, with the full object heirarchy, the Interface >>Builder, and the underlying messaging system. >> >>Also, how about a version of OpenStep for linux? > >They've gone from a good soft/hardware company to just a software company >and now they are giving the software away?? Nope. I have permission to post this, and it looks like I'd better before the rumors get TOO rampant... (This was in response to my first post on the subject, where because I suspected it really *wasn't* the code that was being released I posted several reasons why the claim didn't make sense.) =============================================================================== From: Ronald_Weissman@NeXT.COM (Ronald Weissman) Message-Id: <9311241750.AA05311@tinman.NeXT.COM> Date: Wed, 24 Nov 93 09:50:12 -0800 To: bsa@kf8nh.wariat.org (Brandon S. Allbery) Subject: Re: OpenStep Cc: rweissman@NeXT.COM Dear Mr. Allbery, I'd like to clear up a bit of confusion about OpenStep. We're not freely licensing our IMPLEMENTATION of our software; we're freely licensing the SPECIFICATION for the non-OS portions of NeXTSTEP. By the end of June, NeXT will release the OpenStep specification which will be freely available for use as will the OpenStep trademark. This is NOT the same thing as releasing NEXTSTEP. OpenStep is a specification, like the Red Book for Adobe Postscript. You still have do develop the code which meets the spec. NeXT is also licensing our implementation (code) of OpenStep to Sun for which we're being compensated. The spec and the implementation are two different things. As in the case of PostScript, vendors wanting to use it have the choice of taking the spec and building their own product (it cost us $100M to build NeXTSTEP) or to license an implementation from NeXT. Proliferating NEXTSTEP in this way is our strategy to become a large volume supplier of object-oriented software. Everytime we or Sun or any other partner sells a version of our implementation of OpenStep, this is a win, financially and market-wise for us. Does this clarify things? Ronald Weissman Director, Corporate Marketing NeXT =============================================================================== So, can we now forget that original mispost? It's fairly clear that all they're releasing is the specification --- much as COSE is doing. (It started with TrueType vs. PostScript... where will it end? :-) ---On the other hand, once it's released I could very well see a Linux or generic *ix free implementation of the specs being written by somebody... ++Brandon -- Brandon S. Allbery kf8nh@kf8nh.ampr.org bsa@kf8nh.wariat.org "MSDOS didn't get as bad as it is overnight -- it took over ten years of careful development." ---dmeggins@aix1.uottawa.ca
Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.programm,comp.sys.next.software From: bsa@kf8nh.wariat.org (Brandon S. Allbery) Subject: Re: OpenStep References: <2ctds8$jch@skates.gsfc.nasa.gov> <CH4sJJ.3vrD@ns1.nodak.edu> <1993Nov27.043958.29563@kf8nh.wariat.org> Organization: Brandon's Linux box and AmPR node, Mentor, OH Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1993 04:43:54 GMT Message-ID: <1993Nov27.044354.29651@kf8nh.wariat.org> In article <1993Nov27.043958.29563@kf8nh.wariat.org> bsa@kf8nh.wariat.org (Brandon S. Allbery) writes: (letter from NeXT's Director of Marketing explaining what's *really* going on) One more comment. In hindsight, it looks to me like the original poster saw both NeXT's announcement about releasing the *specifications* and Sun's announcement about their *implementation*, and either got them confused or jumped to conclusions. This may merely have been a problem with bad timing (e.g. they may have arrived at virtually the same time, thereby implying a nonexistent relationship). ++Brandon (since when am *I* the Rumor Control Hotline? :-) :-) -- Brandon S. Allbery kf8nh@kf8nh.ampr.org bsa@kf8nh.wariat.org "MSDOS didn't get as bad as it is overnight -- it took over ten years of careful development." ---dmeggins@aix1.uottawa.ca
From: perkins@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Steve Perkins) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: KERMIT for NS/FIP? Keywords: Kermit, NSFIP Message-ID: <Nov.27.09.41.17.1993.5560@andromeda.rutgers.edu> Date: 27 Nov 93 14:41:18 GMT Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J. Could someone compile a FAT or MAB binary of Kermit and place it on an archive site? I have only been able to find one for Motorola. Columbia put out new NeXT sources dated 29 Jun 93 on 30 Jun 93. The Kermit binary I found was dated in Feb 93 before the release of NS/FIP. TIA, Steven C. Perkins perkins@andromeda.rutgers.edu
From: rgc@wam.umd.edu (Ross Garrett Cutler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Anyone build gdb 4.11 on NS/I? Date: 27 Nov 1993 19:53:36 GMT Organization: University of Maryland, College Park Message-ID: <2d8b80$akd@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> Anyone build GNU gdb 4.11 on NS/I 3.1? I'm trying to do so, but it fails to build the file "bfd/trad-core.c". I'm using gcc 2.5.4 (I've also tried NeXT's cc), and the configuration is i386-next-bsd. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Ross. -- Ross Cutler University of Maryland, College Park Internet: rgc@wam.umd.edu
From: theharv@csld.ucr.edu (Brian Harvey) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Do these work under 3.2? Date: 27 Nov 1993 21:02:31 GMT Organization: University of California, Riverside Message-ID: <2d8f97$ak4@galaxy.ucr.edu> Before I upgrade our lab of 30 NeXTs to 3.2, could somebody please verify for me that the following programs still work under NeXTSTEP 3.2 for black hardware: Improv WriteNow NewsGrazer Thanks! ----------------------------------------------------------------- Brian Harvey * theharv@csld.ucr.edu University of California, Riverside * brian@cs.ucr.edu C.S.L.D. System Administrator (NeXT Mail preferred everywhere!) -----------------------------------------------------------------
From: ernest@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu (Ernest Prabhakar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OpenStep and DPS ? Date: 27 Nov 1993 20:56:13 GMT Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena Distribution: world Message-ID: <2d8etd$914@gap.cco.caltech.edu> References: <1993Nov27.061940.26832@netnews.noc.drexel.edu> In article <1993Nov27.061940.26832@netnews.noc.drexel.edu> tjhendry@mcs.drexel.edu (Jonathan Hendry) writes: > Wouldn't it be possible to write an OpenStep implementation > without using DPS? For instance, an implementation based on Pink's > OS layers, with imaging done in Quickdraw GX (or whatever they > use). As long as it follows the API, and does what is expected, > shouldn't it work? I think the point is that the API -includes- PostScript constructs as part of its specification: i.e., pswraps, fonts, and window contexts (not to mention PS and DPS function calls) can all be used by OpenStep programs. Of course that just means the Display PostScript 'spec' is part of the API, and the implementation can vary. However, I do not think any of the other imaging models is capable of simulating Display PostScript (nor, for that matter, is GhostScript). I have no idea how much effort it would be to emulate all of DPS (fonts, contexts, coordinate transforms, etc.), but I suspect it is non-trivial enough that all commercial implementations will just license it from Adobe (if they haven't already). -- Ernie P. -- Ernest N. Prabhakar Caltech High Energy Physics Member, League for Programming Freedom (league@prep.ai.mit.edu) CaJUN President NeXTMail:ernest@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu "...and ourselves, your servants for Jesus sake." - II Cor 4:5b #import <std/disclaimer.h>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: chris@nice.usergroup.ethz.ch (Christian Limpach) Subject: Re: Emacs 19 under Co-Xist? Message-ID: <CH62oH.rC@arkin> Originator: chris@nice Sender: news@bernina.ethz.ch (USENET News System) Organization: welcome to nowhere... References: <2d62cn$29s@steffi.demon.co.uk> Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1993 20:09:52 GMT Robert Nicholson (robert@steffi.demon.co.uk) wrote: > Has anybody compiled the latest Emacs 19 that works with Co-Xist? (NS3.1) not Co-Xist, but MouseX... just configure and make... stripped binary... -rwxr-xr-t 2 root 1327104 Nov 16 22:31 emacs* the other files (the ones that go into /usr/local/lib/emacs) take around 15mb... christian
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mark@cyantic.com (Mark T. Dornfeld) Subject: Re: Downloading fonts to non-NeXT printers Organization: CYANTIC Systems Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1993 23:22:58 GMT Message-ID: <1993Nov27.232258.1529@cyantic.com> References: <1993Nov24.211545.23497@cyantic.com> <2d3nfd$s5i@transfer.stratus.com> In article <2d3nfd$s5i@transfer.stratus.com> dan@az.stratus.com writes: >Mark T. Dornfeld writes >> Is there a way to download non-resident fonts to non-Next PS printers. >> I thought I had seen something on about this a while back. > > >fontloader(1) UNIX Programmer's Manual fontloader(1) > >NAME > fontloader - Install typefaces in non-NeXT printer >SYNOPSIS > fontloader [ -p password ] typeface ... > Oops, I should have been clearer in my original post. I would like the fonts to be automatically downloaded with the print job. I'm quite tired of manually sending the fonts down each time I start up the printer. -- Mark T. Dornfeld, CYANTIC Systems Voice: (416) 234-9048 101 Subway Crescent Suite 2103 Facsimile: (416) 234-0477 Etobicoke, Ontario, M9B 6K4 CANADA Email: mark@cyantic.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: clark@bruce.nist.gov Subject: Problems with Mosaic under Xfe Message-ID: <CH6Cn3.8sp@dove.nist.gov> Sender: news@dove.nist.gov Organization: NIST Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1993 23:45:02 GMT I'm trying to run the Mosaic source obtained from cs.orst under Xfe v 2.3 on a color NeXT station OS 3.1. This is what happens (output follows below). I don't know anywhere near enough to diagnose the problem myself, and would be grateful for advice from anyone to whom the solution is obvious. Charles Clark National Institute of Standards and Technology Warning: Name: menubar Class: XmRowColumn Illegal mnemonic character; Could not convert X KEYSYM to a keycode Don't know how to format image for display of depth 16 Don't know how to format image for display of depth 16 Don't know how to format image for display of depth 16 Don't know how to format image for display of depth 16 Don't know how to format image for display of depth 16 Don't know how to format image for display of depth 16 (and so on . . .) Don't know how to format image for display of depth 16 Don't know how to format image for display of depth 16 Don't know how to format image for display of depth 16 Don't know how to format image for display of depth 16 X Error: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) Major Opcode: 14
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: verket@venice.sedd.trw.com (Paul Verket) Subject: Re: Downloading fonts to non-NeXT printers Message-ID: <1993Nov28.030630.469@venice.sedd.trw.com> Originator: verket@verket-home Sender: news@venice.sedd.trw.com (USENET News) Organization: TRW Systems Engineering & Development Division, Carson, CA References: <1993Nov27.232258.1529@cyantic.com> Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1993 03:06:30 GMT In article <1993Nov27.232258.1529@cyantic.com> mark@cyantic.com (Mark T. Dornfeld) writes: > In article <2d3nfd$s5i@transfer.stratus.com> dan@az.stratus.com writes: > >Mark T. Dornfeld writes > >> Is there a way to download non-resident fonts to non-Next PS printers. > >> I thought I had seen something on about this a while back. > > > > > >fontloader(1) UNIX Programmer's Manual fontloader(1) > > > >NAME > > fontloader - Install typefaces in non-NeXT printer > >SYNOPSIS > > fontloader [ -p password ] typeface ... > > > Oops, I should have been clearer in my original post. I would like the fonts > to be automatically downloaded with the print job. I'm quite tired of > manually sending the fonts down each time I start up the printer. 3.1 does this for you! If I send Tekton to my HP IIP Postscript printer, the Tekton font gets downloaded first. No thought, no pain. Paul Verket (NeXTmail ok)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: gary@nshade.uah.ualberta.ca (Gary Ritchie) Subject: Re: Problems with Mosaic under Xfe Message-ID: <1993Nov28.032943.9920@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada References: <CH6Cn3.8sp@dove.nist.gov> Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1993 03:29:43 GMT In article <CH6Cn3.8sp@dove.nist.gov> clark@bruce.nist.gov writes: > I'm trying to run the Mosaic source obtained from cs.orst under > Xfe v 2.3 on a color NeXT station OS 3.1. > > Don't know how to format image for display of depth 16 Mosaic is not a well behaved X program and doesn't like 16-bit colour X servers. It works with Cub'X in the 8-bit pseudocolor mode. I don't think Xfe has such a mode (although I have never actually looked). Also note that the Mosaic 2.0 binary currently on cs.orst.edu has a bug; it aborts if you try to open a local document. I'll repost a fixed binary. -- Gary Ritchie : NeXT Programmer Department of Medicine (Neurology) : University of Alberta Hospital gary@uaneuro.uah.ualberta.ca : NEXTMAIL Welcome (403) 492-8648
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: chris@iastate.edu (Chris Wong) Subject: Pages or PasteUp? Message-ID: <chris.754475015@vincent2.iastate.edu> Keywords: pages,pasteup,writeup,word,processor Sender: news@news.iastate.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1993 08:23:35 GMT I'd like to know if PasteUp is good enough for medium length document. Besides, how is Pages compared to PasteUp? Is Pages better? I'd like to hear both in price/performance and price/features. BTW, any academic offering? WriteUp bundle with PasteUp? Thanks for any info. Chris. -- Chris Wong | "Hardware is supposed to serve Software." chris@iastate.edu | Computer Engineering & Computer Science twba8@isuvax.iastate.edu | Iowa State University of Science and Technology
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Chris Bradley <cbradley@pandora.bozell.com> Subject: Re: NSI installation... Message-ID: <1993Nov28.054442.10810@bozell.com> Sender: news@bozell.com Organization: Bozell, Jacobs, Kenyon & Eckhardt, Inc. References: <2d3fvl$bgk@tunix.cubiculum.com> Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1993 05:44:42 GMT In article <2d3fvl$bgk@tunix.cubiculum.com> rcfa@cubiculum.com (Ronald C.F. Antony) writes: > I just got a new toy: a Gateway 2000 Handbook 486DX-2 40MHz, with a 120MB > HD. [...] > So here [sic] the question: Did anyone manage to install NSI without a > CD-ROM, by doing some strange thing with boot floppies, serial cable, > kermit etc.? If so any hints are welcome. [...] > Besides that, if nobody knows how to do that, I might have to take the > thing apart and stick the disk drive (IDE) into a "REAL" PC with NSI, and > then run Builddisk [sic] on it, then stick it back... This is precisely what you will have to do. Unless your notebook computer has a docking station available, and you have a supported SCSI adapter, _and_ the SCSI adapter in the docking station is recognized by the NS3.X kernel when booting from the NS boot floppy, then you must surgically extract the IDE hard-drive from the notebook, and build NEXTSTEP on it using a PC with both SCSI and IDE. It's not *impossible* to do -- just tedious. Keep track of all the tiny screws (there usually aren't any "extra parts" left in the by the manufacturer :-) ). When building NS/FIP 3.1 on notebooks by Texas Instruments, Aquiline, and Toshiba, we found that we had to purchase an adapter to allow us to use a 2.5" hard-drive in a 3.5" slot. This widget cost us about USD$40, and we've used it several times.
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Problems with Mosaic under Xfe Date: 28 Nov 1993 12:38:47 -0000 Organization: me organized? That's a joke! Message-ID: <2da64n$2ht@steffi.demon.co.uk> References: <CH6Cn3.8sp@dove.nist.gov> <1993Nov28.032943.9920@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> gary@nshade.uah.ualberta.ca (Gary Ritchie) wrote >Mosaic is not a well behaved X program and doesn't like 16-bit colour X >servers. It works with Cub'X in the 8-bit pseudocolor mode. I don't >think Xfe has such a mode (although I have never actually looked). Gary is right, I'm reliably informed that Mosaic 2.1 will be 16 bit aware though. So I won't have to run in 8 bit pseudo which is really slow. For now Mosaic 1.2 works fine in 16 bit but you lose the video features.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Douglas Moore Subject: Re: Do these work under 3.2? Message-ID: <CH7G3r.E37@news.cis.umn.edu> Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities References: <2d8f97$ak4@galaxy.ucr.edu> Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1993 13:54:20 GMT In article <2d8f97$ak4@galaxy.ucr.edu> theharv@csld.ucr.edu (Brian Harvey) writes: > Before I upgrade our lab of 30 NeXTs to 3.2, could somebody please verify > for me that the following programs still work under NeXTSTEP 3.2 for > black hardware: > > Improv > WriteNow > NewsGrazer > > Thanks! > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Brian Harvey * theharv@csld.ucr.edu > University of California, Riverside * brian@cs.ucr.edu > C.S.L.D. System Administrator (NeXT Mail preferred everywhere!) > ----------------------------------------------------------------- Yes -- Douglas Moore 1 GFLOP on the desktop or bust, 172 East Sixth Street #2106 for under $10^4 please. St Paul, MN 55101 (anybody want to donate a T1 line?) moor0002@gold.tc.umn.edu <---NeXTMail via SLIP, send me some!!!
From: don@b62178.student.CWRU.Edu (Donald J. Siegel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Thank You! Date: 28 Nov 1993 16:13:30 GMT Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA) Message-ID: <2daina$1mb@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> Thanks to all who helped me resolve the 600dpi problem w/ NeXTTeX!!!! Later, don...
From: blake015@mc.duke.edu (Denise Blakeley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: MAB version of AcChen? Message-ID: <24319@news.duke.edu> Date: 28 Nov 93 17:32:47 GMT References: <2d56o1$rjm@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> Sender: news@news.duke.edu Ross Garrett Cutler writes > Is there a MAB versino of AcChen available? This was one of the best games > on black hardware. Thanks, Ross. Yes, there is. We got ours on a floppy at the Expo last spring direct from the source. Denise -- Denise Blakeley | PROGRAM, tr. v., An activity similar Duke Med Center Info Systems | to banging one's head against a wall, Durham, NC | but with fewer opportunities for (919) 286-6468 W | reward. blake015@mc.duke.edu | NeXTMail welcome!
From: jhs3478@tamsun.tamu.edu (Jeff Stephens) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Looking for Appsoft's phone number... Date: 28 Nov 1993 13:49:57 -0600 Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station Distribution: usa Message-ID: <2davd5$872@tamsun.tamu.edu> I need to contact Appsoft for questions about Image. Does anyone have their phone number? Thanks, Jeff
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: chwe@chwe1.spc.uchicago.edu (Michael Suk-Young Chwe) Subject: Re: Nextmail & MIME Message-ID: <1993Nov28.213350.15851@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@uchinews.uchicago.edu (News System) Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Information Technologies References: <2d5f05$f98@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1993 21:33:50 GMT In article <2d5f05$f98@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> gregory@athena.mit.edu (Gregory B Howland) writes: > It is now possible to fax for free using email with MIME. > I found this article in the Washington Post last summer. > I have not been able to get it to work yet. If anyone is > succesful at it please post how you did it. I've never done it, but here is a excerpt from the FAQ on "The Experiment in Remote Printing." You can get the full FAQ by sending mail to tpc-faq@town.hall.org. -- Michael Suk-Young Chwe chwe@uchicago.edu (NeXTMail OK) __|__ | / _| ( ) Economics Department, University of Chicago / \ | /\__| __|_|__ 1126 E 59th Street, Chicago, IL 60637 USA __|__ | / ( ) Facsimile 312-702-8490 ------- =_aaaaaaaaaa1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Description: What is this experiment, anyway? The experiment is a project in outreach: to integrate the e-mail and facsimile communities. Working together, many sites cooperatively provide "remote printing" access to the international telephone network. This allows people to send faxes via e-mail. The general-purpose Internet e-mail infrastructure takes care of all the routing, delivering the message to the appropriate remote printer gateway in a manner totally transparent to the user. ------- =_aaaaaaaaaa1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Description: Outreach? What are you really doing? We believe that by providing easy access to remote printing recipients, enterprise-wide access is enhanced, regardless of kind of institution (e.g., commercial, educational, or government), or the size of institution (e.g., global, regional, or local). This approach to outreach allows an organization to make it easier for the "outside world" to communicate with personnel in the organization who are users of facsimile but not e-mail, such as the sales person, the university registrar, or the (elected) official. The ease in which the Internet mail infrastructure can be used to provide this facility is (yet) another example of the power of a general-purpose infrastructure. Of course, as the experiment progresses, some of the things we'll be studying are economic and policy models that deal with issues such as accounting and settlement. ------- =_aaaaaaaaaa1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Description: How can I keep informed? There's a mailing list. Send a note to tpc-rp-request@aarnet.edu.au
From: don@b62178.student.CWRU.Edu (Donald J. Siegel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: xv for NeXT? Date: 28 Nov 1993 22:30:19 GMT Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA) Message-ID: <2db8pr$hsl@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> Anyone successfully compiled xv for MouseX? If so, could you please NeXTMail me the binary? (The binary on cs.orst.edu seems to be corrupt...) Thanks, don...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.muc.de (Maximilian Goedel) Subject: Re: Looking for Appsoft's phone number... Message-ID: <CH82yv.FsH@muaddib.isar.muc.de> Sender: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.muc.de (Maximilian Goedel) Organization: Michael Maximilian Goedel References: <2davd5$872@tamsun.tamu.edu> Distribution: usa Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1993 22:11:19 GMT In article <2davd5$872@tamsun.tamu.edu> jhs3478@tamsun.tamu.edu (Jeff Stephens) writes: > I need to contact Appsoft for questions about Image. Does anyone have their > phone number? Thanks, Jeff > Yeah, Appsoft Inc. PO Box 51950 Palo Alto, CA 94303-9886 (415) 617-0595 (415) 321-9309 fax or call number 1-800-428-2777 or 1-415-617-0595 Nice Greetings from Munich - Germany -- Michael Maximilian Goedel _____________________ e-mail: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.muc.de Address: Gerhardstrasse 33 - 81543 Muenchen Telephone: +49 89 65 29 18
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jrhoads@netcom.com (Jason Rhoads) Subject: Transys PNI on NS/FIP Message-ID: <jrhoadsCH86nC.1wL@netcom.com> Organization: SandCastle Ltd. Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1993 23:30:48 GMT Has anyone tried TranSys PNI on an Intel box? I installed the software and set up my pni0.config file using the sample configuration file for a plain SLIP connection. When I tested my config file, the following message is posted to the Console: Nov 28 15:04:50 sandcastle pnid-pni0[260]: /etc/pni/pnid: no valid installed keyfile found. During installation when I was asked whether or not I wanted to replace the current keyfile, I selected No. Is there a problem with the demo license, or have I overlooked something? Thanks for your help! ================================================================= Jason R. Rhoads jrhoads@netcom.com SandCastle Consulting Ltd. 12017 Vose Street North Hollywood, CA 91605 (818) 707-0329 Fax (818) 765-2477 =================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: preuss@netcom.com (Peter Preuss) Subject: Re: MAB version of AcChen? Message-ID: <preussCH86sp.27B@netcom.com> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) References: <2d56o1$rjm@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1993 23:34:00 GMT Ross Garrett Cutler (rgc@wam.umd.edu) wrote: : Is there a MAB versino of AcChen available? This was one of the best games : on black hardware. Thanks, Ross. : -- : Ross Cutler : University of Maryland, College Park : Internet: rgc@wam.umd.edu I just got around posting the very latest version, 3.2 (compiled under 3.2) onto cs.orst.edu:/pub/next/submissions and ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen. Two files: -rw-rw-rw- 1 ftp 301 480 Nov 28 18:01 AcChen32.README -rw-rw-rw- 1 ftp 301 671744 Nov 28 18:01 AcChen32.tar The README: This is the latest release of AcChen, the find-the-matching-tile game appreciated by 43 people on this planet ;). It's color, it's FAT, and sports among other new features a LevelEditor allowing you to design your own Levels (no more complaints about being too tough and endangering your marriage, please!). Further $15 contributions, thoughts, and suggestions are welcome! Peter Preuss preuss@sutro.sfsu.edu 1883 43rd Avenue San Francisco, CA 94122 Peter. -- preuss@futon.sfsu.edu San Francisco State University
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,gnu.gcc.help From: tom@basil.icce.rug.nl (Tom R.Hageman) Subject: Re: building gcc 2.5.4 Message-ID: <CH88Mn.v3@basil.icce.rug.nl> Sender: tom@basil.icce.rug.nl (Tom R.Hageman) Organization: Farty Owls References: <1993Nov26.235744.2147@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1993 00:13:35 GMT In article <1993Nov26.235744.2147@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> scott@corybant.rmnug.org (Scott Meyer) writes: > > When building GCC 2.5.4 under NS 2.0, the stage1 or 2 compilers > assembler output seems to annoy as. It generates the following > complaints: > > /usr/tmp/cc002033.s:6624:Rest of line ignored. 1st junk character valued 44. > /usr/tmp/cc002033.s:6626:Rest of line ignored. 1st junk character valued 44. > /usr/tmp/cc002033.s:6628:Rest of line ignored. 1st junk character valued 44. > > which seem to relate to an unexpected second argument to the .lcomm > directive. The macro to output this directive comes either from > config/nextstep.h or config/m68k/next.h, I'm not sure which. Aside > from generating assembler warnings, the extra argument seems to have > no ill effect. > > Has anyone else seen this behavior? Better yet, do you know of > a fix for it? Thanks in advance, > > -Scott > -- > Scott Meyer > scott@corybant.rmNUG.ORG - NeXT mail is welcome. Yes. Gcc 2.5.x will not work out-of-the-box on pre-NS3.0, since it depends on new assembler directives introduced in NS3.0. I guess upgrading to NS3.x is not the answer you want;-( Maybe someone at FSF can dig up the configuration file for NS2.x (which hopefully they have lying around from an older gcc version) and send it to you. Or better yet, incorporate it in the gcc distribition as a separate config target (next2?), since there is obviously some demand for a gcc port that runs on NS2.x. Greetings, -- __/__/__/__/ Tom Hageman (tom@basil.icce.rug.nl) [NeXTMail accepted] __/ __/_/ __/__/__/ __/ _/_/ <space for quote intentionally left blank>
From: mycroft@colourbox.utexas.edu (Alex Currier) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: MAB version of AcChen? Date: 29 Nov 1993 04:16:44 GMT Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas Message-ID: <2dbt3c$g0n@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> References: <preussCH86sp.27B@netcom.com> In article <preussCH86sp.27B@netcom.com> preuss@netcom.com (Peter Preuss) writes: > This is the latest release of AcChen, the find-the-matching-tile game > appreciated by 43 people on this planet ;). Make that 44 people. I like the sounds, very nice. Is there a shareware fee? I'll send it in. -- ============================================================================== Alex Currier * mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu * NeXTmail capable!! 0000000700F6208F479D391F0D205D6F055500000007DB58CE6FCA79D9FB19BCD42807B6 ==============================================================================
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Transys PNI on NS/FIP Date: 29 Nov 1993 06:46:42 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL USA Message-ID: <2dc5si$s8f@news.acns.nwu.edu> References: <jrhoadsCH86nC.1wL@netcom.com> In article <jrhoadsCH86nC.1wL@netcom.com>, Jason Rhoads <jrhoads@netcom.com> wrote: >Has anyone tried TranSys PNI on an Intel box? I installed the software >and set up my pni0.config file using the sample configuration file for >a plain SLIP connection. When I tested my config file, the following >message is posted to the Console: > >Nov 28 15:04:50 sandcastle pnid-pni0[260]: /etc/pni/pnid: no valid installed keyfile found. > >During installation when I was asked whether or not I wanted to replace the >current keyfile, I selected No. Is there a problem with the demo license, or >have I overlooked something? > I've seen this too. I have not had time to work with it extensively however. -- Jerry S. Weiss j-weiss@nwu.edu Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois %SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
From: don@b62178.student.CWRU.Edu (Donald J. Siegel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Thanks for xv! Date: 29 Nov 1993 07:15:46 GMT Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA) Message-ID: <2dc7j2$c9h@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> Please do not send any further copies of xv. Thanks!!! don...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: pattern!leif (Leif Smith) Subject: Re: MAB version of AcChen? Message-ID: <1993Nov29.063045.1047@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> Keywords: next game acchen shareware Sender: leif@nugget.rmNUG.ORG Organization: Rocky Mountain NeXT Users' Group References: <2dbt3c$g0n@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1993 06:30:45 GMT In article <2dbt3c$g0n@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> mycroft@colourbox.utexas.edu (Alex Currier) writes: > In article <preussCH86sp.27B@netcom.com> preuss@netcom.com (Peter Preuss) > writes: > > > This is the latest release of AcChen, the find-the-matching-tile game > > appreciated by 43 people on this planet ;). > > Make that 44 people. I like the sounds, very nice. Is there a shareware fee? > I'll send it in. > Few games on NeXT so far, and AcChen is a good one (therapeutically maddening). Another $15 is on the way (with thanks). That's 45. --- Leif Smith, Denver CO leif@pattern.rmnug.org 303-778-0880 -- --- Leif Smith, Denver CO leif@pattern.rmnug.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Good wm for mouseX ? Message-ID: <1993Nov29.063804.56459@gmuvax> From: skahng@mason1.gmu.edu (Soonam Kahng) Date: 29 Nov 93 06:38:04 -0500 Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, USA Dear; I looking for a good Window Manager which runs with mouseX. Anybody successed to compile such as vtwm or tvwm(?) etc .. Please recommand me a good X Window manager on NeXT. (I dont' like twm :) <Soonam> George Mason University
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mikem@afs.com (Mike Matlack) Subject: FrameMaker on NS3.2 Message-ID: <1993Nov29.131324.1960@afs.com> Sender: mikem@afs.com Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1993 13:13:24 GMT Has anyone else had major problems running FrameMaker 3.0.1 on NS3.2? mikem -- Michael J. Matlack Anderson Financial Systems Mike_Matlack@afs.com (NeXTmail OK)
From: marcoxa@butsomi.cs.nyu.edu (Marco Antoniotti) Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.programm,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OpenStep Date: 29 Nov 1993 15:05:33 GMT Organization: Courant Institute of Mathematical Sciences Message-ID: <MARCOXA.93Nov29100534@butsomi.cs.nyu.edu> References: <CH4sJJ.3vrD@ns1.nodak.edu> <1993Nov27.043958.29563@kf8nh.wariat.org> <1993Nov27.044354.29651@kf8nh.wariat.org> <CH5Asy.87G7@ns1.nodak.edu> In-reply-to: person@plains.NoDak.edu's message of Sat, 27 Nov 1993 10:07:45 GMT Just a stupid question. You can reply by mail. NeXT is releasing the spec to their non-os part of NeXTStep. What about Motif? Is the spec released or it is still retained by OFS? Reply by email Thanks -- Marco Antoniotti ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Robotics Lab | room: 1219 - tel. #: (212) 998 3370 Courant Institute NYU | e-mail: marcoxa@cs.nyu.edu ...e` la semplicita` che e` difficile a farsi. ...it is simplicity that is difficult to make. B. Brecht
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (Michael Friendly) Subject: eXodus and mouseX X11R5 development files Message-ID: <CH9GFB.EuA@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca> Sender: news@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca (USENET News System) Organization: York University Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1993 15:59:34 GMT I have eXodus v4.0 (X11R4) on my machine. It does not seem to support color -- it ignores switches like -fg in all applications and it contains none of the X11 development package, so I am unable to compile new X apps. I'm considering switching to mouseX or installing the mouseX X11R5 development files, but they are huge and the installation is sufficiently complex that before I do, I wonder if someone can tell me (a) how well mouseX works and (b) am I likely to run into problems using the X11R5 file with X11R4 eXodus. thanks, -- Michael Friendly Internet: friendly@vm1.yorku.ca Psychology Department NeXTmail: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca York University 4700 Keele Street Toronto, ONT M3J 1P3 CANADA
From: wildi@urz.unibas.ch Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Project scheduling program Message-ID: <1993Nov29.163046.43327@urz.unibas.ch> Date: 29 Nov 93 16:30:46 MET Organization: University of Basel, Switzerland Hallo, I'd like to build up a 'time table' for a given project, which is built from subprojects. I know the dependencies, the duration and the earliest time point, when it will start. When everything is established, I want to know, when the whole project will be completed or parts of it. If I can display the dependencies, I'd be happy. Does such a program exist for the NeXT computer ? Thank you, Markus Wildi Markus Wildi Physik. Institut Klingelbergstr. 82 CH 4056 Basel
From: ray@mayo.edu (Ray Ghanbari) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Downloading fonts to non-NeXT printers Date: 29 Nov 1993 17:06:54 GMT Organization: Mayo Foundation Distribution: world Message-ID: <2dda7e$c0d@fermat.mayo.edu> References: <1993Nov27.232258.1529@cyantic.com> In article <1993Nov27.232258.1529@cyantic.com> mark@cyantic.com (Mark T. Dornfeld) writes: > > > Oops, I should have been clearer in my original post. I would like the fonts > to be automatically downloaded with the print job. I'm quite tired of > manually sending the fonts down each time I start up the printer. > > > -- > > Mark T. Dornfeld, CYANTIC Systems Voice: (416) 234-9048 > 101 Subway Crescent Suite 2103 Facsimile: (416) 234-0477 > Etobicoke, Ontario, M9B 6K4 CANADA Email: mark@cyantic.com Here is our printcap entry for our HP 4m (nidump printcap / ) ladm_hp4m: \ :mx#0:_nxfinalform:sf:sb:rm=nja013dd9:rp=TEXT:lp=: \ :ty=HP LaserJet 4 PostScript 600DPI: \ :note=HP 4M 600dpi printer in Gugg 711: \ :sd=/usr/spool/NeXT/ladm_hp4m:lo=lock:af=/usr/adm/lp.acct: \ :lf=/usr/adm/lpd-errs: The key item is _nxfinalform. This causes needed fonts to be automatically downloaded to the printer. This is documented in the 3.1 release notes somewhere. Note that this only works if the PS output of the app you are using properly declares DocumentFonts. The only app I've seen that does not do this is FrameMaker. For Frame, I have to manually edit the .ps file to add the appropriate %%DocumentFonts comment for the document. -- Ray Ghanbari Mayo Foundation ray@mayo.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: heinle@cmf.nrl.navy.mil (Glenn Heinle) Subject: Re: AFS client software Message-ID: <CH9M60.oM@ra.nrl.navy.mil> Sender: usenet@ra.nrl.navy.mil Organization: Naval Research Lab, Washington, DC References: <2d67fm$fgb@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1993 18:03:35 GMT In article <2d67fm$fgb@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu> > In article <2d64va$2ga@homer.cs.mcgill.ca> > >In article <QgwOtju00iV44FOuoR@andrew.cmu.edu>, > > >If you are referring to the Andrew File System, then yes. Contact > > > > To my knowledge Transarc has not updated their AFS client > >software for NeXT machines running 3.x. So, to run AFS, you need > > I've been running AFS on NS 3.0, 3.1 and 3.2. The only problem > that I have encountered is that I can't get a clean reboot; > other than that, it seems to work fine. I run AFS on black hardware running 3.x. The reboot problem is that the afsd is an unkillable process, so you never get a clean shutdown and you always need to fsck the disk. It looks like this is not fixed in AFS 3.3, and worse yet, I've heard rumors that AFS 3.3 will be the last version ported to NS. Glenn
From: doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu (Douglas Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Good wm for mouseX ? Date: 29 Nov 1993 19:47:30 GMT Organization: University of California, Santa Barbara Distribution: world Message-ID: <2ddjki$2pm@hub.ucsb.edu> References: <1993Nov29.063804.56459@gmuvax> In article <1993Nov29.063804.56459@gmuvax> writes: ] Dear; ] ] I looking for a good Window Manager which runs with mouseX. ] Anybody successed to compile such as vtwm or tvwm(?) etc .. ] Please recommand me a good X Window manager on NeXT. ] (I dont' like twm :) ] ] <Soonam> ] George Mason University Tvtwm comes with the Xnext (mouse X) distribution, and vtwm is so similar as to not be worth having as a separate copy. Have someone mail you tvtwm if it is not part of your distribution (did you erase it?). -- Douglas Scott | Senior Development Engineer Tel: (805) 893-8352 | Center for Computer Music Research and Composition Internet (NeXTMail ok): | Music Department <doug@ccmrc.ucsb.edu> | University of California, Santa Barbara
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: gary@uaneuro.uah.ualberta.ca (Gary Ritchie) Subject: Q: Cost of PDO Message-ID: <1993Nov29.203907.28931@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1993 20:39:07 GMT Has anyone heard any pricing on PDO for HP? Ballpark figures are all I need. Thanks. -- Gary Ritchie : NeXT Programmer Department of Medicine (Neurology) : University of Alberta Hospital gary@uaneuro.uah.ualberta.ca : NEXTMAIL Welcome (403) 492-8648
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: stiv@netcom.com (Stiv D. Ostenberg) Subject: Re: Anyone used SoftPC on 3.2 FIP yet? Message-ID: <stivCH9LBy.LHn@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) References: <1993Nov23.030805.17530@news.csuohio.edu> <1993Nov24.141707.399@corona.com> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1993 17:45:34 GMT pkron@corona.com (Peter Kron) writes: >From: cowboy@omega.csuohio.edu (Joe Rosenfeld)>> Hey can anyone report on how SoftPC running on a white >> 3.2 machine performs? >Yes, I received 3.2 last Friday and installed the SoftPC package. >Installation and startup are pretty basic. I have tried accessing UNIX >directories, floppies, and CD-ROM and all have worked, although I get >some odd complaints about the floppy drive occasionally. Still seems >to work though. >I'm disappointed somewhat in the speed though. (I have a DX2/50.) Even >DOS shell stuff in a window feels very sluggish. Full-screen is >better, more like what I'd expect from emulated DOS. But even >full-screen, Windows seems slow (gives a whole new meaning to >"dragging" the mouse). Cut/Copy are terrible--probably due to >preparing for paste into NEXTSTEP apps. I note that others claim it >"screams"...so see for yourself. >On the plus side, I copied Excel to a NEXTSTEP folder and mounted it >on SoftPC. It came up and ran without a hitch...opened my ugliest >spreadsheet and looks good. >--- >NeXTMail:Peter_Kron@corona.com >Corona Design, Inc. >P.O. Box 51022 >Seattle, WA 98115-1022 Try removing smartcopy from the Windows startup group. Put it in accessories and restart windows. Should speed it up a bit! :) -- Stiv Ostenberg stiv@netcom.netcom.com| Sable, Saltairwise, a Claighmore ---------------------------------------+ inverted Argent, a Rowan Branch Or Tech Support, Insignia Solutions | --<------ ------>-- ---------------------------------------+ Conner MacCiaran
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: clarance@nshade.uah.ualberta.ca (Clarance Howatt) Subject: Re: Project scheduling program Message-ID: <1993Nov29.235047.6115@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada References: <1993Nov29.163046.43327@urz.unibas.ch> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1993 23:50:47 GMT > I'd like to build up a 'time table' for a given project, which > is built from subprojects. I know the dependencies, the duration > and the earliest time point, when it will start. > When everything is established, I want to know, when the whole > project will be completed or parts of it. > If I can display the dependencies, I'd be happy. > Check out TaskMaster from Lighthouse. There is a demo on the archive -- ============================================================ Clarance Howatt Programmer, Information Systems \\\ /// University of Alberta Hospitals \\\ /\ /// WMC 2C2.21, 8440 - 112th Street, \\\ //\\ /// Edmonton, Alberta \\\///\\\///
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Pages or PasteUp? Date: 30 Nov 1993 00:59:49 GMT Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office Message-ID: <2de5u5$6am@news.mic.ucla.edu> References: <chris.754475015@vincent2.iastate.edu> PasteUp on NS/Intel currently is not good enough for anything. However, there is great hope that the new owners will make it a usable application. PasteUp truly shows a lot of promise, and once the annoying bugs will be solved, it'll be a great app. Pages hasn't shipped yet. /ivo Chris Wong (chris@iastate.edu) wrote: : I'd like to know if PasteUp is good enough for medium length document. : Besides, how is Pages compared to PasteUp? Is Pages better? : I'd like to hear both in price/performance and price/features. : BTW, any academic offering? : WriteUp bundle with PasteUp? : Thanks for any info. : Chris. : -- : Chris Wong | "Hardware is supposed to serve Software." : chris@iastate.edu | Computer Engineering & Computer Science : twba8@isuvax.iastate.edu | Iowa State University of Science and Technology -- Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu Asst Prof of Finance iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu AGSM at UCLA
From: spb@news.uoregon.edu (Steven Berry) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Anyone used SoftPC on 3.2 FIP yet? Date: 30 Nov 1993 01:00:05 GMT Organization: University of Oregon Message-ID: <2de5ul$srq@pith.uoregon.edu> References: <1993Nov23.030805.17530@news.csuohio.edu> <1993Nov24.141707.399@corona.com> <stivCH9LBy.LHn@netcom.com> Stiv D. Ostenberg (stiv@netcom.com) wrote: : pkron@corona.com (Peter Kron) writes: : >From: cowboy@omega.csuohio.edu (Joe Rosenfeld) : >> Hey can anyone report on how SoftPC running on a white : >> 3.2 machine performs? I've had it for a week, and while I'm not completely happy with it, I'm not completely dissappointed. I've grown used to Windows flying on my DX2/50, 20mb RAM, ATI VESA, and there just seems to be an annoying delay in SoftPC. Also, running Systat, my machine ground to a near halt trying to perform stepwise regressions. It behaved almost as if the co-processor was disabled. As for 3.2, I've had trouble mounting multi-partitioned DOS-formated hard drives. When re-initialized to NeXTSTEP, they mount fine. Any clues? Stevo
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: lbrahman@du.edu (LBS) Subject: Viewing PhotoCD Message-ID: <CHA432.9uE@du.edu> Followup-To: brahm@alembic.com Sender: news@du.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Q. Distribution: na Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1993 00:30:38 GMT Hello, Has anyone tried to view PhotoCD using NeXT CDROM with the app for PhotoCD in NS 3.1 Black? Is the NEC 3X CDROM supported already by 3.1 or 3.2? What I was going to do is rather than scanning images, I'd like to use PhotoCD and manipulate the file from there. Would this guarantee the colors to be perfectly adjusted (calibrated)? Any input greatly appreciated. ............. brahm
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mehta-anand@yale.edu Subject: weather.app Message-ID: <1993Nov30.011434.6284@news.yale.edu> Keywords: weather Sender: news@news.yale.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Yale University Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1993 01:14:34 GMT My version of Weather.app seems to have broken. It is version 1.0, and all attempts to get weather maps fail. Is there an easy fix for this, or can I get a newer version somewhere else (I didn't see it on the archives). Thanks, -Anand mehta-anand@yale.edu
From: rwkasten@leia.cc.emory.edu (Ryan W Kasten) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: mpeg player for NeXT? Message-ID: <5723@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu> Date: 30 Nov 93 04:24:32 GMT Sender: news@emory.edu Ok...this is the second time for this post, but I don't think it got thru the first time, so here goes... Does anybody out there know of an app(NeXT app) that will play mpegs? I have been scanning the net for such a thing, and can't seem to come up with anything...Any help would be appreciated. I am running a NeXT 2.0 with the 3.2 upgrade on the way (:yay!:). TIA- Ryan W. Kasten (Ned) email: rwkasten@vader.cc.emory.edu or: rwkaste@u1.cc.emory.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: flo@pezzi.freiburg.sub.org (Florian Wolpert) Subject: vt220 Message-ID: <CH8yJs.D2@pezzi.freiburg.sub.org> Organization: Flo & Co, a FreiNet site Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1993 09:33:27 GMT Hi, I'm in dire need of a VT220-Terminal emulation. Who knows any products ? Thanx - Flo.
From: slwdz@cc.usu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: SoftPC/Intel Questions... Message-ID: <1993Nov29.200839.4802@cc.usu.edu> Date: 29 Nov 93 20:08:39 MDT Organization: Utah State University I just received my 3.2 upgrade, and of course quickly loaded up SoftPC to see how it would perform on my Epson NX. I was surprised it ran as well as it does. It seems quite stable and pretty quick. Quick enough that I feel that I could use Word or Excel and not be jumping up and down in frustration. My one gripe is that it will only run windows in "standard" mode, not in "enhanced". Will it always be this way? I have a number of apps that need to run under enhanced...the most important one, a big in-house one. Is there any way, or benefit, to booting SoftPC off a DOS partition? How do we upgrade our old black versions to the new ones? Thanks, John Zollinger slwdz@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: fabien@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy) Subject: Re: Looking for Appsoft's phone number... Message-ID: <1993Nov29.201259.1321@free.fdn.org> Sender: news@free.fdn.org Organization: Fabien Roy Electronic Engineering (F.R.E.E.) - Paris, France. References: <2davd5$872@tamsun.tamu.edu> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1993 20:12:59 GMT In article <2davd5$872@tamsun.tamu.edu> jhs3478@tamsun.tamu.edu (Jeff Stephens) writes: > I need to contact Appsoft for questions about Image. Does anyone have their > phone number? Thanks, Jeff Or E-mail? --Fabien --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org (NextMails accepted) Fabien Roy Electronic Engineering 3 rue ANDRE DANJON, 75019 PARIS, France, Tel: 33 1 4040 0206 Fax: 33 1 4040 0641
From: mrb@earth.wustl.edu (Mike Bray) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Zipcode/CASS scrubber wanted Date: 30 Nov 1993 07:05:25 GMT Organization: Washington University, St. Louis MO Distribution: world Message-ID: <2derbl$93a@wuecl.wustl.edu> I'm looking for a NeXTStep application that will validate and correct postal addresses. There are commercial products like AcuZip for the Macintosh that access a US Postal Service CDROM containing valid US addresses, updated every 3 months. I want an object or server process that can be messaged from our in-house mission critical application to validate addresses as our users enter them, and to scrub addresses already in the database. Vendors, please call if you have a solution! Thanks, Mike Bray mrb@earth.wustl.edu 307-332-1279
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Quick Guide to the comp.sys.next.* newsgroups Date: 30 Nov 1993 00:24:04 -0500 Organization: Next Announcements Message-ID: <2deldk$h7t@digifix.digifix.com> The current menagerie: comp.sys.next.advocacy This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. comp.sys.next.announce Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) The NEXTSTEP FAQs are posted here monthly as well. This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. comp.sys.next.bugs A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well. comp.sys.next.hardware Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. comp.sys.next.marketplace NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. comp.sys.next.misc For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! comp.sys.next.programmer Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. The NEXTSTEP programmer FAQs are posted here. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. comp.sys.next.software This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. comp.sys.next.sysadmin Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. related Newsgroups comp.soft-sys.nextstep Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. comp.lang.objective-c Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. comp.object Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep-d next-advocacy-d next-announce-d next-bugs-d next-hardware-d next-marketplace-d next-misc-d next-programmer-d next-software-d next-sysadmin-d (For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to <digestif@antigone.com>). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's. To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying: SUB Listname YourName Example: SUB next-hardware-d John Doe -------------------------------------------------------------------- Written by: Eric P. Scott eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU Minor editing: Scott Anguish sanguish@digifix.com Additions from: Greg Anderson (Greg_Anderson@afs.com) and Michael Pizolato (Michael_Pizolato@afs.com)
From: mycroft@colourbox.utexas.edu (Alex Currier) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Trying out the new ac1.0 Date: 30 Nov 1993 07:39:17 GMT Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas Message-ID: <2detb5$7e8@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> I just snagged ac.1.0 from cs.orst.edu and I was wondering if anyone else has tried it and if they got the same results I got. Here's the deal. A little configuring and I got it to recognize my Zyxel modem just fine. It picks up on the fourth ring (as I set it) and plays the outgoing message (in German... more on that later) and then beeps. I speak a bit and hang up and it disconnects. I go to the New_Ones.snd directory and there is my sound. When I play it back though it has a little pop every second or so and is barely understandable. The hanging up the phone bit makes a horrible KERWHANK sound as well. Is this the best sound quality I can hope for or am I doing something wrong? I followed the directions and tried to change the outgoing sound. I picked up the phone, dialed a 2, hit the Data/Voice button twice and waited to hear the outgoing message. Nothing happened for a while and then the modem tried to make a data connection and then a fax connection. I hung up. What am I doing wrong? Also I couldn't get it to play back my messages if I dialed up and put in the password code. Aside from my problems this is a cool program. Some things I'd like to see would be ability to record an outgoing message using SoundEdit and convert it to the .zyxel format the program uses, mailing of new voice and fax messages to a specified user (since I'm the only user on this machine). Better sound quality and truncation of the hang up sound. Oh, also a NeXTSTEP interface with configuration. It will be nice to see where this app goes. -- ============================================================================== Alex Currier * mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu * NeXTmail capable!! 0000000700F6208F479D391F0D205D6F055500000007DB58CE6FCA79D9FB19BCD42807B6 ==============================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com Subject: Serial Technology (Re: a NeXT at home, with a modem.) Message-ID: <1993Nov30.045908.14738@hot.com> Keywords: SerialPortKit, SerialPortServer, Hot Technologies, modems Sender: robertl@hot.com Organization: Hot Technologies References: <CEDMAN.93Nov28220149@capitalist.princeton.edu> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1993 04:59:08 GMT Shameless plug to follow... Hot Technologies has a great set of products called SerialPortKit and SerialPortServer that do just this and more. The SerialPortKit is an Interface Builder palette that allows you to easily add serial communications to your custom application without any of the drawbacks of other solutions. In addition, the kit makes full use of Distributed Objects to talk to our SerialPortServer which allows you to seamlessly access and share serial ports on remote computers on a network even across the country! Share stock tickers, PBX systems, dial out modems, audio/video equipment and more... For more information, contact Hot Technologies (info@hot.com or + 1 617 252 0088. You can purchase these directly from us, through Paget Press (info@paget.com or + 1 206 448 0845) and Alembic Systems (info@alembic.com) In article <CEDMAN.93Nov28220149@capitalist.princeton.edu> cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes: > Others have answered most of your questions fairly accurately, so let > me just add a few points. > > In article <CH7oMn.InC@cc.umontreal.ca> kosmatoo@JSP.UMontreal.CA (Kosmatos Odisseas) writes: > C) write programs in C on the NeXT that can access the modem? > (for example, when the ring detect line on the modem, > which I hope the NeXT's have, is activated, can I easily > write a program to do so?) > > No, apart from a few special functions which are supported by ioctls > (man zs), this would be very difficult to do. On the other hand, I > can not think of many good reasons why you'd want to. Most > applications of modems are directly supported by the OS already, so > there should be no need to do anything as low level as that. > > D) If Xwindows is installed on the NeXT with the modem, can > one (although slowly because of slow 14.4K modem) run xwindows > programs elsewhere but use them locally at home using, > say, xremote, or whatever? > > If you run SLIP, you can use the standard methods for running X > applications remotely and displaying them locally (and vice versa). > With modern V32.bis/V42.bis modems the performance is actually > surprisingly good. xterms or emacs will run very smoothly. Graphics > intensive applications are of course an exception though even here you > may be surprised how usable X can be over a low bandwidth link. > > Using xremote instead of SLIP will significantly improve your X > performance, but you'll not any longer be directly on the net with all > the attendant benefits (rlogin, telnet, NNTP, mail and many more), so > unless you are going to be a very heavy X user I'd advise against it. > And even if you are, I'd suggest you give plain SLIP a try first. > > Basically, how well is a NeXT going to function with a high speed modem? > I mean, is this common? Or are all NeXT's on the internet and nobody > bothers to stick modems on them? > > Fairly common. Quite a few of the people on the net actually do use > SLIP with NeXTs and those who do are almost uniformly very happy with > it. But note, that I'm referring to 68040 (not i386, not 68030) > hardware only here. > > Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dimitri@dutiws.twi.tudelft.nl (Dimitri Tischenko) Subject: Re: mpeg player for NeXT? Message-ID: <CHAtGs.Dtt@dutiws.twi.tudelft.nl> Organization: Delft University of Technology References: <5723@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1993 09:38:51 GMT In article <5723@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu>, Ryan W Kasten <rwkasten@leia.cc.emory.edu> wrote: >Ok...this is the second time for this post, but I don't think it got thru >the first time, so here goes... > Does anybody out there know of an app(NeXT app) that will play >mpegs? cs.orst.edu:/pub/next/sources/graphics/MPEGPlay2.5.tar.Z Probably not for NS 2.0 though... Dimitri -- +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Dimitri Tischenko | D.B.Tischenko@TWI.TUDelft.NL | NeXTmail preferred! | +---------------------------------------+------------------------------------+ | Delft University of Technology | Technische Universiteit Delft | | Fac Applied Math & Computer Science | Fac. Techn. Wiskunde & Informatica | | The Netherlands | Nederland | +---------------------------------------+------------------------------------+
From: pom@anke.imsd.uni-mainz.DE (Prof. Dr. Klaus Pommerening) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NewsGrazer: Some groups dissappeared. Date: 30 Nov 1993 11:38:04 GMT Organization: Johannes Gutenberg-Universitaet Mainz, Germany Message-ID: <2dfbas$eet@bambi.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE> Since a few weeks some of the news groups I like don't appear in NewsGrazer's Browser anymore (alt.security, sci.math - I only see subgroups of them). How can I get them back? I tried NewsGrazer's menu: Group, Show all groups (and related menu options) - no effect. I also tried manually editing the newsrc file (I deleted article numbers for these groups) - no effect. Maybe the problem has to do with a reorganization of the nntp server? -- Klaus Pommerening Institut fuer Medizinische Statistik und Dokumentation der Johannes-Gutenberg-Universitaet D-55101 Mainz, Germany
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: hbu@wag.ch (Hans Burkard) Subject: Re: Project scheduling program Message-ID: <CHAwHD.1y3@wag.ch> Keywords: project,management,w-plan Sender: usenet@wag.ch Organization: workstation ag, Rohrstr. 36/38, CH-8152 Glattbrugg, Switzerland References: <1993Nov29.163046.43327@urz.unibas.ch> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1993 10:44:00 GMT In article <1993Nov29.163046.43327@urz.unibas.ch> wildi@urz.unibas.ch writes: > Hallo, > > I'd like to build up a 'time table' for a given project, which > is built from subprojects. I know the dependencies, the duration > and the earliest time point, when it will start. > When everything is established, I want to know, when the whole > project will be completed or parts of it. > If I can display the dependencies, I'd be happy. > > Does such a program exist for the NeXT computer ? > > Thank you, Markus Wildi Recently workstation ag has annouced a project management tool called W-Plan. For further information contact "info@wag.ch". Note there is also a demo version available. - Hans- +---------------------+---------------------------+ | workstation ag | voice: +41 1 828 95 55 | | Rohrstr. 36/38 | fax: +41 1 828 95 70 | | CH-8152 Glattbrugg | e-mail: info@wag.ch | | Switzerland | | +---------------------+---------------------------+
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: hbu@wag.ch (Hans Burkard) Subject: Re: vt220 Message-ID: <CHAwrz.1zp@wag.ch> Keywords: vt,vt220,vt320,emulator,emulation,terminal Sender: usenet@wag.ch Organization: workstation ag, Rohrstr. 36/38, CH-8152 Glattbrugg, Switzerland References: <CH8yJs.D2@pezzi.freiburg.sub.org> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1993 10:50:23 GMT In article <CH8yJs.D2@pezzi.freiburg.sub.org> flo@pezzi.freiburg.sub.org (Florian Wolpert) writes: > Hi, > > I'm in dire need of a VT220-Terminal emulation. Who knows any products ? > > Thanx - Flo. Recently our company has started to ship a terminal emulator family for NeXTStep and X11 based workstations. The family includes the following products: WE-D320 (DEC VT320 Emulation), WE-I3179 (IBM 3270 Emulation) and WE-UTS (Unisys UTS Emulation). Please contact "info@wag.ch" for further information. Note there is also a demo version available. - Hans - +---------------------+---------------------------+ | give your workstation the right connections... | | | | | workstation ag | voice: +41 1 828 95 55 | | Rohrstr. 36/38 | fax: +41 1 828 95 70 | | CH-8152 Glattbrugg | e-mail: info@wag.ch | | Switzerland | | +---------------------+---------------------------+
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: lloyd@world.std.com (Chris Lloyd) Subject: Re: vt220 Message-ID: <CHB784.1ID@world.std.com> Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA References: <CH8yJs.D2@pezzi.freiburg.sub.org> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1993 14:36:03 GMT In article <CH8yJs.D2@pezzi.freiburg.sub.org> flo@pezzi.freiburg.sub.org (Florian Wolpert) writes: >I'm in dire need of a VT220-Terminal emulation. Who knows any products ? Yrrid, Inc.'s terminal emulation and communications product `Cables' has full VT320/220, VT102, ANSI-PC and D211 emulation, among other things. Mail to info@yrrid.com -- :: Christopher Lloyd :: Yrrid Incorporated :: lloyd@world.std.com :: :: boy, don't we all look _smashing_ in red. ::
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: trebels@PROBLEM_WITH_INEWS_GATEWAY_FILE (Stephan Trebels) Subject: Re: strange noises from my pizzabox Message-ID: <FGNJBE7K@gwdu03.gwdg.de> Sender: news@gwdu03.gwdg.de (USENET News System) Organization: GWDG, Goettingen References: <1993Nov26.141113.17381@spider.research.ptt.nl> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1993 14:02:06 GMT Arnaud Leene (A.leene@research.ptt.nl) wrote: > Hi, > > I just got my NeXTstation and I am trying to work things out. I hear a > strange noise coming from the box each time as something changes on the > screen. Thus when I move a window, let a menu pop-up or something else it > it makes noise. I guess I am hearing my harddrive, but is not so loud as a > real disk-access. So my guess is that I have some swap problem. Hello everywhere, yes I do have the same problem. Every memory access seems to cause some noise. It's not loud and starts from the left part of the mainboard near to the power supply. It's definitly NOT the hard disk. (I tried it with open box without a fan to reduce the noise). I've also not been able to track it somewhere, also noone could ever tell me what was going on. It's really annoying to *hear* a modem connection bit by bit :-( It's also funny, to stop BackSpace.app because you don't want to hear it any longer, that's why I don't autostart BackSpace any more. My Hardware info: Turbo Mono 68040 slab NSfMP 3.1 (imported from the states) Perhaps the slab just screams when it's supposed to do anything ;-) Anyway, it doesn't degrade system performance and won't kill the slab (my experience). I posted the problem some time ago, people suggested hard disk (wrong) fan (wrong), power supply (possible), the simms (no, please), the red led on the main board (hmmmm), ... Any better suggestions anywhere? It happens exactly when the red led on the mainboard flashes, but leds normally don't cause any noise, correct? If anyone might know something, I would *really* appreciate an email message. If others experience the same problem, I'd also appreciate an email, to gather some statistics WHEN this happens (please send serial no of slab, cpu, speed, OS, if you have the time to open your slab also the serial no. of the power supply (best candidate so far)). Thanks, Stephan -- Stephan Trebels trebels@theo-phys.gwdg.d
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mikem@afs.com (Mike Matlack) Subject: FrameMaker on NS3.2...seems OK Message-ID: <1993Nov30.125429.2616@afs.com> Sender: mikem@afs.com References: <1993Nov29.131324.1960@afs.com> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1993 12:54:29 GMT Just to quell any fears... I have received 4 messages from people about this post...not one of them has had any problems with FrameMaker 3.0.1 on NS3.2. I'm going to reinstall the application again. mikem -- Michael J. Matlack Anderson Financial Systems Mike_Matlack@afs.com (NeXTmail OK)
From: wayne@unixg.ubc.ca (Wayne Henriques) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: On-Line Financial Information Options Date: 30 Nov 1993 16:24:50 GMT Organization: The University of British Columbia Message-ID: <2dfs4i$pb1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> Hello, I am interested in finding out what kind of GUIs have been developed for the various financial news feeds. If anyone has heard or seen of tools to use feeds such as STARQUOTE or BLOOMBERG on NS, please send a letter. Thanks, wayne I am already using NewsMan and MicrophonePro.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: mikes@ceco.ceco.com (Michael Stepniczka) Subject: Method browser for .m files (Methodist.app) Message-ID: <CHBCtC.2E0@ceco.ceco.com> Sender: root@ceco.ceco.com (Operator) Organization: Commonwealth Edison Co. Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1993 16:36:48 GMT Hi. I just put an application called Methodist onto cs.orst.edu in the /pub/next/submissions directory. The files are called Methodist_FAT.tar and Methodist_FAT.README. Just untar the .tar file and install the package. What does it do? You can open a directory, and all of the .m files will show up in a browser. Select a .m file, and its methods will show up in a second browser. Click on a method, and Edit.app will open it to the correct line. Multiple windows (for the same or different directories) are supported. I haven't seen the ability to do this in Project Builder, and it seemed like something that should be available. The Help in the program gives more information. I hope this program isn't redundant! Michael Stepniczka mikes@ceco.ceco.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) Subject: Re: mpeg player for NeXT? Message-ID: <1993Nov30.165641.9008@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: Stanford University References: <5723@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 93 16:56:41 GMT Ryan W Kasten writes > Ok...this is the second time for this post, but I don't think it > got thru the first time, so here goes... > Does anybody out there know of an app(NeXT app) that will > play mpegs? I have been scanning the net for such a > thing, and can't seem to come up with anything...Any help would > be appreciated. I am running a NeXT 2.0 with the 3.2 upgrade on > the way (:yay!:). Check the FAQ in alt.binaries.pictures.utilities. It lists a NS mpeg player. -- - Stefano Pagiola Food Research Institute, Stanford University spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged) spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) Subject: Re: weather.app Message-ID: <1993Nov30.165845.9170@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: Stanford University References: <1993Nov30.011434.6284@news.yale.edu> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 93 16:58:45 GMT mehta-anand@yale.edu writes > My version of Weather.app seems to have broken. It is version > 1.0, and all attempts to get weather maps fail. Is there an easy > fix for this, or can I get a newer version somewhere else (I > didn't see it on the archives). There's a newer version on the archives. -- - Stefano Pagiola Food Research Institute, Stanford University spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged) spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software From: daf@wts.com (David A. Fox) Subject: problem with new Adaptec SCSI controller Message-ID: <1993Nov30.103144.4378@wts.com> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1993 10:31:44 EST Organization: Wegmans Electronic Banking Services I am currently building a 486-DX2/66 with a micropolis 1gig SCSI drive. The SCSI controller I am using is the new Adaptec 1542CF Controller. The NextStep 3.1 Eval kit doesn't work properly with it. Supposedly 3.2 does work, even though Next does not officially support that Adaptech controller. Anybody know of a patch for 3.1? Thanks, Dave Fox ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Stupid people shouldn't breathe. Stupid people getting killed is just evolution in action. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wegmans doesn't agree with anything I say, nor do their views match mine.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org (Thomas Engel) Subject: TipTop ?? Were on earth is Pedja? Message-ID: <CH0F3E.64@shinto.nbg.sub.org> Sender: tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org (Thomas Engel) Organization: Molecule Modelling Lab. Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1993 18:52:24 GMT Hi! Just tried to get my registartion to Pedja for his nice TipTop app...but: were on earth can I reach him? His normal address (pedja%luka@umic...) failed four time written from two different locations (to test if its my mailers fault) Pedja are you on the net ? Does anybody know were to reach him? Please contact: tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org or felix@trinoid.nbg.sub.org Thank you Tom -- ____________________________________________________ (tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org) Thomas Engel Neptunstr. 9 NeXTMail welcome 90522 Oberasbach
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware From: nyse@nice (Hermann Behrens) Subject: Problems with non-standard fonts on a ps-printer Sender: news@nice.delme.north.de (news) Organization: nice Delmenhorst Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1993 02:10:39 GMT Message-ID: <nyse.754625439@nice> Hello World, I bought recently a Texas-Instruments PS-printer. Now I've the problem to print non-standard PS-Fonts(e.g. from the PD-Pool) on this printer. If I want to use them, I have to download them, right? But how can I do this automatically? I installed a programm called 'PrintFonts'(perl-script etc.) but this programm depends on a '%%DocumentFonts:' in the postscript-source and not every programm supports this Line. Is there a better way to inform a laser-printer of needed fonts? ciao, Hermann Behrens -- Hermann Behrens || 04221-73778 || nyse@nice.delme.north.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mehta-anand@yale.edu Subject: Re: weather.app Message-ID: <1993Nov30.185619.6451@news.yale.edu> Sender: news@news.yale.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Yale University References: <1993Nov30.165845.9170@leland.Stanford.EDU> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1993 18:56:19 GMT In article <1993Nov30.165845.9170@leland.Stanford.EDU> spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) writes: > mehta-anand@yale.edu writes > > My version of Weather.app seems to have broken. It is version > > 1.0, and all attempts to get weather maps fail. Is there an easy > > fix for this, or can I get a newer version somewhere else (I > > didn't see it on the archives). > > There's a newer version on the archives. For anyone who's interested, it's on cs.orst.edu in "/pub/next/sources/wide-area-info" Relevant filenames are: Weather-1.1-MAB.tar.gz Weather-1.1-SRC.tar.gz Thanks for all of the help -- I never knew so many people were interested in the weather :^) !!! -Anand -- ====================================================================== Anand Mehta mehta-anand@yale.edu 203-436-1482 Computing Assistant We dance round in a ring and suppose, But the Secret sits in the middle and knows. ======================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: caro@adobe.com (Perry A. Caro) Subject: Re: OpenStep and DPS ? Message-ID: <1993Nov30.193154.28929@adobe.com> Sender: caro@mv.us.adobe.com Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated References: <1993Nov27.061940.26832@netnews.noc.drexel.edu> <2d8etd$914@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1993 19:31:54 GMT In article <2d8etd$914@gap.cco.caltech.edu> ernest@cco.caltech.edu (Ernest Prabhakar) writes: >I think the point is that the API -includes- PostScript constructs as >part of its specification: i.e., pswraps, fonts, and window contexts >(not to mention PS and DPS function calls) can all be used by OpenStep >programs. The devil will be in the details, but I think Ernest is right about the DPS part. I suppose it would be possible to divorce NEXTSTEP from DPS at the API level, but if you're going to do that, you might as well rewrite NEXTSTEP from scratch. It would probably be less work to write a DPS clone. It remains to be seen just how hard porting from NEXTSTEP 3.X to OpenStep is going to be. The "operating system independent portions of the API" is practically meaningless in a world where most people consider "fopen" and "bcopy" to be part of the OS! Here's my guess at what the OpenStep API will be: All of /usr/include (particularly appkit, dbkit, dpsclient, and objc), except that bsd/* and mach*/* are replaced by equivalents in POSIX.1 or SVID or CDE or DCE. For example, I'd expect all the stdio.h/stdc.h stuff to come from POSIX.1, the RPC stuff to come from DCE, the network stuff to come from SVID, etc. Ports and messaging will probably be abstracted, or omitted entirely in favor of using the higher level abstraction of DO and PDO. cthreads could be replaced by pthreads, or could become a higher level abstraction. In terms of user level features, I'd expect NEXTIME and RenderMan to be omitted, but everything else that we know and love should be there. It's possible that NeXT will do something similar to Microsoft's Win32, Win32s, and Win32c. That is, NEXTSTEP 3.2 (Win32) is the superset API, in which there already exists an OS-independent subset (Win32s) which will form the basis for OpenStep. NEXTSTEP 3.3 (Win32(Win32c)) will add some abstractions so that programs targeted for OpenStep will compile and run on both flavors. I wonder if they'll do an ABI as well, so that native SPARC NEXTSTEP 3.2++ will just run on SPARC OpenStep, and vice versa. If OpenStep is to run on Solaris, this probably won't happen (MAB ELF? Shudder.:-) Perry -- caro@mv.us.adobe.com ...!{sun}!adobe!caro Contents: my opinions, no others
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: wissner@perlis.mcs.gvsu.edu (Jim Wissner) Subject: new softpc and dpmi problems Message-ID: <1993Nov30.202429.29144@beech.csis.gvsu.edu> Sender: news@beech.csis.gvsu.edu Organization: Grand Valley State University, Allendale MI Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1993 20:24:29 GMT Has anyone per chance tried to load up borland c on the new softpc? I was able to load it fine, but it complains about some dpmi problem. (I've just loaded the dos environment, not the windows part of it) I tried configuring it according to what I thought it wanted, but nothing seemed to work. It doesn't help that I don't know much about dos guts... Anyway, if anyone knows of a catch to get this to work, it would be great. jim.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: cowboy@omega.csuohio.edu (Joe Rosenfeld) Subject: Need zmodem (sz rz) for NS 3.2 FIP Message-ID: <1993Nov30.213343.18632@news.csuohio.edu> Sender: news@news.csuohio.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Cleveland State University Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1993 21:33:43 GMT Greetings: I have been compiling up a storm for NS 3.2 FIP, but one program that goes nowhere is any zmodem I have tried. I cannot live without sz and rz, alas, :-). Can anyone provide sources that will compile, the diffs, or even ftp me the Intel or FAT binaries to trans.csuohio.edu and place it into /incoming? I would be most grateful! Please send NeXTMAIL to j.rosenfeld@csuohio.edu, if you go this route, and not the omega address. Thanks so much (in advance) Joe -- | Joe Rosenfeld j.rosenfeld@csuohio.edu | Automation Librarian (216) 687-6881 [FAX] | CSU Law Library trans.csuohio.edu [ANON FTP] | NeXTMail and MIME ok
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: brill@sybase.com (Michael Brill) Subject: Accessing DOS partition from NEXTSTEP Message-ID: <CHBH46.G53@sybase.com> Sender: usenet@sybase.com Organization: Sybase, Inc. Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1993 18:09:42 GMT Is it possible to access a DOS FAT partition on my hard disk while in NEXTSTEP? I remember reading about this, but didn't find any mention of it in the documentation. Thanks, ...Michael
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software From: jamison@metropolis.com (John Jamison) Subject: UUCPD (uucp over tcp/ip) setup question Message-ID: <CHBo9G.Av8@metropolis.com> Organization: Metropolis Software, Inc. Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1993 20:44:04 GMT I have a Sun and a Next on an ethernet network. I'm trying to get uucp working between them using the uucpd (tcp/ip uucp listener). I am pretty sure that the configuration files are set up correctly, but clearly something is missing. The link only works when initiated from the Next side. When I initiate from the Sun side I get the following: (Sun is "eclipse", Next is "metrop") ------------------------------------- eclipse# Uutry metrop ./uucico -r1 -smetrop -x5 >/tmp/metrop 2>&1& tmp=/tmp/metrop mchFind called (metrop) conn(metrop) Device Type TCP wanted Internal caller type TCP tcpdial host metrop, port 540 connect failed: Connection refused Internal caller type TCP tcpdial host metrop, port 540 connect failed: Connection refused getto ret -1 Call Failed: NO DEVICES AVAILABLE exit code 101 Conversation Complete: Status FAILED My inclination is that there is something not set up correctly on the Next to allow the uucpd daemon to let incoming connections happen. I have tried reading the FMs but the documentation on uucpd is sparse. I would be grateful for any help someone can offer! Cheers, John Jamison jamison@metropolis.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mrothste@keiko.acs.calpoly.edu (Rothstein) Subject: Re: Anyone used SoftPC on 3.2 FIP yet? Message-ID: <1993Nov30.230758.199296@zeus.aix.calpoly.edu> Sender: news@zeus.calpoly.edu Organization: Cal Poly State University, San Luis Obispo References: <1993Nov23.145923.2855@xexos.com> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1993 23:07:58 GMT In article <1993Nov23.145923.2855@xexos.com> mark@xexos.com (Mark Chamberlain) writes: > In article <1993Nov23.030805.17530@news.csuohio.edu> cowboy@omega.csuohio.edu > (Joe Rosenfeld) writes: > > Hey can anyone report on how SoftPC running on a white 3.2 machine > > performs? I am curious about speed, clarity of graphics, how the DOS > > tcp/ip works, and how the Novell NetWare connectivity is. > > > > Please go easy on the MessyDOS comments :-) I don't much like it > > meself. > > Its surprisingly good. Netware connectivity actually works, speed and graphics > are as more than useable. Haven't done any intensive testing on it yet, but a > lot better than I thought it would be. > > -- > Mark Chamberlain +44 71 237 4535 > Xexos Ltd fax +44 71 231 0844 > London mark@xexos.com How is SoftPC 3.2 with things that mess with the hardware (games, etc..). -Mont NeXTmail OK :-) mrothste@data.acs.calpoly.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mrothste@keiko.acs.calpoly.edu (Rothstein) Subject: Re: Q: Cost of PDO Message-ID: <1993Nov30.231544.102331@zeus.aix.calpoly.edu> Sender: news@zeus.calpoly.edu Organization: Cal Poly State University, San Luis Obispo References: <1993Nov29.203907.28931@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1993 23:15:44 GMT In article <1993Nov29.203907.28931@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> gary@uaneuro.uah.ualberta.ca (Gary Ritchie) writes: > Has anyone heard any pricing on PDO for HP? Ballpark figures are all I > need. Thanks. > > -- > Gary Ritchie : NeXT Programmer > Department of Medicine (Neurology) : University of Alberta Hospital > gary@uaneuro.uah.ualberta.ca : NEXTMAIL Welcome > (403) 492-8648 I sort of thought it would be part of NEXTSTEP Developer. You should would just have an option in PB to compile an object on HP-UX, or Solaris, or whatever. I guess they could sell it as an addon (sp?), I just never thought about it. -Mont NeXTmail OK :-) mrothste@data.acs.calpoly.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Beta Testers wanted for Sat Tracking / Space Surveillance program Message-ID: <1993Nov30.141510.4893@cc.usu.edu> From: hcole@tumbleweed.nrcabq.com (Howard R. Cole) Date: 30 Nov 93 14:15:09 MDT Distribution: usa What with the shuttle going up tomorrow, I thought this would be a good time to have some people beta test "Rendezvous", a satellite tracking / space surveillance tool I have developed. I'd like to restrict the beta to people with some previous experience/knowlege of tracking - preferably people at the level that they at least know what a two line element set is. I'd also like to get a good mix of system configurations. So send all inquiries along with a description of the system you'll be testing on to the address below. Thanks for your support. Howard -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Howard Cole | Nichols Research Corp. | hcole@tumbleweed.nrcabq.com 2201 Buena Vista SE | Suite 203 | "Leaders on the trailing Albuquerque, NM 87106 | edge of technology" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: gfin@cyber.psych.ualberta.ca (Gary Finley) Subject: Re: new softpc and dpmi problems Message-ID: <1993Nov30.230907.25407@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada References: <1993Nov30.202429.29144@beech.csis.gvsu.edu> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1993 23:09:07 GMT Jim Wissner writes > > > Has anyone per chance tried to load up borland c on the new softpc? > I was able to load it fine, but it complains about some dpmi problem. Borland products give this very uninformative message when they really mean "Not enough conventional (ie first 640k) memory", or when they can't find any extended memory (above the 1MB boundary) available for swapping. If SoftPC only emulates Windows in "Standard" mode, BC++ may not think there's enough memory available to it. I'd check the SoftPC configuration to see if you can allocate more RAM to be used as extended RAM by Windows apps. -------------------------------------------- Gary Finley, Univ of Alberta Psychology Dept. gfin@psych.ualberta.ca (NeXTmail welcome!)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: gtoews@fulford.UVic.CA (Greg Toews) Subject: Lost Some Apps during Upgrade, Need Someone with 2.X Message-ID: <1993Dec1.001115.27606@sol.UVic.CA> Sender: news@sol.UVic.CA Organization: University of Victoria Date: Wed, 1 Dec 93 00:11:15 GMT I just upgraded from 2.2 to 3.2 and I used the method of initializing the hard drive and starting from scratch. I saved many apps that I knew were not included in 3.X (WriteNow etc.) but I didn't get all of them. I saved the following (some don't work with 3.X) WriteNow(original) and WriteNow(demo) Icon and Scene and Others I didn't save Date ScorePlayer (plus all of the sound files and other stuff) ForYourEyesOnly If someone still has 2.X running could you send me these apps via NeXTMAIL. Thanks.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: gtoews@fulford.UVic.CA (Greg Toews) Subject: Can't Put Kermit on the DOCK in 3.2 Message-ID: <1993Dec1.001354.27755@sol.UVic.CA> Sender: news@sol.UVic.CA Organization: University of Victoria Date: Wed, 1 Dec 93 00:13:54 GMT I'm pretty sure I could put Kermit on the DOCK in 2.2 but it won't form a box and stay there in 3.2. BTW Kermit is one of those terminal/unix apps, not a NS app. Greg
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: cowboy@omega.csuohio.edu (Joe Rosenfeld) Subject: Re: Need zmodem (sz rz) for NS 3.2 FIP Message-ID: <1993Dec1.011637.26259@news.csuohio.edu> Sender: news@news.csuohio.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Cleveland State University References: <1993Nov30.213343.18632@news.csuohio.edu> Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1993 01:16:37 GMT Joe Rosenfeld (cowboy@omega.csuohio.edu) wrote: : Greetings: I have been compiling up a storm for NS 3.2 FIP, but one : program that goes nowhere is any zmodem I have tried. : I cannot live without sz and rz, alas, :-). Ahhh ... I found it ... and right on cs.orst.edu:/pub/next/submissions as a FAT binary and the source, which compiles fine. Sorry to waste the bandwidth :-) Cowboy
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: leej@sys9.cs.jmu.edu (jiyub lee ) Subject: SLIP for NS/FIP Message-ID: <CHC3qB.15w@hub.cs.jmu.edu> Summary: Searching for SLIP server for NS/FIP Keywords: SLIP Sender: newsusr@hub.cs.jmu.edu (USENET News System) Organization: James Madison University Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1993 02:18:09 GMT Is there a SLIP server for NS/FIP? I have SLIP_920904, but it's for black hardware. If anyone knows about SLIP connection between pc running NS/FIP 3.x & Macintosh, please email me about the SLIP server. Help appreciated, Jiyub leej@sunrise.cs.jmu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mark@xexos.com (Mark Chamberlain) Subject: Re: vt220 Message-ID: <1993Nov30.221152.1398@xexos.com> Sender: news@xexos.com Organization: Xexos, Ltd (London) References: <CH8yJs.D2@pezzi.freiburg.sub.org> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1993 22:11:52 GMT In article <CH8yJs.D2@pezzi.freiburg.sub.org> flo@pezzi.freiburg.sub.org (Florian Wolpert) writes: > Hi, > > I'm in dire need of a VT220-Terminal emulation. Who knows any products ? > > Thanx - Flo. As two such suppliers have already replied, I'll try to give an impartial view. We looked around a lot for a really good vt220 emulation for a client recently, that had tough requirements for the quality of the emulation. Cables from Yyrid was the best. yyrid@world.std.com. -- Mark Chamberlain +44 71 237 4535 Xexos Ltd fax +44 71 231 0844 London mark@xexos.com
From: rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us (Bob Peirce #305) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NS3.2 - when? Message-ID: <1993Nov30.202336.1139@investor.pgh.pa.us> Date: 30 Nov 93 20:23:36 GMT Distribution: usa Organization: Cookson, Peirce & Co., Pittsburgh, PA The Developer's portion of NS3.2 arrived last week, but I haven't seen the upgrade yet. Is this normal or should I call someone? This is just the opposite of NS3.1 where the upgrade came first and the developer part was a couple of weeks later. -- Bob Peirce, Pittsburgh, PA rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us 412-471-5320 venetia@investor.pgh.pa.us [NeXT Mail] !uunet.uu.net!pitt!investor!rbp [UUCP]
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: UUCPD (uucp over tcp/ip) setup question Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1993 22:35:18 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Chemistry, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <8gz13qi00iV4EEV2gW@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <CHBo9G.Av8@metropolis.com> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 30-Nov-93 UUCPD (uucp over tcp/ip) se.. by John Jamison@metropolis.com > I have a Sun and a Next on an ethernet network. I'm trying to get uucp > working between them using the uucpd (tcp/ip uucp listener). I am pretty > sure that the configuration files are set up correctly, but clearly > something is missing. > [..munch..] Make sure that you have a line like: uucp 540/tcp uucpd # uucp daemon in NetInfo. Check via "nidump services ." on the NeXT. Secondly, you want to uncomment the second line in /etc/inetd.conf: # Run as user "uucp" if you don't want uucpd's wtmp entries. #uucp stream tcp nowait root /usr/etc/uucpd uucpd This will tell the inetd how to respond to a connection on socket 540/tcp. Question: what are you trying to do with uucp? Why not use NFS? -Chuck Charles William Swiger -- CMU...*splat*! | 1. You can't fly. --------------------------------------------+ 2. Cars are always real, even AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | when they're not. Failing that: cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu | 3. Police are not your friends. NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | 4. Fire burns.
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Transys PNI on NS/FIP Date: 30 Nov 1993 11:33:42 +0100 Organization: Palumbian Research Labs Message-ID: <2df7i6$1id@marsu.tynet.sub.org> References: <jrhoadsCH86nC.1wL@netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit jrhoads@netcom.com (Jason Rhoads) writes: >Has anyone tried TranSys PNI on an Intel box? I installed the software >and set up my pni0.config file using the sample configuration file for >a plain SLIP connection. When I tested my config file, the following >message is posted to the Console: >Nov 28 15:04:50 sandcastle pnid-pni0[260]: /etc/pni/pnid: no valid installed keyfile found. >During installation when I was asked whether or not I wanted to replace the >current keyfile, I selected No. Is there a problem with the demo license, or >have I overlooked something? I noticed exactly the same. A mail to L.A. Mamakos was answered within 24 hours, and his reply informed me about a new beta release (1.6) on ftp.uu.net (/tmp/TransSys-PNI-1.6-beta.tar.gz), fixing all these Intel-only bugs. Regards, Markus. -- Marsu: "Es gibt tatsaechlich Leute, die ohne Computer gluecklich und zufrieden leben." -- Frankie: "Ach was, die emulieren das doch nur!" ----- Markus Wenzel System administration, Consulting, Networking mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org on... NeXTSTEP / Unix / Novell / Windows NT IRC: Marsu Intel aside.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mark@xexos.com (Mark Chamberlain) Subject: Re: On-Line Financial Information Options Message-ID: <1993Dec1.002741.1846@xexos.com> Sender: news@xexos.com Organization: Xexos, Ltd (London) References: <2dfs4i$pb1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1993 00:27:41 GMT In article <2dfs4i$pb1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> wayne@unixg.ubc.ca (Wayne Henriques) writes: > Hello, > > I am interested in finding out what kind of GUIs have been developed for > the various financial news feeds. 3 products, couple of other options. 1. Hutchinson Avenue Software. They have an interface to Dow Jones News Retrieval. Looks nice. 2. FIST by Kapiti. Full data feed distribution system, but expensive, not particularly NEXTSTEP like or well supported. Hideously expensive. Supports feeds by Reuters, Telerate, KR and a few others. 3. Alice by Xexos. Has more real sites than anyone else, good value for money, brilliant toolkit, and errm, I'm biased :-). Supports feeds by Reuters, KR and a few others. Provides whole kits that do neat stuff like derivatives. Both Reuters and Teknekron can provide C libraries that interface to their distribution system. Reuters have one man who does some really cool stuff with their system and NEXTSTEP, but very little of it sees the light of day. If you buy their system, you have to write your own apps. -- Mark Chamberlain +44 71 237 4535 Xexos Ltd fax +44 71 231 0844 London mark@xexos.com
From: Arlie Davis <aldavi00@mik.uky.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Good wm for mouseX ? Date: 1 Dec 1993 05:42:34 GMT Organization: University of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences Message-ID: <2dhasa$5u7@s.ms.uky.edu> References: <1993Nov29.063804.56459@gmuvax> writes > Dear; > > I looking for a good Window Manager which runs with mouseX. > Anybody successed to compile such as vtwm or tvwm(?) etc .. > Please recommand me a good X Window manager on NeXT. > (I dont' like twm :) > > <Soonam> > George Mason University Try fvwm. It's a minimal window manager, long-ago derived from twm. It is very sparse on features, but is optimized to use as little swap space as possible, and to run fast. Visually, it has simple 3D window title/borders. It optionally supports shaped windows (maybe icons, too), and multicolor (via optional Xpm support) icons. It is used a lot in the Linux community. Try it. Anonymous FTP: sunsite.unc.edu:/pub/Linux/X11/window-managers/fvwm-???, or something close to that. It is also on tsx-11.mit.edu:/pub/linux/... .
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: wwright@shell.portal.com (Bradly William Wright) Subject: DOOM for NeXT is one AWESOME GAME!!!!! Message-ID: <CHCHq2.BHH@unix.portal.com> Summary: DOOM is an increadible game Sender: news@unix.portal.com Organization: Portal Communications Company Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1993 07:20:24 GMT I just downloaded DOOM! from cs.orst.edu, and it is absolutely great. I just thought I'd post some initial feedback to the net, and give many many thanks to ID Software for releasing this beta. DOOM is very gruesome and very cool! It's a shoot-em up game similiar to ID's Castle Wolfenstien. It's the best game I've ever seen running on a NeXT. Way to go John Carmack!!!! Brad Wright wwright@shell.portal.com wwright@premisys.com
From: alfred@ca-risc.co.at Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: From Frame to Pages Date: 1 Dec 1993 09:12:14 GMT Organization: EUnet EDV-Dienstleistungsgesellschaft m.b.H Message-ID: <2dhn5e$5ou@hp4at.eunet.co.at> Shall I switch from Frame Maker to PAGES? I am using Frame Maker to a great extend and now my software distributor tells me, I should consider PAGES. Any experience? Alfred -- ================================ Alfred H. Corrodi "Capitalism is based on the assumption Risk Manager that you can win the game. Communism Creditanstalt-Bankverein is based on the assumption that you can alfred@ca-risc.co.at (NeXT) break even. Mysticism is based on the Tel/43/1/531311967 Fax/5337341 assumption that you can leave the game."
