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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy From: robertn@penny.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) Subject: Custom Headers in NeXTMail? Distribution: world Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1993 20:42:16 +0000 Message-ID: <9306302035.AA10363@penny.demon.co.uk> Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk How do I specify custom headers in NeXTMail? ie. Return-Receipt-To: (Not NeXTMail receipts) All attempts have resulted with the header information in the body of the message. Cheers.
From: slhw4@cc.usu.edu (Jason Hunsaker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Help with PC System Configuration Message-ID: <1993Jun30.145339.69598@cc.usu.edu> Date: 30 Jun 93 14:53:38 MDT Organization: Utah State University I'm going to be venturing out into the PC market in mid September. In the meantime, I'm trying to figure out what kind of system configuration I want. I need some opinions and comments about harware and pricing. But here is the configuration I'm looking at: (I should be eligible for Edu discounts if available. Prices are in parenthesis if they are an estimate, otherwise, they are the best I have found so far.) Hardware -------- : Intel 586 DX66 Mhz (Specific vendor yet to be decided) : + EISA Backplane with VESA Local-Bus slots : + 32MB 70ns Ram : + 2 1.44MB 3.5" floppy drives : ? 2 2.88MB 3.5" floppy drives [2.88MB Floppies are my preference, but I don't know what kinds of controllers are available (SCSI? maybe?) or if NEXTSTEP supports the controllers.] $ (600): + Fast SCSI-2 card: ? DPT 2012/90 EISA [I chose this one because it seems to be the most upgradable, are there better performers out there?] $ 521 : + CD-ROM drive: NEC CRD 841 Internal $(1300): + .5-1.2GB SCSI-2 HD $ 449 : + ATI Graphics Ultra Pro (VL-Bus) 2MB Ram [What is the difference between the EISA and VL-Bus versions performance wise?] $ 1989 : + Sony CPD-2036s 20" monitor, .30mm, 1280x1024 NI [I'm having a hard time finding technical info on Sony products, can anyone point me in the right direction?] : + Modem/Fax $ 369 : ? Hayes Optima 14.4 Ext. Modem/14.4 Ext. Fax $ 199 : ? USRobotics Sportster 14.4 Ext. Modem/14.4 Ext. Fax [I'm totally clueless about modems. I want an External modem with fax ability. What is the difference between the ones I have listed above, and other models that might perform equally as well?] : + Standard 101 Keyboard $ ?? : + Logitec Mouse Man Bus Additional Hardware ------------------- $ ?? : Sound Card $ ?? : MIDI interface/controller card (or box) $ 2400 : ? HP Laserjet 4M -C2021A -or- $ 2979 : ? HP Laserjet 4si -C2010A $ 800 : + Postscript Level-2 simms -C2013A $ ?? : + 8MB RAM -C2066A $ 480 : + 100 Envelope feeder -C2060A Software (with Edu discount) ---------------------------- $ 250 : NEXTSTEP 3.1 user version (or better) [Since I'll be making this purchase in September, NS 3.2 will probably be out and I'll get that instead -- but who knows what pricing may be like then. Plus, I know that the Edu version *already* comes with the developer version, but again, in September, this *may* not be the case.] $ 250 : SoftPC with Windows 3.1 $ 250 : Finale for Windows $ ?? : ? Lotus Improv (Spreadsheet) $ ?? : ? Wingz [Can't decide which one, or both] $ ?? : ? Pages (Desk Top Publishing) $ ?? : ? WordPerfect (Maybe) $ ?? : Communications interface software/drivers $ ?? : Back Space screen saver(s) [All the rest are optional] $ ?? : ? Database application $ ?? : ? Music Scribe (music notation) $ ?? : ? Music Kit $ ?? : ? Developer Kit Well, that's the wish list for now. I'd appreciate any comments or suggestions about this configutarion either from this newsgroup or email. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Internet: slhw4@cc.usu.edu (Jason Hunsaker), Logan, Utah
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: spoormand@hns.com (Sy Poormand) Subject: NeXT Cube for sale Sender: news@hns.com (USENET news system) Message-ID: <1993Jun30.192538.7271@hns.com> Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1993 19:25:38 GMT Distribution: usa Organization: Hughes Network Systems Inc. NeXT 68030 Cube 660 Mb Macropolis SCSI-2 Hard Drive (has 4 years warranty left) 24 Mb RAM NeXTSTEP 2.1 installed on HD. NeXT CD rom drive + NeXTSTEP 3.0 on CD + educational sampler CD. External Archive 250MB tape drive + 3 250MB tapes + enTar backup software. Tones of commercial software including: Mathematica Improve Adobe-Illestrator Touch Type Microphone SoftPC Squash WordPerfect Create WriteNow and many others. Full NeXTSTEP 2.0 documents 10 volumes + 3 volumes of Mathematica. This has been a home machine, very lightly used. Make best offer... I live in the D.C. area, can ship anywhere in the US, buyer pays shipping. E-mail: spoormand@hns.com or leave message at 301-540-8821
From: "Jay Wallin" <p00370@psilink.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXT consulting-NYC area Date: Wed, 30 Jun 93 16:01:04 -0500 Organization: WSI Message-ID: <2950556440.8.p00370@psilink.com> At last some NeXT activity on the East Coast. A large development project needs 8-10 Senior NeXT consultants for long term independent on-site contracts at good rates. Seven senior developers are needed with Objective C, Sybase a plus and two senior Sybase specialists (almost DBA's). E-Mail here or call 212-410-1400. Thanks - Jay Wallin PS The consulting company involved has been in business 8yrs, has a great reputation and pays on time!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware From: godfrel@fraser.sfu.ca (Godfrey Leung) Subject: Re: ATI Ultra Pro or S3-928? Message-ID: <1993Jul1.001545.221@sfu.ca> Sender: news@sfu.ca Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada References: <chris.741367588@vincent1.iastate.edu> <93180.115058GKS101@psuvm.psu.edu> <1993Jun30.152251.16025@infonode.ingr.com> Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1993 00:15:45 GMT > The S3 has the added advantage of being a real SVGA instead of a > completely different animal like the GUP (it's a soupped up > 8514/A). The GUP has an ATI SVGA card onboard for doing svga > modes, and this card does not support true/hicolor, so your DOS > SVGA true/hicolor software won't Are you absolutely sure? Explain the vgraf program that comes with the card and allows you to view 24-bit Targa files. I also believe that a new set of VESA drivers allows 24-bit colour too. Godfrey.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: bstone@acs.ucalgary.ca (Blake Stone) Subject: Re: Where is NS/Intel Excitement? Message-ID: <Jul1.010028.47639@acs.ucalgary.ca> Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1993 01:00:28 GMT References: <20nsihINNpf7@network.ucsd.edu> <1993Jun29.200030.1958@news.columbia.edu> Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta [ List of newsgroups and relative volumes deleted ] > It would seem that comp.sys.next is not really that important > ... At least it's more important than Sun. :-) I'm afraid the benchmark measures total volume of intenet news... how is that related to "importance"? It's interesting that NeXTSTEP, with an installed base in the 50-70 thousand range has more than half as much traffic as Windows, with an installed base in the (guesstimates anyone? 20 million?) range. I think you could claim, therefore, that NeXT users are about 400 times as verbose as Windows users. :-) -- Blake W. Stone | DKW Systems Corporation Chief Technical Officer | A N[EXTSTEP,eXT[STEP,step,Step]] VAR bstone@acs.ucalgary.ca | | ... couldn't have been ME
From: drkstar!rwilson@gun.com (Robert K. Wilson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: PC Expo Date: 30 Jun 1993 21:47:25 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9307010246.AA00304@drkstar.aiko.gun.com> In comp.sys.next.misc article <20srtv$153@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> you wrote: > Does anyone know what is going on at PC Expo in New York? Does NeXT have > a booth? > > So far, from newsbytes the only news I heard from the 85,000 attendance show > is that Bill Gates is "promising" NT by July 24. Yeah right! > > Any NEXTSTEP news? > > Eric > NeXT Inc. did not have a booth, but there was a NEXTSTEP presence at several of the PC vendors there showing their wares running our beloved OS. NEC: Showed a Pentium (60 Mhz) machine running NS. Dubbed the "NEXTSTEP" Fantasy System in reference to the NeXTWorld article. It was a BLACK!! Tower system based on their Express/II family. Estimated retail $6500 (w/500 MB HD, 16MB RAM). Call 1-800-NEC-INFO ALR: Also showed a NEXTSTEP Pentium (60Mhz) system on their Evolution V system. Note: Systems start at $2,495 (w/o HD, video)!! Also available in a black tower (Evolution VQ) for approx.$4400 (which has EISA rater than ISA slots and other features that account for the cost differential). This has my vote for the most exciting NEXTSETP Intel platform given its performance, features and PRICE!!! Call 800-444-4ALR Dell: Showed their '486 50 Mhz machine running NS. Epson : Showed the Progression and Progression NX running NS. DEC: (Didn't get around to see them yet, will report back tomorrow). ANDI: Had a booth distributing info and some 3rd party applications promo materials. I'll be helping out at the Dell booth tomorrow morning and other members of GUN (Gotham Users of NeXT) are also demonstrating and evangelizing NEXTSEP at the other PC vendors listed above. If there are any further questions, don't hesitate to ask... -Rob -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Robert K. Wilson, Esq. | Voice/Fax/Data 269-29D Grand Central Parkway | +1-718-279-0918 Floral Park, NY 11005 | NeXT Mail Accepted USA | Internet: rwilson@gun.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- -
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware From: dmanke@sanjuan (Dennis Manke) Subject: Re: ATI Ultra Pro or S3-928? Message-ID: <1993Jul1.021412.13606@sol.UVic.CA> Sender: news@sol.UVic.CA Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria B.C. CANADA References: <chris.741367588@vincent1.iastate.edu> <1993Jun30.024910.26607@cs.uno.edu> Date: Thu, 1 Jul 93 02:14:12 GMT In article <1993Jun30.024910.26607@cs.uno.edu> cajho@uno.edu writes: >In article <chris.741367588@vincent1.iastate.edu>, chris@iastate.edu (Chris Wong) writes: >>I received replies regarding the performance of ATI Ultra Pro >>and S3-805. Some likes the ATI while some likes the S3-805. >> >>Another question: What about the performance difference of ATI Ultra >>Pro and S3-928? >> >>I understand that S3-928 is not support in the current version of >>NS/FIP, but I'll surely write a driver to support it. >> >>Any opinion? >>-- > >The 928 will smoke the Ultra Pro. > Are you sure? At what resolution? Everything I've read (after disecting performance results, but no actual board in front of me), shows that at high resolutions, the Ultra Pro outperforms most everything. At lower resolutions (to 800x600), some boards can zip along up to 2x faster. P.S. Note that the OEM board has a 64-bit RAMDAC, but Gateway and other retailers substitute lower-end 32-bit RAMDAC's (I believe you can upgrade at order time). Dennis dmanke@sanjuan.uvic.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: dmanke@sanjuan (Dennis Manke) Subject: Re: Help with PC System Configuration Message-ID: <1993Jul1.023455.14233@sol.UVic.CA> Sender: news@sol.UVic.CA Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria B.C. CANADA References: <1993Jun30.145339.69598@cc.usu.edu> Date: Thu, 1 Jul 93 02:34:55 GMT In article <1993Jun30.145339.69598@cc.usu.edu> slhw4@cc.usu.edu (Jason Hunsaker) writes: >I'm going to be venturing out into the PC market in mid >September. In the meantime, I'm trying to figure out what kind >of system configuration I want. I need some opinions and >comments about harware and pricing. But here is the >configuration I'm looking at: > >(I should be eligible for Edu discounts if available. Prices are >in parenthesis if they are an estimate, otherwise, they are the >best I have found so far.) > >Hardware >-------- > : Intel 586 DX66 Mhz (Specific vendor yet to be decided) > : + EISA Backplane with VESA Local-Bus slots ============== By Sept, we should be seeing several PCI based machines on the market. With that, I'm hoping they do away with EISA and ISA and build in SCSI-2. Bus arbitration avail with PCI should result in better throughput with multiple local-bus boards. Also there is BIOS that now supports SCSI, but only for the PCI bus and there's apparently a hot new SCSI-2 chip, but again, funded partially by Intel and hence only for the PCI bus. P.S. Does anyone know if I can (currently) get a motherboard like this - with no useless ISA Bus, no expensive EISA Bus, but those savings applied to a PCI Bus, with built-in SCSI and a minimal number of PCI slots (say 4 - who needs 8 slots, when most devices can be chained to the SCSI controller). Dennis dmanke@sanjuan.uvic.ca
From: cs000rdw@selway.umt.edu (Richard D Warner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Filling in circles, specifying line width, and rounded corners using ACACADEMY CADD software Message-ID: <1993Jul1.025811.2038@selway.umt.edu> Date: 1 Jul 93 02:58:11 GMT Article-I.D.: selway.1993Jul1.025811.2038 Organization: University of Montana I've been working with this Academy CADD software and really like it. It's a two-dimensional package and overall easy and intuitive to use. It is a general-purpose program and there are a few features that I'm looking for (and not finding) to design the physical layout of a circuit board. For one, it doesn't seem to have a function for filling in solid a circle or square (as in solder pads). Secondly, I don't know how to specify line widths, except for the limited preset widths. And thirdly, I'd like to give my circuit traces rounded corners but don't see an easy way to do it, other than specifying a radius for each corner (a hassle). Don't get me wrong, overall the package is great. Compared to Generic CADD....well, there's no comparison. I like being able to browse through the building block files and see a miniature picture of the contents of each file, for instance. Just thought there might be someone out ther who knows a trick to doing these things. Thanks in advance for the info. Rich
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware From: mr2@netcom.com (Jongyoon Lee) Subject: Re: ATI Ultra Pro or S3-928? Message-ID: <mr2C9GuMr.6BC@netcom.com> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) References: <1993Jul1.021412.13606@sol.UVic.CA> Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1993 03:20:50 GMT Dennis Manke (dmanke@sanjuan) wrote: : Are you sure? At what resolution? : Everything I've read (after disecting performance results, but no actual : board in front of me), shows that at high resolutions, the Ultra Pro : outperforms most everything. At lower resolutions (to 800x600), some : boards can zip along up to 2x faster. The latest issue of PC Magazine (or Byte) has benchmark of S3-801/805, S3-928, Weitek P9000, and ATI GUP in various resolution/color depth. According to it, P9000 is the fastest by far, S3-928 is the next, ATI, and then 801/805. If I remember correctly, GUP was fastest at 24bit color, even faster than P9000. But on avarage, GUP placed itself between 928 and 801. Hope this helps. : Dennis dmanke@sanjuan.uvic.ca Jongyoon -- +-----------------------------+-----------------------------------------------+ | Jongyoon Lee | _/_/ _/ _/_/ | | University of California | _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ | | Los Angeles | _/ _/ _/ _/ | | Computer Science | _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ | | | _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/ _/ | | jong@seas.ucla.edu | _/ _/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ | | mr2@netcom.com | _/_/_/_/ _/_/ _/_/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/ | +-----------------------------+-----------------------------------------------+
From: karthy@dannug.dk (Karsten Thygesen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXTSTEP on AST? Date: 30 Jun 1993 23:08:41 GMT Organization: Dannug - Danish NeXT Users Group Distribution: inet Message-ID: <KARTHY.93Jul1010841@dannug.dannug.dk> Hi. I'm posting this on behalf of Geert Clemmensen, so please reply by mail to the below address: Anyone that has tried to install NEXTSTEP on an AST Premmia 4/66D? If yes, are there any pitfalls? If I install 2 MB VRAM, will I then be able to run 1024x768/4096 (the hw comp. guide only lists 1 MB VRAM which will give 800x600/4096)? Anynone with availability info on the promised driver update disk (which seems to be required for the AST Premmia)? Please reply to: gclem@dannug.dk Thx. Geert
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware From: dmanke@sanjuan (Dennis Manke) Subject: Re: ATI Ultra Pro or S3-928? Message-ID: <1993Jul1.050436.18309@sol.UVic.CA> Sender: news@sol.UVic.CA Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria B.C. CANADA References: <1993Jul1.021412.13606@sol.UVic.CA> <mr2C9GuMr.6BC@netcom.com> Date: Thu, 1 Jul 93 05:04:36 GMT In article <mr2C9GuMr.6BC@netcom.com> mr2@netcom.com (Jongyoon Lee) writes: >Dennis Manke (dmanke@sanjuan) wrote: > >: Are you sure? At what resolution? > >: Everything I've read (after disecting performance results, but no actual >: board in front of me), shows that at high resolutions, the Ultra Pro >: outperforms most everything. At lower resolutions (to 800x600), some >: boards can zip along up to 2x faster. > >The latest issue of PC Magazine (or Byte) has benchmark of S3-801/805, >S3-928, Weitek P9000, and ATI GUP in various resolution/color depth. >According to it, P9000 is the fastest by far, S3-928 is the next, >ATI, and then 801/805. >If I remember correctly, GUP was fastest at 24bit color, even faster than >P9000. But on avarage, GUP placed itself between 928 and 801. > >Hope this helps. > Well, not saying that any of the above are better than the other, I really detest PC Mag and their attitude towards ATI. I would suggest that the other board manufacturers have huge advertising bugets with the Mag and this influences heavily on their conclusions. Wittness their attack on ATI for keeping up on the leading edge with their development of software drivers. If one is so concerned with stability then they can keep a few versions back, but I for one would like to use the best one I can get, if it works for my environment. They attack them for bit caching which results in ***real*** speed improvments, but because many other manufacturers can't create proper bit caching drivers (probably because of poorly designed hardware - from a software engineers point of view) and because their own testing crew can't dream-up generic enough tests to foil truely pathetic attempts at bit caching, they criticise it. They have constantly recommended products (flying colors) which my ex-employer subsequently brought in to test, only to have the product fail on the first real world sample data the product was given. For more evidence of how their testing is influenced by budgets, look at their latest review of workstations running UNIX. They tested these various platforms (all running state of the art versions of UNIX) against a stale old version 3.0 of SCO UNIX on Intel architecture. I hope I don't sound overly critical of PC Mag, but I think we need someone with the hardware to give us the real breakdown of how the boards run under NS/I. My guess is that when ATI has their own tuned driver for NS/I, it'l smoke. Dennis dmanke@sanjuan.uvic.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: harit@kripalu.com Subject: Re: NS/FIP netboot? Message-ID: <1993Jun30.121016.4444@uunet!cbmvax!xmws!kripalu> Sender: harit@uunet!cbmvax!xmws!kripalu Organization: Kripalu Center References: <C9ExDE.34B.2@cs.cmu.edu> Date: Wed, 30 Jun 93 12:10:16 GMT In article <C9ExDE.34B.2@cs.cmu.edu> ddj+@cs.cmu.edu (Doug DeJulio) writes: > >> Pentium/HP/whatever in the basement or something like that. This > >> could be economical if you want to move a whole group to NS/FIP. > >> You'd only need the user license on all the end-user machines, > >> with the developer license on the server, so that's another cost > > > >Sorry to intrude, but having the dev on one machine on a net doesn't > >make it legally available to all clients. Only as many machines as > >licences are owned should use it. That's the point of "right-to-use" > >licences. You don't get the code, but a licence to it. > > Hm, I wasn't talking about a fileserver type of arrangement. I was > talking about the actual binary running on the server. Was this > understood? Is this illegal? > > Here's an example that should be roughly equivalent. Let's say I've > got two machines in my home. One is a maxed-out 486 box, DX2-66, > super-duper fast-and-wide SCSI, everything. But a VGA card, so it's > only 640x480x2. Let's say I've also got an origianl 030 NeXTcube, > with a NeXTdimension in it, with a nice 21" color monitor. Can I run > programs on the 486 box and display them via the net on the dimension > (via -NXHost, sorta like "setenv DISPLAY" for X, for those who don't > know how), legally? > > What if one machine has just a user license, and the other has a > developer license? > > Is it a question of how many *people* are using a machine at a time? > -- > Doug DeJulio > ddj+@cmu.edu As long as the clients use -NXHost then only one license is needed. Though I just reread the license and there are limitations on use of bitmaps and printing but no limitation on use of the software to one person or one machine. So as far as I can tell (not a lawyer) we can use the software as much as we want. -- Michael Allen Latta Kripalu Center harit@kripalu.com (413)448-3288
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: cue@apple.com (Eddy Cue) Subject: NS 3.1 update for Mot/FIP Sender: news@gallant.apple.com Message-ID: <cue-010793001014@17.127.11.59> Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1993 07:08:26 GMT Organization: Apple Computer, Inc. Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc Does the NextStep 3.1 update for the Motorola processor include any Intel files? I own a copy of 3.0 and want the full FIP package, but don't want to pay the full price. Eddy Cue cue@aol.com
From: nico@imani.cam.org (Nicolas Dore) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Apple PowerCD ? Message-ID: <1993Jul1.034812.1964@imani.cam.org> Date: 1 Jul 93 03:48:12 GMT References: <hschulz.741425494@rzdspc4> Sender: nico@imani.cam.org In article <hschulz.741425494@rzdspc4> hschulz@rzdspc4.informatik.uni-hamburg.de (Heiko Schulz) writes: > Has anybody seen or better used a Apple PowerCD on a NeXT? > It should be a > - portable AudioCD-Player > - PhotoCD-Player (on your TV) > - SCSI CD-ROM > > By the way, Philips sells a portable PhotoCD-Player (CD-100?) > which looks exactly the same (well, not the logo :-). > Any comments? My understanding is that Phillips supplies to Apple (and maybe Kodak, I'm not sure, but I think I read it in some english mag), wich installs the SCSI interface on it (or gets Phillips to install it, whatever...). BTW this drive is _NOT_ double-speed. You get 150kbps. Like the good ol' days. 8^). And the "portable part is the "freesbie", wich seems quite large by protables standards, and I'm not sure about batteries. Guess it's more of a "portable presentation/portfolio player" than competition for Sony. Ciao > Heiko Schulz > EMail> hschulz@informatik.uni-hamburg.de > -- Nicolas Dore nico@imani.cam.org - - - - - - - - - CAREFUL! POLITICAL COMMENT ZONE!! - - - - - - - - - > "If I can't dance, I don't want to be in your revolution!" < > Emma Goldman (to Vladimir Ilitch Oulianov [Lenin], 1917) <
From: nico@imani.cam.org (Nicolas Dore) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NS/FIP netboot? Message-ID: <1993Jul1.035842.2022@imani.cam.org> Date: 1 Jul 93 03:58:42 GMT References: <C9ExDE.34B.2@cs.cmu.edu> Sender: nico@imani.cam.org In article <C9ExDE.34B.2@cs.cmu.edu> ddj+@cs.cmu.edu (Doug DeJulio) writes: > >> Pentium/HP/whatever in the basement or something like that. This > >> could be economical if you want to move a whole group to NS/FIP. > >> You'd only need the user license on all the end-user machines, > >> with the developer license on the server, so that's another cost > > > >Sorry to intrude, but having the dev on one machine on a net doesn't > >make it legally available to all clients. Only as many machines as > >licences are owned should use it. That's the point of "right-to-use" > >licences. You don't get the code, but a licence to it. > > Hm, I wasn't talking about a fileserver type of arrangement. I was > talking about the actual binary running on the server. Was this > understood? Is this illegal? Yes > Here's an example that should be roughly equivalent. Let's say I've > got two machines in my home. One is a maxed-out 486 box, DX2-66, > super-duper fast-and-wide SCSI, everything. But a VGA card, so it's > only 640x480x2. Let's say I've also got an origianl 030 NeXTcube, > with a NeXTdimension in it, with a nice 21" color monitor. Can I run > programs on the 486 box and display them via the net on the dimension > (via -NXHost, sorta like "setenv DISPLAY" for X, for those who don't > know how), legally? > > What if one machine has just a user license, and the other has a > developer license? As long as only one person is using either, you're legal. No two persons can use either at the same time. Since you need User to run dev, so that's rather pointless. You coulnd't have 1 _HUGE_ server with 10 netboot client running off of it... (BTW anybody know if you can have an Intel machine be a motorola netboot server? Since the user is not fat, I would guess not, but then maybe just changing "clients/XXX"'s content to be real moto stuff might work.) > Is it a question of how many *people* are using a machine at a time? Yes. Buy as many licences as you need (right now, I guess full price for less than a zillions licences 8^( ), and put only one copy of the dev on your net for everyone to use. That's the legal way. Ciao, and sorry. > -- > Doug DeJulio > ddj+@cmu.edu -- Nicolas Dore nico@imani.cam.org - - - - - - - - - CAREFUL! POLITICAL COMMENT ZONE!! - - - - - - - - - > "If I can't dance, I don't want to be in your revolution!" < > Emma Goldman (to Vladimir Ilitch Oulianov [Lenin], 1917) <
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: michi@cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Michele Giardini) Subject: Austrian VAD Keywords: VAD, Austria, Distributor Sender: news-mail@ghost.dsi.unimi.it (News mail user) Organization: Computer Science Dep. - Milan University Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1993 08:24:52 GMT Message-ID: <1993Jul1.082452.5681@ghost.dsi.unimi.it> Hi all, I'd really need to know the address (email, or phone number) of the Austrian Distributor. I thing there's a VAD called "Hard & Soft", but from here is really hard to obtain his address ... Thank you in advance Michele -- Michele Giardini - Computer Science Department State University of Milan - Coordinator of NeXT2You (The Italian NeXT User Group) Via Comelico 39/41 - 20135 Milano Tel. +39 2 55006385 Fax +39 2 55006373 Email: michi@cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (NeXT mail welcome)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: hschulz@rzdspc14.informatik.uni-hamburg.de (Heiko Schulz) Subject: Apple PowerCD ? Message-ID: <hschulz.741523523@rzdspc14> Sender: news@informatik.uni-hamburg.de (Mr. News) Organization: University of Hamburg, Germany Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1993 10:45:23 GMT Has anyone tried the Apple PowerCD yet? It should be - portable AudioCD-Player - " PhotoCD-Player (for TV) - SCSI CDROM-Player Heiko Schulz EMail> hschulz@informatik.uni-hamburg.de
From: peterk@pknms.toppoint.de (Peter Kretzschmar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXTSTEP FIP Device Driver Site Distribution: world Message-ID: <741532267peterk.postmast@pknms.toppoint.de> Sender: postmast@pknms.toppoint.de Date: Thu, 01 Jul 93 13:11:07 GMT Organization: private site Keywords: drivers Hello world, is there a ftp-site, where i can get the latest device drivers for NS FIP ? I'm looking for Adaptec 1742 drivers. Does NeXT release drivers or driver updates between OS release dates ? Peter -- Peter Kretzschmar +49 4321 41471 peterk@pknms.toppoint.de Grossflecken 54 w-2350 Neumuenster
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy From: marwood@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Marwood) Subject: MusicKit vs. MIDI Message-ID: <MARWOOD.93Jun30085134@fsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software Sender: news@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (News Manager) Organization: University of Calgary Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1993 15:51:34 GMT About 3 weeks back I posted an article asking if the NeXT MusicKit was capable of generating realistic instruments with precise timing and how well the MusicKit measured up to a MIDI box. Thanks to Jim Beauchamp <beaucham@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu> and David Jaffe <david@jaffe.com> for their responses. Also, thanks to Len Manzara, our local NeXT music expert, for his help. There were no conflicting reports; all the answers more or less supported each other. The solution to producing realistic music is _not_ to record it and play it back. It's too troublesome and difficult and can result in funny problems, such as waves getting cut in half and whatnot. Realistic music is, however, very possible. I'm sure all of you have heard demo score files, and Ensemble seems to be the definitive place to play with creating instruments. The music can be generated to very precise amounts of time, restricted by the sampling rate and what David Jaffe calls "envelope break-points times." He estimates 0.0003 second response time, more than enough for my purposes. How did the MusicKit measure up to MIDI. Everyone I talked to claims the MusicKit will give equal if not better control of the sound parameters than MIDI will as well as more flexibility. The MusicKit's one failing point was that there was not a well-made well-packaged set of realistic sample instruments. Following suggestions and the MusicKit manual, the best I could find were some sample score files from which I gleaned the following instrument parameters: clarinet, cello, bell, wind, flute, drum, bass, kalimba, conga, and gong. Unfortunately, to my (admittedly untrained) ear, many did not sound much like the instrument they were named after. This was an important requirement that MIDI was able to meet, and certainly not one I expected the MusicKit to fail. Including good sample instruments in the MusicKit seemed like an obvious thing to do. So, for those of you who are willing to go to great lengths for great music, it seems the MusicKit beats out all but the high-end MIDI boxes. For those of you looking to create simple, but realistic music, the MIDI box seems to provide what you need more easily. Thanks once again for all your help. - David Marwood - marwood@cpsc.ucalgary.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: imj1@bonjour.cc.columbia.edu (Imad M Jureidini) Subject: NEXTSTEP/FIP compatible with S3 928? Message-ID: <1993Jul1.151829.8214@news.columbia.edu> Sender: usenet@news.columbia.edu (The Network News) Organization: Columbia University Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1993 15:18:29 GMT Hello! I am thinking of putting together a system to run NEXTSTEP, but I would rather buy an S3 928 based video card than an S3 805 card. As I was wondering about PC Expo the other day, an S3 928 card vendor assured me that the 928 chipset was entirely compatible with the 805. He said I should be able to run the current version of NEXTSTEP (3.1) with the S3 928. Is that true? Or will I have to wait for NEXTSTEP 3.2? Thanks a lot! ******************************************************************************* * imj1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu Imad "Hexabyte" Jureidini * * The Ultimate Knight, Grand Priest of the Secrets of the Undefined. * *******************************************************************************
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware From: che@media.mit.edu (Natalio C. Pincever) Subject: Faxmail on 486 Message-ID: <1993Jul1.150320.5918@news.media.mit.edu> Sender: news@news.media.mit.edu (USENET News System) Organization: MIT Media Laboratory Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1993 15:03:20 GMT I'm not sure which newsgroup is the right one, but... I need to know ASAP if NeXTstep 486 still supports faxmail: you remember, it was possible to fax ANYTHING on those wonderfull black pieces of hardware. I'm making a recommendation on faxmail tomorrow, and need this vital piece of information. Anything to spread the gospel... Natalio Pincever, a NeRD in exile PS: PLease reply via email, as I cannot read news too often...
Message-ID: <4o$@byu.edu> Date: Thu, 1 Jul 93 09:43:13 MDT From: pmarc@wyoming.et.byu.edu (Paul M. Cardon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Distribution: world References: <cue-010793001014@17.127.11.59> Organization: Brigham Young University, Provo UT USA Subject: Re: NS 3.1 update for Mot/FIP In article <cue-010793001014@17.127.11.59>, cue@apple.com (Eddy Cue) writes: >Does the NextStep 3.1 update for the Motorola processor include any Intel >files? I own a copy of 3.0 and want the full FIP package, but don't want to >pay the full price. The 3.1 user updates are different for each machine and would both have to be purchased if you want both. However, the developer package is FAT and you contains the libraries necessary to compile for any supported architecture on just one machine. Paul
From: leed@oasys.dt.navy.mil (David Lee) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware Subject: Re: ATI Ultra Pro or S3-928? Message-ID: <38667@oasys.dt.navy.mil> Date: 1 Jul 93 15:50:28 GMT References: <chris.741367588@vincent1.iastate.edu> <1993Jul1.021412.13606@sol.UVic.CA> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.advocacy Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD The S3 based 928 will dust the ATI Ultra Pro. I have a Diamond Stealth Pro ISA and it is faster than a ATI Ultra Pro VL-BUS in a Gateway 486-66V. This comes from experience with both computers.
From: bill@az.stratus.com (Bill Everts) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Help with PC System Configuration Date: 1 Jul 1993 16:20:52 GMT Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA Message-ID: <20v2t4$2hg@transfer.stratus.com> References: <1993Jun30.145339.69598@cc.usu.edu> In article <1993Jun30.145339.69598@cc.usu.edu> slhw4@cc.usu.edu (Jason Hunsaker) writes: > I'm going to be venturing out into the PC market in mid > September. In the meantime, I'm trying to figure out what kind > of system configuration I want. I need some opinions and > comments about harware and pricing. But here is the > configuration I'm looking at: > > (I should be eligible for Edu discounts if available. Prices are > in parenthesis if they are an estimate, otherwise, they are the > best I have found so far.) > > Hardware > -------- > [cut lots of stuff from here....] > > > $ 1989 : + Sony CPD-2036s 20" monitor, .30mm, 1280x1024 NI > > [cut lots of stuff from here....] > > Well, that's the wish list for now. I'd appreciate any comments > or suggestions about this configutarion either from this > newsgroup or email. > > _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ > Internet: slhw4@cc.usu.edu (Jason Hunsaker), Logan, Utah I would highly recommend you call GEC Computer. They are a NeXT Approved Dealer and have EXCELLENT prices. Call Jeannie @ 1-800-486-1500 for a quote. Tell her you want a quote on their NeXT Step approved system. Monitor-wise, I have looked at lots of 20" monitors and for what they give you in screen real estate vs what they take up in desk space, they really aren't worth the extra bucks over a good 17" monitor. I now own a Scepter 17" monitor which I purchased from GEC for $1189 (I am sure their prices are subject to change). It has a Sony Trinitron tube and its .20mm dot pitch at 1280x1024 creates the cleanest picture I have ever seen. The difference in price allowed me to buy more memory, too. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Everts bill_everts@vos.stratus.com Stratus Computer, Inc 1-800-828-8513 Telecom CAC 4455 E Camleback Rd #115-a Phoenix AZ 85018 -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Everts bill_everts@vos.stratus.com Stratus Computer, Inc 1-800-828-8513 Telecom CAC 4455 E Camleback Rd #115-a Phoenix AZ 85018
From: bill@az.stratus.com (Bill Everts) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Help with PC System Configuration Date: 1 Jul 1993 16:21:07 GMT Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA Message-ID: <20v2tj$2if@transfer.stratus.com> References: <1993Jun30.145339.69598@cc.usu.edu> In article <1993Jun30.145339.69598@cc.usu.edu> slhw4@cc.usu.edu (Jason Hunsaker) writes: > I'm going to be venturing out into the PC market in mid > September. In the meantime, I'm trying to figure out what kind > of system configuration I want. I need some opinions and > comments about harware and pricing. But here is the > configuration I'm looking at: > > (I should be eligible for Edu discounts if available. Prices are > in parenthesis if they are an estimate, otherwise, they are the > best I have found so far.) > > Hardware > -------- > [cut lots of stuff from here....] > > > $ 1989 : + Sony CPD-2036s 20" monitor, .30mm, 1280x1024 NI > > [cut lots of stuff from here....] > > Well, that's the wish list for now. I'd appreciate any comments > or suggestions about this configutarion either from this > newsgroup or email. > > _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ > Internet: slhw4@cc.usu.edu (Jason Hunsaker), Logan, Utah I would highly recommend you call GEC Computer. They are a NeXT Approved Dealer and have EXCELLENT prices. Call Jeannie @ 1-800-486-1500 for a quote. Tell her you want a quote on their NeXT Step approved system. Monitor-wise, I have looked at lots of 20" monitors and for what they give you in screen real estate vs what they take up in desk space, they really aren't worth the extra bucks over a good 17" monitor. I now own a Scepter 17" monitor which I purchased from GEC for $1189 (I am sure their prices are subject to change). It has a Sony Trinitron tube and its .20mm dot pitch at 1280x1024 creates the cleanest picture I have ever seen. The difference in price allowed me to buy more memory, too. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Everts bill_everts@vos.stratus.com Stratus Computer, Inc 1-800-828-8513 Telecom CAC 4455 E Camleback Rd #115-a Phoenix AZ 85018 -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Everts bill_everts@vos.stratus.com Stratus Computer, Inc 1-800-828-8513 Telecom CAC 4455 E Camleback Rd #115-a Phoenix AZ 85018
From: bill@az.stratus.com (Bill Everts) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Help with PC System Configuration Date: 1 Jul 1993 16:33:40 GMT Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA Message-ID: <20v3l4$34m@transfer.stratus.com> References: <1993Jun30.145339.69598@cc.usu.edu> In article <1993Jun30.145339.69598@cc.usu.edu> slhw4@cc.usu.edu (Jason Hunsaker) writes: > I'm going to be venturing out into the PC market in mid > September. In the meantime, I'm trying to figure out what kind > of system configuration I want. I need some opinions and > comments about harware and pricing. But here is the > configuration I'm looking at: > [cut lots of stuff from here....] > > > $ 1989 : + Sony CPD-2036s 20" monitor, .30mm, 1280x1024 NI > > [cut lots of stuff from here....] > > Well, that's the wish list for now. I'd appreciate any comments > or suggestions about this configutarion either from this > newsgroup or email. > > _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ > Internet: slhw4@cc.usu.edu (Jason Hunsaker), Logan, Utah I would highly recommend you call GEC Computer. They are a NeXT Approved Dealer and have EXCELLENT prices. Call Jeannie @ 1-800-486-1500 for a quote. Tell her you want a quote on their NeXT Step approved system. Monitor-wise, I have looked at lots of 20" monitors and for what they give you in screen real estate vs what they take up in desk space, they really aren't worth the extra bucks over a good 17" monitor. I now own a Scepter 17" monitor which I purchased from GEC for $1189 (I am sure their prices are subject to change). It has a Sony Trinitron tube and its .20mm dot pitch at 1280x1024 creates the cleanest picture I have ever seen. The difference in price allowed me to buy more memory, too. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Everts bill_everts@vos.stratus.com Stratus Computer, Inc 1-800-828-8513 Telecom CAC 4455 E Camleback Rd #115-a Phoenix AZ 85018 -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Everts bill_everts@vos.stratus.com Stratus Computer, Inc 1-800-828-8513 Telecom CAC 4455 E Camleback Rd #115-a Phoenix AZ 85018
From: bill@az.stratus.com (Bill Everts) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Help with PC System Configuration Date: 1 Jul 1993 16:34:11 GMT Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA Message-ID: <20v3m3$35a@transfer.stratus.com> References: <1993Jun30.145339.69598@cc.usu.edu> In article <1993Jun30.145339.69598@cc.usu.edu> slhw4@cc.usu.edu (Jason Hunsaker) writes: > I'm going to be venturing out into the PC market in mid > September. In the meantime, I'm trying to figure out what kind > of system configuration I want. I need some opinions and > comments about harware and pricing. But here is the > configuration I'm looking at: > [cut lots of stuff from here....] > > > $ 1989 : + Sony CPD-2036s 20" monitor, .30mm, 1280x1024 NI > > [cut lots of stuff from here....] > > Well, that's the wish list for now. I'd appreciate any comments > or suggestions about this configutarion either from this > newsgroup or email. > > _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ > Internet: slhw4@cc.usu.edu (Jason Hunsaker), Logan, Utah I would highly recommend you call GEC Computer. They are a NeXT Approved Dealer and have EXCELLENT prices. Call Jeannie @ 1-800-486-1500 for a quote. Tell her you want a quote on their NeXT Step approved system. Monitor-wise, I have looked at lots of 20" monitors and for what they give you in screen real estate vs what they take up in desk space, they really aren't worth the extra bucks over a good 17" monitor. I now own a Scepter 17" monitor which I purchased from GEC for $1189 (I am sure their prices are subject to change). It has a Sony Trinitron tube and its .20mm dot pitch at 1280x1024 creates the cleanest picture I have ever seen. The difference in price allowed me to buy more memory, too. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Everts bill_everts@vos.stratus.com Stratus Computer, Inc 1-800-828-8513 Telecom CAC 4455 E Camleback Rd #115-a Phoenix AZ 85018 -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Everts bill_everts@vos.stratus.com Stratus Computer, Inc 1-800-828-8513 Telecom CAC 4455 E Camleback Rd #115-a Phoenix AZ 85018
From: bill@az.stratus.com (Bill Everts) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Help with PC System Configuration Date: 1 Jul 1993 16:34:25 GMT Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA Message-ID: <20v3mh$35i@transfer.stratus.com> References: <1993Jun30.145339.69598@cc.usu.edu> In article <1993Jun30.145339.69598@cc.usu.edu> slhw4@cc.usu.edu (Jason Hunsaker) writes: > I'm going to be venturing out into the PC market in mid > September. In the meantime, I'm trying to figure out what kind > of system configuration I want. I need some opinions and > comments about harware and pricing. But here is the > configuration I'm looking at: > [cut lots of stuff from here....] > > > $ 1989 : + Sony CPD-2036s 20" monitor, .30mm, 1280x1024 NI > > [cut lots of stuff from here....] > > Well, that's the wish list for now. I'd appreciate any comments > or suggestions about this configutarion either from this > newsgroup or email. > > _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ > Internet: slhw4@cc.usu.edu (Jason Hunsaker), Logan, Utah I would highly recommend you call GEC Computer. They are a NeXT Approved Dealer and have EXCELLENT prices. Call Jeannie @ 1-800-486-1500 for a quote. Tell her you want a quote on their NeXT Step approved system. Monitor-wise, I have looked at lots of 20" monitors and for what they give you in screen real estate vs what they take up in desk space, they really aren't worth the extra bucks over a good 17" monitor. I now own a Scepter 17" monitor which I purchased from GEC for $1189 (I am sure their prices are subject to change). It has a Sony Trinitron tube and its .20mm dot pitch at 1280x1024 creates the cleanest picture I have ever seen. The difference in price allowed me to buy more memory, too. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Everts bill_everts@vos.stratus.com Stratus Computer, Inc 1-800-828-8513 Telecom CAC 4455 E Camleback Rd #115-a Phoenix AZ 85018
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: drew@fnbc.com (Drew Davidson) Subject: Re: Where is NS/Intel Excitement? Message-ID: <1993Jul1.152755.27403@fnbc.com> Sender: news@fnbc.com Organization: First National Bank Of Chicago, Chicago IL, USA References: <Jul1.010028.47639@acs.ucalgary.ca> Date: Thu, 1 Jul 93 15:27:55 GMT In article <Jul1.010028.47639@acs.ucalgary.ca> bstone@acs.ucalgary.ca (Blake Stone) writes: > [ List of newsgroups and relative volumes deleted ] > > > It would seem that comp.sys.next is not really that important > > ... > > At least it's more important than Sun. :-) > > I'm afraid the benchmark measures total volume of intenet news... > how is that related to "importance"? It's interesting that > NeXTSTEP, with an installed base in the 50-70 thousand range has > more than half as much traffic as Windows, with an installed base > in the (guesstimates anyone? 20 million?) range. > > I think you could claim, therefore, that NeXT users are about 400 > times as verbose as Windows users. :-) Actually, I think that you hit it right on the head. In a recent study it was found that the genetic makeup of NEXTSTEP users is slightly different than that of "ordinary" people. Using sophisticated genetic analysis software reveals that, in addition to DNA and RNA, NEXTSTEP users have a chemical component of their genetic makeup dubbed VNA, for VerboNucleic Acid. This appears to be the root cause of the rampant fanaticism and prolific postings of NEXTSTEP advocates. No cure has as yet been found, but studies continue. > -- > Blake W. Stone | DKW Systems Corporation > Chief Technical Officer | A N[EXTSTEP,eXT[STEP,step,Step]] VAR > bstone@acs.ucalgary.ca | > | ... couldn't have been ME -- +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------------+ | Drew Davidson | "Never ask a programmer if he'll have | | Software Guy | another cup of coffee because it's | | First National Bank of Chicago | nobody's damn business how much he's | | drew@fnbc.com (NeXTmail) | already had!" - me | +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------------+
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) Subject: Re: PC Expo Message-ID: <1993Jul1.164520.14757@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: DSO, Stanford University References: <9307010246.AA00304@drkstar.aiko.gun.com> Date: Thu, 1 Jul 93 16:45:20 GMT Robert K. Wilson writes > > Does anyone know what is going on at PC Expo in New York? > > Does NeXT have a booth? > > > NeXT Inc. did not have a booth Sigh. So much for the promises of aggressive marketing. The stealth computer lives on, now even harder to see because it doesn't come in an eye-catching black box. Seriously, folks. People who go to PC Expo and the like are not looking to buy 386SX systems. They're looking at 486-50s and Pentiums. Why isn't NeXT there showing them the best OS to actually make use of that kind of power???? > but there was a NEXTSTEP presence at several of the PC > vendors there showing their wares running our beloved OS. Good, but not enough. -- - Stefano Pagiola Food Research Institute, Stanford University spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged) spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: claire@cubx.com (Claire Normand) Subject: Demo version of Cub'X-Window v4.0 for black hardware Message-ID: <1993Jun30.170742.29435@cubx.com> Sender: news@cubx.com Organization: Cub'x Systemes - Rueil Malmaison, France. Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1993 17:07:42 GMT The demo version of Cub'X-Window v4.0 for NeXT computers in archive server cs.orst.edu has been moved from directory /pub/next/submissions to /pub/next/XNeXT. The NSFIP demo version will soon follow. Claire Normand Cub'x Systemes Immeuble Sedgwick 7, Rue E. & A. Peugeot 92563 Rueil Malmaison Cedex - France Tel : (+33) (1) 47 08 74 40 Fax : (+33) (1) 47 08 74 41 e-mail : claire@cubx.com (NeXT mail OK)
From: bill@az.stratus.com (Bill Everts) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Help with PC System Configuration (Sorry) Date: 1 Jul 1993 19:20:27 GMT Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA Message-ID: <20vddr$8vk@transfer.stratus.com> References: <20v2t4$2hg@transfer.stratus.com> In article <20v2t4$2hg@transfer.stratus.com> bill@az.stratus.com (Bill Everts) writes: > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > Bill Everts bill_everts@vos.stratus.com > Stratus Computer, Inc 1-800-828-8513 > Telecom CAC > 4455 E Camleback Rd #115-a Phoenix AZ 85018 > > Sorry - runaway newsgrazer! It told me it was unable to post - LIAR! -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Everts bill_everts@vos.stratus.com Stratus Computer, Inc 1-800-828-8513 Telecom CAC 4455 E Camleback Rd #115-a Phoenix AZ 85018
From: nico@imani.cam.org (Nicolas Dore) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NS/FIP netboot? Message-ID: <1993Jul1.155706.3448@imani.cam.org> Date: 1 Jul 93 15:57:06 GMT References: <1993Jun30.121016.4444@uunet!cbmvax!xmws!kripalu> Sender: nico@imani.cam.org In article <1993Jun30.121016.4444@uunet!cbmvax!xmws!kripalu> harit@kripalu.com writes: [stuff about running NS/I on network and having 1 licence for user/dev for use by all networed machines] > As long as the clients use -NXHost then only one license is needed. What if you have bought 1 (licence, whatever...) copy of Mesa? (no gratuitous plug here. I'm just trying to get David Pollak to clear this out for all of us from his law-degree throne. 8^) I mayself did 3 years of law school, but I didn't stick around for the degree) Could you have 20 machines running it over the net simultaneously? Even in -NXHost mode (on a single machine, however impractical that might be)? I think not! > Though I just reread the license and there are limitations on use > of bitmaps and printing but no limitation on use of the software to > one person or one machine. So as far as I can tell (not a lawyer) > we can use the software as much as we want. Look, what they give you is the right "for one person to use it"/"to use it on one machine" (I don't have NS FIP on front of me, so I can't check). Both mean basically the same thing. Copying it over the net is the same as copying with a CD-Rom drive. If you feel you can buy NS FIP once and install it from the CD-Rom on more than one machine, you will probably feel you can run a number of machines over the net with a single licence. In that case, go ahead. You're no worse doing that than installing it with the CD-Rom! BTW The confusion may stem from the fact that we didn't need to care about licences with black hardware, except for newer versions of NS (But then NeXT sold right-to-use licences for 3.0). Your machine came bundled with the right to use of the version shipping at the time of purchase, and later even with the code (when they started shipping CDs). This is a different ball game. Threat NS FIP just like any piece of software, legally speaking. Ciao > -- > Michael Allen Latta > Kripalu Center > harit@kripalu.com > (413)448-3288 -- Nicolas Dore nico@imani.cam.org - - - - - - - - - CAREFUL! POLITICAL COMMENT ZONE!! - - - - - - - - - > "If I can't dance, I don't want to be in your revolution!" < > Emma Goldman (to Vladimir Ilitch Oulianov [Lenin], 1917) <
From: npratt@gecko.modsys (Nevin Pratt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: PC Expo Date: 1 Jul 1993 20:39:12 GMT Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <20vi1g$q1u@cnn.sim.es.com> References: <1993Jul1.164520.14757@leland.Stanford.EDU> In article 14757@leland.Stanford.EDU, spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) writes: > > > Does anyone know what is going on at PC Expo in New York? > > > Does NeXT have a booth? > > > > > NeXT Inc. did not have a booth > > Sigh. So much for the promises of aggressive marketing. > The stealth computer lives on, now even harder to see because it > doesn't come in an eye-catching black box. A related item: the June issue of "Journal of Object-Oriented Programming". The back outside cover is a NEXTSTEP ad-- the same one that appeared in Byte.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: ganek@apollo.hp.com (Daniel E. Ganek) Subject: HSD Fax Modem Problem Sender: usenet@apollo.hp.com (Usenet News) Message-ID: <C9I4Iw.8uy@apollo.hp.com> Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1993 19:52:08 GMT Distribution: usa Organization: Hewlett-Packard Corporation, Chelmsford, MA Well, I gave up on the ZoomFax modem and got an HSD FaxModem (used). Everything I have heard and read said that it'll "just work". Well, it didn't. Under NS2.1 I configured it according to the instructions (HSD and Next's), the modem went on-line (DTR) but when I tried to fax I got an error dialog which said that the fax sw failed and that I should restart the computer. I did, the same thing happened. The console.log said !! No such device !! Wakeup pipe (or something very close to this) Any ideas? /dan ganek ganek@apollo.hp.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware Subject: Re: ATI Ultra Pro or S3-928? Message-ID: <ibhan.741562200@husc.harvard.edu> From: ibhan@husc8.harvard.edu (Ishir Bhan) Date: 1 Jul 93 21:30:00 GMT References: <1993Jul1.021412.13606@sol.UVic.CA> <mr2C9GuMr.6BC@netcom.com> <1993Jul1.050436.18309@sol.UVic.CA> Does anyone know if there's any support planned for the Weitek 9000 RISC chip (on, say, a Diamond Viper)? I'd jump for NeXTStep if this was available, but I'm hesitant to buy if it's going to be released soon...I want the fastest video I can get without having to buy a DGX system...Diamond Viper looks great, but doesn't seem to be supported by NeXTStep yet. -- ****************************************************************************** Ishir Bhan * "It takes years to find the nerve..." ibhan@husc.harvard.edu * -New Order, "All The Way" ******************************************************************************
From: mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Alex) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Where is NS/Intel Excitement? Message-ID: <88230@ut-emx.uucp> Date: 1 Jul 93 19:47:14 GMT References: <1993Jun29.205959.14382@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@ut-emx.uucp Organization: Klatu Verata Necktie In article <C9EI37.n2x@dove.nist.gov> Eric S. Boltz, eboltz@acoustica.mrd.bldrdoc.gov writes: >> Here are some statistics, from news.lists: >> 80 1432 2273273 comp.os.ms-windows.* >> 112 1135 1747062 comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.* >> 148 877 1396797 comp.sys.next.* >> 118 899 1677864 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware >> >> It would seem that comp.sys.next is not really that important ... >> > >The fact that c.s.n.* managed more than half the number of postings of >c.os.ms-win.* is impressive to me. Judging news traffic strictly by volume obscures the (possible) true facts of the matter. It says nothing about the content of the messages or of whether they are positive postings or negative postings... for all I know of c.o.ms-window.* every last post there could be people bitching about how badly windows sucks. Were this the case (and it very well could be) it would be hardly fair to say that Windows ws doing better than NeXT, agreed? There could be some masive crosspostings between OS/2 and DOS groups or maybe someone in windows.marketplace made a bad deal which is generating 30 responses a day. What would be more accurate would be a breakdown by topic and content... 30 messages praising this new app, 20 messages about some good press, 40 messages asking for configuration recommendations by potential buyers, 10 SUN salesmen doing damage control for Solaris... you get the picture. ---------------------------------- Alex Currier HotLine Technical Support Texas Union MicroCenter, UT Austin ----------------------------------
From: mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Alex) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Mud huts and trenches Message-ID: <88231@ut-emx.uucp> Date: 1 Jul 93 19:55:54 GMT References: <1993Jun29.161142.17899@prim> Sender: news@ut-emx.uucp Organization: Klatu Verata Necktie In article <1993Jun29.161142.17899@prim> Dave Griffiths, dave@prim.demon.co.uk writes: >In my original article, I wasn't questioning the use of good tools, but >rather the (IMO) misplaced passion that such tools arouse. There were a lot >of folk getting worked up about Sun vs NeXT and I was wondering why no-one >(other than you ;-) gets similarly excited over such things as spoons vs >backhoes. If someone told you they were quite happy to dig their trench with >a spoon, you wouldn't start ranting and raving like some NeXT advocates do >and telling them they should be using a backhoe. I'm sure you'd be much more >interested in why they were building the trench, or complimenting them on >their handiwork. Anyone for alt.trench.backhoe.advocacy? :-) Imagine: You have a point there. I would probably look at them oddly and wonder what odd discipline training courses they were taking, I might mention they try a backhoe (maybe they never thought of it) but if they said "no thanks... I like the spoon and I can't afford the backhoe" I would accept that and move along. Of course, computers are a religious topic (haven't you noticed) and these sorts of OS comparisons drive people with more fervor than the Crusades (the Microsoft Inquisition?). It's something you learn to live with. >>>This Spoon stuff shows up in every other article, and I'm sick >>>of it. I'm sorry, I though I was being original... I didn't realize the spoon had been done before. >But actually I think a better counter-argument would be to argue that >software is the modern equivalent of poetry. It's the stuff of dreams, and no >more a tool than language is a tool. Windows is a mud hut while NeXTSTEP is a >cathedral. Once again you have a good point. While a hammer is just a hammer, a fine paintbrush may make the difference between a smooth stroke and a blotted mess. Of course, a truly great painter can create art with fingerpaints. For those of us who have the option between what we see as a fine sword and a stone club... we will choose the sword and wonder at those who carry the clubs. (metaphor hell!) ---------------------------------- Alex Currier HotLine Technical Support Texas Union MicroCenter, UT Austin ----------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: greg@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson) Subject: Re: PC Expo Message-ID: <1993Jul1.220724.3306@afs.com> Sender: greg@afs.com References: <1993Jul1.164520.14757@leland.Stanford.EDU> Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1993 22:07:24 GMT In article <1993Jul1.164520.14757@leland.Stanford.EDU> spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) writes: > Robert K. Wilson writes > > > Does anyone know what is going on at PC Expo in New York? > > > Does NeXT have a booth? > > > > > NeXT Inc. did not have a booth > > Sigh. So much for the promises of aggressive marketing. > The stealth computer lives on, now even harder to see because it > doesn't come in an eye-catching black box. > > Seriously, folks. People who go to PC Expo and the like are not > looking to buy 386SX systems. They're looking at 486-50s and > Pentiums. Why isn't NeXT there showing them the best OS to actually > make use of that kind of power???? > > > but there was a NEXTSTEP presence at several of the PC > > vendors there showing their wares running our beloved OS. > > Good, but not enough. NeXT DID have a booth across town at the Securities Industry Association trade show in New York during the same days (June 28-30). Considering that NeXT is NOT pursuing the mass market for now, and IS committing most of its marketing resources to financial services, this was the right choice. I was at the booth (I know, it seems like that's all I do these days), and they got a good reception. At PC Expo, they would have been one among hundreds, and to what end? They did everything at the SIA show that you're talking about, but to the specific audience they want to attract. I'd call that smart marketing. -- Gregory H. Anderson | "If you've got eyes to rhythmatize Composer-in-Residence | Bring your flat hat and your ax Anderson Financial Systems | 'Cause tonight at 10 we'll be workin' again" greg@afs.com (NeXTmail OK) | -- Donald Fagen, "Teahouse on the Tracks"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: imj1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Imad M Jureidini) Subject: Toshiba XM3401 and NEXTSTEP FIP Message-ID: <1993Jul2.022628.16327@news.columbia.edu> Sender: usenet@news.columbia.edu (The Network News) Organization: Columbia University Hi! I am having some trouble installing NEXTSTEP on my computer. I have an I would really appreciate any help I could get with this. This is Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1993 02:26:28 GMT Thanks a lot! ******************************************************************************* * imj1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu Imad "Hexabyte" Jureidini * * The Ultimate Knight, Grand Priest of the Secrets of the Undefined. * *******************************************************************************
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: imj1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Imad M Jureidini) Subject: Toshiba 3401 cdrom and NEXTSTEP/FIP Message-ID: <1993Jul2.031107.17927@news.columbia.edu> Sender: usenet@news.columbia.edu (The Network News) Organization: Columbia University Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1993 03:11:07 GMT Hi again! It looks like I messed up somewhere in my previous post, so here is a summary of my problems. I have an 486/50, an adaptec 1542b, a Maxtor 340 mb hard drive, and a toshiba 3401 cdrom drive. When I boot from the instllation disk, my cdrom drive is not found. I suspect the problem comes from the fact the SCSI bus is reset, since I had that problem under DOS. Under DOS, the solution was to insert a No Reset flag in the CDROM driver. However I don't know what to do in this case. Has anyone succeded in installing NEXTSTEP with a Toshiba CDROM? Or is it not compatible? I would really appreciate some help with this. Thanks a lot! ******************************************************************************* * imj1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu Imad "Hexabyte" Jureidini * * The Ultimate Knight, Grand Priest of the Secrets of the Undefined. * *******************************************************************************
From: slhw4@cc.usu.edu (Jason Hunsaker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Help with PC System Configuration Message-ID: <1993Jul1.233032.69641@cc.usu.edu> Date: 1 Jul 93 23:30:32 MDT References: <1993Jun30.145339.69598@cc.usu.edu> <1993Jul1.023455.14233@sol.UVic.CA> Organization: Utah State University In article <1993Jul1.023455.14233@sol.UVic.CA>, dmanke@sanjuan (Dennis Manke) writes: [...] > By Sept, we should be seeing several PCI based machines on the > market. With that, I'm hoping they do away with EISA and ISA and > build in SCSI-2. Bus arbitration avail with PCI should result in > better throughput with multiple local-bus boards. Also there is > BIOS that now supports SCSI, but only for the PCI bus and there's > apparently a hot new SCSI-2 chip, but again, funded partially by > Intel and hence only for the PCI bus. But if this is the case, will PCI be supported by NEXTSTEP by then (ie, NS3.2)? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Internet: slhw4@cc.usu.edu (Jason Hunsaker), Logan, Utah
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,aus.computers From: Aris Theocharides <aris@foucault.maths.mu.OZ.AU> Subject: Summary/Extracts "What NeXT is doing wrong" Message-ID: <9318316.20973@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> Keywords: NeXT Sender: news@cs.mu.OZ.AU Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1993 06:29:07 GMT Follows is a summary/extract response of my asking what NeXT is doing wrong. As was expected the main point was lack of marketing/advertizing. Most points are minor and one expects there to be problems with all products. Most people where really happy with NeXTSTEP and most people think that the move to software was a good one. Why did I do this summary, especially when it has all been said before? In Australia I hope that NeXT does not make the same mistakes twice. NeXT seems to be poised to sell directly here in Australia. Questions like whether it will offer any sort of academic support/offers are crucial to many academics who would like to use NeXTSTEP themselves. Like many who have beleived in NeXT (because of the MANY things they have done RIGHT!!!!) I have been tormented with not being able to share my knowledge with others (except for the general overseas community). Hopefully here in Australia we can help NeXT find a place especially in the academic environment. Thank you to all the people who responded. I am not including contributors names, but if anyone has a need to ask further I shall be glad to pass on a message. Aris. _______________________________________________________________________________ - weak support for non-netinfo-domaines - no reaction to error-reports (bug reports in NS 2.1 have not been recified in 3.0) - lack of function keys (does this change on the Intel keyboards?) - conflict on international versions with choice of function keys and special keys @,|,[,],{,},\ - better X-Windows (non-third party) support - faster and better response to bug reports - the non-US markets have to be given better attention _______________________________________________________________________________ - more advertising, printed and broadcasted _______________________________________________________________________________ - NeXT is too afraid of the mainstream - NeXT should advertise in PC magazines - are too afraid of seeking broader acceptance _______________________________________________________________________________ - inadeqate support for C++ _______________________________________________________________________________ - could write a tome on what NeXT is doing wrong :-) _______________________________________________________________________________ - can't swap to a partition, must be a file - doesn't provide full support for things like shadow password files - the Cube keyboard. All the important Unix keys are on the keypad! - As far as marketing, I have to ask: What marketing? _______________________________________________________________________________ - do not have a market focus - they do not respond in positive ways to people external to NeXT - better service and customer orientation - NeXT deal with people outside as though they do not know what they are doing - you can send NeXT email, and they may never respond - communicating with NeXT is like talking to a Black Hole - NeXT is the best machine I have ever worked on, and one of the most worthless companies I have ever seen - If NeXT Inc. was a resturant, with the service they have given, they would certainly have received no tip and I probably would have walked out. The fact that they have a 5 star chef, and the best food in town does not give anyone the right to be snooty and not respect me as a customer. _______________________________________________________________________________ - charging for developer support _______________________________________________________________________________ - NeXT should bundle Posix and the C compiler with the user version of NeXTstep. NeXT should not try to imitate Sun. _______________________________________________________________________________ - the product-placement is poor - the price is too high - Steve Jobs is a poor company leader - speaking for Germany, NeXT was not too friendly to its distributors .The distributors had to pay prior to delivery, got no information or marketing advice, only small margins, very restrictive contracts. In fact the whole marketing was left to the initiative of the distributors. - there is no reaonable break-in on market. They can not charge $800 or whatever for an unknown PC OS. They should dump some 10.000 copies for $100 (only one for each person), keep track of their adresses and let cook it hot. With rise of new applications and the news of successful projects with mission critical applications they may go to $1000 and sell a million. For $1000 is nothing for a company searching for a solution but too much for a student who is just curious. - still there are no ads in computer magazines. _______________________________________________________________________________ - give it a rest and save us from more of this continued nonsense (aris: this was a message to me from a justifiable bored/fed up with NeXT programmer). _______________________________________________________________________________ - Make it easier to buy NeXTStep/I - is it possible to get a diskette from NeXT (free) that would check your system and tell you whether or not NS/I will run on your machine? MS has such a diskette for Windows 3.1. - target the student population - corporate users will almost _always_ choose the most popular ("established" if you like) OS and not the "best" one - For student users, make the pot sweeter..include (at a nominal cost) SoftPC, Improv, WordPerfect and Mathematica. This need be done only for a short time, say a year, till demand catches on. I am sure these software companies could be convinced. Reason: Compare the price: a reasonable NS/installed machine costs upwards of $5K, while you can get a reasonable OS/2 running machine (or Windows, or DOS) _with_ all the software for under $3K. Sure, you get a faster machine, and a great operating system for that extra $2K, but many, including myself, are hesitant. - Finally, like IBM is doing with OS/2 (and MS with Windows) is it possible for NeXT to run "leaner" operating systems for "low end" machines? (This may be difficult, but you would get many more student users.) _______________________________________________________________________________ - Advertising, Advertising, Advertising - offer very attractive deals (with Mathematica and other standard programs, word-processing, spreadsheets) to students _______________________________________________________________________________ - frequent demos in schools will create awarenes in NeXT. - NeXT should encourage third party software developers _______________________________________________________________________________ - NeXT has already heard from us.... and has choosen to ignore us. - NeXT officials... are nothing less than arrogant in their response to user critisisms - some of the technically brilliant people at NeXT ought to take a course or something in tactful ethics, and if that doesn't work, hide them from the public! _______________________________________________________________________________ - NeXT is perfect, NeXTSTEP is perfect, Steve is perfect. - Any thought about so called errors is a sin against the new religion, the NeXT God. - I don't know what NeXT has done wrong but I know what they do right: shoot themselves in their own feet. _______________________________________________________________________________ - NeXT does not appreciate somebody telling it what it is doing wrong - unless it is a bug report _______________________________________________________________________________ - I don't think NeXT are doing anything wrong at all - If NeXT has done anything wrong, it is rushing out NS3.1 for Intel. 3.1 has virtually no device drivers, and the so-called "drivers update" is now dragging into August. I think they could have waited an extra two months to release a slightly more complete product. - they need to write some drivers which will convert postscript to HP PCL - it is important that NeXT talks to as many peripherals as possible - Get the drivers update CD-ROM out *SOONER* than later, or ship 3.2 with SoftPC bundled in September as promised. - provide drivers for non-postscript printers - create an "8-bit color" mode. This will open up NEXTSTEP to virtually thousands of 1MB video cards running 1024x768 with 256 colors. Who uses 65,000 colors anyway? - port, port, port. Get NS onto as many RISC platforms as possible. - partnerships. Need I say more? - marketing and channels. Pull your finger out NeXT, you have the best product, but the worst marketing. Cute videos are not going to reach the mass market. Also, Steve Jobs asking all the user groups to "ask their local computer store to stock NEXTSTEP" is a lame-duck approach, especially since 3.1 is so incomplete. _______________________________________________________________________________ - source code control well integrated with the NeXT tools. This is necessary, if not only a single person is developing, but a team. Many other people have integrated that (HP, Sun, IBM) in their tools. This piece is missing. CVS would be a nice way to go. - good support for heterogeneous projects. Like 1 part dsp assembly, 1 part c++, 1 part objective-c. The makefiles don't support that nicely and it should be possible to just hack a more general set of Makefiles and make subconfigurations more encapsulated, so I don't have to care about building libraries by hand any more. Something like an automatic build for a library would be very nice indeed (without handcoding everything like in the old unix days in the makes). Also the documentation of used flags/variables is lacking. Things like the OTHER_... are not completely done. The .preamble and .postamble are not enough. This will be of increasing concern with a more heterogeneous environment coming up for the NeXT software on all the different architectures! _______________________________________________________________________________ - priced their software too high, or they've failed to explain why it is worth so much, especially to an end-user _______________________________________________________________________________ - NeXT has had no interest in setting up in Australia for most of the time it has been in operation - NeXT missed out badly by not getting a toehold in Australia in 1988 - They completly underestimated the level of support that was needed to sell to universities. They assumed it would be massive when in fact it is quite small. If you don't believe me ask Sun. They were selling machines in Australia with a staff of two in most capital cities until the cash flow paid for the expansion and now Sun Australia has better market penetration into business sales that Sun USA - NeXT should not compound the mistake by now jumping straight into the commercial deep end selling developers kits (NeXTSTEP) for $6,000 and run times for $1600 around universities. I mean they should almost be GIVING it away to uni's. Turning out students year in year out that have used your product, know all about it and can be up and running day one for a future employer is priceless selling of your product (NeXTSTEP). The investment in seeding the university market worked well for DEC, worked well for sun and micosoft and apple are both in as far as they can go. It is ironic that Steve's Jobs own strategy in the states was exactly what I am proposing but for some reason in Australia they are not going to bother. IMHO it is a mistake that they don't have time to make. With regards to Cannon and DataGeneral they have not been big in uni's and unless they do an IBM and re-invent themselves I don't see them helping NeXTSTEP much at all. Next should be setting themselves up in Australia just like Microsoft, Apple and Sun. Corporate culture is very important, NeXT has a lot of goodwill which I doubt will filter through when customers are dealing with the likes of Canon and DG. _______________________________________________________________________________ - radically expand distribution channels. Ingram/Micro is a good start, but I wanna see shrinkwrap NS/I in more PC/Mac software stores. Reason: A lot of users would go with NS if they could try before they buy. Unless they can "test-drive" a product in-store alongside other wares (such as OS/2), they'll likely go the cheap, crappy route. NS is addictive. Get people hooked by letting them use it. - NS/I User is an absolute bargain at $US795, and I realize that NeXT's licensing fees for PostScript, RenderMan, Pantone, etc. are high--but, if at all possible, lower the bar as much as possible. The cheaper, the better. - reestablish ties with Universities. In Calgary, where I live, the U of C's Microstore has NO copies of NEXTSTEP, nor are they inclined to order any. They're kinda pissed off at NeXT for spontaneously pulling the plug on hardware, and see no reason to promote NS/I in the future. NeXT still needs higher-ed. Action is critical. _______________________________________________________________________________ - NeXTSTEP 3.1 should be available to Australian academic institutions and students in the same manner as found in the US. I am sure that this will happen. - A combined bundle of Mathematica with the Intel version of NeXTSTEP would be good. Take a moment to notice that departments will often buy a machine in order to run a particular program, and I have seen this done with Mathematica. Some definite X-Windows package deal would be good, to satisfy the standards committees. - Send some advertizing to universities directly. Prove to people that NeXT has the solution to their problems. Or hasn't it? _______________________________________________________________________________ -- name: aris theocharides. address: room mg14, maths dept, melb uni, parkville, vic, australia, 3052. phone [+613] uni: 344.74.16, home: 489.90.14, fax: 344.45.99 e.mail: aris@foucault.maths.mu.OZ.AU (NeXTmail)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc,comp.sys.next.misc From: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) Subject: I need a SLIP/PPP service provider in Hawaii Message-ID: <1993Jul2.030942.773@weston.com> Sender: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1993 03:09:42 GMT I need to find a commercial SLIP/PPP service provider in the Hawaii area. If you have any suggestions, please let me know. Thanks -- Wes Spears <-------> jspears@weston.com (NeXTMail Welcome) The Weston Group 8524 Highway 6 North, 162, Houston, TX 77095
From: zryx0376@awssg6.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel (Hiwi bei R.Rabenseifner)) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP FIP Device Driver Site Date: 2 Jul 1993 11:09:34 GMT Organization: Visualization Group Comp.Center (RUS) U of Stuttgart, FRG Distribution: world Message-ID: <21151e$137l@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> References: <741532267peterk.postmast@pknms.toppoint.de> Keywords: drivers In article <741532267peterk.postmast@pknms.toppoint.de> peterk@pknms.toppoint.de (Peter Kretzschmar) writes: >Hello world, > >is there a ftp-site, where i can get the latest device drivers for >NS FIP ? I'm looking for Adaptec 1742 drivers. Does NeXT release drivers >or driver updates between OS release dates ? > There is no 174x driver yet. New drivers between releases are provided via nextanswers@next.com (try email with subject "help, index"). The only updated driver there up to now is a driver for the Wingine card. Regards, Markus. -- /dev Markus Wenzel, University of Stuttgart /usr/spool/mail wenzel@rus.uni-stuttgart.de ~/.ircrc/nick Marsu /etc/motd NeXTSTEP for Intel - Come on and join!
From: zryx0376@awssg6.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel (Hiwi bei R.Rabenseifner)) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Toshiba 3401 cdrom and NEXTSTEP/FIP Date: 2 Jul 1993 11:19:58 GMT Organization: Visualization Group Comp.Center (RUS) U of Stuttgart, FRG Message-ID: <2115ku$r2a@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> References: <1993Jul2.031107.17927@news.columbia.edu> In article <1993Jul2.031107.17927@news.columbia.edu> imj1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Imad M Jureidini) writes: > Hi again! > It looks like I messed up somewhere in my previous post, so here is >a summary of my problems. I have an 486/50, an adaptec 1542b, a Maxtor 340 mb >hard drive, and a toshiba 3401 cdrom drive. When I boot from the instllation >disk, my cdrom drive is not found. I suspect the problem comes from the fact >the SCSI bus is reset, since I had that problem under DOS. Under DOS, the >solution was to insert a No Reset flag in the CDROM driver. However I don't I had no problems with Toshiba CD-ROM drives. Remember to remove the Adaptec's terminator if you have connected internal and external devices simultaneously! Regards, Markus. -- /dev Markus Wenzel, University of Stuttgart /usr/spool/mail wenzel@rus.uni-stuttgart.de ~/.ircrc/nick Marsu /etc/motd NeXTSTEP for Intel - Come on and join!