From: jamastro@indyvax.iupui.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Is 3.2 black out? Message-ID: <1993Dec1.083439.2752@ivax> Date: 1 Dec 93 08:34:39 -0500 I've noticed several posts about 3.2 for Intel hardware and even one or two for black hardware. Is 3.2 for black hardware shipping yet? I should recieve a free upgrade to 3.2 and haven't heard a word from NeXT. Do I still have to call and pester NeXT to get my free upgrade? Any help appreciated.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.muc.de (Maximilian Goedel) Subject: Re: Looking for Appsoft's phone number... Message-ID: <CHBMJv.I5M@muaddib.isar.muc.de> Sender: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.muc.de (Maximilian Goedel) Organization: Michael Maximilian Goedel References: <1993Nov29.201259.1321@free.fdn.org> Distribution: all Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1993 20:07:07 GMT In article <1993Nov29.201259.1321@free.fdn.org> fabien@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy) writes: > In article <2davd5$872@tamsun.tamu.edu> jhs3478@tamsun.tamu.edu (Jeff > Stephens) writes: > > I need to contact Appsoft for questions about Image. Does anyone have > their > > phone number? Thanks, Jeff > > Or E-mail? > > --Fabien > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org (NextMails accepted) > Fabien Roy Electronic Engineering > 3 rue ANDRE DANJON, 75019 PARIS, France, > Tel: 33 1 4040 0206 Fax: 33 1 4040 0641 Yeah, Appsoft Incorporated 28 Laburnum Road Atherton, CA 94027 (415) 802 - 2900 (415) 321 - 9309 (fax) or call 1-800-428-2777 Nice Greetings from Munich - Germany -- Michael Maximilian Goedel _____________________ e-mail: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.muc.de Address: Gerhardstrasse 33 - 81543 Muenchen Telephone: +49 89 65 29 18
From: Anatoly.Lisovsky@kamaz.kazan.su Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: UUCPD (uucp over tcp/ip) setup question Date: Wed, 01 Dec 93 17:24:05 +0300 Distribution: su Organization: KAMAZ Inc., General Economics Department, (+7 8439) 53-07-34 Message-ID: <VBYOA_iu8K@fkamaz> Sender: news-service@kiae.su References: <CHBo9G.Av8@metropolis.com> In comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software article <CHBo9G.Av8@metropolis.com> John Jamison writes: >I have a Sun and a Next on an ethernet network. I'm trying to get uucp >working between them using the uucpd (tcp/ip uucp listener). I am pretty >sure that the configuration files are set up correctly, but clearly something >is missing. > >The link only works when initiated from the Next side. When I initiate from >the Sun side I get the following: > >(Sun is "eclipse", Next is "metrop") >------------------------------------- > eclipse# Uutry metrop > ./uucico -r1 -smetrop -x5 >/tmp/metrop 2>&1& > tmp=/tmp/metrop > mchFind called (metrop) > conn(metrop) > Device Type TCP wanted > Internal caller type TCP > tcpdial host metrop, port 540 > connect failed: Connection refused > Internal caller type TCP > tcpdial host metrop, port 540 > connect failed: Connection refused > getto ret -1 > Call Failed: NO DEVICES AVAILABLE > exit code 101 > Conversation Complete: Status FAILED > >My inclination is that there is something not set up correctly on the Next >to allow the uucpd daemon to let incoming connections happen. I have tried >reading the FMs but the documentation on uucpd is sparse. I would be >grateful for any help someone can offer! > >Cheers, >John Jamison >jamison@metropolis.com > > I have Taylor uucp, and it works very well. I have in /etc/inetd.conf on answering side: uucp stream tcp nowait uucp /usr/lib/uucp/uucico -l -e i.e. Taylor UUCP will ask the Login: and Password: ( -l flag) and will go to endless loop ( -e flag) -- Anatoly M. Lisovsky, KAMAZ Inc., General Economics Department, STAR division ------------ The Network is The Computer. Per Aspera ad Sun! ---------------
From: terry_marrs@wiltel.com(Terry Marrs) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Need zmodem (sz rz) for NS 3.2 FIP Date: 1 Dec 1993 15:40:55 GMT Organization: WilTel Message-ID: <2didu7$3qa@gateway.wiltel.com> References: <1993Dec1.011637.26259@news.csuohio.edu> > Ahhh ... I found it ... and right on cs.orst.edu:/pub/next/submissions > as a FAT binary and the source, which compiles fine. > > Sorry to waste the bandwidth :-) What's the name? -- |Terry Marrs |terry_marrs@wiltel.com |WilTel | NeXTmail OK
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: hbu@wag.ch (Hans Burkard) Subject: Re: vt220 Message-ID: <CHD24u.1qH@wag.ch> Keywords: vt,vt220,emulators,emulation Sender: usenet@wag.ch Organization: workstation ag, Rohrstr. 36/38, CH-8152 Glattbrugg, Switzerland References: <1993Nov30.221152.1398@xexos.com> Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1993 14:41:17 GMT In article <1993Nov30.221152.1398@xexos.com> you wrote: > > As two such suppliers have already replied, I'll try to give an > impartial view. I have submitted a reply, so I take your comment serious. > We looked around a lot for a really good vt220 emulation for a > client recently, > that had tough requirements for the quality of the emulation. > Cables from Yyrid was the best. yyrid@world.std.com. Since we never have shipped our WE-D320 product to your compagny it is almost impossible that you were able to review our product. PLEASE 1) Point out very clear what products you have reviewed! 2) Do not leave the impression that you have reviewed our product! I urge you to be fair (on the news net) even with your competitors. Thanks -Hans- workstation ag, Switzerland
From: Anatoly.Lisovsky@kamaz.kazan.su Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: UUCPD (uucp over tcp/ip) setup question Date: Wed, 01 Dec 93 18:12:41 +0300 Distribution: world Organization: KAMAZ Inc., General Economics Department, (+7 8439) 53-07-34 Message-ID: <NANgB_iOTP@fkamaz> Sender: news-service@kiae.su References: <8gz13qi00iV4EEV2gW@andrew.cmu.edu> In comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software article <8gz13qi00iV4EEV2gW@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger writes: >Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 30-Nov-93 UUCPD (uucp over >tcp/ip) se.. by John Jamison@metropolis.com >> I have a Sun and a Next on an ethernet network. I'm trying to get uucp >> working between them using the uucpd (tcp/ip uucp listener). I am pretty >> sure that the configuration files are set up correctly, but clearly >> something is missing. >> [..munch..] > >Make sure that you have a line like: > >uucp 540/tcp uucpd # uucp daemon > >in NetInfo. Check via "nidump services ." on the NeXT. > >Secondly, you want to uncomment the second line in /etc/inetd.conf: > ># Run as user "uucp" if you don't want uucpd's wtmp entries. >#uucp stream tcp nowait root /usr/etc/uucpd uucpd > >This will tell the inetd how to respond to a connection on socket 540/tcp. > >Question: what are you trying to do with uucp? Why not use NFS? BTW, i use UUCP for internal e-mail because SMTP is security hole very often. -- Anatoly M. Lisovsky, KAMAZ Inc., General Economics Department, STAR division ------------ The Network is The Computer. Per Aspera ad Sun! ---------------
From: csmith@blackplague.gmu.edu (Christian Smith) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: DOOM for NeXT is one AWESOME GAME!!!!! Date: 1 Dec 1993 17:31:51 GMT Organization: The Gnomes of Zurich (shhh!) Distribution: world Message-ID: <2dike7$nqe@news.intercon.com> References: <CHCHq2.BHH@unix.portal.com> In article <CHCHq2.BHH@unix.portal.com> wwright@shell.portal.com (Bradly William Wright) writes: >I just downloaded DOOM! from cs.orst.edu, and it is absolutely >great. I just thought I'd post some initial feedback to the >net, and give many many thanks to ID Software for releasing >this beta. DOOM is very gruesome and very cool! It's a >shoot-em up game similiar to ID's Castle Wolfenstien. It's >the best game I've ever seen running on a NeXT. > >Way to go John Carmack!!!! Sure would have been nice if it had run on my Cube. They should have at least put up some info file that said white hardware only. -- Christian Smith aka Blackplague PGP Public Key available by finger or request.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: garyc@news.eecs.nwu.edu (Gary I. Chang) Subject: SoftPC in NS3.2 Black Hardware Message-ID: <CHDBrv.EpI@eecs.nwu.edu> Sender: usenet@eecs.nwu.edu Organization: EECS Department, Northwestern University Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1993 18:09:30 GMT Hi, I don't what to say about SoftPC DEMO as bundled with NS3.2 Moto. DOS starts O.K. like a charm, but Window 3.1 is very unpredictable.... It sometimes starts up in VGA mode, and sometime don't.... I once switched it to CGA text mode before starts win, then it worked but not for the next run. When it doesn't work, it shows the MS window Big LOGO saying "MS WINDOWS Version 3.1" as the title page, then it blanks itself with no further response at all. A couple of times I get a message dump from the DOS window complaining " Standard Mode: Fault in MS-DOS Extender...." followed with SEG Registers dump. What is the exactly setup you have to put it to work. I have tried various combination with Memory/Display setups. I have a NSC with 24 MB RAM and plenty of HD space. I assign the hard_disk.hdf to be 50 MB for Window disk. I set the Extended to 4MB(or 8MB) and with 0/1 XMS memory. Oh, one more thing, I once was able to enter Window Destop with every apps running perfectly. So, I exit assuming that I may resize the window next time I start it up. BINGO! I got exactly the Blank SoftPC window again. **SIGH** Gary
From: mike@ceramics.cmpe.ubc.ca (Michael C. Cam) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Is 3.2 black out? Date: 1 Dec 1993 19:05:36 GMT Organization: The University of British Columbia Distribution: world Message-ID: <2dipu0$1mn@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> References: <1993Dec1.083439.2752@ivax> In article <1993Dec1.083439.2752@ivax> jamastro@indyvax.iupui.edu writes: > I've noticed several posts about 3.2 for Intel hardware and even one > or two for black hardware. Is 3.2 for black hardware shipping yet? > I should recieve a free upgrade to 3.2 and haven't heard a word > from NeXT. > > Do I still have to call and pester NeXT to get my free upgrade? > > Any help appreciated. 3.2 for black should be out and shipping. I received my copy last Friday, Nov. 26 via FedEx. -- ..Mike. ___________________________________________________________________ | | | ___ ^ ... /\ BEAUTIFUL | | _|_::| ___o '|`^ .. o_ . .. /\ / \ BRITISH | | |:::|:| \ \, ^ '|`|` (`_|/____') / / /\ COLUMBIA | | |:::|:| (o)/ (o) '|`'|`|`` ,,/ . ... . .. / \ | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| | Michael C. Cam E-MAIL (NeXT Mail OK) HOME 604-263-7609 | | UBC Materials Eng. mike@ceramics.cmpe.ubc.ca WORK 604-822-3122 | |___________________________________________________________________|
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bobcook@slac.stanford.edu (Bob Cook) Subject: Re: Is 3.2 black out? Message-ID: <CHDEu5.921@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center References: <1993Dec1.083439.2752@ivax> Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1993 19:15:40 GMT jamastro@indyvax.iupui.edu writes >Is 3.2 for black hardware shipping yet? Yes. A number of people on the net have said so. And, I got mine (User and Developer in one box) last Tuesday, 11/23. I did nothing except send in the registration card when I got 3.1. >Do I still have to call and pester NeXT to get my free upgrade? Some have said that NeXT lost their registration. It certainly wouldn't hurt to call and ask. -- Bob Cook bobcook@slac.stanford.edu Stanford Linear Accelerator Center NeXT mail okay
From: ted@aerospace.aero.org (Ted Bujewski) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: X windows software Date: 1 Dec 1993 19:43:37 GMT Organization: The Aerospace Corporation Distribution: usa Message-ID: <2dis59$7kt@news.aero.org> Keywords: X windows I am new to this newsgroup so please excuse me if this question has already been asked a million times. I was wondering if someone could give me a run down of all of the X windows software available for the NeXT. Any information would be appreciated. Specifically I was interested in: 1) An evaluation of the software (what you liked and didn't like) 2) Phone numbers of software vendors who carry it. 3) Prices Thanks Ted
From: spb@news.uoregon.edu (Steven Berry) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Accessing DOS partition from NEXTSTEP Date: 1 Dec 1993 19:45:37 GMT Organization: University of Oregon Message-ID: <2dis91$hkn@pith.uoregon.edu> References: <CHBH46.G53@sybase.com> Michael Brill (brill@sybase.com) wrote: : Is it possible to access a DOS FAT partition on my hard disk while in : NEXTSTEP? I remember reading about this, but didn't find any mention : of it in the documentation. : Thanks, ...Michael The DOS partition should automount at startup. If not, try 'mount -o dos /dev/rhd0b /xxxx' where xxxx is your mount point from a terminal window from your root account. I think this was how I forced mine to work when it was acting pesky. If you your DOS partition is on another physical drive, you'll have to specify its raw device name, /dev/rhd1h, which is the second physical IDE drive on your machine instead of /dev/rhd0a, which is the second partition on your first physical IDE drive for example. Substitute sd for hd if your drive is SCSI. Steve
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Accessing DOS partition from NEXTSTEP Date: 1 Dec 1993 20:05:36 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL USA Message-ID: <2diteg$al1@news.acns.nwu.edu> References: <CHBH46.G53@sybase.com> In article <CHBH46.G53@sybase.com>, Michael Brill <brill@sybase.com> wrote: >Is it possible to access a DOS FAT partition on my hard disk while in >NEXTSTEP? I remember reading about this, but didn't find any mention >of it in the documentation. > You might want to look at your root directory for a folder with the same label name as the dos partition (or "noname" if its blank). It should be mounted automagically. This is probably true only if the dos partition is the first on the drive. If its not there check the console messages for errors. -- Jerry S. Weiss j-weiss@nwu.edu Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois %SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software From: sailer@sun10.sep.bnl.gov (Tim Sailer) Subject: Re: UUCPD (uucp over tcp/ip) setup question Message-ID: <CHCExw.2EK@sun10.sep.bnl.gov> Followup-To: comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Organization: Brookhaven National Lab References: <CHBo9G.Av8@metropolis.com> Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1993 06:20:19 GMT John Jamison (jamison@metropolis.com) wrote: : tcpdial host metrop, port 540 : connect failed: Connection refused It sounds like uucpd is not running on the Next. Can you telnet to the Next, and/or telnet to port 540? Tim -- Tim Sailer sailer@sun10.sep.bnl.gov "The one who dies with the most toys, wins!"
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.sun.misc Subject: Re: UUCPD (uucp over tcp/ip) setup question Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1993 15:06:39 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Chemistry, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Distribution: world Message-ID: <kgzDZD600iV446MVsW@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <NANgB_iOTP@fkamaz> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 1-Dec-93 Re: UUCPD (uucp over tcp/ip.. by Anatoly.Lisovsky: > i use UUCP for internal e-mail because SMTP is security hole very often. Hmm. You should get the newest release of sendmail from FTP.CS.Berkeley.EDU in /ucb/sendmail. This version fixes the (known) security holes. Most operating system vendors (a) ship the older 5.x sendmail, which does have known holes, and (b) set up sendmail incorrectly anyway, thereby comprising security further. Anyway, did you get uucpd working on the NeXT? -Chuck Charles William Swiger -- CMU...*splat*! | 1. You can't fly. --------------------------------------------+ 2. Cars are always real, even AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | when they're not. Failing that: cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu | 3. Police are not your friends. NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | 4. Fire burns.
From: alevine@ucsd.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: DOOM for NeXT is one AWESOME GAME!!!!! Date: 1 Dec 1993 20:02:06 GMT Organization: The Avant-Garde of the Now, Ltd. Distribution: world Message-ID: <2dit7uINNbkm@network.ucsd.edu> References: <CHCHq2.BHH@unix.portal.com> In article <CHCHq2.BHH@unix.portal.com> wwright@shell.portal.com (Bradly William Wright) writes: > I just downloaded DOOM! from cs.orst.edu, and it is absolutely > great. I just thought I'd post some initial feedback to the > net, and give many many thanks to ID Software for releasing > this beta. DOOM is very gruesome and very cool! It's a > shoot-em up game similiar to ID's Castle Wolfenstien. It's > the best game I've ever seen running on a NeXT. > > Way to go John Carmack!!!! > > Brad Wright > wwright@shell.portal.com > wwright@premisys.com Gee. I'd really like to check this out. Unfortunately, I downloaded the cs.orst.edu copy to discover it was i486 architechture only. Anyone know of a M68K version? -- Alexander Levine Department of Philosophy alevine@ucsd.edu 0302, UCSD NeXTMail fine La Jolla, CA 92093 ************************************************ Disclaimer: I am responsible for all opinions expressed by anyone at any time.
From: lparkyn@saturn (Lyle Parkyn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Is 3.2 black out? Date: 1 Dec 1993 14:26:39 GMT Organization: Rogers Communications Distribution: NA Message-ID: <2di9iv$19s@mail.Rogers.Com> References: <1993Dec1.083439.2752@ivax> In article <1993Dec1.083439.2752@ivax> jamastro@indyvax.iupui.edu writes: > Is 3.2 for black hardware shipping yet? > I received NS3.2 OS and developer for black HW a few days ago, FedEx. -- Lyle D. Parkyn (416)250-4810 lparkyn@corpit.cantel.rogers.com NeXT Mail welcome Opinions expressed are my own.
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Anyone used SoftPC on 3.2 FIP yet? Date: 1 Dec 1993 21:58:49 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL USA Message-ID: <2dj42p$cla@news.acns.nwu.edu> References: <1993Nov23.030805.17530@news.csuohio.edu> <1993Nov24.141707.399@corona.com> <2d5hnb$le7@news.acns.nwu.edu> A few days ago I wrote I was having some problems with SoftPC on NS/FIP 3.2. Since that time, I've managed to overcome most of them and I am now very pleased with both the performance and the level of compatability. Full screen mode performance is very very good. Performance in a window is usable, but not great. If you have a dos/windoze application that is extremely interactive you'll want to use full screen mode. If you are not in full combat mode, then a window is just fine. The level of compability with my mix of software (WordPerfect, hobby type sofware) is very good. No crashes or hiccups. I still have trouble using all my of my Dos partition. To get around this problem I mount it via its Next Filesystem entry and everything works fine, though there's probably a small performance hit. The advantage of this method is that the files are still accessible under Next (apparently directly mounting the dos partition automagicially unmounts it from the Next Filespace). I'm not a dos/windoze expert and some of my early headaches are traceable to this fact. -- Jerry S. Weiss j-weiss@nwu.edu Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois %SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson) Subject: Re: OpenStep and DPS ? Message-ID: <1993Dec1.214651.15991@news.media.mit.edu> Sender: news@news.media.mit.edu (USENET News System) Organization: MIT Media Laboratory References: <1993Nov27.061940.26832@netnews.noc.drexel.edu> <2d8etd$914@gap.cco.caltech.edu> <1993Nov30.193154.28929@adobe.com> Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1993 21:46:51 GMT Gag. I was wrong - 3DKit is not part of OpenStep, although it will continue to be part of NeXT's offerings (i.e. it will be on their SPARC port). sigh. -- --> Michael B. Johnson -- wave@media.mit.edu --> MIT Media Lab -- Computer Graphics & Animation Group --> 20 Ames St. E15-023G -- (617) 547-0563 (day office) --> Cambridge, MA 02139 -- (617) 253-0663 (night office)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: steve@eps.rain.com (Steve Kornreich) Subject: Transys PNI help! Sender: news@percy.rain.com (Jeff Beadles) Organization: The Irwin Hoson Company Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1993 02:22:47 GMT Message-ID: <steve.34.001261C9@eps.rain.com> Has anyone yet got PNI to work on Intel platform.. I can get the modem to dial, login correctly.. but I have no access to the serial port when I try to ping anyone.. What am I doing wrong.. -steve steve@eps.rain.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: chipsig@kaiwan.com (<Chip> H. Sieglinger) Subject: Remote access to personal NeXT? Message-ID: <CHDr7C.42n@kaiwan.com> Organization: KAIWAN Internet Access (310-527-4279,714-539-0829,830-6061,818-579-6701) Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1993 23:42:47 GMT Is there software that would allow access to one's home NeXT system, so that it would be possible to access data files, (not executable apps) held in the file structure? I would think a BBS would work, however, that would be more than I'm looking for, and I don't know of such an app at any rate. I would particularly like to be able to leave a CD on the machine, and access it for data searches. Any thoughts or ideas? Chip .
From: mcarswll@oyster.smcm.edu (Matt Carswell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: DOOM for NeXT is one AWESOME GAME!!!!! Date: 2 Dec 1993 01:21:43 GMT Organization: University of Maryland, College Park Distribution: world Message-ID: <2djfv7$fib@umd5.umd.edu> References: <2dike7$nqe@news.intercon.com> In article <2dike7$nqe@news.intercon.com> csmith@blackplague.gmu.edu (Christian Smith) writes: > Sure would have been nice if it had run on my Cube. They should have at > least put up some info file that said white hardware only. > > -- > Christian Smith > aka Blackplague > PGP Public Key available by finger or request. I AGREE!!! Although the submission in next.announce said for intel, i was hoping that by some freak chance the game would run on a color NeXTstation, but no. This is a great trend though. finally a real game for the NeXT platform. . keep up the good work, but if possible, id, please release a black hardware version (with sound?) for those of us who don't have NeXTstep on our pc's yet. if anyone has the e-mail address of someone at id that i could write to, please post it here or to me. thanks. -- matt mcarswll@oyster.smcm.edu
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Features of Tailor.app that I want to see in all other apps. Date: 2 Dec 1993 02:28:15 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Distribution: world Message-ID: <2djjrv$khj@agate.berkeley.edu> Keywords: Tailor, PostScript, Editor I have been using Tailor.app (a Graphical PostScript editor, I would say THE only app of its kind on ANY platform), and I am continue to be impressed by what it can do. Perhaps, I will write about it sometime. There are two pretty unique features that I particularly like which I would like to see incorporated in other NEXTSTEP apps. So, let me state what they are so more developers will implement them. [1] Multiple Views into a single document. All apps I have seen let you see and manipulate a document in one view/window at a time. E.g., you have to zoom in to see details and zoom out to see the whole picture, and often zoom/unzoom is a time consuming operation. Tailor lets you see a single document via multiple views in separate windows, e.g., one zoomed, another unzoomed, and yet another showing a different section. This may not always be needed and you don't have to, but it's great to have the capability when you can really use it. I really want this feature in Edit.app. If someone writes a better Edit with multiple views into a single document, I will buy it. (Don't tell me emacs can do this. It doesn't count.) [2] Entering Groups without Ungrouping. In all drawing apps I have used, in order to edit members of a grouped object, you have to ungroup it first. Tailor lets you "enter" a group and let you edit its members without breaking the grouping. I want to see that in Virtuoso and other apps. Sorry if I missed existing apps that already do these things, and please let me know about it. -- Izumi Ohzawa [ $@Bg_78^=;(J ] USMail: University of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720 Telephone: (510) 642-6440 Fax: (510) 642-3323 Internet: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (NeXTMail OK)
From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: From Frame to Pages Date: 2 Dec 93 02:40:49 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <jeffo.754800049@uiuc.edu> References: <2dhn5e$5ou@hp4at.eunet.co.at> Alfred H. Corrodi writes: >Shall I switch from Frame Maker to PAGES? I am using Frame Maker to a great >extend and now my software distributor tells me, I should consider PAGES. >Any experience? From what I've been told, contrary to their current ad in NeXTWORLD magazine, they (still) aren't shipping their v1.0 product. How do they manage to stay in business for so long without shipping anything? Any word on when PasteUp will receive long and regular DTP functionality? Or word from Frame on keeping NS up to date with FrameMaker? In any case, if you're using Frame and wish to continue using it, if you can afford to do so, you will have a more stable ride if you move to a platform that Frame won't likely leave for some time -- either the Mac or Windows. The product will work very much the same with some differences of having up-to-date Frame code and, on the Mac at least, the ability to import MS Word documents (the 4.x files I tried worked, I've not tried 5.x). -- J.B. Nicholson-Owens (*NO* NeXTmail please)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: gfin@cyber.psych.ualberta.ca (Gary Finley) Subject: Re: DOOM for NeXT is one AWESOME GAME!!!!! Message-ID: <1993Dec2.023526.23053@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada References: <2dike7$nqe@news.intercon.com> Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1993 02:35:26 GMT Christian Smith writes (about Doom) > Sure would have been nice if it had run on my Cube. They should have at > least put up some info file that said white hardware only. I swapped a couple of messages with Carmack today, and asked him if there was any chance that he'd do a black-NeXT version of the game. Here's what he said: --------------- There will be a black version when I release the "real" next game. I need to write a couple of routines in '040 assembler to get decent performace, and I haven't had time yet. After the DOS version ships in ten days or so, I will be putting multi channel digital sounds in the NS version, and improving the speed and interface. --------------- As long as your cube has an 040 board, it look like you're going to be OK. -------------------------------------------- Gary Finley, Univ of Alberta Psychology Dept. gfin@psych.ualberta.ca (NeXTmail welcome!)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy From: wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson) Subject: Re: Features of Tailor.app that I want to see in all other apps. Message-ID: <1993Dec2.044819.23327@news.media.mit.edu> Keywords: Tailor, PostScript, Editor Sender: news@news.media.mit.edu (USENET News System) Organization: MIT Media Laboratory References: <2djjrv$khj@agate.berkeley.edu> Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1993 04:48:19 GMT In article <2djjrv$khj@agate.berkeley.edu> izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu writes: >>I have been using Tailor.app (a Graphical PostScript editor, I would >>say THE only app of its kind on ANY platform), and I am continue to >>be impressed by what it can do. Perhaps, I will write about it >>sometime. >> It really is awesome. >>There are two pretty unique features that I particularly like which >>I would like to see incorporated in other NEXTSTEP apps. So, let >>me state what they are so more developers will implement them. >> >>[1] Multiple Views into a single document. >> Another good example of when this is vital is drawing icons - The 8X view and the 1X view... >>it. (Don't tell me emacs can do this. It doesn't count.) I know, but it's still one of the reasons many of us can't give up emacs for more GUI friendly apps. This is vital. >> >>[2] Entering Groups without Ungrouping. >> A particulary elegant way to implement this exists in a very popular NeXSTEP app: InterfaceBuilder. Probably the nicest part of the implementation is being able to paste into a group in IB: just select some sub object in a group (i.e. a button grouped in a box) and past (or drag) some other object in. Voila! Good points, though. I'd love to see the above techniques SOP in NS apps... -- --> Michael B. Johnson -- wave@media.mit.edu --> MIT Media Lab -- Computer Graphics & Animation Group --> 20 Ames St. E15-023G -- (617) 547-0563 (day office) --> Cambridge, MA 02139 -- (617) 253-0663 (night office)
From: luomat@alleg.edu (Tj) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: CommandMon Date: 2 Dec 1993 06:50:50 GMT Organization: Allegheny College Distribution: world Message-ID: <2dk38a$cun@ftp.alleg.edu> Sorry if I asked this already, I meant to but cannot seem to remember if I did. Is anyone out there using CommandMon? It seems like a great "applet" which lets you run commands at intervals you determine. There is something on cs.orst called Pump which seems (from the readme) to be doing the same thing... Just curious as to what ever became of this applet, or if anyone has figured out an ingenius use for it that no one else would think of, etc.. -- Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College, Meadville PA USA Using: NS 3.1 Black NeXT Mail Welcomed
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: DOOM for NeXT is one AWESOME GAME!!!!! Date: 1 Dec 1993 23:27:13 -0500 Organization: Digital Fix Development Distribution: world Message-ID: <2djqr1$svl@digifix.digifix.com> References: <2djfv7$fib@umd5.umd.edu> Matt Carswell writes > I AGREE!!! > Although the submission in next.announce said for intel, i was hoping that > by some freak chance the game would run on a color NeXTstation, but no. Guys! I actually downloaded and verified this so you wouldn't have to. That why I put the note in the announcement for comp.sys.next.announce! I had hoped that John had made a mistake when he posted it was for NS/Intel, instead of Nextstep in general. It'll come... I'd love to see it. I've known about this game for months now, that there would be a Next version, I had to post the announcement, and I CAN'T EVEN SEE IT!!!! ARGGGGG! Pulling my hair out here! :-) Mind you, not like I need another distraction, and Wolf3D cost me ALOT of time on the PC! oh well.... -- - Scott Anguish - sanguish@digifix.com (NextMail) next-announce@digifix.com (comp.sys.next.announce submissions)
From: luomat@alleg.edu (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Why not two docks? Date: 2 Dec 1993 09:05:32 GMT Organization: Allegheny College Distribution: world Message-ID: <2dkb4s$ft2@ftp.alleg.edu> Well, after having various options presented to me, I've opted for MonsterShelf, available free from cs.orst.edu pub/next/submissions. Thanks to the author for suggesting it. I had seen it awhile ago and forgotten about it... What I really wanted was: * no significant additional space on my account (since I'm limited) * not an app I would have to auto-launch and slow down my login * not an app, because likely there would be $ involved, which I don't have * another dock, which would start the apps in their assigned spot along the side, rather than along the bottom. Well, MonsterShelf is small (83 KB when thinned to black), quick, and free. All it was missing was the ability to start the apps where they were, but it had the advantage over all dock extenders of allowing folders and files, as well as executables and apps. -- Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College, Meadville PA USA Using: NS 3.1 Black NeXT Mail Welcomed
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: ak866@Freenet.carleton.ca (Steven Besler) Subject: Re: DOOM for NeXT is one AWESOME GAME!!!!! Message-ID: <CHEI46.D2E@freenet.carleton.ca> Sender: news@freenet.carleton.ca Organization: The National Capital Freenet References: <CHCHq2.BHH@unix.portal.com> Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1993 09:24:06 GMT Will the black version work on a mono NeXTSTATION Turbo? Whe it's released, that is... Steve -- Steven K. Besler | Life fluctuates between boredom, fascination, and ak866@freenet.carleton.ca | panic; punctuated by sleep, alcohol, and caffeine.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: peter@corsica (Peter Eisch) Subject: Re: DOOM for NeXT is one AWESOME GAME!!!!! Message-ID: <CHEx7F.DBp@news2.cis.umn.edu> Sender: news@news2.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: University of Minnesota Hospital and Clinic, Laboratory Information Services References: <CHCHq2.BHH@unix.portal.com> <CHEI46.D2E@freenet.carleton.ca> Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1993 14:44:50 GMT : Will the black version work on a mono NeXTSTATION Turbo? : Whe it's released, that is... I'd almost gamble it wouldn't run on a dimension... peter -- Always looking for a handy place to nap... peter@tahiti.umhc.umn.edu (Peter Eisch) peter.a.eisch@uwrf.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jpw@sansfoy.lib.virginia.edu (John Price-Wilkin) Subject: pop for NS Message-ID: <CHEy09.372@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU Organization: University of Virginia Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1993 15:07:20 GMT Has anyone compiled a pop server for NeXTStep? Is there any
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: lturetsk@minerva.cis.yale.edu (Lenny Turetsky) Subject: AIR QACCESS VLB COMBO IDE/SCSI Message-ID: <1993Dec2.154942.27820@news.yale.edu> Sender: news@news.yale.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Yale University Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1993 15:49:42 GMT [ Article crossposted from comp.sys.next.hardware ] [ Article crossposted from comp.soft-sys.nextstep ] [ Author was Lenny Turetsky ] [ Posted on Thu, 2 Dec 1993 15:41:31 GMT ] Does anyone out there know if the A.I.R. QACCESS VLB COMBO IDE/SCSI/IO card works with NS/iP? Any replies (yeses or nos (sp?)) would be much appreciated. LT
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy From: lorinr@altsys.com (Lorin Rivers III) Subject: Re: Features of Tailor.app that I want to see in all other apps. Message-ID: <1993Dec2.155415.4796@altsys.com> Keywords: Tailor, PostScript, Editor Organization: Altsys Corporation, Richardson, TX References: <2djjrv$khj@agate.berkeley.edu> Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1993 15:54:15 GMT In article <2djjrv$khj@agate.berkeley.edu> izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu writes: >I have been using Tailor.app (a Graphical PostScript editor, I would >say THE only app of its kind on ANY platform), and I am continue to >be impressed by what it can do. Perhaps, I will write about it >sometime. > >There are two pretty unique features that I particularly like which >I would like to see incorporated in other NEXTSTEP apps. So, let >me state what they are so more developers will implement them. > >[1] Multiple Views into a single document. This is a feature we are considering for a future release of Virtuoso... >[2] Entering Groups without Ungrouping. Virtuoso has this feature. At any time, you may press Alternate while using the selection tool to select a component of a group. Pressing the ``backqoute'' ("`") key backs you out of the selection hierarchy. Pressing Control selects objects behind other objects. Adding Shift toggles an objects' selection status. >Sorry if I missed existing apps that already do these things, and >please let me know about it. > >-- >Izumi Ohzawa [ $@Bg_78^=;(J ] >USMail: University of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720 >Telephone: (510) 642-6440 Fax: (510) 642-3323 >Internet: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (NeXTMail OK) -- Lorin Rivers Lorin_Rivers@altsys.com NEXTSTEP Sales Manager 214.680.2060 269 W. Renner Parkway NeXT Mail Expected Richardson, Texas 75080 I said it, not my boss
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Why not two (or four) docks? Date: 2 Dec 1993 17:49:58 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Distribution: world Message-ID: <2dl9s6$1bt@agate.berkeley.edu> References: <2dkb4s$ft2@ftp.alleg.edu> In article <2dkb4s$ft2@ftp.alleg.edu> luomat@alleg.edu (Timothy J. Luoma) writes: >What I really wanted was: > * no significant additional space on my account (since I'm limited) > * not an app I would have to auto-launch and slow down my login > * not an app, because likely there would be $ involved, which I don't >have > * another dock, which would start the apps in their assigned spot along >the side, rather than along the bottom. > >Well, MonsterShelf is small (83 KB when thinned to black), quick, and >free. All it was missing was the ability to start the apps where they >were, but it had the advantage over all dock extenders of allowing >folders and files, as well as executables and apps. I am using Locus, and quite happy with it. But I want NeXT to expand the Dock by 4 times within Workspace Manager. It can be done without changing the appearance of the current dock one bit: The dock can simulate a 4-sided thin rectangular block (pole) that can be rotated around the vertical axis. Dragging action to left or right in the NeXT icon will rotate the block and will let the user select a face. Perhaps the NeXT icon can have a little number in the corner indicating the current face. -- Izumi Ohzawa [ $@Bg_78^=;(J ] USMail: University of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720 Telephone: (510) 642-6440 Fax: (510) 642-3323 Internet: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (NeXTMail OK)
From: luomat@alleg.edu (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Wrapping overlong lines in Terminal.app Date: 2 Dec 1993 17:38:58 GMT Organization: Allegheny College Distribution: world Message-ID: <2dl97i$stq@ftp.alleg.edu> Is there a way to get terminal to 'wrap' or 'wordwrap' (whatever the term is for bringing an overlong line down to the next line) lines? Some commands give back results which cannot be fully seen (ps -aux for example) and force you to make the shell window too big to fit on the screen. Thanks TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College, Meadville PA USA Using: NS 3.1 Black NeXT Mail Welcomed
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: josh@vegiwopr.calpoly.edu (Josh) Subject: Re: Anyone used SoftPC on 3.2 FIP yet? Message-ID: <1993Dec02.184937.191939@zeus.aix.calpoly.edu> Sender: news@zeus.calpoly.edu Organization: Cal Poly State University, San Luis Obispo References: <1993Nov23.030805.17530@news.csuohio.edu> <1993Nov24.141707.399@corona.com> <2d5hnb$le7@news.acns.nwu.edu> Date: Thu, 02 Dec 1993 18:49:37 GMT In article <2d5hnb$le7@news.acns.nwu.edu>, Jerry Weiss <jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu> wrote: >In article <1993Nov24.141707.399@corona.com>, >Peter Kron <pkron@corona.com> wrote: >>From: cowboy@omega.csuohio.edu (Joe Rosenfeld) >>> Hey can anyone report on how SoftPC running on a white >>> 3.2 machine performs? >> [stuff working deleted] > >I've had trouble with my DOS partition. It mounts but all the directories >and contents come up bad or with sector read error. Chkdsk reports the >directories as "illegal". Going back to DOS/NEXT the directories >and files appear as fine. The dos partition is >100 mb and some others have >reported problems with partitions >64 mb under Nextstep. The partition >was created with 6.0 dos and Softpc is 5.0 dos, but I'd be suprised if that >was the difference. I am not using any disk-doubling. I have a 250meg dos partition that does the same thing. I'm currently getting around this by letting Worspace mount it in the root dir, then having SoftPC mount that as a unix dir (I think it was called FSA). Kinda clunky, def slow. My part drive was partitioned by OS/2, formated by DOS 6.0 and all the files were copied to the drive using OS/2 (2.1). No nasty compression is being used here either. [speed horror story deleted] > >My DX2/66 is sluggish too. Takes forever for windows to start. >I've only got 16mb ram, so at first I thought it was a memory crunch, >but disk I/O is almost non-existant so I don't think I'm swaping. Yeah - I've got 16 megs too, and life is slow in SoftPC. I'm using a 486-50dx (not dx/2) and it's slower than OS/2 (an unfair comparison I know, and only from my first impression so far). What really bugs me are the screen draws, but that could be due to being in 640, not sure if everything is "off" the window VGA doesn't seem to work in a window (a little window pops up telling you it's impossible - Funny OS/2 does it :). I was under the impression that SoftPC on other platforms (mac, sun, whatever) did VGA in a window. Is it only certain modes of direct write VGA that don't work (I only tested a game or two, nothing useful like OrCad) ? >I've not been able to get full screen mode to work. Switching to >it gives me a completely black screen. Fortunately ctrl-alt-del returns >control to Softpc/Next and I can kill softpc in a controlled manner. >I'm using a Gateway with ATI XLR board running 1120 x 832 16 bit color. I can't switch to full screen either. It says that my session doesn't support it and then crashes and quits SoftPC (not very elegant exception handling there :). The Release Notes say that this mode is only supported on video cards supported by NextStep. Duh! If I'm running SoftPC on NSFIP, NS must work on my video card - seems what they meant were those cards not including cards with only VGA support. >These are extremely early results. Its entirely possible I messed up >something in the upgrade. I don't think we messed anything up in the install, but yeah, maybe. >j-weiss@nwu.edu josh@vegiwopr.calpoly.edu (NeXTMail and MIME ok)
From: gysin@mugwump.ucsd.edu (Reality) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: HyperTeXT (summary) Date: 2 Dec 1993 18:33:38 GMT Organization: The Avant-Garde of the Now, Ltd. Message-ID: <2dlce2INNt37@network.ucsd.edu> A week or so ago, I posted a request for opinions about Hypertext applications for NextStep. The overwhelming majority was in favour of HyperSense (Thoughtful Software - info@thoughtful.com), which many recommeded as an application with abilities which are a superset of those available in the Mac HyperCard application. In other words, it can do everything HyperCard can do plus MORE! HyperSense is currently at the 0.9 prerelease Beta stage and should be commercially available soon. Now all I need is a NeXT EndNote clone and I'll be all set! Brian ------ Brian Keeley --- UCSD Philosophy --- SIO Heiligenberg Lab ------ Phone:(619)534-2127(lab) - PGP public key available - NeXTmail accepted "Exterminate all rational thought." - W.S. Burroughs
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: heberlei@cs.ucdavis.edu (Louis Todd Heberlein) Subject: SoftPC for Motorola Message-ID: <CHF8I5.D6C@ucdavis.edu> Keywords: NEXTSTEP 3.2, Motorola, SoftPC Sender: usenet@ucdavis.edu (News Administrator) Organization: University of California, Davis Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1993 18:54:04 GMT I am in the process of upgrading my NeXTstation to NS 3.2 (no easy task if you don't have 3.1 already), and I plan to install SoftPC as well. When I called Insignia Solutions, they said they have NOT upgraded SoftPC for Motorola hardware since NS 3.0. Is this correct? I was under the impression that Insignia made some major speed improvements to SoftPC by using some of the technology developed for NeXTTIME. Is this new speed up only for NEXTSTEP/FIP? Have we Motorola owners been abandoned? Please help, Todd Heberlein heberlei@cs.ucdavis.edu
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Wrapping overlong lines in Terminal.app Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1993 15:01:42 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Chemistry, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Distribution: world Message-ID: <kgzYaay00iUyQ6zZlf@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <2dl97i$stq@ftp.alleg.edu> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 2-Dec-93 Wrapping overlong lines in .. by Timothy J. Luoma@alleg.e > Is there a way to get terminal to 'wrap' or 'wordwrap' (whatever the > term is for bringing an overlong line down to the next line) lines? > > Some commands give back results which cannot be fully seen (ps -aux for > example) and force you to make the shell window too big to fit on the > screen. Enter Terminal->Info->Preferences; switch to Display; enable "Wrap lines that are too long (rewrap when window resized)". Also, enable scrollback, if you have not done so already.... -Chuck Charles William Swiger -- CMU...*splat*! | 1. You can't fly. --------------------------------------------+ 2. Cars are always real, even AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | when they're not. Failing that: cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu | 3. Police are not your friends. NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | 4. Fire burns.
From: luomat@alleg.edu (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Wrapping overlong lines in Terminal.app Date: 2 Dec 1993 20:32:07 GMT Organization: Allegheny College Distribution: world Message-ID: <2dljc7$5dr@ftp.alleg.edu> References: <kgzYaay00iUyQ6zZlf@andrew.cmu.edu> In article <kgzYaay00iUyQ6zZlf@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes: Enter Terminal->Info->Preferences; switch to Display; enable "Wrap lines that are too long (rewrap when window resized)". ~~ I already had that set This doesn't work for ps -aux (and I expect others as well). I don't have root priviledges either, so the new finger program wouldn't help me. -- Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College, Meadville PA USA Using: NS 3.1 Black NeXT Mail Welcomed
Newsgroups: comp.databases.object,comp.windows.interviews,comp.sys.next.software From: ege@cerl.fiu.edu (Dr. Raimund K. Ege) Subject: Announcement: TOOLS USA 94 Organization: Florida International University, Miami Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1993 00:20:32 GMT Message-ID: <CHFnM9.G20@fiu.edu> Keywords: Call for Participation Sender: ege@cerl (Dr. Raimund K. Ege) TOOLS USA '94 Technology of Object-Oriented Languages and Systems FOURTEENTH INTERNATIONAL CONFERENCE AND EXHIBITION Santa Barbara, California, August 1-5, 1994 CONFERENCE ANNOUNCEMENT AND CALL FOR PAPERS Program Chair: Raimund Ege, Florida International University Panel and Workshop Chair: Madhu Singh, Bellcore Conference Chair: Bertrand Meyer, ISE Program Committee: Richie Bielak Bank of New York Grady Booch Rational Chris Bosch The MITRE Corporation David M. Butler Limit Point Systems, Inc. Mohamed E. Fayad Object Technologies, Inc. Milton Fulghum FlightSafety International, Inc. Dipayan Gangopadhyay IBM Thomas J. Watson Research Center Brian Henderson-Sellers University of Technology, Sydney Paul Jatkowski Andersen Consulting Robert Marcus Boeing Computer Services James McKim Hartford Graduate Center Hafedh Mili University of Quebec at Montreal Toshimi Minoura Oregon State University Hiroshi Nishimura Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory Cyril Orji Florida International University John Potter Microsoft Institute, Sydney Wolfgang Pree Universitaet Linz David R. Quarrie Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory David Rine George Mason University Bran Selic ObjecTime Limited Sergiu S. Simmel Penobscot Development Corp. Christian Stary Technische Universitaet Wien W. T. Tsai University of Minnesota Tony Wasserman Interactive Development Environments Richard Wiener University of Colorado at Colorado Springs and Editor-in-Chief, Journal of Object-Oriented Programming TOOLS is the major international conference and exhibition devoted to the applications of object-oriented technology. TOOLS USA '94, the fourteenth TOOLS International Conference and Exhibition, returns to Santa Barbara for the fourth time and continues the commitment to excellence demonstrated by earlier conferences in Europe, the Pacific and the US. Standards established for TOOLS by earlier conferences in the series include: + Emphasis on the practice of object-oriented technology and its application in industrial environments, complementing the more academically-oriented perspective of traditional conferences. + Solid technical program, based on a strict refereeing process. + Balanced coverage of the wealth of approaches, trends and variants in the object-oriented community. + Combination of tutorials by recognized experts, up-to-date exhibitions of products and services, invited talks by innovators in the field, relevant panel discussions, and technical papers targeted to industry practitioners. As with previous conferences, the TOOLS 14 Proceedings will be published by Prentice-Hall and made available worldwide. SUBMITTING A PAPER TOOLS USA '94 is now soliciting papers on all aspects of object- oriented technology. All submitted papers will be refereed and judged not only according to standards of technical quality but also on their usefulness to practitioners and applied researchers. A non- exhaustive list of suggested topics includes: + Reports of experiences with O-O technology + Migration toward O-O software development + Management and training issues + O-O user interfaces, persistence and databases + Class management and evolution + Empirical and field studies + Production, distribution and revenue collection of industrial-quality reusable components TOOLS 14 will feature a special track on issues relating to the migration from conventional to object-oriented programming. This track will include workshop(s), tutorials, panel discussions, and featured speakers. Technical papers are expressly sought in this area. Papers should be in the range of 10 to 20 double-spaced pages. Six copies of each submission should be sent to: TOOLS USA '94, Attn: Dr. Raimund Ege School of Computer Science, Florida International University University Park, Miami, FL 33199 USA Phone: (305) 348-3381, Fax: (305) 348-3549 E-mail: ege@scs.fiu.edu Alternatively, you may contact ege@scs.fiu.edu about our experimental e-mail submission procedure. General information is available by e-mail from tools-info@scs.fiu.edu. "Guidelines for Authors" are available via anonymous ftp from tools.fiu.edu in file pub/tools-authors-guide. Proposals for panels and workshops are also solicited and should be sent to the Panel and Workshop Chair: Madhu S. Singh, Ph. D. 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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: john@wpa.com (John Bartley) Subject: Windows apps that _won't_ run under SoftPC Message-ID: <CHE6FA.JFx@nimno.wpa.com> Sender: john@nimno.wpa.com (John Bartley) Organization: Workgroup Productivity Associates Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1993 05:11:33 GMT I was disappointed to read recently that the Windows version of FrameMaker couldn't run under SoftPC on white hardware. All this time I was under the impression (wrongly, it seems) that the new Intel version of SoftPC would allow full use of Windows. The restrictions on enhanced mode (or whatever it is called) didn't occur to me, and I had been planning on being able to use the Windows version of Frame under SoftPC. I also need to run Microsoft Project under SoftPC - does anybody know if this is going to be a problem? If major, "desirable" Windows apps are not going to be executable under SoftPC, what's the point of it existing? Sort of like designing the world's best car except that you deliberately leave off the 4th wheel since it was just too difficult to design with all four. Why does the enhanced mode limitation exist, and is it permanent for SoftPC or just a temprary condition?
From: alexk@swdev.research.otc.com.au (Alex Kowalenko) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Public X11 for Next Date: 2 Dec 1993 22:57:15 GMT Organization: Technical Development Group, Telstra International Distribution: world Message-ID: <2dlrsb$2s8@turin.research.otc.com.au> Is there a publically avaliable Xserver for NeXT, some how dervived from the X11 sources (R5, R4). I know that that there are commerical X products for X, but I was wondering if that if the X sources had a NeXT Xserver (from a quick glance it hasn't) or that someone had released an addendum to the stardard X source releases. (X11R5). Alex Kowalenko Telstra.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bobcook@slac.stanford.edu (Bob Cook) Subject: Re: Wrapping overlong lines in Terminal.app Message-ID: <CHFsL9.8Br@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center References: <2dl97i$stq@ftp.alleg.edu> Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1993 02:07:56 GMT Timothy J. Luoma writes > >Is there a way to get terminal to 'wrap' or 'wordwrap' (whatever the >term is for bringing an overlong line down to the next line) lines? > >Some commands give back results which cannot be fully seen (ps -aux for >example) and force you to make the shell window too big to fit on the >screen. I know of two things that can cause this. One is specific to ps. "ps aux" doesn't write any line longer than 80 (I think) characters. However it allows a w or ww option. Here's what man has to say: w Use a wide output format (132 columns rather than 80); if repeated, e.g. ww, use arbitrarily wide output. This information is used to decide how much of long commands to print. The second is that some program(s), and I have no idea what they are, do something to the (simulated) vt100 that keeps it from wrapping lines. I got the following 1-line shell script from someone else (who got it from someone else who ...) that I execute when that occurs, and it fixes it. The same thing works on vt100 emulators on other platforms. #!/bin/sh # wrap - sends "linewrap on" control string to vt100 echo -n "\033[?7h" -- Bob Cook bobcook@slac.stanford.edu Stanford Linear Accelerator Center NeXT mail okay
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: garyc@netcom.com (Gary I. Chang) Subject: Re: SoftPC in NS3.2 Black Hardware Message-ID: <garycCHFppp.AC6@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) References: <CHDBrv.EpI@eecs.nwu.edu> Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1993 01:05:49 GMT Hi, As I have seemed the same kind of weird behaviors of SoftPC running as a DEMO that came with NS3.1. I can't say for SoftPC/NS3.1, but for 3.2 I seem to have developed a very steady way of staring up MS windows without any problem now.... Here's the trick, Start from DOS with "win /s" into a standard instead. Focus your mouse on other apps such as WorkSpace until Window Destop comes up. (Of course you need to click on those O.K. buttons) I have a NSC with 24 MB and I am running windows in 800 X 600 mode. So far it looks good with floppy, CD-ROM drive, Serial port, mouse attached without any problem. Just my experience, hope this help... Gary
From: venkatr@mik.uky.edu (Venkatesan Raghavan ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXTMail from a shell Date: 3 Dec 93 02:11:04 GMT Organization: University of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences Message-ID: <venkatr.754884664@mik.uky.edu> Hi, I'm sure this question must've been asked a million times before, but here goes once again? Could someone tell me how does Mail.app ecnode, compress Nextmail so that I could reverse the process, maybe convert it to a postscript file, and be able to read it remotely with having to walk uphill, through the snow, barefoot to get on a next console :) Thanks in advance -venkat
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bvrotney@ADS.COM (Bill Vrotney) Subject: Re: Why not two (or four) docks? In-Reply-To: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu's message of 2 Dec 1993 17:49:58 GMT Message-ID: <1993Dec3.014639.26961@ads.com> Sender: usenet@ads.com (USENET News) Organization: Advanced Decision Systems, Mtn. View, CA (415) 960-7300 References: <2dkb4s$ft2@ftp.alleg.edu> <2dl9s6$1bt@agate.berkeley.edu> Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1993 01:46:39 GMT In article <2dl9s6$1bt@agate.berkeley.edu> izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa) writes: > > I am using Locus, and quite happy with it. But I want NeXT to expand > the Dock by 4 times within Workspace Manager. > It can be done without changing the appearance of the current dock > one bit: > > The dock can simulate a 4-sided thin rectangular block (pole) that > can be rotated around the vertical axis. Dragging action to left > or right in the NeXT icon will rotate the block and will let the > user select a face. > Perhaps the NeXT icon can have a little number in the corner > indicating the current face. Good idea. But why stop with a 4-sided rectangular block, why not an (potentially) infinite sided rectangular block so that you could group Apps like Locus does. Also why not borrow the idea from Locus of having the 4 bit sensitive bar on the right (or wherever you want to put it). Then the first click in the bar gives you the current face but subsequent successive clicks give you other faces and clicking on a App (like Locus) will launch the App and make the dock disappear. Then some other action (like clicking on part of the NeXT icon) would bring up a groupings menu (like Locus) so that you could move directly to a face. -- Bill Vrotney BAH/Advanced Decision Systems
From: cooncat@gershwin (Jessica L. Mosher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NS3.2 - when? Date: 3 Dec 1993 04:04:42 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Distribution: usa Message-ID: <2dmdsq$bt5@agate.berkeley.edu> References: <1993Nov30.202336.1139@investor.pgh.pa.us> In article <1993Nov30.202336.1139@investor.pgh.pa.us> rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us (Bob Peirce #305) writes: > The Developer's portion of NS3.2 arrived last week, but I haven't seen > the upgrade yet. Is this normal or should I call someone? This is just > the opposite of NS3.1 where the upgrade came first and the developer > part was a couple of weeks later. > > -- > Bob Peirce, Pittsburgh, PA rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us 412-471-5320 > venetia@investor.pgh.pa.us [NeXT Mail] !uunet.uu.net!pitt!investor!rbp [UUCP] I just think the way they are shipping things is generally bizarre. My boss got her copy of NSFMP 3.1 Developer with no documentation right before Halloween. I got 3.2 they day after I read in here it had shipped--FMP 3.2 User. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jessica L. Mosher Mills College Oakland, CA USA
From: venkatr@mik.uky.edu (Venkatesan Raghavan ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTMail from a shell Date: 3 Dec 93 04:01:12 GMT Organization: University of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences Message-ID: <venkatr.754891272@mik.uky.edu> References: <venkatr.754884664@mik.uky.edu> In <venkatr.754884664@mik.uky.edu> venkatr@mik.uky.edu (Venkatesan Raghavan ) writes: >Hi, > I'm sure this question must've been asked a million times before, but here goes once again? >Could someone tell me how does Mail.app ecnode, compress Nextmail so that I could reverse the process, maybe convert it to a postscript file, and be able to read it remotely with having to walk uphill, through the snow, barefoot to get on a next console :) >Thanks in advance >-venkat I should have been more specific in the above post, I was wanting to read/print embedded next files. I tried uudecoding the embedded files but that did not work to well. Thanks once again -venkat
From: cooncat@gershwin (Jessica L. Mosher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NSFMP: 3.1, 3.2 vs. 3.0 Date: 3 Dec 1993 04:20:39 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Distribution: world Message-ID: <2dmeqn$c4c@agate.berkeley.edu> Hi there. I'm not a commercial software developer, just a student, and I'm curious about what is, or has proven to be, improved in NS 3.1 and 3.2 over 3.0. The installation instructions for 3.1 seemed daunting and 3.2 looks like it doesn't deal well with hard disk partitions. I have seen a lot of posts about problems, but the only improvements I've read about is that the Workspace clock keeps better time and that .gz files can be unpacked. In short: Why should I upgrade? Besides state-of-the-art rhetoric, etc... -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jessica L. Mosher Mills College Oakland, CA USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: lturetsk@minerva.cis.yale.edu (Lenny Turetsky) Subject: Re: Windows apps that _won't_ run under SoftPC Message-ID: <1993Dec3.045936.23602@news.yale.edu> Sender: news@news.yale.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Yale University References: <CHE6FA.JFx@nimno.wpa.com> Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1993 04:59:36 GMT John Bartley (john@wpa.com) wrote: : If major, "desirable" Windows apps are not going to be executable under : SoftPC, what's the point of it existing? Sort of like designing the : world's best car except that you deliberately leave off the 4th wheel : since it was just too difficult to design with all four. Just as a humorous aside: Bill Gates owns what is arguably the world's finest car (Porsche 959) and doesn't drive it because it is not street-legal in his state (Washington). Just a thought ];^> (devilish grin) LT
From: don@b62178.student.CWRU.Edu (Donald J. Siegel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Why not two (or four) docks? Date: 3 Dec 1993 06:21:30 GMT Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA) Distribution: world Message-ID: <2dmlta$sas@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> References: <2dl9s6$1bt@agate.berkeley.edu> In article <2dkb4s$ft2@ftp.alleg.edu> luomat@alleg.edu (Timothy J. Luoma) writes: [MUNCH] > I am using Locus, and quite happy with it. But I want NeXT to expand > the Dock by 4 times within Workspace Manager. > It can be done without changing the appearance of the current dock > one bit: > > The dock can simulate a 4-sided thin rectangular block (pole) that > can be rotated around the vertical axis. Dragging action to left > or right in the NeXT icon will rotate the block and will let the > user select a face. > Perhaps the NeXT icon can have a little number in the corner > indicating the current face. THIS IS AN EXCELLENT IDEA!!!!!!!! don...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: takken@raven.Stanford.EDU (Todd Takken) Subject: Re: Public X11 for Next Message-ID: <1993Dec3.071806.6745@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: Stanford University References: <2dlrsb$2s8@turin.research.otc.com.au> Date: Fri, 3 Dec 93 07:18:06 GMT In article <2dlrsb$2s8@turin.research.otc.com.au> alexk@swdev.research.otc.com.au (Alex Kowalenko) writes: > Is there a publically avaliable Xserver for NeXT, some how dervived from the X11 > sources (R5, R4). > > I know that that there are commerical X products for X, but I was wondering if that > if the X sources had a NeXT Xserver (from a quick glance it hasn't) or that someone > had released an addendum to the stardard X source releases. (X11R5). Partial Answer: cs.orst.edu, /pub/next/XNeXT/McGill-X.pkg.tar contains the McGill mouseX. It is very easy to install and enables you to run X programs on other machines and port the graphics over the net to your NeXT (if you've got an Ethernet hookup). It apparently doesn not contain all the necessary files to compile X programs on the NeXT. Further Questions on Subject: cs.orst.edu has the McGill mouseX mentioned above, something called X11R5-MouseX-v2.3, and a still another folder called mouseX containing some rather hard to assemble MIT code. What's the deal here? Have three different groups simply chosen the same name for different NeXT X versions, or are the versions related? Does any shareware NeXT X software contain all code necessary to compile and run my own X software on my NeXT? -- Todd Takken takken@leland.stanford.edu -- NewsGrazer, a NeXTstep(tm) news reader, posting -- M>UQR=&8P7&%N<VE[7&9O;G1T8FQ<9C!<9FUO9&5R;B!#;W5R:65R.WT*7&UA M<F=L,3(P"EQM87)G<C$R,`I<<&%R9%QT>#$Q-3)<='@R,S`T7'1X,S0U-EQT M>#0V,#A<='@U-S8P7'1X-CDQ,EQT>#@P-C1<='@Y,C$V7'1X,3`S-CA<='@Q M,34R,%QF,%QB,%QI,%QU;&YO;F5<9G,R-%QF8S!<8V8P($EN(&%R=&EC;&4@ M/#)D;')S8B0R<SA`='5R:6XN<F5S96%R8V@N;W1C+F-O;2YA=3X@86QE>&M` M<W=D978N<F5S96%R8V@N;W1C+F-O;2YA=2`H06QE>"!+;W=A;&5N:V\I('=R M:71E<SI<"CX@27,@=&AE<F4@82!P=6)L:6-A;&QY(&%V86QI86)L92!8<V5R M=F5R(&9O<B!.95A4+"!S;VUE(&AO=R!D97)V:79E9"!F<F]M('1H92!8,3%< M"CX@<V]U<F-E<R`H4C4L(%(T*2Y<"CX@7`H^($D@:VYO=R!T:&%T('1H870@ M=&AE<F4@87)E(&-O;6UE<FEC86P@6"!P<F]D=6-T<R!F;W(@6"P@8G5T($D@ M=V%S('=O;F1E<FEN9R!I9B!T:&%T7`H^(&EF('1H92!8('-O=7)C97,@:&%D M(&$@3F585"!8<V5R=F5R("AF<F]M(&$@<75I8VL@9VQA;F-E(&ET(&AA<VXG M="D@;W(@=&AA="!S;VUE;VYE7`H^(&AA9"!R96QE87-E9"!A;B!A9&1E;F1U M;2!T;R!T:&4@<W1A<F1A<F0@6"!S;W5R8V4@<F5L96%S97,N("A8,3%2-2DN M7`I<"E!A<G1I86P@06YS=V5R.EP*7`IC<RYO<G-T+F5D=2P@+W!U8B]N97AT M+UA.95A4+TUC1VEL;"U8+G!K9RYT87(@8V]N=&%I;G,@=&AE($UC1VEL;"!M M;W5S95@N("!)="!I<R!V97)Y(&5A<WD@=&\@:6YS=&%L;"!A;F0@96YA8FQE M<R!Y;W4@=&\@<G5N(%@@<')O9W)A;7,@;VX@;W1H97(@;6%C:&EN97,@86YD M('!O<G0@=&AE(&=R87!H:6-S(&]V97(@=&AE(&YE="!T;R!Y;W5R($YE6%0@ M*&EF('EO=2=V92!G;W0@86X@171H97)N970@:&]O:W5P*2X@($ET(&%P<&%R M96YT;'D@9&]E<VX@;F]T(&-O;G1A:6X@86QL('1H92!N96-E<W-A<GD@9FEL M97,@=&\@8V]M<&EL92!8('!R;V=R86US(&]N('1H92!.95A4+EP*7`I&=7)T M:&5R(%%U97-T:6]N<R!O;B!3=6)J96-T.EP*7`IC<RYO<G-T+F5D=2!H87,@ M=&AE($UC1VEL;"!M;W5S95@@;65N=&EO;F5D(&%B;W9E+"!S;VUE=&AI;F<@ M8V%L;&5D(%@Q,5(U+4UO=7-E6"UV,BXS+"!A;F0@82!S=&EL;"!A;F]T:&5R M(&9O;&1E<B!C86QL960@;6]U<V58(&-O;G1A:6YI;F<@<V]M92!R871H97(@ M:&%R9"!T;R!A<W-E;6)L92!-250@8V]D92X@(%=H870G<R!T:&4@9&5A;"!H M97)E/R`@2&%V92!T:')E92!D:69F97)E;G0@9W)O=7!S('-I;7!L>2!C:&]S M96X@=&AE('-A;64@;F%M92!F;W(@9&EF9F5R96YT($YE6%0@6"!V97)S:6]N M<RP@;W(@87)E('1H92!V97)S:6]N<R!R96QA=&5D/UP*7`I$;V5S(&%N>2!S M:&%R97=A<F4@3F585"!8('-O9G1W87)E(&-O;G1A:6X@86QL(&-O9&4@;F5C M97-S87)Y('1O(&-O;7!I;&4@86YD(')U;B!M>2!O=VX@6"!S;V9T=V%R92!O M;B!M>2!.95A4/UP*7`HM+2!4;V1D(%1A:VME;EP*("`@=&%K:V5N0&QE;&%N 39"YS=&%N9F]R9"YE9'5<"@I]"F1D `
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: manroe@manki.toppoint.de(Manfred Roehr) Subject: CD free NeXT soft JANA when does it ship????? Message-ID: <CHGABH.AK@manki.toppoint.de> Sender: manroe@manki.toppoint.de (Manfred Roehr) Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1993 08:30:53 GMT Hello, a month ago there was following announcement from: - next@jana.com (Next) - Subject: Re: FREE NeXT Software on CD-ROM's. CD cost less then $10 which I have ordered and this order also was confirmed. But until today I have heard nothing about it! A demand 14 days after to next@jana.com brought no answer! Does anybody know about it? thanks Manfred ____________________________ _________________ Manfred Roehr e-mail: manroe@toppoint.de Elisabethstrasse 88 fax: +49 431 733 483 24143 Kiel phone: +49 431 73 45 39 Germany____________________ NeXT-mail welcome_
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy From: ludwig@well.sf.ca.us (Michael Rutchik) Subject: Re: Features of Tailor.app that I want to see in all other apps. Message-ID: <CHGCzI.3wG@well.sf.ca.us> Keywords: Tailor, PostScript, Editor Sender: news@well.sf.ca.us Organization: The Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link, Sausalito, CA References: <2djjrv$khj@agate.berkeley.edu> Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1993 09:28:30 GMT >In all drawing apps I have used, in order to edit members of a >grouped object, you have to ungroup it first. Tailor lets you >"enter" a group and let you edit its members without breaking the >grouping. I want to see that in Virtuoso and other apps. This feature is actually handled quit gracefully in Virtuoso. Using Alt and Alt-Shift key modifiers it is quite easy to select individual points, objects and subgroups of a group without ungrouping. One can also modify elements within a compound path (Join Elements) without having to split the elements. While we're wishing though, I would like to see Virtuoso implement one aspect of Illustrators text handling which would make it so much more pleasurable to use: Let me have the option to simply click the text tool anywhere and start typing without creating a text-block with tabs! While the formatting options available within that fancy text-block are a god-send when appropriate, they're a big pain in the butt most other times. Also multi-color (3 or more) blends and the blend-drag tool would be welcome additions. Oh, and just one more thing: can we save the file with an eps header instead of creating a separate eps file? Also, I could mention Illustrator 5 compatability but Lorin informs me they're already working on it. (Freehand for NS/FIP?) Anyhow, I look forward to anymore postings on tailor. It is beginning to sound like my next purchase. Michael Rutchik Clorox Graphics ludwig@well.sf.ca.us
From: lauer@informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (Harald Lauer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: CD free NeXT soft JANA when does it ship???? Date: 3 Dec 1993 10:20:52 GMT Organization: University of Tuebingen Distribution: world Message-ID: <2dn3u4$59u@peanuts.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de> References: <CHGABH.AK@manki.toppoint.de> In article AK@manki.toppoint.de, manroe@manki.toppoint.de(Manfred Roehr) writes: >Hello, > >a month ago there was following announcement from: > > - next@jana.com (Next) - >Subject: Re: FREE NeXT Software on CD-ROM's. CD cost less then $10 > >which I have ordered and this order also was confirmed. But until today >I have heard nothing about it! >A demand 14 days after to next@jana.com brought no answer! Does >anybody know about it? I'm too waiting for this CD's. Recently there were people complaining about JANA (unreadable CD's) so I hope the delay is due to correcting their errors. Mayby someone from JANA can confirm this or else say what takes them so long. Bye, Harald --- Harald Lauer Those health nuts will look Wilhelm-Schickard Institut fuer Informatik stupid someday, lying in Universitaet Tuebingen hospital dying of nothing. Sand 13, 72076 Tuebingen, Germany lauer@informatik.uni-tuebingen.de
From: kdb@sunbar.mc.duke.edu (Kurt D. Bollacker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: CD free NeXT soft JANA when does it ship????? Date: 3 Dec 1993 09:44:59 GMT Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas Message-ID: <2dn1qr$f2u@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> References: <CHGABH.AK@manki.toppoint.de> Manfred Roehr (manroe@manki.toppoint.de) wrote: : Hello, : a month ago there was following announcement from: : : - next@jana.com (Next) - : Subject: Re: FREE NeXT Software on CD-ROM's. CD cost less then $10 : which I have ordered and this order also was confirmed. But until today : I have heard nothing about it! : A demand 14 days after to next@jana.com brought no answer! Does : anybody know about it? I sent them mail. They responded saying that they were going to "sell" all of the CD's before they shipped any. They guessed they would start shipping in Early December. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + Kurt D. Bollacker University of Texas at Austin + + kdb@pine.ece.utexas.edu P.O. Box 8566, Austin, TX 78713 + ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Features of Tailor.app that I want to see in all other apps. Date: 3 Dec 1993 09:46:15 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Distribution: world Message-ID: <2dn1t7$gbl@agate.berkeley.edu> References: <CHGCzI.3wG@well.sf.ca.us> In article <CHGCzI.3wG@well.sf.ca.us> ludwig@well.sf.ca.us (Michael Rutchik) writes: >>In all drawing apps I have used, in order to edit members of a >>grouped object, you have to ungroup it first. Tailor lets you >>"enter" a group and let you edit its members without breaking the >>grouping. I want to see that in Virtuoso and other apps. > >This feature is actually handled quit gracefully in Virtuoso. Using Alt and >Alt-Shift key modifiers it is quite easy to select individual points, >objects and subgroups of a group without ungrouping. One can also modify >elements within a compound path (Join Elements) without having to split the >elements. Thank you and Lorin for pointing it out for me. Actually, I was missing a whole array of good features that are activated with Alt, Shift, Control keys with mouse ops. Better read the FM sometime. However, it doesn't seem possible to add a new object into a group, i.e., not everything you can do outside a group can be done into grouped objects in Virtuoso. So, I think there is still a point for the concept of "entering" a group, which will make the entered group a new playing field where you can do everything you can outside. -- Izumi Ohzawa [ $@Bg_78^=;(J ] USMail: University of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720 Telephone: (510) 642-6440 Fax: (510) 642-3323 Internet: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (NeXTMail OK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: lmccullo@nyx.cs.du.edu (Michael McCulloch) Subject: Re: Windows apps that _won't_ run under SoftPC Message-ID: <1993Dec3.150557.17941@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> of Denver for the Denver community. The University has neither control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users. Sender: usenet@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu (netnews admin account) Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept. References: <CHE6FA.JFx@nimno.wpa.com> Date: Fri, 3 Dec 93 15:05:57 GMT In article <CHE6FA.JFx@nimno.wpa.com>, John Bartley <john@wpa.com> wrote: > I was disappointed to read recently that the Windows version of FrameMaker > couldn't run under SoftPC on white hardware. All this time I was under the > impression (wrongly, it seems) that the new Intel version of SoftPC would > allow full use of Windows. The restrictions on enhanced mode (or whatever > it is called) didn't occur to me, and I had been planning on being able to > use the Windows version of Frame under SoftPC. Yeah, I can't run MathCAD (which I already suspected), nor can I run Improv for Windows. So now I can run Solitaire along with all those great DOS apps??? What's the use... Also, when I mount my DOS partition on the boot driver, several directories appear to be empty under SoftPC. When the DOS partition is unmounted from SoftPC, all the files appear fine in the WorkSpace. > If major, "desirable" Windows apps are not going to be executable under > SoftPC, what's the point of it existing? Sort of like designing the > world's best car except that you deliberately leave off the 4th wheel > since it was just too difficult to design with all four. > > Why does the enhanced mode limitation exist, and is it permanent for > SoftPC or just a temprary condition? Dont' know, but if this doesn't change, then SoftPC is worthless to me. Is this the same company doing the emulation for NT? Does NT have the same limitation? My guess is NOT. Draw your own conclusions. -- Michael McCulloch michael@hsv.tybrin.com (NextMail Accepted!) Huntsville, Alabama
From: coullet@sucre.unice.fr (Pierre Coullet) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bug,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: TOUCH Date: 3 Dec 1993 16:43:15 GMT Organization: University of Nice Sophia-Antipolis Message-ID: <2dnqb3$dp0@taloa.unice.fr> We have a lot of problems using TOUCH (NFS mounting). Is there a new version of the soft working fine ?
From: luomat@alleg.edu (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Wrapping overlong lines in Terminal.app -- solved Date: 3 Dec 1993 16:03:28 GMT Organization: Allegheny College Distribution: world Message-ID: <2dno0g$4id@ftp.alleg.edu> References: <CHFsL9.8Br@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU> yes, ps -auxw solves the problem I was having. Thanks to all those who sent suggestions! TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College, Meadville PA USA Using: NS 3.1 Black NeXT Mail Welcomed
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: josh@vegiwopr.calpoly.edu (Josh) Subject: Re: DOOM for NeXT - Networking Message-ID: <1993Dec03.153625.123612@zeus.aix.calpoly.edu> Sender: news@zeus.calpoly.edu Organization: Cal Poly State University, San Luis Obispo References: <CHCHq2.BHH@unix.portal.com> Date: Fri, 03 Dec 1993 15:36:25 GMT I tried to get Doom to work in 2 bit grey - didn't work :( Was worth a try though :) (gave me a "Bus error" if anyone cares). BUT I did notice: D_CheckNetGame: Checking network game status. I haven't seen anything about Doom on the NeXT before, so I don't know what to think of this - does this mean Doom via Internet?? Will I be able to play with multiple people around the Net (I have an ethernet hookup on my NFSIP box) ?? Hopefully I'll be able to afford 32bit graphics in my lifetime :) josh@vegiwopr.calpoly.edu NeXTMail & MIME ok
From: erikkay@next.com (Erik Kay) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Accessing DOS partition from NEXTSTEP Date: 2 Dec 1993 20:03:03 GMT Organization: NeXT, Inc. Message-ID: <2dlhln$3fl@rosie.next.com> References: <2diteg$al1@news.acns.nwu.edu> In article <2diteg$al1@news.acns.nwu.edu> jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss) writes: > In article <CHBH46.G53@sybase.com>, Michael Brill <brill@sybase.com> wrote: > >Is it possible to access a DOS FAT partition on my hard disk while in > >NEXTSTEP? I remember reading about this, but didn't find any mention > >of it in the documentation. > > > > You might want to look at your root directory for a folder with the > same label name as the dos partition (or "noname" if its blank). It > should be mounted automagically. This is probably true only if > the dos partition is the first on the drive. If its not there check > the console messages for errors. another way to find out what DOS partitions are currently mounted on your machine is to type df -t dos in a terminal window. This will list all mounted DOS filesystems on your machine. You can also use this for other foreign filesystem types. Here's an excerpt from the mount man page on the names of the types: -t The next argument is the filesystem type. The accepted types are 4.3, nfs, dos, macintosh, nucfs (NetWare UNIX Client file system), and cfs (CD-ROM file system). See fstab(5) for a description of these filesystem types. hope that helps, Erik
From: burton@het.brown.edu (Joshua W. Burton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Informer.app for 2.1? Date: 3 Dec 1993 18:35:38 GMT Organization: Brown University Message-ID: <2do0tq$j83@cat.cis.Brown.EDU> There is a lovely-looking freeware gadget called Informer on the public FTP sites---in case you haven't seen it, it's a universal system-info inspector, with add-in modules for examining different internal stats. Sort of analogous to ImageViewer, Opener.app, and so on. Anyway, the author's README has a final P.S. to the effect that he has just recompiled under 3.0, and almost everything still works. From this I conclude that everything also worked under 2.x, which is what I am still (and probably forever...) running on my CD-less cube. The problem is that he only supplies a 3.0 binary (which dies under 2.1), and doesn't even give an email address where I can beg him for the original source. Searching through Archie got me a copy of Informer1.1.source.gnutar.Z, which seems to be a still later version. I spent an hour or two trying to compile this under 2.1 by fixing all the relocated #include's (_why_ couldn't NeXT leave them where they were?), but no joy. So: has anyone got (1) a working Informer.app that was compiled under NS 2.x; (2) old source for Informer.app that can be tweaked into compiling under 2.x, or (3) a pointer to the author of Informer.app, so that I can beg for (1) or (2) myself? Many thanks.... I silently laugh at my own cenotaph, +----------------------+ And out of the caverns of rain, | Joshua W. Burton | Like a child from the womb, | (401)435-6370 | like a ghost from the tomb, | burton@het.brown.edu | I arise and unbuild it again. -- Shelley, `The Cloud' +----------------------+
From: gt6963c@prism.gatech.EDU (Oberon) Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Some questions about NeXTStep Programs (Intel) Keywords: Nova, Serial, Communications, SoftPC Message-ID: <126630@hydra.gatech.EDU> Date: 3 Dec 93 17:23:14 GMT Followup-To: comp.soft-sys.nextstep Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology I have a few questions.. most are quick, some are not. 1) Is the Nova CD-ROM for NeXT for Blackware only (it looks a little old), or is it for both, or is it source, or what? 2) I have an internal modem.. and NS/I doesn't have serial drivers for anything other than 2 onboard serial ports. Even tho my computer (a gateway 2000) lets me diable one of the ports, and have the modem respond as either com1 or com2, this doesn't work with nextstep. So, I guess I need a serial driver for my internal modem.. or some sort of driver... does anyone know of one? 3) Communication: the booklet on 3rd party software companies that came with NS/I 3.1 listed a couple terminal emulation communicatins programs that do all of hte neat stuff like zmodem, etc.. Does anyone know of a freeware/net version of these? Or do any of the commercial ones come wiht support for internal modems? Also, does anyone know of a copy of SLIP or PPP that works on NS/I (again, freeware/net version pref.) 4) Is there a way to get SoftPC to use my real dos partition as its C drive, instead of assigning it to another drive letter? (and then put the \insignia directory soemwhere else) Thanks.. just to be sure i get the replies, please email them to me. John
From: Tim Pugh <tpugh@oce.orst.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Why not two (or four) docks? Date: 3 Dec 1993 19:53:39 GMT Organization: University Computing Services - Oregon State University Distribution: world Message-ID: <2do5g3$ner@gaia.ucs.orst.edu> References: <2dl9s6$1bt@agate.berkeley.edu> In article <2dl9s6$1bt@agate.berkeley.edu> izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa) writes: > > I am using Locus, and quite happy with it. But I want NeXT to expand > the Dock by 4 times within Workspace Manager. > It can be done without changing the appearance of the current dock > one bit: > > The dock can simulate a 4-sided thin rectangular block (pole) that > can be rotated around the vertical axis. Dragging action to left > or right in the NeXT icon will rotate the block and will let the > user select a face. > Perhaps the NeXT icon can have a little number in the corner > indicating the current face. > Nice idea. However, instead of dragging, place two triangles or arrows in the Workspace icon that the user clicks to turn the pole a particular direction. Animate the pole turning when clicked. The beginnings of a 3-D workspace. -------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Pugh email: tpugh@oce.orst.edu Oceanic and Atmospheric Sciences voice: 503-737-2270 Oregon State University fax: 503-737-2064 NeXTmail ok!
From: wrb@biostr.washington.edu (William Barker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Why not two (or four) docks? Date: 3 Dec 1993 20:25:48 GMT Organization: University of Washington Distribution: world Message-ID: <2do7cc$bv2@news.u.washington.edu> References: <2do5g3$ner@gaia.ucs.orst.edu> In article <2do5g3$ner@gaia.ucs.orst.edu> Tim Pugh <tpugh@oce.orst.edu> writes: > In article <2dl9s6$1bt@agate.berkeley.edu> izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi > Ohzawa) writes: > > > > I am using Locus, and quite happy with it. But I want NeXT to expand > > the Dock by 4 times within Workspace Manager. > > It can be done without changing the appearance of the current dock > > one bit: > > > > The dock can simulate a 4-sided thin rectangular block (pole) that > > can be rotated around the vertical axis. Dragging action to left > > or right in the NeXT icon will rotate the block and will let the > > user select a face. > > Perhaps the NeXT icon can have a little number in the corner > > indicating the current face. > > > > Nice idea. However, instead of dragging, place two triangles or arrows in the > Workspace icon that the user clicks to turn the pole a particular direction. > Animate the pole turning when clicked. > > The beginnings of a 3-D workspace. > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Tim Pugh email: tpugh@oce.orst.edu > Oceanic and Atmospheric Sciences voice: 503-737-2270 > Oregon State University fax: 503-737-2064 > NeXTmail ok! Or check out Engage! Desktop from Millennium Software. Does most of what everyone has been talking about. Nice product...can't live without it now. Contact info@millennium.com for more info. Just another satisfied customer of Jason and the Gang. bb -- Bill Barker Biological Structure, SM-20 University of Washington Seattle WA 98195 (206) 543-7315 "In Wine there is Wisdom, In Beer there is Strength; In Water is Bacteria." --Old German Saying.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller) Subject: Cube Technologies... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Organization: Gerhard Moeller, German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg. Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1993 20:02:37 GMT Message-ID: <1993Dec3.200237.1465@proximus.north.de> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable World, does anyone out there know what's happened to Cube Technologies, Inc., Andrew Loewenstern? They once promised the UserGroups a program, called "Stylist"... Gerhard. -- +---------------------------< principiis obsta! >---------------------------+ N Gerhard Moeller, Hetzg. 32/11, A-1030 Wien (Austria) [*: 02/21/1968] N e Private: gemoe@proximus.north.de Phone (voice): +43-1-7151531 e X Uni: Gerhard.Moeller@arbi.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE NeXTmail X T Z-Net: Gerhard.Moeller@uniol.zer encouraged! T +-> NoGeNUG - Northern German NeXT User Group: NoGeNUG@proximus.north.DE <-+
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: leej@tch15.cs.jmu.edu (jiyub lee ) Subject: ImageViewer for NS/FIP Message-ID: <CHH7p9.vt@hub.cs.jmu.edu> Summary: ImageViewer for NS/FIP Keywords: ImageViewer Sender: newsusr@hub.cs.jmu.edu (USENET News System) Organization: James Madison University Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1993 20:31:56 GMT Is there an image viewer for white box running NS3.x? The previewer can only view tiff files and other sharewares on the net are all for the black box. I think it is a very basic capability to be able to view gif or jpg files on any platform. Am I overlooking something basic? I hope somebody would enlighten me on this matter. Also is there a movie viewer on the NeXT for intel? (like QuickTime for Mac or Movie Player for windows or os/2) I hope this is not a silly question. Please email me if you have any info. Help greatly appreciated, Jiyub leej@sunrise.cs.jmu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: ptuomola@echelon.hacktic.nl (Petri Tuomola) Subject: Re: Public X11 for Next References: <2dlrsb$2s8@turin.research.otc.com.au> <1993Dec3.071806.6745@leland.stanford.edu> Organization: /usr/lib/news/organi[sz]ation Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1993 21:24:20 GMT Message-ID: <CHHA50.rI@echelon.hacktic.nl> In article <1993Dec3.071806.6745@leland.stanford.edu>, Todd Takken <takken@raven.Stanford.EDU> wrote: > >Does any shareware NeXT X software contain all code necessary to >compile and run my own X software on my NeXT? > I found X11R5 for NeXT at ftp.funet.fi, in directory /pub/next/XNeXT/X11R5. It seems to me that you can compile X software using libraries in that package, although I can't test it 'cause I don't have a NeXT at the moment. Here is the README from the package: -- CUT -- *** Alternative distribution of compiled X11 R5 tree for NeXT 2.[01] *** The two tarfiles contain the following: 1) X-app.tar.Z - the Next App front end for starting X. Grab this one and put it in ~/Apps or /LocalApps. 2) X11R5-complete.tar.Z - All binaries, libraries, include files, config files, and library files (such as App defaults) for use with (the included) Xnext server. All man pages are included as well. Some extra binaries, such as Xxgdb, are included as well, as is the R4 server (Xnext). After grabbing one of these two, install it somewhere where you can back it up easily. I use /usr/local/XR5. It will untar into 5 directories: bin, include, lib, man, and usr.lib. Make symbolic links from bin, include, and lib, to /usr/bin/X11, /usr/include/X11, and /usr/lib/X11. Make a link from man to /usr/man/mann. If you plan to compile X software, link each of the libs in usr.lib individually into /usr/lib. This is the monochrome version of Xnext. To run the color one, just substitute the new binary (after getting it off the Net) for Xnext in bin. Only do this if you have a color non-NextDimension machine. Make sure to do "chmod ugo+rw /dev/vid0" as root before you start. If you wish to tailor your installation, it should be easy to do once it is untarred. This version is run via double-clicking on the X front-end icon. This calls the standard xinit program. All user customization should be done in your local .xinitrc file (see the man page for xinit). The X root window is hidden via the "hot-key" combination command-command-delete or command-command-*. Double-click on the the icon to re-display the root window. Do not use the Xnext binary directly! If there are any problems with specific binaries or programs complaining about missing files, send me mail. Please, no questions about using Xnext or X. Read the man page on xinit to determine how to configure your local environment -- the X front end starts xinit first. The man page for "X" is helpful too. Douglas Scott Center for Computer Music Research and Composition University of California, Santa Barbara Internet: (NeXTMail ok) <doug@foxtrot.ucsb.edu> -- CUT -- Hope this helps... Petri -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Petri Tuomola (root@echelon.hacktic.nl) (ptuomola@hacktic.nl) "Get stoned - drink wet concrete" HAM: OH2LJY
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: gtoews@fulford.UVic.CA (Greg Toews) Subject: Re: NSFMP: 3.1, 3.2 vs. 3.0 Message-ID: <1993Dec3.210358.27254@sol.UVic.CA> Sender: news@sol.UVic.CA Organization: University of Victoria References: <2dmeqn$c4c@agate.berkeley.edu> Date: Fri, 3 Dec 93 21:03:58 GMT Jessica L. Mosher writes > > Hi there. I'm not a commercial software developer, just a student, and > I'm curious about what is, or has proven to be, improved in NS 3.1 and 3.2 > over 3.0. The installation instructions for 3.1 seemed daunting and 3.2 > looks like it doesn't deal well with hard disk partitions. I have seen a > lot of posts about problems, but the only improvements I've read about is > that the Workspace clock keeps better time and that .gz files can be > unpacked. > > In short: Why should I upgrade? Besides state-of-the-art rhetoric, > etc... > The login screen is new and very nice looking, the login panel screen saver is very neat, and the bootup sequence has a sliding bar to indicate how far along you are. -:) P.S. I went from 2.2 to 3.2 so I'm not sure if all of these are new, but I haven't seen any of them on the 3.0 machine I'm on right now.