From: sears@tree.egr.uh.edu (Paul S. Sears) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Intel Machines: Benchmarks? Comparisons? (Test results) Date: 2 Jul 1993 13:49:28 GMT Organization: University of Houston Message-ID: <211ed8$6am@menudo.uh.edu> References: <2119q7$pqb@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> In article <2119q7$pqb@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> zryx0376@awssg6.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel (Hiwi bei R.Rabenseifner)) writes: #In article <bbrown.93Jul272254@ganesha> bbrown@solana.com writes: #>Hi, #> I need an Intel box that runs NS/FIP. I will buy a new machine #> from one of the vendors which certifies their machines as #> NS/FIP-safe. But, I need information that allows me to #> compare and contrast the machines. So, I have some questions. #> #> Is there any standard windowing benchmark for NS/FIP? #Try NXBench, available via ano-ftp. # #> Does anyone have benchmark information for some of the #> Intel machines which support NS/FIP? # #NX Bench reports on my machine (DX/2 66 with ATI GUP VLB): # #Dhrystones: # ColorStation ca. 26000 # DX/2 ca. 62000 # #NX Factor (graphics performance): # Station 1.0 # ColorStation 0.6 # DX/2 ATI GUP VLB 0.6 # #JAWS or Wingine graphic adapters should smoke the ATI. # Our ATI Ultra Pro cards had and NXFactor of .81 and .82 respectively... Yeah they *should* but they don't in reality. The ATI Ultra Pro was the second fasted graphics card we tested. We conducted benchmark tests on the following systems (with the help of Wiltel of Houston): Gateway2000 4DX2-66V with ATI Ultra Pro VLB card (66Mhz) Compaq with QVision (66Mhz) Dell DGX with Jaws (50Mhz) Epson Progression with Wingine (50Mhz) Ecesys with Wingine (66Mhz) NeXTStation Mono (25Mhz) NeXTStation Color (25Mhz) The results are rather suprising. We used two benchmark programs: BenchPress 1.0 NXBench2.0 Our results are in a PostScript file and can be found at: uhoop.uh.edu:/pub/misc/BenchMarks.compressed or via gopher: gopher.uh.edu -> Engineering Gopher -> UHOOP Archive -> misc -> BenchMarks.compressed #/dev Markus Wenzel, University of Stuttgart #/usr/spool/mail wenzel@rus.uni-stuttgart.de #~/.ircrc/nick Marsu #/etc/motd NeXTSTEP for Intel - Come on and join! -- Paul S. Sears * sears@uh.edu (NeXT Mail OK) The University of Houston * suggestions@tree.egr.uh.edu (NeXT Engineering Computing Center * comments, complaints, questions) NeXT System Administration * DoD#1967 '83 NightHawk 650SC >>> SSI Diving Certification #755020059 <<< "Programming is like sex: One mistake and you support it a lifetime."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: nwc (Nick Christopher) Subject: Re: Conversion: .jpg to .tiff in 3.1 Message-ID: <C9JIu2.75z@ny.shl.com> Sender: usenet@ny.shl.com (Net News) Organization: SHL Systemhouse Inc. References: <1993Jun22.062512.7289@Happy-Man.com> Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1993 13:58:49 GMT > > What other tool is available to do this conversion? The imageToTIFF NEXTSTEP filter will do it. \n Nicholas Christopher Systemhouse nwc@ny.shl.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc From: rcs002@acad.drake.edu Subject: Re: Intel Machines: Benchmarks? Comparisons? (Test results) Message-ID: <1993Jul2.095510.1@acad.drake.edu> Sender: news@dunix.drake.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Drake University, Des Moines, Iowa, USA References: <2119q7$pqb@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> <211ed8$6am@menudo.uh.edu> Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1993 15:55:10 GMT In article <211ed8$6am@menudo.uh.edu>, sears@tree.egr.uh.edu (Paul S. Sears) writes: > In article <2119q7$pqb@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> > zryx0376@awssg6.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel (Hiwi bei > R.Rabenseifner)) writes: > #In article <bbrown.93Jul272254@ganesha> bbrown@solana.com writes: > #> > #> [munch] > #> > Our ATI Ultra Pro cards had and NXFactor of .81 and .82 respectively... > > Yeah they *should* but they don't in reality. The ATI Ultra Pro was the > second fasted graphics card we tested. We conducted benchmark tests on the > following systems (with the help of Wiltel of Houston): > > Gateway2000 4DX2-66V with ATI Ultra Pro VLB card (66Mhz) > Compaq with QVision (66Mhz) > Dell DGX with Jaws (50Mhz) > Epson Progression with Wingine (50Mhz) > Ecesys with Wingine (66Mhz) > NeXTStation Mono (25Mhz) > NeXTStation Color (25Mhz) > > The results are rather suprising. We used two benchmark programs: > > BenchPress 1.0 > NXBench2.0 > > Our results are in a PostScript file and can be found at: > > uhoop.uh.edu:/pub/misc/BenchMarks.compressed > > or via gopher: > > gopher.uh.edu -> Engineering Gopher -> UHOOP Archive -> misc -> > BenchMarks.compressed > Many of us who would like NS/I, but we don't currently have ability to display, or print a postscript file. If someone could take a few minutes and summarize the results, or even better type the document in, many of us would greatly appreciate it. Thanks > #/dev Markus Wenzel, University of Stuttgart > #/usr/spool/mail wenzel@rus.uni-stuttgart.de > #~/.ircrc/nick Marsu > #/etc/motd NeXTSTEP for Intel - Come on and join! > > -- > Paul S. Sears * sears@uh.edu (NeXT Mail OK) > The University of Houston * suggestions@tree.egr.uh.edu (NeXT > Engineering Computing Center * comments, complaints, questions) > NeXT System Administration * DoD#1967 '83 NightHawk 650SC > >>> SSI Diving Certification #755020059 <<< > "Programming is like sex: One mistake and you support it a lifetime." Robert C. Stiff rcs002@acad.drake.edu
From: kurhajet@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Robert Kurhajetz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: need phone number for HSD USA Message-ID: <38734@oasys.dt.navy.mil> Date: 2 Jul 93 15:53:46 GMT Distribution: na Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD Hello- Looking for info on contacting HSD about PowerScan for Black HW running NS3.0. Thanks. Bob Kurhajetz US NAVY CD NSWC Code 341 Bethesda, MD 20084 e-mail kurhajet@oasys.dt.navy.mil next-mail rk@priscilla.dt.navy.mil
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: pfkeb@kaon.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Paul F. Kunz) Subject: Re: tmpnam() vs mktemp() for CVS under NeXTSTEP In-Reply-To: blake015@mc.duke.edu's message of 21 Jun 93 19:11:05 GMT Message-ID: <PFKEB.93Jul2084726@kaon.SLAC.Stanford.EDU> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc Sender: news@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center References: <16626@news.duke.edu> Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1993 15:47:29 GMT >>>>> On 21 Jun 93 19:11:05 GMT, blake015@mc.duke.edu (Denise Blakeley) said: > Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc > Nntp-Posting-Host: galadriel.mc.duke.edu > I have installed RCS 5.6.0.1 and CVS 1.3 on our system, consisting of 3.0 > machines. I committed a small "sample" project to CVS and am able to > checkout, checkin, etc. from it fine. I then committed a larger "real" > project to it and am unable to check anything of it out--it seg faults > right away, with no warnings or error messages, nothing in the console > window. This is obviously unacceptable! > I'm told there was a recent posting about replacing tmpnam() with mktemp(), > because NeXT's tmpnam allows only up to 25 temporary filenmes and causes > CVS to choke. Could someone please fill me in on the fix? Is this the > cause of my problem? Having used CVS on NS 3.0 machines on quite a few large projects, we've not seen the problem described above. However, with NS 3.1 prerelease there's the tmpnam() problem when a certain number of the files in a project have been modified. The symptoms are that CVS spits out the source code to your terminal. I don't know if this problem was fixed or not with the final release of NS 3.0. -- Paul F. Kunz Paul_Kunz@slac.stanford.edu (NeXT mail ok) Stanford Linear Accelerator Center, Stanford University Voice: (415) 926-2884 (NeXT) Fax: (415) 926-3587
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) Subject: Re: PC Expo Message-ID: <1993Jul2.163350.21852@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: DSO, Stanford University References: <1993Jul2.150318.19023@biztech.com> Date: Fri, 2 Jul 93 16:33:50 GMT Ken Anderson writes > > NeXT DID have a booth across town at the > > Securities Industry Association trade show in > > New York during the same days (June 28-30). > > Considering that NeXT is NOT pursuing the mass > > market for now, and IS committing most of > > its marketing resources to financial services, > > this was the right choice. > > .... At PC Expo, they would have been one among > > hundreds, and to what end? > > I have to agree with Greg. NeXT will definitely > generate sales from their presence at the SIA show. > PC Expo is a VERY expensive show.. Well, I disagree. NeXTSTEP needs exposure and credibility, and having a strong, explicit presence at mainstream shows like PC Expo is an important part of that. Otherwise it'll retain its image as an expensive niche product that only a few insiders know about or use. NeXT put Andy Grove on stage at NWExpo and he told them that what was needed was volume volume volume. Clearly they weren't listening. Don't get me wrong; I'm not saying that NeXT ought to pursue the `mass market' as its first priority. Its current focus is correct. But it cannot _ignore_ the mass market. And, IMHO, it has what it needs to make significant inroads very cheaply (you only need to grab a very small proportion of the mass market to increase the installed NS seats by an order of magnitude). That would make developers happy (many more shrink-wrap sales in the `mass' market than the mcca market), users happy (more shrink-wrap apps, more attention paid by vendors to carrying NS-specific or NS-capable products, more people to send snazzy NeXTMail to), and NeXT happy ($$$). Ciao, Stefano --- Stefano Pagiola Food Research Institute, Stanford University spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged) spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
From: mmlee@athena.mit.edu (Mark M Lee) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help with NeXT Date: 2 Jul 1993 17:26:34 GMT Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology Distribution: world Message-ID: <211r4a$gca@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Just stepped into the NeXT world by purchasing an used NeXTstation Color with 16/250. I have two questions/problems with my system.... 1. I tried to hook up an ext. NEC CD (CDR-74) to the NeXTstation, but the system doesn't seem to recognize it & refuses to boot up. I am running NS 3.0 & the CD drive is multi-spin..... 2. Is there NS for alpha? Will there be one? 3. I borrowed an NeXT CD ROM drive from a friend, and I tried to run the CD Player app. I followed the instruction to setup my system; however, I don't hear any music coming out..... Thanx for your help... -mark mmlee@athena.mit.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: chris%milo@wpa.com (Chris Cleeland) Subject: Lack of Docs in Dev3.1 (was 3.1 Developer MAB!) Message-ID: <1993Jul2.020511.4590@milo.UUCP> Sender: chris@milo.UUCP Organization: Milo Designs References: <20p6ki$f6d@otter.mrj.com> Distribution: na Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1993 02:05:11 GMT In article <20p6ki$f6d@otter.mrj.com> dbbrown@otter.mrj.com (Dan Brown) writes: > I haven't seen this mentioned in news yet, so please excuse me if > this is old news. But I just got my 3.1 User and Developers tools > upgrade for my 040 cube yesterday. And too my surprise, the 3.1 > developers tools CD is MAB. :^) > Contrary to what I was led to believe a few months back saying that > the 3.0 -> 3.1 Developers Tools CD would only run on Black > Hardware. Is it just me, or was anybody else who got NS/I surprised to find out that 3.1 for Black hardware DID NOT include the programming/reference manuals? I could swear that I'd asked that question of several NeXT-related people and they'd all said yes. What's more, there's not even a discount coupon like that provided in the Evaluation package. Surely NeXT could have done better than this... Disappointed, -cj -- ------------------------------------------------------------- Chris Cleeland | Internet: chris%milo@wpa.com Consultant/NeXT Advocate | UUCP: wupost!nimno!milo!chris Milo Designs | BellNet: (314) 771-3860
From: tyfung@uclink.berkeley.edu (Tin-Yau Fung) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Can't transfer license to SoftPC Date: 2 Jul 1993 18:30:41 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Distribution: world Message-ID: <211ush$djd@agate.berkeley.edu> Hi, Well, I'm stuck with 2.0 I posted earlier about possible transfer of license and called the support line. The answer is no ... Thanks for people who reply to me.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: ganek@apollo.hp.com (Daniel E. Ganek) Subject: OCR and Presentation SW Sender: usenet@apollo.hp.com (Usenet News) Message-ID: <C9JuF0.4Gw@apollo.hp.com> Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1993 18:08:59 GMT Organization: Hewlett-Packard Corporation, Chelmsford, MA I'm looking for some inexpensive (free:-) sw to do simply OCR and also something to generate presentation slides. I looked at sonato and didn't see anything. Did I miss some? Does anyone have any recommendations? /dan ganek ganek@apollo.hp.com
From: jmd@cube.handheld.com (Jim De Arras) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Net Boot problems under 3.1?? Date: 2 Jul 1993 19:46:15 GMT Organization: Hand Held Products, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <2123a7INN5qd@clem.handheld.com> I've heard one report of netboot failing to work under 3.1 on black hardware. I currently run 3.0, and have two "diskless" (one has a swap disk) workstations that rely on netboot for thier very existance! Before I upgrade (the developer packages FINALLY arrived) I would like some feedback from any other netter's out there that have either had it fail, or succeed! Thanks, Jim -- jmd@handheld.com
From: sears@tree.egr.uh.edu (Paul S. Sears) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: [rtf] BUG FIX: Gateway2000 incompatability fix for model 4DX2-66V Date: 2 Jul 1993 23:45:10 GMT Organization: University of Houston Message-ID: <212ha6$pn1@menudo.uh.edu> Enclosed is a PostScript file that explains the simple fix that will solve the keyboard/mouse problems with NEXTSTEP and the Gateway2000 4DX2-66V. This fix involves setting a jumper on the system board. This fix has been tested and confirmed. -- Paul S. 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From: sears@tree.egr.uh.edu (Paul S. Sears) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: BUG FIX: Gateway2000 incompatability fix for model 4DX2-66V Date: 2 Jul 1993 23:45:26 GMT Organization: University of Houston Message-ID: <212ham$pps@menudo.uh.edu> (The rtf version includes a PostScript document that has a diagram of the location jumper that needs to be changed) Gateway2000 4DX2-66V Fix This the "official" fix from Gateway2000 concerning the problem with installing and running NEXTSTEP for Intel Processors version 3.1. The cause of the problem was that the PS2Mouse driver and the PS2Keyboard driver would not work with the newer versions of the BIOS that Micronics started shipping with a revised system board. Mainly it concerned the new Gateway ROM BIOS PLUS Version 0.10 GJX30-05E (but it also works for the earlier GJX30 versions). For NEXTSTEP for Intel Processors Release 3.1 to install correctly, the new Gateways V-Series systems must have the PS2 style keyboard jumper ENABLED. This jumper is not documented in the Gateway2000 Manuals as the PS2 style keyboard jumper, instead it is listed as W7 - "Reserved". Gateway ships these systems with the jumper disabled, and usually recommends leaving the jumper disabled for use with system and keyboard drivers. However, ou must change the W7 jumper to the "on" position (you will need to find a jumper to use or locate a spare one). The W7 jumper is located right next to the W40 jumper on the motherboard. See the diagram below. Micronics (Motherboard OEM for Gateway) is currently running NEXTSTEP on a new Gateway with the W7 jumper changed. This setup has worked with both serial and bus mice. NeXT's Quality Assurance group is testing this fix now. [This has been tested and verified at the University of Houston with the GJX30-01D verion of the BIOS.] **** The PS2Mouse driver must be loaded for this to work. If [and only if!!] you followed my earlier installation notes, you were told to remove the PS2Mouse driver from the file /usr/Devices/System.config/Instance0.table which was in the line "Boot Drivers". A simple way to do this is to run the Configure.app located in /NextApps and click on "save". The configure.app will automatically add the PS2Mouse driver to the Instance0.table file. Powerdown, then add the jumper and reboot. No need to mess with the turbo switch or anything, it should come up in NEXTSTEP automatically. To quickly verify if your keyboard will work, check if the NUM-Lock LED is off. If it is not, then your keyboard WILL NOT work. The W7 jumper is located next to the first LocalBus slot near the right-back end of the system board. This diagram is for the Desktop configuration only. The jumper may be located in a different location if you have a tower case. -- Paul S. Sears * sears@uh.edu (NeXT Mail OK) The University of Houston * suggestions@tree.egr.uh.edu (NeXT Engineering Computing Center * comments, complaints, questions) NeXT System Administration * DoD#1967 '83 NightHawk 650SC >>> SSI Diving Certification #755020059 <<< "Programming is like sex: One mistake and you support it a lifetime."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: ddj+@cs.cmu.edu (Doug DeJulio) Subject: Re: NS/FIP netboot? Message-ID: <C9KDBM.HGz.2@cs.cmu.edu> Sender: news@cs.cmu.edu (Usenet News System) Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon References: <1993Jun30.121016.4444@uunet!cbmvax!xmws!kripalu> <1993Jul1.155706.3448@imani.cam.org> Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1993 00:57:22 GMT In article <1993Jul1.155706.3448@imani.cam.org> nico@imani.cam.org (Nicolas Dore) writes: >What if you have bought 1 (licence, whatever...) copy of Mesa? (no gratuitous >plug here. I'm just trying to get David Pollak to clear this out for all of us >from his law-degree throne. 8^) I mayself did 3 years of law school, but I >didn't stick around for the degree) Could you have 20 machines running it over >the net simultaneously? Even in -NXHost mode (on a single machine, however >impractical that might be)? > >I think not! Really? I'll have to check the wording of the Mesa license. My default assumption would be that as long all the copies of the program were running on ONE machine's CPU, and you had a license for that machine, everything is kosher. (Note that this is really an academic argument for me, as for the forseeable future I've only got one NeXTstep-capable machine on my home net, and -NXHost over SLIP is a dog.) -- Doug DeJulio ddj+@cmu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: kent@infoserv.com Subject: Re: Help with NeXT Message-ID: <C9KtCx.M1@infoserv.com> Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard) Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting References: <211r4a$gca@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1993 06:43:45 GMT In article <211r4a$gca@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> mmlee@athena.mit.edu (Mark M Lee) writes: #2. Is there NS for alpha? Will there be one? No. Ask DEC to ask NeXT to do a port. # #3. I borrowed an NeXT CD ROM drive from a friend, and I tried to run #the CD Player app. I followed the instruction to setup my system; #however, I don't hear any music coming out..... Did you connect speakers to the CD? You don't get the sound from the NeXT. CD_Player.app is just a controller for a CD-ROM drive. Kent -- /* K.L. Shephard Consulting is my company. Infoserv only delivers my mail. */ /* Please direct mail to kent@infoserv.com other adresses may not work. */
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: nico@imani.cam.org (Nicolas Dore) Subject: Re: NS/FIP netboot? Message-ID: <1993Jul3.145555.3439@imani.cam.org> Sender: nico@imani.cam.org References: <C9KDBM.HGz.2@cs.cmu.edu> Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1993 14:55:55 GMT In article <C9KDBM.HGz.2@cs.cmu.edu> ddj+@cs.cmu.edu (Doug DeJulio) writes: > In article <1993Jul1.155706.3448@imani.cam.org> nico@imani.cam.org (Nicolas Dore) writes: > >What if you have bought 1 (licence, whatever...) copy of Mesa? (no > >plug here. I'm just trying to get David Pollak to clear this out for all of > >us from his law-degree throne. 8^) I mayself did 3 years of law school, but > >I didn't stick around for the degree) Could you have 20 machines running it > >over the net simultaneously? Even in -NXHost mode (on a single machine, > > however impractical that might be)? > > > >I think not! > > Really? I'll have to check the wording of the Mesa license. My > default assumption would be that as long all the copies of the program > were running on ONE machine's CPU, and you had a license for that > machine, everything is kosher. Let's think about this. The licence indicates what you _can_ do, not what is forbidden. Technically, the fact that you need to copy the program in memory might be considered by some computer-illiterate judge to be unallowed copying (Big, I know, but I'm trying to make a point.). Licences have just started allowing people to have copies of the soft on more than one machine, as long as only one is used at any given time (i.e. home and work machine, or desk and portable units, etc...). They can even forbid you from transferring it. NS/i's licence would need to state that you can run more than one computer from one copy (licence). Mesa would need to, too. Otherwise, this is obviously contrary to the spirit, if not the letter of the licence. Software licences are restrictive by nature, and are interpreted that way (i.e. to protect the copyright holder's interest [please no FSF flame. I'm stating this, not saying it's good]). By netbooting more than one machine off a single licence, you'd be as illegal as if you'd directly copied it on every hard drive it's running on over the net. The 3.0 Moto licence states "licence too use the NeXTSTEP software on only one computer at a time" (p. 53), which seems to adress this very issue directly. The NS/i licence should have a similar clause, if not an exact reproduction. Netbooting should be seen as a way of reducing hardware demands, not software. Just like plain networking... As far as running more than one copy of soft on the same machine, unless it is expressly allowed, no can't do... Check the licence, it should state something like "NeXT grants you a personal, non-exclusive [others can use it as much as you are allowed to, under your control. My comment] licence to use the NeXT...". Applied to corporations, this would grant individuals the right to use the soft, not a complete entreprise. Others could come over to your machine and un it there, or even run it from theirs over the net, but they couldn't do so if you were already running it. In addition, the "one computer" clause above could be applied by saying that the app, while not executing on the local machine but on a remote host, has parts (i.e. visual code) being used on your machine (i.e. what is sent the windowserver on your machine to have it display there), therefore falling under it's scope. Also, the act of copying the interface of the app on your screen without having a licence might in itself be enough (i.e. not a la Apple vs MS kind of interface suit, but in the plain old "you copied my interface", and in this case it being totally similar...). Hope this clears it for everyone. Don't hesitate to flame. I like it hot! ;8^/ BTW This is _NOT_ legal advice, just answers to questions. Don't hold me responsible for _anything_ that happens in any way related to it. Also, the fact that I'm adding this disclaimer is _NOT_ admission that it should have been included in previous posts, but simply the express stating of the implied obvious. Ciao > (Note that this is really an academic argument for me, as for the > forseeable future I've only got one NeXTstep-capable machine on my > home net, and -NXHost over SLIP is a dog.) > -- > Doug DeJulio > ddj+@cmu.edu -- Nicolas Dore nico@imani.cam.org - - - - - - - - - CAREFUL! POLITICAL COMMENT ZONE!! - - - - - - - - - > "If I can't dance, I don't want to be in your revolution!" < > Emma Goldman (to Vladimir Ilitch Oulianov [Lenin], 1917) <
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: gmecchia@hop.Princeton.EDU () Subject: NeXTSTEP 486 mentioned in Futures magazine Message-ID: <1993Jul3.214039.29887@Princeton.EDU> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1993 21:40:39 GMT Hi, "Futures" magazine, a publication for futures traders, just published a special issue: "1993 Guide to Computerized Trading". In its two page introduction editorial, it provides an overview of hardware and software. In a crescendo, it describes the different Intel family of microprocessors, DOS 6.0, Windows, Windows NT, OS/2, and lastly, NeXTSTEP 486. Excerpts follow: "NeXTSTEP for the rest of us. Another contender for the PC desktop operating system market is NeXTSTEP 486, also to be released this summer. NeXT Computer announced earlier this year it was abandoning the computer hardware business and would concentrate on selling software, where its real expertise lies. NeXTSTEP version 3.0 is a mature UNIX-based operating system that currently runs on NeXT's own workstation hardware. The 486 version promises to bring the powerful operating system to PC users. NeXTSTEP is object oriented, which means programmers can use software code written, tested and debugged by others rather than re-inventing the same wheel over and over again, thus reducing the time it takes to develop a program from scratch. In squaring off against operating system giant Microsoft, NeXT is making a bet-the-company gamble that the benefits offered by its integrated object-oriented environment will overcome the massive momentum DOS-Windows currently enjoys. Indeed, several large corporations have signed on. Also, the operating system is a hit with traders because they can develop proprietary trading programs much more quickly than with other computers (see "Rebel with a Cause: Steve Jobs' NeXT Challenge," Futures, October 199 2)." Alexis Rzewski gmecchia@princeton.edu
From: h0l847a@tamsun.tamu.edu (Hoseong La) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <21510u$ebg@tamsun.tamu.edu> Control: cancel <21510u$ebg@tamsun.tamu.edu> Date: 3 Jul 1993 19:51:24 -0500 Organization: tamu Distribution: world Message-ID: <2159ic$o80@tamsun.tamu.edu> <21510u$ebg@tamsun.tamu.edu> was cancelled from within trn.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: oorient@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Object Oriented) Subject: is TECOR afloat? Message-ID: <oorient.741780535@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU> Sender: news@ucc.su.OZ.AU Organization: Sydney University Computing Service, Sydney, NSW, Australia Date: Sun, 4 Jul 1993 10:08:55 GMT e-mailed info@tecor.com and the mail bounced. Are they still in business? Thanks Piotr Palacz
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: vhs@qb.rhein-main.de (Volker Herminghaus-Shirai) Subject: Re: PRESS RELEASE: WordPerfect Corporation Releases WordPerfect for NEXTSTEP Date: Sun, 4 Jul 93 07:58:54 GMT Message-ID: <1993Jul4.075854.16575@qb.rhein-main.de> References: <1993Jul3.003525.10010@digifix.com> Sender: vhs@qb.rhein-main.de (Volker Herminghaus-Shirai) In article <1993Jul3.003525.10010@digifix.com> Conrad_Geiger@NeXT.COM (Conrad Geiger) writes: > FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE > > WORDPERFECT CORPORATION > > Contact: Paul D. Eddington > (801) 228-5006 > Fax: (801) 228-5077 > > > WORDPERFECT CORPORATION RELEASES WORDPERFECT FOR NEXTSTEP [...] > The program disks include multiple File Allocation Tables ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > (FAT) allowing WordPerfect for NEXTSTEP to run on NEXTSTEP for ^^^^^ > Motorola-based proprietary machines as well as Intel-based 486 and > Pentium personal computers. NEXTSTEP for Intel was introduced last > month at NeXTWORLD EXPO in San Francisco. [...] They *do* come from the PC. That's FAT BINARIES, boys! Nothing to do with Billie-Babies File Allocation Table stuff. Volker -- Volker Herminghaus-Shirai (vhs@qb.rhein-main.de) Computer industry: Industry in which the number of units sold of any given product is inversely proportional to its technical excellence. See also: MS-DOS, MS-Windows, PC, X, QWERTY, 80x86, TrueType
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: rice@imag.fr (Jonathan Rice) Subject: NSFIP on Compudyne or ZEOS Systems? Message-ID: <C9nDtv.64A@imag.fr> Organization: IMAG Institute, University of Grenoble, France Date: Sun, 4 Jul 1993 16:01:07 GMT Would anyone have any advice on the suitability of NSFIP for 486DX systems from Compudyne or Zeos? Has anyone installed it on such systems yet? Two specific questions I'm interested in: 1. How compatible are the video cards included on these manufacturers' standard systems? The Zeos ad I have here talks of their local bus "Viper" card, while Compudyne is very vague about their card, not specifying its architecture or max colours. 2. Zeos offer optional on-board SCSI for $49, in the shape of an Adaptec SCSI chip. Is this likely to work with NS? I seem to remember some discussion here recently of some other machine whose on-boad SCSI would not work (yet). Thanks, -- Jonathan o----------------------------o------------------------o | Jonathan Rice | Laboratoire ARTEMIS | o----------------------------o Institut IMAG | | Email: rice@dingo.imag.fr | B.P. 53 | | Phone: (33) 76 63 58 80 | 38041 GRENOBLE Cedex 9 | | Fax: (33) 76 63 84 23 | FRANCE | o----------------------------o------------------------o -- o----------------------------o------------------------o | Jonathan Rice | Laboratoire ARTEMIS | o----------------------------o Institut IMAG | | Email: rice@imag.fr | B.P. 53 |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: hketola@agsm.ucla.edu (Heikki Ketola) Subject: Re: is TECOR afloat? Message-ID: <hketola.741802760@uclagsm> References: <oorient.741780535@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU> Date: 4 Jul 93 09:20:43 PDT oorient@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Object Oriented) writes: > e-mailed info@tecor.com and the mail bounced. >Are they still in business? >Thanks >Piotr Palacz TECOR is out if business, unfortunately. If TECOR owes you money, I can provide you with the name of the lawyer handling TECOR's case. Heikki Ketola hketola@sms-usa.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: emarinos@marcon.ka.sub.org (Evstathios Marinos) Subject: Combi-boards ( EISA + VLB) Does they work with NS FIP 3.1? Message-ID: <1993Jul4.170908.5082@marcon.ka.sub.org> Sender: emarinos@marcon.ka.sub.org (Evstathios Marinos) Organization: Marinos EDV - Consulting Date: Sun, 4 Jul 1993 17:09:08 GMT Hi folks, for my own PC I want to use an EISA + VLB motherboard to get maximum performance. I've heard a lot about the MICRONICS EISA + VLB motherboard. Now I have one question: DOES IT REALLY WORK ? I tested another combi board and I had the problem that NS didn't recognize the VLB ATI Ultra Pro. When running with an ATI Ultra Pro EISA version no problems occured, but this was in PR2. What BIOS version is needed to run the MOCRONICS combi board without problems? Thank You for your help Stathis -- Marinos EDV - Consulting | NEXTSTEP Software and Consulting Services Evstathios Marinos | Phone : +49 721 37 71 78 Gartenstr. 2 | Fax : +49 721 37 71 79 76133 Karlsruhe (GERMANY) | E-Mail: emarinos@marcon.ka.sub.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: fermat@fermat.dartmouth.edu (Michael Glenn) Subject: BoinkOut sounds in 3.1 (Black) Message-ID: <C9nyw5.B88@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> Sender: news@dartvax.dartmouth.edu (The News Manager) Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH Date: Sun, 4 Jul 1993 23:36:04 GMT Don't think I heard this mentioned yet. They moved the .snd files out of the binary for 3.1. Only problem is, the two sound files "bricks.snd" and "magic.snd" are messed up. I could not even inspect them with any sound editing tool. My fix: Remove 3.1 version, and bring back 3.0 version. :) Michael
From: winch@stein.u.washington.edu (John Winchester) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Help building Lemacs under NS 2.1? Keywords: lemacs Message-ID: <215gae$idm@news.u.washington.edu> Date: 4 Jul 93 02:46:38 GMT Article-I.D.: news.215gae$idm Organization: University of Washington, Seattle I would greatly appreciate it if anybody who has successfully built and installed Lemacs 19.6 (or any version for that matter) would email me. I'm encountering some difficulties. Thanks for your time, John Winchester winch@geophys.washington.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: cajho@uno.edu Subject: ATI VL-BUS GUPro Message-ID: <1993Jul5.051255.27278@cs.uno.edu> Sender: news@cs.uno.edu Organization: University of New Orleans Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1993 05:12:55 GMT Is there anyone out there running NS/FIP 3.1 with this ATI card in 16-bit color? Is it fast, non-flaky? Would you recommend? If so, where could I get one cheap? Thanks. -- Craig Johnston | Q: How do you stop Bill Gates from drowning? cajho@uno.edu | A: Shoot him.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: rfi@jeans.fokus.gmd.de (Robert Fischer) Subject: Re: Open/Save panels Message-ID: <1993Jul5.074244.27734@fokus.gmd.de> Sender: news@fokus.gmd.de (News system) Organization: GMD-Fokus Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1993 07:42:44 GMT In comp.sys.next.misc article <209qcm$qif@nic.lth.se> you wrote: > > I have a small problem: All my open and save panels suddenly have only > one column in their browser -- which makes navigating through the file > system kinda not as easy as I'd like it to be ... I can't find any > dwrites that change the behaviour, and I don't remember what I did > that made them turn this way -- and resizing doesn't help either (not > even if I hold down any combination of modifier keys while I do so) > .... anyone help me, please ??? :-) > > best regards, and thanx in advance > > // Christian brunschen To remember: holding down ALTERNATE while resizing the panel keeps the number of rows in the browser. Try this: - Hold ALTERNATE - Resize panel to small size - Release ALTERNATE - Resize panel should increase number of rows Robert ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Robert Fischer @ GMD-Fokus -------- __o ------- _`\<,_ fischer@fokus.gmd.de ------- (*)/ (*) ## NeXT-Mail welcome ## ------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk (Scott A. McIntyre) Subject: Merchandise Message-ID: <scott.741866409@shrug> Organization: University of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK, NE1 7RU Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1993 10:00:09 GMT I really like the look of the Black jacket that is in the 3.1 merchandise brochure...if anyone has one, or can tell me more about it, like what it feels like (does it feel like a "windbreaker" that sort of instant water repelling nylon, or is it softer?) I'd appreciate it. What a geek i am.... Scott -- EMAIL: S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk OR scott@shrug.dur.ac.uk (NeXTmail) SNAIL: Pyschment of Departology, University of Durham, Durham, DH1 3LE "Did you know that the computer invented itself?" - SNL
From: avery@neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Avery Wang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Motorola 3.1 upgrades -- what is happening? Date: 5 Jul 1993 11:11:14 GMT Organization: Ruhr-Universitaet Bochum, Rechenzentrum Message-ID: <21928i$kp4@rubb.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> Hi- I am out of the country this summer and haven't heard from NeXT regarding my 3.1 upgrade. I called in before the NW Expo to request upgrade information for 3.1. Back then the upgrade price was $99 for 3.0 owners. I guess my move to Europe on June 10th screwed them up. Is there an email address that I can reach them at to ask about how to follow up on this? I've also heard that the price of the upgrade has risen. What is the upgrade price now? And is there an academic price for the Motorola version of 3.1? Has 3.1/Motorola started shipping yet? These are questions that I guess have been asked, but my news server only archives a few days worth. Thanks in advance, Avery Wang Institut fuer Neuroinformatik (until September 1993, then back) Ruhr-Universitaet Bochum (to Stanford) ND 03/32, Postfach 10 21 48 44780 Bochum Germany Tel: +49-234-700-7994 (office) -7094-210 (Fax) email: avery@ccrma.stanford.edu avery@neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de
From: avery@neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Avery Wang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Lower price (Re: 32/400 color NeXTStation for sale in Europe) Date: 5 Jul 1993 11:19:39 GMT Organization: Ruhr-Universitaet Bochum, Rechenzentrum Message-ID: <2192ob$l9s@rubb.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> I'm offering a lower suggested price of 7000DM for the machine I posted before. I would be happy to see some reasonable offers > I've arrived in Germany with my color NeXT and am looking to sell it. It is > used, in great shape, and even has some new parts (with some warranty left) > because of some swapping of equipment with my other NeXT. (I left my other > NeXT back in California.) I don't really need to own two NeXTs so I'm > selling this one.: > 25MHz 68040, (+ DSP, etc) > 32MB RAM, > 406MB internal HD, > 17" color monitor, > Sound Box, cables, etc. > manuals > assorted software (including Mathematica 2.0 license). > > 7500DM or best reasonable offer (make an offer!). If anyone in Europe is interested, please contact me at: Avery Wang Institut fuer Neuroinformatik (until September 1993, then back) Ruhr-Universitaet Bochum (to Stanford) ND 03/32, Postfach 10 21 48 44780 Bochum Germany Tel: +49-234-700-7994 (office) -7094-210 (Fax) email: avery@ccrma.stanford.edu avery@neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: lange@lanai.cs.ucla.edu (Trent Lange) Subject: Colorstation display speed Message-ID: <1993Jul5.100906.5922@cs.ucla.edu> Sender: usenet@cs.ucla.edu (Mr Usenet) Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department Date: Mon, 5 Jul 93 10:09:06 GMT There have been a couple postings reporting benchmark results that show that the Colorstations' graphics performance is significantly slower than normal NeXTStations, which makes sense, since they have that many more bits per pixel to push around. But what about graphics performance for Colorstations in applications that don't use color? Is text display in Terminal, for instance, slower on a Colorstation than on the greyscale machines? Or does each application/window only use as many bits as needed, allowing its graphics display to be as fast as on the non-Colorstations? Or is there a way to make it do so? Any answers or experiences would be appreciated. I'm considering buying a Colorstation, but want to make sure my normal non-color work isn't slowed. Thanks, - Trent Lange
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: fyr@ubszh.net.ch Subject: Re: Austrian VAD Content-Type: text/plain Message-ID: <fyr.93Jul5131055@nol512> Sender: usenet@ubszh.net.ch (news) Organization: Union Bank of Switzerland References: <1993Jul1.082452.5681@ghost.dsi.unimi.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1993 12:10:55 GMT > Hi all, > I'd really need to know the address (email, or phone number) of the Austrian > Distributor. I thing there's a VAD called "Hard & Soft", but from here is really > hard to obtain his address ... > > Thank you in advance > Michele > > As I know there are just three official VAS's in Europe at the moment: Switzerland: ANDES Germany: Computer2000 and d'Art Roger --- Union Bank of Switzerland Roger P. Frey LHIS/LHDD-FYR Flurstrasse 68 CH-8048 Zurich Switzerland phone: +41 1 236 60 52 fax: +41 1 236 86 08 RFC822: fyr@ubszh.net.ch (NeXT-Mail ok) X.400: roger.frey@zh001.ubs.ubs.arcom.ch
From: dpp@athena.com (David Pollak) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: What programs are available... Date: 5 Jul 1993 15:51:44 GMT Organization: Athena Design, Inc. Distribution: usa Message-ID: <219img$kk1@hermes.athena.com> References: <218feo$5ep@news.cerf.net> In article <218feo$5ep@news.cerf.net> kehoe@fortuity.sf.ca.us (Daniel Miles Kehoe) writes: > > Athena Design, Inc. > Mesa--A straightforward spreadsheet in the Lotus 1-2-3 tradition. It > handles 1-2-3 and Excel files, including all formulas, and reads most > 1-2-3 macros but won't let you create your own. There's no Undo key, but > there are some nifty shortcuts you won't find in 1-2-3 or Microsoft Excel. > Also connects to SQL databases. Rated 3.5 cubes in NeXTWORLD (Feb/Mar > 1993). [NC $395] > Mesa Sunrise--A junior version of Mesa, without features such as SQL > access. Demos available from archives at cs.orst.edu, > ftp.cica.indiana.edu, and athena.com. > Boston, MA > 617-734-6372 > info@athena.com > Just to clear up some problems in the above description of Mesa: While Mesa is easy to use, especially for those accustomed to Excel or 1-2-3, it is not a basic product. With the exception of Undo, it has every feature available on every traditional spreadsheet available for NEXTSTEP. It is has the richest set of features available on any NEXTSTEP spreadsheet. Mesa reads all 1-2-3 macros, and executes most of them. Mesa will allow you to create your own 1-2-3 macros (and it always has!). Mesa's 1-2-3 macro capabilities are complete, not simply limited to the 10% of macro commands accessible via bracket macro statements. Mesa also has a powerful scripting language (MScript) which allows the users to program Mesa to perform many functions. One of our users has built an entire double-entry accounting system in Mesa using MScript. Mesa is the only NEXTSTEP spreadsheet that ships with an Object Library (MOLI Mesa Object Library Interface). This allows custom apps to include complete spreadsheet functionality with little work on the part of the programmer. Mesa even has palletized spreadsheet and graph objects. Third party applications (including TimeScape and DBInspector) take advantage of MOLI to enhance the performance and functionality of these applications. In addition, mission critical custom applications (including apps built by Systemhouse's Object Technology Center) are using MOLI to speed development and increase functionality. Mesa also supports AddIn Object Modules that allow custom programmers to add functionality to Mesa. Examples of AddIn Object Modules include: real time stock feeds (Mesa is the ONLY NEXTSTEP spreadsheet that can handle real time stock feeds), data feeds from telephone switching equipment, medical instrument monitoring and reporting, an interface to Mathematica to facilitate the performance of complex mathematics on spreadsheet data, and much more. Mesa is a well-behaved NEXTSTEP application supporting drag and drop color, patterns and fonts. Mesa accepts data dragged and dropped from Stone Design's DataPhile. Mesa also supports drag and drop menu commands, SQL queries, scripts, macros, reports, etc. Mesa has a visual report builder that is the most powerful and flexible of any available for any spreadsheet in the world. In addition, while other spreadsheets are limited to one pre-defined report per spreadsheet, Mesa supports an unlimited number of named reports in each spreadsheet. Mesa is also the fastest NEXTSTEP spreadsheet. On the NeXTWORLD spreadsheet benchmark, Mesa is 30 times faster than Improv and 4 times faster than a beta of Solution. Mesa is 100 times faster than Questor and users remark that Mesa blows WingZ away in terms of performance. As you can see, Mesa is feature-rich. The version of Mesa refered to in the above piece is the first version of Mesa. We released Mesa 1.5 at Expo. The only spreadsheet in the world that is arguably more powerful or feature-rich than Mesa is Microsoft Excel. In terms of its SQL access capabilities and its Object interfaces (MOLI and AddIn Object Modules), Mesa is the most powerful spreadsheet in the world on any platform. Mesa is also the best selling NEXTSTEP spreadsheet. Most of the largest NEXTSTEP customers are using Mesa. Athena Design is committed to NEXTSTEP. We demonstrated this by being the first commercially shipping NEXTSTEP/Intel product. We have been upgrading Mesa continually. Mesa comes with one year of free upgrades, so even our first customers are using the latest version of Mesa with no upgrade costs. Athena Design backs Mesa with unlimited technical support (for commercial customers only) via both telephone and e-mail. Our tech support team has been called the best in the business (one of the Best of Breed Community Service award winners told me that he was going to make sure that all his other software vendors gave the same high quality level of technical support as Athena Design does.) It's no wonder that Athena Design won the Best of Breed award for Mesa. We have the best spreadsheet product available and we back it with top quality technical support. We also care about folks in education by offering an 80% discount on Mesa to educational customers. Thanks. David
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: Boris <Boris@Dylan.demon.co.uk> Subject: HELP! NEED HELP - WONT BOOT Message-ID: <C9p958.x5@demon.co.uk> Sender: news@demon.co.uk Organization: BorMak Tech (Software consultants & Network Specialists) Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1993 16:15:06 GMT Hiya Folks, I need YOUR help. We just got hold of a Next Cube but we can't get it to work.(thats why it was given to us!) As far as we know, the machine is basically okay inside, just we need the boot disks!(simple enough) The machine specs are as follows; Model N1000 Cude System Release 1.0 System Software Mach/Unix It has one of them natty likkle optical drives in it, for booting I guess. The machine worked once a few months ago but died for no apparent reason. It was sitting in a store room for 3 years, brought into the world thorgh idle curiosity, died, shelved, scrapped (redirected to yours truly). It would be a sin to let the machine rot. PLEASE, SOMEBODY, HELP ME TO GET IT TO WORK! ANY HELP/HINTS/POINTERS(HANDLES?)>???? Where do I get system software? Can I get copies...send them to me...I'll pay charges obviously. HELP! HELP HELP HELP HELP! Lots of Peace, Love and Good Happiness Stuff Boris XXXxxxXXX
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: gordie@cyclesoft.com (Gordie Freedman) Subject: Re: BoinkOut sounds in 3.1 (Black) Message-ID: <1993Jul5.190615.5307@netcom.com> Sender: gordie@netcom.com Organization: Cyclesoft Media Works References: <C9nyw5.B88@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1993 19:06:15 GMT In article <C9nyw5.B88@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> fermat@fermat.dartmouth.edu (Michael Glenn) writes: > > Don't think I heard this mentioned yet. > > They moved the .snd files out of the binary for 3.1. Only problem is, the > two sound files "bricks.snd" and "magic.snd" are messed up. I could not > even inspect them with any sound editing tool. > > My fix: Remove 3.1 version, and bring back 3.0 version. :) > > Michael They are fine on my machine (NSC with 3.1) - I was able to double click on the .snd files and get Sound.app and play the sounds. (I also have the full 3.1 developer installed.) -- >>> Gordie Freedman -> gordie@cyclesoft.com NeXTMail Yes! >>> Thou shalt not inline functions more complicated than 20
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: tgall@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Tom Gall) Subject: Re: Combi-boards ( EISA + VLB) Does they work with NS FIP 3.1? Sender: news@rchland.ibm.com Message-ID: <1993Jul05.204754.27803@rchland.ibm.com> Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1993 20:47:54 GMT Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM References: <1993Jul4.170908.5082@marcon.ka.sub.org> Organization: IBM Rochester In article <1993Jul4.170908.5082@marcon.ka.sub.org>, emarinos@marcon.ka.sub.org (Evstathios Marinos) writes: |> Hi folks, |> |> for my own PC I want to use an EISA + VLB motherboard to get maximum |> performance. I've heard a lot about the MICRONICS EISA + VLB motherboard. |> |> Now I have one question: DOES IT REALLY WORK ? Don't know about the Micronics one, but I have an AIR EISA, VLB motherboard, (just picked it up Friday) and the system works just great. (AMI 1.1 EISA BIOS) Best thing you can do is, simply get the dealer to allow you to do a test install. The little company I bought my system let me do this. They were very understanding, as I explained to them they were dealing with NeXTSTEP, and not just DOS/Windows.... |> |> I tested another combi board and I had the problem that NS didn't recognize the |> VLB ATI Ultra Pro. When running with an ATI Ultra Pro EISA version no problems |> occured, but this was in PR2. |> Hmmmmm.... I don't have my ATI VLB card yet. Should be here by the end of the week. Till then, I'm running a Tseng4000 Diamond Speedstar. I'll let you know how it works out... |> Thank You for your help |> |> Stathis |> -- |> Marinos EDV - Consulting | NEXTSTEP Software and Consulting Services |> Evstathios Marinos | Phone : +49 721 37 71 78 |> Gartenstr. 2 | Fax : +49 721 37 71 79 |> 76133 Karlsruhe (GERMANY) | E-Mail: emarinos@marcon.ka.sub.org -- tgall@rchvmw2.vnet.ibm.com (work -- NeXTMail NOT ok) gypsy!servo@csn.org (home -- NeXTMail ok) _________________________________________________________________________ |o|Tom Gall "Where's the ka-boom? There was supposed |o| |o|Dept 45 N to be an earth shattering ka-boom!" |o| |o|Performance Tools III -- Marvin Martian ____ |o| |o|006-2 / B209 /\___\ |o| |o|IBM Rochester 3-4558 #include<std.disclaimer.h> \/___/ |o|
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: harit@kripalu.com Subject: Re: Colorstation display speed Message-ID: <1993Jul5.160936.9810@uunet!cbmvax!xmws!kripalu> Sender: harit@uunet!cbmvax!xmws!kripalu Organization: Kripalu Center References: <1993Jul5.100906.5922@cs.ucla.edu> Date: Mon, 5 Jul 93 16:09:36 GMT In article <1993Jul5.100906.5922@cs.ucla.edu> lange@lanai.cs.ucla.edu (Trent Lange) writes: > There have been a couple postings reporting benchmark results that show > that the Colorstations' graphics performance is significantly slower than > normal NeXTStations, which makes sense, since they have that many more > bits per pixel to push around. > > But what about graphics performance for Colorstations in applications that > don't use color? Is text display in Terminal, for instance, slower on a > Colorstation than on the greyscale machines? Or does each application/window > only use as many bits as needed, allowing its graphics display to be as > fast as on the non-Colorstations? Or is there a way to make it do so? > > Any answers or experiences would be appreciated. I'm considering buying a > Colorstation, but want to make sure my normal non-color work isn't slowed. > > Thanks, > > - Trent Lange Windows do only use as much depth as needed. -- Michael Allen Latta Kripalu Center harit@kripalu.com (413)448-3288
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: michi@cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Michele Giardini) Subject: Re: Austrian VAD Keywords: European VAD References: <fyr.93Jul5131055@nol512> Sender: news-mail@ghost.dsi.unimi.it (News mail user) Organization: Computer Science Dep. - Milan University Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1993 08:09:30 GMT Message-ID: <1993Jul6.080930.5039@ghost.dsi.unimi.it> fyr@ubszh.net.ch writes > As I know there are just three official VAS's in Europe at the moment: > Switzerland: ANDES > Germany: Computer2000 and d'Art Thank to those who have responded ... To Roger: I don't really know if Hard&Soft is a VAD, but there's a VAD in Italy, Intersoft, as well as in France (I don't remember the name). I think there should be one VAD in almost every European country. Could someone post a complete list of the European VADs (Conrad ???) ?? It could be useful. Ciao Michele > Roger > > > --- > Union Bank of Switzerland > Roger P. Frey > LHIS/LHDD-FYR > Flurstrasse 68 > CH-8048 Zurich > Switzerland > phone: +41 1 236 60 52 > fax: +41 1 236 86 08 > RFC822: fyr@ubszh.net.ch (NeXT-Mail ok) > X.400: roger.frey@zh001.ubs.ubs.arcom.ch -- Giardini Michele - So here I am once more (Marillion) - Computer Science Department State University of Milan - Coordinator of NeXT2You (The Italian NeXT User Group) Via Comelico 39/41 - 20135 Milano Tel. +39 2 55006385 Fax +39 2 55006373 Email: michi@cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (NeXT mail welcome)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: kbacon@austin.onu.edu (C0d3 M0n$t3r) Subject: Re: Combi-boards ( EISA + VLB) Does they work with NS FIP 3.1? Sender: usenet@austin.onu.edu (Network News owner) Message-ID: <1993Jul6.172312.21128@austin.onu.edu> Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1993 17:23:12 GMT References: <1993Jul4.170908.5082@marcon.ka.sub.org> Organization: Ohio Northern University Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Evstathios Marinos (emarinos@marcon.ka.sub.org) wrote: : Hi folks, : for my own PC I want to use an EISA + VLB motherboard to get maximum : performance. I've heard a lot about the MICRONICS EISA + VLB motherboard. : Now I have one question: DOES IT REALLY WORK ? I have a MINI-NICE EISA + VLB motherboard running w/the ATI Ultra Pro VLB version, and have had no problems other then accessing the floppies, but that is another story...:) If you need details of the board, e-mail. Kyle C. Bacon kbacon@gauss.onu.edu (NeXTMail accepted) : Stathis : -- : Marinos EDV - Consulting | NEXTSTEP Software and Consulting Services : Evstathios Marinos | Phone : +49 721 37 71 78 : Gartenstr. 2 | Fax : +49 721 37 71 79 : 76133 Karlsruhe (GERMANY) | E-Mail: emarinos@marcon.ka.sub.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: eystein@smyril.fi.uib.no (Eystein Dugstad) Subject: Is there a list of all software that run or will run on NEXTSTEP for INTEL? Message-ID: <1993Jul6.183231.12393@alf.uib.no> Sender: usenet@alf.uib.no (Bergen University Newsaccount) Organization: University of Bergen, Norway Date: Tue, 6 Jul 93 18:32:31 GMT Is there a list of all software that run or will run on NEXTSTEP for INTEL? If yes, the list should be posted in c.s.n.announce. Eystein Dugstad University of Bergen, Norway
From: warrior@pindar.ccs.itd.umich.edu (Charles M. Dudley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: FYI Date: 6 Jul 1993 20:36:33 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Message-ID: <21cnoh$3pt@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> Keywords: NeXT ******************************************************************* ******************************************************************* ******************************************************************* Michigan NeXT Users' Group meeting this Thursday, 8 July, at 6:00 pm in the Tap Room of the Michigan Union. Come one, come all. Topics: IFS support for NeXT's, Future placement of NeXT boxes, Question and Answer, Agenda for August and September meetings. ******************************************************************* ******************************************************************* ******************************************************************* -- NewsGrazer, a NeXTstep(tm) news reader, posting -- M>UQR=&8P7&%N<VE[7&9O;G1T8FQ<9C!<9FUO9&5R;B!#;W5R:65R.WT*7&UA M<F=L,3(P"EQM87)G<C$R,`I[7&-O;&]R=&)L7')E9#!<9W)E96XP7&)L=64P M.WT*7'!A<F1<='@Q,30P7'1X,C,P,%QT>#,T-#!<='@T-C`P7'1X-3<V,%QT M>#8Y,#!<='@X,#8P7'1X.3(P,%QT>#$P,S8P7'1X,3$U,C!<9C!<8C!<:3!< M=6PP7&9S,C1<9F,P("HJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ M*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BI<"BHJ*BHJ*BHJ M*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ M*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BI<"BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ M*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BI<"EP*36EC M:&EG86X@3F585"!5<V5R<R<@1W)O=7`@;65E=&EN9R!T:&ES(%1H=7)S9&%Y M+"`X($IU;'DL7`IA="`V.C`P('!M(&EN('1H92!487`@4F]O;2!O9B!T:&4@ M36EC:&EG86X@56YI;VXN("!#;VUE(&]N92P@8V]M92!A;&PN7`I4;W!I8W,Z M($E&4R!S=7!P;W)T(&9O<B!.95A4)W,L($9U='5R92!P;&%C96UE;G0@;V8@ M3F585"!B;WAE<RQ<"B`@("`@("`@475E<W1I;VX@86YD($%N<W=E<BP@06=E M;F1A(&9O<B!!=6=U<W0@86YD(%-E<'1E;6)E<B!M965T:6YG<RY<"EP**BHJ M*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ M*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*EP**BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ M*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*EP* M*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ ;*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*EP*"GT* `
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: ph@pencom.com (Patrick Hester) Subject: Got any Microphone scripts? Message-ID: <1993Jul06.181146.1125@pencom.com> Sender: usenet@pencom.com (News system) Organization: Pencom Systems Incorporated Distribution: usa Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1993 18:11:46 GMT I've been playing with Microphone II for a few weeks and it is the greatest! Of course this means I'm now spending megabux shipping soundbytes back and forth to California. And so far I can only dial out to my buddy's computer. Looking at Microphone's scripting language it seems like not such a problem to write a BBS script and allow dialin. So my question(s) is(are) does anyone have such a script? How about any other cool scripts to make my modem a little more useful? Send me a script and I'll send you a stupid soundbyte (please specify Lost In Space, Ren & Stimpy, Dragnet, Beavis & Butthead or other) -- Patrick Hester ph@pencom.com 212-513-7777 NeXT Mail OK =8(\/\) -<-@
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: kunal@passion.pilot.dmg.ml.com (Kunal Singh) Subject: CDPlayer.app Message-ID: <C9r07t.Cw7@tigadmin.ml.com> Sender: kunal@passion (Kunal Singh) Organization: Merrill Lynch Debt Markets Group Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1993 14:57:28 GMT Has anyone successfully used this application ?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.amiga.multimedia,comp.sys.mac.hardware From: uunet!sci34hub!tybrin4!trey (Trey McClendon) Subject: Need Recommendations on a video analysis solution Message-ID: <1993Jul6.194913.1616@tybrin4.uucp> Sender: trey@tybrin4.uucp (Trey McClendon) Organization: TYBRIN Corporation, Huntsville AL Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1993 19:49:13 GMT Hi you Multimedia Fans, I have been asked to research solutions for analyzing video tape frame by frame in order to determine trajectories and speeds of objects on tape. Our office currently uses NeXTstations and PCs on Windows or NEXTSTEP, so NEXTSTEP/DOS/WINDOWS solutions are preferred. But, if there is a compelling reason to use a Mac or an Amiga, let me hear it. Are there any NeXTDimension fans out there that could provide info? How about the Amiga Toaster? How about this Video Spigot that I heard mentioned back in the nebulous past? Information that I'd like would be about software, hardware (cards, cables), and any other equipment that is needed. For example, would a standard VCR work? Seems like it, but I don't know for sure. I suppose there should be some sort of time keeping that is precise enough to make position and velocity estimation based on change in position from frame to frame. Please email directly to me at: tybrin4!trey@sci34hub.sci.com as I don't get many of these groups. thanks in advance, Trey McClendon TYBRIN Corporation
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc From: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) Subject: Help, I need overhead projectors Message-ID: <1993Jul6.204618.728@weston.com> Sender: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1993 20:46:18 GMT This is a request for help. I have a presentation to 50 people in the Houston Medical Center in less than two weeks. The original expected turnout was much smaller. For the demonstration we were going to have two machines doing things back and forth, and were going to split the group of 25 -30 people so that each group could semi-particpate. Now with 50 expected people, that is not going to be possible. This is the call for help. I understand the there is an LCD display that can be put on an overhead and then projected. If anyone out there has one, and is willing to rent it out, please let me know. All help is greatly appreciated. One machine will be a Color Turbo, and the other is a Mono Station. Thanks Wes Spears jspears@weston.com (713) 827-2650 -- Wes Spears <-------> jspears@weston.com (NeXTMail Welcome) The Weston Group 8524 Highway 6 North, 162, Houston, TX 77095
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: wkwong@bode.eng.ohio-state.edu (Waihon Andrew Kwong) Subject: Help on installing HD NEEDED - WREN 8. Message-ID: <1993Jul7.005034.12532@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu> Sender: news@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu Organization: The Ohio State University Dept of Electrical Engineering Distribution: usa Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1993 00:50:34 GMT I'm trying to install a WREN 8 ST41650N drive on my CUBE. Is there anyway to reformat the drive to use 1024byte sector?? Any comment are welcome, Thanks in advance. Andy
From: scip2037@nusunix.nus.sg (CHENG JANG THYE) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXTSTEP on IBM ValuePoint Date: 7 Jul 1993 01:55:34 GMT Organization: National University of Singapore Message-ID: <21daem$2sa@nuscc.nus.sg> Hi, Has anyone of you got NeXTSTEP running on IBM ValuePoint PCs? Well, I understand from the Compatibility Guide that one would need a driver update if he wants to get a resolution higher than standard VGA. I believe the driver update is supposed to be out in July. In any case, if any of you have successfully configured a ValuePoint PC to run NeXTSTEP, I would appreciate if you could send me the specifications of all the components used. Thank you and have a nice day, Jang Thye
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) Subject: Electronic App Wrapper Message-ID: <1993Jul7.032336.22039@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: DSO, Stanford University Date: Wed, 7 Jul 93 03:23:36 GMT People have been wondering where the 2nd EAW was. Well, mine arrived in the mail today. And might I add its a superb job; great art, great music, more demos and brochures, and _much_ faster than the first EAW. -- - Stefano Pagiola Food Research Institute, Stanford University spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged) spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: uunet!sci34hub!tybrin4!trey (Trey McClendon) Subject: Digital Librarian losing the Circle-I ! Message-ID: <1993Jul6.215639.2054@tybrin4.uucp> Sender: trey@tybrin4.uucp (Trey McClendon) Organization: TYBRIN Corporation, Huntsville AL Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1993 21:56:39 GMT Ok, I give up on this one. For the last few months I've noticed that Digital Librarian loses the 'I' indication of begin indexed. It happens on multi-target bookshelves, single-target bookshelves, search-in or not. Other users on the network do not have this problem. It is baffling. Sometimes, I can press 'Update' and it will start updating, although I have no permission to do so. Pressing 'Stop' then 'Setup' might, after saying OK to the 'You don't have permission to set up' panel, turn the 'I' back on. I've restarted from a clean slate many times, dragging the target folders to the shelf. The 'I' will be visible and it will work. The next day, nothing will work. Any ideas? Trey tybrin4!trey@sci34hub.sci.com
Message-ID: <lp$@byu.edu> Date: Tue, 6 Jul 93 23:43:02 MDT From: erikp@digaudio.byu.edu (Erik Peterson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NSI 486 Install Problems ----------------- NeXTSTEP 486 Installation problems ----------------------- I'm having problems installing NSI on my system. I get to the prompt: Ready to install NEXTSTEP Type 1 to start. Type 2 to quit: ---> I type 1 and shortly get repeating " Intr, dropping IRQ 7" Then messages then say something about "I/O errror" and "Cannot initialize hard disk". I also get Keyboard and MouseInit Failures. The system I'm using is as follows: 486DX-50 (NICE motherboard, AMI BIOS) 8MB RAM BusLogic 542 SCSI card Texel CD ROM IDE 322MB Maxtor HDD ( The FDISK utility reports the following inconsistancy: Device 322 MB Bios 321 MB ) For some reason it doesn't seem to be properly recognizing my hard disk. I don't know where the IRQ 7 business is comming from either. Thanks for your help! Erik Home: (801) 375-7081
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy From: artek@mindvox.phantom.com (Ardal Technologies) Subject: NS Serial Port Drivers. HELLO??? Anyone home???? In-Reply-To: <21brkc$cjo@menudo.uh.edu> Message-ID: <uqya7B2w165w@mindvox.phantom.com> Keywords: broken garbage non-responsive company chapter 11 Sender: mindvox@mindvox.phantom.com (MindVox) Organization: [Phantom Access] / the MindVox system Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1993 05:36:05 GMT To whom it may concern, presuming of course that anyone ever reads these words at NeXT and does anything more than shrug and get on with their life. Yoo Hoo. I know that NeXT LOVES its customers, especially the new Intel customers who have gone out on a limb to purchase NeXSTEP and evaluate it for future use and recommendation to clients. So I'm sure it must be that NeXT just hasn't seen the slew of posts that crosses these newsgroups on a daily basis regarding the serial port drivers, or LACK of serial port drivers, (the built-in crash and hang the system feature). I find it extremely annoying to first be influenced to evaluate an operating system I have heard nothing but praise for, from a corporation I have heard nothing but horror stories about (that's YOU NeXT), and then to be swayed to try it by gung-ho groups of evangelists who infest MindVox. Congratulations NeXT, judging by the number of rants in the local Forums on Vox you have at least 20 idiots who have purchased your OS and are now stuck. This is the tail end of the 20th century, NETWORKING is very important, people need to hook their computers together and use them to access other computers. They can't do this with NeXTSTEP 3.1 because the serial drivers DO NOT WORK. I'm sure that 3.2 will be a grand masterpiece that rights wrongs and fixes everything that was ever wrong (and there are at least 30 little gripes that come to mind ranging from the washed out appearance of the JAWS and ATI drivers, on systems that display rich and vivid color under Windows, to the countless little details that don't quite work). I am willing to accept all of this in the "beta" public release. What is utterly and absolutely unacceptable is selling an OS that CANNOT be used with a modem and then ignoring the constant cries of outrage. What may I ask is the problem? Does it take the greatest minds on earth years of time to write a serial port driver for a 486? A feat that countless very small corporations seem to have great success with. NeXT, FIX THIS and make it available SOON, as in SOONER than you are thinking about since you have apparently decided its OK to ignore this "minor" oversight. It really is very difficult to appreciate the wonder of NeXTSTEP from a machine that is crashing every 45 minutes. It is equally difficult to even suggest to anyone half-serious about getting any work done, that NeXTSTEP is a viable alternative. Thank you ever so much for your attention, a customer, Joseph Mercke, Vice President, Artek Technologies.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: dean@world.std.com (Dean S Banfield) Subject: Taking the plunge Message-ID: <DEAN.93Jul7014344@world.std.com> Sender: dean@world.std.com (Dean S Banfield) Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA Distribution: comp Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1993 06:43:44 GMT Hi, The $299 promo is too good to pass up. I've always longed for the Cube, but couldn't bring myself to shell out for it. Now I'll buy some 486 stuff and if it doesn't work out, I'll have a shit hot games machine for DOS/Windows. I'm about to bite for : Gateway 2000 DX2 -66V 424 IDE hard drive (admittedly low disk) ATI VL-bus Graphics Ultra pro 17" Nanao 550i Gateway's CD-ROM player (Media Vision Pro Audio Spectrum 16 [when money falls in my lap]) My questions: Is the Gateway CD acceptable at all to NextStep? Is it an adequate performer? I fear that NextStep won't recognise the CD at all because it isn't a SCSI device. Any assurances before I have them ship it would be great. They try to assure me that 30 days is fine with them, just send it bac. But I'd rather get it right first time. Also any suggestions about backup tapes that are supported with this system would be wonderful. Thanks. -Dean -- Dean S. Banfield Voice: (203) 656-1500 Real Decisions Corporation FAX : (203) 656-1659 22 Thorndal Circle email: dean@world.std.com Darien, CT 06820
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy From: deadboy@mindvox.phantom.com (The Dead) Subject: Re: NS Serial Port Drivers. HELLO??? Anyone home???? Message-ID: <R1Za7B1w165w@mindvox.phantom.com> Keywords: broken garbage non-responsive company chapter 11 Sender: mindvox@mindvox.phantom.com (MindVox) Organization: [Phantom Access] / the MindVox system References: <uqya7B2w165w@mindvox.phantom.com> Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1993 06:03:38 GMT artek@mindvox.phantom.com (Ardal Technologies) writes: (of the Artek, Ardal and Amran family of consultants to Shysters, Thieves and Profiteers, and all around annoying group of people ;-) Pbbblt) > > To whom it may concern, presuming of course that anyone ever reads these > words at NeXT and does anything more than shrug and get on with their life. > > Yoo Hoo. I know that NeXT LOVES its customers, especially the new Intel > customers who have gone out on a limb to purchase NeXSTEP and evaluate it > for future use and recommendation to clients. So I'm sure it must be that > NeXT just hasn't seen the slew of posts that crosses these newsgroups on a > daily basis regarding the serial port drivers, or LACK of serial port > drivers, (the built-in crash and hang the system feature). > | Deleted, a lot of heat, unfortunately most of it justified. | NeXT, this is bullshit. It takes a not-very-long-time to write serial port drivers. If you can't handle it in-house, pay me and I'll deliver some that work within 3 days. Joseph is a putz, I can say that because my future employment will never hinge on him liking me. Sadly he's right, people. I *know* somebody who is not stupid is reading these words, and I know the reason serial port drivers that work haven't been released is because someone in marketing has his head up his ass and is wondering if the time is just perfect. Guys, I don't care that SoftPC slid, that various little itty bitty things that people I talked to said would be in NS FIP release edition, also slipped. But listen...... you are *not* going to have a great big blurb on NS3.2 that says "Now with Serial Port Drivers that Work!", its not a great big marketing bonanza to provide some very basic features that are supposed to work. Please pull it out, get your shit together, and release something that fixes this. I hate MS so I'm running OS/2 on my "White Hardware" and as time goes by I'm starting to like it. I hope I don't get to liking it *too much* peace and a lot of caffeine to at least semi-aware person to fix this shit. The Dead Shall Rise
Organization: Central Michigan University Date: Tuesday, 6 Jul 1993 13:20:12 EDT From: John Goggan <34II5MT@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU> Message-ID: <93187.13201234II5MT@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT and modem as answering machine References: <1993Jun24.005312.21458@cs.ucla.edu> <20c9lh$4fj@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> <tlm.740942672@scl1.al.iastate.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Path: cmuvm.csv.cmich.edu!news.ysu.edu!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!howland.reston.ans.net! ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!newsrelay.iastate.edu!news.iastate.edu!scl1.al.iastate.edu!tlm From: tlm@iastate.edu (Tom Marchioro) Subject: Re: NeXT and modem as answering machine Message-ID: <tlm.740942672@scl1.al.iastate.edu> Sender: news@news.iastate.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA References: <1993Jun24.005312.21458@cs.ucla.edu> <20c9lh$4fj@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1993 17:24:32 GMT Lines: 17 In <20c9lh$4fj@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (Axel Habermann) writes: > This is indeed a nice program, and written by a very nice guy, Jolly > Stein, but is there any hope someone will convert it to work with other > modems? Like maybe a Supra? (which I just happen to have :) To do such great feats with a modem, the modem must be "special." You see, the ZyXEL modem has specific features built-in for doing things with voice -- converting the voice into a data stream that can be manipulated (saved). Unless the Supra supports such a feature (and I don't belive it does -- in fact, I know of no other modems that do), then it would be impossible to convert "am" to work with it (or any other modem). Sorry... - John...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy From: artek@mindvox.phantom.com (Ardal Technologies) Subject: Re: NS Serial Port Drivers. HELLO??? Anyone home???? Message-ID: <To1a7B1w165w@mindvox.phantom.com> Keywords: broken garbage non-responsive company chapter 11 Sender: mindvox@mindvox.phantom.com (MindVox) Organization: [Phantom Access] / the MindVox system References: <R1Za7B1w165w@mindvox.phantom.com> Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1993 06:18:04 GMT deadboy@mindvox.phantom.com (The Dead) writes: > artek@mindvox.phantom.com (Ardal Technologies) writes: > > (of the Artek, Ardal and Amran family of consultants to Shysters, Thieves > and Profiteers, and all around annoying group of people ;-) Pbbblt) > > > Joseph is a putz, I can say that because my future employment will > never hinge on him liking me. Sadly he's right, people. Sir this constitutes libel and defamation of character and is utterly uncalled for, especially from an individual who does not even use his name online and whose sole contribution appears to be a near-endless series of posts about drug use and programming obscure unix security tricks and methods of crashing computer networks. My lawyers will draft a formal response and deliver them to you care of MindVox, who I'm sure will be pleased to know they are accomplices to your attack upon my person. > I *know* somebody who is not stupid is reading these words, > know the reason serial port drivers that work haven't been released is > because someone in marketing has his head up his ass and is wondering if > the time is just perfect. I am not technically versed but this does not sound too far from being the truth on this topic and it is simply outrageous.
From: gmdst4+@pitt.edu (Gretchen M Dick) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Services menu.... Message-ID: <15983@blue.cis.pitt.edu> Date: 7 Jul 93 06:37:56 GMT Sender: news+@pitt.edu Organization: University of Pittsburgh Originator: gmdst4@unixd3.cis.pitt.edu How do i remove unwanted Apps from the services menu? Thanks Gretchen -- Gretchen "Think's Mark needs his own account" Dick md3z@andrew.cmu.edu or gmdst4@pitt.edu Standard Disclaimers Apply
From: gmdst4+@pitt.edu (Gretchen M Dick) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXT 030 Cubes Message-ID: <15984@blue.cis.pitt.edu> Date: 7 Jul 93 06:44:46 GMT Sender: news+@pitt.edu Organization: University of Pittsburgh Originator: gmdst4@unixd3.cis.pitt.edu What is the relative preformace of a NeXT 030 cube vs a NeXT Mono Slab (non-turbo)? Is it merely a matter of MIPS or is Video and I/O affected also. Are there also Hardware limitations? Will some software not compile/work on the 030s? Thank you very much, Gretchen -- Gretchen "Think's Mark needs his own account" Dick md3z@andrew.cmu.edu or gmdst4@pitt.edu Standard Disclaimers Apply
From: sritchie@cs.ubc.ca (Stuart Ritchie) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NS Serial Port Drivers. HELLO??? Anyone home???? Date: 7 Jul 1993 00:02:38 -0700 Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada Message-ID: <21dseeINN37d@stephen.cs.ubc.ca> References: <uqya7B2w165w@mindvox.phantom.com> In article <uqya7B2w165w@mindvox.phantom.com> artek@mindvox.phantom.com (Ardal Technologies) writes: >This is the tail end of the 20th century, NETWORKING is very important, >people need to hook their computers together and use them to access other >computers. They can't do this with NeXTSTEP 3.1 because the serial >drivers DO NOT WORK. Are serial connections to printers likewise broken? I also can't imagine NeXT producing an operating system that can't communicate serially with a PostScript printer. I regularly telecommute via modem, and can't imagine working without such an option. Hearing about the NS/FIP serial port support is not good news indeed. One must have an open mind when diagnosing problems like this though. Could be hardware and/or software oriented. You seem to assume that it's just the software that's broken. We don't have all the answers yet. I have read at least 2 reports of successful serial port operation. Intermittent bugs with interrupt handlers is a real debugging problem, and a royal pain. It's the kind of stuff that make schedules slip, and drive programmers to change careers. Stuart
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: bcongdon@lotatg.lotus.com (Bob Congdon) Subject: Re: Lack of Docs in Dev3.1 (was 3.1 Developer MAB!) Message-ID: <C9r844.np@lotus.com> Sender: news@lotus.com Organization: Lotus Development References: <1993Jul2.020511.4590@milo.UUCP> Distribution: na Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1993 17:48:03 GMT In article <1993Jul2.020511.4590@milo.UUCP> chris%milo@wpa.com (Chris Cleeland) writes: > In article <20p6ki$f6d@otter.mrj.com> dbbrown@otter.mrj.com (Dan > Brown) writes: > Is it just me, or was anybody else who got NS/I surprised to find out > that 3.1 for Black hardware DID NOT include the programming/reference > manuals? I could swear that I'd asked that question of several > NeXT-related people and they'd all said yes. What's more, there's > not even a discount coupon like that provided in the Evaluation > package. Surely NeXT could have done better than this... > > Disappointed, > -cj For some reason I had also assumed that the 3.1 Developer upgrade for black hardware was the same as the NS/FIP Developer package. Nope. The 3.1 Developer upgrade is more like the NS 3.0 upgrade: a small cardboard box containing discs and a few thin paper inserts. Conversely, the 3.1 User package for Motorola has nice packaging: same as the Intel version. I don't feel too bad since I already spent money for a set of NS 3.0 manuals. Except for the Objective-C manual, the 3.1 docs appear to only differ from 3.0 in the cover artwork. Besides, my bookshelves probably couldn't hold another set of NEXTSTEP manuals -- I still haven't parted with my NEXTSTEP 0.9, 1.0 and 2.0 manuals yet... :-) --bob congdon bcongdon@lotatg.lotus.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: arb@andersen.co.uk (Phil Mellor) Subject: Question to Nextstep/I installers Message-ID: <1993Jul7.090406.13955@andersen.co.uk> Organization: Andersen Consulting (UK Practice) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1993 09:04:06 GMT I have a question... I have a Compaq 4/66i whcih has a 120Mb IDE drive, QVision graphics and a 3Com 3 c509 Ethernet card. If I want to do a full installation can I choose to put the operating system on my hard disk and the extra stuff ( dev stuff and all other non essential code ) on my Novell 3.11 network which has 22Gb free? I would ideally like to have 10-20Mb free on my hard disk and I don't care how m uch space I take up on my Novell server. Also does NS/I come with drivers for 3c509's or do I have to ask 3com? Also can I copy the entire contents of the NS/I CD to my server and boot up from a DOS disk acces the server and install from there of am I talking rubbish ( it wouldn't be the first time :^) ) That would be great coz I wouldn't have to cart a cd drive and adapter from PC t o PC. Thanks in advance. Philip Buckley-Mellor arb@andersen.co.uk VC: (44) 61 435 5292 FX: (44) 61 435 5050:w
From: zryx0376@awssg6.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel (Hiwi bei R.Rabenseifner)) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NS Serial Port Drivers. HELLO??? Anyone home???? Date: 7 Jul 1993 10:58:16 GMT Organization: Visualization Group Comp.Center (RUS) U of Stuttgart, FRG Message-ID: <21ea88$v09@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> References: <uqya7B2w165w@mindvox.phantom.com> <21dseeINN37d@stephen.cs.ubc.ca> In article <21dseeINN37d@stephen.cs.ubc.ca> sritchie@cs.ubc.ca (Stuart Ritchie) writes: >In article <uqya7B2w165w@mindvox.phantom.com> artek@mindvox.phantom.com (Ardal Technologies) writes: >>This is the tail end of the 20th century, NETWORKING is very important, >>people need to hook their computers together and use them to access other >>computers. They can't do this with NeXTSTEP 3.1 because the serial >>drivers DO NOT WORK. > >Are serial connections to printers likewise broken? I also can't imagine >NeXT producing an operating system that can't communicate serially with a >PostScript printer. I could not imagine either. Having NS/I - I _can_ :-((( >One must have an open mind when diagnosing problems like this though. >Could be hardware and/or software oriented. You seem to assume that >it's just the software that's broken. We don't have all the answers >yet. I have read at least 2 reports of successful serial port operation. I have read more than a dozen reports that they do _not_ work. And it does not help me if some guys claim that they do. A serial port consists of a base hex address, an IRQ number and a FIFO buffer. What the f*** is so critical about it? -- /dev Markus Wenzel, University of Stuttgart /usr/spool/mail wenzel@rus.uni-stuttgart.de ~/.ircrc/nick Marsu /etc/motd NeXTSTEP for Intel - Come on and join!
From: david@postman.gr.osf.org (David George) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NS Serial Port Drivers. HELLO??? Anyone home???? Date: 7 Jul 1993 12:23:13 GMT Organization: OSF RI Grenoble Distribution: world Message-ID: <21ef7h$47p@paperboy.osf.org> References: <uqya7B2w165w@mindvox.phantom.com> <21dseeINN37d@stephen.cs.ubc.ca> <21ea88$v09@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> In article <21ea88$v09@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>, |> A serial port consists of a base hex address, an IRQ number and a FIFO |> buffer. What the f*** is so critical about it? Dunno :-), but most Unix companies have someone assigned full time to getting and keeping the serial drivers working. David.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: peter@corsica (Peter Eisch) Subject: Re: Services menu.... Message-ID: <C9spt4.MHq@news.cis.umn.edu> Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: University of Minnesota References: <15983@blue.cis.pitt.edu> Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1993 13:06:30 GMT Check out the Services item in the Preferences app. It's usually way over on the right. (No political satire intended.) peter Gretchen M Dick (gmdst4+@pitt.edu) wrote: : How do i remove unwanted Apps from the services menu? : Thanks : Gretchen : -- : Gretchen "Think's Mark needs his own account" Dick : md3z@andrew.cmu.edu or gmdst4@pitt.edu : Standard Disclaimers Apply -- I felt his rocket science training was inadequate. peter@tahiti.umhc.umn.edu (Peter Eisch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: Tim Mukherjee <mukherje@NorthStar.com> Subject: NorthStar seeks software engineers, NYC Message-ID: <9307062338.AA01407@NorthStar.com> Sender: <mukherje@NorthStar.com> Organization: Indiana University Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1993 23:39:33 GMT NorthStar Technologies, Inc. is a small software development and consulting firm based in New York City specializing in the use of object-oriented and client-server technologies. We provide innovative software solutions for financial institutions and other businesses. We are enlarging our staff due to an influx of new business and seek employees that match the following profiles: 1) Two senior managers - BSCC or equivalent, MS preferred - 7 to 9 years of software engineering experience - Mastery of object-oriented design and development techniques - Mastery of client-server techniques - Extensive knowledge and ability using C++ and other object-oriented languages - Extensive knowledge of UNIX - Extensive knowledge of Sybase, both the Open Client library (API) as well as the server. Knowledge of other RDBMS products in commercial use a plus - Good working knowledge with GUIs including Motif - Knowledge of the financial business a strong plus - Good working knowledge of NeXTstep a strong plus - Consulting experience preferred, especially technical leadership and account management 2) Five senior software engineers/consultants - BSCC or equivalent - 3 to 5 years of software engineering experience - Good working knowledge of object-oriented design and development techniques - Good working knowledge of client-server techniques - Good working knowledge of C++ - Good working knowledge of UNIX - Good working knowledge of Motif (OpenLook experience a plus) - Good working knowledge of the Sybase Open Client library (API) - Good working knowledge of NeXTstep a strong plus - Consulting experience a strong plus - Knowledge of the financial business a strong plus 3) Two NeXTstep software engineers - BSCC or equivalent - More than a year's experience with NeXTstep application development - Extensive knowledge of the NeXTstep appkit - Good working knowledge of Objective C - Good working knowledge of UNIX - Experience with the Sybase Open Client library (API) and other commercial RDBMS application programming a strong plus - Knowledge of C++ desirable 4) A UNIX system administrator - BSCC or equivalent - Significant experience with heterogeneous UNIX network environments - Good working knowledge of UNIX system administration tools - Commercial RDBMS installation and maintenance - Significant experience with hardware purchasing, installation, configuration and maintenance - Good working knowledge of NeXTstep a strong plus - C, C++ or Objective C experience a plus - Consulting experience a plus If you match any of these profiles, please contact us. NorthStar Technologies, Inc. 15 Maiden Lane, Suite 803 New York, New York 10038 Attention: Morris Gartenberg Phone: 212-267-4100 extension 135 Fax: 212-267-4468 e-mail: gartenb@northstar.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: royce@splunge.uucp (Royce Howland) Subject: Re: NS Serial Port Drivers. HELLO??? Anyone home???? Message-ID: <1993Jul7.132506.26278@splunge.uucp> Organization: Ashley, Howland & Wood References: <uqya7B2w165w@mindvox.phantom.com> <21dseeINN37d@stephen.cs.ubc.ca> Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1993 13:25:06 GMT sritchie@cs.ubc.ca (Stuart Ritchie) writes: >In article <uqya7B2w165w@mindvox.phantom.com> artek@mindvox.phantom.com (Ardal Technologies) writes: >>This is the tail end of the 20th century, NETWORKING is very important, >>people need to hook their computers together and use them to access other >>computers. They can't do this with NeXTSTEP 3.1 because the serial >>drivers DO NOT WORK. >Are serial connections to printers likewise broken? I also can't imagine >NeXT producing an operating system that can't communicate serially with a >PostScript printer. >I regularly telecommute via modem, and can't imagine working without >such an option. Hearing about the NS/FIP serial port support is not >good news indeed. >One must have an open mind when diagnosing problems like this though. >Could be hardware and/or software oriented. You seem to assume that >it's just the software that's broken. We don't have all the answers >yet. I have read at least 2 reports of successful serial port operation. >Intermittent bugs with interrupt handlers is a real debugging problem, >and a royal pain. It's the kind of stuff that make schedules slip, >and drive programmers to change careers. If the serial driver is broken, then certainly serial connections to printers are broken, wouldn't you say? :~) I've been told straight out by a NeXT tech support SE, after I phoned in a trouble report regarding PostScript printing via serial port, that the serial driver under 3.1 Intel is "totally broken and will be fixed in 3.2". Whether that means we have to wait until 3.2 to get the fix, I don't know. Presumably a patch could be released earlier... Now, in fact, the serial driver seems to work okay at low speeds (up to 9600 bps), mostly okay at 19.2 kbps, and not at all any faster than that. This is my experience after a limited amount of testing trying to get serial-based printing to work. For printing, at least, there's no point worrying about broken serial support; just use parallel, since it works like a charm. -- Royce Howland, DKW Systems Corp. | "And since OS/2 2.0 is a 32-bit Everything is IMHO | operating system, programs are royce@splunge.uucp (NeXTMail OK) | easier to write and run faster, or kakwa!atlantis!splunge!royce | too." -ad for OS/2 2.0
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: joe@FreemanSoft.com (Joe Freeman) Subject: Re: NS Serial Port Drivers. HELLO??? Anyone home???? Message-ID: <1993Jul7.144651.2918@FreemanSoft.com> Sender: jfreeman@FreemanSoft.com Organization: FreemanSoft Inc. References: <21ea88$v09@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1993 14:46:51 GMT In article <21ea88$v09@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> zryx0376@awssg6.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel (Hiwi bei R.Rabenseifner)) writes: > In article <21dseeINN37d@stephen.cs.ubc.ca> sritchie@cs.ubc.ca (Stuart Ritchie) writes: > >In article <uqya7B2w165w@mindvox.phantom.com> artek@mindvox.phantom.com (Ardal Technologies) writes: > > >One must have an open mind when diagnosing problems like this though. > >Could be hardware and/or software oriented. You seem to assume that > >it's just the software that's broken. We don't have all the answers > >yet. I have read at least 2 reports of successful serial port operation. > > I have read more than a dozen reports that they do _not_ work. > And it does not help me if some guys claim that they do. > A serial port consists of a base hex address, an IRQ number and a FIFO > buffer. What the f*** is so critical about it? Serial ports are often a problem for multi tasking systems. This is because of the relative stupidity of the serial port cards, and the interrupt overhead associated with each character that arrives or leaves. It was pretty common that Unix systems in particular would have relativly low baud rate limits. The usual method of getting around this is to put in a smarter, buffered card. The serial ports on a PC have no real smarts and relativly shallow buffers. In addition, the protocols used on a the mach/unix system may require interrogation of every character that comes in. This leads to a relativly high overhead for serial processing (68030 based cubes could barely do 9600). The robustness of the current 3.1 driver is probably directly proportional to the baudrate and general system load. It is my understanding that NeXT is working on new serial drivers that should give better serial performance. The tradeoff is that the rest of the system will probably slow down. -- Joe Freeman FreemanSoft Inc. A NEXTSTEP software and consulting services company. Electronic Mail: Joe@FreemanSoft.com (NeXT Mail) Voice: 919.783.7033
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1993 11:48:23 EDT From: <CADER@auvm.american.edu> Message-ID: <93188.114823CADER@auvm.american.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Does anyone know what has happened to TECOR? How can equipment we purchased be serviced. If they went out of business...who has taken over from them? Really appreciate any help you may provide.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: ddj+@cs.cmu.edu (Doug DeJulio) Subject: Re: NS Serial Port Drivers. HELLO??? Anyone home???? Message-ID: <C9sy1B.1GF.2@cs.cmu.edu> Sender: news@cs.cmu.edu (Usenet News System) Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon References: <21ea88$v09@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> <1993Jul7.144651.2918@FreemanSoft.com> Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1993 16:05:34 GMT In article <1993Jul7.144651.2918@FreemanSoft.com> joe@FreemanSoft.com writes: > This leads to a relativly high overhead for serial processing (68030 > based cubes could barely do 9600). The robustness of the current 3.1 > driver is probably directly proportional to the baudrate and general > system load. It is my understanding that NeXT is working on new > serial drivers that should give better serial performance. The > tradeoff is that the rest of the system will probably slow down. Datapoint: Linux manages to do pretty well with its serial port drivers, and it runs on the same hardware as NeXTstep, and it's a multitasking Unix too. AND, it manages to stay rather zippy. So, it's certainly possible to get this right. -- Doug DeJulio ddj+@cmu.edu
From: pkron@corona.com (Peter Kron) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: tip/zmodem question Message-ID: <111.UUL1.3#16216@corona.com> Date: Wed, 7 Jul 93 15:17:40 PDT Organization: Corona Design, Inc., Seattle, WA Probably something silly, but whenever I use the ~| command from tip to pipe output from the remote host to a local process, I get a complaint from csh: Permission denied. My intent was to pipe a remote sz to a local rz for file transfer, however I tried various other local commands (ls, cat) as well. In all cases I never get to answer the "List shell command for remote process?" prompt... I immediately get "csh: Permission denied". Usually after CR is entered tip hangs and has to be killed. What am I doing wrong? Please respond by e-mail. Thanks --------------- Peter Kron P.O. Box 51022 Corona Design, Inc. Seattle, WA 98115-1022 Peter_Kron@corona.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: kbacon@austin.onu.edu (C0d3 M0n$t3r) Subject: Re: CDPlayer.app Sender: usenet@austin.onu.edu (Network News owner) Message-ID: <1993Jul7.170716.81395@austin.onu.edu> Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1993 17:07:16 GMT References: <C9r07t.Cw7@tigadmin.ml.com> Organization: Ohio Northern University Kunal Singh (kunal@passion.pilot.dmg.ml.com) wrote: : Has anyone successfully used this application ? Nope...:( I've played with it for hours, and finally decided that my Hitachi CDROM must not be audio compatable... (Hmmm, as an E.E./Comp. Sci. I've learned to blame the hardware.) I'm not at home so I don't know the Model Number of the Drive, will follow up with the Model number later, maybe someone else owns one of these and knows. The only thing I have heard about the CDPlayer.app is, it won't work if you have SCSI ID 0 and 1, if this is your configuration, try moving your CDROM from 1 to ID 5 or 6. (I believe this was in the release notes of Black HW 3.0) But I run NS/I, and changing the CDROM ID didn't work for me, good luck to you... Kyle C. Bacon kbacon@gauss.onu.edu (NeXTMail accepted)
From: drichard@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Darren R Richardson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: WordPerfect question Date: 7 Jul 1993 17:11:57 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Distribution: world Message-ID: <21f04t$jra@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> When using WP 5.1 for DOS it is possible to print a document to a laser printer that has several bins. The appropriate codes are placed in the document to print (for example, the first page of a document is printed on letterhead in bin2 and the second page is printed to normal paper in bin1. Is it possible to insert these same codes in a document using WP for NeXT? I know if you choose print in WP for NeXT, it is possible to select other bins to print to. This doesn't seem to work good. The printer I am trying to print to is a HP Laserjet IIID Postscript. -- Darren Richardson The Ohio State University Department of Family Medicine Programmer/Analyst
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: kgnome@cs.concordia.ca (S. Matis, 13th Generation) Subject: Mathematica ... it churns and nothing! Message-ID: <C9t210.Mt9@newsflash.concordia.ca> Sender: usenet@newsflash.concordia.ca (USENET News System) Organization: Wolfnet Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1993 17:31:47 GMT A year after I bought my machine, I finally installed Mathematica with my license and all. The license was long in coming, and so I thought I should be alright when it did show up. Well, I installed with small kernel option on my 16MB NeXTstation Color. I'm running 3.0 Gold ... and I can't even get 5+7 to be evaluated! I wonder... is there anything that needs to be changed ? I belive that the Mathematica floppies indicate 2.0.4c for version. In one word : HELP. S. I. Matis, clueless in MathLand ...
From: erikkay@next.com (Erik Kay) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NS Serial Port Drivers. HELLO??? Anyone home???? Date: 7 Jul 1993 17:32:21 GMT Organization: NeXT, Inc. Message-ID: <21f1b6$67q@rosie.next.com> References: <C9sy1B.1GF.2@cs.cmu.edu> Just a FYI here.... Yes, the serial driver released in 3.1 has some big problems. As many of you are aware, we were under some pretty heavy time constraints shipping 3.1 by May 25th. We could not slip from this date, so we shipped a buggy serial driver. We haven't been ignoring the problem as some people here have been suggesting. We haven't been ignoring customers complaints. It's probably our #1 priority patch to release before 3.2 ships. We do in fact have a fixed serial driver in house and are in the process of testing it. Making sure we don't release another buggy driver is very important to us, so we're spending a lot of time testing it. The last I heard, the tests were progressing very well, and people are expecting that we'll be able to release it in the next couple of weeks. However, if some aspect of the testing fails, it might take a little longer. Erik p.s. I didn't write the serial driver, just letting you know that we do listen to you in here.
From: yslee@ux5.lbl.gov (yongsik lee) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: is TECOR afloat? Date: 7 Jul 1993 18:02:15 GMT Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory Message-ID: <21f337$h2v@overload.lbl.gov> References: <oorient.741780535@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU> I tried to call them up a week ago. Their phone was disconnected without any other information. Yongsik LEE yslee@ux5.lbl.gov
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: charles@oneworld.wa.com Subject: Re: NSFIP on Compudyne or ZEOS Systems? Message-ID: <1993Jul7.171721.1202@oneworld.wa.com> Organization: OneWorld Enterprises/OneWorld Computing Resources References: <C9nDtv.64A@imag.fr> Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1993 17:17:21 GMT Save your self a lot of grief and DON"T buy a Zeos machine!!!!!! I was swayed by their fancy ad's and the "glowing" reviews they got in PC-Magazine. What I got shipped to me is esentially a $3000 (at the time) paper weight!!! Here's the deal, Their customer services sucks big time. They made a mistake in my order in sending a wrong component and then expected me to give them my credit card number to send the correct part. -strike 1- Then, on the 28th day of the 30day money back gaurantee the IDE hard drive looses the data. I figure, these things happen, I call tech support and after waiting for over 1 hour (fortunatly on Zeos's nickel), I get some help, which is basically reformat the drive and start over. So, I go out and get a standard QIC tape drive so I never have to go through that again. Guess what, the tape drive doesn't work in this machine. I go and have another tape drive installed in the machine and that one doesnt work. So I call Tech support and they don't know what's happening but they say ship the unit back and we'll get it working. So I spend about $60 to get it back to them and they keep it for about 2 weeks and ship it back to me. Guess what, They didn't do a QR%Q%$%@^^% thing to fix the unit!!! the work order says they hooked up one of theirs and it worked so the machine isn't at fault. ---strike 2--- While the machine was back there I had them install the aformentioned Adaptec scsi chip. Oh, by the way, the 30 MBG has long since run out having had faith that the problem with the disk drive was minor.... So, now I want to install NeXTSTEP on this machine, I go to hook up a CD rom drive and start the NEXTSTEP install proceedure and the Mach kernel doesnt seem to be able to register the CD rom drive. So, I figured the scsi Chip that Zeos installed must not be 100% compatible with the Adaptec 1542 that is on the compatibility list. so I go and buy one of those. Seems that something in the Zeos bios is preventing the Adaptec 1542C controller from accessing the shadow rom bios and thus the card cannot function in the machine. Popped the card in another pc and it works perfectly. In short, the Zeos has too many proprietary things going on to be compatible with anything, the memory is non-standard 72pin SIMMS, the bios is apparantly non-standard, and so on and so on. Strike Three. I am seriously considering changing the mother board to a Vega brand to be rid of Zeos and the problems. So unless you are a masochist, don't buy Zeos!!!! Charles (suckered by Zeos) Cooper Jonathan Rice (rice@imag.fr) wrote: : Would anyone have any advice on the suitability of NSFIP for : 486DX systems from Compudyne or Zeos? Has anyone installed it : on such systems yet? Two specific questions I'm interested in: : 1. How compatible are the video cards included on these : manufacturers' standard systems? The Zeos ad I have here : talks of their local bus "Viper" card, while Compudyne is : very vague about their card, not specifying its architecture : or max colours. : 2. Zeos offer optional on-board SCSI for $49, in the shape of : an Adaptec SCSI chip. Is this likely to work with NS? I : seem to remember some discussion here recently of some other : machine whose on-boad SCSI would not work (yet). : : Thanks, : : -- Jonathan : : o----------------------------o------------------------o : | Jonathan Rice | Laboratoire ARTEMIS | : o----------------------------o Institut IMAG | : | Email: rice@dingo.imag.fr | B.P. 53 | : | Phone: (33) 76 63 58 80 | 38041 GRENOBLE Cedex 9 | : | Fax: (33) 76 63 84 23 | FRANCE | : o----------------------------o------------------------o : -- : o----------------------------o------------------------o : | Jonathan Rice | Laboratoire ARTEMIS | : o----------------------------o Institut IMAG | : | Email: rice@imag.fr | B.P. 53 |
From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Services menu.... Message-ID: <69081@mimsy.umd.edu> Date: 7 Jul 93 18:14:46 GMT References: <15983@blue.cis.pitt.edu> Sender: news@mimsy.umd.edu Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742 In article <15983@blue.cis.pitt.edu> gmdst4+@pitt.edu (Gretchen M Dick) writes: > How do i remove unwanted Apps from the services menu? use Preferences.app -- Alex Blakemore alex@cs.umd.edu NeXT mail accepted -------------------------------------------------------------- "Without an engaged and motivated human being at the keyboard, the computer is just another dumb box." William Raspberry
From: mauriti@cs.tu-berlin.de (Frank Hartlep) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: FrameMaker to RTF Date: 7 Jul 1993 18:39:27 GMT Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <21f58v$g4l@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Is there any way to get from one of the FrameMaker formats to RTF. There's frame-ascii, but haven't seen anything like frame-rtf. Thanks, Frank
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1993 15:06:37 EDT From: <CADER@auvm.american.edu> Message-ID: <93188.150637CADER@auvm.american.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Hard Disk Power Supply Problems One of our drives has gone bad. Apparently it is a 1.2G Maxtor PO-12S in a Tecor enclosure. It is a 5.24 Full Height Drive. We think it is a power supply problem because the drive is apparently clicking...ie it starts whirring up then a click. This happened to one of our seagates and was a power supply problem. We have checked the fuse and it is not blown, so I suspect that we need a new power supply. Where can we find a power supply for this enclosure since Tecor has gone out of business? Appreciate any replies. ---Masud.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: irogers@theme.music.indiana.edu (Ian Rogers) Subject: Local Bus: Neccessary for NSIP? Message-ID: <C9t7Mr.39p@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> Sender: news@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Indiana University Music Library, Bloomington Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1993 19:32:51 GMT I am in the process of pricing a system on which I will install NeXTstep Intel. I am debating the issue of Local Bus. When I saw NSIP demonstrated here on campus a couple months ago, the representatives recommended Local Bus for the graphics. When I spoke with a dealer about getting a Local Bus setup, he told me that he has had *zero* reliability with setting up Local Bus machines. He claims he has never set one up without bugs. Please give me feedback on this. If you have Local Bus setup, exactly what is the setup? Thanks, ian -- Ian Rogers Technical Support, Indiana University Music Library irogers@music-lib.indiana.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: claire@cubx.com (Claire Normand) Subject: Re: Austrian VAD Message-ID: <1993Jul7.152936.21467@cubx.com> Sender: news@cubx.com Organization: Cub'x Systemes - Rueil Malmaison, France. References: <1993Jul6.080930.5039@ghost.dsi.unimi.it> Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1993 15:29:36 GMT In article <1993Jul6.080930.5039@ghost.dsi.unimi.it> michi@cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Michele Giardini) writes: > fyr@ubszh.net.ch writes > > As I know there are just three official VAS's in Europe at the moment: > > Switzerland: ANDES > > Germany: Computer2000 and d'Art > > Thank to those who have responded ... > To Roger: > I don't really know if Hard&Soft is a VAD, but there's a VAD in Italy, > Intersoft, as well as in France (I don't remember the name). In France there are 3 official NEXTSTEP Value Added Dealers : Cub'x Systemes, Solent and Terra Nova Technologies. Here are their address : - Cub'x Systemes Immeuble Sedgwick 7, Rue Peugeot 92563 Rueil Malmaison Cedex +33 1 47 08 74 40 +33 1 47 08 74 41 fax info@cubx.com - Solent Le Stratege Z.A. du Millenaire 34000 Montpellier +33 67 69 74 14 +33 67 69 74 91 fax staff@solent.oleane.com - Terra Nova Technologies La Bastide Verte Z.I. Toulon Est B.P. 345 83077 Toulon Cedex 9 +33 94 75 83 83 +33 94 08 15 38 fax diane@tnt.oleane.com --- Claire Normand Cub'x Systemes Immeuble Sedgwick 7, Rue E. & A. Peugeot 92563 Rueil Malmaison Cedex - France Tel : (+33) (1) 47 08 74 40 Fax : (+33) (1) 47 08 74 41 e-mail : claire@cubx.com (NeXT mail)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) Subject: NS/FIP and HPGL Emulation Message-ID: <1993Jul7.163115.1194@weston.com> Sender: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1993 16:31:15 GMT Can an Panasonic Laser that can emulate an HP (Non Postscript) be used with NS/FIP? Thanks -- Wes Spears <-------> jspears@weston.com (NeXTMail Welcome) The Weston Group 8524 Highway 6 North, 162, Houston, TX 77095
Control: cancel <CRESPO.93Jul7131848@hpvclic.vcd.hp.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: crespo@vcd.hp.com (Ivan Crespo) Subject: cancel <CRESPO.93Jul7131848@hpvclic.vcd.hp.com> Sender: news@vcd.hp.com (News user) Message-ID: <CRESPO.93Jul7132251@hpvclic.vcd.hp.com> Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1993 21:22:51 GMT Organization: HP Vancouver Division Vancouver,WA
From: jfosback@darmok.uoregon.edu (Jason Fosback) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Creating NS/FIP disk from a black box? Message-ID: <21fd6r$c0j@pith.uoregon.edu> Date: 7 Jul 93 20:54:51 GMT Article-I.D.: pith.21fd6r$c0j Organization: University of Oregon Network Services Since everyone (including myself) seems to be having problems installing NS/FIP, is it possible to create the disk on a NeXT? I have a SCSI hard drive that I want to install NS/FIP on, and I have the CD-ROM connected to my NeXT. Is there any way to just create the disk with this setup? I know that DOS machines are picky about what's on sector 0, track 0, so I'm having reservations about just dumping the base system onto the hard drive. Could I modify the buildisk script to copy the necessary files from the CR-ROM to the SCSI drive? Any suggestions would be much appreciated. Thanks! -jason _________________________________________________________________ Jason Fosback, User Support Analyst | No sir, I didn't like it ---- University of Oregon ---- | -R&S Internet: jfosback@oregon.uoregon.edu | Star Trek: NeXT mail: jfosback@darmok.uoregon.edu | The NeXT Generation...
From: blake015@mc.duke.edu (Denise Blakeley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Anyone have a fat Perl for 3.1? Message-ID: <17408@news.duke.edu> Date: 7 Jul 93 20:34:41 GMT Sender: news@news.duke.edu Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject line says it all--if you've successfully built Perl as a fat binary under 3.1, could you please email it to me? (NeXTMail is fine.) We've encountered some problems in setting up the configure correctly, and we're running short of time. Thanks in advance-- Denise -- Denise Blakeley | PROGRAM, tr. v., An activity similar Duke Med Center Info Systems | to banging one's head against a wall, Durham, NC | but with fewer opportunities for (919) 282-6468 W | reward. blake015@mc.duke.edu |
From: bill@az.stratus.com (Bill Everts) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NSI 486 Install Problems Date: 7 Jul 1993 22:12:21 GMT Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA Message-ID: <21fho5$cfu@transfer.stratus.com> References: <lp$@byu.edu> In article <lp$@byu.edu> writes: > ----------------- NeXTSTEP 486 Installation problems ----------------------- > > I'm having problems installing NSI on my system. I get to the prompt: > > For some reason it doesn't seem to be properly recognizing my hard disk. I > don't know where the IRQ 7 business is comming from either. > I see that message all the time too but in my case it is benign. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Everts bill_everts@vos.stratus.com Stratus Computer, Inc 1-800-828-8513 Telecom CAC 4455 E Camleback Rd #115-a Phoenix AZ 85018
From: blake015@mc.duke.edu (Denise Blakeley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Message to Benjamin Cline (others please ignore) Message-ID: <17419@news.duke.edu> Date: 8 Jul 93 00:36:47 GMT Sender: news@news.duke.edu Followup-To: comp.sys.next.programmer Benjamin-- Your e-mail to me got mangled together with someone else's message; I not only didn't get the message body, I didn't even get your e-mail address! Please re-send. Denise -- Denise Blakeley | PROGRAM, tr. v., An activity similar Duke Med Center Info Systems | to banging one's head against a wall, Durham, NC | but with fewer opportunities for (919) 282-6468 W | reward. blake015@mc.duke.edu |
From: deluxe@well.sf.ca.us (Don Hurter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: CDPlayer.app Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc Date: 8 Jul 1993 00:47:23 GMT Organization: Babbage MacroSystems Distribution: world Message-ID: <deluxe-070793174204@17.220.88.2> References: <C9r07t.Cw7@tigadmin.ml.com> <1993Jul7.170716.81395@austin.onu.edu> I have an Apple CD-300 connected up to a NeXTstation, and when I insert an audio CD it automatically launches the CDPlayer under 3.1. Everything works fine. Also, Photo CD's also work, using the PhotoAlbum.app (or whatever it's called). I'm wondering if NeXTSTEP knows enough to run the CD-300 at double speed, or do I need a special driver for this? I can't tell from observation whether the player is currently running at 1X or 2X. __________________________________________________________________________ I neither confirm nor deny the presence of any disclaimer at this juncture
From: deluxe@well.sf.ca.us (Don Hurter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: CDPlayer.app Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc Date: 8 Jul 1993 00:49:08 GMT Organization: Babbage MacroSystems Distribution: world Message-ID: <deluxe-070793174842@17.220.88.2> References: <C9r07t.Cw7@tigadmin.ml.com> <1993Jul7.170716.81395@austin.onu.edu> Also I should mention that the SCSI ID setting on my drive is set to 3. __________________________________________________________________________ I neither confirm nor deny the presence of any disclaimer at this juncture
From: matthews@is-next.umd.edu (Mike Matthews) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Electronic App Wrapper Date: 8 Jul 1993 01:15:10 GMT Organization: University Of Maryland, College Park, MD Message-ID: <21fseu$b5b@umd5.umd.edu> References: <1993Jul7.032336.22039@leland.stanford.edu> In article <1993Jul7.032336.22039@leland.stanford.edu> spagiola@leland.stanford.edu writes: >People have been wondering where the 2nd EAW was. >Well, mine arrived in the mail today. >And might I add its a superb job; great art, great music, more demos >and brochures, and _much_ faster than the first EAW. I second that. I'll have to wait and see it on a color machine before I make final judgement :-) but it's pretty cool. Responsiveness is much faster, and the CD just seems to be laid out in a more efficient manner. Now, if only my other hard drive will show up... >Stefano Pagiola ------ Mike Matthews, matthewm@sgate.com (NeXTmail accepted) ------ Brain fried -- Core dumped
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: mpro-request@netcom.com Subject: MAILING LIST: MicroPhone Pro for NEXTSTEP Message-ID: <thompsonC9tqx4.5KF@netcom.com> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc Sender: thompson@netcom.com (Eric Thompson) Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1993 02:29:27 GMT Hi, I have started a mailing list devoted to MicroPhone Pro for NEXTSTEP. Its purpose is to discuss the software, and to share hints, scripts, and other information with fellow users. Anonymous ftp will available for archives, scripts, etc. If you use MicroPhone Pro for NEXTSTEP, this is the place to be :-) SUBSCRIBE TO: mpro-request@netcom.com Eric Thompson MPRO Mailing List Manager
Message-ID: <zp$@byu.edu> Date: Wed, 7 Jul 93 22:39:17 MDT From: pmarc@wyoming.et.byu.edu (Paul M. Cardon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy Distribution: world References: <R1Za7B1w165w@mindvox.phantom.com> <To1a7B1w165w@mindvox.phantom.com> Organization: Brigham Young University, Provo UT USA Subject: Re: NS Serial Port Drivers. HELLO??? Anyone home???? Keywords: broken garbage non-responsive company chapter 11 In article <To1a7B1w165w@mindvox.phantom.com>, artek@mindvox.phantom.com (Ardal Technologies) writes: >deadboy@mindvox.phantom.com (The Dead) writes: > >> artek@mindvox.phantom.com (Ardal Technologies) writes: >> >> (of the Artek, Ardal and Amran family of consultants to Shysters, Thieves >> and Profiteers, and all around annoying group of people ;-) Pbbblt) >> >> >> Joseph is a putz, I can say that because my future employment will >> never hinge on him liking me. Sadly he's right, people. > >Sir this constitutes libel and defamation of character and is utterly >uncalled for, especially from an individual who does not even use his name >online and whose sole contribution appears to be a near-endless series of >posts about drug use and programming obscure unix security tricks and >methods of crashing computer networks. > >My lawyers will draft a formal response and deliver them to you care of >MindVox, who I'm sure will be pleased to know they are accomplices to your >attack upon my person. No sir, that constitutes a flame. Although I, and I'm sure others, agree that this may not be the place for this kind of bickering, I just say lighten up. You may be correct about the character of 'The Dead' -- I don't know him personally. However, anybody who would make the kind of statement you did in return probably deserves the label 'putz'. He could have called you much worse. If anything he wants a reaction and you could show some maturity by reacting in a more reasonable manner. Paul Cardon
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.software From: dav@well.sf.ca.us (Paul Davilon) Subject: Buggy SERIAL PORT Drivers Message-ID: <C9txvo.A6J@well.sf.ca.us> Summary: boom crash Keywords: junk Sender: news@well.sf.ca.us Organization: The Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link, Sausalito, CA Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1993 04:59:47 GMT Unfortunately I too am stuck in the same situation that has apparently hit so many others here. My main source of information regarding NeXT has been MindVox and The WELL, along with comp.sys.next, which I unfortunately did not read often enough, or perhaps there were no posting prior to those of the last few weeks about the serial ports. Though (justifiably) angry, Mr. Mercke's (sp) well-stated letter summed up the way I'm feeling right now better than I could do it myself, so I'll let it stay with that and add in that I find it ridiculous that FREEWARE such as Linux or BSDI *CAN* have working, robust drivers, cross all kinds of platforms while NeXT says "A couple of weeks for testing." NeXT I would say to you: Make that as fast as you can, nothing you possibly release could be worse than it is. They plain and simple don't work. I am very slightly pacified by at least some response, but if I don't see some ACTION in the form of updated drivers VERY soon, then I'm going to start writing some letters and having conversations with people I consult for, starting with Viacom and moving on to the NeXT forums on MindVox and WELL, and ending with a direct mailing of every single person covering technology and Cyberspace issues on both Vox and WELL, and their number is quite large. Judging by the heat here I'm going to have a lot of comiserators happy to do the same thing. This is not a threat, its a statement of action. If as you claim NeXT is doing, and some new serial drivers come out, I'll be writing the same group of people letters, only this time it'll be how wonderful NeXT is to customer response, and how quickly they solve problems once they are made aware of them. Please give me the opportunity to say nice things, and give your customers what they paid for in the first place. Paul Pardon the typographic errors, I have grown used to cut and pasting and now I'm running Windows and using vi. dav@well.sf.ca.us dav@mindvox.phantom.com
From: mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Alex) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NS Serial Port Drivers. HELLO??? Anyone home???? Message-ID: <88316@ut-emx.uucp> Date: 8 Jul 93 03:14:43 GMT References: <uqya7B2w165w@mindvox.phantom.com> Sender: news@ut-emx.uucp Organization: Klatu Verata Necktie In article <uqya7B2w165w@mindvox.phantom.com> Ardal Technologies, artek@mindvox.phantom.com writes: >This is the tail end of the 20th century, NETWORKING is very important, >people need to hook their computers together and use them to access other >computers. They can't do this with NeXTSTEP 3.1 because the serial >drivers DO NOT WORK. What kind of networking are you talking about? From what I have heard, all of the Ethernet networking services work just fine. SLIP and modem connections faster than 9600 are broken, yes. I personally would rather have a NeXT with broken serial drivers which can be fixed than Windows (in any of its flavors) which probably will only get worse. ---------------------------------- Alex Currier HotLine Technical Support Texas Union MicroCenter, UT Austin ----------------------------------
Newsgroups: andi.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc From: bill@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Strehl) Subject: New membership benefits and membership info for ANDI Message-ID: <C9t4At.DzG@nextsrv1.andi.org> Keywords: ANDI, NeXTSTEP Sender: usenet@nextsrv1.andi.org (usenet) Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1993 18:20:52 GMT We are pleased to announce the addition of two new membership categories: General: An excellent, low cost way to stay informed on events affecting the NeXTSTEP community. and Sustaining: Intended for those companies seeking to maximize their investment in NeXTSTEP technology and who want the fastest method to get the largest return on their investment. In addition, all membership categories have new enhanced benefits. To retrieve membership info: ftp to ftp.andi.org. You find membership info in /pub or send mail to: membership@nextsrv1.andi.org Note: Information can be sent in NeXTmail format or Faxed. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ To keep you better informed we beginning publishing in July: "FocalPoint", the monthly newsletter for NeXTSTEP users "breakpoint", the bi-monthly journal for developers "Objectivitie", the quarterly technical journal for developers and users To contact us, just send mail to the publication_name@nextsrv1.andi.org (for example FocalPoint@nextsrv1.andi.org) +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ To help you reach new markets we are going to be exhibiting annually at the following shows: PC Expo - New York City PC Expo - Chicago Unix Expo - New York City FedUNIX - Washington, DC Unix Reseller - Dallas, TX We are expanding into vertical markets that are not currently targeted by any NeXTSTEP developers such as: International Association of Jazz Educators - January (7000 members) Meeting Planners International - December (10,000 members) For more information, just send mail to marketing@nextsrv1.andi.org +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ We are expanding our marketing efforts in the following areas: Co-op advertising in industry magazines and on CD-ROMS Direct mail campaigns target at existing NeXTSTEP customers and non-NeXTSTEP customers. Literature distribution at trade shows. ANDI resource catalog distributed at tradeshows. Email infoserver available to members to provided interested parties with up-to-date product information and product demos. For more information, just send mail to marketing@nextsrv1.andi.org +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ We are doing our part to insure the success of NeXTSTEP. We hope you will join us. --- Regards, Bill Strehl Executive Director ANDI - Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International 9921 Woodburn Road Silver Spring, Maryland (MD) 20901-2730 reply to:bill@andi.org On CompuServe: 73130,3135 telephone:301-681-0613
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: kent@infoserv.com Subject: Re: CDPlayer.app Message-ID: <C9s6Dn.1Fv@infoserv.com> Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard) Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting References: <C9r07t.Cw7@tigadmin.ml.com> Distribution: na Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1993 06:08:11 GMT In article <C9r07t.Cw7@tigadmin.ml.com> kunal@passion.pilot.dmg.ml.com (Kunal Singh) writes: #Has anyone successfully used this application ? # I use it all the time. I installed from the 3.0 CD-ROM as root. I have had no problems. I have a NeXT CD-ROM drive. Kent -- /* K.L. Shephard Consulting is my company. Infoserv only delivers my mail. */ /* Please direct mail to kent@infoserv.com other adresses may not work. */
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: kent@infoserv.com Subject: Re: NeXT 030 Cubes Message-ID: <C9tzCx.2Fy@infoserv.com> Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard) Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting References: <15984@blue.cis.pitt.edu> Distribution: na Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1993 05:31:45 GMT In article <15984@blue.cis.pitt.edu> gmdst4+@pitt.edu (Gretchen M Dick) writes: # #What is the relative preformace of a NeXT 030 cube vs a NeXT Mono Slab #(non-turbo)? # #Is it merely a matter of MIPS or is Video and I/O affected also. Are #there also Hardware limitations? Will some software not compile/work on #the 030s? It's just a matter of mips. Kent -- /* K.L. Shephard Consulting is my company. Infoserv only delivers my mail. */ /* Please direct mail to kent@infoserv.com other adresses may not work. */
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: mzeller@gwdu03.gwdg.de (Meinrad Zeller) Subject: Re: NeXT 030 Cubes Message-ID: <946EBEMS@gwdu03.gwdg.de> Sender: news@gwdu03.gwdg.de (USENET News System) Organization: GWDG, Goettingen References: <15984@blue.cis.pitt.edu> Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1993 09:06:54 GMT Gretchen M Dick (gmdst4+@pitt.edu) wrote: : What is the relative preformace of a NeXT 030 cube vs a NeXT Mono Slab : (non-turbo)? : Is it merely a matter of MIPS or is Video and I/O affected also. Are : there also Hardware limitations? Will some software not compile/work on : the 030s? Having both a 030 cube and a 040 station (Thanks Ross!!) on my desk I think I'm able to give some advice. First, plain computing performance is s.th between 4:1 and 6:1. Video performance is about 2.5:1 - but still better than many (most?) NSI systems. Also I/O performance seems to be slower, though its difficult to say how much slower. You definitely need at least 16 MB of RAM, which is no problem, cause you have 16 slots and 1 MB simms are very cheap to get - especially in the NeXT community :-). Some further drawbacks: - no floppy disk - serial line lacks harware flow control Advantages: - this great old keyboard with the \ and | at the right place. I loovve it! - OD - 3 m monitor cable - its the 'real' NeXT In my opinion a cube is o.k. as long as you don't want to do serious NS programming or need to use any computing intensive software like in image processing. I used to work with Mathematica, TeX, Framemaker and X windows on my cube and it was o.k. But programming was not very much fun - turn around times and debugging was too bad. Hope this helps Meinrad -- Meinrad Zeller Foehrenweg 1 D-3400 Goettingen Tel.: +49-551-300095 Email: mzeller@gwdg.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: jamast00@bigdaddy.mik.uky.edu (John A. Mastrolia) Subject: Re: More Info About Mathematica for NSFIP Message-ID: <jamast00.742129697@mik.uky.edu> Keywords: Cheaper?? Sender: news@ms.uky.edu (USENET News System) Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences References: <C9Koov.FCr@news.iastate.edu> Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1993 11:08:17 GMT In <C9Koov.FCr@news.iastate.edu> tlm@feynman.scl.ameslab.gov (Dr. T. L. Marchioro II) writes: >Recently there has been some discussion about the availability of >Mathematica for NSFIP, with John Michopoulos (sorry if I got the spelling >wrong Yanni :) being kind enough to post that the price would be $1245 and >$995 academic. Personally, I consider these prices to be really "out of [Munch] >Finally, she said 2.2 for the NeXT should start shipping within a couple >of weeks (actually, she'd been told it would ship right after the 4th, >but cautioned me that "they usually miss those goals by a couple weeks." >Seems to be the golden rule of software :) Just read the other day in PC Week that Mathmatica Inc. has filed Chapter 11 protection from creditors. Guess those high prices kept paying customers away! Perhaps they will have the insight change their ways. -- John A. Mastrolia (Politically, Fashionably, and Aerodynamically Incorrect) jamast00@mik.uky.edu outland!jmast@ms.uky.edu University of Kentucky
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: jblue@ocotillo.mitre.org (Jason D. Blue) Subject: Re: CDPlayer.app Message-ID: <1993Jul8.121132.24251@linus.mitre.org> Sender: news@linus.mitre.org (News Service) Organization: The MITRE Corporation References: <C9s6Dn.1Fv@infoserv.com> Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1993 12:11:32 GMT To the two people who are trying to get the CDPlayer working: 1. The sound does not come out of the NeXT. You have to connect a cable with a standard mini-stereo plug (like a walkman's) to the front of the CD drive, or use a cable with RCA plugs (like most home stereo equipment) and connect to the back of the CD drive. Then connect the cable to external speakers, preferebly through an amplifier. 2. For the CDPlayer application to start up automatically when you insert an audio CD you have to make sure you got two things stright: a. Load from the Demonstrations Package (it could be Developer's - I am not sure) the files /usr/filesystems/cdaudio.fs/cdaudio.util and /usr/filesystems/cdaudio.fs/cdaudio.device. b. Configure the CD drive's SCSI ID so that it appears as sd1. If the above does not do the trick, reconfigure the CD drive's SCSI ID so that it appears as the next device after the boot drive (i.e. if you boot from sd2, set the CD drive to appear as sd3). -- Jason D. Blue NeXT Network and Systems Administrator The MITRE Corporation, McLean, VA jblue@mitre.org (NeXT Mail Encouraged!) TIP#081
From: cjp+@pitt.edu (Casimir J Palowitch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: CDPlayer.app Message-ID: <16090@blue.cis.pitt.edu> Date: 8 Jul 93 13:39:34 GMT References: <C9s6Dn.1Fv@infoserv.com> <1993Jul8.121132.24251@linus.mitre.org> Sender: news+@pitt.edu Organization: University of Pittsburgh In addition to the things mentioned below, in order to get the CDPlayer.app to start up upon insertion of CD, you need to set, in Workspace Preferences, the Public Window Server to On. In article <1993Jul8.121132.24251@linus.mitre.org> jblue@mitre.org (Jason D. Blue) writes: => =>To the two people who are trying to get the CDPlayer working: => =>1. The sound does not come out of the NeXT. You have to -> connect a cable with a standard mini-stereo plug (like a walkman's) to the => front of the CD drive, or use a cable with RCA plugs (like most home => stereo equipment) and connect to the back of the CD drive. Then connect => the cable to external speakers, preferebly through an amplifier. -=> =>=2. For the CDPlayer application to start up automatically when you insert => an audio CD you have to make sure you got two things stright: => a. Load from the Demonstrations Package (it could be Developer's - I am => not sure) the files /usr/filesystems/cdaudio.fs/cdaudio.util and => /usr/filesystems/cdaudio.fs/cdaudio.device. => b. Configure the CD drive's SCSI ID so that it appears as sd1. => =>If the above does not do the trick, reconfigure the CD drive's SCSI =>ID so that it appears as the next device after the boot drive (i.e. if =>you boot from sd2, set the CD drive to appear as sd3). => >-- >Jason D. Blue >NeXT Network and Systems Administrator >The MITRE Corporation, McLean, VA >jblue@mitre.org (NeXT Mail Encouraged!) >TIP#081 -- ** Casey Palowitch - cjp+@pitt.edu UWSA #570881 ** ** Networked Information Services Group / Technical Services ** ** U. of Pittsburgh Library Systems // NeXTSTEP... ** ** ...the most respected piece of software on the planet BYTE10/92 **
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: eboltz@acoustica.mrd.bldrdoc.gov (Eric S. Boltz) Subject: Re: More Info About Mathematica for NSFIP Message-ID: <C9uLJB.KFx@dove.nist.gov> Sender: news@dove.nist.gov Organization: NIST References: <jamast00.742129697@mik.uky.edu> Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1993 13:30:47 GMT In article <jamast00.742129697@mik.uky.edu> jamast00@bigdaddy.mik.uky.edu (John A. Mastrolia) writes: > Just read the other day in PC Week that Mathmatica Inc. has filed Chapter 11 > protection from creditors. Guess those high prices kept paying customers > away! Perhaps they will have the insight change their ways. > I read that too BUT! Mathematica THE PROGRAM is made and sold by Wolfram Inc., NOT Mathematica Inc. From the back of a Mathematica manual: "Mathematica is no associated with Mathematica, Inc., Mathematica Policy Research, Inc., or MathTech, Inc. -- Eric S. Boltz, M.S.E. *eboltz@nist.gov* Materials Research Engineer eboltz@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu National Institute of Standards and Technology NeXTMail Accepted (Ph.D. Candidate, Johns Hopkins University) My views, opinions and statements in no way reflect those of the U.S. Gov't, the U.S. Department of Commerce or NIST.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: lloyd@world.std.com (Chris Lloyd) Subject: Re: NeXT 030 Cubes Message-ID: <C9utwL.D6@world.std.com> Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA References: <15984@blue.cis.pitt.edu> <946EBEMS@gwdu03.gwdg.de> Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1993 16:31:31 GMT In article <946EBEMS@gwdu03.gwdg.de> mzeller@gwdu03.gwdg.de (Meinrad Zeller) writes: >Some further drawbacks: > > - no floppy disk You can get a PL/I SCSI drive. > - serial line lacks harware flow control <plug warning> This can be remedied, in part, with our product TTYDSP, which converts the DSP into a serial port, gives you hardware flow control, and performance way beyond what an '040 can without it. Send email to yrrid@world.std.com for more info on this and our other products. -- :: Christopher Lloyd :: Yrrid Incorporated :: lloyd@world.std.com :: :: LOUDER...LOUDER... ::
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: v_white@ece.wisc.edu (Victor White) Subject: Black Printer FAQ? Organization: University of Wisconsin-Madison Distribution: usa Date: 8 Jul 93 11:30:00 CDT Message-ID: <1993Jul8.113001.26848@doug.cae.wisc.edu> I recently picked up a used black printer for my cube. I use it in spurts, and so do need to keep it warm all the time. A while back I remeber people talking about remotely powering it up and down, adding sound effects so it yells at you when it's out of paper and all those fun things. Is there a FAQ on how to set it up and manage it? Thanks for any help, Victor White v_white@janus.ece.wisc.edu
From: srosie@umich.edu (Steven S. Rosenblum) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: CDPlayer.app Date: 8 Jul 1993 16:45:15 GMT Organization: University of Michigan -- Ann Arbor Message-ID: <21hiur$n8@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> References: <C9s6Dn.1Fv@infoserv.com> <1993Jul8.121132.24251@linus.mitre.org> Originator: srosie@whitman.ccs.itd.umich.edu In article <1993Jul8.121132.24251@linus.mitre.org> jblue@mitre.org (Jason D. Blue) writes: > >To the two people who are trying to get the CDPlayer working: [CHOMP] > >2. For the CDPlayer application to start up automatically when you insert > an audio CD you have to make sure you got two things stright: [CHOMP] > b. Configure the CD drive's SCSI ID so that it appears as sd1. > BUT WHY????? As someone who's had to play around with scsi id's to get my system to work, I don't understand what NeXT could've done that would make any of the sd# devices different from one another (except for the boot drive). If anyone out there has a good understanding of devices in UNIX, I would much appreciate an explanation as to why setting devices to different numbers has a significant effect on the system. thanks in advance, steve "rosie" rosenblum srosie@umich.edu
From: isbell@cats.ucsc.edu (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Date: 8 Jul 1993 16:54:22 GMT Organization: Cubic Solutions - NeXT software development and consulting Message-ID: <21hjfuINNs61@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> References: <93188.114823CADER@auvm.american.edu> In article <93188.114823CADER@auvm.american.edu> <CADER@auvm.american.edu> writes: >Does anyone know what has happened to TECOR? How can equipment we purchased be > serviced. If they went out of business...who has taken over from them? TECOR is no more. Larry Cohen, formerly at TECOR, is now at Peripheral Solutions here in Santa Cruz where TECOR used to be. Larry has set up a NeXT test bench so he can verify that new drives are NeXT-compatible. Peripheral Solutions' prices seem as good as TECOR's. So give Larry a call at 800-ALL-DISK or send him email at psi_eng@netcom.com. I am a satisfied customer having recently purchased an external drive for my Cube. -- Art Isbell Cubic Solutions NeXT Registered Developer NEXTSTEP software development and consulting NeXTmail: isbell@cats.UCSC.EDU Voice: (408)335-1154 USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: (408)335-2515
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: lloyd@world.std.com (Chris Lloyd) Subject: Re: CDPlayer.app Message-ID: <C9uywt.LvC@world.std.com> Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA References: <C9s6Dn.1Fv@infoserv.com> <1993Jul8.121132.24251@linus.mitre.org> <21hiur$n8@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1993 18:19:40 GMT In article <21hiur$n8@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> srosie@umich.edu writes: >In article <1993Jul8.121132.24251@linus.mitre.org> jblue@mitre.org (Jason D. Blue) writes: >>To the two people who are trying to get the CDPlayer working: >> >>2. For the CDPlayer application to start up automatically when you insert >> an audio CD you have to make sure you got two things stright: >[CHOMP] >> b. Configure the CD drive's SCSI ID so that it appears as sd1. >> > BUT WHY????? > >As someone who's had to play around with scsi id's to get my system to work, >I don't understand what NeXT could've done that would make any of the sd# >devices different from one another (except for the boot drive). >If anyone out there has a good understanding of devices in UNIX, I would >much appreciate an explanation as to why setting devices to different >numbers has a significant effect on the system. I have two internal hard drives, sd0 and sd1. My NeXT external CD-ROM player is configured as SCSI-ID 6 and is sd2. CDPlayer works fine for me, it autolaunches and behaves perfectly running NS 3.1 on black hardware. I'll be bold and say whether it is sd1 has nothing to do with it. Now I want a multi-disk drive and player :) -- :: Christopher Lloyd :: Yrrid Incorporated :: lloyd@world.std.com :: :: LOUDER...LOUDER... ::
Control: cancel <1993Jun23.133832.4181@Happy-Man.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: irving@Happy-Man.com (Irving_Wolfe) Subject: cancel <1993Jun23.133832.4181@Happy-Man.com> Message-ID: <1993Jul8.170826.25438@Happy-Man.com> Organization: Happy Man Corp., Vashon Island, WA 98070-7399 Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1993 17:08:26 GMT cancel <1993Jun23.133832.4181@Happy-Man.com> in newsgroup comp.sys.next.misc -- Irving_Wolfe@Happy-Man.com 206/463-9399 x101 fax 206/463-9255 Happy Man Corp. 4410 SW Pt. Robinson Rd., Vashon, WA 98070-7399 We publish SOLID VALUE for the intelligent investor. NextMail OK Info. packet free. Send POSTAL address: Solid-Value@Happy-Man.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: irving@Happy-Man.com (Irving_Wolfe) Subject: Re: Conversion: .jpg to .tiff in 3.1 Message-ID: <1993Jul8.170817.25404@Happy-Man.com> Organization: Happy Man Corp, 4410 Pt Robinson, Vashon, WA 98070 206/463-9399 References: <1993Jun22.062512.7289@Happy-Man.com> <1993Jun23.133832.4181@Happy-Man.com> Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1993 17:08:17 GMT >In <1993Jun22.062512.7289@Happy-Man.com> irving@Happy-Man.com (Irving_Wolfe) writes: >>I just installed 3.1 (black) and discovered that I can no longer >>use ImageViewer 0.9e to convert .jpg image files to .tiff files. >>The SaveAs panel no longer allows selection of tiff, reverting >>(from any setting, actually) to jpeg. >>What other tool is available to do this conversion? >I did not receive any information on other tools to do this >conversion. If anyone else can help, I'd still be interested in >that. Since my posting and summary, I have received more information. A new version of ImageViewer no longer has the problem cited. Also, the pipe "djpeg JPGFILE | pnmtotiff > TIFFFILE" does the trick very well without requiring any interaction or mouse-events, so is especially nice when there are many files to convert. I found a (somewhat strange but usable) version of djpeg inside ImageViewer; I believe it is also available as part of the JPEG source code distribution. pnmtotiff is part of the pbmplus package, available on various archive sites. pnmtotiff gives me silly warning messages about "too many colors, using RGB" when used this way, but appears to do the job well despite them under 3.0, so I've not bothered to investigate the messages. Under 3.1, it seems to trigger the bug that fills up the process table; three or four runs of pnmtotiff and the machine will have to be rebooted. Since this is a known 3.1 bug, I'm not blaming pnmtotiff, just warning you. -- Irving_Wolfe@Happy-Man.com 206/463-9399 x101 fax 206/463-9255 Happy Man Corp. 4410 SW Pt. Robinson Rd., Vashon, WA 98070-7399 We publish SOLID VALUE for the intelligent investor. NextMail OK Info. packet free. Send POSTAL address: Solid-Value@Happy-Man.com
From: pett@socrates.ucsf.edu (Eric Pettersen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Edit expansion dictionary Summary: docs != app Keywords: expansion Message-ID: <pett.742103369@cgl.ucsf.edu> Date: 8 Jul 93 03:49:29 GMT Sender: news@cgl.ucsf.edu (USENET News System) Organization: UCSF Computer Graphics Lab I'm running 3.0 and trying to use the expansion dictionary in Edit. The expansion dictionary panel does not correspond to the on- or offline documentation. The 3.0 release notes say that: "The user interface for the expansion dictionary was completely overhauled. The escape key expansion now works correctly with European characters." No futher explanation is given as to how the new interface works. By analogy to the old interface, I seem to be able to enter keys and values, but typing the key followed by escape in an Edit window produces nothing but a system beep. Has the method of invoking the expansion changed along with the interface? I perused the latest NeXTanswers and found nothing applicable. I even looked in the docs that come with the NS/FIP developer cube and they still document the old expansion dictionary interface. What's the secret to getting the expansion dictionary to work? Eric Pettersen UCSF Computer Graphics Lab pett@cgl.ucsf.edu (NeXTmail ok)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: robocop@lehre24.informatik.Uni-Bremen.DE (Dirk Lehmann + Co) Subject: Mysterious Problem ! Message-ID: <1993Jul8.201648.18915@informatik.uni-bremen.de> Sender: robocop@lehre24 (Dirk Lehmann + Co) Organization: Universitaet Bremen Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1993 20:16:48 GMT Hello out there ! I have a big, big problem. A few day's ago I want to read some sheets of the NeXT-Documentation on my NeXTstation (NS 3.0), but the Librarian nor Edit.app nor the RTFInspector of the Workspace was able to display the graphics in the text. I only got a NXdefaulticon instead of a figure. I tried some other documents and generated one by myself, but this doesn't worked too. Then I switched from my regular account to an other account, where everything was displayed fine. Opening a rtfd-document on my regular account via NXhost from a shell makes Edit.app displaying all graphics. This event makes me erasing my default-database (~/.NeXT folder). After logging in again, I started Edit and all figures were in place. This might be the end, but it wasn't! After I have placed all the icons back in the dock, I got my deja-vu. No graphics ! After I erased the .NeXT-folder again, I placed an icon one by one and let Edit display a rtfd-document. When I placed ImageViewer in the dock, the same magic appeared. So I started again (get lost ~/.NeXT-folder !) and left my ImageViewer in /LocalApps/Graphics. For a few minutes I was happy : figures placed all around the text and everything on my regular account. But this moment of satisfaction didn't last long and all graphics I saw were NXdefaulticons. So ImageViewer is not to blame for this dilemma. Some other trials were also without effect.... Is there somebody out there who had this problem or is able to solve it ?? Thanks in advance Dirk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: wisinski@SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Dennis Wisinski) Subject: Re: Edit expansion dictionary Message-ID: <C9v7nK.BKn@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center References: <pett.742103369@cgl.ucsf.edu> Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1993 21:28:32 GMT In article <pett.742103369@cgl.ucsf.edu> pett@socrates.ucsf.edu (Eric Pettersen) writes: [lines deleted] > By analogy to the old interface, I seem to be able to > enter keys and values, but typing the key followed by > escape in an Edit window produces nothing but a system > beep. Has the method of invoking the expansion changed > along with the interface? [lines deleted] You have to turn on Emacs keybindings in the Global Options section of Preferences to get the escape key to work. (Pretty obvious, huh? ;-) -- Dennis Wisinski, Stanford Linear Accelerator Center P.O. Box 4349, MS 97 Stanford, CA 94309 wisinski@slac.stanford.edu (NeXT Mail)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy From: windemut@cumbne.bioc.columbia.edu (Andreas Windemuth) Subject: Re: 1.2GB diskdrives and Fax Modems on NeXT Message-ID: <1993Jul8.220308.19608@news.columbia.edu> Sender: usenet@news.columbia.edu (The Network News) Organization: Columbia University References: <1993Jul8.165344.37261@slate.mines.colorado.edu> Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1993 22:03:08 GMT In article <1993Jul8.165344.37261@slate.mines.colorado.edu> john@klein.Mines.Colorado.EDU (John Stockwell) writes: > Many thanks to all of those who replied to my > recent requests for info. One post was > regarding "fax modems for NeXTs" and > another post was regarding "1.2Gb diskdrives on NeXT". > > John Stockwell > Center for Wave Phenomena > Colorado School of Mines > Golden, CO 80401 > john@dix.mines.colorado.edu It would be a apropriate expression of your thankfulness if you posted a summary of those replies, so that others don't have to ask the same questions again. The net should work both ways, favor taken, favor given. This little piece of netiquette seems to have almost disappeared from the csn groups ... It make reading them less and less worthwhile. All you find are questions, hardly any answers. That is very unfortunate. Andreas Windemuth +-------------------------------------------------------------------- |Columbia University, Dept. of Biochemistry and Biophysics, BB-221 |630 West 168th St. | tel: (212)-305-6884, fax: 6926, NeXTmail |New York, NY 10032 | email: windemut@cumbne.bioc.columbia.edu +-------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------- > John Stockwell > Center for Wave Phenomena > Colorado School of Mines > Golden, CO 80401 > john@dix.mines.colorado.edu It would be a apropriate expression of your thankfulness if you posted a summary of those replies, so that others don't have to ask the same questions again. The net should work both ways, favor taken, favor given. This little piece of netiquette seems to have almost disappeared from the csn groups ... It make reading them less and less worthwhile. All you find are questions, hardly any answers. That is very unfortunate. Andreas Windemuth +-------------------------------------------------------------------- |Columbia University, Dept. of Biochemistry and Biophysics, BB-221 |630 West 168th St. | tel: (212)-305-6884, fax: 6926, NeXTmail |New York, NY 10032 | email: windemut@cumbne.bioc.columbia.edu +-------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------
From: wmorse@erasure_sl.cc.emory.edu (William Morse) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: CDPlayer.app Date: 9 Jul 1993 00:45:07 GMT Organization: Emory University, Dept of Math and CS Message-ID: <21if2jINN6bm@emory.mathcs.emory.edu> References: <16090@blue.cis.pitt.edu> In article <16090@blue.cis.pitt.edu> cjp+@pitt.edu (Casimir J Palowitch) writes: > > In addition to the things mentioned below, in order to get the > CDPlayer.app to start up upon insertion of CD, you need to set, in > Workspace Preferences, the Public Window Server to On. > > In article <1993Jul8.121132.24251@linus.mitre.org> jblue@mitre.org (Jason D. Blue) writes: > => > =>To the two people who are trying to get the CDPlayer working: > => > =>1. The sound does not come out of the NeXT. You have to > -> connect a cable with a standard mini-stereo plug (like a walkman's) to the > => front of the CD drive, or use a cable with RCA plugs (like most home > => stereo equipment) and connect to the back of the CD drive. Then connect > => the cable to external speakers, preferebly through an amplifier. > -=> > =>=2. For the CDPlayer application to start up automatically when you insert > => an audio CD you have to make sure you got two things stright: > => a. Load from the Demonstrations Package (it could be Developer's - I am > => not sure) the files /usr/filesystems/cdaudio.fs/cdaudio.util and > => /usr/filesystems/cdaudio.fs/cdaudio.device. > => b. Configure the CD drive's SCSI ID so that it appears as sd1. > => > =>If the above does not do the trick, reconfigure the CD drive's SCSI > =>ID so that it appears as the next device after the boot drive (i.e. if > =>you boot from sd2, set the CD drive to appear as sd3). > => > >-- > >Jason D. Blue > >NeXT Network and Systems Administrator > >The MITRE Corporation, McLean, VA > >jblue@mitre.org (NeXT Mail Encouraged!) > >TIP#081 > > > -- > ** Casey Palowitch - cjp+@pitt.edu UWSA #570881 ** > ** Networked Information Services Group / Technical Services ** > ** U. of Pittsburgh Library Systems // NeXTSTEP... ** > ** ...the most respected piece of software on the planet BYTE10/92 ** ------- Well, I did all that, but whenever I load CDPlayer.app, I get: cdutil: findDrive: Ioctl SGIOCSTL failed: 2 cdutil: findDrive: Permission denied cdutil: findDrive: Ioctl SGIOCSTL failed: 7 cdutil: findDrive: Permission denied Then it say CDPlayer.app can't find CD Rom drive. Any ideas? - William
From: mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Alex) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: CDPlayer.app Message-ID: <88322@ut-emx.uucp> Date: 8 Jul 93 23:07:46 GMT References: <16090@blue.cis.pitt.edu> Sender: news@ut-emx.uucp Organization: Klatu Verata Necktie In article <16090@blue.cis.pitt.edu> Casimir J Palowitch, cjp+@pitt.edu writes: >=>=2. For the CDPlayer application to start up automatically when you insert >=> an audio CD you have to make sure you got two things stright: >=> a. Load from the Demonstrations Package (it could be Developer's - I am >=> not sure) the files /usr/filesystems/cdaudio.fs/cdaudio.util and >=> /usr/filesystems/cdaudio.fs/cdaudio.device. >=> b. Configure the CD drive's SCSI ID so that it appears as sd1. >=> >=>If the above does not do the trick, reconfigure the CD drive's SCSI >=>ID so that it appears as the next device after the boot drive (i.e. if >=>you boot from sd2, set the CD drive to appear as sd3). I have all of this set up correctly. My NeXT CD-ROM is SCSI ID 2 (making it sd1) and I have the above mentioned files present on my HD. I have "public window server" checked as well. When I insert an audio CD without first launching CD Player.app it is ejected. CD Player.app is in my dock also. What am I missing? By the way, CD Player.app works fine if I launch it before inserting audio CD. ---------------------------------- Alex Currier HotLine Technical Support Texas Union MicroCenter, UT Austin ----------------------------------
From: dave@victim.suite.com (dave raymer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Single index for files on sonata ? Date: 8 Jul 1993 21:33:46 GMT Organization: suite software, dallas, anahiem Distribution: world Message-ID: <21i3rq$oo@bilbo.suite.com> Keywords: help I was wondering if anyone has a single index file, say something like the output of a find, for the sonata.cc.purdue.edu machine for anon ftp hierarchy ? thanks, dave. -- dave@suite.com The opinions expressed are mine, and may not reflect reality. My employer accepts the fact the I am psychotic. Professional soldiers are predictable, but the world is full of amateurs. Never forget that your weapon was made by the lowest bidder.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: eric%basilisk@src.honeywell.com (Eric D. Engstrom) Subject: Re: Directory Tiffs Message-ID: <C9vKyE.G63@basilisk.uucp> Keywords: icons, next-icon@bmt.gun.com, directory tiffs, fun, fun, fun Sender: eric@basilisk.uucp (Eric D. Engstrom) Organization: anonymous References: <69125@mimsy.umd.edu> Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1993 02:15:49 GMT stgeorge@wam.umd.edu (Jeeves) writes: > Where can I find more of these [directory icon] tiffs? alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore) responds: > cs.orst.edu Well, not to be rude here, but you could be a bit more specific. On cs.orst.edu, there is a reasonably up-to-date set of icons from the next-icon mailing list. They are in /pub/next/graphics/next-icon@gun.com. There is also a small set of (old) icons on the purdue archive (sonata.cc.purdue.edu) in /pub/next/graphics/ <somewhere>. I forget exactly where. Also, for those of you who don't know and are iterested, here is some info regarding the next-icon mailing list: ------ (snagged directly from the subscription notice): -------- ------ (hope you don't mind, Tim. :-) ------ NeXT-icon is a mailing list dedicated to the distribution of mail pictures, application and document icons, and cutting-edge .dir.tiff images. NeXT-icon accepts the following type of messages: 48 x 48 pixel application and document icons. 48 x 48 pixel .dir.tiff and .opendir.tiff images. 64 x 64 pixel mail pictures. Tricks and tips related to creating icon images. Software reviews and recommendations. New product announcements. NOTE: DO NOT subscribe to this list if occasionally-frivolous NeXTmail irritates you. DO NOT send nextlogin.tiff panels, sounds, or any images larger than 64 x 64 pixels. You may reach NeXT-icon through the following e-mail addresses: Administrative requests go to: next-icon-request@bmt.gun.com Submissions go to to: next-icon@bmt.gun.com ----------------------------- Eric +------------ Eric D. Engstrom, Honeywell Systems & Research Center, Mpls, MN, USA engstrom@src.honeywell.com -or- NeXT: eric%basilisk@src.honeywell.com < I eat from the four food groups: Barley, Hops, Yeast, Water >
From: pkron@corona.com (Peter Kron) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: tip/zmodem summary Message-ID: <113.UUL1.3#16216@corona.com> Date: Fri, 9 Jul 93 04:33:36 PDT Organization: Corona Design, Inc., Seattle, WA Thanks to various folks for responding on this...I don't have to switch to DOS anymore just to download files! I can actually download in the background...hey, is this the 90's or what! Anyway, to summarize: 1) csh doesn't work with tip for some unixy reason, but sh does so include the following in your .tiprc file SHELL=/bin/sh 2) I thought that I would be piping the remote data (from sz) INTO a a local process, and hence $| is appropriate. The suggestion was to instead first start sz remotely, then pipe the OUTPUT from rz to it using ~$. It seemed strange, but it worked. From my terminal session: [halcyon]:/d/pkorona/ftp> sz saystring.c **B00000000000000 ~$Local command? rz -1 rz ready. To begin transfer, type "sz file ..." to your modem program Incoming: saystring.c 6909 5411353327 100644 Receiving saystring.c BIN w 6144 ZMODEM CRC-32 Please read the manual page BUGS chapter! away for 22 seconds ! sz 3.24 5-16-93 finished. Note that rz needs the -1 argument to tell it to read from STDOUT. The version of rz that I found in the NeXT archives did not recognize this option, but it was a simple hack. Diff of change follows: korona> diff rz.c.orig rz.c 202a203 > int ReceiveOn=0; /* receive from STDIN */ 318a320,321 > case '1': > ReceiveOn=1; break; 682c685 < /* ioctl(0, TIOCFLUSH, 0); */ --- > /* ioctl(ReceiveOn, TIOCFLUSH, 0); */ 690c693 < Lleft=read(0, cdq=linbuf, Readnum); --- > Lleft=read(ReceiveOn, cdq=linbuf, Readnum); 713c716 < ioctl(0, TCFLSH, 0); --- > ioctl(ReceiveOn, TCFLSH, 0); 715c718 < lseek(0, 0L, 2); --- > lseek(ReceiveOn, 0L, 2); Hope this helps someone else. --------------- Peter Kron P.O. Box 51022 Corona Design, Inc. Seattle, WA 98115-1022 Peter_Kron@corona.com
From: k0s8160@chenext1.tamu.edu (Kenji Seto) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Nexs Grazer problems Date: 9 Jul 1993 12:26:51 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX Message-ID: <21jo6b$pp7@tamsun.tamu.edu> Greetings, I am running NewsGrazer (ver 72.2), and it has been working fine for months. Today, when I tried to read rec.food.cooking the application just dies, disappears, completely quits. I don't seem to have this problem with any other news group. I have tried reading this group on two other NeXTs (stations & turbos) and it happens on all machines repeatedly. Has anyone had a similar problem? Has my copy been corrupted in some way? I am going to try to get another from the FTP sites. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, -Kenji
From: k0s8160@chenext1.tamu.edu (Kenji Seto) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: NewsGrazer problems, addenum Date: 9 Jul 1993 12:36:54 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX Message-ID: <21jop6$qeh@tamsun.tamu.edu> I just downloaded v72.3 from sonata and it does the same thing. -Kenji
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: bstone@acs.ucalgary.ca (Blake Stone) Subject: Re: Edit expansion dictionary Message-ID: <Jul9.142923.13862@acs.ucalgary.ca> Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1993 14:29:23 GMT References: <pett.742103369@cgl.ucsf.edu> Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta Keywords: expansion > No futher explanation is given as to how the new interface > works. By analogy to the old interface, I seem to be able to > enter keys and values, but typing the key followed by escape in > an Edit window produces nothing but a system beep. Has the > method of invoking the expansion changed along with the > interface? No, but for some reason you need to have Emacs key bindings turned on for the expansion dictionary to work. If it isn't on, you get the system beep as described above. -- Blake W. Stone | DKW Systems Corporation Chief Technical Officer | A N[EXTSTEP,eXT[STEP,step,Step]] VAR bstone@acs.ucalgary.ca | | ... couldn't have been ME
From: k0s8160@chenext1.tamu.edu (Kenji Seto) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: NewsGrazer problems, cure for the problem Date: 9 Jul 1993 15:52:58 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX Message-ID: <21k48q$gdl@tamsun.tamu.edu> References: <21jop6$qeh@tamsun.tamu.edu> The recent problem I had with NewsGrazer arose from the fact that someone made a posting in the newsgroup, rec.food.cooking that had some sort of offending subject line that caused NewsGrazer to instantly crash. By restarting NewsGrazer repeatedly, and editing my .newsrc file I have determined that the offending article is somewhere between 42818 and 42838. The quick fix solution is to just hit [catch-up] before it gets to reading the subject line. I hope that the author of the code will try to investigate further. -Kenji
From: marcos@kaleida.com (Paul Marcos) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: CDPlayer.app Date: 9 Jul 1993 16:22:18 GMT Organization: Kaleida Labs, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <21k5vqINNkoo@golden.kaleida.com> References: <21if2jINN6bm@emory.mathcs.emory.edu> In article <21if2jINN6bm@emory.mathcs.emory.edu> wmorse@erasure_sl.cc.emory.edu (William Morse) writes: >cdutil: findDrive: Ioctl SGIOCSTL failed: 2 >cdutil: findDrive: Permission denied >cdutil: findDrive: Ioctl SGIOCSTL failed: 7 >cdutil: findDrive: Permission denied > >Then it say CDPlayer.app can't find CD Rom drive. Any ideas? > Yes, if you notice, the /usr/filesystem/cdaudio.fs/cdaudio.util gets installed with owner setuid on. So it MUST be installed as root! I suspect that you have it installed under your user id instead of root. This is what happened to me. Furthermore, you'll notice /NextDeveloper/Demos/CDPlayer.app/CDPlayer ALSO has the setuid bit set. So it too must be installed as root. I had all of the above problems and when I reinstalled the Demonstrations.pkg as root, everything worked like a charm. It sure would have been nice to add the little bit of code to check this out for the user and pop up an alert panel saying that it's installed incorrectly...I think Stuart does something like this. Anyway, this worked for me...mileage may vary. Good Luck. Paul ................................................................... Paul Marcos NeXTMail appreciated Kaleida Labs, Inc. marcos@kaleid.com ...................................................................