From: texpert@math.lsu.edu (TeX Support) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: [Q] Where can I get "inews" and "nn"? Date: 3 Dec 1993 22:42:55 GMT Organization: Louisiana State University InterNetNews Site(test mode) Message-ID: <2dofdf$1d60@te6000.otc.lsu.edu> Hello. We are using NewsGrazer, but some users would like to use a unix news client when they call from home. I understand that at least two programs, namely "rn" and "nn", do this job reasonably well. We have the source to "rn", but cannot compile it without something called "inews". I do not know how to get this "inews", nor can I locate the source to "nn", which some users have specifically requested. In case it makes a difference, our department does not have a direct news feed; instead, the news server sits somewhere else on campus. So here are my questions: 1) What is "inews" and where can I get it? 2) Where can I get "nn"? 3) Do you have any comments or suggestions? Any help (please email me) highly appreciated. Alexander Perlis TeX Support Dude (and unexpectedly also Usenet-news-support-dude-to-be) Louisiana State University Math Department
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: andrew@stone.com (Andrew Stone) Subject: Re: Windows apps that _won't_ run under SoftPC Message-ID: <1993Dec3.160047.322@stone.com> Sender: andrew@stone.com Organization: Stone Design Corp References: <CHE6FA.JFx@nimno.wpa.com> Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1993 16:00:47 GMT In article <CHE6FA.JFx@nimno.wpa.com> john@wpa.com (John Bartley) writes: > I was disappointed to read recently that the Windows version of FrameMaker > couldn't run under SoftPC on white hardware. All this time I was under the > impression (wrongly, it seems) that the new Intel version of SoftPC would > allow full use of Windows. The restrictions on enhanced mode (or whatever > it is called) didn't occur to me, and I had been planning on being able to > use the Windows version of Frame under SoftPC. > > I also need to run Microsoft Project under SoftPC - does anybody know if > this is going to be a problem? > > If major, "desirable" Windows apps are not going to be executable under > SoftPC, what's the point of it existing? Sort of like designing the > world's best car except that you deliberately leave off the 4th wheel > since it was just too difficult to design with all four. > > Why does the enhanced mode limitation exist, and is it permanent for > SoftPC or just a temprary condition? It's definitely a blessing for NEXTSTEP Third party developers - the slower and buggier Windows apps are on NEXTSTEP, the more little shivers of joy run up and down my spine! andrew -- ||<<->>||<<==>>||<<++>>||<<?>>||<<+>>||<<-->>||<<==>>||<<+>>|| !! Andrew Stone !! (505) 345-4800 !! !! andrew@stone.com <> Stone Design Corp !! ||<<->>||<<==>>||<<++>>||<<?>>||<<+>>||<<-->>||<<==>>||<<+>>||
From: a5g192@rick.cs.ubc.ca (Wei-Yuen Tan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Util for converting .snd <==> .wav ? Date: 4 Dec 1993 00:58:34 -0800 Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada Distribution: world Message-ID: <2dpjfqINNo0u@gambier.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca> Does anyone know of a utility for converting between .au or .snd formats and .wav formats for sound files? If you actually have a OS 2.1 binary, please send it to me (by NeXTmail) if possible, to a5g192@scheme.cs.ubc.ca.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: (slugg jello) Subject: OpenStep and object-oriented file systems? Message-ID: <1993Dec4.083404.8740@mouthers.nwnexus.wa.com> Sender: slugg@mouthers.nwnexus.wa.com Organization: Mouthing Flowers References: <1993Nov27.061940.26832@netnews.noc.drexel.edu> Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1993 08:34:04 GMT Eric M Hermanson (zmonster@ATHENA.MIT.EDU) wrote: : OpenStep includes the full NEXTSTEP GUI. Part of the OpenStep spec is that it : retains the same appearance and behavior as NEXTSTEP. : Here's specifically what the spec will include at the minimum (I may have : left something out here): : * DisplayPostscript : * Distributed Objects : * the AppKit : * Databasekit : * Objective-C I wonder where a specification for an object-oriented file system fits into all this. Perhaps that is considered part of the operating system and thus is not subject to the standard. Or perhaps because it is (rumored to be) part of NS4.0 it is something that would be tackled in a more future OpenStep augmentation. Sure would be nice to get it all in at once. Microsoft is already pushing their "DocFile" concept of an object-oriented file system. -- Doug Kent Mouthing Flowers, Inc. slugg@mouthers.wa.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: chipsig@kaiwan.com (<Chip> H. Sieglinger) Subject: NxFax; problem faxing Message-ID: <CHHMsD.6FA@kaiwan.com> Organization: KAIWAN Internet Access (310-527-4279,714-539-0829,830-6061,818-579-6701) Distribution: usa Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1993 01:57:49 GMT I've just reinstalled NxFax on a black machine, and once the getty problem was solved, everything worked as advertised in regard to incoming faxes. Now I can't send faxes. I get the following message: "The InterFace Builder file NxFaxPanel cannot be loaded" I'm stumped, and the online help for NxFax doesn't cover this message. Anyone know what it means? Thanks Chip
From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Windows apps that _won't_ run under SoftPC Date: 4 Dec 93 09:47:22 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <jeffo.754998442@uiuc.edu> References: <CHE6FA.JFx@nimno.wpa.com> <1993Dec3.160047.322@stone.com> Andrew Stone writes: >It's definitely a blessing for NEXTSTEP Third party developers - the >slower and buggier Windows apps are on NEXTSTEP, the more little shivers >of joy run up and down my spine! So, does this mean that there will be a long and regular DTP app for NS from Stone Design? Seems Pages is still not shipping Pages (even though they advertise to the contrary) and PasteUp could use some competition (when PasteUp gets long and regular DTP capability). Sure is a shame to see a machine with such DTP possibility rot because of a lack of apps. -- J.B. Nicholson-Owens (*NO* NeXTmail please)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jashley@cs.indiana.edu (J. Michael Ashley) Subject: screensavers for intel hardware Message-ID: <CHIMG5.KK5@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> Sender: news@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Indiana University Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1993 14:48:04 GMT Is there a screensaver for Intel hardware? In particular, one that works while the user is logged in. Thanks Mike Ashley
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Why not two (or four) docks? Date: 4 Dec 1993 15:34:24 -0000 Organization: me organized? That's a joke! Message-ID: <2dqam0$3e8@steffi.demon.co.uk> References: <2dl9s6$1bt@agate.berkeley.edu> <2dmlta$sas@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> don@b62178.student.CWRU.edu wrote >In article <2dkb4s$ft2@ftp.alleg.edu> luomat@alleg.edu (Timothy J. Luoma) >writes: > >[MUNCH] >> The dock can simulate a 4-sided thin rectangular block (pole) that >> can be rotated around the vertical axis. Dragging action to left >> or right in the NeXT icon will rotate the block and will let the >> user select a face. >> Perhaps the NeXT icon can have a little number in the corner >> indicating the current face. > >THIS IS AN EXCELLENT IDEA!!!!!!!! > > >don... Also have the workspace do the same but have a sided cube. rotating on both X and Y axis. Now that would look nice.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software From: jhfreeman@iworks.ecn.uiowa.edu (James H Freeman) Subject: Compiling httpd_1.05a and undefined symbols Summary: putenv, waitpid undefined sysmbols Sender: news@news.uiowa.edu (News) Message-ID: <1993Dec4.162419.24905@news.uiowa.edu> Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1993 16:24:19 GMT Organization: Cornell College Keywords: httpd_1.05a Followup-To: freeman@Cornell-Iowa.edu Any help would be appreciated on compiling httpd_1.05a on 3.1 black hardware. Editing the makefile in the obvious manner results in compiling all source files. Unfortunately the link phase dies with undefined symbols for putenv and waitpid. Checking the include files indicates the version of waitpid is for POSIX code. I therefore assume that I do not have the proper system library loaded. The Digital Librarian hasn't been any help on this topic. Any advice on the correct library or a workaround for the problem would be appreciated. (FYI: putenv occurs a total of 4 times and waitpid twice in the source files.) Please use the address freeman@Cornell-Iowa.edu to respond as I can't post to these newsgroups from my campus and am using an account at the University of Iowa. Thank you. James H. Freeman Assoc. Prof. of Math Cornell College freeman@Cornell-Iowa.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: mark@cyantic.com (Mark T. Dornfeld) Subject: SoftPC on Moto 3.2 Organization: CYANTIC Systems Date: Sat, 04 Dec 1993 17:07:27 GMT Message-ID: <1993Dec04.170727.12730@cyantic.com> I have been trying to get the SoftPC demo loaded on NS 3.2 Black. When it starts, it asks for a number of settings under the heading "Preferences Problem". It accepts all the entries except the value of DOS_Drive_C. The default value is /LocalApps/SoftPC.app/hard_disk.hdf, but since I installed the program in /NextDeveloper/Demos, this setting is inappropriate. When I try to set up the disk in $HOME/hard_disk.hdf, it will not accept the value and I have to quit unable to run the software. How does one get around this problem? Thanks -- Mark T. Dornfeld, CYANTIC Systems Voice: (416) 234-9048 101 Subway Crescent Suite 2103 Facsimile: (416) 234-0477 Etobicoke, Ontario, M9B 6K4 CANADA Email: mark@cyantic.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: tjhendry@mcs.drexel.edu (Jonathan Hendry) Subject: Re: OpenStep and object-oriented file systems? Message-ID: <1993Dec4.183246.20343@netnews.noc.drexel.edu> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Sender: news@netnews.noc.drexel.edu Organization: Drexel University, Dept. of Math. and Comp. Sci. References: <1993Nov27.061940.26832@netnews.noc.drexel.edu> <1993Dec4.083404.8740@mouthers.nwnexus.wa.com> Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1993 18:32:46 GMT slugg jello () wrote: :I wonder where a specification for an object-oriented file system fits into all :this. Perhaps that is considered part of the operating system and thus is not : subject to the standard. Or perhaps because it is (rumored to be) part of : NS4.0 it is something that would be tackled in a more future OpenStep : augmentation. Sure would be nice to get it all in at once. Microsoft is : already pushing their "DocFile" concept of an object-oriented file system. I would imagine that NeXT plans on keeping the OOFS in NeXTSTEP as a means of differentiating it from the various OpenStep implementations. -- Jonathan W. Hendry Inexpensive NeXTSTEP Consulting tjhendry@mcs.drexel.edu For Your "Not-So-Mission-Critcal" Apps
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Michael_Pizolato@afs.com (Michael Pizolato) Subject: Re: Features of Tailor.app that I want to see in all other apps. Message-ID: <1993Dec2.135023.336@afs.com> Sender: Michael_Pizolato@afs.com References: <2djjrv$khj@agate.berkeley.edu> Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1993 13:50:23 GMT Izumi Ohzawa writes [snip...] >There are two pretty unique features [of Tailor.app] that I >particularly like which I would like to see incorporated in other >NEXTSTEP apps. So, let me state what they are so more developers >will implement them. > >[1] Multiple Views into a single document. [snip...] PasteUp and WriteUp both do this. >[2] Entering Groups without Ungrouping. [snip...] PasteUp doesn't do this, but we will look into adding it; there's no concept of "grouping" in WriteUp, so it doesn't apply. Also, while it's not strictly a drawing program, note that IB does this for grouped UI elements. Thanx, Michael -- Michael_Pizolato@afs.com "Schopenhauer's not as optimistic as Nietzsche, NeXTMail accepted but he makes up for it by being less cheerful than Kierkegaard." - Kim Pizolato
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.marketplace From: henry@trilithon.com (Henry McGilton) Subject: Postering or Tiling Software Message-ID: <1993Dec2.224506.12058@trilithon.com> Keywords: Postering Tiling LaserMaster Sender: henry@trilithon.com Organization: Trilithon Software Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1993 22:45:06 GMT One of my customers who doesn't have net access is looking for postering or tiling software to run on NEXTSTEP and drive LaserMaster large format printers. Or, software which will provide page sizes large enough to drive such devices. E-mail responses to me at henry@trilithon.com Thanks ........ Henry
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy From: roberto@SoftDesign.COM (Roberto Arrocha) Subject: Kodak Photo CD API Message-ID: <CHHBxK.29J@SoftDesign.COM> Keywords: Kodak Photo CD Sender: roberto@SoftDesign.COM (Roberto Arrocha) Organization: SoftDesign, Inc. Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1993 22:03:19 GMT What ever happened to the promise to release a Photo CD toolkit API? | NeXT Embraces Photo CD Multimedia Imaging Technology | SAN FRANCISCO, May 25, 1993 - [...] | NeXT is also porting Kodak's Photo CD Access Development Toolkit | for the NEXTSTEP environment. This toolkit, which will work like | any other object-oriented toolkit for NEXTSTEP, will allow | developers to incorporate Photo CD-based capabilities into any kind | of application. NeXT payed Kodak ~$100K in licensing fees for the source code, and seems to have decided to postpone releasing a toolkit API. The claim is lack of resources, and a refocused strategy (away from the desktop). Does anyone have any other clues as to the extended delay? Thanks. -- Roberto SoftDesign, Inc.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy From: roberto@SoftDesign.COM (Roberto Arrocha) Subject: Re: Kodak Photo CD API Message-ID: <CHIs59.2qv@SoftDesign.COM> Keywords: Kodak Photo CD Sender: roberto@SoftDesign.COM (Roberto Arrocha) Organization: SoftDesign, Inc. References: <CHHBxK.29J@SoftDesign.COM> Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1993 16:51:09 GMT Let me re-state my question below: - Is anyone else interested in a NeXT-version of Kodak's Photo CD toolkit? - Does anybody care about the delay? | What ever happened to the promise to release a Photo CD toolkit API? | | | NeXT Embraces Photo CD Multimedia Imaging Technology | | SAN FRANCISCO, May 25, 1993 - [...] | | NeXT is also porting Kodak's Photo CD Access Development Toolkit | | for the NEXTSTEP environment. This toolkit, which will work like | | any other object-oriented toolkit for NEXTSTEP, will allow | | developers to incorporate Photo CD-based capabilities into any kind | | of application. | | NeXT payed Kodak ~$100K in licensing fees for the source code, and seems | to have decided to postpone releasing a toolkit API. The claim is lack | of resources, and a refocused strategy (away from the desktop). | | Does anyone have any other clues as to the reasons behind the extended | delay? -- Roberto SoftDesign, Inc.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Ralph_Jung@radical.com (Ralph Jung) Subject: Re: Is 3.2 black out? Message-ID: <1993Dec3.220041.1675@radical2.radical.com> Sender: ralph@radical2.radical.com Organization: Radical System Solutions, Inc. References: <CHDEu5.921@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU> Distribution: usa Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1993 22:00:41 GMT In article <CHDEu5.921@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU> bobcook@slac.stanford.edu (Bob Cook) writes: > jamastro@indyvax.iupui.edu writes > > Is 3.2 for black hardware shipping yet? > > Yes. A number of people on the net have said so. And, I got mine (User and > Developer in one box) last Tuesday, 11/23. I did nothing except send in the > registration card when I got 3.1. > > > Do I still have to call and pester NeXT to get my free upgrade? > > Some have said that NeXT lost their registration. It certainly wouldn't hurt > to call and ask. > I received 3.2 for Intel User version on 11/22. No Developer version. I phoned NeXT on 11/29 and they had a record of my registration for 3.1 for Intel User and one Developer, but no record for 3.1 for NeXT User or the other Developer. I received 3.2 for NeXT User version today, 12/3. Still not a single developer version. (sigh) --- Ralph Jung ( Ralph_Jung@Radical.Com ) Radical System Solutions, Inc. NeXTmail accepted rad~i~cal \'rad-i-kel\ adj. - marked by a considerable departure from the usual or traditional: EXTREME
From: perkins@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Steve Perkins) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: EZ, andrew Message-ID: <Dec.4.15.38.49.1993.16215@andromeda.rutgers.edu> Date: 4 Dec 93 20:38:49 GMT Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J. Has anyone tried to compile the andrew wordprocessor ez for use under NSFIP? TIA for replies. Steven C. Perkins perkins@andromeda.rutgers.edu
From: zmonster@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Eric M Hermanson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Windows apps that _won't_ run under SoftPC Date: 4 Dec 1993 20:57:34 GMT Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology Message-ID: <2dqtju$42m@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> References: <CHE6FA.JFx@nimno.wpa.com> <1993Dec3.160047.322@stone.com> <jeffo.754998442@uiuc.edu> In article <jeffo.754998442@uiuc.edu> jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) writes: >Seems Pages is still not shipping Pages (even >though they advertise to the contrary) Yes, what the heck is up with this?! I critisize Microsoft for leading the public on, but I have never seen them say that something is shipping when in fact it is not. I can't believe Pages hasn't gotten sued for the false advertising they have been doing in NeXTWORLD for at least the last three months: NeXTWORLD Magazine, September 1993 p30, Pages ad: "Pages is Shipping!" NeXTWORLD Magazine, October 1993 p41, Pages ad: "Pages is Shipping!" NeXTWORLD Magazine, November 1993 p2, Pages ad: "Pages is Shipping!" Either ship the stupid thing, or change the ads. Eric
From: swift@acs3.nntp-read.bu.edu (Matthew Swift) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NSFMP: 3.1, 3.2 vs. 3.0 Date: 4 Dec 93 16:04:25 Organization: Boston University Information Technology Boston, MA USA Message-ID: <SWIFT.93Dec4160425@acs3.nntp-read.bu.edu> References: <2dmeqn$c4c@agate.berkeley.edu> <1993Dec3.210358.27254@sol.UVic.CA> In-reply-to: gtoews@fulford.UVic.CA's message of Fri, 3 Dec 93 21:03:58 GMT Is there really nothing but a bell and whistle here and there to recommend 3.2 over 3.0 for black hardware? Are the indexing utilities and Librarian still in a sorry state? Is there no new or improved networking capabilities? A native emacs? UNIX access to Webster files? Are mounted OD's and floppies still buggy as hell? Does loginwindow now break out of DefaultUser as advertised? How much missing documentation has been supplied? Where can I find out in detail what the difference between 3.2 and 3.0 FMP is? I don't see a NextAnswer.... Could the Release Notes be posted on the net legally, assuming they have any decent information? Is any of these changes worth hundreds of my dollars? Matthew Swift swift@bu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc From: mark@cyantic.com (Mark T. Dornfeld) Subject: PD SLIP for 3.2 Slab Organization: CYANTIC Systems Date: Sat, 04 Dec 1993 20:51:42 GMT Message-ID: <1993Dec04.205142.13385@cyantic.com> Where can I get SLIP for a NS 3.2 Slab? I'd prefer public domain, but will go commercial if the PD stuff doesn't work. I have an old version from the Walnut Creek Nova CD, but there must be something newer out there. Thanks -- Mark T. Dornfeld, CYANTIC Systems Voice: (416) 234-9048 101 Subway Crescent Suite 2103 Facsimile: (416) 234-0477 Etobicoke, Ontario, M9B 6K4 CANADA Email: mark@cyantic.com
From: maurices@spock.dis.cccd.edu (Maurice Shihadi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Is 3.2 black out? Date: 4 Dec 1993 12:42:31 -0800 Organization: Coast Community College District, Costa Mesa, CA Distribution: usa Message-ID: <2dqsnn$i00@spock.dis.cccd.edu> References: <CHDEu5.921@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU> <1993Dec3.220041.1675@radical2.radical.com> What number are we to call now? The first time I registered was by phone to the 1-800 number--"no problem". I called back to confirm a week later and there's no record. I called back again to register a second time and I was told my number was already being used. I faxed my registration and called back to confirm--"no problem". Still, no upgrade. I don't mind the wait at all but last week I called again (the 1-800 number) and no one could help me unless I called back on a 415 number. Again, "no record". This is real inconvenient when calling from a public school that locks out long distance calls. Consistency would have been nice but then again order management may just living up to my expectations. maurices
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: mark@cyantic.com (Mark T. Dornfeld) Subject: UUNET FTP server and cs.orst.edu Organization: CYANTIC Systems Date: Sat, 04 Dec 1993 21:03:52 GMT Message-ID: <1993Dec04.210352.13634@cyantic.com> I have tried to get file listings from cs.orst.edu using the UUNET FTP server. The command "list /ftp/cs.orst.edu/next" returns nothing. I'd like to have access to these archives, but if this doesn't work I'm out of luck. I also tried to get Kperfmon, but had no success. I don't think the server can read the subdirectories on that system. -- Mark T. Dornfeld, CYANTIC Systems Voice: (416) 234-9048 101 Subway Crescent Suite 2103 Facsimile: (416) 234-0477 Etobicoke, Ontario, M9B 6K4 CANADA Email: mark@cyantic.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: john@wpa.com (John Bartley) Subject: SGML tools for NeXTSEP Message-ID: <CHJ9EA.90s@nimno.wpa.com> Sender: john@nimno.wpa.com (John Bartley) Organization: Workgroup Productivity Associates Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1993 23:03:42 GMT Does anyone have a current listing of tools that are available today (beta counts!!) for NeXTSTEP for handling SGML? I seem to recall one app that was in the design stages a couple of years ago, but I don't think it ever came to market. Are there any NeXTSTEP/SGML experts in the audience who could point me towards one or more packages? I'd like to hear of any experiences you've had in a NS environment. John Bartley john@wpa.com
From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Pages' false advertising (was: Re: Windows apps that _won't_ run under SoftPC) Date: 4 Dec 93 23:59:16 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <jeffo.755049556@uiuc.edu> References: <CHE6FA.JFx@nimno.wpa.com> <1993Dec3.160047.322@stone.com> <jeffo.754998442@uiuc.edu> <2dqtju$42m@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Eric M Hermanson writes: >Either ship the stupid thing, or change the ads. I can't agree more. I also wonder how much money have they taken from people who actually believed them when they said they were shipping (money that might be earning interest somewhere). A while ago, I was told I could send them my order for some sort of an introductory special....good thing I didn't. How long has Pages been "real soon now"? A year? Two years? Given the serious lack of word processing and DTP apps for NS, the amount of time we've seen Pages say they're working on something and now announcing it's allegedly shipping, it sort of reminds me of NT and how much buildup there was for such a long time. -- J.B. Nicholson-Owens (*NO* NeXTmail please)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: pasqua@mv.us.adobe.com Subject: Re: Windows apps that _won't_ run under SoftPC Message-ID: <1993Dec5.004531.21489@adobe.com> Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS) Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated References: <1993Dec3.160047.322@stone.com> Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1993 00:45:31 GMT Adobe Acrobat for Windows, ATM for Windows, and the Acrobat PDFWriter for Windows all seem to work like a champ under SoftPC. I haven't done extensive testing, but everything I tried work (and quickly I might add - I was running Windows in full screen mode). Joe Pasqua Adobe Systems Incorporated
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: steve@eps.rain.com (Steve Kornreich) Subject: Gator-FTP for Intel?? Sender: news@percy.rain.com (Jeff Beadles) Organization: /etc/organization Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1993 17:41:02 GMT Message-ID: <CHGzsF.6MG@percy.rain.com> Does GatorFTP exist for Intel platform? and where could I find it.. Thanks -steve
From: Roland Telfeyan <roland@gomidas.mi.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: From Frame to Pages Date: 5 Dec 1993 02:24:28 GMT Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept. Distribution: world Message-ID: <2drgos$38k@zip.eecs.umich.edu> References: <jeffo.754800049@uiuc.edu> In article <jeffo.754800049@uiuc.edu> jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) writes: > In any case, if you're using Frame and wish to continue using it, if > you can afford to do so, you will have a more stable ride if you move > to a platform that Frame won't likely leave for some time -- either > the Mac or Windows. The product will work very much the same with > some differences of having up-to-date Frame code and, on the Mac at > least, the ability to import MS Word documents (the 4.x files I tried > worked, I've not tried 5.x). How about on the Sun, especially given the new news! Roland
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: takken@raven.Stanford.EDU (Todd Takken) Subject: what word processors are left? Message-ID: <1993Dec5.094512.23823@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: Stanford University Date: Sun, 5 Dec 93 09:45:12 GMT Now that Frame and WordPerfect have abandoned NextStep, what's left? Ideally, I'd like a word processor which is reasonably common across many platforms, but without Word, WordPerfect or Frame, this doesn't look possible. What are the remaining alternatives?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: kosmatoo@JSP.UMontreal.CA (Kosmatos Odisseas) Subject: Re: DOOM for NeXT is one AWESOME GAME!!!!! Message-ID: <CHKK14.768@cc.umontreal.ca> Sender: news@cc.umontreal.ca (Administration de Cnews) Organization: Universite de Montreal References: <CHCHq2.BHH@unix.portal.com> <CHEI46.D2E@freenet.carleton.ca> <CHEx7F.DBp@news2.cis.umn.edu> Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1993 15:51:03 GMT Peter Eisch (peter@corsica) wrote: : : Will the black version work on a mono NeXTSTATION Turbo? : : Whe it's released, that is... : I'd almost gamble it wouldn't run on a dimension... If DOOM runs on mono 040 NeXT's, we'll send DOUBLE the shareware fee!!! : peter@tahiti.umhc.umn.edu (Peter Eisch) peter.a.eisch@uwrf.edu -- |~~~~|_ "It is by will alone I set my mind in motion. | O .| | It is by the jus de raisin that the thoughts acquire speed, |.o |_| the t-shirt acquires stains, the stains become a warning..." |_._o| Odisseas Kosmatos email: kosmatoo@jsp.umontreal.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: hsueh@leland.Stanford.EDU (Michael C Hsueh) Subject: HELP: MS Word filter for WriteNow? Message-ID: <1993Dec5.204304.2625@leland.Stanford.EDU> Keywords: Microsoft, Word, Writenow, filter Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: Stanford University Date: Sun, 5 Dec 93 20:43:04 GMT Does anybody know of a document filter that will allow WriteNow to import Microsoft Word 5.1 documents from the Mac? If you do, please let me know via email. Thanks.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: steve@eps.rain.com (Steve Kornreich) Subject: Trouble installing 3.2 for Intel Sender: news@percy.rain.com (Jeff Beadles) Organization: The Irwin Hoson Company Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1993 02:14:36 GMT Message-ID: <steve.39.00123ED8@eps.rain.com> I am triing to install from scratch 3.2 on my Gateway 2000 Pentium machine and after the install process goes through loading the default SCSI Drivers, (btw I am using the 1542cf) I say continue and I get the following error message scrolling down my screen.. "Thread: waitfor Interrupt: returns-735" any ideas what may be causing this.. thanks steve. steve@eps.rain.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mark@xexos.com (Mark Chamberlain) Subject: MAB versions of Gopher or WAIS Message-ID: <1993Dec5.215903.6737@xexos.com> Sender: news@xexos.com Organization: Xexos, Ltd (London) Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1993 21:59:03 GMT Do these exist yet? I can't seem to find source to either... Mark -- Mark Chamberlain +44 71 237 4535 Xexos Ltd fax +44 71 231 0844 London mark@xexos.com
From: bestor@caracal.cs.wisc.edu (Gareth Bestor) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Q: How to get am1.00.0 to work? Message-ID: <1993Dec5.230144.18927@cs.wisc.edu> Date: 5 Dec 93 23:01:44 GMT Sender: news@cs.wisc.edu (The News) Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept. What the trick in getting am to work? I've followed the installation instructions but I get a busy signal if I call the modem and nothing happens if i try to record a message. Thanks in advance, - Gareth PS - I'm running an 040 cube w/ a ZyXEL U1496E modem ROM 6.10
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Pages' false advertising Date: 5 Dec 1993 23:07:12 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <2dtpj0$17t@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <jeffo.755049556@uiuc.edu> jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) writes: > Eric M Hermanson writes: > > NeXTWORLD, Sept 1993 p30, Pages ad: "Pages is Shipping!" > > NeXTWORLD, Oct 1993 p41, Pages ad: "Pages is Shipping!" > > NeXTWORLD, Nov 1993 p2, Pages ad: "Pages is Shipping!" > > > >Either ship the stupid thing, or change the ads. > > I can't agree more. I also wonder how much money have they taken > from people who actually believed them when they said they were > shipping (money that might be earning interest somewhere). Given the lead-times necessary for magazine advertisements, I can see being off by a month or two with an ad that says a product is shipping. At this point, however, it does seem rather irritating to keep seeing these ads about a product which has never shipped. Those who have seen Pages seem to be favorably impressed by it. That doesn't help anyone who's waiting for the product, though -- if fact it just makes it all the more frustrating. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: what word processors are left? Date: 5 Dec 93 23:17:29 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <jeffo.755133449@owens.slip.uiuc.edu> References: <1993Dec5.094512.23823@leland.Stanford.EDU> Todd Takken writes: >Now that Frame and WordPerfect have abandoned NextStep, what's left? Sadly, nothing that would stand up to price/performance comparisons when compared to Mac and Windows word processors. Ever since NS has been out, there has never been a competitive word processing solution. All that's been done has been based on NeXT's crappy Text object that lacks the kind of control you can get with other word processors on other platforms. Frame was the only significant product for NS, and now it's gone. Frame also had a problem in the world of MS Word and WordPerfect competition because it's aimed at high-end long & regular DTP users. Getting started with Frame is more difficult than getting started with MS Word or WordPerfect, including dealing with an office full of people that commonly use Word or WordPerfect. PasteUp is being sold and supported for NS, but it lacks long & regular DTP support and (last I saw) didn't handle slightly long (14+ page) documents well. The latest review of PasteUp 2.1 in this month's NeXTWORLD magazine PasteUp 2.1 is the best it's ever been with new features and (finally) work on getting it to be a stable product, not crashing frequently. Despite these advancements, it's constant comparison to Quark and PageMaker do it no favors, as it still cannot load anything but it's own (widely unknown and unused) proprietary file format. Pages is touted as the replacement for Frame, the DTP app catering to long & regular DTP users, but contrary to their fourth consecutive month of advertising "Pages is shipping!" in NeXTWORLD, I've heard nobody saying they have Pages. WriteNow! from Appsoft is no longer supported (it actually never got any support worth talking about), since Appsoft doesn't do work with NS. Lacking simple things I think all competant word processors should have (e.g., an easily-accessed method for real double-spacing and table editor), I found WN! to be nothing but a big joke. >Ideally, I'd like a word processor which is reasonably common across many >platforms, but without Word, WordPerfect or Frame, this doesn't look >possible. I think a well-done version of MS Word/NS would be great not only for current NS users, but prospective NS users who want something that not only works, but comes from someone they've heard of before and won't die next year. For many, Microsoft is that company, and the small developers of NS simply are not. [Say what you will about how if the product does the job, it shouldn't matter who it comes from, but when it comes down to business, it still matters.] Many NS advocates here on the net will continue to say things like, "We don't need MS here!" but looking at the installed userbase of NS, I think it wouldn't hurt to get some big-name developers like MS, Oracle, and WordPerfect back to NS, creating good NS-compliant apps and supporting them for many years. -- J.B. Nicholson-Owens (*NO* NeXTmail please)
From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Pages' false advertising Date: 5 Dec 93 23:38:09 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <jeffo.755134689@uiuc.edu> References: <jeffo.755049556@uiuc.edu> <2dtpj0$17t@usenet.rpi.edu> Garance A. Drosehn writes: >Given the lead-times necessary for magazine advertisements, I >can see being off by a month or two with an ad that says a >product is shipping. I agree. It should be noted that with the latest issue of NeXTWORLD magazine (December 1993), Pages is now in it's 4th consecutive month of saying Pages is shipping without actually shipping. NeXTWORLD Magazine, December 1993, p2: "Pages is Shipping!" -- J.B. Nicholson-Owens (*NO* NeXTmail please)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) Subject: Re: what word processors are left? Message-ID: <1993Dec6.000908.8363@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: Stanford University References: <jeffo.755133449@owens.slip.uiuc.edu> Date: Mon, 6 Dec 93 00:09:08 GMT J.B. Nicholson-Owens writes [gloomy picture of word processing on NS deleted] Yes, the picture right now is pretty gloomy. But not completely bleak. WordPerfect continues to run. Yes, its not as "advanced" as WP on other platforms, and its UI is still crappy, and its still somewhat buggy. But it does provide substantial compatibility with the most used word processor out there. Also, if I remember right AFS has promised a WP to WriteUp filter. Frame continues to run, according to recent posts on the net. Again, its behind other versions, but still has all its functionality. Its just missing the newer bells and whistles. PasteUp is shipping and gradually being improved. WriteUp is on the way from AFS. They've promised Jan.1, if memory serves. Something called WriteStep is also on the way. I don't know much about it but from the ad looks like a low-end WriteNow replacement. Pages will eventually ship (:-). The demos I've seen have been real cool. An innovative product in the way Improv was innovative. I hope they get it out the door RSN. With WriteUp and WriteStep, the low end will be well-covered. PasteUp and Pages cover the high end. I'm not sure if WriteUp will offer the functionality of a Word or WordPerfect. If it does, then the middle end will also be covered. So I'm not that worried in terms of functionality. The other problem is compatibility. I hope AFS delivers on its WP-WUp filter, and that it works both ways. Then we need a Word-WUp-Word filter. If we can get these, we're set. Who cares if we have the apps as long as we can read and write the files? BTW, when I say "offer the functionality of a Word or WordPerfect" I don't necessarily mean offering table and equation editors, but being able to work with them. EquationBuilder is much much better than the equation editors included with Word or WP on other platforms. What we need is for EqB to work smoothly with any new word processors (are you listening, AFS?). And we need somebody to write a good stand-alone table editor that will do the same (anyone out there? hello?). -- - Stefano Pagiola Food Research Institute, Stanford University spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged) spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: what word processors are left? Date: 6 Dec 93 01:24:04 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <jeffo.755141044@uiuc.edu> References: <jeffo.755133449@owens.slip.uiuc.edu> <1993Dec6.000908.8363@leland.Stanford.EDU> Stefano Pagiola writes: >Who cares if we have the apps as long as we can read and write the >files? Although I think the people that were looking at NS only because of big-name developers such as Oracle and WordPerfect would disagree, I personally agree with you. The problem is that after all these years, the best that can be offered now is "someday" and "so and so promised that...". All while Mac word processors have the combination of big-name apps from big-name developers and a history of support with no signs that this will let up in the forseeable future. This doesn't make NS look good to those with money who simply want to be able to read their MS Word documents on their new computers. >What we need is for EqB to work smoothly with any new word processors >(are you listening, AFS?). I agree because I am tired of hearing the excuse that "tables don't belong as a built-in feature" like what part of Glenn Reid said in response to why PasteUp doesn't have tables. If they don't belong as a built-in, that's fine, but that's no excuse for not having the functionality. Either supply a product that can do them like EqB, or build them in. If neither is done, which has been the case for too long with NS word processing efforts, the apps come off as uncompetitive in comparison to what people on the Mac and Windows have to choose from. It's been my experience that people who say that tables belong as an outside application don't use tables enough to know all that can be done with them or how a good application deals with them. I suggest building in table functionality then later, when you have an idea of all that the table editor should do, make the table editor another application separating it from the main DTP app and allowing it to work with every other editing application. Good luck. Tables can be used by everyone, from the low-end wp users to the highest of high-end users. They're very versatile, and it's been my experience that few people know how to use them effectively. I think that tables are as integral a part of document editing as using other formatting options like columns and wrap-around inserted elements (like pictures), so I'm not averse to building them in. I'd love to be shown wrong with a good remote table editor working flawlessly in conjunction with one or more other editors of various sorts such as word processors, text editors and diagram editors. [On the side, I should mention that I'm asked "Why not use a spreadsheet for your table needs, then import the spreadsheet into the word processor?" To which I respond that buying a spreadsheet simply to have a table editor is way too taxing on my wallet and much more functionality in areas I'd never use. I don't need a spreadsheet or a data calculator like good spreadsheets provide. Also, a spreadsheet will probably not have the intricate tie-ins to my document running in another application. There's no way, with a spreadsheet, to make use of styles defined in my DTP app or to tell the spreadsheet how the page should be broken depending on the content of the cell, or what variables I want to use inside cells of my table. In short, using a spreadsheet for a table editor's job will give one only the crudest editing of tables. There are too many elements of a document not being considered when using a spreadsheet for a table editor.] There are other word processor elements besides tables that all current NS word processors lack. If you want to weigh just how good your NS product is, in addition to looking at how well it works within the NS environment, try looking at the capability of other apps on other OSs. So far, even armed with the latest and greatest development tools of NS 3.x, nobody has come out with anything that can do all MS Word/Mac or Windows can (including file filters for reading and writing alternate formats, including both audio and visual non-printed notes, inclusion of foreign elements like Quicktime anims and spreadsheets from Excel). [Just to address a comment that is sure to come up somewhere in the scope of this discussion: it's obvious that including a drawing program like MS Word 5.x does is beyond the scope of a word processor and I certainly wouldn't argue that it's a good idea. However, there is too much that MS Word can do (that current NS word processors can not do) that make me still choose MS Word 5.x over the very latest NS word processors.] As for WriteStep, it looks like it has some elements that I think fall into the "should have been a separate app" category: including the rhymes dictionary, thesaurus software and quotations dictionary. On the flip side, I see some things that are welcome in any word processor (from the low-end to the high-end): including styles (it will be interesting to see how much the styles can record) and bullet editing. I look forward to evaluating it fully when it comes out. In the end, as per usual with NS word processing, all NS users can do is wait and see. -- J.B. Nicholson-Owens (*NO* NeXTmail please)
From: hendryjl@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (James L. Hendry) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: DOOM for NeXT is one AWESOME GAME!!!!! Date: 6 Dec 1993 05:34:24 GMT Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology Distribution: world Message-ID: <2dug90$7og@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu> References: <CHKK14.768@cc.umontreal.ca> > : : Will the black version work on a mono NeXTSTATION Turbo? > : : Whe it's released, that is... > If DOOM runs on mono 040 NeXT's, we'll send DOUBLE the shareware fee!!! I'll second that!!!!!!!!!!! Jim
From: hendryjl@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (James L. Hendry) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: DOOM for NeXT is one AWESOME GAME!!!!! Date: 6 Dec 1993 05:34:43 GMT Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology Distribution: world Message-ID: <2dug9j$7oh@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu> References: <CHKK14.768@cc.umontreal.ca> > : : Will the black version work on a mono NeXTSTATION Turbo? > : : Whe it's released, that is... > If DOOM runs on mono 040 NeXT's, we'll send DOUBLE the shareware fee!!! I'll second that!!!!!!!!!!! Jim
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jp@ninja.fdn.org (lai-cheong) Subject: Re: Windows apps that _won't_ run under SoftPC Message-ID: <1993Dec4.213942.372@ninja.fdn.org> Sender: news@ninja.fdn.org Organization: Individual References: <1993Dec3.150557.17941@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1993 21:39:42 GMT In article <1993Dec3.150557.17941@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> lmccullo@nyx.cs.du.edu (Michael McCulloch) writes: > In article <CHE6FA.JFx@nimno.wpa.com>, John Bartley <john@wpa.com> wrote: > > > I was disappointed to read recently that the Windows version of FrameMaker > > couldn't run under SoftPC on white hardware. All this time I was under the > > impression (wrongly, it seems) that the new Intel version of SoftPC would > > allow full use of Windows. The restrictions on enhanced mode (or whatever > > it is called) didn't occur to me, and I had been planning on being able to > > use the Windows version of Frame under SoftPC. > > Yeah, I can't run MathCAD (which I already suspected), nor can I run > Improv for Windows. So now I can run Solitaire along with all those great > DOS apps??? What's the use... > > Also, when I mount my DOS partition on the boot driver, several > directories appear to be empty under SoftPC. When the DOS partition is > unmounted from SoftPC, all the files appear fine in the WorkSpace. > > > If major, "desirable" Windows apps are not going to be executable under > > SoftPC, what's the point of it existing? Sort of like designing the > > world's best car except that you deliberately leave off the 4th wheel > > since it was just too difficult to design with all four. > > > > Why does the enhanced mode limitation exist, and is it permanent for > > SoftPC or just a temprary condition? > > Dont' know, but if this doesn't change, then SoftPC is worthless to me. > Is this the same company doing the emulation for NT? Does NT have the same > limitation? My guess is NOT. Draw your own conclusions. > -- > Michael McCulloch > michael@hsv.tybrin.com (NextMail Accepted!) > Huntsville, Alabama Ok Boys!!!!! SoftPC like OS2 2.0 version do not emulate windoze ENHANCED MODE!!!!! This mode of window 3.1 is require by few sotfware : Mathematica, painter, photoshop 2.5..... But if Os2 2.1 now can emulate it, i am sure SoftPC can do it soon!!!!! Be nice with SoftPC developpers.... -- Jean pierre Lai -Cheong Paris - France "With Next the WORLD is mine" jp@ninja.fdn.org ________ NextMails accepted ___________
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: chisel.murphy.gun.com!samurai (Darcy Brockbank) Subject: doom... doom... doom... Message-ID: <1993Dec6.035634.23504@gun.com> Sender: samurai@gun.com Organization: Gotham Users of NeXT, inc. Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1993 03:56:34 GMT I just thought I'd add my applause to the doomsayers (hey, this gives a whole new meaning to the NeXT-doomsayers, doesn't it?) here. This game is mundo cool. Rip-rocking action... a shoot-em and loot-em no-holds-barred roller-coaster ride of thrills chills and spills. Of course, it sucks when you get blown away by accident by the other guy playing on the net, of course... :-). - db
Newsgroups: comp.music,comp.sys.next.software From: petrack@vnet.ibm.com Subject: Morpheus and/or SPASM - could I hear some examples *please* Sender: news@hawnews.watson.ibm.com (NNTP News Poster) Message-ID: <CHLoAA.L1G@hawnews.watson.ibm.com> Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1993 06:20:34 GMT News-Software: IBM OS/2 PM RN (NR/2) v0.17h by O. Vishnepolsky and R. Rogers Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM. Organization: IBM Haifa (Israel) Research Group I am very interested to hear some output from two sound programs: Morpheus: apparently capable of "morphing" two audio signals. I do not know on which platform the software runs (Could someone tell me please?) SPASM: a parametrizeable singing voice synthesizer written by PR Cook of Stanford for the NeXT. Unfortunately, it seems that SPASM will only run on true NeXT hardware, because it requires the DSP, and NeXTSTeP486 does not support any DSP card (Could someone tell me if I'm wrong, or will be wrong soon?) If someone out there has access to either program, would it be possible to send me a uuencoded output audio signal?? I would like something high quality, and which really gives me an idea of what these programs can do. In particular, I might just buy a NeXT if SPASM sounds good enough, but I certainly am not going to shell out until I hear it. I don't need a huge long signal, but I think I would need at least a few seconds to get a good idea of the quality. A full sung phrase of SPASM and/or one complete morph would be great. Of course, longer contributions are very welcome. I can hear more or less any form of digital audio, although I see no reason to send a 48kHz signal. You can use any normal PC, Unix, or Mac program to send me the signal (e.g. tar, uuencode, binhex, compactor, zip, etc). In case it's not clear, the two programs and requests are totally independent - I want to check out Morpheus and I want to check out SPASM. I'm just putting it into a single post to save time (yours and mine). I'm really interested in using these programs, but I've got to hear some output before I invest time and money. Scott Petrack seen at shutdown of AIX 3.2: Petrack@haifasc3.vnet.ibm.com "Wait for '...Halt completed...' before halting..."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc From: hbu@wag.ch (Hans Burkard) Subject: Re: SoftPC on Moto 3.2 Message-ID: <CHLxCJ.8y2@wag.ch> Keywords: SoftPC Sender: usenet@wag.ch Organization: workstation ag, Rohrstr. 36/38, CH-8152 Glattbrugg, Switzerland References: <1993Dec04.170727.12730@cyantic.com> Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1993 09:36:19 GMT In article <1993Dec04.170727.12730@cyantic.com> mark@cyantic.com (Mark T. Dornfeld) writes: > I have been trying to get the SoftPC demo loaded on NS 3.2 Black. When it > starts, it asks for a number of settings under the heading "Preferences > Problem". It accepts all the entries except the value of DOS_Drive_C. The > default value is /LocalApps/SoftPC.app/hard_disk.hdf, but since I installed > the program in /NextDeveloper/Demos, this setting is inappropriate. When I > try to set up the disk in $HOME/hard_disk.hdf, it will not accept the value > and I have to quit unable to run the software. > > How does one get around this problem? Before you start up SoftPC execute the following command (using Terminal.app): dread -o SoftPC | dremove Regards -Hans- +---------------------+---------------------------+ | workstation ag | voice: +41 1 828 95 55 | | Rohrstr. 36/38 | fax: +41 1 828 95 70 | | CH-8152 Glattbrugg | e-mail: hbu@wag.ch | | Switzerland | | +---------------------+---------------------------+
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: sela@iastate.edu (Brian J Morrison) Subject: cassandra for NS3.1? Message-ID: <CHM8ww.Kz8@news.iastate.edu> Sender: news@news.iastate.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1993 13:46:08 GMT I just upgraded to NS3.1 but my cassandra program doesn't seem to work anymore. I've looked for another on the archives but have been unsuccesful so far. Can someone point me in the right direction or mail me a copy of cassandra for NS3.1. Thanks in advance. Brian sela@iastate.edu -- Brian sela@iastate.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: tlm@tantalus.scl.ameslab.gov (Tom Marchioro) Subject: Which X server to use? Message-ID: <CHMAq9.MoG@news.iastate.edu> Sender: news@news.iastate.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1993 14:25:20 GMT Due to a project I've gotten involved with of late I will need to be able to run several X-windows applications on my home NeXTstation. At work we have Co-Xist, which certainly does the job and seems quite usable to boot. For home I'd like a simpler solution, at least initially, both because my wallet is a bit thin at the moment and because disc space is getting a thin as well (clearly, these are related phenomena since a fat wallet could relieve the disc space problem pronto :) Anyway, I went to the archives, poked around, and came up confused. There is McGill-X, an 11 Mb monster, XNeXT from MIT (which seems to be R3 only?) as well as various tools, etc. In addition there are CoXist and Cube-X in the "for $" category. Cube-X even has a pretty good academic price, but that seems to be only for the user suite, not the development one. Before I go and install something as large as Mouse-X, or spend money on Cube-X/CoXist I'd like to have some idea of what I'm getting into (for example, if I start with the free Mouse-X and later want to go to a for $ package, how hard will it be to remove Mouse-X?) What I need, for the moment, is fairly basic functionality, i.e., the ability to run a couple of simple X-based apps on my station in reasonable sprightly fashion. It would be nice if I could grab source off the Net and compile the application here for "basic X" (I recognize that Motif is not "free" and Motif development suites have to be bought). In the long run my wallet will fatten, then my disc will, and then I'll spring for CoXist or CubeX, but by that time I may be running a Sparc10+NeXTstep as well (one can always dream :) Could some knowledgeable soul please give me a quick rundown on any or all of these various packages? What should I get for the moment, and what for the long run? Thanks in advance --- Tom -- Dr. Thomas L. Marchioro II Two-wheeled theoretical physicist Center for Physical and Computational Mathematics 515-294-5543 Ames Laboratory 515-233-1216 (home) Ames, Iowa 50011 tlm@iastate.edu
From: luomat@alleg.edu (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Newsgrazer -- changing directory Date: 6 Dec 1993 14:28:25 GMT Organization: Allegheny College Distribution: world Message-ID: <2dvfi9$1ua@ftp.alleg.edu> Keywords: from /tmp to anything! Is there a way to change the directory which Newsgrazer uses to put files? If I want to save an article or something (and not in a newsfolder) and I drag it to my house, I end up with a copy in the /tmp... I'd rather be able to set it myself. If there a dwrite perhaps? Thanks TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College, Meadville PA USA Using: NS 3.1 Black NeXT Mail Welcomed
From: alexk@swdev.research.otc.com.au (Alex Kowalenko) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Public X11 for Next Date: 6 Dec 1993 06:36:36 GMT Organization: Technical Development Group, Telstra International Distribution: world Message-ID: <2dujtk$57a@turin.research.otc.com.au> References: <2dlrsb$2s8@turin.research.otc.com.au> <1993Dec3.071806.6745@leland.stanford.edu> <CHHA50.rI@echelon.hacktic.nl> >2) X11R5-complete.tar.Z - All binaries, libraries, include files, config files, > and library files (such as App defaults) for use with (the included) Xnext > server. All man pages are included as well. Some extra binaries, such as > Xxgdb, are included as well, as is the R4 server (Xnext). I'm asumming NeXT binaries as apposed to Intel. I saw in the FAQ that someone will release their patches against the X11R5 source tree. That will probably will be the go for Intel & NS3.1 Alex
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs From: jhh@genesis5.physics.yale.edu (Jim Horne) Subject: GatorFTP 1.4 bug? Message-ID: <1993Dec6.172738.24876@cs.yale.edu> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.bugs Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News) Organization: Yale Physics Department Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1993 17:27:38 GMT The newest version of GatorFTP (version 1.4) has an annoying, but intermittent bug. I'm running it on a NeXTstation Turbo with 3.0. GatorFTP manages to get the first directory tree properly, but occasionally is unable to get any directory after that. Instead of displaying the file names, it shows first "cd" and then the protection settings for the files (such as -rwxr-wr-w). The only way to unconfuse GatorFTP is to log out and log back in again. Some times this happens numerous times in a row. Anyone know how to fix this? Should I just go back to version 1.3 which did not have this bug? -- Jim Horne jhh@waldzell.physics.yale.edu "With stupidity the gods themselves struggle in vain." Friedrich von Schiller
From: long0@ncc.centel.com (Gary Longsine) Newsgroups: comp.music,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Morpheus and/or SPASM - could I hear some examples *please* Date: 6 Dec 1993 18:02:51 GMT Organization: Central Telephone Company Distribution: world Message-ID: <2dvs4b$bqv@coergw2.centel.com> References: <CHLoAA.L1G@hawnews.watson.ibm.com> petrack@vnet.ibm.com writes: --------------------------- | SPASM: a parametrizeable singing voice synthesizer written by | PR Cook of Stanford for the NeXT. Unfortunately, it seems that | SPASM will only run on true NeXT hardware, because it requires | the DSP, and NeXTSTeP486 does not support any DSP card | (Could someone tell me if I'm wrong, or will be wrong soon?) I saw some information on an add-in card m56001 DSP (the same chip used in the NeXT machines) for PCs. I can't remember who made it, but I'm pretty sure that the info came from Alembic. Send email to: info@Alembic.com and inquire about it. They respond pretty well to info requests. By the way, sound cards are really just add-in DSP cards with additional supporting circuits. They tend not to use a good general purpose DSP like the m56001, though. [Newthread: m96001] A couple of year ago, Motorola announced what I thought was the follow-on DSP in this series, the m96001, has anybody heard of this? Is it still around? Is it code compatible with the m56001? Is it much faster? Did it die from lack of interest? Or was all of this a product of my warped imagination? Gary Longsine long0@ncc.centel.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: glen@instep.wimsey.bc.ca Subject: Re: Why not two (or four) docks? Message-ID: <1993Dec6.172444.7804@instep.wimsey.bc.ca> Sender: glen@instep.wimsey.bc.ca Organization: InStep Mobile Communications Inc. References: <2dqam0$3e8@steffi.demon.co.uk> Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1993 17:24:44 GMT In article <2dqam0$3e8@steffi.demon.co.uk> robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) writes: > don@b62178.student.CWRU.edu wrote > >In article <2dkb4s$ft2@ftp.alleg.edu> luomat@alleg.edu (Timothy J. Luoma) > >writes: > > > >[MUNCH] > >> The dock can simulate a 4-sided thin rectangular block (pole) that > >> can be rotated around the vertical axis. Dragging action to left > >> or right in the NeXT icon will rotate the block and will let the > >> user select a face. > >> Perhaps the NeXT icon can have a little number in the corner > >> indicating the current face. > > > >THIS IS AN EXCELLENT IDEA!!!!!!!! > > > > > >don... > > Also have the workspace do the same but have a sided cube. rotating on > both X and Y axis. > > Now that would look nice. > With the option of new logins on each side of the cube. -- Glen Biagioni Software Developer glen@instep.wimsey.bc.ca (small NeXTmail accepted) 604 872-7116 604 872-7125 fax
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: sela@iastate.edu (Brian J Morrison) Subject: dwrite for StartWorkspace? Message-ID: <CHMLwq.8x1@news.iastate.edu> Sender: news@news.iastate.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1993 18:26:50 GMT Could somebody that knows what I'm talking about send me the dwrite for the StartWorkspace executable? Brian sela@iastate.edu -- Brian sela@iastate.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jq@phcs.com (Jim Quick) Subject: Re: doom... doom... doom... Message-ID: <CHMnLp.CCv@phcs.com> Organization: Private Healthcare Systems, Inc References: <1993Dec6.035634.23504@gun.com> Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1993 19:03:25 GMT Wow! Exceptionally good game. I'll certainly send my money in. I'd like to see a couple of small things added -- 200% too small but %400 too big -- but the only one that I'd really like is to be able to save. Anyone been able to successfully save and restart? It dies when I've tried it. Is this a bug or did I install it wrong. Oh, I only found one other bug in this release. I tried several times and finally reproduced the following bug: Start the game any time after 20:00 localtime. Look at the preferences App clock. Begin to play. Look at the clock again. It's now past bed-time. Serious problem 8^) I hope it's not fixed in the next release. Great job ID. -- ___ ___ mail: uunet!phcs!jq PHCS, Inc. Advanced Technology Group / / / or jq@phcs.com It's spelled "Luxury Yacht", but it's \_/ (_\/ Voice: (617) 861-5579 pronounced "Throat-Warbler Mangrove". ) NeXTMail O.K.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson) Subject: Re: what word processors are left? Message-ID: <1993Dec6.164025.6745@afs.com> Sender: greg@afs.com References: <1993Dec6.000908.8363@leland.Stanford.EDU> Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1993 16:40:25 GMT In article <1993Dec6.000908.8363@leland.Stanford.EDU> spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) writes: > PasteUp is shipping and gradually being improved. I wouldn't characterize the improvements as gradual, but then again, I'm the one working on it. I hope my reputation as a no-hype person will serve me well when I say: You're gonna be blown away by PU 2.2, especially if you're existing user. It's still not up to Quark and Frame standards, but that's where 3.0 is going. Over the long term, we want nothing less than to own the high-end NS document creation market. > WriteUp is on the way from AFS. They've promised Jan.1, if memory > serves. Yes, and we stand by our story, as the journalists say. > With WriteUp and WriteStep, the low end will be well-covered. > PasteUp and Pages cover the high end. I'm not sure if WriteUp will > offer the functionality of a Word or WordPerfect. If it does, then > the middle end will also be covered. So I'm not that worried in > terms of functionality. When WriteUp was announced, we assumed that WP would still be around, so we left out some high-end features that we are capable of providing. Suffice it to say that we're not stupid about opportunities to make money. With WP's withdrawal, we are planning to reposition the 2.0 version of WriteUp into the medium-to-high end. > The other problem is compatibility. I hope AFS delivers on its > WP-WUp filter, and that it works both ways. Then we need a > Word-WUp-Word filter. If we can get these, we're set. Who cares if > we have the apps as long as we can read and write the files? You have succinctly stated our philosophy about document maintenance. We're working on both filters right now. I expect we'll beat our stated date for the WP filter (end of March) and get them both out by then. > BTW, when I say "offer the functionality of a Word or WordPerfect" I > don't necessarily mean offering table and equation editors, but being > able to work with them. EquationBuilder is much much better than the > equation editors included with Word or WP on other platforms. What > we need is for EqB to work smoothly with any new word processors (are > you listening, AFS?). And we need somebody to write a good > stand-alone table editor that will do the same (anyone out there? > hello?). PasteUp already knows how to interact with EqB, and we would never stoop so low as to remove this important capability from WriteUp. 8^) I hear rumors that someone in the NeXT community who literally wrote the book about table editors is considering an add-in product. It would not be fair to identify him publicly, but if you would buy such a tool, send me a note and I'll forward it. -- Gregory H. Anderson | "History is the fiction we invent to Revisionist Autobiographer | persuade ourselves that events are Anderson Financial Systems | knowable and that life has order and greg@afs.com (NeXTmail OK) | direction." -- Calvin & Hobbes, 7/19/93
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: clloyd@gleap (Charles C. Lloyd) Subject: Re: Newsgrazer -- changing directory Message-ID: <1993Dec6.171621.10982@gleap.sccsi.com> Sender: clloyd@gleap.sccsi.com Organization: GiantLeap Software References: <2dvfi9$1ua@ftp.alleg.edu> Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1993 17:16:21 GMT Timothy J. Luoma writes > >Is there a way to change the directory which Newsgrazer uses to put >files? If I want to save an article or something (and not in a >newsfolder) and I drag it to my house, I end up with a copy in the >/tmp... I'd rather be able to set it myself. If there a dwrite perhaps? > Look into the "Tools-->NewsFolders" option in the menu. This allows you to create non-expiring folders to permanently hold important posts. Charles. -- Charles Lloyd clloyd@GLeap.sccsi.com GiantLeap Software (713) 292-2442 or 363-0887 (Hou) (713) 363-0936 (fax)
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: what word processors are left? Date: 6 Dec 1993 22:36:06 GMT Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office Message-ID: <2e0c4m$ngt@news.mic.ucla.edu> References: <1993Dec5.094512.23823@leland.Stanford.EDU> <jeffo.755133449@owens.slip.uiuc.edu> : PasteUp is being sold and supported for NS, but it lacks long & : regular DTP support and (last I saw) didn't handle slightly long (14+ : page) documents well. The latest review of PasteUp 2.1 in this : month's NeXTWORLD magazine PasteUp 2.1 is the best it's ever been with : new features and (finally) work on getting it to be a stable product, : not crashing frequently. PasteUp 2.1 edit 5 on NS/Intel is certainly not anywhere close to usable. Constant crashes and odd results during edits. Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu Asst Prof of Finance iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu AGSM at UCLA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer From: rashid@degas.northstar.com (Navruze Rashid) Subject: Help with Gupta adaptor! Message-ID: <CHMuB7.s6@northstar.com> Keywords: Has anyone gotten this to work? Sender: usenet@northstar.com Organization: NorthStar Technologies, inc. Distribution: usa Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1993 21:28:17 GMT We are using the Gupta database on NS/FIP along with the Gupta adaptor supplied as part of the Parabase package. However, we are running into some fundamental problems with it which leads us to believe that this shipped product isn't, umm.. completely functional. Or even usable as is. First of all, it cannot deal with DBBinder structures and perform selects. After setting up the DBBinder (ala DBBinder example under the /NextDeveloper/Examples/DatabaseKit/Binder directory) and the correct record prototype, it chokes with the error message under gdb: Unknown error code 6001 in NXReportError This happens on the [binder select] operation. (Note that [binder fetch works ok.) Next, with the DBModeler app and creating a new DBModule, it fails to recognize ints, floats and other data types, and defaults everything to type double. This was a matter of some concern, since our database contains > 1600 fields and to modify them all manually using point and click would take a while. So we opened up the ascii version of the dbmodel (the .dbmodela file) and just for kicks compared with the Sybase version of the same dbmodel. Voila! It seems the Sybase version has much more type information within it. Here are the two versions for a single table within the Pubs demo database (the Gupta version was recreated): Sybase version ========================================================================= (discounts, discounts, "", N, ( (discount, discount, "", N, d, float, "", "", N, N, N, N), (discounttype, discounttype, "", N, "*", varchar, "", "", N, N, N, N), (highqty, highqty, "", N, i, smallint, "", "", N, N, N, N), (lowqty, lowqty, "", N, i, smallint, "", "", N, N, N, N), (stor_id, stor_id, "", N, "*", char, "", "", N, N, N, N))), Gupta version ========================================================================= (DISCOUNTS, DISCOUNTS, "", N, ( (DISCOUNT, DISCOUNT, "", N, d, "", "", "", N, N, N, N), (DISCOUNTTYPE, DISCOUNTTYPE, "", N, "*", "", "", "", N, N, N, N), (HIGHQTY, HIGHQTY, "", N, d, "", "", "", N, N, N, N), (LOWQTY, LOWQTY, "", N, d, "", "", "", N, N, N, N), (STOR_ID, STOR_ID, "", N, "*", "", "", "", N, N, N, N))), As you can see the second (Gupta) version has next to no type checking (other than setting all numeric types as double) and none of the additional type information which is included in the Sybase version of the dbmodel. Needless to say, this doesn't work for us. Does anyone have any ideas on how to fix this? Or even better (hope, hope) does anyone know how to write an adaptor or maybe have one written already for Gupta? All comments, suggestions and ideas welcome. Email rashid@northstar.com Thanks, Ruze
From: silbar@cantina.lanl.gov (Dick Silbar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Does 3.2 break Engage!Desktop? Date: 6 Dec 1993 17:53:27 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9312062347.AA01900@cantina.lanl.gov> On Friday I upgraded my Epson NX to NS/I 3.2, and I now do not get my docks with all the usual levels. Other icons do end up getting placed on the desktop, e.g., as when I launch an app. I do still have, in ~/Library/EngageDesktop _two_ configuration files. Logging out and in does not fix anything, nor does restarting the computer. Dick Silbar
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: PRESS RELEASE: Wolfram Research Releases Mathematica for NEXTSTEP for Intel Date: 6 Dec 1993 00:42:43 +0100 Organization: Palumbian Research Labs Message-ID: <2dtrlj$p1@marsu.tynet.sub.org> References: <2djpca$ss5@digifix.digifix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit David_Spitzler@NeXT.COM (David Spitzler) writes: > * Price and Availability * > Mathematica under NEXTSTEP for Intel processors will begin shipping > in December and is priced at $1245. Academic pricing starts at > $995. Volume discounts and academic site licenses are available. Shame on you. Why not pricing the academic release to $1239.95 ??? Show me one single student having a thousand bucks for Mathematica. They _want_ illegal copies, do they? -- Marsu: "Es gibt tatsaechlich Leute, die ohne Computer gluecklich und zufrieden leben." -- Frankie: "Ach was, die emulieren das doch nur!" ----- Markus Wenzel System administration, Consulting, Networking mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org on... NeXTSTEP / Unix / Novell / Windows NT IRC: Marsu Intel aside.
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Transys PNI help! Date: 6 Dec 1993 01:03:35 +0100 Organization: Palumbian Research Labs Message-ID: <2dtssn$qr@marsu.tynet.sub.org> References: <steve.34.001261C9@eps.rain.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit steve@eps.rain.com (Steve Kornreich) writes: >Has anyone yet got PNI to work on Intel platform.. I can get the modem to >dial, login correctly.. but I have no access to the serial port when I try to >ping anyone.. What am I doing wrong.. I have release 1.6 working here quite fine. I didn't encounter your problems. Call me via email, maybe I can help you - or send a mail to Louis Mamakos, he's very helpful. Regards, Markus. -- Marsu: "Es gibt tatsaechlich Leute, die ohne Computer gluecklich und zufrieden leben." -- Frankie: "Ach was, die emulieren das doch nur!" ----- Markus Wenzel System administration, Consulting, Networking mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org on... NeXTSTEP / Unix / Novell / Windows NT IRC: Marsu Intel aside.
From: cooncat@gershwin (Jessica L. Mosher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: what word processors are left? Date: 7 Dec 1993 01:02:40 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Distribution: world Message-ID: <2e0kng$t1b@agate.berkeley.edu> >WriteNow! from Appsoft is no longer supported (it actually never got >any support worth talking about), since Appsoft doesn't do work with >NS. On the contrary, it's my understanding that WriteNow was bought out by WordStar. But perhaps the company that makes the NeXT platform WriteNow isn't the same one that made the one for the Macintosh & PC platforms. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jessica L. Mosher Mills College Oakland, CA USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) Subject: Re: Oh no.... No Adaptec 1742 driver in NS 3.2! Message-ID: <1993Dec7.023821.29770@cs.yale.edu> Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News) Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT References: <javaman.105.0010154D@ccmail.com> Distribution: usa, na Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1993 02:38:21 GMT In article <javaman.105.0010154D@ccmail.com> javaman@ccmail.com (Team Caffeine) writes: > Imagine my dismay, when after waiting months for 3.2 to arrive so that it > would run on my Adaptec 1742 EISA controller, I find out during the > install, that Next did not ship a 1742 driver as indicated in the 3.2 > Hardware compatibility guide. I hope you're mistaken, because our DEC MTE system with 1742 SCSI card just arrived, and I want to build NEXTSTEP 3.2 on it tomorrow! -- Nathan "USENET" Janette PPP link from hilbert.csb.yale.edu Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Transys PNI help! Date: 7 Dec 1993 02:48:45 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL USA Message-ID: <2e0qud$7nb@news.acns.nwu.edu> References: <steve.34.001261C9@eps.rain.com> <2dtssn$qr@marsu.tynet.sub.org> In article <2dtssn$qr@marsu.tynet.sub.org>, Markus Wenzel <mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org> wrote: >steve@eps.rain.com (Steve Kornreich) writes: > >>Has anyone yet got PNI to work on Intel platform.. I can get the modem to >>dial, login correctly.. but I have no access to the serial port when I try to >>ping anyone.. What am I doing wrong.. > >I have release 1.6 working here quite fine. I didn't encounter your >problems. Call me via email, maybe I can help you - or send a mail to >Louis Mamakos, he's very helpful. > You might want to make sure that the router script you use has the proper 'ifconfig' command. You can do this manually with something. ifconfig pni0 www.xxx.yyy.zzz netmask 255.255.255.0 or similiar dependant your site needs. The script I used had this line commented out (cisco router). If this isn't done when you ping your own address you see the send and recieve lights ping pong. When you ping other addresses you'll mostly just sends w/o any recieves. -- Jerry S. Weiss j-weiss@nwu.edu Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois %SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: javaman@ccmail.com (Team Caffeine) Subject: GatorFTP 1.4 on NS/Intel crashes Message-ID: <javaman.102.000FA6E9@ccmail.com> Sender: news@ccmail.com Organization: Lotus CCMail Distribution: na, usa Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1993 15:39:00 When I try and get any file using GatorFTP 1.4 on a NS/Intel box, it crashes! Does any have this working? Would the authors kindly comment on if it was ever tested on NS/Intel ? Help! Mark Anenberg Lotus/CCMail
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: javaman@ccmail.com (Team Caffeine) Subject: Is there a News reader for NextStep/Intel ? Message-ID: <javaman.103.000FAF6F@ccmail.com> Sender: news@ccmail.com Organization: Lotus CCMail Distribution: usa, na Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1993 15:41:00 Is there a newsreader with a NS interface available for NS/Intel ? Anyone? Thanks, Mark Anenberg Lotus/ccMail
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: javaman@ccmail.com (Team Caffeine) Subject: Oh no.... No Adaptec 1742 driver in NS 3.2! Message-ID: <javaman.105.0010154D@ccmail.com> Sender: news@ccmail.com Organization: Lotus CCMail Distribution: usa, na Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1993 16:04:53 Imagine my dismay, when after waiting months for 3.2 to arrive so that it would run on my Adaptec 1742 EISA controller, I find out during the install, that Next did not ship a 1742 driver as indicated in the 3.2 Hardware compatibility guide. If you have a 1742 card, you'll have to put it in standard mode which makes it compatible with a 1542 card in order to get it to work. Where is the driver NeXT? Grumble, Grumble, Grumble Mark Anenberg
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Quick Guide to the comp.sys.next.* newsgroups Date: 6 Dec 1993 23:23:17 -0500 Organization: Next Announcements Message-ID: <2e10fl$9lk@digifix.digifix.com> The current menagerie: comp.sys.next.advocacy This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. comp.sys.next.announce Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) The NEXTSTEP FAQs are posted here monthly as well. This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. comp.sys.next.bugs A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well. comp.sys.next.hardware Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. comp.sys.next.marketplace NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. comp.sys.next.misc For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! comp.sys.next.programmer Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. The NEXTSTEP programmer FAQs are posted here. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. comp.sys.next.software This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. comp.sys.next.sysadmin Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. related Newsgroups comp.soft-sys.nextstep Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. comp.lang.objective-c Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. comp.object Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep-d next-advocacy-d next-announce-d next-bugs-d next-hardware-d next-marketplace-d next-misc-d next-programmer-d next-software-d next-sysadmin-d (For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to <digestif@antigone.com>). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's. To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying: SUB Listname YourName Example: SUB next-hardware-d John Doe -------------------------------------------------------------------- Written by: Eric P. Scott eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU Minor editing: Scott Anguish sanguish@digifix.com Additions from: Greg Anderson (Greg_Anderson@afs.com) and Michael Pizolato (Michael_Pizolato@afs.com)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mshaler@tdocad.sps.mot.com (Michael Shaler) Subject: Beginner's question re: Emacs 3.0.1 Message-ID: <CHnBsw.G23@tdocad.sps.mot.com> Sender: news@tdocad.sps.mot.com Organization: Nippon Motorola Ltd., Tokyo, Japan Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1993 03:46:07 GMT I'm having trouble getting a shell started in emacs. No matter how I try, no matter what I do, I keep getting the following: csh: Permission denied Process shell exited abnormally with code 1 Any suggestions? Thanks in advance. -- Michael Shaler Tokyo Design Center Nippon Motorola Ltd. +813 3280 8245 voice +813 3440 0033 fax mshaler@tdocad.sps.mot.com [NeXTmail]H
From: strobel@stein3.u.washington.edu (Nicolas Strobel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: CD-ROM News (Jana Publishing) still active?????? Date: 7 Dec 1993 06:07:52 GMT Organization: University of Washington Message-ID: <2e16jo$isl@news.u.washington.edu> Summary: Is Jana Publishing still publishing their CD-roms? Keywords: CD-ROM Jana I've been waiting for the CD-Rom News issues after the NeXT Expo edition last June. Has anyone received that issue(s)? Is Jana still solvent?? Please email, Nick Strobel strobel@dirac.phys.washington.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dave@alembicla.com(David W. Fahrney) Subject: Re: Remote access to personal NeXT? Message-ID: <CHn452.199@alembicla.com> Sender: dave@alembicla.com (David W. Fahrney) Organization: Alembic Systems International, Ltd. References: <CHDr7C.42n@kaiwan.com> Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1993 01:00:37 GMT In article <CHDr7C.42n@kaiwan.com> chipsig@kaiwan.com (<Chip> H. Sieglinger) writes: !> Is there software that would allow access to one's home NeXT system, so that !> it would be possible to access data files, (not executable apps) held in the !> file structure? I would think a BBS would work, however, that would be more !> than I'm looking for, and I don't know of such an app at any rate. I would !> particularly like to be able to leave a CD on the machine, and access it for !> data searches. !> Look into Pinnacle Transfer. info@pri.com or 602.529.1135 -- David W. Fahrney =:-) Alembic Systems International, Los Angeles V: 310.371.6226 F: 310.371.0886
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: rawyatt@netcom.com (Robert Wyatt) Subject: PGP for NEXTSTEP Message-ID: <rawyattCHnLCI.LJL@netcom.com> Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest) Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1993 07:12:18 GMT Is a version of PGP available for NEXTSTEP? I realize that is has been compiled to run on Unix, but has anyone tried running it under NEXTSTEP? Or (hopeful), is a version available with a NEXTSTEP interface... What about other encryption schemes? What kind of encryption systems are available for NEXTSTEP? Thanks in advance! -Rob Wyatt rawyatt@netcom.com (no NeXTmail)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: brill@sybase.com (Michael Brill) Subject: Re: Accessing DOS partition from NEXTSTEP Message-ID: <CHn8x3.F35@sybase.com> Sender: usenet@sybase.com Organization: Sybase, Inc. References: <CHBH46.G53@sybase.com> <2dis91$hkn@pith.uoregon.edu> Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1993 02:43:50 GMT >The DOS partition should automount at startup. If not, try 'mount -o dos >/dev/rhd0b /xxxx' where xxxx is your mount point from a terminal window from >your root account. I think this was how I forced mine to work when it >was acting pesky. If you your DOS partition is on another physical >drive, you'll have to specify its raw device name, /dev/rhd1h, which is >the second physical IDE drive on your machine instead of /dev/rhd0a, >which is the second partition on your first physical IDE drive for >example. Substitute sd for hd if your drive is SCSI. Steve: Thanks for the advice, but no luck... I'm not much of a Unix guy, but when I type: #mount -o dos /dev/rsd0b /brill I get: mount: /dev/rsd0b on /usr/u/brill: Device busy mount: giving up on: /usr/u/brill Any ideas? Thanks, ...Michael
From: rpopp@ebigek01.ciw.uni-karlsruhe.de (Ruediger Popp) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,alt.fax Subject: Q: How to use a NeXT attached Faxmodem with a PC over the Network? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Date: 7 Dec 1993 12:05:57 GMT Organization: University of Karlsruhe, Germany Message-ID: <2e1rj5$hfd@nz12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Problem: A faxmodem is attached to a NeXT-Server. All Faxes are managed by NeXTSTEP. There are some DOS-PC s connected to the NeXT-Network, using PC/TCP from FTP-Software. The PC users now should get the possibility to use the NeXT-attached Faxmodem to send and receive faxes directly from their MS-WINDOWS Applications. Does anybody know a solution? --- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Ruediger Popp Engler-Bunte-Institut Bereich Chemie und Technik von Gas, Erdoel und Kohle Universitaet Karlsruhe (TH) Richard-Willstaetter-Allee 5 76131 Karlsruhe Germany Tel.: +49 721 608 2994 FAX : +49 721 69 30 19 E-MAIL: rpopp@ebigek01.ciw.uni-karlsruhe.de (NeXT-Mail preferred) -----------------------------------------------------------------
From: jhhl@panix.com (Henry Lowengard) Newsgroups: comp.music,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Morpheus and/or SPASM - could I hear some examples *please* Date: 6 Dec 1993 19:18:31 -0500 Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC Distribution: inet Message-ID: <2e0i4n$pag@panix.com> References: <CHLoAA.L1G@hawnews.watson.ibm.com> <2dvs4b$bqv@coergw2.centel.com> In <2dvs4b$bqv@coergw2.centel.com> long0@ncc.centel.com (Gary Longsine) writes: >petrack@vnet.ibm.com writes: >--------------------------- >| SPASM: a parametrizeable singing voice synthesizer written by >| PR Cook of Stanford for the NeXT. Unfortunately, it seems that >| SPASM will only run on true NeXT hardware, because it requires >| the DSP, and NeXTSTeP486 does not support any DSP card >| (Could someone tell me if I'm wrong, or will be wrong soon?) >I saw some information on an add-in card m56001 DSP >(the same chip used in the NeXT machines) for PCs. >I can't remember who made it, but I'm pretty sure that >the info came from Alembic. Send email to: > info@Alembic.com >and inquire about it. They respond pretty well to >info requests. >By the way, sound cards are really just add-in DSP cards >with additional supporting circuits. They tend not to >use a good general purpose DSP like the m56001, though. Ariel makes a card for IBM-pc busses which duplicated the hardware which comes "free" in the "black" hardware. Currently, the folks at CCRMA, who are in charge of the music kit, are trying to come up with a scheme to run the MusicKit on non-black hardware. Also, if you want to hear what SPASM and Morph sound like, there are sound samples sitting on ccrma-ftp.stanford.edu (they've reorganized their heirarchy, but I think it's under /NeXT/music or /NeXT/samples or something obvious like that). You can hear SPASM sing on a flexidisk in a recent issue of Computer Music Journal: v17:2 ?? I can't seem to find it. These are 16 bit samples, but might play on some BSD sound-capable platforms... or you can just look at the bytes and imagine the sounds. -- +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | jhhl @panix.com Henry Lowengard 43 W16 #2D NYC 10011-6320 USA | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: PGP for NEXTSTEP Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1993 08:17:53 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Chemistry, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <gh18_1600iV0Q0ukN_@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <rawyattCHnLCI.LJL@netcom.com> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 7-Dec-93 PGP for NEXTSTEP by Robert Wyatt@netcom.com > Is a version of PGP available for NEXTSTEP? I realize that is has been > compiled to run on Unix, but has anyone tried running it under NEXTSTEP? > Or (hopeful), is a version available with a NEXTSTEP interface... PGP 2.3 (I think that was the version) compiles fine under NEXTSTEP. You don't get any kind of user interface beyond pure text (but you could write one, I suppose). > What about other encryption schemes? What kind of encryption systems > are available for NEXTSTEP? NeXT was forced by the US government to not ship NEXTSTEP with a working mail encryption system. However, if you look in Mail.app, the hooks are there. -Chuck Charles William Swiger -- CMU...*splat*! | 1. You can't fly. --------------------------------------------+ 2. Cars are always real, even AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | when they're not. Failing that: cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu | 3. Police are not your friends. NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | 4. Fire burns.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: sinclair@cs.brandeis.edu (David A. Sinclair) Subject: *BIG* problem w/ WordPerfect 1.0.1 on NS3.0 Message-ID: <1993Dec7.132155.2989@news.cs.brandeis.edu> Sender: news@news.cs.brandeis.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Brandeis University - Computer Science Dept. Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1993 13:21:55 GMT Hello, netland. I am having rather a large problem with WordPerfect 1.0.1, running on my NS3.0 slab. (Yes, I know it's probably not the most recent version of the software, but I don't have time or $ for upgrading WP right now!) Here's the problem: when I try making things Italic or Bold, either by using the Command-key shortcuts or by manually selecting the menu option, weird things happen. Choosing Italic gives me a ^A code embedded in my document, rather than the ITALC code I should get. Similarly, Choosing Bold gives me an embedded ^B. This happens whether I am applying the menu selection to pre-selected text, or simply trying to toggle on the font style. I can still go through, select the region (for example) that I want to italicize, and use a font panel to select a font with Italics, but mine is a 137-page document, due to the recipient in about 18 hours!! Has anyone else seen this behavior, and please, oh please, does anyone know how to (quickly) correct it??? I have tried to WP support line (a toll call!) but not gotten through to anything other than a machine. :-( Much thanks for any advice!! David Sinclair -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- David A. Sinclair - "Chester" sinclair@cs.brandeis.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: steve@eps.rain.com (Steve Kornreich) Subject: SoftPC for Intel video drivers???? Sender: news@percy.rain.com (Jeff Beadles) Organization: The Irwin Hoson Company Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1993 13:30:27 GMT Message-ID: <steve.42.00058224@eps.rain.com> I just finally received my 3.2 upgrade for INTEL and was wondering what video drivers can you use with SoftPC full screen while running windows. Or are we limited to 640x480 vga graphics only in full screen mode. steve@eps.rain.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: erik@csn.org (Erik Mugele) Subject: Re: Which X server to use? Message-ID: <CHoAy0.G7D@csn.org> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Sender: news@csn.org (The Daily Planet) Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc. References: <CHMAq9.MoG@news.iastate.edu> Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1993 16:25:11 GMT Tom Marchioro (tlm@tantalus.scl.ameslab.gov) wrote: [some stuff deleted] : Could some knowledgeable soul please give me a quick rundown on any or all : of these various packages? What should I get for the moment, and what for : the long run? If the rundown could be posted to this newsgroup, it would be helpful several people that I know of. Thanks, Erik -- Erik Mugele * erik@csn.org * "Strip mining prevents Colo. Springs, Colorado * mugele@sil.org * forest fires." Amateur Radio: N5XYX * No NeXTMail yet! * DoD #: 1030 * Phone: 719.550.6188 *
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: askaruli@athena.jrb.rpslmc.edu (Alex Skarulis) Subject: Q: attaching sounds to folders Message-ID: <1993Dec7.185427.7079@rpslmc.edu> Keywords: sounds, folders Sender: news@rpslmc.edu Organization: Rush-Presbyterian-St. Luke's Medical Center Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1993 18:54:27 GMT Question: Can someone tell me if and how it is possible to attach a sound to a folder. I want something similar to how .dir.tiff and .opendir.tiff are used to attach tiffs to a folder. I would like to have a particular sound play when things are put in the folder, and another when things are taken out. Does anyone know of a way to do this. Thanks in advance, Alex
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy From: lorinr@altsys.com (Lorin Rivers III) Subject: Re: Features of Tailor.app that I want to see in all other apps. Message-ID: <1993Dec7.163759.22040@altsys.com> Keywords: Tailor, PostScript, Editor Organization: Altsys Corporation, Richardson, TX References: <2djjrv$khj@agate.berkeley.edu> <CHGCzI.3wG@well.sf.ca.us> Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1993 16:37:59 GMT In article <CHGCzI.3wG@well.sf.ca.us> ludwig@well.sf.ca.us (Michael Rutchik) writes: > >>In all drawing apps I have used, in order to edit members of a >>grouped object, you have to ungroup it first. Tailor lets you >>"enter" a group and let you edit its members without breaking the >>grouping. I want to see that in Virtuoso and other apps. > >This feature is actually handled quit gracefully in Virtuoso. Using Alt and >Alt-Shift key modifiers it is quite easy to select individual points, >objects and subgroups of a group without ungrouping. One can also modify >elements within a compound path (Join Elements) without having to split the >elements. Don't forget the Control key which allows you to pick behind elements... >While we're wishing though, I would like to see Virtuoso implement one >aspect of Illustrators text handling which would make it so much more >pleasurable to use: Let me have the option to simply click the text tool >anywhere and start typing without creating a text-block with tabs! While the >formatting options available within that fancy text-block are a god-send >when appropriate, they're a big pain in the butt most other times. First of all, Virtuoso only has 2 2 ``modes'' for text. There's the standard ``container'' mode (tab ruler, etc) and ``text-on-a-path'' mode. Tab rulers always appear with text containers. If you have the ``Changing Elements Changes Defaults'' preference on (the default) then when you change a containters' tab settings, subsequent containers have that same setting, so if you aren't expecting that then it could cause problems. I'd like to hear how ``Just clicking and typing would work'' to you. >Also multi-color (3 or more) blends and the blend-drag tool would be welcome >additions. Oh, and just one more thing: can we save the file with an eps >header instead of creating a separate eps file? > >Also, I could mention Illustrator 5 compatability but Lorin informs me >they're already working on it. (Freehand for NS/FIP?) > >Anyhow, I look forward to anymore postings on tailor. It is beginning to >sound like my next purchase. > >Michael Rutchik >Clorox Graphics >ludwig@well.sf.ca.us Also, I welcome any feature suggestions anyone might have... -- Lorin Rivers Lorin_Rivers@altsys.com NEXTSTEP Sales Manager 214.680.2060 269 W. Renner Parkway NeXT Mail Expected Richardson, Texas 75080 I said it, not my boss
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy From: lorinr@altsys.com (Lorin Rivers III) Subject: Re: Features of Tailor.app that I want to see in all other apps. Message-ID: <1993Dec7.164004.22128@altsys.com> Organization: Altsys Corporation, Richardson, TX References: <CHGCzI.3wG@well.sf.ca.us> <2dn1t7$gbl@agate.berkeley.edu> Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1993 16:40:04 GMT In article <2dn1t7$gbl@agate.berkeley.edu> izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu writes: >In article <CHGCzI.3wG@well.sf.ca.us> ludwig@well.sf.ca.us (Michael Rutchik) writes: > >>>In all drawing apps I have used, in order to edit members of a >>>grouped object, you have to ungroup it first. Tailor lets you >>>"enter" a group and let you edit its members without breaking the >>>grouping. I want to see that in Virtuoso and other apps. >> >>This feature is actually handled quit gracefully in Virtuoso. Using Alt and >>Alt-Shift key modifiers it is quite easy to select individual points, >>objects and subgroups of a group without ungrouping. One can also modify >>elements within a compound path (Join Elements) without having to split the >>elements. > >Thank you and Lorin for pointing it out for me. Actually, I was missing >a whole array of good features that are activated with Alt, Shift, Control >keys with mouse ops. Better read the FM sometime. > >However, it doesn't seem possible to add a new object into a group, i.e., >not everything you can do outside a group can be done into grouped objects >in Virtuoso. So, I think there is still a point for the concept of "entering" >a group, which will make the entered group a new playing field where you >can do everything you can outside. I'm not following you here, could you go into more detail and maybe I can help you out! > > >-- >Izumi Ohzawa [ $@Bg_78^=;(J ] >USMail: University of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720 >Telephone: (510) 642-6440 Fax: (510) 642-3323 >Internet: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (NeXTMail OK) -- Lorin Rivers Lorin_Rivers@altsys.com NEXTSTEP Sales Manager 214.680.2060 269 W. Renner Parkway NeXT Mail Expected Richardson, Texas 75080 I said it, not my boss
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Atze (Alexander Spohr) Subject: Re: screensavers for intel hardware Message-ID: <1993Dec7.182526.439@dart.de> Sender: aspohr@dart.de Organization: d'ART Computersysteme GmbH References: <CHIMG5.KK5@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> Date: Tue, 7 Dec 93 18:25:26 GMT In article <CHIMG5.KK5@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> jashley@cs.indiana.edu (J. Michael Ashley) writes: > Is there a screensaver for Intel hardware? In particular, one that > works while the user is logged in. > I have a black developer machine. On this you find one under /NextDeveloper/Examples/Appkit. It's called Backspace. It's good and free and you can add as much different savers as you can get a hold of. Nine come with it, others are on different CD-ROMs. I don' know if it is on a user machine or on NSfIP. But if not someone could compile it as MAB and drop it on a ftp server. I won't since I don't have ftp access. Atze -- Alexander Spohr, Hamburg, Germany Alexander_Spohr@dART.de (Mail ) Faces and faces (+49) 40 / 380 23-0 (Sound) See them and complain not (+49) 40 / 380 23-290 (Fax ) And am content with all
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) Subject: Re: *BIG* problem w/ WordPerfect 1.0.1 on NS3.0 Message-ID: <1993Dec7.172710.17707@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: Stanford University References: <1993Dec7.132155.2989@news.cs.brandeis.edu> Date: Tue, 7 Dec 93 17:27:10 GMT David A. Sinclair writes > I am having rather a large problem with WordPerfect 1.0.1, running > on my NS3.0 slab. (Yes, I know it's probably not the most recent > version of the software, but I don't have time or $ for upgrading > WP right now!) > > Here's the problem: when I try making things Italic or Bold, > either by using the Command-key shortcuts or by manually selecting > the menu option, weird things happen. This is a long-known (and long-fixed) bug that surfaced in the switch to NS3.0. WP has a maintenance release that fixes it, and usually sent it free to people who complained about the bug. BTW, 1.0.1 *is* the most recent version of WP/NeXT. What matters, though, is the release date. Make sure its at least Jan.93 or more recent. (I think June 93 is the most recent) -- - Stefano Pagiola Food Research Institute, Stanford University spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged) spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: hbergh@nl.oracle.com (Herbert vd Bergh) Subject: Re: Wrapping overlong lines in Terminal.app Message-ID: <CHo95E.2yr@nl.oracle.com> Sender: news@nl.oracle.com Organization: Oracle Europe References: <kgzYaay00iUyQ6zZlf@andrew.cmu.edu> <2dljc7$5dr@ftp.alleg.edu> Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1993 15:46:26 GMT Timothy J. Luoma (luomat@alleg.edu) wrote: : In article <kgzYaay00iUyQ6zZlf@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger : <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes: : Enter Terminal->Info->Preferences; switch to Display; enable : "Wrap lines that are too long (rewrap when window resized)". : : ~~ : I already had that set : This doesn't work for ps -aux (and I expect others as well). ps -aux adjusts its output to the window width. If your window is 80 columns wide, the output is truncated at 80 characters. Try ps -auxww instead. Herbert.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: andrew@stone.com (Andrew Stone) Subject: Re: what word processors are left? Message-ID: <1993Dec7.041845.462@stone.com> Keywords: Executor Sender: andrew@stone.com Organization: Stone Design Corp References: <1993Dec5.094512.23823@leland.Stanford.EDU> Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1993 04:18:45 GMT In article <1993Dec5.094512.23823@leland.Stanford.EDU> takken@raven.Stanford.EDU (Todd Takken) writes: > Now that Frame and WordPerfect have abandoned NextStep, what's left? > Ideally, I'd like a word processor which is reasonably common across many > platforms, but without Word, WordPerfect or Frame, this doesn't look > possible. What are the remaining alternatives? There's always Microsoft Word Macintosh flavor, using Executor from ARDI on NEXTSTEP. andrew -- ||<<->>||<<==>>||<<++>>||<<?>>||<<+>>||<<-->>||<<==>>||<<+>>|| !! Andrew Stone !! (505) 345-4800 !! !! andrew@stone.com <> Stone Design Corp !! ||<<->>||<<==>>||<<++>>||<<?>>||<<+>>||<<-->>||<<==>>||<<+>>||
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: fineman@cs.washington.edu (Lucifer Sam) Subject: Re: Anyone used SoftPC on 3.2 FIP yet? Message-ID: <1993Dec7.200142.13579@beaver.cs.washington.edu> Sender: fineman@cs.washington.edu Organization: The Heart of the Sun Date: Tue, 7 Dec 93 20:01:42 GMT I have the academic upgrade for 3.2 - it doesn't appear to have any sort of SoftPC on it - is there one on the cd's somewhere? Or did it just go out in the retail packages? thnx dan
From: bkr@drdhh.hanse.de (Bjoern Kriews) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Features of Tailor.app that I want to see in all other apps. Date: 6 Dec 1993 10:35:41 +0100 Organization: Digital Island Message-ID: <bkr.755170306@drdhh> References: <2djjrv$khj@agate.berkeley.edu> Keywords: Tailor, PostScript, Editor izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa) writes: >[1] Multiple Views into a single document. >All apps I have seen let you see and manipulate a document in one >view/window at a time. E.g., you have to zoom in to see details >and zoom out to see the whole picture, and often zoom/unzoom is a >time consuming operation. Tailor lets you see a single document >via multiple views in separate windows, e.g., one zoomed, another In Text-Apps, I'd like to have a feature like in Sun's XView Editor, split documents, if someone is condering to implement such stuff. Greetings, Bjoern btw: Valentino Kyriakides ported XView (including these tools to the NeXT, look at cs.orst.edu or other (ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de) archive sites. Please respect uni-muenchen's time policy. -- bkr@drdhh.hanse.de - Bjoern Kriews - Stormsweg 6 - D-22085 Hamburg [76] - FRG DEBUG: fisendcmd: Sending command "EY" (Taylor UUCP)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller) Subject: Re: HELP: MS Word filter for WriteNow? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 References: <1993Dec5.204304.2625@leland.Stanford.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Organization: Gerhard Moeller, German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg. Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1993 19:42:05 GMT Message-ID: <1993Dec7.194205.1183@proximus.north.de> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Michael C Hsueh (hsueh@leland.Stanford.EDU) wrote: > Does anybody know of a document filter that will allow WriteNow to import > Microsoft Word 5.1 documents from the Mac? If you do, please let me know > via email. Thanks. I'd say: "No way", as Word is MUCH more powerful than WN. But if ANYONE knows abount ANY way to edit Word 5.1 files from the Mac on a NeXT and save them so that the Mac can read them again with Word, please let me know. I'm looking for such a tool for 2 years now, and will end up in buying a Mac. Sad, but true. I NEED Word for Work. Simple as that. :-( Gerhard. -- +---------------------------< principiis obsta! >---------------------------+ N Gerhard Moeller, Hetzg. 32/11, A-1030 Wien (Austria) [*: 02/21/1968] N e Private: gemoe@proximus.north.de Phone (voice): +43-1-7151531 e X Uni: Gerhard.Moeller@arbi.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE NeXTmail X T Z-Net: Gerhard.Moeller@uniol.zer encouraged! T +-> NoGeNUG - Northern German NeXT User Group: NoGeNUG@proximus.north.DE <-+
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller) Subject: Re: Pages' false advertising Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 References: <jeffo.755134689@uiuc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Organization: Gerhard Moeller, German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg. Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1993 19:45:06 GMT Message-ID: <1993Dec7.194506.1248@proximus.north.de> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable According to the major NeXT dealer in Germany who is doing the localization, Pages is supposed to SHIP - that is they sell it then - by end of December this year. As they do the localization, it should be pretty much stable. G. -- +---------------------------< principiis obsta! >---------------------------+ N Gerhard Moeller, Hetzg. 32/11, A-1030 Wien (Austria) [*: 02/21/1968] N e Private: gemoe@proximus.north.de Phone (voice): +43-1-7151531 e X Uni: Gerhard.Moeller@arbi.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE NeXTmail X T Z-Net: Gerhard.Moeller@uniol.zer encouraged! T +-> NoGeNUG - Northern German NeXT User Group: NoGeNUG@proximus.north.DE <-+
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: rawyatt@netcom.com (Robert Wyatt) Subject: Re: what word processors are left? Message-ID: <rawyattCHonDC.8Lt@netcom.com> Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest) References: <1993Dec5.094512.23823@leland.Stanford.EDU> <jeffo.755133449@owens.slip.uiuc.edu> Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1993 20:53:36 GMT AFS is working on a product called WriteUp (I believe). It will have a WordPerfect -> WriteUp translator. Maybe AFS will write some additional translators so that WriteUp can read MS-Word and other files... -Rob rawyatt@netcom.com
From: strobel@stein2.u.washington.edu (Nicolas Strobel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXT EPS to Mac EPS- How? Date: 7 Dec 1993 21:16:07 GMT Organization: University of Washington Message-ID: <2e2rqn$3l6@news.u.washington.edu> Summary: How convert NeXT EPS to Mac-readable EPS? Keywords: EPS conversion I have an encapsulated postscript file created on my NeXT and am wanting to read it on the Macintoshes at work. The graphics programs on the Macintoshes have trouble reading/interpreting the postscript. If I remember correctly, NextAnswers used to have a file or two about converting Mac to Next postscript and vice versa. Unfortunately, NeXT decided to delete all that helpful info from their new "improved" NextAnswers. Can someone help me find out how to do the NeXT to Mac conversion?? Please email, Nick Strobel strobel@dirac.phys.washington.edu
From: silbar@cantina.lanl.gov (Dick Silbar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Not setting TEXINPUTS successfully (?) Date: 7 Dec 1993 15:23:32 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9312072117.AA02423@cantina.lanl.gov> Rather than become root and link all my particular TeX style files into /usr/lib/tex/inputs (which lets them be wiped out if one re-installs NeXTTeX), I'd prefer having each user on this machine be able to set their own TEXINPUTS path. So, I put the following line into my .cshrc file: setenv TEXINPUTS=".:/Users/silbar/Papers/TeXstuff:\ /Users/silbar/Papers/TeXstuff/revtex3:\ /usr/lib/tex/inputs" (Actually, it is all one line; the backslashes are not there.) THIS doesn't do anything for me, but I sure thought it would. (Did it, on my 3.0 NeXT? -- I don't quite remember.) So, what am I doing wrong? Have I only misspelled something? Dick Silbar
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy From: ludwig@well.sf.ca.us (Michael Rutchik) Subject: Re: Features of Tailor.app that I want to see in all other apps. Message-ID: <CHop2E.1Ls@well.sf.ca.us> Keywords: Tailor, PostScript, Editor Sender: news@well.sf.ca.us Organization: The Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link, Sausalito, CA References: <2djjrv$khj@agate.berkeley.edu> <CHGCzI.3wG@well.sf.ca.us> <1993Dec7.163759.22040@altsys.com> Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1993 21:30:13 GMT Re: Click & Type in Virtuoso Lorin, Play around with Illustrator 5 for a few minutes. I think you'll see what I mean. As you probably know, I'm dealing mostly with Packaging Graphics. Quite often I simply need to add a line or two of type in some remote corner of a package. The two ways of doing this in virtouso involve either a big text box or the need to first create a path (or two) and link the type to it. Both of these methods are very cumbersome in such an instance. Seeing as how such instances occur 30 - 50 times a day this is my #1 feature request. I forget if I mentioned it earlier, but another much needed feature would be the ability to save as an eps but still be able to edit the file in Virtuoso. Like Illustrators save with eps header option. This would be especially valuable in NS since the exact same file could be edited by me and viewed through drag & drop by any other NS app. The only trick I see here would be to get Virtuoso to recognize .eps files that were really .vrt files. (it's beginning to sound alot like tailor :-) Last but not least! Why doesn't Virtuoso use the edit menus spell checking capabilities?!?! One of my primary resons for getting NS in-house was because of the highly sensible common spell checker. The place I need it most is in your app. I hope this has been of interest to the group. I decided to post it here to give some more visibility to this outstanding app. Thanks, Michael Rutchik ludwig@well.sf.ca.us
From: silbar@cantina.lanl.gov (Dick Silbar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: RE: Does 3.2 break Engage!Desktop? -- A WORKAROUND Date: 7 Dec 1993 16:17:01 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9312072210.AA02466@cantina.lanl.gov> Yesterday I wrote: On Friday I upgraded my Epson NX to NS/I 3.2, and I now do not get my docks with all the usual levels. Other icons do end up getting placed on the desktop, e.g., as when I launch an app. I do still have, in ~/Library/EngageDesktop _two_ configuration files. Logging out and in does not fix anything, nor does restarting the computer. I have since learned that there was no problem with one person's Motorola version in 3.2. So, I tried harder. What restores the docks and apparently full functionality is to delete the ~/Library/EngageDesktop/Configuration and Configuration768 files, then relaunch the App. You have to reconstruct your levels and drag all your desiderata back into them, however. Conclusion: 3.2 does not break Engage!Desktop but, for me anyway, the Upgrade.app did. Dick Silbar WhistleSoft, Inc.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc From: mark@cyantic.com (Mark T. Dornfeld) Subject: SLIP with NXFax Organization: CYANTIC Systems Date: Tue, 07 Dec 1993 15:31:33 GMT Message-ID: <1993Dec07.153133.21154@cyantic.com> Can a SLIP driver be set up on the same port as NXFax? I will only be using SLIP for dialup on demand and will be receiving no incoming calls. If I am reading the TransSys docs correctly, then it would seem the serial port is free for other services when SLIP is not in use. -- Mark T. Dornfeld, CYANTIC Systems Voice: (416) 234-9048 101 Subway Crescent Suite 2103 Facsimile: (416) 234-0477 Etobicoke, Ontario, M9B 6K4 CANADA Email: mark@cyantic.com
From: glenn@rightbrain.com (Glenn Reid) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: what word processors are left? Message-ID: <1409@rtbrain.rightbrain.com> Date: 7 Dec 93 18:57:31 GMT References: <2e0c4m$ngt@news.mic.ucla.edu> Sender: glenn@rightbrain.com Ivo Welch writes > PasteUp 2.1 edit 5 on NS/Intel is certainly not anywhere close to usable. > Constant crashes and odd results during edits. There was a crasher bug that was found (and fixed) related to double-clicking to select words. If you double-clicked right at the end (or beginning, as I recall) of a word, the cursor would seem to disappear (because it was selecting nonsense). If you then performed any operation on this "selection", typed characters, changed the font, or whatever, it would crash. This might account for all of your crashes during edits all by itself, if you double-click a lot to select words. I think you can get the newer version from AFS. It's amazing the documents I've seen produced with this software that's "not anywhere close to usable." 48-page manuals for Mac software products, four-color brochures, post cards, a 100-page catalog.... It may be that there are remaining bugs, but whether or not it is "usable" evidently depends on how you use it. -- Glenn Reid glenn@rightbrain.com Woodside, California
From: a5g192@rick.cs.ubc.ca (Wei-Yuen Tan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Doom Beta: How do I get it? Date: 7 Dec 1993 17:30:22 -0800 Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada Distribution: world Message-ID: <2e3aneINN49n@keats.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca> Where can I get the Doom Beta for NeXTStep? Someone help me out plz. Can one run it on monochrome black hardware running NS2.1?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: finkenst@enmu.edu (Tim Finkenstadt) Subject: Re: Is there a News reader for NextStep/Intel ? Sender: news@math.enmu.edu Message-ID: <1993Dec8.024809.8259@math.enmu.edu> Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1993 02:48:09 GMT References: <javaman.103.000FAF6F@ccmail.com> Organization: Mathematical Sciences Department In article 000FAF6F@ccmail.com, javaman@ccmail.com (Team Caffeine) writes: > Is there a newsreader with a NS interface available for NS/Intel ? > > Anyone? > Thanks, > Mark Anenberg > Lotus/ccMail You betcha. It's called NewsGrazer. :-) --- **************************************************************** Timothy Finkenstadt | finkenst@math.enmu.edu Eastern New Mexico University | finkenst@ziavms.enmu.edu ****************************************************************
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: takken@raven.Stanford.EDU (Todd Takken) Subject: Re: what word processors are left? Message-ID: <1993Dec8.024805.10648@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: Stanford University References: <1993Dec7.041845.462@stone.com> Distribution: su Date: Wed, 8 Dec 93 02:48:05 GMT In article <1993Dec7.041845.462@stone.com> andrew@stone.com (Andrew Stone) writes: > There's always Microsoft Word Macintosh flavor, using Executor from >ARDI on NEXTSTEP. Can one copy and paste between MSWord/Executor and all of the regular NeXT apps? -- Todd Takken takken@raven.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.os.ms-windows.apps,comp.os.os2.apps,comp.sys.next.software From: terryl@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Terry Lee) Subject: Inventory control and Distribution software recommendations Message-ID: <1993Dec8.033148.21813@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU Organization: Stanford University Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1993 03:31:48 GMT I am trying to decide whether to purchase Macintoshes or PCs. My main need for these computers will be for inventory control and Distribution. I would like to go with Macintoshes simply because they are easier to use, but I do need a very sophisticated software system. Obviously there is more software available for the PC platform. I am looking for recommendations for an Inventory control and Distribution system that can do the following: 1) Will use bar coding for product identification. 2) Can handle both manufacturing and distribution. I need a system that can track product manufacturing in London, shipping to distribution in Taipei and Hong Kong, and shipping to retail outlets. 3) It should also place orders from Hong Kong and Taipei to London. 4) Do invoicing, and everything else such a program normally does. I will probably invest in internet feeds for overseas communications, although if a modem system is more cost effective, I would consider it also. So can some of you point me in the right direction? Terry Lee terryl@cs.stanford.edu
From: alevine@ucsd.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Is 3.2 black out? Date: 7 Dec 1993 20:52:54 GMT Organization: The Avant-Garde of the Now, Ltd. Distribution: usa Message-ID: <2e2qf6INN6po@network.ucsd.edu> References: <1993Dec3.220041.1675@radical2.radical.com> In article <1993Dec3.220041.1675@radical2.radical.com> Ralph_Jung@radical.com (Ralph Jung) writes: > I received 3.2 for Intel User version on 11/22. No Developer version. I > phoned NeXT on 11/29 and they had a record of my registration for 3.1 for Intel > User and one Developer, but no record for 3.1 for NeXT User or the other > Developer. I received 3.2 for NeXT User version today, 12/3. Still not a > single developer version. (sigh) > > --- > > Ralph Jung ( Ralph_Jung@Radical.Com ) > Radical System Solutions, Inc. NeXTmail accepted > rad~i~cal \'rad-i-kel\ adj. - marked by a considerable departure from the usual > or traditional: EXTREME You think THAT's weird--it's at least conceivable that someone might own the user package without the developer stuff. The converse, however, is not...but sure enough, I got the devo tools only. I left a message on the order center machine. It took two days for them to get back to me, but when they did, they were very kind and cooperative. Perhaps worth a try... -- Alexander Levine Department of Philosophy alevine@ucsd.edu 0302, UCSD NeXTMail fine La Jolla, CA 92093 ************************************************ Disclaimer: I am responsible for all opinions expressed by anyone at any time.