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: kgnome@cs.concordia.ca (S. Matis, 13th Generation) Subject: Mathematica ... ok, now it works. Message-ID: <C9wsGr.K7o@newsflash.concordia.ca> Sender: usenet@newsflash.concordia.ca (USENET News System) Organization: Wolfnet Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1993 17:55:39 GMT My Thanks to the many netfolk who helped me out. The answer to the 0$ question was : Install the Large Kernel if you wanna make it work. That's Ver. 2.0.4 of Mma running on Gold 3.0 of NEXTSTEP. Thanks Again, S. I. Matis, Hapilly 3DPlotting !
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: wkwong@lyapunov.eng.ohio-state.edu (Waihon Andrew Kwong) Subject: How to make packages? (.pkg files) Message-ID: <1993Jul9.190056.18822@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu> Sender: news@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu Organization: The Ohio State University Dept of Electrical Engineering Distribution: usa Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1993 19:00:56 GMT Hi, I'm trying to put together my own program as a multi-volume archive on floppy disks, is there any easy way to do this? Is there any reference teachs me how to make .pkg file for my own programs? Also, anybody familiar with the .chunk files?? How can I put them back together after I seperate them into several disks. Thanks in advance. Andy
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: mdstest1@bnr.ca Subject: NeXTSTEP 3.1 Upgrade and Phone # request Message-ID: <1993Jul9.181151.23154@bnr.ca> Sender: parkhill@nnepy220 (Rob Parkhill) Organization: Bell Northern Research Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1993 18:11:51 GMT Well, I just talked to a guy at NeXT and ordered my 3.1 upgrade. For those who care, the total cost is about CDN$287. That breaks down into: US$75 + US$35 shiiping for the Users package, and US$99 + US$15 shipping for the Developers package for a total of US$224. Mulitply that by 1.28 and I get CDN$286.72 They told me that the Dev package would be out "right away", and that the Users package is back-ordered 2 to 3 weeks (damn!). Anyone in the Ottawa area have a 3.1 CD they can lend me for a few days? :-) As for the request, I wanted to order the Edu CD-ROM from NeXT, but I've got 2 numbers... the 800 848 NeXT and the 800 677 NeXT number. Now, which one do I call to order said CD... I suppose trial and error might work here :-) later... Ert -- Ert Parkhill || Farfromthinkin || These are my opinions. All mine! My REAL email address || - 3 blondes in || NO! I won't share them. Don't even is: mdstest1@bnr.ca || a Volkswagen - || ask! Bwahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: ab@nova.cc.purdue.edu (Allen B) Subject: Re: NeXT 030 Cubes Message-ID: <C9ww51.Lrw@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> Sender: news@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (USENET News) Organization: Purdue University References: <946EBEMS@gwdu03.gwdg.de> Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1993 19:15:00 GMT In article <946EBEMS@gwdu03.gwdg.de> mzeller@gwdu03.gwdg.de (Meinrad Zeller) writes: >Some further drawbacks: > > - no floppy disk You can add a SCSI one, right? Actually, that's rhetorical because I know you can. > In my opinion a cube is o.k. as long as you don't want to do serious > NS programming or need to use any computing intensive software like > in image processing. And, of course, an '040 cube fixes that. How hard is it to upgrade an '030 cube to an '040 these days? I'd like to get the rest of ours done, but it's probably tough now. :-( ab
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: ab@nova.cc.purdue.edu (Allen B) Subject: Re: Single index for files on sonata ? Message-ID: <C9ww9E.MCJ@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> Sender: news@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (USENET News) Organization: Purdue University References: <21i3rq$oo@bilbo.suite.com> Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1993 19:17:37 GMT In article <21i3rq$oo@bilbo.suite.com> dave@victim.suite.com (dave raymer) writes: > I was wondering if anyone has a single index file, say something like the > output of a find, for the sonata.cc.purdue.edu machine for anon ftp > hierarchy ? There's one coming, along with a companion program to do some searching and other operations. I'm trying to finish some other projects here right now, but I hope to have that and many other Archive goodies done by next semester. Then all we'll need is more disk space. :-( ab
From: npratt@gecko.modsys (Nevin Pratt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: CDPlayer.app Date: 9 Jul 1993 20:49:19 GMT Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <21klkf$r5n@cnn.sim.es.com> References: <C9r07t.Cw7@tigadmin.ml.com> In article Cw7@tigadmin.ml.com, kunal@passion.pilot.dmg.ml.com (Kunal Singh) writes: > Has anyone successfully used this application ? > Yes, but ONLY on a *GENUINE* NeXT CD-ROM drive. Others are probably not audio-command equivalent, even if they have the same basic SONY mechanism. Nevin
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: lorinr@altsys.com (Lorin Rivers III) Subject: DIT, do they still exist? Message-ID: <1993Jul9.212036.15672@altsys.com> Organization: Altsys Corporation, Richardson, TX Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1993 21:20:36 GMT I have OnDuty, and it doesn't seem to work in NS 3.1. I tried to call them and the number is disconnected. Anyone got a clue? Digital Instrumentation Technology, Inc. 127 Eastgate Dr, #20500 Los Alamos, NM 87544 505-662-1459 Thanks! -- Lorin Rivers Lorin_Rivers@altsys.com Altsys Technical Support 214.680.2518 269 W. Renner Parkway NeXT Mail Expected Richardson, Texas 75080 I said it, not my boss
From: npratt@gecko.modsys (Nevin Pratt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: CDPlayer.app Date: 9 Jul 1993 23:22:17 GMT Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <21kuj9$r5n@cnn.sim.es.com> References: <21hiur$n8@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> In article n8@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu, srosie@umich.edu (Steven S. Rosenblum) writes: > In article <1993Jul8.121132.24251@linus.mitre.org> jblue@mitre.org (Jason D. Blue) writes: > > > >To the two people who are trying to get the CDPlayer working: > [CHOMP] > > > >2. For the CDPlayer application to start up automatically when you insert > > an audio CD you have to make sure you got two things stright: > [CHOMP] > > b. Configure the CD drive's SCSI ID so that it appears as sd1. > > > BUT WHY????? > > As someone who's had to play around with scsi id's to get my system to work, > I don't understand what NeXT could've done that would make any of the sd# > devices different from one another (except for the boot drive). Remember, CDPlayer is an unsupported demo app. It's probably some hack that some NeXT employee through together one night, then showed his buddies at work the next day. As a hack, any strange behavior is possible. Maybe the original author had his CD-ROM drive as '/dev/sd1', so he coded CDPlayer to expect that. Who knows. Who cares. It's just a hacked-up demo anyway (albiet, a cool one). Nevin
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc From: gery@ares.fdn.org (Gery Divry) Subject: ARES announces ZZVolume version 1.4 for NEXTSTEP 3.1 Message-ID: <1993Jul9.231841.28553@arakis.fdn.org> Sender: news@arakis.fdn.org Organization: ARES - Lyon, France. Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1993 23:18:41 GMT News For more information, contact: ARES +33 72 80 16 30 +33 72 80 16 32 fax zz@ares.fdn.org USA: Alembic Systems, Inc (303)799-6223 (303)799-1435 fax infos@alembic.com FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE LYON , France, the 25 of June 1993 : ARES announces the availability of ZZVolume version 1.4 for NEXTSTEP 3.1 Motorola and Intel with new prices. ZZVOLUME NEW PUBLIC PRICES (Prices are in USD, taxes excluded). Retail Price : 1995 $ Education Price : 998 $ Prices subject to change without notice. Taxes, shipping and handling charges are additional, and vary with the size of your order. ZZVolume (TM) is the first architectural CAD program available on NEXTSTEP. As a powerfull modelisation tool, ZZVolume enable to create 3D spaces at an incredible speed - including entire buildings - and to virtualy tour the spaces you create. As a professional tool for architects, interior designers, booth designers, facilities managers, and anyone who needs to quikly plan and present space, ZZVolume is indispensable. Features Included: - Multiples support for importation and exportation including 2D and 3D DXF-Autocad , EPS, export RIB formats to Solid Thinking (TM), Datalink to intuitiv'3D (TM). - Wireframe,shadows, Postscript vectorial hidden faces with or without edge rendering, direct Renderman connexion . - All transformation, creation and connexions benefits of real CAD precision and can be done in any view, even perspective view. - Multiple Views, Multi Layering (up to 4000 layers in a project), User definable tool palette. - Support for walls (blocks), polylines, splines, circles, openings, objects and automatic sized frames and sashes. Features in development : - Animation (walk through your house). - Light directly included in objects - Connexion to database ZZVolume features interactivity like you wouldn't believe....... Please contact ARES or Alembic for any informations
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: imj1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Imad M Jureidini) Subject: Can I use my NEXTSTEP/FIP drive as SCSI ID 2? Message-ID: <1993Jul10.020412.8437@news.columbia.edu> Sender: usenet@news.columbia.edu (The Network News) Organization: Columbia University Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1993 02:04:12 GMT Hello! After sweating for about a week, I finally succeeded in instlling NEXTSTEP. The only problem is that I had put the drive it was to be installed on at SCSI ID 0. However, I wish to use another drive at SCSI ID 0 from now on. Is there a way to get NEXTSTEP to boot at SCSI ID 2? I tried using the installation disk, using: fd()mach_kernel rootdev=sd2 but the system stops during the boot, leaving me in a shell prompt. Can I modify my configuration files somehow? Thanks a lot for any help! ******************************************************************************* * imj1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu Imad "Hexabyte" Jureidini * * The Ultimate Knight, Grand Priest of the Secrets of the Undefined. * *******************************************************************************
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: moose@svcdudes.com Subject: Re: NS Serial Port Drivers. HELLO??? Anyone home???? Message-ID: <1993Jul9.232444.3314@svcdudes.com> Sender: news@svcdudes.com Organization: Software Ventures, Inc. References: <To1a7B1w165w@mindvox.phantom.com> Distribution: na Date: Fri, 9 Jul 93 23:24:44 GMT As somebody who makes the telecomm product you all need to have to use the serial drivers, all I can say is chill out. NeXT has never considered Serial communications very important, but they are learning. They have the latest MicroPhone and are trying to make sure everything is working. And getting serial stuff working on all PC's is very tricky business. Hopefully, they will give me the serial driver, I'll put it on the disk, and August 1 (real tentative date), everybody can use their modems again. Meanwhile, let's all calm down and wait. Nobody likes to wait a month, but it's not going to kill anyone. -- Michael Rutman | moose@svcdudes.com Cubist | makes me a NeXT programmer Software Ventures | maker of MicroPhone Pro #include <std.disclaimer> | really offensive political statement
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: redmond@mindvox.phantom.com (David Redmond) Subject: Re: NS Serial Port Drivers. HELLO??? Anyone home???? Message-ID: <TuTg7B1w165w@mindvox.phantom.com> Sender: mindvox@mindvox.phantom.com (MindVox) Organization: [Phantom Access] / the MindVox system References: <1993Jul9.232444.3314@svcdudes.com> Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1993 09:36:04 GMT moose@svcdudes.com writes: > > As somebody who makes the telecomm product you all need to have to use the > serial drivers, all I can say is chill out. NeXT has never considered Serial > communications very important, but they are learning. They have the latest > MicroPhone and are trying to make sure everything is working. And getting > serial stuff working on all PC's is very tricky business. Hopefully, they wi > give me the serial driver, I'll put it on the disk, and August 1 (real > tentative date), everybody can use their modems again. As much as I hate to burst your bubble, the overwhelming need to run MicroPhone is probably NOT the reason that most people are upset that plugging a modem into the serial port makes the system crash. The main reason I know of that people in our department need to use modems for, are to network several floors of office space that are not yet wired for ethernet, using simple SLIP hookups, which give flexible and on-demand networking for many departments. I would imagine others have similar needs. From my own personal perspective I might get a little upset if I had a NeXT and wanted to login to Vox or CIS from home and couldn't do it, but that's not really the issue. Note that this is in no way a disparagement of MicroPhone which is in fact one of two programs (along with CABLES) that we will be looking at in the very near future, its simply the reality that running a terminal program is somewhere a distant second or third, behind running SLIP or shell scripts that make use of rz, sz, etc.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: dav@well.sf.ca.us (Paul Davilon) Subject: Re: NS Serial Port Drivers. HELLO??? Anyone home???? Message-ID: <C9xznI.4M1@well.sf.ca.us> Sender: news@well.sf.ca.us Organization: The Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link, Sausalito, CA References: <To1a7B1w165w@mindvox.phantom.com> <1993Jul9.232444.3314@svcdudes.com> Distribution: na Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1993 09:28:29 GMT moose@svcdudes.com wrote: : As somebody who makes the telecomm product you all need to have to use the : serial drivers, all I can say is chill out. NeXT has never considered Serial : communications very important, but they are learning. They have the latest : MicroPhone and are trying to make sure everything is working. And getting : serial stuff working on all PC's is very tricky business. Hopefully, they will : give me the serial driver, I'll put it on the disk, and August 1 (real : tentative date), everybody can use their modems again. : Meanwhile, let's all calm down and wait. Nobody likes to wait a month, but : it's not going to kill anyone. : -- : Michael Rutman | moose@svcdudes.com : Cubist | makes me a NeXT programmer : Software Ventures | maker of MicroPhone Pro : #include <std.disclaimer> | really offensive political statement
From: Cader@auvm.american.edu@f236.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Cader@auvm.american.edu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: HARD DISK POWER SUPPLY PROBLEMS Message-ID: <4380.2C3D8174@paranet.FIDONET.ORG> Date: 8 Jul 93 20:49:00 GMT Sender: ufgate@paranet.FIDONET.ORG (newsout1.26) Organization: FidoNet node 1:104/236 - MacCircles, Genesee CO -- Cader@auvm.american.edu - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Cader@auvm.american.edu@f236.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc From: bruce@TotSysSoft.com (Bruce Gingery) Subject: DFax and FaxModems (was Re: ``Object Oriented Software'') Message-ID: <1993Jul10.073049.2110@ToTSySSoft.com> Sender: bruce@ToTSySSoft.com Organization: Total System Software Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1993 07:30:49 GMT Time to clear up a couple of mis-statements which have appeared in this (csn.advocacy) newsgroup, and inform our present customers and customers to come. -- This message is in response to a migrating name thread last called:...and Telebit modems (was:...) 1. Presently Supported Hardware DFax is currently available in v1.04d - SupraFAXmodem and v1.04k - (BABT approved)-Mistral-FaxModem version. Each modem is supported to the capacity of the modem. The SupraFAXmodem version supports ``Adaptive Answering'' so the DFax-Supra version does too. The Mistral supports Fax OR Data on incoming calls. Outgoing calls on all versions can have any mix of fax and data calls, and intermixed with incoming calls according to setting. Either version may be set to only accept Fax or Data calls, and this behaviour can be varied by system-clock events if desired. With v1.04, an entirely new .app has been included which allows the Superuser, group `Staff' and `Wheel' or any user (handy for private systems) to override the default behaviour on a call-by-call basis, -- allowing receipt of faxen from broken or improperly desined fax equipment which does not produce the distinctive ``CNG'' tone with a manual override. Other administrative functions are also available to the superuser, including a temporary disable which effectively removes DFax interaction from the system for such things as debugging a SLIP connection with a single button -- off -- on. v1.04 also allows ``manual answer'' which allows for switching from voice to data or fax on an established voice call when both the faxmodem and telephone share the same line. ``Procedure interrupt'' (switching the other direction, from fax-to-voice) is under study. v1.04 app displays status on-dock with a backup explanation option when activity is noted but semi-distinct. The app must execute on the server, but may use a remote windowserver. DFax has been designed also, to allow timed behaviour, that-is background (cron) control of its behaviour - answer/no-answer, adaptive (on FaxModems which support adaptive answer), fax-only data-only according to the needs of the administrator. This function does require knowledgable setup. Other items are now GUI push-buttons & selections. v1.04d (Supra) will operate with NEXTSTEP v2.1/2.2, 3.0 or 3.1. v1.04k (Mistral) will operate with NEXTSTEP v3.0 or v3.1 DFax leaves the serial port UNOCCUPIED when it is not actually in use. The only allowance needed by other software is the sending of an ATZ, ATZ1 or other initialization strings desirable to share the modem for outgoing calls. (suid-uucp is also recommended for compatibility with uucp uses of the modem). DFax does leave the modem in a state ready to accept calls if the modem is sent an ATA, and the primary noticable dif- ference between the DFax initialization and other uses is that command-echo is turned off by DFax intialization to enhance processing. 2. Compatibility DFax has been shown compatible with SoftPC usage of the modem (i.e. Prodigy software) with uucp, MicroPhone-Pro, kermit, tip, cu, SLIP, and ppp. When SLIP/ppp is used, DFax is same-line and same-call compatible with telnet, ftp, rlogin, net-shared filesystems, remote Windowserver, gateway operations to other networks, and Net-Backup operations... In short the only thing we've been incompatible with was some Scanner/Tablet software which plays with the DFax port, even when it is installed for the other port. DFax receives outgoing faxen from normal Print-Panel option jobs, and places incoming faxen for the standard NEXTSTEP Fax Reader application. Background generation of faxes by non-GUI Unix tasks has been done, but is not directly supported by DFax or Total System Software. Incoming data calls may be from anything which would work with /usr/etc/getty answering the line, as it actually does receive all incoming (if configured) data calls, which normally passes the login response to the standard Unix login program. 3. New Version available to registered users We have established (307)-635-3751 v.42bis/14400 for a ``Public'' login on one of our NeXT systems. Similar to an anonymous-ftp login, send ``guest'' as the login id, and your E-Mail address at the password prompt. This allows download of a few `public' files, chat with TSS personnel (talk) when available, and quick on-system posting of E-Mail queries, including request for upgrade-login. Registered licensees of DFax, including both pre-release and later purchasers may (after obtaining a secondary login id & password) download the latest version ready to install on their system. (Other extensions are in development which will be free ONLY to pre-release customers). Download will be in one of the following manners Download timings are approximate: Z-Modem 4.5 min (sent with sz -Z) Kermit 9-12 min (default settings, no-swin) X- or Y-Modem 10-15 min ASCII Streamed/UU-Encoded 23-min. Terminal emulation supported defaults to NeXT's termcap XTERM, an excellent vt100 variant, compatible with C-Kermit Terminal.app, PC-Kermit, and nearly all vt-100/-102 -320... emulations. Prompts are presented for use of Z-Modem (or other protocols) under C-Kermit when selected for download. Registered licensees of DFax are invited to login (guest) or E-Mail for upgrade access. Download passwords will NOT be issued on-line. E-Mail requests should be addressed to emily@TotSysSoft.com Upgrade announcement was delayed by equipment problems and the arrival of 3.1-NEXTSTEP. Upgrading from 1.0x to 1.04 does NOT imply a multiplication of license. A registered licensee may use any combination of versions two-modems per license purchased, on one or two workstations. When the second modem is on a second NeXT not the property of the licensee, support is to the licensee only. 4. Under development v1.20 (current designation) is under development which will support Supra, Mistra, ZyXEL, HSD, and if negotiations meet expectations, the new DoveFax 14400 FaxModem. This version may be field-upgradable for other faxmodems, but will support any combination of these four. (two per license). As always, v1.04 and v1.20 are licensed for support of up to two faxmodems on one or two NEXTSTEP systems. If lowest level code (and serial driver fix) for FIP timing coincides, this will be furnished in fat binaries -- thus the two licensed usages will be for any combination of white and black NEXTSTEP. v1.20 will REQUIRE v3.1 NEXTSTEP (or FIP). In either case net-faxing from white or black is the same. We're finally getting into the swing to support other fax modems on a timely basis when reasonable communication is available from the modem manufacturer, regarding exact proper activity of THEIR subset of Class-2 behaviour. 5. Availablility (blatant advertisement) DFax is available Retail or to Dealers or Educational buyers from Alembic Systems Ltd. of Denver, CO and London UK. E-Mail to robbie@Alembic.com for pricing. A Toll-free support and order number is also maintained by Alembic-Denver. 1-800-452-7608 or 1-303-799-6223 Sorry, upgrade downloads and upgrade download passwords are not (yet) available from Alembic. 6. WHAT IS ADAPTIVE ANSWER? Adaptive answer is a feature on some FaxModems which detect the ``CNG'' warble-ringing tone emitted by properly functioning fax equipment during dialing and until connection by the dialed party. FaxModems with this feature will generally answer in Data mode (if the feature is enabled) if this tone is not present when the phone is answered. The modem will notify the computer of the type of call. 7. WHAT IS DISTINCTIVE RING Distinctive ring is two different timings of incoming rings depending upon the telephone number dialed. Current DFax versions count rings as sent by the modem. The most common distinctive ring is as follows... Line-1 RING RING RING RING Line-2 RING RING RING RING RING RING Some modems accept the double-rings as a single ring sending a single ``RING'' message to the host. Others send every ring. You may observe the same behaviour on a variety of answering machines. 8. Modems to be considered for support A. Must have some modicum of developer support from manufacturer B. Should, but does not HAVE to, support adaptive answer C. Must support Class-2, 2., or 2.0 protocols. D. Should be already in production E. Should be operable over standard Serial cu/tty devices F. Must support at least 19200bps DCE-DTE G. Modem must be answerable in Fax/Data mode with ATA H. SHOULD not require NVRAM writes to disable auto-answer 9. The ``Damn'' ad campaign in NeXT-World wasn't my idea. :) Bruce DFax/DFAX is a trademark of Total System Software NEXTSTEP is a trademark of NeXT, Inc. ------------------------------------ Bruce Gingery bruce@TotSysSoft.com Total System Software - the creators of DFax
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: trebels@desdemona.theo-phys.gwdg.de (Stephan Trebels) Subject: Re: Mysterious Problem ! Message-ID: <6J9EBBXC@gwdu03.gwdg.de> Sender: news@gwdu03.gwdg.de (USENET News System) Organization: GWDG, Goettingen References: <1993Jul8.201648.18915@informatik.uni-bremen.de> Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1993 13:52:39 GMT Hi, this is a Repost of a message sent some weeks ago: -------START REPOST------ Bug Note: NeXT has acknowledged a bug in their text object which effects image services within rtfd documents when the graphic files have "short" names. Instead of the graphic appearing, a NeXT logo icon appears. This bug is fixed under NS 3.1. Excerpt from NS 3.1 Appkit release notes ... Reference: 30376 Problem: If the ImageAgent filtering service was installed, some images in ".rftd" directories appeared as the NeXT logo. Description: Because of a bug in the way the Text class handles ".rftd" directories, image data in files with names less than eight characters weren't imaged. Instead, the default image, a NeXT logo, were displayed. ------END REPOST------- As far as I know, this only happens while using ImageAgent, but it is definitly a bug in the Text class. I don't know of any workaround other than editing the files and renaming the graphics to something *longer* than eight characters. Ciao, Stephan -- +--------------------------------------------------------------+ / Stephan Trebels voice: +49 551 44690 /| +--------------------------------------------------------------+ | | <trebels@theo-phys.gwdg.de> "No NeXTmail yet, it's a HP" | + | <trebels@desdemona.theo-phys.gwdg.de> "NeXTmail welcome" |/ +--------------------------------------------------------------+
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy From: samurai@binkley.cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK) Subject: Re: NS Serial Port Drivers. HELLO??? Anyone home???? Message-ID: <21msf5$6hu@binkley.cs.mcgill.ca> Keywords: broken garbage non-responsive company chapter 11 Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca Organization: SOCS - Mcgill University, Montreal, Canada References: <R1Za7B1w165w@mindvox.phantom.com> <To1a7B1w165w@mindvox.phantom.com> Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1993 16:58:13 GMT In article <To1a7B1w165w@mindvox.phantom.com> artek@mindvox.phantom.com (Ardal Technologies) writes: >deadboy@mindvox.phantom.com (The Dead) writes: >> artek@mindvox.phantom.com (Ardal Technologies) writes: >> (of the Artek, Ardal and Amran family of consultants to Shysters, Thieves >> and Profiteers, and all around annoying group of people ;-) Pbbblt) >> Joseph is a putz, I can say that because my future employment will >Sir this constitutes libel and defamation of character and is utterly >uncalled for, especially from an individual who does not even use his name >My lawyers will draft a formal response and deliver them to you care of >MindVox, who I'm sure will be pleased to know they are accomplices to your >attack upon my person. Yow! Welcome to the net :-) - db -- <Here we are! Here we are! Here we are!> Stipe <I don't know.> Steve <It's never really happy for me.> Housemartins <Even a stopped clock tells the right time twice a day.> and I <A nod's as good as a wink wink to a blind man> Idle <Must be a bug in the AppKit.> Ivo + Paul
From: dillon@moonshot.west.oic.com (Matthew Dillon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NS Serial Port Drivers. HELLO??? Anyone home???? Date: 10 Jul 1993 18:35:09 -0700 Organization: Homeless Electron Distribution: world Message-ID: <21nqod$6b7@moonshot.west.oic.com> References: <21msf5$6hu@binkley.cs.mcgill.ca> In article <21msf5$6hu@binkley.cs.mcgill.ca> samurai@binkley.cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK) writes: :>My lawyers will draft a formal response and deliver them to you care of :>MindVox, who I'm sure will be pleased to know they are accomplices to your :>attack upon my person. : :Yow! : :Welcome to the net :-) : :- db hell figure out soon enough when his Lawyer tells him it won't work. Remember, looser foots the bill... -Matt :-- :<Here we are! Here we are! Here we are!> Stipe <I don't know.> Steve :<It's never really happy for me.> Housemartins <Even a stopped clock : tells the right time twice a day.> and I <A nod's as good as a wink : wink to a blind man> Idle <Must be a bug in the AppKit.> Ivo + Paul
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: royce@splunge.uucp (Royce Howland) Subject: Re: CDPlayer.app Message-ID: <1993Jul10.224003.507@splunge.uucp> Organization: Ashley, Howland & Wood References: <21hiur$n8@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> <21kuj9$r5n@cnn.sim.es.com> Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1993 22:40:03 GMT Lots of people write: >[...lots of stuff...] Well, here's my contribution to all the FUD flying around. I bought a Texel 3024 CD-ROM drive today, and installed it in my external SCSI goodies enclosure. I've got two hard disks, SCSI IDs 0 and 1, and the Texel is SCSI ID 2. Thus the CD-ROM drive is sd2, not sd1. Since I installed my system as root like you're supposed to, all the setuid CD bits are set up properly. I switched on public window server for my account so CDPlayer.app could be launched when I shove in an audio CD. Results? I'm playing U2's "Zooropa" on the Texel as I type this message. I'd say it works, unless that's not supposed to be Johnny Cash singing on the last cut. :~) Maybe there are CD-ROM drives that aren't compatible with audio CDs under NEXTSTEP, but my Texel doesn't seem to be one of them. -- Royce Howland, DKW Systems Corp. | "And since OS/2 2.0 is a 32-bit Everything is IMHO | operating system, programs are royce@splunge.uucp (NeXTMail OK) | easier to write and run faster, or kakwa!atlantis!splunge!royce | too." -ad for OS/2 2.0
From: amlovell@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Anthony M Lovell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Bottom Line, please: Intel or black? Message-ID: <1993Jul11.150240.280@Princeton.EDU> Date: 11 Jul 93 15:02:40 GMT Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University Originator: news@nimaster I need the bottom line. Is a 66 MHz Gateway 66V with 24 MB & 2 MB ATI GUP & IDE disk going to run NS/FIP better than a black 040 at 25 (or 33) MHz? I have an order in on such a 486 and want to know if I should cancel and buy used black instead. Also relevent: so far, how good has NeXT support (3.1) been for the black hardware? tony (reply to tony@wildfire.com) -- amlovell@phoenix.princeton.edu ...since 1963.
From: srosie@umich.edu (Steven S. Rosenblum) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: CDPlayer.app Date: 11 Jul 1993 16:36:51 GMT Organization: University of Michigan -- Ann Arbor Distribution: world Message-ID: <21pfj3$nnp@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> References: <C9r07t.Cw7@tigadmin.ml.com> <21klkf$r5n@cnn.sim.es.com> Originator: srosie@whitman.ccs.itd.umich.edu Date: Sat, 10 Jul 93 00:20:04 +0200 From: Michael Hallin <work@dannug.dk> To: srosie@umich.edu Subject: Re: CDPlayer.app In comp.sys.next.misc article <21hiur$n8@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> you wrote: >>>In article <1993Jul8.121132.24251@linus.mitre.org> jblue@mitre.org (Jason D. Blue) writes: >>>> >>>>To the two people who are trying to get the CDPlayer working: >>>[CHOMP] >>>> >>>>2. For the CDPlayer application to start up automatically when you insert >>>> an audio CD you have to make sure you got two things stright: >>>[CHOMP] >>>> b. Configure the CD drive's SCSI ID so that it appears as sd1. >>>> >>> BUT WHY????? >>> >>>As someone who's had to play around with scsi id's to get my system to work, >>>I don't understand what NeXT could've done that would make any of the sd# >>>devices different from one another (except for the boot drive). >>>If anyone out there has a good understanding of devices in UNIX, I would >>>much appreciate an explanation as to why setting devices to different >>>numbers has a significant effect on the system. >>> >>> thanks in advance, >>> steve "rosie" rosenblum >>> srosie@umich.edu Hi Steve Well, I hate to dissapoint you, but I&)ve been running the CDPlayer.app for about 5 months now, and it starts itself when a audio CD is inserted, both from root and from other users as well ---- AND my CDROM drive is the same Sony drive as used in NeXT&)s own drives, AND the SCSI ID of the drive is 5! AND I have a whole other bunch of stuff hanging on the chain as well and it&)s still working. So it can work, but don&)t ask me about the differences people are experiencing, but it seems to me, that the part about having to put the drive with certain ID or that other stuff that came out, it&)s necessary on my machine. BTW I&)m working on a ColorStation, 20Megs, 400Megs, NS 3.0 Best regards Michael PS. Please forward this as I can&)t post news at the moment, thanks -- _____________________________________________ Michael Hallin Copenhagen, Denmark NeXTMail: work@dannug.dk NonNeXTMail: mh.xeroxvang@rxdk.xerox.com Voice: Int + 45 43 53 34 33 Fax: Int + 45 43 53 34 33 _____________________________________________
From: sdreilin@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Sean Dreilinger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: DTC SCSI Controller for NS/FIP? Summary: is anybody getting a dtc scsi controller to work? Keywords: DTC, NS/FIP, SCSI Message-ID: <51763@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> Date: 11 Jul 93 20:00:32 GMT Sender: news@sdcc12.ucsd.edu Organization: University of California, San Diego Dear NeXT community: Is anybody trying to install NS/FIP on a system that uses the DTC 3290 caching EISA scsi controller? This controller is supposed to be Adaptec 1542b compatible, so i have tried the NeXTanswers-recommended settings for IRQ,, memory address, etc. for the adaptec controller, but no luck. If you have succeeded, or are even trying with a DTC controller, please contact me at: sdreilin@sdcc13.ucsd.edu and I will ... 1. contact Valorie Koch at DTC and find out what they recommend//are doing. 2. write you back or post a summary here. Thanks in advance if anybody can post the magic settings... Sincerely, Sean Dreilinger :)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: tim@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu (Tim Pugh) Subject: Shipping Costs Message-ID: <CA0rHn.Cry@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu> Organization: Johns Hopkins Continuing Professional Programs Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1993 21:24:58 GMT I find that some software venders are using excessively expensive shipping services and not providing customers a lower priced choice. In particular, I recently purchased the TextToSpeech Kit from Trillium Sound Research Inc. of Albertha, Canada. I made the purchase, in part, because of a temproary price reduction; an offer of their User Kit for $95.00 (US). I paid via VISA an later found a shipping charge of $20.00 (Canadian) had bee added to the base cost. I beleive this works out to a US shipping cost of $16.52. I later received a bill from Federal Express for $5.10, not sure what this was but it appears to be some sort of tax. Leaving the latter charge (tax?) out of the equation this means that the shipping charge was aprox 15% of the total cost. Perhaps we have been too hard in our criticism of the U.S. Mail system. Certainly 1ST Class Mail would have been significantly cheaper and I had no immediate need for this app. The bottom line: Please provide alternative (slower and cheaper) means of shipping S.W. product. These are not typically easily damaged in shipment and frequently are not time critical. Does any one else feel this way, or am I the lone complainer? --Tim -- Tim Pugh |MicroCALL Services tim@aplcenmp.apl.JHU.EDU |8713 Briarcroft Lane |Laurel, MD 20708-1355 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: begonia@abstractsoft.com (Sonja Jo Krenz-Bush) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Shipping Costs Date: 11 Jul 1993 22:37:20 GMT Organization: Abstract Software Message-ID: <21q4n0$6o0@news.u.washington.edu> References: <CA0rHn.Cry@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu> Keywords: Shipping Costs In article <CA0rHn.Cry@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu> tim@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu (Tim Pugh) writes: >I find that some software venders are using excessively expensive >shipping services and not providing customers a lower priced choice. >In particular, I recently purchased the TextToSpeech Kit from >Trillium Sound Research Inc. of Albertha, Canada. I made the >purchase, in part, because of a temproary price reduction; an >offer of their User Kit for $95.00 (US). I paid via VISA an >later found a shipping charge of $20.00 (Canadian) had bee added > > [munch munch munch munch] > >Perhaps we have been too hard in our criticism of the U.S. Mail >system. Certainly 1ST Class Mail would have been significantly >cheaper and I had no immediate need for this app. > > [munch munch munch munch] Seeing as how your product was shipped from Canada I doubt that it could have been shipped directly via US Mail. From what I know of the Canadian mail system (which I admit is very little), it is better to have it shipped via Federal Express. Do realize that "international" mail, even if it is only from as far away as Canada, will be more exspensive. When purchasing a product you should always ask what shipping and handling charges will be (and any other charges there might be). That way they aren't ``hidden'' charges. When we ship our product, since it only weights 1lb 8oz, we ship it 2-day Priority Mail for domestic packages. This only costs the customer $3 and they receive their product quickly. Personally, I prefer companies to ship their products to me either via US mail or Federal Express. I try and avoid UPS at all costs because their such buttheads about delivery. [They expect you to take time off work so that you can be there during the time that they deliver. I once got them to make a special delivery after their regular hours after several rounds with them which finished with me asking them to mail me the package through US mail.] -- Sonja Jo Krenz-Bush ``Another one of the flock following the herd.'' Abstract Software P.O. Box 25045 Seattle, WA 98125 206/361-5080 e-mail: begonia@abstractsoft.com NeXTmail accepted with glee!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Rob Tibshirani) Subject: Re: Shipping Costs Message-ID: <CA0upt.Csp@utstat.toronto.edu> Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics References: <CA0rHn.Cry@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu> Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1993 22:34:41 GMT In article <CA0rHn.Cry@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu> tim@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu (Tim Pugh) writes: >I find that some software venders are using excessively expensive >shipping services and not providing customers a lower priced choice. >In particular, I recently purchased the TextToSpeech Kit from >Trillium Sound Research Inc. of Albertha, Canada. I made the >purchase, in part, because of a temproary price reduction; an >offer of their User Kit for $95.00 (US). I paid via VISA an >later found a shipping charge of $20.00 (Canadian) had bee added >to the base cost. I beleive this works out to a US shipping cost >of $16.52. I later received a bill from Federal Express for >$5.10, not sure what this was but it appears to be some sort >of tax. Leaving the latter charge (tax?) out of the equation >this means that the shipping charge was aprox 15% of the total >cost. This is not the fault of canadian companies. Rather it is the fault of the US border police who are using every trick in the book to prevent imports from selling there. Perhaps your government should look at its own hidden protectionist ways before chiding Japan. I have sent a lot of hardware/software to the US (some sold and some just as a present and some returned because it was defective- the hw). I typically used UPS ground which is less than Fed Ex, although I did price out the Fed Ex alternative. Here's what happens. Even if goods are not subject to duty, handling, etc... they are typically examined (at random) by your border in order to see if there is something that can be taxed. The cost of this is then passed on to the sendor (me in these cases) and seemed to be random. Roughly $10US->$15US. This is a handling fee just to see if there is something to collect. I was charged this amount for sending back a defective midi keyboard, and am still appealing this. All is not that rosy up here either, but if you want to see hidden trade barriers you need only look no further than your own borders. >Perhaps we have been too hard in our criticism of the U.S. Mail >system. Certainly 1ST Class Mail would have been significantly >cheaper and I had no immediate need for this app. Well mail may or may not work, and there's the tracking issue. > >The bottom line: Please provide alternative (slower and cheaper) >means of shipping S.W. product. These are not typically easily >damaged in shipment and frequently are not time critical. I agree. It works both ways. When I first called up NeXT Connection years ago the cost of shipping a cable was greater than the cost of the cable. You want the costs to go down then you've got to reign in the rabid nationalists on both sides of the border. >Does any one else feel this way, or am I the lone complainer? Nope you certainly are not alone. Someone is making a lot from this. It isn't clear who it is though. -- Philip McDunnough University of Toronto philip@utstat.toronto.edu [Where sheep may safely graze...]
From: mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Alex) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: CDPlayer.app Message-ID: <88361@ut-emx.uucp> Date: 12 Jul 93 01:16:43 GMT References: <21k5vqINNkoo@golden.kaleida.com> Sender: news@ut-emx.uucp Organization: Klatu Verata Necktie In article <21k5vqINNkoo@golden.kaleida.com> Paul Marcos, marcos@kaleida.com writes: >>Then it say CDPlayer.app can't find CD Rom drive. Any ideas? A while back I posted in this thread to say that I couldn't get CDPlayer.app to auto launch on the insertion of an audio CD. Well, yesterday I tried it again just for kicks and found that lo and behold it "just works" now. I don't know what happened, I certainly didn't change anything. Oh well... To summarize my experiences with CDPlayer.app... My system: NeXTcube '040 16/349 running NS 3.0, NeXT CD-ROM drive, Apple CD300 drive. With NeXT CD-ROM drive set to SCSI id 2 (sd1) CDPlayer.app will auto launch and work fine on insertion of audio CD, both from the dock and when not in the dock (this being immediately after a reboot). With Apple CD300 set to SCSI id 2 (I swapped it with the NeXT drive) CDPlayer.app behaves in exactly the same manner as with the NeXT drive. CDPlayer.app (as expected) will not recognize a second CD-ROM (ie whichever is not set to sd1). It will however, recognize a single drive regardless of which ID it is at. I did absolutely nothing to get this to work. I checked the existence of the appropriate files which were installed as part of the developer system (install done as root, I might add). Thats it. Now if I could only get pCD.app to run on insertion of a PhotoCD... Hopefully some useful info here. ---------------------------------- Alex Currier HotLine Technical Support Texas Union MicroCenter, UT Austin ----------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: michi@cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Michele Giardini) Subject: Workshop on "3D modelling in NEXTSTEP" Sender: news-mail@ghost.dsi.unimi.it (News mail user) Organization: Computer Science Dep. - Milan University Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1993 10:02:00 GMT Message-ID: <1993Jul12.100200.2211@ghost.dsi.unimi.it> State University in Milan Computer Science Department Via Comelico 39/41 - Milan (Italy) Workshop July, 15th 1993, h. 16.00 Mr. Carlo Volpati will talk about "3D modelling in NEXTSTEP using solidThinking Modeler " Abstract solidThinking Modeler is a professional 3D modelling system composed by a complex primitive generator, morphing, an advanced 2d profile editor, multiple lofting and deformations that you can apply to extruded or rotated objects, automatic generation of shadows and reflection maps, unlimited output resolution. The interactive photorealistic rendering is done through Pixar's program RenderMan , included in NEXTSTEP. During the workshop, solidThinking modeler will be demonstrated by Carlo Volpati, co-author of the package. The workshop is organized by the Computer Science Department - State University in Milan, with the collaboration of NeXT2YOU - The Italian NEXTSTEP User Group -- Giardini Michele - Computer Science Department State University of Milan - Coordinator of NeXT2YOU (The Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) Via Comelico 39/41 - 20135 Milano Tel. +39 2 55006385 Fax +39 2 55006373 Email: michi@cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (NeXT mail welcome)
From: pkron@corona.com (Peter Kron) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NS Serial Port Drivers. HELLO??? Anyone home???? Message-ID: <115.UUL1.3#16216@corona.com> Date: Mon, 12 Jul 93 15:05:01 PDT References: <1993Jul9.232444.3314@svcdudes.com> Organization: Corona Design, Inc., Seattle, WA > From: moose@svcdudes.com > Sender: news@svcdudes.com > Date: Fri, 9 Jul 93 23:24:44 GMT > > > As somebody who makes the telecomm product you all need to have to use the > serial drivers, all I can say is chill out. NeXT has never considered Serial > communications very important, but they are learning. They have the latest > MicroPhone and are trying to make sure everything is working. And getting > serial stuff working on all PC's is very tricky business. Hopefully, they will > give me the serial driver, I'll put it on the disk, and August 1 (real > tentative date), everybody can use their modems again. > > Meanwhile, let's all calm down and wait. Nobody likes to wait a month, but > it's not going to kill anyone. I can limp along with my flaky UUCP until the new driver comes out. But I have to admit the bad taste is there. It Just Doesn't Work. What's worse it crashes my machine and forces an fsck, hanging at an interactive remote kernel debugger prompt just to be sure I wait for the fsck. I could live with occasional line garbage (UUCP will fix that anyway); I wouldn't mind an occasional crash of UUCP (so my mail comes an hour later). OS crashes are just not acceptable. I know that, you know that, NeXT knows that. I don't doubt that general PC serial drivers are much harder than they ought to be, but that's no excuse. NeXT has had 18 months to get one that at least doesn't crash. They've known for 6 months that the serial drivers had real problems. After knowingly realeasing the problems they have no official comment on resolution to their customers. NEXTSTEP *is* the best software on the planet and I expect more from it. --------------- Peter Kron P.O. Box 51022 Corona Design, Inc. Seattle, WA 98115-1022 Peter_Kron@corona.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: spoormand@hns.com (Sy Poormand) Subject: NeXT Cube for sale Sender: news@hns.com (USENET news system) Message-ID: <1993Jul12.150624.7944@hns.com> Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1993 15:06:24 GMT Distribution: usa Organization: Hughes Network Systems Inc. NeXT 68030 Cube 660 Mb Macropolis SCSI-2 Hard Drive (has 4 years warranty left) 24 Mb RAM NeXTSTEP 2.1 installed on HD. NeXT CD rom drive + NeXTSTEP 3.0 on CD + educational sampler CD. External Archive 250MB tape drive + 3 250MB tapes + enTar backup software. Tones of commercial software including: Mathematica Improve Adobe-Illestrator Touch Type Microphone SoftPC Squash WordPerfect Create WriteNow and many others. Full NeXTSTEP 2.0 documents 10 volumes + 3 volumes of Mathematica. The first offer over 1300$ takes it. This has been a home machine, very lightly used. I live in the D.C. area, can ship anywhere in the US, buyer pays shipping. E-mail: spoormand@hns.com or leave message at 301-540-8821
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: mikes@ceco.ceco.com (Michael Stepniczka) Subject: ATI Graphics Ultra XLR Message-ID: <CA2ABt.CsM@ceco.ceco.com> Sender: root@ceco.ceco.com (Operator) Organization: Commonwealth Edison Co. Distribution: na Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1993 17:09:29 GMT I'm looking at PCs to run NEXTSTEP on, and the Gateway 66MHz machines look pretty nice as far as I can tell. I see that they have switched from using the ATI Graphics Ultra Pro to using the ATI Graphics Ultra XLR which is supposed to run faster than the old board. My question is- is this compatible with the ATI driver currently in NEXTSTEP? If not, is one in the works? Thanks for any info. Michael Stepniczka mikes@ceco.ceco.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: blaine@catt.ncsu.edu (Grey Mull) Subject: HELP - should I buy NeXT now ???? Message-ID: <blaine-120793120739@catgw05.catt.ncsu.edu> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc Sender: news@ncsu.edu (USENET News System) Organization: V.P. Conservative Society, NCSU Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1993 16:12:12 GMT I have followed NeXT since 1989, but settled on a mac instead because of money constraints. Since I work in the computer sales dept at my school store I can get an incredible deal on a NEW mono station in the 8/400 setup. I have ethernet where I live, but our campus is setup on AFS - is that a problem? I am a business major, but I like to hack - is there enough of a happy user base to justify this as my only system? I am also VERY concerned about how useful this system will be when I leave school and the internet. HELP ME PLEASE!! Grey Mull *********************************************** V.P. Conservative Society * If you voted for CHANGE... * North Carolina State U. * then you better start counting it! * blaine@catt.ncsu.edu ***********************************************
From: ravine@jnext.ucsd.edu (Michael Ravine) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: CDPlayer.app Date: 12 Jul 1993 18:00:05 GMT Organization: University of California, San Diego Message-ID: <21s8r5INN4sq@network.ucsd.edu> I too have a problem getting the CDPlayer.app to run. I've tried the various suggestions that have been posted: I installed Demonstration.pkg at root, so the setuid bit is set (ie, -rwsr-xr-x 1 root 40960 Jul 24 1992 cdaudio.util) I tried the SCSI ID at different settings I enabled the Public Window Server option. Having tried all of those things, I still get the "Could't open CD-ROM Drive" alert box when I run CDPlayer.app. If I insert an audio CD in the drive, I get the following on the console: DISK UNFORMATTED Disk is Write Protected sd2 (2,0): ERROR op:0x28 sd_state:4 scsi status:0x0 sd2 (2,0): sense key:0x5 additional sense code:0x84 SCSI Block in error = 0 (no valid label) sd2 (2,0): ERROR op:0x43 sd_state:4 scsi status:0x0 sd2 (2,0): sense key:0x5 additional sense code:0x24 SCSI Block in error = 0 (no valid label) cdutil: sendCommand error:Sense key: 5, code: 24 If this provides anybody with a hint as to the problem, I'd appreciate hearing about it. (BTW, I'm running NS 3.0 on a color station with an internal drive and an external drive I boot from, and I'm using an Apple CD 150 drive).
From: glenn@rightbrain.com (Glenn Reid) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: * * * RightBrain Sale: 50% off through July (RTF) * * * Message-ID: <1262@rtbrain.rightbrain.com> Date: 12 Jul 93 20:01:57 GMT Sender: glenn@rightbrain.com RightBrain Software stages huge 50% off sale for rest of July! We're still in a drought from NeXT's transition, so we're having another sale. Everything is at least 50% off for the rest of July! Call us now for fonts (we have over 1600 to choose from, and if you don't have anything besides Times and Helvetica, you don't know what you're missing)! Call us now for PasteUp 2.0, which recently won a Best of Breed award from NeXTWORLD magazine! SALE! Regular PasteUp: $397.50 $795 PasteUp Edu: $149 $298 Adobe Type: 50% off! $95 - $370 These products all include full source code! 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From: obsta@nvtcp1.esm.vt.edu (Andreas Obst) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Where are the NeXT FAQ's located? Date: 13 Jul 1993 01:39:30 GMT Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia Message-ID: <21t3oi$rkk@vtserf.cc.vt.edu> Where can I find FAQ's for the NeXT? -- Andreas Obst Department of Engineering Science and Mechanics Virginia Tech obsta@nvtcp1.esm.vt.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: tlm@tantalus.scl.ameslab.gov (Dr. T. L. Marchioro II) Subject: Re: Shipping Costs Message-ID: <CA376G.AMJ@news.iastate.edu> Sender: news@news.iastate.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA References: <CA0upt.Csp@utstat.toronto.edu> Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1993 04:59:03 GMT Rob Tibshirani writes []In article <CA0rHn.Cry@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu> tim@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu (Tim Pugh) writes: []>I find that some software venders are using excessively expensive []>shipping services and not providing customers a lower priced choice. []>In particular, I recently purchased the TextToSpeech Kit from []>Trillium Sound Research Inc. of Albertha, Canada. I made the []>purchase, in part, because of a temproary price reduction; an []>offer of their User Kit for $95.00 (US). I paid via VISA an []>later found a shipping charge of $20.00 (Canadian) had bee added []>to the base cost. I beleive this works out to a US shipping cost []>of $16.52. I later received a bill from Federal Express for []>$5.10, not sure what this was but it appears to be some sort []>of tax. Leaving the latter charge (tax?) out of the equation []>this means that the shipping charge was aprox 15% of the total []>cost. [] []This is not the fault of canadian companies. Rather it is the fault of the US []border police who are using every trick in the book to prevent imports from []selling there. Perhaps your government should look at its own hidden []protectionist ways before chiding Japan. [] <<Description of problems with borders and taxes deleted>> []All is not that rosy up here either, but if you want to see hidden trade []barriers you need only look no further than your own borders. [] while I would agree with Philip that things sent here from Canada can truly get the run-around, and cost $ in the bargain, based on *my experiences only* (i.e. others mileage no doubt varied) while living in Canada last year the problems going *into* Canada are almost infinitely worse. In addition to the tariffs and various border policies, there are also the various forms of Canadian sales taxes which are so onerous (15% in Ontario, I think ~19% now in PEI and New Brunswick) they try to apply it to everything possible. The best example I can cite is my NeXT Mathematica documentation, which sat at the border for a few days while they "inspected" it, and then was released only after I paid $17 Canadian on a product that cost only $25 US. FYI this was in the Fall of '91, when the exchange rate was running about 88 CA to $1 US. The degree of usuriousness is left as an exercise for the reader :) All my Canadian friends know how much I loved the country --- would seriously consider moving back, to tell the truth --- as in many ways it's a superior society, but protectionist trade policies are definitely an arena in which the US is more "enlightened" (if still eons behind the Australians). Hell, the Canadian have Inter-PROVINCIAL trade barriers, i.e. you can't buy, for example, Moosehead beer in Ontario as it's not brewed in the province. clearly getting off track...... is there an alt.gatt ?? :) []>The bottom line: Please provide alternative (slower and cheaper) []>means of shipping S.W. product. These are not typically easily []>damaged in shipment and frequently are not time critical. [] []I agree. It works both ways. When I first called up NeXT Connection years []ago the cost of shipping a cable was greater than the cost of the cable. [] []You want the costs to go down then you've got to reign in the rabid []nationalists on both sides of the border. [] []>Does any one else feel this way, or am I the lone complainer? [] []Nope you certainly are not alone. Someone is making a lot from this. It isn't []clear who it is though. It is, of course, ALL OF US since our governments are just the representatives of "we the people" (ooops, keyboard got wet from the dripping sarcasm :) -- Dr. Thomas L. Marchioro II Two-wheeled theoretical physicist Center for Physical and Computational Mathematics 515-294-6629 Ames Laboratory 515-233-1216 (home) Ames, Iowa 50011 tlm@iastate.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: bcongdon@lotatg.lotus.com (Bob Congdon) Subject: NEXTSTEP Ad spotted in Microsoft Systems Journal Message-ID: <CA24yw.H61@lotus.com> Sender: news@lotus.com Organization: Lotus Development Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1993 15:13:43 GMT It's likely that I'm one of few people who read this newsgroup who saw this: There's a large advertisement for the NEXTSTEP 3.1 Evaluation Kit on pages 76-77 of the August '93 issue of Microsoft Systems Journal. It's a little difficult to spot since it runs across the bottom half of two pages, below a few other ads. --bob congdon bcongdon@lotatg.lotus.com
From: balfanz@zorro.informatik.hu-berlin.de (Dirk Balfanz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Beginner's Question: Tools in WS Date: 13 Jul 1993 11:21:53 GMT Organization: Humboldt University Berlin, Department of Computer Science Distribution: world Message-ID: <21u5sh$hg3@hahn.informatik.hu-berlin.de> I would like gunzip to be the default tool for uncompressing .gz - files. Is the following scenario possible: I double-click on a .gz-File in the WS file viewer. The Inspector pops up with its tool section and tells me that the file is compressed and gives me the option to uncompress it using gunzip (just as it is with .Z or .tar files). Thanks for any help. Dirk.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: uunet!molly!vlcek (Jim Vlcek) Subject: Re: CDPlayer.app Message-ID: <CA3AB7.ADv@molly.uucp> Sender: vlcek@molly.uucp (James Vlcek) Organization: The Black Box of Lowertown References: <21klkf$r5n@cnn.sim.es.com> Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1993 06:06:43 GMT In article <21klkf$r5n@cnn.sim.es.com> npratt@gecko.modsys (Nevin Pratt) writes: > In article Cw7@tigadmin.ml.com, kunal@passion.pilot.dmg.ml.com (Kunal Singh) writes: > > Has anyone successfully used this application ? > > > > Yes, but ONLY on a *GENUINE* NeXT CD-ROM drive. Others are probably not > audio-command equivalent, even if they have the same basic SONY mechanism. I've got a genuine NeXT CD-ROM, and CDPlayer doesn't work for me. If I simply insert an audio CD into the drive, it horks it back out, and the console log reads (after a bunch of error messages no doubt due to Workspace trying to open the CD as a data disk): Jul 13 00:56:13 Workspace: Mounted scsi disk at /cdaudio cdaudio.util: CANNOT OPEN CDPlayer Double-clicking CDPlayer produces a panel saying "Couldn't open CD-ROM drive, OK?". Inserting the CD at that point does no good. My setup: slab w/ 105MB internal at scsi 1, Fujitsu 660MB external at scsi 0, and the CD-ROM drive at scsi 4 (as sd2). I tend to believe the guy who said that the program is hardwired to expect the CD-ROM at sd1. Is this a FAQ yet? Jim Vlcek molly!vlcek@uunet.uu.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: jds@aplpy.jhuapl.edu (John D Stanhope) Subject: !!!! NeXT goes belly up !!!! Message-ID: <1993Jul13.121907.1386@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu> Sender: news@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Lab Date: Tue, 13 Jul 93 12:19:07 GMT JUST KIDDING. But I wanted to get your attention. Does anyone have any experience using the ATI EISA card under NS/I. Since it didn't "just work" I tried other numerous settings and other worthless crap just trying to get the entire test program to display something but the card still blanks my Nano F550i at resolution higher than 640x480. I have removed all other cards from my system (Dell 450DE). I tried ATI support but there closed by the time I can get home to play with my system. I tried dell support and 1 guy said that another guy got it working by disbaling the memory aperture in the ATI config but enabling it in the EISA config, but that didn't work either. I also moved the memory aperture location around and tried various power configurations. PLEASE, PLEASE, if you know anyone or you personally have set up this card and had it work please tell what you did, even if you didn't do anything. And if you have this card working and can boot to DOS please run the install programs diagnostics and tell me if everything came up OK, screen doesn't die at 1024x768, because this means my card is most likely bad. I am eagerly awaiting your reponse espicially if you have the answer to my problem. If I can't get this working its back to OS/2 and another very dissatisified customer of NeXT's fabulous service and support. thanks John Stanhope PS. I know I've posted this before but so far nothing has worked and I get just a little tired of this crap especially since everything I have is listed under the compatibilty quide.
From: jmd@cube.handheld.com (Jim De Arras) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: NetWare and Partner/Ushare not compatible? Date: 13 Jul 1993 12:58:22 GMT Organization: Hand Held Products, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <21ubheINN2ke@clem.handheld.com> In both beta releases, and now the final release, which I just bought, Partner/UShare does NOT work with NetWare is active. Anyone else had similiar/different experences? Also, I'm STILL having NFS problems with Partner/UShare running, the NeXT stops "sharing" it's drives via NFS. I have the latest Partner/UShare which is susposed to correct that, too. IMHO, Partner/UShare is not ready for release. Jim -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jim De Arras - WA4ONG | "Government is not reason. It is not eloquence. NRA,ILA | it is a force, like fire a dangerous servant jmd@handheld.com | and a terrible master." -- George Washington
From: peter@piassun1.joanneum.ac.at (Peter Resele) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXTtime ? Date: 13 Jul 1993 13:11:31 GMT Organization: Joanneum Research Sender: peter@piassun1.joanneum.ac.at Distribution: world Message-ID: <21uca3INN3pd@fstgds15.tu-graz.ac.at> Does anybody know more about the video for Nextstep? I heard it was demonstrated at the Expo. What can it do? When will it be available? (I just heard it was very impressive. However I have no idea how close it is to a real product, and how much was just "a demo"). Thanks, Peter
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: peter@corsica (Peter Eisch) Subject: Re: Beginner's Question: Tools in WS Message-ID: <CA3y8H.19u@news2.cis.umn.edu> Sender: news@news2.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: University of Minnesota References: <21u5sh$hg3@hahn.informatik.hu-berlin.de> Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1993 14:37:29 GMT Check out TickleServices. When/if you register, ask for the Gzip script. It won't handle the double-click scenario, but with the file selected in the File Viewer, cmd-Z isn't that difficult.. peter Dirk Balfanz (balfanz@zorro.informatik.hu-berlin.de) wrote: : I would like gunzip to be the default tool for uncompressing .gz - files. : Is the following scenario possible: I double-click on a .gz-File in the WS : file viewer. The Inspector pops up with its tool section and tells me -- I felt his rocket science training was inadequate. peter@tahiti.umhc.umn.edu (Peter Eisch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: ganek@apollo.hp.com (Daniel E. Ganek) Subject: Re: NeXTtime ? Sender: usenet@apollo.hp.com (Usenet News) Message-ID: <CA3yAH.K6x@apollo.hp.com> Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1993 14:44:40 GMT References: <21uca3INN3pd@fstgds15.tu-graz.ac.at> Organization: Hewlett-Packard Corporation, Chelmsford, MA In article <21uca3INN3pd@fstgds15.tu-graz.ac.at> peter@piassun1.joanneum.ac.at (Peter Resele) writes: >Does anybody know more about the video for Nextstep? I heard it was >demonstrated at the Expo. What can it do? When will it be available? >(I just heard it was very impressive. However I have no idea how close >it is to a real product, and how much was just "a demo"). > >Thanks, > >Peter > > (I assume this is ok to say this) I wasn't at the expo, but Steve demoed it here in chelmsford when he gave us his std dog and pony show a week ago. It was bit choppy and low res on the INTEL box, but it'll really run like a bat out of hell on PA-RISC. He said it'll be in beta or something like that late this year and in general release (early?) next year. This is the second time I've heard him speak, the first time was at digital world in beverly hills a year or two ago. He was kind of boring. But, in this small group, he's was kind of impressive himself. His std talk knocks UNIX, Motif, COSE, etc.; it was interesting to see how he down payed those issues for us:-) His slides were on photoCD, makes for a slick presentation. - I didn't get to ask him if he used a NeXT to produce them. How easy is it to produce a PhotoCD presentation on a NeXT. i.e. can I dump PS or TIFF images to a floppy and just send them off to Kodak?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware From: lilianp@iastate.edu (Lilian Pang) Subject: Re: ATI Ultra Pro or S3-928? Message-ID: <lilianp.742578911@du139-213.cc.iastate.edu> Sender: news@news.iastate.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA References: <chris.741367588@vincent1.iastate.edu> <1993Jun30.024910.26607@cs.uno.edu> <1993Jul1.021412.13606@sol.UVic.CA> Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1993 15:55:11 GMT In <1993Jul1.021412.13606@sol.UVic.CA> dmanke@sanjuan (Dennis Manke) writes: >In article <1993Jun30.024910.26607@cs.uno.edu> cajho@uno.edu writes: >>In article <chris.741367588@vincent1.iastate.edu>, chris@iastate.edu (Chris Wong) writes: >>>I received replies regarding the performance of ATI Ultra Pro >>>and S3-805. Some likes the ATI while some likes the S3-805. >>> >>>Another question: What about the performance difference of ATI Ultra >>>Pro and S3-928? >>> >>>I understand that S3-928 is not support in the current version of >>>NS/FIP, but I'll surely write a driver to support it. >>> >>>Any opinion? >>>-- >> >>The 928 will smoke the Ultra Pro. >> >Are you sure? At what resolution? >Everything I've read (after disecting performance results, but no actual >board in front of me), shows that at high resolutions, the Ultra Pro >outperforms most everything. At lower resolutions (to 800x600), some >boards can zip along up to 2x faster. >P.S. Note that the OEM board has a 64-bit RAMDAC, but Gateway and other > retailers substitute lower-end 32-bit RAMDAC's (I believe you can > upgrade at order time). How could I know if the ATI Ultra Pro from Gateway 2000 is using 64-bit RAMDAC or 32-bit RAMDAC? Is there any program to test this? BTW, what does RAMDAC stand for? >Dennis dmanke@sanjuan.uvic.ca -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Lilian Pang | Iowa State University lilianp@iastate.edu | Journalism and Mass Communications ------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc From: harit@kripalu.com Subject: How to boot standalone from CD in NS/I Message-ID: <1993Jul13.152359.1303@uunet!cbmvax!xmws!kripalu> Sender: harit@uunet!cbmvax!xmws!kripalu Organization: Kripalu Center Date: Tue, 13 Jul 93 15:23:59 GMT I have been trying to figure out how to boot standalone from the CD for days. The boot: prompt is not documented and the "option" field is not in the same format as the NeXT monitor. Any help appreciated. Please e-mail or call, I need this ASAP. -- Michael Allen Latta Kripalu Center harit@kripalu.com (413)448-3288
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: wagner@main.mndly.umn.edu (Richard Wagner) Subject: Has anyone received NS/FIP ACADEMIC package yet? Message-ID: <wagner.1442.742587557@main.mndly.umn.edu> Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: the Minnesota Daily (U of MN Student Newspaper) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1993 18:19:17 GMT Has anyone on the net who ordered NS/FIP Academic package through their bookstore/N???corp received it yet??? Still waiting... Rick W. wagner@main.mndly.umn.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: padua@cimnext2.eas.asu.edu (Bobby Padua) Subject: NeXT Machines for Sale Message-ID: <1993Jul13.182214.27887@ennews.eas.asu.edu> Sender: news@ennews.eas.asu.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Arizona State University Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1993 18:22:14 GMT I'm selling two NeXT machines for a friend. Send me your best offer. 1)NeXT Cube with 400 MB Drive 386 CPU $2000.00 OBO 2)NextStation 486 with 100 MB HD $1,500.00 OBO 3)NeXT Printer $800.00 OBO Please Call Mid-Valley Eng'g at Peter (602) 482-1251 or Bobby at (602)961-3401 Ext 4459 Bobby Padua
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: padua@cimnext2.eas.asu.edu (Bobby Padua) Subject: Intel GX Machines for NeXTStep 486 Message-ID: <1993Jul13.182709.28178@ennews.eas.asu.edu> Keywords: 486 PCs Sender: news@ennews.eas.asu.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Arizona State University Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1993 18:27:09 GMT We are selling brand new Intel GX Professional Machines at the Following prices and configurations: 1) GX Prof Hires 16 MB RAM, 340 MB Hard Drive Floppy, 2MB VRAM, SCSI Built-in 17" Mag Monitor Keyboard and Mouse Price = $4,685.00 2) GX Prof Hires 16 MB RAM, 540 MB Hard Drive Floppy, 2MB VRAM, SCSI Built-in 17" Mag Monitor Keyboard and Mouse Price = $5,485.00 3) GX Prof Hires 32MB RAM, 340 MB Hard Drive Floppy, 2MB VRAM, SCSI Built-in 17" Mag Monitor Keyboard and Mouse Price = $5,685.00 Buy now while prices are low..... Call Bob Padua at (602) 961-3401 Ext 4459 Pentrix/Tri-Star Computer 120 S Weber Chandler Arizona
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware From: t90yuan@mp.cs.niu.edu (yuan tzeng) Subject: Again, Is Mistumi CDROM drive working with NS/FIP Message-ID: <1993Jul13.184740.17027@mp.cs.niu.edu> Organization: Northern Illinois University Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1993 18:47:40 GMT I asked this question several days back and some of you folks sent me some helpful message. Thanks. Most of the replies said that "you just plug & play". Now I am going to order the new PC. I need to double-check if this $199 Mistumi (IDE controller?) will work with NS or not. Is there anybody who do use this drive tell me something. Thanks again for any info. -- [Tzeng Ruey Yuan] --yuan
From: jdchung@be.seas.upenn.edu (Jeffrey D. Chung) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware Subject: Re: ATI Ultra Pro or S3-928? Message-ID: <135789@netnews.upenn.edu> Date: 13 Jul 93 17:32:33 GMT References: <1993Jun30.024910.26607@cs.uno.edu> <1993Jul1.021412.13606@sol.UVic.CA> <lilianp.742578911@du139-213.cc.iastate.edu> Sender: news@netnews.upenn.edu Followup-To: comp.sys.next.advocacy Organization: University of Pennsylvania Does NS/FIP support the Diamond Viper? (with the Weitek chipset?) If so - I would think that the Weitek would SMOKE the ATI... Jeff.
From: drkstar!rwilson@gun.com (Robert K. Wilson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT Machines for Sale Date: 13 Jul 1993 14:06:24 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9307131904.AA00397@drkstar.aiko.gun.com> In comp.sys.next.misc article <1993Jul13.182214.27887@ennews.eas.asu.edu> you wrote: > I'm selling two NeXT machines for a friend. Send me your best offer. > > 1)NeXT Cube with 400 MB Drive 386 CPU $2000.00 OBO ^^^^^^^ Intel Inside? > 2)NextStation 486 with 100 MB HD $1,500.00 OBO ^^^ Intel Inside? > 3)NeXT Printer $800.00 OBO > > Please Call Mid-Valley Eng'g at Peter (602) 482-1251 or > Bobby at (602)961-3401 Ext 4459 > > Bobby Padua -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Robert K. Wilson, Esq. | Voice/Fax/Data 269-29D Grand Central Parkway | +1-718-279-0918 Floral Park, NY 11005 | NeXT Mail Accepted USA | Internet: rwilson@gun.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: volks@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.CA (Lorraine Van Wingerden) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Pen-based computing for the NeXT ??? Date: 13 Jul 1993 15:51:30 -0400 Organization: The Ohio State University Sender: daemon@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Message-ID: <9307131946.AA03528@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca> Hello, Is anyone doing pen-based computing using NeXTstep (either for Intel, or on black hardware)? Is it possible? I am interested in finding any information on any hardware or software that supports pen-based computing of any kind in the NeXTstep environment. Are there any development supports? I noticed that there is a tablet installer (InstallTablet.app) on our system in /NextAdmin. Has anyone connected a tablet to a NeXT system? Thank you for any comments or information. Lorraine Van Wingerden (please send e-mail to volks@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca) --- +-----------------------------------------------------------------+ | Lorraine Van Wingerden volks@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca | | University of Guelph tel. (519) 824-4120 Ext. 2713 | | Guelph, Ontario, Canada This space for rent .... | +-----------------------------------------------------------------+
From: boardman@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Michael Boardman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: User.addresses Date: 13 Jul 93 19:26:08 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL USA Message-ID: <boardman.742591568@news.acns.nwu.edu> Summary: Need a little help Keywords: address I am running NS3.0 and need a little information on /NextLibrary/Addresses/User.addresses. How does one input work/home/fax numbers and address information. Do I need to mess with netinfo? BTW, my NeXT came with NS2.1 and a free upgrade to 3.0. Unfortunately, I didn't get the 3.0 documentation...only the online sysadmin stuff...I could not find anything to help in there. Michael Boardman boardman@davinci.lfc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: andersen@reality.glv.com (Robert Andersen) Subject: Re: Intel GX Machines for NeXTStep 486 Message-ID: <1993Jul13.195715.29063@glv.uucp> Sender: usenet@glv.uucp Organization: Encompass References: <1993Jul13.182709.28178@ennews.eas.asu.edu> Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1993 19:57:15 GMT Bobby Padua writes > We are selling brand new Intel GX Professional Machines at the Following > prices and configurations: > > 1) GX Prof Hires > 16 MB RAM, 340 MB Hard Drive > Floppy, 2MB VRAM, SCSI Built-in > 17" Mag Monitor > Keyboard and Mouse > Price = $4,685.00 > > 2) GX Prof Hires > 16 MB RAM, 540 MB Hard Drive > Floppy, 2MB VRAM, SCSI Built-in > 17" Mag Monitor > Keyboard and Mouse > Price = $5,485.00 > 3) GX Prof Hires > 32MB RAM, 340 MB Hard Drive > Floppy, 2MB VRAM, SCSI Built-in > 17" Mag Monitor > Keyboard and Mouse > Price = $5,685.00 > > Buy now while prices are low..... Actually these prices are not very low. I spent $5555 for a Gateway 2000 66V and this is what I got: 32M RAM, 1.2G HD 3.5 Floppy, 2MB VRAM, ATI Ultra Pro Local Bus Adaptec SCSI card 17" NEC 5FG Keyboard/Mouse 14.4 Data/9600 Fax modem (Compuserve,fax package, and 2 other modem packages) Windows/Paradox/Quatro thrown in (probably won't use) For $135 less I have 800 more megabyte hard drive, modem, and some software. -- Robert John Andersen andersen@reality.glv.com 919-460-3285 Voice 919-460-3295 Fax
From: gmdst4+@pitt.edu (Gretchen M Dick) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXT mail what options do I have? Message-ID: <16468@blue.cis.pitt.edu> Date: 13 Jul 93 21:37:50 GMT Sender: news+@pitt.edu Organization: University of Pittsburgh Originator: gmdst4@unixd1.cis.pitt.edu I need to know if I can somehow receive NeXTmail on a non-nextmail Machine and download it onto my NeXT via a modem and then read it. I would like to do this so that I could receive NeXTmail with attachments. Any Ideas? Gretchen PS is this a FAQ? -- Gretchen "Think's Mark needs his own account" Dick md3z@andrew.cmu.edu or gmdst4@pitt.edu Standard Disclaimers Apply
Control: cancel <wagner.1442.742587557@main.mndly.umn.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: wagner@main.mndly.umn.edu (Richard Wagner) Subject: Has anyone received NS/FIP ACADEMIC package yet? Message-ID: <wagner.1447.742602713@main.mndly.umn.edu> Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: University of Minnesota Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1993 22:31:53 GMT
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: wagner@main.mndly.umn.edu (Richard Wagner) Subject: HELP with DPT controller and NS/FIP Message-ID: <wagner.1448.742603226@main.mndly.umn.edu> Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: the Minnesota Daily (U of MN Student Newspaper) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1993 22:40:26 GMT HELP! Finally got NS/FIP today but I'm having quite a problem. Upon installation this is what I get... intr: dropped IRQ 7 (repeated three times) Reseting SCSI Bus... EATA controller at irq 11 Registering: sc0 I never get past registering the SCSI controller. The LEDS on the DPT controller (2012B) go into idle mode and it just sits. The light on the floppy drive stays on at this point also. System ALR PowerPro 486/33 16MB Toshiba 3401 DPT 2012 Controller Any help would be vastly appreciated! Rick W.
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Tunes from the CDROM drive (CDPlayer.app FAQ) Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software Date: 14 Jul 1993 00:20:57 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <21vjha$6ph@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <1993Jul11.124043.3142@holli.uucp> In the thread with the subject: No more Tunes from the CDROM drive (I don't get it - Help) uunet!sci34hub!tybrin4!holli!me (Trey McClendon) writes: > gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) writes: > > devadas@ecf.toronto.edu (DEVADASON CHRISTOPHER PAUL) writes: > > > The CDPlayer.app now on startup gives a message Note the phrase "on startup" > > > window stating : "CDPlayer > > > Couldn't open the CD-ROM drive." > > > > > > I assumed this has something to do with the CDROM drive going > > > from sd1 to sd2. [...etc...] > > > > My understanding is that CDPlayer.app simply will not work unless > > your CD-ROM drive is the second-highest SCSI id on your machine. > > It must be the sd1 device, from all that I've ever seen about it. > > > [ some deletia] I wish you had not deleted the second paragraph here... > We have a Toshiba 3401 CD-ROM drive on a SCSI chain like this: > SCSI ID DEVICE > 0 Quantum 105 > 2 Fujitsu 1.2G > 3 DEC 2.0G > 4 WangDAT 1300 > 5 Toshiba 3401 > > There have been no problems at all with this setup. CDPlayer.app > autolaunches like it is supposed to work. Now note the phrase "autolaunches". I realize Trey is just trying to be helpful here, but it seems I should clarify my remarks (and repeat the second paragraph) as I also got a number of email messages which hinted that I was confused in thinking that CDPlayer only works when the CD-ROM is device sd1. And, like Trey, they all skipped over my second paragraph (which I find a little annoying). There are two (common) ways to use CDPlayer.app to play music CD's: 1) Start up CDPlayer.app by double-clicking on it. The program asks you to insert the music CD in "external disk 1". If you can do that (if your CD-ROM is device sd1), then you're all set. If some other device is sd1, then it just gives you an error message and quits. 2) Turn on the "Public Window Server" option in the Unix section of Preferences.app (and then log out and log back in again for that change to take effect). With this option on, you can then stick a music CD in *without* starting CDPlayer.app, and NeXTSTEP will autolaunch the CDPlayer program. While this is nicer, it also means you have turned on that "Public Window Server" option, and that option is a serious security hole for any NeXT which is connected to a network. No network-connected NeXT should have this option on. For that matter, NeXT never should have implemented the option the way they did (ie, with zero security). The original poster mentioned that he got the error message when *starting up* CDPlayer.app. They were therefore using method #1. My first paragraph was meant for how that method works (or doesn't work, as the case may be). As far as I know, if you double-click on the application then it will *only* work if your CD-ROM drive is setup such that it's device sd1 (or, to be more precise, so that it can be reached at /dev/rsd1h). My phrasing in that paragraph did not make it clear that I was talking about a limitation that exists only with method #1, but my second paragraph seems to make the point about as clearly as I can think of: "The only option is to turn on the public window server option (which, by the way, I recommend that you *NOT* do, because it's a security risk), and then stick music CD's into the drive. In that case the application will work no matter what device the ------------------------------- CD-ROM drive is. However, if you start up the CDPlayer.app before putting in a music disc, then the application will look at device sd1 and only sd1 (which in your new configuration is a hard disk, and the program can not open that...)." Some of the confusion that has occurred in (the many) usenet threads on CDPlayer.app is because people are talking about different methods. Someone helpfully offers advice for how they are using method #X, and the other person can't get music CD's to work despite that help because they are using the other method. Now, let me say once again that I recommend that no one turn on the "Public Window Server" preference. That seems to leave you with method #1 -- and that limitation where the CD-ROM drive must be sd1. (aside: note that "sd1" does not necessarily mean the device at SCSI ID #1. If you don't know how SCSI ids map to device numbers, then read up about it or something). Well, this limitation sucks, so I futzed around a little last night and figured out how to run CDPlayer.app *without* turning on Public Window Server, and *without* restricting which device the CD-ROM drive must be. It turns out you can specify which device CDPlayer.app should to use when it starts up (in fact, that's all method #2 is really doing). You just have to give CDPlayer.app a text file which contains the name of the device that it should use. Note the text file needs to be *just* that device name (no characters after it, including linefeeds or carriage-returns). Also note that you have to have write access to that file (even though the program doesn't seem to write to the file). If you check the file /usr/filesystems/cdaudio.fs/cdaudio.device, you should see a file with the right format. Unfortunately that file is owned by root, and other userids don't have write access to it. So, what I did was copy that file to a file in my home directory with the command: cp -p /usr/filesystems/cdaudio.fs/cdaudio.device ~/SetUp/cdaudio.device This gives me a file that I have write access to (it'd probably be a good idea to check and see if this file lists the right unix device name to get to your CD-ROM drive, in my case it's /dev/rsd2h). I then created a simple shell script named Start_CD that has the following two lines in it (the second line is probably wrapped in this usenet article, sorry about that...): #!/bin/sh /NextDeveloper/Demos/CDPlayer.app/CDPlayer -NXOpen ~gad/SetUp/cdaudio.device & and put that shell script in a directory that's in my PATH (in my case, it's in /usr/local/bin/Start_CD). Then all I have to do is type Start_CD as a unix command and CDPlayer.app will start up and ask me to insert a disk in "external disk 2". Once I do that, I'm merrily playing my music CD's. Note that this method should even allow you to pick which CD-ROM player to use for playing music CD's (assuming you have more than one connected to your NeXT), but I doubt many people will care about that. I realize this seems like a lot of silly little steps just to play music CD's, but for some people this will be the only way to get CDPlayer.app to work. It'd be pretty trivial to write a NeXTSTEP application to handle these minor details, but I feel too silly about writing an application which does little more than launch some other application. This isn't really a complete FAQ list for the questions that come up with CDPlayer.app, but maybe it'll help clear up some questions for some people interested in using this demo program. I'm a bit of a CD fanatic (with a collection of music CD's to match) myself, so I wanted to figure this out and then pass the info along in case other people were interested. The other most common problem is when CDPlayer.app has lost it's setuid root status, and thus runs as the user who is logged in (and thus can't open any devices anywhere). I covered that in another recent article in comp.sys.next.sysadmin though, so I'll skip it here. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: fox@graphics.cs.nyu.edu (David Fox) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware Subject: Re: ATI Ultra Pro or S3-928? Message-ID: <FOX.93Jul13173548@graphics.nyu.edu> Date: 13 Jul 93 22:35:48 GMT References: <chris.741367588@vincent1.iastate.edu> <1993Jun30.024910.26607@cs.uno.edu> <1993Jul1.021412.13606@sol.UVic.CA> <lilianp.742578911@du139-213.cc.iastate.edu> Sender: notes@cmcl2.nyu.edu (Notes Person) Organization: Courant Institute of Mathematical Sciences In-Reply-To: lilianp@iastate.edu's message of Tue, 13 Jul 1993 15:55:11 GMT In article <lilianp.742578911@du139-213.cc.iastate.edu> lilianp@iastate.edu (Lilian Pang) writes: BTW, what does RAMDAC stand for? Just a guess -- Random Access Memory Digital to Analog Converter? -david
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: davis@sonata.cc.purdue.edu (Robert Davis) Subject: Re: Intel GX Machines for NeXTStep 486 Message-ID: <CA4oG4.Fur@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> Sender: news@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (USENET News) Organization: Purdue University References: <1993Jul13.182709.28178@ennews.eas.asu.edu> <1993Jul13.195715.29063@glv.uucp> Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1993 00:09:39 GMT In article <1993Jul13.195715.29063@glv.uucp> andersen@reality.glv.com (Robert Andersen) writes: > > Actually these prices are not very low. I spent $5555 for a > Gateway 2000 66V and this is what I got: > [...] > >For $135 less I have 800 more megabyte hard drive, modem, and some software. > Yeah, but the GX is EISA, not ISA, it's SCSI controller is SCSI-2, and it includes sound on-the-board. Rob -- | Robert Davis davis@sonata.cc.purdue.edu | "Look up, Hannah." NeXT Mail accepted --
From: zmonster@athena.mit.edu (Eric M Hermanson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Neural Network Palettes or Classes? Date: 14 Jul 1993 04:48:30 GMT Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology Distribution: world Message-ID: <22036u$7q3@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> I am thinking about incorporating neural network computing in my research. Does anyone know of any public domain or commercial neural network programming palettes or classes? Thanks, Eric
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: paul@xexos.com (Paul Lynch) Subject: Re: Shipping Costs Message-ID: <1993Jul13.093902.3916@xexos.com> Sender: news@xexos.com Organization: Xexos, Ltd (London) References: <CA376G.AMJ@news.iastate.edu> Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1993 09:39:02 GMT In article <CA376G.AMJ@news.iastate.edu> tlm@tantalus.scl.ameslab.gov (Dr. T. L. Marchioro II) writes: > while I would agree with Philip that things sent here from Canada can truly > get the run-around, and cost $ in the bargain, based on *my experiences > only* (i.e. others mileage no doubt varied) while living in Canada last > year the problems going *into* Canada are almost infinitely worse. In > addition to the tariffs and various border policies, there are also the > various forms of Canadian sales taxes which are so onerous (15% in Ontario, > I think ~19% now in PEI and New Brunswick) they try to apply it to > everything possible. It is similar going into Europe. In the UK, for instance, incoming software will get a 4.9% duty charged most of the time (it is supposed to apply to hardware only, but floppy disks are hardware :-/ ), and then 17.5% sales tax (VAT). However, you will find that it isn't really the borders that are at fault. US mail carriers encourage shippers to stick an insurance value on the top of the parcel. If you are paying $25 for something insured for $200, it is very hard to convince customs that you shouldn't pay tax on $200. US shippers need to be more aware of the international customer base. In the industry as a whole, non-North America accounts for 40 - 60% of revenue, when it is managed properly. The least that suppliers can do is be aware of shipping costs and times, and try to understand the effect of duties and taxes. Paul -- Paul Lynch tel +44 71 237 4535 Xexos Ltd fax +44 71 231 0844 London paul@xexos.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: dave@prim.demon.co.uk (Dave Griffiths) Subject: Re: * * * RightBrain Sale: 50377777106ff through July (RTF) * * * Organization: Primitive Software Ltd. References: <1262@rtbrain.rightbrain.com> Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1993 10:32:15 +0000 Message-ID: <1993Jul13.103215.16709@prim> Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk Whatever happened to Jack Reynolds? Dave Griffiths
From: peter@tu-graz.ac.at (Peter Resele) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXTtime ? Date: 14 Jul 1993 11:20:30 GMT Organization: Technical University of Graz, Austria Message-ID: <220q5uINNgr9@fstgds15.tu-graz.ac.at> References: <CA3yAH.K6x@apollo.hp.com> Daniel E. Ganek (ganek@apollo.hp.com) wrote: : ... His slides were on photoCD, makes for : a slick presentation. - I didn't get to ask him if he used a NeXT to : produce them. How easy is it to produce a PhotoCD presentation on a : NeXT. i.e. can I dump PS or TIFF images to a floppy and just send them : off to Kodak? I think it is not quite as easy as that. As far as I know, Kodak just can put real (say, old fashioned ;-) ) slides and photo negatives on CD. However, Kodak now offers two tools for processing the CD-ROM images on Apple (MESS-WIN?), which allow you to convert the proprietary format into almost anything (TIFF, PS, ...). I don't know the names of the products, but I remember having read a rather positive review. I think some other products are coming out now, too. (thinking about that, it seems you will always need a PC with Windows, just to run some of the software that is available out there. However, a PC where *both* systems (Win + NeXT) are installed, could be very interesting for many people. The "total cost of ownership" of NeXTstep now has been reduced from a somewhat ridiculous price to the price of a slightly larger HD and $299 for the software. Let's hope for it...) (of course full integration of windows programs into NeXTstep would be the ultimate selling point,... though I doubt it ever will happen) To do what you want, one would need tools for creating the Photo-CD format (which was not published for a long time, don't know the current situation) and writing the Photo-CD format to a CD (probably the newer CD writers should be able to do this?) I think that the Photo CD actually contains the image in 4 different resolutions. Peter
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware From: ian@its.com Subject: Compaq QVision in 486 portable Message-ID: <1993Jul13.222548.14261@its.com> Sender: ian@its.com (Ian Gibbs) Organization: Information Technology Solutions Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1993 22:25:48 GMT Greetings, Many thanks to all of you who have responded with help on the Compaq memory question I posed last week. The answer turned out to be "make the memory 'linear' rather than 'Compaq'" The question this week: I've also got the QVision card installed within this portable system. I should be able to use it to attach an external monitor to get 1024 X 768 8 bit greyscale, right? When I try this, (using the "Configure" program), I just get a bunch of static on the screen. It looks pretty - in a psychadelic sort of way, but isn't very functional. (There is no inteligable image whatsoever.) Has anybody properly installed the Compaq QVision card? Many thanks again, Ian -- Ian Gibbs ian@its.com Information Technology Solutions NeXT/NEXTSTEP Consulting
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: dkk@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (david.k.kallman) Subject: Dead Mouse - how to fix? Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1993 12:11:16 GMT Message-ID: <CA5Lv4.2t5@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware Folks, We have a dead mouse on a (slightly older than one year old) Turbo Color Nextstation - it double clicks when pressed once. How does one get a new one/get this one repaired? Can Bell Atlantic help with this? Any other ideas? Thanks. Dave Kallman -- ---- Dave Kallman, AT&T, 480 Red Hill Rd., Middletown, NJ 07748 d_k_kallman@att.com, (908)615-2989, fax: (908)615-2507
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: andersen@reality.glv.com (Robert Andersen) Subject: Re: Intel GX Machines for NeXTStep 486 Message-ID: <1993Jul14.132951.231@glv.uucp> Sender: usenet@glv.uucp Organization: Encompass References: <CA4oG4.Fur@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1993 13:29:51 GMT Robert Davis writes > Yeah, but the GX is EISA, not ISA, it's SCSI controller is > SCSI-2, and it includes sound on-the-board. > > Then he should have said so. I still believe the Gateways are cheaper though. -- Robert John Andersen andersen@reality.glv.com 919-460-3285 Voice 919-460-3295 Fax
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) Subject: Re: HELP - should I buy NeXT now ???? Message-ID: <CA44uB.2I8@utstat.toronto.edu> Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics References: <blaine-120793120739@catgw05.catt.ncsu.edu> Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1993 17:06:10 GMT In article <blaine-120793120739@catgw05.catt.ncsu.edu> blaine@catt.ncsu.edu (Grey Mull) writes: > I have followed NeXT since 1989, but settled on a mac instead because of >money constraints. Since I work in the computer sales dept at my school >store I can get an incredible deal on a NEW mono station in the 8/400 >setup. I have ethernet where I live, but our campus is setup on AFS - is >that a problem? I am a business major, but I like to hack - is there >enough of a happy user base to justify this as my only system? Appletalk is totally taken care of (over Ethernet) using IPT's Partner. It's not expensive and works great. This will give you access to all printers, AFP servers, etc...There's also a product from IPT called uShare which would turn the NeXT into a non-dedicated AFP complient server. As for getting a NeXT now, go for it...You'll never regret it. > I am also VERY concerned about how useful this system will be when I leave >school and the internet. No need to be concerned. >HELP ME PLEASE!! Just e-mail for more specific questions. I've been in all the worlds. The NeXT is by far the best. Hopefully, and this is just my opinion, they will one day be able to rid themselves of ther Unix base. -- Philip McDunnough University of Toronto philip@utstat.toronto.edu [Where sheep may safely graze...]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: uunet!lkba!lkb (Larry Blische) Subject: Re: CDPlayer.app Message-ID: <1993Jul14.121535.1713@lkba.uucp> Sender: lkb@lkba.uucp (Larry Blische) Organization: LKB Associates, Inc. References: <CA3AB7.ADv@molly.uucp> Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1993 12:15:35 GMT In article <CA3AB7.ADv@molly.uucp> uunet!molly!vlcek (Jim Vlcek) writes: > In article <21klkf$r5n@cnn.sim.es.com> npratt@gecko.modsys (Nevin Pratt) > writes: > > In article Cw7@tigadmin.ml.com, kunal@passion.pilot.dmg.ml.com (Kunal > Singh) writes: > > > Has anyone successfully used this application ? > > > > > > > Yes, but ONLY on a *GENUINE* NeXT CD-ROM drive. Others are probably not > > audio-command equivalent, even if they have the same basic SONY mechanism. > > I've got a genuine NeXT CD-ROM, and CDPlayer doesn't work for me. > > If I simply insert an audio CD into the drive, it horks it back out, and the > console log reads (after a bunch of error messages no doubt due to Workspace > trying to open the CD as a data disk): > > Jul 13 00:56:13 Workspace: Mounted scsi disk at /cdaudio > cdaudio.util: CANNOT OPEN CDPlayer > > Double-clicking CDPlayer produces a panel saying "Couldn't open CD-ROM drive, > OK?". Inserting the CD at that point does no good. > > My setup: slab w/ 105MB internal at scsi 1, Fujitsu 660MB external at scsi 0, > and the CD-ROM drive at scsi 4 (as sd2). I tend to believe the guy who said > that the program is hardwired to expect the CD-ROM at sd1. > Nope, mine works, and it is at sd2. According to /usr/adm/messages: Jul 13 13:58:17 lkba mach: SCSI 53C90A Controller, Target 7, as sc0 at 0x2114000 Jul 13 13:58:17 lkba mach: TOSHIBA MK538FB Rev 6030 as sd0 at sc0 target 1 lun 0 Jul 13 13:58:17 lkba mach: Disk Label: Disk Jul 13 13:58:17 lkba mach: Disk Capacity 1172MB, Device Block 512 bytes Jul 13 13:58:17 lkba mach: SEAGATE ST1480 Rev 5830 as sd1 at sc0 target 2 lun 0 Jul 13 13:58:17 lkba mach: Disk Label: MyDisk Jul 13 13:58:17 lkba mach: Disk Capacity 406MB, Device Block 512 bytes Jul 13 13:58:17 lkba mach: SONY CD-ROM CDU-541 Rev 2.6a as sd2 at sc0 target 3 lun 0 Jul 13 13:58:17 lkba mach: sd2: UNIT ATTENTION Jul 13 13:58:17 lkba mach: Waiting for drive to come ready Jul 13 13:58:17 lkba mach: ...................
From: iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: HELP with DPT controller and NS/FIP Date: 14 Jul 1993 16:46:40 GMT Organization: UCLA, Anderson Graduate School Of Management Message-ID: <221d9g$99q@news.mic.ucla.edu> References: <wagner.1448.742603226@main.mndly.umn.edu> I am not sure about the ALR, but it looks like it is a DPT problem. The solution might be to use your EISA utility to set the DPT's IRQ level to 15-edge instead of 14-edge, and to make sure that you set a transfer rate of only 5MB/s rather than 10MB/s (even if your harddisks can do 10MB/s). If this doesn't work, check with someone who has successfully installed the DPT card on an ALR, copy *all* the EISA settings, and try again. Good luck. /ivo welch
From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT mail what options do I have? Message-ID: <69291@mimsy.umd.edu> Date: 14 Jul 93 16:56:38 GMT References: <16468@blue.cis.pitt.edu> Sender: news@mimsy.umd.edu Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742 In article <16468@blue.cis.pitt.edu> gmdst4+@pitt.edu (Gretchen M Dick) writes: > I need to know if I can somehow receive NeXTmail on a non-nextmail > Machine and download it onto my NeXT via a modem and then read it. the brute force way is: a. read mail on remote machine using mail, elm, mh, xmh or whatever you like (I prefer elm) b. save the NeXTmail message (it looks like scrambled characters packed in 80 char wide blocks) to a file, headers and all. the command to do this depends on the mail program - in elm its "s" for save. c. transfer the file to you next using a comm package (like tip or kermit) or a floppy or cut&paste or whatever - your choice. d. cat the-file-that-you-transferred >> /usr/spool/mail/your-login-name (be sure to change the hyphenated names above as appropriate and use >> not >) e. open Mail.app (.e.g open -a Mail) f. select the get new mail menu g. you can delete the copies outside the mail program. -- Alex Blakemore alex@cs.umd.edu NeXT mail accepted -------------------------------------------------------------- "Without an engaged and motivated human being at the keyboard, the computer is just another dumb box." William Raspberry
From: catapmsd@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Matt Stephen DeBergalis) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXT Shirts Date: 14 Jul 1993 17:35:33 GMT Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology Message-ID: <221g55$rgt@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu> Keywords: NeXT Does anybody know where I can get one of the funky NeXT white shirts? Later -- Matt DeBergalis
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: tlm@tantalus.scl.ameslab.gov (Dr. T. L. Marchioro II) Subject: Re: NeXT mail what options do I have? Message-ID: <CA61Co.4q@news.iastate.edu> Sender: news@news.iastate.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA References: <16468@blue.cis.pitt.edu> Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1993 17:45:59 GMT Gretchen M Dick writes []I need to know if I can somehow receive NeXTmail on a non-nextmail []Machine and download it onto my NeXT via a modem and then read it. [] []I would like to do this so that I could receive NeXTmail with []attachments. [] []Any Ideas? Well, a couple of ideas: first, if you are running SLIP off of your NeXT (and if you have a good modem, i.e. 9600 or greater, I recommend SLIP 100%) then you can just "bounce" the message along to your NeXT while you are SLIPped up, or, better yet, have SLIPCommander by Gary Chang download your mail for you automatically. Alternatively, if you use some other connection protocol, save the message to a file, port it to your NeXT using tip, kermit, or whatever, and then just mail that file to yourself, either from the command line prompt> mail myself < name_of_file or else in Mail.app itself. [] []PS is this a FAQ? [] I'd say so. Hope this helps --- Tom PS: There are some more complicated ways to unencode NeXTmail, and maybe someone has even written a TickleService for it by now, but I find just mailing myself the message and reading it in Mail.app the easiest. -- Dr. Thomas L. Marchioro II Two-wheeled theoretical physicist Center for Physical and Computational Mathematics 515-294-6629 Ames Laboratory 515-233-1216 (home) Ames, Iowa 50011 tlm@iastate.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: faught@berserk.ssc.gov (Ed Faught) Subject: making gzip Message-ID: <1993Jul14.175919.265@sunova.ssc.gov> Sender: usenet@sunova.ssc.gov (News Admin) Organization: Superconducting Super Collider Laboratory Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1993 17:59:19 GMT When I try to make gzip the compiler complains about missing header files. I have to have overlooked something obvious; what? -- Ed_Faught@ssc.gov WA9WDM wouldn't dare to speak for the Superconducting Super Collider Laboratory
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc From: woo@ra-next.arc.nasa.gov (Alex Woo x6010 227-6 rm 315) Subject: ioctl failures Message-ID: <1993Jul14.182251.28924@news.arc.nasa.gov> Keywords: ioctl,pipe,texview Sender: usenet@news.arc.nasa.gov Organization: NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1993 18:22:51 GMT Problem: unable to open connections with either gnuplot, texview, pft, etc. Here is a sample error message: ioctl: Operation not supported on socket open: can't open connection to Workspace on local host. Does anyone have any suggestions for this problem? Is this caused by file protections? Thanks. Please e-mail reponses directly. -- ============================================================== Alex Woo, MS 227-6 woo@ames.arc.nasa.gov NASA Ames Research Center NASAMAIL ACWOO Moffett Field, CA 94035-1000 SPANET 24582::WOO (415) 604-6010 (FAX) 604-4357 {hplabs,decwrl,uunet}!ames!woo Disclaimer: These are not official statements of NASA or EMCC.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) Subject: Hardware Vendors with Good Educational Discounts Message-ID: <1993Jul14.161759.5593@weston.com> Sender: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1993 16:17:59 GMT I am interested to find a good 486 that is capable of running NS/FIP. In addition, the vendor must give good deals for education. Any help is appreciated. Thanks -- Wes Spears <-------> jspears@weston.com (NeXTMail Welcome) The Weston Group 8524 Highway 6 North, 162, Houston, TX 77095
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: cajho@uno.edu Subject: NeXTSTEP FIP hacker opinions, mach Message-ID: <1993Jul14.192942.5432@cs.uno.edu> Sender: news@cs.uno.edu Organization: University of New Orleans Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1993 19:29:42 GMT O.k., I know NeXTSTEP is real pretty and friendly and all that, but what do the unix hackers out there think of it? What are its technical merits? Where can I get some info on the net about Mach? (Don't refer me to books I can't find in my cruddy school library...I'm broke :( ) Does is run reasonably fast on a reasonable machine for it? (I know with its overhead it'll never be a Linux in this category, but...) Does it use shared libraries? There was a real dearth of technical information about NeXTSTEP FIP on the next ftp server...if someone could point me towards or mail me some, I would be very grateful. Also, I was hoping that there is someone out there w/NSFIP installed on a dx66 system that has run some popular benchmarks on it, or perhaps could run one or two short ones I have. Also--is there a readily available (hopefully free) , decent assembler for NSFIP yet? Or do NeXTSTEP folks not do assembly? :) Thanks in advance. -- Craig Johnston | Q: How do you stop Bill Gates from drowning? cajho@uno.edu | A: Shoot him.
From: kurhajet@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Robert Kurhajetz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: address info on HSD, Inc. Message-ID: <39343@oasys.dt.navy.mil> Date: 14 Jul 93 20:09:53 GMT Distribution: na Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD Hello - After trying to locate an address and phone number for HSD - I was fortunate enough to locate it and thought I would pass it along. HSD Microcomputer U.S., Inc. 1095 E. Duane Ave., Ste. 209 Sunnyvale, CA 94086 (408) 774-1400 phone (408) 774-1402 fax
From: ernest@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu (Ernest Prabhakar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Relationship between SGML and RTF? Converters? Date: 14 Jul 1993 20:43:47 GMT Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena Distribution: world Message-ID: <221r63INNou5@gap.caltech.edu> Hello, I've started playing around with Emacs 19, and I've noticed they are heavily into SGML (as much of the Unix world is). NeXT (and PCs, for that matter) seem to use RTF for a similar purpose. So I was wondering: a) What exactly is SGML? b) How similar in concept and usage is it to RTF? c) Are there any NeXT tools for manipulating SGML? d) Is there a converter between them? Is that even a meaningful question? e) Should I even worry about this? Forgive my ignorance. Thanks for your help, - Ernie P. -- Ernest N. Prabhakar Caltech High Energy Physics Member, League for Programming Freedom (league@prep.ai.mit.edu) CaJUN President NeXTMail:ernest@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu "...and ourselves, your servants for Jesus sake." - II Cor 4:5b #import <std/disclaimer.h>
From: glenn@rightbrain.com (Glenn Reid) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: * * * RightBrain Sale: 50377777106ff through July (RTF) * * * Message-ID: <1268@rtbrain.rightbrain.com> Date: 14 Jul 93 21:18:02 GMT References: <1993Jul13.103215.16709@prim> Sender: glenn@rightbrain.com Dave Griffiths writes > Whatever happened to Jack Reynolds? > > Dave Griffiths Jack left RightBrain in February. He's at Mass Micro now, I believe. -- Glenn Reid NeXTmail: glenn@rightbrain.com RightBrain Software 415-326-2974 (NeXTfax 326-2977) Palo Alto, California Electronic Frontier Foundation, member #054
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: df@watershed.com (Dirk P. Fromhein) Subject: Re: Intel GX Machines for NeXTStep 486 Message-ID: <CA5qBx.vJ@ripple.uunet> Sender: jaeger@ripple.uunet (Dirk P. Fromhein) Organization: Watershed Technologies, Inc. References: <CA4oG4.Fur@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1993 13:47:57 GMT Not to mention that it has a 64bit CPU => memory bus. And is the only PC I would not hide in a very dark closet. It looks somewhat like a NeXT but in white (ie: it looks like a Sun). One has to take the machine apart to really appreciate it, it is an incredible design. Absolutely beautiful. It's not for everyone, it's a tiny bit more expensive, but for some people it's worth it. Dirk Fromhein df@watershed.com Watershed technologies, inc. BTW: His prices weren't all that bad, we carry the same machines at similar prices. Also Pentium boxes with a PCI bus will be available in late Q4 '93. In article <CA4oG4.Fur@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> davis@sonata.cc.purdue.edu (Robert Davis) writes: > In article <1993Jul13.195715.29063@glv.uucp> andersen@reality.glv.com (Robert Andersen) writes: > > > > Actually these prices are not very low. I spent $5555 for a > > Gateway 2000 66V and this is what I got: > > > [...] > > > >For $135 less I have 800 more megabyte hard drive, modem, and some software. > > > > Yeah, but the GX is EISA, not ISA, it's SCSI controller is > SCSI-2, and it includes sound on-the-board. > > > Rob > -- > | Robert Davis davis@sonata.cc.purdue.edu > | "Look up, Hannah." NeXT Mail accepted > --
From: glenn@rightbrain.com (Glenn Reid) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT Shirts Message-ID: <1269@rtbrain.rightbrain.com> Date: 14 Jul 93 21:20:37 GMT References: <221g55$rgt@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu> Sender: glenn@rightbrain.com Matt Stephen DeBergalis writes > Does anybody know where I can get one of the funky NeXT white shirts? If you mean the shirts with "NeXT" on them in Futura Condensed Extra Bold with the "N" and "T" in gray (leaving the "eX" standing out in black), the way cool "eX NeXT" T-shirts, the answer is that we designed them, and we sell them for only $15. Call us at the number below to get one in either L or XL. -- Glenn Reid NeXTmail: info@rightbrain.com RightBrain Software 415-326-2974 (NeXTfax 326-2977) Palo Alto, California Electronic Frontier Foundation, member #054
From: mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Alex) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: CDPlayer.app Message-ID: <88421@ut-emx.uucp> Date: 14 Jul 93 21:32:00 GMT References: <CA3AB7.ADv@molly.uucp> Sender: news@ut-emx.uucp Organization: Klatu Verata Necktie In article <CA3AB7.ADv@molly.uucp> , writes: >My setup: slab w/ 105MB internal at scsi 1, Fujitsu 660MB external at scsi 0, >and the CD-ROM drive at scsi 4 (as sd2). I tend to believe the guy who said >that the program is hardwired to expect the CD-ROM at sd1. > >Is this a FAQ yet? Apparently CDPlayer.app expects to see a CD-ROM drive at sd1 unless you have "Public Window Server" enabled in the Unix Preferences dialogue. Being a public window server compromises your security on a network but it does let CDPlayer.app find CD-ROM drives at positions other than sd1. It isn't in the FAQ yet but it is a FAQ. ---------------------------------- Alex Currier HotLine Technical Support Texas Union MicroCenter, UT Austin ----------------------------------
From: catapmsd@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Matt Stephen DeBergalis) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT Shirts Date: 15 Jul 1993 01:44:02 GMT Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology Message-ID: <222cp2$rc@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu> References: <1269@rtbrain.rightbrain.com> Keywords: NeXT In article <1269@rtbrain.rightbrain.com> glenn@rightbrain.com (Glenn Reid) writes: > If you mean the shirts with "NeXT" on them in Futura Condensed Extra Bold > with the "N" and "T" in gray (leaving the "eX" standing out in black), > the way cool "eX NeXT" T-shirts, the answer is that we designed them, and > we sell them for only $15. Call us at the number below to get one > in either L or XL. > Well, I was actually referring to the white T-Shirt with the classic black NeXT logo on the front. I guess they're not quite as funky. -matt debergalis
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: john@wpa.com (John Bartley) Subject: Re: * * * RightBrain Sale: 50377777106ff through July (RTF) * * * Message-ID: <1993Jul15.033925.15485@nimno.wpa.com> Sender: john@nimno.wpa.com Organization: Workgroup Productivity Associates References: <1268@rtbrain.rightbrain.com> Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1993 03:39:25 GMT In article <1268@rtbrain.rightbrain.com> glenn@rightbrain.com (Glenn Reid) writes: > Dave Griffiths writes > > Whatever happened to Jack Reynolds? > > > > Dave Griffiths > > Jack left RightBrain in February. He's at Mass Micro now, I believe. Does anyone know if he has a working e-mail address?
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago, academic Computer Center Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1993 01:17:28 CDT From: <U54876@uicvm.uic.edu> Message-ID: <93196.011728U54876@uicvm.uic.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NS on IBM Thinkpad? Does anyone (everyone) know if NS will run on IBM's Thinkpad. Specifically the color one - I think it's the 700C or something like that. My dad is sold on the Thinkpad, and I might have him sold on NS - if it runs on it. Sorry for the basic question, but I just don't know that much about the IBM's. Thanks! -tom nawara nirvana@boss.math.uic.edu ideaLABS
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: talus.com!serge (Serguei Bakhteiarov) Subject: Pen-based computing for the NeXT ??? Message-ID: <1993Jul14.230509.1172@talus.com> Keywords: LightPen Sender: serge@talus.com Organization: Talus Corporation Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1993 23:05:09 GMT Hi, The Talus Corp. already did the driver for a LightPen from Design Technology under NS/FIP. It just works...:-) -- Serguei Bakhteiarov Chief of software engineering Talus Corp. 10602 Chapel Hill Drive Houston TX 77099 ph: (713) 561 07 00 -- Serguei Bakhteiarov Chief of software engineering Talus Corp. 10602 Chapel Hill Drive
From: cph@biostat.washington.edu (Chisheng Huang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: commands to turn a next laser printer on and off Date: 15 Jul 1993 07:13:52 GMT Organization: Biostatistics, School of Public Health, Univ. of Wash. Distribution: na Message-ID: <22303g$c8n@news.u.washington.edu> I'd like to be able to turn a NeXT laser printer on and off while my NeXT computer is running. Does anybody know what commands I should use? Thank you. Chisheng Huang cph@belgica.stat.washington.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: jhall@madeline.umhc.umn.edu (Jeff Hallgren) Subject: Re: NeXT Shirts Message-ID: <CA7HMp.5sw@news2.cis.umn.edu> Sender: news@news2.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: University of Minnesota References: <222cp2$rc@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu> Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1993 12:29:06 GMT In article <222cp2$rc@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu> catapmsd@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Matt Stephen DeBergalis) writes: > Well, I was actually referring to the white T-Shirt with the classic black > NeXT logo on the front. I guess they're not quite as funky. > > -matt debergalis Hermann Marketing 1400 North Price Road St. Louis, MO 63132-2308 1-800-972-1331 fax (314) 432-1818 Classic NeXT logo on front NX112 S-XL $6.95 each 3.1 NEXTSTEP logo on front NX114 M-XXL $7.95 each My experience has been that the "classic" t-shirt is smaller than the labeled size, especially after washing. You should get their brochure, it has quite a bit of stuff with the NeXT logo on it. (3.1 materials include the brochure.) Jeff (Jeff Hallgren) jhall@tahiti.umhc.umn.edu
From: kschulz@iva.k8.rt.bosch.de (Kay Schulz K8/IVA Tel. ++49-7121-35-1341) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Floppy Bug? NeXT 3.2 BUG or what? Message-ID: <124@boschrt.rt.bosch.de.bosch.de> Date: 15 Jul 93 13:00:29 GMT Sender: news@rt.bosch.de.bosch.de Organization: Robert Bosch GmbH., Reutlingen, Germany. Hi here the short description of the bug. If you want to know the whole story read all. I have an EISA/VLB Board with Adaptec 1542B and 486/66Mhz SIS Chipsatz, Award Bios (:-(), ATI GUP VLB and 32 MB RAM When I want to boot, the following message is printed: Floppy Controller Reset: Command Timeout fd0: Sector 0 cmd = Read; fd_ioreq.timeout exceeded: Retrying This happens twice then instead of Retrying Recalibrating occurs. This happens 4 or 5 times then it says failed I get some messages. At the end it says: RDP........(type 'c' to continue) but with c nothing happens. Any idea? I installed NSFIP on an ISA Board with AMI BIOS 16MB RAM and ADAptec 1542B and ATI GU ISA BUS. Everything went fine. I changed the board and card and now I had colours and a fast machine (look above). I could mount floppies and so on. Then I decided to install all, the developpers, too so I had to reinstall everything. I tried, but the message above stopped me. DOes anyone know the problem? Isn't it strange that it works when NSFIP is installed and it works with all other OS? Only the boot disk at boot time. But the disk is ok, with the other board I can boot and install. :-( --- /********************************************************************/ /* Kay Schulz, Rheinstr. 24, 72768 Reutlingen, Germany */ /* 07121 / 60 19 61 privat */ /* 07121 / 35-1341 geschaeftlich */ /* */ /* kschulz@iva.k8.rt.bosch.de */ /* */ /* Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent. */ /* -- Salvor Hardin */ /* */ /********************************************************************/
From: kschulz@iva.k8.rt.bosch.de (Kay Schulz K8/IVA Tel. ++49-7121-35-1341) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: AIR Board???? Message-ID: <125@boschrt.rt.bosch.de.bosch.de> Date: 15 Jul 93 13:01:00 GMT Sender: news@rt.bosch.de.bosch.de Organization: Robert Bosch GmbH., Reutlingen, Germany. Hi where can I buy the AIR EISA VLB Board? What RAMS does it need (SIMMS or 72 pin RAM)? How much is it? Can I get it in Germany? /********************************************************************/ /* Kay Schulz, Rheinstr. 24, 72768 Reutlingen, Germany */ /* 07121 / 60 19 61 privat */ /* 07121 / 35-1341 geschaeftlich */ /* */ /* kschulz@iva.k8.rt.bosch.de */ /* */ /* Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent. */ /* -- Salvor Hardin */ /* */ /********************************************************************/ --- /********************************************************************/ /* Kay Schulz, Rheinstr. 24, 72768 Reutlingen, Germany */ /* 07121 / 60 19 61 privat */ /* 07121 / 35-1341 geschaeftlich */ /* */ /* kschulz@iva.k8.rt.bosch.de */ /* */ /* Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent. */ /* -- Salvor Hardin */ /* */ /********************************************************************/
From: arzt@dccs.upenn.edu (Noam H. Arzt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NS/I and portables... Message-ID: <136117@netnews.upenn.edu> Date: 15 Jul 93 13:43:46 GMT Sender: news@netnews.upenn.edu Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware Anyone had any luck with NeXTstep/Intel on portables using either PCMCIA or parallel-port based SCSI controllers or ethernet adaptors? I would love to run NeXTstep on a TI, NEC or Toshiba, but the prospect of getting a docking station just for the bus given the advances in PCMCIA is troublesome (and expensive!). -- Mr. Noam Arzt 215/898-3029 (voice) Director, Special Projects 215/898-9348 (FAX) University of Pennsylvania arzt@dccs.upenn.edu Data Communications & Computing Services (NeXTmail is OK) Suite 221A, 3401 Walnut Street, Philadelphia, PA 19104
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: faught@berserk.ssc.gov (Ed Faught) Subject: Re: making gzip Message-ID: <1993Jul15.140613.24751@sunova.ssc.gov> Sender: usenet@sunova.ssc.gov (News Admin) Organization: Superconducting Super Collider Laboratory References: <1993Jul14.175919.265@sunova.ssc.gov> Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1993 14:06:13 GMT In article <1993Jul14.175919.265@sunova.ssc.gov> faught@berserk.ssc.gov (Ed Faught) writes: Many of the people replying to the original post wanted to know more, so here's what happens: berserk:gzip-1.2.3 17> ./configure --prefix=/tmp checking for gcc checking how to run the C preprocessor checking for underline in external names checking for assembler checking for install checking for AIX checking for minix/config.h checking for POSIXized ISC checking for DYNIX/ptx libseq checking for ANSI C header files checking for string.h checking for stdlib.h checking for memory.h checking for fcntl.h checking for time.h checking for unistd.h checking for utime.h checking for sys/utime.h checking for directory library header checking for dirent.h checking for sys/ndir.h checking for sys/dir.h checking for ndir.h checking for closedir return value checking for Xenix checking for return type of signal handlers checking for size_t in sys/types.h checking if `#!' works in shell scripts creating config.status creating Makefile berserk:gzip-1.2.3 18> make gcc -c -DASMV -DNO_UTIME_H=1 -DVOID_CLOSEDIR=1 -DRETSIGTYPE=int -O gzip.c gzip.c:51: ctype.h: No such file or directory gzip.c:52: sys/types.h: No such file or directory gzip.c:53: signal.h: No such file or directory gzip.c:54: sys/stat.h: No such file or directory gzip.c:55: errno.h: No such file or directory gzip.h:22: stdio.h: No such file or directory gzip.h:24: string.h: No such file or directory gzip.c:68: time.h: No such file or directory gzip.c:72: fcntl.h: No such file or directory gzip.c:80: stdlib.h: No such file or directory gzip.c:149: sys/file.h: No such file or directory *** Exit 1 Stop. -- Ed_Faught@ssc.gov WA9WDM wouldn't dare to speak for the Superconducting Super Collider Laboratory
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware From: iraf@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Ira Frosch) Subject: Re: NS on IBM Thinkpad? Message-ID: <1993Jul15.135907.18113@rchland.ibm.com> Sender: icf@oliverwjones.rchland.ibm.com (Ira Frosch) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1993 13:59:07 GMT Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM References: <93196.011728U54876@uicvm.uic.edu> Organization: IBM Rochester In article <93196.011728U54876@uicvm.uic.edu>, <U54876@uicvm.uic.edu> writes: |> Does anyone (everyone) know if NS will run on IBM's Thinkpad. Specifically |> the color one - I think it's the 700C or something like that. My dad is sold |> on the Thinkpad, and I might have him sold on NS - if it runs on it. |> Sorry for the basic question, but I just don't know that much about the IBM's. |> Thanks! |> |> |> -tom nawara |> nirvana@boss.math.uic.edu |> ideaLABS Actually, according to my latest Thinkpad price list, there are a few color ones. The brand new 720C won't work, because it's Microchannel. I don't think the 700C is and neither is the 350C (they're both ISA), BUT, I would highly doubt that you can right now (translate to "probably never for the 1992/1993 models :-(. I was even surprised when I saw that there was even ValuePoints on the original compatibility list. -- Ira Frosch
From: jtrimble@jpljpt .jpl.nasa.gov (Jay P. Trimble) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NS on IBM Thinkpad? Date: 15 Jul 1993 14:40:22 GMT Organization: Image Analysis Systems Group, JPL Message-ID: <223q8m$oo6@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov> References: <93196.011728U54876@uicvm.uic.edu> I have asked several people at NeXT about this, and they all say that NS will not run on the Thinkpad. I'm told the reason is that the Thinkpad docking station uses MCA, and that the docking station would be the only way to load NS onto the machine. There have been some new Thinkpads announced recently using ISA instead of MCA, so perhaps NS may run on these. In article <93196.011728U54876@uicvm.uic.edu> <U54876@uicvm.uic.edu> writes: > Does anyone (everyone) know if NS will run on IBM's Thinkpad. Specifically > the color one - I think it's the 700C or something like that. My dad is sold > on the Thinkpad, and I might have him sold on NS - if it runs on it. > Sorry for the basic question, but I just don't know that much about the IBM's. > Thanks! > > > -tom nawara > nirvana@boss.math.uic.edu > ideaLABS
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago, academic Computer Center Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1993 09:32:54 CDT From: <U54876@uicvm.uic.edu> Message-ID: <93196.093254U54876@uicvm.uic.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: commands to turn a next laser printer on and off Distribution: na References: <22303g$c8n@news.u.washington.edu> In article <22303g$c8n@news.u.washington.edu>, cph@biostat.washington.edu (Chisheng Huang) says: > >I'd like to be able to turn a NeXT laser printer on and off >while my NeXT computer is running. Does anybody know what >commands I should use? Thank you. The command is /usr/etc/nppower Use "nppower on" to turn it on, "nppower off" to turn it off. So, if you've just printed something and now you want to turn off the printer, you type (in a terminal window) : /usr/etc/nppower off. Or just include an alias in your .cshrc file like: alias off /usr/etc/nppower off and then you only have to type "off". I'm sure other people have scripts that turn the printer off and on at/after certain times... -tom nawara nirvana@boss.math.uic.edu ideaLABS
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago, academic Computer Center Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1993 09:46:07 CDT From: <U54876@uicvm.uic.edu> Message-ID: <93196.094607U54876@uicvm.uic.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Canon hardware deal/NS on PPC A couple of months back my dream announcement was made: Canon and a few NeXT engineers weer going to form a small partnership in order to produce machines from NeXT's hardware specs. (i.e. the NRW) They said then that it would be June - July before things got rolling. I haven't heard a peep about it since. Has anyone heard any other news on this front, or does someone want to correct my information if it's wrong? Thanks. -tom nawara nirvana@boss.math.uic.edu ideaLABS
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: bublitz@mdd.comm.mot.com (Martin Bublitz) Subject: Re: NeXT Shirts Message-ID: <1993Jul15.152012.6302@mdd.comm.mot.com> Sender: news@mdd.comm.mot.com Organization: Motorola, Wireless Data Group - Richmond, BC References: <222cp2$rc@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu> <CA7HMp.5sw@news2.cis.umn.edu> Distribution: na Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1993 15:20:12 GMT In <CA7HMp.5sw@news2.cis.umn.edu> jhall@madeline.umhc.umn.edu (Jeff Hallgren) writes: >In article <222cp2$rc@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu> catapmsd@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu >(Matt Stephen DeBergalis) writes: >> Well, I was actually referring to the white T-Shirt with the classic black >> NeXT logo on the front. I guess they're not quite as funky. >> >> -matt debergalis > Hermann Marketing > 1400 North Price Road > St. Louis, MO 63132-2308 > 1-800-972-1331 > fax (314) 432-1818 > Classic NeXT logo on front NX112 S-XL $6.95 each > 3.1 NEXTSTEP logo on front NX114 M-XXL $7.95 each > My experience has been that the "classic" t-shirt is smaller than the >labeled size, especially after washing. You should get their brochure, it has quite >a bit of stuff with the NeXT logo on it. (3.1 materials include the brochure.) > Jeff >(Jeff Hallgren) jhall@tahiti.umhc.umn.edu Here is another place with various NeXT items for sale: NeXT Pencils $20.30 box of 100 NeXT Cross Pen $21.15 each NeXT Decals $75.00 box of 100 NeXT T-shirt $5.65 each - sizes S, M, L, XL (pre-shrunk) NeXT Turtle Neck $19.20 each - sizes S, M, L, XL NeXT Glass Mug $1.70 each NeXT Leather Folder $54.50 each NeXT Sweatshirt $19.20 each - sizes S, M, L, XL NeXT Tote-bag $ 6.25 each NeXT Mouse pad $ 9.67 each Orders can be taken 24 hours a day for domestic and overseas orders Phone: 800-972-1331, 314-432-1800 Fax: 314-432-1818 Method of payment: Purchase order, check, money order, or credit card Martin
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: emarinos@marcon.ka.sub.org (Evstathios Marinos) Subject: Re: commands to turn a next laser printer on and off Message-ID: <1993Jul15.141240.1022@marcon.ka.sub.org> Sender: emarinos@marcon.ka.sub.org (Evstathios Marinos) Organization: Marinos EDV - Consulting References: <22303g$c8n@news.u.washington.edu> Distribution: na Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1993 14:12:40 GMT In article <22303g$c8n@news.u.washington.edu> cph@biostat.washington.edu (Chisheng Huang) writes: \\ I'd like to be able to turn a NeXT laser printer on and off \\ while my NeXT computer is running. Does anybody know what \\ commands I should use? Thank you. \\ \\ Chisheng Huang \\ cph@belgica.stat.washington.edu \\ The command is nppower located in /usr/etc nppower on turnes the printer on and nppower off turnes the printer off Greetings Stathis -- Marinos EDV - Consulting | NEXTSTEP Software and Consulting Services Evstathios Marinos | Phone : +49 721 37 71 78 Gartenstr. 2 | Fax : +49 721 37 71 79 76133 Karlsruhe (GERMANY) | E-Mail: emarinos@marcon.ka.sub.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware From: tgall@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Tom Gall) Subject: Re: NS on IBM Thinkpad? Sender: news@rchland.ibm.com Message-ID: <1993Jul15.160812.37295@rchland.ibm.com> Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1993 16:08:12 GMT Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM References: <93196.011728U54876@uicvm.uic.edu> Organization: IBM Rochester In article <93196.011728U54876@uicvm.uic.edu>, <U54876@uicvm.uic.edu> writes: |> Does anyone (everyone) know if NS will run on IBM's Thinkpad. Specifically |> the color one - I think it's the 700C or something like that. My dad is sold |> on the Thinkpad, and I might have him sold on NS - if it runs on it. |> Sorry for the basic question, but I just don't know that much about the IBM's. |> Thanks! |> |> |> -tom nawara |> nirvana@boss.math.uic.edu |> ideaLABS The IBM Thinkpad 700C uses the 486 SLC processor. If I remember my hardware list correctly, the SLC processors are NOT on that list so indeed the 700C may not in fact work with NeXTSTEP. Then again, this doesn't mean it won't work either. After try various pieces of hardware, configurations, IRQs etc on my quest to get NS/FIP on a machine for myself, I found the best thing to do was just try it. Most dealers are open to letting folks test drive systems. Lets you as a user show them a thing or two as well if the installation works. Tom -- tgall@rchvmw2.vnet.ibm.com (work -- NeXTMail NOT ok) gypsy!servo@csn.org (home -- NeXTMail ok) _________________________________________________________________________ |o|Tom Gall "Where's the ka-boom? There was supposed |o| |o|Dept 45 N to be an earth shattering ka-boom!" |o| |o|Performance Tools III -- Marvin Martian ____ |o| |o|006-2 / B209 /\___\ |o| |o|IBM Rochester 3-4558 #include<std.disclaimer.h> \/___/ |o|
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: tim@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu (Tim Pugh) Subject: re shipping costs Message-ID: <CA7tC8.45H@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu> Organization: Johns Hopkins Continuing Professional Programs Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1993 16:48:07 GMT Last week I posted a complaint about the high cost of shipping for a software product I had purchased. The cost of shipping represented approximately 15% of the purchase cost and I had been in no great hurry to receive it. In response to my post, I received the following from the company that shipped the software in question. Not only is it wonderful customer relations but sheds some light on the Canadian/US border problem. I thought others might be interested: >Date: Mon, 12 Jul 93 22:15:32 -0600 >From: manzara@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (Leonard Manzara)>To: tim@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu >Subject: Re: Shipping Costs > >Mr. Pugh, > >I saw your posting in c.s.n.misc regarding shipping costs. After >reviewing our records, I noticed that you did not receive our >hard-copy brochure which outlines our shipping policy, so you must >have purchased the Kit based on information only in the internet news >announcement. Unfortunately, this announcement makes no mention of >shipping costs, so we apologize for any misunderstanding that has >arisen. > >We use Federal Express because most of our customers want quick and >reliable delivery. They also act as customs brokers for international >shipments, and fully insure against loss or damage. They are also >much more reliable than any other couriers we have used, including the >Canadian and US Postal services, but consequently are somewhat more >expensive. We use their FedEx Letter service to ship our software. >This costs us $24.50 to ship to US destinations, so we are not passing >the full costs on to our customers. Their Priority Service costs >$38.00 CDN for the same package. They do not offer 2nd day economy >for international shipments originating from Canada. > >We are a small company, so we have designed our shipping system to be >simple, and to give what the majority of customers seem to want: fast >and reliable delivery. Since you are dissatisfied with this policy, >we will refund you the shipping costs of $20.00 CDN. This will be >done through your Visa account, and should show up as a credit on your >next monthly statement. Please let us know if this is not processed >correctly. > >By the way, I assume the $5.10 charged to you is for some sort of >State or Federal tax that you are liable for when importing goods. >Documentation for this should have accompanied the package (although >customs forms sometimes arrive later, by mail). Duty or tariff should >NOT have been charged, since software is duty-exempt under the >Canada-US Free Trade Agreement. > >Again, we apologize for this misunderstanding. And, as always, feel >free to contact us if you have any questions or concerns. > >Regards, > >Leonard Manzara manzara@cpsc.UCalgary.CA >Trillium Sound Research Inc. (403)284-9278 Fax:(403)282-6778 -- Tim Pugh |MicroCALL Services tim@aplcenmp.apl.JHU.EDU |8713 Briarcroft Lane |Laurel, MD 20708-1355 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: Karl_Kraft@ensuing.com Subject: Re: commands to turn a next laser printer on and off Message-ID: <CA7nFM.24K@ensuing.com> Sender: karl@ensuing.com (Karl Kraft) Organization: Ensuing Technologies Inc. References: <22303g$c8n@news.u.washington.edu> Distribution: na Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1993 14:40:34 GMT In article <22303g$c8n@news.u.washington.edu> cph@biostat.washington.edu (Chisheng Huang) writes: > I'd like to be able to turn a NeXT laser printer on and off > while my NeXT computer is running. Does anybody know what > commands I should use? Thank you. > > Chisheng Huang > cph@belgica.stat.washington.edu > /usr/etc/nppower on /usr/etc/nppower off -- _________ Karl Kraft Karl_Kraft@ensuing.com (NeXT mail)
From: imj1@merhaba.cc.columbia.edu (Imad M Jureidini) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: 3COM Etherlink III problems Message-ID: <1993Jul15.153406.3434@news.columbia.edu> Date: 15 Jul 93 15:34:06 GMT Sender: usenet@news.columbia.edu (The Network News) Organization: Columbia University Hi! I recently installed a 3COM 3C509TP ethernet adapter on my machine. It is setup at IRQ 15 and IO port 360. I know it works, since I have been able to use it under DOS. However, when I run NEXTSTEP/FIP, I cannot reach anything else than my own computer. When I try telneting somewhere, I get a "network is unreachable" message. I cannot ping anything else than my computer either. Another problem I have that might be related to this one happens when I try telneting to my self. It just write "trying *my adress*" and just sits there. Has anyone succeded in getting this network card to work? If yes, what IRQ and IO base address are you using? Thanks a lot! ******************************************************************************* * imj1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu Imad "Hexabyte" Jureidini * *******************************************************************************
From: imj1@konichiwa.cc.columbia.edu (Imad M Jureidini) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: 3COM 3C509 problems... Message-ID: <1993Jul15.154402.4072@news.columbia.edu> Date: 15 Jul 93 15:44:02 GMT Sender: usenet@news.columbia.edu (The Network News) Organization: Columbia University Hi! I recently installed a 3COM 3C509TP ethernet adapter on my machine. It is setup at IRQ 15 and IO port 360. I know it works, since I have been able to use it under DOS. However, when I run NEXTSTEP/FIP, I cannot reach anything else than my own computer. When I try telneting somewhere, I get a "network is unreachable" message. I cannot ping anything else than my computer either. Another problem I have that might be related to this one happens when I try telneting to my self. It just write "trying *my adress*" and just sits there. Has anyone succeded in getting this network card to work? If yes, what IRQ and IO base address are you using? Thanks a lot! ******************************************************************************* * imj1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu Imad "Hexabyte" Jureidini * *******************************************************************************
From: gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Why are Docs in Pkgs. on CD-ROM? Date: 15 Jul 1993 18:00:03 GMT Organization: University of Maryland, College Park Message-ID: <2245v3$pe0@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> Can anyone explain to me why Next puts it Dev. docs in those packages on their cd-roms, thus making it necessary to use hard disk space? CD-ROMS hold hundreds of MB of data. Can't think of a better use for cd-rom than to hold those docs. Thanks Robert
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: eboltz@acoustica.mrd.bldrdoc.gov (Eric S. Boltz) Subject: MacDraw 2 eps,tiff,whatever? Message-ID: <CA7t8p.7pD@dove.nist.gov> Sender: news@dove.nist.gov Organization: NIST Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1993 16:46:00 GMT I have some MacDraw files (DRWGD2 in the header) that I need to convert into something for editing on either a NeXT or PC. Anything out there (note these are not PICT files)?? thanks in advance, Eric -- Eric S. Boltz, M.S.E. *eboltz@nist.gov* Materials Research Engineer eboltz@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu National Institute of Standards and Technology NeXTMail Accepted (Ph.D. Candidate, Johns Hopkins University) My views, opinions and statements in no way reflect those of the U.S. Gov't, the U.S. Department of Commerce or NIST.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) Subject: Re: Why are Docs in Pkgs. on CD-ROM? Message-ID: <1993Jul15.180818.3268@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: DSO, Stanford University References: <2245v3$pe0@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> Date: Thu, 15 Jul 93 18:08:18 GMT L. Anathea Brooks writes > Can anyone explain to me why Next puts it Dev. docs > in those packages on their cd-roms, thus making it > necessary to use hard disk space? CD-ROMS hold > hundreds of MB of data. Can't think of a better use > for cd-rom than to hold those docs. The docs are also available unpackaged in /NEXTSTEP_Dev_3.1/NextLibrary. The pkgs are provided because installing onto a HD using them is much faster than copying the uncompressed files from the CD-ROM. -- - Stefano Pagiola Food Research Institute, Stanford University spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged) spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
Organization: Queen's University at Kingston Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1993 11:18:44 EDT From: <HARRAPR@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> Message-ID: <93196.111844HARRAPR@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Hardware Problem - Failed Test... Now that there is no c.s.n.hardware, I guess this is the place to post this... I have a NextDimension Cube with two hard drives and an optical drive, internally, CD-ROM and floppy and Modem, externally. When I've been using the cube for quite a while I sometimes get a system panic, after which the NeXT won't restart - when I try to restart it says "failed system test" and hangs totally. This has only happened in the last few weeks, when the weather has been hot. One of the hard drives is a fujitsu, and they run quite hot. So I suspect that the problem is overheating. After awhile the cube boots normally. It all sort of fits. Has anybody else had similar problems, or am I missing something here? Any insights would be appreciated.... Rob Harrap Geological Sciences Queen's University Kingston, Ont. Harrapr@qucdn.queensu.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Subject: Re: Why are Docs in Pkgs. on CD-ROM? Message-ID: <1993Jul15.184806.3925@digifix.com> Sender: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Organization: Digital Fix Development References: <2245v3$pe0@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1993 18:48:06 GMT L. Anathea Brooks writes > > Can anyone explain to me why Next puts it Dev. docs > in those packages on their cd-roms, thus making it > necessary to use hard disk space? CD-ROMS hold > hundreds of MB of data. Can't think of a better use > for cd-rom than to hold those docs. > > Thanks > > Robert > Can anyone explain to me why people are so Gung Ho about flaming NeXT for no reason at all? If you had bothered to look on the CD, you would have seen /NextLibrary/Documentation on both the USER and DEVELOPER CDs. Both are populated with the contents of the .pkg files (which are alot easier to install onto a hard drive). Its bad enough that we've got people complaining about 2.0 software not running on 3.1..... -- - Scott Anguish - sanguish@digifix.com (NextMail) next-announce@digifix.com (comp.sys.next.announce submissions)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: jds@aplpy.jhuapl.edu (John D Stanhope) Subject: ATI & Adaptec in DELL ? Message-ID: <1993Jul15.195157.15825@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu> Sender: news@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Lab Date: Thu, 15 Jul 93 19:51:57 GMT I heard that the ATI EISA card and the Adpatec scsi card are incompatible with each other in a DELL machine. You will get this type of errors AHA interupt: bad status ff sd0 INVALID STATUS (Internal error): FATAL ERROR The hard disk is still usable though, for a little while that is then it will get tons of write errors and eventually panic the system. Someone who has a 450ME informed me of this. I have a 450DE. Can anyone confirm or deny this? What can I do to remedy the situation short of returning my card and getting another one? Will ISA buslogic card work in place of the Adaptec? If it doesn't, what's the lowest price for a DPT 2012/90 EISA controller? Thanks John Stanhope
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: tmaas@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Tony Maas) Subject: Re: Hardware Problem - Failed Test... Sender: news@rchland.ibm.com Message-ID: <1993Jul15.201230.23117@rchland.ibm.com> Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1993 20:12:30 GMT Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM References: <93196.111844HARRAPR@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> Organization: IBM Rochester In article <93196.111844HARRAPR@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>, <HARRAPR@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> writes: |> Now that there is no c.s.n.hardware, I guess this is the place to post |> this... There is a comp.sys.next.hardware bb. Just posted to it. :) Tony Maas tmaas@rchland.vnet.ibm.com
From: kurhajet@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Robert Kurhajetz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Seeking information on OMG and CORBA Message-ID: <39434@oasys.dt.navy.mil> Date: 15 Jul 93 20:38:15 GMT Distribution: na Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD Hello - This is probably not the best place to seek this info but I thought I would give a try since NeXT had become a member of the organization - does anyone out there have an address for the Object Management Group OMG ? I am scouting out whatever info I can on CORBA and any other variants of the OMGs' efforts. Thanks in advance. Bob K. e-mail bob@monet.dt.navy.mil NeXTMail rk@priscilla.dt.navy.mil Bob Kurhajetz U S Navy CD NSWC Code 341 Bethesda, MD 20084
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: jamast00@bigdaddy.mik.uky.edu (John A. Mastrolia) Subject: Re: commands to turn a next laser printer on and off Message-ID: <jamast00.742765121@mik.uky.edu> Sender: news@ms.uky.edu (USENET News System) Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences References: <22303g$c8n@news.u.washington.edu> <93196.093254U54876@uicvm.uic.edu> Distribution: na Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1993 19:38:41 GMT In <93196.093254U54876@uicvm.uic.edu> <U54876@uicvm.uic.edu> writes: >In article <22303g$c8n@news.u.washington.edu>, cph@biostat.washington.edu >(Chisheng Huang) says: >> >>I'd like to be able to turn a NeXT laser printer on and off >>while my NeXT computer is running. Does anybody know what >>commands I should use? Thank you. >The command is /usr/etc/nppower >Use "nppower on" to turn it on, "nppower off" to turn it off. >So, if you've just printed something and now you want to turn off the printer, >you type (in a terminal window) : /usr/etc/nppower off. >Or just include an alias in your .cshrc file like: > alias off /usr/etc/nppower off >and then you only have to type "off". >I'm sure other people have scripts that turn the printer off and on at/after >certain times... >-tom nawara > nirvana@boss.math.uic.edu > ideaLABS Another alternative is to place the command in your crontab.local file so the printer turns off automatically every 30 minutes. It takes a little longer to start up when a print job starts, but your printer will remain off until it is needed. Once a job starts the printer, additional print jobs are not delayed until the nppower signal is sent again in 30 minutes. -- John A. Mastrolia (Politically, Fashionably, and Aerodynamically Incorrect) jamast00@mik.uky.edu University of Kentucky
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: dmanke@sanjuan (Dennis Manke) Subject: Re: Intel GX Machines for NeXTStep 486 Message-ID: <1993Jul15.214118.7950@sol.UVic.CA> Sender: news@sol.UVic.CA Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria B.C. CANADA References: <CA4oG4.Fur@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> <CA5qBx.vJ@ripple.uunet> Date: Thu, 15 Jul 93 21:41:18 GMT In article <CA5qBx.vJ@ripple.uunet> df@watershed.com (Dirk P. Fromhein) writes: > >Not to mention that it has a 64bit CPU => memory bus. >And is the only PC I would not hide in a very dark closet. >It looks somewhat like a NeXT but in white (ie: it looks like a Sun). > >One has to take the machine apart to really appreciate it, it is an incredible >design. Absolutely beautiful. > >It's not for everyone, it's a tiny bit more expensive, but for some people it's >worth it. > >Dirk Fromhein >df@watershed.com >Watershed technologies, inc. > >BTW: His prices weren't all that bad, we carry the same machines at similar >prices. Also Pentium boxes with a PCI bus will be available in late Q4 '93. > I thought the price differential between the identical machines with 16Mb and 32Mb, resp, was too big. It seems to be a standard in the industry to inflate prices of components over and above the normal config. Gateway & I'm sure all the other mail order firms do this also. When I last price checked the system that I would have liked from Gateway, I figured it would have cost the same to order the base system and buy the upgrade components here, but I would also retain the original replaced components. You can find 60ns 4Mbx9 simms in Canada for under $200 Can. which means in the U.S., it should probably run < $600. Dennis dmanke@sanjuan.uvic.ca
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago, academic Computer Center Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1993 17:59:56 CDT From: <U54876@uicvm.uic.edu> Message-ID: <93196.175956U54876@uicvm.uic.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Why are Docs in Pkgs. on CD-ROM? References: <2245v3$pe0@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> <1993Jul15.184806.3925@digifix.com> In article <1993Jul15.184806.3925@digifix.com>, sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) says: > >L. Anathea Brooks writes >> >> Can anyone explain to me why Next puts it Dev. docs >> in those packages on their cd-roms, thus making it >> [munch] > Can anyone explain to me why people are so Gung Ho about >flaming NeXT for no reason at all? If you had bothered to look on >the CD, you would have seen > >[munch] > >- Scott Anguish - >sanguish@digifix.com (NextMail) >next-announce@digifix.com (comp.sys.next.announce submissions) > whoa, scott - take a valium... -tom nawara
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Compaq QVision in 486 portable Message-ID: <1993Jul15.174049.2289@yvax.byu.edu> From: john@kolob.byu.edu (John Peterson) Date: 15 Jul 93 17:40:48 -0700 References: <1993Jul13.222548.14261@its.com> In article <1993Jul13.222548.14261@its.com> writes: > The question this week: I've also got the QVision card installed within > this portable system. I should be able to use it to attach an external > monitor to get 1024 X 768 8 bit greyscale, right? When I try this, > (using the "Configure" program), I just get a bunch of static on the > screen. Itlooks pretty - in a psychadelic sort of way, but isn't very > functional. (There is no inteligable image whatsoever.) > > Has anybody properly installed the Compaq QVision card? I have, without a hitch. Maybe you monitor won't handle 1024 x 768 at the frame rate the driver specifies. -- John Peterson -- Networked Computer Support -- Brigham Young University Internet: John_Peterson@byu.edu Phone: (801) 378-5007
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: cleelacj@agedwards.com (Chris Cleeland) Subject: Re: NeXTtime ? Message-ID: <CA89Cp.9F9@agedwards.com> Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1993 22:34:01 GMT References: <CA3yAH.K6x@apollo.hp.com> <220q5uINNgr9@fstgds15.tu-graz.ac.at> Organization: A. G. Edwards & Sons, Inc. peter@tu-graz.ac.at (Peter Resele) writes: >Daniel E. Ganek (ganek@apollo.hp.com) wrote: >: ... His slides were on photoCD, makes for >: a slick presentation. - I didn't get to ask him if he used a NeXT to >: produce them. How easy is it to produce a PhotoCD presentation on a >: NeXT. i.e. can I dump PS or TIFF images to a floppy and just send them >: off to Kodak? >I think it is not quite as easy as that. As far as I know, Kodak just >can put real (say, old fashioned ;-) ) slides and photo negatives on CD. >However, Kodak now offers two tools for processing the CD-ROM images on >Apple (MESS-WIN?), which allow you to convert the proprietary format into >almost anything (TIFF, PS, ...). I don't know the names of the products, >but I remember having read a rather positive review. I think some other >products are coming out now, too. Included with NS3.1 (both Intel & 68k) under /NextDeveloper/Demos is an app called "PhotoCD.app". This allows the user to view images on a Kodak format PhotoCD. If your CD player supports multiple sessions, then you will have access to any slides placed on the CD AFTER the initial cut of the CD. I think I remember somebody saying that PhotoCD.app was created using a Kit which will be available sometime. Not sure if it was 3.2, 4.0, or ???. Just doing my little bit to dispel and create rumors :-) -cj -- ============================================================================== Chris Cleeland | Internet: cleelacj@agedwards.com BOS Dev. Team | USnail: 3878 Connecticut St. Louis 63116 | BellNet: (314) 289-5372
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Need ppp 0.3 for Intel Message-ID: <1993Jul15.175647.2290@yvax.byu.edu> From: john@kolob.byu.edu (John Peterson) Date: 15 Jul 93 17:56:46 -0700 Has anybody compiled ppp 0.3 for Intel machines? Does it work? Will you send me a copy? (or tell me where to FTP it?) Thanks loads in advance! -- John Peterson -- Networked Computer Support -- Brigham Young University Internet: John_Peterson@byu.edu Phone: (801) 378-5007
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: Gregory_Mutzel@afs.com Subject: Re: NeXT Shirts Message-ID: <1993Jul15.185601.536@afs.com> Sender: mutz@afs.com References: <CA7HMp.5sw@news2.cis.umn.edu> Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1993 18:56:01 GMT Speaking of T-Shirts: Did anyone ever get any info on the Grateful Dead - Steal Your Face - NeXT shirt that Sam Streeper was wearing at the expo? I did not attend (got married instead) but caught it on video tape. Later, Greg -- Gregory L. Mutzel, 215-653-0911 Anderson Financial Systems, Inc. email: Gregory_Mutzel@afs.com [NeXTmail Appreciated]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: wave@pixar.com (Michael B. Johnson) Subject: PhotoCD's & NeXT (was Re: NeXTtime ?) Message-ID: <1993Jul16.003730.22327@pixar.com> Sender: news@pixar.com (Usenet Newsmaster) Organization: Pixar -- Point Richmond, California References: <220q5uINNgr9@fstgds15.tu-graz.ac.at> Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1993 00:37:30 GMT In article <220q5uINNgr9@fstgds15.tu-graz.ac.at> peter@tu-graz.ac.at (Peter Resele) writes: > Daniel E. Ganek (ganek@apollo.hp.com) wrote: > : ... His slides were on photoCD, makes for > : a slick presentation. - I didn't get to ask him if he used a NeXT to > : produce them. How easy is it to produce a PhotoCD presentation on a > : NeXT. i.e. can I dump PS or TIFF images to a floppy and just send them > : off to Kodak? > > I think it is not quite as easy as that. As far as I know, Kodak just > can put real (say, old fashioned ;-) ) slides and photo negatives on CD. > However, Kodak now offers two tools for processing the CD-ROM images on > Apple (MESS-WIN?), which allow you to convert the proprietary format into > almost anything (TIFF, PS, ...). I don't know the names of the products, > but I remember having read a rather positive review. I think some other > products are coming out now, too. I believe the Kodak products are ShoeBox (a little photo database) and Rennaisance (sp?), which is a photo retouching package. The cooler thing is the system extension that shows you 5 directories with the images divided up according to resolution, and thumbnails of each image viewable in the Finder. PhotoAlbum.app on the NeXT (bundled in 3.1) does all the conversion a NeXTer needs. Other than the PhotoShop plugin on the Mac (which lets you read the data in LAB) it's the best PhotoCD converter I've seen, especially since it provides a filter service which lets you import transparently into other apps. > > To do what you want, one would need tools for creating the Photo-CD format > (which was not published for a long time, don't know the current situation) > and writing the Photo-CD format to a CD (probably the newer CD writers > should be able to do this?) Well, sort of. The spec still isn't published, though tests I've done show that Hadmut's converter software does (at least for the images I looked at) exactly the same job as any of the Kodak blessed converters. Kodak has been selling a PhotoCD workstation for a year or so, which is basically a SparcStation, scanner, PhotoCD writer, and some other bits of stuff. You still (to my knowledge) can't get in the middle of the process of scanning the film to writing the PhotoCD. Kodak was supposed to be making it possible to write out your own digital data this summer, but I've been off doing other things, and haven't kept up on this. Keep in mind that this is at the high end of the market, i.e. it's possible you might be able to get access to this sort of stuff at a service bureau, but you won't be doing it at home anytime soon... > > I think that the Photo CD actually contains the image in 4 different resolutions. > The images on a PhotoCD are stored in 5 resolutions: 128x192, 256x384, 512x768, 1024x1536, and 2048x3076. Hope that clears some things up. -- --> Michael B. Johnson -- wave@media.mit.edu, wave@pixar.com --> MIT Media Lab -- Computer Graphics & Animation Group --> P*I*X*A*R -- IceMan Group (for the summer)
From: dahl@esca.esca.com (Austin Dahl) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Why are Docs in Pkgs. on CD-ROM? Message-ID: <DAHL.93Jul15175048@esca.esca.com> Date: 16 Jul 93 01:50:48 GMT References: <2245v3$pe0@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> Sender: dahl@esca.com (Austin Dahl) Organization: ESCA Corporation, Bellevue WA In-Reply-To: gaia@wam.umd.edu's message of 15 Jul 1993 18:00:03 GMT In article <2245v3$pe0@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks) writes: Can anyone explain to me why Next puts it Dev. docs in those packages on their cd-roms, thus making it necessary to use hard disk space? CD-ROMS hold hundreds of MB of data. Can't think of a better use for cd-rom than to hold those docs. Thanks Robert In 3.0 you could take a look in /NEXTSTEP_3.0/NextLibrary/Documentation. I'll bet you'll find what you're looking for even in a 3.1 system. Austin Dahl
From: jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Joseph W Reiss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NS3.1 Login Panel images on orst Date: 16 Jul 1993 03:36:32 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <2257o0$562@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> I just placed a bunch of NeXTSTEP 3.1 format login panels on cs.orst.edu in the submissions directory. They'll soon migrate to someplace more appropriate, of course. But anyway, the file is called "BloomLogins.3.1.tar.Z". Here's the README... ======================================================================= These login images are designed for use with NeXTSTEP 3.1. DO NOT USE THESE IMAGES WITH EARLIER VERSIONS OF NeXTSTEP!!! NeXT changed the login panel with Release 3.1. Hence, all the neat-o custom login images that are out there are going to have to be converted to work with the new OS. These are my contributions. I converted the monochrome Bloom County logins. First, I colorized them for use with my 3.0 color slab. When I upgraded to 3.1, I modified them to work with the new version. I also added a new character to the set -- Bill the Cat! These tiffs contain both 2 bit grayscale and 12 bit color versions, so they should make any system happy. I haven't tested this yet, though, so be warned. Here's what you do to install the login panel of your choice... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) Login as root (su should work) 2) Change to the /usr/lib/NextStep/loginwindow.app directory (from the Workspace, you'll need to select loginwindow.app, then select "Open as Folder" from the "File" menu) 3) Make a backup copy of LoginPanel.tiff (I just make a copy of it in the loginwindow.app directory called LoginPanel.master.tiff) 4) Make a link (or a copy) of the image you want to use as your login to this directory and rename it to LoginPanel.tiff 5) Logout 6) When prompted to login, login as "exit". ----------------------------------------------------------------------- When the login window reappears, you should see the new login panel. ____. .____ ___ . .. |___ |\_ | | / \\___/| |____| \|\_| \___/ | o Joe Reiss ======================================================================= -- __________ | jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu | |___) | """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" \_/OE | \EISS | Real programmers don't document. Documentation is for `---- | simps who can't read the listings or the object code.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Subject: Why so eager to flame NeXT? was Re: why are Docs in Pkgs. on CD-ROM... Message-ID: <1993Jul16.035539.956@digifix.com> Sender: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Organization: Digital Fix Development References: <93196.175956U54876@uicvm.uic.edu> Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1993 03:55:39 GMT <U54876@uicvm.uic.edu> writes > I said ... > > Can anyone explain to me why people are so Gung Ho about > >flaming NeXT for no reason at all? If you had bothered to look on > >the CD, you would have seen > > > >[munch] > > > >- Scott Anguish - > >sanguish@digifix.com (NextMail) > >next-announce@digifix.com (comp.sys.next.announce submissions) > > > > whoa, scott - take a valium... > Tom.. Yeah, that was somewhat harsh... but it is a FACT that there are way too many people who are flaming NeXT for things that are not NeXT's fault (or don't even exist), and this was one of them. It only took me two seconds to stick in the CD and VERIFY that the files were there (it even says so in the docs). This was an obvious case of someone not looking at the CD period. There are some valid concerns about NEXTSTEP at this point, the biggest being the serial driver problem on NS/Intel... but the processes non-problem (which has been addressed by Next as a NextAnswer) and flames about Frame 2.0 (several revisions old, the current is 3.0.1) not working on NEXTSTEP 3.1 are just for the sake of flaming. BTW, my "anxiety relief" drug of choice is Ativan! :-) -- - Scott Anguish - sanguish@digifix.com (NextMail) next-announce@digifix.com (comp.sys.next.announce submissions)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: anderson (Ken Anderson) Subject: Re: NeXT Shirts Message-ID: <1993Jul15.185324.19949@biztech.com> Sender: news@biztech.com Organization: Biztech, Inc. References: <221g55$rgt@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu> Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1993 18:53:24 GMT In article <221g55$rgt@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu> catapmsd@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Matt Stephen DeBergalis) writes: >Does anybody know where I can get one of the funky NeXT white shirts? > >Later -- Matt DeBergalis Matt, Call 1-800-972-1331. The T-shirt you're referring to is item # NX112, and the price is $ 6.95. Ken Anderson anderson@biztech.com Stamford, CT
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: vhs@qb.rhein-main.de (Volker Herminghaus-Shirai) Subject: Re: Intel GX Machines for NeXTStep 486 Date: Thu, 15 Jul 93 19:44:50 GMT Message-ID: <1993Jul15.194450.2412@qb.rhein-main.de> References: <CA4oG4.Fur@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> Sender: vhs@qb.rhein-main.de (Volker Herminghaus-Shirai) In article <CA4oG4.Fur@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> davis@sonata.cc.purdue.edu (Robert Davis) writes: > In article <1993Jul13.195715.29063@glv.uucp> andersen@reality.glv.com (Robert Andersen) writes: > > > > Actually these prices are not very low. I spent $5555 for a > > Gateway 2000 66V and this is what I got: > > > [...] > > > >For $135 less I have 800 more megabyte hard drive, modem, and some software. > > > > Yeah, but the GX is EISA, not ISA, it's SCSI controller is > SCSI-2, and it includes sound on-the-board. ...and for <$5000 you get a >60 SPECint92 MIPS R4000 SGI Indy with digital video camera, a 267MB/sec I/O bus instead of a 33MB/sec one, SCSI-2, ethernet and ISDN on board, and the fastest f***ing framebuffer technology in the industry :-)* God, how I wish they would port NeXTSTEP to SGI. *But you have to buy the hard disk yourself -- Volker Herminghaus-Shirai (vhs@qb.rhein-main.de) Computer industry: Industry in which the number of units sold of any given product is inversely proportional to its technical excellence. See also: MS-DOS, MS-Windows, PC, X, QWERTY, 80x86, TrueType
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: nico@imani.cam.org (Nicolas Dore) Subject: Re: Why are Docs in Pkgs. on CD-ROM? Message-ID: <1993Jul16.035556.961@imani.cam.org> Sender: nico@imani.cam.org References: <93196.175956U54876@uicvm.uic.edu> Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1993 03:55:56 GMT In article <93196.175956U54876@uicvm.uic.edu> <U54876@uicvm.uic.edu> writes: > In article <1993Jul15.184806.3925@digifix.com>, sanguish@digifix.com (Scott > Anguish) says: > > > >L. Anathea Brooks writes > >> > >> Can anyone explain to me why Next puts it Dev. docs > >> in those packages on their cd-roms, thus making it > >> [munch] > > > Can anyone explain to me why people are so Gung Ho about > >flaming NeXT for no reason at all? If you had bothered to look on > >the CD, you would have seen > > > >[munch] > > > >- Scott Anguish - > >sanguish@digifix.com (NextMail) > >next-announce@digifix.com (comp.sys.next.announce submissions) > > > > whoa, scott - take a valium... Well, he does have a point (wether he needs a valium, I leave to his physician). People jump on NeXT like wolves on the last steak on Earth (sorry for the metaphor, english is not my first language 8^>). Just answered someone who felt NeXT had taken away 10% of his HD away from him. NeXT is neither perfect nor totally faillible. They might, sometimes, _know_ what they're doing! (_NOT_ talking marketing, here! 8^>>>). And picking on "small" stuff is not very productive, with big stuff needing fixes. 8^) Ciao > -tom nawara > -- Nicolas Dore nico@imani.cam.org - - - - - - - - - CAREFUL! POLITICAL COMMENT ZONE!! - - - - - - - - - > "If I can't dance, I don't want to be in your revolution!" < > Emma Goldman (to Vladimir Ilitch Oulianov [Lenin], 1917) <
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: nico@imani.cam.org (Nicolas Dore) Subject: Re: Why are Docs in Pkgs. on CD-ROM? Message-ID: <1993Jul16.035737.1019@imani.cam.org> Sender: nico@imani.cam.org References: <93196.175956U54876@uicvm.uic.edu> Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1993 03:57:37 GMT In article <93196.175956U54876@uicvm.uic.edu> <U54876@uicvm.uic.edu> writes: > In article <1993Jul15.184806.3925@digifix.com>, sanguish@digifix.com (Scott > Anguish) says: > > > >L. Anathea Brooks writes > >> > >> Can anyone explain to me why Next puts it Dev. docs > >> in those packages on their cd-roms, thus making it Besides, to follow my own post, it might just be to let portables squeeze as much as possible on the HD by not installing the Docs. Just an additionnal thought. Ciao again. -- Nicolas Dore nico@imani.cam.org - - - - - - - - - CAREFUL! POLITICAL COMMENT ZONE!! - - - - - - - - - > "If I can't dance, I don't want to be in your revolution!" < > Emma Goldman (to Vladimir Ilitch Oulianov [Lenin], 1917) <
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc From: marketing@nextsrv1.andi.org (Marketing Director) Subject: Co-op Advertising with ANDI and ANDI Email InfoServer Message-ID: <CA82Ex.2pI@nextsrv1.andi.org> Keywords: ANDI,App Wrapper,InfoServer,Advertising Sender: usenet@nextsrv1.andi.org (usenet) Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1993 20:04:07 GMT ANDI is pleased to announce our expanded efforts to help market NeXTSTEP products and services. ANDI has already announced expanded tradeshow coverage which began with PC Expo in New York City earlier this month. We are now begining to offer co-op advertising opportunities. In addition, the ANDI Email InfoServer is a great way to send out the latest demo of your software or company information. This should be of particular interest if you are in a European country and have to pay kilocharacter charges to send email. Since our InfoServer runs automatically 24 hours a day, 365 days a year, access to your latest demo, product or service is instantaneous. To try out our InfoServer: Send mail to info@andi.org In the subject field place the word:help To find out more about the Co-op advertising and InfoServer programs do the following: Send mail to info@andi.org In the subject field place the words: index ANDI P.S. Our InfoServer is going through Beta testing over the next several weeks and any comments are welcome. -- Bill Strehl Executive Director ANDI reply to:marketing@nextsrv1.andi.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc From: mihe@gordon.enea.se (Mike Henry) Subject: Re: ioctl failures Message-ID: <1993Jul16.090401.27853@enea.se> Keywords: ioctl,pipe,texview Sender: usenet@enea.se Organization: ENEA DATA AB, Stockholm, Sweden References: <1993Jul14.182251.28924@news.arc.nasa.gov> Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1993 09:04:01 GMT In article <1993Jul14.182251.28924@news.arc.nasa.gov> woo@ames.arc.nasa.gov writes: >Problem: unable to open connections with either gnuplot, texview, >pft, etc. Here is a sample error message: > >ioctl: Operation not supported on socket >open: can't open connection to Workspace on local host. > >Does anyone have any suggestions for this problem? Is this >caused by file protections? This probably comes from a) the person that installed gcc on your system did not run fixincludes, or b) the fixed includes are not included as they should. (I ran into this when compiling xpilot B^) -Mike -- Mike Henry INET : mihe@enea.se /// Box 232 /// S-183 23 Taby TEL : +46 8 792-2500 \\\/// SWEDEN TFX : +46 8 768-4388 \XX/
From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: making gzip Date: 16 Jul 1993 06:58:37 -0500 Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <22655r$o08@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <1993Jul14.175919.265@sunova.ssc.gov> <1993Jul15.140613.24751@sunova.ssc.gov> faught@berserk.ssc.gov (Ed Faught) writes: >In article <1993Jul14.175919.265@sunova.ssc.gov> faught@berserk.ssc.gov (Ed >Faught) writes: >gcc -c -DASMV -DNO_UTIME_H=1 -DVOID_CLOSEDIR=1 -DRETSIGTYPE=int -O gzip.c >gzip.c:51: ctype.h: No such file or directory I don't know where you got your 'gcc', but it isn't looking in the right places for the include files. One easy fix is to go into the Makefile that configure created and change the 'gcc' to 'cc'. That will work just fine. Another option is to go into the CFLAGS= ine in the Makefile and add -I/usr/include/bsd -I/usr/include/ansi to the things already there. The problem is that in NS3.0, NeXT moved include files that are generally in /usr/include to /usr/include/ansi and /usr/include/bsd. If you use the gcc that NeXT provides (called /bin/cc), it will automatically look in the right place. If you make your own gcc and make sure that it looks in the right place, you don't need to add these -I paths in the future. -- David Lemson (217) 244-1205 University of Illinois Computing & Comm Services Office System Administrator Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu UUCP :...!uiucuxc!uiucux1!lemson NeXTMail & MIME accepted BITNET : LEMSON@UIUCVMD
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: fletcher@socrates.umd.edu (Charles Fletcher) Subject: Where are the sunglasses? (Re: NeXT Shirts) Message-ID: <1993Jul16.124938.26531@socrates.umd.edu> Organization: University of Maryland University College References: <222cp2$rc@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu> <CA7HMp.5sw@news2.cis.umn.edu> <1993Jul15.152012.6302@mdd.comm.mot.com> Distribution: na Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1993 12:49:38 GMT >NeXT Pencils $20.30 box of 100 >NeXT Cross Pen $21.15 each >NeXT Decals $75.00 box of 100 >NeXT T-shirt $5.65 each - sizes S, M, L, XL (pre-shrunk) >NeXT Turtle Neck $19.20 each - sizes S, M, L, XL >NeXT Glass Mug $1.70 each >NeXT Leather Folder $54.50 each >NeXT Sweatshirt $19.20 each - sizes S, M, L, XL >NeXT Tote-bag $ 6.25 each >NeXT Mouse pad $ 9.67 each > What ever happened to those nifty cross-polarized sunglasses (for 3D viewing) that were announced in the April 1, 1989 Buzzings? They weren't in the glossy mailer that came with my evaluation package either. What happen to the good ole days!-) Charlie > >Martin > -- NeXTMail to: | ...to confer, converse, and charlie@technosci.com | otherwise hobnob with my | brother wizards.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: faught@berserk.ssc.gov (Ed Faught) Subject: Re: making gzip SOLUTION and SUMMARY Message-ID: <1993Jul16.135935.8718@sunova.ssc.gov> Sender: usenet@sunova.ssc.gov (News Admin) Organization: Superconducting Super Collider Laboratory References: <22655r$o08@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1993 13:59:35 GMT In article <22655r$o08@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson) writes: >I don't know where you got your 'gcc', but it isn't looking in the >right places for the include files. One easy fix is to go into the >Makefile that configure created and change the 'gcc' to 'cc'. That >will work just fine. >-- >David Lemson (217) 244-1205 >University of Illinois Computing & Comm Services Office System Administrator >Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu UUCP :...!uiucuxc!uiucux1!lemson >NeXTMail & MIME accepted BITNET : LEMSON@UIUCVMD This was the correct fix. I don't have any idea what version of gcc is in /usr/local/bin here, but it's the wrong one. Thanks David! I'd also like to thank all the respondents for helping me out. The correct problem was that the missing include files had been moved into some subdirectories by the friendly folks at NeXT, and that our local gcc wasn't looking there for them. There were lots of helpful hints along the lines of using find to locate the include files and then supplying make with the extra subdirectories, but the compiler supplied in release 3.0 does this by itself. -- Ed_Faught@ssc.gov WA9WDM wouldn't dare to speak for the Superconducting Super Collider Laboratory
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: Jeff Adams Subject: Re: PhotoCD's & NeXT Message-ID: <1993Jul16.144542.15494@wri.com> Sender: news@wri.com Organization: Wolfram Research, Inc. References: <1993Jul16.003730.22327@pixar.com> Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1993 14:45:42 GMT In article <1993Jul16.003730.22327@pixar.com> wave@pixar.com (Michael B. Johnson) writes: > PhotoAlbum.app on the NeXT (bundled in 3.1) does all the conversion a > NeXTer needs. Other than the PhotoShop plugin on the Mac (which lets you > read the data in LAB) it's the best PhotoCD converter I've seen, > especially since it provides a filter service which lets you import > transparently into other apps. I personally think PhotoAlbum.app left out one major feature which I was really hoping they would add. Namely, the ability to crop a photo at a smaller size and then only load in the cropped image when you switch to one of the larger photo sizes. You really need this if you want to look at parts of the largest image size without having 30-40 Megs necessary to load the entire image. I noticed in the Info Panel for PhotoAlbum, it makes reference to version 1.0 of a "PhotoCDKit". Does this mean we may soon be able to buy a PhotoCD Developer's Kit from Kodak made specifically for the NeXT? ---------------------------------------------------------------- Jeff Adams jeffa@wri.com (NeXTMail accepted) Wolfram Research Inc. Of course these are my own opinions! ----------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: ganek@apollo.hp.com (Daniel E. Ganek) Subject: Re: NeXTtime ? Sender: usenet@apollo.hp.com (Usenet News) Message-ID: <CA9J3z.I9E@apollo.hp.com> Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1993 15:02:23 GMT References: <CA3yAH.K6x@apollo.hp.com> <220q5uINNgr9@fstgds15.tu-graz.ac.at> <CA89Cp.9F9@agedwards.com> Organization: Hewlett-Packard Corporation, Chelmsford, MA In article <CA89Cp.9F9@agedwards.com> cleelacj@agedwards.com (Chris Cleeland) writes: >peter@tu-graz.ac.at (Peter Resele) writes: > >>Daniel E. Ganek (ganek@apollo.hp.com) wrote: >>: ... His slides were on photoCD, makes for >>: a slick presentation. - I didn't get to ask him if he used a NeXT to >>: produce them. How easy is it to produce a PhotoCD presentation on a >>: NeXT. i.e. can I dump PS or TIFF images to a floppy and just send them >>: off to Kodak? > >>I think it is not quite as easy as that. As far as I know, Kodak just >>can put real (say, old fashioned ;-) ) slides and photo negatives on CD. >>However, Kodak now offers two tools for processing the CD-ROM images on >>Apple (MESS-WIN?), which allow you to convert the proprietary format into >>almost anything (TIFF, PS, ...). I don't know the names of the products, >>but I remember having read a rather positive review. I think some other >>products are coming out now, too. > >Included with NS3.1 (both Intel & 68k) under /NextDeveloper/Demos is >an app called "PhotoCD.app". This allows the user to view images on >a Kodak format PhotoCD. If your CD player supports multiple sessions, >then you will have access to any slides placed on the CD AFTER the >initial cut of the CD. > >I think I remember somebody saying that PhotoCD.app was created using >a Kit which will be available sometime. Not sure if it was 3.2, 4.0, >or ???. > >Just doing my little bit to dispel and create rumors :-) > >-cj >-- >============================================================================== >Chris Cleeland | Internet: cleelacj@agedwards.com >BOS Dev. Team | USnail: 3878 Connecticut St. Louis 63116 > | BellNet: (314) 289-5372 I thought I made myself clear but from some of the mail I've received and other comments I guess I didn't. First, I'm in HP multi-media Lab and, altho I don't work with them here, I know a little bit about them :-) I don't want to copy images from the photoCD to a computer, but the opposite. I want to create a presentation on a NeXT or PA-RISC or what have you, copy the resultant images to an electronic medium (not screen shots!), send them off and have a photCD come back that I can then use for a NON-COMPUTER based presentation. I.e. I want to use a consumer grade PhotoCD player and a tv set/monitor. What I did learn was that Steve's presentation was generated using Lighthouse sw (big $$) and that it was actually running on a NeXT because we didn't have a CPlayer available. What confused me was that fact that he appeared to be using a CDplayer remote to control the player.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: lorinr@altsys.com (Lorin Rivers III) Subject: Re: MacDraw 2 eps,tiff,whatever? Message-ID: <1993Jul16.144223.18398@altsys.com> Organization: Altsys Corporation, Richardson, TX References: <CA7t8p.7pD@dove.nist.gov> Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1993 14:42:23 GMT In article <CA7t8p.7pD@dove.nist.gov> eboltz@nist.gov writes: > >I have some MacDraw files (DRWGD2 in the header) that I need to convert into >something for editing on either a NeXT or PC. > >Anything out there (note these are not PICT files)?? > >thanks in advance, >Eric > >-- >Eric S. Boltz, M.S.E. *eboltz@nist.gov* >Materials Research Engineer eboltz@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu >National Institute of Standards and Technology NeXTMail Accepted > (Ph.D. Candidate, Johns Hopkins University) > My views, opinions and statements in no way reflect those of the U.S. Gov't, > the U.S. Department of Commerce or NIST. Aldus FreeHand for Macintosh will read object-oriented PICT files (what you have). Save those files as filenam.fh3 and get them to a NeXT. Use Virtuoso to open them and edit away. -- Lorin Rivers Lorin_Rivers@altsys.com Altsys Technical Support 214.680.2518 269 W. Renner Parkway NeXT Mail Expected Richardson, Texas 75080 I said it, not my boss
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: irving@Happy-Man.com (Irving_Wolfe) Subject: Re: * * * RightBrain Sale: 50% off through July (RTF) * * * Message-ID: <1993Jul16.153055.404@Happy-Man.com> Organization: Happy Man Corp, 4410 Pt Robinson, Vashon, WA 98070 206/463-9399 References: <1262@rtbrain.rightbrain.com> Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1993 15:30:55 GMT I've had PasteUp for a while now. In my opinion, anyone who has a use for this sort of application and doesn't take advantage of the 50% discount is making a real mistake. It's one of the nicest, most polished products I've seen for the NeXT. -- Irving_Wolfe@Happy-Man.com 206/463-9399 x101 fax 206/463-9255 Happy Man Corp. 4410 SW Pt. Robinson Rd., Vashon, WA 98070-7399 We publish SOLID VALUE for the intelligent investor. NextMail OK Info. packet free. Send POSTAL address: Solid-Value@Happy-Man.com
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: CDPlayer.app Date: 16 Jul 1993 17:44:53 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <226pel$1mo@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <88421@ut-emx.uucp> mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Alex) writes: > Apparently CDPlayer.app expects to see a CD-ROM drive at sd1 > unless you have "Public Window Server" enabled in the Unix > Preferences dialogue. Being a public window server compromises > your security on a network but it does let CDPlayer.app find > CD-ROM drives at positions other than sd1. > > It isn't in the FAQ yet but it is a FAQ. Thanks to jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Joseph W Reiss), we have a safer and simplier way to handle CD-ROM drives which are setup to be a device other than sd1. He did a "strings" on the application, and deduced that there's a CDDrive option. So if your CD-ROM drive is device sd2 (as mine is), you just need to type the following command in a Unix window: dwrite CDPlayer CDDrive /dev/rsd2h (note that the case is significant in the above). If you have it as some other device, just replace the "2" with the correct number. After you've done this, you should be able to just double-click on the CDPlayer application and it will ask that you insert a disk in the *correct* external disk drive. Put in a music disc, and you should be all set. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: matomira@di.epfl.ch (Fernando Mato Mira) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Intel GX Machines for NeXTStep 486 Date: 16 Jul 1993 17:40:08 GMT Organization: Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne Distribution: world Message-ID: <226p5o$orf@disuns2.epfl.ch> References: <CA4oG4.Fur@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> <1993Jul15.194450.2412@qb.rhein-main.de> In article <1993Jul15.194450.2412@qb.rhein-main.de>, vhs@qb.rhein-main.de (Volker Herminghaus-Shirai) writes: > > ...and for <$5000 you get a >60 SPECint92 MIPS R4000 SGI Indy with digital ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Epa! For $4999, what you get is a 34 SPECint92 MIPS R4000PC. (The difference between this one and the 59 SPECint92 R4000SC is that the former is lacking a 1Mb secondary cache). > God, how I wish they would port NeXTSTEP to SGI You'll have to wait for at least 1 and a half years, I think. -- Fernando D. Mato Mira Computer Graphics Lab "There is only one Language Swiss Federal Institute of Technology and McCarthy is its prophet" matomira@di.epfl.ch FAX : +41 (21) 693 - 5328 Disclaimer: disclaim([],[]). disclaim([H|T],[DH,DT]) :- fixed_point_disclaimer(H,DH), disclaim(T,DT). fixed_point_disclaimer(Text,fixed_point_disclaimer(Text,_)).
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: jimr@world.std.com (James A Robinson) Subject: Serial-Port login hangs Message-ID: <CA9uFD.GoF@world.std.com> Summary: NeXT Cube serial port hangs on dial-up. Keywords: Serial port, NeXT Cube, hangs Organization: The World @ Software Tool & Die Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1993 19:06:47 GMT Hi, I was curious to see if anyone has had an odd problem with their NeXT Cube hanging up the serial line on them? We have a NeXT cube that has uugetty installed on a Telebit 9600bps modem, and whenever someone calls it up it works for about 5 or ten minutes, and then hangs up on the user. The modem resets just fine, and you can call back in seconds, but I was wondering about possible reasons. It is going to be vital to get the dial-up access working properly as our school when classes start. :-( If you need hardware lists I will post them. e-mail or posts would be much appreciated, flames I would rather see in /dev/null. :-) Jim jimr@world.std.com
From: mikes@velo.ucr.edu (Mike Shebanek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: User.addresses Message-ID: <34203@galaxy.ucr.edu> Date: 16 Jul 93 19:36:51 GMT References: <boardman.742591568@news.acns.nwu.edu> Sender: news@galaxy.ucr.edu In article <boardman.742591568@news.acns.nwu.edu> boardman@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Michael Boardman) writes: > > I am running NS3.0 and need a little information on > /NextLibrary/Addresses/User.addresses. How does one input > work/home/fax numbers and address information. > Do I need to mess with netinfo? > > BTW, my NeXT came with NS2.1 and a free upgrade to 3.0. Unfortunately, I > didn't get the 3.0 documentation...only the online sysadmin stuff...I could > not find anything to help in there. > > Michael Boardman > boardman@davinci.lfc.edu double-click the Users.addresses icon in the file viewer to make an inspector panel appear. Two new commands appear in the file menu when this inspector is the "key" (foreground) window. New User and New Group. When you choose new user, a new icon appears. Double-clicking it opens it's inspector so you can enter information about that person. Likewise you can create groups of users by creating a new group, dragging its icon to the users.addresses shelf, then dragging and dropping users onto the group icon. Don't forget you can also "inspect" the users.addresses icon too. A neat button exists for exporting your address list into an RTF file so you can use it in other apps. --- Mike Shebanek Computing and Communications University of California, Riverside Riverside, CA 92521 mikes@velo.ucr.edu (NeXTMail Accepted)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: carlier@venus.ycc.yale.edu Subject: looking for MO w/ NSI Message-ID: <1993Jul16.154653.1@venus.ycc.yale.edu> Sender: news@news.yale.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Yale Computer Center (YCC) Date: 16 Jul 93 15:46:53 EDT Hi, I am looking for a magneto-optical drive that will work with NEXTSTEP Intel. I would like a 3.5" drive either 128 MB or 256 MB (I have not decided yet), but a pretty fast one. I would really appreciate recommendations. There are quite a lot of MO around now and I want to be sure I get one that will work w/ NSI. I called NeXT but they told me that they haven't tried any. I would thing that they don't require a special driver and just work like SCSI HD. If you have one please tell me about its speed, access time, what you think of it, etc. Are the access times given in ads -like the 19 ms of the Pinnacle drives- measured the same way they are on hard drives, or do they use a different procedure, like 1/3 stroke? My e-mail address is: carlier@pressure.eng.yale.edu (No NeXTMail on that one) Thanks Claude Department of Chemical Engineering Yale University
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: jon@afs.com Subject: Re: PhotoCD's & NeXT Message-ID: <1993Jul16.173223.704@afs.com> Sender: jon@afs.com References: <1993Jul16.144542.15494@wri.com> Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1993 17:32:23 GMT In article <1993Jul16.144542.15494@wri.com> Jeff Adams writes: |Does this mean we may soon be able to buy a PhotoCD Developer's Kit from Kodak |made specifically for the NeXT? Actually, I'd imagine it is going to be a kit like the 3DKit, DBkit, etc, included with NeXTSTEP (or sold as a system add-on). -- Jon Hendry It's a thousand classes, give or take a few, <jon@afs.com> I'll be writing more in a week or two. I can make it deeper if you like the style, I can change it round and I want to be an ObjectWare Writer
From: sowa@amdew.llnl.gov (Erik C. Sowa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NS3.1 Login Panel images on orst Date: 16 Jul 1993 21:39:04 GMT Organization: LLNL Chemistry and Materials Science Message-ID: <SOWA.93Jul16143905@amdew.llnl.gov> References: <2257o0$562@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> In-reply-to: jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu's message of 16 Jul 1993 03:36:32 GMT >>>>> "Joe" == Joseph W Reiss <jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> writes: Joe> Here's what you do to install the login panel of your choice... Joe> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Joe> 1) Login as root (su should work) Joe> 2) Change to the /usr/lib/NextStep/loginwindow.app directory Joe> (from the Workspace, you'll need to select loginwindow.app, then Joe> select "Open as Folder" from the "File" menu) Joe> 3) Make a backup copy of LoginPanel.tiff Joe> (I just make a copy of it in the loginwindow.app directory called Joe> LoginPanel.master.tiff) Joe> 4) Make a link (or a copy) of the image you want to use as your Joe> login to this directory and rename it to LoginPanel.tiff Joe> 5) Logout Joe> 6) When prompted to login, login as "exit". Joe> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Joe> When the login window reappears, you should see the new login panel. Don't do all that! Instead, place the tiff in some likely location, login as root, and do: dwrite loginwindow ImageFile /LocalLibrary/Images/mylogin.tiff It's more robust---even survives NS upgrades. -- erik sowa (sowa@amdew.llnl.gov)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: df@watershed.com (Dirk P. Fromhein) Subject: Re: Intel GX Machines for NeXTStep 486 Message-ID: <CA9HHI.152@ripple.uunet> Sender: jaeger@ripple.uunet (Dirk P. Fromhein) Organization: Watershed Technologies, Inc. References: <1993Jul15.214118.7950@sol.UVic.CA> Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1993 14:27:17 GMT One thing, the Intel GX requires 72 pin x 70ns TIN leeds. You can use gold. Since the SIMM sockets are tin, if you use gold and get condenstation on the contacts... you get a battery! BTW: SIMM prices just went up again,... I'm getting a tad tired of these price increases. Dirk Fromhein df@watershed.com Watershed technologies, inc. In article <1993Jul15.214118.7950@sol.UVic.CA> dmanke@sanjuan (Dennis Manke) writes: [munch]> > I thought the price differential between the identical machines with 16Mb > and 32Mb, resp, was too big. It seems to be a standard in the industry to > inflate prices of components over and above the normal config. Gateway & > I'm sure all the other mail order firms do this also. When I last price > checked the system that I would have liked from Gateway, I figured it > would have cost the same to order the base system and buy the upgrade > components here, but I would also retain the original replaced components. > > You can find 60ns 4Mbx9 simms in Canada for under $200 Can. which means > in the U.S., it should probably run < $600. > > Dennis dmanke@sanjuan.uvic.ca >
From: laurent@planon.qc.ca (Laurent Daudelin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Shipping Costs Message-ID: <1993Jul13.140051.2308@CAM.ORG!planon> Date: 13 Jul 93 14:00:51 GMT References: <CA376G.AMJ@news.iastate.edu> Sender: laurent@CAM.ORG!planon In article <CA376G.AMJ@news.iastate.edu> tlm@tantalus.scl.ameslab.gov (Dr. T. L. Marchioro II) writes: | | year the problems going *into* Canada are almost infinitely worse. In | addition to the tariffs and various border policies, there are also the | various forms of Canadian sales taxes which are so onerous (15% in Ontario, | I think ~19% now in PEI and New Brunswick) they try to apply it to | everything possible. | Just to make things clear, let me say that the federal government modify it's sale tax some years ago. Now, on almost everything, a 7% sale tax is applied. However, this tax is applied only to the new value of an item in the distribution chain. For example, if a manufacturer sells to a distributor a product $100, the distributor will pay $7 for G.S.T. (Goods and Services Tax). Then, suppose the distributor resell the product, says, $200, to a customer, the customer will pay $14 of G.S.T. When the distributor pays his G.S.T. to the government, he can substract the G.S.T. he paid to the manufacturer from the amount he must send to the government. So, in each step, the tax is applied only to the product added value. The government said it would be much more fair to everybody. Then, if, for example, you live in Quebec, suppose you buy the product $200, the total cost, so far including the GST is $214. To this amount, you must add an 8% of provincial sale tax, or $17.12, which bring the product cost to $231.12. While the GST is 7% on goods and services, the PST (Provincial Sale Tax) is 8% on goods and 4% on services, which make things more difficult! Each province has his own tax rate. However, I know that if you, from the US, buy something in Quebec, the PST is not perceived. If you come to Quebec and pay, on some products, the PST, you can ask for a full refund for the tax paid. I must agree that here, in Canada, and more specifically in Quebec, the taxes are very high, and it costs a lot to live here. However, we have some social advantages, like a health insurance, a higher minimum salary basis and so on... It's really difficult to make true comparisons. Hope this is clearer! Laurent -- ****************************************************************************** Laurent Daudelin, Software Engineer Planon TELEXPERTISE Inc., Boucherville, Quebec, CANADA laurent@planon.qc.ca <-- NeXTMail welcome!