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: PD SLIP for 3.2 Slab Date: 7 Dec 1993 20:58:10 +0100 Organization: Palumbian Research Labs Message-ID: <2e2n8i$g4@marsu.tynet.sub.org> References: <1993Dec04.205142.13385@cyantic.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit mark@cyantic.com (Mark T. Dornfeld) writes: >Where can I get SLIP for a NS 3.2 Slab? I'd prefer public domain, but will >go commercial if the PD stuff doesn't work. >I have an old version from the Walnut Creek Nova CD, but there must be >something newer out there. Get TransSys PNI 1.6 beta. Works just fine on NS 3.2 (Intel), and there's no reason why it shouldn't on Motorola. It uses Tcl which can be customized easily. -- Marsu: "Es gibt tatsaechlich Leute, die ohne Computer gluecklich und zufrieden leben." -- Frankie: "Ach was, die emulieren das doch nur!" ----- Markus Wenzel System administration, Consulting, Networking mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org on... NeXTSTEP / Unix / Novell / Windows NT IRC: Marsu Intel aside.
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Gator-FTP for Intel?? Date: 7 Dec 1993 21:04:58 +0100 Organization: Palumbian Research Labs Message-ID: <2e2nla$gv@marsu.tynet.sub.org> References: <CHGzsF.6MG@percy.rain.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit steve@eps.rain.com (Steve Kornreich) writes: >Does GatorFTP exist for Intel platform? and where could I find it.. It exists. Try cs.orst.edu or ftp.uni-stuttgart.de. -- Marsu: "Es gibt tatsaechlich Leute, die ohne Computer gluecklich und zufrieden leben." -- Frankie: "Ach was, die emulieren das doch nur!" ----- Markus Wenzel System administration, Consulting, Networking mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org on... NeXTSTEP / Unix / Novell / Windows NT IRC: Marsu Intel aside.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software From: fabien@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy) Subject: MaxAudio (VaporWare or not) Message-ID: <1993Dec7.211557.10763@free.fdn.org> Sender: news@free.fdn.org Organization: Fabien Roy Electronic Engineering (F.R.E.E.) - Paris, France. Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1993 21:15:57 GMT Has anybody heard of MaxAudio from Harvard Toolworks, I tried E-mail, fax and I did not get any answer. I first met them at May 1993 NeXTWorld Expo and they were advertising MaxAudio audio/SMPTE/MIDI rack module with 15-pins NeXT DSP-port cable -> $450 AES/EBU, S/PDIF Digital audio option -> $150 Programmable stereo gain control -> $50 MaxAudio ISA-bus 56001 card -> $295 I really need to know if it's another VAPORWARE company because their prices seems quite reasonable to me. They are located at: Harvard Toolworks 91 Ann Lee Road Harvard, MA 01451 tel: 508 772 44 20 fax: 508 772 46 03 E-mail: info@magdalen.dmc.com --Fabien --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org (NextMails accepted) Fabien Roy Electronic Engineering 3 rue ANDRE DANJON, 75019 PARIS, France, Tel: 33 1 4040 0206 Fax: 33 1 4040 0641
From: burton@het.brown.edu (Joshua W. Burton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Gopher 1.3.2 problem -- .GIFs? Date: 8 Dec 1993 04:04:21 GMT Organization: Brown University Message-ID: <2e3jo5$3nk@cat.cis.Brown.EDU> For some reason Gopher.app will download .gif files for me without trouble, but fails to bring in .GIF files (capital letters). It produces a file called Gopher<some-unique-number>.gif (small letters) that is zero bytes long, which of course the GIF-reading program can't make anything of. This looks to me like some sort of a broken-pipe problem: Gopher.app creates a file with the lower-case extension, and then tries to write something with the upper-case extension into it and fails, leaving a size-zero file. Is my analysis correct, and if so can anything be done to fix the code? I would not be a bit surprised if this is a well-known bug, long ago fixed in the newest version. But I have version 1.3.2, and I'm not likely to be able to run a newer one until I upgrade to 3.x. Sigh...I suppose I'm going to have to make the upgrade after all if this keeps up. But perhaps someone knows the patch that will get me out of this particular fix? Thanks for the help. I'll let you know if I get anywhere with it on my own.... A host is a host, from coast to coast, |============================ And no one will talk to a host that's close; | J. W. Burton (401)435-6370 Unless the host that isn't close | burton@het.brown.edu Is busy, hung, or dead. |============================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mshaler@tdocad.sps.mot.com (Michael Shaler) Subject: Printing: "_nxfinalform" vs. "_finalform" Message-ID: <CHp63z.3AH@tdocad.sps.mot.com> Sender: news@tdocad.sps.mot.com Organization: Nippon Motorola Ltd., Tokyo, Japan Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1993 03:38:23 GMT The 3.1 release documents contain something of a contradiction. If one wants PostScript fonts and other data automatically downloaded to the printer with each print job, one need only add a property to the NetInfo entry for each respective printer. In the first part of the release notes, this property is designated as "_nxfinalform." In the bug fixes summary (30117) later on in the notes, it is designated as "_finalform." Which works? -- Michael Shaler Tokyo Design Center Nippon Motorola Ltd. +813 3280 8245 voice +813 3440 0033 fax mshaler@tdocad.sps.mot.com [NeXTmail]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: strebel1@gwdu03.gwdg.de (Stephan Trebels ) Subject: IBEditors example? Message-ID: <WCVJBDCH@gwdu03.gwdg.de> Sender: news@gwdu03.gwdg.de (USENET News System) Organization: GWDG, Goettingen Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1993 16:43:31 GMT Hello, is there any example for an IBEditor inside a Palette? I would like a behaviour like Box's editor, i.e. if double-clicked it's entered... I tried a bit, but it never seemed to work. So, if anyone has done this somewhere, I would appreciate an answer. Thanks, Stephan -- trebels@theo-phys.gwdg.de
From: dabbous@sapwdf.UUCP (Hussayn Dabbous) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: X11R5 Summary: making X11R5 on the NeXT Keywords: X11R5 Message-ID: <5520@sapwdf.UUCP> Date: 7 Dec 93 18:11:15 GMT Organization: S.A.P. AG, Walldorf Germany Hy, there. I have have a copy of the Xnext server (Mouse-X,executable) This copy seems not to understand the .pcf fonts generated, when i made X11R5 from the standard MIT distribution. It always terminates with a message like "could not find fixed font". 1.) Does anybody know, if Xnext can be configured to run with the .pcf fonts ? 2.) How can i switch from the X-window back to NextStep without terminating the X-session ? If anybody could help me, please contact me at: dabbous@sap-ag.de cheers, Hussayn Dabbous
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: ctm@ardi.com Subject: Re: HELP: MS Word filter for WriteNow? Message-ID: <CHpqLr.IE9@cobra.cs.unm.edu> Sender: news@cobra.cs.unm.edu Organization: ARDI References: <1993Dec5.204304.2625@leland.Stanford.EDU> <1993Dec7.194205.1183@proximus.north.de> Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1993 11:01:05 GMT In article <1993Dec7.194205.1183@proximus.north.de> gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller) writes: >Michael C Hsueh (hsueh@leland.Stanford.EDU) wrote: >> Does anybody know of a document filter that will allow WriteNow to import >> Microsoft Word 5.1 documents from the Mac? If you do, please let me know >> via email. Thanks. > >I'd say: "No way", as Word is MUCH more powerful than WN. But if ANYONE >knows abount ANY way to edit Word 5.1 files from the Mac on a NeXT and save >them so that the Mac can read them again with Word, please let me know. I'm >looking for such a tool for 2 years now, and will end up in buying a Mac. >Sad, but true. I NEED Word for Work. Simple as that. :-( Executor/NEXTSTEP can do what you want. More information can be had by sending a request to "questions@ardi.com". Be sure to specify that you are interested in the NEXTSTEP version of Executor and also be sure to say whether or not you can handle NEXTmail. If you can use anonymous ftp, you can pick up a time-limited copy of Executor/NEXTSTEP from "ftp.cs.unm.edu" in "pub/ardi/Executor_130.tar". Remember to use "binary" mode for the copy. Of course since Word is a commercial product, we can't include it with Executor, but it *does* run and we have hundreds of people using it under Executor/NEXTSTEP. --Cliff ctm@ardi.com
From: wkwong@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Waihon A Kwong) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Latex Filter for FrameMaker? Date: 8 Dec 1993 15:30:39 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Distribution: usa Message-ID: <2e4ruv$atm@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Hi, I'm curious if there is a filter for FrameMaker so that it can read in LaTex documents and visa versa. This will be a good function that allow researcher to write technical papers and view them in an excellent environment. -- //|| // @ E-mail: wkwong@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu // || // @ wkwong@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu //==||/\\ @ // || \\ @ "If you put your mind to it, you can accompish anything!"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy From: lorinr@altsys.com (Lorin Rivers III) Subject: Re: Features of Tailor.app that I want to see in all other apps. Message-ID: <1993Dec8.151505.8873@altsys.com> Keywords: Tailor, PostScript, Editor Organization: Altsys Corporation, Richardson, TX References: <CHGCzI.3wG@well.sf.ca.us> <1993Dec7.163759.22040@altsys.com> <CHop2E.1Ls@well.sf.ca.us> Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1993 15:15:05 GMT In article <CHop2E.1Ls@well.sf.ca.us> ludwig@well.sf.ca.us (Michael Rutchik) writes: > >Re: Click & Type in Virtuoso > >Lorin, > >Play around with Illustrator 5 for a few minutes. I think you'll see what I >mean. As you probably know, I'm dealing mostly with Packaging Graphics. >Quite often I simply need to add a line or two of type in some remote corner >of a package. The two ways of doing this in virtouso involve either a big >text box or the need to first create a path (or two) and link the type to >it. Both of these methods are very cumbersome in such an instance. Seeing as >how such instances occur 30 - 50 times a day this is my #1 feature request. OK, I see what you mean. Here's a (hopefully) acceptable work-around: Click and drag to size the text container before you type (it works sort of like the rectangle drawing tool). The reason ``just click and type'' makes a (somewhat) large container is that we didn't want a bunch of empty 0 by 0 containers lying around when people clicked with the text tool... >I forget if I mentioned it earlier, but another much needed feature would be >the ability to save as an eps but still be able to edit the file in >Virtuoso. Like Illustrators save with eps header option. This would be >especially valuable in NS since the exact same file could be edited by me >and viewed through drag & drop by any other NS app. The only trick I see >here would be to get Virtuoso to recognize .eps files that were really .vrt >files. (it's beginning to sound alot like tailor :-) That's a feature in Virty 2. I'm also trying to convince the author of Tailor to export files Virtuoso can read natively >Last but not least! Why doesn't Virtuoso use the edit menus spell checking >capabilities?!?! One of my primary resons for getting NS in-house was >because of the highly sensible common spell checker. The place I need it >most is in your app. Virtuoso 2 again! >I hope this has been of interest to the group. I decided to post it here to >give some more visibility to this outstanding app. > >Thanks, >Michael Rutchik >ludwig@well.sf.ca.us -- Lorin Rivers Lorin_Rivers@altsys.com NEXTSTEP Sales Manager 214.680.2060 269 W. Renner Parkway NeXT Mail Expected Richardson, Texas 75080 I said it, not my boss
From: powell@tropic.aoml.erl.gov (Mark Powell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.hp Subject: NEXTSTEP Portable Distributed Objects for HP Released Yet? Date: 8 Dec 1993 16:10:07 GMT Organization: U.S. Department of Commerce, NOAA/AOML Message-ID: <2e4u90$it2@wave.aoml.erl.gov> Has PDO for HP been released yet? If so how much is it? Who can you buy it from? Any comments on performance and how it is being applied within the "enterprise" would be greatly appreciated. -- Dr. Mark D. Powell Research Meteorologist, CCM (Swimmer, Windsurfer, user of NEXTSTEP) NOAA Hurricane Research Division (appropriate disclaimers apply) Miami, Fl 33149 Voice (305) 361-4403 Fax (305) 361-4402
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: gary@nshade.uah.ualberta.ca (Gary Ritchie) Subject: Re: HELP: MS Word filter for WriteNow? Message-ID: <1993Dec8.153252.13967@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada References: <1993Dec7.194205.1183@proximus.north.de> Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1993 15:32:52 GMT > I'd say: "No way", as Word is MUCH more powerful than WN. But if > ANYONE knows abount ANY way to edit Word 5.1 files from the Mac > on a NeXT and save them so that the Mac can read them again with > Word, please let me know. I'm looking for such a tool for 2 years > now, and will end up in buying a Mac. Sad, but true. I NEED Word > for Work. Simple as that. :-( > Try "Executor", the Mac emulator. It is supposed to run Word 5.1 very well. Works on black and white hardware. There's a demo on cs.orst.edu, mail questions@ardi.com for more info. -- Gary Ritchie : NeXT Programmer Department of Medicine (Neurology) : University of Alberta Hospital gary@uaneuro.uah.ualberta.ca : NEXTMAIL Welcome (403) 492-8648
From: silbar@cantina.lanl.gov (Dick Silbar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Not setting TEXINPUTS successfully -- CLARIFIED Date: 8 Dec 1993 11:03:47 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9312081657.AA02788@cantina.lanl.gov> Yesterday I posted: Rather than become root and link all my particular TeX style files into /usr/lib/tex/inputs (which lets them be wiped out if one re-installs NeXTTeX), I'd prefer having each user on this machine be able to set their own TEXINPUTS path. So, I put the following line into my .cshrc file: setenv TEXINPUTS=".:/Users/silbar/Papers/TeXstuff:\ /Users/silbar/Papers/TeXstuff/revtex3:\ /usr/lib/tex/inputs" (Actually, it is all one line; the backslashes are not there.) THIS doesn't do anything for me, but I sure thought it would. (Did it, on my 3.0 NeXT? -- I don't quite remember.) So, what am I doing wrong? Have I only misspelled something? Actually I DID have a misspelling, here in the posting -- the equals sign should not be there, as several people pointed out. In fact, it isn't/wasn't there in my .login file (not the .cshrc file). Eric Sowa <sowa@amdew.llnl.gov> replied with a very astute comment: It depends on how you are invoking TeX. Does it work from the shell but not from some other app? He's right on the money: If I invoke TeX from a C-shell command line, all works well and it finds the non-standard .sty file in my directories (revtex.sty, as you might guess). That isn't my normal procedure, however, and frankly it didn't occur to me to try it until he asked. What I normally do is have the .tex file up in Edit, and then call TeX as a TeXView Service, so that I "immediately" see not only the TeX compilation but the displayed .dvi file. It's the *SERVICES* invocation that doesn't find the TEXINPUTS path! Hmm, now how do I fix this so I can proceed as usual? Matthew Seamon <Matthew.Seaman@dyson.ox.ac.uk> provides an answer (which I haven't tried yet but which sounds like it surely works): Well, that would work if you invoked TeX or LaTeX from the shell command line, but as TeXview never goes anywhere near the shell, it probably won't help you very much if you run that. There is, however, a dwrite that achieves much the same result... something like: dwrite TeXview TEXINPUTS .:/Users/silbar/Papers/TeXstuff:\ /Users/silbar/Papers/TeXstuff/revtex3:/usr/lib/tex/inputs Although it might be ';' between path elements rather than ':' --- the only dwrite of a directory search path I have is Workspace's, and that uses ';', but these things are entirely at the discretion of the programmer, and I suspect that Thomas Rokicki would stick with the more shellish ':' Again, thanks to all who replied and helped me on this! Dick Silbar WhistleSoft, Inc.
From: wrb@biostr.washington.edu (William Barker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP Portable Distributed Objects for HP Released Yet? Message-ID: <2e5552$n6q@news.u.washington.edu> Date: 8 Dec 93 18:07:30 GMT Article-I.D.: news.2e5552$n6q References: <2e4u90$it2@wave.aoml.erl.gov> Organization: University of Washington In article <2e4u90$it2@wave.aoml.erl.gov> powell@tropic.aoml.erl.gov (Mark Powell) writes: > Has PDO for HP been released yet? If so how much is it? Who can you buy > it from? Any comments on performance and how it is being applied within > the "enterprise" would be greatly appreciated. > > -- > Dr. Mark D. Powell > Research Meteorologist, CCM (Swimmer, Windsurfer, user of NEXTSTEP) > NOAA Hurricane Research Division (appropriate disclaimers apply) > Miami, Fl 33149 Voice (305) 361-4403 Fax (305) 361-4402 I attended the "NEXTSTEP: The Object Advantage" seminar in Seattle (actually, Bellevue) yesterday, and Ron Weissman, Director of Corporate Marketing for NeXT, said PDO for HP is shipping and is priced at $2500 to $10,000, depending on the server environment. During the technical demo, a HP 735 running PDO was used to calculate a Mandlebrot set, while an Epson NX did the same thing. The Espon was used to display the results. The PDO calculation was really fast, at least compared to the Epson. By the way, the Espon used for the demo is by far the snappiest NS system vis-a-vis graphics response I've seen. It was a 66DX2 with 32MB of RAM and a Wingine graphics subsystem at 1024X768 color. You probably want to contact NeXT to find out about availability of PDO. bb -- Bill Barker Biological Structure, SM-20 University of Washington Seattle WA 98195 (206) 543-7315 "In Wine there is Wisdom, In Beer there is Strength; In Water is Bacteria." --Old German Saying.
From: cahalan@clouds.gsfc.nasa.gov (Robert F. Cahalan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP Portable Distributed Objects for HP Released Yet? Date: 8 Dec 1993 18:45:48 GMT Organization: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center -- InterNetNews site Distribution: world Message-ID: <2e57cs$4ab@skates.gsfc.nasa.gov> References: <2e4u90$it2@wave.aoml.erl.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In article <2e4u90$it2@wave.aoml.erl.gov> powell@tropic.aoml.erl.gov (Mark Powell) writes: > Has PDO for HP been released yet? If so how much is it? Who can you buy > it from? Any comments on performance and how it is being applied within > the "enterprise" would be greatly appreciated. > > -- > Dr. Mark D. Powell > Research Meteorologist, CCM (Swimmer, Windsurfer, user of NEXTSTEP) > NOAA Hurricane Research Division (appropriate disclaimers apply) > Miami, Fl 33149 Voice (305) 361-4403 Fax (305) 361-4402 Quoting from the announcement I received from NeXT, prices for PDO release 1.0 for HP-UX 9.0 are: Server Type List Price HP 715 or 725 $2,500 HP 735 or 755 $5,000 HP 9000 Corporate Server $10,000 Contact: Karen Logsdon, NeXT Computer, Inc (415) 780-3786 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ .Dr. Robert F. Cahalan (Bob)...#..Laboratory for Atmospheres...... .cahalan@clouds.gsfc.nasa.gov..#..NASA-Goddard Space Flight Center .*** NeXTMail accepted ***.....#..Greenbelt, MD 20771............. .FAX: (301) 286-1627...........#..voice: (301) 286-4276........... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: spb@news.uoregon.edu (Steven Berry) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Accessing DOS partition from NEXTSTEP Date: 8 Dec 1993 19:14:12 GMT Organization: University of Oregon Message-ID: <2e5924$cph@pith.uoregon.edu> References: <CHBH46.G53@sybase.com> <2dis91$hkn@pith.uoregon.edu> <CHn8x3.F35@sybase.com> Michael Brill (brill@sybase.com) wrote: : >The DOS partition should automount at startup. If not, try 'mount -o dos : >/dev/rhd0b /xxxx' where xxxx is your mount point from a terminal window from : >your root account. : Steve: : Thanks for the advice, but no luck... I'm not much of a Unix guy, but when : I type: : #mount -o dos /dev/rsd0b /brill : I get: : mount: /dev/rsd0b on /usr/u/brill: Device busy : mount: giving up on: : /usr/u/brill I was mistaken on my first message. Substitute -t for -o. -t dos specifies the file system of the partition you're trying to mount, -o is for specifying other options. Sorry. Also, try rsd0h, although it should'nt work if your drive is partitioned, it worked on one of mine. Steve
From: brunkhorst@mayo.edu (Geoff Brunkhorst) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: (RTF) 3.2 FIP Install and Upgrade and 3.2 Anomalies Date: 8 Dec 1993 19:36:30 GMT Organization: Mayo Foundation Distribution: world Message-ID: <2e5abu$msh@fermat.mayo.edu> Environment: Sun Server (10/41) with Xedoc Netinfo Server software 9 Intel Pro/GXs 500 and 250MB Quantum IDE disk drives 24mb of Memory Intel EtherExpress with the 10BaseT Cisco Router Network using 'subsidiary network option' (running multiple subnets on one Ethernet) The Suns and NeXTs are on a subsidiary network. Cabletron MRXI Install: Had a 1542CF Adaptec... which is not supported in 3.1. So I took down one of the Pro/GXs and INSTALLED 3.2 user on this system, cookbook out of the release notes and NextAnswers errata sheets, using the 1542CF card. Installation went very well. 2 problems with the install of the User environment: 1) it doesn't install /usr/sybase/*. This is part of the developer environment. 2) Sybase Adaptors now default to 4.6. We noted someproblems with this in our applications. I installed our Developer system on this box as well. This corrected #1), except the libraries default to Sybase 4.6. Upgrades: I then built this box into an Upgrade server. I upgraded 2 'client' systems and noted the following: 0) The upgrade over the net took about 40 minutes, 25 of which was generating the upgrade plan. 1) The old /usr/sybase is not deleted... This was good. 2) The driver Instance0.tables did not upgrade... For example, the new ATI/GX driver only require 6 bytes of I/O memory, whereas the old one required 49bytes. After trial and error, I cleaned up #2 by taking the /usr/Devices folder off the Installed 3.2 system and dropping it in the upgrade systems, and then turning off the SCSI support. This worked and gave me a consistent driver environment. Obtw, the ATI driver on Rev 3 hardware 'almost works now' in 60hz 1120*832 16bit mode. Some flyback lines exist on the left side of the screen. Overall the system is quite a bit snappier. Sound is a welcome thing, although some of the standard sounds seem a bit 'cracky'. Current open issues: - Using the PS/2 Mouse port. I have a couple of Microsoft serial mice with PS/2 adapters, and I have yet to figure out how to get them to work with the PS/2 mouse port. - In booting in config=Default mode, the system would hang trying to configure the BusMouse. this was fixed by booting single user and removing the references to BusMouse in /usr/Devices/System.config/Default.* - On one tested 3.2 system, running BenchPress.app hard crashes the Pro/GX when running the 100-thread test. Anyone have Ideas on these? Anyone else seen this problem? Major anomaly - The current major problem is one concerning the network. The one Installed 3.2 system and one of the upgraded 3.2 systems don't connect to the network in the same way as the 3rd, or as any of the 3.1 systems. The network is a 'subsidiary net' - Cisco Routers allow an ethernet interface to support multiple IP subnets on a single wire. These NEXTSTEP boxes are on such a wire. The main network is 129.176.100.x, and the minor is 129.176.141.x. (this is done to allow installation of new subnets before the infrastructure is in place to support them, and not require continual reconfigging the desktops on the net when the systems are moved from net to net). Anyway, the 2 clients in question will not bind to the Netinfo server, unless the servers address is explicitly listed in their './local' netinfo domain, similar to a situation where the server is on another subnet. However, here it is not. All are on the same ethernet, all have the same subnet and subnet masks, and all are using the same broadcast address. (and all worked under 3.1) Also, the affected systems cannot determine their host names from the net (/etc/hostconfig HOSTNAME=-AUTOMATIC-). Hostname determination is done early in the startup, before rc.net, router adds, and netinfo startup. Here is the picture: All clients have the following hostconfig file: # HOSTNAME=hostname INETADDR=-AUTOMATIC- ROUTER=129.176.141.1 IPNETMASK=255.255.255.0 IPBROADCAST=129.176.141.0 NETMASTER=-NO- YPDOMAIN=-NO- TIME=-AUTOMATIC- now, the problem seems to be that the affected clients (crcsysman) have a traceroute like: crcsysman:1# traceroute phoenix traceroute to phoenix (129.176.141.10), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 ecisco-100.mayo.edu (129.176.100.4) 13 ms 3 ms 3 ms ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 2 phoenix (129.176.141.10) 3 ms 3 ms 3 ms crcsysman:6# netstat -r Routing tables Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Interface localhost localhost UH 2 2859 lo0 default ccisco-141.mayo.ed UG 27 131426 en0 129.176 crcsysman U 0 0 en0 ^^^^^^^^^^^ crcsysman:7# ifconfig en0 en0: flags=8063<UP,BROADCAST,NOTRAILERS,RUNNING> inet 129.176.141.11 netmask ffffff00 broadcast 129.176.141.0 crcsysman:3# arp -a ccisco-141.mayo.edu (129.176.141.1) at 0:0:c:4:3f:41 ------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- and the unaffected clients are like: crcdrop3:1# traceroute phoenix traceroute to phoenix (129.176.141.10), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 phoenix (129.176.141.10) 5 ms 3 ms 2 ms crcdrop3:4# netstat -r Routing tables Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Interface localhost localhost UH 1 855 lo0 default ccisco-141.mayo.ed UG 1 3558 en0 129.176.141 crcdrop3 U 18 12920 en0 ^^^^^^^^^^^ crcdrop3:8# ifconfig en0 en0: flags=63<UP,BROADCAST,NOTRAILERS,RUNNING> inet 129.176.141.4 netmask ffffff00 broadcast 129.176.141.0 crcdrop3:2# arp -a ccisco-141.mayo.edu (129.176.141.1) at 0:0:c:4:3f:41 phoenix (129.176.141.10) at 8:0:20:1b:3e:6d ------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- phoenix (the netinfo server) sees: phoenix# netstat -r Routing tables Destination Gateway Flags Refcnt Use Interface localhost localhost UH 6 17178 lo0 default ccisco-141 UG 9 220088 le0 129.176.141.0 phoenix U 59 2024662 le0 phoenix# arp -a ccisco-141.mayo.edu (129.176.141.1) at 0:0:c:4:3f:41 crcdrop3 (129.176.141.4) at 0:aa:0:33:d3:d1 ecisco-100.mayo.edu (129.176.100.4) at 0:0:c:4:3f:41 crcsysman (129.176.141.11) at 0:aa:0:33:cd:47 .. (no traceroute on the sun;-() finally, I also get: Dec 7 14:38:36 crcsysman netmsgserver[21]: datagram_main.netipc_receive fails, kr = -1. Dec 7 15:17:30 crcsysman netmsgserver[21]: srr_main.netipc_receive fails, kr = -1. (what are these?) It's apparent that the ethernet address of the sender is changed if the netinfo bind request is sent via a router, but it's not apparent why this is consistently (over several reboots) happening on 2 machines and not on the one. Obviously crcsysman is seeing something when it starts up routing that wants it to change the from the netmask to the class b mask... Why? The workaround is relatively painless, but I am curious to know if anyone has seen anything similar? Since crcsysman and crcdrop3 are clones in hardware and software, what's the difference? This works without a problem in 3.1 Is it the rev of the ethernet board and some new 3.2 IP code? If so, what is it doing? Is it active ("send my packets to the router") or passive, ("The router tells me to send him the packets") And so it goes... I am waiting on the other 6 installs until some application code is configured and tested for the new sybase environment. Any opinions are welcome - Geoff ----------------------------------------------------------------- Geoffrey Brunkhorst brunkhorst@Mayo.edu Research Computing Facility, Guggenheim 10 (507) 284-1805 Mayo Foundation, Rochester MN, 55905, USA fax (507) 284-5231 -- NewsGrazer, a NeXTstep(tm) news reader, posting -- M>UQR=&8P7&%N<VE[7&9O;G1T8FQ<9C!<9FUO9&5R;B!/:&QF<SM]"EQM87)G M;#$R,`I<;6%R9W(Q,C`*7'!A<F1<='@Q,34R7'1X,C,P-%QT>#,T-39<='@T M-C`X7'1X-3<V,%QT>#8Y,3)<='@X,#8T7'1X.3(Q-EQT>#$P,S8X7'1X,3$U M,C!<9C!<8C!<:3!<=6QN;VYE7&9S,C1<9F,P7&-F,"!%;G9I<F]N;65N=#I< M"B`@4W5N(%-E<G9E<B`H,3`O-#$I('=I=&@@6&5D;V,@3F5T:6YF;R!397)V M97(@<V]F='=A<F5<"B`@.2!);G1E;"!0<F\O1UAS7`H@("`@-3`P(&%N9"`R M-3!-0B!1=6%N='5M($E$12!D:7-K(&1R:79E<UP*("`@(#(T;6(@;V8@365M M;W)Y7`H@("`@26YT96P@171H97)%>'!R97-S('=I=&@@=&AE(#$P0F%S951< M"B`@("!#:7-C;R!2;W5T97(@3F5T=V]R:R!U<VEN9R`G<W5B<VED:6%R>2!N M971W;W)K(&]P=&EO;B=<"B`@("`@*')U;FYI;F<@;75L=&EP;&4@<W5B;F5T M<R!O;B!O;F4@171H97)N970I(%1H92!3=6YS(&%N9%P*("`@("!.95A4<R!A 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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy From: ludwig@well.sf.ca.us (Michael Rutchik) Subject: Re: Features of Tailor.app that I want to see in all other apps. Message-ID: <CHqFFw.MvJ@well.sf.ca.us> Keywords: Tailor, PostScript, Editor Sender: news@well.sf.ca.us Organization: The Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link, Sausalito, CA References: <CHGCzI.3wG@well.sf.ca.us> <1993Dec7.163759.22040@altsys.com> <CHop2E.1Ls@well.sf.ca.us> <1993Dec8.151505.8873@altsys.com> Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1993 19:57:31 GMT lorinr@altsys.com (Lorin Rivers III) writes: >In article <CHop2E.1Ls@well.sf.ca.us> ludwig@well.sf.ca.us (Michael Rutchik) writes: >> >>Re: Click & Type in Virtuoso >> >>Lorin, >> >>Play around with Illustrator 5 for a few minutes. I think you'll see what I >>mean. As you probably know, I'm dealing mostly with Packaging Graphics. >>Quite often I simply need to add a line or two of type in some remote corner >>of a package. The two ways of doing this in virtouso involve either a big >>text box or the need to first create a path (or two) and link the type to >>it. Both of these methods are very cumbersome in such an instance. Seeing as >>how such instances occur 30 - 50 times a day this is my #1 feature request. >OK, I see what you mean. Here's a (hopefully) acceptable work-around: >Click and drag to size the text container before you type (it works >sort of like the rectangle drawing tool). The reason ``just click and >type'' makes a (somewhat) large container is that we didn't want >a bunch of empty 0 by 0 containers lying around when people clicked >with the text tool... >>I forget if I mentioned it earlier, but another much needed feature would be >>the ability to save as an eps but still be able to edit the file in >>Virtuoso. Like Illustrators save with eps header option. This would be >>especially valuable in NS since the exact same file could be edited by me >>and viewed through drag & drop by any other NS app. The only trick I see >>here would be to get Virtuoso to recognize .eps files that were really .vrt >>files. (it's beginning to sound alot like tailor :-) >That's a feature in Virty 2. I'm also trying to convince the author of >Tailor to export files Virtuoso can read natively >>Last but not least! Why doesn't Virtuoso use the edit menus spell checking >>capabilities?!?! One of my primary resons for getting NS in-house was >>because of the highly sensible common spell checker. The place I need it >>most is in your app. >Virtuoso 2 again! >>I hope this has been of interest to the group. I decided to post it here to >>give some more visibility to this outstanding app. >> >>Thanks, >>Michael Rutchik >>ludwig@well.sf.ca.us >-- >Lorin Rivers Lorin_Rivers@altsys.com >NEXTSTEP Sales Manager 214.680.2060 >269 W. Renner Parkway NeXT Mail Expected >Richardson, Texas 75080 I said it, not my boss Thanks for the update Lorin. Any idea when 2.0 will ship? Will it still be called Virtuoso? I went to the Freehand 4.0 release party in SF. When I first spoke to you you described Virtuoso as "Freehand on steroids!" It looks like FH 4.0 is now Virtuoso for the mac. Thanks again Michael
From: uzi@merlot.cse.ogi.edu (Uzi Levin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Plotting application? Message-ID: <62571@ogicse.ogi.edu> Date: 8 Dec 93 21:17:15 GMT Article-I.D.: ogicse.62571 Sender: news@ogicse.ogi.edu Is there a public domain object/application for on-line plotting? thanks, -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Uzi Levin Tel: (503) 690-1667 < > OGI, CSE Fax: (503) 690-1688 < > P.O.Box 91000 email:uzi@cse.ogi.edu < > Portland, OR 97291-1000 < -----------------------------------------------------------------
From: brian@arl.wustl.edu (Brianosaurus) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: PGP for NEXTSTEP Date: 8 Dec 1993 21:20:57 GMT Organization: Washington University, St. Louis, MO Message-ID: <2e5gfp$51e@wuecl.wustl.edu> References: <rawyattCHnLCI.LJL@netcom.com> In article <rawyattCHnLCI.LJL@netcom.com> rawyatt@netcom.com (Robert Wyatt) writes: > > Is a version of PGP available for NEXTSTEP? I realize that is has been > compiled to run on Unix, but has anyone tried running it under NEXTSTEP? > Or (hopeful), is a version available with a NEXTSTEP interface... > > What about other encryption schemes? What kind of encryption systems > are available for NEXTSTEP? > A while back some friends of min enad I were messing around with PGP. I compiled it for my NeXT and then wrote a little TickleServices add in to support PGP stuff. I never got around to posting it on any ftp sites, but if there is any interest, I can do so. -- Brian Gottlieb brian@clarisse.wustl.edu
From: Travis_Werklund@mindlink.bc.ca (Travis Werklund) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: BBS Software Date: 8 Dec 93 20:15:49 GMT Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada Distribution: world Message-ID: <33986@mindlink.bc.ca> I am looking for information on running a BBS on NeXT and I was wondering if anyone is aware of any software that would facilitate this. I have one, possibly two, TurboColor Workstations and a 486 running NSFIP. Any information would be appreciated. You can post the info here or E-mail me privately at Travis_Werklund@mindlink.bc.ca Thank you -- ============================================================================== == Travis Werklund "He who has a why to live E-Mail: Travis_Werklund@mindlink.bc.ca can bear with almost any how" Phone: (604)985-9780 -Nietzche
From: slwdz@cc.usu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Indexing kit not indexing... Message-ID: <1993Dec8.124211.5736@cc.usu.edu> Date: 8 Dec 93 12:42:11 MDT Organization: Utah State University (Using the indexing kit...) I have a very simple app that is based on the Mini Example Record manager. The data record contains two indexed strings. Very simple app. It just reads in a bunch of string groups (around 400,000 of them :-) and then allows you to type in one string and it gives you the corresponding string and visa versa. Well...I added all the records and everything seemed to be working well, but later I noticed that one of the strings wasn't indexed for every record. About 3% of those strings the index didn't know anything about. Very odd. So I ended up re-adding all of those records again...that it couldn't find. Major pain. How do you re-build an index with the indexing kit? I tried removing the attribute, and then adding the attribute...but that just trashed my index for that attribute. Does anyone have any suggestions? John Zollinger slwdz@cc.usu.edu
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP Portable Distributed Objects for HP Released Yet? Date: 9 Dec 1993 00:54:05 GMT Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz Distribution: world Message-ID: <2e5sve$bep@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> References: <2e57cs$4ab@skates.gsfc.nasa.gov> In article <2e57cs$4ab@skates.gsfc.nasa.gov> cahalan@clouds.gsfc.nasa.gov (Robert F. Cahalan) writes: > Quoting from the announcement I received from NeXT, > prices for PDO release 1.0 for HP-UX 9.0 are: > Server Type List Price > HP 715 or 725 $2,500 > HP 735 or 755 $5,000 > HP 9000 Corporate Server $10,000 Whew!! Guess they're pretty proud of PDO :-) Looks like we'll continue running our Sybase calculations using dblib calls from HP-UX executables rather than using PDO and DBKit messages (but maybe PDO doesn't include the non-GUI layers of DBKit anyway). I'm sure the "old-fashioned" approach is faster anyway (but probably less maintainable and definitely Sybase-only). -- Art Isbell Cubic Solutions NeXT Registered Consultant NEXTSTEP software development and consulting NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: +1 408 335 1154 USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: +1 408 335 2515
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dave@alembicla.com(David W. Fahrney) Subject: Re: PGP for NEXTSTEP Message-ID: <CHp85G.1Fv@alembicla.com> Keywords: PGP Sender: dave@alembicla.com (David W. Fahrney) Organization: Alembic Systems International, Ltd. References: <gh18_1600iV0Q0ukN_@andrew.cmu.edu> Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1993 04:22:27 GMT In article <gh18_1600iV0Q0ukN_@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes: !> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 7-Dec-93 PGP for NEXTSTEP !> by Robert Wyatt@netcom.com !> > Is a version of PGP available for NEXTSTEP? I realize that is has been !> > compiled to run on Unix, but has anyone tried running it under NEXTSTEP? !> > Or (hopeful), is a version available with a NEXTSTEP interface... !> !> PGP 2.3 (I think that was the version) compiles fine under NEXTSTEP. !> You don't get any kind of user interface beyond pure text (but you could !> write one, I suppose). !> NXPGP is a NeXTSTEP interface to Phillip Zimmerman's pgp encryption package. NXPGP uses the services menu to allow you to select text in an application and encrypt, decrypt, sign, or check the signature of. This allows the user to decrypt and encrypt mail from inside of Mail.app, sign and check the signatures of articles in NewsGrazer or NewsBase, and encrypt any ascii text from inside of an application, without the bothersome need to save the text to a file, grab a shell window, cd to the directory, type out the pgp command to decrypt, typically having to give a filename for the plaintext (or encrypted text), and then deleting the original, and then opening the file in another application. While not being difficult, the above operation can become quite tedious, and tends to discourage routine usage of pgp for mail and News article posting usage. Note: NXPGP1.0.1 does not actually include pgp, it is a front end for it, so it is legal to distribute NXPGP1.0.1 across the U.S. border. NXPGP1.0.1 is "donateware". You aren't required to give any money to use it, but it would be helpful. Full source code is included, of course. The NXPGP1.0.1.tar.Z file conatins two files: NXPGP.app The 3.0 application itself. NXPGP1.0.tar The tarred 3.0 source. NXPGP1.0.tar.sig A signature of NXPGP1.0.1.tar made with my pgp key. This ensures that the source has not been tampered with. My key is available from the internet key servers. NXPGP1.0.README This file. Remember to use binary mode when downloading NXPGP1.0.1.tar.Z -Sam Pigg (dt1acaa@cfraix.cfr.usf.edu) or (b44729@achilles.ctd.anl.gov) NXPGP1.0.1 is available on one of the archives. -- David W. Fahrney =:-) Alembic Systems International, Los Angeles V: 310.371.6226 F: 310.371.0886
From: ravir@zeus.tamu.edu (Ravi R. - CSC Vectorization/Parallelization) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Problems with "open -a" Date: 8 Dec 1993 14:40 CDT Organization: Texas A&M University OpenVMScluster Distribution: world Message-ID: <8DEC199314402044@zeus.tamu.edu> Keywords: open News-Software: OpenVMS/VAX VNEWS 1.41 Hi, I have been using the open utility with the -a option in attempting to open a plain text file using WriteNow - the command I used is: ravir@riddler(~/misc)[3-0]: open -a /LocalApps/WriteNow.app/WriteNow text-file and I also tried ravir@riddler(~/misc)[4--1]: open -a /LocalApps/WriteNow.app text-file the error message I get in either case is - open: can't open connection to /LocalApps/WriteNow.app on local host. WriteNow does reside on /LocalApps on my machine. Can anyone tell me what I am doing wrong ? I tried setting the Public WIndow Server option in Preferences but to no avail. Thank you for any help. regards -r.r. -- +----------------------+-------------------+----------------------------------+ | ravi ramachandran | ravir@tamu.edu | computing & information services | | texas a&m university | ph (409) 847 UNIX | vectorization/parallelization | +----------------------+-------------------+----------------------------------+
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: ctm@ardi.com Subject: Re: what word processors are left? Message-ID: <CHqoK4.88v@cobra.cs.unm.edu> Sender: news@cobra.cs.unm.edu Organization: ARDI References: <1993Dec7.041845.462@stone.com> <1993Dec8.024805.10648@leland.Stanford.EDU> Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1993 23:14:32 GMT In article <1993Dec8.024805.10648@leland.Stanford.EDU> takken@raven.Stanford.EDU writes: >In article <1993Dec7.041845.462@stone.com> andrew@stone.com (Andrew Stone) >writes: > >> There's always Microsoft Word Macintosh flavor, using Executor from >>ARDI on NEXTSTEP. > >Can one copy and paste between MSWord/Executor and all of the regular NeXT >apps? > >-- Todd Takken > takken@raven.stanford.edu Text and Rich Text Fromat cuts and pastes directly. Pictures are a little more troublesome, because the Mac wants to use a "PICT" pasteboard, something that NEXTSTEP doesn't support directly. However, David John Burrowes has created a nice converter / filter service that will convert between the two. His services are freeware; I think the source is even available (GPLed). In addition to using his filters, you can read EPS and TIFF files into Word 5.1 directly, because Word knows more file formats than it knows pasteboard formats. --Cliff ctm@ardi.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch) Subject: Re: Is there a News reader for NextStep/Intel ? Message-ID: <1993Dec8.223150.8907@seer.demon.co.uk> Sender: paul@seer.demon.co.uk Organization: P & L Systems References: <1993Dec8.024809.8259@math.enmu.edu> Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1993 22:31:50 GMT In article <1993Dec8.024809.8259@math.enmu.edu> finkenst@enmu.edu (Tim Finkenstadt) writes: > In article 000FAF6F@ccmail.com, javaman@ccmail.com (Team Caffeine) writes: > > Is there a newsreader with a NS interface available for NS/Intel ? > > > > Anyone? > > Thanks, > > Mark Anenberg > > Lotus/ccMail > > > You betcha. It's called NewsGrazer. :-) Sorry, but NG isn't available for Intel. Try NewsBase. Paul -- Paul Lynch P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk Tel: (0494)671501 Fax: (0494)680228 9 Stable Lane, Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dkeenen@quack.kfu.com (Dave Keenen) Subject: Where is NextSTEP articals Message-ID: <gaohnm8@quack.kfu.com> Organization: The Duck Pond public unix: +1 408 249 9630, log in as 'guest'. Date: 9 Dec 1993 03:37:25 UTC I am looking for the messages on the Next platform on the Intel, can someone let me kn ow where that is??? keenen@tds.com Dave
From: silbar@cantina.lanl.gov (Dick Silbar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Setting TEXINPUTS in TeXView Services -- the easy way Date: 8 Dec 1993 23:34:12 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9312090528.AA03180@cantina.lanl.gov> Earlier yesterday and today I posted about not being able to see the environment variable TEXINPUTS when I invoke TeX using TeXView Services on a file being worked on in Edit.app. What I had done (which didn't work) was to set the path in my .login file, with ^^^^^^ setenv TEXINPUTS ".:/Users/silbar/TeXstuff:/usr/lib/tex/inputs" . [The double quotes don't hurt but are apparently unnecessary; also, Michal suggests that using $HOME instead of hard-coding the /Users/silbar is better practice.] The problem is TeXView doesn't check for environment in the .login file. It does, however, check the .cshrc file, so moving that 'setenv' line from .login to .cshrc is sufficient for TeXView Services to now find my personal .sty files tucked away in ~/TeXstuff. This last suggestion came to me from Erik Sowa. Earlier Matthew Seamon had suggested one could accomplish the same effect with a dwrite TeXView TEXINPUTS .:/Users/silbar/..., which would probably also work (but isn't QUITE so easy). Paul Ginsparg assures me that all of this material is well-discussed in the release notes for NeXTTeX 3.0. Dick Silbar WhistleSoft, Inc.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.hp From: dgursky@nextsrv1.andi.org (David Gursky) Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP Portable Distributed Objects for HP Released Yet? Message-ID: <dgursky.755438760@news.andi.org> Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International References: <2e4u90$it2@wave.aoml.erl.gov> Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1993 12:06:00 GMT powell@tropic.aoml.erl.gov (Mark Powell) writes: >Has PDO for HP been released yet? If so how much is it? Who can you buy >it from? Any comments on performance and how it is being applied within >the "enterprise" would be greatly appreciated. Yes, PDO is out and available. I don't have specific cost information but I don't think it is more than 10k. -- David M. Gursky MIME and NEXTMAIL accepted Synex, inc. e-mail: .. dgursky@nextsrv1.andi.org 5950 Symphony Woods Road voice: ............. (301) 621-5732 Columbia, MD 21044 fax: ............. (301) 621-6005
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.hp From: mcafee@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Christopher C. McAfee) Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP Portable Distributed Objects for HP Released Yet? Message-ID: <1993Dec9.150501.19015@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University. References: <2e4u90$it2@wave.aoml.erl.gov> Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1993 15:05:01 GMT In article <2e4u90$it2@wave.aoml.erl.gov> powell@tropic.aoml.erl.gov (Mark Powell) writes: >Has PDO for HP been released yet? If so how much is it? Who can you buy >it from? Any comments on performance and how it is being applied within >the "enterprise" would be greatly appreciated. I read in comp.sys.next.___?__ that it has been released, and that you can buy it from NeXT (I think their # is 1-800-TRY-NEXT). people said it can cost $2500 and up depending on the number of users, etc. Chris mcafee@cs.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: lorinr@altsys.com (Lorin Rivers III) Subject: Re: Virtuoso 2.0 Message-ID: <1993Dec9.151652.18604@altsys.com> Keywords: Virtuoso, FreeHand Organization: Altsys Corporation, Richardson, TX References: <CHop2E.1Ls@well.sf.ca.us> <1993Dec8.151505.8873@altsys.com> <CHqFFw.MvJ@well.sf.ca.us> Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1993 15:16:52 GMT Virtuoso 2.0 will ship Q1 94. It may or may not be called FreeHand 4. Regardless, the same people will serve the customers and so forth, so not to worry. -- Lorin Rivers Lorin_Rivers@altsys.com NEXTSTEP Sales Manager 214.680.2060 269 W. Renner Parkway NeXT Mail Expected Richardson, Texas 75080 I said it, not my boss
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jeales@smith.re.ualberta.ca (James Eales) Subject: graphing level sets Message-ID: <1993Dec9.163238.26909@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1993 16:32:38 GMT I have a matrix of function values corresponding to the two variables measured along the x and y axes. What I would like to summarize this data is a plot of the level sets (i.e. like a topographic map). If anyone has suggestions on software to do this please email me at: jeales@muth.re.ualberta.ca Thanks.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: antoine@arrakis.osd.ulaval.ca (Antoine Gautier) Subject: gzip Message-ID: <CHs2Jt.LyF@athena.ulaval.ca> Sender: news@athena.ulaval.ca Organization: CTI, Universite Laval Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1993 17:14:16 GMT I have bee trying to compile gzip on 3.1, I keep getting errors... has anyone done that who could post it on some ftp site (or nextmail it to me)? Thks! Antoine
From: rgc@cs.umd.edu (Ross Garrett Cutler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: SoftPC run Word for Windows 6.0 better than NT! Date: 9 Dec 1993 11:38:08 -0500 Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742 Distribution: world Message-ID: <2e7k9g$fpp@moonpie.cs.umd.edu> I have NS/I 3.2 and Windows NT 3.1 (patch level 2) on a ALR Pentium system. After selling my NeXTstation to get a Pentium, I had to lose Framemaker in NS. I considered getting Frame for Windows and running SoftPC, but Frame is very expensive. When Word for Windows 6.0 came out, I checked it out and it has all of the features I really liked on Frame (e.g. paragraph and character styles). Plus it was dirt cheap ($130). However, much to my dismay, it did not work well under NT. Most importantly, EquationEditor doesn't even run -- it just bombs as soon as you run it! As a CS grad student, I really *need* an equation editor. MS says they had other complaints about this problem, but it's been over a month and no fix (not even a call back!). Now, you would *think* that they would at least check that their top of the line word processor ran on their top of the line OS. I'm not talking about a hidden bug -- the thing just doesn't run! And there are other problems, like PostScript printing is dog, dog slowwwww; you can't print embedded EPS graphics; and none of the demo's work. I was therefore delighted when I ran SoftPC and Word worked great! The speed was not as zippy as under NT, but it is more than adequate (on my setup (with 40 MB RAM)). And EquationEditor -- "it just works." So, if you want a good word processor for NS/I, check out WFW 6.0. If you want a lousy operating system that you can't fax from (because there is no faxing software available) and doesn't run many mainstream programs (e.g. Adobe ATM, Illustrator, ...), check out Windows NT. Ross.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) Subject: Re: Problems with "open -a" In-Reply-To: ravir@zeus.tamu.edu's message of 8 Dec 1993 14:40 CDT To: ravir@zeus.tamu.edu (Ravi R. - CSC Vectorization/Parallelization) Message-ID: <CEDMAN.93Dec9080953@capitalist.princeton.edu> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University References: <8DEC199314402044@zeus.tamu.edu> Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1993 13:09:53 GMT In article <8DEC199314402044@zeus.tamu.edu> ravir@zeus.tamu.edu (Ravi R. - CSC Vectorization/Parallelization) writes: I have been using the open utility with the -a option in attempting to open a plain text file using WriteNow - the command I used is: ravir@riddler(~/misc)[3-0]: open -a /LocalApps/WriteNow.app/WriteNow text-file and I also tried ravir@riddler(~/misc)[4--1]: open -a /LocalApps/WriteNow.app text-file the error message I get in either case is - open: can't open connection to /LocalApps/WriteNow.app on local host. WriteNow does reside on /LocalApps on my machine. Can anyone tell me what I am doing wrong ? You aren't doing anything wrong. It is just that NeXT manages to break one of the most useful command line tools (right next to copy and paste) a little more with every release. Maybe they really don't like us command line users and just want to discourage us ? I tried setting the Public WIndow Server option in Preferences but to no avail. Did you try restarting Workspace after setting Public Window Server ? Others as well as myself have observed that this fixes the problem although whether you can live with the side effects of fix depends on your security requirements. Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) Subject: Recovering images from WordPerfect file? Message-ID: <1993Dec9.181951.24162@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: Stanford University Date: Thu, 9 Dec 93 18:19:51 GMT If I paste a tiff, say, into an Edit document, I can always recover it by simply dragging it out or copying it and pasting it elsewhere. If I try to do this with a tiff that I pasted into WP, I get a really nasty bit-mapped version of the image, rather than the image itself. Is there any way to recover the original tiff? -- - Stefano Pagiola Food Research Institute, Stanford University spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged) spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: brill@sybase.com (Michael Brill) Subject: Accessing DOS partition from NEXTSTEP Message-ID: <CHqn1I.M50@sybase.com> Sender: usenet@sybase.com Organization: Sybase, Inc. Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1993 22:41:40 GMT Recently I asked how to mount my DOS partition from within NEXTSTEP as it doesn't mount when I boot up the machine. Here are the details: I FDISK'ed the disk from within DOS and created the following partitions: %fdisk /dev/rsd0h NeXT fdisk v0.52 Type Start Size Status -------------------------------------------- NeXTSTEP 0 500 Active DOS, 16 bit FAT 500 200 - Unused Blocks Start Size ------------------------------- Free Space 700 732 I've tried every conceivable variation of the mount command and tried running DOS.util with no luck of mounting the DOS disk. Anybody have any suggestions before I give up? Thanks, ...Michael
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: antoine@arrakis.osd.ulaval.ca (Antoine Gautier) Subject: Re: gzip Message-ID: <CHs75E.L5@athena.ulaval.ca> Sender: news@athena.ulaval.ca Organization: CTI, Universite Laval References: <CHs2Jt.LyF@athena.ulaval.ca> Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1993 18:53:37 GMT In article <CHs2Jt.LyF@athena.ulaval.ca> antoine@arrakis.osd.ulaval.ca (Antoine Gautier) writes: > I have bee trying to compile gzip on 3.1, I keep getting errors... > has anyone done that who could post it on some ftp site (or nextmail it to me)? > ooops! I just found it on cs.orst.edu, in Submissions. Just wasn't listed in the INDEX. a.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: chwe@chwe1.spc.uchicago.edu (Michael Suk-Young Chwe) Subject: Re: PGP for NEXTSTEP Message-ID: <1993Dec9.194614.20354@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@uchinews.uchicago.edu (News System) Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Information Technologies References: <CHp85G.1Fv@alembicla.com> Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1993 19:46:14 GMT > NXPGP is a NeXTSTEP interface to Phillip Zimmerman's pgp > encryption package. NXPGP uses the services menu to allow you to > > NXPGP1.0.1 is available on one of the archives. > -- > David W. Fahrney =:-) > Alembic Systems International, Los Angeles > V: 310.371.6226 > F: 310.371.0886 I couldn't find this on any of the archives, or through Archie. Does anyone know where this is available? Thanks in advance. -- Michael Suk-Young Chwe chwe@uchicago.edu (NeXTMail OK) __|__ | / _| ( ) Economics Department, University of Chicago / \ | /\__| __|_|__ 1126 E 59th Street, Chicago, IL 60637 USA __|__ | / ( ) Facsimile 312-702-8490
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Neil Greene <neil@kynug.org> Subject: Re: gzip Message-ID: <1993Dec9.192901.6168@KYnug.org> Sender: neil@KYnug.org (Neil Greene) Organization: Kentucky NEXTSTEP User Group, Inc. References: <CHs2Jt.LyF@athena.ulaval.ca> Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1993 19:29:01 GMT In article <CHs2Jt.LyF@athena.ulaval.ca> antoine@arrakis.osd.ulaval.ca (Antoine Gautier) writes: > I have bee trying to compile gzip on 3.1, I keep getting errors... > has anyone done that who could post it on some ftp site (or nextmail it to me)? If you have upgraded to 3.2, it is bundeled. Look in /usr/bin/gzip. -- Neil Greene President, benchMark Developments, Inc. [NeXT VAR] President, Kentucky NeXT User Group, Inc. North American, TIFFany Distributor
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: fineman@cs.washington.edu (Daniel Fineman) Subject: How can i set up NS to not allow windows to move offscreen? Message-ID: <1993Dec9.210053.28749@beaver.cs.washington.edu> Sender: news@beaver.cs.washington.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle Date: Thu, 9 Dec 93 21:00:53 GMT In twm for X11, you can add a line to your .twm saying "DontMoveOff", so windows will not move outside of the screen; is there an equivalent for NeXTStep?
From: wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu (Wassim M. Jabi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: what word processors are left? Date: 9 Dec 1993 21:46:21 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor Distribution: usa Message-ID: <2e86bdINNs4h@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> References: <1993Dec7.041845.462@stone.com> In article <1993Dec7.041845.462@stone.com> andrew@stone.com (Andrew Stone) writes: >There's always Microsoft Word Macintosh flavor, using Executor from ARDI >on NEXTSTEP. > >andrew >-- >||<<->>||<<==>>||<<++>>||<<?>>||<<+>>||<<-->>||<<==>>||<<+>>|| >!! Andrew Stone !! (505) 345-4800 !! >!! andrew@stone.com <> Stone Design Corp !! >||<<->>||<<==>>||<<++>>||<<?>>||<<+>>||<<-->>||<<==>>||<<+>>|| As much as I support ARDI and congratulate them on their efforts I must admit that I would not consider Microsoft Word under Executor stable. I wish they would release the bug reports that I and others have been sending them. Just yesterday I chose "Spelling..." and it crashed on me (I lost an hour's worth of work) To make things worse I can not set Word's "save reminder" because there is no clock emulation. What is frustrating is that the crashes are not re-producable. So, I have no way of telling them the exact cause or chain of events that lead to a crash. -- Wassim M. Jabi (313) 936-0229 Doctoral Program in Architecture, University of Michigan 2000 Bonisteel Boulevard Ann Arbor Michigan 48105-2069 wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu NeXTMail-friendly
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: stiv@netcom.com (Stiv D. Ostenberg) Subject: Re: SoftPC in NS3.2 Black Hardware Message-ID: <stivCHsCD2.Hpy@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) References: <CHDBrv.EpI@eecs.nwu.edu> Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1993 20:46:14 GMT garyc@news.eecs.nwu.edu (Gary I. Chang) writes: >Hi, > I don't what to say about SoftPC DEMO as bundled with NS3.2 Moto. >DOS starts O.K. like a charm, but Window 3.1 is very unpredictable.... > It sometimes starts up in VGA mode, and sometime don't.... I once >switched it to CGA text mode before starts win, then it worked but not for >the next run. > When it doesn't work, it shows the MS window Big LOGO saying >"MS WINDOWS Version 3.1" as the title page, then it blanks itself with no >further response at all. A couple of times I get a message dump from the >DOS window complaining " Standard Mode: Fault in MS-DOS Extender...." followed >with SEG Registers dump. > What is the exactly setup you have to put it to work. I have tried >various combination with Memory/Display setups. I have a NSC with 24 MB RAM >and plenty of HD space. I assign the hard_disk.hdf to be 50 MB for Window >disk. I set the Extended to 4MB(or 8MB) and with 0/1 XMS memory. > Oh, one more thing, I once was able to enter Window Destop with >every apps running perfectly. So, I exit assuming that I may resize the >window next time I start it up. BINGO! I got exactly the Blank SoftPC window >again. > **SIGH** >Gary SoftPC was written to work with the 3.1 NeXTStep. NeXT changed their graphics drivers in 3.2 and broke SoftPC. You can request a patch by sending E-Mail to "insignia@netcom.com" and requesting the NeXTStep 3.2 patch for motorola. Stiv -- Stiv Ostenberg stiv@netcom.netcom.com| Sable, Saltairwise, a Claighmore ---------------------------------------+ inverted Argent, a Rowan Branch Or Tech Support, Insignia Solutions | --<------ ------>-- ---------------------------------------+ Conner MacCiaran
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: stiv@netcom.com (Stiv D. Ostenberg) Subject: Re: Windows apps that _won't_ run under SoftPC Message-ID: <stivCHsCpK.IGx@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) References: <CHE6FA.JFx@nimno.wpa.com> Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1993 20:53:43 GMT john@wpa.com (John Bartley) writes: >I was disappointed to read recently that the Windows version of FrameMaker >couldn't run under SoftPC on white hardware. All this time I was under the >impression (wrongly, it seems) that the new Intel version of SoftPC would >allow full use of Windows. The restrictions on enhanced mode (or whatever >it is called) didn't occur to me, and I had been planning on being able to >use the Windows version of Frame under SoftPC. >I also need to run Microsoft Project under SoftPC - does anybody know if >this is going to be a problem? >If major, "desirable" Windows apps are not going to be executable under >SoftPC, what's the point of it existing? Sort of like designing the >world's best car except that you deliberately leave off the 4th wheel >since it was just too difficult to design with all four. >Why does the enhanced mode limitation exist, and is it permanent for >SoftPC or just a temprary condition? The problem lies in the way PC's are designed. You cannot run two protected mode apps on the same hardware at one time. NeXTStep locks the system up. SoftPC will attempt to cheat and emulate the restricted portions of the code in a future release, but it doesn't work yet. THere is a version coming out (I cannot verify when available) that is written to pretend to be in enhanced mode when it is not, and this seems to be adequate to run framemaker. I will post details as soon as I get an official confirmation of this. Stiv -- Stiv Ostenberg stiv@netcom.netcom.com| Sable, Saltairwise, a Claighmore ---------------------------------------+ inverted Argent, a Rowan Branch Or Tech Support, Insignia Solutions | --<------ ------>-- ---------------------------------------+ Conner MacCiaran
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.hp From: dgursky@nextsrv1.andi.org (David Gursky) Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP Portable Distributed Objects for HP Released Yet? Message-ID: <dgursky.755477831@news.andi.org> Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International References: <2e4u90$it2@wave.aoml.erl.gov> <1993Dec9.150501.19015@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1993 22:57:11 GMT mcafee@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Christopher C. McAfee) writes: >I read in comp.sys.next.___?__ that it has been released, and that you >can buy it from NeXT (I think their # is 1-800-TRY-NEXT). people said >it can cost $2500 and up depending on the number of users, etc. Do not call 800 TRY NEXT to get information about PDO. 800 TRY NEXT is for finding out more information and order NEXTSTEP per se. If you want information about PDO, you will need to speak to someone at one of Next's field offices (Washington, Chicago, Boston, New York, etc.) or at Next in California. I know the number for the Washington office is (703) 506-3940. -- David M. Gursky MIME and NEXTMAIL accepted Synex, inc. e-mail: .. dgursky@nextsrv1.andi.org 5950 Symphony Woods Road voice: ............. (301) 621-5732 Columbia, MD 21044 fax: ............. (301) 621-6005
From: ernest@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu (Ernest Prabhakar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: What exactly is hit-detection in Display PostScript? Date: 10 Dec 1993 00:38:24 GMT Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena Distribution: world Message-ID: <2e8ge0$o02@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Pardon me for the silly question, but... I heard (in the X/DPS flame wars) some talk about Hit Detection under DPS. Does that means I can draw something on the screen; then, given a particular point, tell whether it was inside that drawing? And the window server - not I - keeps track of all the state? Is that in fact what it means? If so, how is it accessed? I could not figure out the appropriate entry under digital librarian to look for. Is this something explained in gory detail in the Purple Book? Thanks for your help, - Ernie P. -- Ernest N. Prabhakar Caltech High Energy Physics Member, League for Programming Freedom (league@prep.ai.mit.edu) CaJUN President NeXTMail:ernest@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu "...and ourselves, your servants for Jesus sake." - II Cor 4:5b #import <std/disclaimer.h>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc From: bhill@physics.ucla.edu (Brian Hill) Subject: Re: SLIP with NXFax In-Reply-To: mark@cyantic.com's message of Tue, 07 Dec 1993 15:31:33 GMT Message-ID: <BHILL.93Dec9174329@spike.physics.ucla.edu> Sender: usenet@physics.ucla.edu Organization: Dept. of Physics, UCLA References: <1993Dec07.153133.21154@cyantic.com> Date: 10 Dec 1993 01:43:29 GMT > Can a SLIP driver be set up on the same port as NXFax? > I will only be using SLIP for dialup on demand and will be receiving no > incoming calls. This type of mixed use of a single modem is working fine for me. NXFax doesn't interfere while SLIP is dialing out, and sets itself back up to receive calls after the SLIP connection ends. --Brian
From: smcgrew@theocean Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Calendar or planner Date: 09 Dec 93 17:41:37 Organization: University of Oregon Distribution: fj Message-ID: <smcgrew.93Dec9174137@theocean> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Howdy, Does anyone have any idea where I could find a calendar/appointment book planner program for NS for Intel. -smcgrew@theocean.uoregon.edu -Please send E-mail since I do not read news on a regular basis. (once a month or so. I have no time) Thanks in advance. -Steve
From: austin@skorpio.usask.ca (Alvin Austin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: gated for NeXT Date: 10 Dec 1993 02:34:39 GMT Organization: University of Saskatchewan, Saskatoon, CANADA Sender: austin@cs.USask.ca Distribution: world Message-ID: <2e8n7v$7e1@tribune.usask.ca> Does anyone have a copy of "gated" compiled for NeXTSTEP? Any info appreciated. --- Alvin Austin (austin@cs.usask.ca) University of Saskatchewan, Saskatoon, CANADA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: awt001@acad.drake.edu Subject: NeXT Software -- Where? Message-ID: <1993Dec9.204222.1@acad.drake.edu> Sender: news@dunix.drake.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Drake University, Des Moines, Iowa, USA Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1993 02:42:22 GMT Hello NeXT Users: I am new to the world of NeXT machines and was wondering if any of you would be so kind as to e-mail me a list of vendors (and their numbers)who sell NeXT software and who have a catalog of the products they sell. If such vendors do not exist well, let me know this as well! Thanks! Albert Tan Drake University Networking Information Systems Internet: AWT001@ACAD.DRAKE.EDU ================================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore) Subject: Re: Windows apps that _won't_ run under SoftPC Message-ID: <CHstnK.76o@genoa.com> Sender: alex@genoa.com (Alex Blakemore) Organization: Genoa Software Systems References: <stivCHsCpK.IGx@netcom.com> Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1993 02:59:44 GMT Stiv D. Ostenberg writes > The problem lies in the way PC's are designed. you can say that again :-) -- Alex Blakemore alex@cs.umd.edu NeXT mail accepted
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Is there a News reader for NextStep/Intel ? Date: 9 Dec 1993 11:44:02 +0100 Organization: Palumbian Research Labs Distribution: usa, na Message-ID: <2e6vhi$9p@marsu.tynet.sub.org> References: <javaman.103.000FAF6F@ccmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit javaman@ccmail.com (Team Caffeine) writes: >Is there a newsreader with a NS interface available for NS/Intel ? NewsBase 3.02. Available on standard ftp sites. -- Marsu: "Es gibt tatsaechlich Leute, die ohne Computer gluecklich und zufrieden leben." -- Frankie: "Ach was, die emulieren das doch nur!" ----- Markus Wenzel System administration, Consulting, Networking mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org on... NeXTSTEP / Unix / Novell / Windows NT IRC: Marsu Intel aside.
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Anyone used SoftPC on 3.2 FIP yet? Date: 9 Dec 1993 11:46:48 +0100 Organization: Palumbian Research Labs Message-ID: <2e6vmo$ak@marsu.tynet.sub.org> References: <1993Dec7.200142.13579@beaver.cs.washington.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit fineman@cs.washington.edu (Lucifer Sam) writes: >I have the academic upgrade for 3.2 - it doesn't appear to have any >sort of SoftPC on it - is there one on the cd's somewhere? Or did it >just go out in the retail packages? Of course it is located on the NeXTSTEP CD. Look into /NEXTSTEP_3.2/NextCD/Packages. -- Marsu: "Es gibt tatsaechlich Leute, die ohne Computer gluecklich und zufrieden leben." -- Frankie: "Ach was, die emulieren das doch nur!" ----- Markus Wenzel System administration, Consulting, Networking mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org on... NeXTSTEP / Unix / Novell / Windows NT IRC: Marsu Intel aside.
From: jhs3478@tamsun.tamu.edu (Jeff Stephens) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Does Mathematica work on 3.1 ? Date: 9 Dec 1993 20:49:34 -0600 Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station Distribution: usa Message-ID: <2e8o3u$8c0@tamsun.tamu.edu> If I upgrade my slab to 3.1, will I still be able to use Mathematica? I have Mathematica version 2.0. Jeff Stephens jeffs@tamu.edu
From: jhs3478@tamsun.tamu.edu (Jeff Stephens) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: compiled KPerfMon anywhere!?!?!?!? Date: 9 Dec 1993 21:20:20 -0600 Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station Distribution: usa Message-ID: <2e8ptk$apf@tamsun.tamu.edu> Is there a compiled version of KPerfMon on the archives anywhere? I don't have the development stuff. Thanks, Jeff Stephens
From: isc10033@leonis.nus.sg (Tan Chee Heng) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Oh no.... No Adaptec 1742 driver in NS 3.2! Date: 9 Dec 1993 11:21:31 GMT Organization: National University of Singapore Distribution: usa, na Message-ID: <2e71nr$but@nuscc.nus.sg> References: <javaman.105.0010154D@ccmail.com> <1993Dec7.023821.29770@cs.yale.edu> Nathan F. Janette (nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu) wrote: : In article <javaman.105.0010154D@ccmail.com> javaman@ccmail.com (Team : Caffeine) writes: : > Imagine my dismay, when after waiting months for 3.2 to arrive so that it : > would run on my Adaptec 1742 EISA controller, I find out during the : > install, that Next did not ship a 1742 driver as indicated in the 3.2 : > Hardware compatibility guide. : I hope you're mistaken, because our DEC MTE system with 1742 SCSI card : just arrived, and I want to build NEXTSTEP 3.2 on it tomorrow! The problem is that NeXTStep 3.2 supports the 1742 in 1542 compatibility mode which pretty much defeats the purpose of getting a 1742 since you lose quite a large chunk of your performance gains by using it in a crippled mode. Also the 1542 compatibility mode has known problems with detecting end-of-tape for tape drives running off the Adaptec. The above problem can be worked around when the card is in enhanced mode. HAving the card in 1542 mode would make you lose almost all the nice features of the cards of being able to configure each scsi-id individually, extended translation for >1gig drives, 32bit EISA dma (no need to waste DMA channels) etc. I really hope that NeXT will consider writing a proper driver for this card soon.
From: droege@informatik.uni-koblenz.de (Detlev Droege) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Problems with "open -a" Date: 9 Dec 1993 16:52:26 GMT Organization: University Koblenz / Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <2e7l4o$9pl@infko.uni-koblenz.de> References: <8DEC199314402044@zeus.tamu.edu> In article <8DEC199314402044@zeus.tamu.edu> ravir@zeus.tamu.edu (Ravi R. - CSC Vectorization/Parallelization) writes: > > I have been using the open utility with the -a option in attempting to open a > plain text file using WriteNow - the command I used is: > > ...(~/misc)[3-0]: open -a /LocalApps/WriteNow.app/WriteNow text-file Argument to the -a option of open is an application _name_, not a path. Just call open -a WriteNow text-file and all should work fine (as long as the application resides in the standard search path of Workspace Manager). Detlev -- Detlev Droege, Universitaet Koblenz, | droege@informatik.uni-koblenz.de Institut fuer Informatik | (NeXTmail ok) Rheinau 1, | Voice: +49 261 9119-421 D-56075 Koblenz, Germany | Fax: +49 261 9119-499
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software From: burns@sparc11.cs.uiuc.edu (Edward J. Burns) Subject: Midi and TuningSystem classes in MusikKit Message-ID: <CHtCp0.Mn5@sparc0a.cs.uiuc.edu> Sender: news@sparc0a.cs.uiuc.edu Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1993 09:50:59 GMT Please tolerate this impudent and probably unnecessary post, but I can't seem to get this work and I can't see why. I have a cheezy app that takes midi in and plays the pluck instrument. That part works fine, but I added a button to retune the NeXT's pitch tables from the most recently pressed key and pressing that button causes the sound to stop coming out. I looked in with a debugger, the frequencies coming back are all certainly valid. Everything looks fine, except for the fact that the sound ain't coming out. Any ideas? Ed Burns e-burns@uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: g402@hrz.uni-giessen.de (Karsten Wolf) Subject: New features of CraftMan 2.0? Sender: news@muster.hrz.uni-giessen.de Message-ID: <CHtG04.AqM@muster.hrz.uni-giessen.de> Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1993 11:02:28 GMT Organization: University of Giessen, Germany I just read the announcement of CraftMan 2.0. I just purchased CraftMan 1.1. Does anybody know, what new features are in CM 2.0? Do I get a free update? Karsten (karsten.wolf@erziehung.uni-giessen.de)
From: luomat@alleg.edu (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Problems with "open -a" Date: 10 Dec 1993 10:24:04 GMT Organization: Allegheny College Distribution: world Message-ID: <2e9io4$8au@ftp.alleg.edu> References: <2e7l4o$9pl@infko.uni-koblenz.de> In article <2e7l4o$9pl@infko.uni-koblenz.de> droege@informatik.uni-koblenz.de (Detlev Droege) writes: Argument to the -a option of open is an application _name_, not a path. Just call open -a WriteNow text-file and all should work fine (as long as the application resides in the standard search path of Workspace Manager). Not, as was previously mentioned, if you are using 3.1 (and maybe 3.0). If so, then you must set PublicWindowServer to on, which is a security problem to severe to accept for many people.... Anyone have a fix/workaround (besides PublicWindowServer) around? Tim -- Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College, Meadville PA USA Using: NS 3.1 Black NeXT Mail Welcomed
Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.programm,comp.sys.next.software From: keith@netcom.com (Keith Mason) Subject: Re: OpenStep Message-ID: <keithCHtI05.CE7@netcom.com> Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest) Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1993 11:45:41 GMT In article <2ctds8$jch@skates.gsfc.nasa.gov> cahalan@clouds.gsfc.nasa.gov (Robert F. Cahalan) writes: >In June 1994 NeXT will release "OpenStep" to the public domain >This will be a full and open version of their operating system >interface, with the full object heirarchy, the Interface >Builder, and the underlying messaging system. > >Also, how about a version of OpenStep for linux? >Comments, linux developers? I must let you all know that a "GNU" implementation of OpenStep is in the works, and has been for a few months now. It started from two directions: One, some people at the Stanford Linear Accelerator Center needed to be able to compile their NeXTSTEP apps on a other machines. They wrote quite a bit of their code to make a NeXT- like API on top of Motif. More beyond this, I really shouldn't say, as that wasn't my project. Two, I decided that I'd like to be able to create programs in a NeXT environment, but couldn't afford the NeXT machine OR their software for Intel machines (or the special hardware they require for the Intel machines). So I decided to start drawing up my own API. Since the announcement of OpenStep, our two teams have come together, somewhat. SLAC agreed to let what they created into GNU, and my idea was to make my software GNU all along. While their are still differences in the implementation details between our groups, I believe we can still create the "GnuStep" everyone here would like to see in a reasonably short period of time... The current implementation is still rather flakey, but IT DOES WORK, kinda. The idea, at the moment is to fix up what we already have to make it true OpenStep. The current phase is to isolate the Motif components of SLAC's library, and set the whole thing up so that Objective-C "categories" can be used to run OpenStep on a variety of windowing systems. The first windowing system we are supporting will, of course, be X. Motif support may be done at the same time, although Motif is being looked down upon the the GNU gods (can't say I disagree!). There has been a call for help placed in the GNU Objective-C mailing list, and it's now being placed here. It would be a tremendous help for those out there to be willing to spend some time to "fix" what we already have (isolating Motif), and to build the remaining necessary components. If all of you out there really mean what you say, that you'd love to see OpenStep for your machine (even in a somewhat crippled implementation), let me know! The plan is being layed out, and WE NEED HELP! The current SLAC implementation is available at ftp.slac.stanford.edu:pub/sources/objcX-0.5.tar.gz Thank you. -- Keith -- Keith Mason send all replies to: keith@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.muc.de (Maximilian Goedel) Subject: Re: BBS Software Message-ID: <CHsI5K.1wD@muaddib.isar.muc.de> Sender: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.muc.de (Maximilian Goedel) Organization: Michael Maximilian Goedel References: <33986@mindlink.bc.ca> Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1993 22:51:19 GMT In article <33986@mindlink.bc.ca> Travis_Werklund@mindlink.bc.ca (Travis Werklund) writes: > I am looking for information on running a BBS on NeXT and I was wondering if > anyone is aware of any software that would facilitate this. I have one, > possibly two, TurboColor Workstations and a 486 running NSFIP. Any > information would be appreciated. > > You can post the info here or E-mail me privately at > Travis_Werklund@mindlink.bc.ca > > Thank you > -- > ============================================================================== > == > Travis Werklund "He who has a why to live > E-Mail: Travis_Werklund@mindlink.bc.ca can bear with almost any how" > Phone: (604)985-9780 -Nietzche Yes, have a look at the Walnut-Creek CDROM Sources. There are several nice BBSs on it -- ___________Nice Greetings from Munich - Germany Michael Maximilian Goedel _____________________ e-mail: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.muc.de
From: luomat@alleg.edu (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: what word processors are left? Date: 9 Dec 1993 23:29:10 GMT Organization: Allegheny College Distribution: world Message-ID: <2e8cc6$o3m@ftp.alleg.edu> References: <2e86bdINNs4h@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> It's gotten to the point where I have just gotten to like Edit.app :-) -- Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College, Meadville PA USA Using: NS 3.1 Black NeXT Mail Welcomed
From: disc@vector.intercon.com (David Casti) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.misc Subject: Translating Sounds Date: 10 Dec 1993 13:55:50 GMT Organization: InterCon Systems Corporation, Herndon, VA, USA Message-ID: <2e9v57$nl0@news.intercon.com> Hi folks, I have several sounds on my '040 NeXT that I'd like to move over to my new Centris 660AV, but I can't seem to find any tools that will do the trick. When I tried to use Sound Converter Pro 2.0, it just crashed my mac. I can't find any conversion programs on the NeXT that even look vaguely like they'd produce sound in a Mac format. Please advise via email. I'll post a summary to these three groups. Thanks, David.
From: binger@hanover.edu (David Binger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.theory Subject: Graph Theory Software? Date: 10 Dec 1993 13:55:06 GMT Organization: Hanover College Distribution: world Message-ID: <2e9v3q$8jk@news.hanover.edu> Has someone written a NeXT program that a user can use to edit representations of graphs? If so, where can I get it? David Binger Hanover College binger@hanover.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Douglas Moore Subject: Two line orbital element set software? Message-ID: <CHtqLv.13w@news.cis.umn.edu> Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1993 14:48:12 GMT Is there any software out there that can plot satillite orbits using two-line orbital element sets? If not, does anybody know where information regarding these data sets resides? Thanks --- Douglas Moore Wanted Soon: NeXTdimension!!! 172 East Sixth Street #2106 "I hate Windows, St Paul, MN 55101 Mac's too restrictive" dmoore@maroon.tc.umn.edu <---NeXTMail ready!!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Douglas Moore Subject: Geneology software availible? Message-ID: <CHtqo5.15J@news.cis.umn.edu> Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1993 14:49:34 GMT Anybody know of NEXTSTEP geneology software out there? --- Douglas Moore Wanted Soon: NeXTdimension!!! 172 East Sixth Street #2106 "I hate Windows, St Paul, MN 55101 Mac's too restrictive" dmoore@maroon.tc.umn.edu <---NeXTMail ready!!
From: lauer@informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (Harald Lauer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Graph Theory Software? Date: 10 Dec 1993 14:45:35 GMT Organization: University of Tuebingen Distribution: world Message-ID: <2ea22f$9f@peanuts.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de> References: <2e9v3q$8jk@news.hanover.edu> In article 8jk@news.hanover.edu, binger@hanover.edu (David Binger) writes: >Has someone written a NeXT program that >a user can use to edit representations >of graphs? If so, where can I get it? I'm interested in tools for interactively creating, editing and manipulating Graphs as well. On the other hand, I want to write one myself if I find the time - not for a few months I guess :-( Bye, Harald --- Harald Lauer Those health nuts will look Wilhelm-Schickard Institut fuer Informatik stupid someday, lying in Universitaet Tuebingen hospital dying of nothing. Sand 13, 72076 Tuebingen, Germany lauer@informatik.uni-tuebingen.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software From: herbst@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (robert.s.herbst) Subject: Installing 3.2 FIP Organization: AT&T Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1993 15:07:51 GMT Message-ID: <CHtrD7.7o6@cbnewsj.cb.att.com> Followup-To: poster Keywords: Installing/Configuring 3.2 FIP HELP!! I am trying to install 3.2FIP on a lab built machine, using a Micronics JX30-06 (also used by Gateway 2000), an ATI Ultra Graphics Pro 2Mb VLB, Adaptec 1542C, PAS16, and EtherLink III.. I have the CMOS settings set the way that NeXT and Micronics say to but I just can't get it to work.. I have replaced every part including the motherboard but just can't get the darn thing to install. I tried using a NEC 74-1 (external) and a NEC 84(internal) CD-ROM the error most often received is kernel trap eip 2 followed by a large number. Anyone have any ideas what is going on here?? I have been VERY patient.. by the way, I have successfully installed on a duplicate system.. the only different part being the hard drive.. in the successful install I used a DEC DSP3105S (1 GB SCSI 3.5") in the unsuccessful install I have been using a variety of drives including several ST3600N (seagate 500MB) Maxtor 513SY. Any information that leads to a successful install would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, -- ============================================================== Bob Herbst Tel: (908)957-6507 AT&T Bell Labs E-mail: bobh@mtketc1.att.com Middletown, NJ
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: takken@raven.Stanford.EDU (Todd Takken) Subject: Re: Does Mathematica work on 3.1 ? Message-ID: <1993Dec10.173009.3803@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: Stanford University References: <2e8o3u$8c0@tamsun.tamu.edu> Distribution: usa Date: Fri, 10 Dec 93 17:30:09 GMT In article <2e8o3u$8c0@tamsun.tamu.edu> jhs3478@tamsun.tamu.edu (Jeff Stephens) writes: > If I upgrade my slab to 3.1, will I still be able to use Mathematica? > I have Mathematica version 2.0. > Jeff Stephens > jeffs@tamu.edu Yes. NS 3.1 and Mathematica 2.0 work fine together. Todd Takken takken@raven.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: yihpyng@rossinc.com (Yihpyng Kuan) Subject: NS 3.2 upgrade for Intel Message-ID: <1993Dec10.172828.20249@rossinc.com> Organization: Ross Systems, Inc. Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1993 17:28:28 GMT Hi, When I purchased NeXTSTEP 3.1 evaluation kit for Intel 486/Pentium, it stated "No Free Upgrade" for NS 3.2. That's fine. But, why no response when I tried very hard to ask Next for upgrading ? At least, you can tell me how much and when ? This is not a good business behaviour. $300 for NS 3.1 IS NOT FREE. Thanks, kuan@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: yihpyng@rossinc.com (Yihpyng Kuan) Subject: NS 3.2 upgrade for Intel Message-ID: <1993Dec10.173204.20366@rossinc.com> Organization: Ross Systems, Inc. Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1993 17:32:04 GMT Hi, When I purchased NeXTSTEP 3.1 evaluation kit for Intel 486/Pentium, it stated "No Free Upgrade" for NS 3.2. That's fine. But, why no response when I tried very hard to ask Next for upgrading ? At least, you can tell me how much and when ? This is not a good business behaviour. $300 for NS 3.1 IS NOT FREE. Thanks, kuan@netcom.com
From: droege@informatik.uni-koblenz.de (Detlev Droege) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Problems with "open -a" Date: 10 Dec 1993 15:39:57 GMT Organization: University Koblenz / Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <2ea58r$i6u@infko.uni-koblenz.de> References: <2e9io4$8au@ftp.alleg.edu> In article <2e9io4$8au@ftp.alleg.edu> luomat@alleg.edu (Timothy J. Luoma) writes: > In article <2e7l4o$9pl@infko.uni-koblenz.de> > droege@informatik.uni-koblenz.de (Detlev Droege) writes: > Argument to the -a option of open is an application _name_, not > a path. Just call 'open -a WriteNow text-file' ... > Not, as was previously mentioned, if you are using 3.1 (and maybe 3.0). > If so, then you must set PublicWindowServer to on, which is a security > problem to severe to accept for many people.... Oops - I never noticed the problem (under 3.0, 3.1 and now 3.2) as I had that PublicWindowServer switch enabled ... Not a good idea. Disabled it instantly. Sorry for my inadequate answer! Detlev PS: Makes OpenSesame pretty worthless too. Annoying - it's very handy to do system administration (configuring remote printers). Upgrading remote machines using -NXHost might urge me to re-enable PublicWindowServer temporarily ... -- Detlev Droege, Universitaet Koblenz, | droege@informatik.uni-koblenz.de Institut fuer Informatik | (NeXTmail ok) Rheinau 1, | Voice: +49 261 9119-421 D-56075 Koblenz, Germany | Fax: +49 261 9119-499
From: Postmaster@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Mail Delivery Subsystem) (by way of perkins@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Steven C. Perkins)) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: GNU OpenStep Date: 10 Dec 1993 12:35:54 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9312101835.AA20844@andromeda.rutgers.edu> >Path: newark-news.rutgers.edu!rutgers!newsserver.jvnc.net!howland.reston.ans.net!g atech!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!decwrl!netcomsv!netcom.com!keith >From: keith@netcom.com (Keith Mason)>Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.pro gramm,comp.sys.next.software >Subject: Re: OpenStep >Message-ID: <keithCHtI05.CE7@netcom.com> >Date: 10 Dec 93 11:45:41 GMT >Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest) >Lines: 55 In article <2ctds8$jch@skates.gsfc.nasa.gov> cahalan@clouds.gsfc.nasa.gov (Robert F. Cahalan) writes: >In June 1994 NeXT will release "OpenStep" to the public domain >This will be a full and open version of their operating system >interface, with the full object heirarchy, the Interface >Builder, and the underlying messaging system. > >Also, how about a version of OpenStep for linux? >Comments, linux developers? I must let you all know that a "GNU" implementation of OpenStep is in the works, and has been for a few months now. It started from two directions: One, some people at the Stanford Linear Accelerator Center needed to be able to compile their NeXTSTEP apps on a other machines. They wrote quite a bit of their code to make a NeXT- like API on top of Motif. More beyond this, I really shouldn't say, as that wasn't my project. Two, I decided that I'd like to be able to create programs in a NeXT environment, but couldn't afford the NeXT machine OR their software for Intel machines (or the special hardware they require for the Intel machines). So I decided to start drawing up my own API. Since the announcement of OpenStep, our two teams have come together, somewhat. SLAC agreed to let what they created into GNU, and my idea was to make my software GNU all along. While their are still differences in the implementation details between our groups, I believe we can still create the "GnuStep" everyone here would like to see in a reasonably short period of time... The current implementation is still rather flakey, but IT DOES WORK, kinda. The idea, at the moment is to fix up what we already have to make it true OpenStep. The current phase is to isolate the Motif components of SLAC's library, and set the whole thing up so that Objective-C "categories" can be used to run OpenStep on a variety of windowing systems. The first windowing system we are supporting will, of course, be X. Motif support may be done at the same time, although Motif is being looked down upon the the GNU gods (can't say I disagree!). There has been a call for help placed in the GNU Objective-C mailing list, and it's now being placed here. It would be a tremendous help for those out there to be willing to spend some time to "fix" what we already have (isolating Motif), and to build the remaining necessary components. If all of you out there really mean what you say, that you'd love to see OpenStep for your machine (even in a somewhat crippled implementation), let me know! The plan is being layed out, and WE NEED HELP! The current SLAC implementation is available at ftp.slac.stanford.edu:pub/sources/objcX-0.5.tar.gz Thank you. -- Keith -- Keith Mason send all replies to: keith@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: byer@mv.us.adobe.com (Scott Byer) Subject: Re: What exactly is hit-detection in Display PostScript? In-Reply-To: ernest@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu's message of 10 Dec 1993 00:38:24 GMT Message-ID: <BYER.93Dec10104016@birch.mv.us.adobe.com> Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS) Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View, CA References: <2e8ge0$o02@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1993 18:40:16 GMT In article <2e8ge0$o02@gap.cco.caltech.edu> ernest@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu (Ernest Prabhakar) writes: > I heard (in the X/DPS flame wars) some talk about Hit Detection > under DPS. Does that means I can draw something on the screen; > then, given a particular point, tell whether it was inside that > drawing? And the window server - not I - keeps track of all > the state? Not exactly. Hit detection takes two arguments, basically, a path and a point (there are several variations - see the RedBook under in*). Then it tells you "if the path were painted, would the point be inside of it". You do have to provide the state (the path), but you application could store that on the server side as a userpath if you so chose. One of the variations can use the current path. There is an entire chapter in the Purple Book, Chapter 8, dedicated to the subject of hit detection. Personally, I find the "inufill" operator taking two userpaths as the most usefull. I usually set up the second path as a small aperature, in order to give the user a small amount of slop. Note that a cached circle userpath is as fast as the square aperature. That doesn't make a difference if the aperature is small, but can if it's more than a few points. -- Scott Byer NeXTMail: byer@mv.us.adobe.com Adobe Systems Incorporated These are *my* opinions, and 1585 Charleston Road, P.O. Box 7900 do not necessarily reflect Mountain View, CA 94039-7900 the opinions of my employer. ---------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: serge@dadofsam.Princeton.EDU Subject: Re: Accessing DOS partition from NEXTSTEP Message-ID: <1993Dec10.185922.14921@Princeton.EDU> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University References: <CHqn1I.M50@sybase.com> Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1993 18:59:22 GMT In article <CHqn1I.M50@sybase.com> brill@sybase.com (Michael Brill) writes: > Recently I asked how to mount my DOS partition from within NEXTSTEP as it > doesn't mount when I boot up the machine. Here are the details: > > I FDISK'ed the disk from within DOS and created the following partitions: > > %fdisk /dev/rsd0h > NeXT fdisk v0.52 > > Type Start Size Status > -------------------------------------------- > NeXTSTEP 0 500 Active > DOS, 16 bit FAT 500 200 - > > Unused Blocks Start Size > ------------------------------- > Free Space 700 732 > > I've tried every conceivable variation of the mount command and tried running > DOS.util with no luck of mounting the DOS disk. Anybody have any suggestions > before I give up? > Here's my FDISK table ... same problem, can't mount DOS partition: Type Start Size Status -------------------------------------------- DOS, 16 bit FAT 0 102 - Linux 103 401 Active NEXTSTEP 503 451 - Linus 954 214 - Unused Blocks Start Size ------------------------------- Free Space 102 1 > Thanks, ...Michael The two Linux's are actually a Solaris 2 and a Linux. I can boot from all 4 patitions. Thanks, Serge J. Goldstein
From: luomat@alleg.edu (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Problems with "open -a" Date: 10 Dec 1993 19:00:20 GMT Organization: Allegheny College Distribution: world Message-ID: <2eah04$ll7@ftp.alleg.edu> References: <2ea58r$i6u@infko.uni-koblenz.de> In article <2ea58r$i6u@infko.uni-koblenz.de> droege@informatik.uni-koblenz.de (Detlev Droege) writes: Oops - I never noticed the problem (under 3.0, 3.1 and now 3.2) as I had that PublicWindowServer switch enabled ... Not a good idea. Disabled it instantly. Sorry for my inadequate answer! Detlev PS: Makes OpenSesame pretty worthless too. Annoying - it's very handy to do system administration (configuring remote printers). Upgrading remote machines using -NXHost might urge me to re-enable PublicWindowServer temporarily ... Now that we have had this 'feature' put on us, wouldn't it be nice if you could toggle it without having to log out and back in to enact the change? -- Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College, Meadville PA USA Using: NS 3.1 Black NeXT Mail Welcomed
From: robbie@dciem.dnd.ca (G.Robert Arrabito) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: can I redirect console output of a Cube to the serial port??? Message-ID: <16507@dciem.dciem.dnd.ca> Date: 10 Dec 93 19:37:15 GMT Sender: news@dciem.dciem.dnd.ca Organization: Defence and Civil Institute of Environmental Medicine Does anyone know whether it's possible to redirect the console output of a Cube (NeXTSTEP 3.0) to the serial port of the Cube. I need to put the Cube into single user mode and then access it via a dumb terminal connected to the serial port. Can I do this? If single user mode wasn't the issue at hand, then I can obviously do it. But single user mode and bootstrapping are now the issues at hand. Any help/suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Rob Arrabito DCIEM e-mail: robbie@dretor.dciem.dnd.ca
From: mrb9816@gold.acns.fsu.edu (Matthew R Blair) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: ns 3.2 Date: 10 Dec 1993 20:21:55 GMT Organization: Florida State University Message-ID: <2ealp3$p1s@mailer.fsu.edu> what exactly is the difference between the user and the developer versions of NeXTSTEP 3.x for the cubes....are there still any utilities for development in the user version? matt blair
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore) Subject: Re: What exactly is hit-detection in Display PostScript? Message-ID: <CHu3zv.82A@genoa.com> Sender: alex@genoa.com (Alex Blakemore) Organization: Genoa Software Systems References: <2e8ge0$o02@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1993 19:40:43 GMT Ernest Prabhakar writes > I heard (in the X/DPS flame wars) some talk about Hit Detection under > DPS. Does that means I can draw something on the screen; then, given a > particular point, tell whether it was inside that drawing? yes > the window server - not I - keeps track of all the state? yes > If so, how is it accessed? infill, ineofill, instroke, inufill, inueofill, inustroke test whether the argument is inside or on a path (the current path or a user path) > Is this something explained in gory detail in the Purple Book? in some detail in chapter 8 -- Alex Blakemore alex@cs.umd.edu NeXT mail accepted
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: chris@iastate.edu (Chris Wong) Subject: Re: Pages or PasteUp? Message-ID: <CHu110.Bzw@news.iastate.edu> Sender: news@news.iastate.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA References: <chris.754475015@vincent2.iastate.edu> <2de5u5$6am@news.mic.ucla.edu> Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1993 18:36:35 GMT In article <2de5u5$6am@news.mic.ucla.edu> ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) writes: >PasteUp on NS/Intel currently is not good enough for anything. However, >there is great hope that the new owners will make it a usable application. >PasteUp truly shows a lot of promise, and once the annoying bugs will be >solved, it'll be a great app. Haven't catch up on this group for a while. Anyway, I received PasteUp. It looks great. The only thing so far I've noticed is "It's slow.!" PasteUp 2.2 will be shipped free to me and I receive WriteUp at the end of the year too. For the time being, PasteUp is usable. I'm happen to buy PasteUp rather than SoftPC. -- Chris Wong | "Hardware is supposed to serve Software." chris@iastate.edu | Computer Engineering & Computer Science twba8@isuvax.iastate.edu | Iowa State University of Science and Technology -- Usenet News Admin. Iowa State University Computation Center Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa (USA)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: chris@iastate.edu (Chris Wong) Subject: Re: PRESS RELEASE: Wolfram Research Releases Mathematica for NEXTSTEP for Intel Message-ID: <CHu4C7.E9J@news.iastate.edu> Sender: news@news.iastate.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA References: <2djpca$ss5@digifix.digifix.com> <2dtrlj$p1@marsu.tynet.sub.org> Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1993 19:48:06 GMT In article <2dtrlj$p1@marsu.tynet.sub.org> mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel) writes: >David_Spitzler@NeXT.COM (David Spitzler) writes: > >> * Price and Availability * >> Mathematica under NEXTSTEP for Intel processors will begin shipping >> in December and is priced at $1245. Academic pricing starts at >> $995. Volume discounts and academic site licenses are available. > >Shame on you. Why not pricing the academic release to $1239.95 ??? >Show me one single student having a thousand bucks for Mathematica. $995!? This ridiculous pricing can buy 4 copies of Mac versions.!!!! >They _want_ illegal copies, do they? Please don't tempt me to break my rule... :( -- Chris Wong | "Hardware is supposed to serve Software." chris@iastate.edu | Computer Engineering & Computer Science twba8@isuvax.iastate.edu | Iowa State University of Science and Technology -- Usenet News Admin. Iowa State University Computation Center Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa (USA)
From: mcc@ciup1.ncc.up.pt (Manuel Eduardo Correia) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: WWW ( World Widw Web Client ) wanted.... Date: 10 Dec 93 12:57:52 Organization: Universidade do Porto Message-ID: <MCC.93Dec10125752@ciup1.ncc.up.pt> Hello, Does anyone know where I could get a WWW client for the Next... If there is a version similiar to the NCSA xmosaic that would be better... Cheers... =============================================================================== Manuel Eduardo C. D. Correia (Phd. Student) =============================================================================== Centro de Informatica da Universidade do Porto (CIUP), Rua do Campo Alegre, 823, 4100 Porto, PORTUGAL Tel: (351-02) 600 1672, Ext: 113, Fax: (351-02) 600 3654, Internet: mcc@ciup1.ncc.up.pt =============================================================================== -- =============================================================================== Manuel Eduardo C. D. Correia (Phd. Student) =============================================================================== Centro de Informatica da Universidade do Porto (CIUP), Rua do Campo Alegre, 823, 4100 Porto, PORTUGAL Tel: (351-02) 600 1672, Ext: 113, Fax: (351-02) 600 3654, Internet: mcc@ciup1.ncc.up.pt ===============================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dave@alembicla.com(David W. Fahrney) Subject: Re: Is there a News reader for NextStep/Intel ? Message-ID: <CHu4C1.sx@nexus.uucp> Sender: dave@nexus.uucp (David W. Fahrney) Organization: Nexus Administration References: <1993Dec8.223150.8907@seer.demon.co.uk> Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1993 19:48:00 GMT In article <1993Dec8.223150.8907@seer.demon.co.uk> paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch) writes: !> In article <1993Dec8.024809.8259@math.enmu.edu> finkenst@enmu.edu (Tim !> Finkenstadt) writes: !> > In article 000FAF6F@ccmail.com, javaman@ccmail.com (Team Caffeine) !> writes: !> > > Is there a newsreader with a NS interface available for NS/Intel ? !> > > !> > > Anyone? !> > > Thanks, !> > > Mark Anenberg !> > > Lotus/ccMail !> > !> > !> > You betcha. It's called NewsGrazer. :-) !> !> Sorry, but NG isn't available for Intel. Try NewsBase. !> So, Where does one find NewsBase? -- David W. Fahrney =:-) Alembic Systems International, Los Angeles V: 310.371.6226 F: 310.371.0886
From: cooncat@gershwin (Jessica L. Mosher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: sound file troubles Date: 11 Dec 1993 00:37:36 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Distribution: world Message-ID: <2eb4og$ho3@agate.berkeley.edu> I have been receiving a uuencoded .snd file in the mail. I can uudecode it and get the right icon, etc, but every time I try to launch it, the Sound Editor says it is unable to open the file. The person who sends them to me is making them on a 386. The sounds are eight bit sounds. I've checked permissons, etc. any ideas? I don't play much with sound stuff on the NeXT, so my apologies if this is a stupid question. Oh, my next is an 040 cube running 3.0. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jessica L. Mosher Mills College Oakland, CA USA
From: greis@cg-atla.UUCP (Peter Greis) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: PDF viewer Keywords: PS, Adobe Message-ID: <10473@cg-atla.UUCP> Date: 8 Dec 93 16:13:18 GMT Distribution: usa Organization: Agfa Compugraphic Division, Wilmington, Mass. USA I know that Adobe has PDF readers for Mac, Windoze and unix systems (probably SUN), but will there be one for the NeXT? I ask because I'm thinking of throwing together a viewer... -p ///// ////// //////// ///// /////// /// // /// /////// /// // /// /// /// // /// // /// /// /////// /// // //////// /// // /// //////// /// // ///////// /// /// // Peter Greis EQA Engineer 508 658-0200 x5988 greis@cg-atla.agfa.com ...!{decvax}!cg-atla!greis ==> Adobe Registered Developer <==
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: ak866@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Steven Besler) Subject: Re: Graph Theory Software? Message-ID: <CHuu7A.sI@freenet.carleton.ca> Sender: news@freenet.carleton.ca Organization: The National Capital FreeNet References: <2ea22f$9f@peanuts.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de> <2e9v3q$8jk@news.hanover.edu> Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1993 05:06:45 GMT In a previous article, lauer@informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (Harald Lauer) says: >In article 8jk@news.hanover.edu, binger@hanover.edu (David Binger) writes: >>Has someone written a NeXT program that >>a user can use to edit representations >>of graphs? If so, where can I get it? > >I'm interested in tools for interactively creating, editing and >manipulating Graphs as well. On the other hand, I want to write one >myself if I find the time - not for a few months I guess :-( I have done some work in this area. Nothing very fancy, but you can draw graphs with it. Unfortunately, I did it at a previous job so I dunno if I can give away the source. If enough people email me, I'll look into it. Give me a list of features, and I might even add them. Heck, if you drum up enough people, I'll take my next coop work term (May-Aug '94) and write it up as a shareware app, with a *heavily* discounted academic price. Sorry for being so "commercial", but I'm working with C++/Motif right now, and I'd *love* to be doing some NeXT Development right now! I gotta eat after all. -- Steven K. Besler | Life fluctuates between boredom, fascination, and ak866@freenet.carleton.ca | panic; punctuated by sleep, alcohol, and caffeine.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Thierry.Desbois@metasoft.fdn.org Subject: Re: Why not two (or four) docks? Message-ID: <1993Dec7.142218.7575@metasoft.fdn.org> Sender: news@metasoft.fdn.org Organization: Metasoft - Rennes, France. References: <1993Dec6.172444.7804@instep.wimsey.bc.ca> Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1993 14:22:18 GMT In article <1993Dec6.172444.7804@instep.wimsey.bc.ca> glen@instep.wimsey.bc.ca writes: > In article <2dqam0$3e8@steffi.demon.co.uk> robert@steffi.demon.co.uk > (Robert Nicholson) writes: > > don@b62178.student.CWRU.edu wrote > > >In article <2dkb4s$ft2@ftp.alleg.edu> luomat@alleg.edu (Timothy J. > Luoma) > > >writes: > > > > > >[MUNCH] > > >> The dock can simulate a 4-sided thin rectangular block (pole) that > > >> can be rotated around the vertical axis. Dragging action to left > > >> or right in the NeXT icon will rotate the block and will let the > > >> user select a face. > > >> Perhaps the NeXT icon can have a little number in the corner > > >> indicating the current face. > > > > > >THIS IS AN EXCELLENT IDEA!!!!!!!! > > > > > > > > >don... > > > > Also have the workspace do the same but have a sided cube. rotating on > > both X and Y axis. > > > > Now that would look nice. > > > > With the option of new logins on each side of the cube. Yes, and we could use a 6 faces "cube monitor" with 6 different screens, And a cubic keyboard for typewriting in several document at once, but I think It would be again too hardware-specific... --------------------------------------------------------------------- Thierry Desbois Tel: (+33) 99 31 68 00 Fax:(+33) 99 35 00 45 Metasoft ted@metasoft.fdn.org [WeLmail nextcome] ---------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: westes@netcom.com (Will Estes) Subject: Tape backup apps? Message-ID: <westesCHuyv9.LqE@netcom.com> Organization: Mail Group Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1993 06:47:33 GMT Does anyone make a GUI tape backup program for NeXT that uses a common UNIX format, like tar? -- Will Estes Internet: westes@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: markey@tigger.cs.colorado.edu (Kevin Markey) Subject: Speech recognition software on Next Message-ID: <CHvsyn.DxA@Colorado.EDU> Keywords: speech recognition Sphinx SimonSays Sender: news@Colorado.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1993 17:37:35 GMT We would appreciate information on the availability and source for public domain speech recognition software for the NeXT. We have heard of SimonSays, which executes macros in response to recognized sounds. Also, we have heard that some folks at CMU have ported Sphinx to the NeXT. Thanks Kevin Markey markey@cs.colorado.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: antoine@arrakis.osd.ulaval.ca (Antoine Gautier) Subject: Re: Graph Theory Software? Message-ID: <CHvwI7.8p@athena.ulaval.ca> Sender: news@athena.ulaval.ca Organization: CTI, Universite Laval References: <CHuu7A.sI@freenet.carleton.ca> Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1993 18:54:06 GMT In comp.sys.next.software article <CHuu7A.sI@freenet.carleton.ca> you wrote: > > If enough people email me, I'll look into it. Give me a list of features, > and I might even add them. Heck, if you drum up enough people, I'll take > my next coop work term (May-Aug '94) and write it up as a shareware app, > with a *heavily* discounted academic price. > here is what I could really use: both ways conversion between graphs and network flow formulation. give a network with capacities, costs, distances, etc... and return the drawing. or vice versa. ability to call a solver from the drawing would be excellent. interface with Diagram --- great for drawing graphs --- even better (as a service?). It would do that for min cost flows, shortest paths, max flows, directed/undirected nets, multicommodity nets, etc... most of the optimization code is out there for free, and Diagram has a very simple file language, so it should be no trouble. -- +-------------------------------------------------------+ | Antoine Gautier | | Departement OSD, FSA | | Universite Laval, Quebec, PQ | | Internet: Antoine@arrakis.osd.ulaval.ca | +-------------------------------------------------------+
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mcafee@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Christopher C. McAfee) Subject: Geomview 1.4.1: Free 3D viewer for SGI, NeXTStep Message-ID: <1993Dec11.194039.26905@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University. Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1993 19:40:39 GMT This was posted in comp.sys.sgi.announce, I didn't remember seeing it announced in the NeXT groups so here ya' go, enjoy! Chris mcafee@cs.stanford.edu %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Article 87 in comp.sys.sgi.announce (moderated): From: software@geom.umn.edu (software) Subject: Geomview 1.4.1: Free 3D viewer for SGI, NeXTStep Followup-To: comp.sys.sgi.announce Date: 10 Dec 1993 16:11:08 GMT Organization: The Geometry Center, University of Minnesota Lines: 109 Distribution: world NNTP-Posting-Host: dcdmjw.fnal.gov The staff of the Geometry Center announce the release of version 1.4.1 of Geomview, an interactive geometry viewing program. This version of Geomview runs on Silicon Graphics IRIS workstations running IRIX 4.x, NeXT workstations, and 486 PCs running NeXTStep 3.x. The distribution includes source code and compiled binaries for these architectures. Geomview is available via anonymous ftp on the Internet from host geom.umn.edu (IP address 128.101.25.35). It's in the subdirectory `pub/software/geomview'. Get the file README in that directory for details. The main distribution files are: geomview-sgi.tar.Z: Compiled binaries for SGI workstations. geomview-next.tar: Compiled binaries for NeXTStep 3.x systems. geomview-src.tar.Z: Source code. We recommend that you get one of the compiled binary distributions unless you specifically want to look at the source code. Geomview is also available via World Wide Web; our URL is "http://freeabel.geom.umn.edu/". This release contains many bug fixes and several new features and external modules. Another addition is a comprehensive user's manual. We are working on a version of Geomview for generic X windows; it should become available within the next few months. Geomview has been developed in the research environment of the Geometry Center where there is an emphasis on visualization of mathematical concepts. It can be used as a standalone viewer for static objects or as a display engine for other programs which produce dynamically changing geometry. Geomview was described in the ``Computers and Mathematics'' column of the October 1993 issue of the Notices of the American Mathematical Society. A brief overview of its capabilities is appended to the bottom of this message. The Geometry Center is an NSF-funded research center based at the University of Minnesota. Its mission is to support, develop, and promote the computation and visualization of geometric structures. The Geometry Center's official name is the "National Science and Technology Research Center for Computation and Visualization of Geometric Structures". We are very interested in getting feedback from people who use Geomview, so please let us hear from you! Send correspondence via email to software@geom.umn.edu, or via regular mail to Software Development Group Geometry Center 1300 South 2nd Street, Suite 500 Minneapolis, MN 55454 USA Thank you! The Geometry Center Software Development Group ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Overview of Geomview ******************** Geomview's main purpose is to display objects whose geometry is given, allowing interactive control over details such as point of view, speed of movement, appearance of surfaces and lines, and so on. Geomview can handle any number of objects and allows both separate and collective control over them. The simplest way to use Geomview is as a standalone viewer to see and manipulate objects. It can display objects described in a variety of file formats. It comes with a wide variety of example objects, and you can create your own objects. You can also use Geomview to handle the display of data coming from another program that is running simultaneously. As the other program changes the data, the Geomview image reflects the changes. Programs that generate objects and use Geomview to display them are called *external modules*. External modules can control almost all aspects of Geomview. The idea here is that many aspects of the display and interaction parts of geometry software are independent of the geometric content and can be collected together in a single piece of software that can be used in a wide variety of situations. The author of the external module can then concentrate on implementing the desired algorithms and leave the display aspects to Geomview. Geomview comes with a collection of sample external modules, and this manual describes how to write your own. Geomview represents the current state of an ongoing effort at the Geometry Center to provide interactive geometry software that is particularly appropriate for mathematics research and education. In particular, Geomview can display things in hyperbolic and spherical space as well as Euclidean space. Geomview allows multiple independently controllable objects and cameras. It provides interactive control for motion, appearances (including lighting, shading, and materials), picking on an object, edge or vertex level, snapshots in SGI image file or Renderman RIB format, and adding or deleting objects is provided through direct mouse manipulation, control panels, and keyboard shortcuts. Geomview supports the following simple data types: polyhedra with shared vertices (.off), quadrilaterals, rectangular meshes, vectors, and Bezier surface patches of arbitrary degree including rational patches. Object hierarchies can be constructed with lists of objects and instances of object(s) transformed by one or many 4x4 matrices. Arbitrary portions of changing hierarchies may be transmitted by creating named references. Geomview can display Mathematica graphics output.
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Why not two (or four) docks? Date: 11 Dec 1993 16:39:44 -0000 Organization: me organized? That's a joke! Message-ID: <2ect4g$1k4@steffi.demon.co.uk> References: <1993Dec6.172444.7804@instep.wimsey.bc.ca> <1993Dec7.142218.7575@metasoft.fdn.org> Thierry.Desbois@metasoft.fdn.org wrote >> > Also have the workspace do the same but have a sided cube. rotating on >> > both X and Y axis. >> > >> > Now that would look nice. >> > >> >> With the option of new logins on each side of the cube. > >Yes, and we could use a 6 faces "cube monitor" with 6 different screens, >And a cubic keyboard for typewriting in several document at once, but I >think It would be again too hardware-specific... Nonsense, this could all be simulated thru software and doesn't related to hardware what so ever except for your keyboard point. We are not suggesting simulatenous screens just screen switching where a face of the cube represents a completely different workspace session.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: takken@raven.Stanford.EDU (Todd Takken) Subject: does DayDream exist? Message-ID: <1993Dec11.211359.20076@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: Stanford University Date: Sat, 11 Dec 93 21:13:59 GMT I wanted to buy the Mac ROM, stick it in my NeXT and boot my slab as a Mac. However, nobody answers the email or phone number for DayDream given in the NextWorld advertizement. (201-928-0420, quix@applelink.apple.com) Is DayDream just vaporware, or does the product really exist? -- Todd Takken takken@raven.stanford.edu NextMail OK
From: brian@arl.wustl.edu (Brianosaurus) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: PGPServices Date: 11 Dec 1993 23:45:28 GMT Organization: Washington University, St. Louis, MO Message-ID: <2edm2o$nf1@wuecl.wustl.edu> I have posted my TickleServices add in for PGP on cs.orst.edu in the pub/next/submissions directory. It requires that you have Phillip Zimmerman's PGP Encryption software and Scott Hess's TickleServices. Both should be available by ftp somewhere. Let me know how you like it or if you have any suggestions to add to it. -- Brian Gottlieb brian@clarisse.wustl.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: gilcor@netcom7.netcom.com (Gilbert Cornilliet) Subject: Does anyone know about a better Digital Librarian? Message-ID: <GILCOR.93Dec11155228@netcom7.netcom.com> Sender: gilcor@netcom.com (Gilbert Cornilliet) Organization: NETCOM On-line services Distribution: usa Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1993 23:52:28 GMT Hello everyone! About a year ago, I noticed an announcement for a substitute to Digital Librarian. It is a commercial product written by Vertex and I could find a demo version on the archives. I would be interested to know if anybody is using that software and what they think about it. Thank you in advance for your responses. Gilbert Cornilliet.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware From: john@wpa.com (John Bartley) Subject: Getting around NSFIP serial port problems Message-ID: <CHwDH1.Bq7@nimno.wpa.com> Sender: john@nimno.wpa.com (John Bartley) Organization: Workgroup Productivity Associates Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1993 01:00:36 GMT From what I've read here on the net, the outlook for viable serial port usage under NSFIP doesn't look so hot. I'm probably missing something important here, but I was wondering if it might be possible (though expensive) to get around the limitations by using a SCSI-connected serial port controller. Or perhaps the serial-port-via-DSP-card approach. As far as I know, these work on black hardware, so I'd like to know if there are any technical reasons that they couldn't run at high speeds on white hardware. I'd like to have a reliable, high-speed serial connection to my Intel hardware and it just doesn't seem like NeXT or others are being very successful at working around the problems. Is any of this equipment already available for white hardware? If so, could somebody please point me in the right direction? Thanks. John Bartley john@wpa.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: ggerard@Alex.Engr.Trinity.Edu (Greg Gerard) Subject: NewsBase will not compile cleanly Message-ID: <1993Dec12.052436.20273@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> Sender: news@ringer.cs.utsa.edu Organization: Trinity University Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1993 05:24:36 GMT After all the flurry about NewsBase being an available reader for the GUI, I went out and dragged down the sources from cs.orst.edu. After muddling through the Japanese/English docs, I opened the project for MMEdit in PB. I hit build and the compiler errors were unreal. I have not tried to build the rest of the package yet, since it would be incomplete at best. Has anybody got this to compile cleanly? I have no idea what I am doing wrong. Thanks, greg
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: fineman@cs.washington.edu (Lucifer Sam) Subject: Tell me about Executor, please: Message-ID: <1993Dec12.061047.18130@beaver.cs.washington.edu> Sender: news@beaver.cs.washington.edu (USENET News System) Organization: The Heart of the Sun Date: Sun, 12 Dec 93 06:10:47 GMT I've put together a system running NSFIP, and i'd *really* like to be able to run the piles of mac apps that i have. Does it run like SoftPC? How much disk space does it use? Will it run [c|f]pu intensive stuff like Photoshop or Quark Xpress? How much does it go for (educational, if available...)? thanks dan
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: ror@netcom.com (RatSnatcher) Subject: Compiled PGP for NEXTSTEP/Intel? Message-ID: <rorCHx4Jn.1L0@netcom.com> Summary: Any MAB PGPs? or Intel PGPs? Keywords: PGP, Intel Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1993 10:45:22 GMT Has anyone successfully compiled PGP for NEXTSTEP/Intel? It would really suck if I had to run SoftPC just to run the DOS version (nothing against SoftPC, but it would a lot better to have the Unix version.) I have tried several times to compile it myself, but the Makefile does not work for Intel. It compiles, but it will not generate a key-pair. It explodes. There's some problem with the bit-order difference between the Motorola and Intel processors, I think (I really don't know.) All my efforts to tinker with the Makefile have been unsuccessful to date. If you have it working, would you please share your secret? Thanks! RoR! -- ror@netcom.com ~RoR-Alucard~
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NS/I Telecomm Pgms? From: damon.cooper@canrem.com (Damon Cooper) Distribution: world Message-ID: <60.7682.2746.0N18E039@canrem.com> References: <CHEy09.372@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> Date: Sun, 12 Dec 93 09:46:00 -0400 Organization: CRS Online (Toronto, Ontario) Does anybody know of any NS/I telecomm programs (PD/ShareWare) that would allow me to call a BBS, upload/download files?? (I hate having to boot MS Windows to do this)...would "tip" help me at all here?? Thanks in advance for your help. Damon F. Cooper Aetna Canada --- * UniQWK v2.1 * The Windows Mail Reader
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NS/I Newsreader ?? From: damon.cooper@canrem.com (Damon Cooper) Distribution: world Message-ID: <60.7683.2746.0N18E03A@canrem.com> Date: Sun, 12 Dec 93 09:46:00 -0400 Organization: CRS Online (Toronto, Ontario) Are there any NEXTSTEP/Intel news readers out there anywhere?? I have heard of something called the "NewsGrazer", but I unserstand that it is available only for NEXTSTEP/Motorola?? ANY help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks, Damon F. Cooper Aetna Canada --- * UniQWK v2.1 * The Solution for Multilingual Messages
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: willers@butp.unibe.ch (Moritz Willers) Subject: Re: NewsBase will not compile cleanly Message-ID: <1993Dec12.162040.13534@aragorn.unibe.ch> Sender: news@aragorn.unibe.ch Organization: University of Berne, Switzerland References: <1993Dec12.052436.20273@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1993 16:20:40 GMT In article <1993Dec12.052436.20273@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> ggerard@Alex.Engr.Trinity.Edu (Greg Gerard) writes: > After all the flurry about NewsBase being an available reader for the GUI, I > went out and dragged down the sources from cs.orst.edu. After muddling through > the Japanese/English docs, I opened the project for MMEdit in PB. I hit build > and the compiler errors were unreal. I have not tried to build the rest of the > package yet, since it would be incomplete at best. > > Has anybody got this to compile cleanly? I have no idea what I am doing wrong. > > Thanks, > greg What do you mean with 'unreal'. MMEdit and NewsBase (302) from orst compiled fine for me. After all this fuss about NG, in the German newsgroup as well, and the hints to NewsBase I downloaded it yesterday and it compiled with a lot of warnings about includes from the NS2.0 compatibility headers, I've still got 3.0 running, aren't the compat. headers in 3.1, 3.2, ... any more? However NewsBase completly messed up my .newsrc file (fortunately there was still the .newsrc~ around). Take care!! Better do a backup of yours before you start NewsBase. I certainly can't understand what people makes think that it is better than NG. I didn't like the GUI, lots of space waste on the screen. Well it does understand MIME and some other standards... I'll stick to NG, poor you on the white boxes. Moritz BTW what has become of NGPro? -- Moritz Willers Institute for Theoretical Physics, Berne Switzerland willers@butp.unibe.ch The good thing about standards is, that there are so many to choose from. A.S. Tanenbaum
From: scwg0600@ih-nxt01.cso.uiuc.edu (Steven C Weintz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Why not two (or four) docks? Date: 12 Dec 1993 20:36:51 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Distribution: world Message-ID: <2efvd3$8it@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <2ect4g$1k4@steffi.demon.co.uk> Keywords: Woof, meow Seth Ross and Daniel Kehoe have an interesting observation in their NeXTSTEP guidebook (I don't have it in front of me, but I could look it up). Given the 3D Kit and integrated RenderMan, they speculate on 3D Workspaces in future releases of NeXTSTEP once the hardware can support it. Neat thought! I, for one, am waiting wiht anticip...pation. Now, where's that girl in "Jurassic Park?": "This is a NeXTSTEP system! I know this!" :-) Best Regards, Steve Weintz scwg0600@sumter.cso.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: tjhendry@mcs.drexel.edu (Jonathan Hendry) Subject: Re: Why not two (or four) docks? Message-ID: <1993Dec12.205858.7490@netnews.noc.drexel.edu> Sender: news@netnews.noc.drexel.edu Organization: Drexel University, Dept. of Math. and Comp. Sci. References: <2ect4g$1k4@steffi.demon.co.uk> <2efvd3$8it@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1993 20:58:58 GMT Steven C Weintz (scwg0600@ih-nxt01.cso.uiuc.edu) wrote: : Seth Ross and Daniel Kehoe have an interesting observation in their : NeXTSTEP guidebook (I don't have it in front of me, but I could look it : up). Given the 3D Kit and integrated RenderMan, they speculate on 3D : Workspaces in future releases of NeXTSTEP once the hardware can support : it. Neat thought! I, for one, am waiting wiht anticip...pation. Ugh. Those three-d interfaces look neat, but I wouldn't want one on my machine. It's hard enough finding files in two-d. I'd rather not have to go looking around every nook and cranny to find stuff. If I did, I'd go look for my car keys. (Copious :-) ) -- Jonathan W. Hendry Inexpensive NeXTSTEP Consulting tjhendry@mcs.drexel.edu For Your "Not-So-Mission-Critcal" Apps
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: gordie@cyclesoft.com (Gordie Freedman) Subject: Re: Printing: "_nxfinalform" vs. "_finalform" Message-ID: <1993Dec12.215021.3463@netcom.com> Sender: gordie@netcom.com Organization: Cyclesoft Media Works References: <CHp63z.3AH@tdocad.sps.mot.com> Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1993 21:50:21 GMT In article <CHp63z.3AH@tdocad.sps.mot.com> mshaler@tdocad.sps.mot.com (Michael Shaler) writes: > The 3.1 release documents contain something of a contradiction. > >If one wants PostScript fonts and other data automatically downloaded >to the printer with each print job, one need only add a property >to the NetInfo entry for each respective printer. > >In the first part of the release notes, this property is designated >as "_nxfinalform." In the bug fixes summary (30117) later on in >the notes, it is designated as "_finalform." > > Which works? > I've used _nxfinalform on a 3.1 Intel system and that worked on Apple printers. Never heard of _finalform ... -- >>> Gordie Freedman -> gordie@cyclesoft.com NeXTMail Yes! >>> Thou shalt not inline functions more complicated than 20
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.muc.de (Maximilian Goedel) Subject: Re: does DayDream exist? Message-ID: <CHww8F.4AE@muaddib.isar.muc.de> Sender: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.muc.de (Maximilian Goedel) Organization: Michael Maximilian Goedel References: <1993Dec11.211359.20076@leland.Stanford.EDU> Distribution: all Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1993 07:45:51 GMT In article <1993Dec11.211359.20076@leland.Stanford.EDU> takken@raven.Stanford.EDU (Todd Takken) writes: > I wanted to buy the Mac ROM, stick it in my NeXT and boot my slab as a > Mac. However, nobody answers the email or phone number for DayDream given > in the NextWorld advertizement. (201-928-0420, quix@applelink.apple.com) > > Is DayDream just vaporware, or does the product really exist? > > -- Todd Takken > takken@raven.stanford.edu > NextMail OK There send me an answer trough email. If somebody is interested in that, send email to my address: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.muc.de Nice Greetings from Munich - Germany -- Michael Maximilian Goedel _____________________ e-mail: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.muc.de Address: Gerhardstrasse 33 - 81543 Muenchen Telephone: +49 89 65 29 18
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.muc.de (Maximilian Goedel) Subject: Re: Is there a News reader for NextStep/Intel ? Message-ID: <CHwwDn.4B5@muaddib.isar.muc.de> Sender: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.muc.de (Maximilian Goedel) Organization: Michael Maximilian Goedel References: <CHu4C1.sx@nexus.uucp> Distribution: all Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1993 07:48:59 GMT In article <CHu4C1.sx@nexus.uucp> dave@alembicla.com(David W. Fahrney) writes: > In article <1993Dec8.223150.8907@seer.demon.co.uk> paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch) > writes: > !> In article <1993Dec8.024809.8259@math.enmu.edu> finkenst@enmu.edu (Tim > !> Finkenstadt) writes: > !> > In article 000FAF6F@ccmail.com, javaman@ccmail.com (Team Caffeine) > !> writes: > !> > > Is there a newsreader with a NS interface available for NS/Intel ? > !> > > > !> > > Anyone? > !> > > Thanks, > !> > > Mark Anenberg > !> > > Lotus/ccMail > !> > > !> > > !> > You betcha. It's called NewsGrazer. :-) > !> > !> Sorry, but NG isn't available for Intel. Try NewsBase. > !> > So, Where does one find NewsBase? > -- > David W. Fahrney =:-) > Alembic Systems International, Los Angeles > V: 310.371.6226 > F: 310.371.0886 It can be found on ftp.uni-stuttgart.de, /pub/systems/next/Usenet Nice Greetings from Munich - Germany -- Michael Maximilian Goedel _____________________ e-mail: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.muc.de Address: Gerhardstrasse 33 - 81543 Muenchen Telephone: +49 89 65 29 18
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.muc.de (Maximilian Goedel) Subject: Re: NS 3.2 upgrade for Intel Message-ID: <CHwwMI.4Bz@muaddib.isar.muc.de> Sender: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.muc.de (Maximilian Goedel) Organization: Michael Maximilian Goedel References: <1993Dec10.173204.20366@rossinc.com> Distribution: all Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1993 07:54:18 GMT In article <1993Dec10.173204.20366@rossinc.com> yihpyng@rossinc.com (Yihpyng Kuan) writes: > Hi, > > When I purchased NeXTSTEP 3.1 evaluation kit for Intel 486/Pentium, > it stated "No Free Upgrade" for NS 3.2. > > That's fine. > > But, why no response when I tried very hard to ask Next for upgrading > ? At least, you can tell me how much and when ? > This is not a good business behaviour. > > $300 for NS 3.1 IS NOT FREE. > > Thanks, > > > kuan@netcom.com > At the SYSTEMS trade show in Munich in the late September, NeXT told me that there is a possibility to upgrade NeXTSTEP Evulation Kit to NS 3.2 Intel. But you have to buy the full Developer + User System, the price for the Evaluation Kit will be include in the pricing: NeXTSTEP 3.1 - Evual. Price = New Price Nice Greetings from Munich - Germany -- Michael Maximilian Goedel _____________________ e-mail: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.muc.de Address: Gerhardstrasse 33 - 81543 Muenchen Telephone: +49 89 65 29 18
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.muc.de (Maximilian Goedel) Subject: Re: Translating Sounds Message-ID: <CHwwqD.4Cq@muaddib.isar.muc.de> Sender: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.muc.de (Maximilian Goedel) Organization: Michael Maximilian Goedel References: <2e9v57$nl0@news.intercon.com> Distribution: all Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1993 07:56:37 GMT In article <2e9v57$nl0@news.intercon.com> disc@vector.intercon.com (David Casti) writes: > > Hi folks, > > I have several sounds on my '040 NeXT that I'd like to move over to my new > Centris 660AV, but I can't seem to find any tools that will do the trick. > When I tried to use Sound Converter Pro 2.0, it just crashed my mac. I > can't find any conversion programs on the NeXT that even look vaguely like > they'd produce sound in a Mac format. > > Please advise via email. I'll post a summary to these three groups. > > Thanks, > David. Try with sox and GISO.app, a frontend for sox. That should work, but you have to play with the settings. Ask you ftp-site next to you Nice Greetings from Munich - Germany -- Michael Maximilian Goedel _____________________ e-mail: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.muc.de Address: Gerhardstrasse 33 - 81543 Muenchen Telephone: +49 89 65 29 18
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: rawyatt@netcom.com (Robert Wyatt) Subject: MPEG players/recorders for NEXTSTEP Message-ID: <rawyattCHyB7t.7uo@netcom.com> Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest) Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1993 02:07:05 GMT Does anyone know of any MPEG players/recorders that run on black or Intel (or both)? Thanks! -Rob Wyatt rawyatt@netcom.com (text only) rob%zeus.uucp@netcom.com (NeXTmail) Please respond to: rawyatt@netcom.com unless you wish to send me a binary...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) Subject: Re: MPEG players/recorders for NEXTSTEP Message-ID: <1993Dec13.035523.12457@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: Stanford University References: <rawyattCHyB7t.7uo@netcom.com> Date: Mon, 13 Dec 93 03:55:23 GMT Robert Wyatt writes > Does anyone know of any MPEG players/recorders that run on black > or Intel (or both)? There's at least one mpeg player for black; see the FAQ in alt.binaries.pictures.misc for directions. -- - Stefano Pagiola Food Research Institute, Stanford University spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged) spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Quick Guide to NEXTSTEP information on the Internet Date: 13 Dec 1993 00:31:46 -0500 Organization: Next Announcements Message-ID: <2eguo2$e4c@digifix.digifix.com> This post is made weekly, to help 'point' users to more NEXTSTEP information Topics include: comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers comp.sys.next.* newsgroups -------------------------- Comp.Sys.Next.Advocacy This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. 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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: ed@joker.fdn.org Subject: Re: Oh no.... No Adaptec 1742 driver in NS 3.2! Message-ID: <1993Dec12.161519.1389@joker.fdn.org> Sender: ed@joker.fdn.org (Erik Dasque) Organization: French Guy Corp. - Paris, France. References: <2e71nr$but@nuscc.nus.sg> Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1993 16:15:19 GMT In article <2e71nr$but@nuscc.nus.sg> isc10033@leonis.nus.sg (Tan Chee Heng) writes: ... > HAving the card in 1542 mode would make you lose almost all the nice > features of the cards of being able to configure each scsi-id > individually, extended translation for >1gig drives, 32bit EISA dma (no > need to waste DMA channels) etc. > I really hope that NeXT will consider writing a proper driver for this > card soon. I really hope that NeXT will consider writing a proper driver soon. Ed. (Just thinking about problems people encounter with ATI Cards, Mice, Keyboard, serial ports, SCSI tapes, SCSI cards, etc...) -- Erik Dasque "The French Guy" only SMALL NeXTMAIL pleeeeease... ed@joker.fdn.org "Microsoft doesn't exist." -- Erik Dasque "The French Guy" only SMALL NeXTMAIL pleeeeease... ed@joker.fdn.org "Microsoft doesn't exist."
From: hussain@artsci.wustl.edu (G. H. Chinoy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: DOOM is way cool... Date: 13 Dec 1993 00:45:31 GMT Organization: Washington University, St. Louis, MO Distribution: world Message-ID: <2egdvb$d8f@wuecl.wustl.edu> References: <2e622eINNt22@clem.handheld.com> Does DOOM work on black hardware? If so where can I procure a copy? -- ________________________________ G. Hussain Chinoy hussain@artsci.wustl.edu
From: hussain@artsci.wustl.edu (G. H. Chinoy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: DOOM is way cool... Date: 13 Dec 1993 00:45:41 GMT Organization: Washington University, St. Louis, MO Distribution: world Message-ID: <2egdvl$d8g@wuecl.wustl.edu> References: <2e622eINNt22@clem.handheld.com> Does DOOM work on black hardware? If so where can I procure a copy? -- ________________________________ G. Hussain Chinoy hussain@artsci.wustl.edu
From: hussain@artsci.wustl.edu (G. H. Chinoy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: DOOM is way cool... Date: 13 Dec 1993 00:45:55 GMT Organization: Washington University, St. Louis, MO Distribution: world Message-ID: <2ege03$d8h@wuecl.wustl.edu> References: <2e622eINNt22@clem.handheld.com> Does DOOM work on black hardware? If so where can I procure a copy? -- ________________________________ G. Hussain Chinoy hussain@artsci.wustl.edu
From: seubert@cip.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Klemens Seubert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Screensaver Date: 13 Dec 1993 11:46:26 GMT Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany Message-ID: <2ehkmi$hvs@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> Hi, is there a screensaver application like BackSpace which works too if nobody is logged in. Thanks, Klemens -- Klemens Seubert Universitaet Wuerzburg Institut fuer Angewandte Mathematik email: seubert@cip.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de NeXTmail welcome
From: Mike Nakamura Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Is there IRC client app for black h/w? Date: 13 Dec 1993 05:02:55 GMT Organization: The University of British Columbia Distribution: World Message-ID: <2egt1v$pdd@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> Keywords: IRC Any info would be appreciated. Thanks. -- Yasunobu (Mike) Nakamura E-mail: ynakamur@sfu.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: hbu@wag.ch (Hans Burkard) Subject: Re: Speech recognition software on Next Message-ID: <CHyu8t.4GM@wag.ch> Keywords: speech,recognition Sender: usenet@wag.ch Organization: workstation ag, Rohrstr. 36/38, CH-8152 Glattbrugg, Switzerland References: <CHvsyn.DxA@Colorado.EDU> Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1993 08:58:05 GMT In article <CHvsyn.DxA@Colorado.EDU> markey@tigger.cs.colorado.edu (Kevin Markey) writes: > > We would appreciate information on the availability and source for public > domain speech recognition software for the NeXT. We have heard of SimonSays, > which executes macros in response to recognized sounds. Also, we have > heard that some folks at CMU have ported Sphinx to the NeXT. > In comp.sys.next.software article <CHvsyn.DxA@Colorado.EDU> you wrote: > > We would appreciate information on the availability and source for public > domain speech recognition software for the NeXT. We have heard of SimonSays, > which executes macros in response to recognized sounds. Also, we have > heard that some folks at CMU have ported Sphinx to the NeXT. > The Sphinx based speech recognition software is called "SpeechKit". Please contact "Robert_Brennan@cmu.edu" for further information. By the way, we have tried SpeechKit... a very impressive tool! -Hans- +---------------------+---------------------------+ | workstation ag | voice: +41 1 828 95 55 | | Rohrstr. 36/38 | fax: +41 1 828 95 70 | | CH-8152 Glattbrugg | e-mail: info@wag.ch | | Switzerland | | +---------------------+---------------------------+
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: alastair@dinsdale.phy.queensu.ca (Alastair McLean) Subject: IEEE and NS/Intel ? Message-ID: <CHzAqJ.Frw@knot.ccs.queensu.ca> Sender: news@knot.ccs.queensu.ca (Netnews control) Organization: Queen's University, Kingston Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1993 14:54:19 GMT I would like to use a 486 machine running NEXTSTEP to control an electron spectrometer. Are there any drivers/boards that would allow me to control IEEE instruments from NEXTSTEP ? Alastair McLean, Physics, Queen's University, Ontario. (alastair@hecate.phy.queensu.ca)
From: hironobu@sra.CO.JP (Hironobu SUZUKI) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: PGPServices Message-ID: <HIRONOBU.93Dec13234650@sran265.sra.CO.JP> Date: 13 Dec 93 14:46:50 GMT References: <2edm2o$nf1@wuecl.wustl.edu> Sender: news@sran265.sra.co.jp Organization: Software Research Associates, Inc., Japan In-reply-to: brian@arl.wustl.edu's message of 11 Dec 93 23:45:28 GMT In article <2edm2o$nf1@wuecl.wustl.edu> brian@arl.wustl.edu (Brianosaurus) writes: >>PGP Encryption software and Scott Hess's TickleServices. Both should be >>available by ftp somewhere. >> >>Let me know how you like it or if you have any suggestions to add to it. >> >>-- >>Brian Gottlieb >>brian@clarisse.wustl.edu a TickleServices archive file is same directory at cs.orst.edu. pgp achives ftp list. Host ftp.nig.ac.jp Location: /pub/security/PGP FILE -rw-r--r-- 680985 Jul 28 00:05 pgp23A.tar.Z Host ghost.dsi.unimi.it Location: /pub/security FILE -rw-r--r-- 680985 Jul 22 15:25 pgp23A.tar.Z Host isy.liu.se Location: /pub/misc/pgp/2.3A FILE -rw-r--r-- 680985 Sep 19 10:57 pgp23A.tar.Z This list is made of outside U.S. sites. Because I'm in Tokyo/Japan, I can't get pgp from U.S. Some cryptograph method and software is protected by U.S. export law. Compilation of pgp is very easy at black NeXT under NeXTSTEP 3.0. From Japan --hironobu ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hironobu Suzuki Practical Software Engineering Laboratory Software Research Associates, Inc, Japan. 3-12, Yotsuya, Shinjuku-ku, Tokyo, 160, JAPAN. E-Mail: hironobu@sra.co.jp NeXT-Mail: hironobu@ext247.sra.co.jp
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: ror@netcom.com (RatSnatcher) Subject: Doom NeXT vs. Doom DOS Message-ID: <rorCHzApM.FB7@netcom.com> Summary: How dos DOOM for NEXTSTEP compare to DOOM for DOS? Keywords: DOOM, DOS Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1993 14:53:46 GMT How does DOOM for NeXT compare to DOOM for DOS? I don't have a color NEXTSTEP system, so in the meantime, I download DOOM for DOS... And it RIPS!! Wow! I thought Wolfenstein 3D was the ultimate shoot-em up maze game. DOOM is a major improvement--curved surfaces, flikering lights, crazy monsters, scenery that looks real, nuclear waste...beauty gun sounds! Has anyone had a chance to compare the two versions of the games? Does the NeXT version work as well/fast/nicely as the DOS version? One *very* strange thing about the MS-DOS version is that when it loads up, it says that it is booting the "DOOM Operation System (DOS)" and it looks almost _exactly_ like my NEXTSTEP/Intel machine booting up!!! It has a white bar at the top and unix-style messages about deamons and everything. What is that?? Is it a JOKE or something??? It looks CRAZY! I must know! -- ror@netcom.com ~RoR-Alucard~
From: bora@ils.nwu.edu (Don Bora) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Doom NeXT vs. Doom DOS Date: 13 Dec 1993 18:56:32 GMT Organization: The Institute for the Learning Sciences Distribution: world Message-ID: <2eidt0$bgq@anaxagoras.ils.nwu.edu> References: <rorCHzApM.FB7@netcom.com> Keywords: DOOM, DOS It seems I am missing something (having been on vacation...) Where can I get a copy of Doom and will it run on my machine: '40 NeXT Cube (mono) thanks! -*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* Donald F. Bora | | | The Institute for the Learning Sciences | | O | Northwestern University | (--|--) Evanston, Ill | | e-mail: dbora@ils.nwu.edu | / \ work: (708) 467-1972 | --------Be excellent to each other--------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Modem software under NS3.1 Message-ID: <1993Dec13.184114.138436@embl-heidelberg.de> From: grindrod@EMBL-Heidelberg.DE (David Grindrod) Date: 13 Dec 93 18:41:14 +0100 Keywords: modem software Can anyone suggest good NeXT GUI interface software for modem. Preferable public domain, but if not shareware. David Grindrod NMR System Manager EMBL Heidelberg Germany E-mail: grindrod@EMBL-Heidelberg.DE
From: brian@arl.wustl.edu (Brianosaurus) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: PGPServices Date: 13 Dec 1993 19:39:06 GMT Organization: Washington University, St. Louis, MO Message-ID: <2eigcq$4rg@wuecl.wustl.edu> Before posting the PGPServices, I was thinking I need to change some path stuff, but when I looked and found none to change, I figured it just worked right. But silly me, I forgot that I had made changes to my path and set some environment variables in my "runWorkspace" script which loginwindow executes for me. But thanks to Karsten Thygesen and Pete Clark who have brought this to my attention. Anyone who is having problems using my PGPServices should add the following lines to the !Initialization! part of the services (accessed through the TickleServices front-end) (these are Pete Clark's examples): # set the user's PGPPATH shell environment variable set env(PGPPATH) "/Users/pclark/pgp" # make sure the PGP binary is in the path. This assumes pgp lives in ~/Unx/bin append env(PATH) ":/Users/pclark/Unix/bin/" You should change the paths to reflect your system (duh!) Hopefully that should make everything work. -- Brian Gottlieb brian@clarisse.wustl.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mc2@TorreyPinesCA.ncr.com (Mike Cox) Subject: Help: BugByte crashing after 3.2 install Message-ID: <1993Dec13.193215.8745@TorreyPinesCA.ncr.com> Organization: NCR (Torrey Pines Development Center) Disclaimer: This posting does not necessarily reflect the opinions of NCR. Date: Mon, 13 Dec 93 19:32:15 GMT After upgrading to 3.2 BugByte won't run anymore. I get a msg saying "... exec-file not supported symbol-file not supported ..." or some such then the app crashes (I'm sure that's not quoted exactly 'cause it flashes in the lower BugByte text panel right before the app crashes). I tried re-installing BugByte but the same thing still happens. Any ideas what I messed up during the install??? --mike ps: this is on a black/color workstation with the BugByte that ran on 3.1 (2.2.1 ???) -- --Mike \ Bones heal, michael.cox@torreypinesca.ncr.com / and chicks dig scars...
From: rmorris@post.its.mcw.edu (Robert Morris) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cable for laserjet 4m Date: 13 Dec 1993 14:23:37 -0600 Organization: Medical College of Wisconsin; Milwaukee Wisconsin Message-ID: <2eij09$b32@post.its.mcw.edu> I am trying to use a laserjet with black hardware and a driver I got from the archive site. I usually get postscript errors. I recently read that this is a function of the pin configuration and a special cable is required. Is this true? Can I buy the correct cable? If so, where? If not, how do I make one? Thanks.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: wbeeck@dart.de (Wilfried Beeck) Subject: Re: Screensaver Message-ID: <1993Dec13.195847.442@dart.de> Sender: wbeeck@dart.de Organization: d'ART Computersysteme GmbH References: <2ehkmi$hvs@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> Date: Mon, 13 Dec 93 19:58:47 GMT In article <2ehkmi$hvs@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> seubert@cip.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Klemens Seubert) writes: > Hi, > > is there a screensaver application like BackSpace which works too > if nobody is logged in. > Login as root, start Terminal and type this: dwrite loginwindow TimeToDim 60 After a reboot this will give you the standard NeXT screensaver with 60 seconds delay. Important: If you are using a monitor with powermanagement, like EIZO monitors with TCO 92 approval, you should not use a software screensaver with moving images. Otherwise the monitor will never shut down, because it detects the output changes. Wilfried Beeck d'ART Computersysteme GmbH
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: daniele@netcom.com (Daniele Colajacomo) Subject: next unix os for pc? Message-ID: <danieleCHzJJ8.8uB@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1993 18:04:19 GMT Hi, I'm looking for NEXT's unix operating system for PCs. I have a 66mhz 486 and heard about the NEXT unix os which should come with renderman. I have some wustions about it: - how much it is - does it have memory limitations (I just got my 486 and am still unsure. the dealer told me it can be expanded to 128MB of RAM, but that DOS only allows up to 20MB. Others told me this isn';t true) - does it come with complete Renderman - what kind of limitations does it have. Any information, and possibly a direct e-mail address for NEXT, will be greatly appreciated. daniele -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Daniele Colajacomo, 925 N. Vista street, Los Angeles, CA 90046 e-mail: daniele@netcom.com or dani@disney.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: wissner@beech.csis.gvsu.edu (Jim Wissner) Subject: Flat-file database adapter? Message-ID: <1993Dec13.205733.29454@beech.csis.gvsu.edu> Sender: news@beech.csis.gvsu.edu Organization: Grand Valley State University, Allendale MI Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1993 20:57:33 GMT Hello: I seem to remember something about there existing a flat-file database adapter available for the NeXT. Does anyone know anything about this, ie from where, how much, how does it work, and is there an intel version? Thanks, Jim.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dav@well.sf.ca.us (Paul Davilon) Subject: AcidWarp for Backspace? Message-ID: <CHzt99.Cpy@well.sf.ca.us> Sender: news@well.sf.ca.us Organization: The Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link, Sausalito, CA Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1993 21:34:20 GMT Are there any backspace modules available that are similar to the truly eye catching acidwarp under dos? I have never seen anything this interesting under any other platform and looking at backspace it should be not so hard to port it or make something similar for he NeXT! thanks
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Doom NeXT vs. Doom DOS Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1993 15:59:03 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Chemistry, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <wh3BSLq00iV347Cf5o@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <rorCHzApM.FB7@netcom.com> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 13-Dec-93 Doom NeXT vs. Doom DOS by RatSnatcher@netcom.com > And it RIPS!! > > Wow! I thought Wolfenstein 3D was the ultimate shoot-em up maze game. DOOM > is a major improvement--curved surfaces, flikering lights, crazy monsters, > scenery that looks real, nuclear waste...beauty gun sounds! On the other hand, DOOM is seriously braindead with regard to proper network usage. DOOM uses broadcast packets rather than packets directed to specific machines. For large networks with the potential of many people playing, DOOM creates intolerably high network load (since the broadcast packets cannot be filtered out by your subnet routers as machine-specific packets would be). Furthermore, broadcast packets force *every* machine on the network to pay attention to them, which slows down *every* machine on your network. When the PC version of DOOM became available locally at CMU, so many people started playing it that it swamped our net (which has a 600Mbit/sec backbone, BTW). The game has been banned here and also probably will be at the other large network sites (MIT, UPenn, UMichigan, etc) unless and until ID fixes it. While DOOM is a really cool game, be careful where you play it (at least in network/multiplayer mode)! -Chuck Charles William Swiger -- CMU...*splat*! | 1. You can't fly. --------------------------------------------+ 2. Cars are always real, even AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | when they're not. Failing that: cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu | 3. Police are not your friends. NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | 4. Fire burns.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: kelley@kiwi.ATMOS.ColoState.Edu (Kelley Wittmeyer) Subject: RUsers.app? Sender: news@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU (News Account) Message-ID: <Dec13.235512.75669@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1993 23:55:12 GMT Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523 Keywords: rusers hi does anyone know what happened to RUsers.app by eric p scott? eric, are you out there? i dont think it was going to be freeware and i dont remember a final version coming out. kelley wittmeyer dept of atmospheric science colorado state university
From: mcarswll@oyster.smcm.edu (Matt Carswell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: AcidWarp for Backspace? (me too) Date: 14 Dec 1993 00:30:58 GMT Organization: University of Maryland, College Park Message-ID: <2ej1g3$buq@umd5.umd.edu> References: <CHzt99.Cpy@well.sf.ca.us> In article <CHzt99.Cpy@well.sf.ca.us> dav@well.sf.ca.us (Paul Davilon) writes: > > > Are there any backspace modules available that are similar to the truly eye > catching acidwarp under dos? I have never seen anything this interesting under > any other platform and looking at backspace it should be not so hard to port > it or make something similar for he NeXT! > > thanks definitely!! great idea. also something similar to the satori module for afterdark. if i could code C (and i'm working on it) i would try to port these to NeXT. i imagine on a color station or intel box they would be great.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson) Subject: Re: Flat-file database adapter? Message-ID: <1993Dec14.002214.17968@news.media.mit.edu> Sender: news@news.media.mit.edu (USENET News System) Organization: MIT Media Laboratory References: <1993Dec13.205733.29454@beech.csis.gvsu.edu> Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1993 00:22:14 GMT In article <1993Dec13.205733.29454@beech.csis.gvsu.edu> wissner@beech.csis.gvsu.edu (Jim Wissner) writes: >> >>Hello: >> >>I seem to remember something about there existing a flat-file database >>adapter available for the NeXT. Does anyone know anything about this, >>ie from where, how much, how does it work, and is there an intel version? >> IXAdaptor from VNP Software. I think it's $249, no discounts. Saw a demo of their products last week at a BCS meeting - very impressive. Smart people. info (see their add p 12 of NW) 802-496-7799, fax 802-496-7790, email is Product_Info@vnp.com -- --> Michael B. Johnson -- wave@media.mit.edu --> MIT Media Lab -- Computer Graphics & Animation Group --> 20 Ames St. E15-023G -- (617) 547-0563 (day office) --> Cambridge, MA 02139 -- (617) 253-0663 (night office)
From: erictremblay@genie.geis.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Getting around NSFIP serial Date: 13 Dec 1993 19:05:20 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9312140104.AA26690@relay2.geis.com> john@wpa.com (John Bartley) Getting around NSFIP serial port problems >From what I've read here on the net, the outlook for viable serial port >usage under NSFIP doesn't look so hot. Well, I don't think so. I have 3.2 running UUCP with a friend at 9600 bauds and it works great. I'll be looking at going a little faster this week when I'll try and use my Supra 14,400 at it's full capacity buy changing the UUCP configuration. One last note. UUCP did not work with 3.1 (serial port bug) but it works great with 3.2 and that's an outgoing and incoming UUCP link. Eric "E.T."
From: disc@vector.intercon.com (David Casti) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Translating Sounds Date: 13 Dec 1993 16:02:48 GMT Organization: InterCon Systems Corporation, Herndon, VA, USA Distribution: all Message-ID: <2ei3n8$p2p@news.intercon.com> References: <2e9v57$nl0@news.intercon.com> <CHwwqD.4Cq@muaddib.isar.muc.de> Maximilian Goedel (mgoedel@muaddib.isar.muc.de) wrote: : In article <2e9v57$nl0@news.intercon.com> disc@vector.intercon.com (David : Casti) writes: : : > [help converting sounds] : : Try with sox and GISO.app, a frontend for sox. That should work, but : you have to play with the settings. Ask you ftp-site next to you I've done several archie searches, and the latest I can find is GISO for NeXTStep 2.1. The archie at sura.net has entries for GISO.for.3.0, but the files aren't on the FTP sites anymore. If anyone has sources/binaries that work under 3.1, someone please let me know. I'll put it up on my anon ftp site here. Thanks, David.
From: kerry@totara.cs.waikato.ac.nz (Kerry Guise) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Graphical file merge Date: 14 Dec 1993 03:58:10 GMT Organization: The University of Waikato Message-ID: <2ejdki$vad@thebes.cc.waikato.ac.nz> Is there a file merge app (ala Unix diff) available for NS 3.0 ? I understand that such an app is bundled with 3.1 or 3.2. Thanks in advance, Kerry Guise
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: balu@jensen.cc.brandeis.edu (t balasubramanian) Subject: Help : connecting to mathematica Message-ID: <1993Dec14.031330.17608@news.cs.brandeis.edu> Sender: news@news.cs.brandeis.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Brandeis University Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1993 03:13:30 GMT Hi, I have some text and data in scroll view, I want to send this data to mathematica and ask it to execute this. I can do this easily by including the service menu in the project. I was wondering if there is any other way of doing this - say I just click a button called plot and this exports the text and data to mathematica and the rest is done by mathematica. If anyone has some sugesstion, I would greatly appreciate a reply by email Thanks balu@jensen.cc.brandeis.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: wbeeck@dart.de (Wilfried Beeck) Subject: Re: Flat-file database adapter? Message-ID: <1993Dec13.234515.664@dart.de> Sender: wbeeck@dart.de Organization: d'ART Computersysteme GmbH References: <1993Dec13.205733.29454@beech.csis.gvsu.edu> Date: Mon, 13 Dec 93 23:45:15 GMT In article <1993Dec13.205733.29454@beech.csis.gvsu.edu> wissner@beech.csis.gvsu.edu (Jim Wissner) writes: > > Hello: > > I seem to remember something about there existing a flat-file database > adapter available for the NeXT. Does anyone know anything about this, > ie from where, how much, how does it work, and is there an intel version? > We are selling a flat-file database, called VARIODATA. It has been very successfull here in Europe and we are now introducing it in the U.S. We are currently not planning to add a DBkit-adapter, but we supply much of the design-functionality that DBkit and Interface Builder give you for simple database applications. VARIODATA also allows you to switch from the build in flat-file database engine to the most common SQL-databases (Sybase, Oracle, Informix, Interbase), while maintaining the front-end interface. This feature allows you to start with a simple, affordable, easy-to-use programming tool and then switch to a more powerful database engine, when your data or complexity grows. The current version of VARIODATA is 3.0. An older version 2.6.2 is included on the NEXTSTEP 3.2 Third Party CD. Wilfried Beeck d'ART Computersysteme GmbH Virchowstr. 17-19 22767 Hamburg Germany (49) 40 380 23 - 0 (49) 40 380 23 - 290 fax wbeeck@dart.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: brianw@sounds.wa.com (Brian Willoughby) Subject: Re: MPEG players/recorders for NEXTSTEP Message-ID: <CI03K6.B7o@sounds.wa.com> Organization: Sound Consulting, Bellevue, WA, USA References: <rawyattCHyB7t.7uo@netcom.com> <1993Dec13.035523.12457@leland.Stanford.EDU> Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1993 01:16:53 GMT >Robert Wyatt writes >> Does anyone know of any MPEG players/recorders that run on black >> or Intel (or both)? > >There's at least one mpeg player for black; see the FAQ in >alt.binaries.pictures.misc for directions. > >Stefano Pagiola MPEG Play is currently at version 2.6 and can be found on cs.orst.edu in /pub/next/binaries/screen as MPEGPlay2.6.FAT.tar.Z -- Brian Willoughby Software Design Engineer, BSEE from NCSU NeXTmail welcome Sound Consulting: Software Design and Development BrianW@SoundS.WA.com Bellevue, WA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) Subject: Re: RUsers.app? Message-ID: <1993Dec14.082834.10290@csus.edu> Sender: news@csus.edu Organization: San Francisco State University References: <Dec13.235512.75669@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1993 08:28:34 GMT In article <Dec13.235512.75669@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> kelley@kiwi.atmos.colostate.edu (Kelley Wittmeyer) writes: >does anyone know what happened to RUsers.app by eric p scott? sutro.sfsu.edu:~ftp/pub/RUsers-p1.tar.Z (m68k only!) >eric, are you out there? I *think* so. > i dont think it was going to be >freeware and i dont remember a final version coming out. The source tree has been frozen since September 1992. Most of the feedback I got said it wasn't going to be viable without some sort of graphical editor, and I never found time to produce one. Are you looking for an Intel executable? -=EPS=-
From: paedu@fest.ac.chem.ethz.ch (Patrick Hofmann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Filters Next ---> Mac Date: 14 Dec 1993 08:42:34 GMT Organization: Swiss Federal Institut of Technology (ETH), Solid State Chemistry Distribution: world Message-ID: <PAEDU.93Dec14094235@flight.ethz.ch> Hello Sorry if this is a faq, but... Recently I bought a Powerbook;-( Well, there's no portable NeXT at this price.) I am using Writenow 2.1 on NS, and MacWriteII on the MAC. There's no problem when I read files from the mac (I save them using the filter write2.0-2.2), but I have some problems with the umlauts and other non standard characters when I try to read Nextfiles into the mac. Does anybody know, if there is a conversion utility, which takes care of the european character set and special characters? Please reply by email, because I don't read this group very often. thanks paedu -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Patrick Hofmann | paedu@fest.ac.chem.ethz.ch Inorganic Solid State Chemistry | ETH Zurich, Switzerland | Phone (41) (1) 632 49 37 | Phone (41) (1) 632 68 45 | Fax (41) (1) 262 07 18 -----------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: uh112@freenet.Victoria.BC.CA (Mike Silversides) Subject: Object-Oriented Analysis and Design Tools for NeXTSTEP ?? Message-ID: <CI0nI9.560@suncad.camosun.bc.ca> Sender: news@suncad.camosun.bc.ca (USENET News System) Organization: Camosun College, Victoria, B.C. Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1993 08:27:44 GMT Does anyone have or know about any object-oriented analysis or design tools for NeXTSTEP? Coad-Yourdon or Grady Booch techniques would be great, but I would like to hear about any kind of anylysis or design tools. Thanks. -- Mike Silversides uh112@freenet.victoria.bc.ca #305-75 Gorge Road West (604)385-0227 Victoria, BC, Canada, V9A 7A9
From: hironobu@sra.CO.JP (Hironobu SUZUKI) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: PGPServices Message-ID: <HIRONOBU.93Dec14181924@sran265.sra.CO.JP> Date: 14 Dec 93 09:19:22 GMT References: <2eigcq$4rg@wuecl.wustl.edu> Sender: news@sran265.sra.co.jp Organization: Software Research Associates, Inc., Japan In-reply-to: brian@arl.wustl.edu's message of 13 Dec 93 19:39:06 GMT In article <2eigcq$4rg@wuecl.wustl.edu> brian@arl.wustl.edu (Brianosaurus) writes: >>attention. Anyone who is having problems using my PGPServices should add the >>following lines to the !Initialization! part of the services (accessed through >>the TickleServices front-end) (these are Pete Clark's examples): >> This is a simple solution. First of all, I moved real ``pgp'' executable file to ``pgp_exec'' and I made a c-shell script that was named 'pgp'. -----(c-shell script that was named pgp)--- #!/bin/csh exec pgp_exec $* ----- Even if I type ``pgp'' on terminal or call ``pgp'' in foo.app under Workspace environment, pgp will be worked under same environment -- I mean UNIX c-shell evnironment. From Japan --hironobu ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hironobu Suzuki Practical Software Engineering Laboratory Software Research Associates, Inc, Japan. 3-12, Yotsuya, Shinjuku-ku, Tokyo, 160, JAPAN. E-Mail: hironobu@sra.co.jp NeXT-Mail: hironobu@ext247.sra.co.jp
From: russell@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Russell Schulz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: From Frame to Pages Message-ID: <931213.222530.9n2.rusnews.w164w@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1993 22:25:30 MST References: <2dhn5e$5ou@hp4at.eunet.co.at> <jeffo.754800049@uiuc.edu> Organization: Private System, Edmonton, AB, Canada jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) writes: > From what I've been told, contrary to their current ad in NeXTWORLD > magazine, they (still) aren't shipping their v1.0 product. this is still the case, according to the company itself (over the phone this week) -- Russell Schulz russell@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca ersys!rschulz Shad 86c
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: ror@netcom.com (RatSnatcher) Subject: Re: Doom NeXT vs. Doom DOS Message-ID: <rorCI0yzA.454@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) References: <wh3BSLq00iV347Cf5o@andrew.cmu.edu> Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1993 12:35:34 GMT Charles William Swiger (infidel+@CMU.EDU) wrote: : Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 13-Dec-93 Doom NeXT vs. : Doom DOS by RatSnatcher@netcom.com : > And it RIPS!! : > : > Wow! I thought Wolfenstein 3D was the ultimate shoot-em up maze game. DOOM : > is a major improvement--curved surfaces, flikering lights, crazy monsters, : > scenery that looks real, nuclear waste...beauty gun sounds! : On the other hand, DOOM is seriously braindead with regard to proper : network usage. DOOM uses broadcast packets rather than packets directed Yeah, but uh...most video games don't have ANY network facilities at all, especially not really *excellent* ones like DOOM. : When the PC version of DOOM became available locally at CMU, so many : people started playing it that it swamped our net (which has a : 600Mbit/sec backbone, BTW). The game has been banned here and also : probably will be at the other large network sites (MIT, UPenn, : UMichigan, etc) unless and until ID fixes it. IMHO, that makes is even cooler! It makes it seem even CRAZIER. But anwyay, how does the NeXT version compare to the MS-DOS version? Zach -- ror@netcom.com ~RoR-Alucard~
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Michael_Pizolato@afs.com (Michael Pizolato) Subject: Re: what word processors are left? Message-ID: <1993Dec8.124923.316@afs.com> Sender: Michael_Pizolato@afs.com References: <rawyattCHonDC.8Lt@netcom.com> Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1993 12:49:23 GMT Robert Wyatt writes >AFS is working on a product called WriteUp (I believe). It will >have a WordPerfect -> WriteUp translator. Maybe AFS will write >some additional translators so that WriteUp can read MS-Word and >other files... That's correct. WriteUp V1.0 will ship on 12/31 (of _this_ year ;-), but will not have the WordPerfect capability. We will release a WordPerfect DIB (Document Interchange Bundle) in the first quarter, which will install into the existing WriteUp V1.0 and will allow read/write of WP-format documents. A DIB for MS-Word will follow soon after, and others will come later as demand dictates. Thanx, Michael -- Michael_Pizolato@afs.com "Schopenhauer's not as optimistic as Nietzsche, NeXTMail accepted but he makes up for it by being less cheerful than Kierkegaard." - Kim Pizolato
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Doom NeXT vs. Doom DOS Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1993 12:09:27 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Chemistry, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <gh3TB7C00iV5Q45ght@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <rorCI0yzA.454@netcom.com> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 14-Dec-93 Re: Doom NeXT vs. Doom DOS by RatSnatcher@netcom.com > Yeah, but uh...most video games don't have ANY network facilities at all, > especially not really *excellent* ones like DOOM. My point was that it is unfortunate that such an "excellent" game's network code is so badly written that it is unusable on a large network. > : When the PC version of DOOM became available locally at CMU, so many > : people started playing it that it swamped our net (which has a > : 600Mbit/sec backbone, BTW). The game has been banned here and also > : probably will be at the other large network sites (MIT, UPenn, > : UMichigan, etc) unless and until ID fixes it. > > IMHO, that makes is even cooler! It makes it seem even CRAZIER. "Cooler?" There are a lot of people on these campuses who have the facilities available to play on the net but can't. What's so wonderful about that? > But anwyay, how does the NeXT version compare to the MS-DOS version? I dunno, I've got black hardware. -Chuck Charles William Swiger -- CMU...*splat*! | 1. You can't fly. --------------------------------------------+ 2. Cars are always real, even AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | when they're not. Failing that: cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu | 3. Police are not your friends. NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | 4. Fire burns.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software From: mikes@ceco.ceco.com (Michael Stepniczka) Subject: Methodist 1.05 Message-ID: <CI1F0n.GJH@ceco.ceco.com> Keywords: method parser source Sender: root@ceco.ceco.com (Operator) Organization: Commonwealth Edison Co. Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1993 18:21:59 GMT I've posted another version of Methodist that adds a bit of functionality, chiefly: - RTF source files (.m) can now be parsed. - Double-clicking on the filename opens it even if there are no methods in it. - The app doesn't become active unless you click in on the title bar. - Lines beginning with a series of dashes, "-------", are now ignored. It's on cs.orst.edu in /pub/next/submissions/Methodist_1.05_FAT.tar.Z More information is in the on-line Help system. Mike Stepniczka mikes@ceco.ceco.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: coconut@crash.cts.com (Brian Dear) Subject: Is there a PARABASE mailing list? Organization: Coconut Computing, Inc. Date: 14 Dec 93 08:46:18 PST Message-ID: <1993Dec14.084618.19190@crash> Is there an internet mailing list dedicated to talking about PARABASE? - bd
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller) Subject: Re: Doom NeXT vs. Doom DOS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 References: <rorCHzApM.FB7@netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Organization: Gerhard Moeller, German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg. Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1993 21:54:37 GMT Message-ID: <1993Dec13.215437.815@proximus.north.de> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Will there be Doom for black mono hardware? -- +---------------------------< principiis obsta! >---------------------------+ N Gerhard Moeller, Hetzg. 32/11, A-1030 Wien (Austria) [*: 02/21/1968] N e Private: gemoe@proximus.north.de Phone (voice): +43-1-7151531 e X Uni: Gerhard.Moeller@arbi.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE NeXTmail X T Z-Net: Gerhard.Moeller@uniol.zer encouraged! T +-> NoGeNUG - Northern German NeXT User Group: NoGeNUG@proximus.north.DE <-+
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller) Subject: Re: Tape backup apps? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 References: <westesCHuyv9.LqE@netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Organization: Gerhard Moeller, German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg. Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1993 21:57:25 GMT Message-ID: <1993Dec13.215725.921@proximus.north.de> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Will Estes (westes@netcom.com) wrote: > Does anyone make a GUI tape backup program for NeXT that uses a > common UNIX format, like tar? enTar.app and Tarre.app use both GNU-tar SafetyNet.app uses something else, I think a superset of GNU tar. (A demo is on the archives, you might want to check it.) Gerhard. -- +---------------------------< principiis obsta! >---------------------------+ N Gerhard Moeller, Hetzg. 32/11, A-1030 Wien (Austria) [*: 02/21/1968] N e Private: gemoe@proximus.north.de Phone (voice): +43-1-7151531 e X Uni: Gerhard.Moeller@arbi.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE NeXTmail X T Z-Net: Gerhard.Moeller@uniol.zer encouraged! T +-> NoGeNUG - Northern German NeXT User Group: NoGeNUG@proximus.north.DE <-+
From: rao@tree.egr.uh.edu (Jagannatha Rao) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: BackspaceViews does not compile for me in NS/I 3.2 Date: 14 Dec 1993 21:36:29 GMT Organization: University of Houston Distribution: usa Message-ID: <2elbkt$f68@menudo.uh.edu> On my newly installed NS/FIP 3.2, "make install" fails for BackSpace views which are in the NextDeveloper/Examples/Appkit/BackspaceViews folder. The machine is at home, so I don't have the exact error. Anybody else tried? Thanks. -- Jagannatha Rao E-mail:rao@uh.edu Department of Mechanical Engineering Tel :(713) 743-4535 University of Houston Fax :(713) 743-4503 Houston, TX 77204-4792
From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: From Frame to Pages Date: 14 Dec 93 21:19:33 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <jeffo.755903973@uiuc.edu> References: <2dhn5e$5ou@hp4at.eunet.co.at> <jeffo.754800049@uiuc.edu> <931213.222530.9n2.rusnews.w164w@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> Russell Schulz writes: >this is still the case [that Pages isn't shipping], according to the >company itself (over the phone this week) Michelle at the Pages order desk told me the same when I called a while back. She also gave me the number of someone to contact about why they advertised saying they were shipping: (619) 492-9050 ext. 230 (8-5 Monday-Friday PST). The rep at that phone number told me that they had to place the advertising order when they thought they were going to ship, but it's been at least 4 months since that time. I was also told that although Pages won't give a specific date when they say they'll ship, they'll say that they'll probably ship at the end of January or sometime in the first quarter. I couldn't reach Laurie Eddy, Western sales manager for NeXTWORLD magazine (415) 978-3188, but it seems odd to me that if Pages knew they weren't going to be able to ship until next year sometime (if that), they would pull the ad for the December issue of NeXTWORLD. I wonder how much interest they're making on people's pre-paid orders that they haven't fulfilled. Is that money going to be paid back to them when they actually ship? -- J.B. Nicholson-Owens (*NO* NeXTmail please)
From: powell@tropic.aoml.erl.gov (Mark Powell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Does the Mapping App by Comnetix exist? Date: 14 Dec 1993 22:23:40 GMT Organization: U.S. Department of Commerce, NOAA/AOML Message-ID: <2eledc$m8l@wave.aoml.erl.gov> Does anyone know what has become of Comnetix Computer Systems? The 3rd Party Products book p. 22 lists them as having a mapping package that uses Census files and is called "Mapping". Since there appear to be no commercially or publicly available Geographic Information Systems available for NEXTSTEP it could have some potential but the phone number listed for them (416)-274-4060 is a dead end "your call cannot be completed..." recording. Has anyone tried Mapinfo for Windows or Arcview for windows via the new SoftPC for Intel? This may be the closest we will get to having GIS software running on a NEXTSTEP system. -- Dr. Mark D. Powell Research Meteorologist, CCM (Swimmer, Windsurfer, user of NEXTSTEP) NOAA Hurricane Research Division (appropriate disclaimers apply) Miami, Fl 33149 Voice (305) 361-4403 Fax (305) 361-4402
From: M.Crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk (Malcolm Crawford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: ImageViewer for NS/FIP Date: 14 Dec 1993 19:19:39 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9312150120.AA17605@dcs.shef.ac.uk> Funnily enough there's an app called ImageViewer... :-) Here's a recent-ish posting I sent about it... Have fun, mmalcolm. From: Malcolm Crawford <M.Crawford> Date: Wed, 6 Oct 93 16:58:26 GMT To: uk-nextstep-users@mailbase.ac.uk Subject: ImageViewer Reply-To: M.Crawford A while ago I forwarded a message about an image filter service for NS 3.0 called OmniImageFilter which automagically converts foreign file formats to NeXT recognised formats e.g. drag a GIF file into Edit and the image is be "changed" into a tiff file that Edit can display. A number of people asked me for copies, but some were disappointed by the fact that it was not available for Intel... They, and others, may therefore be pleased to learn of ImageViewer 0.9i which, in addition to being a general image-viewing and format converting utility, also includes a filter Service. It's available as a fat binary from src.doc.ic.ac.uk in computing/systems/next/3.0/bin/ImageViewer0.9i.tar.Z Part of the README follows. Many many thanks to Lennart Lovstrand for producing this! Have fun, mmalcolm. Welcome to ImageViewer 0.9i =========================== ImageViewer is a freeware application that gives you the ability to display and convert between a multitude of image formats. Among the supported formats are: atkras Andrew Rasterfiles (binary and ascii) read gif Graphics Interchange Format read itex ITEX Framegrabber Files read write pbm Jef Poskanzer's Portable Bitmaps (binary) read write pgm Jef Poskanzer's Portable Graymaps (binary) read write ppm Jef Poskanzer's Portable Pixmaps (binary) read write jpg JPEG File Interchange Format (JFIF) read write macp MacPaint Documents read write mtek Mikrotek Scanner Files read eps PostScript Encapsulated Files read write ps PostScript (plain) write ras Sun Rasterfiles read write rle UTAH Run-length Encoded Rasterfiles read icon Sun Icon Files (old and new format) read write tiff Tagged Image File Format read write face USENET Face Files read write xbm X11 Bitmaps read write ilisp Xerox Interlisp-D Source read brush Xerox Brush/Press Files read ais Xerox Array of Intensity Samples read ImageViewer is built around a general image reader/converter/writer that automatically identifies the type of each image by examining the contents of the file. File types (extensions) are only used if the content detector fails. The displayed images can be scaled, resized, and copied to the pasteboard as TIFFs, but that's pretty much all. ["all" ??!! -- ed.] To change the size of an image, bring up the inspector panel and type in the new width and height (in pixels). You can also scale it proportionally by entering a single scale factor in the scale field, or two factors (X and Y) separated by a slash. Note that either of these operations will only change your view of the image. If you save it, it will still be in its original size. *** This version of ImageViewer also includes a minimal image filtering service that can translate the listed formats to TIFF. The service will automatically be activated when any application that uses the NXImage object and wants to import an image file but doesn't understand the format. Try it by installing ImageViewer in ~/Apps or /LocalApps and drag a non-TIFF image into an Edit window or a Mail message. You should see the icon turn into the real image inside the Edit/Mail window after a short delay. Note that you haven't changed the image file itself, ie. if you send that message, you're really sending the original image file, not a TIFF version of it. --- There is also a command-line version, image, based on the same conversion engine as ImageViewer.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: tjyang@cc.nsysu.edu.tw (Tyng-Jing Yang) Subject: DialUP-IP on top of leased line successfully and question Message-ID: <TJYANG.93Dec15102952@cc.nsysu.edu.tw> Sender: news@news.nsysu.edu.tw Organization: NSYSU Computing Center Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1993 02:29:52 GMT Hi, there Finally my netowrok connection by leased-line is ok now. What I did is pretty trivial, get rid of the dialing part of the script. As said in the Documentation , "After some(possible infinite) period of inactiveity, the line is dropped freeing the modem for other uses." my question is how can I set the inactivity time to infinite time to infinite. Currently the line is dropped after 60 seconds of inactivity. I need manuall brinup the connection.(duioctl slip0 BRINGUP) The situation also stop me to from receiving the email and news. I try to play with the duioctl wihout success(crash the kernel once). Please give me a pointer if you know how Thanks in advance Tyng-Jing Yang
From: moncrief@boole.mayo.edu (Martin Moncrieffe) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: ispell 4.0 Date: 15 Dec 1993 03:52:37 GMT Organization: Mayo Foundation Message-ID: <2em1m5$bvd@fermat.mayo.edu> Has anyone been successful at istalling ispell 4.0 under NS 3.1? Thanks. -- Martin C. Moncrieffe Guggenheim 1496 200 First Street S.W. Rochester Mn 55901 email:moncrief@mayo.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: phil@zoam.cam.org (Philippe Jouve) Subject: Re: Screensaver Message-ID: <1993Dec15.003622.1280@zoam.cam.org> Sender: phil@zoam.cam.org (Philippe JOUVE) References: <1993Dec13.195847.442@dart.de> Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1993 00:36:22 GMT In article <1993Dec13.195847.442@dart.de> wbeeck@dart.de (Wilfried Beeck) writes: > In article <2ehkmi$hvs@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> > seubert@cip.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Klemens Seubert) writes: > > Hi, > > > > is there a screensaver application like BackSpace which works too > > if nobody is logged in. > > > > Login as root, start Terminal and type this: > > dwrite loginwindow TimeToDim 60 Her are other drwite for the login window : dwrite loginwindow MovementRate 0.0333 dwrite loginwindow HostName zoam dwrite loginwindow MoveWhenIdle YES dwrite loginwindow MovementScale 5 dwrite loginwindow MovementTimeout 5 dwrite loginwindow TimeToDim 2040 -- Philippe Jouve | Apple's Newton MessagePad phil@zoam.cam.org | The coolest electronic NeXT Mail encouraged | toy of the year CANADA |
From: ricardo@pencom.com (Ricardo Parada) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.hp Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP Portable Distributed Objects for HP Released Yet? Date: 15 Dec 1993 04:10:32 GMT Organization: Pencom Sofware Message-ID: <2em2no$m3h@digdug.pencom.com> References: <2e4u90$it2@wave.aoml.erl.gov> In comp.sys.next.software you wrote: > Any comments on performance and how it is being applied within > the "enterprise" would be greatly appreciated. > I saw a demo here at Pencom. It looks to me like the application for distributed objects other than enabling objects to communicate across the network without the need for a special language or coding overhead is the ability to encapsulate engines that take a lot of resources (i.e. CPU time, memory, disk space, etc). This way the developer can prototype software and when the real test comes the object can be moved to a more powerful platform (i.e. server) and leave the user interface and the rest of the software running on a less powerful client or maybe, thousands of clients. Distributed Objects are currently written in Objective-C. They are transport independent and will be possible (later?) to hook objects with other non-Objective C languages. With Objective-C there's really nothing special to make an object a distributed object. When you decide to run your object on another process or computer, there's really no need for special code. Probably just a couple of lines to ask the network for the object. Once the object (or proxy) is obtained you can start messaging the object. The "same" syntax used for other objects within your application. The proxy simply forwards the message along with its arguments to the remote object. On the server object, you may make it multi-threaded to make your server more responsive to the different clients. The demo here at Pencom included the mandelbrot application using a server to compute a picture it displays on the screen. The one using the server running on an HP with HP UX was about five times fasters not to mention that it was not a fast box. -- Ricardo J. Parada Pencom Software Austin, Texas
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Is there a News reader for NextStep/Intel ? Date: 13 Dec 1993 22:37:54 +0100 Organization: Palumbian Research Labs Message-ID: <2einbi$d2@marsu.tynet.sub.org> References: <1993Dec8.223150.8907@seer.demon.co.uk> <CHu4C1.sx@nexus.uucp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit dave@alembicla.com(David W. Fahrney) writes: >So, Where does one find NewsBase? ftp.uni-stuttgart.de /pub/systems/next/Usenet It should be on cs.orst.edu, too. -- Marsu: "Es gibt tatsaechlich Leute, die ohne Computer gluecklich und zufrieden leben." -- Frankie: "Ach was, die emulieren das doch nur!" ----- Markus Wenzel System administration, Consulting, Networking mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org on... NeXTSTEP / Unix / Novell / Windows NT IRC: Marsu Intel aside.