From: laurent@planon.qc.ca (Laurent Daudelin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Shipping Costs Message-ID: <1993Jul13.141232.2366@CAM.ORG!planon> Date: 13 Jul 93 14:12:32 GMT References: <CA376G.AMJ@news.iastate.edu> Sender: laurent@CAM.ORG!planon In article <CA376G.AMJ@news.iastate.edu> tlm@tantalus.scl.ameslab.gov (Dr. T. L. Marchioro II) writes: | Rob Tibshirani writes | []In article <CA0rHn.Cry@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu> tim@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu | (Tim Pugh) writes: | [] | []This is not the fault of canadian companies. Rather it is the fault of | the US | []border police who are using every trick in the book to prevent imports | from | []selling there. Perhaps your government should look at its own hidden | []protectionist ways before chiding Japan. | [] | I must agree that the US border police try to make things difficult to canadians. It's remind me a story as an example to this: some weeks ago, the Montreal hockey team had to fly to New York to play a playoff hockey game against the New York Islanders. They had to wait more than an hour to the US border gate at the airport. The reason? Their flight was not registered 30 days ago!!! The team general manager has to argument with the border police, telling them that, 30 days ago, they didn't know they would do the playoffs!!! Finally, they were allowed to go. I've heard many stories of that kind, showing a clear decision of discouraging canadians to go or make any other activities in the US. I don't know why, however... I could also give you numerous examples of the US protectionism in trade matters. Even there is a free trade treaty in effect for some years now, the lobby from big US companies is very powerful. As a result, specials surcharge taxes are applied to canadian products, which is contrary to the free trade treaty. I know that things are not so beautiful in the US, and that the US have some real problems, but, I don't understand why they see threats from us... Laurent. -- ****************************************************************************** Laurent Daudelin, Software Engineer Planon TELEXPERTISE Inc., Boucherville, Quebec, CANADA laurent@planon.qc.ca <-- NeXTMail welcome!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: root@iienext1.eas.asu.edu (Operator) Subject: Intel GX and Pentium Ready Systems For Sale Message-ID: <1993Jul16.223144.17582@ennews.eas.asu.edu> Keywords: Pentiums Sender: news@ennews.eas.asu.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Arizona State University Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1993 22:31:44 GMT 1) GX Prof Hires 16 MB RAM, 340 MB Hard Drive Floppy, 2MB VRAM, SCSI Built-in 17" Mag Monitor Keyboard and Mouse Price = $4,685.00 2) GX Prof Hires 16 MB RAM, 540 MB Hard Drive Floppy, 2MB VRAM, SCSI Built-in 17" Mag Monitor Keyboard and Mouse Price = $5,520.00 3) GX Prof Hires 32MB RAM, 340 MB Hard Drive Floppy, 2MB VRAM, SCSI Built-in 17" Mag Monitor Keyboard and Mouse Price = $5,755.00 4)Pentium Systems Model LX and MX 64-bit Architecture Now shipping with DX50 (Upgradable to Pentium) 16MB RAM to 32MB RAM 17" Mag Monitor Keyboard Mouse Price = $7,500.00 to $12,500.00 Pentium Modules will not be availble till Q4. However, send a PO now so you will be on top of the list. We will however ship systems with DX50 or DX266 modules Buy now while prices are low..... Call Bob Padua at (602) 961-3401 Ext 4459 Pentrix/Tri-Star Computer 120 S Weber Chandler Arizona
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: root@iienext1.eas.asu.edu (Operator) Subject: Re: Intel GX Machines for NeXTStep 486 Message-ID: <1993Jul16.223546.18008@ennews.eas.asu.edu> Sender: news@ennews.eas.asu.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Arizona State University References: <1993Jul13.195715.29063@glv.uucp> Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1993 22:35:46 GMT In article <1993Jul13.195715.29063@glv.uucp> andersen@reality.glv.com (Robert Andersen) writes: > Bobby Padua writes > > We are selling brand new Intel GX Professional Machines at the Following > > prices and configurations: > > > > 1) GX Prof Hires > > 16 MB RAM, 340 MB Hard Drive > > Floppy, 2MB VRAM, SCSI Built-in > > 17" Mag Monitor > > Keyboard and Mouse > > Price = $4,685.00 > > > > 2) GX Prof Hires > > 16 MB RAM, 540 MB Hard Drive > > Floppy, 2MB VRAM, SCSI Built-in > > 17" Mag Monitor > > Keyboard and Mouse > > Price = $5,485.00 > > 3) GX Prof Hires > > 32MB RAM, 340 MB Hard Drive > > Floppy, 2MB VRAM, SCSI Built-in > > 17" Mag Monitor > > Keyboard and Mouse > > Price = $5,685.00 > > > > Buy now while prices are low..... > > Actually these prices are not very low. I spent $5555 for a Gateway 2000 66V > and this is what I got: > > 32M RAM, 1.2G HD > 3.5 Floppy, 2MB VRAM, ATI Ultra Pro Local Bus > Adaptec SCSI card > 17" NEC 5FG > Keyboard/Mouse > 14.4 Data/9600 Fax modem (Compuserve,fax package, and 2 other modem packages) > Windows/Paradox/Quatro thrown in (probably won't use) > > For $135 less I have 800 more megabyte hard drive, modem, and some software. > > -- > Robert John Andersen > andersen@reality.glv.com > 919-460-3285 Voice > 919-460-3295 Fax -Please take note on what you are getting. The GX boxes have built-in audio they are also designed with a 64-bit architecture in which gateway supports a 32-bit architecture. -Wait till you compare there performance once the pentium is out. You machine may have some erroneous errors on compatability.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: dwboyce@acsu.buffalo.edu (Doug Boyce) Subject: Re: HELP with DPT controller and NS/FIP Message-ID: <CAA7MI.4x0@acsu.buffalo.edu> Sender: nntp@acsu.buffalo.edu Organization: University at Buffalo References: <wagner.1448.742603226@main.mndly.umn.edu> <221d9g$99q@news.mic.ucla.edu> Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1993 23:51:53 GMT In article <221d9g$99q@news.mic.ucla.edu> iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) writes: > >I am not sure about the ALR, but it looks like it is a DPT problem. >The solution might be to use your EISA utility to set the DPT's IRQ >level to 15-edge instead of 14-edge, and to make sure that you set a >transfer rate of only 5MB/s rather than 10MB/s (even if your harddisks >can do 10MB/s). Also make sure that it states that the Hardware Mapping for I/O ports reads "Secondary/Disabled." -- Doug Boyce dwboyce@acsu.buffalo.edu
From: karuzis@wccf.mit.edu (GLENN HOLM) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NS3.1 Login Panel images on orst Date: 16 Jul 1993 20:06 EST Organization: MIT - Whitaker College Distribution: world Message-ID: <16JUL199320064173@wccf.mit.edu> References: <2257o0$562@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <SOWA.93Jul16143905@amdew.llnl.gov> News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41 In article <SOWA.93Jul16143905@amdew.llnl.gov>, sowa@amdew.llnl.gov (Erik C. Sowa) writes... >>>>>> "Joe" == Joseph W Reiss <jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> writes: >Joe> Here's what you do to install the login panel of your choice... >Don't do all that! Instead, place the tiff in some likely location, >login as root, and do: > dwrite loginwindow ImageFile /LocalLibrary/Images/mylogin.tiff >It's more robust---even survives NS upgrades. > >-- >erik sowa (sowa@amdew.llnl.gov) and then run a shell script that picks out an image file at 'random' based on seconds of system uptime, soft link that to mylogin.tiff and have cron restart your window server. there was an old post in c.s.n.m. with a script to play a random sound selection called 'jukebox' or something that could be modified for login images. i haven't experimented with cron and restarting the window server (you'd probably want to check that nobody's logged on and then kill and restart WM.app). BTW the old 2.x app background still works (most of the time) on 3.1 black, so you can have an .eps or a slew of tiled .eps's behind that login window, and still have the 3.1 screen saver. i think i got mine off the Big Green CD ROM. ------------------------------------------------------------------ |Glenn Holm Internet:karuzis@wccf.mit.edu| |M.I.T Dept. of Brain + Cog. Sci. This VAX doesn't do NeXTmail | |Cambridge, MA 02139 "Real Neuroscientists don't do gels!" | ------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc From: bebeada@elof.iit.edu(Adam Beberg) Subject: lzh/pkzip/zoo/arc - uncompressor for the NeXT??? Message-ID: <1993Jul17.001116.4229@iitmax.iit.edu> Sender: news@iitmax.iit.edu (News) Organization: Illinois Institute of Technology / Academic Computing Center Date: Sat, 17 Jul 93 00:11:16 GMT Greetings all.... i am looking for an app that will handle some or all of the compression formats in my subject line... basicly the problem is that they are mostly used on PC's not under unix... this is causing me problems getting data from FTP sites -> my NeXT... i have checked the normal FTP sites for NeXT-souce/binarys with no luck if you know of such an app please NeXTMail me.... - Multa renascentur quae iam cecidere, cadentque | Adam Beberg. Quae nunc sunt in honore vocabula, si volet usus, | Golden Sphinx (tm) Quem penes arbitrium est et ius et norma loquendi. | bebeada@elof.iit.edu ))) In Sterio Where Available ((( | NeXTMail Welcome.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: wave@pixar.com (Michael B. Johnson) Subject: PhotoCD (was Re: NeXTtime ?) Message-ID: <1993Jul16.225902.17301@pixar.com> Sender: news@pixar.com (Usenet Newsmaster) Organization: Pixar -- Point Richmond, California References: <CA89Cp.9F9@agedwards.com> Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1993 22:59:02 GMT In article <CA89Cp.9F9@agedwards.com> cleelacj@agedwards.com (Chris Cleeland) writes: > peter@tu-graz.ac.at (Peter Resele) writes: > > Included with NS3.1 (both Intel & 68k) under /NextDeveloper/Demos is > an app called "PhotoCD.app". This allows the user to view images on > a Kodak format PhotoCD. If your CD player supports multiple sessions, > then you will have access to any slides placed on the CD AFTER the > initial cut of the CD. Umm, I don't think so. I haven't tried this (I write all my PhotoCDs as single session, just so I don't have to deal with this) but the various drives that implement multi-session do it in slightly different ways. Actually... straight from the horse's mouth (actually, PhotoAlbum.app's Help file): "The PhotoCD standard supports appending more images to your PhotoCD using "Multi-session" technology. Unfortunately, multi-session drives are currently not supported in NeXTSTEP 3.1. (Currently, the driver-level changes to support multi-session drives are vendor-specific) We will be looking into providing this in the future.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) Subject: Re: lzh/pkzip/zoo/arc - uncompressor for the NeXT??? Message-ID: <1993Jul17.020205.24574@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: DSO, Stanford University References: <1993Jul17.001116.4229@iitmax.iit.edu> Date: Sat, 17 Jul 93 02:02:05 GMT Adam Beberg writes > i am looking for an app that will handle some or all of the > compression formats in my subject line... Opener does many of these. From the Help file: > Unpacks/opens common kinds of archived files; handy when perusing > ftp servers. Currently knows: > > *.Z,tar,shar,lzh,uu unix compressed files > *.hqx,bin,sit macintosh archives > *.arc,zip,zoo msdos arc archives > *.PS (Preview misses cap .PS) Available at finer archive sites -- - Stefano Pagiola Food Research Institute, Stanford University spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged) spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: commands to turn a next laser printer on and off Message-ID: <69369@mimsy.umd.edu> Date: 17 Jul 93 02:12:55 GMT References: <22303g$c8n@news.u.washington.edu> <93196.093254U54876@uicvm.uic.edu> <jamast00.742765121@mik.uky.edu> Sender: news@mimsy.umd.edu Distribution: na Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742 jamast00@bigdaddy.mik.uky.edu (John A. Mastrolia) writes: > Another alternative is to place the command [nppower off] in your crontab.local file so > the printer turns off automatically every 30 minutes. It takes a little longer > to start up when a print job starts, but your printer will remain off until > it is needed. the problem with this approach is that if the printer is already off, the "nppower off" command first turns it on before immediately turning it back off. so doing this will power cycle the printer every half hour, which is probably not good for the printer. ideally, the nppower off command would only be issued if the printer was already off. -- Alex Blakemore alex@cs.umd.edu NeXT mail accepted -------------------------------------------------------------- "Without an engaged and motivated human being at the keyboard, the computer is just another dumb box." William Raspberry
From: jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Joseph W Reiss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NS3.1 Login Panel images on orst Date: 17 Jul 1993 03:58:47 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <227tdn$6uq@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> References: <2257o0$562@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <SOWA.93Jul16143905@amdew.llnl.gov> Well, due to an email suggestion I received and a post in this thread, I've quickly repackaged and resubmitted the login images to orst. The images are still the same (or they sure as heck SHOULD be), but I used tiff-utils to compress them, thus saving a bunch of space when decompressed. I also modified the README file to use the "proper" installation method. (Hey, I was just tweeking the installation instructions I got off the archive for 2.x!). Also, in order to shave just a tad more off of disk consumption, the tarchive was compressed with gnuzip. The appropriate files are on cs.orst.edu, /pub/next/submissions as BloomLogins.3.1.tar.gz and BloomLogins.3.1.README. Luckily for me the archive administrators hadn't had time to move them yet! Joe -- __________ | NeXTMail accepted, but not preferred | |___) | """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" \_/OE | \EISS | Real programmers don't write in Lisp. Only sissy `---- | programs contain more parentheses than actual code.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: dadams@dstrike.demon.co.uk (David Adams) Subject: Re: !!!! NeXT goes belly up !!!! Distribution: world References: <1993Jul13.121907.1386@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu> Organization: Data Strike Computers Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1993 19:45:41 +0000 Message-ID: <742851941snz@dstrike.demon.co.uk> Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk In article <1993Jul13.121907.1386@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu> jds@aplpy.jhuapl.edu writes: >JUST KIDDING. But I wanted to get your attention. I for one would rather you didn't. Some people pay for their access and read only messages whose subject line is of interest. > >Does anyone have any experience using the ATI EISA card under NS/I. Since >it didn't "just work" I tried other numerous settings and other worthless >crap just trying to get the entire test program to display something but >the card still blanks my Nano F550i at resolution higher than 640x480. I use an EISA ATi GUP in a Compaq 486M and it works fine under NeXT at up to 1024x768 in 16bit colour. I have the memory apperture enabled on both the card and the EISA configuration. I am using 24Mb RAM but it also worked when I had only 16. I have not had to change anything at all from my DOS setup with respect to card configuration. Installing NeXT required nothing special either. The card tests out fine under DOS at up to 1200x1000.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: harit@kripalu.com Subject: Re: PhotoCD's & NeXT Message-ID: <1993Jul16.194836.3400@uunet!cbmvax!xmws!kripalu> Sender: harit@uunet!cbmvax!xmws!kripalu Organization: Kripalu Center References: <1993Jul16.144542.15494@wri.com> Date: Fri, 16 Jul 93 19:48:36 GMT In article <1993Jul16.144542.15494@wri.com> Jeff Adams writes: > In article <1993Jul16.003730.22327@pixar.com> wave@pixar.com (Michael B. > Johnson) writes: > > > PhotoAlbum.app on the NeXT (bundled in 3.1) does all the conversion a > > NeXTer needs. Other than the PhotoShop plugin on the Mac (which lets you > > read the data in LAB) it's the best PhotoCD converter I've seen, > > especially since it provides a filter service which lets you import > > transparently into other apps. > > I personally think PhotoAlbum.app left out one major feature which I > was really hoping they would add. > > Namely, the ability to crop a photo at a smaller size and then only load in the > cropped image when you switch to one of the larger photo sizes. > > You really need this if you want to look at parts of the largest image size > without having 30-40 Megs necessary to load the entire image. > > I noticed in the Info Panel for PhotoAlbum, it makes reference to version 1.0 > of a "PhotoCDKit". > > Does this mean we may soon be able to buy a PhotoCD Developer's Kit from Kodak > made specifically for the NeXT? > The zoom feature you ask for sounds like what Steve did at the Expo. It was fast enough he may have preloaded the entire image at high res but it looked like he selected a reagon and asked for higher resolution. -- Michael Allen Latta Kripalu Center harit@kripalu.com (413)448-3288
From: jmb@tyche.merit.edu (Jim Blum) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Problems with S3 video - HELP! Date: 17 Jul 1993 05:49:27 GMT Organization: Merit Network, Inc. Ann Arbor, MI Distribution: world Message-ID: <2283t7$a9@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> I just got NSI going on my new machine. However, there is one big problem with it. When I start it up in the 800 X 600 color mode or the 1024 X 768 grey scalemode, my screen is out of sync. Anybody have any ideas on how to correct this? I am using a STB Powergraph VL-24 (S3 I think), and a CTX 1561 monitor (multi- sync) Thanks in advance. phone (313) 851-1996, e-mail jmb@merit.edu
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago, academic Computer Center Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1993 00:25:23 CDT From: <U54876@uicvm.uic.edu> Message-ID: <93198.002523U54876@uicvm.uic.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: * * * RightBrain Sale: 50% off through July (RTF) * * * References: <1262@rtbrain.rightbrain.com> <1993Jul16.153055.404@Happy-Man.com> In article <1993Jul16.153055.404@Happy-Man.com>, irving@Happy-Man.com (Irving_Wolfe) says: > >I've had PasteUp for a while now. In my opinion, anyone who has a >use for this sort of application and doesn't take advantage of the >50% discount is making a real mistake. It's one of the nicest, >most polished products I've seen for the NeXT. >-- > Irving_Wolfe@Happy-Man.com 206/463-9399 x101 fax 206/463-9255 I'm really confused. I am dying to purchase a page layout app for my machine, this deal is terrific, but I'm getting conflicting reports about PasteUp. Everyone can read the above glowing praise for PU (I probably shouldn't use that abbreviation), but I've heard strong negative comments also. The one that stands out in particular in my recollection is the statement that: "PasteUp is useless for anything more than 1 page layouts." This comment was backed by the fact that PasteUp crashed every time my friend attempted to change something in a two (or more) page layout and then save it. When he attempted to reopen the document, it was a garbage file. I am not trying to start inciteful rumors against PasteUp or RightBrain - I really like their products and the presence of their company in the NeXT universe. I also _really_ want to buy PasteUp. However, even the great prices can't justify purchasing a product that won't do what it says it should do. I'll stick with Virtuoso for 1-page layouts if this is the case. (Now there's a hot/exciting/polished product - and in version 1.0 no less!) Anyway, if anyone can assuage my fears, please do so - I am just looking for a reason (other than the $) to buy PasteUp. -tom nawara nirvana@boss.math.uic.edu (NeXT mail)
From: zmonster@athena.mit.edu (Eric M Hermanson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Printing Multiple Files, Multiple Terminal Sessions over Modem? Date: 17 Jul 1993 06:59:30 GMT Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology Distribution: world Message-ID: <22880i$ob8@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> I am sure this has been answered before, but does NEXTSTEP 3.x have a way of printing multiple postscript files at once? I had a need to do this today when I wanted to print out a batch of .ps documents, but quickly realized I had to resort to printing them one by one. I know NS lacked batch printing capabilities in the past, but if they haven't fixed it by now, they should be ashamed of themselves! Batch printing is commonplace enough for it to warrant being included at the NS/OS level (without going into UNIX). Secondly, while I am at it, is there a version of kermit that will support *multiple* sessions? I would like to download files while reading mail, etc, in another terminal window. If not kermit, is there any other public domain terminal software that allows multiple sessions over a modem? Thanks, Eric
From: mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (alex) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXTcube <--> PowerBook Duo 230, FYI. Message-ID: <88452@ut-emx.uucp> Date: 17 Jul 93 04:57:53 GMT Sender: news@ut-emx.uucp Organization: Klatu Verata Necktie I thought this might be of general interest... I just bought a MiniDock for my Apple PowerBook Duo 230 yesterday along with the SCSI disk adapter which allows the Duo 230 to act like an external HD to another Mac. Since I ftp files to my Mac at work and then transfer them to the NeXT via serial line I thought it might be nice to try the SCSI disk mode on the NeXT. I set the Duo to ID 3, hooked them up, started them both and voila... there was "HD 120" mounted as an Apple volume (nice little icon of a disk with an apple on it). Copying files back and forth was just a matter of dragging them around as usual and GIF and JPG files could be read by ImageViewer right off the Apple drive. Nice. Much faster than a 38400 serial link. My setup is as follows... NeXTcube '040 16/349 NS3.0, PB Duo 230 12/120 Sys7.1. Ironically the HD in my powerbook is an IBM. ---------------------------------- Alex Currier HotLine Technical Support Texas Union MicroCenter, UT Austin ----------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: wkwong@lyapunov.eng.ohio-state.edu (Waihon Andrew Kwong) Subject: Can't make NeXT Floppy Message-ID: <1993Jul17.125440.1831@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu> Sender: news@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu Organization: The Ohio State University Dept of Electrical Engineering Distribution: usa Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1993 12:54:40 GMT Hi, I have just upgraded to NS3.1 and I have no long be able to initialize Floppy. Is it a Bug? Is there any work around? I will summarize if I can get enough information. Thanks, Andy
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: wkwong@lyapunov.eng.ohio-state.edu (Waihon Andrew Kwong) Subject: SyBase Lib - is it still included in NS3.1? Message-ID: <1993Jul17.125916.1899@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu> Sender: news@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu Organization: The Ohio State University Dept of Electrical Engineering References: <1993Jul17.125440.1831@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu> Distribution: usa Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1993 12:59:16 GMT Hi, I have just upgraded to NS3.1 and I found there isn't a package for SyBase-DB Lib as it is in NS3.0. Is this Library still bundled? Or I have to use the one in NS3.0?? Thanks in advance, Andy
From: matthews@is-next.umd.edu (Mike Matthews) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Intel GX Machines for NeXTStep 486 Date: 17 Jul 1993 15:03:46 GMT Organization: University Of Maryland, College Park, MD Distribution: world Message-ID: <2294ci$pfe@umd5.umd.edu> References: <CA4oG4.Fur@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> <1993Jul15.194450.2412@qb.rhein-main.de> <226p5o$orf@disuns2.epfl.ch> In article <226p5o$orf@disuns2.epfl.ch> matomira@di.epfl.ch (Fernando Mato Mira) writes: >You'll have to wait for at least 1 and a half years, I think. [for a port of NeXTstep to SGI] I've been having some unofficial/informal talks with some SGI folks and they don't seem to really care much about porting NeXTstep at all -- these folks don't see any market and they'd rather tout their own software. I'd love to see NeXTstep on an SGI but it's going to take quite a bit of convincing. >Fernando D. Mato Mira ------ Mike Matthews, matthewm@sgate.com (NeXTmail accepted) ------ Turnaucka's Law: The attention span of a computer is only as long as its electrical cord.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: andersen@reality.glv.com (Robert Andersen) Subject: Re: Intel GX Machines for NeXTStep 486 Message-ID: <1993Jul17.135743.2849@glv.uucp> Sender: usenet@glv.uucp Organization: Encompass References: <1993Jul16.223546.18008@ennews.eas.asu.edu> Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1993 13:57:43 GMT Operator writes > -Please take note on what you are getting. The GX boxes have built-in > audio they are also designed with a 64-bit architecture in which gateway > supports a 32-bit architecture. So I have to buy a sound board, I can live without sound for right now. If I want to improve performance I can always pop in a Pentium Overdrive chip or the 486-100 (if they ever come out with it). > -Wait till you compare there performance once the pentium is out. You > machine may have some erroneous errors on compatability. I have some compatability problems with a 3COM Etherlink III network card, I tried an Intel EtherExpress and it worked fine. Your last line also applies to the Intel pentium boxes, there might be compatability problems with those. The bottom line is this, for the money that I had, I have a machine with enough disk space to last quite a while and the ability to upgrade processors for a reasonable price. -- Robert John Andersen andersen@reality.glv.com Encompass 113 Edinburgh South Suite 200 Cary, NC 27511 919-460-3285 Voice 919-460-3295 Fax
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) Subject: I need a bigger cursor Message-ID: <1993Jul17.023810.422@weston.com> Sender: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1993 02:38:10 GMT Don't we all. I am doing a demo Monday, and have the LCD display for the weekend. I have found the original cursor to be small. If you have something to fix this temporarily, please mail it to me. THanks Wes Spears jspears@weston.com -- Wes Spears <-------> jspears@weston.com (NeXTMail Welcome) The Weston Group 8524 Highway 6 North, 162, Houston, TX 77095
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: kent@infoserv.com Subject: Re: commands to turn a next laser printer on and off Message-ID: <CA8Mru.50v@infoserv.com> Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard) Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting References: <22303g$c8n@news.u.washington.edu> Distribution: na Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1993 03:23:53 GMT In article <22303g$c8n@news.u.washington.edu> cph@biostat.washington.edu (Chisheng Huang) writes: #I'd like to be able to turn a NeXT laser printer on and off #while my NeXT computer is running. Does anybody know what #commands I should use? Thank you. # nppower off - turns it off or you can just use the SleepPrinter application. Trying to print will turn it on. Kent -- /* K.L. Shephard Consulting is my company. Infoserv only delivers my mail. */ /* Please direct mail to kent@infoserv.com other adresses may not work. */
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: fo6r@ellis.uchicago.edu (Eric's NeXT Fortune) Subject: You and your Swapfile Message-ID: <1993Jul17.182548.22178@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@uchinews.uchicago.edu (News System) Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic & Public Computing Distribution: na Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1993 18:25:48 GMT Just for my and the net's general information, someone please give specifics on the operation of the swapfile. I think that swapfile compression and its performance boost are well known in this group, as is the fact that once the amount swapped out exceeds the lowat (usually 16 meg) that the swapfile "grows and grows." Although I am interested in the some specifics of swapfile operation, I am most interested in why the swapfile cannot be reduced to the lowat until reboot. If big processes are exited, why can't the swapfile be re-mapped to reclaim the unused memory... How is swapfile memory allocated and reclaimed? Does the lowat do anything else other than at reboot or restart? Is there a way, beyond getting more RAM (which is a given) and running fewer apps, of managing your swapfile? Lastly, what is the optimal lowat size and why? I have heard that the lowat should be roughly equal to the RAM in one's machine. What is the benefit/costs of a lower or higher lowat? Just curious, - eric fortune fo6r@midway.uchicago.edu
From: cs438@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Denis LaFont) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Canon hardware deal/NS on PPC Date: 17 Jul 1993 18:50:41 GMT Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA) Message-ID: <229hm1$858@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> You dreamed about Canon ? Sure it was a good thing... I know the japanese market a little, and the asian too. Canon can have a killer workstation, and take the lead in Japan... But japanese are japanese, and nothing will change... Denis -- _________________________________________________________________ Denis LAFONT, Software Engineer e-mail : cs438@cleveland.freenet.edu -no NeXT Mail please ;-(- Disclaimer: Any opinions expressed are mine.
From: matomira@di.epfl.ch (Fernando Mato Mira) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc Subject: Re: Intel GX Machines for NeXTStep 486 Date: 17 Jul 1993 20:23:34 GMT Organization: Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne Distribution: world Message-ID: <229n46$mcq@disuns2.epfl.ch> References: <CA4oG4.Fur@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> <1993Jul15.194450.2412@qb.rhein-main.de> <226p5o$orf@disuns2.epfl.ch> <2294ci$pfe@umd5.umd.edu> In article <2294ci$pfe@umd5.umd.edu>, matthews@is-next.umd.edu (Mike Matthews) writes: > In article <226p5o$orf@disuns2.epfl.ch> matomira@di.epfl.ch (Fernando Mato Mira) writes: > >You'll have to wait for at least 1 and a half years, I think. > [for a port of NeXTstep to SGI] > > I've been having some unofficial/informal talks with some SGI folks and they > don't seem to really care much about porting NeXTstep at all -- these folks > don't see any market and they'd rather tout their own software. > > I'd love to see NeXTstep on an SGI but it's going to take quite a bit of > convincing. > Yeah, I know they have been vague enough when I asked some months ago. But anyway, why should they care? It's NeXT who should do the job. Or, do you think they are so eager at SGI about porting Solaris? On the other hand, I am doubting now if I have messed up a bit and I got the quote about "not before two years" when talking (also) about Windows NT some months ago. Now, that's something they must be caring more about (money talks). In any case, the "wait for a least 1 and a half years" still applies. But as you indicate, that might be a very, very long wait indeed... I would be happy just having a Mach kernel on my SGI, for starters... -- Fernando D. Mato Mira Computer Graphics Lab "There is only one Language Swiss Federal Institute of Technology and McCarthy is its prophet" matomira@di.epfl.ch FAX : +41 (21) 693 - 5328 Disclaimer: disclaim([],[]). disclaim([H|T],[DH,DT]) :- fixed_point_disclaimer(H,DH), disclaim(T,DT). fixed_point_disclaimer(Text,fixed_point_disclaimer(Text,_)).
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: philip@nexus.yorku.ca (Phil McDunnough) Subject: Re: * * * RightBrain Sale: 50% off through July (RTF) * * * Message-ID: <CAByyq.BqG@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca> Sender: news@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca (USENET News System) Organization: York University, CS Dept. Toronto References: <1262@rtbrain.rightbrain.com> <1993Jul16.153055.404@Happy-Man.com> <93198.002523U54876@uicvm.uic.edu> Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1993 22:40:02 GMT In article <93198.002523U54876@uicvm.uic.edu> <U54876@uicvm.uic.edu> writes: [ ] > >I'm really confused. I am dying to purchase a page layout app for my machine, >this deal is terrific, but I'm getting conflicting reports about PasteUp. >Everyone can read the above glowing praise for PU (I probably shouldn't use >that abbreviation), but I've heard strong negative comments also. The one >that stands out in particular in my recollection is the statement that: >"PasteUp is useless for anything more than 1 page layouts." This comment was >backed by the fact that PasteUp crashed every time my friend attempted to >change something in a two (or more) page layout and then save it. When he >attempted to reopen the document, it was a garbage file. >I am not trying to start inciteful rumors against PasteUp or RightBrain - I >really like their products and the presence of their company in the NeXT >universe. I also _really_ want to buy PasteUp. However, even the great prices >can't justify purchasing a product that won't do what it says it should do. >I'll stick with Virtuoso for 1-page layouts if this is the case. (Now there's >a hot/exciting/polished product - and in version 1.0 no less!) Hmm...I had the opportunity to use PasteUp2.0 for around 3 weeks. Now at the time I was on the search for a companion to Equation Builder, and there does not exist such a product for the NeXT now other than NeXT TeX. That being said, I tried all kinds of things (including dropping 32 page Postscript files into it- the NeXT hardware guide). It worked great. I am not a DTP'ing expert, but I just can't see any justification for the "useful for 1 page layout designs' statement". It's simply not true. Perhaps your friend was simply not using version 2.0? I think people might regret not taking advantage of this July special. Now if only RighBrain's 800 number worked from Canada... -- Philip McDunnough philip@nexus.yorku.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: philip@nexus.yorku.ca (Phil McDunnough) Subject: Re: Intel GX Machines for NeXTStep 486 Message-ID: <CABzIF.CDu@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca> Sender: news@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca (USENET News System) Organization: York University, CS Dept. Toronto References: <1993Jul15.194450.2412@qb.rhein-main.de> <226p5o$orf@disuns2.epfl.ch> <2294ci$pfe@umd5.umd.edu> Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1993 22:51:51 GMT In article <2294ci$pfe@umd5.umd.edu> matthews@is-next.umd.edu (Mike Matthews) writes: [ ] > >I've been having some unofficial/informal talks with some SGI folks and they >don't seem to really care much about porting NeXTstep at all -- these folks >don't see any market and they'd rather tout their own software. > >I'd love to see NeXTstep on an SGI but it's going to take quite a bit of >convincing. For what it's worth I really don't see it as a big deal not having NS on any SGI computer. This latest offering is not inexpensive when you take into account all kinds of hidden costs, sw costs, maintenance, HD, peripherals, etc... SGI is a marginal company with a niche appeal. Moreover their multimedia advantage is being chipped away rapidly by others, including the Mac and the PC. They don't have the volume, DEC's alpha may very well hurt them badly, and by the time multimedia is actually well-defined micros will be ready to step in. Everything is volume, and ntel has it. The priority should be getting NS running on Intel PC's and supporting as many peripherals as possible. As a simple example this means getting away from this SCSI obsession for CD-ROM drives. It only adds to the cost and provides very limited benefits, if any. Another would be to support the Sound Blaster which is the sound card for PC's. Seamless integration of Windows is not a priority. Let Insignia work on that. However, inexpensive tape backup support would be great. One of the problems with providing a better DOS than DOS and a better Windows than Windows is that the developers then have only an incentive to develop for Windows. This happened in at least one major application which had been slated for OS/2, but that port is now in doubt. Instead the people chose to move more into Windows (since OS/2 ran the product fine as a Windows' app), port to the Mac and to Unix (under X). That product is well known to many of the TeX users here... -- Philip McDunnough philip@nexus.yorku.ca
From: tyfung@uclink.berkeley.edu (Tin-Yau Fung) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Starting Point Kit question? Date: 18 Jul 1993 00:59:31 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Distribution: world Message-ID: <22a79j$koa@agate.berkeley.edu> Hello, I just have a brief question. Is the staring point kit the same for a NeXTstation and a NeXTstatoin Color? Please take the time to reply if you have the answer. Thanks in advance.
From: jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Joseph W Reiss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: commands to turn a next laser printer on and off Date: 18 Jul 1993 03:02:01 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Distribution: na Message-ID: <22aef9$7la@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> References: <22303g$c8n@news.u.washington.edu> Cph@biostat.washington.edu (Chisheng Huang) wrote... >I'd like to be able to turn a NeXT laser printer on and off >while my NeXT computer is running. Does anybody know what >commands I should use? Thank you. Well, to add more food to this thread, here's a TickleService that I just hammered together (my first). It adds a Printer submenu to your Services menu. Within this menu are two commands: Printer On and Printer Off. They both just call /usr/etc/nppower with the appropriate parameters, but they're a heckuva lot easier that pulling up a shell all the time. You should just be able to cut out the stuff between the lines and save it as "~/Library/TickleServices/Printer.ts", or wherever you keep your TickleServices. Oh, and of course you'll need the TickleServices package, too. ------------------------------ Snip 8< ------------------------------ # Begin TickleServices Version 1.02mab Data "Divider" = "155.000000"; "Menu Item" = "!Initialization!"; "Tcl" = "# Services initialization code."; "Window Size" = "{ 605.000, 336.000}"; | "Menu Item" = "Printer/Printer Off"; "Send Type" = "NXAsciiPboardType"; "Send Type" = "NXFilenamePboardType"; "Send Type" = "NXFontPboardType"; "Send Type" = "NXPostScriptPboardType"; "Send Type" = "NXRTFPboardType"; "Send Type" = "NXRulerPboardType"; "Send Type" = "NXTIFFPboardType"; "Send Type" = "NXTabularTextPboardType"; "Tcl" = "\ # Turn the NeXT's printer off exec /usr/etc/nppower off "; | "Menu Item" = "Printer/Printer On"; "Send Type" = "NXAsciiPboardType"; "Send Type" = "NXFilenamePboardType"; "Send Type" = "NXFontPboardType"; "Send Type" = "NXPostScriptPboardType"; "Send Type" = "NXRTFPboardType"; "Send Type" = "NXRulerPboardType"; "Send Type" = "NXTIFFPboardType"; "Send Type" = "NXTabularTextPboardType"; "Tcl" = "\ # Turn the NeXT's printer on exec /usr/etc/nppower on "; # End TickleServices Data ------------------------------ >8 Unsnip ------------------------------ Joe -- __________ | NeXTMail accepted, but not preferred | |___) | """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" \_/OE | \EISS | But Keptin...evweyone knows that .sigs vere inwented `---- | by a wittle old lady in Wussia? In SIGovia, I beweive.
From: russell@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Russell Schulz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT Shirts Message-ID: <930717.143718.7s2.rusnews.w164w@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1993 14:37:18 MDT References: <222cp2$rc@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu> <CA7HMp.5sw@news2.cis.umn.edu> Organization: Private System, Edmonton, AB, Canada jhall@tahiti.umhc.umn.edu (Jeff Hallgren) writes: > Hermann Marketing > 1400 North Price Road > St. Louis, MO 63132-2308 > 1-800-972-1331 > fax (314) 432-1818 non-800 voice: 314 432 1800 when they say `stay on the line to leave a message', don't - it lies. I just hit `2' for orders and didn't leave a credit card # or phone #. -- Russell Schulz russell@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca ersys!rschulz Shad 86c
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: coconut@crash.cts.com (Brian Dear) Subject: Re: commands to turn a next laser printer on and off Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA Distribution: na Date: 17 Jul 93 21:05:49 PDT Message-ID: <1993Jul17.210549.3449@crash> References: <69369@mimsy.umd.edu> Alex Blakemore (alex@cs.umd.edu) wrote: : [...] : the problem with this approach is that if the printer is already off, : the "nppower off" command first turns it on before immediately turning : it back off. so doing this will power cycle the printer every half hour, : which is probably not good for the printer. : : ideally, the nppower off command would only be issued if the printer was : already off. : : -- : Alex Blakemore alex@cs.umd.edu NeXT mail accepted Which begs the question, "where's the npstatus" command? Returns 1 if power is on, 0 if off, or some other value if error. Then you could write a crontab script that checks to see the STATUS of the printer and only turns it off if it is indeed on. Possible?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: Zacharias J. Beckman <zac@dolphin.com> Subject: Re: NewsGrazer...NewsGrazer...NewsGrazer...It's long overdue... Message-ID: <1993Jul18.055731.1698@dolphin.com> Sender: zac@dolphin.com Organization: Dolphin Software References: <1vatqpINN1qs@clem.handheld.com> Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1993 05:57:31 GMT Jim De Arras writes > That someone who is writting a NS newreader would call trn a really cool > newsreader causes me concern as to the "nextness" of his NS reader!! > > :-) Has anyone compiled the Japanese-based newsreader that was distributed on the BANG CD-ROM? I've not tried yet... but, would love to if I had the time! :-) Don't know how it compares to NewsGrazer, though... -- Zacharias J. Beckman - Dolphin Technologies Inc. - zac@dolphin.com - NeXTMAIL! To be "matter of fact" about the world is to blunder into fantasy.... and dull fantasy at that, as the real world is strange and wonderful. --- R. A. Heinlen Those opinions I express herein are my own, I'm fairly sure. --- Z. J. Beckman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: Zacharias J. Beckman <zac@dolphin.com> Subject: Re: Comments on PasteUp (was: RightBrain Sale: 50% off) Message-ID: <1993Jul18.053758.1565@dolphin.com> Sender: zac@dolphin.com Organization: Dolphin Software References: <93198.002523U54876@uicvm.uic.edu> Distribution: usa Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1993 05:37:58 GMT <U54876@uicvm.uic.edu> writes > Everyone can read the above glowing praise for PU (I probably shouldn't use > that abbreviation), but I've heard strong negative comments also. The one > that stands out in particular in my recollection is the statement that: > ... I've got to give you my vote of praise for PasteUp. I've been using it to produce everything from one or two page articles to four page brochures with ease and without any major complaints. Version 2.0 is many times more stable than the 1.x releases (which did have some significant problems). Under the latest release I have only once caused a crash, and PasteUp was kind enough to supply me with a file.CRASH.pasteup (or something like that) from which I recovered all my work. There are a few quirks that take getting used to, but once you have it you'll love it. It's fast, easy to use, and I like the way it handles multi-page documents. -- Zacharias J. Beckman - Dolphin Technologies Inc. - zac@dolphin.com - NeXTMAIL! To be "matter of fact" about the world is to blunder into fantasy.... and dull fantasy at that, as the real world is strange and wonderful. --- R. A. Heinlen Those opinions I express herein are my own, I'm fairly sure. --- Z. J. Beckman
From: wrob@unixg.ubc.ca (Robert Wong) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: FTP'ing from ftp.next.com Date: 18 Jul 1993 09:32:46 GMT Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada Distribution: world Message-ID: <22b5buINN721@skeena.ucs.ubc.ca> Hi, I was just trying to ftp from next. Note that all files are now in ftp.next.com (versus next.com). How does one FTP a whole directory??? It seems that old version of the SupportBulletin and the new NEXTSTEP in Focus DON'T have the whole issue as a single .tar.Z file. I'd like to get these files and NeXTanswers, but I'm not too pleased about first creating a directory on my work machine and then "mget"ting the files. Is there a better way? RWW. -- Robert W. Wong Jr. wrob@unixg.ubc.ca (ASCII only) Crasher of Automated Banking Machines and Keeper of the ZyXEL FAQ
From: zryx0376@awssg6.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel (Hiwi bei R.Rabenseifner)) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: making gzip Date: 18 Jul 1993 09:27:38 GMT Organization: Visualization Group Comp.Center (RUS) U of Stuttgart, FRG Message-ID: <22b52a$ok8@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> References: <1993Jul14.175919.265@sunova.ssc.gov> In article <1993Jul14.175919.265@sunova.ssc.gov> Ed_Faught@ssc.gov writes: >When I try to make gzip the compiler complains about missing header files. I >have to have overlooked something obvious; what? Add a -D_POSIX_SOURCE. Regards, Markus. -- /dev Markus Wenzel, University of Stuttgart /usr/spool/mail wenzel@rus.uni-stuttgart.de ~/.ircrc/nick Marsu /etc/motd NeXTSTEP for Intel - Come on and join!
From: zryx0376@awssg6.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel (Hiwi bei R.Rabenseifner)) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Tape driver behaviour in NS/I :-(( Date: 18 Jul 1993 09:41:49 GMT Organization: Visualization Group Comp.Center (RUS) U of Stuttgart, FRG Distribution: world Message-ID: <22b5st$geg@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> Hi NeXTers, I got a brand new Sankyo CP 525 QIC-Streamer (up to 520 MB) for my NS/Intel box. I made my first backup on a brand new cartrdige, everything went fine. But... - I cannot read any tape written from a different Unix (e.g. Linux, Sun OS, ISC, ...) - If the NS/I tape driver gets his hands on a tape that was ever written from a different OS, he refuses to write on that tape at all! No read, no write, no go :-(( All I get is "I/O error". I do not want to buy new tapes just for this **** NS/I. At least, NS/I can read its own backup tape. Wow... Any comments on this? Help appreciated! Markus. -- /dev Markus Wenzel, University of Stuttgart /usr/spool/mail wenzel@rus.uni-stuttgart.de ~/.ircrc/nick Marsu /etc/motd NeXTSTEP for Intel - Come on and join!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: thf@zelator.in-berlin.de (Thomas Funke) Subject: Re: making gzip Message-ID: <1993Jul17.130850.795@gamelan> Sender: thomas@gamelan (thomas) Organization: Disorganization References: <1993Jul15.140613.24751@sunova.ssc.gov> Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1993 13:08:50 GMT In article <1993Jul15.140613.24751@sunova.ssc.gov> faught@berserk.ssc.gov (Ed Faught) writes: > berserk:gzip-1.2.3 18> make > gcc -c -DASMV -DNO_UTIME_H=1 -DVOID_CLOSEDIR=1 -DRETSIGTYPE=int -O gzip.c > gzip.c:51: ctype.h: No such file or directory Your installation of gcc is not correct. Run fixincludes. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Thomas Funke ** Unix-Consultant ** thf@zelator.in-berlin.de Brook's Law: Adding manpower to a late software project makes it later ------------------------------------------------------------------
From: cs438@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Denis LaFont) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: FTP'ing from ftp.next.com Date: 18 Jul 1993 14:37:27 GMT Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA) Message-ID: <22bn77$c8a@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> y Hello, If you want to ftp the whole directory: 1- If your NeXTSTEP machine has access to the Net use GatorFtp +(found on sonata.cc.purdue.edu) 2- If you have an X Window machine on the net, use Ftptool4.5 or xftp (both on export.lcs.mit.edu I supposed) Denis -- _________________________________________________________________ Denis LAFONT, Software Engineer e-mail : cs438@cleveland.freenet.edu -no NeXT Mail please ;-(- Disclaimer: Any opinions expressed are mine.
From: mgilula@gerilla.tigger.rsmas.miami.edu (Marshall Gilula) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NewsGrazer and "From:" line problems Date: 18 Jul 1993 11:27:03 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9307181546.AA00516@gerilla.tigger.rsmas.miami.edu> ATTENTION: my header may be a bit FUBAR, and you may need to email me at the tigger address given below if hitting "r" doesn't work in your mailer. Private email responses sent to me will be summarized and re-posted. my hostname (and my uucpname) is "gerilla". As a user, I am identified in my system as "mgilula". I have a 40-660 040 Cube running 3.0. There is an additional 2.4G Seagate (SCSI) performing adequately and the only serious modification I have made to my system is the "b sd() sdmach nbuf=128". I went into my NewsGrazer app and found under Preferences, Post, that in the "From" window I have "gerilla.gerilla!mgilula(Marshall Gilula)" and that I am unable to remove this from the window by any means I know about. I wonder if this is coming from my C-news installation I attempted some months ago just to get "inews" (still not working) or whether it is from something else. It seems that whatever is "causing" this might be related to my horrific "From" lines that I get in my Mail messages. Especially the fact that I am unable to empty the window...whenever I try to do so, and hit the "OK" button, the unwanted address returns to the window. If I put another address in the window like, "mgilula@tigger.rsmas.miami.edu," it appears to stay in the window, but it's as though the "From" window in the Preferences of NewsGrazer demands something... (sorry for the anthropomorphism) 8-| -73- --- Marshall F. Gilula, M.D "El que busca mucho nada encuentra, pero mgilula@tigger.rsmas.miami.edu el que busca nada mucho encuentra" (NeXTMail OK ) NeRD#1054 Co-Founder, MiamiNUG ******standard disclaimers apply***** "People: Love 'em or else leave 'em alone!!"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: ctm@ardi.com Subject: Re: Tape driver behaviour in NS/I :-(( Message-ID: <CADBxv.K8p@cobra.cs.unm.edu> Keywords: Eminent: conspicuous; Imminent: likely to occur at any moment! Sender: news@cobra.cs.unm.edu Organization: ARDI References: <22b5st$geg@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1993 16:17:57 GMT In article <22b5st$geg@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> zryx0376@awssg6.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel (Hiwi bei R.Rabenseifner)) writes: >Hi NeXTers, > >I got a brand new Sankyo CP 525 QIC-Streamer (up to 520 MB) for my >NS/Intel box. I made my first backup on a brand new cartrdige, >everything went fine. >But... > >- I cannot read any tape written from a different Unix (e.g. Linux, > Sun OS, ISC, ...) >- If the NS/I tape driver gets his hands on a tape that was ever > written from a different OS, he refuses to write on that tape > at all! No read, no write, no go :-(( > >All I get is "I/O error". >I do not want to buy new tapes just for this **** NS/I. >At least, NS/I can read its own backup tape. Wow... > >Any comments on this? I have a QIC-something tape drive hooked up to a NeXTstation and after everytime I reboot, I run the following program if I want to use the tapedrive: #include <sys/types.h> #include <nextdev/scsireg.h> main() { long l; l = 512; ioctl(1, MTIOCFIXBLK, &l); } NOTE: this program just does its stuff to stdout, so you need to compile it (I call it tapefix) and then run it with stdout redirected to your tape drive. For me the invocation is: # tapefix > /dev/nrst0 or maybe it's: # tapefix > /dev/rst0 I doubt that it matters which you do, but I seem to recall that last time I did this I had to run tapefix twice, but I don't remember why. I have no idea whether or not this will help Markus, but I doubt that it will hurt. I got the idea by perusing ".h" files and lo it worked for me. --Cliff[ord T. Matthews] ctm@ardi.com __________________ Executor on sale through August 31. Eminent death of the net predicted.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: bruce@TotSysSoft.com (Bruce Gingery) Subject: Re: NeXT mail what options do I have? Message-ID: <1993Jul18.161914.4032@ToTSySSoft.com> Sender: news@ToTSySSoft.com Organization: Total System Software References: <CA61Co.4q@news.iastate.edu> Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1993 16:19:14 GMT In article <CA61Co.4q@news.iastate.edu> tlm@tantalus.scl.ameslab.gov (Dr. T. L. Marchioro II) writes: [snip] -> just mail that file to yourself, either from the -> command line prompt> mail myself < name_of_file -> or else in Mail.app itself. -> -> [] -> []PS is this a FAQ? -> [] -> -> I'd say so. Hope this helps --- Tom If you use sendmail -bm -t as root instead of command-line mail, you should be able to preserve the originator's address for replys. Bruce Gingery bruce@TotSysSoft.com Total System Software -- the authors of DFax for NEXTSTEP
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: gindling@rintintin.Colorado.EDU (GINDLING JIM) Subject: NextStep for PowerPC chips? Message-ID: <gindling.742927707@rintintin.Colorado.EDU> Summary: NextStep for PowerPC chips? Keywords: NextStep for PowerPC chips? Sender: news@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1993 16:48:27 GMT Does anybody happen to know if Next plans on porting it's NextStep operating system to PowerPC computers when they become available? Thanks in advance. Jim Gindling
From: Lee_Robert_Willis@cup.portal.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NS/FIP can't see my CD_ROM Message-ID: <85792@cup.portal.com> Date: Sun, 18 Jul 93 11:11:49 PDT Organization: The Portal System (TM) Distribution: world Yet another person with NS/FIP installation problems. (I've tried calling the NeXT support line, but so far haven't managed to talk to a human yet, just the answering machine.) I'm trying to install on a DELL 466M machine. I have an external CD-ROM drive plugged in as SCSI Id 0, which works fine under DOS, but the NS install program can't seem to see it (message "No CD-ROM drive found") I also seem to be getting some Objective-C runtime error messages from the install program (e.g. "configureDriver: Coulnd't find class named SMC16") The following are all the messages (that hadn't already scrolled off the screen) I got while trying to install: Resetting SCSI bus Registering: hc0 IDE drive 0 using MultiSector Mode Registering: hd0 Registering: hd0a hd0: no valid disk label hd0: Device Block Size: 512 bytes hd0: Device Capacity: 432 Mb Registering fc0: Registering fd0: Registering fd0a: fd0: Device Block Size: 512 bytes fd0: Device Capacity; 1440 Kb fd0: Disk Label: Install_3.1 class `SMC16' not linked into application configureDriver: Coulnd't find class named SMC16 class `EtherExpress16' not linked into application configureDriver: Couldn't find class named EtherExpress16 Registering: VGADisplay0 Registering: event0 Registering: kmDevice0 No CD-ROM drive found: use sd%d, hd%d, or fd%d root device? Anybody seen these messages before, or know what to do about them? Thanks, Lee Lee_Robert_Willis@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: gerald@kurt.in-berlin.de (Gerald Erdmann) Subject: Re: Thoughts on User3.1 for black hardware installation Message-ID: <1993Jul6.230851.306@kurt.in-berlin.de> Sender: gerald@kurt.in-berlin.de References: <thompsonC8rB83.2J3@netcom.com> Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1993 23:08:51 GMT In article <thompsonC8rB83.2J3@netcom.com> thompson@netcom.com (Eric Thompson) writes: > - What is /cmos.ram? This file was created by SoftPC. I don't know what it mean exactly. -------------------------------------------------------------- | GERALD ERDMANN | email: gerald @ kurt.in-berlin.de (NeXTmail welcome) | voice: +49 30 372 43 10 (Germany - Berlin) |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: bill@bilver.uucp (Bill Vermillion) Subject: Re: Intel GX Machines for NeXTStep 486 Organization: W. J. Vermillion - Orlando / Winter Park, FL Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1993 14:43:06 GMT Message-ID: <1993Jul18.144306.12462@bilver.uucp> References: <1993Jul15.214118.7950@sol.UVic.CA> <CA9HHI.152@ripple.uunet> In article <CA9HHI.152@ripple.uunet> df@watershed.com (Dirk P. Fromhein) writes: > >One thing, the Intel GX requires 72 pin x 70ns TIN leeds. >You can use gold. Since the SIMM sockets are tin, if you use gold and get >condenstation on the contacts... you get a battery! > >BTW: SIMM prices just went up again,... I'm getting a tad tired of these price >increases. You may be tired of the increases, but they are not going to stop going up for awhile. There was an explosion at a Japanese chemical plant last month. That plant supplied about 60% of the needs of the RAM industry. Until it gets rebuilt, or other sources come on line, prices are going to high and higher. -- Bill Vermillion - bill@bilver.uucp OR bill@bilver.oau.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: wkwong@lyapunov.eng.ohio-state.edu (Waihon Andrew Kwong) Subject: Help on Disk formmating in NeXT(black) Message-ID: <1993Jul19.012734.3833@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu> Sender: news@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu Organization: The Ohio State University Dept of Electrical Engineering Distribution: usa Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1993 01:27:34 GMT Hi, I have just upgraded to NS3.1 and I have no long be able to initialize Floppy. Is it a Bug? Is there any work around? I'm using a DIT external floppy at sd2. Even more: I also find that the MAC and DOS DISKs I put in becomes "OD" in my file browser. If I lock the disk, I will even get a CD ICON! What a surprise! If you put in the DOS/MAC disk, DO you get a DISK ICON out? I will summarize if I can get enough information. Thanks, Andy.
From: perkins@sidney.cps.msu.edu (Stephen Perkins) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NXSystemFonts definition in X11 Date: 19 Jul 1993 01:41:01 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Distribution: world Message-ID: <22cu3d$11sr@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> I grabbed the X11 server off of foxtrot and it seems to have installed fine. However, whenever I start the X server (and two xterms), the following two messages get appened to /usr/adm/messages: syslog: Couldn't find default font for default NXSystemFonts syslog: Couldn't find default font for default NXBoldSystemFonts I have looked in my Next resources (thru dread -l) and my .Xdefaults file and I find no references to these fonts. I tried to make aliases to them in a fonts.alias (along with xset and mkfontdir etc) file and still no luck (xlsfonts would show font names nxsystemfonts and nxboldsystemfonts in all lowercase). The fonts on many applications seem screwed up when viewed on my NeXT. I checked the FAQs but couldn't find anything helpful. Anybody know how to correct this? Many thanks for any responses! - Steve ==================================================================== Stephen Perkins | Department of Computer Science | perkins@cps.msu.edu Michigan State University |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: veum@nxttl.physics.missouri.edu (Eric L. Veum) Subject: McGill-X Package and SGI - Anyone have a .4Dwmrc file for it Message-ID: <1993Jul19.024220.26290@mont.cs.missouri.edu> Sender: news@mont.cs.missouri.edu Organization: University of Missouri Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1993 02:42:20 GMT I have the McGill-X package and I need to run it with a SGI. However, I need to rewrite the initialization file system.4Dwmrc and the personal file ~/.4Dwmrc so they work with the McGill X package w/o all those errors. Has anyone done this with this package?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.software From: dav@well.sf.ca.us (Paul Davilon) Subject: NS Serial Port Drivers Message-ID: <CAE5ys.HFu@well.sf.ca.us> Keywords: Is there anybody home? Sender: news@well.sf.ca.us Organization: The Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link, Sausalito, CA Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1993 03:06:28 GMT Looking up from my Windows desktop and gazing over at my personal edition of the "$10,000 paperweight" as someome so succiently put it I look at the calendar and am struck with the thought: hey, there are only a very few days left in mid-July, gosh I guess that means NeXT will be coming out with the new serial port drivers ANY MINUTE NOW! Looking at some of the glossy, shiny and happy junk mail that NeXT keeps sending me, to let me know its doing JUST FINE!(tm), I find myself lulled into a happy, idiotic stupor and am nearly certain that NeXT really can do things and deliver what it promises without a fire lit under its ass. Although, I must surely admit, I just haven't seen it happen yet I guess, since as all the mail I've received has been mixed in content, but very straightforward in pointing out that this "new" OS I'm trying to use, was WRITTEN ON the machine I'm trying to use it with (a Dell DGX), and so NeXT has had roughly 2+ years to write a f--king serial port driver for this piece of junk. "Woops, heh heh, who would have thought someone would want to use a modem or a printer? Gosh Steve, back to the drawing board, and lets rip out the disk drives while we're at it" * ANY DECENT Modem use ....... WHEN, where are the drivers? PS: To the "helpful" people who suggest running the serial port at 9600 until the "new drivers that work" come out somewhere over the rainbow. Nice thought, except, it doesn't work either. ANY use of the serial ports at ANY speed crashes the machine. (Ok, so being honest I DIDN'T try 300 or 1200 baud ;-)
From: garyc@eecs.nwu.edu (Gary I. Chang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: E-Mail address for NeXTWorld Date: 19 Jul 1993 03:34:27 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL USA Message-ID: <22d4o3$fhe@news.acns.nwu.edu> Hi, I need to post a change of my address to the NeXTWorld Subscription. Does anybody know their E-mail address XXX.nextworld.com so that I can send my request over the E-Mail instead of U.S. Mail? Thanks -- +----------------+ | Gary I. Chang | +----------------+ Northwestern Univ. E-Mail: garyc@eecs.nwu.edu (NeXT-Mail O.K.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: mike@media-lab.mit.edu (Michael Hawley) Subject: No sounds? Message-ID: <1993Jul19.035826.12270@news.media.mit.edu> Sender: news@news.media.mit.edu (USENET News System) Organization: MIT Media Laboratory Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1993 03:58:26 GMT A friend's NeXT is acting up -- won't play any sounds. We have tried toggling the "mute" and adjusting the slider in Preferences to no avail. Any ideas?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: charles@oneworld.wa.com Subject: Re: NS/FIP can't see my CD_ROM Message-ID: <1993Jul19.042345.20133@oneworld.wa.com> Organization: OneWorld Enterprises/OneWorld Computing Resources References: <85792@cup.portal.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1993 04:23:45 GMT This is exactly my problem as well but on a ZEOS computer. I'm using an NEC interset CD Drive. A very standard one. Any ideas/workarounds would be most appreciated. Charles W. Cooper II |OneWorld Enterprises | (206)453-8766 |OneWorld Computing Resources | - space for rent - (206)453-7083 fax/data |203 Bellevue Way N.E. STE 314 | charles@oneworld.wa.com |Bellevue, WA 98004 USA |
From: kschulz@iva.k8.rt.bosch.de (Kay Schulz K8/IVA Tel. ++49-7121-35-1341) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Tape driver behaviour in NS/I :-(( Message-ID: <139@boschrt.rt.bosch.de.bosch.de> Date: 19 Jul 93 05:45:46 GMT References: <22b5st$geg@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> Sender: news@rt.bosch.de.bosch.de Organization: Robert Bosch GmbH., Reutlingen, Germany. >- I cannot read any tape written from a different Unix (e.g. Linux, > Sun OS, ISC, ...) >- If the NS/I tape driver gets his hands on a tape that was ever > written from a different OS, he refuses to write on that tape > at all! No read, no write, no go :-(( > >All I get is "I/O error". >I do not want to buy new tapes just for this **** NS/I. >At least, NS/I can read its own backup tape. Wow... > >Any comments on this? >Help appreciated! I had exactly the same experiences --- /********************************************************************/ /* Kay Schulz, Rheinstr. 24, 72768 Reutlingen, Germany */ /* 07121 / 60 19 61 privat */ /* 07121 / 35-1341 geschaeftlich */ /* */ /* kschulz@iva.k8.rt.bosch.de */ /* */ /* Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent. */ /* -- Salvor Hardin */ /* */ /********************************************************************/
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago, academic Computer Center Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1993 01:01:34 CDT From: <U54876@uicvm.uic.edu> Message-ID: <93200.010134U54876@uicvm.uic.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Intel GX and Pentium Ready Systems For Sale References: <1993Jul16.223144.17582@ennews.eas.asu.edu> In article <1993Jul16.223144.17582@ennews.eas.asu.edu>, root@iienext1.eas.asu.edu (Operator) says: > >1) GX Prof Hires > 16 MB RAM, 340 MB Hard Drive > Floppy, 2MB VRAM, SCSI Built-in > 17" Mag Monitor > Keyboard and Mouse >Price = $4,685.00 > >2) GX Prof Hires > 16 MB RAM, 540 MB Hard Drive > Floppy, 2MB VRAM, SCSI Built-in > 17" Mag Monitor > Keyboard and Mouse >Price = $5,520.00 >3) GX Prof Hires > 32MB RAM, 340 MB Hard Drive > Floppy, 2MB VRAM, SCSI Built-in > 17" Mag Monitor > Keyboard and Mouse >Price = $5,755.00 >4)Pentium Systems > Model LX and MX 64-bit Architecture > Now shipping with DX50 (Upgradable to Pentium) > 16MB RAM to 32MB RAM > 17" Mag Monitor > Keyboard Mouse >Price = $7,500.00 to $12,500.00 > >Buy now while prices are low..... These prices aren't _that_ low. You can get better deals on the Intels from Kris Magnusson at Alpine Computing/MicroAge in Salt Lake City. He's really easy to work with and he'll give you a lot more disk space for comparable $$. Just a satisfied customer! -tom nawara nirvana@boss.math.uic.edu
From: david@postman.gr.osf.org (David George) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Tape driver behaviour in NS/I :-(( Date: 19 Jul 1993 09:41:46 GMT Organization: OSF RI Grenoble Distribution: world Message-ID: <22dq8q$p1g@paperboy.osf.org> References: <22b5st$geg@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> <CADBxv.K8p@cobra.cs.unm.edu> Keywords: Eminent: conspicuous; Imminent: likely to occur at any moment! In article <CADBxv.K8p@cobra.cs.unm.edu>, ctm@ardi.com writes: |> In article <22b5st$geg@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> zryx0376@awssg6.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel (Hiwi bei R.Rabenseifner)) writes: |> >Hi NeXTers, |> > |> >I got a brand new Sankyo CP 525 QIC-Streamer (up to 520 MB) for my |> >NS/Intel box. I made my first backup on a brand new cartrdige, |> >everything went fine. |> >But... |> > |> >- I cannot read any tape written from a different Unix (e.g. Linux, |> > Sun OS, ISC, ...) |> > |> >All I get is "I/O error". |> > |> >Any comments on this? |> |> I have a QIC-something tape drive hooked up to a NeXTstation and after |> everytime I reboot, I run the following program if I want to use the |> tapedrive: You should put programs like this into /usr/local/bin and then invoke them from /etc/rc.local. I do this for 'setmtd' on the Moto hardware, which if I remember correctly, sets my Wangtek tapedrive to be a block rather than a character device (SCSI bus). David.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: Zacharias J. Beckman <zac@dolphin.com> Subject: Re: No sounds? Message-ID: <1993Jul19.074920.381@dolphin.com> Sender: zac@dolphin.com Organization: Dolphin Technologies Inc. References: <1993Jul19.035826.12270@news.media.mit.edu> Distribution: usa Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1993 07:49:20 GMT Michael Hawley writes > A friend's NeXT is acting up -- won't play any sounds. > We have tried toggling the "mute" and adjusting the > slider in Preferences to no avail. Any ideas? Have you installed any software that makes use of the DSP lately? For instance, TTYDSP is a product that can "grab" the DSP to handle processing of the communication lines--effectively limiting a NeXT's sound playing capabilities. Just a thought... -- Zacharias J. Beckman - Dolphin Technologies Inc. - zac@dolphin.com - NeXTMAIL! To be "matter of fact" about the world is to blunder into fantasy.... and dull fantasy at that, as the real world is strange and wonderful. --- R. A. Heinlen Those opinions I express herein are my own, I'm fairly sure. --- Z. J. Beckman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: kgnome@cs.concordia.ca (S. Matis, 13th Generation) Subject: Re: * * * RightBrain Sale: 50% off through July (RTF) * * * Message-ID: <CAF0CG.CCE@newsflash.concordia.ca> Sender: usenet@newsflash.concordia.ca (USENET News System) Organization: Wolfnet References: <1262@rtbrain.rightbrain.com> <1993Jul16.153055.404@Happy-Man.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1993 14:02:39 GMT In article <1993Jul16.153055.404@Happy-Man.com> Irving_Wolfe@Happy-Man.com writes: >I've had PasteUp for a while now. In my opinion, anyone who has a >use for this sort of application and doesn't take advantage of the >50% discount is making a real mistake. It's one of the nicest, >most polished products I've seen for the NeXT. Ditto. Plus the use of the markup codes allowed me to create nearlly unattended Text-to-Layout expansion. Neat ... when you are going to receive submissions from folks that only use terminals and such. Plus ... being able to place .ps files into the dopcument is a boon I discovered only from using. >-- > Irving_Wolfe@Happy-Man.com 206/463-9399 x101 fax 206/463-9255 > Happy Man Corp. 4410 SW Pt. Robinson Rd., Vashon, WA 98070-7399 > We publish SOLID VALUE for the intelligent investor. NextMail OK >Info. packet free. Send POSTAL address: Solid-Value@Happy-Man.com S.I. Matis
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: mzeller@gwdu03.gwdg.de (Meinrad Zeller) Subject: Re: making gzip Message-ID: <YKIFB0BR@gwdu03.gwdg.de> Organization: GWDG, Goettingen References: <1993Jul15.140613.24751@sunova.ssc.gov> Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1993 14:20:56 GMT Ed Faught (faught@berserk.ssc.gov) wrote: : In article <1993Jul14.175919.265@sunova.ssc.gov> faught@berserk.ssc.gov (Ed : Faught) writes: : Many of the people replying to the original post wanted to know more, so here's : what happens: [stuff deleted] : gzip.c:149: sys/file.h: No such file or directory : *** Exit 1 : Stop. I'm not sitting at my NeXT in the moment, but thats really a very simple one - just replace in gzip.c the <sys/file.h> by <bsd/sys/file.h> or whatever the correct path for file.h is (or was it ansi/sys ???) To find out start Librarian and search for file.h in the Headerfiles Selection. Or do a "find /usr/include -name file.h -print" or just look in the browser - if I'd sit at my machine I'd tell you the right place but I'm sure you'll find it. Meinrad -- Meinrad Zeller Foehrenweg 1 D-37077 Goettingen Tel.: +49-551-300095
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: hac@nexus.inesc.pt (Hugo Andrade Cartaxeiro) Subject: mh NeXT mailer : does it exist ? Message-ID: <HAC.93Jul19144514@nexus.inesc.pt> Sender: usenet@inesc.pt Organization: INESC (Inst. Eng. Sistemas e Computadores) -LISBOA -PORTUGAL Distribution: comp Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1993 13:45:14 GMT Hi NeXT'ers, Is there a mh mail reader for NeXT ? tks in adv, -- Hugo Andrade Cartaxeiro @ INESC [Inst. Eng. Sistemas e Computadores] CCAE [Centro de Comunicacoes em Ambientes Empresariais] Avenida Duque d'Avila 23, 1000 Lisboa, -PORTUGAL. Phone.: +351 1 3100070 Fax.: +351 1 3100008 e-mail: hac@inesc.pt
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: tgall@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Tom Gall) Subject: Re: NS/FIP can't see my CD_ROM Sender: news@rchland.ibm.com Message-ID: <1993Jul19.135915.15872@rchland.ibm.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1993 13:59:15 GMT Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM References: <85792@cup.portal.com> Organization: IBM Rochester In article <85792@cup.portal.com>, Lee_Robert_Willis@cup.portal.com writes: |> |> I'm trying to install on a DELL 466M machine. I have an external |> CD-ROM drive plugged in as SCSI Id 0, which works fine under DOS, |> but the NS install program can't seem to see it (message "No |> CD-ROM drive found") Yup, seen this problem before, first thing, check SCSI termination. Is your CD-ROM terminated? (It should be) |> |> I also seem to be getting some Objective-C runtime error messages |> from the install program (e.g. "configureDriver: Coulnd't find |> class named SMC16") |> |> The following are all the messages (that hadn't already scrolled |> off the screen) I got while trying to install: |> |> Resetting SCSI bus |> Registering: hc0 |> IDE drive 0 using MultiSector Mode |> Registering: hd0 |> Registering: hd0a |> hd0: no valid disk label |> hd0: Device Block Size: 512 bytes |> hd0: Device Capacity: 432 Mb |> Registering fc0: |> Registering fd0: |> Registering fd0a: |> fd0: Device Block Size: 512 bytes |> fd0: Device Capacity; 1440 Kb |> fd0: Disk Label: Install_3.1 |> class `SMC16' not linked into application |> configureDriver: Coulnd't find class named SMC16 |> class `EtherExpress16' not linked into application |> configureDriver: Couldn't find class named EtherExpress16 |> Registering: VGADisplay0 |> Registering: event0 |> Registering: kmDevice0 |> No CD-ROM drive found: |> |> use sd%d, hd%d, or fd%d |> |> root device? |> |> Anybody seen these messages before, or know what to do about |> them? |> Well by the looks of it, you are very close to getting this thing to install. If like I mentioned above, SCSI termination isn't the problem, time to go chasing after the IRQ #'s. You're most likely your SCSI card isn't set up quite right. What are you using for a SCSI card? If you have an Adaptec card, I can help you. |> Thanks, |> Lee Lee_Robert_Willis@cup.portal.com -- tgall@rchvmw2.vnet.ibm.com (work -- NeXTMail NOT ok) _________________________________________________________________________ |o|Tom Gall "Where's the ka-boom? There was supposed |o| |o|Dept 45 N to be an earth shattering ka-boom!" |o| |o|Performance Tools III -- Marvin Martian ____ |o| |o|006-2 / B209 /\___\ |o| |o|IBM Rochester 3-4558 #include<std.disclaimer.h> \/___/ |o|
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: bruce@TotSysSoft.com (Bruce Gingery) Subject: Re: NewsGrazer and "From: " line problems Message-ID: <1993Jul19.114443.383@ToTSySSoft.com> Sender: news@ToTSySSoft.com Organization: Total System Software References: <9307181546.AA00516@gerilla.tigger.rsmas.miami.edu> Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1993 11:44:43 GMT In article <9307181546.AA00516@gerilla.tigger.rsmas.miami.edu> mgilula@gerilla.tigger.rsmas.miami.edu (Marshall Gilula) writes: -> ATTENTION: my header may be a bit FUBAR,... [snip] -> I went into my NewsGrazer app and found under -> Preferences, Post, that in the "From" window -> I have "gerilla.gerilla!mgilula(Marshall Gilula)" -> and that I am unable to remove this from the window -> by any means I know about. [snip] Open a terminal under the login-id used while reading news with NewsGrazer... on the version I'm using ( a few versions back :-) all it would take is... (all in one unbroken command...) dwrite NewsGrazer NewsGrazerFrom "mgilula@tigger.rsmas.miami.edu (Marshall F. Gilula, M.D)" Bruce Gingery bruce@TotSysSoft.com Total System Software -- the makers of DFax
From: dpp@athena.com (David Pollak) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Lightening Strikes Athena Design Date: 19 Jul 1993 15:24:24 GMT Organization: Athena Design, Inc. Message-ID: <22eeb8$mvi@hermes.athena.com> Howdy, The chances of being struck by lightening are better than winning the lottery. Athena Design was struck by lightening. It toasted our phone system, our fax machine, our 10 Base T hubs, and our NetInfo/File server. We recovered everything except the motherboard in the NetInfo/File server (a 25Mhz '040 Cube) is flaky. We are looking for an '040 motherboard with no RAM, but will settle for an '040 cube. Anybody have something to sell? Thanks. David
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: Bill Roth <roth_bill@tandem.com> Subject: WANTED: 4 Meg 30-pin 100ns SIMMS Message-ID: <CAF4qp.HnH@tandem.com> Sender: news@tandem.com Organization: Tandem Computers Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1993 15:37:35 GMT Hi, I'm in the market for 4 Meg 30-pin 100ns SIMMs. If you have any your willing to part with let me know. Leave a message at 408-285-5412 or e-mail me. Bill Roth ==================================================== Bill Roth, Tandem Computers, roth_bill@tandem.com Cupertino, CA 95014
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: kaya@trystero.com (Kaya Bekiroglu) Subject: Re: NeXT Shirts Message-ID: <CA8K69.3os@trystero.com> Keywords: NeXT Organization: The Trystero System (617) 625-7155 v.32/v.42bis References: <1269@rtbrain.rightbrain.com> <222cp2$rc@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu> Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1993 02:27:43 GMT In article <222cp2$rc@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu> catapmsd@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Matt Stephen DeBergalis) writes: >In article <1269@rtbrain.rightbrain.com> glenn@rightbrain.com (Glenn Reid) >writes: > >> If you mean the shirts with "NeXT" on them in Futura Condensed Extra >Bold >> with the "N" and "T" in gray (leaving the "eX" standing out in black), >> the way cool "eX NeXT" T-shirts, the answer is that we designed them, >and >> we sell them for only $15. Call us at the number below to get one >> in either L or XL. >> > >Well, I was actually referring to the white T-Shirt with the classic black >NeXT logo on the front. I guess they're not quite as funky. > >-matt debergalis I have heard that the Company Store (listed in the FAQ) sells items like that, along with NeXT turtlenecks, sweatshirts, mugs, and pencils. Now about the _other_ T-shirt - what about the funky _The_Object_is_the_ Advantage_ shirts with the building block logo? Anyone? -- kaya bekiroglu >|< "Help! I'm trapped in a computer factory!" kaya@trystero.com <|> "Then hit the 'escape' key, you fool!"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: botma@cs.utwente.nl (Bart Botma) Subject: Re: NS/FIP can't see my CD_ROM Message-ID: <1993Jul19.153927.15316@cs.utwente.nl> Sender: usenet@cs.utwente.nl Organization: University of Twente, Dept. of Computer Science References: <1993Jul19.042345.20133@oneworld.wa.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1993 15:39:27 GMT Mine neither (EISA VLB/ATI VLB/3401B/DPT). Unfortunately, my unit was damaged by the package transport service and upon return at the supplier (which has to file suit) they found out that the cd drive was defective. So, now I don't know whether it was brooken in the first place (and the dpt controller couldn't find it), or some settings were wrong. Since more people have shared this agony this fault can not only be hardware related. Bart -- ___/T\_______ Bart Botma, botma@cs.utwente.nl, University of Twente ,--_ |___\I/ _ __| Department of Computer Science, Tele-Informatics & /)_( ) | | O / \ (_ | Open Systems Group, P.O.Box 217, NL-7500 AE, Enschede (___ / |_|__S_\_/___)| The Netherlands,phone:+31-53-893755,fax:+31-53-333815 =/ \)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: ntomczak@vega.math.ualberta.ca (N Tomczak-Jaegermann) Subject: Re: making gzip Message-ID: <ntomczak.743039733@vega> Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada References: <1993Jul15.140613.24751@sunova.ssc.gov> <YKIFB0BR@gwdu03.gwdg.de> Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1993 23:55:33 GMT mzeller@gwdu03.gwdg.de (Meinrad Zeller) writes: >I'm not sitting at my NeXT in the moment, but thats really a very >simple one - just replace in gzip.c the <sys/file.h> by <bsd/sys/file.h> Arrgh!!!! Don't do that! The reason why system files are refered to by <sys/file.h>, and not by "/usr/include/bsd/sys/file.h", is that a properly configured compiler should take care about internal organization of system headers. Theoretically their layout should not be of any concern to you, unless you are installing a new compiler (this is not always attainable ideal :-)). If you want to see what your compiler is trying to include and why try to run a file with a contents like this: #include <sys/file.h> with 'cc -E -v <other flags>' redirecting output somewhere where it could be checked later. There is likely something screwy with your compilation flags, or file you want is nor really <sys/file.h> but <file.h> ("file" above is used a generic name). Michal Jaegermann ntomczak@vega.math.ualberta.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: mshaler@tdocad.sps.mot.com (Michael Shaler) Subject: Re: Canon hardware deal/NS on PPC References: <229hm1$858@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1993 01:38:07 GMT Organization: Nippon Motorola Ltd., Tokyo, Japan Sender: news@tkymail.sps.mot.com Message-ID: <1993Jul19.013807.2831@tkymail.sps.mot.com> Denis LaFont writes You dreamed about Canon ? Sure it was a good thing... I know the japanese market a little, and the asian too. Canon can have a killer workstation, and take the lead in Japan... Then you would know that Fujitsu/Sun are the big fish in this (as yet) still small pond. You also know that Canon and Canon Hanbai also have some fundamental "future direction" questions to answer for themselves. Moving from black to white hardware is much easier on other shores than here. But Japanese are Japanese, and nothing will change... Not true. It's a question of perspective and timing. It is well- known here that things MUST change. At the low end of the WS market, Compaq and Dell are moving Pentium systems here well ahead of the major domestic PC manufacturers, and the price points are significant, but the market volume is small, and will remain so, for quite some time. At the high end, NEC's MIPS-based WS rollout is hard to resist for _domestic_ brand-name conscious corporate buyers, and Fujitsu's virtual exit from the mainframe market (they stopped buying IBM's OS) probably portends an enhanced emphasis on the SPARC WS market. Taken together, these elements make for a tight market entry that will take a lot more resources than Canon wants to put in place right now. That could change, but probably not at the speed we might hope for. Of course, don't forget what Will Durant once wrote: "Civilization exists by geological consent and is subject to change without notice." --- Michael Shaler Tokyo Design Center Nippon Motorola Ltd. +813 3280 8245 voice +813 3440 0033 fax mshaler@tdocad.sps.mot.com [NeXTmail]t the market volume is small, and will remain so, for quite some time. At the high end, NEC's MIPS-based WS rollout is hard to resist for _domestic_ brand-name conscious
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: wisdom@netcom.com (Scott Wisdom) Subject: Re: Intel GX Machines for NeXTStep 486 Message-ID: <wisdomCAF91D.GIB@netcom.com> Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) References: <1993Jul15.194450.2412@qb.rhein-main.de> <226p5o$orf@disuns2.epfl.ch> <1993Jul16.162102.5050@resonex.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1993 17:10:24 GMT In article <1993Jul16.162102.5050@resonex.com> zenon@resonex.com (Zenon Fortuna) writes: >The Indy system is not SO-LOW-COST as it looks at the first glance. >The system priced <$5000 does not include hard disk and has only low resolution >monitor. In addition (I *THINK*) the 24bit color is virtual, ala the original indigo. What you get on screen is an x bit (where x may = 8 bit) dithered version of the actual 24 bit image. In addition, I'm pretty sure there is no graphics hardware for fast 3D graphics. I'm not saying that this isn't a great system (it blows the socks off a NeXTStation). First of all, for more $$ you can get 24 bit color, and for even more $$ you can probably expand it to various levels of hardware assisted 3D graphics performance (though even the in-software graphics pipeline is WAY WAY faster than anyhting you can get out of an '040 or 486, and probably significantly better than anything you can get out of current Pentium systems). The thing to remember is that getting the base system above is like buying a luxury car, just to find out that the seats are plastic, the engine is a four-banger, and the wheels are optional equipment. Yes, you can buy the extras to make it a NICE car, but it WILL cost you extra (but BOY, can you sure make it a NICE NICE car!). As far as a NeXTSTEP port, it would probably be MUCH easier than the 486/Pentium port, because there isn't a jillion different video cards, i/o cards, etc.. The bottleneck might be the vast multitude of graphics hardware which may be running on the system - if NeXTSTEP is to support the SGI graphics hardware through QucikRenderman. Does anyone know if there is some sort of standardized front end to the pipline for the different graphics engines (that NeXT could use)? -SW
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: tmurdoch@liberty.uc.wlu.edu (Tim Murdoch) Subject: webster weirdness! Message-ID: <1993Jul19.184106.16996@liberty.uc.wlu.edu> Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1993 18:41:06 GMT Organization: Washington & Lee University What do YOU get when you search on "neil" in Webster in NS3.0? -- Tim Murdoch Assistant Prof. of Math e-mail: murdoch@wlu.edu Washington and Lee Univ. phone: (703) 463-5045 Lexington VA 24450
From: glenn@rightbrain.com (Glenn Reid) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: * * * RightBrain Sale: 50% off through July (RTF) * * * Message-ID: <1273@rtbrain.rightbrain.com> Date: 19 Jul 93 18:40:56 GMT References: <93198.002523U54876@uicvm.uic.edu> Sender: glenn@rightbrain.com U54876@uicvm.uic.edu writes > In article <1993Jul16.153055.404@Happy-Man.com>, irving@Happy-Man.com > (Irving_Wolfe) says: > > > >I've had PasteUp for a while now. In my opinion, anyone who has a > >use for this sort of application and doesn't take advantage of the > >50% discount is making a real mistake. It's one of the nicest, > >most polished products I've seen for the NeXT. > >-- > > Irving_Wolfe@Happy-Man.com 206/463-9399 x101 fax 206/463-9255 > > I'm really confused. I am dying to purchase a page layout app for my machine, > this deal is terrific, but I'm getting conflicting reports about PasteUp. > Everyone can read the above glowing praise for PU (I probably shouldn't use > that abbreviation), but I've heard strong negative comments also. The one > that stands out in particular in my recollection is the statement that: > "PasteUp is useless for anything more than 1 page layouts." This comment was > backed by the fact that PasteUp crashed every time my friend attempted to > change something in a two (or more) page layout and then save it. When he > attempted to reopen the document, it was a garbage file. > I am not trying to start inciteful rumors against PasteUp or RightBrain - I > really like their products and the presence of their company in the NeXT > universe. I also _really_ want to buy PasteUp. However, even the great prices > can't justify purchasing a product that won't do what it says it should do. > I'll stick with Virtuoso for 1-page layouts if this is the case. (Now there's > a hot/exciting/polished product - and in version 1.0 no less!) I'd like to address your concerns. First, it is certainly true that PasteUp has had a few problems, some crasher bugs, and some, well, bugs. It is a very complex piece of code, and there have been some bugs in it. We're not happy about that, but it seems to be the norm for page layout apps (anybody remember Quark and PageMaker early releases? :-). The main thing that I'd like to emphasize is that we are working very hard and continuously to address any problems that people find in the product, and we maintain it rigorously. We have been known to do maintenance releases for a single bug for some customers. PasteUp 2.0 is a very solid product, and is getting better every day. We recently found a pathological "recompute" situation that caused text editing to be slow; fixing it (by deleting some code!) caused about a 5x speedup for some operations. Second is the "long document" issue. PasteUp has no problems with what I would call "medium-sized" documents, around 30-50 pages. If you get to several hundred pages, it drags quite noticeably. But our customers routinely prepare 30-50 page documents, manuals, brochures, and other many-page documents with no problems. Since we don't currently support automatic generation of tables of contents, indices, or cross references, it's a bit more work to produce something like a manual, but people are doing it, and PasteUp is definitely up to the task. Our 2.0 version is significantly better than the 1.1 version, and we've already fixed some minor things and phased in the performance improvements that I just mentioned into the "Edit 42" maintenance release, which we're sending to new customers as the current version. In response to the concerns you've raised, I've put up a copy of PasteUp on the "sonata.cc.purdue.edu" FTP server in the pub/next/submissions directory. The file name is "PasteUp.tar.Z" and it's binary. The demo will run for 10 minutes, or you can call or Email us for a temporary key that will enable it for a bit longer if you want to put it through its paces. This demo copy is Motorola only; the fat version is quite a bit bigger and inconvenient for us to upload. To paraphrase Ford, "Have you driven PasteUp lately?" Give it a try. I think you'll like it. And if you want to take advantage of our 50% off sale, hurry, because it's only through the end of the month. -- Glenn Reid NeXTmail: glenn@rightbrain.com RightBrain Software 415-326-2974 (NeXTfax 326-2977) Palo Alto, California Electronic Frontier Foundation, member #054
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: fugue!william (William Wei) Subject: testing software Message-ID: <1993Jul19.200425.2570@imagine.com> Sender: william@imagine.com Organization: Imagine Multimedia, Inc., Ann Arbor, MI, USA Distribution: usa Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1993 20:04:25 GMT Does anyone know any testing software that allow me to do progression tests as batch jobs? It has to handle NEXTSTEP apps' GUI EVENT. I'm looking for all kinds of testing solutions for NEXTSTEP apps. Thanks William -- +-----------------------------------------------------------------+ |William Wei Imagine Multimedia | | | |Ann Arbor, Michigan william@imagine.com |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: abell@netcom.com (Steven T. Abell) Subject: Re: webster weirdness! Message-ID: <abellCAFFwt.921@netcom.com> Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest) References: <1993Jul19.184106.16996@liberty.uc.wlu.edu> Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1993 19:38:52 GMT tmurdoch@liberty.uc.wlu.edu (Tim Murdoch) writes: >What do YOU get when you search on "neil" in Webster in NS3.0? newyorkcofenvironmentalsciencea Why? Isn't that what you expected? Steve abell@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: lloyd@world.std.com (Chris Lloyd) Subject: Better Grays out of the NLP Message-ID: <CAFJp2.AKz@world.std.com> Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1993 21:00:36 GMT Has anyone come up with a way to get nicer looking grayscales out of the NeXT Laser Printer? The Default ones look like crud, the dots in the half-tone patterns are huge-ola. shrug, -- :: Christopher Lloyd :: Yrrid Incorporated :: lloyd@world.std.com :: :: LOUDER...LOUDER... ::
From: sanchezp@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu (Paul J. Sanchez) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: webster weirdness! Message-ID: <SANCHEZP.93Jul19141454@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu> Date: 19 Jul 93 21:14:54 GMT References: <1993Jul19.184106.16996@liberty.uc.wlu.edu> Organization: University of Arizona UNIX Users Group In-reply-to: tmurdoch@liberty.uc.wlu.edu's message of 19 Jul 93 18:41:06 GMT In article <1993Jul19.184106.16996@liberty.uc.wlu.edu> tmurdoch@liberty.uc.wlu.edu (Tim Murdoch) writes: What do YOU get when you search on "neil" in Webster in NS3.0? -- Tim Murdoch In NS3.1 I get... Correction? newyorkcofenvironmentalsciencea That's pretty weird, all right. --paul
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: scwg0600@ih-nxt01.cso.uiuc.edu (Steven C Weintz) Subject: SGI's new GUI Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1993 21:26:15 GMT Message-ID: <CA6BJs.93u@news.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <221f7r$s86@news.u.washington.edu> Sender: usenet@news.cso.uiuc.edu (Net Noise owner) Keywords: Silicon Graphics, GUI, NeXT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana > Crossposted from comp.sys.sgi.announce (And since cross-posted from sci.virtual-worlds) Looks like the SGI port of NeXTSTEP has sort of occurred... > SILICON GRAPHICS CREATES KEY TO INTERACTIVE MEDIA REVOLUTION WITH > INDIGO MAGIC USER ENVIRONMENT > > Next-Generation Interface Gives Users Easy Access To Power of ^^^^ > Interactive Digital Technologies > > MOUNTAIN VIEW, California (July 12, 1993) -- Silicon Graphics, Inc. > (NYSE: SGI) today introduced the Indigo Magic(tm) user environment, > the industry's most powerful and intuitive user interface that defines > how users will soon interact with home digital technologies. With > Indigo Magic, technical and non-technical users can not only manage > computer tasks more simply, but also easily manipulate everyday media, > such as speech, music, video and pictures. The environment surpasses > existing graphical user interfaces, combining the most extensive use of > icons with full access to the digital media power of Silicon > Graphics(r) systems, creating the first Media User Interface. > > The Indigo Magic user environment will first be available with > Indy(tm), Silicon Graphics' new desktop computer. Bundled with Indigo > Magic and its own digital color video camera and starting at $4995, > Indy packs more interactive media, visual computing and workgroup > collaboration capabilities into a PC-priced system than any other > computer in history. The combination of Indy and the new Indigo Magic > interface gives users and developers access to technologies that will > soon become standard for both professional and home use. > > Indigo Magic incorporates point-and-click and drag-and-drop actions, as > well as extensive icons that represent files, networked computers, > peripherals -- even people on the network. These icons actively > monitor whatever they represent, and change their appearance > accordingly. For example, the CD player icon will change depending on > the type of media inserted -- such as software, audio or PhotoCD(tm) - > and when double clicked, will launch the appropriate application. > > Breakthrough communication capabilities in the Indigo Magic user > environment are provided through an integrated suite of digital media > editors, viewers and players. These tools provide simple capture and > editing facilities for audio, video, images, and 2D and 3D graphics. > The Indigo Magic Showcase(tm) presentation package enables users at any > skill level to compose on-line interactive documents and presentations > that incorporate these media types. The media mailfeature provides > electronic distribution of messages with integrated digital media. > > A key component of the new interface is the Indigo Magic "desk", which > allows users to build multiple desktop environments, organized by task > and customized to the user's specific workstyle. This capability lets > users group task-related files and applications such as product design > or financial analysis onto different desktops that can be stowed and > retrieved with the click of a mouse button. Even when iconified, desks > can be viewed and customized. Additional features of the new interface > are point-and-click software installation, and printing that involves > merely dragging and dropping a file onto the printer icon. > > Indigo Magic Insight,(tm) the on-line document and help system, > supports the integration of media and text with full-color graphics, > audio, and video. The document viewer provides on-demand informa-tion > from an expanding collection of end-user, administration and > programming manuals. > > The Indigo Magic user environment's integrated capabilities provide > users with: > o Organizational tools, such as customized "desks" > o Simplified visual system management, including software > installation, archival and restore > o Enterprise-wide search and find capabilities to locate > people, machines,devices and files anywhere on the network > o Access to peripherals from the desktop, such as "drag > and drop" printing > o Macintosh(r) and PC connectivity for read and write of > Mac(tm) or PC formatted floppy disks > o Digital media creation, editing and communication. > > Silicon Graphics also provides an extensive set of software development > tools that allow applications developers to integrate their software > into the Indigo Magic environment. The Indigo Magic user environment > will ship initially in the third quarter of 1993 on the Indy system, > and will be bundled on Silicon Graphics' full line of RISC-based > workstations in the first quarter of 1994. > > - > > Silicon Graphics, IRIS and the Silicon Graphics logo are registered > trademarks, and Indy, Indigo, Indigo Magic, Insight and Showcase are > trademarks, of Silicon Graphics, Inc. MIPS is a registered trademark of > MIPS Technologies, Inc. UNIX is a registered trademark of UNIX Systems > Laboratories, Inc. Macintosh and Mac are trademarks of Apple Computer > Corp. PhotoCD is a trademark of Eastman Kodak Company. Indigo Magic > media mail is based on Z-Mail(tm), a product of Z-Code Inc. > > > Marc Mengel > mengel@fnal.fnal.gov > > > [MODERATOR'S NOTE: Commercial postings are offered on sci.virtual- > worlds as a public service. Their appearance here does not > necessarily indicate endorsement by the moderators or by the USENET or > its administrators. -- Bob Jacobson]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: eugene@nshade.uah.ualberta.ca (Eugene Mah) Subject: Re: webster weirdness! Message-ID: <1993Jul19.215712.24353@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada References: <1993Jul19.184106.16996@liberty.uc.wlu.edu> Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1993 21:57:12 GMT In article <1993Jul19.184106.16996@liberty.uc.wlu.edu> tmurdoch@liberty.uc.wlu.edu (Tim Murdoch) writes: > > What do YOU get when you search on "neil" in Webster in NS3.0? > -- > Tim Murdoch > Assistant Prof. of Math e-mail: murdoch@wlu.edu > Washington and Lee Univ. phone: (703) 463-5045 > Lexington VA 24450 Here's what I get... Correction? newyorkcofenvironmentalsciencea ?? huh ?? -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Eugene Mah ----> eugene@uaneuro.uah.ualberta.ca (NeXT-Mail) grad student/sys admin "For I am a Bear of Very Department of Radiology Little Brain, and University of Alberta Hospitals long words bother me." Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Winnie the Pooh
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: scwg0600@ih-nxt01.cso.uiuc.edu (Steven C Weintz) Subject: Thoughts on "Indy" (was Re: Intel GX Machines for NeXTStep 486) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1993 19:22:38 GMT Message-ID: <CAFF5r.8I6@news.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <wisdomCAF91D.GIB@netcom.com> Sender: usenet@news.cso.uiuc.edu (Net Noise owner) Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana In article <wisdomCAF91D.GIB@netcom.com> wisdom@netcom.com (Scott Wisdom) writes: > In article <1993Jul16.162102.5050@resonex.com> zenon@resonex.com (Zenon Fortuna) writes: > >The Indy system is not SO-LOW-COST as it looks at the first glance. > >The system priced <$5000 does not include hard disk and has only low resolution > >monitor. > > In addition (I *THINK*) the 24bit color is virtual, ala the original indigo. > What you get on screen is an x bit (where x may = 8 bit) dithered version of > the actual 24 bit image. In addition, I'm pretty sure there is no graphics > hardware for fast 3D graphics. Yes, it's dithered 8-bit, and yes, there's no hardware Z-buffer (according to the traffic in c.s.sgi.hardware and .misc). I'm getting promo lit, I'll post summaries when I get 'em. [some munchage for brevity] > The thing to remember is that getting the base system above is like buying > a luxury car, just to find out that the seats are plastic, the engine is a > four-banger, and the wheels are optional equipment. Yes, you can buy the extras > to make it a NICE car, but it WILL cost you extra (but BOY, can you sure make > it a NICE NICE car!). This is indeed true, and Indy is supposed to be binary-compatible with the entire SGI line, right on up to the Onyx rockets; so you can develop things and later run them on some maximum hardware. HOWEVER... 1) there was an estimate in one of the SGI newsgroups within the last few days for a "usable" Indy system: (bear with me, I'm quoting from memory) base Indy system + 24-bit color, 32MB RAM, 1.2GB HD, 19" monitor = $11,500. Much less than what NeXTdimensions went for new, I think, but not cheap, either. I don't know if the "Indy Video" board is included in that estimate (no video out?). 2) If you think NeXTSTEP apps are costly, try pricing GL apps. Again, lots of nifty tools are bundled, and this is great (I want to try the games on the free demo CD!!!), and there's apparently lots of PD apps and applets out there, but beyond that the costs balloon. (I'm not speaking from direct experience, but I was at the SGI Expo in San Jose in May, just before the NWE :-)). Some 3D graphics software retails in the <$10K range. 3) there are apparently yearly maintenance fees and software licenses to be considered as well: one figure mentioned was up to 10% of the purchase price! This suggests to me (and I'm willing to be convinced) that entering the SGI world is still prohibitively expensive for individuals, whereas the NeXT world is approachable - even the fabled NeXTdimensions can be had with some strain. Nevertheless, if you have the cash, a 100 MHz CPU is more better than a 33Mhz one! I certainly wouldn't turn one away if offered! > As far as a NeXTSTEP port, it would probably be MUCH easier than the 486/Pentium > port, because there isn't a jillion different video cards, i/o cards, etc.. The > bottleneck might be the vast multitude of graphics hardware which may be running > on the system - if NeXTSTEP is to support the SGI graphics hardware through > QucikRenderman. Does anyone know if there is some sort of standardized front > end to the pipline for the different graphics engines (that NeXT could use)? As I mentioned in one of my previous posts, SGI's new GUI sounds very NeXTSTEP-like. (Imitation as the sincerest form of flattery?) This might be a strong disincentive to port NeXTSTEP, especially since SGI claims that they will be adding the Indigo Magic environment to their entire line next year. All the above my $0.02 worth, as usual. > -SW Steve Weintz University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (which I don't speak for) NeXTMail: scwg0600@sumter.cso.uiuc.edu
From: glenn@rightbrain.com (Glenn Reid) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: * * * RightBrain Sale: 50% off through July (RTF) * * * Message-ID: <1274@rtbrain.rightbrain.com> Date: 19 Jul 93 21:59:55 GMT References: <1273@rtbrain.rightbrain.com> Sender: glenn@rightbrain.com Glenn Reid writes > In response to the concerns you've raised, I've put up a copy of PasteUp > on the "sonata.cc.purdue.edu" FTP server in the pub/next/submissions > directory. The file name is "PasteUp.tar.Z" and it's binary. Sorry to follow up to my own post. I can't seem to get the file uploaded successfully to sonata, so instead I've uploaded it to "cs.orst.edu". Sorry about the inconvenience. -- Glenn Reid NeXTmail: glenn@rightbrain.com RightBrain Software 415-326-2974 (NeXTfax 326-2977) Palo Alto, California Electronic Frontier Foundation, member #054
From: fischedj@ NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (David J. Fischer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: webster weirdness! Date: 19 Jul 1993 23:04:46 GMT Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology Message-ID: <22f9ae$aud@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu> References: <SANCHEZP.93Jul19141454@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu> In article <SANCHEZP.93Jul19141454@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu> sanchezp@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu (Paul J. Sanchez) writes: > In article <1993Jul19.184106.16996@liberty.uc.wlu.edu> > tmurdoch@liberty.uc.wlu.edu (Tim Murdoch) writes: > > What do YOU get when you search on "neil" in Webster in NS3.0? > -- > Tim Murdoch > I get the same thing on NS2.1 -- David J. Fischer : fischedj@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu "Nature is a place filled with gravity..." -- Newsweek
From: fischedj@ NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (David J. Fischer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: webster weirdness! Date: 19 Jul 1993 23:12:39 GMT Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology Message-ID: <22f9p7$b0f@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu> References: <22f9ae$aud@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu> In article <22f9ae$aud@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu> fischedj@ NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (David J. Fischer) writes: > In article <SANCHEZP.93Jul19141454@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu> > sanchezp@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu (Paul J. Sanchez) writes: > > In article <1993Jul19.184106.16996@liberty.uc.wlu.edu> > > tmurdoch@liberty.uc.wlu.edu (Tim Murdoch) writes: > > > > What do YOU get when you search on "neil" in Webster in NS3.0? > > -- > > Tim Murdoch > > > I get the same thing on NS2.1 > > -- > David J. Fischer : fischedj@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu > "Nature is a place filled with gravity..." -- Newsweek (Ooops, deleted too much from the previous message)... I mean, I get the: Correction? newyorkcofenvironmentalsciencea statement in Webster under NS2.1 also -- David J. Fischer : fischedj@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu "What's more important, the plays of Shakespeare or the quill he used to write them down? If he'd used a mission critical custom quill with built-in spell checker, would his plays have been any better? " -- Dave Griffiths (in response to a NeXT advocate on c.s.n.m)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: wave@pixar.com (Michael B. Johnson) Subject: Re: PhotoCD's & NeXT Message-ID: <1993Jul19.230844.12657@pixar.com> Sender: news@pixar.com (Usenet Newsmaster) Organization: Pixar -- Point Richmond, California References: <1993Jul16.144542.15494@wri.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1993 23:08:44 GMT In article <1993Jul16.144542.15494@wri.com> Jeff Adams writes: > I personally think PhotoAlbum.app left out one major feature which I > was really hoping they would add. > > Namely, the ability to crop a photo at a smaller size and then only load in the > cropped image when you switch to one of the larger photo sizes. > > You really need this if you want to look at parts of the largest image size > without having 30-40 Megs necessary to load the entire image. > Good point. Actually, a friend and I were just saying the other day that if you have enough memory, you can now build Deckard's photo viewer from Bladerunner... If PhotoAlbum.app doesn't do what you want, it's easy enough to use the code Hadmut wrote (that several people have worked on NeXT front ends for) to do what you want. Tests friends and I have done showed no difference (correcting for gamma) between images grabbed using Hadmut's code and images grabbed using PhotoAlbum.app (which uses "blessed" Kodak code). Just think, use Simon Says to control the app you wrote, and you *really* could make Deckard's photo viewer... -- --> Michael B. Johnson -- wave@media.mit.edu, wave@pixar.com --> MIT Media Lab -- Computer Graphics & Animation Group --> P*I*X*A*R -- IceMan Group (for the summer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: lettau@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Martin Lettau) Subject: NextStep on UltraStor 34F and Viper Message-ID: <1993Jul20.003559.25901@Princeton.EDU> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1993 00:35:59 GMT Hi folks, I intend to purchase a Micron EISA-VESA 486/66 machine. They ship it with a UltraStor 34F controller and a Diamond Viper card. UltraStor said that they are currently developing drivers for NextStep. Are there any drivers for the Viper? And can I run NextStep without specific drivers for the controller? How is your experience with the Viper? Are 16mb enough to run at reasonable speed? Does the academic version include TeX, C-compiler and Mathematica? Thank's for any input you might have. Since I want to purchase the machine very soon, I'd appreciate any fast replies. Martin Lettau ==================================================================== Department of Economics e-mail: lettau@phoenix.princeton.edu Princeton University phone : (609) 258-4806 Princeton, NJ 08544 fax : (609) 258-6419
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: dabbah@tron.bwi.wec.com (Albert Dabbah) Subject: Re: Help on Disk formmating in NeXT(black) Message-ID: <1993Jul20.040428.16241@tron.bwi.wec.com> Organization: Westinghouse Electric Corporation, Baltimore MD. References: <1993Jul19.012734.3833@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu> Distribution: usa Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1993 04:04:28 GMT In article <1993Jul19.012734.3833@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu> wkwong@lyapunov.eng.ohio-state.edu (Waihon Andrew Kwong) writes: > >Hi, > >I have just upgraded to NS3.1 and I have no long be able to initialize >Floppy. Is it a Bug? Is there any work around? I'm using a DIT external >floppy at sd2. > >Even more: >I also find that the MAC and DOS DISKs I put in becomes "OD" in my file >browser. If I lock the disk, I will even get a CD ICON! What a surprise! > >If you put in the DOS/MAC disk, DO you get a DISK ICON out? > >I will summarize if I can get enough information. > >Thanks, >Andy. I have the same problems, but with a TEAC SCSI floppy drive. I have been able to format DOS and MAC disks, but Next disk are a problem. A work around (?) is to use the disk utility as follows ... disk /dev/rsd1a # enter command and wait for panel to insert disk name: TEAC FC-1 JHF 11 disk type: removable_rw_scsi Disk utility disk> init # enter this command DESTROYS ALL EXISTING DISK DATA -- really initialize? y enter host name: endore enter disk label: testdisk device = /dev/rsd1a block size = 512 capacity = 1 MBytes Disk Format in progress... ***Format Complete*** writing disk label Boot block is "/usr/standalone/boot", ok? n Boot block: Boot block is "", ok? y Writing creating new filesystem on /dev/rsd1a /usr/etc/newfs -n -v /dev/rsd1a setting optimization for space with minfree less than 10 /etc/mkfs /dev/rsd1a 1392 9 2 8192 1024 16 0 5 2048 s Warning: 12 sector(s) in last cylinder unallocated /dev/rsd1a: 1392 sectors in 78 cylinders of 2 tracks, 9 sectors 1.4Mb in 5 cyl groups (16 c/g, 0.29Mb/g, 64 i/g) super-block backups (for fsck -b#) at: 16, 320, 592, 896, 1168, initialization complete disk> eject disk> quit that's it, but does it work?
From: isbell@cats.ucsc.edu (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Help on Disk formmating in NeXT(black) Date: 20 Jul 1993 05:27:40 GMT Organization: Cubic Solutions - NeXT software development and consulting Distribution: usa Message-ID: <22fvocINNf5b@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> References: <1993Jul19.012734.3833@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu> <1993Jul20.040428.16241@tron.bwi.wec.com> In article <1993Jul20.040428.16241@tron.bwi.wec.com> dabbah@tron.bwi.wec.com (Albert Dabbah) writes: > I have the same problems, but with a TEAC SCSI floppy drive. I have > >been able to format DOS and MAC disks, but Next disk are a problem. > >A work around (?) is to use the disk utility as follows ... > > [workaround deleted] > >that's it, but does it work? Yesss!! Thanks for the post. I erroneously reasoned that Workspace Manager used "disk", so I expected the same problems to occur if I had used "disk" from a shell command-line. -- Art Isbell Cubic Solutions NeXT Registered Developer NEXTSTEP software development and consulting NeXTmail: isbell@cats.UCSC.EDU Voice: (408)335-1154 USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: (408)335-2515
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) Subject: Re: making gzip Message-ID: <1993Jul20.084743.18989@csus.edu> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.programmer Sender: news@csus.edu Organization: San Francisco State University References: <1993Jul14.175919.265@sunova.ssc.gov> <22b52a$ok8@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1993 08:47:43 GMT In article <22b52a$ok8@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> zryx0376@awssg6.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel (Hiwi bei R.Rabenseifner)) writes: >Add a -D_POSIX_SOURCE. Bad advice! You should NEVER attempt to define _POSIX_SOURCE, __STRICT_BSD__, etc. yourself. These are set automatically when certain compiler options are used, and treating them as anything other than read- only will cause inconsistent (and incorrect) behavior. Followups to c.s.n.p. -=EPS=- ------- Unofficial fix for gzip-1.2.3 *** Makefile.in.orig Thu Jun 24 04:51:47 1993 --- Makefile.in *************** *** 174,179 **** --- 174,197 ---- $(MAKE) all OBJA=match.o DEFS=\ "-DASMV -DSTDC_HEADERS=1 -DHAVE_UNISTD_H=1 -DDIRENT=1" + # NeXT 2.x, 3.0, 3.1 thin + next: + $(MAKE) default ZCAT=gzcat CFLAGS="-O -bsd" \ + DEFS="-DASMV -DNO_STDLIB_H=1 -DNO_STRING_H -DNO_UTIME_H=1 -DSYSDIR=1 -DRETSIGTYPE=int" + + # NeXT 3.1 fat + next-fat: + $(MAKE) default ZCAT=gzcat OBJA=match-fat.o \ + CFLAGS="-O -bsd -fno-builtin -arch m68k -arch i386" \ + DEFS="-DASMV -DNO_STDLIB_H=1 -DNO_STRING_H -DNO_UTIME_H=1 -DSYSDIR=1 -DRETSIGTYPE=int" + + match-fat.o: match.S + cat $(srcdir)/match.S > _match.s + $(CC) -arch m68k -arch i386 -c _match.s + mv _match$O match-fat.o && touch @OBJA@ + rm -f _match.s + + #### End of specific targets section. #### install: installdirs installbin installman
Control: cancel <1993Jul20.012655.4667@leeweyr.sccsi.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: bill@leeweyr.sccsi.com (Bill Lee) Subject: cmsg cancel <1993Jul20.012655.4667@leeweyr.sccsi.com> Message-ID: <1993Jul20.012752.4724@leeweyr.sccsi.com> Sender: bill@leeweyr.sccsi.com (Bill Lee) Organization: Lee Aerie References: <1993Jul19.184106.16996@liberty.uc.wlu.edu> <1993Jul20.012655.4667@leeweyr.sccsi.com> Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1993 01:27:52 GMT <1993Jul20.012655.4667@leeweyr.sccsi.com> was cancelled from within trn.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: mark@cyantic.com (Mark T. Dornfeld) Subject: Re: webster weirdness! Organization: CYANTIC Systems Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1993 12:47:30 GMT Message-ID: <1993Jul20.124730.28995@cyantic.com> References: <1993Jul19.184106.16996@liberty.uc.wlu.edu> In article <1993Jul19.184106.16996@liberty.uc.wlu.edu> tmurdoch@liberty.uc.wlu.edu (Tim Murdoch) writes: > >What do YOU get when you search on "neil" in Webster in NS3.0? The answer is: newyorkcofenvironmentalsciencea Honest :-) -- Mark T. Dornfeld, CYANTIC Systems Voice: (416) 234-9048 101 Subway Crescent Suite 2103 Facsimile: (416) 234-0477 Etobicoke, Ontario, M9B 6K4 CANADA Email: mark@cyantic.com
From: dpp@athena.com (David Pollak) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: The Second Annual Mesa Party Date: 20 Jul 1993 14:14:21 GMT Organization: Athena Design, Inc. Message-ID: <22gujt$1k3@hermes.athena.com> Hello, On August 4, 1992, Athena Design released Mesa. In the year since its introduction, Athena Design has upgraded Mesa 5 times adding new features such as 3D graphs, a BASIC-like scripting language, Palletized spreadsheet and graph objects, SQL database access and manipulation, and more. Athena Design has shown its commitment to NEXTSTEP by shipping Mesa as the first available NS/Intel application. Mesa is now the best-selling spreadsheet for NEXTSTEP and it's time to kick back, and throw a party! On Wednesday, August 4, 1993, at 7pm, the Second Annual We Really Did It: Mesa Release Party will commence. It will be at the Athena Design offices at 17 Saint Mary's Court, Boston. Please come. Please bring friends. We will have food, beverages, and fun. Please celebrate with us. Please RSVP to party@athena.com or call 617.734.6372 (MESA). Thanks and we'll see you there! David Directions: T (Subway for non-Bostonians): Take the MBTA Green "C" line to the Saint Mary's Street stop. This is the first above-ground stop on the "C" line. Get off the T and walk across Beacon street. The first street on your right is Saint Mary's Street. Walk down Saint Mary's street until you get to the first alley on your left. Walk down the alley. 17 Saint Mary's Court is the second red door on the right. Car: Saint Mary's Street is on the Boston-Brookline border on the 1000 block of Beacon Street. Drive outbound from Kenmore Square. Cross over the Mass Pike. Find parking after the first set of lights after you cross the Mass Pike. Saint Mary's Street is the first right after this set of lights. See above directions.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: me@next45.wsi.physik.tu-muenchen.de(Matthias Rosenberger) Subject: Re: webster weirdness! Message-ID: <1993Jul20.143311.7348@news.lrz-muenchen.de> Sender: news@news.lrz-muenchen.de (Mr. News) Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany) References: <1993Jul20.124730.28995@cyantic.com> Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1993 14:33:11 GMT In article <1993Jul20.124730.28995@cyantic.com> mark@cyantic.com (Mark T. Dornfeld) writes: > In article <1993Jul19.184106.16996@liberty.uc.wlu.edu> tmurdoch@liberty.uc.wlu.edu (Tim Murdoch) writes: > > > >What do YOU get when you search on "neil" in Webster in NS3.0? > > The answer is: > > newyorkcofenvironmentalsciencea > > Honest :-) > -- Searching by full name, i get the same as posted above; but searching by prefix I get: Biographical Names: Neilon \'nee)l-sen\ William Allan 1869-1946 Am. (Scot -born) educ.; pres. Smith College (1917-39) %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Matthias Rosenberger, Walter Schottky Institut, TU Muenchen email: me@next45.wsi.physik.tu-muenchen.de > > newyorkcofenvironmentalsciencea > > Honest :-) > -- Searching by full name, i get the same as posted above; but searching by prefix I get: Biographical Names: Neilon \'nee)l-sen\ William Allan 1869-1946 Am. (Scot
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: haller@schaefer.math.wisc.edu (Kirk Haller) Subject: Re: webster weirdness! Message-ID: <1993Jul20.062521.29737@schaefer.math.wisc.edu> Organization: Univ. of Wisconsin Dept. of Mathematics References: <1993Jul19.184106.16996@liberty.uc.wlu.edu> Date: Tue, 20 Jul 93 06:25:21 GMT tmurdoch@liberty.uc.wlu.edu (Tim Murdoch) writes: >What do YOU get when you search on "neil" in Webster in NS3.0? >-- I think I get the same thing in NS3.1. Search for "newyorkcof" and you get a long list. Anyone with an explaination? Kirk Haller haller@math.wisc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: haller@schaefer.math.wisc.edu (Kirk Haller) Subject: Re: webster weirdness! Message-ID: <1993Jul20.063039.29868@schaefer.math.wisc.edu> Organization: Univ. of Wisconsin Dept. of Mathematics References: <1993Jul19.184106.16996@liberty.uc.wlu.edu> <abellCAFFwt.921@netcom.com> Date: Tue, 20 Jul 93 06:30:39 GMT abell@netcom.com (Steven T. Abell) writes: >tmurdoch@liberty.uc.wlu.edu (Tim Murdoch) writes: >>What do YOU get when you search on "neil" in Webster in NS3.0? >newyorkcofenvironmentalsciencea >Why? Isn't that what you expected? >Steve abell@netcom.com If you change preferences to search by prefix rather than by word, you find that "newyorkcofenvironmentalsciencea" is short for New York C. of Environmental Science and Forestry, State U. of Syracuse I have noted that the word search preference occasionally give some strange results, but that was kind of humorous. Kirk Haller haller@math.wisc.edu
From: cmc@ltp.bcm.tmc.edu (Costa Colbert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Dimming Display on Cube Date: 20 Jul 1993 14:24:12 GMT Organization: Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Tx Distribution: world Message-ID: <22gv6c$e87@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> The display on my cube at work is getting dimmer by the week. Can the monitors be fixed ? By whom ? How much ? Can you do it yourself ? This may be a FAQ by now. Sorry if it is... Costa Colbert
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: rick@TotSysSoft.com (Richard Jacoby) Subject: trouble Installing on Gateway Message-ID: <1993Jul20.101032.1006@ToTSySSoft.com> Sender: news@ToTSySSoft.com Organization: Total System Software Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1993 10:10:32 GMT We are trying to install NEXTSTEP on a Gateway 4DX2-66V with a microsoft mouse on com1 irq4, and have ran into a snag. We fixxed the keyboard jumber and booted off the floppy just fine. It loaded the sytem on the harddisk and rebooted. While it was rebooting it said somthing to the effect that it was probing for the mouse and didn't find it. It then came all the way up to the panal that asks what kind of machine you have, but we had no mouse or keboard. If you boot in single user mode, in UNIX, we can use the keyboard, but one we get up in NEXTSTEP it doesnt work any more. ANY IDEAS!!!!