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP Portable Distributed Objects for HP Released Yet? Date: 15 Dec 1993 05:28:29 GMT Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz Distribution: world Message-ID: <2em79t$lb3@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> References: <2em2no$m3h@digdug.pencom.com> In article <2em2no$m3h@digdug.pencom.com> ricardo@pencom.com (Ricardo Parada) writes: > With Objective-C there's really nothing > special to make an object a distributed object. When you decide to run > your object on another process or computer, there's really no need for > special code. Probably just a couple of lines to ask the network for the > object. Once the object (or proxy) is obtained you can start messaging > the object. The "same" syntax used for other objects within your > application. The proxy simply forwards the message along with its > arguments to the remote object. Unfortunately, this isn't generally true as I've just discovered trying to write a DO version of the simple DCE demo app in the current UNIX Review. One must consider the efficiency of the client-server messaging. If lots of messaging will occur, it may be more efficient to move a copy of the object rather than just a proxy across the connection. If this is the case, then additional coding will be required for any objects that don't conform to the NXTransport protocol. Passing non-string arrays as method arguments doesn't work when the data are needed on the server. Such methods must be rewritten to pass data in container objects like NXData, a Storage subclass, or some custom NXTransport-conforming object. And probably the most serious problem that cannot be ignored is the potential byte-order difference between client and server. This can result in a lot of repetitive, but not difficult, recoding to ensure this conversion. While NeXT has done a nice job with DO in general, I would like to see some more of these details handled automatically, especially the byte-order issue. -- Art Isbell Cubic Solutions NeXT Registered Consultant NEXTSTEP software development and consulting NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: +1 408 335 1154 USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: +1 408 335 2515
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: chipsig@kaiwan.com (Chip Sieglinger) Subject: MicroPhone bug with NS 3.2 Message-ID: <CI2CqH.L95@kaiwan.com> Organization: KAIWAN Internet Access (310-527-4279,714-539-0829,830-6061,818-579-6701) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1993 06:30:17 GMT After installing NS3.2 on my TurboCube, I find I'm unable to reliably perform zmodem downloads from my dialup host. Generally the transfer will occur for small text files, but no go on the larger binaries. The initial header will not transfer, and the process hangs up. I'm then forced to kill the process, as I no longer have any control over aborting the transfer. If I attempt to abort, I get the incredible eternally spinning wheel. Software Ventures, (MicroPhone folks), sent me a beta which was supposed to fix the bug. It didn't. And it was painful trying to get meaningful support from them. Has anyone else seen the problem with the combination of 3.2 and MP Pro? Oh yeah, xmodem didn't work either, but I didn't really play with it. Maybe I need another comm program. Any ideas? Thanks, Chip
From: 39clocks@violet.berkeley.edu (Peter Marinac) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: MicroPhone bug with NS 3.2 Date: 15 Dec 1993 07:12:12 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Sender: 39clocks@violet.berkeley.edu(Peter Marinac) Distribution: na Message-ID: <2emdcc$7qs@agate.berkeley.edu> References: <CI2CqH.L95@kaiwan.com> Keywords: microphone, zmodem I have been reasonably successful at getting zmodem to work again for me under 3.2black by setting the 'Esc Ctrl Chars' option in the zmodem inspector in microphone and then executing the following on the host to use escapes: sz -ek bigfile.Z Hope it works for you.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson) Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP Portable Distributed Objects for HP Released Yet? Message-ID: <1993Dec15.115230.21389@news.media.mit.edu> Sender: news@news.media.mit.edu (USENET News System) Organization: MIT Media Laboratory References: <2em2no$m3h@digdug.pencom.com> <2em79t$lb3@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1993 11:52:30 GMT In article <2em79t$lb3@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) writes: >>In article <2em2no$m3h@digdug.pencom.com> ricardo@pencom.com (Ricardo >>Parada) writes: >>> With Objective-C there's really nothing >>> special to make an object a distributed object. When you decide to run >>> your object on another process or computer, there's really no need for >>> special code. Probably just a couple of lines to ask the network for >>the >>> object. Once the object (or proxy) is obtained you can start messaging >>> the object. The "same" syntax used for other objects within your >>> application. The proxy simply forwards the message along with its >>> arguments to the remote object. >> >> Unfortunately, this isn't generally true as I've just discovered trying >>to write a DO version of the simple DCE demo app in the current UNIX >>Review. >> One must consider the efficiency of the client-server messaging. If >>lots of messaging will occur, it may be more efficient to move a copy of >>the object rather than just a proxy across the connection. If this is the >>case, then additional coding will be required for any objects that don't >>conform to the NXTransport protocol. >> Passing non-string arrays as method arguments doesn't work when the >>data are needed on the server. Such methods must be rewritten to pass >>data in container objects like NXData, a Storage subclass, or some custom >>NXTransport-conforming object. >> And probably the most serious problem that cannot be ignored is the >>potential byte-order difference between client and server. This can >>result in a lot of repetitive, but not difficult, recoding to ensure this >>conversion. >> While NeXT has done a nice job with DO in general, I would like to see >>some more of these details handled automatically, especially the >>byte-order issue. As someone who's been writing distributed object code for the last six years, let me just say that I think NeXT's done a very nice job of balancing the communication vs computation seesaw that you're always on with this stuff. I wrote something similar to PDO a few years ago called "active objects" which serve as the core for my PhD system, and while I can understand you wanting things like byte ordering taken care of automatically, keep in mind that there are lots of data streams (raw image data, for example), which you don't want the data frobbed. I haven't really played with PDOs much, but I actually applaud the fact that NeXT lets you in at that level. I rolled my own 5 years ago because I needed a sometimes synchronous, sometimes asynchronous, efficient abstract datatypeable messaging model, and there weren't any that were clean enough to glom onto. PDO still isn't portable enough for my stuff, but if I were starting over now, I would probably use it as it looks like it will attain sufficient ubiquity to be really useful. The essence of distributed programming is the ratio between communication and computation. One thing that my system lets you do is try and balance that by measuring things like messaging costs and computation costs, and then allowing you to redistribute your objects automatically. Since I've embedded the whole thing inside IB (with proxies for the various active objects on a palette), it's pretty easy to start up, distribute the objects, measure things, go out of test interface (really, test app) mode, tweak things, and go. I'd like to see NeXT have tools for helping programmers understand the amount and type of communication there objects are doing, as well as computation, and then allow the PDO system to take the hints. In my system, there are "aocos", which are active object companies which act as vendors for active objects. When an app starts up, each class goes out and gets a list of all the vendors in its neighborhood that sell objects of its class. The factory object then goes and knocks on each vendors door, trying to get a blank RFQ (request for quotation, my IBM roots are showing). Of 30 listed vendors, only 10 might actually respond at this point. Then when the factory object is asked to instance an object, it scribbles some info on the RFQ and sends it to to each vendor. Each vendor responds, and there are various bidding strategies you can allow/promote here. An important point for me is that since the messaging is going on in a dynamic language (in my case, my extended version of tcl), this bidding can be arbirtrarily interesting (i.e. it's not just "highest number wins", it might be "best cpu vs. fastest disk vs. in Martin's group of HPs vs...). Anyway, once the quotes come in, the factory object sends a filled in PO (purchase order) to the vendor, who responds with an object handle. None of this stuff is wildly original, check out "The Ecology of Computation" edited by B.A. Huberman. The neat thing really is that this stuff is built into the lowest level of my system, has been there for years, and I don't reallly have to think about it anymore. Distributiveness isn't an issue anymore for me, but optimizing it is. I told this stuff to Avi a few years ago when DO were first introduced, and certainly none of these ideas are new to him either. I guess this is my longwinded way of trying to make that point that if I had my druthers in what I wanted to see NeXT spend time on in improving PDO, it would have less to do with them hiding certain fundamental data transport issues from the programmer and more with (1) providing tools for programmers to understand the real world implementation issues going on in balancing communication and computation and (2) improving the infrastructure for allowing applications to automatically redistribute themselves over a network over time, annealing themselves to a better solution as time goes on and the particular needs of that application become apparent. -- --> Michael B. Johnson -- wave@media.mit.edu --> MIT Media Lab -- Computer Graphics & Animation Group --> 20 Ames St. E15-023G -- (617) 547-0563 (day office) --> Cambridge, MA 02139 -- (617) 253-0663 (night office)
From: S A McIntyre <S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Mandlebrot DSP Date: 15 Dec 1993 12:21:29 GMT Organization: University of Durham, Durham, UK Sender: dps3sam@altair (S A McIntyre) Distribution: world Message-ID: <2emvg9$civ@mercury.dur.ac.uk> Could someone please OFFER to send me the DSP using version of Mandlebrot? I think that the version that came with 3.0/3.1/3.2 is using the CPU instead...Please do not NeXTMAIL it, as I know I'll end up getting four billion copies. many thanks! Scott
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: botma@cs.utwente.nl (Bart Botma) Subject: Re: Doom NeXT vs. Doom DOS Message-ID: <CI2MMq.6wp@cs.utwente.nl> Sender: usenet@cs.utwente.nl Organization: Twente University, Dept. of Computer Science References: <rorCI0yzA.454@netcom.com> Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1993 10:04:02 GMT ror@netcom.com (RatSnatcher) writes: > But anwyay, how does the NeXT version compare to the MS-DOS version? There is sound with the pc version. And mouse control. And save/load. Apart from that, they are almost identical. Of course, the dos version is faster at larger screen sizes. But i get motion sickness in full screen view, therefore i prefer a quiet 100% next doom window which allows me to do other things as well. Bart PS. How does one program a game like doom? I'm sure that my computer is not capable of that many 3d affine transformations to create such a killer 3d scenary. -- ___/T\_______ Bart Botma, botma@cs.utwente.nl, University of Twente ,--_ |___\I/ _ __| Department of Computer Science, Tele-Informatics & /)_( ) | | O / \ (_ | Open Systems Group, P.O.Box 217, NL-7500 AE, Enschede (___ / |_|__S_\_/___)| The Netherlands,phone:+31-53-893755,fax:+31-53-333815 =/ \)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: tlm@tantalus.scl.ameslab.gov (Tom Marchioro) Subject: SUMMARY of Re: Which X server to use? Message-ID: <CI329E.D60@news.iastate.edu> Sender: news@news.iastate.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA References: <CHoAy0.G7D@csn.org> Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1993 15:41:37 GMT Erik Mugele writes []Tom Marchioro (tlm@tantalus.scl.ameslab.gov) wrote: [] [][some stuff deleted] [] []: Could some knowledgeable soul please give me a quick rundown on any or all []: of these various packages? What should I get for the moment, and what for []: the long run? [] []If the rundown could be posted to this newsgroup, it would be helpful several []people that I know of. [] []Thanks, []Erik I received about 10 replies. Virtually all of them said "get Cube-X" and one (from Barney Frazier) said get X-NeXT. I was a little disappointed not to get more information on the usefulness of Mouse-X, etc. but based on the general agreement have decided to order a copy of Cube-X. Hope this is vaguely helpful --- Tom -- Dr. Thomas L. Marchioro II Two-wheeled theoretical physicist Center for Physical and Computational Mathematics 515-294-5543 Ames Laboratory 515-233-1216 (home) Ames, Iowa 50011 tlm@iastate.edu
From: brian@arl.wustl.edu (Brianosaurus) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: PGPServices Date: 15 Dec 1993 15:55:59 GMT Organization: Washington University, St. Louis, MO Message-ID: <2enc2f$ms8@wuecl.wustl.edu> OK...I screwed up. The PGPServices thing doesn't set paths and environment variables and such, so without a little tweaking, it probably won't work for you right out of the...well, I guess not a box, but you know what I mean. I am going to look into it and add a couple more things to let you search and select your paths, so it will correctly set the environment variables it uses. I'll hopefully have it in the next couple of days. but for now, you need to add something like: set env(PGPPATH) "/usra/brian/pgp" append env(PATH) ":/usra/brian/bin/" (but of course using your paths) to the !Initialization! pseudo-service. That should make it work for now. -- Brian Gottlieb brian@clarisse.wustl.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: u610142@csi.uottawa.ca Subject: NeXT Mail Mailboxes / elm Message-ID: <1993Dec15.181510.9622@csi.uottawa.ca> Keywords: NeXT Mail,Mailboxes,elm,e-mail Sender: news@csi.uottawa.ca Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, University of Ottawa Date: Wed, 15 Dec 93 18:15:10 GMT Does anyone know how to transfer the contents of a NeXT Mail Mailbox into an elm or mail mailbox, such as is used on our Sun unix systems? (The reverse transfer would also be useful.) Preferably, there would be a program to do the conversion. I am able to manually forward mail to myself, but this is an ugly and tedious workaround (and is impossible to do remotely, such as when logged in by modem and the NeXTStep interface is unavailable). If not, does anyone know the file formats used by the two programs so I could write something myself? Any information would be greatly appreciated; please mail me at u610142@csi.uottawa.ca (in Non-NeXT Mail format, please). BTW, the hardware we have is: NeXT Cubes (mostly 68030 variety), Sun Sparcstations, and MS-DOS/Windows PCs. ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// / Wratko "The Rat Man" Hlavina 4th year Honours Math-Science student / / University of Ottawa, Canada / Internet ddress Unix (NeXT/Sun): u610142@csi.uottawa.ca / /\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\/
From: me@ienext.unl.edu (Dan Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Plagued by daemon! (TickleServices) Date: 15 Dec 1993 16:46:38 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Message-ID: <2enf1e$1u5@crcnis1.unl.edu> A few days ago I finally obtained a demo copy of TickleServices from cs.orst.edu. I installed the copy as per the directions only to discover that the demo copy had `expired'. So I grabbed the application and deleted it. (I'll try it some other time I told myself.) The problem is that now when I login I get an error beep (well, actually the rooster crows...) When I check the console I find that it is complaining about not being able to launch a TickleServices daemon. So how can I make it stop trying to launch this daemon (which no longer exists)? And since everyone seems to think this is a cool `must have' app, how can I get ahold of a working version? Thanks in advance! -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dan Scott me@ienext.unl.edu NeXT mail welcome --------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: jirapa@nextdown.pe.utexas.edu (Jirapa Skolnakorn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: installing mathematica with optical only Date: 15 Dec 1993 17:44:00 GMT Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas Message-ID: <2enid0$ksq@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> Keywords: optcal crive and installing mathematic Hi, I was given mathematica with my purchase of an 030 cube. How would I install mathematica on the cube without the floppy drive. When I had tried to install the software from the files copied on the optical, it gave me a warning that there were some files not found and that I need to install from the original disks. Is there a config file that I have to amend in the installation files? Your replies are appreciated. Jirapa
From: jirapa@nextdown.pe.utexas.edu (Jirapa Skolnakorn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: installing mathematica with optical only Date: 15 Dec 1993 17:44:21 GMT Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas Message-ID: <2enidl$kuu@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> Hi, I was given mathematica with my purchase of an 030 cube. How would I install mathematica on the cube without the floppy drive. When I had tried to install the software from the files copied on the optical, it gave me a warning that there were some files not found and that I need to install from the original disks. Is there a config file that I have to amend in the installation files? Your replies are appreciated. Jirapa
From: jirapa@nextdown.pe.utexas.edu (Jirapa Skolnakorn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: installing mathematica with optical only Date: 15 Dec 1993 17:44:32 GMT Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas Message-ID: <2enie0$l0m@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> Hi, I was given mathematica with my purchase of an 030 cube. How would I install mathematica on the cube without the floppy drive. When I had tried to install the software from the files copied on the optical, it gave me a warning that there were some files not found and that I need to install from the original disks. Is there a config file that I have to amend in the installation files? Your replies are appreciated. Jirapa
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: nico@imani.cam.org (Nicolas Dore) Subject: Re: Screensaver Message-ID: <1993Dec15.165320.2423@imani.cam.org> Sender: nico@imani.cam.org References: <1993Dec15.003622.1280@zoam.cam.org> Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1993 16:53:20 GMT In article <1993Dec15.003622.1280@zoam.cam.org> phil@zoam.cam.org (Philippe Jouve) writes: > In article <1993Dec13.195847.442@dart.de> wbeeck@dart.de (Wilfried Beeck) > writes: > > In article <2ehkmi$hvs@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> > > seubert@cip.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Klemens Seubert) writes: > > > Hi, > > > > > > is there a screensaver application like BackSpace which works too > > > if nobody is logged in. > > > > > > > Login as root, start Terminal and type this: > > > > dwrite loginwindow TimeToDim 60 > > Her are other drwite for the login window : > dwrite loginwindow MovementRate 0.0333 > dwrite loginwindow HostName zoam > dwrite loginwindow MoveWhenIdle YES > dwrite loginwindow MovementScale 5 > dwrite loginwindow MovementTimeout 5 > dwrite loginwindow TimeToDim 2040 Is this for pre-3.1 or post? I got 3.2, and TimeToIdle doesn't do nothin'! Ciao > Philippe Jouve | Apple's Newton MessagePad -- Nicolas Dore nico@imani.cam.org - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > "Le calembour est la fiente du mot qui vole." < > Victor Hugo <
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: gibraltar!wiley (Wiley S. Hodges) Subject: Re: Does the Mapping App by Comnetix exist? Message-ID: <1993Dec15.185208.651@lighthouse.com> Sender: wiley@lighthouse.com Organization: Lighthouse Design, Ltd. References: <2eledc$m8l@wave.aoml.erl.gov> Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1993 18:52:08 GMT powell@tropic.aoml.erl.gov (Mark Powell) writes: [other stuff deleted] > available for NEXTSTEP it could have some potential but the phone number > listed for them (416)-274-4060 is a dead end "your call cannot be > completed..." recording. Has anyone tried Mapinfo for Windows or Arcview I believe that the non-metro (for postal codes not beginning w/ the letter M) area code for the Toronto area changed a couple of months ago. 905 is the new area code. ComnetiX Computer Systems, Inc. 1440 Hurontario Street Mississauga, Ontario Canada, L5G 3H4 905-274-4060 I just called a minute ago, and Comnetix is still alive and well. --Wiley -- Wiley Hodges wiley@lighthouse.com Lighthouse Design, Ltd. NeXTMail OK
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: vfr750@netcom.com (Will Hartung) Subject: Re: MicroPhone bug with NS 3.2 Message-ID: <vfr750CI3IqI.76M@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) References: <CI2CqH.L95@kaiwan.com> Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1993 21:37:29 GMT chipsig@kaiwan.com (Chip Sieglinger) writes: >After installing NS3.2 on my TurboCube, I find I'm unable to reliably perform >zmodem downloads from my dialup host. Generally the transfer will occur for >small text files, but no go on the larger binaries. The initial header will >not transfer, and the process hangs up. I'm then forced to kill the process, >as I no longer have any control over aborting the transfer. If I attempt to >abort, I get the incredible eternally spinning wheel. I have the same problem with MicroPhone zmodem running 3.1. I haven't tried it on 3.2. yet. This on a non-Turbo slab. I sent messages to SV, and they said they were going to send me something, but nothing ever showed up and I'm still waiting. I've moved over to kermit and zmodem for the current time, which works pretty well. -- Will Hartung - Hermosa Beach, Lower Left Coast. vfr750@netcom.com 1990 VFR750 - VFR=Very Red "Ho, HaHa, Dodge, Parry, Spin, HA! THRUST!" 1993 Explorer - Cage? Hell, it's a prison. -D. Duck
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: pvinson@gryphon.laafb.af.mil Subject: Re: what word processors are left? Content-Type: text/plain Message-ID: <pvinson.93Dec15141847@gryphon> Sender: news@math.fu-berlin.de (Math Department) Organization: Free University of Berlin, Germany References: <rawyattCHonDC.8Lt@netcom.com> <1993Dec8.124923.316@afs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Distribution: fj Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1993 13:18:47 GMT [munch munch] Michael_Pizolato writes "That's correct. WriteUp V1.0 will ship on 12/31 (of _this_ year ;-), but will not have the WordPerfect capability. We will release a WordPerfect DIB (Document Interchange Bundle) in the first quarter, which will install into the existing WriteUp V1.0 and will allow read/write of WP-format documents. A DIB for MS-Word will follow soon after, and others will come later as demand dictates. " Andrew, will WU with the DIBs installed be settable to use a given format as its "native" format? Ie, I am the network manager for a medium-size network using Mac and Windows. To give my (rather feeble) Windoze users NS, I need solutions to read/write MS Office formats (the standard for the rest of the Air Force base I work on) . In addition, my users are probably not going to remember to "Save As...MS Word" when they save files. Since we do heavy file sharing, other users are going to try and l oad these files, and fail, if the user has forgotten to save in Word format. So I would like, as a network manager, the ability to "set" WU to use a given format automagically. Will these be possible under WU? PLEASE say yes. Patrick Vinson
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: shayman@Objectario.com (Steve Hayman) Subject: Re: Does the Mapping App by Comnetix exist? Message-ID: <1993Dec15.151045.813@objectario.com> Sender: shayman@objectario.com Organization: Steve Hayman + Associates References: <2eledc$m8l@wave.aoml.erl.gov> Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1993 15:10:45 GMT > Does anyone know what has become of Comnetix Computer Systems? > (416) 274-4060 doesn't work. They're still around. Try (905) 274-4060. The (416) area code split in two a couple of months ago. 416 is Metro Toronto itself; the rest of the old 416 area code, including Mississauga (where Comnetix is) is now 905. If you know someone's address in the old 416 area, check the postal code. if it begins with "M", they're still in 416; if it begins with something else (i.e. "L" ) they're in 905. Regards, Steve --- Steve Hayman shayman@Objectario.com Steve Hayman & Associates, Toronto, Ontario (416) 769-8995 NeXTSTEP Consulting
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software From: clloyd@gleap (Charles C. Lloyd) Subject: Re: Methodist 1.05 Message-ID: <1993Dec15.210950.968@gleap.sccsi.com> Sender: clloyd@gleap.sccsi.com Organization: GiantLeap Software References: <CI1F0n.GJH@ceco.ceco.com> Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1993 21:09:50 GMT Michael Stepniczka writes > >I've posted another version of Methodist that adds a bit of functionality, >chiefly: > >- RTF source files (.m) can now be parsed. >- Double-clicking on the filename opens it even if there are no methods in it. >- The app doesn't become active unless you click in on the title bar. >- Lines beginning with a series of dashes, "-------", are now ignored. > >It's on cs.orst.edu in /pub/next/submissions/Methodist_1.05_FAT.tar.Z > For those who are interrested in the rtf-handling feature of this, if you have your own copy of rtf-ascii anywhere on the system other than /usr/bin/rtf-ascii (as might be the case if you were ever using the old rtf-aware preprocessor I posted long ago), you may find that Methodist will not parse your files. The solution to this is to move (or rename) your copy of rtf-ascii so the NeXT-provided copy will be found. The main problem is that the syntax of the two are different. I believe this should only be a temporary workaround. Charles. -- Charles Lloyd clloyd@GLeap.sccsi.com GiantLeap Software (713) 292-2442 or 363-0887 (Hou) (713) 363-0936 (fax)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: westes@netcom.com (Will Estes) Subject: Reading NeXTMAIL copied from a SunOS system? Message-ID: <westesCI3svG.6HL@netcom.com> Organization: Mail Group Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1993 01:16:26 GMT I'm new to NeXT, so forgive a novice question on mail: I have received some NeXTMAIL to a SunOS system. How do I read it after copying it to the NeXT? I uudecode the thing, which leaves me with a bizarre long filename starting with .tar. and ending with .attach. What do I do to this binary *.attach file to read it? -- Will Estes Internet: westes@netcom.com
From: rlion@access3.digex.net (rebel lion) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: dwrite ? Date: 15 Dec 1993 21:11:05 -0500 Organization: Rebellion System, Alexandria, VA Message-ID: <rlion.756007801@access3> will that dwrite loginwindow TimeToDim 60 only work when your logged out? is 60 in seconds or minutes? will just typing it once make it work like always, does it write it to some file? or should i do it every time i boot or what? thjanks.. (i dont have man page for it, so i have to ask) :) -- rebel lion (rlion@access.digex.net) (alpha pager: (704) 356-3140) (heko) =-= finger my account for computer stuff i have forsale =-= void life() { aint_nothing(but_a,good->groove);
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: fleminmk@fe808.cc.purdue.edu (Michael K Fleming) Subject: Re: Doom NeXT vs. Doom DOS Message-ID: <fleminmk.756011731@fe808.cc.purdue.edu> Sender: news@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (USENET News) Organization: Purdue University References: <rorCI0yzA.454@netcom.com> <CI2MMq.6wp@cs.utwente.nl> Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1993 03:15:31 GMT botma@cs.utwente.nl (Bart Botma) writes: >PS. How does one program a game like doom? I'm sure that my computer is > not capable of that many 3d affine transformations to create such > a killer 3d scenary. Well, fast graphics has always been trickery. If you actually believe they're doing 3d transformations all the time, they've got you fooled. Watch the game carefully, and look at where the game can make optimizations. In many cases, the trick is actually shearing the piece. I would guess that they make heavy use of lookup tables, and pre-drawn views. The light shading is REALLY slick, since that seems to actually be done on the fly. There must be a look-up for that too. And notice one thing: the view ALWAYS is a straight vertical plane. That means they only have to ever rotate things on one axis. Maybe Carmak and Romero will write a book and enlighten us all. I was awe-struck by the job they did on Wolf3D, but the job they did on Doom just ...I don't know what to say. I'm not worthy. <smile> As for why the boot-up so closely resembles a NeXT/FIP bootup--well they must be big NeXT freaks to have gone to the trouble of releasing a NeXTSTEP version. I mean, you don't think they're planning on making earnings anywhere comparable to the DOS version on the NEXTSTEP version, do you? Actually, Wolf3D had an easter-egg that said something about drawing directly to the screen on a Color NeXTstation. Mike
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bvv1@crux2.cit.cornell.edu (Bhaskar V Viswanadham) Subject: GIFs, sounds for NeXT Message-ID: <bvv1.756014795@crux1.cit.cornell.edu> Sender: usenet@piccolo.cit.cornell.edu (NNTP Connect) Organization: Cornell University Date: 16 Dec 93 04:06:35 GMT Hi there! I apologize in advance if this question has already been answered, but where can one get software that will allow (say) GIF files that can be viewed by the xwindows environment to be viewed on the NeXT? The same goes with sound files. And how much memeory is needed for these files? Thanx in advance, Bhaskar
From: cmr@po.EECS.Berkeley.EDU (CMR) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Looking for inexpensive/free communications sware Date: 16 Dec 1993 06:10:37 GMT Organization: University of California, at Berkeley Distribution: usa Message-ID: <2eou4t$t4c@agate.berkeley.edu> When I got my NeXT, I did not have any communications software beyond the tools available from UNIX. I figured out how to use tip to connect to an ftp site and used uuencode + text copy/past to obtain kermit. I've been using it for over a year now and though I've had no problems transfering files and other typical communications tasks, it's time to byte the bullet and get some software that does justice to the NeXT's interface. Does anyone know of an ftp site that has a respectable communications program or a software package you'd recommend? I know very little about Microphone; would you recommend buying it? Please send your responses to clyde@euler.berkeley.edu. Thanks.
From: jedubins@unix.amherst.edu (Just a fellow traveller...) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXTMail -> MIME, MIME -> NeXTMail Date: 16 Dec 1993 01:34:35 -0500 Organization: Limbo, Org. (how low can you go) Message-ID: <2eovhr$g3a@amhux3.amherst.edu> [ Article crossposted from comp.mail.mime ] [ Author was Just a fellow traveller... (jedubins@unix.amherst.edu) ] [ Posted on 15 Dec 1993 19:17:27 -0500 ] I read some FAQ somewhere about the n2m program which will translate a NeXTMail message into my format not promising the conversion of all information. Unfortunately to even use this you need to save messages one at a time, and then filter them manually, at least from within elm. I have elm and metamail installed, for X I have Mumail. I was wondering if any more advanced hacks had been done than n2m. Maybe one which would filter the message as it came to the destination machine with MIME. I run a a freeware *nix, Linux, and I keep a daemon program running on my host which every 30 seconds checks to see if mail is there and downloads it via tupload from term1.0.8(tcp/ip redirection package with slip like capabilities), and concatenates on my /usr/spool/mail/<username> file. I was wondering if there was anything that would help me in this situation. Or something like n2m which would allow me to process a whole mail folder at once, a foler mixed with MIME, non-MIME, and NeXTMail. I think MIME support might be in NS 3.1-- but we're still running 3.0 at our site, and it doesn't look like they're going to upgrade any time soon. Also, is there any conversion program that will allow me to translate files from MIME to NeXTMail format? This would also be useful. Thanks, Jim
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: ak866@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Steven Besler) Subject: Re: Doom NeXT vs. Doom DOS Message-ID: <CI475t.7s5@freenet.carleton.ca> Sender: news@freenet.carleton.ca Organization: The National Capital FreeNet References: <fleminmk.756011731@fe808.cc.purdue.edu> <rorCI0yzA.454@netcom.com> <CI2MMq.6wp@cs.utwente.nl> Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1993 06:25:04 GMT In a previous article, fleminmk@fe808.cc.purdue.edu (Michael K Fleming) says: >botma@cs.utwente.nl (Bart Botma) writes: > >anywhere comparable to the DOS version on the NEXTSTEP version, do you? >Actually, Wolf3D had an easter-egg that said something about drawing >directly to the screen on a Color NeXTstation. Cool, please tell us how to get it to do that, so I can amaze and disgrace all the DOS weenies I know! Steve. -- Steven K. Besler | Life fluctuates between boredom, fascination, and ak866@freenet.carleton.ca | panic; punctuated by sleep, alcohol, and caffeine.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com Subject: Re: Flat-file database adapter? Message-ID: <1993Dec16.050140.5428@hot.com> Sender: robertl@hot.com Organization: Hot Technologies References: <1993Dec14.002214.17968@news.media.mit.edu> Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1993 05:01:40 GMT I'll second Michael's comments. The IXAdaptor demo was very impressive. Yes, there is an Intel version. Robert In article <1993Dec14.002214.17968@news.media.mit.edu> wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson) writes: > In article <1993Dec13.205733.29454@beech.csis.gvsu.edu> wissner@beech.csis.gvsu.edu (Jim Wissner) writes: > >> > >>Hello: > >> > >>I seem to remember something about there existing a flat-file database > >>adapter available for the NeXT. Does anyone know anything about this, > >>ie from where, how much, how does it work, and is there an intel version? > >> > > IXAdaptor from VNP Software. I think it's $249, no discounts. Saw a demo > of their products last week at a BCS meeting - very impressive. Smart > people. > > info (see their add p 12 of NW) 802-496-7799, fax 802-496-7790, email > is Product_Info@vnp.com > > > > -- > --> Michael B. Johnson -- wave@media.mit.edu > --> MIT Media Lab -- Computer Graphics & Animation Group > --> 20 Ames St. E15-023G -- (617) 547-0563 (day office) > --> Cambridge, MA 02139 -- (617) 253-0663 (night office)
From: gbol@custard.think.com (Gregory Lampshire) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: PRESS RELEASE: Wolfram Research Releases Mathematica for NEXTSTEP for Intel Date: 16 Dec 93 07:57:32 Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA Message-ID: <GBOL.93Dec16075732@custard.think.com> References: <2djpca$ss5@digifix.digifix.com> <2dtrlj$p1@marsu.tynet.sub.org> <CHu4C7.E9J@news.iastate.edu> In-reply-to: chris@iastate.edu's message of Fri, 10 Dec 1993 19:48:06 GMT >> * Price and Availability * >> Mathematica under NEXTSTEP for Intel processors will begin shipping >> in December and is priced at $1245. Academic pricing starts at >> $995. Volume discounts and academic site licenses are available. > >Shame on you. Why not pricing the academic release to $1239.95 ??? >Show me one single student having a thousand bucks for Mathematica. $995!? This ridiculous pricing can buy 4 copies of Mac versions.!!!! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I believe that some universities have site lic. agreements where students can get a unix lic. and the software at PC prices or cheaper as the above mentions. gregory
From: disc@vector.intercon.com (David Casti) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: List Server Help Date: 16 Dec 1993 15:20:22 GMT Organization: InterCon Systems Corporation, Herndon, VA, USA Message-ID: <2epubm$kh8@news.intercon.com> Hi folks, I need to set up an automatic list server on my 3.1 box. Basically, I'd like my list server to: 1. Handle subscribe/unsubscribe 2. Archive list traffic 3. Add reply-to, or change "from" to "sender" and make the list address be the from field. 4. Send me a report of the day's activity A GUI would be great, but that's probably asking way too much. Can someone steer me in the right direction? Thanks, David.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bruce@TotSysSoft.com (Bruce Gingery) Subject: Warning: RICH TEXT FOLLOWUP to Filters Next ---> Mac Message-ID: <1993Dec14.182619.997@ToTSySSoft.com> Sender: news@ToTSySSoft.com Organization: Total System Software References: <PAEDU.93Dec14094235@flight.ethz.ch> Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1993 18:26:19 GMT In article <PAEDU.93Dec14094235@flight.ethz.ch> paedu@fest.ac.chem.ethz.ch (Patrick Hofmann) writes: -> -> Hello -> -> Sorry if this is a faq, but... -> -> Recently I bought a Powerbook;-( Well, there's no portable NeXT -> at this price.) -> I am using Writenow 2.1 on NS, and MacWriteII on the MAC. -> There's no problem when I read files from the mac (I save -> them using the filter write2.0-2.2), but I have some -> problems with the umlauts and other non standard characters -> when I try to read Nextfiles into the mac. -> -> Does anybody know, if there is a conversion utility, which -> takes care of the european character set and special -> characters? I'm sure that someone will direct you to the MacIntosh < > NeXT conversion application for Rich Text that's posted for ftp (cs.orst.edu, as I recall). Judging by the Mac FONTs I've seen posted around various ftp sites, Apple fonts tend to play rather fast and loose with the encoding vector, whether Type-1 or Type-3.... To illustrate the compatibility, however, here's an apple to show you your Unique HostID (NeXT) As you can see, you DO have an Apple in your NeXT... Seriously, the apple above is embedded in the Symbol font in every NEXTSTEP system... 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From: brian@arl.wustl.edu (Brianosaurus) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXT Mail Mailboxes / elm Date: 16 Dec 1993 16:02:18 GMT Organization: Washington University, St. Louis, MO Message-ID: <2eq0qa$3hh@wuecl.wustl.edu> References: <1993Dec15.181510.9622@csi.uottawa.ca> In article <1993Dec15.181510.9622@csi.uottawa.ca> u610142@csi.uottawa.ca writes: > Does anyone know how to transfer the contents of a NeXT Mail Mailbox into > an elm or mail mailbox, such as is used on our Sun unix systems? (The > reverse transfer would also be useful.) > > Preferably, there would be a program to do the conversion. I am able to > manually forward mail to myself, but this is an ugly and tedious > workaround (and is impossible to do remotely, such as when logged in by > modem and the NeXTStep interface is unavailable). I am not sure the format elm uses, but inside the .mbox directory for each of your NeXTMail mailboxes is a file called "mbox" which is in a format usable by elm and mail. When I dial in to check mail, I usually read the new mail, but keep in the the spool until I get to work the next day, then suck it out with Mail.app. If I want to look through old mail, I use elm, but tell it "no" when it asks if I want to create an elm directory, or whatever. I just do: % cd Mailboxes/Active.mbox % elm -f mbox and then look through the old stuff. It would be nice if there was a text based mailreader that could handle the index files Mail.app uses, though. brian
From: joe@kelley.cc.vt.edu (Joe Kelley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Driver for Fujitsu M3096G scanner Date: 16 Dec 1993 16:05:12 GMT Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia Message-ID: <2eq0vo$3uc@vtserf.cc.vt.edu> Keywords: Fujitsu scanner M3096G Has anyone written or seen a driver for the Fujitsu M3096G scanner? I would like to write a NeXTStep application that uses this scanner. Any info on shareware and/or commercial code would be great. Thanks in advance... Please respond to Joe@Kelley.cc.vt.edu Joe Kelley, Virginia Tech University Computing Center
From: hill@iisnext2.unil.ch (Hill Sean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Could some people NEXTMAIL Doom screen shots. Date: 16 Dec 1993 17:35:28 GMT Organization: University of Lausanne CH (Switzerland) Message-ID: <2eq690$lhm@cisun2000.unil.ch> Maybe a few people could send small (100% mode) screen shots from DOOM to this address. It would be nice to see what I am missing. Thank you. hill@iisnext2.unil.ch
From: ray@mayo.edu (Ray Ghanbari) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Could some people NEXTMAIL Doom screen shots. Date: 16 Dec 1993 18:36:01 GMT Organization: Mayo Foundation Distribution: world Message-ID: <2eq9qh$dla@fermat.mayo.edu> References: <2eq690$lhm@cisun2000.unil.ch> In article <2eq690$lhm@cisun2000.unil.ch> hill@iisnext2.unil.ch (Hill Sean) writes: > Maybe a few people could send small (100% mode) screen shots from > DOOM to this address. It would be nice to see what I am missing. > > Thank you. > hill@iisnext2.unil.ch Well, since I've done this a couple times already, I've downloaded a file called Doom_ScreenShots.tar.Z to cs.orst.edu (in /pub/next/submissions). It is about 175kb and contains 4 images from the game (one of them is a bit nasty, but hey, so is the game) Amazing game, BTW... I can't wait for the finished NS version so we can play across the network. -- Ray Ghanbari Mayo Foundation ray@mayo.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: geoff@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Geoff Kuenning) Subject: Re: ispell 4.0 References: <2em1m5$bvd@fermat.mayo.edu> Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department Message-ID: <1993Dec16.203133.2596@cs.ucla.edu> Date: Thu, 16 Dec 93 20:31:33 GMT In article <2em1m5$bvd@fermat.mayo.edu> moncrief@boole.mayo.edu (Martin Moncrieffe) writes: > Has anyone been successful at istalling ispell 4.0 under NS 3.1? > Thanks. Why would anyone try? Ispell 3.0 installs under NS with absolutely no changes. (Hardly a surprise, since the development is NS3.0.) It has much more functionality than 4.0. And Moritz Willers' very nice interface package allows you to use ispell from any application's spell-check menu entry. -- Geoff Kuenning geoff@maui.cs.ucla.edu geoff@ITcorp.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software From: bounds@gulaam.cen.encompass.com (Frank Bounds) Subject: Stuart for NS/Intel? other VT200/300 emulators for NS/Intel Message-ID: <1993Dec16.214614.22697@glv.uucp> Sender: usenet@glv.uucp Organization: Encompass Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1993 21:46:14 GMT We badly need Stuart/Intel or other Intel VT200/300 emulator for NeXTSTEP Intel boxes. Is there an ftp site for Intel ports? Any help/pointers would be appreciated. (I did send Scott Hess an email but have not received a response...). Thanks in advance! Pointers to freeware/shareware or commercial would be appreciated. --- ___ |___| +----------------||---------------++ | Frank Bounds || || /| bounds@gulaam.cen.encompass.com || | | ENCOMPASS || | | Cary, North Carolina || --| +---------------------------------++ --| |-----------------------/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dal@netcom.com (Dana Andre Letendre) Subject: Re: DialUP-IP on top of leased line successfully and question Message-ID: <dalCI5H86.9FI@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) References: <TJYANG.93Dec15102952@cc.nsysu.edu.tw> Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1993 23:00:06 GMT In your /usr/dialupip/config/slipsrv.access file, change the line inactivity 60 (or whatever) to a very large value. The 60 represents the number of seconds of inactivity before your line goes down. -- --- Dana Letendre | My opinions may or may not reflect those NeXT System Administrator | of my employer. and Sr. Financial Analyst | Bank of America |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dal@netcom.com (Dana Andre Letendre) Subject: Re: Reading NeXTMAIL copied from a SunOS system? Message-ID: <dalCI5HCK.9sn@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) References: <westesCI3svG.6HL@netcom.com> Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1993 23:02:41 GMT If you saved the mail message in a file, all you have to do is to copy the file to /usr/spool/mail/<your username> and then Get New Mail from Mail.app. -- --- Dana Letendre | My opinions may or may not reflect those NeXT System Administrator | of my employer. and Sr. Financial Analyst | Bank of America |
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago, ADN Computer Center Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1993 16:37:53 CST From: <U47167@uicvm.uic.edu> Message-ID: <93350.163753U47167@uicvm.uic.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: TrueType to Postscript font converter Hello everyone, Has anyone converted TrueType fonts from the Mac and used them on the NeXT. There are some cool fonts that I saw on the Mac that I would love to use on the NeXT. Thanks. Dave email: makd@eecs.uic.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: tjyang@cc.nsysu.edu.tw (Tyng-Jing Yang) Subject: Re: DialUP-IP on top of leased line successfully and question In-Reply-To: dal@netcom.com's message of Thu, 16 Dec 1993 23:00:06 GMT Message-ID: <TJYANG.93Dec17093820@cc.nsysu.edu.tw> Sender: news@news.nsysu.edu.tw Organization: NSYSU Computing Center References: <TJYANG.93Dec15102952@cc.nsysu.edu.tw> <dalCI5H86.9FI@netcom.com> Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1993 01:38:19 GMT >In your /usr/dialupip/config/slipsrv.access file, change >the line inactivity 60 (or whatever) to a very large >value. The 60 represents the number of seconds of inactivity >before your line goes down. Oops, I finally track down my problem. the inactivity was set to 999999 by default in /usr/dialupip/config/slipsrv.access and this script file is called by slip-srv.script.tcl. I comment out the call to slipsrv.access. I think that is why my the inactivity time of slip0 was set to 60 seconds. Anyway the line is up adn running well for days now ;-) Thanks to those who hleps Tyng-Jing Yang
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mc2@TorreyPinesCA.ncr.com (Mike Cox) Subject: Re: Help: BugByte crashing after 3.2 install Message-ID: <1993Dec17.011336.1332@TorreyPinesCA.ncr.com> Organization: NCR (Torrey Pines Development Center) Disclaimer: This posting does not necessarily reflect the opinions of NCR. References: <1993Dec13.193215.8745@TorreyPinesCA.ncr.com> Date: Fri, 17 Dec 93 01:13:36 GMT In article <1993Dec13.193215.8745@TorreyPinesCA.ncr.com> mc2@TorreyPinesCA.ncr.com (Mike Cox) writes: >After upgrading to 3.2 BugByte won't run anymore. I get a msg >saying "... exec-file not supported symbol-file not supported ..." >or some such then the app crashes (I'm sure that's not quoted >exactly 'cause it flashes in the lower BugByte text panel right >before the app crashes). I tried re-installing BugByte but the >same thing still happens. Any ideas what I messed up during the >install??? > > --mike > >ps: this is on a black/color workstation with the BugByte that > ran on 3.1 (2.2.1 ???) Turns out the gdbs are different so the version of BugByte I have won't work. If I use the gdb from 3.1 BugByte *appears* to work OK - this will work fine for me until I get in touch with the BugByte developers... --mike -- --Mike \ Bones heal, michael.cox@torreypinesca.ncr.com / and chicks dig scars...
From: keith@starburst.umd.edu (Keith Norris) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Kernel? Date: 17 Dec 1993 03:22:27 GMT Organization: Chesapeake Biological Laboratory Message-ID: <2er8lj$25r@gamera.umd.edu>
From: golden@somerville (Mitchell Golden) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: undeleting files Date: 17 Dec 1993 03:30:47 GMT Organization: Boston University Distribution: world Message-ID: <2er957$sm2@news.bu.edu> Keywords: undelete Does anyone know if it is possible to undelelete files or directories after they've been rm-ed? I would be willing to go through the free sectors of the disk by hand if there is any way to do that. Reply by e-mail to golden@physics.harvard.edu. - Thanks Mitchell Golden
From: disc@vector.intercon.com (David Casti) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Translating Sounds Date: 14 Dec 1993 13:59:26 GMT Organization: InterCon Systems Corporation, Herndon, VA, USA Distribution: all Message-ID: <2ekgru$3ei@news.intercon.com> References: <2e9v57$nl0@news.intercon.com> <CHwwqD.4Cq@muaddib.isar.muc.de> <2ei3n8$p2p@news.intercon.com> David Casti (disc@vector.intercon.com) wrote: : If anyone has sources/binaries that work under 3.1, someone please let me : know. I'll put it up on my anon ftp site here. Hi; I found them on the Mexican NeXT FTP site: roxette.mty.itesm.mx. I have a set of black 3.1 binaries available for anonymous FTP on vector:/pub/next/GISO.tar.Z David.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: gjudd@hackatg.demon.co.uk (Graham Judd) Subject: SpellChecker for the NeXT Message-ID: <1993Dec16.111722.14237@hackatg.demon.co.uk> Sender: gjudd@hackatg.demon.co.uk Organization: Hackwood Service Company Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1993 11:17:22 GMT Does anyone know of any SpellChecker utility for the NeXT, beit commercial or otherwise. Thanks Graham Graham Judd gjudd@hackatg.demon.co.uk [work, NeXTMail OK] Technical Consultant gjudd@siward.demon.co.uk [home, No NeXTMail] Advanced Technology Group Hackwood Service Co +44 71 606 7080 voice 59-67 Gresham St +44 71 606 5113 fax London EC2V 7JA England
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: westes@netcom.com (Will Estes) Subject: WWW Server under NeXT? Message-ID: <westesCI6ELx.CBx@netcom.com> Organization: Mail Group Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1993 11:01:09 GMT Has anyone ported the World Wide Web server code to NeXT? -- Will Estes Internet: westes@netcom.com
From: edmtl@alf.uib.no (Thor Legvold) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Good/Bad points? Upgrading from 3.0 to 3.[12]. Date: 17 Dec 1993 12:34:24 +0100 Organization: University of Bergen Message-ID: <2es5g0$5fo@alf.uib.no> Hi. I have been running 3.0J for the last year, and am quite happy, despite the slowness compared with 3.0E. It's also nice to have Japanese on the Machine without having to use X11 :-) Well, I have bought 3.1E and just received 3.2E, but have hesitated in installing these releases. I have heard both positive and negative things about these releases, and am not sure that the improvement is so clear in this case. So, I'm asking the wisdom of the Net: What do I stand to gain and lose by upgrading from 3.0 to either 3.1 or 3.2? I know I'll lose Japanese environment (I haven't been able to get a hold of a 3.1/3.2 upgrade in Japanese :-(, but what other things have been removed? What has been added? What about bugs? GUI changes? IB changes? etc, etc. I would appreciate greatly any and all comments (e-mail!) regarding this upgrade decision, or any advice netters have regarding the upgrade process. Hardware: NeXT Cube 040 16MB core, HP 1.0 GB disk, NeXT CD ROM. Regards, Thor (hey - congratulate me on getting this far with vi...emacs is having problems at the moment at our site :-) -- Thor Legvold | This is the strangest life NorNeXT User Group leader | I've ever known... University of Bergen | - Jim Morrison, The Doors Norway | edmtl@fiol.uib.no (NeXTmail)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.muc.de (Maximilian Goedel) Subject: Re: Modem software under NS3.1 Message-ID: <CI1FGE.6z7@muaddib.isar.muc.de> Sender: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.muc.de (Maximilian Goedel) Organization: Michael Maximilian Goedel References: <1993Dec13.184114.138436@embl-heidelberg.de> Distribution: all Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1993 18:31:25 GMT In article <1993Dec13.184114.138436@embl-heidelberg.de> writes: > Can anyone suggest good NeXT GUI interface software for modem. Preferable > public domain, but if not shareware. > > David Grindrod > NMR System Manager > EMBL > Heidelberg > Germany > E-mail: grindrod@EMBL-Heidelberg.DE Hi, found a nive app on the Walnut-Creek CD-ROM Nova. But that seems to be only for black hardware. It is called IComm.app. Is a really nice example of good software Nice Greetings from Munich - Germany -- Michael Maximilian Goedel _____________________ e-mail: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.muc.de Address: Gerhardstrasse 33 - 81543 Muenchen Telephone: +49 89 65 29 18
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs From: rashid@degas.northstar.com (Navruze Rashid) Subject: Help! No propertyValue method in DB-Kit Message-ID: <CI1FvI.HAp@northstar.com> Keywords: relationships, propertyValue method Sender: usenet@northstar.com Organization: NorthStar Technologies, inc. Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1993 18:40:29 GMT I am working on a relational database being retrieved from Sybase using relational joins between tables (relationships) to set up master-detail relationships and to retrieve these using DBRecordLists and custom DBFetchGroups. Now, here is the problem. In the DB-Kit documentation (new 3.2) as well as the Master-Detail example in the Concepts section (has anyone looked at this?) the way to retrieve a relationship is roughly as in the code here: ----------------------------------------------------------------- DBRecordList *masterDept = [[DBRecordList alloc] init]; DBRecordList *detailEmp = [[DBRecordList alloc] init]; .. DBValue *toEmpVal = [[DBValue alloc] init]; /* Create objects to store the desired entity and properties. We'll assume that db, a DBDatabase object, exists.*/ id dept = [db entityNamed:"Department"]; /* TABLE */ id toEmp = [dept propertyNamed:"toEmployee"]; /* REL'N */ .. /* Empty the List object and use it to hold the detail properties. */ [detailProps addObject:[[toEmp propertyValue] propertyNamed:"name"]; ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- This method does not exist within the DB-Kit. Headers or documented as a method. The program compiles then crashes when it gets to this statement with a `does not respond to - propertyValue' message. This is mentioned as the way to retrieve the entity referenced by the relationship elsewhere as well - in the DBQualifier docs. GIVE ME A BREAK How can I do this some other way? (get the entity for the relationship destination- I tried [toEmp entity] but that simply returns the base (root) entity). Maybe if NeXT worried more about providing a complete kit, people would start using it. Thanks for any comments or suggestions. Anyone been bitten by this? (Thanks, NeXT) Ruze
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: fms@chemelex .com (Fred Schenkelberg) Subject: I hate to have to ask this Message-ID: <CI2zBy.8C@chemelex.com> Sender: fms@chemelex.com (Fred Schenkelberg) Organization: Research Group in Chemelex Division of Raychem Corporation Distribution: ba,na,usa,world Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1993 14:38:21 GMT Hi, How can I save/configue/modify a basic text based document (like a usenet faq) on a lan from my next machine so that windows apps can open the document in a readable form? The obvious things I've tried, various save formats from WP or from Edit, and various MS-Word (vile system - but THEY all have it) import attempts, all seem to not intrepret the line feed and carriage returns symbols. -- Fred Schenkelberg fms@chemelex.com -- Fred Schenkelberg
Message-ID: <in%@byu.edu> Date: Fri, 17 Dec 93 09:09:10 MST From: pmarc@zapotec.math.byu.edu (Paul Marshall Cardon II) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Graph Theory Software? References: <2e9v3q$8jk@news.hanover.edu> Distribution: world In article <2e9v3q$8jk@news.hanover.edu> binger@hanover.edu (David Binger) writes: > Has someone written a NeXT program that > a user can use to edit representations > of graphs? If so, where can I get it? If you have Mathematica, take a look at the Combinatorica package which comes with 2.x releases. I mention this because the book which goes with the package makes reference to a NeXT application written specifically for graph theory if I remember correctly. If you can't find the book at your library, let me know and I will get the information you need. Here is the header for this package: (* :Title: Combinatorica *) (* :Author: Steven S. Skiena *) (* :Summary: This package contains all the programs from the book, Implementing Discrete Mathematics: Combinatorics and Graph Theory with Mathematica, by Steven S. Skiena, Addison-Wesley Publishing Co., Advanced Book Program, 350 Bridge Parkway, Redwood City CA 94065. ISBN 0-201-50943-1. For ordering information, call 1-800-447-2226. *) (* :Discussion: Any comments, bug reports, or requests to get on the Combinatorica mailing list should be forwarded to: Steven Skiena Department of Computer Science State University of New York Stony Brook, NY 11794 skiena@sbcs.sunysb.edu (516)-632-9026 / 8470 Paul M. Cardon NeXTSTEP and HP System Manager Math Dept. - Brigham Young University ----------------------------------------------- pmarc@zapotec.math.byu.edu or @laplace.math.byu.edu or @alaska.et.byu.edu or @darth.byu.edu or figure out how to get me to settle on just one machine. She was an acrobat's daughter. She swung by her teeth from a noose. But a one matinee -- Her bridgework gave way, And she flew through the air like a goose. - D. Duck in Daffy Doodles
Message-ID: <kn%@byu.edu> Date: Fri, 17 Dec 93 10:07:17 MST From: pmarc@zapotec.math.byu.edu (Paul Marshall Cardon II) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Where can I get DOOM? Subject line says it all.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software From: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) Subject: Raise RDP Exceptiion Message-ID: <1993Dec17.153053.323@weston.com> Sender: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1993 15:30:53 GMT I have been getting this error. Raise RDP exception 6 Code 3 subcode 0 Waiting for RDP connection. This is on a Compaq Prosignia running NS/FIP 3.1 EISA ATI EISA CARD ADAPTEK 1542C PAS 16 SMC Ethernet Card I was wondering if: 1) Anyone knows what this results from? 2) Anyone knows how to fix it ordeal with it? 3) If it occurrs in 3.2? THanks Wes -- Wes Spears <-------> jspears@weston.com (NeXTMail Welcome) The Weston Group (UUCP and SENDMAIL Consultation) 8524 Highway 6 North, 162, Houston, TX 77095
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: manenber@ibis.ccmail.com Subject: GatorFTP(+) authors... Intel doesn't work Content-Type: text/plain Message-ID: <manenber.93Dec1752544@ibis.ccmail.com> Sender: news@ccmail.com Organization: cc:Mail, A Division of Lotus Mime-Version: 1.0 Distribution: na Date: 17 Dec 93 05:25:44 To the authors of GatorFTP or GatorFTP+ : The NS/Intel version of Gator FTP+ crashes everytime you try and transfer and files. Can someone please look at this? If you don't have access to an intel box to test it, I would be willing to help debug it, as I do. Thanks, Mark Anenberg Lotus, ccMail manenber@ibis.ccmail.com
From: bieley@reed.edu (B. Jonathan Bieley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: 40% off CD-RO Birds of Europe Date: 15 Dec 1993 20:11:24 GMT Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR Distribution: global Message-ID: <2enr1c$oo5@scratchy.reed.edu> Birds of Europe: A Complete Encyclopedia The Expert center for Taxonomic Identification (ETI), a non-profit institute partially funded by UNESCO has released its first CD-ROM from its World Biodiversity Database, Birds of Europe. Compiled by ornithologists and produced with the high standards of an academic monograph, Birds of Europe is the definitive source for more than 400 bird species. With this CD-ROM, ETI's Birds of Europe finally fulfills the promise of scientific multimediaÐ a depth of information vividly presented with easy to use graphical software. Birds of Europe contains complete information on 419 bird species including: - specially commissioned full color plates of each species - CD quality bird calls - seasonal distribution maps - taxonomic key and field guide for rapid identification - complete technical description of each species - full color egg painting - glossary of terms - extensive history and discussion of ornithology - a quiz to test your knowledge - and a whole lot more! The perfect gift, both as a reference for the bird watcher and as an educational tool in biology. Birds of Europe will run on Macintosh (System 7 with 4 MB of RAM), Windows (Windows 3.1, 4 MB of RAM, VGA monitor, and a SoundBlaster card) and NeXTStep computers (2.0 and 3.0 Motorola and Intel). Available for only $149 direct from ETI sales of this CD-ROM are used to fund our research into preserving biodiversity. To order: - call ETI at 31-(0)20-525 7239 or fax ETI at 31-(0)20-525 7238 to order by credit card (VISA and MasterCard accepted) - Mail your check or money order to: Expert Center for Taxonomic Identification University of Amsterdam Mauritskade 61 NL 1092AD Amsterdam The Netherlands please include the following for shipping and handling: air: Europe $6, USA & and elsewhere $8 Express Mail: call For more information about ETI and it's role in preserving the Earth's biodiversity contact: Els Kranendonk Expert Center for Taxonomic Identification University of Amsterdam tel: +31-20-525 7239 Mauritskade 61 fax: +31-20-525 7238 -- Jon Bieley Department of Psychology Reed College bieley@reed.edu
From: bieley@reed.edu (B. Jonathan Bieley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: 40% off Birds of Europe CD-ROM Date: 15 Dec 1993 20:28:44 GMT Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR Distribution: global Message-ID: <2ens1s$p7b@scratchy.reed.edu> 40% Birds of Europe CD-ROM for NeXTStep Compiled by ornithologists and produced with the high standards of an academic monograph, Birds of Europe is the definitive source for more than 400 bird species. Birds of Europe finally fulfills the promise of multimediaÐ a depth of information vividly presented with easy to use graphical software. Birds of Europe contains complete information on 419 bird species including: - specially commissioned full color plates of each species - CD quality bird calls - seasonal distribution maps - complete technical description of each species - full color egg painting - glossary of terms - extensive history and discussion of ornithology - taxonomic key for identification - a quiz to test your knowledge - and a whole lot more! The perfect gift, both as a reference for the bird watcher and as an educational tool in biology. Birds of Europe will run on Macintosh (System 7 with 4 MB of RAM), Windows (Windows 3.1, 4 MB of RAM, VGA monitor, and a SoundBlaster card) and NeXTStep computers. This product, which received a 4.5 out of 5 cube rating by NeXTWORLD and a Best of Breed Nomination for Content and Information at NeXTWORLD Expo, is now available for Christmas for only *** $89 *** (plus shipping and handling). Regularly $149 the NeXTStep price is a special offer at *** 40% *** off the regular retail price. All of these sales are direct from ETI and so your purchase helps to fund our biodiversity research. To order by credit card (VISA and MasterCard accepted): - call ETI at 31-(0)20-525 7239 or fax ETI at 31-(0)20-525 7238 Mail your check or money order to: Expert Center for Taxonomic Identification University of Amsterdam Mauritskade 61 NL 1092 AD Amsterdam The Netherlands please include the following for shipping and handling: air: Europe $6, USA & and elsewhere $8 Express Mail: call The Expert Center for Taxonomic Identification is a non-profit institute partially funded by UNESCO and maintains a World Biodiversity Database. For more information about ETI and it's role in preserving the Earth's biodiversity contact us by fax or e-mail -- Jon Bieley Department of Psychology Reed College bieley@reed.edu
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: FrameMaker 'Style sheets' for NeXT style documentation? Date: 17 Dec 1993 15:30:39 -0500 Organization: Digital Fix Development Distribution: world Message-ID: <2et4tf$bap@digifix.digifix.com> Does anyone have any FrameMaker style sheets, so that I can make my documentation look like NeXTs? -- - Scott Anguish - sanguish@digifix.com (NextMail) next-announce@digifix.com (comp.sys.next.announce submissions)
From: kay@nagasena Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: SUMMARY of Re: Which X server to use? Date: 16 Dec 93 20:53:24 Organization: Firestone Chaotic Group Distribution: fj Message-ID: <kay.93Dec16205324@nagasena> References: <CHoAy0.G7D@csn.org> <CI329E.D60@news.iastate.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain I will order coXist, because of the interceptor Library --- Kay Schulz 08142/58727 kay@nagasena.muc.de NeXTmail accepted
From: awhite@plush.sas.upenn.edu (Andrew White) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: PGP for NEXTSTEP Date: 17 Dec 1993 21:59:00 GMT Organization: Social Science Computing, Univ. of Pennsylvania Message-ID: <2eta34$hvr@netnews.upenn.edu> References: <CHp85G.1Fv@alembicla.com> <1993Dec9.194614.20354@midway.uchicago.edu> In article <1993Dec9.194614.20354@midway.uchicago.edu> chwe@chwe1.spc.uchicago.edu (Michael Suk-Young Chwe) writes: >> NXPGP is a NeXTSTEP interface to Phillip Zimmerman's pgp >> encryption package. NXPGP uses the services menu to allow you to >> >> NXPGP1.0.1 is available on one of the archives. > >I couldn't find this on any of the archives, or through Archie. >Does anyone know where this is available? I found it on cs.orst.edu -- check again. However, NS/intel users: NXPGP does not work. I compiled the latest version of pgp (2.3a, I believe) without too many problems, but when I followed the installation instructions for NXPGP, I had problems. If anyone has it working on NS/i 3.2, I'd like to hear from you. The pgp stuff shows up in the Services menu, but when you try and _use_ any of these services (heaven forbid!), you get 20 seconds of colorspin and an error message (Unable to provide service, or somesuch). So, I won't be sending my money in for this donate-ware. -- Andrew White, Systems Manager : 351 McNeil Building Social Science Computing : Univ. of Pennsylvania AWhite@McNeil.sas.upenn.edu : (215) 898-2451
From: griffid@flash_heart (Dave Griffiths) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXT Mail Mailboxes / elm Date: 17 Dec 1993 12:37:16 GMT Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation, High Timber St, London, UK Message-ID: <2es95t$ek5@gpo.gb.swissbank.com> References: <2eq0qa$3hh@wuecl.wustl.edu> In article <2eq0qa$3hh@wuecl.wustl.edu> brian@arl.wustl.edu (Brianosaurus) writes: > It would be nice if there was a text based mailreader that could handle the > index files Mail.app uses, though. I wonder why NeXTMail uses this peculiar mbox directory structure? The only thing you gain is a slight performance improvement when opening a mbox directory. Instead of creating TOC's and so on, NeXTMail could have used a single mbox file like all the other Unix mailers (the attachment directories could have been created on the fly in /tmp only when that message is displayed). It would have made life simpler... Dave Griffiths
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Faster NS3.2 Screen Access Message-ID: <1993Dec15.163715.7816@nic.csu.net> From: vqueved@nssnext.calstatela.edu (Victor Quevedo) Date: 15 Dec 93 16:37:12 PST Distribution: comp.sys.next.programmer Does anyone have any information about the new NS3.2 functions that allow programs like SoftPC faster screen access? Is there anything distributed with the 3.2 Developers or any other sources. -Victor Q.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: manenber@ibis.ccmail.com Subject: X for NS/Intel ? Content-Type: text/plain Message-ID: <manenber.93Dec17154043@ibis.ccmail.com> Sender: news@ccmail.com Organization: cc:Mail, A Division of Lotus Mime-Version: 1.0 Distribution: na Date: 17 Dec 93 15:40:43 Is there a public domain or shareware version of X11 for Nextstep/Intel ? Thanks, Mark Anenberg
From: strobel@dirac.phys.washington.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Reading NeXTMAIL copied from a SunOS system? Date: 18 Dec 93 00:43:13 GMT Organization: University of Washington Distribution: na Message-ID: <strobel.756175393@dirac> References: <westesCI3svG.6HL@netcom.com> <dalCI5HCK.9sn@netcom.com> dal@netcom.com (Dana Andre Letendre) writes: >If you saved the mail message in a file, all you have to do is >to copy the file to /usr/spool/mail/<your username> and then >Get New Mail from Mail.app. or simply save the message in any ol' text file and at a shell prompt, mail yourself the message and then read it with Mail.app. Either way works fine. Nick strobel@dirac.phys.washington.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: me@helser18.res.iastate.edu (My Account) Subject: could someone mail me SystemWorks for 3.1 (black) Message-ID: <CI7GDB.9JE@news.iastate.edu> Sender: news@news.iastate.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1993 00:36:47 GMT Subject says it all. -- *******************IOWA***STATE***UNIVERSITY******************** * Brian Morrison sela@iastate.edu (NeXT Mail welcome!) * * --------------------------------------------------------- * * He who throws mud loses ground. * ****************************************************************
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: nico@imani.cam.org (Nicolas Dore) Subject: Re: Screensaver Message-ID: <1993Dec15.225425.2770@imani.cam.org> Sender: nico@imani.cam.org References: <1993Dec15.165320.2423@imani.cam.org> Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1993 22:54:25 GMT In article <1993Dec15.165320.2423@imani.cam.org> nico@imani.cam.org (Nicolas Dore) writes: [crunch, crunch] > > dwrite loginwindow TimeToDim 2040 > > Is this for pre-3.1 or post? I got 3.2, and TimeToIdle doesn't do nothin'! > > Ciao Well, to contradict myself, it does, but the delay is in mintues, it seems... Anyway. Ciao > > Philippe Jouve | Apple's Newton MessagePad > -- > Nicolas Dore nico@imani.cam.org > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > "Le calembour est la fiente du mot qui vole." < > > Victor Hugo < -- Nicolas Dore nico@imani.cam.org - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > "Le calembour est la fiente du mot qui vole." < > Victor Hugo <
From: shim@grasp.insa-lyon.fr (Kwang-Bo Shim) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Send out NeXTMail with modem logging Date: 17 Dec 1993 19:08:36 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <199312180108.CAA19427@grasp.insa-lyon.fr> Does anyone know how to send out the NeXTMail through simple modem connection (I used to log in by kermit)? I can transfer&read NeXTMail(NeXT attaching) from elm/RS6000 into my NeXT but no reverse. Merci, JOYEUX NOEL!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: byer@mv.us.adobe.com (Scott Byer) Subject: Re: Faster NS3.2 Screen Access In-Reply-To: vqueved@nssnext.calstatela.edu's message of 15 Dec 93 16:37:12 PST Message-ID: <BYER.93Dec17090744@birch.mv.us.adobe.com> Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS) Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View, CA References: <1993Dec15.163715.7816@nic.csu.net> Distribution: comp.sys.next.programmer Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1993 17:07:44 GMT In article <1993Dec15.163715.7816@nic.csu.net> vqueved@nssnext.calstatela.edu (Victor Quevedo) writes: > Does anyone have any information about the new NS3.2 functions > that allow programs like SoftPC faster screen access? Is there > anything distributed with the 3.2 Developers or any other > sources. Hmm, I don't think you're going to find documentation anywhere. It takes a lot of committment to punch a hole properly, and so I don't think NeXT will just give out that API. Note that there are very few legitimate reasons for wanting to punch a hole, and speed isn't really one of them. Compositing is plenty fast - it's a straight blit. SoftPC needs to punch a hole mostly because it's an emulation, and Windows programs often draw directly to the screen, and so you hit the update problem: blitting from offscreen memory is pure overhead, and the more "live" you want the screen, the more time you "waste" blitting. For a program that does animation, you're not likely to get any faster than compositing on your own. -- Scott Byer NeXTMail: byer@mv.us.adobe.com Adobe Systems Incorporated These are *my* opinions, and 1585 Charleston Road, P.O. Box 7900 do not necessarily reflect Mountain View, CA 94039-7900 the opinions of my employer. ---------------------------------------------------------------------
From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: WhiteLight Systems' Mission Critical Solitaire 1.0 Date: 18 Dec 93 02:59:27 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <jeffo.756183567@uiuc.edu> References: <2et3qc$b3m@digifix.digifix.com> WhiteLight Systems announces: >[Mission Critical Solitare 1.0] is available from WhiteLight Systems >at the above address. Single copy pricing is $35 prepaid, plus $12 >shipping & handling and sales tax where applicable. There is no >shipping & handling charge for orders sent by e-mail. Is this serious? $35 for a solitare game? Perhaps WhiteLight systems should become more familiar with the solitare games freely available for NS (one with source code), or the gobs of PD and shareware solitares available for command-line play on Unix machines or all the other windowing environments such as Mac and X). -- J.B. Nicholson-Owens (*NO* NeXTmail please)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: fleminmk@fe808.cc.purdue.edu (Michael K Fleming) Subject: Re: Doom NeXT vs. Doom DOS Message-ID: <fleminmk.756188336@fe808.cc.purdue.edu> Sender: news@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (USENET News) Organization: Purdue University References: <fleminmk.756011731@fe808.cc.purdue.edu> <rorCI0yzA.454@netcom.com> <CI2MMq.6wp@cs.utwente.nl> <CI475t.7s5@freenet.carleton.ca> Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1993 04:18:56 GMT ak866@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Steven Besler) writes: >>Actually, Wolf3D had an easter-egg that said something about drawing >>directly to the screen on a Color NeXTstation. >Cool, please tell us how to get it to do that, so I can amaze and >disgrace all the DOS weenies I know! >Steve. I actually don't remember AT ALL how to trigger this one... Anyone remember? mike
From: rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us (Bob Peirce #305) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Why not two (or four) docks? Message-ID: <1993Dec17.155645.10180@investor.pgh.pa.us> Date: 17 Dec 93 15:56:45 GMT References: <2do5g3$ner@gaia.ucs.orst.edu> <2do7cc$bv2@news.u.washington.edu> Organization: Cookson, Peirce & Co., Pittsburgh, PA In article <2do7cc$bv2@news.u.washington.edu> wrb@biostr.washington.edu (William Barker) writes: > >Or check out Engage! Desktop from Millennium Software. Does most of what >everyone has been talking about. Nice product...can't live without it >now. Contact info@millennium.com for more info. > >Just another satisfied customer of Jason and the Gang. > I'll second that. I probably only use 25% of what E!D is capable of but I can't do without it now. -- Bob Peirce, Pittsburgh, PA rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us 412-471-5320 venetia@investor.pgh.pa.us [NeXT Mail] !uunet.uu.net!pitt!investor!rbp [UUCP]
From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Doom NeXT vs. Doom DOS Date: 18 Dec 1993 17:23:52 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <2eveb8$4t@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <fleminmk.756011731@fe808.cc.purdue.edu> <rorCI0yzA.454@netcom.com> <CI2MMq.6wp@cs.utwente.nl> <CI475t.7s5@freenet.carleton.ca> <fleminmk.756188336@fe808.cc.purdue.edu> fleminmk@fe808.cc.purdue.edu (Michael K Fleming) writes: >ak866@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Steven Besler) writes: >>>Actually, Wolf3D had an easter-egg that said something about drawing >>>directly to the screen on a Color NeXTstation. >>Cool, please tell us how to get it to do that, so I can amaze and >>disgrace all the DOS weenies I know! >>Steve. >I actually don't remember AT ALL how to trigger this one... Anyone remember? I wouldn't consider this an "easter-egg"... it was at the end of the credits. ("Read this!" from the opening menu) -- David Lemson (217) 244-1205 University of Illinois Computing & Comm Services Office System Administrator Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu UUCP :...!uiucuxc!uiucux1!lemson NeXTMail & MIME accepted BITNET : LEMSON@UIUCVMD
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software From: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) Subject: Re: Raise RDP Exceptiion Message-ID: <1993Dec18.220545.3985@weston.com> Sender: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) References: <1993Dec17.153053.323@weston.com> Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1993 22:05:45 GMT In article <1993Dec17.153053.323@weston.com> jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) writes: > I have been getting this error. > > Raise RDP exception 6 Code 3 subcode 0 > Waiting for RDP connection. > > This is on a Compaq Prosignia running NS/FIP 3.1 > EISA > ATI EISA CARD > ADAPTEK 1542C > PAS 16 > SMC Ethernet Card > > I was wondering if: > 1) Anyone knows what this results from? > 2) Anyone knows how to fix it ordeal with it? > 3) If it occurrs in 3.2? > This condition actually occurs after the computer has been running for many hours. Sorry for this not being included. Thanks Wes -- Wes Spears <-------> jspears@weston.com (NeXTMail Welcome) The Weston Group (UUCP and SENDMAIL Consultation) 8524 Highway 6 North, 162, Houston, TX 77095
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: manroe@manki.toppoint.de(Manfred Roehr) Subject: DOOM - where to get? Message-ID: <CI9zAo.Lo@manki.toppoint.de> Sender: manroe@manki.toppoint.de (Manfred Roehr) References: <gh3TB7C00iV5Q45ght@andrew.cmu.edu> Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1993 09:20:47 GMT Hello, now I ve read so much about DOOM, now I also want to get and try it! Is there anybody who can tell me where? Thanks for it. Manfred -- *************************************************************** * Manfred Roehr e-mail: manroe@toppoint.de * * Elisabethstrasse 88 fax: +49 431 733 483 * * 24143 Kiel phone: +49 431 73 45 39 * * Germany NeXT-mail welcome * ***************************************************************
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Getting around NSFIP serial Date: 18 Dec 1993 18:19:59 +0100 Organization: Palumbian Research Labs Message-ID: <2eve3v$350@marsu.tynet.sub.org> References: <9312140104.AA26690@relay2.geis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit erictremblay@genie.geis.com writes: >john@wpa.com (John Bartley) >Well, I don't think so. I have 3.2 running UUCP with a friend at 9600 bauds > and it works great. I'll be looking at going a little faster this > week when I'll try and use my Supra 14,400 at it's full capacity buy > changing the UUCP configuration. What's great about 9600 Baud? ZyXELs use 19200, so I want at least my machine to work reliably at 19200 DTE speed. >One last note. UUCP did not work with 3.1 (serial port bug) but it works > great with 3.2 and that's an outgoing and incoming UUCP link. uucp _did_ work with the updated serial driver for 3.1. And IMHO, this driver was better than the 3.2 one. It works great? Shall I show you the 70-80 serial transmission errors logged in /usr/adm/messages each poll? The serial driver is the only thing in NS 3.2 that really makes me angry. The rest is charming... -- Marsu: "Es gibt tatsaechlich Leute, die ohne Computer gluecklich und zufrieden leben." -- Frankie: "Ach was, die emulieren das doch nur!" ----- Markus Wenzel System administration, Consulting, Networking mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org on... NeXTSTEP / Unix / Novell / Windows NT IRC: Marsu Intel aside.
From: erictremblay@genie.geis.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Pictures in NeXTMail Date: 19 Dec 1993 09:42:40 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9312191542.AA27566@relay2.geis.com> Hello, I have my NeXT setup to do UUCP with a friends NeXT computer so that we can exchange NeXTMail. While I know how to setup the pictures for my internal accounts I cannot setup pictures so that when he sends me mail that I see his picture in the NeXTMail app. His computer is called blanche and when I send him mail I send it to rene@blanche.uucp I tried a couple of names with no luck. Someone know the trick? Eric "E.T."
From: dan@quiensabe.az.stratus.com (Dan Danz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Plagued by daemon! (TickleServices) Date: 19 Dec 1993 15:55:40 GMT Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA Message-ID: <2f1ths$jvl@transfer.stratus.com> References: <2enf1e$1u5@crcnis1.unl.edu> Dan Scott writes > The problem is that now when I login I get an error beep (well, actually > the rooster crows...) When I check the console I find that it is > complaining about not being able to launch a TickleServices daemon. So how > can I make it stop trying to launch this daemon (which no longer exists)? dread Workspace LaunchPaths figure out what you need to keep, but get rid of the TickleServices daemon dwrite Workspace LaunchPaths "what you need to keep" If you don't have anything else in the LaunchPaths, then dremove Workspace Launchpaths -- L. W. "Dan" Danz (WA5SKM) VOS Mail: Dan_Danz@vos.stratus.com Sr Consulting Software SE NeXT Mail: dan@az.stratus.com Customer Assistance Center Voice Mail/Pager: (602) 852-3107 Telecommunications Division Customer Service: (800) 828-8513 Stratus Computer, Inc. 4455 E. Camelback #115-A, Phoenix AZ 85018
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: X-window Mumail program Message-ID: <1993Dec19.171154.143370@embl-heidelberg.de> From: grindrod@eagle.NMR.EMBL-Heidelberg.DE (David Grindrod) Date: 19 Dec 93 17:11:54 +0100 Distribution: world Organization: European Molecular Biology Laboratory Has anyone compiled the Mumail prgram under X with the 3D graphics option. I would like to have this program for people who use the NeXT for mail but who do not have direct access to the NeXT Mail.app. If anyone has compiled the program could they possible tell me the changes I have to make inorder to get it to compile. Thanks in advance. Dave -- David Grindrod NMR System Manager EMBL, Heidelberg. Email: grindrod@EMBL-Heidelberg.DE
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Michael_Pizolato@afs.com (Michael Pizolato) Subject: Re: what word processors are left? Message-ID: <1993Dec17.153312.297@afs.com> Sender: Michael_Pizolato@afs.com References: <pvinson.93Dec15141847@gryphon> Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1993 15:33:12 GMT pvinson@gryphon.laafb.af.mil writes >Michael_Pizolato writes >>That's correct. WriteUp V1.0 will ship on 12/31 (of _this_ year >>;-), but will not have the WordPerfect capability. We will release >>a WordPerfect DIB (Document Interchange Bundle) in the first >>quarter, which will install into the existing WriteUp V1.0 and >>will allow read/write of WP-format documents. A DIB for MS-Word >>will follow soon after, and others will come later as demand >>dictates. > >Andrew, will WU with the DIBs installed be settable to use a given >format as its "native" format? Ie, I am the network manager for >a medium-size network using Mac and Windows. To give my (rather >feeble) Windoze users NS, I need solutions to read/write MS Office >formats (the standard for the rest of the Air Force base I work >on) . In addition, my users are probably not going to remember to >"Save As...MS Word" when they save files. Since we do heavy file >sharing, other users are going to try and l oad these files, and >fail, if the user has forgotten to save in Word format. So I would >like, as a network manager, the ability to "set" WU to use a given >format automagically. > >Will these be possible under WU? PLEASE say yes. I don't know who you mean by "Andrew" - there's no Andrew here at AFS. But I can answer your question with a yes. You will be able to choose in WriteUp's preferences what your preferred file save format is. When you save an untitled file, you will get a save panel with a popup button at the bottom, with the popup preset to your preferences choice. You will, of course, be able to choose a different format via the popup, but if you just want your preference setting you won't have to do anything. This gets a little complicated for files that already exist. Note that DIBs for reading any file format we support will be available at no charge to registered WriteUp users. DIBs for writing will be available at additional cost. Therefore, it's possible that you will be able to read a file in, say, WordPerfect format but you will not be able to write that format because you have not purchased the WordPerfect writing DIB. In that case you would not be able to choose WordPerfect as the file save format in either preferences or the save panel. In such a case, when you try to save the file WriteUp will warn you with an alert panel that it is going to save the file in a format different from that in which it was read. WriteUp will attempt to change or add an appropriate file extension to the file so that the original will not be replaced, unless you force a replacement by typing an explicit name in the save panel. In that case, another alert panel will warn you of the replacement before saving the file. The goal of all this is maximum safety, so files don't get overwritten unless you want them to. I hope this clears things up a bit. Thanx, Michael -- Michael_Pizolato@afs.com "Schopenhauer's not as optimistic as Nietzsche, NeXTMail accepted but he makes up for it by being less cheerful than Kierkegaard." - Kim Pizolato
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Michael_Pizolato@afs.com (Michael Pizolato) Subject: Re: what word processors are left? Message-ID: <1993Dec17.154153.389@afs.com> Sender: Michael_Pizolato@afs.com References: <1993Dec17.153312.297@afs.com> Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1993 15:41:53 GMT Michael Pizolato (that's me) writes [snip of description of WriteUp's technique for saving to different file formats...] On a somewhat related topic: How would everyone like it if you could select a keyboard "personality" for WriteUp? For example, if you're an MS-Word user, and you're used to the MS-Word function key layout, you'd be able to set WriteUp to look like MS-Word. Think you might like that? Maybe, just maybe, we'll do something like that (hint, hint). ;-) Thanx, Michael -- Michael_Pizolato@afs.com "Schopenhauer's not as optimistic as Nietzsche, NeXTMail accepted but he makes up for it by being less cheerful than Kierkegaard." - Kim Pizolato
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: steve@ion.rice.edu (Steve Ludtke) Subject: ANNOUNCING: GopherSpace 1.0 PRE-ALPHA Message-ID: <CI7Bo5.BFK@rice.edu> Keywords: gopher, client, virtual reality Sender: news@rice.edu (News) Organization: Rice University Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1993 22:55:17 GMT ANNOUNCING GopherSpace, Pre-Alpha release GopherSpace is a 3d, virtual reality (sort of) Gopher+ client. It is the successor to my original attempt at this sort of thing, Gopher in a Forest. Currently GopherSpace will run only on machines running NeXTStep 3.0 or above (PCs or NeXTs). I'm thinking about trying to write an X11 version myself, but don't have the resources to attempt PC or Mac versions at the moment. Full source will be available with the final 1.0 release,so if anyone is interested in writing a PC or a Mac port I'd be more than willing to collaborate with them. As I said, this is a pre-alpha release. That is, the program is still incomplete and may be a bit buggy. I think I've got most of the bugs out of the current version, so it's primarily "pre-alpha" because it's not yet as I envisioned it. I'm releasing it now to gather suggestions for improvements, find bugs, etc .... I'd rather get a good suggestion now, while it's still easy to implement than later when things are more rigid. If you'd like to play with it, you can ftp the FAT binaries from ion.rice.edu. Please don't distribute this version to other ftp sites. I'll distribute it more widely (with source) in the final release version. I'd appreciate an sort of suggestion, no matter how crazy it might seem. Enjoy... -------------------------------- Steve Ludtke steve@ion.rice.edu ludtke@physics.rice.edu stevel@alumni.caltech.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: arrouye@petole.imag.fr (Yves Arrouye) Subject: Re: FrameMaker 'Style sheets' for NeXT style documentation? In-Reply-To: sanguish@digifix.com's message of 17 Dec 1993 15:30:39 -0500 Message-ID: <ARROUYE.93Dec19183801@petole.imag.fr> Sender: news@imag.fr Organization: LGI-IMAG, Grenoble, France References: <2et4tf$bap@digifix.digifix.com> Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1993 17:38:01 GMT In article <2et4tf$bap@digifix.digifix.com> sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) writes: Does anyone have any FrameMaker style sheets, so that I can make my documentation look like NeXTs? I would be interested in the same thing for LaTeX... (even if the fonts are not the right ones, because I can change that easily.) Thanks, Yves. -- Advocates for the C++ school claim that a well designed Yves Arrouye program does not need the extra flexibility (a lie), Yves.Arrouye@imag.fr while advocates for the Objective-C school claim that (33) 76 57 48 64 the errors are no problem in practice (another lie). NeXT Mail
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: manroe@manki.toppoint.de(Manfred Roehr) Subject: Re: DOOM - where to get? Message-ID: <CIA2G4.oK@manki.toppoint.de> Sender: manroe@manki.toppoint.de (Manfred Roehr) References: <CI9zAo.Lo@manki.toppoint.de> Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1993 10:28:51 GMT In article <CI9zAo.Lo@manki.toppoint.de> manroe@manki.toppoint.de(Manfred Roehr) writes: > Hello, > > now I ve read so much about DOOM, now I also want to get and try it! > Is there anybody who can tell me where? > Thanks for it. > > Manfred For black hardware please! *************************************************************** * Manfred Roehr e-mail: manroe@toppoint.de * * Elisabethstrasse 88 fax: +49 431 733 483 * * 24143 Kiel phone: +49 431 73 45 39 * * Germany NeXT-mail welcome * *************************************************************** -- *************************************************************** * Manfred Roehr e-mail: manroe@toppoint.de * * Elisabethstrasse 88 fax: +49 431 733 483 * * 24143 Kiel phone: +49 431 73 45 39 * * Germany NeXT-mail welcome * ***************************************************************
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Folke Edman) Subject: Re: NeXT Mail Mailboxes / elm In-Reply-To: griffid@flash_heart's message of 17 Dec 1993 12:37:16 GMT Message-ID: <CEDMAN.93Dec18130247@phoenix.Princeton.EDU> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University References: <2eq0qa$3hh@wuecl.wustl.edu> <2es95t$ek5@gpo.gb.swissbank.com> Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1993 18:02:47 GMT In article <2es95t$ek5@gpo.gb.swissbank.com> griffid@flash_heart (Dave Griffiths) writes: In article <2eq0qa$3hh@wuecl.wustl.edu> brian@arl.wustl.edu (Brianosaurus) writes: > It would be nice if there was a text based mailreader that could handle the > index files Mail.app uses, though. I wonder why NeXTMail uses this peculiar mbox directory structure? The only thing you gain is a slight performance improvement when opening a mbox directory. Instead of creating TOC's and so on, NeXTMail could have used a single mbox file like all the other Unix mailers (the attachment directories could have been created on the fly in /tmp only when that message is displayed). It would have made life simpler... Well, maybe NeXTmail should be kept in uuencoded format in the mbox file. For most of us occassional users that would be an acceptable solution considering that most of the truly large NeXTmail letters are software distributions which very likely will only be unpacked once and then deleted in any case. However, the TOC files are a different matter. The separate file for each letter format used e.g. by mh becomes impossibly slow when there are more than a dozen or two letters in a mailbox. A single mbox files which is rescanned every single time a mailbox is opened may be acceptable for up to a few hundred letters. However, if you like me frequently use mailboxes with several thousands of letters and tens of megabytes in size, you'll be grateful for the table of contents file every single time you start your mailer. That Mail.app performs well even under such circumstances is one of the reasons that I stayed with it after trying just about every other mailer in existance. Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Folke Edman) Subject: Re: Reading NeXTMAIL copied from a SunOS system? In-Reply-To: strobel@dirac.phys.washington.edu's message of 18 Dec 93 00:43:13 GMT Message-ID: <CEDMAN.93Dec18130540@phoenix.Princeton.EDU> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University References: <westesCI3svG.6HL@netcom.com> <dalCI5HCK.9sn@netcom.com> <strobel.756175393@dirac> Distribution: na Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1993 18:05:40 GMT In article <strobel.756175393@dirac> strobel@dirac.phys.washington.edu writes: dal@netcom.com (Dana Andre Letendre) writes: >If you saved the mail message in a file, all you have to do is >to copy the file to /usr/spool/mail/<your username> and then >Get New Mail from Mail.app. or simply save the message in any ol' text file and at a shell prompt, mail yourself the message and then read it with Mail.app. Either way works fine. Really ? Is a uuencoded text enough to trigger recognition of NeXTmail ? I don't have access to my NeXT, but I think not. Without the next attachment header, you'll just see a uuencoded file. Carl Edman
From: silbar@cantina.lanl.gov (Dick Silbar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Raise RDP Exception Date: 18 Dec 1993 12:25:00 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9312181825.AA08226@cantina.lanl.gov> Wes Spears writes: I have been getting this error. Raise RDP exception 6 Code 3 subcode 0 Waiting for RDP connection. This is on a Compaq Prosignia running NS/FIP 3.1 EISA ATI EISA CARD ADAPTEK 1542C PAS 16 SMC Ethernet Card I was wondering if: 1) Anyone knows what this results from? 2) Anyone knows how to fix it or deal with it? 3) If it occurs in 3.2? Well, I get them too, but on an Epson NX. It is called a "remote debug something-or-other" and are hooks put them by the NeXT engineers to get debug information out a serial port (I am told). I guess they need that, 'cause I can never find any description of what's going on when these things occur in the /private/adm/messages. Wes didn't mention whether he gets them during the boot process or while up and running. I got them at both times (in 3.1), but the 6,3,0 error appeared, as I recall, only during bootup. (And sometimes did NOT require a long fsck to proceed.) I have not found that "Type 'C' to continue" ever allows me to continue from this condition; it just gives me another RDP exception. Ditto from the little alert panel, which says "Type 'r' to restart". Unfortunately, the only way _I_ know how to deal with this problem is to power off/power on (at the switch!). This almost always leads to a long fsck, as I implied, and I fear that someday the disk will _not_ be repaired. When I spoke to a NeXT engineer about this, he didn't have anything better to suggest about how to fix it or deal with it, other than by going to 3.2. He implied (I think) that there was a timing problem with the SCSI disk controller that was fixed in 3.2. So, that was why I was avid to get 3.2 installed as soon as I could. Another unfortunately: I _may_ have also seen an RDP exception on this Epson NX running 3.2 (but, at the most, only one since Dec. 3, when I upgraded). The reason I say "may" is that I can't be sure; the symptom was a frozen screen when I came back in the morning. The machine was running the "stars" screensaver during the night, so I couldn't see any error/alert panel saying what happened. Dick Silbar WhistleSoft, Inc.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: gary@uaneuro.uah.ualberta.ca (Gary Ritchie) Subject: Re: WhiteLight Systems' Mission Critical Solitaire 1.0 Message-ID: <1993Dec18.200205.15565@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada References: <jeffo.756183567@uiuc.edu> Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1993 20:02:05 GMT In article <jeffo.756183567@uiuc.edu> jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) writes: > WhiteLight Systems announces: > > Is this serious? $35 for a solitare game? Perhaps WhiteLight systems > should become more familiar with the solitare games freely available > for NS (one with source code), or the gobs of PD and shareware > solitares available for command-line play on Unix machines or all the > other windowing environments such as Mac and X). > We've made a *lot* of changes to the free solitaire game including improved graphics, preferences, and dynamically loadable games (a-la-BackSpace). This will be released early in the new year ***FOR FREE*** (by mid-January, or I'll, uh, well, it's free, sue me). -- Gary Ritchie : NeXT Programmer Department of Medicine (Neurology) : University of Alberta Hospital gary@uaneuro.uah.ualberta.ca : NEXTMAIL Welcome (403) 492-8648
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: WhiteLight Systems' Mission Critical Solitaire 1.0 Date: 18 Dec 1993 23:49:09 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <2f04tl$i04@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <jeffo.756183567@uiuc.edu> jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) writes: > WhiteLight Systems announces: > > >[Mission Critical Solitare 1.0] is available from WhiteLight Systems > >at the above address. Single copy pricing is $35 prepaid, plus $12 > >shipping & handling and sales tax where applicable. > > Is this serious? $35 for a solitare game? Perhaps WhiteLight systems > should become more familiar with the solitare games freely available > for NS (one with source code), The version of solitaire that I've found for NeXTSTEP, while free, performs quite poorly. It is no substitute for the Solitaire games on the Mac, or the free one that comes with Windows. > or the gobs of PD and shareware solitares available for command-line > play on Unix machines or all the other windowing environments such > as Mac and X). Command-line play? Oh joy, oh fun, oh rapture. I bought some of the shareware versions for the Mac, and it seems to me that they weren't all that much cheaper than $35. If they've done a *good* job with Solitaire, then I might spend $35 on it. The big question (for me) is: have they done a good job at it? I don't have it, so I don't know. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: u610142@csi.uottawa.ca (Wratko Hlavina) Subject: Re: NeXT Mail Mailboxes / elm Message-ID: <1993Dec18.235515.28305@csi.uottawa.ca> Sender: news@csi.uottawa.ca Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, University of Ottawa References: <2eq0qa$3hh@wuecl.wustl.edu> <2es95t$ek5@gpo.gb.swissbank.com> <CEDMAN.93Dec18130247@phoenix.princeton.edu> Date: Sat, 18 Dec 93 23:55:15 GMT My appreciation to all the responses I have received to my original post about NeXT Mailboxes vs. elm mailboxes. I now have one more question: is there any way to get seamless integration of address aliases between NeXTMail and elm? (Thanks in advance for all responses.) ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// / Wratko "The Rat Man" Hlavina 4th year Honours Math-Science student / / University of Ottawa, Canada / /\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\/ / Addresses... Unix (NeXT/Sun): u610142@csi.uottawa.ca (Preferred) / / CMS/VMS Mainframe: 610142@acadvm1.uottawa.ca / ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// -- ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// / Wratko "The Rat Man" Hlavina 4th year Honours Math-Science student / / University of Ottawa, Canada /
From: haugelan+@pitt.edu (John C Haugeland) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: what word processors are left? Message-ID: <10349@blue.cis.pitt.edu> Date: 20 Dec 93 00:32:22 GMT References: <pvinson.93Dec15141847@gryphon> <1993Dec17.153312.297@afs.com> Sender: news+@pitt.edu Organization: University of Pittsburgh Michael_Pizolato writes >That's correct. WriteUp V1.0 will ship on 12/31 (of _this_ year >;-), but will not have the WordPerfect capability. We will release >a WordPerfect DIB (Document Interchange Bundle) in the first >quarter, which will install into the existing WriteUp V1.0 and >will allow read/write of WP-format documents. A DIB for MS-Word >will follow soon after, and others will come later as demand >dictates. Here's a related question: Will the required behavior/format/APIs (whichever is relevant) for these DIBs be published? I can think of two reasons why that might be useful. (1) People might want to hack their own converters between WriteUp and other formats not likely to be supported by AFS. I, for instance, have some "legacy" files (my 1985 book) written on a PC with FrameWork (not to be confused with FrameMaker); what's more, the format for FrameWork files is pretty simple, it's documented, and I have those documents -- so I might be tempted. Surely there will be others in similar predicaments. (2) The same interface might make WriteUp usable as a kind of report- generator-engine for other applications, whether commercial, freeware, or just local and ad hoc. For instance, the database program VarioData will output records in a format that FrameMaker can import and make pretty. (Basically, VarioData supplies paragraph tags keyed to the fields in the database, so that FrameMaker can automatically supply corresponding style sheets for pretty printouts.) Why not make WriteUp (or PasteUp, or both) the default choice for such applications, by making it convenient and inviting? And, besides, what's the point of keeping it secret? John Haugeland haugelan+@pitt.edu (Proud new owner of PasteUp, eagerly awaiting WriteUp!)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: westes@netcom.com (Will Estes) Subject: Best GIF image viewer? Message-ID: <westes.10.0001075A@netcom.com> Sender: netnews@netcom.com (USENET Administration) Organization: U.S. Computer Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1993 09:01:43 GMT What is the best general-purpose image viewer for NeXT? -- Thanks, Will Estes Internet: westes@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: chuck@benatong.com (Charles G. Bennett) Subject: Re: PGP for NEXTSTEP Message-ID: <CI8uK5.H23@benatong.com> Sender: usenet@benatong.com Organization: BenaTong References: <2eta34$hvr@netnews.upenn.edu> Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1993 18:40:52 GMT In article <2eta34$hvr@netnews.upenn.edu> awhite@plush.sas.upenn.edu (Andrew White) writes: [munch] > > However, NS/intel users: NXPGP does not work. I compiled the > latest version of pgp (2.3a, I believe) without too many problems, > but when I followed the installation instructions for > NXPGP, I had problems. If anyone has it working on NS/i 3.2, > I'd like to hear from you. > > The pgp stuff shows up in the Services menu, but when you try > and _use_ any of these services (heaven forbid!), you get > 20 seconds of colorspin and an error message (Unable to > provide service, or somesuch). > > So, I won't be sending my money in for this donate-ware. We ran into the same problem. I didn't bother to find out why but you HAVE to compile it in the DEBUG mode xxx.debug and rename it to xxx.app BTW: I think that it says to do this somewhere in the instructions but, like most, it never occured to me that I HAD to do it. Chuck > -- > Andrew White, Systems Manager : 351 McNeil Building > Social Science Computing : Univ. of Pennsylvania > AWhite@McNeil.sas.upenn.edu : (215) 898-2451
From: hacker@access3.digex.net (Dark Hacker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Doom NeXT vs. Doom DOS Date: 20 Dec 1993 09:16:30 -0500 Organization: Fortress Of Computation Message-ID: <2f4c3u$624@access3.digex.net> References: <rorCHzApM.FB7@netcom.com> <1993Dec13.215437.815@proximus.north.de> In article <1993Dec13.215437.815@proximus.north.de>, Gerhard Moeller <gemoe@proximus.north.de> wrote: >Will there be Doom for black mono hardware? I can't see why. Porting DOOM to black hardware would be like porting it to the Macintosh and there's no reason to think that any other ports to dissemilar architectures have been made. Two entirely different architectures. Soft PC under NeXTStep only runs on white hardware so that's out. - Hacker -- Dark Hacker @ Black Silicon, Fortress Of Computation hacker@black-silicon.mclean.va.us "Life itself is... COMPUTATION!"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jpw@sansfoy.lib.virginia.edu (John Price-Wilkin) Subject: CDPlayer.app and 3.2 on black Message-ID: <CICBnF.CJ3@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU Organization: University of Virginia Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1993 15:42:51 GMT Suddenly, with 3.2, the CDPlayer doesn't seem to work. I installed 3.2 and found the CDPlayer app is an Intel-only app, so brought in the old (3.1) app. When I start it up, it gives a message "Can't find CD-ROM drive." That's with a disc in or not. John Price-Wilkin jpw@virginia.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: gary@uaneuro.uah.ualberta.ca (Gary Ritchie) Subject: REVIEW: Mission Critical Solitaire Demo Message-ID: <1993Dec20.162241.17248@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1993 16:22:41 GMT A couple of us (Michael McCulloch<michael@hsv.tybrin.com> and myself) have been enhancing the freeware Solitaire.app in our spare time, so I thought it would be useful to give a feature comparison of it and the new commercial solitaire game "Mission Critical Solitaire" (MCS) from White Light Software. Right off the top I will say that our game hasn't been released yet (MCS has). We intend to release it by the middle of January with full source code. It will be free. It will be completely unsupported in principal, fixed and enhanced as time permits. I'm not opposed to the idea of a commercial solitaire game (I bought one for DOS a few years back). I'm just providing motivation for White Light to do *really* cool things in their game by pointing our what you can get for free. Here are the game engine features that we have implemented: - new & improved face cards - two different sizes of cards (smaller size has better dragging performance, works on VGA screens; larger size looks nicer on hi-res displays); preferences lets you choose the size you want - set background color preferences - select from three card backs - generic CardSet objects which can extracted and used to build other card games - solitaire game API with dynamic loading; you can write new solitaire games in much the same manner as you write BackSpace modules - scoring; game keeps track of how many times you play/win/lose; has the ability to track numeric scores as well Games implemented to date: - Klondike (i.e. Window's solitaire) with draw one/draw three option - Pyramid - Canfield (needs more work) - Yukon games partially implemented: may or may not be completed for release (I might choose better games to replace them or just forget about them) - AuldLangSyne - Gargantua General comments: Rock solid, bug free, will save the free world. OK, maybe I'm biased. We do have the advantage of being free and supplying source code and an API for adding new games. The card classes work fine for Solitaire games, but might need some more work to be used in other card games. We will ship with at least four games; if I get fired for writing this during working hours it will be released with 50 games due to my increased spare time. This is a "fun" project so no promises on delivery dates. -------- Mission Critical Software (demo version) - smaller cards than our smallest card size so better performance - face-card graphics are less detailed than ours - animated dealing sequence - drag-destination pile highlighting with preferences - lets you drop in your own images for card faces and backs (so does ours if you know how to use Project Builder :-) ) - has handy auto-flip when uncovered option - drag sensitivity preferences - customer support personnel who won't swear at you for bothering them (I assume) - only implements Klondike with the drawing options - looks like they plan to add more games; no mention of a public API for adding your own, though - has built in ad for Crash Catcher program (which looks useful) - crashed once (actually, went into a loop and I had to kill it) when I selected "Mouse Point" drag sensitivity; also keeps losing it's image for the card back Comments: better performance, buggy, no API, no source, only one game, commercially supported product (not sure how significant that is for a Solitaire game). There, the stakes are on the table. How will WhiteLight response? Me, I'm going for coffee. -- Gary Ritchie : NeXT Programmer Department of Medicine (Neurology) : University of Alberta Hospital gary@uaneuro.uah.ualberta.ca : NEXTMAIL Welcome (403) 492-8648
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: peter@beast.math.ualberta.ca (Peter Karbaliotis) Subject: Re: CDPlayer.app and 3.2 on black Message-ID: <1993Dec20.171031.18950@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada References: <CICBnF.CJ3@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1993 17:10:31 GMT In article <CICBnF.CJ3@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> jpw@sansfoy.lib.virginia.edu (John Price-Wilkin) writes: >Suddenly, with 3.2, the CDPlayer doesn't seem to work. I installed >3.2 and found the CDPlayer app is an Intel-only app, so brought in >the old (3.1) app. When I start it up, it gives a message "Can't >find CD-ROM drive." That's with a disc in or not. > >John Price-Wilkin >jpw@virginia.edu Hmm... Mine installed without problems (NeXTstation with 3.2 and NeXT CD-ROM drive). CDPlayer.app autolaunches when an audio CD is inserted, and no, the app isn't on my dock, I don't have Public Window Server set and I do have two disk drives at SCSI id 0 and 1. You should check that you've got /usr/filesystems/cdaudio.fs installed. How did your machine get the Intel version installed on it? Is you /NextDeveloper/Demos directory an NFS mount? -- Peter Karbaliotis - peter@beast.math.ualberta.ca - NeXTmail ok X is proof that something can fill a vacuum but still suck. --- Dennis Ritchie
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dpeter@hsd.com (David W. Peter) Subject: Re: SpellChecker for the NeXT Message-ID: <CICEFA.74I@beach.com> Sender: dpeter@beach.com (David Peter) Organization: HSD U.S. Inc., S.D. References: <1993Dec16.111722.14237@hackatg.demon.co.uk> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1993 16:42:45 GMT In article <1993Dec16.111722.14237@hackatg.demon.co.uk> gjudd@hackatg.demon.co.uk (Graham Judd) writes: > Does anyone know of any SpellChecker utility for the NeXT, beit commercial or > otherwise. > > Thanks > Graham > Product Name: HSD Spell List Price: $149.00 includes two languages Additional Languages: $99 each Availability: Shipping now for Motorola and Intel-based NEXTSTEP Product description: HSD Spell is the international spelling software for NEXTSTEP that automatically integrates multiple language spelling capabilities into your existing applications. HSD spell can also be used as a stand- alone application or accessed as a Service from other applications. HSD Spell supports 11 international languages including Danish, Dutch, English, Finnish, French, German, Italian, Norwegian, Portuguese, Spanish and Swedish. ---------------------------------------------------------------- David W. Peter HSD Inc. Ph. (408) 774-1400 Fax (408) 774-1402 Email: dpeter@hsd.com (NeXTMail) -- Sincerely, David W. Peter HSD Inc.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: cowboy@omega.csuohio.edu (Joe Rosenfeld) Subject: Intel 3.2 Mail.app strangeness Message-ID: <1993Dec20.175632.7934@news.csuohio.edu> Sender: news@news.csuohio.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Cleveland State University Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1993 17:56:32 GMT Interesting thing happens with the Mail.app on Intel, when using NeXT mail option. When I drag a file into the Mail compose window, it EXPANDS whether I want to or not. I dread the database but found nothing which makes any sense or even refers to this new phenomenom. Can anyone tell me how to stop this annoying situation? Thanks in advance. -- | Joe Rosenfeld j.rosenfeld@csuohio.edu | Automation Librarian (216) 687-6881 [FAX] | CSU Law Library trans.csuohio.edu [ANON FTP] | NeXTMail and MIME ok
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: pvinson@gryphon.laafb.af.mil Subject: Re: what word processors are left? Content-Type: text/plain Message-ID: <pvinson.93Dec20101746@gryphon> Sender: news@math.fu-berlin.de (Math Department) Organization: Free University of Berlin, Germany References: <pvinson.93Dec15141847@gryphon> <1993Dec17.153312.297@afs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Distribution: fj Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1993 09:17:46 GMT Michael, thanks for the info. Just what I wanted to hear :-). Sorry for the "andrew"...got confused with another post I was replying to. Patrick V.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: u7913108@cc.nctu.edu.tw (*** Mark Lin ***) Subject: install InstallTeX fail !!! Message-ID: <1993Dec20.183350.1344@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw> Sender: usenet@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw Organization: National Chiao Tung University Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1993 18:33:50 GMT I try to install InstallTeX on my Intel machine but get error. What's wrong? It should be a FAT-binary. The OS version is 3.2 mark
From: nemiroal@bus.orst.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: SoftPC compatiblity for NS/Intel Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1993 11:34:21 Organization: College of Business, Oregon State University, Corvallis Message-ID: <nemiroal.1.000B92EF@bus.orst.edu> Summary: request for info about SoftPC compatiblity. Keywords: SoftPC, DOS/Windows hello everyone, I just recently put in an order for NS/I 3.2 and am also interested in getting SoftPC Windows/Dos. Does anyone know an e-mail for SoftPC info (Inigma ?). I am interested if they have a list of known apps that run under the Intel version of SoftPC. I dont suppose SoftPC runs apps like Autocad but I thought that I would look anyways. thanks in advance.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: ak866@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Steven Besler) Subject: Re: Doom NeXT vs. Doom DOS Message-ID: <CICs57.H64@freenet.carleton.ca> Sender: news@freenet.carleton.ca Organization: The National Capital FreeNet References: <2f4c3u$624@access3.digex.net> <rorCHzApM.FB7@netcom.com> <1993Dec13.215437.815@proximus.north.de> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1993 21:39:07 GMT In a previous article, hacker@access3.digex.net (Dark Hacker) says: >In article <1993Dec13.215437.815@proximus.north.de>, >Gerhard Moeller <gemoe@proximus.north.de> wrote: >>Will there be Doom for black mono hardware? > >I can't see why. Porting DOOM to black hardware would be like porting >it to the Macintosh and there's no reason to think that any other >ports to dissemilar architectures have been made. Two entirely >different architectures. Soft PC under NeXTStep only runs on white >hardware so that's out. The all knowing "Dark Hacker" strikes again. 1) SoftPC runs on Black Hardware. 2) Doom runs on Colour Black Hardware. Not to offend you, but perhaps you should get a clue before posting this drivel? Merry Christmas! Steve. -- Steven K. Besler | Life fluctuates between boredom, fascination, and ak866@freenet.carleton.ca | panic; punctuated by sleep, alcohol, and caffeine.
From: wmorse@erasure-sl.cc.emory.edu (William Morse) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: CDPlayer.app and 3.2 on black Date: 20 Dec 1993 22:21:13 GMT Organization: Emory University, Dept of Math and CS Distribution: world Message-ID: <2f58gpINNhg8@emory.mathcs.emory.edu> References: <CICBnF.CJ3@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> In article <CICBnF.CJ3@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> jpw@sansfoy.lib.virginia.edu (John Price-Wilkin) writes: > Suddenly, with 3.2, the CDPlayer doesn't seem to work. I installed > 3.2 and found the CDPlayer app is an Intel-only app, so brought in > the old (3.1) app. When I start it up, it gives a message "Can't > find CD-ROM drive." That's with a disc in or not. > > John Price-Wilkin > jpw@virginia.edu ------- From the very helpful Garance Alistair Drosehn (gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu) at ITS: ----- It could be that... the file-ownership of one of CDPlayer's files is wrong. To fix: Log in as userid root Start up Terminal.app to get a Unix shell. Change the directory to wherever your CDPlayer.app is. If you have it in the standard location, you'd do that by typing the unix command: cd /NextDeveloper/Demos/CDPlayer.app (note you "cd" into the actual application directory) Now type the unix command: ls -lg CDPlayer What you should see is: -rwsr-xr-x 1 root wheel 57344 Jul 24 1992 CDPlayer* What you'll probably see is a different owner than root, or the "s" in "-rws" will be an "x" instead. To fix this, type the unix commands: chown -R root . chmod u+s CDPlayer (note that there is a blank followed by a period at the end of that "chown" command). ----- I also believe in the release notes it said that CDPlayer.app 3.2 only works if you launch it by double clicking if the CD-ROM is set to SCSI ID 1 or 0. (Look under "Disks and Disk Drives" under the release notes... fourth one down). Further, it will not work when you insert a disk unless you have public window server on. Hope this helps! William ===================================================================== Consult. / ITD :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Emory Law Student =====================================================================
From: wmorse@erasure-sl.cc.emory.edu (William Morse) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Best GIF image viewer? Date: 20 Dec 1993 22:31:04 GMT Organization: Emory University, Dept of Math and CS Distribution: world Message-ID: <2f5938INNi4d@emory.mathcs.emory.edu> References: <westes.10.0001075A@netcom.com> In article <westes.10.0001075A@netcom.com> westes@netcom.com (Will Estes) writes: > What is the best general-purpose image viewer for NeXT? > > -- > Thanks, > Will Estes Internet: westes@netcom.com ------ I personally prefer ImageViewer.app. While I have AppSoft Image, for general viewing, ImageViewer.app can't be beat. ImageViewer can also do some translations from one file format to another. Another very good app is GraphicsWorkshop.app. So, I would suggest trying both. You can probably find them at cs.orst.edu. I would tell you the exact directory, but Emory seems to believe that the site is unreachable at the moment. Hummm... William ===================================================================== Consult./ITD :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Emory Law Student =====================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jpw@sansfoy.lib.virginia.edu (John Price-Wilkin) Subject: Re: CDPlayer.app and 3.2 on black Message-ID: <CICsJ2.KnG@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU Organization: University of Virginia References: <1993Dec20.171031.18950@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1993 21:47:26 GMT In article <1993Dec20.171031.18950@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> peter@beast.math.ualberta.ca (Peter Karbaliotis) writes: > In article <CICBnF.CJ3@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> > jpw@sansfoy.lib.virginia.edu (John Price-Wilkin) writes: > >Suddenly, with 3.2, the CDPlayer doesn't seem to work. I installed > >3.2 and found the CDPlayer app is an Intel-only app, so brought in > >the old (3.1) app. When I start it up, it gives a message "Can't > >find CD-ROM drive." That's with a disc in or not. > > > Hmm... Mine installed without problems (NeXTstation with 3.2 and > NeXT CD-ROM drive). CDPlayer.app autolaunches when an audio CD > is inserted, and no, the app isn't on my dock, I don't have Public > Window Server set and I do have two disk drives at SCSI id 0 and 1. Well, I was wrong. It did install for NSI, but I was able to get working copy for m68k off the CD-ROM. It still has the same message as the 3.1 app, though, except when I run it as root. > You should check that you've got /usr/filesystems/cdaudio.fs > installed. I do have /usr/filesystems/cdaudio.fs installed. > How did your machine get the Intel version installed on it? > Is you /NextDeveloper/Demos directory an NFS mount? Nope, not from an NFS mount. I did install everything for both NSI and m68k because I wanted to NFS export the NSI stuff. it gives a message "Can't > >find CD-ROM drive." That's with a disc in or not. > > > Hmm... Mine installed without problems (NeXTstation with 3.2 and > NeXT CD-ROM drive). CDPlayer.app autolaunches when an audio CD > is inserted, and no, the app isn't on my dock, I don't have Public > Window Server set and I do have two disk drives at SCSI id 0 and 1. Well, I was wrong. It did install for NSI, but I was able to get working copy for m68k off the CD-ROM. It still has the same message as the 3.1 app, though, except when I run it as root. > You should check that you've got /usr/filesystems/cdaudio.fs > installed. I do have /usr/filesystems/cdaudio.fs installed. > How did your machine get the Intel version installed on it? > Is you /NextDeveloper/Demos directory an NFS mount? No
From: rlion@access.digex.net (rebel lion) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Doom NeXT vs. Doom DOS Date: 20 Dec 1993 17:30:50 -0500 Organization: Rebellion System, Alexandria, VA Message-ID: <rlion.756426590@access> References: <rorCHzApM.FB7@netcom.com> <1993Dec13.215437.815@proximus.north.de> <2f4c3u$624@access3.digex.net> hacker@access3.digex.net (Dark Hacker) writes: >In article <1993Dec13.215437.815@proximus.north.de>, >Gerhard Moeller <gemoe@proximus.north.de> wrote: >>Will there be Doom for black mono hardware? >I can't see why. Porting DOOM to black hardware would be like porting >it to the Macintosh and there's no reason to think that any other >ports to dissemilar architectures have been made. Two entirely >different architectures. Soft PC under NeXTStep only runs on white >hardware so that's out. >hacker@black-silicon.mclean.va.us i'm happily running SoftPC on a NeXTStation Mono box i have no idea where you heard that it'll only run on NS/i -- rebel lion (rlion@access.digex.net) (alpha pager: (704) 356-3140) =-= finger my account for computer stuff i have forsale =-= void life() { aint_nothing(but_a,good->groove);
From: wmorse@erasure-sl.cc.emory.edu (William Morse) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: SpellChecker for the NeXT Date: 20 Dec 1993 22:34:09 GMT Organization: Emory University, Dept of Math and CS Distribution: world Message-ID: <2f5991INNi6k@emory.mathcs.emory.edu> References: <CICEFA.74I@beach.com> > gjudd@hackatg.demon.co.uk (Graham Judd) writes: > Does anyone know of any SpellChecker utility for the NeXT, beit > commercial or otherwise. > > Thanks > Graham > --------- Just in case you didn't notice, there is one built into NeXTStep. If you check under the "edit" menu, you will see it. William ================================================================== Consult. / ITD ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Emory Law Student ==================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: thompson@netcom.com (Eric Thompson) Subject: Re: Doom NeXT vs. Doom DOS Message-ID: <thompsonCICtwn.7Gq@netcom.com> Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) References: <rorCHzApM.FB7@netcom.com> <1993Dec13.215437.815@proximus.north.de> <2f4c3u$624@access3.digex.net> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1993 22:17:11 GMT >I can't see why. Porting DOOM to black hardware would be like porting >it to the Macintosh and there's no reason to think that any other >ports to dissemilar architectures have been made. Two entirely >different architectures. Soft PC under NeXTStep only runs on white >hardware so that's out. > >- Hacker What are you talking about? SoftPC for NEXTSTEP runs on both black and white hardware. Doom was written under NEXTSTEP and ported to the PC. Before the PC version came out, there was a NEXTSTEP Doom Beta released on the NeXT archives which only runs on white hardware. I have it. And, id has announced that Doom will run on black hardware, although a bit after they get sound/colors down for white hardware. Eric
From: hacker@access.digex.net (Dark Hacker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Doom NeXT vs. Doom DOS Date: 20 Dec 1993 17:56:43 -0500 Organization: Fortress Of Computation Message-ID: <2f5ajb$5fh@access.digex.net> References: <rorCHzApM.FB7@netcom.com> <1993Dec13.215437.815@proximus.north.de> <2f4c3u$624@access3.digex.net> <rlion.756426590@access> >i'm happily running SoftPC on a NeXTStation Mono box i have no idea where >you heard that it'll only run on NS/i I believe it was either NeXT themselves or Insignia Solutions. It was an authority not rumor. Guess it wasn't much of an authority. - Hacker -- Dark Hacker @ Black Silicon, Fortress Of Computation hacker@black-silicon.mclean.va.us "Life itself is... COMPUTATION!"
From: hacker@access.digex.net (Dark Hacker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Soft PC on black/white hardware Date: 20 Dec 1993 18:10:35 -0500 Organization: Fortress Of Computation Message-ID: <2f5bdb$6o8@access.digex.net> >Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software >Path: digex.net!uunet!MathWorks.Com!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.reston.ans.net!torn!nott!cunews!freenet.carleton.ca!FreeNet.Carleton.CA!ak866 >From: ak866@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Steven Besler)>Subject: Re: Doom NeXT vs. Doom DOS >Message-ID: <CICs57.H64@freenet.carleton.ca> >Sender: news@freenet.carleton.ca >Reply-To: ak866@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Steven Besler) >Organization: The National Capital FreeNet >References: <2f4c3u$624@access3.digex.net> <rorCHzApM.FB7@netcom.com> <1993Dec13.215437.815@proximus.north.de> >Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1993 21:39:07 GMT >Lines: 29 > > > >In a previous article, hacker@access3.digex.net (Dark Hacker) says: > >>In article <1993Dec13.215437.815@proximus.north.de>, >>Gerhard Moeller <gemoe@proximus.north.de> wrote: >>>Will there be Doom for black mono hardware? >> >>I can't see why. Porting DOOM to black hardware would be like porting >>it to the Macintosh and there's no reason to think that any other >>ports to dissemilar architectures have been made. Two entirely >>different architectures. Soft PC under NeXTStep only runs on white >>hardware so that's out. > >The all knowing "Dark Hacker" strikes again. > >1) SoftPC runs on Black Hardware. >2) Doom runs on Colour Black Hardware. > >Not to offend you, but perhaps you should get >a clue before posting this drivel? Sigh... ok looking at my phone log I see that I placed a call to NeXTProduct Support asking them about Soft PC in 3.2 because I was interested in running a few IBM packages on my NeXT. According to the young lady on the other end there was no Soft PC built-in support in NS 3.X on black hardware. There would be support on white hardware. "Why would you want PC emulation on Intel hardware I asked?" "Because it ran faster and gave you access to the screen and other facilities not available on black hardware." So I bought an IBM PC. Ok... satisfied? - Hacker -- Dark Hacker @ Black Silicon, Fortress Of Computation hacker@black-silicon.mclean.va.us "Life itself is... COMPUTATION!"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: westes@netcom.com (Will Estes) Subject: Associating man pages with an app? Message-ID: <westesCICyDz.Dpx@netcom.com> Organization: Mail Group Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1993 23:53:56 GMT I would like to set things up so that any file with the template *.? is processed as a man page automatically when I double click on it (nroff format). How do I set up this association? What is the best nroff command to issue against such files? -- Will Estes Internet: westes@netcom.com
From: rlion@access.digex.net (rebel lion) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software Subject: i need help finding good SLIP software Date: 20 Dec 1993 21:11:52 -0500 Organization: Rebellion System, Alexandria, VA Message-ID: <rlion.756439868@access> i've got a nextstation mono 040 box and i need some good slip software, i got a SLIP connection all set, i just need some zarking software! anyone with tips flow me some mail or post here i dont care! thanks -- rebel lion (rlion@access.digex.net) (alpha pager: (704) 356-3140) =-= finger my account for computer stuff i have forsale =-= void life() { aint_nothing(but_a,good->groove);
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dpeter@hsd.com (David W. Peter) Subject: Re: SpellChecker for the NeXT Message-ID: <CID109.8Gr@beach.com> Sender: dpeter@beach.com (David Peter) Organization: HSD U.S. Inc., S.D. References: <2f5991INNi6k@emory.mathcs.emory.edu> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1993 00:50:32 GMT In article <2f5991INNi6k@emory.mathcs.emory.edu> wmorse@erasure-sl.cc.emory.edu (William Morse) writes: > > > gjudd@hackatg.demon.co.uk (Graham Judd) writes: > > Does anyone know of any SpellChecker utility for the NeXT, beit > > commercial or otherwise. > > > > Thanks > > Graham > > > --------- > > Just in case you didn't notice, there is one built into NeXTStep. > If you check under the "edit" menu, you will see it. > > William > ================================================================== > Consult. / ITD ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Emory Law Student > ================================================================== Yes, there is, but it doesn't support Danish, Dutch, Finnish, French, German, Italian, Norwegian, Portuguese, Spanish, Swedish or the English (U.K. version) that Graham requires... And, by the way, once HSD Spell is installed, it will also appear in the "Spelling" menu of Edit, Mail, NewsGrazer, or any other application that supports NeXT's text object. And you can even use it Apps that do not support NeXT's text object via "Services." Oh, and just for fun, try checking the spelling of these _properly spelled_ words using the spell checker built-in to NeXTSTEP, paying close attention to the _incorrect_ suggestions it makes: Spellchecker Underwhelming Wacked Asshole (forgive me... but it's one of the best) Pretty funny, huh? And this is just a partial list of the ones we've discovered. Someday I'll have to post the entire list ;-) In the meantime, you can get a _real_ spell checker by contacting HSD. Sincerely, David W. Peter HSD Inc. Ph. (408) 774-1400 Fax (408) 774-1402 Email: dpeter@hsd.com (NeXTMail) -- Sincerely, David W. Peter HSD Inc.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jimbo@oingo.umn.edu Subject: WWW (I don't get it) Message-ID: <CIDAAt.3s1@news2.cis.umn.edu> Sender: news@news2.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1993 04:05:18 GMT Just got the new WWW and all I get is "Overview of the Web". I set the dwrite WorldWideWeb NewsHost xxxx to my news server but I dont get anything more. Is this just a demo?? --- -------------------------------------------------------------------- James P. Klett klett@sunrayce.solar.umn.edu jimbo@oingo.umn.edu (SLIP) -------------------------------------------------------------------- Slip Slipping' away... --------------------------------------------------------------------
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Quick Guide to NEXTSTEP information on the Internet Date: 21 Dec 1993 00:14:36 -0500 Organization: Next Announcements Message-ID: <2f60ns$sq8@digifix.digifix.com> * new additions Two new FTP sites on the other side of the planet. This post is made weekly, to help 'point' users to more NEXTSTEP information Topics include: comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers comp.sys.next.* newsgroups -------------------------- Comp.Sys.Next.Advocacy This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. Comp.Sys.Next.Announce Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) The NEXTSTEP FAQs are posted here monthly as well. This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Comp.Sys.Next.Bugs A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well. Comp.Sys.Next.Hardware Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. Comp.Sys.Next.Marketplace NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. Comp.Sys.Next.Misc For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! Comp.Sys.Next.Programmer Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. The NEXTSTEP programmer FAQs are posted here. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. Comp.Sys.Next.Software This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. Comp.Sys.Next.Sysadmin Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. related Newsgroups ------------------ Comp.Soft-Sys.Nextstep Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. Comp.Lang.Objective-C Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. Comp.Object Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original Comp.Sys.Next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News ------------------------------------------- Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep-d next-advocacy-d next-announce-d next-bugs-d next-hardware-d next-marketplace-d next-misc-d next-programmer-d next-software-d next-sysadmin-d (For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to <digestif@antigone.com>). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's. To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying: SUB Listname YourName Example: SUB next-hardware-d John Doe The ftp sites ------------- cs.orst.edu: The main site for North American submissions nova.cc.purdue.edu: Lots of older stuff, but very short on disk space ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: In Germany. terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp.next.com: See the below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ------------------------------------- From the document 1000_Help from ftp.next.com Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, or you can transfer them by anonymous ftp. NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being. NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests. USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to NeXTanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead. To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the body of the message. You can request several files in a single message. You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message. These commands affect the way that files you request are sent: ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME Message/Partial specification These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system: HELP returns this help file INDEX returns the list of all available files INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list (ignoring capitalization) For example, a message with the following Subject line requests three files: Subject: 2101 2234 1109 A message with this body requests the same three files be sent as ASCII text files: 2101 2234 1109 ascii This message requests two lists of files, one for each search: Subject: SEARCH Dell SCSI SEARCH NetInfo domain NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command REPLY-TO <your-address> If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement, please send mail to NeXTanswers-request@NeXT.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the files will be faxed to you. If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada. USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using this, please send mail to NeXTanswers-request@NeXT.com. Written by: Eric P. Scott eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU and Scott Anguish sanguish@digifix.com Additions from: Greg Anderson (Greg_Anderson@afs.com) and Michael Pizolato (Michael_Pizolato@afs.com)
From: gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: HELP! Boot panic! Date: 21 Dec 1993 03:21:37 GMT Organization: University of Maryland, College Park Message-ID: <2f5q41$sg2@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> In a mistaken effort to get CDPlayer.app to work, I checked Public Window Server in Preferences and rebooted. Mistake! The machine will not boot, but is looking for the window server, What is worse, it now is booting in single-user mode, and I have no idea what to do. Sometimes it just panics on boot. WHAT do I do exactly? All I want to do is un-check Public Window Server!! Thanks R. de Lucca John sHopkins
From: erictremblay@genie.geis.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: UUCP and Intel Serial Ports Date: 21 Dec 1993 00:34:30 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9312210634.AA22149@relay2.geis.com> Markus, I have to admit that after two weeks of semi-use my UUCP link it is not as good as I thought. Sometimes I cannot call the other computer and sometimes the other computer cannot log into my computer so it's not a 100%... Boy that /usr/adm/messages can get really BIG. Mine was over 4MB!!! Eric "E.T." Tremblay
From: rasmussen@nbivax.nbi.dk Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Intuitiv 3d problems Message-ID: <1993Dec20.204154.1447@nbivax.nbi.dk> Date: 20 Dec 93 20:41:54 +0100 Organization: Niels Bohr Institute and Nordita, Copenhagen I've got Intuitiv 3d, and has jrecently upgraded to NextStep 3.2. Suddenly Intuitiv won't draw wireframe and point cloud models in either the 3 flat views or the 3d views. Sometimes I'm able to get it to draw the wireframes by changing resolution and / or moving the objects, but most often I only see some strange colored lines in the display. The shaded modes etc works perfectly, but... Is this a known problem with i3d/NeXTStep3.2 or have I made a mess out of somethinggsdf mething when installing 3.2 (I've reinstalled i3d too). Any help would be appreciated. Helge
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: westes@netcom.com (Will Estes) Subject: Utilities to send MIME and NeXTMail from command line? Message-ID: <westesCIDHCp.B3G@netcom.com> Organization: Mail Group Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1993 06:43:36 GMT I'm looking for UNIX command-line utilities that will take as their argument a binary file, and produce from that either NeXTMail or MIME mail. What's out there to do this? -- Will Estes Internet: westes@netcom.com
From: mark@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca (Mark Gregory Salyzyn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Getting around NSFIP serial Message-ID: <CIBp4M.B2G@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1993 07:36:19 GMT References: <9312140104.AA26690@relay2.geis.com> Organization: VE6MGS Gateway erictremblay@genie.geis.com writes: >One last note. UUCP did not work with 3.1 (serial port bug) but it works > great with 3.2 and that's an outgoing and incoming UUCP link. It worked fine here (minus the crashes with RDP exception at least once a day). I have 50MB of news travelling through at 9600 Baud. I had the NeXTanswers driver upgrade ... < `some babble' warning for those that need more details > 3.2 is looking good, I am only getting 0 to 4 retries on a 400K file transfer at 19200 to a 14400 Modem. Before I had 5 to 30 retries with NS/FIP 3.1 with the driver upgrade (lower throughput than 9600 Baud had). Throughput is *not* hot, under 3.2, barely worth going to 19200 over 9600 with the 0 to 4 packet losses per a 400K transfer, but the machine has stayed up for 30 hours which in itself is a record ... I have *yet* to see an freeze up, RDP or serial driver crash on my machine (although a friends machine with the *same* hardware is freezing up after about four `ribbit's from his sound card ...) I am *dismayed* that there was no Serial Driver source distributed with the 3.2 DriverKit, since I would have liked to have curled it to talk to my 4 port Digi-Board ... NeXT, if you are listening, you are loosing a chance to add third party driver support with your paltry examples in the DriverKit. I *still* don't know how to do the ioctls thru example ... Ciao -- Mark
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch) Subject: Re: Doom NeXT vs. Doom DOS Message-ID: <1993Dec21.080954.2205@seer.demon.co.uk> Sender: paul@seer.demon.co.uk Organization: P & L Systems References: <CICs57.H64@freenet.carleton.ca> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1993 08:09:54 GMT In article <CICs57.H64@freenet.carleton.ca> ak866@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Steven Besler) writes: > > > In a previous article, hacker@access3.digex.net (Dark Hacker) says: > > >In article <1993Dec13.215437.815@proximus.north.de>, > >Gerhard Moeller <gemoe@proximus.north.de> wrote: > >>Will there be Doom for black mono hardware? > > > >I can't see why. Porting DOOM to black hardware would be like porting > >it to the Macintosh and there's no reason to think that any other > >ports to dissemilar architectures have been made. Two entirely > >different architectures. Soft PC under NeXTStep only runs on white > >hardware so that's out. > > The all knowing "Dark Hacker" strikes again. > > 1) SoftPC runs on Black Hardware. > 2) Doom runs on Colour Black Hardware. > > Not to offend you, but perhaps you should get > a clue before posting this drivel? Just to contradict all the posts I have seen so far: yes, there is a vesion of SoftPC that runs on black hardware. However, the latest version that runs Windows at a reasonable speed only runs on Intel hardware. And to contradict just this post: Doom is available only for NeXTSTEP on Intel hardware (apart from the DOS version). > Merry Christmas! And to everyone. -- Paul Lynch P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk Tel: (0494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green, Fax: (0494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
From: romdas@uclink.berkeley.edu (John Badanes) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: FlyView Flew Date: 21 Dec 1993 09:31:51 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Message-ID: <2f6fq7$o9h@agate.berkeley.edu> Originator: romdas@uclink.berkeley.edu I just installed 3.2 user [motorola] and the BackSpace.app as well. Everything works except for my FlyView BackSpace module which will not 'dynamically load' when I'm logged into my account...but works fine as root. BackSpace and all modules are all root owned, and all other modules work fine. In fact, FlyView worked fine under 3.0...but I'm not ready to go back to 3.0 just for FlyView...at least yet. What's the simple solution to getting this excellent screen-saver module up and running again. Works fine as root....but not as 'me.' John
From: ptuomola@hacktic.nl (Petri Tuomola) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Binary apps on NS 2.0 (black) Date: 21 Dec 1993 12:43:20 +0100 Organization: Hack-Tic, networking for the masses Message-ID: <2f6nh6INNja7@xs4all.hacktic.nl> I just got my NeXTstation and I love it! But when I try to download program binaries (kermit, binary mode) from cs.orst.edu and other ftp sites, I can't run them. I can uncompress & untar them without any problems, everything is fine, but then when I try to execute the program, I just get window saying [program exited]. I don't have the developer package yet, just the user version, so I can't compile programs myself. I think the problem is that one can't use programs compiled with later versions of NeXTstep in NS 2.0. I'm getting 3.1 CDROMs in mail, so it's not really a problem for me. I just wanted to give it a try while waiting for the CDs to arrive. So, if some kind soul could tell me if the programs should work and I'm doing something wrong, or if they won't work and I just have to wait 'til I get the CDROMs. Thanks Petri
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.software From: mdw@sitar.jazz.att.com (Mark Wuest-nscst-tnt) Subject: 3.X Powerdown Problem Fix (was Re: Problems powering NeXTstation down...) Message-ID: <CIE0wG.H6q@cbfsb.cb.att.com> Originator: news@cbnewsg.cb.att.com Sender: news@cbfsb.cb.att.com Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1993 13:45:51 GMT Well, Art Isbell sent me email after my post in which I discussed my slab hanging when I tried to powerdown and how, coincidentally, I had to uninstall and re-install DoveFax.app to be able to Fax after upgrading to 3.1 from 2.1. He noted that one of his clients had similar problems shutting down and that it was related to the Fax modem. (In his client's case, it could not shut down if the Fax modem was enabled but physically disconnected at the time shutdown was attempted.) It was no coincidence. The Fax software was the culprit. It turns out that re-installing the Fax software also fixed my shutdown problem. It's kinda hard to pursue further at this point, but there would appear to be a bug in the NeXT upgrade software that doesn't handle Fax modems/software properly. The workaround is to uninstall and reinstall the Fax software after upgrading. We'll see what happens when I get the nerve to upgrade 3.1->3.2, but I imagine it is a 2.X->3.X problem. -- Mark Wuest mdw@sitar.jazz.att.com (NeXT Mail Ok)
From: mueller@n1 (Robert Mueller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: OO-Databases Date: 21 Dec 1993 15:17:35 GMT Organization: Johannes Gutenberg-Universitaet Mainz, Germany Message-ID: <2f742f$2dg@bambi.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE> Hi, are there any Object-Oriented databases running under NeXTStep (Mach AND Intel), with an ObjC-interface? Which OO-databases with a C++-Interface have yet been ported to NeXTStep (Mach AND Intel)? The last what I heard is that Versant is NOT porting to NextStep/Intel ... Thanks in advance Robert Muellert University of Mainz Germany
From: akhtar@az.stratus.com (Naeem_Akhtar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Flight Simulator for Black box Date: 21 Dec 1993 15:29:07 GMT Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA Message-ID: <2f74o3$97j@transfer.stratus.com> Hi! Does anyone know of a site from where I can get flight simulator for NeXT (black box running 3.2). Any pointers will be appreciated. -- NewsGrazer, a NeXTstep(tm) news reader, posting -- M>UQR=&8P7&%N<VE[7&9O;G1T8FQ<9C!<9FUO9&5R;B!#;W5R:65R.WT*7&UA M<F=L,3(P"EQM87)G<C$R,`I<<&%R9%QT>#$Q-3)<='@R,S`T7'1X,S0U-EQT M>#0V,#A<='@U-S8P7'1X-CDQ,EQT>#@P-C1<='@Y,C$V7'1X,3`S-CA<='@Q M,34R,%QF,%QB,%QI,%QU;&YO;F5<9G,R-%QF8S!<8V8P(%P*7`I(:2%<"B`@ M($1O97,@86YY;VYE(&MN;W<@;V8@82!S:71E(&9R;VT@=VAE<F4@22!C86X@ M9V5T(&9L:6=H="!S:6UU;&%T;W(@9F]R($YE6%0@*&)L86-K(&)O>"!R=6YN M:6YG(#,N,BDN($%N>2!P;VEN=&5R<R!W:6QL(&)E(&%P<')E8VEA=&5D+EP* #"GT* `
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Michael_Pizolato@afs.com (Michael Pizolato) Subject: Re: what word processors are left? Message-ID: <1993Dec21.133915.431@afs.com> Sender: Michael_Pizolato@afs.com References: <10349@blue.cis.pitt.edu> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1993 13:39:15 GMT John C Haugeland writes >Here's a related question: Will the required behavior/format/APIs >(whichever is relevant) for these DIBs be published? I can think >of two reasons why that might be useful. > >(1) People might want to hack their own converters between WriteUp >and other formats not likely to be supported by AFS. [snip] > >(2) The same interface might make WriteUp usable as a kind of >report-generator-engine for other applications, whether commercial, >freeware, or just local and ad hoc. [snip] > >And, besides, what's the point of keeping it secret? There is no point, and it will not be secret. As soon as the spec is finished, it will be available. The same will be true of the WriteUp/PasteUp markup language spec (which DIBs use to communicate with the main app), and the keyboard definition spec (which will almost certainly be markup language anyway, and not a separate spec). We encourage anyone to create a DIB and offer it for use with WriteUp. As for using WriteUp and PasteUp as report display engines, yes, absolutely, please do! The APIs of both apps will be based on using the markup language to communicate with the app, so it will be easy to generate reports and use WriteUp or PasteUp to display them. We're even offering a "read-only" version of WriteUp (it reads and displays files but won't edit or write them, like NeXT's Preview.app) at _extremely_ low cost. Such an app could be the display engine for any other app that creates reports. Thanx, Michael -- Michael_Pizolato@afs.com "Schopenhauer's not as optimistic as Nietzsche, NeXTMail accepted but he makes up for it by being less cheerful than Kierkegaard." - Kim Pizolato
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: gary@nshade.uah.ualberta.ca (Gary Ritchie) Subject: Re: WWW (I don't get it) Message-ID: <1993Dec21.154603.2168@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada References: <CIDAAt.3s1@news2.cis.umn.edu> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1993 15:46:03 GMT In article <CIDAAt.3s1@news2.cis.umn.edu> jimbo@oingo.umn.edu writes: > Just got the new WWW and all I get is "Overview of the Web". Which "new WWW"? Is there a new version of WorldWideWeb.app (newer than V1.0) , or is this something else? "Overview of the Web" is a hypertext document; double click on the underlined words. WorldWideWeb.app (V1.0, at least) is quite out of date; unfortunately your best option for accessing the Web is to install X-windows and Mosaic. -- Gary Ritchie : NeXT Programmer Department of Medicine (Neurology) : University of Alberta Hospital gary@uaneuro.uah.ualberta.ca : NEXTMAIL Welcome (403) 492-8648
From: charlesa@learned.co.uk Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: GatorFTP(+) authors... Intel doesn't work Date: Tue, 21 Dec 93 17:31:15 GMT Organization: EUnet GB Message-ID: <2f7c3b$4cv@marble.Britain.EU.net> References: <manenber.93Dec1752544@ibis.ccmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In article <manenber.93Dec1752544@ibis.ccmail.com>, <manenber@ibis.ccmail.com> > > To the authors of GatorFTP or GatorFTP+ : > > The NS/Intel version of Gator FTP+ crashes everytime you try and transfer and files. > I get the same problem. Just to let you know that Mark's problem seems widespread. Charles
From: charlesa@learned.co.uk Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Raise RDP Exception Date: Tue, 21 Dec 93 17:34:24 GMT Organization: EUnet GB Message-ID: <2f7ce8$4cv@marble.Britain.EU.net> References: <9312181825.AA08226@cantina.lanl.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In article <9312181825.AA08226@cantina.lanl.gov>, <silbar@cantina.lanl.gov> writes: > > Wes Spears writes: > > I have been getting this error. > > Raise RDP exception 6 Code 3 subcode 0 > Waiting for RDP connection. > I also get this, only during a BOOT, though. I happens about 20%- 25% of the time. The RDP error always seems to occur when the boot process fails to reset the SCSI bus. I'm also using NS3.1, on an Intel GX workstation with an Adaptec 1542 controller. The only way I've found to get around this is to hit the reset button, then it resets the SCSI bus just fine and no RDP errors. A bit nerve-racking, though. I, too, would like to know if this is fixed in 3.2 (BEFORE I spend the $$$). My NeXT vender wouldn't even acknolodge the problem. Charles.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: ploeger@aplki.toppoint.de (Andreas Ploeger) Subject: Re: WWW Server under NeXT? Message-ID: <1993Dec21.113916.834@aplki.toppoint.de> Sender: ploeger@aplki.toppoint.de (Andreas Ploeger) Organization: Andreas Ploeger References: <westesCI6ELx.CBx@netcom.com> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 93 11:39:16 GMT In article <westesCI6ELx.CBx@netcom.com> westes@netcom.com (Will Estes) writes: > Has anyone ported the World Wide Web server code to NeXT? I'm running httpd under 3.1: Get httpd-1.0.tar.gz from a file server near you, set CC=cc and AUX_CFLAGS=-DNEXT in the Makefile and comment out #define _POSIX_SOURCE in httpd.h. Greetings, Andreas -------------------------------------------------------------------- Andreas Ploeger E-Mail: ploeger@tpki.toppoint.de Kiel University Phone: (49) 431 597 1757 Clinic for Pediatric Cardiology FAX: (49) 431 597 1828 Schwanenweg 20, 24105 Kiel 1, Germany *** NeXT Mail welcome *** -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Andreas Ploeger E-Mail: ploeger@tpki.toppoint.de
From: charlesa@learned.co.uk Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,alt.internet.talk-radio Subject: Playing Sun .au files on a NeXT Date: Tue, 21 Dec 93 17:41:45 GMT Organization: EUnet GB Message-ID: <2f7crd$4cv@marble.Britain.EU.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi - I'm trying to play Internet Talk Radio files on a NeXT 3.1. ITR files are distributed as Sun .au file formats, which I understand is closely associated with the NeXT's .snd format. If I rename the .au file to .snd, my NeXT will play about the first 20 seconds, then freeze tight - like power down, crash and burn. Does anybody know a way to get these files to play on a NeXT without such spectacular side effects?? Thanks, C.
From: charlesa@learned.co.uk Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: basic question re: tar.gz files Date: Tue, 21 Dec 93 17:48:05 GMT Organization: EUnet GB Message-ID: <2f7d3i$4cv@marble.Britain.EU.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Okay, I can deal with .tar files, and .tar.Z files, but how do I handle tar.gz? What's the secret of decompressing them? I'm using NS 3.1/I. Thanks! C.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: pvinson@gryphon.laafb.af.mil Subject: Re: OO-Databases Content-Type: text/plain Message-ID: <pvinson.93Dec211012@gryphon> Sender: news@math.fu-berlin.de (Math Department) Organization: Free University of Berlin, Germany References: <2f742f$2dg@bambi.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE> Mime-Version: 1.0 Distribution: fj Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1993 09:01:02 GMT I know that an interface to POET, an object-oriented database using C++, is available for NextStep. I've used it, its pretty good.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Ray_Foss@email.mot.com (Ray Foss) Subject: Examining IPC Status Organization: MOTOROLA Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1993 15:40:12 GMT Message-ID: <1993Dec21.154012.25542@schbbs.mot.com> Keywords: IPC Sender: news@schbbs.mot.com (Net News) Is there any way to examine IPC status in NeXTSTEP? In Unix SVR4 there is an 'ipcstat' command. I could use a pointer to any such tools for the NeXT. Thanks in advance. -- Raymond M. (Ray) Foss Motorola - Distributed Systems Applications Location: IL06-W2214, Voice: (708) 576-2567 --- GDB -- NeXT Release 2.0 (v19) -- GNU version 3.1 Copyright (C) 1988 Free Software Foundation, Inc. There is ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY for GDB; type "info warranty" for details. GDB is free software and you are welcome to distribute copies of it under certain conditions; type "info copying" to see the conditions. Reading symbol data from x... Reading symbol data from /usr/shlib/libsys_s.B.shlib... Reading Objective-C data... done. Type "help" for a list of commands. (gdb) r < r Starting program: x < r sh: privileges disabled because of outstanding IPC access to task sh: privileges disabled because of outstanding IPC access to task /etc/uucp/L.sys (name file) protected sh: privileges disabled because of outstanding IPC access to task sh: privileges disabled because of outstanding IPC access to task /etc/uucp/L.sys (name file) protected Program exited normally. (gdb) q ---
From: Hal.Varian@umich.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: WWW Server under NeXT? Date: 21 Dec 1993 18:04:30 GMT Organization: University of Michigan - College of Literature, Science, and TheArts Distribution: world Message-ID: <2f7dre$ctt@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu> References: <1993Dec21.113916.834@aplki.toppoint.de> > In article <westesCI6ELx.CBx@netcom.com> westes@netcom.com (Will Estes) writes: > > Has anyone ported the World Wide Web server code to NeXT? > GN works fine as a gopher/www server. -- Hal.Varian@umich.edu Hal Varian voice: 313-764-2364 Dept of Economics fax: 313-764-2364 Univ of Michigan Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1220
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: michal@phys.ualberta.ca (Michal Jaegermann) Subject: Re: SpellChecker for the NeXT Message-ID: <1993Dec21.171018.4549@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca Organization: Department of Physics, University of Alberta References: <CID109.8Gr@beach.com> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1993 17:10:18 GMT dpeter@hsd.com (David W. Peter) writes: : In article <2f5991INNi6k@emory.mathcs.emory.edu> : wmorse@erasure-sl.cc.emory.edu (William Morse) writes: : > : > > gjudd@hackatg.demon.co.uk (Graham Judd) writes: : > > Does anyone know of any SpellChecker utility for the NeXT, beit : > > commercial or otherwise. : : Yes, there is, but it doesn't support Danish, Dutch, Finnish, French, : German, Italian, Norwegian, Portuguese, Spanish, Swedish or the : English (U.K. version) that Graham requires... : If you are not afraid to compile something there are two point to note - 'spell' is just a shell script, so you may easily substitute there some other executable (try 'which spell' in Terminal window and see for yourself); - ispell-3.0.9 works very well and is a must if you happen to work with TeX. With ispell you may have any language you want, as long as you will supply word list. Tools for generating hashed dictionaries are included in its distribution. It is true, though, that "word list" can be a problem. Ispell includes lists for English (both with US and British variants) and for German. For other languages you are on your own. Once you have ispell up and running you may get it into Services menu, or do something cool with TickleServices. Note that I am not talking here about ispell 4.0 from GNU. This is NOT the same thing. Michal michal@gortel.phys.ualberta.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bamberg@eecs.wsu.edu (Roberto Bamberger - Faculty) Subject: netboot for NS/FIP Message-ID: <1993Dec21.180958.19016@serval.net.wsu.edu> Sender: news@serval.net.wsu.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Washington State University Date: Tue, 21 Dec 93 18:09:58 GMT Has anyone had success in netbooting NS/FIP from a floppy? If so, how do I go about building the boot floppy? Basically, I want to be able to run NS on some of our Intel machines, but I do not want to purchase a new hard drive to fit NS/FIP on it... I have plenty of disk space available on our UNIX boxes so I can install it there and just netboot (I hope). any help would be greatly appreciated. -robert- -- Dr. Roberto H. Bamberger Office:(509)-335-4053 Assistant Professor FAX:(509)-335-3818 School of Electrical Engineering and Computer Science Washington State University Pullman, WA 99164-2752
From: scott@nic.gac.edu (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Plagued by daemon! (TickleServices) Date: 21 Dec 93 13:18:38 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Message-ID: <SCOTT.93Dec21131838@nic.gac.edu> References: <2enf1e$1u5@crcnis1.unl.edu> <2f1ths$jvl@transfer.stratus.com> In-reply-to: dan@quiensabe.az.stratus.com's message of 19 Dec 1993 15:55:40 GMT In article <2f1ths$jvl@transfer.stratus.com>, dan@quiensabe.az.stratus.com (Dan Danz) writes: >Dan Scott writes >> The problem is that now when I login I get an error beep (well, >> actually the rooster crows...) When I check the console I find >> that it is complaining about not being able to launch a >> TickleServices daemon. So how can I make it stop trying to launch >> this daemon (which no longer exists)? > >dread Workspace LaunchPaths > figure out what you need to keep, but get rid of the TickleServices > daemon >dwrite Workspace LaunchPaths "what you need to keep" > >If you don't have anything else in the LaunchPaths, then dremove >Workspace Launchpaths Dan (Danz) is exactly correct. Note that the recommended way to uninstall TickleServices is to execute the TickleServices.app menu item "Server/Deinstall..." _before_ nuking things. This takes care of _everything_. Anyhow, my main goal with TickleServices was to make it as nearly invisible as possible, which is why it doesn't delete "cleanly". There's a file ~/.NeXT/services/TickleServer that it installs (which is where NeXTSTEP finds out what services TickleServices has to offer at a given time), and Workspace LaunchPaths has the TickleServer.daemon installed in it so that when you login, the daemon is launched and your services are available. "Server/Deinstall..." removes the services file and removes the server from the server from the LaunchPaths "cleanly" (ie, the services cache is regenerated and the rest of the LaunchPaths are left alone, unless there are none in which case the default is deleted). It also removes your TickleServices defaults from the defaults database. I'm working on some better solutions for the next release. One horrid hack would be to have the TickleServer.daemon "watch itself" to see if it gets deleted. If it does, it can pop up a panel and query the user to see if they want to deinstall, or if they just moved things around. That would be sort of cool, I think. [The user deletes TickleServices.app. Then they get this panel saying "Hey! What's up?". Heheh. The possessed computer :-).] One other option which I explored in the past, but didn't work, was to code the "Executable" entry in the services file. Unfortunately, I couldn't get it to work reliably. This was under NS2.1, though, so perhaps it works now. Unfortunately, that has certain drawbacks which make it undesirable (moving and deleting are still problems, just in a different way). Another last option would be to use some of the changes in the NS3.0 services handling to allow TickleServices to get around requiring the ~/.NeXT/services file and the LaunchPaths entry, though I'm not quite certain yet whether this will be doable. In any case, I'm working on it ... Later, -- scott hess <scott@nic.gac.edu> <I can handle NeXTMail, but don't like it> 12901 Upton Avenue South, #326 Burnsville, MN 55337 (612) 895-1208 Anytime! <C++: ... One Language to bring them all and in the darkness bind them> <In the Land of Redmond where the Shadows lie.>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,alt.usage.english From: geoff@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Geoff Kuenning) Subject: Re: SpellChecker for the NeXT Followup-To: alt.usage.english References: <2f5991INNi6k@emory.mathcs.emory.edu> <CID109.8Gr@beach.com> Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department Message-ID: <1993Dec21.200353.17197@cs.ucla.edu> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 93 20:03:53 GMT None of the following is intended to detract from David's main point, which is that the standard NeXT spellchecker sometimes makes absolutely ridiculous suggestions. (Incidentally, if you type one of those suggestions, the spellchecker *will* accept the misspelling in the next pass. At least they're consistent. :-) In article <CID109.8Gr@beach.com> dpeter@hsd.com writes: > Oh, and just for fun, try checking the spelling of these _properly > spelled_ words using the spell checker built-in to NeXTSTEP, paying > close attention to the _incorrect_ suggestions it makes: ... > Spellchecker > Underwhelming > Wacked > Asshole "Spellchecker" is *NOT* a correctly-spelled word. It's a concatenation of two correct words. Unlike German, it's not generally OK in English to just coin a new word by concatenating two old ones, especially when the old ones will do just fine as they stand, or hyphenated. "Underwhelm" is of course the famous coinage from "I was underwhelmed"; I believe it was an American movie actress who came up with it upon meeting a famous personage, but I couldn't find it in the Quotations application so I'm not sure. There is no definition in the cs.indiana.edu Webster server or the American Heritage Dictionary, but the NeXT Webster lists it and gives it as dating from 1949, certainly sufficiently old that it ought to be everywhere. Is "wacked" really a correctly-spelled word? If you're referring to the past tense of "whack", to strike with a smart or resounding blow, then it's "whacked". If you're talking about the phrase "totally w[h]acked out", I guess it depends on whether you consider it a word related to "wacky", amusingly absurd or irrational, which is derived from "whack", or directly related to "whack". I couldn't find "wacked" in any of the three dictionaries listed above. BTW, the ispell 3.1 dictionary doesn't recognize the first three above either. I'll probably add "underwhelm" and its variants when I get home tonight. I won't add "wacked" unless and until I become convinced it's a correct spelling of common usage, especially because it would hide typos for "whacked". And "spellchecker" will never make it into the ispell dictionaries so long as I maintain them (except possibly for the German version :-). (No, ispell 3.1 hasn't been released yet, but watch comp.text.tex and comp.sys.next.software, among others, for an announcement.) I guess this really belongs in alt.usage.english, so I've crossposted and redirected followups there. Alt.usage.english readers who want to argue with me about the above statements should e-mail me, since I don't normally read that group. -- Geoff Kuenning geoff@maui.cs.ucla.edu geoff@ITcorp.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: geoff@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Geoff Kuenning) Subject: Re: SpellChecker for the NeXT References: <CID109.8Gr@beach.com> <1993Dec21.171018.4549@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department Message-ID: <1993Dec21.201158.17391@cs.ucla.edu> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 93 20:11:58 GMT In article <1993Dec21.171018.4549@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> michal@phys.ualberta.ca writes: > Once you have ispell up and running you may get it into Services menu, > or do something cool with TickleServices. The "internationalspell" package by Moritz Willers will make ispell's dictionaries an option in the standard spelling-check window. It can be found on cs.orst.edu in pub/next/binaries/util/internationalspell.tar.gz. It will also be included with the ispell 3.1 distribution when that comes out (please don't bug me with questions about when or where, thank you). -- Geoff Kuenning geoff@maui.cs.ucla.edu geoff@ITcorp.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: cowboy@omega.csuohio.edu (Joe Rosenfeld) Subject: Re: GatorFTP(+) authors... Intel doesn't work Message-ID: <1993Dec21.202234.4212@news.csuohio.edu> Sender: news@news.csuohio.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Cleveland State University References: <manenber.93Dec1752544@ibis.ccmail.com> <2f7c3b$4cv@marble.Britain.EU.net> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1993 20:22:34 GMT charlesa@learned.co.uk wrote: : In article <manenber.93Dec1752544@ibis.ccmail.com>, <manenber@ibis.ccmail.com> : > : > To the authors of GatorFTP or GatorFTP+ : : > : > The NS/Intel version of Gator FTP+ crashes everytime you try and transfer and : files. : > : I get the same problem. Just to let you know that Mark's problem seems : widespread. Me, too. Though ONCE I did get a file to transfer through, then it aborted. -- | Joe Rosenfeld j.rosenfeld@csuohio.edu | Automation Librarian (216) 687-6881 [FAX] | CSU Law Library trans.csuohio.edu [ANON FTP] | NeXTMail and MIME ok
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com Subject: Re: FrameMaker 'Style sheets' for NeXT style documentation? Message-ID: <1993Dec20.034900.8611@hot.com> Sender: robertl@hot.com Organization: Hot Technologies References: <2et4tf$bap@digifix.digifix.com> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1993 03:49:00 GMT Hot Technologies has a soon to be released product called "ManualBuilder" which allows you to easily create NEXTSTEP reference manuals. Send e-mail or NEXTMAIL to info@hot.com for more information. Robert La Ferla Hot Technologies In article <2et4tf$bap@digifix.digifix.com> sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) writes: > Does anyone have any FrameMaker style sheets, so that I can make my > documentation look like NeXTs? > > -- > - Scott Anguish - > sanguish@digifix.com (NextMail) > next-announce@digifix.com (comp.sys.next.announce submissions) >
Message-ID: <|o%@byu.edu> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 93 15:45:48 MST From: pmarc@zapotec.math.byu.edu (Paul Marshall Cardon II) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Utilities to send MIME and NeXTMail from command line? References: <westesCIDHCp.B3G@netcom.com> In article <westesCIDHCp.B3G@netcom.com> westes@netcom.com (Will Estes) writes: > I'm looking for UNIX command-line utilities that will take as their > argument a binary file, and produce from that either NeXTMail or > MIME mail. What's out there to do this? I don't know about MIME, but if you dig around either cs.orst.edu or sonata.cc.purdue.edu you'll find tnextmail in one of the 2.x directories under comm or something like that. I can next-mail it to you if you want. Paul Cardon
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: westes@netcom.com (Will Estes) Subject: Saving mail as ASCII text? Message-ID: <westesCIEpBG.KHw@netcom.com> Organization: Mail Group Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1993 22:33:15 GMT I apologize for a very dumb question, but how do I save NeXTMail as an ASCII text file? Amazingly, there is no File | Save As command. -- Will Estes Internet: westes@netcom.com
From: rlion@access.digex.net (rebel lion) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Doom NeXT vs. Doom DOS Date: 21 Dec 1993 18:23:09 -0500 Organization: Rebellion System, Alexandria, VA Message-ID: <rlion.756516088@access> References: <CICs57.H64@freenet.carleton.ca> <1993Dec21.080954.2205@seer.demon.co.uk> >And to contradict just this post: Doom is available only for NeXTSTEP on >Intel hardware (apart from the DOS version). >Paul Lynch >P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk doom is only available for NS/i? why is this? there are a whole lot of people on motorola boxes (ok, 50,000...) but still, recompiling or compiling it FAT isn't that hard, why only on intel? -- rebel lion (rlion@access.digex.net) (alpha pager: (704) 356-3140) =-= finger my account for computer stuff i have forsale =-= void life() { aint_nothing(but_a,good->groove);
From: M.Crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk (Malcolm Crawford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: SoundWorks, still available? Date: 21 Dec 1993 17:26:02 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9312212326.AA07166@dcs.shef.ac.uk> Does anybody know if MetaResearch is still in business? If so, how to cantact them? They're not in the third Party Apps Catalog, and I only have very old ('91!) contact info, like a 'phone number I'd rather not call long-distance to find it's changed... :-) I'm particularly interested in the SoundWorks collection of objects etc... if anybody can give me any details of those, or similar... Have fun, mmalcolm. --- SHeffield Auditory Group | Vox : (+44) 742 768555 ext 5569 Dept. Computer Science | direct : 825569 Sheffield University | Fax : (+44) 742 780972 Regent Court | Email: malc@dcs.shef.ac.uk 211 Portobello Street | (NeXTMail welcome) Sheffield S1 4DP, UK. | (Read-Receipts discouraged :-)
From: annard@theborg.stack.urc.tue.nl (Annard Brouwer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Associating man pages with an app? Date: 21 Dec 1993 21:16:38 GMT Organization: the Borg Distribution: world Message-ID: <2f7p3m$as@theborg.stack.urc.tue.nl> References: <westesCICyDz.Dpx@netcom.com> In article <westesCICyDz.Dpx@netcom.com> westes@netcom.com (Will Estes) writes: > I would like to set things up so that any file with the template *.? > is processed as a man page automatically when I double click on it > (nroff format). How do I set up this association? What is the best > nroff command to issue against such files? > This is a bit of a problem with NEXTSTEP (IMHO). The two solutions are as follows: 1) either registrate the file types .{1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9}{m,l,x,<other letter>} within your project; 2) or make your file the default application for unknown file types and use the UNIX `file' command to see if you are dealing with a nroff file. For my application I'm running into the same problem and I think I'm going to use the second option with a user-setting that my application will only be the default open application if it is running (because sometimes you want to open unknown files in Emacs or Edit). The best nroff command to use for this can be found in the /NextLibrary/Documentation/ManPages directory: .displayCommand. I would like NeXT to enhance the file command so you can register your application to open files of a certain type (without a specific suffix). I would also like NeXT to enhance DL, because it would be very convenient for my application if I could ask DL to open files through my application. Toodlepip, Annard -- Give me enough bandwidth and I can transmit the earth. - Annard Brouwer annard@stack.urc.tue.nl (NeXTmail appreciated)
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) Newsgroups: alt.3d,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Renderman books? Message-ID: <Dec.21.20.09.36.1993.8142@gandalf.rutgers.edu> Date: 22 Dec 93 01:09:37 GMT Followup-To: alt.3d Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J. Hi All, I'm looking for a good renderman book that will teach me about the language, rib files, etc. I want to learn about the whole enchalada :) Any/All help will be appreciated. Later, John
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: westes@netcom.com (Will Estes) Subject: Marking a data file as binary? Message-ID: <westesCIEvzL.8yB@netcom.com> Organization: Mail Group Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1993 00:57:20 GMT I uncompressed a file (.Z) that I know contains a binary. The problem is that it was marked as ASCII text. I have confirmed that it is not a tar file, and it is definitely binary data. I think it is a binary ready to run; how do I flag it as such to NeXTSTEP? -- Will Estes Internet: westes@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bestor@caracal.cs.wisc.edu (Gareth Bestor) Subject: Update: Doom for NeXT! Message-ID: <1993Dec22.012347.20909@cs.wisc.edu> Sender: news@cs.wisc.edu (The News) Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept. Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1993 01:23:47 GMT I though I'd share what little I know about Doom for NeXT h/w in effort to inform others and cut down the number of postings complaining why it isn't available and what's taking so damn long. Personally, it makes a nice change for a software company not to hype about their product before its done. Here's what they told me: Nov 30 >|> Any chance of a black version for us NeXT owners out there? Please!!!!! > Yep, one is on the way. There is still a bit more coding for the black > hardware beta. Dec 13 > DOOM for black hardware coming soon! > We're doing some optimizing for speed. Dec 15 >|> Any chance of Santa dropping it in my Christmas stocking > Probably not for Christmas Send questions about id Software to help@idsoftware.com (NeXTmail OK). So just sit back, be patient and enjoy the holidays - Doom/FMP will be here soon. - Gareth Disclaimer: No affiliation to Id except as an eager (but patient) future customer. Apologies: Sorry to the folks at Id if they'd rather I hadn't posted this, but the current mis-information about Doom is getting tiresome.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch) Subject: Re: Raise RDP Exception Message-ID: <1993Dec22.001658.3846@seer.demon.co.uk> Sender: paul@seer.demon.co.uk Organization: P & L Systems References: <2f7ce8$4cv@marble.Britain.EU.net> Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1993 00:16:58 GMT In article <2f7ce8$4cv@marble.Britain.EU.net> charlesa@learned.co.uk writes: > In article <9312181825.AA08226@cantina.lanl.gov>, <silbar@cantina.lanl.gov> > writes: > > Wes Spears writes: > > I have been getting this error. > > > > Raise RDP exception 6 Code 3 subcode 0 > > Waiting for RDP connection. > > > I also get this, only during a BOOT, though. I happens about 20%- 25% of the > time. The RDP error always seems to occur when the boot process fails to reset > the SCSI bus. > > I'm also using NS3.1, on an Intel GX workstation with an Adaptec 1542 > controller. > > The only way I've found to get around this is to hit the reset button, then it > resets the SCSI bus just fine and no RDP errors. A bit nerve-racking, > though. > > I, too, would like to know if this is fixed in 3.2 (BEFORE I spend the $$$). > My NeXT vender wouldn't even acknolodge the problem. The RDP error is just a catch all NeXT message telling you that a panic has occurred. The real error you have is different from whatever Wes has, in all probablility. A number of NeXTSTEP/Intel systems (not just the GX/Pro), in my experience, suffer from random SCSI reset errors. It seems to occur only with certain ethernet cards. I never did enough experimentation to isolate the problem; some machines did it, and swapping to a different machine (of the same make) would usually make it go away. Paul -- Paul Lynch P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk Tel: (0494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green, Fax: (0494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: titmouse!bshirley (C. William Shirley) Subject: Simple Schedule Cost Management Message-ID: <1993Dec22.025727.1295@gleap.jpunix.com> Sender: bshirley@gleap.jpunix.com Organization: The Republic of Texas Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1993 02:57:27 GMT Does anyone know of a *simple* NeXTSTEP program around somewhere to feed workschedule data into that will allow you to do some cost analysis on a project. Generally I want to do it by the week. Purchase is a possibility. Connecting up to Mesa is OK. ex. joe proj A task H 40 hours jane proj B task M 30 hours jane proj C task H 10 hours john proj B task N 40 hours .... email or post. -bill -- Home: BShirley@GLeap.sccsi.com Houston Work: Bill_Shirley@atg.WilTel.com v713.364.4124
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore) Subject: Re: Saving mail as ASCII text? Message-ID: <CIF2ty.4AL@genoa.com> Sender: alex@genoa.com (Alex Blakemore) Organization: Genoa Software Systems References: <westesCIEpBG.KHw@netcom.com> Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1993 03:25:10 GMT Will Estes writes > I apologize for a very dumb question, but how do I save NeXTMail as > an ASCII text file? Amazingly, there is no File | Save As command. but there is no need for one. look under the services->edit menu. -- Alex Blakemore alex@cs.umd.edu NeXT mail accepted
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: pett@ucsf.edu (Eric Pettersen) Subject: Re: Doom NeXT vs. Doom DOS Message-ID: <CIF7x9.333@cgl.ucsf.edu> Sender: news@cgl.ucsf.edu (USENET News System) Organization: UCSF Computer Graphics Lab References: <rlion.756516088@access> Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1993 05:15:09 GMT rebel lion writes > > >And to contradict just this post: Doom is available only for NeXTSTEP on > >Intel hardware (apart from the DOS version). > > >Paul Lynch > >P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk > > > doom is only available for NS/i? why is this? there are a whole lot of > people on motorola boxes (ok, 50,000...) but still, recompiling or > compiling it FAT isn't that hard, why only on intel? > Almost undoubtedly, large sections of DOOM are coded in assembler, which can easily be linked in as a library on Intel, but not Motorola. -- Eric Pettersen pett@cgl.ucsf.edu (NeXTmail capable)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: sean@shiloh.nimh.nih.gov (Sean Graham) Subject: Multiple OS Install Message-ID: <sean-221293013335@128.231.99.239> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software Sender: postman@alw.nih.gov (AMDS Postmaster) Organization: a good idea Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1993 06:33:35 GMT I've installed NS/FIP 3.1 on my DOS computer leaving a small (50MB) partition for DOS, to which I can boot to. I'd now like to install OS/2 to another partition that's never been touched (100MB). I don't want to install OS/2's Boot Manager (and it's related BM partition) because I'd like to keep NeXT's BM. I tried DOS's FDISK to set the untouched partition to Active, and tried to install OS/2, but it wouldn't install on that partition, and wanted to install on the DOS partition. So how do I do this? Which FDISK (DOS/NeXT/OS/2) do I use and what do I set the untouched partition to? I'd like to just boot off the OS/2 install disk and install to the untouched partition (formatting it in the process). If anyone has any pointers, or archived articles on Multiple OS installs, if you could post/email it I'd appreciate any hints/help. -- sean n. graham nih bethesda, md sean@shiloh.nimh.nih.gov
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: westes@netcom.com (Will Estes) Subject: App not executable by other than root Message-ID: <westesCIFCMJ.6HF@netcom.com> Organization: Mail Group Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1993 06:56:42 GMT I'm having a problem getting users other than root to be able to execute programs that root puts out on disk. I logged in as root and put a few apps, such as the terminal emulator Stuart.App into /usr/local/bin. I think put a symbolc link onto all of those apps in /LocalApps. I verified that groups and other have read or read+execute privileges on all files in all subirectories for those apps. When I execute those apps logged in as root, I have no problem. When I log in as some other user, I can only see the icons correctly for some of the apps, and the ones whose icons appear correctly start to execute and then disappear. What did I fail to do right? Probably there is some registration database for apps that does not have the right permission settings? -- Will Estes Internet: westes@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: todd@atlas.cb.att.com (Todd Chamberlain) Subject: pdksh on NeXT Organization: AT&T Bell Labs Distribution: na Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1993 20:03:09 GMT Message-ID: <TODD.93Dec21150309@atlas.cb.att.com> Sender: news@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (NetNews Administrator) Has anyone successfully compiled pdksh on the NeXT (Motorolla)? I have tried zsh, but I had some problems with it and so was wondering about pdksh. Please send mail directly to me and I will summarize the responses (if any). Thanks, Todd -- Todd Chamberlain Phone: +1 614 860-4473 AT&T Bell Laboratories Fax: +1 614 868-3315 6200 East Broad Street Email: todd@atlas.att.com Columbus, OH 43213 Room: 2C224 CB
From: glenn@rightbrain.com (Glenn Reid) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: SpellChecker for the NeXT Message-ID: <1430@rtbrain.rightbrain.com> Date: 22 Dec 93 08:30:24 GMT References: <1993Dec21.200353.17197@cs.ucla.edu> Sender: glenn@rightbrain.com Geoff Kuenning writes > None of the following is intended to detract from David's main point, > which is that the standard NeXT spellchecker sometimes makes > absolutely ridiculous suggestions. (Incidentally, if you type one of > those suggestions, the spellchecker *will* accept the misspelling in > the next pass. At least they're consistent. :-) The worst thing a spell checker can do is to accept misspelled words. Thinking things are misspelled that are in fact OK is much better behavior. > "Spellchecker" is *NOT* a correctly-spelled word. > "Underwhelm" is ... not in the American Heritage Dictionary ... > Is "wacked" really a correctly-spelled word? I think you missed the point. Dave wasn't suggesting that they were correctly spelled, just that the suggestions were bogus. The really important (and bad) thing about this is that the suggested corrections are apparently in the list of CORRECTLY spelled words, which they shouldn't be. This means that if you happen to have "asshozle" in your document (I use that word a lot in Email :-) the spell checker *won't* flag it as a misspelled word. Go figure. > I guess this really belongs in alt.usage.english, so I've crossposted > and redirected followups there. Not really; it's a discussion of NeXT's spell checker, and I don't think anybody has suggested that "underwhelm" and "wacked" are words. As long as we're on the subject, I've recently taken to expressing decidedly neutral reviews along the same lines, by removing prefixes. For example, "I was whelmed," or "His hat was describable". There are lots of them, once you get started :-) -- Glenn Reid glenn@rightbrain.com Woodside, California
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch) Subject: Re: Doom NeXT vs. Doom DOS Message-ID: <1993Dec22.085718.4824@seer.demon.co.uk> Sender: paul@seer.demon.co.uk Organization: P & L Systems References: <rlion.756516088@access> Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1993 08:57:18 GMT In article <rlion.756516088@access> rlion@access.digex.net (rebel lion) writes: > > >And to contradict just this post: Doom is available only for NeXTSTEP on > >Intel hardware (apart from the DOS version). > > >Paul Lynch > >P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk > > > doom is only available for NS/i? why is this? there are a whole lot of > people on motorola boxes (ok, 50,000...) but still, recompiling or > compiling it FAT isn't that hard, why only on intel? I understand that there is a lot of assembler code in it. Paul -- Paul Lynch P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk Tel: (0494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green, Fax: (0494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch) Subject: Re: Saving mail as ASCII text? Message-ID: <1993Dec22.090207.4906@seer.demon.co.uk> Sender: paul@seer.demon.co.uk Organization: P & L Systems References: <westesCIEpBG.KHw@netcom.com> Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1993 09:02:07 GMT In article <westesCIEpBG.KHw@netcom.com> westes@netcom.com (Will Estes) writes: > I apologize for a very dumb question, but how do I save NeXTMail as > an ASCII text file? Amazingly, there is no File | Save As command. Try Services->Edit->Save Message Looking in the Services menu is always a good idea; if you can't find what you want, a copy of Tickle Services from the archives (shareware) will expand your options considerably. Paul -- Paul Lynch P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk Tel: (0494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green, Fax: (0494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
Control: cancel <westesCIEvzL.8yB@netcom.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: westes@netcom.com (Will Estes) Subject: cancel <westesCIEvzL.8yB@netcom.com> Message-ID: <westesCIFM4r.3IF@netcom.com> Organization: Mail Group Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1993 10:22:03 GMT Article cancelled from within tin [v1.2 PL1] -- Will Estes Internet: westes@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: rob@brewster.demon.co.uk (Robert Alan Heyes) Subject: Re: Multiple OS Install References: <sean-221293013335@128.231.99.239> Organization: Kallisti Systems Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1993 12:46:36 +0000 Message-ID: <756564396snz@brewster.demon.co.uk> Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk In article <sean-221293013335@128.231.99.239> sean@shiloh.nimh.nih.gov "Sean Graham" writes: > I've installed NS/FIP 3.1 on my DOS computer leaving a small (50MB) > partition for DOS, to which I can boot to. I'd now like to install OS/2 to > another partition that's never been touched (100MB). I don't want to > install OS/2's Boot Manager (and it's related BM partition) because I'd > like to keep NeXT's BM. You can have both! > I tried DOS's FDISK to set the untouched partition to Active, and tried to > install OS/2, but it wouldn't install on that partition, and wanted to > install on the DOS partition. I just booted from the install disks and chose the `advanced' options, you can then select which partition to make installable. > So how do I do this? Which FDISK (DOS/NeXT/OS/2) do I use and what do I > set the untouched partition to? I'd like to just boot off the OS/2 install Make it installable. > disk and install to the untouched partition (formatting it in the process). > If anyone has any pointers, or archived articles on Multiple OS installs, > if you could post/email it I'd appreciate any hints/help. I *would* recommend setting aside a 1Mb partition for the OS/2 boot manager though. Have a look in the OS/2 Installation Guide, Appendix C, Example 3. -- Robert Alan Heyes
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: rob@brewster.demon.co.uk (Robert Alan Heyes) Subject: Re: Marking a data file as binary? References: <westesCIEvzL.8yB@netcom.com> Organization: Kallisti Systems Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1993 12:36:01 +0000 Message-ID: <756563761snz@brewster.demon.co.uk> Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk In article <westesCIEvzL.8yB@netcom.com> westes@netcom.com "Will Estes" writes: > I uncompressed a file (.Z) that I know contains a binary. The > problem is that it was marked as ASCII text. I have confirmed that > it is not a tar file, and it is definitely binary data. I think it > is a binary ready to run; how do I flag it as such to NeXTSTEP? How about chmod +x filetobeflagged -- Robert Alan Heyes
From: silbar@cantina.lanl.gov (Dick Silbar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Saving mail as ASCII text? Date: 22 Dec 1993 10:24:30 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9312221625.AA01325@cantina.lanl.gov> Alex Blakemore wrote: Will Estes writes > I apologize for a very dumb question, but how do I save NeXTMail as > an ASCII text file? Amazingly, there is no File | Save As command. but there is no need for one. look under the services->edit menu. -- Yet, when I tried that, using Save Selection, on a piece of pure Courier font, it saved as RTF. Dick Silbar WhistleSoft, Inc.
From: M.Crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk (Malcolm Crawford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: SoundWorks, still available? Date: 22 Dec 1993 10:49:40 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9312221650.AA09440@dcs.shef.ac.uk> Thanks to all for replies: The most recent information came from Marek Roland-Mieszkowski, who informed me that Metaresearch wrote him a letter me several day ago giving their their new address as: Metaresearch, Inc. 9220 SW Barbur Bvd. #119 Portland, OR 97219 Voice: (503) 227-3733 Fax: (503) 248-4131 although I am also assured that (503) 238-5728 worked recently. To contact them by Email the consensus is to try Chris Hallstrom chris@metaresearch.com which I will do next. Re Soundworks itself, Jim Beauchamp tells me that "Sound Works is selling in the 'States for $245 (ed discount). Their 3.0 version has many new features and works under both the Motorola and Intel NeXTStep 3.x". Someone else, however, tells me that 3.0 includes many new bugs to accompany the new features... I'll see what Chris says! Have fun, mmalcolm.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: gjudd@hackatg.demon.co.uk (Graham Judd) Subject: Re: SpellChecker for the NeXT Message-ID: <1993Dec22.164154.9260@hackatg.demon.co.uk> Sender: gjudd@hackatg.demon.co.uk Organization: Hackwood Service Company References: <1993Dec16.111722.14237@hackatg.demon.co.uk> Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1993 16:41:54 GMT Thanks to everybody who responded via this group or via email. Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. Graham -- Graham Judd gjudd@hackatg.demon.co.uk [work, NeXTMail OK] Technical Consultant gjudd@siward.demon.co.uk [home, No NeXTMail] Advanced Technology Group Hackwood Service Co +44 71 606 7080 voice 59-67 Gresham St +44 71 606 5113 fax London -- Graham Judd gjudd@hackatg.demon.co.uk [work, NeXTMail OK] Technical Consultant gjudd@siward.demon.co.uk [home, No NeXTMail] Advanced Technology Group Hackwood Service Co +44 71 606 7080 voice
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software From: jpowell@borg.lib.vt.edu (James Powell) Subject: Using "Black" HSD scanner with INTEL Message-ID: <G4BKBI4F@math.fu-berlin.de> Sender: news@math.fu-berlin.de (Math Department) Organization: Newman Library, Virginia Tech Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1993 18:15:22 GMT I have a Scan-X color scanner from HSD that was purchased about a year ago. I would like to move this scanner from the Nextstation to which it is currently attached to a 486 clone running Nextstep for Intel. Is this possible? Is there a driver for this scanner available? I would like to hear from anyone who has tried to do this. Thanks. -- James Powell - Library Automation, University Libraries, VPI&SU jpowell@borg.lib.vt.edu - NeXTMail welcome here Owner of VPIEJ-L, a discussion list for Electronic Journals Archives: http://borg.lib.vt.edu:80/ gopher://borg.lib.vt.edu:70/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) Subject: Re: Saving mail as ASCII text? Message-ID: <1993Dec22.185131.19148@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> Sender: news@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (NetNews) Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany References: <9312221625.AA01325@cantina.lanl.gov> Date: Wed, 22 Dec 93 18:51:31 GMT : Yet, when I tried that, using Save Selection, on a piece of pure Courier : font, it saved as RTF. Yes, that's true. Mail.app always tries to save the selection (or the message) as an RTF file. Propably because in the file viewer even an ASCII message is displayed in an RTF-like style, should say e.g. you can change to a proportional font. It's very annoying since it makes extracting e.g. uudecoded files in non-NeXT-Mail messages even harder. Possible solution suggestion for NeXT: why not have a nice icon in the corner of the .mbox window that represents the currently selected mail(s) (have a look at Librarian.app, it works there). Should be only little work for NeXT, but a great step for the Mail.app ;-) Gregor | Gregor Hoffleit admin MATHInet / contact HeidelNeXT | | MAIL: Mathematisches Institut PHONE: (49)6221 56-5771 | | INF 288, 69120 Heidelberg / Germany FAX: 56-3812 | | EMAIL: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (NeXTmail) |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software From: herbst@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (robert.s.herbst) Subject: CDPlayer App Organization: AT&T Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1993 18:35:47 GMT Message-ID: <CIG906.Jtu@cbnewsj.cb.att.com> Followup-To: poster Keywords: CDPlayer App NS3.2/Black Hi, I read a few contradicting articles regarding whether or not the CDplayer.app is included with 3.2/Motorola. I installed 3.2 User & Developer on my NeXTstation last night, I do not see it anywhere. First, should it have installed (is it included in this release?) If so, why didn't it install?? BTW, I did not do an upgrade, I did a complete install?? Thanks in advance, Bob -- ============================================================== Bob Herbst Tel: (908)957-6507 AT&T Bell Labs E-mail: bobh@mtketc1.att.com Middletown, NJ
From: yygold@yadin.phyast.pitt.edu (Yadin Y. Goldschmidt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: WWW (I don't get it) Message-ID: <10529@blue.cis.pitt.edu> Date: 22 Dec 93 18:45:47 GMT References: <CIDAAt.3s1@news2.cis.umn.edu> Sender: news+@pitt.edu jimbo@oingo.umn.edu wrote: : Just got the new WWW and all I get is "Overview of the Web". I set : the dwrite WorldWideWeb NewsHost xxxx to my news server but I dont get : anything more. Is this just a demo?? : --- : -------------------------------------------------------------------- : James P. Klett klett@sunrayce.solar.umn.edu : jimbo@oingo.umn.edu (SLIP) : -------------------------------------------------------------------- : Slip Slipping' away... : -------------------------------------------------------------------- There is a way to make the news reader work. In spite of what they say dwrite does not work. Do the following: Even if you do not use rn ( a newsreader program) create a directory /usr/local/lib/rn with an editor create a file named 'server' with the address of your local NNTP server in it and save the file to the directory /usr/local/lib/rn. Your news reader will work now from within www. Best, Yadin.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore) Subject: Re: SpellChecker for the NeXT Message-ID: <CIG6LJ.55J@genoa.com> Sender: alex@genoa.com (Alex Blakemore) Organization: Genoa Software Systems References: <1430@rtbrain.rightbrain.com> Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1993 17:44:07 GMT Glenn Reid writes > The worst thing a spell checker can do is to accept misspelled > words. Thinking things are misspelled that are in fact OK is > much better behavior. The really important (and bad) thing about > this is that the suggested corrections are apparently in the list > of CORRECTLY spelled words, which they shouldn't be. just for reference, take a look at one of the Jon Bentley's programming pearls books (the first one I think). He gives a good description of the design of a simple fast spell checker that is very economical in terms of memory. He gets a vast improvement in simplicity and memory requirements, by allowing a very very small percentage of false positives (misspelled words that are not caught by the spell checker). There are times when this is the right tradeoff. -- Alex Blakemore alex@cs.umd.edu NeXT mail accepted
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: titmouse!bshirley (C. William Shirley) Subject: Re: Simple Schedule Cost Management / Electronic Timecards Message-ID: <1993Dec22.183112.3144@gleap.jpunix.com> Sender: bshirley@gleap.jpunix.com Organization: The Republic of Texas References: <1993Dec22.025727.1295@gleap.jpunix.com> Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1993 18:31:12 GMT In article <1993Dec22.025727.1295@gleap.jpunix.com> titmouse!bshirley (C. William Shirley) writes: > Does anyone know of a *simple* NeXTSTEP program around somewhere to feed > workschedule data into that will allow you to do some cost analysis on a > project. OK, I don't think I described this very well (sond like a user?). I don't really want a project management tool. I want an electronic timecard app. Users could enter the time worked on certain projects. The secretary could collate them into the breakdowns by task. > Generally I want to do it by the week. > Purchase is a possibility. > Connecting up to Mesa is OK. > > > ex. > > joe proj A task H 40 hours > jane proj B task M 30 hours > jane proj C task H 10 hours > john proj B task N 40 hours > > .... > > email or post. > > -bill -- Home: BShirley@GLeap.sccsi.com Houston Work: Bill_Shirley@atg.WilTel.com v713.364.4124
From: cjp+@pitt.edu (Casimir J Palowitch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Saving mail as ASCII text? Message-ID: <10544@blue.cis.pitt.edu> Date: 22 Dec 93 20:04:31 GMT References: <9312221625.AA01325@cantina.lanl.gov> Sender: news+@pitt.edu Organization: University of Pittsburgh In article <9312221625.AA01325@cantina.lanl.gov> silbar@cantina.lanl.gov (Dick Silbar) writes: >Alex Blakemore wrote: > after Will Estes wrote > > I apologize for a very dumb question, but how do I save NeXTMail as > > an ASCII text file? Amazingly, there is no File | Save As command. >but there is no need for one. >look under the services->edit menu. >Yet, when I tried that, using Save Selection, on a piece of pure Courier >font, it saved as RTF. You more than likely need to set your Preferences in Edit. On the User Options, it allows you to choose what format to open new documents in. It makes sense that you need to have this set to ASCII. -- ** Casey Palowitch - cjp+@pitt.edu Networked Information Services ** ** U. of Pittsburgh Library Systems Technical Services ** ** "Gopher: the table of contents, WAIS: the index, ** ** WWW: the pages themselves." -- Brewster Kahle **
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: streib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Allan M. Streib) Subject: Diagram! question Message-ID: <CIGEx6.5uG@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> Keywords: diagram lighthouse Sender: news@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Indiana University Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1993 20:43:54 GMT I have Lighthouse Design's Diagram! running under NS 2.1 on a mono slab. If I create a polygon by connecting several points with lines, can I then get Diagram! to treat it as a symbol? Specifically, when I select this group of points and lines, I want the Inspector to let me set fill, shadow, and outline colors. Maybe what I'm really asking is how to create new symbols that are not on the default pallete. (I bought the Edu. version and only have the online help-- no other documentation) Many thanks for any help! -Allan
Newsgroups: alt.3d,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc From: Willy Amazing <adams@adamation.com> Subject: Re: Renderman books? Message-ID: <CIGCsr.DHH@taligent.com> Sender: usenet@taligent.com (More Bytes Than You Can Read) Organization: Adamation References: <Dec.21.20.09.36.1993.8142@gandalf.rutgers.edu> Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1993 19:58:02 GMT In article <Dec.21.20.09.36.1993.8142@gandalf.rutgers.edu> John Kheit, kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu writes: > I'm looking for a good renderman book that will teach me about the >language, rib files, etc. I want to learn about the whole enchalada :) > Any/All help will be appreciated. The Renderman Companion is a good book to start with. Actually, it's the only one that I've seen myself. (Addison Wesley, Steve Upstill). You might be able to write to Pixar or even NeXT and find out if they have more or can give out more reference material.
From: lje0106@sigma.tamu.edu (Louis J. Everett) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: PKunzip on SoftPC - Next Black Date: 22 Dec 1993 23:09:33 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX Distribution: world Message-ID: <2fak3d$o2o@news.tamu.edu> I have tried running pkunzip inside softpc on a next black. Each time the softpc session does an illegal instruction and quits. My pkunzip runs fine on regular DOS machines. Is there an incompatibility with pkunzip and softpc, or should I suspect a bad copy of pkunzip? -- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Louis Everett lje0106@sigma.tamu.edu NeXT mail welcome
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: westes@netcom.com (Will Estes) Subject: Re: Saving mail as ASCII text? Message-ID: <westesCIGMoB.A2B@netcom.com> Organization: Mail Group References: <9312221625.AA01325@cantina.lanl.gov> <1993Dec22.185131.19148@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1993 23:31:23 GMT Gregor Hoffleit (flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de) wrote: : : Yet, when I tried that, using Save Selection, on a piece of pure Courier : : font, it saved as RTF. : Yes, that's true. Mail.app always tries to save the selection (or the : message) as an RTF file. Propably because in the file viewer even an ASCII : message is displayed in an RTF-like style, should say e.g. you can change to a : proportional font. One solution is to make the default save format for the editor ASCII. See Info | Preferences for the editor. -- Will Estes Internet: westes@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com (Ron Pomeroy x(Coop)) Subject: Re: Diagram! question Message-ID: <CIGnKJ.ELu@dvorak.amd.com> Sender: news@dvorak.amd.com (Usenet News) Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin TX References: <CIGEx6.5uG@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> Distribution: usa Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1993 23:50:42 GMT In article <CIGEx6.5uG@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> streib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Allan M. Streib) writes: >>I have Lighthouse Design's Diagram! running under NS 2.1 on a mono >>slab. If I create a polygon by connecting several points with lines, >>can I then get Diagram! to treat it as a symbol? Specifically, when I >>select this group of points and lines, I want the Inspector to let me >>set fill, shadow, and outline colors. >> >>Maybe what I'm really asking is how to create new symbols that are not >>on the default palette. (I bought the Edu. version and only have the >>online help-- no other documentation) >> >>Many thanks for any help! >> >>-Allan >> As far as I know you cannot extend the types of symbols (i.e. the kind you can type in, set shadow, style etc... This capability would be a welcome addition in Diagram!3.0. Hey, incredable Lighthouse dudes, you listening ? -- Ronald Pomeroy Advanced Micro Devices CAM Applications Group rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: willi@infoman.com Subject: Re: Raise RDP Exception Message-ID: <1993Dec22.150205.1531@infoman.com> Sender: root@infoman.com (Operator) Organization: Information Management Inc. References: <2f7ce8$4cv@marble.Britain.EU.net> Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1993 15:02:05 GMT I get the same error, except I get it usually about once a week and its usually after I have been working for several hours. I hope this can be fixed. If anyone has any information about what could be causing this, I would appreciate the info. - willi willi@infoman.com In article <2f7ce8$4cv@marble.Britain.EU.net> charlesa@learned.co.uk writes: > > In article <9312181825.AA08226@cantina.lanl.gov>, <silbar@cantina.lanl.gov> > writes: > > > > Wes Spears writes: > > > > I have been getting this error. > > > > Raise RDP exception 6 Code 3 subcode 0 > > Waiting for RDP connection. > > > > I also get this, only during a BOOT, though. I happens about 20%- 25% of the > time. The RDP error always seems to occur when the boot process fails to reset > the SCSI bus. > > I'm also using NS3.1, on an Intel GX workstation with an Adaptec 1542 > controller. > > The only way I've found to get around this is to hit the reset button, then it > resets the SCSI bus just fine and no RDP errors. A bit nerve-racking, > though. > > I, too, would like to know if this is fixed in 3.2 (BEFORE I spend the $$$). > My NeXT vender wouldn't even acknolodge the problem. > > Charles.
From: rlion@access.digex.net (rebel lion) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: basic question re: tar.gz files Date: 22 Dec 1993 21:21:20 -0500 Organization: Rebellion System, Alexandria, VA Message-ID: <rlion.756613206@access> References: <2f7d3i$4cv@marble.Britain.EU.net> charlesa@learned.co.uk writes: >Okay, I can deal with .tar files, and .tar.Z files, but how do I handle >tar.gz? What's the secret of decompressing them? I'm using NS 3.1/I. the .gz extension is for gzip a file that can be easily archie'd from most archie servers >Thanks! sure -- rebel lion (rlion@access.digex.net) (alpha pager: (704) 356-3140) =-= finger my account for computer stuff i have forsale =-= void life() { aint_nothing(but_a,good->groove);
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: henry@trilithon.com (Henry McGilton) Subject: Re: Converting Fonts to next Message-ID: <1993Dec21.023938.21400@trilithon.com> Sender: henry@trilithon.com Organization: Trilithon Software References: <CIAyqx.Jn1@news.udel.edu> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1993 02:39:38 GMT In article <CIAyqx.Jn1@news.udel.edu> ayis@chopin.udel.edu (Ayis Theseas Pyrros) writes: * Hello, first I would like to apologize if I am posting this * question in the wrong group. More appropriate groups would be comp.sys.next.misc or comp.sys.next.software. This followup is directed there. * I have found this Mac Type 1 font on archie.au. I want * to convert it for usage to th NeXTSTEP486. We [Trilithon Software] sell both a Mac->NEXTSTEP font conversion utility and a PC->NEXTSTEP font conversion utility. Interested parties may obtain more information from the channels listed. Write To: Trilithon Software, Two Ohlone, Portola Valley, California 94028. Telephone: (415) 325-0767 FAX: (415) 325-0768 E-mail: info@trilithon.com ........ Henry
Newsgroups: comp.music,comp.sys.next.software From: petrack@vnet.ibm.com Subject: NeXT *compressed* .snd files -- help needed Sender: news@hawnews.watson.ibm.com (NNTP News Poster) Message-ID: <CIH6ns.32on@hawnews.watson.ibm.com> Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1993 06:43:04 GMT News-Software: IBM OS/2 PM RN (NR/2) v0.17h by O. Vishnepolsky and R. Rogers Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM. Organization: IBM Haifa (Israel) Research Group I have a NeXT .snd file, which I would dearly love to hear. I have no NeXT. I was able to read the header, from information in news.answers, and it seems that the magic number in the format field is 19, which means SND_FORMAT_COMPRESSED (16-bit linear with compression). Can someone point me to a program which can deal with such compressed data? I have access to Macs, PC, Suns, RISC/6000 (but sadly not yet Next) Scott Petrack seen at shutdown of AIX 3.2: Petrack@haifasc3.vnet.ibm.com "Wait for '...Halt completed...' before halting..."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch) Subject: Re: Simple Schedule Cost Management / Electronic Timecards Message-ID: <1993Dec23.070844.7404@seer.demon.co.uk> Sender: paul@seer.demon.co.uk Organization: P & L Systems References: <1993Dec22.183112.3144@gleap.jpunix.com> Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1993 07:08:44 GMT In article <1993Dec22.183112.3144@gleap.jpunix.com> titmouse!bshirley (C. William Shirley) writes: > In article <1993Dec22.025727.1295@gleap.jpunix.com> titmouse!bshirley (C. > William Shirley) writes: > > Does anyone know of a *simple* NeXTSTEP program around somewhere to feed > > workschedule data into that will allow you to do some cost analysis on a > > project. > > OK, I don't think I described this very well (sond like a user?). > I don't really want a project management tool. > > I want an electronic timecard app. > Users could enter the time worked on certain projects. > The secretary could collate them into the breakdowns by task. > > > Generally I want to do it by the week. > > Purchase is a possibility. > > Connecting up to Mesa is OK. > > > > > > ex. > > > > joe proj A task H 40 hours > > jane proj B task M 30 hours > > jane proj C task H 10 hours > > john proj B task N 40 hours My solution is rather more complicated than you are asking for, but has the advantage of working with just off the shelf apps. Keep your time records in PencilMeIn (I reckon I could do the same with log files from SBook), with keywords entered in either the title or notes fields. Use Tools->Select Events to grab a date range, and Tools->Export Data to create a tab delimited export file. Import the new file into Mesa, and scan for keywords with the magic incantation: =if(iserror(find("KEYWORD",upper(title[this]),1)),0,duration[this]), where title and duration are labels for the exported data. That formula will put the time in minutes spent on the project in the current cell. Making a time sheet from the results is then a simple exercise. Doing the same for a project team is equally simple. Paul -- Paul Lynch P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk Tel: (0494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green, Fax: (0494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: steve@tarski.math.nd.edu (Steven Buechler) Subject: Re: Saving mail as ASCII text? Message-ID: <1993Dec23.144706.1822@news.nd.edu> Sender: news@news.nd.edu (USENET News System) Organization: University of Notre Dame References: <westesCIGMoB.A2B@netcom.com> Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1993 14:47:06 GMT In article <westesCIGMoB.A2B@netcom.com> westes@netcom.com (Will Estes) writes: > Gregor Hoffleit (flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de) wrote: : : Yet, > when I tried that, using Save Selection, on a piece of pure > Courier : : font, it saved as RTF. > > : Yes, that's true. Mail.app always tries to save the selection > (or the : message) as an RTF file. Propably because in the file > viewer even an ASCII : message is displayed in an RTF-like style, > should say e.g. you can change to a : proportional font. > > One solution is to make the default save format for the editor > ASCII. See Info | Preferences for the editor. > > -- Will Estes Internet: westes@netcom.com -- I've tried making such changes before and they don't seem to do the trick. A mail message is always saved as RTF. (I seem to recall this being discussed before and noone had a solution involving only Mail and Edit.) As someone else suggested, the best option would be to get Scott Hess's TickleServices app. It includes a service for saving as ASCII and MANY other very useful options. And, yes, Mail.app has many shortcomings as Dan Lavin mentions in the Jan. NeXTWorld. Steve ____________________________________ Steven Buechler Department of Mathematics Mail Distribution Center University of Notre Dame Notre Dame, IN 46556
From: silbar@cantina.lanl.gov (Dick Silbar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Saving mail as ASCII text? Date: 23 Dec 1993 09:22:59 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9312231523.AA01775@cantina.lanl.gov> Earlier Dick Silbar (that's me) wrote: >>Alex Blakemore wrote: >> after Will Estes wrote >> > How do I save NeXTMail as an ASCII text file? >> > Amazingly, there is no File | Save As command. >>but there is no need for one. >>look under the services->edit menu. >Yet, when I tried that, using Save Selection, on a piece of pure Courier >font, it saved as RTF. Casey Palowitch replies >You more than likely need to set your Preferences in Edit. On the User >Options, it allows you to choose what format to open new documents in. >It makes sense that you need to have this set to ASCII. Well, that's the way it's set. (Has been for a long time, having been stung on this already numerous times long ago.) My point was better expressed by Gregor Hoffleit in his response. One _ought_ to be able to save out of Mail in other than RTF. By the way, I believe TickleServices can do just that (out of the box). I don't have it on this machine, but I recall seeing "Save as RTF" and "Save as ASCII" service menu items there. Also, if one just wants to edit, not save, an ASCII copy of the whole mail message, doing a <cmd-c> on the header line puts ascii into the pasteboard (provided one opens new Edit documents in ASCII). Dick Silbar WhistleSoft, Inc.