From: cs438@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Denis Lafont) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Canon hardware deal/NS on PPC Date: 20 Jul 1993 14:54:38 GMT Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA) Message-ID: <22h0ve$7sh@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> > You dreamed about Canon ? Sure it was a good thing... > > I know the japanese market a little, and the asian too. > > Canon can have a killer workstation, and can take the lead in Japan... > >>Then you would know that Fujitsu/Sun are the big fish in this (as yet) >>still small pond. You also know that Canon and Canon Hanbai also have >>some fundamental "future direction" questions to answer for themselves. >>Moving from black to white hardware is much easier on other shores >>than here. Yes , you are right... What I want to show is that a lot of NeXTSTEP addicts like us usually say: "Canon is a major player for NeXTSTEP, etc, etc..." No. Canon is not. Dell is not (Dell is selling pre-installed Solaris PC). HP is not. If NeXTSTEP can win, it is not thanks to others. NeXTSTEP must be aggressively market, and NeXT, and only NeXT must do the job. They lost the hardware market because of this lack of marketing (in europe). It will be probably the same with the hardware in Japan, and with the software in Europe and (maybe) in the us. Thanks, Denis -- _________________________________________________________________ Denis LAFONT, Software Engineer e-mail : cs438@cleveland.freenet.edu -no NeXT Mail please ;-(- Disclaimer: Any opinions expressed are mine.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Message-ID: <119@promiga.win.net> From: mstilt@promiga.win.net (Matt Stiltner) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1993 03:56:38 GMT Subject: Nextstep/Intel - What do I need, FAQ I'm looking to get Nextstep 486. 1. Does NeXT have the $299 deal for NEXTSTEP 486 3.1 still? End of July is deadline I heard. If so is it upgradeable? 2. How much space would the standard install take? I'm not interested in programming it yet. This is a list of my current hardware Zeos 486/DX2-66 16MB RAM 340MB IDE HD Diamond Speed Star Pro VL-BUS Can someone point me to a FAQ that will answer questions regarding supported hardware? I know I will have to replace my graphics card, add memory, add CD-ROM, add SCSI before I can use it. ________________________________________________________________________ Matt Stiltner Internet: mstilt@promiga.win.net Toledo, OH CIS UserID: 72212,3573 419.691.0169 Just say no to MicroSoft
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: tmurdoch@liberty.uc.wlu.edu (Tim Murdoch) Subject: Re: webster weirdness! Message-ID: <1993Jul20.173001.21432@liberty.uc.wlu.edu> Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1993 17:30:01 GMT References: <1993Jul20.063039.29868@schaefer.math.wisc.edu> Organization: Washington & Lee University Kirk Haller (haller@schaefer.math.wisc.edu) wrote: : abell@netcom.com (Steven T. Abell) writes: : >tmurdoch@liberty.uc.wlu.edu (Tim Murdoch) writes: : >>What do YOU get when you search on "neil" in Webster in NS3.0? : >newyorkcofenvironmentalsciencea : >Why? Isn't that what you expected? : >Steve abell@netcom.com : If you change preferences to search by prefix rather than by word, you find : that "newyorkcofenvironmentalsciencea" is short for : New York C. of Environmental Science and Forestry, State U. of Syracuse : I have noted that the word search preference occasionally give some strange : results, but that was kind of humorous. : Kirk Haller : haller@math.wisc.edu After changing preferences to prefix, search on "neil again. What do you get? -- Tim Murdoch Assistant Prof. of Math e-mail: murdoch@wlu.edu Washington and Lee University phone: (703) 463-8810 Lexington VA 24450
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: mandel@romulus.ehs.uiuc.edu (Hector Mandel) Subject: listserver for NeXT Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1993 17:50:07 GMT Message-ID: <CAH5JK.9FJ@news.cso.uiuc.edu> Sender: usenet@news.cso.uiuc.edu (Net Noise owner) Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana I've been trying, without much luck, to compile listserver6.0 on my NeXTStation. I would appreciate hearing from anyone who has done so successfully. I'd like to see your Makefile. -- =============================================================================== Hector Mandel, CHP (217) 244-7237 |E-mail: h-mandel@uiuc.edu Head, Health Physics Section |Snail mail: 101 S. Gregory St. Division of environmental Health and Safety | Urbana, IL 61801 ===============================================================================
From: brani@isds.duke.edu (Brani Vidakovic) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXTSTEP on ZENON? Keywords: ZENON, Mathematica Message-ID: <17937@news.duke.edu> Date: 20 Jul 93 17:44:59 GMT Sender: news@news.duke.edu Dear NeXT Netters, Did anybody ported NS/Intel to Zenon (ZDream III) machine? I plan to do so, and any word of advice is welcome. The machine: Intel 486-66//16MB Ram// 520Mb Scsi2//Viper. I would like to buy MATHEMATICA 2.X with NeXT front end. Does it work under NS? Anybody selling? Thanks, Brani
From: kline@CS.Arizona.EDU (Nick Kline) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP on ZENON? Date: 20 Jul 1993 13:59:09 -0700 Organization: University of Arizona CS Department, Tucson AZ Message-ID: <22hmat$eaj@cheltenham.cs.arizona.edu> References: <17937@news.duke.edu> Keywords: ZENON, Mathematica >Dear NeXT Netters, > >Did anybody ported NS/Intel to >Zenon (ZDream III) machine? >I plan to do so, and any word of >advice is welcome. I investigated and the scsi that comes with this machine is not compatible with the supported adaptec boards. Thus if you buy this machine you'd need to buy a separate scsi board. -nick
From: glenn@rightbrain.com (Glenn Reid) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: * * * RightBrain Sale: 50% off through July (RTF) * * * Message-ID: <1276@rtbrain.rightbrain.com> Date: 20 Jul 93 20:38:22 GMT References: <1273@rtbrain.rightbrain.com> Sender: glenn@rightbrain.com Several of you have sent mail saying that the 10-minute demo period is too short. Here is a key that will enable the product through the end of the month for anybody who wants to try it out (it's on "cs.orst.edu" under pub/next/submissions): 18A9-268F-7D68-3D96-203F Also, one slightly non-obvious thing without the manual is that the text tool creates two different kinds of text blocks depending on whether you just click once or click and drag to form a rectangle. -- Glenn Reid NeXTmail: glenn@rightbrain.com RightBrain Software 415-326-2974 (NeXTfax 326-2977) Palo Alto, California Electronic Frontier Foundation, member #054
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: mcmahon@ny.shl.com (Michael McMahon) Subject: Career Opportunity - Systemhouse seeks Object Oriented professional. Message-ID: <CAHI8t.Mx8@ny.shl.com> Keywords: jobs, offered, wanted Sender: usenet@ny.shl.com (Net News) Organization: SHL Systemhouse Inc. Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1993 22:24:28 GMT Systemhouse, a $800 million Systems Integration firm, is recognized as the industry leader in client/server technology. Systemhouse employs over 4,000 people worldwide and maintains a large heterogeneous network of workstations including more than 100 NeXT machines. We are putting together the best NeXT expertise available. Since November we have hired a core group in New York and Boulder, Colorado, and by September expect to be up to a staff of approximately 100. We are executing concepts that others are still only talking about - Reusable Object Library - Standard Certification of Objects - Distributed Development - etc. Furthermore we have established an Object Technology Center(OTC) for applied Object Oriented methodologies and development techniques. The OTC in Boulder, is a research and development facility exploring the cutting edge of the relatively new object technology. The charter of the Center is two-fold: to explore and understand all hardware and software related to the object-oriented development industry; and to establish itself as a focal point where companies in diverse verticals markets can join together to leverage OTC's research and experience. Leading the OTC is Vince Jordan, recently of WilTel Advanced Technology Center and recognized in the NeXT community as a pacesetter in the object-oriented development revolution. We need bright, enthusiastic experienced people!!! The following opportunities exist in various U.S. locations: - Object Oriented Programmers (Position C101) * 2+ years Object Oriented Programming (C++/Objective C/SmallTalk) * 2+ years database design and database applications * 5 years UNIX/C application development * 2+ years RDBMS (SYBASE preferred) * 1+ years NeXTSTEP applications development * AppKit, DBKit, NeXTSTEP 3.0, OOD * GUI and Porting experience - Senior Applications Development Engineers (Position C102) * 5-7 years UNIX/C applications development * Financial trading applications * 1+ years NeXT/NeXTSTEP/AppKit/DBKit/Objective C * Sun, SYBASE/C++ a plus - Software Engineers (Position C103) * NeXT/UNIX application software development * Strong NeXTSTEP, AppKit, Interface Builder, DBKit * High level design, rapid prototyping in NeXT * Strong Objective C or C++ * 3 to 5 years experience - Database Specialists (Position C104) * 3+ years database design and database applications development (ORACLE/SYBASE preferred) * 3 years UNIX/C application development * 3 years RDBMS experience using an SQL-based RDBMS * 1+ year NeXTSTEP applications a plus * AppKit, DBKit, NeXTSTEP 3.0, OOD, Objective C a plus For more information about these exciting opportunities, call or send your resume to: Steve Green - Manager, Human Resources SHL Systemhouse Inc. 885 Third Avenue, 25th Floor New York, New York, U.S.A. 10022-4834 Telephone: 212-303-5500 Fax: 212-303-5595 E-Mail: Steve_Green@ny.shl.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: rm@califhistsoc.org (Robert MacKimmie) Subject: "neil" in Webster Message-ID: <CAFxAw.5MJ@califhistsoc.org> Sender: rm@califhistsoc.org (one) Organization: California Historical Society - Bringing the 19th Century, kicking and screaming, into the 21st! 415 567-1848 or fax 415 567-2394. Distribution: comp.sys.next.misc Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1993 01:54:31 GMT Everything will be clear when you search it on the Webster Thesaurus.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: sherwood@fenris.space.ualberta.ca (System Administrator) Subject: Re: Better Grays out of the NLP Message-ID: <1993Jul20.222549.3842@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada References: <CAFJp2.AKz@world.std.com> Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1993 22:25:49 GMT Chris Lloyd (lloyd@world.std.com) wrote: : Has anyone come up with a way to get nicer looking grayscales out of the : NeXT Laser Printer? The Default ones look like crud, the dots in the : half-tone patterns are huge-ola. You can play with the setscreen command. To do this you need to hack the postcript code. The default screen frequency on the Next is 50 or 60 dpi. This produces a dither cell that is 8 pixels on a side. The pixels however when printed are much larger than 1/400 of an inch, so the light grey part of the picture is darker than it should be, and blacks are blotted out. By hacking the setscreen command, you are trading fewer grey tones for higher resolution. I find that I like the results best with either an 80 dpi or a 100 dpi resolution. With the latter, I will run the bitmap through a contrast enhancement filter first. The hack: 100 0 {180 mul cos exch 180 mul cos add 2 div} setscreen Put this line after the scale and translate commands. The first two parameters are screen frequency, and screen angle. For explanations of the stuff in the {} see the adobe documentation. Recommended for fiddling around with bitmaps is Jef Poskanzer's pbmplus suite of programs. Available on sonata, if not, then mail me. -- => Sherwood Botsford sherwood@space.ualberta.ca <= => University of Alberta Lab Manager, Space Physics Group <= => tel:403 492-3713 fax: 403 492-4256 <=
From: mmcohen@cats.ucsc.edu (Michael M Cohen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc Subject: CRIMSON VGX heat dissipation? Date: 21 Jul 1993 01:10:25 GMT Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz Distribution: world Message-ID: <22i521INN6ei@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> Planning a new building, Can anyone supply the heat dissapation of a crimson vgx in BTUs/hr or whatever? email to mmcohen@dewi.ucsc.edu, thanks in advance, MMCohen -- ====================================================================== = Dr. Michael M. Cohen mmcohen@dewi.ucsc.edu = = Program in Experimental Psychology mmcohen@fuzzy.ucsc.edu = = 433 Clark Kerr Hall 408-459-2655 LAB = = University of California - Santa Cruz 408-459-2700 MSGS = = Santa Cruz, CA 95064 408-459-3519 FAX = ======================================================================
From: michlb@nebula.ps.uci.edu (Michl Binderbauer) Subject: NeXTstation stolen Message-ID: <2C4CC830.9086@news.service.uci.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: University of California, Irvine Date: 21 Jul 93 04:38:09 GMT My NeXTstation including two external disk drives, NeXT laser printer and ZyXel modem were stolen from my house a few days ago: * NeXTstation mono 25MHz, 20MB, 340MB Maxtor internal disk CPU Serial# ABB0010745 Maxtor drive model LXT-340S, Serial# L00370863-1 * Megapixeldisplay Serial# AAA7000325 * NeXT 400dpi Laser Printer Serial# AAC0007425 * Andataco external drive Model# 309A3-F Fujitsu drive model M2624FA, Serial# 0066645 * Andataco external drive Model# 306B-3 Quantum 105MB drive (this was the drive originally in the pizza box) * ZyXEL modem Model# U-1496E Serial# SIA0200544 The worst part about the whole theft is the fact that 2 years worth of my PhD thesis research is stored on the disks. I do have some limited backup but a considerable amount of data and calculations are gone completely and it will take me weeks to recover and reproduce everything. In case somebody comes across any of the stolen items please contact me at: (714) 833-1840 (or leave a message at (714) 557-3327) or send e-mail to: =) michl@golem.ps.uci.edu =) michlb@astro2.ps.uci.edu =) michlb@nebula.ps.uci.edu Thank you very much for your help! michl -- Michl Binderbauer Dept. of Physics University of California, Irvine Irvine, CA 92714 (714) 725-2605
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: You and your Swapfile Message-ID: <1993Jul20.190002.16583@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <1993Jul17.182548.22178@midway.uchicago.edu> Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1993 19:00:02 GMT In article <1993Jul17.182548.22178@midway.uchicago.edu> fo6r@ellis.uchicago.edu (Eric's NeXT Fortune) writes: > > Just for my and the net's general information, someone please > give specifics on the operation of the swapfile. I think that > swapfile compression and its performance boost are well known in > this group, as is the fact that once the amount swapped out exceeds > the lowat (usually 16 meg) that the swapfile "grows and grows." > > Although I am interested in the some specifics of swapfile operation, > I am most interested in why the swapfile cannot be reduced to the > lowat until reboot. If big processes are exited, why can't the > swapfile be re-mapped to reclaim the unused memory... How is swapfile > memory allocated and reclaimed? Does the lowat do anything else other > than at reboot or restart? Is there a way, beyond getting more RAM > (which is a given) and running fewer apps, of managing your swapfile? > > Lastly, what is the optimal lowat size and why? I have heard that > the lowat should be roughly equal to the RAM in one's machine. > What is the benefit/costs of a lower or higher lowat? > For some unspecified reason (performance?) swapspace is reclaimed in larger chunks and never remapped. I think the caching algorithm for the I-node information won't allow it. You have the advantage that swapping runs on a common fast file system instead of a raw device, which spares you the expense of a fixed disk area unusable for any other purpose. Unfortunately, it is less desirable if the machine is never switched off and/or lots a misbehavin' processes suck memory. You can declare a high water mark, which will guarantee your swapfile never grows beyond bounds. But this means a process gets stuck sometimes. Too much of low water means your disk space is wasted, too few means you spend precious time expanding the swap file into less optimized , probably far off, regions of the file system. The additional head movement won't speed things up. Upon installation BuildDisk allocates contiguous space to the swap file. This advantage will be lost when lowering the low water mark. Things can be faster if you distribute swap space over two or more physical disks. Allocating less swap space than physical memory could lead to rare events that a process doesn't fit into swap space although it fitted into main memory. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | NeXTmail welcome !!! # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: t19@nikhef.nl (Geert J v Oldenborgh) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: You and your Swapfile Message-ID: <2374@nikhefh.nikhef.nl> Date: 21 Jul 93 10:05:12 GMT References: <1993Jul17.182548.22178@midway.uchicago.edu> <1993Jul20.190002.16583@nidat.sub.org> Organization: Nikhef-H, Amsterdam (the Netherlands). One comment often made is that the swapfile will never shrink. This is not true, at least on a 3.0 station. When I run a music editor with an 80 MB file, do _absolutely_nothing_else_, save, (make tea) and quit, a terrible rattling noise goes on for about two minutes, during which the machine does not respond to anything. Afterwards the swapfile is back at 16MB. Note hat this only seems to work if no other process allocated memory in the meantime - even the scrollbackbuffer of Terminal. It is thus of very limited practical relevance. Geert Jan van Oldenborgh.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: fletcher@socrates.umd.edu (Charles Fletcher) Subject: Black->White::Where do I get additional tools? Message-ID: <1993Jul21.134625.4282@socrates.umd.edu> Organization: University of Maryland University College Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1993 13:46:25 GMT I now have a white "Color Turbo NeXT" and now realize what I am missing from the "black days". Since I loaded the dev env, I do have emacs and TeX, but I am missing kermit, Xmouse, Emacs (the front end), and gnuplot. (I found the FAT version of gzip!-). I can recompile gnuplot since I have source, but I would like to get compiled versions (either white or FAT) of kermit and Xmouse. I'm sure these exist, I'm just not finding them. Would someone please point me to their location. Thanks greatly in advance. Charlie -- NeXTMail to: | ...to confer, converse, and charlie@technosci.com | otherwise hobnob with my | brother wizards.
From: zie@lte.e-technik.uni-erlangen.de (Thomas Ziegler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Seyon ported for Next (X11)? Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1993 14:00:12 GMT Organization: Technische Elektronik, University of Erlangen, Germany Message-ID: <22ji5cE1eo@uni-erlangen.de> Does anybody know if Seyon, an X11 based terminal program is ported to next? There is support for bsd style ioctl but I was not succsessful in getting everything to work (e.g. autoZmodemDownload does not work). Thomas
From: peterk@pknms.toppoint.de (Peter Kretzschmar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NewsGrazer for NS486 Distribution: world Message-ID: <743263990peterk.postmast@pknms.toppoint.de> Sender: postmast@pknms.toppoint.de Date: Wed, 21 Jul 93 14:13:10 GMT Organization: private site Where can i find NewsGrazer as FAT binary or ported to the Intel Hardware ? Where are the new serial line drivers ? Are they out ? Peter -- Peter Kretzschmar +49 4321 41471 peterk@pknms.toppoint.de Grossflecken 54 24534 Neumuenster GERMANY
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: phoskins@arrinext.uta.edu (Paul Hoskins) Subject: Re: webster weirdness! (The TRUTH is revealed) Message-ID: <1993Jul21.140853.7205@news.uta.edu> Keywords: webster, weird, answer Sender: news@news.uta.edu (USENET News System) Organization: University of Texas at Arlington References: <1993Jul20.173001.21432@liberty.uc.wlu.edu> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1993 14:08:53 GMT Webster has an entire list of universities and colleges in it, along with the zipcode of the school and the date they were founded. To get the particular listing for a college put on a single line, lower case, no spaces: (state) (name of college) neil is just short for "newyorkcofenvironmentalsciencea" which is the name for New York C. of Environmental Science and Forestry, State U. of Syracuse Follow the general guidlines and you can get the information for any college Paul Hoskins phoskins@arri.uta.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: rick@TotSysSoft.com (Richard Jacoby) Subject: FIP Gateway problems Message-ID: <1993Jul21.132831.4130@ToTSySSoft.com> Sender: news@ToTSySSoft.com Organization: Total System Software Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1993 13:28:31 GMT Thanks for all the responces that I received reguarding mouse problems with the Gateway....... Most of the problem was the cables for the on board serial port were crossed. (Thanks Mitch). Well, we got it installed, the configure app came up, and we had keyboard, and mouse!! any way even though we were running a serial mouse, the configure app had ps2mouse selected. We figured "Its working good like this lets leave it alone" BIG MISTAKE! After a reboot, it came up fine except no more mouse. Well later in the evening we got another message from Mitch message detailing his gateway installation that said something like this: PICKING A MOUSE Although I have a Logitech bus mouse, NEXTSTEP seems to want you to use a PS/2 mouse instead. When you get to the Configure application during the installation, only the PS/2 mouse appears in the window, even though NEXTSTEP knows you have a bus mouse and is letting you use it. (The same thing is true if you're using a serial mouse; NEXTSTEP still only shows the PS/2 mouse in Configure.) You *can*, however, add the bus or serial mouse: click the Add button, and Bus Mouse and Serial Mouse appear in a new, bigger list of choices. You can also remove the PS/2 mouse while you're at it. If you don't choose the kind of mouse you're using in Configure (and you're not using a PS/2 mouse), your mouse won't work when you finish the installation. ====================================================== Well the same thing goes with serial mice, but we already screwed up. Does any one know how to reboot the NEXTSTEP so that it starts up with the configure panal like it does on the inital startup instead of going into NEXTSTEP. Maybe we could have mouse control, and reset it to a serial mouse.. If not, does anyone know what files could be edited by hand to set up the serial mouse insted of the PS2 mouse. Thanks Rick
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc From: stanj@ferrari.corp.sgi.com (Stan Jensen - SGI Express) Subject: Re: CRIMSON VGX heat dissipation? Message-ID: <CAIvJz.Ao0@odin.corp.sgi.com> To: mmcohen@fuzzy.ucsc.edu Sender: news@odin.corp.sgi.com (Net News) Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc. References: <22i521INN6ei@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1993 16:09:35 GMT In article <22i521INN6ei@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>, mmcohen@cats.ucsc.edu (Michael M Cohen) writes: |> |> Planning a new building, Can anyone supply the |> heat dissapation of a crimson vgx in BTUs/hr |> or whatever? email to mmcohen@dewi.ucsc.edu, thanks |> in advance, MMCohen The data sheet says 5,120 BTUs/hour. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Stan Jensen, Systems Engineer for "SGI Express" stanj@corp.sgi.com Silicon Graphics Inc., M/S 14L-120 Phone:(415)390-5822 P.O. Box 7311, 1350 Charleston Road FAX: (415)962-1589 Mt. View, CA 94039-7311 "I (heart) Tonks" SGI Express for U.S. and Canada: 1-800-800-7441 SGI Express for U.K.: 0800 440 440 (FAX: 0734 304 417) SGI Express for Germany: 0130 811 011 -------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: marcos@kaleida.com (Paul Marcos) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NextStep for PowerPC chips? Date: 19 Jul 1993 15:12:31 GMT Organization: Kaleida Labs, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <22edkvINN55s@golden.kaleida.com> References: <gindling.742927707@rintintin.Colorado.EDU> In article <gindling.742927707@rintintin.Colorado.EDU> gindling@rintintin.Colorado.EDU (GINDLING JIM) writes: > Does anybody happen to know if Next plans on porting it's NextStep operating > system to PowerPC computers when they become available? > No official announcements have been made by NeXT. People have seen parts of NS running on PowerPC machines internally at NeXT. The current rumor is that the Cannon spin off hardware company will produce the PowerPC machines to run various OSes including NeXTSTEP. Paul ................................................................... Paul Marcos NeXTMail appreciated Kaleida Labs, Inc. marcos@kaleid.com ...................................................................
From: fischedj@ NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (David J. Fischer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Can the Gateway 2000 mouse be used with NSI? Date: 21 Jul 1993 17:50:43 GMT Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology Message-ID: <22jvlj$ock@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu> Subject says it all. I intend to buy the Gateway 200 66v (DX2 66MHz machine) with the 500MB SCSI HD upgrade (assuming it has an Adaptec interface) and install NEXSTEP/FIP (the academic version) on it. I want to know if I can use the mouse that comes with the computer, or if I must purchase a Logitech mouse. Also, is there a summary of the bugs/fixes for installing on a Gateway machine? Thank you for your time and help? -- David J. Fischer : fischedj@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu "What's more important, the plays of Shakespeare or the quill he used to write them down? If he'd used a mission critical custom quill with built-in spell checker, would his plays have been any better? " -- Dave Griffiths (in response to a NeXT advocate on c.s.n.m)
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: FIP Gateway problems Date: 21 Jul 1993 18:20:32 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL Message-ID: <22k1dg$ml2@news.acns.nwu.edu> References: <1993Jul21.132831.4130@ToTSySSoft.com> In article <1993Jul21.132831.4130@ToTSySSoft.com> rick@TotSysSoft.com (Richard Jacoby) writes: [misc deleted] > >Well, we got it installed, the configure app came up, and we had >keyboard, and mouse!! any way even though we were running a serial >mouse, the configure app had ps2mouse selected. >We figured "Its working good like this lets leave it alone" >BIG MISTAKE! After a reboot, it came up fine except no more mouse. > Very annoying, especially since they updated NextAnswers for Gateway a few days ago. Didn't mention a thing about this. This topic has been the subject of much discussion here, so it wasn't a complete surprise. >PICKING A MOUSE > >Although I have a Logitech bus mouse, NEXTSTEP seems to want you to >use a PS/2 mouse instead. When you get to the Configure application >during the installation, only the PS/2 mouse appears in the window, >even though NEXTSTEP knows you have a bus mouse and is letting you >use it. (The same thing is true if you're using a serial mouse; >NEXTSTEP still only shows the PS/2 mouse in Configure.) You *can*, >however, add the bus or serial mouse: click the Add button, and Bus >Mouse and Serial Mouse appear in a new, bigger list of choices. You >can also remove the PS/2 mouse while you're at it. If you don't >choose the kind of mouse you're using in Configure (and you're not >using a PS/2 mouse), your mouse won't work when you finish the >installation. >====================================================== > > >Well the same thing goes with serial mice, but we already screwed up. >Does any one know how to reboot the NEXTSTEP so that it starts up >with the configure panal like it does on the inital startup instead >of going into NEXTSTEP. Maybe we could have mouse control, and reset >it to a serial mouse.. > >If not, does anyone know what files could be edited by hand to set >up the serial mouse insted of the PS2 mouse. > I had the same problem on an install last night. I edited /usr/Device/System.config/Instance0.table (I hope this is correct, my NS/FIP is at home). I added SerialMouse and SerialPorts to Both lines that listed drivers. This is probably not entirely correct, but it was late, I was tired and use at your own risk. My configuration: Gateway 4DX2-66 with GXJ03 (or whatever) Bios, Microsoft Serial Mouse W7 installed as in the latest NextAnswer Bulletin on Gateway machines, IDE disk with dos and next partitions. When I couldn't use my mouse I used Alt L to get workspace into Listing mode, used the cursor keys to navigate to /NextApps/Terminal then Return to run. From then on I was able to do an su and cd over to the directories I needed mess with. You could boot with -s to get into single user mode as well, but vi doesn't work real well so I punted. I strongly suggest making a copy of any file BEFORE you change anything. -- Jerry S. Weiss j-weiss@nwu.edu Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois %SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
From: baratoff@cfar.umd.edu (Gregory Baratoff) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Looking for competent 486-NS vendors Message-ID: <69499@mimsy.umd.edu> Date: 21 Jul 93 19:02:07 GMT Sender: news@mimsy.umd.edu Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: U of Maryland, Center for Automation Research, Coll. Pk., MD 20742 I am considering buying a 486 machine to run NS. I haven't made up my mind as to which machine it will be, so I'd like to call up some companies to check out their offers. Since NS 3.1 imposes some restrictions on the kind of peripherals that can be used, I would like to get in touch with sales/tech persons who are familiar with NS and its requirements. If you know of any such person (at Gateway, Dell, NEC, etc), please send me their name, company, phone/fax (+extension #), email. Since this is of potential interest to many netters, I will post a summary to this Newsgroup. Thanks, Greg. ****************************************************************************** * Gregory Baratoff e-mail : baratoff@cfar.umd.edu * * Center for Automation Research * * University of Maryland * * College Park, MD 20742 * ******************************************************************************
From: jim@nestmoi.rain.com (Jim Chorn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: making gzip Message-ID: <1993Jul21.165519.3387@nestmoi.rain.com> Date: 21 Jul 93 16:55:19 GMT Article-I.D.: nestmoi.1993Jul21.165519.3387 References: <1993Jul15.140613.24751@sunova.ssc.gov> <YKIFB0BR@gwdu03.gwdg.de> Organization: none - Portland, OR Ed Faught (faught@berserk.ssc.gov) wrote: : In article <1993Jul14.175919.265@sunova.ssc.gov> : faught@berserk.ssc.gov (Ed Faught) writes: : Many of the people replying to the original post : wanted to know more, so here's : what happens: [stuff deleted] : gzip.c:149: sys/file.h: No such file or directory : *** Exit 1 : Stop. -> I'm not sitting at my NeXT in the moment, but thats really -> a very simple one - just replace in gzip.c the <sys/file.h> -> by <bsd/sys/file.h> or whatever the correct path for file.h -> is (or was it ansi/sys ???) To find out start Librarian -> and search for file.h in the Headerfiles Selection. Or do -> a "find /usr/include -name file.h -print" or just look in -> the browser - if I'd sit at my machine I'd tell you the -> right place but I'm sure you'll find it. A more maintainable approach would be to use the -I/usr/include/bsd compiler directive in the makefile (CFLAGS) and leave the code alone. Or manually: cc -I/usr/include/bsd gzip.c ... -jim jim@nestmoi.rain.com
From: marc@ashley.ucla.edu (Marc Day) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Why are Docs in Pkgs. on CD-ROM? Date: 21 Jul 1993 21:19:01 GMT Organization: ucla Sender: marc@ashley (Marc Day) Distribution: world Message-ID: <22kbs5$f4d@news.mic.ucla.edu> References: <2245v3$pe0@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> In article <2245v3$pe0@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>, gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks) writes: |> |> Can anyone explain to me why Next puts it Dev. docs |> in those packages on their cd-roms, thus making it |> necessary to use hard disk space? CD-ROMS hold |> hundreds of MB of data. Can't think of a better use |> for cd-rom than to hold those docs. |> |> Thanks |> |> Robert |> |> |> This article generated a few responses, I'll add one. Because, not everybody has a CDROM available for everyday use. I had to borrow one for installation. M -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marc Day, graduate student Institute of Plasma Fusion Research 44-139 Engineering IV University of California Los Angeles, CA 90024-1597 Internet: day@fusion.ucla.edu -------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: lorinr@altsys.com (Lorin Rivers III) Subject: Re: Better Grays out of the NLP Message-ID: <1993Jul21.202415.24902@altsys.com> Organization: Altsys Corporation, Richardson, TX References: <CAFJp2.AKz@world.std.com> <1993Jul20.222549.3842@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1993 20:24:15 GMT In article <1993Jul20.222549.3842@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> sherwood@fenris.space.ualberta.ca (System Administrator) writes: >Chris Lloyd (lloyd@world.std.com) wrote: >: Has anyone come up with a way to get nicer looking grayscales out of the >: NeXT Laser Printer? The Default ones look like crud, the dots in the >: half-tone patterns are huge-ola. > >You can play with the setscreen command. To do this you need to hack >the postcript code. The default screen frequency on the Next is 50 or >60 dpi. This produces a dither cell that is 8 pixels on a side. The >pixels however when printed are much larger than 1/400 of an inch, so >the light grey part of the picture is darker than it should be, and >blacks are blotted out. > >By hacking the setscreen command, you are trading fewer grey tones for >higher resolution. I find that I like the results best with either an >80 dpi or a 100 dpi resolution. With the latter, I will run the bitmap >through a contrast enhancement filter first. > >The hack: >100 0 {180 mul cos exch 180 mul cos add 2 div} setscreen >Put this line after the scale and translate commands. > > >The first two parameters are screen frequency, and screen angle. >For explanations of the stuff in the {} see the adobe documentation. > >Recommended for fiddling around with bitmaps is Jef Poskanzer's pbmplus >suite of programs. Available on sonata, if not, then mail me. >-- >=> Sherwood Botsford sherwood@space.ualberta.ca <= >=> University of Alberta Lab Manager, Space Physics Group <= >=> tel:403 492-3713 fax: 403 492-4256 <= 72 lpi is a good compromise between the default (too low) and and not-enough-greys. Virtuoso gives you control over this through the ppd's. Look at the ppd to find some stuff on linescreen & resolution relationships. There is a formula for determining the number of greys available. It's something like (dpi/lpi)squared so for 400 dpi and 72 lpi you get 25 greys available. The NLP dithers though... so it's hard to say EXACTLY how many you get... -- Lorin Rivers Lorin_Rivers@altsys.com Altsys Technical Support 214.680.2518 269 W. Renner Parkway NeXT Mail Expected Richardson, Texas 75080 I said it, not my boss
From: borchers@poogh.llnl.gov (Robert R. Borchers) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Font help needed !!!! Date: 21 Jul 1993 22:44:46 GMT Organization: Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, NCD Message-ID: <22kgsu$q4o@lll-winken.llnl.gov> Does anyone know a utility, or in general, how to convert a font FROM the NeXT TO a Mac? I can find all kinds of converters going the other way. Bob -- Robert R. Borchers L-414 Livermore, Ca 94551 borchers@llnl.gov NeXTmail Welcome
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: Scott Byer <byer@mv.us.adobe.com> Subject: Re: Font help needed !!!! Message-ID: <1993Jul21.235640.13170@adobe.com> Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS) Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated References: <22kgsu$q4o@lll-winken.llnl.gov> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1993 23:56:40 GMT Robert R. Borchers writes > Does anyone know a utility, or in general, how to convert a font > FROM the NeXT TO a Mac? I can find all kinds of converters going > the other way. Bob While it's possible, it certainly wouldn't be easy, and I'm not aware of any utilities to do so. The Mac format is cumbersome, to say the least. -- Scott Byer NeXTMail: byer@mv.us.adobe.com Adobe Systems Incorporated These are *my* opinions, and 1585 Charleston Road, P.O. Box 7900 do not necessarily reflect Mountain View, CA 94039-7900 the opinions of my employer. ---------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: shayman@Trimark.com Subject: Re: webster weirdness! Message-ID: <1993Jul20.174820.6278@trimark.com> Sender: news@trimark.com Organization: Trimark Investment Management, Toronto References: <1993Jul20.143311.7348@news.lrz-muenchen.de> Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1993 17:48:20 GMT Hey gang, the Webster index has had bugs in it since at least release 0.9. (F'rinstance look up "test" or any 4 letter word that ends in "est"). It's not really news when you find something that's mis-indexed. (What would be news if you found an old indexing error that had been corrected!) Regards, steve P.S. yes I have reported the "test" indexing bug, at least 4 times.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: jon@afs.com Subject: Re: NextStep for PowerPC chips? Message-ID: <1993Jul21.214820.1399@afs.com> Sender: jon@afs.com References: <22edkvINN55s@golden.kaleida.com> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1993 21:48:20 GMT In article <22edkvINN55s@golden.kaleida.com> marcos@kaleida.com (Paul Marcos) writes: | In article <gindling.742927707@rintintin.Colorado.EDU> | gindling@rintintin.Colorado.EDU (GINDLING JIM) writes: | > Does anybody happen to know if Next plans on porting it's NextStep | operating | > system to PowerPC computers when they become available? | > | | No official announcements have been made by NeXT. People have seen parts | of NS running on PowerPC machines internally at NeXT. The current rumor | is that the Cannon spin off hardware company will produce the PowerPC | machines to run various OSes including NeXTSTEP. | Unfortunately, the latest NeXTWorld's rumor column says that all ports other than the HP port are on hold until they get Intel going well and HP done. It also says that DEC offered a big chunk of cash for an Alpha port, but they had to turn it down. <sigh> There's only one Avadis Tevanian, after all. But remember, this isn't confirmed or anything, it's just Lieutenant Sullivan. -- Jon Hendry It's a thousand classes, give or take a few, <jon@afs.com> I'll be writing more in a week or two. I can make it deeper if you like the style, I can change it round and I want to be an ObjectWare Writer
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: Neil Greene <neil@kynug.org> Subject: RECOMMENDATION: Printing Large Documents Message-ID: <1993Jul21.204758.12392@kynug.org> Sender: neil@kynug.org (Neil Greene) Organization: Kentucky NEXTSTEP User Group, Inc. Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1993 20:47:58 GMT I have a large document I need to have printed from FrameMaker, front and back. What recommendations does anyone have to accomplish this?? I remember seeing a script posted a few weeks ago that would take a postscript file and allow the printing of every other page or some weird algorithm to accomplish this. -- Neil Greene President, benchMark Developments, Inc. [NeXT VAR] President, Kentucky NeXT User Group, Inc. North American, TIFFany Distributor
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: lbrahman@du.edu (.... Brahm ....) Subject: Info about GOLDLEAF PUBLISHING Message-ID: <CAJK70.7IA@du.edu> Followup-To: brahm@alembic.com Keywords: GOLDLEAF Sender: news@du.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Q. Image & Advertising Inc. Distribution: usa Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1993 01:01:48 GMT Does anyone know the phone/fax/e-mail address of GOLDLEAF PUBLISHING in Larkspur California? It seems that they have moved to a new address and there is no recording. Thanks. ...Brahm
From: bbeckwit@carrock.hw.stratus.com (Bob Beckwith) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NextStep for PowerPC chips? Date: 22 Jul 1993 01:36:59 GMT Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc. Message-ID: <22kqvr$alb@transfer.stratus.com> References: <22edkvINN55s@golden.kaleida.com> <1993Jul21.214820.1399@afs.com> In article <1993Jul21.214820.1399@afs.com> jon@afs.com writes: >Unfortunately, the latest NeXTWorld's rumor column says that all ports other >than the HP port are on hold until they get Intel going well and HP done. [munch] >There's only one Avadis Tevanian, after all. Jon, Avie is very smart and does a lot of good work, but comments like this only serve as a slap in the face to all the other very smart and hardworking folks NeXT has working for them. I understand that you probably didn't intend it this way, but this is, in essence, what you've done to those "quiet few" at NEXT that do read this group. Please try and be more considerate in the future. --Bob -- Bob_Beckwith@vos.stratus.com Stratus Computer, Inc., Hardware Engineering 55 Fairbanks Blvd. Marlboro, MA 01752 USA
From: mitch@mills.edu (Mitch Gass) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Can the Gateway 2000 mouse be used with NSI? Date: 22 Jul 1993 01:59:52 GMT Organization: Mills College, Oakland CA Message-ID: <22ksao$908@agate.berkeley.edu> References: <22jvlj$ock@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu> David J. Fischer writes: >I intend to buy the Gateway 200 66v (DX2 66MHz machine) with the 500MB SCSI HD >upgrade (assuming it has an Adaptec interface) and install NEXSTEP/FIP (the >academic version) on it. I want to know if I can use the mouse that comes with >the computer, or if I must purchase a Logitech mouse. If it is a Microsoft serial mouse, it'll work fine. The only problem is running out of serial ports, which can happen if you have a modem and use a serial printer. In NS/I 3.1, the serial mouse must use COM1, which can make it difficult to make room for other serial devices. >Also, is there a summary of the bugs/fixes for installing on a Gateway machine? I've been keeping my own list of problems and solutions for an earlier Gateway 66V (one from February, before they started using the new motherboards with Pentium upgrade sockets). Earlier, I read that there was going to be an NS/I installation FAQ, but I haven't seen it. Here are my updated notes, for what they're worth. I've also included the message from Paul Sears about setting the PS/2 keyboard jumper, which is apparently necessary for the newer 66Vs. Mitch Gass mitch@mills.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------- NS/I Installation Adventures on a Gateway 4DX2-66V Thanks to Lusty Diana and to everyone else who offered suggestions. For the benefit of anyone else trying to install NS/I on a Gateway, here's what's happened during my installation. THE SYSTEM Gateway 4DX2-66V (February 1993). It has the motherboard with 4 72-pin SIMM sockets and no Pentium socket. 16MB of RAM ATI Graphics Ultra Pro VL-bus video card (see below) Phoenix 80486 ROM BIOS PLUS Version 0.10 GLB01 Adaptec 1542B SCSI controller with latest BIOS (see below) Maxtor MXT-1240S 1.2GB SCSI hard drive Apple CD SC CD-ROM drive (and, later, an AppleCD 300) UPGRADING THE ATI GRAPHICS ULTRA PRO I upgraded the Ultra Pro shipped with the Gateway (which had only 1MB of VRAM and the older RAMDAC) with an extra megabyte of VRAM and a new RAMDAC. This upgrade is available from Gateway for $125. It turns out that the instructions sent by Gateway for upgrading the RAMDAC were wrong. There are two different sockets on the Ultra Pro for RAMDACs, one for a rectangular chip with two rows of pins, and another for a square chip with lots of pins. The instructions assume that your 1MB Ultra Pro came with the RAMDAC with two rows of pins, but mine had a square RAMDAC in the same socket that's used for the new RAMDAC that comes with the upgrade. (According to Gateway, the square RAMDAC included with the upgrade *is* an upgrade, not just an equivalent chip, so I needed to replace the old RAMDAC with the new one.) At first, I couldn't figure out how to get out the square RAMDAC. I called Gateway, and they suggested getting a dental scribe (the kind a dental hygienist uses to clean teeth) and use it to pry up the corners. (I found a scribe at a big Pay Less drug store nearby.) The scribe works, but you need to be *very* careful not to get the scribe under the pins at the corners; it's very easy to bend the pins. CONFIGURING THE ADAPTEC 1542B Gateway sells the Adaptec 1542B SCSI controller for $210, which seems like a reasonable price. (It includes a driver kit. You don't need the kit for NEXTSTEP, but it comes in handy if you have a DOS partition and want to run DOS/Windows once in a while. Note that the kit does *not* include the driver for CD-ROM drives under DOS. The DOS CD-ROM driver is included in Adaptec's EZ-SCSI package, which is available as an upgrade from Adaptec (for about half the street price) if you already have the kit from Gateway. If your CD-ROM drive supports PhotoCDs, hold out for the new version of EZ-SCSI--which is supposed to be out by the end of July--that includes PhotoCD support.) When I configured the controller, I used the ASCII version of the NeXTanswers note about the 1542B, which doesn't have a lot of information about the jumper settings. Be sure to get either the PostScript or the fax version of the note, which include illustrations of the correct jumper settings. To use a SCSI disk larger than a gigabyte, the NeXTanswers note says that you need to get the BIOS upgrade for the 1542B from Adaptec. (This upgrade is apparently only necessary for the 1542B; the 1542C supports disks larger than a gigabyte). Getting the upgrade turned out to be easy, fast, and free: I just called Adaptec Technical Support at 1-800-959-7274 and told them what I needed. I got the upgrade the next day. However, the upgrade doesn't do the trick. With extended translation enabled (the mechanism that Adaptec uses to break the DOS 1GB limit for hard disks), NEXTSTEP will not install. Without extended translation enabled (which the NeXTanswers note shows as the correct jumper setting), NEXTSTEP can only use the first 1024MB on the disk. Doing a low-level reformat of the disk with extended translation enabled, as suggested by Adaptec technical support, did not solve the problem. NeXT technical support now knows about the problem, but they don't have a solution. After hearing about the many problems people have with SCSI termination and cabling, I decided to play it safe and get an active terminator (the kind required by the SCSI-2 specification, but hard to find) to connect to the (external) CD-ROM drive, as well as a SCSI-2 cable. (My hard drive, a Maxtor MXT-1240S, includes an active terminator, and I suspect any drive labeled SCSI-2 does, too.) I got both the terminator and cable from CS Electronics at (714) 259-9100 for what seemed like reasonable prices (about $35 for each). Service was quite fast: I got the order (which included a custom cable) in 3 days. Note that if you have both internal and external SCSI devices connected to the Adaptec, you need to remove the Adaptec's built-in terminators (three identical "chips", each with a single row of pins), as described in the Adaptec manual. A little screwdriver with a thin, narrow blade will do the trick. I used an old Apple CD SC (Apple's original CD-ROM drive) for installation, and it worked fine. However, I needed to disable Sync Negotiation on the Adaptec, as recommended by the NeXTanswers note. With an AppleCD 300 (which I got later), I could enable Synch Negotiation. If you're shopping for a new CD-ROM drive, you should definitely consider a double-speed drive like the AppleCD 300; the installation with the older CD SC was *very* slow. CONFIGURING THE SERIAL PORTS As shipped, my Gateway has a Microsoft serial mouse that connects to a 9-pin connector on the back labeled COM2. NEXTSTEP requires the serial mouse to be connected to COM1. Here's the story: the 9-pin connector, as shipped, is connected to COMA (one of two serial connectors, along with COMB, on the motherboard). Althought the Phoenix BIOS Setup program allows you to specify the port connected to COMA and the port connected to COMB, COMA can only be configured as COM1 or COM3, while COMB can only be configured as COM2 or COM4. This means that, to make the 9-pin connector COM1, I needed to --switch the cables connected to COMA and COMB, so that COMA is connected to the 9-pin connector and COMB is connected to the 25-pin connector --use the Phoenix BIOS setup program to make COMA COM1 and use IRQ 4, and to make COMB COM2 and use IRQ 3 --change the switches on the back of my Gateway Telepath modem (formerly set to COM1) to make it COM3 and use IRQ 5. (Note that I couldn't use COM4 for the modem, because COM4 is apparently used by the Gateway video.) OTHER ROM BIOS CHANGES To install NEXTSTEP, the 3-1/2" floppy drive must be drive A. On my computer, this meant switching the floppy drive cables. There is conflicting information in NeXTanswers about whether the 5-1/4" drive can remain installed. It can on my system. IRQ CONFLICTS As shipped, the Gateway uses IRQ 1 and 2. NEXTSTEP requires you to use IRQ 3 for COM2 and IRQ 4 for COM1. This left IRQ 5 for the Gateway Telepath modem (the highest IRQ it can use). The Intel EtherExpress 16 Ethernet board I bought with the Gateway used IRQ 11. Because NEXTSTEP requires the Adaptec SCSI controller to use IRQ 11, I had to use another IRQ for the EtherExpress, but which one? The only other choices that that the EtherExpress setup software offers (besides IRQ 10; see below) are IRQs 3, 4, and 5, all of which are taken. A possible solution--which I'll try tomorrow--is to use a Logitech bus mouse, which will free up one of the COM ports and its IRQ for the modem. In the end, I was able to use IRQ 10 for the EtherExpress (I don't know what changed, but it works now with IRQ 10); I got the Logitech bus mouse (quite comfortable; it comes in right- and left-hand versions) and put it at IRQ 5; I got a new and much better modem (a Practical Peripherals 14400FX internal modem) and put it at COM1 and IRQ 4 (for which I had to disable the onboard COM1 with the Gateway's BIOS setup program). That leaves COM2 and IRQ 3 for connecting my Apple LaserWriter (today's project). CREATING A DOS PARTITION When NEXTSTEP asked whether I wanted to reserve a partition on the hard drive for DOS, I said yes. I later used the DOS format /v:MS-DOS /s command to format the partition for DOS. The /s switch makes the partition a bootable DOS disk. The label you give with the /v switch appears as the name of the DOS partition in the NEXTSTEP workspace. I then copied over all the files from my old DOS drive to the new partition using the Windows File Manager. When I booted DOS and Windows, I got the message that the Windows swap file was corrupted (with a mysterious message about the drive having the wrong format, even though I just formatted it). The easy way out is to open the Windows EMM386 control panel and get rid of the swap file (which you certainly don't need, now that you've bought all that extra memory for NEXTSTEP :-) PICKING A MOUSE AND CHOOSING MONITOR SETTINGS Although I have a Logitech bus mouse, NEXTSTEP seems to want you to use a PS/2 mouse instead. When you get to the Configure application during the installation, only the PS/2 mouse appears in the window, even though NEXTSTEP knows you have a bus mouse and is letting you use it. (The same thing is true if you're using a serial mouse; NEXTSTEP still only shows the PS/2 mouse in Configure.) You *can*, however, add the bus or serial mouse: click the Add button, and Bus Mouse and Serial Mouse appear in a new, bigger list of choices. You can also remove the PS/2 mouse while you're at it. If you don't choose the kind of mouse you're using in Configure (and you're not using a PS/2 mouse), your mouse won't work when you finish the installation. While you're in Configure, be sure to enable the Beep driver for sound. In addition, check the settings for your monitor. My monitor supports 1024 X 768 at 76Hz; the default in Configure was 60Hz, and I increased it to 76Hz. ----------------------------------------- Article 5490 (88 more) in comp.sys.next.hardware: From: sears@tree.egr.uh.edu (Paul S. Sears) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,com p.sys.next.bugs Subject: BUG FIX: Gateway2000 incompatability fix for model 4DX2-66V Date: 2 Jul 1993 23:45:26 GMT Organization: University of Houston Lines: 65 NNTP-Posting-Host: thanatos.egr.uh.edu (The rtf version includes a PostScript document that has a diagram of the location jumper that needs to be changed) Gateway2000 4DX2-66V Fix This the "official" fix from Gateway2000 concerning the problem with installing and running NEXTSTEP for Intel Processors version 3.1. The cause of the problem was that the PS2Mouse driver and the PS2Keyboard driver would not work with the newer versions of the BIOS that Micronics started shipping with a revised system board. Mainly it concerned the new Gateway ROM BIOS PLUS Version 0.10 GJX30-05E (but it also works for the earlier GJX30 versions). For NEXTSTEP for Intel Processors Release 3.1 to install correctly, the new Gateways V-Series systems must have the PS2 style keyboard jumper ENABLED. This jumper is not documented in the Gateway2000 Manuals as the PS2 style keyboard jumper, instead it is listed as W7 - "Reserved". Gateway ships these systems with the jumper disabled, and usually recommends leaving the jumper disabled for use with system and keyboard drivers. However, ou must change the W7 jumper to the "on" position (you will need to find a jumper to use or locate a spare one). The W7 jumper is located right next to the W40 jumper on the motherboard. See the diagram below. Micronics (Motherboard OEM for Gateway) is currently running NEXTSTEP on a new Gateway with the W7 jumper changed. This setup has worked with both serial and bus mice. NeXT's Quality Assurance group is testing this fix now. [This has been tested and verified at the University of Houston with the GJX30-01D verion of the BIOS.] **** The PS2Mouse driver must be loaded for this to work. If [and only if!!] you followed my earlier installation notes, you were told to remove the PS2Mouse driver from the file /usr/Devices/System.config/Instance0.table which was in the line "Boot Drivers". A simple way to do this is to run the Configure.app located in /NextApps and click on "save". The configure.app will automatically add the PS2Mouse driver to the Instance0.table file. Powerdown, then add the jumper and reboot. No need to mess with the turbo switch or anything, it should come up in NEXTSTEP automatically. To quickly verify if your keyboard will work, check if the NUM-Lock LED is off. If it is not, then your keyboard WILL NOT work. The W7 jumper is located next to the first LocalBus slot near the right-back end of the system board. This diagram is for the Desktop configuration only. The jumper may be located in a different location if you have a tower case. -- Paul S. Sears * sears@uh.edu (NeXT Mail OK) The University of Houston * suggestions@tree.egr.uh.edu (NeXT Engineering Computing Center * comments, complaints, questions) NeXT System Administration * DoD#1967 '83 NightHawk 650SC >>> SSI Diving Certification #755020059 <<< "Programming is like sex: One mistake and you support it a lifetime."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc From: dave@einstein.andi.org (David Scheck) Subject: ** help ** NS/486 wont mount DOS partition Message-ID: <CAJpM8.1G3@nextsrv1.andi.org> Followup-To: dscheck@nextsrv1.andi.org Keywords: DOS nextstep mount Sender: usenet@nextsrv1.andi.org (usenet) Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1993 02:58:53 GMT I finally installed NS486 on my clone Vesa/EISA/ISA motherboard. I did run into problems though. Can anyone tell me what are the solutions? 1) "INTR: dropped IRQ 7" is constantly written to the display on bootup. 2) Floppy controller was having problems & had to retry for about 5 minutes before the first install option was given. 3) I cannot seem to get the DOS partition automounted in Workspace??? Has anyone seen these problems and knows what is wrong?? Please reply to David Scheck dscheck@nextsrv1.andi.org (703) 620-8258
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: Aris Theocharides <aris@foucault.maths.mu.OZ.AU> Subject: hiding MENU only Message-ID: <9320313.13872@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> Keywords: menu Sender: news@cs.mu.OZ.AU Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1993 03:32:54 GMT Does anyone know how to hide a menu (say on Terminal.app) and yet leave the rest of the windows displayed? In the case of Terminal.app leaving all the shell windows up. Dragging the dock all the way down then leave lots of space to work in. Aris Theocharides <aris@foucault.maths.mu.OZ.AU> -- name: aris theocharides. address: room mg14, maths dept, melb uni, parkville, vic, australia, 3052. phone [+613] uni: 344.74.16, home: 489.90.14, fax: 344.45.99 e.mail: aris@foucault.maths.mu.OZ.AU (NeXTmail)
Control: cancel <9320313.13872@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: aris@foucault.maths.mu.OZ.AU (Aris Theocharides) Subject: cmsg cancel <9320313.13872@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> Message-ID: <9320315.17002@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> Sender: news@cs.mu.OZ.AU Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1993 05:12:26 GMT 31281 cancelled from NewsGrazer. -- name: aris theocharides. address: room mg14, maths dept, melb uni, parkville, vic, australia, 3052. phone [+613] uni: 344.74.16, home: 489.90.14, fax: 344.45.99
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: b_brottier@cubx.com Subject: Re: Canon hardware deal/NS on PPC --> Marketing in Europe Message-ID: <1993Jul22.100636.939@cubx.com> Sender: news@cubx.com Organization: Cub'x Systemes - Rueil Malmaison, France. References: <22h0ve$7sh@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1993 10:06:36 GMT In article <22h0ve$7sh@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> cs438@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Denis Lafont) writes: | [deleted] | | NeXTSTEP must be aggressively market, and NeXT, and only NeXT must do the job. | | They lost the hardware market because of this lack of marketing (in europe). | It will be probably the same with the hardware in Japan, and with | the software in Europe and (maybe) in the us. | | Thanks, | | Denis | | -- Denis, your lips are gold ! You're definitely RIGHT ! See my post in c.s.n.advocacy... NeXT always thought that local dealers should do all the job, spend all the money spent in marketing here in France. But in fact, people wants to know that NeXT Inc is alive, and happy to know that three distributors and 20 Resellers want to fulfill their needs. They don't care of only NeXT Europe, with nobody speaking french, local VAD and VARS. NeXT Europe will hire a marketing manager devoted to NS in France. I'm waiting for that guy, as if it was a prophet. (Not God himself ;-) Denis, let's hope ! BB --------------------------- Bruno Brottier -- Responsable Formation -- Training Manager Societe improve sa, 41-41 bis, avenue de l'Europe - 78140 VELIZY - FRANCE Tel : (+33) (1) 30 70 60 56 Fax : (+33) (1) 30 70 89 36 E-mail: b_brottier@cubx.com -- [NeXTmail]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: yogi@csa.cs.technion.ac.il (Yossi Gil) Subject: Information on Steve Jobs? Organization: Technion, Israel Institute of Technology Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1993 12:23:11 GMT Message-ID: <yogi.743343791@csa> Sender: news@wang.com I am looking for information (electronic or other) on the early days of S.J in apple startup. Any help would be greatly appreciated! -- Joseph (Yossi) Gil yogi@TECHSEL.BITNET The Faculty of Computer Science yogi@cs.technion.ac.il Technion -- Israel Institute of Technology Tel: +972-4-29-4265 Technion City, Haifa 32000, Israel Fax: +972-4-29-4353
From: jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Joseph W Reiss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Better Grays out of the NLP Date: 22 Jul 1993 14:03:50 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <22m6o6$eq4@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> References: <CAFJp2.AKz@world.std.com> <1993Jul20.222549.3842@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> Sherwood@fenris.space.ualberta.ca (System Administrator) wrote... >Chris Lloyd (lloyd@world.std.com) wrote: >: Has anyone come up with a way to get nicer looking grayscales out of the >: NeXT Laser Printer? The Default ones look like crud, the dots in the >: half-tone patterns are huge-ola. > >You can play with the setscreen command. To do this you need to hack >the postcript code. The default screen frequency on the Next is 50 or >60 dpi. This produces a dither cell that is 8 pixels on a side. The >pixels however when printed are much larger than 1/400 of an inch, so >the light grey part of the picture is darker than it should be, and >blacks are blotted out. > >By hacking the setscreen command, you are trading fewer grey tones for >higher resolution. I find that I like the results best with either an >80 dpi or a 100 dpi resolution. With the latter, I will run the bitmap >through a contrast enhancement filter first. > >The hack: >100 0 {180 mul cos exch 180 mul cos add 2 div} setscreen >Put this line after the scale and translate commands. > > >The first two parameters are screen frequency, and screen angle. >For explanations of the stuff in the {} see the adobe documentation. > >Recommended for fiddling around with bitmaps is Jef Poskanzer's pbmplus >suite of programs. Available on sonata, if not, then mail me. Two things... First, for a novice, what file am I looking at to be piddling with these commands? Might be a stupid question, but... Second, has anyone tried modifying the NLPHalftone.ps file in an effort to get better grays? It sets up a 16x16 halftone pattern, but it only uses an 8x8 pattern and repeats that four times. Oh, there are some tiny variations, plus or minus one out of 256 possible settings. But it's not enough that I would think it would create a very noticeable difference. How much, if any, improvement could be obtained by tweaking this dither matrix? Joe -- __________ | NeXTMail accepted, but not preferred | |___) | """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" \_/OE | \EISS | Real programmers don't each quiche. They eat Twinkies `---- | and fast food washed down with caffeinated beverages.
From: kurhajet@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Robert Kurhajetz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Question on MIME-compliance with NeXTmail Message-ID: <39892@oasys.dt.navy.mil> Date: 22 Jul 93 14:44:28 GMT Distribution: na Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD Hello I am trying to track down the current status of reading and/or writing MIME-compliant mail with NeXtmail under NS3.0. I remember seeing alot of traffic on this issue about 2 months ago and did not hear the final verdict on this. Our status on this is that we have SGI's running Rapport from Clarity Software and they currently are in the process of adding MIME-compliance in to their product. Thanks in advance. Bob Kurhajetz US Navy CD NSWC Code 3410 Bethesda, MD 20084 NeXTmail rk@priscilla.dt.navy.mil
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: lorinr@altsys.com (Lorin Rivers III) Subject: Re: Font help needed !!!! Message-ID: <1993Jul22.152253.27475@altsys.com> Organization: Altsys Corporation, Richardson, TX References: <22kgsu$q4o@lll-winken.llnl.gov> Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1993 15:22:53 GMT In article <22kgsu$q4o@lll-winken.llnl.gov> borchers@llnl.gov writes: >Does anyone know a utility, or in general, how to convert a font FROM the >NeXT TO a Mac? I can find all kinds of converters going the other way. Bob > >-- >Robert R. Borchers >L-414 >Livermore, Ca 94551 >borchers@llnl.gov >NeXTmail Welcome Fontographer 4.0 for Macintosh will open most (but not all) NeXT fonts. That's the only thing I could suggest... -- Lorin Rivers Lorin_Rivers@altsys.com Altsys Technical Support 214.680.2518 269 W. Renner Parkway NeXT Mail Expected Richardson, Texas 75080 I said it, not my boss
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: khw2x@sonja.math.Virginia.EDU (Kevin H. Weiss) Subject: Need Help with Emacs.app under emacs-19.16 Message-ID: <CAKqJy.7FH@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU Organization: University of Virginia Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1993 16:16:45 GMT Dear emacs gurus, I recently upgraded to emacs-19.16 from emacs-18.56. Now I seem to have some trouble with Emacs.app. In particular, I now get the error Active processes exist; kill them and exit anyway? (yes or no) whenever I try to quit, whether there's anything going or not. What needs to be fixed? HELP! Note: emacs from the command line doesn't have this problem. I'm running all of this under NeXTSTEP3.0 -------------------------------------------------------------- Kevin Weiss Department of Mathematics khw2x@sonja.math.Virginia.edu (NeXT mail) University of Virginia khw2x@virginia.edu (Non-NeXT mail)
From: zmonster@athena.mit.edu (Eric M Hermanson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Canon hardware deal/NS on PPC --> Marketing in Europe Message-ID: <22mg2s$2b8@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Date: 22 Jul 93 16:43:08 GMT References: <22h0ve$7sh@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> <1993Jul22.100636.939@cubx.com> Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology In article <1993Jul22.100636.939@cubx.com> b_brottier@cubx.com writes: >In article <22h0ve$7sh@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> cs438@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Denis >Lafont) writes: >| NeXTSTEP must be aggressively market, and NeXT, and only NeXT must do the >job. >| They lost the hardware market because of this lack of marketing (in europe). >Denis, your lips are gold ! >You're definitely RIGHT ! >See my post in c.s.n.advocacy... >NeXT always thought that local dealers should do all the job, spend all the >money spent in marketing here in France. I believe that NeXT marketing in Europe will be handled in part by Canon. I recieved a response from people at NeXT to my question about who handles Australian educational sales (i.e. contact people). What follows is the email, and it looks like Europe is a very important market seeing as who else recieved this email: **Forwarded Letter that I recived from an employee at NeXT who answered my Q: From: Bernhard_Woebker (Bernhard Woebker) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 93 16:38:34 +0200 To: Eric_Bragg Subject: The Aussies are getting restless Cc: sjobs, bernhard_Woebker, martin_york, james_higa Hi Eric, Australia is part of the territory we are discussing with Canon. In the last ET meeting we decided to hold off on the "Canon countries" until we have reached closure with them. Ingram Micro and NACSCORP are not allowed to sell outside North America. The best is to point all of these request to Canon to put some pressure on them. Bernhard
From: cedman@golem.ps.uci.edu (Carl Edman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Need Help with Emacs.app under emacs-19.16 Message-ID: <CEDMAN.93Jul22101902@golem.uci.edu> Date: 22 Jul 93 17:19:08 GMT References: <CAKqJy.7FH@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> In-reply-to: khw2x@sonja.math.Virginia.EDU's message of Thu, 22 Jul 1993 16:16:45 GMT In article <CAKqJy.7FH@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> khw2x@sonja.math.Virginia.EDU (Kevin H. Weiss) writes: I recently upgraded to emacs-19.16 from emacs-18.56. Now I seem to have some trouble with Emacs.app. In particular, I now get the error Active processes exist; kill them and exit anyway? (yes or no) whenever I try to quit, whether there's anything going or not. What needs to be fixed? HELP! Note: emacs from the command line doesn't have this problem. I'm running all of this under NeXTSTEP3.0 Fixed in 3.1 (Emacs 3.1, that is). In the meantime you can alter lisp/eterm-low.el from the Emacs-3.0 distribution. In the function start-event-server add this line after the (setq eserver ...) line. (process-kill-without-query eserver) Then re-install Emacs.app. Of course you could always just reply "yes" to the prompt. Other packages also show this problem -- eg. ispell. Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: sherwood@fenris.space.ualberta.ca (System Administrator) Subject: Re: RECOMMENDATION: Printing Large Documents Message-ID: <1993Jul22.175119.16401@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada References: <1993Jul21.204758.12392@kynug.org> Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1993 17:51:19 GMT Neil Greene (neil@kynug.org) wrote: : I have a large document I need to have printed from FrameMaker, front and : back. What recommendations does anyone have to accomplish this?? : I remember seeing a script posted a few weeks ago that would take a : postscript file and allow the printing of every other page or some weird : algorithm to accomplish this. : -- : Neil Greene : President, benchMark Developments, Inc. [NeXT VAR] : President, Kentucky NeXT User Group, Inc. : North American, TIFFany Distributor There are scripts to do this, but if you are thinking of printing all the evens on the back of the odds, don't. Next printers are not designed to have sheets of paper with black stuff on the bottom running past the fuser roller. Some of the stuff comes off on the second pass through. Your best bet is to print normally, then go to a copy center, hand them the stack, and ask for it to be printed simplex->duplex. It will cost you about 5-6 cents per page (similar to what operating your next printer costs) and will save you a bunch of aggravation. -- => Sherwood Botsford sherwood@space.ualberta.ca <= => University of Alberta Lab Manager, Space Physics Group <= => tel:403 492-3713 fax: 403 492-4256 <=
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: sherwood@fenris.space.ualberta.ca (System Administrator) Subject: Corel Fonts on Next? Message-ID: <1993Jul22.183126.18028@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1993 18:31:26 GMT We have Corel Draw running on our PC's. At present we cannot use the Corel postscript fonts, as the Next barfs on any job that includes them. I've tried porting the fonts to the next, but it appears that they are in binary. Does anyone have a receipe for making a Corel Font usable on a Next? -- => Sherwood Botsford sherwood@space.ualberta.ca <= => University of Alberta Lab Manager, Space Physics Group <= => tel:403 492-3713 fax: 403 492-4256 <=
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: chuck@benatong.com (Charles G. Bennett) Subject: Re: Lightening Strikes Athena Design Message-ID: <1993Jul21.035613.5580@cypher.cmhnet.org> Sender: chuck@cypher.cmhnet.org Organization: BenaTong, inc. References: <22eeb8$mvi@hermes.athena.com> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1993 03:56:13 GMT In article <22eeb8$mvi@hermes.athena.com> dpp@athena.com (David Pollak) writes: > Howdy, > > The chances of being struck by lightening are better than winning the lottery. > Athena Design was struck by lightening. It toasted our phone system, our fax > machine, our 10 Base T hubs, and our NetInfo/File server. We recovered > everything except the motherboard in the NetInfo/File server (a 25Mhz '040 > Cube) is flaky. We are looking for an '040 motherboard with no RAM, but will > settle for an '040 cube. Anybody have something to sell? > > Thanks. > > David You ought to consider an APC UPS. They have a two year equipment replacement guarantee that mentions protection agains direct lightning strikes. Should be fun to see them replace a NeXTSTATION AH Haaa. I just realized how to get the NeXT factory back on line :-) Actually there is a dollar limit, but it is still a good deal. Chuck -- Chuck Bennett Karnak the Great: "The answer is Rin Tin Tin, Lassie, Windows NT" The Question is, "Name two movie stars and a Dog.." chuck@benatong.com
From: jmd@cube.handheld.com (Jim De Arras) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Postscript printing to Epson or IBM pro over NetWare? Date: 22 Jul 1993 19:24:32 GMT Organization: Hand Held Products, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <22mphgINN3eb@clem.handheld.com> Has anyone figured out how to print to one of the two supported non-postscript printers that the NeXT rasters for over Novell NetWare? Jim -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jim De Arras - WA4ONG | "Government is not reason; it is not eloquence; NRA,ILA | it is a force. Like fire, it is a dangerous jmd@handheld.com | servant and a fearful master." -- George Washington
From: jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Joseph W Reiss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Need Help with Emacs.app under emacs-19.16 Date: 22 Jul 1993 19:41:48 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <22mqhs$fgn@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> References: <CAKqJy.7FH@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> <CEDMAN.93Jul22101902@golem.uci.edu> Cedman@golem.ps.uci.edu (Carl Edman) wrote... >In article <CAKqJy.7FH@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> khw2x@sonja.math.Virginia.EDU (Kevin H. Weiss) writes: > I recently upgraded to emacs-19.16 from emacs-18.56. Now I seem to > have some trouble with Emacs.app. In particular, I now get the error > > Active processes exist; kill them and exit anyway? (yes or no) > > whenever I try to quit, whether there's anything going or not. > >Fixed in 3.1 (Emacs 3.1, that is). In the meantime you can alter >lisp/eterm-low.el from the Emacs-3.0 distribution. In the function >start-event-server add this line after the (setq eserver ...) line. > > (process-kill-without-query eserver) > >Then re-install Emacs.app. Thanks! I've been constantly annoyed by that same thing myself. Now, what's this about Emacs 3.1? Where can we find this, or is it still pre-release? Don't tempt us like this! It's not nice! Joe :-) -- __________ | NeXTMail accepted, but not preferred | |___) | """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" \_/OE | \EISS | Real programmers don't write in Basic. Actually, no `---- | programmers write in Basic after the age of 12.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: jon@afs.com Subject: Re: NextStep for PowerPC chips? Message-ID: <1993Jul22.142830.1767@afs.com> Sender: jon@afs.com References: <22kqvr$alb@transfer.stratus.com> Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1993 14:28:30 GMT In article <22kqvr$alb@transfer.stratus.com> bbeckwit@carrock.hw.stratus.com (Bob Beckwith) writes: >| Avie is very smart and does a lot of good work, but comments like this only >serve as a slap in the face to all the other very smart and hardworking folks >NeXT has working for them.I understand that you probably didn't intend it this >way, but this is, in essence, what you've done to those "quiet few" at NEXT >that do read this group. Please try and be more considerate in the future. You are very, very right, and I didn't mean to imply that he's the only talented individual working on the ports. (Unfortunately, I don't know the names of more people or I would have mentioned some more.) But it could certainly tax anyone's abilities to be supervising and working with the other very talented individuals on three, four, or five simultaneous ports. < Sorry to those folks at NeXT who took this the wrong way. I'll buy you folks a case (beer, Jolt, or Snapple, your choice) at Expo next year :) I swear!> -- Jon Hendry It's a thousand classes, give or take a few, <jon@afs.com> I'll be writing more in a week or two. I can make it deeper if you like the style, I can change it round and I want to be an ObjectWare Writer
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: greg@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson) Subject: Re: NextStep for PowerPC chips? Message-ID: <1993Jul22.143816.5357@afs.com> Sender: greg@afs.com References: <22kqvr$alb@transfer.stratus.com> Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1993 14:38:16 GMT In article <1993Jul21.214820.1399@afs.com> jon@afs.com writes: > >Unfortunately, the latest NeXTWorld's rumor column says that all ports > >other than the HP port are on hold until they get Intel going well and > >HP done. > >[munch] > >There's only one Avadis Tevanian, after all. To which Bob Beckwith replied: > Avie is very smart and does a lot of good work, but comments like this > only serve as a slap in the face to all the other very smart and > hardworking folks NeXT has working for them. I understand that you > probably didn't intend it this way, but this is, in essence, what you've > done to those "quiet few" at NEXT that do read this group. Please try > and be more considerate in the future. I'll just step in here and defend Jon for a moment by saying: 1) He always has the best of intentions, and certainly did not mean to demean any of our fine friends at NeXT; 2) Avie's JOB is to be in charge of porting (you could look it up); 3) Almost everyone at NeXT reads the Net; a "quiet few" write back. None have written to Jon complaining about his comments. The fact is, Avie would probably be responsible for ports to other platforms at this point. It's understandable why NeXT wouldn't want to spread him too thin or have too many ports going simultaneously. -- Gregory H. Anderson | "History is the fiction we invent to Revisionist Autobiographer | persuade ourselves that events are Anderson Financial Systems | knowable and that life has order and greg@afs.com (NeXTmail OK) | direction." -- Calvin & Hobbes, 7/19/93
From: hans@symbas.UUCP (Hans Aafloy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: webster weirdness! Message-ID: <3823@symbas.UUCP> Date: 22 Jul 93 13:43:55 GMT References: <1993Jul19.184106.16996@liberty.uc.wlu.edu> Organization: Symbiotic Computer Systems A/S, Trondheim, Norway In article <1993Jul19.184106.16996@liberty.uc.wlu.edu> tmurdoch@liberty.uc.wlu.edu (Tim Murdoch) writes: > >What do YOU get when you search on "neil" in Webster in NS3.0? >-- >Tim Murdoch You must use sir-names, not christian-names. I.e. "armstrong" yields e.g. Neil Armstrong ( that canadian Mars-guy ) Hans
From: glenn@rightbrain.com (Glenn Reid) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Canon hardware deal/NS on PPC --> Marketing in Europe Message-ID: <1278@rtbrain.rightbrain.com> Date: 22 Jul 93 21:54:03 GMT References: <22mg2s$2b8@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Sender: glenn@rightbrain.com Eric M Hermanson writes > I believe that NeXT marketing in Europe will be handled in part by Canon. > I recieved a response from people at NeXT to my question about who handles > Australian educational sales (i.e. contact people). [some rationale that since Australia is part of Canon's territory, Europe must be too]. Eric, First of all, it is rarely if ever appropriate to post the contents of someone's Email to you (the helpful person at NeXT who answered your query). Second, Canon has traditionally had rights to the "Pacific" market, including Asia, Japan, Singapore, and probably Australia and New Zealand. If you look carefully at your globe, you'll see that Australia is not part of Europe, nor even particularly nearby. They are different markets, and Canon will not (as far as I know) be participating in the European market. I think you drew an erroneous conclusion from the mail about Australia. -- Glenn Reid NeXTmail: glenn@rightbrain.com RightBrain Software 415-326-2974 (NeXTfax 326-2977) Palo Alto, California Electronic Frontier Foundation, member #054
From: dmb@xbar.ai.mit.edu (David Baggett) Newsgroups: rec.games.int-fiction,rec.games.misc,comp.sys.mac.games,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.adventure,comp.sys.atari.st,comp.sys.dec,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.os.linux,rec.games.programmer Subject: The Unnkulian Unventures: Now with Oat Bran! Followup-To: rec.games.int-fiction Date: 23 Jul 1993 02:33:04 GMT Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Laboratory Message-ID: <22nil0INNcpc@life.ai.mit.edu> Summary: Unnkulia One-Half and Unnkulia Zero available now! Keywords: text adventures interactive fiction unnkulian unventure games [New this time: Unnkulia Zero is now available for Macintoshes!] The Unnkulian Unventure Series Adventure Games for the 90's Remember the good old days, when adventure games challenged you with great puzzles and evocative descriptions without resorting to any graphics at all? We really miss that emphasis on gameplay rather than glitz, so we've decided to write our own adventure games along the lines of the early text games we liked so much. If you're looking for top-quality interactive fiction comparable to 1980's commercial offerings, check out the Unnkulian Unventure series, available from an archive site near you! In _Unnkulian Underworld: The Unknown Unventure_ you play the part of Kuulest's slave, and must recover the Orb of Studosity from the evil Unnkulians. Kuulest, the old geezebag, has died and left you with nothing to go on but a cryptic message about saving the planet. You'll encounter amazing Acme products, the infamous Guardian, those witty creatures known as Drolls, a giant beaver, and even the Dread Unnkulian Warrior. <Gasp!> In _Unnkulian Unventure II: The Secret of Acme_ your adventure continues as you try to create some good press for yourself -- wouldn't want to fade into anonymous obscurity, now would you? Along the way, you'll find the answers to these compelling questions, and more: o What happened to the Unnkulians? o Why are Acme products so bad? o What is this cheez stuff, really? Plus, you'll get to explore Dawg Rock, a Duhdist Retreat, Acme's clandestine prototypes laboratory, and even pay a visit to Acme HQ. In _Unnkulia One-Half: The Salesman Triumphant_, you'll play the role of a down-and-out Acme salesman, forced to work out of the Golden Dragon Inn, dangerously near Dread Unnkulia. Will you accumulate enough loot in this frightful backwater berg to turn your fortunes in your favor? And, in _Unnkulia Zero: The Search for Amanda_, will you, the Valley King's most trusted warrior, rescue his Lady Amanda from the gruesome clutches of the evil Unnkulians? Along the way to victory (or, <shudder>, defeat!), you will: o Find out about the ancient days of the Valley, o Meet the King's faithful (but not so bright) Valley Patrol, o Explore *beautiful* Lake Draounheer, o Discover the ancient burial ground of your ancestors, o Become frustrated with the pesky Stoll and his Stoll Bridge, and, of course, o Meet that wondrously wacky Wowsa Willy! The Unnkulian Unventures have already gotten rave reviews from numerous adventure game connoisseurs around the world, so why not give them a try? The games are available for FTP from the if-archive at ftp.gmd.de. (Note that the site wuarchive.wustl.edu keeps a mirror of the if-archive in the mirrors directory.) PC and compatibles (running DOS): --------------------------------- if-archive/games/adventions/pc/unnk1v30.zip if-archive/games/adventions/pc/unnk2v30.zip if-archive/games/adventions/pc/unnkhz10.zip Macintosh: ---------- if-archive/games/adventions/mac/unnk1v30.sit.bin if-archive/games/adventions/mac/unnk2v30.sit.bin if-archive/games/adventions/mac/unnkhz10.sit.bin (These are MacBinary files.) if-archive/games/adventions/mac/unnk1v30.sit.hqx if-archive/games/adventions/mac/unnk2v30.sit.hqx if-archive/games/adventions/mac/unnkhz10.sit.hqx (These are Binhexed Stuffit 1.5.1 files.) Others: ------- TADS now runs on lots of different systems. Because of this, we have TADS .GAM-file only archives that can be used with any machine that runs TADS. The tricky bit is that before you can play the games, you need to get the TADS run-time for your machine. Fortunately, this isn't hard to do. Just grab the TADS executable package for your machine from the if-archive: Atari ST/TT/Falcon: if-archive/programming/tads/atari.tads2exe.arc Sun Sparcstation (SunOS): if-archive/programming/tads/sparc.tads2exe.tar.Z Sun 3: if-archive/programming/tads/sun3.tads2exe.tar.Z DECstation (MIPS) running Ultrix: if-archive/programming/tads/decmips.tads2exe.tar.Z SGI (Iris/Indigo) running Irix: if-archive/programming/tads/sgi-irix.tads2exe.tar.Z Linux (386): if-archive/programming/tads/linux.tads2exe.tar.Z NeXT: if-archive/programming/tads/NeXT.tads2exe.tar.Z Amiga, other Unix: In the works! Once you have TADS running on your system, you can get the games: if-archive/games/adventions/others/uu1v301.tar.Z if-archive/games/adventions/others/uu2v30.tar.Z if-archive/games/adventions/others/unnkhz10.tar.Z The file How-To-Run-These-Games in the same directory gives your more information. NOTE: The source to TADS 2 is not distributable. However, if your machine isn't on the list yet, and you would like to volunteer to port TADS 2 to it, send email about it to Mike Roberts <mroberts@hinrg.starconn.com>. Porting to Unix-like systems is fairly trivial. *-----------------------------------------------------------------------------* Unnkulian Unventures I and II are shareware ($10 registration fee each); registering gets you spiffy maps and agony-sparing hint sheets. Unnkulia One-Half is free -- don't pay us for it! Unnkulia Zero is US$25 and is available via mail order from ADVENTIONS or via phone (credit card order) through High Energy Software. Unnkulia One-Half comes with a playable demo of Unnkulia Zero, which includes information on how to order the complete version. Happy adventioning! Dave Baggett ADVENTIONS Internet: dmb@ai.mit.edu Compuserve: 76440,2671 GEnie: ADVENTIONS A Word About TADS ----------------- We at ADVENTIONS use a programming language called TADS to write our games. TADS is a product of High Energy Software, and you can get it via FTP. TADS (and TADS goodies) are available for many systems from ftp.gmd.de. Look in the if-archive/programming/tads directory. TADS is also shareware, and we strongly encourage you to register it if you use it, since we feel it is a powerful, innovative, and very inexpensive development system that deserves to be paid for. __ dmb@ai.mit.edu Boot up, log in, drop out. MIT AI Lab ADVENTIONS: We make Kuul text adventures! Ask about Unnkulian 1, 2, 0, 1/2 PO Box 851 Columbia, MD 21044 USA / CIS: 76440,2671 / GEnie: ADVENTIONS
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: jblue@ocotillo.mitre.org (Jason D. Blue) Subject: Re: webster weirdness! Message-ID: <1993Jul22.143016.18706@linus.mitre.org> Sender: news@linus.mitre.org (News Service) Organization: The MITRE Corporation References: <1993Jul20.174820.6278@trimark.com> Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1993 14:30:16 GMT Another cool index error is a search on "virginiapolytechnicinstandstate". Jason In article <1993Jul20.174820.6278@trimark.com> shayman@Trimark.com writes: > Hey gang, the Webster index has had bugs in it since at least release 0.9. > (F'rinstance look up "test" or any 4 letter word that ends in "est"). > > It's not really news when you find something that's mis-indexed. (What > would be news if you found an old indexing error that had been corrected!) > > Regards, > steve > > P.S. yes I have reported the "test" indexing bug, at least 4 times. -- Jason D. Blue NeXT Network and Systems Administrator The MITRE Corporation, McLean, VA jblue@mitre.org (NeXT Mail Encouraged!) TIP#081
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: bruce@TotSysSoft.com (Bruce Gingery) Subject: Re: Dimming Display on Cube Message-ID: <1993Jul23.044107.697@ToTSySSoft.com> Sender: news@ToTSySSoft.com Organization: Total System Software References: <22gv6c$e87@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1993 04:41:07 GMT In article <22gv6c$e87@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> cmc@ltp.bcm.tmc.edu (Costa Colbert) writes: -> -> The display on my cube at work is getting dimmer by the week. -> -> Can the monitors be fixed ? By whom ? How much ? Can you do it yourself ? -> This may be a FAQ by now. Sorry if it is... -> -> Costa Colbert The monitor can have new electrodes placed into the tube but CAUTION the same glass is used by other monitors requiring a higher voltage. Be sure the CORRECT ones are installed. Bruce Gingery bruce@TotSysSoft.com Total System Software the makers of DFax for NEXTSTEP
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: bruce@TotSysSoft.com (Bruce Gingery) Subject: Gateway shipped CDROM? Message-ID: <1993Jul23.044714.768@ToTSySSoft.com> Keywords: FIP,Gateway,2000,CD,CDROM,ide Sender: news@ToTSySSoft.com Organization: Total System Software Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1993 04:47:14 GMT Can FIP access the CD-ROM drive which is the ``default'' setup shipped for NEXTSTEP from Gateway? It appears to be IDE. Bruce Gingery bruce@TotSysSoft.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: bruce@TotSysSoft.com (Bruce Gingery) Subject: Re: webster weirdness! (The TRUTH is revealed) Message-ID: <1993Jul23.045519.832@ToTSySSoft.com> Sender: news@ToTSySSoft.com Organization: Total System Software References: <1993Jul21.140853.7205@news.uta.edu> Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1993 04:55:19 GMT In article <1993Jul21.140853.7205@news.uta.edu> phoskins@arrinext.uta.edu (Paul Hoskins) writes: [snip] -> neil is just short for "newyorkcofenvironmentalsciencea" -> which is the name for -> New York C. of Environmental Science and Forestry, ->State U. of Syracuse Yet in the Compact Dictionary, a lookup for prefix OR whole word for neil gives... Correction? neck
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: kaya@trystero.com (Kaya Bekiroglu) Subject: Re: Information on Steve Jobs? Message-ID: <CALIpE.2uw@trystero.com> Organization: The Trystero System (617) 625-7155 v.32/v.42bis References: <yogi.743343791@csa> Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1993 02:24:47 GMT In article <yogi.743343791@csa> yogi@csa.cs.technion.ac.il (Yossi Gil) writes: >I am looking for information (electronic or other) on the >early days of S.J in apple startup. > >Any help would be greatly appreciated! You could try _Steve Jobs - The Journey Is The Reward_ by Jeffrey S. Young. Lynx Books, NY; ISBN 1-55802-378-X; $4.95, 467pgs. This book is very detailed, with lots of quotes and references. This is the only SJ book I've read; basically it tells about Steve's arrogance, drive, et cetera - it kind of casts him in a bad light. > >-- >Joseph (Yossi) Gil yogi@TECHSEL.BITNET >The Faculty of Computer Science yogi@cs.technion.ac.il >Technion -- Israel Institute of Technology Tel: +972-4-29-4265 >Technion City, Haifa 32000, Israel Fax: +972-4-29-4353 -- kaya bekiroglu >|< "Help! I'm trapped in a computer factory!" kaya@trystero.com <|> "Then hit the 'escape' key, you fool!"
From: ccwf@gg.caltech.edu (Charles Fu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Better Grays out of the NLP (long) Date: 23 Jul 1993 10:59:47 GMT Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena Message-ID: <22ogb3INN5eg@gap.caltech.edu> References: <CAFJp2.AKz@world.std.com> <1993Jul20.222549.3842@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> <22m6o6$eq4@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> >Sherwood@fenris.space.ualberta.ca (System Administrator) wrote... >>Chris Lloyd (lloyd@world.std.com) wrote: >>: Has anyone come up with a way to get nicer looking grayscales out of the >>: NeXT Laser Printer? The Default ones look like crud, the dots in the >>: half-tone patterns are huge-ola. >> >>You can play with the setscreen command. Getting to know the setscreen command is certainly worthwhile. It is quite versatile, and the determination of the best screen for a given picture is still largely a matter of intuition/trial-and-error (there is no surefire algorithm). Since the screen uses DPS, you can also use setscreen to affect the way the screen dithers images. (Some people using scientific apps have complained about wanting to turn off dithering of colors in graphs and so forth. This can be done with the setscreen operator.) See the Red book, _Adobe Accurate Screens_, _Digital Halftoning_, and many recent theses for more than you ever wanted to know about the esoteric art of screens. However, for _most_ pictures (not all--no single algorithm works best for all pictures), I find that the best looking results on the NLP are achieved by scaling up the number of dots in the picture by 400/current DPI with a good scaling algorithm, setting the DPI to 400, error-diffusing the picture to black and white, and printing the error-diffused result. The halftone screen will, of course, not matter if you use this algorithm since half tone screens don't affect black and white images. The same goes for other non-continuous tone printers with 400 replaced by whatever the appropriate DPI is for that printer. This will produce especially good results if you are concerned with small details or banding. Also, note that the gamma of the screen and the printer are not the same. Therefore, as I am sure you have already noticed, an intermediate gray value on the screen probably won't look the same as when printed (this is supposed to be better for some images under 3.x). Depending on the screen or error-diffusion used, your grays may look lighter or darker than you might expect. This is most easily fixed with a gamma correction filter, although this is not the "best" way to do it if you are concerned with ultra-high image quality (the best way is to play around with the setscreen operator or hand code an error-diffusion to come up with an algorithm which implicitly incorporates your desired gamma). -ccwf Charles C. Fu Computer Consultant and "Imaging Expert" :-) a principle author of Pixel Magician author of Pixel Magician's error-diffusion routines P.S. Although the algorithm above will produce fantastic looking results from a linotronic, the linotronic output is not the final result. What happens to lino output usually destroys all high res information so that error-diffusion, while usually not harmful in this case, will result in needless extra CPU time for the printer. This wasn't what you were asking, but I thought it might be interesting, and I wanted to provide an example where the above algorithm wasn't the way to go. -- _______________________________________________________________________________ Charles C. Fu |Send replies to Consultant at Large | ccwf@gg.caltech.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: tacchi@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Mark G. Tacchi) Subject: Re: Gateway shipped CDROM? Message-ID: <CAMEL1.9on@ccu.umanitoba.ca> Keywords: FIP,Gateway,2000,CD,CDROM,ide Sender: news@ccu.umanitoba.ca Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada References: <1993Jul23.044714.768@ToTSySSoft.com> Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1993 13:53:24 GMT In <1993Jul23.044714.768@ToTSySSoft.com> bruce@TotSysSoft.com (Bruce Gingery) writes: >Can FIP access the CD-ROM drive which is the ``default'' >setup shipped for NEXTSTEP from Gateway? It appears to be >IDE. If it is IDE, it will not work. When ordering a system from Gateway, make sure that you tell them it is for NEXTSTEP. I was under the impression that they ship SCSI CD internally and the Adaptec card. There would be no problem with this. -Mark -- Mark G. Tacchi tacchi@ccu.umanitoba.ca "Medicine will cure death and government will repeal taxes before Steve will fail." -G.Kawasaki
From: cs438@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Denis Lafont) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Canon hardware deal/NS on PPC --> Marketing in Europe Date: 23 Jul 1993 15:05:56 GMT Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA) Message-ID: <22ouok$a93@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> > But in fact, people wants to know that NeXT Inc is alive, and happy to know that three distributors and 20 > Resellers want to fulfill their needs. Yes people wants to know. But the more important is that people must KNOW NS, see a marketing "presence". The problem of NS here is that is just a few of "NS addicts" who knows NS. After having worked for some big customers, I saw more than before than NS can fullfit some needs of this customers (client/server, database, etc..). But you can not sell something just with sentences like "it is the best...., we believe..you will see". People must see NeXTSTEP everywhere...of course it expensive... Of course it costs to be helpful with journalists, to be present to any trade-show (with more than a 10 squerred meters stall !! ;-)), and to train people to discuss on NT, Spring or any other competitors. But it is the price, ne ? (to be pronounce with the canadian accent, you know, these canadians who never see NeXT in any trade-show...!!...;-() > They don't care of only NeXT Europe, with nobody speaking french, local VAD and You)ve got the point (as usual.....;-)) > NeXT Europe will hire a marketing manager devoted to NS in France. I'm waiting > for that guy, as if it was a prophet. (Not God himself ;-) I am sure you already know that guy ...;-)... And I am waiting for him too.... Cheers, Denis ###A -- _________________________________________________________________ Denis LAFONT, Software Engineer e-mail : cs438@cleveland.freenet.edu -no NeXT Mail please ;-(- Disclaimer: Any opinions expressed are mine.
From: mitch@mills.edu (Mitch Gass) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Gateway shipped CDROM? Date: 23 Jul 1993 17:26:18 GMT Organization: Mills College, Oakland CA Message-ID: <22p6vq$hhf@agate.berkeley.edu> Keywords: FIP,Gateway,2000,CD,CDROM,ide >Can FIP access the CD-ROM drive which is the ``default'' >setup shipped for NEXTSTEP from Gateway? No. It's an IDE drive, and you need a SCSI drive. >Bruce Gingery bruce@TotSysSoft.com Mitch Gass
From: doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu (Douglas Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NXSystemFonts definition in X11 Date: 23 Jul 1993 16:34:23 GMT Organization: University of California, Santa Barbara Distribution: world Message-ID: <22p3uf$k72@ecifs2.ucsb.edu> References: <22cu3d$11sr@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> In article <22cu3d$11sr@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> perkins@sidney.cps.msu.edu (Stephen Perkins) writes: ] ] I grabbed the X11 server off of foxtrot and it seems to have installed ] fine. However, whenever I start the X server (and two xterms), the ] following two messages get appened to /usr/adm/messages: ] ] syslog: Couldn't find default font for default NXSystemFonts ] syslog: Couldn't find default font for default NXBoldSystemFonts ] ] I have looked in my Next resources (thru dread -l) and my .Xdefaults ] file and I find no references to these fonts. I tried to make aliases ] to them in a fonts.alias (along with xset and mkfontdir etc) file and ] still no luck (xlsfonts would show font names nxsystemfonts and ] nxboldsystemfonts in all lowercase). ] ] The fonts on many applications seem screwed up when viewed on my NeXT. ] I checked the FAQs but couldn't find anything helpful. Anybody know how ] to correct this? ] ] Many thanks for any responses! ] ] - Steve Ignore this error. It is caused by the XNextPaste utility program that runs concurrently with the X front end. It is a NextStep error, and not an X error. I have not been able to figure out what causes it -- is is some kind of leftover from the 2.1 version. -- Douglas Scott (805)893-8352 Center for Computer Music Research and Composition University of California, Santa Barbara Internet: (NeXTMail ok) <doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu>
From: baratoff@cfar.umd.edu (Gregory Baratoff) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: CD-ROM drives Message-ID: <69559@mimsy.umd.edu> Date: 23 Jul 93 17:30:43 GMT Sender: news@mimsy.umd.edu Organization: U of Maryland, Center for Automation Research, Coll. Pk., MD 20742 Which CD-ROM drives are acceptable for NS/i ? I heard they must by SCSI compliant. What does that mean exactly ? Do I have to buy an extra SCSI controller just for it, or could I use the one for the HD (assuming it's a SCSI HD) ? Greg. ****************************************************************************** * Gregory Baratoff e-mail : baratoff@cfar.umd.edu * * Center for Automation Research * * University of Maryland * * College Park, MD 20742 * ******************************************************************************
From: baratoff@cfar.umd.edu (Gregory Baratoff) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: modems Message-ID: <69560@mimsy.umd.edu> Date: 23 Jul 93 17:34:21 GMT Sender: news@mimsy.umd.edu Organization: U of Maryland, Center for Automation Research, Coll. Pk., MD 20742 Which modems are acceptable for NS/i ? Can I use a 2400 modem, or does it have to be 14.4K (or 9600) ? Thanks, Greg. ****************************************************************************** * Gregory Baratoff e-mail : baratoff@cfar.umd.edu * * Center for Automation Research * * University of Maryland * * College Park, MD 20742 * ******************************************************************************
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: rm@califhistsoc.org (Robert MacKimmie) Subject: GS Corporation GOLDLEAF moved Message-ID: <CAKzqB.98@califhistsoc.org> Sender: rm@califhistsoc.org (one) Organization: California Historical Society - Bringing the 19th Century, kicking and screaming, into the 21st! 415 567-1848 or fax 415 567-2394. Distribution: comp.sys.next.misc Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1993 19:34:59 GMT lbrahman@du.edu asked: >Does anyone know the phone/fax/e-mail address of GOLDLEAF PUBLISHING >in Larkspur California? > >It seems that they have moved to a new address and there is no recording. For all else who might want to know--- GS Corporation 929 Sir Francis Drake Boulevard MailStop C342 Kentfield, CA 94904 phone: (415) 257-4700 order Products (800) 999-8844 fax (415) 257-4707 e-mail: info@goldleaf.com They gave a presentation 7-21-93 at BaNG. I'm sure there are opinions if one is seeking such...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: bruce@TotSysSoft.com (Bruce Gingery) Subject: Re: "neil" in Webster Message-ID: <1993Jul23.045822.890@ToTSySSoft.com> Sender: news@ToTSySSoft.com Organization: Total System Software References: <CAFxAw.5MJ@califhistsoc.org> Distribution: comp.sys.next.misc Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1993 04:58:22 GMT Whoops, my previous post was in the Thesarus... Here's Compact Dictionary for neil... Correction? neichiang neigh neighbor neighbored neighborhood neighboring neighborliness neighborly neighbour neijiang neilson neimonggol neimonggolsee neisse neither neitherfishnorfowl
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sysadmin From: kent@infoserv.com Subject: Flatbed Scanners Message-ID: <CAMFnt.1qD@infoserv.com> Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard) Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting Distribution: na Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1993 14:16:41 GMT What do I need to do to get a SCSI flatbed scanner to work on my cube? I can get an Abaton 300/S16 or a 300/GS real cheap and I'd like to know what I have to do to get it to work? I know Abaton is no more, it was adivision of Everex but at the price I'm the scanner I don't care. Kent -- /* K.L. Shephard Consulting is my company. Infoserv only delivers my mail. */ /* Please direct mail to kent@infoserv.com other adresses may not work. */
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: jybarnes@cs.umr.edu (Jym Barnes) Subject: Information needed on $299.00 Nextstep for x86 Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1993 19:13:16 GMT Organization: University of Missouri - Rolla Sender: cnews@umr.edu (UMR Usenet News Administration) Message-ID: <1993Jul23.191316.1998@umr.edu>
From: baratoff@cfar.umd.edu (Gregory Baratoff) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: summary : vendors of NS/i systems Message-ID: <69565@mimsy.umd.edu> Date: 23 Jul 93 20:17:26 GMT Sender: news@mimsy.umd.edu Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: U of Maryland, Center for Automation Research, Coll. Pk., MD 20742 A couple of days ago I posted the following message : >I am considering buying a 486 machine to run NS. >I haven't made up my mind as to which machine it will be, >so I'd like to call up some companies to check out their offers. >Since NS 3.1 imposes some restrictions on the kind of peripherals >that can be used, I would like to get in touch with sales/tech persons >who are familiar with NS and its requirements. > >If you know of any such person (at Gateway, Dell, NEC, etc), please send >me their name, company, phone/fax (+extension #), email. > >Since this is of potential interest to many netters, I will post a summary >to this Newsgroup. > > Thanks, Greg. > Here's a summary of the answers I got : Company : Advance2000 Inc Address : Buffalo, NY Phone : 1-800-9ADVANCE Contact : Doug or Brian Company : Alpine Computing Address : Salt Lake City, UT Phone : (801) 268-8877 Contact : Kris Magnusson Email : yf5990@u.cc.utah.edu (Kris' email) Company : Continental Computer Systems Address : Hartford, CT Phone : 1-800-776-8649 Contact : Jim Pinto (sales, ext. 133) Joe Bacher (NS support, ext. 137) Company : GEC computers Address : Phone : 1-800-486-1500 Contact : Jeannie Company : Tri-star Computers Address : Chandler, AZ Phone : (602) 961-3401 Contact : Bob Padua (ext. 4459) (call 1pm - 5pm) Company : TCS Consulting Services Address : Saint Paul, MN Phone : (612) 771-3830 Contact : Gregory Youngblood email : tcs-systems-info@tcscs.com Company : Workstation 2000 Address : Fallbrook, CA Phone : (619) 723-4827 Fax : (619) 723-4392 Contact : Tim Finn email : tfinn@cerf.net (might not work anymore) Company : Gateway 2000 Phone : 1-800-846-2042 Contact : Andy Edlund (ext. 5401) I haven't tried out all of these, I'm just passing them on. ****************************************************************************** * Gregory Baratoff e-mail : baratoff@cfar.umd.edu * * Center for Automation Research * * University of Maryland * * College Park, MD 20742 * ******************************************************************************
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.marketplace From: jybarnes@cs.umr.edu (Jym Barnes) Subject: Info needed on $299.00 deal for Nextstep x86 Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1993 18:58:36 GMT Organization: University of Missouri - Rolla Sender: cnews@umr.edu (UMR Usenet News Administration) Message-ID: <1993Jul23.185836.1704@umr.edu> Hi, I have a couple of questions about the $299.00 price for Nextstep for 80x86. 1) Is the price still $299.00? 2) When does this offer expire? 3) Is Nextstep stable (basically bug free) on 80x86? 4) How do I contact Next to order? 5) What does $299.00 get me, X-Windows, TCPIP, NFS? or what does it not get me? 6) What is the price of a complete packages? I believe it is referred to as the development package. Please send any information to barnes@tweety.digsys.com. Thanks a ton, -Jym- ******************************************************************************* * * James Barnes Phone: 314-232-6833 * Fax: 314-234-3186 * *******************************************************************************
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.marketplace From: jybarnes@cs.umr.edu (Jym Barnes) Subject: Info needed about $299.00 Nextstep for x86 Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1993 18:53:40 GMT Organization: University of Missouri - Rolla Sender: cnews@umr.edu (UMR Usenet News Administration) Message-ID: <1993Jul23.185340.1603@umr.edu> Hi, I have a couple of questions about the $299.00 price for Nextstep for 80x86. 1) Is the price still $299.00? 2) When does this offer expire? 3) Is Nextstep stable (basically bug free) on 80x86? 4) How do I contact Next to order? 5) What does $299.00 get me, X-Windows, TCPIP, NFS? or what does it not get me? 6) What is the price of a complete packages? I believe it is referred to as the development package. Please send any information to barnes@tweety.digsys.com. Thanks a ton, -Jym- ******************************************************************************* * * James Barnes Phone: 314-232-6833 * Fax: 314-234-3186 * *******************************************************************************
From: dittrich@stein2.u.washington.edu (Dave Dittrich) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Bug in sendmail under NS 3.0? Date: 23 Jul 1993 21:33:25 GMT Organization: University of Washington Message-ID: <22plf5$43e@news.u.washington.edu> I am trying to set up a program designed to process email messages automtically for automating and tracking help desk messages. I have been encountering a problem indicated by this message: ... ----- Transcript of session follows ----- sh: 24739 Memory fault 554 "|/usr/redusers/qna/bin/qna -t testers@3pin.cac.washington.edu -r helptest@3 pin.cac.washington.edu"... 554 unknown mailer error 139 ----- Unsent message follows ----- ... Some of the messages make it through fine, and others produce this message. Does anyone know what consitutes a "Memory fault" in the Borne Shell and what I can do to get around (or debug) this problem? You can reply to me via email at dittrich@cac.washington.edu, since I don't frequent these particular newsgroups. Thanks in advance.
From: daugher@cs.tamu.edu(Walter C. Daugherity) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXT cube sighting?! Date: 23 Jul 1993 21:31:52 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX Distribution: world Message-ID: <22plc8$qdr@tamsun.tamu.edu> Keywords: Borg This probably doesn't qualify as a genuine NeXT cube sighting, but for you Trekkies out there, SHUANG@MECHANICAL.watstar.uwaterloo.ca says: <Editor's note: Notice how Steve JOBS' computer, the NeXT Cubes look allot like Borg ships? Coincidence? I think not...> -- Walter C. Daugherity Internet, NeXTmail: daugher@cs.tamu.edu Texas A & M University uucp: uunet!cs.tamu.edu!daugher College Station, TX 77843-3112 BITNET: DAUGHER@TAMVENUS ---Not an official document of Texas A&M---
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) Subject: Re: Info needed about $299.00 Nextstep for x86 Message-ID: <1993Jul23.222643.1344@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: DSO, Stanford University References: <1993Jul23.185340.1603@umr.edu> Date: Fri, 23 Jul 93 22:26:43 GMT Jym Barnes writes > I have a couple of questions about the $299.00 price for Nextstep for 80x86. > > 1) Is the price still $299.00? I believe the $299 evaluation price goes until July 31. Since you're at an edu address, I presume you'd also qualify for a $249 price for the user+developer bundle. The two bundles differ a little, other than in price: With the edu bundle, you cannot sell software you develop commercially, but you get a free upgrade to 3.2 when it ships. With the evaluation bundle, you can sell whatever you want, but there's no free upgrade. > 2) When does this offer expire? Full user system, full developer system. All docs for the user system, on-line docs only for the dev tools (and a coupon for 50% off the printed docs if you want them). The evaluation bundle also includes a (very good) book on NS programming. > 3) Is Nextstep stable (basically bug free) on 80x86? Yes. Remember its version 3.1 of the OS. The single major problem that's been reported is problems with the serial drivers; that's being worked on. Note however that installation requirements are pretty stiff; once you get it working, it works well. Mileage on getting to work in the first place has varied. You shouldn't have any problems if you get one of the pre-installed systems from Dell, Compaq, or several other vendors. > 4) How do I contact Next to order? 1-800-TRY-NEXT is a good place to start. > 5) What does $299.00 get me, X-Windows, TCPIP, NFS? > or what does it not get me? You get all the standard Unix tools, including TCP/IP, but not X windows. There are several commercial and PD X windows solutions for NS; I'm not sure what their status with respect to NS/I is. > 6) What is the price of a complete packages? I believe > it is referred to as the development package. The $299 is for the complete package (as is the $249 edu). Basically, there's a User system and a developer package. I think the street price for both is around $2,000 (roughly $500 user + $1,00 developer; I could be off by a couple hundred, though). So either of the bundles is an amazing deal. -- - Stefano Pagiola Food Research Institute, Stanford University spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged) spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: halpin@vsg1.dsg.dec.com (Stephen E. Halpin) Subject: Port to HP PA-RISC? Message-ID: <1993Jul23.225811.1315@nntpd.lkg.dec.com> Sender: usenet@nntpd.lkg.dec.com (USENET News System) Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1993 22:58:11 GMT Has anyone published a timeframe for the port of NeXTstep to the HP PA-RISC platform? If so, when might the port be available? -Steve -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Stephen E. Halpin halpin@vsg1.dsg.dec.com "You might just have to waste your life just to live." - Soul Asylum
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: john@wpa.com (John Bartley) Subject: Nova needs more disk space Message-ID: <1993Jul23.232208.1434@nimno.wpa.com> Sender: john@nimno.wpa.com Organization: Workgroup Productivity Associates Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1993 23:22:08 GMT What happened to the drive to buy some additional disk capacity for nova? I recall pledging a contribution to the cause, but apparently the movement never got off the ground. From recent communications with Allen B., it seems like space is still a problem. I'm still willing to contribute to buy more disk space - is there a collection underway that isn't being publicized? If not, can we get things rolling again and restore "free breathing" to the wheezing nova? If 50 people contributed $20 apiece that would buy a used 1 GB drive. I personally get at least that much benefit from nova (or at least I used to before it stopped working) since I'm not on the net and can't access it via ftp. Hopefully 49 other NeXT users get similar benefits. How about it? John Bartley john@wpa.com
From: garyc@eecs.nwu.edu (Gary I. Chang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Problem with DiskEjectFix.daemon Date: 24 Jul 1993 02:37:28 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL USA Message-ID: <22q798$ssp@news.acns.nwu.edu> Hi, Just upgrade to NS3.1 and thought the DiskEjectFix.daemon may not be needed any more. Ever since I remove it, I keep getting the error in the console which annoys me a lot. Software Version 3.1 (Lightning4H) Jul 23 21:22:53 Workspace: Cannot exec /usr/local/bin/DiskEjectFix.daemon: (not a valid program) Should I put the daemon back on track? Has the DiskEject problem in 3.0 being fixed yet in 3.1 or not? Thanks, -- +----------------+ | Gary I. Chang | +----------------+ Northwestern Univ. E-Mail: garyc@eecs.nwu.edu (NeXT-Mail O.K.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: charles@raiders.sps.mot.com (Charles Chan) Subject: Can a Mac/PC use NeXT's Color Monitor? Message-ID: <1993Jul23.233546.2770@newsgate.sps.mot.com> Sender: news@newsgate.sps.mot.com Organization: SPS Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1993 23:35:46 GMT Hi, there, I would like to know if there is a way for My Mac/PC to use NeXT's color monitor. Thanks in advance. Charles ------- charles@raiders.sps.mot.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) Subject: Re: Gateway shipped CDROM? Message-ID: <CAno5w.FB3@utstat.toronto.edu> Keywords: FIP,Gateway,2000,CD,CDROM,ide Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics References: <1993Jul23.044714.768@ToTSySSoft.com> <CAMEL1.9on@ccu.umanitoba.ca> Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1993 06:17:56 GMT In article <CAMEL1.9on@ccu.umanitoba.ca> tacchi@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Mark G. Tacchi) writes: [ ] > >>Can FIP access the CD-ROM drive which is the ``default'' >>setup shipped for NEXTSTEP from Gateway? It appears to be >>IDE. > >If it is IDE, it will not work. When ordering a system from Gateway, make sure >that you tell them it is for NEXTSTEP. I was under the impression that they >ship SCSI CD internally and the Adaptec card. There would be no problem with >this. While this is quite true, I would suggest that the user tell NeXT that they will not buy into NS/I as long as NeXT continues this crazy obssesion with SCSI CD-ROM's, while supporting IDE LB hard drives. It's just stupid. One can get a Sound Blaster Pro (also not supported)+ Philips Photo CD reader for under $300 US in Toronto. Why would one go with a PAS-16 and its hassles ( and no better sound) and IDE and Adaptec SCSI and SCSI CD-ROM? Damn it. Even if NeXT insists on the PAS-16 ( a mediocre sound card) then have them at least support the PAS16's SCSI interface. A better solution is to support the Sound Blaster and an IDE CD-ROM. Why can't Unix people understand that SCSI is simply not important yet on PC's? -- Philip McDunnough University of Toronto philip@utstat.toronto.edu [Where sheep may safely graze...]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) Subject: Re: Gateway shipped CDROM? Message-ID: <CAnoBB.FE2@utstat.toronto.edu> Keywords: FIP,Gateway,2000,CD,CDROM,ide Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics References: <22p6vq$hhf@agate.berkeley.edu> Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1993 06:21:11 GMT In article <22p6vq$hhf@agate.berkeley.edu> mitch@mills.edu (Mitch Gass) writes: >>Can FIP access the CD-ROM drive which is the ``default'' >>setup shipped for NEXTSTEP from Gateway? > >No. It's an IDE drive, and you need a SCSI drive. Then I strongly suggest that the user cancel the order and tell NeXT that they won't switch until NeXT supports the most common form of PC CD-ROM reader. Why incresae costs by $500? [and hassles with IDE and SCSI] -- Philip McDunnough University of Toronto philip@utstat.toronto.edu [Where sheep may safely graze...]
From: kline@CS.Arizona.EDU (Nick Kline) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Gateway shipped CDROM? Date: 24 Jul 1993 02:30:33 -0700 Organization: University of Arizona CS Department, Tucson AZ Message-ID: <22qvfp$gmg@cheltenham.cs.arizona.edu> References: <1993Jul23.044714.768@ToTSySSoft.com> <CAMEL1.9on@ccu.umanitoba.ca> <CAno5w.FB3@utstat.toronto.edu> Keywords: FIP,Gateway,2000,CD,CDROM,ide In article <CAno5w.FB3@utstat.toronto.edu> philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) writes: > > >While this is quite true, I would suggest that the user tell NeXT that they >will not buy into NS/I as long as NeXT continues this crazy obssesion with >SCSI CD-ROM's, while supporting IDE LB hard drives. It's just stupid. One >can get a Sound Blaster Pro (also not supported)+ Philips Photo CD reader >for under $300 US in Toronto. Why would one go with a PAS-16 and its >hassles ( and no better sound) and IDE and Adaptec SCSI and SCSI CD-ROM? >Damn it. Even if NeXT insists on the PAS-16 ( a mediocre sound card) then >have them at least support the PAS16's SCSI interface. > >can't Unix people understand that SCSI is simply not important yet on PC's? > >-- You can't just support an ide cd rom. Man of these cd-roms need special drivers, different when run under windows, OS/2 or MSDOS. Thus, next would have to have different drivers (something they are sorely lacking now!) for these different cd-roms. far simpler to just use scsi disks which don't need separate drivers. It's annoying that the cheapo cd-roms don't work with 3.1, but hey, most or the ide cd roms seems to be pretty crummy, none that I've heard of being as nice the cd 300. Of course, the same problem works with scsi. There's a well defined protocal from scsi device to the scsi card, but you need drivers for the damn scsi cards! That's the reason that not many scsi cards are supported, but lots of scsi DEVICES are. -nick
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: kent@infoserv.com Subject: Software for ND Message-ID: <CAKKsH.AD@infoserv.com> Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard) Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting Distribution: na Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1993 14:12:16 GMT What software, public domain or comrecial, is available to do cool stuff on a NeXTDimension? I now have a ND system and want to play around with some video stuff. Is there anything available that will allow you to overlay computer images with the live video, etc? Kent -- /* K.L. Shephard Consulting is my company. Infoserv only delivers my mail. */ /* Please direct mail to kent@infoserv.com other adresses may not work. */
From: UC512052@mizzou1.missouri.edu (David K. Drum) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Nova needs more disk space Date: Sat, 24 Jul 93 13:12:51 CDT Organization: University of Missouri Message-ID: <16C15B9D8.UC512052@mizzou1.missouri.edu> References: <1993Jul23.232208.1434@nimno.wpa.com> In article <1993Jul23.232208.1434@nimno.wpa.com> john@wpa.com (John Bartley) writes: > I'm still willing to contribute to >buy more disk space . . . . > >How about it? > >John Bartley >john@wpa.com Count me in too. Regards, David K. Drum uc512052@mizzou1.missouri.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: coconut@crash.cts.com (Brian Dear) Subject: Re: summary : vendors of NS/i systems Organization: Coconut Computing, Inc., La Jolla, CA Date: 24 Jul 93 10:22:26 PDT Message-ID: <1993Jul24.102226.27704@crash> References: <69565@mimsy.umd.edu> Based on the favorable reports from USENET, we called Kris Magnusson at Alpine Computing MicroAge in Utah. He was very helpful and obviously was knowledgable about NEXTSTEP, which was a welcome surprise. We went through several conversations before agreeing to buy an Intel GX Professional workstation with NS/I preinstalled. We'd made it clear how critical it was that we get a machine before the weekend, so we could use it on a project over the weekend. He assured us numerous times that he would be available for technical support on Friday 23 July. The machine shipped overnight and arrived on Friday 23 July. I was dismayed to discover that there were no owner's manuals or other documentation, no warranty cards, no NOTHING other than the Intel box and a bag with some Intel DOS driver floppies. Mr. Magnusson had told me to call if we had ANY problems. One of the reasons we agreed to buy the machine was his promises to help out and his concern for making sure we were happy with the machine. He had even offered to include an Adaptec 1542C card as a loaner just to make sure everything worked smoothly. We were impressed. We did have problems. The damn machine wouldn't boot. It kept hanging when getting to the Ethernet card (we had bought an Intel EtherExpress card from Magnusson and had him install it). During the NEXTSTEP boot process it would say "Press Control-C" to skip past the network, or whatever the message is. Control-C didn't work. NOTHING worked. So I removed the EtherExpress card and tried rebooting. Now I got system panics and "type 'c' to continue" -- which I did, and it only resulted in more "type 'c' to continue" messages. Well, we called Alpine Computing, and guess what. Mr. Magnusson is on vacation. AFTER HE TOLD US HE WOULD BE THERE FRIDAY TO HELP US OUT. We left messages, we had other people at Alpine leave messages at his home. No luck. We have yet to hear from him. I asked to speak to the manager. He's out too. Something about some state holiday in Utah (Pioneer Day??). And guess what. No-one else at Alpine knows ANYTHING about NEXTSTEP. He also told us we were buying a 340MB SCSI hard disk. That's what it says on the receipt. Well, it's a 329MB drive. That might not mean much of a difference to you, but with NEXTSTEP I need all the room I can get, and he should have told me the real capacity. (I know all about formatted vs unformatted -- I was led to believe it was a real 340MB formatted capacity). We are not happy with Alpine so far. We feel like we got a demo model. We feel like we were lied to. I regret not buying a NeXTstation Turbo Color. They work, Intel equipment doesn't. Sigh. -- brian dear coconut computing, inc. la jolla, ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: thf@zelator.in-berlin.de (Thomas Funke) Subject: Re: You and your Swapfile Message-ID: <1993Jul23.115445.869@gamelan> Sender: thomas@gamelan (thomas) Organization: Disorganization References: <2374@nikhefh.nikhef.nl> Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1993 11:54:45 GMT In article <2374@nikhefh.nikhef.nl> t19@nikhef.nl (Geert J v Oldenborgh) writes: > > One comment often made is that the swapfile will never shrink. > This is not true, at least on a 3.0 station. When I run a music > editor with an 80 MB file, do _absolutely_nothing_else_, save, > (make tea) and quit, a terrible rattling noise goes on for about > two minutes, during which the machine does not respond to anything. > Afterwards the swapfile is back at 16MB. > > Note hat this only seems to work if no other process allocated > memory in the meantime - even the scrollbackbuffer of Terminal. > It is thus of very limited practical relevance. > The swapfile-implementation by NeXT is a hack which doesn't seem to become improved. I cannot see much logic in it. Its true, sometimes you can see that your swapfile shrinks a little bit (a few MB only). Most of the time this wouldn't happen at all. Do some experiment: Swap away that your swapfile grows. Then log out, go down to the console, thus leaving NeXTSTep and the windowserver. Become root and start killing almost all processes: Still your swapfile is as big (or almost as big) as it was before. It seems that once the lowat has been reached, the swapfile starts growing and growing, even if there is not much swapping taking place. A hiwat doesn't help much: It just crashes the machine :-( I have the impression, that compressed swapfiles are (sometimes) worse: While the compression does indeed prevent swapfile growth for a longer time, once the limit is reached it grows even faster. It seems that there is some kind of 'memory-leak' in the swapfile implementation. Is there any Mach-specialist around who can give us some detailed explanation ?? -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Thomas Funke ** Unix-Consultant ** thf@zelator.in-berlin.de Brook's Law: Adding manpower to a late software project makes it later ------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: greg@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson) Subject: Re: Port to HP PA-RISC? Message-ID: <1993Jul24.182824.571@afs.com> Sender: greg@afs.com References: <1993Jul23.225811.1315@nntpd.lkg.dec.com> Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1993 18:28:24 GMT In article <1993Jul23.225811.1315@nntpd.lkg.dec.com> halpin@vsg1.dsg.dec.com (Stephen E. Halpin) writes: > Has anyone published a timeframe for the port of NeXTstep to > the HP PA-RISC platform? If so, when might the port be available? Official word on commercial availability is 2Q94 for the complete native port, 4Q93 for Portable Distributed Objects. Assume selected beta sites will be seeing code about 3 months before that. -- Gregory H. Anderson | "History is the fiction we invent to Revisionist Autobiographer | persuade ourselves that events are Anderson Financial Systems | knowable and that life has order and greg@afs.com (NeXTmail OK) | direction." -- Calvin & Hobbes, 7/19/93
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: coconut@crash.cts.com (Brian Dear) Subject: Re: summary : vendors of NS/i systems Organization: Coconut Computing, Inc., La Jolla, CA Date: 24 Jul 93 11:56:40 PDT Message-ID: <1993Jul24.115640.1094@crash> References: <1993Jul24.102226.27704@crash> Followup to my flame on Alpine Computing. Mr. Magnusson called our office today, Saturday, from his home, and helped answer my questions and resolve my problems. I want the Net to know I am a satisfied customer of Alpine and now have the Intel GX machine working. Mr. Magnusson has gone out of his way to help and we appreciate that. I wish, however, these computer stores had _several_ knowledgable NEXTSTEP persons on staff, as we probably wouldn't have had these problems. Hopefully as NEXTSTEP grows in market share, this will come about. Anyways, back to work, and I hope other Net users will consider Alpine. -- brian dear coconut computing, inc. la jolla, ca :
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: silbar@cantina.lanl.gov (Dick Silbar) Subject: Re: summary : vendors of NS/i systems Message-ID: <1993Jul24.200144.22715@newshost.lanl.gov> Sender: news@newshost.lanl.gov Organization: Los Alamos National Lab References: <69565@mimsy.umd.edu> Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1993 20:01:44 GMT In article <69565@mimsy.umd.edu> baratoff@cfar.umd.edu (Gregory Baratoff) writes: > > Company : Alpine Computing > Address : Salt Lake City, UT > Phone : (801) 268-8877 > Contact : Kris Magnusson > Email : yf5990@u.cc.utah.edu (Kris' email) > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ When I sent mail to this address, it bounced back -- no such user known. Worse, when I sent mail to kris@doberman.com (an address on a fax I received from him in June), it also bounced -- unknown user! Dick Silbar
From: marcel@cs.tu-berlin.de (Marcel Weiher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: You and your Swapfile Date: 24 Jul 1993 22:29:27 GMT Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <22sd47$1vm@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> References: <2374@nikhefh.nikhef.nl> <1993Jul23.115445.869@gamelan> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit thf@zelator.in-berlin.de (Thomas Funke) writes: >The swapfile-implementation by NeXT is a hack which doesn't seem to >become improved. I cannot see much logic in it. Its true, sometimes you Yet another thing that's been improved in 3.1. My swapfiles aren't growing out of bounds anymore. (Actually, it seems as if all they did was to turn on the swaptimizer all the time, but it works...). Marcel
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Problem with DiskEjectFix.daemon Date: 24 Jul 1993 22:30:40 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <22sd6h$gbh@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <22q798$ssp@news.acns.nwu.edu> garyc@eecs.nwu.edu (Gary I. Chang) writes: > Just upgrade to NS3.1 and thought the DiskEjectFix.daemon may not > be needed any more. Ever since I remove it, I keep getting the error in > the console which annoys me a lot. > > Software Version 3.1 (Lightning4H) > Jul 23 21:22:53 Workspace: > Cannot exec /usr/local/bin/DiskEjectFix.daemon: > (not a valid program) You're getting this error message because the daemon is listed, by name, as something that should be executed when you log in. Now that you have destroyed the file, the workspace can not find it, and thus complains that the program can not be executed. You need to change the appropriate value in the defaults database (note that each user has their own defaults database). Start up Terminal.app to get a Unix window, and then type in the command: dread Workspace LaunchPaths If you get back the following: Workspace LaunchPaths /usr/local/bin/DiskEjectFix.daemon then you only have one program in the list of things to execute at login. In that case, type the following command: dremove WorkSpace LaunchPaths You may already have more than one program in that list. If you do, they will be separated by ";"'s. Eg: Workspace LaunchPaths /usr/local/bin/DiskEjectFix.daemon;/Other.one In that case you need to write a new value of the default with the DiskEject daemon removed. To match the above example, for instance, you would have to type: dwrite Workspace LaunchPaths /Other.one It wouldn't surprise me if there are easier ways to do this, but I don't know if you have the programs which would make it easy. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware From: yf5990@u.cc.utah.edu (Yan Fang) Subject: Re: NS on IBM Thinkpad? Message-ID: <1993Jul25.014923.3350@fcom.cc.utah.edu> Sender: news@fcom.cc.utah.edu Organization: University of Utah Computer Center Student Mail Machine References: <93196.011728U54876@uicvm.uic.edu> <1993Jul15.160812.37295@rchland.ibm.com> Date: Sun, 25 Jul 93 01:49:23 GMT In article <1993Jul15.160812.37295@rchland.ibm.com> tgall@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Tom Gall) writes: >In article <93196.011728U54876@uicvm.uic.edu>, <U54876@uicvm.uic.edu> writes: >|> Does anyone (everyone) know if NS will run on IBM's Thinkpad. Specifically >|> the color one - I think it's the 700C or something like that. My dad is sold >|> on the Thinkpad, and I might have him sold on NS - if it runs on it. >|> Sorry for the basic question, but I just don't know that much about the IBM's. >|> Thanks! >|> >|> >|> -tom nawara >|> nirvana@boss.math.uic.edu >|> ideaLABS > >The IBM Thinkpad 700C uses the 486 SLC processor. If I remember my hardware list correctly, the SLC processors are NOT on that list so indeed the 700C may not in fact work with NeXTSTEP. Then again, this doesn't mean it won't work either. > >After try various pieces of hardware, configurations, IRQs etc on my quest to get NS/FIP on a machine for myself, I found the best thing to do was just try it. Most dealers are open to letting folks test drive systems. Lets you as a user show them a thin g or two as well if the installation works. > > Tom > > >-- >tgall@rchvmw2.vnet.ibm.com (work -- NeXTMail NOT ok) >gypsy!servo@csn.org (home -- NeXTMail ok) >_________________________________________________________________________ >|o|Tom Gall "Where's the ka-boom? There was supposed |o| >|o|Dept 45 N to be an earth shattering ka-boom!" |o| >|o|Performance Tools III -- Marvin Martian ____ |o| >|o|006-2 / B209 /\___\ |o| >|o|IBM Rochester 3-4558 #include<std.disclaimer.h> \/___/ |o| I've got a ThinkPad floating around the office. I'll commandeer it and try a NS/I installation and report back in the future. -- Yan Fang-Magnusson <yf5990@u.cc.utah.edu> --------------------------------------------------------------------- Doctoral candidate, Department of Philosophy, University of Utah
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: uunet!lkba!lkb (Larry Blische) Subject: Re: Nova needs more disk space Message-ID: <1993Jul25.030936.10762@lkba.uucp> Sender: lkb@lkba.uucp (Larry Blische) Organization: LKB Associates, Inc. References: <16C15B9D8.UC512052@mizzou1.missouri.edu> Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1993 03:09:36 GMT In article <16C15B9D8.UC512052@mizzou1.missouri.edu> UC512052@mizzou1.missouri.edu (David K. Drum) writes: > In article <1993Jul23.232208.1434@nimno.wpa.com> > john@wpa.com (John Bartley) writes: > > > I'm still willing to contribute to > >buy more disk space . . . . > > > >How about it? > > > >John Bartley > >john@wpa.com > > Count me in too. > > Regards, > > David K. Drum uc512052@mizzou1.missouri.edu Ditto! --- Larry Blische lkba!lkb@uunet.UU.NET LKB Associates, Inc. NeXTmail Welcome! 3118 Dunglow Road 410 285 2262 Dundalk, Maryland 21222-5304 USA
From: garyc@eecs.nwu.edu (Gary Chang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: You and your Swapfile Date: 25 Jul 1993 03:56:25 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL USA Message-ID: <22t099$okm@news.acns.nwu.edu> References: <22sd47$1vm@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> In article <22sd47$1vm@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> marcel@cs.tu-berlin.de (Marcel Weiher) writes: &- thf@zelator.in-berlin.de (Thomas Funke) writes: & &- Yet another thing that's been improved in 3.1. My swapfiles aren't &- growing out of bounds anymore. &- From what I feel, NS3.1 swap a lot less than previous versions. I seldom see the swapfile grow, nor do I hear too much swapping noise. It just becomes quieter and faster response all the time. Reading from a CD-ROM is almost twice as fast. NeXT has done a good job! -- +----------------+ | Gary I. Chang | +----------------+ Northwestern Univ. E-Mail: garyc@eecs.nwu.edu (NeXT-Mail O.K.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: m@BlueRose.com (M Carling) Subject: Re: E-Mail address for NeXTWorld Message-ID: <1993Jul25.051546.17880@BlueRose.com> Sender: m@BlueRose.com Organization: Blue Rose Systems, Inc. References: <22d4o3$fhe@news.acns.nwu.edu> Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1993 05:15:46 GMT In article <22d4o3$fhe@news.acns.nwu.edu> garyc@eecs.nwu.edu (Gary I. Chang) writes: > Hi, > > I need to post a change of my address to the NeXTWorld > Subscription. Does anybody know their E-mail address XXX.nextworld.com so > that I can send my request over the E-Mail instead of U.S. Mail? subscrip@nextworld.com M Carling President, Bay Area NeXT Group
From: doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu (Douglas Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Is anyone using a ZyXEL Fax modem on black NeXT?? Date: 23 Jul 1993 23:49:48 GMT Organization: University of California, Santa Barbara Distribution: world Message-ID: <22ptes$3gk@hub.ucsb.edu> Keywords: Fax modem ZyXEL Could someone who has successfully used a ZyXEL high-speed modem on a NeXT please contact me? The literature claims it will work, but I am unable to: 1) Dial out via tip or kermit 2) Log in once I dial up the modem from outside 3) Send a fax out via the built-in OS 3.0 fax software 4) Receive a fax In other words, I cant do anything with the thing! ZyXEL has not been able to give my any help at all since they have no NeXTs there. They claim it works fine when run via the software from Black and White -- but cant help me get it working for simple things like using the modem as a regular dial-in dial-out modem, which does not involve its fax capabilities at all. Here is some further information: The modem is a ZyXEL U-1496E. I have a "68040 Modem Cable" from NextConnection, which is wired correctly for hardware flow control (I checked). I have tried many many different settings for the getty process -- using /dev/ttyda and /dev/ttydfa, using std.2400, std.19200, D19200, etc., etc. When I attempt to connect to the modem via tip or kermit, the process hangs as soon as it (supposedly) connects to the modem, and I get no response from the modem, and I have to reboot the machine to kill the tip or kermit process! If anyone has any suggestions, I would be very grateful! Thanks. -- Douglas Scott (805)893-8352 Center for Computer Music Research and Composition University of California, Santa Barbara Internet: (NeXTMail ok) <doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) Subject: Re: Gateway shipped CDROM? Message-ID: <CAq8p3.5vo@utstat.toronto.edu> Keywords: FIP,Gateway,2000,CD,CDROM,ide Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics References: <CAMEL1.9on@ccu.umanitoba.ca> <CAno5w.FB3@utstat.toronto.edu> <22qvfp$gmg@cheltenham.cs.arizona.edu> Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1993 15:36:38 GMT In article <22qvfp$gmg@cheltenham.cs.arizona.edu> kline@CS.Arizona.EDU (Nick Kline) writes: [ ] > >You can't just support an ide cd rom. Man of these cd-roms need special >drivers, different when run under windows, OS/2 or MSDOS. Thus, next would >have to have different drivers (something they are sorely lacking now!) for >these different cd-roms. far simpler to just use scsi disks which don't >need separate drivers. Well, MS seems to be able to do it with its MPC thing. In any case, there are a couple of CD-ROM's that ave very inexpensive that go with the SoundBlaster. Pick one, any one, at least. > >It's annoying that the cheapo cd-roms don't work with 3.1, but hey, most >or the ide cd roms seems to be pretty crummy, none that I've heard of being >as nice the cd 300. Most CD-ROM's are pretty crummy. Even the double speed ones are slow. However, since you insist on the cd 300 ( which I have in internal format on the Mac) I must tell you that there isn't a big difference between it and the Philips' IDE Kodak Photo CD compatible (multi-session) that Gateway gives away, and for which I pay (with a SoundBlaster Pro) around $370CDN which is under $300 US. And it doesn't require those crazy caddies. > >Of course, the same problem works with scsi. There's a well defined protocal >from scsi device to the scsi card, but you need drivers for the damn >scsi cards! That's the reason that not many scsi cards are supported, but >lots of scsi DEVICES are. > True, but most people don't need the the hassles of SCSI on a PC. > -- Philip McDunnough University of Toronto philip@utstat.toronto.edu [Where sheep may safely graze...]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: cdl@chiton.ucsd.edu (Carl Lowenstein) Subject: Re: Nova needs more disk space Message-ID: <1993Jul25.182309.27800@chiton.ucsd.edu> Organization: Marine Physical Lab, UC San Diego References: <1993Jul23.232208.1434@nimno.wpa.com> Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1993 18:23:09 GMT In article <1993Jul23.232208.1434@nimno.wpa.com> john@wpa.com (John Bartley) writes: >What happened to the drive to buy some additional disk capacity for nova? > >If 50 people contributed $20 apiece that would buy a used 1 GB drive. It would even buy a new 1GB drive. I have one sitting on my desktop right now. Where do I go to make my contribution? carl lowenstein marine physical lab u.c. san diego {decvax|ucbvax} !ucsd!mpl!cdl cdl@mpl.ucsd.edu clowenstein@ucsd.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: t90yuan@mp.cs.niu.edu (yuan tzeng) Subject: Re: Gateway shipped CDROM? Message-ID: <1993Jul25.205043.14973@mp.cs.niu.edu> Keywords: FIP,Gateway,2000,CD,CDROM,ide Organization: Northern Illinois University References: <22p6vq$hhf@agate.berkeley.edu> <CAnoBB.FE2@utstat.toronto.edu> Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1993 20:50:43 GMT In article <CAnoBB.FE2@utstat.toronto.edu> philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) writes: >Then I strongly suggest that the user cancel the order and tell NeXT that >they won't switch until NeXT supports the most common form of PC CD-ROM Yep here I am the one who cancel the order after finding out that IDE CDROM drive isn't being supported. Too bad! >reader. Why incresae costs by $500? >[and hassles with IDE and SCSI] >-- >Philip McDunnough -- [Tzeng Ruey Yuan] --yuan
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: t90yuan@mp.cs.niu.edu (yuan tzeng) Subject: Re: Info needed about $299.00 Nextstep for x86 Message-ID: <1993Jul25.205910.8935@mp.cs.niu.edu> Organization: Northern Illinois University References: <1993Jul23.185340.1603@umr.edu> <1993Jul23.222643.1344@leland.Stanford.EDU> Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1993 20:59:10 GMT ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This was not what I heard. Can anyboboy conform this? >> 1) Is the price still $299.00? > >I believe the $299 evaluation price goes until July 31. Since you're >at an edu address, I presume you'd also qualify for a $249 price for >the user+developer bundle. The two bundles differ a little, other -- [Tzeng Ruey Yuan] --yuan
Control: cancel <1993Jul25.205910.8935@mp.cs.niu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: t90yuan@mp.cs.niu.edu (yuan tzeng) Subject: cmsg cancel <1993Jul25.205910.8935@mp.cs.niu.edu> Message-ID: <1993Jul25.210547.30902@mp.cs.niu.edu> Sender: t90yuan@mp.cs.niu.edu (yuan tzeng) Organization: Northern Illinois University References: <1993Jul23.185340.1603@umr.edu> <1993Jul23.222643.1344@leland.Stanford.EDU> <1993Jul25.205910.8935@mp.cs.niu.edu> Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1993 21:05:47 GMT <1993Jul25.205910.8935@mp.cs.niu.edu> was cancelled from within rn. -- [Tzeng Ruey Yuan] --yuan
From: karthy@dannug.dk (Karsten Thygesen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Is anyone using a ZyXEL Fax modem on black NeXT?? Date: 25 Jul 1993 16:18:12 GMT Organization: Dannug - Danish NeXT Users Group Distribution: world Message-ID: <KARTHY.93Jul25181812@dannug.dannug.dk> References: <22ptes$3gk@hub.ucsb.edu> In-reply-to: doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu's message of 23 Jul 1993 23:49:48 GMT >>>>> On 23 Jul 1993 23:49:48 GMT, doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu (Douglas Scott) said: Douglas> Could someone who has successfully used a ZyXEL high-speed modem on a NeXT Douglas> please contact me? The literature claims it will work, but I am unable to: Douglas> 1) Dial out via tip or kermit Douglas> 2) Log in once I dial up the modem from outside Douglas> 3) Send a fax out via the built-in OS 3.0 fax software Douglas> 4) Receive a fax I use ZyXEL with great success, but: 1) To dial out using tip I use this entry added in /etc/remote: # Next added karthy 920716 b38400|comm|Hardwire on ttyb at 38400 baud:\ :dv=/dev/cufb:br#38400:el=^C^S^Q^U^D:ie=%$:oe=^D: The I type: "tip comm" where after the modem returns with "connected" and I can issue modem commands like "atdt12345678" where the number is a phone number. You can also issue other modem commands like "ati". I have been using this setup during a very long time without any problems. 2) To dial in you need to configure /etc/ttys. I use this entry: # modem should be on ttydfb "/usr/etc/getty D38400" vt100 on I can't remember if D38400 is a standard entry in /etc/gettytab, but here is my entry anyway: w|D38400|Fast-Dial-38400:\ :nx=D19200:tc=38400-baud: 3 + 4) It is not possible to either send or receive fax with the standard 3.0 NeXTSTEP operating system. To use the fax capabilities, you need to get an external fax program. I use NXFax with great success. NXFax provides transparent faxing so that you can use the standard NeXT printpanel to send faxes and use NeXT Faxreader to view received faxes. It also supports both dialin and receive of fax on the same port and it works with tip, kermit, SLiP and PPP. If you still have problems, then let me know and you can get a copy of my setup files. Good luck, Karsten.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: stephane@planon.qc.ca Subject: Re: Can a Mac/PC use NeXT's Color Monitor? Message-ID: <1993Jul25.182953.1246@CAM.ORG!planon> Sender: stephane@CAM.ORG!planon References: <1993Jul23.233546.2770@newsgate.sps.mot.com> Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1993 18:29:53 GMT In article <1993Jul23.233546.2770@newsgate.sps.mot.com> charles@raiders.sps.mot.com (Charles Chan) writes: > Hi, there, > > I would like to know if there is a way for > My Mac/PC to use NeXT's color monitor. There is little chance you can use a NeXT color monitor with about anything else. This is a fix scan monitor adapted for the specification of NeXT. Almost every PC need to work with a multi-scan monitor, since usually, they first boot in VGA type resolution, and then later switch to higher resolution. NeXT color monitor doesn't support that and it does not support VGA resolution for sure. On a mac you would have to find a graphic board that fits exactly the scanning of your monitor (refresh speed, Horizontal an Vertical sync, blanking). Not if you decide to buy such a board, try it before with your monitor, don't buy it just on specification, this can be very, very tricky... Stephane Savard Director R&D Planon Telexpertise Inc. 1370 Joliot-Curie #708 Boucherville, Quebec Canada, J4B 7L9 Email: stephane@planon.qc.ca (NeXTmail accepted and appreciated!)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer From: ntomczak@vega.math.ualberta.ca (N Tomczak-Jaegermann) Subject: NS 3.1 - how to find out where you are logged in?? Message-ID: <ntomczak.743588082@vega> Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1993 08:14:42 GMT After a switch to version 3.1 of OS I found that I cannot distinguish anymore if a user is logged in directly on NeXT, or via some networked terminal. This information is rather vital for some of my uses. Up to now there was an environment variabiable "Workspace" which was set in the first case, but not in the second. It looks like that it vanished. Does anybody know if there is some other clever way to get this information, or I have to write a special program which will muck with an environment and which I will have to hook up with 'dwrite Workspace LaunchPaths'? Also it is me unable to find a proper magic sequence or vt100 emulation in a new version of Terminal is terminally broken? Keypad used to send various escape sequences, but now most of them seems to be gone, and what remains is in wrong positions. I do need a stuff like PF11 when communicating with some machines! For now I went back to Terminal.app from 3.0, which restored an order, but if I would be starting with 3.1 I would be rather unhappy. Or I really do miss something? I wonder what is a purpose of introducing new bugs in a stuff which used to work without any special problems, especially when old, reported bugs seem to linger for years. Michal Jaegermann ntomczak@vega.math.ualberta.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware From: ntomczak@vega.math.ualberta.ca (N Tomczak-Jaegermann) Subject: Re: Is anyone using a ZyXEL Fax modem on black NeXT?? Message-ID: <ntomczak.743594464@vega> Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada References: <22ptes$3gk@hub.ucsb.edu> <KARTHY.93Jul25181812@dannug.dannug.dk> Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1993 10:01:04 GMT It looks like that everybody responding to this question propose to dial with 'atdt ...', whatever. This is, obviously, one way, but for more often used numbers you may add, for kermit, in your .kermrc lines like this: define this dial 5555555 define that dial 6666666 and just type 'this' or 'that' at a kermit prompt. This strings can more complicated, including requests for a pause when going through switchboard, and the like. For tip this requires a cooperation of your sysadmin, but it is possible to add in /etc/remote something in this style: this|this corp:\ :cm=atz\r:pn=5555555:hd:tc=dial38400: that|other place:\ :cm=at&k0&n14&m0\r:pn=6666666,:hd:tc=tip38400: If a number is @ then a file phones is searched (from PHONES env variable, default /etc/phones). Then a tip user may just try tip this (or tipx this) tip that (This capability may depend on a particular version of tip. Your mileage may vary). Michal Jaegermann ntomczak@vega.math.ualberta.ca
From: kschulz@iva.k8.rt.bosch.de (Kay Schulz K8/IVA Tel. ++49-7121-35-1341) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: emacs.app Message-ID: <166@boschrt.rt.bosch.de.bosch.de> Date: 26 Jul 93 05:13:59 GMT Sender: news@rt.bosch.de.bosch.de Organization: Robert Bosch GmbH., Reutlingen, Germany. Hi is there an emacs.app for NSI 3.1? I would like to have it. --- /* Kay Schulz kschulz@iva.k8.rt.bosch.de */ /* seit Sonntag solo */ /* ab 1.9. ohne Wohnung */ /* ab 1.10. ohne Job */
From: kschulz@iva.k8.rt.bosch.de (Kay Schulz K8/IVA Tel. ++49-7121-35-1341) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Info needed about $299.00 Nextstep for Message-ID: <167@boschrt.rt.bosch.de.bosch.de> Date: 26 Jul 93 05:24:49 GMT References: <1993Jul23.222643.1344@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@rt.bosch.de.bosch.de Organization: Robert Bosch GmbH., Reutlingen, Germany. CubeX started shipping their product. The demo is on the ftp servers coXist will shipp in the bginning of august hopefully --- /* Kay Schulz kschulz@iva.k8.rt.bosch.de */ /* seit Sonntag solo */ /* ab 1.9. ohne Wohnung */ /* ab 1.10. ohne Job */
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc From: chris@iastate.edu (Chris Wong) Subject: NeXTSTEP 3.1 639K base memory!!! Message-ID: <chris.743666850@du139-210.cc.iastate.edu> Sender: news@news.iastate.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1993 06:07:30 GMT I've got a Dell 450DE/2 DGX system. When I start NeXTSTEP, it reports 639K base memory. I can't beleive this, so I check it with msd.exe from Windows. It reports 639K too. But, when I start the computer, the BIOS memory test reports 640K? I cann Dell, the technical support rep told me not to rely on software result. I doubt it. Can someone justify this? Anyone using DGX? Chris. -- Chris Wong | "Hardware is supposed to serve Software." chris@iastate.edu | Computer Engineering & Computer Science twba8@isuvax.iastate.edu | Iowa State University of Science and Technology
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: fyr@ubszh.net.ch Subject: Re: E-Mail address for NeXTWorld Content-Type: text/plain Message-ID: <fyr.93Jul2611489@nol512> Sender: usenet@ubszh.net.ch (news) Organization: Union Bank of Switzerland References: <22d4o3$fhe@news.acns.nwu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1993 10:48:09 GMT > Hi, > > I need to post a change of my address to the NeXTWorld > Subscription. Does anybody know their E-mail address XXX.nextworld.com so > that I can send my request over the E-Mail instead of U.S. Mail? > Hello Gary I changed my address by sending a mail to "subscrip@nextworld.com" and after I send the mail about 4 time a guy (jason@nextworld.com) aswered me. Bye Roger --- Union Bank of Switzerland Roger P. Frey LHIS/LHDD-FYR Flurstrasse 68 CH-8048 Zurich Switzerland phone: +41 1 236 60 52 fax: +41 1 236 86 08 RFC822: fyr@ubszh.net.ch (NeXT-Mail ok)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: meyergru@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Uwe Meyer-Gruhl) Subject: sethostid() patch for NS3.1 (black) Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Originator: meyergru@hpradigc.informatik.tu-muenchen.de Sender: news@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (USENET Newssystem) Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1993 10:35:22 GMT Message-ID: <1993Jul26.103522.21490@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE> Hi Folks, a while back, I posted this article (just to save some typing here): +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Some people have asked me how the mentioned patch to get more than 16 buffers is done. Well, hackers, first I should note that /sdmach is _not_ stripped (sic!). Need I say more? The rest is up to you, happy disassembling... Nah, just kidding (but not quite, I just don't expect everybody to do things like that, even if they're possible). So here we go: The following output was generated by applying 'cmp -l /sdmach.old /sdmach': sdmach.binpatch: ---- CUT HERE ---- 334079 166 116 334080 20 161 334081 43 116 334082 303 161 334083 4 116 334084 11 161 334085 70 116 334086 24 161 579602 0 1 579607 240 217 579608 214 206 604776 0 200 ---- CUT HERE ---- The patch consists of three parts. From offset 334079 to 334086 there were instructions that set the number of buffers to 16(decimal). Those instructions are NOPed out. The WORD at offset 604773 is the number of buffers, which is set to 128(decimal) in this case, so that 1 MByte of buffers are allocated. Only the last byte (604776) has been changed. The third part is the table entry at 579602, which enables the otherwise nonfunctional 'sethostid()' call. This patch has been posted a while ago by Eric P. Scott, if I remember right. For those of you who want to patch /sdmach by means of 'Moni' or 'HexEditor', be warned. The offsets from 'cmp -l' start with '1', not '0'. The byte values given are in octal. For those with less trust in their capabilities (or simply lazy people), here is the 'binpatch' program, which has been posted a while ago together with the 'lpd' 38400 baud patch by Marc A. Ullman. binpatch.c: ---- CUT HERE ---- /* * binpatch.c - apply output of "cmp -l" to patch a binary file * * This simple program takes the output from "cmp -l" and applies it as a set * of patches to a given input file. The input file itself is modified and no * backup file is created. Thus if a backup of the original is desired (highly * recommended), create it before using binpatch. An example of its use * follows: * * Assume that you have the file "lpd.diff" that resulted from: * % cmp -l lpd.broken lpd.fixed > lpd.diff * * Now do the following to apply the patch: * % cp -p lpd lpd.broken * % binpatch -f lpd.diff lpd * * lpd will now be identical to lpd.fixed. This is of course useful when you * have only the original and the diff file and wish to recreate the patched * version. * * Compile using: cc -O -Wall -o binpatch binpatch.c * * Copyright (C) 1991 by Marc Ullman * All Rights Reserved * December 16, 1991 */ static char rcsid[] = "$Header: /local/src/tools/binpatch/RCS/binpatch.c,v 1.1 91/12/16 12:05:50 marc Exp $"; #include <stdio.h> #include <stdarg.h> #include <stdlib.h> #define ARGUMENTS "-f diff_file input_file\n" \ " The diff_file is created by \"cmp -l orig.file modified.file > diff.file\"" static char *program_name = NULL; static char *input_file_name = NULL; static char *diff_file_name = NULL; /* Print error message while exiting due to unrecoverable error */ /* Use variable argument list to support multiple arguments to printf */ static void Error_Exit(char *error_msg, ...) { va_list ap; va_start(ap, error_msg); fprintf(stderr, "%s: ", program_name); vfprintf(stderr, error_msg, ap); va_end(ap); exit(1); } static void Usage() { fprintf(stderr, "Usage: %s %s\n", program_name, ARGUMENTS); exit(1); } static void Process_Arguments(int argc, char *argv[]) { int i; for (i = 1; i <= (argc - 1); i++) { if (*argv[i] == '-') { switch (*(argv[i]+1)) { case 'f' : /* diff_file */ if (i < (argc - 1)) { diff_file_name = argv[++i]; } else { Usage(); } break; default : Error_Exit("invalid option '-%c'\n", *(argv[i]+1)); break; } } else { input_file_name = argv[i]; } } /* Check that we got diff_file and input file */ if ((input_file_name == NULL) || (diff_file_name == NULL)) { Usage(); } } void error_exit(FILE *diff_file, FILE *input_file) { fclose(diff_file); fclose(input_file); exit(EXIT_FAILURE); } void main(int argc, char *argv[]) { FILE *diff_file; FILE *input_file; int count = 0; unsigned long offset; unsigned int c1, c2, c; program_name = argv[0]; Process_Arguments(argc, argv); if ((diff_file = fopen(diff_file_name, "r")) == NULL) { Error_Exit("can't read %s\n", diff_file_name); } if ((input_file = fopen(input_file_name, "r+")) == NULL) { Error_Exit("can't read %s\n", input_file_name); } do { count = fscanf(diff_file, "%lu %o %o", &offset, &c1, &c2); if (count == EOF) { break; } else if (count != 3) { printf("Error reading %s\n", diff_file_name); error_exit(diff_file, input_file); } offset--; /* cmp -l returns base 1 offsets */ #ifdef DEBUG printf("%.8x %.2x %.2x\n", offset, c1, c2); #endif if (fseek(input_file, offset, SEEK_SET) != 0) { printf("Error seeking in %s\n", input_file_name); error_exit(diff_file, input_file); } c = fgetc(input_file); if (c1 != c) { printf("Patch file differs from input file at offset %.8x: %.2x %.2x\n", offset, c, c1); } else { fseek(input_file, offset, SEEK_SET); fputc(c2, input_file); } } while (feof(diff_file) == 0); fclose(diff_file); fclose(input_file); exit(EXIT_SUCCESS); } ---- CUT HERE ---- To patch /sdmach, extract the two included files above to some arbitrary directory, 'chdir' there and then issue (as root): cc -O -Wall -o binpatch binpatch.c cp /sdmach /sdmach.old ./binpatch -f sdmach.binpatch /sdmach You will remain with the original version of /sdmach in /sdmach.old (so you could always boot the old version with 'bsd()sdmach.old' from the ROM monitor) and the newer version in /sdmach. Reboot and you're set. Patch as patch can! And remember: No Guarantees! You can also use 'b sd() sdmach nbuf=128', but you cannot save strings longer than 12 characters to NVM. However, for testing purposes this should suffice. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Now it is about time for NS3.1 (black)! NeXT has already done half of the work for us, the number of buffers is now calculated from the memory available, I haven't verified this, but at least the number seems big enough for my 32MB color slab. So much for the buffer issue. This is the sethostid() patch for NS3.1 (black) (NS/FIP should pose no problem since the number is always zero): --- CUT HERE --- 665598 0 1 665603 122 100 665604 360 274 --- CUT HERE --- (Hi, Dmitri!) cheers, Uwe Uwe Meyer-Gruhl Confucius say: Lehrstuhl Informatik IX "Unlucky to play leapfrog with unicorn" Technische Universitaet Muenchen email:MeyerGru@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE Orleansstr. 34, D-81667 Muenchen tel: ++49 89 48095-209
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: rick@TotSysSoft.com (Richard Jacoby) Subject: FIP Gateway problems solved Message-ID: <1993Jul26.091433.1150@ToTSySSoft.com> Sender: news@ToTSySSoft.com Organization: Total System Software Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1993 09:14:33 GMT Thanks for all the responses regarding our problems getting FIP to run on a Gateway. (I think comp.sys.next should bill NeXT for the Great support provided). :^D Anyway, all in all we only had 2 problems. The first one wa solved by Mitch Glass here is his solution: >I had a similar problem with my Gateway, and it turned out >that the internal cables to the serial connectors were swapped, so that >what I thought was COMA/COM1 was really COMB/COM2. You might >double-check both the cables and the Phoenix BIOS setup to >make sure the COM ports are what you think they are. Sure enough that was it. He posted a "summary of my Gateway installation adventures" a few weeks ago.. Mitch, I think you should repost it every couple of weeks for a while until things settle down!!! Any way between the time we got his first message which solved the problem, and his summary, we got it up. We were able to setup the configuration. When we got to the mouse, we knew we had a serial mouse, and that it was set to a PS2mouse, but it was working, so we decided to not fool with it. Well after the reboot no mouse and no way to set it. We tried editing the config files by hand, but never got it to work. That night we got home and found Mitch's summary which said that you must select the serial mouse on setup... If only we had read it a few hours earlier. Well back to the net to ask advice. Thanks to the countless people who sent the solution. (I guess they read the manual. I myself am a highly principled person, and that's against my principals. :^) [Just kidding] The solution is to type at the boot prompt: config=Default Seriously we had read about it, and even tried it when we had the first problem, but of course it didn't work then. So we forgot about it and never came back to it. Well it worked it puts you in a minimal mode that has mouse control no matter what you are using. You log in as root, set your mouse up reboot, and its all fixed. Again, Thanks for all the help. Now, any advice on those serial ports. Is there any way to use them safely? Any way to get mail up between to machines at any speed without crashing?? Rick
From: fitzy@titan.ucs.umass.edu (JOSEPH E FITZGERALD) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP 3.1 639K base memory!!! Followup-To: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Date: 26 Jul 1993 13:04:54 GMT Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst Message-ID: <230kpm$3nr@nic.umass.edu> References: <chris.743666850@du139-210.cc.iastate.edu> Chris Wong (chris@iastate.edu) wrote: : I've got a Dell 450DE/2 DGX system. : When I start NeXTSTEP, it reports 639K base memory. : I can't beleive this, so I check it with msd.exe from Windows. It : reports 639K too. : But, when I start the computer, the BIOS memory test reports 640K? : I cann Dell, the technical support rep told me not to rely on software : result. I doubt it. : Can someone justify this? Anyone using DGX? I would guess that the EISA configuration is stored using that 1K of memory. That's how my Micronics EISA/VESA machine does it anyway (seems strange to me bucuase I have a clone that doesn't seem to do that...but well, I guess there isn't too much I can do about it, eh?). Joe Fitzgerald fitzy@titan.ucs.umass.edu
From: mbsmith@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Matthew B Smith) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Mac sound files Date: 26 Jul 1993 13:24:24 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Distribution: world Message-ID: <230lu8$kss@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Are there any applications floating about that I may use to convert Mac sound files into those compatable with the NeXT platform? Thanks in advance. M. Bradley Smith mbsmith@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
From: dbora@ils.nwu.edu (Donald Bora) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Question concerning CD-ROM and audio Date: 26 Jul 1993 15:01:18 GMT Organization: The Institute for the Learning Sciences Distribution: world Message-ID: <230rju$4d3@anaxagoras.ils.nwu.edu> To anyone: I have hooked up a NEC CD-ROM drive to my cube. I am trying to use the CDPlayer program to play cd-audio off the CD-ROM drive and it is not working. Any suggestions? -*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* Donald F. Bora | | | The Institute for the Learning Sciences | | O | Northwestern University | (--|--) Evanston, Ill | | e-mail: dbora@ils.nwu.edu | / \ work: (708) 467-1972 | --------Be excellent to each other--------
From: treed@friday.bmt.gun.com (Timothy Reed) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: summary : vendors of NS/i systems Date: 26 Jul 1993 10:31:29 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9307261523.AA00869@friday.bmt.gun.com> The best way to get in touch with Alpine is to call or fax them directly - Kris will be the first to admit that his e-mail is pretty screwed up. I made the the mistake of assuming that e-mail to Kris worked a while ago - resulting in all kinds of horrible misunderstandings. Best thing to do is give him a call. Tim --- Tim Reed, Black Market Technologies Voice: +1 718 522-5090 Fax: +1 718 852-4249 E-mail: treed@bmt.gun.com "Reading documentation is an admission of failure." In comp.sys.next.misc article <1993Jul24.200144.22715@newshost.lanl.gov> you wrote: > In article <69565@mimsy.umd.edu> baratoff@cfar.umd.edu (Gregory Baratoff) > writes: > > Company : Alpine Computing > > Email : yf5990@u.cc.utah.edu (Kris' email) > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > When I sent mail to this address, it bounced back -- no such user > known. Worse, when I sent mail to kris@doberman.com (an address > on a fax I received from him in June), it also bounced -- > unknown user! -- Tim Reed, Black Market Technologies Voice: +1 718 522-5090 Fax: +1 718 852-4249 E-mail: treed@bmt.gun.com "Reading documentation is an admission of failure."
From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Nova needs more disk space Message-ID: <69623@mimsy.umd.edu> Date: 26 Jul 93 15:16:41 GMT References: <1993Jul23.232208.1434@nimno.wpa.com> <16C15B9D8.UC512052@mizzou1.missouri.edu> Sender: news@mimsy.umd.edu Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742 john@wpa.com (John Bartley) writes: > I'm still willing to contribute to buy more disk space . . . . me too BUT it sure would make sense to universally switch to gzip -9 instead of compress on the archive. it could easily recover 20-30% of the space. -- Alex Blakemore alex@cs.umd.edu NeXT mail accepted -------------------------------------------------------------- "Without an engaged and motivated human being at the keyboard, the computer is just another dumb box." William Raspberry
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc From: mjh@cs.vu.nl (Huisjes MJ) Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP 3.1 639K base memory!!! Message-ID: <CAs3n0.9Is@cs.vu.nl> Sender: news@cs.vu.nl Organization: Fac. Wiskunde & Informatica, VU, Amsterdam References: <chris.743666850@du139-210.cc.iastate.edu> <230kpm$3nr@nic.umass.edu> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1993 15:42:36 GMT fitzy@titan.ucs.umass.edu (JOSEPH E FITZGERALD) writes: } Chris Wong (chris@iastate.edu) wrote: } : I've got a Dell 450DE/2 DGX system. } : When I start NeXTSTEP, it reports 639K base memory. } : I can't beleive this, so I check it with msd.exe from Windows. It } : reports 639K too. } : But, when I start the computer, the BIOS memory test reports 640K? } : I cann Dell, the technical support rep told me not to rely on software } : result. I doubt it. } : Can someone justify this? Anyone using DGX? } I would guess that the EISA configuration is stored using that 1K of memory. } That's how my Micronics EISA/VESA machine does it anyway (seems strange to } me bucuase I have a clone that doesn't seem to do that...but well, I guess } there isn't too much I can do about it, eh?). } Joe Fitzgerald } fitzy@titan.ucs.umass.edu My 386 BIOS (AMI) has an option where to locate 256 bytes ram for the BIOS if needed. It has two options : 1) fixed at some low memory address (30:0 I think) 2) reduce base memory by 1K -- Maarten Huisjes. mjh@cs.vu.nl (192.31.231.42) (..!uunet.uu.net!cs.vu.nl!mjh)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: wherndon@smiley.mitre.org (William Herndon) Subject: More bad experiences with NeXTWORLD. Message-ID: <1993Jul26.152415.17109@linus.mitre.org> Sender: news@linus.mitre.org (News Service) Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean, VA Distribution: usa Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1993 15:24:15 GMT Well, for the second time since I got into NeXT, about 4 years ago, I've been screwed by NeXTWorld. The first time, not only did I NOT receive my "free year" promised with my NeXTCube purchase, NeXTWorld terminated the subscription, that I HAD paid for, early. After a years hiatus, I decided to give NeXTWorld another try. I respon- ded to a $21.95 yearly (6 issue) subscription mailing in January of 93. As of March 1 had received no issues of NeXTWorld, but I had received my bill. I promptly paid the bill, hoping that my issues would soon follow. They did not. The first issue that I received was the the April/May issue of NeXTWorld, which arrived in the 1st week of May, fully 6 WEEKS after it hit the newsstand. Furious, because I had long since purchased that issue of NeXTWorld, I called their customer service line and explained the sit- uation. The very courteous lady who took my call agreed that I shouldn't have received that issue so late, and when I asked to have my subscript- ion cancelled and a refund sent, she again agreed and informed me that I could expect a check in about 4 to 6 weeks. The check never came. What did come was my June/July issue of NeXTWorld, 3 weeks after it hit the newsstands, and again after I'd already purchased the issue. (I had naively assumed that my subscription had been cancelled per my request.) Now completely at a loss, I did nothing until after the August issue arrived, last week. On Friday the 23rd I again called the customer ser- vice line, and was informed by a very rude lady this time, that first, they had no record of my original call; second, as far as they were con- cerned it was my word against theirs about the lateness or non-delivery of issues, and that I was obviously in the wrong; third, that if I did continue to insist on a refund, they would send me exactly $7.95; and finally, that according to their computer, I was not entitled to any more issues of NeXTWorld. I strenuously objected to the last two points. I pointed out that even if I had received the Feb./March issue, that still made only 4 issues, and I was entitled to 6, as per the subscription terms. What I was told next boggled my mind. The customer service rep. told me that because of the new monthly basis for NeXTWorld, the first three issues of 1993 were being counted as "double-issues", that I'd received effectively 7 issues (more than I was entitled to), and that my subscription was term- inated. At this point, way beyond wanting to continue arguing with people who obviously don't care at all about their customers, I told them to keep their damn $7.95 and hung up. I guarantee that I will never deal with NeXTWorld again. Although I find the idea of wishing ill on a NeXT related enterprise repugnant, I hope that NeXTWorld goes the way of the NeXT's hardware business, and maybe if we're lucky, NeXTWorld will be replaced by a magazine who's managers are not so arrogant to believe that they can rip-off and piss on their subscribing customers. I've been treated badly by magazine subscription departments in the past, but never as badly as I've been treated by NeXTWorld. One person's experience... - Max | William R. Herndon \ The MITRE Corporation, Dept. G023 | | EMail: wherndon@mitre.org \ Secure Information Technology | | NeXTMail: <out of order> \ MS-Z231, 703.883.6393 | | | | "The world bores you when you're cool." - Calvin |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer From: ntomczak@vega.math.ualberta.ca (N Tomczak-Jaegermann) Subject: Re: NS 3.1 - how to find out where you are logged in?? Message-ID: <ntomczak.743643953@vega> Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada References: <ntomczak.743588082@vega> Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1993 23:45:53 GMT ntomczak@vega.math.ualberta.ca (N Tomczak-Jaegermann) writes: (actually Michal Jaegermann, but this is beside the point :-)) >After a switch to version 3.1 of OS I found that I cannot distinguish >anymore if a user is logged in directly on NeXT, or via some networked >terminal. This information is rather vital for some of my uses. Following my own article: for my own uses now the following line in .cshrc, or some variant of thereof for other shells, does the trick tty | grep -s '^/dev/tty[pq]' && setenv Workspace " " This helps when other terminal is connected via serial line, since then tty will return either /dev/ttya, or /dev/ttyb, or something similar. Therefore $Workspace is getting set only if you are opening Terminal.app window from Workspace and other stuff which checked for its presence works like before. At this moment I do not know if something like this would work for terminals hooked via Ethernet. Any info? My other question about vt100 emulation and function keys still stands. Michal Jaegermann ntomczak@vega.math.ualberta.ca
From: volks@tempest.cis.uoguelph.CA (Lorraine Van Wingerden) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Summary: Re: Pen-based computing for the NeXT ??? Date: 26 Jul 1993 13:11:11 -0400 Organization: The Ohio State University Sender: daemon@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Message-ID: <9307261809.AA00271@tempest.cis.uoguelph.ca> I recently posted a question to the net requesting information about penbased computing. Here is my original question: > Hello, > > Is anyone doing pen-based computing using NeXTstep > (either for Intel, or on black hardware)? > Is it possible? > > I am interested in finding any information on any > hardware or software that supports pen-based computing > of any kind in the NeXTstep environment. Are there > any development supports? > > I noticed that there is a tablet installer (InstallTablet.app) > on our system in /NextAdmin. Has anyone connected a tablet > to a NeXT system? > > Thank you for any comments or information. > > Lorraine Van Wingerden > (please send e-mail to volks@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca) > I have received a bit of information. Here is a very quick summary of the information: From: serge@talus.com (Serguei Bakhteiarov) > Talus Corp. already did the driver for LightPen from > Design Technology (Certainly for NS/FIP). It.... just > works .... :-) as NeXT's officials like to tell.... > He also told me that Design Technology has the rights for the distribution, and they can be reached at: 11489 Woodside Avenue Santee, CA 92071-4724 ph: (619) 448-2888 (619)488-3044 (fax) e-mail: 73650.443@compuserve.com so I contacted them and received some more information: From: David Wineberg <73650.443@CompuServe.COM> > We have a driver for our internal card for NeXT 486, [some stuff deleted] > We have > several {_pen models available: anodized aluminum, > stainless steel, plastic sheathed, in nosetip switch or > sideswitch versions. Also a long range (10-12 feet) for > handicapped applications. > The internal card is already available for use in IBM PCs, > compatibles. The external interface is already > available for IBM PCs, compatibles, and PS/2. > We're not ready with NeXT literature, but if you'd like, I > could mail you hard copy of our literature for IBM > systems. We hope to have the NeXT version available in a > matter of weeks. I hope to be receiving some more information from them. Thank you to the people who responded. Of course, more information is always welcome! Lorraine Van Wingerden --- +-----------------------------------------------------------------+ | Lorraine Van Wingerden volks@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca | | University of Guelph tel. (519) 824-4120 Ext. 2713 | | Guelph, Ontario, Canada -- NeXT mail gladly accepted! -- | +-----------------------------------------------------------------+
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: thompson@netcom.com (Eric Thompson) Subject: Re: More bad experiences with NeXTWORLD. Message-ID: <thompsonCAs7w0.9ny@netcom.com> Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) References: <1993Jul26.152415.17109@linus.mitre.org> Distribution: usa Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1993 17:14:24 GMT wherndon@smiley.mitre.org (William Herndon) writes: > [ how he got screwed by NeXTWorld ] Well, I've never subscribed to NeXTworld. When I got 3.1 it said I was entitled to a free *issue*, which I could get by e-mailing them, so I did. No response. No issue. I figure about the fastest way to get a copy is off the newsstand-- less headaches, and I can find it the day it comes out if I want to! It *would* be nice if they got their act together, though. Sometimes I feel like their issues are just re-hashes of what I've read on the net already.. maybe they should call themselves comp.sys.nextWatch :) later, Eric
From: hickman@cse.unl.edu (Hubert B. Hickman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NS/FIP Dual Boot program Date: 26 Jul 1993 19:00:42 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Distribution: world Message-ID: <2319krINNt0@crcnis1.unl.edu> I did a DOS 6.0 upgrade on a DOS partition on a NS/FIP machine. But, it seems that DOS 6.0 (being the nice friendly upgrade that it is) wiped out the boot manager that used to exist and ask which OS to boot. Now if the active partition is DOS, it boots DOS. If the active paritiion is NS, it boots NS, no questions asked in either case. I would guess that there is a hidden file or two lurking about somwehere on the DOS side that handles the dual boot, but does anyone know how to get the bootmanager back to working shape if the DOS partition has been "upgraded"? Thanks, Hubert Hickman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: vhs@qb.rhein-main.de (Volker Herminghaus-Shirai) Subject: Re: Canon hardware deal/NS on PPC --> Marketing in Europe Date: Mon, 26 Jul 93 14:04:54 GMT Message-ID: <1993Jul26.140454.27846@qb.rhein-main.de> References: <22mg2s$2b8@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Sender: vhs@qb.rhein-main.de (Volker Herminghaus-Shirai) In article <22mg2s$2b8@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> zmonster@athena.mit.edu (Eric M Hermanson) writes: [...] > **Forwarded Letter that I recived from an employee at NeXT who answered my Q: > > From: Bernhard_Woebker (Bernhard Woebker) > Date: Mon, 28 Jun 93 16:38:34 +0200 > To: Eric_Bragg > Subject: The Aussies are getting restless > Cc: sjobs, bernhard_Woebker, martin_york, james_higa > > Hi Eric, > > Australia is part of the territory we are discussing with Canon. In the last ET > meeting we decided to hold off on the "Canon countries" until we have reached > closure with them. > > Ingram Micro and NACSCORP are not allowed to sell outside North America. The > best is to point all of these request to Canon to put some pressure on them. > > Bernhard BTW Bernhard Woebker is head of NeXT Europe. Europe is for sure not handled by Canon. -- Volker Herminghaus-Shirai (vhs@qb.rhein-main.de) Computer industry: Industry in which the number of units sold of any given product is inversely proportional to its technical excellence. See also: MS-DOS, MS-Windows, PC, X, QWERTY, 80x86, TrueType
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: request sites for nntp access to comp.sys.next.* Date: 26 Jul 1993 16:39:18 -0400 Organization: Digital Fix Development Distribution: world Message-ID: <231fdm$1m6@digifix.digifix.com> Hi all I've just converted to an IP connection, and in the hope of ensuring the fast propagation of outgoing comp.sys.next.announce stuff, and prompt reception of comp.sys.next.* by me, I was wondering if there is anyone who would be willing to allow me access to their nntp server. Thanks Scott -- - Scott Anguish - sanguish@digifix.com (NextMail) next-announce@digifix.com (comp.sys.next.announce submissions)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: silbar@cantina.lanl.gov (Dick Silbar) Subject: Re: More bad experiences with NeXTWORLD. Message-ID: <1993Jul26.202301.9794@newshost.lanl.gov> Sender: news@newshost.lanl.gov Organization: Los Alamos National Lab References: <1993Jul26.152415.17109@linus.mitre.org> Distribution: usa Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1993 20:23:01 GMT In article <1993Jul26.152415.17109@linus.mitre.org> wherndon@smiley.mitre.org (William Herndon) writes: > > Well, for the second time since I got into NeXT, about 4 years ago, I've > been screwed by NeXTWorld. > ...[long familiar sad tale deleted]... > I've been treated badly by magazine > subscription departments in the past, but never as badly as I've been > treated by NeXTWorld. > > One person's experience... > I'm afraid it's my experience also (and, I suspect, MANY others). I've never known a magazine's subscription service to be so awful! Dick Silbar
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: henry@trilithon.com (Henry McGilton) Subject: Re: Mac sound files Message-ID: <1993Jul26.160806.203@trilithon.com> Sender: henry@trilithon.com Organization: Trilithon Software References: <230lu8$kss@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1993 16:08:06 GMT In article <230lu8$kss@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> mbsmith@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Matthew B Smith) writes: * Are there any applications floating about that I may use to convert Mac * sound files into those compatable with the NeXT platform? MetroTools from MetroSoft has a Mac sound converter. Mail to info@metrosoft.com ........ Henry
Message-ID: <rv$@byu.edu> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 93 15:13:03 MDT From: yackd@idaho.et.byu.edu (Don Yacktman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Distribution: usa References: <1993Jul26.152415.17109@linus.mitre.org> <1993Jul26.202301.9794@newshost.lanl.gov> Organization: Brigham Young University, Provo UT USA Subject: Re: More bad experiences with NeXTWORLD. In article <1993Jul26.202301.9794@newshost.lanl.gov>, silbar@cantina.lanl.gov (Dick Silbar) writes: >In article <1993Jul26.152415.17109@linus.mitre.org> >wherndon@smiley.mitre.org (William Herndon) writes: >> >> Well, for the second time since I got into NeXT, about 4 years ago, I've >> been screwed by NeXTWorld. >> ...[long familiar sad tale deleted]... >> I've been treated badly by magazine >> subscription departments in the past, but never as badly as I've been >> treated by NeXTWorld. >> One person's experience... >I'm afraid it's my experience also (and, I suspect, MANY others). I've >never known a magazine's subscription service to be so awful! You know, it would also be nice if my subscription showed up in my mailbox _before_ the magazine turns up on newsstands. In fact, I personally find the 1-2 week delay from seeing it in the local _grocery_store_ to seeing it in my mailbox is unacceptable. And the only part that's fun to read anymore is Lt. Sullivan...some of those rumors get even more creative than what I see here occasionally. At least I haven't been treated rudely by the telephone sanitizers they hire to run the phones...but then again, I haven't called to complain either. I get enough abuse from other sources as it is... :) Later, -- Don_Yacktman@byu.edu Nepotism is a relative thing.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: conway@bnk014.enet.dec.com (Mark Conway) Subject: Getting rid of NEXTSTEP boot block Message-ID: <CAsHHF.8I3@ryn.mro4.dec.com> Sender: news@ryn.mro4.dec.com (USENET News System) Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Marlboro, MA Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1993 20:41:39 GMT We tried installing NEXTSTEP on a DECstation 425c PC (just to try it), and it failed. So we reinstalled DOS, but when we boot, the screen continuously prints the message NeXT boot1 v1.17 NeXT boot1 v1.17 NeXT boot1 v1.17 NeXT boot1 v1.17 NeXT boot1 v1.17 and does not boot. How do we fix this? Thanks - Mark P.S. Believe me, we would have been a lot happier if the NEXTSTEP installation just worked. P.P.S. We have already tried "format /s" commands with no luck.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,com From: jbowyer@cis.vutbr.cz (Bowyer Jeff) Subject: International Software Organization: Technical University of Brno, Czech Republic Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1993 07:21:33 GMT Message-ID: <1993Jul26.072133.2884@cis.vutbr.cz> Please share your expertise with our mailing list. INSOFT-L on LISTSERV@CIS.VUTBR.CZ Internationalization of Software Discussion List Internationalization of software relates to two subjects: 1. Software that is written so a user can easily change the language of the interface; 2. Versions of software, such as Czech WordPerfect, whose interface language differs from the original product. Topics discussed on this list include: -- Techniques for developing new software -- Techniques for converting existing software -- Internationalization tools -- Announcements of internationalized public domain software -- Announcements of foreign-language versions of commercial software -- Calls for papers -- Conference announcements -- References to documentation related to the internationalization of software This list is moderated. To subscribe to this list, send an electronic mail message to LISTSERV@CIS.VUTBR.CZ with the body containing the command: SUB INSOFT-L Yourfirstname Yourlastname Owner: Center for Computing and Information Services Technical University of Brno Udolni 19, 602 00 BRNO Czech Republic INSOFT-L-REQUEST@CIS.VUTBR.CZ
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: scwg0600@ih-nxt01.cso.uiuc.edu (Steven C Weintz) Subject: An observation re: NeXT, SGI newsgroups Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1993 22:57:53 GMT Message-ID: <CAsnsH.EBw@news.cso.uiuc.edu> Sender: usenet@news.cso.uiuc.edu (Net Noise owner) Keywords: NeXT, SGI Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana This is not crucial, but for what it's worth, I find the small (but growing?) number of cross-postings and messages between the c.s.next and the c.s.sgi newgroups intersting and welcome. Really Cool hardware and software for Real Computer Use...my $0.0002. -Steve Weintz scwg0600@sumter.cso.uiuc.edu
From: gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: More bad experiences with NeXTWORLD. Date: 27 Jul 1993 00:00:10 GMT Organization: University of Maryland, College Park Distribution: usa Message-ID: <231r6a$nt8@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> References: <1993Jul26.152415.17109@linus.mitre.org> <1993Jul26.202301.9794@newshost.lanl.gov> Of course my experiences with NeXTWORLD are as bad. Missed issues, late issues, no Extras, etc. It has been like my experiences subscribing to magazines in Italy: about 30% of the issues arrive, late. Many magazines took to selling vouchers that one takes to the newsstand (the kiosks are good even in small towns). However, this IS the US of A. Some things are more reliable (some, unfortunately reliable). Robert de Lucca
From: mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (alex) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Mac sound files Message-ID: <88614@ut-emx.uucp> Date: 26 Jul 93 23:31:41 GMT References: <230lu8$kss@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Sender: news@ut-emx.uucp Matthew B Smith writes > Are there any applications floating about that I may use to convert Mac > sound files into those compatable with the NeXT platform? > > Thanks in advance. > > M. Bradley Smith > mbsmith@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu MetroTools by MetroSoft will convert Mac "sfil" type sounds (and others) to NeXT soundfiles. The demo versions available on most ftp sites will run for about 20 minutes, I think. In addition to sounds, it converts type 1 fonts, makes and extracts .tar.Z files, has a dock extender, an elaborate file finder, and a screen saver (which plays BackSpace modules). It's a cool program all in all. -- =============================== Alex Currier mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu NeXTmail preferred! ===============================
From: mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (alex) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: More bad experiences with NeXTWORLD. Message-ID: <88613@ut-emx.uucp> Date: 26 Jul 93 23:28:41 GMT References: <1993Jul26.152415.17109@linus.mitre.org> Sender: news@ut-emx.uucp Distribution: usa William Herndon writes > I guarantee that I will never deal with NeXTWorld again. Although I > find the idea of wishing ill on a NeXT related enterprise repugnant, > I hope that NeXTWorld goes the way of the NeXT's hardware business, > and maybe if we're lucky, NeXTWorld will be replaced by a magazine who's > managers are not so arrogant to believe that they can rip-off and piss > on their subscribing customers. I've been treated badly by magazine > subscription departments in the past, but never as badly as I've been > treated by NeXTWorld. Well, I've paid for two separate NeXTWorld subscriptions over the past year and a half and I have gotten a total of two issues. Pretty much I have given up on actually getting my subscription issues as it is simply easier for me to run down to the local computer shop and just buy them on the spot. What really gripes me about NeXTWorld, however, is that they are too big to fit on a shelf and I have to stack them up out of the way. I might as well not buy them at all if they're going to sit under a pile of other books. -- =============================== Alex Currier mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu NeXTmail preferred! ===============================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: vhs@qb.rhein-main.de (Volker Herminghaus-Shirai) Subject: Re: summary : vendors of NS/i systems Date: Mon, 26 Jul 93 19:04:04 GMT Message-ID: <1993Jul26.190404.500@qb.rhein-main.de> References: <1993Jul24.102226.27704@crash> Sender: vhs@qb.rhein-main.de (Volker Herminghaus-Shirai) In article <1993Jul24.102226.27704@crash> coconut@crash.cts.com (Brian Dear) writes: [...] > He also told us we were buying a 340MB SCSI hard disk. That's what it > says on the receipt. Well, it's a 329MB drive. That might not mean > much of a difference to you, but with NEXTSTEP I need all the room I can > get, and he should have told me the real capacity. (I know all about > formatted vs unformatted -- I was led to believe it was a real 340MB > formatted capacity). It most probably is 340MB. Note that by default some percentage (10%) of the drive's capacity is reserved for the superuser and will not be reported as "free". That means, even if only 329MB are reported by Workspace you can (as super-user) fill the drive up to more than 100%! You can reduce the reserved area without reformatting your drive and destroying your data. Check the man page for tunefs. [...] > I regret not buying a NeXTstation Turbo Color. I would, too. > They work, Intel equipment doesn't. Sigh. Welcome to the PC world of kludges and hacks :-( -- Volker Herminghaus-Shirai (vhs@qb.rhein-main.de) Computer industry: Industry in which the number of units sold of any given product is inversely proportional to its technical excellence. See also: MS-DOS, MS-Windows, PC, X, QWERTY, 80x86, TrueType
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: jgg@proforma.com (J. G. Gregory) Subject: Re: summary : vendors of NS/i systems Message-ID: <1993Jul26.182031.1773@proforma.com> Sender: jgg@proforma.com Organization: LoftTech Incorporated References: <1993Jul24.115640.1094@crash> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1993 18:20:31 GMT In article <1993Jul24.115640.1094@crash> coconut@crash.cts.com (Brian Dear) writes: > >Followup to my flame on Alpine Computing. Mr. Magnusson called our office >today, Saturday, from his home, and helped answer my questions and resolve >my problems. I want the Net to know I am a satisfied customer of Alpine >and now have the Intel GX machine working. Mr. Magnusson has gone out >of his way to help and we appreciate that. > > >-- brian dear > coconut computing, inc. > la jolla, ca Just a darn minute. You made several complaints, not all of which could have been addressed by Mr. Magnusson from his home. Where was the hardware documentation? I don't doubt that Alpine might be one of the better vendors, but you were flinging complaints before. --J Gregory
From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Is anyone using a ZyXEL Fax modem on black NeXT?? Keywords: Fax modem ZyXEL Message-ID: <69687@mimsy.umd.edu> Date: 27 Jul 93 02:51:51 GMT References: <22ptes$3gk@hub.ucsb.edu> Sender: news@mimsy.umd.edu Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742 In article <22ptes$3gk@hub.ucsb.edu> doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu writes: > > Could someone who has successfully used a ZyXEL high-speed modem on a NeXT > please contact me? The literature claims it will work, but I am unable to: > > 1) Dial out via tip or kermit > 2) Log in once I dial up the modem from outside > 3) Send a fax out via the built-in OS 3.0 fax software > 4) Receive a fax > > In other words, I cant do anything with the thing! ZyXEL has not been able to > give my any help at all since they have no NeXTs there. They claim it works > fine when run via the software from Black and White -- but cant help me get it > working for simple things like using the modem as a regular dial-in dial-out > modem, which does not involve its fax capabilities at all. > > Here is some further information: > > The modem is a ZyXEL U-1496E. > > I have a "68040 Modem Cable" from NextConnection, which is wired correctly for > hardware flow control (I checked). > > I have tried many many different settings for the getty process -- using > /dev/ttyda and /dev/ttydfa, using std.2400, std.19200, D19200, etc., etc. > > When I attempt to connect to the modem via tip or kermit, the process hangs as > soon as it (supposedly) connects to the modem, and I get no response from the > modem, and I have to reboot the machine to kill the tip or kermit process! > > If anyone has any suggestions, I would be very grateful! > > Thanks. > > -- > Douglas Scott (805)893-8352 > Center for Computer Music Research and Composition > University of California, Santa Barbara > Internet: (NeXTMail ok) <doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu> it works fine for me. here is my /etc/tty entry: ttydfa "/usr/etc/getty D38400" vt100 off here is my .kermrc set line /dev/cufa set speed 38400 set modem hayes set file names literal set file type binary set file display fullscreen set receive packet-length 740 set window-size 8 set block-check 3 set parity none set flow none set terminal bytesize 8 set terminal character-set ascii ascii for fax stuff, make sure you run the NXFaxInstaller program. B&W software will answer questions and help you with that. there is also some useful help in the NXFax on line help and NeXT sysadmin docs. first see if you can get to the modem to speak hayes commands to it. %kermit >connect at OK at&v -- show settings ati0 -- show ROM version, should 6.02 at least at&f -- sets modem back to factory default settings DO THIS atz -- resets at$ -- help then try atdt to somewhere if that works, try dial in and add fax last good luck -- Alex Blakemore alex@cs.umd.edu NeXT mail accepted -------------------------------------------------------------- "Without an engaged and motivated human being at the keyboard, the computer is just another dumb box." William Raspberry
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: sela@iastate.edu (Brian J Morrison) Subject: .au to .snd Message-ID: <CAszux.9pB@news.iastate.edu> Sender: news@news.iastate.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1993 03:18:32 GMT Hello all, I was just wondering if some kind soul out there could email me on how to go about converting from .au to .snd (some program available somewhere or something). You help would be very much apreciated. Thanx in advance. Brian sela@iastate.edu
From: garyc@eecs.nwu.edu (Gary Chang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Color enhancement on NeXT monitor using Calibrator.app Date: 27 Jul 1993 03:41:07 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL USA Message-ID: <23284j$frv@news.acns.nwu.edu> Hi, To me, the Calibrator.app works more than just matching the screen colors to the printer. With little adjustment on the Gamma, Bright, Contrast and RGB values, I get a much better look on my NeXT Color monitor. It is a lot sharper and no longer looks washed-out. I currently have Calibrator.app sitting on the dock, and edit the nib file to change the default settings to meet my preference; so each time I only need to run Calibrator.app once to bring up a sharper image (without the loading process of the saved settings). However, sometimes I still find it too much a routine work to do so, is there a way load the new Adjustment values in the booting process? Thanks. -- +----------------+ | Gary I. Chang | +----------------+ Northwestern Univ. E-Mail: garyc@eecs.nwu.edu (NeXT-Mail O.K.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: coconut@crash.cts.com (Brian Dear) Subject: Intel GX questions Organization: Coconut Computing, Inc., La Jolla, CA Date: 26 Jul 93 20:34:26 PDT Message-ID: <1993Jul26.203426.21212@crash> Now that we own an Intel GX Professional running NEXTSTEP 3.1, running fine, I might add, as long as you don't ever shut down :-), I have a few questions. These may be FAQ's, but since there don't seem to be FAQ files anymore, I'll ask 'em: What's the latest news regarding the built-in CD quality audio in this Intel GX? Anyone have any idea when it will be supported? I miss the nice English lady who says, "Your printah is out of papah." While I'm at it, this machine has built-in SCSI support too. Any hope that it will be supported by NEXTSTEP? I could use my Adaptec 1542C in another machine. Also, is there any hope that NEXTSTEP for Intel machines will ever support MORE than one video card, like Macs do? I would like to have a 21" monitor for artwork while the 17" has all the Inspectors and other menu windows onscreen. Thanks in advance for any replies. -- brian dear coconut computing, inc. la jolla, ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: kramer@fragile.termfrost.org (Mike Andrews) Subject: Questions about getting the 3.1 upgrade [black] at educational prices... Message-ID: <CAt1rv.542@fragile.termfrost.org> Sender: kramer@fragile.termfrost.org (Mike Andrews) Organization: Terminal Frost, Springfield OH Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1993 03:59:54 GMT This is gonna make me look like an idiot, but so be it... I bought a used slab from someone at MIT a few months back, with the full 3.0 release (base+developer) on it. My school dosen't have a NeXT sales rep handy... what exactly is the pricing on the 3.1 upgrade CD's for educational folks and who (at NeXT) should I REALLY be asking all this?.. ;-) I've seen several different prices running around for various combos of the 3.1 parts, but haven't really kept up. The only assurance I have that NeXT even knows I exist is that Conrad Geiger mails me stuff occasionally ;-) Since one of the 3.1 things flying around was talk of a "july special", I figured I'd better ask now in case I miss out on something, but maybe that was for the Intel release... (I told you this was going to make me look like an idiot) Thanks much for any info... (and no comments about the bugginess of 3.1; if it's that bad, I'll go back to 3.0 and wait for 3.2...) -- Mike Andrews root@fragile.termfrost.org [NeXTmail OK] kramer@wittenberg.edu (school) "This guy's pretty bizarre, Gus." kramer@mik.uky.edu (hometown) -- Primus
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: hv@uwasa.fi (Harri Valkama) Subject: Re: Getting rid of NEXTSTEP boot block Message-ID: <1993Jul27.053419.8746@uwasa.fi> Organization: University of Vaasa, Finland References: <CAsHHF.8I3@ryn.mro4.dec.com> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1993 05:34:19 GMT In article <CAsHHF.8I3@ryn.mro4.dec.com> conway@bnk014.enet.dec.com (Mark Conway) writes: >We tried installing NEXTSTEP on a DECstation 425c PC (just >to try it), and it failed. So we reinstalled DOS, but when >we boot, the screen continuously prints the message > > NeXT boot1 v1.17 > >and does not boot. How do we fix this? I hope there is an easier solution than this: I got rid of that when low-level formatting the hard disk. Yes, I know that they say you can't low-level format an AT/IDE disk. But you can, with proper tools (like v5.x Disk Manager) >Thanks - Mark > >P.S. Believe me, we would have been a lot happier if > the NEXTSTEP installation just worked. > >P.P.S. We have already tried "format /s" commands with no > luck. -harri- -- ///// Harri Valkama, hv@uwasa.fi (also NeXTmail welcome) ///// University of Vaasa, P.O.Box 700, 65101 VAASA, Finland ///// Telephone: +358 61 324 8364 fax: +358 61 324 8465 ///// Anonymous ftp site moderator at garbo.uwasa.fi (128.214.87.1)
From: basiji@stein.u.washington.edu (David Basiji) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Intel GX questions Message-ID: <232it7$je@news.u.washington.edu> Date: 27 Jul 93 06:44:55 GMT Article-I.D.: news.232it7$je References: <1993Jul26.203426.21212@crash> Organization: University of Washington The on-board sound for the GX will be supported in 3.2. Strangely, there are no plans (by NeXT) to support the on-board SCSI last I heard. Hopefully, Intel will follow through on this glaring deficiency. Just to completely screw the situation with what could be NeXT's best Intel platform, 3.1 doesn't even work when using DMA for the IDE drive on the latest machines. When DMA is disabled, the system works fine, albeit more slowly. David Basiji UW Bioengineering
From: michi@cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Michele Giardini) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NS/FIP Dual Boot program Date: 27 Jul 1993 07:40:59 GMT Organization: Computer Science Dep. - Milan University Distribution: world Message-ID: <232m6b$b8d@ghost.sm.dsi.unimi.it> References: <2319krINNt0@crcnis1.unl.edu> Hubert B. Hickman writes > I did a DOS 6.0 upgrade on a DOS partition on a NS/FIP machine. But, it > seems that DOS 6.0 (being the nice friendly upgrade that it is) wiped out > the boot manager that used to exist and ask which OS to boot. Now if the > active partition is DOS, it boots DOS. If the active paritiion is NS, > it boots NS, no questions asked in either case. > I would guess that there is a hidden file or two lurking about > somwehere on the DOS side that handles the dual boot, but does > anyone know how to get the bootmanager back to working shape if the > DOS partition has been "upgraded"? There are three boot programs in /usr/standalone/boot/ : boot0, boot1 and boot. boot0 is the program you need. You can replace the Dos Master Boot Record with NeXT boot0 using /etc/disk : disk -B0 /usr/standalone/boot0 /dev/rsd0h You must be root to execute this command, and you must be careful that you specify the correct device (which may or may not be the one shown above) > Thanks, > Hubert Hickman Ciao Michele -- Giardini Michele - Computer Science Department State University of Milan - Coordinator of NeXT2You (The Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) Via Comelico 39/41 - 20135 Milano Tel. +39 2 55006385 Fax +39 2 55006373 Email: michi@cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (NeXT mail welcome)
From: cs438@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Denis Lafont) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Nova needs more disk space Date: 27 Jul 1993 12:42:27 GMT Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA) Message-ID: <2337rj$rvg@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> Sure nova should use gzip. We here have 3GB of datas (NS as well as Unix) and 3 months ago we have switch from compress to gzip. We save 30% of disk space. The only thing to do is to change path, in order for Opener to use gzip instead of compress... Denis -- _________________________________________________________________ Denis LAFONT, MIS Consultant for SCT (France) Tel: (+33) 35.75.19.43 --------- Fax: (+33) 35.75.43.12 e-mail : cs438@cleveland.freenet.edu -no NeXT Mail please ;-(-
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: cajho@uno.edu Subject: NSFIP w/16 bit color, 16 megs Message-ID: <1993Jul27.132446.23789@cs.uno.edu> Sender: news@cs.uno.edu Organization: University of New Orleans Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1993 13:24:46 GMT Are there any user of NSFIP out there using 16-bit color with only 16 megs? 16 megs is listed as the minimum, w/24 suggested. I would like to hear how NSFIP runs as a single-user system, with not TOO much going on at once, w/only 16 megs in 16-bit color. Thanks is advance for replies, Craig -- Craig Johnston | Q: How do you stop Bill Gates from drowning? cajho@uno.edu | A: Shoot him.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: gvh@metrosoft.com (Gordon Van Huizen) Subject: Re: Mac sound files Message-ID: <1993Jul27.092216.5546@metrosoft.com> Sender: gvh@metrosoft.com Organization: Metrosoft References: <230lu8$kss@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1993 09:22:16 GMT In article <230lu8$kss@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> mbsmith@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Matthew B Smith) writes: > Are there any applications floating about that I may use to convert Mac > sound files into those compatable with the NeXT platform? There's GISO which is a public domain utility (a front-end to SOX) that converts some Mac sound files as well as many other sound file formats. Our MetroTools package includes a Sound Importer module that converts more forms of Mac sound files, including 'snd' resources. It also handles Mac resource forks under NEXTSTEP 3.x, MacBinary files, sample rate detection, etc. - all automatically. It even creates separate sound files for each Mac 'snd' resource it finds in a file. Drag and drop Mac sound files (or folders of files) into the panel and it does the rest. GISO doesn't have these features. For info on MetroTools, you can e-mail info@metrosoft.com. Regards, Gordon -- Gordon Van Huizen vox: 619.488.9411 fax: 619.488.3045 Metrosoft gvh@metrosoft.com [NeXTmail welcome] "Our ship is coming in, it just isn't black." - MTD 2/93
From: kbm8572@summa.tamu.edu (BRYAN MILLIGAN) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Is there a PD version of the DearMom font? Date: 27 Jul 1993 10:44 CDT Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services Distribution: world Message-ID: <27JUL199310443512@summa.tamu.edu> News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41 (gasp) and came across a TrueType font called DearMom. This font looks as if a four-year-old created it; it's hilarious. Is there a NeXT equivalent version available in the public domain (or for a very low price). I want to typeset my dissertation with it. bryan bryan@kolsky.tamu.edu "When pigs are outlawed, only outlaws will have pigs."
From: rck@fangio.asd.sgi.com (Robert Keller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc Subject: Mach on SGI (was: Intel GX Machines for NeXTStep 486) Date: 27 Jul 1993 16:59:14 GMT Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc., Mountain View, CA Distribution: world Message-ID: <233mt2$m9g@fido.asd.sgi.com> References: <CA4oG4.Fur@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> <226p5o$orf@disuns2.epfl.ch> <2294ci$pfe@umd5.umd.edu> <229n46$mcq@disuns2.epfl.ch> matomira@di.epfl.ch (Fernando Mato Mira) writes: : >I would be happy just having a Mach kernel on my SGI, for starters... Why? What features of the mach kernel do you wish to see in Irix? ...robert
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) Subject: Can Partner mount AFP Volumes? Message-ID: <CAu2zq.2I1@utstat.toronto.edu> Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics Distribution: na Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1993 17:23:50 GMT I have been running uShare 1.09 on my 3.0 Cube for some time with great success. It's a very nice product. I have since been trying to go the other way with Partner from the same company (IPT). This program is supposed to allow you to access AFP volumes on a Mac say while at the same time using uShare. I can get Partner to see a LaserWriter (actually an HP-4M), but I can't ge it to mount an AFP volume ( I could do this with NeXT's Appletalk, and still can if I enable it). What happens if that nothing gets places under the /Net directory ( that is it's empty). If I use NeXT's Appletalk I get all kinds of subdirectories of /Net. Partner is supposed to place an AppleShare subdirectory into /Net. It doesn't! Any help appreciated. Thank's,....Philip Please, no NeXT Mail for now. -- Philip McDunnough University of Toronto philip@utstat.toronto.edu [Where sheep may safely graze...]
From: xepo@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Scott R Violet) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Looking for recomendations of fast SCSI CD-ROM drive Date: 27 Jul 1993 17:32:30 GMT Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee Distribution: usa Message-ID: <233oreINNr55@uwm.edu> Originator: xepo@csd4.csd.uwm.edu Hi all, A few people has been commenting that the NeXT CD drive isn't that fast as compared to some of the newer ones, and it isn't made any more. So, could some one recommend a good replacement for it? As well as where it is sold and at what price. Thanks in advance, -- -Scott Violet (xepo@csd4.csd.uwm.edu)
From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Is anyone using a ZyXEL Fax modem on black NeXT?? Message-ID: <69705@mimsy.umd.edu> Date: 27 Jul 93 17:18:29 GMT References: <22ptes$3gk@hub.ucsb.edu> <KARTHY.93Jul25181812@dannug.dannug.dk> <ntomczak.743594464@vega> Sender: news@mimsy.umd.edu Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742 In article <ntomczak.743594464@vega>, ntomczak@vega.math.ualberta.ca (N Tomczak-Jaegermann) writes: > for more often used numbers you may add, for kermit, in your > .kermrc lines like this: > define this dial 5555555 > and just type 'this' ... at a kermit prompt. or even better, make a command script called ~/myfavorite-host containing a kermit style chat script like set input timeout-action quit dial (999) 999-9999 output \13 input 10 login: output myname\13 input 20 password: output mypassword\13 connect and then the kermit command "take ~/myfavorite-host" dials and logs you in then since kermit can be given a command file as input on startup, you can define an alias alias myhost kermit ~/myfavorite-host so you dont even have to enter kermit, just type myhost at the shell prompt this is just the surface, kermit is one really nice comm package P.S. if anyone has figured out how to get kermit to dial a defender, wait for the callback and then login, please let me know. -- Alex Blakemore alex@cs.umd.edu NeXT mail accepted -------------------------------------------------------------- "Without an engaged and motivated human being at the keyboard, the computer is just another dumb box." William Raspberry
From: fitzy@titan.ucs.umass.edu (JOSEPH E FITZGERALD) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NSFIP w/16 bit color, 16 megs Date: 27 Jul 1993 17:59:31 GMT Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst Message-ID: <233qe3$no0@nic.umass.edu> References: <1993Jul27.132446.23789@cs.uno.edu> cajho@uno.edu wrote: :Are there any user of NSFIP out there using 16-bit color with only 16 megs? :16 megs is listed as the minimum, w/24 suggested. I would like to hear how :NSFIP runs as a single-user system, with not TOO much going on at once, w/only :16 megs in 16-bit color. One of my systems has only 16 megs in it and it really isn't too bad. Window movement is rather slow, but I still find it quite usable. Joe Fitzgerald fitzy@titan.ucs.umass.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: coconut@crash.cts.com (Brian Dear) Subject: Re: NSFIP w/16 bit color, 16 megs Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA Date: 27 Jul 93 10:32:02 PDT Message-ID: <1993Jul27.103202.26801@crash> References: <1993Jul27.132446.23789@cs.uno.edu> cajho@uno.edu wrote: : Are there any user of NSFIP out there using 16-bit color with only 16 megs? : 16 megs is listed as the minimum, w/24 suggested. I would like to hear how : NSFIP runs as a single-user system, with not TOO much going on at once, w/only : 16 megs in 16-bit color. : : Thanks is advance for replies, : : Craig : : -- : Craig Johnston | Q: How do you stop Bill Gates from drowning? : cajho@uno.edu | A: Shoot him. Well, we have NS/I running on an Intel GX Professional machine with 16MB RAM. With 16bit color. The disk is busy a lot of the time. But it is usable. When RAM gets cheap, you can bet I'm going to upgrade to 32MB though! -- brian
From: zmonster@athena.mit.edu (Eric M Hermanson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: File Encryption in Workspace.app Date: 27 Jul 1993 18:38:56 GMT Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology Distribution: world Message-ID: <233so0$ek@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> I was browsing through the filesystem in NS3.0, and I came across some interesting NIB files. Specificallly, in /usr/lib/NextStep/Workspace.app/WM.app/English.lproj/EncryptPanel.nib This nib is has a picture of a closed lock with a text field asking user to enter they file encryption "key". I think I heard last year that the government did not allow NeXT to incorporate this encryption because it was too powerful (and if it fell into the wrong hands....) Is this true? If so, it it interesting they still have the resources in the .app folder. Secondly, some other interesting NIB's in Workspace.app deal with the debugging programs that are evidently built in to help debug this monster of an app. Take a look at: /usr/lib/NextStep/Workspace.app/WM.app/WMDebug.nib and /usr/lib/NextStep/Workspace.app/WM.app/FMStats.nib Have fun! Eric
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: wagner@main.mndly.umn.edu (Richard Wagner) Subject: Has anyone installed GOPHER(server) on NS/FIP? Message-ID: <wagner.1490.743799092@main.mndly.umn.edu> Sender: news@news2.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: the Minnesota Daily (U of MN Student Newspaper) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1993 18:51:33 GMT I installed Gopher (server) on a 486 EISA machine. When I connect to the server for the first time everything works dandy. Every time after that though I get a 'Gopher Error. Nothing in root' or something like that. If I go in by hand and delete the .cache file that resides in the gopher-data directory I'm able to connect for a SINGLE session again. This .cache file is always zero length. Anybody have any clues? Rick W.
From: dave@truth.asg.arlut.utexas.edu (Dave Slotnick) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: More bad experiences with NeXTWORLD. Message-ID: <88630@ut-emx.uucp> Date: 27 Jul 93 17:39:14 GMT References: <1993Jul26.202301.9794@newshost.lanl.gov> Sender: news@ut-emx.uucp Distribution: usa My experiences with NeXTWORLD have also been less than memorable. I find the magazine enjoyable, but I like to have my phone calls returned. -- *** David Slotnick *** Applied Research Laboratories *** dave@truth.asg.arlut.utexas.edu NeXTmail desired and appreciated
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: scwg0600@ih-nxt01.cso.uiuc.edu (Steven C Weintz) Subject: Sorry for the delay... Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1993 19:21:16 GMT Message-ID: <CAu8FG.G82@news.cso.uiuc.edu> Sender: usenet@news.cso.uiuc.edu (Net Noise owner) Keywords: NeXT, multimedia, summaries Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Quite some time ago I requested informed opinions about NeXTdimensions in this newsgroup, and comparisons between NeXT, Windows and Mac for multimedia in the real world in comp.multimedia. I got a number of requests for summaries and very few replies. I've been waiting for further comments and doing some research on my own, hence the delay. I will be posting my data and opinions shortly. Someone (I didn't note who) recently pointed out the skewed ratio of requests for info:posted summaries, and noted this as a breach of netiquette. i concur, and apologize for any inconvenience. (Not that my opinions are really worth a damn.) Steve Weintz scwg0600@sumter.cso.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc From: wollman@UVM.EDU (Garrett Wollman) Subject: Re: Mach on SGI (was: Intel GX Machines for NeXTStep 486) Message-ID: <1993Jul27.185600.22050@emba.uvm.edu> Sender: news@emba.uvm.edu Organization: University of Vermont, EMBA Computer Facility References: <CA4oG4.Fur@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> <2294ci$pfe@umd5.umd.edu> <229n46$mcq@disuns2.epfl.ch> <233mt2$m9g@fido.asd.sgi.com> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1993 18:56:00 GMT In article <233mt2$m9g@fido.asd.sgi.com>, Robert Keller <rck@fangio.asd.sgi.com> wrote: >matomira@di.epfl.ch (Fernando Mato Mira) writes: >: >>I would be happy just having a Mach kernel on my SGI, for starters... > >Why? What features of the mach kernel do you wish to see in Irix? > Perhaps he is not interested in ``features of the mach [sic] kernel'', but in running Mach itself... Heretical notion, I know, but there are actually people out there who would like to do this. (And I know it has been done: I've seen it running. But I won't point fingers at the people who did it; if they want the notoriety, they'll have to tell you themselves.) (Similarly, there are people who would love to be able to run Net/2 or (even better) 4.4 on their SGI boxen.) -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | Shashish is simple, it's discreet, it's brief. ... wollman@emba.uvm.edu | Shashish is the bonding of hearts in spite of distance. uvm-gen!wollman | It is a bond more powerful than absence. We like people UVM disagrees. | who like Shashish. - Claude McKenzie + Florent Vollant
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: kalim@netcom.com (Kalim Sawires) Subject: Re: Intel GX questions Message-ID: <kalimCAu7rs.GwM@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) References: <232it7$je@news.u.washington.edu> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1993 19:07:03 GMT David Basiji (basiji@stein.u.washington.edu) wrote: : The on-board sound for the GX will be supported : in 3.2. Strangely, there are no plans (by NeXT) : to support the on-board SCSI last I heard. : Hopefully, Intel will follow through on this : glaring deficiency. : Just to completely screw the situation with what : could be NeXT's best Intel platform, 3.1 doesn't : even work when using DMA for the IDE drive on the : latest machines. When DMA is disabled, the system : works fine, albeit more slowly. : David Basiji : UW Bioengineering Some clarifications of this are in order. The on-board audio will be supported very soon (well before 3.2). As a matter of fact, I have a beta version of the driver already, which is quite stable, and the final release is "Just around the corner". The on-board SCSI is being developed at Intel in unison with Adaptec. It is currently in beta cycle as well. I spoke with the person writing the driver, and he is very confident in it's stability. It will go back to Intel corporate very soon, and the release will follow shortly. A note on that is that the driver will not support booting up from an external SCSI hard disk, but access to CD-ROM's and external hard disks will be available. Finally, DMA IDE will be supported under 3.2. -- Kalim Sawires Wyle Laboratories kalim@netcom.com (310) 804-1460 Disclaimer: The standard stuff about my employer not being responsible for my verbosity (is that a word?)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: al@rbc.uucp (Al Davis) Subject: Re: Nova needs more disk space Message-ID: <1993Jul27.112726.2940@rbc.uucp> Sender: al@rbc.uucp (Al Davis) Organization: Huh? References: <1993Jul25.182309.27800@chiton.ucsd.edu> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1993 11:27:26 GMT Here's a suggestion for a fund raiser: Sell a CD-rom set with Nova's contents. Some of us don't have ftp access or have it only very inconveniently, like through a 2400 baud modem. I will gladly pay $100 for this.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: pjoey@charon.muc.de (Peter Eybert) Subject: Re: More bad experiences with NeXTWORLD. Message-ID: <1993Jul27.200732.898@charon.muc.de> Sender: pjoey@charon.muc.de Organization: Peter Eybert References: <1993Jul26.152415.17109@linus.mitre.org> Distribution: usa Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1993 20:07:32 GMT From the "free year" I got two issues, then there was nothing. You in the US are lucky because you can go down to the shop and get it. Well I could either but imagine you should pay $20 for about 80 pages and late information. That's how it is here in Germany, because one has to pay DM 21.95 for one issue. I've stopped buying NeXTWORLD when I got access to the net. Information is faster. -- ____________________________________________________________ Peter Eybert pjoe@charon.muc.de Appenzellerstr. 123 Tel: +49-89-7593734 81475 Muenchen (wanted: NeXTMail) --
From: garyc@eecs.nwu.edu (Gary Chang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Color enhancement on NeXT monitor using Calibrator.app Date: 27 Jul 1993 20:13:33 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL USA Message-ID: <23429d$50e@news.acns.nwu.edu> References: <23284j$frv@news.acns.nwu.edu> In article <23284j$frv@news.acns.nwu.edu> garyc@eecs.nwu.edu (Gary Chang) writes: &- Hi, &- &- To me, the Calibrator.app works more than just matching the &- screen colors to the printer. With little adjustment on the Gamma, &- Bright, Contrast and RGB values, I get a much better look on my NeXT &- Color monitor. It is a lot sharper and no longer looks washed-out. &- Due to a lot of requests, I am reposting the following info. (I guess quite a few of you are not completely satisfied with your Fimi Color Monitor.:-) The app is located on cs.orst.edu under /pub/next/binaries/graphics/Calibrator.app.compressed. The values on my settings are: Gamma - 1.768 Bright - 85 Contrast - 0 Red: -4 Green: -6 Blue: 1 White Point: Max (255?) for all RGB Black Point: Min(0?) for all RGB Good luck. Gary -- +----------------+ | Gary I. Chang | +----------------+ Northwestern Univ. E-Mail: garyc@eecs.nwu.edu (NeXT-Mail O.K.)