From: M.Crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk (Malcolm Crawford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Digital Librarian oddity in 3.2? Date: 23 Dec 1993 10:48:58 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9312231649.AA12711@dcs.shef.ac.uk> Having made a few additions to a directory I'd previously indexed, I reindexed a target, exactly as I have been doing for a long time. Now when I search in it, it appears to use the index to find entries (very quicky), but then continues to search all entries in the directory a second time, as if there were no index (reporting files it is searching in dark grey font as it goes, as is its wont). This also happens with other directories I have indexed previously, but it does not happen with NeXT's stored documentation. Could somebody please put me out of my misery: what have I unconsciously done silly? I'll remain miserable if it's a bug...! :-) (or :-( ) Have fun, mmalcolm.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: frank_m@sat.mot.com (Mark Frank) Subject: Re: PKunzip on SoftPC - Next Black Message-ID: <1993Dec23.160757.14794@sat.mot.com> Summary: 3.1 Developer with 3.2 user Keywords: Does anyone know if I can use my 3.1 developer with 3.2 user? I really need some of the 3.2 user features, but can't afford to buy the 3.2 developer. Also, what features have been added to 3.2 developer? Thanks for your help - Mark Sender: usenet@sat.mot.com (Usenet Accoun) Organization: Motorola Inc. - Satellite Communications References: <2fak3d$o2o@news.tamu.edu> Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1993 16:07:57 GMT
From: magnus@fisher.Stanford.EDU (Magnus Nordborg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Saving mail as ASCII text? Date: 23 Dec 1993 17:34:29 GMT Organization: Department of Biological Sciences, Stanford University Message-ID: <MAGNUS.93Dec23093429@fisher.Stanford.EDU> References: <9312231523.AA01775@cantina.lanl.gov> In-reply-to: silbar@cantina.lanl.gov's message of 23 Dec 1993 09:22:59 -0600 In article <9312231523.AA01775@cantina.lanl.gov> silbar@cantina.lanl.gov (Dick Silbar) writes: > By the way, I believe TickleServices can do just that (out of the box). > I don't have it on this machine, but I recall seeing "Save as RTF" and > "Save as ASCII" service menu items there. Tickleservices adds "Save as ASCII", "Save as RTF", "Save as TIFF",...plus many other Services (useful in Mail are formatting, quoting, uudecoding, etc). What more can I say? Every NeXT user needs it! :) -- Magnus Nordborg magnus@fisher.stanford.edu (NeXT mail welcome) Department of Biological Sciences Stanford University Stanford, CA 94305-5020 +1 (415) 723-4952 (office)
From: M.Crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk (Malcolm Crawford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Digital Librarian oddity in 3.2? Date: 23 Dec 1993 11:49:53 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9312231750.AA13426@dcs.shef.ac.uk> Thanks to Matt Watson for this swift response... I'd count it as a bug too! Have fun, mmalcolm. Begin forwarded message: From: Matt_Watson@NeXT.COM (Matt Watson) Date: Thu, 23 Dec 93 09:18:37 -0800 To: M.Crawford Subject: Re: Digital Librarian oddity in 3.2? In comp.sys.next.software article <9312231649.AA12711@dcs.shef.ac.uk> you wrote: [...] > Could somebody please put me out of my misery: what have I > unconsciously done silly? > I'll remain miserable if it's a bug...! :-) (or :-( ) [...] You have to index with ixbuild -s (at least) if you want "static" indexes. (DL doesn't do this if you use the target inspector to index) Otherwise, DL thinks that the source may have changed, so after it searches the index, it goes through all the source files... This behaviour is counter-intuitive, so I've filed a bug against it. matt. -- Matt Watson NeXT Computer, Inc.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: frank_m@sat.mot.com (Mark Frank) Subject: Using 3.1 developer with 3.2 user Message-ID: <1993Dec23.173000.16150@sat.mot.com> Sender: usenet@sat.mot.com (Usenet Accoun) Organization: Motorola Inc. - Satellite Communications Distribution: usa Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1993 17:30:00 GMT Does anyone know if it is possible to use 3.1 developer with 3.2 user? I need some of the features in 3.2 user, but can't afford 3.2 developer. Also, what added features are in 3.2 developer? - Thanks, Mark
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: janet@lighthouse.com (Janet Hufnagel) Subject: Re: Diagram! question Message-ID: <1993Dec23.174703.553@lighthouse.com> Sender: janet@lighthouse.com Organization: Lighthouse Design, Ltd. References: <CIGnKJ.ELu@dvorak.amd.com> Distribution: usa Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1993 17:47:03 GMT Yes, we "incredible dudes" and dudettes :-) are listening. Thanks for your comments. It's true, you can't make arbitrary shapes and polygons with the line tool and fill, stroke, etc. them. However, it's one of our MOST requested features and we'll work really hard to incorporate it into D!3. We always appreciate comments and feedback. The address to use is diagram@lighthouse.com. Janet Hufnagel Lighthouse Design, Ltd. In article <CIGnKJ.ELu@dvorak.amd.com> rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com (Ron Pomeroy x(Coop)) writes: > In article <CIGEx6.5uG@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> streib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu > (Allan M. Streib) writes: > >>I have Lighthouse Design's Diagram! running under NS 2.1 on a mono > >>slab. If I create a polygon by connecting several points with lines, > >>can I then get Diagram! to treat it as a symbol? Specifically, when I > >>select this group of points and lines, I want the Inspector to let me > >>set fill, shadow, and outline colors. > >> > >>Maybe what I'm really asking is how to create new symbols that are not > >>on the default palette. (I bought the Edu. version and only have the > >>online help-- no other documentation) > >> > >>Many thanks for any help! > >> > >>-Allan > >> > > As far as I know you cannot extend the types of symbols (i.e. the kind you can > type in, set shadow, style etc... > > This capability would be a welcome addition in Diagram!3.0. Hey, incredable > Lighthouse dudes, you listening ? > > -- > Ronald Pomeroy > Advanced Micro Devices > CAM Applications Group > rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com (Ron Pomeroy x(Coop)) Subject: Re: Diagram! question Message-ID: <CIICr7.5ME@dvorak.amd.com> Sender: news@dvorak.amd.com (Usenet News) Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin TX References: <1993Dec23.174703.553@lighthouse.com> Distribution: usa Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1993 21:52:18 GMT In article <1993Dec23.174703.553@lighthouse.com> janet@lighthouse.com (Janet Hufnagel) writes: >> >>Yes, we "incredible dudes" and dudettes :-) are listening. >> Thats why I use the word "incredible"... Sigh...if only NeXT were so responsive. -- Ronald Pomeroy Advanced Micro Devices CAM Applications Group rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com (Ron Pomeroy x(Coop)) Subject: Help...How do I make TickleServices go away... Message-ID: <CIID3q.5t5@dvorak.amd.com> Sender: news@dvorak.amd.com (Usenet News) Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin TX Distribution: usa Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1993 21:59:49 GMT Yikes! I tried (unsucessfully) to install and play with TickleServices.app demo (no one's fault - the demo on the net expired). Now, every time I log in I get a system beep and a console message: Dec 23 10:25:47 Workspace: Cannot exec /auhp1/cam1/rpomeroy/NeXTStuff/TickleServices1.0/TickleServices.app/Tic kleServer.daemon How do I exercise this daemon from my system ? -- Ronald Pomeroy Advanced Micro Devices CAM Applications Group rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com
From: rkirchne@ariel (Roger Kirchner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: basic question re: tar.gz files Date: 23 Dec 1993 21:56:43 GMT Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory, NM Message-ID: <2fd46r$r16@chuangtsu.acns.carleton.edu> References: <2f7d3i$4cv@marble.Britain.EU.net> <rlion.756613206@access> It isn't obvious, but it is necessary to rename a file.gz to file.z before decompressing with gzip. Then gzip -d file.z decompresses it.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) Subject: Re: basic question re: tar.gz files Message-ID: <1993Dec24.033513.14224@csus.edu> Sender: news@csus.edu Organization: San Francisco State University References: <2f7d3i$4cv@marble.Britain.EU.net> <rlion.756613206@access> <2fd46r$r16@chuangtsu.acns.carleton.edu> Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1993 03:35:13 GMT In article <2fd46r$r16@chuangtsu.acns.carleton.edu> ariel!rkirchne@carleton.edu (Roger Kirchner) writes: >It isn't obvious, but it is necessary to rename a file.gz to >file.z before decompressing with gzip. Then gzip -d file.z >decompresses it. If this is true on your machine, you have an old/buggy/broken version of gzip. You should obtain a copy of gzip 1.2.4 and install it ASAP! -=EPS=-
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore) Subject: Re: basic question re: tar.gz files Message-ID: <CIIpM7.1zw@genoa.com> Sender: alex@genoa.com (Alex Blakemore) Organization: Genoa Software Systems References: <2fd46r$r16@chuangtsu.acns.carleton.edu> Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1993 02:30:06 GMT Roger Kirchner writes > It isn't obvious, but it is necessary to rename a file.gz to > file.z before decompressing with gzip. Then gzip -d file.z > decompresses it. only with 3.1 - which used an early version of gzip, starting with 3.2 and all but the first versions of gzip .gz is the standard suffix -- Alex Blakemore alex@cs.umd.edu NeXT mail accepted
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) Subject: Grinched! Message-ID: <1993Dec24.042728.16794@csus.edu> Sender: news@csus.edu Organization: San Francisco State University Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1993 04:27:28 GMT <<flame on>> This was supposed to be a MAJOR ANNOUNCEMENT about a wonderful Christmas present for the NEXTSTEP community, but, regretably, that's going to be delayed a while because %*(&!^@ NeXT oh-so- politely refused to advance ship us so much as ONE copy of NEXTSTEP 3.2 for compatibility testing, promised delivery in mid- November--and so far all we've received is ONE copy of NEXTSTEP 3.2 User (Motorola) and NO copies of NEXTSTEP Developer. Needless to say, we're out thousands of bucks with NOTHING to show for it, and weeks behind schedule solely because of NeXT's sheer incompetence. Since we're pretty much shutting down for the holidays (which means our Receiving department isn't functional, and even FedEx can't get stuff to me now), it's going to be NEXT YEAR before we even have a prayer of beta testing, let alone shipping product. Since I absolutely can't disclose anything about it publicly until then (except to say it's totally cool, you've never seen anything quite like it, it could have a dramatically positive effect on NEXTSTEP's acceptability and sales, and it's not likely to be duplicated in a non-NEXTSTEP environment any time soon), I'll miss the deadline to file for a Speaker slot to talk about it at June's Developer Conference. This sucks. Thank you, NeXT ... NOT! I sure hope they're treating their "important customers" a lot better. BTW, according to NeXTWORLD Magazine, _they_ still haven't received 3.2 for Black Hardware (if they're not important, I don't know who is), and claim that NeXT's fulfillment house is shipping in ZIP code order. Grr... Again, my deepest apologies to the NEXTSTEP community. I hope you'll be understanding, and forgive this most unfortunate delay. I'd love to tell you "it won't happen again," but I can't. I am thoroughly embarrassed to be in this position. <<flame off>> -=EPS=- -- I'm sure glad we didn't promise a dollar off for every day we don't ship, or we'd be paying customers to run our software...
From: matthewm@sgate.com (Mike Matthews) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Doom NeXT vs. Doom DOS Date: 23 Dec 1993 17:37:23 -0500 Organization: Collins International Services Company Message-ID: <2fd6j3$ib2@sgate.com> References: <rorCHzApM.FB7@netcom.com> <1993Dec13.215437.815@proximus.north.de> <2f4c3u$624@access3.digex.net> In article <2f4c3u$624@access3.digex.net> hacker@access3.digex.net (Dark Hacker) writes: >In article <1993Dec13.215437.815@proximus.north.de>, >Gerhard Moeller <gemoe@proximus.north.de> wrote: >I can't see why. Porting DOOM to black hardware would be like porting >it to the Macintosh and there's no reason to think that any other >ports to dissemilar architectures have been made. Two entirely >different architectures. Soft PC under NeXTStep only runs on white >hardware so that's out. Erm... I believe the NeXT HW version of Doom is just waiting some assembly language routines to speed it up. Be careful in how you use the the term 'Soft PC.' There are two versions, one that runs on NeXT hardware and one that runs native-speed-ish on white hardware. Once the NeXT HW version of doom is out, I'm snagging a copy. Considering we'll be getting more NEXTSTEP/Intel machines at work "one of these days," I wouldn't mind the NEXTSTEP/Intel version. I called the order number to place an order for it, but they didn't know what NEXTSTEP was. I'll wait... That rocket launcher is just too damn fun, though. >- Hacker ------ Mike Matthews, Mike_Matthews@sgate.com (NeXTmail accepted) ------ To be, or what? - Sylvester Stallone
Newsgroups: alt.3d,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc From: chuck@benatong.com (Charles G. Bennett) Subject: Re: Renderman books? Message-ID: <CIILrK.1n8@benatong.com> Sender: usenet@benatong.com Organization: BenaTong References: <Dec.21.20.09.36.1993.8142@gandalf.rutgers.edu> Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1993 01:06:55 GMT In article <Dec.21.20.09.36.1993.8142@gandalf.rutgers.edu> kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) writes: > > Hi All, > I'm looking for a good renderman book that will teach me about the > language, rib files, etc. I want to learn about the whole enchalada :) > Any/All help will be appreciated. > > Later, John The RenderMan Companion by Steve Upstill has a lot of usefull information Published by Addison-Wesley ISBN 0-201-50868-0 Chuck
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: david@ffcsas.demon.co.uk Subject: Re: Using 3.1 developer with 3.2 user Message-ID: <CIJAHC.J25@demon.co.uk> Sender: news@demon.co.uk (Usenet Administration) Organization: Demon Internet Limited. References: <1993Dec23.173000.16150@sat.mot.com> Distribution: usa Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1993 10:00:48 GMT In article <1993Dec23.173000.16150@sat.mot.com> frank_m@sat.mot.com (Mark Frank) writes: > > Does anyone know if it is possible to use 3.1 developer with 3.2 user? I need some of the features in 3.2 user, but can't afford 3.2 developer. Also, what added features are in 3.2 developer? > - Thanks, Mark If you registered your copy of 3.1 (User and developer) with NEXT you should be getting a 3.2 upgrade FOC !! -- Regards David Knight FFC Software and Systems Limited 351 London Road Phone: (44) 0702 551010 Hadleigh Fax: (44) 0702 551515 Essex. SS7 2BT Email: david@ffcsas.demon.co.uk
From: rlion@access.digex.net (rebel lion) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: two 3.2 oddities..please check these out Date: 24 Dec 1993 11:50:57 -0500 Organization: Rebellion System, Alexandria, VA Message-ID: <rlion.756751739@access> 1) when i run UserMgr and select delete user, then leave in netinfo database but disable account, it makes the user's info just dissapear and dosen't do anything..this didn't happen in 2.1 :) 2) i have kperfmon a performance monitor that ran fine undfer 2.1 and now under 3.2 it randomly stops running. every once in a while it just *stops* hmmm ack thanks for the help -- rebel lion (rlion@access.digex.net (NeXTMail)) (alpha pager: (704) 356-3140) =-= finger my account for computer stuff i have forsale =-= void life() { aint_nothing(but_a,good->groove);
From: silbar@cantina.lanl.gov (Dick Silbar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Help...How do I make TickleServices go away... Date: 24 Dec 1993 11:17:32 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9312241718.AA02423@cantina.lanl.gov> From silbar Fri Dec 24 09:13:05 1993 Date: Fri, 24 Dec 93 09:13:05 MST From: silbar (To: rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com) To: rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com Subject: Re: Help...How do I make TickleServices go away... Ron Pomeroy was exercised on this topic and asked: "How do I exercise this daemon from my system ?" I guess that exorcise is the rooting out of all evil. I think there is a 'dwrite Workspace LaunchPaths' that can help you. Try 'dread -o Workspace' to see what's there. -- Dick Silbar WhistleSoft, Inc. NeXTMail: silbar@cantina.lanl.gov
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com (Ron Pomeroy x(Coop)) Subject: Re: Help...How do I make TickleServices go away...(SOLVED!) Message-ID: <CIJrw1.3MC@dvorak.amd.com> Sender: news@dvorak.amd.com (Usenet News) Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin TX Distribution: usa Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1993 16:16:48 GMT Thanks to everone who replyed. The solution was to remove the launchpath from the defaults database with: dremove Workspace LaunchPaths This assumes you don't have anything else of interest being lauched via this mechanism. Thanks again! -- Ronald Pomeroy Advanced Micro Devices CAM Applications Group rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: andrew@stone.com (Andrew Stone) Subject: WARNING: NS 3.2 and DataPhile 2.0 incompatibilities & workarounds Message-ID: <1993Dec24.175209.801@stone.com> Keywords: DataPhile 3.2 Sender: andrew@stone.com Organization: Stone Design Corp Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1993 17:52:09 GMT DataPhile 2.0 has serious problems running on NEXTSTEP 3.2. Since DataPhile 2.0 shipped before NS 3.2, this was totally unpredictable. Even the person who made the change to the IXKIT was unaware of its adverse effects on ALL applications dependent upon the indexing kit. Stone Design and Pangea have isolated the main problem that is responsible for corrupting databases and destroying views. Basically any view or text field or entry list larger than 8K in size will trigger the bug. NeXT is aware of the problem, knows that it is theirs, and we await their fix. In the meantime, we have made available a patch program, PatchDP, for DataPhile 2.0 that allows it to use the 3.1 shared libraries rather than the ones in 3.2. This circumvents most of the problems, but we would still encourage you to take precautions, such as exporting regularly and often, until DataPhile 2.1 is released Q1 94. If you decide to use DP2.0 unpatched on NS3.2, review your databases for the potential problem areas mentioned above before logging out. In particular, the Cities entry list provided in your DataPhileAux.pkg should not be used. Also, follow the instructions for fixing finds in SEARCHING_DP. Basically, we recommend that you should either not upgrade to NS 3.2, or patch DP 2.0. The PatchDP program is available on the Internet at the following ftp site: ftp.cs.unm.edu, in directory pub/stone/DataPhile/NS_3.2-DataPhile_Workarounds.tar.Z sum NS_3.2-DataPhile_Workarounds.tar.Z 28557 65 If you cannot ftp, send email to info@stone.com with the subject "Send Patch - ASCII" or "Send Patch - NeXTMAIL" We are on holiday until January 3, 1994; but we will fill requests for the patch during the holidays. May '94 be Happy and Bug Free! -- ||<<->>||<<==>>||<<++>>||<<?>>||<<+>>||<<-->>||<<==>>||<<+>>|| !! Andrew Stone !! (505) 345-4800 !! !! andrew@stone.com <> Stone Design Corp !! ||<<->>||<<==>>||<<++>>||<<?>>||<<+>>||<<-->>||<<==>>||<<+>>||
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: walters@corndog.id.com (Chris Walters) Subject: Re: Update: Doom for NeXT! Message-ID: <1993Dec24.194800.28217@corndog.id.com> Organization: Intrinsic Development Corporation References: <1993Dec22.012347.20909@cs.wisc.edu> Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1993 19:48:00 GMT bestor@caracal.cs.wisc.edu (Gareth Bestor) writes: > > Send questions about id Software to help@idsoftware.com > (NeXTmail OK). Yes, please don't send them to id.com (that's us). Although I'd love to say we wrote DOOM, we didn't! Thanks, Chris -- Chris Walters 13711 Rosetree Court Intrinsic Development Corporation Chantilly, VA 22030 walters@id.com (703)742-0470,(703)742-0471 FAX ------------------------- Hack Naked --------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: westes@netcom.com (Will Estes) Subject: Re: Saving mail as ASCII text? Message-ID: <westesCIK8zE.Dq9@netcom.com> Organization: Mail Group References: <westesCIGMoB.A2B@netcom.com> <1993Dec23.144706.1822@news.nd.edu> Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1993 22:26:02 GMT Steven Buechler (steve@tarski.math.nd.edu) wrote: : In article <westesCIGMoB.A2B@netcom.com> westes@netcom.com (Will : Estes) writes: : > Gregor Hoffleit (flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de) wrote: : : Yet, : > when I tried that, using Save Selection, on a piece of pure : > Courier : : font, it saved as RTF. : > : > : Yes, that's true. Mail.app always tries to save the selection : > (or the : message) as an RTF file. Propably because in the file : > viewer even an ASCII : message is displayed in an RTF-like style, : > should say e.g. you can change to a : proportional font. : > : > One solution is to make the default save format for the editor : > ASCII. See Info | Preferences for the editor. : > : > -- Will Estes Internet: westes@netcom.com : -- : I've tried making such changes before and they don't seem to do the trick. Hmm, looks like you are right. Has anyone written an extension to TickleServices to take care of this problem? -- Will Estes Internet: westes@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: westes@netcom.com (Will Estes) Subject: Compiled version of elm 2.4? Message-ID: <westesCIKA4D.7s@netcom.com> Organization: Mail Group Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1993 22:50:36 GMT Does anyone have a compiled version of elm 2.4 available for NeXT by ftp? -- Will Estes Internet: westes@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch) Subject: Re: Using 3.1 developer with 3.2 user Message-ID: <1993Dec24.231806.4208@seer.demon.co.uk> Sender: paul@seer.demon.co.uk Organization: P & L Systems References: <CIJAHC.J25@demon.co.uk> Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1993 23:18:06 GMT In article <CIJAHC.J25@demon.co.uk> david@ffcsas.demon.co.uk writes: > In article <1993Dec23.173000.16150@sat.mot.com> frank_m@sat.mot.com (Mark > Frank) writes: > > > > Does anyone know if it is possible to use 3.1 developer with 3.2 user? I > need some of the features in 3.2 user, but can't afford 3.2 developer. Also, > what added features are in 3.2 developer? > > - Thanks, Mark > > If you registered your copy of 3.1 (User and developer) with NEXT you should be > getting a 3.2 upgrade FOC !! Unless, of course, you bought an evaluation kit, and can now afford a user copy, but no developer. Paul (distribution line corrected) -- Paul Lynch P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk Tel: (0494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green, Fax: (0494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: kosmatoo@JSP.UMontreal.CA (Kosmatos Odisseas) Subject: No P.D. terminal program?? Message-ID: <CIKD6M.F1v@cc.umontreal.ca> Sender: news@cc.umontreal.ca (Administration de Cnews) Organization: Universite de Montreal Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1993 23:56:45 GMT Greetings. Recently I bought myself a mono Next cube 040, for home use. Then I got a ZyXEL does-it-all modem.. So naturaly, like on most computers, I was hoping there would be a P.D. terminal program available. What have I found? Icomm -- I can't believe how pathetic this is. It doesnt even feel like a NeXTstep application. It wouldnt let me scroll back to see what just went off the screen. It wont let you use the mouse to cut and paste. It doesnt even send the vt-100 arrow key codes. Worst of all, it has a button for 19200 baud which doesnt do anything. It still runs at 9600 baud. When receiving zmodem, you can't hide the application! Next... TipTop -- promising but doesnt work on NS3.0... I got the version which claimed to. I installed it, changed the permissions, etc.. But it won't talk to my modem when I type. After a while it becomes permanently busy and I can't even kill it with process tool. It can't be that hard to write a simple terminal program with vt-100 and that can run at 38400 bps? I guess this is my first task for a program in NeXTstep. Or... does anybody know of a program that I am missing. Even shareware will do.. bye! -- <-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-> |o Long live o| | Odisseas Kosmatos email: kosmatoo@jsp.umontreal.ca | |o NeXTstep! o| <-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-> "The force is used for knowledge and defense. Never for attack." --Yoda
From: felix@nice.usergroup.ethz.ch (Felix Rauch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: basic question re: tar.gz files Date: Sat, 25 Dec 1993 00:40:40 GMT Organization: ETH Zuerich Message-ID: <1993Dec25.004040.905@harka> References: <2f7d3i$4cv@marble.Britain.EU.net> <rlion.756613206@access> <2fd46r$r16@chuangtsu.acns.carleton.edu> Originator: felix@nice Roger Kirchner (rkirchne@ariel) wrote: > It isn't obvious, but it is necessary to rename a file.gz to > file.z before decompressing with gzip. Then gzip -d file.z > decompresses it. This is correct for older versions of gzip. Newer versions use the *.gz extension. -- Felix Rauch, CS-Student @ ETH Zurich, Switzerland. internet: felix@nice.usergroup.ethz.ch (NeXT Mail welcome) <Don't let them fool ya, or even try to school ya!> (Bob Marley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: murphy@well.sf.ca.us (Daniel A. Murphy) Subject: Re: PGP for NEXTSTEP Message-ID: <CIKHKM.Bt8@well.sf.ca.us> Sender: news@well.sf.ca.us Organization: The Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link, Sausalito, CA References: <2eta34$hvr@netnews.upenn.edu> <CI8uK5.H23@benatong.com> Date: Sat, 25 Dec 1993 01:31:33 GMT Where can one actually find a copy of PGP for black hardware? -- ------------------- Daniel A. Murphy Net: murphy@well.sf.ca.us San Francisco, CA Brevity is the soul of wit, U.S.A. especially in .signature files
From: rascal@CAM.ORG (Pascal Gaudette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: basic question re: tar.gz files Date: 25 Dec 1993 00:43:31 GMT Organization: Communications Accessibles Montreal, Quebec Canada Message-ID: <2fg2bj$fo0@Tandem.CAM.ORG> References: <2f7d3i$4cv@marble.Britain.EU.net> <rlion.756613206@access> <2fd46r$r16@chuangtsu.acns.carleton.edu> <1993Dec24.033513.14224@csus.edu> Eric P. Scott (eps@futon.SFSU.EDU) wrote: : In article <2fd46r$r16@chuangtsu.acns.carleton.edu> : ariel!rkirchne@carleton.edu (Roger Kirchner) writes: : >It isn't obvious, but it is necessary to rename a file.gz to : >file.z before decompressing with gzip. Then gzip -d file.z : >decompresses it. : : If this is true on your machine, you have an old/buggy/broken : version of gzip. You should obtain a copy of gzip 1.2.4 and : install it ASAP! [Gosh, I feel weird following up on EPS... I'm sure he knows everything I'm about to say -- in fact, he probably knows EVERYTHING :-) -- but he didn't say it.] This is the case for anyone running NeXTSTEP 3.1, which has gzip v1.0.7 (18 Mar 93) under /usr/bin. Make sure that you put /usr/local/bin before /usr/bin in your path if you install gzip there, otherwise, you'll be using the older version (either that or remove the gzip in /usr/bin). BTW, is there anything seriously wrong with v1.0.7? EPS seems to imply this by insisting on the "ASAP". I have several files which were compressed with gzip v <1.0 which I have not touched since. Should I be worried? -- Pascal "The Rascal" Gaudette rascal@cam.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) Subject: Re: Grinched! Message-ID: <1993Dec25.025121.19325@csus.edu> Sender: news@csus.edu Organization: San Francisco State University References: <1993Dec24.042728.16794@csus.edu> Date: Sat, 25 Dec 1993 02:51:21 GMT Not too surprisingly, I've received a flood of mail in response to this posting. There were several offers from faraway places to send me copies, and more confirmations that other local customers are in the same situation. It's really up to NeXT to make good on this, and I can't officially accept "loaners" from unauthorized sources. We don't see any reason to ship something that only works on 3.1 (especially when so many people have already upgraded to 3.2), and have good reason to expect problems--if for no other reason than depending on some half dozen undocumented features (the table() call, certain AppKit internals, etc.) because there is no better way to find out certain things. Expect to see some lengthy release notes. As Andrew Stone (and others) have discovered, many unpleasant surprises await us. :-( * * * One of the first things NeXT should have done when 3.2 was officially released was to make their Release Notes/Revision History available for anonymous FTP. That's still no substitute for having the real thing--one of the painful lessons of the 3.0->3.1 transition is that NeXT doesn't publicly document every single change/bug fix, and 95% of the time things don't work as expected, it turns out to be NeXT's fault. But it doesn't hurt to know _in advance_ at least some of what to expect. Also, if you've asked a 3.2-specific question and didn't get an expected response from me, I'm not ignoring you--I'm just going to be a useless cripple until I have 3.2 running here. Don't worry, I have plenty of things to keep me occupied until then. :-) -=EPS=-
From: glenn@rightbrain.com (Glenn Reid) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: SpellChecker for the NeXT Message-ID: <1437@rtbrain.rightbrain.com> Date: 25 Dec 93 02:58:25 GMT References: <CIG6LJ.55J@genoa.com> Sender: glenn@rightbrain.com Alex Blakemore writes > Glenn Reid writes > > The worst thing a spell checker can do is to accept misspelled > > words. > just for reference, take a look at one of the Jon Bentley's > programming pearls books (the first one I think). He gives a good > description of the design of a simple fast spell checker that is > very economical in terms of memory. He gets a vast improvement > in simplicity and memory requirements, by allowing a very very small > percentage of false positives (misspelled words that are not > caught by the spell checker). There are times when this is the > right tradeoff. I don't agree. There *were* times when it was better to save some memory and processing power and get the wrong answer, but those days are long past. A spelling checker that gives false positives is not a spelling checker, with all due respect to Jon Bentley. -- Glenn Reid glenn@rightbrain.com Woodside, California
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: thomas@olorin.dark.sub.org (Thomas Fischer) Subject: Re: Doom NeXT vs. Doom DOS Message-ID: <1993Dec24.125850.26126@olorin.dark.sub.org> Organization: Olorin, NeXT Development & System Administration, FRG References: <rorCHzApM.FB7@netcom.com> <1993Dec13.215437.815@proximus.north.de> <CICs57.H64@freenet.carleton.ca> Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1993 12:58:50 GMT ak866@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Steven Besler) wrote: > >The all knowing "Dark Hacker" strikes again. > >1) SoftPC runs on Black Hardware. >2) Doom runs on Colour Black Hardware. It does ? Do you need a special version for that ? I've a NeXTstation color, but when I tried to start Doom it said something like 'wrong binary'. I hope someone can help - I'd really like to give it a try... :-) Idea: maybe it runs only on 3.2 ? Thomas PS: Merry Christmas! -- Millihelen, adj: The amount of beauty required to launch one ship. --- Thomas Fischer, thomas@olorin.dark.sub.org, +49 7191 23217 (fax & data)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: rolf@rolfhh.hanse.de (Rolf Woehrmann) Subject: SoundWorks: PasteSpecial Message-ID: <1993Dec22.221922.386@rolfhh.hanse.de> Sender: rolf@rolfhh.hanse.de Organization: Rolf Woehrmann, Hamburg, Germany Date: Wed, 22 Dec 93 22:19:22 GMT Hi! I use SoundWorks 3.0(v2) on black hardware with NS 3.2. When I select "PasteSpecial" the panel appears but missing the little edit-view in the envelope-box. Clicking the paste button inside has no effect. Selecting "PasteSpecial" again or hitting command-V performs an ordinary paste. I like the concept of PasteSpecial, but how can I get it work? -- Rolf Woehrmann E-mail: rolf@rolfhh.hanse.de Wrangelstrasse 105 B (NeXTmail welcome) 20253 Hamburg Voice: + 49 / 40 / 422 49 10 Germany
From: andrew@cubetech.com (Andrew Loewenstern) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: PGP for NEXTSTEP Date: 25 Dec 1993 12:46:53 -0600 Organization: Cube Technologies, Inc Message-ID: <2fi1qt$16q@valinor.cubetech.com> References: <2eta34$hvr@netnews.upenn.edu> <CI8uK5.H23@benatong.com> <CIKHKM.Bt8@well.sf.ca.us> In article <CIKHKM.Bt8@well.sf.ca.us> murphy@well.sf.ca.us (Daniel A. Murphy) writes: > > >Where can one actually find a copy of PGP for black hardware? soda.berkeley.edu:/pub/cypherpunks/pgp this is just the standard command-line version of PGP, but it compiles out of the box without any problems. There exist a couple of front-ends, but they are services based and you still need the real version of pgp to do the actual work and key-management. Someday a nice NeXTSTEP version of pgp will come out... andrew -- andrew@cubetech.com | "We cannot dwell in the time that is to come, Andrew Loewenstern | lest we lose our now for a phantom of our Cube Technologies, Inc. | own design." - Erendis pgp key fingerprint: 20 96 AA 28 A3 61 74 68 5B D1 B5 33 00 FA 15 B4
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch) Subject: Re: Doom NeXT vs. Doom DOS Message-ID: <1993Dec25.193602.5980@seer.demon.co.uk> Sender: paul@seer.demon.co.uk Organization: P & L Systems References: <1993Dec24.125850.26126@olorin.dark.sub.org> Date: Sat, 25 Dec 1993 19:36:02 GMT In article <1993Dec24.125850.26126@olorin.dark.sub.org> thomas@olorin.dark.sub.org (Thomas Fischer) writes: > ak866@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Steven Besler) wrote: > > > >The all knowing "Dark Hacker" strikes again. > > > >1) SoftPC runs on Black Hardware. > >2) Doom runs on Colour Black Hardware. > > It does ? > > Do you need a special version for that ? I've a NeXTstation color, but when > I tried to start Doom it said something like 'wrong binary'. Doom only runs on Intel hardware (NeXTSTEP or DOS). Id have said that they will produce a version for black hardware, but it isn't available yet. Paul -- Paul Lynch P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk Tel: (0494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green, Fax: (0494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: manroe@manki.toppoint.de(Manfred Roehr) Subject: FONT-EDITOR needed Message-ID: <CILqL3.JI@manki.toppoint.de> Sender: manroe@manki.toppoint.de (Manfred Roehr) Date: Sat, 25 Dec 1993 17:43:51 GMT Hey! I m looking for a Fonteditor for black NeXT. Is there any in work? I want to create my own fonts and add to several fonts german umlauts. Thinking its now time for it! Can anybody ... thanks Manfred -- *************************************************************** * Manfred Roehr e-mail: manroe@toppoint.de * * Elisabethstrasse 88 fax: +49 431 733 483 * * 24143 Kiel phone: +49 431 73 45 39 * * Germany NeXT-mail welcome * ***************************************************************
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: rob@brewster.demon.co.uk (Robert Alan Heyes) Subject: Re: GatorFTP(+) authors... Intel doesn't work Distribution: na References: <manenber.93Dec1752544@ibis.ccmail.com> Organization: Kallisti Systems Date: Sat, 25 Dec 1993 23:58:17 +0000 Message-ID: <756863897snz@brewster.demon.co.uk> Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk In article <manenber.93Dec1752544@ibis.ccmail.com> manenber@ibis.ccmail.com writes: > To the authors of GatorFTP or GatorFTP+ : > > The NS/Intel version of Gator FTP+ crashes everytime you try and transfer and > files. > > Can someone please look at this? If you don't have access to an intel box to > test it, > I would be willing to help debug it, as I do. > > Thanks, > Mark Anenberg > Lotus, ccMail > manenber@ibis.ccmail.com > I just picked up GatorFTP+ for 486 from cs.orst.edu and have the same problem, although I do have a partial solution. File transfers seem to crash every time when there is a .gatorftprc file in the home directory. If you delete this file the transfer should work. Hope this helps those of you that have the same problem, and also in tracking down the bug. -- Robert Alan Heyes
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english,comp.sys.next.software From: dpeter@hsd.com (David W. Peter) Subject: Re: SpellChecker for the NeXT Message-ID: <CInupF.4M1@beach.com> Sender: dpeter@beach.com (David Peter) Organization: HSD U.S. Inc., S.D. References: <1993Dec21.200353.17197@cs.ucla.edu> Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1993 21:08:02 GMT In article <1993Dec21.200353.17197@cs.ucla.edu> geoff@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Geoff Kuenning) writes: > > "Spellchecker" is *NOT* a correctly-spelled word. It's a > concatenation of two correct words. Unlike German, it's not generally > OK in English to just coin a new word by concatenating two old ones, > especially when the old ones will do just fine as they stand, or > hyphenated. You're right, it is a concantenation. I'm married to a German and it must be rubbing off. I've always wondered what she means when she chases me around the house with a spoon yelling "Gomowthelawn" "Takeoutthetrash" "Gogetarealjob" and things like that. And all this time I though she was speaking German... Anyway, when such a word a "spellchecker" is encountered, the spell checker should suggest "spell checker", which is what HSD Spell suggests. Not "spellcheckner" as is suggested by NeXT's speller. > Is "wacked" really a correctly-spelled word? No, it isn't as far as I can tell, but the point is that NeXT's speller suggests "wcacked", when it should suggest "whacked", which is what HSD Spell correctly suggests. Happy Holidays. Sincerely, David W. Peter HSD Inc. Ph. (408) 774-1400 Fax (408) 774-1402 Email: dpeter@hsd.com (NeXTMail) -- Sincerely, David W. Peter HSD Inc.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: westes@netcom.com (Will Estes) Subject: ftp location for screen savers? Message-ID: <westesCIo0Bq.Ipp@netcom.com> Organization: Mail Group Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1993 23:09:25 GMT Can someone give an ftp site and path for screen savers to use with BackSpace? (i.e., .BackO modules....) -- Will Estes Internet: westes@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: mohenly@malahat.library.uvic.ca (Michael O'Henly) Subject: man page -> PS (How?) Message-ID: <1993Dec27.030326.810@sol.UVic.CA> Sender: news@sol.UVic.CA Organization: University of Victoria Date: Mon, 27 Dec 93 03:03:26 GMT For reasons that are too complicated and boring to explain, I need to find a way to convert man pages from their native format to PostScript so that my wife can print them on her office (Apple) printer. I'm using NS3.0 (if that makes a difference) and would be most grateful if you could provide the incantation that will transform a man page into a PS file. Michael -- o --/-- __\ Michael O'Henly \ mohenly@malahat.Library.UVic.CA
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Quick Guide to NEXTSTEP information on the Internet Date: 27 Dec 1993 00:13:44 -0500 Organization: Next Announcements Message-ID: <2flqu8$tl@digifix.digifix.com> This post is made weekly, to help 'point' users to more NEXTSTEP information Topics include: comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers comp.sys.next.* newsgroups -------------------------- Comp.Sys.Next.Advocacy This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. 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Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. Comp.Object Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original Comp.Sys.Next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News ------------------------------------------- Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep-d next-advocacy-d next-announce-d next-bugs-d next-hardware-d next-marketplace-d next-misc-d next-programmer-d next-software-d next-sysadmin-d (For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to <digestif@antigone.com>). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's. 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If you have problems using this, please send mail to NeXTanswers-request@NeXT.com. Written by: Eric P. Scott eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU and Scott Anguish sanguish@digifix.com Additions from: Greg Anderson (Greg_Anderson@afs.com) and Michael Pizolato (Michael_Pizolato@afs.com)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: kosmatoo@JSP.UMontreal.CA (Kosmatos Odisseas) Subject: TOP processes Message-ID: <CIoLAr.A72@cc.umontreal.ca> Summary: top, virtual memory Sender: news@cc.umontreal.ca (Administration de Cnews) Organization: Universite de Montreal Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1993 06:42:27 GMT Hi... Is there a 'top' utility for NeXTSTEP? ...Earlier I was enjoying receiving files at 14.4k, listening to modfiles, decompressing the lot, and writing this letter. How am I supposed to find out if I can safely run yet another program, and which is the biggest hog? Thanks! P.s: what was that formula I once saw somewhere in the next newsgroups that concerned virtual memory. Something about dividing "translation faults" by "pageouts", and if under 100, get more memory? -- <-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-> |o Long live o| | Odisseas Kosmatos email: kosmatoo@jsp.umontreal.ca | |o NeXTstep! o| <-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-> "The force is used for knowledge and defense. Never for attack." --Yoda
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch) Subject: Re: man page -> PS (How?) Message-ID: <1993Dec27.083444.8838@seer.demon.co.uk> Sender: paul@seer.demon.co.uk Organization: P & L Systems References: <1993Dec27.030326.810@sol.UVic.CA> Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1993 08:34:44 GMT In article <1993Dec27.030326.810@sol.UVic.CA> mohenly@malahat.library.uvic.ca (Michael O'Henly) writes: > For reasons that are too complicated and boring to explain, I need to > find a way to convert man pages from their native format to PostScript so > that my wife can print them on her office (Apple) printer. > > I'm using NS3.0 (if that makes a difference) and would be most grateful > if you could provide the incantation that will transform a man page into a > PS file. > Try this incantation; it puts ps onto stdout: /usr/bin/tbl $file | /usr/bin/eqn | ptroff -t -man I use it in Terminal Services, but you could use it in Tickle Services (add a '| open' on the end). Paul -- Paul Lynch P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk Tel: (0494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green, Fax: (0494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
From: wilkie@PROBLEM_WITH_INEWS_GATEWAY_FILE (Alexander Wilkie) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Elvish Fonts Date: 27 Dec 1993 11:15:28 GMT Organization: Technical University Vienna, Austria Message-ID: <2fmg4g$t32@email.tuwien.ac.at> Are there any genuine (NOT Boecklin and the like) elvish or rune PS-fonts available that conform to the definitions in the appendix to "Lord of the Rings"? Public domain preferred, but hints to commercial offerings are also appreciated. Please tell A.W. *********************************************************** * _ * Alexander Wilkie * * / \ \ / * wilkie@cslab.tuwien.ac.at * * /---\ \ /\ / * Technical University Vienna * * / \ \/ \/ * Austria / Europe * * * (NeXTMail o.k.) * ***********************************************************
From: robert@amo.mit.edu(Robert Lutwak) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Anybody running 2.x ? Date: 27 Dec 1993 13:21:38 GMT Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology Message-ID: <2fmnh2$os6@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Hi. Is there anybody out there running NS 2.0 or 2.1 who can NeXTmail me the "on" command? I just discovered that my optical drive is broken when I went to get "on" from my 2.1 distribution OD. I know it's archaic (and possibly a security risk), but I need to talk with an old IBM machine that doesn't support rexec. Thanks, Robert -- Robert Lutwak robert@amo.mit.edu MIT Atomic Resonance and Spectroscopy Laboratory --- Everything I say via this computer belongs to MIT. --- ---> NeXTmail always welcome <---
From: brunkhorst@mayo.edu (Geoff Brunkhorst) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Grinched! Date: 27 Dec 1993 14:53:38 GMT Organization: Mayo Foundation Distribution: world Message-ID: <2fmsti$opb@fermat.mayo.edu> References: <1993Dec25.025121.19325@csus.edu> In article <1993Dec25.025121.19325@csus.edu> eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) writes: > Not too surprisingly, I've received a flood of mail in response > to this posting. > > There were several offers from faraway places to send me copies, > and more confirmations that other local customers are in the same > situation. It's really up to NeXT to make good on this, and I > can't officially accept "loaners" from unauthorized sources. > This is unfortunate. I asked for and got from NeXT a FedEx 2nd day air shipment last week of both 3.2 Developer and User for Black, buy referencing just 2 facts: 1) I was part of the lost upgrades in October 2) That x>30 right-to-use licences were tied to this CD distribution. NeXT Inc. Sales sent this out. The Buffalo office has no capacity in bumpiong the prioritization. - Geoff ----------------------------------------------------------------- Geoffrey Brunkhorst brunkhorst@Mayo.edu Research Computing Facility, Guggenheim 10 (507) 284-1805 Mayo Foundation, Rochester MN, 55905, USA fax (507) 284-5231
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: titmouse!bshirley (C. William Shirley) Subject: Re: Saving mail as ASCII text? Message-ID: <1993Dec27.033926.15749@gleap.jpunix.com> Sender: bshirley@gleap.jpunix.com Organization: The Republic of Texas References: <westesCIK8zE.Dq9@netcom.com> Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1993 03:39:26 GMT I haven't seen anyone offer the easy answer. First of all, when you copy something, it copies all of the possible types to the pboard. This includes ascii and RTF for Mail.app. (lazy copying is another issue) When you paste, your program generally pastes the most appropriate/ highest definition type. In the case mentioned this is RTF. In Edit there is a menu option which is "Format->Text->Make Rich Text" or "Format->Text->Make Ascii", depending on the current document's format. The key equivalent is command-shift-R. If you copy and paste into edit, use the "Make Ascii" and then save, you will have the mail message in ascii. - bill -- Home: BShirley@GLeap.sccsi.com Houston Work: Bill_Shirley@atg.WilTel.com v713.364.4124
From: robert@amo.mit.edu (Robert Lutwak) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <2fmnh2$os6@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Control: cancel <2fmnh2$os6@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Date: 27 Dec 1993 16:30:12 GMT Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology Message-ID: <2fn2ik$3lh@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> 9368 cancelled from NewsGrazer. -- Robert Lutwak robert@amo.mit.edu MIT Atomic Resonance and Spectroscopy Laboratory --- Everything I say via this computer belongs to MIT. --- ---> NeXTmail always welcome <---
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: tmaas@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Tony Maas) Subject: Re: Grinched! Sender: news@rchland.ibm.com Message-ID: <1993Dec27.174623.12314@rchland.ibm.com> Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1993 17:46:23 GMT Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM References: <1993Dec25.025121.19325@csus.edu> <2fmsti$opb@fermat.mayo.edu> Organization: IBM Rochester In article <2fmsti$opb@fermat.mayo.edu>, brunkhorst@mayo.edu (Geoff Brunkhorst) writes: |> In article <1993Dec25.025121.19325@csus.edu> eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. |> Scott) writes: |> > Not too surprisingly, I've received a flood of mail in response |> > to this posting. |> > |> > There were several offers from faraway places to send me copies, |> > and more confirmations that other local customers are in the same |> > situation. It's really up to NeXT to make good on this, and I |> > can't officially accept "loaners" from unauthorized sources. |> > |> |> This is unfortunate. I asked for and got from NeXT a FedEx 2nd day |> air shipment last week of both 3.2 Developer and User for Black, buy |> referencing just 2 facts: |> |> 1) I was part of the lost upgrades in October |> 2) That x>30 right-to-use licences were tied to this |> CD distribution. |> |> NeXT Inc. Sales sent this out. The Buffalo office has no capacity in |> bumpiong the prioritization. |> |> |> |> - Geoff But what about those of us who are single-user licenses???? I've had my 3.1 registered for months, plus I called in to NeXT and left a message(800-848-NeXT), plus I've sent an email message to upgradestatus@next.com, all with no response so far. I realize it's the holiday season, but there is just no excuse. Merry Christmas. Tony Maas tmaas@vnet.ibm.com
From: kkoym@pencom.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Wang Compatibilty, LightSpeed Solution needed Date: 27 Dec 1993 20:01:15 GMT Organization: Pencom Sofware Message-ID: <2fneub$jfk@digdug.pencom.com> Keywords: Wang lightspeed information request A while back there was a solution for filesharing and terminal emulation between Wang Systems and NeXT. It has been about 6 months since I have heard anything about this solution. If you have any information about it, please drop me a line on whatever information you have to my email at kkoym@pencom.com. Any information at all would be helpful- experience that you have had with the solution, contact names, company names, etc. Thanks, Kevin Koym Pencom Software
From: kkoym@pencom.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Wang Compatibilty, LightSpeed Solution needed Date: 27 Dec 1993 20:01:31 GMT Organization: Pencom Sofware Message-ID: <2fneur$jfl@digdug.pencom.com> Keywords: Wang lightspeed information request A while back there was a solution for filesharing and terminal emulation between Wang Systems and NeXT. It has been about 6 months since I have heard anything about this solution. If you have any information about it, please drop me a line on whatever information you have to my email at kkoym@pencom.com. Any information at all would be helpful- experience that you have had with the solution, contact names, company names, etc. Thanks, Kevin Koym Pencom Software
From: madler@cco.caltech.edu (Mark Adler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: basic question re: tar.gz files Date: 27 Dec 1993 20:19:21 GMT Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena Message-ID: <2fng09$lk8@gap.cco.caltech.edu> References: <2f7d3i$4cv@marble.Britain.EU.net> <2fd46r$r16@chuangtsu.acns.carleton.edu> <1993Dec24.033513.14224@csus.edu> <2fg2bj$fo0@Tandem.CAM.ORG> >> BTW, is there anything seriously wrong with v1.0.7? EPS seems to imply this No, there is nothing wrong with 1.0.7. EPS has made similar implications, but I have no idea what he's talking about. There is no problem whatsoever with data integrity in using 1.0.7 or for that matter, any version of gzip. The compression code therein had already experienced wide use in the free zip and unzip products, and so any serious bugs had disappeared long before gzip was imagined. mark
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: horshack@lisa.franken.de (Richard Lippmann) Subject: Looking 4: screensaver Message-ID: <CIntKK.o6@lisa.franken.de> Organization: Individual Network Germany Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1993 20:43:32 GMT I'm looking for a (nice) screensaver on NSI 3.1. PD or Freeware would be nice! Thanks Horshack -- <- Richard Lippmann Tel. voice: +49+911+69.84.58 Langenaeckerstrasse 6 Fax +49+911+69.99.563 D-90522 Oberasbach horshack@lisa.franken.de (NeXTmail welcome!) Franken, Germany -> Old german law: Nur Beamte koennen wie Beamte denken!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: horshack@lisa.franken.de (Richard Lippmann) Subject: Looking 4: Terminalprogram Message-ID: <CIntM8.oz@lisa.franken.de> Organization: Individual Network Germany Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1993 20:44:32 GMT Im also looking for a terminalprogram 4 NSI 3.1, any hints? Thanks Horshack -- <- Richard Lippmann Tel. voice: +49+911+69.84.58 Langenaeckerstrasse 6 Fax +49+911+69.99.563 D-90522 Oberasbach horshack@lisa.franken.de (NeXTmail welcome!) Franken, Germany -> Old german law: Nur Beamte koennen wie Beamte denken!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: afm@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Andreas Mueller) Subject: Databases for NeXTstep Message-ID: <1993Dec27.213338.28268@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> Sender: news@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (NetNews) Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany Date: Mon, 27 Dec 93 21:33:38 GMT I'm looking for a relational database system for my black station, and I would like to get an idea about prices of the various offerings. Does anyone have experiences he/she would be willing to share? (I know there is university ingres for fre but my queries have become too complicated for it to handle) Any suggestions? Thanks in advance Andreas Mueller ------------------------------------------------- Dr. Andreas Mueller <afm@othello.ch> Mathematisches Institut der Universitaet Im Neuenheimer Feld 288 D - 69120 Heidelberg
From: disc@vector.intercon.com (David Casti) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: zsh? Date: 27 Dec 1993 22:57:26 GMT Organization: InterCon Systems Corporation, Herndon, VA, USA Message-ID: <2fnp8m$90p@news.intercon.com> Hi folks, I'm trying to get zsh for my black cube running 3.1. I've seen other people post about it, but I couldn't find it on any of the next FTP sites. If someone has a binary or can tell me what to do to the source to make it compile, I'd be much obliged. Thanks, David.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: kenny@niagara.ucs.ualberta.ca (Kenny Leung) Subject: Re: Doom NeXT vs. Doom DOS Message-ID: <1993Dec27.232940.23511@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada References: <1993Dec25.193602.5980@seer.demon.co.uk> Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1993 23:29:40 GMT I have nothing but respect and admiration for the guy(s) who wrote DOOM. There is no real reason why he should have prototyped DOOM on NeXT other than the fact that he thinks it's cool. You gotta respect a sense of coolness. They have also done the computer world a great favor in proving that you can have major mayhem on a multitasking windowing computer besides an SGI machine. (This said with all due respect to Sam Streeper.) When the final release for DOOM comes out for the machine you are using, I suggest we all put our money where our mouths are, and PAY the guy for his work. Maybe if he gets enough support, the games will not stop at DOOM. I definitely will. --- Kenny Leung University of Alberta kenny@niagara.ucs.ualberta.ca Ph: 403-492-9343 Fax: 403-492-1729 |------------------------------------------------|\ | Ex-Ex-Ex-NeXT | "The best software company | \ | Campus Consultant | in the world." | \ |------------------------------------------------| \ | Silicon Graphics | "The best hardware company | \ NintendoSTEP! | Campus Consultant | in the world." | / |------------------------------------------------| / | Super Nintendo | "The only system with | / | Owner | Super Mario." | / |------------------------------------------------|/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: nomura@zen.uta.edu (Seiichi Nomura) Subject: sound in Mosaic Message-ID: <NOMURA.93Dec27170927@zen.uta.edu> Sender: news@news.uta.edu (USENET News System) Organization: /users/nomura/.organization Distribution: comp Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1993 23:09:27 GMT I am running Mosaic-Next under co-Xist. Everything works fine except that I am not able to play sound files. Any help is greatly appreciated !! -- ------------------------------------------------- Seiichi Nomura ($@LnB<Lw0l(J) Mechanical Engineering Department nomura@zen.uta.edu University of Texas at Arlington Arlington, Texas 76019-0023 +1-817-273-2012 (auto voice/fax/msg)
From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Looking 4: screensaver Date: 28 Dec 1993 00:16:50 GMT Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <2fntti$so3@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> References: <CIntKK.o6@lisa.franken.de> Richard Lippmann writes > I'm looking for a (nice) screensaver on NSI 3.1. PD or Freeware > would be nice! look on your hard disk: /NextDeveloper/Demos/BackSpace.app -- - Stefano Pagiola Food Research Institute, Stanford University spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged) spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Looking 4: Terminalprogram Message-ID: <2fntv5$so9@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> Date: 28 Dec 93 00:17:41 GMT References: <CIntM8.oz@lisa.franken.de> Organization: Stanford University Richard Lippmann writes > Im also looking for a terminalprogram 4 NSI 3.1, any hints? What's wrong with /NextApps/Terminal.app? -- - Stefano Pagiola Food Research Institute, Stanford University spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged) spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
From: xinwei@otter.Stanford.EDU (Sha Xin Wei) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: NS 3.2 - floptical disk problem? Date: 28 Dec 1993 00:40:19 GMT Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <2fnv9j$ssc@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> I installed NS 3.2 on a Motorola 68040 Cube, inserted an optical disk, initialized under 3.0 with files from a 3.1 (Motorola). The cube reported an error ("Disk is damaged...repair, eject?") so I asked it to repair. Repair failed. I ejected the floptical and brought it back to the NS 3.0 cube. The 3.0 cube could not read the floptical. fsck failed because could not find a valid superblock. I tried to inspect with /etc/disk, but scan reported no superblocks. Any suggestions would be much appreciated! Sha Xin Wei ASD Stanford University Some error msgs: from /usr/adm/messages Dec 27 14:05:12 otter mach: od0?: write failed (ECC) block 246884 phys block 246886 (19579:0:6) Dec 27 14:11:09 otter mach: od0a: drive command failed (ECC) block 0 phys block 0 (4149:0:0) Dec 27 14:24:59 otter mach: od0a: read recover (ECC) block 77 phys block 77 (4153:0:13) Dec 27 14:24:59 otter last message repeated 3 times From a session using /etc/disk: disk> label label information: print, write? pr current label information on disk: disk label version #3 disk label: SHAarchive1 disk name: omd-1 disk type: removable_rw_optical ncyls 1029 ntrack 15 nsect 16 rpm 3000 sector_size 1024 front_porch 256 back_porch 256 ngroups 154 ag_size 1600 ag_alts 16 ag_off 784 boot blocks: #1 at 80 #2 at 168 bootfile: odmach host name: otter root partition: a part base size bsize fsize cpg density minfree newfs optim automount type a 0 243936 8192 1024 3 4096 5% yes time yes 4.3BSD disk> bad bad block table: print, edit, write, stats? pr entry(ag,#): bad_block->alternate entries not listed are available 0(0,0): 247675->1040 1(0,1): 248172->1041 2(0,2): 248188->1042 3(0,3): 249718->1043 4(0,4): 250273->1044 96(6,0): 11439->10640 144(9,0): 15526->15440 240(15,0): 24780->25040 288(18,0): 29950->29840 352(22,0): 36259->36240 353(22,1): 36677->36241 354(22,2): 36693->36242 384(24,0): 39657->39440 512(32,0): 51887->52240 513(32,1): 51907->52241 514(32,2): 52874->52242 624(39,0): 63410->63440 672(42,0): 68582->68240 784(49,0): 79690->79440 816(51,0): 82738->82640 848(53,0): 86367->85840 912(57,0): 92957->92240 928(58,0): 94098->93840 960(60,0): 96831->97040 961(60,1): 96847->97041 1008(63,0): 101388->101840 1009(63,1): 102572->101841 1072(67,0): 108809->108240 1152(72,0): 115569->116240 1153(72,1): 116387->116241 1154(72,2): 116403->116242 1248(78,0): 125807->125840 1264(79,0): 126713->127440 1408(88,0): 141570->141840 1409(88,1): 141586->141841 1504(94,0): 152115->151440 1584(99,0): 159409->159440 1600(100,0): 161644->161040 1776(111,0): 178420->178640 1824(114,0): 183865->183440 1825(114,1): 184195->183441 1840(115,0): 184995->185040 1952(122,0): 196802->196240 1953(122,1): 196989->196241 1954(122,2): 197005->196242 2000(125,0): 200783->201040 2016(126,0): 202898->202640 2017(126,1): 203291->202641 2018(126,2): 203307->202642 2080(130,0): 208371->209040 2112(132,0): 212618->212240 2144(134,0): 215450->215440 2160(135,0): 216389->217040 2161(135,1): 217431->217041 2272(142,0): 227578->228240 2304(144,0): 230994->231440 2416(151,0): 242123->242640 2417(151,1): 242259->242641 2432(152,0): 243901->244240 2433(152,1): 244293->244241 2448(153,0): 246066->245840 disk> bad bad block table: print, edit, write, stats? st 61/2512 ( 2.4%) alternate blocks used
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Folke Edman) Subject: Re: zsh? In-Reply-To: disc@vector.intercon.com's message of 27 Dec 1993 22:57:26 GMT Message-ID: <CEDMAN.93Dec27195134@phoenix.Princeton.EDU> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University References: <2fnp8m$90p@news.intercon.com> Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1993 00:51:34 GMT In article <2fnp8m$90p@news.intercon.com> disc@vector.intercon.com (David Casti) writes: I'm trying to get zsh for my black cube running 3.1. I've seen other people post about it, but I couldn't find it on any of the next FTP sites. If someone has a binary or can tell me what to do to the source to make it compile, I'd be much obliged. Look in ftp.sterling.com:zsh . No binaries, but complete sources both the latest beta release and the last full release. Compilation is either automatic on the NeXT or requires some minor tweaking -- it oscillates by patch level (both for NS and zsh). Carl Edman
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: SoftPC/Intel Thrashes on FSA=DOS Partition Date: 28 Dec 1993 01:48:59 GMT Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office Message-ID: <2fo3ab$l7s@news.mic.ucla.edu> I was told by Insignia that assigning the true DOS partition to the Insignia D: drive is currently not working for SoftPC, and I should instead assign it to E: (FSA drive). Unfortunately, whenever I now access E:, I get real bad thrashing for about 1 minute, which stops when I hide SoftPC and continues when I bring it back up. I should not that I have a 40MB machine. Is this a known problem? Also, as far as I understand, Windows programs typically code absolute file locations, including drive. When I boot DOS, my DOS partition is drive is C:. When I boot SoftPC, the DOS partition will be either D: or E:, and thus my windows programs that run when booted from DOS have problems. Is there a known workaround? Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu Asst Prof of Finance iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu AGSM at UCLA
From: jhhl@panix.com (Henry Lowengard) Newsgroups: comp.music,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXT *compressed* .snd files -- help needed Date: 27 Dec 1993 20:54:57 -0500 Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC Distribution: inet Message-ID: <2fo3lh$5j5@panix.com> References: <CIH6ns.32on@hawnews.watson.ibm.com> In <CIH6ns.32on@hawnews.watson.ibm.com> petrack@vnet.ibm.com writes: >I have a NeXT .snd file, which I would dearly love to hear. I have no NeXT. I was able to >read the header, from information in news.answers, and it seems that the magic number in >the format field is 19, which means SND_FORMAT_COMPRESSED (16-bit linear with compression). >Can someone point me to a program which can deal with such compressed data? I have access to >Macs, PC, Suns, RISC/6000 (but sadly not yet Next) >Scott Petrack seen at shutdown of AIX 3.2: >Petrack@haifasc3.vnet.ibm.com "Wait for '...Halt completed...' before halting..." Uh-oh, Scott, NeXT compressed format is a tricky devil! it breaks up the signal into frames, analyzes the frames into frequency bands, picks 40 of em and encodes that, then moves to the next frame... in realtime! Decoding this means a sort of additive synthesis coupled with decompression. Usually, this is used with 8-bit sound, but the math is the same for 16-bit. here's he sad news from the NeXT atcsound.h file (excerpt) int SNDGetNumberOfATCBands(int *nBandsP); /* * Get number of frequency bands used by ATC (40 in release 3.0). * The band frequencies correspond roughly to the critical * bands of hearing. Band 0 is "D.C.", meaning it is centered * at 0 Hz. At higher frequencies the bands are wider and * spaced farther apart. The band width and spacing are approximately * 20% of the band center-frequency above 500 Hz, and uniform * below 500 Hz. These remarks apply to the standard 44.1 kHz sampling rate. * At other sampling rates, the bands frequencies are scaled so that the same * number of bands covers 0 Hz to half the sampling rate, whatever it is. */ BTW, were someone to write a good interface to deal with the (fully documented) structure of the sounds, they would have a wild sound manipulation tool, which NeXT would be able to play in real time! -- +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | jhhl @panix.com Henry Lowengard 43 W16 #2D NYC 10011-6320 USA | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: irving@Happy-Man.com (Irving_Wolfe) Subject: Re: zsh? Message-ID: <1993Dec28.011941.2339@Happy-Man.com> Organization: Happy Man Corp, 4410 Pt Robinson, Vashon, WA 98070 206/463-9399 References: <2fnp8m$90p@news.intercon.com> Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1993 01:19:41 GMT In <2fnp8m$90p@news.intercon.com> disc@vector.intercon.com (David Casti) writes: >I'm trying to get zsh for my black cube running 3.1. I've seen other >people post about it, but I couldn't find it on any of the next FTP >sites. It's not a specifically "Next" program. Ftp the source from ftp.sterling.com in the zsh directory. I think the current state of 2.4 is usable (it's a "beta" version); otherwise, the older, released version is there too. >If someone has a binary or can tell me what to do to the source >to make it compile, I'd be much obliged. Read all the documentation; if you still can't compile it, ask again for a binary, I guess. -- Irving_Wolfe@Happy-Man.com 206/463-9399 x101 fax 206/463-9255 Happy Man Corp. 4410 SW Pt. Robinson Rd., Vashon, WA 98070-7399 In SOLID VALUE, we show intelligent investors under-priced stocks Printed Info Free: Send POSTAL address: Solid-Value@Happy-Man.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: kosmatoo@JSP.UMontreal.CA (Kosmatos Odisseas) Subject: Re: Doom NeXT vs. Doom DOS Message-ID: <CIq8r2.K73@cc.umontreal.ca> Sender: news@cc.umontreal.ca (Administration de Cnews) Organization: Universite de Montreal References: <1993Dec25.193602.5980@seer.demon.co.uk> <1993Dec27.232940.23511@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1993 04:06:36 GMT Kenny Leung (kenny@niagara.ucs.ualberta.ca) wrote: : When the final release for DOOM comes out for the machine you are : using, I suggest we all put our money where our mouths are, and PAY : the guy for his work. Maybe if he gets enough support, the games : will not stop at DOOM. : I definitely will. Most definetly. Although is it to much to ask that it work on a Mono NeXT? Perhaps we'll get a surprise! : --- : Kenny Leung : University of Alberta : kenny@niagara.ucs.ualberta.ca : Ph: 403-492-9343 : Fax: 403-492-1729 : |------------------------------------------------|\ : | Ex-Ex-Ex-NeXT | "The best software company | \ : | Campus Consultant | in the world." | \ : |------------------------------------------------| \ : | Silicon Graphics | "The best hardware company | \ NintendoSTEP! : | Campus Consultant | in the world." | / : |------------------------------------------------| / : | Super Nintendo | "The only system with | / : | Owner | Super Mario." | / : |------------------------------------------------|/ -- <-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-> |o Long live o| | Odisseas Kosmatos email: kosmatoo@jsp.umontreal.ca | |o NeXTstep! o| <-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-> "The force is used for knowledge and defense. Never for attack." --Yoda
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: kosmatoo@JSP.UMontreal.CA (Kosmatos Odisseas) Subject: Re: Looking 4: Terminalprogram Message-ID: <CIq8ww.K93@cc.umontreal.ca> Sender: news@cc.umontreal.ca (Administration de Cnews) Organization: Universite de Montreal References: <CIntM8.oz@lisa.franken.de> <2fntv5$so9@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1993 04:10:07 GMT Stefano Pagiola (spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu) wrote: : Richard Lippmann writes : > Im also looking for a terminalprogram 4 NSI 3.1, any hints? : What's wrong with /NextApps/Terminal.app? Come on... Terminal.app can't access the modem, dial out for you, or do zmodem without having to go fetch 'kermit' and 'sz' and 'rz'... I use Terminal.app now... but seriously, you really have to work at setting it up first. It's not a "terminal.app" unless you get the pieces it needs.. : -- : - : Stefano Pagiola : Food Research Institute, Stanford University : spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged) : spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged) -- <-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-> |o Long live o| | Odisseas Kosmatos email: kosmatoo@jsp.umontreal.ca | |o NeXTstep! o| <-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-> "The force is used for knowledge and defense. Never for attack." --Yoda
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dgursky@nextsrv1.andi.org (David Gursky) Subject: Disk editor... Message-ID: <CIp9HH.GJB@nextsrv1.andi.org> Summary: Is there an app for inspecting disk blocks and building files from same? Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1993 15:24:53 GMT Is there an application that will allow me to inspect the contents of a specified block on a disk (either mounted or not) and then move that block into a file, or to "create" a file consisting of that block (or better still, that will allow me to append the block to an existing file? dg -- David M. Gursky MIME and NEXTMAIL accepted Synex, inc. e-mail: .. dgursky@nextsrv1.andi.org 8601 Georgia Avenue voice: ............. (301) 621-5732 Silver Spring, MD 20917 fax: ............. (301) 621-6005
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch) Subject: Re: Doom NeXT vs. Doom DOS Message-ID: <1993Dec28.090724.10795@seer.demon.co.uk> Sender: paul@seer.demon.co.uk Organization: P & L Systems References: <1993Dec27.232940.23511@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1993 09:07:24 GMT In article <1993Dec27.232940.23511@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> kenny@niagara.ucs.ualberta.ca (Kenny Leung) writes: > I have nothing but respect and admiration for the guy(s) who wrote > DOOM. There is no real reason why he should have prototyped DOOM on > NeXT other than the fact that he thinks it's cool. You gotta respect > a sense of coolness. To hazard a guess, they are getting the same sort of leverage that the corporate MCCA customers of NeXTSTEP are getting. It doesn't apply to the final stage in the development process (the port to DOS), but it most certainly applies to all of the tools that they develop to help them create the game (map editors and the like). Paul -- Paul Lynch P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk Tel: (0494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green, Fax: (0494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: CCGREG@mizzou1.missouri.edu (Greg Johnson) Subject: Re: sound in Mosaic Message-ID: <16CB27B4F.CCGREG@mizzou1.missouri.edu> Sender: news@mont.cs.missouri.edu Organization: University of Missouri References: <NOMURA.93Dec27170927@zen.uta.edu> Date: Tue, 28 Dec 93 08:46:01 CST In article <NOMURA.93Dec27170927@zen.uta.edu> nomura@zen.uta.edu (Seiichi Nomura) writes: >I am running Mosaic-Next under co-Xist. >Everything works fine except that I am not able to play sound files. This works for me with Mouse-X. Put in X bin or in /usr/local/bin a symbolic link: ln -s /usr/bin/sndplay showaudio
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: abe@vic.cc.purdue.edu (Vic Abell) Subject: Re: man page -> PS (How?) Message-ID: <CIrC36.I77@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> Sender: news@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (USENET News) Organization: Purdue University References: <1993Dec27.030326.810@sol.UVic.CA> Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1993 18:16:18 GMT In article <1993Dec27.030326.810@sol.UVic.CA> mohenly@malahat.library.uvic.ca (Michael O'Henly) writes: > For reasons that are too complicated and boring to explain, I need to >find a way to convert man pages from their native format to PostScript so >that my wife can print them on her office (Apple) printer. Try: ptroff -man -t ...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) Subject: MAB AppsoftDraw? Message-ID: <1993Dec28.193503.2611@cs.yale.edu> Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News) Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1993 19:35:03 GMT Did AppsoftDraw (v1.02) ever ship in a MAB/Intel version? -- Nathan Janette Voice: 203 432 5065 Systems Manager Fax: 203 432 3923 Brunger Lab Internet: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu Yale Univ Dept MB&B/HHMI "I'm a NeXTstep Man, I'm a NeXTcube Guy"
From: jamastro@indyvax.iupui.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Specialized Image Viewer needed Message-ID: <1993Dec28.181029.3042@ivax> Date: 28 Dec 93 18:10:29 -0500 I am in need of a graphic file viewer for .igs files. This is typically used in the automotive parts manufacturing industry and is a 3D file format. Auto Cad can read and render the files in 2D. Is there such a product for the NeXT platform? Could it be translated into RenderMan format? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.text.tex From: hickman@cwis.unomaha.edu (Betty Hickman) Subject: Bold-face math italic Greek letters in Tex on a NeXT Message-ID: <hickman.757126490@cwis> Sender: news@news.unomaha.edu (UNO Network News Server) Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1993 00:54:50 GMT I'm having trouble making bold-face math italic Greek letters in TeX on my NeXT. When I used Textures on a Mac the following worked: \def\bmit{\fam9} \mathchardef\boldlambda="7115 \def\blambda{\bmit \boldlambda} When I try this on my NeXT, I get the following message: \textfont 9 is undefined (character ^^O). Is there way around this problem? Thanks for any suggestions. -Betty Hickman hickman@felix.unomaha.edu [NeXTMail accepted]
From: ravir@rigel.tamu.edu (Ravi R. - CSC Vectorization/Parallelization) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Missing cursor. Date: 28 Dec 1993 22:03 CDT Organization: Texas A&M University OpenVMScluster Distribution: world Message-ID: <28DEC199322031216@rigel.tamu.edu> News-Software: OpenVMS/VAX VNEWS 1.41 Hi Folks, For some reason, the mouse cursor has disappeared on my NeXTStation Turbo. The cursor I am referring to is the one that I use to select applications from the dock, files from the browser etc. Six other people have access to this workstation and one of them may have turned off the cursor - I don't know how to turn it back on and I cannot ask any of them because they are away for the holidays. I found a tiff image of the cursor in Workspace.app/genericCursor.tiff. Can anyone tell me how I can make the cursor reappear ? A dwrite perhaps ? Thanks for any help and sorry if I sound vague. sincerely -Ravi R. +----------------------+-------------------+----------------------------------+ | ravi ramachandran | ravir@tamu.edu | computing & information services | | texas a&m university | ph (409) 847 UNIX | vectorization/parallelization | +----------------------+-------------------+----------------------------------+
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: steve@eps.RAIN.COM (Steve Kornreich) Subject: Mouse X For Intel?? Sender: news@percy.rain.com (News maintainer) Organization: /etc/organization Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1993 03:37:49 GMT Message-ID: <CIs232.Irr@percy.rain.com> Is there a version of Mouse X for Intel?? -- Steve Kornreich steve@eps.rain.com NeXT Mail OK..
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: kent@infoserv.com Subject: Re: SoundWorks: PasteSpecial Message-ID: <CIs8Hn.K8@infoserv.com> Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard) Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting References: <1993Dec22.221922.386@rolfhh.hanse.de> Distribution: na Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1993 05:56:11 GMT In article <1993Dec22.221922.386@rolfhh.hanse.de> rolf@rolfhh.hanse.de (Rolf Woehrmann) writes: #Hi! # #I use SoundWorks 3.0(v2) on black hardware with NS 3.2. When I select #"PasteSpecial" the panel appears but missing the little edit-view in the #envelope-box. Clicking the paste button inside has no effect. Selecting #"PasteSpecial" again or hitting command-V performs an ordinary paste. I like #the concept of PasteSpecial, but how can I get it work? It doesn't work. I was/am a beta tester for SoundWorks and there were a few that took priority over the "paste Special" function . During the time that the program was initially going to be released the original developer was leaving. MetaResearch has hire some very good and competent developers and if you send them mail telling them that you really need the feature I'm quite sure they will be responsive and get it working as soon as they have the time. Anyway until the you can use the regular cut and paste. If you need to play with the level of each paste then copy to an empty edit windo and play with the level them paste back into the file. You can also split the file and mark the region that you want repeated and put multiple copies into the mix window on separate tracks. Good luck, kent -- /* K.L. Shephard Consulting is my company. Infoserv only delivers my mail. */ /* Please direct mail to kent@infoserv.com other adresses may not work. */
From: silbar@cantina.lanl.gov (Dick Silbar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Bold-face math italic Greek letters in Tex on a NeXT Date: 29 Dec 1993 11:18:11 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9312291718.AA04486@cantina.lanl.gov> Betty Hickman wrote: I'm having trouble making bold-face math italic Greek letters in TeX on my NeXT.... I have a boldgreek.tex \input file that works fine on NeXTs, and can e-mail it to people who want it. Dick Silbar WhistleSoft, Inc.
From: citdem@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (MCCOLLAM, DON) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Icon-like software Message-ID: <29DEC199311241365@violet.ccit.arizona.edu> Date: 29 Dec 93 18:24:00 GMT Organization: University of Arizona News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41 Hi. A while back I posted seeking advice on image conversion and Icon-like image manipulation (or "painter") software. Everyone seems to feel that PixelMagician is great for image conversion. But no one answered the "painter" software question. So, here I am again. What is a good Icon replacement? I want to be able to create and modify tiffs (at a pixel level) of any (but setable) size - i.e. I may be creating icons or "touching up" a scanned b/w image. Suggestions appreciated. I'm also interested in getting ACCURATE OCR software. I have OCR Servant, but I'd like something more accurate. Any ideas? Don McCollam citdem@happy.rc.arizona.edu (ASCII only)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch) Subject: Re: Icon-like software Message-ID: <1993Dec29.211330.14075@seer.demon.co.uk> Sender: paul@seer.demon.co.uk Organization: P & L Systems References: <29DEC199311241365@violet.ccit.arizona.edu> Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1993 21:13:30 GMT In article <29DEC199311241365@violet.ccit.arizona.edu> citdem@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (MCCOLLAM, DON) writes: > Hi. A while back I posted seeking advice on image conversion and Icon-like > image manipulation (or "painter") software. Everyone seems to feel that > PixelMagician is great for image conversion. But no one answered the > "painter" software question. So, here I am again. What is a good Icon > replacement? I want to be able to create and modify tiffs (at a pixel > level) of any (but setable) size - i.e. I may be creating icons or "touching > up" a scanned b/w image. Suggestions appreciated. People on the next-icon list seem to favour TIFFany, although WetPaint gets occasional mentions as well. > I'm also interested in getting ACCURATE OCR software. I have OCR Servant, > but I'd like something more accurate. Any ideas? I've been looking in to this. First I'll say that I suspect that OCR Servant will be improved shortly (I hope). Apart from that, you can look at: eXTRAREAD (info@goldleaf.com); OCR Express (info@visus.com); and ElectroWorX (info@insight.com). All offer more powerful OCR engines, and are either close to release, or are recently released. Paul -- Paul Lynch P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk Tel: (0494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green, Fax: (0494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc From: dushyant@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Dushyant Pathak) Subject: SBook for the mac? Message-ID: <1993Dec29.213821.11908@cs.yale.edu> Keywords: SBook, NeXT and Mac compatible address book Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News) Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1993 21:38:21 GMT Does anyone know if there is a version of SBook or any similar address book program that will also work on Macintosh hardware? Thanks --Dushyant__ -- *********************************************************************** Dushyant Pathak * phone: 203-432-9771 MB&B Department * 203-432-5066 Yale University * fax: 203-432-3923 266 Whitney Avenue * New Haven, CT 06511 * email: dushyant@laplace.csb.yale.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dushyant@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Dushyant Pathak) Subject: SBook and Mac Message-ID: <1993Dec29.214211.11982@cs.yale.edu> Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News) Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1993 21:42:11 GMT Does anyone know if there is a version of SBook or any similar address book software that will run on a Macintosh? Thanks --Dushyant__ -- *********************************************************************** Dushyant Pathak * phone: 203-432-9771 MB&B Department * 203-432-5066 Yale University * fax: 203-432-3923 266 Whitney Avenue * New Haven, CT 06511 * email: dushyant@laplace.csb.yale.edu
From: rjackson@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Randy W Jackson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: upgrading to 3.2 Date: 29 Dec 1993 21:51:38 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <2fsu5a$nkt@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> I have upgraded to 3.1 user, and am preparing to upgrade to 3.2 user and developer. Do I need to upgrade to 3.1 dev prior to upgrading to 3.2 dev? Thanks, Randy J. jackson+@osu.edu
From: gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: What Scanners and SW for Turbo Slab? Date: 29 Dec 1993 22:01:13 GMT Organization: University of Maryland, College Park Message-ID: <2fsun9$jc3@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> I'd like to use an HP IIcx scanner for bw images and OCR work with my NS Turbo slab. Has anyone done this? What software can I use? I don't want to buy another sort of scanner, really. Must I get a Mac for this? Thanks R. de Lucca The Johns Hopkins University
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NS/INtel Message-ID: <1993Dec29.171549.571@news.wesleyan.edu> From: lipton@eagle.wesleyan.edu (Jim Lipton) Date: 29 Dec 93 17:15:48 -0400 Sender: lipton@allegory (Jim Lipton) Distribution: world I have had a gread deal of trouble finding sources/binaries/docs for the Intel version of Next step on sonata.cc.purdue or cs.orst.edu There are no directories for Intel. Is is that pub domain/demos don't exist yet for this platform, or am I looking in the wrong place. There ought to be some listing of all the NS/intel 3.2 coompatible software. I'm especially interested in an Emacs interface similar to the Emacs programs available for the black box (when I was using it 2 years ago, w. v 2.0), SLIP, modem software, etc. ANY POINTERS would be appreciated. Also, any documentation that would help writing patches for C-sources that were easily ported to the black box would be appreciated. Thanks. Jim Lipton ---------------------------------------------------------------- Dept. of Mathematics (home:) Wesleyan University 12 Knowles Ave. Ext. Middletown CT 06459-0128 Middletown, CT 06457 (203) 347-9411 (203) 344-0552 fax:(203)343-3903 (indicate Math Dept. on fax) ================================================================ e-mail: lipton@allegory.cs.wesleyan.edu or: jlipton@eagle.wesleyan.edu ================================================================
Control: cancel <hickman.757126490@cwis> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: hickman@cwis.unomaha.edu (Betty Hickman) Subject: cancel <hickman.757126490@cwis> Message-ID: <1993Dec30.003553.28714@news.unomaha.edu> Sender: news@news.unomaha.edu (UNO Network News Server) Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1993 00:35:53 GMT cancel <hickman.757126490@cwis> in newsgroup comp.sys.next.software
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dpeter@hsd.com (David W. Peter) Subject: Re: What Scanners and SW for Turbo Slab? Message-ID: <CItn98.A8v@beach.com> Sender: dpeter@beach.com (David Peter) Organization: HSD U.S. Inc., S.D. References: <2fsun9$jc3@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1993 00:12:43 GMT In article <2fsun9$jc3@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks) writes: > I'd like to use an HP IIcx scanner for bw images > and OCR work with my NS Turbo slab. Has anyone done > this? What software can I use? I don't want to buy > another sort of scanner, really. Must I get a > Mac for this? > > Thanks > > R. de Lucca > The Johns Hopkins University > There are several options available. HSD's PowerScan software does not currently support HP Scanners but will soon, as well as Epson, Microtek, Fujitsu, Ricoh and others. PowerScan currently supports all models of HSD and Umax scanners. OCR Servant, HSD's award-winning optical character recognition sotware, is hardware independent and will work with any scanner or software you chose. You definitely do not need to get a Mac... I'm sending HSD product info to you via email directly. If others are interested, please send a request to me via email. Happy Holidays. -- Sincerely, David W. Peter dpeter@hsd.com (NeXTmail) HSD Inc. Ph. (408) 774-1400 Fax (408) 774-1402 -- Sincerely, David W. Peter HSD Inc.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Help...How do I make TickleServices go away... Message-ID: <SCOTT.93Dec29221609@nic.gac.edu> From: scott@nic.gac.edu (Scott Hess) Date: 29 Dec 93 22:16:09 References: <CIID3q.5t5@dvorak.amd.com> Distribution: usa Organization: Is a sign of weakness In-reply-to: rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com's message of Thu, 23 Dec 1993 21:59:49 GMT In article <CIID3q.5t5@dvorak.amd.com>, rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com (Ron Pomeroy x(Coop)) writes: >I tried (unsucessfully) to install and play with TickleServices.app >demo (no one's fault - the demo on the net expired). Note that the version with the "Beta period expired" and crash, or whatever, was a mistake. I didn't mean that to happen in the _release_ version (it was meant to encourage my beta testers to upgrade to the release version so I didn't keep getting bug reports for prerelease code). Later versions (1.01 for NS2.1, 1.02 for NS3.x Moto/Intel) don't have this "functionality". Anyhow ... >Now, every time I log in I get a system beep and a console message: > > Dec 23 10:25:47 Workspace: Cannot exec > /auhp1/cam1/rpomeroy/NeXTStuff/TickleServices1.0/TickleServices.app/Tic > kleServer.daemon > >How do I exercise this daemon from my system ? Here's an earlier posting on the subject: From: scott@nic.gac.edu (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Plagued by daemon! (TickleServices) Date: 21 Dec 93 13:18:38 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Lines: 60 Message-ID: <SCOTT.93Dec21131838@nic.gac.edu> References: <2enf1e$1u5@crcnis1.unl.edu> <2f1ths$jvl@transfer.stratus.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: nic.gac.edu In-reply-to: dan@quiensabe.az.stratus.com's message of 19 Dec 1993 15:55:40 GMT In article <2f1ths$jvl@transfer.stratus.com>, dan@quiensabe.az.stratus.com (Dan Danz) writes: >Dan Scott writes >> The problem is that now when I login I get an error beep (well, >> actually the rooster crows...) When I check the console I find >> that it is complaining about not being able to launch a >> TickleServices daemon. So how can I make it stop trying to launch >> this daemon (which no longer exists)? > >dread Workspace LaunchPaths > figure out what you need to keep, but get rid of the TickleServices > daemon >dwrite Workspace LaunchPaths "what you need to keep" > >If you don't have anything else in the LaunchPaths, then dremove >Workspace Launchpaths Dan (Danz) is exactly correct. Note that the recommended way to uninstall TickleServices is to execute the TickleServices.app menu item "Server/Deinstall..." _before_ nuking things. This takes care of _everything_. Anyhow, my main goal with TickleServices was to make it as nearly invisible as possible, which is why it doesn't delete "cleanly". There's a file ~/.NeXT/services/TickleServer that it installs (which is where NeXTSTEP finds out what services TickleServices has to offer at a given time), and Workspace LaunchPaths has the TickleServer.daemon installed in it so that when you login, the daemon is launched and your services are available. "Server/Deinstall..." removes the services file and removes the server from the server from the LaunchPaths "cleanly" (ie, the services cache is regenerated and the rest of the LaunchPaths are left alone, unless there are none in which case the default is deleted). It also removes your TickleServices defaults from the defaults database. I'm working on some better solutions for the next release. One horrid hack would be to have the TickleServer.daemon "watch itself" to see if it gets deleted. If it does, it can pop up a panel and query the user to see if they want to deinstall, or if they just moved things around. That would be sort of cool, I think. [The user deletes TickleServices.app. Then they get this panel saying "Hey! What's up?". Heheh. The possessed computer :-).] One other option which I explored in the past, but didn't work, was to code the "Executable" entry in the services file. Unfortunately, I couldn't get it to work reliably. This was under NS2.1, though, so perhaps it works now. Unfortunately, that has certain drawbacks which make it undesirable (moving and deleting are still problems, just in a different way). Another last option would be to use some of the changes in the NS3.0 services handling to allow TickleServices to get around requiring the ~/.NeXT/services file and the LaunchPaths entry, though I'm not quite certain yet whether this will be doable. In any case, I'm working on it ... Later, -- scott hess <scott@nic.gac.edu> <I can handle NeXTMail, but don't like it> Home: 12901 Upton Avenue South, #326 Burnsville, MN 55337 (612) 895-1208 Office: 101 W. Burnsville Pkwy, Suite 108F, Burnsville, MN 55337 890-1332 <I hate when something I've never heard of is called "The world famous ...">
From: romdas@uclink.berkeley.edu (John Badanes) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: gamelan music Date: 30 Dec 1993 06:45:34 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Message-ID: <2fttee$raa@agate.berkeley.edu> Originator: romdas@uclink.berkeley.edu Does anyone know where the old demo sound files that once came bundled with the NeXT might be found. Specifically, I'm looking for a sample that was called 'gamelan' [actually Balinese gamelan gender wayang for the world music buffs out there]. It ran under 'ScorePlayer' and hopefully should work with 3.2. Also, where are those darn Bach Fugues anyway? John
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,andi.business From: marketing@nextsrv1.andi.org (Marketing Director) Subject: ANDI NEXTSTEP Resource Guide - Last chance to participate Message-ID: <CIt1Mq.Ao4@nextsrv1.andi.org> Keywords: ANDI,NEXTSTEP Sender: usenet@nextsrv1.andi.org (usenet) Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1993 16:25:38 GMT ANDI - The Association of NeXTSTEP (and soon Openstep) Developers International, Inc. is pleased to announce that we are producing a catalog for use at the tradeshows where we exhibit. It will be known at the NEXTSTEP Resource Guide by ANDI. The catalog grew from the need to supply people who are interested, but not currently using NEXTSTEP, up-to-date information. In order to keep buyers aware of new developments, we will be publishing the catalog 3 or 4 times a year to coincide with our tradeshow schedule. In addition, we will put an electronic copy of the catalog on the ANDI InfoServer and distribute it freely to User Groups. Our goal is to produce a good looking, but low cost (for both ANDI and you) catalog in print that we can afford to give away by the 1,000's. We have found that people want to pick up something which will let them read about NEXTSTEP as well as what 3rd party Apps and NEXTSTEP related services are available. Pricing for the first issue is as follows: 1/4 page: $100 1/2 page: $200 Full page:$400 Covers (Inside front, inside back, outside back): $1500 The front cover of the catalog will feature our character, "ANDI man", and something similar to the familiar stack of blocks. If you would like your company logo on one of the blocks, add $100 to the price of your ad. The ad prices are for black and white ads. Depending on the nature of the material received, we may produce the catalog in one or two colors. If you are interested in a full page color ad, please contact us directly. Price lists will be generated separately. Your pricing should include the Suggested List Price. We suggest you consider providing a Wholesale Price for reseller's and an ANDI member discount. The first issue will distributed at the East Coast Developers Conference, January 24-26, 1994. Deadline for submitting material is January 6, 1994 but please help us by not waiting until the last moment. Ads may be submitted as camera ready copy or as an Adobe Illustrator file. Please contact us directly if you wish to supply ads in other formats. If you need assistance in creating an ad, please contact us directly. The catalog will be 8 1/2 by 11 inches in size. Ad sizes are as follows: 1/4 page: 4 inches wide by 5 1/4 inches tall 1/2 page: 8 inches wide by 5 1/4 inches tall Full page and covers: 8 inches wide by 10 1/2 inches tall The NEXTSTEP Resource Guide will be divided into two sections. The first section will list products by category which will include your company contact information, and a "brief" description of the product or service, not to exceed 50 words. The second section will include your display ad. Note: User Groups can receive a free listing in the first section. Consider joining ANDI as a Developer or Corporate member at the same time. Developer members get a 1/2 page ad for the price of a 1/4 page ad. Corporate members have the same option or a Full page ad for the price of a 1/2 page ad. By joining ANDI your membership cost can help pay for itself. Developer membership: $275 Corporate membership: $1500 If you participate in the catalog and supply ANDI with a working, fully licensed version of your software with packaging and manuals, ANDI will demo your software, display your manual(s), and use your packaging as part of our display. Hardware and peripheral vendors should contact ANDI directly. Make checks payable to ANDI and send to us at the address listed below. If you plan to participate we will email you the categories and sample description. To receive this send mail to:marketing@andi.org In the subject field:ANDI catalog - sample --- Bill Strehl Executive Director ANDI 9921 Woodburn Road Silver Spring, MD 20901-2730 Phone: 301-681-0613 reply to:marketing@nextsrv1.andi.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: alvaro@swt (alvaro Dos Santos) Subject: Re: Databases for NeXTstep Message-ID: <1993Dec30.094018.338@swt.fdn.org> Sender: alvaro@swt.fdn.org References: <1993Dec27.213338.28268@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1993 09:40:18 GMT In article <1993Dec27.213338.28268@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> afm@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Andreas Mueller) writes: > I'm looking for a relational database system for my black station, > and I would like to get an idea about prices of the various offerings. > Does anyone have experiences he/she would be willing to share? > (I know there is university ingres for fre but my queries have become > too complicated for it to handle) Any suggestions? Thanks in advance We are currently using the Gupta SQL database. It is not very sofisticated (it has locks on page level) but it is cheap (1000 $) and it works. Alvaro.
From: ac1mdc@sunc.sheffield.ac.uk (M Crawford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: upgrading to 3.2 Date: 30 Dec 1993 14:44:26 GMT Organization: Academic Computing Services, Sheffield University Message-ID: <2fupga$4r2@silver.shef.ac.uk> References: <2fsu5a$nkt@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> : I have upgraded to 3.1 user, and am preparing to upgrade to 3.2 user and : developer. Do I need to upgrade to 3.1 dev prior to upgrading to 3.2 dev? : No, don't bother; upgrading to 3.2 (user) removes all the dev files anyway, Have fun, mmalcolm.
From: brahm@alembic.com (Lans Brahmantyo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: What Scanners and SW for Turbo Slab? Date: 30 Dec 1993 13:03:04 -0600 Organization: Q.-- A NEXTSTEP-based Advertising Agency Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <199312301812.AA29060@alembic.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software In article <2fsun9$jc3@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks) writes: > I'd like to use an HP IIcx scanner for bw images > and OCR work with my NS Turbo slab. Has anyone done > this? What software can I use? I don't want to buy > another sort of scanner, really. Must I get a > Mac for this? > > Thanks > > R. de Lucca > The Johns Hopkins University > I would recommend using HP ScanJet IIcx (I bought one for only $990) with ScanTastic by Second Glance Software ($295) available through Alembic (1-800-452-7608). So far, it performs a lot better and faster than HSD Scanners. The ScanJet IIcx is very fast and do color scanning (up to 1600 x 1600 dpi by interpolation) in one pass. The software is fantastic you don't have to think too much about the scanning resolution setting. The scanner looks great too! Regards, ........ brahm Q. image & advertising
From: mike@dannug.dk (Michael Zedeler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Looking 4: Terminalprogram Date: 30 Dec 1993 19:22:54 GMT Organization: Danish NeXT User Group Distribution: world Message-ID: <2fv9qe$qi@nexia.dk> References: <CIq8ww.K93@cc.umontreal.ca> In article <CIq8ww.K93@cc.umontreal.ca> kosmatoo@JSP.UMontreal.CA (Kosmatos Odisseas) writes: > Stefano Pagiola (spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu) wrote: > : Richard Lippmann writes > : > Im also looking for a terminalprogram 4 NSI 3.1, any hints? > > : What's wrong with /NextApps/Terminal.app? > > Come on... Terminal.app can't access the modem, dial out for you, or do > zmodem without having to go fetch 'kermit' and 'sz' and 'rz'... > > I use Terminal.app now... but seriously, you really have to work at setting > it up first. It's not a "terminal.app" unless you get the pieces it needs.. I am using Stuart 2.4 which comes in both a commercial and a non-commercial version. If you are looking for serious high-end applications try checking out 'Communicae'. I saw a very promesing demo version of that terminal program, capable of almost everything, including coffee-brewing. Michael.
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