From: jgshir@athena.mit.edu (John G Shirlaw) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: File Encryption in Workspace.app Date: 27 Jul 1993 20:39:53 GMT Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology Distribution: world Message-ID: <2343qp$2ls@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> References: <233so0$ek@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> In article <233so0$ek@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>, zmonster@athena.mit.edu (Eric M Hermanson) writes: |> I was browsing through the filesystem in NS3.0, and I came across some |> interesting NIB files. Specificallly, in |> |> /usr/lib/NextStep/Workspace.app/WM.app/English.lproj/EncryptPanel.nib |> |> This nib is has a picture of a closed lock with a text field asking user to |> enter they file encryption "key". I think I heard last year that the |> government did not allow NeXT to incorporate this encryption because it |> was too powerful (and if it fell into the wrong hands....) Is this true? |> If so, it it interesting they still have the resources in the .app folder. |> |> Secondly, some other interesting NIB's in Workspace.app deal with the debugging |> programs that are evidently built in to help debug this monster of an app. |> Take a look at: |> |> /usr/lib/NextStep/Workspace.app/WM.app/WMDebug.nib |> |> and |> |> /usr/lib/NextStep/Workspace.app/WM.app/FMStats.nib |> |> |> Have fun! |> |> Eric Unix comes with an encription and decription program, and this may be just a front end to this suit of tools. From what I understand the encription method is fairly simple and can be broken reasonably easy if someone knows what they are doing. Just my thoughts. john.
From: ernest@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu (Ernest Prabhakar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Will other (non-HP) PA-RISC systems run NEXTSTEP-PA? Date: 27 Jul 1993 20:57:35 GMT Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena Distribution: world Message-ID: <2344s0INNr09@gap.caltech.edu> I noticed in clari.nb.trends how Hitachi was ramping up its PA-RISC systems. Does anyone know the relative size of the non-HP PA-RISC marketplace? Also, is there good standardization of bus and driver specifications? In other words, given that the NEXTSTEP for Precision RISC architectures (NS/FPR? NS/FPAP?) port is already underway: - will it automatically run on non-HP systems? - would it be hard to port to them? - is the market even big enough to worry about? It probably doesn't matter a lot one way or the other, but the more manufacturers NeXT is associated with, the happier I get. :-) -enp -- Ernest N. Prabhakar Caltech High Energy Physics Member, League for Programming Freedom (league@prep.ai.mit.edu) CaJUN President NeXTMail:ernest@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu "...and ourselves, your servants for Jesus sake." - II Cor 4:5b #import <std/disclaimer.h>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: borrel@ludvigsen.dhhalden.no (Borre Ludvigsen) Subject: Re: Mac sound files Message-ID: <1993Jul27.212944.23789@dhhalden.no> Sender: news@dhhalden.no (Network News User) Organization: Ostfold College References: <230lu8$kss@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1993 21:29:44 GMT Matthew B Smith writes > Are there any applications floating about that I may use to convert Mac > sound files into those compatable with the NeXT platform? > > Thanks in advance. > > M. Bradley Smith > mbsmith@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Yes - "mactosnd" and "mac2snd" both PD. - Barre Ludvigsen
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware From: mzeller@gwdu03.gwdg.de (Meinrad Zeller) Subject: Re: Is anyone using a ZyXEL Fax modem on black NeXT?? Message-ID: <5TRFB6QT@gwdu03.gwdg.de> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: GWDG, Goettingen References: <22ptes$3gk@hub.ucsb.edu> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1993 22:15:05 GMT Douglas Scott (doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu) wrote: : Could someone who has successfully used a ZyXEL high-speed modem on a NeXT : please contact me? The literature claims it will work, but I am unable to: Get a copy of NXFaxDemo from your fauvorite ftp-server. Then things will (should) work. With the NeXT fax daemon I think you cant do simultaneously fax and modem (dial in) services with the Zyxel - actually I don't know any modem which would do that. With the NXFax software you can do this very smoothly. In the demo mode of NXFax you can simultaneously send one page faxes #and# enable dialin - and of course dial out. I work w/ NXFax for quite some time and it runs very nice. Meinrad -- Meinrad Zeller Foehrenweg 1 D-37077 Goettingen Tel.: +49-551-300095
From: ridgway@inls3.tmc.edu (Doug Ridgway) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: .au to .snd Date: 27 Jul 1993 22:46:21 GMT Organization: Institute for NonLinear Science, UCSD Message-ID: <234b7tINNr1u@network.ucsd.edu> References: <CAszux.9pB@news.iastate.edu> In article <CAszux.9pB@news.iastate.edu> sela@iastate.edu (Brian J Morrison) writes: >Hello all, > >I was just wondering if some kind soul out there could email me on how >to go about converting from .au to .snd (some program available somewhere >or something). You help would be very much apreciated. Thanx in advance. > >Brian >sela@iastate.edu Be warned that I know nothing about sound files, but recently, when I got a .au file, I double-clicked on it and it brought up Edit. I wanted to play it, so I renamed it to .snd, doubled-clicked and it played just fine. I still know nothing about sound formats. Ignorance is a virtue, doug.
Control: cancel <wagner.1490.743799092@main.mndly.umn.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: wagner@main.mndly.umn.edu (Richard Wagner) Subject: Has anyone installed GOPHER(server) on NS/FIP? Message-ID: <wagner.1492.743814870@main.mndly.umn.edu> Sender: news@news2.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1993 23:14:30 GMT
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: coconut@crash.cts.com (Brian Dear) Subject: Re: Intel GX questions Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA Date: 27 Jul 93 17:08:44 PDT Message-ID: <1993Jul27.170844.17826@crash> References: <kalimCAu7rs.GwM@netcom.com> Kalim Sawires (kalim@netcom.com) wrote: : [...] : : Some clarifications of this are in order. The on-board : audio will be supported very soon (well before 3.2). : [...] : : The on-board SCSI is being developed at Intel in unison : with Adaptec. It is currently in beta cycle as well. : : [...] : Kalim Sawires Wyle Laboratories : kalim@netcom.com (310) 804-1460 : Disclaimer: The standard stuff about my employer not being : responsible for my verbosity (is that a word?) Wow, wow, and more wow! I am pleased to hear all this. This will make working with the Intel GX even more of a joy. However, the thing that would really "top it off" is support for true NeXT resolution (not just 1024x768). I have the GX only 4 feet from a MegaPixel connected to a Cube, and the difference in resolution is very noticable when working with graphics illustration programs where you wind up with lots of windows and inspectors and toolboxes on the screen, all crowding for space. Ideally I would like to see 1280x1024 resolution. Any chance?
From: h0l847a@tamsun.tamu.edu (Hoseong La) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXT shell window and VMS Edit problem Date: 27 Jul 1993 19:34:45 -0500 Organization: tamu Distribution: world Message-ID: <234hj5$ha8@tamsun.tamu.edu> Keywords: VMS, Edit, modem, Hi! I have some problem with the Edit in VMS over the modem connection from the NeXTstation. Somehow from the shell window in NeXT the carriage return inside the Edit in VMS behaves crazy. It does not move the curser to the beginning of the next line, but puts at some other weirdest place you can imagine. It just messes up the display, but after I do "ctrl-z" and "c" at the * prompt, I can see in fact things are at the right place. It is fairly annoying that I have to keep doing this to have the normal display. It does not happen with the TPU editor, but it happens with EDIT editor. Of course, no problem with using emacs on any UNIX machines under the same connection. Does anyone have any idea what is wrong and how I can fix it without ruining the other nicely working editors? Thanks in advance. hs
From: vasu@beancounter.commerce.ubc.ca (Vasu Krishnamurthy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Turning off the printer Date: 27 Jul 1993 19:08:11 GMT Organization: The University of British Columbia Distribution: world Message-ID: <233uerINNil3@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca> I like to turn the printer off every time I log out. Under NS 3.0, I did this automatically by writing the following in my defaults database: dwrite loginwindow LogoutHook <path/myfile> where <myfile> is a script to turn off the printer. This does not work under 3.1. Any suggestions about how else one could do the same thing? Please respond via email, as I don't read this bboard very often. Thanks in advance. -- Vasu Krishnamurthy Faculty of Commerce and Business Administration University of British Columbia Vancouver, BC V6T 1Z2 CANADA vasu@beancounter.commerce.ubc.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: tagreen@lothario.cica.indiana.edu (Todd A Green) Subject: ZyXEL and 19.2 ZyX protocol (was Re: Is anyone using a ZyXEL Fax modem on black NeXT??) Message-ID: <CAuotK.6xr@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> Sender: news@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu (USENET News System) Organization: CICA - Center for Innovative Computer Applications References: <22ptes$3gk@hub.ucsb.edu> <KARTHY.93Jul25181812@dannug.dannug.dk> <ntomczak.743594464@vega> <69705@mimsy.umd.edu> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1993 01:15:19 GMT I've successfully made a connection between two NeXTs (black) with two ZyXEL 1496E+'s with a V.32bis (14.4) connection (via kermit on cufb/ttydfb), but I just get garbage when I try to use either the 16.8 or 19.2 proprietary speeds of the E+'s. Has anyone made a successful connection using the ZyX protocol? Thanks, Todd
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.text.tex From: mjh@kronecker.mit.edu (Michael J. Hopkins) Subject: Metafont problem Message-ID: <1993Jul28.011106.16850@galois.mit.edu> Sender: news@galois.mit.edu Organization: MIT Department of Mathematics Date: Wed, 28 Jul 93 01:11:06 GMT Well, this is probably a pretty obscure question, but here goes. I have been trying to install the fonts lams1 - lams5 (part of the Lamstex distribution) for use with Burchard's diagram.sty package. The problem is I can't get metafont to compile the .mf files. I am using a NeXTstation mono slab with system 3.0 (yeah, one of these days I'll find the time to do the upgrade) and METAFONT version 2.71. A friend got this to compile with METAFONT version 2.7. Is there some change between versions that would make this file not compile? Below is the output from my attempt to make the .tfm and .pk files. Thanks in advance Mike Hopkins mjh@math.mit.edu ------------- beetlejuice (diagram-3) <8:20am> [122]: MakeTeXPK lams2 300 100 magstep\(1.0\) mf \mode:=nextscreen; mag:=magstep(1.0); scrollmode; input lams2 \</dev/null This is METAFONT, C Version 2.71 (/usr/lib/mf/inputs/lams2.mf (/usr/lib/mf/inputs/cmbase.mf) [0] [13] [26]2[39] [52][65] [7]8] [91] [104] [1] [14] [27] [40] [53] [66] [79] [92] [105] [2] [15] [28] [41] [54] [67] [80] [93] [106] [3] [16] [29] [42] [55] [68] [81] [94] [107] [4] [17] [30] [43] [56] [69] [82] [95] [108] [5] [18] [31] [44] [57] [70] [83] [96] [109] [6] [19] [32] [45] [58] [71] [84] [97] [110] [7] [20] [33] [46] [59] [72] [85] [98] [111] [8] [21] [34] [47] [60] [73] [86] [99] [112] [9] [22] [35] [48] [61] [74] [87] [100] [113] [10] [23] [36] [49] [62] [75] [88] [101] [114] [11] [24] [37] [50] [63] [76] [89] [102] [115] [12] [25] [38] [51] [64] [77] [90] [103] [116] >> -1 ! Division by zero. <to be read again> ) adjust_fit->...it;do_expansion(w/(charwd_in*hppp)) ; l.513 adjust_fit(0,0) ; pickup crisp.nib; [117] >> -1 ! Division by zero. <to be read again> ) adjust_fit->...it;do_expansion(w/(charwd_in*hppp)) ; l.528 adjust_fit(0,0) ; pickup crisp.nib; [118] >> -1 ! Division by zero. <to be read again> ) adjust_fit->...it;do_expansion(w/(charwd_in*hppp)) ; l.543 adjust_fit(0,0) ; pickup crisp.nib; [119] >> -1 ! Division by zero. <to be read again> ) adjust_fit->...it;do_expansion(w/(charwd_in*hppp)) ; l.559 adjust_fit(0,0) ; pickup crisp.nib; [120] [121] [122] ) (see the transcript file for additional information) Font metrics written on lams2.tfm. Output written on lams2.120gf (123 characters, 4172 bytes). Transcript written on lams2.log. Metafont failed for some reason on lams2.300gf -- ----------------------------------- Mike Hopkins mjh@math.mit.edu -----------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: yf5990@u.cc.utah.edu (Yan Fang) Subject: Re: summary : vendors of NS/i systems Message-ID: <1993Jul28.023251.1572@fcom.cc.utah.edu> Sender: news@fcom.cc.utah.edu Organization: University of Utah Computer Center Student Mail Machine References: <1993Jul24.115640.1094@crash> <1993Jul26.182031.1773@proforma.com> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 93 02:32:51 GMT In the haste to rush Brian his Professional GX (After frantic effort and prodigious sweating I made FedEx by five minutes) I forgot to carefully place his manuals in the box. Those manuals have been placed in the care of my trustworthy secretary, who will forward them to Brian with due haste. I explained this to Brian, who had already graciously retracted his negative statements about my service. About the charge that resellers should have multiple NS/I specialists: I agree. However, I'm lucky to be working with NS/I at all. After the hardware crash the company president officially reassigned me to market Sun workstations to the local engineering community. It's only through sheer disobedience and help from NeXT's kind Rocky Mountain sales staff that I am privileged enough to call myself a NS/I specialist. Kris Magnusson NS/I Specialist Alpine Computing MicroAge In article <1993Jul26.182031.1773@proforma.com> jgg@proforma.com (J. G. Gregory) writes: >In article <1993Jul24.115640.1094@crash> coconut@crash.cts.com (Brian >Dear) writes: >> >>Followup to my flame on Alpine Computing. Mr. Magnusson called our >office >>today, Saturday, from his home, and helped answer my questions and >resolve >>my problems. I want the Net to know I am a satisfied customer of >Alpine >>and now have the Intel GX machine working. Mr. Magnusson has gone >out >>of his way to help and we appreciate that. >> >> >>-- brian dear >> coconut computing, inc. >> la jolla, ca > >Just a darn minute. You made several complaints, not all of which >could have been addressed by Mr. Magnusson from his home. Where was >the hardware documentation? I don't doubt that Alpine might be one >of the better vendors, but you were flinging complaints before. > >--J Gregory -- Yan Fang-Magnusson <yf5990@u.cc.utah.edu> --------------------------------------------------------------------- Doctoral candidate, Department of Philosophy, University of Utah
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: man -> rtf? Message-ID: <1993Jul27.225727.2359@yvax.byu.edu> From: john@kolob.byu.edu (John Peterson) Date: 27 Jul 93 22:57:26 -0700 I would like to be able to type a command from the command line that would bring up the man page I desire without going through Librarian. I thought If I could do a nroff -man | (an nroff to rtf translator) | Edit. (I know Edit won't take this...but you get the idea.) I guess I could write a simple translator myself, but Librarian seems to do it. (..unless those are PostScript files it creates.) Any ideas? P.S. I don't really want to open it in Preview (I hate paging...). -- John Peterson -- Networked Computer Support -- Brigham Young University Internet: John_Peterson@byu.edu Phone: (801) 378-5007
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: rm@califhistsoc.org (Robert MacKimmie) Subject: Printers-HP LaserJet 4 and HP 4M Message-ID: <CAsrM8.2xr@califhistsoc.org> Keywords: HP printers Sender: rm@califhistsoc.org (one) Organization: California Historical Society - Bringing the 19th Century, kicking and screaming, into the 21st! 415 567-1848 or fax 415 567-2394. Distribution: comp.sys.next.misc Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1993 00:20:31 GMT I know this has been a well manicured subject at times---but I missed the conversation and need some information. Does the HP LaserJet 4 work with NeXTSTEP or the Black Hardware. My development department needs to crank out lots-o-envelopes and that is one of their solutions. Being mindful of bringing the whole institution online with NeXTSTEP eventually, does this hardware work and can I network the printer so that I have a 600DPI printer on the net??? Any information about configurations, drivers, needed cables for both Black and White hardware would be appreciated. All replies to: RM@CALIFHISTSOC.ORG and thanks....
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: hv@uwasa.fi (Harri Valkama) Subject: Re: Nova needs more disk space Message-ID: <1993Jul28.054206.20962@uwasa.fi> Organization: University of Vaasa, Finland References: <1993Jul25.182309.27800@chiton.ucsd.edu> <1993Jul27.112726.2940@rbc.uucp> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1993 05:42:06 GMT In article <1993Jul27.112726.2940@rbc.uucp> davis@ee.rochester.edu writes: >Here's a suggestion for a fund raiser: > >Sell a CD-rom set with Nova's contents. Walnut Creek CDROM has already made such at November 1992 (I am not quite sure about the month) and I have those discs to sell, too. I hope they make an update soon. >Some of us don't have ftp access or have it only very inconveniently, like >through a 2400 baud modem. > >I will gladly pay $100 for this. The price was USD40, if I remember. -harri- -- ///// Harri Valkama, hv@uwasa.fi (also NeXTmail welcome) ///// University of Vaasa, P.O.Box 700, 65101 VAASA, Finland ///// Telephone: +358 61 324 8364 fax: +358 61 324 8465 ///// Anonymous ftp site moderator at garbo.uwasa.fi (128.214.87.1)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc From: kent@infoserv.com Subject: ND Software Message-ID: <CAupxM.5yE@infoserv.com> Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard) Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting Distribution: na Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1993 01:39:21 GMT I asked a very general question about ND software last week. I should have asked a more specific question. Is there any software to capture video clips and send them out the digital output on the board? Is the ND capable of mixing video from 2 of the inputs and sending it out the output? Is the ND capable of overlaying an image on the computer onto live video as is passes from the ND input to the output. last thing I got my ND from someone who had it sitting on a shelf with no Docs. If anyone has the docs or any technical info on the ND it would be nice if you can send it. NeXTmail is fine. I'll post all email responses to the net. Thanks, Kent -- /* K.L. Shephard Consulting is my company. Infoserv only delivers my mail. */ /* Please direct mail to kent@infoserv.com other adresses may not work. */
From: jhj@daimi.aau.dk (Jens H|rup Jensen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: "mix" from i*link ? Date: 28 Jul 1993 07:19:09 GMT Organization: DAIMI, Computer Science Dept. at Aarhus University Message-ID: <23599d$qbb@belfort.daimi.aau.dk> Summary: What is "mix" ? Keywords: mix ilink i*link modem voice responce I once read about "mix" from i*link, Germany. It should be a 2400 baud modem, a group III fax and have capabilities of voice responce. Where can I buy it, what is the price and is it compatible with the phonekit? -- Jens Hoerup Denmark
From: matomira@di.epfl.ch (Fernando Mato Mira) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc Subject: Re: Mach on SGI (was: Intel GX Machines for NeXTStep 486) Date: 28 Jul 1993 09:36:18 GMT Organization: Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne Distribution: world Message-ID: <235hai$d90@disuns2.epfl.ch> References: <CA4oG4.Fur@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> <2294ci$pfe@umd5.umd.edu> <229n46$mcq@disuns2.epfl.ch> <233mt2$m9g@fido.asd.sgi.com> <1993Jul27.185600.22050@emba.uvm.edu> In article <1993Jul27.185600.22050@emba.uvm.edu>, wollman@UVM.EDU (Garrett Wollman) writes: > In article <233mt2$m9g@fido.asd.sgi.com>, > Robert Keller <rck@fangio.asd.sgi.com> wrote: > >matomira@di.epfl.ch (Fernando Mato Mira) writes: > >: > >>I would be happy just having a Mach kernel on my SGI, for starters... > > > >Why? What features of the mach kernel do you wish to see in Irix? > > > > Perhaps he is not interested in ``features of the mach [sic] kernel'', > but in running Mach itself... Heretical notion, I know, but there are Besides ports and highly efficient multitasking (which maybe you can accomplish through sproc, but I have no benchmarks), the feature I would like to see most would be its cleanness. Once I thought that it would become the next step in the evolution of Unix, but I guess that doesn't look that well now... By running Mach itself, and not just adding its features, you are also more "standard" (at least at CMU :-) ). -- Fernando D. Mato Mira Computer Graphics Lab "There is only one Language Swiss Federal Institute of Technology and McCarthy is its prophet" matomira@di.epfl.ch FAX : +41 (21) 693 - 5328 Disclaimer: disclaim([],[]). disclaim([H|T],[DH,DT]) :- fixed_point_disclaimer(H,DH), disclaim(T,DT). fixed_point_disclaimer(Text,fixed_point_disclaimer(Text,_)).
From: matomira@di.epfl.ch (Fernando Mato Mira) Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: SGI industrial design (was: Sinix on Indigo???) Date: 28 Jul 1993 10:12:11 GMT Organization: Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne Distribution: world Message-ID: <235jdr$ei7@disuns2.epfl.ch> References: <1993Jul26.200121.26521@serveme.chi.il.us> <jdp710c@zuni.esd.sgi.com> <232t84$ths@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> In article <232t84$ths@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>, andreas@awstar.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Andreas Wierse) writes: > > The only difference seems to > be that the Indigo is no longer Indigo-coloured but comes in a fantastic > ergonomical eye-flashing dark-grey case :-). German bureaucrates don't like > unorthodox colours in german offices :-(. > Well, I would probably agree with them in the case of the Indigo II, that green is *really* eye-flashing... And I do not want to even think about a granite-textured keyboard for the Indy. I am no professional typist and I have to look at the keys... Now for the constructive critic, it happened here that the monitor of our beloved (sorry) NeXT cube went dead, so I changed the black monitor for a Sony (16in. also) that came with an 8-bit Indigo that we have lying around. Of course the Sony is much better that the Megapixel, but when I turned on the thing, I had the same feeling that when I saw NeXTStep on a 486 machine: It just looks awful! (of course if you were running windows before, it is great) NeXTstep NEEDS that black monitor (at least the front face). The black one, disappears in the background, the white one is always there emprisoning you! Now, I wouldn't say this is that critical for 19in and up displays, because in that case, the sides of the box start to be in the periphery of your FOV (when your attention is on the screen). So how about monitors with a black front face? They could be quite cool, do not look so dirty as the black ones when you do not clean them, and they are boring enough for a non-yuppie-style office. For the keyboard, DO NOT make them black (that's the only black thing on the NeXT that was wrong). Remember, be it for scientific visualization, publishing or movies, a correct perception of color is of utmost importance to the people using SGI machines, so please keep those textures out of the front! -- Fernando D. Mato Mira Computer Graphics Lab "There is only one Language Swiss Federal Institute of Technology and McCarthy is its prophet" matomira@di.epfl.ch FAX : +41 (21) 693 - 5328 Disclaimer: disclaim([],[]). disclaim([H|T],[DH,DT]) :- fixed_point_disclaimer(H,DH), disclaim(T,DT). fixed_point_disclaimer(Text,fixed_point_disclaimer(Text,_)).
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: lam@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Ken Lam) Subject: Is there going to be SMP support for NS? Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1993 12:04:43 GMT Message-ID: <CAvIvv.CxA@news.cso.uiuc.edu> Sender: usenet@news.cso.uiuc.edu (Net Noise owner) Keywords: SMP, nextstep Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana I was wondering if NeXT was going to introduce SMP support for NS. I don't really care what platform (ie. I want to be able to drive the GUI and some applications while I have some serious backgroup processes running[imaging]). I don't really care if it's INTEL/ALPHA/MIPS or whatever based...but when is SMP coming to NS!? Thanks..Ken -- --- Ken Lam Network Administrator @ University of Charleston / Dept of Biology & Geology S.C. Space Grant Consortium (803)-792-4969 / FAX (803)-792-5446
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin) Subject: Re: Intel GX questions Message-ID: <bchin.743862170@news.andi.org> Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International References: <kalimCAu7rs.GwM@netcom.com> <1993Jul27.170844.17826@crash> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1993 12:22:50 GMT coconut@crash.cts.com (Brian Dear) writes: >Kalim Sawires (kalim@netcom.com) wrote: >: The on-board SCSI is being developed at Intel in unison >: with Adaptec. It is currently in beta cycle as well. >: Please note that the on-board SCSI is only about the level of an Adaptec 1522 - It's performance is slower than the 154x series, and it's much slower than the DPT EISA board. For hanging your SCSI CD-ROM or tape drive, it'll be an inexpensive solution though. >However, the thing that would really "top it off" is support for true >NeXT resolution (not just 1024x768). I have the GX only 4 feet from >a MegaPixel connected to a Cube, and the difference in resolution is >very noticable when working with graphics illustration programs where >you wind up with lots of windows and inspectors and toolboxes on the >screen, all crowding for space. Ideally I would like to see 1280x1024 >resolution. Any chance? With only 2mb of video memory, 1280x1024 is only possible at 8bit gray (which, I might add, could be very nice anyways). The Mach32 chip is supposed to be able to take 4mb of video memory (according to Byte), but there doesn't seem to be any implementations that allow for it. It would be nice to get NeXT native resolution, though. -- Bill Chin, NeXTSTEP Developer, PRC Inc. VP Communications, Washington Area NeXT Users Group Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International Technical Staff bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org - NeXTmail welcomed
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: kbacon@austin.onu.edu (C0d3 M0n$t3r) Subject: Re: Getting rid of NEXTSTEP boot block Sender: usenet@austin.onu.edu (Network News owner) Message-ID: <1993Jul28.131844.146135@austin.onu.edu> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1993 13:18:44 GMT References: <1993Jul27.053419.8746@uwasa.fi> Organization: Ohio Northern University Harri Valkama (hv@uwasa.fi) wrote: : In article <CAsHHF.8I3@ryn.mro4.dec.com> conway@bnk014.enet.dec.com (Mark Conway) writes: : >We tried installing NEXTSTEP on a DECstation 425c PC (just : >to try it), and it failed. So we reinstalled DOS, but when : >we boot, the screen continuously prints the message : > : > NeXT boot1 v1.17 : > : >and does not boot. How do we fix this? : I hope there is an easier solution than this: I have fixed many a failing to boot machine with the following undocument fdisk switch... fdisk /mbr I believe it rewrites the boot sector or something as such...It's never hurt my disk, but use at your own risk...:-) : I got rid of that when low-level formatting the hard disk. Yes, I : know that they say you can't low-level format an AT/IDE disk. But you : can, with proper tools (like v5.x Disk Manager) : >Thanks - Mark : > : >P.S. Believe me, we would have been a lot happier if : > the NEXTSTEP installation just worked. : > : >P.P.S. We have already tried "format /s" commands with no : > luck. : -harri- : -- : ///// Harri Valkama, hv@uwasa.fi (also NeXTmail welcome) : ///// University of Vaasa, P.O.Box 700, 65101 VAASA, Finland : ///// Telephone: +358 61 324 8364 fax: +358 61 324 8465 : ///// Anonymous ftp site moderator at garbo.uwasa.fi (128.214.87.1)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: jgg@proforma.com (J. G. Gregory) Subject: Windows NT Released Message-ID: <1993Jul28.124748.233@proforma.com> Sender: jgg@proforma.com Organization: LoftTech Incorporated Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1993 12:47:48 GMT According to today's Wall Street Journal, MicroSoft released Windows NT to manufacturing yesterday. They said that meant it would be available in about 3 weeks. --J Gregory
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: ab@nova.cc.purdue.edu (Allen B) Subject: Re: Nova needs more disk space Message-ID: <CAvrGy.5ow@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> Sender: news@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (USENET News) Organization: Purdue University References: <1993Jul23.232208.1434@nimno.wpa.com> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1993 15:10:09 GMT In article <1993Jul23.232208.1434@nimno.wpa.com> john@wpa.com (John Bartley) writes: > If 50 people contributed $20 apiece that would buy a used 1 GB drive. I > personally get at least that much benefit from nova (or at least I used to > before it stopped working) since I'm not on the net and can't access it > via ftp. Hopefully 49 other NeXT users get similar benefits. > > How about it? Hi, Allen B here. I'll double-check procedure here, but when it came up before, there didn't seem to be a problem on this end. I've been working on a program that allows searching of sonata (via a copy of an enhanced index on your end) and a front end to the mail server (it should be cool when I have a little more time to finish it) and also contains a lot of the README and all the Index information at the site. I was going to add a donation page to the Help for just this purpose. I'll try to determine a politically correct mechanism for getting this done and post instructions here as soon as I can. It might be a while because I'm still running around doing 3.1 upgrades and software installation for the new semester, but I'll try to get back to you soon. I wasn't crazy about the "Nova" disk, mostly because it resembled my site more in name than content. Of course the site is too big to fit on a CD, or our 660MB drive wouldn't be (beyond) full. :-) Now that gzip is shipped with 3.1, we are considering using it as the default compression scheme. We will >not< use a version of gzip that isn't shipped as part of a NeXT software release to ensure compatibility with the widest audience. The "widest audience" goal is much more important than tighter compression, which is why we're still using the ubiquitous UNIX compress, tar, and gnutar (when necessary). Allen B (Email on these subjects to archive-management, please)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: dannie@coplex.coplex.com (Dannie Gregoire) Subject: NextStep's MACH - How good is it? Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1993 15:39:19 GMT Message-ID: <1993Jul28.153919.24606@coplex.coplex.com> Keywords: nextstep mach Organization: Copper UNIX/USENET Services Hi, I have a couple of questions concerning NextStep.... I have read a great deal about NextStep's GUI and developer environments. However, I have not heard much about the operating system underneath it all....MACH. 1) How close is MACH to other flavor's of unix? 2) Does NextStep support multi-port serial cards on the pc? 3) Is it possible to run NextStep's mach without booting into the GUI? Our company is considering using NextStep as a development platform for in-house applications. However, we do not have the resources to replace all of our existing text based terminals with PC's (capable of running NextStep) all at once. We would like to be able to develop both GUI and text based applications under NextStep, using PC's (running NextStep) as department level unix boxes. This would allow us to make the transition from a centralized/text based environment to a distributed GUI environment, using a single operating system. However, all of this depends very heavily upon how robust NextStep's unix is. Any help in this area is greatly appreciated. Dannie J. Gregoire dannie@coplex.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: Neil Greene <neil@kynug.org> Subject: Re: webster weirdness! Message-ID: <1993Jul28.151347.22292@kynug.org> Sender: neil@kynug.org (Neil Greene) Organization: Kentucky NEXTSTEP User Group, Inc. References: <1993Jul20.124730.28995@cyantic.com> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1993 15:13:47 GMT In article <1993Jul20.124730.28995@cyantic.com> mark@cyantic.com (Mark T. Dornfeld) writes: > In article <1993Jul19.184106.16996@liberty.uc.wlu.edu> tmurdoch@liberty.uc.wlu.edu (Tim Murdoch) writes: > > > >What do YOU get when you search on "neil" in Webster in NS3.0? > > The answer is: > > newyorkcofenvironmentalsciencea > > Honest :-) I found that as very odd! -- Neil Greene President, benchMark Developments, Inc. [NeXT VAR] President, Kentucky NeXT User Group, Inc. North American, TIFFany Distributor
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: wsmith@wixer.bga.com (Wesley C. Smith) Subject: Re: ZyXEL and 19.2 ZyX protocol (was Re: Is anyone using a ZyXEL Fax modem on black NeXT??) Message-ID: <1993Jul28.144756.10842@wixer.bga.com> Summary: ZyXEL 19.2 works for me! Organization: Real/Time Communications References: <ntomczak.743594464@vega> <69705@mimsy.umd.edu> <CAuotK.6xr@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1993 14:47:56 GMT tagreen@lothario.cica.indiana.edu wrote: >ZyXEL 1496E+'s with a V.32bis (14.4) connection (via kermit on >cufb/ttydfb), but I just get garbage when I try to use either the 16.8 >or 19.2 proprietary speeds of the E+'s. Has anyone made a successful >connection using the ZyX protocol? I have not had any problems with the ZyXEL protocols. I have used them between Black and White NEXTSTEP machines and to a local bbs(non-NeXT). Wes Smith wes@arissoft.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: hb@raven.ix.de (Henning Behme) Subject: Summary: Newsgrazer 72.2 won't load Message-ID: <1993Jul28.143451.12024@ix.de> Sender: news@ix.de Organization: Verlag Heinz Heise GmbH & Co KG Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1993 14:34:51 GMT Hi, following my posting in this group I have received several answers of which the following turned out to be the solution to the problem. At least I haven't encountered the same problem any more... Actually, ti was enough to switch off the Sort Activation button. > Hi, > > it hasn't happened from the beginning, but recently, whenever I start to > read news.answers (looking for FAQs, that is), NewsGrazer starts to read > (in) what is available, but after a while - not having completed the task, > apparently - vanishes from the screen. > > Has anyone experienced the same and/or got an idea about possible reasons? Garance A Drosehn <gad@black-ice.its.rpi.edu> wrote: This is usually due to the newsgroup having some article with bad headers (or no header lines at all). Depending on the problem in the article, NewsGrazer will hang indefinitely when trying to get the articles information, or it will quit immediately when hitting the article. In my experience, if NewsGrazer quits it's because the user is trying to sort the articles in the newsgroup, and there is an article in the newsgroup which has no subject line in it's header. In your preferences, do you have "Sort Articles" turned on? If so, turn it off and then select the news.answer newsgroup. You should then see all the articles in the newsgroup (except that they won't be sorted). You should also see at least one article which has no subject, or which looks wrong for some other reason. Select any articles you see which are like that (just so NewsGrazer marks them as read), and quit NewsGrazer. You should then be able to restart NewsGrazer, and turn the "Sort Articles" option back on. As long as you've read the problem article, NewsGrazer won't display it so it won't have to sort it. Thanks. Henning Behme iX Multiuser Multitasking Magazin * Verlag Heinz Heise Helstorfer Strasse 7 * 30625 Hannover * Germany hb@ix.de * +49 511 5352374 * +49 511 5352361 (Fax) ------- Religion decays, the icon remains. (Julian Barnes) -------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: thf@zelator.in-berlin.de (Thomas Funke) Subject: Re: You and your Swapfile Message-ID: <1993Jul27.104647.967@gamelan> Sender: thomas@gamelan (thomas) Organization: Disorganization References: <22sd47$1vm@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1993 10:46:47 GMT In article <22sd47$1vm@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> marcel@cs.tu-berlin.de (Marcel Weiher) writes: > > Yet another thing that's been improved in 3.1. My swapfiles aren't > growing out of bounds anymore. > > (Actually, it seems as if all they did was to turn on the swaptimizer > all the time, but it works...). The really important question is: Can swapfile shrink ? Thus if you swap (do some really big in Mathematica) and finish the App, the swapfile should have gone back to its former size (lowat). I guess that NeXT did some improvements in the Windowserver/WM, so it needs less memory than before. That wouldn't solve clearly the problems we have with swapfiles until now. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Thomas Funke ** Unix-Consultant ** thf@zelator.in-berlin.de Brook's Law: Adding manpower to a late software project makes it later ------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware From: raf@shell.portal.com (Man Wei Tam) Subject: Re: Question concerning CD-ROM and audio Message-ID: <CAw12u.Kq3@unix.portal.com> Sender: news@unix.portal.com Organization: Portal Communications Company -- 408/973-9111 (voice) 408/973-8091 (data) References: <230rju$4d3@anaxagoras.ils.nwu.edu> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1993 18:37:41 GMT In article <230rju$4d3@anaxagoras.ils.nwu.edu> dbora@ils.nwu.edu (Donald Bora) writes: > I have hooked up a NEC CD-ROM drive to my cube. I am trying to use >the CDPlayer program to play cd-audio off the CD-ROM drive and it >is not working. Any suggestions? I have no advice to offer, I'm afriad BUT - I have the NEC CD-ROM drive on my machine also, except this time it's an Intel box. This drive is quite capable of playing audio from <gulp> MS Windows. Hmm...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: brian@wucs1.wustl.edu (Brian) Subject: Re: .au to .snd Message-ID: <1993Jul28.163104.2181@wuecl.wustl.edu> Sender: usenet@wuecl.wustl.edu (News Administrator) Organization: Washington University, School of Engineering, St. Louis MO References: <234b7tINNr1u@network.ucsd.edu> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1993 16:31:04 GMT In article <234b7tINNr1u@network.ucsd.edu> ridgway@inls3.tmc.edu (Doug Ridgway) writes: > In article <CAszux.9pB@news.iastate.edu> sela@iastate.edu (Brian J Morrison) writes: > >Hello all, > > > >I was just wondering if some kind soul out there could email me on how > >to go about converting from .au to .snd (some program available somewhere > >or something). You help would be very much apreciated. Thanx in advance. > > > >Brian > >sela@iastate.edu > > Be warned that I know nothing about sound files, but recently, when I got > a .au file, I double-clicked on it and it brought up Edit. I wanted to play it, > so I renamed it to .snd, doubled-clicked and it played just fine. I still know > nothing about sound formats. Basically that is all you need to do to convert them. The .au format is the same as the CODEC .snd format. I also took the /NextDeveloper/Example program SoundEditor and modified it slightly to accept both .snd and .au files, so now I can just double-click on a .au file and play it (in instances where I don't have write access to the .au file, so I can't simply rename it). brian
From: daugher@cs.tamu.edu(Walter C. Daugherity) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Hardware Problem - Failed Test... Date: 28 Jul 1993 19:52:10 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX Distribution: world Message-ID: <236lda$5uo@tamsun.tamu.edu> References: <93196.111844HARRAPR@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> Keywords: heat In article <93196.111844HARRAPR@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> <HARRAPR@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> writes: | Now that there is no c.s.n.hardware, I guess this is the place to post | this... | | I have a NextDimension Cube with two hard drives and an optical drive, | internally, CD-ROM and floppy and Modem, externally. When I've been | using the cube for quite a while I sometimes get a system panic, after | which the NeXT won't restart - when I try to restart it says "failed | system test" and hangs totally. | | This has only happened in the last few weeks, when the weather has been | hot. One of the hard drives is a fujitsu, and they run quite hot. So | I suspect that the problem is overheating. After awhile the cube boots | normally. It all sort of fits. | | Has anybody else had similar problems, or am I missing something here? | | Any insights would be appreciated.... Yup. Happened to me when I was trying something out and had the back open. Moral: Keep that airflow going, e.g., clean the optical dust filter and don't set the cube on carpet. -- Walter C. Daugherity Internet, NeXTmail: daugher@cs.tamu.edu Texas A & M University uucp: uunet!cs.tamu.edu!daugher College Station, TX 77843-3112 BITNET: DAUGHER@TAMVENUS ---Not an official document of Texas A&M---
From: daugher@cs.tamu.edu(Walter C. Daugherity) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT shell window and VMS Edit problem Date: 28 Jul 1993 20:26:42 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX Distribution: world Message-ID: <236ne2$9hi@tamsun.tamu.edu> References: <234hj5$ha8@tamsun.tamu.edu> Keywords: VT100 In article <234hj5$ha8@tamsun.tamu.edu> h0l847a@tamsun.tamu.edu (Hoseong La) writes: | Hi! | I have some problem with the Edit in VMS over the modem connection from the | NeXTstation. Somehow from the shell window in NeXT the carriage return inside | the Edit in VMS behaves crazy. It does not move the curser to the beginning | of the next line, but puts at some other weirdest place you can imagine. | It just messes up the display, but after I do "ctrl-z" and "c" at the * | prompt, I can see in fact things are at the right place. It is fairly annoying | that I have to keep doing this to have the normal display. | It does not happen with the TPU editor, but it happens with EDIT editor. | Of course, no problem with using emacs on any UNIX machines under the | same connection. | Does anyone have any idea what is wrong and how I can fix it without ruining | the other nicely working editors? | Thanks in advance. | | hs Assuming you're using Terminal, go into the Info/Preferences menu panel and pull down "VT100 emulation." Then select "Perform strict VT100 emulation." Login to the VAX and type SET TERMINAL/VT100. That should do the trick. Good luck! -- Walter C. Daugherity Internet, NeXTmail: daugher@cs.tamu.edu Texas A & M University uucp: uunet!cs.tamu.edu!daugher College Station, TX 77843-3112 BITNET: DAUGHER@TAMVENUS ---Not an official document of Texas A&M---
From: richards@plains (Jolene Richardson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Foreign Language Instruction Message-ID: <CAw7xv.vHo@ns1.nodak.edu> Date: 28 Jul 93 21:05:55 GMT Article-I.D.: ns1.CAw7xv.vHo Sender: usenet@ns1.nodak.edu (Usenet login) Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network I am interested in other prrojects that are using the capabilities of the NeXT computer to teach foreign languages. What has been done? What has worked well? Is anything available in public domain to incorporate into a project? I'm working on a course for high school students that will transfer information over phone lines in a kind of correspondence course in Russian. If anyone else has worked on something similar I would much rather learn from their efforts than make a bunch of mistakes myself. Jolene Richardson richards@tag.sendit.nodak.edu
From: cplager@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Charles Plager) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Page up/down Date: 28 Jul 1993 21:23:19 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <236qo7$37s@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Summary: Page up & Page down keys Are there equivalent keys to Page up and Page down keys in any of the text programs (especially Terminal, etc.) Any help would be appreciated. Charles Plager p.s. Please send any response to: cplager@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Non-Next Mail)
From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: More bad experiences with NeXTWORLD. Message-ID: <69750@mimsy.umd.edu> Date: 28 Jul 93 20:49:44 GMT References: <1993Jul26.152415.17109@linus.mitre.org> <88613@ut-emx.uucp> Sender: news@mimsy.umd.edu Distribution: usa Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742 In article <88613@ut-emx.uucp> mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu writes: > What really gripes me about NeXTWorld, however, is that they are too big to > fit on a shelf and I have to stack them up out of the way. I might as well not > buy them at all if they're going to sit under a pile of other books. absolutely. not only are they awkward to fit on your own shelf, they are awkward for book stores to display - esp on crowded computer rag shelves. my local bookstore neatly solves the problem by placing NeXTWORLD in the very back with other magazines stacked directly in front and touching on the same shelf. that way the very top of NeXTWORLD peeks over, but otherwise the magazine and its cover are completely hidden. if you didnt know to look for it, you could browse the computer rags there for a year and never notice NeXTWORLD or see a cover photo of NEXTSTEP. its not like there are so many useful articles that they need the extra space. what's the rational for this stupid non standard paper size? I appreciate that NW may not be a big money maker _yet_, and really appreciate that they have finally gone monthly. they did change their subscription management service lately (dont know if it helped) but please get rid of the non standard paper size. its like a big reminder, that NeXT is different and ignores standards. NeXT changed, how about y'all. -- Alex Blakemore alex@cs.umd.edu NeXT mail accepted -------------------------------------------------------------- "Without an engaged and motivated human being at the keyboard, the computer is just another dumb box." William Raspberry
From: pdg@access.digex.net (Paul Guthrie) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: "mix" from i*link ? Date: 28 Jul 1993 19:31:29 -0400 Organization: The League of Crafty Hackers Message-ID: <23728h$qv6@access.digex.net> References: <23599d$qbb@belfort.daimi.aau.dk> Keywords: mix ilink i*link modem voice responce In article <23599d$qbb@belfort.daimi.aau.dk> jhj@daimi.aau.dk (Jens H|rup Jensen) writes: >I once read about "mix" from i*link, Germany. It should be a 2400 baud >modem, a group III fax and have capabilities of voice responce. >Where can I buy it, what is the price and is it compatible with the phonekit? In theory (according to their brochure given out at NWI), you can email them at info@ilink.de. I tried, requesting pricing, but never received any reply from them. Does anyone out there have a mixbox? What have your experiences been? A phone number for them is: +49 30 - 216 20 48 -- Paul Guthrie pdg@vorpal.digex.net NeXT Mail paul@nsacray.chi.il.us Encouraged!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: man -> rtf? Message-ID: <1993Jul28.173424.2375@yvax.byu.edu> From: john@kolob.byu.edu (John Peterson) Date: 28 Jul 93 17:34:23 -0700 References: <1993Jul27.225727.2359@yvax.byu.edu> In article <1993Jul27.225727.2359@yvax.byu.edu> writes: > I would like to be able to type a command from the command line that would > bring up the man page I desire without going through Librarian. I thought If > I could do a nroff -man | (an nroff to rtf translator) | Edit. (I know Edit > won't take this...but you get the idea.) I guess I could write a simple > translator myself, but Librarian seems to do it. (..unless those are > PostScript files it creates.) Any ideas? > > P.S. I don't really want to open it in Preview (I hate paging...). > The prize goes to Bob Cook at Stanford Linear Accelerator Center. When Edit is in developer mode (via info->preferences) there's a menu item Utilities->Manual that will bring up a man page by name in a scrollable window. (..or just Command-M when you're really lazy.) Thanks Bob! -- John Peterson -- Networked Computer Support -- Brigham Young University Internet: John_Peterson@byu.edu Phone: (801) 378-5007
From: hketola@agsm.ucla.edu (Heikki Ketola) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: "mix" from i*link ? Date: 29 Jul 1993 00:57:14 GMT Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office Message-ID: <23779a$6p2@news.mic.ucla.edu> References: <23599d$qbb@belfort.daimi.aau.dk> <23728h$qv6@access.digex.net> Keywords: mix ilink i*link modem voice responce pdg@access.digex.net (Paul Guthrie) writes: >In article <23599d$qbb@belfort.daimi.aau.dk> jhj@daimi.aau.dk (Jens H|rup Jensen) writes: >>I once read about "mix" from i*link, Germany. It should be a 2400 baud >>modem, a group III fax and have capabilities of voice responce. >>Where can I buy it, what is the price and is it compatible with the phonekit? >In theory (according to their brochure given out at NWI), you can email >them at info@ilink.de. I tried, requesting pricing, but never received >any reply from them. Does anyone out there have a mixbox? What >have your experiences been? >A phone number for them is: +49 30 - 216 20 48 I have had a mix for about a year now. I am using it for outgoing faxes and as an answering machine. I've had zero problems with outgoing faxes. I tried mix as incoming fax machine, and mix itself worked fine, but I just don't like reading faxes on the screen (which is not mix' fault, of course). The answering machine is pretty clever -you can do (at least) simple things like "play message ..push 1 if you call Carl, 2 for Jim, and 3 for Ulla", then depending on what the caller chooses you get more messages and/or you can record the caller's message, which is then emailed to the recipient" So you can have a mix as an answering machine on one continent, and get the messages mailed to you to another continent. I'll be in Finland for three weeks in August and I'm having my messages emailed to me there... Overall? I like mix a lot. If you have any specific questions about it, I'll be happy to answer them. Heikki Ketola hketola@sms-usa.com >-- >Paul Guthrie >pdg@vorpal.digex.net NeXT Mail >paul@nsacray.chi.il.us Encouraged!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: sela@iastate.edu (Brian J Morrison) Subject: .au to .snd--the answer Message-ID: <CAwI2x.FAs@news.iastate.edu> Sender: news@news.iastate.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1993 00:44:57 GMT Thanks to all who replied to my question of how to convert from .au files to the .snd files. Here is the answer for anybody else who might be interested. Sun OS 4.0.3 stored only raw mulaw files without any extensions. This format is obsolete; however to convert it to a NeXT snd format you can: sndconvert -o nextified.snd -f 1 -s 8012.8210513 -c 1 -r sun-sound Starting with Sun OS release 4.1 they adopted a file format like NeXT's: A comparison of <multimedia/audio_filehdr.h> on the Sun and <sound/soundstruct.h> on the NeXT shows the formats to be compatible-- just rename *.au to *.snd for the NeXT. Also there is a sound converter package called SOX that can be used to convert other sound files. That's about it. Thanks again for those that helped. Brian
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: mtzion!david (David J. Ferrero) Subject: new mail app? Message-ID: <1993Jul29.025237.7550@zion.com> Sender: david@zion.com Organization: Zion Software & Consulting Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1993 02:52:37 GMT I've heard that NeXT is working on a new mail app. Anyone heard if this will be distributed in the 3.2 upgrade? Thanks. David Ferrero david@zion.com
From: holmes@cs.umd.edu (Holmes S. Liao) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Re: Info needed on $299.00 deal for Nextstep x86 Message-ID: <69764@mimsy.umd.edu> Date: 29 Jul 93 02:25:43 GMT References: <1993Jul23.185836.1704@umr.edu> Sender: news@mimsy.umd.edu Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742 In article <1993Jul23.185836.1704@umr.edu> jybarnes@cs.umr.edu (Jym Barnes) writes: > 1) Is the price still $299.00? > 2) When does this offer expire? It'll remain so till end of July. > 3) Is Nextstep stable (basically bug free) on 80x86? There are only a few companies signed on with Next for NS, namely, DG, NEC, Dell, Epson, HP, etc. If you try to install NS for Intel on a no-name clone, do it at your own risk. > 4) How do I contact Next to order? > 5) What does $299.00 get me, X-Windows, TCPIP, NFS? > or what does it not get me? > 6) What is the price of a complete packages? I believe > it is referred to as the development package. > Call 1-800-try-next. The deal includes both a user and developer's version. >Please send any information to barnes@tweety.digsys.com. //hs
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) Subject: Re: Info needed on $299.00 deal for Nextstep x86 Message-ID: <1993Jul29.032112.16712@csus.edu> Sender: news@csus.edu Organization: San Francisco State University References: <1993Jul23.185836.1704@umr.edu> <69764@mimsy.umd.edu> Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1993 03:21:12 GMT In article <69764@mimsy.umd.edu> holmes@cs.umd.edu (Holmes S. Liao) writes: >It'll remain so till end of July. September. NeXT extended the deadline. (See the press release in comp.sys.next.announce.) -=EPS=-
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: man -> rtf? Date: 28 Jul 1993 22:45:38 -0400 Organization: Digital Fix Development Distribution: world Message-ID: <237dki$132@digifix.digifix.com> References: <1993Jul28.173424.2375@yvax.byu.edu> writes > In article <1993Jul27.225727.2359@yvax.byu.edu> writes: > > I would like to be able to type a command from the command line that would > > bring up the man page I desire without going through Librarian. I thought > The prize goes to Bob Cook at Stanford Linear Accelerator Center. When Edit > is in developer mode (via info->preferences) there's a menu item > Utilities->Manual that will bring up a man page by name in a scrollable > window. (..or just Command-M when you're really lazy.) Thanks Bob! Well, another should go to whoever put ManOpen on the cs.orst.edu archives! Its a NextInterface on a slick command-line utility that converts manpages into formated RTF... underlines, bold everything. I've already got the unix command line part hooked up with Tickle Services to make it man $page | cat2rtf | open Works like a charm! -- - Scott Anguish - sanguish@digifix.com (NextMail) next-announce@digifix.com (comp.sys.next.announce submissions)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: dkoski@noao.edu (David Koski) Subject: Graphics Tablets Message-ID: <1993Jul29.044720.20656@noao.edu> Sender: news@noao.edu Organization: National Optical Astronomy Observatories, Tucson, AZ, USA Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1993 04:47:20 GMT Does anyone have any experience hooking up a Wacom SD-510C graphics tablet to black hardware? I hooked mine up to serial port B just like InstallTablet said, but it is not recognized. The tablet itself appears to be working, the various lights flash as I move the stylus. Does anyone know the correct DIP switch settings? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, David Koski dkoski@noao.edu
From: Conrad_Geiger@NeXT.COM (Conrad Geiger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Millennium Software Announces Newsgrazer Pro for NEXTSTEP Date: 29 Jul 1993 01:13:04 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9307290535.AA08078@seawolf.next.com> FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE For more information, contact: Jayson Adams, CEO Scott Love, President Millennium Software Labs 1010 El Camino Real, Suite 300 Menlo Park, CA, 94025 Phone: (415) 321-3720 Fax: (415) 321-3650 Email: info@millennium.com Millennium Software Labs Announces Newsgrazer Pro(TM) for NEXTSTEP NEXTSTEP application to allow users to read Usenet and corporate news groups MENLO PARK, California, July 28, 1993 - Millennium Software Labs announced today that it will introduce Newsgrazer Pro, a software product for browsing articles and message threads from the numerous Usenet news groups. Usenet news groups have become a significant source of technology, event, and general interest information, and are growing in popularity among industry and business users. Newsgrazer Pro will provide both novice an expert users with a powerful interface for navigating this vast information resource. Jayson Adams, Millennium's CEO, said in an interview today, "We have received a lot of customer requests that Millennium release a net news reader for NEXTSTEP. Our expertise in developing information management applications makes us the ideal company for creating a commercial-quality product for this category. Newsgrazer Pro's introduction later this year will provide NEXTSTEP users with a simple and elegant application for accessing the Usenet." "Information processing and management is the most important application category of this decade, and Millennium is focused exclusively on providing NEXTSTEP solutions for this category. Newsgrazer Pro fits perfectly into our award-winning product line, which includes NoteBook and Engage! Desktop," said Scott Love, Millennium's President. Newsgrazer Pro for NEXTSTEP will have a suggested retail price of $199.95. The product will ship during the fourth quarter of 1993 in multiple architecture binary (MAB) format, capable of running on both Motorola- and Intel-based NEXTSTEP computers. Millennium Software Labs, Inc. is a privately-held start-up founded by Jayson Adams and Scott Love, former employees of NeXT Computer, Inc. Millennium develops and markets personal productivity software for NEXTSTEP-based computer systems. The company's mission is to develop state-of-the-art applications for information management. Product design and architecture are based entirely on NEXTSTEP, the most advanced object-oriented software technology available today. For more information about this press release, contact Jayson Adams, CEO, or Scott Love, President. Millennium Software Labs is located at 1010 El Camino Real, Suite 300, Menlo Park, CA, 94025. (415) 321-3720, (415) 321-3650 Fax, info@millennium.com. Keywords: computers, technology, software, Millennium Software Labs, Newsgrazer Pro, NeXT, NEXTSTEP, news reader, Usenet (C) 1993 Millennium Software Labs, Inc. All Rights Reserved. Newsgrazer Pro and Engage! Desktop are trademarks of Millennium Software Labs, Inc. NEXTSTEP is a registered trademark of NeXT Computer, Inc, in the U.S. and other countries.
From: balfanz@zorro.informatik.hu-berlin.de (Dirk Balfanz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Info about co-Xist? Date: 29 Jul 1993 05:52:39 GMT Organization: Humboldt University Berlin, Department of Computer Science Distribution: world Message-ID: <237oj7$dnv@hahn.informatik.hu-berlin.de> I'd like to know about the pricing of the various co-Xist packages for an educational site. I tried to contact Pencom at co-Xist_support@pencom.com but haven't got any reply so far. Anybody able to help? Thanks in advance. Dirk.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: bnocker@cosy.sbg.ac.at (Bernhard Nocker) Subject: Re: Question concerning CD-ROM and audio Message-ID: <CAwz7B.1ns@cosy.sbg.ac.at> Sender: news@cosy.sbg.ac.at Organization: University of Salzburg / Austria References: <CAw12u.Kq3@unix.portal.com> Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1993 06:54:46 GMT In article <CAw12u.Kq3@unix.portal.com> raf@shell.portal.com (Man Wei Tam) writes: > In article <230rju$4d3@anaxagoras.ils.nwu.edu> dbora@ils.nwu.edu (Donald Bora) writes: > > I have hooked up a NEC CD-ROM drive to my cube. I am trying to use > >the CDPlayer program to play cd-audio off the CD-ROM drive and it > >is not working. Any suggestions? > > I have no advice to offer, I'm afriad BUT - I have the NEC CD-ROM drive > on my machine also, except this time it's an Intel box. This drive > is quite capable of playing audio from <gulp> MS Windows. Most important is a set setuid bit of CDPlayer and an enabled PublicWindowServer! B.Nocker -- Bernhard Nocker University of Salzburg's Department of Computing Studies Jakob-Haringerstr. 5 5020 Salzburg Austria, Europe Tel: +43-662-8044/6316 bnocker@cosy.sbg.ac.at Fax: +43-662-8044/6316 or +43-662-8044/611
From: mcconnap@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Andy McConnell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Spliiting large files to DOS disk Date: 28 Jul 1993 18:31:54 GMT Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology Distribution: world Message-ID: <236gmq$mqe@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu> I need to split a large (5MB+) file onto several DOS formatted diskettes. The file then needs to be recombined on a DOS machine. (yeah, I know... but it's for a friend who has no net connection. He works on a SCO 386 (unix) and wants emacs badly. I have no access to SCO boxes, and he no access to NeXT's. Our plan: ftp->NeXT->DOS->SCO.) I am running NS 2.1 on a '040 slab. I am looking for a common (DOS?) archiver with source available so i can make it myself for the NeXT. arj is one example, but its creator hasn't released the source. If you know of any available programs to accomplish this, please let me know. Or if you can think of a better way, I'd love to hear it! Thanks in advance... -- Andy McConnell mcconnap@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu Fluid Science Learning Center Developer CS BS '93 Rose-Hulman Institute Of Technology "The beaurocratic mentality is the only constant in the universe."
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1993 19:32:06 EDT From: <CADER@auvm.american.edu> Message-ID: <93209.193206CADER@auvm.american.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.wanted,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Wanted 4 x 4 MB Simms for IIcx or NeXTSTATION (non turbo) I am looking for 4 4MB SIMMs for a NeXTStation or a Mac IIcx. I am interested in paying less than $100 per 4 MB SIMM. Thanks! ---Masud.
From: wrob@unixg.ubc.ca (Robert Wong) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Multi-floppy pkg files and the OD Date: 29 Jul 1993 10:21:16 GMT Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada Distribution: world Message-ID: <2388as$6db@skeena.ucs.ubc.ca> Hi, I'm trying to install Illustrator for the NeXT, but have no floppy drive. By a VERY tortuous method, I have managed to put the contents of the three Illustrator disks onto my OD. When what do I do next??? If I rename the OD to Adobe_IllustratorDisk1 and double-click on Adobe_Illustrator_3.0.1.pkg, the first package is installed. The problem is that Installer can't eject the OD and thus the install fails. Help! RWW. -- Robert W. Wong Jr. wrob@unixg.ubc.ca (ASCII only) Crasher of Automated Banking Machines and Keeper of the ZyXEL FAQ
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: emarinos@marcon.ka.sub.org (Evstathios Marinos) Subject: Re: "mix" from i*link ? Message-ID: <1993Jul29.090911.4974@marcon.ka.sub.org> Sender: emarinos@marcon.ka.sub.org (Evstathios Marinos) Organization: Marinos EDV - Consulting References: <23599d$qbb@belfort.daimi.aau.dk> Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1993 09:09:11 GMT In article <23599d$qbb@belfort.daimi.aau.dk> jhj@daimi.aau.dk (Jens H|rup Jensen) writes: \\ I once read about "mix" from i*link, Germany. It should be a 2400 baud \\ modem, a group III fax and have capabilities of voice responce. \\ \\ Where can I buy it, what is the price and is it compatible with the phonekit? \\ The information where You can buy mix can be get directly from i-link. They can give You a list of dealers, but You can order mix also at i-link. You can contact them under the following address: i-link Kommunikationssysteme GmbH Nollendorfstr. 11 - 12 10777 Berlin GERMANY voice : + 49 30 216 20 48 fax : + 49 30 215 82 74 e-mail: Piers_Walter@ilink.de Stati -- Marinos EDV - Consulting | NEXTSTEP Software and Consulting Services Evstathios Marinos | Phone : +49 721 37 71 78 Gartenstr. 2 | Fax : +49 721 37 71 79 76133 Karlsruhe (GERMANY) | E-Mail: emarinos@marcon.ka.sub.org
From: alex@sauron.gatech.edu (Alex Shillington) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Wanted 4x4 MB Simms for IIcx or NeXTSTATION(non turbo) Date: 29 Jul 1993 12:22:08 GMT Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology Distribution: na Message-ID: <238fdgINNm0j@mephisto.gatech.edu> References: <93209.193206CADER@auvm.american.edu> In article <93209.193206CADER@auvm.american.edu> <CADER@auvm.american.edu> writes: > I am looking for 4 4MB SIMMs for a NeXTStation or a Mac IIcx. I am > interested in paying less than $100 per 4 MB SIMM. Thanks! > !^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^! > > ---Masud. Good luck!!!! With the price of memory these days, you'll be lucky to find 1 MB SIMM's at that price! If you find someone selling 4 MB SIMM's for that price, please let me know. :>) -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Alex Shillington Georgia Institute of Technology - Network Services ----------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: bruce@TotSysSoft.com (Bruce Gingery) Subject: Re: Spliiting large files to DOS disk Message-ID: <1993Jul29.095021.1883@ToTSySSoft.com> Sender: news@ToTSySSoft.com Organization: Total System Software References: <236gmq$mqe@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu> Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1993 09:50:21 GMT In article <236gmq$mqe@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu> mcconnap@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Andy McConnell) writes: -> I need to split a large (5MB+) file onto several DOS -> formatted diskettes. The file then needs to be -> recombined on a DOS machine. Yoshi's LHA and older Lharc have both been ported to NeXT from the released source and so long as file naming conventions are followed, the output should be compatible. (has been compatible for me, so far, among MS-DOS, NeXT, C=64/128 and Amiga - on the Lharc version), HOWEVER there are quite a few ports around, some of which barf on large files -- either not properly wrapping the encoding tree, or just grunging the output -- I've never investigated fully. Tar and Compress (in .EXE form) are also available for MS-DOS, ported from a BSD4.2 implementation. As for CHUNKing it... inside Installer.app, there is a program called CHUNK which will split large files into smaller pieces. It will even allow for the first one to be smaller so that documentation may accompany the first chunk. This is present in 2.1, 3.0, and 3.1 NEXTSTEP distributions (and likely others). Assuming you renamed the files... EMACS.01 EMACS.02 EMACS.03... To reconstitute the parts, ``cat'' them together on a NeXT or COPY to a single output file on MS-DOS. Same ``cat'' solution works for split archives from ftp.uu.net... > cat part01 part02 part03 | zcat | tar -xvpf - Reconstitutes and extracts a split ``compressed'' file from the single pipeline. Bruce Gingery bruce@TotSysSoft.com Total System Software the makers of DFax for NEXTSTEP
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: scwg0600@ih-nxt01.cso.uiuc.edu (Steven C Weintz) Subject: Name Games (was Re: PowerPC upgrades for Cubes?) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1993 18:16:24 GMT Message-ID: <CAxurD.F9G@news.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <22vdh8INN522@network.ucsd.edu> Sender: usenet@news.cso.uiuc.edu (Net Noise owner) Keywords: NeXT Cubes, PowerPC, product names Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Some idle thoughts about a desired PPC upgrade board for Cubes, a recent thread in c.s.n.advocacy: Names? Well..."Turbo"..."Nitro"..."Thermo"? (as in -nuclear) We could call it the ThermoBoard, The BombBoard, or BoomCube... ..or perhaps we should stick to the speed metaphor; How about HyperCube? (as in hypersonic) - already copyrighted? More seriously, what are the chances of a sustained 3rd-party aftermarket for black hardware? If NeXT ever releases its specs, could we see things like a hardware-compression daughterboard for the ND's mystery expansion slot? (a VERY esoteric peice of hardware, I know, but let's think grandly) Steve Weintz NeXTMail: scwg0600@sumter.cso.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc From: shiva@vega.Stanford.EDU (Marcos Javier Polanco) Subject: Sybase + NS3.0 Message-ID: <1993Jul29.181741.20615@leland.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: DSO, Stanford University Date: Thu, 29 Jul 93 18:17:41 GMT Hello, My friend is about to upgrade to 3.0, but is worried about problems he may encounter running Sybase. I know there were some problems with the Administrator application; what were these? are there workarounds? any other caveats? Thanks. -marcos j. polanco -shiva@vega.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: rm@califhistsoc.org (Robert MacKimmie) Subject: webster weirdness! Message-ID: <CAwIoq.sx@califhistsoc.org> Keywords: webster weirdness! Sender: rm@califhistsoc.org (one) Organization: California Historical Society - Bringing the 19th Century, kicking and screaming, into the 21st! 415 567-1848 or fax 415 567-2394. Distribution: comp.sys.next.misc Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1993 00:58:02 GMT IN article ... writes > >What do YOU get when >I found that as very odd! >-- >Neil Greene >President, benchMark Developments, Inc. [NeXT VAR] >President, Kentucky NeXT User Group, Inc. >North American, TIFFany Distributor Not half as curious as the result when you search on "NeilGreene" in Webster. Keep up the good work! Robert MacKimmie Black Hardware with a SF Bay View! RM@CALIFHISTSOC.ORG
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: duca@binah.cc.brandeis.edu (Karen Duca, a.k.a. Rocky) Subject: drive for HP color inkjets Message-ID: <1993Jul29.190650.12505@news.cs.brandeis.edu> Sender: news@news.cs.brandeis.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Brandeis University Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1993 19:06:50 GMT Hi, I'm about to purchase an HP DeskWriter 550C or 1200C for a group of MACS. The question is, is there a driver available to allow me to hook the printer up to NeXT Color Turbo running 3.x? Thanx for your help, Karen duca@binah.cc.brandeis.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer From: sherwood@fenris.space.ualberta.ca (Sherwood Botsford) Subject: Re: NS 3.1 - how to find out where you are logged in?? Message-ID: <1993Jul29.183728.3105@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada References: <ntomczak.743588082@vega> Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1993 18:37:28 GMT N Tomczak-Jaegermann (ntomczak@vega.math.ualberta.ca) wrote: : After a switch to version 3.1 of OS I found that I cannot distinguish : anymore if a user is logged in directly on NeXT, or via some networked : terminal. This information is rather vital for some of my uses. : Up to now there was an environment variabiable "Workspace" which was : set in the first case, but not in the second. It looks like that it : vanished. Does anybody know if there is some other clever way to get : this information, or I have to write a special program which will : muck with an environment and which I will have to hook up with : 'dwrite Workspace LaunchPaths'? A script can do this: set WorkSpaceOwner = `who | awk '$2 == "console" {print $1}'` Then you can test if WorkSpaceOwner is equal to $user -- => Sherwood Botsford sherwood@space.ualberta.ca <= => University of Alberta Lab Manager, Space Physics Group <= => tel:403 492-3713 fax: 403 492-4256 <=
Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc,comp.sys.next.misc From: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) Subject: SLIP and PPP Message-ID: <1993Jul29.175022.522@weston.com> Sender: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1993 17:50:22 GMT I am interested to understand the difference between SLIP and PPP in terms of functionality. Alo, if you had an net of machines and one machine was connected via slip or PPP to a host, could all the machines on the net FTP via that one machine to the host, and further. All help is appreciated. Thanks -- Wes Spears <-------> jspears@weston.com (NeXTMail Welcome) The Weston Group 8524 Highway 6 North, 162, Houston, TX 77095
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.admin,comp.sys.next.hardware From: ttg242@newton.sps.mot.com (David Thornewill von Essen) Subject: Oracle keyboard resource file Message-ID: <1993Jul29.203742.29913@newsgate.sps.mot.com> Sender: news@newsgate.sps.mot.com Organization: Motorola ASIC Division Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1993 20:37:42 GMT Is anyone out there running Oracle forms V3.0 using the CoXist emulator on a Next. If so could you point me towards the right .r file. An email response is preferred, but I will scan these groups for 10 days or so. Many thanks, David TvE --- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- David Thornewill von Essen Sr. Systems Analyst Motorola ASIC Division I don't speak for Mot. Chandler, AZ-85224 fax: (602) 814-4451 email: ttg242@email.sps.mot.com tel: (602) 814-4395 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-
From: mgilula@tigger.rsmas.miami.edu (Marshall Gilula) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: I've had a GOOD experience with NeXTWORLD. Date: 29 Jul 1993 21:09:27 GMT Organization: RSMAS/University of Miami Distribution: usa Message-ID: <239ea7$r3k@umigw.miami.edu> References: <234cpl$6l0@steffi.demon.co.uk> In article <234cpl$6l0@steffi.demon.co.uk> robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) writes: > Actually I haven't but I haven't heard anybody who has. > > Anyone, anyone? > > Surprised NeXT let them on the Expo floor to be honest. > > -- > Real programmers don't use Email they communicate with people. Some time before the announcement of no-more-hardware from NeXT Computer, Inc., there was an announcement that NeXT Computer,Inc. had totally disconnected from NeXTWorld. I wonder if this has anything to do with what some of the users have been complaining about? -73- Marshall Gilula
From: tracy@athena.com (Tracy Kugelman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: I've had a GOOD experience with NeXTWORLD Date: 29 Jul 1993 21:18:53 GMT Organization: Athena Design, Inc. Message-ID: <239ert$3io@hermes.athena.com> Keywords: magazine,subscription In comp.sys.next.misc article <234cpl$6l0@steffi.demon.co.uk> you wrote: > Actually I haven't but I haven't heard anybody who has. > > Anyone, anyone? > > Surprised NeXT let them on the Expo floor to be honest. > > -- > Real programmers don't use Email they communicate with people. --Actually I have had very food experiences with NeXTWORLD. They have generated a lot of interest in Mesa via the reader response card. However, as an advertiser my subscriptions do arrive on time. I think that their move to a monthly will benefit the community by having more timely articles, although, fewer per month. I have a feeling that if those people who have had subscription problems contact NeXTWORLD they may actually get a good response from a bunch of journalists trying to get a magazine published. I guess I am biased. I like the magazine and the NEXTSTEP platform really needs NeXTWORLD to keep reporting on the technology and reviewing applications. ----------------------------------------------------------- Tracy Kugelman, Athena Design, one woman's opinion...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: mlbm@lanl.gov (Mark Martinez) Subject: Re: .au to .snd--the answer Message-ID: <1993Jul29.212614.27856@newshost.lanl.gov> Sender: news@newshost.lanl.gov Organization: Los Alamos National Lab References: <CAwI2x.FAs@news.iastate.edu> Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1993 21:26:14 GMT In article <CAwI2x.FAs@news.iastate.edu> sela@iastate.edu (Brian J Morrison) writes: > be compatible-- just rename *.au to *.snd for the NeXT. Is there a way to use dwrite to tell Workspace to play .au files using Sound.app? thanks mark
From: croehrig@cs.ubc.ca (Chris Roehrig) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Millennium Software Announces Newsgrazer Pro for NEXTSTEP Date: 29 Jul 1993 20:23:03 GMT Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada Message-ID: <239bj7$f1b@cs.ubc.ca> References: <9307290535.AA08078@seawolf.next.com> In article <9307290535.AA08078@seawolf.next.com> Conrad_Geiger@NeXT.COM (Conrad Geiger) writes: > Newsgrazer Pro for NEXTSTEP will have a suggested retail price of > $199.95. Ouch! Isn't this a bit steep for a news reader? Especially when what you're basically paying for is the sexy GUI? I love NewsGrazer, but I doubt if I would spend even $50 to use it instead of rn, trn or nn. Well... maybe $50 :-) They'd probably sell at least 4 times as many if they dropped their price below $50... (hint) -- Chris Roehrig (croehrig@cs.ubc.ca) Small Neural Systems Group Dept. of Computer Science, University of British Columbia, Canada
From: dpp@athena.com (David Pollak) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: I've had a GOOD experience with NeXTWORLD Date: 29 Jul 1993 22:00:31 GMT Organization: Athena Design, Inc. Message-ID: <239h9v$3rq@hermes.athena.com> References: <239ert$3io@hermes.athena.com> In comp.sys.next.misc article <234cpl$6l0@steffi.demon.co.uk> you wrote: > Actually I haven't but I haven't heard anybody who has. > > Anyone, anyone? > > Surprised NeXT let them on the Expo floor to be honest. > > -- > Real programmers don't use Email they communicate with people I'd like to address this thread by separating the content of the magazine from order fulfillment. NeXTWORLD is owned by IDG, a large company. I believe that IDG handles subscriptions and circulation via a central location that also does fulfillment for SunWorld, PCWorld, etc. The folks at NeXTWORLD have input, but not control over this process. Let's not flame them for something that they cannot control. In terms of content, I think NeXTWORLD is tops. Yes, I have from time to time disagreed with the content (for example, the latest review of Mesa.) But, the overall quality of NeXTWORLD magazine is up there with magazines like Byte. The content is good. The news is great. The layout is eye-catching (sometimes I like it, sometimes, I don't, but the layout is never boring.) Given the size of the staff and the size of the market, the content is phenomenal (take a look at the Amiga, Atari, and OS/2 journals that look like they were laid out by me or someone else with poor visual sense.) We are all stressing over the NeXT marketplace. Lots of us have lots of heart and soul invested in NeXT and we want it to succeed. The folks at NeXTWORLD magazine work very hard to deliver a very high quality product to our community. They are not perfect, but let's not nail them to the wall over subscription problems (call IDG about that) and let's offer constructive suggestions regarding the enhancement of product quality. Thanks. David
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: man -> rtf? Message-ID: <1993Jul29.202047.2382@yvax.byu.edu> From: john@kolob.byu.edu (John Peterson) Date: 29 Jul 93 20:20:47 -0700 References: <237dki$132@digifix.digifix.com> Distribution: world In article <237dki$132@digifix.digifix.com> writes: > Well, another should go to whoever put ManOpen on the cs.orst.edu > archives! > > Its a NextInterface on a slick command-line utility that converts > manpages into formated RTF... underlines, bold everything. > > I've already got the unix command line part hooked up with Tickle > Services to make it man $page | cat2rtf | open > > Works like a charm! > Thanks should go to Harald Schlangmann from Germany who put that up there for me. -- John Peterson -- Networked Computer Support -- Brigham Young University Internet: John_Peterson@byu.edu Phone: (801) 378-5007
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: coconut@crash.cts.com (Brian Dear) Subject: Re: I've had a GOOD experience with NeXTWORLD. Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA Distribution: usa Date: 29 Jul 93 20:21:10 PDT Message-ID: <1993Jul29.202110.25015@crash> References: <239ea7$r3k@umigw.miami.edu> Marshall Gilula (mgilula@tigger.rsmas.miami.edu) wrote: : Some time before the announcement of no-more-hardware : from NeXT Computer, Inc., there was an announcement that NeXT : Computer,Inc. had totally disconnected from NeXTWorld. I wonder if this : has anything to do with what some of the users have been complaining : about? : -73- : Marshall Gilula Nope. I've had bad experience with NeXTWORLD magazine since issue number one. Absolutely incredible that they've never gotten their act together, after all these years! My experience with NeXTWORLD magazine is not unlike other computer magazines. It's pretty commonplace. I guess computer magazines simply don't care about satisfied customers/readers. If anyone should complain the loudest, it should be the advertisers, 'cuz they're the ones who are being ripped off the most.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: coconut@crash.cts.com (Brian Dear) Subject: Re: I've had a GOOD experience with NeXTWORLD Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA Date: 29 Jul 93 20:37:20 PDT Message-ID: <1993Jul29.203720.25164@crash> References: <239h9v$3rq@hermes.athena.com> David Pollak (dpp@athena.com) wrote: : In comp.sys.next.misc article <234cpl$6l0@steffi.demon.co.uk> you wrote: : > Actually I haven't but I haven't heard anybody who has. : > : > Anyone, anyone? : > : > Surprised NeXT let them on the Expo floor to be honest. : > : > -- : > Real programmers don't use Email they communicate with people : : I'd like to address this thread by separating the content of the magazine from : order fulfillment. : : NeXTWORLD is owned by IDG, a large company. I believe that IDG handles : subscriptions and circulation via a central location that also does fulfillment : for SunWorld, PCWorld, etc. The folks at NeXTWORLD have input, but not control : over this process. Let's not flame them for something that they cannot : control. : : In terms of content, I think NeXTWORLD is tops. Yes, I have from time to time : disagreed with the content (for example, the latest review of Mesa.) But, the : overall quality of NeXTWORLD magazine is up there with magazines like Byte. : The content is good. The news is great. The layout is eye-catching (sometimes : I like it, sometimes, I don't, but the layout is never boring.) Given the size : of the staff and the size of the market, the content is phenomenal (take a look : at the Amiga, Atari, and OS/2 journals that look like they were laid out by me : or someone else with poor visual sense.) : : We are all stressing over the NeXT marketplace. Lots of us have lots of heart : and soul invested in NeXT and we want it to succeed. The folks at NeXTWORLD : magazine work very hard to deliver a very high quality product to our : community. They are not perfect, but let's not nail them to the wall over : subscription problems (call IDG about that) and let's offer constructive : suggestions regarding the enhancement of product quality. : : Thanks. : : David :------------------------------------------------------------------- Fine and dandy, but not good enough in my humble opinion. The editorial and publishing staff should be FIGHTING, screaming, battling, and clawing for every damn customer and advertiser they can find. They should be proud enough of their publication to FIRE the fulfillment company and get another. Or DO IT THEMSELVES if competence does not exist in the magazine fulfillment industry. This is WAR, fight fight fight! If I were editor of NeXTWORLD I would be ASHAMED at the shoddy treatment given to readers, and indirectly to advertisers. I'd fight IDG until customers were so HAPPY and SATISFIED that NeXTWORLD was proudly displayed in the FRONT of the magazine rack, rather than BEHIND every blasted PC-bozo magazine. NeXTWORLD is in many way's NeXT's main evangelical tool, and it is wasting away unnoticed both in newsstands and in warehouses (or wherever undelivered magazines wind up). The content of NeXTWORLD is usually WONDERFUL. But you got to DELIVER that content to the customer. ON TIME. EVERY TIME. Otherwise it's just so much paper and ink. -- brian dear coconut computing, inc.
From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Millennium Software Announces Newsgrazer Pro for NEXTSTEP Date: 30 Jul 1993 07:04:32 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <23ah60$nv4@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <9307290535.AA08078@seawolf.next.com> <239bj7$f1b@cs.ubc.ca> Originator: jbn35564@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu I think it's around $190 too steep. This seems to me to be another NS app where someone wants big money for doing what other major GUI environments have (and in some cases even NS has) for free. Another app of this kind that shoots to my mind is LoadEye. Hopefully NG Pro will be some incredibly powerful newsreader that'll make nn, rn and trn look lame, but I doubt it. I think the best future for this app is shareware. Charge a reasonable rate like Scott Hess and Don Yacktman do for their work and don't insult the customers with such an outrageously priced app. It's not as if there aren't apps that NS needs that are well worth good money. Two for example: a low-cost and reliable word processor that is competitive with MS Word (since NS continues to lose customers to MS Word/Mac, why not make something that does what it does for NS in a NS-compliant fashion and can load/save MS Word and WordPerfect files?) and a small database akin to those you see on the Mac in Microsoft Works and Beagle Bros. apps. Not everyone can afford nor needs Oracle or Sybase, but loading existing data from the popular Mac apps I just named is important. If you need an app to charge $200 for, a newsreader is not it.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: crao@sangra.ncst.ernet.in (Mr.Sanjay R.Rao) Subject: Re: request sites for nntp access to comp.sys.next.* Message-ID: <CAyoIw.3DB@shakti.ncst.ernet.in> Followup-To: ncst.courses.cnet Summary: demo Sender: crao Organization: National Centre for Software Technology, Bombay, India. References: <231fdm$1m6@digifix.digifix.com> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1993 04:59:19 GMT please include this article. it is just a demo. ignore it. thanks for bearing with me. regards. sanjay.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: vhs@qb.rhein-main.de (Volker Herminghaus-Shirai) Subject: Re: "mix" from i*link ? Date: Thu, 29 Jul 93 07:14:42 GMT Message-ID: <1993Jul29.071442.26478@qb.rhein-main.de> References: <23599d$qbb@belfort.daimi.aau.dk> Sender: vhs@qb.rhein-main.de (Volker Herminghaus-Shirai) In article <23599d$qbb@belfort.daimi.aau.dk> jhj@daimi.aau.dk (Jens H|rup Jensen) writes: > I once read about "mix" from i*link, Germany. It should be a 2400 baud > modem, a group III fax and have capabilities of voice responce. > > Where can I buy it, what is the price and is it compatible with the phonekit? Try mailing info@ilink.de. That used to be their address. -- Volker Herminghaus-Shirai (vhs@qb.rhein-main.de) Computer industry: Industry in which the number of units sold of any given product is inversely proportional to its technical excellence. See also: MS-DOS, MS-Windows, PC, X, QWERTY, 80x86, TrueType
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: vhs@qb.rhein-main.de (Volker Herminghaus-Shirai) Subject: Re: NextStep's MACH - How good is it? Date: Thu, 29 Jul 93 22:25:36 GMT Message-ID: <1993Jul29.222536.27969@qb.rhein-main.de> References: <1993Jul28.153919.24606@coplex.coplex.com> Sender: vhs@qb.rhein-main.de (Volker Herminghaus-Shirai) In article <1993Jul28.153919.24606@coplex.coplex.com> dannie@coplex.coplex.com (Dannie Gregoire) writes: > Hi, I have a couple of questions concerning NextStep.... > > I have read a great deal about NextStep's GUI and developer environments. > However, I have not heard much about the operating system underneath it > all....MACH. > > 1) How close is MACH to other flavor's of unix? The UNIX layer in the mach used in NeXTSTEP emulates 4.3BSD almost to perfection. There are one or two calls (I think sbrk() is one) that are not supported, which stem from the stone ages and are simply unnecessary (they optimize memory usage, which is needless due to mach's modern memory management - isn't that a nice alliteration?). > 2) Does NextStep support multi-port serial cards on the pc? I don't know. If it doesn't, you can use ethernet terminal concentrators. They work transparently with practically everything, including NS. > 3) Is it possible to run NextStep's mach without booting into the GUI? Yes. On the workstation's screen, log in as "console" and you'll get a nice large static vt100 window and nothing else. No mouse etc. It still looks nice, though :-). On a terminal, you just log in as you would on an other UNIX box. BTW, you can also run X if you want, both locally and remote. > Our company is considering using NextStep as a development platform for > in-house applications. However, we do not have the resources to replace > all of our existing text based terminals with PC's (capable of running > NextStep) all at once. We would like to be able to develop both GUI and > text based applications under NextStep, using PC's (running NextStep) > as department level unix boxes. This would allow us to make the transition > from a centralized/text based environment to a distributed GUI environment, > using a single operating system. However, all of this depends very heavily > upon how robust NextStep's unix is. Any help in this area is greatly > appreciated. IMHO, NeXT's UNIX is more stable than most others I've seen, and I've seen many. Those old kernels have grown so complex that nobody really groks their memory management/buffer cache/paging scheme interactions any more, leading to many annoying bugs. Mach has had a clean start. There are some reported errors with the supplied tools, e.g. telnetd and, till the end of the month, the serial driver. But most of these you can fix by installing the appropriate GNU tools. My cube has been running 24 hours a day, 350 days a year for three years now, and it did not even once get so stuck that I couldn't at least log in from a terminal and revive/reboot the machine. The SS2 I use at work crashed three times in two months so badly that not even L1-A (the CTRL/ALT/DEL of the Sun) could revive it, nor could I log in on a terminal. It was just plain stuck. (there was a bug in their X/NeWS server). As I like to put it: If I didn't already own a NeXT I would gladly pay full price for a used one, or full price for NS/FIP plus PC. In fact I would probably pay a lot more. Get it. -- Volker Herminghaus-Shirai (vhs@qb.rhein-main.de) Computer industry: Industry in which the number of units sold of any given product is inversely proportional to its technical excellence. See also: MS-DOS, MS-Windows, PC, X, QWERTY, 80x86, TrueType
From: hketola@agsm.ucla.edu (Heikki Ketola) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Webster Funnies Date: 30 Jul 1993 08:00:43 GMT Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office Message-ID: <23akfb$2pj@news.mic.ucla.edu> Vanilla ice cream doesn't taste the same to me after I checked out the root word for "vanilla" in Webster... I don't get it -vanilla does not taste anything like anchovy. Heikki hketola@sms-usa.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) Subject: Re: Wanted 4x4 MB Simms for IIcx or NeXTSTATION(non turbo) Message-ID: <CAyxrA.Iwo@utstat.toronto.edu> Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics References: <93209.193206CADER@auvm.american.edu> <238fdgINNm0j@mephisto.gatech.edu> Distribution: na Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1993 08:18:46 GMT In article <238fdgINNm0j@mephisto.gatech.edu> alex@sauron.gatech.edu (Alex Shillington) writes: [ ] > >Good luck!!!! With the price of memory these days, you'll be lucky >to find 1 MB SIMM's at that price! If you find someone selling >4 MB SIMM's for that price, please let me know. :>) The current pricing of memory is a blip that will last a few weeks. As usual memory channels are taking every advantage of the panic and misinformation that has followed the Tokyu factory which produced 40% of the world's supply of a certain compund used in the manufacturing of semiconductors. There are other companies out there producing the resin and they have been operating at far less than capacity. In a few weeks the supply will ease up, memory will return to its downward price trend and the sleaze types will have had a few weeks of profiting on the basis of fear. The $100 for 4 megs was not an unreasonable offer. One would hope that he doesn't fall for the scare tactics. It's interesting that a call to Dell for a quote for a system yielded a yawn when asked about memory (which was priced the same as a few weeks ago). -- Philip McDunnough University of Toronto philip@utstat.toronto.edu [Where sheep may safely graze...]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: m@BlueRose.com (M Carling) Subject: Re: new mail app? Message-ID: <1993Jul29.235245.461@BlueRose.com> Sender: m@BlueRose.com Organization: Blue Rose Systems, Inc. References: <1993Jul29.025237.7550@zion.com> Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1993 23:52:45 GMT In article <1993Jul29.025237.7550@zion.com> mtzion!david (David J. Ferrero) writes: > I've heard that NeXT is working on a new mail app. > > Anyone heard if this will be distributed in the 3.2 upgrade? There is no new mail app in 3.2. M Carling President, Bay Area NeXT Group
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) Subject: Partner and AFP Volumes ( again) Message-ID: <CAyz2A.JI1@utstat.toronto.edu> Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1993 08:46:58 GMT Has anyone succefully mounted an AFP ( Appleshare/System 7/...) Mac volume using IPT's Partner? If so, how did you do it? Thank's, -- Philip McDunnough University of Toronto philip@utstat.toronto.edu [Where sheep may safely graze...]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: lloyd@world.std.com (Chris Lloyd) Subject: Re: new mail app? Message-ID: <CAyzJB.54K@world.std.com> Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA References: <1993Jul29.025237.7550@zion.com> <1993Jul29.235245.461@BlueRose.com> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1993 08:57:10 GMT In article <1993Jul29.235245.461@BlueRose.com> m@BlueRose.com (M Carling) writes: >In article <1993Jul29.025237.7550@zion.com> mtzion!david (David J. >Ferrero) writes: >> I've heard that NeXT is working on a new mail app. >> >> Anyone heard if this will be distributed in the 3.2 upgrade? >There is no new mail app in 3.2. Are there any third party developers working on an alternative mail app? shrug, -- :: Christopher Lloyd :: Yrrid Incorporated :: lloyd@world.std.com :: :: LOUDER...LOUDER... ::
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: kent@infoserv.com Subject: Re: Can a Mac/PC use NeXT's Color Monitor? Message-ID: <CAv110.6tI@infoserv.com> Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard) Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting References: <1993Jul23.233546.2770@newsgate.sps.mot.com> Distribution: na Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1993 05:39:00 GMT In article <1993Jul23.233546.2770@newsgate.sps.mot.com> charles@raiders.sps.mot.com (Charles Chan) writes: #Hi, there, # #I would like to know if there is a way for #My Mac/PC to use NeXT's color monitor. # I have seen the NeXT color monitor on a Mac. It requires one of the better video cards there are several tha twork but I forget which ones they are. You will also need to adjust the monitor for the picture to be centered correctly. Also the cable on a Mac has blue and red switched. A PC won't work w/out a lot of hoop jumping. Kent -- /* K.L. Shephard Consulting is my company. Infoserv only delivers my mail. */ /* Please direct mail to kent@infoserv.com other adresses may not work. */
From: fischedj@ NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (David J. Fischer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Need suggestions for NS/FIP software (LONG) Date: 29 Jul 1993 16:26:10 GMT Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology Message-ID: <238tn2$a4@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu> Salutations, I have recently ordered a Gateway computer on which to run NS/FIP. While waiting for it to arrive, I am looking for NS/FIP software to purchase or grab from an archive. I hope to find software with student (edu) prices of < $200. I love edu prices < $50 and shareware/freeware from the net is even better. In my search, I have been testing demo software on the ThirdParty CDROM on a 3.1 NeXT machine and I'll give some comments on what I have seen. I would be appreciate if anyone could suggest some software along these lines: Spreadsheet: I am looking for a Quattro Pro like app. Improv utterly fails by not providing scatter plots. Appsoft's's Solution fails by not providing useful scatter plotting nor fitting functions. Athena Design's Mesa fails by not providing fitting functions, and the interface is still unpolished (as compared to Solution). Also, Solution and Mesa are sluggish when navigating by keyboard. If nothing presents itself I will use Quattro Pro in DOS (ick). Mathematics: I have used MAPLE quite a lot, and Mathematica a small bit. I will get Mathematica if it has a reasonable price ($995 isn't reasonable; $200 is), though I prefer MAPLE. Any other tools out there? Also, if I can't find a spreadsheet with solid data analysis functions I will need another app to do that. MAPLE and Mathematica could do that. Is there any other sort of tool for data analysis? If nothing presents itself I will use MAPLE in DOS (ycuk) Word Processor: Edit meets ~80% of my needs. What I need beyond that is something with which to write scientific papers. This usually requires tiff/eps importing, a powerful equation editor, and page layout controls for making presentation overheads. FrameMaker (on 2.1 NeXTs) has met that need extremely well, but rumor is that Frame won't be ported to NS/FIP. Any suggestions? If nothing presents itself I will use MS-Word for Windows in Windows (ugh). Image Editing: This would be a toy for me. I have played with Appsoft's Image and Pinnacle's WetPaint. Both seem robust and intuitive. What's best? (Or is there something better?) I have also toyed with Appsoft's Perspective. Neat. If it is cheap enough I would also buy it to play around with. Drawing: Draw has met my needs well in the past for making simple charts of laboratory setups for school-work/research. I am now considering buying a more robust package. LightHouse Design's Diagram is powerful, but it seems more for organizational charting than drawing. Could I make an optics palette (that's what I study) with Laser, Lens, and Mirror objects? What about Appsoft's Draw -- is it a stable, powerful package? Telecommunications: Is there is anything to utilize a modem? This doesn't convcern me much now, but I know others who want this support as soon as they get NS/FIP installed. I have heard of SLiPCommander (sp?), but beyond that I am completely ignorant on the topic. Misc: I am always open to new and nifty apps, but the general productivity apps I have seen (Engage!, DarkForest, NoteBook, TaskMaster) don't serve any useful purpose for me. (If I had them, I'd use them. Without them I cope just fine) Pinnacle's VirtSpace is an exception. On a 800x600 NS/FIP display, I think this will be immensely useful. Are there any other "Gotta have it" apps out there? Games: If I want games, I'll probably buy a SNES, or King's Quest type games for DOS. But hey, maybe there is something worthwhile on the NeXT. Don't say Rocks!; $50 for Asteroids is too much. Thanks for your suggestions. I will post a summary. -- David J. Fischer : fischedj@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu "What's more important, the plays of Shakespeare or the quill he used to write them down? If he'd used a mission critical custom quill with built-in spell checker, would his plays have been any better? " -- Dave Griffiths (in response to a NeXT advocate on c.s.n.m)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: tlm@tantalus.scl.ameslab.gov (Dr. T. L. Marchioro II) Subject: Re: new mail app? Message-ID: <CAzFHD.JDI@news.iastate.edu> Sender: news@news.iastate.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA References: <CAyzJB.54K@world.std.com> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1993 14:41:36 GMT Chris Lloyd writes []In article <1993Jul29.235245.461@BlueRose.com> m@BlueRose.com (M Carling) writes: []>In article <1993Jul29.025237.7550@zion.com> mtzion!david (David J. []>Ferrero) writes: []>> I've heard that NeXT is working on a new mail app. []>> []>> Anyone heard if this will be distributed in the 3.2 upgrade? []>There is no new mail app in 3.2. [] [] Are there any third party developers working on an alternative mail app? [] []shrug, Xexos Limited is working on a complete replacement for NeXTmail which supports Mime and has several other nice new features. (I've seen it in action, so not vaporware for me, but still is for you :) Supposed to go out for beta testing quite soon. Hope this is Helpful --- Tom -- Dr. Thomas L. Marchioro II Two-wheeled theoretical physicist Center for Physical and Computational Mathematics 515-294-6629 Ames Laboratory 515-233-1216 (home) Ames, Iowa 50011 tlm@iastate.edu
From: ringger@cs.rochester.edu (Eric Ringger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: pr(1) under NeXTSTEP 3.0 Message-ID: <RINGGER.93Jul27164145@artery.cs.rochester.edu> Date: 27 Jul 93 20:41:45 GMT Sender: ringger@cs.rochester.edu (Eric Ringger) Distribution: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Rochester Greetings! I have been unable to get pr(1) to function as it should under NS3.0 on my NeXTstation. It doesn't handle multiple columns or parallel columns correctly. I can provide sample output if there is any question about what it is doing. Has anyone seen misbehavior by pr(1) before? Please send responses via e-mail, since I'm not always available to read the newsgroups. Thanks, --Eric -- Eric K. Ringger ringger@cs.rochester.edu Dept. of Computer Science ------- NeXT-Mail Welcome University of Rochester Phone: (716) 275-0922 Rochester NY 14627-0226 FAX: (716) 461-2018
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc From: chris@socrates.ads.com (Chris Smith) Subject: [Q] Cursor Exploder Program? Message-ID: <1993Jul30.153606.9561@ads.com> Sender: usenet@ads.com (USENET News) Organization: Advanced Decision Systems, Mtn. View, CA (415) 960-7300 Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1993 15:36:06 GMT I am a visually impaired user of NeXT computers, which can be a real challenge (black text on white backgrounds, for example). One of the problems I'm facing right now is that I frequently lose the cursor on the screen; I have to fling the mouse every which way until I can see the bloody pointer again. On the Macintoshes there are a couple of programs which, among other features, offer what is sometimes referred to as a cursor exploding feature. If the user presses a certain key or key combination, a one- or two-inch circle flashes for a second or so around the cursor. Comes in quite handy on large displays! Is there a program available that offers such a feature? If not, how difficult would it be to write one??? Thanks VERY much! ---------------------------------------------------- Christopher A. Smith Consultant, Booz-Allen & Hamilton Inc. Internet: chris@socrates.ads.com
From: jgshir@athena.mit.edu (John G Shirlaw) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Discussion on NeXTStep in Comp.sys.hp Date: 30 Jul 1993 15:50:30 GMT Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology Distribution: world Message-ID: <23bg06$p3d@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Hi, Thought you would like to know that comp.sys.hp are currently discussing splitting the group up into a set of sub groups some what similar to those used by other groups like the next group. I am currently trying to get a comp.sys.hp.nextstep added to that list, and as such any support for this would be helpful, or if you feel that it should be handled under the comp.sys.next then you should make your feeling known in the hp group. hope this is interesting to you john.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: ab@nova.cc.purdue.edu (Allen B) Subject: Re: new mail app? Message-ID: <CAzHw0.K15@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> Sender: news@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (USENET News) Organization: Purdue University References: <1993Jul29.025237.7550@zion.com> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1993 15:33:35 GMT You know what I'd like in a new Mail.app? I'd like it if it stored mail in a format compatible with mh instead of Mail. Then I'd be more likely to read my mail from home and other remote situations. ab
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux,comp.windows.x,comp.sys.next.misc From: chr@ztivax.zfe.siemens.de (Christian Veith) Subject: Problems with xmodmap on Mac and NeXT Message-ID: <CAzJ4t.KDB@ztivax.zfe.siemens.de> Organization: Siemens AG Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1993 16:00:29 GMT Hi, I have a problem with keyboard configurations, xmodmap, etc. that for the life of me I can't figure out. My problem is that we want to use our Mac (IIci, AUX3.0) and NeXT cube as an X Terminal (among other things). For these machines, I can't generate the correct keyboard mapping. In the course of things I became quite familiar with xmodmap and xev, but I don't quite get how the modifier keys are supposed to work. Example (NeXT): The keyboard relies heavily on Alt-something keystrokes, e.g. "1" produces "1", Shift-1 produces "!", and Alt-1 produces a "~". Looking at the keyboard events with xev, the Shift modifier works as expected, but the Meta and Alt modifier (mod1 and mod2) do not generate new keysyms at all, e.g. Alt-1 just generates an Alt-L event and a "1" event. That means, I can generate the correct mapping for unmodified keys and Shift-modified keys (complete with German umlauts and all that), but the rest beats me. On the Mac, the same thing: As long as I run MacX and the clients on the local machine, fine, everything works, Shift-7 produces a "/", Option-7 a "|", and Shift-Option-7 a "\". The usual operation, however, is to start up MacX, and then to connect to a Sun, and to start up the window manager etc. remotely. In that case, same problem as on the NeXT: The modifiers do not work as I expected. I spent quite some time to configure the modifiers and keysyms, but I've been getting nowhere. Am I just too dumb? Somebody help me out, please. Are there any written instructions I can ftp from somewhere (I mean besides the xmodmap manpage)? Books? People who've gone through this before? chr --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Christian Veith | chr@zfe.siemens.de Siemens AG, Munich, Germany | +49-89-636-44519 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: I've had a GOOD experience with NeXTWORLD. Date: 28 Jul 1993 00:12:53 +0100 Organization: me organized? That's a joke! Distribution: usa Message-ID: <234cpl$6l0@steffi.demon.co.uk> References: <1993Jul26.152415.17109@linus.mitre.org> <1993Jul27.200732.898@charon.muc.de> Actually I haven't but I haven't heard anybody who has. Anyone, anyone? Surprised NeXT let them on the Expo floor to be honest. -- Real programmers don't use Email they communicate with people.
From: zeta@tcscs.com (Gregory Youngblood) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Updated information for TCS from vendors list Message-ID: <2R5H8B2w165w@tcscs.com> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 93 09:03:12 CDT Organization: TCS Consulting Services I'm posting this followup to the original to update everyone's information about TCS. TCS has moved and undergone a name change. We are now TCS Computer Systems. The new information is below in the same format of the original post. In case someone missed it I'm including the rest of the list as well. Company : TCS Computer Systems Address : 25799B Madrone Drive; Willits, CA 95490 Phone : (707) 489-7500 Contact : Gregory Youngblood email : info@tcscs.com Sorry for the confusion. And, here's the rest of the list...much thanks to Gregory Baratoff for compiling this list and posting for the rest of us. Company : Advance2000 Inc Address : Buffalo, NY Phone : 1-800-9ADVANCE Contact : Doug or Brian Company : Alpine Computing Address : Salt Lake City, UT Phone : (801) 268-8877 Contact : Kris Magnusson Email : yf5990@u.cc.utah.edu (Kris' email) Company : Continental Computer Systems Address : Hartford, CT Phone : 1-800-776-8649 Contact : Jim Pinto (sales, ext. 133) Joe Bacher (NS support, ext. 137) Company : GEC computers Address : Phone : 1-800-486-1500 Contact : Jeannie Company : TCS Computer Systems Address : 25799B Madrone Drive; Willits, CA 95490 Phone : (707) 489-7500 Contact : Gregory Youngblood email : info@tcscs.com Company : Tri-star Computers Address : Chandler, AZ Phone : (602) 961-3401 Contact : Bob Padua (ext. 4459) (call 1pm - 5pm) Company : Workstation 2000 Address : Fallbrook, CA Phone : (619) 723-4827 Fax : (619) 723-4392 Contact : Tim Finn email : tfinn@cerf.net (might not work anymore) Company : Gateway 2000 Phone : 1-800-846-2042 Contact : Andy Edlund (ext. 5401) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- | TCS Computer Systems | AT&T Easy Reach Number | 25799B Madrone Drive | | (707)489-7500 | 0-700-TCS-0000 | Willits, CA 95490 | |---------------------------------------------------------------------------| | Personal: zeta@tcscs.com | Information: info@tcscs.com | |---------------------------------------------------------------------------| | Specializing in high performance 486 computer systems for NeXTSTEP! | -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: foster@seismo.CSS.GOV (Glen Foster) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: new mail app? Date: 30 Jul 1993 18:09:32 GMT Organization: Center for Seismic Studies, Arlington, VA Message-ID: <23bo4s$5ft@seismo.CSS.GOV> References: <CAyzJB.54K@world.std.com> <CAzFHD.JDI@news.iastate.edu> NeXT said about three years ago that they are not going to re-do Mail.app until NS 4.0. This was in response to strong requests for changes by one of their early adopters (DARPA). -- Glen Foster <foster@css.gov>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: clr@next_c.pai.com (Charles Robinson) Subject: WYSIWYG PostScript (what the hey?) Message-ID: <1993Jul30.174640.24107@nntpxfer.psi.com> Sender: news@nntpxfer.psi.com Organization: Performance Systems Int'l Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1993 17:46:40 GMT For fun and games try setting the enclosed on your printer. Results to date: Preview under Version 3.0 shows text body ("Cowen/Enterpirse Fund" etc.) Preview under Version 3.1 shows text Printing under Version 3.0 prints text Printing under Version 3.1 does not print text Printing on DEC Claser does not print text Printing on HP Laser Jet 4M does not print text Printing using PC Ultrascript prints text (Both versions we have) Printing using PC RIPS board prints text. Email your results and I'll see if there is a pattern. BTW: The postscript graphs were produced by a local program which picks up a DOS WordPerfect 5.1 postscript output file and uses that as an import for the text body. The only editing of the WP input file was to delete all comment lines and the showpage. I guess I am tripping up on some type of ambiguity in Postscript implementations but I am confused. I'd at least think that Previewer's RIP and the NeXT's printer RIP would be the same!!! What happened was that this is a "production job" that was worked last quarter but doesn't work this quarter. The only difference? I upgraded my NeXT to 3.1 on my color station. -- Charles Robinson Datec Inc. 333 W. 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